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>> Thank you. Good evening,

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everyone, and welcome

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to the first council meeting

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of the new council. Ms.

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>>[CALLING ROLL]

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>> Mayor, you have a quorum.

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>> Thank you, Ms. Taylor.

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Okay, let's do the Pledge of

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Allegiance again today.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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Flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic

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for which it stands, one

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Nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Can I have a motion

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to approve the agenda,

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please?

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> Been moved and seconded.

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All in favor?

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>> Aye.

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>> Any opposed? Any Abstentions?

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Seeing none,

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the ayes have it. Public

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>> We will go to the attendees.

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If you'd like

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to make a public comment,

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please use the raised hand

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feature now. You will have two

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your name and the ward that you

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live in. We'll start with

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Melissa Schweisgoth. Melissa,

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to unmute yourself.

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>> Good evening,

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mayor and council. Can you hear

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me?

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>> Yes, we can.

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>> Great. So welcome

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to our new councilors. We're

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really excited

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for the new energy to come to

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the council and you all ran

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great campaigns. I appreciate

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that. Very positive. My name is

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Melissa Schweizekuth. I live

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in Ward 5. Wanted

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to speak very quickly in the

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West Hyattsville Corner

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Queens Chapel sector plan and

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sma. I understand you're

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getting a presentation this

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evening. And my understanding

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is that the county,

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the city will. Then the council

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will recommend some comments

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that the city will send. I did

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want to flag the upzoning that

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they're proposing to change

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every single RSF65 property

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to RSFA,

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which means that right now,

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properties that have only one

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home on them would be able

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to put up to three, you know,

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a townhouse, a three unit

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townhouse, or a triplex, or

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possibly two houses. I don't

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oppose that for my property,

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but it is a really big change.

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I think Hyattsville really

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needs to think

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about the impacts. And

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Hyattsville did ask the county

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to do a missing middle study

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and they did one,

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but it didn't look

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at the impacts. So you might

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if you really do want that

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study to look

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at how much this will impact

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infrastructure,

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really push them

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to do that study. Before they

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to implement, I would like to

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see it be optional. I am a

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little concerned that it's

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to raise my property taxes,

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it'll increase the land value

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about that that impact

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on others getting priced out.

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mitigating gentrification and

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pricing out of the market,

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but really none

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of those are realistic. So I

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hope that we can really push

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on the county to have more

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of an implementation plan

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around there so we don't see

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displacement as a result

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on the street lights,

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to LED. I would like to see the

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city do this as a competitive

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bid, not necessarily go with

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the contractor that did the

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study and is provides a

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service. And please make sure

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that these are dark

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sky compliant

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like the lights that we put

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on the trolley trail. Thank

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you. Have a great night.

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>> Back to the attendees. If

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Marshall. I live in Ward 4. I

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wanted to say welcome to the

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new council members. I hope

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that you have a very productive

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four years in your new

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positions. I am not going

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about the sector plan because

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in my opinion it's useless.

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to go forward

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with it and we're going

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to be stuck

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with is how I see it. And you

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know, it is what it is. So I

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won't beat that dead horse.

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happens to be the elections.

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The city elections.

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My family and I,

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if you go look

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at the records, did not vote

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in the last two elections

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in this city. One, we were

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moved from the ward we were in

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to Ward 4. This would be the

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second time our ward was

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changed which essentially our

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previous vote we voted for.

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thrown away because we got

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thrown out of our ward. Also,

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each ward has two council

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members. I can seem

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to only communicate with one

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of my council members. The

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other one won't have a

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conversation with me. So I

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like I'm represented. So why

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bother casting a vote? Thanks

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the raised hand feature. Kurt

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>> Good afternoon, council

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members. This My name is Kurt

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I agree with what Melissa

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that basically takes care of my

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spiel right there. I do want

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if the prices are going

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to go up or if the prices for

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the lots or our houses are

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going to go down when they

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start implementing the sector

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plan. That is not clear. I have

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not seen it addressed in the

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521 pages they provided. If it

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being old and retired,

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I don't care. I'm going

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to die here. But for the young

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people that this is their main

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investment,

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that could be a real hit

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on their fund. So I hope

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somebody's looking

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at that and I hope that this,

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the county and the city

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understand that prices aren't

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is a good question

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to ask and also to relay

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to some of the younger folks

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around here. Thank you.

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you'd like to make a comment,

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Pat Padua, you should be able

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>> Thank you. Good evening,

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councilmembers. My name is

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Pat Padua. I'm in Ward 3, which

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I an unincorporated part

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of the area,

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which I believe is not

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under the jurisdiction

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of the city of Hyattsville.

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about the rezoning proposal.

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of the proposal, Avondale

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Grove, which is the

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neighborhood where I live

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in and of which I'm president

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of the citizens Association.

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Pardon the dogs. Avondale

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of the original plan. And

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in draft three,

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it has suddenly become part

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of the plan. Now, we don't know

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why the city of Hyattsville

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has added Avondale Grove

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without any

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of our residents input

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into this rezoning plan. And

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I've spoken to my neighbors and

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fellow members of the board and

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we're all roundly opposed

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to it for a variety

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of reasons. Safety, historical,

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infrastructure,

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environmental. I could go on,

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but I only have a few minutes.

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to express our opposition

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to being part of this plan.

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Heightsville. Avondale Grove is

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a charming,

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unique community and we want to

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preserve its quality and its

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safety for residents who are

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aging and the young families

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coming into the neighborhood.

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>> Back to the attendees. Last

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call for anybody that would

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to make a public comment,

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please use the raised hand

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feature. Sharon Stokes, you

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should be able

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>> Hey, my name is Rossell

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Durant. I'm under calling

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under Sharon Stokes,

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but I live in the area of

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Avondale Terrace. Mr. Padua

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mentioned Avondale Grove,

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but there's also Avondale

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Terrace and North Woodridge.

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in the change

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to the sector plan. And I ditto

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everything that he said

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regarding this. We were not

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included in the discussion as

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far as I know of. I happen

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to be president of the Avon

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Ridge CDC,

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which is a sister organization

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to Mr. Padua's organization.

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So everything he said, I

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ditto but I wanted to make.

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He mentioned Avondale Grove. I

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wanted to mention Avondale

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Terrace in addition to North

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Woodridge. Thank you.

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>> Back to the attendees. If

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you'd like to make a comment,

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please use the raised hand

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feature. Seeing none. That

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concludes public comment.

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>> Thank you. Mr. Groenendyk. I

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don't think that we added any

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additional territory to

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Hyattville, did we? Mr.

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Solomon, did you have a comment

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to me?

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>> We did not. But the planning

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board.

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For council members and staff,

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Avondale is the neighborhood

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that sits between us and the

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District of Columbia and I

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thank their members

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for attending tonight.

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But it's not the city of

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Hyattsville who has added

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additional portions

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of your community because

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Avondale was always included

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in the sector plan update. The

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planning board and the. This

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would be the planning board and

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the district council who has

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expanded what they. What they

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need to look at. So the person

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that you would need to speak

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to is Councilwoman Fisher

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in order to resolve the

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discrepancies that you have

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Hyattsville.

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But we're just responding

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to what they sent to us. We

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don't make the changes

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around what areas

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are included. We just talk

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about the areas that are

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specific to Hyattsville

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in the map. Thank you.

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>> Thank you

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for that clarification. Ms.

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Douglas, you're up.

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>> Okay, thank you. Mayor and

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council and residents,

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welcome. I'm going

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to share my screen.

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Are you seeing that?

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>> Yes, we got it.

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>> Okay, good. All right,

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I'm going to move

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through this fairly quickly, so

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this is the agenda that I will

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follow. Just pull this over. I

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do want to once again,

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and I know you've heard it a

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few times, but I want to

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welcome our new councilmembers.

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They were sworn

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in this afternoon. Tracy, can

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you fix your screen?

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>> Yeah. We're seeing resume

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slideshow.

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>> You're not seeing the

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slideshow?

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>> Nope.

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>> Now we are.

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>> Oh, okay. All right. So am I

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on? Let's see. All right, how

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about now? You seeing the new

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councilmembers?

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>> We got it.

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>> All right, so these are the

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new councilmembers that were

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sworn in today. Councilmember

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Barnes for Ward 1.

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Councilmember Dhokai, Ward 3.

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Councilmember Nisbett from

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Ward 5. Those are the new

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councilmembers. And we want

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to welcome back councilmember

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Strab and councilmember Haba.

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Councilmember Schaible, Ward 2

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and Haba, Ward 4. Ladies and

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gentlemen, this is your new

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city council. I want

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to just acknowledge Ms.

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Dorothy Mims, who

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lives in Independence court.

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She is 112 years old this

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month,

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and she's been a resident of

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Hyattsville since 2010, the

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oldest living resident

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in the state of Maryland.

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Her mother, in fact,

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lived to be 102. So I just want

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to acknowledge her and let her

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know that we're happy

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to have her here in

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Hyattsville. And mayor and

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council members, we may go

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by and visit Ms. Mims.

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But isn't she beautiful? Look

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at that. When she was younger.

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We're just happy to have her.

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She's still beautiful. All

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right. Leslie is stepping down.

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Leslie's been serving on mml.

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She's been the MML league and

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most recently president

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for the last seven years. She

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decided not to run

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for re election.

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But you'll see here some of the

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things that she actually helped

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lead as many

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of the other cities in

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Maryland through COVID,

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Snowstorms, political

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landscapes, heat waves. She's

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done a lot. It is time for her

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to step down. So they will be

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acknowledging her

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at this upcoming MML session.

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But she's been an asset

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to them. And so we thank

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Leslie

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for representing the city of

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Hyattsville and all of her.

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All of our municipal partners

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in the state of Maryland. We

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also want to acknowledge that

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they hosted a DPW open house.

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And so we thank them

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for doing that. You can see two

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of our council members riding

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in our trash trucks. I think

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that's one

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of our newest trash trucks.

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And you know,

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the guys just had it. Guys and

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ladies just had a great time

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out there that day.

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It was a rainy day. But we do

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appreciate council member,

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Dr. And Councilor Redmond

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participating and coming

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out the visit. Long

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awaited. We finally got that

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sign up. Ward wards 4 and 5.

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We now have a sign right

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over there by Kaiser

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Permanente. The residents

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in that area will now be able

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to find out what's going on

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in the city of Hyattsville. So

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stay tuned for any updates.

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Our K9 did some great work.

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Hugo and Forest, we have two of

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them and they won first place

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awards. They were the best

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of the best. And you know,

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we continue

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to have our K9s place. So we're

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always really excited. It's

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Corporal Hodges and Acting

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Sergeant Quevedo who are their

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partners and trainers. So we're

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just really proud

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of our two K9s. And we just had

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a police unity tour. Scott

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Hurley rides

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in that every year. He's done

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that for the past 13 years

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over 250 mile ride with people

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from across the region. And so

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we just want to thank him

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for doing that. He does that

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in honor of fallen officers and

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specifically rides

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for our own fallen officers,

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Corporal Robert King, who

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passed away in. Who died in

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1984 in the line of duty

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on a motorcycle. Chief, if you

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were on. I'll let you talk

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about this. I asked Chief

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to talk about this just a

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little bit because whenever we

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contract with an agency and

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they're doing great work

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for us, I just want you all to

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know how they're representing

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our community. JP there.

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>> Yes, ma' am. Sorry about

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that. I'm having a computer

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issue over here. So Kathy is an

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organization that council

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approved a contract with that

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provides victim services to

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police departments throughout

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the county. They are tied

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into our CAD and RMS system.

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So they receive automatic

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reports from our RMS once

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our officers file a report.

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And then they contact victims

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of crimes to make sure that

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they have the resources they

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need, ranging from housing,

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mental health resources,

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assistance

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with financial fraud, things

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of that nature. So so far,

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for the first quarter of

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2025, they had 65 referrals.

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They break that down. The

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average age of a victim was 33

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years old. You can see there

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was a little bit more. That

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number's a little bit higher on

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the female versus male victims.

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And then the crimes that

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they contacted victims were

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for assault, financial fraud,

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domestic incidents, robbery,

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rape and sexual assault and

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carjacking, with domestic

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incidents and assaults being

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the highest and then also

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sexual assaults. They provide a

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report back to us

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for the quarter. This is the

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first time we're receiving a

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quarterly report that we can

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share with with the community

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that shows the types

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of crimes that the victims are.

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The types of crimes that

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victims are being receiving

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services from Cafey. I believe

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that's it.

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>> Yeah. Thank you. And I just

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thought it was important

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for you all

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to hear a little bit about that

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because we've always been

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concerned that if a person is a

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victim

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of crime that we follow up

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with them, make sure they're

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getting the resources and the

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help that they need. So this is

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one of the programs that you

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all allowed us to partner

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with and contract with

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to do that for our community.

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So I just wanted you to hear

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that they are doing

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great work here

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in the community. Okay. And

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then we had a community

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conversation last week,

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last Thursday, I believe it

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was. The title was Bridging

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Faith through Interfaith

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Engagement. And we had five,

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as you can see there, five

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different religious leaders

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that came together and spoke

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Hindu Buddha, Rabbi, our own

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pastor, Penn Islam. It

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was a really good conversation.

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They really, they focused

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on what things we have

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in common, regardless

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of the faith.

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How are we alike

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00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,100
in more ways than not? And so

586
00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:42,100
we appreciate our partners.

587
00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:44,100
It's Kelly Barillo, Julia

588
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:46,100
Gaspar Bates, and Ann Claire

589
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,100
Stacy who are the ones that

590
00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:49,100
always put that together

591
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,100
for us and host these. And they

592
00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:51,100
come up

593
00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:52,100
with the topics and work

594
00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:54,100
with our own Shakira Louimar

595
00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:55,100
to pull these

596
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:57,100
off and make these happen.

597
00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:59,100
Okay. And then I want

598
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to thank members

599
00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:01,100
of the community and some

600
00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:02,100
of our council members. You can

601
00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:03,100
see councilmember Waszczak

602
00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:05,100
there who participated

603
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,100
in interviewing some

604
00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,100
of our young adults. Young, our

605
00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,401
youth 16. Sandra, correct me,

606
00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:13,100
I think it's 15 through 18

607
00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:15,100
members that we would like

608
00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,100
to be part of our youth

609
00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:18,100
Advisory Council. They

610
00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:19,100
participated

611
00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:20,100
in our leadership program. And

612
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:21,100
so then we just kind of sit

613
00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,100
down and talk to them and

614
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,100
determine if they are the right

615
00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,100
group to actually lead us

616
00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,100
for the next year. So I

617
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:28,100
appreciate everyone that

618
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,100
participated and helped us make

619
00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,100
the selections and

620
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,100
help the kids learn how to

621
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:34,100
interview and answer questions

622
00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:37,100
and take on some leadership

623
00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:38,100
responsibility. Sandra,

624
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:40,100
am I missing anything there?

625
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:42,100
>> No, ma' am.

626
00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,100
>> Thank you

627
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,100
to your team, for doing that.

628
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,100
And then they also did the

629
00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:49,100
Aging and Wellness Lunch and

630
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,100
Learn Workshop. And that was

631
00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:55,100
the, that was for seniors. So

632
00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:56,100
we call that Aging and

633
00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:58,100
Wellness Programs. But they did

634
00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,100
a Dawn Taft, our resident

635
00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,100
arborist, spoke to the seniors

636
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,100
about environmental programs

637
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,100
and some of the things that the

638
00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:05,100
city offers. And then tomorrow

639
00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:07,100
we'll have the Art Home is

640
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:09,100
Art Class, and it'll be the

641
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:11,100
last class for that. But that

642
00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:12,100
always gets a really great

643
00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:13,100
turnout. And our seniors love

644
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,100
coming out and working

645
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,100
on art projects. So we'll

646
00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,100
resume again after the

647
00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,100
summer. Back to

648
00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,100
School Supply Drive and

649
00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:23,100
Summer Jam. So Summer Jams,

650
00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,100
this is the schedule. So we'll

651
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,100
have the Back to School

652
00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,100
Supply Drive on August 15th.

653
00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:30,100
So that's just a reminder that

654
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,100
people can begin dropping

655
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,100
off donations now

656
00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,100
until the end of, until August

657
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,601
15th. And then our Summer Jam

658
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,100
series. The schedule is the

659
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,100
Pride Month celebration.

660
00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,100
That's on June 20th. Then we

661
00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:46,100
have a backyard barbecue.

662
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,100
That's going to be July 28th.

663
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,100
Sorry, July 18th, right here

664
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,100
at the city Building. And then

665
00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,100
International Heritage,

666
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,100
Hispanic heritage. That'll be

667
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:55,100
September 19th. August is

668
00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,100
missing there, as you can see.

669
00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:58,100
But that is usually National

670
00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:00,100
Night Out. So we,

671
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:02,100
we focus there on National

672
00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,100
Night Out. And that's also

673
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,100
going

674
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:08,100
to be the time that we're going

675
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,100
to be doing the back

676
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:12,100
to school drive. And our teen

677
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,100
center is really coming along.

