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Calling this media to order its 2 p. m. August

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25th and welcome everyone. We're going to stand for the

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Pledge of Allegiance and then a moment of silence.

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See that. Okay, now we'll have roll call. Commissioner Schaefer.

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Commissioner Elfke Commissioner Patel. Present Commissioner Diggins, Chair Whitmore. Okay,

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now. Item number three, approval of minutes for the 3A

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and 3B budget work session in the regular meeting. Would

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anybody like to make a motion? Or does anybody have

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any corrections before we do? Any corrections, anybody? And here

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I would move approval submitted of both. My second, both,

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I don't see any need to change anything. Okay, so

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we have a motion of second, any other discussion. All

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in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries, thank you. Okay,

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now we'll do commission reports. Let's start at the end,

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Terry. Okay, thanks Carol. Something kind of unusual came across

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the screen, and I thought it was relevant to know,

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and it was an article originally that. Appeared in the

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Wall Street Journal and then covered by Apple News, and

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it had to do with a city surfside beach in

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South Carolina. And it kind of struck a nerve in

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that this city had engaged in a contract with a

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local contractor. The work had been done, and it was

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time for payment, and there had been communication. Between the

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public works director and the contractor. Well, that was all

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well and fine, and they were working out the details

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of final payment. So what occurred that caught my attention

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and brought it to my attention into Julie's was what

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kind of coverage do we have for cyber fraud. In

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that what occurred was through fishing. And it very crafty

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individual picked up on those emails between contractor and city

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and sent and made a very minor modification that the

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Most Highs would not have detected. Sending instructions to wire

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transfer the 545, 598 dollars in 30 cents. To an

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account that had nothing to do with the legitimate contract.

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So what resulted was just out of curiosity, I mean,

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normally this is covered in amendment A coverage in a

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general bond. Or through Arizona. So I sent the article

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to Julie. Julie did the research with our insurer. And

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to everyone's, I think, approval and appreciation. We do have

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that coverage. In fact, in place that would prevent it,

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could it have been detected perhaps there wasn't as much

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detail in the scrutiny of the request for payment, but

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nonetheless, the important part is for us. To insurance. It's

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called Fidelity Insurance. And I spent a couple years doing

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that before my banking career, and that's why the article

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caught my eye the first time. So the good news

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is we have coverage, should it ever occur to us,

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but it's in place. And we are protected. The other

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item I wanted to refer to is amendment three, and

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just disclose I've had some conversations with Randy and with

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Judy regarding the city, taking a position opposing amendment three.

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And I think after a lot of thought I have

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questioned the League of Cities to determine whether they're aware

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of any cities elsewhere in the state that have approved

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either by consensus or by resolution and opposition, that we've

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played phone tag back and forth with them. So I

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don't know that that's the case. But at this point

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in time, I don't think it's the time to take

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a position. And I think I will be writing an

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article. Personally. Which we're entitled to do because no dollars

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are expended on behalf of the city to state, at

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least my opinion, of the subject. And I would encourage

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other members to give that some thought and decide what

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they believe is the best position for them to take.

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Terry, that's a good idea. I know Joe McClash used

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to do that quite a bit, at the end he

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would sign his name and say me as a personal

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commissioner. Right. So yeah, that would be great. Though. Okay.

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Well, I encourage others to give that some thought as

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well, because I do think. The reason I thought it

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was important is. I think it would be helpful for

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our constituency to know where we stand. And we don't

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speak for the Commission. We'll be speaking for ourselves individually

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on the subject, and that it's going to be, I

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think, a pretty controversial issue. And I've tried to keep

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up with the commentary on primarily next door and others.

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And it's pretty evenly distributed between those who favor and

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those who oppose at this point in time, and we'll

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get into the facts in our own letters. Next subject

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is the police pension board. And I direct you two,

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it's in your packet in section four. The reports speak

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for themselves for both the past police pension board meeting,

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which was way back on July 15th. But in your

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packet, if you'd go to section four, I'm going to

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do something. This time that I haven't done before. I've

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offered the full report to any who want to see

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it, but there's two, I think, salient pages that are

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kind of summary. In nature. And that, again, this is

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a 16 million dollar line item that does not appear.

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On our financial statements. It's exclusively for the benefit of

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future retirement benefits for a police officer. So it's not

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on our financial statements as a city and municipality. So

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the first page, you see the pie charts. Is everybody

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there? It's in section four. I'll wait till you get

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there. So it went up a million and a half

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in value. In three months. I'll get to that. I

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need to know that investment guy. We're pretty well. The

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fund is very, very well advised by legal and administrative

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and certainly management. So the first page where the pie

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charts is simply a comparison over on the left of

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where the fund was in dollars and the pie chart

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gets down to which segments, those segments are delineated. On

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the bottom line items to tell you what those segments

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are of the entire portfolio. As Dana said, three months

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later, the latest report, June 30. So this represents three

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quarters of the physical year since September 30 is the

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physical year for us and certainly the fun. So yes,

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an increase from 14, 00789 to 16, 0122. More importantly,

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is a breakdown on the next page. Numbered at the

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bottom, page 22 of 119. And it'll give you kind

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of a reiteration in the first column. It gives you

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the line items or where the money is invested. In

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the totals. The net transfers, meaning interfund transfers, not new

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money, but buys and cells, where the money. What was

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sold and what was reinvested. Most importantly, contributions. The third

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column, you can see the 241, 000, 936 is the

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total dollars. From three sources primarily the city's contribution, but

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also police officers contribute six percent of their salary to

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this fund and the state. Offers some assistance. It had

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been averaging about Julie's not here, but Judy, you might

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remember about 46, under 50 for many, many years this

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year, I think. It bumped up to 62 or 63,

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000 from the state. Part of which goes to the

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fund. So, um, the others are distributions, meaning through the

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first nine months of the year, 150, 000, 205 have

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been paid out to our former officers, management fees, in

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total, uh, that would include all sources. Including legal. So

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the cost of the very highly qualified, I believe, advisors

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of this fund. Is really pretty minimal when you're considering

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a 16 million dollar fund. Other expenses for 38, 000,

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that could be a myriad of expenses allowed by. And

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these are all paid out of the funds, not in

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addition to the city. Um, Advilum tax. And then return

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on investments, you can see obviously amounted for a million

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two hundred eighty three thousand of that pretty substantial increase.

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And we were just the beneficiary of a rising tide

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and market. And in my opinion, a very well -

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managed fund, again, ending with a total balance. Again, we're

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almost three months, at least two months. Uh, away from

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this. So at the time at June 30, again, the

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16, 122, 000 dollar fund balance then. So I just

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thought it just fried a little extra time. I know

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not many want to take the entire report and read

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it. Uh, we do go over at every meeting. And

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I would encourage other members. Really get, again, it's not

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part of budgeting. It's not our responsibility. And we are

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told by the actuary what we have to. So it's

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not a discretionary issue when it comes to our budget.

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The actuary determines based on five year, uh, five year

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planning. And the good news is we have been on

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the higher side of our contributions. They have been raising

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and they did again for this current year, but it

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looks like, and we are hearing from the actuary that

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the trend line is going to be down. Uh, or

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the next five years because of, uh, operating results. So

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again, it's City funds, but earmark exclusively for our police

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officers'retirement, which has been, I think, a key. I think

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Chief, I've heard him say, I'm sure he'd repeat, one

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of the key elements in recruiting and retaining the best

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officers. Are available at the time when additions are replacements

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have to be made. Any questions on that. Yeah, Terry,

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does management fee item? Does that include both the legal

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and the investment part? Yes. That's pretty reasonable. Yeah. You

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know, I attended a couple of those meetings with you.

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Pretty impressive. I think it'd be good to continue attending

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this, Dan. Thank you, Tarek. You know. Okay. Um, Steve,

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do you have any? Well, I've got, I've got just

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a couple more things here. I'll definitely, May. And again,

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the Clean Water Committee, I don't want to, um, I

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don't really have any additional comments. But the Clean Water

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Committee from the last meeting, they meet again. Um, I

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think September, uh, 11. And then I hope everybody read

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it. Mark Church was interviewed. And I really appreciate and

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respect the honesty and his outing for, um, starm cleanup.

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He was very, uh, honest in his assessment of their

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city. And, uh, and I think I hope those who

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are somewhat critical of our city two years ago read

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that. Although we took some hits because we weren't as

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quick to respond. And so we got, um, our feed

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under us and knew we were a hundred percent in

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compliance with FEMA. But it's going to result in, I

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believe. And again, I didn't get a chance to ask

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Julie. I think Judy, you may know, I think we're

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going to recover either 97 or 98 percent. Of our

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full cost of restoration costs by virtue of the path

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we took. To get the work done. And it wasn't

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just for the debris removal. You know, we kept our

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state of emergency open so we can continue even over

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time of staff. And we had to use subcontractor. What's

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his name? Joe Payne. Yeah, we had third party inspectors.

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We're getting reimbursed for everything that it cost us to

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recover. So yeah, and I commend staff, all the training,

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it helped. And they were there and they were committed

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and everything was documented. So it really helped home speech.

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It did. Again, I really appreciate Mark's approach to this

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of taking the bull by the horns and earning from

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it and going forward. I think it indication of his

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honesty and value to their community. Yeah, Mark's doing a

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great job. And Mayor, from what I read too, they

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weren't, well, we always heard that they were not going

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to be compliant because they didn't go through the vendors,

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like the approved vendors. And is that kind of what

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I was reading that there's still a shortfall and they're

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not sure how they're going to get it because of

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that. They did not have pre - awarded contracts. They

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use local guys to remove their debris. And they also

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did not have the monitoring company, which is the other

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thing you have to have pre - awarded. You have

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to document where the trash came from where the debris

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came from to make sure it actually came from your

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city. So they had to follow the trucks. That's why

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you had different people sitting everywhere throughout the city as

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they were monitoring every truck, every truck had to be

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pre - weighed. It had to have a number on

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it. Everything was tracked. So, I mean, the paperwork is

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incredible in order to get rid of this from FEMA.

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And they also did not have a DEP approved debris

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site. We always kept ours. We've always had the approaches.

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We've always kept it. Um, up to date. And they

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just used bayfront park and it was not. I mean,

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it was. We knew we did it right. I hoped

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they were going to get reimbursed because their sister City.

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But yeah, that was pretty hard. Can you explain why

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we had to dump it here and then move it

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a second time? Is that part? Because the landfill was

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an hour and a half away. And for the truck

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to fill up and then take an hour and a

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half trip and wait in line to dump, it would

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have taken forever to get it off the streets. So

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you do a debris field so they can take short

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trips, get it out of the people's neighborhoods, dump it

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here. And then they crush it and it's less trucks

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going to the landfill. So there was a logical reason.

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There's an all science behind it. If smaller storms and

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if it's mainly just branches and things will, you know,

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you can maybe take the time to, um, drive it.

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But the bigger storms you tend to open up a

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degree. Site. Thank you. Years ago when we dredged all

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the canals in the city, we did the same. With

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the ball field. We dewatered it. Cause then that then

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it went to the landfill. They didn't charge us for

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any dumping fees. But we let it sit for a

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while. I think you have to all the time, don't

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you know? No, they do it in bags. Oh, they

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do. Oh, okay. That's new. Okay. Yeah. I feel bad.

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Um, you know, Mayor's short inherited what the actions were

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in the past. But you know, everybody was trying to

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do what they could do. And we just hope that

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they can get some money back. I'm sure we all

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feel that way. Right. I think our patients paid off.

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Right. Yeah. That's all I have, Carol. Thank you. Steve.

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Yeah. Um, so next week waste pro is going to

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be kind of auditing around the city, um, cans that

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are supposed to be side door service, making sure that

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that's all still accurate. Um, if there are any concerns

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about side door service, um, JT asked for people to

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reach out to code compliance so they can get involved.

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Um, they're also code compliance JT's team is going to

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be focusing on, um, house numbers and addresses. They really

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need to get everybody, you know. Properly identified for safety.

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First responders and for even for making sure even with

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Waze Pro and making sure they have the right. House

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for the right services of Worth. Um. They also, um,

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came up with the new. Signs for, and I was

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just given this. Maybe you might be able to help.

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Make sure I'm correct with this. For the beach ends.

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They're going to be wrapping the trash can. So I

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think this may be on the trash. Is it a

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wrap or is it just a sticker? Might be just

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a sticker. I think the trash cans are going to

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be identified by a new color. They're going to be

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brown with a blue top. And those are going to

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be specific to the beach ends. So they know which

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ones are theirs. Um, and then those are going to

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be stickers that go on them. Unplastic your life.

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And then this is a cool Bigfoot one that says,

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leave no trace. Another good message. That resonates with the

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current popularity of Bigfoot these days, I guess. Um. I

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love Bigfoot. Yeah. And I did ask JT and I

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ended up communicate with Jason about the sea turtle disorientation.

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Originally, I thought it was Holmes Beach because I think

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they put it in the press of his home speech,

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but it was actually in Bradenton Beach. Um, so glad

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you brought that up. I was really surprised to see.

