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Good afternoon.

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The meeting of the mdc hearing

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examiner for AUGUST 27th 2026

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will now come to order. Couple

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of announcements reminders

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before I read the rules of

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procedure. If you have

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electronic devices, make sure

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they earn silent. And if you

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do have to have conversation,

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please go out in the hall to

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do that. The indices rules of

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procedure provide that the

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administrator MAY limit the

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number of new petitions

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docketed for the hearing

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examiner. The current planning

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staff is currently limited.

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Shunning limiting the number

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of new petitions to 10. This

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will be in effect for an

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indefinite period. The public

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hearing today will be

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conducted in accordance with

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the rules of procedure of the

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Metropolitan Development

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Commission. The petitioner and

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the rim on traders will each

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have a total period of 15

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minutes for their sworn

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testimony. We will hear the

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staff recommendation and then

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the petitioner and reminds

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traders will each have a total

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period of 5 minutes for a

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rebound. Reasonable,

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additional time will also be

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allowed for any member of the

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City County Council to provide

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testimony regarding a

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petition. Any party who has

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just spent satisfied with any

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recommendation or decision

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made today has an automatic

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right to an appeal. The

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dissatisfied party must file

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the appeal with the Department

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of Metropolitan Development

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within 5 business days after

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today. Additional notice of

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the appeal is required to be

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made to the individuals who

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are required to be notified

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under the mdc rules of

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procedure. Please contact

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staff within one to 2 days

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after today's hearing to

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discuss giving timely notice

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using the designated appeal

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also approval and modification

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petitions for which I make a

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recommendation to the

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Metropolitan Development

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Commission for approval or

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denial will be placed on the

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mdc agenda for Wednesday,

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SEPTEMBER. 16th 2026. Any

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commitments agreed to for such

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put it for such petitions must

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be submitted to step before

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the designated in dc meeting

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date and no later than

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SEPTEMBER 9th. 2026. Please

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note that any variance plat

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and vacation petition for

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which I approve or deny today

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will not be scheduled for

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further hearing. And the

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decision will be final unless

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an appeal is filed in

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accordance with the rules of

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procedure. We'll now begin

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with special requests,

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including withdraws in

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continuances. I'm first going

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to ask Nancy to read into the

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record all of the special

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request of which she is aware

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then will take special request

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from the audience. And finally

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special requests from staff.

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Thank you, Man. Im hearing

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examiner. Chris, we have 2026

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0, 0, 7, 2, 76. 44 Big Ben

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Boulevard Center Township

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Council District 19 and on a

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medic continues to SEPTEMBER

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24th 2026. Has been filed by

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Register neighborhood

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organization. Is there anyone

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here today on 2026 e u n 0, 7,

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2 at 76. 44 Big Ben Boulevard.

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Again, that is an automatic

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continuance. Michael, any

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comments from staff? Thank

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you, MADAM Hearing examiner,

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no additional comments. Am

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going to acknowledge the

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automatic continuance of 2026,

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0, 1, 0, 7, 2, to the

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SEPTEMBER 24th hearing. Thank

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you, 2026. Easy. 8, 3, 6 2026.

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Cbre 3, 6, at 23. 26 East 44th

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Street where she Township

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Council district 8. We have a

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staff requests for continues

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for Costa SEPTEMBER 24th 2026.

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And is there anyone here today

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on companion petitions 2026

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easy cv or 8.36, the 23. 26

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East 41st Street risking it.

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Good afternoon. MADAM Hearing

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Examiner Justin King addresses

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Indianapolis, Indiana, 4, 6,

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2, or We're green mint and

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supportive of staff's request

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to the SEPTEMBER 24th docket.

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without additional notice. I

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might also add that we are

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seeking a four-day waiver of

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the mailing requirements.

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Okay. Happy to answer any

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questions you might have.

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Okay. So lets to the waiver

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request first again, is there

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anyone else here on 2026, tz

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it and cvr 8.36 Kathleen

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staff's No way thank you,

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Judy, of this waiver is

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required due to Some delay on

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our part. What's the staff

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would have no objection to the

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four-day waiver. And then

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again, the continuance is to

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request some additional time

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to work with the committee of

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the Petitioner on this one.

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Okay. In that is the way just

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for written are also for

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posted. Notice. I believe we

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got the signs up 2 days after

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the deadline. They were up

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before the notice went out. So

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today's after the deadline.

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Correct? Okay. Today we on the

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signs for day on the legal

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case. All right. I going to

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grant the today waiver of the

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posted notice in 40 waiver of

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the written notice for

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companion petitions 2026 easy

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cvr 8.36 And then I am going

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to continue those petitions to

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the SEPTEMBER 24th hearing. Is

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that without notice? Cut And

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that would be without

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additional notice. All right.

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Thank you. Like you're up

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next. And it said the

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petitions are 2026. Easy. And

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8, 3, aged 2026. Cbre 3, 8,

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That's 69, 15 east. Washington

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Street. One Township Council

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district 20. Staff is

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requesting that continues for

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cars to OCTOBER. 29 2026. In

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his anyone else here today on

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companion petitions 2026 see

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cnn Cbr 8.38 At 69 15 east

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Washington street. Kate is

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ticking once again. Justin

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King in at just 27. 22 maker

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Street Indianapolis, Indiana,

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for 6, 2 or 3. Again, we're

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supportive of the request made

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by staff to continue this case

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to the OCTOBER 29th hearing

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dates. We anticipate that

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legal notice might or the

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request MAY change and

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therefore legal notice would

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be need to be. Modified. And

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recent we're not to that point

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change. So will could have to

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deal with that as

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conversations take place with

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staff. This one would also

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require us to request a

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one-day waiver of both the

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legal notices and the sign

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regulation. Okay. Again, you

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and anyone else here on the

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petitions at 69 15 east,

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Washington street. Kathleen

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comments on the Thank you

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staff would have no objection

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to the one-day waiver of the

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notice and posting the sign.

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And again, this would be with

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additional notice if required

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to the OCTOBER 29th hearing.

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So am going to grant a windy

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waiver of the written and

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posted notice for 2026. See

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cnn cvr 8.38 And continue

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those petitions to the OCTOBER

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29th hearing with notice if

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necessary. Next is 2026. Easy

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and 8.44 In 2026, ebr 8. 44 66

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20 north Human Way Xi Jin

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the night and then it

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continues to 9/24/2026. Been

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Councilor. There anyone else

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petitions 2026? Easy cvr 8.44

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at 66 20 north few way. Good

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afternoon, MISS Sports Hall

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Joe Calder and 11 South

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Meridian, Indianapolis

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representing the petitioner in

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this matter. We are in contact

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with counselor boots and the

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other umbrella. Neighborhood

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organizations were holding a

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committee community meeting

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next Tuesday. So we anticipate

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being in good shape. By the

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time we return next month. And

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Kathleen, any additional

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comments from Thank you, This

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would require is your meant?

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Can going to acknowledge the

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automatic continuance of

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companion petitions 2026? Easy

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cvr 8.44, thank you. Are there

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special request from the

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audience for continuing won't

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withdraw. All expediting. Good

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afternoon. Good afternoon,

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office at 16. 38 Shelby Street

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Suite. One, Indianapolis,

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Indiana, on behalf of Punjab

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property for petition 2026.

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And Modi. 0, 0, 3, With

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regards to property. 8600

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comes road. And we are

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requesting a continuance and

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unfortunately based on some of

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the people in attendance, I

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believe there was a MISS

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Communication on that part of

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it. But staff informed us a

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few days ago that dpw is

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requesting a traffic impact.

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Study. And and that will take

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some time for the petitioner

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to complete. And and there's

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also been. Wetland delineation

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report that some of the

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neighborhood committee. And

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has, but it has been unable to

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provide a copy of staff. Does

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not have a copy of. And so we

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would like to see that as well

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since our engine. The

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petitioners engineer and

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that's not have any of the

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property designated as

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wetlands in there report. So

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request? 2 OCTOBER 29th? Okay.

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I actually saw the email

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exchange and I know that that

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was requested a couple weeks

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ago. I was there such a delay

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in getting that under way.

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That was a couple weeks ago,

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but it would typically they

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take 30 to 60 days, too. Yeah,

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but you said the staff you

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just found out a couple days

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ago. Oh, no. Sorry, okay. Into

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debt. You tried to make the

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rim on traders aware the

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continuances of 2 said he is.

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think there was MISS

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Communication. I told them

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about the request for the and

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traffic impact. Study. Okay.

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Is there anyone but here that

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wants to speak on the

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continuance request for 2026.

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Him. Od. 0, 0, 3. 8600 Combs

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Road. And again, the content.

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The request is to continue to

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OCTOBER. 29th from today's

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hearing. Is there anyone here

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on those petitions? Yes,

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ma'am. If you would, please

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state your name and address.

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Robin Heldman. 88 24 Combs

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Road Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Today is the first day that I

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heard that he was asking for a

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continuance. We have

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communicated via e-mail. He

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did discuss that they had a

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traffic study which I was

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aware that was a couple of

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weeks ago, but communication

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there was no further

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communication. We do have

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several people here that we're

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ready to testify in opposition

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I'm just curious what if it is

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continued? What does this

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whole process just start

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again, where we come here

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before you and then it

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proceeds. But if if say we

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don't want it to be continued

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and move for what? What

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happens? That's good question.

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I show of hands. Can I see who

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else is here today on this

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petition on Combs wrote, ok,

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so dozen people or so? Yeah,

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and I understand it. It's very

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much an inconvenience with

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driving here and paying for

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parking and all that I would

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say that. First of all, I'm

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I'm disappointed that it was

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not communicated to you that

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that this. In my opinion, this

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is not something that I can

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here today because there is a

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vital piece of information

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that that is not going to be

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ready for a couple months so I

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don't think it would be best

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served to hear the petition

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today. Another option that I

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have, which is still going to

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involve everybody coming back.

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Is to send the petition

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directly to the Metropolitan

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Development Commission for an

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initial hearing. But if I do

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that, it has to be their

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SEPTEMBER 16th date because

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that that. As I announced to

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my rules, anything heard today

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goes to SEPTEMBER 16th and out

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Lee. It's gonna have to be

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continued from them because

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studies can be done yet. So my

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preference would be go ahead,

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continue it out. And let's

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make sure that OCTOBER 29th

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is. Far enough out because

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after that date, I wouldn't be

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likely to grant any more

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continuances on behalf of the

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petitioner. So again, I know

381
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it's an inconvenience. I

382
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apologize for that. Do you

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feel like that's something you

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and your group could work west

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on that OCTOBER 29th date.

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Yes. So we have your the

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SEPTEMBER 16th. They would be

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a problem for okay. So get

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that my only other question or

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request is that we have

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communicated with the

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petitioners rep attorney and

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there were supposed to be

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revised site plans time and

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that was back in JUNE, I think

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is when they initially said

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they were going to have those.

398
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He still has not submitted

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those. I don't believe to

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staff and he is not. And so we

401
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have not seen those. I've

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invited him to the Franklin

403
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Township Land Use Committee

404
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meeting and he hasn't come

405
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because he doesn't have those

406
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revised plans. But he didn't

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mention that here. So I'm just

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questioning. When will those

409
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be submitted as well the track

410
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study? Okay. All right. Thank

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you. Thank you. Does anyone e

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else want to speak to this

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continuance request? She could

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state your name and address

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right City County Council for

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District. 25. I would also

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like let me know that I am

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here in opposition of this

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proposal. So I think we've had

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it I'm going to budget season

421
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right now the city. So forgive

422
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me for I know how has been

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continued so far. However, I

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think it's time we start to

425
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move forward with hit traffic

426
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study is going to show us that

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this is going to be a feasible

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use of the land given the

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restrictions of the plane of

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of. County line and that

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turning point right there is

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simply just too tight for

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something like this co into a

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semis. So well, it MAY or MAY

435
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not be able to make this

436
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actually goes forward before

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you like it be noted, along

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with the letter of submitted

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in your packet that I am in

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saying opposition of this, ok,

441
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thank you. And I appreciate

442
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coming today. Anybody else

443
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want to speak to the

444
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continuous request of this

445
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petition? Okay. And Kathleen

446
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comments from staff. Thank

447
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you, Judy. I just want to

448
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clarify that what is being

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requested by dpw is a traffic

450
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which is a traffic operation

451
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analysis and not a full-blown

452
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traffic impact. Study. They

453
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hit as specifically to look at

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the intersections of stop 11

455
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and Combs Road and county and

456
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Combs wrote. So I just wanted

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to get that clarified. As you

458
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know, this has been continued.

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This is initially set for

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hearing in APRIL. And this has

461
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been continued throughout the

462
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summer, Steph. We'll support a

463
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continuance to the OCTOBER

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29th but will not support any

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more continuances if they are

466
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not ready to go forward and

467
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they either need to withdraw

468
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or this needs to be dismissed.

469
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Okay. Do you think that this

470
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should be with notice since

471
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there's been? I think that

472
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would be appropriate given

473
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fact that it has on for so

474
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long in Chile. Assume you you

475
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don't have that revised site

476
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plan. No, okay. Nothing new

477
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has been submitted to the

478
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okay. The the petitioner to

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the file since was initially

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filed folk and I know that MR.

481
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Rooney indicated the e.

482
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Wetlands so many Asian it

483
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would be appropriate for him

484
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to forward that. So it can be

485
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filed. Okay. All right, MR.

486
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Rooney, clarify, we don't have

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the wetland delineation. We we

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are told by the neighborhood

489
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that they have the wetland

490
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delineation designating the

491
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property as wetlands, but

492
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they've been unable to provide

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a cop because they only have

494
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one hard copy and they thought

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staff might have it. Staff

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says they do not. Noticed

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staff does not have a copy of

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that. That is one of the

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commitments Seth is going has

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requested as part this

501
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petition. So, yes, hasn't been

502
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conducted then. I mean, it's

503
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be required me. So that sounds

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like titian or yesterday that,

505
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yes, it would be up to the

506
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petitioner. He is just

507
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clarifying the neighborhood

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stated they had a previous

509
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report stating that it was

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wetlands in our engineer. It

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saying it is not. Would appear

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that engineer needs to submit

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documentation that it is not a

514
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wet one. Because if you look

515
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at the site is clear that

516
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there is a wetland that

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occupies most of this site.

