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We'll go ahead and begin. I welcome each

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and every one of you to this afternoon's

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meeting or early evening meeting, the

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16th meeting of the year uh for 2026 of

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the city board of directors. We'll begin

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with invocation by Father Mark Neighbors

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with St. Luke's Episcopal Church. And

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I'll lead the pledge. All rise.

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Let us pray.

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Almighty God, our heavenly father, send

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down upon those who hold office in this

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community the spirit of wisdom, charity,

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and justice that with steadfast purpose

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they may faithfully serve in their

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offices to promote the well-being of all

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people through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Amen.

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>> Amen. Please join me in the pledge. I

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>> aliance to the flag of the United States

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of America and to the republic for which

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it stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» We'll now call this meeting to order.

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Please call the role. Director Aaron

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Holidayiday,

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» Director Phyllis Beard,

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>> present.

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>> Director Marcia Dob Smith,

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>> Director Dudley Webb,

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>> here.

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>> Director Karen Garcia,

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>> Director Steve Trusty

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>> here.

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>> Mayor Pat McCabe

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>> here. At this time, we'll consider

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approval of the agenda. Are there any

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additions, deletions to the agenda or

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items on the consent agenda to be moved

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to new business?

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>> Director Webb.

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>> Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um

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B, I want to give you a question before

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making any type of potential motion. Um

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item four, R-26-139.

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um resolution to consider setting the

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time and date of a public hearing on the

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multi-purpose improvement district.

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>> Yes, sir. if is there are some residents

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in my district who have questions on

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this and I know the purpose of it being

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on our agenda this evening is to

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consider setting a time for a hearing

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but would there be anyone here available

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including yourself to answer a few of

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the questions that I have before the

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hearing so that I can uh be better

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prepared to provide details to those

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with questions

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>> okay that's the case, then would a a

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move to new business be appropriate for

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this evening?

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to new business if you'd like, but

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there's no action to be taken tonight

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other than setting the date and time,

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which is required by the statute,

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>> right? Uh, I want to make that motion to

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move it to new business.

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have a motion. We just move it, can't

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>> we'll just move it to the first item on

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new business. Thank you.

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consent agenda to new business. That was

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resolution R-26-139.

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So, motion to approve the agenda as

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modified. Director Garcia.

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>> So, move to approve as amended.

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>> Thank you. Seconded by

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by Director Do Smith. All in

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favor signify by saying I.

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oppose. Same sign. Agenda is adopted.

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This time we'll consider approval of the

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minutes of the regularly held meeting on

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August 4th, 2026. Are there additions,

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deletions, or corrections to the minutes

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as presented?

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>> Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to

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>> Got a motion by Director Web, seconded

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>> Director Do Smith. All in favor signify

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by saying I. I.

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>> Post same sign.

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Our recognition of guests, we have Mr.

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Cole McKascal, interim president and CEO

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of Greater Hot Springs Chamber of

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Commerce and Metro Partnership. Uh Cole

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will deliver the economic development

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report. Welcome.

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>> Thank you very much, mayor, directors.

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Good to see you. Um real quick, I wanted

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to make a a special presentation.

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As [clears throat] you know, um the

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Metro Partnership has investors in our

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organization. Um, and every now and then

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we like to give a little something back

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to show our appreciation. And so this

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summer we've been going around and and

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giving uh a little something to that

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people can display at their place of

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business. Uh, and the city of Hot

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Springs is our largest investor and

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qualifies for our largest uh investor

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level. And last week I came over and

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presented this to the mayor and the city

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manager uh and and they thought it'd be

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nice if everyone saw that. So, we are

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deeply appreciative of your investment

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in economic development for our for our

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area. Thank you very much.

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>> I'm going to leave this in Lance's poss

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possession.

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» So, it's uh it's only been three weeks

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since my last report here, but I do have

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a few updates for you. Um, as you know,

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we've been updating you on uh new

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business leads coming from the state

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economic development agency. Uh, I'm

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proud to say we are now up to five new

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manufacturing leads uh totaling a

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potential new job creation numbers

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around 925 new jobs, $450 million in

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investment. Of course, these are very

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competitive projects that are looking at

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most communities in Arkansas and

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probably other communities in the

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greater region. But we are in the game

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and competing for those, putting our

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best foot forward the best we can. Um,

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since we last met, uh, we did open a new

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expansion project with a local

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manufacturer that's that's needing to

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create over 50 new high-paying jobs in

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our community. U, they just need some

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help working through some logistics and

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some real estate issues, uh, which we

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are helping them with. That brings us up

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to a total of 15 open job creation

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projects, uh, that we're working right

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now. Uh next week we're hosting a site

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visit from an out ofstate economic uh

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development prospect. This will be their

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third visit um to Hot Springs. So things

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are getting pretty serious. Uh the city

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manager has been involved in some of

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those discussions. Um July 31st was a

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deadline to to nominate new opportunity

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zones. So the federal government

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reauthorized opportunity zone program

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for opportunity zone 2.0 is what they're

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calling it for the next 10 years. and

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states had um are able to nominate new

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opportunity zones in their areas. Uh and

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so when this news came out, uh the city

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and the county and the metro

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partnership, the planning development

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district, Visit Hot Springs, we all got

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together to discuss um strategy here and I'm proud to say we put our best

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foot forward in trying to get as many

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opportunity zones in Hot Springs as we

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possibly can. Um the governor has the

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ultimate decision on where to nominate

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opportunity zones. Um and we've got a

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real great advocacy effort um going

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right now. The deadline to officially

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nominate to the governor was July 31st.

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We got some real strong nominations in

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and we should hear more from the

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governor's office um within the next few

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months. Um we hosted the Windows USA

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ribbon cutting at their new facility.

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group. Uh and so wonderful uh that we

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could host that. Just a great story for

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Hot Springs. Um, in business retention

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and expansion, I'm proud to say it's

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been a major focus for our organization

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this summer, especially with Gary

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Jackson, since workforce development is

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slower when the schools are out. Um, we

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are now up to 74 business retention and

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expansion visits year to date. Um, and

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so that concludes my report. Happy to

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answer any questions.

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>> Any questions of call? Director Garcia.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. in the uh five leads

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of manufacturing,

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how important is the uh water supply to

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what they're looking at?

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>> I would say three of the five uh real

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high water capacity was very very

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important and of course with all of them

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having access to water is extremely

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>> Director Trustee. Thank you, Mayor Cole.

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now, do they expire at the end of the

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guarantee that those even those will be

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>> Director Web.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Out of the four

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that were resubmitted, are are three of

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those, excuse me, out of the four that

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were submitted, are three of those to

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continue the three that are currently in

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place or they new?

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Hearing none. Thank you.

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>> This time we'll hear from our city

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manager, Mr. Bill Burrow.

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>> Uh, thank you, mayor, members of the

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board. Uh, want to start off welcoming

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several new employees to the city of Hot

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Springs. Daniel Malsh in our planning

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and development as a permit clerk.

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Marcus Reed is a 911 operator in our

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police department. Lucas Roads, a

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records clerk in our police department.

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Steven Barber coming in with solid waste

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as a commercial helper driver. Uh,

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several utilities employees, Howard

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Carter and water distribution. Mark

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Richard, Zachary Wood, and sewer list

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station technicians Hagen Tyler and our

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utility billing AMI tech. We also had

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several promotions uh since our last

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meeting. Alexander Lee promoted to Hot

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Springs Police Department officer first

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class. Uh Aaron Combmes was promoted to

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corporal. Matthew Cham was uh promoted

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to sergeant. And Eddie Fleming over in

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animal services was promoted to animal

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services supervisor.

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driver in solid waste. A couple others

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in uh Lance Graves uh moving into a

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supervisory role in our weld shop. A lot

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of steel in in that particular

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department. So that's a a really big uh

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task, but congratulate Lance on being

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able to move into that role. Joshua

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House promoted to street division crew

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leader and then Tyler Gwyn was uh

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promoted to a truck driver in the street

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division. Also want to recognize uh

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Sergeant Chris Atkins and the Hot

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Springs Police Department. August 31st

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will be his last day with us with 28

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years of service serving the uh

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citizens, residents, visitors of the

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city of Hot Springs. Just a a really

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great great guy, great officer, going to

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be sorely missed. Uh 28 years of uh

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strong dedication. So we we wish uh

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Sergeant Atkins well in his uh in his

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future endeavors.

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Water's been a big topic with the heat

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that we've been under for the last

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couple of weeks. Uh I don't know if

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you've seen in the news, we've got

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several cities throughout Arkansas that

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are either in strict conservation,

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uh volunteer conservation,

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uh watering. If your address is an even

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number, you water on an even day. If

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it's odd, you water on an odd day. And

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then there's others that just got a

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complete moratorum on on lawn watering

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or vehicle washes, any of that. Um, I

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can tell you that as of July 31st, had

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we not had this new plant, we would have

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been back where we were in 2012 where we

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would see tanks falling quicker than we

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can fill them up. Um, we have no uh

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volunteer or mandatory conservation.

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We're in very good shape with both of

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these plants and supplying water. But

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had we not had it, you know, and we

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[clears throat] said this several times

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moving through that, the only thing

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different today than 2012 is we have a

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lot more users on the system and better

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weather and you just can't depend on

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weather on whether you can provide water

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um on a peak day to your to your

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customers, to your residents. So, want

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to point that out. Um that goes back to this board and your prior board just

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having the wherewithal to uh to build

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this new plant and it is paying off. We

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see it today and we'll see it for years

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to come.

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We've had the cooling shelter open at

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the community resource center. Um this

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past weekend they had several uh that

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were partaking in that. it. Of course,

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it's open from 8:00 to 5:00 Monday

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through Friday, but on these hot

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weekends, if it's going to be over a

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hundred, we're going to have it open on

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the weekends as well. I know Saturday,

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this past Saturday, they had 47 check in

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for for the cooling shelter. Um, had

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another 16 join right around lunch. So,

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had 63 there for Saturday. Uh, they're

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able to to take a shower, wash closed,

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have lunch. uh coming back on August the

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16th. They had another 48 uh that were

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there and and were able to take part in

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the hygiene facilities there at the

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community resource center as well. Um it

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will be open this coming weekend, August

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22nd and 23rd, uh from 10:00 a.m. to 400

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p.m. They usually kind of migrate from

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there uh over to the Salvation Army um

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during the weekends for dinner there at

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4. Uh so real real happy with the work

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that Chris and and everybody at the

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community resource center is doing. I

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get com I don't have a week go by that I

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don't get a comment about that facility.

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So still doing great work there.

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Uh baseball camp or basketball camp. Hot

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Springs Park and Recck Department is

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partnering with the Memphis Grizzlies

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and National Park College to host a free

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junior grizzly basketball clinic for

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kids ages 6 to 14. That's going to be

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Sunday, September 6 from 10 to 11. And

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it's going to be out at National Park in

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uh what do they call that out there? The

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kettle.

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>> The kettle.

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So, if you're interested uh

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you can get in contact with uh with the

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college and get your uh son, daughter,

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grandchild signed up for for a free

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basketball camp. Kicking the stigma is

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something coming out of the police

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department. uh come out and support the

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Hot Springs PD and various teams as they

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go head-to-head in the sixth annual

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Kicking the Stigma kickball tournament.

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It's law enfor law enforcement and first

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responders versus recovery uh on

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Saturday, August the 29th. Games start

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at 9:00 at Majestic Park at 105 West

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Building. Uh Chief, hopefully you guys

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are going to bring in a win there.

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>> Bringing in a lot of water, sir.

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[laughter]

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>> Uh we do have a burn ban in effect. Um,

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this ban is based on the potential fire

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hazard associated with just low fuel

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moisture levels, dry conditions, and

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little to no precipitation. Uh, it

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prohibits all controlled burning within

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the city limits. All burn permits issued

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prior to the burn ban have been

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rescended. They can be reissued and

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extended when the ban lifts. Uh, the

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burn ban will be in effect as long as

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these conditions are present. Uh we will

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put information out if the chief uh

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calls for a discontinuation of the burn

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ban, but we're going to have to have

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quite a bit of quite a bit of rain to

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get to that point.

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>> Speaking of the fire department, we've

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uh added two new apparatus to the fleet.

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U very happy to report that we have

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received our new ladder truck. It's been

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delivered currently housed at the

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central station on Broadway. Um I'm not

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sure if it'll stay there, if it'll make

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its way out to station six. Uh but that

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is a $2.3 million apparatus

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and those don't come around just every

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day. Um as you know, we had several of

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these on our unfunded uh capital

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projects list and glad to see a couple

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of these coming in. Uh in addition to

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this, we've got a new pumper truck for

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our Park Avenue station. Pumper trucks

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about 800,000. So, uh, glad we've

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received those two pieces of equipment.

