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we launched Hunchville Music Month in September to uh make sure that jazz

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in the park is a pillar of that month and so we'll be kind of gathering

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up and reaching out again to talk about uh all things,

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uh, Huntsville Music Month and so to be able to announce this first ahead

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of everything is something we're really proud of and so a reminder these

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concerts.

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Free and open to the public in the new venue at Big Spring Park West,

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which means whether you're a jazz aficionado or just curious,

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there is a space for you out there, and that's what we want to keep building

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a music ecosystem where everybody feels welcome and we're attracting world

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class talent.

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I hope you'll mark your calendars for, uh,

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every Sunday in September.

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Bring a lawn chair, bring a blanket, um, and join us to celebrate some of

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Good evening and welcome everyone. So August 28th, 2025, 5:30 p.m., and we are gathered

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to convene this meeting of the Huntsville City Council in the chambers in Huntsville, Alabama

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We welcome all those who have joined us tonight. We have lots of opportunities to celebrate

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and we look forward to all of those who have joined us for that purpose. We are excusing

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Council President John Meredith who is traveling. We wish him safe travels and look forward

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to having him return on the on the September 11th meeting. We will begin our meetings as we

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usually do with invocation and Pledge of allegiance. Our invocation today will be

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offered by uh Alabama Public Safety chaplain, Ethan Ryan, followed by the Pledge of

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Allegiance offered by or led by council member Michelle Watkins All those who are willing and

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able to do so, please stand. Let's pray I call it in heaven though I just thank you and

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praise you so much for who you are. I thank you for, for creation. I thank you for

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sustaining us. I thank you for protecting us. Well, I thank you so much for our city

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council members. Well I thank you for our mayor, Lord our city attorney, uh, who worked

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so hard for our city. Lord, I pray that you would watch over them and you would protect them

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Lord, they was, uh, go to you and seek, seek your wisdom and not their own. Do I thank you

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for all the organizations that are represented here today, though I think specifically of

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Alabama A&M. Lord, I thank you so much for their 150 years of service to our community,

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educating, uh, the future of, of the city, where I know there's many products uh of

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that institution represented here at the Whites, thank you so much for that. Right, thank

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you for their slogan that Service is sovereign. Well, I thank you so much that you are

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sovereign, that you watch over us, Lord, you desire what is best of us. And Lord, I pray

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that we would live every day striving, uh, to make the world around us a better place, uh,

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sharing your glory with those around us. Lord, I pray you be in this meeting now. Lord, I

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pray that your presence is truly felt in Jesus' name I pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it sta one

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day under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Chaplain Ryan. Thank

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you, Ms. Watkins While Council President Meredith is not with us. All the other council

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members are, and we have established a quorum. We'll move on now to the business of

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the council. Item 3 is approval of the agenda. Council members, please note that item 9A has

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been removed because the property is now in compliance. Are there any other changes to

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be made to the agenda. Seeing none, the agenda will stand approved. Item 4, approval of

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the minutes of previous meetings. Item 4A is minutes of the regular meeting of the city

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council held on August 14, 2025 Are there any changes or additions to be made to these

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minutes? Hearing none, the minutes will stand approved. That brings us to special

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recognitions. We will start with the mayor's special recognition. 5A is a

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presentation of appreciation from the Monte Sano Civic Association to city employees

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for their dedicated support and service following recent tornadoes. We're going to ask

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um Mr. Joe Pinnock to come forward and we have a microphone. The mayor, uh, Mr.

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Mayor, would you like to go down there? Oh. face the crowd Um, I'm, uh, certainly honored

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to be here to represent the first speaker for the Monte Santo Civic Association. I'd

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like to thank the mayor and all of the council members and all of the city workers behind the

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scenes that actually pull all of this together what we have this opportunity to speak. Uh,

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my wife and I have lived here for 30 years and we've had lots of ice storms. Uh, we've been

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through snow, but the city workers always, always come through. And this time it was

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really special, um, the city workers were there within an hour. They were working, they

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worked nonstop. They worked through Memorial Day weekend, and um, they obviously had a

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plan and it was well thought out, you know, everything moved uh, the just as it should to

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get us as um back, back to our neighborhood is, is soon as possible. And um, they say, you

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know, there's a picture says it's 1000 words. Well then a video would be 1000 pictures

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and the Civic Association with some help with some really talented volunteers has put a

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short 2 minute video for you to kind of showcase what we're here for. I see And the

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community has put together a, a small card to thank all the workers and um I'd asked I'd

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like to ask uh Klaus Berger. He's one of the longest living residents of Montecino. He was

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born in Germany, moved here 75 years ago when his dad arrived from Fort Bliss with the Von

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Braun team and also Aidan Weiss is one of the newest uh mountaineers. He attends first

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grade at Montecito Elementary, Aidan and enjoys camping on Montecio State Park. and

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swimming at the Montecito pool. If you too would come up with a card, please. Would we like to

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get Mr. Little to accept it since he was the star of the um text texting wars. Mhm Thank

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you for that great video. I think we got oh, we don't care but the people do. Um, thank

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y'all, uh, Mark Byeers, we have Public Works, Huntsville Utilities. folks here, they

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want to come up. We even got some coppers in the back, Chief Giles, I don't know if you want

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to send anybody up because y'all were up there too. Um just for a photo op. let's put

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it here, let's just do it. I'll hold it. I got it. All right, there you go. You want to come

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on the other side All right, so they can see faces. Yeah. Hey. All right, 12 right. Thank you.

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We don't often get that opportunity to do those kind of public thanks. One more comment

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Yes, so just to quickly wrap up you can't get 94% of the people to agree on the time of day

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this year, so it's wonderful to see we had this kind of unanonymity about the city's

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response. Uh, in a previous company I worked with cities all over the world, about 4000.

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I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly in city management and I can assure you here that

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this is one of the best managed cities, not just in America, but in the world. Well done.

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And I would be remiss if I didn't point out something important here. Klaus Bergler,

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Klaus uh came here 75 years ago with the Vaughn Brown team. That's an important anniversary

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and they've left us a great legacy. Once this was a little town of 13,000 people. and

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because of them and their American counterparts, it's now the most livable city in the

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United States. We often take this legacy for granted, but I think it's the most important

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legacy of the 20th century. Think about it. 5 years before they came here, these Germans

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had been trying to kill a bunch of Americans. Who did they hire when they come here? The first

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GI War bill graduating class, but they put aside their differences. They focused on a

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common goal, and they achieved a goal, the century's greatest achievement that many thought

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was impossible. Now the, the good book says that we should turn our swords into plowshares

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These former enemies did it one step further. They turned their swords into spaceships. Now 75

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years later, these are polarizing times, and I'd like to encourage all of us to learn

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from their example, put aside our differences, work for the common good and continue to do

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the impossible. Thank you Thank you, Ralph Petro Thank you Thank you, Mr. Petro. Thank you

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Mr. Petrov. Mr. Pinna, all those and Montesanto Civic Association for those kind

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words and recognition for our exceptional department heads and communityartners. Item 5B

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is a proclamation to recognize and honor the remarkable accomplishments and historic

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milestone of Alabama agricultural and Mechanical University on its 150th

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anniversary, the celebration continues. Mayor Battle. OK Madam President, we have a

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proclamation and a resolution tonight which is very unusual and Ms. Watkins, if you would

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come join me down here, uh, to do the presentation and Doctor Wims, and if you want to bring

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the whole Bulldog nation, you can, if we got enough room up here for them. Please come up.

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You. Good to see you Come on I told you. should you do one che or start. signature on this.

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right, we got a meeting to get too serious. Yeah, I was putting you in the mix All

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right There we go, perfect. thank you Mm All right, the reason that we have 150 from

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the Bulldog Nation here tonight is because we are celebrating 150 years of Alabama A&M

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providing education, providing for our people, providing for people to have a better life,

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uh, education is a key to opportunity. Opportunity is the key to doing well in life and

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uh to having jobs and to and to uh being able to raise families and do all the things that we

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want to look forward to people doing in the city of Huntsville Doctor Wims, we wanna say

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congratulations on being here 150 years. I know that you weren't there when we started

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off 150 years ago Although it may feel like it some days, but uh, our, our proclamation has a

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lot of whereases, but I'm going to let Miss Watkins read hers because I have a feeling we're

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they're about the same whereas is there, uh, but I'd love for Ms. Watkins to give a sense of

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the, uh, the declaration and the pro the proclamation, uh, and, uh, talk a little bit

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about A&M and the importance and I was just gonna wrap up with my comments. OK, we don't

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have glasses, so we're doing an audible here whereas Alabama A&M Mechanical University,

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Alabama A&M is a publicly historically black land granted university whose rich heritage

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and bold vision continues to shape and the legacy as it marks 150 years of excellence,

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whereas the university was founded in 1875 by Doctor William Hooper Counsel, and

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whereas Alabama A&M remains steadfast in its core values, placing students first

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upholding excellence and integrity, embracing diversity, fostering partnerships, and

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cultivating global awareness, whereas is the largest historically black college and

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university in Alabama. Alabama A&M provides a student-centered environment. whereas Alabama

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A&M stands as an anchor institution driving transformation through record

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enrollment. Congratulations on the record enrollment this year too. Uh, infrastructure growth

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broad uh brand expansion and national recognition is one of the top producers of minority

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graduates in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics, whereas the

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university's bold leadership, that's you, Dr. Wimps, and enduring legacy continues to

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inspire progress and serve as a model of excellence in higher education. Now, therefore it be

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resolved that the city of Huntsville proudly recognizes and celebrates the historic

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150th anniversary of Alabama agricultural and Mechanical University and commends this

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remarkable achievements and lasting impact. Be it further resolved that this proclamation

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is presented in honor of Alabama A&M's unwavering commitment to academic

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excellence, innovation, community service, and transformative leadership. Now

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therefore, I, Tommy Battle, mayor of the city of Huntsville do hereby commend our Alabama

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A&M for 150 years of visionary leadership and invaluable contributions and call upon all

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citizens to join in celebrating this esteemed institution and its enduring legacy. Thank you

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so much, Doctor Williams. And and to the Bulldog Nation, Miss Watkins. Good evening. Thank

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you everyone for coming out. Who would have thought at the tender age of 27, a former

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slave would start a university that is now internationally known. The Alabama A&M

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University where I learned service is sovereignty. That is why I'm standing here now. It's

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always been embedded in us at the university to serve, and that's what we do. And with the

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record enrollment, I want to say one of them is yours truly's grandson. Take care of

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my package. and he's very excited to be on campus, but I want to talk about the things

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that Anna does. We have one of the best engineering programs in the state. Throughout the

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nation it's known. We had the very best student, I mean teacher education program that

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I graduated from. Internationally known and had the highest enrollment of any

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education center in North Alabama. Alabama A&M University social work program is second

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to none, and we have record enrollment there as well. So I want you to know it's some

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great things going on at Alabama A&M University. We are excited about the 150 year

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anniversary and we're more excited about football season it's gearing up. So if you want

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to come out and have fun, please join us. But if you're ready to go to school and get

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an education that's worthy of any education. I put it up against any school. Come to

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Alabama A&M University, you will be loved. Doctor Wims, would you, would you give us a

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response? Uh, thank you for putting me on the spot, Mr. Mayor, but, uh, in deepest

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humility, uh, as I stand here with the councilites and normalites. Those of you who

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are graduates understand what I'm saying. Uh, it is a seminal moment for our institution and

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for our constituents. and I'm just deeply humble that you're honor the Mayor and council

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lady, Michelle Watkins, who was an alum as well as the other council members would recognize

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us in this way. Uh, I have a team here, so it's not any individual of us, it's all of

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us, and what the leaders of the cabinet members who have the provost here, the vice

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president for research and development as well as the leaders of the 150th campaign,

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which is Vice President Ali marketed communication and Advancement and then Vice

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President Reeves, who's leading our efforts on federal, uh, state and local governmental

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side we have had enormous success, but it's due to some of you who've also supported

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this institution in its trajectory. So I'm very, very humble, very very pleased. I I

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think, Mr. Mayor, that we're having some significant impact economically in your city and

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in the county of Madison, and we will continue to do so and continue to grow with your

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support and your help, and with this council's support and help So thank you all, Reverend

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Doctor William Hooper Council would be proud today that 150 years later we're still

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recognizing the institution but calling his name Thank you very much. May God bless you all.

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Thank you, Mr. President, and we also will point out that Mr. Kling is also an alumni of your

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of your group who is sitting right behind us. cheering us on $1500. That's. Yes sir. Yes sir

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yes sir. Yes sir. Thank you so much for coming here and thank you for making, uh, help

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letting us make this a very special year for, uh, the Bulldogs and, um, as we get on

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the football field, we're all yelling, go Bulldogs. Oh. you do Yeah Hey. you see at you huh

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see and tell you What a great way to wrap up that. that presentation and proclamation.

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Um, to make it official, though 6A is a resolution celebrating Alabama A&M University's

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historic 150 year legacy of leadership and service. Ms. Watkins, would you like to move

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to approve. All in favor say aye, aye. And I'm not even mass for opposition on that one

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because it just wouldn't be right. So, uh, the motion is approved, and many thanks to

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all those who've contributed to 150 years of incredible service 6B is a resolution honoring

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Vicky Guerreri for her steadfast leadership and unwavering dedication to the

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community, the chair moves to approve. All in favor indicate any opposed. The motion carries

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we would like to invite Ms to come forward. and ask the mayor to join us. You can carry that.

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To the council members and the, and the public, uh, I think I first met Vicky and she was at

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the desk at the South precinct, uh, working as a volunteer and every time I came, I thought

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she worked for us because I thought she was getting a paycheck because she was there.

