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I have uh enough council members in the

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room to get started. Um so welcome

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The first item on our agenda is um an in

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is a update from the administration.

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And so I would uh like to have um first

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um

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uh I think Chief Leeb from Salt Lake

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City Fire Department and Mayor Mendenhal

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join us.

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and um you're going to be providing an

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update on the fire on Main Street from

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last night.

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So, please go ahead.

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» Yeah, you can go first, mayor. That's

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all right. Just like this morning. Thank

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you, council members. Good afternoon.

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Thank you, council chair. I'm happy to

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give you briefing on the uh events from

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last evening. I'll uh try and keep it uh

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relatively

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um brief and then feel free to ask me

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questions following briefing. So um last

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evening about 8:40 p.m. we received a a

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first alarm commercial uh fire call at a

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restaurant uh the London Bell. Um

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potential fire in the kitchen. A crews

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arrived on scene and began to

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investigate a cooking fire. uh they

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found smoke and fire ultimately in the

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ceiling area uh within the establishment

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and uh they began to ensure evacuation

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of the building which had already really

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initiated by the employees um of the

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bell. Uh we initiated an aggressive

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offensive attack at that time to try and

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isolate the fire. However, it was

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located in the void space between what

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we see as a ceiling and the roof of

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these buildings and it started expanding

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and started moving uh laterally both

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north and south.

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Uh at 9:42 p.m. we transitioned from an

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offensive to a defensive strategy and

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called a third alarm. Offensive strategy

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in the fire department means we have

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firefighters interior, we may have

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firefighters on the roof, um near the

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exterior walls. We're doing everything

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we can to save the structure. When we go

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defensive, the scene has become so

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dangerous for firefighters, we have to

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fight from a safe position external of

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the building off the roof. Everybody's

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out.

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Uh we had approximately 78 firefighters

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on scene and 20 fire apparatus.

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Ultimately, we had major damage to five

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businesses. Um early this morning, it

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was updated from 4 to 5

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uh and included another establishment um

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to the north.

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6:15 a.m. this morning, we concluded our

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fire watch and we knew demobilized fire

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crews. 6:40 a.m. last crew was released

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from the scene. Since uh we left the

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scene uh early this morning, we've been

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back um at least once just to extinguish

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some hot spots that the investigative

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team uh located. So, that's not unusual

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for a fire of this size. We had three

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minor firefighter injuries, but no

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civilian injuries. uh building

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inspections. Uh we're gathering that

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information for all the buildings that

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are involved. We partner with building

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services and code enforcement for these

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type of buildings. Uh they were built in

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1914 and they underwent several remodels

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throughout the years. Many of us have

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have been in those buildings. It's very

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unfortunate.

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Mutual aid really helped us out uh last

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night. We uh have to give credit to SLC

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911. They do a great job. Salt Lake City

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Emergency Man, Salt Lake County EM, Salt

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Lake City Police Department provides a

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drone for our use. We find that

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invaluable in fires like this. It's a

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it's a great collaboration, very

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valuable. Uh, Unified Fire Authority,

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West Valley, South Salt Lake, uh, fire

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departments all helped us out. They also

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moved, uh, some units into the city to

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back fill our stations so we could go

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on, uh, our regular calls that we have

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throughout the evening. So, that's very

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helpful. Initial estimated loss is

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approximately 5 million for all

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buildings involved. Rocky Mountain Power

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has started to turn power back on to

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adjacent businesses. That includes

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Cheers to You, the Bodega, and Utah Book

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and Magazine.

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Currently, the properties have been

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turned over to the owners and from there

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they will determine the next steps with

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building services. There's no immediate

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intent for the fire department to um do

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anything with those buildings from, you

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know, uh clearing them out to raising

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them. So, we have no plan for that right

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now. It's up to the owners. So, nothing

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will happen quickly. I just want to put

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a plug in for the firefighters. They did

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a tremendous job uh last night. This was

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a very intense fire. It was very fast

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moving. There's a lot of fuel in these

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uh roof void spaces. a lot of

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opportunity for it to gain uh traction

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uh and speed. And quite honestly, the

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conditions last night were they were

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hazardous. It's very hot. Uh visibility

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was next to nothing. We're trying to

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identify where the fire is, how can we

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reach it, how can we apply water, how

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can we keep our firefighters safe and

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ensure nobody's in the buildings. So,

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they did a tremendous job. Uh my whole

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leadership team was on scene. Of course,

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we had, you know, upwards of 80

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firefighters. As I said, they did a

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great job. So, hands off to their

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firefighters in Salt Lake.

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Give it to you, mayor.

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» Thanks, Chief. And I I just want to say

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the firefighters are Salt Lake City

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firefighters are the best and we also

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can't do the best work without the fire

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departments who back us up in these

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situations. And um we're just incredibly

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fortunate also that the three

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firefighters who sustained minor

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injuries when Chief Lee described them

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this morning in the press event, they

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don't sound minor to me at all. Broken

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ankle, uh falling ceiling debris that

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trapped a firefighter against a fence

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and another injury that escapes my mind.

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» Yeah. Um smoke inhalation.

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» Smoke inhalation, dehydration, and

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nausea. So, um I I hope that they're

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well. I wanted to give you an update on

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three ways that the city is working very

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quickly to try to help these business

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owners and their employees. First is the

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uh reach back to the tip your server

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program that we did with the downtown

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alliance and many other businesses

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downtown during COVID which recognized

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that these displaced employees need

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income right away and unrestricted

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income. And so we are standing up and it

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actually just went live on the Downtown

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Alliance website, the Salt Lake City

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Main Street Fire Employee Assistance

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Fund. And we're setting it up so that

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anybody can make a contribution. And

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those contributions will go 100% to the

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employees of those five businesses that

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were directly affected. We'll be working

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with the business owners, of course, to

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make those distributions. And the

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Downtown Alliance is a great partner in

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helping us to do that. I believe the

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Utah Restaurant Association is also

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involved with us. So that is now live on

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their website. The second part is an

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emergency loan fund concept that we also

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did during COVID. This provides um no

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interest loans with a term sheet of

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repayment over several years. We're

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looking at recreating something like

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that for these businesses so that um

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either while they wait for reimbursement

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from insurance or for the gap that the

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insurance cannot cover that we could

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work with them on some terms to get them

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uh no interest loans from the city. We

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will of course be coming to you to

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determine how whether or not you want to

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approve those funds and how we're going

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to deploy them. but we're working with

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economic development, Mary Beth

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Thompson's team, and the CRA to figure

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that out. We'll have information to you

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as soon as possible. Um, the third piece

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is that we've I've made a commitment to

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all of the business and property owners

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that we will give them white glove

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service to get their permits and

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inspections done as quickly as possible

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so that they can get reopened and doing

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business as quickly as possible. So,

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just wanted to give you an update and

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always open to your suggestions as you

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talk with those business owners and

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community members or have other ideas.

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We we are open to it.

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» Um, Council Member Lo Chavez.

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» Yeah, thank you so much. Uh, thank you,

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Chief Lib. Um, thank you to Station One

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and the B patrol and, uh, Mayor

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Mendenhal. Thank you eternally from

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district 4 and on behalf of not just our

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neighbors and residents but our small

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business owners that are the life and

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blood of Main Street in our downtown. It

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means so much to me and uh I I was

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completely shocked as is everybody. But

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this doesn't have to be another hole or

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another uh dilapidation on our main

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street. I think if anything it shows the

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vigor that city hall has to reinfuse

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and to extend expand on the dynamics

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that are at play here. We have a vibrant

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main street in downtown. Uh we have lots

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of isolated economic development

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projects and commerce coming in. And so

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I can't wait for the reopening. I'm

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really excited to hear that power is

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back online. You can still I I didn't

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hear Felt, but I hope Felt's on that

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list as well and other restaurants later

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that'll come back online. And uh I I

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just want to recognize the heroism of

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those three firefighters again. This was

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a brave act, an immediate response from

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our fire department and emergency

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response.

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Uh, and this is an opportunity for us to

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to step up and to really have a larger

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and broader conversation about how do we

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continue to supplement our burgeoning

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downtown. We've seen a lot of growth.

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Um, and I I'm excited for the time

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ahead, but I want to recognize and and

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share my sympathies as well for the

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damage that the fire has caused. uh but

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also very very grateful

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uh for the opportunity to speak with the

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businesses and and have longer term

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conversations about how we can support

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them.

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» Thanks.

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» Yeah,

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Mr. Chair.

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» Yes, Council Member Po. Quickly, I

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obviously I want to like thank the the

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the work of of of your uh personnel

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there, the firefighters that put their

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you know, it's it's uh it's always

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fascinating to uh you know, they run

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towards danger and and and keeps us all

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safe and the work uh putting themselves

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there uh to to mitigate this is is is

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huge. Um it was a there was probably

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hundreds of videos online. It was very

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visible of a of a fire and I'm sure is a

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is a traumatic uh time for the community

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of the employees and and and whatnot

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too. Um I my question relates to um uh

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securing the properties uh and ensuring

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that there are not in danger to the

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community as a whole. There is a very um

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public space and there's multiple ways

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to get to this uh properties. uh is that

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on uh the the owners to secure the

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properties and do they have a timeline

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to do that? Is there assistance possibly

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for that?

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» Yeah, it's normally that is that is the

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responsibility of the owners council

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member but emergency management will

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facilitate the securing of the property.

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So if they are not in a position to be

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able to do that immediately um emergency

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management will step in and make sure

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that that occurs.

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» Thank you. Any other questions?

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All right. Um well, thank you, Chief. We

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really appreciate the good work of you

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and your um firefighters and thanks,

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mayor, for being here.

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Okay. Um other updates from the

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administration.

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Um I believe we have Weston Clark,

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director of community and outreach, uh

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or director of community outreach, and

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Andrew Johnston, director of homeless

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policy and outreach.

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Good afternoon, council. Um, we'll go

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ahead and go into the engagement

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highlights for you all. Uh, if you go to

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the next page, a reminder to go to their

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slc.gov/feedbackedback

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page where we try to collect all of our

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projects for the community to engage on.

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Um, but I will reference today, um,

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we've started a soft launch of our new

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engagement software, which I'm really

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excited about. Um, and there are some

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engagement opportunities there already

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that we will point to. It's uh the

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shape.slc.gov.

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Um shape slc. Um so I will mention those

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later and hopefully we will get

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everything on there very soon. Next

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slide. Starting with some public lands.

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Um we've got several exciting updates

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across the city's parks and public

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spaces. Starting with Fleet Block. The

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public survey for the green space and

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artwork went live on August 11th and

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will stay open through the end of the

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month. We are teaming up with partners

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also to host community conversations

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throughout August so residents are able

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to share their ideas in person. In

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Glendale, we celebrated the grand

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opening of the new pickleball complex.

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Some of you know that well on July 30th

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and the event drew a crowd of local

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players and neighbors who are excited to

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see the new courts in action. I haven't

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played there yet, but I hope to soon. at

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Liberty Park. The Rotary Play Area is

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going to be closing on August 19th for a

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major redevelopment that will run

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through summer of 2026. So, if you have

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kids with memories of that space, it's

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time to check it out one last time. In

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the meantime, we've posted a list of

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nearby playgrounds on the project's

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websites website so that families can

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find other spots to play. Looking at

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Allen Park, public lands will begin

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installing new water and fire lines in

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fall in this fall. Uh this is a $500,000

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project that will improve fire safety

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and support the health of the park's

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trees. Uh this is the first step in a

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series of major upgrades funded by the

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general obligation bond. Uh the work

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will take about 3 to four months,

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weather permitting. And in the short

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term, there is also a planned closure of

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the park on August 18th for some demo of

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a small building in the park. Next page.

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Um this is uh on our new shape SLC page.

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This is the um new well mural. You've

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probably heard we've had over a thousand

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responses to the survey already on uh

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Shape LC SLC, which is great. Uh it's

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going to make its debut in 2026, and we

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encourage residents to go there and

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share their ideas and feedback on the

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survey, which will be open until

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September 15th.

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Uh and then, uh in Love Your Block news,

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we just wrapped up our most competitive

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grant cycle yet with a record 32

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applications. Six projects were selected

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to receive fall mini grants, uh helping

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spur resident driven change. These

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projects will take place in Glendel,

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Popppler Grove, and Ballpark and will be

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completed by November 30th. Uh residents

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and council members are invited to roll

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up your sleeves and join. You can reach

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out to Diana RmIrez on my team in the

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mayor's office or visit the Love Your

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Block website in order to find out when.

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And the next slide is our uh fall events

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happening out in the community. Uh also

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where my team will be uh offering

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community office hours if folks would

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like to engage with the mayor's office.

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um including this weekend at the

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Kensington Street Fair and the Bonnie

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Ball in Sugar House on August 23rd. Uh

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so we encourage uh the community to show

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up to those events and chat with the

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liaison team there. And that is all for

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me.

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Next slide, please.

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Uh two slides to the council members. Uh

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the first one is the typical one with

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the utilization report. Uh 96%

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utilization. I will say that the

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majority of our openings recently have

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been at our senior uh shelter option.

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So, it's not necessarily uniform across

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all shelters. Uh clearly running at

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capacity across the board. Uh EIM at

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Gladiola Street in the industrial area

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this week. And then Victory Road and

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Warm Springs Park continue to be a focus

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area for the rapid intervention teams

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although they are across the city and

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other places as well. Uh resource fair

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did happen last Friday uh very

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successful and the next one is in

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September at Library Square. Uh next

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slide.

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Uh some updates here for some of you uh

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who have asked some questions about

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what's going on with certain uh

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initiatives. Uh the winter services

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planning has uh taken place over the

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summertime. The plan for the Salt Lake

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County was submitted to the state on

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August or July 30th for August 1

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deadline. Uh they have a couple of weeks

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to respond to the plan uh including uh

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whether they're going to accept it or

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reject it based on certain criteria. I

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will say that um the plan envisions

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about 400 more shelter beds this coming

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winter than last winter. Uh there is an

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open question about how to pay for those

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and if those will be available and

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that's something that will be back and

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forth with the state and the task force

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in the coming weeks. Transformative

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campus. Uh there's not much to say

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publicly about this at this point. The

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state is talking about they are

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evaluating land uh for the location. Uh

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but uh we will say very clearly that the

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office of homeless services the state

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does not have enough funding either

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capital for the build of it or for

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operations going forward. Uh that is a

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topic of discussion among all of us uh

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pretty consistently and going forward

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towards let's say next legislative

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session it will be a big topic. The

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governor I believe plans to have his

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budget ready in September and we'll have

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a better sense then about what he's

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proposing as well. Mobile hygiene pilot

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which was initiated at the council

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level. uh earlier uh this year. Uh it

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has been awarded to a local nonprofit, a

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small group is very excited. We'll have

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more info for you as soon as possible.

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They're looking at the name, working

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through us about details where, when,

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how that'll happen. Uh we'll hopefully

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have that with you very quickly. And

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then community corner on the left of the

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screen, you'll see a flyer. Uh this is

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an uh opportunity we've presented to uh

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small homeless providers who are doing

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mobile outreach uh to the community and

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typically are going where people are or

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going to parks and people are gathering

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in parks for those services. Uh we've

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been working with parks with some of the

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uh unintended effects in the park system

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uh of this happening consistently. So

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one option we're providing to people now

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is a vacant piece of land that we've

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fenced off and and secured uh that CRA

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owns. It is going to be open Mondays

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through Wednesdays in the afternoons. Uh

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local providers can apply to HART um to

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have to set up there to offer services

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to the unsheltered. They've planned

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those hours specifically to match up

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with existing services at the Wagan

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Center in St. Vincent Depal. So they're

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not overlapping or being duplicitous

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here. Uh duplicative, excuse me. And um

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it's intended to be a short-term thing.