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Yeah. No. And basically they said of the hundred and

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so many, um, disoriented hatchlings found only five have been

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in home speech. Um, so, and because I thought about

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Jason when I heard that, I knew that that was

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really close to his, you know, heart and to put

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a lot of, and puts a lot of work into,

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um, staying in touch with Kristen with turtle watch and

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spending, you know, he and Alison go out and monitor

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the beach. And do what they can. Uh, he did

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indicate that they are working towards, um, working with FPL

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to try to get them to put more amber colored

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street lights for the LEDs that are up. It's just

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very costly. So they're kind of working through that and

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mentioned something about. I think they're tried to, maybe FBL

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was doing it. It's trying to get a grants. To

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help with the fun. They're cause difference. They can even

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more amber lights closer to the beach. Um, that's all

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I had. Thank. You. Yes. Um, I went to the

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Anna Maria Commission meeting last week. And they talked about

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side door service. Now they have waste probes well. And

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the service. They were working on an ordinance that said

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cans have to be placed at least 20 feet. Some

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number. On the road or in an enclosed area. Do

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we have anything like that? Yes. We do. And that's

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some of the auditing that they're going to be going

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out. Because if people and leaving hangers, they warn people

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if they believe, if you know, yes, you have to

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bring your cans in. And part of the service that

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they're supposed to break. That's side door service. You know,

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that's just, if you're paying extra for side door service,

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then that would be bad. Yeah. No, yes. Cydoor service,

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the ways pro. So if that's kind of the, I

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think the example that JT was giving is if you

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feel like your cans aren't being brought all the way

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back and should be, then get a hold of compliance

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because they'll go out and do it and make sure

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it stays compliant and work with waste pro to make

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sure they get it correct in their system. Had, uh,

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had a guy or duffey's. She lives on South Harbor

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by the church. And they've been trying for months and

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months and months to get the trash out of their

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front yard. I mean, the new cans, the people in

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the house next would just leave it out there. And

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finally, um, JT went and sure enough, I don't even

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think the people were paying for the side service, which

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they're supposed to if it's a short term rental. Right.

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I thought that's our law, our ordinance. You can't treat.

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Them different than anybody. Else. But most of them do.

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So I thought they had to. Okay. So anyway, I

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think it was taken care of. But he took care

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of it right away. And it's hard to make sometimes

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the guy's, you know, when they get mad, watch out.

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If you ever been to Duffy's, you know. Okay, Jessica.

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The only thing I have from the center is that

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the Greg Le Pensi Bowling tournament is coming up. Saturday,

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September 12th, 2026 at Bolero on Cortez Road. It starts

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at six. You can call up the center to buy

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your lanes or tickets for the event. Team Custom Contest,

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Silent Option, 50 - 50 raffle, all those good things.

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So reach out to the center if you're interested in

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going to the Le Pensi Bowling channel. And it's for

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the island, the Community Center, but I've been going for

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at least 10 years every year. And it's a major

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island citizens. They all get together. You don't have to

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bowl. They have all kinds of prizes you can buy

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tickets and stuff. I've never bowled. I've gotten there and

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said hi to all my friends. So. Yeah, it's really,

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you don't have to, and you can buy lottery tickets

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and everything just like everybody else for all the gift

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baskets. But it's a, it's a center fundraiser. You don't

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have to bowl. Yeah. I usually don't bowl. It's usually

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just like a fun event where you just come out

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everybody from the island and raise money and, you know,

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put your little raffle tickets in and do the auctions

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and that kind of stuff. That at the alley on

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Cortez. Yeah. Yep. Whatever. September. 12th. No. Recently.

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Just. The other day. We have a new sign. Different

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name. It's called something strike or something. Like that. Lucky

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strike. Yeah. Oh, well actually that's better than the other

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name. I never could remember that. It was just earlier

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this week or so. Oh. Maybe it was earlier. Today's

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Tuesday, right? Yeah. It was last week. Well, there you

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go. Well then lucky strike then. Formally. Yeah. The bowling

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alley on Cortez. Yeah, that was not supposed to be

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funny. Applebee's hasn't changed his name right across from Applebee's.

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Is that it? That's it. Dan. Dog Parks doing wonderful.

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Thank you, Herb. And mother nature's helping with natural rainfall.

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Uh, it looks great. And it's fully open now, I

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think, right? The Big Dogs don't seem to be tearing

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it up. Too bad. So. I know give him time.

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It's the, um, wait till season. It's the winter season

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when it's dormant. That's when that tends to get. A

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Herb. I took a look at the 56th Street project

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the other day. You know, you see pictures and you

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get briefings and you don't really understand it to you.

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You actually put dry balls on it. I climb down

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in the hole and watch what they were doing down

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there. Are you covered under our comp? Holy, all I

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can say. They were rerouting a water main around. These

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guys were in the trenches with ratchets and wrenches. And

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screwing this thing together. It's pretty complex. And the pipe

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that's going in case you want to the size of

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the pipe. It's big at the end. What is it

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like a 12 or 24 inch? It's 48 inch. Oh

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48. And that's for stormwater, right. The one you're putting

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is for stormwater. And tide valves and I always had

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my mind valve is about this big. Oh boy. Was

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I wrong. Um. I crawled down in a hole and

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a guy was in the outflow. You actually crawled and

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he was a pretty good sized guy. He actually crawled

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inside the outflow himself. And he's in there install the

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tide valve. And he's his whole body is in there.

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So the outflow is about this big. So if you

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really were wondering what we're paying all the stormwater fees

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for. Just take a look at that. I was really

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impressed. The herb does this all the time, but I

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was shocked at the size and the scale. So thank

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you for what you do. Yeah. And it's been rough

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on that neighborhood, but I'll be since Judy was born

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even. I mean, it's been those small pipes underneath. So

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finally, we're getting something done. And hopefully it'll help our

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chronic problems that we've had over there forever. So, and

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I did notice that first time 20 years, maybe longer.

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Major rain has come and I've driven by the, I

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call the gas station here. The auto repair. The shopping

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center, home street shopping center. And in front of here,

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first time I've ever been able to drive with no

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major flooding at all. This is before this closed down.

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So it's working. And I mean, I was, I mean,

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that's one thing I noticed. It was a major reign

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and I was able to drive like within 20 minutes.

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And it was. So good job. Okay. The only thing

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I have to report is I'm speaking on behalf. I

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guess myself at the Women's Republican Party about amendment three.

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I still got to do a lot of my research.

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I guess Marianne Barnaby is going to be, they want

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to talk about what the cities think about it. I

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really don't have any, um, opinion out of one way

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or the other. Whatever the citizens decides we're going to

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have to deal with. But I want to research on

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it. And not try to sway either way, you know,

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just try to speak of the facts. Um, pace. Pace

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called me yesterday somebody from Tallahassee. And I refer them

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to the mayor and to Chad. Um, it's that program.

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Have you ever heard it? And I forgot Glenn Javelina

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tried years to get the county to do it. And

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it's a program. And they're thinking of the aisle in

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the barrier islands after all these storms. It's a way

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you can fund to make your house more resilient. And

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actually what I understood the county didn't have anything. Just,

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they just said it was okay. And that's what they

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asked the cities to be able to allow these people

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funding to be able to do that if they wanted.

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I told them I think we have like six or

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seven houses that are elevating now. But I told them

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to talk to you to guys and he's going to

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call and see if you guys are, if we're interested

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and then you can bring it before the board because

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the board has to approve it. Yeah. Actually sent me

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an email. 10 minutes before the meeting. So I reached

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out. He sent a pamphlet. And as soon as I

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have a chance to digest it, I'll get with a

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mayor and we'll set something up. Good. Okay. I'd heard

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about it. And then I didn't realize that it had

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already been in the county so good. Um, I stopped

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by here leaving after getting my mail and I, the

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turtle talk was here the other day. And it was

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so cool some mothers brought their kids. And which I

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did know, and I love science, uh, the turtles with

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shells. They have all of these little critters that are

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on their shelves that travel all over. And the critters

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get off and they kind of just do our ecosystem.

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I thought it was really cool. Um, everybody seemed to

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really enjoy. And the two ladies speak and did a

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really good job. And I know you guys have been

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to them. So and I think it's every Monday. They

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failed the chamber every Monday. Yeah. Yeah. And I like

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that they were bringing kids. So. And the last thing

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I did the infamous e - bike tour on the

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island last Sunday didn't fall. But I wanted to show

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my friends, the city, and we all started. We started

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Anne Brandon worked our way down. We went to the

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public beach for lunch and everything. And just got to

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look around in all the back roads and stuff. I

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got a lowrider one, you know, and I went slow

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because I, you know, I'm nervous about them too, but

471
00:30:51,422 --> 00:30:55,251
it was a good experience. And it was fun. Of

472
00:30:55,251 --> 00:30:57,971
course. Yeah. I'm the one that found that kid on

473
00:30:58,232 --> 00:31:01,451
Manity Avenue that had the head injury. Um, speaking of

474
00:31:01,451 --> 00:31:05,811
that, um, when all this stuff is done on 56th

475
00:31:05,832 --> 00:31:10,051
Street where the home speech post office is a marina

476
00:31:10,091 --> 00:31:14,167
drive, well, that's four way stop, go away. They are

477
00:31:14,268 --> 00:31:21,054
two way, it was four way now. Okay, good. We're

478
00:31:21,094 --> 00:31:24,174
directing everyone down Holmes'boulevard and the people that are on

479
00:31:24,214 --> 00:31:27,534
Gulf Drive were not allowing people to come so we've

480
00:31:27,534 --> 00:31:31,725
made it a four - way stop. So it's just

481
00:31:31,725 --> 00:31:34,125
safer. It only broke the lie. I drove through it

482
00:31:34,165 --> 00:31:37,405
the other day and I realized it. Tickets in the

483
00:31:37,405 --> 00:31:40,605
mail. You didn't catch me. You didn't have your camera

484
00:31:40,645 --> 00:31:44,916
there. So, and that's all I have. Um, okay. Mayor,

485
00:31:44,916 --> 00:31:50,849
do you have a report. Okay. Well, I enjoyed my

486
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:54,689
almost three weeks away at the Keys. The water was

487
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:57,969
crystal clear and there was plenty of lobsters. We had

488
00:31:57,969 --> 00:32:01,438
a lot of fun with the family. Recently though, we

489
00:32:01,438 --> 00:32:03,838
did just have a meeting with the county folks. We

490
00:32:03,838 --> 00:32:07,878
do that every year. Charlie Bishop and their staff come

491
00:32:07,979 --> 00:32:12,198
and they go through anything they can do for us.

492
00:32:12,198 --> 00:32:16,838
Anything we can do for them. Um, these last two

493
00:32:16,859 --> 00:32:21,516
years. When was our last election that we got rid

494
00:32:21,556 --> 00:32:30,900
of some. Relationships have been amazing. Tao's awesome. Charlie's been

495
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:34,260
really great. The staff is there. There's just been really

496
00:32:34,441 --> 00:32:37,940
great with home speech. Um, we had several topics we

497
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:42,340
talked about. First was beach patrol. Uh, I told them,

498
00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:45,220
remember we still had an extra 25, 000 hopes for

499
00:32:45,241 --> 00:32:51,495
this year. Increasing our beach patrol money. Um, they, they

500
00:32:51,596 --> 00:32:57,285
were hoping that. Being that TDC can now fund lifeguards

501
00:32:57,546 --> 00:32:59,925
that might be able to get some of the lifeguard

502
00:32:59,946 --> 00:33:03,285
funding available for beach patrol, but that hasn't happened yet.

503
00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:07,364
They have not brought that up in front of TDC

504
00:33:07,465 --> 00:33:11,484
to do that funding. So they're still short money. So

505
00:33:11,484 --> 00:33:14,884
they cannot promise anything. They're still going to see what

506
00:33:14,924 --> 00:33:18,324
they can do. But it doesn't look promising for this

507
00:33:18,345 --> 00:33:22,564
year, nor does it look promising for any increase next

508
00:33:22,585 --> 00:33:31,284
year because they still want to implement consideration for implementing,

509
00:33:31,284 --> 00:33:37,271
um, paid beach parking. Which and also the boat ramps.

510
00:33:37,271 --> 00:33:41,663
And they want to use that funding source. For Beach

511
00:33:41,663 --> 00:33:43,503
Patrol. And I said, well, we can't wait. They don't

512
00:33:43,764 --> 00:33:45,943
want, they don't want to do, they didn't want to

513
00:33:45,943 --> 00:33:49,023
talk about it this year because election season and they

514
00:33:49,023 --> 00:33:54,063
know that's going to cause some anxiety. Um, as soon

515
00:33:54,063 --> 00:33:57,063
as you talk about paid Park, you get beaches. So.

