there. My own
>> I didn't mean mold me.
Start for AUGUST. 28.
>> For storm is is is minutes
from last month. I make a
motion that said last month, a
second, moon second say Aye.
Guess the ayes have it. We
have one guest. She doing
adoptions I'm to hear sons. Jo
Conner, the county assessor,
the non voting member.
>> And the secretary of the
board.
>> You need to come our Office
of Corporation counsel. Great
right now, board member.
>> Cathy Gould Board member.
>> Steve has a PRESIDENT.
Brian Barton board member.
Sends an rn. Yes, okay. You're
a stand-up. Raise your right
house for u n. We sort of
talked coach Wooden and but
truth so help you GOD. So this
is on Homestead.
>> Yes, believe that's
correct. Coming Yes, and give
the parcel member and I can
tell you what, Page. Is on the
science sheet.
>> It's one said, I'm sorry.
Yes.
>> Yes, 1, 0, 4, 8, 7, 9, 2,
is on page one. 63 of your
agenda.
And this is the homes
that Ascension. You want to
state your name and
>> so what's going on? Certain
and I'm sure there's a
microphone hanging right
there. Want to stand. You
know, my stand right there.
And I reside at 909, South
East Street.
>> a reason for. My presence
years. That's it. Reside at 9.
So the street. The homestead
exemption for the property
was. Seemingly removed for the
tax year. Table 2026. 2025.
I'm here because I would like
to appeal. Removal of the
homestead exemption due to
never say. And I can provide
context now are you can ask
questions. Not familiar with
your process.
>> Calling you want to?
>> State your name colleague,
County Auditor's Office. Mean,
when from? Real tlc? To
individual names 2024, that's
one of the very specific
situations for that. The Nbn
Co says that you have reapply
for Homestead deduction
because those are separate
legal entities completely. You
know, that's not something
that we actively all. That
transfer as part of the
assessment process. That
production comes off. So
statute regarding very clear
and it's very cannot apply
retroactively.
>> argument is that? My
research not been able to find
specifically where Dundee in a
covid that stated. And if you
will, the miners initiate an
appeal one 30? Provide
everything in the reasoning. I
had a preference.
>> The resources of the
sources. Specifically parts of
the unit and Unicode and then
also for the areas that uses
so stay 0. 5, 4, 7, 3, At the
time. From my review had
admitted any relevant
reference that changed
entitled to the same honor.
Disqualified eligibility. I
was not able to find any
memorialized evidence of that
actually. Part of the Indiana
code and the only thing that I
found was a footnote. On the
website which that form is
located, which said The change
in title to property MAY
disqualify. It for Homestead
deduction or require the
deduction to be refiled. In my
opinion, it reasonable
guidance. In addition to that.
You don't have a recollection
of receiving formal Guess what
I'm asking for is. Evidence
that. There was written.
Guidance Eligibility is remove
there is administrative change
title.
>> I think part of it is a
case of the same owner. But
Pelosi and individual are very
separate legal owners. In
fact, the actual individuals.
>> We say what I'm asking the
county to consider that it was
ministry to change. There was
no sale. Remain. The again
from the information that had
been provided me. Was nowhere
that I find it right. And
that. Eligibility is
disqualified for a change in
title. Like
>> But also I know we we spoke
on the I provided you at home.
When you first call, you
reference.
>> You reference that it was
in the nba and you I wasn't
able to find specifically
where. Build the requirement.
And what it. I guess,
supporting evidence that. I
must first.
>> You didn't see on the Web
site where it said it MAY
qualified be done. Give us a
cause. However, well, I did.
That's why we spoke for Before
did so you're acknowledging
that.
>> a statement that I put it
on the heel. It is the only
reading the information.
Acknowledging that the only
thing I could find. A
footnote. Subsequently seeing
weight and change right checks
morning. But at the time 54
73. Any relative reference a
change in title to the same
honor, disqualified
eligibility? After further
research. That clause was
shown in a footnote on the Web
saver. That form is found.