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Every time I came in and she was volunteering down there. Um this was before we even had

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Citizens Advisory Council or anything else. This was, uh, this was way back, uh, 17 years

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ago, and she was always a stalwart, always there to help make the community a better

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place and Vicky, we're so proud to be able to do a, a resolution for you, for all

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years of service and to want to say thank you for those years of service. It means a lot So

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this, this resolution is so special. I'm, I don't like to read resolutions, but we're

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going to read most of it this time. Whereas the city council and the mayor of Huntsville,

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Alabama wish to recognize and honor Vicky Guerreri for her decades and it really is

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decades I've dedicated service, steadfast civic leadership and tireless commitment to public

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safety and community engagement strengthening neighborhoods, fostering trust, and inspiring

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future generations of leaders. Vicky, a Kentucky native, has called Huntsville, Alabama her

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home since 1982, bringing with her the values of resilience, adaptability, and service

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learned as a proud US Army spouse. Vicky since 2010, she has faithfully served as

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District 3 representative on the Huntsville Police Citizens Advisory Council under 5 chiefs

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of police, chairing the 2021 Comprehensive Huntsville Police Review that was really tough

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duty. Advancing transparency and accountability and contributing to initiatives

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including body worn cameras, equitable disciplinary policies expanded mental health crisis

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intervention training, the Alabama Multi-agency Crime Center and Citizen involvement

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in incident review boards. Her volunteer service extends widely across the community,

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including leadership roles as a founding executi board member of the Huntsville South Civic

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Association, president of the Hillwood Estate Civic Asso ci ation member of the Madison

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County Personnel Board, board member of the Huntsville Area Crime Stoppers and member of

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the General Federation of Women's Clubs Legacy. She has devoted her life to

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strengthening neighborhoods, promoting public safety, building police community

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partnerships and mentoring future leaders, leaving an indelible mark on Huntsville's

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civic fabric. She is also a devoted mother of two sons and a proud grandmother of 3

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grandchildren who remain her greatest inspiration and mo t iv ation to foster a legacy of

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community leaders and services. There's just so much Now, therefore, be it resolved that

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the city council and the mayor of Huntsville hereby recognize and honor Vicky Guerreri for

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her steadfast leadership. Decades of volunteer service and unwavering commitment to

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public safety, civic engagement and community building, and extend deepest appreciation for

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her enduring contributions that continue to strengthen Huntsville and inspire future

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generations of leaders. presents you with this proc your copy of this proclamation

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and thank you so much. I just say I'd like to say thank you very much for this honor. It

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has been a privilege to serve um, through, um, all these years. and I know we did a lot

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of good and it's a really good feeling and I was blessed with a very good counsel to work

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alongside all of our members are very hardworking people. and I'm accepting this also in

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their behalf too. and um thank you very much. I gotta stop or I'm gonna start crying. Could

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we, could we have the chief come up? and you've got some of your command staff here, Chief,

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Chief Hudson. others Lee gonna get a picture with you take Yes he came all the way down here.

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We got get down. Let me get, make sure my good ears on there I'll see funny. Thank you all

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Thank you you. I've always said that we have lots to celebrate in our community and it's

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wonderful to start a council meeting with so much celebration. And now we go on

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to the business. Uh, we have no announcements and presentations no matters with outside legal

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representation. We do have a couple of public hearings to be held. 9A has been deleted

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because the situation has been remedied. That brings us to 9B, 9B. Now is the time and place

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for public hearing in order to hear, consider, and act upon all objections or protests, if

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any, for removal of a public nuisance at 2407 Oakwood Avenue Northwest, Huntsville, Alabama,

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and consideration of a resolution ordering abatement of a new nu is ance located at

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the same property. This was set at the August 14, 2025 regular council meeting, Mr. Irwin.

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Council members, Mayor Battle, Scott Irwin, the Community Development Department. Uh, the

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resolution before you at the public hearing to consider any objections regarding a junk

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public nuisance, uh located at 2407 Oakwood Avenue, uh, and this is authorization to abate

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that public nuisance. Uh, the video before you is on recent photographs of the conditions

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on the property. The public hearing is now open. Is there anyone who wishes to comment?

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Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on this matter. Hearing none, the

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public hearing is closed. Is there a is there a motion to approve the resolution to

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approve Motion from Mr. Little, second from Ms. Watkins. Any discussion? All in favor,

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please indicate and he posed. The motion carries. Thank you, counsel Members. This moves us

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then to item 9C. 9C now's time and place for public hearing on the zoning of 27.61 acres of

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land lying on the west of Old Big Cove Road and north of Beauford Drive to residents 2

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District and the consideration of an ordinance pertaining to the same. This was set at the

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July 10, 2025 Regular council meeting. Mr. Nunez, good evening, council members. Mayor

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Battle, Thomas Nunez, manager of Plant and zoning Services. This item is located west of

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Obio Road and north of Beauford Drive. It was recently annexed into our city limits. It is

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overall 27.61 acres. The petitioner is seeking to zone the property residents to

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District. with a plat restriction that will restrict the uses that's permitted by

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Section 10.1 of the zoning ordinance, while also offering another plied restriction to

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lots of residents 1B of 60 ft and lot area of residences 1B of 7500 square feet. Thank you,

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Mr. Nunez. The public hearing is now open. Is there anyone here who wishes to comment on

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this matter. Please come forward to the podium and give us your name and city of

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residence. Joy Johnson, I live on West Arbor Drive in Huntsville. Um I it it looks

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like maybe that's a farmhouse and it used to be a farm. So I find myself again saying we

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need to preserve farms. um, more than we need to, uh, give tax breaks to uh drone

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companies. Um, also one of these plat restrictions was just a code. I have no idea

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what that is. I wish I did know and I'd like to, um, suggest that anytime a zoning or

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annexation or anything of this character comes before council, uh, that recognition,

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acknowledgement of what is there now is given before suggestions of what is going to

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be there. as just a possible tiny window of thinking about things a little bit differently

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maybe opening the possibility of thinking about how we need to preserve farms or whatever

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might be there that might need to be preserved if we acknowledge what's there before

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we decide to build houses all over it. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Johnson Is there anyone

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else who wishes to comment? Hearing none, the public hearing is closed. Is there a

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motion to approve the ordinance No promotion from Mr. Little, second from Mr. Kling. Is there

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any discussion? Questions for Mr. Nunez? All in favor, please indicate by saying aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, council members. Thank you Mr. Nunez. That concludes our

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public hearings. We have 3 public hearings to be set. 10A is a resolution to declare a

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public nuisance located at 10:13 Kinsey Drive Southeast, Huntsville, Alabama, and to set

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the date for when objections will be heard to that date is to be set for the September 11,

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2025 regular council meeting. Is there a motion to approve approve. Second the hearing for

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Mr. Kling, thank you. Second from Mr. Kling, the hearing is set for September 11, 2025. 10B

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is a resolution to declare a public nuisance located at 3506 Gay Street Northwest,

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Huntsville, Alabama, and to set the date for when objections shall be heard. Move to set the

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meeting for September 11, 2025. 2nd motion by Mr. Little, seconded by Mr. Kling, all in

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favor, please indicate any opposed. The hearing is set for September 11, 2025. Resolution

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to set a public hearing on the zoning of 572.48 acres of land lying on the north of Bob Wade

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Lane and east and west of Mount Lebanon Road to residents to residents 2B, and Highway

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Business C4 districts and introduction of an ordinance pertaining to the same. Motion

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to set the hearing for September 25, 2025 from Miss Watkins, seconded by Mr. Kling.

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Any discussion? All in favor, please indicate by saying aye. And he opposed. The hearing is

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set for September 25. This brings us to a gender-related public comments. This portion

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of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the council on matters relating to

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specific content of items on the meeting agenda, individuals have signed up to speak uh on

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the agenda comments roster prior to the meeting. When called, please approach the

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microphone and state your name, home address, and city of residence. Each speaker may

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address the council for 3 minutes. Speaker shall refrain from entering into a dialogue

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with council members or city staff, and from making comments regarding the good name and

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character of any individuals. We have two people who have signed up. The first is Joy

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Johnson, the subject is agenda item number 2 I. Ms. Johnson. Joy Johnson. I live on West

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Harbor Drive in Huntsville. How are you guys doing? Long time no see. Um so just to start, 20

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I, I, this is, um, I, I, this is the first time I've heard about some railroad bridge

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project over Pinhook Creek, which is my neck of the woods. I would love to hear more about

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that if somebody might consider holding that for discussion and maybe getting some explanation.

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Um, I also noticed an item M20M as in Mike. um is about court code enforcement. Is this

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another way to uh get around, get in a city detect or something. I would like some

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reassurance that this is not another if you don't mind my saying, nefarious plot. Um,

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item S as in Sierra. uh I would love to hear if this is about public transit. We need to talk

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about public transit all the time, up one side and down the other. Please, uh, I think we

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would all love to hear what this grant would be going towards, that we are going to

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be applying Says an X-ray This looks to be like a contract with an AI company. And I will

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take every opportunity that I get to say we do not be needing to be used, using AI on any way

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shape or form, it is an energy hog at a time in history when we need to be stepping off

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using as much energy as we do. In fact, I'd like to propose that Huntsville proclaim itself

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AI free. and while we're at it, ice-free, but anyway, that's another issue. Um, and uh I, I

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would, uh, um, well, it's in item 21. So I know you're not inclined to discuss it, but be

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prepared that I'm gonna want to know about 21A and the uh human resources relations Commission,

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uh, not a gender bylaws, and, you know, what is actually being decided on next time when

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it comes up, OK? Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Johnson Um, the next person to sign up is Mr.

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Jeffrey Engel, Subject is police drone budget increases. Mr. Engle here. Well folks, my

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name is Jeffrey Engel. I live in Sherwood Park, um, with, uh, the North Alabama Democratic

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Socialist of America. Um, I would like to talk about the Skyfire contract that you guys

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are uh extending, uh, I, I guess. uh. building up a larger um, so for those of you not in

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the audience, not familiar, uh, we live in a surveillance state Uh, the, uh, police have flop

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cameras that watch your license plates and they uh document everywhere you drive. Uh,

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there's cellphone triangulation if you have it in your pocket, uh, they know where that is. Um

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and all of that data is put towards a fusion center, uh which is a center where uh law

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enforcement agencies are able to share all of that information to track you in

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every aspect of your life. Uh, to address the agenda item right now, Skyfire AI drones,

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uh, for the police department. Um, I do not think that you guys should extend, uh, I guess

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um enlarge in this contract, uh $25,000 per month. Uh, that could go to almost 8000 school

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meals, uh, instead of, uh, putting on uh an extension uh to a contract that will

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continue to surveil our communities. I will continue to be used to infringe on our

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privacy and we'll continue to be used to keep uh the American people uh down and watched. Um,

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so my proposal here is that you guys reject uh this uh expansion of the contract. Uh,

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it is what is in the defense industry called scope Creep. Uh they are increasing the amount

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of time and money uh that they are taking from your contract, um, and I guess Boeing is a

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very good example of that of a cost plus contract. That's what they're trying to get you into

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right now. And I suggest that you turn it down, but we do not want our our tax dollars used

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to surveil us. We want our tax dollars, as Mr. Tommy Battle said himself, uh, to provide

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opportunity uh to the community uh, instead of being used uh to keep us down. Uh, thank you, uh

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you myitan. Thank, thank you, sir Um, this brings us then to Mayor comments, Mr. Mayor

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Battle, the floor is yours. Good. Uh, thank you, Madam President, uh, and council. Uh,

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first off yesterday, the, uh, Metropolitan Planning Organization approved 6

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electronic traffic signs, which will be placed about the city parkway, North Parkway, South

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Parkway, 72 East, uh, 72 West, uh, and their traffic signs that can give you information,

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uh, there are information based uh signs as you come, uh, if you come uh up the parkway and

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coming over those hills where if traffic is stopped right in front of you, you have a big

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chance of having a wreck. Uh, the traffic signs will be saying, uh, congested traffic

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ahead, be careful, uh, they can say it's raining, slow down. They can say, uh, wreck ahead,

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seek alternate routes, those kind of signages will save lives in the city of Hustville,

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and I think it's one of the, uh one of the best technologies that we can put out in other

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cities across the state have are already way ahead of us. Uh we just installed two in the

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city of house where installing 6 more. It'll take about a year to get them in, but um they are

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great, great service for our community and they will make um uh they will make for safety on

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our roads. Uh, also, uh, this September is Music month. Um, there will be over 2040 events

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including jazz in the Park, uh, music events that will happen in September and I hope that

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everybody will take, will go out and take advantage of that. Uh, Ms. Watkins and I were at

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the back school parade on the 2 on Saturday the 23rd, uh, it was, uh, quite a production and

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there were a lot of people there. There were bands, there were, um, uh, school age

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children and, uh, and lots of and the superintendent of education wrote in the fire

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truck, uh, along with me and we got to talk about how, how, how much gains that we have had in

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our school system and I'm very proud of what he has been able to accomplish and achieve. and

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what we will achieve over the next year, um, this is, uh, the uh, we had also this week, uh,

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this past week we had the celebration of the 10th year of our cyber program in, uh,

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Huntsville and cyber Huntsville has been is 10 years old. It has provided jobs. It has

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provided economy and it's also provided a um a community that is, uh, much more intelligent

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than you'll find in the, in, uh many communities around, uh, as we go into those cyber cyber

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meetings. I'm probably, um, uh, I probably pull down the intelligent quotient a few

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couple of notches when I go when I go in, but they are very very intelligent crowd. And

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then, uh, last Sunday, uh, we had the 41st anniversary of the thirty-ninth birthday of Miss

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Betty Showers, uh, she hit 80 years old, uh, she was Dr. Shower's wife, uh, uh, widow,

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and she, uh, has been a, uh, a person of who has given back to this community time and time

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again and uh the there was, there were quite a few people there to celebrate with her and

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celebrate her 80th birthday. Uh this weekend, uh, starts, uh, the football, the pigskin type

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football, and, uh, we will start with uh games on Friday and then Saturday and uh A&M

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Bulldogs play Saturday and, uh, and, uh, all the other teams played in, uh, so it's be a

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start of a, a fall and a great fall to get us all started. I hope everybody will come out

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and enjoy, um, our community, uh, Saturday will be a good day to go shop because those chops

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will be not as full because people will be watching football, so, uh, I hope that

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you go out and and enjoy that and, and have a good time and um that's all I have. Madam

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President Thank you, Mayor Battle brings us to council member comments, um, Ms.

