[0:07] >> Thank you. Good evening,
[0:08] everyone, and welcome
[0:09] to the first council meeting
[0:10] of the new council. Ms.
[0:13] Taylor.
[0:15] >>[CALLING ROLL]
[0:56] >> Mayor, you have a quorum.
[0:58] >> Thank you, Ms. Taylor.
[0:59] Okay, let's do the Pledge of
[1:01] Allegiance again today.
[1:02] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[1:04] Flag of the United States of
[1:07] America and to the Republic
[1:09] for which it stands, one
[1:11] Nation under God, indivisible,
[1:13] with liberty and justice
[1:15] for all.
[1:20] >> Can I have a motion
[1:21] to approve the agenda,
[1:22] please?
[1:23] >> So moved.
[1:25] >> Second.
[1:26] >> Been moved and seconded.
[1:27] All in favor?
[1:28] >> Aye.
[1:32] >> Any opposed? Any Abstentions?
[1:34] Seeing none,
[1:35] the ayes have it. Public
[1:37] comment.
[1:39] >> We will go to the attendees.
[1:41] If you'd like
[1:42] to make a public comment,
[1:43] please use the raised hand
[1:44] feature now. You will have two
[1:46] minutes to speak. Please state
[1:47] your name and the ward that you
[1:48] live in. We'll start with
[1:50] Melissa Schweisgoth. Melissa,
[1:52] you should be able
[1:53] to unmute yourself.
[1:56] >> Good evening,
[1:57] mayor and council. Can you hear
[1:59] me?
[2:00] >> Yes, we can.
[2:02] >> Great. So welcome
[2:03] to our new councilors. We're
[2:04] really excited
[2:05] for the new energy to come to
[2:06] the council and you all ran
[2:07] great campaigns. I appreciate
[2:08] that. Very positive. My name is
[2:10] Melissa Schweizekuth. I live
[2:11] in Ward 5. Wanted
[2:12] to speak very quickly in the
[2:13] West Hyattsville Corner
[2:15] Queens Chapel sector plan and
[2:16] sma. I understand you're
[2:17] getting a presentation this
[2:18] evening. And my understanding
[2:20] is that the county,
[2:21] the city will. Then the council
[2:22] will recommend some comments
[2:23] that the city will send. I did
[2:25] want to flag the upzoning that
[2:26] they're proposing to change
[2:27] every single RSF65 property
[2:29] to RSFA,
[2:30] which means that right now,
[2:32] properties that have only one
[2:33] home on them would be able
[2:34] to put up to three, you know,
[2:36] a townhouse, a three unit
[2:37] townhouse, or a triplex, or
[2:38] possibly two houses. I don't
[2:40] oppose that for my property,
[2:42] but it is a really big change.
[2:44] I think Hyattsville really
[2:46] needs to think
[2:48] about the impacts. And
[2:49] Hyattsville did ask the county
[2:50] to do a missing middle study
[2:52] and they did one,
[2:53] but it didn't look
[2:55] at the impacts. So you might
[2:56] want to go back, you know,
[2:57] if you really do want that
[2:58] study to look
[3:00] at how much this will impact
[3:01] Hyattsville and our
[3:03] infrastructure,
[3:04] really push them
[3:06] to do that study. Before they
[3:08] do make the final decision
[3:10] to implement, I would like to
[3:12] see it be optional. I am a
[3:13] little concerned that it's
[3:15] going
[3:16] to raise my property taxes,
[3:17] it'll increase the land value
[3:19] and I am concerned
[3:20] about that that impact
[3:21] on others getting priced out.
[3:23] There are recommendations for
[3:24] mitigating gentrification and
[3:25] pricing out of the market,
[3:26] but really none
[3:27] of those are realistic. So I
[3:29] hope that we can really push
[3:30] on the county to have more
[3:32] of an implementation plan
[3:34] around there so we don't see
[3:36] displacement as a result
[3:37] of this plan. And
[3:38] on the street lights,
[3:40] I certainly support conversion
[3:43] to LED. I would like to see the
[3:46] city do this as a competitive
[3:48] bid, not necessarily go with
[3:50] the contractor that did the
[3:52] study and is provides a
[3:53] service. And please make sure
[3:55] that these are dark
[3:57] sky compliant
[3:59] like the lights that we put
[4:01] on the trolley trail. Thank
[4:04] you. Have a great night.
[4:08] >> Back to the attendees. If
[4:09] you'd like to make a comment,
[4:10] please use the raised hand
[4:11] feature. Mr. Marshall, you
[4:14] should be able
[4:16] to unmute yourself.
[4:20] >> My name is
[4:22] Marshall. I live in Ward 4. I
[4:23] wanted to say welcome to the
[4:25] new council members. I hope
[4:27] that you have a very productive
[4:28] four years in your new
[4:30] positions. I am not going
[4:32] to talk
[4:34] about the sector plan because
[4:36] in my opinion it's useless.
[4:38] It's the county's going
[4:40] to go forward
[4:41] with it and we're going
[4:42] to be stuck
[4:45] with is how I see it. And you
[4:47] know, it is what it is. So I
[4:49] won't beat that dead horse.
[4:51] The dead horse I will beat
[4:53] happens to be the elections.
[4:54] The city elections.
[4:56] My family and I,
[4:59] if you go look
[5:00] at the records, did not vote
[5:01] in the last two elections
[5:03] in this city. One, we were
[5:05] moved from the ward we were in
[5:06] to Ward 4. This would be the
[5:08] second time our ward was
[5:10] changed which essentially our
[5:11] previous vote we voted for.
[5:13] Our votes essentially got
[5:17] thrown away because we got
[5:20] thrown out of our ward. Also,
[5:25] each ward has two council
[5:27] members. I can seem
[5:29] to only communicate with one
[5:31] of my council members. The
[5:32] other one won't have a
[5:34] conversation with me. So I
[5:35] don't feel
[5:37] like I'm represented. So why
[5:38] bother casting a vote? Thanks
[5:39] for your time.
[5:44] >> Back to the attendees,
[5:45] if you'd like
[5:46] to make a comment, please use
[5:47] the raised hand feature. Kurt
[5:52] Britzenhoff, you should be able
[5:54] to unmute yourself.
[5:58] >> Good afternoon, council
[6:00] members. This My name is Kurt
[6:01] Britzenhoff. I live in Ward 5.
[6:03] I agree with what Melissa
[6:05] Schweissgouth just said. So
[6:06] that basically takes care of my
[6:07] spiel right there. I do want
[6:09] to state though, I'm not sure
[6:10] if the prices are going
[6:12] to go up or if the prices for
[6:13] the lots or our houses are
[6:14] going to go down when they
[6:16] start implementing the sector
[6:17] plan. That is not clear. I have
[6:20] not seen it addressed in the
[6:21] 521 pages they provided. If it
[6:22] does go down, you know,
[6:24] being old and retired,
[6:27] I don't care. I'm going
[6:28] to die here. But for the young
[6:30] people that this is their main
[6:32] investment,
[6:33] that could be a real hit
[6:34] on their fund. So I hope
[6:36] somebody's looking
[6:37] at that and I hope that this,
[6:38] the county and the city
[6:40] understand that prices aren't
[6:41] going to go down.
[6:42] But I don't know that. So that
[6:44] is a good question
[6:46] to ask and also to relay
[6:47] to some of the younger folks
[6:48] around here. Thank you.
[6:57] >> Back to the attendees. If
[6:58] you'd like to make a comment,
[6:59] use the raised hand feature.
[7:02] Pat Padua, you should be able
[7:06] to unmute yourself.
[7:11] >> Thank you. Good evening,
[7:12] councilmembers. My name is
[7:14] Pat Padua. I'm in Ward 3, which
[7:16] I an unincorporated part
[7:17] of the area,
[7:19] which I believe is not
[7:20] under the jurisdiction
[7:22] of the city of Hyattsville.
[7:25] And my question and comment is
[7:26] about the rezoning proposal.
[7:27] It is my understanding that
[7:29] in the previous draft
[7:31] of the proposal, Avondale
[7:33] Grove, which is the
[7:34] neighborhood where I live
[7:36] in and of which I'm president
[7:38] of the citizens Association.
[7:39] Pardon the dogs. Avondale
[7:41] Grove was not part
[7:44] of the original plan. And
[7:45] in draft three,
[7:47] it has suddenly become part
[7:49] of the plan. Now, we don't know
[7:51] why the city of Hyattsville
[7:53] has added Avondale Grove
[7:55] without any
[7:56] of our residents input
[7:58] into this rezoning plan. And
[8:00] I've spoken to my neighbors and
[8:01] fellow members of the board and
[8:03] we're all roundly opposed
[8:06] to it for a variety
[8:07] of reasons. Safety, historical,
[8:09] infrastructure,
[8:11] environmental. I could go on,
[8:12] but I only have a few minutes.
[8:14] But I just want
[8:15] to express our opposition
[8:17] to being part of this plan.
[8:18] You can do what you want
[8:20] in other areas of
[8:22] Heightsville. Avondale Grove is
[8:23] a charming,
[8:25] unique community and we want to
[8:27] preserve its quality and its
[8:28] safety for residents who are
[8:31] aging and the young families
[8:33] coming into the neighborhood.
[8:35] Thank you for your time.
[8:43] >> Back to the attendees. Last
[8:46] call for anybody that would
[8:49] like
[8:50] to make a public comment,
[8:52] please use the raised hand
[8:53] feature. Sharon Stokes, you
[8:54] should be able
[8:56] to unmute yourself.
[8:58] >> Hey, my name is Rossell
[8:59] Durant. I'm under calling
[9:01] under Sharon Stokes,
[9:03] but I live in the area of
[9:05] Avondale Terrace. Mr. Padua
[9:06] mentioned Avondale Grove,
[9:08] but there's also Avondale
[9:10] Terrace and North Woodridge.
[9:11] That's also included
[9:13] in the change
[9:16] to the sector plan. And I ditto
[9:18] everything that he said
[9:20] regarding this. We were not
[9:23] included in the discussion as
[9:25] far as I know of. I happen
[9:27] to be president of the Avon
[9:28] Ridge CDC,
[9:30] which is a sister organization
[9:32] to Mr. Padua's organization.
[9:35] So everything he said, I
[9:38] ditto but I wanted to make.
[9:40] He mentioned Avondale Grove. I
[9:42] wanted to mention Avondale
[9:44] Terrace in addition to North
[9:46] Woodridge. Thank you.
[9:56] >> Back to the attendees. If
[9:57] you'd like to make a comment,
[9:58] please use the raised hand
[10:01] feature. Seeing none. That
[10:05] concludes public comment.
[10:06] >> Thank you. Mr. Groenendyk. I
[10:07] don't think that we added any
[10:08] additional territory to
[10:10] Hyattville, did we? Mr.
[10:11] Solomon, did you have a comment
[10:14] to me?
[10:16] >> We did not. But the planning
[10:17] board.
[10:18] For council members and staff,
[10:19] Avondale is the neighborhood
[10:21] that sits between us and the
[10:22] District of Columbia and I
[10:25] thank their members
[10:30] for attending tonight.
[10:32] But it's not the city of
[10:33] Hyattsville who has added
[10:35] additional portions
[10:36] of your community because
[10:38] Avondale was always included
[10:39] in the sector plan update. The
[10:41] planning board and the. This
[10:43] would be the planning board and
[10:46] the district council who has
[10:48] expanded what they. What they
[10:50] need to look at. So the person
[10:52] that you would need to speak
[10:54] to is Councilwoman Fisher
[10:56] in order to resolve the
[10:57] discrepancies that you have
[10:58] Hyattsville.
[11:00] But we're just responding
[11:01] to what they sent to us. We
[11:03] don't make the changes
[11:04] around what areas
[11:07] are included. We just talk
[11:09] about the areas that are
[11:10] specific to Hyattsville
[11:11] in the map. Thank you.
[11:14] >> Thank you
[11:16] for that clarification. Ms.
[11:17] Douglas, you're up.
[11:18] >> Okay, thank you. Mayor and
[11:19] council and residents,
[11:20] welcome. I'm going
[11:22] to share my screen.
[11:44] Are you seeing that?
[11:46] >> Yes, we got it.
[11:47] >> Okay, good. All right,
[11:49] I'm going to move
[11:50] through this fairly quickly, so
[11:52] this is the agenda that I will
[11:53] follow. Just pull this over. I
[12:01] do want to once again,
[12:03] and I know you've heard it a
[12:05] few times, but I want to
[12:07] welcome our new councilmembers.
[12:10] They were sworn
[12:12] in this afternoon. Tracy, can
[12:14] you fix your screen?
[12:16] >> Yeah. We're seeing resume
[12:18] slideshow.
[12:21] >> You're not seeing the
[12:22] slideshow?
[12:24] >> Nope.
[12:25] >> Now we are.
[12:26] >> Oh, okay. All right. So am I
[12:27] on? Let's see. All right, how
[12:28] about now? You seeing the new
[12:30] councilmembers?
[12:31] >> We got it.
[12:32] >> All right, so these are the
[12:34] new councilmembers that were
[12:35] sworn in today. Councilmember
[12:36] Barnes for Ward 1.
[12:38] Councilmember Dhokai, Ward 3.
[12:39] Councilmember Nisbett from
[12:41] Ward 5. Those are the new
[12:42] councilmembers. And we want
[12:44] to welcome back councilmember
[12:46] Strab and councilmember Haba.
[12:48] Councilmember Schaible, Ward 2
[12:51] and Haba, Ward 4. Ladies and
[12:53] gentlemen, this is your new
[12:55] city council. I want
[12:57] to just acknowledge Ms.
[13:02] Dorothy Mims, who
[13:04] lives in Independence court.
[13:07] She is 112 years old this
[13:09] month,
[13:11] and she's been a resident of
[13:13] Hyattsville since 2010, the
[13:14] oldest living resident
[13:16] in the state of Maryland.
[13:17] Her mother, in fact,
[13:20] lived to be 102. So I just want
[13:23] to acknowledge her and let her
[13:24] know that we're happy
[13:25] to have her here in
[13:27] Hyattsville. And mayor and
[13:29] council members, we may go
[13:30] by and visit Ms. Mims.
[13:32] But isn't she beautiful? Look
[13:33] at that. When she was younger.
[13:36] We're just happy to have her.
[13:39] She's still beautiful. All
[13:41] right. Leslie is stepping down.
[13:43] Leslie's been serving on mml.
[13:44] She's been the MML league and
[13:45] most recently president
[13:47] for the last seven years. She
[13:48] decided not to run
[13:49] for re election.
[13:50] But you'll see here some of the
[13:52] things that she actually helped
[13:53] lead as many
[13:54] of the other cities in
[13:56] Maryland through COVID,
[13:57] Snowstorms, political
[13:59] landscapes, heat waves. She's
[14:00] done a lot. It is time for her
[14:02] to step down. So they will be
[14:03] acknowledging her
[14:05] at this upcoming MML session.
[14:07] But she's been an asset
[14:08] to them. And so we thank
[14:10] Leslie
[14:11] for representing the city of
[14:13] Hyattsville and all of her.
[14:15] All of our municipal partners
[14:17] in the state of Maryland. We
[14:19] also want to acknowledge that
[14:21] they hosted a DPW open house.
[14:22] And so we thank them
[14:23] for doing that. You can see two
[14:24] of our council members riding
[14:26] in our trash trucks. I think
[14:27] that's one
[14:29] of our newest trash trucks.
[14:30] And you know,
[14:32] the guys just had it. Guys and
[14:33] ladies just had a great time
[14:35] out there that day.
[14:36] It was a rainy day. But we do
[14:38] appreciate council member,
[14:40] Dr. And Councilor Redmond
[14:42] participating and coming
[14:45] out the visit. Long
[14:47] awaited. We finally got that
[14:49] sign up. Ward wards 4 and 5.
[14:51] We now have a sign right
[14:53] over there by Kaiser
[14:54] Permanente. The residents
[14:55] in that area will now be able
[14:56] to find out what's going on
[14:58] in the city of Hyattsville. So
[14:59] stay tuned for any updates.
[15:00] Our K9 did some great work.