518
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That, fact, extends to the

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parcel south of. This site. So

520
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it sounds like in the next 2

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months. You and your client

522
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have to. Verify. Where the

523
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wetland delineation is or if

524
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again, they're saying there

525
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isn't one they need to provide

526
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documentation of that. You

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have to prove here that do.

528
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You think that OCTOBER 29th is

529
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enough time? Because as you

530
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have heard, others say a we're

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not going to grant any more

532
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continuances on behalf the

533
00:19:51,325 --> 00:19:54,261
petitioner. So do you think

534
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that OCTOBER 29th is a

535
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reasonable date? If you are

536
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willing to continue no further

537
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to be safe, we would. But if

538
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you're not, we would. Would

539
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try to make sure we have

540
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everything by OCTOBER 29th.

541
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So. Again, do you think

542
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OCTOBER 29th is a reasonable

543
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date? Or should we? Think we

544
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will. We can make the OCTOBER

545
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29th state work. Okay. And I

546
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do feel like that should be

547
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with notice. But in addition

548
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to notice, if you can also

549
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keep the counselor and

550
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Franklin Township Civic League

551
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in, you know, any interested

552
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neighbors informed. I think

553
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that would be very helpful. So

554
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I am going to continue 2026.

555
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And Modi, 0, 0, 3, 2, the

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OCTOBER. 29 tearing and that

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is with notice. Thank you.

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Thank you. Any other special

559
00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:06,935
request from the audience?

560
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Good afternoon. Again we're

561
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told Joe Calder and 11 South

562
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Meridian, Indianapolis

563
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representing Health and

564
00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:15,908
Hospitals Corporation. Agenda

565
00:21:19,581 --> 00:21:21,382
item 12. That's 2026 easy and

566
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cbre. 42 various addresses on

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world. Temple Meadows Drive

568
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and 30 a street. We are

569
00:21:28,223 --> 00:21:29,230
requesting a two-day waiver of

570
00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:32,230
both written notice and the

571
00:21:33,828 --> 00:21:36,698
posted sign. Is there anyone

572
00:21:36,698 --> 00:21:39,980
here today on companion

573
00:21:41,336 --> 00:21:43,471
petitions, 2026 e cnn cvr 8.42

574
00:21:43,471 --> 00:21:46,341
And various addresses on rural

575
00:21:46,341 --> 00:21:47,542
Temple Meadows Drive and East

576
00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:48,811
38th Street. And again, the

577
00:21:48,811 --> 00:21:51,811
request is for a two-day

578
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:54,516
waiver of the written notice

579
00:21:54,516 --> 00:21:55,216
for those petition and the

580
00:21:55,216 --> 00:21:58,816
sign in the sand with written

581
00:22:00,121 --> 00:22:01,689
and posted. Yes. And Kathleen

582
00:22:01,689 --> 00:22:02,290
comments from thank you. To

583
00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:04,392
the staff would have no

584
00:22:04,392 --> 00:22:05,930
objection to a two-day waiver

585
00:22:05,930 --> 00:22:08,693
of the written notice and the

586
00:22:10,565 --> 00:22:11,399
posting of the sign. Okay. So

587
00:22:11,399 --> 00:22:14,669
I am going to uproot it. Prove

588
00:22:14,669 --> 00:22:15,371
a two-day waiver of the

589
00:22:15,371 --> 00:22:18,720
written and posted notice for

590
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,720
companion petitions 2026 see

591
00:22:23,845 --> 00:22:26,245
cnn cvr. 42. Other special

592
00:22:28,584 --> 00:22:29,285
request from the audience. Do

593
00:22:29,285 --> 00:22:32,285
we have any special requests

594
00:22:39,495 --> 00:22:40,162
from the staff? Yes, thank

595
00:22:40,162 --> 00:22:40,996
you. Staff would draw your

596
00:22:40,996 --> 00:22:43,996
attention to item number 15 on

597
00:22:44,934 --> 00:22:47,334
your agenda. Haven't discussed

598
00:22:48,337 --> 00:22:49,380
this with both the petitioner

599
00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:51,380
and community organizations.

600
00:22:52,274 --> 00:22:52,975
They have decided to continue

601
00:22:52,975 --> 00:22:56,478
this for one months. And that

602
00:22:56,478 --> 00:22:57,913
would be, too. I believe the

603
00:22:57,913 --> 00:23:00,913
24th of SEPTEMBER. And Steph

604
00:23:01,317 --> 00:23:02,886
has no objection to that.

605
00:23:02,886 --> 00:23:03,919
Okay. And is that without

606
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:06,355
notice? Yes, at this time

607
00:23:06,355 --> 00:23:08,625
there would be without notice.

608
00:23:08,625 --> 00:23:11,625
Okay. Is there anyone else

609
00:23:11,994 --> 00:23:13,994
here today on 2026, 0, 0, 6, 5

610
00:23:15,331 --> 00:23:17,320
at to Madison Avenue. And

611
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,935
again, that request is for a

612
00:23:19,935 --> 00:23:20,536
30 day. Continuance. Okay in

613
00:23:20,536 --> 00:23:22,536
petitioners. Not here.

614
00:23:27,977 --> 00:23:28,677
Correct. I am going to

615
00:23:28,677 --> 00:23:30,677
continue 2026 year when 0, 6,

616
00:23:32,781 --> 00:23:35,181
5, To the SEPTEMBER 20 force

617
00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:39,180
hearing. And that is without

618
00:23:42,258 --> 00:23:42,925
additional notice. Any other

619
00:23:42,925 --> 00:23:45,325
special requests from staff

620
00:23:55,872 --> 00:23:56,839
today? We will now consider

621
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,543
the petitions on the expedited

622
00:23:59,543 --> 00:24:00,810
portion of the dock. It these

623
00:24:00,810 --> 00:24:02,278
are petitions were staff has

624
00:24:02,278 --> 00:24:04,140
recommended approval of the

625
00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:04,848
request and staff has not been

626
00:24:04,848 --> 00:24:07,848
made aware of any opposition

627
00:24:08,752 --> 00:24:10,687
to the petitions. If there are

628
00:24:10,687 --> 00:24:11,655
reminds traitors present for a

629
00:24:11,655 --> 00:24:12,721
particular petition are

630
00:24:12,721 --> 00:24:14,240
members of the public who

631
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,891
object to a petition being

632
00:24:15,891 --> 00:24:16,860
recommended for approval are

633
00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:19,860
being approved. We will hear

634
00:24:19,863 --> 00:24:21,132
testimony before a decision is

635
00:24:21,132 --> 00:24:23,200
made. Ines need to to read

636
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,201
into the record all of the

637
00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:26,601
petitions on the expedited

638
00:24:26,938 --> 00:24:29,500
portion of the docket. She

639
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:29,773
will then ask for you all to

640
00:24:29,773 --> 00:24:33,577
stand up and be sworn in. And

641
00:24:33,577 --> 00:24:34,644
then I'm call those up in

642
00:24:34,644 --> 00:24:35,612
chronological order and ask

643
00:24:35,612 --> 00:24:38,582
you to just give very brief

644
00:24:38,582 --> 00:24:39,583
comments on each one of those.

645
00:24:39,583 --> 00:24:42,583
Thank you. MADAM Union Salmon

646
00:24:44,254 --> 00:24:47,254
are The petitions to be

647
00:24:47,824 --> 00:24:50,224
extradited are just 1, in

648
00:24:52,929 --> 00:24:53,730
2026. App's 0, 1, 5, At 18, 0,

649
00:24:53,730 --> 00:24:55,730
7 Central Avenue Center

650
00:24:59,636 --> 00:25:00,303
Township Council District 13.

651
00:25:00,303 --> 00:25:02,303
2026, 0 5, one. 41 50 North

652
00:25:02,907 --> 00:25:05,907
High School Road Pike Township

653
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,480
Council District 5. 2026, 0,

654
00:25:12,849 --> 00:25:13,517
0, 5, 5 it 16. 24 East 46th

655
00:25:13,517 --> 00:25:15,517
Street Washington Township

656
00:25:19,956 --> 00:25:21,956
Council District 7. 2026, 0,

657
00:25:21,958 --> 00:25:22,893
0, 5, 9, 3, 3, 7, east, more

658
00:25:22,893 --> 00:25:24,893
history. Senator Township

659
00:25:26,797 --> 00:25:28,797
Council District 18. 2026, 0,

660
00:25:34,538 --> 00:25:35,740
0, 6, 9, 11,001 50 is 1, 1, 1,

661
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:36,439
5, 0, Southeastern Avenue.

662
00:25:36,439 --> 00:25:38,439
Franklin Township Council

663
00:25:45,550 --> 00:25:46,951
district. 25. 2026 0 in 0, 7,

664
00:25:46,951 --> 00:25:48,951
3, 8, 23. 55 North College

665
00:25:49,653 --> 00:25:50,621
Avenue and 7, 1, 7 East 24th

666
00:25:50,621 --> 00:25:52,621
Street Senator Township

667
00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:58,460
Council district 8. 2026, easy

668
00:25:59,429 --> 00:26:02,429
and 8 to 7 with 2026. Epl 8 to

669
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,468
7, the 2050 Wagner Lane. And

670
00:26:06,571 --> 00:26:07,205
36, 69 Van Buren Street

671
00:26:07,205 --> 00:26:09,205
Senator Township Council

672
00:26:13,744 --> 00:26:15,744
District 19. 2026, easy and 8

673
00:26:17,281 --> 00:26:19,281
for 2 2026. Cvr 8, 4, 2, at

674
00:26:21,353 --> 00:26:22,954
38. 39 through street. 38

675
00:26:22,954 --> 00:26:25,354
zeros. One North Temple

676
00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:29,458
Avenue. And 38 30 medals drive

677
00:26:29,627 --> 00:26:31,280
and 28, 0, 6 28, 40 East 38th

678
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280
Street, Washington Township

679
00:26:35,666 --> 00:26:36,634
Council district 8. Well, all

680
00:26:36,634 --> 00:26:38,836
those continued to testify on

681
00:26:38,836 --> 00:26:39,770
these petitions this

682
00:26:39,770 --> 00:26:40,471
afternoon. Please stand now to

683
00:26:40,471 --> 00:26:41,873
be identified. Who's going to

684
00:26:41,873 --> 00:26:44,873
speak for these? Please raise

685
00:26:46,644 --> 00:26:48,446
your right hands. Do you swear

686
00:26:48,446 --> 00:26:49,313
or affirm of the pill? Use a

687
00:26:49,313 --> 00:26:50,381
pretty to tell the truth and

688
00:26:50,381 --> 00:26:53,317
nothing but the to say I do.

689
00:26:53,317 --> 00:26:55,317
Thank you.

690
00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:04,580
If the petitioner for 2026, a

691
00:27:04,862 --> 00:27:06,531
p p 0, 1, 5, at 18, 0, 7

692
00:27:06,531 --> 00:27:08,267
Central Avenue could come

693
00:27:08,267 --> 00:27:08,967
forward. Please. And just to

694
00:27:08,967 --> 00:27:11,370
make sure there's no one else

695
00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:14,637
here on that petition today at

696
00:27:15,806 --> 00:27:17,806
18. 0, 7 Central Avenue. Okay.

697
00:27:18,442 --> 00:27:20,312
Yes, use like 23. 0, one

698
00:27:20,312 --> 00:27:21,679
Central Avenue, Indianapolis,

699
00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:24,790
Indiana. We are seeking

700
00:27:26,685 --> 00:27:27,352
approval for. A new

701
00:27:27,352 --> 00:27:28,190
construction, single-family

702
00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:29,922
home and carriage house of

703
00:27:29,922 --> 00:27:32,322
which plans already been

704
00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:34,725
submitted for. It is pk to

705
00:27:34,725 --> 00:27:37,863
zoning. So we required to get

706
00:27:37,863 --> 00:27:39,650
the additional approval here

707
00:27:39,650 --> 00:27:40,980
And it looks like staff's

708
00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:42,980
recommending approval subject

709
00:27:42,734 --> 00:27:43,435
to substantial compliance with

710
00:27:43,435 --> 00:27:44,169
the site plan and elevations

711
00:27:44,169 --> 00:27:45,938
folded to JULY 2nd. Are you in

712
00:27:45,938 --> 00:27:48,938
agreement with that? I agree,

713
00:27:48,941 --> 00:27:50,409
ok? Thank you, Robert.

714
00:27:50,409 --> 00:27:51,760
Additional comments from

715
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,676
staff. Thank you to staff a

716
00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:57,780
stuff the additional. All

717
00:27:59,685 --> 00:28:00,352
right. So subject to.

718
00:28:00,352 --> 00:28:01,620
Substantial compliance with

719
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:04,456
the site plan and elevations

720
00:28:04,456 --> 00:28:05,724
filed dated JULY second 2026.

721
00:28:05,724 --> 00:28:08,527
I am going to recommend

722
00:28:08,527 --> 00:28:10,527
approval of 2026. App's 0, 1,

723
00:28:10,596 --> 00:28:12,464
5, that will be placed on the

724
00:28:12,464 --> 00:28:13,866
docket of the Metropolitan

725
00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:14,533
Development Commission on

726
00:28:14,533 --> 00:28:16,933
SEPTEMBER. 16th. Thank you

727
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:20,839
you. Petition Twenty-twenty 60

728
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,239
when 0, 5, one at 41 15 North

729
00:28:23,943 --> 00:28:24,610
High School Road. There anyone

730
00:28:24,610 --> 00:28:27,610
else here on that petition

731
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,322
today? MADAM Hearing Examiner

732
00:28:37,322 --> 00:28:38,560
David Gering officers and 9.21

733
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,560
East 86th Street Suite 2 or 3.

734
00:28:42,594 --> 00:28:43,295
Indianapolis. And this

735
00:28:43,295 --> 00:28:43,962
petition petitioners, the

736
00:28:43,962 --> 00:28:46,362
upward and although repair

737
00:28:47,666 --> 00:28:48,333
shop. They're rezoning from

738
00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:49,835
c-four to see 7 so they can

739
00:28:49,835 --> 00:28:52,835
repair heavy trucks and sell

740
00:28:53,672 --> 00:28:56,720
used cars. Staff has

741
00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:58,474
recommended approval staff is

742
00:28:58,645 --> 00:29:01,450
imposing 2 conditions which we

743
00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:02,714
accept and our 2 commitments

744
00:29:02,714 --> 00:29:06,180
and met with the Pact Township

745
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:06,686
residents Association twice

746
00:29:06,686 --> 00:29:07,353
and worked out commitments

747
00:29:07,353 --> 00:29:09,154
which they would like me to

748
00:29:09,154 --> 00:29:12,154
read into the record. Number

749
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:13,793
one, the owner agrees to abide

750
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:14,460
well these are the same there

751
00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:15,160
once by the open occupancy,

752
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,160
equal employment opportunity

753
00:29:17,864 --> 00:29:19,666
commitments. Acquired by the

754
00:29:19,666 --> 00:29:22,660
mvc resolution so forth.

