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Good evening everyone. At this time I'm going to have

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the city attorney report out on our closed session. Thank

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you Mayor. The Council Met in closed session on item

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3A as listed as the closed session agenda. Direction was

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given no reportable action was taken. Thank you. Thank you.

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And with that I'm going to close the closed session.

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This is the regular city Council meeting of the City

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of Imperial Beach for August 19th, 2026. As it is

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my tradition, I'm going to announce that the City Council

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also sits as the Imperial Beach Planning Commission, Public Finance

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Authority, Housing Authority, and the Imperial Beach Redevelopment Agency Successor

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Agency. At this time I'll ask City Clerk Kelly to

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please take a role. Council Member Nakawase. Not going to

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say President. Council Member Labor Gonzalez. Labor Gonzalez here. Mayor

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Pro Tem Fisher. Fisher President. Mayor McKay. Mayor McKay is

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present. Council Member Seaberry is absent. Thank you for that

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roll call. At this time we're going to engage in

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the Pledge of Allegiance. We have a very special guest

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here this morning. Excuse me this morning this afternoon this

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evening. This will be a young lady named Maya. She

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participated in the sun in Sea Festival as one of

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the Sandcastle Building teams for the children. And she's going

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to lead us in our Pledge of Allegiance today. So

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take it away Maya. Our pleasure allegiance. To the flag

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of United States of America. To the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with sliverty and

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justice for all. Wonderful. Thank you so much Maya. You

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did a wonderful job. Alright, we're now going to move

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on to reports on assignments from our council members, and

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we'll start at my left with Council Member Nakawasay. Thank

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you Mayor on August 6. I had the great pleasure

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of attending Crest, which was an opening person new housing

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here in the district. It was really wonderful to see.

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It was a beautiful property. So hopefully we can get

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some tenants in there moved in and enjoying the property.

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I had the great pleasure of going to Stopping by

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HessFest and the Frogmen fundraiser over at the plank, which

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is really cool. I got a brand new challenge coin,

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which I thoroughly enjoyed. Um, and then yesterday I actually

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got to meet with the acting CEO of for San

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You Community Power. Jack Clark. I actually want to thank

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Lynn who gave me this idea was to ask for

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basically some data based on how much we're using inutilities

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on spikes when we have the sewage issue and everything

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because a solution shouldn't also call an adjacent problem. And

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so we had a long conversation about that. And so

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I'm helping he gives us that so we can just

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kind of see those patterns and hopefully ask to advocate

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for some kind of incentives for the folks using more

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utilities. Cause I know that I am during those times.

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as a reference point or anything like that. So it

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was a great meeting. And then, um, next Saturday, if

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I can have this flyer pulled up, I don't know

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if it is. Um, we are hosting the next -

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gen workshop. So really want to encourage any youth in

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our community. You don't have to be 14 and up.

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like to see you there. Um, again, I want to

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make sure that youth in our community has the tools

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to be successful. So we're going to have some wonderful

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speakers. Again, they're going to learn how to interview, how

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to network and everything. And one thing again, I think

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that's always important is walking away with something tangible. And

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so really want to make sure they have a headshot.

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So you guys can register by scanning the QR code.

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It's posted on our social media and everything. But would

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really love to see some more people register intent. And

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that's it. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you. We'll move

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on to Council Member Labor Gonzalez, please. Uh, thank you

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Mayor. Um, I don't have anything to report for committees,

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but I just wanted to report on, um, an issue

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that happened on Saturday the 15th. So initially I received,

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um, confirmation from our amazing city manager, Tyler Foltz, that

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there was a water leak at 1348 Holly Avenue. This

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was a little after 10 a. m. I, I was

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in the process of deciding what I was going to

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do with the rest of my day. So I'm like,

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let me go drive over there and be a sidewalk

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superintendent. So I showed up. And initially our public works,

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amazing team was there already. Um, Calam and Calan's sub,

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which is Montejo Backho Service. So there was already a

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group of residents, you know, kind of congregating and asking

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questions. So I connected with public works. They had explained

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already that they were concerned about the, um, drains because

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there was a lot of mud and smug and muck.

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had showed up with their big shop vac, their back,

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um, so I connected with some of the residents, let

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them know roughly the time, you know, the time range

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where they will be out of water. So initially I

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had quoted them five to six hours. Um, prior to

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leaving, I connected with, um, the owner of Montejo Backho

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service, Andres gave him my contact info and said to

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kind of give me an update. Literally 130 ish, the

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water was back on. They were backfilling. And the whole

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situation could have been extremely more negative, but it just

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really made me proud to know that we have people

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that work on a Saturday diligently and everyone communicated efficiently.

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And the disruption in water service to the residents in

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that area was limited. And it was, it really made

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me feel good. So, um, thank you Tyler for being

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communicating so efficiently. And thank you to public works. Cal

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Am and Monteco Baco service. That's all I got. All

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right. Thank you for that update. We'll move on to

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Mayor Protem Fisher. Thanks Mayor. No, no real big official

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stuff. Um, other than at the end of July, uh,

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SDG, and he filed some paperwork with the state, um,

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it's a very technical stuff. Uh, regarding San Diego Committee

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power, but the net result is that power, um, satin

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can be powerful for transmission and generation as its lowest

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it's ever been, uh, for residents. And so the average,

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uh, resident with the regular service is about seven to

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eight percent saving the SUGNE. Now with rates, they're always

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fluctuating. Um, but the staff doesn't think that there's going

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to be any more fluctuations for us here. So there

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should be good savings on the horizon. Uh, that's very

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steady again. All it depends on what SDG need does.

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So, uh, on the other thing, uh, last Friday music

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in the park, uh, group PRIMO was fantastic. Lots of

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people out there. Great, great time for those who showed

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up. Lots of dancing going on. And so, uh, this

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week we have an 80s cover band. So invite everybody

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to come out there at 6 p. m. Veteranspark. Bring,

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bring your pillows, your, uh, chairs, whatever you have to

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do. If you get the early, may want to sit

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in the shade. If you get there later, sit in

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the sun. They get, they got a little bit cool

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out there. So anyways, that's all you got, Mayor. Great.

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Thank you for that update. I did have a few

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things to report. Um, August 6th, I attended the Metro

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Wastewater JPA meeting. The only real announcement out of there

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is we did get, uh, all the participating agencies to

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sign off on the, uh, Sarah, which is the second

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amendment to the, uh, agreement. And so the new billing,

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uh, is in place now. Um, there were some concern

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that if all the agencies didn't pass it within, uh,

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certain timeline, we might have some staggered billing, which is

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never good. Um, then on August 8th, I did attend,

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uh, the Hest Fest here in Imperial Beach. I think

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it was very well attended. It seemed like there was

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a really good turnout. Um, both locals and, uh, and

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folks in the region, uh, October, excuse me, August 11th.

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I had my monthly, actually quarterly meeting with the Lieutenant

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Galvet, the Sheriff's Department. You've probably seen in the local

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media some reporting on the Little League situation. I want

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to thank the Sheriff's Department for doing their due diligence

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and participating with that investigation and bringing it to, uh,

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somewhat of a conclusion. Uh, then on, uh, August 15th,

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our local grocery outlet had its 80th, actually their ninth

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anniversary here in town, but the company is their 80th

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anniversary. So we did have a ribbon cutting, um, and

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then yesterday I spoke at both the City Council Meetings

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for, uh, City of Coronado and also for the City

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of Chula Vista, uh, a couple of those items will

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be coming up, uh, on our agenda later this evening.

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So we'll, we'll talk a little bit more about them

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then. All right. At this time I'm going to hand

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it over to, uh, City Manager Folts versus some communications

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from city staff. Thank you Mayor. Staff's requesting to, uh,

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that the Council move item 15C before items A and

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B. It's our understanding that the Mayor of TIL Vista

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may be coming to comment on items A and B.

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So again, stash requesting to consider the e - bike

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item before those items. All right. We certainly happy to

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provide that professional courtesy to the Mayor of Chelovista. So

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we will in fact move item, uh, 15c ahead of

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15a and 15b. I see we have an announcement from

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fire chief French. Is that correct? Honorable Mayor City

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Council. Um, I have a few, um, employees. I want

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to introduce and then a few announcements after that. So,

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um, I'm going to introduce two, one started on, um.

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July 27th. And he's so he's new to the fire

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department. And then the other one started on May 25th

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as a part - time with Marine Safety Division of

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the Fire Rescue Department. And we hired him full time

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on January of 26. So he hasn't had a chance

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to be up here. So the first one I'd like

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to bring up is Ian Urskine. From our marine safety

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division. Um, and, you know, he's doing a great job.

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He's had a couple of CPRs he's done with the

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fire department down there in the beach area. So real

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hard worker. So like to welcome you. Thank you. Welcome.

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Go ahead and have, yeah. Introduce yourself. You and your

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skin. I was a seasonal here at the Imperial Beach.

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I started May of last year. And then promoted to

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full time in January of this year. And joined every

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minute of it. And just want to say thanks for

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having me. Great. Thank you. Welcome to the team. All

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right. Second one I'd like to bring up is Kyle

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Barone. Um, he started with us on July 27th. And

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he's going to be starting Heartland's fire academy next Monday,

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the 24th. And he'll be finished with that on November

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5th. So he's got a couple months of hard work

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to go through. So. Come on. Hello. Cover only

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parasitionary fire paramedic. Grew up here in San Diego. Carl's

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bed mainly. The work in San Diego most of my

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career is in the city. Worked to the cigar role

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paramedical children's defire where I started working some ambulance just

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here at Vista at Imperial Beach. And been employed here

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since July. Looking forward to a long period with the

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privilege fire department. Super welcome you into the team and

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thank you for all your hard work so far. Thank

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you. Get ready for the Academy. All right. I know

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Council has been waiting for this one for a long

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time. So, um, on, uh, on October 3rd, um, we're

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going to be doing our, um, new engine push in

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ceremony. Um, some of the details and it's going to

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be along with the pancake breakfast. So some of the

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details and times are still in the works, but we

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want you to save that date. Um, the next one's

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going to be our, uh, open house. It's going to

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be Saturday, October 17th. From 10 a. m. to 2

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p. m. And that's always a fun event for the

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community. And we love seeing you guys out there. Great.

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Thank you. Yeah. And as part of the open house,

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we're going to have the blood bank. We're going to

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have the blood bank. And this can be our second

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annual, uh, blood drive that we've done. We didn't have

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mount here last year, but they were here the previous

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year. So, um, they're going to be here for 930

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to 230. So they're going to be here half hour

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on each side of our blood drive. And as, um,

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if you get blood, you can, um, get a t

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- shirt and it's going to have the thing from

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the Adams family on their t - shirt. So. Great.

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Looking forward to everybody signing up and giving some blood.

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Great. Thank you for those announcements and thank you for

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getting that, uh, fire engine ready to go. All right.

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comment section. Looking for some public speaker cards. Let me

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announce before we take speakers in house that we did

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receive correspondence from truth. And it was a made available

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to the Council members and also, uh, the folks in

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the auditorium here in the back. I have one public

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speaker card. It's Mr. Brandon Claypool. So Brandon, if you

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can come forward and you're three minutes start now, I

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just wanted to say thank you for welcoming me to

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Imperial Beach. I love the city. The Sheriff's Department does

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a really good job of keeping it safe. I've noticed

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it. It's sad that the beach is closed. But hey,

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you got a lot of good businesses that need to

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be filled with customers. And so I'm just pleased the

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way I progressed. It's a very safe city. You care

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about the citizens here. Uh, it's nice to see that

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like people out walking around. They're in parks, you know,

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it's like, it's really nice what you've done with parks

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and recreation. And you got people out everywhere. It's, it's,

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it's really, it's a really good community that like stands

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up for each other. And I, you can see it.

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This is a great city. And you guys have done

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a really good job. I just wanted to thank you.

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Thanks. Well, thank you very much for those comments and

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we appreciate the, uh, the feedback. All right. I guess

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we're going to go to the remote participation at this

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point. City Clerk Kelly, please. Announce the first speaker. Okay.

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Mr. Mayor, we have one raised hand and it's a

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caller with the last two numbers of three one. Please

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unmute yourself and begin. You have three minutes.

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So that is proof that even when things go awry.

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Oh, you don't want me to start now. Uh, everyone

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collapse it off even the curse. Um, earlier today, I

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went to email a few comments and received an automated

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city email return saying you guys no longer at that

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email comments and that everyone must use the e -

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commit form. I don't mind that as an option, but

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as a mandate, They also do not allow pictures to

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be uploaded, which was my entire point of emailing my

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comment. So I give a trying to roll III, but

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give more of a snarky look of emojis to that

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option. That being said, uh, I emailed my comments only

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because I've been married. Turns out okay. Cause Hey, the

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brush covered bike racket. The bay has nothing cleared for

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you. It's a city success. So my new public works

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idea is if you pour a little concrete square on

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that bike rack, dry brush should be less of an

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issue. I don't know if there's environmental rotate, but Hey,

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an idea. The other issue I brought up was a

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legal finding about union derived conflicts of interest on city

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council. Um, it actually came from former corrupt supervisor underneath

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the fletcher in his corrupt wise Lorena Gonzalez head of

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the union. The Majority Council legally investigated the issue provided

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an analysis. And I just think that's something that could

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be looked at further in the future. Because anyone who

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has a conflict of interest should never be involved in

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the decision making process. And a girl beat a certainly

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suffered from that in the past. I really think that

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union paid for phone should also be bad from the

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diets because it opens that door to conflict. Getting even

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more political, I also notice that the progressive narrative seems

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to be the unsounded line that Mitch has no plan

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for Mexico sewage. And it's like, really they're going to

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ignore the IV plan that he helped draft last year

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that was chocks was tangible solutions that the former corrupts

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democratic entity. Man, well I pulled them again a vote

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it against. So question, what does grab your labor drunker,

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conshaus breast at the table, other than socialism, bad attitude,

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beer and asleep at the wheel. Sorry, nobody wants curl

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to commie. Jose the ace puppet or Omar the law

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breaker. And obviously Matthew couldn't even get the endorsement from

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his own party enough said. Now let's give to something

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else better or not actually, sorry, quick APCD update. I

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did a public records request with a county and they

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claim that no communications exist with the company Ironti who

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provided the unqualified junk air purifiers. APCDN men will it

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would not confirm whether or not the new air purifiers

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are. But actually purify anything or not. And we'll also

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pick Laura Wilkinson to be on a committee, even though

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she's received over 4, 100 dollars in campaign donations from

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her. Totally corrupt as always. It was a purely political

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meeting. We're honestly the best part with just me calling

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out George at Gomez for Stuffner's face on camera. Oh,

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that's why I started meeting life in a nutshell. All

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right. Let's bring on John McCann. I want to hear

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him. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Moving on,

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um, do we have any other callers? That was the

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only one. That was the final caller, Mr. All right.

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Thank you. Um, I guess we're going to move on

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to item 11, which is presentations. And as was

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mentioned earlier, we're going to re shuffle the order. We're

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going to take item 15C. Sorry.

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I apologize. I skipped over the consent calendar. Silly me.

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All right. We're going to move on to consent calendar.

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Do we have any public speaker slips for the consent

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items? No, Mr. Mean. None. Uh, do we have any

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remote participation requests. No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Any city

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council discussion on the consent calendar. All right. Can I

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get a motion and a second, please? Fisher. Proves a

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motion. In a second. Thank you. Please vote.

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Motion carried unanimously by those present. All right. Now we're

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going to move on to ordinances and first readings. We

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have none this evening. And then we're going to move

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to public hearings. I'm going to open the first public

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hearing on item 14a, which is the Imperial, excuse me,

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Imperial Beach Forum Sports Bar and Grill seeking approval to

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allow live entertainment within the existing restaurant located at 1079

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Sea Coast Drive. And a California Environmental Quality Act categorical

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exception 0600 - 20. City Planner Arturo. Excuse me, or

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twonow will present this item. Thank you. Good evening, Honra

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Mayor Council members. My name is Arturo Ortuno, City Planner

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with the Commuter Development Department. I will be presenting item

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14A this evening, which is a request for a conditional

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use permit for I. ......... live entertainment at the existing

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restaurant. The Project Site is located at 1079 Sea Coast

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Drive in a zoned CMU2 or CCOS Commercial and Mixed

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Use. The applicant is proposing to operate live entertainment at

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the existing restaurant location. Under the CMU2 zoning regulations, a

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restaurant with live entertainment is permitted with an approval of

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a conditioner use permit by the City Council. The project

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site is located in the western portion of the city

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at the northeast corner of CCOSIDIVE and Imperial Beach Boulevard.

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The surrounding area consists primarily of residential uses, including multifamily

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development to the north, west, and south in a single

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- family residence to the east. The site contains an

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approximately 2, 200 square foot restaurant, approximately 2, 000 square

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feet of cover patio areas. And eight existing parking spaces.

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The applicant is not proposing any changes to the existing

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footprint. Landscaping, or parking. Staff would like to note that

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there is a typo arrow in the staff report regarding

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the square footage of the restaurant and patio areas. The

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figures included in the staff report were taken from a

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previous permit and do not reflect the existing conditions of

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the site. The applicant is proposing to operate live entertainment

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within the eastern patio area adjacent to the parking lot.

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As shown on the slide. The patio is enclosed by

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a 6 foot high perimeter wall. The wall consists of

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a 4 foot concrete missionary wall with an additional 2

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feet of tempered glass screening. And the patio is covered

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by a solid roof structure. The areas proposed for live

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entertainment is located at JSON to the eastern entrance of

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the restaurant's dining area shown in yellow on the floor

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plan. The proposed entertainment would include amplified music, trivia, bingo,

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and acoustic performances. If the condition used permitters to approved,

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the applicant is also required to obtain and maintain all

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applicable licenses and permits, including those required by the California

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Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control. Pursuant to ABC license requirements,

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live entertainment shall be limited to the hours of 10

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a. m. to 10 p. m. seven days a week.

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With the exception of Monday through Thursday, these hours are

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generally consistent with the restaurant's existing hours of operation and

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with other approved live entertainment uses in the city. This

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light shows a southeast and northeast corners of the patio,

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including the existing 6 - foot perimeter wall and covered

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structure. As part of the proposed operation, the patio will

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be equipped with noise decibel monitors to help monitors sound

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levels. In addition, speakers used for live entertainment will be

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directed toward the restaurant building and angle downward to hit

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minimize noise impacts on surrounding properties. This slide shows the

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entrance that the patio from the parking lot, as well

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as a northern elevation of the patio. The northern elevation

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provides an additional physical barrier between the proposed entertainment area

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and the multifamily residential use to the north. Staff recommends

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that City Council conducted public hearing and adopt resolution number

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2026 - 084. This concludes my presentation and I'm available

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for any questions. And we also have the owner for

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I. B. forum here, Matt Morgan, also to answer any

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questions. Great, thank you for the presentation. Um, we're going

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to go to public speakers. Um, I do have one

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public speaker request card. Mr. Martin Mattis, please approach the

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DIAS. Or the podium.

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Good evening, Honorable Mayor. Distinguished Council and hardest working staff

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in San Diego County. For the record on Martin Mattis,

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owner of the Oplank N, long time I. B. resident

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and retired Navy Command Master Chief. In 1992, Morgan family

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purchased i. i. before. 1993, me and Matthew started going

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there. Just kidding. No, in 1994 I moved a, I

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moved from Coronado down to Imperial Beach. And I went

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down to the forum all the time. Lots has changed,

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but one thing has stayed consistent along Sea Coast. The

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Europlank in and IBorum have been the cornerstones of C

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Coast Drive. Matt reached out to me asking how to

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get live music two years ago. Uh, we set up

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a meeting with mayor Aguiri. And worked with Matt on

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getting the ball rolling to get live music going. It's

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been two years. Several ABC visits, and now in front

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of this distinguished council. I support allowing music at the

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i.. Plank has music, my cat says music, Sammy's has

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music. I. B. forum needs to have music. In fact,

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I think my son - in - law is playing

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at Sammy's this weekend. There's a lot of history at

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the I. B. forum. I went there when it was

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a fishbowl. And now it's a premier spot to go

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eat. I ate their lunch today. So, thank you for

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the time. And please vote yes on allowing music at

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the I. B. forum. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for

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your comments. Do we have any remote participation on this

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item? Yes, Mr. Mayor, and it is truth. Truth, please

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unmute yourself and begin. You have three minutes. You know,

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it's actually a literal porn. So it's on the south

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side of ISQUI. Southwest, so it's kind of interesting. It's

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a literal cornerstone on the other side. Um, so should

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you have music at every end, at every notch in

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IB? Yeah, sure, why not? The only hesitation would be,

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what are the neighbors think about it? Because you do

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have homes right there. And you do have the estuary

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right there. Some environmentalists may have an issue if the

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music is too loud right there at the estuary. I

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mean, I do like peace there. Uh, but I'm a

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little more concerned about the neighbors. As long as you

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have really set time that everyone agrees on of when

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you're not going to have music going and when you

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are, then as long as their consent, I don't see

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a problem with it. I think it sounds like a

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great idea to have just been another cool business in

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ID. Thank you. Thank you for those comments. I'm going

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to go ahead and close the public hearing now. Uh,

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City Council, would you like to speak? Um, Matthew, would

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you start, excuse me, Councilmember Labor Gonzalez? Uh, yes, thank

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you. Thank you, Mayor. Um, so. I'm going to try

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to remain as non - biased as possible. Um, so

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it's not necessarily, it is a cornerstone of the city,

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but the reason why myself and my wife enjoys. Being

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there so much, aside from the food, because we love

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the soup there. So we're always like, what's the soup

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of the day? But it's more along the lines of

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the individuals that work there because they give you that

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great feeling when you show up. And the locals that

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work there, um, the food's amazing. Um, and it's family

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owned. So we always talk about what we can do

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as a council to make businesses strive here in Imperial

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Beach because of the beaches being closed. They are definitely

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a place that people that come from out of town

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for sure wants to see because the service is amazing.

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The food is amazing. Um, I take pride in stating

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that my stiping gets spent. Throughout Imperial Beach. I'm not

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going to say how much gets spent there. But I'm

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in strong support of passing this. Thank you, Mayor. Thank

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you for those comments. Councilmember Nakasa. Thank you Mayor. Um,

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I had the great pleasure of working at a live

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00:34:27,419 --> 00:34:29,779
music joint for five and a half years. And so

471
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,659
we had also told the city at the time amplified

472
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,379
music and sound. And so just to dig a little

473
00:34:35,379 --> 00:34:37,459
deeper, are you guys planning to have some like acoustic

474
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:41,059
axe live bands? What are you guys expecting in regards

475
00:34:41,059 --> 00:34:45,888
to some of your live entertainment. Can you please perch

476
00:34:45,888 --> 00:34:52,175
the microphone? Thank you. Um, iBorm. Happy to say that

477
00:34:52,215 --> 00:34:54,335
we've been there for 34 years now as of July.

478
00:34:55,874 --> 00:34:58,653
Repeat your question with the acoustic? Yeah, of course. Uh,

479
00:34:59,474 --> 00:35:03,613
the, the concept of amplified music amped sound more, more

480
00:35:03,714 --> 00:35:06,413
falls under that. So just wondering what kind of digging

481
00:35:06,453 --> 00:35:09,373
a little bit deeper into hopefully your ideas of live

482
00:35:09,554 --> 00:35:12,093
entertainment. Are you guys planning to have like acoustic sets

483
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:14,653
or like maybe full bands or middle of both? Not

484
00:35:14,653 --> 00:35:17,533
really pushing so much for live music, more for entertainment

485
00:35:18,594 --> 00:35:23,470
for, um, games. Bingo. Um, trivia night. A lot of

486
00:35:23,470 --> 00:35:25,310
times when we'll have a wedding, they want to know,

487
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:27,790
Hey, can we have someone play on the patio at

488
00:35:27,830 --> 00:35:31,319
spur of the moment. Are we going to be having

489
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,439
rock bands here? No. It's something where we just want

490
00:35:34,439 --> 00:35:36,439
to have the option if we want to play music

491
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,399
on a special weekend. We want to be able to

492
00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:45,436
do this. Very cool. Thank you. Yeah. Uh, the forums

493
00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:47,836
was my grandmother's favorite place to go eat dinner and

494
00:35:47,836 --> 00:35:51,756
lunch. Uh, I really, uh, like the Fred zucchini. I've

495
00:35:51,756 --> 00:35:54,716
heard you've been an incredible neighbor in regards to anything.