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Um, so now until uh October or November

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when winter services open up and we're

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evaluating how impactful this is as far

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as still delivering services but

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containing them to a certain location

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where we can ensure it's clean, it's

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safe, um, and it doesn't overflow to

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other places and impact other users of

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parks. Uh, and HART will be

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administering is administering this

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program right now. Uh, so I can take any

545
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,200
questions for you or we can talk

546
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,240
offline.

547
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:45,600
Council member Petro,

548
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,480
» How many beds were accounted for in the

549
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,080
task force's plan that they submitted?

550
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,960
And does West Valley have to in

551
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,200
perpetuity keep a temporary use going

552
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,480
via preeemption?

553
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,200
» Uh, I'll start with the West Valley

554
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,880
question. The West Valley, uh, there's a

555
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,720
state-owned liquor store what's been

556
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,559
closed for several years now. Uh,

557
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240
they've used that for two years, I

558
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,799
believe, now for an overflow shelter

559
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,399
temporarily in the wintertime. Um, in

560
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,760
the last couple of years, the state has

561
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:14,960
been able to cobble together enough

562
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,480
money to keep those uh facilities open

563
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,399
through the summer so there's not a drop

564
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,159
off in the spring. Because it is

565
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:23,039
stateowned, West Valley doesn't really

566
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:24,399
have a say in uh it operating there.

567
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,760
Wayne Neerhouser and the Office of

568
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:27,360
Homeless Services have worked with them

569
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,679
and tried to keep them very much updated

570
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,600
on their plans and intentions. Uh, but

571
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:33,039
yeah, as a temporary site, it's been

572
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,600
pretty much continuously operated for

573
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:37,760
quite a while now. I believe it's still

574
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,919
um it's part of the plan to be operated

575
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,120
through this winter as well. So I can't

576
00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:44,799
really tell you sort of the future of

577
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,039
that. The general numbers that the task

578
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,279
force came up with were based on point

579
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,880
in time count numbers uh last year

580
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:53,520
shelter utilization and the number of

581
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,440
beds we had plus turnaways uh and code

582
00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:00,559
blue nights. I'm trying to get the best

583
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:03,039
estimate we can. Uh that came out to,300

584
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:05,440
temporary beds. That's in addition to

585
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,520
the 20 the year round beds we have fully

586
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,480
funded in the HRC's.

587
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,480
Um that means that includes say West

588
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Valley the extra beds in the current

589
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,840
resource centers on North Temple other

590
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,440
places like that plus uh that included

591
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,600
the code blue beds which we've had

592
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,600
previous years. Um I think it envisioned

593
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:28,640
about 200 over 200 of those I'll say. Uh

594
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,880
as well as 400 additional beds in that

595
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,880
1300 that we haven't had before. So it

596
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,039
does market a market increase from last

597
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,559
year. I I will say that um we know that

598
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,000
there is a demand out there. Clearly

599
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,240
we've been full in our current resource

600
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,240
centers even with all of the additional

601
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,399
beds from last winter. We're still full.

602
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,679
Uh so the need is there. The question is

603
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:51,200
how can we come up with the locations

604
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:52,799
and the money to do it.

605
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,360
» I'll say we in the general sense, not

606
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:54,240
the city.

607
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480
» Council member,

608
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,720
» Mr. Chair, I thank you. Uh I would love

609
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:03,039
to um

610
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:06,240
I I appreciate uh you know how you frame

611
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:10,880
this uh answers as like we um because we

612
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:12,880
are part of it. Um and uh but I

613
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,000
obviously struggle sometimes with the

614
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,720
rhetoric uh from uh from from some

615
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,120
people that make it look like it's only

616
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,080
select city's problem or select city's

617
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,360
doing. Um I would love to uh explore the

618
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:30,080
opportunity if uh

619
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,559
Mr. Wayne Neerhauser would love to visit

620
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,000
us. Uh we would love to have him here to

621
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,080
explain uh to let us know how he's

622
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,880
approached this and how we can help him.

623
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Uh you know I would love to to listen uh

624
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,679
from from uh you know who's leading this

625
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,919
department for the state. um and uh and

626
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:52,960
put it on the record here too uh for our

627
00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:55,360
our ourselves and for our citizens and I

628
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,919
I would love to um extend that

629
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,760
invitation. I know that uh he doesn't

630
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:02,880
respond to us and you know I have a

631
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:06,399
great deal of respect for him myself um

632
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,240
and we are not my intent is not to put

633
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:11,279
him in an awkward situation but to

634
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,840
actually uh understand the constraints

635
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,399
uh that he is experienced and how he

636
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,120
sees this problem. uh moving forward.

637
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:21,760
So, um thank you for the work. Um as far

638
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,640
as the uh corner, the community corner,

639
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,279
uh are you intending to have a a board

640
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,120
there or something that tells the times

641
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:32,240
where the services are going to be

642
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:36,000
implemented or so for those who visit

643
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,120
the spot to know when is this what is

644
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,399
the schedule looking like?

645
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,679
» Sure. Uh, so I'll say that the first

646
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:43,760
thing that happens a lot in the

647
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:46,320
unsheltered community is word of mouth

648
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,519
spreads things very quickly. Um, so we

649
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600
know that's going to happen. The

650
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,039
providers themselves um are spreading

651
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,159
the word through their networks, people

652
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,399
they're already seeing on the streets

653
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:57,519
and other locations. Uh, we haven't done

654
00:32:54,399 --> 00:33:00,159
a big opening for this uh site. Um, we

655
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:01,679
kept it fairly low-key uh as a buildup.

656
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:04,399
So for this week, we'll probably see

657
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:05,919
some low numbers. Um and it depends on

658
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:07,120
who what providers are showing up as

659
00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:08,480
well because they have to plan in

660
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760
advance to be there so we know who's

661
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,480
going to be there make sure it's not

662
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,159
overwhelming the the site etc. So um we

663
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,640
are doing word of mouth and through the

664
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:18,080
provider networks um both who are going

665
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760
to be there and who are also sort of

666
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,679
other providers in the community going

667
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,360
that route with the uh notification.

668
00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:25,360
We've also done some work Weston's team

669
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440
has done well to coordinate with the

670
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,039
neighbors around that site uh to make

671
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,399
sure that they were aware in advance.

672
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,399
We've had meetings with them to hear

673
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:35,919
their concerns. U make sure we try and

674
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:37,440
address as much as we can there um to uh

675
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:39,279
kind of ward off any issues that they

676
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,840
may have foresee happening there.

677
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,480
» Will you be so kind to share uh the

678
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:49,200
process for any neighbor or uh resident

679
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:51,840
in the area to uh just let let your team

680
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,200
know of what's happening. Uh there's a

681
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640
there's a lot of constraints in the

682
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,919
area. There's a lot of issues in the

683
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,720
area as you very well know. uh and uh

684
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:03,440
they're not very far from this site. Um

685
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,080
certainly I I uh believe that offering

686
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,639
this the right services is is key here.

687
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Um I also want to mitigate the impacts

688
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:15,520
to the overall community too. Um that

689
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:20,960
being said, garbage or uh you know

690
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:23,679
potentially uh the popup of more of uh

691
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:28,320
drug markets uh you know in the streets

692
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:29,679
and whatnot. And um So I I would love

693
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,359
that having those resources so I can

694
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,240
share with my neighbors as well.

695
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:35,919
» So u just up front right now Amy Stoxs

696
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:37,839
who manages the heart team. She's the

697
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:40,480
direct contact for this community

698
00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:43,359
corner. Um one-stop shop go right to

699
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,359
her. Uh Commander Diamond in the police

700
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:46,960
department and Lieutenant Davis uh who

701
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:48,480
work with him. Uh they've been our

702
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,720
contacts meeting with all the neighbors

703
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
and for safety and security issues. Um

704
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,440
so we make sure that all the neighbors

705
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,599
have their contact information so they

706
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,760
can contact us directly. Even yesterday

707
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,599
when they were um working down there,

708
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,440
they got calls from UTA to work on some

709
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:05,400
things. Um so we are actively engaged

710
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,400
with those neighbors on those things.

711
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:12,079
» Okay, I don't think we have any other

712
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,880
questions. Thank you so much.

713
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:18,240
All right, the next item on our agenda

714
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,400
is um a resolution for the capital

715
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:22,320
improvement program follow-up

716
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,040
discussions.

717
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,599
And with us we have Kate Werret, um,

718
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,599
council policy analyst. And then we also

719
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:32,880
have available available for questions

720
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:35,760
Ben Lekkey, um, deputy chief financial

721
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,520
officer, uh, Rachel Molinari, capital

722
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,520
improvement program manager, Mike

723
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,400
Atkinson, capital asset planning

724
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,280
manager, and some other department

725
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,240
directors.

726
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,280
Go ahead, Kate.

727
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:50,800
» Great. Thank you. So, this is, I

728
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,560
believe, our fourth briefing that we've

729
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,560
had on the capital improvement program.

730
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,960
I'm just going to refer to it as the CIP

731
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,839
moving forward. And we have quite a bit

732
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,880
of time today to discuss this because

733
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:05,119
this is your opportunity to like

734
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,119
finalize going through the projects,

735
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:09,440
call out any projects that haven't been

736
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:12,320
funded or or were funded and you want to

737
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,480
adjust the funding. So, um, there are

738
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,400
eight or nine projects that received a

739
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,400
funding recommendation that we haven't

740
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:24,320
discussed yet. If it's okay with you, I

741
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,720
I say we just hit those projects and

742
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,520
then opening it up for discussion on

743
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:32,800
funding. You'll notice at your your

744
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:35,599
seats you have a sheet that has all the

745
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,440
projects that I was aware of that you

746
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:41,440
had funding suggestions for um that that

747
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,520
are there. But we'll get to that in a

748
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,599
second. So let's go ahead and open the

749
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:50,760
funding log and look at uh project

750
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,760
number 28 is where we will start.

751
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,000
So, this funding um this project is the

752
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:13,760
Riverside Basketball Court renovation.

753
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:17,359
Um it was they requested $530,000

754
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,280
and they were recommended um by both the

755
00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:22,079
the advisory board and the mayor to

756
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:26,079
receive full funding for this.

757
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,480
If there's no comments,

758
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:33,720
good with that. Okay, we'll go ahead and

759
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,720
go to project number 38 then.

760
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,000
So, this is for electric vehicle

761
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,599
charging expansion at the public service

762
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:51,359
building. Um they had requested funding

763
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:53,280
for phases one and two and uh the mayor

764
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:56,400
recommended funding through phase three

765
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:59,040
which will provide enough EV charging

766
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,079
stations to fulfill the needs that that

767
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:05,359
are had. Um you are going to be having

768
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:08,240
an EV charging station as well as EV

769
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:12,079
vehicle um well EV charging station for

770
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:13,359
both public use and city use coming up

771
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:16,240
here in the next couple months. We're

772
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:18,800
waiting on one more transmitt from the

773
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:22,400
airport to to bring that to you, just so

774
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,640
you're aware. But um that that's why

775
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,480
this is recommended for funding at a

776
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,400
higher amount than their request because

777
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,920
the mayor is recommending funding to the

778
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,960
full amount to get them through phase

779
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,680
three.

780
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,880
» Mr. Chair,

781
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,240
» Yes, Council Member Puy,

782
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:39,760
» Quick question. Uh can uh are there uh

783
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:43,040
breakdowns on this money that the I can

784
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,680
quickly find out other uh smaller

785
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,520
amounts of money that we can potentially

786
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,720
allocate. I guess that's that's what I'm

787
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:53,280
trying to get to. Um it's it's a

788
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:58,400
significant amount of money. Not right

789
00:38:53,280 --> 00:39:00,720
now the pressure I'm feeling is uh that

790
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:05,440
there is so much need and so little

791
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:11,119
money. Um and uh and I'm trying to make

792
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:12,640
good to uh public safety needs uh first.

793
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:15,520
Uh

794
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,359
in my mind. So, uh if you have any

795
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,520
information on that one, I would love to

796
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,160
explore the possibility of shaving some

797
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:26,560
of the funds here if uh if possible.

798
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:31,119
» Yeah, definitely. So, um they have a

799
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:34,240
breakdown um in their application

800
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:37,599
that had had it broken down. So for

801
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:40,599
phase one, um it was going to be

802
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,599
1,11,000

803
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:49,920
plus change. Um phase 2 um was $214,000

804
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,839
plus change and then phase three was 98

805
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,280
$99,000.

806
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:57,359
So um if you look at um with with their

807
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,520
funding recommendation

808
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:04,000
um they had asked for phases one and

809
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,560
two. So that 1 million $2,000 and the

810
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,040
mayor added in the additional to make it

811
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:13,280
the full three phases. So if you were

812
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:17,040
looking to just do um phase phases one

813
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:20,599
and two um that would give you

814
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,599
about $76,118

815
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,920
in the general fund that that could go

816
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,359
towards other projects.

817
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,560
» So 70

818
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:34,960
» Can I clarify? I I don't think I wrote I

819
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,599
see here allocated 1,78,87

820
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,000
total.

821
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,400
» Yes.

822
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,400
» With 1,1,214,000

823
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:48,599
and 999,000 as the the allocation here

824
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,599
doesn't even cover the first two phases.

825
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,560
Sorry, I don't know if I wrote something

826
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920
down wrong.

827
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,920
» I just didn't follow that.

828
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,160
» Maybe I I'm

829
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,200
» Reading it wrong. Thank you. Hi, Julie

830
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,839
Krookton.

831
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200
» Julie Kricxton, public services.

832
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:06,160
» Kate just switched up some of the

833
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,760
numbers. So phase one and two would be

834
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,680
the figure you quoted. And then the

835
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,400
phase three additional money that the

836
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,720
mayor added is the 76,000.

837
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,319
The sorry initial phase is expensive

838
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,920
because you have to add electric

839
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:19,520
infrastructure. So it's not just the

840
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,720
chargers, which is why phase three is

841
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,640
cheaper because at that point you're

842
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:25,359
just adding more chargers. The first

843
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,839
phase is adding transformers and more

844
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:30,240
electric capacity.

845
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:32,560
Can I follow up real quick?

846
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,760
» So I'm seeing that we currently have a

847
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,200
fleet of 50 our current infrastructure

848
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,040
because this is an expansion of

849
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,280
infrastructure that we have. Is our

850
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,760
current infra is this is this expansion

851
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,520
driven by actual demand or a projected

852
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,560
demand. Is our current fleet being

853
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,319
served or is this expansion required to

854
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,359
serve that current fleet?

855
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:55,839
» Both. So, the current fleet is needing

856
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:57,359
to be very creative in how they charge

857
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,880
their vehicles. So, they're having to do

858
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:00,720
a lot of coordination to cycle

859
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,480
everything through. And if you have too

860
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,160
many vehicles charging at once, it trips

861
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,400
the breaker of the building. So, this

862
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,599
would address that as well as expand the

863
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,319
capacity for the predicted vehicles that

864
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:14,480
will could eventually become EVs.

