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Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the November 1, 2023 regular city council meeting. I'd like to remind everybody that per the Brown Act, if you have a public comment, you will not be able to have a response from council because of the Brown Act. But you are certainly more than able to express your First Amendment right by filling out a speaker slip, which are the blue speaker slips. You just need to add that you're speaking on public comment. If you're here to talk on an agenda item,

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make sure you list the agenda item.

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And as always, I ask everybody to uphold the dignity and

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respect of these people's chambers.

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So please keep your tone of voice soothing and

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amenable for everybody so that everybody can enjoy the civic engagement process.

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So with that, Assistant City Clerk Malone, please call the roll.

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Council member Fisher.

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Fisher here.

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Council member Seaberry.

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Seaberry present.

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Council member McKay.

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I'm going to ask

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you guys to stay here, I'm friends, so we can all take a photo with you, okay?

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much, next we're going to move on to reimbursement disclosures,

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reports on assignments and committees that like to invite each council member to speak

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starting with council member Fisher.

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Thanks, Mayor.

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Not a whole lot to report, but everything happened last Friday.

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I attended the Sandag Board of Directors meeting, and we did pass the $6.34 million budget

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amendment.

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And I wish I would have gotten this in digital form to show it away, but this is a list of

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of our current Sandag projects on the right

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and on the left are some of the proposed.

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So with the budget amendment,

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it's gonna be able to move 27 projects

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either forward to shovel ready

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or at least getting the planning and thing going on.

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So, and the projects range anywhere from expanding

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the 52, the 78, some work on the 15

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and some other projects that will maybe,

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so we're grateful to have that.

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And then on Friday evening,

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I mean, I was grateful to be able to participate in the city's bike parade and trunker treat.

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The Parks and Recs team was gracious enough to let me hang out their booth and hand out tons of candy and it really was a great event.

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I think thanks to the Parks and Recs team for the hard work.

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They had a bouncy house there in Mays.

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I mean, I don't know if there's a final camp, but my guess was probably six, seven, maybe even 800 families and children out there.

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So a lot of people were grateful to have that, so that's all you got.

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Great, thank you very much.

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Councilmember Seaberry.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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On October 19, Thursday, 4.45 a.m., Marvista Pool was opening to the public, and it was before sunrise, dark, cold, foggy morning.

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You know, it was a dedicated city staff employees, the Lifeguards, Dylan, and Jose, parks and recreation director Shannon and her assistant Cara,

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City manager Tyler arriving to set up the lanes, tables, and chairs.

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Did I mention it was before sunrise and it was dark and cold, so 12 or so members showed up to swim.

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In October 26th, Imperial Beach Chamber of Commerce, the Taste of IB Zombie Costume Crawl, this year they had 14

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interest, which was a lot less than they had in the summer time, but it was still good.

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I saw Mayor Pro Tem Gonzales there, and let's see.

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So it started at Seaco's candy and went along Seaco's to the pier, and it had desserts,

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appetizers, tacos, burgers, and gifts, and then it ended up at the pier, and they had a

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zombie flash mob, and it was dancing to, of course, Michael Jackson's thriller.

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And then today, November 1st, the United States Marine flag raising in front of

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here City Hall, and that was the largest attendance gathering for any of the flag raising so far.

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Mayor Gary kicked it off with a few words followed by the VFW judge Advocate John Hayeth.

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And the flag was hoisted up by a retired Marine Bobby Kennedy and

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Garth with the city grounds and facility supervisor.

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And also that we had VFW commander Mark Doyle here as the VFW house committee chairs Jason Kuring and Mark's Jacobs.

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And that's all folks.

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Great.

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Thank you so much, Council Member McKay.

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Thank you Madam Mayor.

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Like my fellow Council members, I attended some of the same events.

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I was very pleased to be able to participate in the Trunkertree event that the city co-hosted.

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I thought it was great that we had a movie, The Goonies was shown, a classic movie.

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I also attended this morning's Marine Corps flag raising, URA, my wife's former Marine.

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Also on October 21st, we had our last public input for the ad hoc finance group at Farmers Market.

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And so we're proceeding with staff on that.

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And a bunch of things coming up in the next couple weeks, but that's it for now.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Council Member. Mayor Pro Tem.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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Aside from the fun activities that went on this past week through the city, on the 19th, I attended the MTS Board of Directors meeting.

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So the previous council meeting, we had numerous residents show up to express their concern for the new Rapid 227 MTS route.

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So, these are the 60 foot buses that are going through and they say every 15 minutes.

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But while I was waiting for the taste of IB to start, I was literally at Pete's support

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for less than an hour and I lost count of how many buses were going by and how many were

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in training and were empty.

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So I was strategic at the board meeting and I got with the chair, Whitburn.

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And I asked him when he felt would be the most appropriate time for me to express my concerns on behalf of the City of Imperial Beach and all the residents.

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He stated during his report, so it was kind of coincidental that he was reporting on the new route.

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And then I just basically chimed in and expressed everything from the safety concerns, from the lack of outreach on behalf of MTS,

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to why we need large buses going down residential areas.

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I mean, I went through because there were numerous bullet points that I had and I tried to cover as much as possible, so it's on record.

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So moving forward, I want to thank City Manager Fultz and staff because we have planned up next week a meeting with MTS, and we want as many residents to attend as possible to voice your concerns over this.

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because I mean, we have to approach it in a particular manner, but something has to change, and I have no problem voicing my opinion on behalf of everybody here in Imperial Beach, because everybody is very displeased with the route and what's going on, and ultimately I wouldn't be sitting on that seat if it wasn't for the people of Imperial Beach.

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each, so if you have any additional concerns, feel free to reach out to me.

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I can speak with you, meet with you, but it's very important.

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So, I support each and every person and their concerns and I look forward to us having

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a very productive meeting, and that's all I have.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Thank you, Mayor Proton.

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And thank you for making yourself so available to the community.

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We want the community to know that we hear you, we see you and we're here to serve, excuse

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me.

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On October 19th, I attended the State Lands Commission to give an update on the sewage crisis.

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That was attended by Lieutenant Governor Lenny Konalakis.

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And then on that same day, I attended the San Diego Community Power Finance and Risk Management Subcommittee.

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Where we voted on a number of items that were later considered at the board meeting, which was on October 26th for community power.

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I also attended the Trunkertreat event on October 27th and I have to say it was one of the best days of my life seeing so many smiles and seeing all the families having a great time, great job to the Parks and Rec team, great job to all the booths from all the different departments, including the Sheriff's Department and Councilmember Seaberry, who was there, we were all there I think that day, but I just want to quickly make a public service announcement that

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But in my opinion, every single kid that competed in the costume contest won.

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We were told that only one could win, but in my opinion, everybody won.

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They were so amazing.

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And then on October 30th, I went to Bayside Steam Academy to pick up letters from

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address to the president from third graders and fifth graders.

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So I just want to thank the principal and Ms. Lisa and Ms. Grants for helping organize that.

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I know that's a priority and an initiative that Councilmember Fisher has initiated many

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months ago.

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I think it's great that we engage our kids in civic activities.

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And then, excuse me, I'm coming off of a flu here.

