[0:09] Good afternoon.
[0:11] The meeting of the mdc hearing
[0:12] examiner for AUGUST 27th 2026
[0:16] will now come to order. Couple
[0:17] of announcements reminders
[0:19] before I read the rules of
[0:21] procedure. If you have
[0:21] electronic devices, make sure
[0:24] they earn silent. And if you
[0:25] do have to have conversation,
[0:26] please go out in the hall to
[0:29] do that. The indices rules of
[0:32] procedure provide that the
[0:32] administrator MAY limit the
[0:34] number of new petitions
[0:35] docketed for the hearing
[0:39] examiner. The current planning
[0:40] staff is currently limited.
[0:40] Shunning limiting the number
[0:43] of new petitions to 10. This
[0:43] will be in effect for an
[0:48] indefinite period. The public
[0:48] hearing today will be
[0:49] conducted in accordance with
[0:51] the rules of procedure of the
[0:51] Metropolitan Development
[0:55] Commission. The petitioner and
[0:56] the rim on traders will each
[0:58] have a total period of 15
[1:00] minutes for their sworn
[1:02] testimony. We will hear the
[1:04] staff recommendation and then
[1:05] the petitioner and reminds
[1:06] traders will each have a total
[1:07] period of 5 minutes for a
[1:11] rebound. Reasonable,
[1:13] additional time will also be
[1:13] allowed for any member of the
[1:15] City County Council to provide
[1:16] testimony regarding a
[1:20] petition. Any party who has
[1:21] just spent satisfied with any
[1:22] recommendation or decision
[1:23] made today has an automatic
[1:26] right to an appeal. The
[1:28] dissatisfied party must file
[1:31] the appeal with the Department
[1:31] of Metropolitan Development
[1:32] within 5 business days after
[1:36] today. Additional notice of
[1:37] the appeal is required to be
[1:38] made to the individuals who
[1:40] are required to be notified
[1:40] under the mdc rules of
[1:45] procedure. Please contact
[1:46] staff within one to 2 days
[1:49] after today's hearing to
[1:50] discuss giving timely notice
[1:55] using the designated appeal
[1:56] also approval and modification
[1:58] petitions for which I make a
[1:59] recommendation to the
[2:01] Metropolitan Development
[2:02] Commission for approval or
[2:03] denial will be placed on the
[2:06] mdc agenda for Wednesday,
[2:11] SEPTEMBER. 16th 2026. Any
[2:11] commitments agreed to for such
[2:14] put it for such petitions must
[2:15] be submitted to step before
[2:17] the designated in dc meeting
[2:18] date and no later than
[2:23] SEPTEMBER 9th. 2026. Please
[2:26] note that any variance plat
[2:27] and vacation petition for
[2:29] which I approve or deny today
[2:30] will not be scheduled for
[2:33] further hearing. And the
[2:35] decision will be final unless
[2:35] an appeal is filed in
[2:36] accordance with the rules of
[2:40] procedure. We'll now begin
[2:41] with special requests,
[2:43] including withdraws in
[2:44] continuances. I'm first going
[2:46] to ask Nancy to read into the
[2:48] record all of the special
[2:50] request of which she is aware
[2:51] then will take special request
[2:52] from the audience. And finally
[2:55] special requests from staff.
[2:55] Thank you, Man. Im hearing
[3:03] examiner. Chris, we have 2026
[3:06] 0, 0, 7, 2, 76. 44 Big Ben
[3:06] Boulevard Center Township
[3:09] Council District 19 and on a
[3:12] medic continues to SEPTEMBER
[3:13] 24th 2026. Has been filed by
[3:14] Register neighborhood
[3:18] organization. Is there anyone
[3:21] here today on 2026 e u n 0, 7,
[3:23] 2 at 76. 44 Big Ben Boulevard.
[3:24] Again, that is an automatic
[3:26] continuance. Michael, any
[3:29] comments from staff? Thank
[3:30] you, MADAM Hearing examiner,
[3:33] no additional comments. Am
[3:36] going to acknowledge the
[3:39] automatic continuance of 2026,
[3:40] 0, 1, 0, 7, 2, to the
[3:48] SEPTEMBER 24th hearing. Thank
[3:50] you, 2026. Easy. 8, 3, 6 2026.
[3:56] Cbre 3, 6, at 23. 26 East 44th
[3:56] Street where she Township
[4:00] Council district 8. We have a
[4:02] staff requests for continues
[4:05] for Costa SEPTEMBER 24th 2026.
[4:07] And is there anyone here today
[4:09] on companion petitions 2026
[4:12] easy cv or 8.36, the 23. 26
[4:15] East 41st Street risking it.
[4:16] Good afternoon. MADAM Hearing
[4:18] Examiner Justin King addresses
[4:22] 27 22 maker Street
[4:22] Indianapolis, Indiana, 4, 6,
[4:24] 2, or We're green mint and
[4:26] supportive of staff's request
[4:30] to the SEPTEMBER 24th docket.
[4:30] And I believe this would be
[4:34] without additional notice. I
[4:35] might also add that we are
[4:36] seeking a four-day waiver of
[4:39] the mailing requirements.
[4:40] Okay. Happy to answer any
[4:40] questions you might have.
[4:47] Okay. So lets to the waiver
[4:50] request first again, is there
[4:51] anyone else here on 2026, tz
[4:56] it and cvr 8.36 Kathleen
[4:59] staff's No way thank you,
[4:59] Judy, of this waiver is
[5:03] required due to Some delay on
[5:05] our part. What's the staff
[5:06] would have no objection to the
[5:07] four-day waiver. And then
[5:08] again, the continuance is to
[5:10] request some additional time
[5:11] to work with the committee of
[5:14] the Petitioner on this one.
[5:16] Okay. In that is the way just
[5:17] for written are also for
[5:24] posted. Notice. I believe we
[5:24] got the signs up 2 days after
[5:25] the deadline. They were up
[5:30] before the notice went out. So
[5:31] today's after the deadline.
[5:32] Correct? Okay. Today we on the
[5:32] signs for day on the legal
[5:39] case. All right. I going to
[5:41] grant the today waiver of the
[5:42] posted notice in 40 waiver of
[5:45] the written notice for
[5:47] companion petitions 2026 easy
[5:52] cvr 8.36 And then I am going
[5:56] to continue those petitions to
[5:56] the SEPTEMBER 24th hearing. Is
[5:58] that without notice? Cut And
[5:59] that would be without
[6:01] additional notice. All right.
[6:05] Thank you. Like you're up
[6:12] next. And it said the
[6:16] petitions are 2026. Easy. And
[6:20] 8, 3, aged 2026. Cbre 3, 8,
[6:21] That's 69, 15 east. Washington
[6:22] Street. One Township Council
[6:26] district 20. Staff is
[6:27] requesting that continues for
[6:31] cars to OCTOBER. 29 2026. In
[6:33] his anyone else here today on
[6:37] companion petitions 2026 see
[6:39] cnn Cbr 8.38 At 69 15 east
[6:43] Washington street. Kate is
[6:44] ticking once again. Justin
[6:47] King in at just 27. 22 maker
[6:47] Street Indianapolis, Indiana,
[6:51] for 6, 2 or 3. Again, we're
[6:53] supportive of the request made
[6:53] by staff to continue this case
[6:57] to the OCTOBER 29th hearing
[7:00] dates. We anticipate that
[7:01] legal notice might or the
[7:02] request MAY change and
[7:02] therefore legal notice would
[7:05] be need to be. Modified. And
[7:09] recent we're not to that point
[7:10] We know that that request will
[7:12] change. So will could have to
[7:13] deal with that as
[7:14] conversations take place with
[7:19] staff. This one would also
[7:20] require us to request a
[7:20] one-day waiver of both the
[7:22] legal notices and the sign
[7:27] regulation. Okay. Again, you
[7:29] and anyone else here on the
[7:30] petitions at 69 15 east,
[7:36] Washington street. Kathleen
[7:37] comments on the Thank you
[7:38] staff would have no objection
[7:39] to the one-day waiver of the
[7:43] notice and posting the sign.
[7:45] And again, this would be with
[7:46] additional notice if required
[7:51] to the OCTOBER 29th hearing.
[7:52] So am going to grant a windy
[7:53] waiver of the written and
[7:56] posted notice for 2026. See
[8:00] cnn cvr 8.38 And continue
[8:02] those petitions to the OCTOBER
[8:04] 29th hearing with notice if
[8:16] necessary. Next is 2026. Easy
[8:19] and 8.44 In 2026, ebr 8. 44 66
[8:23] 20 north Human Way Xi Jin
[8:26] Township Council District 3
[8:28] the night and then it
[8:30] continues to 9/24/2026. Been
[8:30] filed by city County
[8:35] Councilor. There anyone else
[8:37] here today on companion
[8:40] petitions 2026? Easy cvr 8.44
[8:44] at 66 20 north few way. Good
[8:45] afternoon, MISS Sports Hall
[8:47] Joe Calder and 11 South
[8:48] Meridian, Indianapolis
[8:49] representing the petitioner in
[8:51] this matter. We are in contact
[8:53] with counselor boots and the
[8:57] other umbrella. Neighborhood
[8:58] organizations were holding a
[8:59] committee community meeting
[9:01] next Tuesday. So we anticipate
[9:02] being in good shape. By the
[9:07] time we return next month. And
[9:08] Kathleen, any additional
[9:09] comments from Thank you, This
[9:12] would require is your meant?
