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[0:04] On 30, we're going to go ahead and get started.
[0:09] Hello, and welcome everyone. We did start early tonight with an executive session to interview applicants for boards and commissions. As such, we will now resume our normally scheduled public meeting.
[0:18] Would like to take a moment. Welcome everyone who is here in attendance tonight as well as those who may be watching remotely via the ACTV video feed.
[0:27] As such, we will resume with Section 3. Would you please stand and join me for the pledge of allegiance.
[0:37] Thank
[0:52] you everyone.
[0:53] We'll move on to Section 4.
[0:55] Roll call, Mrs. Wheeler.
[0:56] Will you please call the roll?
[0:58] Mr. Bainwegg.
[0:59] Dr. Bird.
[1:00] Mr. Foster.
[1:01] Here.
[1:01] Dr. Gets. Here.
[1:02] Mrs. Heeter.
[1:03] Here. Mr. Cualseke.
[1:04] Here. Mr. Sutton.
[1:06] Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler.
[1:07] We do have a quorum tonight with all seven members of Council of President.
[1:12] As such, we will move on to Section 5, approval of the minutes.
[1:17] Item A is number 25-009-8 and it will include the August 5th, 2025 meeting and workshop minutes.
[1:27] As such, do we have a motion to accept the minutes as provided?
[1:30] Move to accept the minutes as provided.
[1:33] Thank you, Councillor Banweck.
[1:34] Do we have a second?
[1:34] Second.
[1:35] Thank you, Councillor Heter.
[1:36] Is there any discussion on the minutes?
[1:40] Councillor Burt?
[1:41] I was not an attendant, so I will be abstaining from the vote.
[1:46] any additional discussion on the minutes? Seeing none. Mrs. Wheeler, will you please roll
[1:52] call the vote? Mr. Bainway? Yes. Dr. Bird. Mr. Foster? Yes. Dr. Gets, Mrs. Eater? Yes. Mrs. Kualsky? Yes.
[2:02] Mr. Sutton? Yes. Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler. The approval of the minutes does pass by a vote of five
[2:10] favor with two abstentions. As such, we will close section 5 and move on to section 6 for
[2:18] proclamations. Item A is 25-0099. It is a special recognition for Colt Nellman. I will read
[2:27] this proclamation in its entirety. Special recognition of Colt Nellman, whereas Colt Nellman won the
[2:34] of local Master's World Champion during the 2025 International soapbox Derby event held in Akronahile
[2:42] on July 19th. And whereas Colt joins a very prestigious and short list of competitors,
[2:49] being only the second champion in the event's 87th year history to hail from Hudson, Ohio.
[2:56] And whereas standing six feet one inches tall with size 13 shoes, Colt has been confirmed
[3:01] by the official historian of the All-American soapbox derby to be the tallest champion in the
[3:06] events history. And whereas Colt has been racing soapbox derby cars since he was seven years old,
[3:12] and has achieved many accomplishments. However, this was Colt's first heat when
[3:17] ever that eventually led to his world championship and stands as a testament to his tenacity
[3:23] to keep trying and to never give up. And whereas Colt's time and dedication to the sport
[3:29] along with the support of his family and friends are a further testament to the results
[3:33] that can be obtained by not only hard work, but also unwavering perseverance.
[3:39] Now therefore I, Jeffrey L. Amzvino, may of the city of Hudson do hereby recognize Colt
[3:44] Nelman for his outstanding accomplishment at the 2025 International Silk Box Derby event,
[3:51] and furthermore I encourage residents, families and friends of our youth to show up, be
[3:56] President and support their goals, dreams, and accomplishments.
[4:01] In witnessware of, I have here on to set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Hudson
[4:05] to be fixed on this 19th day of August, 2025.
[4:12] Are there any comments from Council?
[4:16] Councillor GANS?
[4:17] Just want to congratulate all the participants and hard work.
[4:23] Councillor GANS.
[4:24] Additional comments from Council?
[4:26] Councillor Bammoy?
[4:26] Yes.
[4:27] Just a hard day.
[4:28] congratulations to you. I know that there's a lot of good work, hard work that's gone into it and the legacy that you're carrying on, is one to be proud of. So thank you all who helped.
[4:40] I accomplish this.
[4:42] Thank you council.
[4:43] VanWag additional comments from council.
[4:46] Any comments from staff?
[4:49] I would like to say briefly that this is the second time that I'm recognizing cold a couple of years ago.
[4:56] I gave him one of my special recognition certificates and one of my...
[5:00] All right, 365 day challenge coins. Because I heard about him helping out a student in school that was not being treated so kindly. So he went above and beyond. He showed up and he helped that student.
[5:14] And that student has since moved away, but I do know that he is doing extremely well in school and socially. So Colt, you may have had a part in helping that young man, you know, to continue to improve and be a better person.
[5:27] and deal with things that he has been thrown his way.
[5:32] So after I heard about the soapbox derby,
[5:34] I'm like, we gotta do something even better, right?
[5:37] So the next level of accommodation
[5:40] that anybody can get from the city is a mayoral proclamation.
[5:46] So that is what we have here tonight.
[5:48] And Colt, just so you know, you will be officially
[5:50] in the records of the city of Hudson for lifetime.
[5:55] this will be on record and congratulations to you and your family and there's no additional
[6:02] comments. Colt, I would please welcome you to come forward and officially accept the
[6:06] proclamation.
[7:03] Thank you more pictures.
[7:04] Thank you.
[7:06] Thank you.
[7:48] As such, we will close section six and move on to section seven, which is public comments.
[7:56] As such, council and myself value and respect comments from the public, aligned with the
[8:01] and it's 220.03 titled rules, item G, subtitled decorum.
[8:07] I'm kindly asking everyone in attendance to remain respectful of the process and display courtesy,
[8:12] professionalism, and order at all times.
[8:14] Please mute your electronic devices, and if you must leave the room prior, to the completion
[8:18] of our meeting, please do so as quietly as possible.
[8:21] Also per ordinance 220.03 and sub item G, public comments are to be kept within five minutes.
[8:27] There is a device on the lectern that has lights.
[8:30] It will light up green when that five minute starts.
[8:32] It will turn orange at one minute remaining.
[8:36] At 20 seconds it will start blinking before it turns red
[8:38] to signify the end of your five minute time.
[8:44] Therefore, our per the city of Hudson Charter Article 3,
[8:46] Section 3.02.
[8:48] If there is any resident of the municipality here tonight
[8:50] who would like to speak to city council,
[8:53] regarding any topic that's relevant to the city of Hudson,
[8:56] kindly raise your hand, gain my attention,
[8:58] And as you are verbally called upon, please approach the lectern, state your name and address,
[9:02] and counsel will hear your remarks, as such as anyone here tonight who would like to speak
[9:07] to counsel.
[9:13] Good evening.
[9:14] My name is Linda O'Neill, and I live at 7063 St. Ives Boulevard, and I have been a 37-year
[9:21] resident of Hudson.
[9:24] I'm here tonight to share in the public record, a letter that I wrote to that all of you
[9:31] received from my position as as Chair Park Board and last night my board was in agreement and
[9:42] they asked me to read this into records so that you all understood that all of Park Board
[9:47] was in support of my letter. We realized that this has already gone to the board of elections
[9:53] took a be on the ballot in November, but we thought this was an opportunity.
[10:00] Community for us to at least share with the community our position on this ballot issue. My letter is dated July 24, 2025 to Hudson City Council members mayor in the charter review chairman. I just read the charter review recommendation presented on July 15 for the merging in the park board cemetery board tree commission and I wanted to share my thoughts on the subject with you all.
[10:24] The combination of these boards commissions will dilute the specific purpose intended for each of them.
[10:30] With 12-year serving on tree commission, I know their focus is the health of our urban forest, street trees,
[10:38] educating the residents on proper tree care, educating our children through our today,
[10:43] and supporting the arborists with current tree inventories.
[10:47] Cemetery board advises the city on public cemeteries and maintaining their historical
[10:53] goals, significance, and preservation.
[10:56] Park Board oversees the improvement and maintenance of our park system that includes developed
[11:00] parks, undeveloped parks, and elsewhere, golf course.
[11:04] We also take an active role in supporting groups and organizations looking to raise money
[11:08] to support our park improvements and goals.
[11:12] Currently, the number of members and yearly meetings for the three board's commissions are
[11:15] as follows.
[11:17] Tree Commission has five members that meet six times a year with the Arborist.
[11:21] Cemetery boards five members meet four times a year with city staff. Park board seven members
[11:27] average about eight meetings a year with special meetings called when necessary with city staff.
[11:33] Park board currently has five members with the recent resignation of one member and the other
[11:38] not requesting re-appointment. Mike Casper, my vice chair and I discussed trying five members for a year
[11:44] to see if we were able to manage the workload. We would appreciate the option to go back to seven
[11:49] any year if we find it more efficient. I have shared this with Karen.
[11:54] Turtle reviews recommendation for the new board would be 7 to 11 members.
[11:58] If the goal of this revision is to decrease the number of volunteers, couldn't that be accomplished
[12:03] by reducing tree commission and cemetery board down to 3 and keeping park board at 5 for
[12:10] a total of 11 volunteers or 13 with the allowance of the option requested above.
[12:16] This would let all three vital recommending bodies to focus on their area of expertise and would provide council and the residents with the best information and guidance possible.
[12:27] Given that this issue has already been formally recommended by the Charter Review Commission and is headed to the Board of Election for ballot approval, I am hoping you will take into account the points I have made before finalizing the decision.
[12:41] Now I understand that you all, it's not a decision, it goes right from Charter Review to Board of Elections.