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October 30th, I attended the USMCA stakeholders meeting.

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So that's basically IBWC, EPA, a list of different entities including the City of Improbeach to get an update on where the treatment plant repairs and expansion are right now.

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There's been, as you all know, some delay and there's been some funding requests.

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We're not across the hurdle yet, but we are going to continue to advocate to have that funding approved in the next

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16 days because the continuing resolution expires on November 17th, so the clock is ticking.

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And then, of course, today we were honored to have so many of our community members, our veterans, our VFW there to raise the United States Marine Corps flag at City Hall.

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And I'm sorry, I missed the zombie crawl. It was in my plan to attend. But again, I was fighting the flu, so I couldn't make it. But I will absolutely do that next year. And then last day, I just like to make a quick service announcement tomorrow is day of the dead, the other los mortos. We're going to have a great celebration at Veterans Park in partnership with the San Diego County Library and our amazing Parks and Rec Department.

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at 3.30 we'll start the event with story time I'm going to read some books for kids there I encourage

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everybody to come dressed in their Katrina or their regalia if they so choose and then at four

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we're going to have face painting with beautiful Día de los Muertos design and then at 4.15 we're

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going to have a performance by Nahuatlán of Marista High School Ballet for Clorico and then at 5 we're

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We're going to have a live mariachi performance, so I encourage everybody to join and learn

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about this tradition.

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And if you have someone that you've lost recently, a loved one, or if you've lost them

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a long time ago, please come in and uplift them and celebrate their lives at this really

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great event.

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And with that, I'm going to turn it over to City Manager Fultz.

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Just a couple of announcements.

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First, with regards to the MTS meeting referenced by Council Member Laybukenzollas, it's going to take place November 8th, so that's Wednesday at 6 o'clock.

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The reason we're doing it at 6 o'clock is so that people who are working can come and attend after work.

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However, it's going to be on site at the northeast corner of 3rd and Imperial Beach Boulevard.

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And that's so that we can see the buses driving by.

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It's going to be dark though at 6 o'clock.

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So everybody just keep that in mind. We'll try and find some lights, but also please if you're going to attend bring bring some jackets so that you can keep warm

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Next want to at least inform the community that the silver strand half marathon is going to be taking place November 12

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They're not running through Imperial Beach

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It's going to be in Coronado and on silver strand, but they are turning around just

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West of rainbow drive

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So just keep in mind that there's going to be traffic control on highway 75 that day. So that's November 12

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and last I'd like to invite Lily up for an announcement.

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Good evening. On our Mayor, City Council, City staff.

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This is Lily Flight, Finance Director.

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And I would like to introduce a new employee in the Finance Department.

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We have a new manager named Ms. Larissa.

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And I would like to invite her to introduce herself.

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Hello, Council members. My name is Laura Sapetro.

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I'm the new Finance Manager for this beautiful city.

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I'm a San Diego native, I did my bachelors in accounting and finance from the University

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of San Diego.

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I have a master's in accounting from San Diego State.

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I come here from North County Dispatch JPA, which is the 911 for fire in EMS in North

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County.

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It was there for six years, and I'm really excited to be a part of this new team.

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So thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Welcome to the team.

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Next we're going to go to public comments.

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We're

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going to call out a front, Steve Futterman first, followed by Steve Running Wolf.

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You'll have three minutes.

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Thank you.

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And please state your name and if you're a resident of Imperial Beach for the next.

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Yes, Steve Futterman, live on Second Street on the resident of Imperial Beach.

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And I want to thank Mayor Pro Tem, Labour Consolves for taking the leadership on the bus issue.

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I'm actually here to speak to that, but I don't want to create a redundancy, so I'll just speak.

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So it gets sent it into the public records.

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So I live on second and I walk my dog on third so I see what's going on there and it's really astounding and defies logic to see an almost always empty bus, massive machine 60 feet, weighing 53 tons, plowing down, transition through a residential neighborhood, it's destroying the quality of life of the residents and it could potentially result in a tragic mishap.

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I have no doubt the drivers are talented but they're human beings and they're flawed like

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many of us are and they include fatigue and distractions that they might encounter.

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The ability to break on short notice pulling 53 tons has got to be an issue.

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Transition through multiple crosswalks and you'll see that if you walk down third which I do

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consistently were pedestrians, awareness in residential crosswalks is different than major

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roadways.

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And we see this, we see young people transition and crossing with cell phones, they're not

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not paying attention. Those buses are quiet. I will say that you barely haven't, but that creates a hazard that we might not see.

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We do need a rational public transport, excuse me, we need a rational public transport strategy, but it should be based on a solid analysis where the end goal should serve our community, including quality of life, and make sure that folks that don't have cars should be able to get where they need, in a safe manner.

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But MTS is a quasi-governmental entity, and their mission doesn't always have to align

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with the needs or quality issues of our town, that's just not how it works.

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I'm sure they've already been here with PowerPoints and playbooks, and I'm sure Mayor Pro Tem

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Gonzales has had through numerous shows, but it's their playbook, and what I've seen when

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I've gone to a lot of these types of meetings, they have little imagination, and very little

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understanding of a city that is complex because we're built in a cul-de-sac, so we have different

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needs.

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And I hope at some point, I've been here 22 years, but I'd like to see maybe a little

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more imagination how we approach these public debates.

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So I know there's a broader conversation about hubs, but I just want to end by saying

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again, Mayor Pro Temcoz, I'm so appreciative that you've taken the lead on this, and I spoke

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into Council Member McKay and see again, thank you so much, and I'll be at the meeting.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Next we have Steve Runningwolf, followed by Adrian River. Good evening.

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Most of you know me already, and I really enjoy coming here, but I hate it when I feel

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like I have to come here.

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Most of you have come by the park. We have a problem with the

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water.

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The city manager was there and the mayor was there and we were told that they were

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going to test it. That they would give us a written notice of what they were going

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to do in 48 hours. We got a letter 72 hours later saying that they would test it within

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the next 30 days. I have been up there repeatedly asking, can I be part of the test since I was

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the one to discover the problem.

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Basically I got a verbal this afternoon at 430 that there's

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absolutely nothing wrong with this water. They've already tested it according to them and said

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that it's fine, there's nothing there. You guys have witnessed me actually pulling it out of the

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possible. You know what it is. Now, I hate to get frustrated with these people. We've

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already had problems before over other problems, sewers, and what ever the six-month shuffle.

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Anyway, this has become a major problem to everybody in the park. Most of the people in

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there that are moving in right now are paying almost 1,350 a month for the

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rental space. And then you have to pay an extra 20 to $40 a month for this. Now

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I could probably find this in a mud puddle cleaner than this is. And for them

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just come back today. They told us how they were going to test it. They didn't do that.

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Nothing has been pulled off. They were going to remove the meter, put a new faucet on,

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test the water, didn't do it. They come in. He won't tell me how they tested,

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won't tell me where they tested, won't give me anything in writing, told me that he was busy with the

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the rental increases that they're trying to incorporate now to inform everybody on the rental increases.

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They didn't have time to give me any kind of thing other than a verbal that this is fine.