That said that the change in
use, we're told to a property
MAY underline disqualify it
may is not a certainty. And so
that in I interpret that to
mean that. It is up to the
discretion of the county. I'm
asking for question. Because I
have resided at the home.
Nothing has changed outside of
estate planning. What to a
change in title from
administrative perspective.
Taxpayer. You know that it's
justified that. You all
consider. Allowing me to
reapply the Homestead
deduction, too. The 2025 tax
year. Based on information
that. Was available to me the
time.
>> You know, from our
standpoint, Eg realty transfer
individual. There's no way we
know. And these are the see
people.
>> They're the auditor's
office. One is not where
transfers. And don't get a
notification from someone
files and the only way that
really aware that somehow home
said. And be applied they come
for office Cala speechless.
Yes, after a lot of things
send them over and might want
check with the auditor of
filing sort of deductions. In
general. I don't have any idea
what operations for on a daily
basis. So my office to know
this is the same person that
was part of l c these are the
specific carve-out, Indiana Co
it's safe. The owner has 3 a I
there's only a one-year carry
over. We four-year state on 25
that come fall. So did not
Asian. Think we said this. Can
be active. So 3 there, I think
these people are not, but
they're playing at that
option.
>> MR. Could maybe provide
some context. Is. What was the
deeds purpose? Was it? You
mentioned estate planning. So
you've always lived in Are you
want hot new on title? And
title.
>> I was a member of the
entity that previously had
title to that to the And the
reason for the change is that.
My parents. Head on other
assets. That interview was
affiliated with those assets
it was under the guidance of
my attorney that I MAY. Want
to. Ugg Realty had on other
assets of which. Other family
members of mine were going to
be living in and they. We're
considering recording those as
their primary residences and
considering applying for the
homestead exemption as well.
And we wanted to Queen. So
that we would be in
qualification that in
compliance with any homestead
tax exemption. Guidelines and
it was under the guidance of
our attorney that we we as the
children of my parents who
were the main shareholders of
the original entity title 2,
909. So the street. And other
assets that other. So once
vine led the now currently
live in. We separate them.
More. I guess.
>> So, know, it was a
Homestead application in
you're.
>> Its name or if it was in my
name and I was approved in
2022.
>> And my my argument is that
I remain in compliance. With
ability requirements. I didn't
have guidance from my attorney
to reapply. Otherwise I would
have.
>> Engine real tv is an oc,
but the nc the title was
transferred to what was once
an oc. It's just. 3
individuals which I'm one of.
>> Right now, it's just
they've gotten. And for it
coming up.
>> you need to click on
because it's abbreviated
version of the actual title on
Monday. The Deegan from me.
>> That's what I'm just asking
them to double check. Because
right now have. Yeah, that
right now for owners, that's
all we've got, which looked
into double checks because
your system abbreviate, not
welcome. Morning. Now I
understand I'm not saying not
I'm just asking them to double
check their system to make
sure it's correct on their
side. Got Okay.
>> So I think that has the
perfect reason is again, one
is e what's the story for
reference. But 2, just what he
was talking about, the Elysee
having multiple members.
Multiple members might be
playing home, said on
different properties, which is
why Elsa's are so hard for us
to. Because there could be 8
members of the Al see, I don't
know who's living Which is,
again, a reason that the state
is so strict on. We don't have
any idea. You 6 properties and
their 6 family members never
be Sat on front lines. We
react patients and they're
starting come out about people
in tracks. Because we would be
would have any idea is a
member if have always had
access to So that additional
information we have that
coming
>> So elsie's can fall from
spent.
>> They be approved. A
individuals, 9.
>> Applications self has being
individuals. And if change
whenever something strange,
absolutely no way for us to
correct Tonioli track. That's
not information that we
district here at the county. A
question. Abort. MR. CHAIRMAN.
Yes.
>> want words your mouth, but
you used the word. MAY tell me
that again about that. You
said MAY do what?
>> If look for your dressing
me or hurt. Believe, but want
cancer.
>> Yeah. So he he record.
