[0:22] Calling this media to order its 2 p. m. August
[0:27] 25th and welcome everyone. We're going to stand for the
[0:31] Pledge of Allegiance and then a moment of silence.
[0:59] See that. Okay, now we'll have roll call. Commissioner Schaefer.
[1:06] Commissioner Elfke Commissioner Patel. Present Commissioner Diggins, Chair Whitmore. Okay,
[1:14] now. Item number three, approval of minutes for the 3A
[1:18] and 3B budget work session in the regular meeting. Would
[1:22] anybody like to make a motion? Or does anybody have
[1:25] any corrections before we do? Any corrections, anybody? And here
[1:30] I would move approval submitted of both. My second, both,
[1:34] I don't see any need to change anything. Okay, so
[1:37] we have a motion of second, any other discussion. All
[1:40] in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries, thank you. Okay,
[1:44] now we'll do commission reports. Let's start at the end,
[1:47] Terry. Okay, thanks Carol. Something kind of unusual came across
[1:55] the screen, and I thought it was relevant to know,
[1:59] and it was an article originally that. Appeared in the
[2:03] Wall Street Journal and then covered by Apple News, and
[2:07] it had to do with a city surfside beach in
[2:10] South Carolina. And it kind of struck a nerve in
[2:13] that this city had engaged in a contract with a
[2:17] local contractor. The work had been done, and it was
[2:19] time for payment, and there had been communication. Between the
[2:24] public works director and the contractor. Well, that was all
[2:29] well and fine, and they were working out the details
[2:32] of final payment. So what occurred that caught my attention
[2:38] and brought it to my attention into Julie's was what
[2:43] kind of coverage do we have for cyber fraud. In
[2:48] that what occurred was through fishing. And it very crafty
[2:53] individual picked up on those emails between contractor and city
[3:00] and sent and made a very minor modification that the
[3:03] Most Highs would not have detected. Sending instructions to wire
[3:07] transfer the 545, 598 dollars in 30 cents. To an
[3:14] account that had nothing to do with the legitimate contract.
[3:18] So what resulted was just out of curiosity, I mean,
[3:24] normally this is covered in amendment A coverage in a
[3:29] general bond. Or through Arizona. So I sent the article
[3:35] to Julie. Julie did the research with our insurer. And
[3:39] to everyone's, I think, approval and appreciation. We do have
[3:44] that coverage. In fact, in place that would prevent it,
[3:48] could it have been detected perhaps there wasn't as much
[3:53] detail in the scrutiny of the request for payment, but
[3:57] nonetheless, the important part is for us. To insurance. It's
[4:04] called Fidelity Insurance. And I spent a couple years doing
[4:09] that before my banking career, and that's why the article
[4:13] caught my eye the first time. So the good news
[4:16] is we have coverage, should it ever occur to us,
[4:20] but it's in place. And we are protected. The other
[4:28] item I wanted to refer to is amendment three, and
[4:32] just disclose I've had some conversations with Randy and with
[4:38] Judy regarding the city, taking a position opposing amendment three.
[4:47] And I think after a lot of thought I have
[4:51] questioned the League of Cities to determine whether they're aware
[4:55] of any cities elsewhere in the state that have approved
[5:01] either by consensus or by resolution and opposition, that we've
[5:08] played phone tag back and forth with them. So I
[5:12] don't know that that's the case. But at this point
[5:14] in time, I don't think it's the time to take
[5:16] a position. And I think I will be writing an
[5:21] article. Personally. Which we're entitled to do because no dollars
[5:26] are expended on behalf of the city to state, at
[5:30] least my opinion, of the subject. And I would encourage
[5:33] other members to give that some thought and decide what
[5:37] they believe is the best position for them to take.
[5:41] Terry, that's a good idea. I know Joe McClash used
[5:45] to do that quite a bit, at the end he
[5:47] would sign his name and say me as a personal
[5:50] commissioner. Right. So yeah, that would be great. Though. Okay.
[5:55] Well, I encourage others to give that some thought as
[5:58] well, because I do think. The reason I thought it
[6:02] was important is. I think it would be helpful for
[6:06] our constituency to know where we stand. And we don't
[6:09] speak for the Commission. We'll be speaking for ourselves individually
[6:14] on the subject, and that it's going to be, I
[6:17] think, a pretty controversial issue. And I've tried to keep
[6:20] up with the commentary on primarily next door and others.
[6:26] And it's pretty evenly distributed between those who favor and
[6:30] those who oppose at this point in time, and we'll
[6:34] get into the facts in our own letters. Next subject
[6:38] is the police pension board. And I direct you two,
[6:45] it's in your packet in section four. The reports speak
[6:51] for themselves for both the past police pension board meeting,
[6:56] which was way back on July 15th. But in your
[7:00] packet, if you'd go to section four, I'm going to
[7:04] do something. This time that I haven't done before. I've
[7:09] offered the full report to any who want to see
[7:12] it, but there's two, I think, salient pages that are
[7:16] kind of summary. In nature. And that, again, this is
[7:23] a 16 million dollar line item that does not appear.
[7:26] On our financial statements. It's exclusively for the benefit of
[7:32] future retirement benefits for a police officer. So it's not
[7:36] on our financial statements as a city and municipality. So
[7:40] the first page, you see the pie charts. Is everybody
[7:43] there? It's in section four. I'll wait till you get
[7:48] there. So it went up a million and a half
[7:56] in value. In three months. I'll get to that. I
[8:02] need to know that investment guy. We're pretty well. The
[8:07] fund is very, very well advised by legal and administrative
[8:13] and certainly management. So the first page where the pie
[8:17] charts is simply a comparison over on the left of
[8:21] where the fund was in dollars and the pie chart
[8:24] gets down to which segments, those segments are delineated. On
[8:30] the bottom line items to tell you what those segments
[8:33] are of the entire portfolio. As Dana said, three months
[8:40] later, the latest report, June 30. So this represents three
[8:45] quarters of the physical year since September 30 is the
[8:50] physical year for us and certainly the fun. So yes,
[8:53] an increase from 14, 00789 to 16, 0122. More importantly,
[9:00] is a breakdown on the next page. Numbered at the
[9:03] bottom, page 22 of 119. And it'll give you kind
[9:07] of a reiteration in the first column. It gives you
[9:11] the line items or where the money is invested. In
[9:14] the totals. The net transfers, meaning interfund transfers, not new
[9:20] money, but buys and cells, where the money. What was
[9:25] sold and what was reinvested. Most importantly, contributions. The third
[9:30] column, you can see the 241, 000, 936 is the
[9:34] total dollars. From three sources primarily the city's contribution, but
[9:39] also police officers contribute six percent of their salary to
[9:45] this fund and the state. Offers some assistance. It had
[9:51] been averaging about Julie's not here, but Judy, you might
[9:55] remember about 46, under 50 for many, many years this
[10:00] year, I think. It bumped up to 62 or 63,
[10:04] 000 from the state. Part of which goes to the
[10:08] fund. So, um, the others are distributions, meaning through the
[10:15] first nine months of the year, 150, 000, 205 have
[10:19] been paid out to our former officers, management fees, in
[10:23] total, uh, that would include all sources. Including legal. So
[10:29] the cost of the very highly qualified, I believe, advisors
[10:35] of this fund. Is really pretty minimal when you're considering
[10:39] a 16 million dollar fund. Other expenses for 38, 000,
[10:45] that could be a myriad of expenses allowed by. And
[10:48] these are all paid out of the funds, not in
[10:50] addition to the city. Um, Advilum tax. And then return
[10:56] on investments, you can see obviously amounted for a million
[11:01] two hundred eighty three thousand of that pretty substantial increase.
[11:05] And we were just the beneficiary of a rising tide
[11:08] and market. And in my opinion, a very well -
[11:12] managed fund, again, ending with a total balance. Again, we're
[11:18] almost three months, at least two months. Uh, away from
[11:22] this. So at the time at June 30, again, the
[11:26] 16, 122, 000 dollar fund balance then. So I just
[11:31] thought it just fried a little extra time. I know
[11:35] not many want to take the entire report and read
[11:37] it. Uh, we do go over at every meeting. And
[11:40] I would encourage other members. Really get, again, it's not
[11:46] part of budgeting. It's not our responsibility. And we are
[11:50] told by the actuary what we have to. So it's
[11:53] not a discretionary issue when it comes to our budget.
[11:57] The actuary determines based on five year, uh, five year
[12:01] planning. And the good news is we have been on
[12:06] the higher side of our contributions. They have been raising
[12:09] and they did again for this current year, but it
[12:12] looks like, and we are hearing from the actuary that
[12:15] the trend line is going to be down. Uh, or
[12:17] the next five years because of, uh, operating results. So
[12:23] again, it's City funds, but earmark exclusively for our police
[12:32] officers'retirement, which has been, I think, a key. I think
[12:37] Chief, I've heard him say, I'm sure he'd repeat, one
[12:41] of the key elements in recruiting and retaining the best
[12:44] officers. Are available at the time when additions are replacements
[12:48] have to be made. Any questions on that. Yeah, Terry,
[12:56] does management fee item? Does that include both the legal
[13:00] and the investment part? Yes. That's pretty reasonable. Yeah. You
[13:06] know, I attended a couple of those meetings with you.
[13:09] Pretty impressive. I think it'd be good to continue attending
[13:12] this, Dan. Thank you, Tarek. You know. Okay. Um, Steve,
[13:19] do you have any? Well, I've got, I've got just
[13:21] a couple more things here. I'll definitely, May. And again,
[13:23] the Clean Water Committee, I don't want to, um, I
[13:27] don't really have any additional comments. But the Clean Water
[13:31] Committee from the last meeting, they meet again. Um, I
[13:35] think September, uh, 11. And then I hope everybody read
[13:43] it. Mark Church was interviewed. And I really appreciate and
[13:49] respect the honesty and his outing for, um, starm cleanup.