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Watkins, will you start us off? Thank you. Good evening everyone. Last Monday, um,

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August 18th, I had the pleasure of being a guest speaker at Hunts for Housing Authority's

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annual meeting. I appreciate, uh, Antonio McGinnis for extending that opportunity and

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on last Sunday I was with the mayor and councilman Clean. We celebrated Miss. Shower's

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birthday and um she was really surprised and they said it was hard surprising her, but she

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was surprised, and we had a really good time on last Thursday I attended with the

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mayor of the Good Neighbors event at Saint Barley Church, that is where AT&T distributed

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100 laptops to the students that attend um Village of Promise School. I thought that

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was really a phenomenal event. It shows that this community cares and it's just awesome

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when you have community partners who want to um be part of the education of the child

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and make sure they have every opportunity available to them. I also attended an ice cream

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social at Monrovia Flats on last Thursday with um House Authority director in Elmington

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the ones that, um, built and maintain the facility, and it was really nice, kids were

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having a great time and this past Saturday, the celebrating education parade. It was, it

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was just awesome to see, um, students from all across Huntsville come out to the

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district to celebrate and I want to give a special thanks to the police officers who

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helped with the traffic. who kept everyone safe. We didn't have an incident. I really

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appreciate you for that. And I want to give a special thanks also to Scott Irwin and Crisis

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Services, had an incident where I needed them to assist with someone and they came through

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and I really appreciate that. On this Saturday, and then we kick off their first football

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game, so hey, it's not at home, but you can tune in on television and then tomorrow

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night, if you have nothing to do. please come out and support Jemison Hunts for high football

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at Milton Frank. The kids need us in the stands. It's hard to look at a game when it stands

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00:48:48,637 --> 00:48:53,175
not full. I remember when I was in school, the stands were, it's like you couldn't find a

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seat. So tomorrow night hunts behind Jemison. David, I'm gonna see you there. night. Oh,

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sorry, no. Oh, my God, he don't listen to me. Auburn's playing tomorrow night we'll we'll

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excuse you, but if you don't have anything to do. No, go Jaguars Um, if you don't have

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anything to do, make sure you come out to Miller Frank and support our students, please.

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Thank you so much. That's right I'm sorry. I need to bring Shane Davis up to the

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microphone real quick. Um, Shane, um, is going to explain what's going on with the

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Northern bypass being named MLK Thank you, Councilor Watkins. Shane Davis, director of Urban

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Economic Development. So council members, uh, what is coming before you is the, uh,

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decision to name officially named a road that is under construction in District one,

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news media, and what we refer to as the Northern bypass. Uh, so this section of roadway

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that's under construction starts just east of Pulaski Pike and travels 1500 ft east

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of US 231. So the road that is under construction, there's been some confusion publicly

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about this. So I wanna take a moment just to explain to, to you and those who may be

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watching. So the road that is under construction is actually a state highway, so it's state,

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it's an extension of state route 255 that starts at I-565 and goes north through the

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northern part of our city. Uh, it's part of the reason we call it the Northern Bypass. There's

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two phases remaining that will ultimately connect to the east side of our city at US Highway

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72, completing a northern loop Um, regardless of your decision on us giving a local name of

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the row will officially per state because it will be operated, controlled, and

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maintained by the Alabama Department of Transportation will be state route 255.

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There's been, uh, some confusion that we are widening Bob Wade Lane. Uh, we are not

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widening Bob Wade Lane. We're not renaming Bob Wade Lane. That is not what you are

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considering. Uh, the existing section of Bobway Lane for the most part is being demolished

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to make way for State Route 255 So state route 255 has three names, so south of Interstate

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I-565 on to Redstone Arsenal is always been referred to as ride out Road. Uh, north of

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Interstate I-565, they're near Bridge Street, uh, common landmark to Highway Alabama,

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Highway 53 is referred to as Research Park Boulevard. Uh, the council before you back in

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about 2005, I believe. uh as that next phase was under construction that went from

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Alabama Highway 53 to just east of Plaskey Pike, the piece that is there today. I was

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designated as Doctor Martin Luther King Highway from a local, from a state and most

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Google Maps, it still shows up as state route 255. We have that all throughout our city.

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US 431 through the medical district is Governor's Drive and so on and so forth. Alabama

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53 is Pulaski Pike, Jordan Lane or Jordan Lane. So what your decision is, is to whether or

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not to extend the existing local designation that starts at Pulaski Pike and would carry

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through Memorial Parkway. That was the original intent of the existing road that is there

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today, and that's what you. Should counsel determine to vote no for that. The row would

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only have a signal designation a state route 255 because that is the state route and

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state-controlled highway. There is a small section of Bobway Lane that intersects at uh

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00:52:39,546 --> 00:52:43,950
Memorial Parkway. that will remain. It is undisturbed, if you will, from the rope project

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and it ties back into State Route 255. That section of Bobway Lane will remain Bobway

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Lane. I hope that provides some clarity Yes, thank you so much, Shane. I appreciate that. And

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just to clarify for the public's information, that a hearing will be set at the

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September 11th meeting for to consider that renaming and then the hearing itself will take

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place on September 25th, and the council will consider at that meeting also. I want to

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add one other thing. Um even at that meeting when you choose what the decision is to name.

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The name will not go into effect until we officially open state Route 255. So upon that

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vote, you're just approving for the final signage that would get placed when the road is

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completed early next year and open to the public. So the existing Bob White Lane is

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being used by the public because we're trying to keep access to residents. They would

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continue with that until this road is open. Thank you for clarifying that, Mr. Davis.

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Thank you. Um, is Ms. Smith here? Penny Smith? Miss Smith, can you come up to give an

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00:53:56,210 --> 00:54:00,628
update on the budget, please? Could we do that when, when we do the financial report was she

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asked me. my comments. but that I'm sorry. I What do you do the finance report. Is that OK? Mr.

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Kling Thank you, Madam President, it was my pleasure to join uh Mayor Battle and

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Council member Watkins and celebrating uh Betty Shower's birthday, uh, again, I think a

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lot of great things have been said about her, so I guess all I can say is really ditto.

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She's been a great personal friend and uh I'm just so proud that uh we have a community

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where we got 3 elected officials, kind of paying accolades to her for what she

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has meant to our community and again a belated, but once again Betty, happy birthday. Also, uh

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I know we've had people in the public that have asked us about seeing if we could stream city

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council meetings on Facebook, and I do understand that our staff people are looking into

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that and I appreciate their efforts on that. And finally, uh, if I could borrow the

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microphone, mayor, we have one little bit of recognition that we still need to get done and

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uh we were able to arrange this at the um kind of at the at the last minute I have a uh

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certificate that's been signed by the, the mayor and all 5 council members to recognize

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Sonia Infinger. Sonia, come on down. Sonya is uh Miss Senior Huntsville, and she's a member

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of the Miss Senior Alabama court. in Sonya and uh uh her husband Jeff have done so many

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things in our community. Sonia, I just want to give you a chance to let you tell our

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community about what you are doing and what missing your Alabama is all about. Thank you

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Councilman Kling, and also yes, I think we're on. Thank you so much, councilman, and to all

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the councilman and mayor, I appreciate your time and, and thank you all for all your

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service and what you do. I'm super excited to be a part of the Miss Senior Alabama court

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and that I am the name of Senior Huntsville and so my honor is to be able to serve

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the city of Huntsville. And so what I get a chance to do is to promote nonprofits, anything in

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the community to help bring greater awareness to our great city. And so as Miss Senior

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Huntsville, if you have any volunteerism that you would like, MSA to be a part of.

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Certainly all you have to do is go to Miss Seniorallabama.com and we're able to serve. We

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also serve across the state of Alabama and so not only just the city of Huntsville but the

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entire state and our mission and goal really is to help promote women, senior women to

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know that we have a purpose, a purpose-driven life, and we like to contribute and give

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back because what that does for us, it helps us to have longevity. You get plugged into

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your city, you're doing more for others, and that helps bring greater awareness to

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those nonprofits and to the city, the great city that we have here in Huntsville. And so

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it's my honor to receive this great certificate. Thank you, Councilman Kling and Councilman

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and Mayor Battle. Thank you, counsel. Uh, thank you for everything that you have done

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for our community, you and your family have done Legionary Legion work, and we very much

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appreciate, uh everything. Thank you Thank you again, Councilman Clain. Councilman,

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Little. Thank you, Madam President. Um, just would like to give quick shout outs to

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Public Works, traffic, engineering, and planning, um, uh, being responsive to

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citizens, uh, issues and concerns over the last few weeks and then I certainly hope

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everybody's football team wins this weekend. Thank you. Um, I had the opportunity this week

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to attend the Council of Neighborhood Associations, Lyle Voyles has served as president

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of the council for many years now, and he does a wonderful job gathering leaders from all

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the neighborhood associations across across the city. They meet monthly for those of you

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who have any interest in attending, it's a public meeting. They meet monthly. If

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you have a neighborhood association, a civic association, a community watch,

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or an HOA, I encourage you to attend. At the meeting this past week at Travis Cummings,

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our manager, our zoning manager came to answer questions about zoning enforcement, and boy,

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they had a lot of questions for him. Uh, he went away with some homework to do and to report

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back, but he answered so many questions that I think there's been a little bit of confusion

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on those meetings are well worth anyone's time to attend. So if you have an interest, I

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suggest you contact Mr. Boyles and find out when the next meeting is. If you're interest

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ed in forming a neighborhood association, a community watch, um, it, this would be something

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to for, for y'all to, to do. I've found that the strongest neighborhoods have the

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strongest connections with each other, and one of the best ways to start that is with a

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community watch or a neighborhood association. We saw a great example of it

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tonight with the Monte Sano, um Civic Association who was there not just to recognize the city,

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but I think a lot of it was their work that they do with each other to look out for each

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other and to ensure that the well-being of their neighbors. So, so please take a look at

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becoming uh active in the Council of Neighborhood Associations. That brings us to

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the Finance Committee report 14A is a resolution authorizing expenditures for payments.

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Watkins, would you like to make that motion? Yes, Councilwoman. Robinson I move that we approve

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the expenditures in the amount of $29,230,00483.04. 2nd. Second, motion made by Ms.

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Watkins, seconded by Mr. Little I, all in favor indicate by saying aye, and he opposed.

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Motion carries. Do we have a a finance report? Yes, Ms. Smith will come up at this time.

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Thank you, Ms. Smith. Thank you Good evening, Penny Smith, finance director of finance. Um

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tonight, before you, I'm just gonna give you a short financial update, um, for, for

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the city out of head of, it'll actually usually I give these at the quarter end, but we have

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all the July numbers in and so this will actually run through July and, um, and give us an

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update at that point. So a little bit about the economic environment that we're in right

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now. It is a shifting landscape um, kind of moving almost daily uh, between what happens um

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from federal government, which bleeds into our also our local government and so I'm not gonna

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read through all of this in general, things are the, the labor markets are kind of

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softening. Customer confidence is still a concern. You'll see in our numbers that bleeds into

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our numbers as we move forward. We're very much in kind of a, a level playing field. People are

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01:01:42,586 --> 01:01:49,460
still kind of holding back a little bit, but spending is looking a little better, um,

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inflation numbers, um, while the outlooks are rising, we still remain around the same

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01:01:53,396 --> 01:01:58,335
inflation numbers that we've had for a couple of months. So that is, that boats bodes well

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for the future to to remain a consistency and then also with the Federal Reserve, they,

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their outlook is for a downturn in their expectations that rates will be cut at the next

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meeting, which will be in September. So we are gonna look look towards that and that will

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that will go well for the economy as a whole. So we're gonna look at some specifics

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you have seen these graphics before. So this is for sales and use tax. This is all of our

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01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:36,172
sales and use tax. Remember that it supports not only our general fund, but also our

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schools and both of our capital projects funds the 1990 and the 2014 capital projects funds,

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year to date we are behind a little bit the prior year 0.7%, and we are under the original

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budget, um, at 80%, but remember we revised our budget mid-year and so we are, we are

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on that budget at 83.6%, just a teeny bit ahead for the fiscal year elapsed. So a couple of

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things, these are some selected revenues. So I kind of took out um, what's above uh the locally

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levied taxes there for sales and use tax which we already already looked at that, but I

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did want to point out a few things that are both ahead and behind in our sales um,

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feedback from somewhere. OK 00, sorry. Um, go ahead, miss. So, uh, the SSUT tax, it is 13%

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ahead at this year to date of last year and then it's at 88% of budget. So, um, so it is

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01:03:43,574 --> 01:03:50,447
doing well. It is helping with the, with the general fund. The the other revenue here, the

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01:03:50,447 --> 01:03:54,383
vast majority of this is actually coming from interest revenue, just like many other

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01:03:54,383 --> 01:03:58,188
people in the state and across the country, we are benefiting from those high interest rates

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for the past couple of years, and that, that also feeds into this particular July report, um

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but for, for the whole year and we should see that moving forward as well. They are

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remaining fairly consistent as we move out from there. Permits are down, um, we continue to

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see a kind of a decline. So we are coming out of a period where we had lots of very large

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industry projects and multi-family projects that that contributed to our permit fees,

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and we are back to kind of normalizing that and so that continues to come down. We

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didn't predict it to fall quite this far, but, um, but we are hoping that that levels out

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this year. You'll see the line actually right above it. I didn't flag it, but the line

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right above it is our license fees, and that is ahead of budget and, um, and it should

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come in quite well at the end of the year as well. And then overall just pointing to that

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final total line that we are 86% ahead of budget and about a little over 2, 2.5% ahead of

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this year overall. That is ahead of the revised budget, so we've brought that budget down,

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so we are doing well relative to that revised budget. For this is a flip side, this is

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again for the general fund expenditures through July. So looking again at a couple of

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these personnel is that 80% of the budget. Remember 83% of the budget has elapsed, so we are

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under budget for that and which makes our sub the subtitle for the departments are at 78%.