[9:14] Can going to acknowledge the
[9:17] automatic continuance of
[9:17] companion petitions 2026? Easy
[9:24] cvr 8.44, thank you. Are there
[9:25] special request from the
[9:26] audience for continuing won't
[9:30] withdraw. All expediting. Good
[9:32] afternoon. Good afternoon,
[9:35] office at 16. 38 Shelby Street
[9:35] Suite. One, Indianapolis,
[9:36] Indiana, on behalf of Punjab
[9:39] property for petition 2026.
[9:44] And Modi. 0, 0, 3, With
[9:44] regards to property. 8600
[9:47] comes road. And we are
[9:51] requesting a continuance and
[9:53] unfortunately based on some of
[9:54] the people in attendance, I
[9:55] believe there was a MISS
[9:56] Communication on that part of
[10:02] it. But staff informed us a
[10:03] few days ago that dpw is
[10:04] requesting a traffic impact.
[10:08] Study. And and that will take
[10:09] some time for the petitioner
[10:13] to complete. And and there's
[10:18] also been. Wetland delineation
[10:20] report that some of the
[10:26] neighborhood committee. And
[10:28] has, but it has been unable to
[10:28] provide a copy of staff. Does
[10:32] not have a copy of. And so we
[10:34] would like to see that as well
[10:35] since our engine. The
[10:39] petitioners engineer and
[10:40] that's not have any of the
[10:40] property designated as
[10:44] wetlands in there report. So
[10:46] what does the continuance
[10:53] request? 2 OCTOBER 29th? Okay.
[10:55] I actually saw the email
[10:56] exchange and I know that that
[10:56] was requested a couple weeks
[10:59] ago. I was there such a delay
[11:04] in getting that under way.
[11:05] That was a couple weeks ago,
[11:07] but it would typically they
[11:10] take 30 to 60 days, too. Yeah,
[11:11] but you said the staff you
[11:12] just found out a couple days
[11:16] ago. Oh, no. Sorry, okay. Into
[11:19] debt. You tried to make the
[11:22] rim on traders aware the
[11:23] continuances of 2 said he is.
[11:24] think there was MISS
[11:25] Communication. I told them
[11:27] about the request for the and
[11:31] traffic impact. Study. Okay.
[11:34] Is there anyone but here that
[11:37] wants to speak on the
[11:39] continuance request for 2026.
[11:42] Him. Od. 0, 0, 3. 8600 Combs
[11:42] Road. And again, the content.
[11:46] The request is to continue to
[11:47] OCTOBER. 29th from today's
[11:48] hearing. Is there anyone here
[11:48] on those petitions? Yes,
[11:51] ma'am. If you would, please
[11:55] state your name and address.
[11:57] Robin Heldman. 88 24 Combs
[12:01] Road Indianapolis, Indiana.
[12:03] Today is the first day that I
[12:05] heard that he was asking for a
[12:06] continuance. We have
[12:10] communicated via e-mail. He
[12:11] did discuss that they had a
[12:12] traffic study which I was
[12:13] aware that was a couple of
[12:18] weeks ago, but communication
[12:19] there was no further
[12:20] communication. We do have
[12:21] several people here that we're
[12:27] ready to testify in opposition
[12:30] I'm just curious what if it is
[12:31] continued? What does this
[12:32] whole process just start
[12:34] again, where we come here
[12:35] before you and then it
[12:38] proceeds. But if if say we
[12:39] don't want it to be continued
[12:43] and move for what? What
[12:44] happens? That's good question.
[12:46] I show of hands. Can I see who
[12:47] else is here today on this
[12:49] petition on Combs wrote, ok,
[12:52] so dozen people or so? Yeah,
[12:56] and I understand it. It's very
[12:57] much an inconvenience with
[12:57] driving here and paying for
[13:01] parking and all that I would
[13:05] say that. First of all, I'm
[13:06] I'm disappointed that it was
[13:07] not communicated to you that
[13:12] that this. In my opinion, this
[13:14] is not something that I can
[13:14] here today because there is a
[13:16] vital piece of information
[13:17] that that is not going to be
[13:21] ready for a couple months so I
[13:24] don't think it would be best
[13:25] served to hear the petition
[13:29] today. Another option that I
[13:30] have, which is still going to
[13:35] involve everybody coming back.
[13:36] Is to send the petition
[13:37] directly to the Metropolitan
[13:38] Development Commission for an
[13:41] initial hearing. But if I do
[13:42] that, it has to be their
[13:44] SEPTEMBER 16th date because
[13:49] that that. As I announced to
[13:51] my rules, anything heard today
[13:54] goes to SEPTEMBER 16th and out
[13:55] Lee. It's gonna have to be
[13:56] continued from them because
[13:58] studies can be done yet. So my
[14:02] preference would be go ahead,
[14:04] continue it out. And let's
[14:05] make sure that OCTOBER 29th
[14:10] is. Far enough out because
[14:14] after that date, I wouldn't be
[14:15] likely to grant any more
[14:15] continuances on behalf of the
[14:20] petitioner. So again, I know
[14:21] it's an inconvenience. I
[14:26] apologize for that. Do you
[14:27] feel like that's something you
[14:28] and your group could work west
[14:32] on that OCTOBER 29th date.
[14:33] Yes. So we have your the
[14:34] SEPTEMBER 16th. They would be
[14:36] a problem for okay. So get
[14:38] that my only other question or
[14:41] request is that we have
[14:42] communicated with the
[14:45] petitioners rep attorney and
[14:48] there were supposed to be
[14:49] revised site plans time and
[14:51] that was back in JUNE, I think
[14:52] is when they initially said
[14:53] they were going to have those.
[14:54] He still has not submitted
[14:55] those. I don't believe to
[14:58] staff and he is not. And so we
[14:59] have not seen those. I've
[15:01] invited him to the Franklin
[15:03] Township Land Use Committee
[15:05] meeting and he hasn't come
[15:05] because he doesn't have those
[15:06] revised plans. But he didn't
[15:10] mention that here. So I'm just
[15:10] questioning. When will those
[15:13] be submitted as well the track
[15:14] study? Okay. All right. Thank
[15:18] you. Thank you. Does anyone e
[15:19] else want to speak to this
[15:22] continuance request? She could
[15:25] state your name and address
[15:26] right City County Council for
[15:30] District. 25. I would also
[15:32] like let me know that I am
[15:32] here in opposition of this
[15:37] proposal. So I think we've had
[15:38] it I'm going to budget season
[15:39] right now the city. So forgive
[15:40] me for I know how has been
[15:43] continued so far. However, I
[15:45] think it's time we start to
[15:47] move forward with hit traffic
[15:48] study is going to show us that
[15:50] this is going to be a feasible
[15:51] use of the land given the
[15:52] restrictions of the plane of
[15:58] of. County line and that
[16:00] turning point right there is
[16:01] simply just too tight for
[16:02] something like this co into a
[16:06] semis. So well, it MAY or MAY
[16:06] not be able to make this
[16:09] actually goes forward before
[16:10] you like it be noted, along
[16:12] with the letter of submitted
[16:13] in your packet that I am in
[16:15] saying opposition of this, ok,
[16:16] thank you. And I appreciate
[16:18] coming today. Anybody else
[16:22] want to speak to the
[16:22] continuous request of this
[16:25] petition? Okay. And Kathleen
[16:27] comments from staff. Thank
[16:30] you, Judy. I just want to
[16:31] clarify that what is being
[16:34] requested by dpw is a traffic
[16:37] which is a traffic operation
[16:40] analysis and not a full-blown
[16:43] traffic impact. Study. They
[16:44] hit as specifically to look at
[16:48] the intersections of stop 11
[16:50] and Combs Road and county and
[16:50] Combs wrote. So I just wanted
[16:54] to get that clarified. As you
[16:56] know, this has been continued.
[16:58] This is initially set for
[16:59] hearing in APRIL. And this has
[17:00] been continued throughout the
[17:05] summer, Steph. We'll support a
[17:06] continuance to the OCTOBER
[17:08] 29th but will not support any
[17:09] more continuances if they are
[17:11] not ready to go forward and
[17:12] they either need to withdraw
[17:14] or this needs to be dismissed.
[17:19] Okay. Do you think that this
[17:21] should be with notice since
[17:23] there's been? I think that
[17:26] would be appropriate given
[17:27] fact that it has on for so
[17:28] long in Chile. Assume you you
[17:31] don't have that revised site
[17:32] plan. No, okay. Nothing new
[17:35] has been submitted to the
[17:38] okay. The the petitioner to
[17:39] the file since was initially
[17:40] filed folk and I know that MR.
[17:44] Rooney indicated the e.
[17:44] Wetlands so many Asian it
[17:45] would be appropriate for him
[17:46] to forward that. So it can be
[17:50] filed. Okay. All right, MR.
