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>>Mayor, you have a quorum.

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>>Thank you, Mr. Grin and

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Diet. Okay, folks,

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let's do the Pledge of

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Allegiance all together. I

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pledge allegiance

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to the flag.>> And to the

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Republic

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for which it stands.

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>>Under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>>Thank you. Can I get a motion

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to approve the agenda,please?

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>>Second.

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>>It's been moved and seconded.

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All in favor?

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The ayes have it. Okay, public

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>>We'll go to the attendees.

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please use the raised hand

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feature now. You will have two

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your name and the ward you live

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in right now. First, we'll go

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to Michael Borman. Michael, you

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>>Good evening. My name is

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Michael Gorman. I live in Ward

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by saying a thank you to the

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mayor and the council and the

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city staff. These are,

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of crazy times. And I'm happy

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to give a shout out

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for government service. Now,

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what I'd like

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to say today is pretty simple.

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Please, please, let's run a

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balanced budget going forward.

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by dipping into the city

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savings accounts. I realize

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that's not the proper

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accounting terminology. The

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general fund or all those

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accounts that we set aside

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to have money just in case

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something terrible goes on.

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by running a balanced budget.

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by raising taxes. We're already

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paying a lot of taxes. I don't

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to raise taxes. Now, I do

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realize that a lot of planned

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expenditures can't be backed

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down from now, and that that

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of the things we'd really like

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planned expenditures will have

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to run a proper balanced budget

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going forward. And I. Yeah. So

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thanks again to all of you

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for all you do.

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>>Awesome. Good evening,

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mayor and council members. My

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with all the changes

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federal government and then all

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the budget shortfalls we have

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it might be trickier this year

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of budgeting. But

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to passing a budget for FY26

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that doesn't draw so heavily,

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heavily on the carryover money

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from the general fund as we

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have in the previous years.

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to just commit to having those

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to about whether we need the

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things that are in this budget

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and future budgets, like,

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does it really meet our needs

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to have a huge upgrade

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or might it just be better

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to do some small,

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meaningful improvements

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to maximizing transparency,

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our budget as we possibly can

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so we know exactly where our

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even be innovative by releasing

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some raw budget data, like a

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spreadsheet or a CSV file or

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something like that. So if we

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we can do our own analyses

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of this data instead of having

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to look for a budget book. And

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the data is, like,

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unselectable. And if you look

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Bowie, they seem

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of things that we've seen

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to be struggling with. And I

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don't think there's any reason

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we can't do what they do

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at least as well as they do,

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if not better. So thank you

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mayor and council and staff.

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for being here. Really

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appreciate you 100%. Echo the

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about fiscal realism. We can't

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on HCC244,241 and 247. Those

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none of these have any fiscal

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on the transfer of 208 and

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on the landing property. We

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have an analysis done. They

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identified potential

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improvements to 208. They

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with a consultant to to cost

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there's no reason there can't

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be a cost there. They've

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identified some pilot AI tools.

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think you as a council really

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to have a financial estimate,

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especially when you're being

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on the AI HCC 244. I'm glad

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to see that the city is looking

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at developing guidelines

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for AI. It's super important.

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they're proposing to pilot

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before they actually develop

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the guidelines. And our cities

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aren't even using AI. Hello,

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Lamppost is AI. Stop sign

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cameras by Avio are using AI.

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committee called an AI

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committee and not just an it.

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Luca Campelia. You should be

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much, Mr. Mayor and Council

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members. I wanted just to give

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regarding my zoning variance

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request, which is

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for today's meeting. This is

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just a small project that me,

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as a resident of Ward Number

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2, together

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with my wife put forth

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to develop the third floor

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of our house,

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which is an old property on

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at the corner between Hamilton

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street and 4131st Avenue I

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understand that as part

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of the consent agenda,

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there is no discussion

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for this project. But

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in case I wanted

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>>Hammond, is also available

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during this meeting. Again,

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thank you very much for the

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consideration and I look

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Thanks. Next we'll go to

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Daniel Lang. Daniel, you should

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be able to unmute yourself.

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Good evening and thank you

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mayor,

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council and city employees

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for your dedicated commitment

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to our community. My comments

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presentation that is today I

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excited that Hyattville is

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taking steps towards AI. Just

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have a few points of emphasis

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and questions or items that I

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wish are considered

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during the presentation

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in the future adoption events.

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it still included the phrase

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dei. That's a plus. But then

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those tools, we're working with

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a tool that not only performs

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mechanical processes

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but cognitive ones as well.

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It's fundamentally different

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than other technological

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technological advances. And I

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see that there's a guardrail

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to prohibit use of PII in this.

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>>But I do think it needs to.

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>>Be even much stronger than

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that. Ensuring that the data is

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entered is properly stored and

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controlled on servers that the

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city controls, which may have a

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substantial impact to the

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budget and a substantial cost

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associated with it. And I do

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see that there are elements

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of self correcting mechanisms,

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but we also need to ensure

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of regulation

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of destructive capabilities

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of the tools to make sure that

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it is still ethical and fair.

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There was a mention

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of only using biased data sets,

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although I do think it is

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rather difficult slash

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impossible to come up with a

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data set that isn't biased. So

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curious what measures will be

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put in place to establish

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equitable and just decisions.

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Myself and another volunteer

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at the Hyattsville Library,

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Yumiko Joins, are hosting a

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computer skills program in

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March at the Hyattsville

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Library. One

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of the sessions we do plan.

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To host is around Responsible

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Uses of Generative AI. For

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anyone who might be interested

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in that. Thank you.

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>>Next we'll go to Daniel

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Broder. Daniel, you should be

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able to unmute yourself.

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You'll hear me. Yes, we do.

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Cool.

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>>Good evening, Hyatt's Phil.

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Dan Broder, Ward 2 I want

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to make a comment about the AI

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presentation and I am making

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this comment both as a resident

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of Hyattsville and as somebody

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who works professionally with

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AI and is getting his doctorate

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in AI. This may do not spend

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money on this. This is the

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wrong approach to adopting AI

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for the municipal government.

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There are no guardrails

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in place prior

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to the procurement of AI. It is

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running concurrent

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to the procurement. This is the

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wrong approach. People's safety

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when it comes to their privacy

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for particularly data that

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might be handled

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by the police department needs

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to be protected

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before any sort

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of pilot is put into place.

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This does not require spending

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money on this project.

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Furthermore, if the City of

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Hyattsville would need

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to stand up equipment to

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isolate data storage or

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processing that would run

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completely contrary to the

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city's environmental goals,

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data centers are projected

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to absorb 9% of total US power

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in 2030. Do not do this this

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way. If you need

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to automate a city service,

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there are plenty of free open

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source quote unquote AI ways

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to do so,

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but wide scale adoption of a

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buzzword towards privacy

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problems that may not need

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solving, particularly in an

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environment where the city is

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losing lots of money,

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is a really bad idea.

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Finally, just want to shout

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out all the Hyattsville

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residents who made it out

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to the President's Day protest

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yesterday and expand Ranked

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choice voting in Hyattsville,

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please. Thank you.

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>>Next we'll go to Cheryl

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Aguiar. She'll be able to

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unmute yourself.

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>>Thank you. Good evening

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Council members and Mayor

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Crossling.Thank you

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for the opportunity

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to speak today. I'm Cheryl

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Aguilar and I'm here as the

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founding director of the Hope

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center. For Wellness, a mental

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health agency focused on

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holistic healing and as a

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community partner in the City

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of Hyatt Mental Health Program

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which was spearheaded here

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in these meetings and led by

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Councilwoman Schrub and

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supported

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by the entire council and the

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Mayor, so thank you so much.

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Now we have In Wellness with

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Thrive a program that is really

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thriving as a pilot program

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in our community.

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In recent months, In Wellness

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with Thrive has conducted

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countless intake sessions

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with children,

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youth and parents and I get to

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hear firsthand the many

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stressors affecting their

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mental health see. Seeing their

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immediate relief upon accessing

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free. Bilingual services both

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in person and virtually

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after weeks months

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of searching

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for support is a testament

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of the program's impact. This

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initiative not only provides

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critical mental Health services

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to the city's most vulnerable

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residents who are facing

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trauma, anxiety and depression,

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but it also offers hope,

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healing and a profound sense

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of being heard,

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seen and understood. In our

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Art space programs, young

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people have explored and

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processed critical issues of

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adolescent development such as

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identity and self esteem, and

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our sessions have supported a

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sense

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of connection and belonging.

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And in our individual therapy

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sessions,

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our therapists provide vital

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one on one and family support

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to community members navigating

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gun violence, family conflict

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and the isolation of feeling

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different challenges that have

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identified in in today's

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political climate access

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to mental care is urgent, that

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demand is growing and the need

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is undeniable. You have already

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led the way in this arena,

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so thank you for championing

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mental health already for the

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City of Hyattsville. As the

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devastating impact

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of federal cuts to Lifeline

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programs unfold, your continued

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support ensures that children

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and families in highest of

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income ensure our immigration

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status, retirement receive the

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care they need and deserve.

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Thank you for continuing to

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Support this initiative.

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>>Next, we have Bradley

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Phelps. Bradley, you should be

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able

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to unmute yourself.

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>>Hello, I'm Bradley Phelps

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from Ward 2. Thank you, Mayor

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and council members

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for your time

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in public service. My public

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comment is

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to reiterate concerns raised

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by previous public comments

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about artificial intelligence

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that is not outlined

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in the presentation

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to be given later tonight. As

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the presentation slides point

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out, there are risks

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to using AI. We also know and

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must consider carefully the

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known costs of AI. It requires

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a large amount of computational

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power and therefore a large

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amount

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of energy and electricity,

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often at data centers. Some

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estimates claim that ChatGPT

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may use one to two orders of

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magnitude more electricity than

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a conventional Google search.

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Additionally, these data

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centers frequently consume

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large.

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>>Amounts of water to cool

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their computers.

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>>As AI and applications

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for AI

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for local governments improve,

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they will hopefully become more

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efficient and tailored,

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demanding only what is required

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in terms of computational power

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and energy for a given task.

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But due to its recency

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on the public stage and lack

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of transparency

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within the field,

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the city should move forward

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under the assumption that AI

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uses a lot of power and a lot

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of water. In a state where we

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1. Import nearly 20%

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of our electricity. 2. Are

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trying to build

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out more renewable energy. 3.

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Are trying to retire fossil

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fuel electricity generation

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sources. 4. Are also trying to

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electrify vehicles and

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buildings, including in

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Hyattsville. We must carefully

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interrogate any new demand

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source for electricity

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in the state, including

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at the municipal level.

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In short, I ask that the city

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and council strongly weigh the

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energy, water and other

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environmental costs of AI as it

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develops a city policy.

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Additionally, Hyattsville can

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also raise this concern

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to the Gov AI Coalition. And

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the Gov AI Coalition can push

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the AI industry to take energy

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and environmental consideration

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seriously. Thank you for your

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time and consideration.

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>>Next we have Gopi Dokai. You

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should be able to unmute

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yourself.

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>>Great.

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>>Thank you.

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>>Can you all hear me?

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>>Yes, we can.

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>>Okay. Awesome. Good evening.

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My name is Gopi Dokai. Thank

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you so much for your time,

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council members and mayor and

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hearing all of our concerns

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out. I'm a resident of Ward 3

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in Gateway West. I'm also a

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candidate for Ward 3 City

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Council

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in this election cycle. My

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comment is around the park that

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is being voted on later

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during this meeting. That's

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in Gateway west is community.

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Currently it's a private park

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and I just wanted

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to voice my support for this

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becoming a city and public park

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so that the entire Hyattsville

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community can enjoy this. I

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know when several

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of us were first looking at

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Hyattsville as a place

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to call Home.

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>>We were attracted to the fact

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that.

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>>The city had a really strong

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sustainability plan and a plan

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to make it a walkable community

598
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and a place where lots of

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different public spaces could

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be.

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>>Offered for community to

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gather.

603
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>>And by making this into a

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public park and having it taken

605
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over by the city,

606
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I believe that it can continue

607
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on with this vision. Thank you.

608
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>>Next we go to Tatiana Lubik

609
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Valanovic. You should be able

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to unmute yourself.

611
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>>Yes. Hi, good evening, I am

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Tatiana Tanya Krubyk Lulanovik

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from World5. I hope

614
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to meet you sometime

615
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in person. Right now,

616
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I believe that I'm one

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of many residents like we heard

618
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here that are very concerned

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about our city budget. So

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that's the bottom line. Our

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general reserve fund was

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depleted

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in just last two years from 26

624
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million to 16 million. That's

625
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39% drop. And that has

626
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to stop. And the city council

627
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got email from me with more

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percentages that showed that

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even we had good revenue

630
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income. Still, the city just

631
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spent much more. And we all

632
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like services. But if we ask

633
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our residents what they pick,

634
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do they pick things. Fiscal

635
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responsibility,

636
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over trimming, servicing,

637
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getting services

638
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under control,

639
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they will pick up probably,

640
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you know, fiscal

641
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responsibility. I hope that

642
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anyone who disagree

643
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with that can tell me. But what

644
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we heard today is that we are

645
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for budget related to AI

646
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presentation that we had today.

647
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The city already started

648
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collecting very expensive

649
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,401
report proposals. There are 20

650
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of them. The report will cost

651
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$50,000. There is no price tag

652
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for AI implementation,

653
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which is very boring,

654
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not even broad assessment. So I

655
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agree with many other

656
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:04,100
presenters.

657
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,100
>>Who mentioned other aspects

658
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of AI implementation.

659
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>>But the cost is just too

660
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high. That's it. Thank you for

661
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your attention.

662
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>>Next we have Irene Marsh.

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Irene, you should be able

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to unmute yourself. Yes.

665
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>>Did that work?

666
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,100
>>Yeah, we hear you. Okay.

667
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>>Okay.

668
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>>I too am very concerned about

669
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our budget and the way we have

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been failing

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to meet deadlines related

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to audits.

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>>And so forth, and just paying

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money.

675
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>>For one consultation

676
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after another. All this money

677
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going out there and then the

678
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prospective expenses

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of doing AI, which we may not

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benefit from very.

681
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>>Much, and just that we are

682
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spending.

683
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,100
>>Money we do not have. And if

684
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:06,100
I did this with my money,

685
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:07,100
I would be living

686
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,100
on the street.

687
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:09,100
>> So I hope there will be a

688
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>>Way to cut back on our

689
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expenses.

690
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,100
>>And not run up more and more

691
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debts. Thank you.

692
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:20,100
>>Okay, go back

693
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:22,100
to the attendees. If you'd

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like to make a comment, please

695
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use the raised hand feature

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now. Last call, Mr. Marshall,

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you should be able to unmute

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yourself.

699
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>>Mayor and council members,

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my name Is Marshall.

701
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>>I'm in board four.

702
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>>While I too have budget

703
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concerns, mine are for

704
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different reasons. I am

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extremely concerned that in

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this.

707
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>>City'S steadfast and hard

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position on continuing

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to be a sanctuary city,

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that it will cost us great sums

711
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of funding and money. And my

712
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,100
concern is if that happens,

713
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that means taxes are going to

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go up.

715
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,100
>>My taxes have gone up every

716
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year.

717
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:10,100
>>Since I've lived here and

718
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they continue

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to rise. I cannot continue to

720
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pay more and more tax and the

721
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last thing I want to do is have

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a tax increase related

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on the position of sanctuary

724
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cities.

725
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,100
>>I cannot. I've never been a

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fan of this.

727
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,100
>>City becoming a sanctuary

728
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city. Most of you have been on

729
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the council a while know that

730
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aside from.

731
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>>My personal position,

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for the, for the.

733
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>>Good of this entire city,

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00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,100
you have got

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to protect the bottom line.

736
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And the way you do that is.

737
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:39,100
>>By budgeting good,

738
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by budgeting in a very

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00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:43,100
responsible manner and also by

740
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,100
managing your money well.

741
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,100
>>If you're going to operate

742
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in a form that is going

743
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,100
to cost every taxpayer

744
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100
in the city more money,

745
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,100
that.

746
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,100
>>Does not work for anyone.

747
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,100
>>It doesn't even work for all

748
00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,100
of you. The next thing I want

749
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,100
to talk about has to do

750
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,100
with city staff,

751
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,100
particularly dpw

752
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:07,100
but the city staff as a whole.

753
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,100
We have had several snow events

754
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,100
and what I've seen personally

755
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:15,100
in this city is a response that

756
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,100
is heads and shoulders

757
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,100
above other places I've been

758
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,100
in this area. Not only did we

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have snow last week on what was

760
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my trash day.

761
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,100
>>But my trash was also

762
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:27,100
collected and.

763
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,100
>>My snow was plowed.

764
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:30,100
>>Most places don't get that.

765
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,100
So thank you to the city

766
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for their work. That's all.

767
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,100
>>Last call in the attendees.

768
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,100
If you'd like

769
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,100
to make a comment, please use

770
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,401
the raised hand feature.

771
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,401
Seeing none. That concludes

772
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
public comment. Thank you very

773
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,100
much. Mr. Grunendife. Mr. Are

774
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,100
you here?

775
00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:00,601
>>Hello everyone. I am here. I

776
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
apologize for jumping

777
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:06,100
on a little late. We had

778
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,100
another meeting. I'm going to

779
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,601
share my screen if that's okay.

780
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:25,100
Let me see. Okay. Okay.

781
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,401
>>Can you see that?

782
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,100
>>Can you see that? Yes, that

783
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,100
shared. Okay, great. Okay,

784
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,100
listen, actually

785
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,100
before I begin though,

786
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:39,100
there was a lot

787
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,100
of discussion on,

788
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,100
on AI and I do want to just

789
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:46,100
clarify just a few things and I

790
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
know that's,

791
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100
that's a discussion that's

792
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:49,100
going to come up later and

793
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,100
Laura will add additional

794
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:52,100
commentary to that, but she and

795
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,100
I attended a conference

796
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at the International City

797
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,100
Managers Association. When we

798
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attended that conference,

799
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:59,100
we learned that a lot

800
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of municipalities around the

801
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,100
country had been using

802
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100
generative AI for decision

803
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:05,100
Making and. And

804
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,100
to gain efficiencies and

805
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,100
to get to do, you know,

806
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,100
evaluate data, data sets. So we

807
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
were very interested in that.

808
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
Laura volunteered

809
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,100
to take the lead on that and

810
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:19,100
to come back and try to learn

811
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,100
what other cities are doing.

812
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,100
So I do want to be clear,

813
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,100
we are not investing any money

814
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:25,100
at this time. We are

815
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:26,100
in the exploration phase. This

816
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,100
is a part

817
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,100
of us just being transparent

818
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:30,100
with the community and

819
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,100
with the council. And we just

820
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:33,100
want to let you know that we

821
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,100
are exploring, we are

822
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,100
benchmarking, we are seeing

823
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
what other cities are doing.

824
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,100
We are not

825
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100
in a place where we're using,

826
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
where we're putting any money

827
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,100
and investing any money

828
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:43,100
into this. We want

829
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:44,100
to use how. We want to

830
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,100
understand how we can use data,

831
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,100
how we can make more informed

832
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,100
decisions. We know that it is

833
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,100
very important that we do our

834
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,100
due diligence because we are

835
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,100
absolutely sure that there are

836
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,100
risks that may be associated

837
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,100
with this, including security

838
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,100
risk, environmental concerns.

839
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,100
So again, we want

840
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,100
to be transparent. We're

841
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,100
looking into this. We wanted to

842
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:03,100
let you know that we found that

843
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,100
other cities

844
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,100
across the country are using it

845
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,100
for public safety, traffic

846
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,100
management, service delivery,

847
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,100
urban planning and development,

848
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
environmental management,

849
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,100
emergency response. So we saw a

850
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,100
list of things.

851
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100
>>That other cities were doing.

852
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,100
>>We just said it's time to

853
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,601
explore this and see what it.

854
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,100
Whether or not Laura will talk

855
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,100
about that a little more.

856
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:28,100
Anytime we invest money,

857
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,100
we have to bring it back

858
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,100
to this council. And we are

859
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:34,601
very clear about doing it and

860
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,100
very transparent. We come back

861
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100
to this community council and

862
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100
we let them know if we've

863
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100
identified something, we will

864
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,100
tell them the risks associated

865
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100
with it, if there are any,

866
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100
and then we will ask

867
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,100
for the funding for this. So

868
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,100
please do not be concerned that

869
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,100
we are moving out,

870
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,100
spending money to do anything

871
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,100
with AI other than explore and

872
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,100
putting in a framework so that

873
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:53,100
if we do decide,

874
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,100
we will have that work

875
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,100
in place. So I did want

876
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,100
to just clarify that. So I'm

877
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,100
going to start

878
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,100
with the very first slide.

879
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,100
See, is this thing moving? Are

880
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,100
you seeing the next slide?

881
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,401
Something's going wrong here.

882
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,100
Can you see the agenda slide?

883
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:14,100
>>Yes, yes.

884
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100
>>Oh, good.

885
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,100
>>Okay,

886
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,100
so let's move it.

887
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,100
>>All right, so this is,

888
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,100
this is how. These are the

889
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:20,100
areas that we'll cover. All

890
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,100
right, the next one, I do want

891
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100
to shout

892
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,100
out our police department,

893
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:26,100
but. And I thank you for those

894
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,100
of you who gave compliments

895
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,100
to the. The staff. Both DPW and

896
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,100
the police have been working

897
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:31,100
very hard. And

898
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:33,100
in this particular one,

899
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,100
I do want to just shout out,

900
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,100
many of you saw Kelly

901
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
Hernandez, she was

902
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,100
on several news channels. You

903
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:41,100
can see Fox, Fox 5, 7 News, and

904
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,100
D.C. now we show. We frequently

905
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:45,100
showcase our officers. And then

906
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,100
they work and the work that

907
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:48,100
they do on social media and

908
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,100
on our websites and all

909
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,100
of these news outlets. Pick

910
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,100
this particular one up. You

911
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,100
know, Kelly just,

912
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,100
she works very hard, as all

913
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,100
of our officers do, and we are

914
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,100
really, really proud of her.

915
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,100
And the work that she did,

916
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,100
going into a burning car and

917
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,401
rescuing a motorist whose.

918
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,100
Whose legs were

919
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,100
at least thought

920
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,100
to be broken. Not sure how the

921
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,100
outcome of that. Chief, are you

922
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:13,100
on if there's anything to add

923
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,100
about Kelly?

924
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,100
>>No, ma'am, that's it. The

925
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:19,100
driver's legs were broken,

926
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,100
but other than that, that's it,

927
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:21,100
ma'am. Thank you.

928
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,100
>>Very good. All right. Thank

929
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:23,100
you. So I did want

930
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,401
to just acknowledge that.

931
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,100
Okay. And next, once again,

932
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,100
our police officers were in

933
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,100
Rosa Parks Elementary School

934
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,100
last week doing reading

935
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,100
with the. With the students.

936
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,100
They moved through. They were

937
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,100
there about two hours. We had a

938
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,100
really good time. And the kids,

939
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,100
you could see in that picture

940
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,100
to the far right,

941
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100
the kids were giving hugs

942
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,100
to the police officers. And

943
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,100
of course, they loved seeing

944
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:47,100
Lindsey there as well. So just

945
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,100
want to shout

946
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
out our officers. Another

947
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,100
program that Sandra and

948
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,100
Shakira sponsored. And Jeff

949
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,401
Ulysse, our interim director

950
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:00,100
of economic development, and

951
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,100
Sandra were the panelists,

952
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,100
and they talked

953
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:04,100
to this international group

954
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:05,100
of visitors. These visitors

955
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,100
come probably twice a year

956
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,100
from different countries.

957
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
We've had Asian countries,

958
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,100
Africa all over. This time it

959
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,100
was Middle east and North

960
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,100
Africa. They wanted

961
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,100
to hear examples

962
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,100
of successful partnerships. So

963
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,100
we appreciate Jeff and Sandra

964
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,100
for leading that. Many

965
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,100
of the staff attended. Mayor

966
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:24,100
Carlton was there as well. And

967
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:25,100
this particular session,

968
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,100
they want to focus

969
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
on human rights, poverty,

970
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
financial support,

971
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:30,100
volunteerism,

972
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,100
and just what we're doing for

973
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,100
youth and countering extremism,

974
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
trafficking and violence,

975
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,100
as you can see there. So very

976
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,100
successful meet,

977
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,100
meet and greet. Children and

978
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,100
youth again doing some good

979
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
things over there

980
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,100
in the youth center. The drop

981
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,100
in center meets three nights a

982
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,100
week. In this last class, last

983
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:53,100
week they had a cycling class

984
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,100
from Kristen Fajardo and they

985
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,100
learned all about safe cycling

986
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,100
and other benefits

987
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,100
to cycling. And he raffled two

988
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,100
bikes. So two of our youth who

989
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
attended were able to leave

990
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,100
for the afternoon

991
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,601
with new bikes. And last second

992
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,100
to last slide. We've got a few

993
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,100
events coming up. We've got the

994
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:13,100
taste of black history. That's

995
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,100
going to be this Thursday the

996
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,601
20th. And over in at Flavors

997
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,100
in Ward 3. And we have a

998
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,100
financial literacy session that

999
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,100
is for Youth in grades 6

1000
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,100
through 12 who attend school

1001
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,100
here in the city of

1002
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,100
Hyattsville. So those. Look

1003
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100
for those two events coming up.

1004
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
And then I'm going

1005
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,100
to talk. I'm going

1006
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:36,100
to hand this off to Ron

1007
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,100
before I go

1008
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,100
through the weekly offerings.

1009
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,100
This is just a quick audit

1010
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,100
update. We are in. We are

1011
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,100
thrilled that we finally got

1012
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,100
23 in. So he's got it

1013
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,100
in hand. It's pretty thick.