496
00:35:54,716 --> 00:35:57,676
So just continuing to be responsive and everything, everyone's really

497
00:35:57,676 --> 00:36:00,316
spoken high praises of you because that was the first

498
00:36:00,356 --> 00:36:04,056
thing that I brought up to staff was like, you

499
00:36:04,056 --> 00:36:05,756
know, the live music joint I worked at was right

500
00:36:05,796 --> 00:36:08,396
next to senior assisted living center, um, it was crazy

501
00:36:08,436 --> 00:36:10,396
that we even were there half the time because we

502
00:36:10,396 --> 00:36:14,156
did have rock bands and whatnot. But your reputation proceeds

503
00:36:14,156 --> 00:36:17,516
you, Matt. So my neighbors are my number one concern

504
00:36:17,516 --> 00:36:21,036
over there. Um, Mr. Miller that owns the apartments. I've

505
00:36:21,036 --> 00:36:23,807
been good friends with him for over 30 years. Almost

506
00:36:23,828 --> 00:36:27,007
everyone in the apartment complex house my cell phone number.

507
00:36:27,007 --> 00:36:28,747
All the neighbors around there have my cell number. And

508
00:36:28,747 --> 00:36:30,847
I tell them if the issue, if you hear something

509
00:36:30,868 --> 00:36:33,007
going on or if you see something, call me directly.

510
00:36:33,714 --> 00:36:35,693
I want to handle it. And I've been a hands

511
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:38,413
- on owner since day one. I took over this

512
00:36:38,453 --> 00:36:44,389
place. Thank you, sir. And I appreciate you. Thank you.

513
00:36:44,389 --> 00:36:47,669
Pretend fisher, please. Thank you, Matt. So I appreciate your

514
00:36:47,669 --> 00:36:49,829
honesty and how you conduct your business. I agree. It's

515
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:52,469
been a benefit to the city the way the form

516
00:36:52,509 --> 00:36:56,869
continues to redesign, redevelop, uh, it is a beautiful place

517
00:36:56,909 --> 00:36:59,749
for people to enjoy Imperial Beach. And I shared some

518
00:36:59,749 --> 00:37:02,949
concerns. I'm grateful for Council Member Nakawatose talking about what

519
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:05,109
type of music, you know, and type of things that

520
00:37:05,149 --> 00:37:08,549
would happen. We have seen, um, a few different places.

521
00:37:09,855 --> 00:37:11,914
I won't say abuse, but push it to the very

522
00:37:11,935 --> 00:37:14,074
limit when they have live permits. And I think you're

523
00:37:14,255 --> 00:37:16,774
seeing the same. You're aware of those as well, but

524
00:37:16,774 --> 00:37:18,694
it sounds like you have a great relationship with, uh,

525
00:37:19,135 --> 00:37:22,474
with those around you. And that's hard. Um, I noticed

526
00:37:22,474 --> 00:37:24,314
that there was a, uh, during the presentation talked about

527
00:37:24,314 --> 00:37:28,074
having decimal monitors on the patty, which I think will

528
00:37:28,074 --> 00:37:30,234
help key everything in. Obviously, you know, it's a conditional

529
00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:33,594
use permit, uh, the language in there that helps everybody

530
00:37:33,695 --> 00:37:37,094
keep each other on this. And, you know, provides, um,

531
00:37:37,695 --> 00:37:40,134
cure for any, any issues that may come up. And

532
00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:44,554
obviously you're a willing owner to help guide through any

533
00:37:44,554 --> 00:37:46,874
things that might have concerns in the committee. So again,

534
00:37:47,135 --> 00:37:48,714
I'm in favor and I want to thank you for

535
00:37:48,895 --> 00:37:52,154
being out here and representing the CD. Well, thank you.

536
00:37:52,154 --> 00:37:54,794
I appreciate that very much. Thank you. All right. Thank

537
00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:56,954
you for your questions. I don't have any questions directly

538
00:37:56,994 --> 00:38:00,634
for you. I do want to encourage you to continue

539
00:38:00,674 --> 00:38:04,634
to promote your business and, you know, help the city

540
00:38:04,655 --> 00:38:09,354
help you, uh, bring visitors to the city, um, even,

541
00:38:09,375 --> 00:38:12,294
even when our, maybe our beaches are closed sometimes, uh,

542
00:38:12,335 --> 00:38:15,114
most of the time, um, but our businesses are always

543
00:38:15,114 --> 00:38:18,154
open. So, uh, I appreciate you coming out this evening.

544
00:38:18,154 --> 00:38:20,234
And I appreciate you stepping forward. So. Thank you for

545
00:38:20,274 --> 00:38:24,062
taking the time. Yes, of course. Okay. So at this

546
00:38:24,062 --> 00:38:26,782
time I will look for a motion or a vote

547
00:38:27,363 --> 00:38:29,502
and a vote. A second. I'll make the motion mayor.

548
00:38:31,724 --> 00:38:34,991
Can I get a second? I'll second. You. Please vote.

549
00:38:37,405 --> 00:38:45,073
And please lock in your votes. Motion carried unanimously by

550
00:38:45,174 --> 00:38:50,603
those present seabury absent. And Mr. Mayor for clarification, that

551
00:38:50,603 --> 00:38:54,923
was for the adoption of Resolution number 2026 - 2026

552
00:38:54,944 --> 00:39:00,203
001 and Resolution 2026 084. Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

553
00:39:00,384 --> 00:39:07,038
Thank you again. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. We're

554
00:39:07,038 --> 00:39:10,318
going to move on to reports. And as was mentioned

555
00:39:10,358 --> 00:39:13,918
earlier, we're going to reorder, uh, and bring the e

556
00:39:13,958 --> 00:39:17,758
- bike discussion up first. And so with that, I

557
00:39:17,779 --> 00:39:20,698
will turn it over to City Manager Foltz for, uh,

558
00:39:21,139 --> 00:39:25,634
presentation of the item. Uh, thank you Mayor and members

559
00:39:25,634 --> 00:39:27,874
of the Council. This is a continuation of a discussion

560
00:39:27,914 --> 00:39:31,954
that was had earlier this year regarding e - bikes,

561
00:39:31,954 --> 00:39:34,434
uh, where the council requested that staff look into additional

562
00:39:34,474 --> 00:39:37,794
information. Uh, every word here. Some of it's for reference

563
00:39:38,055 --> 00:39:41,554
for later if needed, uh, but more or less, in

564
00:39:41,594 --> 00:39:45,074
our current code, bicycles and e - bikes, they're treated

565
00:39:45,074 --> 00:39:48,114
the same, uh, our code does not reference e bikes

566
00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:50,914
at all. Uh, bicycles and e - bikes are supposed

567
00:39:50,914 --> 00:39:53,794
to be meeting the same traffic, uh, laws and signs

568
00:39:53,815 --> 00:39:57,074
that are on the roadway today. Cities can, however, adopt

569
00:39:57,074 --> 00:40:00,354
additional regulations. And that's what's being discussed tonight. Uh, and

570
00:40:00,775 --> 00:40:04,034
in January, that's when council provided additional direction of staff.

571
00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:05,714
So the intent of this meeting is to provide some

572
00:40:05,735 --> 00:40:09,496
additional information, get additional direction from the council. Uh, so

573
00:40:09,997 --> 00:40:12,936
our current code is very interesting with regards to what

574
00:40:12,957 --> 00:40:16,436
a bicycle is defined as. For our current code, it

575
00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:20,436
talks about, uh, it's being propelled by a human power.

576
00:40:20,436 --> 00:40:22,196
But then it says it either has two or three

577
00:40:22,217 --> 00:40:24,436
wheels, one of which is at least 20 inches in

578
00:40:24,476 --> 00:40:27,636
diameter. And then it has a frame size of at

579
00:40:27,636 --> 00:40:31,136
least 14 inches or having four wheels or more. Uh,

580
00:40:31,136 --> 00:40:33,796
so it's, we've seen many bicycles out there with different

581
00:40:34,297 --> 00:40:36,676
wheel sizes and but then they can come and say

582
00:40:36,697 --> 00:40:38,996
that's not a bicycle. So some clean up on that

583
00:40:39,017 --> 00:40:43,476
language, uh, would be appropriate. State law says, uh, bike

584
00:40:43,497 --> 00:40:46,436
is one or more wheels and no wheel size. Right

585
00:40:46,436 --> 00:40:49,316
now in our current code, bicycles are prohibited from writing

586
00:40:49,337 --> 00:40:53,064
on the sidewalk in business districts. The peer and then

587
00:40:53,064 --> 00:40:57,108
public parks and facilities. Uh, the code also, uh, requires

588
00:40:57,449 --> 00:41:01,428
licensing, uh, but, uh, there is a law that was

589
00:41:01,449 --> 00:41:03,748
passed that says we were not allowed to do a

590
00:41:03,748 --> 00:41:06,788
licensing. So it prohibits that. Uh, so our current municipal

591
00:41:06,788 --> 00:41:09,028
code is not compliant. It would need to be updated

592
00:41:10,009 --> 00:41:13,268
to comply with current law. Uh, so this, uh, this

593
00:41:13,369 --> 00:41:16,628
slide here shows the current definitions for, uh, e -

594
00:41:16,628 --> 00:41:19,028
bikes today. There's three different types. There's the class one,

595
00:41:19,028 --> 00:41:22,068
which is pedal assisted. Um, and then it only provides

596
00:41:22,089 --> 00:41:25,108
the motor assistance when you're pedaling. There's no minimum age.

597
00:41:25,797 --> 00:41:28,896
Helmets are required for individuals under 18. There's a 20

598
00:41:29,077 --> 00:41:31,696
mile per hour max limit. Uh, and it's allowed to

599
00:41:31,696 --> 00:41:34,256
go wherever bicycles are permitted. The class two has the

600
00:41:34,277 --> 00:41:37,856
throttle assistance. Uh, and again, it has the motor that

601
00:41:38,357 --> 00:41:41,976
also assists to propel the bicycle, uh, with pedals. No

602
00:41:41,976 --> 00:41:46,176
minimum age again. Helmets are required for individuals under 18,

603
00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:49,116
20 miles per hour max limit, uh, for speed. And

604
00:41:49,116 --> 00:41:51,776
again, they're allowed wherever bicycles are allowed. And then the

605
00:41:51,797 --> 00:41:54,356
class three's a little different. It's pedal assisted. It has

606
00:41:54,356 --> 00:41:58,896
a speedometer. It's motor assistance, uh, when pedaling, uh, but

607
00:41:58,896 --> 00:42:01,136
it can't, uh, it doesn't have a throttle. Uh, the

608
00:42:01,237 --> 00:42:03,856
minimum age for that type of class is 16 years

609
00:42:03,856 --> 00:42:05,776
old. It's a higher speed limit of 28 miles an

610
00:42:05,816 --> 00:42:09,696
hour. And then all ages must, uh, wear a helmet.

611
00:42:09,696 --> 00:42:12,816
So, uh, e bikes. We also want to note their

612
00:42:12,856 --> 00:42:15,936
exempt from drivers licenses. License plates and insurance requirements. That's

613
00:42:15,936 --> 00:42:18,176
just per state law. Uh, and you also can't have

614
00:42:18,197 --> 00:42:20,976
a passenger unless the separate seat. Again, that's just per

615
00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:25,667
law. Uh, there's variety of state laws that cover the

616
00:42:25,707 --> 00:42:30,127
regulation of bicycles, which includes e bikes, uh, the, uh,

617
00:42:30,488 --> 00:42:33,007
there's certain vehicles that are not included, uh, in the

618
00:42:33,048 --> 00:42:35,967
e - bike discussion as well under state law. Uh,

619
00:42:35,967 --> 00:42:39,507
so, uh, one of the discussions here is, uh, vehicle

620
00:42:39,608 --> 00:42:41,587
with two or three wheels powered by an electric motors

621
00:42:41,768 --> 00:42:45,107
that's intended by the manufacturer to be modifiable to attain

622
00:42:45,208 --> 00:42:47,747
speed greater than 20 miles an hour. That's, that's not

623
00:42:47,928 --> 00:42:50,947
any bike. That's not allowed a vehicle that's modified to

624
00:42:51,208 --> 00:42:54,227
atterrate in 25 miles or 20 miles an hour on

625
00:42:54,267 --> 00:42:57,507
a motor, uh, alone without the pedals. That's, that's not

626
00:42:57,608 --> 00:42:59,347
an e - bike either. Uh, and then a vehicle

627
00:42:59,387 --> 00:43:02,707
that's modified to have, uh, the pedals completely removed. So

628
00:43:02,808 --> 00:43:04,387
none of those are e - bikes. Just wanted to

629
00:43:04,387 --> 00:43:07,187
make sure council is aware of those. Uh, there's also

630
00:43:07,288 --> 00:43:11,107
separate designation of e - scooters. Those have no pedals.

631
00:43:11,107 --> 00:43:14,147
Uh, there's an electric motor. Generally, it's 15 miles per

632
00:43:14,187 --> 00:43:17,507
hour, a maximum speed limit. Uh, they're prohibited on sidewalks

633
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:20,387
except to enter and leave adjacent properties. Uh, you do

634
00:43:20,427 --> 00:43:23,407
need a helmet if you're under 18 years old. The

635
00:43:23,407 --> 00:43:26,682
minimum HTUs are 16 years old. There are not allowed

636
00:43:26,682 --> 00:43:29,962
to have passengers. Uh, you actually do need a driver's

637
00:43:30,002 --> 00:43:33,642
license or instruction permit to utilize an e - scooter.

638
00:43:33,642 --> 00:43:36,442
Uh, and, uh, the state, the law specifically mentions that

639
00:43:36,482 --> 00:43:39,722
the financial responsibility registration or license plate requirements for e

640
00:43:39,762 --> 00:43:44,183
scooters. Uh, this just references a flyer that the sheriffs,

641
00:43:44,183 --> 00:43:49,223
uh, department has created to inform people about, uh, e

642
00:43:49,244 --> 00:43:53,863
- bikes, safety requirements. And then what the classes are

643
00:43:54,204 --> 00:43:55,863
and then what is not any bike. And that's in

644
00:43:55,863 --> 00:43:58,663
the bottom right hand corner on the third, uh, slide,

645
00:43:58,663 --> 00:44:02,423
uh, picture there, the motor license required for these different

646
00:44:02,444 --> 00:44:07,599
types mopeds, et cetera. Uh, and this just continues to

647
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:11,985
fly her. Uh, there is an assembly bill that was

648
00:44:11,985 --> 00:44:16,705
passed. Uh, that allows for additional regulations beyond what we

649
00:44:16,745 --> 00:44:19,985
just described. And this is the San Diego Electric Bicycle

650
00:44:20,025 --> 00:44:23,585
Safety Pilot program. It allows agencies in San Diego County

651
00:44:23,606 --> 00:44:27,585
specifically to adopt regulations, prohibiting persons under 12 from operating

652
00:44:27,686 --> 00:44:29,745
a class one or two e - bike. You have

653
00:44:29,745 --> 00:44:33,025
to have a public information campaign with at least 30,

654
00:44:33,025 --> 00:44:36,145
uh, 30 calendar days, uh, for that campaign. If you

655
00:44:36,145 --> 00:44:39,505
get a violation, uh, within the first 60 days, it's

656
00:44:39,545 --> 00:44:45,905
a warning after that. There's a fine of 25 dollars.

657
00:44:45,905 --> 00:44:49,505
Agencies also have to submit a report to the legislature.

658
00:44:49,505 --> 00:44:51,885
The agencies have to report it to the county, the

659
00:44:51,885 --> 00:44:55,425
county then, uh, reports it to the legislator. Uh, and,

660
00:44:55,425 --> 00:45:00,705
uh, the data that's collected is traffic seltzer violations results

661
00:45:00,705 --> 00:45:04,545
from traffic stops. The time persons was stopped while allegedly

662
00:45:04,585 --> 00:45:07,345
being under 12, but was found to be over the

663
00:45:07,385 --> 00:45:12,145
age limit. Description of warnings or violations cited. If an

664
00:45:12,145 --> 00:45:15,585
arrest or traffic stop is made, document perceived race, ethnicity,

665
00:45:15,585 --> 00:45:20,970
gender in approximate age. Detail the actions by the police

666
00:45:20,991 --> 00:45:24,970
officer, uh, number of times a person opted to complete

667
00:45:24,991 --> 00:45:28,010
training in lieu of the fine. And then the number

668
00:45:28,010 --> 00:45:31,050
of times person under 12 was involved in severe crasher

669
00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:36,410
injury prior and after the adopter regulations. Uh, so what

670
00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:38,870
are our neighbors doing? This was discussed last time, but

671
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:40,410
there has been some change. And that's why it took

672
00:45:40,431 --> 00:45:42,930
some time to, uh, come back to the council. We

673
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:45,050
have been tracking what San Diego's doing because there are,

674
00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:49,690
there are direct adjacent neighbor. Um, Carl's Bad Schulivista, Cornato,

675
00:45:49,711 --> 00:45:53,770
LaMESA, POUAY, now San Diego, San Marcos and Santee all

676
00:45:53,871 --> 00:45:57,370
past ordinances, uh, to prohibit the use of the e

677
00:45:57,410 --> 00:46:01,210
- bikes under 12 years old. Uh, for Coronado, they're

678
00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:04,970
prohibited also in different areas. Sidewalks beaches parks and then

679
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:08,010
the different areas noted here. Um, the writers can walk

680
00:46:08,111 --> 00:46:11,610
their e - bikes in those areas. Uh, for Class

681
00:46:11,631 --> 00:46:13,450
1 and 2, the writers have to be over 12

682
00:46:13,791 --> 00:46:17,610
for class 3, 16. Um, and then for Chula Vista,

683
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:20,490
it's very similar in those regards with those limitations because

684
00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:26,817
they've also adopted AB2234. San Diego has very similar rules.

685
00:46:26,817 --> 00:46:29,697
Uh, they've also prohibited under 12 years old for Class

686
00:46:29,798 --> 00:46:33,537
1 and 2. Um, and, uh, they're provided the public

687
00:46:33,638 --> 00:46:35,937
education campaign. This just has some of the dates where

688
00:46:36,038 --> 00:46:38,737
it went into effect. And that's just very recently August

689
00:46:38,758 --> 00:46:42,977
13th is where those regulations went into effect. Um, they

690
00:46:42,998 --> 00:46:46,577
also, uh, provide the same requirements within the law that

691
00:46:46,617 --> 00:46:49,137
allows for, uh, someone to take a class if they

692
00:46:49,137 --> 00:46:52,595
receive a fine things along those lines. Uh, ekes are

693
00:46:52,696 --> 00:46:55,635
allowed, uh, in bike lanes, roads and most bike paths

694
00:46:55,816 --> 00:46:58,915
in San Diego, but they're generally not allowed on sidewalks,

695
00:46:58,915 --> 00:47:02,755
near businesses or crosswalks, which are, uh, mainly pedestrian areas.

696
00:47:04,799 --> 00:47:07,418
Uh, these are just some of the flyers that Cornato

697
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,138
has created for their city so that people are aware

698
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:14,519
of what the regulations are. Uh, this is Cheul Vista.

699
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,519
They have a toolkit over they explain what, what the

700
00:47:16,540 --> 00:47:20,211
regulations are within their city. Uh, this is San Diego's

701
00:47:20,251 --> 00:47:23,551
website that describes the different laws and safety tips, uh,

702
00:47:23,592 --> 00:47:25,651
within the city. A lot of the different, the cities

703
00:47:25,651 --> 00:47:28,451
have very similar information because it's a geared specifically to

704
00:47:28,632 --> 00:47:30,931
state law and what the parameters of their cities are.

705
00:47:32,509 --> 00:47:34,968
So there are some considerations that the city council can

706
00:47:35,008 --> 00:47:39,768
have with regards to regulations within the city versus our

707
00:47:39,768 --> 00:47:43,848
municipal code. We mentioned the definitions earlier. They're fairly outdated.

708
00:47:43,848 --> 00:47:46,088
They don't, they didn't even contemplate e bikes or e

709
00:47:46,128 --> 00:47:48,888
- scooters or anything along those lines. Uh, so we

710
00:47:48,928 --> 00:47:51,368
would recommend having a definition for a bicycle that's more

711
00:47:51,408 --> 00:47:55,448
consistent with state law. Having definitions for electric bicycles consistent

712
00:47:55,448 --> 00:47:58,008
with state law. Same with the electric scooter, uh, we

713
00:47:58,029 --> 00:48:01,588
would also recommend Electric Mobility devices. We see a lot

714
00:48:01,588 --> 00:48:06,628
of, uh, unicycles or hoverboards or even electronic skateboards. Uh,

715
00:48:06,628 --> 00:48:09,048
so having a definition for that would assist with our

716
00:48:09,069 --> 00:48:12,831
regulations. And allowing people to know what they can and

717
00:48:12,831 --> 00:48:16,031
cannot use and what areas. Uh, but also defining a

718
00:48:16,071 --> 00:48:18,831
sidewalk and what a sidewalk is, uh, we have some

719
00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:22,191
different areas in the city such as the boardwalk on

720
00:48:22,212 --> 00:48:25,231
Imperial Leech Boulevard by the estuary. That was designed to

721
00:48:25,231 --> 00:48:27,231
actually allow for a bicycles. So that's, that would be

722
00:48:27,231 --> 00:48:29,951
something that we'd want some guidance on to make sure,

723
00:48:29,951 --> 00:48:32,751
are we going to not include using e bikes or

724
00:48:32,791 --> 00:48:36,151
e - scooters or eMobility devices in those areas? Or

725
00:48:36,151 --> 00:48:39,531
will we allow for, uh, use of those areas? Uh,

726
00:48:39,531 --> 00:48:42,351
so this goes into some of the, uh, regulations that

727
00:48:42,351 --> 00:48:45,471
can be considered by the council or at least request

728
00:48:45,492 --> 00:48:49,311
that staff look into it further. Expanding bicycle restrictions to

729
00:48:49,492 --> 00:48:52,431
all areas of parks and public facilities, not just the

730
00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:55,711
pedestrian areas, uh, because right now it mainly says pedestrian

731
00:48:55,812 --> 00:49:01,231
areas. Uh, so we could specifically, uh, state where eBikes

732
00:49:01,271 --> 00:49:03,711
may or may not be allowed or if they're prohibited.

733
00:49:03,711 --> 00:49:06,111
Same with the E. Scooters and eMobility devices, uh, do

734
00:49:06,151 --> 00:49:09,311
we want to prohibit them from playgrounds? Uh, from all

735
00:49:09,572 --> 00:49:13,551
park spaces, uh, from fields and trails, uh, from the

736
00:49:13,551 --> 00:49:17,151
entire Pure Plaza area, the pier, um, uh, or any

737
00:49:17,151 --> 00:49:21,871
other areas that's contemplated, um, I will note at sports

738
00:49:21,911 --> 00:49:25,471
park facility, uh, we just redid the sports park area.