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Our fleet director, Grace Bees, is in

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the audience tonight. I know that, uh,

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you've had to check those out pretty

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well and get them out there in service.

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So, appreciate your work as well. Uh,

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Hot Springs Parks and Recck in the early

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stages of creating a little over,300

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square foot outdoor batting cage

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facility at Kimry Park. Uh, we've heard

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that for for several years that they

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wish they had a batting cage there. So,

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it's a live arm full four full four

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multi-lane amenity. Will be a first

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come, first- serve basis, but it'll

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provide a safe net enclosed space for

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individuals and teams of all ages to

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practice hitting. So, glad to get that

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up. Hopefully before now and the end of

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the year, we'll have that built in and

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in play. With that, mayor, I'll be glad

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to answer any questions.

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>> Very good. Any questions of our city

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manager?

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hearing. Now, we'll move on to

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[clears throat]

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board of directors announcements of

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upcoming events. Director Garcia.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. I would like to uh

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announced that uh food for thought,

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their monthly uh food and resource

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distribution will be scheduled uh the

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this Saturday, the 22nd, from 10:00 a.m.

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to 12:00 p.m. at 3:24

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Malvin Avenue. This is hosted by the

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giving team to help individuals and

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families in need throughout the hot

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springs community. They hold this every

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fourth Friday at 324 Malvin. And the

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event provides free food,

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clothing, personal care items, and

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social services resources and

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connections

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to additional resources.

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And uh this is critical for our

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community. Many in our community are uh

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experiencing

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u great needs. Yesterday I u volunteered

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at the community resource center and I

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witnessed uh donations. Uh the Elks

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Lodge came in with donations of toilet

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paper, water, Gatorade, single uh uh

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items of snacks and fruit. And uh we

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prepared and served 155 meals yesterday.

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And a lot of these are veterans. There

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were families with children. It's a big

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need in our community. And I'm so

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thankful we have the community resource

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center because it's providing a big

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need in our community and the food for

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thought Saturday with a resource of food

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and distribution also is part of our

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overall

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community appreciation to help all in

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our community.

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Thank you.

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>> Very good. Director Web.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, same day this

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Saturday for those that attend Food for

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Thought, even if you don't, uh,

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that later that afternoon at 4:00 p.m.

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to 7:00 p.m., you should stop by the

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12th annual Hot Springs Community

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Resource Fair. Uh, this is held at the

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historic farmers market, which is

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located at 121 Orange Street. And the

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12th annual Hot Springs Community

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Resource Fair this year will be held in

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conjunction with the Beerbra Coleman

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back to school bash and Samaritan's Feet

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Ministry shoe giveaway providing an

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afternoon filled with free community

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resources, school supplies, shoes,

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refreshments, and familyfriendly

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activities. So, there's two great events

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to do this weekend. one that morning,

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the food for thought 10 to 12 and then

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one in the afternoon 4 to 7, both taking

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place this Saturday right here in Hot

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Springs, Arkansas. [clears throat] Thank

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you, Mayor.

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>> Director Trusty.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh just a reminder

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about the Hot Springs Chamber bingo

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night. That'll be next Thursday, the

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27th, at 6 PM at the Convention Center,

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uh just across the street from here. Uh

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Thursday, August 27th at the convention

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center, hall D and E for an evening of

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cash prizes, fun and friendly

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competition. Doors open at 5:00. The

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games begin at 6. Tickets are $25 in

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advance. That includes all 20 games, or

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if you wait and buy a ticket at the

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door, if any are available, that will be

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$30 at the door. Every game pays a cash

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prize. The final game is worth $1,000.

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You'll also have the chance to win even

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more by entering the 5050 cash raffle.

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Says, "Please bring cash for bingo cards

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and raffle tickets, but credit cards

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will be accepted for concessions and

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refreshments only. You can contact the

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chamber to reserve your tickets at

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321700

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and that's a week from Thursday night at

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six o'clock."

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>> Very good. Any other uh director Bob

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Smith?

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>> Yes. Well, this one combines fun and um

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for a cause. Join the friends of the

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national park in the celebration of

544
00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:40,080
Bakas, the Roman god of wine and the

545
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,799
arts by raising your glass to help raise

546
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,960
the glass for the Maurice. If you know

547
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,039
the the last bath house that hasn't been

548
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,960
restored is the Maurice. It had a

549
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,200
beautiful roytoft um stained glass

550
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,279
windows that would are up in the top and

551
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,607
they've been lost, broken, damaged

552
00:25:57,607 --> 00:26:00,000
[clears throat] and and this is to uh

553
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,880
help restore those. You can um the

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,440
evening includes curated wines, upscale

555
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,640
bites. It has uh food from the secret

556
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,400
handshake, JNS hospitality, 501 prime,

557
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,320
and the vault. So, it's some upscale

558
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,080
food and you get to vote for the

559
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480
celebrity that wears the best toa and

560
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,279
there is a sexy leg contest that's going

561
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,360
to be there with with local celebrities

562
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,279
to be unnamed. I don't know if I know

563
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,679
any of those. Uh that's going to be this

564
00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:32,159
Thursday, the 20th um at the 315 Park

565
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,520
Avenue. The tickets are $75 and you can

566
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,440
uh reach out to Roxan Butterfield at

567
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200
give.com

568
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,799
for those tickets. Sounds like a fun

569
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:44,000
time and it's only two days away. Wow.

570
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,799
>> Evenings.

571
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,559
>> Any other uh comments?

572
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,400
I want to follow up a little bit on

573
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,799
Director Garcia's comments about the

574
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,720
community resource center and the meals

575
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,200
that they they produce. Rotary Club, Hot

576
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,080
Springs National Park Rotary Club uh had

577
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
a meeting there about a month ago and we

578
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,679
ate alongside all those others that were

579
00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:09,919
there for for food. And uh I had an

580
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:11,600
occasion to talk with Chris the other

581
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240
day. who's here today in the audience

582
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,080
and asked him how much he's spending on

583
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,159
food. He says, "Pat, everybody's been

584
00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:20,799
donating food." He says, "We don't we

585
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,520
spend very little on food and they reach

586
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,919
out and you'll see uh Sally Carter or

587
00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:28,480
others reach out on Facebook what what

588
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,520
their needs are." And there's really the

589
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,480
reason I'm saying this is there's no no

590
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,080
contribution is is too small. uh our

591
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,840
place at my wife and I's place of

592
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,679
business, Hotel Hail, we changed our

593
00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:43,760
hamburger buns. So, we had a few

594
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919
hamburger buns left over, just shy of

595
00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:48,400
four dozen. So, I brought them by last

596
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,360
Thursday, last Wednesday before I went

597
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,000
to Rotary. And and the staff there is

598
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,559
really most appreciative of of all those

599
00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:02,640
type of gifts. So, to the degree that took care of 40 burgers, you know,

600
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,200
that week or the next week. And so if

601
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240
you do have a extra coin and you're

602
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,399
going to your Sam's or Walmart or

603
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:13,279
Kroger's, if you just buy, if there's a

604
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,159
bargain bid bay basket, grab something

605
00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:19,520
and bring it by. It's easy in and out is

606
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
about the easiest in and out that you

607
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,760
can probably hope for. So [snorts]

608
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,360
continue to support the community

609
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,240
resource center. And thank you. There's

610
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,840
no other items of uh Oh, wait. We got

611
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,120
upcoming events here. We got uh going

612
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,919
out a couple months. Uh election day is

613
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:40,080
Tuesday, November 3rd. We meet on the

614
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,559
first Tuesday of every month. So, we

615
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,240
probably don't want to necessarily meet

616
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,399
on that day. Uh move it up to uh Monday

617
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:52,880
the the 2nd possibly or as Bill and I

618
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,320
have talked, you know, if we don't have

619
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,919
much on the business-wise, we could

620
00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:00,880
forego it, but we just want to

621
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,880
contentively have it for Monday. the

622
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,399
first or excuse me, Monday the 2nd or or

623
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:09,520
really try to forego it. Any thoughts?

624
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,720
>> Forgo.

625
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,440
>> Pardon?

626
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,880
>> Forgo.

627
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,240
it. Okay. Well, if we have to have

628
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
a a special call meeting or so, we can

629
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,760
do that. If we can find a date, certain,

630
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,640
but we could do it the next week if we

631
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,360
needed to at the agenda meeting.

632
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Okay. Is that okay, Bill?

633
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,600
>> Yeah.

634
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,120
>> All right. We'll get it out to staff

635
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120
that uh if they've got anything, we'll

636
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,399
try to get it on the meeting before or

637
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:39,120
the meeting after and keep that one keep

638
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
anything off that particular day.

639
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,320
>> Yeah, we get a little jumpy because

640
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,120
there's only so many we've only got four

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,559
meetings left the year and we're giving

642
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,880
one away. [clears throat] So, uh we got we may end up having to have a

643
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,640
special meeting. Okay. Uh moving on to

644
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240
the consent agenda. These are of a

645
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,000
routine nature. They do not merit

646
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,760
individual discussion. So I entertain a

647
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,399
motion, a second to approve the agenda,

648
00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:04,159
>> the consent agenda as represented

649
00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:06,000
director Garcia, seconded by director

650
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,080
trustee. All in favor signify by saying

651
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,480
I.

652
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,880
>> I.

653
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360
Post same sign. Consent agenda is

654
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000
adopted. Now we had one item that was on

655
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,840
the consent agenda. We move to the first

656
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,559
item on new business and that's uh was

657
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,520
item 4 R-26-139.

658
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840
I entertain a motion a second

659
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,880
>> to uh I think I'm sorry. You got to read

660
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880
this. Will you please read? Yeah. So,

661
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440
this is resolution R-26-139,

662
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,880
a resolution setting the time and date

663
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880
of a public hearing on the petition to

664
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480
establish a hot springs municipal

665
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320
property owners multi-purpose

666
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,039
improvement district number 26-75 of

667
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,880
Garland County, Arkansas, Cali Ridge,

668
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960
estate subdivision. We'll need a motion

669
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120
and second to adopt and then we can have

670
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,919
the discussion.

671
00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:49,679
>> Motion to adopt. So, move

672
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:50,240
>> second.

673
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200
>> Director Trustee seconded by Director

674
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,679
Web. And I guess you can provide the

675
00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:56,640
staff report.

676
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,320
>> Yes, mayor. I'll I'll I'll set the table

677
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,000
for this. You may end up having more

678
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,679
questions from Mr. Perry Young who's

679
00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,000
here as well. Arkansas code annotated

680
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,399
section 14-94-101

681
00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:09,919
at seek establishes the uh procedure by

682
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:11,440
which an improvement district may be

683
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,919
formed. Uh this particular improvement

684
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,080
district is coming to you by virtue of a

685
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,039
petition that was filed uh and signed by

686
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,760
all of the uh uh you you have to have

687
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,679
unanimous property owner uh

688
00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:25,760
participation in this. This particular

689
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,000
parcel is owned by by one individual

690
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600
owner, an LLC. Uh so that is the

691
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,279
signature that appears on the petition.

692
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,600
That petition uh was received by the

693
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,840
city clerk on July 28th of 2026.

694
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,919
Uh pursuant to Arkansas code annotated

695
00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,720
section 19-94-106.

696
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Upon the filing of that petition, a date

697
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600
and time of not more than 60 days, not

698
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,159
less than 30 days shall be set for a

699
00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:54,000
hearing before the governing body to

700
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760
hear all of the parties desiring to be

701
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,919
heard uh and for the consideration of

702
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:00,480
the petition. Uh should this uh

703
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,960
resolution be adopted, uh then there

704
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,679
would be a a public hearing uh scheduled

705
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:08,240
September 1st at your regular board of

706
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,519
directors meeting uh at 6:00 pm. Uh this

707
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,039
will be on the petition that's been

708
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,840
filed for the improvement district. Um

709
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240
the petition includes the description of

710
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,559
the property. Uh it's approximately 25

711
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,000
acres. There's a meets and bounds

712
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,360
description that's attached to the

713
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,159
property and for the purposes uh to be

714
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,640
used uh constructing waterwork, sewers,

715
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,480
and other utilities within the described

716
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640
lands as well as for the grading,

717
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
draining, paving, curving, and laying of

718
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,799
streets and sidewalks together with

719
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,320
facilities related to any of the

720
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,679
foregoing. Um so that's that's

721
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:47,279
the background of this. Um this is a

722
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,480
statutory scheme that uh provides a

723
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,640
ministerial duty for the board to to set

724
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640
a hearing.

725
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,240
>> And you said that hearing was going to

726
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,399
be set on September 1st

727
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,080
>> at 6 at 6 p.m. Yes, sir.

728
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,279
>> Was there was there a

729
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,559
an action item under after the hearing

730
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:07,360
for that evening?

731
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,600
>> There would be. Yes. So you would have a

732
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
public hearing and then the action item

733
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,679
on on on the creation of it after you

734
00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,679
have heard from from the parties who

735
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,200
have an interest in in it.