[13:57] He was very, uh, honest in his assessment of their
[14:01] city. And, uh, and I think I hope those who
[14:06] are somewhat critical of our city two years ago read
[14:11] that. Although we took some hits because we weren't as
[14:16] quick to respond. And so we got, um, our feed
[14:20] under us and knew we were a hundred percent in
[14:23] compliance with FEMA. But it's going to result in, I
[14:26] believe. And again, I didn't get a chance to ask
[14:28] Julie. I think Judy, you may know, I think we're
[14:31] going to recover either 97 or 98 percent. Of our
[14:35] full cost of restoration costs by virtue of the path
[14:40] we took. To get the work done. And it wasn't
[14:46] just for the debris removal. You know, we kept our
[14:49] state of emergency open so we can continue even over
[14:53] time of staff. And we had to use subcontractor. What's
[15:01] his name? Joe Payne. Yeah, we had third party inspectors.
[15:05] We're getting reimbursed for everything that it cost us to
[15:08] recover. So yeah, and I commend staff, all the training,
[15:15] it helped. And they were there and they were committed
[15:17] and everything was documented. So it really helped home speech.
[15:21] It did. Again, I really appreciate Mark's approach to this
[15:25] of taking the bull by the horns and earning from
[15:28] it and going forward. I think it indication of his
[15:31] honesty and value to their community. Yeah, Mark's doing a
[15:34] great job. And Mayor, from what I read too, they
[15:38] weren't, well, we always heard that they were not going
[15:41] to be compliant because they didn't go through the vendors,
[15:45] like the approved vendors. And is that kind of what
[15:47] I was reading that there's still a shortfall and they're
[15:50] not sure how they're going to get it because of
[15:51] that. They did not have pre - awarded contracts. They
[15:55] use local guys to remove their debris. And they also
[16:00] did not have the monitoring company, which is the other
[16:03] thing you have to have pre - awarded. You have
[16:04] to document where the trash came from where the debris
[16:08] came from to make sure it actually came from your
[16:10] city. So they had to follow the trucks. That's why
[16:13] you had different people sitting everywhere throughout the city as
[16:17] they were monitoring every truck, every truck had to be
[16:19] pre - weighed. It had to have a number on
[16:21] it. Everything was tracked. So, I mean, the paperwork is
[16:26] incredible in order to get rid of this from FEMA.
[16:29] And they also did not have a DEP approved debris
[16:34] site. We always kept ours. We've always had the approaches.
[16:40] We've always kept it. Um, up to date. And they
[16:42] just used bayfront park and it was not. I mean,
[16:47] it was. We knew we did it right. I hoped
[16:51] they were going to get reimbursed because their sister City.
[16:54] But yeah, that was pretty hard. Can you explain why
[16:59] we had to dump it here and then move it
[17:02] a second time? Is that part? Because the landfill was
[17:07] an hour and a half away. And for the truck
[17:10] to fill up and then take an hour and a
[17:13] half trip and wait in line to dump, it would
[17:17] have taken forever to get it off the streets. So
[17:20] you do a debris field so they can take short
[17:23] trips, get it out of the people's neighborhoods, dump it
[17:25] here. And then they crush it and it's less trucks
[17:29] going to the landfill. So there was a logical reason.
[17:32] There's an all science behind it. If smaller storms and
[17:36] if it's mainly just branches and things will, you know,
[17:41] you can maybe take the time to, um, drive it.
[17:44] But the bigger storms you tend to open up a
[17:46] degree. Site. Thank you. Years ago when we dredged all
[17:51] the canals in the city, we did the same. With
[17:54] the ball field. We dewatered it. Cause then that then
[17:58] it went to the landfill. They didn't charge us for
[18:00] any dumping fees. But we let it sit for a
[18:03] while. I think you have to all the time, don't
[18:05] you know? No, they do it in bags. Oh, they
[18:07] do. Oh, okay. That's new. Okay. Yeah. I feel bad.
[18:12] Um, you know, Mayor's short inherited what the actions were
[18:18] in the past. But you know, everybody was trying to
[18:21] do what they could do. And we just hope that
[18:23] they can get some money back. I'm sure we all
[18:25] feel that way. Right. I think our patients paid off.
[18:28] Right. Yeah. That's all I have, Carol. Thank you. Steve.
[18:32] Yeah. Um, so next week waste pro is going to
[18:35] be kind of auditing around the city, um, cans that
[18:41] are supposed to be side door service, making sure that
[18:43] that's all still accurate. Um, if there are any concerns
[18:46] about side door service, um, JT asked for people to
[18:51] reach out to code compliance so they can get involved.
[18:54] Um, they're also code compliance JT's team is going to
[18:58] be focusing on, um, house numbers and addresses. They really
[19:03] need to get everybody, you know. Properly identified for safety.
[19:09] First responders and for even for making sure even with
[19:13] Waze Pro and making sure they have the right. House
[19:17] for the right services of Worth. Um. They also, um,
[19:23] came up with the new. Signs for, and I was
[19:28] just given this. Maybe you might be able to help.
[19:31] Make sure I'm correct with this. For the beach ends.
[19:35] They're going to be wrapping the trash can. So I
[19:37] think this may be on the trash. Is it a
[19:40] wrap or is it just a sticker? Might be just
[19:42] a sticker. I think the trash cans are going to
[19:44] be identified by a new color. They're going to be
[19:47] brown with a blue top. And those are going to
[19:49] be specific to the beach ends. So they know which
[19:52] ones are theirs. Um, and then those are going to
[19:54] be stickers that go on them. Unplastic your life.
[20:06] And then this is a cool Bigfoot one that says,
[20:09] leave no trace. Another good message. That resonates with the
[20:15] current popularity of Bigfoot these days, I guess. Um. I
[20:20] love Bigfoot. Yeah. And I did ask JT and I
[20:24] ended up communicate with Jason about the sea turtle disorientation.
[20:29] Originally, I thought it was Holmes Beach because I think
[20:31] they put it in the press of his home speech,
[20:32] but it was actually in Bradenton Beach. Um, so glad
[20:36] you brought that up. I was really surprised to see.
[20:40] Yeah. No. And basically they said of the hundred and
[20:44] so many, um, disoriented hatchlings found only five have been
[20:49] in home speech. Um, so, and because I thought about
[20:52] Jason when I heard that, I knew that that was
[20:54] really close to his, you know, heart and to put
[20:58] a lot of, and puts a lot of work into,
[21:00] um, staying in touch with Kristen with turtle watch and
[21:05] spending, you know, he and Alison go out and monitor
[21:08] the beach. And do what they can. Uh, he did
[21:11] indicate that they are working towards, um, working with FPL
[21:14] to try to get them to put more amber colored
[21:18] street lights for the LEDs that are up. It's just
[21:20] very costly. So they're kind of working through that and
[21:23] mentioned something about. I think they're tried to, maybe FBL
[21:26] was doing it. It's trying to get a grants. To
[21:28] help with the fun. They're cause difference. They can even
[21:32] more amber lights closer to the beach. Um, that's all
[21:36] I had. Thank. You. Yes. Um, I went to the
[21:42] Anna Maria Commission meeting last week. And they talked about
[21:46] side door service. Now they have waste probes well. And
[21:49] the service. They were working on an ordinance that said
[21:53] cans have to be placed at least 20 feet. Some
[21:57] number. On the road or in an enclosed area. Do
[22:02] we have anything like that? Yes. We do. And that's
[22:04] some of the auditing that they're going to be going
[22:06] out. Because if people and leaving hangers, they warn people
[22:10] if they believe, if you know, yes, you have to
[22:12] bring your cans in. And part of the service that
[22:16] they're supposed to break. That's side door service. You know,
[22:19] that's just, if you're paying extra for side door service,
[22:21] then that would be bad. Yeah. No, yes. Cydoor service,
[22:25] the ways pro. So if that's kind of the, I
[22:27] think the example that JT was giving is if you
[22:29] feel like your cans aren't being brought all the way
[22:31] back and should be, then get a hold of compliance
[22:34] because they'll go out and do it and make sure
[22:36] it stays compliant and work with waste pro to make
[22:38] sure they get it correct in their system. Had, uh,
[22:45] had a guy or duffey's. She lives on South Harbor
[22:49] by the church. And they've been trying for months and
[22:52] months and months to get the trash out of their
[22:56] front yard. I mean, the new cans, the people in
[22:59] the house next would just leave it out there. And
[23:02] finally, um, JT went and sure enough, I don't even
[23:05] think the people were paying for the side service, which
[23:09] they're supposed to if it's a short term rental. Right.
[23:11] I thought that's our law, our ordinance. You can't treat.
[23:16] Them different than anybody. Else. But most of them do.
[23:20] So I thought they had to. Okay. So anyway, I
[23:23] think it was taken care of. But he took care
[23:24] of it right away. And it's hard to make sometimes
[23:29] the guy's, you know, when they get mad, watch out.
[23:32] If you ever been to Duffy's, you know. Okay, Jessica.
[23:37] The only thing I have from the center is that
[23:39] the Greg Le Pensi Bowling tournament is coming up. Saturday,
[23:43] September 12th, 2026 at Bolero on Cortez Road. It starts
[23:48] at six. You can call up the center to buy
[23:50] your lanes or tickets for the event. Team Custom Contest,
[23:55] Silent Option, 50 - 50 raffle, all those good things.
