Good evening everyone. At this time I'm going to have
the city attorney report out on our closed session. Thank
you Mayor. The Council Met in closed session on item
3A as listed as the closed session agenda. Direction was
given no reportable action was taken. Thank you. Thank you.
And with that I'm going to close the closed session.
This is the regular city Council meeting of the City
of Imperial Beach for August 19th, 2026. As it is
my tradition, I'm going to announce that the City Council
also sits as the Imperial Beach Planning Commission, Public Finance
Authority, Housing Authority, and the Imperial Beach Redevelopment Agency Successor
Agency. At this time I'll ask City Clerk Kelly to
please take a role. Council Member Nakawase. Not going to
say President. Council Member Labor Gonzalez. Labor Gonzalez here. Mayor
Pro Tem Fisher. Fisher President. Mayor McKay. Mayor McKay is
present. Council Member Seaberry is absent. Thank you for that
roll call. At this time we're going to engage in
the Pledge of Allegiance. We have a very special guest
here this morning. Excuse me this morning this afternoon this
evening. This will be a young lady named Maya. She
participated in the sun in Sea Festival as one of
the Sandcastle Building teams for the children. And she's going
to lead us in our Pledge of Allegiance today. So
take it away Maya. Our pleasure allegiance. To the flag
of United States of America. To the Republic for which
it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with sliverty and
justice for all. Wonderful. Thank you so much Maya. You
did a wonderful job. Alright, we're now going to move
on to reports on assignments from our council members, and
we'll start at my left with Council Member Nakawasay. Thank
you Mayor on August 6. I had the great pleasure
of attending Crest, which was an opening person new housing
here in the district. It was really wonderful to see.
It was a beautiful property. So hopefully we can get
some tenants in there moved in and enjoying the property.
I had the great pleasure of going to Stopping by
HessFest and the Frogmen fundraiser over at the plank, which
is really cool. I got a brand new challenge coin,
which I thoroughly enjoyed. Um, and then yesterday I actually
got to meet with the acting CEO of for San
You Community Power. Jack Clark. I actually want to thank
Lynn who gave me this idea was to ask for
basically some data based on how much we're using inutilities
on spikes when we have the sewage issue and everything
because a solution shouldn't also call an adjacent problem. And
so we had a long conversation about that. And so
I'm helping he gives us that so we can just
kind of see those patterns and hopefully ask to advocate
for some kind of incentives for the folks using more
utilities. Cause I know that I am during those times.
Um, and I told him you can use my house
as a reference point or anything like that. So it
was a great meeting. And then, um, next Saturday, if
I can have this flyer pulled up, I don't know
if it is. Um, we are hosting the next -
gen workshop. So really want to encourage any youth in
our community. You don't have to be 14 and up.
If you're really enthusiastic, 13 year old, I would really
like to see you there. Um, again, I want to
make sure that youth in our community has the tools
to be successful. So we're going to have some wonderful
speakers. Again, they're going to learn how to interview, how
to network and everything. And one thing again, I think
that's always important is walking away with something tangible. And
so really want to make sure they have a headshot.
So you guys can register by scanning the QR code.
It's posted on our social media and everything. But would
really love to see some more people register intent. And
that's it. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you. We'll move
on to Council Member Labor Gonzalez, please. Uh, thank you
Mayor. Um, I don't have anything to report for committees,
but I just wanted to report on, um, an issue
that happened on Saturday the 15th. So initially I received,
um, confirmation from our amazing city manager, Tyler Foltz, that
there was a water leak at 1348 Holly Avenue. This
was a little after 10 a. m. I, I was
in the process of deciding what I was going to
do with the rest of my day. So I'm like,
let me go drive over there and be a sidewalk
superintendent. So I showed up. And initially our public works,
amazing team was there already. Um, Calam and Calan's sub,
which is Montejo Backho Service. So there was already a
group of residents, you know, kind of congregating and asking
questions. So I connected with public works. They had explained
already that they were concerned about the, um, drains because
there was a lot of mud and smug and muck.
So, uh, the Cal Am ironically while I was there
had showed up with their big shop vac, their back,
um, so I connected with some of the residents, let
them know roughly the time, you know, the time range
where they will be out of water. So initially I
had quoted them five to six hours. Um, prior to
leaving, I connected with, um, the owner of Montejo Backho
service, Andres gave him my contact info and said to
kind of give me an update. Literally 130 ish, the
water was back on. They were backfilling. And the whole
situation could have been extremely more negative, but it just
really made me proud to know that we have people
that work on a Saturday diligently and everyone communicated efficiently.
And the disruption in water service to the residents in
that area was limited. And it was, it really made
me feel good. So, um, thank you Tyler for being
communicating so efficiently. And thank you to public works. Cal
Am and Monteco Baco service. That's all I got. All
right. Thank you for that update. We'll move on to
Mayor Protem Fisher. Thanks Mayor. No, no real big official
stuff. Um, other than at the end of July, uh,
SDG, and he filed some paperwork with the state, um,
it's a very technical stuff. Uh, regarding San Diego Committee
power, but the net result is that power, um, satin
can be powerful for transmission and generation as its lowest
it's ever been, uh, for residents. And so the average,
uh, resident with the regular service is about seven to
eight percent saving the SUGNE. Now with rates, they're always
fluctuating. Um, but the staff doesn't think that there's going
to be any more fluctuations for us here. So there
should be good savings on the horizon. Uh, that's very
steady again. All it depends on what SDG need does.
So, uh, on the other thing, uh, last Friday music
in the park, uh, group PRIMO was fantastic. Lots of
people out there. Great, great time for those who showed
up. Lots of dancing going on. And so, uh, this
week we have an 80s cover band. So invite everybody
to come out there at 6 p. m. Veteranspark. Bring,
bring your pillows, your, uh, chairs, whatever you have to
do. If you get the early, may want to sit
in the shade. If you get there later, sit in
the sun. They get, they got a little bit cool
out there. So anyways, that's all you got, Mayor. Great.
Thank you for that update. I did have a few
things to report. Um, August 6th, I attended the Metro
Wastewater JPA meeting. The only real announcement out of there
is we did get, uh, all the participating agencies to
sign off on the, uh, Sarah, which is the second
amendment to the, uh, agreement. And so the new billing,
uh, is in place now. Um, there were some concern
that if all the agencies didn't pass it within, uh,
certain timeline, we might have some staggered billing, which is
never good. Um, then on August 8th, I did attend,
uh, the Hest Fest here in Imperial Beach. I think
it was very well attended. It seemed like there was
a really good turnout. Um, both locals and, uh, and
folks in the region, uh, October, excuse me, August 11th.
I had my monthly, actually quarterly meeting with the Lieutenant
Galvet, the Sheriff's Department. You've probably seen in the local
media some reporting on the Little League situation. I want
to thank the Sheriff's Department for doing their due diligence
and participating with that investigation and bringing it to, uh,
somewhat of a conclusion. Uh, then on, uh, August 15th,
our local grocery outlet had its 80th, actually their ninth
anniversary here in town, but the company is their 80th
anniversary. So we did have a ribbon cutting, um, and
then yesterday I spoke at both the City Council Meetings
for, uh, City of Coronado and also for the City
of Chula Vista, uh, a couple of those items will
be coming up, uh, on our agenda later this evening.
So we'll, we'll talk a little bit more about them
then. All right. At this time I'm going to hand
it over to, uh, City Manager Folts versus some communications
from city staff. Thank you Mayor. Staff's requesting to, uh,
that the Council move item 15C before items A and
B. It's our understanding that the Mayor of TIL Vista
may be coming to comment on items A and B.
So again, stash requesting to consider the e - bike
item before those items. All right. We certainly happy to
provide that professional courtesy to the Mayor of Chelovista. So
we will in fact move item, uh, 15c ahead of
15a and 15b. I see we have an announcement from
fire chief French. Is that correct? Honorable Mayor City
Council. Um, I have a few, um, employees. I want
to introduce and then a few announcements after that. So,
um, I'm going to introduce two, one started on, um.
July 27th. And he's so he's new to the fire
department. And then the other one started on May 25th
as a part - time with Marine Safety Division of
the Fire Rescue Department. And we hired him full time
on January of 26. So he hasn't had a chance
to be up here. So the first one I'd like
to bring up is Ian Urskine. From our marine safety
division. Um, and, you know, he's doing a great job.
He's had a couple of CPRs he's done with the
fire department down there in the beach area. So real
hard worker. So like to welcome you. Thank you. Welcome.
Go ahead and have, yeah. Introduce yourself. You and your
skin. I was a seasonal here at the Imperial Beach.
I started May of last year. And then promoted to
full time in January of this year. And joined every
minute of it. And just want to say thanks for
having me. Great. Thank you. Welcome to the team. All
right. Second one I'd like to bring up is Kyle
Barone. Um, he started with us on July 27th. And
he's going to be starting Heartland's fire academy next Monday,
the 24th. And he'll be finished with that on November
5th. So he's got a couple months of hard work
to go through. So. Come on. Hello. Cover only
parasitionary fire paramedic. Grew up here in San Diego. Carl's
bed mainly. The work in San Diego most of my
career is in the city. Worked to the cigar role
paramedical children's defire where I started working some ambulance just
here at Vista at Imperial Beach. And been employed here
since July. Looking forward to a long period with the
privilege fire department. Super welcome you into the team and
thank you for all your hard work so far. Thank
you. Get ready for the Academy. All right. I know
Council has been waiting for this one for a long
time. So, um, on, uh, on October 3rd, um, we're
going to be doing our, um, new engine push in
ceremony. Um, some of the details and it's going to
be along with the pancake breakfast. So some of the
details and times are still in the works, but we
want you to save that date. Um, the next one's
going to be our, uh, open house. It's going to
be Saturday, October 17th. From 10 a. m. to 2
p. m. And that's always a fun event for the
community. And we love seeing you guys out there. Great.
Thank you. Yeah. And as part of the open house,
we're going to have the blood bank. We're going to
have the blood bank. And this can be our second
annual, uh, blood drive that we've done. We didn't have
mount here last year, but they were here the previous
year. So, um, they're going to be here for 930
to 230. So they're going to be here half hour
on each side of our blood drive. And as, um,
if you get blood, you can, um, get a t
- shirt and it's going to have the thing from
the Adams family on their t - shirt. So. Great.
Looking forward to everybody signing up and giving some blood.
Great. Thank you for those announcements and thank you for
getting that, uh, fire engine ready to go. All right.
It's this time we're going to move on to public
comment section. Looking for some public speaker cards. Let me
announce before we take speakers in house that we did
receive correspondence from truth. And it was a made available
to the Council members and also, uh, the folks in
the auditorium here in the back. I have one public
speaker card. It's Mr. Brandon Claypool. So Brandon, if you
can come forward and you're three minutes start now, I
just wanted to say thank you for welcoming me to
Imperial Beach. I love the city. The Sheriff's Department does
a really good job of keeping it safe. I've noticed
it. It's sad that the beach is closed. But hey,
you got a lot of good businesses that need to
be filled with customers. And so I'm just pleased the
way I progressed. It's a very safe city. You care
about the citizens here. Uh, it's nice to see that
like people out walking around. They're in parks, you know,
it's like, it's really nice what you've done with parks
and recreation. And you got people out everywhere. It's, it's,
it's really, it's a really good community that like stands
up for each other. And I, you can see it.
This is a great city. And you guys have done
a really good job. I just wanted to thank you.
Thanks. Well, thank you very much for those comments and
we appreciate the, uh, the feedback. All right. I guess
we're going to go to the remote participation at this
point. City Clerk Kelly, please. Announce the first speaker. Okay.
Mr. Mayor, we have one raised hand and it's a
caller with the last two numbers of three one. Please
unmute yourself and begin. You have three minutes.
So that is proof that even when things go awry.