[17:55] Rooney, clarify, we don't have
[17:59] the wetland delineation. We we
[18:00] are told by the neighborhood
[18:03] that they have the wetland
[18:05] delineation designating the
[18:05] property as wetlands, but
[18:08] they've been unable to provide
[18:08] a cop because they only have
[18:11] one hard copy and they thought
[18:12] staff might have it. Staff
[18:16] says they do not. Noticed
[18:18] staff does not have a copy of
[18:21] that. That is one of the
[18:24] commitments Seth is going has
[18:26] requested as part this
[18:28] petition. So, yes, hasn't been
[18:32] conducted then. I mean, it's
[18:33] be required me. So that sounds
[18:34] like titian or yesterday that,
[18:38] yes, it would be up to the
[18:38] petitioner. He is just
[18:40] clarifying the neighborhood
[18:45] stated they had a previous
[18:45] report stating that it was
[18:47] wetlands in our engineer. It
[18:54] saying it is not. Would appear
[18:56] that engineer needs to submit
[18:56] documentation that it is not a
[19:00] wet one. Because if you look
[19:02] at the site is clear that
[19:04] there is a wetland that
[19:09] occupies most of this site.
[19:09] That, fact, extends to the
[19:13] parcel south of. This site. So
[19:15] it sounds like in the next 2
[19:19] months. You and your client
[19:29] have to. Verify. Where the
[19:29] wetland delineation is or if
[19:30] again, they're saying there
[19:32] isn't one they need to provide
[19:34] documentation of that. You
[19:39] have to prove here that do.
[19:41] You think that OCTOBER 29th is
[19:42] enough time? Because as you
[19:45] have heard, others say a we're
[19:48] not going to grant any more
[19:50] continuances on behalf the
[19:51] petitioner. So do you think
[19:54] that OCTOBER 29th is a
[19:55] reasonable date? If you are
[19:58] willing to continue no further
[19:59] to be safe, we would. But if
[20:03] you're not, we would. Would
[20:04] try to make sure we have
[20:10] everything by OCTOBER 29th.
[20:15] So. Again, do you think
[20:16] OCTOBER 29th is a reasonable
[20:24] date? Or should we? Think we
[20:24] will. We can make the OCTOBER
[20:28] 29th state work. Okay. And I
[20:31] do feel like that should be
[20:32] with notice. But in addition
[20:35] to notice, if you can also
[20:37] keep the counselor and
[20:38] Franklin Township Civic League
[20:39] in, you know, any interested
[20:41] neighbors informed. I think
[20:46] that would be very helpful. So
[20:47] I am going to continue 2026.
[20:49] And Modi, 0, 0, 3, 2, the
[20:50] OCTOBER. 29 tearing and that
[20:52] is with notice. Thank you.
[20:56] Thank you. Any other special
[21:05] request from the audience?
[21:06] Good afternoon. Again we're
[21:09] told Joe Calder and 11 South
[21:10] Meridian, Indianapolis
[21:11] representing Health and
[21:13] Hospitals Corporation. Agenda
[21:19] item 12. That's 2026 easy and
[21:21] cbre. 42 various addresses on
[21:22] world. Temple Meadows Drive
[21:26] and 30 a street. We are
[21:28] requesting a two-day waiver of
[21:29] both written notice and the
[21:33] posted sign. Is there anyone
[21:36] here today on companion
[21:41] petitions, 2026 e cnn cvr 8.42
[21:43] And various addresses on rural
[21:46] Temple Meadows Drive and East
[21:47] 38th Street. And again, the
[21:48] request is for a two-day
[21:53] waiver of the written notice
[21:54] for those petition and the
[21:55] sign in the sand with written
[22:00] and posted. Yes. And Kathleen
[22:01] comments from thank you. To
[22:02] the staff would have no
[22:04] objection to a two-day waiver
[22:05] of the written notice and the
[22:10] posting of the sign. Okay. So
[22:11] I am going to uproot it. Prove
[22:14] a two-day waiver of the
[22:15] written and posted notice for
[22:18] companion petitions 2026 see
[22:23] cnn cvr. 42. Other special
[22:28] request from the audience. Do
[22:29] we have any special requests
[22:39] from the staff? Yes, thank
[22:40] you. Staff would draw your
[22:40] attention to item number 15 on
[22:44] your agenda. Haven't discussed
[22:48] this with both the petitioner
[22:49] and community organizations.
[22:52] They have decided to continue
[22:52] this for one months. And that
[22:56] would be, too. I believe the
[22:57] 24th of SEPTEMBER. And Steph
[23:01] has no objection to that.
[23:02] Okay. And is that without
[23:03] notice? Yes, at this time
[23:06] there would be without notice.
[23:08] Okay. Is there anyone else
[23:11] here today on 2026, 0, 0, 6, 5
[23:15] at to Madison Avenue. And
[23:17] again, that request is for a
[23:19] 30 day. Continuance. Okay in
[23:20] petitioners. Not here.
[23:27] Correct. I am going to
[23:28] continue 2026 year when 0, 6,
[23:32] 5, To the SEPTEMBER 20 force
[23:36] hearing. And that is without
[23:42] additional notice. Any other
[23:42] special requests from staff
[23:55] today? We will now consider
[23:56] the petitions on the expedited
[23:59] portion of the dock. It these
[24:00] are petitions were staff has
[24:02] recommended approval of the
[24:04] request and staff has not been
[24:04] made aware of any opposition
[24:08] to the petitions. If there are
[24:10] reminds traitors present for a
[24:11] particular petition are
[24:12] members of the public who
[24:14] object to a petition being
[24:15] recommended for approval are
[24:16] being approved. We will hear
[24:19] testimony before a decision is
[24:21] made. Ines need to to read
[24:23] into the record all of the
[24:24] petitions on the expedited
[24:26] portion of the docket. She
[24:29] will then ask for you all to
[24:29] stand up and be sworn in. And
[24:33] then I'm call those up in
[24:34] chronological order and ask
[24:35] you to just give very brief
[24:38] comments on each one of those.
[24:39] Thank you. MADAM Union Salmon
[24:44] are The petitions to be
[24:47] extradited are just 1, in
[24:52] 2026. App's 0, 1, 5, At 18, 0,
[24:53] 7 Central Avenue Center
[24:59] Township Council District 13.
[25:00] 2026, 0 5, one. 41 50 North
[25:02] High School Road Pike Township
[25:10] Council District 5. 2026, 0,
[25:12] 0, 5, 5 it 16. 24 East 46th
[25:13] Street Washington Township
[25:19] Council District 7. 2026, 0,
[25:21] 0, 5, 9, 3, 3, 7, east, more
[25:22] history. Senator Township
[25:26] Council District 18. 2026, 0,
[25:34] 0, 6, 9, 11,001 50 is 1, 1, 1,
[25:35] 5, 0, Southeastern Avenue.
[25:36] Franklin Township Council
[25:45] district. 25. 2026 0 in 0, 7,
[25:46] 3, 8, 23. 55 North College
[25:49] Avenue and 7, 1, 7 East 24th
[25:50] Street Senator Township
[25:56] Council district 8. 2026, easy
[25:59] and 8 to 7 with 2026. Epl 8 to
[26:04] 7, the 2050 Wagner Lane. And
[26:06] 36, 69 Van Buren Street
[26:07] Senator Township Council
[26:13] District 19. 2026, easy and 8
[26:17] for 2 2026. Cvr 8, 4, 2, at
[26:21] 38. 39 through street. 38
[26:22] zeros. One North Temple
[26:27] Avenue. And 38 30 medals drive
[26:29] and 28, 0, 6 28, 40 East 38th
[26:31] Street, Washington Township
[26:35] Council district 8. Well, all
[26:36] those continued to testify on
[26:38] these petitions this
[26:39] afternoon. Please stand now to
[26:40] be identified. Who's going to
[26:41] speak for these? Please raise
[26:46] your right hands. Do you swear
[26:48] or affirm of the pill? Use a
[26:49] pretty to tell the truth and
[26:50] nothing but the to say I do.
[26:53] Thank you.
[27:01] If the petitioner for 2026, a
[27:04] p p 0, 1, 5, at 18, 0, 7
[27:06] Central Avenue could come
[27:08] forward. Please. And just to
[27:08] make sure there's no one else
[27:11] here on that petition today at
[27:15] 18. 0, 7 Central Avenue. Okay.
[27:18] Yes, use like 23. 0, one
[27:20] Central Avenue, Indianapolis,
[27:21] Indiana. We are seeking
[27:26] approval for. A new
[27:27] construction, single-family
[27:28] home and carriage house of
[27:29] which plans already been
[27:33] submitted for. It is pk to
[27:34] zoning. So we required to get
[27:37] the additional approval here
[27:39] And it looks like staff's
[27:40] recommending approval subject
[27:42] to substantial compliance with
[27:43] the site plan and elevations
[27:44] folded to JULY 2nd. Are you in
[27:45] agreement with that? I agree,
[27:48] ok? Thank you, Robert.
[27:50] Additional comments from
[27:51] staff. Thank you to staff a
[27:55] stuff the additional. All
[27:59] right. So subject to.
[28:00] Substantial compliance with
[28:01] the site plan and elevations
[28:04] filed dated JULY second 2026.
[28:05] I am going to recommend
[28:08] approval of 2026. App's 0, 1,
[28:10] 5, that will be placed on the
[28:12] docket of the Metropolitan
[28:13] Development Commission on
[28:14] SEPTEMBER. 16th. Thank you
[28:20] you. Petition Twenty-twenty 60
[28:20] when 0, 5, one at 41 15 North
[28:23] High School Road. There anyone
[28:24] else here on that petition
[28:35] today? MADAM Hearing Examiner
[28:37] David Gering officers and 9.21
[28:38] East 86th Street Suite 2 or 3.