[23:58] So reach out to the center if you're interested in
[24:00] going to the Le Pensi Bowling channel. And it's for
[24:05] the island, the Community Center, but I've been going for
[24:08] at least 10 years every year. And it's a major
[24:11] island citizens. They all get together. You don't have to
[24:15] bowl. They have all kinds of prizes you can buy
[24:18] tickets and stuff. I've never bowled. I've gotten there and
[24:20] said hi to all my friends. So. Yeah, it's really,
[24:24] you don't have to, and you can buy lottery tickets
[24:26] and everything just like everybody else for all the gift
[24:28] baskets. But it's a, it's a center fundraiser. You don't
[24:32] have to bowl. Yeah. I usually don't bowl. It's usually
[24:34] just like a fun event where you just come out
[24:36] everybody from the island and raise money and, you know,
[24:40] put your little raffle tickets in and do the auctions
[24:42] and that kind of stuff. That at the alley on
[24:44] Cortez. Yeah. Yep. Whatever. September. 12th. No. Recently.
[24:54] Just. The other day. We have a new sign. Different
[24:58] name. It's called something strike or something. Like that. Lucky
[25:02] strike. Yeah. Oh, well actually that's better than the other
[25:05] name. I never could remember that. It was just earlier
[25:07] this week or so. Oh. Maybe it was earlier. Today's
[25:11] Tuesday, right? Yeah. It was last week. Well, there you
[25:13] go. Well then lucky strike then. Formally. Yeah. The bowling
[25:18] alley on Cortez. Yeah, that was not supposed to be
[25:20] funny. Applebee's hasn't changed his name right across from Applebee's.
[25:26] Is that it? That's it. Dan. Dog Parks doing wonderful.
[25:30] Thank you, Herb. And mother nature's helping with natural rainfall.
[25:35] Uh, it looks great. And it's fully open now, I
[25:37] think, right? The Big Dogs don't seem to be tearing
[25:42] it up. Too bad. So. I know give him time.
[25:46] It's the, um, wait till season. It's the winter season
[25:49] when it's dormant. That's when that tends to get. A
[25:56] Herb. I took a look at the 56th Street project
[25:58] the other day. You know, you see pictures and you
[26:02] get briefings and you don't really understand it to you.
[26:06] You actually put dry balls on it. I climb down
[26:08] in the hole and watch what they were doing down
[26:09] there. Are you covered under our comp? Holy, all I
[26:14] can say. They were rerouting a water main around. These
[26:18] guys were in the trenches with ratchets and wrenches. And
[26:22] screwing this thing together. It's pretty complex. And the pipe
[26:25] that's going in case you want to the size of
[26:27] the pipe. It's big at the end. What is it
[26:30] like a 12 or 24 inch? It's 48 inch. Oh
[26:33] 48. And that's for stormwater, right. The one you're putting
[26:36] is for stormwater. And tide valves and I always had
[26:39] my mind valve is about this big. Oh boy. Was
[26:42] I wrong. Um. I crawled down in a hole and
[26:46] a guy was in the outflow. You actually crawled and
[26:49] he was a pretty good sized guy. He actually crawled
[26:51] inside the outflow himself. And he's in there install the
[26:56] tide valve. And he's his whole body is in there.
[26:59] So the outflow is about this big. So if you
[27:04] really were wondering what we're paying all the stormwater fees
[27:08] for. Just take a look at that. I was really
[27:10] impressed. The herb does this all the time, but I
[27:13] was shocked at the size and the scale. So thank
[27:17] you for what you do. Yeah. And it's been rough
[27:19] on that neighborhood, but I'll be since Judy was born
[27:26] even. I mean, it's been those small pipes underneath. So
[27:30] finally, we're getting something done. And hopefully it'll help our
[27:32] chronic problems that we've had over there forever. So, and
[27:36] I did notice that first time 20 years, maybe longer.
[27:42] Major rain has come and I've driven by the, I
[27:45] call the gas station here. The auto repair. The shopping
[27:51] center, home street shopping center. And in front of here,
[27:54] first time I've ever been able to drive with no
[27:56] major flooding at all. This is before this closed down.
[27:59] So it's working. And I mean, I was, I mean,
[28:03] that's one thing I noticed. It was a major reign
[28:05] and I was able to drive like within 20 minutes.
[28:08] And it was. So good job. Okay. The only thing
[28:11] I have to report is I'm speaking on behalf. I
[28:16] guess myself at the Women's Republican Party about amendment three.
[28:20] I still got to do a lot of my research.
[28:22] I guess Marianne Barnaby is going to be, they want
[28:24] to talk about what the cities think about it. I
[28:26] really don't have any, um, opinion out of one way
[28:29] or the other. Whatever the citizens decides we're going to
[28:32] have to deal with. But I want to research on
[28:34] it. And not try to sway either way, you know,
[28:37] just try to speak of the facts. Um, pace. Pace
[28:41] called me yesterday somebody from Tallahassee. And I refer them
[28:45] to the mayor and to Chad. Um, it's that program.
[28:50] Have you ever heard it? And I forgot Glenn Javelina
[28:52] tried years to get the county to do it. And
[28:55] it's a program. And they're thinking of the aisle in
[28:58] the barrier islands after all these storms. It's a way
[29:00] you can fund to make your house more resilient. And
[29:05] actually what I understood the county didn't have anything. Just,
[29:08] they just said it was okay. And that's what they
[29:12] asked the cities to be able to allow these people
[29:14] funding to be able to do that if they wanted.
[29:16] I told them I think we have like six or
[29:18] seven houses that are elevating now. But I told them
[29:21] to talk to you to guys and he's going to
[29:22] call and see if you guys are, if we're interested
[29:25] and then you can bring it before the board because
[29:27] the board has to approve it. Yeah. Actually sent me
[29:31] an email. 10 minutes before the meeting. So I reached
[29:34] out. He sent a pamphlet. And as soon as I
[29:36] have a chance to digest it, I'll get with a
[29:39] mayor and we'll set something up. Good. Okay. I'd heard
[29:42] about it. And then I didn't realize that it had
[29:44] already been in the county so good. Um, I stopped
[29:48] by here leaving after getting my mail and I, the
[29:50] turtle talk was here the other day. And it was
[29:53] so cool some mothers brought their kids. And which I
[29:56] did know, and I love science, uh, the turtles with
[30:00] shells. They have all of these little critters that are
[30:02] on their shelves that travel all over. And the critters
[30:04] get off and they kind of just do our ecosystem.
[30:07] I thought it was really cool. Um, everybody seemed to
[30:10] really enjoy. And the two ladies speak and did a
[30:14] really good job. And I know you guys have been
[30:16] to them. So and I think it's every Monday. They
[30:19] failed the chamber every Monday. Yeah. Yeah. And I like
[30:22] that they were bringing kids. So. And the last thing
[30:25] I did the infamous e - bike tour on the
[30:29] island last Sunday didn't fall. But I wanted to show
[30:33] my friends, the city, and we all started. We started
[30:36] Anne Brandon worked our way down. We went to the
[30:37] public beach for lunch and everything. And just got to
[30:41] look around in all the back roads and stuff. I
[30:45] got a lowrider one, you know, and I went slow
[30:48] because I, you know, I'm nervous about them too, but
[30:51] it was a good experience. And it was fun. Of
[30:55] course. Yeah. I'm the one that found that kid on
[30:58] Manity Avenue that had the head injury. Um, speaking of
[31:01] that, um, when all this stuff is done on 56th
[31:05] Street where the home speech post office is a marina
[31:10] drive, well, that's four way stop, go away. They are
[31:14] two way, it was four way now. Okay, good. We're
[31:21] directing everyone down Holmes'boulevard and the people that are on
[31:24] Gulf Drive were not allowing people to come so we've
[31:27] made it a four - way stop. So it's just
[31:31] safer. It only broke the lie. I drove through it
[31:34] the other day and I realized it. Tickets in the
[31:37] mail. You didn't catch me. You didn't have your camera
[31:40] there. So, and that's all I have. Um, okay. Mayor,
[31:44] do you have a report. Okay. Well, I enjoyed my
[31:51] almost three weeks away at the Keys. The water was
[31:54] crystal clear and there was plenty of lobsters. We had
[31:57] a lot of fun with the family. Recently though, we
[32:01] did just have a meeting with the county folks. We
[32:03] do that every year. Charlie Bishop and their staff come
[32:07] and they go through anything they can do for us.
[32:12] Anything we can do for them. Um, these last two
[32:16] years. When was our last election that we got rid
[32:21] of some. Relationships have been amazing. Tao's awesome. Charlie's been
[32:30] really great. The staff is there. There's just been really
[32:34] great with home speech. Um, we had several topics we
[32:37] talked about. First was beach patrol. Uh, I told them,
[32:42] remember we still had an extra 25, 000 hopes for
[32:45] this year. Increasing our beach patrol money. Um, they, they
[32:51] were hoping that. Being that TDC can now fund lifeguards
[32:57] that might be able to get some of the lifeguard
[32:59] funding available for beach patrol, but that hasn't happened yet.
[33:04] They have not brought that up in front of TDC
[33:07] to do that funding. So they're still short money. So
[33:11] they cannot promise anything. They're still going to see what
[33:14] they can do. But it doesn't look promising for this
[33:18] year, nor does it look promising for any increase next
[33:22] year because they still want to implement consideration for implementing,
[33:31] um, paid beach parking. Which and also the boat ramps.
[33:37] And they want to use that funding source. For Beach
[33:41] Patrol. And I said, well, we can't wait. They don't
[33:43] want, they don't want to do, they didn't want to
[33:45] talk about it this year because election season and they
[33:49] know that's going to cause some anxiety. Um, as soon
[33:54] as you talk about paid Park, you get beaches. So.
[33:58] We don't know what we're going to do about getting
[33:59] any additional funding. I told them every year you don't
[34:02] increase it. You're actually defunding us because salaries continue to
[34:06] go up. Costs continue to go up gas continues to
[34:09] go up. They're aware of that. But right now everybody
[34:12] knows the county's a little tight on funding too. And
[34:15] especially with this, um, potential increase of homestead exemption. If
[34:23] it goes to referendum, they're going to be looking everywhere
[34:26] that we're going to be looking for funding to health
[34:29] offset that. Um, so beach patrol is still an unknown.
