Calling this media to order its 2 p. m. August
25th and welcome everyone. We're going to stand for the
Pledge of Allegiance and then a moment of silence.
See that. Okay, now we'll have roll call. Commissioner Schaefer.
Commissioner Elfke Commissioner Patel. Present Commissioner Diggins, Chair Whitmore. Okay,
now. Item number three, approval of minutes for the 3A
and 3B budget work session in the regular meeting. Would
anybody like to make a motion? Or does anybody have
any corrections before we do? Any corrections, anybody? And here
I would move approval submitted of both. My second, both,
I don't see any need to change anything. Okay, so
we have a motion of second, any other discussion. All
in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries, thank you. Okay,
now we'll do commission reports. Let's start at the end,
Terry. Okay, thanks Carol. Something kind of unusual came across
the screen, and I thought it was relevant to know,
and it was an article originally that. Appeared in the
Wall Street Journal and then covered by Apple News, and
it had to do with a city surfside beach in
South Carolina. And it kind of struck a nerve in
that this city had engaged in a contract with a
local contractor. The work had been done, and it was
time for payment, and there had been communication. Between the
public works director and the contractor. Well, that was all
well and fine, and they were working out the details
of final payment. So what occurred that caught my attention
and brought it to my attention into Julie's was what
kind of coverage do we have for cyber fraud. In
that what occurred was through fishing. And it very crafty
individual picked up on those emails between contractor and city
and sent and made a very minor modification that the
Most Highs would not have detected. Sending instructions to wire
transfer the 545, 598 dollars in 30 cents. To an
account that had nothing to do with the legitimate contract.
So what resulted was just out of curiosity, I mean,
normally this is covered in amendment A coverage in a
general bond. Or through Arizona. So I sent the article
to Julie. Julie did the research with our insurer. And
to everyone's, I think, approval and appreciation. We do have
that coverage. In fact, in place that would prevent it,
could it have been detected perhaps there wasn't as much
detail in the scrutiny of the request for payment, but
nonetheless, the important part is for us. To insurance. It's
called Fidelity Insurance. And I spent a couple years doing
that before my banking career, and that's why the article
caught my eye the first time. So the good news
is we have coverage, should it ever occur to us,
but it's in place. And we are protected. The other
item I wanted to refer to is amendment three, and
just disclose I've had some conversations with Randy and with
Judy regarding the city, taking a position opposing amendment three.
And I think after a lot of thought I have
questioned the League of Cities to determine whether they're aware
of any cities elsewhere in the state that have approved
either by consensus or by resolution and opposition, that we've
played phone tag back and forth with them. So I
don't know that that's the case. But at this point
in time, I don't think it's the time to take
a position. And I think I will be writing an
article. Personally. Which we're entitled to do because no dollars
are expended on behalf of the city to state, at
least my opinion, of the subject. And I would encourage
other members to give that some thought and decide what
they believe is the best position for them to take.
Terry, that's a good idea. I know Joe McClash used
to do that quite a bit, at the end he
would sign his name and say me as a personal
commissioner. Right. So yeah, that would be great. Though. Okay.
Well, I encourage others to give that some thought as
well, because I do think. The reason I thought it
was important is. I think it would be helpful for
our constituency to know where we stand. And we don't
speak for the Commission. We'll be speaking for ourselves individually
on the subject, and that it's going to be, I
think, a pretty controversial issue. And I've tried to keep
up with the commentary on primarily next door and others.
And it's pretty evenly distributed between those who favor and
those who oppose at this point in time, and we'll
get into the facts in our own letters. Next subject
is the police pension board. And I direct you two,
it's in your packet in section four. The reports speak
for themselves for both the past police pension board meeting,
which was way back on July 15th. But in your
packet, if you'd go to section four, I'm going to
do something. This time that I haven't done before. I've
offered the full report to any who want to see
it, but there's two, I think, salient pages that are
kind of summary. In nature. And that, again, this is
a 16 million dollar line item that does not appear.
On our financial statements. It's exclusively for the benefit of
future retirement benefits for a police officer. So it's not
on our financial statements as a city and municipality. So
the first page, you see the pie charts. Is everybody
there? It's in section four. I'll wait till you get
there. So it went up a million and a half
in value. In three months. I'll get to that. I
need to know that investment guy. We're pretty well. The
fund is very, very well advised by legal and administrative
and certainly management. So the first page where the pie
charts is simply a comparison over on the left of
where the fund was in dollars and the pie chart
gets down to which segments, those segments are delineated. On
the bottom line items to tell you what those segments
are of the entire portfolio. As Dana said, three months
later, the latest report, June 30. So this represents three
quarters of the physical year since September 30 is the
physical year for us and certainly the fun. So yes,
an increase from 14, 00789 to 16, 0122. More importantly,
is a breakdown on the next page. Numbered at the
bottom, page 22 of 119. And it'll give you kind
of a reiteration in the first column. It gives you
the line items or where the money is invested. In
the totals. The net transfers, meaning interfund transfers, not new
money, but buys and cells, where the money. What was
sold and what was reinvested. Most importantly, contributions. The third
column, you can see the 241, 000, 936 is the
total dollars. From three sources primarily the city's contribution, but
also police officers contribute six percent of their salary to
this fund and the state. Offers some assistance. It had
been averaging about Julie's not here, but Judy, you might
remember about 46, under 50 for many, many years this
year, I think. It bumped up to 62 or 63,
000 from the state. Part of which goes to the
fund. So, um, the others are distributions, meaning through the
first nine months of the year, 150, 000, 205 have
been paid out to our former officers, management fees, in
total, uh, that would include all sources. Including legal. So
the cost of the very highly qualified, I believe, advisors
of this fund. Is really pretty minimal when you're considering
a 16 million dollar fund. Other expenses for 38, 000,
that could be a myriad of expenses allowed by. And
these are all paid out of the funds, not in
addition to the city. Um, Advilum tax. And then return
on investments, you can see obviously amounted for a million
two hundred eighty three thousand of that pretty substantial increase.
And we were just the beneficiary of a rising tide
and market. And in my opinion, a very well -
managed fund, again, ending with a total balance. Again, we're
almost three months, at least two months. Uh, away from
this. So at the time at June 30, again, the
16, 122, 000 dollar fund balance then. So I just
thought it just fried a little extra time. I know
not many want to take the entire report and read
it. Uh, we do go over at every meeting. And
I would encourage other members. Really get, again, it's not
part of budgeting. It's not our responsibility. And we are
told by the actuary what we have to. So it's
not a discretionary issue when it comes to our budget.
The actuary determines based on five year, uh, five year
planning. And the good news is we have been on
the higher side of our contributions. They have been raising
and they did again for this current year, but it
looks like, and we are hearing from the actuary that
the trend line is going to be down. Uh, or
the next five years because of, uh, operating results. So
again, it's City funds, but earmark exclusively for our police
officers'retirement, which has been, I think, a key. I think
Chief, I've heard him say, I'm sure he'd repeat, one
of the key elements in recruiting and retaining the best
officers. Are available at the time when additions are replacements
have to be made. Any questions on that. Yeah, Terry,
does management fee item? Does that include both the legal
and the investment part? Yes. That's pretty reasonable. Yeah. You
know, I attended a couple of those meetings with you.
