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Good evening. It is 5:45,

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so I will call to order the August 6th,

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2026 regular meeting of the

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Hendersonville City Council. We begin

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our meetings with a silent invocation

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for people to pray or meditate as they

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choose, followed by the pledge of

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allegiance. You'll rise, please.

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You'll join me in the pledge. I pledge

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allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> Thank you.

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Okay, we have uh public comment. We have

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two people signed up for public comment

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this evening. Is there anyone online

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seeking recognition for public comment?

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>> No, Madame Mayor.

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» No, Madame Mayor.

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>> Okay. Um so if we could limit the

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» Okay. Um so if we could limit the

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um time to about no more than five

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minutes since there are only two of you

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and we'll ask you to come to the

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microphone give your name and your

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address for the clerk's record. First

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Eva Richie

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Good evening.

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My name is Eva Richie. I live at 1928

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Bvard Road in Henderson County.

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In 1968, the National Park Service

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became the stewards of the Carl Sandberg

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home. But by virtue of its location in

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our community, we also became the

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stewards of the Carl Sandberg home of

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this special place. Over the years, the

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home and property has become a valuable

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cultural and economic gift to us.

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During the last 50 years, we have been

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good stewards of this gift. But the

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question now is, are we being good

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stewards of this gift? Now,

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in 2022, due to weather, not Helen, and

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age, the front lake dam built in the

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1850s failed. In 2024, before Hurricane

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Helen, the National Park Service

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authorized 1,81,600

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for the repair.

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Since then, it seems the money has

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disappeared.

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It should be noted that these monies

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from the National Park Service are

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separate from FEMA funds and would not

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affect the restoration funds for

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Hurricane Helen victims. The question

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has come up, where did the money go? And

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I can tell you that nobody up to this

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point seems to be able to say where the

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money went to.

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Here we are in the 250 year anniversary

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of America. And another question should

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be asked, shouldn't one of America's

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greatest poets and patriots, the writer

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of the Pulitzer Prize-winning biography

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on Abraham Lincoln, be treated with more

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respect? The Carl Samberg home national

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historic site with 149,000 visitors in

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2023 was the first US poet's residence

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designated as a national historic site.

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Yet he and Mrs. Samberg's home is being

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neglected.

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Before I go on to just the last two

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paragraphs, I wanted to make one

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personal remark about it and why I know

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so much about it, too. In 2022, when the

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dam fell uh failed, that meant the

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bridge went out. There was no way to get

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older folks and others up to the house.

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So they called my company, the trolley

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company, and asked, would we consider,

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excuse me, offering, you know,

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transportation? Could we do that? This

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was the Friends of Carl Samberg that

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called us. Uh, and I said, "Yes, I I

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think we can do that for a month." And

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so we did. And I drove it. Uh, not all

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the time. We have different drivers, but

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I drove it. I think there's a feeling

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among many communities and all of us

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that when something is in your backyard,

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it just becomes common. You know, you

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kind of take it for granted. So, I think

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there's a feeling out there that the

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Carl Samberg home has become a basically

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a walking trail for locals. And I'm here

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to tell you that is not true.

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One of the most special people I think

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that I transported during that time. It

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was a couple. He was he was very

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elderly. He and his wife had come there

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because he loved the writings of Carl

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Samberg. And he this was on his bucket

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list. And they had come all the way from

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Indiana to come and visit the Carl

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Samberg home. And I can tell you that he

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was not the exception. that people are

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coming here from out of the county, out

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of the state, and in some cases out of

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the country to visit this home.

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We have now a nonpartisan petition to

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restore the funds has g garnered over

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237 signatures from fi citizens who

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value both the economic and cultural

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importance of the Carl Samberg home as

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well as taxpayer accountability. it. And

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I'm going to uh leave a copy of this

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with the secretary. I would ask that she

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would distribute it to you. You can see

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all the names that are on there. We, the

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sign of this petition, are asking two

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things of you. One, an accountability

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report for the taxpayer funds that were

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appropriated. and two, a letter of

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support and request from you to the

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National Park Service and our federal

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officials asking that the monies be

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returned. The taxpayers of Henderson

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County and the region have a right and

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responsibility to know that their tax

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dollars are being spent for the purpose

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intended. The Carl Samberg home is a

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unique and special place and it is our

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responsibility to maintain it. I just

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feel as though it is such an

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embarrassment to our community to go

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over there and see what it's looked like

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for four long years and before Helen and

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I would say to you as elected officials,

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it's going to take you to help us. We've

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got to have you to contact the federal

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um people and to say this is important

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to us. Where's the money? We want to

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move ahead and we don't want to be here

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four years from now, which I can see it

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could be, you know, if we don't. So,

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thank you so much for the time to bring

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this to your attention.

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>> Thank you, Miss Richie, for the

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» Thank you, Miss Richie, for the

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reminder. Uh, Jeff Gro.

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» Good evening, council. My name is Jeff

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Gro. I live on North Main Street here in

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Hendersonville, and as you know, I'm

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running for council as well. Want to

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thank you for your service to the

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residents of Hendersonville. I want to

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comment uh on the meeting la the last

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meeting concerning the data center

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moratorum. Um while I understand the

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pressure that you're under for this

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moratorum I would personally urge

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caution particularly in terms of banning

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data centers I believe is a knee-jerk

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reaction. I ask I'm asking basically

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that you provide more information at

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your second meeting the end of August uh

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about what your plan really is for this

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uh before you take the vote on September

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4th because by that time it'll be too

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late for the public really to understand

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what your what your rationale is and

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what the plan is. I'm personally

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skeptical of banning these facilities

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for a variety of reasons. Uh first, you

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already have some powerful zoning tools,

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though I'm not sure the impact of SB 382

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and how that restricts your down zoning

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ability. Uh there's also tools that are

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proposed in SB730 that address some of

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the negative impacts on the communities.

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Secondly, the technology for these

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centers is rapidly changing to reduce or

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eliminate the burden uh on particularly

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on water and electric use. And there are

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basic economics at work here. uh these

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companies want to reduce their biggest

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input cost which is electric uh and

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water uh in order to improve their

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profitability. Third, these facilities

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pay uh provide very highpaying jobs uh

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pay taxes and are relatively clean as

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far as manufacturing facilities are

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concerned. So I'd hate to see us

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restrict that opportunity here for the

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community. And fourth, whether you like

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it or not, AI is coming and more data

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centers are going to be built. I

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fortunately had an opportunity to speak

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with Gordon G. Chang, a well-known China

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expert, and also former US Senator Rick

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Santorum about the efforts nationally to

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ban these centers. Uh they were both

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here recently locally to give some

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talks. They made three really important

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compelling points to me. one is, you

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know, if you think more globally and not

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just what's happening here in

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Hendersonville, uh we have to win the AI

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battle with China. We are in a battle

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with China on AI. Um and it's for the

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control of this technology versus

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whether it's going to be controlled in

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the US or it's going to be controlled by

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China, which means controlled by the

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CCP. Uh second, a lot of the grassroots

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opposition to this to these centers

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around the country is being funded by

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nefarious groups that don't necessarily

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agree with our our uh our vision of

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society here, many of them linked to the

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CCP. Third, and this is, I think, an

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important point, given the choice

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between your data being stored here in

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the US, uh, or stored in China and

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controlled by the CCP, I'll I'll take

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the US every time. And finally, I think

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in general, the more government gets in

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the way of commerce, the worse things

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can get. Uh, I think government should

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stay out of the way as much as possible.

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So effort's going to cost money uh and

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time, legal time, legal fees and money

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for the staff. And I just question

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whether that money wouldn't be better

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spent on other priorities. Finally, I

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think it's somewhat ironic that council

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might potentially ban data centers, but

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without much public discussion, as far

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as I'm aware, you can correct me if I'm

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wrong, you've embraced the AI powered

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flock surveillance cam cameras. In all

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fairness

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uh to you, the police department

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recently released clear policies that

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are in place to safeguard the use of

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that technology and there are certainly

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benefits, you know, to law enforcement.

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getting out in front of this issue,

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maybe do a public presentation uh to

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explain better how those cameras are

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being used and how you're uh protecting

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the data. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Crow.

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» Thank you, Mr. Crow.

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agenda. Is there anything anyone would

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like to have added to or removed from

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this evening's agenda?

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>> A motion to approve.

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» A motion to approve.

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>> Madam, mayor, I move the city council

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» Madam, mayor, I move the city council

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approve the agenda as presented.

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>> Is there any discussion?

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» Is there any discussion?

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Not. Those in favor of approving the

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agenda as presented say I.

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>> I. Those oppos say no. Eyes have it. We

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» I. Those oppos say no. Eyes have it. We

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have our agenda, consent agenda. Is

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there anything on the consent agenda

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anyone would like to have moved to the

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regular agenda so it can be discussed

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or a motion to approve?

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>> Madame Mayor, I move that city council

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» Madame Mayor, I move that city council

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approve the consent agenda as presented.

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>> Thank you. Is there any discussion?

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» Thank you. Is there any discussion?

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Not those in favor of approving the

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consent agenda say I. I.

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>> Those opposed say no.

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» Those opposed say no.

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>> Eyes have it. We've got that. Okay,

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» Eyes have it. We've got that. Okay,

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we have several presentations this

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evening. First one is an introduction

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and this is of the new director of

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handson.

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You just come.

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>> Mayor V, members of city council,

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» Mayor V, members of city council,

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Lindsay. Lindsay, come on up. Um, I

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didn't feel like you should introduce

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yourself, so I uh we have not formally

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met, but I I am glad to have Lindsay

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Gordon here, who's the new executive

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director at Hands-On Children's Museum.

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So, I'll let her tell you about herself

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and introduce herself.

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>> Well, thank you so much for that

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» Well, thank you so much for that

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introduction and good evening, mayor,

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council members, and city staff. Again,

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my name is Lindseay Gordon and I

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recently had the privilege of becoming

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the executive director of the Hands-On

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Children Museum. And I wanted to take a

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moment to introduce myself, express my

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appreciation for the warm welcome I've

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received and thank you for your

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continued support for both Hands-On

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Children's Museum and the People's

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Museum.

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Your investment in these community

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resources help preserve our history

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while creating opportunities for

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children and families to learn, explore,

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and connect.

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I am a Bvard native. Um, but I also have

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family ties here in Hendersonville. My

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dad actually graduated, well, didn't

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graduate, he attended, uh, North Avenue

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School. Um, it's especially meaningful

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now to serve a community that has been

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part of my family's story and my own

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roots here in Western North Carolina.

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Throughout my career, I have been

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passionate about using museums to

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strengthen communities through

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education, accessibility, and meaningful

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engagement. I believe hands-on is much

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more than a children's museum. It's a

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place where curiosity is sparked,

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lifelong learning begins, and families

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from across our region come together. It

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is a haven. As I begin this role, I look

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forward to building strong partnerships

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with the city, our community

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organizations, and each of you.

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I'm excited to work together to ensure

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our museum continues to enrich the lives

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of residents and visitors for years to

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come. So, thank you again for your

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continued support for the Hands-On M

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Children's Museum and the People's

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Museum, and I look forward to working

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alongside each of you and creating those

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meaningful opportunities for children

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and families here in the city of

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Hendersonville. And again, thank you for

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your time. So, do you have any questions

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for me um about my first role weeks in

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this role? I'm 30 days old today. So, do

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you have any questions for me?

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>> Any questions for Lindsay?

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» Any questions for Lindsay?

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>> Well, good to see you again. and I'm

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» Well, good to see you again. and I'm

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sure we will see you back here again in

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the future.

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>> Yes, sir. Thank you.

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» Yes, sir. Thank you.

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>> Just want to thank Mr. John um and just

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» Just want to thank Mr. John um and just

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thank you for all your all your

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thoughtfulness and and for the

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opportunity. Um I recognize that the

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city is also entering into a period of

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transition um over the next coming

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months um as Mr. Connor prepares his

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well-earned retirement and I wanted to

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thank you for your years of service and

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dedication to Hendersonville. Um, and I

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look forward to working with whomever

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you all select in the future. So,

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>> thank you.

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» thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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» Okay. Uh, next is recognition of city

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employees earning NCTA

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roads scholar certifications.

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Okay. And if you can explain what that

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is.

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>> Yeah. Good evening, mayor and council.

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» Yeah. Good evening, mayor and council.

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Uh, first of all, I'd like to have a few

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folks come up here. Uh, could I have

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Steve Alverson,

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Tammy Hensley,

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Jeremy Buckner, and Brent Pope come up?

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Uh, why don't why don't you just stay

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here and then

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>> Brandy can figure out where to take

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» Brandy can figure out where to take

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photos from. So, we are here to

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recognize uh our road scholar

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recipients. And tonight, we're

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recognizing three city employees who

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have earned road scholar status through

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the Institute for Transportation

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Research and Education at NC State

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University. So, Steve Alverson, our risk

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and safety officer, Timmy Hensley,

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street maintenance supervisor, Jeremy

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Buckner, uh, traffic engineering

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technician, have each completed seven,

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uh, NCLTP, which is the local technical

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assistance program, uh, courses covering

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road maintenance, safety, drainage, and

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related technical and managerial skills

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to earn this professional distinction.

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And I would also like to have a special

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recognition of Brent Pope, our traffic

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engineering supervisor, who has earned

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the highest distinction offered through

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the program, the Master Road Scholar.

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And to reach this level, Brent completed

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the road scholar, the advanced road

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scholar, those two programs. And then in

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addition, completed six advanced level

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courses and completed a case uh study

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paper on local trans on a local

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transportation project. and he'll

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describe that in more detail here in a

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second. I'm just kidding. [laughter]

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So, I'd like to congratulate all four of

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you and thank you for investing in your

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professional development and for the

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work you do to uh keep Hendersonville

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streets safe and well-maintained.

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These out

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[applause]

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And while they're still up there and

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super uncomfortable, I do want to public

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so much of what they do is thankless. I

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wanted to publicly thank them. I'm sure

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if some of you have been downtown

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recently, um especially in the morning,

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you've seen a lot of activity going on.

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There is uh some grinding of sidewalk,

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replacement of sidewalk, removing of

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sidewalk. There are our brick crosswalks

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that are meticulously being pulled out

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and and leveled all ahead of Apple

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Festival when we have a quarter of a

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million plus people here. So, I kind of

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want to take the opportunity to thank

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them as well as Brendan Shanahan and

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Chris Connard over there that have been

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directing that activity. But uh much of

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what these guys do is very thankless and

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it's very behind the scenes and I just

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wanted to take the opportunity again

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while they're up here standing in front

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of everybody and super uncomfortable to

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thank them publicly. [applause]

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» [applause]

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» Thank you all for taking your time to

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improve your knowledge and skills and uh

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being able to come back and share it

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with the city and all of our residents.

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Thank you.

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>> Mayor, if I may.

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» Mayor, if I may.

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>> Yes.

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» Yes.

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>> Personal privilege. Brian, are in your

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» Personal privilege. Brian, are in your

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um report with the strategic plan, are

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you going to talk about um the positive

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momentum we made with Timmy Hensley with

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uh the pavement cuts? Are you going to

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mention that? I want to make sure why

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Timmy's here.

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>> I am going to council know that um the

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» I am going to council know that um the

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message has been heard. Fix the damn

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streets. Right, Timmy? And you Timmy has

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taken that motto um taken it seriously

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and you will hear later um what a great

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job that street uh division is doing um

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fixing the um utility cuts and the

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potholes around the street as they're

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reported to us. So, um, I just wanted to

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recognize Timmy, everybody. And then, I

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mean, I could go on about Brett and the

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parking deck and Jeremy. I could go on

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forever about the whole team, but I

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Timmy doesn't like to come into places

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like this often. So, um, I want to make

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sure we recognize him and tell him we

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appreciate what he's doing.

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[applause]

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All right. Thank you.

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Okay.

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All right. Well, it's almost the end of

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summer, so it is time to hear from our

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student interns.

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First, we have Jules Chapensai

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and the MSD case study.

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Good evening, madame mayor and members

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of the city council. Thank you all for

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being here. My name is Jules Chapensai

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and Ethan and I have had the privilege

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of working with the city as summer admin

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interns this summer. Over the past three

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months, we have worked on our own

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individual research projects which we

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will be presenting to you today. This

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evening, I am presenting my research on

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the 7th AB city investment through the

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years 2010 to present day 2026.

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A little bit about me. I am a rising

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junior at Brimar College near the

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Philadelphia area. I am pursuing a

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bachelor's of arts degree in the growth

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and structure of cities and frank French

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and franophhone studies. and I have an

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interest in pursuing urban planning or

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civil engineering.

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I am here before you today to inform you

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about the past and recent city

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investment in the seventh a while

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analyzing the impacts of not only the

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economic development of the business

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corridor but also the surrounding

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neighborhoods around it. The key

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research question that I will be

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analyzing today is how can local

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governments use tools such as municipal

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service districts or MSDS alongside

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various other city investments to

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promote economic revitalization while

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minimizing gentrification and the risk

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of resident displacement. Along with my

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individual research, I also had the

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chance and opportunity to interview

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community members as well.

544
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For the purpose of this presentation,

545
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,039
gentrification is explored as more than

546
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:19,360
a process of neighborhood redevelopment.

547
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,120
It is understood as a process of

548
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,760
displacement and transformation. As new

549
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,919
res as new residents and investment

550
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:28,320
enter a neighborhood, they can reshape

551
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,559
its physical landscape, economic

552
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,799
conditions, and cultural character.

553
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,520
often reorienting how the community is

554
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,760
identified, represented, and valued.

555
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,799
On this map shown here is the 7th A

556
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,440
municipal service district. A municipal

557
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,400
service district or MSD is a defined

558
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,960
area within a municipality in which the

559
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,960
unit's governing board levies an

560
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200
additional property tax in order to

561
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,760
provide extra services to the residents

562
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,440
or properties in the district.

563
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,440
Local governments have long grappled

564
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,080
with the challenge of revitalizing areas

565
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,799
affected by disinvestment, crime, and

566
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,600
economic decline. Hendersonville's 7th

567
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Avenue Municipal Service District or MSD

568
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,039
demonstrates a case study in which city

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00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:18,960
investment can help transform a

570
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,840
historically stigmatized area marked by

571
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320
vacant buildings, homelessness, and

572
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480
public safety concerns and turn it into

573
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,120
a vibrant business district while also

574
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,320
influencing the surrounding

575
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,960
neighborhoods. Here shown on the map is

576
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,520
the seventh a which I will be analyzing

577
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,039
today.

578
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,200
In highlighted in burgundy red is the

579
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,559
7th a MSD I was mentioning earlier. Um

580
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:44,799
some key places to note is the train

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00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,039
depot, the rescue mission, some

582
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,840
businesses around the 7th a area in this

583
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,720
corner. Um as well as the police station

584
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,720
and then some couple parks which is the

585
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,360
H William H. King Memorial Park as well

586
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,679
as Sullivan Park and then Boys and Girls

587
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:02,960
Club here and then the yellow hashed um

588
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,799
parcels are the Green Meadows

589
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:07,990
neighborhood.

590
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,799
Next, I will go into some demographics.

591
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,919
I use publicly available 2010 and 2020

592
00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:16,640
census data. I highlight three different

593
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,600
geographic areas. Henderson County, City

594
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,159
of Hendersonville, and the Seventh A,

595
00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:25,279
which consists of 36 census blocks.

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00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,360
Since I use publicly available census

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00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,600
data, these following charts have a

598
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,400
slight margin of error.

599
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,880
This is a population chart showing the

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00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,480
population changes from 2010 to 2020.

601
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,799
The population in Henderson County

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00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,279
increased by 8.9%.

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00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,640
In the city, it increased by 15.2%.

604
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,760
And in the 7th A area, it decreased by

605
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000
tw by 10.2%

606
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,520
losing 82 residents.

607
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,679
Next, these are the race demographics

608
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:02,559
shown as a sidebyside comparison between

609
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,520
2010 and 2020 in race ethnicity pie

610
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,799
charts. The data here shows a noticeable

611
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,360
shift toward greater racial and ethnic

612
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,400
diversity from 2010 to 2020 in the

613
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,640
seventh AB area

614
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,960
with the mixed race defined as two or

615
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,200
more races increasing by 7%. While black

616
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840
or African-American residents remained

617
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000
one of the largest groups, their share

618
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,200
declined by 13%. Hispanic residents

619
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240
increased to 30% in 2020 with an

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00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,440
increase of 6% from 2010, while white

621
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,520
stayed roughly the same, only decreasing

622
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,830
by 2%.