865
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:16,240
They're mostly sedans that the

866
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,000
technology already exists, but because

867
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:21,200
we haven't had the charging, we haven't

868
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,119
bought the EVs yet. Um, could I if if I

869
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,880
could I would love to see the projection

870
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:28,560
for what we are switching to EV because

871
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,400
I know in fleet it was part of the

872
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,760
proposal during the budget session. So

873
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,720
I'd like to see what we're converting

874
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,720
and how long this expansion would help

875
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,440
us like when when the next expansion

876
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,119
will be required.

877
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,520
» We can get you that information.

878
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,359
» Yeah, obviously this is something I

879
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:47,680
value myself. Sorry, Mr. Chair.

880
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:49,680
» No, go ahead. the I value I trying to uh

881
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,079
see if there's an opportunity to maybe

882
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,520
punt some of these objectives to a

883
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:57,520
little later buying ourselves a little

884
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:00,960
time for the goals but ultimately I when

885
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,520
I am uh working on my house uh you know

886
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,720
sometimes is it makes sense to do it all

887
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:09,280
together um you know then facing it but

888
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:12,720
but even even from the explanation that

889
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,920
we got today potentially it will be a

890
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:19,760
satactory to do phase one and two and

891
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,280
that will give us $76,000 of potential

892
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
uh

893
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,240
funding to play around.

894
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,440
» Yes, that's correct.

895
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:28,440
» This might be some more information.

896
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,800
» Thank you. The other thing that I want

897
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:41,359
to add is that um right now there are no

898
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:45,119
um EV stations there and most officers

899
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:47,200
are charging their vehicles at home.

900
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,520
So it's costing them a lot of money

901
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,440
whereas they could charge it at the

902
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,680
public safety parking lot instead of

903
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,599
charging them at home. So keep that in

904
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,800
mind for these EV stations as well. I

905
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:59,200
think it's really important for our

906
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:03,160
officers to not have to have incur that

907
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,160
expense at their home.

908
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Go ahead.

909
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:12,800
» I don't think so.

910
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,079
» Okay.

911
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,839
» Yep.

912
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:21,880
» Great. Well, we will continue on to item

913
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,880
40 or project 44.

914
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,000
» This is event infrastructure and

915
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,960
pavilion replacements for vibrant safe

916
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,040
city parks.

917
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,160
» I was being a bad student. I missed the

918
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,160
the number. What was that number?

919
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,160
» 44.

920
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,280
» So, all the funding for this is coming

921
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:44,280
from park impact fees.

922
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,680
» Can I just ask park impact fees? Remind

923
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:56,000
me. They can go to new. What What is

924
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,480
their kind of guard rails around them?

925
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,560
So, it's it's mainly new and

926
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:05,119
improvements that are to increase the

927
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,920
the city's overall level of service for

928
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:09,520
new residents. It can't be a replacement

929
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,240
of existing items.

930
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,800
» Got it. And is it restricted to just

931
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:17,440
areas that are designated parks or does

932
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,079
it have more applicability across the

933
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,040
city?

934
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:21,440
» It it can go towards plaza areas also.

935
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Okay.

936
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:28,160
» I'm not sure beyond that.

937
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,800
um the the trick is that the projects

938
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,000
across the city. So, first the answer is

939
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,960
no, it does not need to be in a

940
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:39,359
designated park area. So, for example,

941
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,000
trails um the 9inth South um Neline

942
00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:43,760
Trail is an example where um there was a

943
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,760
creative use of parks impact fees, but

944
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,960
it has to be in our impact fee facility

945
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:52,079
plan. So, if it's a new idea that wasn't

946
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:54,000
included in that plan, um it potentially

947
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,319
is not eligible for parks impact fees.

948
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,240
Okay.

949
00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:58,160
» Thank you.

950
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:59,760
» Mr. Go ahead, M. Council member.

951
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,920
» I will also like to request a little

952
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,400
more breakdown on cost here because it's

953
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:09,200
a it's a it's a lot of money. Um and I

954
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,319
want to know specifically what we can

955
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,560
buy with that money. Um, and just to

956
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:16,640
have an idea of how many pavilions I

957
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,520
mean they have to be new being park

958
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,520
impact fees. The description talks about

959
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,720
uh replacements too. Obviously that's

960
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,240
because there's $4 million request um if

961
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:28,960
we had more money obviously will come

962
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:33,680
from other funds but um so we are

963
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,960
talking about new new um new amenities.

964
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,880
I would like to see what the

965
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,119
administration is planning to do with

966
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,359
the $2 and a half million dollars if

967
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,079
this were to go funded.

968
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,920
» Okay.

969
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,160
» I'mware potentially.

970
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,079
» Great. I I will share the full

971
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
application materials with you on that

972
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:52,400
one. They they have provided some

973
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,359
additional information. So I I'll send

974
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,200
that your way or everyone's

975
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:59,040
» Mr. Chair.

976
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,960
» Yes. Go ahead, Council.

977
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,040
» Yeah. Thank you. appreciate the

978
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,720
questions and appreciate the explanation

979
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,280
here. My question would be on

980
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,839
specifically would bike racks be

981
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,640
included in this.

982
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:16,400
» So I asked and bike racks are not

983
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,560
covered by park impact fees on a general

984
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,560
basis unless it's at a park.

985
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,960
» Why wouldn't they? Like it's a new

986
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:26,640
amenity. Is that like a by law? Like

987
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,319
» I think if they're included as part of

988
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,680
an an entirely new park plan. Yes, this

989
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:37,040
is where the way we write our impact fee

990
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:39,119
plan is very important. Um so as the

991
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,599
administration is upgrade is updating

992
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:43,119
the impact fee plan um these are the

993
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:47,839
kinds of lessons unfortunately we have

994
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:50,079
to learn the hard way of um ways to um

995
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:52,400
preserve our ability to use impact fees

996
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:54,800
more flexibly in the future. But they

997
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,880
are heavily regulated by state law and

998
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,160
that's why the impact fee plan is

999
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,760
written the way it is. Um, so it's

1000
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,359
frustrating and not perfect, but it

1001
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,760
means that we have to use them when we

1002
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:10,079
do know that they're eligible. So,

1003
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,839
» And are we planning to make that update

1004
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:15,839
eventually? Someone putting a sticky

1005
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:18,839
note somewhere on this one.

1006
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:18,839
» Yes.

1007
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,160
» Any other questions?

1008
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,359
» Okay,

1009
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:30,319
» Great. Okay. So the next project u is

1010
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:34,400
project 45 the very next one. So

1011
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:37,599
playground shade they asked for 500,000

1012
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,160
and were recommended to receive 500,000

1013
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:42,880
from park impact fees.

1014
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:47,640
You can see a list um there of where

1015
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,640
those shade structures may may go.

1016
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,559
» Council,

1017
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,400
» Sorry,

1018
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:55,440
» You're okay. How how is it that it comes

1019
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,440
from impact fees for like replacement of

1020
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,440
shades?

1021
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,880
» We need an impact fee attorney here. But

1022
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:07,599
in general, um, playground replacement

1023
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,520
has been deemed eligible for impact fees

1024
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:12,240
because the playgrounds that are

1025
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,119
replaced serve more kids than are

1026
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:17,839
currently being served. So, in a sense,

1027
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:20,079
new people who are moving in are able to

1028
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:21,440
use a facility that has expanded in

1029
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,640
scope. The way I think about it and the

1030
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,720
way it was explained to me at one point

1031
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:28,800
is are you adding a lane to a road or

1032
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,040
are you replacing the existing lanes

1033
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,200
with the exist a road with the ex same

1034
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,280
number of lanes. So if we're adding

1035
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,119
amenities to a park to serve growth and

1036
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,079
that's the key and we have it in our

1037
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:44,160
impact fee plan then we can use it then

1038
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,599
we can use impact fees

1039
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,319
» Or if you're a fire truck.

1040
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,119
» Yes. or if you're a fire truck.

1041
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:52,119
» Police bar.

1042
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,119
» Correct.

1043
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:59,280
» Okay, great. Okay, next up is number 48.

1044
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,839
Um

1045
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,760
this is the Rose Lane beautifification

1046
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:05,760
trail and safety improvement. You may

1047
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:10,079
remember that when we were reviewing one

1048
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:12,640
of the first um items in the project log

1049
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:16,640
um it was for ADA improvements and it

1050
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:19,119
wasn't fully funded because $680,000

1051
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,359
from that went to this project instead

1052
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:24,559
which is pretty much a sub project of

1053
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:27,200
that ADA improvement one. Um and the

1054
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:31,040
these funds are coming from the general

1055
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,440
fund. So, um

1056
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:37,200
» I'm not really asking for much anywhere

1057
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,880
else in CIP because of this. Um this is

1058
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,920
what's in the city's purview to

1059
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,680
accomplish. Um we consistently neglect

1060
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,520
this area. No offense. I know you all

1061
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,119
work as hard as you can, but every year

1062
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,960
I have two constituents who have to tell

1063
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,520
me, can we get the weeds mode? Can we

1064
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,480
get the weeds mode? It's just so on the

1065
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,640
edge of everything um that we don't that

1066
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,359
what they really need honestly is for

1067
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,880
you do to stop rejecting me. Um it's

1068
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:02,000
Carlos Brceros is the only man who's

1069
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,000
allowed to reject me and still get

1070
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,839
emails from me. But like they keep

1071
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,359
rejecting the request for a sound wall.

1072
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:10,640
There's a material change to the use of

1073
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:13,440
that highway since the truck prohibition

1074
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,240
left the legacy highway and since they

1075
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,760
added the high the um the factories

1076
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:21,599
across the way that caused like a

1077
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,359
reverberation effect. So this is a very

1078
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:26,079
lovely thing that the city is doing to

1079
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:28,880
enhance it. Still represents probably

1080
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:31,760
about a third of what that neighborhood

1081
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,920
needs, but it's a good faith signal from

1082
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,920
the city that we are hearing them. We

1083
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,440
care about them and even being on the

1084
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,480
edge of the city means that you still

1085
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,400
deserve full service from us.

1086
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,240
Council

1087
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,240
member Young,

1088
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,920
» Just a quick followup, and this may be

1089
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,240
for my fellow council member, but I'm

1090
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:53,440
open to feedback from anywhere. So, when

1091
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:56,000
we're installing just like the new trees

1092
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:59,680
and the new irrigation, do we also have

1093
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:02,000
like a plan to take care of those?

1094
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,240
» So, within their application, they

1095
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,040
include an estimate on how much it will

1096
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:10,559
impact the the the maintenance of the

1097
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:12,720
park areas in each application. Um, I

1098
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:14,240
can look this one up and let you know

1099
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:16,240
what that number was. What

1100
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,880
» And is that something where it's then

1101
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:21,280
reasonable to like have that as part of

1102
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,599
the consideration for the future budget

1103
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,640
conversation? Like really what I'm

1104
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:29,200
asking for is an ability to kind of flag

1105
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:32,880
those items where it's like we approved

1106
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:35,280
an improvement to this area and now we

1107
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:38,160
would like to commit to maintaining it

1108
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:42,240
in future budgetary cycles as opposed to

1109
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:45,839
it getting lost in the process.

1110
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,920
Is that a maybe? Maybe we could do that.

1111
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:50,800
» So are you asking for like the ongoing

1112
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,200
cost for this capital investment? So

1113
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,880
it's not just this project, it's all the

1114
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,760
CIPs that I'd just be curious in not not

1115
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,680
for today and today's approval but to be

1116
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,720
able to make sure that we are

1117
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,040
calculating those pieces because I think

1118
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,280
it is one of the things that I I have

1119
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,240
both seen not just in my district but

1120
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:15,040
across the city um that you know we

1121
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:17,440
create these new really really beautiful

1122
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,200
spaces for our residents and I just want

1123
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,119
to make sure that as a council we

1124
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,040
continue to have a conversation about

1125
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,720
funding the maintenance to keep them at

1126
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,359
that level when possible.

1127
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:29,040
» Yeah. And that is that is in the CIP

1128
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:31,440
book and part of the application that

1129
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,000
they submitted. Um if we get to a point

1130
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,800
where we have what you would like to see

1131
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,440
as the funding recommendation, well,

1132
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,200
what you want to approve. Um I will go

1133
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,559
ahead and calculate what your

1134
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,680
maintenance number will be.

1135
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,400
» Thank you so much.

1136
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,960
» Yeah.

1137
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,800
» Can I also piggyback on that? this these

1138
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,720
improvements feel like really lowhanging

1139
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:55,200
fruit for us to innovate um smart ways

1140
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:58,240
to do maintenance as opposed to pushing

1141
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:01,040
lawnmowers, those self-propelled zero

1142
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:03,200
emission lawn maintenance machines that

1143
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,720
we have been getting sold every time we

1144
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,640
go to a conference. I'd love to see that

1145
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:12,000
take some of the burden off of manpower

1146
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,599
so that we can keep up and maintain.

1147
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,520
So, as we're as we're innovating these

1148
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:18,960
spaces, I would love to see us innovate

1149
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:23,319
care for those spaces that gives us bang

1150
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,319
for our buck on our ongoing dollar.

1151
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:28,000
» And Mr. Chair,

1152
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:30,240
» Yes, Council Member Dugan,

1153
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,720
» Thank you. And I just again, I'll piggy

1154
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:33,920
back on everybody else here. The uh I

1155
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,440
love the idea of the beautifification

1156
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,480
and I also appreciate Council Member

1157
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,640
Young's comments about ongoing. It's

1158
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,640
because in my district it's always

1159
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,280
ongoing along Foothill Drive. I know

1160
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,520
it's a U dot road, but it's our side of

1161
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:52,160
uh the street, but between like 13 South

1162
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:55,760
and Sunnyside on the east side. The

1163
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:58,240
overgrowth along that uh sidewalk just

1164
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,480
makes that sidewalk unuh unusable and

1165
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:02,319
unpassable. It's every year it seems

1166
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,720
like it's a stretch there. And the

1167
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:06,400
beautifification just does not happen.

1168
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:08,319
And even when we complain about it,

1169
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,839
doesn't happen. It's one of those we

1170
00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:11,680
need to have that done. It's not really

1171
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:14,079
the CIP side of the house. It's more the

1172
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,599
general budget side of the house. But

1173
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,000
those one of those projects is like,

1174
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,920
hey, we need to make sure that all the

1175
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,920
stuff that

1176
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,760
needs to be done is being done on a

1177
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,319
regular basis and not until someone

1178
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,319
complains about it.

1179
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,040
» Okay. Go ahead.

1180
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,720
» Great. Thank you. So, the next two

1181
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,920
projects

1182
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,920
are a little bit different than the

1183
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,920
others. Um, well, we've already

1184
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,920
discussed 57, which is the next one.

1185
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,480
It's the civic campus and the green

1186
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,640
loop. I just since we're going in order,

1187
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,359
I wanted to just

1188
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:52,000
» I

1189
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:54,160
just uh Sorry, Mr. Chair.

1190
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,000
» Yes, go ahead, Council Member Dian.

1191
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,280
» I appreciate the the conversation. I

1192
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,799
appreciate the work on the the Green

1193
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,079
Loop and the the funding for that and

1194
00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:04,640
the vision on that. I'm just looking at

1195
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:07,119
uh possibly using some of the funds from

1196
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:10,640
the green lip on another project. Uh

1197
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:13,520
because this project has 99,000 coming

1198
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:17,440
from the general fund, that means that

1199
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:20,079
those funds are open to any uh

1200
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:23,280
multiple uses in all uses that we deem

1201
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:25,440
nec that we deem appropriate. So, I'm

1202
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,760
just looking at possibly using some of

1203
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,760
that 99,000

1204
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:34,000
out of this uh 3 million to go to a uh a

1205
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:39,480
separate project, project number 18,

1206
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,480
just to in uh boost that project up.