Pretty impressive. I think it'd be good to continue attending
this, Dan. Thank you, Tarek. You know. Okay. Um, Steve,
do you have any? Well, I've got, I've got just
a couple more things here. I'll definitely, May. And again,
the Clean Water Committee, I don't want to, um, I
don't really have any additional comments. But the Clean Water
Committee from the last meeting, they meet again. Um, I
think September, uh, 11. And then I hope everybody read
it. Mark Church was interviewed. And I really appreciate and
respect the honesty and his outing for, um, starm cleanup.
He was very, uh, honest in his assessment of their
city. And, uh, and I think I hope those who
are somewhat critical of our city two years ago read
that. Although we took some hits because we weren't as
quick to respond. And so we got, um, our feed
under us and knew we were a hundred percent in
compliance with FEMA. But it's going to result in, I
believe. And again, I didn't get a chance to ask
Julie. I think Judy, you may know, I think we're
going to recover either 97 or 98 percent. Of our
full cost of restoration costs by virtue of the path
we took. To get the work done. And it wasn't
just for the debris removal. You know, we kept our
state of emergency open so we can continue even over
time of staff. And we had to use subcontractor. What's
his name? Joe Payne. Yeah, we had third party inspectors.
We're getting reimbursed for everything that it cost us to
recover. So yeah, and I commend staff, all the training,
it helped. And they were there and they were committed
and everything was documented. So it really helped home speech.
It did. Again, I really appreciate Mark's approach to this
of taking the bull by the horns and earning from
it and going forward. I think it indication of his
honesty and value to their community. Yeah, Mark's doing a
great job. And Mayor, from what I read too, they
weren't, well, we always heard that they were not going
to be compliant because they didn't go through the vendors,
like the approved vendors. And is that kind of what
I was reading that there's still a shortfall and they're
not sure how they're going to get it because of
that. They did not have pre - awarded contracts. They
use local guys to remove their debris. And they also
did not have the monitoring company, which is the other
thing you have to have pre - awarded. You have
to document where the trash came from where the debris
came from to make sure it actually came from your
city. So they had to follow the trucks. That's why
you had different people sitting everywhere throughout the city as
they were monitoring every truck, every truck had to be
pre - weighed. It had to have a number on
it. Everything was tracked. So, I mean, the paperwork is
incredible in order to get rid of this from FEMA.
And they also did not have a DEP approved debris
site. We always kept ours. We've always had the approaches.
We've always kept it. Um, up to date. And they
just used bayfront park and it was not. I mean,
it was. We knew we did it right. I hoped
they were going to get reimbursed because their sister City.
But yeah, that was pretty hard. Can you explain why
we had to dump it here and then move it
a second time? Is that part? Because the landfill was
an hour and a half away. And for the truck
to fill up and then take an hour and a
half trip and wait in line to dump, it would
have taken forever to get it off the streets. So
you do a debris field so they can take short
trips, get it out of the people's neighborhoods, dump it
here. And then they crush it and it's less trucks
going to the landfill. So there was a logical reason.
There's an all science behind it. If smaller storms and
if it's mainly just branches and things will, you know,
you can maybe take the time to, um, drive it.
But the bigger storms you tend to open up a
degree. Site. Thank you. Years ago when we dredged all
the canals in the city, we did the same. With
the ball field. We dewatered it. Cause then that then
it went to the landfill. They didn't charge us for
any dumping fees. But we let it sit for a
while. I think you have to all the time, don't
you know? No, they do it in bags. Oh, they
do. Oh, okay. That's new. Okay. Yeah. I feel bad.
Um, you know, Mayor's short inherited what the actions were
in the past. But you know, everybody was trying to
do what they could do. And we just hope that
they can get some money back. I'm sure we all
feel that way. Right. I think our patients paid off.
Right. Yeah. That's all I have, Carol. Thank you. Steve.
Yeah. Um, so next week waste pro is going to
be kind of auditing around the city, um, cans that
are supposed to be side door service, making sure that
that's all still accurate. Um, if there are any concerns
about side door service, um, JT asked for people to
reach out to code compliance so they can get involved.
Um, they're also code compliance JT's team is going to
be focusing on, um, house numbers and addresses. They really
need to get everybody, you know. Properly identified for safety.
First responders and for even for making sure even with
Waze Pro and making sure they have the right. House
for the right services of Worth. Um. They also, um,
came up with the new. Signs for, and I was
just given this. Maybe you might be able to help.
Make sure I'm correct with this. For the beach ends.
They're going to be wrapping the trash can. So I
think this may be on the trash. Is it a
wrap or is it just a sticker? Might be just
a sticker. I think the trash cans are going to
be identified by a new color. They're going to be
brown with a blue top. And those are going to
be specific to the beach ends. So they know which
ones are theirs. Um, and then those are going to
be stickers that go on them. Unplastic your life.
And then this is a cool Bigfoot one that says,
leave no trace. Another good message. That resonates with the
current popularity of Bigfoot these days, I guess. Um. I
love Bigfoot. Yeah. And I did ask JT and I
ended up communicate with Jason about the sea turtle disorientation.
Originally, I thought it was Holmes Beach because I think
they put it in the press of his home speech,
but it was actually in Bradenton Beach. Um, so glad
you brought that up. I was really surprised to see.
Yeah. No. And basically they said of the hundred and
so many, um, disoriented hatchlings found only five have been
in home speech. Um, so, and because I thought about
Jason when I heard that, I knew that that was
really close to his, you know, heart and to put
a lot of, and puts a lot of work into,
um, staying in touch with Kristen with turtle watch and
spending, you know, he and Alison go out and monitor
the beach. And do what they can. Uh, he did
indicate that they are working towards, um, working with FPL
to try to get them to put more amber colored
street lights for the LEDs that are up. It's just
very costly. So they're kind of working through that and
mentioned something about. I think they're tried to, maybe FBL
was doing it. It's trying to get a grants. To
help with the fun. They're cause difference. They can even
more amber lights closer to the beach. Um, that's all
I had. Thank. You. Yes. Um, I went to the
Anna Maria Commission meeting last week. And they talked about
side door service. Now they have waste probes well. And
the service. They were working on an ordinance that said
cans have to be placed at least 20 feet. Some
number. On the road or in an enclosed area. Do
we have anything like that? Yes. We do. And that's
some of the auditing that they're going to be going
out. Because if people and leaving hangers, they warn people
if they believe, if you know, yes, you have to
bring your cans in. And part of the service that
they're supposed to break. That's side door service. You know,
that's just, if you're paying extra for side door service,
then that would be bad. Yeah. No, yes. Cydoor service,
the ways pro. So if that's kind of the, I
think the example that JT was giving is if you
feel like your cans aren't being brought all the way
back and should be, then get a hold of compliance
because they'll go out and do it and make sure
it stays compliant and work with waste pro to make
sure they get it correct in their system. Had, uh,
had a guy or duffey's. She lives on South Harbor
by the church. And they've been trying for months and
months and months to get the trash out of their
front yard. I mean, the new cans, the people in
the house next would just leave it out there. And
finally, um, JT went and sure enough, I don't even
think the people were paying for the side service, which
they're supposed to if it's a short term rental. Right.
I thought that's our law, our ordinance. You can't treat.
Them different than anybody. Else. But most of them do.
So I thought they had to. Okay. So anyway, I
think it was taken care of. But he took care
of it right away. And it's hard to make sometimes
the guy's, you know, when they get mad, watch out.
If you ever been to Duffy's, you know. Okay, Jessica.
The only thing I have from the center is that
the Greg Le Pensi Bowling tournament is coming up. Saturday,
September 12th, 2026 at Bolero on Cortez Road. It starts
at six. You can call up the center to buy
your lanes or tickets for the event. Team Custom Contest,
Silent Option, 50 - 50 raffle, all those good things.