736
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240
>> Okay. So but we're required to establish

737
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240
a a date and time for a hearing.

738
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,279
>> You are sir.

739
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,710
>> Okay.

740
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Director Web.

741
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320
>> Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Um I appreciate

742
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,279
all the clarification be um you know

743
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:35,360
this is for the most part a procedural

744
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,240
matter tonight that uh we have to enact

745
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,519
on by law right to set set a hearing. Uh

746
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,960
but before we do um I asked previously

747
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,399
if any representative uh on behalf of

748
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:50,960
this group is here today and it is

749
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,399
conveyed to me that there is somebody

750
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:55,279
here. So, uh, if we don't have any more

751
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,000
questions amongst ourselves for you, um,

752
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,760
can now be a good time that we call that

753
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,200
person up. Mayor,

754
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
>> again, there's no action items, so

755
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,919
anything we hear tonight will probably

756
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:07,600
hear in two weeks.

757
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,560
>> Okay.

758
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,079
>> Mr. Young, if you would come forward,

759
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,240
this this is Perry Young, uh, attorney

760
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,839
at law representing the, uh, the

761
00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:15,679
petitioner.

762
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,159
>> Good evening.

763
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,359
>> Welcome.

764
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:18,879
>> Thank you for having me.

765
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:21,599
>> Yeah. Uh, Mr. Young, I appreciate you

766
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,079
being here. My name's uh Dudley Webb

767
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,599
III, city director for district 4. And I

768
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:28,960
just, you know, there's some residents

769
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040
in my district, which is where Cali

770
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,639
Ridge is located in district 4, who have

771
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,480
some questions over the potential

772
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,800
creation of this particular district.

773
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,399
and I'm glad you're here tonight to

774
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:43,839
where I can give you some of those

775
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:46,000
questions just so that in between now

776
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,639
and when the hearing is scheduled to

777
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,839
take place I can provide some details to

778
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,720
those who might have questions. Um, I

779
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:56,399
guess I'll start with, you know, as this

780
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,720
was being introduced to us, uh, at the

781
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,640
agenda meeting last week, it was

782
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,240
somewhat compared to that of a POA, um,

783
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,520
if I remember right, uh, and POAS in

784
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,160
typical fashion are made up of

785
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480
homeowners that live in that said

786
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960
subdivision. But it looks as though

787
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,880
based upon what was presented to us in

788
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,520
this packet that the commission for this

789
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000
particular district will be made up of

790
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640
three individuals who don't currently

791
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,640
have a home in that subdivision. So can

792
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,119
you share with me uh and I can give you

793
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,960
the names that were provided to us. It

794
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,440
was Todd Havens, Paula Alderman, and

795
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Daniel or Danielle Barlo, I believe

796
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,240
those three. uh can you share with me

797
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,280
how these three uh were nominated to be

798
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,760
on this commission and if any of those

799
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,160
three live here in Hot Springs or are

800
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,839
intending to live in this particular

801
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:48,960
subdivision.

802
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,280
>> Uh thank you very much. The subdivision

803
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,240
is in the uh initial stages of

804
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,000
construction. Now this allows the

805
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,720
defrainment of some of the construction

806
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,520
costs over a period of years.

807
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,320
Uh it is unlike a PLA in that uh this is

808
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,800
not a recreational improvement district

809
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960
which would continue to collect and

810
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,720
spend money on maintenance and

811
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,520
improvements of ongoing projects. This

812
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,760
is assistance with the construction

813
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,400
costs to keep prices down uh for

814
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,320
affordable housing is what it's going to

815
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,280
be uh in in the long run. And the answer

816
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,240
to your second question is no. Uh they

817
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,280
are uh three people nominated by the

818
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,800
developer.

819
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Uh the developer doesn't intend to move

820
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,359
from where they live. Um I come from

821
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:41,359
Selen County as does the developer.

822
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:44,640
That's our problem, our misfortune, but

823
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,960
that's not the intent.

824
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,359
>> Um thank you. Uh, can the

825
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:55,920
uh commission be changed? Uh, if there

826
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,240
are homes that are constructed within

827
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,320
the near future in this development and

828
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,839
the three that are currently on this

829
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:03,599
commission don't live there, but there

830
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,000
are three who do live there and they

831
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,839
feel like servant upon this commission,

832
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:10,400
can they? And how does that work to do?

833
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,880
>> Not only can they, but pursuant to new

834
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880
law passed by the legislature and Brian,

835
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,800
I'm going to apologize. I don't have the

836
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
exact site on the top of my head, but I [clears throat] think you'll confirm

837
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,760
the commissioners do need to rotate off

838
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160
uh at maximum. My understanding is, and

839
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,480
if I'm getting this wrong, it's two

840
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,800
three-year terms. Uh and you're gone. Uh

841
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,800
and that was to make sure it wasn't kind

842
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,880
of an old crony kind of old boy club

843
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,280
kind of thing. Uh running it. I would

844
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,800
expect that there would be three uh

845
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,079
people within the uh within the uh new

846
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,200
neighborhood that would uh want to step

847
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,440
up. There's not much to it. It's really

848
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680
ministerial. You file a report once a

849
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,280
year and you make sure that the trustee

850
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920
is paid and if somebody's not paying uh

851
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,839
the taxes that are collected by the

852
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:01,760
county assessor

853
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,440
>> uh as part of your special improvement

854
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,839
district taxes uh they make decisions

855
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:07,520
whether or not to pursue any kind of

856
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000
action against those non-paying uh

857
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,520
properties. That's really their only

858
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,160
responsibility. Would would there be any

859
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,000
um legislative stat statute in these

860
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,000
codes to prevent somebody who lives

861
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,480
there from being on this commission?

862
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,480
>> I haven't found any, but

863
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,720
>> no. Okay.

864
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,480
>> We would encourage it and I would think

865
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,720
those would be the people with the most,

866
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,176
you know, the most uh skin

867
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:33,119
[clears throat] in the game, if you

868
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:33,599
will.

869
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,720
>> Um it was also mentioned u Mr. Young

870
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,119
that there are some examples of this

871
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:40,560
particular type of district, the

872
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,040
multi-use district that are in Benton.

873
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,280
Um, however, I'm not seeing any details

874
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,800
of that in our packet. And how does

875
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,280
someone learn more about those districts

876
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920
that are in Benton? Uh, is there any

877
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,320
information about those is the question.

878
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,599
And then the second one, um, is were

879
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,000
these districts also created by this

880
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,800
same development

881
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,839
company? two of the three were that I

882
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:10,160
have been involved in as council. I sit

883
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800
as commissioner on improvement district

884
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,599
number 131 of uh Benton. Uh we in part

885
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,760
of developing Hurricane Lake of which

886
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,800
I'm a member. Uh it's my side gig from

887
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,160
practicing law I suppose. Uh

888
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,839
knew what the process was, believed in

889
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:29,680
it, got myself in the middle of it, put

890
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,440
myself on as commissioner, and I really

891
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,640
do hope to retire off soon. Uh but I can give you two sources besides Mr.

892
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,880
Albbright uh that might be of some

893
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,599
uh comfort if you will. Uh one is Ray

894
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,200
Owen. This has not only been done in

895
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Benton or any other county. I know Mr.

896
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,839
Owen has formed in in the in the past uh

897
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:54,000
several improvement districts or been

898
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,839
instrumental in in forming them. And the

899
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,079
other is the bond council that we hire

900
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,480
to make sure that everything is uh the

901
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,880
tees are crossed and the eyes are dotted

902
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,720
as far as the debt that is being uh if

903
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,000
you will collected by the county

904
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
assessor for their 3% fee and forwarded

905
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,040
to the trustee for forwarding on to the

906
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,079
bond holder and that is Hartzell Reagan

907
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,440
Rh over at the Gil firm up in Little

908
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,440
Rock. Uh we've worked with them twice

909
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,240
before. I've also on my own worked with

910
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,680
uh the uh Friday firm on setting them up

911
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,119
and I I know the uh right Lindsay

912
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,160
Jennings firm does them as well. So this

913
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,040
is not very esoteric but I know for a

914
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,160
fact there's at least 141 such districts

915
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,079
most of which are these municipal

916
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,520
improvement districts and not

917
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
recreational districts in Selen County

918
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,800
and that number is 75 here in here in

919
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,839
Garland County.

920
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:54,079
>> Well yes sir. Um the

921
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:55,760
details that we have are stating that

922
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,720
there's about 250 active uh improvement

923
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,640
districts in 20 counties around

924
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,119
Arkansas. Are you familiar if any of

925
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,960
those are defined as multi-use

926
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,119
improvement districts or would they have

927
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,000
some label such as, you know, sewer

928
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,920
infrastructure improvement district or

929
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,920
so forth?

930
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,680
I don't know what the I'm I'm not going

931
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,280
to tell you I know what the ratio is,

932
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,079
but I know that most developers uh when

933
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,920
they write a check to a contractor,

934
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640
they're looking at what um the total

935
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040
improvements are, not just one element.

936
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,280
And and that seems to be I don't know if

937
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,440
there's a trend, but I can tell you

938
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,839
anecdotally that they are the majority

939
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:38,319
of the newly formed ones. And I I'll

940
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:41,680
spend an hour at the uh Selen County uh

941
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,920
circuit clerk's office. I'm excuse me

942
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920
the Selen County county clerk and the

943
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Benton and Bryant city clerk's office

944
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,760
and I'll do the same thing here in

945
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Garland and probably provide you with

946
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,440
dozens of them but I'll be happy to Is

947
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,119
that where it gets its name like the

948
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,119
multi-use is that because there are many

949
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:00,640
uses for this particular type of

950
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,119
district being created and that's if

951
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,680
that's the case yeah what what are its

952
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,079
intended uses for this district being

953
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:08,800
created

954
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,280
>> towards which type of infrastructure

955
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,760
sorry

956
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,680
>> towards the extension of existing

957
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680
utilities and the buildout of utilities

958
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560
within the uh the subdivision. And

959
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,400
again, it's wholly owned by the

960
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,440
developer at this point. And our goal is

961
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,520
along with the contract buyer Lenar,

962
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
which you may know to be the successor

963
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000
to Rous Coleman, that's already part of

964
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,560
their agreement. And Rash Coleman, now

965
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,680
Lunar has okayed it. And Mr. Albbright,

966
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,359
I have letters saying that they've

967
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:38,800
received it. They don't need certified

968
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,680
mail copies. Um

969
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,359
now the the other detail [clears throat]

970
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:46,319
here is that this type of district may

971
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:49,839
be used to borrow money um to construct

972
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,960
this infrastructure. Uh

973
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,440
if that's the case, uh how does that

974
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,160
said money get paid back? Who does that

975
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,400
fall on? Would that be uh something

976
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,880
that's incorporated into interest that's

977
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,000
picked up by potential future property

978
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480
owners within the subdivision?

979
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,680
uh could it be uh their you know the

980
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
price or value of their property goes up

981
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
because there are existing debt loans

982
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,040
out on infrastructure. How how does it

983
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,920
get paid back? It lowers the the barrier

984
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,040
to entry for moderate priced housing uh

985
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,319
in that part of your development costs

986
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:32,319
are not uh obtained, you know, plus

987
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:34,160
whatever a reasonable profit might be.

988
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,720
But it part of your development costs

989
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,280
are being deferred, paid back over a

990
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520
20-year amortization,

991
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,160
uh, where they're being, uh, charged,

992
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,000
uh, no greater, pursuant to the

993
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,440
agreement with Raj Coleman, uh, $600 per

994
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,440
year per lot.

995
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,200
>> Okay. So, the three that are currently

996
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,960
on the commission would have the say as

997
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,119
to how much is to be borrowed and how it

998
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,480
is to be paid back, or where does that

999
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,800
come from? That's the resolution that's coming next. Once we get the

1000
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
appraiser, we excuse me, I meant to say

1001
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,720
assessor. Once the assessor is sworn in,

1002
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,119
once the commissioners are sworn in, we

1003
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,200
have a limit that's pre-imposed by

1004
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,839
contract with uh, as I said, Raj

1005
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:16,640
Coleman,

1006
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,160
>> is that going to something that's

1007
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,079
included in our packet prior to the

1008
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,319
hearing, too, or can that not be

1009
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:25,040
established until you have a formal

1010
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,535
multi-use district? that's

1011
00:44:26,535 --> 00:44:27,280
[clears throat] going to be established

1012
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,119
after the district is established.

1013
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:29,440
>> Yeah.

1014
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,880
>> Because the other part that I noticed is

1015
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,040
that you know if and when any such

1016
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,359
establishment were to be approved such

1017
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:39,520
as this multi-use of uh

1018
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,000
>> multi-purpose um district once approved

1019
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,920
the city has no legal authority over the

1020
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,760
district. So what exactly does that

1021
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,480
mean?