516
00:33:58,061 --> 00:33:59,880
We don't know what we're going to do about getting

517
00:33:59,901 --> 00:34:02,440
any additional funding. I told them every year you don't

518
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,120
increase it. You're actually defunding us because salaries continue to

519
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,280
go up. Costs continue to go up gas continues to

520
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040
go up. They're aware of that. But right now everybody

521
00:34:12,061 --> 00:34:15,480
knows the county's a little tight on funding too. And

522
00:34:15,821 --> 00:34:23,120
especially with this, um, potential increase of homestead exemption. If

523
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520
it goes to referendum, they're going to be looking everywhere

524
00:34:26,861 --> 00:34:29,400
that we're going to be looking for funding to health

525
00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:34,485
offset that. Um, so beach patrol is still an unknown.

526
00:34:35,532 --> 00:34:39,831
Kingfish boat ramp, commercial rentals. We talked about the concerns

527
00:34:39,871 --> 00:34:42,071
we have. I don't know if you all have noticed,

528
00:34:42,071 --> 00:34:45,991
but the lot more vehicles, not vehicle trailer, but a

529
00:34:45,991 --> 00:34:50,185
lot of just vehicles. Taking up the parking at kingfish.

530
00:34:50,185 --> 00:34:55,465
And what that is, we've always had local captains fishermen

531
00:34:56,366 --> 00:35:00,380
picking up people there. But now we've got boat rental

532
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:03,500
companies moving in. And they're the pontoon boats that can

533
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:07,900
carry, you know, one, two families. So they've added to

534
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:11,980
the parking, even though it's a commercial use. It's not

535
00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:16,526
allowed. We have to catch them. And we have to

536
00:35:16,526 --> 00:35:20,886
be there watching them, you know, citing them. So right

537
00:35:20,886 --> 00:35:24,367
now. One time I was leaving. I don't know how

538
00:35:24,407 --> 00:35:26,507
many cars there was parked on the other sea. And

539
00:35:26,507 --> 00:35:29,167
they were just pulled in like a diagonal, which is

540
00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:31,647
against the law. If you're going to park there, it

541
00:35:31,647 --> 00:35:34,767
has to be parallel with the blow traffic. So they

542
00:35:34,807 --> 00:35:37,407
all got tickets. Chief said he went out and took

543
00:35:37,407 --> 00:35:45,203
it them all. So now they're parking. It's parallel. But

544
00:35:45,804 --> 00:35:48,350
it's a state road. They're really not supposed to be

545
00:35:48,771 --> 00:35:53,747
there anyway. So we were watching, your chief was through,

546
00:35:53,747 --> 00:35:58,787
he had some videos where people with young kids were

547
00:35:58,888 --> 00:36:01,587
parking there to come to a rental boat. And they

548
00:36:01,587 --> 00:36:06,533
were racing across Manatee Avenue. Between cars, and we're going,

549
00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:09,733
if we continue to look the other way and someone

550
00:36:09,754 --> 00:36:13,733
gets hit because we're not enforcing state laws, if you're

551
00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:17,493
not allowed to park on right away zone state roads,

552
00:36:17,493 --> 00:36:20,353
are we going to be liable? Not just liable, but

553
00:36:20,353 --> 00:36:25,758
it's not saved. So we've been, we talked with Randy.

554
00:36:25,758 --> 00:36:28,318
We talked with the county folks about it. And they

555
00:36:28,318 --> 00:36:31,198
said, yeah, we really, the state really should put the

556
00:36:31,379 --> 00:36:35,002
signs up. They were putting them up during COVID and

557
00:36:35,042 --> 00:36:37,866
we said, don't do it. You know, that's just bad

558
00:36:37,906 --> 00:36:40,658
timing. People need to get out in their boats. You

559
00:36:40,658 --> 00:36:45,058
know, we have no objection if boats and your cars,

560
00:36:45,058 --> 00:36:47,378
you know, trucks and trailers are parked there because there

561
00:36:47,418 --> 00:36:50,267
was limited parking. At the boat ramp at that time.

562
00:36:51,378 --> 00:36:56,717
But now it looks because it's turned into be a

563
00:36:56,738 --> 00:37:00,038
more commercialized use. And the fact that now we're getting

564
00:37:00,299 --> 00:37:04,038
vehicles, not just trucks and trailers, we might have to

565
00:37:04,059 --> 00:37:06,278
go ahead and reach out to the state. So I

566
00:37:06,278 --> 00:37:08,358
think the county was going to do that for us.

567
00:37:08,379 --> 00:37:11,058
I already did it. You did? I sent them videos

568
00:37:11,399 --> 00:37:17,458
showing the people leapfrogging between cars with kids and coolers.

569
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:19,138
And they were not happy. And they said that they

570
00:37:19,138 --> 00:37:21,138
would get back with me. But they're going to take

571
00:37:21,319 --> 00:37:24,258
action. I suspect that they'll put up the signs of

572
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,110
no parking on the right way over there. Can I

573
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:31,070
ask a question? Because I was, I was around when,

574
00:37:31,171 --> 00:37:35,790
when, um, the city didn't want, I mean, we all

575
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:39,390
know what we got to concern that people were parking

576
00:37:39,411 --> 00:37:44,038
across the street. And it was just around after COVID.

577
00:37:44,038 --> 00:37:46,318
So Sherry had this told the state and all of

578
00:37:46,318 --> 00:37:47,718
a sudden they put the signs up. We didn't even

579
00:37:47,758 --> 00:37:49,318
know they were going to do that. And they said,

580
00:37:49,318 --> 00:37:52,289
no parking. Then our city here said, no, we don't

581
00:37:52,329 --> 00:37:55,329
want to do that because the charters, they use them

582
00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:57,569
for their guests to come and then they would walk

583
00:37:57,990 --> 00:38:02,097
across the street. So the county called the state back

584
00:38:02,278 --> 00:38:05,659
and they took them away. So Scott Moore called me

585
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,519
when this was in the paper, I think, with the

586
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:11,099
pontoons. We all saw it in the paper. He goes,

587
00:38:11,099 --> 00:38:12,939
and he goes, I'm telling people, they just better be

588
00:38:12,939 --> 00:38:15,899
careful what they're asking for because that includes charters too.

589
00:38:16,935 --> 00:38:19,554
And like Scott Morn, people like that make a business

590
00:38:19,735 --> 00:38:23,474
picking up people and leaving. And yeah, I don't like

591
00:38:23,575 --> 00:38:27,154
the tourists going up and running a pontoon and having

592
00:38:27,335 --> 00:38:29,234
12 people on it. But it's still the same thing.

593
00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:31,554
It's a commercial business. And I think there was enough

594
00:38:31,895 --> 00:38:36,914
parking when it was just a charter. It's once upon.

595
00:38:36,914 --> 00:38:39,954
Then you noticed. And the jet ski guy. Well, then

596
00:38:39,954 --> 00:38:43,834
you noticed now we don't have enough vehicle parking. So

597
00:38:45,335 --> 00:38:47,954
they're ruin it for everybody. And so I told Charlie,

598
00:38:47,954 --> 00:38:51,314
I said, when you're laying in bed in the middle

599
00:38:51,354 --> 00:38:53,634
of the night with your eyes wide open like I

600
00:38:53,634 --> 00:38:57,234
do. And it's like, can you see if how we

601
00:38:57,495 --> 00:39:02,754
can solve this issue with charter fishermen? Because it's not

602
00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:06,434
right that they've been pushed out of living here on

603
00:39:06,434 --> 00:39:09,874
the island because the resort, everybody saw the Christmas tree

604
00:39:09,975 --> 00:39:13,314
maps of where resort housing is everywhere, even in northwest

605
00:39:13,335 --> 00:39:18,140
Brington. They're pushed out. That's their access to the water.

606
00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:24,037
And now we're looking at Sarasito's looking at, they have

607
00:39:24,037 --> 00:39:29,317
to bid for a medallion like a franchise. So it's,

608
00:39:29,357 --> 00:39:31,477
it's tough. We've got to take care of the people

609
00:39:31,477 --> 00:39:35,717
that are trying to live, you know, make a living.

610
00:39:35,717 --> 00:39:38,197
Their kids go to school here. And at the same

611
00:39:38,197 --> 00:39:41,477
time address what's happening with all the jet ski rentals

612
00:39:41,658 --> 00:39:43,477
and boat rentals that are trying to come in and

613
00:39:43,477 --> 00:39:46,677
take up the parking. So there have to be more

614
00:39:46,698 --> 00:39:49,317
discussion. And also at the county and on how we're

615
00:39:49,338 --> 00:39:51,397
going to address this. And I agree that how I

616
00:39:51,498 --> 00:39:56,117
want to really protect the Scott Moore, he wouldn't leave

617
00:39:56,458 --> 00:39:58,437
it alone. He says watch out because you guys are

618
00:39:58,437 --> 00:39:59,717
going to do this and this is going to affect

619
00:39:59,757 --> 00:40:02,357
us that actually live out here. But we pick our

620
00:40:02,538 --> 00:40:05,557
custards and ears up. So if we're, and how do

621
00:40:05,557 --> 00:40:08,677
you discriminate, unfortunately like the rental world, you're not allowed

622
00:40:08,717 --> 00:40:10,997
to limit them anymore, but just so we all know

623
00:40:11,178 --> 00:40:16,037
this may affect the islanders. Well, for our commercial business.

624
00:40:16,426 --> 00:40:20,805
Code, it could be written different than the counties and

625
00:40:20,805 --> 00:40:24,725
that's a county park. So we're having the county come

626
00:40:24,765 --> 00:40:28,965
up with, they know we want to support our locals.

627
00:40:28,965 --> 00:40:32,065
And our local charter fishermen have always been there. And

628
00:40:32,065 --> 00:40:35,845
they haven't been an issue. So I've reached out to

629
00:40:35,885 --> 00:40:37,525
them to try to see what they can do to

630
00:40:37,546 --> 00:40:44,548
solve the issue. Terry. I just wonder. Chief. Are the

631
00:40:44,548 --> 00:40:51,340
rules the same for the ramp. Sau. As their enforcing

632
00:40:52,081 --> 00:40:59,606
act. The rules pertaining to. Parking. Yeah. They have, uh,

633
00:40:59,647 --> 00:41:02,906
they have dedicated parking at Palmi sola for the boat

634
00:41:03,327 --> 00:41:07,226
and trailer. And they allow people to park all over

635
00:41:07,487 --> 00:41:12,972
there right away there. What are they allowing. The. Load

636
00:41:12,972 --> 00:41:15,627
their. Passengers there? Oh, they're doing that. Yeah. They're doing

637
00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:18,587
that. And so the jet skis, there was like 50

638
00:41:18,608 --> 00:41:22,491
jet skis out there, uh, over the weekend. And they've

639
00:41:22,531 --> 00:41:26,411
made their own ramps just by backing it down. They're

640
00:41:26,432 --> 00:41:30,571
not using the rams. They're just making the just going

641
00:41:30,611 --> 00:41:32,971
in there backing it up. And they're just, there's no

642
00:41:33,392 --> 00:41:36,171
enforcement at all. In fact, Tal said the county may

643
00:41:36,211 --> 00:41:38,251
need to go ahead and just sever the relationship with

644
00:41:38,752 --> 00:41:41,771
Bradenton being the one to enforce that because there is

645
00:41:41,811 --> 00:41:45,291
no enforcement. That's their jurisdiction, Brayton, not the county. That'll

646
00:41:45,632 --> 00:41:48,411
the county said they've, they have a. Only own the

647
00:41:48,411 --> 00:41:51,590
bathroom. They have an agreement with City of Bradenton to

648
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:54,365
a boat ramp. Just for the boat ramp and the

649
00:41:54,365 --> 00:41:56,974
bathrooms of the state. That's the only thing the counties

650
00:41:56,995 --> 00:41:59,054
have. I wonder if part of the problem is they're

651
00:41:59,094 --> 00:42:02,470
not mowing and maintaining that. I realize. It's a construction

652
00:42:02,731 --> 00:42:08,326
site. It looks horrible. It was from Kingfish. They haven't

653
00:42:08,347 --> 00:42:12,217
mowed that. Four months. I think that that's because they're

654
00:42:12,318 --> 00:42:16,937
using it for staging. I know there's using all of

655
00:42:16,977 --> 00:42:20,617
it. It's an appearance thing. It'll be done next week.