So reach out to the center if you're interested in
going to the Le Pensi Bowling channel. And it's for
the island, the Community Center, but I've been going for
at least 10 years every year. And it's a major
island citizens. They all get together. You don't have to
bowl. They have all kinds of prizes you can buy
tickets and stuff. I've never bowled. I've gotten there and
said hi to all my friends. So. Yeah, it's really,
you don't have to, and you can buy lottery tickets
and everything just like everybody else for all the gift
baskets. But it's a, it's a center fundraiser. You don't
have to bowl. Yeah. I usually don't bowl. It's usually
just like a fun event where you just come out
everybody from the island and raise money and, you know,
put your little raffle tickets in and do the auctions
and that kind of stuff. That at the alley on
Cortez. Yeah. Yep. Whatever. September. 12th. No. Recently.
Just. The other day. We have a new sign. Different
name. It's called something strike or something. Like that. Lucky
strike. Yeah. Oh, well actually that's better than the other
name. I never could remember that. It was just earlier
this week or so. Oh. Maybe it was earlier. Today's
Tuesday, right? Yeah. It was last week. Well, there you
go. Well then lucky strike then. Formally. Yeah. The bowling
alley on Cortez. Yeah, that was not supposed to be
funny. Applebee's hasn't changed his name right across from Applebee's.
Is that it? That's it. Dan. Dog Parks doing wonderful.
Thank you, Herb. And mother nature's helping with natural rainfall.
Uh, it looks great. And it's fully open now, I
think, right? The Big Dogs don't seem to be tearing
it up. Too bad. So. I know give him time.
It's the, um, wait till season. It's the winter season
when it's dormant. That's when that tends to get. A
Herb. I took a look at the 56th Street project
the other day. You know, you see pictures and you
get briefings and you don't really understand it to you.
You actually put dry balls on it. I climb down
in the hole and watch what they were doing down
there. Are you covered under our comp? Holy, all I
can say. They were rerouting a water main around. These
guys were in the trenches with ratchets and wrenches. And
screwing this thing together. It's pretty complex. And the pipe
that's going in case you want to the size of
the pipe. It's big at the end. What is it
like a 12 or 24 inch? It's 48 inch. Oh
48. And that's for stormwater, right. The one you're putting
is for stormwater. And tide valves and I always had
my mind valve is about this big. Oh boy. Was
I wrong. Um. I crawled down in a hole and
a guy was in the outflow. You actually crawled and
he was a pretty good sized guy. He actually crawled
inside the outflow himself. And he's in there install the
tide valve. And he's his whole body is in there.
So the outflow is about this big. So if you
really were wondering what we're paying all the stormwater fees
for. Just take a look at that. I was really
impressed. The herb does this all the time, but I
was shocked at the size and the scale. So thank
you for what you do. Yeah. And it's been rough
on that neighborhood, but I'll be since Judy was born
even. I mean, it's been those small pipes underneath. So
finally, we're getting something done. And hopefully it'll help our
chronic problems that we've had over there forever. So, and
I did notice that first time 20 years, maybe longer.
Major rain has come and I've driven by the, I
call the gas station here. The auto repair. The shopping
center, home street shopping center. And in front of here,
first time I've ever been able to drive with no
major flooding at all. This is before this closed down.
So it's working. And I mean, I was, I mean,
that's one thing I noticed. It was a major reign
and I was able to drive like within 20 minutes.
And it was. So good job. Okay. The only thing
I have to report is I'm speaking on behalf. I
guess myself at the Women's Republican Party about amendment three.
I still got to do a lot of my research.
I guess Marianne Barnaby is going to be, they want
to talk about what the cities think about it. I
really don't have any, um, opinion out of one way
or the other. Whatever the citizens decides we're going to
have to deal with. But I want to research on
it. And not try to sway either way, you know,
just try to speak of the facts. Um, pace. Pace
called me yesterday somebody from Tallahassee. And I refer them
to the mayor and to Chad. Um, it's that program.
Have you ever heard it? And I forgot Glenn Javelina
tried years to get the county to do it. And
it's a program. And they're thinking of the aisle in
the barrier islands after all these storms. It's a way
you can fund to make your house more resilient. And
actually what I understood the county didn't have anything. Just,
they just said it was okay. And that's what they
asked the cities to be able to allow these people
funding to be able to do that if they wanted.
I told them I think we have like six or
seven houses that are elevating now. But I told them
to talk to you to guys and he's going to
call and see if you guys are, if we're interested
and then you can bring it before the board because
the board has to approve it. Yeah. Actually sent me
an email. 10 minutes before the meeting. So I reached
out. He sent a pamphlet. And as soon as I
have a chance to digest it, I'll get with a
mayor and we'll set something up. Good. Okay. I'd heard
about it. And then I didn't realize that it had
already been in the county so good. Um, I stopped
by here leaving after getting my mail and I, the
turtle talk was here the other day. And it was
so cool some mothers brought their kids. And which I
did know, and I love science, uh, the turtles with
shells. They have all of these little critters that are
on their shelves that travel all over. And the critters
get off and they kind of just do our ecosystem.
I thought it was really cool. Um, everybody seemed to
really enjoy. And the two ladies speak and did a
really good job. And I know you guys have been
to them. So and I think it's every Monday. They
failed the chamber every Monday. Yeah. Yeah. And I like
that they were bringing kids. So. And the last thing
I did the infamous e - bike tour on the
island last Sunday didn't fall. But I wanted to show
my friends, the city, and we all started. We started
Anne Brandon worked our way down. We went to the
public beach for lunch and everything. And just got to
look around in all the back roads and stuff. I
got a lowrider one, you know, and I went slow
because I, you know, I'm nervous about them too, but
it was a good experience. And it was fun. Of
course. Yeah. I'm the one that found that kid on
Manity Avenue that had the head injury. Um, speaking of
that, um, when all this stuff is done on 56th
Street where the home speech post office is a marina
drive, well, that's four way stop, go away. They are
two way, it was four way now. Okay, good. We're
directing everyone down Holmes'boulevard and the people that are on
Gulf Drive were not allowing people to come so we've
made it a four - way stop. So it's just
safer. It only broke the lie. I drove through it
the other day and I realized it. Tickets in the
mail. You didn't catch me. You didn't have your camera
there. So, and that's all I have. Um, okay. Mayor,
do you have a report. Okay. Well, I enjoyed my
almost three weeks away at the Keys. The water was
crystal clear and there was plenty of lobsters. We had
a lot of fun with the family. Recently though, we
did just have a meeting with the county folks. We
do that every year. Charlie Bishop and their staff come
and they go through anything they can do for us.
Anything we can do for them. Um, these last two
years. When was our last election that we got rid
of some. Relationships have been amazing. Tao's awesome. Charlie's been
really great. The staff is there. There's just been really
great with home speech. Um, we had several topics we
talked about. First was beach patrol. Uh, I told them,
remember we still had an extra 25, 000 hopes for
this year. Increasing our beach patrol money. Um, they, they
were hoping that. Being that TDC can now fund lifeguards
that might be able to get some of the lifeguard
funding available for beach patrol, but that hasn't happened yet.
They have not brought that up in front of TDC
to do that funding. So they're still short money. So
they cannot promise anything. They're still going to see what
they can do. But it doesn't look promising for this
year, nor does it look promising for any increase next
year because they still want to implement consideration for implementing,
um, paid beach parking. Which and also the boat ramps.