1022
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,000
>> Well you really don't have any legal

1023
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,280
>> would there be any need to have any

1024
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,560
authority and what might that be?

1025
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,839
>> You don't really have any legal

1026
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:56,666
authority over it now. Um it

1027
00:44:56,666 --> 00:44:58,240
[clears throat] it has to be established

1028
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,400
uh this way in order for them to do do

1029
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,640
an assessment uh just like you would on

1030
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,400
a water improvement district or sewer

1031
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,760
improvement districts. And that goes on

1032
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,680
the tax roles. And so the property

1033
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,760
owners going forward on each one of

1034
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920
those lots pay their taxes and the

1035
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,319
assessment to the collector. That money

1036
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:21,430
is then used to pay off the debt.

1037
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
» Thank you. Uh I'm just looking over my

1038
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,599
notes. I'll pass the mic.

1039
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:26,800
>> Director Garcia,

1040
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,640
>> thank you. Uh, some of the residents uh

1041
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,720
had questions because they didn't

1042
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,640
understand everything. They didn't know

1043
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,599
if they needed to come to the hearing

1044
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,160
once we set the hearing date. And uh,

1045
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,280
who does the clerk submit the money to

1046
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,720
once they the county clerk collects the

1047
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,079
money? Who do they submit that to? Uh

1048
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,079
usually there's a trustee involved or at

1049
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:55,760
least a paying agent. It can be

1050
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,920
Centennial Bank. They do that. Pilaski

1051
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Bank and Trust, whatever they're called

1052
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,839
now, uh does that. Uh Allan King of

1053
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:05,680
Improvement District Inc., which I'm

1054
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,839
sure Mr. Owen has worked with dozens of

1055
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:10,640
times, he will act as a non-fiduciary

1056
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,400
trustee, meaning he doesn't have to go

1057
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,160
sue people if they don't pay. That's

1058
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,800
optional. Uh and that's the real only

1059
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,400
difference there between a paying agent

1060
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,119
and a trustee. But that's who your

1061
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,079
county collector pays.

1062
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:28,240
>> And uh who pays this assessment or or

1063
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,400
tax?

1064
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,800
>> The residents per lot for a designated

1065
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,920
period of time.

1066
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,040
>> So it's only the owners that buy lots or

1067
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
homes [clears throat] within Cali Ridge.

1068
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,880
>> Absolutely. Is that correct?

1069
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,280
>> 100%. It has a defined geographical

1070
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,319
perimeter

1071
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:50,000
>> and uh I'm familiar with the developer

1072
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
taking care of the POA until there's

1073
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,160
over 50 or 55% of uh owners and then

1074
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,680
they have the option to uh take over the

1075
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:09,119
POA. But this would stay in TAC until um

1076
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,480
whatever the amount to be paid back is.

1077
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,560
that how that works?

1078
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,800
>> Yes. As I understand it, our contract

1079
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,920
purchaser does not want POAS in their

1080
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,079
subdivisions. What they

1081
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,560
>> do allow for is this to assist with the

1082
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,319
initial development costs.

1083
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,880
>> So, it's only for the infrastructure of

1084
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,839
the initial development and then once

1085
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:34,640
that's paid off,

1086
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,079
uh it's there's no more assessment.

1087
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:39,520
>> Correct.

1088
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,599
>> Okay. And uh that's all handled by the

1089
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:47,839
clerk and this uh improvement district

1090
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:50,240
once it's established. Is that correct?

1091
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,839
>> Really, it's the clerk and the trustee

1092
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:52,240
the

1093
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,240
>> or the trustee for the improvement

1094
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:54,800
district.

1095
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,480
>> The commissioners meet once a year to

1096
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,480
approve the transparency report which is

1097
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,800
filed with the state and really there's

1098
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
not much more than that usually.

1099
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,480
>> And once this is done, uh what is the

1100
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,599
city's role? city has no role

1101
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,200
>> or no expense.

1102
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,640
>> It has no expense.

1103
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,040
>> Thank you.

1104
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,839
>> Well, I'll I'll clarify that. Uh once

1105
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,920
the assets are are constructed and

1106
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,079
they're dedicated to the city, then the

1107
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,079
city has go, you know, ongoing

1108
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,559
maintenance for that. But they're paying

1109
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:29,760
for all of the infrastructure until it's

1110
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,559
dedicated to the city, which is the

1111
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:35,280
engineer periodically comes to us and

1112
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,880
says, "These assets are being will you

1113
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040
approve to take them over?" And then

1114
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,520
they're in our maintenance. Until then,

1115
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,599
it's the maintenance of the special

1116
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,160
improvement district. Is that correct?

1117
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,960
>> Well, so that the assets are dedicated

1118
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,880
to the city when it's closed out. So

1119
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,640
when when our city engineer brings you a

1120
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,920
list, bear in mind that our water has

1121
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,680
been going through those lines for over

1122
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,000
20 years, sometimes 30 years. And yes,

1123
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,680
we've been maintaining them. That's what

1124
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,119
we do because we charge uh our customers

1125
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,599
not only on&m uh [clears throat] but uh

1126
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:12,559
you know the sinking fund and so that's

1127
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,400
what the money is intended for is for

1128
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,440
the maintenance

1129
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,430
>> on water and sewer.

1130
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,520
But there's no lines in if they don't

1131
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,280
have the infrastructure in there now.

1132
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,359
There's no lines in there being used.

1133
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:29,200
>> They have to put they have to put them

1134
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,760
in.

1135
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,160
>> Yeah.

1136
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,760
>> And and and the money that they're

1137
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,520
wanting to raise from this assessment is

1138
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,599
going to pay for a portion of that. It's

1139
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:39,200
my understanding with your cap of $600

1140
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,280
per year per lot. That's only going to

1141
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,280
get you a little south of a million

1142
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,880
dollars.

1143
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,480
>> That's absolutely correct. And when I

1144
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,319
said nothing, I meant to say there's no

1145
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,720
difference. the dedication to the city

1146
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,880
and the city's acceptance process and

1147
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,040
the time frames, those aren't impacted

1148
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,599
at all by the existence or non-existence

1149
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,880
of a of a uh of an improvement district,

1150
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,160
>> but the developer would pay any fees for

1151
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,040
the that's been adopted by the city

1152
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,920
board for uh water and

1153
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,599
>> Oh, absolutely. They're they're water

1154
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,920
customers just like anybody else. uh

1155
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,480
just like Royal, just like all

1156
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:23,359
>> uh almost our entire water system was developed through improvement over

1157
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:24,960
the years outside the city

1158
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,440
>> from 1972 till today.

1159
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,880
>> Um and so that's the [clears throat] way

1160
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,839
that those have have all gone in

1161
00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:36,319
>> but we won't we were having to do um

1162
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:41,520
work in the uh city municipal

1163
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,440
water

1164
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,720
on billing that we won't this won't

1165
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:47,599
entail

1166
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,160
>> this will not royal is the only one that

1167
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,280
we collect in the in [clears throat] the

1168
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,240
billing theirs is per meter this is an

1169
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,800
assessment like most improvement royal

1170
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,920
is is it's only one that I know of that

1171
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,119
they they base it per meter um all the

1172
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,760
others are assessments on the tax roles

1173
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,839
>> okay

1174
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:09,200
>> thank you

1175
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,640
>> any additional questions [clears throat]

1176
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,920
Director Web.

1177
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,880
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um,

1178
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,680
was was bringing this concept of having

1179
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,400
a multi-purpose district always part of

1180
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,839
the plan or did this just come up? Uh,

1181
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:28,400
is it because there are some added

1182
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,920
expenses that were unforeseen and now

1183
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,000
you're are you looking for a way to kind

1184
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,119
of compensate maybe the fiscal um

1185
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,680
responsibility for it or how how did it

1186
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,079
happen that you want a multi-purpose

1187
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:44,880
district? Now

1188
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,319
>> it it is uh part of uh contracts that

1189
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:53,040
commit you to sell to uh LAR uh when a

1190
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,960
certain threshold has been reached. the

1191
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,160
grading is within 3% of their specifics

1192
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,880
and the streets are in and the water and

1193
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,000
the sewer and the electric and I believe

1194
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,599
even fiber optic. Uh again, every one of

1195
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,359
those things cost money. They don't want

1196
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:13,440
a POA. Uh this was and is the best way

1197
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,510
to lower the uh

1198
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,640
to lower the entry barrier to moderate

1199
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,760
priced housing. uh on the front end.

1200
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,200
>> Okay. Um so be hearing that are there

1201
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,960
any other wouldn't it disclose to us

1202
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,880
that there's zero other multi-purpose

1203
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,200
districts in Hot Springs? I know there

1204
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,040
are you know uh specific districts that

1205
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,839
are in place.

1206
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:42,640
>> I I don't recall there there being one.

1207
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,160
That's not to say that there never has

1208
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,480
been. I I I don't recall one.

1209
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,760
>> Okay.

1210
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,079
Um, most of those, you know, might have

1211
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,200
been done through a POA type of format

1212
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
as opposed to an improvement district.

1213
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,920
>> Okay. So, you were saying this was part

1214
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,599
of the plan the whole time?

1215
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:00,160
>> Yes, sir.

1216
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,640
>> You were planning on uh establishing a

1217
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,000
multi-purpose district?

1218
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,640
>> Yes, sir.

1219
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,119
>> Okay,

1220
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:08,079
>> that's all I have.

1221
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,599
>> Thank you very much. Time. Yes, sir.

1222
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,480
>> Appreciate you, sir. Uh since uh this is

1223
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,160
kind of opened up to people coming to

1224
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,920
the podium, is there anybody in the

1225
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680
audience since this was not a subject

1226
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,640
you could sign up on? If anybody else

1227
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,800
wants to come to the podium and talk for

1228
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,640
three minutes, you're free to do so.

1229
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Anybody once, twice, thrice? Okay. Well,

1230
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,121
next Tuesday we'll have a hearing.

1231
00:53:34,121 --> 00:53:35,200
[clears throat]

1232
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Okay. So, now we'll move on. Oh, we got

1233
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,880
>> call the roll. Yeah.

1234
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,680
>> Or directors uh discussion amongst

1235
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,520
directors

1236
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,280
>> hearing none. Please call the role.

1237
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,000
>> Director Beard

1238
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,720
>> I.

1239
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,760
>> Do Smith

1240
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,240
>> I.

1241
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:52,880
>> Web

1242
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,440
>> I.

1243
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,079
>> Garcia

1244
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:54,559
>> I.

1245
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:55,200
>> Trusty.

1246
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,520
>> I.

1247
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,480
>> Mayor McCabe.

1248
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,440
>> I. Resolution is adopted. Moving on to

1249
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,559
consider resolution R-26-145.

1250
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:03,599
I ask city [clears throat] turn to read

1251
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:04,240
by title.

1252
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,400
>> Resolution R-26-145.

1253
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,160
A resolution authorizing the filing and

1254
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,040
acceptance of fiscal year 2026 community

1255
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,520
oriented policing development microrant

1256
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,599
program funding to support Hot Springs

1257
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,280
Police Department's drone as a first

1258
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,280
responder program. That concludes your

1259
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,400
reading. Mayor, if you would entertain a

1260
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,599
motion second to adopt.

1261
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:22,960
>> Motion moved.

1262
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,839
>> We got director trust trustee seconded

1263
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:28,160
by director web. And our staff report

1264
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,480
will come from none other than chief

1265
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,640
Chris Chapman. Welcome.

1266
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,240
>> Thank you, sir. Appreciate you guys

1267
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:35,440
giving me the opportunity to talk about

1268
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,040
this tonight. Pretty excited about this

1269
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,119
opportunity. So, this is a zero match

1270
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,000
grant. $200,000 fully. If we are awarded

1271
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,920
this grant, it'll be fully funded uh

1272
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,200
with zero match from the city. So, in

1273
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
2022, the Hot Springs Police Department

1274
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,839
had deployed its first drone programs.

1275
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:53,839
Uh our current drone program is very

1276
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:56,720
reactive. Uh it is those drones are

1277
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,520
assigned to either the SWAT team, C or

1278
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,079
our patrol units. And so they are

1279
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,160
deployed after an event has already

1280
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,559
started. Uh take for example if we have

1281
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:08,800
a lost child, uh patrol officers

1282
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,720
respond, they put the drone up looking

1283
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:14,000
for the child. Um if we have a fleeing

1284
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,319
suspect, uh patrol officers get in the

1285
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:18,720
area, we put the drone up. So uh that's

1286
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,040
our current drone program. This program

1287
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,440
is very unique in the fact that the

1288
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,359
primary goal is to launch the drone.