678
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,100
The interior is looking

679
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,100
absolutely fabulous. They've

680
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:21,100
done some painting in there.

681
00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:22,100
They put in the new floors and

682
00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:24,100
walls which look really,

683
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,100
looking really good. And then

684
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,100
the equipment's installed

685
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:28,100
around the outside. They

686
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,100
started working

687
00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:30,100
on the park outside. So it's

688
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,100
looking good. If you have a

689
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,100
chance to drive by, you'll see

690
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,100
some, some really nice things

691
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:35,100
happening out there. So we're

692
00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:36,100
getting excited. I am not going

693
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,100
to read all of the offerings

694
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,100
this time because as you know,

695
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:40,100
we have a six week break

696
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:41,100
after this. And so it is a lot

697
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:42,100
of reading. So I will read the

698
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,100
weekly offerings. Just remind

699
00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:44,100
everyone we have the seated

700
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:45,100
exercise class

701
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:46,100
for older adults. We have the

702
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,100
Zumba class, that both

703
00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:49,100
of those are on Mondays. I'm

704
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,100
sorry, Monday and Wednesday

705
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,100
for the Zumba. And the exercise

706
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,100
classes on Wednesdays only

707
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,100
from 10 to 11. That's seated

708
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,100
for older adults. And then the

709
00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,100
digital literacy instruction

710
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,100
classes are on Wednesdays as

711
00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,100
well from 12

712
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,100
to 1pm all.

713
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:03,100
This is what I mean

714
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,100
about reading. It's a lot. So

715
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,100
these are all of the committees

716
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:08,100
that are coming up

717
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,100
for the residents. These will

718
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,100
all be posted online. And if

719
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,100
you have any questions and you

720
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:13,100
have a problem finding these or

721
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,100
looking online, feel free to

722
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,100
call our number and we can talk

723
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,100
to you about it then. And we

724
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,100
always put out notices, so if

725
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:21,100
you're not getting our text

726
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,100
alerts, please sign up

727
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:24,100
for those. And here's some more

728
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:25,100
upcoming events. I'm just going

729
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:27,100
to scan through these and see

730
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,100
if there's any Community

731
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:30,100
Shred Day. I do want

732
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,401
to acknowledge that that's

733
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,100
Saturday, September 7th. We

734
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,100
have not had that in a while,

735
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,100
Ward 1. I also will acknowledge

736
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,100
that one. That's the

737
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:43,100
Saturday, June 7th. That's the

738
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,100
check in. We will likely have a

739
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,100
walk and talk. The first one

740
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,100
this month, that will be with

741
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,100
Ward 2. But we'll get back

742
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,100
to everyone with the date

743
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:52,100
of that. And you'll see that

744
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:53,100
seniors on the go are also

745
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:55,100
having a cookout on June 10th.

746
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,100
And so you see some other

747
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,100
things. There's a traffic

748
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,100
calming public hearing and

749
00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:03,100
let's see, that's on June 11th.

750
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,100
Okay. And let me go

751
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:06,100
to the next one.

752
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,100
But there's a lot going on. So

753
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:09,100
all of this again is listed on

754
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,100
our website. I just don't want

755
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100
to go through it all.

756
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,100
I will acknowledge the

757
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:16,100
Trolley Trail Day that's on

758
00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:18,100
Saturday, June 14th. And then

759
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,100
staycation registration opens

760
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,100
today and it's going to go

761
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,100
through June 17th. So if you're

762
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,401
interested in signing up

763
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,100
for that, there's some early

764
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,100
dismissal camps Juneteenth.

765
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,100
Our offices are closed

766
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:31,100
on that day. That's June 19th.

767
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:32,100
>> So, Ms. Douglas.

768
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,100
>> Yes.

769
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,100
>> When is Community Shred?

770
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:38,100
>> Let me go right back to that

771
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,100
because I'm sorry I moved.

772
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,100
Let's see. Community Shred day

773
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,401
is Saturday, June 7th.

774
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,100
>> Okay.

775
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,100
>> I thought you said

776
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,100
September.

777
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,100
>> I hope I didn't,

778
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:06,100
but if I did, I do apologize

779
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,100
for that. Saturday, June 7,

780
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:09,100
from 10 to 1pm that's

781
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:10,100
Community Shred Day.

782
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,100
>> Thank you.

783
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:13,100
>> Okay. You're welcome. Let's

784
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,100
see. Business license renewal,

785
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,100
Monday the 30th and parking,

786
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,100
residential parking permits

787
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,100
for Zone 4 is also

788
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:19,100
on the 30th. Again, these will

789
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,100
all be listed on the website so

790
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:23,100
you can find them. And then my

791
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,100
last slide. I do want

792
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,100
to wish several members of the

793
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,100
staff and council a very happy

794
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100
birthday. They will celebrate

795
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,100
their birthdays while we're

796
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,100
going. Director Riddle just had

797
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,100
her birthday this past

798
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
Saturday. Council member

799
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,100
Redmond, June 18. Council

800
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:39,100
member Barnes, June 26. Chief

801
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,100
of police is on July 1. Our own

802
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,100
deputy city clerk is July 7.

803
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100
And our deputy chief

804
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,100
of police is July 16. All these

805
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,100
before we meet again. So I do

806
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,100
want

807
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,100
to just acknowledge that. And

808
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,100
mayor and council, that is it

809
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,100
for me. I'm going

810
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,100
to stop share in case you have

811
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,100
any questions.

812
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,401
>> Thank you. Colleagues, any

813
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,100
questions? Mr. Schaible?

814
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:07,100
>> Yeah, there was one event on

815
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,100
the calendar that I wasn't

816
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:10,100
familiar with. I think it said

817
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:12,100
43rd street meeting on 43rd

818
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,100
in Jefferson. It was tomorrow.

819
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:18,100
Do you have more details

820
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,100
on what that event is?

821
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,100
>> Leslie, do you have that

822
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,100
one?

823
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,100
>> It's a traffic calming

824
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,100
meeting with the residents.

825
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,100
There was a petition there,

826
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,100
as far as I know.

827
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,100
>> We've had a couple meetings

828
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:36,100
with residents.

829
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,100
>> We've had lots of meetings

830
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,100
over the last three weeks,

831
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,100
I would say.

832
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,100
But this one is tomorrow from

833
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,100
at 6pm and it's the

834
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,100
intersection Jefferson and

835
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,100
43rd.

836
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,401
>> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?

837
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,401
>> Thank you. Happy belated

838
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,100
birthday to our DPW director.

839
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,100
And I will give you the gift

840
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,100
of a question

841
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
for all these traffic meetings.

842
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,100
What is the plan? I know there

843
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:08,100
is one. I just don't know it.

844
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,601
As far as there's a bunch

845
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,100
of intake right now. When will

846
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:16,100
we start to see kind

847
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,100
of whatever that next step is

848
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,100
coming back around?

849
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,100
>> Thank you, councilmember.

850
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,100
And unfortunately, Taylor's

851
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,100
been working hard at getting

852
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,100
these separate petitions and

853
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,100
requests together as

854
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,100
collaboratively

855
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,100
as possible. It's a good thing,

856
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,100
but it's also a bad thing

857
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,100
because it takes us away

858
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,100
from a lot of the larger

859
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,100
projects that were recommended

860
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,100
in the traffic study. And so it

861
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
compartmentalizes our capacity

862
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100
to really get things done,

863
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,100
like we're trying to do in

864
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,100
West Hyattsville. In the

865
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,100
West Hyattsville project,

866
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,100
which is now along Jamestown

867
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,100
Road. A lot of different things

868
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:59,100
we're working on

869
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,100
with several different of our

870
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,100
firms that we've contracted

871
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:05,100
with. So, I mean, ultimately,

872
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,100
it's to come to a decision.

873
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,100
It's to start

874
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,100
with a temporary mitigation,

875
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,100
which is often more permanent.

876
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,100
Like on Jefferson, we did

877
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
temporary, but that will

878
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
eventually become permanent,

879
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,100
if indeed it is effective. So

880
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:20,100
that's typically how we go

881
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
about this, but she has seven

882
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,100
or eight petitions already,

883
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,100
and so it really drags us

884
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,100
around to different.

885
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,100
Like I said,

886
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,100
it's good and yet it's

887
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,100
difficult because it takes away

888
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,100
a lot of our energy

889
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,100
from larger projects. If that

890
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,401
makes sense to you.

891
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
>> That does. I guess my second

892
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:43,100
question is, I just saw,

893
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,100
or just saw

894
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,100
through this presentation, the

895
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,100
January or June 10th

896
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,100
Belchrest Road meeting. Do you

897
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,100
know if anyone from the city

898
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,100
will be there?

899
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,100
>> Yes, I know for sure.

900
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,100
Taylor will be there, and I

901
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,100
will probably be there as well.

902
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,100
>> And if I cannot make it

903
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,100
because there's another meeting

904
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,100
happening,

905
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:07,100
then will we elevate the

906
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
concern

907
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
of just the current state of

908
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,100
Belchrest Road, specifically.

909
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,100
>> Okay.

910
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100
>> I mean, I know the part

911
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,100
with the 711 being built.

912
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,100
I get that.

913
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:20,100
But the intersection of

914
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:21,100
East West, where it looks

915
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,100
like craters,

916
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,100
and then the fire station. So

917
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,100
I'm just putting this

918
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,100
out here. If I'm not there,

919
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,401
someone's going to need

920
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,100
to hear

921
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,100
about it. I'm just asking.

922
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,100
>> They've heard

923
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,100
about it repeatedly from us.

924
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:35,100
Yeah, but it's good. They'll

925
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,100
hear it again.

926
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,100
>> Okay, thank you.

927
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100
>> I think we invite all

928
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,100
of the councilmembers

929
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,100
to these meetings, but what

930
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,100
we'll do is just send an email

931
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,100
out with a list of the upcoming

932
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,100
meetings so that the council

933
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,100
members can put them

934
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,401
on their calendars. Yeah.

935
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,100
Because it sounded

936
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,100
like you and you and

937
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,100
Councilman Shively weren't

938
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,100
aware of meetings

939
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:57,100
in your area, so. Yeah, so

940
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,100
we'll make sure we get that

941
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,100
out. Nate, would you just make

942
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,100
a note on that, please? Good.

943
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:05,100
Yeah. Taylor's been working

944
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,100
hard, just trying to get

945
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,100
out and about and meet with

946
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,100
residents who have written us

947
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:11,100
just to understand their

948
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,100
concerns and walk the area

949
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:14,100
with them. Some of these will

950
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,100
also lend themselves to the

951
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,100
walk and talks that we're

952
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,100
scheduling where the DPW

953
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,100
director, the Chief of Police

954
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:20,100
and any other leadership will

955
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,100
come out and walk

956
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,100
with the councilmembers

957
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,100
in the communities through

958
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
their neighborhoods.

959
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,100
>> Okay, thank you. Anyone else

960
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,401
have any questions? Seeing

961
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
none. Thank you, Ms. Douglas.

962
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,401
>> You're welcome. Thank you.

963
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
>> Okay, we are going to move

964
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,100
on now. We have a presentation,

965
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,100
the West Hyattsville-Queens

966
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:45,100
Chapel Sector Plan. So who's

967
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:48,100
going to take that

968
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,100
from staff?

969
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,100
>> Jeff will lead that.

970
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,100
>> Okay, Jeff.

971
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,100
>> Good evening and welcome to

972
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,100
all the new councilmembers and

973
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
the existing ones as well.

974
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,100
This afternoon we have this

975
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:00,100
presentation as mentioned,

976
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,100
est Hyattsville-Queens Chapel

977
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
Sector Plan update. This has

978
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,100
been for been

979
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,100
before the council a number

980
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,100
of times. July 22, 2022. It was

981
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100
before you the first iteration

982
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,100
of this plan. The second

983
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,100
iteration was released May

984
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,100
of last year. However, there's

985
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,100
been some. Essentially there

986
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,100
was a request

987
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,100
by the planning department

988
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,100
to remand the staff draft two

989
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,100
for essentially

990
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,100
to reconsider the Queen's

991
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,100
Chapel Manor and other

992
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,100
neighborhoods

993
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,100
for the missing middle housing,

994
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,100
as well as

995
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,100
to analyze the impacts of the

996
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,100
Housing Expansion

997
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,100
Affordability act that was

998
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100
signed to law this past year.

999
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,100
2024, April of 2024, as well as

1000
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,100
I believe, a number

1001
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,100
of other concerns. So we have

1002
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
Parker planning staff that

1003
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,100
that's essentially here as well

1004
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,100
as. Looks like we have

1005
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,100
Director hall that will be

1006
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:57,100
on the call with us as well

1007
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,100
that will provide us

1008
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100
with a briefing

1009
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,100
on their findings

1010
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:04,100
in this new iteration, which

1011
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,100
you, which you can find

1012
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,100
on the website,

1013
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
the city's website. There's a

1014
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,100
link for that if you'd like

1015
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,100
to review that. Feel free

1016
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,100
to do so. Last summer we did

1017
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,100
have a number of questions,

1018
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:16,100
concerns that were submitted

1019
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,100
to parking planning staff. Did

1020
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,100
it provide a response?

1021
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,100
But I think this, this period

1022
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:24,100
of research and additional

1023
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:25,100
analysis has offered some

1024
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,100
additional information that I

1025
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
think council and the community

1026
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,100
at large could benefit from.

1027
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,100
So tonight I'd like

1028
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:31,100
to introduce Tony Felt, Thomas

1029
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,100
Lester, Justin Thornton and

1030
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,100
of course Director Hall

1031
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
to provide the presentation

1032
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,100
for tonight.

1033
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:46,100
>> Okay, who's going

1034
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,100
to present?

1035
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,100
>> I can kick off the

1036
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,100
presentation. Looks

1037
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:57,100
like we're all set. Can

1038
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,401
everyone see the PowerPoint?

1039
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,100
>> Yes, we see it.

1040
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:08,100
>> Great. Thank you, Mayor,

1041
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,401
members of the council

1042
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,100
for the City of Hyattsville.

1043
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:14,100
I'm Thomas Lester, the

1044
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,100
Project Manager. Tonight,

1045
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,100
along with the Deputy Project

1046
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,100
Manager, Justin Thornton, we'll

1047
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,100
discuss the major changes

1048
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,100
to the third draft of the

1049
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,100
West Hyattsville-Queens

1050
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,100
Chapel Sector Plan and

1051
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
sectional map amendment. I'm

1052
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:28,100
also joined this evening by

1053
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,100
Tony Felt, Deputy Planning

1054
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
Director of Administration and

1055
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,100
I believe Lakeisha Hall, the

1056
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
Planning Directors.

1057
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,100
Also listening

1058
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
in the purpose

1059
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,100
of today's presentation is

1060
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,100
to introduce the third draft of

1061
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,100
the sector plan and the

1062
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,100
sectional map amendment and

1063
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,100
highlight the major changes

1064
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,100
between the second and the

1065
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,100
third drafts,

1066
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,401
specifically those that affect

1067
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,100
Hyattsville

1068
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,100
within the city limits. Next

1069
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:03,100
slide please. So tonight I'll

1070
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,100
first provide a quick

1071
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
background

1072
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,100
of the project and then Justin

1073
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,100
will dive into the major

1074
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,100
changes that have been applied

1075
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,100
since the second draft and then

1076
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,601
I'll conclude by going over the

1077
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,100
current schedule and what the

1078
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
next steps

1079
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,100
in the process are. Next slide

1080
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,100
please. In terms

1081
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
of the background,

1082
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,100
here's the timeline

1083
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,100
of key events

1084
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:28,100
for the plan and the SMA,

1085
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:29,100
highlighting the important

1086
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,100
milestones

1087
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:31,100
in the process leading up

1088
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,100
to today. On January 18,

1089
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,100
2022, the County Council

1090
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,100
officiated officially initiate

1091
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,100
the sector plan in SMA. By

1092
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,100
July 28, 2022, the initial

1093
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,100
draft was released

1094
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:42,100
to the public

1095
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,100
for reviewing feedback and then

1096
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,100
Shortly after on October 11,

1097
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100
2022 we held the first joint

1098
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
public hearing. However, on

1099
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,100
December 15th of that year,

1100
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
the Planning Board remanded the

1101
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
draft and the proposals made

1102
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,100
back to staff

1103
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,100
for further revision. And then

1104
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,100
from January 2023 to May 2024

1105
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,100
the team worked on revising the

1106
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:57,100
second draft based on the

1107
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,100
feedback received and then

1108
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
October 1, 2024 we have an

1109
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,100
additional joint public hearing

1110
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,100
together input

1111
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,100
on the new draft and then

1112
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,100
finally on July, January 9,

1113
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,100
2025 the Planning Board removed

1114
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,100
the draft once again for

1115
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,100
further revisions and then

1116
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,100
staff more recently requested

1117
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,100
and got approved the permission

1118
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,100
to release the third draft

1119
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,401
which was on April 24, 2025.