755
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:24,300
Number number, 2, agree

756
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:24,637
maintain the site and you need

757
00:29:24,637 --> 00:29:27,637
an orderly manner at all

758
00:29:27,941 --> 00:29:29,909
times. And provide containers.

759
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:32,909
And the subject for proper

760
00:29:33,546 --> 00:29:34,247
disposal. Treshon others waste

761
00:29:34,247 --> 00:29:35,782
3. The owner agrees that the

762
00:29:35,782 --> 00:29:37,150
following uses shall be

763
00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:39,150
prohibited. Plasma center,

764
00:29:39,452 --> 00:29:41,188
substance abuse facility.

765
00:29:41,188 --> 00:29:43,188
Check cashing invalidation

766
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:45,580
service, adult entertainment

767
00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:45,625
nightclub, adult

768
00:29:45,625 --> 00:29:47,625
entertainment, retail

769
00:29:48,561 --> 00:29:50,561
business. Temporary and

770
00:29:51,464 --> 00:29:53,366
ongoing firework sales indoor

771
00:29:53,366 --> 00:29:55,366
recreation, entertainment.

772
00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:58,404
That is an event center daily

773
00:29:58,404 --> 00:30:00,390
Emergency Shelter. General

774
00:30:00,390 --> 00:30:00,607
outdoor recreation and

775
00:30:00,607 --> 00:30:02,607
entertainment indoor

776
00:30:03,276 --> 00:30:05,276
recreation. And entertainment

777
00:30:08,248 --> 00:30:09,150
and truck. Stop. For the owner

778
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:10,830
agrees to submit a revised

779
00:30:10,830 --> 00:30:10,717
site plan showing the required

780
00:30:10,717 --> 00:30:13,717
number of spaces for the

781
00:30:14,554 --> 00:30:15,221
disabled. For the owner agrees

782
00:30:15,221 --> 00:30:16,222
to comply with the lighting

783
00:30:16,222 --> 00:30:16,956
standards that the city of

784
00:30:16,956 --> 00:30:19,356
Indianapolis can solve. Zoning

785
00:30:19,425 --> 00:30:21,425
Subdivision ordinance section

786
00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:23,862
7, 4, 4, Dash 604. And that's

787
00:30:27,868 --> 00:30:30,303
the end of the commitments.

788
00:30:30,303 --> 00:30:31,400
Kathleen, additional comments

789
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,604
from staff. Thank you to the

790
00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:39,709
staff has no further comments.

791
00:30:41,514 --> 00:30:43,883
So subject to the commitments

792
00:30:43,883 --> 00:30:45,319
in the written staff report

793
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,719
and commitments requested by

794
00:30:48,189 --> 00:30:50,189
Township residents

795
00:30:50,523 --> 00:30:51,192
association. I am going to

796
00:30:51,192 --> 00:30:53,192
recommend approval of 2026.

797
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,862
See a Wind, 0, 5, 1, that will

798
00:30:54,862 --> 00:30:56,363
be placed on the docket is the

799
00:30:56,363 --> 00:30:57,665
Metropolitan Development

800
00:30:57,665 --> 00:31:00,650
Commission for SEPTEMBER 16th.

801
00:31:04,438 --> 00:31:05,706
Thank you. Thank you. 2026. Un

802
00:31:05,706 --> 00:31:07,706
0, 5, 5 at 16. 24 East 46th

803
00:31:16,617 --> 00:31:19,170
Street. Good afternoon. Here

804
00:31:20,321 --> 00:31:21,822
Seminole, we're told when in

805
00:31:21,822 --> 00:31:24,222
my address is 2, 1, 1, Avenue

806
00:31:24,825 --> 00:31:26,825
suite, 4, 6, 2, 1, 9, I do

807
00:31:27,940 --> 00:31:29,263
represent petitions seal when

808
00:31:29,263 --> 00:31:31,663
0, 5, 5, The proposal was to

809
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,200
rezone the property from issue

810
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,435
one, 2 of the 5 foot to allow

811
00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:37,435
the construction of a 2 unit

812
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:43,740
house or duplex. The only

813
00:31:43,644 --> 00:31:47,844
thing that we would add to our

814
00:31:48,182 --> 00:31:50,251
proposal is in 2,502 1005 seal

815
00:31:50,251 --> 00:31:51,452
0, 5, 4, there was a prior

816
00:31:51,452 --> 00:31:53,200
commitment to pave the alley.

817
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,889
And I believe that's when the

818
00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:55,556
church was proposed on this

819
00:31:55,556 --> 00:31:59,590
lot in the adjacent to the

820
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:59,727
East. The alleys good

821
00:31:59,727 --> 00:32:02,127
condition. We've talked to

822
00:32:02,329 --> 00:32:04,231
staff about it. So we would

823
00:32:04,231 --> 00:32:05,299
ask that petition be

824
00:32:05,299 --> 00:32:06,867
considered for your

825
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:08,350
recommendation for approval

826
00:32:08,350 --> 00:32:11,350
subject to the termination of

827
00:32:11,539 --> 00:32:13,307
commitment to pay the alley as

828
00:32:13,307 --> 00:32:15,707
previously agreed to under

829
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,120
2005, seal when 0, 5, 4, And

830
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,745
with that, we would answer

831
00:32:17,745 --> 00:32:21,345
questions that you MAY have of

832
00:32:24,552 --> 00:32:28,152
us. So yet just as that

833
00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:29,890
require. The approval petition

834
00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:32,689
to be filed to terminate for

835
00:32:32,860 --> 00:32:33,428
Thank you. MADAM. Hearing my

836
00:32:33,428 --> 00:32:35,428
understanding of our

837
00:32:36,965 --> 00:32:39,365
conversation with MR. Dimon

838
00:32:40,735 --> 00:32:43,271
was that prior to any sort of?

839
00:32:43,271 --> 00:32:45,841
Work being done. And a

840
00:32:45,841 --> 00:32:47,841
follow-up modification would

841
00:32:47,843 --> 00:32:50,111
be filed modification petition

842
00:32:50,111 --> 00:32:50,846
to terminate okay. That

843
00:32:50,846 --> 00:32:53,815
commitment. Okay. His life and

844
00:32:53,815 --> 00:32:54,482
it sounded like we're going to

845
00:32:54,482 --> 00:32:58,820
do it right now. And didn't

846
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,990
think that was possible. I

847
00:33:00,990 --> 00:33:01,690
believe it would just be a

848
00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:02,924
commitment that were already

849
00:33:02,924 --> 00:33:05,227
get an understanding there

850
00:33:05,227 --> 00:33:05,861
that unless a termination of

851
00:33:05,861 --> 00:33:07,128
commitment is files, they

852
00:33:07,128 --> 00:33:10,128
would think that sounds good.

853
00:33:10,699 --> 00:33:11,366
Any other comments, Josh? No

854
00:33:11,366 --> 00:33:13,366
additional comments beyond

855
00:33:15,437 --> 00:33:16,370
that. Thank you. Okay.

856
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:18,406
Argument. Is that your

857
00:33:18,406 --> 00:33:19,574
understanding that you will

858
00:33:19,574 --> 00:33:20,208
need to file a and approval to

859
00:33:20,208 --> 00:33:22,677
shun to joke that that is

860
00:33:22,677 --> 00:33:25,677
correct. All right. So subject

861
00:33:34,289 --> 00:33:36,240
to. And approve a petition.

862
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,424
Being filed to terminate

863
00:33:39,428 --> 00:33:42,764
commitment to pave the uses an

864
00:33:42,764 --> 00:33:46,364
ally? Yes, an ally. In the

865
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,668
event that the alley, he's not

866
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:54,439
paint. I am going to recommend

867
00:33:54,476 --> 00:33:56,440
approval of 2026. 0 Winds, 0,

868
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,746
5, 5, And that will be placed

869
00:33:57,746 --> 00:33:58,380
on the docket of the

870
00:33:58,380 --> 00:33:59,981
Metropolitan Development

871
00:33:59,981 --> 00:34:02,381
Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.

872
00:34:06,288 --> 00:34:08,491
Thank you so Thank you. Next

873
00:34:08,491 --> 00:34:10,491
is 2020 61. 0, 5, 9, 3, 3, 7

874
00:34:11,127 --> 00:34:11,860
East Morris Street. Is there

875
00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:15,460
anyone else here today on that

876
00:34:16,464 --> 00:34:17,501
petition? Good afternoon. Good

877
00:34:17,501 --> 00:34:19,334
afternoon. MADAM Hearing

878
00:34:19,334 --> 00:34:21,370
Examiner Chris Barnett with

879
00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:21,670
greater in the Habitat for

880
00:34:21,670 --> 00:34:23,670
Humanity at 31. 35 North

881
00:34:25,607 --> 00:34:26,209
Meridian Street. The should be

882
00:34:26,209 --> 00:34:29,209
the simplest one on the

883
00:34:31,113 --> 00:34:33,149
agenda. This property was

884
00:34:33,149 --> 00:34:35,585
donated to Habitat by the

885
00:34:35,585 --> 00:34:36,485
United Methodist Conference of

886
00:34:36,485 --> 00:34:39,485
Indiana. It formerly had a

887
00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:41,791
parsonage on the lot because

888
00:34:41,791 --> 00:34:42,491
we're switching the use,

889
00:34:42,491 --> 00:34:44,891
obviously from religious used

890
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,464
to residential. We are seeking

891
00:34:48,464 --> 00:34:49,131
this rezoning and Robert has

892
00:34:49,131 --> 00:34:50,500
provided a really thorough

893
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:51,167
analysis. I don't need to say

894
00:34:51,167 --> 00:34:53,567
anymore. All right. Sounds

895
00:34:56,405 --> 00:34:58,509
good to me. Robert, are there

896
00:34:58,509 --> 00:34:59,675
any comments from Seth on this

897
00:34:59,675 --> 00:35:00,276
petition? Thank you to know

898
00:35:00,276 --> 00:35:02,676
staff doesn't have any

899
00:35:04,981 --> 00:35:06,716
additional comments. Okay. So

900
00:35:06,716 --> 00:35:09,151
I am going to recommend

901
00:35:09,151 --> 00:35:11,151
approval of 2026. 0. When 0,

902
00:35:11,954 --> 00:35:13,923
5, 9, That will be placed on

903
00:35:13,923 --> 00:35:14,624
the docket of the Metropolitan

904
00:35:14,624 --> 00:35:16,624
Development Commission on

905
00:35:19,462 --> 00:35:21,862
SEPTEMBER 16th. Thank you.

906
00:35:23,866 --> 00:35:25,866
2020, when 0, 6, 9, and 1, 1,

907
00:35:29,272 --> 00:35:30,506
1, 5, 0 Southeastern Avenue.

908
00:35:30,506 --> 00:35:32,176
Good afternoon. Good

909
00:35:32,176 --> 00:35:34,110
afternoon. And Howard 1, 1, 1,

910
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:36,110
Southeast Avenue for 6, 2, 5,

911
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:41,482
9, We're seeking a rezone. 26

912
00:35:41,884 --> 00:35:42,553
acres from su one to to allow

913
00:35:42,553 --> 00:35:43,153
us to build a single-family

914
00:35:43,153 --> 00:35:46,753
home for my wife and my

915
00:35:49,393 --> 00:35:50,326
children. It's okay. And did

916
00:35:50,326 --> 00:35:52,726
or any neighbors interested

917
00:35:53,263 --> 00:35:53,963
when you sent out notice about

918
00:35:53,963 --> 00:35:54,697
this? I didn't get any return

919
00:35:54,697 --> 00:35:57,970
calls anything. Okay. All

920
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,400
right. Are you here in this

921
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:06,740
petition, sir? Okay, come come

922
00:36:09,613 --> 00:36:12,613
that Come forward, please give

923
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:17,170
your name and address. Thank

924
00:36:17,888 --> 00:36:18,956
you, Jeremy Taurus. 5, 8, 3,

925
00:36:18,956 --> 00:36:22,250
5, Karen Drive. But it is not

926
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:22,725
what I thought it was. So I

927
00:36:22,725 --> 00:36:23,393
Don, promise someone building

928
00:36:23,393 --> 00:36:25,762
a house for themselves and

929
00:36:25,762 --> 00:36:26,663
their family. I was just

930
00:36:26,663 --> 00:36:27,364
scared that there's going to

931
00:36:27,364 --> 00:36:30,000
be a whole subdivision being

932
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,734
built on the 26 acres.

933
00:36:30,734 --> 00:36:32,202
Concern. So did you received

934
00:36:32,202 --> 00:36:35,339
the notice? I did. That's why

935
00:36:35,339 --> 00:36:36,507
I came. Okay. I know I to call

936
00:36:36,507 --> 00:36:37,207
anybody. That's a right to

937
00:36:37,207 --> 00:36:40,377
just for future use. When you

938
00:36:40,377 --> 00:36:42,212
get one of those, it gives you

939
00:36:42,212 --> 00:36:43,514
the name of the petitioner

940
00:36:43,514 --> 00:36:44,481
that you can contact or if you

941
00:36:44,481 --> 00:36:45,215
don't want to do that, you can

942
00:36:45,215 --> 00:36:47,150
call the planner that handling

943
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:48,819
it and then they can into your

944
00:36:48,819 --> 00:36:49,486
questions and save your trip

945
00:36:49,486 --> 00:36:51,886
downtown. Thank you. Okay.

946
00:36:53,658 --> 00:36:55,426
Thank you. Josh. Any comments

947
00:36:55,426 --> 00:36:58,426
from us. Thank you again.