[15:03] Hugo and Forest, we have two of
[15:06] them and they won first place
[15:08] awards. They were the best
[15:09] of the best. And you know,
[15:11] we continue
[15:12] to have our K9s place. So we're
[15:14] always really excited. It's
[15:16] Corporal Hodges and Acting
[15:18] Sergeant Quevedo who are their
[15:19] partners and trainers. So we're
[15:21] just really proud
[15:22] of our two K9s. And we just had
[15:27] a police unity tour. Scott
[15:30] Hurley rides
[15:32] in that every year. He's done
[15:33] that for the past 13 years
[15:34] over 250 mile ride with people
[15:35] from across the region. And so
[15:37] we just want to thank him
[15:39] for doing that. He does that
[15:40] in honor of fallen officers and
[15:42] specifically rides
[15:44] for our own fallen officers,
[15:45] Corporal Robert King, who
[15:47] passed away in. Who died in
[15:50] 1984 in the line of duty
[15:52] on a motorcycle. Chief, if you
[15:53] were on. I'll let you talk
[15:55] about this. I asked Chief
[15:57] to talk about this just a
[15:58] little bit because whenever we
[16:00] contract with an agency and
[16:02] they're doing great work
[16:04] for us, I just want you all to
[16:05] know how they're representing
[16:07] our community. JP there.
[16:20] >> Yes, ma' am. Sorry about
[16:21] that. I'm having a computer
[16:22] issue over here. So Kathy is an
[16:24] organization that council
[16:25] approved a contract with that
[16:27] provides victim services to
[16:28] police departments throughout
[16:30] the county. They are tied
[16:32] into our CAD and RMS system.
[16:33] So they receive automatic
[16:35] reports from our RMS once
[16:36] our officers file a report.
[16:39] And then they contact victims
[16:41] of crimes to make sure that
[16:42] they have the resources they
[16:44] need, ranging from housing,
[16:45] mental health resources,
[16:48] assistance
[16:50] with financial fraud, things
[16:51] of that nature. So so far,
[16:52] for the first quarter of
[16:54] 2025, they had 65 referrals.
[16:56] They break that down. The
[16:58] average age of a victim was 33
[16:59] years old. You can see there
[17:01] was a little bit more. That
[17:03] number's a little bit higher on
[17:05] the female versus male victims.
[17:07] And then the crimes that
[17:08] they contacted victims were
[17:10] for assault, financial fraud,
[17:12] domestic incidents, robbery,
[17:13] rape and sexual assault and
[17:14] carjacking, with domestic
[17:16] incidents and assaults being
[17:17] the highest and then also
[17:19] sexual assaults. They provide a
[17:21] report back to us
[17:22] for the quarter. This is the
[17:24] first time we're receiving a
[17:26] quarterly report that we can
[17:27] share with with the community
[17:28] that shows the types
[17:31] of crimes that the victims are.
[17:33] The types of crimes that
[17:34] victims are being receiving
[17:36] services from Cafey. I believe
[17:37] that's it.
[17:39] >> Yeah. Thank you. And I just
[17:41] thought it was important
[17:43] for you all
[17:44] to hear a little bit about that
[17:45] because we've always been
[17:46] concerned that if a person is a
[17:47] victim
[17:48] of crime that we follow up
[17:49] with them, make sure they're
[17:50] getting the resources and the
[17:52] help that they need. So this is
[17:53] one of the programs that you
[17:54] all allowed us to partner
[17:55] with and contract with
[17:57] to do that for our community.
[17:58] So I just wanted you to hear
[17:59] that they are doing
[18:00] great work here
[18:03] in the community. Okay. And
[18:05] then we had a community
[18:07] conversation last week,
[18:09] last Thursday, I believe it
[18:11] was. The title was Bridging
[18:12] Faith through Interfaith
[18:14] Engagement. And we had five,
[18:16] as you can see there, five
[18:17] different religious leaders
[18:19] that came together and spoke
[18:21] Hindu Buddha, Rabbi, our own
[18:22] pastor, Penn Islam. It
[18:26] was a really good conversation.
[18:29] They really, they focused
[18:32] on what things we have
[18:34] in common, regardless
[18:36] of the faith.
[18:37] How are we alike
[18:39] in more ways than not? And so
[18:41] we appreciate our partners.
[18:42] It's Kelly Barillo, Julia
[18:44] Gaspar Bates, and Ann Claire
[18:46] Stacy who are the ones that
[18:48] always put that together
[18:49] for us and host these. And they
[18:50] come up
[18:51] with the topics and work
[18:52] with our own Shakira Louimar
[18:54] to pull these
[18:55] off and make these happen.
[18:57] Okay. And then I want
[18:59] to thank members
[19:00] of the community and some
[19:01] of our council members. You can
[19:02] see councilmember Waszczak
[19:03] there who participated
[19:05] in interviewing some
[19:06] of our young adults. Young, our
[19:08] youth 16. Sandra, correct me,
[19:11] I think it's 15 through 18
[19:13] members that we would like
[19:15] to be part of our youth
[19:17] Advisory Council. They
[19:18] participated
[19:19] in our leadership program. And
[19:20] so then we just kind of sit
[19:21] down and talk to them and
[19:23] determine if they are the right
[19:24] group to actually lead us
[19:25] for the next year. So I
[19:27] appreciate everyone that
[19:28] participated and helped us make
[19:30] the selections and
[19:31] help the kids learn how to
[19:33] interview and answer questions
[19:34] and take on some leadership
[19:37] responsibility. Sandra,
[19:38] am I missing anything there?
[19:40] >> No, ma' am.
[19:42] >> Thank you
[19:45] to your team, for doing that.
[19:47] And then they also did the
[19:48] Aging and Wellness Lunch and
[19:49] Learn Workshop. And that was
[19:52] the, that was for seniors. So
[19:55] we call that Aging and
[19:56] Wellness Programs. But they did
[19:58] a Dawn Taft, our resident
[19:59] arborist, spoke to the seniors
[20:01] about environmental programs
[20:02] and some of the things that the
[20:04] city offers. And then tomorrow
[20:05] we'll have the Art Home is
[20:07] Art Class, and it'll be the
[20:09] last class for that. But that
[20:11] always gets a really great
[20:12] turnout. And our seniors love
[20:13] coming out and working
[20:15] on art projects. So we'll
[20:16] resume again after the
[20:17] summer. Back to
[20:19] School Supply Drive and
[20:21] Summer Jam. So Summer Jams,
[20:23] this is the schedule. So we'll
[20:25] have the Back to School
[20:26] Supply Drive on August 15th.
[20:28] So that's just a reminder that
[20:30] people can begin dropping
[20:31] off donations now
[20:33] until the end of, until August
[20:35] 15th. And then our Summer Jam
[20:39] series. The schedule is the
[20:41] Pride Month celebration.
[20:42] That's on June 20th. Then we
[20:44] have a backyard barbecue.
[20:46] That's going to be July 28th.
[20:47] Sorry, July 18th, right here
[20:49] at the city Building. And then
[20:50] International Heritage,
[20:51] Hispanic heritage. That'll be
[20:53] September 19th. August is
[20:55] missing there, as you can see.
[20:57] But that is usually National
[20:58] Night Out. So we,
[21:00] we focus there on National
[21:02] Night Out. And that's also
[21:04] going
[21:06] to be the time that we're going
[21:08] to be doing the back
[21:10] to school drive. And our teen
[21:12] center is really coming along.
[21:14] The interior is looking
[21:16] absolutely fabulous. They've
[21:18] done some painting in there.
[21:21] They put in the new floors and
[21:22] walls which look really,
[21:24] looking really good. And then
[21:25] the equipment's installed
[21:26] around the outside. They
[21:28] started working
[21:29] on the park outside. So it's
[21:30] looking good. If you have a
[21:31] chance to drive by, you'll see
[21:32] some, some really nice things
[21:34] happening out there. So we're
[21:35] getting excited. I am not going
[21:36] to read all of the offerings
[21:37] this time because as you know,
[21:39] we have a six week break
[21:40] after this. And so it is a lot
[21:41] of reading. So I will read the
[21:42] weekly offerings. Just remind
[21:43] everyone we have the seated
[21:44] exercise class
[21:45] for older adults. We have the
[21:46] Zumba class, that both
[21:47] of those are on Mondays. I'm
[21:49] sorry, Monday and Wednesday
[21:50] for the Zumba. And the exercise
[21:51] classes on Wednesdays only
[21:52] from 10 to 11. That's seated
[21:54] for older adults. And then the
[21:55] digital literacy instruction
[21:56] classes are on Wednesdays as
[21:58] well from 12
[21:59] to 1pm all.
[22:02] This is what I mean
[22:03] about reading. It's a lot. So
[22:05] these are all of the committees
[22:07] that are coming up
[22:08] for the residents. These will
[22:09] all be posted online. And if
[22:11] you have any questions and you
[22:12] have a problem finding these or
[22:13] looking online, feel free to
[22:15] call our number and we can talk
[22:17] to you about it then. And we
[22:18] always put out notices, so if
[22:20] you're not getting our text
[22:21] alerts, please sign up
[22:23] for those. And here's some more
[22:24] upcoming events. I'm just going
[22:25] to scan through these and see
[22:27] if there's any Community
[22:28] Shred Day. I do want
[22:30] to acknowledge that that's
[22:33] Saturday, September 7th. We
[22:34] have not had that in a while,
[22:37] Ward 1. I also will acknowledge
[22:40] that one. That's the
[22:41] Saturday, June 7th. That's the
[22:43] check in. We will likely have a
[22:44] walk and talk. The first one
[22:46] this month, that will be with
[22:47] Ward 2. But we'll get back
[22:49] to everyone with the date
[22:50] of that. And you'll see that
[22:52] seniors on the go are also
[22:53] having a cookout on June 10th.
[22:55] And so you see some other
[22:57] things. There's a traffic
[22:58] calming public hearing and
[23:00] let's see, that's on June 11th.
[23:03] Okay. And let me go
[23:05] to the next one.
[23:06] But there's a lot going on. So
[23:08] all of this again is listed on
[23:09] our website. I just don't want
[23:11] to go through it all.
[23:12] I will acknowledge the
[23:14] Trolley Trail Day that's on
[23:16] Saturday, June 14th. And then
[23:18] staycation registration opens
[23:20] today and it's going to go
[23:21] through June 17th. So if you're
[23:23] interested in signing up
[23:26] for that, there's some early
[23:27] dismissal camps Juneteenth.
[23:28] Our offices are closed
[23:30] on that day. That's June 19th.
[23:31] >> So, Ms. Douglas.
[23:32] >> Yes.
[23:35] >> When is Community Shred?
[23:36] >> Let me go right back to that
[23:38] because I'm sorry I moved.
[23:40] Let's see. Community Shred day
[23:45] is Saturday, June 7th.
[23:57] >> Okay.
[23:59] >> I thought you said
[24:01] September.
[24:03] >> I hope I didn't,
[24:05] but if I did, I do apologize
[24:06] for that. Saturday, June 7,
[24:08] from 10 to 1pm that's
[24:09] Community Shred Day.
[24:10] >> Thank you.
[24:12] >> Okay. You're welcome. Let's
[24:13] see. Business license renewal,
[24:14] Monday the 30th and parking,
[24:15] residential parking permits
[24:16] for Zone 4 is also
[24:18] on the 30th. Again, these will
[24:19] all be listed on the website so
[24:22] you can find them. And then my
[24:23] last slide. I do want
[24:25] to wish several members of the
[24:27] staff and council a very happy
[24:29] birthday. They will celebrate
[24:30] their birthdays while we're
[24:32] going. Director Riddle just had
[24:34] her birthday this past
[24:36] Saturday. Council member
[24:37] Redmond, June 18. Council
[24:38] member Barnes, June 26. Chief
[24:39] of police is on July 1. Our own
[24:41] deputy city clerk is July 7.
[24:42] And our deputy chief
[24:44] of police is July 16. All these
[24:45] before we meet again. So I do
[24:48] want
[24:51] to just acknowledge that. And
[24:53] mayor and council, that is it
[24:55] for me. I'm going
[24:56] to stop share in case you have
[24:58] any questions.
[24:59] >> Thank you. Colleagues, any
[25:02] questions? Mr. Schaible?
[25:06] >> Yeah, there was one event on
[25:07] the calendar that I wasn't
[25:09] familiar with. I think it said
[25:10] 43rd street meeting on 43rd
[25:12] in Jefferson. It was tomorrow.
[25:15] Do you have more details
[25:19] on what that event is?
[25:25] >> Leslie, do you have that
[25:26] one?
[25:28] >> It's a traffic calming
[25:29] meeting with the residents.
[25:30] There was a petition there,
[25:32] as far as I know.
[25:33] >> We've had a couple meetings
[25:35] with residents.
[25:36] >> We've had lots of meetings
[25:38] over the last three weeks,
[25:39] I would say.
[25:41] But this one is tomorrow from
[25:43] at 6pm and it's the
[25:45] intersection Jefferson and
[25:47] 43rd.
[25:49] >> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?
[25:52] >> Thank you. Happy belated
[25:56] birthday to our DPW director.
[25:58] And I will give you the gift
[26:00] of a question
[26:01] for all these traffic meetings.
[26:03] What is the plan? I know there
[26:05] is one. I just don't know it.
[26:08] As far as there's a bunch
[26:13] of intake right now. When will
[26:14] we start to see kind
[26:16] of whatever that next step is
[26:18] coming back around?
[26:19] >> Thank you, councilmember.
[26:24] And unfortunately, Taylor's
[26:26] been working hard at getting
[26:28] these separate petitions and
[26:29] requests together as
[26:31] collaboratively
[26:35] as possible. It's a good thing,
[26:37] but it's also a bad thing
[26:38] because it takes us away
[26:42] from a lot of the larger
[26:43] projects that were recommended
[26:44] in the traffic study. And so it
[26:46] compartmentalizes our capacity
[26:47] to really get things done,
[26:48] like we're trying to do in
[26:51] West Hyattsville. In the
[26:53] West Hyattsville project,
[26:54] which is now along Jamestown
[26:56] Road. A lot of different things
[26:57] we're working on
[26:59] with several different of our
[27:01] firms that we've contracted
[27:03] with. So, I mean, ultimately,
[27:05] it's to come to a decision.
[27:07] It's to start
[27:08] with a temporary mitigation,
[27:10] which is often more permanent.
[27:12] Like on Jefferson, we did
[27:14] temporary, but that will
[27:15] eventually become permanent,
[27:16] if indeed it is effective. So
[27:19] that's typically how we go
[27:20] about this, but she has seven
[27:22] or eight petitions already,
[27:24] and so it really drags us
[27:25] around to different.
[27:28] Like I said,
[27:30] it's good and yet it's
[27:31] difficult because it takes away
[27:32] a lot of our energy
[27:34] from larger projects. If that
[27:36] makes sense to you.
[27:39] >> That does. I guess my second
[27:40] question is, I just saw,
[27:43] or just saw
[27:46] through this presentation, the
[27:48] January or June 10th
[27:49] Belchrest Road meeting. Do you
[27:52] know if anyone from the city
[27:54] will be there?
[27:57] >> Yes, I know for sure.
[27:59] Taylor will be there, and I
[28:01] will probably be there as well.
[28:02] >> And if I cannot make it
[28:04] because there's another meeting
[28:05] happening,
[28:06] then will we elevate the
[28:07] concern
[28:09] of just the current state of
[28:11] Belchrest Road, specifically.
[28:12] >> Okay.
[28:14] >> I mean, I know the part
[28:15] with the 711 being built.
[28:17] I get that.
[28:19] But the intersection of
[28:20] East West, where it looks
[28:21] like craters,
[28:22] and then the fire station. So
[28:24] I'm just putting this
[28:25] out here. If I'm not there,
[28:27] someone's going to need
[28:30] to hear
[28:31] about it. I'm just asking.
[28:32] >> They've heard
[28:33] about it repeatedly from us.
[28:34] Yeah, but it's good. They'll
[28:35] hear it again.
[28:36] >> Okay, thank you.
[28:38] >> I think we invite all
[28:39] of the councilmembers
[28:40] to these meetings, but what
[28:42] we'll do is just send an email
[28:43] out with a list of the upcoming
[28:44] meetings so that the council
[28:46] members can put them
[28:48] on their calendars. Yeah.