[28:42] Indianapolis. And this
[28:43] petition petitioners, the
[28:43] upward and although repair
[28:47] shop. They're rezoning from
[28:48] c-four to see 7 so they can
[28:49] repair heavy trucks and sell
[28:53] used cars. Staff has
[28:56] recommended approval staff is
[28:58] imposing 2 conditions which we
[29:01] accept and our 2 commitments
[29:02] and met with the Pact Township
[29:06] residents Association twice
[29:06] and worked out commitments
[29:07] which they would like me to
[29:09] read into the record. Number
[29:13] one, the owner agrees to abide
[29:13] well these are the same there
[29:14] once by the open occupancy,
[29:15] equal employment opportunity
[29:17] commitments. Acquired by the
[29:19] mvc resolution so forth.
[29:23] Number number, 2, agree
[29:24] maintain the site and you need
[29:24] an orderly manner at all
[29:27] times. And provide containers.
[29:29] And the subject for proper
[29:33] disposal. Treshon others waste
[29:34] 3. The owner agrees that the
[29:35] following uses shall be
[29:37] prohibited. Plasma center,
[29:39] substance abuse facility.
[29:41] Check cashing invalidation
[29:44] service, adult entertainment
[29:45] nightclub, adult
[29:45] entertainment, retail
[29:48] business. Temporary and
[29:51] ongoing firework sales indoor
[29:53] recreation, entertainment.
[29:57] That is an event center daily
[29:58] Emergency Shelter. General
[30:00] outdoor recreation and
[30:00] entertainment indoor
[30:03] recreation. And entertainment
[30:08] and truck. Stop. For the owner
[30:09] agrees to submit a revised
[30:10] site plan showing the required
[30:10] number of spaces for the
[30:14] disabled. For the owner agrees
[30:15] to comply with the lighting
[30:16] standards that the city of
[30:16] Indianapolis can solve. Zoning
[30:19] Subdivision ordinance section
[30:21] 7, 4, 4, Dash 604. And that's
[30:27] the end of the commitments.
[30:30] Kathleen, additional comments
[30:31] from staff. Thank you to the
[30:36] staff has no further comments.
[30:41] So subject to the commitments
[30:43] in the written staff report
[30:45] and commitments requested by
[30:48] Township residents
[30:50] association. I am going to
[30:51] recommend approval of 2026.
[30:53] See a Wind, 0, 5, 1, that will
[30:54] be placed on the docket is the
[30:56] Metropolitan Development
[30:57] Commission for SEPTEMBER 16th.
[31:04] Thank you. Thank you. 2026. Un
[31:05] 0, 5, 5 at 16. 24 East 46th
[31:16] Street. Good afternoon. Here
[31:20] Seminole, we're told when in
[31:21] my address is 2, 1, 1, Avenue
[31:24] suite, 4, 6, 2, 1, 9, I do
[31:27] represent petitions seal when
[31:29] 0, 5, 5, The proposal was to
[31:32] rezone the property from issue
[31:33] one, 2 of the 5 foot to allow
[31:34] the construction of a 2 unit
[31:40] house or duplex. The only
[31:43] thing that we would add to our
[31:48] proposal is in 2,502 1005 seal
[31:50] 0, 5, 4, there was a prior
[31:51] commitment to pave the alley.
[31:53] And I believe that's when the
[31:54] church was proposed on this
[31:55] lot in the adjacent to the
[31:59] East. The alleys good
[31:59] condition. We've talked to
[32:02] staff about it. So we would
[32:04] ask that petition be
[32:05] considered for your
[32:06] recommendation for approval
[32:08] subject to the termination of
[32:11] commitment to pay the alley as
[32:13] previously agreed to under
[32:16] 2005, seal when 0, 5, 4, And
[32:17] with that, we would answer
[32:17] questions that you MAY have of
[32:24] us. So yet just as that
[32:28] require. The approval petition
[32:29] to be filed to terminate for
[32:32] Thank you. MADAM. Hearing my
[32:33] understanding of our
[32:36] conversation with MR. Dimon
[32:40] was that prior to any sort of?
[32:43] Work being done. And a
[32:45] follow-up modification would
[32:47] be filed modification petition
[32:50] to terminate okay. That
[32:50] commitment. Okay. His life and
[32:53] it sounded like we're going to
[32:54] do it right now. And didn't
[32:58] think that was possible. I
[33:00] believe it would just be a
[33:01] commitment that were already
[33:02] get an understanding there
[33:05] that unless a termination of
[33:05] commitment is files, they
[33:07] would think that sounds good.
[33:10] Any other comments, Josh? No
[33:11] additional comments beyond
[33:15] that. Thank you. Okay.
[33:16] Argument. Is that your
[33:18] understanding that you will
[33:19] need to file a and approval to
[33:20] shun to joke that that is
[33:22] correct. All right. So subject
[33:34] to. And approve a petition.
[33:36] Being filed to terminate
[33:39] commitment to pave the uses an
[33:42] ally? Yes, an ally. In the
[33:47] event that the alley, he's not
[33:50] paint. I am going to recommend
[33:54] approval of 2026. 0 Winds, 0,
[33:56] 5, 5, And that will be placed
[33:57] on the docket of the
[33:58] Metropolitan Development
[33:59] Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.
[34:06] Thank you so Thank you. Next
[34:08] is 2020 61. 0, 5, 9, 3, 3, 7
[34:11] East Morris Street. Is there
[34:11] anyone else here today on that
[34:16] petition? Good afternoon. Good
[34:17] afternoon. MADAM Hearing
[34:19] Examiner Chris Barnett with
[34:21] greater in the Habitat for
[34:21] Humanity at 31. 35 North
[34:25] Meridian Street. The should be
[34:26] the simplest one on the
[34:31] agenda. This property was
[34:33] donated to Habitat by the
[34:35] United Methodist Conference of
[34:36] Indiana. It formerly had a
[34:40] parsonage on the lot because
[34:41] we're switching the use,
[34:42] obviously from religious used
[34:46] to residential. We are seeking
[34:48] this rezoning and Robert has
[34:49] provided a really thorough
[34:50] analysis. I don't need to say
[34:51] anymore. All right. Sounds
[34:56] good to me. Robert, are there
[34:58] any comments from Seth on this
[34:59] petition? Thank you to know
[35:00] staff doesn't have any
[35:04] additional comments. Okay. So
[35:06] I am going to recommend
[35:09] approval of 2026. 0. When 0,
[35:11] 5, 9, That will be placed on
[35:13] the docket of the Metropolitan
[35:14] Development Commission on
[35:19] SEPTEMBER 16th. Thank you.
[35:23] 2020, when 0, 6, 9, and 1, 1,
[35:29] 1, 5, 0 Southeastern Avenue.
[35:30] Good afternoon. Good
[35:32] afternoon. And Howard 1, 1, 1,
[35:34] Southeast Avenue for 6, 2, 5,
[35:39] 9, We're seeking a rezone. 26
[35:41] acres from su one to to allow
[35:42] us to build a single-family
[35:43] home for my wife and my
[35:49] children. It's okay. And did
[35:50] or any neighbors interested
[35:53] when you sent out notice about
[35:53] this? I didn't get any return
[35:54] calls anything. Okay. All
[35:57] right. Are you here in this
[36:03] petition, sir? Okay, come come
[36:09] that Come forward, please give
[36:14] your name and address. Thank
[36:17] you, Jeremy Taurus. 5, 8, 3,
[36:18] 5, Karen Drive. But it is not
[36:22] what I thought it was. So I
[36:22] Don, promise someone building
[36:23] a house for themselves and
[36:25] their family. I was just
[36:26] scared that there's going to
[36:27] be a whole subdivision being
[36:30] built on the 26 acres.
[36:30] Concern. So did you received
[36:32] the notice? I did. That's why
[36:35] I came. Okay. I know I to call
[36:36] anybody. That's a right to
[36:37] just for future use. When you
[36:40] get one of those, it gives you
[36:42] the name of the petitioner
[36:43] that you can contact or if you
[36:44] don't want to do that, you can
[36:45] call the planner that handling
[36:47] it and then they can into your
[36:48] questions and save your trip
[36:49] downtown. Thank you. Okay.
[36:53] Thank you. Josh. Any comments
[36:55] from us. Thank you again.
[37:00] MADAME. Can examine, I would
[37:05] just similar to the last that
[37:06] individual who spoke. There
[37:07] were just a couple questions
[37:09] and I feel I did not receive
[37:12] any formal monster in that
[37:15] case and so that is why staff
[37:16] felt it appropriate to keep it
[37:17] here on the expedited docket.
[37:19] Other than no further
[37:23] comments, ok? So I am going to
[37:26] recommend approval of 2026.
[37:28] See a wind, 0, 6, 9, and that
[37:29] will be placed on the docket
[37:31] of the Metropolitan
[37:32] Development Commission on
[37:32] SEPTEMBER 16th. Thank you.
[37:40] Thank you. 2026. See a Wind 0,
[37:43] 7, 3 at 23. 55 North College
[37:50] and 7.17, East 24th Street.
[37:51] Use like 23. One Central
[37:55] Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana.
[37:57] We are here to petition to
[37:59] have 23. 55 North College
[38:02] Avenue and 7 on 7 East 24th
[38:05] Street rezone from see one to
[38:08] allow us to build a new single
[38:09] family home and detach
[38:15] structure. Trash. When did you
[38:16] want to? I? Oh, I'm sorry,
[38:23] Robert. Thank you. To staff to
[38:24] 7 administrative request on
[38:26] this petition. The petitioners
[38:28] name was listed incorrectly on
[38:29] the legal notice, therefore,
[38:29] to change that. And then this
[38:30] will require that you waive
[38:33] the commission rules to allow
[38:34] the change. The name change
[38:36] would be from Jacob
[38:37] International investment by
[38:38] and we were, too, Brooke,
[38:41] Bernhardt by Paul muscle lack.