1207
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:47,599
And I was looking for between, you know,

1208
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,200
30 and $50,000 would be great to add

1209
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,440
some more bike racks in number project

1210
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,440
number 18.

1211
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,720
M Mr. Chair.

1212
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:56,720
» Yes.

1213
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,280
» Followup question to M. Yes. Council

1214
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,440
» Member Dugan.

1215
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,599
» So we have a coun a question for council

1216
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,160
member Dugan's proposal.

1217
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,440
» Go ahead.

1218
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:09,680
» Will you run through it one more time?

1219
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:13,200
So you you're trying to fund uh 18

1220
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,440
which is 100,000 and take it potentially

1221
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,440
from 57.

1222
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:22,400
» Yeah. just take uh a small portion of 57

1223
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:25,200
and add it to number 18. And the reason

1224
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,280
is because uh we are in dire need of

1225
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,280
bike racks across the city. And I'm not

1226
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,440
specifically saying what district or

1227
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,040
what area for the bike racks. I leave

1228
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,119
that more up to the transportation

1229
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,880
department, but our bike racks across

1230
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:40,880
the city are in disrepair. And it just,

1231
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,079
you know, it doesn't support users of

1232
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,480
bikes because now they don't have a

1233
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:47,280
place to park them. And so the bike

1234
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,799
racks are a capital improvement. So we

1235
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,720
could use the general fund for that

1236
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:53,520
because it's a CIP project, but just

1237
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:57,280
boosting that uh

1238
00:57:53,520 --> 00:58:01,520
CIP from 100 grand to say 150 grand.

1239
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:06,079
That that will give you about uh

1240
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:08,079
40 45 uh bike racks

1241
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:10,960
across the city. and and our bike racks

1242
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:13,680
right now are just uh

1243
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:17,839
» Increasingly just being demolished.

1244
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:19,760
» I'm gonna call on myself to answer the

1245
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:20,079
qu to ask a question.

1246
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,799
» Sure.

1247
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:25,200
» Which is I mean it the project's request

1248
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:26,960
was only 100,000. It's fully funded. Why

1249
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,880
would we give more than what's

1250
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,720
requested?

1251
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,960
» Because right now just the 40,000 is

1252
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,480
just for bike racks themselves. until

1253
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,079
the only a few a portion of those that

1254
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,000
funding needs to go into the bike racks

1255
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:42,400
and I think we need to inc increase the

1256
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,920
number of bike racks we got uh funded

1257
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,319
new bike racks

1258
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,160
» Right

1259
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:48,400
» I understand I understand I understand

1260
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,960
your your position right there uh you're

1261
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,440
correct in that case

1262
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,799
but this is a 50/50 so I think it I

1263
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,799
would just look to for more of that uh

1264
00:58:56,799 --> 00:58:59,520
so that they go specifically to the bike

1265
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:01,040
racks

1266
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,799
» Yeah I mean it's not that I don't want

1267
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,319
to fund

1268
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:11,200
bike racks necessarily. I'm just what if

1269
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:13,520
what if 40% is what is necessary to

1270
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:16,000
accomplish that

1271
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,119
um and meet the needs?

1272
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,440
» I don't know why.

1273
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,200
» Yeah.

1274
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,200
» Well, I Yeah, I don't know why they only

1275
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,200
put 100 grand there. It doesn't meet

1276
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,359
meet the needs of the city, but it does

1277
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,200
replace 20 bike racks, but rather

1278
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:27,599
increase those bike racks by more.

1279
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,200
» Okay.

1280
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,960
» I'm not going to I'm not going to call

1281
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,480
that. I'm just saying this came to the

1282
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,880
transportation department division also.

1283
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,040
It wasn't a a

1284
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,000
» Res

1285
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,400
project.

1286
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,559
» Okay. Council member Lopez Chavez.

1287
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,599
» Yeah. Thank you and thank you to council

1288
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:47,680
member Dugan for sharing that. I share a

1289
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:51,200
different perspective um since district

1290
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:53,119
4 only has a partial funding log in the

1291
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,720
CIP and we've been so delicate about

1292
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:57,440
dispersing these funds and so I

1293
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,440
appreciate the conversation. Uh however

1294
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,960
there is one constituent request that I

1295
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,680
have brought up to the attention. I was

1296
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,520
just waiting to be patient about it. Um

1297
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,920
but if we are going to have that

1298
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,480
discussion number 25 I brought up early

1299
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,559
on in the CIP log. You have a printed

1300
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:16,079
sheet in front of you that breaks up the

1301
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:18,480
line items and still without

1302
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:20,880
prioritization from public lands is the

1303
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,960
curb that is missing from the median

1304
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,359
green space. that is some of the only

1305
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,160
green space in East Central and District

1306
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:30,079
4 that's utilized near the U. And so, as

1307
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,920
much as I appreciate the conversation,

1308
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:34,079
just to echo what Council Member Petro

1309
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,799
said, our districts all have dire need

1310
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:38,559
and lowanging fruit, I'd much rather I

1311
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:41,280
don't want to eliminate funding from

1312
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:44,079
this project, but if we're going to um

1313
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,400
act out of distress and try to represent

1314
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:48,480
the needs of this city, you know, quite

1315
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,960
frankly, I I'd rather go back and have

1316
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,960
that conversation, which um Council

1317
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Member Dugan, you and I had in relation

1318
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,520
to this gutter. We currently have

1319
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,599
immense misuse in the neighborhood where

1320
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,480
people are parking in what otherwise

1321
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:04,400
would be our green space. So, as much as

1322
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,720
I'd love to fund Green Loop, there's

1323
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,520
also existing green spaces that are

1324
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,119
utilized as parks that are currently uh

1325
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:15,119
unfortunately

1326
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:16,720
and organic parking spaces. So, I I

1327
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:18,559
appreciate I know there's need I've

1328
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,960
heard from businesses that want to see

1329
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:23,359
bike racks installed. That being said, I

1330
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:26,400
also know that our departments are

1331
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:29,040
cultivating a list to phase out how we

1332
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,720
uh approach this installation. Um I just

1333
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,319
see that there's dire safety needs in

1334
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:36,760
our city that are more of an impediment

1335
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:36,760
today than the bike racks.

1336
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Okay. So, is that an official

1337
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,760
I guess my question for both of um

1338
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:49,200
Council Member Dugan and Lopez Chavez is

1339
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,680
are you making a motion to make changes

1340
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:54,079
or are we raising these as discussion

1341
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:58,000
points?

1342
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:59,599
» I would make a motion to uh adopt change

1343
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,440
number

1344
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:04,079
uh 57,

1345
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:07,839
reduce it by 50,000 and add it to number

1346
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:10,559
18 uh for bike racks. I understand

1347
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:12,559
council Lopez's point that's for close

1348
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,359
to a million dollars for the the curbs

1349
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:18,319
which is a broader subject and this is

1350
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:20,400
just a a small portion of the of the

1351
01:02:18,319 --> 01:02:23,680
civic campus and the green loop but I

1352
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,599
also look at it as part of the overall

1353
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,200
big picture on the civic campus side of

1354
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:29,200
the houses because these bike racks are

1355
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,319
not just one district they're across the

1356
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,000
city.

1357
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:37,280
» Okay. Um well hold on. So

1358
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:40,880
» That's a long motion. So that's your

1359
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:43,119
your I guess proposal and do you want to

1360
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,559
call for a straw poll or council member

1361
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,280
do you want to speak to the straw poll

1362
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:47,520
before we

1363
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,200
» I wouldateate one way or the other.

1364
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,680
» Okay. Council member Young.

1365
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,160
» So would it be possible to ask the

1366
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,599
administration what the impact would be

1367
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:59,520
related to the project and the funding?

1368
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:02,319
Like it would be helpful for me to know

1369
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,240
that before making like this type of

1370
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:07,240
change in allocation versus what was

1371
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,240
proposed.

1372
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:15,920
» Sorry. Um we have Blake Thomas. Um

1373
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:18,079
please tell us um Mr. Downtown. What

1374
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,760
impact would this have?

1375
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:24,240
» Um official title.

1376
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:26,480
» Um yeah, Blake, Mr. Downtown Thomas, uh

1377
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,079
senior adviser in the mayor's office.

1378
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,559
Thank you, Council Member Young. Thank

1379
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:32,400
you, council members, for your support

1380
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:34,880
um historically of the Civic Center

1381
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:38,880
project. The funding request that we

1382
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:40,640
have was very intentional. Um and so a

1383
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,000
reallocation of that funding would

1384
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,079
compromise the project and the

1385
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:47,280
timeliness. And part of that is trying

1386
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:49,119
to take advantage of a very

1387
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,480
serendipitous moment in time where

1388
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:54,480
there's uh philanthropic and business uh

1389
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,799
interest in the community to help fund

1390
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,920
the beautifification of downtown as it

1391
01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:02,880
relates to the 2027 Temple Openhouse and

1392
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:05,359
the 2034 Olympics. So our hope is that

1393
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,680
in our current recommended budget, we

1394
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:10,640
have $60,000 for green bike. We also

1395
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,960
have $40,000 for bike rack replacements.

1396
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,960
So, we hope to keep as much of that

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,720
funding as possible dedicated toward the

1398
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,440
civic center to get the project off the

1399
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,599
ground as we're currently undergoing a

1400
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,400
capital campaign feasibility study to

1401
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:26,559
try to use that 3 million as a a

1402
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,799
leverage or a match to the philanthropic

1403
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:30,400
community. So, we just heard some of

1404
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:32,319
those prospects and what the city's

1405
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,119
commitment is to that project. So, thank

1406
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:37,760
you for letting me speak to that.

1407
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:40,000
» Thank you, Council Member Pui. I would

1408
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,720
love to uh push a little more

1409
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:46,319
information on that. I I think the the

1410
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:49,920
option that is in front of us right now

1411
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:54,400
is for a small amount of money taken

1412
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:57,520
from a project. Um u and I will struggle

1413
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,720
with with the concept of shaving a

1414
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:04,079
little bit of money uh and and saying to

1415
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:07,039
me and me having supported this this

1416
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:10,079
project along the line. Uh but hearing

1417
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:13,039
that shaving a little bit of money uh

1418
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:16,000
will put it all in the garbage to me

1419
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:18,559
that's a little bit of a strain into the

1420
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:22,720
conversation. I So

1421
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:25,039
» Council member Dugan is asking for,000

1422
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:29,200
for his project.

1423
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:33,039
» The CDCIP suggested 2.76

1424
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:35,760
uh and a half uh to fund this. Could

1425
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:37,440
this project make a significant moving

1426
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,839
forward with that amount of money? That

1427
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:43,280
would be my my question. Could we still

1428
01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:45,359
show good commitment to this project? Uh

1429
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,480
and potentially not

1430
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:50,960
» Uh that would be my spin to Dugan's uh

1431
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:55,599
question. Uh but you could answer either

1432
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:57,599
way for his $50,000 or for the 99 half

1433
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:59,599
that the the mayor recommended.

1434
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:01,359
» Yeah. Um thank you, Council Member Pui.

1435
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:03,039
Just to be completely clear, I'm not

1436
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:04,720
saying the project would be thrown in

1437
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:06,640
the garbage. I'm saying that a

1438
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,559
reallocation would compromise the total

1439
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:12,160
amount that the city is committing for

1440
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:15,440
us to then go try to leverage. So, um,

1441
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,880
» Expl you explain that to me because I I

1442
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,400
don't understand what that means.

1443
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,079
» Yeah, I think this would be the first

1444
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,240
construction dollars that would be

1445
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:24,079
dedicated toward the civic block. So,

1446
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,200
our hope is to have as much money as

1447
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:29,440
possible from this eligible source to be

1448
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,680
able to go after grants, philanthropy,

1449
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:34,079
and other sources since it'll end up

1450
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:36,720
being probably a 15 to$18 million

1451
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:39,039
project. So, I don't mean to be

1452
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,720
hyperbolic in any way and completely

1453
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:42,400
understand where you're coming from. I'm

1454
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,400
not saying that it's throwing it in the

1455
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,559
garbage, but I'm just saying that the

1456
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,400
reallocation of the total amount that we

1457
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:50,880
can go try to leverage in the community

1458
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,200
would be compromised.

1459
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,440
Council member Petro,

1460
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,839
» Can I ask a little bit about that? As

1461
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,000
someone who

1462
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:02,079
fundraises professionally,

1463
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,319
um the uncertainty in the world around

1464
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:06,160
us and competing demands is making

1465
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:08,640
fundraising difficult as it never has

1466
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:11,200
been. I'm also not a large municipality

1467
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,680
with a lot of other off benefits to

1468
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,160
offer. So, as I'm looking at this being

1469
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,079
20%, you know that like I I want the

1470
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,079
green loop ultimately. It's something

1471
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,799
beautiful we deserve to have. I still

1472
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:24,640
struggle with how we rank it as a

1473
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:27,119
priority when we have so many competing

1474
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:29,520
priorities and an increasing number of

1475
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:32,640
priorities given to us from federal del

1476
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,559
dereliction of duty all the way down. So

1477
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,359
can you you don't have to do it on the

1478
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:40,720
public record but if we're going to give

1479
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:43,280
seed money any angel investor

1480
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,119
would say what are the other prospects

1481
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,000
how far along are we in them what are

1482
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:50,640
some soft commitments we have made

1483
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,920
giving 20% to something that we want and

1484
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,000
I would be even more aggressive I would

1485
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,599
shut 200 east all the way down and

1486
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,720
actually just green it all the way

1487
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:57,920
through I think you're actually being

1488
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,599
conservative in what you're presenting

1489
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:04,079
to us um

1490
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:07,440
if we're being asked to prioritize this

1491
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:09,039
at this moment above all else, knowing

1492
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,160
that we probably have another three

1493
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:15,200
cycles of true difficulty ahead of us at

1494
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:18,000
minimum, um I'd like to see what we've

1495
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:21,359
prospected and what the what the honest

1496
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:24,880
to God leveraging opportunity is to make

1497
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:28,880
sure this 20% does realize into what we

1498
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:31,120
need it to, especially if we're going to

1499
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,040
not allocating it to other very concrete

1500
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,359
things that we know we need and that

1501
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:39,520
will make a difference. Um and then the

1502
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:41,520
other thing not for Mr. Downtown is um

1503
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,080
bike racks on the west side don't just

1504
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:47,199
need to be physically there. We need

1505
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:49,359
assistance securing them. I have yet to

1506
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:52,159
find the U-lock that isn't cut while

1507
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:54,640
people are in the Smiths on 700 North

1508
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:56,319
leading people to not want to bike on

1509
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,319
the west side because there is no way

1510
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,679
for us to be guaranteed that our mode of

1511
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:02,560
transportation will be there when we

1512
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:04,960
come out. So if we are going to allocate

1513
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,640
additional money to bike racks, I would

1514
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,600
like part of it to go towards

1515
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,719
understanding what the best technologies

1516
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,799
options that not only allow us to like

1517
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:16,960
use our own locks, but promote the

1518
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:18,640
highest level of safety for people if we

1519
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,880
honestly want them to use them as

1520
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:26,319
transit.