1120
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:19,100
Next slide please. So this

1121
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:22,100
slide just shows the sector

1122
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,100
plan and the SMA boundary which

1123
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,100
is primarily located within

1124
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,100
Planning Area 68. The area is

1125
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
entirely within Council manic

1126
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:30,100
District 2 and includes a

1127
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,100
portion of the City of

1128
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,100
Hyattsville, the Town of

1129
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,100
Brentwood and the City of

1130
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,100
Mount Rainier. The northern

1131
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,100
boundary

1132
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,100
of the area is defined by the

1133
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:42,100
Prince George's Plaza

1134
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,100
Regional Transit District and

1135
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,100
the southern boundary of but

1136
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,100
Washington. Additionally, the

1137
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,100
area surrounds the boundary

1138
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,100
of the 2006 West High School

1139
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,100
Transit District Development

1140
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,100
Plan. Next slide please. Based

1141
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,100
on community input from the

1142
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,100
last joint public hearing,

1143
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,100
staff were prompted

1144
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,100
to re review certain aspects

1145
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,100
of the plan. This included

1146
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,100
conducting a comprehensive

1147
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,100
review of the plan

1148
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:06,100
to ensure alignment with the

1149
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,100
recent legislative changes and

1150
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,100
evolving community needs.

1151
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:11,100
In response to HB 538 which

1152
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,100
took effect on January 1,

1153
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,100
2025, the plan was reviewed and

1154
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,100
revised to support efforts in

1155
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,100
addressing affordable housing

1156
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,100
shortages. Similarly, updates

1157
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,100
were made

1158
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,100
to reflect the changes made

1159
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
to the zoning ordinance by

1160
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,100
Council Bill 1524, which

1161
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,100
revised sensitive standards

1162
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,100
across multiple zones.

1163
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:31,100
In addition

1164
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,100
to legislative review, staff

1165
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100
assessed the potential loss of

1166
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,100
existing naturally occurring

1167
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:37,100
affordable units and develop

1168
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,100
strategies aimed at mitigating

1169
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:41,100
resident displacement. And then

1170
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,100
lastly, staff reviewed and

1171
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100
revised the zoning for the

1172
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
single family detached

1173
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,100
residential neighborhoods

1174
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,100
throughout the entire sector

1175
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,100
plan area. I'm now going

1176
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
to turn it over to Justin

1177
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,100
to review the major changes.

1178
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:54,100
So next slide and Justin will

1179
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,100
take it away.

1180
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:59,100
>> All right, thank you,

1181
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,100
Thomas. So sorry. I just got to

1182
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,100
fix this sharing option really

1183
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
quickly. So I believe. Are you

1184
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:06,100
guys seeing my whole screen?

1185
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,401
>> No, there's nothing. There

1186
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:17,100
it is.

1187
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,100
>> It's nothing because I can't

1188
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
see it.

1189
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,100
>> We see it.

1190
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:27,100
>> I can't see on my end,

1191
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,100
so I just wanted

1192
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,100
to be sure.

1193
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,100
>> We can also see the,

1194
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:35,100
like the table of contents

1195
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
on the side.

1196
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
>> Oh, okay. All right. I see

1197
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,401
what's happening. Okay, how

1198
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,100
about now? Can you guys see?

1199
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,100
>> Yes.

1200
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:49,100
>> Let me try to. Okay. Is that

1201
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,100
better?

1202
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,100
>> Yep.

1203
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,401
>> Okay. Sorry about that,

1204
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,100
Thomas. Okay, so this slide

1205
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,100
outlines the major changes

1206
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,100
to the West Hyattsville-Queens

1207
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,100
Chapel Sector Plan.

1208
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,100
Generally, there were only

1209
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,100
major changes

1210
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,100
to the land use and zoning,

1211
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:19,100
transportation, housing and

1212
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
neighborhoods, community

1213
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,100
heritage corporation culture

1214
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,100
and design and public

1215
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:26,100
facilities plan elements.

1216
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,100
There were no major changes

1217
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100
to the plan's vision or

1218
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100
to the plan elements

1219
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:32,100
for economic prosperity,

1220
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,100
natural environment and healthy

1221
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,100
communities. Okay, now we'll

1222
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,100
take a look at the local

1223
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,100
transit center boundary. This

1224
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,100
slide highlights a major change

1225
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,100
to the language chapter and

1226
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100
specifically a change in the

1227
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,100
West Hyattsville local transit

1228
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,100
center boundary

1229
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,100
from the previous draft. The

1230
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100
boundary has been updated to

1231
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,100
reflect the addition and

1232
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,100
removal of certain right

1233
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,100
of ways. Additionally, several

1234
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,100
properties along Chillum Road

1235
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,100
have been returned

1236
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,100
to the center boundary,

1237
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,100
helping

1238
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
to ensure properties closest

1239
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100
to the Metro station remain

1240
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,100
within the center. These

1241
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
changes aim

1242
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100
to encourage growth near Metro

1243
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,100
while mitigating potential

1244
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,401
environmental impacts. Two new

1245
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
strategies have been added

1246
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,100
to the land use chapter

1247
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100
under LU3 to address

1248
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,100
environmental risk and fair

1249
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,100
development. One strategy

1250
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,100
proposes a comprehensive

1251
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,100
floodplain study that explores

1252
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
creating a floodplain overlay

1253
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:27,100
zone in the zoning ordinance.

1254
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,100
The second strategy recommends

1255
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,100
exploring a transfer of right

1256
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:31,100
development program as a tool

1257
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:32,100
to redirect growth

1258
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,100
from sensitive areas

1259
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:35,100
to more appropriate areas.

1260
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,100
Okay, so another major change

1261
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,100
is the future land use map.

1262
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,401
Notably, all single family

1263
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,100
neighborhoods have been

1264
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,100
redesignated

1265
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,100
from residential medium

1266
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100
to medium high,

1267
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,100
reflecting the push for more

1268
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:01,100
missing middle housing

1269
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,100
throughout the entire sector

1270
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,100
plan area and leveraging higher

1271
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,100
densities

1272
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,100
in an area that lies completely

1273
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,100
within the 10 minute bike shed

1274
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,100
to the Metro station.

1275
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
Additionally, the Washington

1276
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,100
Gas Light company property has

1277
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,100
been reclassified

1278
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,100
from institutional land use

1279
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,100
to mixed use,

1280
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
encouraging a diverse range

1281
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,100
of uses on the site. These

1282
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
updates are part of the Plan's

1283
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:27,100
broader vision to promote

1284
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100
higher density development

1285
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
near the station. This slide is

1286
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,401
just for a reference

1287
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,100
but shows the existing zoning

1288
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,100
before we discuss the proposed

1289
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,100
zoning and to implement the

1290
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:44,100
Sector Plan's policies and land

1291
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,100
use recommendations. As we kind

1292
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,100
of just went over, the Sector

1293
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,100
Plan area proposes to

1294
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
reclassify properties

1295
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:53,100
throughout the plan boundary

1296
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:55,100
to bring zoning

1297
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:57,100
into conformance

1298
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
with the sector plan

1299
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:01,100
in the plan area. There are 38

1300
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:03,100
total proposed zoning changes

1301
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,100
on this slide we will be

1302
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,100
focusing

1303
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,100
on the three major changes

1304
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,100
for the City of Hyattsville.

1305
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
The zoning for all residential

1306
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,100
single family 65 or RSF 65

1307
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
areas have been replaced with

1308
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,100
residential single family

1309
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,100
attached or RSFA zone and is

1310
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,100
supported

1311
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100
by the future land use map.

1312
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,401
This rezoning will allow

1313
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,100
for a more diverse range

1314
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,100
of housing types and allow

1315
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,100
for the construction

1316
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:34,100
of a house on a single 5,000

1317
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,100
square foot lot which is the

1318
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,100
predominant size

1319
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,100
in the community.

1320
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,100
Additionally, the Washington

1321
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,100
Gas Light Company property will

1322
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,100
be rezoned to Local Transit

1323
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,100
Oriented EDGE or LTOE

1324
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,100
to support Transit Oriented

1325
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,100
Development and transition away

1326
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,100
from industrial uses. As you

1327
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,100
will see late

1328
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,100
in the presentation,

1329
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:58,100
the change in Washington Gas

1330
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,100
Light property prompts a change

1331
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,100
regarding upgrades

1332
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,100
to bike pedestrian facilities,

1333
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,100
recommendations for Chillum

1334
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,100
Road and some intermediate

1335
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,100
design guidelines

1336
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,100
for the industrial uses. These

1337
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,100
zoning changes are reflected in

1338
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,100
the sectional map amendment as

1339
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,100
zoning changes 36, 37 and 38

1340
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100
which we have in the table

1341
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,601
on the slide here. Okay, this

1342
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,100
slide highlights a major change

1343
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100
in the transportation aspect

1344
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,100
of the West

1345
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,100
Hyattsville-Queens Chapel

1346
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,100
Sector Plan. The transportation

1347
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,100
plan has reconciled

1348
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,100
with the ongoing GO Prince

1349
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,100
George's Functional plan which

1350
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,100
involves updating street

1351
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,100
classification notations and

1352
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:40,100
making minor adjustments

1353
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,100
to the right of way whips. A

1354
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,100
key change resulting from the

1355
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,100
update is is the rezoning

1356
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
of the Washington Gaslight

1357
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
Company property which has led

1358
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:50,100
to the upgrade of Chillum Road

1359
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,100
from a neighborhood connector

1360
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:53,100
to a mixed use boulevard. This

1361
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,100
slide outlines a major change

1362
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,100
in the bicycle and pedestrian

1363
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,100
plan. The proposed T208 trail

1364
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,100
through WMATA's property has

1365
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,401
been deleted following a

1366
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:07,100
request from the Parks

1367
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,100
Department due to the extreme

1368
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,100
slopes and other fiscal

1369
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100
challenges associated

1370
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,100
with that route.

1371
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,100
Additionally, the plan the

1372
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,100
planned bike lanes BL200 on

1373
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,100
Jamestown Road has been changed

1374
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,100
to a shared use path res 233.

1375
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:23,100
This adjustment was made to

1376
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,100
preserve the large mature trees

1377
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,100
along the road,

1378
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,100
ensuring they are not affected

1379
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,100
by any potential right of way

1380
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,100
widenings that would be needed

1381
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,100
to install bike lanes. The

1382
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,100
Housing and Neighborhood

1383
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,601
section of the Sector plan has

1384
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
been updated

1385
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:43,100
to place a stronger emphasis on

1386
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,100
anti displacement and

1387
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,100
affordable housing. It has been

1388
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,100
reorganized and expanded

1389
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,100
with new strategies, including

1390
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,100
recommending ongoing

1391
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,100
collaboration to continue

1392
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,100
developing anti displacement

1393
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,100
strategies

1394
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
beyond the plan's adoption,

1395
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,401
connecting residents at risk

1396
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,100
of displacement

1397
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,100
with free legal assistance,

1398
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:08,100
supporting local advocacy

1399
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,401
groups that help renters

1400
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,100
address rent increases,

1401
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,100
and encouraging the adoption

1402
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:18,100
of right to return policies

1403
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,100
for residents affected

1404
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,100
by redevelopment.

1405
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,100
Additionally, it calls

1406
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
for partnering

1407
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
with a nonprofit organization

1408
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,100
to establish a community land

1409
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,100
trust to create and maintain

1410
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,100
permanent affordable housing

1411
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:31,100
through collective ownership.

1412
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:32,100
In response to the Maryland

1413
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:33,100
Housing Expansion

1414
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,100
Affordability act, or HB538,

1415
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,100
the plan includes a new policy,

1416
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,100
HN4, to support increased

1417
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,100
housing density

1418
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,100
around the metro station

1419
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,100
for qualifying projects.

1420
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:42,100
Specifically, it allows a 30%

1421
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:43,100
density bonus for developments

1422
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,100
with at least 15% affordable

1423
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,100
housing units

1424
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:47,100
within three quarters

1425
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,100
of a mile of the West

1426
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100
Highsville Metro station

1427
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,100
in certain zones. It also

1428
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,100
supports the development

1429
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,100
of missing middle housing in

1430
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,100
single family zones that meet

1431
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,100
location and affordability

1432
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,100
criteria. And with that,

1433
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
I will hand it back to Thomas

1434
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,100
to go over the remaining

1435
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:04,100
schedule.

1436
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,401
>> Thank you, Justin. Now,

1437
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,100
let's take a look

1438
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:10,100
at the schedule. We recently

1439
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,100
were given permission

1440
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
to print the third draft

1441
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,100
of the plan on April 24th

1442
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:16,100
of this year. Next up will be

1443
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:17,100
the joint public hearing,

1444
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,100
which is scheduled for July 1st

1445
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:20,100
of this year. We hope that the

1446
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,100
planning board work session

1447
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,100
with adoption and endorsement

1448
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,100
occurs in September and then

1449
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:27,100
followed by the District

1450
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,100
Council's work session in

1451
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,100
October

1452
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,100
with the final approval date

1453
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:33,100
in November, just before the

1454
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,100
December recess. Next slide.

1455
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,100
And that concludes staff's

1456
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:39,100
presentation. Thank you.

1457
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:51,100
>> Okay, can you stop sharing

1458
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:54,100
your screen, please? Thank you.

1459
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:55,100
Colleagues, questions. Mr.

1460
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:57,100
Solomon?

1461
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:01,100
>> Thank you. The last time

1462
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,100
that we had a presentation,

1463
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,100
one of the first. Thank you

1464
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,601
for the work that you've done

1465
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:14,100
on this. I think that you guys

1466
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:16,401
have been extremely transparent

1467
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,100
and forthcoming with us and

1468
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,100
about the things that you

1469
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,100
wanted

1470
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,100
to change and collaborative.

1471
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,100
Working in a collaborative way

1472
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,100
with the city of Hyattsville,

1473
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:34,100
at least. Although I'm sure you

1474
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:36,100
guys heard

1475
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,100
from the beginning, it sounds

1476
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:41,100
like there's some outreach that

1477
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,100
needs to happen in Avondale.

1478
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,100
My question is

1479
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
around our conversation

1480
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100
around ADUs. Is the word ADU or

1481
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,100
is the acronym ADU used

1482
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:48,100
in this third version?

1483
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:49,100
>> Yes, the term ADU is

1484
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,100
referred to in this version. I

1485
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,100
believe those were added

1486
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,100
in the second draft. So the

1487
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:54,100
plan does encourage the use

1488
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,100
of ADUs. However,

1489
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,100
in the county right now,

1490
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
ADUs are not permitted. So the

1491
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,100
plan just says if they are

1492
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,100
permitted in the future,

1493
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,100
they would be encouraged

1494
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,100
in this area.

1495
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:03,100
>> We were fine with that

1496
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,100
language when they weren't

1497
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,100
approved,

1498
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,100
because they weren't approved.

1499
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:09,100
They weren't

1500
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,100
on the schedule for the county

1501
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,100
to approve them. But are you

1502
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,100
guys aware that the state did

1503
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,100
require all jurisdictions to

1504
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,100
adopt a policy allowing ADUs

1505
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,100
this year?

1506
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,100
>> Yes, Tony felt with Prince

1507
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,100
George's planning. Yes, we have

1508
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,100
been monitoring that

1509
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:26,100
legislation. And, you know,

1510
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,100
we do have a schedule

1511
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:29,100
to comply with ADUs. The

1512
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,100
legislature did mandate ADUs

1513
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,100
to be allowed

1514
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,100
in all jurisdictions in

1515
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,100
Maryland. So that is

1516
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,100
legislation that we're still

1517
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
reviewing,

1518
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,100
and we'll be working

1519
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:43,100
on that sooner or later.

1520
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,100
But as of right now, Thomas is

1521
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,100
correct that currently the code

1522
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
in Prince George's county has

1523
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,100
not been changed

1524
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,401
to allow allow ADUs,

1525
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,100
but we have been mandated

1526
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:58,601
by the state to allow ADUs

1527
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:01,100
within the county based

1528
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:03,100
on that legislation. So that's

1529
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,100
something that we'll be

1530
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,100
reviewing with the county

1531
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:07,100
Council

1532
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:08,100
in the coming months.

1533
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,100
>> Yes, I think that in terms

1534
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,100
of this sector plan. I'm sorry,

1535
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,100
was that you, Mayor Croslin?

1536
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:13,100
>> Yes, it is. Just one second.

1537
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,100
I think maybe we need

1538
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,100
to explain what ADUs are

1539
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,100
for the community at large and

1540
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:20,401
for our new councilmembers.

1541
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:22,100
>> Sure.

1542
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,100
>> Professionals.

1543
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,100
>> Sure, I can explain that.