[12:49] But thank you for considering my opinion, these individual boards are an important long-term
[12:54] success for our exceptional community. My 20 years of experience volunteering for our city makes my
[13:00] perspective unique. Please feel free to reach out if you would like any further feedback from me.
[13:05] As I wrote this letter to you originally, it was from me personally, but with Park Board's approval last night, they wanted me to share it that it's their opinion as well.
[13:16] So thank you.
[13:17] Thank you, Linda.
[13:20] Additional comment.
[13:21] I saw a few hands here.
[13:32] Good morning.
[13:32] This is a good afternoon.
[13:34] Good morning.
[13:34] Good afternoon.
[13:35] It's a fantastic.
[13:37] I live at 76 zero eight.
[13:39] in a cookway in Hudson and I am the owner of the veterinary center of Hudson,
[13:44] Bed and Barck and Dogg's style all in town and I want to talk to all the
[13:48] council in particular about the proposed zoning change impacting animal care
[13:53] businesses in town. So Mayor council members, thank you for the opportunity for
[13:58] letting me to speak today. I see him before you as an invested property owner
[14:02] in business partner who purchased land in district two precisely because it
[14:08] allowed multiple commercial uses, including veterinary supervised boarding and day care and grooming.
[14:15] We were assured by city staff and community development that our plans aligned with existing zoning and we proceeded in good faith to expand our businesses here in town.
[14:26] Just to give you a little timeline on what's going on with this.
[14:29] In January, we had a pre-application meeting with all city officials involved and indicated that our intended use was appropriate for the site.
[14:36] We've relied on that guidance to invest time, capital, and professional services toward a conditional use application, this April.
[14:45] Due to the negative feedback at the meeting, we opted to withdraw the application and determine if the costs to develop the property and applying for the conditional use was going to be permitted for the planning commissions requests.
[14:59] We are at the end of the meeting.
[15:00] Specifically seeking options to reduce the cost and see if this is still a feasible option at this location.
[15:06] In 2021, a nearly identical venture was permitted in this very district without any restriction on animal services.
[15:14] That precedent shaped our decision to go forward and look at developing this site, knowing the city supports and benefits from responsible care operations.
[15:22] The impact of the proposed change, the sudden zoning revision removes animal-related uses from parcels like ours.
[15:30] More importantly, no one from the city contacted me, knowing that I was actively pursuing a conditional use permit and district to, that this was a proposed zoning change.
[15:44] This relates to my veterinary business, the veterinary center of Hudson,
[15:48] bed and bark, and dog vasyl.
[15:50] All three businesses located in Hudson.
[15:54] I will not be able to expand the way that this bill is written
[15:58] and how it is located at all.
[16:01] It has to be a 500 foot setback for veterinary services in District 7,
[16:06] which is where my current properties are located.
[16:09] If you allow this zoning change to occur,
[16:11] And does this lead to other commercial uses also being removed from this district at another
[16:16] time?
[16:17] The consequences are immediate and severe.
[16:21] So we must either relocate and curing the cost of land acquisition, design, permitting,
[16:27] and construction all over again.
[16:29] Or we have to look to sell our existing property on Prospect Road with a reduced value.
[16:36] Because now commercial uses for veterinary boarding, which we had planned to use, are no longer allowed to go in district 2.
[16:45] This for fits a significant investment in our site improvements in the approvals that we went through currently.
[16:52] The other option is viable without substantial new capital, and we are not venture back developers with deep pockets.
[16:59] We are local, small business owners striving to grow three businesses in town.
[17:05] A reasonable request for your support.
[17:08] Is it too much to ask that the city mitigate this hardship?
[17:12] We urge you to consider the following measures.
[17:16] Establish a small business transition fund.
[17:18] Offering low interest loans or grants to cover the moving cost,
[17:22] Engineering fees and permit expenses.
[17:25] Offer reimbursements for all engineering and site plan development costs
[17:29] for our conditional use application that was impacted by these
[17:32] and zoning changes.
[17:35] Compensate the property owners for any diminution to land value,
[17:39] directly attributable to the new restrictions,
[17:42] and recognizing that this regulatory shift
[17:44] feels akin to a partial taking.
[17:47] In closing, we understand that the city's desire
[17:49] to shake long-term land use,
[17:51] but fairness demands you respect investments
[17:53] made under the existing code and guidance by city staff.
[17:57] Animal care business is like mine,
[17:59] serve the resident's needs,
[18:00] and we feel like you may be pulling the rug out
[18:02] underneath us and it jeopardizes our business ventures. It undermines the trust in the city's
[18:08] development process. Although the city claims to be business friendly, I feel like nothing in
[18:12] this zoning change helps the current business owners in these districts. We ask you to work with
[18:17] us, help maybe fast-track the approval process for bed and bark, dogs with dial and the vet center of
[18:24] Hudson at a new site in district six or eight provides some tangible financial assistance on
[18:30] the commitments that the city staff has made and in doing so you'll demonstrate that Hudson
[18:35] values its small businesses and stands by the assurances that it gives people.
[18:41] Thank you for your time.
[18:43] Thank you, doctor.
[18:48] Additional public comment tonight.
[18:53] Crazy.
[19:01] Before I start I just want to say congratulations call that that's very cool.
[19:07] Hello, my name is Tracy McCuy.
[19:09] I live at 52.30, Noel Shire Drive.
[19:13] I am the president of League of Women Voters of Hudson,
[19:16] and today I speak to you as their representative.
[19:20] The League of Women Voters of is a non-partisan organization.
[19:24] We do not endorse or oppose candidates or political parties.
[19:28] However, we are a political organization
[19:31] in the sense that we advocate for issues
[19:35] that we have studied extensively.
[19:36] As an example of our advocacy is the arm school personnel position for which I led a two-year
[19:46] state-wide study. Today I am using the arm school personnel study as a parallel to the third
[19:54] reading of ordinance number 25-91 offered by Mr. Foster.
[20:00] This is an ordinance amending codified, amending codified ordinance section 672.02 to comply with state law, which authorizes designated individuals to carry concealed handguns in government buildings.
[20:17] Based on our study, the regulations and considerations for arming personnel, we suggest
[20:23] are determining parameters, transparency, stakeholder views, funding and liability, storage,
[20:33] personnel selection, and training.
[20:36] These practices are pertinent to Hudson Ordnance number 25-91.
[20:43] We understand that the world has changed and that there are threats to public figures.
[20:50] And since Ohio law allows for handguns to be carried in the government buildings,
[20:56] this ordinance could be used to mitigate risk.
[20:59] We ask you to take care in making this decision.
[21:04] In the interest of time and attention,
[21:06] And I'm going to paraphrase sections of the Ohio Revised Code and a section of the Hudson
[21:11] Ordnance 2591.
[21:14] The Ohio Revised Code does not authorize a licensee to carry a handgun in government buildings
[21:19] unless the governing body with authority over the building has enacted a statute, ordinance
[21:28] or policy that permits the licensee to carry a concealed handgun in the building.
[21:34] The proposed Hudson ordnance does not authorize a licensee to carry a concealed handgun in government buildings, unless the city council president has issued a policy that permits a licensee or qualified adult to carry a concealed handgun in such buildings and has placed that policy on file with the city chief police.
[22:00] We ask you to consider who decides who is armed, the Ohio code states the governing body
[22:09] with authority.
[22:11] Hudson ordinance, as proposed, states City Council President, the League of Women voters
[22:17] of Hudson recommends that the Hudson ordinance mirror the state ordinance, giving the governing
[22:25] body be authority to right and issue clear policies and procedures that permit a licensee
[22:32] to carry a concealed handgun and designated government buildings, thus taking the owners off
[22:38] one individual and making the city governing body the accountable entity.
[22:46] Regarding transparency, we are concerned for all of you, our elected officials.
[22:51] We recognize that for your security, should Council decide to designate a licensee, portions of this
[23:00] ordinances related information may need to be held confidential and withheld from the public.
[23:09] Stakeholder input, prior to the potential adoption of this award, we recommend holding a public meeting so people may be informed
[23:19] and have the opportunity to provide feedback to the governing body.
[23:26] As the training storage funding and liability in Ohio,
[23:31] any qualifying person over 21 years of age may carry a weapon.
[23:39] A licensee has taken eight hours of training and received a concealed handgun license.
[23:44] For reference, police officers have over 200 hours of pertinent training
[23:49] including de-escalation training.
[23:53] Hudson League suggests that as part of your procedures, you discuss, who owns the handgun?
[24:02] How much training have they had?
[24:04] How is the handgun and the ammunition funded?
[24:09] Where and how are the handguns, is the handguns stored while in public building?
[24:14] And we recommend having a discussion with your insurance company, and also that you review
[24:20] a high-alot as a pertain, pertains to liability.
[24:24] Tracy, your five minutes are up.
[24:26] If you have more time, I can grant you 30 minutes.
[24:29] Take a minute.
[24:30] I will allow you two more minutes.
[24:31] Thank you.
[24:32] Thank you.
[24:33] But most important.
[24:34] The most important question you should that should be considered our personal selection in monitoring.
[24:41] Who vaccins designates the handgun carrier?
[24:44] How and how often is the mental, physical and emotional health of these individuals monitored
[24:51] and by whom?
[24:53] What are the procedures to remove individuals from designates if necessary?
[25:00] This ordinance is much more complicated than just changing the paperwork and having one person determined who, how and where the handguns are carried in government buildings.
[25:10] As residents of HUD, as you sit in these seats, you are all elected officials, and as elected officials, you are responsible to your constituents, the residents of Hudson.
[25:21] And as residents of Hudson, it is our responsibility to ensure with civility and respect that our elected officials are acting in our best interest.