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I'm running out of time here and I appreciate it, but I'm sorry, but I'm tired of fighting them, I can't fight them by myself.

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I need some help.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Runningwolf, and we can't discuss that item today, but that is absolutely

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egregious and appalling.

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And I challenge the manager or the owner to drink that water that's in your bottle.

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If they think that it's clean, we saw it and it's disgusting.

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And the fact that you guys can't even drink water or bathe yourselves or wash dishes should

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not be happening in our town to anybody.

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Thank you.

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So City Manager Fultz is going to follow up on that, and that's all we'll say at this time.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Adrian Rodriguez, followed by Michael Dugan.

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Good evening, council members and Mayor.

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My name is Adrian Rodriguez.

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I am not a resident of the City of Imperial Beach.

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I am here today speaking on behalf of the SCIU members that it represents at the city.

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I'm the chief negotiator for the city employees who offer vital and crucial services for public

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services, especially ocean front safety for the public.

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We are currently in contract negotiations and city workers have waited months to receive

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a response from the city on, from their bargaining team.

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So the city employees who provide these important services were disappointed when the city's first counter-proposal was also presented as its last and final options.

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As we respond to the city's counter-proposal, we want to keep in mind that we are engaging in a fair bargaining process.

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Yes, we ask the city to consider the long-term positive impact that this could have on the city's workforce when we invest in full-time and part-time employees throughout the city.

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Some of those employees will hear from today.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Rodriguez, followed by, we have Michael Dugin, followed by Alfredo Gallegos.

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Hello, my name is Michael Dugan. I'm a proud member of SEIU and also a proud employee of the City of Imperial Beach.

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I've been working for the City of Imperial Beach for just over eight years now, and the city has helped take care of my family.

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But unfortunately, with the rise of cost of living, the rise of inflation that we've all seen, it's getting harder and harder to keep this job.

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Unfortunately, this job is now costing my family more money.

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Where a single income household, my wife gets the privilege of staying home and

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taking care of our son, who's nine months, and we're very proud of him.

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But unfortunately, this job is costing us.

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It's costing us my education as had been put on hold to keep this job.

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People ask me, how is school going?

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And I say, well, I'm staying home and

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taking care of my son, you know, spending more time, but the reality is I'm not.

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I get two hours to go home and be a father, be a husband, and then I go to my night job.

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My weekends are taking up supporting my family, and I just ask that you help us keep this job.

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I still work here because I believe in this job, and I feel like my work matters here.

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I feel like I'm empowered to make effective change in the city and help the residents, personally I work for the Public Works Department, the Public Works Inspector, acting Public Works Inspector.

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The city has given me that opportunity and I take it very, very serious and I understand that it's an amazing opportunity for me, but unfortunately it's getting harder to keep this job.

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And like I said, this job is important to me.

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I feel like all of our members here do very important services for the city, do very important services for its residents.

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And we all take it very serious and we respect this position.

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And that's why a lot of us continue to work here because we respect the city.

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The city is amazing.

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The city gives us amazing opportunities to do things that we may not have.

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the opportunity of doing another positions and other jobs, and I just ask for your support

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in making sure that we can continue to do that here because I feel like we can make

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effective change here in the city. I feel like we can do important work in upholding the

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city's residents' safety, upholding the residents' public interest and their investments, and

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that's what we do every day. Take care of the streets, take care of the parks, take care of

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residents and we want to continue to do that because that's what we love doing and we want to continue

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with that. We just ask that you support us as our union is going through negotiations. Thank you.

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Thank you so much and thank you for sharing your personal perspective. Mr. Gallegos followed by

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the San Calajan. How's everybody doing? Thank you for having me. My name is Alfredo Gallegos. I am not

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a resident of Imperial Beach. I do work for the city of Imperial Beach. I'm here also on behalf

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of my partners at public works. The same thing like Michael just said, asking you guys to think

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thoroughly about helping us during these negotiations. More so, some of us that have not gone

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in a pay raise in a significant amount of time, we do.

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We depend solely on these cost of living adjustments and the numbers. Like Mike said, a lot of us are here because we love our job. We love working here. The people around us is cool. Just the numbers seem our landage that some of us have to take a second job. Sell at the SWAT meet or whatever we have to do to make ends meet. In past years, the numbers of the percentages increases that I've received.

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give us 65 cents, 72 cents.

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I ask you guys to think, how would you feel if you got a 72 cents pay increase?

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How would that affect your life?

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It's affected us deeply.

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All of us, all my partners, that public works are on the same boat.

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It's just, we need the help, we need you guys to be on our side when you guys go to be

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with us.

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You guys smile in her face and they say, and you know, you guys, we're all good people together, just you have the power to help us.

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Like, we need help.

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You know, a corner and egg is not cheap, gas is not cheap, rent is not cheap.

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This is the most expensive city to live in, right?

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You heard?

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So you take a 72 cent pay increase and try to make it.

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You know, I'm asking you like a lot of my partners will ask you just help like don't think

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about helping help right because we pay your streets, we fix your sidewalks, we trim

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your trees, we keep your parks good, we remove your graffiti, we keep your sewer system

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going great, right? The city is beautiful, there's no vandalism, there's no damage, we do what

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we do because we love it, now we need you guys to love us back.

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So just don't think about it, do it, please, thank you.

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Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience.

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Mr. Cullahan, followed by Kyle and Henderson.

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And for the following speakers, that's why I'm mentioning the next speaker so

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you can make your way to the aisle so that you're ready to speak.

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Go ahead.

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I'm sorry, but I thought somebody was in front of me.

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Hello, my name is Dean. I do live in the city of Imperial Beach. I'm a proud SEI local

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221 member who has worked for the city for 28 years. I work in the facilities department.

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I personally have not had a step increase in 7 years and many of my co-workers haven't

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either. We have been told to do a great job with few employees. We live in the region that

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includes San Diego, which is named the most expensive place to live in the entire nation.

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We've also been here by raising inflation, which means our salaries aren't keeping up.

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Unfortunately, that doesn't have our paychecks, but means we are falling behind on recruiting

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and retaining city employees.

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Ultimately, our city is resident and the services that they depend on will suffer if this continues.

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As we negotiate a new contract, all we are asking is to be fairly paid for work providing

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vital services.

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After three months of waiting, Council came and management came back with 70% less than

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what we asked for.

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come on, would you wait seven years for a raise?

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Kyle Henderson, followed by Clayton Howard.

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Hello, council.

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My name is Kyle Henderson.

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I'm not a resident here, but I'm a worker.

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I've been working for the city for nine years in the parks department.

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The city's been good to me for those nine years.

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They took care of a lot of things I went through, especially with my family, because my daughter

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is special needs.

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I had to leave work with no notice at all sometimes.

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I had to take two weeks off my daughter's surgery.

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She had a brain surgery and the city was there for me.

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I hope during these negotiations that the city will still continue being there for me and my family as well as my co-workers.

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That's all I have to say and thank you for hearing me out.

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Of course, thank you for sharing.

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Next, we have Mr. Clayton Howard.

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Lesbiko will be Chris Johnson.

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Hello, good evening.

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My name is Clayton, not a resident, but been with the city for many years.