[34:35] Kingfish boat ramp, commercial rentals. We talked about the concerns
[34:39] we have. I don't know if you all have noticed,
[34:42] but the lot more vehicles, not vehicle trailer, but a
[34:45] lot of just vehicles. Taking up the parking at kingfish.
[34:50] And what that is, we've always had local captains fishermen
[34:56] picking up people there. But now we've got boat rental
[35:00] companies moving in. And they're the pontoon boats that can
[35:03] carry, you know, one, two families. So they've added to
[35:07] the parking, even though it's a commercial use. It's not
[35:12] allowed. We have to catch them. And we have to
[35:16] be there watching them, you know, citing them. So right
[35:20] now. One time I was leaving. I don't know how
[35:24] many cars there was parked on the other sea. And
[35:26] they were just pulled in like a diagonal, which is
[35:29] against the law. If you're going to park there, it
[35:31] has to be parallel with the blow traffic. So they
[35:34] all got tickets. Chief said he went out and took
[35:37] it them all. So now they're parking. It's parallel. But
[35:45] it's a state road. They're really not supposed to be
[35:48] there anyway. So we were watching, your chief was through,
[35:53] he had some videos where people with young kids were
[35:58] parking there to come to a rental boat. And they
[36:01] were racing across Manatee Avenue. Between cars, and we're going,
[36:06] if we continue to look the other way and someone
[36:09] gets hit because we're not enforcing state laws, if you're
[36:13] not allowed to park on right away zone state roads,
[36:17] are we going to be liable? Not just liable, but
[36:20] it's not saved. So we've been, we talked with Randy.
[36:25] We talked with the county folks about it. And they
[36:28] said, yeah, we really, the state really should put the
[36:31] signs up. They were putting them up during COVID and
[36:35] we said, don't do it. You know, that's just bad
[36:37] timing. People need to get out in their boats. You
[36:40] know, we have no objection if boats and your cars,
[36:45] you know, trucks and trailers are parked there because there
[36:47] was limited parking. At the boat ramp at that time.
[36:51] But now it looks because it's turned into be a
[36:56] more commercialized use. And the fact that now we're getting
[37:00] vehicles, not just trucks and trailers, we might have to
[37:04] go ahead and reach out to the state. So I
[37:06] think the county was going to do that for us.
[37:08] I already did it. You did? I sent them videos
[37:11] showing the people leapfrogging between cars with kids and coolers.
[37:17] And they were not happy. And they said that they
[37:19] would get back with me. But they're going to take
[37:21] action. I suspect that they'll put up the signs of
[37:24] no parking on the right way over there. Can I
[37:28] ask a question? Because I was, I was around when,
[37:31] when, um, the city didn't want, I mean, we all
[37:35] know what we got to concern that people were parking
[37:39] across the street. And it was just around after COVID.
[37:44] So Sherry had this told the state and all of
[37:46] a sudden they put the signs up. We didn't even
[37:47] know they were going to do that. And they said,
[37:49] no parking. Then our city here said, no, we don't
[37:52] want to do that because the charters, they use them
[37:55] for their guests to come and then they would walk
[37:57] across the street. So the county called the state back
[38:02] and they took them away. So Scott Moore called me
[38:05] when this was in the paper, I think, with the
[38:08] pontoons. We all saw it in the paper. He goes,
[38:11] and he goes, I'm telling people, they just better be
[38:12] careful what they're asking for because that includes charters too.
[38:16] And like Scott Morn, people like that make a business
[38:19] picking up people and leaving. And yeah, I don't like
[38:23] the tourists going up and running a pontoon and having
[38:27] 12 people on it. But it's still the same thing.
[38:29] It's a commercial business. And I think there was enough
[38:31] parking when it was just a charter. It's once upon.
[38:36] Then you noticed. And the jet ski guy. Well, then
[38:39] you noticed now we don't have enough vehicle parking. So
[38:45] they're ruin it for everybody. And so I told Charlie,
[38:47] I said, when you're laying in bed in the middle
[38:51] of the night with your eyes wide open like I
[38:53] do. And it's like, can you see if how we
[38:57] can solve this issue with charter fishermen? Because it's not
[39:03] right that they've been pushed out of living here on
[39:06] the island because the resort, everybody saw the Christmas tree
[39:09] maps of where resort housing is everywhere, even in northwest
[39:13] Brington. They're pushed out. That's their access to the water.
[39:20] And now we're looking at Sarasito's looking at, they have
[39:24] to bid for a medallion like a franchise. So it's,
[39:29] it's tough. We've got to take care of the people
[39:31] that are trying to live, you know, make a living.
[39:35] Their kids go to school here. And at the same
[39:38] time address what's happening with all the jet ski rentals
[39:41] and boat rentals that are trying to come in and
[39:43] take up the parking. So there have to be more
[39:46] discussion. And also at the county and on how we're
[39:49] going to address this. And I agree that how I
[39:51] want to really protect the Scott Moore, he wouldn't leave
[39:56] it alone. He says watch out because you guys are
[39:58] going to do this and this is going to affect
[39:59] us that actually live out here. But we pick our
[40:02] custards and ears up. So if we're, and how do
[40:05] you discriminate, unfortunately like the rental world, you're not allowed
[40:08] to limit them anymore, but just so we all know
[40:11] this may affect the islanders. Well, for our commercial business.
[40:16] Code, it could be written different than the counties and
[40:20] that's a county park. So we're having the county come
[40:24] up with, they know we want to support our locals.
[40:28] And our local charter fishermen have always been there. And
[40:32] they haven't been an issue. So I've reached out to
[40:35] them to try to see what they can do to
[40:37] solve the issue. Terry. I just wonder. Chief. Are the
[40:44] rules the same for the ramp. Sau. As their enforcing
[40:52] act. The rules pertaining to. Parking. Yeah. They have, uh,
[40:59] they have dedicated parking at Palmi sola for the boat
[41:03] and trailer. And they allow people to park all over
[41:07] there right away there. What are they allowing. The. Load
[41:12] their. Passengers there? Oh, they're doing that. Yeah. They're doing
[41:15] that. And so the jet skis, there was like 50
[41:18] jet skis out there, uh, over the weekend. And they've
[41:22] made their own ramps just by backing it down. They're
[41:26] not using the rams. They're just making the just going
[41:30] in there backing it up. And they're just, there's no
[41:33] enforcement at all. In fact, Tal said the county may
[41:36] need to go ahead and just sever the relationship with
[41:38] Bradenton being the one to enforce that because there is
[41:41] no enforcement. That's their jurisdiction, Brayton, not the county. That'll
[41:45] the county said they've, they have a. Only own the
[41:48] bathroom. They have an agreement with City of Bradenton to
[41:51] a boat ramp. Just for the boat ramp and the
[41:54] bathrooms of the state. That's the only thing the counties
[41:56] have. I wonder if part of the problem is they're
[41:59] not mowing and maintaining that. I realize. It's a construction
[42:02] site. It looks horrible. It was from Kingfish. They haven't
[42:08] mowed that. Four months. I think that that's because they're
[42:12] using it for staging. I know there's using all of
[42:16] it. It's an appearance thing. It'll be done next week.
[42:20] Hopefully that'll all be cleaned up after the project. But
[42:23] it may also be minimizing me. Exactly. Because it's more
[42:28] marshinette. That's not a bad thing. Okay. Dan and then
[42:32] we'll go and get onto the agenda. Chief, do these
[42:34] folks in these folks that use the ponto boats? Do
[42:37] they have a license and insurance to do this? We
[42:41] can regulate that. They're not supposed to be there. So
[42:44] we just have to, they asked us anytime we see
[42:47] them to make them leave. We're only allowed to be
[42:49] there for 15 minutes. No, they're only allowed to be
[42:51] attached to the doc for 15 minutes and we will
[42:53] give them a citation if we see them staging and
[42:57] waiting on their people to get there. Oh, good. I
[43:00] just don't want Kingfish to look like the causeway. Well,
[43:03] exactly. Well, that's what's happening. It's the only difference is
[43:06] they're not sitting up tents. You know, they're just, they're
[43:09] going and they're staging on the, uh, east side of
[43:12] the bridge. And then they sit there and they've got
[43:15] their trucks with the pontoons or their jet skis sitting
[43:19] there off to the side. And then when, you know,
[43:22] five minutes before their people are supposed to meet them
[43:24] there, they go and they drop the boat in the
[43:26] jet skis and people meet them there. And clever workarounds,
[43:30] aren't they? I've never seen a jet ski leave our
[43:32] kingfish. I always see them on the causeway. Oh no,
[43:35] we've got, uh, four trucks. Are they allowed to? Eight,
[43:38] uh, eight on each one, eight jet skis. We had
[43:41] that issue at 63rd Street as well. And then some
[43:44] discussion and I know a new signage went up. I've
[43:48] heard you've heard more. Complaints about just that. Some of
[43:52] the charter. And Untune captains were staging there. It's a
[43:58] very small dock. And we only allow 15 minutes as
[44:01] well there. And I think we have assigned no commercial
[44:05] use because you're not allowed to have commercial use on
[44:07] that deeded land. Using it. And there was a jet
[44:11] ski crash in Anna Maria this past weekend with a
[44:14] death. So for death. Like Beanpoint area, right? Yeah.
[44:25] Dangerous part. Yeah. Single vessel crash.