[25:34] This issue requires discussion, thoughtful policies, and procedures to be put in place for the safety and security of you, our Hudson elected officials, and for the well-being of our entire community.
[25:45] I thank you for your time and attention in the extra time, especially because you're kind
[25:50] of long-winded.
[25:51] And I submit this to you for your violence.
[25:55] Thank you.
[25:55] Thank you.
[26:00] Additional public comment tonight?
[26:03] In the right.
[26:04] Ingrid?
[26:16] Good evening.
[26:16] Council and Mayor.
[26:18] My name is Ingrid.
[26:19] And I've been a resident of Hudson for 36 years.
[26:22] I currently reside at Hudson Common Drive.
[26:25] I am speaking as a private citizen, as well as a member of Mom's Man Action for Gun Sense in America.
[26:33] I oppose ordinance number 25-91, which is labeled as a Mending in Ordnance in order to comply with state law.
[26:44] It should be labeled allowing firearms in city buildings in Hudson.
[26:50] I'm a little distressed that you didn't name this bill or
[26:53] thing to what the content really is.
[26:56] I am against this ordinance because there is no reason.
[26:59] What's so ever to change the city ordinance to allow
[27:04] concealed weapons in a city public building where currently
[27:08] they are not allowed.
[27:11] As you all know, the city's council meetings
[27:14] are not a demonstration of politeness, respect,
[27:18] or even civility. Just look at the tapes of how sometimes you treat each other.
[27:25] I am concerned that we may see more disagreements escalate to shootings because we have more people carrying guns.
[27:34] Not only in this building, but other city buildings and elsewhere.
[27:39] I would like to know which council member plans to carry a gun into this building.
[27:45] Would anyone like to raise their hand?
[27:50] No one?
[27:51] So no one here plans to carry a concealed weapon into the town hall, which is a city building,
[27:56] which you are trying to change to allow people having concealed weapons.
[28:01] So maybe you're not concerned for your safety.
[28:04] These days, people pull out their guns instead of starting of this fight,
[28:09] ask any police officer.
[28:12] More guns does not make people more safe.
[28:15] It's easier to sheet somebody with a gun, frankly than punch them in the face.
[28:22] Plus citizens are allowed to carry guns with little or minimal training and aren't thoroughly
[28:28] vetted.
[28:30] Carrying a gun does not ensure your safety or the safety of others.
[28:34] In fact, David Hemmanway, professor of health policy at Harvard Chan School of Public Health,
[28:39] said recently that there is no good evidence that using a gun in self-defense, we do
[28:45] is the likelihood of injury.
[28:50] Why?
[28:51] Why?
[28:52] As a member of Monsdemand Action for Gun Sense, I have a number of facts about guns that
[28:56] have been collected by professional researchers from every town for gun safety.
[29:02] Please feel free to check the facts at everytown.org.
[29:07] I would like to review a few facts because the escalation of gun violence in the USA
[29:11] is simply put staggering.
[29:15] The latest statistic is that the USA has 45,738 people die by guns in an average year.
[29:28] Let's break that down.
[29:31] Here's what happens in one day. Every single day in the US, 125 people are killed with guns and more than 200 are shot and wounded.
[29:43] In 2015, when I first joined, Mom's Man Action for Gun Sense, there was an average of 30 people killed a day by guns.
[29:53] Now it's 125.
[29:57] Our gun death rate is the highest compared to us.
[30:00] They're hiring countries. In fact, it's 26 times higher, as comparison per 100,000 people. So this is, you can compare countries based on their 100,000 population. So the U.S. has 4.5 deaths per 100,000 people. Canada 0.38, Australia 0.15.
[30:30] United Kingdom, 0.05, Japan, 0.001, which equates to about two deaths per year.
[30:46] Well, what about Ohio? Ohio has the 24th highest rate of gun deaths in the United States.
[30:53] The rate of gun suicide has increased by 37% and gun homicide has increased 61% in Ohio from 2014 to 2023.
[31:09] So 61% in Ohio from 2014 to 2023.
[31:14] This is higher than the nationwide increase.
[31:19] If that doesn't move you, if that doesn't scare you, how about this?
[31:24] Fire arms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens.
[31:32] It used to be car accidents, now it's guns.
[31:36] And now your time is up.
[31:37] I will also graciously allow you to additional money.
[31:40] I just need one more minute.
[31:41] That will be for them.
[31:42] Thank you.
[31:43] More than 2,800 children and teens died by
[31:47] kind of homicide every year.
[31:51] So please, though, no for this ordinance, let's keep Hudson's safe.
[31:56] If you are scared,
[32:00] in this building, outside this building, in other government buildings,
[32:03] in your home, whatever, get pepper spray, guess what?
[32:07] It works, and you won't end up murdering someone.
[32:12] Thank you for your attention.
[32:13] Any of these facts can easily be googled.
[32:17] Thank you for your comments.
[32:21] Additional public comment.
[32:31] Mr. Mayor, members of Council and staff.
[32:34] My name is Cynthia Curtin, and I'm your new judge at the Stoming Incible Court.
[32:39] I wanted to stop by to introduce myself, so I appreciate the opportunity.
[32:43] I was appointed to the Court by Governor DeWine right after Memorial Day.
[32:48] I bring 35 years of litigation experience to the bench.
[32:52] that experience included jury trials upon argument, negotiation,
[32:57] mediation, arbitration.
[32:59] I have handled arbitration hearings, which is very similar to what I do now.
[33:03] I listen to both sides and then make a decision.
[33:06] I've represented small businesses, large corporations, national retailers,
[33:11] national insurance companies, and individuals.
[33:14] I've handled a variety of matters, which have involved
[33:18] Promises liability, product liability, motor vehicle liability, property damage, construction, zoning, contracts, coverage analysis,
[33:28] probate, state planning, and I'm sure many more, but that's all I can think of over the last three decades.
[33:35] In my last firm, I worked as an assistant to the National Coordinating Council for two major retailers where I worked with attorneys around the country in different
[33:47] state and federal courts on various matters.
[33:50] I have owned and managed my own law firm,
[33:54] which was a certified woman-owned business,
[33:56] and a certified woman-owned law firm,
[33:59] and I'm very proud of having had that certification.
[34:02] I am licensed to practice throughout Ohio.
[34:04] I've been to a period in many Ohio state courts,
[34:08] the Pellot courts, municipal courts, and federal court.
[34:12] Including U.S. District Court,
[34:14] Northern District of Ohio, Southern District of Ohio,
[34:16] in the six-circuit court of appeals.
[34:20] I am settling into the court, things are running smoothly.
[34:24] I'm working with the prosecutors and Defense Council,
[34:27] in fact, your prosecutor were keeping the dock at moving.
[34:31] I've already handled a couple high-profile arrangements.
[34:35] I'd like to introduce you to my bailiff Dawn Zellich,
[34:37] also from Hudson, who is with me here tonight.
[34:41] I should mention I am a longtime Hudson resident.
[34:43] I've been in Hudson for nearly 50 years, which is truly amazing, since I'm only 40.
[34:50] I have raised my family here.
[34:53] I am a proud graduate of Hudson High School, and as a matter of fact, served as a chair
[34:57] of the Planning Commission, I'll go wild back.
[35:00] So, I should also mention I am writing in November for a new term, be certain, vote curtain, but for now I just wanted you to put a face to the name of your new judge.
[35:13] And so I thank you for your time and attention.
[35:16] Thank you.
[35:18] Thank you.
[35:23] Additional comment, Mimi?
[35:36] Good evening. My name is Mimi Becker and I live at 47 Laurel Lake Drive.
[35:41] And if we're supposed to confess how long we lived in Hussain,
[35:46] I've only lived here for 10 years,
[35:49] but I have been pretty involved with a number of issues.
[35:55] And I wanted to speak briefly tonight about the proposed codified ordinance 92591.
[36:06] And I'm speaking as an individual.
[36:07] I would urge the council to step back, postpone the vote on this, and consider a range
[36:21] of options for enhancing the security of the people who come into the public government
[36:32] buildings. I think there are many more ways than having various ranges of
[36:43] competence, both mental and physical people who might be awarded gun permission to
[36:52] be in public buildings. And one of them is to use trained law enforcement
[36:59] officers if this threat is perceived as a real one that should be protected in certain areas.
[37:13] And the law enforcement officers are paid for by public money and if the citizens of the
[37:20] city feel that threatened when they come to a public meeting, whether you're an elected
[37:26] or appointed official or you're just a member of the public.
[37:31] And I would urge that before you take a vote on this, that you pay attention to the fact
[37:39] that the law says it's the governing body that makes, should make the decision.
[37:46] The issues that might arise otherwise would probably make a whole lot of people unhappy.
[37:55] and possibly poor, but I think that a community-wide conversation about how to improve
[38:07] respect, civility, and to be responsible citizens, whatever your hat is, might not
[38:17] be a bad idea before one adopts this ordinance which has many missing pieces at this point.
[38:28] Thank you on that subject.
[38:30] And then I would urge as you take up the Brandywine Creek study with respect to the
[38:48] encourage their contract people to work with the larger property owners in that and that system.
[38:57] Because there's a lot of stuff going into the creek that should not be going into the creek and some of it comes from where I live.
[39:06] And I think we would earn a position where we would be very happy to help with that.
[39:13] So, thank you very much and I want to go on because you're already over time, thank you.
[39:23] Thank you, Mimi.
[39:26] Additional public comment tonight?
[39:30] Rob.
[39:46] I'm going to apologize and advance if I don't stop.
[39:49] It's because I'm colorblind, not because I'm ignorant.
[39:51] I can't tell what color the light.
[39:52] I will give you a verbal warning.
[39:54] Thank you.
[39:57] Thank you, Mayor.
