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Good evening. I will now call

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to order the City County

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Council meeting for Monday,

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JULY 6, 2026. Begin meeting

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with a prayer and pledge of

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allegiance led by my father

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reverently Lewis Jr that. The

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brawl. Parade. Grace of GOD.

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Our Heavenly father, thank you

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for a lot of us assembled in

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this room. Thank you for those

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voices that would be heard.

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We've got a choice. The best

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upon each one of spirit living

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golf ball. Fresh upon meeting.

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Move was a sick us that we

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might be the the children you

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calling for the last days. And

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we should remember to give you

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all glory on the increase in

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Jesus name, a a United States

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of America and to love it for

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it stands. One nation under

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GOD, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all. Thanks

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that I was a little nervous

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that's Baptiste. And if you

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know, got to stay like that

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for really long The next item

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on our agenda, roll call,

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please in the so that the

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green button to indicate your

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attendance. There are 24

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members present. CHAIRMAN

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Boots asked to be excused this

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evening. The next item on our

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agenda is introduction of

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guests and visitors. Councilor

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Gibson. MADAM Chair. I wish

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welcome our former COUNCILMAN

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Scott Keller. Additionally

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Introduction Council Brown.

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Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, I

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would like to recognize all of

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that. Constituents have come

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here with their signs

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proposing a data center

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moratorium. CHAIRWOMAN

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McCormick. Hi, thank you. I

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don't know if I missed anybody

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else peer into the crowd, but

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I see our trusty from packed

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township, Annette Johnson.

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CHAIRMAN Robinson, MADAM

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PRESIDENT, as anyone

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acknowledge our former vice

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PRESIDENT's that comes with

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it. Vice PRESIDENT Adams.

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Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT, a

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pleasure. Now proceed to

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official communications. MADAM

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Clerk. Thank you. MADAM

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PRESIDENT, ladies and

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gentlemen, you are hereby

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notified the regular meetings

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of the city County Council

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Police Fire and Solid waste

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Collection. Special service

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district councils will be held

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in the city county building in

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the public Assembly room on

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Monday, 7/6/2026, it's 7

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o'clock pm the purposes of

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such meetings being to conduct

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any and all business that MAY

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come properly before regular

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meetings of the council's

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sincerely, Louis, PRESIDENT

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City County Council. Ladies

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and gentlemen percent pursuant

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to the laws of the state of

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Indiana. I caused be published

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in the court commercial record

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and in the Indianapolis star

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on Friday, JUNE, 12th 2026 a

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copy of Notice of Public

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hearing proposal numbers. One.

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24 one. 63 1.88 in 2, 0, 6,

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2026 said hearing to be held

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on Monday, 7/6/2026 and 7

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o'clock pm. And the Public

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Assembly room of the city

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County building on Friday,

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6/19/2026. Copy of Notice of

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Public hearing proposal.

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Number 2, 0, 8, 2026 said here

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hearing to be held on Monday,

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JULY 13th 2026 at 05:30pm, and

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the Public Assembly room of

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the city County building.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I have

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approved with my signature and

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delivered this data. The clerk

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of the City County Council,

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Yolanda Winfield, the

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following ordinances, fiscal

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ordinance numbers 5 through

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ordinance numbers. 4 through

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resolution. Number 13, 2026

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Joseph h Hawks. It Mayor MADAM

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PRESIDENT. This concludes the

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official communications. Thank

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you, MADAM Counselors for your

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convenience. They are

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sugar-free and that free

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cookies in the back. We're

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going to be here just a tad

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bit longer than normal. So

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again, feel free to jump up

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and grab keys as shoes. So see

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fit the next I to moderate it

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on our agenda is the adoption

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of the agenda happen. Set.

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Proceed to approve of journals

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for JUNE. First 2026. To have

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consent. But proceeded

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presentations at petitions for

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miles special resolutions and

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council resolutions proposal.

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Number 2, 2, 3 introduced by

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Take the place.

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The Center for men. Good

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evening. Tonight, we recognize

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one of Indianapolis is most

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accomplished native daughters.

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Janet Fleenor born in 18 92.

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She became one of the founding

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writers of The New Yorker and

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spent more than 50 years as it

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celebrated. Paris

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correspondent earning

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international acclaim and

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France's prestigious Legion of

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honor. Counts or I don't know

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French side. Thanks to the

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district's theater's

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production on. They call me

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Janet Indianapolis has the

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opportunity to rediscover her

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extraordinary legacy. It is my

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honor to present this

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resolution in recognition of

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Janet Flanders. Remarkable

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life and contributions. A

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special resolution celebrating

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the life legacy in

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Indianapolis roots of Janet

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planner internationally

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acclaimed journalist, author

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and cultural correspondent,

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whereas Janet Flare was born

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in Indianapolis, Indiana in

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18, 92 and began her writing

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career in her home town before

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embarking on a path that would

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make her one of the most

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influential journalist of the

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20th century and where us.

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Whereas writing under the pen

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name Jean, a flatter, became

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one of the founding voices of

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The New Yorker magazine and

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served as its Paris

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correspondents more than 50

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years helping generations of

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Americans better understand

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the culture, politics

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literature and artistic life

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of your and whereas celebrated

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letter from Paris Collins

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planner conduct chronicled

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major historical events,

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artistic movements and

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cultural figures of the 20th

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century, establishing herself

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as one of America's most

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respected leader leader in us

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and if our past to file note,

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8 Butler talking in a district

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7 resident As in recognition

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of her extraordinary

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contributions to journalism

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and French culture, life

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Fleenor was awarded the title

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of so beware of the Legion day

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on wonderful I don't speak

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French either. One of France's

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France's highest civilian

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honors and whereas Fleenor

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also demonstrated personal

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courage by living openly with

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in Paris's Expo artistic and

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lgbtq+ communities during the

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period with such freedom was

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was often unavailable to many

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Americans leaving a lasting

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legacy of often to city

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inclusion and cultural

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progress and where is Jennifer

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enters Indianapolis? Remove

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routes remain an important

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part of her story and her

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achievements stand as a

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reminder of the profound

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impact that individuals for

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this city here have had on a

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national, an international

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coach or cultural and public

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life. And whereas the Flanders

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families contributions to

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Indianapolis extend beyond

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journalism through the

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establishment of flat or house

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by her father DR. Frank w

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legacy of community service,

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education and opportunity for

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generations of Indianapolis

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residents. And whereas the

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District Theatre's production

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of they call me Janet offers

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Indianapolis and opportunity

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to rediscover and celebrate

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one of its most accomplished

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native daughters in her

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enduring contributions to

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journalism, literature and

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international understanding

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now, therefore, be it resolved

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by the City County Council of

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the City of Indianapolis and

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Marion County, Indiana,

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Section one, the Indianapolis

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City Council proudly

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recognizes and celebrates the

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life achievements and enduring

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legacy of Janet Flatter whose

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work elevated the standards of

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journalism and in rich

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cultural understanding

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throughout the world. Section

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2, the council Cummins, the

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District theater in all those

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involved in the production of

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the college in it preserving

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and sharing the story of this

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remarkable Indianapolis native

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section 3. The council

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encourages residents of

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Indianapolis to learn more

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about Janet Flanders

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contributions to journalism,

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literature, culture and

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international understanding

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and take pride in her enduring

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connection to the city of

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Indianapolis. Section 4, a

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copy of this resolution shall

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be presented. 2

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representatives of the

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District Theater in

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recognition of their efforts

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to celebrate and preserve the

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legacy, Janet, I so move, I

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think been properly moved.

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And second, all those in favor

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signify by saying Aye. Those

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opposed same sign the motion

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carries that the speaker.

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Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, at

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this time, I'd like to invite

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2 former members of the

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council to share a few remarks

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representing both side of the

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aisle. Please welcome former

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council vice PRESIDENT And

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District Theater board member

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Zach Adamson and former

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Republican counter Scott

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Keller as they join us in

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celebrating the remarkable

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legacy of one of Indianapolis

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is most distinguished native

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daughters, Jennifer and her.

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Thank you. Evans and thank you

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to my former colleagues here

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in the council. For

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recognizing the extraordinary

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legacy. Jane Atlanta, on

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behalf of myself, former

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counsel Scott Keller, the

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District Theater. We are

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honored that Indianapolis is

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taking this opportunity to

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celebrate one of its most

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remarkable native daughters,

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the District Theater believes

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that these that great theater

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does more than just entertain.

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It shines a light on voices

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that history has too often

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overlooked or forgotten. 2 new

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works like they call me Jean,

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a and through our incubators

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for African-American and

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Latino Arts communities

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designed specifically for and

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buy those members of the

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community. We strive to tell

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stories that reflect the full

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richness of our city. So thank

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you for helping to ensure that

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Jeff Linder story and so many

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others continue to be sold.

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And with that, I will turn it

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over to Scott Keller. If you

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wish for information, you can

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look at chance Planner dot

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com. Thank you for this honor.

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I'll leave you an observation.

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My ancestor, Frank planner

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hired Booker t Washington to

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come around flat or house and

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manage. Well, he could not

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stay downtown hotel. So we

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stayed with the family of 40

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61 North Illinois. What genell

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planners favorite perch was on

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his lap. Thank you. Thank you.

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And I've got a soccer game.

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Yeah. So it is. The the next

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item on our agenda proposal.

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Number one, 61 refer to admin

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and Finance Committee CHAIRMAN

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Miscarry. Thank you. Madam

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President, the proposal one 61

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points Mariee Allen to equal

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out the Equal Opportunity

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Advisory board out of the

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community and there. I so

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move. And most properly moved

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and seconded. Other comments

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from counselors. Seeing no

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proceed to the board votes.

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This proposal, number 3.75,

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refer to public safety and

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criminal Justice Committee.

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Assistant Chair Alan. Thank

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you, MADAM PRESIDENT proposal.

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Number 3.75, appoints and

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ensure into the juvenile

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Detention Center advisory

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board to pass Bo 11 to 0. So

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so the motion improperly

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moved. And second, other

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comments will counselors?

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Santa proceed to the board for

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a vote? The proposal carries

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24 to 0 the next item on our

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agenda proposal. Number one,

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87 refer to public safety and

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criminal Justice Committee.

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Assistant Chair Alan, thank

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you. MADAM PRESIDENT proposed

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a number one, 87 2026 appoint

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Alexis Hatcher to the juvenile

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Detention Center advisory

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board. Do pass vote 11 to 0. I

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so the most of properly moved.

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And second, other comments

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counselors. Seeing proceed to

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the board for a vote. The

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proposal carries 24 to 0. The

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next item on our agenda is

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introductions of proposals.

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MADAM Clerk. Thank you. MADAM

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PRESIDENT. Proposal, number 2,

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that 2, 0, 8, 2026 introduced

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by Council near son and refer

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to the administration and

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Finance Committee elects to

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allow certain employees to

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participate in the public

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Employees Retirement Fund as

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administered by the Indiana

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Public Retirement System.

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Proposal. Number 2, 0, 9, 2026

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introduced by Council Ali

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Brown and referred to

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community Affairs reappoint

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Amy Carol, to the public Art

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for Neighborhood selection

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committee. The following

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proposals or refer to the

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Metropolitan Economic

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Development Committee

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proposal. Number 2.37, 2026

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introduced by counselor Jesse

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Brown request that the

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Indianapolis Department of

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Metropolitan Development, it

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eliminates parking minimums

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within the city of

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Indianapolis and Marion

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County. Proposal. Number to 3,

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8, 2026 introduced by

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COUNCILMAN Lewis amends

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chapter 7, 4, 0, through 202,

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dash, 202, 7, 4, 2 dash, 109,

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and table 7, 4, 3, dash, 208,

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dash, one of the consolidated

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Zoning and Subdivision Control

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ordinance of the Indianapolis

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Marion County, Indiana,

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concerning Data Center

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development. Proposals. The

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following proposals or refer

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to the public safety and

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Criminal Justice Committee

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proposal. Number 2.11, 2026

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introduced Council Robinson

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Point Elizabeth White to the

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domestic violent violence

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fatality review team.

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Proposal. Number 2.36, 2026

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introduced by Council Robinson

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appoints Raymond pow to the

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Marion County Community.

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Corrections Advisory Board.

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The following proposals were

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referred to the Public Works

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Committee proposal number 2 to

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12, 2026 introduced council

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boots authorizes high

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intensity activated cross will

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walk signal for nickel plate

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trail crossing on 56th Street

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Kessler Boulevard East right

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71st Street and 75th Street

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District 3 proposal. Number

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2.13, 2026 introduced by Sully

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authorizes intersection

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controls adjacent to the iu

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Health Medical Center on 13th

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Street Capitol Avenue and

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Senate Avenue and on 14th

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Street as Senate Avenue

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District. Well. Proposal,

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number 2.14, 2026 introduced

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by Council McCormick

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authorizes High in Tucson.

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High intensity activated

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crosswalk signal for Eagle

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Creek Trail crossing at

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Lyndhurst Drive Bridge.

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District 16. Proposal. Number

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2.15, 2026 introduce my

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counselor. Allen authorizes

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high intensity activated

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crosswalk signal at the Grassy

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Creek connector. At 3500 North

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German Church Road District.

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15. Proposal. Number 2.16,

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2026 introduced by Council

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Gibson authorizes a speed

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limit reduction to 25 miles

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per hour in the area. Bounded

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by Sherman Drive Emerson

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Avenue, 30th Street and 34th

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Street District 8 proposal.

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Number 2, 17, 2026 introduced

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by COUNCILMAN Scary authorizes

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the speed limit reduction to

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25 miles per hour. An area

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bounded by Keystone Avenue,

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Hobart Road 7 Avenue and

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Raymond Street District. 19.

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Proposal number 2.18, 2026

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introduced by counselor Allen

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authorizes a speed limit

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reduction to 25 miles per hour

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in the Autumn Creek in Autumn

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Creek, East subdivisions,

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district 15. Proposal. Number

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2.19, 2026 introduced Council

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Bain authorizes intersection

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controls at the intersection

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of Bonnie Drive. And Eddie

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Wayne District. 21. Proposal

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number 2, 22,026 introduced by

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council ku authorizes

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intersection controls at the

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intersection of car way Court

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Thompson and Thompson Road

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District. 23. Proposal number

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2.21 2026 introduced by

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Council Jesse Brown.

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Authorizes residential permit

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parking at 5 to 4 in 5 to 6

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East 9th Street District. 13.

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MADAM PRESIDENT, this

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concludes introductions. Thank

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you, MADAM. For the next item

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on our agenda, special orders,

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priority business proposals.

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Number 2.28, 4. 32 34 2026 are

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knee that are certified to the

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council for approval by the

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Metropolitan Development

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Commission. If no District

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Council wishes to call down

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any of these proposals for

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public hearing, they will pass

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into law. Sand and proposals

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will pass into law. Proposals.

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Number 2, 35 2026 is a

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rezoning that would certify to

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the Council for Denial by the

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Metropolitan Development

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Commission. If no District

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Council wishes to call down

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this proposal after a public

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hearing, the decision of the

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commission will stand has

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denied. Seeing no further

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motion regarding proposal.

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Number 2, 35 2026. The

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decision of the commission

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will stand has denied. Now

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proceed to special orders.

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Public hearing before we open

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a Florida public comments, I

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would like to call on general

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counsel peers to review the

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ground rules for public

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testimony as adopted by this

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body. His peers. Thank MADAM

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PRESIDENT. And we move to the

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public comment portion of

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debate for these proposals. We

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would like to remind council

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members and the public of a

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few ground rules in order for

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everyone to have a fair chance

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to speak and be heard. It is

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important that we each observe

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the following rules first,

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each speaker will be limited

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to 2 minutes. Second, any

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public comment must reasonably

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relate to the agenda item

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under consideration. 3rd

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speakers to stray from the

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item under consideration or

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become unduly repetitious MAY

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be asked to move on to their

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next point, conclude their

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comments. Finally attendees

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who caused this reaction that

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prevent the council from

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proceeding through the agenda

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and a reasonably efficient

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manner will be Please remember

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that some types of threatening

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speech or excitement. The

580
00:20:27,970 --> 00:20:30,970
violence are not protected by

581
00:20:31,306 --> 00:20:32,410
the First Amendment. And all

582
00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:32,775
we will deal with those issues

583
00:20:32,775 --> 00:20:34,376
if they come up. But we do not

584
00:20:34,376 --> 00:20:36,776
think they will. MADAM

585
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,181
PRESIDENT. Thank you to have

586
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consented that the rules for

587
00:20:42,351 --> 00:20:43,685
public testimony. Thank you.

588
00:20:43,685 --> 00:20:45,554
Well, Brooke, proceeded

589
00:20:45,554 --> 00:20:46,221
proposal. Number one, 24

590
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referred a Metropolitan and

591
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Economic Development

592
00:20:51,527 --> 00:20:52,194
Committee. CHAIRMAN, mostly.

593
00:20:52,194 --> 00:20:54,594
Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT

594
00:20:55,531 --> 00:20:56,131
pose a number one to 4, 2026.

595
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Approves an additional

596
00:20:58,568 --> 00:20:59,668
appropriation of $42,000 and

597
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the 2026 budget of the Marion

598
00:21:01,737 --> 00:21:04,137
County Recorders Office County

599
00:21:05,474 --> 00:21:06,208
Recorders, Perpetual Fund to

600
00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:08,110
be used for property fraud and

601
00:21:08,110 --> 00:21:09,678
veteran advertisement. The

602
00:21:09,678 --> 00:21:12,780
proposal passed out of

603
00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:15,682
committee by a vote of 10 to 0

604
00:21:15,685 --> 00:21:16,351
MADAM PRESIDENT, I some of the

605
00:21:16,351 --> 00:21:17,520
motion improperly moved and

606
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,520
second are the comments from

607
00:21:21,910 --> 00:21:21,757
counselors. Is there anyone in

608
00:21:21,757 --> 00:21:22,491
the audience that wishes to

609
00:21:22,491 --> 00:21:23,626
speak to propose a number one?

610
00:21:23,626 --> 00:21:26,260
24, please state your name

611
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,937
doing so. Larry Van, please, I

612
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just like to congratulate my

613
00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:36,706
friend Faith Kimbro for her

614
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services she's doing and the

615
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recorders office. From

616
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stamping out the fraud that's

617
00:21:42,579 --> 00:21:46,179
going on here in Marin County.

618
00:21:46,683 --> 00:21:47,851
The actual title for a that's

619
00:21:47,851 --> 00:21:49,619
going on. Just to know that

620
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she's a beloved politician

621
00:21:51,521 --> 00:21:54,191
right now. And I think she's

622
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qualified for other offices. I

623
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just like to thank her for a

624
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program that she's initiate

625
00:21:59,950 --> 00:22:00,290
it. Office where she's dealing

626
00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:03,629
with the a total fraud that's

627
00:22:04,667 --> 00:22:06,870
going on because the recorder

628
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:07,604
is really a job that's really

629
00:22:07,604 --> 00:22:08,304
consequential for anybody that

630
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owns property here in Marion

631
00:22:10,774 --> 00:22:13,774
County. So faith camera roof,

632
00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:15,450
she's a politician's just like

633
00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:16,646
mile average who have really

634
00:22:16,646 --> 00:22:18,948
done her job and stuff to the

635
00:22:18,948 --> 00:22:22,548
guidelines of for a job. So

636
00:22:22,752 --> 00:22:25,152
thanks. Let just fun.

637
00:22:26,322 --> 00:22:26,990
Additional comments. You

638
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:30,590
proceed to the board for a

639
00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,434
vote. Later. Evins. The

640
00:22:41,104 --> 00:22:42,205
proposal carries 24 to 0 the

641
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next item on our agenda

642
00:22:43,390 --> 00:22:45,390
proposal. Number one, 63

643
00:22:45,442 --> 00:22:47,842
referred admin of finance

644
00:22:49,379 --> 00:22:50,480
CHAIRMAN, Scary. Thank you.

645
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,415
MADAM PRESIDENT, Bulls won. 63

646
00:22:51,415 --> 00:22:53,116
approves an additional

647
00:22:53,116 --> 00:22:55,116
appropriation. Totally

648
00:22:57,688 --> 00:22:59,688
19 million, $488,400 to 2026

649
00:23:01,991 --> 00:23:03,127
budgets various city. County

650
00:23:03,127 --> 00:23:05,960
departments and agencies in

651
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:05,830
various city county funds from

652
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:07,830
additional supplemental income

653
00:23:08,365 --> 00:23:11,365
in Tax revenue. As the

654
00:23:12,203 --> 00:23:12,937
committee, 11 0. I so move.

655
00:23:12,937 --> 00:23:13,637
The motion been properly moved

656
00:23:13,637 --> 00:23:16,370
and seconded. Other comments

657
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:17,641
from counselors. Is there

658
00:23:17,641 --> 00:23:18,342
anyone the audience that

659
00:23:18,342 --> 00:23:21,342
wishes to speak to proposal?

660
00:23:26,917 --> 00:23:27,651
Number one, 63. You know, I

661
00:23:27,651 --> 00:23:30,651
would anything about this with

662
00:23:30,855 --> 00:23:31,889
the loose description on where

663
00:23:31,889 --> 00:23:33,758
these funds are actually going

664
00:23:33,758 --> 00:23:35,593
to be gone. You know, their

665
00:23:35,593 --> 00:23:36,293
prorated for certain things,

666
00:23:36,293 --> 00:23:39,893
but they don't always end up

667
00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:41,650
at the destination. So it's

668
00:23:41,650 --> 00:23:43,200
just questionable when we have

669
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,600
people that are appropriating

670
00:23:47,304 --> 00:23:49,704
funds just to lose.

671
00:23:49,974 --> 00:23:50,608
Description of where the funds

672
00:23:50,608 --> 00:23:51,242
are actually gone and the

673
00:23:51,242 --> 00:23:53,944
shape that the city is in

674
00:23:53,944 --> 00:23:56,947
right now. I think it's a bad

675
00:23:56,947 --> 00:23:58,649
policy to have a mean. And

676
00:23:58,649 --> 00:24:01,649
that's mostly because we don't

677
00:24:02,653 --> 00:24:04,653
have commissioners over 3

678
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:07,458
largest budget item which dpw,

679
00:24:07,458 --> 00:24:08,692
this public safety and also

680
00:24:08,692 --> 00:24:11,429
forgot what else it is. But in

681
00:24:11,429 --> 00:24:14,429
any case. It's a loose

682
00:24:14,965 --> 00:24:16,965
description. Additional

683
00:24:18,436 --> 00:24:19,570
comments from the audience.

684
00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:23,170
Siena proceed to the board for

685
00:24:23,174 --> 00:24:25,142
our votes. I apologize. MADAM.

686
00:24:25,142 --> 00:24:25,876
PRESIDENT Council members, my

687
00:24:25,876 --> 00:24:27,912
name is Tyler Mitchell. I live

688
00:24:27,912 --> 00:24:31,512
on the South side and happy

689
00:24:32,918 --> 00:24:33,618
birthday to the United States.

690
00:24:33,618 --> 00:24:36,388
I went to proposal one 63, so

691
00:24:36,388 --> 00:24:38,222
my neighbors don't have to.

692
00:24:38,222 --> 00:24:38,890
Some of the funding in the

693
00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:39,524
proposal goes to roads and

694
00:24:39,524 --> 00:24:41,524
infrastructure, which is

695
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,562
great. The news more go to

696
00:24:43,562 --> 00:24:45,300
programs with broad

697
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,398
descriptions like quality of

698
00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:49,398
life, housing initiatives,

699
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,436
unification, Youth engagement

700
00:24:51,436 --> 00:24:52,437
and other projects that

701
00:24:52,437 --> 00:24:53,138
deserve far public scrutiny

702
00:24:53,138 --> 00:24:56,410
before taxpayers are asked to

703
00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:58,510
fund them. Take the homeowner

704
00:24:58,510 --> 00:25:01,446
repair program is one example.

705
00:25:01,446 --> 00:25:02,800
It is already funded with 3.6

706
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,480
million dollars in cdbg,

707
00:25:06,518 --> 00:25:08,387
federal funding. Proposal. One

708
00:25:08,387 --> 00:25:10,387
63, would add another $500,000

709
00:25:11,289 --> 00:25:12,230
in local taxpayer dollars.

710
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:15,230
Helping your neighbors over to

711
00:25:15,627 --> 00:25:16,561
you. Compelling your neighbors

712
00:25:16,561 --> 00:25:20,980
to pay to help others through

713
00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:20,766
taxation is not. Not every

714
00:25:20,766 --> 00:25:23,166
need requires a government

715
00:25:24,669 --> 00:25:25,237
solution. Indianapolis as one

716
00:25:25,237 --> 00:25:27,637
of the largest church

717
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,807
communities in the Midwest.

718
00:25:28,807 --> 00:25:29,508
Church is a voluntary

719
00:25:29,508 --> 00:25:31,309
association groups have long

720
00:25:31,309 --> 00:25:32,100
to help people in need. And I

721
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:32,711
don't understand why we're

722
00:25:32,711 --> 00:25:35,711
forgetting the ability to do

723
00:25:37,916 --> 00:25:40,719
so. If dpw numbers are

724
00:25:40,719 --> 00:25:41,386
correct. That's a $500,000.

725
00:25:41,386 --> 00:25:43,786
Could proximity 7 lanes of

726
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,660
roadway? That's enough to

727
00:25:47,660 --> 00:25:48,293
repave north down even Emerson

728
00:25:48,293 --> 00:25:48,928
Avenue from Southeastern

729
00:25:48,928 --> 00:25:51,928
Avenue all the way to 46

730
00:25:52,697 --> 00:25:53,399
street. I mentioning roads

731
00:25:53,399 --> 00:25:54,233
because certainly you will

732
00:25:54,233 --> 00:25:57,833
vote to increase my will tax

733
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,806
by 400%. If we're truly facing

734
00:25:59,806 --> 00:26:01,540
a road funding crisis than

735
00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:02,174
every available dollar should

736
00:26:02,174 --> 00:26:04,574
be directed there before

737
00:26:04,676 --> 00:26:05,377
expanding spending elsewhere.

738
00:26:05,377 --> 00:26:06,946
I recognize that the state's

739
00:26:06,946 --> 00:26:09,946
road funding formula needs to

740
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:10,883
work better for us. And I did

741
00:26:10,883 --> 00:26:14,483
not come here to dispute that,

742
00:26:14,753 --> 00:26:15,888
by the way. But the way the

743
00:26:15,888 --> 00:26:17,155
city continues to spend

744
00:26:17,155 --> 00:26:17,824
taxpayer dollars is not going

745
00:26:17,824 --> 00:26:18,558
to strengthen our case. We

746
00:26:18,558 --> 00:26:21,127
asked the state to do more for

747
00:26:21,127 --> 00:26:24,127
us. Taxpayers work hard for

748
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:24,931
every dollar they earn. They

749
00:26:24,931 --> 00:26:25,598
expect the city government to

750
00:26:25,598 --> 00:26:27,998
provide just the essential

751
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:32,380
services and a quick at this.

752
00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:34,107
The city council keeps

753
00:26:34,107 --> 00:26:35,241
expanding government into

754
00:26:35,241 --> 00:26:35,942
areas beyond its core

755
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:37,276
responsibilities when working

756
00:26:37,276 --> 00:26:38,845
families have to tighten their

757
00:26:38,845 --> 00:26:39,579
budget, they expect the same

758
00:26:39,579 --> 00:26:40,513
thing to come from the council

759
00:26:40,513 --> 00:26:43,149
and prioritize you. Thank you.

760
00:26:43,149 --> 00:26:45,549
Thank you, ma'am. Additional

761
00:26:49,889 --> 00:26:50,556
comments from the audience. A

762
00:26:50,556 --> 00:26:52,358
PRESIDENT, the looking this

763
00:26:52,358 --> 00:26:55,929
way. Yes, sir, here at few

764
00:26:55,929 --> 00:26:58,131
comments yet place. So, you

765
00:26:58,131 --> 00:26:58,931
know, I I got a couple

766
00:26:58,931 --> 00:26:59,599
thoughts I mean, what the

767
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,599
gentleman did make a pretty

768
00:27:03,636 --> 00:27:04,404
good point about the

769
00:27:04,404 --> 00:27:05,138
correlation between the tax

770
00:27:05,138 --> 00:27:05,805
proposal that we have coming

771
00:27:05,805 --> 00:27:07,573
up. And I think I just want

772
00:27:07,573 --> 00:27:11,177
shed light on that. One of the

773
00:27:11,177 --> 00:27:11,911
things that I and you know is

774
00:27:11,911 --> 00:27:12,645
going through this just been a

775
00:27:12,645 --> 00:27:15,615
lot more time in spring fiscal

776
00:27:15,615 --> 00:27:16,315
added this year. I did send

777
00:27:16,315 --> 00:27:18,251
some things over through the

778
00:27:18,251 --> 00:27:19,519
office, but I just want at

779
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:20,387
least verbally acknowledge

780
00:27:20,387 --> 00:27:21,587
some of the things that I've

781
00:27:21,587 --> 00:27:22,221
heard. Constituents asked me

782
00:27:22,221 --> 00:27:22,889
for that I think are very

783
00:27:22,889 --> 00:27:25,726
prudent or things that I've

784
00:27:25,726 --> 00:27:26,392
seen that need even have a

785
00:27:26,392 --> 00:27:28,729
tension in the city that I

786
00:27:28,729 --> 00:27:30,630
don't. The city has brought us

787
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:31,798
this year. There is an issue

788
00:27:31,798 --> 00:27:32,366
that we have with duplicative

789
00:27:32,366 --> 00:27:33,800
data storage or even

790
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,200
triplicate data storage across

791
00:27:36,336 --> 00:27:38,710
the city enterprise in which

792
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:38,704
we are overpaying for data

793
00:27:38,704 --> 00:27:40,340
storage and a lot of our

794
00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:42,476
public safety's and it's

795
00:27:42,476 --> 00:27:44,210
causing both redundancies as

796
00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:44,778
well as efficiency issues when

797
00:27:44,778 --> 00:27:47,178
trying to share that

798
00:27:48,949 --> 00:27:49,683
information between agencies I

799
00:27:49,683 --> 00:27:50,485
say has done it does have

800
00:27:50,485 --> 00:27:52,190
information to run a pilot on

801
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:53,755
this and have looked into it.

802
00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:54,321
So we wouldn't be starting

803
00:27:54,321 --> 00:27:55,220
from scratch. So just

804
00:27:55,220 --> 00:27:56,556
something for this body to be

805
00:27:56,556 --> 00:27:57,291
aware of when, you know, I

806
00:27:57,291 --> 00:27:58,992
know there are some additional

807
00:27:58,992 --> 00:28:00,928
funds that were parked because

808
00:28:00,928 --> 00:28:02,963
of this. Whether we get into

809
00:28:02,963 --> 00:28:04,640
that or not, but ideas for the

810
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,631
future as well as police

811
00:28:04,631 --> 00:28:05,332
recruitment. This was

812
00:28:05,332 --> 00:28:05,966
something that I've had a lot

813
00:28:05,966 --> 00:28:08,366
of conversations with the

814
00:28:09,570 --> 00:28:11,138
chief of police, our office as

815
00:28:11,138 --> 00:28:12,706
well. We have to, you know,

816
00:28:12,706 --> 00:28:13,340
get some more focus on that. I

817
00:28:13,340 --> 00:28:15,642
know we're working on the

818
00:28:15,642 --> 00:28:18,642
vehicles with this as well.

819
00:28:18,645 --> 00:28:19,513
But down in Fort Worth, they

820
00:28:19,513 --> 00:28:20,414
did some really, really cool,

821
00:28:20,414 --> 00:28:23,414
innovative ideas that was able

822
00:28:24,418 --> 00:28:26,860
to net them. 3400 new police

823
00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:27,454
applications as soon as they

824
00:28:27,454 --> 00:28:28,389
had a new police chief. We

825
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:30,592
have very similar activities

826
00:28:30,592 --> 00:28:31,825
going on it wasn't causing ton

827
00:28:31,825 --> 00:28:32,393
of money. Additional things

828
00:28:32,393 --> 00:28:33,527
that I think could be

829
00:28:33,527 --> 00:28:34,295
beneficial to us is the

830
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:36,295
council. Our constituent

831
00:28:37,264 --> 00:28:37,965
management software where, you

832
00:28:37,965 --> 00:28:38,665
know, we don't have that. I'm

833
00:28:38,665 --> 00:28:41,665
using an Excel spreadsheet to

834
00:28:42,136 --> 00:28:42,870
manage things inside and and

835
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:43,704
then trying to share them with

836
00:28:43,704 --> 00:28:46,704
my liaison, who imagine has

837
00:28:46,907 --> 00:28:47,975
probably 25 of those. And last

838
00:28:47,975 --> 00:28:50,879
thing which is very important,

839
00:28:50,879 --> 00:28:52,346
which is talks drops across

840
00:28:52,346 --> 00:28:55,182
the city. We have got to come

841
00:28:55,182 --> 00:28:57,252
up with a solution on that

842
00:28:57,252 --> 00:28:58,152
where we while lost mine 2

843
00:28:58,152 --> 00:28:59,854
years ago. Some of these are

844
00:28:59,854 --> 00:29:02,156
the council says says town is

845
00:29:02,156 --> 00:29:03,590
me and we lost And these are

846
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:04,291
these are things that impact

847
00:29:04,291 --> 00:29:06,461
daily lives efficiencies, the

848
00:29:06,461 --> 00:29:07,127
quality life for people,

849
00:29:07,127 --> 00:29:09,527
environmental, all of these

850
00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:11,499
fall within these buckets you

851
00:29:11,499 --> 00:29:12,333
know, I I bring him up as want

852
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,734
to make sure do it publicly so

853
00:29:13,734 --> 00:29:14,436
we can hear about it. Talk

854
00:29:14,436 --> 00:29:16,203
about These are important to

855
00:29:16,203 --> 00:29:17,972
me important to community and

856
00:29:17,972 --> 00:29:18,673
I think Indianapolis want to

857
00:29:18,673 --> 00:29:19,307
see more of with that. I knew

858
00:29:19,307 --> 00:29:21,707
my time. MADAM PRESIDENT,

859
00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:27,948
thank you. Assistant. And now.

860
00:29:27,948 --> 00:29:28,883
Thank Thank you, PRESIDENT

861
00:29:28,883 --> 00:29:29,584
Louis, appreciate the

862
00:29:29,584 --> 00:29:31,351
opportunity provide a little

863
00:29:31,351 --> 00:29:32,870
more color to the part of the

864
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:34,823
spring festival, which is just

865
00:29:34,823 --> 00:29:35,523
a supplemental distribution as

866
00:29:35,523 --> 00:29:39,123
we were working on this, we

867
00:29:40,462 --> 00:29:41,496
were at a time when the

868
00:29:41,496 --> 00:29:43,640
governor made the decision to

869
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:43,798
suspend the gas tax at that

870
00:29:43,798 --> 00:29:47,398
time. We were looking at about

871
00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:50,105
a $400,000 a month losses city

872
00:29:50,105 --> 00:29:51,390
that when I was extended a

873
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:51,740
second time, it was even more

874
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:54,740
robust that extended to about

875
00:29:55,343 --> 00:29:56,770
3.4 million a month. And so in

876
00:29:56,770 --> 00:29:58,446
those conversations, we worked

877
00:29:58,446 --> 00:30:00,846
with the administration to

878
00:30:01,820 --> 00:30:02,283
this big prior the council to

879
00:30:02,283 --> 00:30:03,151
fence off a large

880
00:30:03,151 --> 00:30:03,852
appropriation of the

881
00:30:03,852 --> 00:30:05,153
supplemental up just a little

882
00:30:05,153 --> 00:30:08,153
over 15 million dollars to be

883
00:30:09,491 --> 00:30:10,358
able to backfill the current

884
00:30:10,358 --> 00:30:11,226
2026 capital plan. The

885
00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,626
governor has since announced

886
00:30:14,963 --> 00:30:16,898
that he's going to be pushing

887
00:30:16,898 --> 00:30:18,600
state finance board to

888
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600
reimburse the state. City for

889
00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:22,804
any lost gas tax revenues. I'm

890
00:30:22,804 --> 00:30:24,372
hopeful that goes through. But

891
00:30:24,372 --> 00:30:26,274
I just want as we're having a

892
00:30:26,274 --> 00:30:27,376
conversation about fiscal

893
00:30:27,376 --> 00:30:28,760
discipline and ensuring are

894
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,677
putting money towards roads,

895
00:30:29,677 --> 00:30:32,347
we free fence off almost 50%

896
00:30:32,347 --> 00:30:33,248
of the supplemental in order

897
00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:35,830
to prepare for just that. So

898
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:36,951
we'll as we go into the

899
00:30:36,951 --> 00:30:37,519
budget. We'll be looking to

900
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:38,553
appropriate those for

901
00:30:38,553 --> 00:30:39,422
hopefully some other one time

902
00:30:39,422 --> 00:30:42,422
spends. But just want the

903
00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:44,659
public to be aware that that

904
00:30:44,659 --> 00:30:45,326
we that we were taking

905
00:30:45,326 --> 00:30:46,429
precautionary measures. We

906
00:30:46,429 --> 00:30:47,960
have better news now, but

907
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,296
nothing is set in Stone. So

908
00:30:48,296 --> 00:30:50,332
thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

909
00:30:50,332 --> 00:30:52,468
thank you. Additional comments

910
00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:53,536
council Brown. Thank you,

911
00:30:53,536 --> 00:30:54,270
MADAM PRESIDENT, I appreciate

912
00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:56,500
the thoughtful commentary from

913
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,405
constituents and just wanted

914
00:30:59,410 --> 00:31:00,109
to kind of make the case for

915
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:00,775
why. I think the homeowner, a

916
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:01,944
paraffin in particular is a

917
00:31:01,944 --> 00:31:03,846
very good use of taxpayer

918
00:31:03,846 --> 00:31:04,547
dollars. I agree

919
00:31:04,547 --> 00:31:05,414
wholeheartedly with council

920
00:31:05,414 --> 00:31:07,883
heart describing the need for

921
00:31:07,883 --> 00:31:08,584
talks drop programs. The

922
00:31:08,584 --> 00:31:09,218
reason for that is because if

923
00:31:09,218 --> 00:31:11,887
you don't do that kind of

924
00:31:11,887 --> 00:31:13,756
preventative up in it from the

925
00:31:13,756 --> 00:31:15,624
government. What happens is

926
00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:16,358
people just dump toxic

927
00:31:16,358 --> 00:31:17,560
chemicals and then across far,

928
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,528
far more to end up cleaning up

929
00:31:19,528 --> 00:31:20,396
later. And I think the same

930
00:31:20,396 --> 00:31:22,398
can be true if we could spend

931
00:31:22,398 --> 00:31:23,650
$500,000 and keep people in

932
00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:24,433
their homes to prevent them

933
00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:25,935
from becoming homeless, which

934
00:31:25,935 --> 00:31:27,360
is where a lot of folks would

935
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,705
go otherwise. Think about how

936
00:31:29,705 --> 00:31:30,372
expensive emergency services

937
00:31:30,372 --> 00:31:31,207
calls our when dealing with

938
00:31:31,207 --> 00:31:34,207
our homeless. The situation. I

939
00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:36,910
think he's actually situation

940
00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,315
where ounce of prevention is

941
00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:40,816
than a pound of care. And it

942
00:31:40,816 --> 00:31:41,518
just saves taxpayers in the

943
00:31:41,518 --> 00:31:42,184
long run. So I encourage all

944
00:31:42,184 --> 00:31:45,184
colleagues to vote yes for

945
00:31:47,156 --> 00:31:47,823
this. Additional comments.

946
00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:51,423
Proceed to the board for a

947
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:01,434
vote. The proposal carries 24

948
00:32:02,104 --> 00:32:03,372
to 0 the next item item on our

949
00:32:03,372 --> 00:32:04,730
agenda proposal. Number one,

950
00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:04,740
88 refer to public safety and

951
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:06,740
criminal Justice Committee.

952
00:32:08,844 --> 00:32:09,780
Assistant Chair Alan. Thank

953
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:12,180
you. MADAM PRESIDENT proposal,

954
00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:15,118
number one, 88, 2026 approves

955
00:32:15,118 --> 00:32:17,118
an additional appropriation.

956
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,389
Totally 175,000 in the 226

957
00:32:19,389 --> 00:32:21,389
budget. The Indianapolis

958
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,292
Metropolitan Police Department

959
00:32:23,292 --> 00:32:25,961
for the purpose of funding the

960
00:32:25,961 --> 00:32:28,198
final payment of the impd

961
00:32:28,198 --> 00:32:30,000
these 2021 vehicle financing

962
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000
agreement do pass 11 a boat

963
00:32:35,972 --> 00:32:36,640
and 11 to 0 vote. So moved.

964
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,340
Emotion and properly moved.

965
00:32:37,340 --> 00:32:39,375
And second in other comments

966
00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:41,775
from counselors, Castor Brown.

967
00:32:42,779 --> 00:32:43,413
Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

968
00:32:43,413 --> 00:32:44,470
makes a very politically

969
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:46,470
contentious and unpopular

970
00:32:46,683 --> 00:32:48,351
comments here. But this

971
00:32:48,351 --> 00:32:49,286
proposal would give almost

972
00:32:49,286 --> 00:32:51,286
$900,000 additional in

973
00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:53,123
taxpayer funding for police

974
00:32:53,123 --> 00:32:53,990
vehicles. And we had some

975
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:56,390
great commentary in committee

976
00:32:56,993 --> 00:32:57,661
that I was able to review that

977
00:32:57,661 --> 00:32:59,290
mentioned that the main one

978
00:32:59,290 --> 00:33:01,298
main reason for this is

979
00:33:01,298 --> 00:33:03,133
because apparently car

980
00:33:03,133 --> 00:33:04,301
manufacturers are not

981
00:33:04,301 --> 00:33:06,200
producing pursuit rated sedans

982
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,939
anymore. And so that Durango

983
00:33:07,939 --> 00:33:08,672
suv is about the most

984
00:33:08,672 --> 00:33:11,720
affordable police vehicle that

985
00:33:12,175 --> 00:33:12,876
we can purchase right now. You

986
00:33:12,876 --> 00:33:13,477
know, here's what else out a

987
00:33:13,477 --> 00:33:14,177
little bit more like a

988
00:33:14,177 --> 00:33:16,577
conservative that I normally

989
00:33:17,481 --> 00:33:19,216
do when. Only government

990
00:33:19,216 --> 00:33:21,318
entities are purchasing from

991
00:33:21,318 --> 00:33:23,286
car companies and we just

992
00:33:23,286 --> 00:33:24,588
automatically will spend more

993
00:33:24,588 --> 00:33:25,288
money and just pay for a more

994
00:33:25,288 --> 00:33:27,157
expensive vehicle. What

995
00:33:27,157 --> 00:33:27,858
incentive are we giving the

996
00:33:27,858 --> 00:33:28,525
car manufacturers to actually

997
00:33:28,525 --> 00:33:30,930
produce the police to dance

998
00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:30,927
the way that they used to? As

999
00:33:30,927 --> 00:33:32,963
long as we just keep showing

1000
00:33:32,963 --> 00:33:36,563
the market that we will pay

1001
00:33:36,633 --> 00:33:37,334
any cost. And there's bounds

1002
00:33:37,334 --> 00:33:38,835
around any police pending. I

1003
00:33:38,835 --> 00:33:40,371
don't see how that will ever

1004
00:33:40,371 --> 00:33:42,407
end. And so in the context of

1005
00:33:42,407 --> 00:33:44,807
4% budget cuts for almost

1006
00:33:46,444 --> 00:33:47,144
every other department. In the

1007
00:33:47,144 --> 00:33:49,790
context of a situation where

1008
00:33:49,790 --> 00:33:51,849
300 officers down. But but are

1009
00:33:51,849 --> 00:33:52,617
still funding to the tune of

1010
00:33:52,617 --> 00:33:53,518
17, 43 officers, even though

1011
00:33:53,518 --> 00:33:54,919
we we know we're not going to

1012
00:33:54,919 --> 00:33:57,288
hire those officers in the

1013
00:33:57,288 --> 00:33:58,923
short term in the context of

1014
00:33:58,923 --> 00:34:00,491
and over 100% raise for first

1015
00:34:00,491 --> 00:34:02,600
year. Officers in the last 8

1016
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:02,693
years. I don't see how we can

1017
00:34:02,693 --> 00:34:04,662
continue to keep throwing

1018
00:34:04,662 --> 00:34:05,997
money at the police

1019
00:34:05,997 --> 00:34:06,764
department. You know, some

1020
00:34:06,764 --> 00:34:07,398
officers could use a bike.