623
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Shown on these swipe maps, you can see

624
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,320
the changes in the same exact data that

625
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,240
was on the previous slide.

626
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200
This is the map showing 2010 changes and

627
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,720
then this is the map showing 2020.

628
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,000
Each dot represents one person. In these

629
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,919
white maps, you can visually see the

630
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:06,400
increase in mixed population identified

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00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,360
in bright pink as two or more as well as

632
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,240
the increase of Hispanic in dark purple.

633
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240
To note, the race dots shown here are

634
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,320
just a visual representation where each

635
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,120
race dot is randomly placed within each

636
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,760
census block which may show a small

637
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,830
margin of error.

638
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Next, I will go to talk about the

639
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,440
historical context. I will show share a

640
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,640
brief timeline um of key moments um talk

641
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,640
about the train depot then a little bit

642
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,400
about urban renewal and then the

643
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,919
Brooklyn neighborhood which is now

644
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:41,360
considered as the green meadows

645
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,710
neighborhood.

646
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,039
Some key moments in time in the 7th a

647
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,360
area.

648
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,279
The train arrives in Hendersonville in

649
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,279
1879.

650
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:57,520
In 1960s and 70s is urban renewal and

651
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,279
resident housing displacement. In 1968

652
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,440
the passenger rail service stopped and

653
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,559
in 1971 MLK Junior Boulevard was

654
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,760
constructed into the 7th AB area.

655
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,240
Sometime in the 1980s Zolivan Park was

656
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,200
created and in 1998 the the 7th AB MSD

657
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,520
was established.

658
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,120
In 2015, the 7th Avenue MSD came under a

659
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,120
city management as well as a district

660
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,640
expansion. And between 2018 to current,

661
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
there are some infrastructure projects

662
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,480
that I will highlight later on in the

663
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,000
presentation.

664
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080
And finally, Hurricane Helen hit in

665
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,549
2024.

666
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,559
The historic train depot.

667
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,559
Hendersonville's first train depot was

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00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,520
built in 1879. With the new mode of

669
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600
transportation connecting Hendersonville

670
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,320
to Saluda and other cities, this area

671
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,159
became a bustling hub of commercial

672
00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:56,960
business. The historic train depot used

673
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200
for passengers as well as for business.

674
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200
However, the train stopped passenger

675
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,510
service in 1968.

676
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Urban renewal happened in the 1960s and

677
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,679
1970s. Urban renewal started with the

678
00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:14,320
Housing Act of 1949.

679
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,799
It was a federal government-led strategy

680
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,039
aimed at revitalizing declining city

681
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,200
areas considered as blighted and

682
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,120
upgrading infrastructure, in this case

683
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,799
housing, and spurring private

684
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,440
development. Urban renewal was also

685
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,600
known as the era of slum clearance.

686
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,320
This is a 1930s red lining map of

687
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Hendersonville.

688
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,799
As you can see on this map, the only

689
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,480
area considered as blighted in the

690
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Hendersonville in Hendersonville was the

691
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,840
7th A area across the train tracks, also

692
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,240
known as the Brooklyn neighborhood. The

693
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,799
other categories labeled on this map are

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00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,480
best residential, good residential,

695
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:00,310
poor residential, and industrial.

696
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,159
Next is the Brooklyn neighborhood.

697
00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:04,080
Brooklyn neighborhood was historically

698
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480
primarily African-American neighborhood

699
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,559
which is now considered present day as

700
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,720
Green Meadows neighborhood. Brooklyn

701
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440
took root in the late 1800s as

702
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840
emancipated slaves sought work and

703
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,039
settled around h settled in houses along

704
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,200
a brook explaining the likelihood of the

705
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,960
name Brooklyn.

706
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,200
During urban renewal, residents were

707
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
offered a meager stipen to move

708
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,799
elsewhere. By 1972, all the homes in the

709
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,799
neighborhood were demolished to create

710
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,200
new housing development, now renamed to

711
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Green Meadows Neighborhood.

712
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,120
However, the neighborhood's culture and

713
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,159
sense of community were largely lost as

714
00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:43,846
a result of urban renewal.

715
00:30:43,846 --> 00:30:44,480
[clears throat and cough]

716
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,399
Many displaced families were unable to

717
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:48,080
return because of the new housing's

718
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760
unaffordability.

719
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Although some families were able to move

720
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,919
back, the neighborhood's community

721
00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:56,559
spirit had already diminished due to the

722
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,799
displacement and dispersion of longtime

723
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,120
residents.

724
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,760
This is the original map of the Brooklyn

725
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,310
neighborhood.

726
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,399
Next is Green Meadows Park, which was

727
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:13,039
renamed to William H. King Memorial Park

728
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,279
in 1982.

729
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,919
In this preliminary plan, Green Meadows

730
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,919
Park was going to have a lake, a

731
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,559
softball and football field, as well as

732
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,039
tennis and shuffleboard courts. Selvin

733
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,120
Park was planned to have a plaza, a

734
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,679
multi-purpose court and tables. However,

735
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:34,230
this plan never came to be.

736
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,039
This is a map showing the same exact

737
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:51,590
preliminary map on aerial imagery.

738
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Next, I will be going into the views

739
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,240
into the case study to better understand

740
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,120
all the different ways to explore to to

741
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360
explore city investment in the seventh a

742
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,679
area. After establishing the municipal

743
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:08,320
service district, we can look at six key

744
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,039
focus areas to better understand the

745
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,880
impacts on the surrounding neighborhoods

746
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,519
and community.

747
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,200
First is neighborhood history and

748
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,840
community organizations.

749
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,880
In 1989, the 7th Avenue Historic

750
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960
District was established in the National

751
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Register. A key community-led project is

752
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,039
the community garden. The revitalization

753
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,000
started in 2023 and the project secured

754
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
roughly $55,000

755
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,919
from various nonprofits in the city of

756
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:41,200
Hendersonville. In an effort to preserve

757
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,600
neighborhood identity and culture, an

758
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,440
unnamed creek in the Green Meadows

759
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360
neighborhood was given the name Brooklyn

760
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,679
Creek. Along with it, there is a bird

761
00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:51,279
sanctuary.

762
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,519
Some community organizations include the

763
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,840
Rescue Mission, which is a nonprofit

764
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,000
that provides shelter and resources for

765
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,240
people experiencing homelessness.

766
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,159
Another is the Boys and Girls Club,

767
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:04,159
which provides a recreational and

768
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:07,360
educational space for the youth.

769
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,159
Next is zoning and policy. Another

770
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,640
policy tool that the city considered was

771
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
developing an urban redevelopment area,

772
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000
which is defined as a geographic area

773
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,399
targeted for redevelopment by a local

774
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,640
government in compliance with the urban

775
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,679
redevelopment law. For an area to be

776
00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:28,240
eligible for a designation, the targeted

777
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,039
area must be classified as blighted. And

778
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,440
once designated, the local government

779
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,919
may use special statuary powers designed

780
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:38,000
to attract private investment and

781
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,720
facilitate redevelopment. However, the

782
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,480
city did not choose to pursue this

783
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,120
option.

784
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,120
Here shown is the 2011 and 2026 zoning

785
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,399
changes map. This is 2011 and this is

786
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:55,120
2026.

787
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440
As shown on this map, the primary

788
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,320
changes occur within the 7th AB MSD

789
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,799
where several industrial and residential

790
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,440
parcels have been reszoned to central

791
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,480
mix use, creating greater flexibility

792
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,879
for a mix of residential and commercial

793
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:14,159
new development.

794
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,639
Next is public safety. The new police

795
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,879
station construction was completed in

796
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:22,159
2021 with the total project cost around

797
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,280
$1.5 million. There have also been

798
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,280
lighting improvements with new street

799
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,679
lighting along 7th Avenue and some

800
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,919
public safety cameras were put up in

801
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,000
addition throughout the city, not just

802
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,040
7th Avenue. The city continues and

803
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,679
provides numerous opportunities for

804
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,560
public input with the upcoming splash

805
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,119
day at Sullivan Park where residents and

806
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,879
more will have a chance to provide

807
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:49,040
feedback and concerns related to public

808
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,879
safety.

809
00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:53,440
Next is strong infrastructure. Since

810
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200
2018, the city has invested around $9.5

811
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,320
million in sidewalk improvements, water,

812
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200
sewer, and storm water improvements. And

813
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320
in addition, upcoming this year projects

814
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,320
include street resurfacing, and curb

815
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,000
ramps to be compliant with ADA

816
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,119
standards. Future allocated projects in

817
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,000
2027 have an allocated cost of a little

818
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,359
over $1.6 million.

819
00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:22,400
Next is housing. The housing rehab

820
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400
program was centered around the 7th AB

821
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,640
area within the municipal service

822
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,680
district or MSD between Cherry and Beach

823
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,839
Street. The city was granted the

824
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,079
CDBGNR21

825
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,400
grant, also known as the community

826
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,720
development block grant, neighborhood

827
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:40,400
revitalization.

828
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,480
With these funds and alongside the

829
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,880
partnership with housing assistance, we

830
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,640
rehabbed three homes and added

831
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,280
sidewalks. The total investment for the

832
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,680
program bringing approximately $931,000

833
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,480
included the CDBG grant as well as

834
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,240
additional financial support from the

835
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,880
city.

836
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,920
Next is economic development. As I said

837
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,000
earlier in 1998 the 7th Avenue MSD was

838
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,000
established. By 2015 the 7th A MSD was

839
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040
expanded in under city management. And

840
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,880
for the Main Street program, the Main

841
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,880
Street program switched from nonprofit

842
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,359
to a city program around the same time

843
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,680
the 7th AB MSD came under city

844
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,119
management. Since 2020, facade grants

845
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,880
have been given in partnership with the

846
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,200
nonprofit Friends of Downtown

847
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,599
Andersonville, and they are incentives

848
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,680
for exterior improvements to properties

849
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,320
of Main Street and 7th Avenue historic

850
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,040
districts with awards which are based on

851
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520
the quality of proposed improvements in

852
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,520
compliance with historic preservation

853
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,320
guidelines. Downtown beautifification

854
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
initiatives included the installation of

855
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,440
hanging flower baskets along 7th Avenue

856
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,880
as well.

857
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,160
as a an additional initiative included

858
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,359
the creation of dedicated downtown event

859
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:04,320
staff positions to support programming,

860
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,119
community events, and economic activity

861
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,160
within the district. To add, the farmers

862
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,800
market on Maple Street started in 2020

863
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,040
has brought many people together across

864
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Henderson County every Saturday.

865
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,280
Next are some value per acre maps that

866
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:28,390
are 3D that I will be showing next.

867
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
On these maps, yellow are residential

868
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839
parcels, red represents commercial,

869
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:36,240
lavender purple are nonprofits,

870
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,480
governmental is in blue, and gray is

871
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640
vacant land.

872
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,359
From 20 an overview of total average

873
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:47,920
value per acre from 2011 to 2016, the

874
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560
total average value per acre decreased

875
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,839
by 19%. Quick note, many of the

876
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:56,160
nonprofits do not have substantial value

877
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,960
per acre until 2020.

878
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,280
From 2016 to 2020, the total average

879
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,520
value per acre increased by 47%.

880
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,359
From 2020 to 2026, it increased by 136%.

881
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:15,599
The tallest tower shown on this map in

882
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,520
blue is the new PlayStation.

883
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,240
Over the whole time period between 2011

884
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,359
to 2026, the total average value per

885
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:29,920
acre increases by 176%.

886
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,720
For just commercial parcels from 2011 to

887
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,440
2026, the average value per acre

888
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,160
increased by 61%.

889
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,720
For residential, however, the in the

890
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,000
same time period of 2011 to 2026, it

891
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,480
increased by 115%.

892
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Roughly increasing 8% per year. Since

893
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,359
this percent increase seems shockingly

894
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:53,920
high, in comparison with the citywide

895
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,240
average, the assessed value growth over

896
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,839
the same time period is about 185% or

897
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:03,040
increasing by 12% per year.

898
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Over the years, there have been a lot of

899
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,359
commercial land infill, especially

900
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:09,680
within the 7th AB municipal service

901
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,079
district. Like I said with zoning

902
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,160
previously, the zoning changes within

903
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,240
the MSD from residential or an

904
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,800
industrial to central mixed use within

905
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,160
the MSD allows for new development

906
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,079
to occur.

907
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:27,200
To add, several 7th Avenue parcels

908
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,800
transitioned from commercial to

909
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,359
nonprofit land classification between

910
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,839
2011 and 2026.

911
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:35,920
Despite the land class change, property

912
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,440
values per acre remain strong with some

913
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,720
increasing more than 120%.

914
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,079
For residential, many homes on Pac Grove

915
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,079
Street experienced some of the largest

916
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:51,119
percentage increases in value per acre

917
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:54,560
between 2011 and 2026.

918
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,200
Martin Circle also had several parcels

919
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,119
doubling in value per acre during the

920
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:10,150
same time period.

921
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,359
This is a table of the overall average

922
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:15,440
value per acre percent changes that I

923
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,560
mentioned previously.

924
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440
In conclusion, revisiting the original

925
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,079
research question, this case study shows

926
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,480
overall that the use of the MSD along

927
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,720
with city investment strategies has

928
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,119
revitalized the seventh AB area and the

929
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,280
data we analyzed does not show trends

930
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,599
that would risk and heighten that would

931
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,240
heighten the risk of displacement.

932
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,560
This successful case study shows how a

933
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,359
disinvested area like 7th Avenue could

934
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:46,000
change into a vibrant business corridor,

935
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
thus creating the potential for future

936
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,800
municipal service district expansions.

937
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,280
Some commercial MSD highlights in the

938
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,319
7th AB MSD since 2018 include

939
00:40:56,319 --> 00:41:01,200
approximately n 27 net jobs gained, 12

940
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,800
net businesses added, and $1.45 $45

941
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,200
million in private investment including

942
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,960
commercial building renovations and

943
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,359
uplifts.

944
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:12,960
Thank you. And I would like to open the

945
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
floor for any comments and qu questions.

946
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:23,123
Okay. Thank you. Comments or questions.

947
00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:27,270
[applause]

948
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,040
» I have a question. I have a question.

949
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,990
>> This was awesome.

950
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:30,000
» This was awesome.

951
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,790
>> Thank you.

952
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:30,800
» Thank you.

953
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,069
>> Oh, sorry. Um, do you know um who

954
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:36,079
» Oh, sorry. Um, do you know um who

955
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,359
managed the 7th Avenue MSD prior to 2015

956
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:42,079
and what was the reasoning to to move it

957
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,880
under city management?

958
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,990
>> I am pretty sure from my knowledge that

959
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:48,000
» I am pretty sure from my knowledge that

960
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,079
it was

961
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,560
a bunch of community members um that

962
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,599
managed it um called like the seventh

963
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,560
revitalization committee. Um I got this

964
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,520
information from the local newspapers um

965
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560
in Times New in the 7th A historic train

966
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,800
depot. So if you have are curious more

967
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,560
about that history, you could check it

968
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,040
out.

969
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,270
>> Jules, I can help a little bit. Um so it

970
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:11,280
» Jules, I can help a little bit. Um so it

971
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
was a group of citizens. Dennis Dunlap,

972
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,319
Chris Cormier was part of the group. Um

973
00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:20,950
>> the Wagner sisters were part of the

974
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:20,960
» the Wagner sisters were part of the

975
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,720
group. um, City Tire, um, a group of

976
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,359
citizens who helped form it originally

977
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,920
and they treated it like a nonprofit um,

978
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000
and they hired their own staff person

979
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200
for a while, very similar to what was

980
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,440
um, DHI downtown Hendersonville

981
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Incorporated was a separate nonprofit

982
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,839
where they took their tax money and

983
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:46,160
hired and um, we had seen the success of

984
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,599
uh, moving DHI into the city with LSE

985
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,720
hiring um, in 200 2011

986
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,960
2011. And so in 2015, we were seeing

987
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,119
loss of traction um despite

988
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,000
very hard work and efforts um that we

989
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,640
were able to put the Main Street program

990
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,560
um and bring the um 7th Avenue District

991
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,079
into the city into our downtown and and

992
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,079
coordinate it being one downtown because

993
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:17,920
there was this feeling that that we we

994
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,760
had two separate downtowns. We had Main

995
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920
Street and we had and we wanted it to be

996
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,440
clear that we have one downtown

997
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Hendersonville. So that's kind of the

998
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,040
history of Brian. I don't if you want to

999
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,160
add anything.

1000
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,069
>> So there was a council member years ago,

1001
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:32,079
» So there was a council member years ago,

1002
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,800
Steve Carricker, who really focused a

1003
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,599
lot on 7th Avenue revitalization and he

1004
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,440
passed away several years ago, but he

1005
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,000
would be like very very proud of all of

1006
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,200
this. So

1007
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,990
>> hopefully he's watching somewhere.

1008
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:46,000
» hopefully he's watching somewhere.

1009
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,069
>> Yeah.

1010
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:48,079
» Yeah.

1011
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:49,430
>> Cool. Thank you.

1012
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:49,440
» Cool. Thank you.

1013
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,190
>> And I just want to thank Jules and

1014
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:51,200
» And I just want to thank Jules and

1015
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,319
commend her. She came in uh with a lot

1016
00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,800
of skill sets in mapping and GIS and she

1017
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480
really showcased those tonight with her

1018
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,640
swipe maps and her tower charts. It's

1019
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
it's not an easy thing to do and she was

1020
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,720
very committed to that process. So,

1021
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:05,839
thank you, Jules.

1022
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:06,230
>> Thank you.

1023
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:06,240
» Thank you.

1024
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,589
>> Thank you, Jules. Great job,

1025
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:07,599
» Thank you, Jules. Great job,

1026
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:12,790
>> Jules.

1027
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,200
» Thank you, Jules. Um, for your research,

1028
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,760
could you give me the property value

1029
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,359
increase on Pace and Cherry Street

1030
00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:21,520
again?

1031
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,510
>> Um,

1032
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:23,520
» Um,

1033
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,359
I don't have the data with me directly

1034
00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:29,200
on the property.

1035
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,109
>> What was that? What was the tax value?

1036
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:31,119
» What was that? What was the tax value?

1037
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,870
>> Oh, the tax increase. Yes.

1038
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:32,880
» Oh, the tax increase. Yes.

1039
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,190
>> On those properties on Pace and Cherry

1040
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:35,200
» On those properties on Pace and Cherry

1041
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Jonas.

1042
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,910
>> So,

1043
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:39,920
» So,

1044
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,640
I did I mention that? I may have mis

1045
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,400
misheard you, but I thought you

1046
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040
mentioned something about the the value

1047
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,040
increased those those homes.

1048
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,190
>> Yeah. Um I didn't provide actual numbers

1049
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:53,200
» Yeah. Um I didn't provide actual numbers

1050
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680
for the homes on Pace and Grove Street.

1051
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,079
I just said that it was one of some of

1052
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,000
the largest um percent increases in

1053
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,800
value per acre. Um however, I do have

1054
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,160
that data. Um I could I'd be happy to

1055
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,920
send over the data if since you're

1056
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,640
curious.

1057
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,910
>> Yeah. and

1058
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:09,920
» Yeah. and

1059
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,950
>> don't have it currently with you.

1060
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:10,960
» don't have it currently with you.

1061
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,750
>> Did you in your research did you find

1062
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:13,760
» Did you in your research did you find

1063
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,599
out why they did not why they changed it

1064
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,359
from Brooklyn to Green Meadows? Green

1065
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:21,599
Meadows to me sounds reminds me of Green

1066
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,440
Acres.

1067
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:23,990
>> Yeah,

1068
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:24,000
» Yeah,

1069
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,470
>> it should have remained Brooklyn. So, in

1070
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:26,480
» it should have remained Brooklyn. So, in

1071
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,319
your research, did you find out why that

1072
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:29,280
was changed?