1521
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:28,719
» Thank you. Um just Yeah. Uh I'm going to

1522
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:32,799
go first and because we have and then

1523
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:34,239
I'll back to you. Um, so and is it about

1524
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:38,799
council member Dugan's request for a

1525
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:41,120
straw hole? Okay. So, I also have a a

1526
01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:43,199
constituent request for a bike rack that

1527
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:46,560
I thought would be a very simple and

1528
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:50,000
easy thing. Um, it is not it is going to

1529
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:52,159
be extremely expensive. Um, I understand

1530
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,920
that and I really want to be able to

1531
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:59,520
deliver on that request. However, I also

1532
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:02,719
have conversations weekly with

1533
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:06,080
constituents about Green Loop and trying

1534
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:07,520
to understand like what it is, where are

1535
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,800
we in the process, how much is it going

1536
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,360
to cost, where is the money going to

1537
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:15,040
come from, when does it start, what is

1538
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:18,719
all of those things. Um, and

1539
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:22,080
we, I feel like, have already started

1540
01:10:18,719 --> 01:10:23,600
going down the path of doing that, uh,

1541
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,760
of answering those questions and

1542
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,080
planning out, um, getting together

1543
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,080
enough of a of a coherent plan that we

1544
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,199
actually know how it how much it is

1545
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:35,040
going to cost and how we're going to

1546
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:36,480
fund it. And I feel like, um, I am

1547
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,159
getting a lot more questions and

1548
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:42,320
pressure from residents about wanting

1549
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:44,480
answers on that um, than I

1550
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,159
as than I am about bike racks. And while

1551
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,679
I want to deliver for my constituent on

1552
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:52,560
bike racks as well and this would help

1553
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:56,320
me do that. Um we also

1554
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:58,800
um I would point out have about like 13

1555
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:02,000
minutes left um dedicated to this

1556
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:04,719
discussion and um this is our fourth

1557
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,320
briefing on it and we're we're not we're

1558
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:07,679
taking steps backwards instead of

1559
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:11,920
forwards. we have to get through this

1560
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:14,320
CIP so that we can vote on it. And um so

1561
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:17,920
I'm not inclined to

1562
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:20,159
in the in all of that context also add

1563
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,800
more than what the project is being a is

1564
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:24,960
being asked of us. So I am not going to

1565
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,640
support that, but I do understand the

1566
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,280
situation and I appreciate council

1567
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:31,840
member Dugan raising it except that we

1568
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:35,360
really don't have time. Um, so I'm gonna

1569
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:37,040
give you a very very quick speech and

1570
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,560
moment and then council member Young and

1571
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,280
then we just need to move forward with

1572
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,360
the straw hall.

1573
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,199
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I I echo your

1574
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,880
sentiment. I think we had opportunity.

1575
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:46,400
We've we've had conversations like this

1576
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,440
where we've raised it.

1577
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:51,440
» Um, again, I have equally a request like

1578
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:54,000
that in my district. Um, and we're going

1579
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:56,159
through that process. And so I will not

1580
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:59,840
be voting in favor of this straw poll.

1581
01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:02,320
Um, and again, I just want to highlight

1582
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,520
number 25. I brought that early on to

1583
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:08,719
this uh council and I'll be uh I hope to

1584
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,280
ask a question to um John Larson and his

1585
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:12,560
team as well as uh uh transportation

1586
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,000
because that's considered even though

1587
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,920
it's a public lands project, it's a

1588
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,679
transportation project and we have more

1589
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,600
information from their staff. So, that

1590
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:20,320
being said, that's all I wanted to to

1591
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,640
state on the record.

1592
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:25,040
» Thank you, Council Member Young. So, I'm

1593
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,159
wondering if there might be an

1594
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,840
opportunity in a future meeting um from

1595
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:31,600
the administration, whether in our

1596
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,080
monthly update or whatever that looks

1597
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,000
like, just to also get a broader

1598
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,440
understanding about where we have

1599
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:42,239
existing projects that may include the

1600
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:44,640
opportunity for bike racks to be able to

1601
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:46,880
present a more holistic picture. I'll

1602
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,640
give one example. I know that we're

1603
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,120
having a conversation around Fairmont

1604
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:53,679
Park and potential improvements for that

1605
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,600
area moving forward. Maybe there could

1606
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:58,159
be like a bike rack or something like

1607
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:01,280
that just to be able to kind of more

1608
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:02,719
holistically address the um concerns

1609
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,719
that Council Member Dugan was

1610
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:07,040
reflecting. So, just wanted to put that

1611
01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:09,120
out there as a potential ask

1612
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:12,640
» With the power vested in me by Jill

1613
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:14,960
Love. I totally support that request.

1614
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,960
» Thank you. Um, we'd be happy to do that.

1615
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,040
And I think that that's a good problem

1616
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,840
is this demand for that kind of

1617
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,080
infrastructure.

1618
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,040
» Thank you. Show your feelings

1619
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,719
» On the straw.

1620
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,960
» Yes. On the straw pole.

1621
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:30,159
» The straw poll is to take money from the

1622
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:34,320
the Yeah. 50,000 from Green Loop and put

1623
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:37,040
it to um the um green bike. Oh, I'm

1624
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:39,840
sorry. I'm a down. Okay. We have one

1625
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,400
thumbs up. We have four thumbs down. We

1626
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,520
have some

1627
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,760
Dan's a thumbs up

1628
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,840
» And oh sorry and Dan Dan is a thumbs up

1629
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:52,239
and um council member Petro is a thumbs

1630
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:54,640
down. So that um does not uh indicate

1631
01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:57,840
enough support. Um of course that's not

1632
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,880
a final decision but let's move on.

1633
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,600
» Thank you very much.

1634
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,480
» Thanks.

1635
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,560
» Um Tom Mar would like to come up briefly

1636
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:06,400
and talk about

1637
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,800
number 25.

1638
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,600
» Okay.

1639
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,560
» Be quick.

1640
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,560
» Yes, I will. Um, and if there are any

1641
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,320
other questions about any of any other

1642
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,120
public lands applications while we're

1643
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:22,159
here, be happy to answer those. Um, in

1644
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,000
attachment seven for this agenda item,

1645
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,679
um, one of the questions that we

1646
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:30,080
answered was how we could potentially

1647
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:31,760
break up the 1200 East um, the East

1648
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,000
Central Community Council's 1200 East

1649
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,320
median restoration proposal application.

1650
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:40,159
To note that that is not the other 1200

1651
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:43,360
East um, application. uh between 300

1652
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:45,120
south and 500 south. Um what we had said

1653
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,800
uh in those answers and what we said in

1654
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,480
the application is that we had worked

1655
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:52,000
with the constituent to develop kind of

1656
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:54,320
two funding scenarios. One would be the

1657
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,400
full funding of completely rebuilding

1658
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,400
those those medians the islands for

1659
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,239
those two blocks. uh completely

1660
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,159
replacing the irrigation, all of the

1661
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:05,600
sod, adding in other water- wise

1662
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:09,199
plantings and and water saving features,

1663
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:11,440
art benches, new trees, uh new median

1664
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:13,360
island noses that stick out farther into

1665
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:16,159
the intersection and slow down traffic.

1666
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:19,120
We also developed a partial scope

1667
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:21,520
funding that has fewer trees, partial

1668
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,679
sod replacement, still the irrigation

1669
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:26,159
system replacement, and uh curbing

1670
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:29,520
gutter replacement. Um, I would also

1671
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:31,600
like to note in last fiscal year CIP uh

1672
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,880
council approved several hundred,000 for

1673
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:37,040
irrigation uh replacements especially

1674
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,080
and the locations we had identified were

1675
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:42,320
especially in park strips, medians in

1676
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,320
those spaces that offer that that green

1677
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:47,040
space in areas that have very little

1678
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:50,800
green space. Um, we could use some of

1679
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:56,320
that for the roughly

1680
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:58,640
um 200 or $220,000 of that partial scope

1681
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:01,199
that is for irrigation and and

1682
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,199
landscaping. We could not use it for the

1683
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,960
curb and gutter though. And if we were

1684
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:06,880
to not replace the curb and gutter, but

1685
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,560
were to replace the irrigation system,

1686
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:12,080
it's likely that that irrigation system

1687
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:15,440
would just break over again. Um, so a as

1688
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:18,239
I say that, um, uh, would love to ask,

1689
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:20,880
um, council to to consider the

1690
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:23,600
possibility of funding at least the curb

1691
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,760
and gutter replacement of those median

1692
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,679
islands and then the irrigation

1693
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,679
replacement or repairs um, could at

1694
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:30,880
least be partially covered by existing

1695
01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:33,280
funding.

1696
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,199
» Council member Lopez, thank you for that

1697
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,040
and I really appreciate the report. I

1698
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:39,199
know that you're working diligently to

1699
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,280
find um, available funding. That being

1700
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:43,040
said, I wanted to ask, as I understand,

1701
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,560
curb is something that the cost center

1702
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,679
goes under transportation. Is that

1703
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,040
correct?

1704
01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:48,880
» They or they oversee it.

1705
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,520
» The So, we could replace the curb and

1706
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:54,400
gutter with public lands funding.

1707
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,640
However, if it wasn't if this project

1708
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,040
wasn't funded, we couldn't use our

1709
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,520
irrigation and landscaping funding to go

1710
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,480
replace curs. But yes, those medians are

1711
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,920
our purview and and we could uh repair

1712
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,600
them if the funding was available.

1713
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,960
» Okay? because I know I've highlighted

1714
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,040
this to my colleagues. I just want to

1715
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,280
mention they're currently dead. There's

1716
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:16,480
broken irrigation. They're used as

1717
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,080
parking lots in uh unfortunately during

1718
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:20,239
University of View events and other

1719
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,920
types of events here. That being said, I

1720
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:24,159
wanted to ask if there's any other

1721
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,159
excess funding in transportation or

1722
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,679
related to cur curvature projects that

1723
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:30,719
could be utilized so that we're not

1724
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:33,679
having to absorb this dire need through

1725
01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:35,280
CIP this year.

1726
01:17:33,679 --> 01:17:37,520
I don't know if I could answer that

1727
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:40,719
question,

1728
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,679
but John's here.

1729
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:43,920
» Yes,

1730
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:48,480
» Council Member Puy.

1731
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:51,120
» Thank you. The removal the curve uh

1732
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:57,679
it's $210,000

1733
01:17:51,120 --> 01:18:01,040
and the um the regations is 150. What to

1734
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:03,920
summarize what you requested or if we

1735
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,880
could do something you you said to to

1736
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:10,880
replace the curve and the the the

1737
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:13,600
irrigation system. Is that what you were

1738
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:15,520
about like contingencies or design? Do

1739
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,560
we need to allocate more money? Could we

1740
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:20,960
do these things separate?

1741
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:24,159
Um, I would have to run numbers on what

1742
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,760
the what the contingency and inflation

1743
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:27,920
factor and those other soft costs would

1744
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,920
would be, but if we just did the

1745
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:32,320
replacement of the curbon gutter, the

1746
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,000
irrigation system replacement, I would

1747
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,520
recommend the partial sod replacement

1748
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,440
and then those soft costs, I could

1749
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,400
calculate that, but it would probably be

1750
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:43,360
still in excess of three or $400,000.

1751
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:46,800
But the total of the partial scope cost

1752
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:50,400
estimate is just less than 600,000.

1753
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:52,719
And then the total for the full scope uh

1754
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,480
was a little bit more than 950,000.

1755
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:56,320
» But I think your question is related to

1756
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,640
just the curb. Is that correct? The

1757
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:01,920
$200,000 that they have access that

1758
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,360
could be utilized for irrigation.

1759
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,120
» I mean, yeah, I'm trying to figure out.

1760
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,600
So you also mentioned that you could

1761
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:11,199
potentially pay find the funding for the

1762
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,960
curve from other areas that are not CIP

1763
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:14,239
or is that you're saying that it needs

1764
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,000
to come from CIP?

1765
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:17,679
» So I believe you say irrigation. He

1766
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,600
could use existing irrigation funding

1767
01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:21,760
that was allocated by council last year

1768
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,679
to help fund the irrigation part. We

1769
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,120
don't have any current curb and gutter

1770
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:27,520
funding in public lands that could be

1771
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,960
allocated towards this. That's what I

1772
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,880
was trying to say.

1773
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,600
We'd have to look at um for the the

1774
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:37,280
curbon gutter I think could be eligible

1775
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:40,560
under like street reconstruction funding

1776
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:42,640
um which generally the streets are

1777
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:46,400
reconstructed based on on the pavement

1778
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,199
condition and then and and then we we

1779
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,880
look at the the street like all all the

1780
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,120
curb gutter along that street and fix it

1781
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,600
at the time. It's usually not driven by

1782
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:58,640
the curb and gutter, but in this case,

1783
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,960
um that's something especially if it was

1784
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:04,960
direction from council, we could look at

1785
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:06,400
some previous um allocated street

1786
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,760
reconstruction or complete street

1787
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,400
reconstruction funding um and move some

1788
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,440
of that to uh replacing the curbon

1789
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,120
gutter here.

1790
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:17,040
» So, if I'm understanding correctly, we

1791
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,960
could add a contingency on existing

1792
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,120
funding to just look at the curbon

1793
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,640
gutter. So that way we can deploy

1794
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,400
irrigation

1795
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:28,560
funds on the medians. Is that accurate?

1796
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,880
» Um I don't know that I would word it in

1797
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,520
that way that um because the budget has

1798
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:36,320
already been adopted, the opportunity to

1799
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,560
put a contingency on it is has passed.

1800
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,719
So you don't have the ability to put a

1801
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:43,120
contingency on existing funding. If the

1802
01:20:40,719 --> 01:20:47,120
administration is amendable, they can

1803
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:49,120
decide to deploy existing budgeted funds

1804
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,800
in a particular way, but the

1805
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:54,400
administration would have to decide that

1806
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:57,040
unless the council went in and um

1807
01:20:54,400 --> 01:21:00,000
altered it in a budget amendment. So, I

1808
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:02,080
think a future budget amendment would be

1809
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,560
um if unless the administration is just

1810
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:07,679
willing and ready to do that project,

1811
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:09,199
and I think that would be great. Um the

1812
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:11,840
council could do it in a budget

1813
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:14,560
amendment. I would I I guess I hesitate.

1814
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:17,280
Um the only hesitation I have is making

1815
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:19,440
sure that the administration does have

1816
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:22,400
sufficient funds to deploy those funds

1817
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:25,120
in that way and that the administration

1818
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:27,120
is supportive of using those funds in

1819
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,960
that way because those funds have

1820
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,960
already been adopted.

1821
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,920
» Okay. Um,

1822
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:36,320
» Yeah,

1823
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:38,960
» I um we can steal about 10 minutes from

1824
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:41,679
another Oh,

1825
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,920
» John, before we do that, we can steal

1826
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:46,080
about 10 minutes from another discussion

1827
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,320
item and then that's all that we have

1828
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,000
left to Kate. Have we made it through

1829
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,280
all of the ones that were recommended

1830
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,080
for funding?

1831
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,880
» There's one more. It's number 62 and

1832
01:21:54,080 --> 01:22:01,600
that is funding for vacant properties

1833
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,840
for um um Fisher mansion some historic

1834
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:08,000
rehabilitation and then for fleet block

1835
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:12,639
pre um pre-esign I believe for the

1836
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,719
public space. So um that's the last one.