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I was gratefully offered a full-time position with the Park and Rex Department almost a year

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ago.

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I am part of the division of keeping the streets clean, alleyways, homeless encampments, etc.

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That's a proud member of our union.

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I'm here just to advocate for all of my co-workers that we just need a fair increase to keep

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up with, you know, leaving it living in the most expensive region in the country.

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You know, we all do wonderful things at keeping the city clean, whether, you know, we're, you

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know, in deep into homeless encampments, cleaning them up, removing graffiti, you know, and making

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making our community that nice, beautiful, you know,

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surfer community, you know, that nice, small hometown feeling that we all have.

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But at the end of the day, we need to make sure that we are paid fair

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and that it will match with everybody, you know,

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all the other municipalities throughout the region.

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And I'd just like to thank you for the time and, you know,

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hopefully we can be able to get what we all need at the end of the day.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Howard.

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And next, Chris Johnson.

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Good evening, council.

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My name is Chris Johnson.

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I've been an employee with the city of Imperial Beach for six and a half years about now.

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One thing I've noticed is it just seems like it's public works versus city hall constantly.

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We don't get the things that we need, we need new stuff over at our public work facility.

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We need more employees out in the parts, it's just me and Kyle doing all the work.

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We've got John as well, and there's so many things that need to be done and

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we can't do them because we don't have enough employees.

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My other public works employees, fellow co-workers, I mean, they pretty much feel the same way.

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that morale is low lower than you can think of so we would appreciate some help and

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getting things done, getting more employees, more pages like everybody else has said, inflation

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is the biggest problem. Inflation hits everything. All of us, we're all hurting and I love working

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hard. I walk to work every single day. I live right next to public works. If I didn't have

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of that, I wouldn't be able to drive here.

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I drive a truck, and that thing eats gas.

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And I sure as hell ain't going electric.

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Excuse me.

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So, there's other things that I've noticed too,

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is there's been employees that have been hired here

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that started out pretty much the same position I did.

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And within six months, you got promoted

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to a maintenance two position, one person was promoted within six months to a lead position.

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Me, when it came time for me to get promoted to a two, they said no, they couldn't do that,

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but these other employees could get that. I don't understand why. I don't think something like

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that should happen. There's a lot of other things that go on. I think that maybe we can talk about

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up on the sidelines, it doesn't have to be brought up here, but I think maybe we should at some point.

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Thank you very much for the time.

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Thank you for sharing.

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Mike drop.

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Okay, okay, let's not be performative here.

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All right, well, I just want to thank, I don't have a speaker slip left.

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That was the last one.

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Did you feel out of speaker form?

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Do you want to speak?

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Can you feel one out real quick?

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He

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has it behind you or you can speak and then just fill it out once you're done and I'll keep you

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Please state your name for the record and if you are resident of in Probeach and you have three minutes

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I'm not a resident in Probeach. I'm an employee of a public works

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I'm out here right now my family and a bike life community that I I

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Pretend to

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We get together and ride right into Imperial Beach because it's not just clean, safe.

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It's an environment that I work in and I continue to press on trying to make it better and make it safer.

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You can see if you guys go out right now, you guys see the support that I got

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and we have the, as a second job, I go out and fix bikes.

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I do events that will bring happiness and joy and the time

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that I can spend with my kids.

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I'm not going to get a second job.

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I'm not going for a second job.

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I'm just going to continue with the bike life

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and bringing it into Imperial Beach.

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And make a note that we need help to be able to spend

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time with our family. You guys are taking a lot of our time away by not helping right now that

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we're in negotiation. We've been waiting from July to now. A response and a good response

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hasn't been put up. So I just want to see the changes for all of us that came in right now in

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purple and different shirts just representing ourselves needing the help from it like all of you guys

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you know I don't even know how the words are the the mine right now just because I'm nervous to

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think that we're not going to get the help and we need it. I come nervous in the mornings I come

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mad knowing that we don't have answers since July and the answer that we got from you guys right

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know it's just it's bad you know it's not just not happiness we're not happy with what we got as a

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we're counter out we're we're countering you guys on the proposal

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proposing proposed you guys did to us it we're countering it because it's nothing it's it's

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we need a we need we need help basically

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Erica, such a good worker. All of you guys are such good workers. We need you guys as

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help, not spot fighting with each other and just get this thing rolling. There's not

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way to learn to the year. Still, tomorrow, we need it since July the 1st when we,

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00:41:55,290 --> 00:41:58,450
when

422
00:42:00,170 --> 00:42:01,310
Thank you very much.

423
00:42:01,350 --> 00:42:04,410
Don't forget to fill out your speaker slip, please, for the record.

424
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:08,830
And I'll just quickly say I want to thank everybody who spoke today.

425
00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:11,070
I know for some it might have been easy.

426
00:42:11,470 --> 00:42:12,850
I know for some it might have been hard.

427
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:16,350
Nonetheless, thank you for standing up for your co-workers for yourself.

428
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:18,330
And for being here, you're seeing, you're heard.

429
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:20,130
And we're going to continue those conversations.

430
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:23,350
That's all I can say about that because we're negotiations, but thank you.

431
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:27,650
We're going to move on now to item number 7a, presentation.

432
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:33,470
Presentation, thank you for keeping orderly quite.

433
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:34,190
Thank you.

434
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:42,290
7a, presentation by SCSU on Rainbarrow Benefits Study for Imperial Beach, Environmental and Natural Resources Director Helmer.

435
00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:44,270
Helmer, we'll introduce the item.

436
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:48,370
Well, good evening, Mayor and Council.

437
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:53,970
Earlier this year, you asked staff to look into some city policies related to Rainbarrels.

438
00:42:53,970 --> 00:42:59,730
And around that same time, we are fortunate to have researchers from San Diego State actually

439
00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:03,290
looking into something, to quantifying the benefits of rain barrels and they're actually

440
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:04,150
working in our community.

441
00:43:04,310 --> 00:43:12,450
So we asked Kean and then Dr. Hassan Devani here to give a presentation and update on the

442
00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:14,890
research at San Diego State, so I'll pass it off to Kean.

443
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:22,700
Good evening, City Council members.

444
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:29,400
Today I'm here to present the results from a collaborative study between UC San Diego and

445
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:35,960
San Diego State University, where we studied possible solutions to assist the city of Imperial

446
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:45,340
Beach mitigate flooding. We combined computer modeling with a social survey to assess the potential

447
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:51,960
benefits in community perceptions toward rain barrel and rain garden installations.

448
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:56,080
For the purpose of this presentation, we're just going to focus on rain barrels.

449
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,280
Some

450
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,580
key results from our social survey business owners have the highest

451
00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:10,700
familiarity and with storm water issues and we're most likely to adopt

452
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:18,250
rain barrels from the likelihood distribution chart at the bottom left.

453
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:23,830
You can see that the majority of survey responders were 80 to 100% likely to

454
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:28,810
install rain barrels. Of the survey responders on average they

455
00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:34,290
They considered a minimum of a $100 incentive to be needed to install a rain barrel.