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That is typical, um, of the city. We usually come in around 5% below, and that is happening

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again this year within our department s Our total, so the appropriations are pretty much

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paid out. Remember we pay out most of those quarterly. So, um so those, those have gone ahead

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and pay out, it will not grow above 100% and then the total general fund is at 79%. So that

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looks well. That represents about, um, if we remain consistent at that level, it'll

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represent about $9 million which um below budget, which is about what we took out of the

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general fund, so we should be right on, um, with that, with that in line with those budgets

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even making a little bit towards the end of the year. The lodging tax revenue, so, so

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this is just one that we follow It is much smaller than any other revenue we follow, but,

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but it is very, we like to, um, it points in real time to both individual behavior and excess

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funds for travel and commercial and defense. I would point back to actually and I forgot to

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mention it, but within that slide, that economic slide, the GSA came out last month and

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said that our department for that a department of defense and for those, those numbers

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for PDM would remain the same, um, which was usually they raise it every single year,

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which helps us when we, when we have so much DFD travel within our area so, so that may

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reflect be reflected in this number as we move forward, but we will be careful with those

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projections, but we do believe that right now it is ahead of budget and the year to date

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collections are 6% ahead of last year. So we believe this will come in um ahead of, ahead

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of budget and on time. And so I want to, before I get to any questions, I just want to talk

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for a minute to the overall because I do kind of bring this hey, we've got level revenue.

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We've had sales and use tax been revised and so kind of this concern that that kind of

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that kind of looms over what is happening in the year. and while our revenues, um, sales

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and use tax being flat, um, we are doing well and other revenue streams and our

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expenditures as you just saw, look good. Our departments, um, hats off to all of them as they

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01:08:01,312 --> 01:08:08,587
manage their budgets and um and look towards the future with that physical in mind. And so,

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but we are physically stable. Our fundal, our reserves and our liquidity is strong. That

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not only speaks to our AAA performance in the markets, but it also speaks to, um, to just

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be in a good place as we move through the next physical year. Next month I'll be bringing

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before you, um the, the mayor's budget for y'all to present to y'all and um and so we'll do an

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introduction at the first meeting, we'll do, we'll have a work session on that next

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Friday, and then we'll do the, the second reading and actual vote for at the end of the

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month. So that will, um, this, this picture that as we go into that, we are financially stable

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and financially strong and I wanna be sure that Reiterate that Is there any questions Mr.

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Kling general assumption, just following up on what you said, uh, I would assume that we're

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probably in better shape fiscally than uh most cities around the country based on

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what I'm seeing in national news. I would like to say so. I mean, so much of that is the

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decisions that are made by the council and the conservative nature by which we treat um our

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financial stability, strong reserves and strong liquidity is a is a big portion of that

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having that cornerstone and that backbone in which to lean upon in lean times, so many

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cities bleed their city all the way down and um and we have never done that and so that has

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been just um it it's nice to have that whenever we need it. I believe best I can recall,

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there have not been any employee layoffs due to financial challenges, you know,

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programs being cut. here in the city. No, I'm absolutely not. Other questions Ms. Smith,

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thank you for your, you to you and your team for your leadership and also thanks to

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our department heads for being such great stewards of, um, the taxpayers' dollars. Great work

616
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from all. Brings us to 15 board appointments to be voted on. 15A is a resolution to appoint

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01:10:19,784 --> 01:10:23,588
Sasha Irby to the Community Development Citizens Advisory Council placed 3 to the seat

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previously held by Billy Lennox for a three-year term to expire April 14, 2028. Is there a

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motion to approve? Motion from Mr. Little 2 from Mr. Kling. Discussion, all in favor

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indicate by saying I, and he posed motion carries. 15b is a resolution to reappoint Claude

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Moore to the Board of Examinations and Appeals for struction Industries. Place 6th

622
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is current seat for a 3-year term to expire September 13, 2028. Move to approve. Motion

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for Mr. Little from Mr. Kling. Any discussion all in favor, please indicate by saying aye.

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Any opposed? The motion carries 15C is a resolution to appoint David Blair to the Huntsville

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Police Citizens Advisory Council Place 8, the seat previously held by Vicky

626
01:11:10,636 --> 01:11:16,707
Guerreri for a four-year term to expire August 1, 2029. The chair would like to make that

627
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motion seconded by Mr. Little in discussion. All in favor, please indicate by saying aye

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or any he opposed. Motion carries. Mr. Blair is appointed 16 board appointment nomination

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16A is a nomination to appoint Yolanda Caudle to the Huntsville Police Citizens

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Advisory Council placed 4 to the seat previously held by Willie Love for a four-year

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term to expire August 1, 2029. I move to approve Second, um, Ms. Watkins, would you like to,

632
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um, that there was a previous nomination made from the floor at the last meeting for this

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same seat. Yes, I nominated Linda Holmes from the floor, but um she did not want to

634
01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:08,626
serve, so I made another nomination so that's why. Let the record reflect that the

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nomination of Linda Holmes was withdrawn, and the nomination of Yolanda Caudle for to the

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01:12:15,234 --> 01:12:20,104
police, police Citizens Advisory Council place for to the seat previously held by

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01:12:20,104 --> 01:12:24,509
Willie Love for a four-year term is in place of that other nomination. Is there any

638
01:12:24,509 --> 01:12:30,849
discussion All in favor, please indicate by saying aye, and he posed the motion, or I'm sorry,

639
01:12:30,849 --> 01:12:35,320
that was for nomination only. We got ahead of ourselves. Uh, nomination only, there will be

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:41,580
no vote taken at this meeting. It will be considered at the September 11th, um, council

641
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:50,200
meeting. My apologies. a motion to change the, no, no, it was it was withdrawn. It was

642
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:56,740
withdrawn, um, no hunts for utilities items, no legal department items or

643
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transactions to be considered brings us to 19 unfinished business items for action. 19A

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is an ordinance to amend Chapter 5, Division 2 of Article 2 of the Code of

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Ordinances of the city of Huntsville. This does require motion. Move to proof, motion

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01:13:10,222 --> 01:13:20,222
from Mr. Little. Second from, uh, from Mr. Kling. Um, uh, is Mr. Fisher here? John Fisher,

647
01:13:20,632 --> 01:13:27,638
the director of, uh, our animal services. Good evening, council members, Mayor. This is the

648
01:13:27,638 --> 01:13:34,112
ordinance to amend Chapter 5 as it relates to the current fee schedule. Uh, the existing fee

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schedule has different rates for our residents versus services provided under service

650
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agreements with other agencies. This proposed um schedule would apply the same standards to all

651
01:13:46,524 --> 01:13:53,865
the entities, ensuring the cost of service is appropriately covered by all users. The only

652
01:13:53,865 --> 01:13:58,957
change for City of Huntsville residents is a small change for folks wishing to surrender

653
01:13:58,957 --> 01:14:08,898
their own pet to the shelter, um, it's a nominal, uh, uh, um, increase that um covers the

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01:14:08,898 --> 01:14:15,106
increased cost of vaccines and exams that we would have to do on intake. Um, there is a new

655
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investigative hold fee that is for criminal investigations were required to hold animals

656
01:14:21,979 --> 01:14:27,851
for longer periods of time, um, and they require, uh, more extensive care, more extensive

657
01:14:27,851 --> 01:14:33,524
documentation, and veterinary care. Are there any questions for Mr. Fisher? Questions about

658
01:14:33,524 --> 01:14:39,729
the ordinance. Thank you, Mr. Fisher. All in favor, please indicate and you posed uh, the

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ordinance is approved. Thank you. 19B is an ordinance declaring certain property

660
01:14:44,667 --> 01:14:51,341
surplus and to be disposed of for agreement with managed asset recycling Solutions LLC.

661
01:14:51,341 --> 01:14:57,548
Move to proof. Motion from Mr. Little, seconded by Mr. Kling. Any questions or discussion?

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01:14:57,548 --> 01:15:04,222
All in favor, please indicate and you opposed motion carries. That brings us to item 20 new

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business items for consideration or action. Are there any items anyone wishes

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to hold for separate consideration. Yes, sir. 20 F as in foxtrot and I as in India

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F and I, and I would like to do Mr. Kling. S and X S as in Sam was a request from report. And

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01:15:40,457 --> 01:15:50,457
Ms. Watkins, um, I have been called. I still want IMS. XNZ Zulu. Zulu. OK, let me make

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01:15:54,604 --> 01:16:04,604
sure that we've got everything item F. I I I M I S I X Item Z. Are there any others? Did, did

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01:16:17,494 --> 01:16:27,494
I get all of them? Because you're going to do that Could you run through F? I have to

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01:16:28,238 --> 01:16:38,238
have David do the phonetics on that. Item F, I I, India. M S X and Z. Can I get them all All

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:53,720
right. Then the chair moves for approval. Items A to E. G, and H. J J to L. Thank you. And to

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R. T2 W and item 2Y. Is there a second? Second from Mr. Little. All in favor, please indicate

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01:17:13,284 --> 01:17:19,890
any he posed. Uh, those items are approved and we will now move to separate consideration

673
01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:24,360
beginning with item F. Item F is a resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:29,833
between the city of Huntsville, Alabama and Grayson Carter and Son Contracting Inc. for

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01:17:29,833 --> 01:17:35,833
Tollgate Trail Improvements Project Project Project Project Project Project number

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01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:45,449
71-25-WP02. Um, chair makes the motion. 2,, 2nd by Mr. Mr. Little. Um Mr. Davis, will you

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01:17:45,449 --> 01:17:53,723
be making a presentation on that? You want me to take it, Shane Jane, you want me to take

678
01:17:53,723 --> 01:17:59,129
it there? You can. This is extension of our, our, uh, trail system that we're working

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01:17:59,129 --> 01:18:03,333
on with in partnership with the Land Trust and Huntsville Utilities. Huntsville Utilities

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is putting up $500,000 and land trusts put up $500,000. City cost is $760,760,700.31. and

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01:18:20,349 --> 01:18:25,289
it's to make toll gates rail improvements on that, uh, Tollgate project there. What

682
01:18:25,289 --> 01:18:31,828
did I miss, Shane You nailed it Mayor. Are there any questions, comments, Mr. Little? I held it

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01:18:31,828 --> 01:18:36,233
because this is my neck of the woods. This is an exciting project. Um, few people have

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01:18:36,233 --> 01:18:39,302
asked me and just wanted for clarity that they're worried we're going to be up there

685
01:18:39,302 --> 01:18:45,976
clear cutting the mountain to build this. It's actually along the old tollgate roadbed and I

686
01:18:45,976 --> 01:18:49,847
walked it with one of the mountain residents and uh other than probably just a few

687
01:18:49,847 --> 01:18:56,386
saplings and some stones. It's a pretty clear path and it'll get people from the, uh uh land

688
01:18:56,386 --> 01:19:00,524
trustst parking lot on Bankhead all the way up. safely off of Bankhead, and a lot of people

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01:19:00,524 --> 01:19:04,595
like to bike it, and this will be an alternative for them. Um, so I think it's going to be a

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01:19:04,595 --> 01:19:08,998
great addition to that area. That that's correct. So you know the trail is is, uh, the

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01:19:08,998 --> 01:19:15,138
mayor and council Little said we'll start at the existing parking lot and go up to Fern,

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01:19:15,138 --> 01:19:20,100
and uh it's a trail system that's already used, but one of the things that, uh, both North

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01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:25,415
Alabama Land Trust, uh, and then Hunt utilities come in in partnership with the city is we

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01:19:25,415 --> 01:19:31,288
have a lot of cyclist activity on Bank, Bankhead, and there's just not quite enough facility.

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01:19:31,288 --> 01:19:37,628
So what this will do is take a, a trail that is uh a non-paved, non gravel and put it in a hard

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01:19:37,628 --> 01:19:42,365
surface not only to extend our greenway but also provide bicycle, uh, multimodal through

697
01:19:42,365 --> 01:19:49,373
that, that area of the city. Well, is there still a plan to um extend it down to the uh

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01:19:49,373 --> 01:19:54,444
closed road along the shoulder of Fern. That's right, yes, so this is the first phase is the

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01:19:54,444 --> 01:19:59,515
most expensive phase just due to the terrain, right? OK, great. Thank you. That's all,

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Madam President. Any other questions? I guess I would also note that um while it was not

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01:20:04,854 --> 01:20:13,129
held the following item is the meat Greenway, and so we're going to be uh starting to

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01:20:13,129 --> 01:20:17,201
greenlight projects too long awaited agreement projects at the same time. That's correct.