1289
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:29,920
Imagine a helicopter on standby at the

1290
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,640
PD fully wound up ready to go and a 911

1291
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,119
call goes in and that that helicop

1292
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:36,880
helicopter responds immediately. That's

1293
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,119
what this drone program is. It's nested

1294
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,720
at the police department. It's tied to

1295
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:44,000
our CAD system. Uh a 911 call comes in

1296
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,040
and that drone immediately responds. And

1297
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,720
so that's what the program is all about.

1298
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,319
So the primary goal of this project is

1299
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,240
to launch central Arkansas's first drone

1300
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,400
as a first responder. It's called a DFR

1301
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880
program uh by transitioning from our

1302
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,720
reactive current drone program which I

1303
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,359
just described to an integrated DFR

1304
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:04,160
framework. Uh HSB HSPD will

1305
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,599
fundamentally change how critical

1306
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,799
incidents are managed. So fund funding

1307
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:12,079
from the FY26 micro grants program again

1308
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,160
was $200,000 and it'll be used to

1309
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,920
procure advanced drone technology

1310
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,319
infrastructure and software capability

1311
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:21,200
of automated and remote launch upon call

1312
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,599
receipt. The DFR infrastructure will

1313
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,839
integrate seamlessly into our dispatch

1314
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:27,680
center and our new real-time crime

1315
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,240
center. The integration of the DFR

1316
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,319
technology represents a quantum leap in

1317
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:33,760
operational capability of the Hot

1318
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,079
Springs Police Department's uh dispatch

1319
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:38,240
center operations and real-time crime

1320
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,640
center. Again, rather than acting alone

1321
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960
as a tactical asset, the DFR platform

1322
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,799
serves as a mobile airborne sensor

1323
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:46,960
network for the real-time crime center,

1324
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,880
our dispatchers, and our officers,

1325
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,480
creating an unprecedented level of

1326
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,720
situational awareness. So, it really

1327
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:56,079
acts as a force multiplier. It it acts

1328
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,880
as an advanced incident deescalation uh

1329
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
device able to tell us and provide us

1330
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,200
information before we get there. And in

1331
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
precision pre precision dispatching and

1332
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,200
resource allocation, a lot of these

1333
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,720
drone programs that we're seeing across

1334
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,040
the country, the drone will get there

1335
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,640
several minutes before the officers get

1336
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,880
there. They're able to determine what's

1337
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,400
actually going on and instead of us

1338
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000
pushing three or four or five different

1339
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,240
assets there, maybe we only have to send

1340
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,640
one. And so that information is being

1341
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,319
monitored immediately. So how the system

1342
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:29,680
works very quickly. So we receive a 911

1343
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,880
call in our dispatch center. The

1344
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000
technology allows for that 911 call to

1345
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,200
automatically be sent to the drone. So

1346
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,920
as our CAD information is being entered

1347
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,040
by our dispatchers, the drone is being

1348
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,440
sent automatically. Sometimes even

1349
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,880
before we're on the radio dispatching

1350
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,520
the officer. So the drone has the

1351
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,280
capability of 45 to 47 mph. So the

1352
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,040
expectation is that it'll get there

1353
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,599
several minutes before the officer 7

1354
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:01,680
mile range. So it can it can respond

1355
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,119
anywhere in the city from the police

1356
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:06,240
department. And once it gets there, it's

1357
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,520
automatically um cameras down to the

1358
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,200
scene and that information is

1359
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,040
automatically transmitted back to the

1360
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,799
dispatch center, the real-time crime

1361
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:17,040
center, and the officers responding will

1362
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,880
have the capability of seeing that.

1363
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Again, think about the tactical

1364
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,640
advantage that gives us. Uh so

1365
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,680
highdeinition video uh secur uh securely

1366
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,440
to a certified remote pilot. Um so the

1367
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,280
other great thing about this is our

1368
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,640
pilots uh could be in route. Dispatch

1369
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,119
has control of this drone and then they

1370
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:39,280
turn it over to the pilot who is on the

1371
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,760
ground at the time and able to use that.

1372
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,359
So just a number of areas that can be

1373
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,119
used. Crowd and event management. Think

1374
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,200
about our St. Patrick's Day parade and

1375
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,720
the number of people we have downtown

1376
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,280
able to monitor that search and rescue

1377
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,040
again talking about the lost child

1378
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,480
elderly uh person wonders off we have

1379
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,720
that quite often. It also has thermal

1380
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,119
imaging uh imagery which would help us

1381
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:02,960
with fires. Our fire department could

1382
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,200
use it. We could utilize it. Uh natural

1383
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,760
disasters. Uh think about if we have a

1384
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,920
massive ice storm or a tornado and our

1385
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,319
roadways are closed. It takes us time to

1386
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:14,000
cut trees to get in there. We could

1387
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,839
deploy the drone ahead of schedule,

1388
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:17,599
ahead of our work crews to see those

1389
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:20,240
things. Uh traffic deescalation, uh

1390
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,839
deploy the drone, see exactly where

1391
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:23,599
assets are needed, where tow trucks are

1392
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,680
needed or ambulances are needed. And of

1393
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,599
course, officer safety and suspect

1394
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:29,520
tracking. That for me, that's the number

1395
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,520
one thing. We're putting information out

1396
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,040
there during a critical incident so

1397
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,559
those officers are more aware what's

1398
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,799
going on. Uh if there's a guy hiding

1399
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:38,640
behind a car with a shotgun, we're able

1400
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,160
to see that with a drone before those

1401
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,160
units uh those officers step out of

1402
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,720
those units. So, response speed, I told

1403
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,400
you guys how fast it responds.

1404
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,119
Deescalation, again, we're giving real

1405
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:50,720
information, updated information to

1406
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,799
those officers as they respond. Uh,

1407
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:54,240
maybe it's a mental health crisis and

1408
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,079
not a true disturbance, and we'll be

1409
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:57,359
able to see that and pass that

1410
00:59:57,359 --> 00:59:59,760
information along. Obviously, missing

1411
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
persons, there's a multitude of of ways

1412
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,839
that can be used. Now, I want to tell

1413
01:00:03,839 --> 01:00:06,480
you what it's not maybe, so that'll help

1414
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,400
answer some of the questions. So, it's

1415
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,960
incident driven only. So, this is not

1416
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,200
patrolling for us. It's not just up

1417
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,960
there randomly turning corners in the

1418
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,359
sky looking down to see what's going on.

1419
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,200
We're sending it somewhere sending it

1420
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,280
somewhere based on a need. Okay. No

1421
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,359
facial recognition. All right. I know

1422
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:27,280
that's a big concept right now. The

1423
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,359
software integrates for automatic uh

1424
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:31,280
does not integrate for biometric

1425
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,559
tracking. Um strict evidence purging.

1426
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:36,559
So, noncriminal footage is obviously

1427
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,720
purged. policies will be in place where

1428
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,880
that information is deleted and then

1429
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,359
public accountability. Uh there will be

1430
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:45,839
a place on our website where we show the

1431
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:47,200
number of deployments, the type of

1432
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,599
incidents it was deployed to. So that's

1433
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:51,680
how it will be used. Be glad to answer

1434
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,799
any questions.

1435
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:55,599
>> Any questions, Chief? Director Garcia.

1436
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,559
>> Thank you, Mayor. Chief, uh we know that

1437
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,200
you have dispatchers

1438
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,680
around the clock working and you have

1439
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,160
officers around the clock. Uh what about

1440
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,040
the crime center analysts? Are they

1441
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,760
working around the clock or do you need

1442
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,559
uh more resources there?

1443
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,400
>> No, ma'am. So, our crime analysts, we

1444
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,000
have one full-time and one part-time

1445
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,799
crime analyst. Now, they work as needed,

1446
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:23,520
but primarily during the day. Each day,

1447
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,000
the information from the overnight um

1448
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,839
incidents is pushed to them so they can

1449
01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:29,839
catalog that, build out reports, start

1450
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:31,200
putting the puzzle together, so to

1451
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
speak. But currently they're primarily

1452
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,359
dayshift ma'am or as needed.

1453
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:39,280
>> So if this came in while they weren't on

1454
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,400
u duty then u they it it could still be

1455
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,280
dispatched.

1456
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,839
>> Absolutely. So the again multipitude of

1457
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,839
ways to dispatch it primarily from the

1458
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:52,240
dispatch center. So the dispatchers will

1459
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,559
actually own the drone so to speak uh

1460
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,880
from that initial call that 911 call

1461
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,880
comes in the GPS coordinates they're

1462
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,440
loaded in the CAD right. So techn is

1463
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,599
fantastic. Works smarter not harder. Um

1464
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,760
but that information from the cell phone

1465
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,160
call, the 911 call that's automatically

1466
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,920
populated in our CAD system, which is

1467
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,319
our computerenerated dispatching system,

1468
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:14,480
that's also being sent to the drone. And

1469
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,319
so it's automatically sent. The

1470
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:18,240
technology is absolutely amazing. Again,

1471
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,839
imagine that helicopter sitting on top

1472
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,240
of the police department, right? And and

1473
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,319
then they can turn the operation of the

1474
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:25,520
drone. and they can either maintain

1475
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,119
operational capabilities within the

1476
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,359
dispatch center or they can turn it over

1477
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:31,359
to one of the drone operators, pilots,

1478
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:34,480
FFA licensed uh pilots that we have on

1479
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,680
each shift.

1480
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,720
>> Okay. Thank you.

1481
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,359
>> Yes, ma'am. Director Web.

1482
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:42,160
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um and Chief, I'm not

1483
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,119
trying to steal any of our thunder by

1484
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,040
this being projected as a potential

1485
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680
project to launch Central Arkansas's

1486
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,680
first drone. I remember you bringing

1487
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,240
that up even in our uh agenda meeting,

1488
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,640
but I I do have a question that can give

1489
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,280
us some pretty serious data that I I

1490
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,520
think you're prepared to give us. uh

1491
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,599
with the other drones that are similar

1492
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,640
to what we are considering to pass here

1493
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,040
tonight being in operation and other law

1494
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,920
enforcement agencies, how much real time

1495
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,920
or real data is available uh to share

1496
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,720
with us here tonight to show how these

1497
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,960
drones can bring safety, better safety

1498
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,400
for our officers. Uh which in essence, I

1499
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,480
guess, allows for more preparation going

1500
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,760
into a scene to apprehend suspects. Uh

1501
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,359
that's part one. Part two, how much data

1502
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:35,760
is available to see to witness to show

1503
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,319
that there is safety being or an

1504
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:40,480
extended offering of safety being

1505
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,359
provided for potential victims to allow

1506
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:46,240
response time to not only maybe increase

1507
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,359
but to know how to respond?

1508
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:52,000
Can you share with us any of that?

1509
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,559
>> Yeah, so obviously we don't have we

1510
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:56,720
haven't created the data for hot springs

1511
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,640
because you know it's a it's a tool,

1512
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,240
right? And so we still have people

1513
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,319
making decisions on the ground. So that

1514
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:04,400
data is not here. But from the programs

1515
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,359
that do exist, uh, Chula Vista, several

1516
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:09,359
other, you know, cities that have used

1517
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:11,440
the programs, one of the biggest stats

1518
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,839
that I am just absolutely amazed by is

1519
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:17,440
the 20% on average reduction in calls

1520
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,880
that officers actually have to respond

1521
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,680
to because the the drone is providing

1522
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,440
that real life information to the

1523
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,760
dispatch center and we're able to negate

1524
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,920
some of the the multiple officer

1525
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,400
response to events. So, that's huge to

1526
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,520
me. Uh but again, take for instance,

1527
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,440
we're responding to that that active

1528
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,760
shooter event. And you know, an active

1529
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,599
shooter event, everybody and their

1530
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:41,440
brother is going to that event. Not just

1531
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
HSPD, but Arkansas State Police, Garland

1532
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,880
County Sheriff's Department, National

1533
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,400
Park Service, anybody with a gun and

1534
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,480
badge is going. But if we have that

1535
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,119
drone over the top, instead of mass

1536
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:54,240
chaos, everybody kind of showing up and

1537
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,240
not knowing what to do, we're able to

1538
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,920
see ahead of time before those officers

1539
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,920
get there, start directing to them to

1540
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,760
where the bad guy is or where the

1541
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,760
critical issue is and pushing those

1542
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
resources there. So, we know that works.

1543
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,920
We've seen that with our current drone

1544
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,039
program. Uh on on average, the drones

1545
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:13,200
are responding in in a minute to a

1546
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,280
minute and a half. Our average response

1547
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,839
time is about three minutes to a call uh

1548
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:19,119
quicker than that to a critical

1549
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,280
incident. But again, so you're you're

1550
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,599
doubling your your speed capability to

1551
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:25,920
being overhead providing information

1552
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,680
that is giving us such a tactical

1553
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:33,359
advantage. uh whether that's for a to a mental person, a subject in a mental

1554
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:35,839
crisis where we know that hey there's

1555
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:37,520
not a weapon involved. He's he's just

1556
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,440
having a mental crisis. We can slow down

1557
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,680
the response, have EMS coming in instead

1558
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,119
of a number of officers that would

1559
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:45,200
escalate that situation. So, we haven't

1560
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,119
created our own data yet, but there's

1561
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:48,720
plenty of data out there from other

1562
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,720
cities who have deployed these, and

1563
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,880
they've been deployed, I think, since

1564
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,119
2017 was the first one, uh 2017 or 2019.