456
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:40,190
And now looking at the bottom right of the slide, the highest number of responses came

457
00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:46,070
from the F and B watersheds and the highest percentage of responses divided by the watershed

458
00:44:46,070 --> 00:44:50,230
area came from the W and the lowest from the F's watershed.

459
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:58,050
So some potential outreach could be beneficial when we look at the F's watersheds to get the

460
00:44:58,050 --> 00:44:59,350
word out about rain barrels.

461
00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:33,000
Of the people who were interested in installing rain barrels, the key reasons or motivations for the implementation was for water conservation, and to be able to save some money. Of the people who wanted to use rain barrels, 90% would use the water for their plants and or lawn, and a lower percentage would use it for laundry and or toilet flushing. Some key concerns for rain barrel implementation.

462
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,760
I'm having the lack of authority, so if they needed permission from a homeowner or the

463
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,340
homeowner association, say if they were a renter, infrastructure and feasibility, so

464
00:45:44,340 --> 00:45:50,180
lacking roof gutters and plumbing efforts would keep people from wanting to use it for

465
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:55,760
laundry or toilet flushing, not having enough rain, disease transmission from mosquitoes and

466
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,260
other insects and startup and maintenance difficulty, I'll address some of these concerns

467
00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:01,340
in the final slide.

468
00:46:01,340 --> 00:46:01,340
And

469
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:11,570
from our computer models, we were able to estimate that a citywide implementation of

470
00:46:11,570 --> 00:46:17,070
rain barrels would be able to collect approximately 65 million gallons of water annually.

471
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:24,830
And assessing some flood reduction, flood reduction, looking right outside this city chambers

472
00:46:25,540 --> 00:46:26,870
at a monitoring point.

473
00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:34,130
When we simulate a one inch rain event, there is a reduction in peak flow.

474
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:38,890
and a reduction in the flood depth with rain barrel installation.

475
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:46,240
And finally, just addressing some of those concerns that I pointed out in a previous slide.

476
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,080
In regards to their not being enough rain,

477
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:51,280
even with one inch of rain,

478
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:53,960
draining off of a 100 square foot roof,

479
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,740
you would be able to fill a 60 gallon rain barrel.

480
00:46:58,820 --> 00:47:03,000
And proper uses of screens or removing obstructions from rain barrel

481
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,400
could prevent mosquitoes from laying their eggs and standing water, so maintenance and

482
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,760
proper equipment could benefit from preventing the mosquitoes.

483
00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:18,760
And installation tutorials are available both from the city and county of San Diego.

484
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:23,620
And these tutorials can provide people with a better understanding of what would be needed to

485
00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:25,820
install and maintain these ring bells.

486
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:28,860
And with that, I thank you and would be happy to answer any questions.

487
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,140
Thank you so much for the presentation.

488
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:34,280
We don't have any public comments on this item.

489
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,040
Okay, we're going to turn it over to Council Questions or comments.

490
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:41,380
Starting with Council Member McKay.

491
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:42,920
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

492
00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:46,340
I had a question about the simulation you ran.

493
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,180
Was that in an El Nino year or did you work across multiple years?

494
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:56,880
We did it across a four year continuous simulation and yeah.

495
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:03,720
Yeah, so kind of that average rainfall collection is kind of averaging how much was collected from those four years?

496
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:08,820
How many of those four years were, what would we consider a typical El Nino year?

497
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,720
Did you take a four-year span?

498
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:12,720
Yeah.

499
00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:14,860
Or did you take four individuals?

500
00:48:15,020 --> 00:48:20,040
No, we took a four-year span, I believe it was from 2013 to 2017.

501
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:20,560
2017.

502
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:20,720
2017.

503
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:21,860
Okay, thank you.

504
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:24,600
Council Member Fisher.

505
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:28,500
Thanks for coming out and finishing up this presentation.

506
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,440
I just have one question.

507
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:36,200
You mentioned in the survey that it was sent out that there were stormwater issues.

508
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,940
What stormwater issues were expressed to those who took the survey?

509
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,040
I'm just kind of curious what some of our residents kind of think, because we don't have a whole

510
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,480
lot of storms.

511
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,300
I'm just curious.

512
00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:58,340
So the survey was passed out at the IB farmers market as well as we stood outside the library and provided it on next door.

513
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,160
And in the survey we have photos of areas that typically flood.

514
00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:11,280
And yeah, we asked about the people if they had experienced flooding,

515
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:21,060
depending on where they were in relation to the watershed, and we showed them the watershed map as well in the survey.

516
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:23,720
Okay, right, thank you.

517
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,380
You remind me your name.

518
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:28,000
I can't please.

519
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,880
Keon Bagary.

520
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:34,280
Mr. Bagary, thank you so much for the presentation to both of you for all your research and work.

521
00:49:34,660 --> 00:49:39,640
I just have a couple of clarifying questions, and then a couple of policy related questions.

522
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,240
And so, can you go back to the pie chart?

523
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Yeah, I was just curious, that all doesn't add up to 100,

524
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,620
so I was just, how does that work?

525
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,560
So it's of the respondents.

526
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:54,360
We gave them kind of a multiple choice.

527
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:59,740
If you would use a rain barrel, what would you use it for?

528
00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:02,640
And 90% of the people who did want to use it

529
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,480
would use it for rain barrels.

530
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,300
30% of the people would use it for,

531
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:13,020
I guess it was like a multiple choice and you could select multiple uses.

532
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:15,880
Okay, thank you for clarifying that.

533
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:21,020
And then going back to the watershed map, are these, there's no legend.

534
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,500
So I'm not sure if these are the multiple watersheds within San Diego County, are these subbasins

535
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:27,980
of certain watersheds?

536
00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:30,520
This is subbasins of Imperial Beach.

537
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,460
This is Imperial Beach.

538
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:42,400
Yeah, so the entire outline that for this outer most outline would be the entire city of Imperial Beach and then different sub watersheds within Imperial Beach.

539
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,320
That's what I imagined, but I wasn't sure.

540
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:51,340
So the darker areas were more likely to, what is the 34?

541
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,000
It's just response rate.

542
00:50:53,420 --> 00:50:57,220
So you had higher response rates closer to the coast that you were.

543
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:57,780
Exactly.

544
00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:57,940
Exactly.

545
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:03,740
And I see that you had some questions related to renters versus business owners.

546
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,820
Was that because you had a low response rate from renters and maybe they were harder to

547
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:10,200
get to?

548
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,160
Yes.

549
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:14,460
Generally, we had a lower response rate from renters.

550
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:21,400
Some people would actually not even participate because they felt that they might not have control

551
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,700
over.

552
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:22,280
Exactly.

553
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,580
Exactly.

554
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:33,440
Do you have any policy recommendations to work with, for example, multi-family housing and things like that because our city is 70% multi-family housing.

555
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,060
So it's a key component of this equation.

556
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:43,940
So it'd be interesting to see if you can share some recommendations with us on how to do that outreach and maybe help them.

557
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:51,760
At the moment, yeah, I would say just more, so when you say multifamily, are you saying?

558
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,720
Renters basically.

559
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,760
Oh, renters.

560
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:55,020
So apartment buildings.