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I apologize for looking puzzled when I walked up here because that's the one I was getting

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01:20:20,938 --> 01:20:29,145
ready to speak on and I know we celebrated Alabama A&M's 150th tonight. Uh, that project, uh,

705
01:20:29,145 --> 01:20:34,818
would not happen without, uh, some dedication of land for Alabama A&M and we want to

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01:20:34,818 --> 01:20:40,690
publicly thank them for that. So, uh, this, this trail is almost 2 miles. uh, and it will

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go, uh, from Winchester to Alabama A&M's campus. So it's the first piece of the Northern

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01:20:47,296 --> 01:20:50,835
uh, gateway belt line that we just had some public meetings. So this is, uh, one that has

709
01:20:50,835 --> 01:20:55,439
been in the works and, uh, finally was able to get all the right of way needed to get that

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started. So, uh, tonight, counsel, you're approving almost 4 miles of new greenway

711
01:21:00,178 --> 01:21:03,914
in the city. Thank you for that little update. I know it wasn't germane to our agenda topic

712
01:21:03,914 --> 01:21:10,987
there, but I felt like it deserved to mention. So all in favor, please indicate and

713
01:21:10,987 --> 01:21:17,327
opposed motion carries. Uh, item 2 I. 20i is a resolution authorizing the mayor to enter

714
01:21:17,327 --> 01:21:21,531
into an agreement between the city of Huntsville, Alabama and CSR Engineering Inc. for Peter

715
01:21:21,531 --> 01:21:28,731
Fain Railroad Bridge over Pinhook Creek Project number 71-23-SP23. Chairman's approval

716
01:21:32,141 --> 01:21:41,418
Second from Mr. Kling. Mr. Davis. Thank you, Dr. Robinson. So, um, as it's been long

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01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:46,823
awaited. Uh, we received a federal park grant, uh, for our build grant for our park

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01:21:46,823 --> 01:21:52,763
project downtown which has multifaceted pieces to it. It's a flood mitigation project, uh,

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that starts, uh, just on the north side of Holmes Avenue and goes into the low ill

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neighborhood crossing Governor's Drive and uh we're getting uh very close to

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advertising and bidding that, uh, project is part of that project. one of the major flood

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impediments downtown is the old existing railroad, Trussell Bridge, kind of behind the von

723
01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:18,588
Braun Center. Uh, that project will replace that bridge it's not our bridge, uh, it's

724
01:22:18,588 --> 01:22:23,126
actually owned by the Huntsville Mass Can Rail Authority. So through FRA

725
01:22:23,126 --> 01:22:31,526
requirements as we reconstruct that, um, we must provide, uh, funding for uh engineering

726
01:22:31,869 --> 01:22:34,539
inspections, third party inspections for federal rail authority, and Huntsville

727
01:22:34,539 --> 01:22:40,344
Madison Rail. That's what this will do is provide that on site uh, reviewed during the

728
01:22:40,344 --> 01:22:45,750
construction of that railroad trestle bridge. Questions from Mr. Davis. Yes, ma'am. Um, is

729
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:51,821
this uh the bridge project, is that eventually tying with the whole park grant project down

730
01:22:51,821 --> 01:22:57,161
there or is this, so, so that the, the, the large scale park project that that has been

731
01:22:57,161 --> 01:23:01,564
widely publicized on the news. We will actually bid that project in 3 phases because

732
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there's different specialties of that project. The first phase that the public will see

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01:23:05,635 --> 01:23:10,773
in the next couple of months will be the channel wide, the flood mitigation piece. Uh, so

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you'll see the widening of Pinhook Creek, a little bit of Spring Branch Creek as it

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01:23:16,179 --> 01:23:21,510
crosses Governor's Drive and, and things that will alleviate flood mitigation in areas of

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01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:26,189
our downtown where that we've experienced flooding. The next phase that you will see will be

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this, uh, railroad bridge. And the third phase will be pedestrian visa. There's

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actually, I know the quote sky bridge, um, I don't know how much I talked about this

739
01:23:35,332 --> 01:23:39,469
project that it's, you know, really a flood mitigation project and that seems to what

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dominates. It's only 20% of the project. uh will be bid, but there's 5 pedestrian bridges.

741
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Uh, there's one that crosses Pinhook Creek back into, uh, the Thrasher Fountain or the

742
01:23:51,481 --> 01:23:55,819
canal that goes between the embassy suites and the von Braun Center. There's a new

743
01:23:55,819 --> 01:23:59,889
vehicular bridge behind the embassy suites to provide better truck access to the back

744
01:23:59,889 --> 01:24:04,961
of the BBC. There's a pedestrian bridge that goes into the medical district and

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01:24:04,961 --> 01:24:09,167
then uh the bridge over the parkway and over Governor's Drive. Those will be bid at

746
01:24:09,167 --> 01:24:13,570
different phases and then the final phase will actually be the linear park piece. So it'll

747
01:24:13,570 --> 01:24:21,778
be the Greenway Trails, uh, bot repair stations, uh, benches, landscape, those type of things

748
01:24:21,778 --> 01:24:27,184
along a new linear park in our downtown that will combine about 12 acres of new linear

749
01:24:27,184 --> 01:24:31,387
park. Now that sounds very confusing and our engineering department's done a great job

750
01:24:31,387 --> 01:24:37,527
of staggering a schedule of letting these packages to where they will finish on time

751
01:24:37,527 --> 01:24:42,399
together. So we won't, you know be going through construction saying when will the public get

752
01:24:42,399 --> 01:24:46,469
to use this? When will the flood mitigation? But, but they're all different

753
01:24:46,469 --> 01:24:50,273
specialized contractors to do those types of work. Uh, but the thing to remember the first

754
01:24:50,273 --> 01:24:56,790
phase in the next 45 days, uh, we'll be bringing that first contract for your consideration

755
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:59,749
that will be used with the federal grant funds. Thank you. Is it too early to tell how

756
01:24:59,749 --> 01:25:05,556
long the railroad replacement, a railroad bridge replacement would take. Um, it, it is a new

757
01:25:05,556 --> 01:25:13,290
design, so it's concrete, it's pre-cast. Uh, so when we let that project, you won't see, uh

758
01:25:13,290 --> 01:25:16,966
immediate activity. Uh, the whoever the low bidder is will, will pre-order that, so it'll

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01:25:16,966 --> 01:25:22,305
take the manufacturer some months to do that. But once the those pieces get on site, I

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01:25:22,305 --> 01:25:27,243
would think, you know, 3 to 6 months it would be finished. OK great. Thank you. Thank you,

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Madam President. Any other questions? All in favor, please indicate and imposed. Motion

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01:25:32,183 --> 01:25:38,654
carries. Thank you Davis. 20m is a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute addendum

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01:25:38,654 --> 01:25:42,727
number one to the business agreement to implement technology between the city of

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01:25:42,727 --> 01:25:48,264
Huntsville, Alabama and Comkate Inc. for continued services related to the code enforcement

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01:25:48,264 --> 01:25:52,669
division of Community Development. Is there a motion to approve motion for Mr. Kling

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01:25:52,669 --> 01:25:58,141
second from Mr. Little Mr. Irwin. Oh, yes, council members Mayor Battle Scott Irwin, the

767
01:25:58,141 --> 01:26:01,945
Community Development Department. This is an addendum to an existing contract with

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Comate to do code enforcement software. So what that software allows our staff to do is open

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01:26:07,884 --> 01:26:13,557
track and close code enforcement cases such as overgrown grass, junk vehicles,

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01:26:13,557 --> 01:26:18,161
unsafe structures, of public nuisances. It also allows mobile functionality,

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01:26:18,161 --> 01:26:23,836
inspectors can enter case notes take photos, and update violations, uh, from the field

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01:26:23,836 --> 01:26:28,174
directed from their tablet or smartphone. Um, it also provides dashboards and reports

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to track performance, uh, look at trends and for enforcement outcomes. So it is a program

774
01:26:33,447 --> 01:26:40,854
we've been using for about 3 years, and this is a 1-year extension. Other question, Mr.

775
01:26:40,854 --> 01:26:46,525
Klain, just for clarification, since the concern had been raised. This is not the

776
01:26:46,525 --> 01:26:52,731
artificial intelligence issue that we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, correct?

777
01:26:52,731 --> 01:26:56,200
No, sir. This is data management of our of our system as its currently exists. Thank

778
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:02,609
you. Anyone else Um, I should note that at the Council of Neighborhood Associations this

779
01:27:02,609 --> 01:27:08,748
week, one of the issues that the, the focus was on zoning enforcement, but it evolved to

780
01:27:08,748 --> 01:27:14,870
enforcement of all our codes, and one of the concerns that was expressed was we have a lot

781
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:18,891
of codes on the books. They need to be enforced. And so this software is what helps us

782
01:27:18,891 --> 01:27:24,630
do that. You absolutely does. Thank you very much. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion

783
01:27:24,630 --> 01:27:29,568
carries. We will go on now to 20 S. 20s is a resolution authorizing the mayor to make a

784
01:27:29,568 --> 01:27:35,909
grant application to the Federal Transit Auth Administration for the FY 26 4

785
01:27:35,909 --> 01:27:44,909
mg. Motion from Mr. Kling. Mr. Little council member is a mayor. I'm Emma Walker,

786
01:27:45,118 --> 01:27:50,323
accountant for the Public transit department. Um, welcome Miss Waer in lieu of Miss

787
01:27:50,323 --> 01:27:58,530
Bryant, our director, um, this is our annual appropriation just applying for it, um, from

788
01:27:58,530 --> 01:28:03,602
FTA for our operating in capital budgets for FY 26. Thank you. I can't remember who

789
01:28:03,602 --> 01:28:12,110
held this. who had questions about it. We, we had a question from, from the public. And I

790
01:28:12,110 --> 01:28:20,411
guess just to clarify this, you're talking about buses. Yes sir. Shuttle buses, maintenance

791
01:28:21,954 --> 01:28:26,425
uh, those types of things. Everything in administration there. OK. You know, it's just

792
01:28:26,425 --> 01:28:34,225
total, total cost of $6,115,287 of the grant fund is $33,972,492. The city cost is

793
01:28:42,375 --> 01:28:48,782
$2,142,795. Yes, sir Any other questions All in favor indicate Any opposed? Motion carries.

794
01:28:48,782 --> 01:28:54,454
Thank you so much, Ms. Clark. 20 X is a resolution authorizing the mayor to

795
01:28:54,454 --> 01:29:00,127
execute modification number one to agreement between the city of Huntsville and Skyfire AI

796
01:29:00,127 --> 01:29:08,267
Incorporated. OK, I've makes the motion. Second by Mr. Little. Mr. Eland been asked by

797
01:29:08,267 --> 01:29:15,875
Chief Giles to uh to speak to this item, uh, basically, this is a resolution authorizing the

798
01:29:15,875 --> 01:29:22,682
the uh mayor to execute modification number one to the currently existing agreement

799
01:29:22,682 --> 01:29:29,154
between the city of Huntsville and Skyfire, uh, we are currently under a contract with

800
01:29:29,154 --> 01:29:35,628
this group to manage our drones as a first responder program. uh, under the current contract,

801
01:29:35,628 --> 01:29:44,837
we pay for 2 employees, uh, Monday through Friday from 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. They're FAA

802
01:29:44,837 --> 01:29:51,430
certified. They perform rooftop pilot in command and teller operator duties. The program

803
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:58,250
has been very successful and they're requesting to add 2 more employees, HPD is, uh, to,

804
01:29:58,250 --> 01:30:03,189
uh, 2 more employees for 2 additional days of service when being Saturday and Sunday, uh,

805
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:11,640
during the same hours, which is 30 p.m. to 11. Uh, and so the modification is for those

806
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:17,300
additional hours in those days. And again, this is a first responder program, very uh

807
01:30:17,300 --> 01:30:21,874
helpful and successful when there is an event and first responders there, the drones

808
01:30:21,874 --> 01:30:29,883
were able to get to that scene before vehicles on the, on the uh land can get there and for

809
01:30:29,883 --> 01:30:36,489
instance make an assessment early on as to the severity of the injury, for instance, in an

810
01:30:36,489 --> 01:30:41,494
accident or uh God for bi d there's a gunfight or, or some type of situation to determine

811
01:30:41,494 --> 01:30:47,633
the exact situation where there are armed individuals who are still there. These are, these

812
01:30:47,633 --> 01:30:52,704
are the type of services that are provided to help the first responders as they come to have

813
01:30:52,704 --> 01:30:57,977
a better idea of what they're coming to and if it's determined that the emergency

814
01:30:57,977 --> 01:31:03,984
is not quite as emergent. They don't have to tear through the city at a high rate of speed

815
01:31:03,984 --> 01:31:08,522
with all the danger that might be associated. So it's been a very successful program and

816
01:31:08,522 --> 01:31:16,728
there's a look to expand it. Questions? Yes, ma'am. Uh. so I've heard about these. I know

817
01:31:16,728 --> 01:31:20,660
they're, they're really great in those situations. I just wanna be clear they don't just

818
01:31:20,660 --> 01:31:24,270
fly around randomly filming people. Right? That's not what this is for. This is a first

819
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:29,141
responder program, um, and obviously a lot cheaper than us buying a couple of helicopters.

820
01:31:29,141 --> 01:31:35,214
I would say considerably cheaper. All right, thank you. That's all I have. Question.

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I'll make one comment when I visited the NAMAC, um, I got to see video of how quickly these

822
01:31:41,353 --> 01:31:48,695
drones can give them eyes on a critical situation, and they can, and then give the officers

823
01:31:48,695 --> 01:31:54,100
who are responding accurate information about what's going on, so they come in prepared to

824
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:59,905
deal with the situation. It's, I'm glad we're expanding it. It's very successful. Yes, Mr.

825
01:31:59,905 --> 01:32:04,910
Davis. I just want to make a comment. It's not germane to what, uh, directly to what

826
01:32:04,910 --> 01:32:11,317
you're about to vote on, but uh I do want to recognize that this company is headquartered

827
01:32:11,317 --> 01:32:17,723
here in Huntsville, uh, started here with two employees and now provide these services globally

828
01:32:17,723 --> 01:32:22,394
So, uh, they are a local company, local vendor. That's good to know. Thank you. Any

829
01:32:22,394 --> 01:32:27,267
other discussion? All in favor indicate and he posed motion carries, Sir, you're out of

830
01:32:27,267 --> 01:32:35,947
order. You can make comments after the meeting. So, sir, sir this is not an opportunity for

831
01:32:35,947 --> 01:32:40,850
you to have a conversation with us. You can make comments, uh, after the meeting if you have

832
01:32:40,850 --> 01:32:45,423
signed up. Uh, 20Z is a resolution authorizing authorizing the mayor to enter

833
01:32:45,423 --> 01:32:51,295
into a special employment agreement between the city of Hunsel and Kurt W. Worsick.