Seemed like our Web site where
we've got a little note on
their right now. You have
>> Now I do. But I know it.
The Web site and actually for
the Homestead Act, publication
has changed since I made this
appeal and we spoke. Outside
of just I don't know how to
reference historical suit.
>> I think my question is
where you're referencing yet.
You MAY remove it. No
>> so we we don't even. Think
we moved that actually handle
by the assessor's office when
transfers. Well, we have what
we have on the website was
that if you're making a change
in how it all? It MAY that
your deductions you need to
reach out to us to find out
because there are certain
situations. Let's say we have
a to you know, a husband and
wife. Why passes away? In that
situation? That's not
situation.
>> My comment is that if we're
being reasonable. I wouldn't
be on that page on our
website. My side otherwise
would have known to look
there. That I didn't know why.
That was PRESIDENT. To
reapply. Windy on the state
website looking at forms for
homes, application unless
otherwise was prompted to.
>> So it should be noted the
Indiana law states.
>> That's
>> there is a change in
eligibility. The Homestead
must be reapplied interchange,
an owner and the ownership is
specifically change.
>> That requires a reply of
the home said issue. That's
straight from the Indiana Co
Seductions.
>> Can can you tell me what?
>> and not 6, that it's any
had 6 dash. 1.1, that's 12
dash. 37. So.
>> And MISS And MISS You at
night. Don't MISS A disagree
with that. I just think. There
was an llc which she's a
member of was in his name. And
it's really close.
>> But that also you let's
remember, bells not in his
name.
>> So no evidence. It said me
the corporations personally
get it. But but he's a part of
that corporation. It's just
and how much money are Looking
at here? On the last of
action.
>> Well, this
>> 2024 his taxes were 9,000
for the year with the homes
deduction. That was yeah. That
was with the homes that.
Without the Homestead. They
double.
>> Can can you please state
figure?
>> It is for the year 19,000
8.56 And that includes storm
solid waste fees as did the
9,000 from the previous year.
>> And I'd also like to say
that the state is very clear
that the burden that following
the homeowner, if you are
making changes as a homeowner,
you're supposed to be aware of
what you do and we try to past
obviously in the U.S. But now
that we're down to the
assessor, I know their staff
is a really great about say,
hey, go beyond office right
now, they're making a change.
So you can check on the
deductions. I don't know how
do this out of this hot,
in-person or by mail you know,
for him. I feel pain. The
tourney for legal advice.
Might be. To double check What
are passionate home. Do a
professional service. But had
no idea to notify 3 of 5.
>> I will state because I know
it was stated that he didn't
receive a form. 11 former 11
would not tell him if he had a
homestead deduction on his
property or not just to the
board is aware that formal
evidence, just a notice of
assessment does not talk about
deductions or anything else,
but so that when not of
>> and what showed me that my
taxes to fund the.
>> It's a it just shows are
assessed value. So it tell you
anything about if you had a
homestead deduction or not.
And unfortunately, that's not
it required on the form 11.
>> So and is it is not easy.
In ordinary person. 2. When
something like this would be
triggered unless you're
looking for. Which I did and I
couldn't find reasonable
evidence that. There was
military requirement. To
refile.
>> Did did you for me and I
guess didn't look for him
because I would not have known
otherwise. This what I'm
trying to articulate, I think
>> they are ready for motions.
Almost like a motion.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I make a
motion that we accept as I
just can't imagine. I
understand all the arguments
but to double its taxes. That
just does not seem. For this
board member. Second. Been
moved second and first
session. Seeing none all in
favor say Aye. Aye against. I
So 2 to tie foe. Was your next
month. 23 1 It will not be
there next month. Just so the
board where probably still for
people. Yeah, we'll still have
for that. Want too much you
want 5 members.
>> that's why I'm bringing in
now
>> And
>> how Just saying that next
month they're still going in
before board members here. So
it would But have come back
again. So would you be willing
we pushed back 2 months to
make sure that we have 5
members? Are just want go? And
we just I mean, it's your time
sided with wasted if we don't.