561
00:51:55,860 --> 00:52:07,960
Yeah, I mean, I guess first and foremost, letting them know that the owners and the homeowner association would be on their side if they were willing to maintain and actually go through the installation.

562
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:14,200
I think just the uncertainty of whether or not it would even be a possibility for them.

563
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,520
So I guess just facilitating a conversation there.

564
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,740
And that could be potentially something we do like forum or a community outreach meeting

565
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:28,560
because I noticed that the lower response rate is where the highest concentration rate of renters are.

566
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:37,600
And then just lastly, yeah, so regarding, I think the 60 gallons per 100 square feet is great.

567
00:52:37,960 --> 00:53:07,460
That's a significant amount of water that we could capture and prevent from clogging our storm drains which we just heard all of our public works and streets guys work so hard, we could maybe help them in that way, but I'm thinking more so you talked a little bit about the guidance as far as the covers and prevention of mosquito proliferation, do you have any recommendations on policy to help facilitate that type of enforcement?

568
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:14,320
or what other cities have done, because that's important, we already have issues with invasive species

569
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,360
of mosquitoes in the river valley, the encroach into the Tijuana estuary, so we want to make sure

570
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,000
that we do our due diligence if we move forward with this project. So for what I've read is just

571
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:30,500
proper use of screens, not allowing there to be standing water outside of the rain barrels,

572
00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:37,020
so making sure it actually has a drain of half and it can drain to an area that's not going to

573
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:45,940
pond, so it would take some effort from the people to actually check and make sure that

574
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:51,440
the screens are in place properly and the leaves aren't clogging the drain spouts.

575
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,620
Okay, all right.

576
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,820
Well, thank you so much again both of you for being here and for all your work.

577
00:53:57,900 --> 00:53:59,020
We really appreciate the information.

578
00:53:59,220 --> 00:54:00,120
Oh, we,

579
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:04,360
Council Members, see you very.

580
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:18,770
I wanted to know on the last page where it had all the people that that you could contact or any of them where it says guidelines aren't any of them tutorials on how to set up your rain barrels.

581
00:54:18,810 --> 00:54:23,390
Yes. Is it the last one? I believe it's the county of San Diego one.

582
00:54:23,790 --> 00:54:25,110
The second to the last.

583
00:54:25,110 --> 00:54:28,930
Yes, second to last reference, the San Diego County.

584
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:35,190
And that's a tutorial of people to make their own out of a big trash can and things like that.

585
00:54:35,610 --> 00:54:46,890
Yeah, they actually, in this tutorial, say how you can get one for free by contacting some restaurants that maybe don't need a certain barrel.

586
00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:53,830
And then it actually shows how to modify your downspout from your rain gutter to install it.

587
00:54:53,830 --> 00:54:58,050
All right. Thank you. Thank you for showing up this is my kind of thing. I love it.

588
00:54:58,330 --> 00:55:00,250
Thank you council members. Thank you so much.

589
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:08,700
Okay, next we're gonna move on to item number eight consent calendar

590
00:55:09,340 --> 00:55:16,040
We don't have any public comments on the consent. So we're I'd like to entertain a motion to approve consent calendar items

591
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,840
Number eight eight through eight F

592
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,360
motion forward

593
00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:59,210
I would like to announce that there's a strike through version of the ordinance that has been provided as last minute agenda information and that has been made available to the members of the City Council and of the public parks and our Director Bullock will give the presentation.

594
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,000
Good evening, new mayor, members of the City Council.

595
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:07,120
I'm Shannon Bullock, Parks and Recreation Director, and I'm here tonight introducing

596
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,620
an ordinance modifying section 12.56 and 12.60, the Imperial Beach Municipal Code, as it

597
00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:14,500
relates to organized use of city parks and beaches.

598
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,720
A little bit of background.

599
00:56:18,020 --> 00:56:22,780
The current Imperial Beach Municipal Code, 12.56 and 12.60, does not allow for organized use

600
00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:25,280
in parks and beach spaces without approval from the City Council.

601
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,360
Some of the issues with this is that the current code does not provide an opportunity for

602
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,320
permitted use, permitted organized use, the code does not allow for staff to issue permits

603
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,720
and collect fees when people call us for organized park use.

604
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,940
The code does not standardize, have a standardization between the organized beach and park use.

605
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,380
Organizers teaching classes and programs are confused on current rules and regulations when

606
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:50,000
they call and we say we don't issue permits but we have certain guidelines.

607
00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:54,380
And then the Parks Recreation Community Services staff is unable to have a specific application

608
00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:58,680
to include guidelines, hours of use, and to designate specific park spaces for organized use.

609
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:18,800
The proposed changes, modifications to Imperial Beach Municipal 12.56 and 12.60 include provisions for organized use of beach and public park space, requiring a permit for regularly scheduled or reoccurring gatherings involving 15 or more participants and other similar group activities unless otherwise designated by the city.

610
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:34,520
Resolution 2023-91 would designate the city manager with the authority to issue park use permits and allow process for program or class organizers an opportunity to apply for permit and then staff would create an application process and designate park and beach basis for organized use.

611
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:46,600
The recommendation is introduce ordinance 2023-1238 as amended by title only waving the full rating of the ordinance and setting adoption from the next regular meeting.

612
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,860
And adopt resolution 2023-91.

613
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,900
Designate the city manager with authority to issue park use permits.

614
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,500
There are options of introducing the ordinance and amending the codes.

615
00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:02,160
And adopt the resolution 2023-91 as a city manager with authority to issue park use permits.

616
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:07,360
Continuation of the item with direction provided to the city manager and reject the proposed ordinance resolution.

617
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,660
And then I'm here for any questions.

618
00:58:11,310 --> 00:58:13,050
Thank you very much director Bullock.

619
00:58:13,390 --> 00:58:15,210
We don't have any public comments on this item.

620
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:19,070
So we're going to turn it over to Council's varying with Council Member Fitt.

621
00:58:19,970 --> 00:58:20,430
Thanks, Mayor.

622
00:58:20,530 --> 00:58:20,830
Thanks, Chair.

623
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:21,530
I appreciate that.

624
00:58:21,730 --> 00:58:22,970
I just have a real brief question.

625
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:28,490
So in the resolution 20, 23-91 says, designated in the City of Magic with authority to issue

626
00:58:28,490 --> 00:58:33,050
park use permits, can that authority be delegated to staff?

627
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:34,030
Yes, it can be.

628
00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:34,570
Okay.

629
00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:34,890
Good.

630
00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:39,410
I just wanted to make sure it's not that I don't have full faith in our City of Magic.

631
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:41,910
It was like, wow, that's a lot of paper coming across this desk.

632
00:58:42,370 --> 00:58:42,630
Thank you.

633
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,840
Any other council comments or questions?

634
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:51,900
So just for the record I wanted to clarify and you might have mentioned it briefly here.

635
00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:55,570
Excuse me.

636
00:58:58,270 --> 00:59:02,450
The, there was the event size, right, that the code 10.

637
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:06,610
So this doesn't, this ordinance does not apply to chapter 12.

638
00:59:08,250 --> 00:59:09,990
33-010 from the Municipal Code.

639
00:59:10,030 --> 00:59:11,330
I'll talk about that in my next report.