1073
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,790
>> I agree with you. Um,

1074
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:32,800
» I agree with you. Um,

1075
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,480
I unfortunately did not find anything

1076
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,440
about why the name change, but I did

1077
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,800
find many Brooklyn neighborhood

1078
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,000
community members want like wanted to

1079
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
bring back the name Brooklyn and rename

1080
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,680
it. Um, however, it never happened. So,

1081
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,800
I'm not really sure why, but I pretty

1082
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:00,240
sure to my best knowledge the um it was

1083
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,240
during the time of urban renewal that

1084
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,560
they kind of changed um into Green

1085
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Meadows neighborhood. I don't really

1086
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,760
know um why where that name came from,

1087
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,000
but I'm sure I could find out for you if

1088
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,280
you're interested.

1089
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,349
>> Once again, thank you for your research.

1090
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:15,359
» Once again, thank you for your research.

1091
00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:18,870
>> Thank you.

1092
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,000
» Good job, Julie.

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00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,349
>> Great job.

1094
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:31,589
Okay. [applause]

1095
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,920
All right. Uh, next we'll hear from

1096
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:48,550
Ethan Walls on encampment procedures.

1097
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,720
Good evening, madame mayor, members of

1098
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,880
the city council. I come before you

1099
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,800
today to present on my summer internship

1100
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,960
project which focuses on policy

1101
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
approaches to address encampments.

1102
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Before we get too far into the content

1103
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,720
of the presentation, I would like to

1104
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,960
talk a little bit about myself. I am

1105
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,040
currently living in Asheville, North

1106
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,760
Carolina. I have lived there for 13

1107
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,359
years and I'm specifically from South

1108
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:14,000
Asheville. So, I'm not too terribly far

1109
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,079
from here. I am currently studying

1110
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:18,000
political science and public policy at

1111
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,520
the University of North Carolina at

1112
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Chapel Hill, which I will be graduating

1113
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,880
from in May of 2027. I am particularly

1114
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,560
interested in local government and

1115
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,400
eventually want to pursue my masters of

1116
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,200
public administration at the UNCC School

1117
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,040
of Government.

1118
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,640
So, now we'll get into the desired

1119
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,800
outcomes for this presentation. The

1120
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,560
first is to get direction from council

1121
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,720
on how to address encampments. The

1122
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,160
second is to protect the health and

1123
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,000
safety of the community, including

1124
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,079
people experiencing homelessness. The

1125
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,839
third is to give staff tools to provide

1126
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:49,599
a healthier and safer environment for

1127
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,839
the community. The fourth is to ensure

1128
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,240
consistent enforcement of city policies.

1129
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,000
The fifth is to assist private property

1130
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,160
and business owners. And the last is to

1131
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,520
explore opportunities to address

1132
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,160
contributing factors to encampments. So

1133
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,920
now I'll give a quick overview of the

1134
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,280
presentation before we go too much

1135
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,359
further into it. I'll start with a

1136
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:08,880
little bit of background on homelessness

1137
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,359
specifically in the US. Then I'll look

1138
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:12,720
at homelessness specifically in

1139
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,800
Hendersonville and Henderson County.

1140
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,640
Then I will do a review of the existing

1141
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,000
methods that the city has used to

1142
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,920
address encampments in the past. Then

1143
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,839
I'll do a quick overview of the current

1144
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:23,920
legislative and legal environment

1145
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,240
surrounding encampments. Then I'll look

1146
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,559
at some new encampment policy options

1147
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,400
for you to consider as well as

1148
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,839
additional opportunities to address

1149
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,000
encampments. And a quick note, the

1150
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,760
policies I am presenting here, we are

1151
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,240
not considering any sort of binding vote

1152
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:40,079
on these. These are just presenting some

1153
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,880
options for you to consider.

1154
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,480
So now I'll go into a little bit of

1155
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,559
background on the subject. So when we're

1156
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:47,760
looking at homelessness, we're

1157
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,359
specifically looking at people who are

1158
00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:51,680
considered chronically homeless. So HUD

1159
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,119
defines chronically homeless as a

1160
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:55,280
homeless individual with a disability.

1161
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,200
And that can include a lot of things. It

1162
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,040
can include people with a physical or

1163
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,359
mental health challenge or somebody with

1164
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:04,240
a substance use challenge who lives in a

1165
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,559
place not meant for human habitation, a

1166
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,280
safe haven or in an emergency shelter

1167
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,040
and has lived under these conditions for

1168
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,280
12 months. This also includes people in

1169
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200
jails or treatment facilities who met

1170
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,359
these criteria prior to entry and

1171
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:18,880
families in which the head of household

1172
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,359
meets these criteria. So if we look at

1173
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,920
the data and specifically for the entire

1174
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,520
country of there's around 170,000

1175
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,599
individuals in the US who are considered

1176
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,520
chronically homeless and that makes up

1177
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,000
around 30% of all homeless individuals

1178
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,319
and if we look at this chart from HUD

1179
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:38,559
the percentages are actually fairly

1180
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:41,119
close to where they were around 2008

1181
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:44,079
2009 when the great recession happened

1182
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,000
and increases in chronic homelessness

1183
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,400
are a big factor in nationwide increases

1184
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,559
in homelessness rates And in North

1185
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,400
Carolina specifically, there is around

1186
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
2560 individuals who are considered

1187
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,200
chronically homeless. So now we'll look

1188
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,480
at homelessness specifically in

1189
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,720
Hendersonville and Henderson County. So

1190
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,240
most of the information on homelessness

1191
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,640
in Henderson County comes from what are

1192
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
called point in time or pit counts. And

1193
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,880
they represent all homeless persons who

1194
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,559
meet HUD's definition of sheltered and

1195
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,720
unsheltered on a single night during the

1196
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,000
last 10 days of January. And for those

1197
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,480
definitions, the HUD's definition of

1198
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,720
shelter focuses on an individual or

1199
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,640
family living in a supervised publicly

1200
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
or privately operated shelter designated

1201
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,119
to provide temporary living arrangement,

1202
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:28,800
including congregate shelters,

1203
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,559
transitional housing, and hotels and

1204
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,079
motel paid for by charitable

1205
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,319
organizations or by federal, state, or

1206
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,160
local government programs for low-income

1207
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,000
individuals. HUD's definition of

1208
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,240
unsheltered focuses on an individual or

1209
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,760
family with a primary nighttime

1210
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,680
residence that is a public or private

1211
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,240
place not designed for ordinarily used

1212
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,079
as a regular sleeping accommodation for

1213
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,800
human beings including a car, park,

1214
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,480
abandoned building, bus or train

1215
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,680
station, airport or campground. So pet

1216
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,240
counts do provide important context on

1217
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,000
the homelessness situation in

1218
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Hendersonville, but they are imperfect.

1219
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,160
They don't include people in

1220
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,040
institutions such as jails, foster care,

1221
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,680
hospitals, etc. They also don't include

1222
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,520
people who are temporarily staying with

1223
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,040
family or friends. So, people who are

1224
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,000
doubled up or couch surfing. And the US

1225
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,319
off government accountability office

1226
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:20,800
actually did a study on this in 2020

1227
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,559
that found that pit counts likely

1228
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:24,319
underestimate the size of the homeless

1229
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,480
population. So, while this data does

1230
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,559
provide some good information, it should

1231
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,960
be taken with a little bit of a grant.

1232
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,480
So,

1233
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,319
So now we'll look into the data

1234
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:36,079
specifically. So if we look at the last

1235
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,599
five pick counts from 2021 to 2025, the

1236
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:40,800
the average number of people

1237
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,400
experiencing homelessness each year in

1238
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,599
Henderson County is around 182 and

1239
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:48,240
people per year. And then if we look at

1240
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,359
the last five pit counts o over time,

1241
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:52,640
you will notice that there's been a

1242
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,000
dramatic increase in the number of

1243
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,280
people experiencing homelessness in

1244
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,359
Henderson County. An important thing to

1245
00:51:57,359 --> 00:51:59,200
point out, you will notice that for the

1246
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,680
2025 pit count, there was around 600

1247
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,119
people experiencing homelessness in

1248
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,599
Henderson County. That number is heavily

1249
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:08,480
inflated by posting

1250
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,880
displacement. There was no pit count in

1251
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,599
2026 due to wintertorrm fern last

1252
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,000
January. And the city will be taking a

1253
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,040
more active role in the 2027 pit count,

1254
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,720
which should give more context not only

1255
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,000
on the state of homelessness in

1256
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Hendersonville and Henderson County, but

1257
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,119
should also provide details on permanent

1258
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,760
displacement from Helen.

1259
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,280
So now we'll look at the shelter

1260
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,839
situation specifically in Henderson

1261
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,000
County. So there is one homeless shelter

1262
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,680
in Henderson County which is operated by

1263
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,599
the Hendersonville Rescue Mission that

1264
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,160
has around 82 beds in total. Some of the

1265
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,599
requirements with the shelter are that

1266
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,000
guests have to be able-bodied. There are

1267
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,160
also sobriety requirements and the

1268
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,839
shelter also requires three night

1269
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:51,680
minimum stays and Henderson County

1270
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,240
residency. These can make the shelter a

1271
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,079
lot less accessible for people who have

1272
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:58,720
a physical or mental disability or

1273
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,720
people who need help but are not quite

1274
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,280
ready to quit substance use. So there

1275
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,880
are several actions being taken by

1276
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,119
community partners that can help people

1277
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,520
become eligible for the shelter which

1278
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,760
can include physical and mental health

1279
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,520
services, coordination with county

1280
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,760
services, specifically the drug court

1281
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,839
and addiction counseling and support.

1282
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,760
However, shelter accessibility remains

1283
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,760
an issue and because of the lack of

1284
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,400
shelter accessibility, it becomes a lot

1285
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,760
easier for people experiencing

1286
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,160
homelessness to consider encampments as

1287
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,800
a form of living accommodation.

1288
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,720
So why is it important that the city

1289
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,776
address encampments? The first

1290
00:53:34,776 --> 00:53:35,760
[clears throat] are public health and

1291
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,839
safety issues. For people living in

1292
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:39,760
encampments, they are more vulnerable to

1293
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,319
being exposed to violent crime. They

1294
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:44,480
also expose the community to unsanitary

1295
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,000
conditions, especially when there is

1296
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,800
trash present. They also deter if an

1297
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,720
encampment is in a public space such as

1298
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,520
a public park, it may deter use of that

1299
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,079
public space. Encampments also present a

1300
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:57,680
lot of challenges for the Hendersonville

1301
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,319
Police Department. From June 2025 to

1302
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:04,640
June 2026, PD responded to around 1,816

1303
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,119
incidents involving people experiencing

1304
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,200
homelessness, which was an increase from

1305
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,400
June 2024 to June 2025. So this chart

1306
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,400
does a good job of breaking down those

1307
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,119
incidents. If we look at this chart, the

1308
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:19,119
most common category of incidents were

1309
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,119
suspicious activity, person or vehicle

1310
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,520
incidents. The second largest was other,

1311
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,079
which includes things such as warrant

1312
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:28,400
services and traffic stops. And the

1313
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,640
third biggest is medical and behavioral

1314
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,800
incidents which involves things such as

1315
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,800
health and wellness checks. And many of

1316
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,480
these medical and behavioral incidents

1317
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,559
can be difficult for law enforcement to

1318
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,559
navigate. So having some more on

1319
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,960
concrete policies on encampment would

1320
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,480
help inform some create some procedures

1321
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,559
and help with creating procedures in

1322
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,760
place to de deal with encampment

1323
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,440
specifically the role of the police

1324
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,119
social worker in dealing with medical

1325
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,440
and behavioral incidents.

1326
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,760
So now I'm going to go into a heat map

1327
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,599
that shows several of these encounters.

1328
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:03,520
An important thing about this data and

1329
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,680
the data I mentioned earlier is that

1330
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,760
this is based on reported incidents and

1331
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,839
so there will be some margin of error,

1332
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:12,079
but some of the most common locations of

1333
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:13,920
police encounters include right around

1334
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,760
downtown, especially around Main Street

1335
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,400
and 7th Avenue. There's also a lot north

1336
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,440
of I26 near where Walmart is. There's

1337
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,240
also several south of downtown near

1338
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,160
where Spartanberg Highway is, especially

1339
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,960
around Engles and Publix. There's also a

1340
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,440
lot of incidents near nonprofits that

1341
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,280
provide resources to people experiencing

1342
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,440
homelessness. A lot around several

1343
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,319
vacant structures and a lot around sites

1344
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:40,240
that are geocoded as homeless sites,

1345
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,839
which are encampments that the city has

1346
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:44,160
dealt with in the past.

1347
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,000
So, now I'll go into the existing

1348
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,760
methods that the city uses to address

1349
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,240
encampments. The f first is code

1350
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,640
enforcement which particularly involves

1351
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,240
property maintenance specifically

1352
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,839
through the enumeration section of the

1353
00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:57,680
code of ordinance. This can include

1354
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,200
things such as having weeds or grass

1355
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,160
over 24 in accumulation of animal or

1356
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,000
vegetable matter, accumulation of

1357
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,799
undisposed trash and graffiti. The other

1358
00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:08,240
way that the city addresses it is

1359
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,000
through its police powers, which

1360
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,319
includes se enforcement of several

1361
00:56:12,319 --> 00:56:14,480
different ordinances, including blocking

1362
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,799
or impending street and sidewalk access,

1363
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:19,280
as well as trespassing, just to name a

1364
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,920
few. So, now we'll go into some new

1365
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,160
encampment policy options for you to

1366
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
consider and give guidance on. The first

1367
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,720
is an ordinance which focuses on camping

1368
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,880
on public property and the second are

1369
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,520
zoning ordinance amendments. Before we

1370
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,760
go too deep into these policies, I would

1371
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,520
like to give a quick overview of the

1372
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,799
current legal environment around

1373
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:41,440
encampments. So in 2024, the Supreme

1374
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,440
Court case grants pass v. Johnson

1375
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,880
established that local governments

1376
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,799
regulating encampments even when shelter

1377
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:48,880
space is unavailable is not considered

1378
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,960
cruel or unusual punishment per the eth

1379
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
amendment. Now there were several points

1380
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,880
of contention in the litigation that are

1381
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,720
important to note as they do show other

1382
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:58,319
ways in which camping ordinances could

1383
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:00,480
be challenged. This includes selective

1384
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,559
enforcement of camping ordrances and

1385
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,799
other camping regulations exclusively

1386
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:06,960
against people experiencing homelessness

1387
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,720
as well as barriers associated with

1388
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,200
shelterance as we've discussed before

1389
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
and policies cannot criminalize someone

1390
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,640
based on their status such as being

1391
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,799
homelessness based on the Robinson v

1392
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:19,280
California president. So now I'll do a

1393
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,400
quick overview of the current

1394
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,640
legislative environment on encampment

1395
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,720
specifically at the state level. So,

1396
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,480
back in July, the general assembly

1397
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,119
ratified House Bill 437, which

1398
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,960
establishes drug-free homeless service

1399
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,280
zones, increases penalty for drug use in

1400
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,119
these zones, and restricts local

1401
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,720
governments from allowing camping on

1402
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,960
their property. So, the governor vetoed

1403
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,520
the bill on July 8th, it is currently

1404
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,960
being reconsidered in the state

1405
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,280
legislature right now. While we don't

1406
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,839
know a 100% what they will do with the

1407
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:49,359
bill, specifically with regards to

1408
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:52,079
overriding it, the if the bill were to

1409
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,079
become law, we want the policies to be

1410
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,760
crafted

1411
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,440
and to ensure that they are complying

1412
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,079
with the new rules that HB437 would put

1413
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,799
in place. So, now I'll go into the

1414
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:05,280
potential impacts that HB437 would have

1415
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,799
on the city's current and future

1416
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,040
operations. The first thing it would do

1417
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,040
is create a state definition for public

1418
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,200
camping or sleeping, which the city

1419
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,040
could not allow on city-owned or

1420
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,200
city-controlled property. Where this

1421
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,559
makes things a little different, though,

1422
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:20,640
is that if the city wanted to set up a

1423
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,200
regulated encampment on its property, it

1424
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,599
would could, but it would need approval

1425
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,760
from the Department of Labor. And in

1426
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,359
this request to the Department of Labor,

1427
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:30,720
they would have the city would have to

1428
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,319
prove the following. that there was a

1429
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:34,799
lack of shelter bed availability and

1430
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,640
that the designated property was not

1431
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,960
next to an area zone for residential use

1432
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,640
would not negatively affect property

1433
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,960
values or child safety and meet certain

1434
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,680
public health and safety standards. So

1435
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,440
now we will go into the camping

1436
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,960
ordinance. So there are many

1437
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,720
municipalities across the state of North

1438
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Carolina that have specific policies to

1439
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,599
regulate camping on public property, but

1440
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,040
the city of Hendersonville currently

1441
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,440
does not have such an ordinance. So this

1442
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,520
would make it unlawful to camp or store

1443
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,839
personal belongings on cityowned or city

1444
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:06,079
controlled property. For the definition

1445
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,359
of camping, we recommend that the city

1446
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,440
use the state definition as provided in

1447
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,040
HB437

1448
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,200
to ensure compliance with state law

1449
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,880
should HB437 be enacted. So the city

1450
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,319
could choose to go further than this

1451
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:21,920
definition in how they define camping,

1452
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,839
but they could not go less than this

1453
00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:26,160
definition. So the definition according

1454
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,920
to HB437

1455
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,920
for public camping or sleeping is

1456
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,680
lodging or residing overnight in a

1457
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,680
temporary outdoor habitation used as a

1458
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,359
dwelling or living space and evidenced

1459
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:37,200
by the erection of a tent or other

1460
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,040
temporary shelter, the presence of

1461
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,960
bedding or pillows, or the storage of

1462
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,640
personal belongings or lodging or

1463
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,640
residing overnight in an outdoor space

1464
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,319
without a tent or other temporary

1465
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:48,240
shelter. The term does not include

1466
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,000
loding or residing overnight in a motor

1467
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,839
vehicle that is registered, insured, and

1468
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:53,359
located in a place where it may lawfully

1469
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:55,680
be used or camping for recreational

1470
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,440
purposes on property designated for

1471
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,680
those purposes. So, as far as

1472
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,400
enforcement goes for this ordinance, the

1473
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,720
ordinance we would need to be written to

1474
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,119
give PD discretion to enforce either

1475
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,920
civil or criminal penalties. So for

1476
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,480
first offenses, PD could issue a written

1477
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,880
warning or a criminal penalty if they

1478
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,960
felt that the encampment presented a

1479
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,640
significant public health or safety

1480
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,720
risk. And then for subsequent offenses,

1481
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,799
they could pro issue either civil or

1482
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,880
criminal penalties. And criminal

1483
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,240
penalties in this case would be a

1484
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,000
misdemeanor as provided in general

1485
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,480
statute 144. This is the statute that

1486
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,160
many local governments that have camping

1487
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,400
ordrances have used to regulate camping

1488
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,359
on [clears throat] public property

1489
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:39,680
specifically. So that ordinance was

1490
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,520
focused mostly on camping on public

1491
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,920
property while zoning ordinance on the

1492
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,000
other hand amendments on the other hand

1493
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,079
are focused on camping on private

1494
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,240
property. So camps are currently listed

1495
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,640
as a use in the zoning ordinance but are

1496
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,480
not clearly defined and because of that

1497
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,480
ambiguity camps could mean a lot of

1498
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,599
things. Are they summer camps? Are they

1499
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,160
recreational campgrounds? Do encampments

1500
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,839
fall under that? There's a lot of

1501
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:06,240
questions. And so to clarify this

1502
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,319
ambiguity, we recommend that the city

1503
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:10,079
look into the following zoning text

1504
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,319
amendments, which would be to define

1505
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:14,480
camps, create a new use called

1506
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,520
campgrounds that would be

1507
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,200
distinguishable from camps that

1508
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,760
encampments would fall under, and also

1509
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,920
establishing sanitation standards for

1510
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,640
camps and campgrounds. Examples of these

1511
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,079
specifically for campgrounds would

1512
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,240
include that they would need to have

1513
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,319
tables, refuge containers, flush

1514
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:33,040
toilets, bathing facility, and water,

1515
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,680
specifically running water. So, now I'll

1516
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,079
go into the specific definitions for

1517
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,319
camps and campgrounds. For camps, it

1518
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:42,000
would include establishments consisting

1519
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,839
of one or more permanent buildings, not

1520
01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:45,680
including recreational vehicles or

1521
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,839
mobile homes used periodically for

1522
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,760
temporary or seasonal accommodation of

1523
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,599
individuals, typically providing

1524
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,839
programmed activities, including outdoor

1525
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:55,440
recreational or educational

1526
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,440
opportunities. So a summer or

1527
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,000
recreational camp while campgrounds on

1528
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,839
the other hand would focus on any parcel

1529
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:03,760
or tract of land under the control of

1530
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,319
any person, organization or governmental

1531
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,400
entity where in sites are offered for

1532
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,400
the use of the public or members of any

1533
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,160
organization for the establishment of

1534
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
temporary living sites for two or more

1535
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,640
recreational vehicles or camping units.