[39:58] Notable members.
[40:03] Thank you for the opportunity to address you. My name is Rob Kagler and my address is 65 manneredrive. I had the opportunity and honor to serve on and chair the 2025 charter review commission CRC.
[40:18] And my purpose in coming here tonight is not to speak for the CRC or for my fellow members, but rather to stick up for them, but also and more importantly to defend the charter itself.
[40:31] The process and three options for amending the charter, Council initiated petition driven and CRC initiated or CRC, are set forth in Article 13 of the charter.
[40:44] Council's role under each option is clearly laid out in the charter. Under the CRC option, Council has two simple duties.
[40:52] Number one, appoint the commission.
[40:55] Number two, submit the commission's recommended changes to the ballot.
[41:01] Both council duties under the CRC option or mandatory shall roles.
[41:07] Council as a body does not have a role in preparing or approving the CRC's recommendations.
[41:14] Council members, just like all members of the public, are welcome to provide input to the CRC throughout the process.
[41:21] This year, Council members, nearly all of you, provided typo, much input to the CRC.
[41:30] Many times and on multiple occasions, more so, in fact, than all other residents combined.
[41:36] Thank you for that.
[41:38] Having served on and chaired the CRC three times over the past 20 years, I have observed
[41:44] that councils operate differently, and variety is said to be the spice of life.
[41:52] What I witnessed when watching the video from your meeting from a few weeks ago, however
[41:56] left me at first puzzled, and then later angry.
[42:01] The circus that transpired was not only wholly unnecessary, but also contrary to the charter,
[42:08] and to the oath that council members take upon assuming office.
[42:11] A very brief oath that specifically includes supporting the charter and supporting the charter
[42:19] entails fulfilling your duties under the charter.
[42:23] Council members have a duty to vote on all questions that come before them.
[42:28] The charter, in this case, requires Council to submit and Council acts by ordinance,
[42:33] so each council member's vote on the ordinance to submit must be yes.
[42:37] No is not an option and abstaining, especially with no conflict of interest or other stated reason is not an option either.
[42:47] Not liking your duty is not a reason not to vote on something when your duty requires you to vote.
[42:55] The ordinance to submit did not approve or adopt charter amendments, but rather simply submitted them to the electors for a public vote.
[43:03] So, a council member support of or opposition to any part of the ordinance or any individual CRC recommendation was frankly irrelevant to the matter before council.
[43:15] The examples given at the meeting for voting no included reference references to other council actions, where council makes the final decision.
[43:24] That is not the case for CRC recommended charter amendments. The CRC not the council makes the final decision.
[43:32] examples given about the CRC not taking sufficient input and not being open to input about
[43:38] its final output also ring hollow and untrue. Not only was every charter section
[43:45] read aloud and discussed a tedious task in and of itself, but every proposed charter
[43:52] change was discussed several at great length at at least two and in some cases three
[43:57] more CRC meetings. Further, CRC opportunities in 2025 for public input were more generous and
[44:06] more numerous prior to taking final action than prior to any council or other city final action
[44:12] that I have observed in 40 years plus or minus give or take of living in Hudson.
[44:18] I have found that when someone says something to the effect of no offense intended,
[44:22] The very next statement is usually something intentionally offensive.
[44:28] Those exact words were not used a few weeks ago, but the effect was just the same.
[44:34] And I'm here to tell you offense taken.
[44:37] Announcing opposition to ballot issues and then announcing ones intent to campaign against
[44:42] ballot issues, all just during discussion on a mandatory action to submit questions to
[44:47] electors all before voting no represents the ultimate irony given that a no vote on the ordinance
[44:54] to submit could prevent those questions from ever reaching the ballot.
[44:59] Thus then.
[45:00] I'm the electors, they're charter mandated opportunity to vote on those questions. I certainly hope that was not anyone's intent all along.
[45:09] In further irony, voting no could also cause there to be no issues to campaign against.
[45:14] Rendering the entire content of the preno vote statement as moot.
[45:17] Clever? Not.
[45:20] Rob your time is up, but I will give you two additional minutes.
[45:23] Thank you, sir.
[45:24] I've tried to unpack what happened, and I don't know for sure so I can only guess.
[45:30] I don't like the result, so I'm going to criticize the process.
[45:34] I'm going to try and make a statement by voting no, and I wish more council members were
[45:38] here so that I could make my statement without jeopardizing the result.
[45:43] Whether that's the case or not, it never should have happened, and by the way, no matter what
[45:48] the excuse, there's no excuse, not at all.
[45:51] The CRC fulfilled its duties under the charter, unfortunately not all members of Council did.
[45:58] While a reconsideration and subsequent revote may have provided some semblance of an off-ramp,
[46:04] an apology, and a promise not to repeat what happened is due not only to the CRC,
[46:10] but also and more importantly to the electors, who will hopefully still have the opportunity to vote on the CRC recommended charter amendments.
[46:18] I also asked that Oaths be fully upheld by all going forward and I pray that an object
[46:26] failure to do so in this case while disappointing and embarrassing to watch does not jeopardize
[46:32] the outcome.
[46:34] Thank you again for the opportunity to serve and I want to thank you all sincerely for your service
[46:39] to the city and for your duty-bound support of the Charter of the City of Hudson, Ohio.
[46:46] Thank you.
[46:48] Thank you, sir.
[46:51] additional comment from the public.
[46:59] Seeing none, we will close section seven on public comment.
[47:04] And due to a previous issue, we are going to take a quick two-minute recess.
[47:09] Thank you.
[48:38] Apologize for the short delay. We would resume our public meeting.
[48:44] Thank you. We will continue with section eight, correspondence and council comments.
[48:49] If any council member has correspondence that hasn't already been generally distributed
[48:52] and or council comments. We will hear those now. Please gain my attention and allow me to verbally
[48:57] recognize you and assign you the floor. Are there any comments from council tonight?
[49:02] Councilor Heeter? You first I just had an update from Parkboard. Parkboard did have a meeting last
[49:09] night. They had a very healthy discussion in preparation of the five year budget cycle.
[49:17] I think at the top of their priority list is Middleton Park. I think they recognize, you know,
[49:23] the disappointment from residents and just wanted to reiterate that that certainly is a priority
[49:30] finding a way to revitalize that park. They also talked about how to find a sponsor for an
[49:37] AED at the inclusive playground. Apparently the AEDs that we do have at other playgrounds,
[49:42] I think there was somebody from staff who had rounded up sponsorships for that. So they requested
[49:50] that put that out there. And next meeting they will plan to review the park survey. I think we had a very healthy response to that.
[50:00] So, thank you to the residents who did provide some input that was wonderful. So, stay tuned. The next meeting is in September, and they will be discussing the results of that survey. So, that's all I have. Thank you.
[50:11] Thank you, Councillor Header. Additional comment from Council? Councillor Banyick?
[50:17] Yeah, first I'll just say for those who are left, always appreciate all the comments, and especially tonight, and to those who have already shared comments on current policy or ordinances, I appreciate that as well.
[50:30] The Military and Veterans Commission also had a meeting, excuse me, the next event upcoming for them that I'd like to share here is on September 11th at 830 to 10 in the morning at Hudson Memorial, Hudson High School Memorial Stadium.
[50:47] The Military and Veterans Commission and the Hudson City Schools will be sponsoring a stair walk through the stadium there.
[50:54] So just so that everybody knows you can block your calendar today if you want to walk a lot of
[50:58] stares.
[51:00] And that's all I've got.
[51:01] Thank you.
[51:02] Thank you.
[51:03] Councillor Vanwegg, additional comment from Council.
[51:06] Councillor Sutton?
[51:08] Yeah.
[51:08] I was contacted by a local artist, one of our businesses in town.
[51:15] They were concerned our tree ordinances state that the tree caliper is measured at breast
[51:22] height.
[51:23] We have things like the example they gave me was a two-inch caliper at breast tight.
[51:28] Their concern was that the industry standard is usually measured more at the base of the tree.
[51:34] Rather than at breast tight and so our standard may be overly difficult in that it encourages much larger trees than would be standard.
[51:45] So unless there's any objections, I'd like to take that to the tree commission at the next meeting and just get them to weigh in on it.
[51:51] and maybe back to us at a later date.
[51:57] Thank you, Councilor Sutton, additional council comment.
[51:59] Councilor Quansky.
[52:01] Thank you.
[52:02] I received a letter from a resident
[52:05] who was unable to be here tonight
[52:06] and they asked that I read this into the record for them.
[52:11] It reads as follows.
[52:12] My name is Madeline LaPiede Carino
[52:14] and I live at 200 Laurel Lake Drive,
[52:17] West 216 Hudson, Ohio.
[52:20] I wish to express my opposition to section seven,
[52:24] I6 of proposed ordinance number 2591.
[52:28] This section states any building that is a government facility of this city and that is not a building that is used for
[52:34] primarily as a shelter restroom parking facility for motor vehicles or rest facility unless the city council president has issued a policy that permits a license license
[52:43] or qualified adult to carry a concealed handgun into such a building or buildings has placed
[52:49] the policy on file with the chief of police. The rest of the or section is here. I'm not going
[52:57] to read it because I think we're familiar with it at this point. Marilyn goes on to say,
[53:01] I object to this section in its entirety. First, I object that no weapon concealed or otherwise
[53:07] should ever be allowed into the city of Hudson government buildings except for a weapon in possession
[53:11] of law enforcement. Political discussions can be very intense and having weapons in a government
[53:16] building can pose a safety risk to all concerned. Second, allowing one person in this case,
[53:23] the City Council President to make the decision alone without involving the whole council
[53:27] is not in the best interest of this community. It is not appropriate for one person to write such
[53:32] a policy in isolation and to make such a decision on his or her own. Beyond that, the City Council
[53:39] should not implement such a policy.