And they want to use that funding source. For Beach
Patrol. And I said, well, we can't wait. They don't
want, they don't want to do, they didn't want to
talk about it this year because election season and they
know that's going to cause some anxiety. Um, as soon
as you talk about paid Park, you get beaches. So.
We don't know what we're going to do about getting
any additional funding. I told them every year you don't
increase it. You're actually defunding us because salaries continue to
go up. Costs continue to go up gas continues to
go up. They're aware of that. But right now everybody
knows the county's a little tight on funding too. And
especially with this, um, potential increase of homestead exemption. If
it goes to referendum, they're going to be looking everywhere
that we're going to be looking for funding to health
offset that. Um, so beach patrol is still an unknown.
Kingfish boat ramp, commercial rentals. We talked about the concerns
we have. I don't know if you all have noticed,
but the lot more vehicles, not vehicle trailer, but a
lot of just vehicles. Taking up the parking at kingfish.
And what that is, we've always had local captains fishermen
picking up people there. But now we've got boat rental
companies moving in. And they're the pontoon boats that can
carry, you know, one, two families. So they've added to
the parking, even though it's a commercial use. It's not
allowed. We have to catch them. And we have to
be there watching them, you know, citing them. So right
now. One time I was leaving. I don't know how
many cars there was parked on the other sea. And
they were just pulled in like a diagonal, which is
against the law. If you're going to park there, it
has to be parallel with the blow traffic. So they
all got tickets. Chief said he went out and took
it them all. So now they're parking. It's parallel. But
it's a state road. They're really not supposed to be
there anyway. So we were watching, your chief was through,
he had some videos where people with young kids were
parking there to come to a rental boat. And they
were racing across Manatee Avenue. Between cars, and we're going,
if we continue to look the other way and someone
gets hit because we're not enforcing state laws, if you're
not allowed to park on right away zone state roads,
are we going to be liable? Not just liable, but
it's not saved. So we've been, we talked with Randy.
We talked with the county folks about it. And they
said, yeah, we really, the state really should put the
signs up. They were putting them up during COVID and
we said, don't do it. You know, that's just bad
timing. People need to get out in their boats. You
know, we have no objection if boats and your cars,
you know, trucks and trailers are parked there because there
was limited parking. At the boat ramp at that time.
But now it looks because it's turned into be a
more commercialized use. And the fact that now we're getting
vehicles, not just trucks and trailers, we might have to
go ahead and reach out to the state. So I
think the county was going to do that for us.
I already did it. You did? I sent them videos
showing the people leapfrogging between cars with kids and coolers.
And they were not happy. And they said that they
would get back with me. But they're going to take
action. I suspect that they'll put up the signs of
no parking on the right way over there. Can I
ask a question? Because I was, I was around when,
when, um, the city didn't want, I mean, we all
know what we got to concern that people were parking
across the street. And it was just around after COVID.
So Sherry had this told the state and all of
a sudden they put the signs up. We didn't even
know they were going to do that. And they said,
no parking. Then our city here said, no, we don't
want to do that because the charters, they use them
for their guests to come and then they would walk
across the street. So the county called the state back
and they took them away. So Scott Moore called me
when this was in the paper, I think, with the
pontoons. We all saw it in the paper. He goes,
and he goes, I'm telling people, they just better be
careful what they're asking for because that includes charters too.
And like Scott Morn, people like that make a business
picking up people and leaving. And yeah, I don't like
the tourists going up and running a pontoon and having
12 people on it. But it's still the same thing.
It's a commercial business. And I think there was enough
parking when it was just a charter. It's once upon.
Then you noticed. And the jet ski guy. Well, then
you noticed now we don't have enough vehicle parking. So
they're ruin it for everybody. And so I told Charlie,
I said, when you're laying in bed in the middle
of the night with your eyes wide open like I
do. And it's like, can you see if how we
can solve this issue with charter fishermen? Because it's not
right that they've been pushed out of living here on
the island because the resort, everybody saw the Christmas tree
maps of where resort housing is everywhere, even in northwest
Brington. They're pushed out. That's their access to the water.
And now we're looking at Sarasito's looking at, they have
to bid for a medallion like a franchise. So it's,
it's tough. We've got to take care of the people
that are trying to live, you know, make a living.
Their kids go to school here. And at the same
time address what's happening with all the jet ski rentals
and boat rentals that are trying to come in and
take up the parking. So there have to be more
discussion. And also at the county and on how we're
going to address this. And I agree that how I
want to really protect the Scott Moore, he wouldn't leave
it alone. He says watch out because you guys are
going to do this and this is going to affect
us that actually live out here. But we pick our
custards and ears up. So if we're, and how do
you discriminate, unfortunately like the rental world, you're not allowed
to limit them anymore, but just so we all know
this may affect the islanders. Well, for our commercial business.
Code, it could be written different than the counties and
that's a county park. So we're having the county come
up with, they know we want to support our locals.
And our local charter fishermen have always been there. And
they haven't been an issue. So I've reached out to
them to try to see what they can do to
solve the issue. Terry. I just wonder. Chief. Are the
rules the same for the ramp. Sau. As their enforcing
act. The rules pertaining to. Parking. Yeah. They have, uh,
they have dedicated parking at Palmi sola for the boat
and trailer. And they allow people to park all over
there right away there. What are they allowing. The. Load
their. Passengers there? Oh, they're doing that. Yeah. They're doing
that. And so the jet skis, there was like 50
jet skis out there, uh, over the weekend. And they've
made their own ramps just by backing it down. They're
not using the rams. They're just making the just going
in there backing it up. And they're just, there's no
enforcement at all. In fact, Tal said the county may
need to go ahead and just sever the relationship with
Bradenton being the one to enforce that because there is
no enforcement. That's their jurisdiction, Brayton, not the county. That'll
the county said they've, they have a. Only own the
bathroom. They have an agreement with City of Bradenton to
a boat ramp. Just for the boat ramp and the
bathrooms of the state. That's the only thing the counties
have. I wonder if part of the problem is they're
not mowing and maintaining that. I realize. It's a construction
site. It looks horrible. It was from Kingfish. They haven't
mowed that. Four months. I think that that's because they're
using it for staging. I know there's using all of
it. It's an appearance thing. It'll be done next week.
Hopefully that'll all be cleaned up after the project. But
it may also be minimizing me. Exactly. Because it's more
marshinette. That's not a bad thing. Okay. Dan and then
we'll go and get onto the agenda. Chief, do these
folks in these folks that use the ponto boats? Do
they have a license and insurance to do this? We
can regulate that. They're not supposed to be there. So
we just have to, they asked us anytime we see
them to make them leave. We're only allowed to be
there for 15 minutes. No, they're only allowed to be
attached to the doc for 15 minutes and we will
give them a citation if we see them staging and
waiting on their people to get there. Oh, good. I
just don't want Kingfish to look like the causeway. Well,
exactly. Well, that's what's happening. It's the only difference is
they're not sitting up tents. You know, they're just, they're
going and they're staging on the, uh, east side of
the bridge. And then they sit there and they've got
their trucks with the pontoons or their jet skis sitting
there off to the side. And then when, you know,
five minutes before their people are supposed to meet them
there, they go and they drop the boat in the
jet skis and people meet them there. And clever workarounds,
aren't they? I've never seen a jet ski leave our
kingfish. I always see them on the causeway. Oh no,
we've got, uh, four trucks. Are they allowed to? Eight,
uh, eight on each one, eight jet skis. We had
that issue at 63rd Street as well. And then some
discussion and I know a new signage went up. I've
heard you've heard more. Complaints about just that. Some of
the charter. And Untune captains were staging there. It's a
very small dock. And we only allow 15 minutes as
well there. And I think we have assigned no commercial
use because you're not allowed to have commercial use on
that deeded land. Using it. And there was a jet
ski crash in Anna Maria this past weekend with a
death. So for death. Like Beanpoint area, right? Yeah.