1536
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,400
So campgrounds would have to have

1537
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,160
designated sites for tents or other

1538
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,920
temporary shelters. This is a definition

1539
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,680
that was borrowed and modified from the

1540
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,160
town of Indian Trail, North Carolina. So

1541
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,400
if an encampment was in a private

1542
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,359
property that was not where campgrounds

1543
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:33,200
were not allowed, it would be a zoning

1544
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,799
violation and if it wasn't an area where

1545
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:38,960
campgrounds were allowed, it would still

1546
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,559
have to meet certain public health and

1547
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,480
safety standards. So these are the

1548
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,400
policies that focus on regulating

1549
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,400
encampment. However, regulating

1550
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,559
encampment can only be a short-term

1551
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:52,720
solution to the issue of encampments as

1552
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,119
in the long run it will just simply move

1553
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:57,040
people around. There are additional

1554
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,720
opportunities to address encampments

1555
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,640
that should also be considered that get

1556
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,480
towards some of the contributing factors

1557
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,880
behind encampments. The first is to

1558
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,520
address the shelter accessibility

1559
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,160
issues in Hendersonville. This would

1560
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,920
involve looking at a lot of different

1561
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,240
shelter models to determine a more

1562
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,319
accessible model that is appropriate for

1563
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:18,960
Hendersonville as well as get providing

1564
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,839
more resources to help people who have

1565
01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:24,799
physical me and mental health challenges

1566
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:27,200
as well as substance abuse challenges.

1567
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,880
This could include things such as

1568
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640
establishing centralized wraparound

1569
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,799
services in which these resources would

1570
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:35,440
be located in one centralized location

1571
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,440
as well as leveraging relationships with

1572
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,880
local healthcare providers for a

1573
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,799
behavioral health urgent care or behing

1574
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:44,559
courts to direct people to mental health

1575
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:47,119
services. Another big part of this is

1576
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:48,559
encampment response which will

1577
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,640
specifically come through the developing

1578
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,400
an encampment response policy and

1579
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,799
standard operating procedures. The point

1580
01:03:54,799 --> 01:03:57,839
of this is to first ensure consistent

1581
01:03:57,839 --> 01:04:00,480
enforcement, two ensure that when the

1582
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,319
city is responding to encampments, they

1583
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:03,760
are treating people experiencing

1584
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,240
homelessness with dignity and respect.

1585
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,200
And three, to help build trust amongst

1586
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,440
people experiencing homelessness. And

1587
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,200
the last part of this is implementing

1588
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,599
the strategic housing plan. Ultimately,

1589
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:17,599
the goal to help people experiencing

1590
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:20,160
homelessness should be be to help them

1591
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,960
find a stable and affordable residence.

1592
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,280
And the strategic housing plans focus on

1593
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200
permanently affordable units for low to

1594
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,680
moderate income households is meant to

1595
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,079
help provide this opportunity so that

1596
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:34,079
people experiencing homelessness can

1597
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:37,920
have a safe a stable and affordable

1598
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,200
resident. And and so a lot of these

1599
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,520
policies are issues that the city will

1600
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,160
need to address and take a lead on, but

1601
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,319
they will require the city cannot do

1602
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:51,520
these opportunities alone. There will

1603
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,200
need to be help from the nonprofit

1604
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,599
community, the county, as well as state

1605
01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:58,240
and federal partners.

1606
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,400
So, that's all I have for my

1607
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,920
presentation, and I would now like to

1608
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,160
open up to the floor to any feedback or

1609
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,119
questions. Thank you very much.

1610
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:10,150
>> Thank you. All right, questions,

1611
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:10,160
» Thank you. All right, questions,

1612
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:15,910
comments.

1613
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,319
Ethan, so you would suggest that maybe

1614
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:20,799
looking at abandoned some of the

1615
01:05:20,799 --> 01:05:22,640
abandoned buildings that are around or

1616
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,480
properties in the city, maybe

1617
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,559
co-artnering with other organization and

1618
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,520
turning those into suitable housing for

1619
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,039
the unhoused.

1620
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:33,109
>> Yes, I think turning a lot of the vacant

1621
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:33,119
» Yes, I think turning a lot of the vacant

1622
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:35,839
structures into affordable housing units

1623
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:39,039
or would be a great opportunity to help

1624
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,280
people experiencing homelessness. I

1625
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,359
think there if we have a lot of vacant

1626
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:45,599
structures, potentially rehabbing those,

1627
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,039
especially through the home rehab

1628
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,440
program would be a great way to address

1629
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,280
that issue. Thank you for bringing that

1630
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,720
up.

1631
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,190
>> Thank you.

1632
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:55,200
» Thank you.

1633
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,309
>> Um my question is, is it appropriate to

1634
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:58,319
» Um my question is, is it appropriate to

1635
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,319
provide housing before you actually

1636
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:02,160
address the reason of the homelessness?

1637
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,359
because um if there are severe mental

1638
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:08,640
health issues and drug addiction,

1639
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,920
it to me it doesn't seem like providing

1640
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,599
housing will fix that part of it. So, I

1641
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:33,270
mean, I understand having a behold,

1642
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,039
fine and dandy, but that's not even

1643
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:39,440
remotely close enough. And so, um, what

1644
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,119
is a drug-free homeless zone? So,

1645
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:44,960
drug-free homeless zones are something

1646
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,880
that were crafted in HB437.

1647
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,520
If you want it, I do not have entirely

1648
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,480
know all of the details on the bill, but

1649
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,400
it is available on the general

1650
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,480
assembly's website. So, if you want some

1651
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,400
more information on that, it would I

1652
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,640
would recommend you take a look at that,

1653
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,640
especially as it continues to be

1654
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,400
considered in the general assembly and

1655
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,119
potentially considered for an o veto

1656
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:10,480
override.

1657
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,230
>> Thank you.

1658
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:12,240
» Thank you.

1659
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,880
It's 300 feet around a facility based

1660
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,359
service right now.

1661
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:22,230
>> Um Ethan, I just wanted to thank you for

1662
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:22,240
» Um Ethan, I just wanted to thank you for

1663
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,839
bringing this. It's really timely,

1664
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:28,160
especially with 437 in tox override. It

1665
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,920
has been a big conversation in the

1666
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,920
social services world and um I think

1667
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,880
it's important that we

1668
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,960
acknowledge that there are not enough

1669
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,559
beds right now. Yes.

1670
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:41,990
>> So, thank you for bringing it to us and

1671
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:42,000
» So, thank you for bringing it to us and

1672
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,440
thank you for doing the work on it. It's

1673
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,549
timely.

1674
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,640
» Ethan has worked very hard all summer on

1675
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,839
this and um lots of great information.

1676
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:53,839
information has probably been scattered

1677
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:56,720
around our building and he's coalesed it

1678
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,160
together um and has is going to leave a

1679
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,880
great um package for Jenny Floyd to move

1680
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,720
forward with um with our um homeless

1681
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,720
resource group that we have put together

1682
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,119
that include the nonprofits and and our

1683
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:13,920
shelters and and various other agencies.

1684
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,640
So, um it's been a good good work.

1685
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,030
>> Okay, any other questions? Oh, um, by

1686
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:19,040
» Okay, any other questions? Oh, um, by

1687
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,199
the way, thank you for bringing up Jenny

1688
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:23,120
Floyd. I want to say that thank you,

1689
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,359
Jenny, very much for being a big help

1690
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,279
with this project and all the work that

1691
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:28,960
you've been doing to address

1692
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,359
homelessness in the community. I hope

1693
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:32,880
that this project has been very

1694
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,960
informative for you and provides a good

1695
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,520
foundation for you as you continue to

1696
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,520
look at several of these policy

1697
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,359
approaches.

1698
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:42,789
>> You're welcome,

1699
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:42,799
» You're welcome,

1700
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:47,430
>> John. Um will RD behavioral be uh is

1701
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:47,440
» John. Um will RD behavioral be uh is

1702
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:48,640
part of that group?

1703
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,349
>> Yes, we we've had several they are

1704
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:51,359
» Yes, we we've had several they are

1705
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,440
invited as part of our group and their

1706
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:56,400
behavioral group does participate

1707
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,149
>> and there Thank you. Thank you again,

1708
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:58,159
» and there Thank you. Thank you again,

1709
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,960
Ethan. Yeah, I wish I was as intelligent

1710
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,040
as you were too.

1711
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,709
>> Thank you very much.

1712
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:04,719
» Thank you very much.

1713
01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:08,789
>> And pretty high. [applause]

1714
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:13,600
» Thank you. Um, and mayor, while we have

1715
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,159
the interns, uh, tomorrow is their last

1716
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:19,600
day. They'll be heading back to their

1717
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,040
maybe a little bit of vacation before

1718
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,880
they head back for their respective

1719
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,480
universities. But, um, we're going to

1720
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:26,000
take them to lunch. But, it's been a fun

1721
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,440
summer having these sharp, energetic,

1722
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:32,080
um, young folks. I was telling Council

1723
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,080
Member Baxter earlier, it's just really

1724
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,679
been a breath of fresh air in the

1725
01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:38,560
building. um and enjoyed um these two

1726
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,040
keeping us straight. Um they did not

1727
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,759
hold back at all. So um y'all did a

1728
01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:45,359
great job. Parents, you should be very

1729
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:48,400
proud of of

1730
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,070
>> Jules and I'm sure Ethan, I will tell

1731
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:50,080
» Jules and I'm sure Ethan, I will tell

1732
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,799
your parents that, too. [clears throat]

1733
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:55,750
>> Yeah. Well, I

1734
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:55,760
» Yeah. Well, I

1735
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,880
appreciate that we have the

1736
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,440
staff and the

1737
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,960
funding that we are able to sponsor

1738
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,239
interns.

1739
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:12,390
>> Um, not every city can do it and uh I

1740
01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:12,400
» Um, not every city can do it and uh I

1741
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,560
think we're very fortunate that we have

1742
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,640
this opportunity to have have these

1743
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,480
young folks with us. So,

1744
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:24,229
>> thank you.

1745
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:26,960
All right.

1746
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,560
Okay. We do have a couple public

1747
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,719
hearings. First one is an annexation.

1748
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:37,910
Merman Avenue.

1749
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Mr. Hayes going to do that tonight?

1750
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,830
>> Yes, I will. Um I hope it's just as

1751
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:43,840
» Yes, I will. Um I hope it's just as

1752
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,400
exciting as the intern presentation.

1753
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,239
I'll try my best. [laughter]

1754
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:49,830
>> You'll have to go a long way to

1755
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:49,840
» You'll have to go a long way to

1756
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,430
>> Yeah.

1757
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:51,440
» Yeah.

1758
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:53,920
Yes. Uh so the city has received a

1759
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,640
petition for a contiguous annexation on

1760
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,320
Marryiam uh road. Uh the petitioners are

1761
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,520
Greg Grooms. He's the applicant and Juan

1762
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,320
Borges is the owner of the property.

1763
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,640
It's located uh so it is a contiguous

1764
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,120
annexation. It's located at the very

1765
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,719
northern boundary of our uh city limits.

1766
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:16,400
Uh you can see it highlighted in red

1767
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,360
there. It's off of Asheville Highway. Um

1768
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,280
and uh the it's one lot and it is 0.5

1769
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,280
acres.

1770
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,080
Um and we have a motion for approval, a

1771
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,600
motion for denial, and then we have the

1772
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,600
annexation plat. And I'm happy to answer

1773
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,760
any questions.

1774
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,350
>> Anyone have any questions?

1775
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:37,360
» Anyone have any questions?

1776
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,550
>> No. Okay. Would the applicant like to

1777
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:40,560
» No. Okay. Would the applicant like to

1778
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,960
say anything?

1779
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,790
You don't have to, but

1780
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,280
if not. Okay. Um,

1781
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,960
Madame Clerk, has this public hearing

1782
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,560
been advertised in accordance with

1783
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,600
general statutes?

1784
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,790
>> Yes, Madam Mayor, it has.

1785
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:56,800
» Yes, Madam Mayor, it has.

1786
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,790
>> Okay. We'll open this public hearing. No

1787
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:58,800
» Okay. We'll open this public hearing. No

1788
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,320
one here signed up to speak. Is there

1789
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,360
anyone online seeking recognition to

1790
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,719
speak?

1791
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:08,229
>> No, Madame Mayor.

1792
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:08,239
» No, Madame Mayor.

1793
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:12,310
>> Okay. Last call. Anyone?

1794
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:12,320
» Okay. Last call. Anyone?

1795
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,800
Okay, we'll close that public hearing.

1796
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:22,790
Councel discussion or a motion.

1797
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,440
Madame Mayor, I move that city council

1798
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:26,960
adopt an ordinance of the city of

1799
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,640
Hendersonville to extend the corporate

1800
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,120
limits of the city as a continuous

1801
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,679
annexation to annex that property owned

1802
01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:37,440
by Warren Carlos Boes identified as PN

1803
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:40,159
9569-37-

1804
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,800
3239. finding that the standards

1805
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,400
established by the North Carolina

1806
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,640
General Stat 1608A-31

1807
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,000
have been satisfied and that the

1808
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,000
annexation is in the best interest of

1809
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,640
the city. Thank you. Is there any

1810
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,669
discussion?

1811
01:12:57,679 --> 01:13:00,320
Not those in favor of this annexation

1812
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,920
say I. I. I.

1813
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,870
>> Those opposed say no.

1814
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:04,880
» Those opposed say no.

1815
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,480
Eyes have it. Motion carries and uh that

1816
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:12,320
property is annexed. Thank you.

1817
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,719
All right. Next, we have a resoning, a

1818
01:13:14,719 --> 01:13:19,679
standard resoning of Ironwood Square.

1819
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:23,030
>> Yes. So, this is a an initial zoning and

1820
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:23,040
» Yes. So, this is a an initial zoning and

1821
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,679
the city has initiated this zoning. So,

1822
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:28,320
this was a property that was annexed um

1823
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,719
into the city at the last city council

1824
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:33,760
meeting, the July 2nd meeting. Um it is

1825
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,400
actually three properties located off of

1826
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,120
Case Street um which is very close to

1827
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,640
Upward Road.

1828
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,280
The applicant or sorry the owners are

1829
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,520
conserving Carolina and the children and

1830
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,280
family resource center of Henderson

1831
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,440
County. And then as I mentioned this is

1832
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:53,120
a city initiated initial zoning. It is

1833
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,880
87 acres and um the proposed zoning is

1834
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,000
C3 and the future land use designation

1835
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,280
for this area is mixeduse commercial. So

1836
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,920
here you can see uh two site photos. Um

1837
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,760
it's an undeveloped site um off of, as I

1838
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,520
mentioned before, off of Case Street.

1839
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,199
The um comprehensive plan staff found it

1840
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:19,360
to be and planning board uh recommended

1841
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,040
that it was consistent with the

1842
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,040
comprehensive plan uh mixeduse

1843
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,560
commercial um future land use

1844
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,440
designation. And um I'm not going to go

1845
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,199
through the rationale for that. That was

1846
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:32,560
provided in the packet. I'm happy to

1847
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,880
answer any questions about any of that.

1848
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,120
though. Um at the planning board meeting

1849
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,360
there was a discussion about um so staff

1850
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,040
uh has uh recommended C3 for this zoning

1851
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,520
district. We um aren't normally

1852
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,400
recommending C3. However, the adjacent

1853
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,239
property that is owned by the property

1854
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:55,280
the uh same property owners is currently

1855
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,920
zoned C3 and their plans are to combine

1856
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,320
those two properties. So it made sense

1857
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,760
um to recommend C3 in this case. Um, in

1858
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,320
other instances along Upward Road, we uh

1859
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,320
normally recommend CHMU, commercial

1860
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,640
highway mixed use. Um, and then at the

1861
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,080
planning board meeting, there was also

1862
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,880
discussion of uh potentially MIC uh

1863
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,120
which staff uh did not recommend because

1864
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,920
it would be uh we we thought it would be

1865
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,000
considered spot zoning. So ultimately,

1866
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,760
planning board uh did make the

1867
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,520
recommendation for C3 zoning. Um and

1868
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,280
here you can see the current zoning. So,

1869
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,199
it's um currently Henderson County

1870
01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:33,760
Community Commercial. Um and then you

1871
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,480
can see that C3 that's directly adjacent

1872
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,320
to the south of the subject property.

1873
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,640
Um and then uh we have a draft

1874
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,560
comprehensive plan consistency statement

1875
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,719
and then a draft reasonable statement

1876
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:48,640
rationale for approval or denial. And

1877
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,960
I'm happy to answer any questions.

1878
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,390
>> Any questions?

1879
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,520
No. Okay. Uh would the applicant like to

1880
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,270
say anything?

1881
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,159
All right. Uh, madame clerk, has this

1882
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:05,760
public hearing been advertised in

1883
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,199
accordance with general statutes?

1884
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:08,470
>> Yes, Madam Mayor, it has.

1885
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:08,480
» Yes, Madam Mayor, it has.

1886
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:11,270
>> We will open that p this public hearing.

1887
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:11,280
» We will open that p this public hearing.

1888
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,320
Um, no one here signed up to speak. Is

1889
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,400
there anyone online wishing recognition

1890
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:17,920
to speak?

1891
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,350
>> No, madame mayor.

1892
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:19,360
» No, madame mayor.

1893
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,110
>> Okay. Thank you. Anyone? All right.

1894
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:23,120
» Okay. Thank you. Anyone? All right.

1895
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,239
We'll close that public hearing. Council

1896
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:29,679
discussion or a motion.

1897
01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:31,669
>> Madame Mayor, I would like to recuse

1898
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:31,679
» Madame Mayor, I would like to recuse

1899
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:33,840
myself from the discussion and vote. The

1900
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,480
property owner is my employer.

1901
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:41,270
>> Okay. Is that a an acceptable reason? If

1902
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:41,280
» Okay. Is that a an acceptable reason? If

1903
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,800
someone would move to

1904
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,790
excuse

1905
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,560
Madame Mayor, I move that we excuse

1906
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,400
Council Member Baxter from this

1907
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,760
discussion and vote. Okay. Thank you. Is

1908
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,760
there any discussion?

1909
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,560
Not those in favor of excusing council

1910
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,679
member Baxter from the discussion

1911
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:07,120
say I. I. Those oppos say no. Eyes have

1912
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,030
it. Okay.

1913
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,280
» Anyone else?

1914
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,070
>> I'll enter a motion. Madame Mayor, I

1915
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:16,080
» I'll enter a motion. Madame Mayor, I

1916
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,440
move that city council adopt an

1917
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:19,040
ordinance amending the official zoning

1918
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,480
map of the city of Hendersonville,

1919
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,159
changing the zoning designation of the

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01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:27,189
subject property pins 9577-79-2337,

1921
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:30,630
9577-79-3365

1922
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,709
and 9577-79-4384

1923
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:37,040
from Henderson County Community to City

1924
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,520
of Hendersonville C3 Highway based on

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01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,600
the following. petition is found to be

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01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,560
consistent with the city of

1927
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,560
Hendersonville GenH comprehensive plan

1928
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,080
based on the information from the staff

1929
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,840
analysis and because the proposed zoning

1930
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,640
of C3 aligns with the GenH 2045

1931
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,320
comprehensive plan future land use and

1932
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,640
conservation map and the character area

1933
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,880
description for mixeduse commercial.