1544
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:28,100
ADU is an acronym that means

1545
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:29,100
accessory dwelling unit. So

1546
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,100
essentially it is a dwelling

1547
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,100
unit with a kitchen, bathroom,

1548
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:35,100
and a bedroom meets the

1549
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:37,100
definition

1550
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,401
of a dwelling according

1551
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,100
to the building code. And they

1552
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
are usually smaller,

1553
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:47,100
much smaller than the main

1554
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,100
house, but it is additional

1555
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:51,100
separate dwelling unit. They

1556
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:54,100
can either be attached or

1557
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,100
detached, you know, depending

1558
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,100
on the size of the lot or what

1559
00:47:58,100 --> 00:47:59,100
the homeowner wants to do. As

1560
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,100
Thomas mentioned,

1561
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:02,100
currently they're not allowed

1562
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,100
by code in Prince George's

1563
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,100
county,

1564
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,100
but they have been mandated

1565
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:08,100
by the state to be allowed. So

1566
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,100
essentially, if you think

1567
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,100
about. I'll give you an

1568
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:12,100
example, kind

1569
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,100
of a classic example

1570
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,100
of an adu. If you think

1571
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,100
about somebody that may have a

1572
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:18,100
detached garage outside, you

1573
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:19,100
know, a separate building

1574
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,100
from their house that's

1575
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,100
detached from their house,

1576
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,100
that may have a second story

1577
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,100
with an apartment

1578
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,100
above the garage,

1579
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:27,100
that would be what we're

1580
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,100
talking about with an ADU or

1581
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,100
maybe someone has a basement

1582
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,100
that's fully separated

1583
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,100
from the rest of their house

1584
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:36,100
that they have a living unit

1585
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,100
in, or, you know, something

1586
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:40,100
like a mother in law suite,

1587
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
something like that would be

1588
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,100
considered an ADU.

1589
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:43,100
>> Okay, thank you. I'm sorry,

1590
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,100
I cut you off, Ms. Sultan. Go

1591
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:46,100
ahead.

1592
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,100
>> No problem. The state law

1593
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,401
mandates that we have

1594
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,601
to adopt something by. Or you

1595
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,100
guys have to adopt something

1596
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,100
by October of 2026. So you have

1597
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:05,100
a little over a year

1598
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,100
to do so, which would give

1599
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,401
people, based upon your

1600
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,401
timeline, roughly a year

1601
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:17,100
to start converting things

1602
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,100
into ADUs

1603
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,100
without any regulation. So it

1604
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,100
would be my and given that our

1605
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,100
residents. I think we made it

1606
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:24,100
abundantly clear that the

1607
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:26,100
majority of our residents do

1608
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,100
not want or support ADUs.

1609
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,100
There are some that do,

1610
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,100
but given that they. The sum

1611
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,401
that do will get,

1612
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,100
that will get them eventually,

1613
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,100
because the state is requiring

1614
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,100
getting, you guys will come up

1615
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
with rules and regulations. I

1616
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,100
think that in this version, we

1617
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,100
should not be encouraging them.

1618
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,100
We should just wait until you

1619
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,100
guys provide additional

1620
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:50,100
guidance

1621
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:51,100
on what the rules are going

1622
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,100
to be around ADUs, and then,

1623
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:54,100
I don't know,

1624
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,100
maybe the city will have

1625
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,100
to come up

1626
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
with its version as well. And

1627
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:58,100
then we can talk about. Have a

1628
00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:59,100
conversation around,

1629
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,100
a more robust conversation

1630
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:02,100
around ADUs, rather than just

1631
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,100
recommending that they be

1632
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,100
allowed. Because the heart of

1633
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,100
the area that will be impacted

1634
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
by this already struggles

1635
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,100
with parking, with Airbnbs,

1636
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,100
with, I don't know, a ton

1637
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,100
of things, a ton of issues that

1638
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,100
I think allowing ADUs at this

1639
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:16,100
point would just not support.

1640
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,100
So thank you.

1641
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,100
>> If I could just respond. I

1642
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,100
just want to say what's in the

1643
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,100
plan is language that would

1644
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,100
support ADUs or encourage ADUs

1645
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:28,100
once they become allowed. The

1646
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,100
plan would not allow ADUs,

1647
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:32,100
as the does. The current county

1648
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,100
code does not allow ADUs. They

1649
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,100
would only be allowed once the

1650
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:37,100
county council makes the change

1651
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:39,100
to the zoning code. So I just

1652
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:40,100
want to make sure that that's

1653
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,100
clarified.

1654
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:46,100
>> Yeah, I guess what I'm

1655
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:47,100
trying to say, and I want to

1656
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100
make sure I get that what I'm

1657
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,100
saying is there will be a year

1658
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,100
between when this. This passes

1659
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,100
and when the county council has

1660
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,100
to come up with their update

1661
00:50:57,100 --> 00:51:00,100
their zoning costs. And I

1662
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,100
suppose that you guys are

1663
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,100
gonna. Because there's some

1664
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:04,100
technical pieces in there that

1665
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:05,100
I think would be outside

1666
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,100
of zoning that, that the law

1667
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100
requires that you guys come up

1668
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:11,100
with also,

1669
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,100
like where they can be, how

1670
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
to count them toward density, a

1671
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,100
couple other things that are

1672
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,100
planning specific. And I think

1673
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:21,100
that because there are those

1674
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,100
additional questions that need

1675
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,100
to be answered,

1676
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,100
it's not just a recommend that,

1677
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:30,100
oh, I think you guys should do,

1678
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:31,100
or I think that they should be

1679
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,100
allowed. There's a lot

1680
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:34,100
of heavy lifting

1681
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100
around actually allowing them.

1682
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,100
So I don't understand why we're

1683
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,100
saying that we recommend that

1684
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:41,100
they're going

1685
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,100
to be allowed when A,

1686
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,100
they will be allowed and B, we

1687
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,100
haven't done the heavy lifting

1688
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:46,100
which is coming on,

1689
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:47,100
on setting them up

1690
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,100
to be allowed.

1691
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,100
>> Okay. Mr. Haba? We can't

1692
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,100
hear you.

1693
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:56,100
>> There we go. I thought I had

1694
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:57,100
unmuted. Thank you for the

1695
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,100
presentation. I will start

1696
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,100
by saying that I do seek

1697
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:03,100
in what Council President

1698
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,100
Solomon was just going

1699
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,100
over removing that language

1700
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:09,100
around ADUs from the SMA as it

1701
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:11,100
stand because it's going to be

1702
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,100
a countywide policy that needs

1703
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:15,100
to be implemented. So why put

1704
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:16,100
it in this one when we know

1705
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:18,100
that there's something coming

1706
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:19,100
down the line? So let's just

1707
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:22,100
remove it from this. When and

1708
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:23,100
if you do come up

1709
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:25,100
with that policy,

1710
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,100
we know that it's going

1711
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:29,100
to apply to the county

1712
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:32,100
at large. So I wanted

1713
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,401
to second that suggestion.

1714
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,100
Also I know I saw on the map

1715
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:40,601
that there is no longer going

1716
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:46,100
to be dedicated,

1717
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:47,100
I think bike lane on

1718
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,100
Jamestown. We had some concern

1719
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
about that Jamestown and

1720
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
Nicholson, but I didn't see

1721
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:53,100
for the Nicholson part. Is that

1722
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,100
also the same. The same changes

1723
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,100
applying to Nicholson or

1724
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,100
Nicholson is saying the same as

1725
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,100
previously. So Jamestown was a

1726
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,100
shared.

1727
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,601
>> Yeah. Let me just check the

1728
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
map real quick.

1729
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,100
>> I'm sorry Councilmember,

1730
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:21,100
your question was about

1731
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:22,100
Jamestown?

1732
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,100
>> Specifically Jamestown,

1733
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:25,100
Nicholson. Previously it was a

1734
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,100
dedicated bike lanes that which

1735
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,601
was taking kind of like away

1736
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:32,100
from parking. But on the new

1737
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,401
presentation I saw that

1738
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,100
Jamestown is not shared

1739
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,100
for bike lanes.

1740
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,100
>> Yeah. It looks like

1741
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,100
Nicholson is designated as a

1742
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,100
shared lane. Is that right?

1743
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,100
Thomas Nicholson, you are 243

1744
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:45,100
on it.

1745
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:49,100
>> Depends on what portion of

1746
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,401
Nicholson you're referring to.

1747
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:54,100
There's I guess east of Ager

1748
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,100
Road it's bike lane. West of

1749
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,100
Edgar Road it's shared lane.

1750
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:01,100
>> Can you show the map?

1751
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,100
>> We're talking East. So the

1752
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,100
entire length of Nicholson if

1753
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,100
it can be shared because there

1754
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,100
was a fear for 3 canopy. The

1755
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:14,100
loss of 3 canopy on Nicholson

1756
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:16,401
as well Nicholson and

1757
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:20,401
Jamestown on both streets.

1758
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:24,100
Previously the plan that was

1759
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:26,100
presented would have meant that

1760
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,100
we'll lose some three canopy.

1761
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:31,100
>> So just so we're clear,

1762
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,100
councilmember,

1763
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:38,100
you were suggesting on

1764
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:39,100
Nicholson east of Agar Road

1765
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,100
instead of a bicycle lane,

1766
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:42,100
you would prefer

1767
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:45,100
to see a shared lane there,

1768
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:47,100
dealership lane, because there

1769
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,401
is a parking constraint

1770
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,100
in the area. And then we have

1771
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,100
the three canopy

1772
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:57,100
to preserve.

1773
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:59,100
>> Okay.

1774
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,100
>> If we have dedicated lane on

1775
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,100
those two street which it will

1776
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:03,100
mean that we're going

1777
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,100
to lose parking space. Unless

1778
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:08,100
you are able to do it

1779
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:10,100
without losing parking space,

1780
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,100
then we good. We shout out.

1781
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,100
>> Yeah. So I was just going

1782
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,100
to confirm that James Conrad

1783
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
was also bicycle.

1784
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:21,100
>> I apologize for all the

1785
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,100
clarifying questions. I'm

1786
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,100
taking notes. I just want to

1787
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:29,100
make sure that I get your

1788
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:31,100
comments exactly right,

1789
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,100
councilmember.

1790
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:37,100
>> The other thing I was

1791
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:39,100
interested in is the

1792
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,100
Washington Gas facility. Can

1793
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:42,100
you elaborate a little bit more

1794
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,601
on that? Because that has been.

1795
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:51,100
I think our friends from

1796
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,100
Avondale and Avonreach will be

1797
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,100
happy to also learn more

1798
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:55,100
on that one. What exactly the

1799
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,401
vision are we foreseeing

1800
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:00,100
Washington Gas eventually

1801
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,100
converting?

1802
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,100
>> So, Councilmember, we had a

1803
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:09,100
request from Washington.

1804
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,100
Well, first let me start off.

1805
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,100
Currently the property, the

1806
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,100
Washington Gas property is

1807
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
zoned agricultural. It is a

1808
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:16,401
privately owned public utility.

1809
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,401
Therefore it's subject to

1810
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,100
what's called the mandatory

1811
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,100
referral process,

1812
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:25,100
meaning that regardless

1813
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,100
of the zoning, the Wash Gas

1814
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,100
facility as a privately owned

1815
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,100
public utility can continue its

1816
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,100
operations and they only go

1817
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:36,100
through a separate process kind

1818
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,100
of outside of zoning. We had a

1819
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,100
request from Washington Gas

1820
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,100
to rezone the property from ag

1821
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:43,100
to an industrial zone. We felt

1822
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,100
like that was not appropriate

1823
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:50,100
one, because if Washington Gas

1824
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:52,100
were to divest the property,

1825
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
any type of industrial

1826
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,100
industrial use could be placed

1827
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,100
on that property. We know from

1828
00:56:58,100 --> 00:56:59,100
our outreach that we had heard

1829
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:02,100
from residents in Avondale and

1830
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:04,100
there in Hyattsville as well

1831
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:05,100
that they did not want to see

1832
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
further industrial development

1833
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:10,100
of that property. So again,

1834
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,100
we did not feel

1835
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,401
like that was appropriate.

1836
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,100
However, in kind of looking

1837
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,100
at the future, you know, we

1838
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,100
recommend, because

1839
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:26,100
of its proximity to the West

1840
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,100
Hyattsville Metro station,

1841
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:29,100
we recommended kind

1842
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,100
of rezoning it to allow transit

1843
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,100
oriented development similar

1844
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:33,100
to what you see

1845
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:35,100
on the other side

1846
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,100
of the river. Now I'll go ahead

1847
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,100
and tell you that's kind

1848
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:40,100
of a visionary type thing that

1849
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:42,100
may not happen for a very,

1850
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:43,100
very long time. And part

1851
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:44,100
of the problem is, you know, we

1852
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,100
understand there's some

1853
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,100
environmental concerns and

1854
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,100
some, you know, a lot of soil

1855
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:49,100
remediation and environmental

1856
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,100
remediation that would have

1857
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:52,100
to happen on that property due

1858
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,100
to its industrial use. So you

1859
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
know, but maybe sometime

1860
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,100
in the future, you know,

1861
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,100
these are 5, 10 and 25 year

1862
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,100
horizon plans. So maybe

1863
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:03,100
sometime

1864
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,100
in the future someone will want

1865
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:06,100
to come in and if Washington

1866
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,100
Gas divests of that property

1867
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:09,100
and put some money into it and

1868
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:11,100
do the remediation and put a

1869
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:13,100
nice development there. And so

1870
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:14,100
that's what we're looking for

1871
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:16,100
with this plan. But again,

1872
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:17,100
the request that we had from

1873
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:18,100
the property owners was an

1874
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,100
industrial zoning district and

1875
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,100
we just didn't feel like that

1876
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:23,100
was appropriate given it its

1877
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,100
proximity to single family

1878
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,100
residential.

1879
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,401
>> Thank you for that

1880
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:32,100
clarification. So basically we

1881
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,100
classifying it as mixed use,

1882
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,100
but the current use would be

1883
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:37,100
grandfather as long as they're

1884
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,100
there.

1885
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,100
>> That's correct. As long as

1886
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,100
Washington Gas is there and

1887
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:44,100
they're privately owned public

1888
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,100
utility, they can continue

1889
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:46,100
to operate under the mandatory

1890
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:48,100
referral process.

1891
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:51,100
>> Thank you. Those are my

1892
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:53,100
questions.

1893
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,100
>> Thank you. Mr. Schaible?

1894
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:57,100
>> Thank you. This question

1895
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:58,100
came to me

1896
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:00,100
from a constituent,

1897
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,100
but I also am curious to learn

1898
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:06,100
the answer. I know there's

1899
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,401
county legislation that passed

1900
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:11,100
within the last one

1901
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:13,100
to two years that talked

1902
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:16,100
about hurrying up the timeline

1903
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,100
to convert arterial roads that

1904
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,100
are adjacent to transit hubs to

1905
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:26,100
the new urban street design

1906
00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:28,401
standard, which is more

1907
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,100
multimodal and pedestrian

1908
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,100
friendly. We know that Ager had

1909
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:37,100
kind of a complete street

1910
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,100
revision maybe five years ago.

1911
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:41,100
However, we've done a fair

1912
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:43,100
amount of analysis on that road

1913
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:45,100
that shows that it's still got

1914
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:46,100
pretty high speeds

1915
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:49,100
of traffic. And just wanted

1916
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:51,100
to ask,

1917
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,100
are there any provisions

1918
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:56,100
in this, looking

1919
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:58,100
at this anchor, which is

1920
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:00,100
Ager, which is the hub that the

1921
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,401
Metro station is right

1922
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,100
off of. Any thoughts to further

1923
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100
expand walkability and

1924
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:08,100
multimodal transit options

1925
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:11,100
adjacent to the Metro station?

1926
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:17,100
>> Yes, thank you

1927
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:18,100
for that question.

1928
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,100
Absolutely. Justin, if you

1929
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:22,100
could go to slide 12, please.

1930
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:24,100
Ager Road and as well as

1931
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:26,100
Queens Chapel Road

1932
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:27,100
in that area are proposed

1933
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:29,100
to be mixed use boulevards,

1934
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,100
which are part of those new

1935
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:32,100
street detail standards that we

1936
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,100
have in combination

1937
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:38,100
with DPW and T. A mixed use

1938
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
boulevard incorporates things

1939
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,100
like parking next to it,

1940
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,100
medians, bike lanes,

1941
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:45,100
integrated bike lanes. So those

1942
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:48,100
tend to reduce the amount of

1943
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,100
traffic lanes while also

1944
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,401
allowing multimodal and slowing

1945
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:54,401
down traffic. So that's

1946
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,100
proposed both for Acre Road as

1947
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,100
well as Queens Chapel Road.

1948
01:00:58,100 --> 01:00:59,100
And particularly your question,

1949
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,100
Agar Road there at West

1950
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:02,100
Hyattsville. And so you'll see

1951
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,100
that right there. Where you see

1952
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:07,100
that 217 on the map,

1953
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:09,100
that's Edgar Road right there.