739
00:49:25,471 --> 00:49:29,311
We did brand new concrete and there are tire marks

740
00:49:29,332 --> 00:49:32,351
all over that new concrete area. Uh, it would assist

741
00:49:32,372 --> 00:49:35,151
to have a clear definition within our code so that

742
00:49:35,151 --> 00:49:39,927
we could help, um, enforce that. Council can consider prohibiting

743
00:49:40,028 --> 00:49:43,047
e bikes. E. Scooters mobility devices on all sidewalks if

744
00:49:43,047 --> 00:49:46,647
they so choose or define areas where they may locate,

745
00:49:46,647 --> 00:49:49,527
uh, we could designate, uh, additional no writing areas such

746
00:49:49,567 --> 00:49:52,467
as the beachfront on the, on the sand itself, uh,

747
00:49:52,748 --> 00:49:55,447
schools at the skate park. Right now we do see

748
00:49:55,628 --> 00:49:57,607
e bikes using the skate park. It's not designed for

749
00:49:57,708 --> 00:50:01,127
such use. So that'd be a consideration. And also the

750
00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:03,927
board walk that I mentioned earlier, uh, or are there

751
00:50:03,948 --> 00:50:08,647
any other hypodesrian activity area? Uh, Council could consider requiring

752
00:50:08,687 --> 00:50:10,647
e bikes, e - scooters or e - mobility devices

753
00:50:10,668 --> 00:50:13,367
to be walked, uh, rather than written in all areas

754
00:50:13,628 --> 00:50:18,567
that we just described parks, uh, facilities, uh, pedestrian area,

755
00:50:18,567 --> 00:50:23,207
uh, only, uh, installing new signage, uh, throughout our public

756
00:50:23,247 --> 00:50:25,527
facilities. A lot of it's old and outdated. It doesn't

757
00:50:25,527 --> 00:50:30,647
really say, uh, e - bikes, rescooters. That many would

758
00:50:30,687 --> 00:50:34,407
be familiar with, uh, and then also ensuring that operators

759
00:50:34,447 --> 00:50:37,527
aren't blocking ADA access or obstructing any paths of travel.

760
00:50:38,604 --> 00:50:41,543
Uh, SAFE operation is another consideration that the Council can

761
00:50:42,044 --> 00:50:49,591
consider with, with guidelines. Uh, there are current California vehicle

762
00:50:49,772 --> 00:50:53,351
code requirements for reckless driving and things along those lines.

763
00:50:53,351 --> 00:50:56,151
Uh, but, uh, we can specifically state within the ordinance

764
00:50:56,492 --> 00:50:59,334
the intent. Would the Council want to consider traveling in

765
00:50:59,374 --> 00:51:03,014
the same direction of motor vehicle traffic at all times,

766
00:51:03,014 --> 00:51:05,714
even if they're on a sidewalk, if it's loud, um,

767
00:51:06,315 --> 00:51:10,694
uh, same with bicycle lanes, uh, we're writing this permitted

768
00:51:11,835 --> 00:51:14,534
yielding the right way to pedestrians. Again, that's a law,

769
00:51:14,534 --> 00:51:17,574
but specifically noting it within an ordinance at the city

770
00:51:17,675 --> 00:51:21,254
can utilize. Operate at a speed that's reasonable and prudent

771
00:51:21,294 --> 00:51:24,614
for existing conditions. Limits side by side writing to no

772
00:51:24,654 --> 00:51:29,094
more than two, except that during city approved events or

773
00:51:29,134 --> 00:51:32,354
other approved events, uh, maintaining at least one hand, uh,

774
00:51:32,395 --> 00:51:35,334
on the handlebars except when signaling providing an audible warning

775
00:51:35,595 --> 00:51:44,854
when overtaking pedestrians on shared use facilities. And, uh, following

776
00:51:45,195 --> 00:51:47,814
direction by council, we will look at it legally to

777
00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:49,894
find out what, what language can we come back with

778
00:51:49,995 --> 00:51:52,694
to the Council to ensure that we're not overstepping state

779
00:51:52,734 --> 00:51:57,618
law, but supplementing it in an appropriate way. We talked

780
00:51:57,618 --> 00:52:00,338
about reckless writing and street takeovers. Some of the complaints

781
00:52:00,359 --> 00:52:03,698
we often receive are seeing people doing wheelies, which seem

782
00:52:03,959 --> 00:52:07,858
very unsafe and the right of way burnouts, jumping, drifting,

783
00:52:07,898 --> 00:52:13,118
exhibitions of speed, other stunt writing unsafe turning movements, um,

784
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:18,178
impeding pedestrians, bicyclists, motorists, uh, carrying passengers, uh, unless the

785
00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:22,178
bicycles designed for it, equipped for that purpose, towing others.

786
00:52:22,178 --> 00:52:25,058
We see that, uh, often, uh, so we can consider

787
00:52:25,319 --> 00:52:28,978
language that would allow for enforcement of that. Uh, and

788
00:52:28,978 --> 00:52:32,418
then also utilizing handheld mobile phones, uh, or other electronic

789
00:52:32,418 --> 00:52:35,218
communication devices when they're using one of these, uh, either

790
00:52:35,319 --> 00:52:37,058
a bicycle or one of the e devices that we

791
00:52:37,058 --> 00:52:41,378
talked about. Or even organizing an event that, uh, what

792
00:52:41,378 --> 00:52:46,127
purposely, uh, not comply with the ordinance. Uh, but staff

793
00:52:46,148 --> 00:52:49,067
would recommend some other measures that would allow for, um,

794
00:52:49,508 --> 00:52:54,767
some flexibility as well. And that's this temporary operational authority.

795
00:52:54,767 --> 00:52:57,167
It would, it would allow the city manager to temporarily

796
00:52:57,188 --> 00:53:00,687
modify or suspend these rules, uh, in the purpose of

797
00:53:00,788 --> 00:53:05,167
public safety. So if during a permitted special event or

798
00:53:05,207 --> 00:53:09,307
an emergency or unusual traffic conditions or other circumstances, uh,

799
00:53:09,348 --> 00:53:13,247
these rules can be a temporarily adjusted, uh, just based

800
00:53:13,247 --> 00:53:16,927
on that current situation that the cities undergoing, um, uh,

801
00:53:17,028 --> 00:53:19,627
at the designation of the City manager, if, if, uh,

802
00:53:20,388 --> 00:53:24,207
requested by the Council. And then of course public education,

803
00:53:24,207 --> 00:53:29,327
uh, letting the community know what's being considered, um, informing

804
00:53:29,367 --> 00:53:33,407
people of, uh, educational warnings for first time if an

805
00:53:33,447 --> 00:53:37,327
ordinance is adopted, uh, ensuring again, that the intent is

806
00:53:37,508 --> 00:53:41,167
safety first and foremost, not necessarily getting a fine or

807
00:53:41,167 --> 00:53:45,335
anything along those lines. But safety is paramount. Uh, so

808
00:53:45,356 --> 00:53:48,855
that concludes staff report. We request that the Council provide

809
00:53:48,895 --> 00:53:53,015
direction on some of these regulations. Um, and, uh, City

810
00:53:53,036 --> 00:53:55,015
staff can come back with a draft ordinance or other

811
00:53:55,116 --> 00:53:59,575
considerations. Uh, and also cleaning up that ordinance that is

812
00:53:59,615 --> 00:54:03,335
not compliant, uh, to date. Um, and, uh, some of

813
00:54:03,335 --> 00:54:06,375
the general topics is to update the municipal code. And

814
00:54:06,375 --> 00:54:07,415
then I have some of the bullet points there that

815
00:54:07,455 --> 00:54:09,175
we went over just in case we want to reference

816
00:54:09,175 --> 00:54:14,295
it. Uh, this concludes staff's report. Council member Nakawat is

817
00:54:14,335 --> 00:54:16,695
a has collected some survey information that she would like

818
00:54:16,735 --> 00:54:26,078
to present on at this time. Thank you, Dilar. I

819
00:54:26,118 --> 00:54:28,558
always like a good community survey and I was happy

820
00:54:28,598 --> 00:54:30,558
to say that this had a pretty high engagement of

821
00:54:30,659 --> 00:54:34,158
one. Data is, I believe, published and in the back

822
00:54:34,198 --> 00:54:36,238
for anyone that wants to reference it. And I said,

823
00:54:36,238 --> 00:54:38,558
if I spelled anything wrong, uh, don't tell me in

824
00:54:38,598 --> 00:54:41,198
public, tell me later. Uh, I had the great pleasure

825
00:54:41,299 --> 00:54:45,118
of hosting this just a bit of a methodology of

826
00:54:45,158 --> 00:54:47,598
what I did. So just to try and maximize my

827
00:54:47,619 --> 00:54:49,998
participation and try and reach a broad section of the

828
00:54:49,998 --> 00:54:55,038
community, I promoted it through, um, comprehensive digital outreach campaign.

829
00:54:55,038 --> 00:54:57,678
My survey was posted twice across my personal, um, social

830
00:54:57,718 --> 00:55:02,318
media platforms, including Facebook, Instagram, ex - formally as Twitter,

831
00:55:02,318 --> 00:55:05,518
LinkedIn and next door. In addition, I posted the survey,

832
00:55:05,518 --> 00:55:07,838
um, to my social media stories on three separate occasions

833
00:55:08,099 --> 00:55:10,638
at three separate times to try and encourage and increase

834
00:55:10,638 --> 00:55:14,218
the visibility and encourage participation through the outreach period. Um,

835
00:55:14,218 --> 00:55:17,198
I also posted in all of our relevant IBlocal happenings

836
00:55:17,219 --> 00:55:19,598
groups and everything like that to just encourage, um, people

837
00:55:19,779 --> 00:55:21,358
to fill it out. So I was happy to say

838
00:55:21,539 --> 00:55:24,638
in that period, I was able to receive 92 responses,

839
00:55:24,638 --> 00:55:28,298
um, 76 respondents asking to see the survey results. Um,

840
00:55:28,298 --> 00:55:31,758
in terms of respondent demographics, it was, uh, 32 of

841
00:55:31,798 --> 00:55:35,518
drivers, uh, 18 of e - bike readers. Writers, excuse

842
00:55:35,518 --> 00:55:40,518
me, parents and guardians 16 pedestrians 11 traditional cyclists. So

843
00:55:40,518 --> 00:55:45,689
regular bicyclist, eight and other seven. Next slide, please. And

844
00:55:45,689 --> 00:55:48,809
then in terms of age distribution of survey respondents, um,

845
00:55:49,570 --> 00:55:53,949
65 plus crowd with 37 respondents, uh, 55 to 64,

846
00:55:53,949 --> 00:55:59,309
18, 45 to 54, 17, 35 to 44, 13, 25

847
00:55:59,330 --> 00:56:02,489
to 34, six and 18 to 24, which I was

848
00:56:02,489 --> 00:56:05,629
hoping for a little bit more, uh, I had one.

849
00:56:05,629 --> 00:56:09,840
Next slide, please. In terms of the e - bike

850
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,800
ownership among survey respondents, I thought that was really important.

851
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Obviously, if you own an e - bike, I'd hope

852
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,400
you'd participate. Um, we had no of 57 respondents with

853
00:56:18,581 --> 00:56:24,776
62 percent. And yes, with 35 respondents. Not not necessarily

854
00:56:24,797 --> 00:56:26,776
in the slides, but just for the people, the primary

855
00:56:27,037 --> 00:56:28,776
use that people use e - bikes for in our

856
00:56:28,816 --> 00:56:30,776
community in terms of that responded to the survey was

857
00:56:30,957 --> 00:56:36,367
recreation with transportation being second. Um, I had a sling

858
00:56:36,548 --> 00:56:39,527
scale in regards to, uh, the survey, because I think

859
00:56:39,527 --> 00:56:41,247
it's easier to, for people to kind of gauge what

860
00:56:41,287 --> 00:56:44,207
they feel about either, I'm not really concerned or I

861
00:56:44,207 --> 00:56:47,487
am really concerned. And so these were our top e

862
00:56:47,487 --> 00:56:49,887
- bike safety concerns. And so I chose specifically from

863
00:56:49,927 --> 00:56:53,727
the highly concerned to focus on, um, which was writers

864
00:56:53,767 --> 00:56:57,407
ignoring the stop signs and traffic signals. Excessive speed, distracted

865
00:56:57,447 --> 00:57:01,807
writing, helmet use, conflicts with pedestrians and multiple writers on

866
00:57:02,548 --> 00:57:04,047
one e - bike, which is kind of a reflection

867
00:57:04,308 --> 00:57:07,167
in terms of the staff report about complaints they received.

868
00:57:07,828 --> 00:57:11,261
Next slide. Um, I just want to know that in

869
00:57:11,261 --> 00:57:14,041
terms of the safety solutions, it was noted before, but

870
00:57:14,041 --> 00:57:17,021
just to reiterate that youth licensing and certification is not

871
00:57:17,021 --> 00:57:19,341
something we can allow. So my apologies for putting that

872
00:57:19,341 --> 00:57:21,501
in the survey. I was going after Arminess full code

873
00:57:21,541 --> 00:57:23,981
first. Um, so that was my fault. Um, but some

874
00:57:23,981 --> 00:57:26,221
of the safety solutions that the community is looking to

875
00:57:26,221 --> 00:57:32,301
see is increased enforcement speed limit enforcement, parent guardian education,

876
00:57:32,301 --> 00:57:36,541
writer education, helmet campaigns, community awareness campaigns, better bike lanes

877
00:57:36,562 --> 00:57:38,941
and then more signage. This kind of theme that we're

878
00:57:38,981 --> 00:57:42,381
seeing is that there's obviously a strong desire from enforcement.

879
00:57:42,381 --> 00:57:45,981
Some accountability from youth and definitely education before punishment in

880
00:57:46,021 --> 00:57:47,661
regards to that. In terms of some of the open

881
00:57:47,842 --> 00:57:50,141
- ended, um, I think it's really important for people

882
00:57:50,162 --> 00:57:53,341
to kind of verbalize what they're interested in. So the

883
00:57:53,522 --> 00:57:55,341
open - end comments, which was at the end of

884
00:57:55,341 --> 00:57:57,581
the survey, trying to encourage people to ride in what

885
00:57:57,581 --> 00:58:01,021
they thought might be the best solution or everything like

886
00:58:01,021 --> 00:58:03,501
that, because I don't always have the best ideas. It's

887
00:58:03,501 --> 00:58:06,621
definitely some of the constituents who give me the most.

888
00:58:06,621 --> 00:58:09,581
But yeah, I thought it was a fairly good survey

889
00:58:09,682 --> 00:58:11,501
that got ran. And I was, I was happy that

890
00:58:11,602 --> 00:58:14,402
more people were engaged in it. And I think that's

891
00:58:14,442 --> 00:58:19,602
it. Very, thank you for taking the time and the

892
00:58:19,602 --> 00:58:23,042
effort to put that all together and to collate the

893
00:58:23,042 --> 00:58:28,039
data and, uh, provide that presentation. Um. We have public

894
00:58:28,060 --> 00:58:31,559
speakers. I have one public speaker card. Um, we also

895
00:58:31,660 --> 00:58:39,657
had correspondence provided to, uh, the City. Pardon me. Been

896
00:58:39,697 --> 00:58:41,737
made available to the staff and also those in the

897
00:58:41,838 --> 00:58:46,457
room that came from Senator Brilhart. We thank her for

898
00:58:46,457 --> 00:58:50,636
that. Um, the public speaker card I have is for

899
00:58:50,737 --> 00:58:53,436
Lynn Fisher. So if you want to go ahead and,

900
00:58:53,436 --> 00:58:59,851
uh, come up. Get Eden Council staff, Lynn Fisher, resident,

901
00:58:59,851 --> 00:59:04,636
retired government analysts, executive special projects. I just want to

902
00:59:04,697 --> 00:59:09,316
commend Councilwoman Nakatuase for following through and sharing the outcome

903
00:59:09,316 --> 00:59:11,636
of the eBite Community Survey. I was really looking forward

904
00:59:11,657 --> 00:59:16,116
to this. I hope the city puts these results on

905
00:59:16,156 --> 00:59:20,116
the website on the Cities website so that residents can

906
00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:22,676
clearly find them. And don't just leave them on the

907
00:59:22,697 --> 00:59:25,476
agenda because it's really difficult for residents to find that

908
00:59:25,516 --> 00:59:31,720
information on the agenda. Um, uh, PAS councils used to

909
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:36,100
involve residents very often in open workshops and surveys. And

910
00:59:36,221 --> 00:59:39,480
they use those outcomes of those resources to build better

911
00:59:39,821 --> 00:59:43,000
city reports and documents. And we haven't really seen that

912
00:59:43,981 --> 00:59:49,000
many outreaches like this lately. So this was really refreshing

913
00:59:49,181 --> 00:59:52,440
to see this in many of us participated. So I

914
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,760
would really like to see a return to this approach.

915
00:59:55,477 --> 00:59:57,616
So that if you want, if you want to see

916
00:59:57,656 --> 00:59:59,856
more of us here in this room, then talk to

917
00:59:59,856 --> 01:00:04,112
us more. And so this was a really refreshing approach.

918
01:00:04,112 --> 01:00:07,712
And we participated. So, um, I want to thank the

919
01:00:07,712 --> 01:00:10,832
Councilwoman again for stepping up here and trying to inspire

920
01:00:10,853 --> 01:00:14,105
people to take part and show up. So it's really

921
01:00:14,206 --> 01:00:17,145
appreciated. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for

922
01:00:17,185 --> 01:00:26,901
your comments. Do we have any speakers online? Yes, Mr.

923
01:00:26,922 --> 01:00:30,981
Mayor, we have one raised hand and it's truth. Please

924
01:00:30,981 --> 01:00:38,272
proceed. Truth, please begin. Hi there. I'm beginning. So yes,

925
01:00:38,272 --> 01:00:41,305
include the other e devices into the language. I don't

926
01:00:41,305 --> 01:00:45,225
know about wheels near the astroy kind of questionable. There

927
01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:47,065
are a lot of pedestrians, but at the same time,

928
01:00:47,065 --> 01:00:48,185
if it's made for it, but then I guess you

929
01:00:48,185 --> 01:00:51,054
can't go back on your word. Definitely not on the

930
01:00:51,094 --> 01:00:53,774
tier because that not only does it put pedestrians at

931
01:00:53,774 --> 01:00:56,734
risk, it does damage to the pier. Everybody knows lithium

932
01:00:56,755 --> 01:01:00,074
is a much heavier than anything else. So I personally

933
01:01:00,114 --> 01:01:01,914
can't stand when I see them even at the core

934
01:01:01,914 --> 01:01:05,154
noticery landing on that little period there. It's just, I

935
01:01:05,154 --> 01:01:07,914
see bad things happening. And don't forget, you have to

936
01:01:07,914 --> 01:01:10,434
put up signs where you say no. The court of

937
01:01:10,434 --> 01:01:13,194
San Diego does that. So the signs are very obvious,

938
01:01:13,194 --> 01:01:15,514
but don't do any restrictions if you're not alerting the

939
01:01:15,554 --> 01:01:19,013
people to at first. Uh, but my feeling about eBay

940
01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:21,413
is that they should just be banned for anyone under

941
01:01:21,434 --> 01:01:25,126
the age of 18. They're essentially no different than mopeds,

942
01:01:25,166 --> 01:01:27,926
vespas and motorcycles. And so should be subject to the

943
01:01:27,926 --> 01:01:32,748
same regulations. Uh, there's nothing wrong with a regular bike

944
01:01:32,849 --> 01:01:35,872
for a child. It's actually way more affordable. But that's

945
01:01:35,912 --> 01:01:38,672
not to say that children are the only problem. Cause

946
01:01:38,672 --> 01:01:40,512
I can't tell you how many adults I've seen that

947
01:01:40,552 --> 01:01:43,312
have ridden in the opposite direction of traffic. Then made

948
01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:47,304
an illegal turn in the opposite direction of traffic. So

949
01:01:48,285 --> 01:01:52,504
traffic enforcement doesn't usually happen with bicycles. It happens with

950
01:01:52,525 --> 01:01:55,855
vehicles, right? And that is my point. I think even

951
01:01:56,356 --> 01:02:00,095
banny evites from sidewalks parks peers, et cetera is a

952
01:02:00,095 --> 01:02:04,248
sign that they're not safe toys. They're dangerous vehicles. Along

953
01:02:04,288 --> 01:02:07,888
with future, state approved licenses. I'm hoping for that. I

954
01:02:07,888 --> 01:02:12,728
support required education courses, fines and empowending bikes. Because the

955
01:02:12,829 --> 01:02:15,528
breath on eBox need to face all of those things.

956
01:02:15,528 --> 01:02:17,768
The parents also need to face punishment when their child

957
01:02:17,789 --> 01:02:20,657
does something wrong. I do not accept e - bikers

958
01:02:20,758 --> 01:02:23,777
taking over streets and destroying rows and property and then

959
01:02:23,777 --> 01:02:27,582
not facing punishment for. They need to pay damages. Um,

960
01:02:27,923 --> 01:02:30,462
something else that's just distantly related that has never been

961
01:02:30,483 --> 01:02:34,302
addressed is e. by tontransit or e. scooters or whatever

962
01:02:34,342 --> 01:02:35,902
it is. They take up tons of room. I just

963
01:02:35,923 --> 01:02:38,782
want you to consider that wherever that will be applicable

964
01:02:38,963 --> 01:02:42,958
at some point MTS. And I wanted to point out,

965
01:02:42,958 --> 01:02:46,558
uh, all of Marniko's misspellings because I saw a lot.

966
01:02:46,558 --> 01:02:47,918
And I'm just kidding. Uh, you did a great job

967
01:02:48,179 --> 01:02:51,018
of the survey in presentation. Thanks for doing that. Um,

968
01:02:51,018 --> 01:02:53,518
and I also want to point out that after you

969
01:02:53,518 --> 01:02:56,718
turn 18, you no longer have to wear a helmet.

970
01:02:56,718 --> 01:02:58,718
Because as soon as you become an adult, your brain,

971
01:02:58,758 --> 01:03:01,438
it just no longer matters. Don't worry about it. Thank

972
01:03:01,438 --> 01:03:07,281
you. Thank you for your comments. All right. We're going

973
01:03:07,281 --> 01:03:13,281
to go to City Council discussion. Um, I think Councilmer

974
01:03:13,302 --> 01:03:23,293
Lavalazalis is ready to go. Um. I, I,

975
01:03:23,333 --> 01:03:28,903
I believe that we do have to make. Make it

976
01:03:28,943 --> 01:03:35,063
safer in our city. So personally, um, this past Christmas,

977
01:03:35,063 --> 01:03:39,522
my son. Convinced my 14 year old son convinced me

978
01:03:39,783 --> 01:03:43,722
to purchase him an e - bike. April 12th, he

979
01:03:43,722 --> 01:03:46,962
was at urgent care. So he fessed up that he

980
01:03:46,962 --> 01:03:50,782
was trying to pop Willies. So. Like I see the

981
01:03:50,822 --> 01:03:55,887
kids popping Willies everywhere. And I was drawn to it.