1021
00:34:07,398 --> 00:34:09,798
Some officers could walk

1022
00:34:10,968 --> 00:34:12,636
around on foot. Morale is

1023
00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:13,570
important. I think that being

1024
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:15,705
around constituents and not

1025
00:34:15,705 --> 00:34:16,407
always behind the wheel of an

1026
00:34:16,407 --> 00:34:18,675
suv separated from them is a

1027
00:34:18,675 --> 00:34:20,310
good way of increasing police

1028
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:22,310
relationships with the

1029
00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:25,160
community. And so I just can't

1030
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,682
vote for this in good

1031
00:34:25,682 --> 00:34:26,417
conscience. You know what?

1032
00:34:26,417 --> 00:34:27,685
Officers to be safe, want them

1033
00:34:27,685 --> 00:34:29,687
to have all the equipment they

1034
00:34:29,687 --> 00:34:30,755
need. How many of us and only

1035
00:34:30,755 --> 00:34:33,755
40 years old, but every movie

1036
00:34:34,492 --> 00:34:35,159
from the 80's and 90's showed

1037
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:36,394
2 police officer sitting a

1038
00:34:36,394 --> 00:34:37,762
vehicle together. When you

1039
00:34:37,762 --> 00:34:39,430
watch anybody being pulled

1040
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:40,330
over to the average U.S. And

1041
00:34:40,330 --> 00:34:41,766
one police cruiser know for

1042
00:34:41,766 --> 00:34:42,567
officer safety will send

1043
00:34:42,567 --> 00:34:44,469
multiple police cruisers. So

1044
00:34:44,469 --> 00:34:45,169
we have multiple vehicles

1045
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:46,338
going to the site at the same

1046
00:34:46,338 --> 00:34:47,505
scene of a crime

1047
00:34:47,505 --> 00:34:48,540
investigation. To me, it's a

1048
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:49,574
no-brainer that we need to be

1049
00:34:49,574 --> 00:34:50,908
saving money. We need to be

1050
00:34:50,908 --> 00:34:51,476
treating our taxpayers with

1051
00:34:51,476 --> 00:34:52,144
respect. As I urge my

1052
00:34:52,144 --> 00:34:54,544
colleagues about now. Thank

1053
00:34:56,614 --> 00:34:59,140
you. Thank you. CHAIRMAN

1054
00:34:59,484 --> 00:35:00,151
Perkins, thank you. MADAM

1055
00:35:00,151 --> 00:35:02,820
PRESIDENT, I do want to say

1056
00:35:02,820 --> 00:35:05,591
thank you to assistant chair

1057
00:35:05,591 --> 00:35:06,424
for the conversation that we

1058
00:35:06,424 --> 00:35:08,824
had in committee regarding

1059
00:35:10,996 --> 00:35:11,729
this particular issue. And

1060
00:35:11,729 --> 00:35:14,729
while I am reluctantly support

1061
00:35:16,802 --> 00:35:17,703
of tonight. We have asked both

1062
00:35:17,703 --> 00:35:20,703
in committee and in direct

1063
00:35:21,539 --> 00:35:23,442
conversation in our caucus for

1064
00:35:23,442 --> 00:35:24,575
impd to provide us some

1065
00:35:24,575 --> 00:35:25,277
clarity around their budgetary

1066
00:35:25,277 --> 00:35:28,277
needs as we're entering into

1067
00:35:28,447 --> 00:35:31,447
the budget season. My concern

1068
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,686
continues to be impd to as an

1069
00:35:35,686 --> 00:35:38,860
entity of the largest

1070
00:35:38,489 --> 00:35:40,889
percentage and the overall

1071
00:35:42,594 --> 00:35:44,429
city budget. And it seems to

1072
00:35:44,429 --> 00:35:45,163
that is a consistent request.

1073
00:35:45,163 --> 00:35:47,232
Whenever there's a fiscal from

1074
00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:49,632
impd for something additional

1075
00:35:51,169 --> 00:35:52,371
and we don't have clear

1076
00:35:52,371 --> 00:35:55,741
picture off the scope and need

1077
00:35:55,741 --> 00:35:56,408
from the department and what

1078
00:35:56,408 --> 00:35:59,411
that means for us as we are

1079
00:35:59,411 --> 00:36:00,460
going in the budget process,

1080
00:36:00,460 --> 00:36:01,880
we will start the public

1081
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,880
budget process next month. And

1082
00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:07,417
what would what I've

1083
00:36:08,154 --> 00:36:09,122
requested? I McCall,

1084
00:36:09,122 --> 00:36:09,789
colleagues of joining along

1085
00:36:09,789 --> 00:36:11,824
that is to say to impd, we

1086
00:36:11,824 --> 00:36:12,492
need a full picture of your

1087
00:36:12,492 --> 00:36:14,727
needs and requests as we're

1088
00:36:14,727 --> 00:36:17,727
going into this fiscal year.

1089
00:36:17,830 --> 00:36:18,497
And so I just want call on the

1090
00:36:18,497 --> 00:36:20,999
leadership of impd along as

1091
00:36:20,999 --> 00:36:22,134
well as administration to make

1092
00:36:22,134 --> 00:36:22,801
sure that you're providing

1093
00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:24,536
that to the council's main

1094
00:36:24,536 --> 00:36:26,805
gauge in this conversation.

1095
00:36:26,805 --> 00:36:27,406
Run-up to the support of

1096
00:36:27,406 --> 00:36:29,740
tonight, one, a police

1097
00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:31,778
department to know that we

1098
00:36:31,778 --> 00:36:33,712
want the best for our city,

1099
00:36:33,712 --> 00:36:35,714
but we also need to be

1100
00:36:35,714 --> 00:36:37,116
fiscally responsible. And this

1101
00:36:37,116 --> 00:36:37,784
keeps coming up police

1102
00:36:37,784 --> 00:36:39,385
department. And so we just

1103
00:36:39,385 --> 00:36:40,319
want to share that. Thank you,

1104
00:36:40,319 --> 00:36:42,354
MADAM PRESIDENT, thank you,

1105
00:36:42,354 --> 00:36:44,754
MR. CHAIRMAN Councilor Heart.

1106
00:36:46,459 --> 00:36:47,694
Thank you. MADAM Chair. I want

1107
00:36:47,694 --> 00:36:49,428
to say I've got no reluctance

1108
00:36:49,428 --> 00:36:51,630
on this very proud to support

1109
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:52,898
men or women blue of the city

1110
00:36:52,898 --> 00:36:54,670
of Indianapolis. There's a few

1111
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:55,868
more details that were left

1112
00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:56,568
out of One of the reasons that

1113
00:36:56,568 --> 00:36:59,805
this is coming from in front

1114
00:36:59,805 --> 00:37:01,407
of us today is essentially

1115
00:37:01,407 --> 00:37:02,400
these are on a leasing model

1116
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,440
that they're paying least

1117
00:37:04,444 --> 00:37:05,678
lingo, renewing get the new

1118
00:37:05,678 --> 00:37:06,446
vehicles. The problem, one of

1119
00:37:06,446 --> 00:37:07,881
the problems behind that is

1120
00:37:07,881 --> 00:37:08,581
that the bond rates now are

1121
00:37:08,581 --> 00:37:11,581
higher than what they were

1122
00:37:11,584 --> 00:37:12,419
originally. So it's more

1123
00:37:12,419 --> 00:37:13,860
expensive to borrow money to

1124
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:15,988
go buy the vehicles to pay

1125
00:37:15,988 --> 00:37:16,723
them off for years. One of the

1126
00:37:16,723 --> 00:37:17,390
things that we've learned even

1127
00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:20,260
from the fire department of

1128
00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:24,197
this year's is that it is more

1129
00:37:24,197 --> 00:37:25,198
fiscally responsible

1130
00:37:25,198 --> 00:37:26,833
essentially use the leasing

1131
00:37:26,833 --> 00:37:27,534
model because we don't pay all

1132
00:37:27,534 --> 00:37:28,234
the deferred maintenance. If

1133
00:37:28,234 --> 00:37:31,404
we don't do this, we're going

1134
00:37:31,404 --> 00:37:32,371
to end up with more costs and

1135
00:37:32,371 --> 00:37:33,605
paying maintenance on

1136
00:37:33,605 --> 00:37:34,741
vehicles. We learned that the

1137
00:37:34,741 --> 00:37:35,340
certain vehicles aren't as

1138
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:37,340
reliable and efficient.

1139
00:37:38,511 --> 00:37:40,146
Effective Lee is if their

1140
00:37:40,146 --> 00:37:40,846
direct then that's it. They're

1141
00:37:40,846 --> 00:37:42,248
total, whereas older vehicles

1142
00:37:42,248 --> 00:37:43,382
that they had the ability to

1143
00:37:43,382 --> 00:37:44,840
be repaired. We're not in that

1144
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,119
position anymore. And we need

1145
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:47,253
to keep these vehicles and a

1146
00:37:47,253 --> 00:37:48,353
newer position. But we also

1147
00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:49,923
have to keep a certain number

1148
00:37:49,923 --> 00:37:52,250
of them. We learned that

1149
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:52,759
evening essentially to make

1150
00:37:52,759 --> 00:37:53,259
sure that we had a stock for

1151
00:37:53,259 --> 00:37:54,160
when are getting

1152
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,560
repaired. Vehicles are getting

1153
00:37:58,698 --> 00:38:01,698
prepared for that rotation. So

1154
00:38:01,735 --> 00:38:03,369
I think that this is fiscally

1155
00:38:03,369 --> 00:38:05,369
responsible, responsible thing

1156
00:38:06,539 --> 00:38:07,640
to do. I think it both from

1157
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,475
the finance point, but also

1158
00:38:08,475 --> 00:38:09,175
from the part of trying to

1159
00:38:09,175 --> 00:38:09,910
make sure that we're showing

1160
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:11,845
officers that we do care about

1161
00:38:11,845 --> 00:38:12,912
their needs and that this is

1162
00:38:12,912 --> 00:38:16,512
this is their office, right? I

1163
00:38:16,784 --> 00:38:17,518
do think that we are gonna

1164
00:38:17,518 --> 00:38:18,151
have to have this conversation

1165
00:38:18,151 --> 00:38:20,887
again because it was made

1166
00:38:20,887 --> 00:38:21,822
clear in committee. My change

1167
00:38:21,822 --> 00:38:23,224
to this is that we need to do

1168
00:38:23,224 --> 00:38:23,958
the full thing, not just a

1169
00:38:23,958 --> 00:38:27,595
piece of it. So I do expect to

1170
00:38:27,595 --> 00:38:28,294
see it again in the fall. But

1171
00:38:28,294 --> 00:38:30,598
hopefully that gets a street

1172
00:38:30,598 --> 00:38:31,664
up for adequate rotation. But

1173
00:38:31,664 --> 00:38:33,600
this is a good thing in this

1174
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,236
will help us in the long run.

1175
00:38:36,236 --> 00:38:38,236
Thank Additional comments.

1176
00:38:39,472 --> 00:38:41,872
Councilor Cahill. Thank you,

1177
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:43,944
MADAM PRESIDENT, I did want to

1178
00:38:43,944 --> 00:38:46,312
address comment about impd

1179
00:38:46,312 --> 00:38:49,500
coming to the council with

1180
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:50,451
these types requests. This was

1181
00:38:50,451 --> 00:38:51,685
in the request and was not

1182
00:38:51,685 --> 00:38:52,952
fulfilled in the budget last

1183
00:38:52,952 --> 00:38:55,990
year. So I'm happy to see that

1184
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:57,424
it's in a fiscal we're now

1185
00:38:57,424 --> 00:38:58,492
funding But this was brought

1186
00:38:58,492 --> 00:39:01,620
to our attention in fact, they

1187
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:01,696
want to 1.5 million for new

1188
00:39:01,696 --> 00:39:04,696
vehicles last year and it

1189
00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:06,801
didn't make the budget. So I

1190
00:39:06,801 --> 00:39:09,303
do think they have come to us

1191
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:10,370
and through the administration

1192
00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:10,671
and simply not everything they

1193
00:39:10,671 --> 00:39:13,710
wanted. Despite some the

1194
00:39:13,707 --> 00:39:15,707
claims here. Additional

1195
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:18,780
comments will counselors. Is

1196
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:19,380
there anyone in the audience

1197
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:21,382
that wishes to speak to

1198
00:39:21,382 --> 00:39:23,382
proposal? Number one, 88?

1199
00:39:28,323 --> 00:39:31,323
Please state your name. My

1200
00:39:32,927 --> 00:39:33,627
name is William Dollar of so

1201
00:39:33,627 --> 00:39:36,630
District 8 but have a medical

1202
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:38,999
issue. So if I'm kind of

1203
00:39:38,999 --> 00:39:41,736
sorry, that's so many him on

1204
00:39:41,736 --> 00:39:43,104
mailbox the other day called

1205
00:39:43,104 --> 00:39:43,971
the police. They drove right

1206
00:39:43,971 --> 00:39:45,390
by my house, didn't stop.

1207
00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:45,740
That. Came through hours later

1208
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:47,675
and said, hey, we don't know

1209
00:39:47,675 --> 00:39:50,878
what to do about it will go

1210
00:39:50,878 --> 00:39:51,612
chat. I was on video chasing

1211
00:39:51,612 --> 00:39:52,313
out the guy hit my mailbox. So

1212
00:39:52,313 --> 00:39:55,490
didn't get any recourse from

1213
00:39:55,490 --> 00:39:55,783
that. This I mean, we've all

1214
00:39:55,783 --> 00:39:59,983
seen in a city how many people

1215
00:40:01,289 --> 00:40:02,390
running red lights today. I

1216
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:03,124
watched Reddit run a red light

1217
00:40:03,124 --> 00:40:04,580
while police officer was right

1218
00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:07,940
in the front line at the light

1219
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:08,597
and did not pull them over. So

1220
00:40:08,597 --> 00:40:09,297
I don't know why the police

1221
00:40:09,297 --> 00:40:10,731
have been extortion. Everyone

1222
00:40:10,731 --> 00:40:12,601
is supposed to protected,

1223
00:40:12,601 --> 00:40:13,301
especially when the city is

1224
00:40:13,301 --> 00:40:14,690
saying we need money. We need

1225
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:16,637
all data centers to come in

1226
00:40:16,637 --> 00:40:17,339
and give us more money. And

1227
00:40:17,339 --> 00:40:20,339
then meanwhile, they ask for

1228
00:40:21,243 --> 00:40:23,430
like what? What's the purpose

1229
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:23,712
of this like? I don't see why

1230
00:40:23,712 --> 00:40:24,413
we need it. The more money

1231
00:40:24,413 --> 00:40:27,416
when they already take up so

1232
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:28,160
much of our budget as for a

1233
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,717
time of being fiscally

1234
00:40:28,717 --> 00:40:29,316
responsible. I think to start

1235
00:40:29,316 --> 00:40:32,316
there, start cut in the

1236
00:40:36,525 --> 00:40:39,525
budget. Larry van, please sure

1237
00:40:40,429 --> 00:40:41,630
what is impd that have the

1238
00:40:41,630 --> 00:40:43,463
appropriated funds in the

1239
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:45,400
hands of a commissioner.

1240
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,300
Because as long as I've been

1241
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:48,403
coming down there, it's always

1242
00:40:48,403 --> 00:40:49,237
been that way when the money

1243
00:40:49,237 --> 00:40:50,439
is appropriated in this room

1244
00:40:50,439 --> 00:40:53,439
and taken from the citizens.

1245
00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:56,378
That gun point. Then the mayor

1246
00:40:56,378 --> 00:40:58,313
of Indianapolis gets the said

1247
00:40:58,313 --> 00:41:00,148
were goes. So as long as we're

1248
00:41:00,148 --> 00:41:01,983
sitting in this room, have a

1249
00:41:01,983 --> 00:41:03,983
arguments about appropriations

1250
00:41:04,486 --> 00:41:05,987
that have left this round. The

1251
00:41:05,987 --> 00:41:09,424
call for the mayor right now.

1252
00:41:09,424 --> 00:41:10,580
You're going do nothing. And I

1253
00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:12,627
know some you think it's

1254
00:41:12,627 --> 00:41:13,361
funny. You think it's a laugh.

1255
00:41:13,361 --> 00:41:15,831
But the people who elected you

1256
00:41:15,831 --> 00:41:17,199
are also looking at you. This

1257
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:18,330
has been for many years, a

1258
00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:20,135
problem ever since we got the

1259
00:41:20,135 --> 00:41:23,380
tif districts. And so for

1260
00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:25,380
where commissioners were

1261
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:28,874
displaced from from from dpw.

1262
00:41:29,712 --> 00:41:32,712
From Public Safety and also

1263
00:41:33,715 --> 00:41:34,484
from for getting a 3rd

1264
00:41:34,484 --> 00:41:37,484
Somebody can remind but any

1265
00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:39,200
case we sat in this room,

1266
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,688
everything these people do you

1267
00:41:39,688 --> 00:41:42,880
people at home, everything

1268
00:41:43,358 --> 00:41:45,560
they do with that gun point

1269
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,231
because if you go into role as

1270
00:41:48,231 --> 00:41:48,930
a van that they will, you will

1271
00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:49,664
definitely thank Beat me with

1272
00:41:49,664 --> 00:41:51,634
the point goals certainly will

1273
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:54,340
get. Thank you. Additional

1274
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:57,707
comments from the audience.

1275
00:41:57,707 --> 00:42:01,307
Seeing no proceed to the board

1276
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:12,180
for a The proposal carries 23

1277
00:42:13,389 --> 00:42:14,900
2 line. The next item on our

1278
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:16,490
agenda proposal. Number one,

1279
00:42:24,867 --> 00:42:27,267
59. Leader Evans. Thank you.

1280
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:30,940
MADAM PRESIDENT. On JUNE 3rd,

1281
00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:31,974
2026 at the nbc's regular

1282
00:42:31,974 --> 00:42:33,342
scheduled meeting. The

1283
00:42:33,342 --> 00:42:35,342
commission acknowledged the

1284
00:42:36,379 --> 00:42:38,779
withdrawal of rezoning case

1285
00:42:40,416 --> 00:42:41,840
2025 Dash 0 in Dash. 1, 2, 6,

1286
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:41,818
because the case no longer

1287
00:42:41,818 --> 00:42:43,419
exists. There is no need for a

1288
00:42:43,419 --> 00:42:44,287
public hearing. If there are

1289
00:42:44,287 --> 00:42:44,887
no questions or comments for

1290
00:42:44,887 --> 00:42:46,156
my fellow councilors, I

1291
00:42:46,156 --> 00:42:49,156
recommend that we by consent

1292
00:42:49,792 --> 00:42:52,192
acknowledge the withdrawal of

1293
00:42:52,428 --> 00:42:53,396
rezoning case 2025 dash the

1294
00:42:53,396 --> 00:42:55,396
Dash 1, 2, 6, proposal. Number

1295
00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:02,772
one, 59. At ascent. The number

1296
00:43:02,772 --> 00:43:04,772
one, 59 2026 has been

1297
00:43:04,841 --> 00:43:06,841
withdrawn proposal. Number

1298
00:43:08,878 --> 00:43:10,114
206, proposal. Number 2, 0, 6,

1299
00:43:10,114 --> 00:43:11,380
2026 is a rezoning certified

1300
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:12,140
for denial by the Metropolitan

1301
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:14,140
Development Commission on

1302
00:43:15,251 --> 00:43:17,251
JUNE. First 20 26 rezoning

1303
00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:22,570
case 2025 zone 0, 8, 4, is

1304
00:43:23,527 --> 00:43:24,161
located at 40 1 South Keystone

1305
00:43:24,161 --> 00:43:26,290
Avenue in Perry Township

1306
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:28,290
Council District 19, the

1307
00:43:30,501 --> 00:43:33,501
rezoning proposal is too rizo

1308
00:43:37,507 --> 00:43:38,342
to Rezone Acres. One point 0,

1309
00:43:38,342 --> 00:43:40,144
7, 5, from sea for district, 2

1310
00:43:40,144 --> 00:43:43,744
c s district to provide all 3,

1311
00:43:43,947 --> 00:43:45,749
2, to provide for all c 3 uses

1312
00:43:45,749 --> 00:43:48,149
and automobile feeling station

1313
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:50,554
section one. 51 through 79,

1314
00:43:50,554 --> 00:43:51,989
the code clearly outlines the

1315
00:43:51,989 --> 00:43:53,190
process for public hearings

1316
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:55,726
for rezoning case is certified

1317
00:43:55,726 --> 00:43:56,460
by Metropolitan Development

1318
00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:58,295
Commission. All callers should

1319
00:43:58,295 --> 00:44:00,364
have received a copy of those

1320
00:44:00,364 --> 00:44:01,231
guidelines and their meeting

1321
00:44:01,231 --> 00:44:01,999
packets and will adhere

1322
00:44:01,999 --> 00:44:04,135
closely to those guidelines

1323
00:44:04,135 --> 00:44:06,535
and timely hits castle

1324
00:44:07,304 --> 00:44:08,138
miscarry those district. It

1325
00:44:08,138 --> 00:44:08,773
his district. A rezoning is

1326
00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:11,773
located. A call for that

1327
00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:14,145
matter for hearing at our JUNE

1328
00:44:14,145 --> 00:44:15,612
first meeting, I have advised

1329
00:44:15,612 --> 00:44:16,380
by our general counsel that

1330
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:18,480
the preliminary hearing has

1331
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,918
been held and no compromise or

1332
00:44:20,918 --> 00:44:22,586
agreement has been reached as

1333
00:44:22,586 --> 00:44:23,220
soon to our rules. I will call

1334
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:25,620
for council miscarry for

1335
00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:29,858
opening comments. Thank you,

1336
00:44:31,228 --> 00:44:31,962
MADAM PRESIDENT as an elected

1337
00:44:31,962 --> 00:44:34,362
council member of District 19.

1338
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,468
I've requested it. The zoning

1339
00:44:37,468 --> 00:44:40,370
of property of my district

1340
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:41,939
located 4,001 South Keystone

1341
00:44:41,939 --> 00:44:45,800
Perry Township now Zone c 3 to

1342
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:45,676
be amended to c 4 and allow

1343
00:44:45,676 --> 00:44:48,676
the sale of gasoline. That

1344
00:44:50,914 --> 00:44:51,782
location. I received numerous

1345
00:44:51,782 --> 00:44:55,382
requests from the on that side

1346
00:44:57,988 --> 00:44:59,124
of street. People East. It's

1347
00:44:59,124 --> 00:44:59,791
easier to get into this place.

1348
00:44:59,791 --> 00:45:02,791
And the dax so convenient.

1349
00:45:05,830 --> 00:45:06,498
Food. The site was purchased

1350
00:45:06,498 --> 00:45:09,498
persons and by the current

1351
00:45:11,169 --> 00:45:12,469
owner. And it was a total

1352
00:45:12,469 --> 00:45:14,172
mess. And he totally at toward

1353
00:45:14,172 --> 00:45:14,906
the building down because all

1354
00:45:14,906 --> 00:45:17,906
the trash and started over

1355
00:45:21,312 --> 00:45:24,312
with a new building. Each

1356
00:45:24,516 --> 00:45:25,583
hearing feels that committee

1357
00:45:25,583 --> 00:45:27,652
the owner asked for to build a

1358
00:45:27,652 --> 00:45:30,210
defense around the property at

1359
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:33,621
one time, MR. Send wreck of

1360
00:45:33,992 --> 00:45:35,260
owner am l sec property. I

1361
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:36,261
worked with me in zoning

1362
00:45:36,261 --> 00:45:39,261
appeals board to totally re

1363
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:42,400
have the site from tear it

1364
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,670
down and build a new building.

1365
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:46,871
He spent a million dollars on

1366
00:45:46,871 --> 00:45:47,906
the property he's offered to

1367
00:45:47,906 --> 00:45:48,540
community store for about a

1368
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:51,540
year, but it can support

1369
00:45:52,210 --> 00:45:55,513
itself is out of gas. And with

1370
00:45:55,513 --> 00:45:56,948
that, give my time MR. On.

1371
00:45:56,948 --> 00:45:59,517
Thank you. Council miscarry. I

1372
00:45:59,517 --> 00:46:00,185
will now call the petitioner

1373
00:46:00,185 --> 00:46:02,687
to state their case. Please

1374
00:46:02,687 --> 00:46:03,556
keep in mind that you have 20

1375
00:46:03,556 --> 00:46:04,289
minutes total for your

1376
00:46:04,289 --> 00:46:06,289
presentation. Regardless of

1377
00:46:07,158 --> 00:46:09,360
how many dissipate you MAY

1378
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,162
choose not to use the full 20

1379
00:46:11,162 --> 00:46:12,664
minutes or save a portion of

1380
00:46:12,664 --> 00:46:13,833
it for the rebuttal. Our clerk

1381
00:46:13,833 --> 00:46:14,532
will keep track of the time

1382
00:46:14,532 --> 00:46:17,702
and a buzzer will sound when

1383
00:46:17,702 --> 00:46:19,400
your time is up. If you do not

1384
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,400
use a portion of your time,

1385
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,706
our clerk will record the

1386
00:46:20,706 --> 00:46:23,408
amount you have remaining for

1387
00:46:23,408 --> 00:46:25,808
your rebuttal. You finish

1388
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,790
before the buzzer, the clerk

1389
00:46:27,790 --> 00:46:29,800
will advise you of the

1390
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,317
remaining time, MR. Hinds,

1391
00:46:31,317 --> 00:46:34,317
thank you very much. MADAM

1392
00:46:35,287 --> 00:46:36,321
PRESIDENT City Council members

1393
00:46:36,321 --> 00:46:36,956
appreciate the opportunity to

1394
00:46:36,956 --> 00:46:40,556
be here. My name for the

1395
00:46:40,826 --> 00:46:41,527
records. Gregory And with

1396
00:46:41,527 --> 00:46:43,295
those McKinnon Evans, I also

1397
00:46:43,295 --> 00:46:46,295
have Madison was over with

1398
00:46:49,869 --> 00:46:53,439
tonight. Also, I have the one

1399
00:46:53,439 --> 00:46:56,409
of the members of on llc.

1400
00:46:56,409 --> 00:47:00,900
Shook wonder saying he was by

1401
00:47:00,146 --> 00:47:02,381
Sunday and he owns 49% of a

1402
00:47:02,381 --> 00:47:05,981
family in Amman and his wife

1403
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,900
owns 51%. We are here is legal

1404
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:12,580
counsel pursuant to one 51

1405
00:47:12,580 --> 00:47:14,693
day. 79 other revised code of

1406
00:47:14,693 --> 00:47:16,695
the consolidated City County

1407
00:47:16,695 --> 00:47:18,695
special procedures rezoning.

1408
00:47:21,734 --> 00:47:23,102
Ordinances. And which from

1409
00:47:23,102 --> 00:47:25,502
center ic 3, 6, dash, 7 dash 4

1410
00:47:25,738 --> 00:47:28,138
608 to change the current

1411
00:47:30,409 --> 00:47:33,245
restrictions to sell gas. Its

1412
00:47:33,245 --> 00:47:35,150
location at 4, 0, 0, 1, south

1413
00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:38,615
to stone. And it's about to

1414
00:47:41,587 --> 00:47:42,221
one point '07 acres. Mr,

1415
00:47:42,221 --> 00:47:45,221
saying he's been in this

1416
00:47:46,492 --> 00:47:47,326
business for quite a while.

1417
00:47:47,326 --> 00:47:49,950
His story is I think you have

1418
00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:49,829
to talk about him and what

1419
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:51,864
he's accomplished since season

1420
00:47:51,864 --> 00:47:55,464
one driving the the ship on

1421
00:47:56,435 --> 00:47:57,103
this project. He came

1422
00:47:57,103 --> 00:47:59,503
immigrate. It's the United

1423
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:00,707
States with basically nothing.

1424
00:48:00,707 --> 00:48:01,408
He's originally from the

1425
00:48:01,408 --> 00:48:04,408
northern area of India called

1426
00:48:04,610 --> 00:48:07,610
Putin job. Very, very poor

1427
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,117
area of India. He worked in

1428
00:48:10,117 --> 00:48:14,317
New York City as a taxi driver

1429
00:48:15,989 --> 00:48:17,490
and 2004, he arrived in

1430
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:20,193
Indianapolis and least a gas

1431
00:48:20,193 --> 00:48:23,193
station to support his wife.

1432
00:48:24,398 --> 00:48:25,766
And their family. From those

1433
00:48:25,766 --> 00:48:26,867
humble beginnings. They worked

1434
00:48:26,867 --> 00:48:29,169
hires Lee to create

1435
00:48:29,169 --> 00:48:31,569
opportunities for their family

1436
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:33,390
following the American dream.

1437
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:33,840
Over the past 20 years, they

1438
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,240
have dedicated their company,

1439
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:38,678
the building and operating

1440
00:48:38,678 --> 00:48:39,614
successful businesses with

1441
00:48:39,614 --> 00:48:40,347
particular expertise in the

1442
00:48:40,347 --> 00:48:42,747
gas station, convenience store

1443
00:48:43,283 --> 00:48:45,683
industry. Today. They oversee

1444
00:48:46,553 --> 00:48:47,154
more than 100 properties

1445
00:48:47,154 --> 00:48:48,922
throughout the Midwest,

1446
00:48:48,922 --> 00:48:49,523
including approximately 30

1447
00:48:49,523 --> 00:48:51,923
stations located in the

1448
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,460
Indianapolis area. Sony has

1449
00:48:58,980 --> 00:48:58,765
wife 3 children. One Med

1450
00:48:58,765 --> 00:49:02,365
school wins a doctor or any

1451
00:49:03,236 --> 00:49:03,937
other civil student. Sony's

1452
00:49:03,937 --> 00:49:05,937
family develops developments

1453
00:49:05,972 --> 00:49:08,975
provide more than just of fuel

1454
00:49:08,975 --> 00:49:11,375
and convenience items. They

1455
00:49:11,478 --> 00:49:12,479
create jobs, tax revenue,

1456
00:49:12,479 --> 00:49:14,479
increased commercial activity

1457
00:49:14,781 --> 00:49:16,917
and provide essential goods

1458
00:49:16,917 --> 00:49:18,286
and services to the local

1459
00:49:18,286 --> 00:49:19,190
communities and what he's been

1460
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:21,955
able to do as he goes into the

1461
00:49:21,955 --> 00:49:23,190
site's a are like this site.

1462
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:25,525
We're totally devastated. And

1463
00:49:25,525 --> 00:49:27,925
Hoyer is pretty devastated.

1464
00:49:28,161 --> 00:49:30,964
And he's able to go in. Put in

1465
00:49:30,964 --> 00:49:33,364
a gas station, convenience

1466
00:49:34,869 --> 00:49:36,360
stores and then build from

1467
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,737
that and bring in businesses.

1468
00:49:36,737 --> 00:49:40,337
And exactly what trying to do

1469
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:46,910
here. So they also provide

1470
00:49:47,148 --> 00:49:47,882
contribute to local charities

1471
00:49:47,882 --> 00:49:48,516
in support. Local activity not

1472
00:49:48,516 --> 00:49:49,816
only here in Indianapolis

1473
00:49:49,816 --> 00:49:52,816
area, but all throughout the

1474
00:49:54,255 --> 00:49:57,255
state of Indiana. They now

1475
00:49:57,925 --> 00:49:58,659
approval for the project at 4,

1476
00:49:58,659 --> 00:50:00,659
0, 0, 1, South Keystone Avenue

1477
00:50:01,295 --> 00:50:03,164
to continue that same kind of

1478
00:50:03,164 --> 00:50:04,532
work by investing in the local

1479
00:50:04,532 --> 00:50:05,133
community. From Tribune,

1480
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,533
long-term value to the

1481
00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:10,705
surrounding area. Ironically,

1482
00:50:10,705 --> 00:50:13,274
son his family have a long

1483
00:50:13,274 --> 00:50:16,274
relationship to this area. And

1484
00:50:16,477 --> 00:50:17,145
that's why he's there. There

1485
00:50:17,145 --> 00:50:18,713
were long-term residents of

1486
00:50:18,713 --> 00:50:21,713
the south side of Indianapolis

1487
00:50:21,983 --> 00:50:22,683
and resided on South Houston.

1488
00:50:22,683 --> 00:50:25,920
Just a few blocks away from

1489
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,621
where site is. So they've seen

1490
00:50:26,621 --> 00:50:29,210
everything that's happened in

1491
00:50:30,491 --> 00:50:31,192
the community down there.

1492
00:50:31,192 --> 00:50:33,294
Their daughters graduate from

1493
00:50:33,294 --> 00:50:35,196
wrong, calling high school in

1494
00:50:35,196 --> 00:50:37,465
his first gas station that

1495
00:50:37,465 --> 00:50:39,600
owned his own south Times.

1496
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,301
Thompson Road. So they've been

1497
00:50:40,301 --> 00:50:42,970
very vested in this area and

1498
00:50:42,970 --> 00:50:45,773
want to take it forward. You

1499
00:50:45,773 --> 00:50:46,374
know, just a little going back

1500
00:50:46,374 --> 00:50:47,410
to what transpired. In

1501
00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:50,410
addition, I could spend all

1502
00:50:50,645 --> 00:50:54,245
day doing that they bought the

1503
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:57,749
property in 2000. 22, it had

1504
00:50:58,190 --> 00:51:00,419
been abandoned since 2017. It

1505
00:51:01,722 --> 00:51:03,458
was owned by company in

1506
00:51:03,458 --> 00:51:05,326
Muncie. And they just

1507
00:51:05,326 --> 00:51:07,361
basically let it and abandoned

1508
00:51:07,361 --> 00:51:08,290
it. When I first went down or

1509
00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:09,665
to see the property and for

1510
00:51:09,665 --> 00:51:13,568
him to talk to me and we but

1511
00:51:13,568 --> 00:51:16,205
with the counselor, the scary

1512
00:51:16,205 --> 00:51:17,205
it was nothing but trash.

1513
00:51:17,205 --> 00:51:20,805
Heaps of trace people are just

1514
00:51:22,578 --> 00:51:23,311
dumping stuff there all the

1515
00:51:23,311 --> 00:51:24,460
time. The buildings were

1516
00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:26,446
uninhabited infected are being

1517
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:28,751
used by Grinch drug dealing

1518
00:51:28,751 --> 00:51:30,385
council miscarried received

1519
00:51:30,385 --> 00:51:32,654
numerous complaints about this

1520
00:51:32,654 --> 00:51:35,758
site in what what they should

1521
00:51:35,758 --> 00:51:38,194
could they do about it? And

1522
00:51:38,194 --> 00:51:38,894
Sonny and his company stepped

1523
00:51:38,894 --> 00:51:40,950
up. They bought the property

1524
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:44,295
and then they tried to go in

1525
00:51:46,268 --> 00:51:47,703
and get. Permission to gas.

1526
00:51:47,703 --> 00:51:48,303
Now, there was there was

1527
00:51:48,303 --> 00:51:50,703
agreement signed by the

1528
00:51:51,740 --> 00:51:53,475
previous owner. To do about

1529
00:51:53,475 --> 00:51:56,278
everything he wanted to do

1530
00:51:56,278 --> 00:51:57,120
there except so gas because

1531
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,114
they had were to deal with the

1532
00:51:59,114 --> 00:52:01,251
property next door to bring in

1533
00:52:01,251 --> 00:52:04,251
a 21st Amendment liquor store.

1534
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:04,987
And so that had been excluded.

1535
00:52:04,987 --> 00:52:06,889
What at the time about the

1536
00:52:06,889 --> 00:52:09,224
property? And he knew But he

1537
00:52:09,224 --> 00:52:11,360
wanted to try go forward

1538
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,610
remedy the situation and see

1539
00:52:12,610 --> 00:52:14,963
if he could make it work and

1540
00:52:14,963 --> 00:52:15,697
then. There's enough property

1541
00:52:15,697 --> 00:52:17,466
done or he could do many other

1542
00:52:17,466 --> 00:52:19,466
things. Unfortunately, nobody

1543
00:52:20,602 --> 00:52:21,236
else has ever approached him

1544
00:52:21,236 --> 00:52:22,604
and nothing else has ever

1545
00:52:22,604 --> 00:52:25,604
happened to it because you've

1546
00:52:25,841 --> 00:52:26,508
got to have gas fueling

1547
00:52:26,508 --> 00:52:30,108
decision to make to make it

1548
00:52:30,513 --> 00:52:32,913
work. 3 different times we

1549
00:52:36,419 --> 00:52:37,886
have been before the planning

1550
00:52:37,886 --> 00:52:39,886
commission in 3 different

1551
00:52:40,155 --> 00:52:41,925
times. We have been denied

1552
00:52:41,925 --> 00:52:42,724
because they keep saying,

1553
00:52:42,724 --> 00:52:45,724
well, there's no need for

1554
00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:47,830
another gas station. Which to

1555
00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:48,430
Is it accurate if you go

1556
00:52:48,430 --> 00:52:49,699
around and talk to the

1557
00:52:49,699 --> 00:52:53,136
neighbors like we did and I'll

1558
00:52:53,136 --> 00:52:53,803
go into that in more detail in

1559
00:52:53,803 --> 00:52:57,600
a minute. Every one of the

1560
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:57,741
neighborhood of presidents and

1561
00:52:57,741 --> 00:53:00,741
people are surrounding an area

1562
00:53:02,846 --> 00:53:03,546
which will elderly. Begging

1563
00:53:03,546 --> 00:53:05,148
for gas to come in there. So

1564
00:53:05,148 --> 00:53:05,982
you don't have to try to

1565
00:53:05,982 --> 00:53:08,284
cross. He's showing all the

1566
00:53:08,284 --> 00:53:10,954
time, which is a really,

1567
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:12,422
really a dangerous place to

1568
00:53:12,422 --> 00:53:14,557
cross Youve got Keystone. A

1569
00:53:14,557 --> 00:53:17,557
new Hannah and Walker coming

1570
00:53:19,462 --> 00:53:20,931
in there. And each the board

1571
00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:23,931
zoning board would say, well,

1572
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,634
if you do this, then we'll try

1573
00:53:24,634 --> 00:53:27,504
to help you the next time

1574
00:53:27,504 --> 00:53:29,839
around. Well, the first thing

1575
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:30,473
was to build a fence week. We

1576
00:53:30,473 --> 00:53:34,730
build a fence all the way

1577
00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:37,247
around this property. Almost

1578
00:53:37,247 --> 00:53:37,947
1.1 acres and cleaned it all

1579
00:53:37,947 --> 00:53:40,617
up. Got all that. Got rid of

1580
00:53:40,617 --> 00:53:41,951
all the trash tore the

1581
00:53:41,951 --> 00:53:42,685
building down to get rid of

1582
00:53:42,685 --> 00:53:45,622
all the things that were going

1583
00:53:45,622 --> 00:53:46,356
on on the site. We came back

1584
00:53:46,356 --> 00:53:48,825
in and were denied again. This

1585
00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:49,826
time they said, want look at

1586
00:53:49,826 --> 00:53:52,826
putting a convenience store by

1587
00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:56,829
itself about and see if that

1588
00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:58,100
works. And sunny turned to me,

1589
00:53:58,100 --> 00:53:59,837
should the I've never seen

1590
00:53:59,837 --> 00:54:00,703
that work ever. But he said,

1591
00:54:00,703 --> 00:54:03,473
let me think about it. So we

1592
00:54:03,473 --> 00:54:04,207
told the board he didn't think

1593
00:54:04,207 --> 00:54:06,443
he wanted to do that. And then

1594
00:54:06,443 --> 00:54:07,770
a few months later, he decided

1595
00:54:07,770 --> 00:54:09,313
to go forward because we

1596
00:54:09,313 --> 00:54:12,913
really want to clean this area

1597
00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:13,650
and he did build a convenience

1598
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,500
store. You'll there's pictures

1599
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,356
in materials of what the

1600
00:54:19,356 --> 00:54:20,490
property looked like before

1601
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:21,124
and then after. So there is a

1602
00:54:21,124 --> 00:54:23,524
convenience store at that

1603
00:54:24,127 --> 00:54:26,430
site. The bad part about it is

1604
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:29,430
set. It will support. Could

1605
00:54:31,202 --> 00:54:33,771
mean the not profitable season

1606
00:54:33,771 --> 00:54:34,438
have to subsidizing the store.

1607
00:54:34,438 --> 00:54:38,638
She is. We just to keep it

1608
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,780
open. So then the next time we

1609
00:54:41,780 --> 00:54:44,215
went in was just this last

1610
00:54:44,215 --> 00:54:46,217
time in MARCH of 26 and we

1611
00:54:46,217 --> 00:54:46,917
done everything. They ask us

1612
00:54:46,917 --> 00:54:50,421
to do. We told them about the

1613
00:54:50,421 --> 00:54:51,555
fact that he was offering the

1614
00:54:51,555 --> 00:54:54,555
convenience store and we lost

1615
00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:58,260
again at all. 3 hearings.