656
00:42:20,617 --> 00:42:23,329
Hopefully that'll all be cleaned up after the project. But

657
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:27,969
it may also be minimizing me. Exactly. Because it's more

658
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:32,088
marshinette. That's not a bad thing. Okay. Dan and then

659
00:42:32,189 --> 00:42:34,248
we'll go and get onto the agenda. Chief, do these

660
00:42:34,589 --> 00:42:37,648
folks in these folks that use the ponto boats? Do

661
00:42:37,648 --> 00:42:41,928
they have a license and insurance to do this? We

662
00:42:41,968 --> 00:42:44,217
can regulate that. They're not supposed to be there. So

663
00:42:44,217 --> 00:42:46,977
we just have to, they asked us anytime we see

664
00:42:47,017 --> 00:42:49,057
them to make them leave. We're only allowed to be

665
00:42:49,057 --> 00:42:51,697
there for 15 minutes. No, they're only allowed to be

666
00:42:51,737 --> 00:42:53,857
attached to the doc for 15 minutes and we will

667
00:42:53,897 --> 00:42:57,137
give them a citation if we see them staging and

668
00:42:57,137 --> 00:43:00,259
waiting on their people to get there. Oh, good. I

669
00:43:00,259 --> 00:43:02,979
just don't want Kingfish to look like the causeway. Well,

670
00:43:03,019 --> 00:43:06,059
exactly. Well, that's what's happening. It's the only difference is

671
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,901
they're not sitting up tents. You know, they're just, they're

672
00:43:09,901 --> 00:43:12,781
going and they're staging on the, uh, east side of

673
00:43:12,781 --> 00:43:15,821
the bridge. And then they sit there and they've got

674
00:43:15,842 --> 00:43:19,581
their trucks with the pontoons or their jet skis sitting

675
00:43:19,621 --> 00:43:22,681
there off to the side. And then when, you know,

676
00:43:22,722 --> 00:43:24,621
five minutes before their people are supposed to meet them

677
00:43:24,661 --> 00:43:26,681
there, they go and they drop the boat in the

678
00:43:26,681 --> 00:43:30,358
jet skis and people meet them there. And clever workarounds,

679
00:43:30,358 --> 00:43:32,598
aren't they? I've never seen a jet ski leave our

680
00:43:32,619 --> 00:43:35,078
kingfish. I always see them on the causeway. Oh no,

681
00:43:35,078 --> 00:43:38,918
we've got, uh, four trucks. Are they allowed to? Eight,

682
00:43:38,918 --> 00:43:41,718
uh, eight on each one, eight jet skis. We had

683
00:43:41,718 --> 00:43:44,758
that issue at 63rd Street as well. And then some

684
00:43:44,758 --> 00:43:48,420
discussion and I know a new signage went up. I've

685
00:43:48,441 --> 00:43:52,560
heard you've heard more. Complaints about just that. Some of

686
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:58,949
the charter. And Untune captains were staging there. It's a

687
00:43:58,949 --> 00:44:01,909
very small dock. And we only allow 15 minutes as

688
00:44:01,909 --> 00:44:05,189
well there. And I think we have assigned no commercial

689
00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:07,589
use because you're not allowed to have commercial use on

690
00:44:07,690 --> 00:44:11,185
that deeded land. Using it. And there was a jet

691
00:44:11,185 --> 00:44:14,785
ski crash in Anna Maria this past weekend with a

692
00:44:14,825 --> 00:44:24,283
death. So for death. Like Beanpoint area, right? Yeah.

693
00:44:25,165 --> 00:44:30,077
Dangerous part. Yeah. Single vessel crash.

694
00:44:37,329 --> 00:44:39,308
That's good enough. So they were, were they renting the

695
00:44:39,409 --> 00:44:48,847
jet ski. Okay. The next topic was trolley shelter

696
00:44:48,868 --> 00:44:52,047
funding. They know that we've been sort of given the

697
00:44:52,087 --> 00:44:56,027
runaround. And it's because people leave who's at county. And

698
00:44:56,027 --> 00:44:57,787
then we got to go to the next person. And

699
00:44:57,787 --> 00:44:59,807
now that one we just were told is no longer

700
00:45:00,228 --> 00:45:03,438
there. So. Now Chad left. But then there was somebody

701
00:45:03,438 --> 00:45:07,838
else after Chad. So Charlie said, just send us the

702
00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:12,507
invoice. So. We're working on that. He said, yes, the

703
00:45:12,608 --> 00:45:16,027
amount that they normally fund for a trolley shelter should

704
00:45:16,048 --> 00:45:19,547
come to the city. And the addition from having the

705
00:45:19,728 --> 00:45:22,907
ones that look, you know, beachy and islander. And they're

706
00:45:22,907 --> 00:45:26,507
not just the metal ones. Then we can go for

707
00:45:26,528 --> 00:45:30,587
TDC funding for the difference. A thousand. No. We did

708
00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:35,709
bigger ones. Um, the, the public's shelter is at least

709
00:45:35,709 --> 00:45:37,789
two or three times bigger so that one would be

710
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:42,880
a bigger dollar. But then not necessarily it was bid,

711
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,679
it was expected to be 25, 000 dollars. And that's

712
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:49,039
why that was in our budget. So this one's bigger.

713
00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:51,199
It wasn't, it's not going to go from 65 to

714
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:54,319
more. It's supposed to go out to rebuild and we're

715
00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:56,319
hoping to get lower than 65. No, I'm not talking

716
00:45:56,359 --> 00:45:59,199
about that. That's something different. Different, different trolley stop? No,

717
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:03,919
what I'm talking about is the difference. Say if the

718
00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:07,919
county pays the 6, 000 dollars per shelter. And our

719
00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:11,759
shelters cost 15, 000. The difference of that cost we

720
00:46:11,759 --> 00:46:15,279
can go to TDC and try to recoup that kind

721
00:46:15,279 --> 00:46:18,639
of money from them. It's what is what they're. Which

722
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:22,479
we've been advocating for years. We totally can justify because

723
00:46:22,479 --> 00:46:27,199
we only have 2, 500 residents here. And we have

724
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:30,799
50 or 60, 000. You can do it by the

725
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:34,159
trolley numbers. How many they ride. So that's totally tourism.

726
00:46:35,365 --> 00:46:40,736
Okay. The last was paid parking. Um, I have been

727
00:46:40,757 --> 00:46:45,696
in conversations with Mark Short. We've seen that they are

728
00:46:45,717 --> 00:46:48,416
looking at what they have to do. They, they invested

729
00:46:48,437 --> 00:46:52,256
in a parking plan. I think beginning of the year.

730
00:46:52,256 --> 00:46:55,936
So it was just unveiled. Everybody knows that we've done

731
00:46:55,976 --> 00:46:59,989
our parking map. And we've identified what we would have

732
00:47:00,410 --> 00:47:02,949
if we went forward with paid parking. And we've just

733
00:47:02,949 --> 00:47:05,749
been sort of waiting until we were pushed into paid

734
00:47:05,770 --> 00:47:09,029
parking because the county does it. So they've been doing

735
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:13,155
the same thing. They want to wait, be ready. Um,

736
00:47:14,476 --> 00:47:15,815
because we all have to do it at the same

737
00:47:15,815 --> 00:47:20,870
time. So we just had another meeting with Mark. And

738
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:23,290
this one was on exactly what they're looking at for

739
00:47:23,330 --> 00:47:26,090
their paid parking. It's very similar to what we would

740
00:47:26,191 --> 00:47:29,690
probably suggest to the board if we had to be

741
00:47:30,111 --> 00:47:35,770
moved into the paid parking. Um, which. And so we

742
00:47:35,951 --> 00:47:43,741
both used the same chief names. Passport tickets. They're the

743
00:47:43,741 --> 00:47:47,421
same vendor that is working with Anna Maria. So, so

744
00:47:47,461 --> 00:47:52,661
what I, what I told Mark was, we're going to

745
00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:55,341
probably be very similar. Manatee County might be different with

746
00:47:55,442 --> 00:47:57,581
theirs. I don't know what vendor they would use if

747
00:47:57,581 --> 00:48:05,363
they would do passport. But. Manatee County would maybe approach

748
00:48:05,704 --> 00:48:09,043
it differently because it's their manatee county parks. They would

749
00:48:09,064 --> 00:48:12,643
probably look at minute county residents either free or very.

750
00:48:13,616 --> 00:48:16,476
A lot less money than out of towners. We would

751
00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:20,636
be looking at protecting home speech, property owners. Ana Maria

752
00:48:20,636 --> 00:48:23,516
would be looking at protecting theirs. So although we might

753
00:48:23,516 --> 00:48:27,276
have little difference with our paid parking, we're hoping they

754
00:48:27,297 --> 00:48:30,556
would be very similar as far as use for the

755
00:48:30,577 --> 00:48:32,636
people that are using it. So we're just doing exactly

756
00:48:32,737 --> 00:48:36,076
what Mark doing. We're doing the background work in case

757
00:48:36,076 --> 00:48:38,636
it looks like it's going to happen. Or in case

758
00:48:38,977 --> 00:48:41,356
these two cities decide, let's do it. Let's not wait

759
00:48:41,396 --> 00:48:45,996
for the county. The staff has been prepared to act

760
00:48:46,036 --> 00:48:48,956
if we need to. What about Brayton Beach? I mean,

761
00:48:48,956 --> 00:48:51,116
it would be nice if everybody was caught. There was

762
00:48:51,156 --> 00:48:55,746
continuity. Well, that's count. I'm calling Braden County because Brandon

763
00:48:55,786 --> 00:48:59,826
Beach has zero right away parking pretty much. And all

764
00:48:59,826 --> 00:49:04,626
of their beach parking is county. So that's where I

765
00:49:04,626 --> 00:49:07,106
say county. That's what I mean. But yes, Braden Abbeach

766
00:49:07,106 --> 00:49:08,786
would be a part of it as well. Do we

767
00:49:08,786 --> 00:49:11,106
have all the map that you just talked about for

768
00:49:11,106 --> 00:49:15,946
our city? Is that available somewhere? It's online. Yep. And

769
00:49:15,946 --> 00:49:17,466
if you need someone to print it for you, we

770
00:49:17,506 --> 00:49:21,226
can. Thanks. I'd like a copy. It's all the parking

771
00:49:21,266 --> 00:49:25,146
within a quarter mile distance from the beach that's available

772
00:49:25,327 --> 00:49:30,906
for all these residential neighborhoods. And, um, I'm thinking it's

773
00:49:30,906 --> 00:49:34,106
like 800 and something parking. 102. But it also includes

774
00:49:34,207 --> 00:49:41,644
the county beach parking. So I wouldn't recommend going any

775
00:49:41,684 --> 00:49:46,764
farther than that, you know, getting into other people's quality

776
00:49:46,804 --> 00:49:50,284
of life just for a money maker. But, um, you

777
00:49:50,324 --> 00:49:53,364
might have to turn everything else into permit parking. So

778
00:49:53,364 --> 00:49:55,964
it doesn't become parking where people try to avoid the

779
00:49:56,145 --> 00:50:00,737
paid. So it could be messy. So we're going to

780
00:50:00,737 --> 00:50:02,857
get you all the information. So if it does come

781
00:50:02,958 --> 00:50:05,577
forward staff will be able to give you everything for

782
00:50:05,598 --> 00:50:08,137
your consideration. And could you give us a copy of

783
00:50:08,177 --> 00:50:12,217
that? I know we have paid parking for residents, which

784
00:50:12,217 --> 00:50:14,617
I totally refused to pay for. I don't even know

785
00:50:14,657 --> 00:50:17,257
where they are. But can we on a map have

786
00:50:17,297 --> 00:50:19,337
where they are? Because if we're going to do both,

787
00:50:19,337 --> 00:50:21,097
we need to get rid of the one. We don't

788
00:50:21,137 --> 00:50:27,337
have to kill. I know it's 50 dollars. And no,

789
00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:29,577
it was never 50. One time ago. No, never 50.

790
00:50:29,577 --> 00:50:31,017
It was 10. Whatever it is, I'm not paying to

791
00:50:31,017 --> 00:50:32,617
park when I live here for two years. It's permit

792
00:50:32,718 --> 00:50:35,737
parking. And a lot of the permit parking that we

793
00:50:35,838 --> 00:50:39,417
used to have went away when we, uh, went to

794
00:50:39,457 --> 00:50:41,817
all four tires off the road because you couldn't get

795
00:50:41,918 --> 00:50:44,937
off where tires off the road. So. We don't actually

796
00:50:44,937 --> 00:50:51,497
have a map that a lot of people love parking

797
00:50:51,537 --> 00:50:53,657
in those places. So you're going to get pushback from

798
00:50:53,918 --> 00:50:56,217
residents that. And I got to tell you, I don't

799
00:50:56,257 --> 00:50:58,617
want to get into the paid parking discussion cause it's

800
00:50:58,638 --> 00:51:03,737
big. But you cannot get rid of permit parking if

801
00:51:03,737 --> 00:51:06,297
you go to paid parking. Because if you don't have

802
00:51:06,558 --> 00:51:10,937
permit parking, here, people are going to park there so

803
00:51:11,038 --> 00:51:13,217
they don't have to pay 458 an hour here. So

804
00:51:14,158 --> 00:51:17,977
what happens with paid parking, you actually add more permit

805
00:51:18,017 --> 00:51:21,737
parking. So every other street of the city doesn't become

806
00:51:21,777 --> 00:51:25,177
someone trying to avoid paying an hourly rate to park.

807
00:51:25,177 --> 00:51:28,377
So it is messy once you start going paid parkings.

808
00:51:28,377 --> 00:51:30,857
But we'll have all that information for you when you're

809
00:51:30,897 --> 00:51:34,847
ready to talk about it. Next. Okay. Just where would

810
00:51:34,847 --> 00:51:39,167
I find it on the city site? Sorry. I'm just,

811
00:51:39,167 --> 00:51:40,767
what do you want to know or something? The parking

812
00:51:40,788 --> 00:51:43,887
math. No, there's a, what do you want to know

813
00:51:44,148 --> 00:51:46,727
or something on the City website? You go to, I

814
00:51:46,727 --> 00:51:51,511
want to and you go down to find parking. Oh,

815
00:51:51,511 --> 00:51:54,071
I want to find parking. Thank you. It's an interactive

816
00:51:54,092 --> 00:51:57,191
map there. That's a parking map, but I don't know

817
00:51:57,372 --> 00:52:00,551
if there's the permit parking map is probably still there.