982
01:03:55,887 --> 01:03:58,427
So I went home and got on my bike. And

983
01:03:58,427 --> 01:04:00,367
I can't pop Willies. I was like, how do they

984
01:04:00,367 --> 01:04:02,847
do it and make it look so easy? So I

985
01:04:02,868 --> 01:04:05,887
think a lot of why these kids are doing that

986
01:04:06,228 --> 01:04:11,087
is because it's part of that acceptance. And they want

987
01:04:11,087 --> 01:04:14,287
to be accepted in their friends are doing it. So,

988
01:04:14,287 --> 01:04:18,847
um, we just have to work together to make it

989
01:04:18,868 --> 01:04:22,687
safer, not necessarily only for the people that the kids

990
01:04:22,708 --> 01:04:25,407
that are writing these, um, e - bikes. But for

991
01:04:25,428 --> 01:04:29,647
the residents as well. Because I've seen kids go through

992
01:04:30,068 --> 01:04:36,287
peer plaza and they don't necessarily care. And the people

993
01:04:36,287 --> 01:04:39,247
that are out there walking with their kids or dogs,

994
01:04:39,247 --> 01:04:42,927
um, and I'm really looking forward to us working together

995
01:04:43,588 --> 01:04:47,610
as a group. To figure out exactly what we need

996
01:04:47,650 --> 01:04:52,410
to do to make everyone safer on the bikes as

997
01:04:52,410 --> 01:04:55,730
well as people and our residents in the city. So

998
01:04:55,791 --> 01:04:58,636
that's all I have. Great. Thank you for this comments

999
01:04:58,817 --> 01:05:04,409
and that personal observation. Council Member Nakawata say thank you

1000
01:05:04,510 --> 01:05:06,809
Mayor. Um, in no particular order, I've just been taking

1001
01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:08,969
notes after the last few weeks in regards to this,

1002
01:05:08,969 --> 01:05:10,329
uh, some of the direction that I would personally like

1003
01:05:10,329 --> 01:05:15,449
to see is again, yes, incorporating electrical mobility devices if

1004
01:05:15,449 --> 01:05:17,449
we're going to update the code. We should include all

1005
01:05:17,630 --> 01:05:20,489
of the electronic devices coming up. I know I have

1006
01:05:20,529 --> 01:05:22,489
quite a few lovely salesmen that come on those little

1007
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:26,649
unicycle things up and down my road. Um, I really

1008
01:05:26,670 --> 01:05:30,089
do want to agree on posting online in regards to

1009
01:05:30,110 --> 01:05:32,809
social media and website and finding easier for our constituents

1010
01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:35,429
to say like they get a little pop up. Hey

1011
01:05:35,429 --> 01:05:38,009
this new e - bike ordinances happening. This is where

1012
01:05:38,049 --> 01:05:40,089
you can find the information on it. I think pictures

1013
01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:42,409
are really helpful. I was, I really like seeing that

1014
01:05:42,449 --> 01:05:44,869
a lot of these tool kits are including more, um,

1015
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:48,109
pictures of things and just examples of stuff. If you

1016
01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:50,009
ask me to pick a lineup of a class three

1017
01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:52,889
e - bike in a lineup, I would not know

1018
01:05:53,390 --> 01:05:55,849
what necessary to look for. So anything like that is

1019
01:05:55,889 --> 01:05:58,409
helpful. I do agree that I don't think we can

1020
01:05:58,670 --> 01:06:04,009
enforce everything without some kind of large educational component as

1021
01:06:04,049 --> 01:06:06,389
well as updating Republic signage first. I think a lot

1022
01:06:06,389 --> 01:06:08,169
of people are frustrated to see a lot of new

1023
01:06:08,190 --> 01:06:12,249
meters appear in a certain park in another city without

1024
01:06:12,590 --> 01:06:15,089
there really being educational component that people are going to

1025
01:06:15,089 --> 01:06:16,849
have to pay for that stuff. So really want to

1026
01:06:16,849 --> 01:06:19,049
make sure that we have updated that all of that

1027
01:06:19,089 --> 01:06:23,289
before we start enforcing and everything. Um, for me personally,

1028
01:06:23,310 --> 01:06:25,609
because it's, it's in the district that, that area by

1029
01:06:25,609 --> 01:06:30,409
the estuary, I don't really consider it being smart for,

1030
01:06:30,409 --> 01:06:33,689
um, eBikes to be on. Specifically just because we, I

1031
01:06:33,729 --> 01:06:36,729
went and physically saw also, um, at the sports park,

1032
01:06:36,729 --> 01:06:38,729
the tire marks that are becoming more and more in

1033
01:06:38,729 --> 01:06:40,729
apparent there. There's a lot of areas there that I

1034
01:06:40,750 --> 01:06:42,809
think that we're going to have to then keep starting

1035
01:06:42,849 --> 01:06:44,769
to clean up more in public works is going to

1036
01:06:44,769 --> 01:06:46,009
have to get more involved in and cleaning up in

1037
01:06:46,009 --> 01:06:48,889
that area. I would also probably prefer no e -

1038
01:06:48,889 --> 01:06:52,489
bikes on, on sidewalks in those regards. Uh, some of

1039
01:06:52,489 --> 01:06:55,769
the reckless writing, uh, my street is definitely a road

1040
01:06:55,809 --> 01:06:58,489
that is currently getting a lot of e - bikes

1041
01:06:58,489 --> 01:07:04,089
on really more so, um, frustration with how fast they're

1042
01:07:04,089 --> 01:07:06,169
going, especially not only on my street, but in the

1043
01:07:06,209 --> 01:07:09,769
history as well, no helmets. And two to three passengers

1044
01:07:09,809 --> 01:07:11,269
on some of these bikes is just a little bit

1045
01:07:11,269 --> 01:07:14,089
scary. I agree that having it defined that it should

1046
01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:18,889
be, if it's not an additional seat, um, I know

1047
01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:23,269
that the age component, uh, comes up pretty often. And

1048
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:25,689
I'm, I'm not, I'm going to be perfectly frank. I'm,

1049
01:07:25,689 --> 01:07:27,529
I'm not a mother. I don't have kids or anything

1050
01:07:27,569 --> 01:07:30,009
like that. I've talked with quite a few of our

1051
01:07:30,049 --> 01:07:32,889
neighbors that I've pinned now that have e - bikes

1052
01:07:32,990 --> 01:07:36,009
and writers as a family. I just don't really like

1053
01:07:36,030 --> 01:07:39,609
the concept of splitting up a family that rides together.

1054
01:07:40,270 --> 01:07:43,369
There are families, in my opinion, and kids now that

1055
01:07:43,950 --> 01:07:46,169
are respecting the roles in law. For me, I don't

1056
01:07:46,209 --> 01:07:48,729
see it a parent to make an age enforcement on

1057
01:07:48,729 --> 01:07:51,049
that. I do think some responsibility does need to come

1058
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:53,209
not only down to youth. But as well as the

1059
01:07:53,249 --> 01:07:57,609
parents and guardians themselves in that, um, I'm all for

1060
01:07:57,630 --> 01:08:01,609
an incredible, great community workshop. I love that. Um, county

1061
01:08:01,649 --> 01:08:04,409
supervisor, Terra Lost Remorer did one, I believe with SIPS

1062
01:08:04,430 --> 01:08:07,209
Ranch in regards to an education, kind of teaching parents

1063
01:08:08,030 --> 01:08:11,826
what are. The trends happening in the emergency rooms and

1064
01:08:11,866 --> 01:08:14,206
everything like that. And I had reached out to, um,

1065
01:08:14,487 --> 01:08:16,306
sharp to see if they were interested in hosting something

1066
01:08:16,327 --> 01:08:19,426
similar here. And they were. So I love a good

1067
01:08:19,447 --> 01:08:22,226
community workshop and would really like to see that and

1068
01:08:22,266 --> 01:08:24,626
have our best we can educate more. It's hard to

1069
01:08:24,666 --> 01:08:29,786
change stuff that we've done forever. Um, National IITOL. I

1070
01:08:29,786 --> 01:08:31,426
realized that I've been breaking the no bikes in the

1071
01:08:31,447 --> 01:08:33,746
park rule since I was very little, uh, because I've

1072
01:08:33,786 --> 01:08:37,006
definitely ridden my bike through there all the time. Um,

1073
01:08:37,006 --> 01:08:39,346
so that's definitely a component that we need to try

1074
01:08:39,346 --> 01:08:42,786
and encourage our neighbors and whatnot that there is going

1075
01:08:42,786 --> 01:08:44,386
to be having a little bit of change in the

1076
01:08:44,426 --> 01:08:47,586
community and how we can best move forward with that.

1077
01:08:47,626 --> 01:08:50,546
Those are really the things that I think were the

1078
01:08:50,546 --> 01:08:52,386
most in terms of council direction that I thought was

1079
01:08:52,407 --> 01:08:56,226
really important to address and clarify. So thank you. Thank

1080
01:08:56,226 --> 01:09:01,007
you for your comments. Mayor Pro Tem Fisher. You know,

1081
01:09:01,007 --> 01:09:04,367
this is always such a discussion with so much Tom

1082
01:09:04,407 --> 01:09:08,127
Pack looking at, you know, what do we draft as

1083
01:09:08,127 --> 01:09:10,927
an ordinance? What do we change municipal code out? What

1084
01:09:10,948 --> 01:09:15,087
is what? Again, the, as I'm sitting here, I'm thinking,

1085
01:09:15,087 --> 01:09:17,327
so if a 12 year old has a e -

1086
01:09:17,327 --> 01:09:19,127
bike and can't write on the sidewalk, we're going to

1087
01:09:19,127 --> 01:09:23,433
push him into traffic. To me, that's crazy. Absolutely crazy.

1088
01:09:24,236 --> 01:09:26,135
You know, and I think that, you know, the couple

1089
01:09:26,135 --> 01:09:28,015
of things that I just want to get kind of

1090
01:09:28,236 --> 01:09:32,535
is housekeeping. I agree with, uh, Mrs. Fisher and Councilmember

1091
01:09:32,636 --> 01:09:35,815
Nakawa. I say perhaps a good comedian outreach with service

1092
01:09:35,855 --> 01:09:40,364
well. The data you collected in years. I understand where

1093
01:09:40,404 --> 01:09:43,164
it comes from, but again, most of the people were

1094
01:09:43,204 --> 01:09:47,004
older people who don't have e - bikes. And we

1095
01:09:47,025 --> 01:09:49,864
see families throughout our community writing e - bikes. Um,

1096
01:09:49,864 --> 01:09:51,244
and I agree that, you know, how do you split

1097
01:09:51,265 --> 01:09:54,124
up a family? You know, maybe it's a 12 and

1098
01:09:54,164 --> 01:09:58,461
end or with supervisions type of thing. But again, I

1099
01:09:58,562 --> 01:10:01,181
sit there and yesterday or the other day before I

1100
01:10:01,181 --> 01:10:03,581
was leaving City Hall. And I had a guy in

1101
01:10:03,581 --> 01:10:07,402
the bike lane on a mobility scooter. It's only form

1102
01:10:07,442 --> 01:10:10,522
of transportation. He's like, Hey, don't hit me. I'm going

1103
01:10:10,543 --> 01:10:12,598
slow, but I'm going as fast as I can. He

1104
01:10:12,638 --> 01:10:17,332
was probably going seven miles an hour. So how, how,

1105
01:10:17,332 --> 01:10:20,832
I understand we wanted to find stuff. But, you know,

1106
01:10:20,832 --> 01:10:23,652
how do we get to the point where it's even,

1107
01:10:23,652 --> 01:10:25,472
how do we enforce it? I just don't know. And

1108
01:10:25,673 --> 01:10:27,812
you know, when it comes down to assembly bill, twelve,

1109
01:10:27,913 --> 01:10:30,412
thirty, again, another bill that comes our way tells us

1110
01:10:30,412 --> 01:10:32,852
to do his death and has, I'm assuming the funding,

1111
01:10:32,852 --> 01:10:35,747
right? Is there no funding. Because there's never any funding

1112
01:10:35,848 --> 01:10:37,747
with assembly bills. You have to do all this outreach

1113
01:10:37,787 --> 01:10:42,627
education, put up signs, do this, that, um, but if

1114
01:10:42,627 --> 01:10:47,827
it's okay, I do have a question for Lieutenant Galli.

1115
01:10:47,827 --> 01:10:51,747
Because I just want to understand, because part of 22,

1116
01:10:51,747 --> 01:10:54,787
34 is reporting the data would be collected in any

1117
01:10:54,808 --> 01:11:02,307
infraction. So if you find some teen who's driving writing

1118
01:11:02,347 --> 01:11:04,787
an e - bike recklessly, what does that look like

1119
01:11:06,248 --> 01:11:08,707
if they were to be stopped, are they actually present

1120
01:11:08,747 --> 01:11:12,067
identification? Are their parents called? What's, maybe you could just

1121
01:11:12,067 --> 01:11:15,226
help me out. Jerk him. Excuse me, Mayor City Council.

1122
01:11:15,226 --> 01:11:17,186
Uh, it could be a variety of those things. I

1123
01:11:17,186 --> 01:11:19,626
mean, it just depends. Does the teen have valid license

1124
01:11:19,626 --> 01:11:22,746
on them or any kind of identification at all? So

1125
01:11:23,487 --> 01:11:26,746
sometimes it's just verbal. Whatever, whatever biographical information that we

1126
01:11:26,746 --> 01:11:30,106
need to fill out the citation or traffic accident is

1127
01:11:30,146 --> 01:11:31,706
sometimes just verbal. And we do our best to vet

1128
01:11:31,706 --> 01:11:33,866
that. Hopefully we can call responsible parent to the scene

1129
01:11:33,887 --> 01:11:36,666
to sort of vet that information. But sometimes that's kind

1130
01:11:36,666 --> 01:11:38,906
of the best we can do because obviously people under

1131
01:11:38,946 --> 01:11:40,826
the age of 16, I mean, let's just say a

1132
01:11:40,927 --> 01:11:43,466
school ID or something that they have may not be

1133
01:11:43,487 --> 01:11:45,306
equipped with that. So I don't know if that answers

1134
01:11:45,346 --> 01:11:47,866
your question. No, that kind of leads me to where

1135
01:11:47,866 --> 01:11:52,986
I thought it would. That even the enforcement component is

1136
01:11:53,087 --> 01:11:55,226
mediocre at best. And that has anything to do with

1137
01:11:55,327 --> 01:11:59,226
our law enforcement team. Uh, it's because it's just 13

1138
01:11:59,266 --> 01:12:02,543
year olds don't carry AD on them normally. You know,

1139
01:12:02,583 --> 01:12:05,663
and again, tracking this stuff for purposes. And I understand

1140
01:12:05,844 --> 01:12:11,003
the requirements for, for 2234 are just very vague, uh,

1141
01:12:11,044 --> 01:12:13,503
but again, does it solve the problem? You know, if

1142
01:12:13,543 --> 01:12:16,543
you look at, for me, the biggest problem is we

1143
01:12:16,583 --> 01:12:18,463
allow these e - bikes to be sold at a

1144
01:12:18,503 --> 01:12:21,823
great cost to whoever wants to buy them without any

1145
01:12:21,844 --> 01:12:25,503
form of registration or anything. If California was smart, they

1146
01:12:25,684 --> 01:12:29,552
would require these parents who were buying these bikes. For

1147
01:12:29,813 --> 01:12:32,797
their kids. To make sure that they're registered. They understand

1148
01:12:33,058 --> 01:12:36,157
that the parents need the training before the kid gets

1149
01:12:36,197 --> 01:12:39,419
the bike. Because I think that there's a big part

1150
01:12:39,419 --> 01:12:43,297
that we're missing here. Because on the city level, we're

1151
01:12:43,318 --> 01:12:46,092
not going to be able to fix this. On the

1152
01:12:46,132 --> 01:12:49,852
printal level, that's where the responsibility is. So if the

1153
01:12:49,953 --> 01:12:52,092
parent decides to spend, I don't know what it, what

1154
01:12:52,132 --> 01:12:57,692
does an e - by - cost? My first five

1155
01:12:57,953 --> 01:13:02,689
cars didn't cost more than 1200 dollars. But, you know,

1156
01:13:02,689 --> 01:13:04,629
my whole thing is, is like, we should really look

1157
01:13:04,650 --> 01:13:08,596
at what can the state do to require. People to

1158
01:13:08,697 --> 01:13:11,316
register and get that education before you buy an e

1159
01:13:11,356 --> 01:13:13,156
- bike for your 16 - year - old, your

1160
01:13:13,156 --> 01:13:14,516
12 - year - old, you should be the one

1161
01:13:15,017 --> 01:13:18,256
having to understand what the training looks like. You know,

1162
01:13:18,297 --> 01:13:20,916
if you buy a car for your kid, it's a

1163
01:13:20,916 --> 01:13:22,916
little bit different, but then you have insurance. You have

1164
01:13:22,916 --> 01:13:25,876
to make sure they're licensed. We're providing something for somebody

1165
01:13:25,916 --> 01:13:30,036
to do the unthinkable, you know, 100 years ago, nobody

1166
01:13:30,076 --> 01:13:32,916
went 20 miles an hour. And if you did, you

1167
01:13:32,916 --> 01:13:35,476
know, when first cars came out, people thought it was

1168
01:13:35,497 --> 01:13:38,116
crazy that they're, you know, do an 18 miles an

1169
01:13:38,156 --> 01:13:40,516
hour. That's faster than the horse carriage could ever take

1170
01:13:40,516 --> 01:13:43,776
them. They're going to kill everybody. And, you know, and

1171
01:13:43,776 --> 01:13:45,716
they think they were right in some respects. But we're

1172
01:13:45,897 --> 01:13:50,920
going to do millennium where it's a convenience. For kids

1173
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,931
to have. And they don't have the responsibility that goes

1174
01:13:54,971 --> 01:13:57,651
along with it. You know, so that's kind of my

1175
01:13:57,691 --> 01:14:01,892
thoughts on there. I think there should be age limits

1176
01:14:01,913 --> 01:14:05,176
for kids, but again. What's the age limit? And how

1177
01:14:05,176 --> 01:14:07,256
do we push everybody off the side? There's times I

1178
01:14:07,277 --> 01:14:10,216
dried my bike around town. I'm right on a sidewalk.

1179
01:14:10,216 --> 01:14:13,336
Cause I sure can get into traffic. So again, I

1180
01:14:13,376 --> 01:14:15,416
know that we're not going to be out there. We're

1181
01:14:15,416 --> 01:14:17,496
not going to have, uh, one of our shares deputies

1182
01:14:17,536 --> 01:14:20,296
on every corner pulling people over. And, um, this helps

1183
01:14:20,317 --> 01:14:23,918
protect us when something goes wrong. Um, but again, it

1184
01:14:23,958 --> 01:14:27,053
doesn't hit the thing. Because if we wait for something

1185
01:14:27,093 --> 01:14:31,053
to go wrong, the near misses are just as important

1186
01:14:31,234 --> 01:14:36,573
in some respects. So, um, I'm in favor if I

1187
01:14:36,613 --> 01:14:39,533
ever eating age restrictions for classes one and two are

1188
01:14:39,573 --> 01:14:42,093
for the class one to two e bikes. Um, as

1189
01:14:42,133 --> 01:14:45,353
far as no raid areas, I agree, pure plaza, the

1190
01:14:45,353 --> 01:14:48,173
pier. People ride bikes up and down the pier all

1191
01:14:48,213 --> 01:14:51,767
the time, uh, plate ground areas. Uh, you know, the

1192
01:14:51,767 --> 01:14:53,627
parks, I'm totally with you. I've ridden my bike through

1193
01:14:53,888 --> 01:14:58,187
veterans park all the time. Um, but again, you know,

1194
01:14:58,187 --> 01:15:01,307
I think the signage is there. And again, most of

1195
01:15:01,307 --> 01:15:02,987
the time kids ride their e - bikes to the

1196
01:15:02,987 --> 01:15:04,907
park, they're not hurting anybody, but there's at least some

1197
01:15:05,088 --> 01:15:08,907
point if we need enforcement that's there. Um, skate park.

1198
01:15:08,907 --> 01:15:13,053
I agree upon. Um, but no, I think that, you

1199
01:15:13,053 --> 01:15:17,153
know, first and foremost, we need to have some larger

1200
01:15:17,254 --> 01:15:22,271
public outreach events. To gather more information. Because again, we're

1201
01:15:22,311 --> 01:15:24,031
looking at, do we, you know, we have to follow

1202
01:15:24,932 --> 01:15:28,751
California vehicle. There's some state laws. There's A. B. 22,

1203
01:15:28,751 --> 01:15:30,271
34 if you want to hop on to. We're going

1204
01:15:30,271 --> 01:15:32,671
to put an ordinance out and change our municipal code.

1205
01:15:32,711 --> 01:15:36,111
There's a lot to unpack. Will it delay in passing

1206
01:15:36,372 --> 01:15:42,335
an ordinance. Have any catastrophic effect? In my opinion, no,

1207
01:15:42,335 --> 01:15:44,735
because it's been, I think, six months since we ate

1208
01:15:44,775 --> 01:15:47,775
seven or eight months since we talked about this originally,

1209
01:15:47,775 --> 01:15:50,175
um, and so if we were to craft it together,

1210
01:15:50,175 --> 01:15:51,295
because I'm with you, I don't know if we always

1211
01:15:51,335 --> 01:15:54,175
have the right answers from the dais. Um, there are

1212
01:15:54,215 --> 01:15:56,975
some very smart community members out there who love to

1213
01:15:57,015 --> 01:16:00,555
share with us their idea. So, um, so, you know,

1214
01:16:00,676 --> 01:16:03,135
again, I think there are some things that we could

1215
01:16:03,156 --> 01:16:05,775
do right away at least get diving it down to

1216
01:16:05,815 --> 01:16:08,635
where, um, staff has given us all this information, but

1217
01:16:08,676 --> 01:16:11,375
I, I think that again, if i were to figure

1218
01:16:11,375 --> 01:16:13,335
out the biggest picture, I think the response fee is

1219
01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:16,175
with the parents and the purchaser of the e -

1220
01:16:16,175 --> 01:16:18,495
bike. And, you know, I don't know if we talked

1221
01:16:18,516 --> 01:16:21,695
parallel representatives and start pushing some type of assembly build

1222
01:16:21,796 --> 01:16:25,535
that requires the education to start from the initial purchase.

1223
01:16:25,535 --> 01:16:28,795
Um, I've never owned a firearm, never bought one, but

1224
01:16:28,795 --> 01:16:30,575
I don't know if there, did they require that when

1225
01:16:30,615 --> 01:16:34,137
you buy a firearm. That you have to have education.

1226
01:16:34,851 --> 01:16:37,850
So, you know, we, we, we look at this. And

1227
01:16:37,850 --> 01:16:41,390
again, we understand the, the gravity of owning a firearm

1228
01:16:41,731 --> 01:16:44,270
and the severity of the actions in the wrong hands

1229
01:16:44,291 --> 01:16:48,170
or even in the right hands with misintended consequences, uh,

1230
01:16:48,291 --> 01:16:51,710
have. So, you know, like I said, I would love

1231
01:16:51,710 --> 01:16:53,790
to find somebody at the state level that we could

1232
01:16:54,531 --> 01:16:56,910
push to get a build playoff. Because I think that's

1233
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:59,888
our best bet. Our best bet is education of the

1234
01:16:59,928 --> 01:17:03,088
parents and the responsibility of holding them accountable and crafting

1235
01:17:03,589 --> 01:17:07,168
language from a legislative point that would hold them ultimately

1236
01:17:07,589 --> 01:17:12,368
countable because you can't just take something that's harmful. Give

1237
01:17:12,368 --> 01:17:14,848
it to your kid and say, well, they have the

1238
01:17:15,029 --> 01:17:17,968
mind of their own. You know, I've had enough kids

1239
01:17:18,008 --> 01:17:20,448
to know that most teenagers don't have much of a

1240
01:17:20,488 --> 01:17:24,208
mind of their own. They're very influence by the group

1241
01:17:24,248 --> 01:17:26,648
of people and what they see on the internet. So

1242
01:17:27,269 --> 01:17:29,979
I'll leave it at that. Great. Thank you for that

1243
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,059
share. And, uh, I did have a question, another question

1244
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,159
for the lieutenant. Um, you know, I think a lot

1245
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:40,699
of the concerns and sort of the driving energy behind

1246
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,779
the age limit has to do with, uh, with fatalities

1247
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,459
and accidents, um, can you give us any kind of

1248
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,459
maybe even just anecdotal conversation about what you've seen in

1249
01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:54,899
the city of Imperial Beach relative to that? Have we

1250
01:17:54,899 --> 01:18:00,139
seen fatalities? Have we seen, um, you know, especially younger

1251
01:18:00,179 --> 01:18:03,499
kids younger than 12, um, involved in accidents that are

1252
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,179
serious that, um, that you guys come across or have

1253
01:18:07,179 --> 01:18:11,259
to call out for, uh, emergency aid? Yeah. I can't

1254
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,539
really speak back to, you know, prior to my assignment

1255
01:18:14,579 --> 01:18:16,859
here, uh, so we're looking at probably about 15, 16

1256
01:18:16,899 --> 01:18:20,179
months since I've been here. I don't recall, I don't

1257
01:18:20,179 --> 01:18:22,939
recall any specific, at least eBike fatality. Certainly we've had

1258
01:18:22,939 --> 01:18:25,899
our share of, you know, accidents that some have been

1259
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,659
serious, some have been minor. Um, but in comparison to

1260
01:18:29,699 --> 01:18:31,499
some of the other jurisdictions that I've heard about, I've

1261
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,259
not seen the volume in some of those jurisdictions. It's

1262
01:18:35,259 --> 01:18:37,659
not to say it doesn't happen here, but it does.