1934
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,480
Furthermore, we find this petition to be

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01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,000
reasonable and in the public interest

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,360
based on the information from the staff

1937
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,159
analysis, public hearing, and because C3

1938
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:05,840
would allow for greater economic use of

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,360
the subject property given the wide

1940
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,600
range of permitted uses and C3 zoning

1941
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,040
along this corridor could lead to

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,640
additional opportunities for commercial

1943
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,159
uses along a corridor that is seeing

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01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:15,920
moderate development pressure.

1945
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,870
>> Thank you. Is there any discussion?

1946
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,800
Not those in favor of this resoning say

1947
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,360
I.

1948
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,709
>> I. Those oppose say no. Eyes have it.

1949
01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:28,719
» I. Those oppose say no. Eyes have it.

1950
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:32,480
Motion carries and that resoning has

1951
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:37,910
been granted. All right. Thank you.

1952
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,520
New business. Okay. Strategic plan

1953
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:46,080
closeout fiscal year 24 to 26.

1954
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,560
Mr. Volley. Madame Mayor, members of

1955
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,800
city council, I'm here tonight to

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01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,440
present the closeout of the FY24 through

1957
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:56,880
FY26 strategic plan that closed on June

1958
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,480
30th of 2026 this year. Um, I do

1959
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:02,640
apologize about the quality of this

1960
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,199
presentation. Um, one of my co-workers

1961
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:07,280
significantly distracted me last week,

1962
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,804
so

1963
01:19:08,804 --> 01:19:09,679
[laughter]

1964
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:12,080
I've not been able to focus as much on

1965
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,640
the presentation I was thinking about uh

1966
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,284
before I heard certain news. Um

1967
01:19:19,284 --> 01:19:20,880
[laughter]

1968
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,030
>> uh the agenda for this evening uh I'm

1969
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:23,040
» uh the agenda for this evening uh I'm

1970
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,159
going to talk a little bit just about

1971
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:25,760
the plan structure of what this plan

1972
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,199
looked like right because it it is

1973
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:28,480
different than the current plan we're

1974
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:30,480
entering into. I'll go through just a

1975
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:33,760
highle overview of the plan completion

1976
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,199
um some highlights by each goal area uh

1977
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:39,600
importantly what was not achieved or

1978
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,000
cancelled or delayed um and then our

1979
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,480
next steps. Um so just a little bit

1980
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:45,760
about the plan structure. This was

1981
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,800
developed in the spring of 2023. So um

1982
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,560
over three years ago at this point we

1983
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,880
were at uh the police station and we

1984
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,320
were talking about different priorities

1985
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,239
and developing the plan for the next

1986
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,800
three years. Um and we adopted this plan

1987
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,000
with the FY24 budget and we ranked uh 10

1988
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,000
goal areas. Um I think it's important to

1989
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,280
note you know these plans um they change

1990
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,520
and they can change yeartoyear with

1991
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,360
different councils. they are a

1992
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,360
three-year look, but as you all know,

1993
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,480
right, there was different council

1994
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:15,840
members at the start of this plan than

1995
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,080
that are sitting on the board now. So,

1996
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,679
um I think it's just important to note

1997
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:21,440
that um and I appreciate all of the

1998
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:23,120
effort this council has put into the

1999
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,120
plan and the previous council members

2000
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,520
who supported it as well. Um our current

2001
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,760
breakdown is the city's vision, mission

2002
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,800
and values which the strategic plan

2003
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,520
tries to uplift and then all the other

2004
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,440
departmental plans, the comp plan, the

2005
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,360
budgets every year, our performance

2006
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,280
indicators and our goal tracking leads

2007
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,760
into that strategic plan. Um and then

2008
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,840
every um year we try to celebrate

2009
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,360
accomplishments. We had been doing these

2010
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,199
big um you know pieces of paper uh every

2011
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:53,760
three years and this was the one that um

2012
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,400
we had celebrated leading into the FY24

2013
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,440
through FY26 plan. Um just really some

2014
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:01,440
things to note back u when you go back

2015
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:04,239
five years is the completion of the U

2016
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:06,400
Hill reservoir. That that project really

2017
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,320
paid off during Hurricane Helen having

2018
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,560
10 million gallons of water available

2019
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:11,840
for our community. That's something that

2020
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,159
was set forth in a strategic plan uh

2021
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:16,960
over eight years ago. Um, and just kudos

2022
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,960
to the strong infrastructure work. We we

2023
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,199
focused on pay and benefits. You heard

2024
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:22,800
about all the Seventh Avenue work from

2025
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,520
Jules's presentation. Uh, and really,

2026
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,679
you know, we've been following this

2027
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:30,400
process and I I I hope it's been

2028
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,640
fruitful and successful for city council

2029
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,400
in advancing our community goals. Um, as

2030
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,840
a reminder of our vision and mission

2031
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,360
statement and our values that we have on

2032
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,360
the wall here, um, Hendersonville is a

2033
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,719
vibrant mountain city where government

2034
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:44,159
and citizens work together for a high

2035
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:45,840
quality of life. And we're committed to

2036
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,520
providing highquality, efficient

2037
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,440
services to all citizens, visitors, and

2038
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:51,520
businesses through open communication,

2039
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:55,440
timely responses, and quality results.

2040
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:58,320
So the plan at a glance um ultimately

2041
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,239
this plan had some you know we we've had

2042
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:02,320
co in the middle of plans before but I

2043
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,080
would dare to say that hurricane Helen

2044
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,400
was one of the largest disruptors since

2045
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,880
my time uh here with the city that has

2046
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,120
impacted a strategic planning process

2047
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,040
and and even though that came through

2048
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,760
and really um changed the way we were

2049
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,760
doing business and and what our focus

2050
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,400
and priorities were uh we still achieved

2051
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,000
76.8% 8% of our plan. Our stated goal

2052
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,440
out of the gate was to achieve at least

2053
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,239
70%. So I'm very happy to say that we

2054
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:30,159
have achieved more than our initial

2055
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,639
stated goal even considering the impacts

2056
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:34,400
of Hurricane Helen. And then a huge

2057
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,760
shout out to all the staff that helped

2058
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,080
me with this. All 167 items in the plan

2059
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,320
uh were 100% up to date by our staff at

2060
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,600
the end of the process. They update

2061
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,360
these quarterly and I couldn't thank

2062
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,800
them enough for all the work they do

2063
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,040
with that. Um, and off on the left you

2064
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,800
can just see the total number of items

2065
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,440
that were achieved, on track, off track,

2066
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:55,440
not started, not achieved, or canceled.

2067
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:56,960
And I'm going to go into those a little

2068
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,000
bit more detail. So, highlights by goal

2069
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,320
area. Um, ranked number one was public

2070
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,639
safety. Um, we achieved about 70% of

2071
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:06,000
those goals. Some of the bigger

2072
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,360
highlights were the hiring of our

2073
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,600
downtown police officer and installing

2074
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,840
downtown security infrastructure. We

2075
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,000
also installed a social worker

2076
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,920
co-responder in the police department to

2077
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,600
assess uh

2078
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,880
to help out with um supporting those in

2079
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,840
crisis. Uh we also installed the quick

2080
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,520
response vehic ve vehicle with the fire

2081
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,360
department to help preserve our fire

2082
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,760
apparatus and prolong their useful life.

2083
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,920
Uh we were averaging about 10 shifts per

2084
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,239
month uh with the QRV once we put it in

2085
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:36,400
service. So that is uh you know sending

2086
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,080
a smaller vehicle to some of these

2087
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,320
smaller medical calls that don't require

2088
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,239
a large apparatus when we have the

2089
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:45,840
staffing capacity to do so. Um, we also

2090
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,280
expanded a second code enforcement

2091
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,120
position and uh, if you notice around

2092
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,719
town, we're having a lot of activity

2093
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:52,159
with our code enforcement team. Really

2094
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:54,320
appreciate them and we have established

2095
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,040
a new vacant property registry that uh,

2096
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,320
different departments are contributing

2097
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:59,679
to the community development department

2098
01:23:59,679 --> 01:24:02,000
to maintain.

2099
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,239
Our second ranked goal was compensation,

2100
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:05,679
benefits, and staff development. We

2101
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:08,800
achieved about 93% of those items. Uh,

2102
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,320
this council has always been super

2103
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,159
supportive of our staff and it doesn't

2104
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:13,600
go unnoticed. We appreciate everything

2105
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,320
you do for our staff and uh over the

2106
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,199
years we've done career ladders. We've

2107
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:21,440
invigorated our performance pay program,

2108
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:24,320
implemented paying class studies, and

2109
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,199
have pursued a living wage um for all of

2110
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:31,040
our staff in the city of Hendersonville.

2111
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,719
Number three was strong infrastructure

2112
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:36,960
with 74.9% completion. Uh some really

2113
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,360
big highlights. We had zero SSOs or

2114
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,920
sanitary sewer overflows last quarter of

2115
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,679
the plan period. Uh we've completed near

2116
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:47,199
completion of all three of our water

2117
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:51,840
sewer master plans and um to John's

2118
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,320
point earlier, Timmy Hensley has uh

2119
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,280
completed near 98% of his work orders

2120
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,000
within 30 days that we've really focused

2121
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,639
especially in the past budget on hiring

2122
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:05,280
additional staff. So, um, when we were

2123
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,199
down in solid waste, we're not pulling

2124
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,719
from our other divisions in public

2125
01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:10,560
works, which is delaying their needed

2126
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:11,760
work that needs to get done for the

2127
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,000
city. Um, so that has worked out really

2128
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,920
well and we are seeing great success uh

2129
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,760
with that streets division. Appreciate

2130
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,639
Brent and the team. And then, uh, just,

2131
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:23,280
you know, a small generational project

2132
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,040
of expanding the water treatment plant

2133
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,120
to 15 million gallons, uh, daily um, and

2134
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,960
the, uh, construction of the French

2135
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,280
Broad River intake. That is uh nothing

2136
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,679
to sneeze at and it's a ton of hard work

2137
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:38,159
that our staff has put in and it really

2138
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:39,920
will benefit benefit the community for

2139
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,120
generations to come.

2140
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,800
The strategic housing plan was ranked

2141
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,440
number four. Uh thank you Angie for this

2142
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:48,960
one and thank you Lou. You know we have

2143
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,560
adopted the strategic housing plan

2144
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,800
council. You were a huge piece of this.

2145
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,800
Um we do have work to do on affordable

2146
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,639
units as we know but we are making

2147
01:25:56,639 --> 01:25:58,960
headway on the market rate units and

2148
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,120
we've also hired a housing planner uh

2149
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,159
with some of our ARP funds or sorry

2150
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:07,840
dogwood health trust funds.

2151
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,440
The fifth ranked was growth management

2152
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:11,040
and community character. Uh we achieved

2153
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,560
about 72% of that goal area. Big again

2154
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,040
generational type uh achievement was the

2155
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,639
adoption of the new comprehensive plan.

2156
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:21,600
A really robust planning process. We put

2157
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,199
ton of effort into get getting the

2158
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:25,520
community's input on that and we have a

2159
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,480
good guide now that is also influencing

2160
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,400
the development of our overlay districts

2161
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,760
and more specifically the downtown

2162
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,920
design overlay which you heard I believe

2163
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,960
in June of this year. Uh also uh the

2164
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,199
missing middle housing objectives that

2165
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:41,360
we established uh planning staff has

2166
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,360
done a really good job of diligently

2167
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,840
adopting zoning text amendments that are

2168
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,760
supporting the infill of missing middle

2169
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,920
housing. Some of those are minor PRD

2170
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,920
allowances, double density for half-unit

2171
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,760
allowances, and small lot provisions.

2172
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,600
So, kudos to the planning staff and

2173
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,199
thank you all for for pushing that

2174
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,679
forward. Those are not necessarily easy

2175
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:01,360
things to solve, and they've gotten

2176
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,840
really creative on how to go about uh

2177
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,520
implementing that for the future.

2178
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,280
Uh number six, invest in parks. This was

2179
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:10,800
the lowest. This is probably the most

2180
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,239
impacted by Hurricane Helen uh with 50%

2181
01:27:14,239 --> 01:27:16,560
achieved. Uh big kudos to Brennan

2182
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,480
Shanahan and the team on uh beginning

2183
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:19,600
construction of the Clear Creek

2184
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,520
Greenway. That was a a big one coming

2185
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,960
down to the wire at the end of the plan,

2186
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,639
but we got it rolling uh with some help

2187
01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:27,600
from our NPO chair uh co-chair and uh

2188
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,360
the money coming in to make that uh

2189
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,040
happen. So, thanks to everybody for

2190
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,159
that. That's going to be a great

2191
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,080
project. Uh we installed pickle ball

2192
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,080
courts at Patton Park. We've installed

2193
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,719
bike racks uh citywide. Um but the

2194
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:40,320
biggest thing is right, we deferred the

2195
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,600
parks bond I think just based on staff

2196
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,040
capacity at this point. That's probably

2197
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,280
a good thing. Um, we're really focusing

2198
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,280
on the transportation bond right now and

2199
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,520
we have brought the parks bond into the

2200
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,040
new strategic plan and we'll be looking

2201
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,320
at park improvements uh post hopefully

2202
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,320
FEMO awards to repair our parks.

2203
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,080
Uh, number se seven was enhanced

2204
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,320
sustainability citywide with 85%

2205
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,480
complete. Uh, we adopted a new tree

2206
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:08,719
ordinance here uh new sustainability

2207
01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:10,880
plan. We planted over a 100 trees

2208
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,560
annually which was double our stated

2209
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,280
goal of 50 trees annually and we have

2210
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,199
implemented a sustainable fleet policy.

2211
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:20,480
Number eight was transportation

2212
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,360
planning. Uh big one here. Uh we know in

2213
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,360
March we passed the general obligation

2214
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,040
bond for transportation projects. So

2215
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,440
that is well underway. I know some of

2216
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:30,880
you are more familiar with the first

2217
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,040
project than others, but uh if you're

2218
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,120
down on Bearecat Boulevard, you'll see

2219
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,040
um road and sidewalk improvements are

2220
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,320
hard at work. Uh and also uh King

2221
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,880
Street. I would be remiss to note this

2222
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,040
as the mayor has brought King Street up

2223
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,280
I think maybe for my uh first days on

2224
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:48,719
the job. I've been hearing about King

2225
01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:50,800
Street in our planning processes and

2226
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,480
that actually received some of the

2227
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,080
highest scoring in the recent spot

2228
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,400
scores. Uh and we do have money now set

2229
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,960
aside in the transportation bond to um

2230
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,320
hopefully implement that project.

2231
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,840
Uh number nine was city boards and

2232
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,239
volunteers with 75% of that area

2233
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:08,560
complete. A huge one. Shout out to Jenny

2234
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,520
Floyd for um and Jill Murray for really

2235
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,960
knocking out the core of the city

2236
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,480
academy. We had our first citizens

2237
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:17,040
academy this spring uh with 19 of the 20

2238
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,120
participants graduating from that class

2239
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,880
and we held four appreciation dinners

2240
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,800
for our boards and committees over the

2241
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,960
plan period.

2242
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,360
And lastly, support downtown businesses.

2243
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,480
We completed about 94% of these areas.

2244
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,120
Uh really big one um which I think you

2245
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,360
know kind of an unsung hero is our our

2246
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,120
downtown program. They're they do

2247
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,080
amazing work and a lot of times we not

2248
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,159
everyone I think notices how much

2249
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:43,920
they're actually doing. Some of these

2250
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,440
numbers I think are a real testament to

2251
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,840
their work. Uh we had opportunity fund

2252
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,520
loans that was established in this plan

2253
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,480
period which we distributed $1.2 million

2254
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:54,480
of loans to startup businesses in our

2255
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,800
downtown. Uh this was far exceeding the

2256
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,120
$100,000 target we set out to uh

2257
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,560
hopefully achieve at the start of the

2258
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,600
plan. Uh we also distributed $101,734

2259
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,920
in business support grants over the

2260
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,080
planned period uh ranging from facade

2261
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,400
grants, art grants, and pivot grants for

2262
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,639
local businesses. So uh kudos to our

2263
01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:16,239
downtown team. They do a ton of great

2264
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:18,719
work and they are hard at it right now

2265
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:21,440
this time of year.

2266
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:23,120
Uh so what wasn't achieved, right? This

2267
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,600
this is just as important as what was.

2268
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:30,080
Um, of the 167 items, 33 closed. The

2269
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,000
plan period is off track, not achieved

2270
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,719
or cancelled. Some of the bigger things

2271
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:37,280
are mostly related to Helen, but we also

2272
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,000
have some headwinds from uh regulatory

2273
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,440
challenges and just the status of um the

2274
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:45,040
ability for local governments to

2275
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,320
implement ordinance and regulation uh

2276
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,320
with current state uh oversight. And so

2277
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,000
uh the first of those was flood response

2278
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,600
and ordinance. We've talked a lot about

2279
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,920
that. We're still working on flood

2280
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,560
response procedures. However, we've kind

2281
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,679
of held off on pursuing any major flood

2282
01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:06,000
ordinance changes, awaiting to see kind

2283
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,679
of the mood at the legislature around

2284
01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:10,560
some of these changes. Uh, also we have

2285
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,239
not fully addressed motor vehicle

2286
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:14,239
accidents. We are still working on that.

2287
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:15,840
That's going that's a major part of our

2288
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,320
new plan period. And it's something that

2289
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,080
I think the transportation bond, our

2290
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,320
traffic unit teams, and the work that

2291
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,040
Brent's team is doing on analyzing

2292
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,239
intersections, which you'll hear about

2293
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:28,239
later on tonight, of how to address

2294
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:29,600
these motor vehicle accidents we're

2295
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,679
having in our community. Uh the other

2296
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,840
was housing entitlements, right? We just

2297
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,120
have not gotten enough affordable

2298
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:36,719
housing, but we have the housing plan.

2299
01:31:36,719 --> 01:31:37,920
We have the housing planner. We're going

2300
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,440
to continue to push that ball in the

2301
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:41,360
next plan. And then park investments

2302
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,880
obviously was the other largest area

2303
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,679
which um was predominantly damaged

2304
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:47,360
through Helen and we've been working to

2305
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,520
rebuild that.

2306
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,280
So with that um don't want to take too

2307
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,800
much time tonight. I do send the

2308
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,560
quarterly updates on the strategic plan

2309
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,800
and so I want you to know you have that.

2310
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,400
If you have questions about that or you

2311
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,920
want it in different formats, please let

2312
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:01,679
me know. Um and we'll continue to

2313
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:05,280
provide those to you as we move forward.

2314
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,430
>> Um I just have a comment. So the

2315
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:07,440
» Um I just have a comment. So the

2316
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:10,880
affordable housing piece um when we

2317
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:11,920
approve

2318
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,070
>> Oh, okay. Sorry. So when we approve a

2319
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:14,080
» Oh, okay. Sorry. So when we approve a

2320
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,920
market rate project that we include

2321
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,239
affordable units in

2322
01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:22,629
>> um just to point out we can still use

2323
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:22,639
» um just to point out we can still use

2324
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:26,080
that as a tool to kind of tick away at

2325
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,120
the affordable units. And so just

2326
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,560
hopefully using more of those

2327
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,719
opportunities when we have market rate

2328
01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,239
to

2329
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:36,480
require some of the affordable units to

2330
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:38,159
be a part of it, especially if the

2331
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:40,000
developer is willing to add affordable

2332
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,159
units. I think that's a discussion too

2333
01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:43,920
that we should definitely keep having.

2334
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,669
>> Yeah. And we're definitely working on

2335
01:32:45,669 --> 01:32:45,679
» Yeah. And we're definitely working on

2336
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:48,320
including that in our tracking um to

2337
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:49,840
ensure that we're not just classifying

2338
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,840
one development as a single type of

2339
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,280
category, right? There could be multiple

2340
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,199
categories in a single development.

2341
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:55,440
That's a

2342
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,629
>> great point.

2343
01:32:58,639 --> 01:33:00,719
else.

2344
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:02,320
Okay,

2345
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,960
thank you for keeping track of all of

2346
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,440
this for the regular updates that we've

2347
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:10,080
been getting and

2348
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,760
on to the next.

2349
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,030
>> Right.

2350
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:13,040
» Right.

2351
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,350
>> Thank you.

2352
01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:15,360
» Thank you.