[28:51] Because it sounded
[28:52] like you and you and
[28:54] Councilman Shively weren't
[28:55] aware of meetings
[28:56] in your area, so. Yeah, so
[28:57] we'll make sure we get that
[28:59] out. Nate, would you just make
[29:01] a note on that, please? Good.
[29:03] Yeah. Taylor's been working
[29:05] hard, just trying to get
[29:07] out and about and meet with
[29:08] residents who have written us
[29:10] just to understand their
[29:11] concerns and walk the area
[29:13] with them. Some of these will
[29:14] also lend themselves to the
[29:16] walk and talks that we're
[29:17] scheduling where the DPW
[29:18] director, the Chief of Police
[29:19] and any other leadership will
[29:20] come out and walk
[29:21] with the councilmembers
[29:23] in the communities through
[29:25] their neighborhoods.
[29:28] >> Okay, thank you. Anyone else
[29:29] have any questions? Seeing
[29:32] none. Thank you, Ms. Douglas.
[29:33] >> You're welcome. Thank you.
[29:36] >> Okay, we are going to move
[29:37] on now. We have a presentation,
[29:38] the West Hyattsville-Queens
[29:42] Chapel Sector Plan. So who's
[29:47] going to take that
[29:48] from staff?
[29:50] >> Jeff will lead that.
[29:51] >> Okay, Jeff.
[29:53] >> Good evening and welcome to
[29:55] all the new councilmembers and
[29:56] the existing ones as well.
[29:57] This afternoon we have this
[29:59] presentation as mentioned,
[30:00] est Hyattsville-Queens Chapel
[30:01] Sector Plan update. This has
[30:03] been for been
[30:05] before the council a number
[30:06] of times. July 22, 2022. It was
[30:09] before you the first iteration
[30:10] of this plan. The second
[30:13] iteration was released May
[30:15] of last year. However, there's
[30:17] been some. Essentially there
[30:19] was a request
[30:21] by the planning department
[30:22] to remand the staff draft two
[30:24] for essentially
[30:25] to reconsider the Queen's
[30:27] Chapel Manor and other
[30:29] neighborhoods
[30:30] for the missing middle housing,
[30:32] as well as
[30:34] to analyze the impacts of the
[30:37] Housing Expansion
[30:39] Affordability act that was
[30:41] signed to law this past year.
[30:43] 2024, April of 2024, as well as
[30:46] I believe, a number
[30:48] of other concerns. So we have
[30:50] Parker planning staff that
[30:51] that's essentially here as well
[30:53] as. Looks like we have
[30:54] Director hall that will be
[30:56] on the call with us as well
[30:57] that will provide us
[30:59] with a briefing
[31:01] on their findings
[31:03] in this new iteration, which
[31:04] you, which you can find
[31:06] on the website,
[31:08] the city's website. There's a
[31:09] link for that if you'd like
[31:11] to review that. Feel free
[31:12] to do so. Last summer we did
[31:14] have a number of questions,
[31:15] concerns that were submitted
[31:16] to parking planning staff. Did
[31:18] it provide a response?
[31:20] But I think this, this period
[31:22] of research and additional
[31:24] analysis has offered some
[31:25] additional information that I
[31:26] think council and the community
[31:27] at large could benefit from.
[31:29] So tonight I'd like
[31:30] to introduce Tony Felt, Thomas
[31:31] Lester, Justin Thornton and
[31:32] of course Director Hall
[31:34] to provide the presentation
[31:35] for tonight.
[31:45] >> Okay, who's going
[31:46] to present?
[31:51] >> I can kick off the
[31:52] presentation. Looks
[31:54] like we're all set. Can
[32:02] everyone see the PowerPoint?
[32:05] >> Yes, we see it.
[32:07] >> Great. Thank you, Mayor,
[32:08] members of the council
[32:11] for the City of Hyattsville.
[32:12] I'm Thomas Lester, the
[32:14] Project Manager. Tonight,
[32:15] along with the Deputy Project
[32:16] Manager, Justin Thornton, we'll
[32:18] discuss the major changes
[32:20] to the third draft of the
[32:22] West Hyattsville-Queens
[32:24] Chapel Sector Plan and
[32:25] sectional map amendment. I'm
[32:27] also joined this evening by
[32:28] Tony Felt, Deputy Planning
[32:30] Director of Administration and
[32:31] I believe Lakeisha Hall, the
[32:34] Planning Directors.
[32:36] Also listening
[32:38] in the purpose
[32:39] of today's presentation is
[32:41] to introduce the third draft of
[32:43] the sector plan and the
[32:45] sectional map amendment and
[32:47] highlight the major changes
[32:48] between the second and the
[32:52] third drafts,
[32:55] specifically those that affect
[32:59] Hyattsville
[33:00] within the city limits. Next
[33:02] slide please. So tonight I'll
[33:03] first provide a quick
[33:05] background
[33:06] of the project and then Justin
[33:08] will dive into the major
[33:09] changes that have been applied
[33:10] since the second draft and then
[33:12] I'll conclude by going over the
[33:16] current schedule and what the
[33:18] next steps
[33:20] in the process are. Next slide
[33:22] please. In terms
[33:23] of the background,
[33:24] here's the timeline
[33:26] of key events
[33:27] for the plan and the SMA,
[33:28] highlighting the important
[33:29] milestones
[33:30] in the process leading up
[33:31] to today. On January 18,
[33:33] 2022, the County Council
[33:34] officiated officially initiate
[33:35] the sector plan in SMA. By
[33:37] July 28, 2022, the initial
[33:39] draft was released
[33:41] to the public
[33:42] for reviewing feedback and then
[33:44] Shortly after on October 11,
[33:45] 2022 we held the first joint
[33:46] public hearing. However, on
[33:47] December 15th of that year,
[33:49] the Planning Board remanded the
[33:50] draft and the proposals made
[33:51] back to staff
[33:52] for further revision. And then
[33:53] from January 2023 to May 2024
[33:54] the team worked on revising the
[33:55] second draft based on the
[33:57] feedback received and then
[33:58] October 1, 2024 we have an
[33:59] additional joint public hearing
[34:00] together input
[34:01] on the new draft and then
[34:02] finally on July, January 9,
[34:04] 2025 the Planning Board removed
[34:05] the draft once again for
[34:07] further revisions and then
[34:08] staff more recently requested
[34:10] and got approved the permission
[34:11] to release the third draft
[34:13] which was on April 24, 2025.
[34:16] Next slide please. So this
[34:19] slide just shows the sector
[34:22] plan and the SMA boundary which
[34:25] is primarily located within
[34:26] Planning Area 68. The area is
[34:28] entirely within Council manic
[34:29] District 2 and includes a
[34:30] portion of the City of
[34:32] Hyattsville, the Town of
[34:34] Brentwood and the City of
[34:36] Mount Rainier. The northern
[34:37] boundary
[34:39] of the area is defined by the
[34:40] Prince George's Plaza
[34:42] Regional Transit District and
[34:44] the southern boundary of but
[34:45] Washington. Additionally, the
[34:47] area surrounds the boundary
[34:48] of the 2006 West High School
[34:50] Transit District Development
[34:52] Plan. Next slide please. Based
[34:54] on community input from the
[34:56] last joint public hearing,
[34:58] staff were prompted
[35:00] to re review certain aspects
[35:01] of the plan. This included
[35:03] conducting a comprehensive
[35:04] review of the plan
[35:05] to ensure alignment with the
[35:06] recent legislative changes and
[35:08] evolving community needs.
[35:09] In response to HB 538 which
[35:11] took effect on January 1,
[35:13] 2025, the plan was reviewed and
[35:15] revised to support efforts in
[35:16] addressing affordable housing
[35:18] shortages. Similarly, updates
[35:21] were made
[35:22] to reflect the changes made
[35:23] to the zoning ordinance by
[35:24] Council Bill 1524, which
[35:26] revised sensitive standards
[35:28] across multiple zones.
[35:29] In addition
[35:31] to legislative review, staff
[35:33] assessed the potential loss of
[35:35] existing naturally occurring
[35:36] affordable units and develop
[35:37] strategies aimed at mitigating
[35:39] resident displacement. And then
[35:41] lastly, staff reviewed and
[35:43] revised the zoning for the
[35:45] single family detached
[35:46] residential neighborhoods
[35:47] throughout the entire sector
[35:48] plan area. I'm now going
[35:50] to turn it over to Justin
[35:51] to review the major changes.
[35:52] So next slide and Justin will
[35:54] take it away.
[35:57] >> All right, thank you,
[35:59] Thomas. So sorry. I just got to
[36:00] fix this sharing option really
[36:01] quickly. So I believe. Are you
[36:03] guys seeing my whole screen?
[36:10] >> No, there's nothing. There
[36:15] it is.
[36:20] >> It's nothing because I can't
[36:22] see it.
[36:23] >> We see it.
[36:24] >> I can't see on my end,
[36:27] so I just wanted
[36:28] to be sure.
[36:32] >> We can also see the,
[36:33] like the table of contents
[36:35] on the side.
[36:38] >> Oh, okay. All right. I see
[36:39] what's happening. Okay, how
[36:42] about now? Can you guys see?
[36:44] >> Yes.
[36:46] >> Let me try to. Okay. Is that
[36:49] better?
[36:53] >> Yep.
[36:56] >> Okay. Sorry about that,
[36:59] Thomas. Okay, so this slide
[37:06] outlines the major changes
[37:08] to the West Hyattsville-Queens
[37:10] Chapel Sector Plan.
[37:12] Generally, there were only
[37:14] major changes
[37:16] to the land use and zoning,
[37:18] transportation, housing and
[37:19] neighborhoods, community
[37:21] heritage corporation culture
[37:23] and design and public
[37:24] facilities plan elements.
[37:26] There were no major changes
[37:27] to the plan's vision or
[37:29] to the plan elements
[37:30] for economic prosperity,
[37:32] natural environment and healthy
[37:34] communities. Okay, now we'll
[37:35] take a look at the local
[37:37] transit center boundary. This
[37:39] slide highlights a major change
[37:42] to the language chapter and
[37:44] specifically a change in the
[37:45] West Hyattsville local transit
[37:47] center boundary
[37:50] from the previous draft. The
[37:52] boundary has been updated to
[37:53] reflect the addition and
[37:55] removal of certain right
[37:56] of ways. Additionally, several
[37:58] properties along Chillum Road
[37:59] have been returned
[38:01] to the center boundary,
[38:02] helping
[38:04] to ensure properties closest
[38:05] to the Metro station remain
[38:06] within the center. These
[38:08] changes aim
[38:09] to encourage growth near Metro
[38:10] while mitigating potential
[38:12] environmental impacts. Two new
[38:15] strategies have been added
[38:16] to the land use chapter
[38:17] under LU3 to address
[38:19] environmental risk and fair
[38:20] development. One strategy
[38:22] proposes a comprehensive
[38:23] floodplain study that explores
[38:25] creating a floodplain overlay
[38:26] zone in the zoning ordinance.
[38:27] The second strategy recommends
[38:29] exploring a transfer of right
[38:30] development program as a tool
[38:31] to redirect growth
[38:32] from sensitive areas
[38:34] to more appropriate areas.
[38:35] Okay, so another major change
[38:36] is the future land use map.
[38:38] Notably, all single family
[38:41] neighborhoods have been
[38:45] redesignated
[38:50] from residential medium
[38:55] to medium high,
[38:57] reflecting the push for more
[39:00] missing middle housing
[39:01] throughout the entire sector
[39:03] plan area and leveraging higher
[39:05] densities
[39:07] in an area that lies completely
[39:09] within the 10 minute bike shed
[39:11] to the Metro station.
[39:12] Additionally, the Washington
[39:14] Gas Light company property has
[39:16] been reclassified
[39:17] from institutional land use
[39:19] to mixed use,
[39:20] encouraging a diverse range
[39:22] of uses on the site. These
[39:24] updates are part of the Plan's
[39:26] broader vision to promote
[39:27] higher density development
[39:30] near the station. This slide is
[39:31] just for a reference
[39:35] but shows the existing zoning
[39:37] before we discuss the proposed
[39:39] zoning and to implement the
[39:41] Sector Plan's policies and land
[39:45] use recommendations. As we kind
[39:47] of just went over, the Sector
[39:49] Plan area proposes to
[39:50] reclassify properties
[39:51] throughout the plan boundary
[39:53] to bring zoning
[39:55] into conformance
[39:57] with the sector plan
[39:58] in the plan area. There are 38
[40:01] total proposed zoning changes
[40:03] on this slide we will be
[40:06] focusing
[40:10] on the three major changes
[40:12] for the City of Hyattsville.
[40:14] The zoning for all residential
[40:16] single family 65 or RSF 65
[40:18] areas have been replaced with
[40:19] residential single family
[40:21] attached or RSFA zone and is
[40:22] supported
[40:24] by the future land use map.
[40:25] This rezoning will allow
[40:28] for a more diverse range
[40:30] of housing types and allow
[40:31] for the construction
[40:33] of a house on a single 5,000
[40:34] square foot lot which is the
[40:36] predominant size
[40:38] in the community.
[40:39] Additionally, the Washington
[40:41] Gas Light Company property will
[40:43] be rezoned to Local Transit
[40:44] Oriented EDGE or LTOE
[40:45] to support Transit Oriented
[40:47] Development and transition away
[40:49] from industrial uses. As you
[40:50] will see late
[40:52] in the presentation,
[40:55] the change in Washington Gas
[40:58] Light property prompts a change
[41:00] regarding upgrades
[41:01] to bike pedestrian facilities,
[41:03] recommendations for Chillum
[41:05] Road and some intermediate
[41:07] design guidelines
[41:08] for the industrial uses. These
[41:10] zoning changes are reflected in
[41:12] the sectional map amendment as
[41:14] zoning changes 36, 37 and 38
[41:17] which we have in the table
[41:18] on the slide here. Okay, this
[41:22] slide highlights a major change
[41:25] in the transportation aspect
[41:26] of the West
[41:28] Hyattsville-Queens Chapel
[41:29] Sector Plan. The transportation
[41:31] plan has reconciled
[41:32] with the ongoing GO Prince
[41:33] George's Functional plan which
[41:35] involves updating street
[41:37] classification notations and
[41:39] making minor adjustments
[41:40] to the right of way whips. A
[41:42] key change resulting from the
[41:44] update is is the rezoning
[41:45] of the Washington Gaslight
[41:46] Company property which has led
[41:48] to the upgrade of Chillum Road
[41:50] from a neighborhood connector
[41:52] to a mixed use boulevard. This
[41:53] slide outlines a major change
[41:55] in the bicycle and pedestrian
[41:57] plan. The proposed T208 trail
[41:59] through WMATA's property has
[42:01] been deleted following a
[42:05] request from the Parks
[42:07] Department due to the extreme
[42:09] slopes and other fiscal
[42:11] challenges associated
[42:12] with that route.
[42:14] Additionally, the plan the
[42:16] planned bike lanes BL200 on
[42:18] Jamestown Road has been changed
[42:19] to a shared use path res 233.
[42:20] This adjustment was made to
[42:23] preserve the large mature trees
[42:25] along the road,
[42:26] ensuring they are not affected
[42:28] by any potential right of way
[42:29] widenings that would be needed
[42:31] to install bike lanes. The
[42:33] Housing and Neighborhood
[42:34] section of the Sector plan has
[42:39] been updated
[42:42] to place a stronger emphasis on
[42:43] anti displacement and
[42:45] affordable housing. It has been
[42:46] reorganized and expanded
[42:48] with new strategies, including
[42:49] recommending ongoing
[42:51] collaboration to continue
[42:53] developing anti displacement
[42:56] strategies
[42:57] beyond the plan's adoption,
[42:59] connecting residents at risk
[43:02] of displacement
[43:04] with free legal assistance,
[43:06] supporting local advocacy
[43:09] groups that help renters
[43:12] address rent increases,
[43:14] and encouraging the adoption
[43:16] of right to return policies
[43:18] for residents affected
[43:19] by redevelopment.
[43:21] Additionally, it calls
[43:22] for partnering
[43:23] with a nonprofit organization
[43:25] to establish a community land
[43:26] trust to create and maintain
[43:28] permanent affordable housing
[43:30] through collective ownership.