Dangerous part. Yeah. Single vessel crash.
That's good enough. So they were, were they renting the
jet ski. Okay. The next topic was trolley shelter
funding. They know that we've been sort of given the
runaround. And it's because people leave who's at county. And
then we got to go to the next person. And
now that one we just were told is no longer
there. So. Now Chad left. But then there was somebody
else after Chad. So Charlie said, just send us the
invoice. So. We're working on that. He said, yes, the
amount that they normally fund for a trolley shelter should
come to the city. And the addition from having the
ones that look, you know, beachy and islander. And they're
not just the metal ones. Then we can go for
TDC funding for the difference. A thousand. No. We did
bigger ones. Um, the, the public's shelter is at least
two or three times bigger so that one would be
a bigger dollar. But then not necessarily it was bid,
it was expected to be 25, 000 dollars. And that's
why that was in our budget. So this one's bigger.
It wasn't, it's not going to go from 65 to
more. It's supposed to go out to rebuild and we're
hoping to get lower than 65. No, I'm not talking
about that. That's something different. Different, different trolley stop? No,
what I'm talking about is the difference. Say if the
county pays the 6, 000 dollars per shelter. And our
shelters cost 15, 000. The difference of that cost we
can go to TDC and try to recoup that kind
of money from them. It's what is what they're. Which
we've been advocating for years. We totally can justify because
we only have 2, 500 residents here. And we have
50 or 60, 000. You can do it by the
trolley numbers. How many they ride. So that's totally tourism.
Okay. The last was paid parking. Um, I have been
in conversations with Mark Short. We've seen that they are
looking at what they have to do. They, they invested
in a parking plan. I think beginning of the year.
So it was just unveiled. Everybody knows that we've done
our parking map. And we've identified what we would have
if we went forward with paid parking. And we've just
been sort of waiting until we were pushed into paid
parking because the county does it. So they've been doing
the same thing. They want to wait, be ready. Um,
because we all have to do it at the same
time. So we just had another meeting with Mark. And
this one was on exactly what they're looking at for
their paid parking. It's very similar to what we would
probably suggest to the board if we had to be
moved into the paid parking. Um, which. And so we
both used the same chief names. Passport tickets. They're the
same vendor that is working with Anna Maria. So, so
what I, what I told Mark was, we're going to
probably be very similar. Manatee County might be different with
theirs. I don't know what vendor they would use if
they would do passport. But. Manatee County would maybe approach
it differently because it's their manatee county parks. They would
probably look at minute county residents either free or very.
A lot less money than out of towners. We would
be looking at protecting home speech, property owners. Ana Maria
would be looking at protecting theirs. So although we might
have little difference with our paid parking, we're hoping they
would be very similar as far as use for the
people that are using it. So we're just doing exactly
what Mark doing. We're doing the background work in case
it looks like it's going to happen. Or in case
these two cities decide, let's do it. Let's not wait
for the county. The staff has been prepared to act
if we need to. What about Brayton Beach? I mean,
it would be nice if everybody was caught. There was
continuity. Well, that's count. I'm calling Braden County because Brandon
Beach has zero right away parking pretty much. And all
of their beach parking is county. So that's where I
say county. That's what I mean. But yes, Braden Abbeach
would be a part of it as well. Do we
have all the map that you just talked about for
our city? Is that available somewhere? It's online. Yep. And
if you need someone to print it for you, we
can. Thanks. I'd like a copy. It's all the parking
within a quarter mile distance from the beach that's available
for all these residential neighborhoods. And, um, I'm thinking it's
like 800 and something parking. 102. But it also includes
the county beach parking. So I wouldn't recommend going any
farther than that, you know, getting into other people's quality
of life just for a money maker. But, um, you
might have to turn everything else into permit parking. So
it doesn't become parking where people try to avoid the
paid. So it could be messy. So we're going to
get you all the information. So if it does come
forward staff will be able to give you everything for
your consideration. And could you give us a copy of
that? I know we have paid parking for residents, which
I totally refused to pay for. I don't even know
where they are. But can we on a map have
where they are? Because if we're going to do both,
we need to get rid of the one. We don't
have to kill. I know it's 50 dollars. And no,
it was never 50. One time ago. No, never 50.
It was 10. Whatever it is, I'm not paying to
park when I live here for two years. It's permit
parking. And a lot of the permit parking that we
used to have went away when we, uh, went to
all four tires off the road because you couldn't get
off where tires off the road. So. We don't actually
have a map that a lot of people love parking
in those places. So you're going to get pushback from
residents that. And I got to tell you, I don't
want to get into the paid parking discussion cause it's
big. But you cannot get rid of permit parking if
you go to paid parking. Because if you don't have
permit parking, here, people are going to park there so
they don't have to pay 458 an hour here. So
what happens with paid parking, you actually add more permit
parking. So every other street of the city doesn't become
someone trying to avoid paying an hourly rate to park.
So it is messy once you start going paid parkings.
But we'll have all that information for you when you're
ready to talk about it. Next. Okay. Just where would
I find it on the city site? Sorry. I'm just,
what do you want to know or something? The parking
math. No, there's a, what do you want to know
or something on the City website? You go to, I
want to and you go down to find parking. Oh,
I want to find parking. Thank you. It's an interactive
map there. That's a parking map, but I don't know
if there's the permit parking map is probably still there.
Um, and that's it. Okay. Now can we get on
to the agenda. Yes. Um. Paid parking is going to
be a heated issue in the next couple of years,
I think. But I'm not sure the county has the
authority to issue free parking to man to your residents
at the county beaches. Because those 1400 parking spaces are
used for beetree nourishment. And I think it is for
B tree nursing my understanding is everybody has to pay
the same. Exactly. That's correct. And we will of course
research and assure that we're clear on that guidance to
the extent clarity can be found at all. Right. Um,
we'll make sure that once we have a substantive discussion
on the parking thing that we have that context. Yeah,
I just didn't want to throw another wrinkle in it.
Randy, explain that again. No, just explain again because I'm
not into all this like, seems like you are. I'm
being asked to explain a question. But what I would
say is that there's, depending on where you're talking about,
what divisions of government you're talking about. Attendant to Beatri
Nourishment historically, the guidance from the federal government and as
administered by the state that where Beach Renourishment dollars and
resources are utilized that a certain amount of parking has
to be available to the general public at no charge.
Um, there's been, not sorry. And that's why I said
like, and that was in another county. That was in
another county. And why I was trying to be vague
on purpose, um, because I don't know the exact parameters
here, but there has to be some allotment for public
parking. Um, and so there are certain parameters around that.
It is constantly evolving landscape and guidance from the Army
Corps of Engineers, federals and the state. And we would
want to make sure that in addition to whatever agreements
and commitments we have as between the City of Homes
Beach and the county, we're also aware of any regulatory
compliance. That is attendant to parking without making any, for
my friends in the press commitments or, or affirmative statements
on what the policy absolutely is in this moment where
we have not been researching that actively. What the policy
is. Whether you're from Ohio or Holmes Beach, that parking
place is available for you for the same amount of
money or free. So, and there's a certain amount of
parking per block. Or length of beach. That you have
to provide for Beach Renourishment Dollars. And so public beach
on the beach renourishment, there's like 325 spots shows up
that that is available to all at the same rate
or no right. Home speech. On our secondary parking. That's
primary parking. Secondary parking because I know the restrooms. There's
no lifeguards. It's just secondary beach parking. There's a few
spots all up and down our beach. That total 65.