[38:43] Nothing else in the request
[38:45] changes the request and the
[38:46] address and all that is still
[38:46] the correct information. This
[38:49] was just missed. Typed name
[38:51] staff does recommend approval
[38:55] of the petition okay and MR.
[38:55] Mousa, look, I'm assuming that
[38:56] you have no trouble with me
[38:58] acting on this change by all
[39:03] means good. Okay. So I am
[39:05] going to waive the commission
[39:12] rules and allow to change the
[39:13] petitioner's name and
[39:14] representative from Jacob
[39:16] International investment by
[39:18] and reworked to Brooke
[39:23] Bernhardt by Paul Moose elect.
[39:24] So again, I I did approve
[39:26] that. And then I'm also going
[39:29] to recommend approval of 2026.
[39:33] When 0, 7, 3, that will be
[39:35] placed on the docket of the
[39:35] Metropolitan Development
[39:37] Commission SEPTEMBER 16. Thank
[39:45] you, Companion petitions, 2026
[39:50] Cz and Cpl 8.27 at 2015 Wagner
[39:51] Lane and threw 36. 69 Van
[39:53] Buren Street is or anyone else
[40:01] here today on that petition.
[40:01] Keith Cruise Line works.
[40:04] Engineering 63 11 East
[40:05] Washington street. Sorry. 6
[40:06] through 11 use Westfield
[40:13] Boulevard. And then you are
[40:16] representing the habitat. As
[40:18] as the consultant. Okay. Okay.
[40:27] It Thea so. It looks like
[40:28] staff's recommending approve
[40:30] the rezoning and then
[40:31] recommending that the plan to
[40:31] be approved subject to the 12
[40:37] conditions. Of the
[40:38] subdivision, regulations that
[40:39] are you in agreement with
[40:42] what? Josh comments from
[40:44] staff, please. Thank you
[40:45] again. MADAME Hearing Examiner
[40:47] Stephen, just note that this
[40:50] petition was originally
[40:50] continued since that
[40:51] continuance, I've not received
[40:55] any further correspondence
[40:55] again don't the can we have to
[40:56] for the comments beyond that?
[41:01] Okay. So I am going to
[41:03] recommend approval of 2026 Cz
[41:09] n 8.27 In the end that will be
[41:10] placed on the docking of the
[41:10] Metropolitan Development
[41:13] Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.
[41:18] I am going to. Approved plat
[41:23] 2026. Cpl. A 27. And find that
[41:26] the platform dated APRIL 22nd
[41:27] 2026. Complies with the
[41:27] standards of the subdivision
[41:32] regulations. Subject to the 12
[41:32] conditions in the written
[41:34] staff report. Thank you. Thank
[41:46] you. And the final expedited
[41:49] petition, his companion
[41:53] petitions 2026 e cnn cvr 8.42
[41:56] 38, 30 north Pearl. 38. 0, one
[41:57] North Temple. 38. 30 Meadows
[41:59] Drive and 28, 0, 6, and 28, 40
[42:00] East 38th Street. Again,
[42:01] anyone else here today on
[42:05] those petitions. Thank you.
[42:08] And good afternoon again,
[42:09] Mysports all Joe Calder and 11
[42:09] South Meridian representing
[42:10] the Health and Hospitals
[42:13] Corporation of Marion County.
[42:18] This is a clean-up exercise on
[42:19] the rezoning side. As you see
[42:23] the blurb, there are. Probably
[42:26] a half a dozen existing zoning
[42:28] classifications. There is some
[42:30] remodeling going on and the
[42:32] has worked office building,
[42:34] which is 38. 38, I think most
[42:34] of us are very familiar with
[42:38] that building. And as part of
[42:40] that, there was some parking
[42:43] to be added to the east and to
[42:45] the north. But the ordinance
[42:46] is changed to restrict parking
[42:48] in front of buildings to one
[42:52] row. So that's the variance.
[42:54] The rezoning actually came at
[42:59] the behest the md to just go
[43:03] to the special use 9, which is
[43:05] governmental purposes. And it
[43:06] makes sense from our
[43:07] standpoint, just to clean all
[43:09] this up, this is going to
[43:11] ultimately be, you know, kind
[43:12] of treated as one campus for
[43:16] health and hospital. There's
[43:21] nothing more In the
[43:22] development pipeline on on
[43:24] this parcel of this time. So
[43:25] that should be a pretty
[43:29] request for you today. There
[43:29] was a neighbor that showed up
[43:33] this afternoon. I spoke traded
[43:37] voicemails yesterday with her.
[43:38] Her concern was she just
[43:40] wanted to make sure didn't
[43:41] affect her property. And she
[43:42] that's on Temple, which to the
[43:46] West. There's nothing really
[43:47] changing on that side of the
[43:48] building. So she left
[43:48] satisfied to our degree. And
[43:52] I. Councilor graves was and
[43:55] support when we set out the
[43:55] notice as well. So answer any
[43:59] final questions. You MAY have.
[44:00] Cancer. Gibson counselor
[44:01] Gibson I am so sorry. No,
[44:03] that's okay. All right.
[44:06] Kathleen comments from staff.
[44:06] Thank you, Stephen. Have no
[44:12] further comments, but just
[44:14] Clarify. There were some there
[44:16] was a letter and staff looked
[44:16] at it and appeared that was
[44:17] Henry Mancias. But it was just
[44:22] basically that they wanted to
[44:23] more information, but
[44:24] otherwise staff as success in
[44:27] support of these petitions.
[44:27] Okay. And I did read the
[44:31] letter from cancer. Gibson. I
[44:33] am going to recommend approval
[44:37] of 2026. Ccna. 42. That will
[44:38] be placed on the docket of the
[44:39] Metropolitan Development
[44:43] Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.
[44:45] And I'm going to grant 2026
[44:49] cvr 8.42 subject to the site
[44:51] plan and adopt the findings of
[44:52] fact. Thank you so much. Thank
[45:07] you.
[45:13] We will now hear the
[45:14] petition that is on the
[45:16] petition scheduled for public
[45:18] hearing docket just as a
[45:19] reminder, the petitioners will
[45:23] have 15 minutes for their
[45:24] chief presentation. Fremont's
[45:24] traders will also have 15
[45:26] minutes. We'll hear from staff
[45:29] and then there will be 5
[45:30] minutes rebuttal from
[45:31] petitioner and 5 minutes
[45:38] rebuttal from remote traitors.
[45:39] Thank you. MADAM Hearing
[45:43] examiner petition for public
[45:46] hearing his 2026 z o and 0, 4,
[45:48] 20, 3 North College Avenue
[45:49] Center Township Council
[45:55] District 13. My guest, I'm not
[45:56] sure should not have
[45:56] pronounced that right
[45:59] Investment llc by David
[46:02] Gillman requesting rezoning
[46:03] 0.1 1 acre from the da
[46:05] District to the mu to
[46:07] distribute to provide for a
[46:10] small mixed use development.
[46:11] Well, all those intended to
[46:13] testify on this petition this
[46:15] afternoon, either for or
[46:17] against, please stand out and
[46:18] raise your right hand to be
[46:20] sworn in. Anybody else. 3
[46:23] people. Okay. Thank you. Do
[46:25] you swear or affirm and the
[46:26] penalties of perjury to tell
[46:27] the truth and nothing but the
[46:33] to say I do. Thank you. In the
[46:34] petitioner MAY come forward,
[46:45] please. Good afternoon again
[46:46] for the record. My name is
[46:49] David Gillman. My address is
[46:49] 2, 1, 1, southward revenue
[46:53] Swede hb plus 4, 6, 2, 1, 9. I
[46:56] represent channel Ug. He is
[46:58] the owner of property at 2, 0,
[46:59] 0, 3, North College Avenue. A
[47:03] request today before you is to
[47:06] rezone a parcel from d 8 to
[47:07] him you to to allow us to
[47:10] permit a small mixed use
[47:12] building on a par. So of about
[47:13] 30 her from side, 4300 square
[47:15] feet. So I've given you a
[47:20] handout. And if you will go to
[47:24] tab one. What we want to
[47:26] demonstrate in the first tab
[47:29] is that this proposed
[47:30] rezoning. Is appropriate for
[47:32] this property for 3 primary
[47:36] reasons? One. It does bridge
[47:37] the commercial and residential
[47:40] areas. The lower level retail
[47:42] will provide neighborhood
[47:44] service activities while 2
[47:45] smaller upper-level apartments
[47:49] lessons the intensity. As the
[47:49] site transitions toward nearby
[47:53] single-family homes. The
[47:54] second one that matches the
[47:55] scale of the surrounding
[47:58] development. The building is
[47:59] significantly smaller than the
[48:03] commercial uses to our south,
[48:04] creating a gentle step down in
[48:06] height, traffic in intensity.
[48:07] Again, as you move towards the
[48:10] residential blocks. It reduces
[48:14] land, use conflicts. By
[48:15] combining a small-scale retail
[48:19] with low-impact residential.