818
00:52:02,716 --> 00:52:06,935
Um, and that's it. Okay. Now can we get on

819
00:52:06,935 --> 00:52:12,002
to the agenda. Yes. Um. Paid parking is going to

820
00:52:12,143 --> 00:52:14,842
be a heated issue in the next couple of years,

821
00:52:14,842 --> 00:52:18,545
I think. But I'm not sure the county has the

822
00:52:18,545 --> 00:52:21,905
authority to issue free parking to man to your residents

823
00:52:21,926 --> 00:52:26,245
at the county beaches. Because those 1400 parking spaces are

824
00:52:26,266 --> 00:52:30,153
used for beetree nourishment. And I think it is for

825
00:52:30,174 --> 00:52:32,873
B tree nursing my understanding is everybody has to pay

826
00:52:32,974 --> 00:52:35,993
the same. Exactly. That's correct. And we will of course

827
00:52:36,494 --> 00:52:40,073
research and assure that we're clear on that guidance to

828
00:52:40,073 --> 00:52:42,313
the extent clarity can be found at all. Right. Um,

829
00:52:42,494 --> 00:52:44,713
we'll make sure that once we have a substantive discussion

830
00:52:44,734 --> 00:52:47,193
on the parking thing that we have that context. Yeah,

831
00:52:47,193 --> 00:52:49,033
I just didn't want to throw another wrinkle in it.

832
00:52:49,774 --> 00:52:54,678
Randy, explain that again. No, just explain again because I'm

833
00:52:54,718 --> 00:52:59,443
not into all this like, seems like you are. I'm

834
00:52:59,483 --> 00:53:01,283
being asked to explain a question. But what I would

835
00:53:01,283 --> 00:53:05,203
say is that there's, depending on where you're talking about,

836
00:53:05,203 --> 00:53:09,123
what divisions of government you're talking about. Attendant to Beatri

837
00:53:09,123 --> 00:53:12,963
Nourishment historically, the guidance from the federal government and as

838
00:53:13,003 --> 00:53:16,803
administered by the state that where Beach Renourishment dollars and

839
00:53:16,984 --> 00:53:19,683
resources are utilized that a certain amount of parking has

840
00:53:19,723 --> 00:53:22,643
to be available to the general public at no charge.

841
00:53:22,643 --> 00:53:25,603
Um, there's been, not sorry. And that's why I said

842
00:53:25,603 --> 00:53:27,843
like, and that was in another county. That was in

843
00:53:27,843 --> 00:53:29,363
another county. And why I was trying to be vague

844
00:53:29,384 --> 00:53:32,083
on purpose, um, because I don't know the exact parameters

845
00:53:32,123 --> 00:53:34,323
here, but there has to be some allotment for public

846
00:53:34,424 --> 00:53:38,563
parking. Um, and so there are certain parameters around that.

847
00:53:38,563 --> 00:53:41,203
It is constantly evolving landscape and guidance from the Army

848
00:53:41,243 --> 00:53:43,763
Corps of Engineers, federals and the state. And we would

849
00:53:43,763 --> 00:53:46,723
want to make sure that in addition to whatever agreements

850
00:53:46,744 --> 00:53:48,563
and commitments we have as between the City of Homes

851
00:53:48,563 --> 00:53:50,963
Beach and the county, we're also aware of any regulatory

852
00:53:51,064 --> 00:53:55,663
compliance. That is attendant to parking without making any, for

853
00:53:55,663 --> 00:53:58,563
my friends in the press commitments or, or affirmative statements

854
00:53:58,563 --> 00:54:00,563
on what the policy absolutely is in this moment where

855
00:54:00,603 --> 00:54:03,283
we have not been researching that actively. What the policy

856
00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:10,323
is. Whether you're from Ohio or Holmes Beach, that parking

857
00:54:10,344 --> 00:54:13,043
place is available for you for the same amount of

858
00:54:13,043 --> 00:54:17,046
money or free. So, and there's a certain amount of

859
00:54:17,307 --> 00:54:22,208
parking per block. Or length of beach. That you have

860
00:54:22,248 --> 00:54:28,128
to provide for Beach Renourishment Dollars. And so public beach

861
00:54:28,469 --> 00:54:33,048
on the beach renourishment, there's like 325 spots shows up

862
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:37,008
that that is available to all at the same rate

863
00:54:37,029 --> 00:54:43,121
or no right. Home speech. On our secondary parking. That's

864
00:54:43,121 --> 00:54:47,402
primary parking. Secondary parking because I know the restrooms. There's

865
00:54:47,402 --> 00:54:51,482
no lifeguards. It's just secondary beach parking. There's a few

866
00:54:51,522 --> 00:54:55,336
spots all up and down our beach. That total 65.

867
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:58,889
That's all we have to, and then you get credits

868
00:54:59,150 --> 00:55:05,289
for some bike racks and trolley stops. But those 65

869
00:55:05,329 --> 00:55:09,049
spots throughout Home Speech would be city getting funded if

870
00:55:09,089 --> 00:55:11,689
it became paid parking or not. You can keep it

871
00:55:11,689 --> 00:55:18,803
free for all. The 325 is right now. What. That

872
00:55:18,803 --> 00:55:25,754
was the last beach renourishment. Paperwork that we received. Correct

873
00:55:25,754 --> 00:55:27,754
me if I'm wrong, but. And I believe we have

874
00:55:28,015 --> 00:55:33,184
more than that. We have about 800. Yeah. Designated. Two.

875
00:55:33,184 --> 00:55:37,024
Yeah. 800. And those are all those are all labeled,

876
00:55:37,024 --> 00:55:42,611
right Chief. The county has. Yeah. We've improved them all

877
00:55:42,872 --> 00:55:45,251
and they're mapped. Yeah. They're my, okay. And they're on

878
00:55:45,251 --> 00:55:47,298
that map that you have on the website. Okay. I

879
00:55:47,298 --> 00:55:50,188
guess I got to look it. Up. Okay. We're done

880
00:55:50,188 --> 00:55:55,804
with the mayor's report. All right. Now we are on

881
00:55:56,945 --> 00:55:59,724
comments by the public. You'll have a chance now and

882
00:55:59,724 --> 00:56:01,004
you'll have a chance at the end of the meeting

883
00:56:01,105 --> 00:56:02,684
if you'd like to come up. Please state your name.

884
00:56:04,475 --> 00:56:06,454
And I guess you have to write it on a

885
00:56:06,454 --> 00:56:10,134
paper. And you got five minutes for the chair's prerogative.

886
00:56:28,304 --> 00:56:33,029
She's just soft spoken. Yeah. Proving your successful, my husband

887
00:56:33,050 --> 00:56:39,589
says that. I'm proving your successful management of storm mitigation

888
00:56:39,850 --> 00:56:44,549
and debris removal. Congratulations. I was at the recent TDC

889
00:56:44,570 --> 00:56:52,608
meeting and Herb and Ben Dan and Mark. Who found,

890
00:56:52,608 --> 00:56:57,968
identified the part of the, their bylaws or their charter

891
00:56:58,469 --> 00:57:02,768
that says the TDC can indeed use funding to pay

892
00:57:02,768 --> 00:57:07,088
for infrastructure. So herb and Dan did a great job

893
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:13,568
explaining, uh, the funding at request for funding for the

894
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:17,504
title valves. It was well done. I would like to

895
00:57:17,685 --> 00:57:21,184
add a couple things to that. Yes, it's an inconvenience

896
00:57:21,285 --> 00:57:23,824
to have water on the road, but I think we

897
00:57:24,005 --> 00:57:28,864
all know also that it's a safety issue. Because pedestrians

898
00:57:29,445 --> 00:57:32,624
and bikers have to go out into the street and

899
00:57:32,805 --> 00:57:37,983
compete for space with vehicles. Mayor Brown had a question

900
00:57:38,084 --> 00:57:46,026
about justification of spending TDC funds on residential streets. And

901
00:57:46,047 --> 00:57:50,406
I think Commissioner Whitmore may have been, well, no, you

902
00:57:50,447 --> 00:57:55,033
kind of addressed it today. We're mostly tourists. So every

903
00:57:55,134 --> 00:58:00,073
street has tourists. If you, if we are using some

904
00:58:00,073 --> 00:58:06,553
kind of TD's TDC funds on a residential street, it's

905
00:58:06,553 --> 00:58:14,143
mostly tourists. It's going to benefit tourists. And also there

906
00:58:14,143 --> 00:58:19,104
was questions about opening up a can of worms. They've

907
00:58:19,144 --> 00:58:24,064
never done this before. They've never spent funding on infrastructure.

908
00:58:25,417 --> 00:58:29,316
Well, so what? If they open a can of worms.

909
00:58:29,316 --> 00:58:33,076
Our city has been, have been spending money for years

910
00:58:33,817 --> 00:58:41,476
on infrastructure that protects the tourism. So we have, we've,

911
00:58:41,516 --> 00:58:45,956
we've protected more and more tourists and fewer and fewer

912
00:58:46,377 --> 00:58:53,316
residents. So thanks to the Commissioner Commissioner Dan and Herb

913
00:58:54,297 --> 00:58:57,956
and Mark for finding out that those funds could be

914
00:58:58,057 --> 00:59:02,647
used for that. And now for lifeguards. So great. Let's

915
00:59:02,668 --> 00:59:06,007
open that can of worms. We've given them enough worms

916
00:59:06,108 --> 00:59:09,985
anyway. Thank you. That was good. Thank you, Nancy. Anybody

917
00:59:09,985 --> 00:59:11,905
else in the public like to make a public comment

918
00:59:12,166 --> 00:59:15,105
now or would you rather wait. Okay. We closed public

919
00:59:15,206 --> 00:59:19,345
comment. Um, Mayor Brown was probably flipping out because river

920
00:59:19,385 --> 00:59:22,785
view boulevard. And I'm sure you all hear complaints. Have

921
00:59:22,806 --> 00:59:26,785
her really have heard about all of its short -

922
00:59:26,785 --> 00:59:29,905
term rentals now. Those big mansions. And now they're all

923
00:59:29,945 --> 00:59:35,025
raising heck. But, uh, 2, 500 block about augmentation. If

924
00:59:35,065 --> 00:59:37,425
you go down and you'll see the road dips a

925
00:59:37,425 --> 00:59:41,825
little, all those homes, if the high tide are flooded,

926
00:59:41,825 --> 00:59:43,105
mayor post and lived on one of them. He hasn't

927
00:59:43,105 --> 00:59:45,977
been back there since the hurricane. They've all gotten destroyed

928
00:59:46,158 --> 00:59:50,246
because the water's gone over the seawalls now. And you

929
00:59:50,246 --> 00:59:52,006
know, that's probably what he's talking about. The can of

930
00:59:52,006 --> 00:59:54,446
worms because that could help them. But they're going to

931
00:59:54,507 --> 00:59:57,388
have to elevate their seawalls or something. That's how bad

932
00:59:57,428 --> 01:00:03,242
it's getting. May I give a little clarity. If you.

933
01:00:03,369 --> 01:00:08,173
Don't, yeah. Okay. Uh, I do it on your report.

934
01:00:08,173 --> 01:00:11,933
No, just now TDC. It did not pass by the

935
01:00:11,933 --> 01:00:14,893
way we deferred it to the next meeting, which is

936
01:00:14,914 --> 01:00:17,373
in October. And the reason it was deferred is because

937
01:00:17,714 --> 01:00:22,434
there's one little thing that Elliot missed. It says an

938
01:00:22,434 --> 01:00:26,514
independent professional analysis performed at the expense of the county

939
01:00:26,535 --> 01:00:30,834
tourism development council demonstrates the positive impact of the infrastructure

940
01:00:31,015 --> 01:00:36,381
project on tourists related businesses in the county. Or blah,

941
01:00:36,381 --> 01:00:40,461
blah, blah, blah, blah. So basically it's an independent analysis.

942
01:00:40,461 --> 01:00:42,921
It's not really a study. It's just an analysis. But

943
01:00:42,921 --> 01:00:45,101
what this means is in Herb and I have talked

944
01:00:45,101 --> 01:00:47,181
about this. If you take a picture of the trolley

945
01:00:47,221 --> 01:00:49,741
stop down here in front of the public works building

946
01:00:50,242 --> 01:00:54,554
when high tide, the trolley stop is flooded. The sidewalk

947
01:00:54,554 --> 01:00:57,363
is flooded and the bike path is flooded. If you

948
01:00:57,363 --> 01:01:00,403
take a picture with a tide valve in there at

949
01:01:00,504 --> 01:01:05,869
high tide, they're not flooded. There's your analysis. So it

950
01:01:05,869 --> 01:01:08,349
has to be something probably that simple. I'm not sure

951
01:01:08,770 --> 01:01:11,149
what TDC is going to do between now and our

952
01:01:11,189 --> 01:01:15,149
next meeting in October. But we requested 344, 500 for

953
01:01:15,149 --> 01:01:20,909
this. The total, uh, project over five years is 689,

954
01:01:21,170 --> 01:01:26,466
000. Install 77 tide valves, something like that. Well, it

955
01:01:26,466 --> 01:01:29,266
used to be good in math. And that's all great.