That's all we have to, and then you get credits
for some bike racks and trolley stops. But those 65
spots throughout Home Speech would be city getting funded if
it became paid parking or not. You can keep it
free for all. The 325 is right now. What. That
was the last beach renourishment. Paperwork that we received. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but. And I believe we have
more than that. We have about 800. Yeah. Designated. Two.
Yeah. 800. And those are all those are all labeled,
right Chief. The county has. Yeah. We've improved them all
and they're mapped. Yeah. They're my, okay. And they're on
that map that you have on the website. Okay. I
guess I got to look it. Up. Okay. We're done
with the mayor's report. All right. Now we are on
comments by the public. You'll have a chance now and
you'll have a chance at the end of the meeting
if you'd like to come up. Please state your name.
And I guess you have to write it on a
paper. And you got five minutes for the chair's prerogative.
She's just soft spoken. Yeah. Proving your successful, my husband
says that. I'm proving your successful management of storm mitigation
and debris removal. Congratulations. I was at the recent TDC
meeting and Herb and Ben Dan and Mark. Who found,
identified the part of the, their bylaws or their charter
that says the TDC can indeed use funding to pay
for infrastructure. So herb and Dan did a great job
explaining, uh, the funding at request for funding for the
title valves. It was well done. I would like to
add a couple things to that. Yes, it's an inconvenience
to have water on the road, but I think we
all know also that it's a safety issue. Because pedestrians
and bikers have to go out into the street and
compete for space with vehicles. Mayor Brown had a question
about justification of spending TDC funds on residential streets. And
I think Commissioner Whitmore may have been, well, no, you
kind of addressed it today. We're mostly tourists. So every
street has tourists. If you, if we are using some
kind of TD's TDC funds on a residential street, it's
mostly tourists. It's going to benefit tourists. And also there
was questions about opening up a can of worms. They've
never done this before. They've never spent funding on infrastructure.
Well, so what? If they open a can of worms.
Our city has been, have been spending money for years
on infrastructure that protects the tourism. So we have, we've,
we've protected more and more tourists and fewer and fewer
residents. So thanks to the Commissioner Commissioner Dan and Herb
and Mark for finding out that those funds could be
used for that. And now for lifeguards. So great. Let's
open that can of worms. We've given them enough worms
anyway. Thank you. That was good. Thank you, Nancy. Anybody
else in the public like to make a public comment
now or would you rather wait. Okay. We closed public
comment. Um, Mayor Brown was probably flipping out because river
view boulevard. And I'm sure you all hear complaints. Have
her really have heard about all of its short -
term rentals now. Those big mansions. And now they're all
raising heck. But, uh, 2, 500 block about augmentation. If
you go down and you'll see the road dips a
little, all those homes, if the high tide are flooded,
mayor post and lived on one of them. He hasn't
been back there since the hurricane. They've all gotten destroyed
because the water's gone over the seawalls now. And you
know, that's probably what he's talking about. The can of
worms because that could help them. But they're going to
have to elevate their seawalls or something. That's how bad
it's getting. May I give a little clarity. If you.
Don't, yeah. Okay. Uh, I do it on your report.
No, just now TDC. It did not pass by the
way we deferred it to the next meeting, which is
in October. And the reason it was deferred is because
there's one little thing that Elliot missed. It says an
independent professional analysis performed at the expense of the county
tourism development council demonstrates the positive impact of the infrastructure
project on tourists related businesses in the county. Or blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. So basically it's an independent analysis.
It's not really a study. It's just an analysis. But
what this means is in Herb and I have talked
about this. If you take a picture of the trolley
stop down here in front of the public works building
when high tide, the trolley stop is flooded. The sidewalk
is flooded and the bike path is flooded. If you
take a picture with a tide valve in there at
high tide, they're not flooded. There's your analysis. So it
has to be something probably that simple. I'm not sure
what TDC is going to do between now and our
next meeting in October. But we requested 344, 500 for
this. The total, uh, project over five years is 689,
000. Install 77 tide valves, something like that. Well, it
used to be good in math. And that's all great.
I'm glad again, um, I didn't think we'd be taught,
I wasn't planning on talking about this. But as a
board member, I didn't know we were going to go
before them to request it. Or I would have done
my homework or tried to be there. To support it.
Again, TDC monies can also be used for other things.
You know, now we're doing, we're back, she got money.
You guys raised a stormwater fee. So we are doing
more tidal valves. And now where are we historically flooded
for 20 something years? It's kind of resolved in itself.
So we have to look at other things. But I
think something like that. We as a board probably should
stand united when we go to the TDC and said
that our commission's requesting this. And maybe then our attorney
could have known that we needed to do research. I
don't know. Um, the lifeguards is wonderful to hear because
Panama did it years ago. Some legislator that was in
charge up there was higher up like a president of
the Senate or whatever. He actually had an exemption for
Panama City that they could have the TDC funds would
pay for lifeguards. And they, they did it on a
formula with their population, et cetera. And that's how they
got it. We as the counties and the city supported
at Went to Tallahassee. He said, we want to do
a Panama Cities doing. They said, nope, you don't meet
that population - like Panama and you don't do this.
So that's why we never got it. But I mean,
if we're going to do something like this, maybe before
the next meeting, if we get serious, we need to
make sure if that's really what we want to spend
our money for for the valves, since we already got
a stormwater fee, and I don't know how many more
we have in the hopper, it sounds like 300, 000
more. Or is there another infrastructure thing that's related to
Taurus that could also help. But I think it poses
also budget related. And policy. So, and I'm glad you
brought it up because now all the other cities are
going to look at it. Now they're all going to
be wanting it to. Yeah. And that's not just us.
All the cities along the, all the cities along the
shoreline of Florida, because if you're going to do a
fresh, you have to do it for all. So whatever.
Okay. And now with amendment three, we may have to
be more creative with that money because of whatever happens
with what funding we don't get if it does pass.
So anyway, so, um, so yes. I heard about it
during the meeting. That we were talking about. And that's
why I thought I didn't want you to not be
successful. If you're bringing for it, say our board wants
us to look at this. But maybe in the future,
if that's what we want to use it for, we
as a board should say that. Or if we have
another project. But that's up to you guys. We're pretty
used in a being successful at TDC. Even when you
were on the board, we got turned out. I know
because a lot of stuff you asked for didn't meet
the crime. No, it did. State law. Well, you didn't
get it. I know because you didn't vote for it.
Oh, because it didn't meet the criteria. It did. The
attorney said it did years. It was unanimous at TDC.