[43:31] In response to the Maryland
[43:32] Housing Expansion
[43:33] Affordability act, or HB538,
[43:35] the plan includes a new policy,
[43:36] HN4, to support increased
[43:37] housing density
[43:39] around the metro station
[43:40] for qualifying projects.
[43:41] Specifically, it allows a 30%
[43:42] density bonus for developments
[43:43] with at least 15% affordable
[43:44] housing units
[43:46] within three quarters
[43:47] of a mile of the West
[43:48] Highsville Metro station
[43:50] in certain zones. It also
[43:52] supports the development
[43:53] of missing middle housing in
[43:54] single family zones that meet
[43:56] location and affordability
[43:57] criteria. And with that,
[43:59] I will hand it back to Thomas
[44:00] to go over the remaining
[44:02] schedule.
[44:04] >> Thank you, Justin. Now,
[44:07] let's take a look
[44:08] at the schedule. We recently
[44:10] were given permission
[44:11] to print the third draft
[44:12] of the plan on April 24th
[44:14] of this year. Next up will be
[44:16] the joint public hearing,
[44:17] which is scheduled for July 1st
[44:18] of this year. We hope that the
[44:20] planning board work session
[44:22] with adoption and endorsement
[44:24] occurs in September and then
[44:26] followed by the District
[44:27] Council's work session in
[44:29] October
[44:31] with the final approval date
[44:32] in November, just before the
[44:33] December recess. Next slide.
[44:35] And that concludes staff's
[44:37] presentation. Thank you.
[44:50] >> Okay, can you stop sharing
[44:51] your screen, please? Thank you.
[44:54] Colleagues, questions. Mr.
[44:55] Solomon?
[44:58] >> Thank you. The last time
[45:01] that we had a presentation,
[45:03] one of the first. Thank you
[45:04] for the work that you've done
[45:10] on this. I think that you guys
[45:14] have been extremely transparent
[45:18] and forthcoming with us and
[45:20] about the things that you
[45:24] wanted
[45:27] to change and collaborative.
[45:29] Working in a collaborative way
[45:31] with the city of Hyattsville,
[45:33] at least. Although I'm sure you
[45:34] guys heard
[45:36] from the beginning, it sounds
[45:38] like there's some outreach that
[45:41] needs to happen in Avondale.
[45:42] My question is
[45:44] around our conversation
[45:45] around ADUs. Is the word ADU or
[45:46] is the acronym ADU used
[45:47] in this third version?
[45:48] >> Yes, the term ADU is
[45:49] referred to in this version. I
[45:50] believe those were added
[45:51] in the second draft. So the
[45:53] plan does encourage the use
[45:54] of ADUs. However,
[45:55] in the county right now,
[45:56] ADUs are not permitted. So the
[45:57] plan just says if they are
[45:58] permitted in the future,
[45:59] they would be encouraged
[46:00] in this area.
[46:02] >> We were fine with that
[46:03] language when they weren't
[46:05] approved,
[46:06] because they weren't approved.
[46:08] They weren't
[46:09] on the schedule for the county
[46:11] to approve them. But are you
[46:13] guys aware that the state did
[46:15] require all jurisdictions to
[46:16] adopt a policy allowing ADUs
[46:18] this year?
[46:20] >> Yes, Tony felt with Prince
[46:21] George's planning. Yes, we have
[46:23] been monitoring that
[46:24] legislation. And, you know,
[46:26] we do have a schedule
[46:28] to comply with ADUs. The
[46:29] legislature did mandate ADUs
[46:31] to be allowed
[46:32] in all jurisdictions in
[46:34] Maryland. So that is
[46:36] legislation that we're still
[46:37] reviewing,
[46:39] and we'll be working
[46:41] on that sooner or later.
[46:43] But as of right now, Thomas is
[46:45] correct that currently the code
[46:46] in Prince George's county has
[46:48] not been changed
[46:50] to allow allow ADUs,
[46:53] but we have been mandated
[46:55] by the state to allow ADUs
[47:00] within the county based
[47:01] on that legislation. So that's
[47:03] something that we'll be
[47:05] reviewing with the county
[47:06] Council
[47:07] in the coming months.
[47:08] >> Yes, I think that in terms
[47:09] of this sector plan. I'm sorry,
[47:10] was that you, Mayor Croslin?
[47:12] >> Yes, it is. Just one second.
[47:13] I think maybe we need
[47:15] to explain what ADUs are
[47:17] for the community at large and
[47:18] for our new councilmembers.
[47:21] >> Sure.
[47:22] >> Professionals.
[47:24] >> Sure, I can explain that.
[47:25] ADU is an acronym that means
[47:28] accessory dwelling unit. So
[47:29] essentially it is a dwelling
[47:31] unit with a kitchen, bathroom,
[47:33] and a bedroom meets the
[47:35] definition
[47:38] of a dwelling according
[47:41] to the building code. And they
[47:43] are usually smaller,
[47:44] much smaller than the main
[47:48] house, but it is additional
[47:50] separate dwelling unit. They
[47:51] can either be attached or
[47:54] detached, you know, depending
[47:56] on the size of the lot or what
[47:58] the homeowner wants to do. As
[47:59] Thomas mentioned,
[48:01] currently they're not allowed
[48:02] by code in Prince George's
[48:04] county,
[48:05] but they have been mandated
[48:07] by the state to be allowed. So
[48:08] essentially, if you think
[48:09] about. I'll give you an
[48:11] example, kind
[48:12] of a classic example
[48:13] of an adu. If you think
[48:15] about somebody that may have a
[48:17] detached garage outside, you
[48:18] know, a separate building
[48:19] from their house that's
[48:20] detached from their house,
[48:22] that may have a second story
[48:23] with an apartment
[48:24] above the garage,
[48:26] that would be what we're
[48:27] talking about with an ADU or
[48:28] maybe someone has a basement
[48:30] that's fully separated
[48:33] from the rest of their house
[48:35] that they have a living unit
[48:36] in, or, you know, something
[48:38] like a mother in law suite,
[48:40] something like that would be
[48:41] considered an ADU.
[48:42] >> Okay, thank you. I'm sorry,
[48:43] I cut you off, Ms. Sultan. Go
[48:45] ahead.
[48:46] >> No problem. The state law
[48:51] mandates that we have
[48:54] to adopt something by. Or you
[48:58] guys have to adopt something
[49:00] by October of 2026. So you have
[49:02] a little over a year
[49:05] to do so, which would give
[49:07] people, based upon your
[49:10] timeline, roughly a year
[49:15] to start converting things
[49:17] into ADUs
[49:18] without any regulation. So it
[49:20] would be my and given that our
[49:21] residents. I think we made it
[49:23] abundantly clear that the
[49:24] majority of our residents do
[49:26] not want or support ADUs.
[49:27] There are some that do,
[49:28] but given that they. The sum
[49:30] that do will get,
[49:33] that will get them eventually,
[49:34] because the state is requiring
[49:35] getting, you guys will come up
[49:36] with rules and regulations. I
[49:38] think that in this version, we
[49:40] should not be encouraging them.
[49:42] We should just wait until you
[49:45] guys provide additional
[49:48] guidance
[49:50] on what the rules are going
[49:51] to be around ADUs, and then,
[49:53] I don't know,
[49:54] maybe the city will have
[49:55] to come up
[49:56] with its version as well. And
[49:57] then we can talk about. Have a
[49:58] conversation around,
[49:59] a more robust conversation
[50:01] around ADUs, rather than just
[50:02] recommending that they be
[50:03] allowed. Because the heart of
[50:04] the area that will be impacted
[50:06] by this already struggles
[50:07] with parking, with Airbnbs,
[50:08] with, I don't know, a ton
[50:10] of things, a ton of issues that
[50:11] I think allowing ADUs at this
[50:14] point would just not support.
[50:16] So thank you.
[50:19] >> If I could just respond. I
[50:21] just want to say what's in the
[50:23] plan is language that would
[50:25] support ADUs or encourage ADUs
[50:26] once they become allowed. The
[50:28] plan would not allow ADUs,
[50:30] as the does. The current county
[50:32] code does not allow ADUs. They
[50:34] would only be allowed once the
[50:36] county council makes the change
[50:37] to the zoning code. So I just
[50:39] want to make sure that that's
[50:40] clarified.
[50:43] >> Yeah, I guess what I'm
[50:46] trying to say, and I want to
[50:47] make sure I get that what I'm
[50:48] saying is there will be a year
[50:50] between when this. This passes
[50:52] and when the county council has
[50:55] to come up with their update
[50:57] their zoning costs. And I
[51:00] suppose that you guys are
[51:02] gonna. Because there's some
[51:03] technical pieces in there that
[51:04] I think would be outside
[51:05] of zoning that, that the law
[51:08] requires that you guys come up
[51:09] with also,
[51:11] like where they can be, how
[51:13] to count them toward density, a
[51:14] couple other things that are
[51:16] planning specific. And I think
[51:19] that because there are those
[51:21] additional questions that need
[51:23] to be answered,
[51:25] it's not just a recommend that,
[51:27] oh, I think you guys should do,
[51:30] or I think that they should be
[51:31] allowed. There's a lot
[51:33] of heavy lifting
[51:34] around actually allowing them.
[51:36] So I don't understand why we're
[51:38] saying that we recommend that
[51:39] they're going
[51:41] to be allowed when A,
[51:42] they will be allowed and B, we
[51:44] haven't done the heavy lifting
[51:45] which is coming on,
[51:46] on setting them up
[51:47] to be allowed.
[51:49] >> Okay. Mr. Haba? We can't
[51:50] hear you.
[51:54] >> There we go. I thought I had
[51:56] unmuted. Thank you for the
[51:57] presentation. I will start
[51:59] by saying that I do seek
[52:01] in what Council President
[52:03] Solomon was just going
[52:05] over removing that language
[52:07] around ADUs from the SMA as it
[52:09] stand because it's going to be
[52:11] a countywide policy that needs
[52:13] to be implemented. So why put
[52:15] it in this one when we know
[52:16] that there's something coming
[52:18] down the line? So let's just
[52:19] remove it from this. When and
[52:22] if you do come up
[52:23] with that policy,
[52:25] we know that it's going
[52:27] to apply to the county
[52:29] at large. So I wanted
[52:32] to second that suggestion.
[52:35] Also I know I saw on the map
[52:37] that there is no longer going
[52:44] to be dedicated,
[52:46] I think bike lane on
[52:47] Jamestown. We had some concern
[52:49] about that Jamestown and
[52:50] Nicholson, but I didn't see
[52:52] for the Nicholson part. Is that
[52:53] also the same. The same changes
[52:55] applying to Nicholson or
[52:56] Nicholson is saying the same as
[52:58] previously. So Jamestown was a
[53:00] shared.
[53:05] >> Yeah. Let me just check the
[53:13] map real quick.
[53:17] >> I'm sorry Councilmember,
[53:19] your question was about
[53:21] Jamestown?
[53:22] >> Specifically Jamestown,
[53:24] Nicholson. Previously it was a
[53:25] dedicated bike lanes that which
[53:27] was taking kind of like away
[53:31] from parking. But on the new
[53:32] presentation I saw that
[53:35] Jamestown is not shared
[53:37] for bike lanes.
[53:38] >> Yeah. It looks like
[53:39] Nicholson is designated as a
[53:40] shared lane. Is that right?
[53:41] Thomas Nicholson, you are 243
[53:43] on it.
[53:46] >> Depends on what portion of
[53:49] Nicholson you're referring to.
[53:52] There's I guess east of Ager
[53:54] Road it's bike lane. West of
[53:56] Edgar Road it's shared lane.
[53:58] >> Can you show the map?
[54:02] >> We're talking East. So the
[54:07] entire length of Nicholson if
[54:09] it can be shared because there
[54:11] was a fear for 3 canopy. The
[54:12] loss of 3 canopy on Nicholson
[54:14] as well Nicholson and
[54:18] Jamestown on both streets.
[54:22] Previously the plan that was
[54:24] presented would have meant that
[54:26] we'll lose some three canopy.
[54:29] >> So just so we're clear,
[54:31] councilmember,
[54:36] you were suggesting on
[54:38] Nicholson east of Agar Road
[54:39] instead of a bicycle lane,
[54:40] you would prefer
[54:42] to see a shared lane there,
[54:45] dealership lane, because there
[54:47] is a parking constraint
[54:50] in the area. And then we have
[54:52] the three canopy
[54:55] to preserve.
[54:58] >> Okay.
[54:59] >> If we have dedicated lane on
[55:01] those two street which it will
[55:02] mean that we're going
[55:03] to lose parking space. Unless
[55:05] you are able to do it
[55:08] without losing parking space,
[55:10] then we good. We shout out.
[55:12] >> Yeah. So I was just going
[55:13] to confirm that James Conrad
[55:17] was also bicycle.
[55:18] >> I apologize for all the
[55:21] clarifying questions. I'm
[55:27] taking notes. I just want to
[55:28] make sure that I get your
[55:29] comments exactly right,
[55:31] councilmember.
[55:34] >> The other thing I was
[55:38] interested in is the
[55:39] Washington Gas facility. Can
[55:41] you elaborate a little bit more
[55:42] on that? Because that has been.
[55:49] I think our friends from
[55:51] Avondale and Avonreach will be
[55:52] happy to also learn more
[55:54] on that one. What exactly the
[55:55] vision are we foreseeing
[55:59] Washington Gas eventually
[56:00] converting?
[56:06] >> So, Councilmember, we had a
[56:07] request from Washington.
[56:09] Well, first let me start off.
[56:10] Currently the property, the
[56:11] Washington Gas property is
[56:13] zoned agricultural. It is a
[56:14] privately owned public utility.
[56:18] Therefore it's subject to
[56:21] what's called the mandatory
[56:22] referral process,
[56:24] meaning that regardless
[56:25] of the zoning, the Wash Gas
[56:26] facility as a privately owned
[56:29] public utility can continue its
[56:33] operations and they only go
[56:35] through a separate process kind
[56:36] of outside of zoning. We had a
[56:37] request from Washington Gas
[56:39] to rezone the property from ag
[56:40] to an industrial zone. We felt
[56:43] like that was not appropriate
[56:48] one, because if Washington Gas
[56:50] were to divest the property,
[56:52] any type of industrial
[56:53] industrial use could be placed
[56:56] on that property. We know from
[56:58] our outreach that we had heard
[56:59] from residents in Avondale and
[57:02] there in Hyattsville as well
[57:04] that they did not want to see
[57:05] further industrial development
[57:08] of that property. So again,
[57:10] we did not feel
[57:12] like that was appropriate.
[57:21] However, in kind of looking
[57:22] at the future, you know, we
[57:24] recommend, because
[57:25] of its proximity to the West
[57:26] Hyattsville Metro station,
[57:27] we recommended kind
[57:29] of rezoning it to allow transit
[57:30] oriented development similar
[57:32] to what you see
[57:33] on the other side
[57:35] of the river. Now I'll go ahead
[57:37] and tell you that's kind
[57:39] of a visionary type thing that
[57:40] may not happen for a very,
[57:42] very long time. And part
[57:43] of the problem is, you know, we
[57:44] understand there's some
[57:45] environmental concerns and
[57:46] some, you know, a lot of soil
[57:48] remediation and environmental
[57:49] remediation that would have
[57:51] to happen on that property due
[57:52] to its industrial use. So you
[57:54] know, but maybe sometime
[57:56] in the future, you know,
[57:58] these are 5, 10 and 25 year
[57:59] horizon plans. So maybe
[58:01] sometime
[58:03] in the future someone will want
[58:04] to come in and if Washington
[58:06] Gas divests of that property
[58:08] and put some money into it and
[58:09] do the remediation and put a
[58:11] nice development there. And so
[58:13] that's what we're looking for
[58:14] with this plan. But again,
[58:16] the request that we had from
[58:17] the property owners was an
[58:18] industrial zoning district and
[58:19] we just didn't feel like that
[58:21] was appropriate given it its
[58:23] proximity to single family
[58:24] residential.
[58:27] >> Thank you for that
[58:30] clarification. So basically we
[58:32] classifying it as mixed use,
[58:34] but the current use would be
[58:36] grandfather as long as they're
[58:37] there.
[58:40] >> That's correct. As long as
[58:41] Washington Gas is there and
[58:42] they're privately owned public
[58:44] utility, they can continue
[58:45] to operate under the mandatory
[58:46] referral process.