1014
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,100
He's going through it and we

1015
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,100
should be able to.

1016
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:52,100
To get that thing out of here

1017
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:53,100
within the next two weeks.

1018
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
Ron, you want

1019
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100
to take this one?

1020
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,100
>>Thank you, City

1021
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,100
Administrator. Yes, thank you

1022
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,100
so, so much. Good evening,

1023
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:04,100
council and citizens. Did I

1024
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
lose you?

1025
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,100
>>No.

1026
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,100
>>Okay, great, great. Yes,

1027
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,100
Just a quick update. Just kind

1028
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,100
of following behind City

1029
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100
Administrator Douglas. Yes. So

1030
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,100
I have the final draft of FY23.

1031
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,100
>>We are a couple weeks

1032
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,100
behind plan schedule to

1033
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,100
complete and file.

1034
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,100
>>What I didn't take

1035
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
into consideration, what.

1036
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,100
>>I didn't know was the current

1037
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,100
outgoing CPA firm staff was

1038
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,100
out the first.

1039
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,100
>>Two weeks of January.

1040
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,100
>>So that pretty much put us

1041
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,100
behind a couple weeks.

1042
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,100
>>But again, I'm confident that

1043
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,100
we can complete FY23 and I get

1044
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,100
that submitted to the state,

1045
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,100
hopefully within the next.

1046
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,100
>>Two weeks or less.

1047
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100
>>As I mentioned before,

1048
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
as we talked

1049
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,100
about previously,

1050
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
we do have a new firm. We

1051
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,100
issued a request

1052
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,100
for proposal come back in

1053
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,100
November. We selected

1054
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:57,100
Solinskoff and Axel Ride.

1055
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,401
>>There will be Axelrod.

1056
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,100
>>They will begin working

1057
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,100
on FY24. They're going

1058
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,100
to be contracted

1059
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:07,100
to complete FY24, 25 and 26. I

1060
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,100
anticipate, my hope and

1061
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,100
anticipation is that we

1062
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,100
complete 23, get 24 completed

1063
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,401
by spring and spring,

1064
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,100
early spring.

1065
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
>>And by the time we complete

1066
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:21,100
fiscal.

1067
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,401
>>Year 25, 25 is due October

1068
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:27,100
31 by state law and hopefully

1069
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
by the end of the year, if not

1070
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
completed.

1071
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:30,100
>>At least close to completion

1072
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,100
for FY25.

1073
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,401
>>So we're getting there.

1074
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
Typically you can only get one

1075
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,100
audit done a year. But on.

1076
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,100
On top

1077
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,100
of the other requirements

1078
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:42,100
for the charter, for the.

1079
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,100
For the treasurer,

1080
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,100
in the process of also crafting

1081
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,100
the FY26 budget. So I want

1082
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,100
to thank everyone

1083
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,100
for their support. We continue.

1084
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,100
My staff and I will continue

1085
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,100
to put forth the effort

1086
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,100
to be transparent and,

1087
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,100
and again. And we take all of

1088
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
the comments very seriously and

1089
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,100
we continue to try

1090
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,100
to be more. Just try to be

1091
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,100
diligent and get all the

1092
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,100
financial information due to

1093
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,100
this legislative body as

1094
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,100
required. Thank you.

1095
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:07,100
>>Yeah. And our new auditing

1096
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,100
firm is ready to go, so Ron

1097
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,100
said that they're anxious

1098
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,100
to get started,

1099
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,100
so we're ready as well. Okay,

1100
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,100
thanks, Ron. So I'm gonna just

1101
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,100
go through weekly offerings.

1102
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100
We've got the seated yoga

1103
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,100
class, that's for older adults

1104
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,100
and that's every Wednesday

1105
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,100
from 10 to 11. And then we also

1106
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
have the free Zumba class,

1107
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,100
that's Wednesdays four

1108
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,100
to five. We have winter

1109
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,100
creative mind sessions. You can

1110
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,100
see the dates here.

1111
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,100
But they're starting in

1112
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,100
January. They started in

1113
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,100
January and they'll go

1114
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:35,100
through March 11th. And then

1115
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,100
English sessions are on

1116
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,100
Tuesday. Spanish sessions are

1117
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,401
Thursdays, same time, 10 to

1118
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,100
11, 11:30, rather. Got some

1119
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100
committee meetings coming up.

1120
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
We've got code compliance on

1121
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,100
February 19th this week

1122
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,100
tomorrow. Education facilities

1123
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:52,100
task force is this Thursday.

1124
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:54,100
And education advisory

1125
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,401
committee meeting is next

1126
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,100
Monday the 24th. And then we've

1127
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,100
got the cert team, that's

1128
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
Wednesday, tomorrow evening

1129
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
right here in the building.

1130
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,100
Fields permit meeting. It's

1131
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
about that time now for people

1132
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,100
to start getting information

1133
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,100
on getting field permits. Camp

1134
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,100
coach in training. That that's

1135
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,100
open now for registration. So

1136
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,401
for anyone that wants

1137
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,100
to sign up. Actually, I think,

1138
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:19,100
Sandra, correct me,

1139
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,100
I think it doesn't open

1140
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:22,100
until the 20th. So that's when

1141
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
they can start signing up,

1142
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,100
Correct?

1143
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,100
>>Yes, that's actually it will

1144
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,100
open the application

1145
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,100
on the 20th for the coaches and

1146
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,100
then the 20th with also open

1147
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,401
spring and summer camps

1148
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,100
registration for the little

1149
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,100
ones.

1150
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
>>Perfect. All right,

1151
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
then we've got Narcan training

1152
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,100
this Thursday as well here at

1153
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,100
the city building. I mentioned

1154
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,100
Taste of Black History. And

1155
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
then finally Partner Care

1156
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,100
Partner support group

1157
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,100
on the 21st. And Narcan

1158
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,100
training. Narcan training in

1159
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,401
Spanish again, that's Friday.

1160
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
And Parent child dance party

1161
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,100
Saturday. This Saturday, Plant

1162
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,401
propaganda workshop is Sunday

1163
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,100
the 23rd. And lunch and Learn

1164
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,100
workshop rec desk, tutorial

1165
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,100
for older adults and

1166
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,100
for caregivers. And that's

1167
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,100
going to be on Monday the 24th.

1168
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,100
Okay, I'm going to stop share

1169
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,100
and take any questions you may

1170
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,100
have for me.

1171
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:20,100
>>Colleagues,

1172
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,401
comments or questions. Mr.

1173
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,100
Shagla, thank you.

1174
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,100
>>I don't need an answer

1175
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:29,100
on this now. I don't expect you

1176
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,100
to necessarily have one,

1177
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,100
but I just want

1178
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:33,100
to put a plug in. I've heard

1179
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,100
from several constituents

1180
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,100
asking about the status of the

1181
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,100
parade and if and when we may

1182
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,100
bring that parade back. Desire

1183
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:44,100
to have it come back. So don't

1184
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:48,100
want to put you on the spot,

1185
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,100
but maybe I'm curious to know

1186
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,100
too what the long term planning

1187
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,100
is related to the parade.

1188
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,100
Thank you.

1189
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,100
>>Okay, thank you. And yes,

1190
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:57,100
I cannot answer that

1191
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,100
at this time. We have had

1192
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,100
discussions

1193
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,100
on it because there is a lot

1194
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,100
of staff time involved

1195
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,100
in that. A Lot

1196
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,100
of planning and a lot

1197
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
of coordination. So we have had

1198
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,100
discussions about it. I don't

1199
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,100
know that we have actually come

1200
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,100
to a decision

1201
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,100
on whether we'll be able to

1202
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,100
bring it back this year or not,

1203
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,100
but I do. I will get you an

1204
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
answer on that after we have

1205
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,100
another meeting.

1206
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,100
>>All right, does anyone else

1207
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,100
have any questions or comments?

1208
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
Okay. Seeing none. I believe we

1209
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,100
have a presentation is

1210
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,100
on the.

1211
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:35,100
>>Absolutely. And that will be.

1212
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,100
I think Leslie's going

1213
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,100
to open that up,

1214
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
and I believe Hal's going

1215
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
to present.

1216
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,100
>>Good evening,

1217
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,100
mayor and council. We are going

1218
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,100
to give you an update

1219
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,100
on where we are currently

1220
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,100
with 3505 moving towards

1221
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,100
substantial completion.

1222
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,100
Deputy Director Hal Metzler is

1223
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100
here to present this to you.

1224
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,401
Hal, are you there?

1225
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,100
>>Yes, I am here. All right,

1226
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,100
let me share my screen and

1227
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,100
we'll get started.

1228
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
>>Awesome.

1229
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,100
>>Thank you.

1230
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:26,100
>>All right. Good evening,

1231
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:28,100
mayor and council. I am here

1232
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,100
to give you an update on the

1233
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,100
Hyattsville Public Safety

1234
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,100
building project. The 3505

1235
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,401
Hamilton street adaptive reuse

1236
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,100
project,

1237
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:40,100
the new police station. It's

1238
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:41,100
had a number of names

1239
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,100
over the years,

1240
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:44,100
but we mostly just call it

1241
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:48,201
3505. So we. Let me move to the

1242
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
next slide here and just kind

1243
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,100
of give everyone a little

1244
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
background of how we got

1245
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,100
to where we are currently. It

1246
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:59,100
started back in 2010 when the

1247
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,100
city acquired 3505 Hamilton

1248
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,100
street in 2011, there was a

1249
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,100
space utilization study that

1250
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,100
looked at all of the city's

1251
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,100
buildings and kind of, you

1252
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,100
know, gave the city a kind

1253
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:16,100
of a plan of how

1254
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,100
to move forward with some of

1255
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,100
the properties that the city

1256
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:25,100
owned. In May of 2015, the

1257
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,401
council passed a motion

1258
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,401
to authorize to proceed

1259
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,100
on moving 3505. Excuse me.

1260
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,100
On moving the Hyattsville

1261
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
Police Department to 3505

1262
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,401
Hamilton Street. From there,

1263
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
the city hired the city project

1264
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,100
manager, which was myself at

1265
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,100
the time still the project

1266
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:48,100
manager for this project. And

1267
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,401
from here on out,

1268
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,100
I know a lot more about what's

1269
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,100
going on. I wasn't able

1270
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,100
to find a whole lot

1271
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:57,100
of information on some

1272
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:58,100
of the previous background,

1273
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,100
but from here out, this is

1274
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,100
everything I have worked on.

1275
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,100
In the spring of 2016, we

1276
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,100
solicited an RFP

1277
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,100
for an engineering firm

1278
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,100
to design the building, and JMT

1279
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:16,601
was selected as that firm and

1280
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:19,100
approved by the council. In

1281
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,601
April of 2016. We did our first

1282
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,100
kind of initial concepts of the

1283
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,100
building and the project and

1284
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,100
how it could work

1285
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,100
in that space. Came up

1286
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,100
with some initial estimates

1287
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,100
for the project, and it was

1288
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,401
decided that we needed

1289
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
to just look at some

1290
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,100
of the other options for where

1291
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,100
the where the city services

1292
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,100
could be relocated. So we did

1293
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,100
do an evaluation of additional

1294
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,100
locations where the police

1295
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,100
department could be relocated

1296
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,100
and where the city

1297
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,100
administration offices could be

1298
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,100
located. We did evaluate

1299
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:04,100
options where they could both

1300
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,100
be co located and separate

1301
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,100
locations. And we did present

1302
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,100
that information to council.

1303
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,100
In February of 2017, it was

1304
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,100
decided to continue with the

1305
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,401
3505 location and the council

1306
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:22,100
again voted in May of 2017

1307
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,100
to proceed with this reuse of

1308
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,100
3505 Hamilton street

1309
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,100
over the next several years.

1310
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,100
From between May 2017 and the

1311
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:38,100
spring of 2022, our team was

1312
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,100
working on all

1313
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,100
of the engineering, the design,

1314
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,401
the permitting and the

1315
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,100
solicitation of the project,

1316
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,100
which was

1317
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:50,401
like many things affected

1318
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,100
by the pandemic,

1319
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:54,100
which did put some delays

1320
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,401
into the process, especially

1321
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
the permitting process. We

1322
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,100
finally got it out to bid

1323
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,100
in the fall of 2021. And

1324
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:09,100
in the spring of 2022, we

1325
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,100
selected Whiting Turner as the

1326
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,100
best option

1327
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:15,100
for the construction

1328
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,100
of the project. They provided

1329
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,100
the best value to the city and

1330
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,401
the council approved their

1331
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
contract in. It did take us a

1332
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,100
couple months to get a contract

1333
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,401
negotiated and was finally

1334
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,100
signed in July of 2022 and we

1335
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,100
held our groundbreaking in

1336
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:37,100
September of 2022. For those of

1337
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,100
you that were there or weren't

1338
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,100
there,

1339
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:42,100
just got a quick little video

1340
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:44,401
of our ceremony here

1341
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:46,100
to celebrate the beginning

1342
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:50,201
of the project. I know some of

1343
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,100
you could probably see yourself

1344
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
in the video and we definitely

1345
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,100
got a lot

1346
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:00,100
of video and pictures

1347
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:03,100
to share as we go

1348
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,100
through closing

1349
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:07,100
out this project here. The

1350
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:10,100
project began construction

1351
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,100
shortly after that

1352
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
groundbreaking and it has

1353
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,100
continued continuous

1354
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,100
through today. Last year in

1355
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:20,100
2024, we did have to come back

1356
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,100
to council first in January

1357
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:25,100
to get authorization

1358
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:28,100
for a change order to combine

1359
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,100
the security and it portions

1360
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,100
of the project into the

1361
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,100
Whiting Turner contract. It was

1362
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,100
originally broken out

1363
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,100
into multiple vendors and due

1364
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:41,100
to some lessons learned,

1365
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:43,100
we decided it was best

1366
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:45,100
to combine that all under

1367
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,100
Whiting Turner to give the city

1368
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,100
the best product and best

1369
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,100
protection for that work.

1370
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,100
Again, we. Once that work was

1371
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,100
authorized, we did have

1372
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,100
to come back a second time

1373
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,100
for some general conditions.

1374
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,100
And that general conditions

1375
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,100
just covered all these. All the

1376
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,100
minor changes

1377
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,100
to the project that occur

1378
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,100
in this type

1379
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:10,100
of adaptive reuse. There's

1380
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,100
always, you know,

1381
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:15,100
unknowns that come up. There

1382
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:16,100
was some additional work that

1383
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,100
needed to be done to

1384
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,100
accommodate the security and

1385
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,100
it. And that was what was

1386
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,401
approved in July of 2024.

1387
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:25,100
They've been continuing

1388
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,100
to work and I just wanted to

1389
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,100
Give everyone a quick update on

1390
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,100
the progress and then we'll

1391
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,100
talk about the schedule for

1392
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:36,100
going forward. I got a number

1393
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,100
of photos here. I'm going

1394
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,100
to go through them kind

1395
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:43,100
of quick and just kind of show

1396
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
everyone where we've been and

1397
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,100
where we're. Where we're going

1398
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,100
with this. This is the first.

1399
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,100
Many of you might remember that

1400
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,100
we have this great mural that

1401
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:53,100
was commissioned by the bank

1402
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,100
back when the bank was first

1403
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,100
opened. We did take this out.

1404
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,100
We did have it restored. And

1405
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,100
Mr. Igali here, the gentleman

1406
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,100
on the left, is the original

1407
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,401
artist that painted this

1408
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:10,100
painting. I believe it was

1409
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:13,100
in the 60s. He is still

1410
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:16,100
with us. He did a great job

1411
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,100
of working with his team to

1412
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,100
clean up and restore this

1413
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,100
painting and repair some damage

1414
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:24,100
that was done just over time

1415
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,100
and where it was located in

1416
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:30,100
case people never saw it or you

1417
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:31,100
don't remember. This is kind

1418
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,100
of what the lobby looked like

1419
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,100
when we started the building.

1420
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,100
And now you can see we've kept

1421
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
a lot of these original details

1422
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,100
and appearance

1423
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,100
in this lobby and wanted

1424
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,100
to really kind

1425
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,100
of keep that feel going. Just

1426
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,100
another quick view of the lobby

1427
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,100
here and we're looking at the

1428
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,100
area that is now the new

1429
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,100
community room for.

1430
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,100
For this building. And we feel

1431
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,100
this is going

1432
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:01,100
to be a great space. Could be

1433
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:02,100
very similar to the Prangley

1434
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,100
Room. It's going to provide a

1435
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,100
great meeting room and a great

1436
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,401
option for the public

1437
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:12,100
to gather on that side

1438
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:15,100
of the city. We did want

1439
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:16,100
to show this. This room is one

1440
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,100
of my favorite rooms. It was

1441
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:19,100
one

1442
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:20,100
of the original bank president.

1443
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,100
President's office

1444
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,100
with all this great paneling.

1445
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,100
And if some of you saw it,

1446
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:26,100
I couldn't find a picture.

1447
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:27,100
But some of the paneling had

1448
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,100
just been damaged

1449
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,100
over the years. There were a

1450
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:31,100
lot of splits and cracks. And

1451
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:34,100
they did a great job of kind of

1452
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:36,100
restoring the original look and

1453
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:37,100
feel of this space. And this

1454
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,100
is. It's going

1455
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,100
to be a great room. When you

1456
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,100
get to come see it next,

1457
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,100
I want to kind of move up

1458
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:45,100
to the third floor. This is

1459
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,100
another great change that that

1460
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,100
occurred. You can kind of see

1461
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,100
on the picture on the.

1462
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,100
On the left and then

1463
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:53,100
on the right. The left was what

1464
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,100
it kind of looked like. And the

1465
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,100
right is the progress

1466
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,100
of the demo. We had. They had

1467
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:01,100
built out all these walls,

1468
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,100
these kind of knee walls

1469
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,100
to there. They are required

1470
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:06,100
by code

1471
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,100
to give some head protection

1472
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
to the ceiling. And the bank

1473
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
had built them out this way,

1474
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,100
which, as you can see, kind

1475
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:14,100
of made it very dark. He had

1476
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,100
these

1477
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:16,100
like long little hallways

1478
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,100
to get down to the windows.

1479
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,100
And we were able

1480
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:24,100
to open those up and you know,

1481
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,100
use some, some built

1482
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:27,100
in furniture to, to provide

1483
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,100
that head protection. And we

1484
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,100
did that everywhere up here on

1485
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:33,100
this third floor and you know,

1486
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:34,100
open the space up,

1487
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:36,100
we got a lot more natural

1488
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,100
light, which was one of the,

1489
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:39,401
the very important things.

1490
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
Buildings. The, the current

1491
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,100
department, if you know

1492
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,100
about it, half the offices are

1493
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,100
closets and storage rooms that

1494
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,100
were converted. Many

1495
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,100
of them don't have windows.

1496
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,100
And you know, for,

1497
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,100
for people's mental health,

1498
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,100
it's, you know, having access

1499
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,100
to sunlight was really

1500
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,100
important. And so we were,

1501
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,100
we're glad we were able

1502
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:00,100
to kind of open up a lot of

1503
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,100
these windows and get a lot

1504
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100
more natural light

1505
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,401
into these spaces. Likewise

1506
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,100
these pictures here, it looks

1507
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:11,100
like the light is on, but these

1508
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,100
are actually solar tubes. So

1509
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,100
that is natural sunlight that

1510
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,100
is brought in

1511
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,100
through a skylight in a series

1512
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,100
of reflective tubing

1513
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,100
to bring that natural light

1514
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,100
into the space. So rooms that

1515
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:25,100
didn't have an exterior window

1516
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:26,100
did get some solar tubes

1517
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,100
to kind

1518
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:29,100
of help bring that natural

1519
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,100
light into the space. These

1520
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,100
next couple slides are just

1521
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:36,100
kind of showing some of the

1522
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
great improvements that have

1523
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,100
been made so that the police

1524
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,100
staff can do their job better.

1525
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:46,100
This is the evidence processing

1526
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,100
area. If you saw it

1527
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,100
in the current station. It's

1528
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:50,401
again basically a converted

1529
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:52,100
closet with a countertop on

1530
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:55,100
some cabinets and an old postal

1531
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,100
mailbox that they use

1532
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:59,100
to secure their evidence. Here

1533
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,100
now there's room for officers

1534
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,100
to process evidence as that

1535
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,100
comes in and then put it into

1536
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,100
these secure lockers so that

1537
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
there's a better chain

1538
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,100
of evidence

1539
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,100
for the evidence that comes in.

1540
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
And when the officers need

1541
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:16,100
to go to court, they've got a

1542
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:19,100
much better process to document

1543
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,401
where the evidence was.

1544
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,100
Likewise, we have this great

1545
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,601
new space. This space is just

1546
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:31,100
for evidence processing.

1547
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,100
Again, they're currently

1548
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:34,100
in a very small,

1549
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,100
cramped room that is not

1550
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,100
really, wasn't ever really

1551
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,100
built as a lab. It was just a

1552
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,100
corner of an office that kind

1553
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:44,100
of got converted to a space.

1554
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,100
And now we've got an actual lab

1555
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,100
that is built

1556
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,401
to those particular standards.

1557
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:58,100
Next, I just wanted to kind

1558
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:59,100
of go over our communication

1559
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:00,100
space a little. This is another

1560
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,100
great resource for the city.

1561
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,100
You know, we, we planned this

1562
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,401
new communications room that's

1563
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:08,100
in this suite where there's

1564
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,100
offices, there's a break room,

1565
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100
there's lockers,

1566
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,100
there's a locker room, there

1567
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
will be a bathroom so our

1568
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,100
communications staff can have

1569
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,100
everything they need and be

1570
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:20,100
in their space. So if something

1571
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,100
does happen, there's an

1572
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,100
emergency, we need

1573
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:27,100
to get folks Back

1574
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,100
to their stations in a hurry.

1575
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,100
They're not elsewhere

1576
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
in the building. They're able

1577
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
to kind of do what they need

1578
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100
to do and stay in their space

1579
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,401
for those emergency situations.

1580
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,100
This is just

1581
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,100
to show you as we build out the

1582
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,100
space this far wall here is

1583
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:51,100
going to be our video wall

1584
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,100
which will. Right now we have a

1585
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:54,100
couple TVs mounted

1586
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:57,100
on the wall. They do an okay

1587
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:58,100
job, but you know, we're going

1588
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:59,100
to have a video wall built here

1589
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:00,100
so that they can monitor all

1590
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:01,100
the citywide cameras and all

1591
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,100
the building cameras. As all

1592
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:06,100
these facilities get completed,

1593
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,100
all the cameras from all of the

1594
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,100
city's buildings will feed

1595
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:13,100
into this, into this building

1596
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:14,100
and our dispatch staff will be

1597
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,100
able to monitor all the cameras

1598
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:18,401
that are, that are

1599
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:21,100
in the city. And then just an

1600
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:23,100
example of the workstations.

1601
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:25,401
These are purpose built

1602
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
workstations which are a lot

1603
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:32,100
better than the currently kind

1604
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,100
of cobbled together desks and

1605
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,401
workstations that the staff

1606
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:40,100
have. It will provide a much

1607
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:42,100
more comfortable working

1608
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,100
environment

1609
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:46,100
for the dispatchers who are on.

1610
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,100
The chief will correct me,

1611
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:49,100
but I believe they're on 12

1612
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
hour shifts. So we need

1613
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
to make sure that they can,

1614
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,100
you know, work comfortably and

1615
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,100
work productively

1616
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,100
in these spaces. And that's

1617
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,100
what, you know,

1618
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,401
these consoles will allow.

1619
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,100
It's been a long time

1620
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
since we've seen this,

1621
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,100
but this is what the,

1622
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,100
the building used

1623
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:11,100
to look like. For those of you

1624
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,100
that might not be familiar or

1625
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
remember kind of, kind

1626
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:18,100
of what it looked like. It, you

1627
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:21,100
know, they, they, you know,

1628
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,100
they had the old 80s style

1629
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,100
sign. You know, the, there was

1630
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:27,100
just, you know, some lack

1631
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,100
of maintenance that happens

1632
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
with an older building,

1633
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:32,100
including this giant ramp

1634
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,100
in the front that was not up

1635
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,100
to current ADA codes. And you

1636
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:41,100
can see here we've got a much

1637
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:44,100
more kind of inviting plaza

1638
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:47,100
to welcome folks in. There'll

1639
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:49,100
be a memorial wall

1640
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,100
on the left, the flags. The

1641
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,100
ramp is kind of built

1642
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:55,100
into the, into the plaza. So

1643
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,100
it's not, you know, just kind

1644
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,100
of, you know, sticking out

1645
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:00,100
into the sidewalk. It's, it's

1646
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:01,100
kind of part of the,

1647
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,100
the whole landscape. And this

1648
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:07,100
is a really nice, going to be a

1649
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,100
really nice welcoming feature

1650
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:12,100
for, for the building. What's

1651
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:16,601
coming up next is that in

1652
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:19,100
March 2025, Whiting Turner is

1653
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:21,100
planning to work

1654
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:23,100
with the county to get our

1655
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:25,100
temporary use and occupancy

1656
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:27,100
permit which will get us to the

1657
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:28,100
substantial completion portion

1658
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,100
of the project. Substantial

1659
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,100
completion. And the temporary

1660
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,100
use and occupancy means that we

1661
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,100
can start scheduling things

1662
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,100
like installation

1663
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,100
of furniture and installation

1664
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:39,100
of the communications

1665
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:41,100
Equipment while Whiting Turner

1666
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,100
kind of wraps up some

1667
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:45,100
of the smaller items, some

1668
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:46,100
of the outside items,

1669
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:48,401
the parking lot, things

1670
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,100
like that, we're anticipating

1671
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,100
by May 2025, we'll be working

1672
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,100
on the punch list items. And

1673
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:59,100
that's just all those final

1674
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:02,100
little, you know, repairs, you

1675
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,100
know, any, anything that got

1676
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,100
nicked or damaged. The walls

1677
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,100
get scuffed. That's what the

1678
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,100
punch list is for. We have our

1679
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,100
inspection and commissioning

1680
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:14,100
teams that will be checking

1681
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,100
everything out. They'll make

1682
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,100
sure all the outlets work,

1683
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
they'll make sure the H Vac

1684
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:19,100
system is up and running

1685
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:20,100
properly. And anything that

1686
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:21,100
needs

1687
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:22,100
to be done will be completed

1688
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,100
during this punch list phase.