834
01:32:51,295 --> 01:32:58,702
Chair Mo's for approval There's a from Mr. Kling, um, Ms. Watkins, I believe you held

835
01:32:58,702 --> 01:33:06,977
this item. Do you have a question? I think the mayor is going to be this is yeah, this

836
01:33:06,977 --> 01:33:14,786
is our, our expert with the NAMAC, uh, who makes, uh, uh, Namack really roll. It's a one

837
01:33:14,786 --> 01:33:23,996
year contract and this is a renewal for for one year, and the city cost amount is 168,540

838
01:33:23,996 --> 01:33:33,996
annually. uh, total cost is, is again $168,168,540. The NAAC has been a very good tool to be

839
01:33:36,408 --> 01:33:43,548
able to use to uh make sure that uh crime, crime is abated and we keep crime down. Kurt

840
01:33:43,548 --> 01:33:50,487
has added, uh, the technology to it that, uh, makes it very, uh, uh, protects our, uh,

841
01:33:50,487 --> 01:33:58,630
citizens but also protects our policemen out there. comments All in favor, please indicate

842
01:33:58,630 --> 01:34:06,237
any he posed, motion carries. Um, item 21A. New business items for introduction. 21A is

843
01:34:06,237 --> 01:34:10,775
an introduction of an ordinance revising, restating, and consolidating the Human

844
01:34:10,775 --> 01:34:17,470
Relations Commission and its bylaws, pursuant to resolution number 94-633, which was

845
01:34:17,470 --> 01:34:24,121
adopted and approved on August 25, 1994. No action will be taken at this meeting, but it

846
01:34:24,121 --> 01:34:30,395
is for introduction only and will be considered at the September 11th uh regular

847
01:34:30,395 --> 01:34:35,534
council meeting that concludes all of our business and it brings us now to Citizen

848
01:34:35,534 --> 01:34:40,138
comments. We have a number of people who have signed up, and I will just read the little

849
01:34:40,138 --> 01:34:45,743
preamble for you. This portion of the meeting is reserved for for persons wishing to address

850
01:34:45,743 --> 01:34:50,810
the council on matters relating to city business, whether or not such items are on the

851
01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:57,421
meeting agenda. In individuals wishing to speak, um, have signed up on the 2nd public

852
01:34:57,421 --> 01:35:01,692
comments roster prior to or during the meeting, when called upon, please come to the

853
01:35:01,692 --> 01:35:05,564
microphone and state your name, home address, and city of residence. Each speaker may

854
01:35:05,564 --> 01:35:09,233
address the council for 3 minutes. Speakers shall refrain from entering into a dialogue

855
01:35:09,233 --> 01:35:13,771
with council members or city staff and from making comments regarding the good name and

856
01:35:13,771 --> 01:35:19,430
character of any individual. Please remember that the best way to communicate with council

857
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:25,249
members really is by email, phone conversations or one on one on one meetings with

858
01:35:25,249 --> 01:35:30,854
council members. So we will begin, uh, first person to sign up is Donald Campbell, Subject

859
01:35:30,854 --> 01:35:40,854
is smart meters is Mr. Campbell here. Hello again Uh, my name's Donald Campbell. My address is

860
01:35:45,269 --> 01:35:54,679
on record. A city of residence, sir. Madison, thank you, sir. Um well, a few people have

861
01:35:54,679 --> 01:35:59,550
presented a proposal for a smart meter opt-outs to hunt through utilities. For the

862
01:35:59,550 --> 01:36:08,920
record, I was not part of that. and the proposal, many requests were made that HU um Huntre

863
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:14,898
Toys HU is not about toomply with at this time I regret that they did not reserve such

864
01:36:14,898 --> 01:36:21,305
requests for our town council, as you are the entity with authority over HU. And then

865
01:36:21,305 --> 01:36:26,430
working on a proposal. and I still am to present it to you, which includes a layout of how

866
01:36:26,430 --> 01:36:32,643
to implement controlling legislation, which is financially feasible to HU. And

867
01:36:32,649 --> 01:36:38,990
there is more involved which I cannot divulge at this time. HU has responded with her opt-out

868
01:36:38,990 --> 01:36:44,462
plan, although it is called an AMI opt out. They are not guaranteeing that we can choose

869
01:36:44,462 --> 01:36:51,680
to have an analog meter, which is our main request and concern and there are many reasons why

870
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,540
we do not want any electronic meter besides the fact that they are physically harming us,

871
01:36:55,540 --> 01:37:02,480
which you've heard about before Um, HU did not agree to allow those opting out to send, it

872
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:09,220
did agree, excuse me, did agree to allow those opting out to send a photo of the meter

873
01:37:09,220 --> 01:37:13,240
reading each month, which is being done in other places. However, they still want to

874
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:18,290
penalize us with a fee. We should not be and refuse to be penalized for not allowing a

875
01:37:18,290 --> 01:37:24,368
device on our homes that harms us. All of our lives we've been paying for meter readers to

876
01:37:24,368 --> 01:37:29,574
read every meter. If the smart meters are saving so much money then it should be no burden for

877
01:37:29,574 --> 01:37:35,847
HU to retain a few readers, but if we are sending in the reading, which we must now do.

878
01:37:35,847 --> 01:37:44,522
we should not be paying anything extra for that. Uh, any such uh additional cost for

879
01:37:44,522 --> 01:37:49,727
that can be incorporated in the cost of the watt hours we're paying for. Uh, also, if HU is

880
01:37:49,727 --> 01:37:54,197
sure that everyone will suddenly opt out in bankrupt them. Studies have shown that

881
01:37:54,197 --> 01:38:02,673
only a mere 2% will opt out. There will be more as time goes on, but there will be time to

882
01:38:02,673 --> 01:38:10,281
make changes and new technology that will communicate without harming us. Uh, I again request

883
01:38:10,281 --> 01:38:16,353
that you, the council, write legislation. amending the code which regulates HU to make

884
01:38:16,353 --> 01:38:21,492
opt-outs long. I spent this summer studying this entire history with this battle of the

885
01:38:21,492 --> 01:38:27,831
meters all over the country and all over the world. We're in a time where industry is now

886
01:38:27,831 --> 01:38:35,906
beginning to control us. We must not let it. We must contain it. Um, I have copies

887
01:38:35,906 --> 01:38:42,454
of sample legislation, for opt-outs for you. And also copies of some bad legislation

888
01:38:42,454 --> 01:38:45,990
that's going around the country which I hope we don't see happen here. And I'd like to

889
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:54,533
give it to you after the meeting. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Campbell Next person to

890
01:38:54,533 --> 01:39:04,533
sign up is James Franchini. Subject is smart meters, is Mr. Franke here. Hello, my name is

891
01:39:09,815 --> 01:39:12,886
James Franchini, and my address is accurate as shown on your sheet, and I'm in Southeast

892
01:39:12,886 --> 01:39:18,891
Huntsville. I'm speaking on behalf of a group of concerned residents regarding the health

893
01:39:18,891 --> 01:39:23,762
and safety impacts of smart meters that are being installed as part of Huntsville Utility's

894
01:39:23,762 --> 01:39:28,500
advanced metering infrastructure program, also known as AMI This will be a

895
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:32,971
short status update on the progress being made in our collaboration with HU on

896
01:39:32,971 --> 01:39:38,176
developing a smart meter opt out policy for Huntsville residents. For those in the

897
01:39:38,176 --> 01:39:42,580
audience that may not be aware of this important topic, we originally approached this

898
01:39:42,580 --> 01:39:46,518
council because we were notified by HU that smart meters were going to be

899
01:39:46,518 --> 01:39:52,324
installed on our homes, even though we had previously opted out a few years earlier. More

900
01:39:52,324 --> 01:39:57,662
importantly, there was no provision allowing us to opt out again This was unacceptable

901
01:39:57,662 --> 01:40:03,735
for us because of the extensive research and studies that have been done revealing the serious

902
01:40:03,735 --> 01:40:09,141
health impacts that can arise from exposure to radiofrequency or radiation emitted by them.

903
01:40:09,141 --> 01:40:15,614
After presenting our concerns to this council back in July of this year. Mr. Meredith,

904
01:40:15,614 --> 01:40:21,820
proactively hosted a meeting between representatives of our small group and HU For that,

905
01:40:21,820 --> 01:40:24,757
Council President Meredith, we're deeply grateful. I know he's not here, but I share that

906
01:40:24,757 --> 01:40:29,695
with you. And we're grateful as well to the Huntsville Utility leadership for being open to

907
01:40:29,695 --> 01:40:35,567
work with us. Now for an update of our progress. We attended the August utility Board

908
01:40:35,567 --> 01:40:40,371
meetings this week with our primary purpose being to request that the boards

909
01:40:40,371 --> 01:40:44,710
postpone their vote upon the current draft opt-out policy and allow us to continue to

910
01:40:44,710 --> 01:40:51,500
work with HU in crafting a more complete and robust policy. The meetings were productive with

911
01:40:51,500 --> 01:40:56,322
many good questions being asked by the board members, followed by intelligent and thoughtful

912
01:40:56,322 --> 01:41:03,128
discussions between them and the HU team. which led to the vote being postponed. HU staff

913
01:41:03,128 --> 01:41:07,198
in our group will be meeting several times over the coming weeks to prepare the next

914
01:41:07,198 --> 01:41:12,405
version of the policy for the board's review. I intend to provide another update at the

915
01:41:12,405 --> 01:41:17,277
next city council meeting in 2 weeks. Thank you for your support and for your interest

916
01:41:17,277 --> 01:41:27,277
in this matter. Thank you, Mr. Franchini The next person to sign up is Ms. Francis Akridge,

917
01:41:28,220 --> 01:41:37,220
Subject is professional respect sacred. Thank you. I live in Huntsville and my address is

918
01:41:41,568 --> 01:41:50,176
correct on the sign sheet. and the topic is professional respect because I've been very

919
01:41:50,176 --> 01:41:56,981
busy traveling, yay, and learning about the world and art and food, and yet somebody

920
01:41:56,981 --> 01:42:03,722
called me recently and said, Did you see the epic? embarrassment of the last

921
01:42:03,722 --> 01:42:13,322
meeting. so I watched it It definitely could have been less contentious if number one the

922
01:42:15,667 --> 01:42:21,806
president or the second the whatever the titles that you have had called a point of

923
01:42:21,806 --> 01:42:28,481
order. A vote had already been made about Mr. Bowden, the item on the floor was about Ms.

924
01:42:28,481 --> 01:42:35,688
Caruso, and yet the conversation started back to Mr Bowden. parenthetically, I have

925
01:42:35,688 --> 01:42:42,561
no idea why someone would want that person on the, no, that we have to be very careful when we

926
01:42:42,561 --> 01:42:49,168
put people on the board because their need to, they need to add value. They don't, the

927
01:42:49,168 --> 01:42:54,906
clutching our pearls and saying they had been thrown out of here doesn't disqualify them.

928
01:42:54,906 --> 01:43:00,979
Please do not bring Facebook into your repertoire. If someone can get on their phone

929
01:43:00,979 --> 01:43:06,852
and go to Facebook for crying out loud, you can go to the Huntsville Media Center and

930
01:43:06,852 --> 01:43:11,856
watch these live and by the way you might learn something while you're there, like the phone

931
01:43:11,856 --> 01:43:17,620
numbers of the planning division and find out that it is not up to the government

932
01:43:17,620 --> 01:43:26,939
what a farmer wants to do with their land once it is annexed. Thank you. Thank you, Ms.

933
01:43:26,939 --> 01:43:36,820
Akridge. I have a gift for everybody. The next person to sign up is David Snyder.