You know over, but still a
month before the taxable
sales. Let's hopefully of
time. Think we can get for
SEPTEMBER.
>> I'm happy to come and
provide my return asked again
for consideration.
>> As well, think that will
limit just have most
competent. For now. That set
up a the next month.
>> We need again the next
meeting with the SEPTEMBER
25th. That works for you.
>> Only it were part what the
one thing I would like to walk
away with here is the you
brought a specific provision
and Indiana code. Can you
provide me a resource to
actually access that? In
addition. You got on and when
I can see it if and when the
code was amended so I can
reference the application.
We're Hill. So they can see if
it was amended from then to
now. What was amended.
>> Colleen so. And I tell you
a But I just.
>> I want to go on record that
I ask you for that months ago.
And you just directed me to.
>> Well, but I actually gave
you the co. The covid guidance
on where to find that. And
then subsequently I research
and I provided. My findings in
the appeal which every state I
I want to go on record that
the website has been updated.
And form 5, 4, 7, 3, also been
updated to include specific.
Commentary. Relative to my
case, specifically that if
there is a change title. But
it's no showing that. 54 73.
For some That's also pill
form. Yes, there's not there's
no need to to that form that
discloses ineligibility.
Reference for change the
title. So what I'm looking for
is reference on where can find
when if there is such when
that was changed. Because I
think that that would be in
for a reference next time.
>> I think that's something he
would have talked to the state
of Indiana. Good luck with And
finance is a does those forms
for us? Their website has
control money of information
there. That's also weakened on
the state's website. Access in
code and everything else.
>> And as
>> Okay. Here we go Thank you.
Thank you, When are general
come in AUGUST United? For
>> the workers, I guess just
go on until what You start and
all check with her.
>> one through 20.
One parcel
1, 0, 6, 7, 2, 8, 1, only ones
with joy harvest.
>> Yes.
>> And we were moved their air
conditioning on that as well.
>> Then you sign in.
>> sign is that you know,
table, you remember the time
help them out. With that.
Apart from the virus, we'll
see. It's is it one listened.
Okay. So then. What's a
personal friend? Or 2? Well,
90. I was there to 12, 90.
There's not open appeal on
file on this. There's a 2024,
but it was final. JULY 24th of
2026 and went to the people.
So he's got notes here that he
was. So I'm here today to ask
for.
>> Because language barrier.
>> He is one that called he
said that he would need a
translator. I told him to
check that. You see.
>> That's the one we said. We
didn't know the translate.
What? Translator we would
need. So.
>> Okay. Language need it?
Yes.
>> So that's for peace.
Burmese. Okay. So we can get
one for next month's.
>> Well, it will or
>> first, I guess they have to
reopen right? Well, but it's
it's closing. Still have open
that back up for them, too, to
do that. That's why I'm
bringing so that it can then
she can work with
>> But isn't on the agenda.
It's not on the agenda. So
those are on Well, we That's
right. You know. Even though
it's not listed as other
business, we could still. It's
being brought other business.
Now. That's not how it All
right. Put on next month Rio
to reopen difference to work
do they understand that? If
you We'll just put it on for
next.
Back to Page Did I
answer that? When MR. On your
bill. Tomorrow. Far just
better Joyce. Look at the
photos because it could be
that. So a lot of apartment
complexes. First floor can be.
Person again. 6, 7, 2, 8, 1,
We changed all the way, So the
photos. So that is what choice
on that second building. Bill.
So, yes, it was entered
correctly. And then we are
going out. Applying this is
from 2017. This is why. We
like so this is the buildings
are going up. So if someone
does come back saying where
also fact 2017, Isabella,
2017, and they just aren't.
And then we determined double
a c.
led on one, Want it went.
We'll make a motion pay one
through 27.
>> Spend second for
discussion. Seeing none offers
say I I I guess you guys have
it.
28 one. 62.
One 43. Arson 104,
9, 1, 7, 3, assessment 0.