[53:41] Third, I object to all records related to this policy being classified as security records
[53:45] as defined under Ohio revised code 149.333.
[53:50] Since this would mean that Hudson residents would be unable to access the records through
[53:54] public records request, transparency is vital to the healthy function of our government bodies.
[54:00] No threat to our community would justify denying our citizens access to records.
[54:04] We do not want our government operating in secrecy nor do we want decisions concerning our safety to be in the hands of a single person.
[54:11] Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.
[54:17] And then I have one more statement to read.
[54:24] And this is on behalf of myself.
[54:29] So, in 2020, at the height of the pandemic, I joined Hudson City Council as an at-large member with this sincere hope of positively impacting our community.
[54:37] For a year, our council under the leadership of bill world-drudge worked in harmony.
[54:42] Then the power shifted in 2021 following the at-large elections.
[54:46] From that point forward, my experience on council has been far from what I envisioned.
[54:50] Despite my dedication and enthusiasm to serve, I was repeatedly prevented from participating fully and equally alongside my peers.
[54:58] Instead, I found myself the target of...
[55:00] Numerous, faceless political attacks, which are not only inappropriate and unwarranted, but utterly unacceptable in the context of a small town nonpartisan city council.
[55:09] In my view, this behavior reflects a concerning trend of partisan tactics, creeping into local government and discouraging open dialogue and dissenting perspectives.
[55:19] Despite the roadblocks and personal attacks, I am proud of what I have accomplished these past almost high beers.
[55:25] But I have recently realized that despite my desire to continue to serve, my continued presence
[55:31] on the City Council is merely a distraction from the chaos that has overtaken our local
[55:35] government.
[55:37] While I planned to finish out my term on Council, I have decided not to seek re-election
[55:41] this year, and therefore did not file petitions a little over a week ago to reappear on
[55:48] the ballot.
[55:49] Once I am gone and no longer there to point the finger at, it will become clear
[55:53] never where the true issues have stemmed from. I love Hudson and realize that doing right by Hudson
[55:59] might mean making a really difficult choice I was not ready to make. Even though I do not feel
[56:04] ready to leave and my heart is telling me that my work serving with community is not yet done I
[56:09] know that deep down it is not about me and my desire to serve or my love of government. It's about you,
[56:15] it's about our community and it's about restoring balance.
[56:21] Although I believe it is necessary for me
[56:22] step aside at the end of this term, I have hoped that necessary changes can still be made,
[56:31] and that the integrity and mission of this city council can be restored.
[56:36] To do this, we must shift the dynamic on council, which can only be done in November at the
[56:40] ballot box.
[56:42] That is why I am excited to announce my support for Manda Weinstein, Samantha Dramo, and Kyle
[56:46] Brasivic for Hudson City Council at large.
[56:49] All three of these people have had sinis for fondly as I do, and they each have different
[56:53] unique qualifications and reasons for running.
[56:56] In talking with them, I realize that they can write the shift.
[57:00] This realization made a possible for me to finally make that difficult decision not run
[57:04] for reelection, a decision that I agonized over for months.
[57:08] I am excited for the community to get to know them in the coming months the way I have.
[57:12] Thank you to everyone who has encouraged, supported, mentored, and donated to me over these
[57:15] past five years.
[57:17] There are too many of you to name individually, but you know who you are.
[57:21] And to all of you know that this is only goodbye for now, not goodbye forever, in the future when I feel calling to serve my community once again and believe in my heart that I'm the best person for that job, then you'll see my name on the ballot.
[57:33] But in the meantime I'm excited to volunteer within the community for various nonprofits, for campaigns that are not mine and spend more time with my family. Thank you.
[57:43] Thank you, Councillor Kowalsky, additional council comment from any member who has not spoken yet.
[57:49] Council President Foster.
[57:52] Thank you.
[57:55] Mr. Caglar has already left for the evening, but I think that this council owes Mr. Caglar in apology.
[58:01] In particular, one member of this council owes Mr. Caglar in apology.
[58:05] What he said on public record is exactly as our charter reads.
[58:12] The duty and responsibility of this council is to forward their amendments to the ballot.
[58:19] It does state very simply shout.
[58:21] And it is a requirement and it falls under the oath of office of any member up here on city council.
[58:28] And he accurately described what happened here previously as the circus.
[58:32] and it was. It was no reason for that. Sorry that we didn't have a full council body that would have
[58:39] allowed for more people to have voted yes or no, but the fact is even if there was a full body here,
[58:44] the answer should have been 7 to 0 yes, period, because that is the responsibility of city council.
[58:52] The letter that was read into record by Ms. Walske from Madeline Lupiti Carino,
[58:58] interesting that she had discussed transparency because Madeline was actually the reason that
[59:04] the clock tower collaborative was essentially indicted by the Ohio election commission.
[59:12] There were multiple checks that were written to a pack that was deemed an illegal pack after
[59:17] the fact that those checks were written to Madeline with earmarks to her campaign to the pack.
[59:24] There were three different checks that were written.
[59:26] they were all written with notations to earmark for the pack, most of them were written on
[59:31] the same day the campaign donations were made to her campaign, which was, you know, by
[59:37] all appearances bundling, which additionally is also illegal.
[59:41] Ma'am on the PDC was my opposition in the campaign, so that makes it very clear as to why
[59:47] we would write that letter. And the idea that this body is somehow less transparent and less
[59:58] cooperative than the...
[1:00:00] The council was under Bill Waldrich's, frankly, laughable. Bill made Mr. Sutton, and I feel relatively unwelcome
[1:00:09] on a very regular basis. And we were, in fact, denied access to many city council meetings where
[1:00:17] agendas were set. When I took over as the city council president, one of the very first things
[1:00:23] I did, which actually was suggested by Mr. Walsky, was to make workshops transparent, so
[1:00:30] that agendas would be set in the public eye.
[1:00:35] I'm not sure that anything this council could have done other than doing exactly what
[1:00:42] Mr. Walsky wanted would be considered cooperative, because even under the clear guidance
[1:00:49] that she was required to vote, yes.
[1:00:52] She's still abstained from that motion last week.
[1:00:56] It was evidence that Ms. Kowalsky had no intention of working with anybody on this council
[1:01:02] or with the Charter Review Committee.
[1:01:04] And on behalf of this council, I would like to apologize to the Charter Review.
[1:01:09] Thank you.
[1:01:10] Thank you, Council President Foster.
[1:01:12] Additional council comment from any member who has not spoken yet?
[1:01:20] Seeing none, I will add a couple of quick remarks from my side.
[1:01:24] I'm just a reminder to the public that the schools are back in session here in Hudson.
[1:01:29] They started earlier this week.
[1:01:32] So please drive safely, be aware of pedestrian traffic, and as well as the laws around school bus,
[1:01:39] and when they stop to load and unload children.
[1:01:43] Second note, I wanted to say congratulations again to Hudson Community Living.
[1:01:47] I was honored to attend and speak at their ribbon-cutting ceremony this past weekend.
[1:01:51] So again, congratulations and welcome them to the Hudson community.
[1:01:56] In third note, the subcoming weekend, Hudson Veterinary Hospital will celebrate their 80th anniversary,
[1:02:04] so a quick congratulations to them.
[1:02:06] That is all I had.
[1:02:08] Additional offer to council if there's any additional comments.
[1:02:13] Seeing none, we will close section 8 and move on to section 9 report of the city manager.
[1:02:20] Mr. Sheridan, the floor is yours if you have any updates for council.
[1:02:23] Thank you Mayor, just a couple of quick items.
[1:02:26] The art on the green is down at the former Joanne site this weekend and for the public to
[1:02:32] come out.
[1:02:32] Next year it will be on the green just so everybody knows we are already planning that.
[1:02:38] August 8th was the one year anniversary of the 2000 year storm that hit the northeast side
[1:02:43] of our town.
[1:02:44] I just wanted to remind all the residents out there that may still be worrying about flooding,
[1:02:49] that we are still working diligently, we have two water shed studies that are going on, the
[1:02:56] Tinker Creek and Brandy Wine Creek as Mimi mentioned here tonight.
[1:03:00] We have detailed storm improvements that are going on under design right now and we're
[1:03:05] implementing them and right now we have two projects that are actually being constructed that
[1:03:10] were part of that.
[1:03:11] So I just wanted to give everybody a quick update that again, we are always diligent about
[1:03:16] the storm water in the flooding in our town.
[1:03:18] So that's the update. Last item is the first consent item here at 11A, 25, 13. We need a
[1:03:27] little bit more time putting some estimates together and I would ask if Council could pull
[1:03:32] that to a date of September 2nd and we'd like to bring it back to Council for discussion next week.
[1:03:39] That's all, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sheridan. Are there any comments for the City Manager
[1:03:44] Council.
[1:03:48] Seeing none, we will close section 9 and move on to section 10 for appointments.
[1:03:53] Council President Foster, do we have any appointments tonight?
[1:03:56] We do. We have several appointments tonight.
[1:03:59] I am nominating George Murray for a full term on the park board to expire July of
[1:04:11] for a full term on the park board, also to expire in July of 2029.
[1:04:17] I'm nominating Amy Manko for a full term on the art board through June of 2029, and I'm nominating
[1:04:25] Andrew Brown for a full term on the art board through June of 2029.
[1:04:31] Thank you, Council President Foster, do we have a second to those appointments?
[1:04:35] Second.
[1:04:36] Second.
[1:04:36] Thank you, Councillor Bambleg.
[1:04:38] Are there any comments from Council?