934
01:43:36,820 --> 01:43:43,882
Subject is multiple Hello, my name is David Snyder. My information is written

935
01:43:52,300 --> 01:43:56,501
correctly on the sheet, and I live in Huntsville, Alabama. Um I'm going to run through a few

936
01:43:56,501 --> 01:44:01,441
items kind of quickly. One, I would like to talk about transparency in the jail. I

937
01:44:01,441 --> 01:44:05,777
understand it's the Madison County jail. It is not the Huntsville City jail. But I

938
01:44:05,777 --> 01:44:09,982
would like to know if Huntsville is making money off of ICE deportations. My

939
01:44:09,982 --> 01:44:14,652
understanding is every person that gets an ice hole that is in the Madison County jail

940
01:44:14,652 --> 01:44:18,123
right now is getting taken. That's what's happening. And I would like to know if our city

941
01:44:18,123 --> 01:44:23,262
is making money off of that, a horrendous thing is happening to our Hispanic community. and

942
01:44:23,262 --> 01:44:30,402
I expect that Huntsville should establish establish itself as a welcome welcoming city like

943
01:44:30,402 --> 01:44:37,800
Birmingham did. uh previously. There have also been multiple deaths in the jail that we need

944
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,346
transparency around. There are going to be FOIA requests made. I, uh, hope to have the city of

945
01:44:41,346 --> 01:44:46,685
Huntsville's, uh, support when those FOIA requests are submitted and any dealings that

946
01:44:46,685 --> 01:44:52,502
we have with the MCSO. Um, I'd like to talk about Derick Street a little bit. I am going

947
01:44:52,502 --> 01:44:59,575
to be meeting with Scott tomorrow, actually, um, about that um, there needs to be

948
01:44:59,575 --> 01:45:03,579
greater access to the hose that is a water outlet for people to be able to get water from. It's

949
01:45:03,579 --> 01:45:08,718
not a great setup to drink uh from, but it is water, so, you know, that's great. Um, but it

950
01:45:08,718 --> 01:45:12,856
could be, it needs to be moved over a little bit or have an access away from the camp so

951
01:45:12,856 --> 01:45:17,193
people with mobility AIDS can actually get to it and it's suitable to drink out of. Um,

952
01:45:17,193 --> 01:45:21,931
there also needs to be an EMA special response. Imagine being in a tent, uh, when a storm

953
01:45:21,931 --> 01:45:26,736
like we saw with Monteceno. Imagine being in a tent when that happens. We need to have a

954
01:45:26,736 --> 01:45:31,206
special van come out and be willing to take people to safety ahead of a storm like

955
01:45:31,206 --> 01:45:39,415
that. Um, we also need to have the resolution for a ceasefire in Gaza signed. I emailed Bill

956
01:45:39,415 --> 01:45:44,554
Kling actually at our last district. uh meeting a petition that has gone around. I'm going

957
01:45:44,554 --> 01:45:49,625
to email that to all of City council and to Mayor Tommy Battle. It will be a stain on

958
01:45:49,625 --> 01:45:54,163
the city of Huntsville if we don't at the very least, it is the bare minimum thing that we

959
01:45:54,163 --> 01:46:00,303
can do to sign for a ceasefire resolution and for humanitarian aid to be supplied to the area

960
01:46:00,303 --> 01:46:07,176
that is the bare minimum. Um, regarding city detect, I am going to say again that these

961
01:46:07,176 --> 01:46:11,114
uh people of Huntsville, uh, like you've seen with the concern with Skyfire. We don't

962
01:46:11,114 --> 01:46:16,786
want to be surveilled. We don't want money to be put into surveillance. Um, we would uh

963
01:46:16,786 --> 01:46:21,123
like to have a Black History Museum installed in the city. We do not want to be surveilled

964
01:46:21,123 --> 01:46:26,530
Um, I understand that with Skyfire, the idea is that it is for emergency response, and

965
01:46:26,530 --> 01:46:31,801
that is a good thing, right? Um again, one of the things with uh City detect is about what it

966
01:46:31,801 --> 01:46:38,140
can be used for or what that data can be used for, right? So where are we getting assurances

967
01:46:38,140 --> 01:46:42,945
and transparency that they're not going to use those drones for any other purpose other

968
01:46:42,945 --> 01:46:48,951
than emergency uh you know, response and um like with City detect, what assurances do we

969
01:46:48,951 --> 01:46:54,957
have that if a larger federal body demands that, you know, data that that's not gonna just

970
01:46:54,957 --> 01:47:01,364
be handed over to other parties right? The best way to not do it is to not have it. We

971
01:47:01,364 --> 01:47:07,569
appreciate your attendance tonight. The next person to sign up is David W. Address is

972
01:47:07,569 --> 01:47:16,513
AAMU. There's no subject. Is Mr David W here? Apparently not. Uh, then we will move on to uh

973
01:47:16,513 --> 01:47:26,113
Taris Smith. Mr. Smith Mr. Smith is not here. Moses Eben Mr. Eben Yolanda Caudle Is

974
01:47:28,525 --> 01:47:36,399
Caudle here Lynn Holmes I'm beginning to suspect that these were folks who were here and

975
01:47:36,399 --> 01:47:43,672
thought they had to sign in. Tony Gaskin, subject is AI cameras, AI police, drone

976
01:47:43,672 --> 01:47:52,215
budget increase. Hello, um, my name's Tyranny Gaskin. Uh, I live in the city of Huntsville.

977
01:47:52,215 --> 01:47:57,553
Thank you, um. real quick, I would just like to talk about the city to tech program, so

978
01:47:57,553 --> 01:48:01,958
local citizens, I have a copy of everything I'm about to say. I'm about to talk very fast. So

979
01:48:01,958 --> 01:48:06,280
a local citizen's concern on the city detect program possibly coming to Huntsville,

980
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,831
Automated surveillance undermined trust and cooperation between citizens

981
01:48:08,831 --> 01:48:14,503
and their government. If the AI tool is used, is doing the work of spotting violations on the

982
01:48:14,503 --> 01:48:19,641
street than our officials will lose contact with the community and the human element is lost.

983
01:48:19,641 --> 01:48:23,645
Without community and civic empathy, government officials will become disconnected from

984
01:48:23,645 --> 01:48:27,583
citizens. for privacy concerns, the CEO of City Detech claims that the data collected will

985
01:48:27,583 --> 01:48:32,789
not be sold to anyone, but how can we be certain that our data won't be sold ever. Legally, is

986
01:48:32,789 --> 01:48:36,859
it in the contract that our data is not for sale under any circumstances or after a

987
01:48:36,859 --> 01:48:41,263
certain period of time, how does City detech make money for its investors if they do not

988
01:48:41,263 --> 01:48:49,339
sell our data. Customer data in the contract that you guys have um under that. uh proposal, uh,

989
01:48:49,339 --> 01:48:54,143
customer data is defined as any information or other data of any type provided by the

990
01:48:54,143 --> 01:48:58,614
customer or its end users to City detect in connection with the product, including

991
01:48:58,614 --> 01:49:04,887
preferences, case status, notes and summaries, however, customer data does not include

992
01:49:04,887 --> 01:49:09,492
analytical data or raw data or any other information reflecting the access of or use

993
01:49:09,492 --> 01:49:18,330
of the products per section 3.2 of the terms of use. Raw data is defined as quote, all audio

994
01:49:18,330 --> 01:49:23,380
visual images, text global positioning system, and other geospatial and environmental

995
01:49:23,380 --> 01:49:27,376
data and other types of content captured by devices or otherwise provided by City

996
01:49:27,376 --> 01:49:34,383
detect in connection to the product. End quote. Also as per section of 3.2 terms of use.

997
01:49:34,383 --> 01:49:40,456
Analytical data is defined as the output that is generated through the gene that is.

998
01:49:40,456 --> 01:49:45,661
output that is generated through the product using artificial and intelligence AI

999
01:49:45,661 --> 01:49:49,999
output, and the data and information submitted or produced by the customer or its

1000
01:49:49,999 --> 01:49:54,737
end users related to the interpretation, understanding and refinement of raw data and

1001
01:49:54,737 --> 01:50:00,809
AI output per section 3.2 of the terms of use, as of section 11.1 of the terms of use states

1002
01:50:00,809 --> 01:50:05,480
that all customer data, the product and analytical data, raw data and AI output are

1003
01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:10,152
deemed to be confidential information of City detect, which implies that if we are

1004
01:50:10,152 --> 01:50:14,956
not in a contract with City detect that we cannot access our own data. All of the

1005
01:50:14,956 --> 01:50:19,428
cameras that are used in the City detect program are leased to us by the company, we will

1006
01:50:19,428 --> 01:50:25,768
never acquire ownership of the data and the collection devices um. well which implies that the

1007
01:50:25,768 --> 01:50:30,706
photos, videos, and audios that is collected is not legally ours. First section 1.10 of

1008
01:50:30,706 --> 01:50:36,978
terms of use. In the agreement, it is said that City Detect has the right to use analytical rot

1009
01:50:36,978 --> 01:50:41,852
and raw data in a way that implies that it could be sold or used for data mining, quote,

1010
01:50:41,852 --> 01:50:46,722
City detect shall not use customer data for any purpose outside of the scope of the

1011
01:50:46,722 --> 01:50:52,861
agreement or otherwise permitted by the privacy policy the foregoing does not restrict

1012
01:50:52,861 --> 01:50:57,933
the city detects right and and abuse. Gaskin. Your time is up. I'm glad you're going to

1013
01:50:57,933 --> 01:51:02,217
provide us printed copies of that, you said? Yes, I do have printed copies. Good. That's a

1014
01:51:02,217 --> 01:51:06,155
lot of information. We appreciate you preparing that for us. Uh, the next person to

1015
01:51:06,155 --> 01:51:15,755
speak is Sabrina. Craxi Our subject is AI cameras City detect. Hey guys, I am Spring

1016
01:51:17,699 --> 01:51:24,908
Clary. Um, I wanted to talk about residence, please. Oh, Madison, thank you. Sorry. Um,

1017
01:51:24,908 --> 01:51:30,113
I wanted to also talk about City detect with the Environmental concerns or the

1018
01:51:30,113 --> 01:51:36,720
aspect. Um concerning AI. AI has a substantial power draw requirement, which some

1019
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,458
estimates suggesting that data centers supporting AI could require up to 3 times the power

1020
01:51:41,458 --> 01:51:47,197
of traditional facilities of the same size. That power disparity will continue to grow

1021
01:51:47,197 --> 01:51:51,801
as these egg chips grow more and more powerful and therefore more power hungry, a

1022
01:51:51,801 --> 01:51:56,740
considerable portion of the power cost is due to cooling requirements. Given that

1023
01:51:56,740 --> 01:52:01,770
Alabama has a rather warm climate, it stands to reason that its cooling costs will be

1024
01:52:01,770 --> 01:52:05,482
greater than the average of other area s With climate change mounting in an ever

1025
01:52:05,482 --> 01:52:11,888
greater as ever greater threat, it would be more prudent to invest the money into renewable

1026
01:52:11,888 --> 01:52:16,358
energy solutions instead of dumping it into a surveillance mechanisms that that would, as

1027
01:52:16,358 --> 01:52:20,562
things stand now, only accelerate the rate of greenhouse gas emissions to

1028
01:52:20,562 --> 01:52:25,101
keep up with their inefficient power requirements. Buying solar panels and incorporating

1029
01:52:25,101 --> 01:52:32,508
them into the city's power grid would pay for themselves over a 5 to 15 year time frame. And as

1030
01:52:32,508 --> 01:52:37,379
they can last up to 35 years, they'll provide savings for the city well after that.

1031
01:52:37,379 --> 01:52:43,253
Bolstering the power grid could also help incentivize incentivize future AI

1032
01:52:43,253 --> 01:52:48,457
investments that don't involve invasive hammer fleet since cities with robust power grids

1033
01:52:48,457 --> 01:52:55,264
would be ideal sites for development in the long run. So that's AI in general, but I

1034
01:52:55,264 --> 01:53:02,710
also wanted to mention that for citizens here in Alabama who have native plantings The

1035
01:53:02,710 --> 01:53:06,900
native plantings will not be recognized by these cameras leading to citations. The

1036
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:11,213
movement to create yards and grounds that use native plants to create habitats for Alabama

1037
01:53:11,213 --> 01:53:16,152
pollinators and reduce water usage means that we can have more native lawns in our

1038
01:53:16,152 --> 01:53:21,690
communities. These would benefit everyone and there is concern that the AI cameras

1039
01:53:21,690 --> 01:53:26,762
will not be able to discern a patch of native vegetation from weeds. And therefore

1040
01:53:26,762 --> 01:53:33,103
insinuating citations unneeded. Thank you. Thank you The next person to sign up is Jeffrey

1041
01:53:33,103 --> 01:53:41,503
Engle, Mr. Angle. Hello, uh, Jeffrey Ingle, uh, City of Huntsville, live in Sherwood

1042
01:53:44,314 --> 01:53:50,386
Park. I'm with the Democratic Socialists of North Alabama. Um so we're going to talk about AI

1043
01:53:50,386 --> 01:53:57,326
again. Um, so I want to express my uh complete disappointment with the board uh for extending

1044
01:53:57,326 --> 01:54:05,000
the contract uh to allow drones to surveil our communities on weekends and uh for that to be

1045
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:13,209
uh shuffled through uh through an AI company. Uh, I am a very active in uh the uh movement

1046
01:54:13,209 --> 01:54:18,947
here uh in Huntsville, and I know that those drones are used to watch us. Uh, Eleanor, First

1047
01:54:18,947 --> 01:54:24,286
Amendment rights, uh, gatherings. Those drones are above us and those that all of

1048
01:54:24,286 --> 01:54:32,361
that data is being fed into this AI uh system. Uh, so it is being used for more than just

1049
01:54:32,361 --> 01:54:40,436
first responders. Um, onto City Detect, uh, that again on data. um your, their contract says

1050
01:54:40,436 --> 01:54:45,975
that all data is stored in third parties facilities, uh, and uh we do not know where

1051
01:54:45,975 --> 01:54:50,646
those facilities are. Uh, the contract also says the city detect can store that data

1052
01:54:50,646 --> 01:54:54,851
indefinitely. Now, why are they able to store that indefinitely ? Why would they not be able to

1053
01:54:54,851 --> 01:54:59,921
delete it after a certain amount of time, quote, images stored in deep storage for 12

1054
01:54:59,921 --> 01:55:04,661
months and then moved into deeper storage indefinitely, retrieval retrievable upon

1055
01:55:04,661 --> 01:55:09,932
request. Who would be requesting that data of all of our streets who would need all

1056
01:55:09,932 --> 01:55:16,672
of that data of every street for uh for years and years, um except for to use it, uh, for

1057
01:55:16,672 --> 01:55:24,800
some type of surveillance. All right? The uh gone to cost, so this will be over $300,000 per

1058
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:30,686
year uh for three years, uh, equating to almost a million dollars. Uh, that money can be

1059
01:55:30,686 --> 01:55:37,159
used for solar panels. That money can be used instead to uh feed schoolchildren. Uh, one of

1060
01:55:37,159 --> 01:55:45,501
the biggest, uh, indicators of econ economic opportunity is hunger. Uh, one of, uh, the

1061
01:55:45,501 --> 01:55:53,242
greatest things that our city can do is provide for its children and then provide uh

1062
01:55:53,242 --> 01:56:01,584
impoverished communities, uh, with free meals. Uh, where did it go All right, uh, so again,

1063
01:56:01,584 --> 01:56:06,655
to the crowd, uh, you live in a surveillance state, uh, just because there are AI cameras

1064
01:56:06,655 --> 01:56:13,328
all over the roads, uh, like Google, Amazon, that does not mean that we need to have more

1065
01:56:13,328 --> 01:56:19,469
of them. Uh, I've been heard that as an excuse from a uh city official that, hey, this

1066
01:56:19,469 --> 01:56:23,939
technology is already out there why not use it? We don't want it. We don't want to be

1067
01:56:23,939 --> 01:56:29,545
surveilled more. We don't want our tax dollars used to surveil us. Um, 1984 was not meant to

1068
01:56:29,545 --> 01:56:37,620
be an instruction manual. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Engle, and please to the, just for

1069
01:56:37,620 --> 01:56:41,757
everybody's information, comments should be addressed to the council, not to. everybody

1070
01:56:41,757 --> 01:56:46,763
else. Amanda Puchek. Is Miss Pushek here? That was fantastic I don't know if I've ever had

1071
01:56:46,763 --> 01:56:56,763
someone say my last name so well. My mother was Czech, so Again, thank you for the

1072
01:57:07,184 --> 01:57:12,400
pronunciation. I'm very impressed. Uh, Amanda Pushek. I live in Huntsville. Thank you.