[48:19] The building avoids a Brit
[48:23] jump. That would occur with
[48:24] either for commercial or for
[48:25] multi-family residential
[48:28] development along. What I mean
[48:28] by that is activity patterns
[48:31] would be different.
[48:32] Transitions better to a single
[48:35] family surrounding area and
[48:36] then it would generate less
[48:39] traffic. So if you go into the
[48:51] second tab. But tab will
[48:52] demonstrate is that we feel
[48:52] the rezoning is also
[48:55] appropriate for this area.
[48:56] It's compatible with parks and
[49:00] trails. Mixed use. Buildings
[49:01] are commonly placed near parks
[49:03] and trails because they
[49:05] support walkability
[49:06] small-scale retail and housing
[49:07] options without overwhelming
[49:09] area. Supports the Monon Trail
[49:13] corridor. Retail at the ground
[49:16] level compliments trail users
[49:18] with a small residential
[49:19] component that aligns with
[49:20] Te'o pattern of modest
[49:24] neighborhood scale housing.
[49:24] Winds with modern planning
[49:27] principles. As you know, mixed
[49:29] use. Developments are widely
[49:31] recognized as the best way to
[49:32] connect commercial corridors
[49:34] to residential neighborhoods.
[49:36] Improving walkability and
[49:39] safety. What I mean by
[49:40] improving safety. It
[49:42] encourages walking or biking
[49:45] more and driving less. And
[49:45] then it provides long-term
[49:49] corridor, stability. In this
[49:50] slide. You'll see an area that
[49:52] I've marked in yellow. To the
[49:54] West Central Avenue to the
[49:57] north 21st Street. To the east
[50:00] is the monon trail and to the
[50:04] south is 19th Street. In this
[50:06] yellow area. There's over 600
[50:08] plus residential structures.
[50:10] All of these within a one to 3
[50:13] minute bike ride. We're 5 to 7
[50:17] minute walk. The second slide
[50:21] in tab too. Excuse me. The
[50:25] available street parking. This
[50:26] aerial image highlights the
[50:27] immediate area around the site
[50:31] in shows several underutilized
[50:32] on-street parking spaces along
[50:36] College Avenue. Most of the
[50:38] surrounding homes have 2, 3,
[50:39] car garages that are accessed
[50:42] from alleys. And some with
[50:43] long driveways that even allow
[50:46] vehicles to stack for guests.
[50:48] As a result of these
[50:49] residents, in our opinion,
[50:49] rely very little on-street
[50:52] parking. In addition,
[50:54] residential parking activity
[50:56] normally occurs in the
[50:57] evenings. After nearby
[51:01] businesses have closed, which
[51:02] again, further reduces any
[51:03] overlap or conflict and
[51:11] parking demand. Tab slide
[51:15] shows the site plan
[51:16] highlighting the compact
[51:17] neighborhood scale. Lay out
[51:19] pedestrian-friendly design.
[51:20] You'll also see varied
[51:23] building setbacks along the
[51:24] frontage, which incorporated,
[51:26] which were incorporated. To
[51:28] create additional space for
[51:29] bike racks and comfortable
[51:34] walking areas. The next tab. 4
[51:38] has 6 slides. These renderings
[51:42] of the proposed development.
[51:44] In this slide shows the
[51:45] College Avenue frontage of the
[51:47] proposed mixed use building.
[51:49] With 2 small apartments on the
[51:52] second level in a neighborhood
[51:53] serving retell either space or
[51:55] spaces on the ground level. 4
[51:59] b. This slide shows a 20 year
[52:02] street side of the building
[52:04] with a design is more
[52:05] pedestrian, focused. You can
[52:06] see the bike racks, wider
[52:08] walkways and smaller outdoor
[52:10] area that create a comfortable
[52:11] space for people walking or
[52:11] biking through the
[52:15] neighborhood. This strategy is
[52:17] by design, skilled for local
[52:19] activity from the immediate
[52:20] neighborhood. The Monon Trail
[52:25] and mlk Park to our West.
[52:28] Slide 4 c is just another
[52:29] perspective of the 20th street
[52:37] frontage. White Ford e depicts
[52:40] another view facing college
[52:41] with the possibility for
[52:42] pedestrian friendly, small
[52:50] skilled bistro. Slide. For
[52:50] this slide provides a bird's
[52:54] eye view of the entire site.
[52:56] Showing the compact layout the
[52:57] varied setbacks that create
[52:58] space for bike racks and
[52:59] pedestrians and the overall
[53:01] circulation designed for small
[53:05] walkable, mixed use. Building.
[53:07] And then finally in tab for 4
[53:10] f the slide highlights a coin
[53:12] outdoor sitting area. It's
[53:13] small neighborhood scale
[53:13] spaces designed for daytime
[53:17] use. Capped with a 07:00pm
[53:18] curfew when the retailers
[53:23] close. This adds a pedestrian
[53:24] amenity to the site where
[53:25] remaining fairly respectful to
[53:31] the nearby homes. In our final
[53:37] 5th tab. In 5 a we have a
[53:38] neighborhood support email to
[53:42] Robert. We work closely and
[53:43] diligently with the Broadway
[53:46] Park Neighborhood Association.
[53:46] And there's a part reflects
[53:47] the commitments we agreed to
[53:49] in writing. These commitments
[53:53] were developed to ensure the
[53:54] project meets their
[53:55] expectations on uses traffic
[53:58] and overall compatibility. For
[54:03] 5 b. These are the 10
[54:04] commitments that we've agreed
[54:06] to with the neighborhood. I
[54:07] won't go through them in
[54:08] detail, but I will highlight
[54:13] them. They commit they have
[54:14] restricted uses. We did. We
[54:16] think we've committed just to
[54:16] the 7 out of all you to use is
[54:20] that would be possible. All of
[54:21] these are less intense uses
[54:21] and require the same amount of
[54:25] parking. Elevations and
[54:27] building materials. We
[54:29] committed to compliance with
[54:30] an elevation in standard set
[54:32] of materials to be used to
[54:34] ensure a more attractive
[54:36] building to attract equality.
[54:39] Potential users. We committed
[54:39] to the site plan that we
[54:42] filed. We committed that we
[54:44] would ask no parking variances
[54:48] as required by the ordinance.
[54:51] We've made outdoor activity
[54:53] restrictions as I mentioned,
[54:53] the curfew on the outdoor
[54:57] seating to 07:00pm. No
[54:58] drive-thru or drive-up service
[54:59] windows. No outdoor speakers
[55:00] fully show did ground
[55:05] lighting. And then finally we
[55:06] committed to fencing and
[55:06] landscaping to our north and
[55:11] east single-family properties.
[55:15] The final slide in tab 5. My
[55:16] client has been in direct
[55:18] contact with the District
[55:18] during the course of this
[55:21] entire project. Received 2
[55:24] separate email responses. And
[55:25] I want to briefly summarize
[55:29] his feedback for the record.
[55:30] And both messages. He was very
[55:32] favoring of the building's
[55:33] design and the way it fits
[55:34] into the existing neighborhood
[55:37] fabric. He specifically noted
[55:39] that the project strengthens
[55:41] the walkability along the
[55:43] corridor and supports the
[55:44] character, the surrounding
[55:47] homes and businesses. His
[55:47] comments were consistent
[55:51] across both emails. He sees
[55:52] this as they will skilled
[55:53] neighborhood appropriate,
[55:55] mixed use building. And he
[55:56] expressed clear support for
[55:59] the direction we were taking.
[56:00] We did request a formal letter
[56:01] last week, but not having been
[56:04] able to connect with him
[56:06] because of this busy budget
[56:07] hearing schedule that is
[56:12] occurring to right now. Those
[56:14] are our comments closer
[56:16] presentation. We would ask
[56:18] that you for this to the nbc
[56:19] with a favorable
[56:21] recommendation. But we're here
[56:22] to answer questions that you
[56:28] have for My client, thank And
[56:28] thank you, MR. Anyone else
[56:31] want to speak in support of
[56:34] this petition. Andrey much
[56:40] traitors. He could state your
[56:44] name and address, please. My
[56:46] name is Ali to 1957. North
[56:49] College Avenue. Indianapolis,
[56:58] Indiana, for 6, 2, 0, 2, in.
[56:59] Your you are here in
[57:03] opposition. Is that right?
[57:05] Yes, and I for the record, I'm
[57:08] not trying to say I'm in total
[57:08] opposition developed, but I'm
[57:09] all for responsible
[57:12] development and I have
[57:13] communicated with both of them
[57:16] regarding the traffic 20th
[57:19] Street is very narrow. It's
[57:21] difficult to see already out
[57:24] on college. And so adding to
[57:26] businesses as well as to
[57:29] residential dwellings. It's
[57:32] going to definitely increase
[57:35] the traffic. It's already more
[57:36] so stressed. And so my
[57:37] question is, what can be done
[57:39] about their prior to doing it?
[57:43] I have to look out for. I'm I
[57:44] have a business there. I own
[57:45] the building and also have
[57:46] other tenants there. So
[57:49] there's 3 other tenants in the
[57:51] business in the building. They
[57:53] face College Avenue. My
[57:55] business faces 20th Street. We
[57:55] also have a parking lot. But
[57:56] then there's the street
[58:00] parking. So there's. Been a
[58:01] lot of accidents at that
[58:02] intersection. And we've even
[58:05] had and at a mobile hit our
[58:07] building. So I'm very
[58:10] concerned about the traffic
[58:11] him out. They MAY say that,
[58:11] you know, it's they're
[58:14] designing it so that people
[58:17] can bike rei the Monon trail.