[44:37] That's good enough. So they were, were they renting the
[44:39] jet ski. Okay. The next topic was trolley shelter
[44:48] funding. They know that we've been sort of given the
[44:52] runaround. And it's because people leave who's at county. And
[44:56] then we got to go to the next person. And
[44:57] now that one we just were told is no longer
[45:00] there. So. Now Chad left. But then there was somebody
[45:03] else after Chad. So Charlie said, just send us the
[45:07] invoice. So. We're working on that. He said, yes, the
[45:12] amount that they normally fund for a trolley shelter should
[45:16] come to the city. And the addition from having the
[45:19] ones that look, you know, beachy and islander. And they're
[45:22] not just the metal ones. Then we can go for
[45:26] TDC funding for the difference. A thousand. No. We did
[45:30] bigger ones. Um, the, the public's shelter is at least
[45:35] two or three times bigger so that one would be
[45:37] a bigger dollar. But then not necessarily it was bid,
[45:42] it was expected to be 25, 000 dollars. And that's
[45:45] why that was in our budget. So this one's bigger.
[45:49] It wasn't, it's not going to go from 65 to
[45:51] more. It's supposed to go out to rebuild and we're
[45:54] hoping to get lower than 65. No, I'm not talking
[45:56] about that. That's something different. Different, different trolley stop? No,
[45:59] what I'm talking about is the difference. Say if the
[46:03] county pays the 6, 000 dollars per shelter. And our
[46:07] shelters cost 15, 000. The difference of that cost we
[46:11] can go to TDC and try to recoup that kind
[46:15] of money from them. It's what is what they're. Which
[46:18] we've been advocating for years. We totally can justify because
[46:22] we only have 2, 500 residents here. And we have
[46:27] 50 or 60, 000. You can do it by the
[46:30] trolley numbers. How many they ride. So that's totally tourism.
[46:35] Okay. The last was paid parking. Um, I have been
[46:40] in conversations with Mark Short. We've seen that they are
[46:45] looking at what they have to do. They, they invested
[46:48] in a parking plan. I think beginning of the year.
[46:52] So it was just unveiled. Everybody knows that we've done
[46:55] our parking map. And we've identified what we would have
[47:00] if we went forward with paid parking. And we've just
[47:02] been sort of waiting until we were pushed into paid
[47:05] parking because the county does it. So they've been doing
[47:09] the same thing. They want to wait, be ready. Um,
[47:14] because we all have to do it at the same
[47:15] time. So we just had another meeting with Mark. And
[47:20] this one was on exactly what they're looking at for
[47:23] their paid parking. It's very similar to what we would
[47:26] probably suggest to the board if we had to be
[47:30] moved into the paid parking. Um, which. And so we
[47:35] both used the same chief names. Passport tickets. They're the
[47:43] same vendor that is working with Anna Maria. So, so
[47:47] what I, what I told Mark was, we're going to
[47:52] probably be very similar. Manatee County might be different with
[47:55] theirs. I don't know what vendor they would use if
[47:57] they would do passport. But. Manatee County would maybe approach
[48:05] it differently because it's their manatee county parks. They would
[48:09] probably look at minute county residents either free or very.
[48:13] A lot less money than out of towners. We would
[48:16] be looking at protecting home speech, property owners. Ana Maria
[48:20] would be looking at protecting theirs. So although we might
[48:23] have little difference with our paid parking, we're hoping they
[48:27] would be very similar as far as use for the
[48:30] people that are using it. So we're just doing exactly
[48:32] what Mark doing. We're doing the background work in case
[48:36] it looks like it's going to happen. Or in case
[48:38] these two cities decide, let's do it. Let's not wait
[48:41] for the county. The staff has been prepared to act
[48:46] if we need to. What about Brayton Beach? I mean,
[48:48] it would be nice if everybody was caught. There was
[48:51] continuity. Well, that's count. I'm calling Braden County because Brandon
[48:55] Beach has zero right away parking pretty much. And all
[48:59] of their beach parking is county. So that's where I
[49:04] say county. That's what I mean. But yes, Braden Abbeach
[49:07] would be a part of it as well. Do we
[49:08] have all the map that you just talked about for
[49:11] our city? Is that available somewhere? It's online. Yep. And
[49:15] if you need someone to print it for you, we
[49:17] can. Thanks. I'd like a copy. It's all the parking
[49:21] within a quarter mile distance from the beach that's available
[49:25] for all these residential neighborhoods. And, um, I'm thinking it's
[49:30] like 800 and something parking. 102. But it also includes
[49:34] the county beach parking. So I wouldn't recommend going any
[49:41] farther than that, you know, getting into other people's quality
[49:46] of life just for a money maker. But, um, you
[49:50] might have to turn everything else into permit parking. So
[49:53] it doesn't become parking where people try to avoid the
[49:56] paid. So it could be messy. So we're going to
[50:00] get you all the information. So if it does come
[50:02] forward staff will be able to give you everything for
[50:05] your consideration. And could you give us a copy of
[50:08] that? I know we have paid parking for residents, which
[50:12] I totally refused to pay for. I don't even know
[50:14] where they are. But can we on a map have
[50:17] where they are? Because if we're going to do both,
[50:19] we need to get rid of the one. We don't
[50:21] have to kill. I know it's 50 dollars. And no,
[50:27] it was never 50. One time ago. No, never 50.
[50:29] It was 10. Whatever it is, I'm not paying to
[50:31] park when I live here for two years. It's permit
[50:32] parking. And a lot of the permit parking that we
[50:35] used to have went away when we, uh, went to
[50:39] all four tires off the road because you couldn't get
[50:41] off where tires off the road. So. We don't actually
[50:44] have a map that a lot of people love parking
[50:51] in those places. So you're going to get pushback from
[50:53] residents that. And I got to tell you, I don't
[50:56] want to get into the paid parking discussion cause it's
[50:58] big. But you cannot get rid of permit parking if
[51:03] you go to paid parking. Because if you don't have
[51:06] permit parking, here, people are going to park there so
[51:11] they don't have to pay 458 an hour here. So
[51:14] what happens with paid parking, you actually add more permit
[51:18] parking. So every other street of the city doesn't become
[51:21] someone trying to avoid paying an hourly rate to park.
[51:25] So it is messy once you start going paid parkings.
[51:28] But we'll have all that information for you when you're
[51:30] ready to talk about it. Next. Okay. Just where would
[51:34] I find it on the city site? Sorry. I'm just,
[51:39] what do you want to know or something? The parking
[51:40] math. No, there's a, what do you want to know
[51:44] or something on the City website? You go to, I
[51:46] want to and you go down to find parking. Oh,
[51:51] I want to find parking. Thank you. It's an interactive
[51:54] map there. That's a parking map, but I don't know
[51:57] if there's the permit parking map is probably still there.
[52:02] Um, and that's it. Okay. Now can we get on
[52:06] to the agenda. Yes. Um. Paid parking is going to
[52:12] be a heated issue in the next couple of years,
[52:14] I think. But I'm not sure the county has the
[52:18] authority to issue free parking to man to your residents
[52:21] at the county beaches. Because those 1400 parking spaces are
[52:26] used for beetree nourishment. And I think it is for
[52:30] B tree nursing my understanding is everybody has to pay
[52:32] the same. Exactly. That's correct. And we will of course
[52:36] research and assure that we're clear on that guidance to
[52:40] the extent clarity can be found at all. Right. Um,
[52:42] we'll make sure that once we have a substantive discussion
[52:44] on the parking thing that we have that context. Yeah,
[52:47] I just didn't want to throw another wrinkle in it.
[52:49] Randy, explain that again. No, just explain again because I'm
[52:54] not into all this like, seems like you are. I'm
[52:59] being asked to explain a question. But what I would
[53:01] say is that there's, depending on where you're talking about,
[53:05] what divisions of government you're talking about. Attendant to Beatri
[53:09] Nourishment historically, the guidance from the federal government and as
[53:13] administered by the state that where Beach Renourishment dollars and
[53:16] resources are utilized that a certain amount of parking has
[53:19] to be available to the general public at no charge.
[53:22] Um, there's been, not sorry. And that's why I said
[53:25] like, and that was in another county. That was in
[53:27] another county. And why I was trying to be vague
[53:29] on purpose, um, because I don't know the exact parameters
[53:32] here, but there has to be some allotment for public
[53:34] parking. Um, and so there are certain parameters around that.
[53:38] It is constantly evolving landscape and guidance from the Army
[53:41] Corps of Engineers, federals and the state. And we would
[53:43] want to make sure that in addition to whatever agreements
[53:46] and commitments we have as between the City of Homes
[53:48] Beach and the county, we're also aware of any regulatory
[53:51] compliance. That is attendant to parking without making any, for
[53:55] my friends in the press commitments or, or affirmative statements
[53:58] on what the policy absolutely is in this moment where
[54:00] we have not been researching that actively. What the policy
[54:03] is. Whether you're from Ohio or Holmes Beach, that parking
[54:10] place is available for you for the same amount of
[54:13] money or free. So, and there's a certain amount of
[54:17] parking per block. Or length of beach. That you have
[54:22] to provide for Beach Renourishment Dollars. And so public beach
[54:28] on the beach renourishment, there's like 325 spots shows up
[54:33] that that is available to all at the same rate
[54:37] or no right. Home speech. On our secondary parking. That's
[54:43] primary parking. Secondary parking because I know the restrooms. There's
[54:47] no lifeguards. It's just secondary beach parking. There's a few
[54:51] spots all up and down our beach. That total 65.
[54:56] That's all we have to, and then you get credits
[54:59] for some bike racks and trolley stops. But those 65
[55:05] spots throughout Home Speech would be city getting funded if
[55:09] it became paid parking or not. You can keep it
[55:11] free for all. The 325 is right now. What. That
[55:18] was the last beach renourishment. Paperwork that we received. Correct
[55:25] me if I'm wrong, but. And I believe we have
[55:28] more than that. We have about 800. Yeah. Designated. Two.
[55:33] Yeah. 800. And those are all those are all labeled,
[55:37] right Chief. The county has. Yeah. We've improved them all
[55:42] and they're mapped. Yeah. They're my, okay. And they're on
[55:45] that map that you have on the website. Okay. I
[55:47] guess I got to look it. Up. Okay. We're done
[55:50] with the mayor's report. All right. Now we are on
[55:56] comments by the public. You'll have a chance now and
[55:59] you'll have a chance at the end of the meeting
[56:01] if you'd like to come up. Please state your name.