Oh, you don't want me to start now. Uh, everyone
collapse it off even the curse. Um, earlier today, I
went to email a few comments and received an automated
city email return saying you guys no longer at that
email comments and that everyone must use the e -
commit form. I don't mind that as an option, but
as a mandate, They also do not allow pictures to
be uploaded, which was my entire point of emailing my
comment. So I give a trying to roll III, but
give more of a snarky look of emojis to that
option. That being said, uh, I emailed my comments only
because I've been married. Turns out okay. Cause Hey, the
brush covered bike racket. The bay has nothing cleared for
you. It's a city success. So my new public works
idea is if you pour a little concrete square on
that bike rack, dry brush should be less of an
issue. I don't know if there's environmental rotate, but Hey,
an idea. The other issue I brought up was a
legal finding about union derived conflicts of interest on city
council. Um, it actually came from former corrupt supervisor underneath
the fletcher in his corrupt wise Lorena Gonzalez head of
the union. The Majority Council legally investigated the issue provided
an analysis. And I just think that's something that could
be looked at further in the future. Because anyone who
has a conflict of interest should never be involved in
the decision making process. And a girl beat a certainly
suffered from that in the past. I really think that
union paid for phone should also be bad from the
diets because it opens that door to conflict. Getting even
more political, I also notice that the progressive narrative seems
to be the unsounded line that Mitch has no plan
for Mexico sewage. And it's like, really they're going to
ignore the IV plan that he helped draft last year
that was chocks was tangible solutions that the former corrupts
democratic entity. Man, well I pulled them again a vote
it against. So question, what does grab your labor drunker,
conshaus breast at the table, other than socialism, bad attitude,
beer and asleep at the wheel. Sorry, nobody wants curl
to commie. Jose the ace puppet or Omar the law
breaker. And obviously Matthew couldn't even get the endorsement from
his own party enough said. Now let's give to something
else better or not actually, sorry, quick APCD update. I
did a public records request with a county and they
claim that no communications exist with the company Ironti who
provided the unqualified junk air purifiers. APCDN men will it
would not confirm whether or not the new air purifiers
are. But actually purify anything or not. And we'll also
pick Laura Wilkinson to be on a committee, even though
she's received over 4, 100 dollars in campaign donations from
her. Totally corrupt as always. It was a purely political
meeting. We're honestly the best part with just me calling
out George at Gomez for Stuffner's face on camera. Oh,
that's why I started meeting life in a nutshell. All
right. Let's bring on John McCann. I want to hear
him. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Moving on,
um, do we have any other callers? That was the
only one. That was the final caller, Mr. All right.
Thank you. Um, I guess we're going to move on
to item 11, which is presentations. And as was
mentioned earlier, we're going to re shuffle the order. We're
going to take item 15C. Sorry.
I apologize. I skipped over the consent calendar. Silly me.
All right. We're going to move on to consent calendar.
Do we have any public speaker slips for the consent
items? No, Mr. Mean. None. Uh, do we have any
remote participation requests. No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Any city
council discussion on the consent calendar. All right. Can I
get a motion and a second, please? Fisher. Proves a
motion. In a second. Thank you. Please vote.
Motion carried unanimously by those present. All right. Now we're
going to move on to ordinances and first readings. We
have none this evening. And then we're going to move
to public hearings. I'm going to open the first public
hearing on item 14a, which is the Imperial, excuse me,
Imperial Beach Forum Sports Bar and Grill seeking approval to
allow live entertainment within the existing restaurant located at 1079
Sea Coast Drive. And a California Environmental Quality Act categorical
exception 0600 - 20. City Planner Arturo. Excuse me, or
twonow will present this item. Thank you. Good evening, Honra
Mayor Council members. My name is Arturo Ortuno, City Planner
with the Commuter Development Department. I will be presenting item
14A this evening, which is a request for a conditional
use permit for I. ......... live entertainment at the existing
restaurant. The Project Site is located at 1079 Sea Coast
Drive in a zoned CMU2 or CCOS Commercial and Mixed
Use. The applicant is proposing to operate live entertainment at
the existing restaurant location. Under the CMU2 zoning regulations, a
restaurant with live entertainment is permitted with an approval of
a conditioner use permit by the City Council. The project
site is located in the western portion of the city
at the northeast corner of CCOSIDIVE and Imperial Beach Boulevard.
The surrounding area consists primarily of residential uses, including multifamily
development to the north, west, and south in a single
- family residence to the east. The site contains an
approximately 2, 200 square foot restaurant, approximately 2, 000 square
feet of cover patio areas. And eight existing parking spaces.
The applicant is not proposing any changes to the existing
footprint. Landscaping, or parking. Staff would like to note that
there is a typo arrow in the staff report regarding
the square footage of the restaurant and patio areas. The
figures included in the staff report were taken from a
previous permit and do not reflect the existing conditions of
the site. The applicant is proposing to operate live entertainment
within the eastern patio area adjacent to the parking lot.
As shown on the slide. The patio is enclosed by
a 6 foot high perimeter wall. The wall consists of
a 4 foot concrete missionary wall with an additional 2
feet of tempered glass screening. And the patio is covered
by a solid roof structure. The areas proposed for live
entertainment is located at JSON to the eastern entrance of
the restaurant's dining area shown in yellow on the floor
plan. The proposed entertainment would include amplified music, trivia, bingo,
and acoustic performances. If the condition used permitters to approved,
the applicant is also required to obtain and maintain all
applicable licenses and permits, including those required by the California
Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control. Pursuant to ABC license requirements,
live entertainment shall be limited to the hours of 10
a. m. to 10 p. m. seven days a week.
With the exception of Monday through Thursday, these hours are
generally consistent with the restaurant's existing hours of operation and
with other approved live entertainment uses in the city. This
light shows a southeast and northeast corners of the patio,
including the existing 6 - foot perimeter wall and covered
structure. As part of the proposed operation, the patio will
be equipped with noise decibel monitors to help monitors sound
levels. In addition, speakers used for live entertainment will be
directed toward the restaurant building and angle downward to hit
minimize noise impacts on surrounding properties. This slide shows the
entrance that the patio from the parking lot, as well
as a northern elevation of the patio. The northern elevation
provides an additional physical barrier between the proposed entertainment area
and the multifamily residential use to the north. Staff recommends
that City Council conducted public hearing and adopt resolution number
2026 - 084. This concludes my presentation and I'm available
for any questions. And we also have the owner for
I. B. forum here, Matt Morgan, also to answer any
questions. Great, thank you for the presentation. Um, we're going
to go to public speakers. Um, I do have one
public speaker request card. Mr. Martin Mattis, please approach the
DIAS. Or the podium.
Good evening, Honorable Mayor. Distinguished Council and hardest working staff
in San Diego County. For the record on Martin Mattis,
owner of the Oplank N, long time I. B. resident
and retired Navy Command Master Chief. In 1992, Morgan family
purchased i. i. before. 1993, me and Matthew started going
there. Just kidding. No, in 1994 I moved a, I
moved from Coronado down to Imperial Beach. And I went
down to the forum all the time. Lots has changed,
but one thing has stayed consistent along Sea Coast. The
Europlank in and IBorum have been the cornerstones of C
Coast Drive. Matt reached out to me asking how to
get live music two years ago. Uh, we set up
a meeting with mayor Aguiri. And worked with Matt on
getting the ball rolling to get live music going. It's
been two years. Several ABC visits, and now in front
of this distinguished council. I support allowing music at the
i.. Plank has music, my cat says music, Sammy's has
music. I. B. forum needs to have music. In fact,
I think my son - in - law is playing
at Sammy's this weekend. There's a lot of history at
the I. B. forum. I went there when it was
a fishbowl. And now it's a premier spot to go
eat. I ate their lunch today. So, thank you for
the time. And please vote yes on allowing music at
the I. B. forum. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for
your comments. Do we have any remote participation on this
item? Yes, Mr. Mayor, and it is truth. Truth, please
unmute yourself and begin. You have three minutes. You know,
it's actually a literal porn. So it's on the south
side of ISQUI. Southwest, so it's kind of interesting. It's
a literal cornerstone on the other side. Um, so should
you have music at every end, at every notch in
IB? Yeah, sure, why not? The only hesitation would be,
what are the neighbors think about it? Because you do
have homes right there. And you do have the estuary
right there. Some environmentalists may have an issue if the
music is too loud right there at the estuary. I
mean, I do like peace there. Uh, but I'm a
little more concerned about the neighbors. As long as you
have really set time that everyone agrees on of when
you're not going to have music going and when you
are, then as long as their consent, I don't see
a problem with it. I think it sounds like a
great idea to have just been another cool business in
ID. Thank you. Thank you for those comments. I'm going
to go ahead and close the public hearing now. Uh,
City Council, would you like to speak? Um, Matthew, would
you start, excuse me, Councilmember Labor Gonzalez? Uh, yes, thank
you. Thank you, Mayor. Um, so. I'm going to try
to remain as non - biased as possible. Um, so
it's not necessarily, it is a cornerstone of the city,
but the reason why myself and my wife enjoys. Being
there so much, aside from the food, because we love
the soup there. So we're always like, what's the soup
of the day? But it's more along the lines of
the individuals that work there because they give you that
great feeling when you show up. And the locals that
work there, um, the food's amazing. Um, and it's family
owned. So we always talk about what we can do
as a council to make businesses strive here in Imperial
Beach because of the beaches being closed. They are definitely
a place that people that come from out of town
for sure wants to see because the service is amazing.
The food is amazing. Um, I take pride in stating
that my stiping gets spent. Throughout Imperial Beach. I'm not
going to say how much gets spent there. But I'm
in strong support of passing this. Thank you, Mayor. Thank
you for those comments. Councilmember Nakasa. Thank you Mayor. Um,
I had the great pleasure of working at a live
music joint for five and a half years. And so
we had also told the city at the time amplified
music and sound. And so just to dig a little
deeper, are you guys planning to have some like acoustic
axe live bands? What are you guys expecting in regards
to some of your live entertainment. Can you please perch
the microphone? Thank you. Um, iBorm. Happy to say that
we've been there for 34 years now as of July.
Repeat your question with the acoustic? Yeah, of course. Uh,
the, the concept of amplified music amped sound more, more
falls under that. So just wondering what kind of digging
a little bit deeper into hopefully your ideas of live
entertainment. Are you guys planning to have like acoustic sets
or like maybe full bands or middle of both? Not
really pushing so much for live music, more for entertainment
for, um, games. Bingo. Um, trivia night. A lot of
times when we'll have a wedding, they want to know,
Hey, can we have someone play on the patio at
spur of the moment. Are we going to be having
rock bands here? No. It's something where we just want
to have the option if we want to play music
on a special weekend. We want to be able to
do this. Very cool. Thank you. Yeah. Uh, the forums
was my grandmother's favorite place to go eat dinner and
lunch. Uh, I really, uh, like the Fred zucchini. I've
heard you've been an incredible neighbor in regards to anything.
So just continuing to be responsive and everything, everyone's really
spoken high praises of you because that was the first
thing that I brought up to staff was like, you
know, the live music joint I worked at was right
next to senior assisted living center, um, it was crazy
that we even were there half the time because we
did have rock bands and whatnot. But your reputation proceeds
you, Matt. So my neighbors are my number one concern
over there. Um, Mr. Miller that owns the apartments. I've
been good friends with him for over 30 years. Almost
everyone in the apartment complex house my cell phone number.
All the neighbors around there have my cell number. And
I tell them if the issue, if you hear something
going on or if you see something, call me directly.
I want to handle it. And I've been a hands
- on owner since day one. I took over this
place. Thank you, sir. And I appreciate you. Thank you.
Pretend fisher, please. Thank you, Matt. So I appreciate your
honesty and how you conduct your business. I agree. It's
been a benefit to the city the way the form
continues to redesign, redevelop, uh, it is a beautiful place
for people to enjoy Imperial Beach. And I shared some
concerns. I'm grateful for Council Member Nakawatose talking about what
type of music, you know, and type of things that
would happen. We have seen, um, a few different places.
I won't say abuse, but push it to the very
limit when they have live permits. And I think you're
seeing the same. You're aware of those as well, but
it sounds like you have a great relationship with, uh,
with those around you. And that's hard. Um, I noticed
that there was a, uh, during the presentation talked about
having decimal monitors on the patty, which I think will
help key everything in. Obviously, you know, it's a conditional
use permit, uh, the language in there that helps everybody
keep each other on this. And, you know, provides, um,
cure for any, any issues that may come up. And
obviously you're a willing owner to help guide through any
things that might have concerns in the committee. So again,
I'm in favor and I want to thank you for
being out here and representing the CD. Well, thank you.
I appreciate that very much. Thank you. All right. Thank
you for your questions. I don't have any questions directly
for you. I do want to encourage you to continue
to promote your business and, you know, help the city
help you, uh, bring visitors to the city, um, even,
even when our, maybe our beaches are closed sometimes, uh,
most of the time, um, but our businesses are always
open. So, uh, I appreciate you coming out this evening.
And I appreciate you stepping forward. So. Thank you for
taking the time. Yes, of course. Okay. So at this
time I will look for a motion or a vote
and a vote. A second. I'll make the motion mayor.
Can I get a second? I'll second. You. Please vote.