1689
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:25,100
The nice thing is that once we

1690
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,100
get to the punch list phase, we

1691
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,100
can start scheduling the

1692
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:30,100
occupancy by the Hyattsville

1693
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:32,401
Police Department and start

1694
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:35,100
moving staff over. Once we get

1695
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:36,100
down to this point

1696
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:39,100
of the project. And then

1697
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,401
August 2025, we anticipate the

1698
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,401
final completion and acceptance

1699
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:49,100
of the project. This date could

1700
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:50,100
be moved up,

1701
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
but we anticipate that the

1702
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:53,100
August 2025 is kind of the

1703
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,100
latest that this will occur.

1704
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,100
And once we get

1705
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:59,100
to final completion, Whiting

1706
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:01,100
Turner will be be done

1707
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:04,100
with their, with their work

1708
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,100
on the project. They'll turn,

1709
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:08,100
I'll turn all the keys and

1710
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,100
everything back over and the

1711
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,100
building will be fully ours to,

1712
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,100
to occupy and use. So

1713
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:16,100
with that, are there any, any

1714
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:18,100
questions I can answer?

1715
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,100
>>Thank you. Mr. Metzl, can you

1716
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,100
stop sharing your screen,

1717
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,100
please? Thank you. Council

1718
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:26,100
members. Questions? Comments?

1719
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,100
Seeing none. Great

1720
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,100
presentation, Mr. Metzler.

1721
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,100
>>Thank you everybody.

1722
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:39,100
>>Okay, we have another

1723
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,100
presentation, Artificial

1724
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,100
intelligence.

1725
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:43,100
>>Oh my goodness. I guess

1726
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,100
everybody's holding all the

1727
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,100
questions for me.

1728
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:47,100
>>Absolutely.

1729
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:48,100
>>That's great.

1730
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
>>Hands are going up now.

1731
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,100
>>Awesome. Let me share my

1732
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screen and we'll get started.

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Hopefully you can see my

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screen. So. Good evening,

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mayor and council

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of residents. First off,

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I just want to thank everybody

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for the interest

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00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:03,100
in this presentation. That is

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definitely good to see. So

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tonight we're here,

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we're going

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00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:08,100
to take a high level look

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00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:09,100
at AI, how it's developing in

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00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:10,100
local government work and what

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it could mean for

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Hyattsville. As Tracy

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mentioned, just

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to give you some backstory

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on how we got here,

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00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,100
this started for me and Tracy

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00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:20,100
back at last summer's

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00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,100
Municipal League conference

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where AI was just starting

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to get serious attention. Fast

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forward from there to last

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September at the

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International City Managers

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Conference Tracy and I

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attended. AI was just

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everywhere, so nearly vendor

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every conversation it was

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coming up so. And

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beyond all that hype, there was

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a common theme that also kept

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Coming up. So curiosity mixed

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with a level of apprehension.

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And I want to say that I get

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it. AI can absolutely feel

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intimidating and there are

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definitely real risks

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in using it. So the reality is

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though, that the technology is

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here and it's not going away.

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So that is why we think it's

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important

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to proactively address this use

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in our city. So with that,

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let's get to it. This is the

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agenda that we'll cover

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in the presentation. We're

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going to first look

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at some basics to ensure that

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we're speaking the same

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language about AI,

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common terminology and

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functions, and then we'll

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review some high level benefits

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and risks of AI, as well as

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existing guidance and best

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practices. Finally, we'll

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finish up

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with some recommendations for

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Heizo. So first up,

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the future is now. AI is

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rapidly evolving, it's rapidly

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expanding. I've seen at least

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10 commercials

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during the last Super bowl

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about AI. And what you'll see

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on the next few slides are some

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common tools that are

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incorporating AI. So Google

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search and translate. I don't

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even think I turned this on,

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but now I get the AI overview

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whenever I Google something.

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Social media algorithms have

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been a thing

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for quite some time now. The

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Domino's Pizza Chatbot, my kids

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love that. So that place orders

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with domino pizza now plenty

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of smart home devices, Alexa,

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all of that stuff. Your live

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traffic navigation that is

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avoiding you out

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of high traffic area,

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the face ID on your phone and

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Siri. So just a few examples

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there. So what exactly is AI?

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So just kind

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of laying it out. So we have a

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common definition here. So it's

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technology that mimics human

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learning and can complete

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tasks, automate processes,

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recognize and predict patterns,

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solve problems and generate

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content. So there's several key

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areas

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of AI listed here. I'm going

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to briefly try and go over them

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and I'll try and share a real

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world example making it

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relatively simple and hopefully

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easy to understand each

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of these areas. So first off,

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machine learning,

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that is teaching machines

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to learn

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from data and improving

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over time. So an example

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of this is your Netflix

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recommendation system. So

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Netflix looks

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at your watch history, your

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viewing patterns and then it

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suggests shows and movies that

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you might like based on your

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previous likes and watches,

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natural language processing.

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So that's helping machines

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understand and respond

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to human language. So a good

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example

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of this one are voice

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assistants like Siri or

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Alexa. My kids love asking

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Alexa first thing

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in the morning,

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what's the weather today? And

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when you're asking Alexa that

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processes your speech, it's

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understanding what your intent

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is with the question, it's

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retrieving that weather data

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and it's responding

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with an answer

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in a natural language. Then

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there's computer vision,

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which is enabling machines to

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interpret and analyze visual

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images or videos. An example

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of that that we've had

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for some time now is Google

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Photos face recognition,

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or if you use Amazon photos,

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or if you use iPhone photos,

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that face recognition. So that

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is where photos can

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automatically detect and

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categorize people

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in your pictures, allowing you

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to search for your mom or your

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kid's name and find all the

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images featuring them, even if

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they're taken years apart. And

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finally robotics,

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which is using AI

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to control machines

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to perform tasks. So an example

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of that are those robot vacuums

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that clean your homes. They map

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the environment, they detect

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obstacles, and they learn good

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cleaning paths

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over time. I mean,

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another good example of that

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one I think everybody's

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familiar with are the self

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driving cars that we hear

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about. So when we talk

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about AI, there are typically

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two types that we're speaking

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of. There's predictive AI and

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generative AI. So predictive AI

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uses previous examples or

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system data

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to predict those outcomes. So

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that example I gave earlier

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about your Netflix queue is one

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example. Others are your email

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filters. So sorting those

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messages

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into your priority inbox, your

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spam, your promotional folders,

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those are all based on looking

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at previous patterns.

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Generative AI or gen AI is

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probably the one that you've

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heard people talk

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about most lately. Genai uses

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large language models,

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LLMs and machine learning to

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analyze data and produce new

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content. So that new content

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can include text,

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images and even audio. So the

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most well known example that

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you've probably heard of is

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ChatGPT,

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but there are definitely others

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out there. So why do we care

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about AI? Let's talk

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about it. So let's take a few

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minutes just to review the

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benefits as well as the risks

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and then look

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at some use cases

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for local government

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for benefits. It is definitely

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pretty clear that AI

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at least has the potential

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to be transformative. So AI

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tools can help us enhance

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efficiencies, improve services,

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make those database decisions,

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and these tools can encourage

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modernization and innovation.

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And what we've seen are that

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even relatively simple AI

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tools, things like the AI.

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Oops, sorry, jumped ahead. So

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even things

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like the AI note taker,

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that can really increase

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efficiencies, save time and

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potentially reduce costs. So I

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am someone who spent a good

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portion of my career here in

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high school writing council

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meeting minutes and I can't

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imagine what a time saver,

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potentially something

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like that could be on that. So

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staff can focus

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on other priorities. What we're

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also seeing is that many of the

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tools that local governments

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are already using are starting

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to introduce AI tools

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into their existing platforms.

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So just a small example

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of this one,

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although we see more and more

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of them every day,

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I received an email from Zoom

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just the other day introducing

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their built

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in AI companion tool. So we can

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see that the benefits

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of AI tools can be significant.

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But while we consider them,

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we also of course have to look

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at the flip side and talk

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through some

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of the risks as well. So I

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definitely want to be clear

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here that AI use has risks and

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potential ethical implications.

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So I've listed out a few

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of them here. We'll just kind

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of briefly go over them. The

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bias and discrimination so AI

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models can perpetuate existing

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biases in data. So when the

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data that's being used

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with the AI models is biased,

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those biases can also get baked

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into the results or decisions

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generated by AI, further

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perpetuating those biases and

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discrimination and causing

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further harm. So that is

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definitely a significant risk

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that there Privacy concerns. A

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few people mentioned this

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earlier. It's definitely a good

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point. The use of ChatGPT is a

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good example

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of how privacy concerns can

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come into play with Gen AI.

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When you use Chat, GPT or

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similar model,

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every text you put

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into that model is sent to an

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AI system which then processes

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that information

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to generate the response. So if

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01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:25,100
you're sharing personal

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01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,100
identifying information when

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01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,100
you're using these tools, there

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01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:30,100
is a risk that that information

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01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:31,100
could be stored, analyzed,

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01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,100
or even accessed by humans

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01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:35,100
on the other side of the model

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01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:36,100
for training or improvement

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01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:37,100
purposes. So that is a serious

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01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,100
risk. And we've seen other

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01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:41,100
local governments kind

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01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:44,100
of straight out ban the use of

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01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:46,100
personal identifying

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01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,100
information with those types

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01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,401
of models. Hallucinations. So

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01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,100
those are incorrect or

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01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,100
misleading results generated

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01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:55,100
by AI. AI doesn't actually

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01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,100
think like a human does. It

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01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:59,100
just predicts words or patterns

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01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:00,100
based

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01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:02,100
on the data it's seen before.

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01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:04,100
And sometimes when it doesn't

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01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:05,100
have that right information,

2045
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
it can fill in those gaps with

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01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,100
either made up or incorrect

2047
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,100
answers, but present them

2048
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:13,100
to the users as facts. And so

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01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
that's called an AI

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01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,100
hallucination. So one example

2051
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,100
we see lots of cities who are

2052
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:21,100
using website chatbots now is

2053
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:22,100
if you ask the website chatbot

2054
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:24,100
who is the mayor of Hyattville

2055
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:25,100
and the AI for whatever reason

2056
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,100
didn't have up

2057
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
to date information on that, it

2058
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:29,100
might just make up a name

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01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:31,100
admitting that it didn't know.

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01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:32,100
So the answer seems real,

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01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:34,100
but it's completely false. So

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01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:35,100
that is something that can be

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01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:37,100
dangerous when you're using AI

2064
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:39,100
for public services and

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01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,100
transparency challenges. So

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01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,100
black box problem, what that

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01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:45,100
is, that is difficulty in

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01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:47,100
extreme explaining AI

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01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:49,100
decisions. So that occurs when

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01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:50,100
you have an AI decision making

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01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:52,100
process that is so complex

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01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,100
on the inside that it makes it

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01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,100
difficult for an individual

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01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:56,100
to explain how the model got

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01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:57,100
to the decision. So we can see

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01:05:57,100 --> 01:05:59,100
the data input and we can see

2077
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:00,100
the output,

2078
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,100
the decision that comes out

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01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:02,100
of the model,

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01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:04,100
but we can't see what happens

2081
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:05,100
in between and we can't explain

2082
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:07,401
it. So this lack

2083
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:09,100
of transparency can lead

2084
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,100
to a lack of public trust and

2085
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,100
of course, frustration. The

2086
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:13,100
last two potential

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01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:15,100
for overreliance on AI, risk

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01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,100
of reducing oversight. So AI

2089
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,100
of course relies on data. It

2090
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,100
can be prone

2091
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:23,100
to hallucinations. If we reduce

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01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,100
human oversight and we lose

2093
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:26,100
that human fact checking,

2094
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,100
we're setting ourselves up for

2095
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:29,100
more risk there and potentially

2096
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,100
harmful decisions. Of course, I

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01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:32,100
think everybody here has

2098
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,100
probably heard concerns

2099
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
about job displacement because

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01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:37,100
of AI. These are all valid and

2101
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:39,100
significant risks and things

2102
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,100
that we can't overlook as we

2103
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,601
consider the use of AI. Okay,

2104
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,100
so how are cities using AI? So

2105
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,100
I want

2106
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:50,100
to provide a few examples here

2107
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,100
of the different ways that

2108
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:54,100
cities are using AI. These are

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01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:56,100
just a way for us to kind

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01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:58,100
of get a feel for the landscape

2111
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:00,100
here. I'm not advocating

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01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:01,100
for any of these tools,

2113
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:02,100
but just a way for us to

2114
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:03,100
consider how some cities are

2115
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:04,100
using them. So

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01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:05,100
under the umbrella

2117
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:06,100
of public safety,

2118
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:07,100
some cities are using AI

2119
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:08,100
to analyze crime reports,

2120
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:09,100
identify those patterns and

2121
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,100
look at those patterns

2122
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
to focus crime prevention

2123
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,100
in their city. Other cities are

2124
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:16,100
using AI for emergency response

2125
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,100
optimization, using things

2126
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:20,100
like drones to assist

2127
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,100
in search and rescue missions

2128
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:23,100
in order to speed up and

2129
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,100
prioritize emergency response.

2130
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:28,100
In the public works arena,

2131
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:29,100
we're seeing AI tools being

2132
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:30,100
used

2133
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:32,100
to plan trash pickup routes, to

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01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:34,100
provide the shortest and most

2135
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:35,100
time time efficient routes. So

2136
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,100
saving you gas,

2137
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:38,100
saving you staff time. And then

2138
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:40,100
there are also tools like smart

2139
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:41,100
street lighting that dims

2140
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:43,100
lighting when no one is around

2141
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:44,100
to save energy and brightens up

2142
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:47,100
when pedestrians or cars pass

2143
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:50,100
by. So then to monitor

2144
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,100
for problems

2145
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:57,100
before they become an

2146
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,100
emergency.

2147
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:00,100
For resident services,

2148
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,100
we're seeing many communities,

2149
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,100
as I mentioned earlier,

2150
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
starting to use AI chatbots

2151
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,100
to provide quick answers

2152
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:07,100
to common questions

2153
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:09,100
in multiple languages. We're

2154
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:10,100
also seeing those AI

2155
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,100
translation and transcription

2156
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:13,100
tools which can improve meeting

2157
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:15,401
accessibility as well. And

2158
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:17,100
finally listed on here,

2159
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,100
some cities are using AI tools

2160
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,100
to process and improve permits

2161
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,100
as well. So these are just some

2162
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:23,100
of the use cases. I'm sure that

2163
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,100
I've just scratched the surface

2164
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
here. And there's probably a

2165
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,401
lot more moving forward

2166
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:31,100
with AI. So let's take a quick

2167
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:33,100
look at what guidance exists,

2168
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:34,100
what resources are available

2169
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:36,100
for Hyatt School and what best

2170
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
practices that we should

2171
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:38,100
consider as we look towards

2172
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:39,100
developing some guidelines

2173
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:42,100
for our city. So starting

2174
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:43,100
at the Federal level, in

2175
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:45,100
October 2023, President Biden

2176
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,100
issued an Executive Order of

2177
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,100
Safe, Secure and Trustworthy

2178
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:50,100
Development and Use of AI.

2179
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,100
That order directed agencies to

2180
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:54,100
create policies addressing AI

2181
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,100
risks and opportunities.

2182
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:58,100
However, in the flurry of

2183
01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:59,100
executive orders that we've

2184
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:00,100
seen over the last month,

2185
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,100
President Trump revoked that

2186
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,100
executive order from 2023 and

2187
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
rescinded all policies

2188
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:06,100
developed under it. So really

2189
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,100
rolling back some would have

2190
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:09,100
been some established

2191
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:10,100
guidelines and safeguards that

2192
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,100
were in place. This 2025

2193
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:13,100
executive order directs federal

2194
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:14,100
agencies

2195
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:15,100
to develop an artificial

2196
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:17,100
Intelligence action plan

2197
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:19,100
within 180 days. That 2025

2198
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,100
order seems

2199
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:23,100
to be a little bit more focused

2200
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:25,100
on speed, speed and removing

2201
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:27,100
barriers and less focused on

2202
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,100
establishing oversight

2203
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
mechanism. So that's what's

2204
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,100
happening right now

2205
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,100
at the federal level.

2206
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:34,100
On the state level, I have

2207
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,100
to apologize for doing

2208
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,100
Maryland wrong here. I

2209
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:38,100
incorrectly stated that there

2210
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,100
is no state guidance and that's

2211
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,100
just not true. So I will

2212
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,100
quickly summarize what's going

2213
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:44,100
on at the state level and when

2214
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:45,100
we post this presentation

2215
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:46,100
on the website, I can

2216
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:48,100
definitely update that info.

2217
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,100
So in 2024, January

2218
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:51,100
of last year, Governor Moore

2219
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:52,100
signed an executive order

2220
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,100
providing guiding principles

2221
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:54,100
for AI use. Those principles

2222
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,100
include fairness, equity,

2223
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,100
innovation,

2224
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,100
security and transparency.

2225
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:01,100
That order also established an

2226
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
AI sub cabinet

2227
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:04,100
to develop an AI roadmap

2228
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:06,100
for the state. This roadmap was

2229
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:09,100
published just last month in

2230
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:10,100
January and has been submitted

2231
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:12,100
to the General Assembly. Some

2232
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,100
key parts of Maryland's

2233
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:15,100
strategy include ensuring that

2234
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:16,100
state has good data,

2235
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:18,100
foundations,

2236
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:19,100
supporting state agencies in

2237
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:21,100
their experimentation and

2238
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:22,100
possible adoption

2239
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
of AI technologies, and

2240
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,100
significantly training the

2241
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:27,100
state workforce to understand

2242
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:29,401
AI risks and opportunities

2243
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:31,100
beyond the federal and the

2244
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:33,100
state guidance. Looking

2245
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:34,100
at what guidance is out there

2246
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:35,100
for local government, there are

2247
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,100
many professional organizations

2248
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,100
such as ICMA and NLC that are

2249
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:40,100
stepping up

2250
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:41,100
to also provide access

2251
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:43,100
to trainings and best practices

2252
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,100
for local governments. There

2253
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:46,100
are also some cities that have

2254
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:48,100
been at this for a while. So

2255
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,100
we've been able

2256
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:50,100
to benchmark and look

2257
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,100
at other cities like New

2258
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,100
York, Boston, San Jose,

2259
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,100
for example,

2260
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:55,100
who have really good AI

2261
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:58,100
policies in place right now.

2262
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:01,100
Taking us back

2263
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:02,100
for just a minute to that city

2264
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:03,100
managers conference I mentioned

2265
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:04,100
that Traci and I attended last

2266
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:06,100
year. One

2267
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
of the keynote speakers

2268
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
at the conference was

2269
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,100
from the Gov AI Coalition.

2270
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:12,100
The Gov AI Coalition was

2271
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:13,100
started by the City of San

2272
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:15,100
Jose in 2023 with the goal

2273
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,100
of creating a network

2274
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:18,100
of local government officials

2275
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:19,100
for the purpose

2276
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:20,100
of sharing knowledge, best

2277
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,100
practices,

2278
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:23,100
policies and use cases

2279
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
for AI and local government.

2280
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:26,100
We just joined this coalition

2281
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:27,100
just the other week and our

2282
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,100
membership gives us access

2283
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:30,100
to all of those resources as

2284
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:32,100
well as a seat on the many

2285
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:33,100
committees and work groups that

2286
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
they have exploring the

2287
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:35,100
responsibilities

2288
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:37,100
of AI and public sector. It's

2289
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:38,100
pretty exciting. I think this

2290
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,100
is going

2291
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:40,100
to be a great resource

2292
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:42,100
for the city and as a bonus,

2293
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,100
it is also a free resource

2294
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,100
for us. So that is fantastic.

2295
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:48,601
In the time that I've been

2296
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:51,100
researching AI, a number of

2297
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:53,100
best practices have come up

2298
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,100
again and again. Just looking

2299
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:56,100
as we benchmark and we look at

2300
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:57,100
what other communities we've

2301
01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:59,100
seen similar best practices

2302
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:00,100
that keep coming up. So I just

2303
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:01,100
want to take a few minutes as

2304
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:03,100
we consider what this could

2305
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:04,100
look like in Heightsville

2306
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
to take a look

2307
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:07,100
at what best practices we see

2308
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:09,100
on each one. So adopting a

2309
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,100
citywide AI policy or

2310
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:12,100
guidelines, so making sure that

2311
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,100
the city establishes clear

2312
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:15,100
guidelines encourage that

2313
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:17,100
innovation and efficiency while

2314
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,100
still mitigating those

2315
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:20,100
significant risks. I think it's

2316
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:22,100
really important that we've

2317
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:23,100
seen that the policy has to be

2318
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:25,100
flexible because things are

2319
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:27,100
changing so quickly so it can

2320
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,100
be regularly updated

2321
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,100
to keep pace

2322
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,100
with the advancements

2323
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:32,100
in this area. Protecting

2324
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:33,100
personal data so I mentioned

2325
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:34,100
that earlier, some cities are

2326
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,100
prohibiting the use of personal

2327
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,100
identifying information. Any

2328
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:39,100
generative AI prompt human

2329
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:43,100
in the loop. So this goes back

2330
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:45,100
to making sure that you have

2331
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:48,100
all content that is generated

2332
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,100
by AI reviewed by a human. So a

2333
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:51,100
human doing that fact check and

2334
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:52,100
review

2335
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:54,100
of the content generated. So

2336
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:55,100
that is really treating the

2337
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100
content that AI is generating

2338
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,100
as a draft and making sure that

2339
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,100
as the person who's generating

2340
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,100
that content, you as the person

2341
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:04,100
are always responsible

2342
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,100
for that final product.

2343
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,100
Promoting public transparency

2344
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,100
so making sure that city

2345
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:12,100
policies or guidelines are

2346
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,100
published

2347
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,100
on the city websites,

2348
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:16,100
disclosing how AI tools are

2349
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:17,100
being used by the city,

2350
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:19,100
requiring disclosure

2351
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:20,100
of AI use. So some cities are

2352
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:21,100
requiring that so that you

2353
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:23,100
provide citations if you've had

2354
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:25,100
AI assist you

2355
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:28,100
in creating work. And then this

2356
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,100
last one,

2357
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:30,100
which I thought was really

2358
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:31,100
interesting, was reviewing

2359
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:33,100
contract and vendor use

2360
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:34,100
of AI, because I don't think

2361
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:35,100
that's something that we've

2362
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,100
really been thinking much

2363
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:39,100
about here. So, you know,

2364
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,100
it's not just the city's use

2365
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,100
of AI, but all of the contracts

2366
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:44,100
and vendors that we work with

2367
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,100
could potentially be using AI.

2368
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:48,100
And so I think it's important

2369
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,100
for us

2370
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:51,100
to take a look and what we see

2371
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:52,100
in the cities that have adopted

2372
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100
these factors. Best practices,

2373
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,100
take a look at what their

2374
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:58,100
vendors policies are regarding

2375
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,100
AI and potentially including

2376
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:01,100
language in your contracts

2377
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:04,100
with vendors to address AI. We

2378
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,100
got a few more to go

2379
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:07,100
through here. Training

2380
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,100
employees is obviously really

2381
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:10,100
important. It's incredibly

2382
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,100
important,

2383
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,100
especially now that this is new

2384
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
for everybody. So making sure

2385
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:15,100
that everybody has basic AI

2386
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,100
literacy, understands data

2387
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,401
security, understands the bis,

2388
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:22,100
the benefits and the risks

2389
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:25,100
of AI starting small. So we've

2390
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:27,100
seen this in several

2391
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,100
jurisdictions where as they're

2392
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,100
kind of dipping their toe

2393
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:32,100
in this area, they're piloting

2394
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:33,100
low risk AI applications first

2395
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:35,100
before scaling up, focusing

2396
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,100
on data quality. So bad data

2397
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
in, bad data out. So ensuring

2398
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:40,100
that data used

2399
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:41,100
with AI is accurate,

2400
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,100
unbiased and comprehensive,

2401
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,100
promoting equity and inclusion.

2402
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:46,100
So

2403
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:47,100
in cities we see a best

2404
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:48,100
practice

2405
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:49,100
of incorporating equity review

2406
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
into the process and evaluation

2407
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:52,401
of AI systems. So

2408
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:55,100
to address any potential issues

2409
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:57,100
of bias and addressing and

2410
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:58,100
promoting our core values

2411
01:14:58,100 --> 01:14:59,100
of diversity,

2412
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:01,100
equity and inclusion. Engaging

2413
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
stakeholders, so leaning in

2414
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
on experts

2415
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,100
from other jurisdictions. This

2416
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:06,100
is where I think Gov AI

2417
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
coalition is going

2418
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:08,100
to be really valuable for us

2419
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:10,100
and making sure that we involve

2420
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:11,100
residents as well as employees

2421
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,100
and council members in both

2422
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
plans and implementation. So

2423
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,100
this is one of those steps,

2424
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:16,100
just actually talking

2425
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:19,100
with you guys about AI and then

2426
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:20,100
establishing feedback loops,

2427
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:21,100
so scheduling regular

2428
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,100
evaluations, adjustments

2429
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,100
to AI guidelines and

2430
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,100
adjustments

2431
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,100
to systems as well. So those

2432
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:28,100
are all great best practices

2433
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:30,100
that we've seen

2434
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:32,100
in other jurisdictions. Okay,

2435
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
so we've talked

2436
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,100
about benefits, we've talked

2437
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,100
about risks, we talked

2438
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:37,100
about guidance and resources.