948
00:37:00,832 --> 00:37:03,832
MADAME. Can examine, I would

949
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,370
just similar to the last that

950
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:07,171
individual who spoke. There

951
00:37:07,171 --> 00:37:09,840
were just a couple questions

952
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,209
and I feel I did not receive

953
00:37:12,209 --> 00:37:15,209
any formal monster in that

954
00:37:15,846 --> 00:37:16,580
case and so that is why staff

955
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:17,648
felt it appropriate to keep it

956
00:37:17,648 --> 00:37:19,750
here on the expedited docket.

957
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:22,150
Other than no further

958
00:37:23,954 --> 00:37:26,757
comments, ok? So I am going to

959
00:37:26,757 --> 00:37:28,250
recommend approval of 2026.

960
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:29,459
See a wind, 0, 6, 9, and that

961
00:37:29,459 --> 00:37:31,362
will be placed on the docket

962
00:37:31,362 --> 00:37:32,630
of the Metropolitan

963
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:32,730
Development Commission on

964
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:35,130
SEPTEMBER 16th. Thank you.

965
00:37:40,972 --> 00:37:43,440
Thank you. 2026. See a Wind 0,

966
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,440
7, 3 at 23. 55 North College

967
00:37:50,481 --> 00:37:51,448
and 7.17, East 24th Street.

968
00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:53,848
Use like 23. One Central

969
00:37:55,453 --> 00:37:57,540
Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana.

970
00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:59,691
We are here to petition to

971
00:37:59,691 --> 00:38:01,691
have 23. 55 North College

972
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Avenue and 7 on 7 East 24th

973
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,696
Street rezone from see one to

974
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,400
allow us to build a new single

975
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800
family home and detach

976
00:38:15,106 --> 00:38:16,307
structure. Trash. When did you

977
00:38:16,307 --> 00:38:19,907
want to? I? Oh, I'm sorry,

978
00:38:23,815 --> 00:38:24,749
Robert. Thank you. To staff to

979
00:38:24,749 --> 00:38:26,150
7 administrative request on

980
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:28,190
this petition. The petitioners

981
00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:29,120
name was listed incorrectly on

982
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,888
the legal notice, therefore,

983
00:38:29,888 --> 00:38:30,555
to change that. And then this

984
00:38:30,555 --> 00:38:33,555
will require that you waive

985
00:38:33,591 --> 00:38:34,259
the commission rules to allow

986
00:38:34,259 --> 00:38:36,694
the change. The name change

987
00:38:36,694 --> 00:38:37,362
would be from Jacob

988
00:38:37,362 --> 00:38:38,960
International investment by

989
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,960
and we were, too, Brooke,

990
00:38:41,966 --> 00:38:43,268
Bernhardt by Paul muscle lack.

991
00:38:43,268 --> 00:38:45,336
Nothing else in the request

992
00:38:45,336 --> 00:38:46,204
changes the request and the

993
00:38:46,204 --> 00:38:46,905
address and all that is still

994
00:38:46,905 --> 00:38:49,207
the correct information. This

995
00:38:49,207 --> 00:38:51,109
was just missed. Typed name

996
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:53,509
staff does recommend approval

997
00:38:55,146 --> 00:38:55,880
of the petition okay and MR.

998
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,548
Mousa, look, I'm assuming that

999
00:38:56,548 --> 00:38:58,917
you have no trouble with me

1000
00:38:58,917 --> 00:39:02,517
acting on this change by all

1001
00:39:03,621 --> 00:39:05,123
means good. Okay. So I am

1002
00:39:05,123 --> 00:39:08,123
going to waive the commission

1003
00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:13,832
rules and allow to change the

1004
00:39:13,832 --> 00:39:14,633
petitioner's name and

1005
00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:16,568
representative from Jacob

1006
00:39:16,568 --> 00:39:18,200
International investment by

1007
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,402
and reworked to Brooke

1008
00:39:23,108 --> 00:39:24,276
Bernhardt by Paul Moose elect.

1009
00:39:24,276 --> 00:39:26,812
So again, I I did approve

1010
00:39:26,812 --> 00:39:29,582
that. And then I'm also going

1011
00:39:29,582 --> 00:39:31,982
to recommend approval of 2026.

1012
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,221
When 0, 7, 3, that will be

1013
00:39:35,221 --> 00:39:35,855
placed on the docket of the

1014
00:39:35,855 --> 00:39:37,560
Metropolitan Development

1015
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,560
Commission SEPTEMBER 16. Thank

1016
00:39:45,498 --> 00:39:47,498
you, Companion petitions, 2026

1017
00:39:50,436 --> 00:39:51,704
Cz and Cpl 8.27 at 2015 Wagner

1018
00:39:51,704 --> 00:39:53,500
Lane and threw 36. 69 Van

1019
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,605
Buren Street is or anyone else

1020
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,914
here today on that petition.

1021
00:40:01,914 --> 00:40:04,830
Keith Cruise Line works.

1022
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:05,417
Engineering 63 11 East

1023
00:40:05,417 --> 00:40:06,510
Washington street. Sorry. 6

1024
00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:08,510
through 11 use Westfield

1025
00:40:13,325 --> 00:40:16,262
Boulevard. And then you are

1026
00:40:16,262 --> 00:40:18,397
representing the habitat. As

1027
00:40:18,397 --> 00:40:21,397
as the consultant. Okay. Okay.

1028
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,707
It Thea so. It looks like

1029
00:40:28,707 --> 00:40:30,442
staff's recommending approve

1030
00:40:30,442 --> 00:40:31,143
the rezoning and then

1031
00:40:31,143 --> 00:40:31,944
recommending that the plan to

1032
00:40:31,944 --> 00:40:34,944
be approved subject to the 12

1033
00:40:37,683 --> 00:40:38,384
conditions. Of the

1034
00:40:38,384 --> 00:40:39,180
subdivision, regulations that

1035
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:42,180
are you in agreement with

1036
00:40:42,721 --> 00:40:44,423
what? Josh comments from

1037
00:40:44,423 --> 00:40:45,724
staff, please. Thank you

1038
00:40:45,724 --> 00:40:47,594
again. MADAME Hearing Examiner

1039
00:40:47,594 --> 00:40:50,630
Stephen, just note that this

1040
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:50,630
petition was originally

1041
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:51,364
continued since that

1042
00:40:51,364 --> 00:40:53,764
continuance, I've not received

1043
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:55,835
any further correspondence

1044
00:40:55,835 --> 00:40:56,836
again don't the can we have to

1045
00:40:56,836 --> 00:40:59,836
for the comments beyond that?

1046
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,343
Okay. So I am going to

1047
00:41:03,343 --> 00:41:05,743
recommend approval of 2026 Cz

1048
00:41:09,381 --> 00:41:10,149
n 8.27 In the end that will be

1049
00:41:10,149 --> 00:41:10,784
placed on the docking of the

1050
00:41:10,784 --> 00:41:12,784
Metropolitan Development

1051
00:41:13,850 --> 00:41:15,485
Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.

1052
00:41:18,525 --> 00:41:22,125
I am going to. Approved plat

1053
00:41:23,950 --> 00:41:26,320
2026. Cpl. A 27. And find that

1054
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,234
the platform dated APRIL 22nd

1055
00:41:27,234 --> 00:41:27,934
2026. Complies with the

1056
00:41:27,934 --> 00:41:30,334
standards of the subdivision

1057
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:32,672
regulations. Subject to the 12

1058
00:41:32,672 --> 00:41:34,341
conditions in the written

1059
00:41:34,341 --> 00:41:37,341
staff report. Thank you. Thank

1060
00:41:46,586 --> 00:41:49,289
you. And the final expedited

1061
00:41:49,289 --> 00:41:51,289
petition, his companion

1062
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,160
petitions 2026 e cnn cvr 8.42

1063
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:57,330
38, 30 north Pearl. 38. 0, one

1064
00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:59,330
North Temple. 38. 30 Meadows

1065
00:41:59,766 --> 00:42:00,400
Drive and 28, 0, 6, and 28, 40

1066
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,601
East 38th Street. Again,

1067
00:42:01,601 --> 00:42:04,601
anyone else here today on

1068
00:42:05,338 --> 00:42:07,738
those petitions. Thank you.

1069
00:42:08,575 --> 00:42:09,309
And good afternoon again,

1070
00:42:09,309 --> 00:42:09,976
Mysports all Joe Calder and 11

1071
00:42:09,976 --> 00:42:10,878
South Meridian representing

1072
00:42:10,878 --> 00:42:13,278
the Health and Hospitals

1073
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:15,980
Corporation of Marion County.

1074
00:42:18,385 --> 00:42:19,553
This is a clean-up exercise on

1075
00:42:19,553 --> 00:42:23,560
the rezoning side. As you see

1076
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,560
the blurb, there are. Probably

1077
00:42:26,726 --> 00:42:28,428
a half a dozen existing zoning

1078
00:42:28,428 --> 00:42:30,231
classifications. There is some

1079
00:42:30,231 --> 00:42:32,432
remodeling going on and the

1080
00:42:32,432 --> 00:42:34,234
has worked office building,

1081
00:42:34,234 --> 00:42:34,935
which is 38. 38, I think most

1082
00:42:34,935 --> 00:42:38,535
of us are very familiar with

1083
00:42:38,638 --> 00:42:40,674
that building. And as part of

1084
00:42:40,674 --> 00:42:43,760
that, there was some parking

1085
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,479
to be added to the east and to

1086
00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:46,213
the north. But the ordinance

1087
00:42:46,213 --> 00:42:48,983
is changed to restrict parking

1088
00:42:48,983 --> 00:42:52,583
in front of buildings to one

1089
00:42:52,919 --> 00:42:54,222
row. So that's the variance.

1090
00:42:54,222 --> 00:42:57,222
The rezoning actually came at

1091
00:42:59,693 --> 00:43:03,731
the behest the md to just go

1092
00:43:03,731 --> 00:43:05,633
to the special use 9, which is

1093
00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:06,199
governmental purposes. And it

1094
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:07,602
makes sense from our

1095
00:43:07,602 --> 00:43:09,971
standpoint, just to clean all

1096
00:43:09,971 --> 00:43:11,405
this up, this is going to

1097
00:43:11,405 --> 00:43:12,306
ultimately be, you know, kind

1098
00:43:12,306 --> 00:43:15,906
of treated as one campus for

1099
00:43:16,744 --> 00:43:19,144
health and hospital. There's

1100
00:43:21,449 --> 00:43:22,650
nothing more In the

1101
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:24,585
development pipeline on on

1102
00:43:24,585 --> 00:43:25,620
this parcel of this time. So

1103
00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:28,620
that should be a pretty

1104
00:43:29,257 --> 00:43:29,957
request for you today. There

1105
00:43:29,957 --> 00:43:33,557
was a neighbor that showed up

1106
00:43:33,728 --> 00:43:36,728
this afternoon. I spoke traded

1107
00:43:37,932 --> 00:43:38,566
voicemails yesterday with her.

1108
00:43:38,566 --> 00:43:40,670
Her concern was she just

1109
00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:41,269
wanted to make sure didn't

1110
00:43:41,269 --> 00:43:42,570
affect her property. And she

1111
00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:46,170
that's on Temple, which to the

1112
00:43:46,407 --> 00:43:47,208
West. There's nothing really

1113
00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:48,242
changing on that side of the

1114
00:43:48,242 --> 00:43:48,943
building. So she left

1115
00:43:48,943 --> 00:43:51,943
satisfied to our degree. And

1116
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,149
I. Councilor graves was and

1117
00:43:55,149 --> 00:43:55,850
support when we set out the

1118
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:59,450
notice as well. So answer any

1119
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:00,454
final questions. You MAY have.

1120
00:44:00,454 --> 00:44:01,455
Cancer. Gibson counselor

1121
00:44:01,455 --> 00:44:03,625
Gibson I am so sorry. No,

1122
00:44:03,625 --> 00:44:06,250
that's okay. All right.

1123
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:06,727
Kathleen comments from staff.

1124
00:44:06,727 --> 00:44:09,727
Thank you, Stephen. Have no

1125
00:44:12,935 --> 00:44:14,869
further comments, but just

1126
00:44:14,869 --> 00:44:16,137
Clarify. There were some there

1127
00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:16,804
was a letter and staff looked

1128
00:44:16,804 --> 00:44:17,539
at it and appeared that was

1129
00:44:17,539 --> 00:44:21,139
Henry Mancias. But it was just

1130
00:44:22,476 --> 00:44:23,811
basically that they wanted to

1131
00:44:23,811 --> 00:44:24,513
more information, but

1132
00:44:24,513 --> 00:44:27,315
otherwise staff as success in

1133
00:44:27,315 --> 00:44:27,950
support of these petitions.

1134
00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:31,550
Okay. And I did read the

1135
00:44:31,553 --> 00:44:33,688
letter from cancer. Gibson. I

1136
00:44:33,688 --> 00:44:36,688
am going to recommend approval

1137
00:44:37,259 --> 00:44:38,727
of 2026. Ccna. 42. That will

1138
00:44:38,727 --> 00:44:39,393
be placed on the docket of the

1139
00:44:39,393 --> 00:44:41,393
Metropolitan Development

1140
00:44:43,265 --> 00:44:45,166
Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.

1141
00:44:45,166 --> 00:44:48,166
And I'm going to grant 2026

1142
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:51,906
cvr 8.42 subject to the site

1143
00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:52,641
plan and adopt the findings of

1144
00:44:52,641 --> 00:44:56,241
fact. Thank you so much. Thank

1145
00:45:07,523 --> 00:45:09,523
you.

1146
00:45:13,161 --> 00:45:14,296
We will now hear the

1147
00:45:14,296 --> 00:45:16,198
petition that is on the

1148
00:45:16,198 --> 00:45:18,267
petition scheduled for public

1149
00:45:18,267 --> 00:45:19,401
hearing docket just as a

1150
00:45:19,401 --> 00:45:21,801
reminder, the petitioners will

1151
00:45:23,405 --> 00:45:24,273
have 15 minutes for their

1152
00:45:24,273 --> 00:45:24,940
chief presentation. Fremont's

1153
00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:26,675
traders will also have 15

1154
00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:29,311
minutes. We'll hear from staff

1155
00:45:29,311 --> 00:45:30,279
and then there will be 5

1156
00:45:30,279 --> 00:45:31,113
minutes rebuttal from

1157
00:45:31,113 --> 00:45:33,113
petitioner and 5 minutes

1158
00:45:38,887 --> 00:45:39,788
rebuttal from remote traitors.