The city attorney attorney said it did. You said you
didn't like seawalls. You wanted bike lanes or sidewalks. So
then we went for bike lanes and sidewalks and it
still got turned down. So yes, I understand. But it's
not going to make us stop trying. We're going to
continue to try. And I really commend her and Dan
for bringing it up in time for that next because
that was one of our budget items, even though we
did get, um, stormwater fee. We got a partial of
the stormwater fee increased. And I don't think you even
voted for stormwater fee. Oh, I didn't. Those only reach
our match. So, so we still have to get additional
funding for stormwater because we are really, we don't have
enough to do everything we want to do. You are
correct. I voted against it because Bill Claig, who actually
came from Orange County that when the TDC first star
or the Taurus tax first started, he recommended to us
that we could use it for your bike paths. If
we could connect it to a park, so Taurus could
say they went to the beach and then we're at
a park. And there was a problem with golf drive
that they couldn't quite make the park. And that's why
it got denied. And then another time we looked on
the seawall along here. But there was another connection we
couldn't make. So yeah, you are right on some of
that. Okay. Now can we go on to the next
thing? Are we on Unfinished Business? None. Uh, new business
authorized the mayor to execute an agreement between the City
of Homes Beach and accurate power and technology ink for
the purpose and delay purchased installation of the City Hall
Generator. I know we've talked about this before Herb. Do
you want to just give something very basics of the
public knows what's going on.
Health A. There you go. We'll do that. Way. Hopefully
this works. Awesome. So just real, real briefly, uh, follow
up to our previous conversations related to this. This is
for the replacement of the generator here at City Hall.
Just for everyone's recollection, the generator was installed in 1991.
For the last few years maintenance and generator has been
costly. And. We were able to secure a HMGP rant.
For the replacement. And it's approximately a 2575. Percent match.
Breakdown. So the city would pay 25 percent approximately. Federal
government A. And we have, we had five bidders, which
was fantastic. Unfortunately, one of the bidders had to be
deemed non - responsive. Because they did not submit a
bid bond. It still left us with four bidders. And
accurate power and technology is in accordance with our procurement.
Code. Is the. Most responsive and responsible bidder. At
the best value. And so what that amount is, this
97, 951 dollars in 17 cents. We're using our standard
contract. Nothing really different from any other types of contracts
that we execute with various contractors. Obviously the biggest schedule
for this is just going to be waiting for a
generator to be fabricated. So once this fabricated installation should
go fairly quickly. And I asked her, but if I
recall, it's just, is it just for the City Hall
here? Does it? Correct. Yeah. So it's going to be
elevated. Yeah. It's, it's going to be in the exact
same location where. The existing one is, which is elevated.
And it'll power the entire building, which includes police department.
And, you know, the call center of the 911 center,
which needs to stay open all the time for emergency
purposes. That's really good. No valuable. Any other questions, Terry.
Thanks for all the detail. We had time to really
dig into the weeds on this one. I wanted kind
of unusual that there was such a disparity. 1299 to
a locate of 68, 2006.
With this qualified contractor. Carol's already asked, can you address
the elevation issue. Reading through the material, I see that.
COLAR only offers a one - year warranty. And we
went through this post - storm. We had a whole
house, Kohler. I'd survive the storm, but about a year
for it. Kick the ball today. Seven years. Right. So.
Essentially I challenged Kohler. And they came back and said,
well, yes, it should have lasted longer. Our last lasted
35 years here. So I don't think we have a
complaint. But they offered at no additional cost. What would
be an additional cost for a 10 - year warranty.
And I wondered if you explored the possibility of having
an extended war. Do you know what that cost would
be. We not spoken with Kohler over that. Something that
we would like to call to do. Uh, since they
would be the ones making the purchase for us. So
we're not going to owner, purchase the equipment. Well, I
think, um, I know you want to get this done.
But while we're doing it before we sign the final
line, I would suggest at least determine what the cost
is. And, um, let Executive Prince and you decide whether
it's a worthy additional cost. In our case. Always on
mechanics offer the additional 10 year. If I may, mayor.
Judy. So my recommendation would be right now it would
be presumptuous of us to ask the contractor without having
them under contract. To make that ask. So I would
say that, you know, my recommendation is that we would
enter the contract with a contractor. One of the first
tacits that we would ask them to do after we
kick the project off. Is to do that research and
let us know what that cost is. And then we
could do an amendment to the contract for the difference.
That makes perfect. I have no problem with your choice.
You made the right choice, in my opinion. It's simply.
We can avoid a cost. That would be covered by
a reasonable. Correct. Maintenance extended maintenance. Correct. And, and, and
frankly, all four of the responsive bidders are, they're all
deemed responsible and responsive. You know, we could go with
any of them. However, where code is written, it's my
duty to recommend the most valuable. And I support most
affordable. My question wasn't relative to choice and recommendation. It's
simply correct. Another element. And I think you're right. Get
them under contract and then find out what the additional
cost. And you can recommend back to us for that
additional. Choosing. Perfect. And Jessica and then. Just so
out of this 97, right? So HMGP is going to
pay 75 percent of that approximately. I, I believe this
particular grant is, it's kind of an odd one where
it's like 27 point something. So at the end of
the day we'll be like paying 25, 000, like around
25, 000 probably, okay. Again, with all just like all
the other grants that we've been awarded so far, it's
a reimbursement. Yep. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to
make sure that that was end of the day. It's
going to, it should be costing us around 24. Thank
you. Yeah, just quick, Herb. I read the technical specs
and I'm a little confused. Does it include an onomatic
transfer switch built into it. Actually, we're going to use
the one that we have. Okay. Like, cause when we
have is actually relatively new. It's I think it was
installed two years ago. Like right after the storms. Okay.
Um, and that's a large ticket item. And so because
I couldn't discern whether it was included in this bid
or not. Is this got an automatic reset feature in
the inner? Right. Yes. And, uh, that was one of
the questions that bitters asked and our response after coordinating
with the building department and having our current building official
taught. I don't know if you all know, but he's
a certified master electrician. So we had him look at
everything and he was like, Oh my goodness gracious. Why
would we get rid of this thing? They're expensive. Uh,
and so, and then talking with some other folks that
also agreed with that assessment. I was right the right
way to go. And so we responded to all the
bidders, let them know that, uh, it wasn't required. And
that could be one of the reasons why there's such
a disparity in some of these costs. Some of the
higher bidders may have. Not, you know, not caught that.
Um, but they all were made aware. You know, all
through public comment, um, you know, public distribution of the
information. So because of the way the procurement goes, we
can't pick up the phone and call them and say,
Hey, don't forget that blah, blah, blah. It was all
the same way. This is not a criticism. Just a
question. In a hundred KW is satisfactory for the whole
building. Yes. Okay. No problem at all. We don't have
to keep things off. Well, I'm a civil engineer. So
I'd hate to be the person to say yes or
no for sure, but from what I've been told from
the electricals is that yes, it will power the entire
building. And all of the existing equipment with capacity for
additional things. And I believe, uh, during the hurricanes, we
were even allowing residents to charge their equipment here, uh,
and at the same time, all the other existing equipment
was being powered. Okay. Thank you. Um, are we ready
to take action on this. Any other discussion. A move
we prove. A second. Motion by Terry's second by Dan.
Any other discussion. Seeing none, um, all in favor say
aye. I think we have to make us a roster
volume. Oh yeah, I forgot. That's right. Sorry. Thank you.
Commissioner Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Olfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner
Diggins. Aye. Chair Whitmore. Thank you. Okay. Now we have
an interlocal agreement for fuel services between the city of
Holmes Beach and the City of Anna Maria. Okay. This
is the one that I authorized herb. Yeah. And to
work with Randy on. We're trying to. Work with our
other cities and do what we can to for each
other. And, um, they've been sending all of their vehicles
off island for fuel. And they understood that we have
our tanks right here. And so he asked if he
could join in and he could pay for the fuel
they use. And. Good. So we have enough capacity. So
we said yes, it's a no brainer. So this is
the Interloco Agreement for that. This is a way we
can prove to everybody that we're working with our other
cities. That's another thing we'll put on our checklist. Okay.