1616
00:54:59,363 --> 00:54:59,997
COUNCILMAN Scary was there. He

1617
00:54:59,997 --> 00:55:03,670
explained to him a lot of

1618
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:04,835
things I'm saying to you told

1619
00:55:04,835 --> 00:55:07,835
him it extremely important for

1620
00:55:08,506 --> 00:55:10,841
him in his district to get

1621
00:55:10,841 --> 00:55:13,841
this so they could provide

1622
00:55:14,378 --> 00:55:15,790
gassed and make this work. The

1623
00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:17,479
other interesting thing that

1624
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,750
happened it the only remind us

1625
00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:19,383
traitors who showed up at any

1626
00:55:19,383 --> 00:55:22,983
of this is only board of

1627
00:55:23,421 --> 00:55:26,421
appeals. People just that live

1628
00:55:28,492 --> 00:55:29,226
around there all. Owners of 5

1629
00:55:29,226 --> 00:55:31,262
other gas stations that are in

1630
00:55:31,262 --> 00:55:32,263
the area. They're the only

1631
00:55:32,263 --> 00:55:35,863
ones that never showed up for

1632
00:55:36,368 --> 00:55:37,340
to Raymond Street. And the

1633
00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:38,169
reason they were showing up

1634
00:55:38,169 --> 00:55:39,236
because they didn't want to

1635
00:55:39,236 --> 00:55:41,636
kill competition because Sony

1636
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:45,439
has a reputation of running a

1637
00:55:46,578 --> 00:55:47,244
very good business. Very clean

1638
00:55:47,244 --> 00:55:49,481
buildings, cetera. And they

1639
00:55:49,481 --> 00:55:50,748
don't they didn't want it. And

1640
00:55:50,748 --> 00:55:51,550
they try to say, well, there's

1641
00:55:51,550 --> 00:55:52,149
already all these gas stations

1642
00:55:52,149 --> 00:55:55,149
and there's no need for

1643
00:55:55,886 --> 00:55:56,955
another one. Well, in the

1644
00:55:56,955 --> 00:55:59,291
meantime, these guys are

1645
00:55:59,291 --> 00:55:59,858
building gas stations all

1646
00:55:59,858 --> 00:56:02,258
around. South side of

1647
00:56:06,765 --> 00:56:07,966
Indianapolis. In 2, 2 families

1648
00:56:07,966 --> 00:56:09,334
basically. And if they're the

1649
00:56:09,334 --> 00:56:12,838
ones that right close to this

1650
00:56:12,838 --> 00:56:15,238
site, should Colin British

1651
00:56:16,575 --> 00:56:17,242
Petroleum. In the MAY also

1652
00:56:17,242 --> 00:56:18,443
supposedly have interest in

1653
00:56:18,443 --> 00:56:21,443
the liquor store. That's next

1654
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:24,349
door. In addition, they have

1655
00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:26,349
stations ship Brookville,

1656
00:56:26,785 --> 00:56:28,653
Road. 34 1 with Students

1657
00:56:28,653 --> 00:56:30,653
Street 54 60 east, 21st

1658
00:56:32,424 --> 00:56:33,910
Street. 57 96 with smaller

1659
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:36,910
street in 50 to 52 was Troy

1660
00:56:37,129 --> 00:56:37,829
Avenue. Obviously for them to

1661
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:39,865
say that there's no need for

1662
00:56:39,865 --> 00:56:41,865
additional gas stations.

1663
00:56:45,971 --> 00:56:48,971
That's just not correct. And

1664
00:56:49,207 --> 00:56:49,908
what what we see is that the

1665
00:56:49,908 --> 00:56:52,308
competitors down there aren't

1666
00:56:52,310 --> 00:56:54,146
really interested in a

1667
00:56:54,146 --> 00:56:55,380
district 19 or anything else

1668
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:56,681
down there. They're just there

1669
00:56:56,681 --> 00:56:59,418
to run the gas stations. They

1670
00:56:59,418 --> 00:57:02,220
have. They do nothing for the

1671
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:03,789
community. If you if if you

1672
00:57:03,789 --> 00:57:04,623
are seeing the stations are

1673
00:57:04,623 --> 00:57:07,623
run down, the quality of

1674
00:57:07,826 --> 00:57:10,826
things they serve. He's very

1675
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:12,697
meager whereas at convenience

1676
00:57:12,697 --> 00:57:15,697
store that they have fresh

1677
00:57:17,936 --> 00:57:19,405
meet. Milk and a lot of other

1678
00:57:19,405 --> 00:57:20,539
products that the people in

1679
00:57:20,539 --> 00:57:21,273
that area needing can't get to

1680
00:57:21,273 --> 00:57:23,673
without trying to cross

1681
00:57:29,215 --> 00:57:29,915
Keystone. We believe that to

1682
00:57:29,915 --> 00:57:32,915
the competition down or would

1683
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:35,154
be. Very good for the 19th

1684
00:57:35,154 --> 00:57:35,788
district because everybody's

1685
00:57:35,788 --> 00:57:39,388
going to have to up their

1686
00:57:40,693 --> 00:57:41,861
game. In charge. Ferry gas

1687
00:57:41,861 --> 00:57:45,461
prices. We're not gonna have a

1688
00:57:45,565 --> 00:57:47,567
monopoly. Basically. So the

1689
00:57:47,567 --> 00:57:48,167
next thing I want address is

1690
00:57:48,167 --> 00:57:50,567
exhibit 7 and then runs

1691
00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:53,700
traders. Filings. Sure they

1692
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,390
had 190 signatories on their

1693
00:57:58,244 --> 00:58:00,379
petition opposing on. Well,

1694
00:58:00,379 --> 00:58:01,581
we've went through those

1695
00:58:01,581 --> 00:58:03,649
signatures and found that many

1696
00:58:03,649 --> 00:58:04,417
of them had the same

1697
00:58:04,417 --> 00:58:06,817
handwriting, hardly any of

1698
00:58:08,121 --> 00:58:09,550
them had to address listed.

1699
00:58:09,550 --> 00:58:09,655
And we found that almost the

1700
00:58:09,655 --> 00:58:12,550
phone numbers that were

1701
00:58:12,725 --> 00:58:15,125
listed. Legitimate. They were

1702
00:58:16,195 --> 00:58:19,195
nonexistent. And then the ones

1703
00:58:19,699 --> 00:58:20,366
that we do talk to about 10 of

1704
00:58:20,366 --> 00:58:22,969
them said they didn't even

1705
00:58:22,969 --> 00:58:23,636
accept for 2 people. They

1706
00:58:23,636 --> 00:58:26,360
didn't even remember every

1707
00:58:27,730 --> 00:58:30,730
signing a petition and they

1708
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:31,712
were for the gas station for a

1709
00:58:31,712 --> 00:58:32,912
being sore one too soon. The

1710
00:58:32,912 --> 00:58:35,312
one we're talking about

1711
00:58:35,382 --> 00:58:38,382
getting gas so they could

1712
00:58:40,853 --> 00:58:41,554
continues stand business. In

1713
00:58:41,554 --> 00:58:45,910
fact, one lady that we talked

1714
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:47,294
to. Just like us. We're all

1715
00:58:47,294 --> 00:58:50,894
said she once against to be

1716
00:58:50,963 --> 00:58:51,664
built at a convenience store.

1717
00:58:51,664 --> 00:58:54,367
She lives closely by and him

1718
00:58:54,367 --> 00:58:55,100
to cross the street. It's such

1719
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:57,401
a busy intersection is

1720
00:58:57,870 --> 00:58:59,439
inconvenient and dangerous.

1721
00:58:59,439 --> 00:59:00,107
There's also a mental health

1722
00:59:00,107 --> 00:59:01,607
facility nearby. And those

1723
00:59:01,607 --> 00:59:02,275
folks have to do the same

1724
00:59:02,275 --> 00:59:05,275
thing. These are all people

1725
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:06,779
that live east of Keystone.

1726
00:59:06,779 --> 00:59:09,116
And that's where there's a big

1727
00:59:09,116 --> 00:59:09,882
residential area back there.

1728
00:59:09,882 --> 00:59:10,551
She's worried about the

1729
00:59:10,551 --> 00:59:13,551
patients who would have to

1730
00:59:14,154 --> 00:59:14,855
cross the street. She can walk

1731
00:59:14,855 --> 00:59:15,455
to going to be new storm back

1732
00:59:15,455 --> 00:59:17,855
to the routes within 10

1733
00:59:19,526 --> 00:59:20,227
minutes. She likes How it all

1734
00:59:20,227 --> 00:59:22,428
in one stop shop and makes it

1735
00:59:22,428 --> 00:59:23,630
very convenient or well.

1736
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:23,664
That's a person they had

1737
00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,640
listed that signed the

1738
00:59:27,167 --> 00:59:29,567
petition against. Putting gas

1739
00:59:29,803 --> 00:59:32,439
that this location. And we

1740
00:59:32,439 --> 00:59:34,908
found that with a number of

1741
00:59:34,908 --> 00:59:35,610
people think 42.6, 3% had

1742
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:38,610
phone numbers that don't even

1743
00:59:41,882 --> 00:59:42,750
work. I would say that that

1744
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:43,450
the those petitioners

1745
00:59:43,450 --> 00:59:45,850
shouldn't have any relevance

1746
00:59:51,859 --> 00:59:52,459
at all today. In or even upset

1747
00:59:52,459 --> 00:59:53,660
that they were, it was

1748
00:59:53,660 --> 00:59:55,763
representations that they had

1749
00:59:55,763 --> 00:59:56,663
signed it. We on the other

1750
00:59:56,663 --> 00:59:58,265
hand, got 108 signatures all

1751
00:59:58,265 --> 01:00:01,265
from the neighbors around the

1752
01:00:03,904 --> 01:00:05,305
neighborhood. We filed those

1753
01:00:05,305 --> 01:00:07,824
in all of them have the names,

1754
01:00:07,824 --> 01:00:10,224
addresses, phone numbers in

1755
01:00:10,310 --> 01:00:11,110
all of them were very

1756
01:00:11,110 --> 01:00:13,130
supportive and several. Those

1757
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:13,680
were the PRESIDENT's of

1758
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,680
neighborhood associations.

1759
01:00:19,153 --> 01:00:22,753
Specter. Well, next, we saw a

1760
01:00:23,891 --> 01:00:26,891
letter from McKenna which MR.

1761
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:28,862
Burton's has sent every time,

1762
01:00:28,862 --> 01:00:31,832
we have never had any contact

1763
01:00:31,832 --> 01:00:33,134
with contractor, the

1764
01:00:33,134 --> 01:00:35,134
neighborhood associations of

1765
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:37,205
contacted her. There was no

1766
01:00:37,205 --> 01:00:37,905
meeting, nothing. She

1767
01:00:37,905 --> 01:00:40,541
basically just sent us letter

1768
01:00:40,541 --> 01:00:43,541
she sent to last 3 times

1769
01:00:43,544 --> 01:00:44,446
because we want to explain to

1770
01:00:44,446 --> 01:00:45,680
her that whole situation and

1771
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,983
change your the benefit of the

1772
01:00:48,983 --> 01:00:51,453
doubt from 2022. And we also

1773
01:00:51,453 --> 01:00:52,187
had a traffic study. But we

1774
01:00:52,187 --> 01:00:55,757
want to assure that shows that

1775
01:00:55,757 --> 01:00:56,458
there's no. Increase in

1776
01:00:56,458 --> 01:00:58,660
traffic traffic that's going

1777
01:00:58,660 --> 01:00:59,360
to be done or no question

1778
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,995
about it. So wasn't going to

1779
01:01:00,995 --> 01:01:04,595
add any more traffic to the

1780
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,840
area. So I I would close with

1781
01:01:17,113 --> 01:01:19,415
Tony of that. You know, the

1782
01:01:19,415 --> 01:01:21,983
city have the plan. And in

1783
01:01:21,983 --> 01:01:22,684
that point municipal plan and

1784
01:01:22,684 --> 01:01:25,720
they didn't want any more gas

1785
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,287
stations. Well. There's many

1786
01:01:26,287 --> 01:01:28,256
gas stations going up

1787
01:01:28,256 --> 01:01:30,656
everywhere. Law, mean, you

1788
01:01:30,992 --> 01:01:32,927
name going up every place. And

1789
01:01:32,927 --> 01:01:35,230
here's a place that can really

1790
01:01:35,230 --> 01:01:35,964
use it. And it helps develop a

1791
01:01:35,964 --> 01:01:38,964
piece of property that set

1792
01:01:40,169 --> 01:01:40,802
almost 10 years. And all they

1793
01:01:40,802 --> 01:01:43,406
want to do is be able to

1794
01:01:43,406 --> 01:01:45,574
compete with. The other with

1795
01:01:45,574 --> 01:01:47,208
the other stores. And that's

1796
01:01:47,208 --> 01:01:49,608
you know, that's somebody

1797
01:01:51,179 --> 01:01:51,814
said, congratulations, sir.

1798
01:01:51,814 --> 01:01:52,548
United States for 250

1799
01:01:52,548 --> 01:01:54,948
th-anniversary and that's what

1800
01:01:55,317 --> 01:01:55,985
we're built on capitalism. In

1801
01:01:55,985 --> 01:01:58,985
the ability to compete and

1802
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,492
compete fairly. We believe

1803
01:02:11,267 --> 01:02:12,100
that this is a very positive.

1804
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:14,970
To bring the equal competition

1805
01:02:14,970 --> 01:02:17,970
and they'll help cancel the

1806
01:02:18,574 --> 01:02:20,574
district. 19. COUNCILMAN, the

1807
01:02:21,911 --> 01:02:23,946
scare is already the stab wish

1808
01:02:23,946 --> 01:02:24,613
that it been the owner many

1809
01:02:24,613 --> 01:02:25,448
times to see all the things

1810
01:02:25,448 --> 01:02:28,448
I'm talking about. They have

1811
01:02:32,188 --> 01:02:33,389
taken place. Thank you, MR.

1812
01:02:33,389 --> 01:02:35,225
Khan, I will now call on the

1813
01:02:35,225 --> 01:02:35,891
movement's traitors to state

1814
01:02:35,891 --> 01:02:36,659
their case again. Remember

1815
01:02:36,659 --> 01:02:38,561
that you have 20 minutes total

1816
01:02:38,561 --> 01:02:40,561
for your presentation,

1817
01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:42,364
regardless of how many

1818
01:02:42,364 --> 01:02:43,499
speakers participate, you MAY

1819
01:02:43,499 --> 01:02:44,900
choose not to use the full 20

1820
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:45,768
minutes or save a portion for

1821
01:02:45,768 --> 01:02:49,739
it. A portion of it for your

1822
01:02:49,739 --> 01:02:51,273
rebuttal. Again, our clerk

1823
01:02:51,273 --> 01:02:52,700
will keep track of the time

1824
01:02:52,700 --> 01:02:56,207
and it, but it will sound when

1825
01:03:01,317 --> 01:03:04,917
your time is up. Mind the

1826
01:03:14,531 --> 01:03:16,666
clock. Just a second. Well, we

1827
01:03:16,666 --> 01:03:19,603
ready? Okay. Very good. Thank

1828
01:03:19,603 --> 01:03:20,270
Got my name is Greg Zoo

1829
01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:23,140
Members of the City County

1830
01:03:23,140 --> 01:03:24,941
Council. A pleasure to be here

1831
01:03:24,941 --> 01:03:26,777
and to talk to about this

1832
01:03:26,777 --> 01:03:29,777
case. I'm an attorney with

1833
01:03:29,980 --> 01:03:30,814
offices of back at 1, 0, 4, 7,

1834
01:03:30,814 --> 01:03:31,448
5, Cross Pointe Boulevard.

1835
01:03:31,448 --> 01:03:33,417
Indianapolis, Indiana. I

1836
01:03:33,417 --> 01:03:35,817
represent the Keystone Food

1837
01:03:37,421 --> 01:03:37,954
Mart which operates a bp

1838
01:03:37,954 --> 01:03:38,655
fueling station and

1839
01:03:38,655 --> 01:03:41,550
convenience store located at

1840
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:43,260
39 50 South Keystone, which is

1841
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:45,295
located catty corner from the

1842
01:03:45,295 --> 01:03:47,695
subject property. My client

1843
01:03:48,198 --> 01:03:49,166
has been in the operation of

1844
01:03:49,166 --> 01:03:52,166
its since the subject property

1845
01:03:52,269 --> 01:03:55,269
currently owned On llc was

1846
01:03:57,340 --> 01:04:00,340
rezoned in 2017. C 4 with a

1847
01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:03,610
lot of commitments saying what

1848
01:04:03,613 --> 01:04:07,213
uses could not be made. Before

1849
01:04:07,484 --> 01:04:08,218
I get into the specifics of

1850
01:04:08,218 --> 01:04:09,120
say there are 2 sides to every

1851
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,854
pancake, no matter how thin it

1852
01:04:09,854 --> 01:04:10,587
is. And I'm going to give you

1853
01:04:10,587 --> 01:04:14,787
the other side in this case. I

1854
01:04:16,828 --> 01:04:17,861
hope. Prior to 2016, the

1855
01:04:17,861 --> 01:04:20,861
subject property was zone c 3

1856
01:04:21,265 --> 01:04:21,933
and in 2016, a petition was

1857
01:04:21,933 --> 01:04:25,236
filed to rezone a to c 4 by

1858
01:04:25,236 --> 01:04:26,437
the then property owner. The

1859
01:04:26,437 --> 01:04:29,207
rezoning was granted. But with

1860
01:04:29,207 --> 01:04:29,907
a list of commitments that

1861
01:04:29,907 --> 01:04:30,775
prohibit a variety of certain

1862
01:04:30,775 --> 01:04:34,110
uses a whole laundry list of

1863
01:04:34,110 --> 01:04:36,547
things. My client. At that

1864
01:04:36,547 --> 01:04:40,147
time long on came along in

1865
01:04:40,618 --> 01:04:42,353
this matter. My client was one

1866
01:04:42,353 --> 01:04:43,955
of the entities that was

1867
01:04:43,955 --> 01:04:46,324
involved in those matters in

1868
01:04:46,324 --> 01:04:47,258
2016 before the Metropolitan

1869
01:04:47,258 --> 01:04:48,526
Development Commission. All of

1870
01:04:48,526 --> 01:04:50,526
these commitments were

1871
01:04:52,263 --> 01:04:53,331
generated and one of the

1872
01:04:53,331 --> 01:04:55,166
commitments stated that the

1873
01:04:55,166 --> 01:04:56,467
following uses as defined by

1874
01:04:56,467 --> 01:04:57,101
zoning ordinance for Marion

1875
01:04:57,101 --> 01:04:59,501
County, Indiana shall be

1876
01:04:59,837 --> 01:05:01,839
prohibited as permitted uses.

1877
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:04,239
One was automobile fueling

1878
01:05:04,809 --> 01:05:07,110
station. This property was not

1879
01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:07,912
zoned for an automobile

1880
01:05:07,912 --> 01:05:09,881
fueling station. It was

1881
01:05:09,881 --> 01:05:10,581
rezoned to see for with the

1882
01:05:10,581 --> 01:05:11,783
commitment that it would not

1883
01:05:11,783 --> 01:05:13,651
be used for an automobile

1884
01:05:13,651 --> 01:05:15,887
feeling station on that basis.

1885
01:05:15,887 --> 01:05:16,822
My client did not remind

1886
01:05:16,822 --> 01:05:19,222
straight there was settlement

1887
01:05:19,357 --> 01:05:21,357
back in 2016, those

1888
01:05:22,628 --> 01:05:24,562
commitments recorded in 2070.

1889
01:05:24,562 --> 01:05:25,363
So my point was there long

1890
01:05:25,363 --> 01:05:25,931
before that was involved what

1891
01:05:25,931 --> 01:05:28,331
was happening at this

1892
01:05:32,237 --> 01:05:32,971
location. The this is our 7th

1893
01:05:32,971 --> 01:05:35,371
hearing on this matter. 7

1894
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:39,411
Terry. We had a hearing in

1895
01:05:39,411 --> 01:05:42,411
2002 in front of the hearing

1896
01:05:42,514 --> 01:05:43,515
examiner to modify the

1897
01:05:43,515 --> 01:05:44,650
commitments, takeout. They

1898
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:45,250
want to do it they wanted to

1899
01:05:45,250 --> 01:05:45,951
have a few links. This

1900
01:05:45,951 --> 01:05:48,351
prohibition against a fueling

1901
01:05:49,155 --> 01:05:52,559
station taken out. We did that

1902
01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:53,258
and they they lost that the

1903
01:05:53,258 --> 01:05:55,394
hearing and you have this in

1904
01:05:55,394 --> 01:05:57,129
your path that the hearing

1905
01:05:57,129 --> 01:06:00,129
examiner Judy Works held duty

1906
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,668
awards hall had a substantial

1907
01:06:02,668 --> 01:06:03,469
hearing. There on straight

1908
01:06:03,469 --> 01:06:04,737
ers. The record. We had all

1909
01:06:04,737 --> 01:06:06,472
kinds of signatures from

1910
01:06:06,472 --> 01:06:07,973
people that didn't want hurt

1911
01:06:07,973 --> 01:06:08,774
MISTER, MR. Khan, talk about

1912
01:06:08,774 --> 01:06:11,610
some of those signatures in

1913
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:13,746
the most recent hearing. They

1914
01:06:13,746 --> 01:06:15,414
had no support in that hearing

1915
01:06:15,414 --> 01:06:16,181
from anybody that appear

1916
01:06:16,181 --> 01:06:19,181
before Judy for the hearing

1917
01:06:20,853 --> 01:06:22,522
examiner. I think that

1918
01:06:22,522 --> 01:06:23,255
representative or of

1919
01:06:23,255 --> 01:06:25,655
commission COUNCILMAN Else get

1920
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:27,793
it right here. Council mass

1921
01:06:27,793 --> 01:06:30,796
Kerry had been indicated to be

1922
01:06:30,796 --> 01:06:33,900
in favor of this along council

1923
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:36,300
COUNCILMAN Bill. But in 2002,

1924
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,838
the hearing examiner deny,

1925
01:06:38,838 --> 01:06:40,707
made a negative

1926
01:06:40,707 --> 01:06:41,408
recommendation. It went in

1927
01:06:41,408 --> 01:06:42,142
front of a full Metropolitan

1928
01:06:42,142 --> 01:06:44,142
Development Commission in 2002

1929
01:06:46,246 --> 01:06:47,647
to remove this staff was

1930
01:06:47,647 --> 01:06:48,948
against it. Staff said staff

1931
01:06:48,948 --> 01:06:51,885
said that this is not a proper

1932
01:06:51,885 --> 01:06:53,253
use at this location. You have

1933
01:06:53,253 --> 01:06:55,422
I hope a copy of the staff

1934
01:06:55,422 --> 01:06:57,157
report which is substantial.

1935
01:06:57,157 --> 01:07:00,157
It's basically been the same

1936
01:07:04,198 --> 01:07:05,640
report 3 times in 2022 2024

1937
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640
2026 saying that this is not

1938
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,638
an appropriate use McCAnn, a

1939
01:07:11,638 --> 01:07:14,380
which counsels critical love.

1940
01:07:16,643 --> 01:07:17,343
Sounds to me the the Marion

1941
01:07:17,343 --> 01:07:19,313
County Alliance of

1942
01:07:19,313 --> 01:07:21,313
Neighborhood Associations

1943
01:07:22,148 --> 01:07:25,148
saying Iit's PRESIDENT Wrote a

1944
01:07:25,251 --> 01:07:27,200
letter and 2022 saying that

1945
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,223
that zoning didn't provide

1946
01:07:29,223 --> 01:07:30,230
Fort. The comp plan didn't

1947
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:32,125
provide for, you know, the

1948
01:07:32,125 --> 01:07:34,327
comp plan's not some ancient

1949
01:07:34,327 --> 01:07:34,994
document that was done in

1950
01:07:34,994 --> 01:07:35,629
2016, 2017 approved by the

1951
01:07:35,629 --> 01:07:37,363
Metropolitan Development

1952
01:07:37,363 --> 01:07:39,332
Commission. And and approved

1953
01:07:39,332 --> 01:07:41,168
by the council. What is the

1954
01:07:41,168 --> 01:07:44,768
comp plan say about this? It's

1955
01:07:44,904 --> 01:07:45,639
not supposed to be c for you

1956
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:48,676
says and I'll get into that

1957
01:07:48,676 --> 01:07:49,810
typology as to what's

1958
01:07:49,810 --> 01:07:51,144
proposed. So Mike Hanna wrote

1959
01:07:51,144 --> 01:07:55,316
a letter and I I guess I

1960
01:07:55,316 --> 01:07:58,119
thought that McKenna has it's

1961
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:00,621
as as the whole Marion County

1962
01:08:00,621 --> 01:08:02,289
Alliance, the the umbrella

1963
01:08:02,289 --> 01:08:04,689
Group had some understanding

1964
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,294
of what could and should be

1965
01:08:07,294 --> 01:08:08,195
billed. And staff rode a

1966
01:08:08,195 --> 01:08:10,931
report that said that the

1967
01:08:10,931 --> 01:08:11,499
property should not be rezone.

1968
01:08:11,499 --> 01:08:14,468
Let me go back to the

1969
01:08:14,468 --> 01:08:17,468
purchase. You know, this was

1970
01:08:17,538 --> 01:08:20,641
vacant and it was in bad

1971
01:08:20,641 --> 01:08:23,641
shape. In 19. I'm sorry in

1972
01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:26,444
2022. On llc bought the

1973
01:08:26,714 --> 01:08:28,714
subject property for $199,999.

1974
01:08:28,783 --> 01:08:29,583
You should have the sales

1975
01:08:29,583 --> 01:08:31,180
report. Whether you've looked

1976
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:31,685
at or not. I don't that

1977
01:08:31,685 --> 01:08:35,285
there's a dispute it was in

1978
01:08:35,589 --> 01:08:38,920
bad shape it was purchased.

1979
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:39,527
Had an assessed value at the

1980
01:08:39,527 --> 01:08:41,262
time of 188,500 for the

1981
01:08:41,262 --> 01:08:43,662
disclosure document that was

1982
01:08:44,933 --> 01:08:48,533
signed by. So wind are saying

1983
01:08:51,372 --> 01:08:52,606
for on llc and the address

1984
01:08:52,606 --> 01:08:55,606
given for that entity. Amadeo

1985
01:08:56,770 --> 01:08:57,879
Elsie was 1, 3, 1, ditch road

1986
01:08:57,879 --> 01:08:58,546
Carmel, Indiana, which turns

1987
01:08:58,546 --> 01:09:00,348
out to be the residents of

1988
01:09:00,348 --> 01:09:03,948
South Wind are saying and his

1989
01:09:04,453 --> 01:09:06,853
wife, cower, which Carmel

1990
01:09:07,550 --> 01:09:08,890
shown that be 3.9 one acres

1991
01:09:08,890 --> 01:09:09,724
with an assessed value of 3.6,

1992
01:09:09,724 --> 01:09:11,560
5 million dollars. They did.

1993
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,761
Well, the U.S. Couple did

1994
01:09:12,761 --> 01:09:15,630
well. Lot of gas stations

1995
01:09:15,630 --> 01:09:16,798
through a lot of places. They

1996
01:09:16,798 --> 01:09:17,799
bought this property. This

1997
01:09:17,799 --> 01:09:20,199
property was purchased. This

1998
01:09:20,403 --> 01:09:22,803
property was purchased with

1999
01:09:23,710 --> 01:09:24,606
knowledge that there was a

2000
01:09:24,606 --> 01:09:27,142
commitment and this puts the

2001
01:09:27,142 --> 01:09:29,411
first petition 2022 was filed

2002
01:09:29,411 --> 01:09:30,579
4 months after it was

2003
01:09:30,579 --> 01:09:32,579
purchased for $199,000. Hardly

2004
01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:36,614
ink was dry on the sales

2005
01:09:37,152 --> 01:09:38,153
disclosure document. The

2006
01:09:38,153 --> 01:09:38,987
hearing examiner at one of the

2007
01:09:38,987 --> 01:09:39,721
hearings. I've been at all 6

2008
01:09:39,721 --> 01:09:40,922
hearings, the hearing examiner

2009
01:09:40,922 --> 01:09:44,522
at one of the hearings asked.

2010
01:09:45,127 --> 01:09:47,129
MR. Wind are saying were you

2011
01:09:47,129 --> 01:09:47,997
aware that there was this

2012
01:09:47,997 --> 01:09:49,164
commitment on the property

2013
01:09:49,164 --> 01:09:49,865
when you bought when I'm on

2014
01:09:49,865 --> 01:09:53,465
board? The answer was yes. So

2015
01:09:53,568 --> 01:09:54,703
we have a savvy businessman

2016
01:09:54,703 --> 01:09:56,705
who bought this property

2017
01:09:56,705 --> 01:09:57,407
knowing that that commitment

2018
01:09:57,407 --> 01:09:58,106
was there. I've been at this

2019
01:09:58,106 --> 01:10:01,106
for 49 years. It'll be 50 in

2020
01:10:02,411 --> 01:10:04,380
OCTOBER. People don't buy

2021
01:10:04,380 --> 01:10:05,114
commercial property with if

2022
01:10:05,114 --> 01:10:06,982
they have if they have certain

2023
01:10:06,982 --> 01:10:09,982
contingencies that have to be

2024
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,254
met and this wasn't that

2025
01:10:12,254 --> 01:10:13,689
MISTER, MR. I'll I'll see. But

2026
01:10:13,689 --> 01:10:14,457
MR. Winter sing bought it

2027
01:10:14,457 --> 01:10:15,191
knowing that this commitment

2028
01:10:15,191 --> 01:10:18,191
was there and then immediately

2029
01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:20,663
came to the hearing examiner

2030
01:10:20,663 --> 01:10:23,663
asked for a group Reese

2031
01:10:26,335 --> 01:10:27,336
rescission of that We then

2032
01:10:27,336 --> 01:10:30,336
we've after after the hearing

2033
01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:33,709
examiner declined to make a

2034
01:10:33,709 --> 01:10:34,510
positive recommendation. We

2035
01:10:34,510 --> 01:10:36,412
had a full hearing in front of

2036
01:10:36,412 --> 01:10:38,470
the Metropolitan Development

2037
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:40,160
Commission and the

2038
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:40,750
Metropolitan Development

2039
01:10:40,750 --> 01:10:42,418
Commission in 2022. Did not

2040
01:10:42,418 --> 01:10:43,386
give relief from the from the

2041
01:10:43,386 --> 01:10:45,421
commitment that there should

2042
01:10:45,421 --> 01:10:46,890
not be a gas station on here

2043
01:10:46,890 --> 01:10:49,689
on the basis that it wasn't

2044
01:10:49,693 --> 01:10:50,927
zone for it. The comprehensive

2045
01:10:50,927 --> 01:10:52,495
plan certainly didn't call for

2046
01:10:52,495 --> 01:10:53,162
As a matter of fact, the

2047
01:10:53,162 --> 01:10:55,562
comprehensive plan, which I

2048
01:10:55,898 --> 01:10:57,266
expect you all are familiar

2049
01:10:57,266 --> 01:10:59,666
with, provides that there's

2050
01:10:59,836 --> 01:11:03,272
not even to be a auto fueling

2051
01:11:03,272 --> 01:11:05,976
facility in. This is in the in

2052
01:11:05,976 --> 01:11:06,643
in the comprehensive plan for

2053
01:11:06,643 --> 01:11:08,912
this property. So there are

2054
01:11:08,912 --> 01:11:11,470
way outside the comp plan. Can

2055
01:11:11,470 --> 01:11:12,282
I see going to can I see that

2056
01:11:12,282 --> 01:11:14,985
map? We can you put that up

2057
01:11:14,985 --> 01:11:15,586
there? I don't know whether

2058
01:11:15,586 --> 01:11:18,355
you love seeing all the

2059
01:11:18,355 --> 01:11:21,125
exhibits or not. Are several

2060
01:11:21,125 --> 01:11:22,625
gas stations in this area. As

2061
01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:26,950
a matter of fact, there are 5

2062
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:26,930
there were 5 at the time that

2063
01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:29,930
this there's there's You can

2064
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,335
see on the map. Can you? Turn

2065
01:11:31,335 --> 01:11:33,270
it so that you can show all

2066
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:34,838
the different gas stations

2067
01:11:34,838 --> 01:11:35,438
between between the

2068
01:11:35,438 --> 01:11:37,438
interchange at Keystone

2069
01:11:41,445 --> 01:11:42,613
Avenue. Can you turn it a

2070
01:11:42,613 --> 01:11:44,581
little bit between the

2071
01:11:44,581 --> 01:11:45,716
interchange at Keystone Avenue

2072
01:11:45,716 --> 01:11:46,850
and this property of 4,000

2073
01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:49,119
South Keystone, there are 5

2074
01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:52,719
gas stations, one of which is

2075
01:11:54,792 --> 01:11:58,662
owned by g GOD llc or thank a

2076
01:11:58,662 --> 01:11:59,363
principle of which is MR. Wind

2077
01:11:59,363 --> 01:12:01,465
are saying and for Paul cars,

2078
01:12:01,465 --> 01:12:02,132
the resident agent that 1, 3,

2079
01:12:02,132 --> 01:12:04,532
1, Carmel, Indiana, one of

2080
01:12:04,935 --> 01:12:06,336
their other gas stations. So

2081
01:12:06,336 --> 01:12:07,538
they've got 1, 7, tenths of a

2082
01:12:07,538 --> 01:12:10,207
mile within 7 tenths of a mile

2083
01:12:10,207 --> 01:12:12,810
of this station. There are 5

2084
01:12:12,810 --> 01:12:15,810
other of this location. There

2085
01:12:16,915 --> 01:12:17,614
are 5 other gas stations and

2086
01:12:17,614 --> 01:12:21,652
there and I might add that in

2087
01:12:21,652 --> 01:12:22,853
2026. You rezoned after a

2088
01:12:22,853 --> 01:12:23,488
hearing in front of the

2089
01:12:23,488 --> 01:12:25,488
Metropolitan Development

2090
01:12:26,858 --> 01:12:28,858
Commission, another parcel

2091
01:12:30,961 --> 01:12:32,797
that is that is in 0, 7 acre

2092
01:12:32,797 --> 01:12:34,899
stretch 2 c 4, which would

2093
01:12:34,899 --> 01:12:36,434
allow for yet another gas

2094
01:12:36,434 --> 01:12:37,000
station and plans were even 5

2095
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:37,669
with the Metropolitan

2096
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:39,669
Development Commission for

2097
01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:42,730
that other So there are lots

2098
01:12:42,730 --> 01:12:46,273
of gas stations in here. So so

2099
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:51,150
we don't have we have this

2100
01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:52,584
attempt to to take up the

2101
01:12:52,584 --> 01:12:53,318
modification the 2022, we come

2102
01:12:53,318 --> 01:12:57,518
back and try the same thing in

2103
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:01,490
2024. Same thing. In 2023. The

2104
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:03,895
financial report of

2105
01:13:03,895 --> 01:13:06,295
representative of Scary and

2106
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:09,467
COUNCILMAN Dealt show $1100

2107
01:13:09,467 --> 01:13:11,467
contribution to their

2108
01:13:11,569 --> 01:13:13,338
campaigns or their their funds

2109
01:13:13,338 --> 01:13:16,107
from South Wind are saying

2110
01:13:16,107 --> 01:13:18,176
$1100 each and then in 2024,

2111
01:13:18,176 --> 01:13:19,511
when we come back for the

2112
01:13:19,511 --> 01:13:21,946
second time we have we have a

2113
01:13:21,946 --> 01:13:23,748
letter of support that

2114
01:13:23,748 --> 01:13:26,148
COUNCILMAN Matt Scary. He's

2115
01:13:26,217 --> 01:13:29,217
written saying they ought to

2116
01:13:30,688 --> 01:13:31,390
get gas by that time in 2024,

2117
01:13:31,390 --> 01:13:32,724
there is a convenience store

2118
01:13:32,724 --> 01:13:33,625
bill and it is nice. I can

2119
01:13:33,625 --> 01:13:34,326
tell you it is nice. Brick

2120
01:13:34,326 --> 01:13:36,726
looks good. Counsel's told

2121
01:13:37,195 --> 01:13:39,864
about the pictures. It looks

2122
01:13:39,864 --> 01:13:41,333
really good. No gas station,

2123
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:42,200
south wind or sing comes to

2124
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,769
the hearing in 2024. Before

2125
01:13:43,769 --> 01:13:44,570
the Metropolitan Development

2126
01:13:44,570 --> 01:13:47,506
Commission. And this asked by

2127
01:13:47,506 --> 01:13:48,473
one of the commissioners, if

2128
01:13:48,473 --> 01:13:50,843
you don't get this reason, if

2129
01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:51,744
you don't get this relief from

2130
01:13:51,744 --> 01:13:52,445
this commitment for hitting

2131
01:13:52,445 --> 01:13:56,450
you from selling gas, are you

2132
01:13:56,115 --> 01:13:56,782
going to open it? And he says

2133
01:13:56,782 --> 01:13:57,883
I'm not going open that. We

2134
01:13:57,883 --> 01:13:58,784
can play the tape. If you need

2135
01:13:58,784 --> 01:14:00,553
to lights part of the pack

2136
01:14:00,553 --> 01:14:02,288
that that we that we submitted

2137
01:14:02,288 --> 01:14:03,220
to you. And if you want to see

2138
01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:05,825
the tape, we can play with us.

2139
01:14:05,825 --> 01:14:07,126
I'm not going open it. He

2140
01:14:07,126 --> 01:14:07,793
loses in front of the mdc. The

2141
01:14:07,793 --> 01:14:11,300
mdc says we're not going to

2142
01:14:11,300 --> 01:14:11,697
give you relief. Staff says

2143
01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:12,398
you shouldn't have relief.

2144
01:14:12,398 --> 01:14:14,798
It's not suitable. There's

2145
01:14:15,134 --> 01:14:15,868
adjacent residential here. It

2146
01:14:15,868 --> 01:14:18,671
doesn't fit with a gas

2147
01:14:18,671 --> 01:14:21,600
station. That's a high

2148
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,274
intensity. Use. They lose that

2149
01:14:22,274 --> 01:14:22,943
they failed to get positive

2150
01:14:22,943 --> 01:14:25,411
result in that case. Now we

2151
01:14:25,411 --> 01:14:28,247
come back in 2024. And here we

2152
01:14:28,247 --> 01:14:29,615
are again. And now we have

2153
01:14:29,615 --> 01:14:31,160
because they couldn't take

2154
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:31,717
that appealed to you or to

2155
01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:33,586
anybody else because

2156
01:14:33,586 --> 01:14:35,986
modification of the commitment

2157
01:14:36,756 --> 01:14:38,290
is not appealable. So they

2158
01:14:38,290 --> 01:14:38,958
come back and file acs

2159
01:14:38,958 --> 01:14:41,527
rezoning. They want to have

2160
01:14:41,527 --> 01:14:43,927
commercial special use and

2161
01:14:43,929 --> 01:14:44,630
guess what the special uses on

2162
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:47,630
this property, a gas station.

2163
01:14:48,101 --> 01:14:49,802
So now we're back for the 5th

2164
01:14:49,802 --> 01:14:51,238
time on a gas station in for a

2165
01:14:51,238 --> 01:14:53,239
the Metropolitan front of the

2166
01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:55,108
hearing examiner who once

2167
01:14:55,108 --> 01:14:55,808
again rules that there

2168
01:14:55,808 --> 01:14:57,878
shouldn't be a gas station at

2169
01:14:57,878 --> 01:14:59,878
this location. Recommended

2170
01:15:00,748 --> 01:15:02,715
recommendation of denial. And

2171
01:15:02,715 --> 01:15:03,450
then we go to the Metropolitan

2172
01:15:03,450 --> 01:15:05,450
Development Commission earlier

2173
01:15:07,554 --> 01:15:10,554
this year. Councils there. I'm

2174
01:15:11,124 --> 01:15:11,792
there. The parties are there.

2175
01:15:11,792 --> 01:15:13,460
And again, the Metropolitan

2176
01:15:13,460 --> 01:15:14,394
Development Commission rules

2177
01:15:14,394 --> 01:15:16,963
that the property should not

2178
01:15:16,963 --> 01:15:17,864
be re-zoned for a gas station.

2179
01:15:17,864 --> 01:15:19,933
Every one of these times it

2180
01:15:19,933 --> 01:15:21,902
every one of these cases, the

2181
01:15:21,902 --> 01:15:23,703
staff has written a report

2182
01:15:23,703 --> 01:15:26,703
that is basically the same

2183
01:15:27,407 --> 01:15:28,108
saying this doesn't belong

2184
01:15:28,108 --> 01:15:29,776
here. The comprehensive plan

2185
01:15:29,776 --> 01:15:32,176
doesn't contemplate it. The

2186
01:15:32,579 --> 01:15:34,147
zoning doesn't contemplate it.

2187
01:15:34,147 --> 01:15:35,482
A gas station doesn't belong

2188
01:15:35,482 --> 01:15:36,116
at this location. We don't

2189
01:15:36,116 --> 01:15:37,685
need another gas station.

2190
01:15:37,685 --> 01:15:39,986
That's what mechanics. That's

2191
01:15:39,986 --> 01:15:42,986
what my client negotiated for

2192
01:15:44,910 --> 01:15:45,859
way. Back in 2022 in this map,

2193
01:15:45,859 --> 01:15:46,593
you'll see that there are 5

2194
01:15:46,593 --> 01:15:47,227
other gas stations. We've just

2195
01:15:47,227 --> 01:15:49,563
had a rezoning that would

2196
01:15:49,563 --> 01:15:50,197
allow for a 6th and now they

2197
01:15:50,197 --> 01:15:52,999
want to have another gas

2198
01:15:52,999 --> 01:15:54,434
station. Let me say. When the

2199
01:15:54,434 --> 01:15:56,803
when I'm on bought this

2200
01:15:56,803 --> 01:16:00,373
property, a man who headed up

2201
01:16:00,373 --> 01:16:01,750
by MR. Supporters say. And the

2202
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:04,750
original hearing, he said he

2203
01:16:07,682 --> 01:16:08,382
said. Want to get this wrong.

2204
01:16:08,382 --> 01:16:10,885
Online. Llc owns and operates

2205
01:16:10,885 --> 01:16:11,752
a total of 40 filling stations

2206
01:16:11,752 --> 01:16:13,287
and convenience stores

2207
01:16:13,287 --> 01:16:13,988
Indianapolis Metro area. No

2208
01:16:13,988 --> 01:16:15,423
complaints or violations from

2209
01:16:15,423 --> 01:16:17,157
local, state or federal

2210
01:16:17,157 --> 01:16:17,825
government has been in

2211
01:16:17,825 --> 01:16:18,926
business many years. Well,

2212
01:16:18,926 --> 01:16:20,527
that's true. He's been very

2213
01:16:20,527 --> 01:16:21,229
successful. I don't know about

2214
01:16:21,229 --> 01:16:23,164
the complaint because in this

2215
01:16:23,164 --> 01:16:26,300
case we've got a lot of

2216
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:26,968
complaints. We've got zoning

2217
01:16:26,968 --> 01:16:29,368
violations since this since

2218
01:16:29,904 --> 01:16:31,439
convenience store opened in

2219
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,374
2024, we've got we've got

2220
01:16:32,374 --> 01:16:34,774
violations from the Marion

2221
01:16:35,176 --> 01:16:36,544
County Health Department,

2222
01:16:36,544 --> 01:16:37,712
which you have in the packet

2223
01:16:37,712 --> 01:16:38,379
that was given you and I can

2224
01:16:38,379 --> 01:16:41,115
go through the specifics of

2225
01:16:41,115 --> 01:16:42,550
them. If you want. Time is

2226
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:44,719
limited here. And so I'm not

2227
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:45,486
sure there's been such good

2228
01:16:45,486 --> 01:16:48,486
vetting of the operations that

2229
01:16:50,758 --> 01:16:52,727
are conducted by on llc or

2230
01:16:52,727 --> 01:16:55,596
other or related entities. Him

2231
01:16:55,596 --> 01:16:56,731
to say that there haven't been

2232
01:16:56,731 --> 01:16:58,132
violations at this location

2233
01:16:58,132 --> 01:16:59,768
since it opened in 2024. Is

2234
01:16:59,768 --> 01:17:01,569
not right. There have been

2235
01:17:01,569 --> 01:17:02,203
violations and it's in your

2236
01:17:02,203 --> 01:17:03,438
packet. We can we can go

2237
01:17:03,438 --> 01:17:05,838
through them specifically if

2238
01:17:07,375 --> 01:17:09,775
you want signage violations,

2239
01:17:10,545 --> 01:17:11,446
there's somebody by the name

2240
01:17:11,446 --> 01:17:14,446
will Mahar llc. That's also

2241
01:17:15,384 --> 01:17:17,252
cited as a violator in 2025.