1159
00:45:39,788 --> 00:45:42,188
Thank you. MADAM Hearing

1160
00:45:43,659 --> 00:45:46,590
examiner petition for public

1161
00:45:46,461 --> 00:45:48,797
hearing his 2026 z o and 0, 4,

1162
00:45:48,797 --> 00:45:49,699
20, 3 North College Avenue

1163
00:45:49,699 --> 00:45:51,699
Center Township Council

1164
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:56,380
District 13. My guest, I'm not

1165
00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:56,705
sure should not have

1166
00:45:56,705 --> 00:45:58,705
pronounced that right

1167
00:45:59,808 --> 00:46:02,208
Investment llc by David

1168
00:46:02,245 --> 00:46:03,946
Gillman requesting rezoning

1169
00:46:03,946 --> 00:46:05,881
0.1 1 acre from the da

1170
00:46:05,881 --> 00:46:07,282
District to the mu to

1171
00:46:07,282 --> 00:46:10,282
distribute to provide for a

1172
00:46:10,485 --> 00:46:11,920
small mixed use development.

1173
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,589
Well, all those intended to

1174
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:15,457
testify on this petition this

1175
00:46:15,457 --> 00:46:17,493
afternoon, either for or

1176
00:46:17,493 --> 00:46:18,161
against, please stand out and

1177
00:46:18,161 --> 00:46:20,896
raise your right hand to be

1178
00:46:20,896 --> 00:46:23,296
sworn in. Anybody else. 3

1179
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,702
people. Okay. Thank you. Do

1180
00:46:25,702 --> 00:46:26,402
you swear or affirm and the

1181
00:46:26,402 --> 00:46:27,102
penalties of perjury to tell

1182
00:46:27,102 --> 00:46:30,702
the truth and nothing but the

1183
00:46:33,709 --> 00:46:34,410
to say I do. Thank you. In the

1184
00:46:34,410 --> 00:46:36,810
petitioner MAY come forward,

1185
00:46:45,550 --> 00:46:46,890
please. Good afternoon again

1186
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:49,920
for the record. My name is

1187
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:49,760
David Gillman. My address is

1188
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,760
2, 1, 1, southward revenue

1189
00:46:53,363 --> 00:46:55,763
Swede hb plus 4, 6, 2, 1, 9. I

1190
00:46:56,966 --> 00:46:58,134
represent channel Ug. He is

1191
00:46:58,134 --> 00:46:59,235
the owner of property at 2, 0,

1192
00:46:59,235 --> 00:47:01,635
0, 3, North College Avenue. A

1193
00:47:03,173 --> 00:47:06,709
request today before you is to

1194
00:47:06,709 --> 00:47:07,343
rezone a parcel from d 8 to

1195
00:47:07,343 --> 00:47:10,947
him you to to allow us to

1196
00:47:10,947 --> 00:47:12,949
permit a small mixed use

1197
00:47:12,949 --> 00:47:13,650
building on a par. So of about

1198
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:15,785
30 her from side, 4300 square

1199
00:47:15,785 --> 00:47:19,385
feet. So I've given you a

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00:47:20,156 --> 00:47:24,356
handout. And if you will go to

1201
00:47:24,594 --> 00:47:26,496
tab one. What we want to

1202
00:47:26,496 --> 00:47:29,496
demonstrate in the first tab

1203
00:47:29,566 --> 00:47:30,266
is that this proposed

1204
00:47:30,266 --> 00:47:32,436
rezoning. Is appropriate for

1205
00:47:32,436 --> 00:47:34,836
this property for 3 primary

1206
00:47:36,406 --> 00:47:37,140
reasons? One. It does bridge

1207
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:39,540
the commercial and residential

1208
00:47:40,443 --> 00:47:42,879
areas. The lower level retail

1209
00:47:42,879 --> 00:47:44,879
will provide neighborhood

1210
00:47:44,882 --> 00:47:45,615
service activities while 2

1211
00:47:45,615 --> 00:47:47,615
smaller upper-level apartments

1212
00:47:49,850 --> 00:47:49,819
lessons the intensity. As the

1213
00:47:49,819 --> 00:47:52,219
site transitions toward nearby

1214
00:47:53,723 --> 00:47:54,391
single-family homes. The

1215
00:47:54,391 --> 00:47:55,250
second one that matches the

1216
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:57,425
scale of the surrounding

1217
00:47:58,862 --> 00:47:59,596
development. The building is

1218
00:47:59,596 --> 00:48:01,996
significantly smaller than the

1219
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:04,340
commercial uses to our south,

1220
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:06,937
creating a gentle step down in

1221
00:48:06,937 --> 00:48:07,671
height, traffic in intensity.

1222
00:48:07,671 --> 00:48:10,608
Again, as you move towards the

1223
00:48:10,608 --> 00:48:13,800
residential blocks. It reduces

1224
00:48:14,912 --> 00:48:15,712
land, use conflicts. By

1225
00:48:15,712 --> 00:48:18,112
combining a small-scale retail

1226
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:19,917
with low-impact residential.

1227
00:48:19,917 --> 00:48:22,917
The building avoids a Brit

1228
00:48:23,387 --> 00:48:24,922
jump. That would occur with

1229
00:48:24,922 --> 00:48:25,556
either for commercial or for

1230
00:48:25,556 --> 00:48:27,556
multi-family residential

1231
00:48:28,292 --> 00:48:28,993
development along. What I mean

1232
00:48:28,993 --> 00:48:31,128
by that is activity patterns

1233
00:48:31,128 --> 00:48:32,960
would be different.

1234
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Transitions better to a single

1235
00:48:35,933 --> 00:48:36,600
family surrounding area and

1236
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,570
then it would generate less

1237
00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:43,770
traffic. So if you go into the

1238
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:52,160
second tab. But tab will

1239
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:52,583
demonstrate is that we feel

1240
00:48:52,583 --> 00:48:54,983
the rezoning is also

1241
00:48:55,553 --> 00:48:56,287
appropriate for this area.

1242
00:48:56,287 --> 00:48:59,287
It's compatible with parks and

1243
00:49:00,191 --> 00:49:01,959
trails. Mixed use. Buildings

1244
00:49:01,959 --> 00:49:03,160
are commonly placed near parks

1245
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,462
and trails because they

1246
00:49:05,462 --> 00:49:06,564
support walkability

1247
00:49:06,564 --> 00:49:07,264
small-scale retail and housing

1248
00:49:07,264 --> 00:49:09,264
options without overwhelming

1249
00:49:09,833 --> 00:49:12,833
area. Supports the Monon Trail

1250
00:49:13,771 --> 00:49:16,106
corridor. Retail at the ground

1251
00:49:16,106 --> 00:49:18,175
level compliments trail users

1252
00:49:18,175 --> 00:49:19,510
with a small residential

1253
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:20,110
component that aligns with

1254
00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:22,510
Te'o pattern of modest

1255
00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:24,682
neighborhood scale housing.

1256
00:49:24,682 --> 00:49:27,820
Winds with modern planning

1257
00:49:27,985 --> 00:49:29,754
principles. As you know, mixed

1258
00:49:29,754 --> 00:49:31,555
use. Developments are widely

1259
00:49:31,555 --> 00:49:32,256
recognized as the best way to

1260
00:49:32,256 --> 00:49:34,256
connect commercial corridors

1261
00:49:34,859 --> 00:49:36,228
to residential neighborhoods.

1262
00:49:36,228 --> 00:49:38,228
Improving walkability and

1263
00:49:39,830 --> 00:49:40,865
safety. What I mean by

1264
00:49:40,865 --> 00:49:42,990
improving safety. It

1265
00:49:42,990 --> 00:49:44,499
encourages walking or biking

1266
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:45,903
more and driving less. And

1267
00:49:45,903 --> 00:49:48,303
then it provides long-term

1268
00:49:49,306 --> 00:49:50,400
corridor, stability. In this

1269
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,477
slide. You'll see an area that

1270
00:49:52,477 --> 00:49:54,546
I've marked in yellow. To the

1271
00:49:54,546 --> 00:49:57,546
West Central Avenue to the

1272
00:49:57,883 --> 00:50:00,252
north 21st Street. To the east

1273
00:50:00,252 --> 00:50:04,356
is the monon trail and to the

1274
00:50:04,356 --> 00:50:06,258
south is 19th Street. In this

1275
00:50:06,258 --> 00:50:08,600
yellow area. There's over 600

1276
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,600
plus residential structures.

1277
00:50:10,762 --> 00:50:13,199
All of these within a one to 3

1278
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,199
minute bike ride. We're 5 to 7

1279
00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:20,569
minute walk. The second slide

1280
00:50:21,206 --> 00:50:24,806
in tab too. Excuse me. The

1281
00:50:25,744 --> 00:50:26,645
available street parking. This

1282
00:50:26,645 --> 00:50:27,512
aerial image highlights the

1283
00:50:27,512 --> 00:50:30,512
immediate area around the site

1284
00:50:31,950 --> 00:50:32,684
in shows several underutilized

1285
00:50:32,684 --> 00:50:35,840
on-street parking spaces along

1286
00:50:36,488 --> 00:50:38,323
College Avenue. Most of the

1287
00:50:38,323 --> 00:50:39,240
surrounding homes have 2, 3,

1288
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:42,240
car garages that are accessed

1289
00:50:42,427 --> 00:50:43,262
from alleys. And some with

1290
00:50:43,262 --> 00:50:46,262
long driveways that even allow

1291
00:50:46,898 --> 00:50:48,000
vehicles to stack for guests.

1292
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,168
As a result of these

1293
00:50:49,168 --> 00:50:49,834
residents, in our opinion,

1294
00:50:49,834 --> 00:50:52,234
rely very little on-street

1295
00:50:52,237 --> 00:50:54,237
parking. In addition,

1296
00:50:54,806 --> 00:50:56,708
residential parking activity

1297
00:50:56,708 --> 00:50:57,676
normally occurs in the

1298
00:50:57,676 --> 00:50:59,676
evenings. After nearby

1299
00:51:01,446 --> 00:51:02,414
businesses have closed, which

1300
00:51:02,414 --> 00:51:03,140
again, further reduces any

1301
00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:05,414
overlap or conflict and

1302
00:51:11,723 --> 00:51:14,123
parking demand. Tab slide

1303
00:51:15,494 --> 00:51:16,528
shows the site plan

1304
00:51:16,528 --> 00:51:17,195
highlighting the compact

1305
00:51:17,195 --> 00:51:19,595
neighborhood scale. Lay out

1306
00:51:19,831 --> 00:51:20,900
pedestrian-friendly design.

1307
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,300
You'll also see varied

1308
00:51:23,402 --> 00:51:24,103
building setbacks along the

1309
00:51:24,103 --> 00:51:26,103
frontage, which incorporated,

1310
00:51:26,404 --> 00:51:28,207
which were incorporated. To

1311
00:51:28,207 --> 00:51:29,400
create additional space for

1312
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,440
bike racks and comfortable

1313
00:51:34,247 --> 00:51:37,247
walking areas. The next tab. 4

1314
00:51:38,718 --> 00:51:41,118
has 6 slides. These renderings

1315
00:51:42,821 --> 00:51:44,123
of the proposed development.

1316
00:51:44,123 --> 00:51:45,240
In this slide shows the

1317
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,860
College Avenue frontage of the

1318
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:49,829
proposed mixed use building.

1319
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:52,829
With 2 small apartments on the

1320
00:51:52,832 --> 00:51:53,566
second level in a neighborhood

1321
00:51:53,566 --> 00:51:55,835
serving retell either space or

1322
00:51:55,835 --> 00:51:58,835
spaces on the ground level. 4

1323
00:51:59,605 --> 00:52:02,410
b. This slide shows a 20 year

1324
00:52:02,410 --> 00:52:04,100
street side of the building

1325
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,440
with a design is more

1326
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,245
pedestrian, focused. You can

1327
00:52:06,245 --> 00:52:08,481
see the bike racks, wider

1328
00:52:08,481 --> 00:52:10,750
walkways and smaller outdoor

1329
00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:11,417
area that create a comfortable

1330
00:52:11,417 --> 00:52:11,951
space for people walking or

1331
00:52:11,951 --> 00:52:13,951
biking through the

1332
00:52:15,721 --> 00:52:17,123
neighborhood. This strategy is

1333
00:52:17,123 --> 00:52:19,250
by design, skilled for local

1334
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:20,860
activity from the immediate

1335
00:52:20,860 --> 00:52:23,260
neighborhood. The Monon Trail

1336
00:52:25,898 --> 00:52:28,367
and mlk Park to our West.

1337
00:52:28,367 --> 00:52:29,101
Slide 4 c is just another

1338
00:52:29,101 --> 00:52:32,101
perspective of the 20th street

1339
00:52:37,543 --> 00:52:40,513
frontage. White Ford e depicts

1340
00:52:40,513 --> 00:52:41,315
another view facing college

1341
00:52:41,315 --> 00:52:42,140
with the possibility for

1342
00:52:42,140 --> 00:52:44,140
pedestrian friendly, small

1343
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:50,990
skilled bistro. Slide. For

1344
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:53,990
this slide provides a bird's

1345
00:52:54,861 --> 00:52:56,663
eye view of the entire site.

1346
00:52:56,663 --> 00:52:57,331
Showing the compact layout the

1347
00:52:57,331 --> 00:52:58,664
varied setbacks that create

1348
00:52:58,664 --> 00:52:59,799
space for bike racks and

1349
00:52:59,799 --> 00:53:01,400
pedestrians and the overall

1350
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,800
circulation designed for small

1351
00:53:05,606 --> 00:53:07,707
walkable, mixed use. Building.

1352
00:53:07,707 --> 00:53:10,777
And then finally in tab for 4

1353
00:53:10,777 --> 00:53:12,513
f the slide highlights a coin

1354
00:53:12,513 --> 00:53:13,146
outdoor sitting area. It's

1355
00:53:13,146 --> 00:53:13,814
small neighborhood scale

1356
00:53:13,814 --> 00:53:16,214
spaces designed for daytime

1357
00:53:17,950 --> 00:53:18,785
use. Capped with a 07:00pm

1358
00:53:18,785 --> 00:53:21,185
curfew when the retailers

1359
00:53:23,223 --> 00:53:24,892
close. This adds a pedestrian

1360
00:53:24,892 --> 00:53:25,626
amenity to the site where

1361
00:53:25,626 --> 00:53:28,260
remaining fairly respectful to

1362
00:53:31,465 --> 00:53:35,650
the nearby homes. In our final

1363
00:53:37,604 --> 00:53:38,305
5th tab. In 5 a we have a

1364
00:53:38,305 --> 00:53:40,705
neighborhood support email to

1365
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:43,243
Robert. We work closely and

1366
00:53:43,243 --> 00:53:45,643
diligently with the Broadway

1367
00:53:46,146 --> 00:53:46,847
Park Neighborhood Association.