And please lock in your votes. Motion carried unanimously by
those present seabury absent. And Mr. Mayor for clarification, that
was for the adoption of Resolution number 2026 - 2026
001 and Resolution 2026 084. Yes. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you again. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. We're
going to move on to reports. And as was mentioned
earlier, we're going to reorder, uh, and bring the e
- bike discussion up first. And so with that, I
will turn it over to City Manager Foltz for, uh,
presentation of the item. Uh, thank you Mayor and members
of the Council. This is a continuation of a discussion
that was had earlier this year regarding e - bikes,
uh, where the council requested that staff look into additional
information. Uh, every word here. Some of it's for reference
for later if needed, uh, but more or less, in
our current code, bicycles and e - bikes, they're treated
the same, uh, our code does not reference e bikes
at all. Uh, bicycles and e - bikes are supposed
to be meeting the same traffic, uh, laws and signs
that are on the roadway today. Cities can, however, adopt
additional regulations. And that's what's being discussed tonight. Uh, and
in January, that's when council provided additional direction of staff.
So the intent of this meeting is to provide some
additional information, get additional direction from the council. Uh, so
our current code is very interesting with regards to what
a bicycle is defined as. For our current code, it
talks about, uh, it's being propelled by a human power.
But then it says it either has two or three
wheels, one of which is at least 20 inches in
diameter. And then it has a frame size of at
least 14 inches or having four wheels or more. Uh,
so it's, we've seen many bicycles out there with different
wheel sizes and but then they can come and say
that's not a bicycle. So some clean up on that
language, uh, would be appropriate. State law says, uh, bike
is one or more wheels and no wheel size. Right
now in our current code, bicycles are prohibited from writing
on the sidewalk in business districts. The peer and then
public parks and facilities. Uh, the code also, uh, requires
licensing, uh, but, uh, there is a law that was
passed that says we were not allowed to do a
licensing. So it prohibits that. Uh, so our current municipal
code is not compliant. It would need to be updated
to comply with current law. Uh, so this, uh, this
slide here shows the current definitions for, uh, e -
bikes today. There's three different types. There's the class one,
which is pedal assisted. Um, and then it only provides
the motor assistance when you're pedaling. There's no minimum age.
Helmets are required for individuals under 18. There's a 20
mile per hour max limit. Uh, and it's allowed to
go wherever bicycles are permitted. The class two has the
throttle assistance. Uh, and again, it has the motor that
also assists to propel the bicycle, uh, with pedals. No
minimum age again. Helmets are required for individuals under 18,
20 miles per hour max limit, uh, for speed. And
again, they're allowed wherever bicycles are allowed. And then the
class three's a little different. It's pedal assisted. It has
a speedometer. It's motor assistance, uh, when pedaling, uh, but
it can't, uh, it doesn't have a throttle. Uh, the
minimum age for that type of class is 16 years
old. It's a higher speed limit of 28 miles an
hour. And then all ages must, uh, wear a helmet.
So, uh, e bikes. We also want to note their
exempt from drivers licenses. License plates and insurance requirements. That's
just per state law. Uh, and you also can't have
a passenger unless the separate seat. Again, that's just per
law. Uh, there's variety of state laws that cover the
regulation of bicycles, which includes e bikes, uh, the, uh,
there's certain vehicles that are not included, uh, in the
e - bike discussion as well under state law. Uh,
so, uh, one of the discussions here is, uh, vehicle
with two or three wheels powered by an electric motors
that's intended by the manufacturer to be modifiable to attain
speed greater than 20 miles an hour. That's, that's not
any bike. That's not allowed a vehicle that's modified to
atterrate in 25 miles or 20 miles an hour on
a motor, uh, alone without the pedals. That's, that's not
an e - bike either. Uh, and then a vehicle
that's modified to have, uh, the pedals completely removed. So
none of those are e - bikes. Just wanted to
make sure council is aware of those. Uh, there's also
separate designation of e - scooters. Those have no pedals.
Uh, there's an electric motor. Generally, it's 15 miles per
hour, a maximum speed limit. Uh, they're prohibited on sidewalks
except to enter and leave adjacent properties. Uh, you do
need a helmet if you're under 18 years old. The
minimum HTUs are 16 years old. There are not allowed
to have passengers. Uh, you actually do need a driver's
license or instruction permit to utilize an e - scooter.
Uh, and, uh, the state, the law specifically mentions that
the financial responsibility registration or license plate requirements for e
scooters. Uh, this just references a flyer that the sheriffs,
uh, department has created to inform people about, uh, e
- bikes, safety requirements. And then what the classes are
and then what is not any bike. And that's in
the bottom right hand corner on the third, uh, slide,
uh, picture there, the motor license required for these different
types mopeds, et cetera. Uh, and this just continues to
fly her. Uh, there is an assembly bill that was
passed. Uh, that allows for additional regulations beyond what we
just described. And this is the San Diego Electric Bicycle
Safety Pilot program. It allows agencies in San Diego County
specifically to adopt regulations, prohibiting persons under 12 from operating
a class one or two e - bike. You have
to have a public information campaign with at least 30,
uh, 30 calendar days, uh, for that campaign. If you
get a violation, uh, within the first 60 days, it's
a warning after that. There's a fine of 25 dollars.
Agencies also have to submit a report to the legislature.
The agencies have to report it to the county, the
county then, uh, reports it to the legislator. Uh, and,
uh, the data that's collected is traffic seltzer violations results
from traffic stops. The time persons was stopped while allegedly
being under 12, but was found to be over the
age limit. Description of warnings or violations cited. If an
arrest or traffic stop is made, document perceived race, ethnicity,
gender in approximate age. Detail the actions by the police
officer, uh, number of times a person opted to complete
training in lieu of the fine. And then the number
of times person under 12 was involved in severe crasher
injury prior and after the adopter regulations. Uh, so what
are our neighbors doing? This was discussed last time, but
there has been some change. And that's why it took
some time to, uh, come back to the council. We
have been tracking what San Diego's doing because there are,
there are direct adjacent neighbor. Um, Carl's Bad Schulivista, Cornato,
LaMESA, POUAY, now San Diego, San Marcos and Santee all
past ordinances, uh, to prohibit the use of the e
- bikes under 12 years old. Uh, for Coronado, they're
prohibited also in different areas. Sidewalks beaches parks and then
the different areas noted here. Um, the writers can walk
their e - bikes in those areas. Uh, for Class
1 and 2, the writers have to be over 12
for class 3, 16. Um, and then for Chula Vista,
it's very similar in those regards with those limitations because
they've also adopted AB2234. San Diego has very similar rules.
Uh, they've also prohibited under 12 years old for Class
1 and 2. Um, and, uh, they're provided the public
education campaign. This just has some of the dates where
it went into effect. And that's just very recently August
13th is where those regulations went into effect. Um, they
also, uh, provide the same requirements within the law that
allows for, uh, someone to take a class if they
receive a fine things along those lines. Uh, ekes are
allowed, uh, in bike lanes, roads and most bike paths
in San Diego, but they're generally not allowed on sidewalks,
near businesses or crosswalks, which are, uh, mainly pedestrian areas.
Uh, these are just some of the flyers that Cornato
has created for their city so that people are aware
of what the regulations are. Uh, this is Cheul Vista.
They have a toolkit over they explain what, what the
regulations are within their city. Uh, this is San Diego's
website that describes the different laws and safety tips, uh,
within the city. A lot of the different, the cities
have very similar information because it's a geared specifically to
state law and what the parameters of their cities are.
So there are some considerations that the city council can
have with regards to regulations within the city versus our
municipal code. We mentioned the definitions earlier. They're fairly outdated.
They don't, they didn't even contemplate e bikes or e
- scooters or anything along those lines. Uh, so we
would recommend having a definition for a bicycle that's more
consistent with state law. Having definitions for electric bicycles consistent
with state law. Same with the electric scooter, uh, we
would also recommend Electric Mobility devices. We see a lot
of, uh, unicycles or hoverboards or even electronic skateboards. Uh,
so having a definition for that would assist with our
regulations. And allowing people to know what they can and
cannot use and what areas. Uh, but also defining a
sidewalk and what a sidewalk is, uh, we have some
different areas in the city such as the boardwalk on
Imperial Leech Boulevard by the estuary. That was designed to
actually allow for a bicycles. So that's, that would be
something that we'd want some guidance on to make sure,
are we going to not include using e bikes or
e - scooters or eMobility devices in those areas? Or
will we allow for, uh, use of those areas? Uh,
so this goes into some of the, uh, regulations that
can be considered by the council or at least request
that staff look into it further. Expanding bicycle restrictions to
all areas of parks and public facilities, not just the
pedestrian areas, uh, because right now it mainly says pedestrian
areas. Uh, so we could specifically, uh, state where eBikes
may or may not be allowed or if they're prohibited.
Same with the E. Scooters and eMobility devices, uh, do
we want to prohibit them from playgrounds? Uh, from all
park spaces, uh, from fields and trails, uh, from the
entire Pure Plaza area, the pier, um, uh, or any
other areas that's contemplated, um, I will note at sports
park facility, uh, we just redid the sports park area.
We did brand new concrete and there are tire marks
all over that new concrete area. Uh, it would assist
to have a clear definition within our code so that
we could help, um, enforce that. Council can consider prohibiting
e bikes. E. Scooters mobility devices on all sidewalks if
they so choose or define areas where they may locate,
uh, we could designate, uh, additional no writing areas such
as the beachfront on the, on the sand itself, uh,
schools at the skate park. Right now we do see
e bikes using the skate park. It's not designed for
such use. So that'd be a consideration. And also the
board walk that I mentioned earlier, uh, or are there
any other hypodesrian activity area? Uh, Council could consider requiring
e bikes, e - scooters or e - mobility devices
to be walked, uh, rather than written in all areas
that we just described parks, uh, facilities, uh, pedestrian area,
uh, only, uh, installing new signage, uh, throughout our public
facilities. A lot of it's old and outdated. It doesn't
really say, uh, e - bikes, rescooters. That many would
be familiar with, uh, and then also ensuring that operators
aren't blocking ADA access or obstructing any paths of travel.
Uh, SAFE operation is another consideration that the Council can
consider with, with guidelines. Uh, there are current California vehicle
code requirements for reckless driving and things along those lines.
Uh, but, uh, we can specifically state within the ordinance
the intent. Would the Council want to consider traveling in
the same direction of motor vehicle traffic at all times,
even if they're on a sidewalk, if it's loud, um,
uh, same with bicycle lanes, uh, we're writing this permitted
yielding the right way to pedestrians. Again, that's a law,
but specifically noting it within an ordinance at the city
can utilize. Operate at a speed that's reasonable and prudent
for existing conditions. Limits side by side writing to no
more than two, except that during city approved events or
other approved events, uh, maintaining at least one hand, uh,
on the handlebars except when signaling providing an audible warning
when overtaking pedestrians on shared use facilities. And, uh, following
direction by council, we will look at it legally to
find out what, what language can we come back with
to the Council to ensure that we're not overstepping state
law, but supplementing it in an appropriate way. We talked
about reckless writing and street takeovers. Some of the complaints
we often receive are seeing people doing wheelies, which seem
very unsafe and the right of way burnouts, jumping, drifting,
exhibitions of speed, other stunt writing unsafe turning movements, um,
impeding pedestrians, bicyclists, motorists, uh, carrying passengers, uh, unless the
bicycles designed for it, equipped for that purpose, towing others.
We see that, uh, often, uh, so we can consider
language that would allow for enforcement of that. Uh, and
then also utilizing handheld mobile phones, uh, or other electronic
communication devices when they're using one of these, uh, either
a bicycle or one of the e devices that we
talked about. Or even organizing an event that, uh, what
purposely, uh, not comply with the ordinance. Uh, but staff
would recommend some other measures that would allow for, um,
some flexibility as well. And that's this temporary operational authority.
It would, it would allow the city manager to temporarily
modify or suspend these rules, uh, in the purpose of
public safety. So if during a permitted special event or
an emergency or unusual traffic conditions or other circumstances, uh,
these rules can be a temporarily adjusted, uh, just based
on that current situation that the cities undergoing, um, uh,
at the designation of the City manager, if, if, uh,
requested by the Council. And then of course public education,
uh, letting the community know what's being considered, um, informing
people of, uh, educational warnings for first time if an
ordinance is adopted, uh, ensuring again, that the intent is
safety first and foremost, not necessarily getting a fine or
anything along those lines. But safety is paramount. Uh, so
that concludes staff report. We request that the Council provide
direction on some of these regulations. Um, and, uh, City
staff can come back with a draft ordinance or other
considerations. Uh, and also cleaning up that ordinance that is
not compliant, uh, to date. Um, and, uh, some of
the general topics is to update the municipal code. And
then I have some of the bullet points there that
we went over just in case we want to reference
it. Uh, this concludes staff's report. Council member Nakawat is
a has collected some survey information that she would like
to present on at this time. Thank you, Dilar. I
always like a good community survey and I was happy
to say that this had a pretty high engagement of
one. Data is, I believe, published and in the back
for anyone that wants to reference it. And I said,
if I spelled anything wrong, uh, don't tell me in
public, tell me later. Uh, I had the great pleasure
of hosting this just a bit of a methodology of
what I did. So just to try and maximize my
participation and try and reach a broad section of the
community, I promoted it through, um, comprehensive digital outreach campaign.