2242
01:17:17,252 --> 01:17:20,252
2026 after the stores open in

2243
01:17:22,191 --> 01:17:23,425
your pack. Mahar llc, uproar

2244
01:17:23,425 --> 01:17:24,292
Mahar is apparently operator.

2245
01:17:24,292 --> 01:17:26,962
I guess a tenant. There's

2246
01:17:26,962 --> 01:17:27,995
referenced in the report from

2247
01:17:27,995 --> 01:17:29,865
the this is a neighborhood

2248
01:17:29,865 --> 01:17:31,667
services department. The

2249
01:17:31,667 --> 01:17:33,769
inspector that Mahar as a

2250
01:17:33,769 --> 01:17:35,704
tenant and there are

2251
01:17:35,704 --> 01:17:36,672
violations of zoning

2252
01:17:36,672 --> 01:17:38,908
ordinances, signage. And then

2253
01:17:38,908 --> 01:17:40,909
the Marin County Health

2254
01:17:40,909 --> 01:17:42,578
Department apparently got a

2255
01:17:42,578 --> 01:17:43,278
bounced check from the Har llc

2256
01:17:43,278 --> 01:17:44,847
for its license. I don't even

2257
01:17:44,847 --> 01:17:46,482
know that's licensed. My point

2258
01:17:46,482 --> 01:17:50,820
of all, this is well council

2259
01:17:51,860 --> 01:17:54,686
wants to make MR. Some wonder

2260
01:17:58,930 --> 01:17:58,794
saying our online llc, gist of

2261
01:17:58,794 --> 01:17:59,528
just an absolute Abbott Haro

2262
01:17:59,528 --> 01:18:00,229
of performance. I'm telling

2263
01:18:00,229 --> 01:18:02,131
you that at this station, if

2264
01:18:02,131 --> 01:18:04,320
you look at the documents that

2265
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:04,767
we've submitted, the owner of

2266
01:18:04,767 --> 01:18:08,700
this property MAY not be the

2267
01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:10,139
operator MAY be Mahar llc is

2268
01:18:10,139 --> 01:18:12,374
in fact the operator or the

2269
01:18:12,374 --> 01:18:15,374
tenant there have been several

2270
01:18:16,111 --> 01:18:17,247
violations at this location.

2271
01:18:17,247 --> 01:18:19,616
So now that that that doesn't

2272
01:18:19,616 --> 01:18:22,118
reflect well upon an extension

2273
01:18:22,118 --> 01:18:23,820
of the of the other use.

2274
01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:26,820
Council's asked for her. I'm

2275
01:18:29,626 --> 01:18:30,794
going to say. In conclusion is

2276
01:18:30,794 --> 01:18:32,127
appreciated. That zoning is a

2277
01:18:32,127 --> 01:18:32,829
legislative function made by

2278
01:18:32,829 --> 01:18:35,964
the body politic. And that is

2279
01:18:35,964 --> 01:18:38,134
you, however, the record in

2280
01:18:38,134 --> 01:18:39,269
this case does not support the

2281
01:18:39,269 --> 01:18:40,937
rezoning army to allow this

2282
01:18:40,937 --> 01:18:42,172
property have a fueling

2283
01:18:42,172 --> 01:18:42,839
station. With all due respect

2284
01:18:42,839 --> 01:18:45,775
to the counselors who have

2285
01:18:45,775 --> 01:18:48,440
supported that. Calling up of

2286
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:48,578
this matter and with

2287
01:18:48,578 --> 01:18:50,460
recognition of the

2288
01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:50,780
relationship of Wind are

2289
01:18:50,780 --> 01:18:53,180
saying they've won 3, 1, ditch

2290
01:18:53,917 --> 01:18:54,517
road in Carmel as a supporter

2291
01:18:54,517 --> 01:18:55,119
of them in with the

2292
01:18:55,119 --> 01:18:56,986
recognition of the new

2293
01:18:56,986 --> 01:18:57,888
convenience store at the site

2294
01:18:57,888 --> 01:19:00,288
being an improvement over

2295
01:19:00,391 --> 01:19:00,957
previous structure. So the

2296
01:19:00,957 --> 01:19:03,357
site there is nothing

2297
01:19:04,327 --> 01:19:06,329
substantive to support this

2298
01:19:06,329 --> 01:19:08,729
rezoning on bought the

2299
01:19:09,532 --> 01:19:11,532
property for almost $200,000

2300
01:19:11,734 --> 01:19:12,569
in 2022. Bill to permit a

2301
01:19:12,569 --> 01:19:14,969
convenience store was well

2302
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,600
aware of the commitments there

2303
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,408
on received the benefit of its

2304
01:19:18,408 --> 01:19:20,900
bargain. That exactly where

2305
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:22,110
part floor and then decided to

2306
01:19:22,110 --> 01:19:24,130
go ahead. And I let me say

2307
01:19:24,130 --> 01:19:25,215
that I have never heard

2308
01:19:25,215 --> 01:19:25,916
anything about all this

2309
01:19:25,916 --> 01:19:26,483
negotiation, but well, we'll

2310
01:19:26,483 --> 01:19:27,984
go ahead and build a

2311
01:19:27,984 --> 01:19:28,885
convenience store to see how

2312
01:19:28,885 --> 01:19:32,689
it goes. We've got a guy that

2313
01:19:32,689 --> 01:19:34,625
we have an entity, a principal

2314
01:19:34,625 --> 01:19:35,425
of that entity who has I think

2315
01:19:35,425 --> 01:19:38,796
I thought I heard council said

2316
01:19:38,796 --> 01:19:40,290
maybe 100 locations, 100

2317
01:19:40,290 --> 01:19:42,132
businesses and and went ahead

2318
01:19:42,132 --> 01:19:43,133
and built this convenience

2319
01:19:43,133 --> 01:19:45,200
store without gas. And now

2320
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,204
comes in now for the 7th time

2321
01:19:47,204 --> 01:19:50,204
after 6, the Niles by the

2322
01:19:51,107 --> 01:19:51,809
hearing examiner, the mdc

2323
01:19:51,809 --> 01:19:52,476
seeking a gas station. I want

2324
01:19:52,476 --> 01:19:56,760
to talk a little bit about

2325
01:19:56,614 --> 01:19:59,950
about the of the staff report.

2326
01:19:59,950 --> 01:20:04,150
For a run out of time. The

2327
01:20:06,157 --> 01:20:07,324
staffer for provided in part

2328
01:20:07,324 --> 01:20:08,926
The request would rezone the

2329
01:20:08,926 --> 01:20:11,280
site to siesta provide for c 3

2330
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,280
uses automobile fueling

2331
01:20:13,197 --> 01:20:14,432
station. The cs designed is

2332
01:20:14,432 --> 01:20:17,432
designed to permit within a

2333
01:20:17,468 --> 01:20:18,135
single zoning district. Multi

2334
01:20:18,135 --> 01:20:20,535
use commercial complexes or

2335
01:20:21,639 --> 01:20:22,640
land use combinations of

2336
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,308
commercial and non-commercial

2337
01:20:24,308 --> 01:20:25,750
uses for single use commercial

2338
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:26,912
projects. Then the staff

2339
01:20:26,912 --> 01:20:30,800
report goes on to say the

2340
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,480
special commercial district is

2341
01:20:32,683 --> 01:20:33,851
that is established for the

2342
01:20:33,851 --> 01:20:35,619
following purposes. One to

2343
01:20:35,619 --> 01:20:36,854
encourage a more creative

2344
01:20:36,854 --> 01:20:37,822
approach in land, planning

2345
01:20:37,822 --> 01:20:38,790
superior site and structural

2346
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:39,757
design and development to to

2347
01:20:39,757 --> 01:20:42,226
provide for use of land with a

2348
01:20:42,226 --> 01:20:43,962
highly functional news. 3 to

2349
01:20:43,962 --> 01:20:45,162
ensure compatibility with land

2350
01:20:45,162 --> 01:20:48,162
uses both within cs and

2351
01:20:49,868 --> 01:20:51,200
adjacent areas for to permit

2352
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:51,869
special consideration of

2353
01:20:51,869 --> 01:20:52,537
property with outstanding

2354
01:20:52,537 --> 01:20:53,271
features, including but not

2355
01:20:53,271 --> 01:20:56,271
limited to store or potential

2356
01:20:57,775 --> 01:20:58,844
or social significance. To

2357
01:20:58,844 --> 01:20:59,644
provide maximum adaptability

2358
01:20:59,644 --> 01:21:02,581
and flexibility in zoning and

2359
01:21:02,581 --> 01:21:03,315
development controls to meet

2360
01:21:03,315 --> 01:21:04,750
the changing and diverse needs

2361
01:21:04,750 --> 01:21:07,150
of metropolitan area. Here's

2362
01:21:10,822 --> 01:21:11,423
what staff concludes in 2026.

2363
01:21:11,423 --> 01:21:13,823
Staff believes that the

2364
01:21:14,250 --> 01:21:15,930
development of this site with

2365
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:16,762
a gasoline station does not

2366
01:21:16,762 --> 01:21:17,496
align with any of the above

2367
01:21:17,496 --> 01:21:19,896
purposes that the ordinance

2368
01:21:20,165 --> 01:21:22,701
outlines for the cs District.

2369
01:21:22,701 --> 01:21:25,137
It is already zoned c 4, which

2370
01:21:25,137 --> 01:21:27,537
permits 59 primary land uses.

2371
01:21:29,407 --> 01:21:31,807
An additional. Specific I'm

2372
01:21:32,145 --> 01:21:32,979
sorry land uses and 26

2373
01:21:32,979 --> 01:21:34,979
accessory uses. Furthermore,

2374
01:21:35,914 --> 01:21:36,815
many of those land, land

2375
01:21:36,815 --> 01:21:38,750
categories identify additional

2376
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:41,120
specific uses within the Cold

2377
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,210
War in staff's opinion. The

2378
01:21:42,210 --> 01:21:43,256
site as many permitted uses

2379
01:21:43,256 --> 01:21:43,955
that would serve the

2380
01:21:43,955 --> 01:21:45,955
surrounding neighborhood and

2381
01:21:46,192 --> 01:21:48,193
support the plan. The other

2382
01:21:48,193 --> 01:21:50,328
thing I want to talk about the

2383
01:21:50,328 --> 01:21:52,364
comp plan. Staff believes that

2384
01:21:52,364 --> 01:21:53,640
the convenience stores

2385
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,433
improvement of the site that

2386
01:21:54,433 --> 01:21:56,101
fallen into Disrepair, and

2387
01:21:56,101 --> 01:21:57,102
supports the plan.

2388
01:21:57,102 --> 01:21:59,102
Recommendations of village

2389
01:22:01,340 --> 01:22:02,574
mixed use. However. Further

2390
01:22:02,574 --> 01:22:03,242
development of the site for an

2391
01:22:03,242 --> 01:22:04,709
automobile feeling station

2392
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:06,278
would increase the commercial

2393
01:22:06,278 --> 01:22:06,979
intensity and encroachments

2394
01:22:06,979 --> 01:22:09,979
that would be detrimental to

2395
01:22:10,383 --> 01:22:11,820
the surrounding land uses. But

2396
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:13,820
introducing increased traffic

2397
01:22:13,152 --> 01:22:14,921
noise, lighting trash into the

2398
01:22:14,921 --> 01:22:16,456
area council talked about a

2399
01:22:16,456 --> 01:22:18,591
traffic study. There is no

2400
01:22:18,591 --> 01:22:19,358
traffic study. I haven't seen

2401
01:22:19,358 --> 01:22:20,930
a traffic study. There was no

2402
01:22:20,930 --> 01:22:21,260
traffic's that there were some

2403
01:22:21,260 --> 01:22:24,260
traffic counts that were put

2404
01:22:24,931 --> 01:22:26,165
in a traffic study as you I'm

2405
01:22:26,165 --> 01:22:27,867
sure know. It's something that

2406
01:22:27,867 --> 01:22:29,769
either Dmd can request or

2407
01:22:29,769 --> 01:22:31,737
individual can voluntarily do.

2408
01:22:31,737 --> 01:22:33,500
That was not done in this

2409
01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:34,707
case. They're going to be more

2410
01:22:34,707 --> 01:22:36,876
stops in and out of the

2411
01:22:36,876 --> 01:22:40,476
station if going to be gas

2412
01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:43,500
there, there's a residential

2413
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,650
zoning as as the staff report

2414
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:48,821
points out to the East d 3

2415
01:22:48,821 --> 01:22:49,522
single-family dwelling zoning.

2416
01:22:49,522 --> 01:22:51,125
So now we're going to put it.

2417
01:22:51,125 --> 01:22:54,761
They want to put a gas station

2418
01:22:54,761 --> 01:22:56,863
that's going to operate. 24 7

2419
01:22:56,863 --> 01:22:57,597
next to dwellings. 3

2420
01:22:57,597 --> 01:22:58,197
incompatible use. And the comp

2421
01:22:58,197 --> 01:23:00,597
plan says it shouldn't.

2422
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:01,502
Shouldn't be used to. The last

2423
01:23:01,502 --> 01:23:04,838
thing I want to talk about in

2424
01:23:04,838 --> 01:23:05,906
the comp plan is the specifics

2425
01:23:05,906 --> 01:23:08,709
of the village mixed use

2426
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:10,100
Typology, which is what this

2427
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:12,411
is. And then in in their their

2428
01:23:12,411 --> 01:23:14,747
is a specific statement in the

2429
01:23:14,747 --> 01:23:16,750
comp plan approved by. The

2430
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:19,750
commission and and and I

2431
01:23:22,256 --> 01:23:22,923
council. No fueling stations.

2432
01:23:22,923 --> 01:23:25,923
So the comp plan expressly

2433
01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:29,630
calls us out. Based upon this.

2434
01:23:29,630 --> 01:23:32,300
We respectfully request come

2435
01:23:33,667 --> 01:23:37,267
that the council go along with

2436
01:23:37,804 --> 01:23:39,720
the past 6 recommendations.

2437
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:40,841
From the mdc and that hearing

2438
01:23:40,841 --> 01:23:41,708
examiner and not allow fueling

2439
01:23:41,708 --> 01:23:42,642
station. Thank you for your

2440
01:23:42,642 --> 01:23:45,642
time. Happy to take any

2441
01:23:46,613 --> 01:23:47,848
questions. Thank you. This

2442
01:23:47,848 --> 01:23:48,949
matter matter was advertised

2443
01:23:48,949 --> 01:23:51,617
for public hearing. And I will

2444
01:23:51,617 --> 01:23:52,686
now call on public comment

2445
01:23:52,686 --> 01:23:53,887
from anyone in attendance. His

2446
01:23:53,887 --> 01:23:55,155
interest in the matter has not

2447
01:23:55,155 --> 01:23:57,458
already been included, are

2448
01:23:57,458 --> 01:23:59,560
discussed any way by either

2449
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:00,528
side. If you have submitted a

2450
01:24:00,528 --> 01:24:02,796
letter or email or sign

2451
01:24:02,796 --> 01:24:06,396
petition for either side or if

2452
01:24:06,733 --> 01:24:07,301
you are neighborhood resident

2453
01:24:07,301 --> 01:24:08,702
who has already been

2454
01:24:08,702 --> 01:24:09,803
represented by chosen

2455
01:24:09,803 --> 01:24:10,671
spokesperson. Your comments

2456
01:24:10,671 --> 01:24:12,606
will have to be included in

2457
01:24:12,606 --> 01:24:14,700
the remaining time. A lot of

2458
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:15,909
for rebuttal comments from

2459
01:24:15,909 --> 01:24:18,780
anyone whose interest has not

2460
01:24:18,780 --> 01:24:19,947
been covered by either side

2461
01:24:19,947 --> 01:24:20,982
are limited to 2 minutes per

2462
01:24:20,982 --> 01:24:21,683
individual. And once again,

2463
01:24:21,683 --> 01:24:24,919
our clerk will be setting the

2464
01:24:24,919 --> 01:24:25,820
timer so that you will. Know,

2465
01:24:25,820 --> 01:24:26,520
when your time is up, please

2466
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,923
be respectful of the time and

2467
01:24:28,923 --> 01:24:30,580
conclude your comments when

2468
01:24:30,580 --> 01:24:32,760
you hear that. But are will

2469
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,895
begin by checking in with

2470
01:24:34,895 --> 01:24:35,563
MADAM Clerk for any names. Are

2471
01:24:35,563 --> 01:24:36,197
it of individuals who have

2472
01:24:36,197 --> 01:24:37,198
signed up to give public

2473
01:24:37,198 --> 01:24:39,598
testimony on this matter?

2474
01:24:52,381 --> 01:24:54,381
MADAM Clerk.

2475
01:25:07,328 --> 01:25:07,996
Thank you Hello.

2476
01:25:07,996 --> 01:25:11,596
My name is Jacob Morales. I

2477
01:25:12,801 --> 01:25:13,968
live in District 13. We're 6

2478
01:25:13,968 --> 01:25:15,638
to 0, 1, I'm here to remind

2479
01:25:15,638 --> 01:25:18,380
straight against the gas

2480
01:25:18,874 --> 01:25:20,742
station. In fact, you'll

2481
01:25:20,742 --> 01:25:21,376
probably find the rim on

2482
01:25:21,376 --> 01:25:22,760
straining against any gas

2483
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:22,812
station. I believe that there

2484
01:25:22,812 --> 01:25:26,148
way too many gas stations here

2485
01:25:26,148 --> 01:25:26,815
in Marion County. In not just

2486
01:25:26,815 --> 01:25:29,815
5 in the area. There are 2

2487
01:25:31,619 --> 01:25:33,756
within 1000 feet. This current

2488
01:25:33,756 --> 01:25:34,355
location. I also like to make

2489
01:25:34,355 --> 01:25:36,559
it quick correction to

2490
01:25:36,559 --> 01:25:38,959
something that the up

2491
01:25:40,296 --> 01:25:42,980
Petitioner said. He said one

2492
01:25:42,980 --> 01:25:44,990
that I bring in this gas

2493
01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:45,668
station that it will attract

2494
01:25:45,668 --> 01:25:47,803
new business is right. It's

2495
01:25:47,803 --> 01:25:48,504
going to bring more people to

2496
01:25:48,504 --> 01:25:50,305
the area, more shopping, more

2497
01:25:50,305 --> 01:25:51,173
businesses. That sounds great.

2498
01:25:51,173 --> 01:25:54,773
And then it goes to contradict

2499
01:25:54,910 --> 01:25:55,644
himself by saying that the

2500
01:25:55,644 --> 01:25:56,344
traffic study there will be no

2501
01:25:56,344 --> 01:25:57,460
more traffic. Actually, it's

2502
01:25:57,460 --> 01:25:59,748
going to be exactly the same.

2503
01:25:59,748 --> 01:26:00,784
So which is it? And then he

2504
01:26:00,784 --> 01:26:03,784
goes on to talk about

2505
01:26:04,190 --> 01:26:04,652
capitalism and how despite

2506
01:26:04,652 --> 01:26:05,453
selling, you know, great

2507
01:26:05,453 --> 01:26:07,853
goods, fresh foods, fresh

2508
01:26:09,425 --> 01:26:10,325
meats. Sounds like a bodega.

2509
01:26:10,325 --> 01:26:11,260
He will not be able to survive

2510
01:26:11,260 --> 01:26:15,226
that they will not be able to

2511
01:26:16,165 --> 01:26:17,366
survive business. And gee, I

2512
01:26:17,366 --> 01:26:18,968
wonder why bodegas thrive on

2513
01:26:18,968 --> 01:26:21,804
having really any housing I'm

2514
01:26:21,804 --> 01:26:22,538
going to just hold this up for

2515
01:26:22,538 --> 01:26:23,139
people in the audience just to

2516
01:26:23,139 --> 01:26:26,139
kind of see what the

2517
01:26:26,976 --> 01:26:28,879
intersection looks like. Does

2518
01:26:28,879 --> 01:26:29,578
this look like a with some

2519
01:26:29,578 --> 01:26:32,578
counselors MAY describe as a

2520
01:26:33,116 --> 01:26:35,684
as a smart city as as some

2521
01:26:35,684 --> 01:26:36,219
place where people can go to

2522
01:26:36,219 --> 01:26:36,920
support their local

2523
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,622
businesses. Small the day is

2524
01:26:39,622 --> 01:26:40,923
like this can stay in

2525
01:26:40,923 --> 01:26:41,992
business. It. I don't think

2526
01:26:41,992 --> 01:26:44,694
so. This is just going to be

2527
01:26:44,694 --> 01:26:46,496
another case of one gas

2528
01:26:46,496 --> 01:26:48,397
station, catty corner to

2529
01:26:48,397 --> 01:26:50,566
another, maybe eventually for

2530
01:26:50,566 --> 01:26:54,166
lucky. We'll get a used tire

2531
01:26:54,604 --> 01:26:56,440
shop. Who knows? But with that

2532
01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:57,641
said, I just like to wrap up

2533
01:26:57,641 --> 01:27:00,477
way too many gas stations.

2534
01:27:00,477 --> 01:27:02,446
Please, please, please urge

2535
01:27:02,446 --> 01:27:03,450
the mdc to either enact a

2536
01:27:03,450 --> 01:27:03,914
moratorium, especially

2537
01:27:03,914 --> 01:27:04,947
especially along public

2538
01:27:04,947 --> 01:27:07,347
transit routes. These routes

2539
01:27:07,451 --> 01:27:08,385
are designed for buses. We

2540
01:27:08,385 --> 01:27:11,555
should not be adding more cars

2541
01:27:11,555 --> 01:27:12,189
into makes which honestly.

2542
01:27:12,189 --> 01:27:14,589
Mentioned safety as well.

2543
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:17,661
Right? What that people are

2544
01:27:17,661 --> 01:27:19,763
afraid to cross the street in

2545
01:27:19,763 --> 01:27:20,698
their vehicles or on foot and

2546
01:27:20,698 --> 01:27:24,298
thank you so much for your

2547
01:27:25,402 --> 01:27:27,270
time. Thank you. Are there any

2548
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:29,600
is there anyone else in the

2549
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,600
audience that wishes to speak

2550
01:27:33,276 --> 01:27:33,944
zoning case? Please state your

2551
01:27:33,944 --> 01:27:37,544
name. Hi. My name is Randy

2552
01:27:39,850 --> 01:27:40,817
Berryman. I would like to ask.

2553
01:27:40,817 --> 01:27:42,419
It's normal for a PRESIDENT

2554
01:27:42,419 --> 01:27:43,354
For McCAnn. A to write a

2555
01:27:43,354 --> 01:27:46,354
letter numerous times on the

2556
01:27:46,523 --> 01:27:48,125
exact same thing. I would also

2557
01:27:48,125 --> 01:27:48,792
like to draw attention that

2558
01:27:48,792 --> 01:27:51,561
we've had more time hearing

2559
01:27:51,561 --> 01:27:53,897
about a gas station. Then we

2560
01:27:53,897 --> 01:27:54,631
have the entire time public

2561
01:27:54,631 --> 01:27:57,631
speaking about data centers in

2562
01:28:11,916 --> 01:28:12,984
India. Additional comments. At

2563
01:28:12,984 --> 01:28:13,918
this time last the petition

2564
01:28:13,918 --> 01:28:17,518
air that you can use remaining

2565
01:28:17,655 --> 01:28:18,556
of your time for any other

2566
01:28:18,556 --> 01:28:19,223
additional comments are

2567
01:28:19,223 --> 01:28:21,623
rebuttal. MADAM Clerk, how

2568
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,760
much time is remaining? John 4

2569
01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:30,100
minutes? 10 seconds. Thank one

2570
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:31,736
thing of interest, I would

2571
01:28:31,736 --> 01:28:35,106
tell you that in the last

2572
01:28:35,106 --> 01:28:36,908
hearing. There were 3 votes

2573
01:28:36,908 --> 01:28:41,108
for many votes. And for me, it

2574
01:28:41,213 --> 01:28:42,547
is. In the 3 votes I think are

2575
01:28:42,547 --> 01:28:44,947
interesting because one was

2576
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:46,584
John Dillon Husel CHAIRMAN,

2577
01:28:46,584 --> 01:28:49,584
the zoning appeals board. The

2578
01:28:51,823 --> 01:28:52,590
other one is Brandon. Her get.

2579
01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:53,224
Who is many of, you know, was

2580
01:28:53,224 --> 01:28:55,527
head of the Department of

2581
01:28:55,527 --> 01:28:57,927
Public Works. And Bridgette

2582
01:28:59,931 --> 01:29:02,331
Robinson. Those 3 people voted

2583
01:29:04,202 --> 01:29:04,937
yes, to allow. And I think

2584
01:29:04,937 --> 01:29:07,773
those 3 people program as much

2585
01:29:07,773 --> 01:29:08,407
knowledge anybody about zoning

2586
01:29:08,407 --> 01:29:11,407
and what's needed and not

2587
01:29:13,912 --> 01:29:14,613
needed. The other thing is I

2588
01:29:14,613 --> 01:29:18,813
we know what to say about the

2589
01:29:20,686 --> 01:29:22,686
comment. COUNCILMAN Miscarry

2590
01:29:24,323 --> 01:29:26,323
getting political donations.

2591
01:29:27,292 --> 01:29:29,292
19 or 2023 Wilson Election

2592
01:29:29,595 --> 01:29:33,195
Year where he had of opponent

2593
01:29:34,990 --> 01:29:34,800
and many of us and this

2594
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,800
actually attended fundraisers

2595
01:29:38,837 --> 01:29:39,505
on his behalf. And I and I

2596
01:29:39,505 --> 01:29:42,505
take I can believe somebody

2597
01:29:44,910 --> 01:29:45,611
would bring that up. This is

2598
01:29:45,611 --> 01:29:48,611
just told you something about

2599
01:29:51,450 --> 01:29:53,252
the people. Again, when you

2600
01:29:53,252 --> 01:29:55,420
look at the people that voted

2601
01:29:55,420 --> 01:29:56,121
for this, obviously he didn't

2602
01:29:56,121 --> 01:29:58,290
bring one thing up about the

2603
01:29:58,290 --> 01:29:59,526
all the petitions. They filed

2604
01:29:59,526 --> 01:30:01,794
190 petitions. Not one word

2605
01:30:01,794 --> 01:30:03,620
about those will be almost all

2606
01:30:03,620 --> 01:30:05,898
phony that were presented as

2607
01:30:05,898 --> 01:30:07,933
evidence in the last couple.

2608
01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:08,600
He runs and we finally decided

2609
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:09,868
to serve making phone calls

2610
01:30:09,868 --> 01:30:11,437
because we're getting phone

2611
01:30:11,437 --> 01:30:13,105
calls from some people say I

2612
01:30:13,105 --> 01:30:16,105
never signing the petition and

2613
01:30:16,308 --> 01:30:17,900
plus a limb for this. And he

2614
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:20,345
made the best. What best for

2615
01:30:20,345 --> 01:30:21,470
you when you made was for for

2616
01:30:21,470 --> 01:30:21,714
should add is that all these

2617
01:30:21,714 --> 01:30:25,314
people who live on the east

2618
01:30:27,586 --> 01:30:28,153
side of this. Older people

2619
01:30:28,153 --> 01:30:30,553
sink are very elderly

2620
01:30:30,590 --> 01:30:32,590
pensions, etcetera. And

2621
01:30:33,626 --> 01:30:36,960
they're the ones that sign the

2622
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,965
petitions for us to allow

2623
01:30:38,965 --> 01:30:42,268
guests so they would have to

2624
01:30:42,268 --> 01:30:42,936
be able to get go there and

2625
01:30:42,936 --> 01:30:44,437
get food and not have that.

2626
01:30:44,437 --> 01:30:48,637
Can not a of the store clothes

2627
01:30:48,808 --> 01:30:53,800
so you know, MR. Is a very

2628
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:53,680
good businessman. He was

2629
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,347
trying. It is trying to do

2630
01:30:54,347 --> 01:30:55,148
something positive for this

2631
01:30:55,148 --> 01:30:58,748
area where he lived for many

2632
01:31:00,190 --> 01:31:00,720
years. You know, they keep

2633
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:01,421
talking about we're going to

2634
01:31:01,421 --> 01:31:03,220
bring in all you can bring in

2635
01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:05,358
all these other businesses.

2636
01:31:05,358 --> 01:31:06,559
You know, many businesses

2637
01:31:06,559 --> 01:31:07,560
contacted our office or MISTER

2638
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,560
Saying about wanting to come

2639
01:31:14,167 --> 01:31:15,568
in there. 0. 2017, not one.

2640
01:31:15,568 --> 01:31:19,768
And then well, you can put you

2641
01:31:21,141 --> 01:31:23,177
can put a a 2 story apartments

2642
01:31:23,177 --> 01:31:27,377
in there. If you knew the site

2643
01:31:28,949 --> 01:31:30,884
that's impossible. This is

2644
01:31:30,884 --> 01:31:31,519
tough site we've got gentleman

2645
01:31:31,519 --> 01:31:33,854
as well. And he's already

2646
01:31:33,854 --> 01:31:34,789
spent over a million dollars

2647
01:31:34,789 --> 01:31:35,522
to try to make it work and

2648
01:31:35,522 --> 01:31:37,590
he's willing to go forward and

2649
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:38,325
do that with gas. But you

2650
01:31:38,325 --> 01:31:40,827
don't get gas on or what might

2651
01:31:40,827 --> 01:31:42,263
happen. So. Thank you very

2652
01:31:42,263 --> 01:31:45,263
take questions now are thank

2653
01:31:45,299 --> 01:31:46,300
you, MR. Khan, thank you both

2654
01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:46,967
for your presentation this

2655
01:31:46,967 --> 01:31:49,967
evening. At this time, any

2656
01:31:50,671 --> 01:31:52,173
council who wishes to speak be

2657
01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:53,700
a lot of 2 minutes for each

2658
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:55,743
question and for debate Sony

2659
01:31:55,743 --> 01:31:57,178
regarding this zoning case.

2660
01:31:57,178 --> 01:31:59,460
Pete, please be advised that

2661
01:31:59,460 --> 01:31:59,647
you will be limited to 2

2662
01:31:59,647 --> 01:32:01,549
minutes in order to be

2663
01:32:01,549 --> 01:32:03,949
respectful of the published

2664
01:32:04,485 --> 01:32:06,885
process everyone else's time.

2665
01:32:10,357 --> 01:32:12,757
Additional comments counts are

2666
01:32:12,827 --> 01:32:13,561
this is just a simple

2667
01:32:13,561 --> 01:32:15,463
question. Scary. But basically

2668
01:32:15,463 --> 01:32:17,731
you as a district council

2669
01:32:17,731 --> 01:32:19,633
believe that and gas service

2670
01:32:19,633 --> 01:32:22,303
at this location would benefit

2671
01:32:22,303 --> 01:32:23,237
your constituents. Yes,

2672
01:32:23,237 --> 01:32:25,237
absolutely. You recently

2673
01:32:26,440 --> 01:32:27,142
Walmart families closed

2674
01:32:27,142 --> 01:32:30,742
actually east of this is the

2675
01:32:31,879 --> 01:32:33,682
and a commons. And has a 60

2676
01:32:33,682 --> 01:32:34,348
homeless folks they need to

2677
01:32:34,348 --> 01:32:37,348
going of food. They've been

2678
01:32:38,787 --> 01:32:39,488
going to this also. The

2679
01:32:39,488 --> 01:32:40,870
Wal-Marts is going to reopen

2680
01:32:40,870 --> 01:32:43,687
it in end of the month.

2681
01:32:43,692 --> 01:32:46,527
Believe. But I think it says a

2682
01:32:46,527 --> 01:32:47,263
gas war simple as that. The

2683
01:32:47,263 --> 01:32:47,863
only re monsters we have is

2684
01:32:47,863 --> 01:32:50,263
the other gas stations

2685
01:32:51,233 --> 01:32:53,233
counseling. Additional

2686
01:32:54,336 --> 01:32:56,736
comments. Cancer kale. Thank

2687
01:32:57,105 --> 01:32:58,306
you, MADAM PRESIDENT, this

2688
01:32:58,306 --> 01:33:00,706
property is immediately across

2689
01:33:01,610 --> 01:33:02,878
the street from the council

2690
01:33:02,878 --> 01:33:04,513
boundaries. So COUNCILMAN

2691
01:33:04,513 --> 01:33:05,213
Scary has the east side of

2692
01:33:05,213 --> 01:33:08,160
Keystone eye of the West. And

2693
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,717
in fact, just to the south of

2694
01:33:08,717 --> 01:33:11,717
here, actually both sides of

2695
01:33:12,721 --> 01:33:13,455
the street in Roselle Hills. I

2696
01:33:13,455 --> 01:33:16,892
have heard that for as long as

2697
01:33:16,892 --> 01:33:17,592
been going on. I've heard from

2698
01:33:17,592 --> 01:33:19,992
in particular Rosedale Hills,

2699
01:33:20,763 --> 01:33:21,430
but I from from some people in

2700
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:22,898
University Heights that are

2701
01:33:22,898 --> 01:33:24,898
both adjacent neighborhoods

2702
01:33:25,660 --> 01:33:26,234
that they are in favor of

2703
01:33:26,234 --> 01:33:29,234
this. That the it really

2704
01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:31,390
didn't get discussed here. But

2705
01:33:31,390 --> 01:33:32,140
the property across the street

2706
01:33:32,140 --> 01:33:33,842
that's in my district is

2707
01:33:33,842 --> 01:33:35,430
almost completely abandoned

2708
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:37,846
strip mall. As a result, we

2709
01:33:37,846 --> 01:33:39,581
have a lot of crime occurring

2710
01:33:39,581 --> 01:33:40,515
there. To your point, there is

2711
01:33:40,515 --> 01:33:42,915
additional housing being built

2712
01:33:44,653 --> 01:33:45,287
my district the residents are

2713
01:33:45,287 --> 01:33:47,657
senior citizens that have

2714
01:33:47,657 --> 01:33:50,657
expressed an interest to this

2715
01:33:51,494 --> 01:33:52,194
new location as well. And I

2716
01:33:52,194 --> 01:33:52,861
can say that I've worked much

2717
01:33:52,861 --> 01:33:55,531
of my career in the

2718
01:33:55,531 --> 01:33:57,532
convenience store industry and

2719
01:33:57,532 --> 01:33:58,634
the reality is this is a

2720
01:33:58,634 --> 01:34:00,634
suburban environment and

2721
01:34:00,735 --> 01:34:02,572
making non gas convenience

2722
01:34:02,572 --> 01:34:04,307
store is it's just almost

2723
01:34:04,307 --> 01:34:07,243
impossible. There was one in

2724
01:34:07,243 --> 01:34:08,100
your district. For 31. It just

2725
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:08,744
closed a couple weeks ago. I

2726
01:34:08,744 --> 01:34:11,180
never knew how they were going

2727
01:34:11,180 --> 01:34:12,915
to make it without gas and

2728
01:34:12,915 --> 01:34:16,515
they did. And so the neighbors

2729
01:34:16,552 --> 01:34:17,186
have communicated to me

2730
01:34:17,186 --> 01:34:18,254
repeatedly that they are

2731
01:34:18,254 --> 01:34:19,889
supportive of this because it

2732
01:34:19,889 --> 01:34:20,890
is some kind of development

2733
01:34:20,890 --> 01:34:22,725
here. Comment. There isn't any

2734
01:34:22,725 --> 01:34:24,494
other interest. I wish there

2735
01:34:24,494 --> 01:34:25,161
was because I'd love for

2736
01:34:25,161 --> 01:34:27,530
something to be built on my

2737
01:34:27,530 --> 01:34:28,464
side of the street. But this

2738
01:34:28,464 --> 01:34:30,660
is the best thing that has

2739
01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:31,670
come along and so on. I'm

2740
01:34:31,670 --> 01:34:33,467
certainly gonna support. Thank

2741
01:34:33,770 --> 01:34:35,605
you. Thank you. Additional

2742
01:34:35,605 --> 01:34:37,605
comments counselors, Brown.

2743
01:34:39,542 --> 01:34:40,209
Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT.

2744
01:34:40,209 --> 01:34:41,577
Want to try to be brief in

2745
01:34:41,577 --> 01:34:42,278
respect Seminoles are getting

2746
01:34:42,278 --> 01:34:45,878
late. I first wanted to call

2747
01:34:47,250 --> 01:34:49,218
out. Just ridiculous it is to

2748
01:34:49,218 --> 01:34:51,120
pretend like money wouldn't be

2749
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,388
given to politicians to get a

2750
01:34:52,388 --> 01:34:53,523
political outcome. I think

2751
01:34:53,523 --> 01:34:56,523
that's just flatly absurd on

2752
01:34:57,193 --> 01:34:58,600
its face, especially when what

2753
01:34:58,600 --> 01:34:58,694
happened was not $1100 was

2754
01:34:58,694 --> 01:35:00,164
given to just come from a

2755
01:35:00,164 --> 01:35:03,300
scary it was going also the

2756
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:04,000
same amount to cause a And

2757
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,170
it's a rare person who lives

2758
01:35:06,170 --> 01:35:07,503
in Carmel, Indiana, who feel

2759
01:35:07,503 --> 01:35:08,739
so strongly about Indianapolis

2760
01:35:08,739 --> 01:35:09,440
politics that they want to

2761
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:10,174
both help a Republican and a

2762
01:35:10,174 --> 01:35:13,243
Democrat win on the south side

2763
01:35:13,243 --> 01:35:14,143
of town. It's probably not

2764
01:35:14,143 --> 01:35:15,712
being motivated by their

2765
01:35:15,712 --> 01:35:16,380
sincerely held beliefs. It's

2766
01:35:16,380 --> 01:35:17,800
probably being motivated by

2767
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,483
who they think could scratch

2768
01:35:19,483 --> 01:35:20,117
their back a little bit later.

2769
01:35:20,117 --> 01:35:20,817
That doesn't seem like a

2770
01:35:20,817 --> 01:35:23,420
ridiculous thing to state. It

2771
01:35:23,420 --> 01:35:25,522
seems comes it suggests that

2772
01:35:25,522 --> 01:35:27,524
as as Mr Khan mentioned, there

2773
01:35:27,524 --> 01:35:29,760
are many other people in the

2774
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,995
room, you know, that's Gave

2775
01:35:31,995 --> 01:35:33,931
$500 council escape that same

2776
01:35:33,931 --> 01:35:34,865
year. Yeah. So you're right.

2777
01:35:34,865 --> 01:35:35,999
There are a lot of people who

2778
01:35:35,999 --> 01:35:36,700
get engaged in this type of

2779
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:37,334
business. I don't think that

2780
01:35:37,334 --> 01:35:37,968
makes it right and that I

2781
01:35:37,968 --> 01:35:40,471
don't think that means we

2782
01:35:40,471 --> 01:35:42,473
shouldn't be questioning it. I

2783
01:35:42,473 --> 01:35:43,407
don't know if this is true. I

2784
01:35:43,407 --> 01:35:44,875
believe I might be the

2785
01:35:44,875 --> 01:35:46,210
counselor who lives closest to

2786
01:35:46,210 --> 01:35:49,210
a gas station. I'm 1.5 blocks.

2787
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:51,381
I'm not anybody has b b.

2788
01:35:51,381 --> 01:35:52,820
Whenever police are called in

2789
01:35:52,820 --> 01:35:52,749
my neighborhood, it's to the

2790
01:35:52,749 --> 01:35:55,152
gas station. That's a block

2791
01:35:55,152 --> 01:35:55,819
and a half from my house.

2792
01:35:55,819 --> 01:35:58,220
Whenever people leave their

2793
01:35:58,220 --> 01:36:00,224
rolling papers whenever people

2794
01:36:00,224 --> 01:36:00,924
leave their drug paraphernalia

2795
01:36:00,924 --> 01:36:03,924
when shootings happened a gas

2796
01:36:04,328 --> 01:36:07,164
station near my house. You

2797
01:36:07,164 --> 01:36:07,831
heard one of my constituents

2798
01:36:07,831 --> 01:36:08,565
speak-up earlier about what

2799
01:36:08,565 --> 01:36:09,867
I've heard consistently, which

2800
01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:11,603
is we do not need any more gas

2801
01:36:11,603 --> 01:36:12,503
stations in the city and most

2802
01:36:12,503 --> 01:36:13,237
constituents feel the way most

2803
01:36:13,237 --> 01:36:15,672
people don't want to live near

2804
01:36:15,672 --> 01:36:16,406
a gas station, which is why

2805
01:36:16,406 --> 01:36:18,909
MISTER Doesn't live near a gas

2806
01:36:18,909 --> 01:36:19,543
station. He lives up Carmel,

2807
01:36:19,543 --> 01:36:21,246
not here in Indianapolis,

2808
01:36:21,246 --> 01:36:22,846
close to the 6 gas stations

2809
01:36:22,846 --> 01:36:23,848
owned sites that we're talking

2810
01:36:23,848 --> 01:36:26,317
about. Finally, I just want to

2811
01:36:26,317 --> 01:36:28,552
point out that this room, at

2812
01:36:28,552 --> 01:36:29,219
least this half of the room is

2813
01:36:29,219 --> 01:36:29,954
filled with people who have

2814
01:36:29,954 --> 01:36:31,955
been participating and hearing

2815
01:36:31,955 --> 01:36:34,355
examiner hearings and hearings

2816
01:36:35,460 --> 01:36:36,161
in front of mdc. And they've

2817
01:36:36,161 --> 01:36:39,161
had very, very little ability

2818
01:36:39,164 --> 01:36:39,831
to hold developers

2819
01:36:39,831 --> 01:36:40,498
accountable, very little

2820
01:36:40,498 --> 01:36:42,767
ability. The one thing they

2821
01:36:42,767 --> 01:36:43,935
can do is with commitments.

2822
01:36:43,935 --> 01:36:44,569
And right now was watching a

2823
01:36:44,569 --> 01:36:45,303
developer just wanting to

2824
01:36:45,303 --> 01:36:47,505
throw commitments in the trash

2825
01:36:47,505 --> 01:36:48,507
for business sense. What

2826
01:36:48,507 --> 01:36:49,474
message are we sending in

2827
01:36:49,474 --> 01:36:51,176
terms of corruption and in

2828
01:36:51,176 --> 01:36:51,910
terms of accountability of

2829
01:36:51,910 --> 01:36:55,510
vote for this tonight is right

2830
01:36:57,615 --> 01:37:00,150
now. Additional comments will

2831
01:37:03,210 --> 01:37:05,210
counselors. CHAIRMAN, scary

2832
01:37:05,757 --> 01:37:06,591
Thank you. Thank you. MADAM

2833
01:37:06,591 --> 01:37:09,591
PRESIDENT, you know, one test

2834
01:37:09,661 --> 01:37:12,661
and one thing in 2010 or 11

2835
01:37:14,632 --> 01:37:16,902
when Iran first time $0

2836
01:37:16,902 --> 01:37:18,360
anyone. I played the game

2837
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,360
raise $3,000 of my own. I

2838
01:37:21,473 --> 01:37:22,675
believe in it. It took no

2839
01:37:22,675 --> 01:37:26,578
money. No one and I want so

2840
01:37:26,578 --> 01:37:27,846
here nor there campaign many

2841
01:37:27,846 --> 01:37:29,846
people taking thousands

2842
01:37:32,951 --> 01:37:33,652
dollars to get this job. But

2843
01:37:33,652 --> 01:37:37,252
like I said before, the only

2844
01:37:38,324 --> 01:37:40,259
Vermont stated we have. Is

2845
01:37:40,259 --> 01:37:40,926
another gas station. MADAM

2846
01:37:40,926 --> 01:37:43,326
PRESIDENT elect for reasons

2847
01:37:44,296 --> 01:37:45,231
I've already stated, I move.