[56:04] And I guess you have to write it on a
[56:06] paper. And you got five minutes for the chair's prerogative.
[56:28] She's just soft spoken. Yeah. Proving your successful, my husband
[56:33] says that. I'm proving your successful management of storm mitigation
[56:39] and debris removal. Congratulations. I was at the recent TDC
[56:44] meeting and Herb and Ben Dan and Mark. Who found,
[56:52] identified the part of the, their bylaws or their charter
[56:58] that says the TDC can indeed use funding to pay
[57:02] for infrastructure. So herb and Dan did a great job
[57:08] explaining, uh, the funding at request for funding for the
[57:13] title valves. It was well done. I would like to
[57:17] add a couple things to that. Yes, it's an inconvenience
[57:21] to have water on the road, but I think we
[57:24] all know also that it's a safety issue. Because pedestrians
[57:29] and bikers have to go out into the street and
[57:32] compete for space with vehicles. Mayor Brown had a question
[57:38] about justification of spending TDC funds on residential streets. And
[57:46] I think Commissioner Whitmore may have been, well, no, you
[57:50] kind of addressed it today. We're mostly tourists. So every
[57:55] street has tourists. If you, if we are using some
[58:00] kind of TD's TDC funds on a residential street, it's
[58:06] mostly tourists. It's going to benefit tourists. And also there
[58:14] was questions about opening up a can of worms. They've
[58:19] never done this before. They've never spent funding on infrastructure.
[58:25] Well, so what? If they open a can of worms.
[58:29] Our city has been, have been spending money for years
[58:33] on infrastructure that protects the tourism. So we have, we've,
[58:41] we've protected more and more tourists and fewer and fewer
[58:46] residents. So thanks to the Commissioner Commissioner Dan and Herb
[58:54] and Mark for finding out that those funds could be
[58:58] used for that. And now for lifeguards. So great. Let's
[59:02] open that can of worms. We've given them enough worms
[59:06] anyway. Thank you. That was good. Thank you, Nancy. Anybody
[59:09] else in the public like to make a public comment
[59:12] now or would you rather wait. Okay. We closed public
[59:15] comment. Um, Mayor Brown was probably flipping out because river
[59:19] view boulevard. And I'm sure you all hear complaints. Have
[59:22] her really have heard about all of its short -
[59:26] term rentals now. Those big mansions. And now they're all
[59:29] raising heck. But, uh, 2, 500 block about augmentation. If
[59:35] you go down and you'll see the road dips a
[59:37] little, all those homes, if the high tide are flooded,
[59:41] mayor post and lived on one of them. He hasn't
[59:43] been back there since the hurricane. They've all gotten destroyed
[59:46] because the water's gone over the seawalls now. And you
[59:50] know, that's probably what he's talking about. The can of
[59:52] worms because that could help them. But they're going to
[59:54] have to elevate their seawalls or something. That's how bad
[59:57] it's getting. May I give a little clarity. If you.
[1:00:03] Don't, yeah. Okay. Uh, I do it on your report.
[1:00:08] No, just now TDC. It did not pass by the
[1:00:11] way we deferred it to the next meeting, which is
[1:00:14] in October. And the reason it was deferred is because
[1:00:17] there's one little thing that Elliot missed. It says an
[1:00:22] independent professional analysis performed at the expense of the county
[1:00:26] tourism development council demonstrates the positive impact of the infrastructure
[1:00:31] project on tourists related businesses in the county. Or blah,
[1:00:36] blah, blah, blah, blah. So basically it's an independent analysis.
[1:00:40] It's not really a study. It's just an analysis. But
[1:00:42] what this means is in Herb and I have talked
[1:00:45] about this. If you take a picture of the trolley
[1:00:47] stop down here in front of the public works building
[1:00:50] when high tide, the trolley stop is flooded. The sidewalk
[1:00:54] is flooded and the bike path is flooded. If you
[1:00:57] take a picture with a tide valve in there at
[1:01:00] high tide, they're not flooded. There's your analysis. So it
[1:01:05] has to be something probably that simple. I'm not sure
[1:01:08] what TDC is going to do between now and our
[1:01:11] next meeting in October. But we requested 344, 500 for
[1:01:15] this. The total, uh, project over five years is 689,
[1:01:21] 000. Install 77 tide valves, something like that. Well, it
[1:01:26] used to be good in math. And that's all great.
[1:01:29] I'm glad again, um, I didn't think we'd be taught,
[1:01:33] I wasn't planning on talking about this. But as a
[1:01:35] board member, I didn't know we were going to go
[1:01:37] before them to request it. Or I would have done
[1:01:40] my homework or tried to be there. To support it.
[1:01:43] Again, TDC monies can also be used for other things.
[1:01:47] You know, now we're doing, we're back, she got money.
[1:01:50] You guys raised a stormwater fee. So we are doing
[1:01:53] more tidal valves. And now where are we historically flooded
[1:01:56] for 20 something years? It's kind of resolved in itself.
[1:02:00] So we have to look at other things. But I
[1:02:02] think something like that. We as a board probably should
[1:02:05] stand united when we go to the TDC and said
[1:02:08] that our commission's requesting this. And maybe then our attorney
[1:02:12] could have known that we needed to do research. I
[1:02:14] don't know. Um, the lifeguards is wonderful to hear because
[1:02:18] Panama did it years ago. Some legislator that was in
[1:02:22] charge up there was higher up like a president of
[1:02:24] the Senate or whatever. He actually had an exemption for
[1:02:28] Panama City that they could have the TDC funds would
[1:02:32] pay for lifeguards. And they, they did it on a
[1:02:35] formula with their population, et cetera. And that's how they
[1:02:38] got it. We as the counties and the city supported
[1:02:42] at Went to Tallahassee. He said, we want to do
[1:02:44] a Panama Cities doing. They said, nope, you don't meet
[1:02:46] that population - like Panama and you don't do this.
[1:02:49] So that's why we never got it. But I mean,
[1:02:52] if we're going to do something like this, maybe before
[1:02:55] the next meeting, if we get serious, we need to
[1:02:57] make sure if that's really what we want to spend
[1:03:00] our money for for the valves, since we already got
[1:03:02] a stormwater fee, and I don't know how many more
[1:03:04] we have in the hopper, it sounds like 300, 000
[1:03:06] more. Or is there another infrastructure thing that's related to
[1:03:10] Taurus that could also help. But I think it poses
[1:03:13] also budget related. And policy. So, and I'm glad you
[1:03:18] brought it up because now all the other cities are
[1:03:20] going to look at it. Now they're all going to
[1:03:21] be wanting it to. Yeah. And that's not just us.
[1:03:25] All the cities along the, all the cities along the
[1:03:28] shoreline of Florida, because if you're going to do a
[1:03:31] fresh, you have to do it for all. So whatever.
[1:03:34] Okay. And now with amendment three, we may have to
[1:03:37] be more creative with that money because of whatever happens
[1:03:40] with what funding we don't get if it does pass.
[1:03:43] So anyway, so, um, so yes. I heard about it
[1:03:48] during the meeting. That we were talking about. And that's
[1:03:52] why I thought I didn't want you to not be
[1:03:55] successful. If you're bringing for it, say our board wants
[1:03:58] us to look at this. But maybe in the future,
[1:04:00] if that's what we want to use it for, we
[1:04:02] as a board should say that. Or if we have
[1:04:03] another project. But that's up to you guys. We're pretty
[1:04:06] used in a being successful at TDC. Even when you
[1:04:10] were on the board, we got turned out. I know
[1:04:12] because a lot of stuff you asked for didn't meet
[1:04:14] the crime. No, it did. State law. Well, you didn't
[1:04:16] get it. I know because you didn't vote for it.
[1:04:19] Oh, because it didn't meet the criteria. It did. The
[1:04:22] attorney said it did years. It was unanimous at TDC.
[1:04:26] The city attorney attorney said it did. You said you
[1:04:29] didn't like seawalls. You wanted bike lanes or sidewalks. So
[1:04:32] then we went for bike lanes and sidewalks and it
[1:04:35] still got turned down. So yes, I understand. But it's
[1:04:40] not going to make us stop trying. We're going to
[1:04:42] continue to try. And I really commend her and Dan
[1:04:48] for bringing it up in time for that next because
[1:04:51] that was one of our budget items, even though we
[1:04:54] did get, um, stormwater fee. We got a partial of
[1:04:59] the stormwater fee increased. And I don't think you even
[1:05:03] voted for stormwater fee. Oh, I didn't. Those only reach
[1:05:08] our match. So, so we still have to get additional
[1:05:13] funding for stormwater because we are really, we don't have
[1:05:17] enough to do everything we want to do. You are
[1:05:19] correct. I voted against it because Bill Claig, who actually
[1:05:23] came from Orange County that when the TDC first star
[1:05:26] or the Taurus tax first started, he recommended to us
[1:05:30] that we could use it for your bike paths. If
[1:05:33] we could connect it to a park, so Taurus could
[1:05:35] say they went to the beach and then we're at
[1:05:37] a park. And there was a problem with golf drive
[1:05:39] that they couldn't quite make the park. And that's why
[1:05:41] it got denied. And then another time we looked on
[1:05:44] the seawall along here. But there was another connection we
[1:05:46] couldn't make. So yeah, you are right on some of
[1:05:48] that. Okay. Now can we go on to the next
[1:05:51] thing? Are we on Unfinished Business? None. Uh, new business
[1:05:56] authorized the mayor to execute an agreement between the City
[1:05:59] of Homes Beach and accurate power and technology ink for
[1:06:03] the purpose and delay purchased installation of the City Hall
[1:06:07] Generator. I know we've talked about this before Herb. Do
[1:06:10] you want to just give something very basics of the
[1:06:12] public knows what's going on.