956
01:01:29,266 --> 01:01:33,106
I'm glad again, um, I didn't think we'd be taught,

957
01:01:33,106 --> 01:01:35,906
I wasn't planning on talking about this. But as a

958
01:01:35,946 --> 01:01:37,346
board member, I didn't know we were going to go

959
01:01:37,527 --> 01:01:40,226
before them to request it. Or I would have done

960
01:01:40,226 --> 01:01:43,095
my homework or tried to be there. To support it.

961
01:01:43,095 --> 01:01:47,975
Again, TDC monies can also be used for other things.

962
01:01:47,975 --> 01:01:50,615
You know, now we're doing, we're back, she got money.

963
01:01:50,615 --> 01:01:53,015
You guys raised a stormwater fee. So we are doing

964
01:01:53,036 --> 01:01:56,535
more tidal valves. And now where are we historically flooded

965
01:01:56,575 --> 01:02:00,695
for 20 something years? It's kind of resolved in itself.

966
01:02:00,695 --> 01:02:02,135
So we have to look at other things. But I

967
01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,933
think something like that. We as a board probably should

968
01:02:05,034 --> 01:02:08,293
stand united when we go to the TDC and said

969
01:02:08,554 --> 01:02:12,053
that our commission's requesting this. And maybe then our attorney

970
01:02:12,074 --> 01:02:14,333
could have known that we needed to do research. I

971
01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:18,533
don't know. Um, the lifeguards is wonderful to hear because

972
01:02:18,794 --> 01:02:22,133
Panama did it years ago. Some legislator that was in

973
01:02:22,133 --> 01:02:24,773
charge up there was higher up like a president of

974
01:02:24,874 --> 01:02:28,613
the Senate or whatever. He actually had an exemption for

975
01:02:28,874 --> 01:02:32,613
Panama City that they could have the TDC funds would

976
01:02:32,613 --> 01:02:35,733
pay for lifeguards. And they, they did it on a

977
01:02:35,754 --> 01:02:38,693
formula with their population, et cetera. And that's how they

978
01:02:38,794 --> 01:02:42,213
got it. We as the counties and the city supported

979
01:02:42,554 --> 01:02:44,213
at Went to Tallahassee. He said, we want to do

980
01:02:44,253 --> 01:02:46,933
a Panama Cities doing. They said, nope, you don't meet

981
01:02:46,973 --> 01:02:49,493
that population - like Panama and you don't do this.

982
01:02:49,493 --> 01:02:51,973
So that's why we never got it. But I mean,

983
01:02:52,074 --> 01:02:54,373
if we're going to do something like this, maybe before

984
01:02:55,514 --> 01:02:57,613
the next meeting, if we get serious, we need to

985
01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:00,133
make sure if that's really what we want to spend

986
01:03:00,173 --> 01:03:02,533
our money for for the valves, since we already got

987
01:03:02,634 --> 01:03:04,933
a stormwater fee, and I don't know how many more

988
01:03:04,973 --> 01:03:06,853
we have in the hopper, it sounds like 300, 000

989
01:03:06,874 --> 01:03:10,213
more. Or is there another infrastructure thing that's related to

990
01:03:10,474 --> 01:03:13,333
Taurus that could also help. But I think it poses

991
01:03:13,434 --> 01:03:18,373
also budget related. And policy. So, and I'm glad you

992
01:03:18,373 --> 01:03:20,133
brought it up because now all the other cities are

993
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:21,613
going to look at it. Now they're all going to

994
01:03:21,613 --> 01:03:25,793
be wanting it to. Yeah. And that's not just us.

995
01:03:25,793 --> 01:03:28,753
All the cities along the, all the cities along the

996
01:03:28,753 --> 01:03:31,153
shoreline of Florida, because if you're going to do a

997
01:03:31,193 --> 01:03:34,284
fresh, you have to do it for all. So whatever.

998
01:03:34,284 --> 01:03:37,244
Okay. And now with amendment three, we may have to

999
01:03:37,244 --> 01:03:40,044
be more creative with that money because of whatever happens

1000
01:03:40,065 --> 01:03:43,644
with what funding we don't get if it does pass.

1001
01:03:43,825 --> 01:03:47,783
So anyway, so, um, so yes. I heard about it

1002
01:03:48,684 --> 01:03:52,664
during the meeting. That we were talking about. And that's

1003
01:03:52,664 --> 01:03:54,984
why I thought I didn't want you to not be

1004
01:03:55,005 --> 01:03:58,104
successful. If you're bringing for it, say our board wants

1005
01:03:58,144 --> 01:04:00,984
us to look at this. But maybe in the future,

1006
01:04:00,984 --> 01:04:02,464
if that's what we want to use it for, we

1007
01:04:02,464 --> 01:04:03,704
as a board should say that. Or if we have

1008
01:04:03,704 --> 01:04:06,589
another project. But that's up to you guys. We're pretty

1009
01:04:06,610 --> 01:04:10,109
used in a being successful at TDC. Even when you

1010
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:12,829
were on the board, we got turned out. I know

1011
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:14,509
because a lot of stuff you asked for didn't meet

1012
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:16,829
the crime. No, it did. State law. Well, you didn't

1013
01:04:16,829 --> 01:04:19,309
get it. I know because you didn't vote for it.

1014
01:04:19,309 --> 01:04:22,029
Oh, because it didn't meet the criteria. It did. The

1015
01:04:22,029 --> 01:04:26,189
attorney said it did years. It was unanimous at TDC.

1016
01:04:26,189 --> 01:04:29,469
The city attorney attorney said it did. You said you

1017
01:04:29,469 --> 01:04:32,709
didn't like seawalls. You wanted bike lanes or sidewalks. So

1018
01:04:32,709 --> 01:04:35,549
then we went for bike lanes and sidewalks and it

1019
01:04:35,549 --> 01:04:40,072
still got turned down. So yes, I understand. But it's

1020
01:04:40,072 --> 01:04:42,752
not going to make us stop trying. We're going to

1021
01:04:42,893 --> 01:04:47,432
continue to try. And I really commend her and Dan

1022
01:04:48,493 --> 01:04:51,832
for bringing it up in time for that next because

1023
01:04:51,832 --> 01:04:54,952
that was one of our budget items, even though we

1024
01:04:54,973 --> 01:04:59,432
did get, um, stormwater fee. We got a partial of

1025
01:04:59,472 --> 01:05:03,032
the stormwater fee increased. And I don't think you even

1026
01:05:03,072 --> 01:05:05,672
voted for stormwater fee. Oh, I didn't. Those only reach

1027
01:05:08,173 --> 01:05:12,887
our match. So, so we still have to get additional

1028
01:05:13,068 --> 01:05:17,447
funding for stormwater because we are really, we don't have

1029
01:05:17,487 --> 01:05:19,847
enough to do everything we want to do. You are

1030
01:05:19,887 --> 01:05:23,687
correct. I voted against it because Bill Claig, who actually

1031
01:05:23,727 --> 01:05:26,967
came from Orange County that when the TDC first star

1032
01:05:26,988 --> 01:05:30,247
or the Taurus tax first started, he recommended to us

1033
01:05:30,908 --> 01:05:33,727
that we could use it for your bike paths. If

1034
01:05:33,727 --> 01:05:35,847
we could connect it to a park, so Taurus could

1035
01:05:35,887 --> 01:05:37,287
say they went to the beach and then we're at

1036
01:05:37,327 --> 01:05:39,927
a park. And there was a problem with golf drive

1037
01:05:39,927 --> 01:05:41,687
that they couldn't quite make the park. And that's why

1038
01:05:41,788 --> 01:05:44,007
it got denied. And then another time we looked on

1039
01:05:44,047 --> 01:05:46,959
the seawall along here. But there was another connection we

1040
01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:48,959
couldn't make. So yeah, you are right on some of

1041
01:05:48,959 --> 01:05:51,508
that. Okay. Now can we go on to the next

1042
01:05:51,849 --> 01:05:56,456
thing? Are we on Unfinished Business? None. Uh, new business

1043
01:05:56,877 --> 01:05:59,576
authorized the mayor to execute an agreement between the City

1044
01:05:59,616 --> 01:06:03,896
of Homes Beach and accurate power and technology ink for

1045
01:06:03,936 --> 01:06:07,576
the purpose and delay purchased installation of the City Hall

1046
01:06:07,616 --> 01:06:10,496
Generator. I know we've talked about this before Herb. Do

1047
01:06:10,496 --> 01:06:12,776
you want to just give something very basics of the

1048
01:06:12,776 --> 01:06:13,736
public knows what's going on.

1049
01:06:24,605 --> 01:06:28,755
Health A. There you go. We'll do that. Way. Hopefully

1050
01:06:28,856 --> 01:06:36,187
this works. Awesome. So just real, real briefly, uh, follow

1051
01:06:36,227 --> 01:06:40,107
up to our previous conversations related to this. This is

1052
01:06:40,107 --> 01:06:44,827
for the replacement of the generator here at City Hall.

1053
01:06:46,958 --> 01:06:50,937
Just for everyone's recollection, the generator was installed in 1991.

1054
01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:56,434
For the last few years maintenance and generator has been

1055
01:06:57,575 --> 01:07:07,436
costly. And. We were able to secure a HMGP rant.

1056
01:07:08,323 --> 01:07:14,856
For the replacement. And it's approximately a 2575. Percent match.

1057
01:07:17,615 --> 01:07:23,872
Breakdown. So the city would pay 25 percent approximately. Federal

1058
01:07:23,912 --> 01:07:29,086
government A. And we have, we had five bidders, which

1059
01:07:29,086 --> 01:07:32,837
was fantastic. Unfortunately, one of the bidders had to be

1060
01:07:32,938 --> 01:07:36,659
deemed non - responsive. Because they did not submit a

1061
01:07:36,699 --> 01:07:42,248
bid bond. It still left us with four bidders. And

1062
01:07:42,509 --> 01:07:48,088
accurate power and technology is in accordance with our procurement.

1063
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:58,830
Code. Is the. Most responsive and responsible bidder. At

1064
01:07:58,851 --> 01:08:03,986
the best value. And so what that amount is, this

1065
01:08:03,986 --> 01:08:11,325
97, 951 dollars in 17 cents. We're using our standard

1066
01:08:11,426 --> 01:08:15,965
contract. Nothing really different from any other types of contracts

1067
01:08:16,005 --> 01:08:23,188
that we execute with various contractors. Obviously the biggest schedule

1068
01:08:23,209 --> 01:08:26,708
for this is just going to be waiting for a

1069
01:08:26,708 --> 01:08:30,641
generator to be fabricated. So once this fabricated installation should

1070
01:08:30,681 --> 01:08:34,640
go fairly quickly. And I asked her, but if I

1071
01:08:34,661 --> 01:08:36,960
recall, it's just, is it just for the City Hall

1072
01:08:36,981 --> 01:08:42,240
here? Does it? Correct. Yeah. So it's going to be

1073
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,639
elevated. Yeah. It's, it's going to be in the exact

1074
01:08:44,679 --> 01:08:48,903
same location where. The existing one is, which is elevated.

1075
01:08:48,903 --> 01:08:53,943
And it'll power the entire building, which includes police department.

1076
01:08:53,943 --> 01:08:55,943
And, you know, the call center of the 911 center,

1077
01:08:55,943 --> 01:08:58,583
which needs to stay open all the time for emergency

1078
01:08:58,623 --> 01:09:03,623
purposes. That's really good. No valuable. Any other questions, Terry.

1079
01:09:05,432 --> 01:09:08,371
Thanks for all the detail. We had time to really

1080
01:09:08,472 --> 01:09:11,639
dig into the weeds on this one. I wanted kind

1081
01:09:11,639 --> 01:09:16,259
of unusual that there was such a disparity. 1299 to

1082
01:09:16,299 --> 01:09:19,459
a locate of 68, 2006.

1083
01:09:26,414 --> 01:09:31,567
With this qualified contractor. Carol's already asked, can you address

1084
01:09:31,588 --> 01:09:37,879
the elevation issue. Reading through the material, I see that.

1085
01:09:38,381 --> 01:09:41,918
COLAR only offers a one - year warranty. And we

1086
01:09:41,939 --> 01:09:45,358
went through this post - storm. We had a whole

1087
01:09:45,398 --> 01:09:49,424
house, Kohler. I'd survive the storm, but about a year

1088
01:09:49,845 --> 01:09:54,467
for it. Kick the ball today. Seven years. Right. So.