[58:48] >> Thank you. Those are my
[58:51] questions.
[58:53] >> Thank you. Mr. Schaible?
[58:55] >> Thank you. This question
[58:57] came to me
[58:58] from a constituent,
[59:00] but I also am curious to learn
[59:03] the answer. I know there's
[59:06] county legislation that passed
[59:10] within the last one
[59:11] to two years that talked
[59:13] about hurrying up the timeline
[59:18] to convert arterial roads that
[59:21] are adjacent to transit hubs to
[59:23] the new urban street design
[59:26] standard, which is more
[59:30] multimodal and pedestrian
[59:33] friendly. We know that Ager had
[59:36] kind of a complete street
[59:37] revision maybe five years ago.
[59:39] However, we've done a fair
[59:41] amount of analysis on that road
[59:43] that shows that it's still got
[59:45] pretty high speeds
[59:46] of traffic. And just wanted
[59:49] to ask,
[59:52] are there any provisions
[59:54] in this, looking
[59:57] at this anchor, which is
[59:58] Ager, which is the hub that the
[1:00:00] Metro station is right
[1:00:03] off of. Any thoughts to further
[1:00:04] expand walkability and
[1:00:07] multimodal transit options
[1:00:08] adjacent to the Metro station?
[1:00:16] >> Yes, thank you
[1:00:17] for that question.
[1:00:18] Absolutely. Justin, if you
[1:00:20] could go to slide 12, please.
[1:00:22] Ager Road and as well as
[1:00:24] Queens Chapel Road
[1:00:26] in that area are proposed
[1:00:27] to be mixed use boulevards,
[1:00:29] which are part of those new
[1:00:31] street detail standards that we
[1:00:32] have in combination
[1:00:34] with DPW and T. A mixed use
[1:00:38] boulevard incorporates things
[1:00:40] like parking next to it,
[1:00:41] medians, bike lanes,
[1:00:43] integrated bike lanes. So those
[1:00:45] tend to reduce the amount of
[1:00:48] traffic lanes while also
[1:00:49] allowing multimodal and slowing
[1:00:52] down traffic. So that's
[1:00:55] proposed both for Acre Road as
[1:00:56] well as Queens Chapel Road.
[1:00:58] And particularly your question,
[1:00:59] Agar Road there at West
[1:01:01] Hyattsville. And so you'll see
[1:01:02] that right there. Where you see
[1:01:05] that 217 on the map,
[1:01:07] that's Edgar Road right there.
[1:01:09] >> Okay, that sounds good. I
[1:01:11] don't have them handy,
[1:01:13] but I would like
[1:01:15] to forward someone
[1:01:16] from your team. We did a
[1:01:18] traffic audit of. There was an
[1:01:19] intersection along Ager where a
[1:01:20] pedestrian was fatally struck
[1:01:22] by a vehicle about three,
[1:01:23] three years ago. And we did a
[1:01:25] bunch of research there. We had
[1:01:26] some leading people
[1:01:28] in the space of, you know, road
[1:01:30] safety come and provide
[1:01:31] comment. Actually, Juanika
[1:01:34] Fisher was a panelist
[1:01:36] on this,
[1:01:40] on this presentation. It was
[1:01:44] led by an organization called
[1:01:45] Strong Towns. They gave a
[1:01:46] series
[1:01:48] of recommendations. I want to
[1:01:50] make sure you have those and
[1:01:51] can consider those
[1:01:52] in your revisions to the road.
[1:01:53] >> Councilmember,
[1:02:01] I'm fairly certain we have a
[1:02:03] copy of that study. Thomas, do
[1:02:05] we have that and have
[1:02:06] incorporated that
[1:02:07] into the plan, right?
[1:02:11] >> Yeah, I believe so.
[1:02:12] >> Yes.
[1:02:13] But Councilmember, just to
[1:02:14] make sure I believe we have it
[1:02:16] and we've incorporated it
[1:02:20] in the plan. But just
[1:02:21] in case, if you want
[1:02:22] to send it to us. I don't know
[1:02:23] if you have our presentation
[1:02:24] in your packet, but all the
[1:02:26] team members contact
[1:02:27] information with their emails
[1:02:28] are there and so just shoot it
[1:02:30] over to us and we'll
[1:02:32] verify that we have it
[1:02:33] but I'm 99.9% certain that
[1:02:35] we've got it.
[1:02:36] >> Okay, we'll do. Thank you.
[1:02:39] >> Ms. Lee.
[1:02:45] >> Well, hello. Good evening.
[1:02:47] Thank you. Can you guys hear
[1:02:48] me?
[1:02:54] Thank you for your
[1:02:56] presentation. I do have a
[1:02:57] question. Slide 14, where major
[1:02:59] changes housing and
[1:03:00] neighborhoods, where it said
[1:03:02] that new strategies were added
[1:03:04] to the policy HN2 to develop
[1:03:05] long term anti deplacement
[1:03:06] measures. Can you speak on any
[1:03:08] initiatives or what initiatives
[1:03:09] does the planning board have
[1:03:12] in mind for this?
[1:03:16] >> The purpose
[1:03:17] of that strategy is just to
[1:03:18] emphasize that displacement
[1:03:20] doesn't end with displacement
[1:03:22] plan or displacement strategy
[1:03:24] shouldn't end with this plan.
[1:03:27] This plan is just the starting
[1:03:29] point for anti displacement and
[1:03:33] that work on that kind
[1:03:34] of effort should continue
[1:03:37] into the future. So there's
[1:03:38] nothing specific right now.
[1:03:40] It's just emphasizing that
[1:03:41] things should happen,
[1:03:42] should continue to develop as
[1:03:44] the area changes.
[1:03:47] >> Okay. And any other,
[1:03:48] do you have any other
[1:03:50] sector plans that have gone
[1:03:52] through that with any anti
[1:03:53] deplacement programs that you
[1:03:54] could speak on just to kind of
[1:03:56] get a better understanding.
[1:04:04] >> The anti displacement
[1:04:06] policy, it's one of those that
[1:04:08] we think should happen. We
[1:04:10] would have to work of course
[1:04:11] with the county council and
[1:04:13] county executive departments
[1:04:14] in Prince George's county
[1:04:16] for that to be put in place.
[1:04:18] What we're saying here is that
[1:04:21] we want to make sure that as
[1:04:23] new development comes in that
[1:04:24] we don't see existing
[1:04:26] communities displaced or
[1:04:28] existing communities disbanded
[1:04:29] because of new development.
[1:04:31] And so the goal is
[1:04:32] in putting this policy
[1:04:34] into the plan is
[1:04:35] to draw attention
[1:04:37] to the matter and kind
[1:04:38] of bring it up to a level
[1:04:40] for the county council
[1:04:42] to consider. And you know,
[1:04:45] if the county council is
[1:04:48] willing to look at that the
[1:04:49] planning department would stand
[1:04:51] ready to work for, to develop
[1:04:54] any anti displacement measures
[1:04:55] that they see fit. But right
[1:04:58] now there's no requirements
[1:04:59] in the county code. But that's
[1:05:01] something that we think should
[1:05:03] happen.
[1:05:04] >> So this is something that we
[1:05:06] need as a city have to take up
[1:05:07] with our county council members
[1:05:09] to make sure that it is enacted
[1:05:10] into the right.
[1:05:14] >> That's what we would like
[1:05:15] to see. This is one
[1:05:17] of those aspirational policies.
[1:05:18] But, you know,
[1:05:19] and we would love to work
[1:05:20] with the city of Hyattsville
[1:05:21] to bring that
[1:05:23] to the forefront.
[1:05:26] >> Thank you.
[1:05:34] >> Okay, Ms. Waszczak.
[1:05:38] >> Sorry, the mute button did
[1:05:39] not want to unmute itself.
[1:05:41] Okay, so I have three
[1:05:43] questions. First, I wondered
[1:05:44] how this plan has been updated,
[1:05:47] if at all,
[1:05:48] with the advent of. And really
[1:05:52] the explosion
[1:05:54] of motorized scooters,
[1:05:56] especially for food delivery.
[1:05:57] Because I know that there's a
[1:05:58] lot of attention to transit
[1:06:00] oriented development and
[1:06:01] bicycle and pedestrian. So just
[1:06:03] trying to figure out if there
[1:06:05] have been any changes
[1:06:06] to what you're planning based
[1:06:08] on the fact that there are
[1:06:10] scooters zipping everywhere and
[1:06:11] not paying attention
[1:06:15] to traffic laws. Is there any
[1:06:17] way to kind
[1:06:19] of use this planning document
[1:06:23] to help control that?
[1:06:26] >> I would say. Sorry, Tony,
[1:06:29] did you want to go?
[1:06:30] >> So go ahead, Thomas.
[1:06:32] >> Yeah, I was going to say,
[1:06:34] generally the plan does account
[1:06:36] for motorized vehicles
[1:06:37] with bicycle lanes. So if you
[1:06:39] look at the map,
[1:06:40] the transportation map, most
[1:06:41] of the new streets are, you
[1:06:43] know, the urban design streets
[1:06:44] that include some sort of
[1:06:46] shared use path or other path
[1:06:47] that would accommodate scooters
[1:06:48] as well, or bike lanes.
[1:06:53] >> I guess I'm concerned about
[1:06:54] that because these motorized
[1:06:56] scooters, or I don't know what
[1:06:57] you guys call them, like the.
[1:06:59] Going
[1:07:01] to show my age right now,
[1:07:02] like the Vespa type of scooter
[1:07:04] is what I'm talking about. I'm
[1:07:05] talking
[1:07:07] about the ones that are
[1:07:09] like basically a vehicle. They
[1:07:10] are riding in bike lanes,
[1:07:12] they are riding on sidewalks,
[1:07:13] they are riding
[1:07:15] in bike paths. And I think I'm
[1:07:18] just wondering if there is any
[1:07:19] way for us
[1:07:20] to use this sector plan
[1:07:22] to kind of create a vision
[1:07:24] for a safer way
[1:07:25] for these motorized vehicles
[1:07:27] to operate. Because it's
[1:07:29] like the wild west
[1:07:31] out there right now.
[1:07:32] >> Yeah. So usually I think
[1:07:33] what you're kind of talking
[1:07:35] about is something not quite a
[1:07:37] motorcycle, but not quite a
[1:07:39] scooter. I know exactly what
[1:07:40] you're talking about. Usually
[1:07:42] those are considered a motor
[1:07:43] vehicle in the same vein as a
[1:07:45] motorcycle. And the plans
[1:07:46] really typically focus on
[1:07:47] street design and land use. I
[1:07:49] think what you're. It sounds
[1:07:53] like, not the put words
[1:07:55] in your mouth, Councilmember,
[1:07:57] but it sounds
[1:07:59] like you're concerned
[1:08:01] about traffic laws and the
[1:08:02] fact that they're not following
[1:08:04] traffic laws. That's not
[1:08:05] something that we generally get
[1:08:07] into in a sector plan.
[1:08:08] However, you know,
[1:08:10] if your comments back to
[1:08:12] us was that that was something
[1:08:14] that you would like
[1:08:16] to see perhaps as a strategy,
[1:08:17] you know, we could look
[1:08:18] at incorporating some
[1:08:20] of that language.
[1:08:22] But usually that's, you know,
[1:08:24] rest
[1:08:26] with the police department
[1:08:27] to enforce those types
[1:08:28] of traffic laws. But I
[1:08:30] definitely understand where
[1:08:38] you're coming from because I'm
[1:08:40] just gonna. I feel your pain
[1:08:42] on that.
[1:08:44] >> If I can chime
[1:08:46] in here for a moment. Good
[1:08:47] evening, everyone. So I can
[1:08:49] just provide a little bit more
[1:08:50] clarification. We do have a
[1:08:51] comparable document that we are
[1:08:53] doing, Master Plan of
[1:08:54] Transportation update. And so
[1:08:55] to your point, Councilwoman, if
[1:08:57] we're not able
[1:08:58] to capture it as part
[1:08:59] of this master plan, we do have
[1:09:00] a separate document where we're
[1:09:01] updating with multiple
[1:09:02] transportation agencies. So
[1:09:04] Deputy Director felt we could
[1:09:05] probably line this up
[1:09:06] with the GOPrince George's
[1:09:07] process as needed. So that's
[1:09:08] going to come before the
[1:09:09] council next year.
[1:09:11] >> Okay, great, thanks. These
[1:09:12] other two might also be related
[1:09:14] to the PG process. So just
[1:09:16] bear with me. So I wondered if
[1:09:18] you could talk about how the
[1:09:20] transportation map that we saw,
[1:09:21] the one with all the, like,
[1:09:23] dotted lines
[1:09:24] on it that were colored,
[1:09:26] how has that been aligned
[1:09:28] with Metro's new Better Bus
[1:09:29] network map? And are we making
[1:09:31] sure that we kind
[1:09:33] of have aligned those two? As
[1:09:36] you update the sector plan,
[1:09:39] are you also working
[1:09:41] with WMATA on trying to figure
[1:09:43] out how their new bus routes
[1:09:46] are going
[1:09:47] to impact your plan?
[1:09:50] >> Yes. The short answer to
[1:09:51] your question is we have worked
[1:09:52] with WMATA very closely
[1:09:53] to put this plan together.
[1:09:56] Also have worked
[1:09:57] with WMATA as an agency
[1:09:58] with GOPrince George's. So we
[1:10:00] have taken that
[1:10:03] into account as we've looked
[1:10:05] at some of these street
[1:10:08] classification changes.
[1:10:09] >> Okay, great. And then my
[1:10:11] last question was,
[1:10:13] does the plan provide for
[1:10:14] bicycle oriented development
[1:10:15] and not just transit oriented
[1:10:17] development? And the reason I
[1:10:19] ask that is because we're
[1:10:20] obviously on one of the premier
[1:10:22] bike trail systems
[1:10:23] in the country. I mean, I feel
[1:10:26] like we are. And so I want to
[1:10:29] make sure that we are thinking
[1:10:30] not just about cars and about
[1:10:32] transit oriented development,
[1:10:36] but also about bike oriented
[1:10:38] development. As I understand
[1:10:40] there was a development
[1:10:41] possibly coming in right next
[1:10:43] to West Hyattville Station that
[1:10:45] envisioned itself
[1:10:47] to be bike oriented and not to
[1:10:50] really have parking spaces. I
[1:10:52] think that's kind
[1:10:54] of the future. And if we're
[1:10:55] looking
[1:10:57] at a visionary plan here,
[1:10:59] I just want to make sure that
[1:11:00] we have that vision
[1:11:02] in mind as well.
[1:11:03] >> Yes, absolutely. And you
[1:11:05] know, the nice thing about
[1:11:06] transit oriented development,
[1:11:07] it is also bike oriented
[1:11:08] development because we're
[1:11:09] looking
[1:11:10] at those multimodal forms
[1:11:12] of transportation not just
[1:11:13] in this plan, but also in
[1:11:14] GoPrince Georgia's,
[1:11:15] but if you take a look
[1:11:16] at slide 13, we've envisioned a
[1:11:17] wide array of bicycle lanes,
[1:11:18] both shared and dedicated
[1:11:19] throughout the plan. Not only
[1:11:20] that,
[1:11:22] in our trail networks
[1:11:23] associated with the plan, we've
[1:11:24] envisioned multi use paths that
[1:11:25] incorporate bikes. So we're
[1:11:26] definitely taking a vision of
[1:11:28] much more multimodal transit,
[1:11:30] including bicycles
[1:11:32] in the plan area.
[1:11:36] >> Great. Thank you very much.
[1:11:37] >> Okay. Mr. Solomon, did you
[1:11:41] have another question you want
[1:11:42] to ask?
[1:11:44] >> Yes, just two more things
[1:11:46] that I want to raise. The first
[1:11:48] was just revisiting the
[1:11:49] conversation around ADUs,
[1:11:51] but I wanted to mix it with the
[1:11:54] density changes that were the
[1:11:55] zoning change that's also
[1:11:57] included here.