>> This is a residential so
Nats Park in cannot be
improved. 1, 0, 4, 9, 9, 1, 7,
3,
>> When a shift to be
assessment center.
>> I mean, it's not a city
Parker, right?
>> Went online and vigil. 1000
are 14.0 43.
>> that neighborhood park for
kids play?
>> I'll have to get with them
and to find out what happened
there. Table.
>> consider
>> It is not in a floodplain.
Well close, but it's not
properties on pk. One is on
the belt, but
>> assessment, honor. I It's
not only the city.
>> filings tending to donate.
>> I mean, technically, yes,
it is the way that the zoning
line goes.
>> d 8 stops here and that's
he came on over there.
>> Once online different
things, right. But the issue
police tax honor. So go ahead
again.
Ac sharing. Talk to
>> One 13. Parcel 1, 1, 1, 6,
4, 7, There's no real reason
why change or from. About
700,000. And 21 or
Pennsylvania.
>> Gabriel. We're getting off
because a vacancy.
>> Apartment building. It's
not an apartment building.
Still up. That doesn't bacon.
Am I putting in the right
personal 1, 1, 1, 6, 4, 7,
This doesn't look vacant. As
of 3. 24 26. Now this is a 24
appeal. You know, 25 I mean,
their cars there.
>> Let's let's table one,
please. And we'll get more
information.
>> 16. Parcel one of 3, 8, 9,
9, 2, The hotel. Mary, out
there on Morrison Street, yes.
Says based on or sales.
Assessed based on sales and
come on.
>> Hotels?
>> We can ease.
>> One the 3 approaches to it.
>> ones.
>> This was one that we came
to an agreement gave. If you
remember. One where we it was.
Sales that did the income. Got
agreement that we thought was
reasonable with the taxpayer.
>> That's the 2020? The 24 if
I went with 67 million rate.
>> We got them to a draw 20
3.24 And we agreed to every
direction for 20. 25 26.
>> And 26 for 60 Million. So
one down it was 76 Million.
And we dropped it to 67 for
26.
Page. 1.2 7, 2, 1, 4, 5,
at a questions for dated
building design.
>> That's a new one for too.
What's the at the Dayton
building? Design. Why are we
caring something or?
>> it
>> Table that want to please.
I don't like reasoning. Need
to see why.
>> before. There was.
>> In 2017, we did a chain
know he withdrew 2017, this is
not grand jurors decision
because they never is was
withdrawn and less gave some
obsolescence or something some
point. I don't know that take
a look Yeah.
>> So question I don't know
Make a motion page. 28 for
one. 62. Second or first
question seeing none all in
favor. My most was the one. To
prove all ones we table,
correct. So all in favor say
Aye. Aye.
>> Appeals from the air and
off one. 63 201. The cna on
you know. Seemed to be a lot
of No assessment system. Yeah,
a lot of them the failure to
appear. Campaign one. 33 with
table 2 next month We just
moved in they want. Sent 1, 1,
of emotions as one 2 for 2.
201. It's been moved to second
and first question seeing none
all in favor say Aye. Aye
against the ayes. Have it.
Withdraws pages to prove 2.43
I make a motion that separates
2, 2, through 2.43 So at that
spending in second, any
further discussion. Seeing
none offers say Aye. Aye. The
ayes have As page to 44
through 2.79 And actually got
a couple.
>> yes, so the first one is on
to page 2, 7, 2, parcels, 704,
3, 9, 2, 7, For Goodwill Lady
Seager.
>> They submitted the
>> to be transferred on
DECEMBER 31st, which our
office is closed. So their
transfer date on their Di was
marked for 2026. The deed
itself was signed DECEMBER
saying 2025, but their
official transfer date was as
of 2026. So they're requesting
that exemption be approved
even though it has a transfer
in 2026. It was a 1, 9, 3, 2,
5,
>> Parcel, 819-704-3927. So
the execution date was in
2025. Transferred until 2020
>> So of your fsa. Okay. And
that's a recognition award.
And has different I just
reckon you guys to make that
this ok.