2439
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
So now let's take a moment to

2440
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,100
just continue consider what a

2441
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:40,100
framework

2442
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,100
for implementing AI and Hyatt

2443
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:45,100
spoke could look like. So first

2444
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,100
off, starting with kind of

2445
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:47,100
like our mission and goals, I

2446
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:48,100
think it's pretty clear that we

2447
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:50,100
want to encourage AI tools that

2448
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:51,100
can deliver better, more

2449
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:53,100
efficient and equitable

2450
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,100
services to our residents. We

2451
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,401
know that in order

2452
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:59,100
to use AI we have to develop a

2453
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,100
strategy that aligns with the

2454
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,100
city's values and our goals and

2455
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,100
considers the needs and

2456
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
expectations of all

2457
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:07,100
of our stakeholders. And we

2458
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:09,100
know that in order

2459
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:11,100
to do this, we have

2460
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,100
to create a framework for the

2461
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,100
responsible use and ethical use

2462
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:15,100
of AI in order to mitigate all

2463
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:17,100
of those risks. So overall,

2464
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:19,100
the guiding principles mission

2465
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:21,100
for the use of AI in

2466
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:24,100
Hyattsville is that it really

2467
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:25,100
has to be centered

2468
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:27,100
on ethical, responsible,

2469
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:29,100
thoughtful and deliberate

2470
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,401
strategy. With that said,

2471
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,100
so proposed framework begins

2472
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,100
with the establishment

2473
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
of an internal IT committee.

2474
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,100
So this committee is actually

2475
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:43,100
something that we've been

2476
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:44,100
talking about

2477
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:45,100
for a while internally really

2478
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:47,100
in the context of our

2479
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:48,100
procurement policy and not AI

2480
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:50,100
specifically looking at that

2481
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,100
to review AI purchases.

2482
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:53,100
But we'd also like to be able

2483
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:55,100
to use this on our departmental

2484
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:56,100
committee because it is so

2485
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:57,100
important to hear from all

2486
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:59,100
of our departments,

2487
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,100
departments to meet regularly

2488
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:01,100
to develop guidelines for

2489
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:02,100
Hyattsville. We'd also

2490
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,100
like those committee members

2491
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:05,100
to participate in the gov AI

2492
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
committees and working groups,

2493
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:08,100
conduct needs assessments and

2494
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:09,100
really talking

2495
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:10,100
with our departments,

2496
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:11,100
the people that are working

2497
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:12,100
in our departments, to

2498
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:14,100
determine what departments and

2499
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,100
services that we have that

2500
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,100
could potentially benefit

2501
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:19,100
from AI tools, evaluate and

2502
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:22,100
recommend AI tools and monitor

2503
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:24,100
those pilot programs. So our

2504
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:25,100
hope is that we plan to have

2505
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,100
this commitment committee kick

2506
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:28,100
off

2507
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:29,100
within the next month or so.

2508
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,100
At the same time, we've got

2509
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:31,100
to build capacity in our staff

2510
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:33,100
by training them on AI. Last

2511
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,100
week, a few of us attended a

2512
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,100
virtual ICMA training

2513
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:37,100
on AI and we'll be looking

2514
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:38,100
for additional opportunities

2515
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,100
to train staff on that basic AI

2516
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:42,100
literacy as well as more

2517
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,100
technical training for those

2518
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:45,100
staff members who are more

2519
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,100
directly involved with AI. And

2520
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,100
that will just have

2521
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:50,100
to be an ongoing effort

2522
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,100
for us. Throughout this

2523
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:52,100
presentation I mentioned the

2524
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,100
importance

2525
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:55,100
of data a few times across.

2526
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:56,100
Quality of data is incredibly

2527
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:59,100
important when using AI tools.

2528
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,100
So the city recently issued an

2529
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:02,100
RFP for data assessment

2530
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:04,100
analysis. I want

2531
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,100
to be clear that the issuance

2532
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,100
of this AI, of this RFP

2533
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,100
actually wasn't directly

2534
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:12,601
related to AI. Where it came

2535
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:15,100
from was a 2024 council budget

2536
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:16,100
initiative submitted on behalf

2537
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:17,100
of the Race and Equity Task

2538
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:18,100
Force

2539
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:19,100
for a program data analyst

2540
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:21,100
with the goal of increasing

2541
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,100
data based decision making

2542
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:24,100
in the city. I listed it here

2543
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:26,100
on this roadmap

2544
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,100
for next steps. Just because

2545
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,100
the importance of data,

2546
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:30,100
with the respect

2547
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:32,100
for AI tools and the importance

2548
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
of us to really like refine our

2549
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,401
database decision making is,

2550
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,401
while not directly tied

2551
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:40,100
to AI, it is so important

2552
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:41,100
to that path

2553
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:43,100
for AI and having AI readiness.

2554
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:45,100
So if we're going

2555
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:46,100
to do anything with AI,

2556
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:47,100
it definitely ties

2557
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:48,100
to data and we need

2558
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:49,100
to have a good handle

2559
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,100
on our data. So that RFP was

2560
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:53,100
issued in January

2561
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:55,100
of this year. We just received

2562
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,100
all the submissions. There was

2563
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:57,100
a bid opening today and we

2564
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:00,100
anticipate an award for that

2565
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:05,100
in March. Another best practice

2566
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:06,100
that we've mentioned is that we

2567
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:08,100
want to use in Hyattsville is

2568
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,100
public transparency. So

2569
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:11,100
ensuring that the public has

2570
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:13,100
transparency into the city's AI

2571
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,100
guidance and the use

2572
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:15,100
of AI tools. So

2573
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:16,100
on this front, we plan

2574
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:18,100
to update our website

2575
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:19,100
with information

2576
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:21,100
on the city's use of AI, share

2577
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:22,100
the guidelines when they are

2578
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:23,100
drafted by the IT committee and

2579
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:24,100
provide a public listing of

2580
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:27,100
what AI tools the city is

2581
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:29,100
using. So I put a photo up

2582
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:31,100
on here. It's a great example I

2583
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:33,100
found of a website. It's

2584
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:35,100
Lebanon, New Hampshire. You

2585
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:37,100
can't see it too well

2586
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,100
on here. I do encourage you

2587
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:40,100
to check out their website

2588
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,100
because I think they're doing a

2589
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:43,100
good job. They very clearly

2590
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:44,100
identify the AI tool,

2591
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:46,100
what departments are using the

2592
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:47,100
tool, the purpose, the

2593
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,100
implementation data and their

2594
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,100
impact analysis of the tool.

2595
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:52,100
And when they have tools that

2596
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,100
they retire,

2597
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:56,100
are no longer using on there,

2598
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:58,100
they very clearly label that

2599
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:00,100
and kind of archive that. So

2600
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:02,100
there is a history on there as

2601
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:03,100
well. I just think it's a great

2602
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:05,100
model for us. In the spirit

2603
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:07,100
of starting small,

2604
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:08,100
which was one of those best

2605
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,100
practices that we had, we're

2606
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:12,100
also suggesting that we begin

2607
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:14,100
to pilot low risk AI tools this

2608
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:17,100
spring and summer. Tools that

2609
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:21,100
have limited scope, no impact

2610
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,100
on privacy, they're not using

2611
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:25,100
personal identifying

2612
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:27,100
information, they're easy

2613
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:29,100
for the public to understand

2614
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:30,100
what the use cases and what the

2615
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:31,100
benefits are. And these tools

2616
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:32,100
would not be involved

2617
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:33,100
in decision making. So that is

2618
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:34,100
what I mean when I'm talking

2619
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:37,100
low risk. So some tools that

2620
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:38,100
we're currently considering are

2621
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:40,401
AI powered language translation

2622
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:43,100
and transcription and AI

2623
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:45,100
meeting note takers. So I heard

2624
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:47,100
earlier there were a couple

2625
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:49,100
of questions regarding costs

2626
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:51,100
for these programs,

2627
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:52,100
and I'll just kind of lay

2628
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:54,100
out what I know about cost for

2629
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:56,100
these two particular ones right

2630
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:57,100
now. So the cost for AI

2631
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:58,100
language translation is

2632
01:20:58,100 --> 01:21:00,100
approximately $12,000 for 100

2633
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:03,100
hours. So what would that

2634
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:05,100
cover? That would cover about

2635
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,100
the 60ish hours that we spend

2636
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:08,100
in council meetings every year.

2637
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:10,100
If you can believe it's 60

2638
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:12,100
hours as well as community

2639
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:14,100
meetings and events. The nice

2640
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:15,100
thing about this particular

2641
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,100
tool is unused hours roll over

2642
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
to the following year if we

2643
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:20,100
decide to continue

2644
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:22,100
with the service. And then this

2645
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,100
service in particular is

2646
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100
actually potentially a

2647
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,100
replacement for our existing

2648
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:27,100
closed captioning services,

2649
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:29,100
which are approximately the

2650
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:32,100
same cost but do not provide

2651
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,100
the translation features or the

2652
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:35,100
captioning for community

2653
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:38,100
meetings and events. As far as

2654
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:39,100
costs go

2655
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:40,100
for AI meeting note takers,

2656
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:42,100
those can vary. I mean,

2657
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:44,100
to be honest,

2658
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:45,100
I haven't done much digging

2659
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,100
into this right now. I've seen

2660
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:48,100
ranges from $8 to $22 a month

2661
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,100
per user, just depending

2662
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,100
on the features. So that is

2663
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:51,100
something I think our AI

2664
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:52,100
committee

2665
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:54,100
to tackle and look into.

2666
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:55,100
There's definitely some work

2667
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:56,100
to be done here in terms of

2668
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,100
refining what these initial

2669
01:21:58,100 --> 01:21:59,100
lower risk AI programs look

2670
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:01,100
like as well as costs

2671
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:02,100
associated with them.

2672
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:04,100
But we hope

2673
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:05,100
to have some tools,

2674
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
an initial pilot in place

2675
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:08,100
by spring or summer this year.

2676
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:09,100
And of course you Know, a big

2677
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:11,100
part of a pilot is monitoring

2678
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,100
and evaluating what the results

2679
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:15,100
are and using that

2680
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:17,100
to inform us as we work

2681
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:18,100
on guidelines. So the last

2682
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:20,100
piece here as we kind of go

2683
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100
through this framework is

2684
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,100
drafting and bringing back

2685
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:24,100
forward to council and the

2686
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:25,100
public guidelines for the use

2687
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:28,100
of AI in Heightsville. So right

2688
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:29,100
now I anticipate that this

2689
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:30,100
would come back to council

2690
01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:32,100
in the fall or winter. Give the

2691
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:33,100
IT committee a little bit

2692
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:34,100
of time

2693
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,100
to get up and running, get some

2694
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:36,100
training and we have time

2695
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:38,100
to dig

2696
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:41,601
into the landscape as a team.

2697
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:43,100
Okay, so that was a lot

2698
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,100
of me talking

2699
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:46,100
at you. I just want to close

2700
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:47,100
with an acknowledgment that AI

2701
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:49,100
is going to continue

2702
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
to integrate in our daily lives

2703
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:53,100
whether we're ready

2704
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,100
for it or not. It's here. I

2705
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:57,100
think we'd like to see

2706
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:58,100
Heightsville take a proactive

2707
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:00,100
approach here so we can both

2708
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
benefit from the technology and

2709
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:03,100
actively mitigate risks as well

2710
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:04,100
as ensuring that our public is

2711
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:07,100
informed on this. So I

2712
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:08,100
definitely appreciate

2713
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:09,100
everybody's time tonight. I'm

2714
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:10,100
happy

2715
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:11,100
to answer any questions. Thank

2716
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:12,100
you.

2717
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,100
>>Thank you Ms. Reams,

2718
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,100
colleagues, questions,

2719
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:17,100
comments. Mr. Shagri.

2720
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:27,100
>>Thanks. You know we had a lot

2721
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:29,100
of comments

2722
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:32,100
on this and you know,

2723
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,100
several concerns raised related

2724
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:35,100
to cost and energy usage. I

2725
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:38,601
thought you know all of those

2726
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:42,100
comments that we heard are,

2727
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:44,100
were insightful. I,

2728
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:46,100
you know I haven't paid for any

2729
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:48,100
artificial intelligence

2730
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:51,100
application use. I find that a

2731
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,100
lot of the like Googling and

2732
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:54,100
various things that I do are

2733
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:55,100
now just kind

2734
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,100
of it's becoming integrated

2735
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:59,100
into it and I, you know from a

2736
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:00,100
city function where these

2737
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:02,100
applications come will probably

2738
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:03,100
be like you said,

2739
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:06,601
like note taking. I have been

2740
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:11,100
in Zoom meetings that have an

2741
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,100
AI note taker. They seem to

2742
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:15,100
work pretty good and I would be

2743
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:16,100
interested in kind

2744
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:18,100
of using that, that Gov

2745
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,100
platform to sort of advocate

2746
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:22,401
for smarter, less energy

2747
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:25,100
intensive AI technologies and

2748
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,100
applications. It seems like

2749
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:30,100
with the Deepseek app that's

2750
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:36,100
out right now that was built

2751
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:38,100
for 5 million and uses very

2752
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:40,100
little energy, that some of

2753
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:42,100
these systems are probably

2754
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:44,100
grossly over engineered and use

2755
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:46,100
up more resources than is

2756
01:24:46,100 --> 01:24:47,100
necessary. And that is a

2757
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:49,100
problem right now. That's a

2758
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:50,100
problem in Maryland

2759
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,100
with people's energy bills.

2760
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:54,100
That's a problem

2761
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:57,100
with you know, really spiking

2762
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,401
demand right now related

2763
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:03,100
to a lot of artificial

2764
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:05,100
intelligence and data center

2765
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,100
applications and how we sort

2766
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:07,100
of advocate for more

2767
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:08,100
responsible technology. There

2768
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,100
is something I'm interested in

2769
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:11,100
but you know, on a, on a simple

2770
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:15,201
and also cost I think you know,

2771
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,100
we don't want to get

2772
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:20,100
over committed in terms

2773
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:23,100
of what the expense for, for

2774
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:24,100
some things might be. I know

2775
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,100
there isn't any proposals

2776
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:26,100
on the table now,

2777
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:27,100
just a general thing

2778
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:30,100
to be mindful of. In general,

2779
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:31,100
if it's something that is kind

2780
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
of drudgery and kind of

2781
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:34,100
monotonous work that we don't

2782
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:36,100
want to have a human creative

2783
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:38,100
component to. I'm thinking

2784
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,100
of minutes,

2785
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:42,401
possibly translation. You know,

2786
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:45,401
I'm thinking about like

2787
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:47,100
searching. I frequently do

2788
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:48,100
this. I go

2789
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:49,100
to our interface and I search

2790
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:52,100
through old minutes. And that

2791
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:53,100
process is kind of clunky. You

2792
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:54,100
know, you miss some stuff if

2793
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:56,100
your search isn't just right

2794
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:58,100
things to improve these

2795
01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:01,100
services and free up people's

2796
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:05,100
time to do more engaging and

2797
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:06,100
interesting things. I'm

2798
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:07,100
generally supportive of that.

2799
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:08,100
So that's it

2800
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:09,100
for me.

2801
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:11,401
>>Thank you. Ms. Dry.

2802
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:15,100
>>Yes, I just wanted

2803
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:17,100
to add that currently the

2804
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:18,100
Police and Public Safety

2805
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:21,100
Committee is looking at AI

2806
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,100
policy as it concerns policing

2807
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:26,100
technology because it's

2808
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,100
something that, you know, I

2809
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:33,100
think we really want public

2810
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:39,100
feedback on. You know,

2811
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,100
right now it, it's something

2812
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:41,100
that, you know,

2813
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:42,100
we're not using

2814
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:43,100
like say the generative AI for,

2815
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:44,100
but there is a lot out there.

2816
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:45,100
So I think we're trying

2817
01:26:45,100 --> 01:26:46,100
to look.

2818
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,100
>>At a sort of like holistic

2819
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:48,100
policy.

2820
01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:49,100
>>And obviously as we're

2821
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:51,100
looking at the stop sign

2822
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:52,100
cameras and things like that,

2823
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:54,100
there's a lot

2824
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:56,100
of AI already built

2825
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,401
into those technologies. So,

2826
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,100
you know, if I would.

2827
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:03,100
>>Even though there's going to

2828
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,100
be an.

2829
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:06,100
>>Internal committee, I would

2830
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,100
really like

2831
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:09,100
to see that committee sort of

2832
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:10,100
like either branch out

2833
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:13,100
into some of the committees,

2834
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:15,100
the committees that we already

2835
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:16,100
have, like the Police and

2836
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:17,100
Public Safety Committee or

2837
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:19,100
maybe the Race and Equity

2838
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:20,100
Task Force or code compliance,

2839
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:23,601
to take some of these issues

2840
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:26,401
to our engaged residents

2841
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:30,100
to really get a handle

2842
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:31,100
on what the, you know,

2843
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:32,100
where the residents are.

2844
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:34,100
>>So.

2845
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:37,100
>>That, yeah, that we get a

2846
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:39,100
really comprehensive policy.

2847
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:43,100
>>I think that's a great idea.

2848
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:46,100
>>Thank you. Mr. Mr. Edmond,

2849
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:49,100
thank you. A couple questions

2850
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,100
and forgive me if I missed it,

2851
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:53,100
I was trying to track along

2852
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:55,100
with what, Ms. Reams, you.

2853
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
>>Were sharing along with what

2854
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:58,100
I've seen.

2855
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,100
>>Our residents saying and

2856
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,100
trying

2857
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:03,100
to jive all that together

2858
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:04,100
for the committee. Did you say

2859
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:06,100
who will be on.

2860
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:08,100
>>It as far as not necessarily

2861
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:09,100
names but position wise. Wise.

2862
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:12,100
Like is it always going

2863
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,100
to have a seat for the IT

2864
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:15,100
manager and.

2865
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:17,100
>>Is it going to be that kind

2866
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,100
of setup or is that still being

2867
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:19,100
worked out?

2868
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,100
>>Yeah, I mean, I,

2869
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:21,100
of course it would have a seat

2870
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:22,100
for the IT manager. I mean, our

2871
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:24,100
hope is that we would have

2872
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:25,100
representation from all

2873
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:27,100
of the departments. You know,

2874
01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:28,100
I think we're still kind

2875
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:29,100
of figuring out, I think, you

2876
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:30,100
know, there's a lot of just

2877
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:32,100
like there's interest

2878
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:33,100
in the public. I feel

2879
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:34,100
like there is interest

2880
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:36,100
in staff in this too,

2881
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:37,100
at all levels of staff. So I

2882
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:38,100
think we still got

2883
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:39,100
to figure that

2884
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:40,100
out who are the right people

2885
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:41,100
to get on it. Certainly it,

2886
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,100
that's a no brainer. But also

2887
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,100
making sure that we have all

2888
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,100
the departments represented.

2889
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,100
>>Okay.

2890
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,100
>>And then the expenditure

2891
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:52,100
around the data collection or I

2892
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:53,100
guess I don't want

2893
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:54,100
to misrepresent it,

2894
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:56,100
but the data rfp.

2895
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:59,100
>>That'S out when that comes

2896
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:00,100
time to make that decision and

2897
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:02,100
award it and pay. Was that

2898
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:04,100
money already in the budget

2899
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:05,100
this year?

2900
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
>>Yeah, that's a great

2901
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:08,100
question. So that initiative,

2902
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:10,100
as I mentioned,

2903
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:11,100
it was a council initiative.

2904
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:12,100
It was added I think sort of

2905
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
at the tail end

2906
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,100
of the budget last year. And so

2907
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,100
the allocated funds to that,

2908
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:18,401
it's $50,000. That was the

2909
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:21,100
budget for that. We have

2910
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:23,100
received a number

2911
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:25,100
of proposals. I, you know, the

2912
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:26,100
evaluation team hasn't even had

2913
01:29:26,100 --> 01:29:27,100
a chance

2914
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,100
to open them up and look

2915
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
at them yet.

2916
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:31,100
But I think there's something

2917
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100
like 18 or 19 proposals that

2918
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:33,100
we've received. And you know,

2919
01:29:33,100 --> 01:29:35,100
the costs could range anywhere

2920
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,100
in between that budget. So we

2921
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:39,100
will do our typical thing that

2922
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:40,100
we do with all the RFPs. We

2923
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:41,100
will evaluate them and then

2924
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:42,100
come back

2925
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:43,100
with a recommendation

2926
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:45,100
for award.

2927
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:46,100
But is a budgeted cost at this

2928
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:47,100
moment.

2929
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:48,100
>>Okay.

2930
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:49,100
>>And if I could add one point

2931
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,100
of clarification,

2932
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:52,100
they did do the bid opening

2933
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:54,100
this morning, but they're

2934
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:56,100
in the evaluation process.

2935
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:58,100
They'll be beginning that the,

2936
01:29:58,100 --> 01:30:00,100
the data analyst was a proposal

2937
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:01,100
and I believe Laura said this

2938
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:02,100
in her presentation,

2939
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:05,100
but I'll just clarify. Race and

2940
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:06,100
Equity committee came forward

2941
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:08,100
and essentially said that they

2942
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:10,100
needed some assistance because

2943
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:12,100
part of what that that plan,

2944
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,100
our Race and equity plan is,

2945
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:16,100
is to look at the data

2946
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:18,100
from several areas, housing,

2947
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:19,100
community policing,

2948
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:21,100
et cetera. And so they needed a

2949
01:30:21,100 --> 01:30:23,100
data analyst and they requested

2950
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:24,100
that of this body and you all

2951
01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:25,100
approved it. So that's where

2952
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,100
that came from.

2953
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:30,100
>>And I just. Yes, thank you

2954
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:32,000
for that refresh.

2955
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,100
>>I remember Mr. Hava and I

2956
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:34,100
talking

2957
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:36,100
about that towards the tail end

2958
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:38,100
of that meeting. I'm glad it's

2959
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:40,100
coming back. And I remember,

2960
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:42,100
I guess thinking about our

2961
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:43,100
resident and community concerns

2962
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:45,100
around the budget. We always

2963
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:46,100
said, well, how do we make

2964
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:47,100
decisions if we don't have a

2965
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:48,100
good handle

2966
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,100
on data?

2967
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:51,100
>>So I guess to reiterate

2968
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:52,100
to those.

2969
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:53,100
>>Listening, this is a first

2970
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,100
step, a.

2971
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:56,100
>>Key step and to get into more

2972
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,100
data informed decision making

2973
01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:59,401
by your officials and

2974
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:04,100
policymakers. Thank you, Mr.

2975
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:06,100
Redmond. Colleagues, are there

2976
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:07,100
any other questions? There we

2977
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:09,100
go. Mr. Salem, thank you.

2978
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:11,100
>>The first thing I want

2979
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:15,100
to say is thank you to Deputy

2980
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:16,100
City Administrator almost a

2981
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:18,100
Deputy Cliff, Deputy City

2982
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:20,401
Administrator Laura Reams. I

2983
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:24,100
know that this is not your

2984
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:26,100
field, but I also know that

2985
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:28,100
when you set your mind

2986
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:30,100
to something and you wrap your,

2987
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:31,100
your hands and your brain

2988
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:33,100
around it, that we have

2989
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:34,100
outstanding results. Always

2990
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:35,100
thinking

2991
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,100
of non citizens voting,

2992
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:38,100
thinking of, you know,

2993
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:39,100
a number of the initiatives

2994
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,100
that you voted on and I'm glad

2995
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:42,100
that this is one that's

2996
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,100
in your portfolio. First thing

2997
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:47,100
is that I will remind the

2998
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:49,100
community Hyattsville was

2999
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:51,100
officially incorporated in

3000
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:54,100
1886. That means our city is

3001
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:57,601
older than the the car. Ford

3002
01:31:58,100 --> 01:32:00,100
didn't start mass producing

3003
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,401
vehicles until 1913. And I'm

3004
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:04,100
sure that if we dug

3005
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:05,100
into records, we had

3006
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:06,100
to come up

3007
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:08,100
with a vehicle use policy.

3008
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:09,100
Computers were not broadly

3009
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:11,100
accepted until 1953. So I'm

3010
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
sure if we dug

3011
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:13,100
in the records, Hyattisville

3012
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:14,100
had to come up with a computer

3013
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:16,100
usage policy and the Internet

3014
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,100
wasn't broadly accepted until

3015
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:19,100
1991. And I'm sure that if we

3016
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,100
dug in our records, we have

3017
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:22,100
to come up with an Internet

3018
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:23,100
usage policy. And here we are

3019
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:26,100
roughly 40 years later. And I

3020
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,100
think that it's,

3021
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:31,100
I think that it's a no brainer.

3022
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:34,100
We need an AI usage policy. So

3023
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,100
this committee is necessary.

3024
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:38,100
Even if we didn't need a usage

3025
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:40,100
policy

3026
01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:42,100
within the city and staff,

3027
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:44,100
which I don't think anyone

3028
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:46,100
could doubt that any reasonable

3029
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:48,100
person could, we would still

3030
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:50,100
need an AI procurement policy.

3031
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:52,100
Because even if we decided

3032
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,100
to stick our heads in the sand

3033
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,100
like it sounds

3034
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:55,100
like some people want to do,

3035
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,100
the rest

3036
01:32:57,100 --> 01:32:58,100
of the world isn't doing that.