1837
01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:17,040
» Okay.

1838
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:19,920
Are there how many more proposals are

1839
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,840
there to shift funds around? You have

1840
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,000
one.

1841
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,000
Council member Mono, do you have any?

1842
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,719
Council member Young, Council Member

1843
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,199
Petro,

1844
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:33,600
» Thank you so much for being so go with

1845
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:36,000
the flow.

1846
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,800
» Um, okay. I also

1847
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,040
» I I know. Hold on. I also don't have any

1848
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,639
more. Um, Council Member Dugan, are you

1849
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,719
going to be making any more proposals to

1850
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:45,679
shift funds around?

1851
01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:49,120
» No, sir.

1852
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:51,120
» Okay. So, I with the 10 minutes that we

1853
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,760
have left, I I know we want to hear from

1854
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,880
John, but I also don't know how much

1855
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,120
discussion we're going to want to have

1856
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:03,000
on this point. And this is all we've

1857
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:03,000
got. So, how long is your answer?

1858
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:08,880
Can it be in one sentence?

1859
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,760
» Can we get back to you for next week?

1860
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,760
» Thank you.

1861
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,159
» Yeah.

1862
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:16,639
» Great. Council, would you like to make a

1863
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:19,040
straw poll at this time?

1864
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:20,560
Well, there's there's no money. I was

1865
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:23,040
looking I was looking for an answer to

1866
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,719
see if that's something that they have

1867
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,080
funds to deploy. It sounds like that's

1868
01:23:24,719 --> 01:23:28,719
something that we'd either have to talk

1869
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,800
as a budget amendment at a later time.

1870
01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:33,120
» Uh that being said, since it is on the

1871
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:35,520
record, I just want to recognize this is

1872
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:38,400
uh eight years in the making of the CIP.

1873
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,920
I've brought this up. Um although yes,

1874
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:43,199
we're looking to replace irrigation

1875
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,880
system, the dire need of the curb. This

1876
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:46,560
is misutilized green space. Could you

1877
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,719
imagine the green loop if it was used as

1878
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,560
a parking lot?

1879
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:52,719
» So, this is the conversation we're going

1880
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,760
to hear from neighbors later today.

1881
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:56,960
» Okay. Do you want to make a strap poll?

1882
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,880
» No. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1883
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,320
» Okay. Thank you. Council member,

1884
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,320
» Can I ask a question that goes on with

1885
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,080
it? Are there easy going?

1886
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,760
» Are there are there tools available to

1887
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,360
us? Like I I love this that there might

1888
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,199
be other ways to fund this. I'm I'm

1889
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,120
happy with it. What I'm worried about is

1890
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:14,639
that it be falls off our priority list

1891
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:16,400
after the conversation. Um outside Is it

1892
01:24:14,639 --> 01:24:18,719
a legislative intent or is there a tool

1893
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,000
we can employ now to make sure that I

1894
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:22,239
will not think of this again because

1895
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,920
it's not my district and we have so many

1896
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:25,280
other things. I don't want to lose track

1897
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,840
of this. This is a commitment that we

1898
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,360
need to make to these neighbors. Um I

1899
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,679
think we could absolutely include it as

1900
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:35,600
a legislative intent um when you adopt

1901
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:37,120
CIP. And I think the I mean we can

1902
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,199
brainstorm as staff to figure out what

1903
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,880
the most appropriate next step is. I

1904
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:42,080
think in my mind I think the most

1905
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,080
appropriate next step would be a budget

1906
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,840
amendment just because then it's it

1907
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,360
stands out. It stands alone as its own

1908
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,080
project. It doesn't kind of get lost in

1909
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,840
the departmental um you know other

1910
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,440
priorities in the department. And I and

1911
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,800
I wonder if between now and the next

1912
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:57,440
budget amendment, we can work with the

1913
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,840
administration to figure out, you know,

1914
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:01,840
c does it need to come can can it come

1915
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,440
from fully from within existing

1916
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,080
department budgets and it's just

1917
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:08,080
reallocating existing department budgets

1918
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,480
or does there need to be some infusion

1919
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,880
from like fund balance for to to make up

1920
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:15,040
some difference. So, between

1921
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,560
transportation and public lands, I think

1922
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,400
we'll have a few follow-up conversations

1923
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,239
to figure out like exactly what that but

1924
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:23,360
it can be a council added item in the

1925
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:24,960
next budget amendment. Um, and we can

1926
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,719
adopt a legislative intent, I think, so

1927
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,080
that we don't forget it.

1928
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:29,840
» I don't want to trample you, but I'm in

1929
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,120
support of anything that helps keep this

1930
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,920
top of mind.

1931
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:36,960
» Thank you, Council Member Puy. Go ahead.

1932
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:39,600
» Thank you. I Okay, join me for the this

1933
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:42,239
fun ride. I So, number 41 is Glendale

1934
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,920
traffic calming. Uh it this is a a

1935
01:25:42,239 --> 01:25:46,719
project that is uh very important to

1936
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:49,840
district 2. It's uh it's on California

1937
01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:52,320
Avenue. Uh and uh the community

1938
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,480
organized themselves to uh for several

1939
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,800
years on a row to study the

1940
01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:00,639
intersections uh of California and

1941
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:04,000
Navajo with Mountain View uh elementary

1942
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:05,760
um you know and Glendel Middle School uh

1943
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,920
and all the traffic issues. There's a

1944
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,120
lot of kids. Those are schools that are,

1945
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:13,040
you know, growing and and very very

1946
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,840
important to the to the to the community

1947
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:19,360
as a whole. Uh they submitted a CIP

1948
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:20,800
years ago that we funded uh to study uh

1949
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:24,800
what improvements to do in these

1950
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:27,920
intersections. Uh and 41 is the result

1951
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:30,320
of that study. Uh it basically requests

1952
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:32,560
almost half a million dollars in in in

1953
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:36,560
improvements. That's a lot of money that

1954
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:39,520
we are we seem not to have. Uh but phase

1955
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,840
one uh potentially we could do this in

1956
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,000
phase in phases and we're talking about

1957
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,880
safety uh you know we we heard a lot

1958
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,360
about this year different u uh public

1959
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:52,159
safety uh requests and I would like to

1960
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:55,440
make an argument to fund partially phase

1961
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:57,360
one uh which I to my understanding is

1962
01:26:55,440 --> 01:27:00,000
about $200,000

1963
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:03,040
uh of of phase one. Um, and I would like

1964
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:06,480
to uh propose if there's a if there is

1965
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:11,360
an amicable uh interest in uh in funding

1966
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:16,320
it uh to to um take $76,000 from number

1967
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:20,960
38 which is uh the uh phase three

1968
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:23,280
phase three on the uh uh

1969
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:26,000
public safety uh PV charging stations

1970
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:29,040
which is the phase the last phase of it.

1971
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,000
Uh uh and then uh

1972
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,520
» How much?

1973
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,440
» $76,000

1974
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,679
which is what we were told earlier that

1975
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:37,920
was the last phase of that project. So

1976
01:27:35,679 --> 01:27:41,040
we find still phase one and two the most

1977
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:45,600
expensive parts of it. Um and then uh

1978
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:48,960
take uh take $50,000

1979
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:53,360
from uh number 57 which is the the Green

1980
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:57,920
Loop um the Green Loop implementation um

1981
01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:00,159
initial commitment. Um And I that is

1982
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,880
really where I would like to stop. It's

1983
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:05,040
it's giving some tools to the to the

1984
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,800
department to uh to see if they can

1985
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:12,320
leverage some other funds. That gives

1986
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:13,520
you $126,000 for um for public safety

1987
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,000
across the school.

1988
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:18,320
» How sorry, how much was it from 57?

1989
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,280
» 50.

1990
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:22,800
» Okay.

1991
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,400
» Okay.

1992
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,239
Um

1993
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,120
discussion to this item,

1994
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:27,760
» Mr. Chair.

1995
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,440
» Yes.

1996
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,760
» Um

1997
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:32,320
council

1998
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:35,679
» Member Pui, I don't know as much about

1999
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:39,520
the Glendale safety project.

2000
01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:41,520
If we only did the 70 some odd thousand

2001
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,440
from the electric vehicle charging, but

2002
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:46,639
not the additional 50 from the green

2003
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:48,719
loop. Would that be usable?

2004
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:52,880
» I think that's a Jordan Larson question.

2005
01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:55,040
I I will say u you know I I would love

2006
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,679
to,

2007
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:01,280
you know, phase one is about 200,000.

2008
01:28:57,679 --> 01:29:04,400
Um, you know, I'm trying to get them as

2009
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:07,360
close as possible to that. Uh, I don't

2010
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:09,520
know how much on a $3 million project,

2011
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,520
50,000

2012
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:14,159
derails it or shows that we're not

2013
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:17,679
committed to the the green loop. I been

2014
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:21,199
very supportive of it, uh, especially on

2015
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:23,920
this block. Um, and I still think that

2016
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:26,159
meets all the goals a bit in the middle

2017
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:30,960
um which I think it's a recipe of a good

2018
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:32,400
argument but um maybe we can ask uh you

2019
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,239
know John if he

2020
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:38,719
» John can you

2021
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:45,679
» So if it so that was how much 75 plus 50

2022
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:48,960
» So 126 126,000 versus 76,000

2023
01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:51,280
» What can you do with 126,000 on

2024
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:55,760
California.

2025
01:29:51,280 --> 01:30:00,480
» Um the the concrete speed humps or speed

2026
01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:04,080
cushions on wider roads are um coming in

2027
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:07,840
probably around 20,000 each. Um there

2028
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:10,719
are some like engineering fees and um

2029
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,560
mobilization costs that um the

2030
01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:15,280
contractors charge us. So the smaller

2031
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:19,840
the contract, the more those kind of

2032
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:23,280
extra fees are. Um but if it was kind of

2033
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:26,159
that that phase one just doing um speed

2034
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:29,440
humps on on one street

2035
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:32,800
then um we could probably package it

2036
01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:34,320
with one of one of the other um bigger

2037
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,840
traffic calming packages that already

2038
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,760
happening and so that would lower some

2039
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:41,440
of those those overhead costs. So, um I

2040
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:46,159
mean just to be safe, maybe assume

2041
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:49,120
25,000 per uh per speed hump or speed

2042
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:51,440
cushion.

2043
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:54,239
I don't know if will that answer you

2044
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:58,880
know I guess the options we have right

2045
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:01,440
now is either 76,000 alone potentially

2046
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:05,679
if you know if I can get some support

2047
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:07,440
here or um

2048
01:31:05,679 --> 01:31:09,440
you know is there a better number that

2049
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:11,199
you could obviously getting all the

2050
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:12,719
money is certainly ideal but

2051
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:14,880
» Is there a little more money that will

2052
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:18,080
make a difference here uh knowing that

2053
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,040
you're saying $25,000 is valid speed

2054
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,280
cushion

2055
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:23,280
So

2056
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,199
potentially that gives you three but not

2057
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:29,120
quite because there is engineering cost

2058
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:32,320
to all of that maybe two. Um is that I

2059
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:33,199
don't know if that answers

2060
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,480
» Or can repeat. I

2061
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:35,600
» I guess the reason I was asking the

2062
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:38,960
question is just I think I'm more

2063
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,440
comfortable with the first request and

2064
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:44,320
given what Mr. Downtown just told us

2065
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:46,320
about the green loop funding I I'm a

2066
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,080
little more hesitant to take money away

2067
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:52,400
from that request.

2068
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:55,360
Um, so I think if you're calling for a

2069
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,679
straw poll, I I feel comfortable

2070
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:59,840
uh with the the electric vehicle

2071
01:31:57,679 --> 01:32:02,560
charging one and I need a little more

2072
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,360
convincing on

2073
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,960
» Mr. Chair,

2074
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,280
» Hold on just a second. We got council

2075
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,360
member Petro first, then council member

2076
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,880
Dugan, then council member Pu or unless

2077
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,159
council member Pui is answering

2078
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,760
something directly from Darren.

2079
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:16,719
» I was just going to call for a vote.

2080
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,360
» Oh. Uh, do you, Council Member Petro, do

2081
01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:18,880
you want to speak to this?

2082
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,159
» I want to speak to this. Go ahead. If

2083
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:26,239
you look in the description, we have

2084
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:28,719
three schools in on this road, like not

2085
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:30,639
close by, like on the road. The school

2086
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:32,800
has the community learning center. So,

2087
01:32:30,639 --> 01:32:35,040
we have pregnant moms going there to get

2088
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:38,000
prenatal care. English is a second

2089
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:41,120
language. It is a refuge and it is one

2090
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,520
of the most dangerous places in the city

2091
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,199
and one of the most underengineered. Not

2092
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,320
for fault of the current transportation.

2093
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:50,239
It's what we inherited. I I I think

2094
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,560
you're being kind by only asking for

2095
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:54,480
that money and not asking for us to go

2096
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:57,840
back on the green loop to what was

2097
01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:59,840
suggested by the CDCIP board. This

2098
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,360
requires a level of investment and much

2099
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,760
like what we're committing to on the

2100
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,440
east side over on 11th east which has

2101
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:08,719
been forstalled for a long time. this

2102
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:10,880
outcry has existed for a long time. So I

2103
01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:12,560
I commend you for being as restrained as

2104
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:16,880
you are in your district and trying to

2105
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:19,600
meet us. Uh I think that if you ask for

2106
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:22,239
more this this issue augers that kind

2107
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,840
this these are literally children. Plus

2108
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,080
when you add in who goes to the library,

2109
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,719
who goes to the CLC, the the massive

2110
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,239
social function that that serves, it

2111
01:33:28,719 --> 01:33:33,360
it's without a question one of the

2112
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:35,840
things we have to be investing in.

2113
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:38,080
Council member Duggan. Um,

2114
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,679
» Michael, thank you and I appreciate the

2115
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,400
all the traffic comment discussions.

2116
01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:44,960
Now, how does this live uh align with

2117
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:49,120
the livable streets constructions and

2118
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:51,840
the zones on the on the in the area?

2119
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:54,480
I can't from the map I can't determine

2120
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:57,120
if this is in zone 7

2121
01:33:54,480 --> 01:34:00,560
or not as far as liberal streets or

2122
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:03,560
zone. Yeah, zone seven.

2123
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,560
Was

2124
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:11,920
it outside zone seven?

2125
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:16,840
» Looks like it might be zone 49.

2126
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:16,840
» Oh, it's zone 49. Okay,

2127
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:26,239
» That is an area where as council member

2128
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:29,600
uh said multiple schools.

2129
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:34,000
» Yeah. I I I wonder I mean my question to

2130
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:37,920
uh council member Mano uh is there any

2131
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:41,120
amount uh just so I can frame my uh you

2132
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:45,600
know is there any amount that if I made

2133
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:50,800
this number 100,000 so being 76 from the

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uh electrical uh PSB building uh and we

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01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,679
add you know the $24,000 to make it a h

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01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:59,880
100red uh is that something that still

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01:34:55,679 --> 01:34:59,880
like feels iffy to you.

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01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,239
» Can you remind me which number is the

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,120
green loop funding that you're wanting

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01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,000
to take from

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01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,360
» The which one?

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01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,719
» The the green loop

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01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:16,520
» Green loop is 57.