Any discussion on that? Any questions. Okay. Do I have
an action. Of approval. Of a second. Second. I'm emotioned
by Terry's second by Steve. Any other discussion. All in
favor say aye. Aye. Oh no. Yeah. Let's just do
it. I just said that. That's somewhere this way. Commissioner
Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Ulfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner Diggins.
Aye. Chair Whitmore. Okay. Thank you everyone. Um, now we're
on the announcements, summer turtle talks again, Monday at 10
a. m. Wednesday the second. Parks of beautification at 10.
Also Planning Commission is at 330. September 7th, the City
Hall is closed for Labor Day. On September 9th Clean
Water Ad Hot Committees is at 9 and September 9th
is the City Commission's first budget meeting with a regular
hearing with a regular meaning to follow. And that starts
at 5. 01 p. m. by law. So there won't
be a meeting on September 9th about the budget until
5 p. m. That's by law. Um, okay. Do we
have any questions and comments from the mayor. Nope. Any
from the City Commission, Terry? Just one awareness. I've been
talking to Andrew Kallel. Of setting up a meeting with
Senator Boyd. And the issue is really an opportunity to
discuss with him what he feels or achievable legislative priorities.
Every year we go before the Manatee County delegation. And
I've been doing this for seven years now, or six
in the past. This will be the seventh. And we
approve by Commission our legislative priorities with input from consul
with input from certainly since we've had good consultation
from Andrew to put together a slate of, number one,
and it'll continue. It'll be home rule. And that's something
I'd like you to think about. Carol, when you're before,
the legal women voters. And I'm glad you're there. Finds
the women's Republican club, but they feel the same way,
I think. Yeah. Just remember the impact this has on
the negative impact it has on home rule. It's an
egregious. It's an egregious stand against home rule in cities
and municipalities being able to govern their own financing. So
that triggered the thought. Let's sit down with the senator.
He's going to be the president of the Senate. Let's
try to find before we assemble our list and present
it, what he feels is truly. And it'll be his
opinion, regardless. But an opportunity to have a discussion with
him, with some of the frustrations we and many other
cities have with regard to this process. And really ever
finding any traction by any of our delegation of taking
a lead in supporting some of these, in my opinion,
uh, legitimate requests. So that, um, that will take place
probably in the next month. It'll depend on his, his
schedule. Terry, um, you're right. After Jim Boyd, uh, manatee
county and none of the cities here have any pull
in Tallahassee for quite a few years because the legislators
in the hopper to go for leadership positions. So this
is our, this is our only opportunity. And could we
at the next meeting possibly look at what our legislative
platform is and retweeted. And what we really, you know,
they only want usually, you can have 10 or 12,
but they only want to hear three. I've learned that
through all my years going up for 16 years up
there. They'll take your top three. So is there any
way that we could like have a, I know we
don't do work sessions. We do at our next meeting,
we can look at our, our platform and look at
and see if the change in it. And since this
is the only year he's here, I encourage everybody. And
I remember, I don't know if you had guys remember
Mike Bennett. When he was a senator. And we would
go up there and one year, only a couple of
us went up there in the county. And he goes,
why would I even give you guys millions of dollars
when you won't spend the money to come up and
ask me for it. So when he told us that,
that's why you see such a big constituent in town
doing it. Because they're always surprised that they have that
much support. And I would recommend strongly, I don't know
when the next session, I know they have like a
day where you meet your legislators. I'm not sure. We've
got a couple of days before it. But maybe we
should go up as a, and you have to vote
on it ahead of time. So the sunshine issues. And
you can go up and push them on things we
really want. This is a process that we've always followed
in response to your question. I think it's a little
premature now because these presentations don't occur until. March. After
the first of the year. Usually January. But it's, I
mean, to get our homework done or studies, the money's
attached. What suggestions we bring back this year's priorities. My
next step was to ask each of you to give
that some individual thought make suggestions because the end product
is a result of consensus on behalf of the commission
of what not only our legislative priorities are, but the
priorities and how we list them. That's exactly what I
meant. Our platform have now look at it and see
what we want. And maybe put stuff with it. Yeah.
So we can plead our case because again, Jim's next
year. And then we don't get any benefit. Marina, could
you remember to just include this year's as a reminder
to everyone and we can have a discussion item on
that. Do we want to put it on an agenda
then just to go over it at the next meeting?
I don't want to go for early. It's far too
early to really decide, but if you want to look
at it, just to look at it. And then if
anybody has ideas and they can bring it to another
meeting. Yes. And that's fine to have that discussion in
my opinion before I have the discussion with senate. Right.
Right. Okay. Right. Everybody okay. If you have any projects
that you think once you look at our gender when
they send it out with our platform is I've also
talked to ask Chad for his opinion on whatever he
sees, um, with regard to development and the curls that
are on state control that we've lost authority on to
determine whether he is any suggestions for our consideration. Years
ago I was put on that organization that reviewed us
about our consolidating when the legislators were threatened us, what's
it called? Opega. I was put on years ago. And,
um, we came up with a recommendation, Opega did all
the research. But cities have to do two readings for
ordinances. But all the 57 counties don't. They only have
to do one reading. And they were trying to look
at ways to for government to be more efficient and
we brought that to the legislators like, why do cities
have to do too when counties only have to do
one. But it never went anywhere if the legislator. But
that's the kind of stuff that we could, you know,
with this stuff and moment three and all this stuff.
You may want to look at it. Yeah. Okay. Um,
thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. Steve. No?
Yes. No, thank you. Yeah. No, nothing for me, mayor.
I know. Okay. The city attorney. And we have questions
or comments from the staff. Chief. Updates for y'all. My
usual stats here. Since Helene, we're almost up to 5,
000 permits issued. 1, 500 and 41 this year alone.
Plan reviews. We're over 14, 000 total inspections wherever 19,
000. We have 104 demo permits now. Um, I think
last time we reported, we were at night. I heard
four what? Demo permits. We have 39 of those have
applied for new single family homes. So we've got a
backlog of, we have 39 that have applied for new
homes. And we received 104 demo permits. How many of
those are in R1 and how many are in R2.
I don't know that. Breakdown. I'm not sure the breakdown.
If you could work that out sometime, I think that'd
be helpful for us to know. It kind of gives
us an idea. What kind of rentals we're going to
get. Out. Of. Uh, we now have six homes that
are utilizing the elevate Florida program. The last time we
reported there were three. The additional, uh, HPMG funding. Is
additional units. And we have 151 active turtlenes. It's impressive.
And 1611 vacation on the certificates. Chief? I'll just give
you one first two weeks of school. We've had 55
people that have exceeded the speed. And I believe nine
of them are island residents. Questomount now. We did have.
I don't know if y'all saw it on Facebook, but
we did have them publicly. Was my name Jessica. Jessica,
did you get one? No. No. Oh, no. But we
did have one person last Wednesday that came out in
the morning and was doing 31 miles an hour. And
then as he left the island in the afternoon, he
was doing 28. So he was given two tickets in
one day, uh, speeding in the school zone. Crazy. And
he received the citation in January of this year. So
he should have known. Okay. You won't get a Christmas
card for him. I've been, I'll open it up for
public comment one more time. Everybody wants to come up.
You got five minutes to talk about anything. And I
apologize for my voice. I've known of two people are
actually in the hospital with COVID. So I tested myself
before I came here. I just got a cold. Okay.
With that, this meeting's adjourned at 3. 30. Thank you.