[1:12:00] The zoning change came
[1:12:03] about because when we,
[1:12:04] when we came up
[1:12:06] with draft one, there was no
[1:12:08] zoning change initially
[1:12:09] indicated,
[1:12:13] but there was a conversation
[1:12:16] around ADUs. I think that
[1:12:19] in general,
[1:12:22] planning board plus the
[1:12:24] majority of residents agrees
[1:12:26] that ADUs were not the way
[1:12:28] to go. So we came up with the
[1:12:29] zoning change that would
[1:12:31] achieve the same objectives
[1:12:32] around allowing additional
[1:12:35] housing should people choose to
[1:12:37] convert their homes or lots or
[1:12:39] you know,
[1:12:40] build additional units.
[1:12:44] But it wouldn't come with
[1:12:46] some of the negatives
[1:12:48] that we associated with ADUs.
[1:12:50] But now, since we're going
[1:12:52] to get ADUs anyway, I'm
[1:12:54] wondering, have we seen a place
[1:12:56] where you do the zoning change
[1:12:57] and you allow ADUs
[1:12:59] at the same time? Are
[1:13:01] there examples that you guys
[1:13:03] can pull from around what that
[1:13:04] looks like?
[1:13:06] >> Sure. So ADUs are allowed
[1:13:08] in multiple jurisdictions
[1:13:09] across the country. And I can
[1:13:10] kind of pull on my experience
[1:13:12] at my previous life in San
[1:13:14] Antonio, Texas, where,
[1:13:15] and I'm sure Director Hall can
[1:13:19] pull
[1:13:20] from her previous experiences
[1:13:22] in Miami and Charlotte and
[1:13:23] Los Angeles. But you know,
[1:13:25] what we've been able to see is
[1:13:26] that ADUs can provide
[1:13:28] additional housing options and
[1:13:29] allow people both to age
[1:13:31] in place,
[1:13:33] can allow some independence
[1:13:35] for students that may be aging
[1:13:36] out of their parents home
[1:13:38] but still want to stay close
[1:13:42] to the nest, or may allow
[1:13:44] homeowners
[1:13:46] to supplement their income
[1:13:49] by renting out a unit.
[1:13:52] And that unit can provide some
[1:13:54] affordable housing
[1:13:56] for someone who is trying
[1:13:58] to get on their feet. You know,
[1:13:59] around the country,
[1:14:00] ADUs have been really
[1:14:02] successful in allowing these
[1:14:03] additional housing options
[1:14:05] to occur. And you don't really
[1:14:08] see those types
[1:14:09] of negative effects. Usually
[1:14:10] ADUs work best where you have a
[1:14:12] really robust infrastructure,
[1:14:14] multimodal and transit
[1:14:16] oriented, and you have good
[1:14:17] transit,
[1:14:19] which is what you're seeing
[1:14:20] in these neighborhoods. So, you
[1:14:21] know,
[1:14:22] it's been our experience that
[1:14:24] around the country that these,
[1:14:27] the ADUs have worked along
[1:14:29] with additional densities.
[1:14:30] Director Hall, I didn't know if
[1:14:31] you had anything that you
[1:14:32] wanted to add.
[1:14:35] >> Yes, just really quickly.
[1:14:36] So in addition to go Prince
[1:14:37] George's, we're going to start
[1:14:38] a missing middle housing study.
[1:14:39] And so as part
[1:14:41] of that effort, we're going
[1:14:42] to include the City of
[1:14:43] Hyattsville. And we're hoping
[1:14:45] that
[1:14:46] before that effective date
[1:14:47] of the state requirements
[1:14:49] on ADUs,
[1:14:50] we can have some engagement
[1:14:51] of what that looks like. So
[1:14:53] keep in mind the master and
[1:14:54] sector plan will be adopted
[1:14:56] for the city. However, there
[1:14:57] are still code regulations that
[1:14:59] can be adopted that may also
[1:15:00] overlap the master and sector
[1:15:01] plan process. So we want to
[1:15:02] make sure that the council is
[1:15:03] aware that with this master and
[1:15:05] sector plan, there might be
[1:15:06] additional amendments made
[1:15:07] through the regulation process.
[1:15:09] But we are definitely going to
[1:15:10] be transparent and come back as
[1:15:13] part of the missing middle
[1:15:15] housing study to talk
[1:15:17] about this further.
[1:15:19] >> Okay. For me, I think that I
[1:15:20] appreciate hearing that. I
[1:15:22] don't know if you were
[1:15:24] on earlier to hear my comment
[1:15:26] that I don't think that we
[1:15:27] should include ADUs, but this
[1:15:29] reinforces my comment that I
[1:15:30] think we should keep ADUs out
[1:15:31] of this and just leave it
[1:15:33] in that additional piece
[1:15:37] that you're talking
[1:15:38] about when we get
[1:15:40] to that point, because, you
[1:15:43] know, ADUs aren't going
[1:15:44] to account toward density,
[1:15:46] but we're going
[1:15:48] to grow density, but
[1:15:49] with the zoning change. And I'm
[1:15:51] wondering in our
[1:15:54] goodwill to try and
[1:15:56] create additional affordable
[1:15:57] options if we're also going
[1:15:59] to create a greater burden
[1:16:00] on the resources of the city
[1:16:01] by rushing toward that goal
[1:16:04] rather than slowly getting
[1:16:05] there
[1:16:07] through a planned process,
[1:16:11] which you guys are,
[1:16:12] which is the whole focus
[1:16:14] of this exercise,
[1:16:15] by doing both
[1:16:16] at the same time quickly. So
[1:16:17] that's my thoughts there. The
[1:16:19] only other thing I was going
[1:16:20] to say about transportation,
[1:16:21] I don't know if we included it,
[1:16:23] but I know one
[1:16:25] of my concerns, I live
[1:16:26] near the Metro station where we
[1:16:29] do have the,
[1:16:31] the scooters and the E-bikes
[1:16:32] and every other
[1:16:34] thing that you can think
[1:16:36] of that you will want people
[1:16:38] to just get on when they get
[1:16:39] off a Metro and not get
[1:16:43] in the car. But in every other
[1:16:45] place that I've visited, there
[1:16:50] are speed regulations that
[1:16:51] those things have to follow and
[1:16:53] also locations where they can
[1:16:54] and can't be used. But it, I
[1:16:56] don't, it doesn't seem
[1:16:58] like those exist in Prince
[1:16:59] George's County. And I think
[1:17:00] one of the recommendations that
[1:17:02] we should make to the
[1:17:05] District Council is that they
[1:17:07] should put those things in
[1:17:09] place because otherwise they're
[1:17:10] ending up in
[1:17:11] neighborhoods. They're
[1:17:12] ending up
[1:17:14] in this pond that we've created
[1:17:16] over here. They're ending up
[1:17:17] in all types of places that
[1:17:19] they shouldn't be because we
[1:17:20] allow people to bring them
[1:17:22] there and just throw them
[1:17:23] anywhere. So I think if we
[1:17:24] could make one
[1:17:26] of the recommendations back to
[1:17:27] the district council could be
[1:17:28] working
[1:17:30] with whoever their partners are
[1:17:31] in establishing these
[1:17:32] multimodal transportation
[1:17:33] system
[1:17:34] around both metro stations,
[1:17:35] both West High School,
[1:17:36] but also there needs to be. I
[1:17:38] would assume that they're
[1:17:40] having the same problem
[1:17:42] around French George's Plaza
[1:17:44] Metro station, is that some
[1:17:45] of them aren't making it back
[1:17:46] to where they came from. Thank
[1:17:47] you.
[1:17:51] >> Okay, thank you. We have
[1:17:52] another presentation coming up.
[1:17:53] So, colleagues, is that all the
[1:17:54] comments or questions that we
[1:17:55] have? Okay, thank you. Thank
[1:17:56] you, folks for coming and
[1:17:57] making this presentation
[1:17:58] to us.
[1:17:59] >> Thank you for having us.
[1:18:01] >> Okay, so we're going to go
[1:18:02] on to the next presentation,
[1:18:04] Ms. Riddle.
[1:18:06] >> Thank you, Mayor Croslin.
[1:18:08] >> Hal Metzler is also
[1:18:11] with me this evening.
[1:18:15] Deputy Director Metzler. We
[1:18:17] are here with representatives
[1:18:19] from Tanko. Council approved us
[1:18:20] moving forward with a contract
[1:18:22] with Tanko to maneuver us
[1:18:26] through the changes with PEPCO
[1:18:31] and our lighting system. I'm
[1:18:33] going to turn it over to Tanko
[1:18:36] and to Hal. And we are
[1:18:38] after the presentation here
[1:18:40] to answer your questions.
[1:18:48] >> Good evening, Mayor,
[1:18:49] Council. Just to add on
[1:18:51] to what Leslie said,
[1:18:52] the city is responding to the
[1:18:53] Maryland General assembly
[1:18:56] passing a. Excuse me. The
[1:18:59] Municipal Streetlight
[1:19:01] Investment act in fiscal year
[1:19:05] 23 that allows local
[1:19:06] governments
[1:19:08] to acquire streetlights from
[1:19:10] their local utility. PEPCO had
[1:19:11] a number of meetings
[1:19:13] with all the municipalities
[1:19:14] in Prince George's County. The
[1:19:16] city, after attending a few
[1:19:21] of those, brought Tanko
[1:19:22] on board to kind
[1:19:23] of review this and advise us.
[1:19:25] They gave a presentation to
[1:19:26] council last year where they
[1:19:27] had one recommendation.
[1:19:29] Since then, PEPCO has changed
[1:19:31] their proposed rates and that
[1:19:34] has caused us to have Tanko
[1:19:36] kind of re. Evaluate the
[1:19:38] options for the city. Jason
[1:19:40] Tanko is here
[1:19:41] to present those options
[1:19:44] to you all. Thank you, Jason.
[1:19:47] >> I'm
[1:19:53] loading up the presentation. I
[1:19:55] just want to confirm. Can
[1:19:57] everyone see this?
[1:19:58] >> Yes.
[1:20:00] >> We're here to talk
[1:20:03] about streetlights. My name is
[1:20:04] Jason Tanko. I'm an absolute
[1:20:06] advocate and lover
[1:20:07] of streetlights. Definitely a
[1:20:10] unique person
[1:20:11] from this standpoint. I get
[1:20:13] to work and play
[1:20:14] with something I care
[1:20:15] about very deeply. So we're
[1:20:17] talking
[1:20:18] about the lights right here.
[1:20:19] This is actually a shot of
[1:20:20] Hyattsville. I think you can
[1:20:22] all see my cursor. Is that
[1:20:24] right?
[1:20:25] >> Yes.
[1:20:26] >> Okay, so just a little bit
[1:20:27] about us because the remaining
[1:20:28] slides really focus
[1:20:29] on the city. So our company,
[1:20:30] we've helped 130 cities and
[1:20:32] towns around the country
[1:20:35] acquire their street Lights.
[1:20:37] In some cases, we've
[1:20:40] recommended that they not
[1:20:42] acquire the lights. So we're
[1:20:43] not coming in,
[1:20:44] just beating a single drum.
[1:20:46] Some points
[1:20:47] around why you would want
[1:20:49] to own number one. Street
[1:20:51] lights are here
[1:20:52] for public safety. They prevent
[1:20:54] accidents. They allow slip and
[1:20:55] fall hazards to be mitigated.
[1:20:56] They really reduce crime.
[1:20:57] There's a lot of social
[1:20:59] benefits that streetlights
[1:21:00] have, so owning the street
[1:21:01] lights, there's a lot
[1:21:02] of benefits to that in terms of
[1:21:03] the city's public safety goals.
[1:21:05] Another benefit that we'll get
[1:21:06] into here is cost savings.
[1:21:08] There is going to be faster
[1:21:09] response times because the city
[1:21:11] will now be more directly
[1:21:12] responsible
[1:21:13] for the maintenance, better
[1:21:15] maintenance,
[1:21:16] control and design
[1:21:17] of the lighting. And in this,
[1:21:18] right away, here, this picture,
[1:21:19] the city already takes care
[1:21:20] of everything else. The street,
[1:21:22] the stormwater. You clean it,
[1:21:23] you plow it. Everything else in
[1:21:24] this street is already
[1:21:26] currently done by the city,
[1:21:27] just lighting it. Currently
[1:21:28] still covered under PEPCO.
[1:21:30] But again, we're recommending
[1:21:32] that be potentially changed.
[1:21:34] The last point I'll leave you
[1:21:35] with is people already think
[1:21:37] you own the street lights.
[1:21:38] People are calling the city
[1:21:40] today with lights that are
[1:21:42] out issues. And the problem is
[1:21:44] you have to go to PEPCO, where
[1:21:46] there's just no accountability
[1:21:48] to make sure that they get
[1:21:49] repaired on time. All right,
[1:21:50] can everyone see the next
[1:21:51] slide?
[1:21:52] >> Yes, we can.
[1:21:53] >> Okay, great. So this kind
[1:21:54] of catches us up. We did a
[1:21:55] streetlight feasibility study
[1:21:56] that was completed on October
[1:21:58] 2023. We reported
[1:21:59] to council and to staff on
[1:22:00] February 2024. The results
[1:22:02] of those. We essentially looked
[1:22:04] at four options,
[1:22:05] and basically it was either
[1:22:06] stay with PEPCO or go out
[1:22:08] on your own. And those were put
[1:22:11] against basically just status
[1:22:17] quo. We had to have some sort
[1:22:18] of baseline. So since then,
[1:22:20] we've also now completed the
[1:22:21] lighting audit and the GIS
[1:22:24] overlay. So we had staff from
[1:22:27] Tanko going pole
[1:22:31] by pole throughout the city,
[1:22:35] counting all
[1:22:37] of the street lights,
[1:22:38] getting critical data about,
[1:22:40] you know, what the street
[1:22:42] light, where it was located,
[1:22:45] any, any information
[1:22:47] off the pole, things
[1:22:48] like that. We reconcile that
[1:22:49] against the bills that
[1:22:51] currently came in from PEPCO.
[1:22:52] We believe that there's a
[1:22:54] potential credit in
[1:22:56] overbuilding because basically
[1:22:57] the records were just not
[1:22:58] matching what we found
[1:23:00] in the field. Another note is
[1:23:02] that since April 1st
[1:23:03] of this year,
[1:23:05] the bill has actually increased
[1:23:06] by another 10%. And it's our
[1:23:07] position
[1:23:08] with the city staff as well,
[1:23:10] that pepco's rates are really
[1:23:11] reflective of a policy that
[1:23:12] they just don't want to be
[1:23:14] in street lighting anymore.
[1:23:15] Their rates are quite
[1:23:16] ridiculous. Even
[1:23:18] to convert the Lights, their
[1:23:19] maintenance is very poor.
[1:23:21] You're really in the worst case
[1:23:24] scenario right now with
[1:23:26] PEPCO. You're paying the
[1:23:28] highest cost and getting the
[1:23:30] least level of service. We
[1:23:31] actually want
[1:23:32] to reverse that completely.
[1:23:34] Pay less and get a lot more.
[1:23:36] That's essentially what we're
[1:23:38] proposing. So we reduced it
[1:23:39] down to three options. Option
[1:23:40] three is really again,
[1:23:41] just do nothing. So this is
[1:23:42] your baseline. You're currently
[1:23:44] spending $268,000 a year
[1:23:45] in street lights. Over 20 years
[1:23:48] that will be just under $6
[1:23:50] million at 5.904. What we
[1:23:52] looked at is if you stayed
[1:23:54] with PEPCO and converted to LED
[1:23:55] or if you bought the lights
[1:23:57] from PEPCO and you converted
[1:23:59] to led. So you can see the,
[1:24:01] the costs are slightly better.
[1:24:04] By buying out from PEPCO and
[1:24:06] having us oversee an LED
[1:24:07] conversion, your operating
[1:24:09] costs are actually quite
[1:24:10] similar over the 20 year
[1:24:11] period. But it's the project
[1:24:13] cost where things really get
[1:24:14] separated. It is more than
[1:24:15] double to convert to LED
[1:24:17] with PEPCO. And there is no
[1:24:18] timeline upon which they will
[1:24:20] be able
[1:24:21] to do this conversion. As Hal
[1:24:23] can attest to,
[1:24:25] it has taken them years to even
[1:24:27] do the few hundred lights that
[1:24:28] have been done. So
[1:24:30] by spending just
[1:24:32] under this million dollars,
[1:24:33] you get a great return
[1:24:34] on investment. This is one of
[1:24:35] the best we see and this entire
[1:24:37] project would be done in
[1:24:38] about a year. So our
[1:24:40] recommendation currently this
[1:24:41] is the way staff feels as well
[1:24:43] as we believe it's
[1:24:44] in your best interest
[1:24:45] to purchase the lights
[1:24:47] from pepco. This would put you
[1:24:49] in alignment
[1:24:50] with multiple agencies around
[1:24:52] the country and just know D.C.