1954
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,100
>> Okay, that sounds good. I

1955
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,100
don't have them handy,

1956
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:15,100
but I would like

1957
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:16,100
to forward someone

1958
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:18,100
from your team. We did a

1959
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:19,100
traffic audit of. There was an

1960
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:20,100
intersection along Ager where a

1961
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,100
pedestrian was fatally struck

1962
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:23,100
by a vehicle about three,

1963
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,100
three years ago. And we did a

1964
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:26,100
bunch of research there. We had

1965
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,100
some leading people

1966
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:30,100
in the space of, you know, road

1967
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:31,100
safety come and provide

1968
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,100
comment. Actually, Juanika

1969
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,100
Fisher was a panelist

1970
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,100
on this,

1971
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:43,100
on this presentation. It was

1972
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:45,100
led by an organization called

1973
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:46,100
Strong Towns. They gave a

1974
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:48,100
series

1975
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:50,100
of recommendations. I want to

1976
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,100
make sure you have those and

1977
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,100
can consider those

1978
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:53,100
in your revisions to the road.

1979
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,100
>> Councilmember,

1980
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:03,100
I'm fairly certain we have a

1981
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:05,100
copy of that study. Thomas, do

1982
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:06,100
we have that and have

1983
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:07,100
incorporated that

1984
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,401
into the plan, right?

1985
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:12,100
>> Yeah, I believe so.

1986
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:13,100
>> Yes.

1987
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:14,100
But Councilmember, just to

1988
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:16,100
make sure I believe we have it

1989
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:18,401
and we've incorporated it

1990
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:21,100
in the plan. But just

1991
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:22,100
in case, if you want

1992
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:23,100
to send it to us. I don't know

1993
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:24,100
if you have our presentation

1994
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:26,100
in your packet, but all the

1995
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:27,100
team members contact

1996
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:28,100
information with their emails

1997
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:30,100
are there and so just shoot it

1998
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,100
over to us and we'll

1999
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:33,100
verify that we have it

2000
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,100
but I'm 99.9% certain that

2001
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,100
we've got it.

2002
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,100
>> Okay, we'll do. Thank you.

2003
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,100
>> Ms. Lee.

2004
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:47,100
>> Well, hello. Good evening.

2005
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,100
Thank you. Can you guys hear

2006
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,100
me?

2007
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:56,100
Thank you for your

2008
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,100
presentation. I do have a

2009
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:59,100
question. Slide 14, where major

2010
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
changes housing and

2011
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:02,100
neighborhoods, where it said

2012
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:04,100
that new strategies were added

2013
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:05,100
to the policy HN2 to develop

2014
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:06,100
long term anti deplacement

2015
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,100
measures. Can you speak on any

2016
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:09,100
initiatives or what initiatives

2017
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:12,100
does the planning board have

2018
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:14,401
in mind for this?

2019
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:17,100
>> The purpose

2020
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:18,100
of that strategy is just to

2021
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:20,100
emphasize that displacement

2022
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,100
doesn't end with displacement

2023
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:24,100
plan or displacement strategy

2024
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:27,100
shouldn't end with this plan.

2025
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:29,100
This plan is just the starting

2026
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,100
point for anti displacement and

2027
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:34,100
that work on that kind

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01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:36,401
of effort should continue

2029
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,100
into the future. So there's

2030
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,100
nothing specific right now.

2031
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:41,100
It's just emphasizing that

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01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,100
things should happen,

2033
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,100
should continue to develop as

2034
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,100
the area changes.

2035
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,100
>> Okay. And any other,

2036
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:50,100
do you have any other

2037
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:52,100
sector plans that have gone

2038
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:53,100
through that with any anti

2039
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:54,100
deplacement programs that you

2040
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:56,100
could speak on just to kind of

2041
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:58,401
get a better understanding.

2042
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,100
>> The anti displacement

2043
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,100
policy, it's one of those that

2044
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:10,100
we think should happen. We

2045
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,100
would have to work of course

2046
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:13,100
with the county council and

2047
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:14,100
county executive departments

2048
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,100
in Prince George's county

2049
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:18,100
for that to be put in place.

2050
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:21,100
What we're saying here is that

2051
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:23,100
we want to make sure that as

2052
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:24,100
new development comes in that

2053
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,100
we don't see existing

2054
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,100
communities displaced or

2055
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:29,100
existing communities disbanded

2056
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,100
because of new development.

2057
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:32,100
And so the goal is

2058
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,100
in putting this policy

2059
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:35,100
into the plan is

2060
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,100
to draw attention

2061
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,100
to the matter and kind

2062
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,100
of bring it up to a level

2063
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,100
for the county council

2064
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,100
to consider. And you know,

2065
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:48,100
if the county council is

2066
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,100
willing to look at that the

2067
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,100
planning department would stand

2068
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:54,100
ready to work for, to develop

2069
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:55,100
any anti displacement measures

2070
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,100
that they see fit. But right

2071
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,100
now there's no requirements

2072
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:01,100
in the county code. But that's

2073
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,100
something that we think should

2074
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,100
happen.

2075
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:06,100
>> So this is something that we

2076
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,100
need as a city have to take up

2077
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,100
with our county council members

2078
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:10,100
to make sure that it is enacted

2079
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:12,100
into the right.

2080
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:15,100
>> That's what we would like

2081
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,100
to see. This is one

2082
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:18,100
of those aspirational policies.

2083
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:19,100
But, you know,

2084
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:20,100
and we would love to work

2085
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:21,100
with the city of Hyattsville

2086
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:23,100
to bring that

2087
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,100
to the forefront.

2088
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
>> Thank you.

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01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:36,100
>> Okay, Ms. Waszczak.

2090
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,100
>> Sorry, the mute button did

2091
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,100
not want to unmute itself.

2092
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,100
Okay, so I have three

2093
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:44,100
questions. First, I wondered

2094
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,100
how this plan has been updated,

2095
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,100
if at all,

2096
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:51,601
with the advent of. And really

2097
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,100
the explosion

2098
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:56,100
of motorized scooters,

2099
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:57,100
especially for food delivery.

2100
01:05:57,100 --> 01:05:58,100
Because I know that there's a

2101
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,100
lot of attention to transit

2102
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,100
oriented development and

2103
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,100
bicycle and pedestrian. So just

2104
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:05,100
trying to figure out if there

2105
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:06,100
have been any changes

2106
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:08,100
to what you're planning based

2107
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,100
on the fact that there are

2108
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,100
scooters zipping everywhere and

2109
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:13,100
not paying attention

2110
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,100
to traffic laws. Is there any

2111
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,100
way to kind

2112
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:22,100
of use this planning document

2113
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,401
to help control that?

2114
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:29,100
>> I would say. Sorry, Tony,

2115
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:30,100
did you want to go?

2116
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,100
>> So go ahead, Thomas.

2117
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,100
>> Yeah, I was going to say,

2118
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
generally the plan does account

2119
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:37,100
for motorized vehicles

2120
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:39,100
with bicycle lanes. So if you

2121
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,100
look at the map,

2122
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,100
the transportation map, most

2123
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,100
of the new streets are, you

2124
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:44,100
know, the urban design streets

2125
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:46,100
that include some sort of

2126
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
shared use path or other path

2127
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:48,100
that would accommodate scooters

2128
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:51,100
as well, or bike lanes.

2129
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,100
>> I guess I'm concerned about

2130
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:56,100
that because these motorized

2131
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:57,100
scooters, or I don't know what

2132
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,100
you guys call them, like the.

2133
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:01,100
Going

2134
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:02,100
to show my age right now,

2135
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:04,100
like the Vespa type of scooter

2136
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:05,100
is what I'm talking about. I'm

2137
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:07,100
talking

2138
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:09,100
about the ones that are

2139
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,100
like basically a vehicle. They

2140
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
are riding in bike lanes,

2141
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,100
they are riding on sidewalks,

2142
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,100
they are riding

2143
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:18,100
in bike paths. And I think I'm

2144
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:19,100
just wondering if there is any

2145
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:20,100
way for us

2146
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,100
to use this sector plan

2147
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,100
to kind of create a vision

2148
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:25,100
for a safer way

2149
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,100
for these motorized vehicles

2150
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:29,100
to operate. Because it's

2151
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,100
like the wild west

2152
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:32,100
out there right now.

2153
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,100
>> Yeah. So usually I think

2154
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:35,100
what you're kind of talking

2155
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,100
about is something not quite a

2156
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:39,100
motorcycle, but not quite a

2157
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,100
scooter. I know exactly what

2158
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,100
you're talking about. Usually

2159
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:43,100
those are considered a motor

2160
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:45,100
vehicle in the same vein as a

2161
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:46,100
motorcycle. And the plans

2162
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,100
really typically focus on

2163
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:49,100
street design and land use. I

2164
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:52,100
think what you're. It sounds

2165
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:55,100
like, not the put words

2166
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:57,100
in your mouth, Councilmember,

2167
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,100
but it sounds

2168
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:01,100
like you're concerned

2169
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:02,100
about traffic laws and the

2170
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,100
fact that they're not following

2171
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:05,100
traffic laws. That's not

2172
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:07,100
something that we generally get

2173
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:08,100
into in a sector plan.

2174
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,100
However, you know,

2175
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:12,100
if your comments back to

2176
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:14,100
us was that that was something

2177
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,100
that you would like

2178
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:17,100
to see perhaps as a strategy,

2179
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,100
you know, we could look

2180
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,100
at incorporating some

2181
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,100
of that language.

2182
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,100
But usually that's, you know,

2183
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
rest

2184
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,100
with the police department

2185
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:28,100
to enforce those types

2186
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,100
of traffic laws. But I

2187
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:32,100
definitely understand where

2188
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,100
you're coming from because I'm

2189
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:42,100
just gonna. I feel your pain

2190
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:44,100
on that.

2191
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,100
>> If I can chime

2192
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,100
in here for a moment. Good

2193
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,100
evening, everyone. So I can

2194
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:50,100
just provide a little bit more

2195
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:51,100
clarification. We do have a

2196
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:53,100
comparable document that we are

2197
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:54,100
doing, Master Plan of

2198
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:55,100
Transportation update. And so

2199
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:57,100
to your point, Councilwoman, if

2200
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:58,100
we're not able

2201
01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:59,100
to capture it as part

2202
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:00,100
of this master plan, we do have

2203
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,100
a separate document where we're

2204
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:02,100
updating with multiple

2205
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,100
transportation agencies. So

2206
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,100
Deputy Director felt we could

2207
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,100
probably line this up

2208
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,100
with the GOPrince George's

2209
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:08,100
process as needed. So that's

2210
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:09,100
going to come before the

2211
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,100
council next year.

2212
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:12,100
>> Okay, great, thanks. These

2213
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:14,100
other two might also be related

2214
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:16,100
to the PG process. So just

2215
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:18,100
bear with me. So I wondered if

2216
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,100
you could talk about how the

2217
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,100
transportation map that we saw,

2218
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:23,100
the one with all the, like,

2219
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:24,100
dotted lines

2220
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,100
on it that were colored,

2221
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,100
how has that been aligned

2222
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:29,100
with Metro's new Better Bus

2223
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:31,100
network map? And are we making

2224
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,100
sure that we kind

2225
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:36,100
of have aligned those two? As

2226
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:39,100
you update the sector plan,

2227
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,100
are you also working

2228
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,100
with WMATA on trying to figure

2229
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:46,100
out how their new bus routes

2230
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,100
are going

2231
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,401
to impact your plan?

2232
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
>> Yes. The short answer to

2233
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:52,100
your question is we have worked

2234
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,100
with WMATA very closely

2235
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,100
to put this plan together.

2236
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:57,100
Also have worked

2237
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:58,100
with WMATA as an agency

2238
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,100
with GOPrince George's. So we

2239
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:02,100
have taken that

2240
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
into account as we've looked

2241
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:08,100
at some of these street

2242
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,100
classification changes.

2243
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:11,100
>> Okay, great. And then my

2244
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:13,100
last question was,

2245
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:14,100
does the plan provide for

2246
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:15,100
bicycle oriented development

2247
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,100
and not just transit oriented

2248
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:19,100
development? And the reason I

2249
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100
ask that is because we're

2250
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,100
obviously on one of the premier

2251
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:23,100
bike trail systems

2252
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:26,100
in the country. I mean, I feel

2253
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:29,100
like we are. And so I want to

2254
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:30,100
make sure that we are thinking

2255
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,100
not just about cars and about

2256
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:34,100
transit oriented development,

2257
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,100
but also about bike oriented

2258
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:40,100
development. As I understand

2259
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:41,100
there was a development

2260
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:43,100
possibly coming in right next

2261
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,100
to West Hyattville Station that

2262
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:47,100
envisioned itself

2263
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:50,100
to be bike oriented and not to

2264
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,100
really have parking spaces. I

2265
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:54,100
think that's kind

2266
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:55,100
of the future. And if we're

2267
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,100
looking

2268
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:59,100
at a visionary plan here,

2269
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:00,100
I just want to make sure that

2270
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:02,100
we have that vision

2271
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:03,100
in mind as well.

2272
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,100
>> Yes, absolutely. And you

2273
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
know, the nice thing about

2274
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
transit oriented development,

2275
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
it is also bike oriented

2276
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:09,100
development because we're

2277
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:10,100
looking

2278
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:12,100
at those multimodal forms

2279
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:13,100
of transportation not just

2280
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:14,100
in this plan, but also in

2281
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:15,100
GoPrince Georgia's,

2282
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,100
but if you take a look

2283
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:17,100
at slide 13, we've envisioned a

2284
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,100
wide array of bicycle lanes,

2285
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:19,100
both shared and dedicated

2286
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:20,100
throughout the plan. Not only

2287
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,100
that,

2288
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,100
in our trail networks

2289
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
associated with the plan, we've

2290
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,100
envisioned multi use paths that

2291
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,100
incorporate bikes. So we're

2292
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,100
definitely taking a vision of

2293
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,100
much more multimodal transit,

2294
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:32,100
including bicycles

2295
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:34,401
in the plan area.

2296
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:37,100
>> Great. Thank you very much.

2297
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,100
>> Okay. Mr. Solomon, did you

2298
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:42,100
have another question you want

2299
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,100
to ask?

2300
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,100
>> Yes, just two more things

2301
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:48,100
that I want to raise. The first

2302
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:49,100
was just revisiting the

2303
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:51,100
conversation around ADUs,

2304
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:54,100
but I wanted to mix it with the

2305
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:55,100
density changes that were the

2306
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,100
zoning change that's also

2307
01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:59,100
included here.

2308
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:02,401
The zoning change came

2309
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:04,100
about because when we,

2310
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
when we came up

2311
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,100
with draft one, there was no

2312
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:09,100
zoning change initially

2313
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,100
indicated,

2314
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:16,100
but there was a conversation

2315
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:19,100
around ADUs. I think that

2316
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:21,100
in general,

2317
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,100
planning board plus the

2318
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:26,100
majority of residents agrees

2319
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,100
that ADUs were not the way

2320
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,100
to go. So we came up with the

2321
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:31,100
zoning change that would

2322
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:32,100
achieve the same objectives

2323
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:34,100
around allowing additional

2324
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,100
housing should people choose to

2325
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:39,100
convert their homes or lots or

2326
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:40,100
you know,

2327
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:42,100
build additional units.

2328
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:46,100
But it wouldn't come with

2329
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:48,100
some of the negatives

2330
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,100
that we associated with ADUs.

2331
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:52,100
But now, since we're going

2332
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:54,100
to get ADUs anyway, I'm

2333
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,100
wondering, have we seen a place

2334
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:57,100
where you do the zoning change

2335
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:59,100
and you allow ADUs

2336
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,100
at the same time? Are

2337
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,100
there examples that you guys

2338
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:04,100
can pull from around what that

2339
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,100
looks like?

2340
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,100
>> Sure. So ADUs are allowed

2341
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,100
in multiple jurisdictions

2342
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,100
across the country. And I can

2343
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:12,100
kind of pull on my experience

2344
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,100
at my previous life in San

2345
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,100
Antonio, Texas, where,

2346
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,601
and I'm sure Director Hall can

2347
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:20,100
pull

2348
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,100
from her previous experiences

2349
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:23,100
in Miami and Charlotte and

2350
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:25,100
Los Angeles. But you know,

2351
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,100
what we've been able to see is

2352
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:28,100
that ADUs can provide

2353
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,100
additional housing options and

2354
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:31,100
allow people both to age

2355
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:33,100
in place,

2356
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:35,100
can allow some independence

2357
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,100
for students that may be aging

2358
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:38,100
out of their parents home

2359
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:41,601
but still want to stay close

2360
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:44,100
to the nest, or may allow

2361
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,100
homeowners

2362
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:48,401
to supplement their income

2363
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:52,100
by renting out a unit.

2364
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100
And that unit can provide some

2365
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,100
affordable housing

2366
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:58,100
for someone who is trying

2367
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,100
to get on their feet. You know,

2368
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:00,100
around the country,

2369
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:02,100
ADUs have been really

2370
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
successful in allowing these

2371
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:05,100
additional housing options

2372
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:08,100
to occur. And you don't really

2373
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:09,100
see those types

2374
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:10,100
of negative effects. Usually

2375
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:12,100
ADUs work best where you have a

2376
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
really robust infrastructure,

2377
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,100
multimodal and transit

2378
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:17,100
oriented, and you have good

2379
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,100
transit,

2380
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:20,100
which is what you're seeing

2381
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,100
in these neighborhoods. So, you

2382
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:22,100
know,

2383
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:24,100
it's been our experience that

2384
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,100
around the country that these,

2385
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,100
the ADUs have worked along

2386
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:30,100
with additional densities.