My survey was posted twice across my personal, um, social
media platforms, including Facebook, Instagram, ex - formally as Twitter,
LinkedIn and next door. In addition, I posted the survey,
um, to my social media stories on three separate occasions
at three separate times to try and encourage and increase
the visibility and encourage participation through the outreach period. Um,
I also posted in all of our relevant IBlocal happenings
groups and everything like that to just encourage, um, people
to fill it out. So I was happy to say
in that period, I was able to receive 92 responses,
um, 76 respondents asking to see the survey results. Um,
in terms of respondent demographics, it was, uh, 32 of
drivers, uh, 18 of e - bike readers. Writers, excuse
me, parents and guardians 16 pedestrians 11 traditional cyclists. So
regular bicyclist, eight and other seven. Next slide, please. And
then in terms of age distribution of survey respondents, um,
65 plus crowd with 37 respondents, uh, 55 to 64,
18, 45 to 54, 17, 35 to 44, 13, 25
to 34, six and 18 to 24, which I was
hoping for a little bit more, uh, I had one.
Next slide, please. In terms of the e - bike
ownership among survey respondents, I thought that was really important.
Obviously, if you own an e - bike, I'd hope
you'd participate. Um, we had no of 57 respondents with
62 percent. And yes, with 35 respondents. Not not necessarily
in the slides, but just for the people, the primary
use that people use e - bikes for in our
community in terms of that responded to the survey was
recreation with transportation being second. Um, I had a sling
scale in regards to, uh, the survey, because I think
it's easier to, for people to kind of gauge what
they feel about either, I'm not really concerned or I
am really concerned. And so these were our top e
- bike safety concerns. And so I chose specifically from
the highly concerned to focus on, um, which was writers
ignoring the stop signs and traffic signals. Excessive speed, distracted
writing, helmet use, conflicts with pedestrians and multiple writers on
one e - bike, which is kind of a reflection
in terms of the staff report about complaints they received.
Next slide. Um, I just want to know that in
terms of the safety solutions, it was noted before, but
just to reiterate that youth licensing and certification is not
something we can allow. So my apologies for putting that
in the survey. I was going after Arminess full code
first. Um, so that was my fault. Um, but some
of the safety solutions that the community is looking to
see is increased enforcement speed limit enforcement, parent guardian education,
writer education, helmet campaigns, community awareness campaigns, better bike lanes
and then more signage. This kind of theme that we're
seeing is that there's obviously a strong desire from enforcement.
Some accountability from youth and definitely education before punishment in
regards to that. In terms of some of the open
- ended, um, I think it's really important for people
to kind of verbalize what they're interested in. So the
open - end comments, which was at the end of
the survey, trying to encourage people to ride in what
they thought might be the best solution or everything like
that, because I don't always have the best ideas. It's
definitely some of the constituents who give me the most.
But yeah, I thought it was a fairly good survey
that got ran. And I was, I was happy that
more people were engaged in it. And I think that's
it. Very, thank you for taking the time and the
effort to put that all together and to collate the
data and, uh, provide that presentation. Um. We have public
speakers. I have one public speaker card. Um, we also
had correspondence provided to, uh, the City. Pardon me. Been
made available to the staff and also those in the
room that came from Senator Brilhart. We thank her for
that. Um, the public speaker card I have is for
Lynn Fisher. So if you want to go ahead and,
uh, come up. Get Eden Council staff, Lynn Fisher, resident,
retired government analysts, executive special projects. I just want to
commend Councilwoman Nakatuase for following through and sharing the outcome
of the eBite Community Survey. I was really looking forward
to this. I hope the city puts these results on
the website on the Cities website so that residents can
clearly find them. And don't just leave them on the
agenda because it's really difficult for residents to find that
information on the agenda. Um, uh, PAS councils used to
involve residents very often in open workshops and surveys. And
they use those outcomes of those resources to build better
city reports and documents. And we haven't really seen that
many outreaches like this lately. So this was really refreshing
to see this in many of us participated. So I
would really like to see a return to this approach.
So that if you want, if you want to see
more of us here in this room, then talk to
us more. And so this was a really refreshing approach.
And we participated. So, um, I want to thank the
Councilwoman again for stepping up here and trying to inspire
people to take part and show up. So it's really
appreciated. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for
your comments. Do we have any speakers online? Yes, Mr.
Mayor, we have one raised hand and it's truth. Please
proceed. Truth, please begin. Hi there. I'm beginning. So yes,
include the other e devices into the language. I don't
know about wheels near the astroy kind of questionable. There
are a lot of pedestrians, but at the same time,
if it's made for it, but then I guess you
can't go back on your word. Definitely not on the
tier because that not only does it put pedestrians at
risk, it does damage to the pier. Everybody knows lithium
is a much heavier than anything else. So I personally
can't stand when I see them even at the core
noticery landing on that little period there. It's just, I
see bad things happening. And don't forget, you have to
put up signs where you say no. The court of
San Diego does that. So the signs are very obvious,
but don't do any restrictions if you're not alerting the
people to at first. Uh, but my feeling about eBay
is that they should just be banned for anyone under
the age of 18. They're essentially no different than mopeds,
vespas and motorcycles. And so should be subject to the
same regulations. Uh, there's nothing wrong with a regular bike
for a child. It's actually way more affordable. But that's
not to say that children are the only problem. Cause
I can't tell you how many adults I've seen that
have ridden in the opposite direction of traffic. Then made
an illegal turn in the opposite direction of traffic. So
traffic enforcement doesn't usually happen with bicycles. It happens with
vehicles, right? And that is my point. I think even
banny evites from sidewalks parks peers, et cetera is a
sign that they're not safe toys. They're dangerous vehicles. Along
with future, state approved licenses. I'm hoping for that. I
support required education courses, fines and empowending bikes. Because the
breath on eBox need to face all of those things.
The parents also need to face punishment when their child
does something wrong. I do not accept e - bikers
taking over streets and destroying rows and property and then
not facing punishment for. They need to pay damages. Um,
something else that's just distantly related that has never been
addressed is e. by tontransit or e. scooters or whatever
it is. They take up tons of room. I just
want you to consider that wherever that will be applicable
at some point MTS. And I wanted to point out,
uh, all of Marniko's misspellings because I saw a lot.
And I'm just kidding. Uh, you did a great job
of the survey in presentation. Thanks for doing that. Um,
and I also want to point out that after you
turn 18, you no longer have to wear a helmet.
Because as soon as you become an adult, your brain,
it just no longer matters. Don't worry about it. Thank
you. Thank you for your comments. All right. We're going
to go to City Council discussion. Um, I think Councilmer
Lavalazalis is ready to go. Um. I, I,
I believe that we do have to make. Make it
safer in our city. So personally, um, this past Christmas,
my son. Convinced my 14 year old son convinced me
to purchase him an e - bike. April 12th, he
was at urgent care. So he fessed up that he
was trying to pop Willies. So. Like I see the
kids popping Willies everywhere. And I was drawn to it.
So I went home and got on my bike. And
I can't pop Willies. I was like, how do they
do it and make it look so easy? So I
think a lot of why these kids are doing that
is because it's part of that acceptance. And they want
to be accepted in their friends are doing it. So,
um, we just have to work together to make it
safer, not necessarily only for the people that the kids
that are writing these, um, e - bikes. But for
the residents as well. Because I've seen kids go through
peer plaza and they don't necessarily care. And the people
that are out there walking with their kids or dogs,
um, and I'm really looking forward to us working together
as a group. To figure out exactly what we need
to do to make everyone safer on the bikes as
well as people and our residents in the city. So
that's all I have. Great. Thank you for this comments
and that personal observation. Council Member Nakawata say thank you
Mayor. Um, in no particular order, I've just been taking
notes after the last few weeks in regards to this,
uh, some of the direction that I would personally like
to see is again, yes, incorporating electrical mobility devices if
we're going to update the code. We should include all
of the electronic devices coming up. I know I have
quite a few lovely salesmen that come on those little
unicycle things up and down my road. Um, I really
do want to agree on posting online in regards to
social media and website and finding easier for our constituents
to say like they get a little pop up. Hey
this new e - bike ordinances happening. This is where
you can find the information on it. I think pictures
are really helpful. I was, I really like seeing that
a lot of these tool kits are including more, um,
pictures of things and just examples of stuff. If you
ask me to pick a lineup of a class three
e - bike in a lineup, I would not know
what necessary to look for. So anything like that is
helpful. I do agree that I don't think we can
enforce everything without some kind of large educational component as
well as updating Republic signage first. I think a lot
of people are frustrated to see a lot of new
meters appear in a certain park in another city without
there really being educational component that people are going to
have to pay for that stuff. So really want to
make sure that we have updated that all of that
before we start enforcing and everything. Um, for me personally,
because it's, it's in the district that, that area by
the estuary, I don't really consider it being smart for,
um, eBikes to be on. Specifically just because we, I
went and physically saw also, um, at the sports park,
the tire marks that are becoming more and more in
apparent there. There's a lot of areas there that I
think that we're going to have to then keep starting
to clean up more in public works is going to
have to get more involved in and cleaning up in
that area. I would also probably prefer no e -
bikes on, on sidewalks in those regards. Uh, some of
the reckless writing, uh, my street is definitely a road
that is currently getting a lot of e - bikes
on really more so, um, frustration with how fast they're
going, especially not only on my street, but in the
history as well, no helmets. And two to three passengers
on some of these bikes is just a little bit
scary. I agree that having it defined that it should
be, if it's not an additional seat, um, I know
that the age component, uh, comes up pretty often. And
I'm, I'm not, I'm going to be perfectly frank. I'm,
I'm not a mother. I don't have kids or anything
like that. I've talked with quite a few of our
neighbors that I've pinned now that have e - bikes
and writers as a family. I just don't really like
the concept of splitting up a family that rides together.
There are families, in my opinion, and kids now that
are respecting the roles in law. For me, I don't
see it a parent to make an age enforcement on
that. I do think some responsibility does need to come
not only down to youth. But as well as the
parents and guardians themselves in that, um, I'm all for
an incredible, great community workshop. I love that. Um, county
supervisor, Terra Lost Remorer did one, I believe with SIPS
Ranch in regards to an education, kind of teaching parents
what are. The trends happening in the emergency rooms and
everything like that. And I had reached out to, um,
sharp to see if they were interested in hosting something
similar here. And they were. So I love a good
community workshop and would really like to see that and
have our best we can educate more. It's hard to
change stuff that we've done forever. Um, National IITOL. I
realized that I've been breaking the no bikes in the
park rule since I was very little, uh, because I've
definitely ridden my bike through there all the time. Um,
so that's definitely a component that we need to try
and encourage our neighbors and whatnot that there is going
to be having a little bit of change in the
community and how we can best move forward with that.
Those are really the things that I think were the
most in terms of council direction that I thought was
really important to address and clarify. So thank you. Thank
you for your comments. Mayor Pro Tem Fisher. You know,
this is always such a discussion with so much Tom
Pack looking at, you know, what do we draft as
an ordinance? What do we change municipal code out? What
is what? Again, the, as I'm sitting here, I'm thinking,
so if a 12 year old has a e -
bike and can't write on the sidewalk, we're going to
push him into traffic. To me, that's crazy. Absolutely crazy.
You know, and I think that, you know, the couple
of things that I just want to get kind of
is housekeeping. I agree with, uh, Mrs. Fisher and Councilmember
Nakawa. I say perhaps a good comedian outreach with service
well. The data you collected in years. I understand where
it comes from, but again, most of the people were
older people who don't have e - bikes. And we
see families throughout our community writing e - bikes. Um,
and I agree that, you know, how do you split
up a family? You know, maybe it's a 12 and
end or with supervisions type of thing. But again, I
sit there and yesterday or the other day before I
was leaving City Hall. And I had a guy in
the bike lane on a mobility scooter. It's only form
of transportation. He's like, Hey, don't hit me. I'm going
slow, but I'm going as fast as I can. He
was probably going seven miles an hour. So how, how,
I understand we wanted to find stuff. But, you know,
how do we get to the point where it's even,
how do we enforce it? I just don't know. And
you know, when it comes down to assembly bill, twelve,
thirty, again, another bill that comes our way tells us
to do his death and has, I'm assuming the funding,
right? Is there no funding. Because there's never any funding
with assembly bills. You have to do all this outreach
education, put up signs, do this, that, um, but if
it's okay, I do have a question for Lieutenant Galli.