2353
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:20,070
>> All right.

2354
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:24,000
Next uh discussion regarding 4th Avenue

2355
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,800
Halloween street closure.

2356
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,590
>> Mayor vault, members of city council. Um

2357
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:29,600
» Mayor vault, members of city council. Um

2358
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,760
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but

2359
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,120
that is my job tonight as it relates to

2360
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,960
um Halloween um street closure on on

2361
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,719
Fourth Avenue. Um stra uh several years

2362
01:33:42,719 --> 01:33:46,000
ago um the council was concerned about

2363
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,560
safety um due to the number of folks

2364
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,520
that were um trick-or-treating

2365
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,239
particularly on 4th Avenue and uh staff

2366
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:55,679
brought a recommend a couple different

2367
01:33:55,679 --> 01:33:58,159
recommendations to council um and

2368
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:01,840
council chose to um direct staff to do a

2369
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,440
partial closure um of 4th Avenue to try

2370
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:08,000
to provide at least some sense of safety

2371
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,239
on Fourth Avenue. Um it it worked. We

2372
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:14,320
have created this what I will call an

2373
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,719
attractive nuisance

2374
01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:19,920
um where people after we we have a full

2375
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,639
closure on Main Street and have a

2376
01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:24,239
trick-or- treat street and all the

2377
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:26,639
activities between the downtown group as

2378
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:30,159
well as um the um Henderson County Parks

2379
01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:32,320
and Recreation Department. And those

2380
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,000
folks enjoy that for a while and then

2381
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,800
they move on across Church Street down

2382
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:41,199
to 4th Avenue. Um, and it has become its

2383
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:45,199
own trick-or- treat street there. And,

2384
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:47,440
uh, the reason we did the partial

2385
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:50,000
closure, if you remember, is that staff

2386
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,800
capacity, barricade capacity, um, just

2387
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,960
capacity to have two large hall

2388
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,560
Halloween events um, was was not in our

2389
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,960
ability um, from our organ the size of

2390
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,440
our organization and activities going

2391
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:04,880
around the rest of the city, right? I

2392
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,159
mean, we still had to have police

2393
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:08,480
patrols throughout the rest of the city,

2394
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:11,600
plus fire and EMS had to be available.

2395
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,960
So, we did a partial closure where we

2396
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,040
closed the two ends of the of Fourth

2397
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,920
Avenue for about a mile and then we left

2398
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,760
the cross streets open with um limited

2399
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,400
barricading and VIPs so that we could

2400
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,480
try to control traffic there so that

2401
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:29,840
residents could get in and out of their

2402
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,280
homes. And if we needed to get emergency

2403
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,480
um apparatus or police or whatever

2404
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:39,120
through 4th Avenue, we could in a in a

2405
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,560
manner. Well, we have created this

2406
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,280
nuisance and um attractive nuisance.

2407
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,880
That's a good thing, I think. But um uh

2408
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,960
so many people are coming there. The

2409
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,800
state the police started looking at

2410
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,320
options

2411
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,280
to how do we control this that may could

2412
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,719
get out of hand because we were still

2413
01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:59,360
having vehicles drive down Fourth Avenue

2414
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:00,880
and we were worried about somebody

2415
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,239
getting hit or safety in that area. So

2416
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:06,320
we met with a variety of folks including

2417
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,080
our risk management group from the

2418
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,520
insurance company and we really

2419
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,679
determined that there were only two

2420
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:14,560
options for us. Um, one would be to do a

2421
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,280
com total complete street closure like

2422
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,679
we do on Main Street, not allow any

2423
01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:23,679
traffic for a period of time along um,

2424
01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:27,040
4th Avenue from Washington Street down

2425
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:32,560
to Valley Blle Valley

2426
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,360
down the valley or down to Ble closing

2427
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,880
all the cross streets and there's a

2428
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,639
number of intersections that don't line

2429
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:40,480
up going through there. So it provides

2430
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:42,320
some other challenges to completely

2431
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,719
close off the street. So it would take

2432
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:46,639
significant resources for us to do that.

2433
01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:48,960
So we insurance company said, "Hey, you

2434
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,080
got to do one of two things. You either

2435
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,960
got to have complete closure um of that

2436
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,040
area to to to really protect your

2437
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,159
liability and protect the citizens and

2438
01:36:58,159 --> 01:36:59,840
and

2439
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,400
you know to to deal with this attractive

2440
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,159
nuisance or you're going to have to get

2441
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:06,159
out of the Fourth Avenue street closure

2442
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:08,880
business." and staff has evaluated and

2443
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,280
looking at cost in those thing and we

2444
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,840
just bearer of bad news we just don't

2445
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,679
have the capacity to do a complete

2446
01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:18,159
street closure also I'd be concerned

2447
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,880
that if there's a medical emergency on

2448
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,199
4th Avenue at a residence that the

2449
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:25,119
public that we couldn't get fire and

2450
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:27,119
police and EMS apparatus in there quick

2451
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:30,239
enough to deal with that emergency. So,

2452
01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:33,679
um staff comes to you as the manager

2453
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:35,280
comes to you with the bear of bad news

2454
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,840
tonight. um with the recommendation that

2455
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,800
we um end discont continue any closure

2456
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,880
whatsoever. It was never meant to be a

2457
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,320
city event. Um it was meant to be a a

2458
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:51,360
city um resident kind of partnership and

2459
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,440
at this point I think um I'm going to

2460
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:55,440
have to ask that we cease our

2461
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:57,760
involvement in it. Realize that not

2462
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,320
everybody will get the word between now

2463
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,719
and Halloween. So, I would propose to

2464
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:05,520
you that we we discontinue any closure

2465
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,119
portion of this. However, that we

2466
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:10,159
utilize our message board um at the

2467
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:14,960
Washington Street end um of 4th Avenue

2468
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,440
as a reminder of folks that it is a

2469
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,119
congested area. There will be a number

2470
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,920
of trick-or-treaters encourage people to

2471
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,639
use the sidewalks and also talking to

2472
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:26,239
the chief and the police department that

2473
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:30,320
we um provide for uh police officers

2474
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,239
like we typically do in this area just

2475
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:35,119
to as we phase away from any kind of

2476
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:37,440
street closure. So that is where we are.

2477
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,760
That is our recommendation. Um this is a

2478
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,840
council decision but that is our that is

2479
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,400
our recommendation since you directed us

2480
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:51,189
to begin with. council.

2481
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,629
Any discussion

2482
01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:57,760
for a motion?

2483
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,189
>> Madame Mayor, I move that the city

2484
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:59,199
» Madame Mayor, I move that the city

2485
01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:00,880
council discontinue the 4th Avenue

2486
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,320
Halloween street closure. Thank you. Is

2487
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,600
there any discussion?

2488
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,719
Not those in favor of the motion to

2489
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:14,400
discontinue the street closure say I. I.

2490
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,199
Those oppose say no. Eyes have it.

2491
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:20,719
Motion carries. And uh we'll not

2492
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:23,600
continue with that. Good intentions

2493
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,920
don't always work out the way we'd like

2494
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,149
them to.

2495
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:32,320
» Okay. Next, approval of on street

2496
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,320
parking signage and pavement marking

2497
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,920
plan for South Whitted and Jordan Street

2498
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,840
4th Avenue acousta trail intersection.

2499
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,920
Mayor Council

2500
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,600
here to present something much less

2501
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:50,310
controversial.

2502
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,920
» So, uh, so the city engaged, uh, McAdams

2503
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,560
Company, formerly TPD, who we've worked

2504
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,639
with over the years to evaluate traffic

2505
01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:00,960
parking, multimodal safety conditions

2506
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,239
along Southwitted and at Jordan and

2507
01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:06,560
Fourth Avenue intersection adjacent to

2508
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,280
the acoustic trail. I don't want to say

2509
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,840
it's a an attractive nuisance, but the

2510
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,520
Acusa Trail opened last summer and it

2511
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,960
has brought uh some definite um areas

2512
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,960
where we saw that uh there needed to be

2513
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,000
some safety traffic safety improvements.

2514
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,800
Um there was on street parking uh

2515
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,840
previously along Southwitted.

2516
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,760
our public safety folks came to our uh

2517
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,960
to public works folks about a year or so

2518
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,360
ago and asked um if we could post uh

2519
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,600
some no parking signage out there. We

2520
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,119
did and since then we've uh we've worked

2521
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,239
on a plan with McAdams to uh to come up

2522
01:40:50,239 --> 01:40:52,000
with something

2523
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,639
a little in between uh where we are

2524
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:56,960
allowing parking on one side of the

2525
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,239
street. Um, like I said, McAdams put

2526
01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:01,840
together a plan. I'll go over some of

2527
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,920
the highlights here in a second. Uh, why

2528
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,239
it matters. Motor safety, bicycle

2529
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:08,719
connectivity with the acousta trail, and

2530
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:12,639
obviously pedestrian trail safety.

2531
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:14,960
Uh, real quick, uh, Brent Pope and his

2532
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,199
team, uh, Brent and Jeremy were here

2533
01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:19,040
earlier from our traffic engineering

2534
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,400
group, uh, division. Uh, they did a

2535
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,040
speed study in July, July 8th through

2536
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,639
the 15th. I unfortunately I apologize I

2537
01:41:28,639 --> 01:41:31,840
have the labels mixed. So southbound is

2538
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,560
actually on the left side and northbound

2539
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,040
is on the right. But you can see that

2540
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,000
the um posted speed limit in each

2541
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,760
direction is 25. The 85th percentile

2542
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,239
which is a a factor that goes into a lot

2543
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:49,760
of our when it comes to traffic calming.

2544
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,760
Uh right now our current traffic calming

2545
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,679
policy says if you're 10 miles over um

2546
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:58,239
that triggers looking into some traffic

2547
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:00,080
calming measures. So you can see from

2548
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,199
the northbound on the right side should

2549
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:06,880
be northbound. Uh we're close to the 10

2550
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,320
mph average speed of about 30 miles per

2551
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:15,119
hour. Uh vehicles over that limit uh 86%

2552
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:18,000
and the AAD is another traffic

2553
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,560
engineering term. It's uh annual average

2554
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:24,480
daily traffic uh which is basically we

2555
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:27,199
we count count cars for about a week or

2556
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:29,440
so at a time and we project that we

2557
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:32,000
interpolate that number over a year and

2558
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,679
then divide by 365. And so ballpark

2559
01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:38,239
you're seeing about 670

2560
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:41,520
vehicles or so in each direction. I did

2561
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,480
want to point out it's not on here but I

2562
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:47,280
jotted down some notes um from the

2563
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,239
report. The max speed in either

2564
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:53,280
direction uh was about 50 miles per

2565
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:58,400
hour. So, um we were out there uh uh

2566
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,320
Brendan and I were out with the with the

2567
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,679
engineer from McAdams um

2568
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:07,199
uh several weeks ago and we probably saw

2569
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:09,600
somebody that was going 50 miles an hour

2570
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,920
uh coming down the hill there. So, um,

2571
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,159
and I did want to point out, you'll see

2572
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:16,880
here, I'll have a a diagram here in a

2573
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:20,400
sec. Uh, but Hebrin, uh, which is a DOT

2574
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:24,080
road, which is, uh, um, witted spits out

2575
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,880
onto on its south end. Um, it is at

2576
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,320
about 3,000 AAT.

2577
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,560
So, in comparison, about five times the

2578
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,960
amount of traffic.

2579
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,239
Um key improvements for Southwitted

2580
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:42,800
revised on street parking updated the

2581
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,480
sherros which is the bicycle uh uh

2582
01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:50,639
vehicle shared lane marking uh advanced

2583
01:43:50,639 --> 01:43:52,639
warning signage trail crossing

2584
01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:54,800
visibility. We've actually cleared some

2585
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,360
vegetation around an existing sign that

2586
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,960
was there that was perhaps blocking uh

2587
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,679
uh motorists being able to see the stop

2588
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:06,800
sign at the trail or near the trail.

2589
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,719
um speed limit uh reinforcement signage

2590
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:13,440
and then I'll talk about potentially

2591
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:15,679
some traffic calming for future

2592
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:17,199
consideration.

2593
01:44:17,199 --> 01:44:23,199
So hopefully this works okay. Um so

2594
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:25,440
I should have made that bigger. Um so at

2595
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:29,920
the south end um you've got Hebrin. We

2596
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,840
I'll just go over kind of the

2597
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,760
highlights. So, we are going to add

2598
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,239
there is currently no crosswalk painted

2599
01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:38,800
on that end. So, we are proposing to add

2600
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,000
a crosswalk and then it's I apologize

2601
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,040
it's pretty hard to see at that uh

2602
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,679
screen or at that level, but we would

2603
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:50,800
paint a kind of tri triangular areas and

2604
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,600
and get in this would be three parking

2605
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:58,159
spaces here. Um and then also do the

2606
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:01,440
same here. So have plenty of space to uh

2607
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:04,000
you know around the drives that are on

2608
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,679
the west side of Witted. And then um

2609
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:11,520
this would be a total of I want to say

2610
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,320
uh I think that's 13

2611
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:20,400
uh it's six 16 spaces on on this on this

2612
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,840
end as you get closer to Linux Park

2613
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,280
Drive. Um some other highlights. Stop me

2614
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:28,960
at any time if you have any questions.

2615
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,840
Uh, some other highlights, uh, obviously

2616
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,760
we'll remove the no parking signs that

2617
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,600
are out there currently on that side of

2618
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,400
the street. We will add a no parking.

2619
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:43,840
It's flipped upside down. Um uh but uh

2620
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,639
these traffic engineers uh the no

2621
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:49,920
parking sign uh or no parking anytime

2622
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:51,920
with the arrow, you know, clearly

2623
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,320
designated that uh you're not to park

2624
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,199
beyond the area where we've got the uh

2625
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:00,239
where we've got the paintings or painted

2626
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:04,320
markings. There's also a uh a stop ahead

2627
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,560
that is uh that we'll be painting on the

2628
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:11,600
road. Um and then some uh a stop ahead

2629
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,520
uh sign

2630
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,920
and relocating some sherrows. Uh that

2631
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,000
was one thing that I missed on here. So

2632
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,920
some of the sheros would actually be in

2633
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,040
that parking lane if you will. We would

2634
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,520
shift the sher so it's very obvious that

2635
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,639
it's in the travel lane. Um and one

2636
01:46:30,639 --> 01:46:33,119
thing to note again apologize it's

2637
01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:35,679
really small. Uh but maybe you can see

2638
01:46:35,679 --> 01:46:37,119
it on your screens a little bit better

2639
01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:39,760
if you're looking. But uh what we'll

2640
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,000
have left for pavement would be about 16

2641
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,199
ft. So it' be about 8 foot travel lanes

2642
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:48,800
isn't unheard of around town.

2643
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,219
Um any questions on southwitted?

2644
01:46:51,219 --> 01:46:53,830
[snorts]

2645
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,719
I would I will say just to as it relates

2646
01:46:56,719 --> 01:46:59,840
to the speed 8 foot lanes will feel much

2647
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,080
tighter than what is there now which is

2648
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,920
a positive on slowing people as they go

2649
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,800
down that hill. So that is so

2650
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,109
>> yeah and I I'll mention it now because

2651
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:11,119
» yeah and I I'll mention it now because

2652
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:13,440
uh regarding the traffic coming because

2653
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:16,560
it applies to the to this project if you

2654
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,639
will. I'll get into the other project

2655
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:21,280
here in a second, but the plan would be,

2656
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,840
you know, the the striping is painted or

2657
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,159
this Yeah, the striping is painted. The

2658
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:28,239
the road will be striped, right? But

2659
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:30,400
that doesn't really it's not anything

2660
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,719
hard to kind of direct traffic.

2661
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:34,960
Hopefully, the vehicles abide by the

2662
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,880
striping if there is nobody parked

2663
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,880
there, right? But so if you've got times

2664
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,280
where there's nobody parked there, say

2665
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,600
trailides closed or early in the morning

2666
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,760
or whatever, you know, we hope that

2667
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,239
people actually follow the the markings

2668
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:50,560
and stay out of the uh out of the

2669
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:54,000
parking lane, if you will. Uh there's no

2670
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,159
guarantee. So what we'll do is we'll

2671
01:47:56,159 --> 01:47:58,159
kind of assess things, particularly as

2672
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:01,360
the fall comes up and as we go into

2673
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,239
winter, and maybe assess it over a

2674
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:05,679
couple different time periods. So, kind

2675
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:08,000
of a busy busier time and then maybe a

2676
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,400
slower time over the winter. Do some

2677
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,520
speed um counts and see if we've

2678
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,520
actually helped to kind of reduce the

2679
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:21,119
speeds in the area. Um, and if we

2680
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:23,440
haven't, we may come back to you at some

2681
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:25,920
point and want to make some of those

2682
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,000
those bulb out areas, those painted

2683
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,639
areas, maybe maybe harden them with

2684
01:48:30,639 --> 01:48:34,639
curving, which we could do um with your

2685
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:36,880
approval, of course.

2686
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,600
Uh, Jordan and fourth. Um, this one is

2687
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,520
really really um kind of confusing if

2688
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,920
you've been through there. Um, we're

2689
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:47,440
talking about an all-way stop

2690
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:49,520
conversion, advanced [snorts] warning

2691
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,960
signage, and trail crossing protection.

2692
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:58,560
And, um, this one, so as it stands, uh,

2693
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,159
there is not a stop coming south on uh,

2694
01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:04,800
Jordan to fourth until you get to the

2695
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,679
trail itself. So,

2696
01:49:07,679 --> 01:49:09,679
um, so basically what you have is you've

2697
01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:12,719
got folks coming through here. People do

2698
01:49:12,719 --> 01:49:15,600
stop on fourth. I guess this is midway

2699
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,440
on this side, but people do stop at

2700
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,239
either side here, but they're kind of

2701
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:22,320
confused if somebody's coming up on the

2702
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,639
trail. There's basically just general

2703
01:49:24,639 --> 01:49:27,199
confusion there. It's not an ideal

2704
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:30,239
scenario even for, you know, we kind of

2705
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:32,080
went back and forth with the traffic

2706
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,560
engineer. Brandon and Chris had some

2707
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,600
good feedback and we came up with a kind

2708
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,280
of a a joint solution to post this as an

2709
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,880
all-way stop in all directions including

2710
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,760
the trail. So So really what you'll have

2711
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:49,840
is, you know, we'll be adding that's why

2712
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,440
they're in red. We'll be adding the

2713
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:53,679
hallway to the stop signs that are

2714
01:49:53,679 --> 01:49:56,480
currently there at Midway and Fourth.

2715
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:58,320
And we'll add a stop sign with the

2716
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:03,760
hallway and then a stop ahead um on um

2717
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:07,440
Jordan coming south.

2718
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:09,119
So,

2719
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:11,199
and hopefully that will, you know, this

2720
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:13,600
is not I didn't we don't have I didn't

2721
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:17,040
pull the ADT the the counts for this

2722
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,119
area. It's not a very heavily traveled

2723
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:21,199
area, but um hopefully this will

2724
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:22,880
alleviate some of the some of the

2725
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,880
confusion that's out there. Um be happy

2726
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,800
to go back and look at any of that

2727
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,159
again. We've got a motion. It's here for

2728
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:36,960
your benefit. Um and um this there's a

2729
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:38,719
resolution that goes with it. Obviously,

2730
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:41,199
it's referred to in the motion. and it

2731
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:43,920
would approve the signage and signing

2732
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,880
and payment plan. Um, authorize city

2733
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,760
manager or designate to actually install

2734
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,679
the devices coordinated to MUTCD

2735
01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:56,239
and then direct staff to update our

2736
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:58,880
official traffic control and parking map

2737
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:03,520
which is currently in progress.

2738
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,149
>> Will you go back to south witted

2739
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:06,159
» Will you go back to south witted

2740
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,910
>> to wed?

2741
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:14,790
Okay. So,

2742
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,800
um,

2743
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,639
you said we're going to take the plan is

2744
01:51:18,639 --> 01:51:20,800
to take down the no parking signs that

2745
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,960
are on the opposite side of the street

2746
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,109
>> on the on the west side.

2747
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:25,119
» on the on the west side.

2748
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:25,990
>> Okay.

2749
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:26,000
» Okay.