3037
01:32:58,100 --> 01:33:01,601
And every tool that we use,

3038
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,100
as Director RAM has mentioned,

3039
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,100
every tool that we use,

3040
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:07,100
they're all rolling out their

3041
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:08,100
AI features and we would still

3042
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,100
need a policy on which

3043
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:11,100
of those tools we would use and

3044
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:13,100
under what circumstances we'd

3045
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:16,601
be permitted to use them and

3046
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:19,100
how we would use them. So I

3047
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,100
think, you know, the idea that

3048
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,100
we would wouldn't move forward

3049
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:23,100
in this arena is just, I don't

3050
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:25,100
know, it's beyond me.

3051
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:26,100
But we have to,

3052
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:27,100
I'm glad that we have,

3053
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,100
I think we have the right

3054
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,100
person to do it and I think

3055
01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:34,100
that it should be a IT

3056
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:36,100
committee as it's described,

3057
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:39,100
not just an AI committee,

3058
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:40,100
because I think we have

3059
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:42,100
to be forward looking. If we

3060
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:44,100
see how rapidly technology has

3061
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:46,100
changed, even in just the 10

3062
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:47,100
years that I've been

3063
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:49,100
on council, having an IT

3064
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:50,100
committee is something that

3065
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,100
I've always thought that we

3066
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:53,100
should have. So it's so that we

3067
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:54,100
can set, you know,

3068
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:55,100
get advisement

3069
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:56,100
from the many professionals

3070
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:57,100
in our community who work

3071
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:58,100
in IT on setting and adopting

3072
01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:00,100
appropriate technology

3073
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:03,100
policies, period, in the city

3074
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:04,100
of high school, but also

3075
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:05,100
to manage the adoption

3076
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:07,100
of several

3077
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,100
of the changes that's going on.

3078
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:11,100
So I am pretty content with

3079
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:13,100
this presentation. I applaud

3080
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,100
the effort. I never thought

3081
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:16,100
that I would sit through a

3082
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:17,100
presentation where we were

3083
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:18,100
talking

3084
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:19,100
about language model and all

3085
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:20,100
of the, the technical terms

3086
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,100
that you use. And I'm glad that

3087
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,100
you braved your way

3088
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:24,100
through it. And, yeah, I'm

3089
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:25,100
happy and I'm looking forward

3090
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:27,100
to supporting this.

3091
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:28,100
>>Thank you, Council

3092
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:30,100
President Solomon.

3093
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,100
>>Are there any other questions

3094
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,100
or comments, Mr. Mr. Harbor?

3095
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:36,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And

3096
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,401
thank you, Deputy City

3097
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,100
Administrator Reims,

3098
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,100
for the presentation. I think,

3099
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:44,100
as other council members have

3100
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:46,100
stated before me,

3101
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:50,100
I look forward to seeing the

3102
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:52,100
city embrace this new frontier.

3103
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:55,100
At the same time, I think it's

3104
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:57,401
important that we proceed

3105
01:34:58,100 --> 01:34:59,100
with caution. So making sure

3106
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:00,100
that that committee is

3107
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:02,100
in place,

3108
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:03,100
that that committee can come up

3109
01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:05,100
with some recommendation

3110
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
in terms

3111
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:08,100
of if and when we are going to

3112
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,100
adopt some specific AI tools,

3113
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:12,100
what criteria should we be

3114
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:14,100
looking at, knowing exactly how

3115
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:16,401
they handle the data

3116
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:18,100
after work. So those are the

3117
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:20,100
things that I want us to kind

3118
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:22,100
of like develop

3119
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:24,100
before we put any specific tool

3120
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:27,100
in place. So having our

3121
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,401
selection criteria and ethical

3122
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,100
on that line

3123
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:34,100
for how we want things to go,

3124
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:35,100
I think that's what I have

3125
01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:36,100
to say. Thank you.

3126
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:37,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Harper. Any

3127
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:38,100
other question,

3128
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,100
comments or questions

3129
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:41,100
by anybody? Ms. Douglas?

3130
01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:43,100
>>Yeah, I just, I just wanted

3131
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:44,100
to make one quick point. We do

3132
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:46,100
already have the IT committee

3133
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:48,100
established, but as Laura said,

3134
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,401
we, we are trying

3135
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:52,100
to morph that into some

3136
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:53,100
additional departments. So,

3137
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:55,100
for instance, at this point,

3138
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:57,401
Finance, Finance, the police,

3139
01:35:58,100 --> 01:36:00,100
DPW, and one person from

3140
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,100
administration who are very

3141
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:02,100
knowledgeable

3142
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:04,100
in technology are

3143
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
on that committee. So we have

3144
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:07,100
reps from each

3145
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:08,100
of those departments.

3146
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:09,100
But as we now add AI

3147
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,100
into this, and now Laura's

3148
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:12,100
become a part

3149
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
of this committee, it will

3150
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:14,100
morph a little bit and have a

3151
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:15,100
few more members. So I do want

3152
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:16,100
to just make sure. We've had

3153
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:17,100
the committee probably for

3154
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:19,100
about eight months. So I just

3155
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:21,100
wanted to make, make that clear

3156
01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:22,100
that this committee will,

3157
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:24,100
will now pick up AI.

3158
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:27,100
>>Thank you, Ms. Douglas, and

3159
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:28,100
thank you, Ms. Re,

3160
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:30,401
for the presentation. Okay,

3161
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
we're going to move on now

3162
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:35,100
to appointments. Vice

3163
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:37,100
President Wozczak, are you

3164
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:39,100
here?

3165
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:45,100
>>Get off guard there. One

3166
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:47,100
moment, please.

3167
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:54,100
>>Open to appointments. If you

3168
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:56,401
want to do consent.

3169
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:00,100
>>Do you have it? Ms. Marse?

3170
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:01,100
>>Working on it.

3171
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:03,100
>>It crashed.

3172
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:04,100
>>I can transfer it to Mr.

3173
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:05,100
Solomon if you'd like.

3174
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:07,100
>>Yes, please.

3175
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,100
>>Mr. Solomon.

3176
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:12,100
>>Appointment 7A appointments

3177
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:13,100
to CO.

3178
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:14,100
>>Wait one second. Can you turn

3179
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:17,100
your mic up a bit?

3180
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:20,100
>>I can. I can try to talk

3181
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:22,100
louder. I don't think I can

3182
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:23,100
turn my mic.

3183
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:24,100
>>Okay. Okay.

3184
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
>>All right. 7A. Appointments

3185
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:26,100
to the CO Compliance Advisory

3186
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:27,100
Committee. I move that the

3187
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:29,100
mayor council approve the

3188
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:30,100
reappointment of Ian fay

3189
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:31,100
to the CO Compliance Advisory

3190
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:33,100
Committee for a term

3191
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:34,100
of two years ending on

3192
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:36,100
February 18, 2027. 7b.

3193
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:40,100
Appointment to high school

3194
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:41,100
environment committee. I move

3195
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:43,100
that the mayor Council approve

3196
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:44,100
the appointment of Ryan Newman

3197
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:46,100
to the highest bill

3198
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,100
Environment committee

3199
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
for A term

3200
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,100
of two years ending February

3201
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:50,100
18, 2027. 7c. Appointment

3202
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:51,100
to heights Phil. Health,

3203
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:52,100
Wellness and Recreation

3204
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:53,100
Advisory Committee. I move that

3205
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:55,100
the mayor council approve the

3206
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:57,100
reapportment of Britney Miller

3207
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:58,100
to Height Phil. Health,

3208
01:37:58,100 --> 01:37:59,100
Wellness and Recreation

3209
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:00,100
Advisory Committee for a term

3210
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:02,100
of two years ending February

3211
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,100
18, 2027.

3212
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:07,100
>>I said second. I'm sorry,

3213
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:10,100
who was that? Thank you. It's

3214
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:11,100
been moved. And. And seconded.

3215
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:14,601
All in favor? Any opposed? Any

3216
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:19,100
abstentions?

3217
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
>>Thank you.

3218
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:22,100
>>The ayes have it, Mr.

3219
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:24,100
Solomon. Consent agenda

3220
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,100
consent.

3221
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,100
>>8 A Schedule A budget work

3222
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:29,100
session for February 26, 2025.

3223
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:30,100
A move that the mayor council

3224
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:31,100
schedule an

3225
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:32,100
in person budget work session

3226
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:34,100
for February 26, 2025 at 7pm

3227
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:36,100
to be held at the City

3228
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:38,401
Municipal Building. 8B. Zoning

3229
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:40,100
variance request V8. 20V8924

3230
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:42,100
4100 Hamilton street in

3231
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:46,100
Hyattsville. I move the city

3232
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:48,100
council authorize the mayor

3233
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:49,100
to send a letter of support

3234
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:51,100
to the board of Zoning Appeals

3235
01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:53,100
for the subject property at

3236
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:54,100
4100 Hamilton Street,

3237
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:55,100
Highsville v. 80 924. The

3238
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:56,100
purpose

3239
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,100
of the zoning variance is

3240
01:38:58,100 --> 01:39:00,100
to request is to request it

3241
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:03,601
to be. Is to request is

3242
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:07,100
to validate existing. The

3243
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:08,100
purpose of the zoning variance

3244
01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:11,100
request is to validate existing

3245
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:12,100
conditions. A lot width at the

3246
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
building line side street yard

3247
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:15,100
depth and waiver of accessory

3248
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:16,100
building location requirements

3249
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:18,100
enable the construction

3250
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:20,100
of a third floor addition on an

3251
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:21,100
existing three story single

3252
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:23,100
family dwelling. Sorry

3253
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:24,100
about that 1.8C. Disbursement

3254
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:26,100
of FY25 Thrive Grant Awards. I

3255
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,100
moved that the mayor council

3256
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:29,100
authorized expenditure of

3257
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,100
$8,993 to support the grant

3258
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,100
proposals recommended

3259
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:34,100
from the Hyatville Health,

3260
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:36,100
Wellness and Recreation

3261
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:37,100
Advisory Committee and listed

3262
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:39,100
in the attached memo

3263
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:42,100
for dissemination of the FY25

3264
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:46,100
Thrive grants. That is all.

3265
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,100
>>Second.

3266
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:48,100
>>I'm sorry, who was the

3267
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:49,100
second? Okay, thank you. It's

3268
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:50,100
been moved and seconded. All in

3269
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:52,100
favor?

3270
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:54,100
>>Aye.

3271
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:56,100
>>Any opposed? Abstentions.

3272
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
Okay. Seeing none. Action

3273
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:02,100
items, Mr. Solomon.

3274
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:04,100
>>Action items. Not a roadway

3275
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:06,100
transfer. MD 208 Hamilton

3276
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:09,100
Street. I move that the mayor

3277
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:12,100
and council authorize the city

3278
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:13,100
administrator to execute the

3279
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:14,100
roadway transfer agreement

3280
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,100
of MD 208 Hamilton street

3281
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:16,100
between the city of

3282
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:17,100
Hyattsville and Maryland

3283
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:19,100
Department of Transportation,

3284
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:21,100
State Highway Administration.

3285
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:23,100
>>I know that's your baby. You

3286
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,100
got the champagne? Did you pop

3287
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,100
it yet?

3288
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:27,100
>>Well, I'm gonna wait

3289
01:40:27,100 --> 01:40:29,100
for the word.

3290
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:31,100
>>Okay. It's been seconded by

3291
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:33,401
Ms. Straub. Ms. Taylor.

3292
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:42,100
>>Yes. Good evening, Mayor and

3293
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,100
council. Thank you

3294
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,100
for the opportunity to speak

3295
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:47,100
on this roadway transfer. It's

3296
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:49,100
been a long journey. I'm gonna

3297
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:50,100
briefly talk

3298
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:52,100
through the history, just

3299
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:53,100
for those of you that may not

3300
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:54,100
be as familiar

3301
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:55,100
with this process. So back

3302
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:57,401
in late 2021, the council

3303
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:01,100
authorized the city

3304
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:03,100
administrator and staff

3305
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:06,100
to begin negotiations with M.

3306
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:08,100
SHA to start talking

3307
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,100
about the transfer

3308
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:11,100
of ownership of the segment

3309
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,100
of Hamilton street between

3310
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:15,100
Queens chapel Road and 38th

3311
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:17,100
Avenue. Since that time,

3312
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:19,100
you've been working

3313
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:22,100
with the SHA District 3 office

3314
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:23,100
to evaluate different scenarios

3315
01:41:23,100 --> 01:41:25,401
of a transfer, develop

3316
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:29,100
conceptual plans and just get

3317
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,100
the state on board

3318
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:32,100
with our vision

3319
01:41:32,100 --> 01:41:34,100
for that transfer process. Had

3320
01:41:34,100 --> 01:41:36,100
many setbacks

3321
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:38,401
during that process. Namely,

3322
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:40,100
there was significant turnover

3323
01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:42,100
in staff in the District 3

3324
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:44,100
office. So that was a major

3325
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:46,100
delay

3326
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:49,100
in the negotiation process in

3327
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:50,100
2022. Luckily, through our

3328
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:52,100
persistence and collaboration

3329
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:54,100
with the District 3 office,

3330
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,100
we were able to come

3331
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:59,100
to a mutual understanding. And

3332
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:01,100
the District 3 engineer

3333
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:03,100
initiated that transfer process

3334
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:06,100
with MDOT's real estate office

3335
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:09,100
in April of 2023. I believe

3336
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:14,100
at that time we were under the

3337
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:16,100
impression the transfer process

3338
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,100
would take approximately six

3339
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:20,100
months. Obviously it took a

3340
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
fair bit longer than that.

3341
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:24,100
But we continued to follow up

3342
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:26,100
with them, Both the District 3

3343
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:28,100
office and the real estate

3344
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:30,100
office, and ultimately got a

3345
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:32,100
draft transfer agreement in

3346
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:34,100
January of this year, which.

3347
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:36,100
Which we've shared

3348
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,100
with you as part

3349
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:40,601
of the packet here. Let's see,

3350
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:43,100
what else do I have?

3351
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:44,100
Ultimately, we decided

3352
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:48,201
to do an as is transfer. That

3353
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:52,100
was a recommendation from the

3354
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:54,401
district engineer and part

3355
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:58,100
of our assessment. They were

3356
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,100
generally in support of the

3357
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:03,100
conceptual designs and the

3358
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:04,100
vision that we were presenting

3359
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:06,100
to them,

3360
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:07,100
but they were very transparent

3361
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:09,100
with us that if the state were

3362
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:12,100
to complete some of the

3363
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:13,100
conceptual design improvements,

3364
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:15,100
that that transfer process

3365
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:17,100
could take upwards of 10 years

3366
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:20,100
to complete. So ultimately it

3367
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:24,100
was. It was decided to move

3368
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:26,100
in this direction.

3369
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:29,100
Additionally, I'll remind

3370
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:31,100
everyone that the transfer

3371
01:43:31,100 --> 01:43:33,100
agreement does not include the

3372
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:35,100
traffic light

3373
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:37,100
at the intersection of

3374
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:39,100
Hamilton and 38 strikes. If.

3375
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:40,100
If we were to proceed

3376
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:42,401
with this transfer agreement,

3377
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:45,100
that signal would continue

3378
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:46,100
to be Owned and maintained by

3379
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:48,100
M. SHA we would not take over

3380
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:50,401
the operation and maintenance

3381
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:54,100
of that signal. Let me see if I

3382
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:56,100
have anything else. I think

3383
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:58,100
those are. Those are the high

3384
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:00,100
points there. Leslie and Hal, I

3385
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,100
don't know if you have any

3386
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:03,100
additional context. Thank you.

3387
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
>>Ms. Roby. I called you

3388
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:06,100
by your first name, So I

3389
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:07,100
apologize. Ms. Riddle.

3390
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:09,401
>>Thank you. Thank you.

3391
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:13,100
Taylor. Mayor and council.

3392
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:15,100
This is as Mr. Solomon has his

3393
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:17,100
champagne ready. A long time

3394
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,100
coming. I know there had been a

3395
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:21,100
public question

3396
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:24,100
about budget as is. There is no

3397
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:25,100
cost to the city

3398
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:28,100
for this transfer. This is

3399
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,100
in writing. And this,

3400
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:32,100
of course, any improvements

3401
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:34,100
that we do that. The street is

3402
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:36,100
in good shape. The street was

3403
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:38,100
redone just a few years ago.

3404
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:40,100
But anything that we do will

3405
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,100
have to come back to this body

3406
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,100
for approval. I know there are

3407
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
some safety measures certainly

3408
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:47,100
we'd like to take

3409
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:49,100
into account, but that is where

3410
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:51,100
we are. I think Taylor

3411
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:53,100
represented it well. Hal, do

3412
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:55,401
you have anything additional?

3413
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:59,100
>>No, nothing. Nothing else

3414
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:01,100
additional right now.

3415
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:02,100
>>Thank you. Thank you, Mary.

3416
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:04,100
Thank you, Council.

3417
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:05,100
>>Thank you very much.

3418
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:07,401
Council, any questions? Mr.

3419
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:10,401
Dennis, sorry I jumped

3420
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:13,100
in front of Mr. Solomon, but

3421
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:15,100
I. I was. Thank you.

3422
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:17,100
>>Thank you for all the work

3423
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,100
that's.

3424
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,100
>>Been going into this. Can

3425
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
someone explain

3426
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:23,100
to me the consequences,

3427
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:26,100
I mean. Or not associated

3428
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:28,100
with not taking

3429
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:31,100
over the intersection. It seems

3430
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:34,100
like that a lot of. A lot

3431
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:36,100
of concern is over safety

3432
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:37,100
at an inner.

3433
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:40,100
At the intersection. We won't

3434
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:42,100
have that intersect. So like,

3435
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:44,100
does this hamstring us

3436
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:46,100
in our abilities

3437
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:49,401
to make this like.

3438
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:51,100
>>Oh, I like.

3439
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:53,100
>>So this seems

3440
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
like it's better than the.

3441
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,100
Than nothing. But also like

3442
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:02,100
it's still somewhat not as.

3443
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:04,100
>>So they will own the

3444
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,100
signalization. Council member

3445
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,100
DENNIS we own the roadway. So

3446
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:08,100
in conjunction

3447
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:09,100
with state highway,

3448
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,100
we certainly have some leverage

3449
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,100
to be able to improve that

3450
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,100
intersection considerably. I

3451
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:17,100
think that's the crux of it.

3452
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:19,100
We own the roadway. They own

3453
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:21,100
the signalization. We don't own

3454
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:23,100
any signals. Just so know.

3455
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:27,201
>>Oh, I know. And okay. So we

3456
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:30,100
would still be able to

3457
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:32,100
potentially promulgate some

3458
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:34,100
safety improvements

3459
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:36,100
with that question. It's. It's

3460
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:38,100
just the signalization that

3461
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:41,100
they. So if we wanted to do a

3462
01:46:41,100 --> 01:46:43,100
protected intersection for.

3463
01:46:43,100 --> 01:46:45,100
For instance, that would be

3464
01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:46,100
something that could be

3465
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:47,100
considered

3466
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:49,100
at that intersection. Yes.

3467
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:50,100
>>As long as we had state

3468
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:52,100
highway or 38. Right.

3469
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:54,100
Approval, then yes,

3470
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:56,100
that is feasible.

3471
01:46:56,100 --> 01:46:57,100
>>Okay. Thank you.

3472
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:59,100
>>Absolutely.

3473
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:01,100
>>Some.

3474
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:06,100
>>I wanted to. I wanted

3475
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:09,601
to say thank you to. To

3476
01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:13,100
Leslie, to How. To Taylor,

3477
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:19,100
for your hard work on this. I

3478
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
think this means a lot

3479
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:23,100
to our community. You guys were

3480
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:25,100
out there for the meetings and

3481
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:27,100
I don't know how many times

3482
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:28,100
they yelled and screamed at us

3483
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:29,100
about not being able

3484
01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:30,100
to do anything about state,

3485
01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:32,100
about that road because it was

3486
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:34,100
a state road and wanted us

3487
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:35,100
to take this on. And I

3488
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,100
appreciate you guys

3489
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:39,100
for actually taking it

3490
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:40,100
on and getting it

3491
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:41,100
across the finish line. One

3492
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:42,100
name that I did want

3493
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:43,100
to mention,

3494
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:44,100
because I know this was held up

3495
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:45,100
for a very long time,

3496
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:46,100
but we figured, well, we had

3497
01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:47,100
to wait

3498
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:49,100
until our thumbs and figure

3499
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:50,100
out what the state was doing.

3500
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:51,100
But delegate Nicole Williams,

3501
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:54,100
who this year is serving as

3502
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:55,100
chair of the Prince George's

3503
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:57,100
delegation, I happened

3504
01:47:58,100 --> 01:47:59,100
to speak to her right

3505
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:01,401
before she was going

3506
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:04,100
into a meeting with State

3507
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:05,100
highway, and I said, hey,

3508
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:06,100
we got something that's held up

3509
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:07,100
with them. She was like, no,

3510
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:09,100
no, no. I want

3511
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:11,100
to know everything

3512
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:12,100
about it right now, because I.

3513
01:48:12,100 --> 01:48:13,100
I'm coming up with a list

3514
01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:14,100
of things that they need

3515
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:15,100
to do immediately. And so I'm

3516
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:17,100
glad that she took this. She

3517
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,100
added this to her list. And it

3518
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:19,100
literally looks like, like,

3519
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:20,100
you know, a month

3520
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,100
after she had that meeting,

3521
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,100
like, they came back

3522
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:23,100
to us and this was. This was

3523
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:24,100
moving, moving along. So I'm

3524
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:27,100
appreciative to her as well.

3525
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:28,100
And yeah,

3526
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,100
I think that when we talk

3527
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:31,100
about the east, west divide,

3528
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,100
this is one

3529
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:33,100
of those things that, you know,

3530
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:35,100
I don't think there's a story,

3531
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:36,100
darker contrast sometimes in

3532
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:38,100
our city than leaving one side

3533
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:40,401
of Hamilton street, crossing

3534
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:42,100
over 38th and entering the

3535
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:44,100
other side. Even, you know,

3536
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,100
when it comes to Christmas

3537
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:47,100
lights, we've mentioned

3538
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:48,100
in the past. So I think that

3539
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:50,100
this would be extremely useful

3540
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:51,100
tool for many things, but also

3541
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:54,100
in healing that divide and look

3542
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:56,100
forward to the next motion

3543
01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:57,100
to take over the next part of

3544
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:58,100
Hamilton Street.

3545
01:48:58,100 --> 01:49:00,100
>>So thank you. Well, I don't

3546
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:01,100
appreciate you not sharing that

3547
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:03,100
champagne with all of us. Just

3548
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:05,100
saying.

3549
01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:06,100
>>So I'm doing a dry

3550
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:08,100
February, so I can't even drink

3551
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:10,100
it myself. I can only pour it

3552
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:11,100
and cheer to those who wish to

3553
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:12,100
partake.

3554
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:14,100
>>What are you gonna do?

3555
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:15,100
You're not gonna feed you the

3556
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:16,100
dog,

3557
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:17,100
are you?

3558
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:19,100
>>Absolutely.

3559
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,100
>>Ms. Wazat.

3560
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:22,401
>>Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3561
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:24,100
>>So I have a few questions.

3562
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:27,100
>>I heard Director Riddle say

3563
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:29,100
that Hamilton was recently

3564
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,100
refreshed by sha. So first I

3565
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
just wanted to ask a few

3566
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,401
additional questions on that.

3567
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:37,100
What aspects of the roadway did

3568
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:39,401
they recently maintain? Like,

3569
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:43,100
was it the. The road surface,

3570
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:46,100
the striping? I think there are

3571
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:47,100
sharrows on there,

3572
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:49,100
the shared arrows

3573
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:51,100
for cyclists. Did they do

3574
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:53,100
anything with the lighting, the

3575
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:55,100
walkways that are not

3576
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:57,100
continuous right now or other

3577
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:59,100
streetscaping? Like, what was

3578
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:01,100
their investment in the street?

3579
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:04,100
>>So there was it was actually

3580
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:06,100
wssc. They replaced the water

3581
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:08,100
main in the center

3582
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:09,100
of the road. I think it was

3583
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:10,100
about four or five years ago.

3584
01:50:10,100 --> 01:50:12,100
That was a complete full

3585
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:13,100
replacement of the full depth

3586
01:50:13,100 --> 01:50:15,100
patch as well as the top

3587
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:17,100
coating of the street. So that,

3588
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:19,100
you know,

3589
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:22,601
lasts quite a long time. There

3590
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:25,100
were certain intersections

3591
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:26,100
where the sidewalk was updated

3592
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:29,100
for ADA compliance. There are

3593
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:30,100
some sidewalks that need

3594
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:32,100
to be taken care of, that need

3595
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
to be reconfigured and fixed.

3596
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:35,100
Those are on our radar. We will

3597
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:37,100
bring that back to council

3598
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:39,401
at some juncture. Taylor,

3599
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:43,401
anything to add? Al?

3600
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:47,100
>>No, no. The, the one thing I

3601
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:50,100
did want to add is that as you

3602
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:51,100
mentioned, WSSC did rebuild the

3603
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:54,100
road and they went basically

3604
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:57,100
all the way from the entrance

3605
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:59,100
at Driscoll park all the way

3606
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:02,100
to Ager Road and I believe

3607
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:03,100
across Jager Road going towards

3608
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:05,100
Metro. They put a new 16 inch

3609
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:06,100
water main there. So they did a

3610
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:08,100
very thorough reconstruction.

3611
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:11,100
>>Of the, of the asphalt curve

3612
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:13,100
to curb.

3613
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:16,100
>>Okay, great. And do we have,

3614
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:17,100
I know you said we've looked

3615
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:19,100
into this, but do we have an

3616
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:20,100
estimate right now

3617
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:21,100
for the cost of installing a

3618
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,100
continuous walkway or sidewalk?