[1:24:53] baltimore, they own and
[1:24:55] maintain all their street
[1:24:58] lights as well. You have much
[1:24:59] lower costs. A great return
[1:25:01] on investment. The LED
[1:25:04] conversion is really paramount
[1:25:06] because it does play public
[1:25:07] safety. Everyone knows LED
[1:25:09] lighting at night is easier
[1:25:11] to see. You have better depth
[1:25:12] vision. It's going
[1:25:13] to be easier
[1:25:14] to avoid pedestrians, icicles
[1:25:15] and other collisions just
[1:25:17] because the lighting is much
[1:25:18] easier to use at nighttime. By
[1:25:19] owning and maintaining lights,
[1:25:21] you have better control of the
[1:25:24] lighting design and maintenance
[1:25:25] response times. I see outages
[1:25:26] repaired within five days,
[1:25:27] typically dark sky compliant
[1:25:29] fixtures. We're not going
[1:25:30] to throw a bunch of light up
[1:25:31] into the skies. We're going
[1:25:33] to put the right amount
[1:25:34] of light and have it focused
[1:25:35] at the ground. And of course
[1:25:37] this will reduce or increase
[1:25:38] and improve the nighttime
[1:25:40] public safety because of cars
[1:25:41] and pedestrians and people
[1:25:43] interacting at night. So this
[1:25:44] is just like a snapshot here,
[1:25:47] just an example
[1:25:48] of how this is happening
[1:25:50] within the rates. These rates
[1:25:53] are published, you could look
[1:25:56] them up yourself. These are
[1:25:57] both public Rates from PEPCO.
[1:25:58] So currently you are spending
[1:26:00] $9.31 for a 70 watt high
[1:26:01] pressure sodium fixture. This
[1:26:03] would be maybe
[1:26:05] in a residential neighborhood.
[1:26:06] Typically, this is about 43%
[1:26:07] of your system. What we're
[1:26:09] recommending is you buy
[1:26:10] out the lights. The new monthly
[1:26:11] cost, and this is everything
[1:26:12] all cost in. This includes the
[1:26:14] energy bill from PEPCO and the
[1:26:15] maintenance. So energy and
[1:26:18] maintenance, it would only be
[1:26:20] $2.82. Essentially wrapping
[1:26:21] this up into the 1200 lights,
[1:26:23] roughly that the city will be
[1:26:24] buying. That's how this
[1:26:25] translates into what will be a
[1:26:26] couple hundred thousand dollars
[1:26:28] savings. Which kind
[1:26:29] of leads me to my next slide.
[1:26:31] So excuse me. So you can see
[1:26:33] right here the $268,000. This
[1:26:34] is your current bill. This is
[1:26:36] your existing cost. What we're
[1:26:37] recommending is by buying
[1:26:39] out the lights,
[1:26:40] your bill will now drop down
[1:26:42] to 41,000. And then even when
[1:26:44] we added maintenance,
[1:26:46] which we estimate at $27,000,
[1:26:49] you're going
[1:26:50] to only be spending roughly
[1:26:51] 68,000. So that yields about
[1:26:53] $200,000 savings. And then you
[1:26:55] can see up here,
[1:26:56] under a million dollars
[1:26:57] of investment gives you a
[1:26:59] return of $4 million back.
[1:27:00] That is incredible. That is
[1:27:02] just really good return
[1:27:03] on your investment. And you get
[1:27:05] higher quality lighting and
[1:27:06] service of the system. Excuse
[1:27:12] me, Sorry, I think I jumped
[1:27:13] one. Okay, so the current
[1:27:14] timeline and I'll get
[1:27:16] into a couple details here. So
[1:27:17] again,
[1:27:18] the audit's been completed.
[1:27:19] We're recommending that buying
[1:27:20] out of the system take place as
[1:27:22] the next step. There's roughly
[1:27:24] 1203 fixtures. Once the city,
[1:27:25] the city of Hyattsville will
[1:27:27] own the lights, will then plan
[1:27:28] to do an upgrade to led. That
[1:27:30] upgrade, the installation and
[1:27:32] the lighting itself, the
[1:27:33] fixtures will all be bid out.
[1:27:35] We're just going
[1:27:38] to project management. So those
[1:27:39] are rather large expenses that
[1:27:41] will be publicly bid. And then
[1:27:42] the city maintenance. The
[1:27:45] current plan is that Tanko
[1:27:46] might do the administrative
[1:27:48] side of the maintenance. And we
[1:27:49] will also bid out for a
[1:27:51] contractor who will be
[1:27:53] responsible
[1:27:55] for doing the infield work.
[1:28:01] That's currently just the plan.
[1:28:02] Again, this whole estimated
[1:28:05] timeline is about a year. So
[1:28:08] breakdown of the project costs.
[1:28:14] A good chunk
[1:28:15] of it is just buying
[1:28:17] out the lights. Let's just get
[1:28:18] rid of pepco. We estimate
[1:28:20] currently,
[1:28:21] based upon the numbers they
[1:28:22] publish, roughly a $200,000
[1:28:23] investment. Some
[1:28:24] of these fees, this is
[1:28:26] currently what our contract is.
[1:28:27] This 182,000. That's already
[1:28:28] what we're currently operating
[1:28:30] under. And then you can see the
[1:28:31] conversion will be under
[1:28:32] $600,000 again. Most of this
[1:28:33] would represent just material
[1:28:35] and the installation
[1:28:36] from a contractor. So that is
[1:28:37] it. I can bounce back
[1:28:39] to slides. I'll let you
[1:28:40] guys kind of fire away
[1:28:42] with questions
[1:28:43] from there.
[1:28:44] >> Okay. Can you stop sharing
[1:28:46] screen for a while?
[1:28:47] >> Yes, sir.
[1:28:48] >> Thank you. Colleagues,
[1:28:49] questions? Mr. Haba?
[1:28:51] >> Yes, thank you. Operating
[1:28:56] costs. I think that's where I
[1:28:57] have my question. We saw that
[1:28:59] operating cost between PEPCO
[1:29:01] and the city will comes out
[1:29:03] to be roughly the same.
[1:29:04] But what is included
[1:29:07] in that operating cost
[1:29:10] at the city level? What's the
[1:29:12] breakdown
[1:29:13] for that operating cost?
[1:29:17] >> So the current operating
[1:29:19] cost would be $68,000 compared
[1:29:20] to the. I think it was 82,000.
[1:29:23] That would cover the bill
[1:29:28] of just electricity only to
[1:29:29] Petco and then the maintenance
[1:29:30] costs for any given year.
[1:29:32] >> Okay, but we don't have any
[1:29:34] estimate or any idea of what
[1:29:35] that maintenance cost will be.
[1:29:38] >> The maintenance cost was
[1:29:39] in slide 7. It was
[1:29:44] $26,938. I believe it comes
[1:29:45] out to $2 per pole per month.
[1:29:48] >> That's your estimate?
[1:29:51] Because I heard you saying he's
[1:29:53] gonna have
[1:29:54] to be bidded out.
[1:29:58] >> Yeah. We will be bidding
[1:29:59] out the field work for the
[1:30:00] contractor and then we would be
[1:30:03] the one
[1:30:04] to deploy that contractor.
[1:30:05] Make sure that, you know,
[1:30:07] they're not just fixing one
[1:30:08] life,
[1:30:09] they can fix several things.
[1:30:10] So we get more bang
[1:30:11] for the buck. That is an
[1:30:12] estimate. I currently maintain
[1:30:14] about 20 street light systems
[1:30:15] around the country. So
[1:30:16] fortunate for you,
[1:30:17] I'm not making that number up.
[1:30:18] That's actually high. Most
[1:30:19] of my clients experience costs
[1:30:22] like around $1.60
[1:30:25] to A$70 per pole per month
[1:30:26] for the year. So I'm estimating
[1:30:27] under $27,000. I believe that
[1:30:28] will be high.
[1:30:29] >> You good, Mr. Haba?
[1:30:34] >> Yes, I'm good for now.
[1:30:36] >> Okay, thank you. Mr.
[1:30:38] Schaible?
[1:30:40] >> Thank you, Mayor. I think
[1:30:41] to me, I love these. I like
[1:30:43] statistics and math and
[1:30:45] environmentally friendly
[1:30:47] interventions and all that. So
[1:30:48] this kind of hits a sweet spot
[1:30:50] for me. A few questions
[1:30:52] about it. You said 1200 lights
[1:30:58] and did those include. Let's
[1:31:02] say, you know, there's a lot of
[1:31:04] state or county owned roads
[1:31:05] that bisect our community. Are
[1:31:07] we including purchase of light
[1:31:09] off of roads that we don't own
[1:31:11] or would those be exempted
[1:31:13] for some reason?
[1:31:17] >> I'm going to let Hal speak
[1:31:20] to the state highway.
[1:31:22] Currently, what's not included
[1:31:23] in this analysis was 121 lights
[1:31:24] already owned and maintenance
[1:31:26] maintained by the city. So they
[1:31:28] weren't considered because it
[1:31:30] was already
[1:31:31] in your possession. So how can
[1:31:34] give some more direction
[1:31:35] around lights that the state is
[1:31:37] putting in and turning over
[1:31:39] to the city. And again,
[1:31:41] I think there's. There's just
[1:31:43] more details how it's got. So
[1:31:45] go ahead.
[1:31:47] >> Yes. So to help answer that,
[1:31:48] the city does have several MOUs
[1:31:50] with the state Highway
[1:31:51] Administration, and that
[1:31:53] primarily covers the pedestrian
[1:31:55] lights on Queen's Chapel
[1:31:56] Road, a few on East west
[1:32:00] highway, and the Trolley Trail
[1:32:03] extension that was just
[1:32:05] completed. So those are lights
[1:32:08] that the city will maintain
[1:32:11] once State highway finishes
[1:32:12] their project, closes
[1:32:14] out their project and turns
[1:32:16] them over to the city. But
[1:32:19] they're not lights that we
[1:32:20] would be purchasing from PEPCO
[1:32:23] because they're already owned
[1:32:25] by State highway and the
[1:32:27] city. So the city helped
[1:32:28] to fund those. That
[1:32:30] construction. It was kind
[1:32:31] of a joint agreement with
[1:32:34] State Highway. So we already
[1:32:36] own those lights. We will take
[1:32:38] over maintenance once the,
[1:32:39] Once those projects are
[1:32:41] completed. Now, as far as the
[1:32:43] overhead lights on the state
[1:32:45] roads and the county roads, the
[1:32:46] city would not be taking those
[1:32:48] over. The county and the
[1:32:49] state are responsible
[1:32:51] for those, though I believe the
[1:32:52] state highway might be trying
[1:32:54] to get some
[1:32:55] of the municipalities to take
[1:32:57] on some of those, but we don't
[1:32:58] currently have any agreement
[1:32:59] to do so, and.
[1:33:02] >> We don't pay for that
[1:33:03] electricity right now either.
[1:33:04] >> We should not be.
[1:33:06] >> No.
[1:33:09] >> Though the audit is still.
[1:33:10] We're still trying to hammer
[1:33:12] out the audit that
[1:33:13] Tanko completed with
[1:33:16] PEPCO to make sure we were
[1:33:18] being charged for all the
[1:33:19] correct lights and charged the
[1:33:21] correct dollar amount. So
[1:33:22] we should not be paying
[1:33:24] for them. If we have been
[1:33:26] paying for them, we will be
[1:33:28] requesting a credit back
[1:33:29] from pepco,
[1:33:30] but that's still kind
[1:33:32] of being worked out.
[1:33:35] >> Okay. And it sounds
[1:33:37] like our concept, and I think
[1:33:39] this is probably the way
[1:33:42] to go. Although I wonder,
[1:33:43] you probably have experience
[1:33:45] with this, Mr. Tanko, have you
[1:33:48] worked with jurisdictions that
[1:33:49] have decided to assume this
[1:33:51] responsibility themselves for
[1:33:52] maintenance? I'm not
[1:33:54] necessarily saying I prefer it,
[1:33:56] but I do hear about the issue
[1:33:58] from time to time, and I just
[1:33:59] wonder, is there any
[1:34:01] maintenance that city staff
[1:34:02] does,
[1:34:04] like replace bulbs or anything
[1:34:06] like that? Or would this be a
[1:34:07] system that would be entirely
[1:34:09] dependent on a contractor
[1:34:11] to do maintenance?
[1:34:18] >> Oh, sorry.
[1:34:22] >> No, please go ahead.
[1:34:24] >> I would say that when you
[1:34:26] convert the lights to LED,
[1:34:27] it is a rather robust system.
[1:34:29] We expect that the outage rate
[1:34:31] will be less than 1% related to
[1:34:32] the fixture themselves. I think
[1:34:34] the majority of the outages
[1:34:35] will probably be lined up
[1:34:36] with PEPCO because
[1:34:38] of the amount of lights that
[1:34:39] you're buying and how little
[1:34:40] maintenance will be done going
[1:34:41] forward. It doesn't make sense
[1:34:42] for the city to, let's say,
[1:34:44] buy trucks, hire a crew. It
[1:34:46] could be potentially assumed
[1:34:47] under something else.
[1:34:49] But the other problem with that
[1:34:50] is there's so much change just
[1:34:51] bringing the street light
[1:34:53] under the purview
[1:34:54] of public works. It could be
[1:34:56] good, even if it's just
[1:34:57] temporary, that we're
[1:34:58] at least there to walk you
[1:35:00] through the maintenance
[1:35:01] process. And then maybe
[1:35:02] at some point in the future,
[1:35:04] the city could take it over.
[1:35:05] It could just be a lot to do,
[1:35:06] but it has been done. We could
[1:35:08] consult with you guys
[1:35:09] to set you up
[1:35:11] to make sure that that's ready,
[1:35:13] but it just could be a lot
[1:35:15] to take on. Some
[1:35:18] of our clients,
[1:35:19] the reason why we actually got
[1:35:21] into maintenance is they really
[1:35:22] wanted to hold our feet
[1:35:24] to the fire,
[1:35:25] to all the promises in terms
[1:35:27] of the energy conservation,
[1:35:29] the cost savings,
[1:35:30] as well as they wanted
[1:35:32] to see us at least carry them
[1:35:33] through maintenance
[1:35:34] until they felt like, you know
[1:35:36] what, I'm ready
[1:35:38] to pick this up,
[1:35:39] or what options do I have? So
[1:35:40] we're not a required aspect.
[1:35:42] You don't have to sign up
[1:35:44] with us.
[1:35:46] But it could be good just to at
[1:35:48] least transition because the
[1:35:50] public perception is really the
[1:35:51] priority here. People already
[1:35:52] think you own the lights or
[1:35:54] already seeing the poor
[1:35:55] maintenance. By having at least
[1:35:56] somebody who's adept and ready
[1:35:57] to take over the system
[1:35:58] with a lot of experience,
[1:36:00] they're going
[1:36:01] to see quicker results. Light
[1:36:02] was reported on a Monday, it's
[1:36:03] fixed by Friday. Those are good
[1:36:04] things that we want to see
[1:36:05] in terms
[1:36:06] of public perception, that
[1:36:07] City hall did something right.
[1:36:08] So by all means,
[1:36:09] you could certainly do that
[1:36:10] on your own. But we're trying
[1:36:11] to at least help push that
[1:36:12] through. And it's definitely a
[1:36:13] minimal cost because you just
[1:36:14] don't have that many lights.
[1:36:15] >> So I'll say, I mean,
[1:36:16] generically, we're not the
[1:36:17] subject matter experts
[1:36:18] at this juncture. And that
[1:36:20] cost, you know, as Jason said,
[1:36:21] maybe down the line, but
[1:36:22] at this point we're relying
[1:36:23] on Tanko's expertise and
[1:36:24] appreciate their assistance
[1:36:27] till now and will continue to
[1:36:28] if council sees that fit.