2750
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,590
>> We're going to keep them on the east

2751
01:51:27,590 --> 01:51:27,600
» We're going to keep them on the east

2752
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:28,159
side.

2753
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:28,870
>> Okay. Gotcha.

2754
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:28,880
» Okay. Gotcha.

2755
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:29,350
>> Yeah.

2756
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:29,360
» Yeah.

2757
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:29,750
>> Um,

2758
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:29,760
» Um,

2759
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,709
>> yeah. The um Yeah, this that in the

2760
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:32,719
» yeah. The um Yeah, this that in the

2761
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:35,280
center of the circle here, that's

2762
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,119
leadering and that that leader or that

2763
01:51:37,119 --> 01:51:38,880
arrow is going to the east side. So,

2764
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,880
it'll it'll remain no parking on the

2765
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:41,599
east side.

2766
01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:45,350
>> Okay. And then will there be center

2767
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:45,360
» Okay. And then will there be center

2768
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,960
lines painted?

2769
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,910
>> No. Um it's really the street it's a

2770
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:49,920
» No. Um it's really the street it's a

2771
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,239
local road. It's really too narrow to

2772
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:53,360
paint.

2773
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,870
>> Um like a double yellow. We are really

2774
01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:56,880
» Um like a double yellow. We are really

2775
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,520
hard to see. Um I'd be happy to get you

2776
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,440
all, you know, I could print something

2777
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:05,280
larger and get it to you all. Um or or

2778
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,320
send everyone an email. um because it is

2779
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,400
really hard to see there. Our plan is to

2780
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:14,480
paint a double yellow as you turn on to

2781
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:16,400
uh say if you're coming from Hebrin in

2782
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,760
either direction and turning on to u

2783
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,719
southwitted. So it's very very obvious

2784
01:52:22,719 --> 01:52:25,760
where the lane is where the northbound

2785
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:26,560
lane is.

2786
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:27,830
>> Okay. Gotcha.

2787
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:27,840
» Okay. Gotcha.

2788
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,310
>> So but that that line would only go so

2789
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:30,320
» So but that that line would only go so

2790
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,000
far. I my eyes aren't good enough to to

2791
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,760
see the dimension on that, but it's only

2792
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,920
going to go so so far down.

2793
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,310
>> Okay.

2794
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:40,320
» Okay.

2795
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:44,229
>> Does that Does that make sense?

2796
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:44,239
» Does that Does that make sense?

2797
01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:46,390
>> Yes, it makes sense that that is the

2798
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:46,400
» Yes, it makes sense that that is the

2799
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,400
plan. Why? It's only it's only going

2800
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,280
down so far so that it directs traffic

2801
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:52,960
flow and then people will

2802
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,790
>> Yeah, just go to

2803
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:54,800
» Yeah, just go to

2804
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,189
>> because here here the road is still as

2805
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:57,199
» because here here the road is still as

2806
01:52:57,199 --> 01:52:59,119
wide as it is now, right? Yeah, I got

2807
01:52:59,119 --> 01:52:59,280
you.

2808
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:00,870
>> And the parking does, we can't have

2809
01:53:00,870 --> 01:53:00,880
» And the parking does, we can't have

2810
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:03,040
parking, you know, right up to apron.

2811
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,440
There's got to be a transition. So, in

2812
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:07,840
that transition area, you know, where

2813
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,760
the where kind of the triangle is

2814
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:10,800
painted,

2815
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,709
>> the double yellow will designate the

2816
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:12,719
» the double yellow will designate the

2817
01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:14,159
lanes.

2818
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:16,310
>> So, you don't have people turning on

2819
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:16,320
» So, you don't have people turning on

2820
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,760
from Hebrin into, you know, oncoming

2821
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,080
traffic.

2822
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:26,629
>> Cool. Thank you.

2823
01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:29,360
» Any other questions? Good question.

2824
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:30,950
>> No, this is great because I know

2825
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:30,960
» No, this is great because I know

2826
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,440
business owners down there, residents

2827
01:53:33,440 --> 01:53:37,520
and trail users have all been concerned.

2828
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:38,159
So,

2829
01:53:38,159 --> 01:53:39,350
>> Yep.

2830
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:39,360
» Yep.

2831
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:39,830
>> Thank you.

2832
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:39,840
» Thank you.

2833
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,149
>> There may be more of these coming, too.

2834
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:42,159
» There may be more of these coming, too.

2835
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:49,189
>> Yeah. We figured

2836
01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:51,599
» All right. Thank you.

2837
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:54,470
>> Council discussion

2838
01:53:54,470 --> 01:53:54,480
» Council discussion

2839
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:56,800
or a motion.

2840
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,320
Madame Mayor, I move that city council

2841
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,159
adopt a resolution approving the signing

2842
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:02,080
of pavement marking plan and associated

2843
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:03,679
on street parking regulations for

2844
01:54:03,679 --> 01:54:06,080
Southwood Street and the Jordan Street

2845
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,000
Fourth Street Acousta Trail intersection

2846
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,199
as presented.

2847
01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:13,750
>> Thank you. Is there any discussion?

2848
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:13,760
» Thank you. Is there any discussion?

2849
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,040
Not those in favor of the resolution say

2850
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:17,599
I.

2851
01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:20,709
>> I. Those oppos say no.

2852
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:20,719
» I. Those oppos say no.

2853
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:23,910
>> Eyes have it. And we hope that that will

2854
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:23,920
» Eyes have it. And we hope that that will

2855
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,040
help. May not cure things, not do

2856
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:31,199
anything cure it, but help it. Uh, next,

2857
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:35,599
proposed utility billing policy changes.

2858
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:40,719
Okay. Latest update on this one.

2859
01:54:40,719 --> 01:54:42,470
>> Good evening, Madame Mayor and members

2860
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:42,480
» Good evening, Madame Mayor and members

2861
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,440
of council. I'm here tonight to do a

2862
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,920
follow-up presentation from the July

2863
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,599
22nd council meeting. And I know really

2864
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:53,920
I just want to get feedback from you

2865
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,159
guys and direction and answer any

2866
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:57,760
questions that you might have. And I do

2867
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,040
have a few updates um since the last

2868
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,360
presentation as well. So I'm going to do

2869
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,560
just a quick summary just as a recap of

2870
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,360
what we discussed on the July 22nd

2871
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:13,119
meeting. The recommended policy changes

2872
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:16,719
that we would like to see are the first

2873
01:55:16,719 --> 01:55:18,639
one is the property owner and tenant

2874
01:55:18,639 --> 01:55:22,400
responsibility. So, this is going to be

2875
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,599
a lot with our contract updates with the

2876
01:55:25,599 --> 01:55:28,080
customer. And what we're trying to do is

2877
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,320
hold the owner or the tenant liable to

2878
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,480
pay the unpaid balance on the prior

2879
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,639
account before the new service can start

2880
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:36,639
at another address. So, right now, when

2881
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:40,000
they stop service at that address, they

2882
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:43,440
can go open up a new account and they

2883
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,520
don't have to pay their prior balance.

2884
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,920
So, we're wanting to change the contract

2885
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,080
language on that so that we can hold

2886
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,159
that owner or that tenant responsible

2887
01:55:52,159 --> 01:55:54,480
for that before they start service at

2888
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,520
another address. And then also, when

2889
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,480
they put in to cancel service at that

2890
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,080
address,

2891
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,159
we want to be able to transfer

2892
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:06,480
automatically back to the owner. So, if

2893
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,960
the tenant leaves service, we get a

2894
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,280
cancellation for service, we want to be

2895
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,760
able to automatically transfer that

2896
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,400
service into the owner's name until they

2897
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,199
find another tenant. But the owner is

2898
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:20,800
not going to be responsible for the

2899
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,040
prior uncollected balance on the tenant

2900
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,119
account. They will only be responsible

2901
01:56:25,119 --> 01:56:27,760
once the service gets changed into their

2902
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,400
name. And then the other thing is that

2903
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:33,679
we want to um not have an owner deposit

2904
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:35,599
required for non-owner occupied

2905
01:56:35,599 --> 01:56:38,560
property. The second thing that we're

2906
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,400
recommending is to reduce the

2907
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,639
disconnection timeline.

2908
01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:44,719
We want to reduce the days of exposure

2909
01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:48,639
from 96 to 68 days. This is basically

2910
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:51,360
the time between the previous reading

2911
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,159
for for the bill that the customer is

2912
01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:56,080
being cut off for up until the day

2913
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:57,840
service is terminated. that makes up

2914
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,000
your full days of exposure and that's a

2915
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,159
liability for the city as far as

2916
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:05,199
collection goes. And we are recommending

2917
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:08,080
that we change the disconnection date by

2918
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,639
four weeks earlier rather than at 8

2919
01:57:10,639 --> 01:57:13,679
weeks. And then the third thing is we

2920
01:57:13,679 --> 01:57:15,280
want to update the leak adjustment

2921
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,599
policy. So to do that, we're going to

2922
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:19,119
define preventable versus

2923
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:22,239
non-preventable leaks. Preventable leaks

2924
01:57:22,239 --> 01:57:25,119
are not eligible for adjustment. We're

2925
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:27,520
wanting to change so that we allow one

2926
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,080
adjustment every 24 months. Previously,

2927
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,800
it was 36 months. And then we want to

2928
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,639
increase the maximum adjustment from

2929
01:57:34,639 --> 01:57:37,280
1,000 to $3,000.

2930
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,280
And also, we'll require proof that the

2931
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,840
leak has been repaired. The fourth item

2932
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:43,760
is corrective billing and late fee

2933
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:46,080
policy updates. So, for billing

2934
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,560
corrections, we want to align that to be

2935
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:51,360
a two-year window on both sides. So, we

2936
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,840
want to be able to go back two years for

2937
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,080
if a customer is underbuild or two years

2938
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,960
if they're overbuild. Previously, we had

2939
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,199
two years if underbuild, but an

2940
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:04,159
indefinite amount of time if overbuild.

2941
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:06,560
And then the late fee penalty. I know

2942
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:08,800
last time there was a lot of questions

2943
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,679
about this. We are actually going to

2944
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:14,000
recommend something different tonight.

2945
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,760
Um, we are recommending so let's see.

2946
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:19,840
We're assessing one day after due date

2947
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,840
is what we would like to do and extend

2948
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,520
the due date by five days. But I'm going

2949
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,320
to go into that in more detail right

2950
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,320
now.

2951
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:31,599
So for the late fee assessment

2952
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:35,119
last presentation we recommended

2953
01:58:35,119 --> 01:58:39,280
option C up here and we said to keep the

2954
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,320
current due date and assess the late fee

2955
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,480
one day after the due date. So that

2956
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,360
gives them a total of 16 days to pay.

2957
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,400
And then there was feedback from you all

2958
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,960
that, you know, as an option, could we

2959
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,360
do a five-day grace period, which would

2960
01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:00,000
be keep the bill due date 15 days, but

2961
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,000
assess have a five-day grace period

2962
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,280
there, which would give 20 days to pay.

2963
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,199
We're after we've done a little bit of

2964
01:59:07,199 --> 01:59:10,800
research and we compared really across

2965
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,280
the state other municipalities and we

2966
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,760
also compared our peer group in the

2967
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,920
area. We actually would like to

2968
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,360
recommend now that we change our due

2969
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:24,080
date for our bills to be 20 days from

2970
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:28,000
the bill date and then assess a um late

2971
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:31,760
fee one day after. So, of our peer group

2972
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,400
here, three of our closest

2973
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,159
municipalities,

2974
01:59:36,159 --> 01:59:39,679
um, all do 20 days in next day late fee

2975
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:42,239
assessment. And then also, it's very

2976
01:59:42,239 --> 01:59:44,960
consistent throughout the state that

2977
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,599
most bills are being most of the bills

2978
01:59:47,599 --> 01:59:50,320
have a due date at around 20 days. Some

2979
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:54,400
of them do have 15, but I would say that

2980
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:57,599
most of the ones we looked at were very

2981
01:59:57,599 --> 02:00:00,080
aggressive in our due date currently at

2982
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,599
15 days. Um, so we would like to

2983
02:00:03,599 --> 02:00:07,040
recommend that we change the bill due

2984
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,639
date to be 20 days and then do a one day

2985
02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:15,030
after late fee assessment.

2986
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:17,040
» I don't know. Does anybody have thoughts

2987
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:17,920
on that or

2988
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,390
>> I think that's a great idea. Okay. Same.

2989
02:00:20,390 --> 02:00:20,400
» I think that's a great idea. Okay. Same.

2990
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,030
>> Yeah, I think that's a good compromise

2991
02:00:23,030 --> 02:00:23,040
» Yeah, I think that's a good compromise

2992
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,440
and it and it keeps people closeish to

2993
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,280
what they're used to now. So there won't

2994
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,199
be such a

2995
02:00:29,199 --> 02:00:32,080
reshuffleling of finances around what

2996
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:33,520
time in the pay period they need to

2997
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:34,480
think about it.

2998
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,189
>> Yeah. I think it's less confusing too.

2999
02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:37,199
» Yeah. I think it's less confusing too.

3000
02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:37,910
>> Yeah.

3001
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:37,920
» Yeah.

3002
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:39,589
>> And there was a time too like there was

3003
02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:39,599
» And there was a time too like there was

3004
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:42,080
a maybe a few years ago where the

3005
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,080
printing or something got off. I mean, I

3006
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:45,760
know a lot of people are on like the e

3007
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:46,960
billills now,

3008
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,310
>> but there was a period where we were

3009
02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:48,320
» but there was a period where we were

3010
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:51,360
getting our water bill in the mail and

3011
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:54,000
it was literally due like within two or

3012
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:55,040
three days. And I know there was some

3013
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:56,320
kind of a print vendor issue or

3014
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,080
something I feel like, but I feel like

3015
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,440
that kind of also gives a bit of a

3016
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:00,880
buffer in case people are still getting

3017
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:04,080
paper bills. So, I think it's great.

3018
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:05,910
>> I appreciate y'all going back on that

3019
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:05,920
» I appreciate y'all going back on that

3020
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,920
and find another

3021
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:11,430
>> Yeah. And really it still is it's not

3022
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:11,440
» Yeah. And really it still is it's not

3023
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,159
changing anything as far as our days of

3024
02:01:14,159 --> 02:01:15,920
exposure. And that was the most

3025
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,840
important thing to us is that we don't

3026
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,360
that we do better on our days of

3027
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,080
exposure and don't expand that. So by

3028
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:24,159
doing that option, we're not changing

3029
02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:26,080
our days of exposure, but we're giving

3030
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,000
the customer more time to pay. And then

3031
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,960
we're also kind of winning on giving,

3032
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:32,639
you know, making the late fee be the

3033
02:01:32,639 --> 02:01:35,760
next day, too. So, um, but yeah, that

3034
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:37,440
puts us pretty much in line with

3035
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,719
everybody around us

3036
02:01:40,719 --> 02:01:44,000
and then, um, is well, I'll go into the

3037
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,920
implementation timeline one more time,

3038
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,000
but we're basic. So, we've already done

3039
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:51,520
the July 22nd workshop meeting and then

3040
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:54,320
today just asking council feedback and

3041
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:57,280
direction and then the next meeting we

3042
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,679
would like to propose those changes for

3043
02:01:59,679 --> 02:02:03,440
adoption and then go live October 1st if

3044
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,159
possible. But we do realize there's

3045
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:08,639
going to be a lot of communication needs

3046
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:10,480
out there. So, we do want to make sure

3047
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:13,520
that October 1st deadline or go live

3048
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,920
date is doable. And if we need to move

3049
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,320
that to maybe November, we could also do

3050
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,719
that. But I do want to make sure that we

3051
02:02:20,719 --> 02:02:22,719
have enough time to get communication

3052
02:02:22,719 --> 02:02:24,400
out to everybody because it is a lot of

3053
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:25,360
changes.

3054
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:26,709
>> Is that because you feel like you need

3055
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:26,719
» Is that because you feel like you need

3056
02:02:26,719 --> 02:02:28,880
60 days from when we adopt it?

3057
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:30,390
>> Yeah, I'm worried about the adoption

3058
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:30,400
» Yeah, I'm worried about the adoption

3059
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,320
date because we want to get the letters

3060
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,960
in the bills. So, at that point, we're

3061
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,280
almost missing on being able to have at

3062
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,840
least a good month of communication

3063
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:41,270
>> because we've all been hearing this, I

3064
02:02:41,270 --> 02:02:41,280
» because we've all been hearing this, I

3065
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:43,679
feel like, a good bit, right?

3066
02:02:43,679 --> 02:02:45,430
>> Is it okay to adopt it tonight and then

3067
02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:45,440
» Is it okay to adopt it tonight and then

3068
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,679
this starts at least you have more

3069
02:02:47,679 --> 02:02:49,040
communication time so that we could

3070
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,790
start it then?

3071
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,360
» I don't see why we need to wait. Do we

3072
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,280
need to wait until September to adopt

3073
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:01,669
it? Do we need any written

3074
02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:04,159
um

3075
02:03:04,159 --> 02:03:07,030
>> um let's see if you could make a motion

3076
02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:07,040
» um let's see if you could make a motion

3077
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,119
to accept the recommendations and direct

3078
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:11,040
staff to bring the documentation back at

3079
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:12,639
October consistent.

3080
02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:13,990
>> She can do it.

3081
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:14,000
» She can do it.

3082
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,470
>> Oh, sorry. And she can go and and they

3083
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:16,480
» Oh, sorry. And she can go and and they

3084
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:17,520
can start other work.

3085
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:19,430
>> Exactly. If if you all have already made

3086
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:19,440
» Exactly. If if you all have already made

3087
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:21,280
the motion to accept the

3088
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:22,800
recommendations, then we can go ahead

3089
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:24,639
and start the public information piece.

3090
02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:27,520
that's still not officially adopted

3091
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,040
until September

3092
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,229
>> because I feel like we're all on the

3093
02:03:30,229 --> 02:03:30,239
» because I feel like we're all on the

3094
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:32,480
same page and if that gives staff more

3095
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:33,760
time

3096
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:35,830
>> then

3097
02:03:35,830 --> 02:03:35,840
» then

3098
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,350
>> and we could just [music] drop any

3099
02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:37,360
» and we could just [music] drop any

3100
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,360
ordinance changes or whatever unless we

3101
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,360
needed council to discuss it we'll just

3102
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,679
drop it on the consent agenda.

3103
02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:45,430
>> Yes. Yeah. Do that for sure.

3104
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:45,440
» Yes. Yeah. Do that for sure.

3105
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:48,229
>> And as long as finance had and customer

3106
02:03:48,229 --> 02:03:48,239
» And as long as finance had and customer

3107
02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:49,760
service had clear direction that they

3108
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:54,149
can begin the communication

3109
02:03:54,159 --> 02:03:55,599
That would work out really good.

3110
02:03:55,599 --> 02:03:56,390
>> Sweet.

3111
02:03:56,390 --> 02:03:56,400
» Sweet.

3112
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,310
>> So, do we need to make some sort of

3113
02:03:58,310 --> 02:03:58,320
» So, do we need to make some sort of

3114
02:03:58,320 --> 02:03:59,679
formal

3115
02:03:59,679 --> 02:04:01,030
>> just that you're going to that to accept

3116
02:04:01,030 --> 02:04:01,040
» just that you're going to that to accept

3117
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:03,040
the recommendation and direct staff to

3118
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,440
bring back the ordinance amendments and

3119
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,400
policy changes and contract updates at

3120
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,880
the September meeting for adoption. So,

3121
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:12,639
somebody would say so moved.

3122
02:04:12,639 --> 02:04:14,149
>> So moved.

3123
02:04:14,149 --> 02:04:14,159
» So moved.

3124
02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:16,149
>> Thank God. [laughter] I was like, I'm

3125
02:04:16,149 --> 02:04:16,159
» Thank God. [laughter] I was like, I'm

3126
02:04:16,159 --> 02:04:19,760
gonna say I move whatever she said.

3127
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:23,800
>> Perfect.

3128
02:04:23,810 --> 02:04:24,560
» [snorts]

3129
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,629
>> Okay.

3130
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:26,639
» Okay.

3131
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:30,070
>> All right. We've got we have our motion.