[1:06:24] Health A. There you go. We'll do that. Way. Hopefully
[1:06:28] this works. Awesome. So just real, real briefly, uh, follow
[1:06:36] up to our previous conversations related to this. This is
[1:06:40] for the replacement of the generator here at City Hall.
[1:06:46] Just for everyone's recollection, the generator was installed in 1991.
[1:06:53] For the last few years maintenance and generator has been
[1:06:57] costly. And. We were able to secure a HMGP rant.
[1:07:08] For the replacement. And it's approximately a 2575. Percent match.
[1:07:17] Breakdown. So the city would pay 25 percent approximately. Federal
[1:07:23] government A. And we have, we had five bidders, which
[1:07:29] was fantastic. Unfortunately, one of the bidders had to be
[1:07:32] deemed non - responsive. Because they did not submit a
[1:07:36] bid bond. It still left us with four bidders. And
[1:07:42] accurate power and technology is in accordance with our procurement.
[1:07:48] Code. Is the. Most responsive and responsible bidder. At
[1:07:58] the best value. And so what that amount is, this
[1:08:03] 97, 951 dollars in 17 cents. We're using our standard
[1:08:11] contract. Nothing really different from any other types of contracts
[1:08:16] that we execute with various contractors. Obviously the biggest schedule
[1:08:23] for this is just going to be waiting for a
[1:08:26] generator to be fabricated. So once this fabricated installation should
[1:08:30] go fairly quickly. And I asked her, but if I
[1:08:34] recall, it's just, is it just for the City Hall
[1:08:36] here? Does it? Correct. Yeah. So it's going to be
[1:08:42] elevated. Yeah. It's, it's going to be in the exact
[1:08:44] same location where. The existing one is, which is elevated.
[1:08:48] And it'll power the entire building, which includes police department.
[1:08:53] And, you know, the call center of the 911 center,
[1:08:55] which needs to stay open all the time for emergency
[1:08:58] purposes. That's really good. No valuable. Any other questions, Terry.
[1:09:05] Thanks for all the detail. We had time to really
[1:09:08] dig into the weeds on this one. I wanted kind
[1:09:11] of unusual that there was such a disparity. 1299 to
[1:09:16] a locate of 68, 2006.
[1:09:26] With this qualified contractor. Carol's already asked, can you address
[1:09:31] the elevation issue. Reading through the material, I see that.
[1:09:38] COLAR only offers a one - year warranty. And we
[1:09:41] went through this post - storm. We had a whole
[1:09:45] house, Kohler. I'd survive the storm, but about a year
[1:09:49] for it. Kick the ball today. Seven years. Right. So.
[1:09:55] Essentially I challenged Kohler. And they came back and said,
[1:09:59] well, yes, it should have lasted longer. Our last lasted
[1:10:03] 35 years here. So I don't think we have a
[1:10:05] complaint. But they offered at no additional cost. What would
[1:10:09] be an additional cost for a 10 - year warranty.
[1:10:11] And I wondered if you explored the possibility of having
[1:10:15] an extended war. Do you know what that cost would
[1:10:17] be. We not spoken with Kohler over that. Something that
[1:10:25] we would like to call to do. Uh, since they
[1:10:29] would be the ones making the purchase for us. So
[1:10:31] we're not going to owner, purchase the equipment. Well, I
[1:10:36] think, um, I know you want to get this done.
[1:10:39] But while we're doing it before we sign the final
[1:10:42] line, I would suggest at least determine what the cost
[1:10:46] is. And, um, let Executive Prince and you decide whether
[1:10:54] it's a worthy additional cost. In our case. Always on
[1:10:58] mechanics offer the additional 10 year. If I may, mayor.
[1:11:05] Judy. So my recommendation would be right now it would
[1:11:13] be presumptuous of us to ask the contractor without having
[1:11:16] them under contract. To make that ask. So I would
[1:11:22] say that, you know, my recommendation is that we would
[1:11:25] enter the contract with a contractor. One of the first
[1:11:29] tacits that we would ask them to do after we
[1:11:30] kick the project off. Is to do that research and
[1:11:34] let us know what that cost is. And then we
[1:11:37] could do an amendment to the contract for the difference.
[1:11:40] That makes perfect. I have no problem with your choice.
[1:11:43] You made the right choice, in my opinion. It's simply.
[1:11:47] We can avoid a cost. That would be covered by
[1:11:50] a reasonable. Correct. Maintenance extended maintenance. Correct. And, and, and
[1:11:56] frankly, all four of the responsive bidders are, they're all
[1:12:01] deemed responsible and responsive. You know, we could go with
[1:12:03] any of them. However, where code is written, it's my
[1:12:09] duty to recommend the most valuable. And I support most
[1:12:15] affordable. My question wasn't relative to choice and recommendation. It's
[1:12:22] simply correct. Another element. And I think you're right. Get
[1:12:25] them under contract and then find out what the additional
[1:12:27] cost. And you can recommend back to us for that
[1:12:30] additional. Choosing. Perfect. And Jessica and then. Just so
[1:12:40] out of this 97, right? So HMGP is going to
[1:12:44] pay 75 percent of that approximately. I, I believe this
[1:12:50] particular grant is, it's kind of an odd one where
[1:12:52] it's like 27 point something. So at the end of
[1:12:58] the day we'll be like paying 25, 000, like around
[1:13:00] 25, 000 probably, okay. Again, with all just like all
[1:13:04] the other grants that we've been awarded so far, it's
[1:13:09] a reimbursement. Yep. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to
[1:13:11] make sure that that was end of the day. It's
[1:13:13] going to, it should be costing us around 24. Thank
[1:13:16] you. Yeah, just quick, Herb. I read the technical specs
[1:13:20] and I'm a little confused. Does it include an onomatic
[1:13:23] transfer switch built into it. Actually, we're going to use
[1:13:28] the one that we have. Okay. Like, cause when we
[1:13:30] have is actually relatively new. It's I think it was
[1:13:33] installed two years ago. Like right after the storms. Okay.
[1:13:38] Um, and that's a large ticket item. And so because
[1:13:43] I couldn't discern whether it was included in this bid
[1:13:46] or not. Is this got an automatic reset feature in
[1:13:48] the inner? Right. Yes. And, uh, that was one of
[1:13:51] the questions that bitters asked and our response after coordinating
[1:13:56] with the building department and having our current building official
[1:14:00] taught. I don't know if you all know, but he's
[1:14:02] a certified master electrician. So we had him look at
[1:14:04] everything and he was like, Oh my goodness gracious. Why
[1:14:06] would we get rid of this thing? They're expensive. Uh,
[1:14:10] and so, and then talking with some other folks that
[1:14:14] also agreed with that assessment. I was right the right
[1:14:17] way to go. And so we responded to all the
[1:14:21] bidders, let them know that, uh, it wasn't required. And
[1:14:26] that could be one of the reasons why there's such
[1:14:28] a disparity in some of these costs. Some of the
[1:14:31] higher bidders may have. Not, you know, not caught that.
[1:14:36] Um, but they all were made aware. You know, all
[1:14:40] through public comment, um, you know, public distribution of the
[1:14:45] information. So because of the way the procurement goes, we
[1:14:49] can't pick up the phone and call them and say,
[1:14:50] Hey, don't forget that blah, blah, blah. It was all
[1:14:54] the same way. This is not a criticism. Just a
[1:14:57] question. In a hundred KW is satisfactory for the whole
[1:15:00] building. Yes. Okay. No problem at all. We don't have
[1:15:04] to keep things off. Well, I'm a civil engineer. So
[1:15:07] I'd hate to be the person to say yes or
[1:15:09] no for sure, but from what I've been told from
[1:15:11] the electricals is that yes, it will power the entire
[1:15:17] building. And all of the existing equipment with capacity for
[1:15:22] additional things. And I believe, uh, during the hurricanes, we
[1:15:27] were even allowing residents to charge their equipment here, uh,
[1:15:33] and at the same time, all the other existing equipment
[1:15:35] was being powered. Okay. Thank you. Um, are we ready
[1:15:39] to take action on this. Any other discussion. A move
[1:15:43] we prove. A second. Motion by Terry's second by Dan.
[1:15:48] Any other discussion. Seeing none, um, all in favor say
[1:15:52] aye. I think we have to make us a roster
[1:15:55] volume. Oh yeah, I forgot. That's right. Sorry. Thank you.
[1:15:59] Commissioner Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Olfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner
[1:16:04] Diggins. Aye. Chair Whitmore. Thank you. Okay. Now we have
[1:16:09] an interlocal agreement for fuel services between the city of
[1:16:12] Holmes Beach and the City of Anna Maria. Okay. This
[1:16:16] is the one that I authorized herb. Yeah. And to
[1:16:19] work with Randy on. We're trying to. Work with our
[1:16:22] other cities and do what we can to for each
[1:16:24] other. And, um, they've been sending all of their vehicles
[1:16:28] off island for fuel. And they understood that we have
[1:16:34] our tanks right here. And so he asked if he
[1:16:36] could join in and he could pay for the fuel
[1:16:39] they use. And. Good. So we have enough capacity. So
[1:16:43] we said yes, it's a no brainer. So this is
[1:16:45] the Interloco Agreement for that. This is a way we
[1:16:47] can prove to everybody that we're working with our other
[1:16:50] cities. That's another thing we'll put on our checklist. Okay.
[1:16:54] Any discussion on that? Any questions. Okay. Do I have
[1:16:57] an action. Of approval. Of a second. Second. I'm emotioned
[1:17:03] by Terry's second by Steve. Any other discussion. All in
[1:17:07] favor say aye. Aye. Oh no. Yeah. Let's just do
[1:17:12] it. I just said that. That's somewhere this way. Commissioner
[1:17:14] Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Ulfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner Diggins.