2387
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:31,000
Director Hall, I didn't know if

2388
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,100
you had anything that you

2389
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:34,100
wanted to add.

2390
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,100
>> Yes, just really quickly.

2391
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:37,100
So in addition to go Prince

2392
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:38,100
George's, we're going to start

2393
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:39,100
a missing middle housing study.

2394
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:41,100
And so as part

2395
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,100
of that effort, we're going

2396
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:43,100
to include the City of

2397
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:45,100
Hyattsville. And we're hoping

2398
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:46,100
that

2399
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:47,100
before that effective date

2400
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,100
of the state requirements

2401
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
on ADUs,

2402
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:51,100
we can have some engagement

2403
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,100
of what that looks like. So

2404
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:54,100
keep in mind the master and

2405
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,100
sector plan will be adopted

2406
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:57,100
for the city. However, there

2407
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,100
are still code regulations that

2408
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:00,100
can be adopted that may also

2409
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,100
overlap the master and sector

2410
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
plan process. So we want to

2411
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
make sure that the council is

2412
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,100
aware that with this master and

2413
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:06,100
sector plan, there might be

2414
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
additional amendments made

2415
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
through the regulation process.

2416
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:10,100
But we are definitely going to

2417
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:13,100
be transparent and come back as

2418
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,100
part of the missing middle

2419
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:17,100
housing study to talk

2420
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:19,100
about this further.

2421
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:20,100
>> Okay. For me, I think that I

2422
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:22,100
appreciate hearing that. I

2423
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:24,100
don't know if you were

2424
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:26,100
on earlier to hear my comment

2425
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,100
that I don't think that we

2426
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,100
should include ADUs, but this

2427
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:30,100
reinforces my comment that I

2428
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:31,100
think we should keep ADUs out

2429
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:33,100
of this and just leave it

2430
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:35,401
in that additional piece

2431
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
that you're talking

2432
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,100
about when we get

2433
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:43,100
to that point, because, you

2434
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:44,100
know, ADUs aren't going

2435
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:46,100
to account toward density,

2436
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:48,100
but we're going

2437
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:49,100
to grow density, but

2438
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:51,100
with the zoning change. And I'm

2439
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:53,100
wondering in our

2440
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,100
goodwill to try and

2441
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:57,100
create additional affordable

2442
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:59,100
options if we're also going

2443
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,100
to create a greater burden

2444
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:01,000
on the resources of the city

2445
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,000
by rushing toward that goal

2446
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,100
rather than slowly getting

2447
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:07,100
there

2448
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:09,401
through a planned process,

2449
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,100
which you guys are,

2450
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,100
which is the whole focus

2451
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:15,100
of this exercise,

2452
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,100
by doing both

2453
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:17,100
at the same time quickly. So

2454
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:19,100
that's my thoughts there. The

2455
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,100
only other thing I was going

2456
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:21,100
to say about transportation,

2457
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,100
I don't know if we included it,

2458
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,100
but I know one

2459
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:26,100
of my concerns, I live

2460
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:29,100
near the Metro station where we

2461
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:31,100
do have the,

2462
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,100
the scooters and the E-bikes

2463
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:34,100
and every other

2464
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,100
thing that you can think

2465
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,100
of that you will want people

2466
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
to just get on when they get

2467
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,601
off a Metro and not get

2468
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:45,100
in the car. But in every other

2469
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:48,100
place that I've visited, there

2470
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:51,100
are speed regulations that

2471
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,100
those things have to follow and

2472
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:54,000
also locations where they can

2473
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,100
and can't be used. But it, I

2474
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,100
don't, it doesn't seem

2475
01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:59,100
like those exist in Prince

2476
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,100
George's County. And I think

2477
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,100
one of the recommendations that

2478
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:05,100
we should make to the

2479
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:07,100
District Council is that they

2480
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:09,100
should put those things in

2481
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:10,100
place because otherwise they're

2482
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:11,000
ending up in

2483
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,100
neighborhoods. They're

2484
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:14,100
ending up

2485
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:16,100
in this pond that we've created

2486
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:17,000
over here. They're ending up

2487
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,100
in all types of places that

2488
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:20,100
they shouldn't be because we

2489
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:22,100
allow people to bring them

2490
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:23,100
there and just throw them

2491
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:24,100
anywhere. So I think if we

2492
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:26,100
could make one

2493
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:27,100
of the recommendations back to

2494
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:28,100
the district council could be

2495
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:30,100
working

2496
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:31,100
with whoever their partners are

2497
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:32,100
in establishing these

2498
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:33,100
multimodal transportation

2499
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,100
system

2500
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:35,100
around both metro stations,

2501
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:36,100
both West High School,

2502
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:38,100
but also there needs to be. I

2503
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,100
would assume that they're

2504
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:42,000
having the same problem

2505
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,100
around French George's Plaza

2506
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:45,100
Metro station, is that some

2507
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,100
of them aren't making it back

2508
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,100
to where they came from. Thank

2509
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,100
you.

2510
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,100
>> Okay, thank you. We have

2511
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,100
another presentation coming up.

2512
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:54,100
So, colleagues, is that all the

2513
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:55,100
comments or questions that we

2514
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:56,100
have? Okay, thank you. Thank

2515
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,100
you, folks for coming and

2516
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:58,100
making this presentation

2517
01:17:58,100 --> 01:17:59,100
to us.

2518
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,100
>> Thank you for having us.

2519
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:02,100
>> Okay, so we're going to go

2520
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:04,100
on to the next presentation,

2521
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,100
Ms. Riddle.

2522
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,100
>> Thank you, Mayor Croslin.

2523
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:10,401
>> Hal Metzler is also

2524
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:13,401
with me this evening.

2525
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,100
Deputy Director Metzler. We

2526
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:19,100
are here with representatives

2527
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:20,100
from Tanko. Council approved us

2528
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:22,100
moving forward with a contract

2529
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:25,100
with Tanko to maneuver us

2530
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:29,100
through the changes with PEPCO

2531
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:33,100
and our lighting system. I'm

2532
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:36,100
going to turn it over to Tanko

2533
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,100
and to Hal. And we are

2534
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,100
after the presentation here

2535
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:42,401
to answer your questions.

2536
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:49,100
>> Good evening, Mayor,

2537
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,100
Council. Just to add on

2538
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:52,100
to what Leslie said,

2539
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:53,100
the city is responding to the

2540
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:55,100
Maryland General assembly

2541
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:59,100
passing a. Excuse me. The

2542
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,100
Municipal Streetlight

2543
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:04,100
Investment act in fiscal year

2544
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:06,100
23 that allows local

2545
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:08,100
governments

2546
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:10,100
to acquire streetlights from

2547
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:11,100
their local utility. PEPCO had

2548
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:13,100
a number of meetings

2549
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,100
with all the municipalities

2550
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:16,100
in Prince George's County. The

2551
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:19,100
city, after attending a few

2552
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:22,100
of those, brought Tanko

2553
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:23,100
on board to kind

2554
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:25,100
of review this and advise us.

2555
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:26,100
They gave a presentation to

2556
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,100
council last year where they

2557
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:29,100
had one recommendation.

2558
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:31,100
Since then, PEPCO has changed

2559
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:34,100
their proposed rates and that

2560
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:36,100
has caused us to have Tanko

2561
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:38,100
kind of re. Evaluate the

2562
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:40,100
options for the city. Jason

2563
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,100
Tanko is here

2564
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:43,401
to present those options

2565
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:47,100
to you all. Thank you, Jason.

2566
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,100
>> I'm

2567
01:19:53,100 --> 01:19:55,100
loading up the presentation. I

2568
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:57,100
just want to confirm. Can

2569
01:19:57,100 --> 01:19:58,100
everyone see this?

2570
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:00,100
>> Yes.

2571
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:02,401
>> We're here to talk

2572
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:04,100
about streetlights. My name is

2573
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:06,100
Jason Tanko. I'm an absolute

2574
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:07,100
advocate and lover

2575
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:09,401
of streetlights. Definitely a

2576
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:11,100
unique person

2577
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,100
from this standpoint. I get

2578
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:14,100
to work and play

2579
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,100
with something I care

2580
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:17,100
about very deeply. So we're

2581
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:18,100
talking

2582
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:19,100
about the lights right here.

2583
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:20,100
This is actually a shot of

2584
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,100
Hyattsville. I think you can

2585
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:24,100
all see my cursor. Is that

2586
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:25,100
right?

2587
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:26,100
>> Yes.

2588
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,100
>> Okay, so just a little bit

2589
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:28,100
about us because the remaining

2590
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:29,100
slides really focus

2591
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:30,100
on the city. So our company,

2592
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:32,100
we've helped 130 cities and

2593
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:34,401
towns around the country

2594
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:37,100
acquire their street Lights.

2595
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,401
In some cases, we've

2596
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:42,100
recommended that they not

2597
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:43,000
acquire the lights. So we're

2598
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,000
not coming in,

2599
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,100
just beating a single drum.

2600
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:47,100
Some points

2601
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:49,100
around why you would want

2602
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:51,100
to own number one. Street

2603
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:52,100
lights are here

2604
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:54,100
for public safety. They prevent

2605
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:55,100
accidents. They allow slip and

2606
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:56,100
fall hazards to be mitigated.

2607
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:57,100
They really reduce crime.

2608
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:59,100
There's a lot of social

2609
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:00,100
benefits that streetlights

2610
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:01,100
have, so owning the street

2611
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:02,100
lights, there's a lot

2612
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,100
of benefits to that in terms of

2613
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:05,100
the city's public safety goals.

2614
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,100
Another benefit that we'll get

2615
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:08,100
into here is cost savings.

2616
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,100
There is going to be faster

2617
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:11,100
response times because the city

2618
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
will now be more directly

2619
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
responsible

2620
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:15,100
for the maintenance, better

2621
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:16,100
maintenance,

2622
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:17,100
control and design

2623
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
of the lighting. And in this,

2624
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:19,100
right away, here, this picture,

2625
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:20,100
the city already takes care

2626
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:22,100
of everything else. The street,

2627
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,100
the stormwater. You clean it,

2628
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100
you plow it. Everything else in

2629
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,100
this street is already

2630
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:27,100
currently done by the city,

2631
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,100
just lighting it. Currently

2632
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:30,100
still covered under PEPCO.

2633
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:32,100
But again, we're recommending

2634
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,100
that be potentially changed.

2635
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:35,100
The last point I'll leave you

2636
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,100
with is people already think

2637
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:38,100
you own the street lights.

2638
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,100
People are calling the city

2639
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:42,100
today with lights that are

2640
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:44,100
out issues. And the problem is

2641
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:46,100
you have to go to PEPCO, where

2642
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:48,100
there's just no accountability

2643
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,100
to make sure that they get

2644
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,100
repaired on time. All right,

2645
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:51,100
can everyone see the next

2646
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:52,100
slide?

2647
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:53,100
>> Yes, we can.

2648
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:54,100
>> Okay, great. So this kind

2649
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:55,100
of catches us up. We did a

2650
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:56,100
streetlight feasibility study

2651
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,100
that was completed on October

2652
01:21:58,100 --> 01:21:59,100
2023. We reported

2653
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:00,100
to council and to staff on

2654
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:02,100
February 2024. The results

2655
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:04,100
of those. We essentially looked

2656
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:05,100
at four options,

2657
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
and basically it was either

2658
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:08,100
stay with PEPCO or go out

2659
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,100
on your own. And those were put

2660
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,401
against basically just status

2661
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:18,100
quo. We had to have some sort

2662
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:20,100
of baseline. So since then,

2663
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100
we've also now completed the

2664
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:24,100
lighting audit and the GIS

2665
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:27,100
overlay. So we had staff from

2666
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:29,100
Tanko going pole

2667
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,100
by pole throughout the city,

2668
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:37,100
counting all

2669
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:38,100
of the street lights,

2670
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:40,100
getting critical data about,

2671
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:42,100
you know, what the street

2672
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:45,100
light, where it was located,

2673
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:47,100
any, any information

2674
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,100
off the pole, things

2675
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:49,100
like that. We reconcile that

2676
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
against the bills that

2677
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:52,100
currently came in from PEPCO.

2678
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:54,100
We believe that there's a

2679
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:56,100
potential credit in

2680
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:57,100
overbuilding because basically

2681
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:58,100
the records were just not

2682
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:00,100
matching what we found

2683
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:02,100
in the field. Another note is

2684
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,100
that since April 1st

2685
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,100
of this year,

2686
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:06,100
the bill has actually increased

2687
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:07,100
by another 10%. And it's our

2688
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:08,100
position

2689
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:10,100
with the city staff as well,

2690
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:11,100
that pepco's rates are really

2691
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:12,100
reflective of a policy that

2692
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,100
they just don't want to be

2693
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,100
in street lighting anymore.

2694
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:16,100
Their rates are quite

2695
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:18,100
ridiculous. Even

2696
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:19,100
to convert the Lights, their

2697
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:21,100
maintenance is very poor.

2698
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:24,100
You're really in the worst case

2699
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:26,100
scenario right now with

2700
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:28,100
PEPCO. You're paying the

2701
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:30,100
highest cost and getting the

2702
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:31,100
least level of service. We

2703
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:32,100
actually want

2704
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,100
to reverse that completely.

2705
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:36,100
Pay less and get a lot more.

2706
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:38,100
That's essentially what we're

2707
01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:39,100
proposing. So we reduced it

2708
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:40,100
down to three options. Option

2709
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100
three is really again,

2710
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,100
just do nothing. So this is

2711
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:44,100
your baseline. You're currently

2712
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:45,100
spending $268,000 a year

2713
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:48,100
in street lights. Over 20 years

2714
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:50,100
that will be just under $6

2715
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:52,100
million at 5.904. What we

2716
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:54,100
looked at is if you stayed

2717
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:55,100
with PEPCO and converted to LED

2718
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,100
or if you bought the lights

2719
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:59,100
from PEPCO and you converted

2720
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,100
to led. So you can see the,

2721
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:04,100
the costs are slightly better.

2722
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:06,100
By buying out from PEPCO and

2723
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:07,100
having us oversee an LED

2724
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:09,100
conversion, your operating

2725
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:10,100
costs are actually quite

2726
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:11,100
similar over the 20 year

2727
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:13,100
period. But it's the project

2728
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,100
cost where things really get

2729
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:15,100
separated. It is more than

2730
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:17,100
double to convert to LED

2731
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,100
with PEPCO. And there is no

2732
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,100
timeline upon which they will

2733
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:21,100
be able

2734
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:23,100
to do this conversion. As Hal

2735
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:25,100
can attest to,

2736
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,100
it has taken them years to even

2737
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,100
do the few hundred lights that

2738
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:30,100
have been done. So

2739
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,100
by spending just

2740
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:33,100
under this million dollars,

2741
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:34,100
you get a great return

2742
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:35,100
on investment. This is one of

2743
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:37,100
the best we see and this entire

2744
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:38,100
project would be done in

2745
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:40,100
about a year. So our

2746
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:41,100
recommendation currently this

2747
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:43,100
is the way staff feels as well

2748
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:44,100
as we believe it's

2749
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:45,100
in your best interest

2750
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:47,100
to purchase the lights

2751
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:49,100
from pepco. This would put you

2752
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:50,100
in alignment

2753
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,100
with multiple agencies around

2754
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,100
the country and just know D.C.

2755
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:55,100
baltimore, they own and

2756
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:57,401
maintain all their street

2757
01:24:58,100 --> 01:24:59,100
lights as well. You have much

2758
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:01,100
lower costs. A great return

2759
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:03,401
on investment. The LED

2760
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,100
conversion is really paramount

2761
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:07,100
because it does play public

2762
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:09,100
safety. Everyone knows LED

2763
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:11,100
lighting at night is easier

2764
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:12,100
to see. You have better depth

2765
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:13,100
vision. It's going

2766
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:14,100
to be easier

2767
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:15,100
to avoid pedestrians, icicles

2768
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:17,100
and other collisions just

2769
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,100
because the lighting is much

2770
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:19,100
easier to use at nighttime. By

2771
01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:21,100
owning and maintaining lights,

2772
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:24,100
you have better control of the

2773
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,100
lighting design and maintenance

2774
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:26,100
response times. I see outages

2775
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:27,100
repaired within five days,

2776
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:29,100
typically dark sky compliant

2777
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:30,100
fixtures. We're not going

2778
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:31,100
to throw a bunch of light up

2779
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:33,100
into the skies. We're going

2780
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
to put the right amount

2781
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,100
of light and have it focused

2782
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:37,100
at the ground. And of course

2783
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:38,100
this will reduce or increase

2784
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,100
and improve the nighttime

2785
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:41,100
public safety because of cars

2786
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,100
and pedestrians and people

2787
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,100
interacting at night. So this

2788
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,100
is just like a snapshot here,

2789
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:48,100
just an example

2790
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:50,100
of how this is happening

2791
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:53,100
within the rates. These rates

2792
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,100
are published, you could look

2793
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:57,100
them up yourself. These are

2794
01:25:57,100 --> 01:25:58,100
both public Rates from PEPCO.