3619
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:26,100
Because I know that's been one

3620
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:27,100
of the main complaints that

3621
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:28,100
people have is that the

3622
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:30,100
sidewalk starts and stops and

3623
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:32,100
starts and stops. So do we have

3624
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,100
an estimate for that project?

3625
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:35,100
>>So we have a concept design

3626
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:37,100
at this juncture that we share

3627
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:38,100
with State highway, but we do

3628
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:39,100
not have a cost estimate.

3629
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:41,100
Again, we will bring that back

3630
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:42,100
to council in the near future.

3631
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:44,100
>>And if we accept this road,

3632
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:47,100
then that cost is on us.

3633
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:48,100
>>That's correct.

3634
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:51,100
>>Okay. And also how much do we

3635
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:53,100
anticipate that it would cost

3636
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:54,100
us to maintain this road? So

3637
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:56,100
when we think

3638
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,100
about street thing and the

3639
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:58,100
like that we do on all

3640
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:00,100
of our other roads,

3641
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:02,100
how much does it cost us to, to

3642
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:04,100
maintain this specific stretch

3643
01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:05,100
of road?

3644
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:06,100
>>So quite honestly,

3645
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:08,100
we've been doing it all along.

3646
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:10,100
It's a blip on the radar of

3647
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:12,100
State Highway. And so we push

3648
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:13,100
the snow, we sweep the road,

3649
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:16,100
we pick up the trash. Some of

3650
01:52:16,100 --> 01:52:18,100
that is considered maintenance

3651
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:20,100
by State Highway. So honestly

3652
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:22,401
it's nothing to add

3653
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:25,100
to things we already do. So

3654
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:29,100
it's a wash as far as cost. I

3655
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:31,100
mean, it wouldn't get done if

3656
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:33,100
we didn't do it. That's pretty

3657
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:34,100
much it. Now, they would

3658
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:36,100
eventually come

3659
01:52:36,100 --> 01:52:37,100
through and plow it,

3660
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:39,100
but we plow it because it's one

3661
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:41,100
of our main arterials and it's

3662
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:42,100
adjacent to our roadway.

3663
01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:44,100
>>Okay.

3664
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:46,100
>>And then my final question

3665
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:49,100
is, would there be any benefit

3666
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:50,100
or any dis. Benefit

3667
01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:52,100
to the people who actually live

3668
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:54,100
on this road, like, what will

3669
01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:56,100
they experience that might be

3670
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,100
any different in a positive or

3671
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:59,100
negative way?

3672
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:02,100
>>So positive, positive. You

3673
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,100
know, we can fix all the

3674
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:05,100
existing sidewalks that have

3675
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:08,100
some trip hazards. We can make

3676
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:09,100
sure we're already taking care

3677
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:11,100
of the trees. That's, that's

3678
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:13,100
just part of it. I think

3679
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:15,100
in a. I, I honestly,

3680
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:17,100
council member wise,

3681
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
I can't think of anything

3682
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,100
negative.

3683
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:20,100
>>Taylor.

3684
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:22,100
>>Hal.

3685
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,100
>>So I, I know currently

3686
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
there's,

3687
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:26,100
and this is not something

3688
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,100
we've, we've spoken about,

3689
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
there's some issues

3690
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:29,100
with flooding

3691
01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:31,100
on the roadway when there's,

3692
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:32,100
when there's, you know,

3693
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:33,100
weather events. And that's

3694
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:35,100
definitely something that we

3695
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:36,100
want to look at. Would be a

3696
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:38,100
major improvement.

3697
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:40,100
>>Yeah, I was going

3698
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:41,100
to add that the biggest benefit

3699
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:43,100
for the city and the residents

3700
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:45,100
on that street is that the city

3701
01:53:45,100 --> 01:53:47,100
can and is typically more

3702
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:48,100
responsive than state highway

3703
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:50,401
will be. You know,

3704
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:53,100
the state can take anywhere

3705
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:56,100
from five to seven years just

3706
01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:57,100
to design a sidewalk

3707
01:53:57,100 --> 01:53:59,100
replacement project and get it

3708
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:01,100
funded. Whereas, you know,

3709
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:03,100
we don't need that length

3710
01:54:03,100 --> 01:54:04,100
of time to make something

3711
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:05,100
like that happen. And you know,

3712
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:07,100
in this road, especially

3713
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:08,100
since WSSC resurfaced,

3714
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:11,100
it is so far down

3715
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:12,100
on the state's list of roads

3716
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:14,100
that need attention that we

3717
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:15,100
probably wouldn't see them do

3718
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:18,100
anything major on that road

3719
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:20,100
for another 10 plus years

3720
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,100
easily.

3721
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:25,100
>>Okay, thank you.

3722
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:27,100
>>Okay. Excuse me. How many

3723
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:28,100
questions do you have, Mr.

3724
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:30,100
S.H.

3725
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:32,100
>>I got a couple. Go for it.

3726
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:34,100
And, and may. And I hope none

3727
01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:36,100
of them have already been

3728
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:37,100
asked. I had a little technical

3729
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:38,100
glitch for my computer powered

3730
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:39,100
down in the middle

3731
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:41,100
of this Q and A. So my

3732
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:43,100
apologies in advance if this is

3733
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:45,100
duplicative,

3734
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:48,100
but couple questions. So, you

3735
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:50,100
know, one of the discussions

3736
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:52,100
was negotiations and

3737
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:55,100
negotiations for the terms of

3738
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:57,100
this transfer and there was

3739
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:58,100
discussion of Maryland State

3740
01:54:58,100 --> 01:54:59,100
Highways making some

3741
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,100
improvements prior

3742
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:02,100
to the transfer, but that would

3743
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:04,100
extend the required time

3744
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:07,601
to make the transfer. And I

3745
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:11,100
know we don't have a cost

3746
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:12,100
estimate

3747
01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:14,100
for our desired improvements.

3748
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:16,100
We've got a concept design,

3749
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:17,100
but you know, we kind of know

3750
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:19,100
about how much a linear foot of

3751
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:20,100
sidewalk costs or how much it

3752
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:22,100
takes to put

3753
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:24,100
in a street light or something

3754
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:26,100
like that. Was it ever broached

3755
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,100
with Maryland State Highways to

3756
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:31,100
rather than make the

3757
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:33,401
improvements to transfer the

3758
01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:35,100
land and transfer along

3759
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:36,100
with the land, some

3760
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:37,100
of the amount

3761
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:39,100
of those anticipations,

3762
01:55:40,100 --> 01:55:41,100
anticipated improvements was

3763
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:42,100
that asked of Maryland State

3764
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:44,100
Highways and did they respond

3765
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:45,100
to that?

3766
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:46,100
>>At one juncture we had talked

3767
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:48,100
about that, but it, it was

3768
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:50,100
at the very beginning when we,

3769
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:53,100
we were looking at working with

3770
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:55,100
our consultant and doing a

3771
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:56,100
concept plan at this point.

3772
01:55:56,100 --> 01:55:58,100
It's not

3773
01:55:58,100 --> 01:56:00,100
on the table and it's.

3774
01:56:00,100 --> 01:56:01,100
>>Not on the table

3775
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:03,100
at this point. Oh, go ahead.

3776
01:56:03,100 --> 01:56:05,100
>>I'm hoping to add

3777
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,100
to that. I, I think I recall,

3778
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:08,100
Leslie, when that was a part

3779
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:09,100
of the conversation. One

3780
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:10,100
of the, the trip hazards on

3781
01:56:10,100 --> 01:56:12,100
that is that that will require

3782
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:14,100
an appropriation also from,

3783
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,100
from the General assembly,

3784
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
which was something that we had

3785
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:18,100
not worked

3786
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,100
on previously and hadn't.

3787
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:20,100
Hasn't been any

3788
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:22,100
of our legislative requests

3789
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:23,100
since that time period.

3790
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:24,100
>>That is correct.

3791
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:25,100
>>And, and on a reimbursable

3792
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:27,100
basis that they were not

3793
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:28,100
interested in doing at the time

3794
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:29,100
because it was not a very high

3795
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:31,100
priority for them.

3796
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:34,100
>>Well, you know, although I

3797
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:36,100
think we could manage the road

3798
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:37,100
better and it sounds like

3799
01:56:37,100 --> 01:56:39,100
in a lot of ways we already are

3800
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:40,100
managing the road. It doesn't

3801
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:42,100
really feel

3802
01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:43,100
like we're getting, you know,

3803
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:45,100
we're taking this long term

3804
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:47,100
maintenance responsibility for

3805
01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:48,100
a road that you already

3806
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:50,100
described as kind

3807
01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:52,100
of an afterthought to them that

3808
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:54,100
something they'd probably

3809
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:56,100
rather not be responsible

3810
01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:58,100
for and we're taking it over

3811
01:56:58,100 --> 01:57:00,100
without really anything

3812
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:04,100
from them other than giving it

3813
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:06,100
to us. And it just,

3814
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:07,100
it just feels like there could

3815
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:09,100
have been opportunities there

3816
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:10,100
for a better, a better bargain

3817
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:12,100
for the city. But you said

3818
01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:14,100
those negotiations that, that

3819
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:15,100
ship has sailed. I can't

3820
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:17,100
remember exactly what words you

3821
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:18,100
used, but you said there were

3822
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:20,100
some early deliberations

3823
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:21,100
to those ends,

3824
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,100
but nothing recent. And could

3825
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:24,100
you elaborate a little bit more

3826
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:26,401
on those monetary discussions?

3827
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:29,100
>>Certainly.

3828
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:30,100
>>I mean this was again,

3829
01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:32,100
this has been in negotiations

3830
01:57:32,100 --> 01:57:35,100
for me for years. We did meet

3831
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:37,100
with state highway a number of

3832
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:40,601
times and there was talk about,

3833
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:44,100
you know, they're assisting or

3834
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:49,100
giving us money or financing.

3835
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:52,100
And at this juncture they said

3836
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:54,100
we're going

3837
01:57:54,100 --> 01:57:55,100
to give it you as is.

3838
01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:57,100
Certainly we could go back

3839
01:57:57,100 --> 01:57:59,100
to them, but I think that the

3840
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:01,100
state is probably not

3841
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:03,401
in the best positions

3842
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:06,100
to allocate money

3843
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:08,100
to this stretch of roadway

3844
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:11,100
because it's so small, pal.

3845
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:12,100
>>Yeah, I did want

3846
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,100
to add one item

3847
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:15,100
to that as well,

3848
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:16,100
is that this goes back

3849
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:18,100
to a frequent discussion we

3850
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:20,100
have with things highway is

3851
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:23,100
that they through. And I'll be

3852
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:25,100
honest, I don't remember which,

3853
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:27,100
which state law it is. But by

3854
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:29,100
state law they require the city

3855
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:31,100
to perform maintenance

3856
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:33,100
on the sidewalks

3857
01:58:33,100 --> 01:58:35,100
on state roads in the city.

3858
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:36,100
And if they consider it a

3859
01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:38,100
maintenance activity,

3860
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:40,100
they're not going to pay

3861
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:41,100
for it regardless of whether we

3862
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:43,100
own the road or take it

3863
01:58:43,100 --> 01:58:45,100
from them. And it's a,

3864
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:46,100
it's a frequent issue we have

3865
01:58:46,100 --> 01:58:47,100
with them because we feel

3866
01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:48,100
like there's, there's

3867
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:49,100
like sections

3868
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:51,100
of sidewalk where it needs

3869
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:52,100
to be reconstructed. And to us

3870
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:54,100
that's not a maintenance

3871
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:55,100
activity,

3872
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:56,100
that's a construction activity.

3873
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:58,100
And there's no clear guidance

3874
01:58:58,100 --> 01:58:59,100
in the state law or the,

3875
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:01,100
or MDOT's policies

3876
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:03,401
of what the definition

3877
01:59:04,100 --> 01:59:06,100
of maintenance versus, you

3878
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:08,100
know, reconstruction is. So

3879
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:10,100
that's, I think where we kind

3880
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:12,100
of end up here is that, you

3881
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:14,100
know, if they consider all this

3882
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:15,100
a maintenance activity,

3883
01:59:15,100 --> 01:59:17,100
they're, they're not going

3884
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:19,100
to give us anything. Anything

3885
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:21,100
for that.

3886
01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:23,401
>>Okay. Yeah. You know,

3887
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:26,100
I don't know how I'll vote

3888
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:27,100
on this. I like the idea

3889
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:29,100
of us getting it,

3890
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:32,100
but I do feel like it's not

3891
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:34,100
necessarily a great deal

3892
01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:37,100
for us, you know, and that

3893
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:39,100
in assuming this long term,

3894
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:41,100
you know, although it's

3895
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:42,100
in good shape now,

3896
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:43,100
that asphalt is going to need

3897
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:45,100
to be repaved, we are assuming

3898
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:47,100
longer term costs for,

3899
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:48,100
for doing this. And we already

3900
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:50,100
know the reason we want it is

3901
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:52,100
because the road isn't really

3902
01:59:52,100 --> 01:59:54,100
in the condition we want it

3903
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:57,100
to be in. And so we're

3904
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:59,100
anticipating making

3905
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:01,100
infrastructure improvements and

3906
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:04,100
also the long term maintenance,

3907
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:06,100
but we haven't got them

3908
02:00:06,100 --> 02:00:08,100
to give us anything

3909
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:10,100
but the road, which is in their

3910
02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:11,100
financial interest and no

3911
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:13,100
longer want

3912
02:00:13,100 --> 02:00:16,601
to maintain anyways. So I do

3913
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:18,100
have, I do have just kind

3914
02:00:18,100 --> 02:00:21,100
of some concerns about that.

3915
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,100
The. So

3916
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:25,100
about the intersection.

3917
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:27,401
There's three, you know,

3918
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:30,100
three or four roads. It's a

3919
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:31,100
standard four way intersection.

3920
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:33,100
And

3921
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,100
of those four roads that

3922
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:37,401
connect at that intersection,

3923
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:40,100
we own three of them

3924
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:42,100
at this point,

3925
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:43,100
is my understanding.

3926
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:45,100
But we're not taking ownership

3927
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:46,100
of the signal. And is that

3928
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:48,100
because we didn't want it or

3929
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:51,100
they wouldn't give it to us?

3930
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:52,100
Or could you elaborate further

3931
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:53,100
on that?

3932
02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:56,100
>>They own the third leg of 38

3933
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:58,100
and we don't manage signals and

3934
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:00,100
they wouldn't give it to us.

3935
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:03,100
So that's pretty much it.

3936
02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:04,100
>>So we asked them and they

3937
02:01:04,100 --> 02:01:06,100
said, sorry,

3938
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:08,100
we won't give you that. I mean,

3939
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:11,100
is there a protocol for that if

3940
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:12,100
we own three quarters of that

3941
02:01:12,100 --> 02:01:14,100
intersection?

3942
02:01:16,100 --> 02:01:18,100
>>One thing I can add to that

3943
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:19,100
is currently we only own two

3944
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:20,100
legs of that road. We would own

3945
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:22,100
three if, if you agree

3946
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:24,100
to take this on.

3947
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:25,100
>>Right, right, understood.

3948
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:27,100
>>Generally, municipalities

3949
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:29,401
don't own traffic signals.

3950
02:01:30,100 --> 02:01:33,601
Again, I believe there is a.

3951
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:35,100
It's been a while

3952
02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:36,100
since I looked this up, but I

3953
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:37,100
believe there's a state law

3954
02:01:37,100 --> 02:01:39,100
that requires them to be owned

3955
02:01:39,100 --> 02:01:40,100
by either the county or the

3956
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:43,100
state. I don't believe hardly

3957
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:45,100
any municipalities

3958
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:47,100
like ours own a traffic signal.

3959
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:49,100
You know, Baltimore City does,

3960
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:51,100
and the counties generally do,

3961
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:52,100
but I don't believe any Other

3962
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:53,100
municipalities own them. So we

3963
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:54,100
wouldn't,

3964
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:55,100
they wouldn't give it

3965
02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:56,100
to us and,

3966
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:57,100
and we wouldn't take it over

3967
02:01:57,100 --> 02:01:58,100
because we wouldn't have the

3968
02:01:58,100 --> 02:01:59,100
infrastructure to, to maintain

3969
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:01,100
that.

3970
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:03,401
>>And we didn't ask.

3971
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,100
>>Okay. Because to Sam's point,

3972
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:08,100
a lot

3973
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:09,100
of the safety concerns are

3974
02:02:09,100 --> 02:02:11,401
right at that intersection.

3975
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:13,100
The backups that are caused

3976
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:15,100
by that intersection,

3977
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:16,100
the blocking of roads,

3978
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:19,100
driveways, the fact that it

3979
02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:21,100
doesn't give you a walk signal

3980
02:02:21,100 --> 02:02:24,100
when you want to cross,

3981
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:25,100
you got

3982
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:27,100
to push a button and wait

3983
02:02:27,100 --> 02:02:28,100
for a full rotation

3984
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:29,100
to get a walk signal. They're

3985
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:31,100
just. They don't give you that

3986
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:33,401
automatic walk option when

3987
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:35,100
you're waiting there. Various

3988
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:38,601
things that I think the city

3989
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:41,100
would be interested

3990
02:02:41,100 --> 02:02:43,100
in improving but.

3991
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:45,100
But it sounds like a lot

3992
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:46,100
of those things will be

3993
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:48,100
off the table.

3994
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:52,100
But my last comment,

3995
02:02:52,100 --> 02:02:54,100
and this goes to a lot

3996
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:56,100
of the public comments,

3997
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:57,100
I would have liked

3998
02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:59,100
to have seen a cost for the

3999
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:01,100
improvements. I know we did a

4000
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:02,100
study. It wasn't included

4001
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:04,100
in the packet. There was public

4002
02:03:04,100 --> 02:03:05,100
comment related

4003
02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:07,100
to what the results

4004
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:09,100
of that study were. We got a

4005
02:03:09,100 --> 02:03:12,100
concept plan. I don't know.

4006
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:15,100
Did Pannoni deliver the full

4007
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:21,100
package for that contract is

4008
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:23,100
that we got. Because I asked

4009
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:25,100
for it and all I got was one

4010
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:27,100
single sheet.

4011
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:30,100
>>That.

4012
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:31,100
>>Had some lines on it.

4013
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:34,100
But was there like a,

4014
02:03:34,100 --> 02:03:36,100
a broader deliverable to what

4015
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:38,401
Panoni did for that?

4016
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:43,100
>>I don't believe so. Hal.

4017
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:45,100
Hal, you probably know the

4018
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:47,100
answer to that. I don't believe

4019
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:49,100
so. I think you all authorized

4020
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:51,100
us to go up to 100k,

4021
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:52,100
but I don't think we asked

4022
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:54,100
for them

4023
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:55,100
to go any further in, in

4024
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:57,100
until we were able to determine

4025
02:03:57,100 --> 02:03:59,401
whether we were able

4026
02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:02,100
to obtain the road. So I don't

4027
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:03,100
think we ever got anything

4028
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:04,100
further than that. I. We did

4029
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:05,100
not get caught cost estimates

4030
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:06,100
at this point.

4031
02:04:06,100 --> 02:04:07,100
But there were things

4032
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:08,100
from a safety perspective,

4033
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:09,100
crosswalks that we've asked

4034
02:04:09,100 --> 02:04:10,100
them to do. We've walked this

4035
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:11,100
road, probably Councilman

4036
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:13,100
President Solomon, you may

4037
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:14,100
remember, but I think we

4038
02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:15,100
started walking this road in

4039
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:17,100
2017, pointing out all

4040
02:04:17,100 --> 02:04:18,100
of the things that needed

4041
02:04:18,100 --> 02:04:21,100
to be repaired and fixed. So

4042
02:04:21,100 --> 02:04:23,100
each, each time we do anything

4043
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:25,100
on this road, we'd have

4044
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,100
to bring it back to you all.

4045
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:27,100
We have to do this within, you

4046
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:29,100
know, within whatever what

4047
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:30,100
we're able to,

4048
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:31,100
financially able

4049
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:33,100
to absorb each year. So it's

4050
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:34,100
not like we'll take it

4051
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:35,100
over and then go out and start

4052
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:36,100
making all the repairs

4053
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:37,100
immediately. We've got to do an

4054
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:39,100
assessment and we will ask them

4055
02:04:39,100 --> 02:04:40,100
for cost estimates etc,

4056
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:41,100
and then come back

4057
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:42,100
to this body

4058
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
with the repairs that we need

4059
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:45,100
to have made. Hal, I don't want

4060
02:04:45,100 --> 02:04:46,100
to speak. Speak for you or

4061
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:47,100
Leslie or, Or Taylor. Is that

4062
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:49,100
accurate?

4063
02:04:49,100 --> 02:04:51,100
>>Yeah, yeah, that's. That's

4064
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,100
accurate. The other piece

4065
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:54,100
of this is, I mean,

4066
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:55,100
you're looking

4067
02:04:55,100 --> 02:04:58,100
at not just the intersection

4068
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:00,100
at 38th and Hamilton. You're

4069
02:05:00,100 --> 02:05:02,100
looking at the crosswalk. That

4070
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:04,100
is a crosswalk with no, you

4071
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:06,100
know, no flashing beacon,

4072
02:05:06,100 --> 02:05:08,100
no pedestrian safety,

4073
02:05:08,100 --> 02:05:10,100
which is right across

4074
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,100
from the park and right across

4075
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:14,100
from 3505. So, you know, we, we

4076
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:17,100
realize that there'll be some

4077
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:18,100
level of investment, but

4078
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:20,401
with a concept plan,

4079
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:22,100
I don't think either Hal or

4080
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:24,100
Taylor, I want to put a number

4081
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:26,100
on that because it would be,

4082
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:29,100
you know, it again, concept

4083
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:33,100
plan and a good number. I'm

4084
02:05:33,100 --> 02:05:36,100
not. And we are not willing

4085
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:38,100
to do that until we have better

4086
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:40,100
information.

4087
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:43,100
>>The concept that we prepared

4088
02:05:43,100 --> 02:05:45,100
was to kind

4089
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:48,100
of see what was feasible

4090
02:05:48,100 --> 02:05:50,100
for that section of road. And

4091
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:52,100
then we, we did share that

4092
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:53,100
with State highway because when

4093
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:55,100
the negotiation started back

4094
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:56,100
in like 2021, they. They did

4095
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:58,100
give the option and they looked

4096
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:00,100
at all three options of them

4097
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:01,100
making improvements and keeping

4098
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:03,100
the road, them making

4099
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:05,100
improvements and giving the

4100
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:06,100
road to the city and them just

4101
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:07,100
giving the road to the city

4102
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:10,100
with no improvements. So that's

4103
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:13,100
what the concept was developed

4104
02:06:13,100 --> 02:06:15,100
for, was to kind

4105
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:17,100
of give them a sense of what we

4106
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:19,100
think could happen there and

4107
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:22,000
what we would like to see, but

4108
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:23,100
it's not a concept that's ready

4109
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:24,100
to go

4110
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:25,100
to engineering design yet. We

4111
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:26,100
would have to re. Review it.

4112
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:28,100
We'd have to look

4113
02:06:28,100 --> 02:06:29,100
at what's changed

4114
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:31,100
in the last four or five years

4115
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:33,100
since it was developed. We

4116
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:34,100
would have to have some

4117
02:06:34,100 --> 02:06:35,100
community meetings and get some

4118
02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:37,100
input on what some of the

4119
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:39,100
safety features are and where

4120
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:40,100
they're located. So it's not

4121
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:42,100
ready to have an estimate

4122
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:44,100
at this time. It's just this is

4123
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:46,100
what we think could. Could. We

4124
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:48,100
could do to make these safety

4125
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:49,100
improvements,

4126
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:51,100
but it wasn't close to being a

4127
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:52,100
final design yet.

4128
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:54,100
>>And I think the other piece

4129
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:55,100
of this is we've waited

4130
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:56,100
for years for the state

4131
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,100
to get back to us. I mean,

4132
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:00,100
Taylor was on, you know,

4133
02:07:00,100 --> 02:07:01,100
consistently reaching out

4134
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:03,100
to the state, consistently

4135
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:04,100
saying, do you have something?

4136
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:05,100
Oh, no, it's with it's

4137
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:07,100
with our real estate people.

4138
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:09,100
So when we finally got this

4139
02:07:09,100 --> 02:07:11,100
offer back and it's like, okay,

4140
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:12,100
well, let's discuss this

4141
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:14,100
with council, let's bring it

4142
02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:16,100
to action. Let's, you know,

4143
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:17,100
do what we believe is the right

4144
02:07:17,100 --> 02:07:18,100
thing, I think,

4145
02:07:18,100 --> 02:07:19,100
for our residents and the

4146
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:21,100
safety of people,

4147
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:23,100
pedestrians. I mean,

4148
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:24,100
the state's not going

4149
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:27,601
to do this. That's just it.

4150
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:32,100
>>My final question is related

4151
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:34,100
to like the biggest issue,

4152
02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:35,100
and we've heard about this,

4153
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:36,100
it's in our traffic study and

4154
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:38,100
other things is the

4155
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:40,100
discontinuous sidewalks,

4156
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:42,100
sidewalks broken,

4157
02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:43,100
breakup and all along there.

4158
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:44,100
And it's a,

4159
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:45,100
it's a popular route to get

4160
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:48,601
to the metro is. Did we

4161
02:07:49,100 --> 02:07:51,100
determine whether we have the

4162
02:07:51,100 --> 02:07:53,100
right of way

4163
02:07:53,100 --> 02:07:54,100
to build those if we want

4164
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:56,100
to make contiguous sidewalks

4165
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:58,100
along both sides

4166
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:02,100
of the road there, or do we.