[1:17:19] Aye. Chair Whitmore. Okay. Thank you everyone. Um, now we're
[1:17:23] on the announcements, summer turtle talks again, Monday at 10
[1:17:28] a. m. Wednesday the second. Parks of beautification at 10.
[1:17:33] Also Planning Commission is at 330. September 7th, the City
[1:17:37] Hall is closed for Labor Day. On September 9th Clean
[1:17:41] Water Ad Hot Committees is at 9 and September 9th
[1:17:45] is the City Commission's first budget meeting with a regular
[1:17:49] hearing with a regular meaning to follow. And that starts
[1:17:52] at 5. 01 p. m. by law. So there won't
[1:17:55] be a meeting on September 9th about the budget until
[1:17:59] 5 p. m. That's by law. Um, okay. Do we
[1:18:02] have any questions and comments from the mayor. Nope. Any
[1:18:06] from the City Commission, Terry? Just one awareness. I've been
[1:18:12] talking to Andrew Kallel. Of setting up a meeting with
[1:18:18] Senator Boyd. And the issue is really an opportunity to
[1:18:24] discuss with him what he feels or achievable legislative priorities.
[1:18:32] Every year we go before the Manatee County delegation. And
[1:18:37] I've been doing this for seven years now, or six
[1:18:41] in the past. This will be the seventh. And we
[1:18:46] approve by Commission our legislative priorities with input from consul
[1:18:51] with input from certainly since we've had good consultation
[1:19:02] from Andrew to put together a slate of, number one,
[1:19:06] and it'll continue. It'll be home rule. And that's something
[1:19:09] I'd like you to think about. Carol, when you're before,
[1:19:13] the legal women voters. And I'm glad you're there. Finds
[1:19:16] the women's Republican club, but they feel the same way,
[1:19:19] I think. Yeah. Just remember the impact this has on
[1:19:24] the negative impact it has on home rule. It's an
[1:19:27] egregious. It's an egregious stand against home rule in cities
[1:19:33] and municipalities being able to govern their own financing. So
[1:19:37] that triggered the thought. Let's sit down with the senator.
[1:19:43] He's going to be the president of the Senate. Let's
[1:19:47] try to find before we assemble our list and present
[1:19:52] it, what he feels is truly. And it'll be his
[1:19:55] opinion, regardless. But an opportunity to have a discussion with
[1:19:59] him, with some of the frustrations we and many other
[1:20:02] cities have with regard to this process. And really ever
[1:20:06] finding any traction by any of our delegation of taking
[1:20:10] a lead in supporting some of these, in my opinion,
[1:20:15] uh, legitimate requests. So that, um, that will take place
[1:20:22] probably in the next month. It'll depend on his, his
[1:20:24] schedule. Terry, um, you're right. After Jim Boyd, uh, manatee
[1:20:31] county and none of the cities here have any pull
[1:20:35] in Tallahassee for quite a few years because the legislators
[1:20:39] in the hopper to go for leadership positions. So this
[1:20:42] is our, this is our only opportunity. And could we
[1:20:46] at the next meeting possibly look at what our legislative
[1:20:50] platform is and retweeted. And what we really, you know,
[1:20:54] they only want usually, you can have 10 or 12,
[1:20:56] but they only want to hear three. I've learned that
[1:20:59] through all my years going up for 16 years up
[1:21:01] there. They'll take your top three. So is there any
[1:21:04] way that we could like have a, I know we
[1:21:06] don't do work sessions. We do at our next meeting,
[1:21:09] we can look at our, our platform and look at
[1:21:13] and see if the change in it. And since this
[1:21:16] is the only year he's here, I encourage everybody. And
[1:21:20] I remember, I don't know if you had guys remember
[1:21:22] Mike Bennett. When he was a senator. And we would
[1:21:26] go up there and one year, only a couple of
[1:21:30] us went up there in the county. And he goes,
[1:21:33] why would I even give you guys millions of dollars
[1:21:35] when you won't spend the money to come up and
[1:21:37] ask me for it. So when he told us that,
[1:21:40] that's why you see such a big constituent in town
[1:21:43] doing it. Because they're always surprised that they have that
[1:21:47] much support. And I would recommend strongly, I don't know
[1:21:51] when the next session, I know they have like a
[1:21:53] day where you meet your legislators. I'm not sure. We've
[1:21:57] got a couple of days before it. But maybe we
[1:21:59] should go up as a, and you have to vote
[1:22:02] on it ahead of time. So the sunshine issues. And
[1:22:05] you can go up and push them on things we
[1:22:08] really want. This is a process that we've always followed
[1:22:12] in response to your question. I think it's a little
[1:22:14] premature now because these presentations don't occur until. March. After
[1:22:20] the first of the year. Usually January. But it's, I
[1:22:23] mean, to get our homework done or studies, the money's
[1:22:25] attached. What suggestions we bring back this year's priorities. My
[1:22:32] next step was to ask each of you to give
[1:22:34] that some individual thought make suggestions because the end product
[1:22:38] is a result of consensus on behalf of the commission
[1:22:41] of what not only our legislative priorities are, but the
[1:22:45] priorities and how we list them. That's exactly what I
[1:22:48] meant. Our platform have now look at it and see
[1:22:51] what we want. And maybe put stuff with it. Yeah.
[1:22:56] So we can plead our case because again, Jim's next
[1:22:59] year. And then we don't get any benefit. Marina, could
[1:23:03] you remember to just include this year's as a reminder
[1:23:06] to everyone and we can have a discussion item on
[1:23:09] that. Do we want to put it on an agenda
[1:23:12] then just to go over it at the next meeting?
[1:23:14] I don't want to go for early. It's far too
[1:23:16] early to really decide, but if you want to look
[1:23:21] at it, just to look at it. And then if
[1:23:23] anybody has ideas and they can bring it to another
[1:23:25] meeting. Yes. And that's fine to have that discussion in
[1:23:29] my opinion before I have the discussion with senate. Right.
[1:23:32] Right. Okay. Right. Everybody okay. If you have any projects
[1:23:36] that you think once you look at our gender when
[1:23:38] they send it out with our platform is I've also
[1:23:41] talked to ask Chad for his opinion on whatever he
[1:23:47] sees, um, with regard to development and the curls that
[1:23:53] are on state control that we've lost authority on to
[1:23:56] determine whether he is any suggestions for our consideration. Years
[1:24:01] ago I was put on that organization that reviewed us
[1:24:04] about our consolidating when the legislators were threatened us, what's
[1:24:11] it called? Opega. I was put on years ago. And,
[1:24:16] um, we came up with a recommendation, Opega did all
[1:24:19] the research. But cities have to do two readings for
[1:24:23] ordinances. But all the 57 counties don't. They only have
[1:24:26] to do one reading. And they were trying to look
[1:24:29] at ways to for government to be more efficient and
[1:24:32] we brought that to the legislators like, why do cities
[1:24:35] have to do too when counties only have to do
[1:24:38] one. But it never went anywhere if the legislator. But
[1:24:41] that's the kind of stuff that we could, you know,
[1:24:43] with this stuff and moment three and all this stuff.
[1:24:46] You may want to look at it. Yeah. Okay. Um,
[1:24:49] thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. Steve. No?
[1:24:57] Yes. No, thank you. Yeah. No, nothing for me, mayor.
[1:25:04] I know. Okay. The city attorney. And we have questions
[1:25:10] or comments from the staff. Chief. Updates for y'all. My
[1:25:16] usual stats here. Since Helene, we're almost up to 5,
[1:25:21] 000 permits issued. 1, 500 and 41 this year alone.
[1:25:27] Plan reviews. We're over 14, 000 total inspections wherever 19,
[1:25:31] 000. We have 104 demo permits now. Um, I think
[1:25:35] last time we reported, we were at night. I heard
[1:25:37] four what? Demo permits. We have 39 of those have
[1:25:40] applied for new single family homes. So we've got a
[1:25:43] backlog of, we have 39 that have applied for new
[1:25:46] homes. And we received 104 demo permits. How many of
[1:25:52] those are in R1 and how many are in R2.
[1:25:54] I don't know that. Breakdown. I'm not sure the breakdown.
[1:26:02] If you could work that out sometime, I think that'd
[1:26:05] be helpful for us to know. It kind of gives
[1:26:06] us an idea. What kind of rentals we're going to
[1:26:08] get. Out. Of. Uh, we now have six homes that
[1:26:15] are utilizing the elevate Florida program. The last time we
[1:26:18] reported there were three. The additional, uh, HPMG funding. Is
[1:26:24] additional units. And we have 151 active turtlenes. It's impressive.
[1:26:32] And 1611 vacation on the certificates. Chief? I'll just give
[1:26:40] you one first two weeks of school. We've had 55
[1:26:43] people that have exceeded the speed. And I believe nine
[1:26:47] of them are island residents. Questomount now. We did have.
[1:26:55] I don't know if y'all saw it on Facebook, but
[1:26:56] we did have them publicly. Was my name Jessica. Jessica,
[1:27:01] did you get one? No. No. Oh, no. But we
[1:27:03] did have one person last Wednesday that came out in
[1:27:06] the morning and was doing 31 miles an hour. And
[1:27:10] then as he left the island in the afternoon, he
[1:27:12] was doing 28. So he was given two tickets in
[1:27:15] one day, uh, speeding in the school zone. Crazy. And
[1:27:19] he received the citation in January of this year. So
[1:27:23] he should have known. Okay. You won't get a Christmas
[1:27:27] card for him. I've been, I'll open it up for
[1:27:31] public comment one more time. Everybody wants to come up.
[1:27:35] You got five minutes to talk about anything. And I
[1:27:39] apologize for my voice. I've known of two people are
[1:27:42] actually in the hospital with COVID. So I tested myself
[1:27:44] before I came here. I just got a cold. Okay.
[1:27:47] With that, this meeting's adjourned at 3. 30. Thank you.