>> It's not going to be on the
agenda, because I table it for
this month that they need more
time. It was 703-5792.
>> Minutes and on this and up,
no, that time.
>> It's a part of good will
different. It time next. A
question.
>> Page 2.45? Partial, 1, 0,
0, 2, 5, 7, 7, says Political
subdivision is that the
Supreme Court.
>> 88
>> As a couple on here,
different values. And I was
about 12.2 2.54 Parcel 1, 0,
4, 7, 4, 1, has 2.1 least
Supreme Court.
>> I on the building.
>> And that's why parents here
answer that question.
>> Well, I think I'm that I
they were all. Can students to
tournament parcels, correct?
Bill does 2 parcels.
>> the a
>> Wallace 21% 23.1% And I'm
sorry, page. To 61. For for 1,
1, 0, 0, 8, 7, 9, It's not a
new hotel. Isn't.
>> sit us and believe it is
the double checked.
>> 1, 1, while you're there
are 8, 7, 9,
>> I don't like is the this
That's the office tower that
was bought. What's the
reasoning on that one?
>> Well, tensions 49% owned by
Capital Improvement Board.
>> think just because they own
we should be.
>> I don't know how evening
Capital Improvement Board owns
29 per cent of that off
>> and the Army Building
Facilities Corporation get It
says most there this the
building. Yet. See it owns it.
Yes. But don't apply for a 9%.
So been the support I would
you in hands 49%. I'm not even
sure they are required to
apply for an exemption. I
think there's a state statute.
So if you exempt, I believe
so. I mean, I think need. Look
at And again. 2012, there's
new statute that kind of
blanket. Exempted. Don't
remember you know. Council
look into case. You that's a
or whatever. That's I To see.
I want to one's
>> Supreme Court from kind of
care. A court injunction. On
that do.
>> The union unions. We're
doing. But his last month in
week. Nothing updated. Okay.
We're just and give. Thing
new.
>> I make a motion page 2.44
Through 2, 7, a lot to 79 with
them on the site of one of the
table. Second for discussion.
Seeing none all in favor say
Aye. Aye. The ayes have it.
>> We MR. Johnson on here.
>> MR. Johnson was that we
didn't know he was going to
invite. He said he was going
to come. So basically what
happened was he was sent one
for teens and one fifteens to
the address in pd.
>> That he hadn't updated. And
so he actually never received
the form 4 this hearing. So he
was asking the the be re.
Those appeals be reopened
since he never actually
received the form. But yes, it
not arsenal. If there's 2 its
701, 6 to 0, 9, and 700-2482.
>> Do do know is the kernel
address the correct address?
>> Thank you. Said that was
his old address.
>> So still hasn't updated it
as far as I'm aware because I
to show him where to get the
change of address form. But
then how did he know he missed
it?
>> Because he called because
he. He finally got sent the
form one 15. And so then he
called asking what that was
about.
>> And then I explain it to
him and he said he never got
the win for teens. I asked
that address was correct in
That's as old one. And he has
like 3 different.
>> Parcells. But these 2 women
believed to JULY. The JULY
peta, yes, they were just last
month.
>> He was told that here and
right.
>> Yes, I told him that was
today what floor? And he said
he was coming. So I guess it's
up to you. If you want to.
>> Open it or
>> so did get the one 15
enough to win 14? He said the
one 15 was finally forwarded
to him, but he didn't get the
one for teens for either
parcel. And he did it on the
3rd one either. But that was
one that hadn't gone to
hearing it. So it is able to
change it to a day when he
could come. That?
>> That's what that's where
she is it's still an incorrect
>> show them where to get the
form. And he said he was going
to.
>> So we need a motion reopen
under.
>> Record if you there's
nothing to it. Yeah, there's
nothing on agenda. It's under
his other business that I
don't.
>> need to do. They have to
their There's not open This
was just from the taxpayer to
come back and ask to open So.
>> Since the taxpayers not
here, is really anything for
them to act So you don't have
to do anything.
>> Acting on right? We do need
to act on And I want anything
else come forward. We're