2795
01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:00,100
So currently you are spending

2796
01:26:00,100 --> 01:26:01,100
$9.31 for a 70 watt high

2797
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:03,100
pressure sodium fixture. This

2798
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:05,100
would be maybe

2799
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:06,100
in a residential neighborhood.

2800
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:07,100
Typically, this is about 43%

2801
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:09,100
of your system. What we're

2802
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:10,100
recommending is you buy

2803
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:11,100
out the lights. The new monthly

2804
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:12,100
cost, and this is everything

2805
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:14,100
all cost in. This includes the

2806
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:15,100
energy bill from PEPCO and the

2807
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:17,401
maintenance. So energy and

2808
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:20,100
maintenance, it would only be

2809
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:21,100
$2.82. Essentially wrapping

2810
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:23,100
this up into the 1200 lights,

2811
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,100
roughly that the city will be

2812
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:25,100
buying. That's how this

2813
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,100
translates into what will be a

2814
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:28,100
couple hundred thousand dollars

2815
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:29,100
savings. Which kind

2816
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:31,100
of leads me to my next slide.

2817
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:33,100
So excuse me. So you can see

2818
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:34,100
right here the $268,000. This

2819
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:36,100
is your current bill. This is

2820
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:37,100
your existing cost. What we're

2821
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:39,100
recommending is by buying

2822
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,100
out the lights,

2823
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:42,100
your bill will now drop down

2824
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:44,100
to 41,000. And then even when

2825
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,100
we added maintenance,

2826
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:48,401
which we estimate at $27,000,

2827
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,100
you're going

2828
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,100
to only be spending roughly

2829
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:53,100
68,000. So that yields about

2830
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,100
$200,000 savings. And then you

2831
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:56,100
can see up here,

2832
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:57,100
under a million dollars

2833
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,100
of investment gives you a

2834
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:00,100
return of $4 million back.

2835
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,100
That is incredible. That is

2836
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:03,100
just really good return

2837
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,100
on your investment. And you get

2838
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:06,100
higher quality lighting and

2839
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:09,100
service of the system. Excuse

2840
01:27:12,100 --> 01:27:13,100
me, Sorry, I think I jumped

2841
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:14,100
one. Okay, so the current

2842
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:16,100
timeline and I'll get

2843
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:17,100
into a couple details here. So

2844
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,100
again,

2845
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:19,100
the audit's been completed.

2846
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:20,100
We're recommending that buying

2847
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,100
out of the system take place as

2848
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,100
the next step. There's roughly

2849
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:25,100
1203 fixtures. Once the city,

2850
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
the city of Hyattsville will

2851
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:28,100
own the lights, will then plan

2852
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:30,100
to do an upgrade to led. That

2853
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,100
upgrade, the installation and

2854
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:33,100
the lighting itself, the

2855
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:35,100
fixtures will all be bid out.

2856
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:37,100
We're just going

2857
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
to project management. So those

2858
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,100
are rather large expenses that

2859
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:42,100
will be publicly bid. And then

2860
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,401
the city maintenance. The

2861
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:46,100
current plan is that Tanko

2862
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:48,100
might do the administrative

2863
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:49,100
side of the maintenance. And we

2864
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,100
will also bid out for a

2865
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:53,100
contractor who will be

2866
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:55,100
responsible

2867
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:58,100
for doing the infield work.

2868
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,100
That's currently just the plan.

2869
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:04,401
Again, this whole estimated

2870
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:08,100
timeline is about a year. So

2871
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:11,100
breakdown of the project costs.

2872
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:15,100
A good chunk

2873
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:17,100
of it is just buying

2874
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,100
out the lights. Let's just get

2875
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:20,100
rid of pepco. We estimate

2876
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:21,100
currently,

2877
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:22,100
based upon the numbers they

2878
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:23,100
publish, roughly a $200,000

2879
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:24,100
investment. Some

2880
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:26,100
of these fees, this is

2881
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:27,100
currently what our contract is.

2882
01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:28,100
This 182,000. That's already

2883
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:30,100
what we're currently operating

2884
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:31,100
under. And then you can see the

2885
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:32,100
conversion will be under

2886
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:33,100
$600,000 again. Most of this

2887
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:35,100
would represent just material

2888
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:36,100
and the installation

2889
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:37,100
from a contractor. So that is

2890
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:39,100
it. I can bounce back

2891
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:40,100
to slides. I'll let you

2892
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,100
guys kind of fire away

2893
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:43,100
with questions

2894
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:44,100
from there.

2895
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,100
>> Okay. Can you stop sharing

2896
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:47,100
screen for a while?

2897
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:48,100
>> Yes, sir.

2898
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:49,100
>> Thank you. Colleagues,

2899
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:51,100
questions? Mr. Haba?

2900
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:53,401
>> Yes, thank you. Operating

2901
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:57,100
costs. I think that's where I

2902
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:59,100
have my question. We saw that

2903
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:01,100
operating cost between PEPCO

2904
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:03,100
and the city will comes out

2905
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:04,100
to be roughly the same.

2906
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:06,401
But what is included

2907
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:09,401
in that operating cost

2908
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,100
at the city level? What's the

2909
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
breakdown

2910
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,401
for that operating cost?

2911
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:19,100
>> So the current operating

2912
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:20,100
cost would be $68,000 compared

2913
01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:23,100
to the. I think it was 82,000.

2914
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,100
That would cover the bill

2915
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:29,100
of just electricity only to

2916
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
Petco and then the maintenance

2917
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:32,100
costs for any given year.

2918
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,100
>> Okay, but we don't have any

2919
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:35,100
estimate or any idea of what

2920
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:38,100
that maintenance cost will be.

2921
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:39,100
>> The maintenance cost was

2922
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:41,401
in slide 7. It was

2923
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:45,100
$26,938. I believe it comes

2924
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:48,100
out to $2 per pole per month.

2925
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:50,100
>> That's your estimate?

2926
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:53,100
Because I heard you saying he's

2927
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:54,100
gonna have

2928
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:56,401
to be bidded out.

2929
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,100
>> Yeah. We will be bidding

2930
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:00,100
out the field work for the

2931
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:03,100
contractor and then we would be

2932
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:04,100
the one

2933
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:05,100
to deploy that contractor.

2934
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:07,100
Make sure that, you know,

2935
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,100
they're not just fixing one

2936
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:09,100
life,

2937
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:10,100
they can fix several things.

2938
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:11,100
So we get more bang

2939
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,100
for the buck. That is an

2940
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,100
estimate. I currently maintain

2941
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:15,100
about 20 street light systems

2942
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:16,100
around the country. So

2943
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:17,100
fortunate for you,

2944
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:18,000
I'm not making that number up.

2945
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,100
That's actually high. Most

2946
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:22,100
of my clients experience costs

2947
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,100
like around $1.60

2948
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:26,100
to A$70 per pole per month

2949
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:27,100
for the year. So I'm estimating

2950
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:28,100
under $27,000. I believe that

2951
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:29,100
will be high.

2952
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,401
>> You good, Mr. Haba?

2953
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,100
>> Yes, I'm good for now.

2954
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:38,100
>> Okay, thank you. Mr.

2955
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:40,100
Schaible?

2956
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:41,100
>> Thank you, Mayor. I think

2957
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,100
to me, I love these. I like

2958
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:45,100
statistics and math and

2959
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:47,100
environmentally friendly

2960
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:48,100
interventions and all that. So

2961
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,100
this kind of hits a sweet spot

2962
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,100
for me. A few questions

2963
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:55,100
about it. You said 1200 lights

2964
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:01,100
and did those include. Let's

2965
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,100
say, you know, there's a lot of

2966
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:05,100
state or county owned roads

2967
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:07,100
that bisect our community. Are

2968
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:09,100
we including purchase of light

2969
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:11,100
off of roads that we don't own

2970
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:13,100
or would those be exempted

2971
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:15,100
for some reason?

2972
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:20,100
>> I'm going to let Hal speak

2973
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:22,100
to the state highway.

2974
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:23,100
Currently, what's not included

2975
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:24,100
in this analysis was 121 lights

2976
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:26,100
already owned and maintenance

2977
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:28,100
maintained by the city. So they

2978
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:30,100
weren't considered because it

2979
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:31,100
was already

2980
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:34,100
in your possession. So how can

2981
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:35,100
give some more direction

2982
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,100
around lights that the state is

2983
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:39,100
putting in and turning over

2984
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,100
to the city. And again,

2985
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,100
I think there's. There's just

2986
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,100
more details how it's got. So

2987
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:47,100
go ahead.

2988
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:48,100
>> Yes. So to help answer that,

2989
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:50,100
the city does have several MOUs

2990
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:51,100
with the state Highway

2991
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:53,100
Administration, and that

2992
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:55,100
primarily covers the pedestrian

2993
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:56,100
lights on Queen's Chapel

2994
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:59,601
Road, a few on East west

2995
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:03,100
highway, and the Trolley Trail

2996
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,100
extension that was just

2997
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,100
completed. So those are lights

2998
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,100
that the city will maintain

2999
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
once State highway finishes

3000
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:14,100
their project, closes

3001
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:16,100
out their project and turns

3002
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:19,100
them over to the city. But

3003
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:20,100
they're not lights that we

3004
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:23,100
would be purchasing from PEPCO

3005
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:25,100
because they're already owned

3006
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,100
by State highway and the

3007
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:28,100
city. So the city helped

3008
01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:30,100
to fund those. That

3009
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:31,100
construction. It was kind

3010
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:34,100
of a joint agreement with

3011
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,100
State Highway. So we already

3012
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:38,100
own those lights. We will take

3013
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:39,100
over maintenance once the,

3014
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:41,100
Once those projects are

3015
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,100
completed. Now, as far as the

3016
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,100
overhead lights on the state

3017
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:46,100
roads and the county roads, the

3018
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:48,100
city would not be taking those

3019
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:49,100
over. The county and the

3020
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:51,100
state are responsible

3021
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100
for those, though I believe the

3022
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:54,100
state highway might be trying

3023
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:55,100
to get some

3024
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,100
of the municipalities to take

3025
01:32:57,100 --> 01:32:58,100
on some of those, but we don't

3026
01:32:58,100 --> 01:32:59,100
currently have any agreement

3027
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:01,401
to do so, and.

3028
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
>> We don't pay for that

3029
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:04,100
electricity right now either.

3030
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,100
>> We should not be.

3031
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:08,100
>> No.

3032
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:10,100
>> Though the audit is still.

3033
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,100
We're still trying to hammer

3034
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,100
out the audit that

3035
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,100
Tanko completed with

3036
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,100
PEPCO to make sure we were

3037
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:19,100
being charged for all the

3038
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:21,100
correct lights and charged the

3039
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:22,100
correct dollar amount. So

3040
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:24,100
we should not be paying

3041
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:26,100
for them. If we have been

3042
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:28,100
paying for them, we will be

3043
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:29,100
requesting a credit back

3044
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:30,100
from pepco,

3045
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:32,100
but that's still kind

3046
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:34,401
of being worked out.

3047
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:37,100
>> Okay. And it sounds

3048
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:39,100
like our concept, and I think

3049
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:42,100
this is probably the way

3050
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:43,100
to go. Although I wonder,

3051
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:45,100
you probably have experience

3052
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:48,100
with this, Mr. Tanko, have you

3053
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,100
worked with jurisdictions that

3054
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:51,100
have decided to assume this

3055
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:52,100
responsibility themselves for

3056
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,100
maintenance? I'm not

3057
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:56,100
necessarily saying I prefer it,

3058
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:58,100
but I do hear about the issue

3059
01:33:58,100 --> 01:33:59,100
from time to time, and I just

3060
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:01,100
wonder, is there any

3061
01:34:01,100 --> 01:34:02,100
maintenance that city staff

3062
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:04,100
does,

3063
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,100
like replace bulbs or anything

3064
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:07,100
like that? Or would this be a

3065
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,100
system that would be entirely

3066
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:11,100
dependent on a contractor

3067
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:13,100
to do maintenance?

3068
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:20,100
>> Oh, sorry.

3069
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:24,100
>> No, please go ahead.

3070
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:26,100
>> I would say that when you

3071
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:27,100
convert the lights to LED,

3072
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:29,100
it is a rather robust system.

3073
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:31,100
We expect that the outage rate

3074
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:32,100
will be less than 1% related to

3075
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,100
the fixture themselves. I think

3076
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,100
the majority of the outages

3077
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
will probably be lined up

3078
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,100
with PEPCO because

3079
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:39,100
of the amount of lights that

3080
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:40,100
you're buying and how little

3081
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:41,100
maintenance will be done going

3082
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:42,100
forward. It doesn't make sense

3083
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:44,100
for the city to, let's say,

3084
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:46,100
buy trucks, hire a crew. It

3085
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:47,100
could be potentially assumed

3086
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:49,100
under something else.

3087
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:50,100
But the other problem with that

3088
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:51,100
is there's so much change just

3089
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:53,100
bringing the street light

3090
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,100
under the purview

3091
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:56,100
of public works. It could be

3092
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:57,100
good, even if it's just

3093
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:58,100
temporary, that we're

3094
01:34:58,100 --> 01:35:00,100
at least there to walk you

3095
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:01,100
through the maintenance

3096
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:02,100
process. And then maybe

3097
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:04,100
at some point in the future,

3098
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,100
the city could take it over.

3099
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
It could just be a lot to do,

3100
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:08,100
but it has been done. We could

3101
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:09,100
consult with you guys

3102
01:35:09,100 --> 01:35:11,100
to set you up

3103
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,100
to make sure that that's ready,

3104
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:15,100
but it just could be a lot

3105
01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:17,401
to take on. Some

3106
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:19,100
of our clients,

3107
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:21,100
the reason why we actually got

3108
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:22,100
into maintenance is they really

3109
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:24,100
wanted to hold our feet

3110
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:25,100
to the fire,

3111
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:27,100
to all the promises in terms

3112
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,100
of the energy conservation,

3113
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,100
the cost savings,

3114
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,100
as well as they wanted

3115
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:33,100
to see us at least carry them

3116
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:34,100
through maintenance

3117
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:36,100
until they felt like, you know

3118
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:38,100
what, I'm ready

3119
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,100
to pick this up,

3120
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:40,100
or what options do I have? So

3121
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:42,100
we're not a required aspect.

3122
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:44,100
You don't have to sign up

3123
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:46,100
with us.

3124
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:48,100
But it could be good just to at

3125
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
least transition because the

3126
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:51,100
public perception is really the

3127
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:52,100
priority here. People already

3128
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:54,100
think you own the lights or

3129
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:55,100
already seeing the poor

3130
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:56,100
maintenance. By having at least

3131
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:57,100
somebody who's adept and ready

3132
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:58,100
to take over the system

3133
01:35:58,100 --> 01:36:00,100
with a lot of experience,

3134
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,100
they're going

3135
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:02,100
to see quicker results. Light

3136
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:03,100
was reported on a Monday, it's

3137
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:04,100
fixed by Friday. Those are good

3138
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
things that we want to see

3139
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:06,100
in terms

3140
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:07,100
of public perception, that

3141
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:08,100
City hall did something right.

3142
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:09,100
So by all means,

3143
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:10,100
you could certainly do that

3144
01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,100
on your own. But we're trying

3145
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:12,100
to at least help push that

3146
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
through. And it's definitely a

3147
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:14,100
minimal cost because you just

3148
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:15,100
don't have that many lights.

3149
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:16,100
>> So I'll say, I mean,

3150
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:17,100
generically, we're not the

3151
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:18,100
subject matter experts

3152
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:20,100
at this juncture. And that

3153
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:21,100
cost, you know, as Jason said,

3154
01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:22,100
maybe down the line, but

3155
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:23,100
at this point we're relying

3156
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:24,100
on Tanko's expertise and

3157
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,100
appreciate their assistance

3158
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:28,100
till now and will continue to

3159
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:30,100
if council sees that fit.

3160
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:32,100
>> And I would like

3161
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
to add one other option to,

3162
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:35,100
or one other fact to this,

3163
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:37,100
is that the majority of the

3164
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:38,100
overhead streetlights are

3165
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:40,100
directly tied

3166
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:41,100
into the power grid. There's no

3167
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,100
meter, there's no disconnect

3168
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:45,401
between them. Therefore, you

3169
01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:48,100
know, the people that work

3170
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:49,100
on it have to be trained and

3171
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:50,100
licensed linesmen and those

3172
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:52,100
folks get paid a lot of money

3173
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:54,100
that we wouldn't have a enough

3174
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:56,100
work for somebody that was

3175
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,100
getting paid that much to do

3176
01:36:58,100 --> 01:37:02,201
in the city alone. So it's most

3177
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:06,100
likely that the city would.