1073
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:21,213
Welcome. Hi. Uh, I want to talk a little bit about City detect AI as well. um here's the thing

1074
01:57:21,213 --> 01:57:30,689
I check my mail in my robe. and there's lots of people in our neighborhood who have kids,

1075
01:57:30,689 --> 01:57:34,893
walk around, their kids in their bathing suits in the summer, splash pad out in the

1076
01:57:34,893 --> 01:57:41,566
yard, all of that sort of thing and the way that City detect is currently being proposed. All

1077
01:57:41,566 --> 01:57:47,907
of that data, all of that information, all of that photographic evidence would be

1078
01:57:47,907 --> 01:57:51,977
stored indefinitely. So while we may live in a time right now where that may not be so much

1079
01:57:51,977 --> 01:57:58,117
of an issue. I've also had my data leaked before. I've had it leaked, I've had it sold when

1080
01:57:58,117 --> 01:58:03,989
companies close down, and now I get 8000 spam calls a day. Not to mention the amount of times

1081
01:58:03,989 --> 01:58:10,529
that I've had my credit damaged because of it, or I've had my father's personal home

1082
01:58:10,529 --> 01:58:15,600
information leak because of it. My biggest concern is because of the indefinite manner in

1083
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:22,740
which that this data is stored. Historically speaking, when these sort of companies do

1084
01:58:22,740 --> 01:58:28,147
close because typically companies close. That's just how it exists. Because that

1085
01:58:28,147 --> 01:58:33,218
information is stored forever. One of the first mechanisms of action that they do to try to

1086
01:58:33,218 --> 01:58:40,560
liquidate their assets is by selling the data. Another thing that they'll do is also just

1087
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,497
leak the information, whether intentionally by a company workers or an outside source,

1088
01:58:44,497 --> 01:58:50,302
it doesn't matter because once it's out, it's out. We all know that it's very difficult to put

1089
01:58:50,302 --> 01:58:56,909
that information back into the bottle. Now there's services out there that will hopefully

1090
01:58:56,909 --> 01:59:02,115
pull that information back down off of the internet for us, but I feel like the people of

1091
01:59:02,115 --> 01:59:07,119
Huntsville shouldn't have to pay for that to happen. If we get ahead of problems, it's

1092
01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:13,993
much easier than fixing them later. And I would just say with a word of caution that

1093
01:59:13,993 --> 01:59:20,666
when we think of things indefinitely. time is a construct, and then we tend to

1094
01:59:20,666 --> 01:59:26,538
experience it very differently as individuals. When we look at broader periods of time, it can

1095
01:59:26,538 --> 01:59:33,879
be very difficult for our brains to wrap around that indefinite concept. What we do

1096
01:59:33,879 --> 01:59:38,685
with that information cannot only affect us today, but 20 years from now, when those same

1097
01:59:38,685 --> 01:59:43,555
kids are adults applying for jobs. and now they have their pictures of them in swimsuits

1098
01:59:43,555 --> 01:59:49,428
as kids on the internet. I know that that seems very silly, but that's what we're talking about

1099
01:59:49,428 --> 01:59:54,300
here. And that's the real life consequences. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Ms.

1100
01:59:54,300 --> 02:00:02,700
Kuscha Next we have Julie Calderwood. Julie. I'm Julie Calderwood. I live in South

1101
02:00:16,855 --> 02:00:23,461
Huntsville, um after one of my, our meetings about the smart meters, uh, one of the comments

1102
02:00:23,461 --> 02:00:28,468
from the city council was, but you've been here before talking about smart meters and we've

1103
02:00:28,468 --> 02:00:36,475
referred you to that, so, um, uh, utilities kind of questioned why, why we're

1104
02:00:36,475 --> 02:00:41,747
coming back and, and I, and I thought to myself, um, it's because you don't understand,

1105
02:00:41,747 --> 02:00:48,487
um, this is not just about smart meters. Um we have man-made two-way microwave

1106
02:00:48,487 --> 02:00:53,240
radiation that sends and receives data in all sorts of things, the smart meters, the

1107
02:00:53,240 --> 02:01:00,980
cell towers, Bluetooth laptops, iPads, WiFi routers, classroom access points, you name it, all

1108
02:01:00,980 --> 02:01:06,772
those wires or stuff, hearing aids, vehicles, gaming systems. So there has never been a safe

1109
02:01:06,772 --> 02:01:12,978
level of microwave radiation determined in scientific literature. Many of the health

1110
02:01:12,978 --> 02:01:17,515
issues associated with wireless technologies can also occur with electrical system s and

1111
02:01:17,515 --> 02:01:23,521
devices that operate in low, extremely low frequency range. Um, when I started researching,

1112
02:01:23,521 --> 02:01:30,262
because I was feeling, getting sick, what was going on with me ? I finally bought a an acousta

1113
02:01:30,262 --> 02:01:35,533
meter and started measuring around different places and different things, and that's

1114
02:01:35,533 --> 02:01:45,533
what got my attention. Um. I have done so much research, but well I realized that um we

1115
02:01:46,745 --> 02:01:50,749
adopted wireless technology without taking into consideration its potential

1116
02:01:50,749 --> 02:01:58,890
impact on health. The FCC guidelines in place today were developed in 1996 and they do

1117
02:01:58,890 --> 02:02:04,629
not address the much lower nonthermal impacts that come with use of today's devices.

1118
02:02:04,629 --> 02:02:09,768
The science has proven there are many harmful nonthermal effects, and the FCC standards

1119
02:02:09,768 --> 02:02:14,440
also don't address the impact on children and fetuses who absorb a lot of this radiation

1120
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:22,915
more than we as adults do. and impact our bodies in such in so many ways. um, the FCC, um, an

1121
02:02:22,915 --> 02:02:29,855
agency reported by the Harvard is captured industry, and they have thousands of pages of

1122
02:02:29,855 --> 02:02:35,590
scientific evidence that has been entered into the public record. Thousands of studies

1123
02:02:35,590 --> 02:02:38,865
have been done and many countries have banned and restricted the use of Wi Fi and

1124
02:02:38,865 --> 02:02:46,500
cell phones for children and protect women who are pregnant. Um, from the health impacts of

1125
02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:52,211
this this technology is causing and 2015 Harvard University published a captured agency

1126
02:02:52,211 --> 02:02:59,217
report detailing how the FCC is run by the industry. It presumably regulates. The US

1127
02:02:59,217 --> 02:03:03,822
government has known that there are biological effects for from electromagnetic radiation for

1128
02:03:03,822 --> 02:03:09,360
decades in the US and elsewhere evidence of harm was suppressed and non-protective standards

1129
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,964
were set, falling back on the excuse that more research needs to be done before those

1130
02:03:12,964 --> 02:03:20,105
standards will be updated and NASA back had a report in 1981, the Army intelligence document

1131
02:03:20,105 --> 02:03:26,665
from 1998 identifies I have other things, but we would like to send you some information

1132
02:03:26,665 --> 02:03:31,403
and that would be great you thank you always appreciate that. Thank you. Um, next, Dr.

1133
02:03:31,403 --> 02:03:38,300
David Calderwood. David Calderwood, Southeast Huntsville. I too would like to

1134
02:03:50,822 --> 02:03:57,762
um express our gratitude as a member of the Smart meter opt group of this of the Huntsville

1135
02:03:57,762 --> 02:04:02,166
utilities being willing to work th us to try to come up with a good plan, and we hope that

1136
02:04:02,166 --> 02:04:09,174
the, this will be successful. Um, I come tonight, uh to extend an invitation, um, to

1137
02:04:09,174 --> 02:04:15,780
the members of this council as well as everyone else present. I think that there are members

1138
02:04:15,780 --> 02:04:22,588
of our city government who would like the city of Huntsville to be a smart city.

1139
02:04:22,588 --> 02:04:30,728
Um, and, uh, my invitation is for all of us to become educated on electromagnetic

1140
02:04:30,728 --> 02:04:37,670
radiation so that we will all realize that a smart city is neither intelligent or healthy.

1141
02:04:37,670 --> 02:04:45,410
Um, I am going to send links to members of the council. and if I can to, uh, Mayor Battle as

1142
02:04:45,410 --> 02:04:53,210
well to a wonderful website, Massachusetts for Safe Technology.com. It is probably

1143
02:04:53,884 --> 02:04:58,956
one of the most extensive collection of information on electromagnetic radiation. It

1144
02:04:58,956 --> 02:05:07,498
has a section on the science on cancer infertility, impact on children, WiFi in schools,

1145
02:05:07,498 --> 02:05:12,370
including the effect on the health of children and how it interferes with their learning.

1146
02:05:12,370 --> 02:05:18,370
Um, electromagnetic hypersensitivity. You utility company smart meters, a large

1147
02:05:18,575 --> 02:05:27,510
section on that and the effects of those cell towers, 5G, planetary impact, including the

1148
02:05:27,510 --> 02:05:34,125
impact on um uh wildlife, on plant growth and insects, including bees, if the

1149
02:05:34,125 --> 02:05:40,640
radiation level gets high enough, beaming down from satellites as it is, and in all

1150
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:46,203
of our areas, we could kill off all the bees, and that would end life for humans on this

1151
02:05:46,203 --> 02:05:53,478
planet. Um, also, there's legal issues section bills from Massachusetts and other states.

1152
02:05:53,478 --> 02:05:58,820
Um, also a section on industrial whistleblowers, exposing what's going on behind

1153
02:05:58,820 --> 02:06:03,688
the scenes and the cover-ups and so forth. and world response in which you learn

1154
02:06:03,688 --> 02:06:11,950
that the United States, Japan, and Canada have the highest levels allowed, which are 100

1155
02:06:11,950 --> 02:06:17,568
times higher than smarter countries who are allowing a much less than those include

1156
02:06:17,568 --> 02:06:24,374
Switzerland, Austria, and Russia, among others. Um, there's also a section sections

1157
02:06:24,374 --> 02:06:29,470
on solutions for schools and families, for workplaces, for healthcare providers, for

1158
02:06:29,470 --> 02:06:35,520
engineers and physicists for municipal leaders like yourselves. for legislators and

1159
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:42,460
for lawyers. I therefore would like to extend an invitation that we learned about this, so

1160
02:06:42,460 --> 02:06:49,670
that Huntsville can be an intelligent and healthy city. Thank you. Thank you, Dave,

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Doctor Calderwood. And now Mariah Hammond, isn't Miss Hammond here? I suspect these

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areMU people who were here earlier. Mariah Hamad and Kenya England. They're not here and

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that concludes our um citizen comments. We welcome all of you back at our next council

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meeting, which will be, yes, uh Rhonda Lynn No is that you I skipped right over you Thank

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you for calling that to our attention. You will be our concluding speaker. Please give

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your, is your time to sign on the list and I would love to speak also. we we have to have

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you sign that our procedure is to have you sign on the list. We'll look forward to hearing

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from you at the next meeting. Miss Lynn, good evening. I'm, I I read this statement from,

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name and address. I'm Rhonda Lynn. I'm reading this statement for Huntsville. Thank

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you. Uh, Alicia Booth Hegmaker also from Huntsville, um, and this is her statement uh, who

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she wishes to raise an issue that ties directly into Huntsville's future stability.

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We all know Huntsville is being branded as a tech hub, but there's a dark side to that

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trend across the country corporate giants like BlackRock and Blackstone are buying up

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utility companies, tying them directly to the growth of AI data centers. These data

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centers don't just use electricity, they drain community water supplies and

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spike local power costs. Communities in Texas, New Mexico, and Minnesota are

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already in legal battles because private equity firms are driving rates up while

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residents are left footing the bill. Here in Huntsville, we've already seen the proposed

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rollout of AI-powered surveillance cameras. Pair that with the growing demand for

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server farms, and you have a picture that should concern all of us. Our resources, power,

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water, even our privacy are being turned into commodities for outside corporations. She

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wants to be clear She uses AI. I believe it can be tool, but using it irresponsible at the

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expense of residents' bills, health, and freedom puts entire communities at risk. selling

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out to corporate interests that view Huntsville as just another market is a dangerous path.

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Huntsville is unique. We are a city with deep military, scientific, and family roots.

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We cannot afford to let Wall Street interests dictate our utility policies, drain our

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resources, and then leave us with the damage. So I'm asking this council before Huntsville

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follows the same path as other cities, commit to transparency, commit to protecting residents

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first, not outside investors, because if we don't, we may wake up to find out that the

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city we love is being run by algorithms and corporate balance sheets, not by the

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people who live here. Thank you Thank you very much I believe that concludes our meeting.

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Move to adjourn Uh, we are adjourned until September 11. We welcome you back then. Thank