1368
00:53:46,847 --> 00:53:47,548
And there's a part reflects

1369
00:53:47,548 --> 00:53:49,917
the commitments we agreed to

1370
00:53:49,917 --> 00:53:52,317
in writing. These commitments

1371
00:53:53,687 --> 00:53:54,221
were developed to ensure the

1372
00:53:54,221 --> 00:53:55,155
project meets their

1373
00:53:55,155 --> 00:53:57,555
expectations on uses traffic

1374
00:53:58,592 --> 00:54:00,992
and overall compatibility. For

1375
00:54:03,697 --> 00:54:04,398
5 b. These are the 10

1376
00:54:04,398 --> 00:54:06,798
commitments that we've agreed

1377
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,434
to with the neighborhood. I

1378
00:54:07,434 --> 00:54:08,135
won't go through them in

1379
00:54:08,135 --> 00:54:11,135
detail, but I will highlight

1380
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,740
them. They commit they have

1381
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:16,143
restricted uses. We did. We

1382
00:54:16,143 --> 00:54:16,877
think we've committed just to

1383
00:54:16,877 --> 00:54:20,414
the 7 out of all you to use is

1384
00:54:20,414 --> 00:54:21,181
that would be possible. All of

1385
00:54:21,181 --> 00:54:21,915
these are less intense uses

1386
00:54:21,915 --> 00:54:25,285
and require the same amount of

1387
00:54:25,285 --> 00:54:27,187
parking. Elevations and

1388
00:54:27,187 --> 00:54:29,187
building materials. We

1389
00:54:29,189 --> 00:54:30,324
committed to compliance with

1390
00:54:30,324 --> 00:54:32,559
an elevation in standard set

1391
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,228
of materials to be used to

1392
00:54:34,228 --> 00:54:36,397
ensure a more attractive

1393
00:54:36,397 --> 00:54:38,797
building to attract equality.

1394
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,834
Potential users. We committed

1395
00:54:39,834 --> 00:54:42,537
to the site plan that we

1396
00:54:42,537 --> 00:54:44,705
filed. We committed that we

1397
00:54:44,705 --> 00:54:47,705
would ask no parking variances

1398
00:54:48,108 --> 00:54:51,110
as required by the ordinance.

1399
00:54:51,110 --> 00:54:53,214
We've made outdoor activity

1400
00:54:53,214 --> 00:54:53,847
restrictions as I mentioned,

1401
00:54:53,847 --> 00:54:56,847
the curfew on the outdoor

1402
00:54:57,584 --> 00:54:58,319
seating to 07:00pm. No

1403
00:54:58,319 --> 00:54:59,200
drive-thru or drive-up service

1404
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,254
windows. No outdoor speakers

1405
00:55:00,254 --> 00:55:02,654
fully show did ground

1406
00:55:05,393 --> 00:55:06,260
lighting. And then finally we

1407
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:06,794
committed to fencing and

1408
00:55:06,794 --> 00:55:09,794
landscaping to our north and

1409
00:55:11,331 --> 00:55:13,331
east single-family properties.

1410
00:55:15,737 --> 00:55:16,371
The final slide in tab 5. My

1411
00:55:16,371 --> 00:55:18,339
client has been in direct

1412
00:55:18,339 --> 00:55:18,973
contact with the District

1413
00:55:18,973 --> 00:55:21,910
during the course of this

1414
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:23,910
entire project. Received 2

1415
00:55:24,513 --> 00:55:25,314
separate email responses. And

1416
00:55:25,314 --> 00:55:28,314
I want to briefly summarize

1417
00:55:29,984 --> 00:55:30,718
his feedback for the record.

1418
00:55:30,718 --> 00:55:32,187
And both messages. He was very

1419
00:55:32,187 --> 00:55:33,655
favoring of the building's

1420
00:55:33,655 --> 00:55:34,389
design and the way it fits

1421
00:55:34,389 --> 00:55:36,789
into the existing neighborhood

1422
00:55:37,992 --> 00:55:39,727
fabric. He specifically noted

1423
00:55:39,727 --> 00:55:41,963
that the project strengthens

1424
00:55:41,963 --> 00:55:43,698
the walkability along the

1425
00:55:43,698 --> 00:55:44,365
corridor and supports the

1426
00:55:44,365 --> 00:55:46,365
character, the surrounding

1427
00:55:47,335 --> 00:55:47,969
homes and businesses. His

1428
00:55:47,969 --> 00:55:49,969
comments were consistent

1429
00:55:51,773 --> 00:55:52,641
across both emails. He sees

1430
00:55:52,641 --> 00:55:53,274
this as they will skilled

1431
00:55:53,274 --> 00:55:55,274
neighborhood appropriate,

1432
00:55:55,677 --> 00:55:56,345
mixed use building. And he

1433
00:55:56,345 --> 00:55:58,745
expressed clear support for

1434
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,748
the direction we were taking.

1435
00:56:00,748 --> 00:56:01,816
We did request a formal letter

1436
00:56:01,816 --> 00:56:04,385
last week, but not having been

1437
00:56:04,385 --> 00:56:06,955
able to connect with him

1438
00:56:06,955 --> 00:56:07,589
because of this busy budget

1439
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:09,989
hearing schedule that is

1440
00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:14,229
occurring to right now. Those

1441
00:56:14,229 --> 00:56:16,629
are our comments closer

1442
00:56:16,965 --> 00:56:18,299
presentation. We would ask

1443
00:56:18,299 --> 00:56:19,968
that you for this to the nbc

1444
00:56:19,968 --> 00:56:21,236
with a favorable

1445
00:56:21,236 --> 00:56:22,337
recommendation. But we're here

1446
00:56:22,337 --> 00:56:25,337
to answer questions that you

1447
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:28,877
have for My client, thank And

1448
00:56:28,877 --> 00:56:31,120
thank you, MR. Anyone else

1449
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,612
want to speak in support of

1450
00:56:34,884 --> 00:56:37,284
this petition. Andrey much

1451
00:56:40,924 --> 00:56:43,924
traitors. He could state your

1452
00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:46,161
name and address, please. My

1453
00:56:46,161 --> 00:56:49,161
name is Ali to 1957. North

1454
00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:51,231
College Avenue. Indianapolis,

1455
00:56:58,674 --> 00:56:59,241
Indiana, for 6, 2, 0, 2, in.

1456
00:56:59,241 --> 00:57:02,241
Your you are here in

1457
00:57:03,112 --> 00:57:05,347
opposition. Is that right?

1458
00:57:05,347 --> 00:57:08,117
Yes, and I for the record, I'm

1459
00:57:08,117 --> 00:57:08,817
not trying to say I'm in total

1460
00:57:08,817 --> 00:57:09,351
opposition developed, but I'm

1461
00:57:09,351 --> 00:57:11,351
all for responsible

1462
00:57:12,421 --> 00:57:13,289
development and I have

1463
00:57:13,289 --> 00:57:16,289
communicated with both of them

1464
00:57:16,392 --> 00:57:18,792
regarding the traffic 20th

1465
00:57:19,995 --> 00:57:21,665
Street is very narrow. It's

1466
00:57:21,665 --> 00:57:24,665
difficult to see already out

1467
00:57:24,967 --> 00:57:26,535
on college. And so adding to

1468
00:57:26,535 --> 00:57:29,438
businesses as well as to

1469
00:57:29,438 --> 00:57:31,438
residential dwellings. It's

1470
00:57:32,474 --> 00:57:34,874
going to definitely increase

1471
00:57:35,477 --> 00:57:36,612
the traffic. It's already more

1472
00:57:36,612 --> 00:57:37,379
so stressed. And so my

1473
00:57:37,379 --> 00:57:39,882
question is, what can be done

1474
00:57:39,882 --> 00:57:43,520
about their prior to doing it?

1475
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,453
I have to look out for. I'm I

1476
00:57:44,453 --> 00:57:45,120
have a business there. I own

1477
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,488
the building and also have

1478
00:57:46,488 --> 00:57:48,888
other tenants there. So

1479
00:57:49,291 --> 00:57:51,327
there's 3 other tenants in the

1480
00:57:51,327 --> 00:57:53,295
business in the building. They

1481
00:57:53,295 --> 00:57:55,264
face College Avenue. My

1482
00:57:55,264 --> 00:57:55,966
business faces 20th Street. We

1483
00:57:55,966 --> 00:57:56,566
also have a parking lot. But

1484
00:57:56,566 --> 00:57:58,966
then there's the street

1485
00:58:00,769 --> 00:58:01,637
parking. So there's. Been a

1486
00:58:01,637 --> 00:58:02,905
lot of accidents at that

1487
00:58:02,905 --> 00:58:05,175
intersection. And we've even

1488
00:58:05,175 --> 00:58:07,843
had and at a mobile hit our

1489
00:58:07,843 --> 00:58:10,120
building. So I'm very

1490
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,380
concerned about the traffic

1491
00:58:11,380 --> 00:58:11,982
him out. They MAY say that,

1492
00:58:11,982 --> 00:58:14,382
you know, it's they're

1493
00:58:14,517 --> 00:58:17,419
designing it so that people

1494
00:58:17,419 --> 00:58:18,889
can bike rei the Monon trail.

1495
00:58:18,889 --> 00:58:19,588
It sits on college as people

1496
00:58:19,588 --> 00:58:23,188
drive past college is a busy

1497
00:58:24,394 --> 00:58:27,394
street. People will stop. And

1498
00:58:29,132 --> 00:58:29,766
that will calls for cars in.

1499
00:58:29,766 --> 00:58:32,836
He sees it is parking is

1500
00:58:32,836 --> 00:58:33,736
underutilized on the street.

1501
00:58:33,736 --> 00:58:36,139
But that snapshot showed a

1502
00:58:36,139 --> 00:58:39,139
moment in time. I've been

1503
00:58:43,313 --> 00:58:46,616
there for 17 years. Just so I

1504
00:58:46,616 --> 00:58:47,283
just I feel like that. Well,

1505
00:58:47,283 --> 00:58:48,185
I'm not 100% against it. I

1506
00:58:48,185 --> 00:58:51,785
don't feel like we're at a

1507
00:58:52,155 --> 00:58:52,856
point where everything has

1508
00:58:52,856 --> 00:58:55,856
been resolved to move forward

1509
00:58:59,129 --> 00:59:02,899
at this time. And if I just

1510
00:59:02,899 --> 00:59:03,533
ask you so you have the

1511
00:59:03,533 --> 00:59:04,901
building at the southeast

1512
00:59:04,901 --> 00:59:06,336
corner of 20th in college. Is

1513
00:59:06,336 --> 00:59:08,471
that right? Quite and time

1514
00:59:08,471 --> 00:59:11,471
looking at the picture here,

1515
00:59:11,641 --> 00:59:13,143
looks like you have parking.

1516
00:59:13,143 --> 00:59:14,100
And behind your building or to

1517
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,610
the east is arrives at your

1518
00:59:19,490 --> 00:59:20,250
parking or is ok and is your

1519
00:59:20,250 --> 00:59:23,753
your access than is on 20th

1520
00:59:23,753 --> 00:59:26,753
Street current, a quiet. And

1521
00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:28,191
you said you've been there 17

1522
00:59:28,191 --> 00:59:30,591
years, correct? We've owned

1523
00:59:31,261 --> 00:59:33,661
the building about 25 years,

1524
00:59:33,730 --> 00:59:34,898
so And I've lived there for

1525
00:59:34,898 --> 00:59:35,599
about 17 in my business has

1526
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,599
been there for about 6 years.

1527
00:59:40,503 --> 00:59:43,503
Okay. That's fantastic. And I

1528
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:44,774
am glad to hear that you have

1529
00:59:44,774 --> 00:59:47,174
been speaking with the

1530
00:59:51,848 --> 00:59:54,248
petitioner in MISTER Gilman.

1531
00:59:54,585 --> 00:59:57,121
Do you have I? The years on

1532
00:59:57,121 --> 01:00:00,721
what you think you what you

1533
01:00:01,958 --> 01:00:05,950
think needs to be done. So one

1534
01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:05,862
thing I asked them about was

1535
01:00:05,862 --> 01:00:06,564
if they could have a parking

1536
01:00:06,564 --> 01:00:08,565
lot where they would, you

1537
01:00:08,565 --> 01:00:10,670
know, to help with some off

1538
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:11,101
street parking something

1539
01:00:11,101 --> 01:00:14,101
prevent that. The other thing

1540
01:00:14,205 --> 01:00:17,800
is. And I don't know how

1541
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:17,941
possible this would be. But

1542
01:00:17,941 --> 01:00:20,941
adding more traffic to that

1543
01:00:21,678 --> 01:00:24,780
intersection. And it wouldn't

1544
01:00:25,383 --> 01:00:27,351
be on them. But a stoplight it

1545
01:00:27,351 --> 01:00:29,320
will reduce the speeding going

1546
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,210
down college as well as reduce

1547
01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:32,290
the number of accidents that

1548
01:00:32,290 --> 01:00:34,690
are at that intersection.

1549
01:00:37,428 --> 01:00:38,129
Outside of that. I don't have

1550
01:00:38,129 --> 01:00:39,830
anything right off top of my

1551
01:00:39,830 --> 01:00:40,566
head. I am open to discussing

1552
01:00:40,566 --> 01:00:44,766
to try and find, you know, a

1553
01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:45,903
resolution for it. But those

1554
01:00:45,903 --> 01:00:47,905
were a couple of things that I

1555
01:00:47,905 --> 01:00:50,608
its top my mind in that I had

1556
01:00:50,608 --> 01:00:52,777
a couple of questions as well.

1557
01:00:52,777 --> 01:00:53,945
Because I understand there's

1558
01:00:53,945 --> 01:00:56,280
no dedicated on the drawing.