1263
01:18:37,659 --> 01:18:39,659
But I'd have to really dive deeper into some of

1264
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,619
the, those statistics to really get you a solid answer.

1265
01:18:42,619 --> 01:18:45,179
Okay. I was just curious off the top. I know,

1266
01:18:45,179 --> 01:18:47,639
uh, I've read quite a few reports on, you know,

1267
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,099
the spike and emergency room visits and the age is

1268
01:18:53,099 --> 01:18:57,579
affected are sometimes even under 10, um, which is kind

1269
01:18:57,579 --> 01:19:00,059
of shocking that some adult would give a 10 year

1270
01:19:00,059 --> 01:19:01,819
old e - bike or at least allow them to

1271
01:19:01,859 --> 01:19:06,139
use it without, without proper training. Um, I think what

1272
01:19:06,179 --> 01:19:09,259
I'm hearing across the dias here is, um, you know,

1273
01:19:09,259 --> 01:19:12,379
the information, um, even though we've had opportunities to read

1274
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:16,139
it and go through it. I think A. B. 2234,

1275
01:19:16,139 --> 01:19:17,899
um, tried to do a good job. I don't know

1276
01:19:17,939 --> 01:19:21,319
that it's a the best fit for our community. Um,

1277
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,579
I've heard several council members in public speakers talk about

1278
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,939
having a workshop. Um, I think that, that would probably

1279
01:19:28,939 --> 01:19:33,659
be a good idea. Um, and to, uh, thank again,

1280
01:19:33,659 --> 01:19:37,019
Council Member Nakawa, the safe for her survey. I think,

1281
01:19:37,019 --> 01:19:39,739
um, it was a little lopsided from an age point

1282
01:19:39,739 --> 01:19:42,939
of view. And it, it maybe didn't get as many

1283
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,899
users, actual users of e - bikes. And I think

1284
01:19:45,899 --> 01:19:48,699
that's an important segment of the population that we need

1285
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,819
to, you know, pull into this conversation. Um, so I,

1286
01:19:53,819 --> 01:19:56,539
you know, while I think the good stuff in here,

1287
01:19:56,539 --> 01:20:00,699
certainly we need to update our, our municipal codes for,

1288
01:20:00,699 --> 01:20:02,939
you know, reasons that, you know, things of aged out

1289
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,379
and new technologies have come in. Those things certainly need

1290
01:20:06,379 --> 01:20:09,339
to happen. And that could start right away. But I

1291
01:20:09,339 --> 01:20:13,819
think, um, you know, my feeling is, um, you know,

1292
01:20:13,819 --> 01:20:18,539
we need to have more conversation to understand, um, some,

1293
01:20:18,539 --> 01:20:22,779
some of the issues specifically education is a big issue.

1294
01:20:22,779 --> 01:20:25,579
Um, you know, I mean, if we can engage the

1295
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,579
community and maybe even the school district somehow into providing

1296
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:35,179
some kind of educational element, um, to help support whatever

1297
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,179
ordinance as we do end up coming, uh, forward with,

1298
01:20:39,179 --> 01:20:40,859
I think we've been in a much better position as

1299
01:20:40,899 --> 01:20:42,779
opposed to kind of coming down with the big hammer

1300
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,959
and just saying you shall not, you shall not, you

1301
01:20:45,959 --> 01:20:49,979
shall not. Because, you know, in the end, it's not

1302
01:20:50,019 --> 01:20:53,339
the parents, the people who typically read this stuff. It's

1303
01:20:53,339 --> 01:20:56,139
going to be the teenagers, right? Their kids, um, you

1304
01:20:56,139 --> 01:20:58,539
know, let's, let's be real. We don't always have control

1305
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,379
of our, uh, of our youngsters or our teenagers even.

1306
01:21:02,379 --> 01:21:05,259
And so, um, that would be kind of my direction

1307
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,859
to staff at this point. There's a ton of information,

1308
01:21:08,859 --> 01:21:11,419
a lot of good information in here. Um, again, the

1309
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,499
survey, I think is a good start. I think it

1310
01:21:13,539 --> 01:21:17,079
gives us a good kind of a peek into, um,

1311
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,739
the people who are sort of maybe the most motivated

1312
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,339
to provide a response. Like, you know, older people who

1313
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:27,259
are seeing this activity and are, you know, either upset

1314
01:21:27,299 --> 01:21:31,899
or, or disturbed by it. And I think, um, that

1315
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,419
may have initiated a lot of those responses. But again,

1316
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,779
um, back to Council Member Nakawa, they say you had

1317
01:21:38,779 --> 01:21:41,952
a comment. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, one of the

1318
01:21:41,952 --> 01:21:43,812
things I just want to note, uh, cause it's, it

1319
01:21:43,852 --> 01:21:46,272
was brought up in, in terms of written comment, but

1320
01:21:46,272 --> 01:21:49,412
also some of the conversations that I had with constituents.

1321
01:21:49,412 --> 01:21:51,492
Um, and this isn't to make an excuse for us

1322
01:21:51,753 --> 01:21:53,972
not necessarily having the data, but also explaining the concept

1323
01:21:54,012 --> 01:21:57,172
of, uh, not reported data. And so I always like

1324
01:21:57,172 --> 01:21:59,892
to joke that I always hear all of my constituent

1325
01:22:00,073 --> 01:22:03,412
casework from like Facebook. It's not from my official email

1326
01:22:03,452 --> 01:22:07,412
or anything. It's, uh, you know, Hey Modico, uh, there's

1327
01:22:07,433 --> 01:22:09,172
a Paul hole here. Can you have someone go fix

1328
01:22:09,212 --> 01:22:12,292
it? Yeah. Sure. Thanks for the picture. Appreciate it. There's

1329
01:22:12,292 --> 01:22:14,852
so much data that is unreported. And so when I

1330
01:22:14,873 --> 01:22:20,292
see the kids speeding down my, you know, my street,

1331
01:22:20,292 --> 01:22:22,132
my first concept isn't, I'm going to report it to

1332
01:22:22,132 --> 01:22:24,372
the non - emergency line. And so I just want

1333
01:22:24,412 --> 01:22:27,492
us to also see that's a portion of like, I

1334
01:22:27,492 --> 01:22:30,612
think people are asking for local data. There's plenty of

1335
01:22:30,633 --> 01:22:33,652
stuff that is not getting reported, right? Um, also the

1336
01:22:33,673 --> 01:22:36,612
concept of if you look at who's even just emergency

1337
01:22:36,633 --> 01:22:40,252
room spikes, um, unfortunately, uh, when my sister - in

1338
01:22:40,252 --> 01:22:42,612
- law got hurt here in town, they didn't send

1339
01:22:42,652 --> 01:22:44,452
her to somewhere local. They actually took her all the

1340
01:22:44,452 --> 01:22:47,012
way up to like Scripps. And it was so incredibly

1341
01:22:47,113 --> 01:22:49,412
far. And I thought it was weird because there was

1342
01:22:49,452 --> 01:22:51,812
multiple hospitals before then. But that's where she went for

1343
01:22:51,913 --> 01:22:54,452
her emergency room. And so really just trying to also

1344
01:22:54,793 --> 01:22:57,732
remind ourselves in the concept of unreported data and some

1345
01:22:57,732 --> 01:22:59,572
of the stuff that we're not having. Again, I don't

1346
01:22:59,572 --> 01:23:01,532
want to make an excuse for necessary having that. I

1347
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:03,732
think it's just important to discuss as someone that looks

1348
01:23:03,732 --> 01:23:06,212
on the data. And again, when I first saw this,

1349
01:23:06,212 --> 01:23:09,172
I was like, Oh, great. Like nobody that I was

1350
01:23:09,193 --> 01:23:12,052
thinking that the people that I was hoping, which try

1351
01:23:12,393 --> 01:23:14,212
and participate in this little bit more is again, with

1352
01:23:14,212 --> 01:23:16,212
those parents, with some of their families that rides kids

1353
01:23:16,233 --> 01:23:19,312
and everything, we see them all the time during, you

1354
01:23:19,312 --> 01:23:21,812
know, a lot of these, not parades, but like these

1355
01:23:22,233 --> 01:23:25,172
bike, uh, parades and everything. And so that was kind

1356
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:27,812
of the, the group that I was really hoping would

1357
01:23:27,812 --> 01:23:30,052
come up front and speak to this. I'm hoping to

1358
01:23:30,393 --> 01:23:32,532
try and get more people to participate in some way

1359
01:23:32,713 --> 01:23:35,332
and some capacity in that. Because they have more stick

1360
01:23:35,332 --> 01:23:38,052
in the game. They're currently with parents. They have four,

1361
01:23:38,052 --> 01:23:41,092
maybe five, um, eBoy sits in their families, but just

1362
01:23:41,132 --> 01:23:44,132
wanted to note kind of the unreported data, uh, I

1363
01:23:44,132 --> 01:23:47,332
think people are interested in seeing, but it could also

1364
01:23:47,332 --> 01:23:50,612
be in the concept just overall bad data, right? With

1365
01:23:50,612 --> 01:23:52,612
any form of lack of reporting or just the connections

1366
01:23:52,633 --> 01:23:56,452
of seeing where people go and potential HIPAA violations, that's

1367
01:23:56,452 --> 01:23:58,612
just something that we might not be seeing either. Thank

1368
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:00,932
you. Gotcha. Great. Um, I did have one of the

1369
01:24:00,972 --> 01:24:06,612
questions for Lieutenant Galley. Is there currently an eBay sales

1370
01:24:07,193 --> 01:24:09,572
or a vendor here in City of Imperial Beach anymore?

1371
01:24:09,612 --> 01:24:12,292
I know there was rad bikes or e - rad

1372
01:24:12,393 --> 01:24:17,412
bikes. I think they're movie. Okay. Okay. I was just

1373
01:24:17,412 --> 01:24:18,852
trying to think of maybe there was another source of

1374
01:24:18,953 --> 01:24:22,532
data that we could mine. Um, you know, whether it

1375
01:24:22,532 --> 01:24:24,212
be sale. I mean, obviously they can't give away personal

1376
01:24:24,233 --> 01:24:27,972
information, but, um, another place where we can go to

1377
01:24:28,553 --> 01:24:31,332
try to draw out that crowd that we're not seemingly.

1378
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,106
I'd be back shut down. Okay. All right. Thank you,

1379
01:24:36,106 --> 01:24:38,672
sir. All right. I think it would be good to

1380
01:24:38,693 --> 01:24:42,992
somehow reach out to the high school district. Sweet water

1381
01:24:43,032 --> 01:24:44,272
and see if they would be able to help us

1382
01:24:44,312 --> 01:24:48,272
participate. Maybe pass long surveys. Obviously, you know, they, the

1383
01:24:48,272 --> 01:24:52,512
majority of people were talking about crafting something for probably

1384
01:24:52,613 --> 01:24:55,512
attend their schools and to see their insight. Cause I

1385
01:24:55,512 --> 01:24:58,323
think having the ballots of seeing what they're seeing. Um,

1386
01:24:58,504 --> 01:25:02,111
is important. Um, and hopefully their high school brain hasn't

1387
01:25:03,092 --> 01:25:07,310
just mushed out for them completely. If you offer free

1388
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:10,590
food, they will come. Free pizza. Just saying. Free pizza

1389
01:25:11,091 --> 01:25:19,076
and monster drinks. All right. Um, I guess City Manager

1390
01:25:19,497 --> 01:25:22,756
Tyler Foltz. Do you feel like you have enough direction

1391
01:25:23,097 --> 01:25:28,676
or are we still looking for, um, more specificity? I

1392
01:25:28,676 --> 01:25:31,236
think we're good. Obviously. We needed to get more input

1393
01:25:31,257 --> 01:25:34,436
from the community. From, you mentioned the high school district.

1394
01:25:34,436 --> 01:25:36,656
We had met with the elementary school district too. But

1395
01:25:36,697 --> 01:25:39,316
we'll meet with them as well and consider ideas about

1396
01:25:39,356 --> 01:25:41,556
how to get more input from the community before we

1397
01:25:41,577 --> 01:25:46,276
come back to the council with additional recommendations. Okay. Sorry.

1398
01:25:46,276 --> 01:25:48,756
I think just in terms of those additional recommendations, because

1399
01:25:48,756 --> 01:25:55,076
I know people don't like nebulous, um, concepts or whatnot

1400
01:25:55,417 --> 01:25:58,836
is just maybe setting expectations of, of the timeline for

1401
01:25:58,836 --> 01:26:01,236
this. I think we'll also just be beneficial saying like,

1402
01:26:01,236 --> 01:26:03,556
Hey, this is one we're going to try. I know

1403
01:26:03,556 --> 01:26:06,676
we got to be flexible. You guys are incredibly busy.

1404
01:26:06,676 --> 01:26:08,996
Obviously running a city. So just, but I think any

1405
01:26:09,036 --> 01:26:12,996
terms of where we can be, um, explaining the concept

1406
01:26:13,017 --> 01:26:15,156
of a timeline and whatnot. I think we'll also be

1407
01:26:15,156 --> 01:26:18,256
beneficial for people. Cause then they can hopefully plan, uh,

1408
01:26:18,537 --> 01:26:21,556
to participate hopefully in some way or attend in anything.

1409
01:26:21,556 --> 01:26:23,476
I think we'll also be beneficial in terms of the

1410
01:26:23,817 --> 01:26:27,166
whenever we come back to council. Yeah. And I was

1411
01:26:27,166 --> 01:26:29,646
also going to mention, uh, when the lieutenant and I

1412
01:26:29,646 --> 01:26:33,166
have, our quarterly meeting in the community, we could certainly

1413
01:26:33,267 --> 01:26:37,166
bring that up as another topic. And, you know, request

1414
01:26:37,206 --> 01:26:40,446
feedback as opposed to waiting for someone to mention it

1415
01:26:40,486 --> 01:26:43,486
to us. Um, try to draw out some information and

1416
01:26:43,507 --> 01:26:48,926
some, uh, some community sort of, uh, feelings. All right.

1417
01:26:50,209 --> 01:26:52,508
All right. Anything else do we need to do on

1418
01:26:52,508 --> 01:26:59,838
this item? No? Okay. We are going to take a

1419
01:26:59,838 --> 01:27:04,558
10 minute recess. We're awaiting a special guest speaker coming

1420
01:27:04,579 --> 01:27:06,798
in from Chula Vista. So if you'll excuse this for

1421
01:27:06,838 --> 01:27:10,558
about 10 minutes, uh, we'll reconvene and move on with

1422
01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:11,918
our last couple of items. Thank you.

1423
01:38:06,333 --> 01:38:08,152
I don't have to gamble back. You can just call

1424
01:38:08,152 --> 01:38:10,881
back the. All right. We're going to come back to

1425
01:38:10,902 --> 01:38:14,241
order right now. Please take your seats. And if we

1426
01:38:14,241 --> 01:38:17,201
can close the back doors and we'll move on with

1427
01:38:17,241 --> 01:38:22,811
our last two items on our agenda this evening. Item

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01:38:23,632 --> 01:38:29,211
15B, or consideration of a memorandum of understanding with the

1429
01:38:29,251 --> 01:38:35,131
city of ChulaVista for Feathery Federal Legislative Advocacy Services related

1430
01:38:35,131 --> 01:38:41,211
to the Tijuana River Valley cross - border pollution crisis,

1431
01:38:41,211 --> 01:38:46,984
CAO - Cortez Martinez will present this item. Thank you.

1432
01:38:49,065 --> 01:38:55,568
Good evening, Mayor Council, Jale Cortes Martinez. This item is

1433
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:59,728
an MOU with the City of Cholovista for federal legislative

1434
01:39:00,069 --> 01:39:04,288
advocacy service related to the Tijuana River Valley Cross Border

1435
01:39:04,288 --> 01:39:09,440
Pollution. So just a little bit of background. I know

1436
01:39:09,621 --> 01:39:12,880
everybody knows and is aware of that. We have a

1437
01:39:12,981 --> 01:39:19,280
sewage crisis. Imperial Beach specifically is the primary affected area

1438
01:39:20,181 --> 01:39:24,160
with these contaminated cross - border flows reaching the two

1439
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,720
- one from the Tijuana River into our Pacific Ocean,

1440
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,640
which is also costing our beach closures for nearly more

1441
01:39:30,661 --> 01:39:35,902
than five years. It's impacting public health, you know, obviously

1442
01:39:35,902 --> 01:39:42,882
water quality and economic situations. Our businesses and quality of

1443
01:39:43,063 --> 01:39:46,562
life are residents. And that visit Imperial Beach as well.

1444
01:39:49,843 --> 01:39:52,702
We all acknowledge that these are long - term solutions

1445
01:39:52,702 --> 01:39:55,502
that are required. Some of them have been set in

1446
01:39:55,502 --> 01:40:03,102
place. Specifically responsibility with the federal government funding infrastructure and

1447
01:40:03,142 --> 01:40:09,022
investments, policy and legislation. And then obviously some coronation with

1448
01:40:09,062 --> 01:40:15,742
Mexico as well. Imperial Beach does not have a state

1449
01:40:15,763 --> 01:40:19,582
or federal lobbyist. And so we feel that it's important

1450
01:40:19,763 --> 01:40:24,542
for federal presence that is specifically focused on the Tijuana

1451
01:40:24,723 --> 01:40:29,929
River crisis at the federal level. Before I get into

1452
01:40:29,950 --> 01:40:33,769
the partnership with related to this MOU, I wanted to

1453
01:40:33,769 --> 01:40:36,569
give you a little bit of background. It is not

1454
01:40:36,910 --> 01:40:39,849
uncommon for the City of Cholobus and Imperial Beach to

1455
01:40:39,889 --> 01:40:45,289
partner for many years. We've partnered on various matters, beginning

1456
01:40:45,289 --> 01:40:49,836
with the animal control contract. They've accepted our partnership for

1457
01:40:50,017 --> 01:40:55,276
multiple contracts on several occasions. And we thank them for

1458
01:40:55,276 --> 01:41:00,716
that. Just a few years ago, chill of awesome Imperial

1459
01:41:00,716 --> 01:41:07,196
Beach for staffing for their EMT, for REMTs, for their

1460
01:41:07,217 --> 01:41:11,496
facility when they just had open their ambulance services. And

1461
01:41:11,496 --> 01:41:16,476
now Imperial Beach is also in discussions with their staff

1462
01:41:17,057 --> 01:41:21,836
to have mutual agreement also on staffing levels for the

1463
01:41:21,857 --> 01:41:26,956
fire department at all levels, just given the facts that,

1464
01:41:26,956 --> 01:41:30,716
you know, recruitments at all CityWILL levels are difficult. So

1465
01:41:30,897 --> 01:41:32,236
I just wanted to give you a little bit of

1466
01:41:32,276 --> 01:41:36,116
background that it's not uncommon for agencies to partner. As

1467
01:41:36,116 --> 01:41:39,576
we have also partner in the past with Chulavista, the

1468
01:41:39,576 --> 01:41:44,776
port, Coronado, and similar advocacy when it comes to the

1469
01:41:44,977 --> 01:41:50,334
Tijuana River Valley many years ago. This particular item, though,

1470
01:41:50,355 --> 01:41:55,054
it's not recent. This has been in discussion with them

1471
01:41:55,235 --> 01:42:00,174
for the last two years or more. It began with

1472
01:42:00,755 --> 01:42:06,254
Mammacan, who is present here tonight and former Mayor Aguirre

1473
01:42:07,235 --> 01:42:10,974
currently supervisor, a yearA for the county. And the discussion

1474
01:42:11,235 --> 01:42:17,349
continued, obviously, with our current mayor, Mayor McKay. There is

1475
01:42:17,530 --> 01:42:22,869
a timeline that Chilibusa wanted to follow because they had

1476
01:42:25,050 --> 01:42:30,069
a state legislation or lobbyist, but their timeline of their

1477
01:42:30,170 --> 01:42:33,829
contract is about to expire Gene 30th. There were also

1478
01:42:34,250 --> 01:42:36,869
interested in having a federal lobbyist, which they currently don't

1479
01:42:36,890 --> 01:42:41,829
have. So the timeline had to kind of lined up.

1480
01:42:41,829 --> 01:42:46,229
And so that is why there was a little delay,

1481
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:49,909
but the discussions and the partnership as far as the

1482
01:42:50,170 --> 01:42:54,869
priorities on the RFP and the scope of work maintained

1483
01:42:54,970 --> 01:43:00,330
within the last two years. So I do want to

1484
01:43:00,551 --> 01:43:04,930
thank staff or Chila Vista specifically for always working with

1485
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:07,810
Imperial Beach and having check - in regular check -

1486
01:43:07,810 --> 01:43:11,170
ins with staff, because, um, we wanted to keep that

1487
01:43:11,170 --> 01:43:15,090
momentum and for them to understand that this is still

1488
01:43:15,090 --> 01:43:18,210
a priority for Imperial Beach. And I know both mayor,

1489
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:22,370
me and McCann and Mayor McKay also continue that dialogue.

1490
01:43:22,391 --> 01:43:28,286
Um, so with that said. Tchilavista did proceed to provide

1491
01:43:28,326 --> 01:43:34,446
a comprehensive procurement for the federal lobbyist, including their state.

1492
01:43:34,446 --> 01:43:36,766
That is not part of this equation. This is just

1493
01:43:36,806 --> 01:43:41,240
for the federal lobbyists. They receive a total of five

1494
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:46,656
proposals. Uh, we, staff of Imperial Beach along with other

1495
01:43:46,757 --> 01:43:52,096
staff from Chula Vista appointed both by both city managers.

1496
01:43:52,096 --> 01:43:55,036
We're part of the process. They review the proposals, the

1497
01:43:55,036 --> 01:43:58,336
review of the RFP. We sat in the evaluation and

1498
01:43:58,336 --> 01:44:01,791
the interview process. We then, um, were appointed by them

1499
01:44:02,212 --> 01:44:06,431
to come forward with the recommendation and both parties agreed

1500
01:44:06,471 --> 01:44:12,431
to, uh, select thorn run partners TRP to be the

1501
01:44:12,692 --> 01:44:18,431
federal advocacy firm for Imperial Beach and Cholevista. Again, TILA

1502
01:44:18,431 --> 01:44:25,067
Vista's having their own comprehensive legislative platform. And as part

1503
01:44:25,067 --> 01:44:28,747
of the RFP, they added a component related to the

1504
01:44:29,008 --> 01:44:33,467
Tijuana River. It was a separate response separate cost. So

1505
01:44:33,728 --> 01:44:39,227
they are going to hopefully consider their argument with TRP

1506
01:44:39,888 --> 01:44:43,107
at a future meeting. Um, I believe this month, if

1507
01:44:43,107 --> 01:44:47,547
I'm not mistaken, but this particular MOU is the partnership

1508
01:44:47,648 --> 01:44:52,267
between TILA Vista and Imperial Beach to enter into that

1509
01:44:52,768 --> 01:44:57,867
additional scope and reimbursement to the City of Cholevista for

1510
01:44:57,888 --> 01:45:04,251
these services. So this MOU does allow for Imperial Beach

1511
01:45:04,291 --> 01:45:08,954
to leverage this opportunity. With the agreement that they're going

1512
01:45:08,954 --> 01:45:14,225
to host with TRP. Uh, that gives us the opportunity

1513
01:45:14,265 --> 01:45:18,065
to provide federal priorities related to the Tijuana River Pollution

1514
01:45:18,166 --> 01:45:21,985
crisis. And obviously Chile Vista will be the lead agency

1515
01:45:22,566 --> 01:45:27,025
in partnership and Imperial Beach and ongoing communication and meetings

1516
01:45:27,065 --> 01:45:32,459
and discussions. So instead of each agency having their own,

1517
01:45:32,459 --> 01:45:37,339
um, representative DC, we felt like it would be more

1518
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,699
advantageous to have a coordinated regional voice together in DC.