640
00:59:11,710 --> 00:59:12,930
That's for 25 and over.

641
00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:13,710
This is for 50.

642
00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:15,670
So we'll make the mention for that one.

643
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:15,910
Yes.

644
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:16,230
Okay.

645
00:59:16,450 --> 00:59:16,690
Perfect.

646
00:59:17,050 --> 00:59:18,330
Because there is some relation on that.

647
00:59:18,770 --> 00:59:18,930
Okay.

648
00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:22,090
So I have no additional comments on this.

649
00:59:22,490 --> 00:59:26,210
So I'd like to entertain a motion to approve.

650
00:59:26,850 --> 00:59:29,490
Ordinance number 2023-1238.

651
00:59:30,070 --> 00:59:33,830
With submitted changes by title only waiving the full reading of the ordinance.

652
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:37,370
And to set this matter for the second reading and adoption at the November 15th,

653
00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:39,450
2023 regular city council meeting.

654
00:59:39,930 --> 00:59:41,090
I can't move the motion.

655
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:47,210
Just to clarify the motion is to introduce the ordinance and then we will, the council can approve it.

656
00:59:47,730 --> 00:59:48,330
I did say that.

657
00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:51,830
Oh, my bad.

658
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Is there a second?

659
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,060
I'll second that, Mayor.

660
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,220
Please vote.

661
01:00:26,860 --> 01:00:29,540
We're having some technical difficulties.

662
01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:37,430
Vote again, please. And let's see if not we'll go to roll call.

663
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,820
Everybody vote again. Okay, is it still on the fritz? Yes, let's do a roll call, please.

664
01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:55,220
Motion carried unanimously by the President.

665
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,860
Assistant City Clerk Malone will read the title of the ordinance.

666
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:06,680
Ordnance number 2023-1238, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Imperial Beach, California,

667
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:16,700
amending chapters 12.56 and 12.60 of the Imperial Beach Municipal Code related to organized use of city parks and beaches.

668
01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:21,100
Great, thank you very much.

669
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,200
Next we're going to move on to item 118, adoption of a policy for city support for special events.

670
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:31,540
I'd like to also announce that there's a strike-through version of the resolution and it's been provided as

671
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:36,580
a last-minute agenda information item and that has been made available to the City Council and members of the public.

672
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,140
Well, hello again. I am here.

673
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,320
There's also a resolution. Yeah.

674
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,400
My apologies, I

675
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:55,560
we had one more item in the previous item. So let's take one step back. We're going to go to

676
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,000
to adopt the resolution 2023-91,

677
01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:01,140
designating the city manager with authority

678
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:03,480
to issue park use permits.

679
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:05,640
And that is related to the ordinance

680
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,820
that we just voted on.

681
01:02:07,060 --> 01:02:08,500
I move the motion forward, please.

682
01:02:09,180 --> 01:02:09,800
I'll second.

683
01:02:10,220 --> 01:02:10,760
Please vote.

684
01:02:24,780 --> 01:02:24,920
Great.

685
01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:27,340
Motion carried unanimously by those present.

686
01:02:28,060 --> 01:02:31,080
Perfect. Now we'll move over to item 11A,

687
01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:33,400
Director Bullock, we'll give the report.

688
01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:40,650
Good evening mayor and members of the city council again.

689
01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:42,950
This is for the policy for city support

690
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:49,230
of special events. A little background at the April 5th, 2023 City Council meeting. We brought

691
01:02:49,230 --> 01:02:54,250
forth discussion related special events policies, procedures and fee waivers. At the same meeting,

692
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:58,210
the City Council approved a moratorium on fee waivers until the master fee schedule was updated

693
01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:04,590
and a special event fee waiver and event sponsorship policy was approved. Some of the issues that

694
01:03:04,590 --> 01:03:09,390
it was discussed about April 5th and I'll bring it now with the current special event policies.

695
01:03:09,390 --> 01:03:13,890
The current policy does not include policies and procedures for fee waivers, fee reductions, and sponsorships.

696
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:19,470
There's no standard application that event organizers can use to request fee waivers, fee reductions, or sponsorships.

697
01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:23,550
It does not currently provide procedure for event organizers to report back to the city council.

698
01:03:24,250 --> 01:03:26,290
How funds were awarded were spent.

699
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:31,810
And the current fiscal year 2324 budget does not include an approved amount for special events sponsorship.

700
01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:37,440
Staff has drafted a special event fee waiver on sponsorship policy.

701
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Some of the proposed changes include the applicant's or event organizers must have a documented

702
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,100
federal 501C3 status or similar non-profit status, preference to fund events with greater

703
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,420
community and public benefits.

704
01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:53,160
Applications must be submitted at least 90 days prior to the event for fee waivers, but

705
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,640
not more than six months prior to the event.

706
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:58,640
An applicant's receiving special event support would be required to provide a report to City

707
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,920
Council meeting within 60 days.

708
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:05,980
Staff has also drafted a new policy for special events.

709
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,960
We are repelling the, proposing to repeal the current policy and create a new special

710
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,520
event and administrative policy and procedures.

711
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,680
That policy would allow the city manager or designate along with the special event committee

712
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,820
comprised of city staff to approve smaller scale events with minimal community impacts such

713
01:04:20,820 --> 01:04:21,180
as weddings.

714
01:04:21,980 --> 01:04:25,820
The city council would have approval authority over larger scale events including those

715
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:29,820
impure plaza, dunes park, beach and those recarcity closures and that's currently the policy.

716
01:04:29,820 --> 01:04:33,040
that does not include the block parties which we would move to staff.

717
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:39,580
The recommendation, it is recommended that the city council consider adopting and approving

718
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:47,300
amended resolution 2023-92, repealing resolution 2021-27, adopting a policy for cities

719
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:50,700
of sports special events, and adopting the special event and administrative policy.

720
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,680
The options are adopt the amended resolution, modify anything contained in the a-dash draft

721
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,240
policies, and then adopt the revised policy or do not adopt a resolution and provide direction

722
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,260
to the City of Manager, and I'm available for any questions.

723
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,580
Thank you very much.

724
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,420
We don't have any public comments on this item, so we're going to turn it over to Council

725
01:05:08,420 --> 01:05:09,360
comments or questions.

726
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,080
Council member Fisher.

727
01:05:15,870 --> 01:05:17,370
I thought we'd have a lot more questions, sorry.

728
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:22,390
You know, I'm glad to see this come for, because I think we've wanted to this over the last

729
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:27,990
few months and over the last couple of years, we've made some changes to our current policy.

730
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:33,430
But I think this is good, because we have so many of our nonprofits in town who do a really

731
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:39,370
good job of supporting, you know, if you look at the event last Friday, there was no way

732
01:05:39,370 --> 01:05:43,010
that the person who wanted to have this event could ever have done what they needed to

733
01:05:43,010 --> 01:05:48,210
without the support of the city and with the community partners involved. And I think

734
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:54,050
this is what we've talked about for waivers is having that these groups come to us and looking

735
01:05:54,050 --> 01:05:59,270
just for some, again, it's not really a handout because they all give back to the community.