4167
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:04,100
Are we unclear whether that

4168
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:05,100
right away will come

4169
02:08:05,100 --> 02:08:07,100
with this transfer?

4170
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:09,100
>>I mean,

4171
02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:10,100
I think we have ample right

4172
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:12,100
of way. It's a fairly wide

4173
02:08:12,100 --> 02:08:14,100
street, so even if we have

4174
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:16,100
to come into the

4175
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:18,100
around private property and

4176
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:19,100
into the existing street, we

4177
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:21,100
have more than ample clearance.

4178
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:23,100
But how.

4179
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:26,401
>>Yeah, there, as Lizzie

4180
02:08:27,100 --> 02:08:28,100
mentioned, there is generally

4181
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:29,100
very wide right of way.

4182
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:30,100
There's only one location where

4183
02:08:30,100 --> 02:08:31,100
there's two houses

4184
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:32,100
near the intersection

4185
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:35,100
with 36th Avenue, basically the

4186
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:39,100
edge of the asphalt. So that

4187
02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:42,100
would be the only, you know,

4188
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:44,100
kind of difficult connection

4189
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:45,100
for us to make. We have

4190
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:47,100
to look

4191
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:49,100
at what's available space wise.

4192
02:08:49,100 --> 02:08:51,100
Panoni did include that

4193
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:52,100
in their concept, but, you

4194
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:53,100
know, we'd have to look

4195
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:55,100
at that final, you know,

4196
02:08:55,100 --> 02:08:57,100
once we kind of get that,

4197
02:08:57,100 --> 02:08:59,100
we get the survey from State

4198
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:00,100
highway and they give us the

4199
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:01,100
final plats

4200
02:09:01,100 --> 02:09:03,100
to see exactly what would fit.

4201
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:04,100
But generally the rest

4202
02:09:04,100 --> 02:09:06,100
of the areas, there is room

4203
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:08,100
for us to, to finish those,

4204
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:10,100
those sidewalk segments. It's

4205
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:12,100
just that 1, 1, 2 property area

4206
02:09:12,100 --> 02:09:14,100
that's a little,

4207
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:16,100
little challenging

4208
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:17,100
for us.

4209
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:19,100
>>Okay, thank you.

4210
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:20,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Shelby. Mr.

4211
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,100
Solomon.

4212
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:23,100
>>I, I was just going

4213
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:24,100
to assist staff

4214
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,401
with providing some responses.

4215
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:29,100
The first thing is just on,

4216
02:09:29,100 --> 02:09:32,100
on the cost. I think that. Do

4217
02:09:32,100 --> 02:09:33,100
you know, do we have. We don't.

4218
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:34,100
Do we have estimates for any.

4219
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:36,100
For cost

4220
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:37,100
on any parcels that we don't

4221
02:09:37,100 --> 02:09:39,100
own in the city of

4222
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:40,100
Hinesville, Any projects

4223
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:41,100
on land that we don't own? Do

4224
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:42,100
we have any estimates?

4225
02:09:42,100 --> 02:09:44,100
>>No.

4226
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:45,100
>>Exactly. And so I think that

4227
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:47,100
the request to,

4228
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:49,100
to have an estimate

4229
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,100
at this point is just outside

4230
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:51,100
of the scope

4231
02:09:51,100 --> 02:09:52,100
of work that we assign

4232
02:09:52,100 --> 02:09:54,100
to our staff members, which is,

4233
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:55,100
you know,

4234
02:09:55,100 --> 02:09:56,100
we can't estimate a project

4235
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:58,100
until we have something

4236
02:09:58,100 --> 02:10:00,100
to do that estimate.

4237
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:02,100
On the second portion

4238
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:03,100
of the estimate Is, well,

4239
02:10:03,100 --> 02:10:04,100
what would it cost

4240
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:06,100
to rebuild the roadway? Well,

4241
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:08,100
the roadway was. Was rebuilt

4242
02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:11,100
and so we wouldn't have a cost

4243
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:12,100
estimate on what it costs

4244
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:14,100
to rebuild again

4245
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:15,100
until we start to determine

4246
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:16,100
that it's deteriorated

4247
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:17,100
to a point that we would need

4248
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:19,100
to rebuild it. As staff

4249
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:20,100
mentioned, four years ago, when

4250
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:23,100
this road did have significant

4251
02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:24,100
issues and we were struggling

4252
02:10:24,100 --> 02:10:27,100
with how to convince State

4253
02:10:27,100 --> 02:10:30,100
highway to rebuild this road,

4254
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:32,100
they told us that this was such

4255
02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:34,100
a low priority

4256
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:35,100
on their list that even

4257
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:37,100
in that awful condition,

4258
02:10:37,100 --> 02:10:38,100
it still would be 10 to 20

4259
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:40,100
years before they got around

4260
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:42,100
to it. And luckily,

4261
02:10:42,100 --> 02:10:43,100
I think we had the assistance

4262
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:45,100
of then County Councilwoman

4263
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:47,100
Tavares who was able to get

4264
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:49,100
over to WSSC and say, hey,

4265
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:50,100
what do you guys. What can you

4266
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:52,100
guys do? And they decided that

4267
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:53,100
they had to do some work

4268
02:10:53,100 --> 02:10:54,100
on that street. And that's the

4269
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:56,100
only way that it got

4270
02:10:56,100 --> 02:10:57,100
to a point now. But the point

4271
02:10:57,100 --> 02:10:59,100
that it is now it's rebuilt.

4272
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,100
So you wouldn't have an

4273
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:01,100
estimate on a rebuilt road

4274
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:02,100
until it starts

4275
02:11:02,100 --> 02:11:03,100
to deteriorate again. And then

4276
02:11:03,100 --> 02:11:04,100
you need to go in and look at

4277
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:06,100
it and correct me if I'm wrong,

4278
02:11:06,100 --> 02:11:07,100
but I imagine this is how the

4279
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:08,100
process goes, then you need

4280
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:09,100
to go look at it and see how

4281
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:10,100
much that costs. Right now we

4282
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,100
can say that maybe eight years

4283
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:12,100
down the road, but who knows,

4284
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:15,100
maybe the roadways are done so

4285
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,100
well that, you know,

4286
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:18,100
we don't have a problem until

4287
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:20,100
10 years down the road.

4288
02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:21,100
But it wouldn't be until we got

4289
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:23,100
closer that we saw the roads

4290
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,100
had deteriorated

4291
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:25,100
to a point that we needed

4292
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:27,100
to investigate how much

4293
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:28,100
of a cost to do the

4294
02:11:28,100 --> 02:11:30,100
replacements that we would have

4295
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:31,100
an estimate on that. So I.

4296
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:32,100
Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

4297
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,100
>>You good?

4298
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:34,100
>>Yep.

4299
02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:35,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Solomon.

4300
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:37,100
Okay, so we got another comment

4301
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:39,100
and then we're going to. I'm

4302
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:40,100
going to have

4303
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:41,100
to ask a question

4304
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:43,100
on this one, Mr. Hava.

4305
02:11:43,100 --> 02:11:45,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I just

4306
02:11:45,100 --> 02:11:47,100
wanted to thank staff

4307
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:49,100
for bringing this forward and

4308
02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:52,100
for seeing this one through.

4309
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:55,100
I'm happy and glad that we

4310
02:11:55,100 --> 02:11:57,100
finally get in there and that

4311
02:11:57,100 --> 02:12:00,100
council will approve this. I

4312
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:02,100
think, yes, there are going

4313
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:03,100
to be costs associated

4314
02:12:03,100 --> 02:12:04,100
with this,

4315
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:06,100
but the bottom line, for me,

4316
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:07,100
it's a quality

4317
02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:09,100
of life and a safety issue

4318
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:11,100
for those residents who live

4319
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:13,100
around there. For people who

4320
02:12:13,100 --> 02:12:15,100
patronize the park,

4321
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:17,100
for people who work

4322
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:18,100
through and from the Metro, the

4323
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:20,100
intersection at Hamilton and

4324
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:22,100
38, I think it's relatively

4325
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,100
safe. At least there is a

4326
02:12:24,100 --> 02:12:25,100
traffic signal there that you

4327
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:27,100
can use.

4328
02:12:27,100 --> 02:12:28,100
>>Yes.

4329
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:29,100
>>There is no dedicated turn

4330
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:30,100
signal, but

4331
02:12:30,100 --> 02:12:32,100
with us taking over,

4332
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:34,100
I think it's going

4333
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:35,100
to facilitate that conversation

4334
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:37,100
with state highway

4335
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:39,100
to tell them hey, could we

4336
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:41,100
improve this signalization here

4337
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:42,100
to have that dedicated turn.

4338
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:44,100
But

4339
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:46,100
at least if they don't do it,

4340
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:47,100
we can make the, you know,

4341
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:50,100
hard on the ground improvement

4342
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:51,100
that we can. I think this is

4343
02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:54,100
just. We should be happy

4344
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:58,100
about this and I'm glad

4345
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:03,100
to see that we finally taken

4346
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:05,100
over what should have been done

4347
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:07,100
a long time and that those

4348
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:09,100
residents along the corridor

4349
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:10,100
will receive the same services

4350
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:12,100
that we receive

4351
02:13:13,100 --> 02:13:15,100
in our neighborhood road. So

4352
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:16,100
that's all I had to say

4353
02:13:16,100 --> 02:13:18,100
in terms of comment on this.

4354
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:20,100
And I hope that we can also get

4355
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:22,100
the remaining segment Queen

4356
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:25,100
Chapel to Eder because there's

4357
02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:26,100
work to be done there as well.

4358
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:27,100
>>Thank you.

4359
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:29,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Har.

4360
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:31,100
Colleagues. It's been,

4361
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:33,100
it's been moved and seconded.

4362
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:34,100
All in favor?

4363
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:36,100
>>Aye.

4364
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:41,100
>>Any opposed? Are there any

4365
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:44,100
extensions? Okay, the ayes have

4366
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:48,100
it. Mr. Solomon.

4367
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:55,100
>>Resolution 2025 02,

4368
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:57,100
Dedication of Parcel 5, a

4369
02:13:57,100 --> 02:13:59,100
recreational facility

4370
02:13:59,100 --> 02:14:00,100
of landing property

4371
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:01,100
to the city of Heightsville for

4372
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:02,100
public use. I move that the

4373
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:04,100
mayor and the city council

4374
02:14:04,100 --> 02:14:06,100
adopt Resolution 2025 02,

4375
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:08,401
formally dedicating Parcel 5, a

4376
02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:11,401
20447 AC parcel of which

4377
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:15,100
includes a recreational

4378
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:19,601
facility and a. Oh, I'm sorry,

4379
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:22,100
I read that 86 acre woodland.

4380
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:23,100
>>I think you're drinking that

4381
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:25,100
same pain.

4382
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:29,100
>>Got weird. To be used and

4383
02:14:29,100 --> 02:14:31,100
maintained as a public

4384
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:32,100
recreational park. So

4385
02:14:32,100 --> 02:14:34,100
for the record,

4386
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:36,100
that should say a 2.0447 acre

4387
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:38,100
parcel playground.

4388
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:39,100
>>Is there a second

4389
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:41,100
for this?

4390
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:43,100
>>Second?

4391
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:44,100
>>Okay, it's been moved

4392
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:47,100
in second. Mr. Ulysse. Good

4393
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:49,100
evening Mayor, Council,

4394
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:51,401
Council, thank you for

4395
02:14:52,100 --> 02:14:54,100
to discuss this today. I want

4396
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:56,100
to also thank council member

4397
02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:58,100
Wozik and council member

4398
02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:00,100
Redmond for their facilitation

4399
02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:02,100
of conversation regarding this

4400
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:05,100
of this park as well as the

4401
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:07,100
other council members who I'm

4402
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:08,100
sure feel the questions

4403
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,100
regarding the dedication

4404
02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:10,100
of this park was before the

4405
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:12,100
council and this body December

4406
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:14,100
2nd of last year to provide the

4407
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:16,100
council refresher. This project

4408
02:15:16,100 --> 02:15:19,100
has been a long time in the

4409
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:20,100
making. I believe this project

4410
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:22,100
received planning board

4411
02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:23,100
approval back in 2018. And at

4412
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:25,100
that point the project itself

4413
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:28,100
was split into two phases.

4414
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:30,100
This project included the

4415
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:31,100
construction of 331 single

4416
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:33,100
family attached townhouses.

4417
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:37,100
And that project within the

4418
02:15:37,100 --> 02:15:39,100
first phase included

4419
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:42,401
construction of 200 units as

4420
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:47,100
well as the parcel V. So I'll

4421
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:48,100
correct council president

4422
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:50,401
Solomon actually is council

4423
02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:53,100
parcel V as opposed

4424
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:55,100
to parcel five

4425
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:59,100
within that parcel it includes,

4426
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:01,100
as mentioned in motion, 0.86

4427
02:16:01,100 --> 02:16:04,100
acre of an acre preservation

4428
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:08,100
area as well as on site

4429
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:09,100
recreational infrastructure

4430
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:11,100
which includes master plan

4431
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:13,100
multi use trail, a straight

4432
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:15,100
Shaded overlook structure

4433
02:16:16,100 --> 02:16:18,100
with amphitheater seating,

4434
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:20,100
essentially two shaded

4435
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:22,401
structures play area which

4436
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:25,100
includes preschool equipment as

4437
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:27,100
well as three bike racks,

4438
02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:29,401
two pet waste stations, 16

4439
02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:32,100
benches distributed throughout

4440
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:34,100
the entire parcel and

4441
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:36,401
vegetative landscaping as well.

4442
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:39,100
We initially had essentially as

4443
02:16:39,100 --> 02:16:42,100
a result of the December 2

4444
02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:45,100
council meeting and discussion

4445
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:47,100
on this,

4446
02:16:47,100 --> 02:16:49,100
we conducted a first inspection

4447
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:51,100
on January 30.

4448
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:54,100
In that inspection we were able

4449
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:56,100
to produce short punch list of

4450
02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:58,401
items which include central

4451
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:01,401
remediation of deadwood within

4452
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:03,100
the woodland preservation area,

4453
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:05,100
repair replace

4454
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:07,100
of a playground spinner, looks

4455
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:10,100
like they had some loose pieces

4456
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:12,100
and maybe some broken pieces

4457
02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:14,100
at the bottom of it as well as

4458
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:15,100
repair and replace a mirror

4459
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:17,100
panel also

4460
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:19,401
on the playground looks

4461
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:22,100
like it had small imperfections

4462
02:17:22,100 --> 02:17:23,100
on there that needs

4463
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:25,100
to be replaced as well. Result

4464
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:27,100
of the December meeting also

4465
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:28,100
allowed me

4466
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:30,100
to provide presentation

4467
02:17:30,100 --> 02:17:31,100
to our Youth Advisory

4468
02:17:31,100 --> 02:17:33,100
committee. This project itself

4469
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:35,401
is adjacent to Northwestern

4470
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:38,100
High School where we've had a

4471
02:17:38,100 --> 02:17:40,100
lot of discussions regarding

4472
02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:43,100
how the high school and

4473
02:17:43,100 --> 02:17:44,100
students as well as community

4474
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:46,401
can collaborate and work

4475
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:49,100
together throughout the school

4476
02:17:49,100 --> 02:17:51,100
year. So we were able

4477
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:52,100
to provide the youth Advisory

4478
02:17:52,100 --> 02:17:54,100
Committee with a presentation

4479
02:17:54,100 --> 02:17:56,100
regarding the dedication of

4480
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:57,100
this park parcel. I'll

4481
02:17:57,100 --> 02:17:58,100
reiterate as well,

4482
02:17:58,100 --> 02:18:00,100
this parcel as a result of this

4483
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:01,100
development project is not an

4484
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:03,100
obligation or the council has

4485
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:05,100
no obligation to accept. But it

4486
02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:07,100
was discussed and I believe

4487
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:09,100
there is a certain desire

4488
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:10,100
to move forward

4489
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:11,100
with the acceptance

4490
02:18:11,100 --> 02:18:12,100
of this.

4491
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:13,100
>>The Youth Advisory Council

4492
02:18:13,100 --> 02:18:14,100
provides comments as.

4493
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:16,100
>>Well where

4494
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:17,100
in general they are in support

4495
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:18,100
in support of accepting this

4496
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:20,100
parcel and playground. They

4497
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:21,100
provided comments

4498
02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:24,100
on conditions that they would

4499
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:27,100
like

4500
02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:29,100
to see such as a four foot

4501
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:31,100
fence around the perimeter

4502
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:32,100
of the playground equipment,

4503
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:34,100
continued conversations

4504
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:35,100
with the PG County Public

4505
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:37,100
school system regarding a

4506
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:39,100
pedestrian pathway and

4507
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:41,100
essentially some reinforced

4508
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:43,100
fencing

4509
02:18:43,100 --> 02:18:45,100
around the parcel area as well.

4510
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:47,401
Through our review and

4511
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:50,100
through the initial after the

4512
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:52,100
initial inspection and punch

4513
02:18:52,100 --> 02:18:55,100
list items which are amenable

4514
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:56,100
by the developer and has agreed

4515
02:18:56,100 --> 02:18:59,100
to provide either replace and

4516
02:19:00,100 --> 02:19:03,100
or repair the broken material

4517
02:19:03,100 --> 02:19:05,100
infrastructure as well as

4518
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:07,100
to take care of and complete

4519
02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:09,100
the remedial work associated

4520
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:11,401
with the woodland preservation

4521
02:19:12,100 --> 02:19:14,100
area. So we have come to a

4522
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:16,100
point now where we've produced

4523
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:19,100
a punch list item punch list of

4524
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:20,100
items that the developer has

4525
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:22,100
agreed to to complete. So it's

4526
02:19:22,100 --> 02:19:24,100
before the council now to.

4527
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:25,100
>>See if there's a desire

4528
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:27,100
to move.

4529
02:19:27,100 --> 02:19:28,100
>>Forward with dedication

4530
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:30,100
through and via resolution.

4531
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:33,100
Thank you. Ms. Riddle, do you

4532
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:34,100
want

4533
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:36,100
to add anything?

4534
02:19:38,100 --> 02:19:40,100
>>Thank you Mayor Crosline.

4535
02:19:40,100 --> 02:19:42,100
Thank you Jeff. We staff is

4536
02:19:42,100 --> 02:19:44,100
in support of this. I think it

4537
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:46,100
provides an amenity

4538
02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:48,100
on that side of the city of

4539
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:49,100
Hyattsville that we do not

4540
02:19:49,100 --> 02:19:52,100
have. It's a well constructed

4541
02:19:53,100 --> 02:19:55,100
Park. We have done multiple

4542
02:19:55,100 --> 02:19:57,100
inspections. I think we've

4543
02:19:57,100 --> 02:19:59,100
accommodated

4544
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:01,100
for the upcoming budget

4545
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:02,100
for this park,

4546
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:05,100
so we've done that again,

4547
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:07,100
I think this is a very well

4548
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:09,100
constructed, lovely amenity

4549
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:11,100
for this area of the city of

4550
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:13,100
Hyattsville.

4551
02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:15,401
>>Thank you, colleagues. Any

4552
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:19,100
questions? Comments? Going

4553
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:28,100
once, Going twice. Thank you so

4554
02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:29,100
much. Okay, it's been moved.

4555
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:31,401
It's been seconded. All

4556
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:33,100
in favor? Aye. Aye.

4557
02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:35,100
>>Aye.

4558
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:37,100
>>Opposed? Abstentions? Seeing

4559
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:42,100
none. The ayes have it. Okay,

4560
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:44,100
we are down

4561
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:45,100
to council dialogue. Anyone

4562
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:46,100
have anything they want

4563
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:47,100
to want to address or say

4564
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:48,100
to the community,

4565
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:50,100
this is the time. Raise your

4566
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:53,100
hand. Mr. Dennis. Thank you,

4567
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:55,100
Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to

4568
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:58,100
remind everyone that the most

4569
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:02,100
dangerous thing we do

4570
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:03,100
on a daily basis is get

4571
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:04,100
behind a car, get

4572
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:07,100
behind a wheel and drive a car.

4573
02:21:07,100 --> 02:21:08,100
While we're doing that,

4574
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:11,100
we should avoid engaging in

4575
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:13,100
activities that would otherwise

4576
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:15,100
distract us from the very real

4577
02:21:15,100 --> 02:21:17,401
responsibility that we need

4578
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:21,100
to take, that we take

4579
02:21:22,100 --> 02:21:24,100
by getting behind the wheel and

4580
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:27,601
operating a vehicle. And I just

4581
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:32,100
really stress that it's much

4582
02:21:33,100 --> 02:21:35,100
better to arrive somewhere a

4583
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:39,201
little bit late than to take a

4584
02:21:42,100 --> 02:21:45,601
call or use your phone while

4585
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:50,401
driving. It's an unnecessary

4586
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:54,100
risk, and it still boggles my

4587
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:56,401
mind that people. People

4588
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:58,100
continue to take that risk,

4589
02:21:58,100 --> 02:22:00,100
put themselves, their loved

4590
02:22:00,100 --> 02:22:02,401
ones, and other people

4591
02:22:04,100 --> 02:22:06,100
on the street

4592
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:09,100
at risk regularly. Thank you.

4593
02:22:12,100 --> 02:22:13,100
Thank you, Mr. Dennis. Mr.

4594
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:15,401
Redmond. Thank you, sir.

4595
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:18,100
For those. I think, you know,

4596
02:22:18,100 --> 02:22:20,100
we're entering the budget

4597
02:22:20,100 --> 02:22:21,100
season, and thank you

4598
02:22:21,100 --> 02:22:22,100
in advance for residents

4599
02:22:22,100 --> 02:22:24,100
for speaking out, out, getting

4600
02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:26,100
engaged, asking questions. One

4601
02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:29,100
of the things that we. I was

4602
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:31,100
always trained at work was if

4603
02:22:31,100 --> 02:22:32,100
you offer feedback, think three

4604
02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:34,100
things.

4605
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:35,100
>>That makes it useful,

4606
02:22:35,100 --> 02:22:36,100
making it timely.

4607
02:22:36,100 --> 02:22:37,100
>>Making it actionable,

4608
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:39,100
making it accurate. As we

4609
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:40,100
engage

4610
02:22:40,100 --> 02:22:41,100
in these conversations. As a

4611
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:43,100
community, I invite and I.

4612
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:45,100
>>Even challenge residents when

4613
02:22:45,100 --> 02:22:47,100
offering feedback.

4614
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:50,100
>>You know, help us, help us

4615
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:51,100
better.

4616
02:22:51,100 --> 02:22:52,100
>>Understand what it is you

4617
02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:53,100
want to see more

4618
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:55,100
of or less of. Saying cut the

4619
02:22:55,100 --> 02:22:57,100
budget or making it balanced,

4620
02:22:57,100 --> 02:22:59,100
sure. We will work towards

4621
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:00,100
that.

4622
02:23:00,100 --> 02:23:01,100
>>If there's something you want

4623
02:23:01,100 --> 02:23:02,100
to see.

4624
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:03,100
>>More or less of, tell us

4625
02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:04,100
that,

4626
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:05,100
too.

4627
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,100
>>I think that's the piece

4628
02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:07,100
that, you.

4629
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:08,100
>>Know, will really be helpful

4630
02:23:08,100 --> 02:23:09,100
as we move forward.

4631
02:23:09,100 --> 02:23:10,100
>>If there are programs you

4632
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:11,100
want us.

4633
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:12,100
>>To reinvest in or invest

4634
02:23:12,100 --> 02:23:13,100
more, that's great.

4635
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:14,100
>>We want to hear it.

4636
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:15,100
Obviously, if there are

4637
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:16,100
programs you feel.

4638
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:17,100
>>Aren'T you necessarily as

4639
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:18,100
useful? We

4640
02:23:18,100 --> 02:23:19,100
like that feedback as well. So

4641
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:20,100
I invite residents,

4642
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:22,100
when giving this.

4643
02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:23,100
>>Feedback to us, tell us a

4644
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:25,100
little more than just cut the

4645
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:28,100
budget or make it balanced.

4646
02:23:30,100 --> 02:23:31,100
Thank you. Thank you, Mr.

4647
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:33,100
Van. Mr. Shadley?

4648
02:23:36,100 --> 02:23:37,100
>>Yes, thank you. A couple

4649
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:40,601
of comments. I'll go. I'll lead

4650
02:23:41,100 --> 02:23:44,100
with budget because that's what

4651
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:47,100
was just brought up. You know,

4652
02:23:47,100 --> 02:23:50,601
there are a lot of concerns

4653
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:53,100
with budget and we do,

4654
02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:56,100
there are there is cause

4655
02:23:57,100 --> 02:23:59,100
for concern with budget. I do

4656
02:23:59,100 --> 02:24:00,100
think that it's good that we

4657
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:01,100
are setting up this audit

4658
02:24:01,100 --> 02:24:02,100
committee. I do think that will

4659
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:03,100
be kind of inject some kind

4660
02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:05,100
of closer attention

4661
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:07,100
into the matter.

4662
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:11,100
But I think the you know,

4663
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:13,100
I've said this on the dais

4664
02:24:13,100 --> 02:24:16,100
before and I've said it to city

4665
02:24:16,100 --> 02:24:18,100
administrator and city

4666
02:24:18,100 --> 02:24:20,401
treasurer and really everybody,

4667
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:23,100
that one of our big problems

4668
02:24:23,100 --> 02:24:25,100
in my estimate with the budget

4669
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:28,601
is that we never come close

4670
02:24:30,100 --> 02:24:33,100
to spending what we budget.

4671
02:24:34,100 --> 02:24:36,401
And so we're projecting

4672
02:24:38,100 --> 02:24:40,100
expenditures that exceed

4673
02:24:40,100 --> 02:24:42,401
revenues by significant amounts

4674
02:24:43,100 --> 02:24:45,401
and that doesn't materialize.