1089
01:09:55,714 --> 01:09:59,665
Essentially I challenged Kohler. And they came back and said,

1090
01:09:59,705 --> 01:10:03,385
well, yes, it should have lasted longer. Our last lasted

1091
01:10:03,385 --> 01:10:05,145
35 years here. So I don't think we have a

1092
01:10:05,166 --> 01:10:09,127
complaint. But they offered at no additional cost. What would

1093
01:10:09,127 --> 01:10:11,287
be an additional cost for a 10 - year warranty.

1094
01:10:11,593 --> 01:10:15,412
And I wondered if you explored the possibility of having

1095
01:10:15,433 --> 01:10:17,581
an extended war. Do you know what that cost would

1096
01:10:17,581 --> 01:10:24,957
be. We not spoken with Kohler over that. Something that

1097
01:10:25,218 --> 01:10:29,314
we would like to call to do. Uh, since they

1098
01:10:29,314 --> 01:10:31,590
would be the ones making the purchase for us. So

1099
01:10:31,630 --> 01:10:36,220
we're not going to owner, purchase the equipment. Well, I

1100
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:39,900
think, um, I know you want to get this done.

1101
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:42,860
But while we're doing it before we sign the final

1102
01:10:42,881 --> 01:10:46,860
line, I would suggest at least determine what the cost

1103
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:54,245
is. And, um, let Executive Prince and you decide whether

1104
01:10:54,506 --> 01:10:58,135
it's a worthy additional cost. In our case. Always on

1105
01:10:58,135 --> 01:11:05,111
mechanics offer the additional 10 year. If I may, mayor.

1106
01:11:05,712 --> 01:11:13,291
Judy. So my recommendation would be right now it would

1107
01:11:13,291 --> 01:11:16,651
be presumptuous of us to ask the contractor without having

1108
01:11:16,752 --> 01:11:22,430
them under contract. To make that ask. So I would

1109
01:11:22,451 --> 01:11:25,310
say that, you know, my recommendation is that we would

1110
01:11:25,731 --> 01:11:28,631
enter the contract with a contractor. One of the first

1111
01:11:29,052 --> 01:11:30,791
tacits that we would ask them to do after we

1112
01:11:30,831 --> 01:11:34,930
kick the project off. Is to do that research and

1113
01:11:34,970 --> 01:11:37,010
let us know what that cost is. And then we

1114
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:39,970
could do an amendment to the contract for the difference.

1115
01:11:40,151 --> 01:11:42,690
That makes perfect. I have no problem with your choice.

1116
01:11:43,674 --> 01:11:46,693
You made the right choice, in my opinion. It's simply.

1117
01:11:47,769 --> 01:11:50,742
We can avoid a cost. That would be covered by

1118
01:11:50,763 --> 01:11:56,022
a reasonable. Correct. Maintenance extended maintenance. Correct. And, and, and

1119
01:11:56,043 --> 01:12:01,062
frankly, all four of the responsive bidders are, they're all

1120
01:12:01,062 --> 01:12:03,622
deemed responsible and responsive. You know, we could go with

1121
01:12:03,643 --> 01:12:07,942
any of them. However, where code is written, it's my

1122
01:12:09,243 --> 01:12:15,048
duty to recommend the most valuable. And I support most

1123
01:12:15,048 --> 01:12:22,602
affordable. My question wasn't relative to choice and recommendation. It's

1124
01:12:22,602 --> 01:12:25,002
simply correct. Another element. And I think you're right. Get

1125
01:12:25,042 --> 01:12:27,482
them under contract and then find out what the additional

1126
01:12:27,522 --> 01:12:30,537
cost. And you can recommend back to us for that

1127
01:12:30,577 --> 01:12:39,910
additional. Choosing. Perfect. And Jessica and then. Just so

1128
01:12:40,571 --> 01:12:44,590
out of this 97, right? So HMGP is going to

1129
01:12:44,731 --> 01:12:49,990
pay 75 percent of that approximately. I, I believe this

1130
01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:52,230
particular grant is, it's kind of an odd one where

1131
01:12:52,230 --> 01:12:58,230
it's like 27 point something. So at the end of

1132
01:12:58,230 --> 01:13:00,710
the day we'll be like paying 25, 000, like around

1133
01:13:00,891 --> 01:13:04,950
25, 000 probably, okay. Again, with all just like all

1134
01:13:04,990 --> 01:13:09,350
the other grants that we've been awarded so far, it's

1135
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:11,510
a reimbursement. Yep. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to

1136
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:13,510
make sure that that was end of the day. It's

1137
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:16,710
going to, it should be costing us around 24. Thank

1138
01:13:16,750 --> 01:13:20,835
you. Yeah, just quick, Herb. I read the technical specs

1139
01:13:20,936 --> 01:13:23,715
and I'm a little confused. Does it include an onomatic

1140
01:13:23,715 --> 01:13:28,728
transfer switch built into it. Actually, we're going to use

1141
01:13:28,728 --> 01:13:30,888
the one that we have. Okay. Like, cause when we

1142
01:13:30,888 --> 01:13:33,768
have is actually relatively new. It's I think it was

1143
01:13:33,869 --> 01:13:38,168
installed two years ago. Like right after the storms. Okay.

1144
01:13:38,168 --> 01:13:43,528
Um, and that's a large ticket item. And so because

1145
01:13:43,528 --> 01:13:46,088
I couldn't discern whether it was included in this bid

1146
01:13:46,128 --> 01:13:48,808
or not. Is this got an automatic reset feature in

1147
01:13:48,808 --> 01:13:51,048
the inner? Right. Yes. And, uh, that was one of

1148
01:13:51,048 --> 01:13:56,408
the questions that bitters asked and our response after coordinating

1149
01:13:56,448 --> 01:14:00,088
with the building department and having our current building official

1150
01:14:00,189 --> 01:14:02,008
taught. I don't know if you all know, but he's

1151
01:14:02,008 --> 01:14:04,507
a certified master electrician. So we had him look at

1152
01:14:04,547 --> 01:14:06,967
everything and he was like, Oh my goodness gracious. Why

1153
01:14:06,967 --> 01:14:10,358
would we get rid of this thing? They're expensive. Uh,

1154
01:14:10,358 --> 01:14:13,958
and so, and then talking with some other folks that

1155
01:14:14,059 --> 01:14:17,876
also agreed with that assessment. I was right the right

1156
01:14:17,916 --> 01:14:21,076
way to go. And so we responded to all the

1157
01:14:21,116 --> 01:14:26,200
bidders, let them know that, uh, it wasn't required. And

1158
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,520
that could be one of the reasons why there's such

1159
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,768
a disparity in some of these costs. Some of the

1160
01:14:31,768 --> 01:14:36,100
higher bidders may have. Not, you know, not caught that.

1161
01:14:36,922 --> 01:14:40,550
Um, but they all were made aware. You know, all

1162
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:45,170
through public comment, um, you know, public distribution of the

1163
01:14:45,170 --> 01:14:49,030
information. So because of the way the procurement goes, we

1164
01:14:49,070 --> 01:14:50,630
can't pick up the phone and call them and say,

1165
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:54,480
Hey, don't forget that blah, blah, blah. It was all

1166
01:14:54,741 --> 01:14:57,480
the same way. This is not a criticism. Just a

1167
01:14:57,480 --> 01:15:00,400
question. In a hundred KW is satisfactory for the whole

1168
01:15:00,421 --> 01:15:04,627
building. Yes. Okay. No problem at all. We don't have

1169
01:15:04,627 --> 01:15:07,787
to keep things off. Well, I'm a civil engineer. So

1170
01:15:07,787 --> 01:15:09,347
I'd hate to be the person to say yes or

1171
01:15:09,387 --> 01:15:11,667
no for sure, but from what I've been told from

1172
01:15:11,707 --> 01:15:17,187
the electricals is that yes, it will power the entire

1173
01:15:17,368 --> 01:15:22,219
building. And all of the existing equipment with capacity for

1174
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,099
additional things. And I believe, uh, during the hurricanes, we

1175
01:15:27,139 --> 01:15:33,159
were even allowing residents to charge their equipment here, uh,

1176
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,819
and at the same time, all the other existing equipment

1177
01:15:35,859 --> 01:15:39,735
was being powered. Okay. Thank you. Um, are we ready

1178
01:15:39,756 --> 01:15:43,526
to take action on this. Any other discussion. A move

1179
01:15:43,566 --> 01:15:48,301
we prove. A second. Motion by Terry's second by Dan.

1180
01:15:48,301 --> 01:15:52,713
Any other discussion. Seeing none, um, all in favor say

1181
01:15:52,753 --> 01:15:55,046
aye. I think we have to make us a roster

1182
01:15:55,086 --> 01:15:59,206
volume. Oh yeah, I forgot. That's right. Sorry. Thank you.

1183
01:15:59,246 --> 01:16:04,006
Commissioner Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Olfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner

1184
01:16:04,046 --> 01:16:09,404
Diggins. Aye. Chair Whitmore. Thank you. Okay. Now we have

1185
01:16:09,444 --> 01:16:12,604
an interlocal agreement for fuel services between the city of

1186
01:16:12,785 --> 01:16:16,242
Holmes Beach and the City of Anna Maria. Okay. This

1187
01:16:16,263 --> 01:16:19,762
is the one that I authorized herb. Yeah. And to

1188
01:16:19,762 --> 01:16:22,678
work with Randy on. We're trying to. Work with our

1189
01:16:22,718 --> 01:16:24,598
other cities and do what we can to for each

1190
01:16:24,598 --> 01:16:28,038
other. And, um, they've been sending all of their vehicles

1191
01:16:28,699 --> 01:16:34,445
off island for fuel. And they understood that we have

1192
01:16:34,466 --> 01:16:36,765
our tanks right here. And so he asked if he

1193
01:16:36,786 --> 01:16:39,405
could join in and he could pay for the fuel

1194
01:16:39,506 --> 01:16:43,592
they use. And. Good. So we have enough capacity. So

1195
01:16:43,592 --> 01:16:45,472
we said yes, it's a no brainer. So this is

1196
01:16:45,472 --> 01:16:47,872
the Interloco Agreement for that. This is a way we

1197
01:16:47,893 --> 01:16:50,032
can prove to everybody that we're working with our other

1198
01:16:50,213 --> 01:16:53,952
cities. That's another thing we'll put on our checklist. Okay.

1199
01:16:54,293 --> 01:16:57,898
Any discussion on that? Any questions. Okay. Do I have

1200
01:16:57,898 --> 01:17:03,913
an action. Of approval. Of a second. Second. I'm emotioned

1201
01:17:03,913 --> 01:17:07,495
by Terry's second by Steve. Any other discussion. All in

1202
01:17:07,495 --> 01:17:12,455
favor say aye. Aye. Oh no. Yeah. Let's just do

1203
01:17:12,495 --> 01:17:14,695
it. I just said that. That's somewhere this way. Commissioner

1204
01:17:14,695 --> 01:17:19,735
Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Ulfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner Diggins.

1205
01:17:19,775 --> 01:17:23,891
Aye. Chair Whitmore. Okay. Thank you everyone. Um, now we're

1206
01:17:23,912 --> 01:17:28,051
on the announcements, summer turtle talks again, Monday at 10

1207
01:17:28,091 --> 01:17:33,251
a. m. Wednesday the second. Parks of beautification at 10.

1208
01:17:33,251 --> 01:17:37,091
Also Planning Commission is at 330. September 7th, the City

1209
01:17:37,131 --> 01:17:41,066
Hall is closed for Labor Day. On September 9th Clean

1210
01:17:41,066 --> 01:17:45,386
Water Ad Hot Committees is at 9 and September 9th

1211
01:17:45,426 --> 01:17:48,986
is the City Commission's first budget meeting with a regular

1212
01:17:49,407 --> 01:17:52,426
hearing with a regular meaning to follow. And that starts

1213
01:17:52,447 --> 01:17:55,706
at 5. 01 p. m. by law. So there won't

1214
01:17:55,706 --> 01:17:58,986
be a meeting on September 9th about the budget until

1215
01:17:59,167 --> 01:18:02,354
5 p. m. That's by law. Um, okay. Do we

1216
01:18:02,354 --> 01:18:06,523
have any questions and comments from the mayor. Nope. Any

1217
01:18:06,563 --> 01:18:11,914
from the City Commission, Terry? Just one awareness. I've been

1218
01:18:12,895 --> 01:18:18,151
talking to Andrew Kallel. Of setting up a meeting with

1219
01:18:18,412 --> 01:18:24,471
Senator Boyd. And the issue is really an opportunity to

1220
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:31,831
discuss with him what he feels or achievable legislative priorities.