Because I just want to understand, because part of 22,
34 is reporting the data would be collected in any
infraction. So if you find some teen who's driving writing
an e - bike recklessly, what does that look like
if they were to be stopped, are they actually present
identification? Are their parents called? What's, maybe you could just
help me out. Jerk him. Excuse me, Mayor City Council.
Uh, it could be a variety of those things. I
mean, it just depends. Does the teen have valid license
on them or any kind of identification at all? So
sometimes it's just verbal. Whatever, whatever biographical information that we
need to fill out the citation or traffic accident is
sometimes just verbal. And we do our best to vet
that. Hopefully we can call responsible parent to the scene
to sort of vet that information. But sometimes that's kind
of the best we can do because obviously people under
the age of 16, I mean, let's just say a
school ID or something that they have may not be
equipped with that. So I don't know if that answers
your question. No, that kind of leads me to where
I thought it would. That even the enforcement component is
mediocre at best. And that has anything to do with
our law enforcement team. Uh, it's because it's just 13
year olds don't carry AD on them normally. You know,
and again, tracking this stuff for purposes. And I understand
the requirements for, for 2234 are just very vague, uh,
but again, does it solve the problem? You know, if
you look at, for me, the biggest problem is we
allow these e - bikes to be sold at a
great cost to whoever wants to buy them without any
form of registration or anything. If California was smart, they
would require these parents who were buying these bikes. For
their kids. To make sure that they're registered. They understand
that the parents need the training before the kid gets
the bike. Because I think that there's a big part
that we're missing here. Because on the city level, we're
not going to be able to fix this. On the
printal level, that's where the responsibility is. So if the
parent decides to spend, I don't know what it, what
does an e - by - cost? My first five
cars didn't cost more than 1200 dollars. But, you know,
my whole thing is, is like, we should really look
at what can the state do to require. People to
register and get that education before you buy an e
- bike for your 16 - year - old, your
12 - year - old, you should be the one
having to understand what the training looks like. You know,
if you buy a car for your kid, it's a
little bit different, but then you have insurance. You have
to make sure they're licensed. We're providing something for somebody
to do the unthinkable, you know, 100 years ago, nobody
went 20 miles an hour. And if you did, you
know, when first cars came out, people thought it was
crazy that they're, you know, do an 18 miles an
hour. That's faster than the horse carriage could ever take
them. They're going to kill everybody. And, you know, and
they think they were right in some respects. But we're
going to do millennium where it's a convenience. For kids
to have. And they don't have the responsibility that goes
along with it. You know, so that's kind of my
thoughts on there. I think there should be age limits
for kids, but again. What's the age limit? And how
do we push everybody off the side? There's times I
dried my bike around town. I'm right on a sidewalk.
Cause I sure can get into traffic. So again, I
know that we're not going to be out there. We're
not going to have, uh, one of our shares deputies
on every corner pulling people over. And, um, this helps
protect us when something goes wrong. Um, but again, it
doesn't hit the thing. Because if we wait for something
to go wrong, the near misses are just as important
in some respects. So, um, I'm in favor if I
ever eating age restrictions for classes one and two are
for the class one to two e bikes. Um, as
far as no raid areas, I agree, pure plaza, the
pier. People ride bikes up and down the pier all
the time, uh, plate ground areas. Uh, you know, the
parks, I'm totally with you. I've ridden my bike through
veterans park all the time. Um, but again, you know,
I think the signage is there. And again, most of
the time kids ride their e - bikes to the
park, they're not hurting anybody, but there's at least some
point if we need enforcement that's there. Um, skate park.
I agree upon. Um, but no, I think that, you
know, first and foremost, we need to have some larger
public outreach events. To gather more information. Because again, we're
looking at, do we, you know, we have to follow
California vehicle. There's some state laws. There's A. B. 22,
34 if you want to hop on to. We're going
to put an ordinance out and change our municipal code.
There's a lot to unpack. Will it delay in passing
an ordinance. Have any catastrophic effect? In my opinion, no,
because it's been, I think, six months since we ate
seven or eight months since we talked about this originally,
um, and so if we were to craft it together,
because I'm with you, I don't know if we always
have the right answers from the dais. Um, there are
some very smart community members out there who love to
share with us their idea. So, um, so, you know,
again, I think there are some things that we could
do right away at least get diving it down to
where, um, staff has given us all this information, but
I, I think that again, if i were to figure
out the biggest picture, I think the response fee is
with the parents and the purchaser of the e -
bike. And, you know, I don't know if we talked
parallel representatives and start pushing some type of assembly build
that requires the education to start from the initial purchase.
Um, I've never owned a firearm, never bought one, but
I don't know if there, did they require that when
you buy a firearm. That you have to have education.
So, you know, we, we, we look at this. And
again, we understand the, the gravity of owning a firearm
and the severity of the actions in the wrong hands
or even in the right hands with misintended consequences, uh,
have. So, you know, like I said, I would love
to find somebody at the state level that we could
push to get a build playoff. Because I think that's
our best bet. Our best bet is education of the
parents and the responsibility of holding them accountable and crafting
language from a legislative point that would hold them ultimately
countable because you can't just take something that's harmful. Give
it to your kid and say, well, they have the
mind of their own. You know, I've had enough kids
to know that most teenagers don't have much of a
mind of their own. They're very influence by the group
of people and what they see on the internet. So
I'll leave it at that. Great. Thank you for that
share. And, uh, I did have a question, another question
for the lieutenant. Um, you know, I think a lot
of the concerns and sort of the driving energy behind
the age limit has to do with, uh, with fatalities
and accidents, um, can you give us any kind of
maybe even just anecdotal conversation about what you've seen in
the city of Imperial Beach relative to that? Have we
seen fatalities? Have we seen, um, you know, especially younger
kids younger than 12, um, involved in accidents that are
serious that, um, that you guys come across or have
to call out for, uh, emergency aid? Yeah. I can't
really speak back to, you know, prior to my assignment
here, uh, so we're looking at probably about 15, 16
months since I've been here. I don't recall, I don't
recall any specific, at least eBike fatality. Certainly we've had
our share of, you know, accidents that some have been
serious, some have been minor. Um, but in comparison to
some of the other jurisdictions that I've heard about, I've
not seen the volume in some of those jurisdictions. It's
not to say it doesn't happen here, but it does.
But I'd have to really dive deeper into some of
the, those statistics to really get you a solid answer.
Okay. I was just curious off the top. I know,
uh, I've read quite a few reports on, you know,
the spike and emergency room visits and the age is
affected are sometimes even under 10, um, which is kind
of shocking that some adult would give a 10 year
old e - bike or at least allow them to
use it without, without proper training. Um, I think what
I'm hearing across the dias here is, um, you know,
the information, um, even though we've had opportunities to read
it and go through it. I think A. B. 2234,
um, tried to do a good job. I don't know
that it's a the best fit for our community. Um,
I've heard several council members in public speakers talk about
having a workshop. Um, I think that, that would probably
be a good idea. Um, and to, uh, thank again,
Council Member Nakawa, the safe for her survey. I think,
um, it was a little lopsided from an age point
of view. And it, it maybe didn't get as many
users, actual users of e - bikes. And I think
that's an important segment of the population that we need
to, you know, pull into this conversation. Um, so I,
you know, while I think the good stuff in here,
certainly we need to update our, our municipal codes for,
you know, reasons that, you know, things of aged out
and new technologies have come in. Those things certainly need
to happen. And that could start right away. But I
think, um, you know, my feeling is, um, you know,
we need to have more conversation to understand, um, some,
some of the issues specifically education is a big issue.
Um, you know, I mean, if we can engage the
community and maybe even the school district somehow into providing
some kind of educational element, um, to help support whatever
ordinance as we do end up coming, uh, forward with,
I think we've been in a much better position as
opposed to kind of coming down with the big hammer
and just saying you shall not, you shall not, you
shall not. Because, you know, in the end, it's not
the parents, the people who typically read this stuff. It's
going to be the teenagers, right? Their kids, um, you
know, let's, let's be real. We don't always have control
of our, uh, of our youngsters or our teenagers even.
And so, um, that would be kind of my direction
to staff at this point. There's a ton of information,
a lot of good information in here. Um, again, the
survey, I think is a good start. I think it
gives us a good kind of a peek into, um,
the people who are sort of maybe the most motivated
to provide a response. Like, you know, older people who
are seeing this activity and are, you know, either upset
or, or disturbed by it. And I think, um, that
may have initiated a lot of those responses. But again,
um, back to Council Member Nakawa, they say you had
a comment. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, one of the
things I just want to note, uh, cause it's, it
was brought up in, in terms of written comment, but
also some of the conversations that I had with constituents.
Um, and this isn't to make an excuse for us
not necessarily having the data, but also explaining the concept
of, uh, not reported data. And so I always like
to joke that I always hear all of my constituent
casework from like Facebook. It's not from my official email
or anything. It's, uh, you know, Hey Modico, uh, there's
a Paul hole here. Can you have someone go fix
it? Yeah. Sure. Thanks for the picture. Appreciate it. There's
so much data that is unreported. And so when I
see the kids speeding down my, you know, my street,
my first concept isn't, I'm going to report it to
the non - emergency line. And so I just want
us to also see that's a portion of like, I
think people are asking for local data. There's plenty of
stuff that is not getting reported, right? Um, also the
concept of if you look at who's even just emergency
room spikes, um, unfortunately, uh, when my sister - in
- law got hurt here in town, they didn't send
her to somewhere local. They actually took her all the
way up to like Scripps. And it was so incredibly
far. And I thought it was weird because there was
multiple hospitals before then. But that's where she went for
her emergency room. And so really just trying to also
remind ourselves in the concept of unreported data and some
of the stuff that we're not having. Again, I don't
want to make an excuse for necessary having that. I
think it's just important to discuss as someone that looks
on the data. And again, when I first saw this,
I was like, Oh, great. Like nobody that I was
thinking that the people that I was hoping, which try
and participate in this little bit more is again, with
those parents, with some of their families that rides kids
and everything, we see them all the time during, you
know, a lot of these, not parades, but like these
bike, uh, parades and everything. And so that was kind
of the, the group that I was really hoping would
come up front and speak to this. I'm hoping to
try and get more people to participate in some way
and some capacity in that. Because they have more stick
in the game. They're currently with parents. They have four,
maybe five, um, eBoy sits in their families, but just
wanted to note kind of the unreported data, uh, I
think people are interested in seeing, but it could also
be in the concept just overall bad data, right? With
any form of lack of reporting or just the connections
of seeing where people go and potential HIPAA violations, that's
just something that we might not be seeing either. Thank
you. Gotcha. Great. Um, I did have one of the
questions for Lieutenant Galley. Is there currently an eBay sales
or a vendor here in City of Imperial Beach anymore?
I know there was rad bikes or e - rad
bikes. I think they're movie. Okay. Okay. I was just
trying to think of maybe there was another source of
data that we could mine. Um, you know, whether it
be sale. I mean, obviously they can't give away personal
information, but, um, another place where we can go to
try to draw out that crowd that we're not seemingly.
I'd be back shut down. Okay. All right. Thank you,
sir. All right. I think it would be good to
somehow reach out to the high school district. Sweet water
and see if they would be able to help us
participate. Maybe pass long surveys. Obviously, you know, they, the
majority of people were talking about crafting something for probably
attend their schools and to see their insight. Cause I
think having the ballots of seeing what they're seeing. Um,
is important. Um, and hopefully their high school brain hasn't
just mushed out for them completely. If you offer free
food, they will come. Free pizza. Just saying. Free pizza
and monster drinks. All right. Um, I guess City Manager
Tyler Foltz. Do you feel like you have enough direction
or are we still looking for, um, more specificity? I
think we're good. Obviously. We needed to get more input
from the community. From, you mentioned the high school district.
We had met with the elementary school district too. But
we'll meet with them as well and consider ideas about
how to get more input from the community before we
come back to the council with additional recommendations. Okay. Sorry.
I think just in terms of those additional recommendations, because
I know people don't like nebulous, um, concepts or whatnot
is just maybe setting expectations of, of the timeline for
this. I think we'll also just be beneficial saying like,
Hey, this is one we're going to try. I know
we got to be flexible. You guys are incredibly busy.
Obviously running a city. So just, but I think any
terms of where we can be, um, explaining the concept
of a timeline and whatnot. I think we'll also be
beneficial for people. Cause then they can hopefully plan, uh,
to participate hopefully in some way or attend in anything.