[1:36:30] >> And I would like
[1:36:32] to add one other option to,
[1:36:33] or one other fact to this,
[1:36:35] is that the majority of the
[1:36:37] overhead streetlights are
[1:36:38] directly tied
[1:36:40] into the power grid. There's no
[1:36:41] meter, there's no disconnect
[1:36:43] between them. Therefore, you
[1:36:46] know, the people that work
[1:36:48] on it have to be trained and
[1:36:49] licensed linesmen and those
[1:36:50] folks get paid a lot of money
[1:36:52] that we wouldn't have a enough
[1:36:54] work for somebody that was
[1:36:56] getting paid that much to do
[1:36:58] in the city alone. So it's most
[1:37:04] likely that the city would.
[1:37:06] Would have a contractor do that
[1:37:12] because of those high labor and
[1:37:15] insurance costs.
[1:37:17] >> That's good. I did have
[1:37:18] one. I think
[1:37:20] that's probably does make
[1:37:22] sense that would be the
[1:37:23] way we want to go. Just wanted
[1:37:26] to interrogate it a little bit.
[1:37:28] There's one portion
[1:37:29] that I don't think I heard. It
[1:37:31] kind of, you know, jumped out
[1:37:33] at me when I read it and that's
[1:37:35] that this. As I understand it,
[1:37:37] PEPCO is trying
[1:37:40] to charge a higher rate for
[1:37:41] their streetlights than they
[1:37:42] charge for other electricity
[1:37:44] use. I guess that's what you're
[1:37:46] assuming is their intention.
[1:37:47] They want to get out
[1:37:49] of the streetlight business.
[1:37:51] But that hasn't been approved
[1:37:52] by the Maryland Public
[1:37:54] Service Commission yet.
[1:37:56] Right. So if that does not get
[1:37:58] approved, when will we have a
[1:38:01] decision there? And if it does
[1:38:03] not get approved, would you
[1:38:05] recommend we change course
[1:38:06] again?
[1:38:08] >> I would definitely say once
[1:38:10] it gets approved, we should
[1:38:12] review it and make sure were
[1:38:13] there any additional changes,
[1:38:15] Danny, if you could predict
[1:38:17] when that's going
[1:38:18] to get through. You got my
[1:38:19] money? So we have been waiting
[1:38:21] for this thing. We've been told
[1:38:23] dates. None
[1:38:25] of them have come true. This is
[1:38:27] just the difficulty of dealing
[1:38:28] with PEPCO. I feel it's another
[1:38:30] reason to get as far away
[1:38:31] from him as you can.
[1:38:34] But I am concerned,
[1:38:35] like how much will it change?
[1:38:37] But our communication
[1:38:38] from them is they do seem
[1:38:40] to be establishing that this is
[1:38:41] like what's going to stick.
[1:38:43] It's kind of just getting it
[1:38:44] through the timelines right
[1:38:46] now.
[1:38:47] But it does appear that
[1:38:49] this is what it will be.
[1:38:52] >> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?
[1:38:53] >> Just if you covered it,
[1:38:55] please remind me. But the two
[1:38:56] hundred and plus thousand
[1:38:58] dollars of purchase, is that in
[1:38:59] the DPW budget or is it
[1:39:00] somewhere accounted for
[1:39:01] already?
[1:39:04] >> I can answer that there.
[1:39:06] The city has had money for
[1:39:07] streetlight replacement and LED
[1:39:09] upgrades
[1:39:10] in our capital budget every
[1:39:12] year
[1:39:13] for the past several years. So
[1:39:14] we have included money based
[1:39:16] on this current recommendation
[1:39:18] in our fiscal 26 CIP budget.
[1:39:22] >> Okay.Well, it'll have
[1:39:28] to come back, but...
[1:39:30] >> Always has
[1:39:32] to come back to you.
[1:39:34] >> Lucky you. All right.
[1:39:41] >> Sorry, I couldn't unmute
[1:39:47] there. So as far as the
[1:39:49] estimate to do the actual
[1:39:51] fixture replacement. So that's
[1:39:54] all done in house by Tanko.
[1:40:02] Are you the contractor or is
[1:40:04] that something that you have
[1:40:05] subcontractors for?
[1:40:08] >> Great question. So there'll
[1:40:09] be three pieces to the pie
[1:40:10] for the actual LED conversion.
[1:40:12] We're already one
[1:40:13] of your established ones.
[1:40:14] We're going
[1:40:15] to be the project manager.
[1:40:17] We're going to just make sure
[1:40:18] that the data is coming back
[1:40:19] from the field,
[1:40:20] lights are being converted,
[1:40:21] the right counts are ordered.
[1:40:23] Actually going
[1:40:24] to help you procure
[1:40:25] for the material and
[1:40:26] for the install separately. So
[1:40:28] we're already under contract
[1:40:29] for that, and we're going
[1:40:31] to be bidding out those items
[1:40:33] to make sure we get the best
[1:40:38] bang for the buck. Okay, so
[1:40:39] material and install,
[1:40:42] and it's actually the bulk
[1:40:43] of the cost, I want to say. It
[1:40:44] was. It was 577,000 of the
[1:40:46] 969. So that's.
[1:40:48] >> So that's an estimate,
[1:40:50] then?
[1:40:51] >> Yes, that's correct. We've
[1:40:52] done this enough. We've got
[1:40:53] what we think will be
[1:40:54] reasonable numbers,
[1:40:56] probably a little high
[1:40:57] to what we would expect
[1:40:58] to see back
[1:40:59] from the bid results.
[1:41:00] >> Okay, got it. Thank you.
[1:41:02] >> Thank you. Thank you for the
[1:41:03] presentation and colleagues,
[1:41:05] if there are no other
[1:41:07] questions, we are going
[1:41:08] to move on in our agenda.
[1:41:09] Thank you, folks.
[1:41:14] Proclamations. Vice President
[1:41:16] Waszczak?
[1:41:19] >> 7.a. HCC-361-FY25
[1:41:20] Proclamation in Celebration
[1:41:21] of June 2025 as LGBTQIA+
[1:41:24] Pride Month. I move that the
[1:41:27] Mayor and Council adopt a
[1:41:28] proclamation recognizing and
[1:41:31] honoring June, 2025 as LGBTQIA+
[1:41:33] Pride Month.
[1:41:37] 7.b. HCC-363-FY25 Proclamation
[1:41:39] in Celebration of June 2025 as
[1:41:42] Caribbean-American Heritage
[1:41:43] Month. I move the Mayor and
[1:41:45] Council adopt a proclamation
[1:41:46] recognizing and honoring June
[1:41:47] as Caribbean-American
[1:41:49] Heritage Month.
[1:41:51] 7.c. HCC-364-FY25 Proclamation
[1:41:53] in Celebration of June 2025 as
[1:41:54] Immigrant Heritage Month. I
[1:41:56] move the Mayor and Council
[1:41:57] adopt a proclamation
[1:41:58] recognizing and celebrating
[1:42:00] June as Immigrant Heritage
[1:42:01] Month in the City of
[1:42:03] Hyattsville.
[1:42:05] 7.d. HCC-365-FY25
[1:42:07] Proclamation Declaring June
[1:42:08] 6, 2025, as National Gun
[1:42:12] Violence Awareness Day. I move
[1:42:13] that the Mayor and Council
[1:42:15] declare June 6, 2025, as
[1:42:17] National Gun Violence
[1:42:18] Awareness Day in the City of
[1:42:19] Hyattsville.
[1:42:20] 7.e. HCC-366-FY25 Proclamation
[1:42:22] in Celebration of Juneteenth. I
[1:42:23] move the Mayor and Council
[1:42:25] adopt a Proclamation Observing
[1:42:26] and Celebrating June 19,
[1:42:31] 2025, as Juneteenth in the
[1:42:33] City of Hyattsville.
[1:42:34] 7.f. HCC-369-FY25
[1:42:36] Proclamation Honoring
[1:42:37] Riverdale Park Mayor Alan K.
[1:42:38] Thompson. I move that the
[1:42:39] Mayor and Council adopt a
[1:42:41] proclamation honoring Mayor
[1:42:42] Alan K. Thompson for his 16
[1:42:43] years of service and dedication
[1:42:45] as an elected official to the
[1:42:47] Town of Riverdale Park.
[1:42:48] >> Is there a second?
[1:42:51] >> Second.
[1:42:56] >> Moved and second. All
[1:42:57] in favor?
[1:42:58] >> Aye.
[1:42:59] >> Any opposed? Any abstensions?
[1:43:01] Okay, the ayes have it. Mr.
[1:43:05] Solomon, action items.
[1:43:11] >> Action agenda. 8.a.
[1:43:13] HCC-359-FY25 Streetlight
[1:43:15] Purchase Authorization. I move
[1:43:16] that the Mayor and Council
[1:43:17] authorize the City
[1:43:19] Administrator
[1:43:20] to negotiate and enter
[1:43:23] into an agreement with PEPCO
[1:43:26] for the purchase
[1:43:27] of streetlights
[1:43:28] within the incorporated City
[1:43:29] boundary,
[1:43:30] pending legal review.
[1:43:32] >> Okay, so we've already
[1:43:33] pretty much had a discussion
[1:43:34] about this, but Ms. Riddle,
[1:43:36] would you like to. Well, first
[1:43:37] of all,
[1:43:38] is there a second?
[1:43:39] >> Second.
[1:43:40] >> Would you like to add more
[1:43:41] to this, Ms. Riddle?
[1:43:42] >> Mr. Metzl.
[1:43:43] >> Thank you, Mayor Croslin. I
[1:43:44] think we have fully discussed
[1:43:45] this certainly. If the council
[1:43:47] have any additional questions,
[1:43:49] we'd be happy
[1:43:51] to answer them.
[1:43:57] >> Colleagues, any other
[1:44:00] questions? Seeing none. It's
[1:44:01] been moved. Well, there is one.
[1:44:02] Mr. Nisbett?
[1:44:03] >> Sorry if I missed this
[1:44:05] during the presentation,
[1:44:06] but just one question. For the
[1:44:08] street light conversion, how
[1:44:09] many companies were considered
[1:44:11] and taking on that portion or
[1:44:12] were there any companies that
[1:44:14] were considered?
[1:44:15] >> So we did attempt an RFP
[1:44:17] process. We received one
[1:44:20] solicitation from Tanko.
[1:44:22] Apparently there's very few
[1:44:24] companies that actually do the
[1:44:26] kind of work that Jason and his
[1:44:27] associates are doing
[1:44:29] at this juncture.
[1:44:32] >> Okay, thank you so much.
[1:44:36] >> You got it.
[1:44:38] >> Okay. As I was about
[1:44:41] to say,
[1:44:46] it's been moved and second.
[1:44:47] All in favor?
[1:44:50] >> Aye.
[1:44:52] >> Anybody opposed? Any
[1:44:53] abstensions? The ayes have it.
[1:44:54] So thank you very much,
[1:44:56] folks. We are down
[1:44:57] to council dialogue. So this is
[1:44:59] an opportunity
[1:45:01] for anyone who would like
[1:45:03] to say anything that they would
[1:45:05] like to say to the community or
[1:45:08] anyone else,
[1:45:10] you can raise your hand. Mr.
[1:45:11] Redmond, we'll start
[1:45:12] with you very quickly.
[1:45:13] >> Welcome to our newest
[1:45:15] colleagues. I've said it
[1:45:16] about 18 times, this will be
[1:45:17] the last time I congratulate
[1:45:18] any of the new folks. So just
[1:45:19] soak it in for today. I do
[1:45:20] truly look forward to working
[1:45:22] with the new folks and of
[1:45:25] course my returning and
[1:45:26] existing colleagues.
[1:45:30] >> Thank you. Mr. Solomon?
[1:45:32] >> I can continue
[1:45:35] to congratulate all of you.
[1:45:41] You're doing a great, great job
[1:45:42] and welcome. I also wanted
[1:45:44] to say we have Ward 5 community
[1:45:46] meeting scheduled for. Nate,
[1:45:47] when do we skip?
[1:45:51] >> We have it scheduled for.
[1:45:54] Oh, I just sent an email
[1:45:56] about it. Tuesday, June 17th
[1:45:58] at 6:30 at the Sovereign.
[1:46:01] >> As you noticed
[1:46:04] from last meeting, we approved
[1:46:06] $250 for food and drinks. So
[1:46:07] we'll have a great time and be
[1:46:09] well informed. And I look
[1:46:11] forward to sharing the stage
[1:46:12] with our new council colleague.
[1:46:15] Thank you.
[1:46:17] >> I'm glad you've learned that
[1:46:18] what date it was going
[1:46:19] to be on. Mr. Schaible?
[1:46:23] >> Yeah, I wanted to kind
[1:46:26] of stay on this theme of
[1:46:27] welcoming our new council
[1:46:28] members. Great
[1:46:30] to see you up here
[1:46:34] on the virtual dais with us.
[1:46:35] Look forward to working
[1:46:37] with you more and hearing about
[1:46:38] your initiatives as council
[1:46:40] members. I did
[1:46:44] without being too much of an
[1:46:48] old crank. I did want
[1:46:51] to just put this out there
[1:46:52] for some general thought. You
[1:46:54] know, we had three meetings
[1:46:55] today as council members,
[1:46:57] and one of them is
[1:46:59] during when most
[1:47:01] of us work at, you know,
[1:47:05] noon. I can't speak
[1:47:12] for everyone, but I think most
[1:47:14] of us have Monday through
[1:47:16] Friday day jobs. And I just
[1:47:17] wonder if we would want to
[1:47:19] reconsider how we structure
[1:47:21] these on this transition when
[1:47:22] we are bringing the new council
[1:47:26] on. I found today to be pretty
[1:47:27] harried and distracted from
[1:47:29] work and other familial
[1:47:30] responsibilities. So I wonder
[1:47:32] if we just had consecutive
[1:47:33] night meetings and kind
[1:47:35] of tried to stay out
[1:47:37] of daytime stuff for council.
[1:47:39] That would be a preference
[1:47:41] of mine. Thank you.
[1:47:43] >> Thank you. Mr. Haba.
[1:47:46] >> Thank you, Mayor. Same note
[1:47:51] here. I didn't get a chance
[1:47:53] to say this earlier,
[1:47:55] but I wanted to thank Council
[1:47:57] member Dennis and
[1:47:58] Councilmember Sandino
[1:48:00] for their years of service. It
[1:48:03] was always nice to kind
[1:48:06] of like, do the number games
[1:48:08] with Sam, so I really. It's
[1:48:10] that part and welcome
[1:48:11] to our new Councilmember. I
[1:48:14] look forward to working
[1:48:18] with you. Thank you.
[1:48:25] >> Ms. Lee?
[1:48:28] >> Good evening. I wanted
[1:48:30] to say welcome to all our new
[1:48:31] councilmembers. I look forward
[1:48:32] to working with all of you
[1:48:34] during your term. Also, I
[1:48:36] wanted to remind the residents
[1:48:37] in 9 zone 9B that parking
[1:48:39] permit renewal is taking place
[1:48:40] now, January 1st, June 1st
[1:48:42] through June 30th. So just be
[1:48:44] mindful of that if you need
[1:48:48] to renew your parking pass. If
[1:48:52] you have any questions,
[1:48:54] please feel free to reach out
[1:48:56] to me and Councilman Haba.
[1:49:00] Thank you.
[1:49:02] >> Thank you. Any other
[1:49:03] comments? Okay. Seeing none.
[1:49:05] Can I get a motion
[1:49:06] to adjourn, please?
[1:49:09] >> Move.
[1:49:12] >> Okay. Can we get a second?
[1:49:16] >> Second.
[1:49:18] >> Well,
[1:49:20] at least we got a second.
[1:49:22] Okay, so it's
[1:49:23] been moved. It's been second,
[1:49:25] third, and everything else.
[1:49:26] All in favor?
[1:49:28] >> Aye.
[1:49:29] >> Any opposed? Abstentions?
[1:49:31] No?
[1:49:33] >> Mr. Groenendyk, you're going
[1:49:35] to stay here with Mr. Redmond
[1:49:40] and continue the meeting while
[1:49:43] we leave. That's what council
[1:49:46] desires. You stay with Mr.
[1:49:50] Redmond. Everybody else is
[1:49:52] leaving. Good night, everybody.