1559
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,449
He had 6 parking spaces. But

1560
01:00:58,449 --> 01:01:01,449
those are not dedicated to.

1561
01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:07,258
The business. Is that correct?

1562
01:01:07,258 --> 01:01:10,661
To me, it looks like it's

1563
01:01:10,661 --> 01:01:11,363
parking on 20th Street. So,

1564
01:01:11,363 --> 01:01:13,398
you know, in light of public

1565
01:01:13,398 --> 01:01:16,670
right away. So which would be

1566
01:01:16,670 --> 01:01:19,667
open to anyone? Yes, okay. And

1567
01:01:21,138 --> 01:01:21,706
then the other was the

1568
01:01:21,706 --> 01:01:22,740
Broadway Neighborhood

1569
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:24,740
Association. Their support

1570
01:01:26,377 --> 01:01:27,445
from that. But we are actually

1571
01:01:27,445 --> 01:01:28,679
Kennedy King and I don't see

1572
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:31,790
anything that's come from

1573
01:01:32,984 --> 01:01:33,651
Kennedy King. And I will let

1574
01:01:33,651 --> 01:01:34,352
MISTER Dylan speak to that

1575
01:01:34,352 --> 01:01:37,352
rebuttal. Like I don't know.

1576
01:01:40,758 --> 01:01:43,758
Okay. I think you mentioned

1577
01:01:44,262 --> 01:01:44,962
the possibility of a stoplight

1578
01:01:44,962 --> 01:01:45,664
stoplight. And and you

1579
01:01:45,664 --> 01:01:47,565
probably know that something

1580
01:01:47,565 --> 01:01:48,165
that that has to go through

1581
01:01:48,165 --> 01:01:50,602
the city and has to be

1582
01:01:50,602 --> 01:01:51,870
warranted and all that. Have

1583
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:52,704
you spoken with counselor

1584
01:01:52,704 --> 01:01:55,704
Brown about your idea about

1585
01:01:57,209 --> 01:01:57,910
stuff like there? You might

1586
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:58,610
want to if you've ever spoken

1587
01:01:58,610 --> 01:02:00,411
with him, but you might want

1588
01:02:00,411 --> 01:02:04,611
to just ask him this if he

1589
01:02:07,753 --> 01:02:08,453
might be willing to. You know,

1590
01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:09,210
to to talk to the city about

1591
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:11,421
whether that's even a

1592
01:02:13,859 --> 01:02:16,859
possibility. Do you have any

1593
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,966
other comments today? No, just

1594
01:02:20,966 --> 01:02:22,968
really want to what we can

1595
01:02:22,968 --> 01:02:24,536
figure out in if it needs to,

1596
01:02:24,536 --> 01:02:25,237
you know, I understand they're

1597
01:02:25,237 --> 01:02:28,837
saying it is a smaller scale,

1598
01:02:29,341 --> 01:02:30,475
but they're still 2 businesses

1599
01:02:30,475 --> 01:02:31,143
to residential dwellings and

1600
01:02:31,143 --> 01:02:34,143
employees will need to park

1601
01:02:35,247 --> 01:02:37,490
there the residents who own

1602
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:39,840
the property when they have

1603
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:40,118
guests. I don't. I just feel

1604
01:02:40,118 --> 01:02:40,619
like everything is not been

1605
01:02:40,619 --> 01:02:42,200
truly taken into

1606
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,957
consideration. As far as the

1607
01:02:44,957 --> 01:02:45,657
impact. Once the building is

1608
01:02:45,657 --> 01:02:46,358
up and the businesses are

1609
01:02:46,358 --> 01:02:49,358
running and people are living

1610
01:02:49,761 --> 01:02:52,497
there as well. Thank you.

1611
01:02:52,497 --> 01:02:54,497
Appreciate your comments.

1612
01:02:55,601 --> 01:02:56,301
Anyone else want to speak in

1613
01:02:56,301 --> 01:02:58,701
opposition to 2026? E '01, 0,

1614
01:02:59,705 --> 01:03:01,705
4, 5, And Robert Staff

1615
01:03:06,511 --> 01:03:07,246
comments. Please. Thank The

1616
01:03:07,246 --> 01:03:10,246
site is an undeveloped parcel.

1617
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:13,887
It is on the far In the 80's

1618
01:03:13,887 --> 01:03:14,587
skews me and the request as a

1619
01:03:14,587 --> 01:03:18,524
result of the mu to to allow

1620
01:03:18,524 --> 01:03:19,925
for mixed use. This proposed

1621
01:03:19,925 --> 01:03:20,759
by the petitioner. They're

1622
01:03:20,759 --> 01:03:21,627
being, I believe, to

1623
01:03:21,627 --> 01:03:22,327
apartments on the second floor

1624
01:03:22,327 --> 01:03:24,830
and commercial retail on the

1625
01:03:24,830 --> 01:03:25,430
ground floor. The

1626
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:27,430
comprehensive plan does

1627
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:28,968
recommend traditional

1628
01:03:28,968 --> 01:03:29,968
neighborhood for the site

1629
01:03:29,968 --> 01:03:31,968
traditional neighborhood does

1630
01:03:33,572 --> 01:03:35,740
allow for residential uses.

1631
01:03:35,740 --> 01:03:35,942
Also allows for small-scale

1632
01:03:35,942 --> 01:03:36,942
offices and small-scale

1633
01:03:36,942 --> 01:03:38,277
retailing, which I believe

1634
01:03:38,277 --> 01:03:38,945
would be similar. What the

1635
01:03:38,945 --> 01:03:41,345
petitioner proposes on the

1636
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:45,985
ground floor. The petitioners,

1637
01:03:45,985 --> 01:03:48,200
site plan indicates curbside

1638
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,420
parking as opposed onsite

1639
01:03:51,958 --> 01:03:52,659
parking. The site is less than

1640
01:03:52,659 --> 01:03:53,326
5,000 Square feet. So there's

1641
01:03:53,326 --> 01:03:54,626
exception in the ordinance

1642
01:03:54,626 --> 01:03:56,296
that on site parking is not

1643
01:03:56,296 --> 01:03:56,963
required for any commercial

1644
01:03:56,963 --> 01:03:59,963
lot. That is smaller than

1645
01:04:05,872 --> 01:04:07,340
5,000 Square feet. The staff

1646
01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:08,141
to receive communication from

1647
01:04:08,141 --> 01:04:08,775
the Broadway neighborhood who

1648
01:04:08,775 --> 01:04:12,375
was on the request of the

1649
01:04:12,378 --> 01:04:13,246
commitments. And their

1650
01:04:13,246 --> 01:04:13,947
boundary is college. So they

1651
01:04:13,947 --> 01:04:16,347
primarily represent the west

1652
01:04:18,685 --> 01:04:19,385
side of college. To the King

1653
01:04:19,385 --> 01:04:20,190
neighborhood, represents the

1654
01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:20,687
east side of college. But

1655
01:04:20,687 --> 01:04:23,870
however, staff received no

1656
01:04:25,325 --> 01:04:26,492
communication from them. Staff

1657
01:04:26,492 --> 01:04:28,661
does recommended this approval

1658
01:04:28,661 --> 01:04:32,261
for request as a feels it

1659
01:04:32,398 --> 01:04:34,798
would be inappropriate. Infill

1660
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,871
development the there is a bus

1661
01:04:37,871 --> 01:04:39,672
line up on the site and that

1662
01:04:39,672 --> 01:04:40,907
could help accommodate any

1663
01:04:40,907 --> 01:04:42,976
need for the lack of parking

1664
01:04:42,976 --> 01:04:45,976
for Jays per the adjacent

1665
01:04:47,747 --> 01:04:48,414
commercial as well. It is not

1666
01:04:48,414 --> 01:04:49,820
a to the bus line. It is a

1667
01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:51,482
regular college Avenue best

1668
01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:55,121
lawn. With that staff is

1669
01:04:55,121 --> 01:04:55,788
recommending approval to have

1670
01:04:55,788 --> 01:04:58,788
to answer any questions you

1671
01:05:09,703 --> 01:05:11,703
MAY have.

1672
01:05:18,878 --> 01:05:19,946
Thank you, Robert

1673
01:05:19,946 --> 01:05:21,480
she just to verify you said

1674
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,516
that Kennedy King did not

1675
01:05:23,516 --> 01:05:24,185
reach out. Right? Correct? I

1676
01:05:24,185 --> 01:05:26,585
have no communication from

1677
01:05:30,324 --> 01:05:33,194
them. Cake did we did you

1678
01:05:33,194 --> 01:05:34,940
receive phone calls? Emails,

1679
01:05:34,940 --> 01:05:36,494
ledger, others from anyone

1680
01:05:39,332 --> 01:05:40,340
either for or against I

1681
01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:42,434
received a communication from

1682
01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:43,737
the Broadway neighborhood. At

1683
01:05:43,737 --> 01:05:46,137
first requested the original

1684
01:05:48,909 --> 01:05:50,909
automatic continuance. And

1685
01:05:50,911 --> 01:05:51,879
then earlier this week, I

1686
01:05:51,879 --> 01:05:52,880
believe on Monday I received

1687
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,614
that they were in support of

1688
01:05:53,614 --> 01:05:56,614
its subject to the commitments

1689
01:05:58,352 --> 01:05:59,186
that they filed. I did. It did

1690
01:05:59,186 --> 01:05:59,987
indicate to them that either

1691
01:05:59,987 --> 01:06:01,880
them or the petitioner would

1692
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,423
need to read those commitments

1693
01:06:02,423 --> 01:06:02,990
into the final since staff

1694
01:06:02,990 --> 01:06:04,325
will stop part of the

1695
01:06:04,325 --> 01:06:06,325
negotiation, which the

1696
01:06:06,427 --> 01:06:07,610
petitioner excuse me, which

1697
01:06:07,610 --> 01:06:09,129
the petitioner has in his

1698
01:06:09,129 --> 01:06:09,997
exhibit as well. Those are the

1699
01:06:09,997 --> 01:06:12,997
same ones that were submitted

1700
01:06:14,501 --> 01:06:18,672
to me by email. But other than

1701
01:06:18,672 --> 01:06:19,373
that I didn't meet the remote

1702
01:06:19,373 --> 01:06:20,400
straighter on site during my

1703
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,640
site visit. And there had a

1704
01:06:23,911 --> 01:06:25,179
discussion at that point where

1705
01:06:25,179 --> 01:06:27,579
there was indication parking

1706
01:06:27,982 --> 01:06:29,818
be in difficult are ready

1707
01:06:29,818 --> 01:06:30,484
beyond that. No other e-mails

1708
01:06:30,484 --> 01:06:32,884
or communication. Okay. All

1709
01:06:36,223 --> 01:06:39,823
right. Thank you. So MR. Given

1710
01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:49,166
you 5 minutes for rebuttal. If

1711
01:06:50,104 --> 01:06:54,304
you could go to, I tend to

1712
01:06:55,943 --> 01:06:57,780
slide to be. And leita and I

1713
01:06:57,780 --> 01:06:58,813
have talked on a number of

1714
01:06:58,813 --> 01:07:00,681
occasions. We've exchanged

1715
01:07:00,681 --> 01:07:03,217
e-mails. My client being a

1716
01:07:03,217 --> 01:07:03,851
business owner next to her is

1717
01:07:03,851 --> 01:07:06,251
committed to continuing a

1718
01:07:08,657 --> 01:07:09,357
relationship. But you asked

1719
01:07:09,357 --> 01:07:12,260
question, what could sum what

1720
01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:15,260
could be done 2 to possibly

1721
01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:17,832
make traffic concern better.

1722
01:07:17,832 --> 01:07:18,567
If you look on my tab to be

1723
01:07:18,567 --> 01:07:22,604
you see a black line that goes

1724
01:07:22,604 --> 01:07:24,506
across 20th Street. Everything

1725
01:07:24,506 --> 01:07:25,173
on the west side of that line

1726
01:07:25,173 --> 01:07:28,773
has a no parking posted on

1727
01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:29,610
both sites. When we were out

1728
01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:32,846
there talking to Lee that we

1729
01:07:32,846 --> 01:07:34,316
would see people pull up and

1730
01:07:34,316 --> 01:07:35,500
park and that no parking area

1731
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:37,953
run inside. Get something come

1732
01:07:37,953 --> 01:07:40,488
back out and take off. The

1733
01:07:40,488 --> 01:07:41,156
other thing we notice is

1734
01:07:41,156 --> 01:07:43,358
delivery people are pulling

1735
01:07:43,358 --> 01:07:44,292
right up on 20th Street and

1736
01:07:44,292 --> 01:07:47,292
getting out taking in their

1737
01:07:50,565 --> 01:07:52,601
deliveries or there. Male were

1738
01:07:52,601 --> 01:07:53,802
whatever it needs to be done.

1739
01:07:53,802 --> 01:07:55,300
And they're using 20th Street

1740
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:55,670
as a place to park right in in

1741
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:59,270
and take care of what they

1742
01:07:59,441 --> 01:08:01,142
need to. And not respecting

1743
01:08:01,142 --> 01:08:02,143
the 20th Street. And those are

1744
01:08:02,143 --> 01:08:04,543
actually parking spaces and

1745
01:08:06,181 --> 01:08:06,948
not for loading and unloading.

1746
01:08:06,948 --> 01:08:07,582
We think of both business

1747
01:08:07,582 --> 01:08:10,582
owners on either side of

1748
01:08:10,652 --> 01:08:12,652
college. Would-be business

1749
01:08:14,956 --> 01:08:16,558
stewards. Talk to their

1750
01:08:16,558 --> 01:08:18,958
customers and their managers.

1751
01:08:20,362 --> 01:08:21,620
To avoid deliveries. Being

1752
01:08:21,620 --> 01:08:23,765
dropped off on 20th Street in

1753
01:08:23,765 --> 01:08:25,433
the required parking spaces.