I think we'll also be beneficial in terms of the
whenever we come back to council. Yeah. And I was
also going to mention, uh, when the lieutenant and I
have, our quarterly meeting in the community, we could certainly
bring that up as another topic. And, you know, request
feedback as opposed to waiting for someone to mention it
to us. Um, try to draw out some information and
some, uh, some community sort of, uh, feelings. All right.
All right. Anything else do we need to do on
this item? No? Okay. We are going to take a
10 minute recess. We're awaiting a special guest speaker coming
in from Chula Vista. So if you'll excuse this for
about 10 minutes, uh, we'll reconvene and move on with
our last couple of items. Thank you.
I don't have to gamble back. You can just call
back the. All right. We're going to come back to
order right now. Please take your seats. And if we
can close the back doors and we'll move on with
our last two items on our agenda this evening. Item
15B, or consideration of a memorandum of understanding with the
city of ChulaVista for Feathery Federal Legislative Advocacy Services related
to the Tijuana River Valley cross - border pollution crisis,
CAO - Cortez Martinez will present this item. Thank you.
Good evening, Mayor Council, Jale Cortes Martinez. This item is
an MOU with the City of Cholovista for federal legislative
advocacy service related to the Tijuana River Valley Cross Border
Pollution. So just a little bit of background. I know
everybody knows and is aware of that. We have a
sewage crisis. Imperial Beach specifically is the primary affected area
with these contaminated cross - border flows reaching the two
- one from the Tijuana River into our Pacific Ocean,
which is also costing our beach closures for nearly more
than five years. It's impacting public health, you know, obviously
water quality and economic situations. Our businesses and quality of
life are residents. And that visit Imperial Beach as well.
We all acknowledge that these are long - term solutions
that are required. Some of them have been set in
place. Specifically responsibility with the federal government funding infrastructure and
investments, policy and legislation. And then obviously some coronation with
Mexico as well. Imperial Beach does not have a state
or federal lobbyist. And so we feel that it's important
for federal presence that is specifically focused on the Tijuana
River crisis at the federal level. Before I get into
the partnership with related to this MOU, I wanted to
give you a little bit of background. It is not
uncommon for the City of Cholobus and Imperial Beach to
partner for many years. We've partnered on various matters, beginning
with the animal control contract. They've accepted our partnership for
multiple contracts on several occasions. And we thank them for
that. Just a few years ago, chill of awesome Imperial
Beach for staffing for their EMT, for REMTs, for their
facility when they just had open their ambulance services. And
now Imperial Beach is also in discussions with their staff
to have mutual agreement also on staffing levels for the
fire department at all levels, just given the facts that,
you know, recruitments at all CityWILL levels are difficult. So
I just wanted to give you a little bit of
background that it's not uncommon for agencies to partner. As
we have also partner in the past with Chulavista, the
port, Coronado, and similar advocacy when it comes to the
Tijuana River Valley many years ago. This particular item, though,
it's not recent. This has been in discussion with them
for the last two years or more. It began with
Mammacan, who is present here tonight and former Mayor Aguirre
currently supervisor, a yearA for the county. And the discussion
continued, obviously, with our current mayor, Mayor McKay. There is
a timeline that Chilibusa wanted to follow because they had
a state legislation or lobbyist, but their timeline of their
contract is about to expire Gene 30th. There were also
interested in having a federal lobbyist, which they currently don't
have. So the timeline had to kind of lined up.
And so that is why there was a little delay,
but the discussions and the partnership as far as the
priorities on the RFP and the scope of work maintained
within the last two years. So I do want to
thank staff or Chila Vista specifically for always working with
Imperial Beach and having check - in regular check -
ins with staff, because, um, we wanted to keep that
momentum and for them to understand that this is still
a priority for Imperial Beach. And I know both mayor,
me and McCann and Mayor McKay also continue that dialogue.
Um, so with that said. Tchilavista did proceed to provide
a comprehensive procurement for the federal lobbyist, including their state.
That is not part of this equation. This is just
for the federal lobbyists. They receive a total of five
proposals. Uh, we, staff of Imperial Beach along with other
staff from Chula Vista appointed both by both city managers.
We're part of the process. They review the proposals, the
review of the RFP. We sat in the evaluation and
the interview process. We then, um, were appointed by them
to come forward with the recommendation and both parties agreed
to, uh, select thorn run partners TRP to be the
federal advocacy firm for Imperial Beach and Cholevista. Again, TILA
Vista's having their own comprehensive legislative platform. And as part
of the RFP, they added a component related to the
Tijuana River. It was a separate response separate cost. So
they are going to hopefully consider their argument with TRP
at a future meeting. Um, I believe this month, if
I'm not mistaken, but this particular MOU is the partnership
between TILA Vista and Imperial Beach to enter into that
additional scope and reimbursement to the City of Cholevista for
these services. So this MOU does allow for Imperial Beach
to leverage this opportunity. With the agreement that they're going
to host with TRP. Uh, that gives us the opportunity
to provide federal priorities related to the Tijuana River Pollution
crisis. And obviously Chile Vista will be the lead agency
in partnership and Imperial Beach and ongoing communication and meetings
and discussions. So instead of each agency having their own,
um, representative DC, we felt like it would be more
advantageous to have a coordinated regional voice together in DC.
Since we are neighboring cities. The scope of service, I'm
not going to read all of these bullets, but there's
the federal advocacy services. What there are going to help
both parties. And then obviously the, uh, priorities that have
been indicated in the RFP. So one of the things
that I don't want to highlight is that they are
required to provide updates to both city councils. So Imperial
Beach and also Chill of Esta as well. The cost
for the first year, uh, which will begin, hopefully approximately
in September, um, so we're talking about 10 months. It's
a thousand dollars a month for Imperial Beach. That's approximately
10, 000 through the end of June 30th. That's for
the first year. Um, this is funding that already exists
through our operating budget, specifically in the city manager's budget
and the contingency account. Again, those contigenic accounts are set
aside for these type of emergencies or priorities. And it
is at the discretion and authority under the city manager's
level as well. Future extensions will require both parties to
agree on them as well. Um, there is a typo
on the actually staff report on year three. The agreement
actually extends to 231, 2031. So I just wanted to
make that correction. The dates that you see on the
screen are correct. There is a minor increase year after
year. So you'll see that it goes up from 100
to 1050. Stays 1050, then 1125. And then, um, 1200.
So, um, with that said, there's a contract that is
being proposed for five years. Um, again, overall the entire
agreement. It's on or about approximately 65, 000 dollars Now,
this does not include tribal expenses, but you know, we're
in modern years. Everything can be done electronically. So, uh,
I think mainly it would be our cost traveling to
DC with them coordinating all the meetings and representing. I
view that as us traveling more over there than them
over here. But again, they are open for that as
well. Now the termination, like 30 days, 60 day, 90
day. What happens as I explained earlier. TRP in chillavistar
entering to an agreement for such service as part of
the component, that MOU, it's agreed that TRP will provide
the service to imperial beach through chillovista. So at any
point, if there wanted to be a termination of service
that is an arrangement that Chula Vista will have with
TRP and obviously will require an amendment of the MOU.
But it's allowable. There's just like no specific timeline. So
tonight City staff is recommending adopting resolution 2026, 83, which
approves memorandum of understanding what Chelo Vista and Imperial Beach
establishing partnership for federal legislative advocacy related to the Tuhana
River pollution. And I just wanted to say that obviously
Mayor McConnell is here. And then, uh, members of his
staff as well in the event that there's any questions.
With that, it includes my presentation and available for questions.
Great. Thank you, CAO Martinez, Gortez Martinez. I appreciate the
detail that you provided there. I did want to announce
that we did receive, uh, correspondence written correspondence from Sandy
Bilhart on this item. And that was made available to
the Council members and the public in the back should
you wish to read it. Um, I do have two
public speaker cards. If I can give some professional courtesy,
I would like to, uh, ask Mr. Mayor John McCann
if he would be willing to speak first. And, uh,
we'll give you your three minutes and maybe some extra.
So welcome. We thank you for coming out this evening,
Mayor McCann. Thank you very much. I'm a mayor John
McCann from the City of Chula Vista. I very much
appreciate the opportunity to be here. And we have a
tradition of working together as a region. Uh, as the
administrator told, talked about, um, we actually went back to
Washington, DC on the TWNA sewer issue, uh, back then
when, uh, was, uh, Mayor McGurry. And I remember the
city manager was there. And I thought we were very
effective working together. Um, and I want to thank you
for your consideration on this memorandum understanding, um, to partner
on federal legislative C, uh, services that it relates to
the ongoing sewer crisis, uh, for decades. The residents of
South County, especially the residents of Imperial Beach have had
to live with beach closers, environmental damage and public health
impacts related to TIWN Assor crisis. Um, I'm going to
tell you that I grew up in Chilevista lifelong residence.
And I go back so long ago, uh, that my
best friend's father was actually an imperial beach police officer,
uh, before you guys went to the county. And every
once in a while we try to code to Imperial
Beach and even back then sometimes the beach would be
closed because of the sewer issues. Chula Vista recognizes that
this is a regional problem and demands a regional voice.
And that's where we can work together and make sure
that we're fighting together because we all care about what
is going on. The sewage crisis does not stop at
the City boundaries. This agreement builds a successful collaboration between
the cities. In 2018, Chula Vista joined Imperial Beach and
the port of San Diego in a federal lawsuit against
the International Boundary and Water Commission that resulted in a
comprehensive settlement. So we have been a good partner. Additionally,
the City of Chulavista has long tradition of leadership and
sustainability, environmental action. So this partnership before us by sharing
federal legislative agacy services are leveraging resources. And we can
better coordinate priorities engage federal decision makers and the pursuit.
The resources needed to accelerate the long - term solutions.
We're advocating for accountability and urgency our residents deserve clean
air, clean water, and safe beaches. Um, so I'm really
appreciate everybody's consideration on this, um, together we're stronger. And
we all agree that we all want safe water, safe
air. And I'm also available for any questions, um, as
well as I have staff here to answer any questions
if you do. Great. Thank you, Mayor McCann. We do
have one other speaker. And so, um, if we, if
we do have some questions during, uh, the council, uh,
consultation will certainly, uh, make you available to us. Um,
next speaker I have is, uh, uh, Lynn Fisher. So
Lynn, if you can come forward. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor.
Um, as I said earlier, I am a retired government
analyst. So I can tell you from experience item 15A
is bad for IB. It's a duplication of effort and
thus wasteful. These are things I'm trained to notice. First,
the Citizens by B hired you our own counsel to
provide advocate services. Just like other councils before, we send
you our counsel to Sacramento or DC when needed. The
citizens of IB do not need to help pay the
salary of someone already hired by Julevista that is doing
legislative work from TULIVISTA. This is a very poor use
of IB's financial resources. When we have other critical budget
issues facing our residents. I don't care where you say
the funds currently sit. If you say the room in
the City manager's budget, these funds belong in I. B.
not paying a two ofistic contract salary. Not to mention
IBNTivista are not the only affected cities in the South
Bay. In addition and very importantly, the county already pays
a very well - known legislative firm that is currently
working these sewage issue in Washington on behalf of the
entire Southpay. So why would we do this. And San
Diego. So this proposed expense is a duplicative and wasteful
MOU. Please do not vote this in. It is not
in the best interest of I. residence. Thank you. Thank
you for your comments. All right. Let's move on to
staff discussion. I'll first wrecking. We have a. Oh, I'm
sorry. We have an online speaker. I'm sorry. Please, please
proceed. Um, we do have truth available to speak. Um,
please begin. You have three minutes truth. Well, thank you
so much for that. Um, for the record, I timed
it and John spokes for less than three minutes. I
was not trained to notice that. I'm just experienced on
these things. I find this an interesting proposition on advocacy,
which is indeed a difficult word. Thorn run is definitely
a giant lobbying firm with over 200 clients. So, and
it also looks like they have federal connections, which is
really, really important. Uh, I'm actually really happy to see
this MOU because it's been bothered me for a very
long time that I. B. doesn't have a law being
firm like Cornado does. Uh, if you were going to
talk about duplication, well then you could have made the
coronado argument. That would have made a lot more sense.