2848
01:37:45,231 --> 01:37:47,660
City council overturned

2849
01:37:47,660 --> 01:37:48,868
emitted from Development

2850
01:37:48,868 --> 01:37:50,169
Commission's decision

2851
01:37:50,169 --> 01:37:52,169
regarding proposal. Number 2,

2852
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,600
6, 2026 rezoning case 2025

2853
01:37:58,711 --> 01:38:00,711
zone 84. Approving the

2854
01:38:01,647 --> 01:38:03,617
petition. I so move. The

2855
01:38:03,617 --> 01:38:05,751
motion has been properly moved

2856
01:38:05,751 --> 01:38:08,151
and seconded according to

2857
01:38:08,521 --> 01:38:09,922
state 3, this majority vote,

2858
01:38:09,922 --> 01:38:12,491
which is 15 votes is required

2859
01:38:12,491 --> 01:38:13,125
to overturn any zoning

2860
01:38:13,125 --> 01:38:14,426
decision certified to the

2861
01:38:14,426 --> 01:38:16,562
council by the Metropolitan

2862
01:38:16,562 --> 01:38:17,897
Development Commission. Any Vo

2863
01:38:17,897 --> 01:38:19,432
less than 15 Shelby declare

2864
01:38:19,432 --> 01:38:21,832
indecisive in the proposal.

2865
01:38:22,468 --> 01:38:25,468
Shell take effect pursuant to

2866
01:38:26,405 --> 01:38:29,405
I c 36. That's 7 dash 4 dash

2867
01:38:30,309 --> 01:38:31,760
608, based on MISS Carries

2868
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:32,946
motion a yea vote will be a

2869
01:38:32,946 --> 01:38:34,880
vote to overturn the nbc's

2870
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,949
decision and approve the

2871
01:38:36,949 --> 01:38:39,949
petition their pie there by

2872
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:41,754
passing it into law. A nay

2873
01:38:41,754 --> 01:38:42,489
vote will be a vote to uphold

2874
01:38:42,489 --> 01:38:45,258
the nbc's decision to deny the

2875
01:38:45,258 --> 01:38:48,858
petition. We'll now go to the

2876
01:38:57,971 --> 01:39:01,571
board for a vote. The motion

2877
01:39:04,177 --> 01:39:06,577
carries 23. 2, But now proceed

2878
01:39:07,147 --> 01:39:08,548
to special orders and business

2879
01:39:08,548 --> 01:39:09,483
proposal. Number one, 62

2880
01:39:09,483 --> 01:39:12,483
referred to admin a finance

2881
01:39:16,823 --> 01:39:18,823
committee CHAIRMAN. Scary.

2882
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:20,861
There go. Thank you. Thank

2883
01:39:20,861 --> 01:39:22,662
you, MADAM. PRESIDENT

2884
01:39:22,662 --> 01:39:23,396
Proposal, one 62 modifies is

2885
01:39:23,396 --> 01:39:25,465
sever ordinances related to

2886
01:39:25,465 --> 01:39:25,966
the human resource for

2887
01:39:25,966 --> 01:39:27,966
Division employee

2888
01:39:28,735 --> 01:39:31,671
compensation. In Lee for the

2889
01:39:31,671 --> 01:39:34,671
city and county employees pass

2890
01:39:35,308 --> 01:39:36,900
on the committee 0. I so move.

2891
01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:38,111
The most in his second year.

2892
01:39:38,111 --> 01:39:38,845
Their comments counselors.

2893
01:39:38,845 --> 01:39:42,445
Santa proceed to the board for

2894
01:39:49,757 --> 01:39:51,925
a vote. The proposal carries

2895
01:39:51,925 --> 01:39:54,694
24 to 0 the next item on our

2896
01:39:54,694 --> 01:39:55,328
agenda pose a number one. 27

2897
01:39:55,328 --> 01:39:56,630
refer to Metropolitan in

2898
01:39:56,630 --> 01:39:58,630
Economic Development Committee

2899
01:40:00,670 --> 01:40:00,735
CHAIRMAN Mostly. Thank you,

2900
01:40:00,735 --> 01:40:02,735
Madam. PRESIDENT Proposal.

2901
01:40:02,837 --> 01:40:04,839
Number one, 27 2026. Call for

2902
01:40:04,839 --> 01:40:05,807
the council to except for the

2903
01:40:05,807 --> 01:40:08,207
record, the 2026 admission for

2904
01:40:10,411 --> 01:40:11,780
the 2025 calendar year. Tax

2905
01:40:11,780 --> 01:40:13,780
increment finance district

2906
01:40:14,849 --> 01:40:17,249
financial report. Pursuant to

2907
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,120
I c 36 to 7 1, 5, 0.1 That's

2908
01:40:23,124 --> 01:40:25,124
36.3 The Metropolitan and

2909
01:40:26,227 --> 01:40:26,894
Economic Development Committee

2910
01:40:26,894 --> 01:40:28,729
reviewed and accepted this

2911
01:40:28,729 --> 01:40:29,363
report on JUNE 8th, a copy of

2912
01:40:29,363 --> 01:40:30,898
which is included in the

2913
01:40:30,898 --> 01:40:32,700
minutes of the committee

2914
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:33,367
hearing and submitted to the

2915
01:40:33,367 --> 01:40:33,936
clerk for inclusion in the

2916
01:40:33,936 --> 01:40:35,771
council's general of

2917
01:40:35,771 --> 01:40:37,872
proceedings. No further action

2918
01:40:37,872 --> 01:40:40,700
is required from the council.

2919
01:40:40,700 --> 01:40:42,430
Thank you. Thank you, MR.

2920
01:40:42,430 --> 01:40:43,678
CHAIRMAN, the next item on our

2921
01:40:43,678 --> 01:40:44,345
agenda proposal. Number one,

2922
01:40:44,345 --> 01:40:45,790
64 referred Metropolitan in

2923
01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:45,880
Economic Development Committee

2924
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,880
CHAIRMAN Al Sully. Thank you.

2925
01:40:50,952 --> 01:40:51,953
MADAM PRESIDENT. Which consent

2926
01:40:51,953 --> 01:40:54,655
I would like to take proposal

2927
01:40:54,655 --> 01:40:55,623
numbers. 1, 6, 5, 2, 1, 7, 7,

2928
01:40:55,623 --> 01:40:57,623
and 1, 7, 9, through 1, $0.08

2929
01:41:02,797 --> 01:41:04,799
We need to do one. 64 0st.

2930
01:41:04,799 --> 01:41:05,501
Proposal. Number 1, 6, 4,

2931
01:41:05,501 --> 01:41:07,268
proves the statement of

2932
01:41:07,268 --> 01:41:09,138
benefits for Zuma.

2933
01:41:09,138 --> 01:41:09,805
International Inc and

2934
01:41:09,805 --> 01:41:10,773
applicant for tax abatement

2935
01:41:10,773 --> 01:41:11,473
for property located in an

2936
01:41:11,473 --> 01:41:13,473
economic revitalization area

2937
01:41:14,977 --> 01:41:17,977
defined by I c 36, 10, 7 dash,

2938
01:41:20,949 --> 01:41:21,683
1, 5, 0.1 dash 26. The

2939
01:41:21,683 --> 01:41:25,283
proposal failed to pass out of

2940
01:41:25,554 --> 01:41:29,154
committee. By a vote of 5 to 5

2941
01:41:31,226 --> 01:41:31,927
and MADAM PRESIDENT, I move.

2942
01:41:31,927 --> 01:41:34,327
Cancer heart. MADAM MADAM

2943
01:41:34,696 --> 01:41:37,696
PRESIDENT Has stated by the

2944
01:41:38,734 --> 01:41:40,969
chair, the motion was made

2945
01:41:40,969 --> 01:41:41,637
just proposal. Number one, 64

2946
01:41:41,637 --> 01:41:42,371
2026 to the full council to

2947
01:41:42,371 --> 01:41:44,771
divest recommendation not pass

2948
01:41:44,807 --> 01:41:45,542
it. It was a 5 to 5 result.

2949
01:41:45,542 --> 01:41:48,878
And since that time, I want to

2950
01:41:48,878 --> 01:41:50,120
give some context. One lesson

2951
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,120
I learned, never take a

2952
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:55,585
vacation on a Monday. So I

2953
01:41:55,585 --> 01:41:57,553
wasn't unable to make the

2954
01:41:57,553 --> 01:41:59,688
committee that evening to this

2955
01:41:59,688 --> 01:42:00,322
explanation. But this is a

2956
01:42:00,322 --> 01:42:02,258
part of a massive

2957
01:42:02,258 --> 01:42:04,426
redevelopment on the east side

2958
01:42:04,426 --> 01:42:06,426
of Indianapolis. So

2959
01:42:07,296 --> 01:42:08,640
historically, there was a this

2960
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:08,730
the site that used to have

2961
01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:10,999
6,000 employees on the east

2962
01:42:10,999 --> 01:42:13,999
side of Indianapolis that shut

2963
01:42:14,904 --> 01:42:16,171
down in 2011 and then years

2964
01:42:16,171 --> 01:42:18,575
later, a developer loud came

2965
01:42:18,575 --> 01:42:21,575
in and started cleaning site.

2966
01:42:22,811 --> 01:42:24,848
They divided it into 4

2967
01:42:24,848 --> 01:42:26,249
quadrants. This is statement

2968
01:42:26,249 --> 01:42:26,949
benefits for the northeast

2969
01:42:26,949 --> 01:42:29,349
quadrant for an organization

2970
01:42:29,519 --> 01:42:30,587
that is a manufacturing

2971
01:42:30,587 --> 01:42:32,622
facility. What's really cool

2972
01:42:32,622 --> 01:42:34,524
to talk about this, the site

2973
01:42:34,524 --> 01:42:36,250
and he's been able to do and

2974
01:42:36,250 --> 01:42:36,961
bring in folks like this is

2975
01:42:36,961 --> 01:42:37,627
the lot of jobs or they're

2976
01:42:37,627 --> 01:42:39,620
bringing back to the side.

2977
01:42:39,620 --> 01:42:42,662
It's not as impactful as what

2978
01:42:43,299 --> 01:42:44,234
once was with for. That's very

2979
01:42:44,234 --> 01:42:47,834
tough bench to hit the head

2980
01:42:48,204 --> 01:42:48,905
6,000 employees that time.

2981
01:42:48,905 --> 01:42:49,539
When we left, the originally

2982
01:42:49,539 --> 01:42:52,539
came in that that they're

2983
01:42:53,176 --> 01:42:54,100
going to be around 2.50, 300.

2984
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:54,711
They're now closer to 1000 the

2985
01:42:54,711 --> 01:42:57,460
full build out of this entire

2986
01:42:57,460 --> 01:42:59,115
site was actually amazing

2987
01:42:59,115 --> 01:43:00,950
thing in this job or

2988
01:43:00,950 --> 01:43:02,652
development itself is around

2989
01:43:02,652 --> 01:43:03,453
350 of that. And those are

2990
01:43:03,453 --> 01:43:05,853
manufacturing jobs, which of

2991
01:43:07,230 --> 01:43:09,225
those things we don't see very

2992
01:43:09,225 --> 01:43:11,940
often and so I'm very

2993
01:43:11,940 --> 01:43:11,795
supportive of this proposal

2994
01:43:11,795 --> 01:43:12,428
because it is helping out the

2995
01:43:12,428 --> 01:43:13,163
residents and on the side

2996
01:43:13,163 --> 01:43:15,532
helping out the things that we

2997
01:43:15,532 --> 01:43:19,132
need to do and redevelop some

2998
01:43:19,135 --> 01:43:20,471
of these old brownfield sites

2999
01:43:20,471 --> 01:43:22,500
from my understanding, you

3000
01:43:22,500 --> 01:43:23,606
know, watching back the video

3001
01:43:23,606 --> 01:43:26,606
just going through some points

3002
01:43:26,677 --> 01:43:28,946
that I wish I could have to

3003
01:43:28,946 --> 01:43:29,613
explain the commitments of

3004
01:43:29,613 --> 01:43:31,548
benefits and where this is

3005
01:43:31,548 --> 01:43:34,830
impactful for. And so, you

3006
01:43:34,830 --> 01:43:34,818
know, that's it's split into 2

3007
01:43:34,818 --> 01:43:35,486
buckets of where those dollars

3008
01:43:35,486 --> 01:43:37,687
to go in. One bucket is the

3009
01:43:37,687 --> 01:43:38,389
pending trail. So the site

3010
01:43:38,389 --> 01:43:41,389
essentially sits on top right

3011
01:43:43,327 --> 01:43:44,428
below the pens, the trail 90

3012
01:43:44,428 --> 01:43:45,563
percent of the dollars go

3013
01:43:45,563 --> 01:43:47,264
towards the Penske trail

3014
01:43:47,264 --> 01:43:48,650
towards improvements and

3015
01:43:48,650 --> 01:43:50,650
infrastructure. There. And

3016
01:43:50,802 --> 01:43:53,202
then there's $10,000 that I

3017
01:43:55,239 --> 01:43:58,239
asked sent to the Cumberland.

3018
01:43:59,176 --> 01:43:59,844
Cdc and why that is is because

3019
01:43:59,844 --> 01:44:02,844
earlier with the same site

3020
01:44:03,514 --> 01:44:04,181
with the Thunderbirds site, we

3021
01:44:04,181 --> 01:44:06,181
appropriated $50,000 to the

3022
01:44:08,252 --> 01:44:08,986
Cumberland cdc to help with a

3023
01:44:08,986 --> 01:44:09,587
design plan and market

3024
01:44:09,587 --> 01:44:11,987
analysis. Study on the

3025
01:44:13,900 --> 01:44:13,991
Washington Square Mall. So

3026
01:44:13,991 --> 01:44:16,260
you'll heard me talk a million

3027
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:17,194
times about how Washington on

3028
01:44:17,194 --> 01:44:17,862
my district. We've got to do

3029
01:44:17,862 --> 01:44:20,862
something about it. And so

3030
01:44:20,998 --> 01:44:21,966
since MARCH of this year,

3031
01:44:21,966 --> 01:44:24,366
we've been doing redevelopment

3032
01:44:24,602 --> 01:44:27,602
plan on that mall with

3033
01:44:27,671 --> 01:44:30,671
partners from Louth as the

3034
01:44:31,475 --> 01:44:32,243
sponsors Far East Side

3035
01:44:32,243 --> 01:44:33,430
Community Council. My so

3036
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:35,430
Cumberland Schmidt Associates

3037
01:44:36,648 --> 01:44:37,849
is the architect firm on it.

3038
01:44:37,849 --> 01:44:38,682
And then you ally approached

3039
01:44:38,682 --> 01:44:39,985
me and said, hey, we would

3040
01:44:39,985 --> 01:44:40,619
love to be a part of this. And

3041
01:44:40,619 --> 01:44:43,421
we have this thing that's

3042
01:44:43,421 --> 01:44:44,289
called a tap program and which

3043
01:44:44,289 --> 01:44:47,289
they bring experts in the

3044
01:44:47,625 --> 01:44:48,460
field into a two-day study.

3045
01:44:48,460 --> 01:44:50,295
And recently the Grassy Creek

3046
01:44:50,295 --> 01:44:53,398
trail was opened up just north

3047
01:44:53,398 --> 01:44:56,201
of my district. And that is

3048
01:44:56,201 --> 01:44:57,702
slated to head head straight

3049
01:44:57,702 --> 01:45:01,573
down to the pens, a trail with

3050
01:45:01,573 --> 01:45:02,774
intially over the years. And

3051
01:45:02,774 --> 01:45:04,676
what the you ally and what

3052
01:45:04,676 --> 01:45:07,613
we've been talking about is

3053
01:45:07,613 --> 01:45:08,413
how can we actually create a

3054
01:45:08,413 --> 01:45:09,147
bridge over Washington Street

3055
01:45:09,147 --> 01:45:10,820
and show what that development

3056
01:45:10,820 --> 01:45:12,984
would look like? The cost of

3057
01:45:12,984 --> 01:45:13,685
that development to have plans

3058
01:45:13,685 --> 01:45:16,685
through you ally. And that's

3059
01:45:16,888 --> 01:45:18,890
what that $10,000 intended for

3060
01:45:18,890 --> 01:45:20,325
from this. And so that that is

3061
01:45:20,325 --> 01:45:21,920
a big part of the vision for

3062
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,920
the east side of Indianapolis

3063
01:45:24,763 --> 01:45:26,698
to help with the connectivity.

3064
01:45:26,698 --> 01:45:27,399
This makes that possible with

3065
01:45:27,399 --> 01:45:28,330
the community impact payment

3066
01:45:28,330 --> 01:45:29,668
majority that stays right

3067
01:45:29,668 --> 01:45:30,902
there on the trail that exist.

3068
01:45:30,902 --> 01:45:32,771
But we do want to try and do

3069
01:45:32,771 --> 01:45:33,438
some future planning to help

3070
01:45:33,438 --> 01:45:35,207
make that site more

3071
01:45:35,207 --> 01:45:36,942
attractive. That so much on.

3072
01:45:36,942 --> 01:45:37,676
So MADAM PRESIDENT, that's the

3073
01:45:37,676 --> 01:45:40,847
details here. And as a result,

3074
01:45:40,847 --> 01:45:42,814
I believe that the concerns

3075
01:45:42,814 --> 01:45:43,381
expressed at the committee

3076
01:45:43,381 --> 01:45:45,484
meeting by my fellow

3077
01:45:45,484 --> 01:45:47,484
councilors have been

3078
01:45:47,687 --> 01:45:48,521
addressed. I've talked to this

3079
01:45:48,521 --> 01:45:49,821
is a minority leader since

3080
01:45:49,821 --> 01:45:50,790
then expend a lot of this a

3081
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:54,390
whole lot more detail, as I

3082
01:45:54,460 --> 01:45:55,193
say for the evening at a time.

3083
01:45:55,193 --> 01:45:57,797
So therefore move for adoption

3084
01:45:57,797 --> 01:45:59,499
of the proposal. One, 64 2026

3085
01:45:59,499 --> 01:46:00,199
cancer. Can I stop you before

3086
01:46:00,199 --> 01:46:00,833
you make your motion? MISTER

3087
01:46:00,833 --> 01:46:02,468
CHAIRMAN Kenny Withdrawal

3088
01:46:02,468 --> 01:46:04,868
Year? Original motion. Sorry

3089
01:46:05,371 --> 01:46:05,972
cancer. Thank you, MADAM

3090
01:46:05,972 --> 01:46:08,372
PRESIDENT, I'm happy to

3091
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:10,343
Israel. Thank you. So

3092
01:46:10,343 --> 01:46:12,478
therefore, I move for adoption

3093
01:46:12,478 --> 01:46:13,513
of proposal. Number one, 64

3094
01:46:13,513 --> 01:46:15,913
2026. We have answer any

3095
01:46:17,517 --> 01:46:19,850
questions. And with Emotion

3096
01:46:19,850 --> 01:46:21,954
that in a second comments from

3097
01:46:21,954 --> 01:46:24,354
cancer assistant him out.

3098
01:46:24,624 --> 01:46:25,291
We'll Thank you, MADAM

3099
01:46:25,291 --> 01:46:26,793
PRESIDENT and colleagues. I

3100
01:46:26,793 --> 01:46:27,895
appreciate conversation

3101
01:46:27,895 --> 01:46:30,895
tonight. We had a robust

3102
01:46:31,697 --> 01:46:32,365
conversation and dc about the

3103
01:46:32,365 --> 01:46:34,700
specific property. I think

3104
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:35,368
it's a amazing development. I

3105
01:46:35,368 --> 01:46:35,903
think it emphasizes

3106
01:46:35,903 --> 01:46:37,903
specifically at the

3107
01:46:38,304 --> 01:46:39,439
Thunderbird site. There were.

3108
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,107
We're seeing a lot of positive

3109
01:46:41,107 --> 01:46:42,740
development going. They're not

3110
01:46:42,740 --> 01:46:44,710
really having the challenge is

3111
01:46:44,710 --> 01:46:45,778
to develop that site. The kind

3112
01:46:45,778 --> 01:46:46,412
of exist another industrial

3113
01:46:46,412 --> 01:46:48,812
area. Some weather that's

3114
01:46:50,483 --> 01:46:51,318
being recognized had really

3115
01:46:51,318 --> 01:46:52,552
good conversations with the

3116
01:46:52,552 --> 01:46:53,219
developer and the company. You

3117
01:46:53,219 --> 01:46:56,189
know, one of the one of the

3118
01:46:56,189 --> 01:46:57,291
concerns that I had was well,

3119
01:46:57,291 --> 01:46:58,580
that's a great development for

3120
01:46:58,580 --> 01:46:59,659
this. I want to make sure that

3121
01:46:59,659 --> 01:47:00,828
the benefits that are being

3122
01:47:00,828 --> 01:47:02,662
generated at the sites are

3123
01:47:02,662 --> 01:47:04,698
seen in the neighborhoods

3124
01:47:04,698 --> 01:47:05,398
where the development is

3125
01:47:05,398 --> 01:47:06,650
actually happening. And so I

3126
01:47:06,650 --> 01:47:06,767
think we're able to achieve

3127
01:47:06,767 --> 01:47:09,680
that goal. But I think as we

3128
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:10,537
look to the future, we seem to

3129
01:47:10,537 --> 01:47:12,406
continue to be mindful,

3130
01:47:12,406 --> 01:47:14,406
obviously, we're respecting

3131
01:47:14,408 --> 01:47:15,108
counselor discretion, but also

3132
01:47:15,108 --> 01:47:16,610
just continue to collaborate

3133
01:47:16,610 --> 01:47:17,177
work on that. I do appreciate

3134
01:47:17,177 --> 01:47:19,513
council heart for the

3135
01:47:19,513 --> 01:47:20,547
conversation in doing that. So

3136
01:47:20,547 --> 01:47:21,415
I'll be supporting the

3137
01:47:21,415 --> 01:47:23,815
proposal. One 64 this evening

3138
01:47:23,884 --> 01:47:24,686
and asked my colleagues to say

3139
01:47:24,686 --> 01:47:27,860
thank you, comments regarding

3140
01:47:27,721 --> 01:47:28,355
proposal. One 64. Seeing no

3141
01:47:28,355 --> 01:47:32,555
per se to the board for a

3142
01:47:38,665 --> 01:47:40,400
vote. The proposal carries a

3143
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:41,768
24 to 0 the next item on our

3144
01:47:41,768 --> 01:47:44,168
agenda proposal. Number one,

3145
01:47:45,906 --> 01:47:47,906
65 CHAIRMAN. Mostly. Thank

3146
01:47:50,111 --> 01:47:52,511
you. MADAM PRESIDENT. With

3147
01:47:52,546 --> 01:47:53,581
consent. I would not now like

3148
01:47:53,581 --> 01:47:55,981
to take opposing members 1, 6,

3149
01:47:57,251 --> 01:47:59,251
5, 1, 7, 7, And 1, 7, 9, 3, 1,

3150
01:48:03,857 --> 01:48:05,857
8, 6, together. Please Does

3151
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:09,830
everyone sure about with that?

3152
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:11,830
Proposal? Number 1, 6, 5,

3153
01:48:13,768 --> 01:48:14,968
approves a pilot for project

3154
01:48:14,968 --> 01:48:16,400
entitled Rebuilding The

3155
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,404
Village located at 59. 35 West

3156
01:48:20,475 --> 01:48:22,644
56th Street. Proposal. Number

3157
01:48:22,644 --> 01:48:23,311
1, 6, 6, approves a pilot for

3158
01:48:23,311 --> 01:48:25,311
project Entitle Laurelwood

3159
01:48:27,148 --> 01:48:29,500
Apartments. Around terrace

3160
01:48:29,500 --> 01:48:31,500
located at 33 40 Teakwood

3161
01:48:31,853 --> 01:48:33,853
Drive 14. 55 South Bancroft

3162
01:48:34,589 --> 01:48:36,989
Street and 13. 27 Riley place.

3163
01:48:38,193 --> 01:48:39,894
Proposal. Number 1, 6, 7,

3164
01:48:39,894 --> 01:48:42,697
Approves a pilot for project

3165
01:48:42,697 --> 01:48:43,431
entitled Kind of Commons.

3166
01:48:43,431 --> 01:48:45,600
Phase 2 located at 28, 80 East

3167
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,600
Hannah Avenue. Proposal.

3168
01:48:49,404 --> 01:48:50,104
Number 1, 6, 8, 2026 approves

3169
01:48:50,104 --> 01:48:53,104
a pilot for project entitled

3170
01:48:53,308 --> 01:48:55,577
The Holcombe. Located at 15.

3171
01:48:55,577 --> 01:48:57,879
45 Van Buren Street. Opposed

3172
01:48:57,879 --> 01:48:59,879
number 1, 6, 9, approves a

3173
01:49:00,582 --> 01:49:01,583
pilot for project entitled

3174
01:49:01,583 --> 01:49:03,583
Emerson Place Apartments

3175
01:49:07,223 --> 01:49:09,623
located at 21 10. No place.

3176
01:49:11,726 --> 01:49:12,628
Proposal. Number 1, 7, 1, 70.

3177
01:49:12,628 --> 01:49:13,895
Approves. A pilot for project

3178
01:49:13,895 --> 01:49:15,698
entitled Hope Side. Senior

3179
01:49:15,698 --> 01:49:17,698
Housing located 1915, 2005

3180
01:49:18,990 --> 01:49:20,499
East, 25th Street. Proposal.

3181
01:49:22,710 --> 01:49:22,937
Number 1, 7, 1, oppose a pilot

3182
01:49:22,937 --> 01:49:23,705
for project entitled Twin

3183
01:49:23,705 --> 01:49:26,105
Hills and Blackcurrant Harris

3184
01:49:27,543 --> 01:49:30,543
located at 20 to 10 East 36th

3185
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,880
Street 30 91 Baltimore Avenue.

3186
01:49:34,817 --> 01:49:35,718
And 30 38 Hillside Avenue.

3187
01:49:35,718 --> 01:49:37,718
Proposal. Number 1, 7,

3188
01:49:37,753 --> 01:49:39,989
approves a pilot for project

3189
01:49:39,989 --> 01:49:40,623
entitled Judas, Senior Village

3190
01:49:40,623 --> 01:49:42,623
located at 39. 69 Meadows

3191
01:49:42,958 --> 01:49:45,358
Drive. Proposal. Number one,

3192
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,428
73. Approves a pilot for

3193
01:49:49,765 --> 01:49:51,100
project entitled Life Village

3194
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:53,100
located at 32 19 Orchard

3195
01:49:53,737 --> 01:49:55,737
Avenue in 1927, 1946. In 1950,

3196
01:49:56,872 --> 01:49:59,872
East 32nd Street. The Bulls

3197
01:50:00,876 --> 01:50:02,876
number 1, 7, 4, Approves. A

3198
01:50:02,912 --> 01:50:05,912
pilot project entitled Ritz on

3199
01:50:06,215 --> 01:50:08,215
Illinois, located at 34 0, 4,

3200
01:50:09,385 --> 01:50:11,385
34 32 34 34 34 38 and 34 44

3201
01:50:13,923 --> 01:50:14,824
North Illinois Street. But

3202
01:50:14,824 --> 01:50:15,991
number 1, 7, 5, approves a

3203
01:50:15,991 --> 01:50:17,293
pilot for project entitled The

3204
01:50:17,293 --> 01:50:19,693
Drink Apartments located at

3205
01:50:20,729 --> 01:50:21,965
30, 60 North Korean Street.

3206
01:50:21,965 --> 01:50:23,432
Proposal. Number 1, 7, 6, up.

3207
01:50:23,432 --> 01:50:24,868
It was a part of her project

3208
01:50:24,868 --> 01:50:27,268
entitled Beachwood Gardens and

3209
01:50:27,537 --> 01:50:29,271
Hawthorne Place located at 29

3210
01:50:29,271 --> 01:50:30,172
15, North Graham Avenue and

3211
01:50:30,172 --> 01:50:32,572
52. 44 East, 5th East 32nd

3212
01:50:32,641 --> 01:50:34,641
Street. Proposal. Number 1, 7,

3213
01:50:37,247 --> 01:50:37,814
7, was a pilot for project

3214
01:50:37,814 --> 01:50:39,814
entitled Cornerstone

3215
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,160
Apartments located 38 0, 2,

3216
01:50:43,553 --> 01:50:44,488
And 38 10 North Franklin Road.

3217
01:50:44,488 --> 01:50:45,222
Proposal. Number 1, 7, 9, a

3218
01:50:45,222 --> 01:50:47,622
pilot for project entitled

3219
01:50:48,325 --> 01:50:48,959
Grassy Creek Commons located

3220
01:50:48,959 --> 01:50:51,359
at 36. 0, 1, north of the

3221
01:50:52,896 --> 01:50:54,164
middle road. Proposal. Number

3222
01:50:54,164 --> 01:50:56,660
1, 8, 0, That was a pilot for

3223
01:50:56,660 --> 01:50:58,466
project entitled Union at

3224
01:50:59,669 --> 01:51:01,669
Astor located at 14. 37 15, 30

3225
01:51:05,675 --> 01:51:07,410
15. 33. C street. 14. 22 15 28

3226
01:51:07,410 --> 01:51:09,713
Esther Street and to 19,

3227
01:51:09,713 --> 01:51:11,713
Colleen Street. Proposal.

3228
01:51:13,784 --> 01:51:15,552
Number 1, 1, approves a pilot

3229
01:51:15,552 --> 01:51:16,253
for Project entitled Bakery

3230
01:51:16,253 --> 01:51:18,653
Living located at 13. 31 East

3231
01:51:19,723 --> 01:51:20,423
Washington street. Lows in the

3232
01:51:20,423 --> 01:51:22,159
morning to approve pilot for

3233
01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:23,994
project entitled Sherman Lofts

3234
01:51:23,994 --> 01:51:25,994
located at 37. 37 East

3235
01:51:28,665 --> 01:51:29,666
Washington Street. Proposal.

3236
01:51:29,666 --> 01:51:31,666
Number 1, 8, 3, 2026 approves

3237
01:51:33,690 --> 01:51:33,837
a pilot for project entitled.

3238
01:51:33,837 --> 01:51:35,837
Washington State located 17.

3239
01:51:36,573 --> 01:51:38,573
0, 1, I'm sorry, 17 2 and 17.

3240
01:51:40,243 --> 01:51:42,243
26 East Washington street. 12,

3241
01:51:42,712 --> 01:51:44,712
16 20 north Wolcott Street.

3242
01:51:44,815 --> 01:51:47,215
And 50 north Senate haven't.

3243
01:51:47,385 --> 01:51:48,485
Proposal number one in 4. Was

3244
01:51:48,485 --> 01:51:51,485
a pilot for project entitled

3245
01:51:53,124 --> 01:51:55,524
him. 22 south located at 17

3246
01:51:55,693 --> 01:51:58,930
22nd Street opposed number 1,

3247
01:51:58,863 --> 01:51:59,864
8, 5, was a pilot for project

3248
01:51:59,864 --> 01:52:01,864
entitled 16 Parc Apartments

3249
01:52:03,901 --> 01:52:06,301
located at 16. 21 North Park.

3250
01:52:07,305 --> 01:52:09,305
10 61 16 0, 4 Broadway Street

3251
01:52:10,141 --> 01:52:13,141
and 5.46 East 17th street. And

3252
01:52:14,412 --> 01:52:15,113
proposal. Number 1, 8, 6,

3253
01:52:15,113 --> 01:52:18,149
approves a punt for a project

3254
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:18,749
entitled Damian Center, Psh.

3255
01:52:18,749 --> 01:52:20,749
Located at 14. 38 East

3256
01:52:21,953 --> 01:52:22,920
Washington Street. The

3257
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:23,621
proposals passed out of

3258
01:52:23,621 --> 01:52:27,221
committee by a vote of 10 to

3259
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:30,261
0. MADAM PRESIDENT. I some the

3260
01:52:30,261 --> 01:52:30,928
most been properly moved. And

3261
01:52:30,928 --> 01:52:33,328
second other comments from

3262
01:52:34,465 --> 01:52:36,865
counselors. Sandra, proceed to

3263
01:52:42,974 --> 01:52:44,842
the board for votes. The

3264
01:52:44,842 --> 01:52:47,242
proposal care proposals carry

3265
01:52:48,450 --> 01:52:49,460
24 to 0. The next item on our

3266
01:52:49,460 --> 01:52:49,747
agenda proposal. Number one,

3267
01:52:49,747 --> 01:52:50,748
18, I refer to public safety

3268
01:52:50,748 --> 01:52:51,416
and criminal Justice

3269
01:52:51,416 --> 01:52:53,816
Committee. The system Chair

3270
01:52:56,655 --> 01:52:57,655
Alan. Thank you. MADAM

3271
01:52:57,655 --> 01:53:00,550
PRESIDENT proposal member when

3272
01:53:01,192 --> 01:53:01,859
a team at 2026 amends Section

3273
01:53:01,859 --> 01:53:03,859
3, 8, 1, dash, 103, of the

3274
01:53:05,764 --> 01:53:06,765
code to require the curfew

3275
01:53:06,765 --> 01:53:09,165
ordinance anyone 17 years of

3276
01:53:10,170 --> 01:53:11,669
age and below do pass as a

3277
01:53:11,669 --> 01:53:14,669
maid. As Amanda add up

3278
01:53:17,309 --> 01:53:18,100
committee 7 to 4 so moved. The

3279
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:18,710
most has been properly moved.

3280
01:53:18,710 --> 01:53:21,413
And second and other comments

3281
01:53:21,413 --> 01:53:23,813
will counselors cancer heart?

3282
01:53:25,884 --> 01:53:27,719
Thank you. MADAM Chair, this

3283
01:53:27,719 --> 01:53:28,454
is a proposal that was given

3284
01:53:28,454 --> 01:53:30,657
to me by by the public. They

3285
01:53:30,657 --> 01:53:33,492
raised awareness after we had

3286
01:53:33,492 --> 01:53:34,920
our first vote on the public

3287
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,461
safety curfew hours and

3288
01:53:35,461 --> 01:53:37,629
essentially just bring it

3289
01:53:37,629 --> 01:53:39,640
back. And they brought to my

3290
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:39,765
attention that 17 year-olds

3291
01:53:39,765 --> 01:53:43,169
were concluded. And so I went

3292
01:53:43,169 --> 01:53:44,360
I looked at the at the

3293
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:45,300
ordinance and sure it was it

3294
01:53:45,300 --> 01:53:47,500
was true, right? They were not

3295
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:47,706
included. And so as I got to

3296
01:53:47,706 --> 01:53:48,340
looking doing more research,

3297
01:53:48,340 --> 01:53:51,710
one of the things that I

3298
01:53:51,710 --> 01:53:52,511
discovered is that the first

3299
01:53:52,511 --> 01:53:55,511
homicide victim of the year

3300
01:53:58,184 --> 01:53:59,418
was a juvenile aged 17 past

3301
01:53:59,418 --> 01:54:01,287
curfew hours. And, you know, I

3302
01:54:01,287 --> 01:54:02,654
thought the argument that

3303
01:54:02,654 --> 01:54:03,755
given to me is that, you know,

3304
01:54:03,755 --> 01:54:06,325
a very good one that juveniles

3305
01:54:06,325 --> 01:54:08,561
at the age of 17 are still

3306
01:54:08,561 --> 01:54:09,595
juveniles right? The point of

3307
01:54:09,595 --> 01:54:10,463
this proposal, even with the

3308
01:54:10,463 --> 01:54:12,898
public's a few hours or any

3309
01:54:12,898 --> 01:54:13,566
group curfew hours given that

3310
01:54:13,566 --> 01:54:15,934
isn't just start going and

3311
01:54:15,934 --> 01:54:18,700
taking kids off the street. We

3312
01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:19,720
heard a lot of I think good

3313
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:19,739
arguments that evening, one of

3314
01:54:19,739 --> 01:54:23,309
which from was the chief of

3315
01:54:23,309 --> 01:54:24,377
police telling us how just by

3316
01:54:24,377 --> 01:54:25,112
proposing this and having the

3317
01:54:25,112 --> 01:54:25,845
conversation and maybe there's

3318
01:54:25,845 --> 01:54:27,514
one or 2 or more conversations

3319
01:54:27,514 --> 01:54:29,282
that happened that evening at

3320
01:54:29,282 --> 01:54:31,351
home would be a positive

3321
01:54:31,351 --> 01:54:31,985
thing. So even if we get that

3322
01:54:31,985 --> 01:54:33,586
minimum accomplished that

3323
01:54:33,586 --> 01:54:36,523
tonight, that's a good thing.

3324
01:54:36,523 --> 01:54:38,525
But it's also about the

3325
01:54:38,525 --> 01:54:39,726
protections that are already

3326
01:54:39,726 --> 01:54:40,493
afforded juveniles are doing

3327
01:54:40,493 --> 01:54:42,428
the right thing, right? Folks

3328
01:54:42,428 --> 01:54:43,163
that are going to work doing

3329
01:54:43,163 --> 01:54:45,563
activities. This doesn't apply

3330
01:54:46,990 --> 01:54:46,833
to them right. This is

3331
01:54:46,833 --> 01:54:48,201
effectively given the tools to

3332
01:54:48,201 --> 01:54:49,903
the officers and making sure

3333
01:54:49,903 --> 01:54:52,405
that we're we're we're given

3334
01:54:52,405 --> 01:54:54,674
that ability to have that

3335
01:54:54,674 --> 01:54:57,740
level accountability. I still

3336
01:54:58,411 --> 01:55:00,281
think we have work to do is on

3337
01:55:00,281 --> 01:55:02,480
proposals that we still have

3338
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:02,749
table here. I don't think this

3339
01:55:02,749 --> 01:55:04,718
is going to solve the problem

3340
01:55:04,718 --> 01:55:07,718
of crime in Indianapolis by

3341
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:08,421
itself. I think there's a big

3342
01:55:08,421 --> 01:55:09,880
accountability problem a lot

3343
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:10,858
of different areas. I think

3344
01:55:10,858 --> 01:55:12,892
Preble County ability is one

3345
01:55:12,892 --> 01:55:13,894
of those. And I think the

3346
01:55:13,894 --> 01:55:14,628
biggest opportunity we have at

3347
01:55:14,628 --> 01:55:17,731
this is if there are juveniles

3348
01:55:17,731 --> 01:55:18,665
that end up being picked up by

3349
01:55:18,665 --> 01:55:19,800
the police and they are

3350
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:20,534
brought together with their

3351
01:55:20,534 --> 01:55:22,503
parent that there is a serious

3352
01:55:22,503 --> 01:55:23,637
conversation that happens at

3353
01:55:23,637 --> 01:55:24,804
the time that they are united.

3354
01:55:24,804 --> 01:55:25,539
I think that's the most

3355
01:55:25,539 --> 01:55:28,539
powerful thing that could come

3356
01:55:28,843 --> 01:55:29,610
out of this passing. We've got

3357
01:55:29,610 --> 01:55:30,344
a look at this as an

3358
01:55:30,344 --> 01:55:31,100
opportunity where we just came

3359
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:34,949
off a weekend of the 4th of

3360
01:55:34,949 --> 01:55:37,830
JULY. Beach Cove just south of

3361
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:37,785
my district, juvenile shooting

3362
01:55:37,785 --> 01:55:38,486
guns, right? I mean, I'm not

3363
01:55:38,486 --> 01:55:41,255
here to have a debate on gun,

3364
01:55:41,255 --> 01:55:43,900
we're here to have a debate on

3365
01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:44,658
on curfew and we are having a

3366
01:55:44,658 --> 01:55:45,359
lack of accountability for

3367
01:55:45,359 --> 01:55:48,359
those kids in those parents.

3368
01:55:49,330 --> 01:55:50,431
And this is one step that at a

3369
01:55:50,431 --> 01:55:52,333
minimum, at least connect

3370
01:55:52,333 --> 01:55:53,330
those in that give an

3371
01:55:53,330 --> 01:55:55,433
opportunity. With that, MADAM

3372
01:55:56,137 --> 01:55:56,770
PRESIDENT, I yield my time.

3373
01:55:56,770 --> 01:55:58,770
Additional comments. Will

3374
01:55:59,940 --> 01:56:01,940
counselors. Pastor Brown?

3375
01:56:04,211 --> 01:56:04,879
Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT. I

3376
01:56:04,879 --> 01:56:05,613
just want repeat some of my

3377
01:56:05,613 --> 01:56:06,947
comments from the last time we

3378
01:56:06,947 --> 01:56:08,716
talked about curfew. What

3379
01:56:08,716 --> 01:56:09,350
we're dealing with here is

3380
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:11,652
political theater as the

3381
01:56:11,652 --> 01:56:12,319
council just mentioned. We're

3382
01:56:12,319 --> 01:56:13,754
not talking about guns here

3383
01:56:13,754 --> 01:56:14,789
tonight. We're talking about

3384
01:56:14,789 --> 01:56:16,223
curfew. And yet as soon as

3385
01:56:16,223 --> 01:56:18,623
these kids turn 18, they're

3386
01:56:19,894 --> 01:56:20,594
able to carry ridiculous

3387
01:56:20,594 --> 01:56:21,429
levels of weaponry around

3388
01:56:21,429 --> 01:56:23,864
openly on our streets. Thanks

3389
01:56:23,864 --> 01:56:25,866
to our state super majority.

3390
01:56:25,866 --> 01:56:27,435
I'm in favor of the Second

3391
01:56:27,435 --> 01:56:28,690
Amendment. I'm a pacifist

3392
01:56:28,690 --> 01:56:28,769
personally but think that

3393
01:56:28,769 --> 01:56:31,473
people should have the right

3394
01:56:31,473 --> 01:56:33,575
to bear arms. But when we

3395
01:56:33,575 --> 01:56:34,276
arbitrarily choose someone's

3396
01:56:34,276 --> 01:56:36,430
birthday as the time when all

3397
01:56:36,430 --> 01:56:36,778
the sudden they just have all

3398
01:56:36,778 --> 01:56:39,214
the rights of the world's only

3399
01:56:39,214 --> 01:56:40,182
available to them. I don't

3400
01:56:40,182 --> 01:56:40,849
think that's that's our kids

3401
01:56:40,849 --> 01:56:43,385
up for success. I do think

3402
01:56:43,385 --> 01:56:44,318
that's that's parents up for

3403
01:56:44,318 --> 01:56:45,200
success. No one proposal is

3404
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,200
going to solve every problem

3405
01:56:48,230 --> 01:56:48,557
in the world. I get that. But

3406
01:56:48,557 --> 01:56:50,957
when I'm looking at

3407
01:56:51,993 --> 01:56:52,661
constituents of mine who've

3408
01:56:52,661 --> 01:56:54,129
sat here for hours to make

3409
01:56:54,129 --> 01:56:54,830
sure that there's someone

3410
01:56:54,830 --> 01:56:56,131
looking at our eyes who works

3411
01:56:56,131 --> 01:56:58,300
with children who works with

3412
01:56:58,300 --> 01:56:59,000
the youth, who has told us and

3413
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,203
has testified before when we

3414
01:57:01,203 --> 01:57:01,903
did a public comment that this

3415
01:57:01,903 --> 01:57:04,306
is not the way to go. This is

3416
01:57:04,306 --> 01:57:05,340
not going to help. I think

3417
01:57:05,340 --> 01:57:06,740
someone has to listen to that

3418
01:57:06,740 --> 01:57:07,509
and speak up side. Debra about

3419
01:57:07,509 --> 01:57:10,509
now. Thank you. Thank you.