1565
01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:58,640
So there's plenty of data out there that

1566
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,640
we can provide to the citizens and then

1567
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,720
we'll do a monthly report. Uh with our

1568
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,960
monthly report, we'll add that data,

1569
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,760
>> you know. Uh thank you, Chief. The one

1570
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,000
thing that I I hear a lot, my my kids

1571
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,559
and I keep up with a lot of um body cam

1572
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:17,680
police videos that are on YouTube u to

1573
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,160
watch. And then just in policing in

1574
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,319
general, I think one line that we hear

1575
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:24,880
are there are good people who just make

1576
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,000
a bad choice.

1577
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,480
>> Yes. So, as important as it is, and it's

1578
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,880
highly important to ensure officer

1579
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,760
safety and victim safety, I think it's

1580
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,559
fair to say that most, if not all, law

1581
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,400
enforcement officers also, when they

1582
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,039
can, want to see the suspect uh

1583
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:42,960
apprehended in a safe manner, too.

1584
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,359
>> Absolutely.

1585
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:46,000
>> Would you say that this drone uh allows

1586
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,960
for the process of apprehension of

1587
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
suspects to be granted a little bit more

1588
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,480
safety being utilized? Well, I think it

1589
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,400
enhances all three of those areas to be

1590
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,160
honest with you. Obviously, we talked

1591
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,480
about the tactical uh safety aspect for

1592
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,640
the responding officers, but also for

1593
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,760
the suspects, uh for the victims. Um you

1594
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,400
know, and and a lot of people aren't

1595
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,000
suspects, they are victims. They're

1596
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,160
lost. Uh this drone would help us find

1597
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,160
them much quicker than sending, you

1598
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,119
know, six officers in a in a grid line

1599
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:18,880
into the woods looking for someone.

1600
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,480
We've got the drone up there with with

1601
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,000
thermal capabilities showing us that,

1602
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,760
hey, there's a subject 100 yards into

1603
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,000
the wood line laying on the ground. We

1604
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,720
can send people to that direct spot. So,

1605
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,559
we're obviously able to help sus uh

1606
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:32,960
victims much faster. But also, yes,

1607
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,280
actually there we we have an obligation

1608
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,839
to protect the suspects as well. Uh and

1609
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:39,760
so if we have that drone overhead, we

1610
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,000
can see where that suspect is, maneuver

1611
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,640
those resources in in a safe manner,

1612
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,480
which allow allows for a safe

1613
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,520
deescalation uh situation where we're

1614
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,359
protecting them as well.

1615
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:52,480
>> Thank you,

1616
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,640
>> Chief. You had indicated that the range

1617
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,039
was 7 miles. I don't Is that because of

1618
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:01,440
radio connection or fuel or

1619
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,160
>> Yes, sir. The the cellular data uh

1620
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,480
connection is about seven miles. Okay.

1621
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,280
Um, if the program is successful, if we

1622
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,640
do what we hope to do, uh, and and show

1623
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,280
proof of concept, uh, eventually we

1624
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,199
would request that a secondary drone be

1625
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:18,960
put in like the south part of the city,

1626
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,880
the south southwest part of the city,

1627
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,759
uh, enhancing our capabilities. Again,

1628
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:26,560
such a multiuse tool for our fire

1629
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,040
department, our our storm crews as they

1630
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,319
go out in these natural weather

1631
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:32,960
disasters. uh such a tool, multi-use

1632
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,040
tool for the entire city and our other

1633
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,359
partners, National Park Service, county,

1634
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,000
uh obviously, you know, our lakes border

1635
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,159
our city limits and think about if we've

1636
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:44,560
got a a drowning victim or a boating

1637
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,400
accident or something like that. So,

1638
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,640
just a great resource to have.

1639
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,239
>> Very good. If there's no further

1640
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:51,440
questions, thank you.

1641
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:52,960
>> I'll make this last statement. Uh,

1642
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,520
Senator Boseman, Cotton, and Congressman

1643
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,440
Westerman have all written letters of

1644
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:59,359
support for this program and so we're

1645
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,679
hoping that DOJ takes notice of that.

1646
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:02,159
So,

1647
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:04,080
>> okay, we got one more question or

1648
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,080
questioner, director, trustee.

1649
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,759
>> Thank you, Mayor Chief. [clears throat]

1650
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:10,480
We discussed this briefly at the agenda

1651
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:13,600
meeting, but as the information comes in

1652
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,440
to the dispatch center and it's entered

1653
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:20,080
into the system, does that automatically

1654
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,640
um send the drone or does someone have

1655
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,560
to push that button say yes, this is a

1656
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,080
drone

1657
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,880
response?

1658
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,960
>> So, it can be deployed either way. The

1659
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,799
technology allows it to automatically

1660
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:33,839
deploy based on certain criteria, but

1661
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:35,199
more than likely we're going to be

1662
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:37,600
pushing that button button. Yeah. And

1663
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,839
then of course all the information

1664
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:41,839
that's being gathered as the dispatcher

1665
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:43,359
is entering that additional information.

1666
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:44,640
Of course that's going straight out to

1667
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,359
our officers. Uh they can transition to

1668
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:48,960
the other pilot who can add additional

1669
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,199
information. So again the technology is

1670
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:53,759
above my pay grade and but it is it's

1671
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:55,520
pretty neat.

1672
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,239
>> All right. Thank you.

1673
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:57,679
>> Very good. Thank you.

1674
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:00,159
>> Thank you sir.

1675
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:01,120
>> Anybody sign up?

1676
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,040
>> No sir.

1677
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,679
>> Discussion amongst directors hearing

1678
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:07,120
none. Please call the role.

1679
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,800
>> Director Dob Smith

1680
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,440
>> I.

1681
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:10,239
>> Web

1682
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:10,800
>> I.

1683
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,520
>> Garcia

1684
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,000
>> I.

1685
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,800
>> Trustee

1686
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,360
>> I.

1687
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,239
>> Beard.

1688
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:15,760
>> No.

1689
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,880
>> Mayor McCabe.

1690
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,840
>> I. Resolution adopted. Moving on to

1691
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,440
consider or ordinance O-26-31.

1692
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,520
I'll entertain a motion and second to

1693
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,080
suspend the rules and read by title.

1694
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,640
>> A motion to suspend the rules. director

1695
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,360
of trustee seconded by director Garcia.

1696
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,880
>> I have a motion and second to spend the

1697
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,280
rules. All in favor signify by saying I.

1698
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,159
>> I. I.

1699
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,640
>> Oppos same sign. Council please read by

1700
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:42,960
title.

1701
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,880
>> Ordinance 0-26-31

1702
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,560
an ordinance amending the zoning map for

1703
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,040
lots two and part of lot three of Sour

1704
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,679
Rock Spring subdivision from RN2

1705
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:53,679
residential neighborhood 2 to CR

1706
01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:55,760
regional commercial zone district.

1707
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,080
Changing the future land use plan map

1708
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,239
from residential low density to linear

1709
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:02,400
commercial corridor to correct a mapping

1710
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,080
error and for other purposes. That

1711
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,960
concludes your reading. Mayor, if you

1712
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,159
would entertain a motion, second to

1713
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:06,640
adopt.

1714
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,440
>> Motion to adopt. Director G. Director

1715
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,760
Adob Smith, seconded by director Trustee

1716
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,679
and staff report will be provided by

1717
01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:15,600
Kathy Salman, planning and development

1718
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,040
director. Welcome.

1719
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,000
>> Thank you. Um, excuse [clears throat]

1720
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,120
me. We have two zoning map errors that

1721
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,719
apply to this land. And Hot Springs code

1722
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:28,800
does establish standards for amending

1723
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,159
the zoning map. One of those is to

1724
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:34,239
correct an error in previous map

1725
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:36,880
amendment action. I don't think we've

1726
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,520
ever had one where there were two errors

1727
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,400
in two different years on one piece of

1728
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,360
land, but here we do. A 2002 application

1729
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,000
to reszone this land to commercial

1730
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,199
included a map which used a now very

1731
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:56,719
faded highlighter to outland outline the

1732
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:00,640
subject land. The board of directors

1733
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,480
approved an ordinance that had no map

1734
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,040
and contains

1735
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,360
what looks like a partial legal

1736
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,840
description of the area that was

1737
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,080
highlighted on the original application.

1738
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,040
Uh there isn't any doc documentation

1739
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,080
that exists to explain why the

1740
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,560
ordinances legal description differs

1741
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,440
from the applicant's map. The area

1742
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:30,239
depicted on the application exceeds the

1743
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:32,960
area the ordinance described, but there

1744
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,840
is nothing in either planning commission

1745
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,880
minutes or board of directors minutes uh

1746
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,159
from that meeting in 2002 to reflect any

1747
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:46,480
amendment of the area being reszoned. In

1748
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:48,320
2004,

1749
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,320
planning commission approved a

1750
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,159
conditional use for a self storage use

1751
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:57,600
and structures on the entire multiple

1752
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,880
lot parcel despite the fact that one of

1753
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,600
the lots was and still is residentially

1754
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,040
zoned. Um self- storage facility still

1755
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,440
is a prohibited use in residential

1756
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:12,159
zones.

1757
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:15,360
Um the meeting minutes from the

1758
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,400
commission's meeting um demonstrate that

1759
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,320
the commission was incorrectly advised

1760
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,480
prior to their vote approving the

1761
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,360
conditional use. And what they were told

1762
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,960
was that because an adjacent lot also

1763
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,800
owned by the same owner as these three

1764
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,360
was already zoned commercial, then the

1765
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,760
residential zoning could be interpreted

1766
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,640
as commercial zoning. Um, that's not

1767
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,760
true. And the zoning map wasn't amended

1768
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,800
after the fact either to reflect that

1769
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,440
interpretation.

1770
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:58,000
The current use on lots one to three

1771
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,199
appears to be vehicle and both storage.

1772
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,199
This storage is in keeping with the

1773
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:07,760
approved 2004 conditional use um which

1774
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,800
specifically approved additional storage

1775
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,760
buildings again even though the mapped

1776
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,800
residential zone prohibited that use. So

1777
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,080
as currently mapped the use that was

1778
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,880
developed subsequent to the conditional

1779
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,840
use being approved um is not lawful. So

1780
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,239
um the

1781
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:33,440
approval standards for map amendments

1782
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,960
cover this situation. The map amendment

1783
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,040
errors affecting lots one, two, and

1784
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,640
three, part of three saw rock spring

1785
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,000
subdivision occurred in both 2002 and in

1786
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,679
2004.

1787
01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:49,840
Correcting the map to zone the subject

1788
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,600
land CR regional commercial will remove

1789
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,360
a nonconformity

1790
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,239
and would allow both the use and future

1791
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:01,600
development consistent with the 2004

1792
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,080
approved conditional use permit. A

1793
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,280
future land use plan map designation of

1794
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,159
linear commercial corridor is consistent

1795
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,360
with the surrounding regional commercial

1796
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,360
CR zoned lands and the future land use

1797
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,640
map should be adjusted to reflect that

1798
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,719
new designation.

1799
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:28,229
>> Very good. Any questions of Miss Sel?

1800
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:29,280
» Director Trustee.

1801
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,560
>> Thank you, mayor. Kathy, this is just on

1802
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,600
the storage units behind the commercial

1803
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:36,000
property.

1804
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,520
>> It It is on two and a half lots that are

1805
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,120
to the immediate east of those storage

1806
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,760
buildings. Takes it over to

1807
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,960
I want to say S Rock Springs Road. Okay.

1808
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,640
Right.

1809
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,520
Okay.

1810
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,280
>> Any additional questions of Miss Selman?

1811
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,640
Thank you.

1812
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,040
>> Thank you.

1813
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,239
>> Did we have anybody sign up?

1814
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:04,880
>> No sir.

1815
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,400
>> Discussion amongst directors

1816
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,239
>> hearing none. Please call the role.

1817
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:11,760
>> Director Webb

1818
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,560
>> I.

1819
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:13,280
>> Garcia

1820
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:13,840
>> I.

1821
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:14,480
>> Trusty

1822
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:15,280
>> I.

1823
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:16,480
>> Beard

1824
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:17,040
>> I.

1825
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,080
>> Bob Smith

1826
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:18,960
>> I.

1827
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,920
>> Mayor McCabe

1828
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,480
>> I. Ordinance is adopted. Our final

1829
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,960
action of the item for this evening is

1830
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,239
to consider ordinance 0-26-32.