[1:04:43] Seeing none, Mrs. Wheeler, will you please roll call a vote on Council President's
[1:04:47] Foster Appointment of George Murray to the Park Board for a full term through July of
[1:04:54] in 2009, Linda O'Neill, for appointment to the park board, for a full-term through Joe.
[1:05:00] May 2, 2020, as well as Amy Manko for a full term through June of 2020, for the architectural historic board of review, as well as Andrew Brown for a full term through June of 2020, also on the architectural and historic board of view.
[1:05:18] Dr. Bird? Yes. Mr. Foster? Yes. Dr. Guetz? Yes. Mrs. Heeder? Yes. Mrs. Kowalski? Yes. Mr. Sutton? Yes. Mr. VanWig. Yes.
[1:05:29] Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler.
[1:05:31] Those four appointments as stated passes by a vote of seven in favor to zero against.
[1:05:38] So thank you again.
[1:05:39] Welcome back to some members and welcome to a new member on our boards and commissions.
[1:05:46] As such, Councillor Pursn Foster, any additional comments on appointments?
[1:05:50] That's all we have tonight.
[1:05:52] Thank you very much.
[1:05:53] Thank you, Councillor Pursn Foster.
[1:05:54] we will close section 10 and move on to section 11 for the consent agenda.
[1:05:59] Council members, if there are any items on the consent agenda that you wish to have considered
[1:06:03] separately, please allow me to read the item, gain my attention, and state your wishes.
[1:06:09] Item A on consent is number 25-113, a resolution authorizing the city manager to advertise
[1:06:14] for competitive bids, and to enter into a contract for Hudson Drive Waterline Extension
[1:06:20] Project.
[1:06:21] Please pull this.
[1:06:22] of the Council President Foster.
[1:06:25] We will pull this item.
[1:06:28] Item B on consent is number 25-114.
[1:06:31] A resolution authorizing the City Manager
[1:06:33] to enter into a professional services contract
[1:06:36] with GPD group for the BrandiLine Creek Watershed Study Update.
[1:06:44] Item C on consent is number 25-115.
[1:06:48] A resolution authorizing the City Manager
[1:06:49] to enter into an access and stormwater easement agreement
[1:06:53] with the Country Club of Hudson located at 2155 Middleton Road.
[1:07:01] Item D on consent is number 25-116.
[1:07:04] A resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into contracts
[1:07:08] for the acquisition of temporary easements
[1:07:10] for the downtown pedestrian safety project.
[1:07:13] PID number 120285 for right of way purposes
[1:07:18] and declaring an emergency.
[1:07:24] Item E on consent is number 25-117.
[1:07:27] It resolution to approve the form and authorize the execution of tall grass schedule with American municipal power incorporated and taking of other actions in connection there with and declaring an emergency.
[1:07:41] The
[1:07:46] last item on consent is item F number 25-118 and ordinance amending ordinance number 15-1000 authorizing the city manager to set rates for velocity broadband commercial and residential customers and declaring an emergency.
[1:08:06] Those are the items on consent. Again, we did pull item 25-113.
[1:08:12] Therefor, do we have a motion to suspend the rules to allow passage of the items on the consent agenda, less item 25-113?
[1:08:21] Move to suspend the rules on the consent agenda for items B through F.
[1:08:27] Thank you, Council President Foster, do we have a second?
[1:08:29] Second.
[1:08:30] Thank you, Councilor Sutton.
[1:08:31] This is Wheeler.
[1:08:32] Will you please roll call a vote?
[1:08:34] Mr. Foster.
[1:08:35] Yes.
[1:08:35] Dr. Guetz.
[1:08:37] Yes.
[1:08:37] Mrs. Heeter.
[1:08:38] Yes.
[1:08:38] This is Kualsky.
[1:08:40] Mr. Sutton.
[1:08:41] Mr. Canway.
[1:08:42] Dr. Bird.
[1:08:44] Thank you.
[1:08:44] Mrs. Wheeler, the rules are so suspended by vote of seven and favored to zero against
[1:08:48] as such that we have a motion to approve the consent agenda, less item A25-113.
[1:08:55] Move to approve all items from B through F on the consent agenda.
[1:08:59] Thank you, Council President Foster.
[1:09:00] Do we have a second?
[1:09:02] Was that Council a bird?
[1:09:04] Yes.
[1:09:04] Thank you, Councilor Bird.
[1:09:05] Are there any comments?
[1:09:09] Seeing none.
[1:09:10] Mrs. Wheeler, will you please roll call the vote?
[1:09:13] Dr. Gets? Yes.
[1:09:15] Mrs. Heeter? Yes.
[1:09:16] Mrs. Coleski? Yes.
[1:09:17] Mr. Sutton? Yes.
[1:09:18] Mr. Bainway? Yes.
[1:09:19] Dr. Bird? Yes. Mr. Foster? Yes.
[1:09:23] Thank you. Mrs. Wheeler, the consent agenda
[1:09:25] less item A number 25-113 has been approved by a vote of 7 in favor to 0 against.
[1:09:33] As such, we will go back and address item A to 5-113.
[1:09:37] Do we have a motion to suspend the rules on item 25-113?
[1:09:42] I moved to postpone item 25-113 to a date certain of September 2, 2025.
[1:09:50] Just a procedural question.
[1:09:53] We're taking that motion before we suspend the rules on a consent intent on item is that.
[1:09:57] Okay. Okay.
[1:09:58] Just wanted to make sure.
[1:10:00] I'm sorry, Council President Foster, you have made a motion to to postpone to date certain of seven seconds.
[1:10:06] September 2, 2025. Thank you. Do we have a second to that motion on consent agenda 25-113.
[1:10:13] Second. Thank you, Councillor Banwig.
[1:10:17] Is there any discussion on that motion?
[1:10:22] Seeing none, Mrs. Wheeler.
[1:10:23] We please roll call a vote on postponing or consent agenda item 25-113 to a date certain of September 2, 2025.
[1:10:33] Mrs. Eater. Yes. Mrs. Kualski. Yes. Mr. Sutton. Yes. Mr. Vanway. Yes. Dr. Bird. Yes. Mr. Foster. Yes. Dr. Gets. Yes.
[1:10:44] Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler. The motion to postpone consent agenda item 25-113 to a date certain of September
[1:10:51] second, 2025, passes by a vote of seven in favor to zero against. As such, that will conclude
[1:10:59] our consent agenda items, and we will move on to section 12 for legislation. Item A is
[1:11:08] 25-91. It's an ordinance amending codified ordinance section 672.02 in order to comply with
[1:11:17] state law. This is a third reading and actionable tonight.
[1:11:23] As such, do we have a motion from Council on Legislation Item 25-91 to
[1:11:31] pass 25-91?
[1:11:34] Second.
[1:11:39] Thank you, Council President Foster and Councillor Sutton. Is there any discussion on Legislation Item 25-91?
[1:11:46] That's my bird.
[1:11:50] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:11:52] So I appreciate the comments that members of the public already made about this legislation.
[1:11:58] I'm not going to try not to duplicate those comments.
[1:12:04] But again, the title of this suggests that we need to pass this ordinance to comply with state law,
[1:12:08] and that is mostly correct.
[1:12:11] Again, though, the language at the end of the ordinance,
[1:12:13] regarding allowing some people to carry a concealed handgun in government buildings like Town Hall
[1:12:19] is allowed by state law but is not required. We do not need to do this.
[1:12:26] So currently we don't allow handguns in Town Hall or city hall but this ordinance as it is written
[1:12:31] does. So I don't think most parents who bring their children to city council meetings want guns here.
[1:12:38] I think like schools, hospitals, libraries, I think they want some places to be free of guns.
[1:12:46] And I also don't think it makes us safer.
[1:12:49] My concern is that by increasing the number of guns at town hall or sea hall, it could
[1:12:54] make meetings that, again, can include residents with their children, more dangerous, not
[1:13:01] less.
[1:13:02] Additional guns could result in bystander parents and children in the audience getting shot.
[1:13:09] If there is a threat risk assessment that demonstrates we should be concerned about weapons in our government buildings,
[1:13:18] then we should add more police presence and take steps to keep them out, for example, metal detectors, rather than adding more guns to the mix.
[1:13:26] So I would like to make a motion to amend ordinance 25-91 by modifying the first sentence in Section I6 by deleting all language after the phrase or rest facility that refers to issuing a policy that permits bringing a concealed handgun into our government billings.
[1:13:49] Second before we move to a second council or bird. I just want to make sure I understand your motion to amend legislation item 25-91
[1:14:02] That's not my
[1:14:04] Okay understand. I'm just looking at that to see if there was similarity with the document that was shared with council earlier today
[1:14:13] There is none.
[1:14:17] I will address you as appropriate council request a few please
[1:14:22] Can you please restate that motion
[1:14:24] This version is the section I6 at the end of the legislation that has the paragraph that
[1:14:34] speaks to
[1:14:39] showing a policy that permits a licensee or qualified adult to carry a conceal
[1:14:44] handgun.
[1:14:45] So that entire language is in I6 is after the phrase or rest facility, which is on the
[1:14:54] line and that and that.
[1:15:02] So, understand. To that motion, I will now ask for a second, Councillor Quolsky, I'm taking it to give you that option. So, yes, Councillor Verge, your motion has been entered and seconded by Councillor Quolsky, has such do we have any discussion on the motion by Councillor Verge.
[1:15:22] discussion from Council.
[1:15:28] Seeing no discussion. I've got a, sorry, Councilor Bammoy, go ahead.
[1:15:32] A clarification in that this will come in more full later in that this ordinance does not require
[1:15:38] handguns are carried in Council. It does not require that we have a policy to carry handguns or to allow it.