1519
01:45:43,904 --> 01:45:49,690
Since we are neighboring cities. The scope of service, I'm

1520
01:45:49,690 --> 01:45:51,870
not going to read all of these bullets, but there's

1521
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:56,910
the federal advocacy services. What there are going to help

1522
01:45:57,411 --> 01:46:03,950
both parties. And then obviously the, uh, priorities that have

1523
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:07,390
been indicated in the RFP. So one of the things

1524
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:10,110
that I don't want to highlight is that they are

1525
01:46:10,291 --> 01:46:14,110
required to provide updates to both city councils. So Imperial

1526
01:46:14,110 --> 01:46:17,816
Beach and also Chill of Esta as well. The cost

1527
01:46:18,717 --> 01:46:22,136
for the first year, uh, which will begin, hopefully approximately

1528
01:46:22,317 --> 01:46:25,736
in September, um, so we're talking about 10 months. It's

1529
01:46:26,157 --> 01:46:29,336
a thousand dollars a month for Imperial Beach. That's approximately

1530
01:46:29,437 --> 01:46:31,896
10, 000 through the end of June 30th. That's for

1531
01:46:31,896 --> 01:46:36,954
the first year. Um, this is funding that already exists

1532
01:46:37,215 --> 01:46:41,034
through our operating budget, specifically in the city manager's budget

1533
01:46:41,215 --> 01:46:45,674
and the contingency account. Again, those contigenic accounts are set

1534
01:46:45,695 --> 01:46:49,514
aside for these type of emergencies or priorities. And it

1535
01:46:49,554 --> 01:46:53,674
is at the discretion and authority under the city manager's

1536
01:46:53,674 --> 01:46:57,840
level as well. Future extensions will require both parties to

1537
01:46:57,941 --> 01:47:02,244
agree on them as well. Um, there is a typo

1538
01:47:02,244 --> 01:47:05,524
on the actually staff report on year three. The agreement

1539
01:47:05,625 --> 01:47:09,924
actually extends to 231, 2031. So I just wanted to

1540
01:47:09,924 --> 01:47:12,404
make that correction. The dates that you see on the

1541
01:47:12,404 --> 01:47:17,684
screen are correct. There is a minor increase year after

1542
01:47:17,724 --> 01:47:20,644
year. So you'll see that it goes up from 100

1543
01:47:20,985 --> 01:47:28,004
to 1050. Stays 1050, then 1125. And then, um, 1200.

1544
01:47:28,004 --> 01:47:32,724
So, um, with that said, there's a contract that is

1545
01:47:32,764 --> 01:47:36,884
being proposed for five years. Um, again, overall the entire

1546
01:47:37,145 --> 01:47:42,324
agreement. It's on or about approximately 65, 000 dollars Now,

1547
01:47:42,324 --> 01:47:46,724
this does not include tribal expenses, but you know, we're

1548
01:47:46,724 --> 01:47:50,864
in modern years. Everything can be done electronically. So, uh,

1549
01:47:50,864 --> 01:47:54,484
I think mainly it would be our cost traveling to

1550
01:47:54,585 --> 01:48:00,524
DC with them coordinating all the meetings and representing. I

1551
01:48:00,524 --> 01:48:04,164
view that as us traveling more over there than them

1552
01:48:04,204 --> 01:48:06,884
over here. But again, they are open for that as

1553
01:48:06,884 --> 01:48:13,549
well. Now the termination, like 30 days, 60 day, 90

1554
01:48:13,589 --> 01:48:18,138
day. What happens as I explained earlier. TRP in chillavistar

1555
01:48:18,319 --> 01:48:21,498
entering to an agreement for such service as part of

1556
01:48:21,498 --> 01:48:26,298
the component, that MOU, it's agreed that TRP will provide

1557
01:48:26,559 --> 01:48:31,738
the service to imperial beach through chillovista. So at any

1558
01:48:31,778 --> 01:48:34,858
point, if there wanted to be a termination of service

1559
01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:38,858
that is an arrangement that Chula Vista will have with

1560
01:48:38,898 --> 01:48:43,418
TRP and obviously will require an amendment of the MOU.

1561
01:48:43,418 --> 01:48:50,050
But it's allowable. There's just like no specific timeline. So

1562
01:48:50,311 --> 01:48:57,650
tonight City staff is recommending adopting resolution 2026, 83, which

1563
01:48:57,911 --> 01:49:03,170
approves memorandum of understanding what Chelo Vista and Imperial Beach

1564
01:49:03,751 --> 01:49:08,050
establishing partnership for federal legislative advocacy related to the Tuhana

1565
01:49:08,090 --> 01:49:12,490
River pollution. And I just wanted to say that obviously

1566
01:49:12,591 --> 01:49:15,290
Mayor McConnell is here. And then, uh, members of his

1567
01:49:15,330 --> 01:49:18,890
staff as well in the event that there's any questions.

1568
01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:21,450
With that, it includes my presentation and available for questions.

1569
01:49:21,951 --> 01:49:27,050
Great. Thank you, CAO Martinez, Gortez Martinez. I appreciate the

1570
01:49:27,071 --> 01:49:29,450
detail that you provided there. I did want to announce

1571
01:49:29,490 --> 01:49:34,490
that we did receive, uh, correspondence written correspondence from Sandy

1572
01:49:34,511 --> 01:49:37,370
Bilhart on this item. And that was made available to

1573
01:49:37,471 --> 01:49:40,890
the Council members and the public in the back should

1574
01:49:40,890 --> 01:49:44,410
you wish to read it. Um, I do have two

1575
01:49:44,410 --> 01:49:49,450
public speaker cards. If I can give some professional courtesy,

1576
01:49:49,450 --> 01:49:53,130
I would like to, uh, ask Mr. Mayor John McCann

1577
01:49:53,231 --> 01:49:55,830
if he would be willing to speak first. And, uh,

1578
01:49:56,031 --> 01:49:59,370
we'll give you your three minutes and maybe some extra.

1579
01:50:00,136 --> 01:50:03,235
So welcome. We thank you for coming out this evening,

1580
01:50:03,235 --> 01:50:07,517
Mayor McCann. Thank you very much. I'm a mayor John

1581
01:50:07,538 --> 01:50:10,237
McCann from the City of Chula Vista. I very much

1582
01:50:10,277 --> 01:50:14,077
appreciate the opportunity to be here. And we have a

1583
01:50:14,117 --> 01:50:21,037
tradition of working together as a region. Uh, as the

1584
01:50:21,077 --> 01:50:25,037
administrator told, talked about, um, we actually went back to

1585
01:50:25,138 --> 01:50:29,037
Washington, DC on the TWNA sewer issue, uh, back then

1586
01:50:29,077 --> 01:50:34,397
when, uh, was, uh, Mayor McGurry. And I remember the

1587
01:50:34,397 --> 01:50:35,997
city manager was there. And I thought we were very

1588
01:50:36,178 --> 01:50:39,357
effective working together. Um, and I want to thank you

1589
01:50:39,458 --> 01:50:44,477
for your consideration on this memorandum understanding, um, to partner

1590
01:50:45,058 --> 01:50:53,197
on federal legislative C, uh, services that it relates to

1591
01:50:53,538 --> 01:50:57,277
the ongoing sewer crisis, uh, for decades. The residents of

1592
01:50:57,618 --> 01:51:01,117
South County, especially the residents of Imperial Beach have had

1593
01:51:01,138 --> 01:51:05,117
to live with beach closers, environmental damage and public health

1594
01:51:05,298 --> 01:51:09,397
impacts related to TIWN Assor crisis. Um, I'm going to

1595
01:51:09,538 --> 01:51:14,957
tell you that I grew up in Chilevista lifelong residence.

1596
01:51:14,957 --> 01:51:18,877
And I go back so long ago, uh, that my

1597
01:51:18,898 --> 01:51:23,997
best friend's father was actually an imperial beach police officer,

1598
01:51:23,997 --> 01:51:27,037
uh, before you guys went to the county. And every

1599
01:51:27,077 --> 01:51:28,877
once in a while we try to code to Imperial

1600
01:51:28,877 --> 01:51:31,197
Beach and even back then sometimes the beach would be

1601
01:51:31,298 --> 01:51:36,317
closed because of the sewer issues. Chula Vista recognizes that

1602
01:51:36,418 --> 01:51:41,037
this is a regional problem and demands a regional voice.

1603
01:51:41,037 --> 01:51:43,757
And that's where we can work together and make sure

1604
01:51:43,858 --> 01:51:47,997
that we're fighting together because we all care about what

1605
01:51:48,098 --> 01:51:52,637
is going on. The sewage crisis does not stop at

1606
01:51:52,677 --> 01:51:57,677
the City boundaries. This agreement builds a successful collaboration between

1607
01:51:58,018 --> 01:52:03,357
the cities. In 2018, Chula Vista joined Imperial Beach and

1608
01:52:03,397 --> 01:52:06,557
the port of San Diego in a federal lawsuit against

1609
01:52:06,658 --> 01:52:11,037
the International Boundary and Water Commission that resulted in a

1610
01:52:11,077 --> 01:52:15,917
comprehensive settlement. So we have been a good partner. Additionally,

1611
01:52:15,957 --> 01:52:18,957
the City of Chulavista has long tradition of leadership and

1612
01:52:18,957 --> 01:52:25,295
sustainability, environmental action. So this partnership before us by sharing

1613
01:52:25,956 --> 01:52:33,375
federal legislative agacy services are leveraging resources. And we can

1614
01:52:33,375 --> 01:52:38,975
better coordinate priorities engage federal decision makers and the pursuit.

1615
01:52:38,975 --> 01:52:43,375
The resources needed to accelerate the long - term solutions.

1616
01:52:43,636 --> 01:52:47,615
We're advocating for accountability and urgency our residents deserve clean

1617
01:52:47,655 --> 01:52:52,735
air, clean water, and safe beaches. Um, so I'm really

1618
01:52:52,916 --> 01:52:58,075
appreciate everybody's consideration on this, um, together we're stronger. And

1619
01:52:58,075 --> 01:53:01,615
we all agree that we all want safe water, safe

1620
01:53:01,655 --> 01:53:05,215
air. And I'm also available for any questions, um, as

1621
01:53:05,255 --> 01:53:07,295
well as I have staff here to answer any questions

1622
01:53:07,316 --> 01:53:10,262
if you do. Great. Thank you, Mayor McCann. We do

1623
01:53:10,262 --> 01:53:12,822
have one other speaker. And so, um, if we, if

1624
01:53:12,822 --> 01:53:15,682
we do have some questions during, uh, the council, uh,

1625
01:53:16,843 --> 01:53:21,142
consultation will certainly, uh, make you available to us. Um,

1626
01:53:21,163 --> 01:53:25,422
next speaker I have is, uh, uh, Lynn Fisher. So

1627
01:53:25,422 --> 01:53:31,359
Lynn, if you can come forward. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor.

1628
01:53:32,732 --> 01:53:35,191
Um, as I said earlier, I am a retired government

1629
01:53:35,292 --> 01:53:39,396
analyst. So I can tell you from experience item 15A

1630
01:53:39,436 --> 01:53:44,459
is bad for IB. It's a duplication of effort and

1631
01:53:44,459 --> 01:53:49,513
thus wasteful. These are things I'm trained to notice. First,

1632
01:53:50,094 --> 01:53:52,873
the Citizens by B hired you our own counsel to

1633
01:53:52,894 --> 01:53:57,753
provide advocate services. Just like other councils before, we send

1634
01:53:57,774 --> 01:54:03,662
you our counsel to Sacramento or DC when needed. The

1635
01:54:03,843 --> 01:54:06,222
citizens of IB do not need to help pay the

1636
01:54:06,323 --> 01:54:09,982
salary of someone already hired by Julevista that is doing

1637
01:54:10,083 --> 01:54:14,875
legislative work from TULIVISTA. This is a very poor use

1638
01:54:14,976 --> 01:54:20,092
of IB's financial resources. When we have other critical budget

1639
01:54:20,092 --> 01:54:23,717
issues facing our residents. I don't care where you say

1640
01:54:23,757 --> 01:54:26,437
the funds currently sit. If you say the room in

1641
01:54:26,437 --> 01:54:30,157
the City manager's budget, these funds belong in I. B.

1642
01:54:30,778 --> 01:54:34,525
not paying a two ofistic contract salary. Not to mention

1643
01:54:34,706 --> 01:54:38,365
IBNTivista are not the only affected cities in the South

1644
01:54:38,365 --> 01:54:44,499
Bay. In addition and very importantly, the county already pays

1645
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:48,419
a very well - known legislative firm that is currently

1646
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,339
working these sewage issue in Washington on behalf of the

1647
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,397
entire Southpay. So why would we do this. And San

1648
01:54:57,437 --> 01:55:01,866
Diego. So this proposed expense is a duplicative and wasteful

1649
01:55:03,167 --> 01:55:07,373
MOU. Please do not vote this in. It is not

1650
01:55:07,474 --> 01:55:12,443
in the best interest of I. residence. Thank you. Thank

1651
01:55:12,443 --> 01:55:17,274
you for your comments. All right. Let's move on to

1652
01:55:17,615 --> 01:55:22,054
staff discussion. I'll first wrecking. We have a. Oh, I'm

1653
01:55:22,054 --> 01:55:25,553
sorry. We have an online speaker. I'm sorry. Please, please

1654
01:55:25,593 --> 01:55:29,773
proceed. Um, we do have truth available to speak. Um,

1655
01:55:29,773 --> 01:55:34,834
please begin. You have three minutes truth. Well, thank you

1656
01:55:34,874 --> 01:55:38,914
so much for that. Um, for the record, I timed

1657
01:55:38,914 --> 01:55:41,874
it and John spokes for less than three minutes. I

1658
01:55:41,895 --> 01:55:44,274
was not trained to notice that. I'm just experienced on

1659
01:55:44,295 --> 01:55:49,748
these things. I find this an interesting proposition on advocacy,

1660
01:55:49,748 --> 01:55:52,148
which is indeed a difficult word. Thorn run is definitely

1661
01:55:52,169 --> 01:55:55,988
a giant lobbying firm with over 200 clients. So, and

1662
01:55:56,028 --> 01:55:58,228
it also looks like they have federal connections, which is

1663
01:55:58,249 --> 01:56:01,828
really, really important. Uh, I'm actually really happy to see

1664
01:56:01,929 --> 01:56:04,388
this MOU because it's been bothered me for a very

1665
01:56:04,428 --> 01:56:06,708
long time that I. B. doesn't have a law being

1666
01:56:06,729 --> 01:56:09,656
firm like Cornado does. Uh, if you were going to

1667
01:56:09,656 --> 01:56:11,776
talk about duplication, well then you could have made the

1668
01:56:11,877 --> 01:56:13,936
coronado argument. That would have made a lot more sense.

1669
01:56:14,875 --> 01:56:19,174
I have shared my thought on this lassi duplication necessary

1670
01:56:19,195 --> 01:56:23,094
duplication, uh, with so many people, even recently telling someone

1671
01:56:23,355 --> 01:56:26,454
that if it wasn't for coronado making their legal investment,

1672
01:56:26,795 --> 01:56:29,334
there's so much that wouldness happen for I. B. regarding

1673
01:56:29,835 --> 01:56:34,454
sewage solutions. POM 100 percent of this opportunity that the

1674
01:56:34,475 --> 01:56:38,214
city of CLISTA is very graciously offering. It is a

1675
01:56:38,254 --> 01:56:42,854
wonderful contribution from Chula Vista to helping to finally stop

1676
01:56:42,955 --> 01:56:47,734
the sewage coming 100 percent for Mexico as Mr. Joan

1677
01:56:47,734 --> 01:56:51,014
Duncan has said that has been negatively impacting the entire

1678
01:56:51,595 --> 01:56:55,574
South Day, especially at this time when SanDeg is planning

1679
01:56:55,614 --> 01:56:59,414
another border crossing that will increase development thereby increasing the

1680
01:56:59,595 --> 01:57:03,494
traffic in sewage pollution coming from the main bid and

1681
01:57:03,534 --> 01:57:08,128
fitter Mexico, which is also the main offender. This is

1682
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:12,048
a critical time. There is no more time where unity

1683
01:57:12,088 --> 01:57:15,651
is needed than right now. So I am grateful to

1684
01:57:15,691 --> 01:57:18,291
those that made this opportunity happen for the benefit of

1685
01:57:18,291 --> 01:57:21,971
the entire South Bay, not making this investment outside of

1686
01:57:21,992 --> 01:57:24,051
IB. I mean, there may not be an IV in

1687
01:57:24,051 --> 01:57:27,989
the future. And that is not anything to risk. This

1688
01:57:28,010 --> 01:57:31,269
is a time you need to take advantage of this

1689
01:57:31,309 --> 01:57:33,989
type of opportunity and other types of opportunities that come

1690
01:57:33,989 --> 01:57:36,309
up. Because a thousand bucks, that is nothing out of

1691
01:57:36,330 --> 01:57:39,349
the budget. Let's be real. That is a wise investment

1692
01:57:39,770 --> 01:57:43,770
for future. Thank you. And thank you for your comments.

1693
01:57:44,798 --> 01:57:47,497
We're going to move on to City Council discussion and

1694
01:57:47,537 --> 01:57:52,000
I'll recognize Councilmember NakaUada State first. Thank you, Mayor. I

1695
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,320
just wanted to highlight some, uh, just my personal experience

1696
01:57:54,501 --> 01:57:56,640
in terms of lobbying for the city earlier this year

1697
01:57:56,741 --> 01:58:00,160
in Washington, D. C. and just really think, um, if

1698
01:58:00,181 --> 01:58:02,160
we didn't have the relationships that we had with the

1699
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,040
port, uh, any of those meetings, all that great data,

1700
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,120
those relationships we started building out, the report out that

1701
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:10,240
you guys all heard were not going to happen because

1702
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,440
we didn't have those lobbying relationships. And so for me,

1703
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,120
when I, when I first heard this, I was like,

1704
01:58:15,301 --> 01:58:18,240
Oh no, like another lobbyist, another person outside of the

1705
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,120
city. And I started advocating for it. Um, I was

1706
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,040
really a fortunate to hear that part of the scope

1707
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,880
of work again is that report out to the city

1708
01:58:24,981 --> 01:58:27,660
to see if it's actually really beneficial for us. And

1709
01:58:27,701 --> 01:58:30,240
my favorite saying of trust, but verify, I think is

1710
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,420
really important. I would really hope that the port, um,

1711
01:58:34,421 --> 01:58:37,280
in regards to this also helps us in stepping up

1712
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,600
and building up our lobbying activities. I think it's really

1713
01:58:39,781 --> 01:58:43,280
fruitful. Um, again, every time a meeting got canceled, like

1714
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,600
there was a meeting at the concept that was established.

1715
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,760
And they're like, Hey, that's not happening. I remember looking

1716
01:58:48,341 --> 01:58:50,240
with director helmer and I'm saying, okay, so who can

1717
01:58:50,261 --> 01:58:52,240
we meet with next? Because we didn't fly all the

1718
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:54,160
way out to DC to not have meetings and not

1719
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:58,540
have conversations. And those established relationships are really good. And

1720
01:58:58,581 --> 01:59:00,800
obviously for full in regards to getting us, I know

1721
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:04,000
that we all hear on this DIS have, um, have

1722
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,480
other jobs, other stuff we're got. We have going on.

1723
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:10,780
It's hard to consistently advocate and being that squeakywhel. And

1724
01:59:10,780 --> 01:59:13,720
it would be beneficial in any capacity for us to

1725
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:17,840
keep having the continuation of these conversations. If we're constantly

1726
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,320
in front of them, if we're advocating for them, again,

1727
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:24,220
a lot of my conversations, I think in DC, uh,

1728
01:59:24,581 --> 01:59:26,480
you know, everyone kind of gets lost in the numbers,

1729
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,480
but was again, what was really important was like the

1730
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,820
emotional stories, right? The stories about, um, our military, our

1731
01:59:31,941 --> 01:59:35,080
families, um, you know, military personnel not being able to

1732
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:39,040
train here anymore, border patrol boots melting children who live

1733
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,600
here, who have never gotten to experience this beach at

1734
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,920
all. Those were the stories, in my opinion, that moved

1735
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,560
people in those rooms. That was really my personal experience

1736
01:59:46,661 --> 01:59:48,800
in terms of lobbying in DC. And so I'm, I'm

1737
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,720
really, you know, for this kind of concept. I know

1738
01:59:53,221 --> 01:59:57,280
in regards to the county federal lobbyist, I would love

1739
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:01,200
to be invited to any county discussions, press releases or

1740
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,520
anything. As I've asked, like, Hey, I would love to

1741
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:05,520
be in support of this or whenever we have any

1742
02:00:05,621 --> 02:00:08,160
press conferences or anything. Would love to be invited as

1743
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:11,280
well and be part of that conversation. Um, since appointment,

1744
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,280
I haven't. So that would be something I would be

1745
02:00:13,381 --> 02:00:16,591
interested in as well. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you

1746
02:00:16,631 --> 02:00:23,310
for those comments and observations. Mayor ProTEM. Thanks, Mayor. No,

1747
02:00:23,310 --> 02:00:25,390
I think this really is a good thing for us.

1748
02:00:26,287 --> 02:00:28,586
You know, I've been to DC and it really is

1749
02:00:28,607 --> 02:00:32,106
all about the relationships that are had. It has nothing.

1750
02:00:32,447 --> 02:00:35,226
If everything in Washington was only based on need, this

1751
02:00:35,226 --> 02:00:39,159
problem would have fixed decades ago. Absolutely without a shout

1752
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:42,999
out. There's no other thing in this country. This is

1753
02:00:42,999 --> 02:00:46,039
devastating as this. You know, I understand that we see

1754
02:00:46,540 --> 02:00:51,059
the travesties that happen when we have natural disasters. You

1755
02:00:51,059 --> 02:00:53,319
know, I saw some video from Hawaii and it's unbelievable

1756
02:00:54,140 --> 02:00:56,439
what has happened to that state. Um, and they throw

1757
02:00:56,479 --> 02:00:59,799
every resource they possibly can so that people can sustain

1758
02:00:59,839 --> 02:01:03,399
their lives and rebuild. You know, we've been fortunate they

1759
02:01:03,399 --> 02:01:06,359
just eroded away our quality of life over the last

1760
02:01:06,380 --> 02:01:10,198
three decades or and more. You know, it was slowly

1761
02:01:10,238 --> 02:01:12,942
killing us. You know, and people don't realize that. So

1762
02:01:13,003 --> 02:01:15,542
I think that having somebody who's there full - time

1763
02:01:15,542 --> 02:01:19,222
really does make a difference. I know that, um, Sandag

1764
02:01:19,262 --> 02:01:23,382
uses somebody in DC who's very good at what he

1765
02:01:23,382 --> 02:01:25,382
does. And it helps a lot to get grand funding

1766
02:01:25,563 --> 02:01:28,902
and stay relevant. So I appreciate the partnership with the

1767
02:01:28,942 --> 02:01:31,302
City Chulatis and for Mayor McCann taking the time to

1768
02:01:31,342 --> 02:01:34,662
come out this evening. Um, you know, again, this is

1769
02:01:34,662 --> 02:01:39,175
a conversation that started years ago. Uh, the next item,

1770
02:01:39,175 --> 02:01:42,055
even farther past that. And so, you know, we do

1771
02:01:42,156 --> 02:01:45,175
rely on things. I wish we had our own money.