I have shared my thought on this lassi duplication necessary
duplication, uh, with so many people, even recently telling someone
that if it wasn't for coronado making their legal investment,
there's so much that wouldness happen for I. B. regarding
sewage solutions. POM 100 percent of this opportunity that the
city of CLISTA is very graciously offering. It is a
wonderful contribution from Chula Vista to helping to finally stop
the sewage coming 100 percent for Mexico as Mr. Joan
Duncan has said that has been negatively impacting the entire
South Day, especially at this time when SanDeg is planning
another border crossing that will increase development thereby increasing the
traffic in sewage pollution coming from the main bid and
fitter Mexico, which is also the main offender. This is
a critical time. There is no more time where unity
is needed than right now. So I am grateful to
those that made this opportunity happen for the benefit of
the entire South Bay, not making this investment outside of
IB. I mean, there may not be an IV in
the future. And that is not anything to risk. This
is a time you need to take advantage of this
type of opportunity and other types of opportunities that come
up. Because a thousand bucks, that is nothing out of
the budget. Let's be real. That is a wise investment
for future. Thank you. And thank you for your comments.
We're going to move on to City Council discussion and
I'll recognize Councilmember NakaUada State first. Thank you, Mayor. I
just wanted to highlight some, uh, just my personal experience
in terms of lobbying for the city earlier this year
in Washington, D. C. and just really think, um, if
we didn't have the relationships that we had with the
port, uh, any of those meetings, all that great data,
those relationships we started building out, the report out that
you guys all heard were not going to happen because
we didn't have those lobbying relationships. And so for me,
when I, when I first heard this, I was like,
Oh no, like another lobbyist, another person outside of the
city. And I started advocating for it. Um, I was
really a fortunate to hear that part of the scope
of work again is that report out to the city
to see if it's actually really beneficial for us. And
my favorite saying of trust, but verify, I think is
really important. I would really hope that the port, um,
in regards to this also helps us in stepping up
and building up our lobbying activities. I think it's really
fruitful. Um, again, every time a meeting got canceled, like
there was a meeting at the concept that was established.
And they're like, Hey, that's not happening. I remember looking
with director helmer and I'm saying, okay, so who can
we meet with next? Because we didn't fly all the
way out to DC to not have meetings and not
have conversations. And those established relationships are really good. And
obviously for full in regards to getting us, I know
that we all hear on this DIS have, um, have
other jobs, other stuff we're got. We have going on.
It's hard to consistently advocate and being that squeakywhel. And
it would be beneficial in any capacity for us to
keep having the continuation of these conversations. If we're constantly
in front of them, if we're advocating for them, again,
a lot of my conversations, I think in DC, uh,
you know, everyone kind of gets lost in the numbers,
but was again, what was really important was like the
emotional stories, right? The stories about, um, our military, our
families, um, you know, military personnel not being able to
train here anymore, border patrol boots melting children who live
here, who have never gotten to experience this beach at
all. Those were the stories, in my opinion, that moved
people in those rooms. That was really my personal experience
in terms of lobbying in DC. And so I'm, I'm
really, you know, for this kind of concept. I know
in regards to the county federal lobbyist, I would love
to be invited to any county discussions, press releases or
anything. As I've asked, like, Hey, I would love to
be in support of this or whenever we have any
press conferences or anything. Would love to be invited as
well and be part of that conversation. Um, since appointment,
I haven't. So that would be something I would be
interested in as well. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you
for those comments and observations. Mayor ProTEM. Thanks, Mayor. No,
I think this really is a good thing for us.
You know, I've been to DC and it really is
all about the relationships that are had. It has nothing.
If everything in Washington was only based on need, this
problem would have fixed decades ago. Absolutely without a shout
out. There's no other thing in this country. This is
devastating as this. You know, I understand that we see
the travesties that happen when we have natural disasters. You
know, I saw some video from Hawaii and it's unbelievable
what has happened to that state. Um, and they throw
every resource they possibly can so that people can sustain
their lives and rebuild. You know, we've been fortunate they
just eroded away our quality of life over the last
three decades or and more. You know, it was slowly
killing us. You know, and people don't realize that. So
I think that having somebody who's there full - time
really does make a difference. I know that, um, Sandag
uses somebody in DC who's very good at what he
does. And it helps a lot to get grand funding
and stay relevant. So I appreciate the partnership with the
City Chulatis and for Mayor McCann taking the time to
come out this evening. Um, you know, again, this is
a conversation that started years ago. Uh, the next item,
even farther past that. And so, you know, we do
rely on things. I wish we had our own money.
But again, the voices that we joined up with are
just as big in our favor. Uh, cause it's a
genuine partnership and the care and concern is there. If
the chill of us are trying to fleece the city
of being prayer reach for a thousand dollars a month
just for their fund money, I would beg to differ
that's definitely not the case. This is something that's a
genuine partnership. And I'll be supporting this item. Great. Thank
you. Um, I just wanted to comment that, that I
think, uh, duplicity is one thing, but when you're leveraging
from, from multiple angles, you got multiple prong approach, um,
it's great that the county's doing something. We also work
with, we've worked with the port. We work with Coronado.
We've worked with Jule Vista before. So I don't think
this is an unusual request or arrangement. I think in
fact, it's probably the smartest arrangement because now we've got,
uh, folks coming at multiple angles, um, their hearing stories
from, uh, from partnerships, uh, of, of cities that maybe
aren't as, uh, as impacted as others. Um, but I
think it just shows that there's a, an aggregate, you
know, dissatisfaction and need for, for resolution of the problem.
Um, and I welcome the partnership with, uh, Chulavista again.
It's, it's historical. I mean, you can go back to
Mary Salas. And I mean, we're talking generations, um, with
the City of Imperial Beach. So this isn't something Mayor
McKay dreamed up in, you know, over the weekend. So,
um, I really think we're, we're moving in the right
direction. Uh, we need to continue to pursue, um, you
know, having a voice in Washington, D. C. It's great
that it's coming from multiple directions at the county at
City of Coronado, uh, and now, uh, with us in
this arrangement, the City of Imperial Beach will be back,
um, with, with a voice. So, uh, I, I very
much, uh, support this. Again, I appreciate Mayor McCann coming
out and, uh, spending time with this evening. Um, I
don't think there's any other questions of my council. And
so I'm going to look, uh, for a motion and
a second. I'll make a motion mayor. Fish for a
second. All right. Let's please vote.
Motion cared unanimously by those present CB Epson. Thank you
for that review. All right. We're going to move on
to our next and last item under reports. Oh, excuse
me. Presentations. And that's, uh, item 15B resolution 2026 081
approval of an agreement between the city of Chula Vista
and the City of Imperial Beach for the provision of
Bridge Shelter and Associated Services for the Homeless. Housing and
neighborhood services manager, uh, Mr. Rolf will make the presentation.
Evening, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. Um, yeah, I'm here
tonight to, oh, my presentation disappeared. It's back. Um, uh,
to make a presentation tonight at item 15b, as was
mentioned, Resolution 2026 081. And this is about an agreement
between the City of Chulavista and Imperial Beach that will
allow us to take unsheltered members of the public here
in Imperial Beach and place them into the shelter that's
run over in ChulaVista off Main Street. Um, to begin
with, let's go back a little bit and look at
some of the, um, the things that have happened up
to date. In May of 2023, I think actually most
of us in the room were at the opening of
this shelter when they did their ribbing cutting. The village
at Otay is 62 individual pallet shelter, like kind of
bungalow, small units. They have a separate cafeteria bathroom shower
and laundry facility. Each unit has its own separate heating
and air conditioning. They're lockable units. Uh, they provide on
site wraparound services that consist of things like health care,
mental health, counseling, drug and alcohol treatment programs. And the
big thing is assistance with the moving forward in their
life, securing employment and finding a permanent housing solution. The
program is designed for 18 years individuals of 18 years
of age and older. And currently over the last couple
of years, they've been averaging about 80 percent occupancy in
there. So there is a little bit of room for
some of our people to participate in this program. Recently
in the recent past, they've done some ADA improvements also
to the facility since I've last been there. Um, in
the city of Imperial Beach, uh, we've had a lot
of success. And I owe a ton of, uh, gratitude
for our successes to my outreach, uh, my outreach, uh,
worker, um, V .. Ramirez. And there she is with
her van. Um, just in the last couple of months
here, this is since the beginning of 2026, we've moved
three adults into permanent housing. Two of those are into
supportive housing, which is sometimes tricky to arrange. Two adults
have been reunited with family. One adult with two minor
children have recently gone into, uh, permanent shelter and they're
pending permanent housing, but we're working through that. One adult
was placed in BVSD, veterans village, San Diego. And we
have one that's in Safe parking now and also working
towards a permanent housing solution. So she's been fantastic. But
as you can see all the different avenues, we have
to pursue to get people housed. We have to go
into different places. It's not a one size fits all
for anybody. And that's where the pallet shelter opens up
to us additional opportunities to help us and get people
housed. Um, the bridge shelter itself has been quite successful.
Uh, since they've opened 210 individuals have gone through the
program in fiscal year of 25, 26, they saw 124
participants. And they've had basically a one third success rate
with getting those people moved into permanent housing, which is
fantastic. Um, permanent housing is, is the ultimate goal. And
it's a difficult goal. So the scope of participation between
our cities would be as follows. The term of this
agreement is for a period of two years. And the
numbers of people that we would be able to send
is going to be based on capacity. We're going to
only send the people we think that would be very
successful in their program that are a good fit because
we want to add to that success. We don't want
to see that third drop. We want to help them
up to the next level. Um, so that's going to
vary. It'll also vary on, uh, some. Financing. We'll have
to look at what it's going to cost. And we'll
get into numbers on the next slide. But that's also
going to be a limiting factor for us. We have
to make sure that this is something that we're not
entering into lightly. We're taking it, uh, with a lot
of consideration as far as what it will, how it
will affect our community. The process is really pretty simple.
Imperial Beach will put together a written request and send
it to their hot team. They're homeless outreach team. They
have three days in which to review our requests, they
can come back with an approval, a denial, or a
request for more information. They may also request that the
individual sit down with their hot team and do a
face - to - face. Um, transportation to and from
there would be provided by our city. We'll take people
over and take people back. Um, as was mentioned, I
believe by, uh, one of the council members just in
the prior item. This is not something that has just
come to light overnight. Uh, when the shelter opened three
years ago, we said, well, when can we start getting
people over here? And about a year after that, the
serious discussions have happened. So this has been a process
of a couple of years to get to where we
are today. Expenses. The cost for the shelter stay while
they're actively in the shelter participating in the wraparound services.
Then if they go from that position into one where
they're looking at permanent housing, we look at assistance for
those individuals in their housing goals. And that is all
done through a program called TBRA, which is tenant -
based rental assistance. They, tool of vista has staff who
are very well versed in it. They deal with it
all the time with their staff currently. So they would
go ahead and do that administrative portion for us. And
we would pay their hourly rates, uh, for that assistance.
And then the other portion that comes along with TBR
is the rental assistance on the back end. And it
can be for a period of up to 24 months.
And there's no average. It's really difficult to pin down
an average because it depends on where they get housed.
Some parts of the county are less expensive than others.
Um, and what you're looking at is a difference in
between. It kind of works a lot like a housing
choice voucher. The old section 8 program. Where they pay
a percentage, 30 percent roughly of their income that comes
in. And then the rest is handled by a TBR.
Um. That's really it for my presentation. The staff's recommending
tonight that you authorize the city manager to go ahead
and enter into the agreement with the City of Tulevista
so that they can provide to us, uh, these pallet
shelter and the associated services that come along with it.
Uh, I am here and available for questions as well.
I have the director of, um, homeless services, Stacey Kurtz
from the City of Troll Vista. And she can answer
questions as well. Great. Thank you very much for that,
um, presentation. We do, I do have to announce that
we did receive written conversation, or excuse me, correspondence from
Sandra Brilhart on this matter. Uh, and again, it was
made available to the council and available in the back
of the room for those wishing to read it. Um,
I do have one public speaker. And strangely enough, it's
Mayor John McCann. So John, if you want to come
forward and address us, we appreciate your time. And again,
this evening. Thank you very much. Um, again, I appreciate,
uh, Imperial Beach's collaboration. And I remember when, uh, when
McKay was there when we opened up the Bridge Shelter.
And it really homelessness is a regional issue. And we've
seen many times when we went ahead and created a
homeless encampment ban and suddenly everybody went up to different
cities. And we've seen it when San Diego City of
San Diego cracks down on homeless and people come down
to the South County. But we ultimately want to make
sure that we can get home us off the streets
and get them into a situation where they can get
back into society. Um, last night the city of Chula
Vista approved the agreement, um, you do agree with this
for uncheltered housing services. The action will strengthen relational collaboration
between the Stu Cities and help address the needs of
individuals experiencing homelessness. Through this agreement, the city of Chulavista
will work with Imperial Beach to support the delivery of
housing related services connected to individuals with available resources and
help create pathways towards stable and permanent housing. Our palate
shelter, we have a nonprofit that does a great job.