[1:15:47] It only allows the Council President who was elected by the Council members who were elected
[1:15:53] by the electors, thus the governing body, to set a policy.
[1:15:59] So I think that that is an important differentiation in that today or with the adjustment
[1:16:06] that Council of Bird has proposed, it makes clear to any potential assailant that there
[1:16:11] no firearms present in Council by having a policy to make it, by having a process to make
[1:16:20] the policy, it does create doubt and a potential a salence mind, whether we did, whether
[1:16:26] the Council President did allow it or did not, a potential a salent does not know.
[1:16:34] So I see that there is more strength than creating a policy that has options regardless
[1:16:38] of what we do after that, that to be discussed, but I see the benefit in having a policy
[1:16:47] that seems to be required by the change in Ohio law, unless we want to be clear if
[1:16:53] that nothing is in here and make the security policy clear to any potential to sale.
[1:17:02] Is that going to do your comment, Councillor Dennwick? Thank you, just clarifying any additional
[1:17:06] comment from Council, Councilor Koalski.
[1:17:09] Thank you.
[1:17:11] Yes, my first preference, I agree with you, Dr. Burdette.
[1:17:14] There should be no handguns carried by any civilians.
[1:17:21] Council member in City Hall and it should be
[1:17:24] kind of strictly to our law enforcement officers.
[1:17:28] And if we need, if we need to,
[1:17:30] integrate a metal detector, then I think we should do that.
[1:17:34] So thank you for making that motion.
[1:17:36] Thank you, Councillor Quoske, additional comment from Council and Councillor Gats.
[1:17:41] I agree with Dr. Bird and Mrs. Quoske.
[1:17:46] I don't understand your logic, Mr. Banerick, because the police are in here and they
[1:17:53] have the guns and the assailants will know that so that there is presence and the fact
[1:18:00] that they are so well-trained, we know the more training a person has, the better they're able
[1:18:08] to do their job, just look at airplane pilots, how much training they have to have, and we
[1:18:14] put our lives in their hands, and that's what we're doing with our police presence.
[1:18:20] So I don't think your argument is valid.
[1:18:27] Thank you, Councillor Gats, additional comment from any council member.
[1:18:31] I want to give the opportunity to other council members, first council member, if you have a second comment.
[1:18:36] Additional council members who have not spoken.
[1:18:41] Going to round two, council member.
[1:18:43] To clarify, Dr. Gats, I don't think you're arguing against what I said.
[1:18:47] You're arguing against the presence of firearms.
[1:18:50] What I said is a policy can be a deterrent, the existence of a policy.
[1:18:54] If you will remember, we didn't use to have a police officer in here.
[1:18:59] I asked that the police officer be removed at the beginning of my term, so they could serve
[1:19:04] the public and not spend that resource protecting us.
[1:19:08] So I think having a policy that could deter that is an option.
[1:19:12] I'm just saying that these are things out there that can set up a better security understanding.
[1:19:18] So I didn't say we needed to carry guns, but I believe that is what you're
[1:19:23] applying, I'm saying. As I've had many discussions about this with residents for the past couple
[1:19:29] months, it's not been recent. There are a variety of different opinions.
[1:19:36] Thank you, Councillor BANWIG. Additional council comment from any other council members?
[1:19:44] Seeing no additional comment on the motion by Councillor BIRD, that was seconded by Councillor
[1:19:48] Kualsky. Mrs Wheeler, will you please roll call a vote on the motion as stated by Councillor
[1:19:53] bird to amend legislation item 25-91.
[1:19:57] This is Cole Ski. Yes. Mr. Sutton.
[1:20:00] Mr. Bainwig? Dr. Bird? Yes. Mr. Foster? No. Dr. Gets? Yes. Mrs. Heater? Yes. Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler. The motion by Dr. Councillor Bird to amend legislation 25-91 does fail by a vote of four against to only three in favor.
[1:20:21] That's such we will move back to the main motion, which was the passage of legislation
[1:20:25] 259-1.
[1:20:26] Is there any additional discussion on legislation item 259-1?
[1:20:32] Councillor Coalski.
[1:20:34] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:20:35] All of Council should have received a copy of this proposed amendment to section 172.02-I6.
[1:20:43] This is an amendment that I asked Mr. Pitchford to draft in the interest that we would need to make a compromise on the language.
[1:20:59] And essentially the amendment that I'm proposing sets forth the policy and plain language for everyone, the residents to know.
[1:21:08] And what it does is it states that a person who is elected city of Hudson official and qualified
[1:21:20] adult authorize under state law to carry a concealed handgun is able to do so if they
[1:21:28] provide notice of their intent to carry to the chief of police, the city manager and the
[1:21:32] council president.
[1:21:33] Now this accomplishes two things that I think this council is striving to do.
[1:21:37] One is it sets a policy forward and there is transparency in what that policy is for the public.
[1:21:44] The second thing it does is who actually is carrying at any given time is only going to be
[1:21:50] known by our police chief that elected officials colleagues in the city manager and that will
[1:21:58] be kept confidential as such security policies normally would be kept amongst the city officials
[1:22:06] city manager who's the head of our safety services in the police chief.
[1:22:10] So in my opinion, this is a nice compromise that I would like the council to consider
[1:22:15] because I think it accomplishes what Mr. Foster originally set out to do.
[1:22:20] However, it does bring some clarity to the residents of the city of Hudson by notifying them
[1:22:29] the only person other than authorized police officers, law enforcement officials, rather, who
[1:22:37] would be carrying, concealed carrying under this policy would be council members.
[1:22:45] So I'm going to make an emotion to amend legislation 25-91 with the following language. I'll read
[1:22:55] out loud, so this altered section six, any building that is a government facility of this
[1:23:02] city, and that is not a building that is used primarily as a shelter, restroom, parking
[1:23:06] facility for motor vehicles, or rest facility, unless that person A is an elected city
[1:23:13] of Hudson official, B is either a licensee or qualified adult authorized under state law to carry
[1:23:19] a concealed handgun, and C has provided notice of their intent to carry to the chief of
[1:23:24] the City Manager and Council President. All information and records related to this policy, its development and implementation and our confidential,
[1:23:33] contain information directly used for protecting or maintaining the security of a public office against attack interference,
[1:23:40] terrorism, or sabotage and shall constitute security records as defined under Ohio Revised Code 149.433 as amended.
[1:23:50] Thank you, Councillor Qualsky. She has entered that motion as stated. Is there a second to Councillor Qualsky's motion?
[1:23:58] Second.
[1:24:00] Second.
[1:24:00] Thank you, Councillor Gats.
[1:24:02] Is there any discussion on Councillor Qualsky's motion to amend the legislation item 25-91 as stated?
[1:24:10] Councillor President Foster.
[1:24:12] Is your intent to support the legislation of this amendment is incorporated into the legislation?
[1:24:17] I will allow Councillor Coalsky to answer that.
[1:24:22] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:24:23] At this point, I have not decided I would like to hear the rest of the conversation
[1:24:29] and hear any further amendments that are made.
[1:24:32] Thank you, Councillor Coalsky.
[1:24:34] Councillor President Foster, any additional comments since you have the floor?
[1:24:38] Any additional comments from Council members?
[1:24:40] Councillor Header?
[1:24:40] I appreciate the changes and I think these are good.
[1:24:46] Thank you, Councillor Header, additional council comment.
[1:24:51] seeing no additional council comment. This is Wheeler will you please roll call
[1:24:57] a vote on councilor Kualsky's motion.
[1:25:00] To amend legislation item 25-9-1 as she has verbally stated here of this evening.
[1:25:06] Mr. Sutton,
[1:25:11] Mr. Banway? Yes. Dr. Bird? Yes. Mr. Foster? Yes. Dr. Gets? No. Mrs. Heater? Yes. Mrs. Squalsky? Yes. Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler. The amendment as stated by Councillor Qualsky for
[1:25:29] legislation item 25-91 does pass by a vote of six in favor to one against.
[1:25:38] As such, with that amended language now in legislation item 25-91, we will move back to
[1:25:47] since it's amended.
[1:25:47] We need to redo a motion.
[1:25:50] The motion was the pass as written.
[1:25:52] We have now amended it.
[1:25:54] We can still go back to the discussion on the passes as amended.
[1:25:58] Court, we are now in discussion on the motion in legislation as amended.
[1:26:03] As amended, so, yes, we're back to the main motion with the legislation as amended by the passage of Councillor
[1:26:09] Kualsky's motion.
[1:26:10] Is there any additional discussion now on legislation item 25-91 as amended?
[1:26:17] Councillor Banwick.
[1:26:20] It tried to clarify, again, through much of the discussion, I support us having a process
[1:26:25] to determine a policy. And that is what this vote is, is to have a process. It does not
[1:26:32] set the policy. It does allow things that are not currently allowed under a higher law.
[1:26:38] That are now currently allowed under a higher law, and that we're not previously.
[1:26:43] So that is the vote. The discussion about the policy itself is not what we're debating.
[1:26:49] though it has been somewhat convoluted, so I am in favor of the clarification.
[1:26:55] I think it sets a policy.
[1:26:58] A process for the policy.
[1:27:00] Thank you, Councilor Vanway.
[1:27:02] Additional discussion on the passage of legislation 25-91 as amended.
[1:27:06] Councilor Bird.
[1:27:08] So I appreciate that this is setting a policy up.
[1:27:13] up. But, again, it sets this in motion. I struggle to see why this should be treated
[1:27:25] differently than a hospital or a school where
[1:27:35] guns in there. I think the idea that somehow
[1:27:41] that we have a policy that might be developed that might kind of dissuade somebody from firing.
[1:27:52] Again, I don't think that the police presence is, I mean, that's already the deterrent right there that we have somebody.