3132
02:04:30,070 --> 02:04:30,080
» All right. We've got we have our motion.

3133
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:33,679
Uh is there any discussion?

3134
02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:36,950
>> Not. Those in favor of moving ahead with

3135
02:04:36,950 --> 02:04:36,960
» Not. Those in favor of moving ahead with

3136
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,560
these changes say I.

3137
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:39,589
>> I.

3138
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:39,599
» I.

3139
02:04:39,599 --> 02:04:42,629
>> Those opposed say no.

3140
02:04:42,629 --> 02:04:42,639
» Those opposed say no.

3141
02:04:42,639 --> 02:04:45,990
>> Motion carries. We will move ahead get

3142
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:46,000
» Motion carries. We will move ahead get

3143
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,719
the formal paperwork next month.

3144
02:04:48,719 --> 02:04:50,390
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate

3145
02:04:50,390 --> 02:04:50,400
» Thank you very much. I appreciate

3146
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:52,870
>> you. Thank you and the staff for all the

3147
02:04:52,870 --> 02:04:52,880
» you. Thank you and the staff for all the

3148
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:53,599
time

3149
02:04:53,599 --> 02:04:57,990
>> that was put into this big project.

3150
02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:58,000
» that was put into this big project.

3151
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,390
>> Okay.

3152
02:05:00,390 --> 02:05:00,400
» Okay.

3153
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:02,400
Next, consideration of community

3154
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,199
advisory committee charter and rules of

3155
02:05:05,199 --> 02:05:07,599
procedure. Mr. Con,

3156
02:05:07,599 --> 02:05:09,750
>> Mayor Vault, members of city council, um

3157
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:09,760
» Mayor Vault, members of city council, um

3158
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:13,520
upon the direction of the city council,

3159
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,199
we are uh rechartering or chartering a

3160
02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:19,280
new advisory committee. It' be the

3161
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:21,840
community advisory committee. This would

3162
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:25,760
be a committee that would of citizens

3163
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,199
and residents um of Hendersonville and

3164
02:05:29,199 --> 02:05:30,639
maybe a greater area. I'll talk about

3165
02:05:30,639 --> 02:05:32,080
that in a minute. That would really

3166
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,880
advise the council. They're the purpose

3167
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:37,119
would be to advise the city council in

3168
02:05:37,119 --> 02:05:39,840
matters of transparency,

3169
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,159
communication, and engagement. Um they

3170
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:44,000
would serve as an advisory committee for

3171
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:47,679
staff to take. Um if we have complaints

3172
02:05:47,679 --> 02:05:50,800
such as um such as this um utility

3173
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:53,679
billing or um other things that citizens

3174
02:05:53,679 --> 02:05:56,320
are concerned, flock cameras, um things

3175
02:05:56,320 --> 02:06:00,239
that we can have a citizen committee to

3176
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:02,880
help provide feedback to staff as we are

3177
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,360
developing policies, as we're engaging

3178
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,840
the public, where can we do better with

3179
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,400
communication? Um it's just another

3180
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,119
opportunity. Ultimately those things

3181
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:14,800
come to you but this is an advisory

3182
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,360
committee to help us do some work. We

3183
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:21,520
are getting ready to um re revamp our

3184
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,199
service excellence program. This

3185
02:06:23,199 --> 02:06:25,440
committee would would help support

3186
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:27,440
service excellence as it relates to how

3187
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:29,920
we're dealing with external customers.

3188
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,719
Um also one of the things that we need

3189
02:06:32,719 --> 02:06:36,239
to work on is a is a very clear um

3190
02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:38,880
complaint process. Um, have some citizen

3191
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:42,159
has a complaint, who does it go to, how

3192
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:43,840
do we track it that that complaint's

3193
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:45,440
been addressed, and how do we make sure

3194
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:47,679
that the citizen or the community is

3195
02:06:47,679 --> 02:06:50,159
notified how we respond to that

3196
02:06:50,159 --> 02:06:52,639
complaint? So, we are proposing tonight

3197
02:06:52,639 --> 02:06:54,400
to have the community advisory

3198
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,040
committee. This will will take place of

3199
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,280
the former diversity and inclusion

3200
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:02,480
committee. Um, this is um so this will

3201
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,040
be the community advisory. Uh the one

3202
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,000
question for city council is how would

3203
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:09,760
you like the membership and the

3204
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,079
appointment of this committee? Um the

3205
02:07:12,079 --> 02:07:14,000
terms of service are very typical for

3206
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:15,599
our rest of our commissions. We'll start

3207
02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:19,119
out with a staggered appointment um to

3208
02:07:19,119 --> 02:07:22,000
to get those staggered terms. Um the

3209
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:23,840
rest of this charter very similar to

3210
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:27,199
your other um boards and commissions

3211
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:29,360
meeting it depicts when they meet. I

3212
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,199
mean putting the schedule together and

3213
02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:33,199
gives that direction for once we form

3214
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:34,880
the committee. But it would be

3215
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:38,400
consistent of uh seven

3216
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:43,199
uh members um either totally at large or

3217
02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:47,119
my recommendation may be four C city

3218
02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:50,239
residents and then three at large. Um

3219
02:07:50,239 --> 02:07:52,639
that way you have um a majority of

3220
02:07:52,639 --> 02:07:54,159
members from within the city really

3221
02:07:54,159 --> 02:07:56,239
helping the city but then also you have

3222
02:07:56,239 --> 02:07:58,480
because of our utility customers. This

3223
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:01,119
is a mechanism that you may um have

3224
02:08:01,119 --> 02:08:03,040
those three other atlarge members. This

3225
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,760
is suggesting our city attorney may have

3226
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,320
um her thoughts about that. mayor would

3227
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,480
serve as a city a liaison and the mayor

3228
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,880
prom serving as the alternate city

3229
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,040
council liaison because this is a

3230
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,719
committee that really is about

3231
02:08:16,719 --> 02:08:20,079
engagement and working with the um with

3232
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:22,800
the community. So, um we have the draft

3233
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,119
charter here. We're glad to answer any

3234
02:08:25,119 --> 02:08:27,520
questions, need some direction about how

3235
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:29,920
you want the the make up the committee

3236
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:34,719
to be and we stand by to um ask answer

3237
02:08:34,719 --> 02:08:37,040
those questions um get that direction

3238
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:39,679
and if you're so willing to approve it

3239
02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:42,000
then we'll begin the recruitment and

3240
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,719
appointment process.

3241
02:08:44,719 --> 02:08:48,629
>> So I agree with John that I think it

3242
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:48,639
» So I agree with John that I think it

3243
02:08:48,639 --> 02:08:51,709
should be four city seats and three

3244
02:08:51,709 --> 02:08:52,480
[cough]

3245
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,199
at large seats. I don't really like the

3246
02:08:55,199 --> 02:08:57,119
idea of saying seven at large seats

3247
02:08:57,119 --> 02:08:58,560
because then we could end up with not a

3248
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:01,520
single city resident on there. Um, and

3249
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:03,119
so I think that just makes sure that

3250
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:04,960
we're pulling

3251
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:06,560
we still have opportunities for folks

3252
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,159
that may not live in the city but use

3253
02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:10,800
the city um to be on the board and like

3254
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,320
you said the utility customers but at

3255
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,679
least the majority of them would be city

3256
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:18,870
residents.

3257
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:24,079
Could we say a minimum of four city?

3258
02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:26,390
>> We may

3259
02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:26,400
» We may

3260
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:30,000
as we don't know exactly who's going to

3261
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:39,990
apply.

3262
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:45,409
You good with that?

3263
02:09:45,419 --> 02:09:49,270
[laughter]

3264
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:50,960
Madame Mayor, I move the city council

3265
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:53,360
approve the community advisory committee

3266
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,920
charter and rules of procedure as

3267
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,679
amended.

3268
02:09:57,679 --> 02:10:01,840
Okay. Is there any discussion?

3269
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:06,320
Not those in favor of uh the new

3270
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:10,320
community advisory committee say I.

3271
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:10,950
>> I.

3272
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:10,960
» I.

3273
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:13,750
>> Those opposed say no. Eyes have it.

3274
02:10:13,750 --> 02:10:13,760
» Those opposed say no. Eyes have it.

3275
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:18,000
Motion carries and we can move

3276
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:22,320
move on with that get because I've had

3277
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:25,840
uh contact by some people that uh would

3278
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:28,880
be interested in serving. So

3279
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,229
>> we can get going.

3280
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:30,239
» we can get going.

3281
02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:30,950
>> Thank you.

3282
02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:30,960
» Thank you.

3283
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:33,990
>> All right. Thank you. Uh, city manager

3284
02:10:33,990 --> 02:10:34,000
» All right. Thank you. Uh, city manager

3285
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:35,840
report.

3286
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,310
>> Mayor vote, members of city council, uh,

3287
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:38,320
» Mayor vote, members of city council, uh,

3288
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:41,280
your July contingency and adjustment

3289
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,560
report is included in your agenda packet

3290
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:47,599
for your review. Uh, we'll stand by to

3291
02:10:47,599 --> 02:10:50,560
answer any questions about that. Uh,

3292
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:53,199
remind that we're having, weather

3293
02:10:53,199 --> 02:10:54,719
permitting, we think we're in good shape

3294
02:10:54,719 --> 02:10:57,119
for splash day on

3295
02:10:57,119 --> 02:10:59,990
>> Saturday um, at Sullivan Park um, from

3296
02:10:59,990 --> 02:11:00,000
» Saturday um, at Sullivan Park um, from

3297
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,760
10 to 1. We we are putting a couple

3298
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:06,400
different things together. We are having

3299
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,239
the fun things for the kids and the

3300
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:10,159
splash, but also we'll be there as kind

3301
02:11:10,159 --> 02:11:13,119
of a resource center, a variety of staff

3302
02:11:13,119 --> 02:11:16,480
trying to get engage with residents to

3303
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:18,239
get their feedback on a couple different

3304
02:11:18,239 --> 02:11:21,119
things. So, we'll be there doing that.

3305
02:11:21,119 --> 02:11:25,280
um particularly the new playground

3306
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,480
um police um interaction in that in the

3307
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,560
Green Meadows neighborhood particularly

3308
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:33,920
but also across the city. So a number of

3309
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,400
your leaders in this room will be there

3310
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:39,280
um enjoy enjoying watching the kids and

3311
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,360
adults play in the water but we will be

3312
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:43,760
there um maybe the police chief will

3313
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,760
even get wet. don't look but uh um but

3314
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,520
uh if the fire department has anything

3315
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:52,639
to do with it definitely right um but we

3316
02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:55,119
will be there um on Saturday and such

3317
02:11:55,119 --> 02:11:58,239
just remind you of that and then finally

3318
02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:02,239
um tonight uh mayor's memories um August

3319
02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:04,480
7th 2014

3320
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,199
um it was a short meeting mayor um I was

3321
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:08,800
there but it was short we were out of

3322
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:10,560
here by 8 o'clock about this time

3323
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:11,520
exactly

3324
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:13,109
>> here we are it was

3325
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:13,119
» here we are it was

3326
02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:18,069
>> 7:57 seven. On um August 7th, 2014, um

3327
02:12:18,069 --> 02:12:18,079
» 7:57 seven. On um August 7th, 2014, um

3328
02:12:18,079 --> 02:12:21,280
we uh considered a budget and management

3329
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,760
um position. It was um our current

3330
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:27,440
deputy city manager's first promotion um

3331
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:29,920
back in August of 2014. I thought that's

3332
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:33,920
a little bit ironic. Um um we had our

3333
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,719
first or an updated uh finance director

3334
02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:40,560
Lisa White uh updated our C petty cash

3335
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:42,639
policy to make sure as we were handling

3336
02:12:42,639 --> 02:12:44,480
cash across the organization that we

3337
02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:46,079
were counting for that and protecting

3338
02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:48,639
the taxpayers's money. We had a public

3339
02:12:48,639 --> 02:12:52,000
hearing um one of many that we've had

3340
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:54,560
around Grace Blueish Church and Florence

3341
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:56,320
Street with that property. I think we

3342
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:57,760
finally have settled on that property,

3343
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:00,480
but um number of public hearings through

3344
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:02,880
the years related to the Grace Blue

3345
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:04,960
Ridge Church property. Um a public

3346
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:08,159
hearing also resoning of uh two vacant

3347
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:11,040
parcels that also became part of

3348
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,040
interfaith assistance ministry over on

3349
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,960
Freeman Street. So allowed I um yeah the

3350
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,280
AM to build their new facility um and

3351
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:22,719
move from where they previously were. Um

3352
02:13:22,719 --> 02:13:24,960
our budget first formal budget one of

3353
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,760
our first formal budget documents um

3354
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:29,199
were presented as a matter of

3355
02:13:29,199 --> 02:13:31,920
information um and we had formatted it

3356
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,480
for the GFOA award which we won that

3357
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:37,920
year. Uh parking on Half Moon Trails a

3358
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:39,440
topic.

3359
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:41,840
other parking issues. As I told the the

3360
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:43,599
mayor the other day or we were joking

3361
02:13:43,599 --> 02:13:47,599
around that um you know man in invented

3362
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:49,679
the wheel and the next day they were

3363
02:13:49,679 --> 02:13:52,800
complaining about parking and so um we

3364
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,840
had a at that meeting um we um had a

3365
02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:58,320
consideration of parking issues and had

3366
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,199
our first

3367
02:14:01,199 --> 02:14:03,199
more modern comprehensive parking study

3368
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:05,040
with Dixon Unlimited when they came in

3369
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:06,159
and looked at how we were doing

3370
02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:08,400
enforcement. several other things that

3371
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:12,960
happened um related to um pedestrian

3372
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:14,560
safety

3373
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,920
uh the square dance club at the Whitmire

3374
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:20,000
Center and everything. But um so that

3375
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,880
was on August the 7th and then on

3376
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:26,159
ironically on August 11th of 2014 there

3377
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:28,800
was a special joint meeting of the 7th

3378
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,679
Avenue Advisory Committee and the city

3379
02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:35,679
council. Um, as Mayor Pro Tim mentioned,

3380
02:14:35,679 --> 02:14:37,360
uh, Steve Carricker was a champion of

3381
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,639
that area and he made sure area um, that

3382
02:14:40,639 --> 02:14:42,400
we had a special meeting where we had

3383
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:44,639
brought in an architect to look at the

3384
02:14:44,639 --> 02:14:48,639
facades and give some suggested improve

3385
02:14:48,639 --> 02:14:50,400
some kind of free architecture work.

3386
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:52,400
They did a chet. We invited the owners

3387
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:55,040
to come over and we talked about how we

3388
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,760
can improve the area related to

3389
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:00,960
visibility, walking, um, looking at the

3390
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:04,800
structures. Um, so we did that. Um, one

3391
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,280
of the key leaders that I could not

3392
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:08,800
remember his name until I see it now,

3393
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:12,000
Carson Cton at City Tire, um, was part

3394
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,320
of that. Dennis Dunlap, Terry Ketchum,

3395
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:16,480
Chris Cormier, Barl Bean was also

3396
02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:18,800
instrumental, Jim Catetter, and Martin

3397
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,360
Ray. So, we had three meetings that

3398
02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:23,360
month. the the third meeting um in

3399
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,159
August of that month in 2014 was the

3400
02:15:26,159 --> 02:15:28,880
city attorney's um performance

3401
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:30,560
evaluation which is also ironic because

3402
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:33,440
we'll do that um later later this month

3403
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:36,320
for city attorney. So a lot of irony in

3404
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:38,800
what we do. We don't change much. So

3405
02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:40,800
that is all I have mayor.

3406
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:45,350
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh we do have uh well

3407
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:45,360
» Okay. Thank you. Uh we do have uh well

3408
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:47,599
council anything council wants to bring

3409
02:15:47,599 --> 02:15:50,709
up.

3410
02:15:50,719 --> 02:15:53,440
No. Okay. Close session.

3411
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:54,870
>> Madame Mayor, I move that city council

3412
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:54,880
» Madame Mayor, I move that city council

3413
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:58,079
enter close session pursuant to NC North

3414
02:15:58,079 --> 02:15:59,360
Carolina general statute. I don't know

3415
02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:00,880
what I'm doing right now. uh

3416
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:03,840
143-318.11A16

3417
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:05,360
to prevent the disclosure of information

3418
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:06,800
that is privileged or confidential

3419
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:08,480
pursuant to the law of this state or of

3420
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:10,400
the United States or not considered a

3421
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:11,679
public record within the meaning of

3422
02:16:11,679 --> 02:16:13,840
chapter 132 of the general statutes and

3423
02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:15,360
to consider the qualifications,

3424
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:17,040
competence, performance, character,

3425
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,520
fitness of an individual public officer

3426
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:20,639
employee.

3427
02:16:20,639 --> 02:16:23,589
>> Thank you. Is there any discussion? Not

3428
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:23,599
» Thank you. Is there any discussion? Not

3429
02:16:23,599 --> 02:16:25,440
those in favor of entering close session

3430
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,159
say I.

3431
02:16:26,159 --> 02:16:29,030
>> I post say no. Eyes have it. Motion

3432
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:29,040
» I post say no. Eyes have it. Motion

3433
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:32,080
carries and we will head into close

3434
02:16:32,080 --> 02:16:34,479
session.

3435
02:16:34,479 --> 04:03:38,448
Okay.

3436
04:03:38,458 --> 04:03:38,720
» [laughter]

3437
04:03:38,720 --> 04:03:44,344
>> Are you ready?

3438
04:03:44,354 --> 04:03:45,680
[laughter]

3439
04:03:45,680 --> 04:03:49,349
>> This isn't my deal.

3440
04:03:49,349 --> 04:03:49,359
» This isn't my deal.

3441
04:03:49,359 --> 04:03:52,479
They can always

3442
04:03:52,479 --> 04:03:54,960
they can always look at the uh

3443
04:03:54,960 --> 04:03:56,399
recording. Yes.

3444
04:03:56,399 --> 04:03:57,830
>> Later on.

3445
04:03:57,830 --> 04:03:57,840
» Later on.

3446
04:03:57,840 --> 04:04:00,550
>> All right. Is there a motion?

3447
04:04:00,550 --> 04:04:00,560
» All right. Is there a motion?

3448
04:04:00,560 --> 04:04:02,389
>> Madame Mayor, I move that city council

3449
04:04:02,389 --> 04:04:02,399
» Madame Mayor, I move that city council

3450
04:04:02,399 --> 04:04:04,560
accept the resignation of John Connet

3451
04:04:04,560 --> 04:04:06,800
and appoint Brian Polly as city manager.

3452
04:04:06,800 --> 04:04:09,680
Both to be effective October 1st, 2026,

3453
04:04:09,680 --> 04:04:12,000
and authorize the mayor to negotiate and

3454
04:04:12,000 --> 04:04:13,439
enter into an appointment agreement with

3455
04:04:13,439 --> 04:04:15,600
Mr. Py on behalf of city council.

3456
04:04:15,600 --> 04:04:20,150
>> Thank you. Is there any discussion?

3457
04:04:20,160 --> 04:04:24,800
Not those in favor of the accepting the

3458
04:04:24,800 --> 04:04:28,080
resignation and appoint the appointment

3459
04:04:28,080 --> 04:04:30,239
of the new city manager say I.

3460
04:04:30,239 --> 04:04:30,950
>> I.

3461
04:04:30,950 --> 04:04:30,960
» I.

3462
04:04:30,960 --> 04:04:33,670
>> Those opposed say no. Eyes have it.

3463
04:04:33,670 --> 04:04:33,680
» Those opposed say no. Eyes have it.

3464
04:04:33,680 --> 04:04:38,000
Motion carries and uh October 1st we

3465
04:04:38,000 --> 04:04:40,684
will have a new city manager.

3466
04:04:40,684 --> 04:04:43,910
[applause]

3467
04:04:43,920 --> 04:04:48,950
And thank you to Mr. Connet.

3468
04:04:48,960 --> 04:04:51,439
Right. Okay. We are at the end of our

3469
04:04:51,439 --> 04:04:52,720
business

3470
04:04:52,720 --> 04:04:55,030
>> and we are adjourned.

3471
04:04:55,030 --> 04:04:55,040
» and we are adjourned.

3472
04:04:55,040 --> 04:04:57,920
Nine.