3178
01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:09,601
Would have a contractor do that

3179
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:15,100
because of those high labor and

3180
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,100
insurance costs.

3181
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:18,100
>> That's good. I did have

3182
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:20,100
one. I think

3183
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:22,100
that's probably does make

3184
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:23,100
sense that would be the

3185
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:26,100
way we want to go. Just wanted

3186
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,100
to interrogate it a little bit.

3187
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:29,100
There's one portion

3188
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:31,100
that I don't think I heard. It

3189
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:33,100
kind of, you know, jumped out

3190
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,100
at me when I read it and that's

3191
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,100
that this. As I understand it,

3192
01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:39,100
PEPCO is trying

3193
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:41,100
to charge a higher rate for

3194
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,100
their streetlights than they

3195
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:44,100
charge for other electricity

3196
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:46,100
use. I guess that's what you're

3197
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,100
assuming is their intention.

3198
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:49,100
They want to get out

3199
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:51,100
of the streetlight business.

3200
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:52,100
But that hasn't been approved

3201
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:54,100
by the Maryland Public

3202
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:56,100
Service Commission yet.

3203
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,100
Right. So if that does not get

3204
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:01,100
approved, when will we have a

3205
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:03,100
decision there? And if it does

3206
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:05,100
not get approved, would you

3207
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:06,100
recommend we change course

3208
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:08,100
again?

3209
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:10,100
>> I would definitely say once

3210
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:12,100
it gets approved, we should

3211
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:13,100
review it and make sure were

3212
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:15,100
there any additional changes,

3213
01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:17,100
Danny, if you could predict

3214
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:18,100
when that's going

3215
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:19,100
to get through. You got my

3216
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
money? So we have been waiting

3217
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:23,100
for this thing. We've been told

3218
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:25,100
dates. None

3219
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:27,100
of them have come true. This is

3220
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,100
just the difficulty of dealing

3221
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:30,100
with PEPCO. I feel it's another

3222
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:31,100
reason to get as far away

3223
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:34,100
from him as you can.

3224
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:35,100
But I am concerned,

3225
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:37,100
like how much will it change?

3226
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:38,100
But our communication

3227
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:40,100
from them is they do seem

3228
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:41,100
to be establishing that this is

3229
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,100
like what's going to stick.

3230
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,100
It's kind of just getting it

3231
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:46,100
through the timelines right

3232
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:47,100
now.

3233
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,100
But it does appear that

3234
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:52,100
this is what it will be.

3235
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:53,100
>> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?

3236
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:55,100
>> Just if you covered it,

3237
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:56,100
please remind me. But the two

3238
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,100
hundred and plus thousand

3239
01:38:58,100 --> 01:38:59,100
dollars of purchase, is that in

3240
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:00,100
the DPW budget or is it

3241
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:01,100
somewhere accounted for

3242
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:03,100
already?

3243
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:06,100
>> I can answer that there.

3244
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:07,100
The city has had money for

3245
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,100
streetlight replacement and LED

3246
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:10,100
upgrades

3247
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:12,100
in our capital budget every

3248
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
year

3249
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:14,100
for the past several years. So

3250
01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:16,100
we have included money based

3251
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:18,100
on this current recommendation

3252
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,100
in our fiscal 26 CIP budget.

3253
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:24,401
>> Okay.Well, it'll have

3254
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,100
to come back, but...

3255
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,100
>> Always has

3256
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:34,100
to come back to you.

3257
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:36,401
>> Lucky you. All right.

3258
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:43,401
>> Sorry, I couldn't unmute

3259
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:49,100
there. So as far as the

3260
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:51,100
estimate to do the actual

3261
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:53,401
fixture replacement. So that's

3262
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:57,601
all done in house by Tanko.

3263
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:04,100
Are you the contractor or is

3264
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:05,100
that something that you have

3265
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:07,100
subcontractors for?

3266
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:09,100
>> Great question. So there'll

3267
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:10,100
be three pieces to the pie

3268
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:12,100
for the actual LED conversion.

3269
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:13,100
We're already one

3270
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:14,100
of your established ones.

3271
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,100
We're going

3272
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:17,100
to be the project manager.

3273
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:18,100
We're going to just make sure

3274
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:19,100
that the data is coming back

3275
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:20,100
from the field,

3276
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:21,100
lights are being converted,

3277
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:23,100
the right counts are ordered.

3278
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:24,100
Actually going

3279
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:25,100
to help you procure

3280
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,100
for the material and

3281
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:28,100
for the install separately. So

3282
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:29,100
we're already under contract

3283
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:31,100
for that, and we're going

3284
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:33,100
to be bidding out those items

3285
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:37,201
to make sure we get the best

3286
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:39,100
bang for the buck. Okay, so

3287
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,100
material and install,

3288
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,100
and it's actually the bulk

3289
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,100
of the cost, I want to say. It

3290
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,100
was. It was 577,000 of the

3291
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:48,100
969. So that's.

3292
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:50,100
>> So that's an estimate,

3293
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,100
then?

3294
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:52,100
>> Yes, that's correct. We've

3295
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:53,100
done this enough. We've got

3296
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:54,100
what we think will be

3297
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:56,100
reasonable numbers,

3298
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:57,100
probably a little high

3299
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:58,100
to what we would expect

3300
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:59,100
to see back

3301
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:00,100
from the bid results.

3302
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:02,100
>> Okay, got it. Thank you.

3303
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:03,100
>> Thank you. Thank you for the

3304
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:05,100
presentation and colleagues,

3305
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:07,100
if there are no other

3306
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:08,100
questions, we are going

3307
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,100
to move on in our agenda.

3308
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:11,100
Thank you, folks.

3309
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:16,100
Proclamations. Vice President

3310
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:18,100
Waszczak?

3311
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:20,100
>> 7.a. HCC-361-FY25

3312
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:21,100
Proclamation in Celebration

3313
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:23,401
of June 2025 as LGBTQIA+

3314
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:27,100
Pride Month. I move that the

3315
01:41:27,100 --> 01:41:28,100
Mayor and Council adopt a

3316
01:41:28,100 --> 01:41:30,100
proclamation recognizing and

3317
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,100
honoring June, 2025 as LGBTQIA+

3318
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,100
Pride Month.

3319
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:39,100
7.b. HCC-363-FY25 Proclamation

3320
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:42,100
in Celebration of June 2025 as

3321
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:43,100
Caribbean-American Heritage

3322
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:45,100
Month. I move the Mayor and

3323
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:46,100
Council adopt a proclamation

3324
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,100
recognizing and honoring June

3325
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,100
as Caribbean-American

3326
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:51,100
Heritage Month.

3327
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:53,100
7.c. HCC-364-FY25 Proclamation

3328
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:54,100
in Celebration of June 2025 as

3329
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,100
Immigrant Heritage Month. I

3330
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:57,100
move the Mayor and Council

3331
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:58,100
adopt a proclamation

3332
01:41:58,100 --> 01:42:00,100
recognizing and celebrating

3333
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:01,100
June as Immigrant Heritage

3334
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:03,100
Month in the City of

3335
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:05,100
Hyattsville.

3336
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:07,100
7.d. HCC-365-FY25

3337
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:08,100
Proclamation Declaring June

3338
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:10,100
6, 2025, as National Gun

3339
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:13,100
Violence Awareness Day. I move

3340
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:15,100
that the Mayor and Council

3341
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:17,100
declare June 6, 2025, as

3342
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:18,100
National Gun Violence

3343
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:19,100
Awareness Day in the City of

3344
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:20,100
Hyattsville.

3345
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
7.e. HCC-366-FY25 Proclamation

3346
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:23,100
in Celebration of Juneteenth. I

3347
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,100
move the Mayor and Council

3348
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:26,100
adopt a Proclamation Observing

3349
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:28,100
and Celebrating June 19,

3350
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:33,100
2025, as Juneteenth in the

3351
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:34,100
City of Hyattsville.

3352
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:36,100
7.f. HCC-369-FY25

3353
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,100
Proclamation Honoring

3354
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:38,100
Riverdale Park Mayor Alan K.

3355
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:39,100
Thompson. I move that the

3356
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:41,100
Mayor and Council adopt a

3357
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,100
proclamation honoring Mayor

3358
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:43,100
Alan K. Thompson for his 16

3359
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:45,100
years of service and dedication

3360
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:47,100
as an elected official to the

3361
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:48,100
Town of Riverdale Park.

3362
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:50,401
>> Is there a second?

3363
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:53,100
>> Second.

3364
01:42:56,100 --> 01:42:57,100
>> Moved and second. All

3365
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:58,100
in favor?

3366
01:42:58,100 --> 01:42:59,100
>> Aye.

3367
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,100
>> Any opposed? Any abstensions?

3368
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:04,601
Okay, the ayes have it. Mr.

3369
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,100
Solomon, action items.

3370
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:13,100
>> Action agenda. 8.a.

3371
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:15,100
HCC-359-FY25 Streetlight

3372
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:16,100
Purchase Authorization. I move

3373
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:17,100
that the Mayor and Council

3374
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,100
authorize the City

3375
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:20,100
Administrator

3376
01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:22,401
to negotiate and enter

3377
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:26,100
into an agreement with PEPCO

3378
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:27,100
for the purchase

3379
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:28,100
of streetlights

3380
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:29,100
within the incorporated City

3381
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:30,100
boundary,

3382
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:32,100
pending legal review.

3383
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:33,100
>> Okay, so we've already

3384
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:34,100
pretty much had a discussion

3385
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:36,100
about this, but Ms. Riddle,

3386
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:37,100
would you like to. Well, first

3387
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:38,100
of all,

3388
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,100
is there a second?

3389
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:40,100
>> Second.

3390
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:41,100
>> Would you like to add more

3391
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:42,100
to this, Ms. Riddle?

3392
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:43,100
>> Mr. Metzl.

3393
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:44,100
>> Thank you, Mayor Croslin. I

3394
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:45,100
think we have fully discussed

3395
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:47,100
this certainly. If the council

3396
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:49,100
have any additional questions,

3397
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:51,100
we'd be happy

3398
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:53,100
to answer them.

3399
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:59,100
>> Colleagues, any other

3400
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,100
questions? Seeing none. It's

3401
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:02,100
been moved. Well, there is one.

3402
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,100
Mr. Nisbett?

3403
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:05,100
>> Sorry if I missed this

3404
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:06,100
during the presentation,

3405
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:08,100
but just one question. For the

3406
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:09,100
street light conversion, how

3407
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:11,100
many companies were considered

3408
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:12,100
and taking on that portion or

3409
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:14,100
were there any companies that

3410
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:15,100
were considered?

3411
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:17,100
>> So we did attempt an RFP

3412
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,401
process. We received one

3413
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:22,100
solicitation from Tanko.

3414
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:24,100
Apparently there's very few

3415
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
companies that actually do the

3416
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,100
kind of work that Jason and his

3417
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:29,100
associates are doing

3418
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:31,100
at this juncture.

3419
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:35,100
>> Okay, thank you so much.

3420
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:38,100
>> You got it.

3421
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:41,100
>> Okay. As I was about

3422
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:43,100
to say,

3423
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:47,100
it's been moved and second.

3424
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:49,100
All in favor?

3425
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:52,100
>> Aye.

3426
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:53,100
>> Anybody opposed? Any

3427
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,100
abstensions? The ayes have it.

3428
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:56,100
So thank you very much,

3429
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:57,100
folks. We are down

3430
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:59,100
to council dialogue. So this is

3431
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:01,100
an opportunity

3432
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:03,100
for anyone who would like

3433
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:05,100
to say anything that they would

3434
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:08,100
like to say to the community or

3435
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:10,100
anyone else,

3436
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:11,100
you can raise your hand. Mr.

3437
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:12,100
Redmond, we'll start

3438
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:13,100
with you very quickly.

3439
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:15,100
>> Welcome to our newest

3440
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:16,100
colleagues. I've said it

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01:45:16,100 --> 01:45:17,100
about 18 times, this will be

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01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,100
the last time I congratulate

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01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:19,100
any of the new folks. So just

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01:45:19,100 --> 01:45:20,100
soak it in for today. I do

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01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,100
truly look forward to working

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01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:25,100
with the new folks and of

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01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:26,100
course my returning and

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01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:28,100
existing colleagues.

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01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:32,100
>> Thank you. Mr. Solomon?

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01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:34,100
>> I can continue

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to congratulate all of you.

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01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:42,100
You're doing a great, great job

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01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:44,100
and welcome. I also wanted

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01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:46,100
to say we have Ward 5 community

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01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:47,100
meeting scheduled for. Nate,

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01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:49,401
when do we skip?

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01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:54,100
>> We have it scheduled for.

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01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
Oh, I just sent an email

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01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:58,100
about it. Tuesday, June 17th

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at 6:30 at the Sovereign.

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01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:03,100
>> As you noticed

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from last meeting, we approved

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$250 for food and drinks. So

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we'll have a great time and be

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01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,100
well informed. And I look

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forward to sharing the stage

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01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:15,100
with our new council colleague.

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Thank you.

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01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:18,100
>> I'm glad you've learned that

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what date it was going

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to be on. Mr. Schaible?

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01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:26,100
>> Yeah, I wanted to kind

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of stay on this theme of

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welcoming our new council

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01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:30,100
members. Great

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01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:33,100
to see you up here

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01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:35,100
on the virtual dais with us.

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01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:37,100
Look forward to working

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01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:38,100
with you more and hearing about

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01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:40,100
your initiatives as council

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01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:42,100
members. I did

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01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:47,601
without being too much of an

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01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:51,100
old crank. I did want

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01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:52,100
to just put this out there

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01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:54,100
for some general thought. You

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01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:55,100
know, we had three meetings

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today as council members,

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and one of them is

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during when most

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01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:04,601
of us work at, you know,

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01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,401
noon. I can't speak

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01:47:12,100 --> 01:47:14,100
for everyone, but I think most

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01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:16,100
of us have Monday through

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01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:17,100
Friday day jobs. And I just

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01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:19,100
wonder if we would want to

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01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
reconsider how we structure

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01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:22,100
these on this transition when

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01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:25,601
we are bringing the new council

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01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:27,100
on. I found today to be pretty

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01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:29,100
harried and distracted from

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01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:30,100
work and other familial

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responsibilities. So I wonder

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01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,100
if we just had consecutive

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01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:35,100
night meetings and kind

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of tried to stay out

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of daytime stuff for council.

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That would be a preference

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of mine. Thank you.

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01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:45,401
>> Thank you. Mr. Haba.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Same note

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01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:53,100
here. I didn't get a chance

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to say this earlier,

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01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:57,100
but I wanted to thank Council

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01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:58,100
member Dennis and

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01:47:58,100 --> 01:48:00,100
Councilmember Sandino

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for their years of service. It

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01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:06,100
was always nice to kind

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01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:08,100
of like, do the number games

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01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:10,100
with Sam, so I really. It's

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01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:11,100
that part and welcome

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01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:14,100
to our new Councilmember. I

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01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:16,401
look forward to working

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01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:20,401
with you. Thank you.

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01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:27,100
>> Ms. Lee?

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01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,100
>> Good evening. I wanted

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01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:31,100
to say welcome to all our new

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01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,100
councilmembers. I look forward

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01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:34,100
to working with all of you

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01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:36,100
during your term. Also, I

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01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:37,100
wanted to remind the residents

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01:48:37,100 --> 01:48:39,100
in 9 zone 9B that parking

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01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:40,100
permit renewal is taking place

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now, January 1st, June 1st

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01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:44,100
through June 30th. So just be

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01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:47,601
mindful of that if you need

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01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:51,601
to renew your parking pass. If

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01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:54,100
you have any questions,

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01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:56,100
please feel free to reach out

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01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:59,100
to me and Councilman Haba.

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01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:02,100
Thank you.

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01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:03,100
>> Thank you. Any other

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01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:05,100
comments? Okay. Seeing none.

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01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:06,100
Can I get a motion

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01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:08,100
to adjourn, please?

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01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:11,100
>> Move.

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01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:15,601
>> Okay. Can we get a second?

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01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:18,100
>> Second.

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01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:20,100
>> Well,

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01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:22,100
at least we got a second.

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01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:23,100
Okay, so it's

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01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:25,100
been moved. It's been second,

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01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:26,100
third, and everything else.

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01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:28,100
All in favor?

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01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:29,100
>> Aye.

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01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,100
>> Any opposed? Abstentions?

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01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
No?

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01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,100
>> Mr. Groenendyk, you're going

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01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:38,601
to stay here with Mr. Redmond

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01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:43,100
and continue the meeting while

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01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:46,100
we leave. That's what council

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01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:49,100
desires. You stay with Mr.

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01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:52,100
Redmond. Everybody else is

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01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:54,401
leaving. Good night, everybody.