[58:18] It sits on college as people
[58:19] drive past college is a busy
[58:24] street. People will stop. And
[58:29] that will calls for cars in.
[58:29] He sees it is parking is
[58:32] underutilized on the street.
[58:33] But that snapshot showed a
[58:36] moment in time. I've been
[58:43] there for 17 years. Just so I
[58:46] just I feel like that. Well,
[58:47] I'm not 100% against it. I
[58:48] don't feel like we're at a
[58:52] point where everything has
[58:52] been resolved to move forward
[58:59] at this time. And if I just
[59:02] ask you so you have the
[59:03] building at the southeast
[59:04] corner of 20th in college. Is
[59:06] that right? Quite and time
[59:08] looking at the picture here,
[59:11] looks like you have parking.
[59:13] And behind your building or to
[59:14] the east is arrives at your
[59:19] parking or is ok and is your
[59:20] your access than is on 20th
[59:23] Street current, a quiet. And
[59:27] you said you've been there 17
[59:28] years, correct? We've owned
[59:31] the building about 25 years,
[59:33] so And I've lived there for
[59:34] about 17 in my business has
[59:35] been there for about 6 years.
[59:40] Okay. That's fantastic. And I
[59:44] am glad to hear that you have
[59:44] been speaking with the
[59:51] petitioner in MISTER Gilman.
[59:54] Do you have I? The years on
[59:57] what you think you what you
[1:00:01] think needs to be done. So one
[1:00:05] thing I asked them about was
[1:00:05] if they could have a parking
[1:00:06] lot where they would, you
[1:00:08] know, to help with some off
[1:00:10] street parking something
[1:00:11] prevent that. The other thing
[1:00:14] is. And I don't know how
[1:00:17] possible this would be. But
[1:00:17] adding more traffic to that
[1:00:21] intersection. And it wouldn't
[1:00:25] be on them. But a stoplight it
[1:00:27] will reduce the speeding going
[1:00:29] down college as well as reduce
[1:00:30] the number of accidents that
[1:00:32] are at that intersection.
[1:00:37] Outside of that. I don't have
[1:00:38] anything right off top of my
[1:00:39] head. I am open to discussing
[1:00:40] to try and find, you know, a
[1:00:45] resolution for it. But those
[1:00:45] were a couple of things that I
[1:00:47] its top my mind in that I had
[1:00:50] a couple of questions as well.
[1:00:52] Because I understand there's
[1:00:53] no dedicated on the drawing.
[1:00:56] He had 6 parking spaces. But
[1:00:58] those are not dedicated to.
[1:01:05] The business. Is that correct?
[1:01:07] To me, it looks like it's
[1:01:10] parking on 20th Street. So,
[1:01:11] you know, in light of public
[1:01:13] right away. So which would be
[1:01:16] open to anyone? Yes, okay. And
[1:01:21] then the other was the
[1:01:21] Broadway Neighborhood
[1:01:22] Association. Their support
[1:01:26] from that. But we are actually
[1:01:27] Kennedy King and I don't see
[1:01:28] anything that's come from
[1:01:32] Kennedy King. And I will let
[1:01:33] MISTER Dylan speak to that
[1:01:34] rebuttal. Like I don't know.
[1:01:40] Okay. I think you mentioned
[1:01:44] the possibility of a stoplight
[1:01:44] stoplight. And and you
[1:01:45] probably know that something
[1:01:47] that that has to go through
[1:01:48] the city and has to be
[1:01:50] warranted and all that. Have
[1:01:51] you spoken with counselor
[1:01:52] Brown about your idea about
[1:01:57] stuff like there? You might
[1:01:57] want to if you've ever spoken
[1:01:58] with him, but you might want
[1:02:00] to just ask him this if he
[1:02:07] might be willing to. You know,
[1:02:08] to to talk to the city about
[1:02:09] whether that's even a
[1:02:13] possibility. Do you have any
[1:02:19] other comments today? No, just
[1:02:20] really want to what we can
[1:02:22] figure out in if it needs to,
[1:02:24] you know, I understand they're
[1:02:25] saying it is a smaller scale,
[1:02:29] but they're still 2 businesses
[1:02:30] to residential dwellings and
[1:02:31] employees will need to park
[1:02:35] there the residents who own
[1:02:37] the property when they have
[1:02:39] guests. I don't. I just feel
[1:02:40] like everything is not been
[1:02:40] truly taken into
[1:02:42] consideration. As far as the
[1:02:44] impact. Once the building is
[1:02:45] up and the businesses are
[1:02:46] running and people are living
[1:02:49] there as well. Thank you.
[1:02:52] Appreciate your comments.
[1:02:55] Anyone else want to speak in
[1:02:56] opposition to 2026? E '01, 0,
[1:02:59] 4, 5, And Robert Staff
[1:03:06] comments. Please. Thank The
[1:03:07] site is an undeveloped parcel.
[1:03:13] It is on the far In the 80's
[1:03:13] skews me and the request as a
[1:03:14] result of the mu to to allow
[1:03:18] for mixed use. This proposed
[1:03:19] by the petitioner. They're
[1:03:20] being, I believe, to
[1:03:21] apartments on the second floor
[1:03:22] and commercial retail on the
[1:03:24] ground floor. The
[1:03:25] comprehensive plan does
[1:03:28] recommend traditional
[1:03:28] neighborhood for the site
[1:03:29] traditional neighborhood does
[1:03:33] allow for residential uses.
[1:03:35] Also allows for small-scale
[1:03:35] offices and small-scale
[1:03:36] retailing, which I believe
[1:03:38] would be similar. What the
[1:03:38] petitioner proposes on the
[1:03:45] ground floor. The petitioners,
[1:03:45] site plan indicates curbside
[1:03:48] parking as opposed onsite
[1:03:51] parking. The site is less than
[1:03:52] 5,000 Square feet. So there's
[1:03:53] exception in the ordinance
[1:03:54] that on site parking is not
[1:03:56] required for any commercial
[1:03:56] lot. That is smaller than
[1:04:05] 5,000 Square feet. The staff
[1:04:07] to receive communication from
[1:04:08] the Broadway neighborhood who
[1:04:08] was on the request of the
[1:04:12] commitments. And their
[1:04:13] boundary is college. So they
[1:04:13] primarily represent the west
[1:04:18] side of college. To the King
[1:04:19] neighborhood, represents the
[1:04:20] east side of college. But
[1:04:20] however, staff received no
[1:04:25] communication from them. Staff
[1:04:26] does recommended this approval
[1:04:28] for request as a feels it
[1:04:32] would be inappropriate. Infill
[1:04:35] development the there is a bus
[1:04:37] line up on the site and that
[1:04:39] could help accommodate any
[1:04:40] need for the lack of parking
[1:04:42] for Jays per the adjacent
[1:04:47] commercial as well. It is not
[1:04:48] a to the bus line. It is a
[1:04:49] regular college Avenue best
[1:04:54] lawn. With that staff is
[1:04:55] recommending approval to have
[1:04:55] to answer any questions you
[1:05:09] MAY have.
[1:05:18] Thank you, Robert
[1:05:19] she just to verify you said
[1:05:21] that Kennedy King did not
[1:05:23] reach out. Right? Correct? I
[1:05:24] have no communication from
[1:05:30] them. Cake did we did you
[1:05:33] receive phone calls? Emails,
[1:05:34] ledger, others from anyone
[1:05:39] either for or against I
[1:05:40] received a communication from
[1:05:43] the Broadway neighborhood. At
[1:05:43] first requested the original
[1:05:48] automatic continuance. And
[1:05:50] then earlier this week, I
[1:05:51] believe on Monday I received
[1:05:52] that they were in support of
[1:05:53] its subject to the commitments
[1:05:58] that they filed. I did. It did
[1:05:59] indicate to them that either
[1:05:59] them or the petitioner would
[1:06:01] need to read those commitments
[1:06:02] into the final since staff
[1:06:02] will stop part of the
[1:06:04] negotiation, which the
[1:06:06] petitioner excuse me, which
[1:06:07] the petitioner has in his
[1:06:09] exhibit as well. Those are the
[1:06:09] same ones that were submitted
[1:06:14] to me by email. But other than
[1:06:18] that I didn't meet the remote
[1:06:19] straighter on site during my
[1:06:20] site visit. And there had a
[1:06:23] discussion at that point where
[1:06:25] there was indication parking
[1:06:27] be in difficult are ready
[1:06:29] beyond that. No other e-mails
[1:06:30] or communication. Okay. All
[1:06:36] right. Thank you. So MR. Given
[1:06:46] you 5 minutes for rebuttal. If
[1:06:50] you could go to, I tend to
[1:06:55] slide to be. And leita and I
[1:06:57] have talked on a number of
[1:06:58] occasions. We've exchanged
[1:07:00] e-mails. My client being a
[1:07:03] business owner next to her is
[1:07:03] committed to continuing a
[1:07:08] relationship. But you asked
[1:07:09] question, what could sum what
[1:07:12] could be done 2 to possibly
[1:07:16] make traffic concern better.