1221
01:18:32,865 --> 01:18:37,864
Every year we go before the Manatee County delegation. And

1222
01:18:37,864 --> 01:18:41,324
I've been doing this for seven years now, or six

1223
01:18:41,345 --> 01:18:46,781
in the past. This will be the seventh. And we

1224
01:18:46,821 --> 01:18:51,901
approve by Commission our legislative priorities with input from consul

1225
01:18:51,922 --> 01:18:59,341
with input from certainly since we've had good consultation

1226
01:19:02,242 --> 01:19:06,701
from Andrew to put together a slate of, number one,

1227
01:19:06,701 --> 01:19:09,501
and it'll continue. It'll be home rule. And that's something

1228
01:19:09,522 --> 01:19:13,356
I'd like you to think about. Carol, when you're before,

1229
01:19:13,377 --> 01:19:16,835
the legal women voters. And I'm glad you're there. Finds

1230
01:19:16,875 --> 01:19:19,235
the women's Republican club, but they feel the same way,

1231
01:19:19,235 --> 01:19:24,155
I think. Yeah. Just remember the impact this has on

1232
01:19:24,816 --> 01:19:27,515
the negative impact it has on home rule. It's an

1233
01:19:27,555 --> 01:19:33,115
egregious. It's an egregious stand against home rule in cities

1234
01:19:33,296 --> 01:19:37,504
and municipalities being able to govern their own financing. So

1235
01:19:37,525 --> 01:19:42,944
that triggered the thought. Let's sit down with the senator.

1236
01:19:43,826 --> 01:19:47,877
He's going to be the president of the Senate. Let's

1237
01:19:47,898 --> 01:19:52,037
try to find before we assemble our list and present

1238
01:19:52,037 --> 01:19:55,637
it, what he feels is truly. And it'll be his

1239
01:19:55,677 --> 01:19:59,957
opinion, regardless. But an opportunity to have a discussion with

1240
01:19:59,957 --> 01:20:02,597
him, with some of the frustrations we and many other

1241
01:20:02,637 --> 01:20:06,277
cities have with regard to this process. And really ever

1242
01:20:06,378 --> 01:20:09,957
finding any traction by any of our delegation of taking

1243
01:20:10,298 --> 01:20:14,917
a lead in supporting some of these, in my opinion,

1244
01:20:15,258 --> 01:20:22,082
uh, legitimate requests. So that, um, that will take place

1245
01:20:22,423 --> 01:20:24,882
probably in the next month. It'll depend on his, his

1246
01:20:24,922 --> 01:20:31,928
schedule. Terry, um, you're right. After Jim Boyd, uh, manatee

1247
01:20:31,949 --> 01:20:35,208
county and none of the cities here have any pull

1248
01:20:35,789 --> 01:20:39,128
in Tallahassee for quite a few years because the legislators

1249
01:20:39,128 --> 01:20:42,808
in the hopper to go for leadership positions. So this

1250
01:20:42,808 --> 01:20:46,508
is our, this is our only opportunity. And could we

1251
01:20:46,529 --> 01:20:49,948
at the next meeting possibly look at what our legislative

1252
01:20:50,049 --> 01:20:54,248
platform is and retweeted. And what we really, you know,

1253
01:20:54,609 --> 01:20:56,908
they only want usually, you can have 10 or 12,

1254
01:20:56,908 --> 01:20:59,308
but they only want to hear three. I've learned that

1255
01:20:59,649 --> 01:21:01,628
through all my years going up for 16 years up

1256
01:21:01,628 --> 01:21:04,605
there. They'll take your top three. So is there any

1257
01:21:04,605 --> 01:21:06,925
way that we could like have a, I know we

1258
01:21:06,925 --> 01:21:09,725
don't do work sessions. We do at our next meeting,

1259
01:21:09,725 --> 01:21:13,085
we can look at our, our platform and look at

1260
01:21:13,085 --> 01:21:16,285
and see if the change in it. And since this

1261
01:21:16,306 --> 01:21:20,025
is the only year he's here, I encourage everybody. And

1262
01:21:20,025 --> 01:21:22,125
I remember, I don't know if you had guys remember

1263
01:21:22,386 --> 01:21:26,256
Mike Bennett. When he was a senator. And we would

1264
01:21:26,256 --> 01:21:30,016
go up there and one year, only a couple of

1265
01:21:30,117 --> 01:21:32,978
us went up there in the county. And he goes,

1266
01:21:33,018 --> 01:21:35,538
why would I even give you guys millions of dollars

1267
01:21:35,799 --> 01:21:37,698
when you won't spend the money to come up and

1268
01:21:37,738 --> 01:21:40,543
ask me for it. So when he told us that,

1269
01:21:40,543 --> 01:21:43,903
that's why you see such a big constituent in town

1270
01:21:43,943 --> 01:21:47,981
doing it. Because they're always surprised that they have that

1271
01:21:47,981 --> 01:21:51,537
much support. And I would recommend strongly, I don't know

1272
01:21:51,678 --> 01:21:53,657
when the next session, I know they have like a

1273
01:21:53,678 --> 01:21:57,577
day where you meet your legislators. I'm not sure. We've

1274
01:21:57,577 --> 01:21:59,977
got a couple of days before it. But maybe we

1275
01:21:59,977 --> 01:22:02,217
should go up as a, and you have to vote

1276
01:22:02,238 --> 01:22:05,557
on it ahead of time. So the sunshine issues. And

1277
01:22:05,557 --> 01:22:08,057
you can go up and push them on things we

1278
01:22:08,078 --> 01:22:10,937
really want. This is a process that we've always followed

1279
01:22:12,638 --> 01:22:14,457
in response to your question. I think it's a little

1280
01:22:14,798 --> 01:22:20,479
premature now because these presentations don't occur until. March. After

1281
01:22:20,519 --> 01:22:23,479
the first of the year. Usually January. But it's, I

1282
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,999
mean, to get our homework done or studies, the money's

1283
01:22:25,999 --> 01:22:32,199
attached. What suggestions we bring back this year's priorities. My

1284
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:34,479
next step was to ask each of you to give

1285
01:22:34,519 --> 01:22:38,159
that some individual thought make suggestions because the end product

1286
01:22:38,740 --> 01:22:41,359
is a result of consensus on behalf of the commission

1287
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:45,999
of what not only our legislative priorities are, but the

1288
01:22:45,999 --> 01:22:48,399
priorities and how we list them. That's exactly what I

1289
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,599
meant. Our platform have now look at it and see

1290
01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:56,159
what we want. And maybe put stuff with it. Yeah.

1291
01:22:56,159 --> 01:22:59,679
So we can plead our case because again, Jim's next

1292
01:22:59,719 --> 01:23:03,679
year. And then we don't get any benefit. Marina, could

1293
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:06,799
you remember to just include this year's as a reminder

1294
01:23:06,820 --> 01:23:09,759
to everyone and we can have a discussion item on

1295
01:23:09,759 --> 01:23:11,679
that. Do we want to put it on an agenda

1296
01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:14,159
then just to go over it at the next meeting?

1297
01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:16,959
I don't want to go for early. It's far too

1298
01:23:16,999 --> 01:23:21,279
early to really decide, but if you want to look

1299
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:23,079
at it, just to look at it. And then if

1300
01:23:23,079 --> 01:23:24,879
anybody has ideas and they can bring it to another

1301
01:23:25,220 --> 01:23:29,279
meeting. Yes. And that's fine to have that discussion in

1302
01:23:29,279 --> 01:23:32,079
my opinion before I have the discussion with senate. Right.

1303
01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:36,132
Right. Okay. Right. Everybody okay. If you have any projects

1304
01:23:36,153 --> 01:23:38,852
that you think once you look at our gender when

1305
01:23:38,852 --> 01:23:41,172
they send it out with our platform is I've also

1306
01:23:41,353 --> 01:23:47,092
talked to ask Chad for his opinion on whatever he

1307
01:23:47,092 --> 01:23:53,892
sees, um, with regard to development and the curls that

1308
01:23:53,993 --> 01:23:56,532
are on state control that we've lost authority on to

1309
01:23:56,532 --> 01:24:01,417
determine whether he is any suggestions for our consideration. Years

1310
01:24:01,438 --> 01:24:04,697
ago I was put on that organization that reviewed us

1311
01:24:04,697 --> 01:24:11,257
about our consolidating when the legislators were threatened us, what's

1312
01:24:11,257 --> 01:24:16,055
it called? Opega. I was put on years ago. And,

1313
01:24:16,055 --> 01:24:19,655
um, we came up with a recommendation, Opega did all

1314
01:24:19,655 --> 01:24:23,019
the research. But cities have to do two readings for

1315
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,966
ordinances. But all the 57 counties don't. They only have

1316
01:24:26,966 --> 01:24:28,966
to do one reading. And they were trying to look

1317
01:24:29,067 --> 01:24:31,606
at ways to for government to be more efficient and

1318
01:24:32,267 --> 01:24:35,926
we brought that to the legislators like, why do cities

1319
01:24:35,966 --> 01:24:38,726
have to do too when counties only have to do

1320
01:24:38,827 --> 01:24:41,651
one. But it never went anywhere if the legislator. But

1321
01:24:41,651 --> 01:24:43,891
that's the kind of stuff that we could, you know,

1322
01:24:43,932 --> 01:24:46,631
with this stuff and moment three and all this stuff.

1323
01:24:46,631 --> 01:24:49,657
You may want to look at it. Yeah. Okay. Um,

1324
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:57,050
thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. Steve. No?

1325
01:24:57,496 --> 01:25:03,091
Yes. No, thank you. Yeah. No, nothing for me, mayor.

1326
01:25:04,568 --> 01:25:09,953
I know. Okay. The city attorney. And we have questions

1327
01:25:10,134 --> 01:25:16,765
or comments from the staff. Chief. Updates for y'all. My

1328
01:25:16,805 --> 01:25:21,942
usual stats here. Since Helene, we're almost up to 5,

1329
01:25:21,942 --> 01:25:27,987
000 permits issued. 1, 500 and 41 this year alone.

1330
01:25:27,987 --> 01:25:31,587
Plan reviews. We're over 14, 000 total inspections wherever 19,

1331
01:25:31,608 --> 01:25:35,074
000. We have 104 demo permits now. Um, I think

1332
01:25:35,095 --> 01:25:37,474
last time we reported, we were at night. I heard

1333
01:25:37,474 --> 01:25:40,514
four what? Demo permits. We have 39 of those have

1334
01:25:40,554 --> 01:25:43,634
applied for new single family homes. So we've got a

1335
01:25:43,634 --> 01:25:46,594
backlog of, we have 39 that have applied for new

1336
01:25:46,634 --> 01:25:52,069
homes. And we received 104 demo permits. How many of

1337
01:25:52,069 --> 01:25:54,229
those are in R1 and how many are in R2.

1338
01:25:54,925 --> 01:26:00,228
I don't know that. Breakdown. I'm not sure the breakdown.

1339
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,379
If you could work that out sometime, I think that'd

1340
01:26:05,379 --> 01:26:06,979
be helpful for us to know. It kind of gives

1341
01:26:06,979 --> 01:26:08,833
us an idea. What kind of rentals we're going to

1342
01:26:08,833 --> 01:26:15,498
get. Out. Of. Uh, we now have six homes that

1343
01:26:15,519 --> 01:26:18,262
are utilizing the elevate Florida program. The last time we

1344
01:26:18,283 --> 01:26:24,520
reported there were three. The additional, uh, HPMG funding. Is

1345
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:32,316
additional units. And we have 151 active turtlenes. It's impressive.

1346
01:26:32,316 --> 01:26:40,019
And 1611 vacation on the certificates. Chief? I'll just give

1347
01:26:40,019 --> 01:26:43,779
you one first two weeks of school. We've had 55

1348
01:26:43,819 --> 01:26:47,859
people that have exceeded the speed. And I believe nine

1349
01:26:47,859 --> 01:26:55,389
of them are island residents. Questomount now. We did have.

1350
01:26:55,389 --> 01:26:56,809
I don't know if y'all saw it on Facebook, but

1351
01:26:56,850 --> 01:27:01,381
we did have them publicly. Was my name Jessica. Jessica,

1352
01:27:01,381 --> 01:27:03,701
did you get one? No. No. Oh, no. But we

1353
01:27:03,701 --> 01:27:06,661
did have one person last Wednesday that came out in

1354
01:27:06,661 --> 01:27:10,261
the morning and was doing 31 miles an hour. And

1355
01:27:10,261 --> 01:27:12,421
then as he left the island in the afternoon, he

1356
01:27:12,421 --> 01:27:15,541
was doing 28. So he was given two tickets in

1357
01:27:15,541 --> 01:27:19,761
one day, uh, speeding in the school zone. Crazy. And

1358
01:27:19,761 --> 01:27:23,181
he received the citation in January of this year. So

1359
01:27:23,181 --> 01:27:27,181
he should have known. Okay. You won't get a Christmas

1360
01:27:27,282 --> 01:27:30,871
card for him. I've been, I'll open it up for

1361
01:27:31,052 --> 01:27:35,431
public comment one more time. Everybody wants to come up.

1362
01:27:35,431 --> 01:27:39,329
You got five minutes to talk about anything. And I

1363
01:27:39,369 --> 01:27:42,663
apologize for my voice. I've known of two people are

1364
01:27:42,663 --> 01:27:44,743
actually in the hospital with COVID. So I tested myself

1365
01:27:44,764 --> 01:27:47,863
before I came here. I just got a cold. Okay.

1366
01:27:47,884 --> 01:27:51,063
With that, this meeting's adjourned at 3. 30. Thank you.