736
01:05:59,270 --> 01:06:05,910
I mean, it's just really something that kind of acknowledges their hard work, but also gives them a little break that they might put the funds that they have somewhere else.

737
01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:11,830
I'm also grateful to see that we'll be, no, what we're dealing, that talks about the budget amendment.

738
01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:13,730
Is that part of this one already or is that coming?

739
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:16,130
That would be a part of this.

740
01:06:16,430 --> 01:06:27,550
Okay, so the budget amendment that allows us to have $10,000 to help some community events as well, I think it is well wise for us to look at.

741
01:06:27,550 --> 01:06:34,370
And perhaps in the future have a little bit different criteria because I think that as we go forward we'll have more and more of these

742
01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:41,230
Groups that want to come out and do events and so the needs will be greater and you know to have a bigger overview of

743
01:06:41,230 --> 01:06:48,250
How the positive effects of these events help help our residents enjoy it. Like I said, we've seen it over the past

744
01:06:49,570 --> 01:06:53,710
year whether it's you know roller skating by the beach

745
01:06:53,710 --> 01:07:23,670
each a couple of car shows and trick or treat or whatever it might be down that I think it's good for us and so I'm thankful to Shannon, your staff for bringing this forward into helping us get to a point where we can help give back to our community nonprofits who do so much for our community, I don't think we could go on much longer with having them not able to get some feed ways and the fee waiver is only for application fees and not for

746
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:27,670
staff time correct. It wouldn't be for application but any of the

747
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:32,610
in kind and some of the decrease so you guys would decide we're still developing the application

748
01:07:32,610 --> 01:07:37,030
and so we can you take input as we're working on that. Okay now it was that will the application

749
01:07:37,030 --> 01:07:42,650
need to come back for council for approval or is that just kind of in in house if you will?

750
01:07:42,770 --> 01:07:46,350
It would come back so anyone that's asking for a fee waiver fee reduction or sponsorship

751
01:07:46,990 --> 01:07:50,770
along with the special event application they would fill out a separate a separate form probably

752
01:07:50,770 --> 01:07:54,030
just a one-page form and that way we would have all the details so we can bring it to

753
01:07:54,030 --> 01:07:54,910
council at the same time.

754
01:07:55,330 --> 01:07:55,550
Okay.

755
01:07:56,190 --> 01:07:59,830
And then, you know, the second part of that would be that they'd come back to council

756
01:07:59,830 --> 01:08:01,330
with the report to us.

757
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:04,590
I don't know how the report should be like to acknowledge those who have helped in our

758
01:08:04,590 --> 01:08:06,570
community so that's all right.

759
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:06,970
Thank you.

760
01:08:07,330 --> 01:08:07,610
Thanks.

761
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:08,890
Thank you, Council Member Fisher.

762
01:08:09,290 --> 01:08:10,230
Any other comments, questions?

763
01:08:10,830 --> 01:08:11,370
Council Member McKay.

764
01:08:11,870 --> 01:08:12,550
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

765
01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:18,830
I just wanted to thank staff, specifically this bullet for all the hard work on creating a

766
01:08:18,830 --> 01:08:19,950
sense of continuity.

767
01:08:19,950 --> 01:08:26,890
I know in the past, before I got on council, there was always kind of these enigma and questions about, well,

768
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:28,890
how come they got to do this and we didn't get to do that?

769
01:08:29,070 --> 01:08:30,750
I think this is a big step forward.

770
01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:32,970
It puts guidelines for everybody.

771
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:44,070
Everybody has the same rules, it's in writing, and so we won't have that confusion or potential hurt feelings when somebody thinks they're not getting the same treatment.

772
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:46,370
So I appreciate very much all your effort on this.

773
01:08:46,850 --> 01:08:47,070
Thank you.

774
01:08:48,650 --> 01:08:50,630
Any other comments, questions?

775
01:08:51,250 --> 01:08:54,430
In addition to what's been said, I think that's a really great point.

776
01:08:54,610 --> 01:08:58,950
I think that you guys have done such a great job in collaborating and uplifting some of

777
01:08:58,950 --> 01:09:01,210
our local groups that have enhanced our events.

778
01:09:01,270 --> 01:09:03,110
We saw that on last Friday.

779
01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:09,850
But I think it also helps us put some guardrails and just some rules of engagement, right?

780
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:12,170
Especially as it comes to nonprofits.

781
01:09:12,570 --> 01:09:14,950
We want to make sure that we support our local nonprofits.

782
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:20,750
profits, but we also want to make sure that they are serving in Pearl Beach, that their

783
01:09:20,750 --> 01:09:28,710
primary role is to serve our residents, and that in exchange for getting a waiver

784
01:09:28,710 --> 01:09:34,430
or something like that, that we have a set of criteria, which is what we're asking.

785
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:41,630
It's not anything out of the ordinary compared to other cities, but it is for a reason that

786
01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:47,070
that we are granting a specific waiver or anything like your collaboration in this case.

787
01:09:47,930 --> 01:10:00,100
So with that, I'm going to entertain a motion to approve resolution number 2023-92 with

788
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:01,100
a submitted changes.

789
01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:03,440
I'll move that motion forward, Mayor.

790
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Is there a second?

791
01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:07,040
Yeah, a fish or second?

792
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:07,880
Please vote.

793
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,320
Motion carried unanimously by those present.

794
01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:25,220
thank you very much.

795
01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:37,350
So next, we don't have any items under 12. Any items, future request, agenda items, council member Fisher.

796
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:42,480
Oh, Meredith.

797
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:47,460
Council member McKay, I'm so sorry. Oh my gosh. I'm switching identities here.

798
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:53,880
We don't look that much alike. We both have glasses on. He's got a tie. I don't have a tie. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

799
01:10:53,880 --> 01:11:07,700
I did want to actually, on a more serious note, I do want to request that the city look at creating a proclamation of community service acknowledgment for Mr. Don Spicer who recently passed.

800
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:21,400
He was a very important person in our community and gave years and years of his life and his energy for promoting Imperial Beach Little League and sports in general here in town.

801
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:29,300
And so I would like to, I don't know if it's a motion, but I would like to request that we look at in the near future, creating

802
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:38,460
Proclamation and or possibly even a street sign in the little league sports park area to acknowledge his contributions.

803
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,300
I'll support that if.

804
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,680
Yeah, I would second that for sure.

805
01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:50,900
We'll bring that back for an agenda, and if you can reach out to the family.

806
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:56,340
I have already reached out to the family and they're very thankful and

807
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,500
gracious to allow us to do that.

808
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,920
I would suggest maybe we look at opening day for the league, which I believe is in March next year.

809
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,800
So it gives us a little bit of time to generate the document and signage if we choose to do so.

810
01:12:12,220 --> 01:12:12,520
Great.

811
01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:13,080
Thank you.

812
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:13,400
Thank you.

813
01:12:13,660 --> 01:12:14,880
Any anybody else?

814
01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:18,650
All right.

815
01:12:19,070 --> 01:12:20,990
Well, that concludes our council meeting.

816
01:12:21,230 --> 01:12:22,110
This meeting is adjourned.

817
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:22,470
Thank you.