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01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:16,520
» 5 Okay, let me

2145
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:11,520
I'm not sure exactly how to answer your

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01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:13,760
question, but I

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01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,840
um

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01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:19,760
I'm hearing the arguments. I know the

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01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:21,520
traffic calming is important and I

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:25,360
understand that that street has three

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01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:28,000
schools. I I'm also

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01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:31,920
Um, it historically with traffic calming

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01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:34,480
requests, I've tried to go with what

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,800
we've done with data and and understand

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01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:38,480
the prioritization that was done by the

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01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,719
departments and and make sure that we're

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01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:43,760
funding as much of the traffic calming

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01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:45,280
money in that main livable streets line

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01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:49,040
item, which I think we have 2 million

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01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:51,679
in. Um, so I guess I'm I'm not sure

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01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,840
exactly where I'm landing on that, but

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01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:58,639
» I would like to suggest a straw poll uh

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01:36:53,840 --> 01:37:04,880
to move $76,000 from the uh PSB uh

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01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:08,560
number 38 to uh the um to this uh to

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01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:11,960
this line item 41. Um that is my straw

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01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,960
poll right now.

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01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:18,320
» Okay, we have um six thumbs up. Council

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01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:21,840
member Dugan,

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01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:26,000
» He's thumbs up. Okay. So, that is a

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01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:29,760
seven thumbs up for to reallocate 76,000

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01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:32,639
from um the um phase three of the

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01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:37,679
electrification of the polar electric

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01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:41,040
outlets, EV stations at PSB and um to

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01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:44,159
put it towards uh this project.

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01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:46,239
Any other discussion to this? Great.

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01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:48,960
because we're already over time. Good

2177
01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:51,960
job, everybody. We made it.

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01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,960
Um

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01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:58,560
» Oh, okay.

2180
01:37:56,719 --> 01:38:00,480
Do you have another shopple?

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01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,840
» No, I I think I'm going to uh I'm going

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01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:04,000
to work that one a little harder.

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01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:08,560
» Okay, thank you.

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01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:13,440
All right, great. So, um we are at

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01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:15,920
agenda item number three. Um, this is

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01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:19,520
anformational discussion on our safe

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01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:22,719
streets action plan kickoff.

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01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:25,719
Very timely after our streets safety

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01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:25,719
discussion.

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01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,239
Okay. So, with us, sorry, we have

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01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,760
Allison Roland from um the council

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01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:33,920
office. We have John Larson. We have

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01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:35,360
Jenna Simkins, uh, transportation

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01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:38,480
planner.

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01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,040
» Um, Allison, do you want to start us

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01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:42,080
off?

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01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,840
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh this plan is

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01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:47,760
focused on reaching zero traffic

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01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:49,679
fatalities and serious injuries by 2035.

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01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:52,639
The plan will be based on systemwide

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01:38:49,679 --> 01:38:54,719
approach to transportation safety and

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01:38:52,639 --> 01:38:56,480
use data to identify and prioritize

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01:38:54,719 --> 01:38:58,000
strategies for improvements. The

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01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:00,400
division has been building consensus

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01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:04,080
among stakeholders across city, county,

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01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:06,080
and state actors including UD do and the

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01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,800
Wasatch Front Regional Council. So two

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01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:12,239
of the biggest fish. Um, and the final

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01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:14,560
plan is anticipated in spring 2026. So,

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01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:19,400
I will leave more detail on all these

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01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,400
items to John Larson and Jenna Simpkins.

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Okay.

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01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:24,480
» Uh, thank you for inviting us to come

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01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,239
and speak with you today. Um, my name is

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01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:28,480
Jenna Simpkins. I am the project manager

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01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:30,239
for the Safe Streets Action Plan. Um,

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01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:32,639
I'm going to be giving a brief overview

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01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:34,960
of why we are creating the plan, what an

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01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:37,280
action plan is, the underlying

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01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:41,600
philosophy behind it, um, and our

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01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:44,960
timeline. If you could hit next, please.

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01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:47,040
So, why are we creating this plan? Um,

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:50,000
in 2023, Mayor Menden Hall made a

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01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,920
commitment to uh, end traffic fatalities

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01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,880
and serious injuries in Salt Lake City

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01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:56,800
by 2035. This action plan will be our

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01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,960
roadmap to achieving that ambitious

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01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,639
goal. Um it also gives us a great

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01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,560
opportunity to be transparent and

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01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:04,159
accountable to the public. Uh we are

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01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,400
already doing good work to make streets

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01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:08,159
safer. Uh and we want to highlight the

2233
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:11,119
next steps we'll be taking um towards

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01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:14,080
this ambitious goal. The action plan is

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01:40:11,119 --> 01:40:16,880
a way for us to build consensus uh among

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01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:19,440
stakeholders. Uh we've been working with

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01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,119
UDOT and zero fatalities program and

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01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:22,880
also the Wasatch Front Regional Council

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01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:25,920
with the comprehensive safety action

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01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:27,920
plan. um because the reality is uh the

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01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,440
transportation division cannot achieve

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01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,159
this goal alone. We need a

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01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:34,159
multid-disciplinary approach.

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01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:35,920
And then lastly, an action plan is one

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01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:38,480
of the requirements from the vision zero

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01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:41,760
network for recognition as an official

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01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:43,440
vision zero community or city. Um the

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01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:46,000
vision zero network is a national

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01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:48,560
organization that provides resources and

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01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:50,880
guidance um to cities like ours that

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01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:53,199
want to stop traffic deaths and serious

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01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:55,280
injuries. Um we've already met some of

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01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:57,760
the other requirements which include

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01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:00,480
support from elected officials. Um

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01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:02,239
setting a target date of 2035,

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01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:03,760
identifying the high injury network

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01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:06,639
which is our streets that have a

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:09,199
disproportionate number of um deadly or

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01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:14,679
severe crashes. Um and then of course

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01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:14,679
the vision zero task force. Next please.

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01:41:16,639 --> 01:41:22,239
So uh briefly what is an action plan?

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01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:25,280
Um, a vision zero action plan identifies

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01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:27,199
and prioritizes datadriven, short-term,

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01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:29,840
multid-disciplinary strategies to end

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01:41:27,199 --> 01:41:31,920
traffic fatalities and serious injuries.

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01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,960
Our plan will be focusing on the next

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01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,639
five years. Um, we want concrete,

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,520
measurable strategies we can implement

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01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:41,440
in the short term. In 2030, we will look

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01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,679
to update the plan based upon what we

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01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:46,320
learn as we work to implement it. it's

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01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:48,320
likely we'll need to pivot and adapt um

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01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:53,719
based upon what we experience as we work

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01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,719
to implement the plan. Next slide.

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01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,639
So digging more into the strategies

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01:41:55,679 --> 01:42:00,960
we're looking at um the underlying

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01:41:58,639 --> 01:42:03,840
approach is the safe system approach

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01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:05,840
that will guide our plan. Um in a

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01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:09,119
nutshell it starts with the basic

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01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:11,679
understanding that humans are imperfect.

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01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:13,920
Humans will make mistakes and so we need

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01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:16,880
a system that when someone makes a

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01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:19,679
mistake when walking, biking or driving

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01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:22,239
um it does not result in a death or

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01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:24,159
serious injury. Um so that means that we

2286
01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:25,760
need to shift to acknowledging that

2287
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:28,320
responsibility is shared between the

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01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:30,320
system designers and the system users.

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01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,480
We need to be very proactive in

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01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:35,119
improving safety and we need to have

2291
01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:38,000
many layers of protection um to reach

2292
01:42:35,119 --> 01:42:40,560
this goal of stopping traffic deaths and

2293
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,719
serious injuries. So uh the strategies

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01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,199
in the plan will be uh in these

2295
01:42:42,719 --> 01:42:49,040
organized in these five categories um

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01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:53,119
safe vehicles, safe speeds, safe roads,

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01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:56,679
postc crash care and safe road users.

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01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:56,679
Next slide please.

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01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:02,480
Here's a rough overview of our timeline.

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01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:05,600
Um, so far we've been um working on

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01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:08,080
reviewing existing plans, policies, and

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01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,520
programs. Um, one of the challenges with

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01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,119
this project is we don't want to

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01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,040
duplicate good work that's already

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01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:16,000
happening at within the city and with

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01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,760
our external partners. Um, we've also

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01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:20,080
been undertaking stakeholder interviews

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01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,920
to gain more information.

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01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,000
We've kicked off a community engagement.

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01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,760
There's a survey online right now that

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,840
people can take to share their thoughts

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01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:30,080
about uh what they think we should do to

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01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:34,159
make streets safer.

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01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:36,080
Um later this year we will share a draft

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01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:37,600
version of the plan. That will be the

2316
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:41,360
second time the public can provide

2317
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:42,880
input. The key question there will be um

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01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,800
what out of all the strategies we're

2319
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:46,239
listing, what do you think is the most

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01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,639
important for us to do? What should we

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01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:50,400
do first? Basically,

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01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:52,159
um, based upon the feedback we hear, we

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01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:54,239
will update and finalize the plan over

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01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:56,400
the winter and then have a final version

2325
01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:58,719
of the plan in the spring. Um, we will

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01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:02,480
come back to you to present the plan for

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01:43:58,719 --> 01:44:05,360
your consideration for adoption. Um,

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01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:07,440
after that, assuming is adopted, we will

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01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,920
uh apply to the vision zero network for

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01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:12,080
recognition as an official Vision Zero

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01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:15,600
community.

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Next slide, please.

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01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:20,000
So that was a brief overview. Um I

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01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,320
wanted to uh thank you know again this

2335
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,480
is a multi-disiplinary effort uh and

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01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,000
we've had a lot of people helping us uh

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01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:28,000
helping the transportation division with

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01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,679
it. In particular I want to thank um the

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01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,040
city innovation team for all the work

2340
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:34,000
they are doing for the safe streets

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01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:36,239
action plan. Um I want to thank the city

2342
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:39,440
uh the citywide commun communications

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01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:41,199
team for their help in using shape SLC

2344
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:43,920
and uh thank the steering committee for

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01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:46,880
their uh work.

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01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:49,360
Thank you.

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01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:51,840
» Thank you.

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01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,800
» Questions,

2349
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,800
» Mr. Chair?

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,560
» Yes, Council Member Dugan.

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01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,239
» Thank you very much. And Janet, thank

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01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,400
you for the presentation. And John and

2353
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:03,679
Jenna, thank you for the the focus on

2354
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:07,440
this vision zero. Uh we can't focus, you

2355
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:09,280
know, using that same word. Uh and we

2356
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:11,040
need to continue to focus on this this

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01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:13,920
issue. It's probably one of the number

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01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:16,159
one issues I see in my district. I'm

2359
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,920
always getting requests about how we

2360
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:20,719
make our city streets safer for

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01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:22,560
pedestrians, bikers, drivers, all alike.

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01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:24,080
And we can't uh we don't have enough

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01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,560
funds for all the projects I want in

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01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:30,159
just District 6 uh because of this. And

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01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:31,840
so this is a really a great tool and I

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01:45:30,159 --> 01:45:33,679
I'm looking forward to the plan. I'm

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01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:36,480
looking forward to implementation and

2368
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:38,560
and pressing on with the livable streets

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01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:41,199
program and making sure we can move as

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01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,639
fast as we can. uh across the board on

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01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:46,119
all these areas. So, thank you very much

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01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:46,119
for the work.

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01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,480
» Council member Petro,

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01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:52,480
» Generally supportive of people crossing

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01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:55,360
streets safely and cars getting where

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01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:57,760
they go. Can I please beg even if it's

2377
01:45:55,360 --> 01:46:00,480
just in written form? I need to

2378
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:02,400
understand better maybe like a a matrix

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01:46:00,480 --> 01:46:04,560
of some sort that shows me what is

2380
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:07,440
complete streets versus what is livable

2381
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:09,280
streets versus what is vision zero? What

2382
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:12,159
what other things am I missing? Like I I

2383
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:14,320
just want to be sure I understand that

2384
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:17,280
in doing and I'm doing my job well in

2385
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:19,520
allocating resources.

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01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,400
» It's all in the depot district plan.

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01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,560
» It's all in the web

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01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:26,560
» The depot district plan which is not to

2389
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:27,920
be confused with yeah

2390
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:31,119
» We have actually been working on

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01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:34,320
» Insider council joke

2392
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:36,320
sorry um John go ahead. Um

2393
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,920
we are actually working on a on a matrix

2394
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:41,600
that we are excited to share with you

2395
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:44,400
soon. Um I was reviewing a draft of it

2396
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:47,280
this morning um for for this and all all

2397
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:49,679
the programs and um I have to admit my

2398
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:51,520
goal is to get something that you would

2399
01:46:49,679 --> 01:46:54,960
be willing to put on the your office

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01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:59,280
wall and so no pressure but uh would

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01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:05,360
mean a lot. Um so it it just a quick

2402
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:09,360
answer to um what what you said is um

2403
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:14,960
the the livable streets is focused on um

2404
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:18,719
local uh residential streets. Um the the

2405
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:21,199
vision zero program is focused on the

2406
01:47:18,719 --> 01:47:23,199
streets that have um a higher incidence

2407
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:26,719
of of injuries and fatalities which are

2408
01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:30,239
the the collectors and arterials. Um and

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01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:35,440
then um the the complete streets are

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01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:37,280
focused on um the uh

2411
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:38,719
basically building out the the

2412
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,800
pedestrian and bicycle and transit

2413
01:47:38,719 --> 01:47:46,239
master plans which um are are targeted

2414
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:47,760
at um fleshing out a multimodal network.

2415
01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:49,280
» It feels like sometimes when he funds

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01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,520
something it funds all three of them,

2417
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:55,639
sometimes it's only one of them. So it

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01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:55,639
would just help me as a reference

2419
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,280
Mr. Chair.

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01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:02,800
» Yes. Council member Pu.

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01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:08,080
» I I'm uh certainly this is you know this

2422
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:11,679
council has shown uh support to um to to

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01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:16,320
safer streets uh you know and and uh and

2424
01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:18,560
implementing uh with our with money uh

2425
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,480
you know making a difference in our

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01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:26,159
communities to to make our our roads

2427
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:31,119
safer for everyone. Um I um

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01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:34,000
what this plan would do as far as um

2429
01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:37,679
what weight of uh importance has it will

2430
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:41,280
it have guiding our future uh changes or

2431
01:48:37,679 --> 01:48:46,239
improvements and is this going to be uh

2432
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:48,480
suggested changes uh and are going to be

2433
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:51,199
either in policy or infrastructure or

2434
01:48:48,480 --> 01:48:54,719
both? uh and the question that I'm

2435
01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:57,040
asking relates to uh for example

2436
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:59,280
starting that with the current funding

2437
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:02,560
it will take us a 100red years to go

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01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:04,480
through um paving our streets to the

2439
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:08,400
level that we have identified that we

2440
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:10,960
need to pay pave um and I don't I always

2441
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:13,600
struggle with you know unattainable

2442
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:16,639
goals um and you know setting up a goal

2443
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:19,760
for ourselves that we will never uh be

2444
01:49:16,639 --> 01:49:22,960
able to accomplish So

2445
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:25,520
what will this study give us and uh you

2446
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:28,800
know are there different achievable

2447
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:31,840
goals that we can actually fund uh in

2448
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:34,239
the long term or short term?