1754
01:08:25,433 --> 01:08:26,135
To respect a no parking areas

1755
01:08:26,135 --> 01:08:29,471
on 20th Street in college to

1756
01:08:29,471 --> 01:08:32,707
the South. That would a good

1757
01:08:32,707 --> 01:08:34,709
start. If you see the light

1758
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:38,309
blue box that I've labeled on

1759
01:08:39,482 --> 01:08:40,415
college. That's where the no

1760
01:08:40,415 --> 01:08:43,985
parking ends. But of a car

1761
01:08:43,985 --> 01:08:44,953
vehicle was parked there. It

1762
01:08:44,953 --> 01:08:45,554
literally blocks the

1763
01:08:45,554 --> 01:08:46,755
visibility of vehicles

1764
01:08:46,755 --> 01:08:48,623
traveling northbound on

1765
01:08:48,623 --> 01:08:50,792
college. That lane is closest

1766
01:08:50,792 --> 01:08:51,493
to you. So as you approach

1767
01:08:51,493 --> 01:08:53,962
college and wanting to make a

1768
01:08:53,962 --> 01:08:57,132
left or right. If that area is

1769
01:08:57,132 --> 01:08:57,832
blocked and then that creates

1770
01:08:57,832 --> 01:09:00,232
and then favorable condition

1771
01:09:00,402 --> 01:09:03,271
for the site distance. So when

1772
01:09:03,271 --> 01:09:05,274
my closing arguments, we did

1773
01:09:05,274 --> 01:09:06,410
work closely with the

1774
01:09:06,410 --> 01:09:08,410
neighborhood Association. We

1775
01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:11,513
did not have contact with. The

1776
01:09:11,513 --> 01:09:14,513
committee after we sent out

1777
01:09:17,486 --> 01:09:18,870
notices. But we did receive

1778
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:19,155
obviously comments and

1779
01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:21,555
requests to negotiate with.

1780
01:09:23,726 --> 01:09:25,270
Broadway Park. Our District

1781
01:09:25,270 --> 01:09:26,662
Councilor sent 2 separate

1782
01:09:26,662 --> 01:09:27,363
emails expressing real

1783
01:09:27,363 --> 01:09:28,130
enthusiasm for the project in

1784
01:09:28,130 --> 01:09:30,130
for the walkability

1785
01:09:31,330 --> 01:09:32,335
neighborhood skilled design.

1786
01:09:32,335 --> 01:09:33,870
We have met directly with

1787
01:09:33,870 --> 01:09:34,770
every month straighter. We

1788
01:09:34,770 --> 01:09:37,874
agree here at the hearing to

1789
01:09:37,874 --> 01:09:39,242
keep communications open. We

1790
01:09:39,242 --> 01:09:40,276
think are small. So mixed use

1791
01:09:40,276 --> 01:09:42,211
plan helps address the

1792
01:09:42,211 --> 01:09:44,211
intersection concerns she

1793
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:45,182
raised as opposed to a full

1794
01:09:45,182 --> 01:09:47,582
commercial or for multifamily

1795
01:09:49,252 --> 01:09:51,153
development. We think these

1796
01:09:51,153 --> 01:09:52,855
traffic concerns that existed

1797
01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:54,824
20th in college are largely

1798
01:09:54,824 --> 01:09:55,525
preexisting conditions

1799
01:09:55,525 --> 01:09:57,261
inherently created by a much

1800
01:09:57,261 --> 01:09:57,860
larger, more intense c 3 put

1801
01:09:57,860 --> 01:10:00,260
print at that southeast

1802
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:04,300
corner. We think this project

1803
01:10:06,335 --> 01:10:06,969
strength strengthens safety

1804
01:10:06,969 --> 01:10:07,637
improves walkability and

1805
01:10:07,637 --> 01:10:08,304
reduces lane just conflict

1806
01:10:08,304 --> 01:10:08,971
through its limited impact

1807
01:10:08,971 --> 01:10:11,371
uses and pedestrian focus.

1808
01:10:12,275 --> 01:10:13,910
Design. This is a modest,

1809
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:16,579
awful, mixed use, zoning and

1810
01:10:16,579 --> 01:10:17,613
building shape with

1811
01:10:17,613 --> 01:10:18,715
neighborhood collaboration.

1812
01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:19,448
And we respectfully your

1813
01:10:19,448 --> 01:10:21,848
approval recommendation to the

1814
01:10:25,455 --> 01:10:26,290
mdc. Request to possibly do

1815
01:10:26,290 --> 01:10:26,890
surface parking my

1816
01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:28,890
understanding a surface

1817
01:10:30,394 --> 01:10:31,940
parking is prohibited. Even if

1818
01:10:31,940 --> 01:10:33,529
we were to try to do surface

1819
01:10:33,529 --> 01:10:34,298
parking through a variance,

1820
01:10:34,298 --> 01:10:37,298
what spaces we would getting

1821
01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:39,202
on site would be lost because

1822
01:10:39,202 --> 01:10:40,804
of our access approach on 20th

1823
01:10:40,804 --> 01:10:43,204
Street would eliminate street

1824
01:10:44,841 --> 01:10:46,420
parking space. So really

1825
01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:46,609
didn't think there would be

1826
01:10:46,609 --> 01:10:49,679
any any to go in that

1827
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:51,615
direction. Again, a step

1828
01:10:51,615 --> 01:10:52,515
mentioned there's no required

1829
01:10:52,515 --> 01:10:55,515
parking for Parcells this mall

1830
01:10:57,521 --> 01:10:58,855
for that very reason. We will

1831
01:10:58,855 --> 01:10:59,590
certainly continue our

1832
01:10:59,590 --> 01:11:01,657
relationship with the lead and

1833
01:11:01,657 --> 01:11:03,227
her business managers and

1834
01:11:03,227 --> 01:11:03,927
tenants and to make sure that

1835
01:11:03,927 --> 01:11:06,930
we both do everything we can

1836
01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:09,867
to try to monitor the activity

1837
01:11:09,867 --> 01:11:10,902
out on 20th Street again. With

1838
01:11:10,902 --> 01:11:13,302
respect to deliveries and

1839
01:11:23,413 --> 01:11:24,810
customers. Thank you. Ms

1840
01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:26,481
Osborne, you have 5 minutes

1841
01:11:33,624 --> 01:11:34,424
rebuttal. Please. One thing I

1842
01:11:34,424 --> 01:11:36,360
like to say when I first

1843
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,695
started my business there as

1844
01:11:38,695 --> 01:11:39,363
well. I looked at the effect

1845
01:11:39,363 --> 01:11:42,166
of we're very close to the

1846
01:11:42,166 --> 01:11:43,601
Monon trail. And it would draw

1847
01:11:43,601 --> 01:11:46,370
in a lot of business from

1848
01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:47,500
there. Most people are not

1849
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,500
leaving off of the trail.

1850
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:50,741
They're continuing on and you

1851
01:11:50,741 --> 01:11:53,911
get more from the traffic on

1852
01:11:53,911 --> 01:11:55,312
college. Because they drive

1853
01:11:55,312 --> 01:11:57,948
by. They see they see the

1854
01:11:57,948 --> 01:11:59,490
signs. They go back and forth

1855
01:11:59,490 --> 01:12:02,490
we were standing out there

1856
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:04,755
that day people did pull up

1857
01:12:04,755 --> 01:12:08,125
right to the on there at 20th

1858
01:12:08,125 --> 01:12:08,760
Street. But one guy he was not

1859
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,826
just the look like he was

1860
01:12:09,826 --> 01:12:10,561
going to stay right in that

1861
01:12:10,561 --> 01:12:12,663
area where you're not supposed

1862
01:12:12,663 --> 01:12:15,699
to. But he did pull up

1863
01:12:15,699 --> 01:12:17,101
delivery drivers to come. The

1864
01:12:17,101 --> 01:12:20,701
postal, guy comes in parks and

1865
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,341
he walks alone. But again. As

1866
01:12:24,341 --> 01:12:27,941
is stated, it splits open for

1867
01:12:29,113 --> 01:12:32,113
parking for anyone. It's still

1868
01:12:32,383 --> 01:12:34,783
going to. Increased congestion

1869
01:12:37,210 --> 01:12:37,654
in that area. I just still

1870
01:12:37,654 --> 01:12:39,224
stand on the whole safety

1871
01:12:39,224 --> 01:12:41,860
aspect of it. It's not doing

1872
01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:44,462
anything to improve it. And

1873
01:12:44,462 --> 01:12:46,564
I'm not saying that that's

1874
01:12:46,564 --> 01:12:47,297
their fault. He owns the

1875
01:12:47,297 --> 01:12:49,667
property in, you know, is want

1876
01:12:49,667 --> 01:12:50,268
to put something there. It

1877
01:12:50,268 --> 01:12:52,668
could be beneficial for

1878
01:12:54,739 --> 01:12:55,440
everyone in the area. It but

1879
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,409
the safety issue is just not

1880
01:12:58,409 --> 01:12:59,770
being addressed. And I feel

1881
01:12:59,770 --> 01:13:01,477
like that's more important

1882
01:13:13,491 --> 01:13:14,792
than anything.

1883
01:13:14,792 --> 01:13:16,792
Okay. Thank

1884
01:13:29,207 --> 01:13:31,207
you.

1885
01:13:34,312 --> 01:13:35,790
I appreciate comments and

1886
01:13:35,790 --> 01:13:38,790
again, I appreciate the fact

1887
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:39,784
that you have been talking

1888
01:13:39,784 --> 01:13:41,620
with each other and I I would

1889
01:13:41,620 --> 01:13:44,620
encourage you to continue to

1890
01:13:45,191 --> 01:13:49,991
do that. I'm not sure I I know

1891
01:13:50,595 --> 01:13:52,430
that. The Broadway Park

1892
01:13:52,430 --> 01:13:54,430
Neighborhood Association is

1893
01:13:56,568 --> 01:13:57,635
they have Taking a position a

1894
01:13:57,635 --> 01:13:58,336
number of petitions in this

1895
01:13:58,336 --> 01:14:01,336
area. I know they're they're

1896
01:14:01,873 --> 01:14:04,273
pretty active. In public

1897
01:14:07,712 --> 01:14:08,413
hearings. I I don't know if.

1898
01:14:08,413 --> 01:14:12,130
Candy King has the same level

1899
01:14:12,218 --> 01:14:14,920
of involvement. But I did note

1900
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,222
that that they were sent a

1901
01:14:16,222 --> 01:14:19,222
legal notice of this hearing.

1902
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:24,829
So they were made aware of it.

1903
01:14:24,829 --> 01:14:29,290
This is in my opinion. This is

1904
01:14:30,236 --> 01:14:33,836
a unique site not only because

1905
01:14:34,974 --> 01:14:36,175
of its small size, but because

1906
01:14:36,175 --> 01:14:37,910
fact there's development

1907
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:39,678
around it. And so there are a

1908
01:14:39,678 --> 01:14:41,247
lot of restrictions on what

1909
01:14:41,247 --> 01:14:43,647
could action actually be

1910
01:14:45,851 --> 01:14:48,200
developed on the site. And and

1911
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,890
I don't know this for us

1912
01:14:50,890 --> 01:14:54,426
sacked, but my guess is trying

1913
01:14:54,426 --> 01:14:56,128
to develop the site for. Under

1914
01:14:56,128 --> 01:14:58,964
the current da toning would

1915
01:14:58,964 --> 01:15:01,964
would probably cause a lot

1916
01:15:02,802 --> 01:15:03,503
Issues as far as meeting those

1917
01:15:03,503 --> 01:15:07,103
standards. So I do feel like

1918
01:15:09,742 --> 01:15:12,344
this is unique site. In my

1919
01:15:12,344 --> 01:15:15,344
opinion, the propose mixed use

1920
01:15:16,882 --> 01:15:17,583
development. Does conform with

1921
01:15:17,583 --> 01:15:19,983
the comp plan. Recommendation

1922
01:15:21,387 --> 01:15:22,210
is, as Robert explained,

1923
01:15:22,210 --> 01:15:22,688
traditional neighborhood

1924
01:15:22,688 --> 01:15:24,688
development which certainly

1925
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,194
can include a mixed use

1926
01:15:28,194 --> 01:15:30,594
development. I also agree

1927
01:15:34,633 --> 01:15:35,334
that. The scale is

1928
01:15:35,334 --> 01:15:37,734
appropriate. Don't feel like

1929
01:15:40,973 --> 01:15:43,973
the proposed. The use or

1930
01:15:44,143 --> 01:15:47,143
building is going to overwhelm

1931
01:15:50,984 --> 01:15:51,817
or overpower the site. I'm it

1932
01:15:51,817 --> 01:15:53,587
to me. It sounds like I have

1933
01:15:53,587 --> 01:15:55,870
certainly gone up and down

1934
01:15:55,870 --> 01:15:55,788
college countless times in.

1935
01:15:55,788 --> 01:15:59,388
And I know what you're saying

1936
01:16:00,594 --> 01:16:03,594
about traffic. Again, in my

1937
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:08,934
opinion, I feel like. Any

1938
01:16:08,934 --> 01:16:11,204
traffic issue is already

1939
01:16:11,204 --> 01:16:12,710
there. I I don't think that

1940
01:16:12,710 --> 01:16:14,471
this particular proposal is

1941
01:16:17,143 --> 01:16:19,179
going to. Exacerbate that. So

1942
01:16:19,179 --> 01:16:21,548
for those reasons, I am going

1943
01:16:21,548 --> 01:16:23,948
to recommend approval of 2026.

1944
01:16:25,285 --> 01:16:26,219
Zia when 0 for 5 that would be

1945
01:16:26,219 --> 01:16:26,853
placed on the docket of the

1946
01:16:26,853 --> 01:16:28,853
Metropolitan Development

1947
01:16:28,889 --> 01:16:29,990
Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.

1948
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:34,190
And again, I think you all for

1949
01:16:34,661 --> 01:16:35,161
coming down this afternoon.

1950
01:16:35,161 --> 01:16:35,896
Judy, with their

1951
01:16:35,896 --> 01:16:38,296
recommendation will be subject

1952
01:16:38,632 --> 01:16:39,933
to the commitments. I am so

1953
01:16:39,933 --> 01:16:41,935
sorry, Robert. Yes, that would

1954
01:16:41,935 --> 01:16:42,602
be subject to the 10.

1955
01:16:42,602 --> 01:16:45,200
Commitments. I think that's

1956
01:16:50,744 --> 01:16:51,478
right. Requested by. Bradley

1957
01:16:51,478 --> 01:16:52,546
Park Neighborhood Association.

1958
01:16:52,546 --> 01:16:56,146
Yes, thank you. Thank you very

1959
01:16:58,151 --> 01:16:58,953
much. Thank you. Do we have

1960
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any other business before us

1961
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today? We are adjourned.