4675
02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:49,100
And I think a consequence of

4676
02:24:49,100 --> 02:24:50,100
that is that we don't have a

4677
02:24:50,100 --> 02:24:52,100
real accurate budget or idea

4678
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:55,100
of what we're really going

4679
02:24:55,100 --> 02:24:58,100
to spend. And it strikes me

4680
02:24:58,100 --> 02:25:00,100
that other jurisdictions may be

4681
02:25:00,100 --> 02:25:02,100
more accurate in forecasting

4682
02:25:02,100 --> 02:25:03,100
what they're spending

4683
02:25:03,100 --> 02:25:06,100
in a given year. So our

4684
02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:09,100
treasurer has said that he's

4685
02:25:10,100 --> 02:25:11,100
going to work on maybe giving

4686
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:13,100
us a more accurate and maybe

4687
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:15,100
this comes down

4688
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:16,100
to all department heads, too,

4689
02:25:16,100 --> 02:25:17,100
and what that budget looks

4690
02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:18,100
like,

4691
02:25:18,100 --> 02:25:20,100
but a more accurate reflection

4692
02:25:20,100 --> 02:25:23,100
of what our expenditures will

4693
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:25,100
be at the time that we're

4694
02:25:25,100 --> 02:25:28,601
in the budget cycle. The other

4695
02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:31,100
point or the other announcement

4696
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:34,100
I wanted to make March 1, 4

4697
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:38,100
to 6pm at the Mennonite

4698
02:25:39,100 --> 02:25:41,100
Hyattsville Mennonite Church.

4699
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:47,601
We're going to be screening a

4700
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:50,100
documentary film on the push

4701
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:52,100
for rent stabilization

4702
02:25:52,100 --> 02:25:54,100
at the county level. And then

4703
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:56,100
we're going

4704
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:58,100
to have a discussion

4705
02:25:58,100 --> 02:26:00,100
with panelists, including

4706
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:03,100
myself, on rent stabilization

4707
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:06,100
in Hyattsville and next steps

4708
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:08,100
to Knyatville. So of course,

4709
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:10,401
council members, city staff,

4710
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:14,100
you all be getting an invite

4711
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:15,100
from me. If you hadn't heard

4712
02:26:15,100 --> 02:26:16,100
about it,

4713
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:17,100
you're hearing it now. You'll

4714
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:18,100
probably hear more

4715
02:26:18,100 --> 02:26:20,100
about it. I encourage you

4716
02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:21,100
to come. It'll be shared,

4717
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:22,100
probably community table and.

4718
02:26:22,100 --> 02:26:24,100
>>It'Ll be.

4719
02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:28,100
>>East West Highway, 4 to 6pm

4720
02:26:28,100 --> 02:26:29,100
March 1.

4721
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:31,401
>>Thank you. Ms. Wasa.

4722
02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:38,100
>>Yeah, Mr. Shively fell off.

4723
02:26:39,100 --> 02:26:42,100
Okay. So I wanted to ask if we

4724
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:45,100
could focus a little bit more

4725
02:26:45,100 --> 02:26:46,100
on the upcoming council meeting

4726
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:48,100
that is

4727
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,100
about budget priorities. And I

4728
02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:51,100
know this is normally council

4729
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:53,100
dialogue when council talks,

4730
02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:57,201
but I wondered if I could ask

4731
02:26:58,100 --> 02:27:00,100
either our city administrator

4732
02:27:00,100 --> 02:27:03,100
or deputy city administrator to

4733
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:05,100
describe again the format that

4734
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:07,100
that meeting will take

4735
02:27:07,100 --> 02:27:08,100
to encourage residents

4736
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:09,100
to attend,

4737
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:11,100
because we've been getting a

4738
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:12,100
lot of inquiries

4739
02:27:12,100 --> 02:27:14,100
in our email and live

4740
02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:16,100
on the street when we go out

4741
02:27:16,100 --> 02:27:18,100
grocery shopping and such

4742
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:20,100
asking us about budget. So I

4743
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:22,100
wondered if you could just

4744
02:27:22,100 --> 02:27:24,100
Tell us again,

4745
02:27:24,100 --> 02:27:25,100
what will that meeting look

4746
02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:26,100
like if a resident were

4747
02:27:26,100 --> 02:27:27,100
to show up?

4748
02:27:27,100 --> 02:27:29,100
>>Well, to be honest

4749
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:30,100
with you, Ms. Walsack, this is

4750
02:27:30,100 --> 02:27:32,100
council dialogue. I'll allow

4751
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:34,100
Ms. Douglas, if she. If she

4752
02:27:34,100 --> 02:27:35,100
wants to give us the answer to

4753
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:37,100
that.

4754
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:40,100
>>Yes. I don't know if Laura is

4755
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:42,100
still on. She has. Who is going

4756
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:44,100
to speak. Speak each night. So

4757
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:46,100
I don't have that in front

4758
02:27:46,100 --> 02:27:48,100
of me, but essentially this

4759
02:27:48,100 --> 02:27:49,100
will be similar to the format

4760
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:50,100
that we did last time,

4761
02:27:50,100 --> 02:27:52,100
which is a roundtable format.

4762
02:27:52,100 --> 02:27:54,100
The feedback that we got from

4763
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:56,100
the council was that it was too

4764
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:57,100
much in one night. So,

4765
02:27:57,100 --> 02:27:59,100
for instance, you spend time

4766
02:27:59,100 --> 02:28:00,100
with DPW and then you spend

4767
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:02,401
time with police, Community

4768
02:28:03,100 --> 02:28:04,100
Services, and it was just

4769
02:28:04,100 --> 02:28:05,100
taking too long to try

4770
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:06,100
to ask all the questions,

4771
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:08,100
particularly as we had a lot

4772
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:09,100
of new people

4773
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:11,100
at that first one that we did,

4774
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:13,100
new council members. So this

4775
02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:16,100
time we're dividing the staff

4776
02:28:16,100 --> 02:28:18,100
up so that DPW and police will

4777
02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:20,100
be on two separate nights and

4778
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:22,100
they'll be at a table. And so

4779
02:28:22,100 --> 02:28:23,100
they will just talk

4780
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:25,100
about the priorities, the

4781
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:26,100
things that they are currently

4782
02:28:26,100 --> 02:28:27,100
working on,

4783
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:29,100
the things that are projected

4784
02:28:29,100 --> 02:28:32,601
to be or projected for FY26,

4785
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:35,100
and the goals and objectives

4786
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:37,100
of the department. So it's just

4787
02:28:37,100 --> 02:28:39,100
an opportunity

4788
02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:40,100
to ask a little more,

4789
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:41,100
a few more questions up,

4790
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:42,100
up close and personal

4791
02:28:42,100 --> 02:28:44,100
for the council. If residents

4792
02:28:44,100 --> 02:28:45,100
attend that meeting,

4793
02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:47,401
typically they are observing,

4794
02:28:48,100 --> 02:28:51,100
so they're not in the position

4795
02:28:51,100 --> 02:28:52,100
to ask the questions, but they

4796
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:55,100
can sit and observe and take

4797
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:57,100
notes. Laura, I don't recall

4798
02:28:57,100 --> 02:28:58,100
the dates and who's

4799
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:00,100
on which date. I know Laura is

4800
02:29:00,100 --> 02:29:01,100
working those details.

4801
02:29:01,100 --> 02:29:04,601
>>Yeah. So we have two budget

4802
02:29:05,100 --> 02:29:07,100
roundtable meetings. So the

4803
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:09,100
first will be on Monday,

4804
02:29:09,100 --> 02:29:11,100
February 24, and the way that

4805
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,100
we've split it up that night,

4806
02:29:12,100 --> 02:29:14,100
we will have dpw,

4807
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:15,100
but DPW focused

4808
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:16,100
on operations. So we're

4809
02:29:16,100 --> 02:29:17,100
actually splitting DPW

4810
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:19,100
on two different nights,

4811
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:20,100
operations one night and then

4812
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:21,100
projects the other night, just

4813
02:29:21,100 --> 02:29:23,100
to allow ample time

4814
02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:26,100
for conversation there. So that

4815
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:28,100
Monday we'll have DPW

4816
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:29,100
Operations, Community

4817
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:30,100
Services, Clerk Election and

4818
02:29:30,100 --> 02:29:32,100
Council Communications,

4819
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:35,100
Finance and Parking. So there

4820
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:37,100
will be the director for each

4821
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:38,100
of those departments, along

4822
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:39,100
with one or two

4823
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:41,100
of their employees able

4824
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:43,100
to speak to, you know,

4825
02:29:43,100 --> 02:29:44,100
what they're planning for, the

4826
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:46,100
budget,

4827
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:47,100
the projects that they have

4828
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:48,100
on their plate, all

4829
02:29:48,100 --> 02:29:50,100
of that kind of stuff. And then

4830
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:51,100
on Wednesday, February 26, we

4831
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:52,100
have the DPW projects

4832
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:55,100
on that night, the Police

4833
02:29:55,100 --> 02:29:57,100
Department, Community Business

4834
02:29:57,100 --> 02:29:58,100
and Economic Development, HR

4835
02:29:58,100 --> 02:30:00,100
and the Administration

4836
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:01,100
Department.

4837
02:30:01,100 --> 02:30:02,100
>>Thanks, Laura. So would it be

4838
02:30:02,100 --> 02:30:04,100
possible for you

4839
02:30:04,100 --> 02:30:05,100
to add those departments to the

4840
02:30:05,100 --> 02:30:07,100
page that's called

4841
02:30:10,100 --> 02:30:12,401
hyattsville.org 922finance so

4842
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:15,100
that people can look

4843
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:16,100
on there and kind

4844
02:30:16,100 --> 02:30:18,100
of see which departments are on

4845
02:30:18,100 --> 02:30:20,100
which night so that they can

4846
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:22,100
decide if they have to come

4847
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:24,100
to just one of those,

4848
02:30:24,100 --> 02:30:25,100
which night they would like to

4849
02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:26,100
come.

4850
02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:27,100
>>We sure can.

4851
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:28,100
>>Thank you very much. Yeah,

4852
02:30:28,100 --> 02:30:29,100
and I'm just looking forward to

4853
02:30:29,100 --> 02:30:30,100
seeing people there because

4854
02:30:30,100 --> 02:30:31,100
again, like council member

4855
02:30:31,100 --> 02:30:33,100
Redmond said,

4856
02:30:33,100 --> 02:30:34,100
it would be great to hear

4857
02:30:34,100 --> 02:30:35,100
specifically what people are

4858
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:36,100
interested in prioritizing

4859
02:30:36,100 --> 02:30:37,100
because as we know, a budget is

4860
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:38,100
a priority setting document.

4861
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:40,401
It's a strategic plan

4862
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:42,100
with numbers in it. So we

4863
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:44,100
really need

4864
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:45,100
to know what people want us

4865
02:30:45,100 --> 02:30:46,100
to focus on and what people do

4866
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:48,100
not want us

4867
02:30:48,100 --> 02:30:50,100
to focus on. I also wanted to

4868
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:52,100
acknowledge the young people

4869
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:54,100
who are working with waba,

4870
02:30:54,100 --> 02:30:56,100
the Washington association of

4871
02:30:56,100 --> 02:30:58,100
Bicyclists, to advocate

4872
02:30:58,100 --> 02:31:00,100
for bike racks at

4873
02:31:00,100 --> 02:31:01,100
Northwestern. The Youth

4874
02:31:01,100 --> 02:31:03,100
Advisory Council is really

4875
02:31:03,100 --> 02:31:04,100
interested in working

4876
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:06,100
with the WABA youth to try

4877
02:31:06,100 --> 02:31:08,100
to get bike racks at

4878
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:09,100
Northwestern. If you can

4879
02:31:09,100 --> 02:31:10,100
believe it,

4880
02:31:10,100 --> 02:31:11,100
we have a high school

4881
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:14,100
with no bike racks. So there

4882
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:16,100
are high schoolers who are

4883
02:31:16,100 --> 02:31:17,100
bravely riding their bikes

4884
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:18,100
for school and locking them

4885
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:20,100
to fence posts, poles and

4886
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:22,100
fences,

4887
02:31:23,100 --> 02:31:24,100
and they don't feel very secure

4888
02:31:24,100 --> 02:31:26,100
about where they're parking

4889
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:28,100
their bikes. So they would

4890
02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:29,100
really like if the adults could

4891
02:31:29,100 --> 02:31:32,601
get together and find a way,

4892
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:34,100
you know, from the city, pgcps,

4893
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:36,401
Northwestern, the county, and

4894
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:40,100
any community organizations

4895
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:41,100
that are interested

4896
02:31:41,100 --> 02:31:43,100
in getting some bike racks put

4897
02:31:43,100 --> 02:31:45,100
at the high school. So I just

4898
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:47,100
wanted to acknowledge Dan

4899
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:49,100
Barron, a resident who brought

4900
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:50,100
this to our attention because

4901
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:52,100
he heard the young people

4902
02:31:52,100 --> 02:31:53,100
talking about it. And I wanted

4903
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:54,100
to acknowledge the Youth

4904
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:56,100
Advisory Council members

4905
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:57,100
for kind

4906
02:31:57,100 --> 02:31:58,100
of putting an exclamation point

4907
02:31:58,100 --> 02:32:00,100
at the end of that request.

4908
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:01,100
They do, in fact, see a need

4909
02:32:01,100 --> 02:32:02,100
for safer,

4910
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:03,100
more secure bike parking. They

4911
02:32:03,100 --> 02:32:04,100
do see a need for that parking

4912
02:32:04,100 --> 02:32:06,100
to be in a centrally

4913
02:32:06,100 --> 02:32:08,401
conveniently located spot or

4914
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:12,100
spots on campus so that they

4915
02:32:12,100 --> 02:32:14,100
can get quickly to class. And

4916
02:32:14,100 --> 02:32:16,100
in addition to that,

4917
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:17,100
I know we talked a lot about

4918
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:18,100
road maintenance and road

4919
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:19,100
projects tonight. They would

4920
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:21,100
like to see better bike

4921
02:32:21,100 --> 02:32:22,100
infrastructure near their

4922
02:32:22,100 --> 02:32:24,100
school and a better speed limit

4923
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,100
similar to what they have over

4924
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:27,100
by the College Park Academy.

4925
02:32:27,100 --> 02:32:29,100
If you have not been

4926
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:32,100
over there in Riverdale park,

4927
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:34,100
please take some time

4928
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:35,100
to walk, bike or drive over

4929
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:37,100
by College Park Academy and see

4930
02:32:37,100 --> 02:32:39,100
the incredible walking and

4931
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:41,100
biking infrastructure and the

4932
02:32:41,100 --> 02:32:42,100
livable speed limit that they

4933
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:44,100
have set over there. It really

4934
02:32:44,100 --> 02:32:45,100
is encouraging young people

4935
02:32:45,100 --> 02:32:46,100
to walk and bike

4936
02:32:46,100 --> 02:32:48,100
to school.

4937
02:32:48,100 --> 02:32:51,100
>>Thanks, Ms. Wasa. You know,

4938
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:54,100
it might be an interesting

4939
02:32:55,100 --> 02:32:57,100
thing that when the, when the

4940
02:32:57,100 --> 02:32:58,100
committee comes together and

4941
02:32:58,100 --> 02:32:59,100
they have have thoughts

4942
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,100
like this, that they can

4943
02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:01,100
actually make a presentation

4944
02:33:01,100 --> 02:33:02,100
to the council

4945
02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:03,100
at some point.

4946
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:04,100
>>Yes, that would be great.

4947
02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:06,100
>>Mr. Salman, thank you.

4948
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:09,100
>>I just, I wanted to. I didn't

4949
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:10,100
get a chance

4950
02:33:10,100 --> 02:33:11,100
to say thank you to. To

4951
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:13,100
Officer Hernandez. Her

4952
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:15,100
accomplishments were mentioned

4953
02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:16,100
earlier. I. I felt

4954
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:17,100
like we should

4955
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:18,100
at least recognize her

4956
02:33:18,100 --> 02:33:20,100
on the dayas. But also I want

4957
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:22,100
to say thank you to Lisa

4958
02:33:22,100 --> 02:33:25,100
Walker, Hap and the Girl

4959
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:27,100
Scouts who dropped off.

4960
02:33:27,100 --> 02:33:28,100
>>You got your cookies. We

4961
02:33:28,100 --> 02:33:30,100
can't see it.

4962
02:33:30,100 --> 02:33:31,100
>>Yes, there we go. I gotta

4963
02:33:31,100 --> 02:33:32,100
shake it up. It's AI.

4964
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:33,100
>>It goes.

4965
02:33:33,100 --> 02:33:35,100
>>It goes.

4966
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:36,100
>>Google campaign.

4967
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:38,401
>>They dropped off Valentine's

4968
02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:40,100
treats for the council

4969
02:33:40,100 --> 02:33:42,100
at the city building. So if you

4970
02:33:42,100 --> 02:33:43,100
haven't stopped by

4971
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:44,100
to get yours, I'd say get it.

4972
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:45,100
This was my dinner tonight as I

4973
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:46,100
sat

4974
02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:47,100
through the council meeting,

4975
02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:49,100
so it did go to great use.

4976
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:50,100
But thank you for thinking

4977
02:33:50,100 --> 02:33:52,100
of us this Valentine's day.

4978
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:54,401
>>Very good, Ms. Drop.

4979
02:33:55,100 --> 02:33:57,100
>>Thank you. So I wanted

4980
02:33:57,100 --> 02:33:58,100
to thank all

4981
02:33:58,100 --> 02:34:01,100
of the residents who reached

4982
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:02,100
out to inquire or to apply

4983
02:34:02,100 --> 02:34:05,100
to the audit committee. So

4984
02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:07,100
hopefully those applications

4985
02:34:07,100 --> 02:34:09,100
are rolling in. I can't wait

4986
02:34:09,100 --> 02:34:10,100
to read all

4987
02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:11,100
of them.

4988
02:34:11,100 --> 02:34:12,100
>>So.

4989
02:34:12,100 --> 02:34:13,100
>>Gotten a lot

4990
02:34:13,100 --> 02:34:14,100
of calls and emails. So

4991
02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:15,100
hopefully we'll be getting that

4992
02:34:15,100 --> 02:34:16,100
committee off the ground soon

4993
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:18,100
since that term 2023 audit is

4994
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:20,100
imminent.

4995
02:34:20,100 --> 02:34:22,100
>>So I don't think I've ever

4996
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:23,100
been so excited for such a big

4997
02:34:23,100 --> 02:34:24,100
document.

4998
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:25,100
>>That I had to read with so

4999
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:27,100
many numbers.

5000
02:34:27,100 --> 02:34:30,100
>>But there, there we are.

5001
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:32,401
>>That's my boring midlife

5002
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:34,100
right now. But anyway, so,

5003
02:34:34,100 --> 02:34:36,100
yeah, thank you everybody for,

5004
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:38,100
for being so involved and I do

5005
02:34:38,100 --> 02:34:40,100
really hope that we get

5006
02:34:40,100 --> 02:34:41,100
residents coming

5007
02:34:41,100 --> 02:34:42,100
to those sessions at,

5008
02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:44,100
on the 24th and the 26th

5009
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:46,100
at 7pm to, you know,

5010
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:48,100
to help us through this, this

5011
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:49,100
budget process.

5012
02:34:49,100 --> 02:34:50,100
>>So that's all.

5013
02:34:50,100 --> 02:34:51,100
>>Thank you.

5014
02:34:51,100 --> 02:34:52,100
>>Thank you, Ms. Treb. Mr.

5015
02:34:52,100 --> 02:34:54,100
Harbor.

5016
02:34:55,100 --> 02:34:56,100
>>Yes, thank you. I'm going

5017
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:57,100
to start

5018
02:34:57,100 --> 02:34:58,100
by saying the same thing

5019
02:34:58,100 --> 02:35:00,100
Consul Member Salman said

5020
02:35:00,100 --> 02:35:01,100
earlier. Thank you, Ms.

5021
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:03,100
Walker. And the Girl Scout for

5022
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:05,100
the cookies. I have not pick up

5023
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:07,100
mine yet,

5024
02:35:07,100 --> 02:35:08,100
but don't eat cookies

5025
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:10,100
for dinner. Okay, you can have

5026
02:35:10,100 --> 02:35:12,100
them for this. So

5027
02:35:12,100 --> 02:35:14,401
on a serious note,

5028
02:35:16,100 --> 02:35:17,100
I heard a lot of comments

5029
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:18,100
about budget. Yes, we need

5030
02:35:18,100 --> 02:35:20,100
to work on that. We need

5031
02:35:20,100 --> 02:35:22,100
to be realistic. The one thing

5032
02:35:22,100 --> 02:35:24,100
I can say, you know,

5033
02:35:24,100 --> 02:35:26,401
probably I heard Council

5034
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:29,401
Member Shabli's comment. I

5035
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:33,100
wouldn't say that it's the

5036
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:34,100
Treasury's fault that we don't

5037
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:36,100
get the numbers accurate

5038
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:37,100
because most of the time what

5039
02:35:37,100 --> 02:35:39,100
the treasurer is doing is

5040
02:35:39,100 --> 02:35:40,100
plugging in things. So what I

5041
02:35:40,100 --> 02:35:42,100
will do here is just kind of

5042
02:35:42,100 --> 02:35:44,401
like invite our department

5043
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:46,100
to really focus

5044
02:35:46,100 --> 02:35:48,100
on what they can chew on

5045
02:35:48,100 --> 02:35:51,100
because I have the feeling that

5046
02:35:51,100 --> 02:35:53,100
sometimes we plan for a lot of

5047
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:54,100
projects and we don't have the

5048
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:56,100
manpower

5049
02:35:56,100 --> 02:35:58,100
to execute those projects. So

5050
02:35:58,100 --> 02:36:00,100
be realistic as you identify

5051
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:02,100
your priorities. And that also

5052
02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:05,100
goes to us council members.

5053
02:36:06,100 --> 02:36:08,100
Let's be honest

5054
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:09,100
with our proposal,

5055
02:36:09,100 --> 02:36:11,100
with things that we want staff

5056
02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:13,100
to work on and really see. Can

5057
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:16,100
all of these be accomplished

5058
02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:18,100
within the next 12 months?

5059
02:36:18,100 --> 02:36:20,100
Considering existing projects

5060
02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:21,100
that are already there,

5061
02:36:21,100 --> 02:36:24,100
maybe this could be the year

5062
02:36:24,100 --> 02:36:27,100
to kind of like have a freeze

5063
02:36:27,100 --> 02:36:29,100
on new project and just try

5064
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:31,100
to see what we can do

5065
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:34,100
to clear the existing backlog

5066
02:36:34,100 --> 02:36:36,401
of project. Let's think

5067
02:36:37,100 --> 02:36:39,100
about that. Aside from that,

5068
02:36:39,100 --> 02:36:42,100
let's continue to stand with

5069
02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:45,100
our neighbors who might be

5070
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:47,100
experiencing difficult times,

5071
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:49,100
job related,

5072
02:36:49,100 --> 02:36:51,401
immigration status related. We

5073
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:54,100
are a caring community. Let's

5074
02:36:54,100 --> 02:36:56,401
make sure that everything,

5075
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:59,100
everyone is welcome here and

5076
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:00,100
then we stand with them. Thank

5077
02:37:00,100 --> 02:37:02,100
you.

5078
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:04,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Harbour. And I

5079
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:07,100
would like to thank all

5080
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:09,100
of you and especially our staff

5081
02:37:09,100 --> 02:37:10,100
for the amazing work that you

5082
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:13,100
do day in and day out

5083
02:37:13,100 --> 02:37:15,100
for our city. And I want

5084
02:37:15,100 --> 02:37:18,100
to just like Ms. Strapp just

5085
02:37:18,100 --> 02:37:20,100
mentioned, encourage everyone

5086
02:37:21,100 --> 02:37:23,100
to come on the 20, 24th and the

5087
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:25,100
26th to hear how their money

5088
02:37:25,100 --> 02:37:27,100
has actually been being spent

5089
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:30,100
and what the projects are that

5090
02:37:30,100 --> 02:37:31,100
they're being spent on. And

5091
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:33,100
like Mr. Harbour just

5092
02:37:33,100 --> 02:37:35,100
mentioned, you know,

5093
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:36,100
there are. We have some tough

5094
02:37:36,100 --> 02:37:38,100
things going on

5095
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:39,100
in our country right now,

5096
02:37:39,100 --> 02:37:40,100
and we're going to probably

5097
02:37:40,100 --> 02:37:41,100
experience some tough times

5098
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:43,100
in the near future. So it's a

5099
02:37:43,100 --> 02:37:45,401
time for us understanding,

5100
02:37:46,100 --> 02:37:48,401
but not grandstanding. Okay?

5101
02:37:49,100 --> 02:37:51,100
So let's all just do what we

5102
02:37:51,100 --> 02:37:53,100
can to understand how things go

5103
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:54,100
and understand how each other

5104
02:37:54,100 --> 02:37:56,100
think. And we work together

5105
02:37:56,100 --> 02:37:58,100
with our community. So thank

5106
02:37:58,100 --> 02:38:00,100
you very much. Can I get a

5107
02:38:00,100 --> 02:38:01,100
motion to adjourn, please?

5108
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:02,100
>>Don't move.

5109
02:38:02,100 --> 02:38:04,100
>>Second.

5110
02:38:04,100 --> 02:38:05,100
>>It's been moved. It's been

5111
02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:07,100
seconded. All in favor?

5112
02:38:07,100 --> 02:38:10,100
Anybody opposed to this? Are

5113
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:14,401
there any extensions? Okay.

5114
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:17,100
Good night. Hyattsville.