2449
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:38,159
» Um yeah and I I think what's so exciting

2450
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:41,280
about this plan is that it really builds

2451
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:43,760
upon uh kind of like what Jenna talked

2452
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:46,159
about the the whole safe systems

2453
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,000
approach. So it's not just about the

2454
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:49,920
capital investment and that's really one

2455
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,679
of the big things that we've learned by

2456
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:56,080
um plugging into this national vision

2457
01:49:51,679 --> 01:49:59,360
zero network. Um I feel like we have the

2458
01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:02,480
through CIP we we've together have

2459
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:05,440
created some channels by which we can um

2460
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:07,280
continue to invest in in safer streets

2461
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:09,040
and um that could be accelerated on

2462
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:11,520
years where there's you know more more

2463
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:13,920
funding to to invest there. But to

2464
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:16,320
really get to where we need to go, it

2465
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:19,119
truly needs to be multid-disciplinary,

2466
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:21,840
not just within the city, but also um

2467
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:25,840
bringing in our our our partners um you

2468
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:28,960
know, and the the zero fatalities folks

2469
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:31,920
over at UD do and and the the state

2470
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:34,400
highway safety folks um have have been

2471
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,400
fantastic. and then um internal to the

2472
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:40,080
city. It it really is going to take

2473
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:43,040
everyone um to

2474
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:45,280
really work together and keep safety top

2475
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:48,000
of mind as we change the culture not

2476
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:51,119
just for um you know within the city

2477
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:54,960
government but across the city of just

2478
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:57,280
driving safely. And it's um not all of

2479
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:59,760
that necessarily requires

2480
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:02,159
uh funding. I mean, funding can fix a

2481
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:06,480
lot of things, but a lot of it is um

2482
01:51:02,159 --> 01:51:10,800
really changing that culture that uh all

2483
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:13,280
of us are are all in on um getting to

2484
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,719
zero fatalities. Um and I think a lot of

2485
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,000
people they're they're interested, they

2486
01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:18,960
want to help, but they don't know how.

2487
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,800
And so this makes it so that uh every

2488
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,560
employee in every department knows the

2489
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:25,679
role that they play in getting us to

2490
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:28,560
zero fatalities.

2491
01:51:25,679 --> 01:51:33,360
Any

2492
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:36,000
other questions? Okay. Thank you.

2493
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:38,880
Let's move on now to agenda item number

2494
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:41,440
four, which is an ordinance amending the

2495
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:44,400
administrative hearing process.

2496
01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:47,440
Um, we have with us Michael Sanders,

2497
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:49,840
council policy analyst. Um, we also have

2498
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:52,560
Arturo Garcia, director of finance

2499
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:55,119
operations, and Katherine Pascer, senior

2500
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:58,560
city attorney, available for questions.

2501
01:51:55,119 --> 01:52:00,639
Or maybe not, Katherine. Oh,

2502
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:04,119
» Katherine plans to join us online.

2503
01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:04,119
» Okay, great.

2504
01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:11,119
» Okay,

2505
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:13,520
» Michael, take it away.

2506
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:15,599
So the administration is proposing to

2507
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:17,840
consolidate the appeals process related

2508
01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:20,320
to license denial, revocation or

2509
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:23,280
suspension as well as civil infraction

2510
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:26,320
appeals. This will replace the current

2511
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:27,840
small claims process for formal appeals

2512
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:30,159
that is currently housed within the

2513
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:33,040
justice court with a new process

2514
01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:35,280
outlined in code section 2.75 which

2515
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,880
would be outside of the justice court.

2516
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,880
Over the past years, the Justice Court

2517
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:42,320
has handled an average of 30 formal

2518
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:43,840
appeal cases per year. So, if an

2519
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:46,080
individual wishes to contest an

2520
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:48,719
administrative citation or license

2521
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:51,119
denial, they may request an initial

2522
01:52:48,719 --> 01:52:53,520
written review by hearing officer at no

2523
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:55,360
charge. If they wish to contest that,

2524
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,440
they may request a formal appeal before

2525
01:52:55,360 --> 01:53:00,080
an administrative appeals officer, which

2526
01:52:57,440 --> 01:53:02,320
will have an $81 fee that can be

2527
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,920
refunded if the appellant prevails. And

2528
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,679
if the appellant wishes to further

2529
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:08,719
appeal, they may do so with the district

2530
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:10,159
court. Um, differences between hearing

2531
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:12,480
officers, administrative appeals

2532
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:15,360
officers was summarized as a table in

2533
01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:17,599
attachment one of the staff report. In

2534
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,840
addition to this new process, um the

2535
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:22,159
ordinance also contains other amendments

2536
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:24,639
to various sections of code related to

2537
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:26,239
license, namely the repeal of some

2538
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:29,119
alcohol establishment enforcement

2539
01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:31,280
provisions, amendments to petticad

2540
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:33,360
driver qualifications, and the repeal of

2541
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:36,400
motor vehicle insurance requirements.

2542
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:39,599
All of those were detailed on page four.

2543
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:41,679
Um with that, I'll end and hand it over

2544
01:53:39,599 --> 01:53:45,679
to Arturo.

2545
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:48,679
» Thank you, council members. Any

2546
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:48,679
questions?

2547
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:55,599
» Uh, it doesn't look like it.

2548
01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:57,360
» Michael,

2549
01:53:55,599 --> 01:53:59,280
» I must have heard it wrong. Did you say

2550
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,080
a $1 fee?

2551
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,360
» $81.

2552
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,719
» $81 fee.

2553
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,520
» $1. Okay.

2554
01:54:02,719 --> 01:54:08,320
» Thanks. That's all.

2555
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:11,840
» Okay. Any other questions?

2556
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:16,080
All right. You're off the hook. Thanks.

2557
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:20,239
» Um, okay. Let's move to agenda item

2558
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:22,800
number five which is a resolution um for

2559
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:25,679
the to add the city of holiday to the

2560
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,199
central Wasatch commission.

2561
01:54:25,679 --> 01:54:31,040
For

2562
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:33,760
this we have uh Austin Kimmel from the

2563
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:35,520
um council staff. We also have Jason

2564
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,119
Oldroid, senior city attorney. Where'd

2565
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,920
he go?

2566
01:54:37,119 --> 01:54:39,760
» Nope.

2567
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:42,480
» Sorry, council chair. I can I can

2568
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:45,679
» Nope. We have Mark Trail.

2569
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:48,000
um who's gonna join us on this item.

2570
01:54:45,679 --> 01:54:49,520
Austin, take it away.

2571
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,760
» All right, council members. Uh the

2572
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:53,840
Central Was Edge Commission is a local

2573
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,560
cooperative agency tasked with carrying

2574
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:57,840
out the mountain accord charter which

2575
01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:00,560
lays out proposals to address

2576
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:02,719
transportation, economic, environmental,

2577
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:05,360
and recreation issues in the central

2578
01:55:02,719 --> 01:55:07,920
mountains. Salt Lake City is one of the

2579
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:09,440
commission's founding four members along

2580
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:12,000
with Salt Lake County, Cottonwood

2581
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,679
Heights, and Sandy City. Since then, the

2582
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,159
commission has grown to a nine

2583
01:55:13,679 --> 01:55:18,480
jurisdiction commission. The proposal

2584
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:20,159
before you today would add the city of

2585
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:23,199
Holiday as a new member of that

2586
01:55:20,159 --> 01:55:25,599
commission. Under the terms of the local

2587
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:27,599
of the interlocal agreement, additional

2588
01:55:25,599 --> 01:55:30,480
members may be added by a majority vote

2589
01:55:27,599 --> 01:55:32,880
of all commissioners plus a vote by the

2590
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:35,360
legislative bodies of each member, which

2591
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:37,520
is the matter before you today. Holiday

2592
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:40,400
has already been provisionally approved

2593
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,520
as a new member. action must be taken by

2594
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:44,159
the end of the month. So, we've

2595
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:47,199
tenatively scheduled this item for a

2596
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:50,800
vote at the August 19th formal meeting

2597
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:52,880
and happy to take any questions. And

2598
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,480
Mark, did you have anything to add?

2599
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:58,040
» I didn't, Austin. Thank you. That was

2600
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,040
good. Um, background.

2601
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:06,000
» All right. Excuse me.

2602
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:08,880
Okay. Thank you. Um,

2603
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:12,000
lost my wig for my microphone here. And

2604
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:13,920
anyone have questions on this?

2605
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,560
Okay. Doesn't look like it.

2606
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:18,119
» Okay. Thanks.

2607
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:18,119
» All right. Thank you.

2608
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:26,159
» All right. We are on to agenda item

2609
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:28,080
number six. We we really skipped ahead

2610
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:31,920
in terms of making up time. Didn't think

2611
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:37,800
that would happen. Um do we do we have

2612
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:37,800
the um do we have Heidi Adler available?

2613
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:41,480
Alder, I mean,

2614
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:47,679
» I'm guessing not.

2615
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,119
» I'm checking online really quick. I'm

2616
01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:49,920
not seeing

2617
01:56:49,119 --> 01:56:53,040
» Heidi,

2618
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:54,560
» Mr. Chair, will you move?

2619
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:56,480
» Council member Pui,

2620
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:59,599
» Would you like to Would it be possible

2621
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:00,400
to move uh ahead on on item number

2622
01:56:59,599 --> 01:57:02,320
seven?

2623
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,880
» Um, number seven's a written briefing,

2624
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:03,280
actually.

2625
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,719
» Oh,

2626
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:08,560
» So that's Oh, yes, you're right.

2627
01:57:04,719 --> 01:57:10,239
» Yeah. So, I think we can actually just I

2628
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:14,000
mean we can go back and talk about CIP

2629
01:57:10,239 --> 01:57:17,440
some more if you want. Okay. Um or we

2630
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:18,080
can um just saunter until

2631
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,679
» Okay.

2632
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:22,880
» Until um Miss Alder is available.

2633
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:26,480
» Saunter it in.

2634
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:30,960
» Yeah. Okay. So, we're going to do that.

2635
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:32,960
Um just uh don't go too far, please.

2636
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:34,320
Okay.

2637
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:38,880
» How long?

2638
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:40,080
uh until she come until she shows up.

2639
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,239
» And it looks like she'll be joining

2640
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,119
online. So, we'll be watching for her to

2641
01:57:42,239 --> 01:57:47,159
join online.

2642
01:57:43,119 --> 01:57:47,159
» Okay, great. Thank you.

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our

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um board appointment available. Um so

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Heidi, can you hear me out there?

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» Yes. Can you hear me? Okay.

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» Yes, we can hear you.

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We just can't see you.

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» Oh. Oh,

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» We can. There you are.

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» Okay,

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» There I am.

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» We can see you. I just had something

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blocking my screen. Um, okay. So, this

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is your opportunity to tell us a little

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bit about yourself and why you are

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interested in serving um as a

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disciplinary appeals hearing officer for

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Salt Lake City. Um, so you can talk

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about your background and um, what you

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uh, hope to bring to this position. Um,

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and then we'll let you know if we have

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any questions.

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» Go ahead.

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» Um, hi everyone. My name is Heidi Alder.

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I am an attorney. I've been practicing

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since 2005. So when I graduated from law

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school, um, I bounced back and forth a

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little bit between um, law and my my

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first profession. Before I went to law

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school, I was a teacher in the

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classroom. Um, and in after about three

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years at a law firm, I ended up leaving

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the law firm and going back to teaching

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because I felt a lot more fulfilled in a

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classroom than as an associate at a law

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firm. But I also at that same time

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contracted with the state board of

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education to be a hearing officer, same

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uh similar capacity for disciplinary

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matters with regard to educators

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licenses. So it was a a rotating basis.

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I was called when needed and I would

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hear evidence and write decisions along

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with a panel of the Utah Professional

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Practices Advisory Commission. That's an

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11 member body. And every time there was

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a hearing, three members of that panel

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would be the the judges, so to speak.

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And I would administer the hearing as a

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hearing officer. So I would administer

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the hearing and write up a report. I did

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that for several years, about three

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years until the state board of education

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actually had an opening when I I went

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over to the state board, left my job as

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a teacher, second second time as a

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teacher back to uh work in the in law. I

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was an investigator with the state board

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of education, their professional

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practices advisory commission, and I

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also did work and and provided training

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in the legal department over there. So I

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did a lot of trainings on um a whole

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host of issues related to education law

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specifically but I did a lot of uh

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training about boundaries and about

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ethics and about um educator uh code of

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conduct.

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I was in that position until 2014

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when I left the state board of

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education. I went into uh semi-private

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practice uh semi employment with Weber

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School District. And ever since then,

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for the past 11 years, I've been

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part-time with Weber School District as

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their legal counsel and then part-time

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working privately with school districts

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across the state. I work with districts

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to help advise them on um a whole host

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of legal issues related to schools, but

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um human resources is a big aspect of

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that. And I also contract with districts

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as a hearing officer when school

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districts have employment terminations.

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So I have acted as a hearing officer in

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the educator licensing capacity and in

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public education employment capacity.

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And in the background of all that, I've

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spent time advising and consulting with

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primarily school districts and charter

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schools. um although I've taken on a few

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other clients about all things related

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to education law. So that that's my

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background.

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» Thank you. Um council members, any

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questions?

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Oh c I didn't know if you were just

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giving me a thumbs up or if you had a

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question. Council member Young.

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» Heidi, thank you so much. I have to say,

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not only do I love your background, um,

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coming from K12 education as well, but I

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think that it's so relevant to the

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conversations that we have here at the

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city. Um, so we're talking about public

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employees. We're talking about

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individuals who in many ways are

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responsible for the care and um,

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consideration of public resources and

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public benefits. um but also wanting to

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have a high standard for the individuals

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who are serving and representing our

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city. So, I'm super excited to have you

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um and bless you for the continued work

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that you do in K12. I know that it

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continues to be um quite the ever

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evolving landscape and we'll be excited

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to have that expertise helping us here

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in Salt Lake.

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» Thank you.

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» Okay, any other questions?

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All right, I think that's it. Thank you

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so much, Heidi, for uh being here today

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and answering our questions. And um

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thank you for your willingness to serve

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Salt Lake City.

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» Of course. Thank you so much for having

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me.

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» Thank you.

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» I'll log off now.

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» Okay. Thanks.

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» Bye-bye.

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» Um council members, um

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that uh brings us to our reports of the

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chair and vice chair. I don't have any.

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Do you?

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» I don't have any.

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» Okay.

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um and executive director. Okay, no

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announcements. And then um so yeah, then

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the last thing is a tenative close

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session. Um I um food is here, right?

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So, um

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we can once we vote on this, um if

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you'll go and get your food and then go

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down to the canon room for our close

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session and then um following the close

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session um we will be adjourned um until

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our formal meeting at 7. So, go ahead.

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Um

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» Mr. Yes.

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» I move that we enter close session for a

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strategy strate strategy session to

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discuss the purchase, exchange, lease,

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or sale of real property and to receive

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attorney to discuss attorney client

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matters.

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» Second. I have a motion from council

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member Mono and a second from council

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member Lopez Chavez. Any discussion?

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Seeing none, we'll go ahead and roll

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call it. Council member Petro,

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» Yes.

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» Pui,

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» Yes.

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» Mono,

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» Yes.

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» Lope Chavez,

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» Hi.

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» Dugan,

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» Yes. Young

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» I

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» And I am a yes as well. That passes

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unanimously. We'll be in close session

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and we will adjourn after that and

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reconvene at 7 for our formal meeting.

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Thank you.

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