1772
02:01:45,175 --> 02:01:48,215
But again, the voices that we joined up with are

1773
02:01:48,236 --> 02:01:50,695
just as big in our favor. Uh, cause it's a

1774
02:01:50,735 --> 02:01:54,615
genuine partnership and the care and concern is there. If

1775
02:01:54,655 --> 02:01:56,855
the chill of us are trying to fleece the city

1776
02:01:56,895 --> 02:01:58,455
of being prayer reach for a thousand dollars a month

1777
02:01:59,116 --> 02:02:02,855
just for their fund money, I would beg to differ

1778
02:02:02,956 --> 02:02:05,175
that's definitely not the case. This is something that's a

1779
02:02:05,175 --> 02:02:10,372
genuine partnership. And I'll be supporting this item. Great. Thank

1780
02:02:10,372 --> 02:02:13,433
you. Um, I just wanted to comment that, that I

1781
02:02:13,433 --> 02:02:17,673
think, uh, duplicity is one thing, but when you're leveraging

1782
02:02:18,494 --> 02:02:22,533
from, from multiple angles, you got multiple prong approach, um,

1783
02:02:22,734 --> 02:02:25,593
it's great that the county's doing something. We also work

1784
02:02:25,614 --> 02:02:28,713
with, we've worked with the port. We work with Coronado.

1785
02:02:28,713 --> 02:02:30,633
We've worked with Jule Vista before. So I don't think

1786
02:02:30,654 --> 02:02:34,473
this is an unusual request or arrangement. I think in

1787
02:02:34,473 --> 02:02:38,233
fact, it's probably the smartest arrangement because now we've got,

1788
02:02:38,233 --> 02:02:42,233
uh, folks coming at multiple angles, um, their hearing stories

1789
02:02:42,414 --> 02:02:47,353
from, uh, from partnerships, uh, of, of cities that maybe

1790
02:02:47,694 --> 02:02:51,113
aren't as, uh, as impacted as others. Um, but I

1791
02:02:51,113 --> 02:02:55,093
think it just shows that there's a, an aggregate, you

1792
02:02:55,093 --> 02:03:00,553
know, dissatisfaction and need for, for resolution of the problem.

1793
02:03:00,553 --> 02:03:04,473
Um, and I welcome the partnership with, uh, Chulavista again.

1794
02:03:04,574 --> 02:03:07,113
It's, it's historical. I mean, you can go back to

1795
02:03:07,294 --> 02:03:11,433
Mary Salas. And I mean, we're talking generations, um, with

1796
02:03:11,454 --> 02:03:14,553
the City of Imperial Beach. So this isn't something Mayor

1797
02:03:14,553 --> 02:03:17,593
McKay dreamed up in, you know, over the weekend. So,

1798
02:03:17,593 --> 02:03:20,713
um, I really think we're, we're moving in the right

1799
02:03:20,734 --> 02:03:25,113
direction. Uh, we need to continue to pursue, um, you

1800
02:03:25,113 --> 02:03:28,473
know, having a voice in Washington, D. C. It's great

1801
02:03:28,513 --> 02:03:32,313
that it's coming from multiple directions at the county at

1802
02:03:32,494 --> 02:03:36,713
City of Coronado, uh, and now, uh, with us in

1803
02:03:36,753 --> 02:03:39,593
this arrangement, the City of Imperial Beach will be back,

1804
02:03:39,593 --> 02:03:42,793
um, with, with a voice. So, uh, I, I very

1805
02:03:42,793 --> 02:03:45,993
much, uh, support this. Again, I appreciate Mayor McCann coming

1806
02:03:46,033 --> 02:03:49,833
out and, uh, spending time with this evening. Um, I

1807
02:03:49,833 --> 02:03:53,333
don't think there's any other questions of my council. And

1808
02:03:53,333 --> 02:03:56,313
so I'm going to look, uh, for a motion and

1809
02:03:56,353 --> 02:04:00,414
a second. I'll make a motion mayor. Fish for a

1810
02:04:00,414 --> 02:04:01,774
second. All right. Let's please vote.

1811
02:04:15,971 --> 02:04:20,874
Motion cared unanimously by those present CB Epson. Thank you

1812
02:04:20,975 --> 02:04:23,034
for that review. All right. We're going to move on

1813
02:04:23,055 --> 02:04:31,108
to our next and last item under reports. Oh, excuse

1814
02:04:31,108 --> 02:04:35,988
me. Presentations. And that's, uh, item 15B resolution 2026 081

1815
02:04:36,809 --> 02:04:39,348
approval of an agreement between the city of Chula Vista

1816
02:04:39,449 --> 02:04:41,668
and the City of Imperial Beach for the provision of

1817
02:04:42,089 --> 02:04:48,066
Bridge Shelter and Associated Services for the Homeless. Housing and

1818
02:04:48,106 --> 02:04:51,906
neighborhood services manager, uh, Mr. Rolf will make the presentation.

1819
02:04:53,969 --> 02:04:58,428
Evening, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. Um, yeah, I'm here

1820
02:04:58,449 --> 02:05:05,308
tonight to, oh, my presentation disappeared. It's back. Um, uh,

1821
02:05:05,569 --> 02:05:08,428
to make a presentation tonight at item 15b, as was

1822
02:05:08,428 --> 02:05:12,588
mentioned, Resolution 2026 081. And this is about an agreement

1823
02:05:12,689 --> 02:05:16,108
between the City of Chulavista and Imperial Beach that will

1824
02:05:16,108 --> 02:05:19,308
allow us to take unsheltered members of the public here

1825
02:05:19,329 --> 02:05:22,508
in Imperial Beach and place them into the shelter that's

1826
02:05:22,609 --> 02:05:26,828
run over in ChulaVista off Main Street. Um, to begin

1827
02:05:26,868 --> 02:05:29,548
with, let's go back a little bit and look at

1828
02:05:29,729 --> 02:05:32,748
some of the, um, the things that have happened up

1829
02:05:32,769 --> 02:05:36,828
to date. In May of 2023, I think actually most

1830
02:05:36,828 --> 02:05:39,148
of us in the room were at the opening of

1831
02:05:39,409 --> 02:05:42,588
this shelter when they did their ribbing cutting. The village

1832
02:05:42,609 --> 02:05:47,028
at Otay is 62 individual pallet shelter, like kind of

1833
02:05:47,028 --> 02:05:51,468
bungalow, small units. They have a separate cafeteria bathroom shower

1834
02:05:51,508 --> 02:05:55,502
and laundry facility. Each unit has its own separate heating

1835
02:05:56,563 --> 02:06:00,702
and air conditioning. They're lockable units. Uh, they provide on

1836
02:06:00,963 --> 02:06:04,462
site wraparound services that consist of things like health care,

1837
02:06:04,462 --> 02:06:08,862
mental health, counseling, drug and alcohol treatment programs. And the

1838
02:06:08,862 --> 02:06:11,182
big thing is assistance with the moving forward in their

1839
02:06:11,182 --> 02:06:15,802
life, securing employment and finding a permanent housing solution. The

1840
02:06:15,843 --> 02:06:20,062
program is designed for 18 years individuals of 18 years

1841
02:06:20,163 --> 02:06:23,022
of age and older. And currently over the last couple

1842
02:06:23,043 --> 02:06:26,302
of years, they've been averaging about 80 percent occupancy in

1843
02:06:26,302 --> 02:06:28,222
there. So there is a little bit of room for

1844
02:06:28,262 --> 02:06:31,662
some of our people to participate in this program. Recently

1845
02:06:32,723 --> 02:06:35,342
in the recent past, they've done some ADA improvements also

1846
02:06:35,342 --> 02:06:39,662
to the facility since I've last been there. Um, in

1847
02:06:39,683 --> 02:06:43,242
the city of Imperial Beach, uh, we've had a lot

1848
02:06:43,242 --> 02:06:46,862
of success. And I owe a ton of, uh, gratitude

1849
02:06:46,883 --> 02:06:51,642
for our successes to my outreach, uh, my outreach, uh,

1850
02:06:51,763 --> 02:06:55,262
worker, um, V .. Ramirez. And there she is with

1851
02:06:55,283 --> 02:06:58,542
her van. Um, just in the last couple of months

1852
02:06:58,582 --> 02:07:01,742
here, this is since the beginning of 2026, we've moved

1853
02:07:02,003 --> 02:07:04,942
three adults into permanent housing. Two of those are into

1854
02:07:04,982 --> 02:07:09,022
supportive housing, which is sometimes tricky to arrange. Two adults

1855
02:07:09,062 --> 02:07:12,542
have been reunited with family. One adult with two minor

1856
02:07:12,582 --> 02:07:16,862
children have recently gone into, uh, permanent shelter and they're

1857
02:07:16,862 --> 02:07:20,782
pending permanent housing, but we're working through that. One adult

1858
02:07:20,883 --> 02:07:25,262
was placed in BVSD, veterans village, San Diego. And we

1859
02:07:25,302 --> 02:07:27,822
have one that's in Safe parking now and also working

1860
02:07:27,862 --> 02:07:32,842
towards a permanent housing solution. So she's been fantastic. But

1861
02:07:32,842 --> 02:07:35,022
as you can see all the different avenues, we have

1862
02:07:35,022 --> 02:07:37,902
to pursue to get people housed. We have to go

1863
02:07:38,003 --> 02:07:40,942
into different places. It's not a one size fits all

1864
02:07:40,982 --> 02:07:43,822
for anybody. And that's where the pallet shelter opens up

1865
02:07:43,843 --> 02:07:46,782
to us additional opportunities to help us and get people

1866
02:07:47,203 --> 02:07:52,142
housed. Um, the bridge shelter itself has been quite successful.

1867
02:07:52,142 --> 02:07:54,862
Uh, since they've opened 210 individuals have gone through the

1868
02:07:54,883 --> 02:07:59,022
program in fiscal year of 25, 26, they saw 124

1869
02:07:59,843 --> 02:08:03,982
participants. And they've had basically a one third success rate

1870
02:08:04,003 --> 02:08:06,622
with getting those people moved into permanent housing, which is

1871
02:08:06,662 --> 02:08:11,962
fantastic. Um, permanent housing is, is the ultimate goal. And

1872
02:08:11,962 --> 02:08:16,016
it's a difficult goal. So the scope of participation between

1873
02:08:16,277 --> 02:08:18,656
our cities would be as follows. The term of this

1874
02:08:18,656 --> 02:08:21,136
agreement is for a period of two years. And the

1875
02:08:21,176 --> 02:08:23,056
numbers of people that we would be able to send

1876
02:08:23,317 --> 02:08:25,936
is going to be based on capacity. We're going to

1877
02:08:26,117 --> 02:08:28,256
only send the people we think that would be very

1878
02:08:28,437 --> 02:08:31,376
successful in their program that are a good fit because

1879
02:08:31,376 --> 02:08:33,136
we want to add to that success. We don't want

1880
02:08:33,136 --> 02:08:34,736
to see that third drop. We want to help them

1881
02:08:34,736 --> 02:08:37,896
up to the next level. Um, so that's going to

1882
02:08:37,896 --> 02:08:44,505
vary. It'll also vary on, uh, some. Financing. We'll have

1883
02:08:44,505 --> 02:08:46,665
to look at what it's going to cost. And we'll

1884
02:08:46,665 --> 02:08:49,065
get into numbers on the next slide. But that's also

1885
02:08:49,086 --> 02:08:50,985
going to be a limiting factor for us. We have

1886
02:08:50,985 --> 02:08:53,065
to make sure that this is something that we're not

1887
02:08:53,086 --> 02:08:56,245
entering into lightly. We're taking it, uh, with a lot

1888
02:08:56,245 --> 02:08:59,545
of consideration as far as what it will, how it

1889
02:08:59,545 --> 02:09:02,968
will affect our community. The process is really pretty simple.

1890
02:09:02,968 --> 02:09:05,288
Imperial Beach will put together a written request and send

1891
02:09:05,328 --> 02:09:08,808
it to their hot team. They're homeless outreach team. They

1892
02:09:08,829 --> 02:09:12,008
have three days in which to review our requests, they

1893
02:09:12,008 --> 02:09:14,488
can come back with an approval, a denial, or a

1894
02:09:14,528 --> 02:09:17,928
request for more information. They may also request that the

1895
02:09:17,968 --> 02:09:20,168
individual sit down with their hot team and do a

1896
02:09:20,189 --> 02:09:23,448
face - to - face. Um, transportation to and from

1897
02:09:23,488 --> 02:09:25,768
there would be provided by our city. We'll take people

1898
02:09:25,789 --> 02:09:29,128
over and take people back. Um, as was mentioned, I

1899
02:09:29,309 --> 02:09:32,088
believe by, uh, one of the council members just in

1900
02:09:32,088 --> 02:09:34,168
the prior item. This is not something that has just

1901
02:09:34,269 --> 02:09:37,528
come to light overnight. Uh, when the shelter opened three

1902
02:09:37,568 --> 02:09:39,128
years ago, we said, well, when can we start getting

1903
02:09:39,229 --> 02:09:42,248
people over here? And about a year after that, the

1904
02:09:42,288 --> 02:09:44,168
serious discussions have happened. So this has been a process

1905
02:09:44,269 --> 02:09:45,848
of a couple of years to get to where we

1906
02:09:45,848 --> 02:09:51,768
are today. Expenses. The cost for the shelter stay while

1907
02:09:51,869 --> 02:09:55,608
they're actively in the shelter participating in the wraparound services.

1908
02:10:00,909 --> 02:10:04,088
Then if they go from that position into one where

1909
02:10:04,088 --> 02:10:08,168
they're looking at permanent housing, we look at assistance for

1910
02:10:08,168 --> 02:10:12,808
those individuals in their housing goals. And that is all

1911
02:10:12,808 --> 02:10:16,328
done through a program called TBRA, which is tenant -

1912
02:10:16,328 --> 02:10:19,928
based rental assistance. They, tool of vista has staff who

1913
02:10:20,829 --> 02:10:23,582
are very well versed in it. They deal with it

1914
02:10:23,603 --> 02:10:26,622
all the time with their staff currently. So they would

1915
02:10:26,662 --> 02:10:30,042
go ahead and do that administrative portion for us. And

1916
02:10:30,042 --> 02:10:33,982
we would pay their hourly rates, uh, for that assistance.

1917
02:10:33,982 --> 02:10:36,862
And then the other portion that comes along with TBR

1918
02:10:36,862 --> 02:10:40,782
is the rental assistance on the back end. And it

1919
02:10:40,782 --> 02:10:43,582
can be for a period of up to 24 months.

1920
02:10:43,582 --> 02:10:46,462
And there's no average. It's really difficult to pin down

1921
02:10:46,723 --> 02:10:50,302
an average because it depends on where they get housed.

1922
02:10:50,302 --> 02:10:53,102
Some parts of the county are less expensive than others.

1923
02:10:53,102 --> 02:10:55,342
Um, and what you're looking at is a difference in

1924
02:10:55,382 --> 02:10:57,662
between. It kind of works a lot like a housing

1925
02:10:57,683 --> 02:11:00,460
choice voucher. The old section 8 program. Where they pay

1926
02:11:00,500 --> 02:11:04,060
a percentage, 30 percent roughly of their income that comes

1927
02:11:04,060 --> 02:11:06,940
in. And then the rest is handled by a TBR.

1928
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:15,627
Um. That's really it for my presentation. The staff's recommending

1929
02:11:15,667 --> 02:11:18,587
tonight that you authorize the city manager to go ahead

1930
02:11:18,627 --> 02:11:21,067
and enter into the agreement with the City of Tulevista

1931
02:11:21,488 --> 02:11:25,307
so that they can provide to us, uh, these pallet

1932
02:11:25,307 --> 02:11:29,307
shelter and the associated services that come along with it.

1933
02:11:29,307 --> 02:11:33,147
Uh, I am here and available for questions as well.

1934
02:11:33,147 --> 02:11:37,547
I have the director of, um, homeless services, Stacey Kurtz

1935
02:11:37,587 --> 02:11:39,147
from the City of Troll Vista. And she can answer

1936
02:11:39,248 --> 02:11:42,747
questions as well. Great. Thank you very much for that,

1937
02:11:42,747 --> 02:11:45,307
um, presentation. We do, I do have to announce that

1938
02:11:45,307 --> 02:11:50,027
we did receive written conversation, or excuse me, correspondence from

1939
02:11:50,288 --> 02:11:53,527
Sandra Brilhart on this matter. Uh, and again, it was

1940
02:11:53,527 --> 02:11:55,547
made available to the council and available in the back

1941
02:11:55,587 --> 02:11:58,487
of the room for those wishing to read it. Um,

1942
02:11:59,888 --> 02:12:03,803
I do have one public speaker. And strangely enough, it's

1943
02:12:03,904 --> 02:12:07,163
Mayor John McCann. So John, if you want to come

1944
02:12:07,203 --> 02:12:09,803
forward and address us, we appreciate your time. And again,

1945
02:12:09,803 --> 02:12:14,984
this evening. Thank you very much. Um, again, I appreciate,

1946
02:12:14,984 --> 02:12:19,784
uh, Imperial Beach's collaboration. And I remember when, uh, when

1947
02:12:20,285 --> 02:12:24,024
McKay was there when we opened up the Bridge Shelter.

1948
02:12:24,024 --> 02:12:28,584
And it really homelessness is a regional issue. And we've

1949
02:12:28,624 --> 02:12:32,984
seen many times when we went ahead and created a

1950
02:12:33,085 --> 02:12:37,464
homeless encampment ban and suddenly everybody went up to different

1951
02:12:37,504 --> 02:12:41,624
cities. And we've seen it when San Diego City of

1952
02:12:41,624 --> 02:12:44,584
San Diego cracks down on homeless and people come down

1953
02:12:45,245 --> 02:12:48,664
to the South County. But we ultimately want to make

1954
02:12:48,664 --> 02:12:51,624
sure that we can get home us off the streets

1955
02:12:52,125 --> 02:12:55,944
and get them into a situation where they can get

1956
02:12:55,965 --> 02:13:00,264
back into society. Um, last night the city of Chula

1957
02:13:00,285 --> 02:13:06,744
Vista approved the agreement, um, you do agree with this

1958
02:13:07,725 --> 02:13:14,824
for uncheltered housing services. The action will strengthen relational collaboration

1959
02:13:15,245 --> 02:13:18,584
between the Stu Cities and help address the needs of

1960
02:13:18,605 --> 02:13:24,104
individuals experiencing homelessness. Through this agreement, the city of Chulavista

1961
02:13:24,144 --> 02:13:27,224
will work with Imperial Beach to support the delivery of

1962
02:13:27,565 --> 02:13:33,704
housing related services connected to individuals with available resources and

1963
02:13:33,704 --> 02:13:38,744
help create pathways towards stable and permanent housing. Our palate

1964
02:13:38,784 --> 02:13:42,264
shelter, we have a nonprofit that does a great job.

1965
02:13:42,264 --> 02:13:47,364
They provide rapound services. Um, it's not the traditional, uh,

1966
02:13:47,725 --> 02:13:50,344
tent where people go in. They sleep there. And then

1967
02:13:50,344 --> 02:13:54,744
they go out. We actually have them pretty much stay

1968
02:13:54,765 --> 02:13:57,544
in the shelter. If they want to go find a

1969
02:13:57,584 --> 02:14:02,824
job or work, uh, we have our workers be able

1970
02:14:02,824 --> 02:14:05,784
to help with them there. But this isn't a drop

1971
02:14:05,805 --> 02:14:09,704
in, dropout, um, place. And that's why I think we've

1972
02:14:09,725 --> 02:14:13,464
had such a high rate of ability to get over

1973
02:14:14,045 --> 02:14:18,744
30 percent of the people in permanent housing. The partnership

1974
02:14:19,005 --> 02:14:24,104
recognizes that homelessness, again, is original problem. And that requires

1975
02:14:24,445 --> 02:14:29,224
coordination and shared solution among neighboring communities. Uh, we look

1976
02:14:29,405 --> 02:14:34,464
forward to our collaboration and efforts with Imperial Beach. I

1977
02:14:34,464 --> 02:14:40,164
also want to just again, uh, thank Stacey Kurtz, our

1978
02:14:40,164 --> 02:14:43,464
director of housing and homeless services. She has done a

1979
02:14:43,565 --> 02:14:48,184
tremendous job. And I just really believe that, uh, with

1980
02:14:48,205 --> 02:14:52,104
her leadership, uh, we've been so successful. I also want

1981
02:14:52,104 --> 02:14:58,264
to thank Mayor McKay. Tony Rolf and Tyler Volts for

1982
02:14:58,285 --> 02:15:03,064
coming to the meeting last night to show our collaboration.

1983
02:15:03,064 --> 02:15:05,064
And again, we want to continue to have a great

1984
02:15:05,165 --> 02:15:09,359
relationship with Imperial Beach. Thank you. Thank you very much,

1985
02:15:09,399 --> 02:15:12,319
Mayor McCann. We appreciate, uh, the kind words and also

1986
02:15:12,319 --> 02:15:17,679
the willingness to continue, uh, this collaboration, uh, across multiple

1987
02:15:17,780 --> 02:15:20,959
different disciplines. And I think it is, uh, like you

1988
02:15:20,959 --> 02:15:24,539
mentioned very much a regional issue. Um, and it was

1989
02:15:24,539 --> 02:15:28,559
even discussed at your council meeting about movement subpopulations between

1990
02:15:29,300 --> 02:15:33,599
jurisdictions and, um, you know, it's, you can't just say,

1991
02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:36,079
well, the line's here and the line's there. Um, you

1992
02:15:36,079 --> 02:15:38,799
know, we, we need to look at this more holistically

1993
02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:41,199
and more as a region. And I think this is

1994
02:15:41,220 --> 02:15:45,899
part of that solution is, is working together collaboratively. And

1995
02:15:45,899 --> 02:15:50,079
sharing some of these resources, um, obviously we're, uh, we're,

1996
02:15:50,119 --> 02:15:52,639
we're not asking for, for free. We're more than willing

1997
02:15:52,679 --> 02:15:56,319
to cover the costs for those individuals that we vet,

1998
02:15:56,319 --> 02:15:59,879
that we think, as Mr. Rolf mentioned, are going to

1999
02:15:59,879 --> 02:16:02,159
be success stories. Cause, you know, we want to contribute

2000
02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:08,879
to that, um, that success of Chula Vista's Bridge Shelter

2001
02:16:08,900 --> 02:16:11,839
City. Um, so, um, again, thank you very much for

2002
02:16:12,260 --> 02:16:15,039
your comments this evening. I'm going to now, uh, go

2003
02:16:15,060 --> 02:16:17,359
to my own council. Oh, we do have a speaker.

2004
02:16:17,359 --> 02:16:22,399
I'm sorry. I keep forgetting this new SB707. It's just

2005
02:16:22,399 --> 02:16:27,119
not in there yet. Anyways, please initiate the online speaker.