1831
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,000
I entertain a motion, second to suspend

1832
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,239
the rules and read by title.

1833
01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:33,199
>> So move.

1834
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:35,040
>> Director Do Smith, second by director

1835
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,080
Garcia.

1836
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,679
>> I have a motion and second to spend the

1837
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:39,520
rules and read by title. All in favor

1838
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,120
signify by saying I.

1839
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:41,679
>> I.

1840
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:43,600
>> Oppose. Same sign. Council, please read

1841
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,159
by title. Ordinance O-26-32

1842
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:47,840
and an ordinance calling for an election

1843
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,360
to be held during the next general

1844
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,719
election November 3, 2026 on the

1845
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:55,120
question of authorizing Sunday sales of

1846
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,520
alcoholic beverages for off- premises

1847
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,600
consumption in Hot Springs, Arkansas.

1848
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,199
That concludes your reading. Mayor, if

1849
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,800
you would entertain a motion and a

1850
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:03,840
second to adopt.

1851
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,360
>> So second

1852
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,440
>> director trustee second by director Dob

1853
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:11,120
Smith and our staff report we provided

1854
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,640
by our city attorney, Mr. Brian

1855
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,040
Albbright. Thank you, mayor. Uh the the

1856
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,360
underlying question here is sale of

1857
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,600
alcoholic beverages on Sundays for off-

1858
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,600
premise consumption. Hot Springs does

1859
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,560
have onremise consumption does not have

1860
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,840
off-remise consumption on on Sunday. Um

1861
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,320
but this is this is a product that comes

1862
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,040
to you through our constitution. Article

1863
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,040
5 section one of our constitution of

1864
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,800
1875

1865
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,640
uh deals with initiatives and

1866
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,560
referendums. that is the right that the

1867
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,360
people uh of this state reserved unto

1868
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,360
themselves when the when the uh

1869
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,679
constitution was adopted and so we

1870
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:50,239
follow that process uh in the form of

1871
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:53,440
petitions. Um al Sunday off- premise

1872
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,679
alcohol sales in Arkansas is governed by

1873
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statute Arkansas code annotated section

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3-3-210

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sub paragraph B. Um, this uh subsection

1876
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,679
authorizes cities to permit Sunday

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off-remise sales for retail sales,

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meaning grocery stores, uh, convenience

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01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:12,400
stores, liquor stores, similar retail

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01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,440
outlets. It does not expand uh the

1881
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ability to to sell beyond the the on

1882
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premise license. So, in other words, an

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,080
establishment must have an on-remise

1884
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,880
license in order to uh I'm sorry, it

1885
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,520
doesn't it's not really what I meant.

1886
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,679
to say is that they have a

1887
01:18:31,679 --> 01:18:34,239
license to sell other than Sundays. Uh

1888
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:36,080
if they if they have a license uh to

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sell other than Sundays, then this would

1890
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apply to them. That have anything to do

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with on premise. Um in looking at the uh

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the law regarding the number of of

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signatures required, it's 15% of those

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,320
uh that uh uh voted for voted in the

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,840
governor's race at the last general

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01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,640
election. uh here in in Garland County

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those numbers uh in Hot Springs were

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13,020.

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So so the number that must be reached is

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1953.

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On August 5th, 2026, the city clerk's

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01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,199
office received a petition uh and began

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the verification of the signatures on

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01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:16,719
that uh with the county clerk's office.

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Um once the requisite number of

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01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:22,000
signatures were verified and certified,

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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,159
our uh pro procedure here in Hot

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01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:27,679
Springs, Hot Springs Code section 1-2-1

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01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:30,560
uh 1.5 deals with referendums and

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initiatives. Uh and it states that once

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01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,679
those signatures are uh received, an

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election shall be called. The election

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,719
is called pursuant to Arkansas code

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3-3210B

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uh which states um that the election

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under this subsection on the Sunday sale

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question shall be held in accordance

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with the procedures established for

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onremise consumption. So our our

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,679
legislature gave us a statute for

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01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:02,159
off-remise consumption and told us to

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01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:04,400
follow the procedure under for the

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,120
election that is established under the

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,760
onremise consumption which is 3-9-201

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at seek. When we look to 3-9-206,

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it states that the election shall be

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01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,800
called by order of the quorum court in

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accordance with section 7-11-201

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at seek, which is a statutory scheme

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that uh codify amendment 7 to article 5

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section one of the constitution.

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So in any event, uh the law says that

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when you get the signatures, you call

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for the election, but it also says that

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the manner uh includes asking the quorum

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01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:46,159
court to also call the election. I

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question whether or not that is

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01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,960
absolutely positively required. However,

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uh belt and and suspenders and wanting

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,480
to to preserve the right that was

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01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,400
reserved to the people under the

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constitution to have their referendum on

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,840
this law. uh part of uh the ordinance

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01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,320
that's before you includes a request for

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,880
the county to also uh call this

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,679
election. So, in looking at the uh the

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01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:16,560
ordinance itself, um there were 1957

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,600
signatures that were certified. Uh those

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01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,239
uh will be going to the uh county clerk

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01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:24,159
as well as the commission, the election

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01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:28,080
commission. Um

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01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,719
and we request that u the quorum court

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01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:37,590
also call such a such an election.

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It does not expand as I said only if you

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01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,440
already have a license uh to sell on the

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other days of the of the week would you

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be able to sell on Sunday.

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» Any questions of Brian?

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Director Web.

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» Thank you, Mayor.

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,480
I'm just sitting here thinking of how to

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01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:06,311
ask these questions. So, um

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01:22:06,311 --> 01:22:07,199
[clears throat]

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I I think you've tried to maybe answer

1965
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:13,679
some of the questions that I have. Um

1966
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,679
because the initial thought for me upon

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01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:19,440
seeing this on our agenda last week was,

1968
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:22,880
you know, um the body of people that

1969
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,360
took this action for this particular

1970
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,400
initiative to get signatures and file

1971
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,600
all the necessary filings had nothing to

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01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,239
do with the city board of directors. So

1973
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the question for me is why are we even

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,080
seeing this item here before us? And

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it looks upon first glance, it looked to

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,480
me like having this in front of us looks

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01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:49,840
like a measure to have us show

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,639
favorability for this particular ballot

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01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:54,320
initiative when in my opinion we should

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01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,199
remain neutral and allow the people to

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01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:00,239
vote their mind without any input from

1982
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:04,400
the city. Um, would that be right or

1983
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,679
wrong is the question. And I guess the

1984
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:13,040
follow-up question to that is if the

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01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,199
signatures that were needed to be

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01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:18,080
obtained were obtained by the group of

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,679
said people for this particular

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01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:21,520
initiative,

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,159
would they not be able to get it on a

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01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:26,639
ballot without having anything passed by

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01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:30,080
the board of directors or quorum court?

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01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,639
>> Okay. Um, yeah, I think there's

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01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,840
basically three questions there and I'll

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01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,600
if [clears throat] I miss some of them,

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,480
follow up on this. Okay. The reason that

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01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:41,920
it's coming to you this way is because

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01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,600
this is way the Constitution says it

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,400
comes. Article 5, section one of the of

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,880
the Arkansas Constitution says if there

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01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,880
is a petition filed with the requisite

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,040
number of signatures, you will put it on

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,440
the ballot. People don't put it on the

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01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,000
ballot. The the governing bodies put it

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,199
on the B. have to call for the election.

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01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:03,360
Okay, they they they've sought the

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01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,040
election. They've they've reached the

2007
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,040
number of signatures. And so our first

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01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,239
statute that we looked at is 33210B,

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which says uh that an election on Sunday

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,840
sale question shall be held in

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,199
accordance with procedures established

2012
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:20,480
on prem for on premises elections.

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01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:22,960
Okay, that's what we have to send to the

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:27,040
county because 39206

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,639
says that they also have to call the

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01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:31,280
election.

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,600
Our our initiative and referendum

2018
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,239
section of of our ordinances, our code

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01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:39,760
that we adopted that or again article 5

2020
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,600
section one of the constitution says you

2021
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,320
do says that when we receive that that

2022
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,239
requisite number of signatures, we call

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01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,400
the election.

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,040
Um,

2025
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,440
>> we're not endorsing the election.

2026
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:54,000
There's nothing in here whatsoever that

2027
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,360
shows any indication of how we want

2028
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,040
people to vote or that you're in favor

2029
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,719
of it. One iota. This is merely to call

2030
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:05,440
the election so that the people, the

2031
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:07,040
registered voters of the city of Hot

2032
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,199
Springs can vote on the measure.

2033
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:13,120
>> Um, having listened to all that, if um

2034
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,679
would uh it also have to be passed in

2035
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:17,600
quorum court to be placed on the ballot?

2036
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,520
Is there not any way that this

2037
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,199
particular measure could make it onto a

2038
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:24,239
ballot without the passing of our board

2039
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:26,239
in a quorum court or one of the other?

2040
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:27,920
>> It has to be. It has to be by this

2041
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,000
board. But again, it it's a ministerial

2042
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,440
act kind of like we were talking about

2043
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,280
with the other petition. When you

2044
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,560
receive petitions of referendum pursuant

2045
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,960
to the constitution, you act on that.

2046
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,880
Otherwise, you're sued for mandamus.

2047
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:41,600
>> Right.

2048
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,120
>> Um so this is a ministerial duty for you

2049
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,600
to call for the election. I'm not

2050
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,159
convinced a thousand% that the quorum

2051
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:52,800
court must also do it, but the other

2052
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,719
cities who have followed this statutory

2053
01:25:54,719 --> 01:25:58,719
scheme in 2024 also send it to their

2054
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:01,760
quorum courts. Um, so again, as a belt

2055
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,679
and suspenders

2056
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:06,239
abundance of caution, I think that that

2057
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:09,600
they should be asked to to also pass uh

2058
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,520
a measure to put it on the ballot. So,

2059
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,440
it's it's your uh belief that the

2060
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,120
petition

2061
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,679
did obtain all necessary and that this

2062
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:21,760
was confirmed by city and county clerk,

2063
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,199
right? I mean, all the all the ballot

2064
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:24,960
signatures were there. So, it's your

2065
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,719
position that uh if the board were not

2066
01:26:28,719 --> 01:26:31,360
to act on this by calling an action that

2067
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:32,800
there could be lawsuits against the

2068
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:33,280
city,

2069
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,239
>> it's called a mandamus. Well, uh, what

2070
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:38,719
could happen if the board, even though

2071
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:41,040
it's coming to us, said, "No, we don't

2072
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,719
want it on the ballot." Would there be

2073
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:44,560
any violation of the constitution in

2074
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,800
doing that?

2075
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,560
>> It would be it would be a mandamus,

2076
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:49,760
>> like voting no.

2077
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,520
>> Yeah. If you if you don't put it on the

2078
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,239
ballot, um, the petitioners would have

2079
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:57,199
grounds to sue for mandamus to force you

2080
01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:00,480
to to fulfill your ministerial duty. Uh

2081
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:02,960
the packet did show a number of cities

2082
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,679
that were successful

2083
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:08,719
uh with this one being Fagatville,

2084
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:10,159
Rogers, looks like Bentonville and

2085
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:13,040
Springdale. Are there any who have

2086
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,800
completed this process, put it on the

2087
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,960
ballot, and it wasn't successful?

2088
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:17,520
>> Uh

2089
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,880
>> to your knowledge?

2090
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,480
>> Not to my knowledge.

2091
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:22,480
>> How has any kind of ballot measure like

2092
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:25,120
this ever been uh presented to voters in

2093
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,320
Hot Springs before?

2094
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,239
>> No. We we had we had the local option uh

2095
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:33,040
just for Sunday sales on on premise. Uh

2096
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,080
but the off- premise came along with uh

2097
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,040
the act was uh

2098
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,679
let's see act 294 of 2009

2099
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:45,920
um open this up to where you could have

2100
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,880
off-remise consumption sales for

2101
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,480
off-remise consumption.

2102
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:59,120
>> So is it is it then your um belief and I guess testimony. We're using legal

2103
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,440
terms that this isn't an ordinance on

2104
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,120
our agenda to alleviate this group from

2105
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,120
having to do further work to get it on

2106
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,280
the ballot, like cutting some red tape,

2107
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,679
per se. Are we alleviating that group

2108
01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:14,400
from do from any additional work to get

2109
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,000
it placed on the ballot? You know,

2110
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,960
providing a uh an expedited process for

2111
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,120
the group. Are we doing any favors to

2112
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,520
this group or are we just following the

2113
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,560
constitution?

2114
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,400
>> We're just following Yeah. First of all,

2115
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,440
I never testify before you

2116
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:31,199
ever.