3420
01:57:12,247 --> 01:57:12,981
Council Roberts. Thank you,

3421
01:57:12,981 --> 01:57:13,782
MADAM PRESIDENT, I just wanted

3422
01:57:13,782 --> 01:57:14,449
to kind of explain my thought

3423
01:57:14,449 --> 01:57:15,984
process giving us a lot of

3424
01:57:15,984 --> 01:57:18,420
thought. Do plan voting for

3425
01:57:18,420 --> 01:57:20,555
it for a few reasons. First

3426
01:57:20,555 --> 01:57:21,857
and foremost, this is yet

3427
01:57:21,857 --> 01:57:22,557
another tool. I think we need

3428
01:57:22,557 --> 01:57:24,993
to be empowered impd with to

3429
01:57:24,993 --> 01:57:25,660
keep our city safe because for

3430
01:57:25,660 --> 01:57:27,129
all of this really for the

3431
01:57:27,129 --> 01:57:30,129
safety of the kids. Obviously,

3432
01:57:31,167 --> 01:57:31,766
we do not want anybody you

3433
01:57:31,766 --> 01:57:33,535
know, unsafe situation

3434
01:57:33,535 --> 01:57:35,470
downtown, where there could be

3435
01:57:35,470 --> 01:57:36,271
potential use guns. And I

3436
01:57:36,271 --> 01:57:38,140
think, you know, you

3437
01:57:38,140 --> 01:57:40,410
highlighted wealth. We could

3438
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:40,676
be and forcing different

3439
01:57:40,676 --> 01:57:41,376
things will be different

3440
01:57:41,376 --> 01:57:43,776
conversation. But the reality

3441
01:57:44,514 --> 01:57:45,180
is it's not the that things

3442
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:47,650
were empowered by the state

3443
01:57:47,650 --> 01:57:49,218
house to actually change. Also

3444
01:57:49,218 --> 01:57:50,153
one point that think about a

3445
01:57:50,153 --> 01:57:53,753
lot is how complex our current

3446
01:57:53,823 --> 01:57:55,792
curfew laws are. They're

3447
01:57:55,792 --> 01:57:56,859
different for people under 14

3448
01:57:56,859 --> 01:57:58,859
different people are 15 16

3449
01:57:59,862 --> 01:58:01,960
different for 17 18. Plus,

3450
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:01,931
obviously that for weekdays

3451
01:58:01,931 --> 01:58:02,832
and weekends and if some

3452
01:58:02,832 --> 01:58:04,801
making up to me and asked me

3453
01:58:04,801 --> 01:58:06,135
to explain the intricacies of

3454
01:58:06,135 --> 01:58:07,837
the days that we can ages, I

3455
01:58:07,837 --> 01:58:08,638
cannot give them the real

3456
01:58:08,638 --> 01:58:09,272
answer little on. I'm sure an

3457
01:58:09,272 --> 01:58:11,274
officer little a child as

3458
01:58:11,274 --> 01:58:12,341
trying to figure it out. So to

3459
01:58:12,341 --> 01:58:15,941
me I trust impd officers will

3460
01:58:18,881 --> 01:58:19,582
have some level of situational

3461
01:58:19,582 --> 01:58:21,284
understanding of of the youth

3462
01:58:21,284 --> 01:58:21,984
and the not try to enforce in

3463
01:58:21,984 --> 01:58:23,190
a bad way. But you think this

3464
01:58:23,190 --> 01:58:24,387
is a step and I do give credit

3465
01:58:24,387 --> 01:58:25,254
for people have worked on this

3466
01:58:25,254 --> 01:58:26,522
because I did check him out on

3467
01:58:26,522 --> 01:58:27,224
a from last year after really

3468
01:58:27,224 --> 01:58:28,958
considering that intricacies

3469
01:58:28,958 --> 01:58:29,625
of the law. Thank you. Thank

3470
01:58:29,625 --> 01:58:31,625
you, counselor. Additional

3471
01:58:34,897 --> 01:58:35,765
comments. Councilor Bank.

3472
01:58:35,765 --> 01:58:37,266
Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

3473
01:58:37,266 --> 01:58:37,934
just want to thank the council

3474
01:58:37,934 --> 01:58:39,969
heart for his leadership on

3475
01:58:39,969 --> 01:58:40,636
this issue and appreciate the

3476
01:58:40,636 --> 01:58:42,972
bipartisan nature in which

3477
01:58:42,972 --> 01:58:44,208
this passed out of committee

3478
01:58:44,208 --> 01:58:45,875
and certainly not my place to

3479
01:58:45,875 --> 01:58:46,944
speak on behalf of the impd

3480
01:58:46,944 --> 01:58:49,980
chief. I think she spoke very

3481
01:58:49,980 --> 01:58:52,980
eloquently about the tough Rip

3482
01:58:54,500 --> 01:58:55,284
officers are facing and

3483
01:58:55,284 --> 01:58:57,620
believe this will be nothing

3484
01:58:57,620 --> 01:58:58,454
more more than a strong tool.

3485
01:58:58,454 --> 01:59:01,454
And there toolbox when they

3486
01:59:02,359 --> 01:59:03,930
come to addressing the severe

3487
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:04,327
issues that we face our city.

3488
01:59:04,327 --> 01:59:05,762
So look forward to supporting

3489
01:59:05,762 --> 01:59:08,162
this tonight. Thank you.

3490
01:59:08,398 --> 01:59:10,398
Additional comments. Cancer

3491
01:59:12,736 --> 01:59:15,136
out. Thank you, MADAM

3492
01:59:16,907 --> 01:59:18,775
PRESIDENT, at. Pretty much

3493
01:59:18,775 --> 01:59:20,100
everyone knows my stance. And

3494
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:21,679
this about adding 17 eur back.

3495
01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:24,781
Can we say that we're using

3496
01:59:24,781 --> 01:59:26,316
that tool? This is one tool

3497
01:59:26,316 --> 01:59:27,217
that does not show that is

3498
01:59:27,217 --> 01:59:28,619
actually data that actually

3499
01:59:28,619 --> 01:59:29,653
words our system that actually

3500
01:59:29,653 --> 01:59:32,653
works. And that's the reason

3501
01:59:33,423 --> 01:59:35,192
why I'm so against it. Why do

3502
01:59:35,192 --> 01:59:36,293
believe in accountability? I

3503
01:59:36,293 --> 01:59:38,228
am a supporter of impd. I do

3504
01:59:38,228 --> 01:59:39,797
believe this is a community

3505
01:59:39,797 --> 01:59:40,497
effort and we're going to

3506
01:59:40,497 --> 01:59:43,497
continue to find ourself here

3507
01:59:44,268 --> 01:59:44,902
in this same plays come the

3508
01:59:44,902 --> 01:59:47,171
come next year. And we're

3509
01:59:47,171 --> 01:59:47,871
going to be having this same

3510
01:59:47,871 --> 01:59:50,271
discussion because we haven't

3511
01:59:50,808 --> 01:59:51,509
came up with it. Something

3512
01:59:51,509 --> 01:59:54,612
that actually works. So if we

3513
01:59:54,612 --> 01:59:55,279
want to do something, we have

3514
01:59:55,279 --> 01:59:55,979
to make sure that if we're

3515
01:59:55,979 --> 01:59:58,490
going to talk about something

3516
01:59:58,490 --> 02:00:00,117
say we're gonna use tools, we

3517
02:00:00,117 --> 02:00:02,190
have to make sure that we're

3518
02:00:02,190 --> 02:00:02,686
having conversations and

3519
02:00:02,686 --> 02:00:04,155
making the right investment

3520
02:00:04,155 --> 02:00:04,855
into something that actually

3521
02:00:04,855 --> 02:00:07,292
works. And this is one right

3522
02:00:07,292 --> 02:00:08,625
now that does not work. And I

3523
02:00:08,625 --> 02:00:09,327
encourage my colleagues to not

3524
02:00:09,327 --> 02:00:11,727
support this proposal. Thank

3525
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:17,735
you. Additional comments

3526
02:00:17,735 --> 02:00:21,335
seeing no proceed to the board

3527
02:00:29,130 --> 02:00:32,613
for a vote. The proposal fails

3528
02:00:33,818 --> 02:00:34,519
9 to 15. The next item on our

3529
02:00:34,519 --> 02:00:35,220
agenda proposal. Number one,

3530
02:00:35,220 --> 02:00:36,387
90 refer to public safety and

3531
02:00:36,387 --> 02:00:38,387
criminal Justice Committee.

3532
02:00:39,224 --> 02:00:41,920
Assistant Chair Alan MADAM

3533
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:42,927
Chair. Thank you. MADAM.

3534
02:00:42,927 --> 02:00:44,927
PRESIDENT Proposal, number

3535
02:00:45,290 --> 02:00:46,364
one, 92,026 directs the city

3536
02:00:46,364 --> 02:00:49,364
county to require changes to

3537
02:00:51,136 --> 02:00:51,736
the Office Public Health and

3538
02:00:51,736 --> 02:00:53,938
Safety. After the added

3539
02:00:53,938 --> 02:00:54,906
completed by the office of it

3540
02:00:54,906 --> 02:00:55,507
and performance do pass as it

3541
02:00:55,507 --> 02:00:58,507
made a motion to divide

3542
02:00:58,677 --> 02:00:59,377
question, went through for

3543
02:00:59,377 --> 02:01:02,377
passed out of committee 6 to

3544
02:01:04,949 --> 02:01:07,349
5. And Phil question number 5

3545
02:01:07,752 --> 02:01:10,152
boat. 47, which failed so

3546
02:01:10,555 --> 02:01:12,555
MADAM PRESIDENT.

3547
02:01:19,765 --> 02:01:20,465
Yes, MADAM PRESIDENT. Got a

3548
02:01:20,465 --> 02:01:22,700
motion on my desk and there's

3549
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:25,100
just a motion made.

3550
02:01:29,574 --> 02:01:30,976
council. She's area made the

3551
02:01:30,976 --> 02:01:33,712
motion and are read the

3552
02:01:33,712 --> 02:01:34,413
minutes as as it's already

3553
02:01:34,413 --> 02:01:35,470
separated. Do we still needed

3554
02:01:35,470 --> 02:01:37,447
to motion says separated

3555
02:01:39,151 --> 02:01:39,852
situation. Read it. I think

3556
02:01:39,852 --> 02:01:41,587
you still need to do a motion

3557
02:01:41,587 --> 02:01:44,457
to set aside. The separated

3558
02:01:44,457 --> 02:01:46,457
into body

3559
02:01:50,529 --> 02:01:51,130
MADAM PRESIDENT of the Public

3560
02:01:51,130 --> 02:01:52,565
Safety Criminal Justice

3561
02:01:52,565 --> 02:01:53,232
Committee on JUNE 10, 2026.

3562
02:01:53,232 --> 02:01:55,768
The committee voted by the

3563
02:01:55,768 --> 02:01:57,703
question with regard to

3564
02:01:57,703 --> 02:01:58,838
proposal one 90 2026. Like to

3565
02:01:58,838 --> 02:02:00,500
again move to divide the

3566
02:02:00,500 --> 02:02:00,773
question regarding proposal

3567
02:02:00,773 --> 02:02:02,773
one 90 2026 into 2 separate

3568
02:02:07,446 --> 02:02:08,113
votes as follows question one

3569
02:02:08,113 --> 02:02:08,814
which approves sections one

3570
02:02:08,814 --> 02:02:10,814
through 4 proposal. Number

3571
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,160
one, 90 2026. And question

3572
02:02:14,386 --> 02:02:16,786
too, which approves section 5

3573
02:02:19,925 --> 02:02:21,461
proposal. Number one, 90 2026.

3574
02:02:21,461 --> 02:02:22,620
MADAM PRESIDENT. The reason

3575
02:02:22,620 --> 02:02:22,728
that we've divided this

3576
02:02:22,728 --> 02:02:25,728
question is after debate in

3577
02:02:27,333 --> 02:02:29,335
committee there was there was

3578
02:02:29,335 --> 02:02:30,436
there was support for holding

3579
02:02:30,436 --> 02:02:33,500
having the impacts phs of

3580
02:02:33,500 --> 02:02:34,173
coming back and having

3581
02:02:34,173 --> 02:02:34,840
additional reporting

3582
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:35,708
requirements and things of

3583
02:02:35,708 --> 02:02:37,610
that nature of sections, one

3584
02:02:37,610 --> 02:02:40,610
through 4, which is what that

3585
02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:41,680
accomplish. And then Section 2

3586
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:44,751
was a punitive portion that I

3587
02:02:44,751 --> 02:02:45,485
had written to the proposal

3588
02:02:45,485 --> 02:02:46,152
that would withhold funding if

3589
02:02:46,152 --> 02:02:46,886
they did not do any of the

3590
02:02:46,886 --> 02:02:48,355
sections. One through 4. And

3591
02:02:48,355 --> 02:02:50,755
that's why these that 2

3592
02:02:51,992 --> 02:02:54,161
questions were divided to have

3593
02:02:54,161 --> 02:02:56,196
One through 4 for question one

3594
02:02:56,196 --> 02:02:58,298
and section question to for

3595
02:02:58,298 --> 02:02:59,320
Section 5. So that's why I

3596
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:02,632
decided to move to divide this

3597
02:03:04,237 --> 02:03:04,971
question. MADAM PRESIDENT. The

3598
02:03:04,971 --> 02:03:05,871
motion properly moved seconded

3599
02:03:05,871 --> 02:03:06,573
to divide the questions.

3600
02:03:06,573 --> 02:03:08,973
Comments regarding the motion

3601
02:03:13,130 --> 02:03:13,680
on the floor. Castor Brown.

3602
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:14,314
Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT.

3603
02:03:14,314 --> 02:03:17,314
Sorry, I'm talking a lot

3604
02:03:19,452 --> 02:03:20,520
tonight. I'm fine with the

3605
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:21,188
motion by the question. This

3606
02:03:21,188 --> 02:03:22,155
makes sense. I just want to

3607
02:03:22,155 --> 02:03:23,224
take this opportunity to point

3608
02:03:23,224 --> 02:03:26,224
out, you know, sections want,

3609
02:03:27,527 --> 02:03:28,762
therefore think. Received a

3610
02:03:28,762 --> 02:03:30,197
fair amount of support. And I

3611
02:03:30,197 --> 02:03:30,897
think it's calling for extra

3612
02:03:30,897 --> 02:03:31,565
accountability and calling to

3613
02:03:31,565 --> 02:03:34,434
make sure the ethical rules

3614
02:03:34,434 --> 02:03:35,670
and standards are followed.

3615
02:03:35,670 --> 02:03:36,636
You know, I think that makes

3616
02:03:36,636 --> 02:03:37,370
sense. Even if a phs is doing

3617
02:03:37,370 --> 02:03:40,970
great work, which I think they

3618
02:03:41,308 --> 02:03:42,242
mostly are. I just wanted to

3619
02:03:42,242 --> 02:03:43,510
point out difference between

3620
02:03:43,510 --> 02:03:44,144
how we're treating this

3621
02:03:44,144 --> 02:03:46,544
department and how we're

3622
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:48,548
treating, for example, the

3623
02:03:48,548 --> 02:03:50,548
other relationship with

3624
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:51,618
American structure point that

3625
02:03:51,618 --> 02:03:53,587
Mayor Indian IndyStar

3626
02:03:53,587 --> 02:03:56,587
highlighted and how much of

3627
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:58,240
dpw funding is going to

3628
02:03:58,240 --> 02:03:58,759
character 3 to enrich people

3629
02:03:58,759 --> 02:04:02,359
who then turn around and give

3630
02:04:02,896 --> 02:04:03,597
large donations to the mayor.

3631
02:04:03,597 --> 02:04:05,599
Yeah, we just had the public

3632
02:04:05,599 --> 02:04:07,602
hearing a few minutes ago

3633
02:04:07,602 --> 02:04:08,935
centered one central question

3634
02:04:08,935 --> 02:04:11,335
was campaign contributions and

3635
02:04:11,339 --> 02:04:12,730
how those impact policy. I

3636
02:04:12,730 --> 02:04:14,942
just find it really noteworthy

3637
02:04:14,942 --> 02:04:17,342
that. We're very concerned

3638
02:04:18,279 --> 02:04:20,348
about ethical issues when it's

3639
02:04:20,348 --> 02:04:21,549
just employees of the

3640
02:04:21,549 --> 02:04:22,282
enterprise who are perhaps,

3641
02:04:22,282 --> 02:04:24,685
you know, not using their best

3642
02:04:24,685 --> 02:04:27,850
judgment. Rather than the

3643
02:04:27,689 --> 02:04:30,625
mayor of our city. I will

3644
02:04:30,625 --> 02:04:31,659
support the motion by the

3645
02:04:31,659 --> 02:04:32,360
question. Then would support

3646
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:33,494
sections went there for a but

3647
02:04:33,494 --> 02:04:34,462
I think that we are sharing

3648
02:04:34,462 --> 02:04:35,296
ourselves. We grants if we

3649
02:04:35,296 --> 02:04:35,997
don't take a stand on the

3650
02:04:35,997 --> 02:04:38,833
larger ethical issues at play

3651
02:04:38,833 --> 02:04:39,934
our city. Thank you. Thank

3652
02:04:39,934 --> 02:04:41,135
you. The additional comments

3653
02:04:41,135 --> 02:04:43,535
regarding the motion Florida's

3654
02:04:46,307 --> 02:04:46,974
separate the question. It will

3655
02:04:46,974 --> 02:04:49,110
proceed to the floor for a

3656
02:04:49,110 --> 02:04:49,744
vote. Select the Green Button

3657
02:04:49,744 --> 02:04:52,744
indicate that you want to

3658
02:04:59,253 --> 02:05:01,653
divide the question. That

3659
02:05:05,726 --> 02:05:08,126
motion fails 9 to 14. Sorry,

3660
02:05:09,397 --> 02:05:11,797
the motion fails 10 to 14

3661
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:14,200
additional comments regarding

3662
02:05:16,672 --> 02:05:17,405
proposal. Number one, 90.

3663
02:05:17,405 --> 02:05:21,500
Seeing no proceed to the board

3664
02:05:21,175 --> 02:05:24,775
for a vote. Sorry. MADAM Clerk

3665
02:05:36,457 --> 02:05:39,457
said one second. I apologize.

3666
02:05:46,268 --> 02:05:47,138
The proposal fails 6 to 18.

3667
02:05:47,138 --> 02:05:47,870
MADAM PRESIDENT on 89

3668
02:05:47,870 --> 02:05:51,600
accident. We vote yes. Want to

3669
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,606
vote no. And of take that.

3670
02:05:57,613 --> 02:05:58,280
Yes, thank you. Manfred said

3671
02:05:58,280 --> 02:05:58,881
we will get that change the

3672
02:05:58,881 --> 02:06:00,516
next item on our agenda

3673
02:06:00,516 --> 02:06:02,516
proposal. Number one, 91

3674
02:06:03,619 --> 02:06:06,190
referred of Public Committee.

3675
02:06:06,555 --> 02:06:08,955
Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT

3676
02:06:09,558 --> 02:06:10,192
Polson number one, 91 2026,

3677
02:06:10,192 --> 02:06:11,593
which authorizes the city

3678
02:06:11,593 --> 02:06:13,593
acting through the

3679
02:06:13,695 --> 02:06:14,863
metropolitan. There are a fair

3680
02:06:14,863 --> 02:06:16,365
district. Marion County, a

3681
02:06:16,365 --> 02:06:18,300
special taxing district

3682
02:06:18,300 --> 02:06:20,700
existing pursuant to ic 3, 6

3683
02:06:21,136 --> 02:06:24,136
dash 9 dash, 6.5 to issue or

3684
02:06:24,139 --> 02:06:27,139
for it refunding Bonds, Ansari

3685
02:06:29,912 --> 02:06:30,646
in an amount to not exceed

3686
02:06:30,646 --> 02:06:31,613
121 million, 15,000 dollars to

3687
02:06:31,613 --> 02:06:33,382
refund any portion of the

3688
02:06:33,382 --> 02:06:35,484
district's outstanding in the

3689
02:06:35,484 --> 02:06:36,118
Rhoads metropolitan for a fair

3690
02:06:36,118 --> 02:06:38,118
district refunding Bonds

3691
02:06:39,210 --> 02:06:39,722
series 2020 be and approves

3692
02:06:39,722 --> 02:06:42,122
and authorizes other actions

3693
02:06:43,459 --> 02:06:44,590
in respect there, too.

3694
02:06:44,590 --> 02:06:46,590
Councilor Gibson moved

3695
02:06:46,361 --> 02:06:47,196
seconded by councilor boots to

3696
02:06:47,196 --> 02:06:49,298
send proposal one 91 2026 to

3697
02:06:49,298 --> 02:06:50,766
the full Council to do pass

3698
02:06:50,766 --> 02:06:51,468
recommendation motion carried

3699
02:06:51,468 --> 02:06:54,838
by a vote of 10 to 0 Madam

3700
02:06:54,838 --> 02:06:55,572
President. I so move the

3701
02:06:55,572 --> 02:06:56,239
motion and probably moved. And

3702
02:06:56,239 --> 02:06:58,639
second other comments from

3703
02:06:59,209 --> 02:07:01,609
counselors. Santa proceed to

3704
02:07:09,152 --> 02:07:12,622
the board for a vote. The

3705
02:07:12,622 --> 02:07:13,756
proposal carries 24 to 0. The

3706
02:07:13,756 --> 02:07:15,859
last item on our agenda

3707
02:07:15,859 --> 02:07:18,259
proposal. Number one, 92 refer

3708
02:07:18,928 --> 02:07:19,662
referred to rules of public

3709
02:07:19,662 --> 02:07:22,620
Policy Committee, assistant Ml

3710
02:07:23,566 --> 02:07:24,267
Nelson. Thank you, MADAM.

3711
02:07:24,267 --> 02:07:26,267
PRESIDENT Proposal, number

3712
02:07:26,536 --> 02:07:27,237
one, 92 revise the chapter

3713
02:07:27,237 --> 02:07:29,639
rise, Chapter one, 21 of the

3714
02:07:29,639 --> 02:07:31,341
code to amend the county's

3715
02:07:31,341 --> 02:07:31,975
excise and we'll taxes and

3716
02:07:31,975 --> 02:07:34,244
establish a new division,

3717
02:07:34,244 --> 02:07:36,846
state and local road funding.

3718
02:07:36,846 --> 02:07:37,480
The proposal passed of the

3719
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:38,214
Rules and Public Policy

3720
02:07:38,214 --> 02:07:41,214
Committee by votes of 73 MADAM

3721
02:07:46,623 --> 02:07:48,124
PRESIDENT. I so move. Thank

3722
02:07:48,124 --> 02:07:50,524
you. MADAM PRESIDENT, members

3723
02:07:51,127 --> 02:07:53,329
of the council and the public.

3724
02:07:53,329 --> 02:07:55,131
This has been a robust

3725
02:07:55,131 --> 02:07:55,732
process. The council took that

3726
02:07:55,732 --> 02:07:57,732
proposal for different

3727
02:07:58,635 --> 02:07:59,270
locations and around our city

3728
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:59,969
constituents, leaders and

3729
02:07:59,969 --> 02:08:01,571
counselors have been able to

3730
02:08:01,571 --> 02:08:03,571
engage in thoughtful

3731
02:08:04,474 --> 02:08:05,342
discussions about how we fully

3732
02:08:05,342 --> 02:08:05,975
recognize the generational

3733
02:08:05,975 --> 02:08:06,609
50 million dollar annual

3734
02:08:06,609 --> 02:08:08,609
infrastructure investment

3735
02:08:10,180 --> 02:08:10,881
investment for our city. This

3736
02:08:10,881 --> 02:08:12,582
funding was made available in

3737
02:08:12,582 --> 02:08:13,850
2025. To House wrote the role

3738
02:08:13,850 --> 02:08:16,850
14 61 after years of hard work

3739
02:08:18,155 --> 02:08:18,823
by many in this room. And in

3740
02:08:18,823 --> 02:08:19,522
this building, appealing to

3741
02:08:19,522 --> 02:08:20,257
state leaders on the need to

3742
02:08:20,257 --> 02:08:22,259
provide fairness and how the

3743
02:08:22,259 --> 02:08:23,327
capital City receives road

3744
02:08:23,327 --> 02:08:23,961
funding and recognizing that

3745
02:08:23,961 --> 02:08:26,961
no level of government is

3746
02:08:27,465 --> 02:08:28,766
doing enough. Earlier this

3747
02:08:28,766 --> 02:08:30,601
year. Senate Rolex one 79 made

3748
02:08:30,601 --> 02:08:31,302
several changes to the

3749
02:08:31,302 --> 02:08:31,969
eligibility and timeline for

3750
02:08:31,969 --> 02:08:34,369
the 50 million that created

3751
02:08:34,405 --> 02:08:35,639
the present reality. To

3752
02:08:35,639 --> 02:08:36,841
receive the investment. The

3753
02:08:36,841 --> 02:08:37,475
city must progressively

3754
02:08:37,475 --> 02:08:39,243
contribute additional new

3755
02:08:39,243 --> 02:08:40,344
revenue toward infrastructure

3756
02:08:40,344 --> 02:08:41,846
next year. We need to find

3757
02:08:41,846 --> 02:08:43,547
50 million to receive

3758
02:08:43,547 --> 02:08:44,215
50 million rising to

3759
02:08:44,215 --> 02:08:46,215
100 million for 50 million

3760
02:08:46,317 --> 02:08:47,718
beginning in 2031. And after

3761
02:08:47,718 --> 02:08:48,686
the provision is all or

3762
02:08:48,686 --> 02:08:51,210
nothing, there's no there are

3763
02:08:51,210 --> 02:08:54,210
no partial matches. We receive

3764
02:08:54,758 --> 02:08:55,459
50 million or $0 and there are

3765
02:08:55,459 --> 02:08:56,160
no mulligans. The first year

3766
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:56,861
we cannot match the funds. We

3767
02:08:56,861 --> 02:08:59,897
are no longer eligible in the

3768
02:08:59,897 --> 02:09:00,598
future. There's also very

3769
02:09:00,598 --> 02:09:02,466
important deadline and that's

3770
02:09:02,466 --> 02:09:03,200
the end of this calendar year

3771
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:04,935
DECEMBER 31st. This is when we

3772
02:09:04,935 --> 02:09:05,536
must communicate of the state.

3773
02:09:05,536 --> 02:09:06,237
We have the funding and

3774
02:09:06,237 --> 02:09:09,730
identify where the funding is

3775
02:09:09,730 --> 02:09:10,374
coming from. As we discussed

3776
02:09:10,374 --> 02:09:11,876
at length in our 4 community

3777
02:09:11,876 --> 02:09:13,110
meetings, our options are

3778
02:09:13,110 --> 02:09:13,677
limited. There was thorough

3779
02:09:13,677 --> 02:09:15,677
discussion on several

3780
02:09:16,180 --> 02:09:17,148
potential new revenue sources.

3781
02:09:17,148 --> 02:09:19,548
Marijuana, a commuter tax

3782
02:09:20,417 --> 02:09:21,118
vehicle miles traveled model a

3783
02:09:21,118 --> 02:09:22,753
convention tax for roads. All

3784
02:09:22,753 --> 02:09:24,756
of these are not legal in the

3785
02:09:24,756 --> 02:09:25,456
state. The state would need to

3786
02:09:25,456 --> 02:09:26,957
legalize and create a taxing

3787
02:09:26,957 --> 02:09:28,926
structure for local

3788
02:09:28,926 --> 02:09:31,960
governments. The city County

3789
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:32,630
Council cannot legislate this

3790
02:09:32,630 --> 02:09:34,466
at this time. But many of us

3791
02:09:34,466 --> 02:09:36,735
have advocated for each of

3792
02:09:36,735 --> 02:09:37,536
these our plan recognize that

3793
02:09:37,536 --> 02:09:39,603
growth alone cannot solve this

3794
02:09:39,603 --> 02:09:40,972
problem but should be part of

3795
02:09:40,972 --> 02:09:41,573
the equation. And while we can

3796
02:09:41,573 --> 02:09:43,909
set specific income and

3797
02:09:43,909 --> 02:09:44,576
property tax rates, the

3798
02:09:44,576 --> 02:09:46,976
parameters that those rates

3799
02:09:47,212 --> 02:09:48,130
are also set by the state and

3800
02:09:48,130 --> 02:09:50,549
for both revenue sources. We

3801
02:09:50,549 --> 02:09:52,584
either need to raise them. Or

3802
02:09:52,584 --> 02:09:54,487
take away revenue think other

3803
02:09:54,487 --> 02:09:56,254
taxing units like the library

3804
02:09:56,254 --> 02:09:58,490
towns like Beech Grove

3805
02:09:58,490 --> 02:10:01,490
Speedway in Southport. We also

3806
02:10:01,693 --> 02:10:02,594
discussed budget cuts which we

3807
02:10:02,594 --> 02:10:03,929
MAY need to turn to eventually

3808
02:10:03,929 --> 02:10:06,832
if we are unsuccessful with

3809
02:10:06,832 --> 02:10:08,233
this proposal. But let me be

3810
02:10:08,233 --> 02:10:10,937
perfectly clear. We are not

3811
02:10:10,937 --> 02:10:11,636
cutting from a 1.7 billion

3812
02:10:11,636 --> 02:10:14,306
dollar budget. So a one or 2%

3813
02:10:14,306 --> 02:10:15,907
trim won't cut it because only

3814
02:10:15,907 --> 02:10:18,510
around a quarter of that

3815
02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:19,177
revenue is eligible to be used

3816
02:10:19,177 --> 02:10:21,577
for infrastructure. So that

3817
02:10:21,813 --> 02:10:22,948
kind of closer to 10%. And we

3818
02:10:22,948 --> 02:10:24,649
talk about cuts. We're cutting

3819
02:10:24,649 --> 02:10:25,784
from eligible funding that is

3820
02:10:25,784 --> 02:10:28,753
already being used for public

3821
02:10:28,753 --> 02:10:29,454
safety to build fire stations

3822
02:10:29,454 --> 02:10:30,822
ensures pools are open. Grass

3823
02:10:30,822 --> 02:10:34,292
gets cut at parks and we pick

3824
02:10:34,292 --> 02:10:35,260
up the dang trash. That's not

3825
02:10:35,260 --> 02:10:37,426
fiscal discipline. It shifting

3826
02:10:37,662 --> 02:10:38,396
the cost elsewhere. This is

3827
02:10:38,396 --> 02:10:39,970
not to say that we do not need

3828
02:10:39,970 --> 02:10:42,567
to sharpen our pencils and be

3829
02:10:42,567 --> 02:10:43,169
more critical of spending.

3830
02:10:43,169 --> 02:10:43,869
Senator rollback one is

3831
02:10:43,869 --> 02:10:45,170
forcing us to do just that to

3832
02:10:45,170 --> 02:10:45,804
the tune of 50 million dollars

3833
02:10:45,804 --> 02:10:48,804
last year. We are already

3834
02:10:50,175 --> 02:10:51,770
doing the work. The idea that

3835
02:10:51,770 --> 02:10:53,979
there's this annual amount of

3836
02:10:53,979 --> 02:10:54,646
50, 7000 million dollars

3837
02:10:54,646 --> 02:10:57,460
annually laying around that

3838
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:57,683
doesn't include cutting from

3839
02:10:57,683 --> 02:11:00,830
basic services and core

3840
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:01,954
operations is untrue period.

3841
02:11:01,954 --> 02:11:02,954
And like many other

3842
02:11:02,954 --> 02:11:05,354
communities around our state.

3843
02:11:05,359 --> 02:11:07,226
And in this moment, we are

3844
02:11:07,226 --> 02:11:08,194
being forced to rely more on

3845
02:11:08,194 --> 02:11:09,862
income taxes and user fees

3846
02:11:09,862 --> 02:11:10,495
like the wheel tax in the

3847
02:11:10,495 --> 02:11:12,895
surtax to meet basic

3848
02:11:13,299 --> 02:11:13,933
operations for our city. So

3849
02:11:13,933 --> 02:11:15,301
this leads us to the pro

3850
02:11:15,301 --> 02:11:17,637
proposed before the council

3851
02:11:17,637 --> 02:11:19,500
this evening, raising an

3852
02:11:19,500 --> 02:11:20,907
existing user fee that must be

3853
02:11:20,907 --> 02:11:22,241
used exclusively for

3854
02:11:22,241 --> 02:11:22,942
infrastructure. Ensures the

3855
02:11:22,942 --> 02:11:25,444
heaviest vehicles pay as much

3856
02:11:25,444 --> 02:11:26,120
as legally possible and

3857
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:26,711
provides predictable,

3858
02:11:26,711 --> 02:11:29,111
sustainable funding next year

3859
02:11:29,482 --> 02:11:30,249
and every year after as we

3860
02:11:30,249 --> 02:11:32,649
have discussed publicly for

3861
02:11:32,786 --> 02:11:33,719
hours. So I won't fully rehash

3862
02:11:33,719 --> 02:11:36,289
proposal. One 92 is part of a

3863
02:11:36,289 --> 02:11:37,824
five-year plus council plan to

3864
02:11:37,824 --> 02:11:40,293
ensure the city can leverage

3865
02:11:40,293 --> 02:11:42,663
the state's investment by

3866
02:11:42,663 --> 02:11:43,329
2031. More than 200 million

3867
02:11:43,329 --> 02:11:44,697
dollars annually in new and

3868
02:11:44,697 --> 02:11:46,697
permanent infrastructure

3869
02:11:47,534 --> 02:11:48,702
funding in the budget. And

3870
02:11:48,702 --> 02:11:50,270
it's not just a city of

3871
02:11:50,270 --> 02:11:51,400
Indianapolis. The benefits

3872
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:54,400
owed to 15 excluded cities and

3873
02:11:54,340 --> 02:11:54,941
included towns. Some examples

3874
02:11:54,941 --> 02:11:56,776
Beech Grove receive an

3875
02:11:56,776 --> 02:11:58,776
additional 1.0 2, 2 million

3876
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:01,315
Speedway. 1.0 9 million. In

3877
02:12:01,315 --> 02:12:02,150
closing. I fully recognize and

3878
02:12:02,150 --> 02:12:03,115
appreciate the weight of the

3879
02:12:03,115 --> 02:12:06,115
vote this evening. I don't

3880
02:12:06,118 --> 02:12:07,854
want to dismiss it and it does

3881
02:12:07,854 --> 02:12:09,923
not mean we have to like the

3882
02:12:09,923 --> 02:12:10,656
challenge in front of us and

3883
02:12:10,656 --> 02:12:11,558
the pain of picking from a set

3884
02:12:11,558 --> 02:12:13,958
of suboptimal options. But

3885
02:12:14,795 --> 02:12:15,862
choosing to do nothing are

3886
02:12:15,862 --> 02:12:16,597
choosing to kick the can down

3887
02:12:16,597 --> 02:12:18,264
the road again won't solve our

3888
02:12:18,264 --> 02:12:19,866
city's infrastructure

3889
02:12:19,866 --> 02:12:20,600
challenges. I fear we kick the

3890
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:23,403
can one more time and MAY very

3891
02:12:23,403 --> 02:12:24,471
well disintegrate. For all the

3892
02:12:24,471 --> 02:12:27,374
progress we have on this issue

3893
02:12:27,374 --> 02:12:29,109
for the past decade, we have

3894
02:12:29,109 --> 02:12:30,177
not received reach

3895
02:12:30,177 --> 02:12:32,177
sustainability because people

3896
02:12:34,581 --> 02:12:36,382
in our positions. In the past

3897
02:12:36,382 --> 02:12:37,170
over decades have found

3898
02:12:37,170 --> 02:12:39,170
convenient arguments that

3899
02:12:40,319 --> 02:12:41,421
quote now is not the time

3900
02:12:41,421 --> 02:12:42,122
without a permit permanent

3901
02:12:42,122 --> 02:12:43,590
budgetary solution to satisfy

3902
02:12:43,590 --> 02:12:44,857
the 50 million dollar State

3903
02:12:44,857 --> 02:12:46,926
contribution. We cannot say we

3904
02:12:46,926 --> 02:12:48,696
have the funds available. We

3905
02:12:48,696 --> 02:12:49,797
just cannot. That MAY be a

3906
02:12:49,797 --> 02:12:51,765
tough reality for for for some

3907
02:12:51,765 --> 02:12:52,432
to fully grasp or accept, but

3908
02:12:52,432 --> 02:12:54,401
it doesn't make it any less

3909
02:12:54,401 --> 02:12:57,401
true. So when faced with

3910
02:12:58,572 --> 02:12:59,206
reality, what we do. Let's

3911
02:12:59,206 --> 02:12:59,840
ourselves to do the right

3912
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:02,442
thing to face reality and

3913
02:13:02,442 --> 02:13:03,111
leave the city with that

3914
02:13:03,111 --> 02:13:03,744
colleagues extra vote this

3915
02:13:03,744 --> 02:13:06,144
evening. Thank you, MADAM

3916
02:13:07,140 --> 02:13:09,140
PRESIDENT. Thank you,

3917
02:13:10,952 --> 02:13:12,152
counselor Nielsen, How's your

3918
02:13:12,152 --> 02:13:13,755
kale and counselors as you

3919
02:13:13,755 --> 02:13:14,922
give me a little bit of grace,

3920
02:13:14,922 --> 02:13:15,924
I know everybody probably

3921
02:13:15,924 --> 02:13:16,790
wants an opportunity speak. I

3922
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:20,390
promise to get to cast Kale.

3923
02:13:20,727 --> 02:13:23,970
Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, I

3924
02:13:23,970 --> 02:13:23,764
just want to rub out a few

3925
02:13:23,764 --> 02:13:24,498
things. The council Nielsen

3926
02:13:24,498 --> 02:13:28,980
said because I think these are

3927
02:13:28,402 --> 02:13:30,371
just truly differences of how

3928
02:13:30,371 --> 02:13:33,371
to approach the problem. I

3929
02:13:33,775 --> 02:13:35,676
certainly believe that we

3930
02:13:35,676 --> 02:13:37,100
absolutely should increase the

3931
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:39,410
funding. We've already for

3932
02:13:39,414 --> 02:13:40,148
that for years, I argued in

3933
02:13:40,148 --> 02:13:42,617
budget hearings last year, the

3934
02:13:42,617 --> 02:13:43,284
mayor said that would have no

3935
02:13:43,284 --> 02:13:45,320
problem coming up with the

3936
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:46,621
50 million I actually said,

3937
02:13:46,621 --> 02:13:48,890
why don't come up with in

3938
02:13:48,890 --> 02:13:51,290
2026, which we heard last

3939
02:13:52,594 --> 02:13:55,594
year? I think that much.

3940
02:13:56,163 --> 02:13:57,970
Possibly even all of the

3941
02:13:57,970 --> 02:13:57,799
needed 50 million can come

3942
02:13:57,799 --> 02:13:59,333
from organic tax without even

3943
02:13:59,333 --> 02:14:02,690
actually cut here because I

3944
02:14:02,690 --> 02:14:03,238
agree with the council

3945
02:14:03,238 --> 02:14:04,972
Nielsen's that if really went

3946
02:14:04,972 --> 02:14:07,742
after cut and use the 2026

3947
02:14:07,742 --> 02:14:09,711
budget, that's one thing. But

3948
02:14:09,711 --> 02:14:11,612
I think that we have the

3949
02:14:11,612 --> 02:14:12,280
ability through organic tax

3950
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:13,181
everybody. When people get

3951
02:14:13,181 --> 02:14:16,830
raises, we get 2 point o 2% of

3952
02:14:16,830 --> 02:14:19,683
every year we can use those

3953
02:14:22,190 --> 02:14:22,857
spots. I also have a we heard

3954
02:14:22,857 --> 02:14:23,625
the other comment about the

3955
02:14:23,625 --> 02:14:26,250
excluded cities include towns.

3956
02:14:26,461 --> 02:14:27,229
I have one of each in my

3957
02:14:27,229 --> 02:14:30,229
district and I reached out

3958
02:14:30,431 --> 02:14:32,334
each of them and they chose to

3959
02:14:32,334 --> 02:14:33,340
not request the money they do.

3960
02:14:33,340 --> 02:14:34,469
In fact, they are. So Ford is

3961
02:14:34,469 --> 02:14:38,390
the only one that does not

3962
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:38,641
have the population to vote

3963
02:14:38,641 --> 02:14:40,642
for their own. So it is

3964
02:14:40,642 --> 02:14:41,510
possible, for example, for

3965
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:43,910
Beech Grove, 2, they've been

3966
02:14:45,214 --> 02:14:45,880
talking about $25 tax that

3967
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:47,183
they we can vote one way or

3968
02:14:47,183 --> 02:14:49,652
another. Here they have that

3969
02:14:49,652 --> 02:14:51,319
tool themselves. Southport

3970
02:14:51,319 --> 02:14:54,919
does not, but they chose to

3971
02:14:55,590 --> 02:14:56,492
ask for that money here. And

3972
02:14:56,492 --> 02:14:59,628
one of the biggest problems I

3973
02:14:59,628 --> 02:15:01,230
really struggle with on is

3974
02:15:01,230 --> 02:15:01,931
that the flat tax approach and

3975
02:15:01,931 --> 02:15:04,931
the dollar amount that we're

3976
02:15:05,901 --> 02:15:06,502
talking $600 at the low end.

3977
02:15:06,502 --> 02:15:07,136
If you have a low value

3978
02:15:07,136 --> 02:15:09,536
vehicle under the current

3979
02:15:10,973 --> 02:15:12,841
model, it I heard a lot of

3980
02:15:12,841 --> 02:15:13,908
senior citizens tell me I have

3981
02:15:13,908 --> 02:15:15,177
an old car. I'm paying $7.50

3982
02:15:15,177 --> 02:15:18,800
because I drive a 20 year-old

3983
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,117
Toyota. But at the same time,

3984
02:15:21,117 --> 02:15:22,184
if you drive a brand new

3985
02:15:22,184 --> 02:15:24,185
Ferrari brand new Bentley,

3986
02:15:24,185 --> 02:15:25,120
you're actually paying 106. 25

3987
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:26,489
today. So you get a little bit

3988
02:15:26,489 --> 02:15:30,590
of a tax break in I just

3989
02:15:30,590 --> 02:15:31,927
can't. I just cannot reconcile

3990
02:15:31,927 --> 02:15:33,950
that. And so for those

3991
02:15:33,950 --> 02:15:33,662
reasons, I I'm not gonna be

3992
02:15:33,662 --> 02:15:34,797
able to support this.

3993
02:15:34,797 --> 02:15:37,197
Certainly urge my colleagues

3994
02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:41,100
to do the same thing. Council

3995
02:15:44,507 --> 02:15:46,760
miscarry. Thank you, MADAM,

3996
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:48,744
PRESIDENT, in my issue is is

3997
02:15:48,744 --> 02:15:50,913
equity. And I've said caucus.