They provide rapound services. Um, it's not the traditional, uh,
tent where people go in. They sleep there. And then
they go out. We actually have them pretty much stay
in the shelter. If they want to go find a
job or work, uh, we have our workers be able
to help with them there. But this isn't a drop
in, dropout, um, place. And that's why I think we've
had such a high rate of ability to get over
30 percent of the people in permanent housing. The partnership
recognizes that homelessness, again, is original problem. And that requires
coordination and shared solution among neighboring communities. Uh, we look
forward to our collaboration and efforts with Imperial Beach. I
also want to just again, uh, thank Stacey Kurtz, our
director of housing and homeless services. She has done a
tremendous job. And I just really believe that, uh, with
her leadership, uh, we've been so successful. I also want
to thank Mayor McKay. Tony Rolf and Tyler Volts for
coming to the meeting last night to show our collaboration.
And again, we want to continue to have a great
relationship with Imperial Beach. Thank you. Thank you very much,
Mayor McCann. We appreciate, uh, the kind words and also
the willingness to continue, uh, this collaboration, uh, across multiple
different disciplines. And I think it is, uh, like you
mentioned very much a regional issue. Um, and it was
even discussed at your council meeting about movement subpopulations between
jurisdictions and, um, you know, it's, you can't just say,
well, the line's here and the line's there. Um, you
know, we, we need to look at this more holistically
and more as a region. And I think this is
part of that solution is, is working together collaboratively. And
sharing some of these resources, um, obviously we're, uh, we're,
we're not asking for, for free. We're more than willing
to cover the costs for those individuals that we vet,
that we think, as Mr. Rolf mentioned, are going to
be success stories. Cause, you know, we want to contribute
to that, um, that success of Chula Vista's Bridge Shelter
City. Um, so, um, again, thank you very much for
your comments this evening. I'm going to now, uh, go
to my own council. Oh, we do have a speaker.
I'm sorry. I keep forgetting this new SB707. It's just
not in there yet. Anyways, please initiate the online speaker.
Sure. Uh, Mr. Mayor, we have one, um, speaker and
it's truth. Truth, please begin. You have three minutes. Hi,
truth. Um, I want to throw a theory out there
because that's always the best part of, uh, any political
meeting. Was the MOU offer and the cabins offer a
bundled deal. As in you only can only choose both.
Like you can't choose one. Not that either bad for
IBI. I don't think so. But somebody's been through the
question out there. Can't let you get away with that.
Um, I want to know what is the current vacancy
rate of the cabin. Do you need more residents to
justify being open. There's another theory. I've been also legitimate
questions. Um, I, I, I have seen this a little
bit online of TILA VISTA resident seeming to be mixed
about this topic. Of IV getting in the mix. So
however, I didn't watch the meeting yesterday. Sorry. So I'm
sure there's opinions I'm unaware of. Uh, the hourly rate
of 133 dollars for a management analyst two and the
senior fiscal office is just crazy. I'd like to know
what's the average timeframe that they work. You just hire
them for one hour on average or is it 10
hours. Or does it depend on the case? And do
you have an average range. Um, I like to know
what is the more affordable areas that people can pick
that they're just going to move to. Cause I've heard
something to that effect. Like why, why don't they get
a pitch? Is this the goal housing. You're just trying
to get housed, but you're giving them a pick. I
said doesn't tell you that we have a good in
America. I don't know what does. And here's another question.
Can they take and Hero Beach. There's an option. Cause
sounds like being homeless would be okay to be. Like
you just kick wherever you want to go. And then
you say, Oh, 30 percent get rehoused. Okay. That technically
true. But that say that people can be on taxpayer
funded rental assistance for two years. Two years. I mean,
I'm sure some people got some tough cases, but that
is a long time. I don't know. That's, that's very
questionable in itself. But here's another important question. Is this
a low barrier facility. I legitimately do not know the
answer to that. And low barrier, we know means I
drug you. No barrier, right? No barrier to enter. You
could just come as you are and do whatever you
want, no regulations. At least sometimes they do put regulations
on right, but it actually follows because it enforced. That
matters for the people, not for imperial speech when you
drop your people off, which is by whoever, that's fine.
But I want a real solution. I don't want people
to just get rehoused. I want their lives to be
changed. I want job training. I want life changes. I
do like regional strategies. Absolutely. That's just no brainer. It
makes sense as long as it's not low barrier. And
also make sure you've never ever ever ever work with
accounting on homelessness strategy. Because you will find yourself in
a bad situation like the City of Lehmingrove and Saturn
itself. Other than that, and I seem like I'm in
support, I suppose. Thank you. Great. Thank you for those
comments. Well, now I'll move on to Council comments and
we'll move to my far left to Council Member Nakawa.
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I have had the great pleasure
of doing lots of great community outreach with, um, homelessness
in regards to in my day job with the county.
One of the things that I found really interesting about
this property, and I haven't had the great pleasure of
being there or was, wasn't the opening, being animal friendly.
I'm a dog owner. I couldn't imagine partying with my
pet. So I thought that was really cool. And just
the, the communal spaces regards to on that property. For
me, I, I think we, we had a scenario happen,
you know, unfortunately last year where the person that needed
resources didn't have the resources, um, available to them and
didn't get the help in the end. I think this
being another tool in the toolkit is a great idea.
We don't have to send anyone. And if we don't
send anyone, it's not necessarily costing the city anything, but
again, having that extra tool of like, do you want
those support services and whatnot? I think something that really
opened my eyes is participating in the point in time
count in some more rural areas across the county, um,
also in just denser areas like alcohone, not everyone wants
these services. There are barriers to a lot of the
services that are out there in regards to maybe some
kind of religious component or anything like that. And so
the ability to have again, just this tool is of
interest to me. I was also skeptical in terms of
data. I'm always a skeptic and a lot of things
I just usually try to say with a smile. Um,
for me, I am interested to see more of the
data in regards to the housing and just what it
might look like in terms of timeline, uh, for people.
But I thought this was a really interesting proposal. Just
again, this is something that we can now offer. Like
if you do need this, this, um, this leg up
or anything in regards to that I was, I was
appreciative that we could provide this, um, to our constituents.
I just saw another lovely Facebook post today that people
felt that there's more homelessness and an imperial beach. And
then there was a bunch of comments about homeless getting
dropped off here. But ignoring on that side, um, it's
just one of those more things like, yeah, if we
are seeming to experience seeing more is the situation tool
we could provide to them to help them out. So
I'm in support of this item. Thank you. Great. Thank
you for your comments. Councilmember Labor Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor.
Um, Tony, I have a question. So, um, prior to,
um, so yourself and your staff, you guys will be
involved with interviewing the perspective, um, unsheltered prior to deciding
if they're a good candidate for this location as opposed
to, say other locations that are available. Sure. Um, the
way our outreach is structured currently, we typically don't start
to recommend pathways until we've met with an individual probably
in a less than three times. The main reason is
there's a transient population. If we dive in and spend
an intensive 24 hours on somebody only to find out
they walked away, that was 24 hours wasted on somebody
that we could have spent somewhere else. So after we
engage with them several times when we start to see
what they're in need of some people aren't ready for
this. This is a program that's trying to get you
almost back mainstream. It's for people who are ready to
start working, ready to be on a schedule ready to
find housing. Um, we have individuals in town who their
first need is rehab. Um, we have good connections with
rehab facilities. So we would rather see them go to
a rehab, go through a rehab. And then when they
come out on the back end, if they haven't gone
to a sober living house and down housing, that path,
that would be an opportunity, something like that. So our
goal is always to try and fit the client to
the right path for them based on their circumstances. And
obviously they have input to that. We aren't forcing anybody
to do anything against their will. We're presenting opportunities and
hoping that they'll trust us in our judgments of the
programs we work with in what we recommend to them.
And, um, I remember when you first started and I
had more time and I would go with you on
Thursdays to do the outreach. You and your team do
a phenomenal job because you guys know all the unsheltered
all nine unsheltered and imperiled beach. Don't tell the mayor
from Chula Vista, but they don't want to go to
Chula Vista. They want to stay here and coastal utopia
because of the weather, the beach, you name it. But
I appreciate the great job you and your entire staff.
You guys perform like, like I had mentioned about this
Saturday being the horseshoes and you're, you already gave me
the insight on, you know, who I may be having
to deal with or whatever. But it's, I appreciate it.
Thank you very much. No, you're very welcome. Mayor Pracham.
Thanks, Mayor. Now great presentation. Again, I remember as a
young council member in the conversation for this started this
partnership. So it's been, you know, five, five years or
so. Um, I remember, you know, we talked about pallet
homes and we're like, where could we put them in
IBA? And it was deemed that it wasn't a feasible
idea, but, uh, again, with the saves, she'll Vista kind
of working on their budget's a little bit bigger than
ours. Uh, so it's always good to kind of piggyback.
Um, you know. Whenever we talk about homeless, everybody wants
to say, what does it cost. You know, I ask
myself that a lot because. Regionally in the state of
California is a whole, I feel like it's very ineffective
as a program. Multitude of reasons. There's so many different
aspects to it. Um, but you know, Ulicit eight people
that you've helped this year. What's the cost. Does it
make any difference? You know, I see there's an individual
has kids. What's the cost? Doesn't matter. To me because
we're helping people, you know, we're, we're, we're not a
business. We're a public agency. And we look out for
the betterment of our, our residents. We could always make
judgment calls. We could ask a lot of questions. But
ultimately comes down to these are people who are in
our community. They may have wandered and drifted and just
kind of pounds out their feet. They may have been
here second, third, fourth generation. It doesn't matter. They're still
residents. To finally have this opportunity to do this is
amazing to me. Um, is it sustainable for the next
five, 10 years? I don't know. We don't know. There's
a lot of unknowns at this point. But for the
foreseeable future, there's options for somebody that's going to have
a new option that they've never have had. It was
something a little bit easier for them to, you know,
I can only imagine what it must feel like sleeping
your first night in a place that you're completely safe
that you locked the door yourself. And it has a
clean bedding, you know, those types of things. I can't
even imagine what it must feel like for an individual.
Um, and again, to get to that point, they have
to go through a rigorous amount of interviews, conversations, um,
and what you mentioned was sometimes. So, you know, and
just, I just want to make sure that everybody knows
that this. The services that are provided are going to
be paid for from a fund that we have as
a community benefit fund. And I think that's an important
part. We're not taking stuff that otherwise, you know, is
earmarked for, for any other services, there are going to
be not had in our city. So it's, it's an
important thing that we look at saying, this will give
us an opportunity to help residents. Again, people can make
their judgments in life. We see some commonalities why people
are unsheltered. Um, but we're trying to help them. No
more noble thing that we could do to help residents
of Imperial Beach in ways that they need the help.
And I know that you and your team do it
without judgment. And I hope that our community will look
at this as an opportunity to help without judgment. And
again, if we can add to that list of eight
people that were successes and not look at the other
people who don't make it through the param because it
doesn't matter. It matters to those people who make it.
Because they're a father, a son, a daughter, a mother.
There's somebody to somebody and their residents of Imperial Beach.
So I really appreciate this coming forward. Thank you to
the city of Chula Vista, uh, for, for continuing the
conversation for many years and to have it come to
fruition, um, is pretty cool. Thank you for those comments
and observations. And I think, uh, I think we have
a pretty strong consensus on this item. I don't have
a whole lot of other comments. Um, except to say
that, um, you know, Tony and your team do an
amazing job. You know, I, even when I hear people
concern about costs, I think, you know, we still control
that. I mean, to the, to the, to some degree,
we're the ones deciding who we're vetting, who are not
necessarily who's ready to go, but you know, so that
we can contribute to that success. And so, you know,
it's not just an open door. Anybody can go and,
you know, they last three days or four days. And
then they, you know, they're back out on the street
and they come back for another round. That isn't how
this is going to work. There's going to be, you
know, there's guardrails. And Tony and his team are those
guardrails. So I'm very confident that this program is just
going to be another tool in our toolbox. And, um,
something else we can offer those individuals in our community
that need the help. So. With that, I'm going to
request a motion and a second. Fish are so moved.
I'll second mayor. Thank you. Let's please vote. We have
a motion by Fisher with the second by Nakawasay to
adopt resolution number 2026 - 081. And motion carries unanimously
by those present. Thank you very much. And I appreciate
again. I want to thank you, Mayor McCann, for coming
out this evening and spending some of your valuable time
and your staff. Um, with us. So thanks again for
your council's approval of that item. Um, so we can
all move forward. All right. Um, real quickly here. Uh,
item 16 redevelopment agency successor, uh, agency reports. We have
non, uh, we didn't pull any items from the consent
calendar this evening. Um, do I have any future item,
excuse me, future agenda item requests from Council members.