[1:07:17] If you look on my tab to be
[1:07:18] you see a black line that goes
[1:07:22] across 20th Street. Everything
[1:07:24] on the west side of that line
[1:07:25] has a no parking posted on
[1:07:28] both sites. When we were out
[1:07:29] there talking to Lee that we
[1:07:32] would see people pull up and
[1:07:34] park and that no parking area
[1:07:35] run inside. Get something come
[1:07:37] back out and take off. The
[1:07:40] other thing we notice is
[1:07:41] delivery people are pulling
[1:07:43] right up on 20th Street and
[1:07:44] getting out taking in their
[1:07:50] deliveries or there. Male were
[1:07:52] whatever it needs to be done.
[1:07:53] And they're using 20th Street
[1:07:55] as a place to park right in in
[1:07:55] and take care of what they
[1:07:59] need to. And not respecting
[1:08:01] the 20th Street. And those are
[1:08:02] actually parking spaces and
[1:08:06] not for loading and unloading.
[1:08:06] We think of both business
[1:08:07] owners on either side of
[1:08:10] college. Would-be business
[1:08:14] stewards. Talk to their
[1:08:16] customers and their managers.
[1:08:20] To avoid deliveries. Being
[1:08:21] dropped off on 20th Street in
[1:08:23] the required parking spaces.
[1:08:25] To respect a no parking areas
[1:08:26] on 20th Street in college to
[1:08:29] the South. That would a good
[1:08:32] start. If you see the light
[1:08:34] blue box that I've labeled on
[1:08:39] college. That's where the no
[1:08:40] parking ends. But of a car
[1:08:43] vehicle was parked there. It
[1:08:44] literally blocks the
[1:08:45] visibility of vehicles
[1:08:46] traveling northbound on
[1:08:48] college. That lane is closest
[1:08:50] to you. So as you approach
[1:08:51] college and wanting to make a
[1:08:53] left or right. If that area is
[1:08:57] blocked and then that creates
[1:08:57] and then favorable condition
[1:09:00] for the site distance. So when
[1:09:03] my closing arguments, we did
[1:09:05] work closely with the
[1:09:06] neighborhood Association. We
[1:09:10] did not have contact with. The
[1:09:11] committee after we sent out
[1:09:17] notices. But we did receive
[1:09:18] obviously comments and
[1:09:19] requests to negotiate with.
[1:09:23] Broadway Park. Our District
[1:09:25] Councilor sent 2 separate
[1:09:26] emails expressing real
[1:09:27] enthusiasm for the project in
[1:09:28] for the walkability
[1:09:31] neighborhood skilled design.
[1:09:32] We have met directly with
[1:09:33] every month straighter. We
[1:09:34] agree here at the hearing to
[1:09:37] keep communications open. We
[1:09:39] think are small. So mixed use
[1:09:40] plan helps address the
[1:09:42] intersection concerns she
[1:09:44] raised as opposed to a full
[1:09:45] commercial or for multifamily
[1:09:49] development. We think these
[1:09:51] traffic concerns that existed
[1:09:52] 20th in college are largely
[1:09:54] preexisting conditions
[1:09:55] inherently created by a much
[1:09:57] larger, more intense c 3 put
[1:09:57] print at that southeast
[1:10:01] corner. We think this project
[1:10:06] strength strengthens safety
[1:10:06] improves walkability and
[1:10:07] reduces lane just conflict
[1:10:08] through its limited impact
[1:10:08] uses and pedestrian focus.
[1:10:12] Design. This is a modest,
[1:10:13] awful, mixed use, zoning and
[1:10:16] building shape with
[1:10:17] neighborhood collaboration.
[1:10:18] And we respectfully your
[1:10:19] approval recommendation to the
[1:10:25] mdc. Request to possibly do
[1:10:26] surface parking my
[1:10:26] understanding a surface
[1:10:30] parking is prohibited. Even if
[1:10:31] we were to try to do surface
[1:10:33] parking through a variance,
[1:10:34] what spaces we would getting
[1:10:38] on site would be lost because
[1:10:39] of our access approach on 20th
[1:10:40] Street would eliminate street
[1:10:44] parking space. So really
[1:10:46] didn't think there would be
[1:10:46] any any to go in that
[1:10:49] direction. Again, a step
[1:10:51] mentioned there's no required
[1:10:52] parking for Parcells this mall
[1:10:57] for that very reason. We will
[1:10:58] certainly continue our
[1:10:59] relationship with the lead and
[1:11:01] her business managers and
[1:11:03] tenants and to make sure that
[1:11:03] we both do everything we can
[1:11:06] to try to monitor the activity
[1:11:09] out on 20th Street again. With
[1:11:10] respect to deliveries and
[1:11:23] customers. Thank you. Ms
[1:11:24] Osborne, you have 5 minutes
[1:11:33] rebuttal. Please. One thing I
[1:11:34] like to say when I first
[1:11:36] started my business there as
[1:11:38] well. I looked at the effect
[1:11:39] of we're very close to the
[1:11:42] Monon trail. And it would draw
[1:11:43] in a lot of business from
[1:11:46] there. Most people are not
[1:11:47] leaving off of the trail.
[1:11:50] They're continuing on and you
[1:11:50] get more from the traffic on
[1:11:53] college. Because they drive
[1:11:55] by. They see they see the
[1:11:57] signs. They go back and forth
[1:11:59] we were standing out there
[1:12:04] that day people did pull up
[1:12:04] right to the on there at 20th
[1:12:08] Street. But one guy he was not
[1:12:08] just the look like he was
[1:12:09] going to stay right in that
[1:12:10] area where you're not supposed
[1:12:12] to. But he did pull up
[1:12:15] delivery drivers to come. The
[1:12:17] postal, guy comes in parks and
[1:12:23] he walks alone. But again. As
[1:12:24] is stated, it splits open for
[1:12:29] parking for anyone. It's still
[1:12:32] going to. Increased congestion
[1:12:37] in that area. I just still
[1:12:37] stand on the whole safety
[1:12:39] aspect of it. It's not doing
[1:12:41] anything to improve it. And
[1:12:44] I'm not saying that that's
[1:12:46] their fault. He owns the
[1:12:47] property in, you know, is want
[1:12:49] to put something there. It
[1:12:50] could be beneficial for
[1:12:54] everyone in the area. It but
[1:12:55] the safety issue is just not
[1:12:58] being addressed. And I feel
[1:12:59] like that's more important
[1:13:13] than anything.
[1:13:14] Okay. Thank
[1:13:29] you.
[1:13:34] I appreciate comments and
[1:13:35] again, I appreciate the fact
[1:13:39] that you have been talking
[1:13:39] with each other and I I would
[1:13:41] encourage you to continue to
[1:13:45] do that. I'm not sure I I know
[1:13:50] that. The Broadway Park
[1:13:52] Neighborhood Association is
[1:13:56] they have Taking a position a
[1:13:57] number of petitions in this
[1:13:58] area. I know they're they're
[1:14:01] pretty active. In public
[1:14:07] hearings. I I don't know if.
[1:14:08] Candy King has the same level
[1:14:12] of involvement. But I did note
[1:14:14] that that they were sent a
[1:14:16] legal notice of this hearing.
[1:14:24] So they were made aware of it.
[1:14:24] This is in my opinion. This is
[1:14:30] a unique site not only because
[1:14:34] of its small size, but because
[1:14:36] fact there's development
[1:14:37] around it. And so there are a
[1:14:39] lot of restrictions on what
[1:14:41] could action actually be
[1:14:45] developed on the site. And and
[1:14:48] I don't know this for us
[1:14:50] sacked, but my guess is trying
[1:14:54] to develop the site for. Under
[1:14:56] the current da toning would
[1:14:58] would probably cause a lot
[1:15:02] Issues as far as meeting those
[1:15:03] standards. So I do feel like
[1:15:09] this is unique site. In my
[1:15:12] opinion, the propose mixed use
[1:15:16] development. Does conform with
[1:15:17] the comp plan. Recommendation
[1:15:21] is, as Robert explained,
[1:15:22] traditional neighborhood
[1:15:22] development which certainly
[1:15:27] can include a mixed use
[1:15:28] development. I also agree
[1:15:34] that. The scale is
[1:15:35] appropriate. Don't feel like
[1:15:40] the proposed. The use or
[1:15:44] building is going to overwhelm
[1:15:50] or overpower the site. I'm it
[1:15:51] to me. It sounds like I have
[1:15:53] certainly gone up and down
[1:15:55] college countless times in.
[1:15:55] And I know what you're saying
[1:16:00] about traffic. Again, in my
[1:16:08] opinion, I feel like. Any
[1:16:08] traffic issue is already
[1:16:11] there. I I don't think that
[1:16:12] this particular proposal is
[1:16:17] going to. Exacerbate that. So
[1:16:19] for those reasons, I am going
[1:16:21] to recommend approval of 2026.
[1:16:25] Zia when 0 for 5 that would be
[1:16:26] placed on the docket of the
[1:16:26] Metropolitan Development
[1:16:28] Commission on SEPTEMBER. 16th.
[1:16:29] And again, I think you all for
[1:16:34] coming down this afternoon.
[1:16:35] Judy, with their
[1:16:35] recommendation will be subject
[1:16:38] to the commitments. I am so
[1:16:39] sorry, Robert. Yes, that would
[1:16:41] be subject to the 10.
[1:16:42] Commitments. I think that's
[1:16:50] right. Requested by. Bradley
[1:16:51] Park Neighborhood Association.
[1:16:52] Yes, thank you. Thank you very
[1:16:58] much. Thank you. Do we have
[1:16:58] any other business before us
[1:17:16] today? We are adjourned.