3998
02:15:50,913 --> 02:15:51,580
I think the 25 districts

3999
02:15:51,580 --> 02:15:54,580
should get decent amount of

4000
02:15:56,185 --> 02:15:56,785
money return. It's a tough to

4001
02:15:56,785 --> 02:15:58,420
swallow to. I have one

4002
02:15:58,420 --> 02:16:00,156
neighbor has foregone 3

4003
02:16:00,156 --> 02:16:03,156
daughters man and wife. This

4004
02:16:04,927 --> 02:16:05,661
is 5 cars as $500 but unless

4005
02:16:05,661 --> 02:16:06,462
we get equity, I really cannot

4006
02:16:06,462 --> 02:16:08,831
support this right now. Thank

4007
02:16:08,831 --> 02:16:11,231
you. Thank you. Additional

4008
02:16:13,135 --> 02:16:15,135
comments. Councilor Brown.

4009
02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:17,374
Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

4010
02:16:17,374 --> 02:16:18,175
just want to read it. Wanted

4011
02:16:18,175 --> 02:16:18,808
to reiterate what I said

4012
02:16:18,808 --> 02:16:21,770
during one of our public

4013
02:16:21,770 --> 02:16:21,678
hearings on this, which is

4014
02:16:21,678 --> 02:16:24,780
that this is political

4015
02:16:25,481 --> 02:16:26,349
oppression. When you heard

4016
02:16:26,349 --> 02:16:27,484
council Nielsen accurately

4017
02:16:27,484 --> 02:16:30,484
describe what's going on here.

4018
02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:31,555
This is the state house coming

4019
02:16:31,555 --> 02:16:33,724
to us with the political

4020
02:16:33,724 --> 02:16:35,926
equivalent of a gun to our

4021
02:16:35,926 --> 02:16:38,195
head saying that we have to

4022
02:16:38,195 --> 02:16:38,829
raise money even though we're

4023
02:16:38,829 --> 02:16:40,130
already a donor county in

4024
02:16:40,130 --> 02:16:42,199
terms of how we fund the

4025
02:16:42,199 --> 02:16:43,166
state, we have to raise

4026
02:16:43,166 --> 02:16:45,268
additional money, not from the

4027
02:16:45,268 --> 02:16:46,360
people who live in Hamilton in

4028
02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:46,703
Johnson, County of the Donut

4029
02:16:46,703 --> 02:16:48,739
counties that use our roads

4030
02:16:48,739 --> 02:16:49,706
without paying us for it. We

4031
02:16:49,706 --> 02:16:50,373
have to raise it from our

4032
02:16:50,373 --> 02:16:52,773
working class residents who

4033
02:16:53,877 --> 02:16:54,611
can't afford it. Under

4034
02:16:54,611 --> 02:16:55,245
Republican rule in this state.

4035
02:16:55,245 --> 02:16:58,148
The rich have gotten far

4036
02:16:58,148 --> 02:16:59,149
richer. The rest of us have

4037
02:16:59,149 --> 02:17:02,149
not. And that's very, very

4038
02:17:03,286 --> 02:17:04,870
obvious because $80 over a

4039
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:08,287
year should not be a make or

4040
02:17:08,859 --> 02:17:09,726
break amount of money. And yet

4041
02:17:09,726 --> 02:17:11,270
it we're hearing from our

4042
02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:12,262
constituents. We understand,

4043
02:17:12,262 --> 02:17:13,964
you know, the elderly people,

4044
02:17:13,964 --> 02:17:14,631
the people on fixed incomes

4045
02:17:14,631 --> 02:17:15,298
are really struggling. The

4046
02:17:15,298 --> 02:17:18,268
cost of living is going up.

4047
02:17:18,268 --> 02:17:21,268
Wages are not. Property. Taxes

4048
02:17:21,338 --> 02:17:22,305
are still incredibly high. The

4049
02:17:22,305 --> 02:17:25,609
rate to rise by the bus just

4050
02:17:25,609 --> 02:17:26,910
went up a dollar this year. So

4051
02:17:26,910 --> 02:17:28,845
while everybody else seems to

4052
02:17:28,845 --> 02:17:30,130
be getting tax cuts, while

4053
02:17:30,130 --> 02:17:30,614
everybody else seems to be

4054
02:17:30,614 --> 02:17:31,314
able to make political

4055
02:17:31,314 --> 02:17:32,517
donations that then make sure

4056
02:17:32,517 --> 02:17:33,250
the tax policy favors them.

4057
02:17:33,250 --> 02:17:37,200
The rest of us don't have that

4058
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:39,420
opportunity. So look, the

4059
02:17:39,657 --> 02:17:40,390
council cannot do what we

4060
02:17:40,390 --> 02:17:43,427
should be doing here, which is

4061
02:17:43,427 --> 02:17:44,950
tax the rich. When Herb Simon,

4062
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:47,297
Ys net worth has tripled in

4063
02:17:47,297 --> 02:17:47,998
the last 6 years. So that now

4064
02:17:47,998 --> 02:17:50,268
he's an upwards of 6 billion

4065
02:17:50,268 --> 02:17:53,204
dollars in net worth. It's

4066
02:17:53,204 --> 02:17:54,572
ridiculous that we are asking

4067
02:17:54,572 --> 02:17:55,673
little old ladies to pay 80

4068
02:17:55,673 --> 02:17:57,542
extra dollars a year to drive

4069
02:17:57,542 --> 02:17:58,760
the 20 year-old car that we

4070
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:00,476
just heard. That is

4071
02:18:00,678 --> 02:18:01,345
ridiculous. And yet our state

4072
02:18:01,345 --> 02:18:02,130
house does not give us the

4073
02:18:02,130 --> 02:18:03,749
legal authority to ask the

4074
02:18:03,749 --> 02:18:05,983
people who can afford it to

4075
02:18:05,983 --> 02:18:09,583
pay what they ought to pay.

4076
02:18:11,220 --> 02:18:13,691
And I would urge you all to go

4077
02:18:13,691 --> 02:18:14,525
back and read a recent op ed

4078
02:18:14,525 --> 02:18:15,259
that was written by Republican

4079
02:18:15,259 --> 02:18:18,259
friend of mine from Shepherd

4080
02:18:19,730 --> 02:18:20,598
Community Center. Jay Height.

4081
02:18:20,598 --> 02:18:21,232
Here's pithy phrase. Was that

4082
02:18:21,232 --> 02:18:24,469
potholes are a tax on the

4083
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:25,403
poor. As a person currently

4084
02:18:25,403 --> 02:18:29,300
living close to poverty. I can

4085
02:18:30,241 --> 02:18:31,342
attest to this. When you lose

4086
02:18:31,342 --> 02:18:32,760
a tire when you lose a ram

4087
02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:34,450
that when you have to get your

4088
02:18:34,450 --> 02:18:35,313
car towed to get it repaired,

4089
02:18:35,313 --> 02:18:36,214
you could MISS Work. You can

4090
02:18:36,214 --> 02:18:37,549
get laid off. This is far more

4091
02:18:37,549 --> 02:18:39,949
devastating to your finances

4092
02:18:40,318 --> 02:18:43,918
and hard to predict. Then a

4093
02:18:44,255 --> 02:18:45,657
dollar fee. One time of year.

4094
02:18:45,657 --> 02:18:46,358
We need, although I'm

4095
02:18:46,358 --> 02:18:47,959
reluctant we need to vote yes

4096
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:50,828
on this proposal tonight. And

4097
02:18:50,828 --> 02:18:52,263
then even more importantly,

4098
02:18:52,263 --> 02:18:54,198
all of us need to get busy

4099
02:18:54,198 --> 02:18:55,166
electing new outsiders to the

4100
02:18:55,166 --> 02:18:57,200
state house who are not part

4101
02:18:57,200 --> 02:18:59,137
of this corrupt political

4102
02:18:59,137 --> 02:19:00,806
establishment who could put an

4103
02:19:00,806 --> 02:19:01,906
end to this by the Israel

4104
02:19:01,906 --> 02:19:02,573
lobby, the slum lords and the

4105
02:19:02,573 --> 02:19:04,209
data center developers and

4106
02:19:04,209 --> 02:19:04,909
instead create a government by

4107
02:19:04,909 --> 02:19:08,509
of and for the people. Thank

4108
02:19:15,454 --> 02:19:17,854
you. Accounts remain. Thank

4109
02:19:19,525 --> 02:19:21,493
you, MADAM PRESIDENT. Be

4110
02:19:21,493 --> 02:19:22,127
brief. I certainly don't have

4111
02:19:22,127 --> 02:19:22,828
political wherewithal to

4112
02:19:22,828 --> 02:19:25,828
connect Israel to potholes in

4113
02:19:28,901 --> 02:19:29,601
Indianapolis, but some of us

4114
02:19:29,601 --> 02:19:30,335
But at least when it comes to

4115
02:19:30,335 --> 02:19:31,537
this proposal in tax increases

4116
02:19:31,537 --> 02:19:33,205
and of itself, I think there's

4117
02:19:33,205 --> 02:19:35,605
just a phenomenal disagreement

4118
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:38,677
about how we get there. For

4119
02:19:38,677 --> 02:19:39,611
me. I look at any tax increase

4120
02:19:39,611 --> 02:19:40,979
as the government saying we

4121
02:19:40,979 --> 02:19:41,680
know how to spend your

4122
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:44,800
hard-earned money better than

4123
02:19:47,850 --> 02:19:47,820
you do. And to some extent we

4124
02:19:47,820 --> 02:19:49,254
all we all know that taxes are

4125
02:19:49,254 --> 02:19:52,157
necessary evil. You have to

4126
02:19:52,157 --> 02:19:52,891
have police have to fire have

4127
02:19:52,891 --> 02:19:55,427
to have emergency response. We

4128
02:19:55,427 --> 02:19:56,228
have to public infrastructure

4129
02:19:56,228 --> 02:19:59,228
like roads. I've long said

4130
02:19:59,531 --> 02:20:01,531
that infrastructures. Over 90%

4131
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,101
of my constituent

4132
02:20:03,101 --> 02:20:03,769
correspondents. That's why

4133
02:20:03,769 --> 02:20:05,604
over the past couple years,

4134
02:20:05,604 --> 02:20:07,606
I've what efforts to amend our

4135
02:20:07,606 --> 02:20:09,708
budget. You know, I've never

4136
02:20:09,708 --> 02:20:10,442
seen council in the

4137
02:20:10,442 --> 02:20:11,144
infrastructure budget and the

4138
02:20:11,144 --> 02:20:13,378
roughly 10 years that they've

4139
02:20:13,378 --> 02:20:14,470
been in majority here.

4140
02:20:14,470 --> 02:20:16,482
Potholes are not a partisan

4141
02:20:16,482 --> 02:20:18,283
issue, which is why 2 years

4142
02:20:18,283 --> 02:20:20,286
ago I went over to the state

4143
02:20:20,286 --> 02:20:21,520
legislature asked for this

4144
02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:24,389
very opportunity for us to get

4145
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:26,359
this 50 million dollar match.

4146
02:20:26,359 --> 02:20:28,695
That will be a historic

4147
02:20:28,695 --> 02:20:29,462
investment in city rivets.

4148
02:20:29,462 --> 02:20:30,129
Keep in mind, that's the

4149
02:20:30,129 --> 02:20:30,996
Republican super majority.

4150
02:20:30,996 --> 02:20:32,432
They don't have a gun to your

4151
02:20:32,432 --> 02:20:33,132
head because you can walk away

4152
02:20:33,132 --> 02:20:35,768
at any point in time that you

4153
02:20:35,768 --> 02:20:36,536
want people Julie, gun your

4154
02:20:36,536 --> 02:20:40,136
head do well, that is an

4155
02:20:40,607 --> 02:20:41,307
option but don't let anyone

4156
02:20:41,307 --> 02:20:44,177
tell you that the only way we

4157
02:20:44,177 --> 02:20:44,978
get to this 50 million dollar

4158
02:20:44,978 --> 02:20:45,612
match, it's through a tax

4159
02:20:45,612 --> 02:20:47,881
increase. I think council

4160
02:20:47,881 --> 02:20:48,581
Calle said it perfectly. Our

4161
02:20:48,581 --> 02:20:50,981
budget just grows organically

4162
02:20:51,551 --> 02:20:52,285
every year. We just have to

4163
02:20:52,285 --> 02:20:55,588
have the courage to flat line.

4164
02:20:55,588 --> 02:20:56,656
Some of these existing. Well,

4165
02:20:56,656 --> 02:20:59,560
the calmer accouterments of

4166
02:21:00,226 --> 02:21:00,960
city government, things that

4167
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,597
can be nice to I disagree with

4168
02:21:04,597 --> 02:21:05,265
a lot of them. So it is a dei

4169
02:21:05,265 --> 02:21:05,932
office that we spend over a

4170
02:21:05,932 --> 02:21:08,932
million dollars a year on.

4171
02:21:10,637 --> 02:21:11,437
That's on top of the offices

4172
02:21:11,437 --> 02:21:12,172
of minority and women business

4173
02:21:12,172 --> 02:21:14,572
development. So technically we

4174
02:21:15,410 --> 02:21:15,709
have to get officers here and

4175
02:21:15,709 --> 02:21:17,911
Indianapolis that we spend

4176
02:21:17,911 --> 02:21:18,645
millions of dollars a year on

4177
02:21:18,645 --> 02:21:20,113
that. We could easily put that

4178
02:21:20,113 --> 02:21:23,113
money towards roads. It's a

4179
02:21:23,750 --> 02:21:25,552
choice that we're making. The

4180
02:21:25,552 --> 02:21:29,752
question is we do we have the

4181
02:21:30,991 --> 02:21:32,759
courage to fund the necessary

4182
02:21:32,759 --> 02:21:34,894
the necessary departments in

4183
02:21:34,894 --> 02:21:35,528
Indianapolis. For me, that's

4184
02:21:35,528 --> 02:21:36,229
public safety and that's

4185
02:21:36,229 --> 02:21:38,310
infrastructure. Those should

4186
02:21:38,310 --> 02:21:38,731
be fully funded and everything

4187
02:21:38,731 --> 02:21:39,699
that's left over that can be

4188
02:21:39,699 --> 02:21:42,101
divvied up among the remaining

4189
02:21:42,101 --> 02:21:44,501
departments. Set up the

4190
02:21:45,238 --> 02:21:48,838
courage to say these are our

4191
02:21:49,276 --> 02:21:52,276
priorities and these are not.

4192
02:21:52,379 --> 02:21:55,379
CHAIRMAN Else. Lee. Thank you.

4193
02:21:57,384 --> 02:21:58,520
MADAM PRESIDENT. Let us

4194
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:01,520
acknowledge that no one in

4195
02:22:01,288 --> 02:22:04,888
this chamber. It's put us in

4196
02:22:05,493 --> 02:22:06,193
this undesirable position. 3,

4197
02:22:06,193 --> 02:22:06,927
Frank, this is not the

4198
02:22:06,927 --> 02:22:10,231
direction that we as a council

4199
02:22:10,231 --> 02:22:12,700
would have taken. We are here

4200
02:22:12,700 --> 02:22:14,902
because it is the sole option

4201
02:22:14,902 --> 02:22:16,637
finally offered by the General

4202
02:22:16,637 --> 02:22:19,637
Assembly to repair our decades

4203
02:22:20,608 --> 02:22:21,275
of crumbling streets. And as

4204
02:22:21,275 --> 02:22:23,770
elected representatives, we

4205
02:22:23,770 --> 02:22:25,477
have responsibility. To act

4206
02:22:28,782 --> 02:22:29,984
now on this. So election. With

4207
02:22:29,984 --> 02:22:30,684
an affirmative vote. The

4208
02:22:30,684 --> 02:22:31,385
council has ability to raise

4209
02:22:31,385 --> 02:22:33,785
more than 70 million dollars

4210
02:22:34,756 --> 02:22:35,389
in new revenue. And put it

4211
02:22:35,389 --> 02:22:36,123
towards the most critical

4212
02:22:36,123 --> 02:22:38,523
issues facing our neighborhood

4213
02:22:40,728 --> 02:22:41,428
streets. Yeah, I worry the

4214
02:22:41,428 --> 02:22:42,290
plan currently on the table

4215
02:22:42,290 --> 02:22:45,290
does not do enough fast

4216
02:22:46,133 --> 02:22:46,834
enough. I believe that we

4217
02:22:46,834 --> 02:22:48,200
move. We need to move and we

4218
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:51,200
must move faster. And be

4219
02:22:52,573 --> 02:22:53,240
bolder. Because if we're

4220
02:22:53,240 --> 02:22:56,240
asking the citizens of week

4221
02:22:56,644 --> 02:22:57,679
that we represent to pay more,

4222
02:22:57,679 --> 02:22:59,513
we must ensure their hard

4223
02:22:59,513 --> 02:23:01,515
earned dollars are spent

4224
02:23:01,515 --> 02:23:02,183
fairly quickly and where they

4225
02:23:02,183 --> 02:23:05,183
will see the most immediate

4226
02:23:07,880 --> 02:23:09,890
benefit. We must leverage. The

4227
02:23:09,890 --> 02:23:10,425
revenue raised from tonight's

4228
02:23:10,425 --> 02:23:11,126
vote to create a once in a

4229
02:23:11,126 --> 02:23:13,126
generation neighborhood road

4230
02:23:14,362 --> 02:23:15,630
funding program. That can

4231
02:23:15,630 --> 02:23:17,463
sustain Indianapolis is road

4232
02:23:18,633 --> 02:23:21,633
maintenance for years to come.

4233
02:23:21,837 --> 02:23:22,970
This is not an easy vote.

4234
02:23:22,970 --> 02:23:25,970
Asking people to pay more,

4235
02:23:27,476 --> 02:23:28,844
never should be. But we must

4236
02:23:28,844 --> 02:23:32,444
fix the issues our city is

4237
02:23:33,248 --> 02:23:34,150
facing, especially. Those as

4238
02:23:34,150 --> 02:23:37,615
important as the state of our

4239
02:23:39,540 --> 02:23:39,754
roads and infrastructure. So

4240
02:23:39,754 --> 02:23:40,789
tonight we move forward, let

4241
02:23:40,789 --> 02:23:43,291
do it with our eyes. Open with

4242
02:23:43,291 --> 02:23:44,960
our responsibility is clear.

4243
02:23:44,960 --> 02:23:48,560
And with a firm commitment to

4244
02:23:49,970 --> 02:23:50,732
fixing the roads of our city.

4245
02:23:50,732 --> 02:23:51,366
And finally, I am committed to

4246
02:23:51,366 --> 02:23:51,933
working with the General

4247
02:23:51,933 --> 02:23:53,933
Assembly alongside my

4248
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:55,604
colleagues. To improve the

4249
02:23:55,604 --> 02:23:57,604
options available to

4250
02:23:58,974 --> 02:24:01,276
Indianapolis. And a funding

4251
02:24:01,276 --> 02:24:04,276
model that is fair. More

4252
02:24:05,714 --> 02:24:06,648
equitable. And one that is

4253
02:24:06,648 --> 02:24:08,160
based proportionately on the

4254
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:12,216
value of our vehicles as it is

4255
02:24:14,990 --> 02:24:17,990
today. Leader Mary. Thank you.

4256
02:24:19,227 --> 02:24:19,929
MADAM PRESIDENT. I can

4257
02:24:19,929 --> 02:24:20,596
appreciate all the hard work

4258
02:24:20,596 --> 02:24:23,596
that's gone into this from

4259
02:24:24,132 --> 02:24:25,100
firm Councilor Nielsen and

4260
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:26,335
others in a vote on this

4261
02:24:26,335 --> 02:24:27,569
proposal. I and I don't think

4262
02:24:27,569 --> 02:24:28,638
there's any one of us in here

4263
02:24:28,638 --> 02:24:29,305
that would disagree that

4264
02:24:29,305 --> 02:24:30,600
potholes are the number one

4265
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:32,875
issue that face Arkansas are

4266
02:24:32,875 --> 02:24:33,609
constituencies. If that was

4267
02:24:33,609 --> 02:24:36,609
the question board tonight, we

4268
02:24:37,130 --> 02:24:37,680
have 25 and we it's that. But

4269
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,680
that's on the questions. I

4270
02:24:41,717 --> 02:24:42,385
tell you how fix that problem.

4271
02:24:42,385 --> 02:24:43,119
What they have continually

4272
02:24:43,119 --> 02:24:46,119
through all the meetings we've

4273
02:24:49,826 --> 02:24:50,459
sat through for this is. Knows

4274
02:24:50,459 --> 02:24:51,930
from almost everyone it's

4275
02:24:51,930 --> 02:24:53,493
attended the meeting and

4276
02:24:54,330 --> 02:24:55,398
that's that stuck out to me.

4277
02:24:55,398 --> 02:24:56,265
There's been very few. Yes,

4278
02:24:56,265 --> 02:24:56,933
people one. The only people

4279
02:24:56,933 --> 02:24:58,234
hurt. Remember hearing say

4280
02:24:58,234 --> 02:25:01,834
yes, doesn't even live in the

4281
02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:02,672
county. That's the case, then

4282
02:25:02,672 --> 02:25:04,207
if he's going to, you know,

4283
02:25:04,207 --> 02:25:06,175
have us all paid of our fair

4284
02:25:06,175 --> 02:25:08,945
share. Where's the option for

4285
02:25:08,945 --> 02:25:10,279
him to donate to This proposal

4286
02:25:10,279 --> 02:25:11,214
for these donut counties to

4287
02:25:11,214 --> 02:25:11,848
then kick their fair share

4288
02:25:11,848 --> 02:25:14,248
because they're using our

4289
02:25:15,485 --> 02:25:16,118
roads as well. One of the last

4290
02:25:16,118 --> 02:25:18,210
times I can, you remember

4291
02:25:18,210 --> 02:25:20,990
hearing of some the tax hike

4292
02:25:20,990 --> 02:25:21,724
such as this was indigo, they

4293
02:25:21,724 --> 02:25:24,124
now receive over 81 million

4294
02:25:24,827 --> 02:25:27,827
dollars for empty buses. We

4295
02:25:27,997 --> 02:25:28,664
put that vote to the community

4296
02:25:28,664 --> 02:25:29,365
citizens through referendum

4297
02:25:29,365 --> 02:25:30,320
and let them vote on it. And

4298
02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:32,835
they told us what they what

4299
02:25:32,835 --> 02:25:35,400
they wanted us to do. I don't

4300
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:36,640
see what I can beast the same

4301
02:25:36,640 --> 02:25:37,306
situation here. We're going

4302
02:25:37,306 --> 02:25:39,443
take a tax hike. Let's let

4303
02:25:39,443 --> 02:25:40,144
this community vote on it. If

4304
02:25:40,144 --> 02:25:42,145
they want to do that and get

4305
02:25:42,145 --> 02:25:44,180
the street roads repaved that

4306
02:25:44,180 --> 02:25:44,881
way, let's do it. If they

4307
02:25:44,881 --> 02:25:45,582
don't agree with that, let's

4308
02:25:45,582 --> 02:25:46,250
go back to the drawing board.

4309
02:25:46,250 --> 02:25:48,318
Actually start cutting the

4310
02:25:48,318 --> 02:25:48,952
budgets or we need to. Flat

4311
02:25:48,952 --> 02:25:51,952
line. But this is counter

4312
02:25:52,955 --> 02:25:53,656
Bayne said. One of things I

4313
02:25:53,656 --> 02:25:54,725
also heard was that there are

4314
02:25:54,725 --> 02:25:58,950
a lot even my own concision.

4315
02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:59,563
My of my own district is that.

4316
02:25:59,563 --> 02:26:01,131
We have a lot of folks that

4317
02:26:01,131 --> 02:26:01,732
are on fixed incomes,

4318
02:26:01,732 --> 02:26:02,299
especially the elderly

4319
02:26:02,299 --> 02:26:02,965
community that can't

4320
02:26:02,965 --> 02:26:05,365
necessarily afford an extra

4321
02:26:06,169 --> 02:26:06,770
$100 a month or $200 a month.

4322
02:26:06,770 --> 02:26:09,770
Ari? I'm sorry year. My

4323
02:26:10,774 --> 02:26:11,441
apologies. I misspoke there. I

4324
02:26:11,441 --> 02:26:12,176
say that say I I cannot

4325
02:26:12,176 --> 02:26:15,120
support a proposal is going to

4326
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,214
be such a hit. Tremendous

4327
02:26:17,214 --> 02:26:18,415
increase and so he's going to

4328
02:26:18,415 --> 02:26:19,850
take such negative effect on

4329
02:26:19,850 --> 02:26:20,518
so many people. So I think if

4330
02:26:20,518 --> 02:26:21,251
we're going to do this, we

4331
02:26:21,251 --> 02:26:24,251
should let community have more

4332
02:26:24,454 --> 02:26:25,550
of a say on this than

4333
02:26:25,550 --> 02:26:26,490
introducing a one-month

4334
02:26:26,490 --> 02:26:27,491
passing at the next and all

4335
02:26:27,491 --> 02:26:28,192
because we have to get to

4336
02:26:28,192 --> 02:26:29,326
SEPTEMBER. We've known about

4337
02:26:29,326 --> 02:26:30,280
this for well longer than when

4338
02:26:30,280 --> 02:26:31,695
this has been around. So why

4339
02:26:31,695 --> 02:26:32,596
wasn't this put out well

4340
02:26:32,596 --> 02:26:33,297
before this? So we can have

4341
02:26:33,297 --> 02:26:36,466
time to talk to the community

4342
02:26:36,466 --> 02:26:37,350
about this. We had that time,

4343
02:26:37,350 --> 02:26:38,535
maybe we could get to

4344
02:26:38,535 --> 02:26:39,336
somewhere we can support this

4345
02:26:39,336 --> 02:26:43,536
book doing on a month is not

4346
02:26:47,711 --> 02:26:50,711
right. Thank you. Thank you.

4347
02:26:50,814 --> 02:26:53,417
MADAM PRESIDENT. I was going

4348
02:26:53,417 --> 02:26:55,819
to speak tonight. Votes like

4349
02:26:55,819 --> 02:26:59,723
this are hard. It's a it's a

4350
02:26:59,723 --> 02:27:02,123
huge increase. In fact. $98.93

4351
02:27:04,528 --> 02:27:05,396
$1. Excuse me. 9, $3, increase

4352
02:27:05,396 --> 02:27:06,640
on myself. Quite frankly. I'm

4353
02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:08,433
one of those people who've

4354
02:27:08,433 --> 02:27:09,533
done it right. Use car paid

4355
02:27:09,533 --> 02:27:10,701
off early. As a matter of

4356
02:27:10,701 --> 02:27:14,301
fact, not to have those high

4357
02:27:14,905 --> 02:27:16,674
prices. But I couldn't put up

4358
02:27:16,674 --> 02:27:18,760
with the ignorance that's

4359
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:18,742
being preached over here about

4360
02:27:18,742 --> 02:27:22,800
some of this and trying to

4361
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:24,480
mislead the public. 2019 rtv,

4362
02:27:25,450 --> 02:27:27,850
6 Hawk said. Proposes regional

4363
02:27:29,921 --> 02:27:30,855
Infrastructure Fund. 2023 id

4364
02:27:30,855 --> 02:27:33,525
plans to push state to change

4365
02:27:33,525 --> 02:27:35,293
road funding formula. That's

4366
02:27:35,293 --> 02:27:36,661
just 2 articles. A quick

4367
02:27:36,661 --> 02:27:39,630
Google search. We have been

4368
02:27:39,630 --> 02:27:39,931
talking about this for years.

4369
02:27:39,931 --> 02:27:43,234
This is not new. This didn't

4370
02:27:43,234 --> 02:27:46,638
come out of nowhere. And when

4371
02:27:46,638 --> 02:27:48,673
you look at council Dems. When

4372
02:27:48,673 --> 02:27:50,676
I joined this council, we

4373
02:27:50,676 --> 02:27:51,476
receive off the heels of a

4374
02:27:51,476 --> 02:27:52,110
Republican administration. We

4375
02:27:52,110 --> 02:27:54,110
were spending 50 million

4376
02:27:54,346 --> 02:27:56,648
dollars a year on roads. We've

4377
02:27:56,648 --> 02:27:57,348
had multiple years of

4378
02:27:57,348 --> 02:27:59,348
250 million, 300 million-plus

4379
02:28:00,919 --> 02:28:03,919
without any increases. You now

4380
02:28:04,255 --> 02:28:05,456
have a state that is cutting.

4381
02:28:05,456 --> 02:28:06,900
Revenue from the city of

4382
02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:07,225
Indianapolis. I think 40,

4383
02:28:07,225 --> 02:28:09,160
50 million last year.

4384
02:28:09,160 --> 02:28:11,462
Understand the governor has

4385
02:28:11,462 --> 02:28:12,130
some plans for next year.

4386
02:28:12,130 --> 02:28:15,130
Money just doesn't come off

4387
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:16,735
trees. You're literally the

4388
02:28:16,735 --> 02:28:18,970
other side of Market Street is

4389
02:28:18,970 --> 02:28:19,671
putting us in a in a very

4390
02:28:19,671 --> 02:28:21,671
extreme financial, difficult

4391
02:28:23,476 --> 02:28:24,342
position. There's no doubt

4392
02:28:24,342 --> 02:28:25,443
that there are more cuts to be

4393
02:28:25,443 --> 02:28:26,378
made. And there's no doubt

4394
02:28:26,378 --> 02:28:27,460
that those cuts are probably

4395
02:28:27,460 --> 02:28:30,646
going to be happening as we

4396
02:28:32,183 --> 02:28:32,918
move forward with the budget.

4397
02:28:32,918 --> 02:28:34,887
The other thing I want to say,

4398
02:28:34,887 --> 02:28:36,589
I want to highlight one win.

4399
02:28:36,589 --> 02:28:37,757
When folks sit here and talk

4400
02:28:37,757 --> 02:28:38,456
about how unfair this this

4401
02:28:38,456 --> 02:28:41,126
will taxes and it absolutely

4402
02:28:41,126 --> 02:28:42,194
is. It's ridiculous. Why

4403
02:28:42,194 --> 02:28:44,829
should I have to pay more

4404
02:28:44,829 --> 02:28:45,564
while people making $20300,000

4405
02:28:45,564 --> 02:28:47,700
are actually going last or not

4406
02:28:47,700 --> 02:28:48,367
even pay what I pay because

4407
02:28:48,367 --> 02:28:50,367
they're driving Cadillacs.

4408
02:28:51,837 --> 02:28:53,172
Mercedes and BMWs makes no

4409
02:28:53,172 --> 02:28:54,773
sense. But did any of them go

4410
02:28:54,773 --> 02:28:55,641
over there and testify on the

4411
02:28:55,641 --> 02:28:56,308
other side of Market Street

4412
02:28:56,308 --> 02:28:58,978
when they were putting this

4413
02:28:58,978 --> 02:29:01,378
proposal together. I don't

4414
02:29:02,448 --> 02:29:03,215
think so. People behind doors,

4415
02:29:03,215 --> 02:29:06,815
they came up with the the

4416
02:29:08,487 --> 02:29:10,289
match. They act like this was

4417
02:29:10,289 --> 02:29:12,391
not meant to be. There's a

4418
02:29:12,391 --> 02:29:13,325
reason why all the regional

4419
02:29:13,325 --> 02:29:15,227
place municipalities around

4420
02:29:15,227 --> 02:29:15,961
state of Indiana are

4421
02:29:15,961 --> 02:29:17,163
increasing the real tax. It is

4422
02:29:17,163 --> 02:29:20,163
the expectation of the General

4423
02:29:20,799 --> 02:29:21,500
Assembly. That is why they

4424
02:29:21,500 --> 02:29:23,202
change the wheel tax and made

4425
02:29:23,202 --> 02:29:25,602
it $100 straight feet. Not

4426
02:29:25,838 --> 02:29:27,773
fair, not equitable. So

4427
02:29:27,773 --> 02:29:28,908
anybody trying to tell you

4428
02:29:28,908 --> 02:29:30,676
something different is full of

4429
02:29:30,676 --> 02:29:32,111
it and I hope you call him out

4430
02:29:32,111 --> 02:29:34,146
on. They absolutely know what

4431
02:29:34,146 --> 02:29:35,848
the expectation over there is.

4432
02:29:35,848 --> 02:29:36,549
And there's anger in me

4433
02:29:36,549 --> 02:29:38,151
because I don't want to have

4434
02:29:38,151 --> 02:29:41,751
to vote for this. It is

4435
02:29:41,921 --> 02:29:43,956
ridiculous. But at some of my

4436
02:29:43,956 --> 02:29:44,558
colleagues had this year, I

4437
02:29:44,558 --> 02:29:48,158
had a flat tire from a

4438
02:29:50,597 --> 02:29:51,264
possible. $250. It's also

4439
02:29:51,264 --> 02:29:53,664
thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

4440
02:29:53,968 --> 02:29:56,236
thank you. Counts. Cancer

4441
02:29:56,236 --> 02:29:58,636
heart. Thank you. MADAM

4442
02:29:58,772 --> 02:30:01,172
PRESIDENT. Every couple of

4443
02:30:02,542 --> 02:30:03,243
things tonight. One thing I

4444
02:30:03,243 --> 02:30:05,412
just recently heard was quote

4445
02:30:05,412 --> 02:30:06,146
from Mayor Hogsett the most

4446
02:30:06,146 --> 02:30:08,215
recent. What we have for Mayor

4447
02:30:08,215 --> 02:30:08,882
Hogsett is that he does not

4448
02:30:08,882 --> 02:30:12,482
think we need to raise the

4449
02:30:12,486 --> 02:30:15,188
will tax. And if I want to

4450
02:30:15,188 --> 02:30:15,856
look at this chamber, I would

4451
02:30:15,856 --> 02:30:16,957
look at this chambers who's

4452
02:30:16,957 --> 02:30:19,860
had a super majority since

4453
02:30:19,860 --> 02:30:22,260
2020. Look at chamber who's

4454
02:30:25,465 --> 02:30:26,166
had a majority since 2015. I'm

4455
02:30:26,166 --> 02:30:29,200
not gonna use the phrase that

4456
02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:29,736
keeps being used. But when we

4457
02:30:29,736 --> 02:30:32,736
talk about what the Republican

4458
02:30:33,574 --> 02:30:34,308
legislature did, what they did

4459
02:30:34,308 --> 02:30:36,710
is they looked at the spending

4460
02:30:36,710 --> 02:30:39,450
of this council and they gave

4461
02:30:39,450 --> 02:30:41,214
an opportunity to get a match.

4462
02:30:41,214 --> 02:30:44,214
They gave an opportunity to

4463
02:30:45,118 --> 02:30:46,720
get its priorities straight.

4464
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:47,354
Because clearly we have a

4465
02:30:47,354 --> 02:30:49,322
majority since 2015 and a

4466
02:30:49,322 --> 02:30:51,722
super majority since 2020 and

4467
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:53,326
you still can't get the

4468
02:30:53,326 --> 02:30:54,940
funding right. And the state

4469
02:30:54,940 --> 02:30:54,794
still comes to save you and

4470
02:30:54,794 --> 02:30:56,596
gives you an opportunity. But

4471
02:30:56,596 --> 02:30:57,330
another 50 million dollars by

4472
02:30:57,330 --> 02:30:59,650
just matching that and getting

4473
02:30:59,650 --> 02:31:00,835
more year year. That's a great

4474
02:31:00,835 --> 02:31:03,835
opportunity. And we don't talk

4475
02:31:05,539 --> 02:31:07,541
about. Misleading the public.

4476
02:31:07,541 --> 02:31:08,642
I went to a handful of

4477
02:31:08,642 --> 02:31:10,778
committee meetings. I've seen

4478
02:31:10,778 --> 02:31:11,912
multiple press conference or

4479
02:31:11,912 --> 02:31:13,470
press releases that we're

4480
02:31:13,470 --> 02:31:13,748
telling the public that this

4481
02:31:13,748 --> 02:31:15,583
has to be a new tax that has

4482
02:31:15,583 --> 02:31:17,170
to be a new tax. This is not

4483
02:31:17,170 --> 02:31:18,853
have to be a new tax. I've

4484
02:31:18,853 --> 02:31:19,587
talked with the Legislature.

4485
02:31:19,587 --> 02:31:23,157
It just means come up with the

4486
02:31:23,157 --> 02:31:23,790
money. The mayor knows that.

4487
02:31:23,790 --> 02:31:26,594
That's why said he's not

4488
02:31:26,594 --> 02:31:29,594
raising these. So we talk

4489
02:31:30,765 --> 02:31:32,166
about timeline. The same

4490
02:31:32,166 --> 02:31:34,566
council myself included on

4491
02:31:34,702 --> 02:31:36,470
this one, spent more time.

4492
02:31:36,470 --> 02:31:37,271
Putting together a snow

4493
02:31:37,271 --> 02:31:39,207
policy. Then we did take in

4494
02:31:39,207 --> 02:31:41,207
consideration. From the

4495
02:31:42,900 --> 02:31:45,900
public. We did some good

4496
02:31:46,180 --> 02:31:47,810
public hearings give you that.

4497
02:31:47,810 --> 02:31:47,783
What we're going to do to

4498
02:31:47,783 --> 02:31:48,449
raise their taxes, something

4499
02:31:48,449 --> 02:31:51,449
that in 7 years I've never

4500
02:31:51,753 --> 02:31:52,487
done this council. It's it's a

4501
02:31:52,487 --> 02:31:53,221
pretty big deal. But he's been

4502
02:31:53,221 --> 02:31:54,689
more to you at how we're going

4503
02:31:54,689 --> 02:31:58,289
to remove their snow. That to

4504
02:31:58,926 --> 02:32:00,610
me. Are not street priorities.

4505
02:32:00,610 --> 02:32:00,661
Going back to what our state

4506
02:32:00,661 --> 02:32:02,263
legislatures giving the

4507
02:32:02,263 --> 02:32:05,263
opportunity to do here. So.

4508
02:32:05,600 --> 02:32:06,501
Let's be very clear that.

4509
02:32:06,501 --> 02:32:07,168
There is no time rush. We do

4510
02:32:07,168 --> 02:32:07,835
have the money. The mayors

4511
02:32:07,835 --> 02:32:09,300
telling us the controller's

4512
02:32:09,300 --> 02:32:11,305
office telling us who's had

4513
02:32:11,305 --> 02:32:12,600
studies had consultants we can

4514
02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:13,674
get to next year. You've got

4515
02:32:13,674 --> 02:32:14,675
the time to look at. He's even

4516
02:32:14,675 --> 02:32:16,430
tells get past one more year.

4517
02:32:16,430 --> 02:32:18,713
You can still look at it. We

4518
02:32:18,713 --> 02:32:19,247
have these opportunities to

4519
02:32:19,247 --> 02:32:19,881
look at the natural

4520
02:32:19,881 --> 02:32:21,716
appreciation of the covid

4521
02:32:21,716 --> 02:32:24,385
that's going to come in. And

4522
02:32:24,385 --> 02:32:25,419
we have the opportunity cut.

4523
02:32:25,419 --> 02:32:26,530
I've been here year like last

4524
02:32:26,530 --> 02:32:28,222
year. Spent a ridiculous

4525
02:32:28,222 --> 02:32:29,858
amount time looking at

4526
02:32:29,858 --> 02:32:32,258
Supplemental County Income Tax

4527
02:32:33,295 --> 02:32:34,529
and giving amendments on that.

4528
02:32:34,529 --> 02:32:35,898
Those were dollars, right? We

4529
02:32:35,898 --> 02:32:36,631
did a good job dollars this

4530
02:32:36,631 --> 02:32:39,000
year. Last year put 10 million

4531
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:40,335
in the budget for next year.

4532
02:32:40,335 --> 02:32:43,935
So will have to come up

4533
02:32:44,239 --> 02:32:44,940
40 Million. So I think there's

4534
02:32:44,940 --> 02:32:45,740
a lot of opportunity. We have

4535
02:32:45,740 --> 02:32:47,809
one of those biggest

4536
02:32:47,809 --> 02:32:48,443
opportunities as we don't have

4537
02:32:48,443 --> 02:32:51,113
to raise the wheel tax on

4538
02:32:51,113 --> 02:32:51,780
people this evening,

4539
02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:53,480
especially when the thing I

4540
02:32:53,480 --> 02:32:57,520
hear the most in my email is

4541
02:32:57,520 --> 02:32:57,753
don't raise the tax. So.

4542
02:32:57,753 --> 02:32:59,855
That's the word I'm going to

4543
02:32:59,855 --> 02:33:00,789
be asking tonight is a no

4544
02:33:00,789 --> 02:33:01,490
towards raising taxes for all

4545
02:33:01,490 --> 02:33:04,260
those various reasons. I just

4546
02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:06,426
said today that PRESIDENT.

4547
02:33:09,431 --> 02:33:10,132
Vice PRESIDENT Barth. Thank

4548
02:33:10,132 --> 02:33:13,132
you, MADAM PRESIDENT, let me

4549
02:33:15,804 --> 02:33:18,804
start. Just by thinking cancer

4550
02:33:18,841 --> 02:33:19,975
Nielsen for digging in on this

4551
02:33:19,975 --> 02:33:20,676
and for his leadership in my

4552
02:33:20,676 --> 02:33:21,677
time in the council has seen

4553
02:33:21,677 --> 02:33:23,145
few people who have dug into

4554
02:33:23,145 --> 02:33:26,145
the budget. It with such

4555
02:33:27,150 --> 02:33:29,510
detail and precision as he

4556
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:30,419
has. He doing yeoman's job to

4557
02:33:30,419 --> 02:33:31,220
get in on this, preparing this

4558
02:33:31,220 --> 02:33:32,154
working with the General

4559
02:33:32,154 --> 02:33:32,855
Assembly and getting out in

4560
02:33:32,855 --> 02:33:35,255
the community and explaining

4561
02:33:35,958 --> 02:33:36,625
what we're doing. So thanks.

4562
02:33:36,625 --> 02:33:37,226
Thanks. Cancel Nielsen you

4563
02:33:37,226 --> 02:33:39,896
deserve a lot of credit

4564
02:33:39,896 --> 02:33:42,164
forgetting here tonight. My

4565
02:33:42,164 --> 02:33:43,310
comments are that the poor

4566
02:33:43,310 --> 02:33:43,665
condition of Indianapolis

4567
02:33:43,665 --> 02:33:44,734
roads is not a matter of

4568
02:33:44,734 --> 02:33:47,734
opinion. It's a matter of

4569
02:33:47,736 --> 02:33:49,705
record years of chronic

4570
02:33:49,705 --> 02:33:50,772
underinvestment have left our

4571
02:33:50,772 --> 02:33:52,542
infrastructure and the state

4572
02:33:52,542 --> 02:33:53,642
of serious deterioration,

4573
02:33:53,642 --> 02:33:54,276
imposing real costs on

4574
02:33:54,276 --> 02:33:54,978
residents, businesses and

4575
02:33:54,978 --> 02:33:56,978
long-term competitiveness of

4576
02:33:58,314 --> 02:33:58,982
our city. The question before

4577
02:33:58,982 --> 02:33:59,748
this council is not whether

4578
02:33:59,748 --> 02:34:02,619
action is needed. It's whether

4579
02:34:02,619 --> 02:34:03,919
we have the will to act. The

4580
02:34:03,919 --> 02:34:04,821
state of Indiana has answer

4581
02:34:04,821 --> 02:34:06,822
that question with the

4582
02:34:06,822 --> 02:34:08,124
commitment of its own 50

4583
02:34:08,124 --> 02:34:10,524
manual and 50 million annually

4584
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:13,463
in matching funds available to

4585
02:34:13,463 --> 02:34:14,164
Indianapolis. But only if the

4586
02:34:14,164 --> 02:34:16,299
city demonstrates a sustained

4587
02:34:16,299 --> 02:34:17,133
credible local funding match.