2006
02:16:27,119 --> 02:16:30,879
Sure. Uh, Mr. Mayor, we have one, um, speaker and

2007
02:16:30,879 --> 02:16:37,053
it's truth. Truth, please begin. You have three minutes. Hi,

2008
02:16:37,053 --> 02:16:38,733
truth. Um, I want to throw a theory out there

2009
02:16:38,834 --> 02:16:41,533
because that's always the best part of, uh, any political

2010
02:16:41,554 --> 02:16:46,281
meeting. Was the MOU offer and the cabins offer a

2011
02:16:46,281 --> 02:16:49,721
bundled deal. As in you only can only choose both.

2012
02:16:49,721 --> 02:16:53,064
Like you can't choose one. Not that either bad for

2013
02:16:53,104 --> 02:16:55,384
IBI. I don't think so. But somebody's been through the

2014
02:16:55,384 --> 02:16:57,144
question out there. Can't let you get away with that.

2015
02:16:57,731 --> 02:16:59,870
Um, I want to know what is the current vacancy

2016
02:16:59,891 --> 02:17:04,082
rate of the cabin. Do you need more residents to

2017
02:17:04,082 --> 02:17:07,686
justify being open. There's another theory. I've been also legitimate

2018
02:17:07,947 --> 02:17:12,207
questions. Um, I, I, I have seen this a little

2019
02:17:12,207 --> 02:17:15,167
bit online of TILA VISTA resident seeming to be mixed

2020
02:17:15,188 --> 02:17:19,467
about this topic. Of IV getting in the mix. So

2021
02:17:19,688 --> 02:17:22,307
however, I didn't watch the meeting yesterday. Sorry. So I'm

2022
02:17:22,347 --> 02:17:26,105
sure there's opinions I'm unaware of. Uh, the hourly rate

2023
02:17:26,145 --> 02:17:30,025
of 133 dollars for a management analyst two and the

2024
02:17:30,126 --> 02:17:34,585
senior fiscal office is just crazy. I'd like to know

2025
02:17:34,606 --> 02:17:37,551
what's the average timeframe that they work. You just hire

2026
02:17:37,572 --> 02:17:40,191
them for one hour on average or is it 10

2027
02:17:40,292 --> 02:17:42,836
hours. Or does it depend on the case? And do

2028
02:17:42,836 --> 02:17:45,122
you have an average range. Um, I like to know

2029
02:17:45,383 --> 02:17:48,482
what is the more affordable areas that people can pick

2030
02:17:49,143 --> 02:17:50,882
that they're just going to move to. Cause I've heard

2031
02:17:50,903 --> 02:17:53,042
something to that effect. Like why, why don't they get

2032
02:17:53,063 --> 02:17:55,731
a pitch? Is this the goal housing. You're just trying

2033
02:17:55,771 --> 02:17:58,592
to get housed, but you're giving them a pick. I

2034
02:17:58,613 --> 02:18:00,272
said doesn't tell you that we have a good in

2035
02:18:00,312 --> 02:18:03,072
America. I don't know what does. And here's another question.

2036
02:18:03,072 --> 02:18:07,518
Can they take and Hero Beach. There's an option. Cause

2037
02:18:07,539 --> 02:18:09,678
sounds like being homeless would be okay to be. Like

2038
02:18:09,779 --> 02:18:11,518
you just kick wherever you want to go. And then

2039
02:18:11,939 --> 02:18:17,351
you say, Oh, 30 percent get rehoused. Okay. That technically

2040
02:18:17,452 --> 02:18:21,511
true. But that say that people can be on taxpayer

2041
02:18:21,692 --> 02:18:27,909
funded rental assistance for two years. Two years. I mean,

2042
02:18:28,410 --> 02:18:31,029
I'm sure some people got some tough cases, but that

2043
02:18:31,029 --> 02:18:34,455
is a long time. I don't know. That's, that's very

2044
02:18:34,716 --> 02:18:38,061
questionable in itself. But here's another important question. Is this

2045
02:18:38,082 --> 02:18:40,987
a low barrier facility. I legitimately do not know the

2046
02:18:41,008 --> 02:18:44,987
answer to that. And low barrier, we know means I

2047
02:18:45,008 --> 02:18:48,009
drug you. No barrier, right? No barrier to enter. You

2048
02:18:48,009 --> 02:18:50,109
could just come as you are and do whatever you

2049
02:18:50,149 --> 02:18:53,149
want, no regulations. At least sometimes they do put regulations

2050
02:18:53,170 --> 02:18:57,063
on right, but it actually follows because it enforced. That

2051
02:18:57,103 --> 02:18:59,223
matters for the people, not for imperial speech when you

2052
02:18:59,263 --> 02:19:02,503
drop your people off, which is by whoever, that's fine.

2053
02:19:02,784 --> 02:19:05,003
But I want a real solution. I don't want people

2054
02:19:05,043 --> 02:19:07,883
to just get rehoused. I want their lives to be

2055
02:19:07,923 --> 02:19:11,222
changed. I want job training. I want life changes. I

2056
02:19:11,222 --> 02:19:15,902
do like regional strategies. Absolutely. That's just no brainer. It

2057
02:19:15,902 --> 02:19:18,962
makes sense as long as it's not low barrier. And

2058
02:19:18,962 --> 02:19:22,262
also make sure you've never ever ever ever work with

2059
02:19:22,283 --> 02:19:26,628
accounting on homelessness strategy. Because you will find yourself in

2060
02:19:26,628 --> 02:19:30,068
a bad situation like the City of Lehmingrove and Saturn

2061
02:19:30,068 --> 02:19:33,898
itself. Other than that, and I seem like I'm in

2062
02:19:33,898 --> 02:19:37,909
support, I suppose. Thank you. Great. Thank you for those

2063
02:19:37,930 --> 02:19:42,753
comments. Well, now I'll move on to Council comments and

2064
02:19:42,753 --> 02:19:45,873
we'll move to my far left to Council Member Nakawa.

2065
02:19:46,294 --> 02:19:48,913
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I have had the great pleasure

2066
02:19:48,934 --> 02:19:53,073
of doing lots of great community outreach with, um, homelessness

2067
02:19:53,174 --> 02:19:55,793
in regards to in my day job with the county.

2068
02:19:55,793 --> 02:19:56,913
One of the things that I found really interesting about

2069
02:19:56,953 --> 02:19:58,833
this property, and I haven't had the great pleasure of

2070
02:19:58,854 --> 02:20:02,753
being there or was, wasn't the opening, being animal friendly.

2071
02:20:03,249 --> 02:20:07,076
I'm a dog owner. I couldn't imagine partying with my

2072
02:20:07,257 --> 02:20:09,236
pet. So I thought that was really cool. And just

2073
02:20:09,276 --> 02:20:12,656
the, the communal spaces regards to on that property. For

2074
02:20:12,656 --> 02:20:15,876
me, I, I think we, we had a scenario happen,

2075
02:20:15,876 --> 02:20:18,996
you know, unfortunately last year where the person that needed

2076
02:20:19,017 --> 02:20:22,516
resources didn't have the resources, um, available to them and

2077
02:20:22,516 --> 02:20:25,145
didn't get the help in the end. I think this

2078
02:20:25,326 --> 02:20:28,345
being another tool in the toolkit is a great idea.

2079
02:20:28,345 --> 02:20:30,985
We don't have to send anyone. And if we don't

2080
02:20:31,246 --> 02:20:34,325
send anyone, it's not necessarily costing the city anything, but

2081
02:20:34,325 --> 02:20:36,905
again, having that extra tool of like, do you want

2082
02:20:37,166 --> 02:20:40,105
those support services and whatnot? I think something that really

2083
02:20:40,206 --> 02:20:42,345
opened my eyes is participating in the point in time

2084
02:20:42,366 --> 02:20:45,205
count in some more rural areas across the county, um,

2085
02:20:45,566 --> 02:20:49,625
also in just denser areas like alcohone, not everyone wants

2086
02:20:49,646 --> 02:20:52,105
these services. There are barriers to a lot of the

2087
02:20:52,126 --> 02:20:54,425
services that are out there in regards to maybe some

2088
02:20:54,465 --> 02:20:56,905
kind of religious component or anything like that. And so

2089
02:20:56,926 --> 02:21:00,105
the ability to have again, just this tool is of

2090
02:21:00,105 --> 02:21:02,585
interest to me. I was also skeptical in terms of

2091
02:21:02,686 --> 02:21:04,845
data. I'm always a skeptic and a lot of things

2092
02:21:05,326 --> 02:21:07,445
I just usually try to say with a smile. Um,

2093
02:21:07,806 --> 02:21:10,185
for me, I am interested to see more of the

2094
02:21:10,206 --> 02:21:13,785
data in regards to the housing and just what it

2095
02:21:13,825 --> 02:21:17,385
might look like in terms of timeline, uh, for people.

2096
02:21:17,385 --> 02:21:19,865
But I thought this was a really interesting proposal. Just

2097
02:21:19,865 --> 02:21:21,865
again, this is something that we can now offer. Like

2098
02:21:21,865 --> 02:21:27,145
if you do need this, this, um, this leg up

2099
02:21:27,185 --> 02:21:28,825
or anything in regards to that I was, I was

2100
02:21:28,865 --> 02:21:31,785
appreciative that we could provide this, um, to our constituents.

2101
02:21:31,785 --> 02:21:35,065
I just saw another lovely Facebook post today that people

2102
02:21:35,086 --> 02:21:38,905
felt that there's more homelessness and an imperial beach. And

2103
02:21:38,905 --> 02:21:40,665
then there was a bunch of comments about homeless getting

2104
02:21:40,705 --> 02:21:43,945
dropped off here. But ignoring on that side, um, it's

2105
02:21:43,945 --> 02:21:45,945
just one of those more things like, yeah, if we

2106
02:21:46,046 --> 02:21:49,305
are seeming to experience seeing more is the situation tool

2107
02:21:49,305 --> 02:21:51,185
we could provide to them to help them out. So

2108
02:21:51,726 --> 02:21:54,025
I'm in support of this item. Thank you. Great. Thank

2109
02:21:54,025 --> 02:21:57,785
you for your comments. Councilmember Labor Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor.

2110
02:21:57,785 --> 02:22:04,425
Um, Tony, I have a question. So, um, prior to,

2111
02:22:04,425 --> 02:22:09,305
um, so yourself and your staff, you guys will be

2112
02:22:09,305 --> 02:22:17,705
involved with interviewing the perspective, um, unsheltered prior to deciding

2113
02:22:18,206 --> 02:22:23,145
if they're a good candidate for this location as opposed

2114
02:22:23,166 --> 02:22:31,785
to, say other locations that are available. Sure. Um, the

2115
02:22:31,785 --> 02:22:36,345
way our outreach is structured currently, we typically don't start

2116
02:22:36,366 --> 02:22:41,545
to recommend pathways until we've met with an individual probably

2117
02:22:41,566 --> 02:22:43,945
in a less than three times. The main reason is

2118
02:22:44,126 --> 02:22:47,305
there's a transient population. If we dive in and spend

2119
02:22:47,566 --> 02:22:50,025
an intensive 24 hours on somebody only to find out

2120
02:22:50,065 --> 02:22:52,825
they walked away, that was 24 hours wasted on somebody

2121
02:22:52,825 --> 02:22:55,145
that we could have spent somewhere else. So after we

2122
02:22:55,166 --> 02:22:57,225
engage with them several times when we start to see

2123
02:22:57,326 --> 02:23:00,345
what they're in need of some people aren't ready for

2124
02:23:00,366 --> 02:23:02,425
this. This is a program that's trying to get you

2125
02:23:03,486 --> 02:23:06,025
almost back mainstream. It's for people who are ready to

2126
02:23:06,286 --> 02:23:08,905
start working, ready to be on a schedule ready to

2127
02:23:08,945 --> 02:23:12,425
find housing. Um, we have individuals in town who their

2128
02:23:12,446 --> 02:23:15,785
first need is rehab. Um, we have good connections with

2129
02:23:16,126 --> 02:23:18,425
rehab facilities. So we would rather see them go to

2130
02:23:18,526 --> 02:23:22,745
a rehab, go through a rehab. And then when they

2131
02:23:22,745 --> 02:23:24,265
come out on the back end, if they haven't gone

2132
02:23:24,305 --> 02:23:27,705
to a sober living house and down housing, that path,

2133
02:23:27,705 --> 02:23:30,425
that would be an opportunity, something like that. So our

2134
02:23:30,465 --> 02:23:33,705
goal is always to try and fit the client to

2135
02:23:33,726 --> 02:23:37,925
the right path for them based on their circumstances. And

2136
02:23:37,966 --> 02:23:41,545
obviously they have input to that. We aren't forcing anybody

2137
02:23:41,585 --> 02:23:45,762
to do anything against their will. We're presenting opportunities and

2138
02:23:45,802 --> 02:23:48,882
hoping that they'll trust us in our judgments of the

2139
02:23:48,903 --> 02:23:51,922
programs we work with in what we recommend to them.

2140
02:23:52,633 --> 02:23:57,652
And, um, I remember when you first started and I

2141
02:23:57,692 --> 02:23:59,892
had more time and I would go with you on

2142
02:23:59,993 --> 02:24:03,012
Thursdays to do the outreach. You and your team do

2143
02:24:03,033 --> 02:24:07,492
a phenomenal job because you guys know all the unsheltered

2144
02:24:08,473 --> 02:24:11,172
all nine unsheltered and imperiled beach. Don't tell the mayor

2145
02:24:11,212 --> 02:24:13,172
from Chula Vista, but they don't want to go to

2146
02:24:13,433 --> 02:24:15,812
Chula Vista. They want to stay here and coastal utopia

2147
02:24:16,313 --> 02:24:19,792
because of the weather, the beach, you name it. But

2148
02:24:19,993 --> 02:24:24,612
I appreciate the great job you and your entire staff.

2149
02:24:24,612 --> 02:24:28,372
You guys perform like, like I had mentioned about this

2150
02:24:28,393 --> 02:24:30,932
Saturday being the horseshoes and you're, you already gave me

2151
02:24:30,932 --> 02:24:33,892
the insight on, you know, who I may be having

2152
02:24:33,932 --> 02:24:37,652
to deal with or whatever. But it's, I appreciate it.

2153
02:24:37,652 --> 02:24:42,129
Thank you very much. No, you're very welcome. Mayor Pracham.

2154
02:24:42,349 --> 02:24:45,288
Thanks, Mayor. Now great presentation. Again, I remember as a

2155
02:24:45,288 --> 02:24:48,328
young council member in the conversation for this started this

2156
02:24:48,328 --> 02:24:51,368
partnership. So it's been, you know, five, five years or

2157
02:24:51,368 --> 02:24:54,088
so. Um, I remember, you know, we talked about pallet

2158
02:24:54,128 --> 02:24:55,608
homes and we're like, where could we put them in

2159
02:24:55,608 --> 02:24:58,168
IBA? And it was deemed that it wasn't a feasible

2160
02:24:58,208 --> 02:25:01,048
idea, but, uh, again, with the saves, she'll Vista kind

2161
02:25:01,048 --> 02:25:03,608
of working on their budget's a little bit bigger than

2162
02:25:03,709 --> 02:25:09,095
ours. Uh, so it's always good to kind of piggyback.

2163
02:25:09,095 --> 02:25:13,145
Um, you know. Whenever we talk about homeless, everybody wants

2164
02:25:13,566 --> 02:25:18,139
to say, what does it cost. You know, I ask

2165
02:25:18,160 --> 02:25:21,903
myself that a lot because. Regionally in the state of

2166
02:25:21,943 --> 02:25:24,863
California is a whole, I feel like it's very ineffective

2167
02:25:26,324 --> 02:25:29,073
as a program. Multitude of reasons. There's so many different

2168
02:25:29,494 --> 02:25:33,873
aspects to it. Um, but you know, Ulicit eight people

2169
02:25:33,974 --> 02:25:39,255
that you've helped this year. What's the cost. Does it

2170
02:25:39,255 --> 02:25:42,135
make any difference? You know, I see there's an individual

2171
02:25:42,476 --> 02:25:47,337
has kids. What's the cost? Doesn't matter. To me because

2172
02:25:47,358 --> 02:25:50,617
we're helping people, you know, we're, we're, we're not a

2173
02:25:50,617 --> 02:25:54,164
business. We're a public agency. And we look out for

2174
02:25:54,164 --> 02:25:57,970
the betterment of our, our residents. We could always make

2175
02:25:57,991 --> 02:26:01,174
judgment calls. We could ask a lot of questions. But

2176
02:26:01,355 --> 02:26:03,414
ultimately comes down to these are people who are in

2177
02:26:03,414 --> 02:26:07,432
our community. They may have wandered and drifted and just

2178
02:26:07,432 --> 02:26:09,432
kind of pounds out their feet. They may have been

2179
02:26:09,432 --> 02:26:12,872
here second, third, fourth generation. It doesn't matter. They're still

2180
02:26:12,912 --> 02:26:17,957
residents. To finally have this opportunity to do this is

2181
02:26:17,997 --> 02:26:21,697
amazing to me. Um, is it sustainable for the next

2182
02:26:22,118 --> 02:26:24,097
five, 10 years? I don't know. We don't know. There's

2183
02:26:24,137 --> 02:26:26,931
a lot of unknowns at this point. But for the

2184
02:26:26,971 --> 02:26:31,331
foreseeable future, there's options for somebody that's going to have

2185
02:26:31,912 --> 02:26:37,071
a new option that they've never have had. It was

2186
02:26:37,071 --> 02:26:39,251
something a little bit easier for them to, you know,

2187
02:26:39,251 --> 02:26:41,331
I can only imagine what it must feel like sleeping

2188
02:26:41,592 --> 02:26:43,571
your first night in a place that you're completely safe

2189
02:26:43,592 --> 02:26:46,851
that you locked the door yourself. And it has a

2190
02:26:46,851 --> 02:26:49,971
clean bedding, you know, those types of things. I can't

2191
02:26:50,011 --> 02:26:52,851
even imagine what it must feel like for an individual.

2192
02:26:52,851 --> 02:26:54,611
Um, and again, to get to that point, they have

2193
02:26:54,611 --> 02:26:58,911
to go through a rigorous amount of interviews, conversations, um,

2194
02:26:59,272 --> 02:27:02,771
and what you mentioned was sometimes. So, you know, and

2195
02:27:02,952 --> 02:27:04,771
just, I just want to make sure that everybody knows

2196
02:27:05,272 --> 02:27:09,907
that this. The services that are provided are going to

2197
02:27:09,907 --> 02:27:11,627
be paid for from a fund that we have as

2198
02:27:11,667 --> 02:27:15,112
a community benefit fund. And I think that's an important

2199
02:27:15,133 --> 02:27:18,552
part. We're not taking stuff that otherwise, you know, is

2200
02:27:18,592 --> 02:27:21,152
earmarked for, for any other services, there are going to

2201
02:27:21,152 --> 02:27:23,432
be not had in our city. So it's, it's an

2202
02:27:23,453 --> 02:27:26,472
important thing that we look at saying, this will give

2203
02:27:26,472 --> 02:27:29,833
us an opportunity to help residents. Again, people can make

2204
02:27:29,873 --> 02:27:33,385
their judgments in life. We see some commonalities why people

2205
02:27:33,425 --> 02:27:38,908
are unsheltered. Um, but we're trying to help them. No

2206
02:27:38,948 --> 02:27:41,868
more noble thing that we could do to help residents

2207
02:27:41,908 --> 02:27:44,508
of Imperial Beach in ways that they need the help.

2208
02:27:45,922 --> 02:27:47,661
And I know that you and your team do it

2209
02:27:47,661 --> 02:27:49,501
without judgment. And I hope that our community will look

2210
02:27:49,541 --> 02:27:53,001
at this as an opportunity to help without judgment. And

2211
02:27:53,001 --> 02:27:54,621
again, if we can add to that list of eight

2212
02:27:54,642 --> 02:27:58,861
people that were successes and not look at the other

2213
02:27:58,901 --> 02:28:00,701
people who don't make it through the param because it

2214
02:28:00,701 --> 02:28:03,513
doesn't matter. It matters to those people who make it.

2215
02:28:04,686 --> 02:28:08,425
Because they're a father, a son, a daughter, a mother.

2216
02:28:08,425 --> 02:28:12,745
There's somebody to somebody and their residents of Imperial Beach.

2217
02:28:12,745 --> 02:28:14,825
So I really appreciate this coming forward. Thank you to

2218
02:28:15,326 --> 02:28:18,505
the city of Chula Vista, uh, for, for continuing the

2219
02:28:18,545 --> 02:28:21,145
conversation for many years and to have it come to

2220
02:28:21,185 --> 02:28:26,306
fruition, um, is pretty cool. Thank you for those comments

2221
02:28:26,567 --> 02:28:29,426
and observations. And I think, uh, I think we have

2222
02:28:30,087 --> 02:28:33,186
a pretty strong consensus on this item. I don't have

2223
02:28:33,207 --> 02:28:35,666
a whole lot of other comments. Um, except to say

2224
02:28:35,706 --> 02:28:38,946
that, um, you know, Tony and your team do an

2225
02:28:38,967 --> 02:28:42,706
amazing job. You know, I, even when I hear people

2226
02:28:43,447 --> 02:28:45,986
concern about costs, I think, you know, we still control

2227
02:28:46,026 --> 02:28:49,506
that. I mean, to the, to the, to some degree,

2228
02:28:49,607 --> 02:28:54,146
we're the ones deciding who we're vetting, who are not

2229
02:28:54,146 --> 02:28:56,386
necessarily who's ready to go, but you know, so that

2230
02:28:56,386 --> 02:28:58,846
we can contribute to that success. And so, you know,

2231
02:28:58,887 --> 02:29:01,426
it's not just an open door. Anybody can go and,

2232
02:29:01,426 --> 02:29:03,826
you know, they last three days or four days. And

2233
02:29:03,826 --> 02:29:05,266
then they, you know, they're back out on the street

2234
02:29:05,287 --> 02:29:07,986
and they come back for another round. That isn't how

2235
02:29:08,026 --> 02:29:11,166
this is going to work. There's going to be, you

2236
02:29:11,166 --> 02:29:14,066
know, there's guardrails. And Tony and his team are those

2237
02:29:14,167 --> 02:29:19,746
guardrails. So I'm very confident that this program is just

2238
02:29:19,786 --> 02:29:23,886
going to be another tool in our toolbox. And, um,

2239
02:29:23,886 --> 02:29:26,786
something else we can offer those individuals in our community

2240
02:29:26,826 --> 02:29:30,610
that need the help. So. With that, I'm going to

2241
02:29:30,911 --> 02:29:36,745
request a motion and a second. Fish are so moved.

2242
02:29:37,565 --> 02:29:47,215
I'll second mayor. Thank you. Let's please vote. We have

2243
02:29:47,316 --> 02:29:50,575
a motion by Fisher with the second by Nakawasay to

2244
02:29:50,615 --> 02:29:56,975
adopt resolution number 2026 - 081. And motion carries unanimously

2245
02:29:57,076 --> 02:30:01,218
by those present. Thank you very much. And I appreciate

2246
02:30:01,479 --> 02:30:04,338
again. I want to thank you, Mayor McCann, for coming

2247
02:30:04,359 --> 02:30:06,898
out this evening and spending some of your valuable time

2248
02:30:07,239 --> 02:30:10,660
and your staff. Um, with us. So thanks again for

2249
02:30:10,761 --> 02:30:14,000
your council's approval of that item. Um, so we can

2250
02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:18,545
all move forward. All right. Um, real quickly here. Uh,

2251
02:30:18,586 --> 02:30:23,205
item 16 redevelopment agency successor, uh, agency reports. We have

2252
02:30:23,866 --> 02:30:26,645
non, uh, we didn't pull any items from the consent

2253
02:30:26,685 --> 02:30:31,285
calendar this evening. Um, do I have any future item,

2254
02:30:31,285 --> 02:30:33,925
excuse me, future agenda item requests from Council members.