2117
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:32,880
Um,

2118
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,679
we we are doing our best to follow the

2119
01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:38,080
Constitution that requires us when we

2120
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,679
receive the requisite numbers of a

2121
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:42,239
petition for referendum or initiative

2122
01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:44,239
that we call an election.

2123
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,320
>> So, we're not doing we're not providing

2124
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,080
any favors for this group.

2125
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:48,639
>> Absolutely.

2126
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:50,080
>> Is that what you're saying?

2127
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,960
>> This isn't out of the norm, per se?

2128
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,159
>> No, sir. In your opinion? Okay.

2129
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:57,840
>> No, sir. there uh over the you know uh

2130
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,280
the the last 27 years there have been

2131
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,199
petitions that have that that have come

2132
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:05,440
to the city clerk's office and I think

2133
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:10,880
in every instance whether it was Lance Hudnull uh whether

2134
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,000
you know they have attempted to do

2135
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,199
everything that they could to assist

2136
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:20,639
them in the procedure but there's no

2137
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:22,320
favoritism here.

2138
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,880
>> Okay. Thank you.

2139
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,400
Director Garcia.

2140
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,400
>> Thank you, Mayor. I interpreted this

2141
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,400
that uh we were just doing what was

2142
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,840
constitutionally correct. We're not uh

2143
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,719
in favor or not in favor. We're just

2144
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:40,320
putting

2145
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,600
what we're supposed to do to pass this

2146
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,080
to be on the ballot. But the county

2147
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,679
clerks already done the verification

2148
01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:51,840
that the signatures, they've met

2149
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,360
everything. In the same vein that the uh

2150
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,320
state attorney general puts things on

2151
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,719
the ballot statewide, they're not

2152
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:04,560
endorsing anything, they're doing their

2153
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,120
uh what they're supposed to do to verify

2154
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,000
and get on stat statewide ballots. I

2155
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,159
don't see us doing anything different.

2156
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:15,840
Each member of the board will vote how

2157
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,480
uh their conscience wants them to vote.

2158
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:22,159
And we're not doing anything out of

2159
01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:25,600
ordinary uh for business in that this

2160
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,000
was a citywide

2161
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,520
um petition for it's just applying to

2162
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,360
the city limits in its current form to

2163
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,920
be voted on by the city residents.

2164
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,400
However, I'm not opposed for it going to

2165
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,480
the quorum court, but the county won't

2166
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,719
be voting on this, just city. Is that

2167
01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:47,040
correct?

2168
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,719
>> It will be city-wide election, not a

2169
01:30:48,719 --> 01:30:51,280
countywide election. Um I I think that

2170
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,560
the the perhaps the reason uh that the 33210

2171
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:02,159
uh ended up sending us to the 39206 [clears throat]

2172
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:04,080
is because the election commission is an

2173
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,520
arm of the county

2174
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,280
>> and they're the ones that put uh

2175
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,199
everything on the ballot and they need

2176
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:11,520
the they have to have this to put it on

2177
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,760
the ballot. Our vote.

2178
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:14,719
>> That's right.

2179
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:17,679
>> Okay. And so your your vote to put it on

2180
01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:19,760
the ballot is certainly not a vote in

2181
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,199
favor of the measure.

2182
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:24,159
>> Yeah. It's not for or against. It's just

2183
01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:26,159
to follow the constitution.

2184
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:27,920
>> And you know, if if you're against the

2185
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,790
measure, then you vote no at the polls.

2186
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,280
» All right.

2187
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,040
>> Or if you're for it, you vote for it. If

2188
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:36,639
you're not, you vote against it.

2189
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:37,199
>> Right.

2190
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:39,360
>> But it's city residents that will vote.

2191
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,440
>> That is correct.

2192
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:42,719
>> Director Web.

2193
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:45,360
>> Thank you, Mayor. um based upon the

2194
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,239
outcome um let's say it is you know on

2195
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:52,239
the ballot um um if the measure fails

2196
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,880
there's there isn't any action uh and

2197
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,719
this is through the vote of the people

2198
01:31:56,719 --> 01:31:58,719
at the ballot if the measure fails there

2199
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:00,880
isn't any action the city does if the

2200
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,880
measure passes will this be something

2201
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,080
that comes back to the board to uh amend

2202
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:06,880
codes

2203
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,880
>> yes thank thank you for bringing that up

2204
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,040
and I I mentioned that in in passing I

2205
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,000
think at the end of uh uh the uh the

2206
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,800
VARF u if the voters approve the ballot

2207
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,080
measure, the board would need to amend

2208
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:19,840
the city code sections pertaining to

2209
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,320
Sunday sale of alcohol for off- premise

2210
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:23,920
consumption. And of course, the reason

2211
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,920
for that is because it's prohibited now,

2212
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:26,320
>> right?

2213
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,639
>> Um so you would you would have to amend

2214
01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:31,760
your codes in order to deal with that.

2215
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:32,159
>> Okay?

2216
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:35,520
>> In order in order to give u give me to

2217
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,159
what the people have have enacted,

2218
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:41,199
>> right? So to clarify, this is a vote

2219
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:43,440
just to place it on the ballot to be

2220
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:45,760
given a choice to the people, not so

2221
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,920
much to vote in favor or against it.

2222
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,920
>> That's right. It is it is purely

2223
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:50,719
ministerial.

2224
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:52,239
>> Right. Thank you.

2225
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:54,560
>> We have one individual who signed up to

2226
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,360
speak on this, Mr. Tyler Draper. Please

2227
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,719
come forward. Restate your name,

2228
01:32:58,719 --> 01:33:05,270
address, and district, please.

2229
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:06,800
» Good afternoon, y'all. My name is Tyler

2230
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,920
Draper, uh, district 5 chairperson for

2231
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,679
the, uh, keep our dollars in hot

2232
01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:14,480
springs. So, uh, to clarify, we're a

2233
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,000
ballot question committee. We're

2234
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,199
registered through the ethics

2235
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:20,000
commission. We've reported all of our,

2236
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,520
uh, donations. We've taken about $35,000

2237
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,080
from Walmart and had, you know, support

2238
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,679
from uh, many places across Hot Springs.

2239
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:31,760
We already have al Sunday alcohol sales

2240
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,760
in the city. you just have to go drive,

2241
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,639
drink there, and then try to get back

2242
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:39,280
home. This puts it on the ballot and

2243
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,840
will allow the people to vote for or

2244
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,960
against having the freedom to buy at a

2245
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,080
store and take it to your house. This is

2246
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,520
not anything. Nobody gave me any favors.

2247
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,360
I've done background checks. I've sworn

2248
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,080
affidavits, followed all the new laws

2249
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,000
from the Secretary of State, turned in

2250
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,760
everything. uh no favors. Uh we've had

2251
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,679
stores that support it, stores that

2252
01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:08,800
oppose it, and uh that's fine with us.

2253
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,440
Let's put it to the people, and uh

2254
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:13,520
they'll decide if we can get it there.

2255
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,159
So, uh to be on the general election, we

2256
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:17,600
had the choice. We could have done this

2257
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,880
and put it on the primary election when

2258
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,280
the issue for y'all being paid was on

2259
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,199
there, but we decided, hey, we're going

2260
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:26,719
to put it on the general election to

2261
01:34:26,719 --> 01:34:29,520
make sure we have, you know, the correct

2262
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,440
turnout and everybody gets their chance.

2263
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:35,040
So, uh, we followed, in my opinion, we

2264
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,719
followed all the laws. We've done

2265
01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:40,000
everything right ethically. And uh I

2266
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,040
don't see uh any any favors and I would

2267
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,320
just like for the city and the county to

2268
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,920
put on the ballot. We could have had

2269
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,560
this countywide, but the amount of

2270
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,360
signatures and the amount of time we

2271
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,199
decided, hey, let's just try it in the

2272
01:34:55,199 --> 01:34:58,000
city first and if we're successful,

2273
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,080
maybe it could go to the county in

2274
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,960
another attempt next time. If we fail,

2275
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,520
oh well, so be it. zone. Uh we just want

2276
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,520
the people to decide for uh we're a

2277
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,360
tourism town. People come here from

2278
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,639
Texas and Tennessee all the time and get

2279
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:15,440
blindsided at the store on Sundays

2280
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,400
because their states already do this. So

2281
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,639
that was that's our plan is to make us

2282
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:22,880
competitive with other uh states around

2283
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,440
us and give people, you know, more

2284
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:27,760
freedom and less hassle. Thank y'all.

2285
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,679
>> Any questions to Mr. Draper?

2286
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:33,600
>> Thank you.

2287
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,080
discussion amongst directors,

2288
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:37,120
director, trustee.

2289
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,120
>> Thank you, Mayor

2290
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,600
Brian. Being a former banker, I'm all

2291
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,000
about belts and suspenders. I get the I

2292
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,920
get the principle there. But on 97, page

2293
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,639
97 of our packet, it talks about the end

2294
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:54,639
of that uh paragraph A, it says or.

2295
01:35:54,639 --> 01:35:59,280
>> Yeah. And so it really is just

2296
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,920
doing what the other folks have done and

2297
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,840
having the quorum court call the

2298
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,600
election also.

2299
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,639
>> Yeah. So um [clears throat] I apologize

2300
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:14,960
for this in in some our barf goes into a system called I compass.

2301
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,440
>> Okay.

2302
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:21,199
>> And so sometimes the ores and the the page breaks and the so forth don't

2303
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:24,000
always jive up. Okay. Um, so the or

2304
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,600
under paragraph, see that's supposed to

2305
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:31,199
be a one and then or there was a two. B

2306
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:33,360
doesn't go with A. B stands by on its

2307
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:33,760
own.

2308
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,199
>> Okay.

2309
01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:37,280
>> So, it would have been clearer had I

2310
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,639
just left A out.

2311
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:39,120
>> Gotcha.

2312
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,600
>> Um because that's where we are.

2313
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,360
>> All right. I don't have any problem

2314
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,320
asking court to place it on the ballot.

2315
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,719
Thank you,

2316
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:49,679
>> Director Web.

2317
01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:52,800
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, Brian, does this

2318
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,000
cost city any to put it on the ballot?

2319
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,760
Isn't there some cost involved to put a

2320
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,360
measure on the ballot to be voted on?

2321
01:36:59,360 --> 01:36:59,840
There would be.

2322
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,679
>> And if it's a cost, where does that come

2323
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:02,320
from?

2324
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,000
>> General fund.

2325
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,920
>> Okay. Would it not be upon the

2326
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,920
responsibility of the party who's

2327
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,719
bringing the referendum to us to pay for

2328
01:37:10,719 --> 01:37:12,320
the cause to put it on the ballot?

2329
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,360
>> It is not.

2330
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,920
>> Is it not at ever any time to do that?

2331
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,480
What what is the cost in approximate

2332
01:37:22,480 --> 01:37:22,960
value?

2333
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,679
>> Um we had an estimate the last election

2334
01:37:25,679 --> 01:37:25,920
um

2335
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,480
>> about $1,800. Is that what you said the

2336
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:28,880
last time?

2337
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,400
>> It depends on what else is on the

2338
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,639
ballot. The um the Garland County

2339
01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:34,320
Election Commission will take everything

2340
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,159
that is on the ballot and divide that up

2341
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:38,400
between the school district, the city,

2342
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,800
the whatever's on the ballot.

2343
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,119
>> And and and so in a general election, it

2344
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:45,199
should be less than it would be in a

2345
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:46,560
special

2346
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,639
>> special.

2347
01:37:48,639 --> 01:37:50,400
Okay. Would it I mean would it be

2348
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,040
$160,000?

2349
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,320
>> Okay.

2350
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,760
>> Usually three four.

2351
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,550
>> Yeah.

2352
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,000
» No other questions. Please call the

2353
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,679
role.

2354
01:38:03,679 --> 01:38:04,800
>> Director Garcia.

2355
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:05,520
>> I.

2356
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,159
>> Trusty.

2357
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:06,719
>> I.

2358
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:07,440
>> Beard.

2359
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:08,080
>> I.

2360
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:08,960
>> Do Smith.

2361
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:09,360
>> I.

2362
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,000
>> Webb.

2363
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,480
>> I.

2364
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:11,760
>> Mayor McCabe.

2365
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,440
>> I. The ordinance is adopted and the item

2366
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:18,800
will be put forward to the voters.

2367
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,600
Um that concludes the action items that

2368
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,760
we will act on today. There we're under

2369
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,280
board uh items for discussion.

2370
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,960
Board members have any items they'd like

2371
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,229
to discuss?

2372
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:37,520
Hearing none. We do have a uh public

2373
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,239
comment session after for a couple

2374
01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:43,760
reports, but uh Director Garcia.

2375
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:47,440
>> Thank you, Mayor. I move to adjourn.

2376
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:48,960
Second

2377
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,199
>> director web seconded. All in favor

2378
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,119
signify by saying I. I.

2379
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:56,159
>> I post same sign.