[1:28:04] I don't know if there's some that a policy that we could have guns on us is going to make any
[1:28:13] deterrent.
[1:28:15] Thank you, Councillor Verde.
[1:28:16] Any additional discussion from Council?
[1:28:21] Councillor Kowalski?
[1:28:23] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:28:25] I recently came across an article and I'd like to read the headline out loud.
[1:28:29] Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones facing possible censure after being accused of threatening
[1:28:34] to kill city employee,
[1:28:38] I think that headline is quite alarming,
[1:28:44] and as anyone who regularly
[1:28:46] watches knows, emotions can get high, and I don't feel safer knowing that my colleagues
[1:28:54] would be carrying in town hall. And so I think when you hear headlines like that, I tend
[1:29:03] degree Dr. Bert, that adding more guns into the mix is not the answer.
[1:29:09] Thank you, Councillor Qualsky. Any additional comment from Council?
[1:29:15] Seeing none, we will move to A vote. Mrs. Wheeler, will you please roll call a vote on the passage of legislation item 25-91 as amended by Councillor Qualsky and your prior motion?
[1:29:28] Mr. Bainway?
[1:29:29] Yes.
[1:29:32] Dr. Bert?
[1:29:33] No.
[1:29:34] Mr. Foster?
[1:29:35] Yes.
[1:29:37] Dr. Gets?
[1:29:38] No.
[1:29:39] Mrs. Heeter?
[1:29:39] Yes.
[1:29:41] Mrs. Qualsky?
[1:29:45] Sir Sutton?
[1:29:46] Yes.
[1:29:49] Yes.
[1:29:50] Mrs. Wheeler?
[1:29:51] Legislation item 25-91 does pass by a vote of four in favor to three against.
[1:30:00] We will move on to legislation item B, number 25-92, and ordinance, and mending chapter 1-205, and 1-206 of the land development
[1:30:09] code relevant to regulations applicable to boarding canals and veterinary facilities.
[1:30:15] Noting this is a third reading and actionable tonight. There is a staff request to postpone this
[1:30:20] to September 16th, 2025, as noted by the city manager. As such, do we have a motion from council?
[1:30:30] move the pass to 592 and I request the floor first.
[1:30:37] Thank you Councillor Sutton, do we have a second?
[1:30:40] Two councilor Sutton is motion to pass.
[1:30:43] Thank you Councillor President Foster.
[1:30:45] Is there any discussion on legislation item 2-92?
[1:30:49] Councillor Sutton, I will offer you the floor first.
[1:30:52] Thank you.
[1:30:53] I've been talking to Mr. Foster.
[1:30:55] I think we are circling around an idea that will maybe more fairly balance
[1:31:01] our commercial and residential residents or our uses, if you will. So I'm requesting that we are
[1:31:13] making a motion that we postpone this to a date certain of September 2nd, so that'll be
[1:31:18] on the next workshop so we can bring forward an amendment.
[1:31:25] Just a quick point of clarification, your requesting has been moved to workshop. This is a third
[1:31:31] reading actionable tonight? Do we need to move it to the council meeting? Can we move it to a workshop?
[1:31:36] Presently.
[1:31:37] The second.
[1:31:38] Yeah, it's going to the second, which is our next meeting, which would make it eligible.
[1:31:41] Correct.
[1:31:43] My misunderstanding, thank you.
[1:31:46] So, the motion is to motion on the floor is to postman legislation item 25-9 to a date certain of September 2, 2025.
[1:31:56] So we will process this motion.
[1:31:59] First is there a second?
[1:32:01] And I have to.
[1:32:02] Second.
[1:32:04] I think that concludes.
[1:32:05] As
[1:32:07] such, that motion to postpone to a day of September, second, 2025 by councilor Sutton.
[1:32:14] Seconded by councilor Banwegg, we can now open the floor for discussion, as they're
[1:32:18] discussion on that motion.
[1:32:20] So I had the chance to get my vote.
[1:32:22] Question.
[1:32:22] Thank you.
[1:32:23] Your significant glance still made us my turn.
[1:32:27] It's a staff requested postponing to sit down to 16th.
[1:32:33] If Mr. Sutton, if there's a reason not to or between the two and I'll throw one more question
[1:32:39] ever to staff to complete my discussion points, the gentleman who came in said that, so my
[1:32:47] understanding is the project we require, conditional approval from the beginning, the gentleman
[1:32:52] said that what commitments, so commitments were made by city staff in this process, and I just
[1:32:59] like not knowing all the details wanted to get a recap in here somewhere between the
[1:33:04] second and the 16 of what's the other half of the story.
[1:33:13] Is that all Councilman like that?
[1:33:14] That's it for me. Thanks. Additional council comment? Council President Foster? Yeah, I don't
[1:33:20] know why staff wants the 16th, the change that Mr. Sutton and I have been discussing is not
[1:33:28] extensive.
[1:33:30] It's just because the land development code has a grid of what's permissible and in
[1:33:34] that greater conditional distance requirements, it would be good just to have it at one
[1:33:40] workshop.
[1:33:41] It's not so involved, but it would be, let's just call it, a pain to try and amend it in
[1:33:47] meeting as we're trying to pass it.
[1:33:50] So I think we need one workshop in order to do that.
[1:33:54] One of the comments that was made by Mr. Bastick was
[1:33:59] that this would substantially limit his property
[1:34:03] because of the commercial uses that are allowed
[1:34:07] within District 2.
[1:34:09] There really are just about, I mean, sort of bed and breakfast
[1:34:13] and city parks and city facilities and publicly accessible areas.
[1:34:20] This is the only commercial possibility and he had made mention to me that he believed
[1:34:30] that we were substantially changing the valuation of this property.
[1:34:34] I did send Mr. Besteconemiel regarding zoning changes under Village of Euclid versus
[1:34:40] It's an amber reality in 1926 that municipal zoning regulations are constitutional unless they're clearly arbitrary and unreasonable having no substantial relation to the public health safety morals or general welfare.
[1:34:56] Here the zoning change is related to the general welfare of residents.
[1:35:00] Financial properties, permitting adjacent owners, the quiet enjoyment of their property, quiet enjoyment, referring to a homeowner's right to be free from unreasonable disturbances or interferences by nearby tenants.
[1:35:13] So that is the section under which it's ironic that it is Village of Euclid that's kind of the landmark land development code, case used in law that allows for councils to make land development code changes.
[1:35:29] that are not arbitrary, and I don't believe this is arbitrary at all, but I do believe that
[1:35:36] the current setbacks, given the fact that it would be moved out of District 2, could be
[1:35:41] punitive to his properties that he currently owns, and other properties that he could move
[1:35:46] into. So, I'd also report postponing into a date, sir.
[1:35:51] Mr. Fitzgerald, did you have a question?
[1:35:53] I had a comment, the question was raised in particular why there was a request, the request
[1:36:00] to September 16th in particular, came from my office and for legal reasons that we don't
[1:36:08] necessarily want to get into here our request is that we go to the 16th, we're going to work
[1:36:14] on some process questions and then it doesn't change the substance at all, it would simply
[1:36:19] allow us to my office to work with staff to alleviate a few concerns.
[1:36:27] Thank you, Mr. Pitchford.
[1:36:30] Mr. Sutton?
[1:36:31] Just a reminder that discussion on emotion to postpone is supposed to be only about the
[1:36:36] postponement of the item, not the merits of the item.
[1:36:41] So given that, I'm going to amend my motion to go to the 16th based on the solicitor's feedback.
[1:36:49] I'll second that.
[1:36:54] Proper process since Councillor Bangwegg was the seconded the first motion since he amended.
[1:37:00] We are now looking at a new motion amended.
[1:37:03] I'll second that.
[1:37:04] Okay.
[1:37:07] Any additional comment on that motion?
[1:37:17] If no further comment, Mrs. Wheeler, will you please roll call a vote on postponing legislation
[1:37:25] item 25-92 to a date certain of September 16th, 2025.
[1:37:32] After bird?
[1:37:33] Yes.
[1:37:34] Mr. Foster?
[1:37:35] Yes.
[1:37:35] Dr. Gets?
[1:37:36] Yes.
[1:37:37] Mrs. Heeter?
[1:37:39] Mr. Bainway?
[1:37:42] Yes.
[1:37:45] Thank you.
[1:37:46] And since that was a motion after the motion originally to pass, that motion to amend legislation item 25-92
[1:37:54] does pass by vote of seven in favor to zero against.
[1:38:00] He said motion to amend it was a motion to postpone.
[1:38:02] Posted to postpone to a date certain correction on that.
[1:38:06] So these were separate motions.
[1:38:08] So we are back to the main motion.
[1:38:10] I've been postponed.
[1:38:12] Yeah.
[1:38:12] Correct. Okay. Sorry.
[1:38:14] I've turned around with some of the dates and changes.
[1:38:17] Okay. So that motion to postpone again has pass by a vote of seven
[1:38:21] favor to zero, cancel for a legislation item 25-92. That concludes that item. We will move on to
[1:38:28] item C on legislation, which is item 25-119. It's an ordinance codifying the right to operate a
[1:38:35] low speed under speed utility vehicle or mini truck in the city of Hudson. This is a first reading
[1:38:42] tonight. As such, that concludes section 12 on legislation, which moves us to section 13 on a
[1:38:50] As there's no further public business covered by this regular City Council meeting, do we have a motion to adjourn?
[1:38:56] Move to adjourn. Second.
[1:38:58] Thank you, Councillor Banyig. Council President Foster, are you second to that? All in favor of adjourning, please say aye.
[1:39:04] Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none, this regular City Council meeting is so adjourned at 909 p.m. on August 19th, 2025. Thank you.