4588
02:34:17,133 --> 02:34:19,533
That requirement goes year

4589
02:34:19,969 --> 02:34:21,871
every year through 2031, a

4590
02:34:21,871 --> 02:34:23,973
short term fix will not

4591
02:34:23,973 --> 02:34:24,641
satisfied a short term fix

4592
02:34:24,641 --> 02:34:27,377
will not satisfy. Let's not

4593
02:34:27,377 --> 02:34:28,110
pretend that it well, only a

4594
02:34:28,110 --> 02:34:30,110
durable long-term funding

4595
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:33,800
structure. Well. Proposal, one

4596
02:34:33,449 --> 02:34:34,784
92 provides exactly that. And

4597
02:34:34,784 --> 02:34:36,519
I want to place this proposal

4598
02:34:36,519 --> 02:34:38,421
and its proper historical

4599
02:34:38,421 --> 02:34:39,722
context in the decade since,

4600
02:34:39,722 --> 02:34:41,257
you know, got unified the city

4601
02:34:41,257 --> 02:34:43,560
and county governments in

4602
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:44,494
1970, no administration and no

4603
02:34:44,494 --> 02:34:46,462
council has put forward a

4604
02:34:46,462 --> 02:34:48,298
comprehensive long-term road

4605
02:34:48,298 --> 02:34:49,980
funding plan. We've had

4606
02:34:49,980 --> 02:34:50,600
studies we've had short term

4607
02:34:50,600 --> 02:34:51,434
appropriations. We've had good

4608
02:34:51,434 --> 02:34:53,834
intentions, but we've never

4609
02:34:55,338 --> 02:34:56,673
had until now a sustainable

4610
02:34:56,673 --> 02:34:58,708
framework for addressing road

4611
02:34:58,708 --> 02:34:59,442
infrastructure as a

4612
02:34:59,442 --> 02:35:00,143
generational obligation rather

4613
02:35:00,143 --> 02:35:03,143
than an agile annual budget.

4614
02:35:03,781 --> 02:35:05,548
Problem. I recognize that

4615
02:35:05,548 --> 02:35:06,750
asking Indianapolis residents

4616
02:35:06,750 --> 02:35:08,351
to contribute more at a time

4617
02:35:08,351 --> 02:35:08,952
when household budgets are

4618
02:35:08,952 --> 02:35:10,721
already under pressure

4619
02:35:10,721 --> 02:35:12,721
requires justification. The

4620
02:35:13,457 --> 02:35:16,457
justification is this the cost

4621
02:35:17,427 --> 02:35:19,290
of inaction is not 0. It has

4622
02:35:19,290 --> 02:35:19,763
paid every day by residents

4623
02:35:19,763 --> 02:35:22,163
whose vehicle sustained damage

4624
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:23,666
and deteriorating roads by

4625
02:35:23,666 --> 02:35:26,660
neighborhoods that bear the

4626
02:35:26,136 --> 02:35:26,871
burden of deferred maintenance

4627
02:35:26,871 --> 02:35:28,639
and by a city that contributes

4628
02:35:28,639 --> 02:35:30,700
that continues to fall further

4629
02:35:30,700 --> 02:35:32,407
behind the proposed fees

4630
02:35:32,576 --> 02:35:34,712
represent an investment one

4631
02:35:34,712 --> 02:35:36,413
that combined with the state

4632
02:35:36,413 --> 02:35:37,481
match will generate a

4633
02:35:37,481 --> 02:35:39,881
projected 856 million in road

4634
02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:41,585
improvements over 5 years.

4635
02:35:41,585 --> 02:35:42,286
That is a dramatic

4636
02:35:42,286 --> 02:35:44,540
improvement. And what we can

4637
02:35:44,540 --> 02:35:46,123
expect in our roads in the

4638
02:35:46,123 --> 02:35:47,191
coming years. That's council

4639
02:35:47,191 --> 02:35:49,193
has before an opportunity that

4640
02:35:49,193 --> 02:35:51,395
no previous council has

4641
02:35:51,395 --> 02:35:52,396
ceased. The state has provided

4642
02:35:52,396 --> 02:35:54,320
a mechanism. The funding is

4643
02:35:54,320 --> 02:35:56,432
available. That deadline is

4644
02:35:56,800 --> 02:35:59,800
real. I support proposal one

4645
02:35:59,970 --> 02:36:00,638
92 and I'm confident that when

4646
02:36:00,638 --> 02:36:01,338
Indianapolis looks back on

4647
02:36:01,338 --> 02:36:02,600
this moment, it will be

4648
02:36:02,600 --> 02:36:03,874
remembered at that point in

4649
02:36:03,874 --> 02:36:04,508
which we finally chose to lead

4650
02:36:04,508 --> 02:36:07,508
on a critical issue that

4651
02:36:09,180 --> 02:36:11,182
affects everyone. Thank you,

4652
02:36:11,182 --> 02:36:12,883
MADAM PRESIDENT, thank Bp

4653
02:36:12,883 --> 02:36:14,952
Council Roberts, thank you.

4654
02:36:14,952 --> 02:36:15,886
MADAM PRESIDENT, I come here

4655
02:36:15,886 --> 02:36:17,655
today with, you know, the

4656
02:36:17,655 --> 02:36:19,557
clearly this is a very, very

4657
02:36:19,557 --> 02:36:20,257
hard vote. Think this MAY be

4658
02:36:20,257 --> 02:36:21,492
the heart. So we are taken as

4659
02:36:21,492 --> 02:36:23,594
a body. My years on the

4660
02:36:23,594 --> 02:36:24,863
council. But honestly,

4661
02:36:24,863 --> 02:36:25,563
simultaneously, I had the most

4662
02:36:25,563 --> 02:36:26,898
clearly on this. But I think

4663
02:36:26,898 --> 02:36:28,899
any vote I've ever cast as a

4664
02:36:28,899 --> 02:36:31,680
counselor. I just start off

4665
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:31,969
saying in JANUARY when we were

4666
02:36:31,969 --> 02:36:32,838
starting to think about this,

4667
02:36:32,838 --> 02:36:34,772
I had a survey of my

4668
02:36:34,772 --> 02:36:35,773
constituents that 500 people

4669
02:36:35,773 --> 02:36:37,773
took Democrats, Republicans,

4670
02:36:39,211 --> 02:36:40,512
independents multi knisley and

4671
02:36:40,512 --> 02:36:41,745
81% of people support of this.

4672
02:36:41,745 --> 02:36:42,414
Now, a few weeks ago, ida

4673
02:36:42,414 --> 02:36:44,348
follow-up survey which 300

4674
02:36:44,348 --> 02:36:46,551
people responded to and still

4675
02:36:46,551 --> 02:36:48,620
63%. People responded to. And

4676
02:36:48,620 --> 02:36:50,789
the feedback on that was

4677
02:36:50,789 --> 02:36:51,456
amazing. They will also

4678
02:36:51,456 --> 02:36:52,123
mention going door to door.

4679
02:36:52,123 --> 02:36:53,325
When I talk to people about

4680
02:36:53,325 --> 02:36:54,626
people that are posed to me

4681
02:36:54,626 --> 02:36:55,327
about this a lot of times by

4682
02:36:55,327 --> 02:36:56,495
the end of it, we're able to

4683
02:36:56,495 --> 02:36:58,663
have a really good

4684
02:36:58,663 --> 02:36:59,364
conversation because I think

4685
02:36:59,364 --> 02:37:00,432
they're able to realize a lot

4686
02:37:00,432 --> 02:37:01,700
of things that we all wish

4687
02:37:01,700 --> 02:37:03,401
that we could do. We all wish

4688
02:37:03,401 --> 02:37:05,270
we could change the road for

4689
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:06,400
funding formula. We wish we

4690
02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:06,705
could tax marijuana. We should

4691
02:37:06,705 --> 02:37:07,439
get tax data centers. We wish

4692
02:37:07,439 --> 02:37:09,307
there were things the we could

4693
02:37:09,307 --> 02:37:12,177
do simultaneously on this that

4694
02:37:12,177 --> 02:37:13,144
we're just not able to do. I

4695
02:37:13,144 --> 02:37:13,912
do truly believe this is the

4696
02:37:13,912 --> 02:37:15,981
best tool in our toolbox to

4697
02:37:15,981 --> 02:37:17,115
work on these road funding

4698
02:37:17,115 --> 02:37:18,650
issues. This is by far the

4699
02:37:18,650 --> 02:37:19,351
biggest issue we face as a

4700
02:37:19,351 --> 02:37:22,587
city. And the reality is like

4701
02:37:22,587 --> 02:37:23,321
has been highlighted. People

4702
02:37:23,321 --> 02:37:24,556
are already paying every

4703
02:37:24,556 --> 02:37:27,959
single year for bad roads and

4704
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:28,627
people. Pothole. That is an

4705
02:37:28,627 --> 02:37:30,627
unpredicted outcome they'll

4706
02:37:31,329 --> 02:37:34,232
have in their budget. I also

4707
02:37:34,232 --> 02:37:36,632
disagree with counselor band

4708
02:37:38,360 --> 02:37:38,770
his point. I am very much an

4709
02:37:38,770 --> 02:37:39,437
advocate. There are definitely

4710
02:37:39,437 --> 02:37:40,740
some agencies. Look at the

4711
02:37:40,740 --> 02:37:42,542
budgets. Very tough and tough

4712
02:37:42,542 --> 02:37:44,943
way to cut things. And they're

4713
02:37:44,943 --> 02:37:46,978
definitely, you know, probably

4714
02:37:46,978 --> 02:37:48,914
10's of million dollars we can

4715
02:37:48,914 --> 02:37:49,881
cut. But 1 million dollars

4716
02:37:49,881 --> 02:37:52,500
here. 1 million dollars. There

4717
02:37:52,500 --> 02:37:53,718
is very hard way to get

4718
02:37:53,718 --> 02:37:54,419
100 million dollars and also

4719
02:37:54,419 --> 02:37:55,860
give example, you know, a lot

4720
02:37:55,860 --> 02:37:57,522
of the agency we have impd

4721
02:37:57,522 --> 02:37:59,491
parks, Fire Department, the

4722
02:37:59,491 --> 02:38:00,693
reality of cutting agencies

4723
02:38:00,693 --> 02:38:01,594
like that is having parks like

4724
02:38:01,594 --> 02:38:03,628
in my district, some park

4725
02:38:03,628 --> 02:38:06,364
where able to open the summer

4726
02:38:06,364 --> 02:38:07,867
because we can't staff the

4727
02:38:07,867 --> 02:38:08,734
park manager and the people

4728
02:38:08,734 --> 02:38:09,435
that are there. And the

4729
02:38:09,435 --> 02:38:10,680
reality is, I think a lot of

4730
02:38:10,680 --> 02:38:10,703
times the study, there's

4731
02:38:10,703 --> 02:38:11,370
millions and millions of

4732
02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:14,970
dollars to cut. It is very,

4733
02:38:15,700 --> 02:38:15,708
very hard to do. And I would

4734
02:38:15,708 --> 02:38:17,777
love it if we could have some

4735
02:38:17,777 --> 02:38:18,444
kind of interactive to Shore

4736
02:38:18,444 --> 02:38:19,846
City budget, let people cut

4737
02:38:19,846 --> 02:38:21,981
themselves. Look at individual

4738
02:38:21,981 --> 02:38:23,830
programs. A lot harder

4739
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:23,683
actually do yourself. And yes,

4740
02:38:23,683 --> 02:38:26,830
there's still things we

4741
02:38:26,586 --> 02:38:27,286
absolutely should be doing,

4742
02:38:27,286 --> 02:38:28,521
but really, truly to dedicate

4743
02:38:28,521 --> 02:38:29,689
the money. We need to have

4744
02:38:29,689 --> 02:38:30,356
better roads in our city. It

4745
02:38:30,356 --> 02:38:32,325
will take courage. It will

4746
02:38:32,325 --> 02:38:33,292
take a leadership and they

4747
02:38:33,292 --> 02:38:35,795
really do give credit councils

4748
02:38:35,795 --> 02:38:36,562
and forth on this said, you

4749
02:38:36,562 --> 02:38:37,196
truly think it be a

4750
02:38:37,196 --> 02:38:37,897
generational mistake. We

4751
02:38:37,897 --> 02:38:39,732
passed on this investment for

4752
02:38:39,732 --> 02:38:42,132
better roads. Thank you.

4753
02:38:45,505 --> 02:38:46,105
Castor grapes. Thank you.

4754
02:38:46,105 --> 02:38:46,906
MADAM PRESIDENT, MADAM

4755
02:38:46,906 --> 02:38:49,906
PRESIDENT, if you don't mind

4756
02:38:50,209 --> 02:38:52,912
me, I look to bring in the

4757
02:38:52,912 --> 02:38:54,912
voice particular constituents

4758
02:38:56,150 --> 02:38:56,883
that I spoke spoke with a few

4759
02:38:56,883 --> 02:38:58,651
months ago. And I share with

4760
02:38:58,651 --> 02:39:00,787
my colleagues and are in our

4761
02:39:00,787 --> 02:39:04,570
caucus. But it was a standard

4762
02:39:04,570 --> 02:39:05,625
call about a pothole client,

4763
02:39:05,625 --> 02:39:07,625
student constituent upset.

4764
02:39:08,794 --> 02:39:10,229
Initially I thought it was

4765
02:39:10,229 --> 02:39:12,980
routine. But as as I listened

4766
02:39:12,980 --> 02:39:15,698
to her share her story, looks

4767
02:39:15,936 --> 02:39:17,803
like not only did it damage or

4768
02:39:17,803 --> 02:39:20,107
tire, but it sure electronic

4769
02:39:20,107 --> 02:39:22,309
sensor and her alignment. So

4770
02:39:22,309 --> 02:39:24,709
this bill was ultimately

4771
02:39:26,130 --> 02:39:26,979
$1400. And what struck me was

4772
02:39:26,979 --> 02:39:27,680
she shared that she didn't

4773
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:29,583
really know how she was going

4774
02:39:29,583 --> 02:39:33,586
to repair that. And she was a

4775
02:39:33,586 --> 02:39:34,254
mother children. So MADAM

4776
02:39:34,254 --> 02:39:36,254
PRESIDENT, its constituents

4777
02:39:36,957 --> 02:39:37,624
like her that I want to

4778
02:39:37,624 --> 02:39:40,940
acknowledge and that is why

4779
02:39:40,940 --> 02:39:42,494
I'm supporting this proposal.

4780
02:39:43,630 --> 02:39:43,765
This will Texas or Texas. The

4781
02:39:43,765 --> 02:39:44,431
only way for us to meet the

4782
02:39:44,431 --> 02:39:46,431
requirements established by

4783
02:39:46,967 --> 02:39:47,668
the state legislature and

4784
02:39:47,668 --> 02:39:50,680
received that state matching

4785
02:39:50,404 --> 02:39:51,104
funds that necessary to make

4786
02:39:51,104 --> 02:39:53,504
meaningful investments in our

4787
02:39:54,575 --> 02:39:55,242
roads. But also, MADAM

4788
02:39:55,242 --> 02:39:58,111
PRESIDENT, want to be clear

4789
02:39:58,111 --> 02:40:00,214
about my expectations. I do

4790
02:40:00,214 --> 02:40:01,582
know that and I want those who

4791
02:40:01,582 --> 02:40:03,951
don't know to understand that

4792
02:40:03,951 --> 02:40:04,686
every dollar that we receive

4793
02:40:04,686 --> 02:40:06,353
for one purpose and that's our

4794
02:40:06,353 --> 02:40:09,353
roads. No other projects. With

4795
02:40:09,389 --> 02:40:11,580
that being said, I want to

4796
02:40:11,580 --> 02:40:11,725
make sure MADAM PRESIDENT that

4797
02:40:11,725 --> 02:40:14,294
the East side received the

4798
02:40:14,294 --> 02:40:15,562
attention it deserves.

4799
02:40:15,562 --> 02:40:16,497
Residents have waited far too

4800
02:40:16,497 --> 02:40:19,900
long for better streets on the

4801
02:40:19,900 --> 02:40:20,568
east side. We fought. We

4802
02:40:20,568 --> 02:40:22,968
continue to 5 will continue

4803
02:40:25,874 --> 02:40:26,608
that. Everyone in this process

4804
02:40:26,608 --> 02:40:29,800
accountable for delivering the

4805
02:40:29,711 --> 02:40:32,450
results. We see. Indianapolis

4806
02:40:32,450 --> 02:40:33,413
is a world-class city in the

4807
02:40:33,413 --> 02:40:35,884
east side is on the rise. I

4808
02:40:35,884 --> 02:40:36,551
encourage all come visit.

4809
02:40:36,551 --> 02:40:37,584
We've got some great, great

4810
02:40:37,584 --> 02:40:40,584
things on the side. Our

4811
02:40:42,624 --> 02:40:43,590
streets, though. They're

4812
02:40:43,590 --> 02:40:45,990
they're lacking. We've got 4

4813
02:40:48,610 --> 02:40:48,763
parks in my specific district.

4814
02:40:48,763 --> 02:40:50,864
The streets that access each

4815
02:40:50,864 --> 02:40:51,466
of those parks or in the worst

4816
02:40:51,466 --> 02:40:53,866
conditions that you can

4817
02:41:00,808 --> 02:41:01,476
imagine. We need this funding.

4818
02:41:01,476 --> 02:41:02,911
Our residents deserve roads

4819
02:41:02,911 --> 02:41:03,611
that are safe, reliable and

4820
02:41:03,611 --> 02:41:06,948
worthy of the city that we're

4821
02:41:06,948 --> 02:41:07,916
building. So for that reason,

4822
02:41:07,916 --> 02:41:10,718
I'll be voting support. This

4823
02:41:10,718 --> 02:41:13,118
proposal. Thank Thank you.

4824
02:41:16,257 --> 02:41:18,657
Sharon Perkins. Thank MADAM

4825
02:41:20,610 --> 02:41:22,831
PRESIDENT. We have engage in

4826
02:41:22,831 --> 02:41:25,231
discussion over the pass 30,

4827
02:41:25,867 --> 02:41:29,467
40 days. And I think out said

4828
02:41:30,839 --> 02:41:31,573
enough. But I feel compelled

4829
02:41:31,573 --> 02:41:34,509
tonight just to make a general

4830
02:41:34,509 --> 02:41:36,909
statement. If it wasn't 9.41,

4831
02:41:39,800 --> 02:41:40,114
I would dress. This

4832
02:41:40,114 --> 02:41:42,417
conversation around the way to

4833
02:41:42,417 --> 02:41:43,850
address issue of

4834
02:41:43,850 --> 02:41:45,850
infrastructure is attack

4835
02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:50,880
equity and diversity. And its

4836
02:41:55,430 --> 02:41:59,300
interest and from home that k.

4837
02:42:03,938 --> 02:42:06,338
But it's 9.41 Leaders lead.

4838
02:42:07,942 --> 02:42:10,746
You elected us. To lead in

4839
02:42:10,746 --> 02:42:13,146
difficult situations. This is

4840
02:42:14,415 --> 02:42:16,318
a difficult situation. I spent

4841
02:42:16,318 --> 02:42:19,918
a lot of time traveling across

4842
02:42:23,325 --> 02:42:23,893
this country. In cities.

4843
02:42:23,893 --> 02:42:24,627
Similar smaller than

4844
02:42:24,627 --> 02:42:27,627
Indianapolis. And every time I

4845
02:42:28,597 --> 02:42:29,331
fly back home, I draw home.

4846
02:42:29,331 --> 02:42:32,331
I'm reminded off the condition

4847
02:42:34,537 --> 02:42:36,105
of for infrastructure. I

4848
02:42:36,105 --> 02:42:39,705
wonder as the council can we

4849
02:42:40,209 --> 02:42:42,478
imagine a better Indianapolis?

4850
02:42:42,478 --> 02:42:46,780
i wonder if we can imagine.

4851
02:42:46,348 --> 02:42:49,180
City county. Where we are

4852
02:42:49,180 --> 02:42:49,885
proud to live here. But we are

4853
02:42:49,885 --> 02:42:52,885
also proud to welcome people

4854
02:42:53,455 --> 02:42:55,855
here to visit. Infrastructure

4855
02:42:58,260 --> 02:42:58,861
needs work. And I encourage us

4856
02:42:58,861 --> 02:43:00,729
as I'm supporting this

4857
02:43:00,729 --> 02:43:03,129
proposal tonight. To consider

4858
02:43:03,766 --> 02:43:06,268
what it looks like. For us to

4859
02:43:06,268 --> 02:43:06,969
have a better Indianapolis.

4860
02:43:06,969 --> 02:43:09,969
I'm also going challenge the

4861
02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:11,775
administration. Because we

4862
02:43:11,775 --> 02:43:14,430
have engage in this discussion

4863
02:43:14,430 --> 02:43:16,713
over the last 40 days. And

4864
02:43:16,713 --> 02:43:18,713
publicly. The administration

4865
02:43:19,615 --> 02:43:22,150
is shared. Unwillingness to

4866
02:43:22,185 --> 02:43:24,687
raise taxes. But have not

4867
02:43:24,687 --> 02:43:28,887
given a clear plan as to how

4868
02:43:29,192 --> 02:43:29,993
we get the match. Infants. As

4869
02:43:29,993 --> 02:43:32,993
a council. This proposal going

4870
02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:35,465
forward. To the people that

4871
02:43:35,465 --> 02:43:37,601
elected us give elected us to

4872
02:43:37,601 --> 02:43:39,469
make difficult decisions. And

4873
02:43:39,469 --> 02:43:43,690
tonight as one of those, thank

4874
02:43:44,941 --> 02:43:46,941
you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

4875
02:43:48,445 --> 02:43:50,180
CHAIRWOMAN Brown. Thank you,

4876
02:43:50,180 --> 02:43:51,681
MADAM PRESIDENT, I just want

4877
02:43:51,681 --> 02:43:52,682
to I ripped my colleagues have

4878
02:43:52,682 --> 02:43:54,284
said a lot. The one thing I do

4879
02:43:54,284 --> 02:43:56,353
want to say as somebody whose

4880
02:43:56,353 --> 02:43:58,210
district is entirely excluded

4881
02:43:58,210 --> 02:43:59,756
city. I live in, Lawrence, my

4882
02:43:59,756 --> 02:44:01,591
whole district is the city of

4883
02:44:01,591 --> 02:44:02,325
Lawrence. I can tell you I

4884
02:44:02,325 --> 02:44:04,694
know exactly how much money is

4885
02:44:04,694 --> 02:44:05,695
going. Go back to my district

4886
02:44:05,695 --> 02:44:07,164
City of Orange is going to

4887
02:44:07,164 --> 02:44:09,164
receive 3.8 million dollars

4888
02:44:09,366 --> 02:44:10,330
from this. And in

4889
02:44:10,330 --> 02:44:10,734
Indianapolis, that doesn't

4890
02:44:10,734 --> 02:44:11,468
sound like a lot. That's more

4891
02:44:11,468 --> 02:44:14,468
than 10% of the city's current

4892
02:44:14,905 --> 02:44:15,572
budget. That's gonna make a

4893
02:44:15,572 --> 02:44:17,541
heck of a different speech.

4894
02:44:17,541 --> 02:44:20,611
Grove is going to get over a

4895
02:44:20,611 --> 02:44:21,344
million dollars. Warren says

4896
02:44:21,344 --> 02:44:23,413
50,000 people beach Groves got

4897
02:44:23,413 --> 02:44:25,917
up about 8,000. I believe so.

4898
02:44:25,917 --> 02:44:26,918
That's quite a difference for

4899
02:44:26,918 --> 02:44:27,518
excluded. I'm not sure of the

4900
02:44:27,518 --> 02:44:28,151
numbers, a speedway or

4901
02:44:28,151 --> 02:44:30,887
Southport off the top. My

4902
02:44:30,887 --> 02:44:31,855
head. But this just doesn't

4903
02:44:31,855 --> 02:44:32,589
affect Indianapolis. It

4904
02:44:32,589 --> 02:44:34,624
affects all these other cities

4905
02:44:34,624 --> 02:44:38,328
who have been so hard by sb

4906
02:44:38,328 --> 02:44:39,162
One. And if what's being

4907
02:44:39,162 --> 02:44:41,640
talked about by people who are

4908
02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:42,966
entering the state house this

4909
02:44:42,966 --> 02:44:44,801
next session about cutting

4910
02:44:44,801 --> 02:44:47,104
property taxes or even

4911
02:44:47,104 --> 02:44:47,672
eliminating them excludes are

4912
02:44:47,672 --> 02:44:48,338
going to disappear in

4913
02:44:48,338 --> 02:44:50,374
Indianapolis is going to be

4914
02:44:50,374 --> 02:44:51,700
crippled. We can't cut our way

4915
02:44:51,700 --> 02:44:54,211
out if we end up with no

4916
02:44:54,211 --> 02:44:56,147
money. We have to do this.

4917
02:44:56,147 --> 02:44:57,180
It's terrible. It's horrible.

4918
02:44:57,180 --> 02:45:00,780
It's what we're being fed. And

4919
02:45:00,885 --> 02:45:01,519
I don't know. I've talked to

4920
02:45:01,519 --> 02:45:02,920
Republican leaders at the

4921
02:45:02,920 --> 02:45:04,255
state House and they have told

4922
02:45:04,255 --> 02:45:05,790
me this is what this was set

4923
02:45:05,790 --> 02:45:06,424
up for was for you to raise

4924
02:45:06,424 --> 02:45:09,424
taxes. This is what we're

4925
02:45:10,428 --> 02:45:12,697
doing with. It's what we have

4926
02:45:12,697 --> 02:45:14,599
to do. None of us want to do

4927
02:45:14,599 --> 02:45:17,201
this. It's terrible that we

4928
02:45:17,201 --> 02:45:17,902
have to. But if we don't,

4929
02:45:17,902 --> 02:45:19,904
generation going to destroy.

4930
02:45:19,904 --> 02:45:22,304
Indianapolis is roads. Thank

4931
02:45:22,940 --> 02:45:25,276
you. MADAM Chair. CHAIRWOMAN

4932
02:45:25,276 --> 02:45:27,676
Jones. Thank you. MADAM

4933
02:45:29,714 --> 02:45:30,648
PRESIDENT. As the chair of

4934
02:45:30,648 --> 02:45:32,116
Public works, it's no secret

4935
02:45:32,116 --> 02:45:34,986
that I love infrastructure and

4936
02:45:34,986 --> 02:45:36,120
I on infrastructure. So thank

4937
02:45:36,120 --> 02:45:37,555
you for this opportunity.

4938
02:45:37,555 --> 02:45:40,250
Thank you to all my colleagues

4939
02:45:40,250 --> 02:45:42,293
who have worked really, really

4940
02:45:42,293 --> 02:45:43,661
this topic, not just for the

4941
02:45:43,661 --> 02:45:44,229
last few months, but for for

4942
02:45:44,229 --> 02:45:46,629
years before this and

4943
02:45:46,898 --> 02:45:47,565
advocating on this and for our

4944
02:45:47,565 --> 02:45:48,266
residents for coming out to

4945
02:45:48,266 --> 02:45:49,901
the committee meetings and to

4946
02:45:49,901 --> 02:45:52,537
the public meetings for your

4947
02:45:52,537 --> 02:45:53,204
voices to be heard. One point,

4948
02:45:53,204 --> 02:45:56,700
I do want to make that your

4949
02:45:56,700 --> 02:45:59,607
voices were heard and for the

4950
02:46:00,111 --> 02:46:02,380
colleagues that have alleys we

4951
02:46:02,380 --> 02:46:03,548
advocated for Ali funding in

4952
02:46:03,548 --> 02:46:05,516
this proposal because we have

4953
02:46:05,516 --> 02:46:07,916
districts that have alleys

4954
02:46:08,486 --> 02:46:09,287
that do not get funding are

4955
02:46:09,287 --> 02:46:11,756
very much funding. And so that

4956
02:46:11,756 --> 02:46:13,492
was something that we out

4957
02:46:13,492 --> 02:46:16,492
advocated heavily for to a

4958
02:46:16,695 --> 02:46:18,262
tool to have some resources

4959
02:46:18,262 --> 02:46:19,765
put into alleys for those

4960
02:46:19,765 --> 02:46:21,900
districts. So we have listened

4961
02:46:21,900 --> 02:46:24,870
to our residents and as tough

4962
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:28,470
as this is, this is something

4963
02:46:30,142 --> 02:46:32,277
that we must must do. And also

4964
02:46:32,277 --> 02:46:33,245
for our ask me 7.25 workers.

4965
02:46:33,245 --> 02:46:36,245
This is dedicated work. This

4966
02:46:37,783 --> 02:46:39,785
is guaranteed work. This is a

4967
02:46:39,785 --> 02:46:40,853
fiscal injection into our

4968
02:46:40,853 --> 02:46:43,253
residential streets. This will

4969
02:46:44,990 --> 02:46:45,657
guarantee them work as well.

4970
02:46:45,657 --> 02:46:46,425
And one thing that we hear

4971
02:46:46,425 --> 02:46:47,159
about as counselor being

4972
02:46:47,159 --> 02:46:49,928
talked about, he said, I think

4973
02:46:49,928 --> 02:46:52,264
he's a 9% of his constituent

4974
02:46:52,264 --> 02:46:53,999
correspondents is

4975
02:46:53,999 --> 02:46:54,967
infrastructure. So as tough

4976
02:46:54,967 --> 02:46:58,638
this is and like you said, you

4977
02:46:58,638 --> 02:46:59,605
don't want to raise taxes. Our

4978
02:46:59,605 --> 02:47:00,606
residents are depending on us

4979
02:47:00,606 --> 02:47:02,474
to fix the future of the city

4980
02:47:02,474 --> 02:47:03,442
and to fix a future of our

4981
02:47:03,442 --> 02:47:04,760
infrastructure. I'm just at

4982
02:47:04,760 --> 02:47:06,476
thank you. My colleagues

4983
02:47:07,813 --> 02:47:08,514
thanking the constituents,

4984
02:47:08,514 --> 02:47:09,214
whether you agree with us and

4985
02:47:09,214 --> 02:47:12,840
not for writing in for coming

4986
02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:14,860
to this committee meetings

4987
02:47:14,860 --> 02:47:14,753
thinking department public

4988
02:47:14,753 --> 02:47:15,754
works. Workers also for the

4989
02:47:15,754 --> 02:47:16,421
future work that is in your

4990
02:47:16,421 --> 02:47:18,491
future. If we can get this

4991
02:47:18,491 --> 02:47:19,910
across the finish line. And I

4992
02:47:19,910 --> 02:47:19,791
think my colleagues for

4993
02:47:19,791 --> 02:47:20,459
sharing the stories of their

4994
02:47:20,459 --> 02:47:22,859
constituents as well. Thank

4995
02:47:23,929 --> 02:47:25,929
you. Additional comments

4996
02:47:27,650 --> 02:47:29,465
counts talent. Thank you.

4997
02:47:32,539 --> 02:47:34,939
MADAM PRESIDENT. Taking note

4998
02:47:35,800 --> 02:47:36,808
from you, you said you said in

4999
02:47:36,808 --> 02:47:37,977
several of our meetings, you

5000
02:47:37,977 --> 02:47:38,912
say it as elected officials.

5001
02:47:38,912 --> 02:47:43,112
We don't wake up and say that

5002
02:47:43,182 --> 02:47:44,830
we want to raise taxes. That's

5003
02:47:44,830 --> 02:47:45,985
not something that we ought

5004
02:47:45,985 --> 02:47:49,585
Thank you, No sand for all

5005
02:47:49,656 --> 02:47:50,356
your hard work it is because I

5006
02:47:50,356 --> 02:47:53,356
know that this hasn't been

5007
02:47:55,361 --> 02:47:57,163
easy enough saying use it in

5008
02:47:57,163 --> 02:47:57,864
each meeting, a u turn around

5009
02:47:57,864 --> 02:48:00,864
each gust to 20, hear exactly

5010
02:48:00,967 --> 02:48:02,702
what they had to say. You

5011
02:48:02,702 --> 02:48:04,470
state after each meeting to

5012
02:48:04,470 --> 02:48:06,439
make sure that you answered

5013
02:48:06,439 --> 02:48:08,839
every question that every

5014
02:48:09,309 --> 02:48:10,243
constituent showed up to every

5015
02:48:10,243 --> 02:48:13,546
meeting. So I commend you for

5016
02:48:13,546 --> 02:48:14,748
all the work that you put into

5017
02:48:14,748 --> 02:48:17,748
this. Also with that being

5018
02:48:18,284 --> 02:48:19,786
said, also, MADAM PRESIDENT.

5019
02:48:19,786 --> 02:48:23,386
As you said in each meeting,

5020
02:48:23,523 --> 02:48:24,724
we haven't got another plane.

5021
02:48:24,724 --> 02:48:26,427
And this is the only plan that

5022
02:48:26,427 --> 02:48:27,727
has been presented to the

5023
02:48:27,727 --> 02:48:30,127
council and in leadership,

5024
02:48:32,131 --> 02:48:32,832
leadership is hard and

5025
02:48:32,832 --> 02:48:33,500
councilor robbers. I have to

5026
02:48:33,500 --> 02:48:36,603
say this is probably one of

5027
02:48:36,603 --> 02:48:37,637
the hardest decisions since

5028
02:48:37,637 --> 02:48:40,273
week can't became account so

5029
02:48:40,273 --> 02:48:44,178
that I have had because I too

5030
02:48:44,178 --> 02:48:46,120
have a mom. That is a senior

5031
02:48:46,120 --> 02:48:47,281
citizen. Am I gonna have to

5032
02:48:47,281 --> 02:48:47,948
help her probably pay for her

5033
02:48:47,948 --> 02:48:49,949
registration for a license

5034
02:48:49,949 --> 02:48:52,786
plate. Yes, I am. But at the

5035
02:48:52,786 --> 02:48:55,786
same time I receive those

5036
02:48:57,958 --> 02:48:58,993
emails even just last week I

5037
02:48:58,993 --> 02:49:01,561
did a press release point

5038
02:49:01,561 --> 02:49:02,296
Greenway Trail, which I was

5039
02:49:02,296 --> 02:49:04,864
gonna be good for the Far East

5040
02:49:04,864 --> 02:49:05,599
Side because oftentimes people

5041
02:49:05,599 --> 02:49:09,799
think I have felt that the far

5042
02:49:10,700 --> 02:49:11,872
East side of that said has got

5043
02:49:11,872 --> 02:49:13,400
left out and we're doing

5044
02:49:13,400 --> 02:49:15,400
having economic development

5045
02:49:16,510 --> 02:49:19,213
happen on the But when posted

5046
02:49:19,213 --> 02:49:21,949
about the Greenway Trail. I

5047
02:49:21,949 --> 02:49:23,117
get negative feedback and said

5048
02:49:23,117 --> 02:49:26,787
it. This is what choose to do

5049
02:49:26,787 --> 02:49:27,621
with that money. We need pa,

5050
02:49:27,621 --> 02:49:31,221
we need our potholes. We MAY

5051
02:49:31,225 --> 02:49:33,594
stir up. We need strip patchy.

5052
02:49:33,594 --> 02:49:35,563
Also another subdivision in my

5053
02:49:35,563 --> 02:49:37,963
history. They've been waiting

5054
02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:42,370
for years to and new strip

5055
02:49:42,370 --> 02:49:44,770
patching and there's history

5056
02:49:45,573 --> 02:49:48,375
took and put that as apply or

5057
02:49:48,375 --> 02:49:49,743
and to get that phone call,

5058
02:49:49,743 --> 02:49:50,644
nothing against dpw. But to

5059
02:49:50,644 --> 02:49:52,980
get that phone call from our

5060
02:49:52,980 --> 02:49:55,380
council say Councilor Allen,

5061
02:49:57,384 --> 02:49:58,319
we cannot. Thanks. The street

5062
02:49:58,319 --> 02:50:00,654
is going to take more money is

5063
02:50:00,654 --> 02:50:01,723
going to take more work. And

5064
02:50:01,723 --> 02:50:02,556
I'm like want to tell my kids

5065
02:50:02,556 --> 02:50:05,393
to join the property manager,

5066
02:50:05,393 --> 02:50:06,327
the PRESIDENT Of this H.O.A.

5067
02:50:06,327 --> 02:50:09,196
Only thing you can do is be

5068
02:50:09,196 --> 02:50:11,166
honest. And I responded pet in

5069
02:50:11,166 --> 02:50:14,135
a response until 2 weeks ago

5070
02:50:14,135 --> 02:50:15,300
when they had another

5071
02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:18,706
complaint. So I say I live at

5072
02:50:18,706 --> 02:50:21,542
to say our stories. I'm very

5073
02:50:21,542 --> 02:50:22,477
important and were put in our

5074
02:50:22,477 --> 02:50:23,512
constituents spending more

5075
02:50:23,512 --> 02:50:25,547
money when they have to get

5076
02:50:25,547 --> 02:50:27,916
their tires fakes. And not

5077
02:50:27,916 --> 02:50:29,718
only that is taking out time

5078
02:50:29,718 --> 02:50:30,685
in a still taken out. Is

5079
02:50:30,685 --> 02:50:32,454
taking money from the table

5080
02:50:32,454 --> 02:50:36,240
also. So either way it goes

5081
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:36,825
where between Ahart's bought,

5082
02:50:36,825 --> 02:50:37,559
you know, is is this is not

5083
02:50:37,559 --> 02:50:40,559
difficult. So I encourage each

5084
02:50:41,163 --> 02:50:42,931
one of my. Colleagues to

5085
02:50:42,931 --> 02:50:44,399
support this. Is this a great

5086
02:50:44,399 --> 02:50:45,500
decision? No, but is it hard?

5087
02:50:45,500 --> 02:50:49,700
Yes, but we have to take this

5088
02:50:50,839 --> 02:50:53,239
to do something. Additional

5089
02:50:56,678 --> 02:50:59,678
comments. Will now proceed to

5090
02:51:07,155 --> 02:51:10,755
the board for a vote. The

5091
02:51:14,963 --> 02:51:15,664
proposal carries 14, 2.10 now

5092
02:51:15,664 --> 02:51:16,364
proceed is special service

5093
02:51:16,364 --> 02:51:18,764
District Council. There's no

5094
02:51:19,501 --> 02:51:21,501
business there. Excitement

5095
02:51:23,605 --> 02:51:25,674
agenda is business. Senator

5096
02:51:25,674 --> 02:51:27,509
Frist, a 2 announcements in

5097
02:51:27,509 --> 02:51:28,710
adjournment agenda for this

5098
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:29,412
meeting of the council having

5099
02:51:29,412 --> 02:51:29,978
been completed chair will not

5100
02:51:29,978 --> 02:51:31,978
entertain motion for

5101
02:51:32,248 --> 02:51:32,915
adjournment. MADAM PRESIDENT,

5102
02:51:32,915 --> 02:51:35,315
the chair recognizes later

5103
02:51:36,585 --> 02:51:37,186
marry. MADAM PRESIDENT. I

5104
02:51:37,186 --> 02:51:39,487
haven't asked offer the

5105
02:51:39,487 --> 02:51:40,356
following motion for a term.

5106
02:51:40,356 --> 02:51:43,356
It but Councilor j Brown

5107
02:51:44,360 --> 02:51:46,194
memory of from. A counselor, a

5108
02:51:46,194 --> 02:51:48,630
brown memory of Kevin Bennett

5109
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:49,298
by counselors, Robert

5110
02:51:49,298 --> 02:51:50,867
Counselors, Robertson, memory

5111
02:51:50,867 --> 02:51:52,735
of Ridge. And Sean, to shot

5112
02:51:52,735 --> 02:51:55,735
today, sot hat on innings.

5113
02:51:56,873 --> 02:51:58,841
Apologies for that. But

5114
02:51:58,841 --> 02:51:59,575
councilors Lewis in memory of

5115
02:51:59,575 --> 02:52:02,575
Harold Coleman junior, Laura j

5116
02:52:05,470 --> 02:52:07,116
Van Ph d. Michael t Crawford,

5117
02:52:07,116 --> 02:52:09,352
Don, are doing and Tracy, why

5118
02:52:09,352 --> 02:52:10,520
Washington by counselors,

5119
02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:13,520
Lewis and Knowsley in memory

5120
02:52:14,324 --> 02:52:16,225
of Virgil are mad like al Ser

5121
02:52:16,225 --> 02:52:16,894
Nielsen memory of William

5122
02:52:16,894 --> 02:52:19,294
Ferdinand. When, you know,

5123
02:52:19,395 --> 02:52:20,620
junior and Rita Walsh by

5124
02:52:20,620 --> 02:52:21,564
counselors, Lewis and Neil

5125
02:52:21,564 --> 02:52:23,499
said in memory of and Murray

5126
02:52:23,499 --> 02:52:25,899
Sutton. Councilors Lewis give

5127
02:52:28,237 --> 02:52:29,438
scenery of Mark Russell. By

5128
02:52:29,438 --> 02:52:32,375
counselors, robbers Louis in a

5129
02:52:32,375 --> 02:52:34,477
vain Cahill deal heart our

5130
02:52:34,477 --> 02:52:36,612
memory of Betty modeling

5131
02:52:36,612 --> 02:52:37,713
McQuillan but Councilor

5132
02:52:37,713 --> 02:52:38,614
Barthen memory Mary Jo

5133
02:52:38,614 --> 02:52:42,214
Campbell by Slee in memory of

5134
02:52:43,619 --> 02:52:46,190
Francis. Evan Evans. Fred

5135
02:52:48,758 --> 02:52:49,359
Slack. Samuel Leasing. Aubrey

5136
02:52:49,359 --> 02:52:51,359
Summers, Scott Anthony

5137
02:52:51,829 --> 02:52:53,620
Ferguson and Virginia Hawkins.

5138
02:52:53,620 --> 02:52:53,729
MADAM PRESIDENT, I would like

5139
02:52:53,729 --> 02:52:56,265
to move the German of this

5140
02:52:56,265 --> 02:52:57,534
meeting of Indianapolis City

5141
02:52:57,534 --> 02:52:58,868
County Council in recognition

5142
02:52:58,868 --> 02:52:59,503
and of and respect for the

5143
02:52:59,503 --> 02:53:01,804
life and contributions of

5144
02:53:01,804 --> 02:53:04,804
those persons I have here

5145
02:53:04,874 --> 02:53:05,809
specifically name. I put I

5146
02:53:05,809 --> 02:53:06,510
respectfully requests. For

5147
02:53:06,510 --> 02:53:08,110
fellow councilors are further

5148
02:53:08,110 --> 02:53:08,678
requests that the a part of

5149
02:53:08,678 --> 02:53:09,279
the permit records of this

5150
02:53:09,279 --> 02:53:10,130
body. And then a letter

5151
02:53:10,130 --> 02:53:11,615
bearing the council see on the

5152
02:53:11,615 --> 02:53:12,282
stage for the PRESIDENT. He

5153
02:53:12,282 --> 02:53:12,883
said to the family of each

5154
02:53:12,883 --> 02:53:15,283
person advising of this

5155
02:53:17,154 --> 02:53:17,821
action. Thank you, Leader

5156
02:53:17,821 --> 02:53:19,556
Mary. You're no objections.

5157
02:53:19,556 --> 02:53:20,224
The motion is receiving

5158
02:53:20,224 --> 02:53:20,924
requests are so order. Your

5159
02:53:20,924 --> 02:53:23,000
know for the motions. We are