[2:36] Ladies and gentlemen, good [2:37] afternoon. It's 1 o'clock and [2:39] we have a core. Let me call [2:44] the MAY 20th 2026 meeting of [2:45] the Metropolitan Development [2:46] Commission will now come to [2:51] order. Shannon Norman is here [2:52] today and I have asked her to [2:56] leave U.S. In the Pledge of [2:57] Allegiance. Shannon's last day [3:01] is MAY 28th. She has been an [3:01] exemplary employee for the [3:05] city of Indianapolis. She is [3:08] smart. She is hard working and [3:08] she will be a tremendous loss [3:11] for the city as she moves on [3:14] to go to Brown's bird. And and [3:16] work with their city [3:18] municipality. There. So [3:18] everybody, please welcome an [3:24] armored car whereby rise for [3:29] the pledge. Please let I [3:30] pledge allegiance to the flag [3:32] of the United States of [3:33] America and to the Republic [3:36] for which it stands. One [3:39] nation under GOD, indivisible, [3:40] with liberty and justice for [3:44] all. Thank you, Shannon. And [3:49] good luck to Moving forward. [3:54] Members of the commission last [3:54] week you received the minutes [3:58] from the MAY 6, 2026 meeting. [3:58] Are there any additions or [4:03] deletions to those minutes? [4:05] Hearing? None commissioner her [4:07] get out set the motion to [4:09] approve, so moved. Thank you, [4:10] commissioner, while take us [4:11] second. Let me call the roll [4:17] her. Get or yes. And while And [4:19] poor areas, Murphy Murphy s [4:22] Robinson Robinson. Yes, [4:23] Schumacher Schumacher recuse [4:23] because I left before the [4:25] meeting was over. Thank you. [4:35] The recused gifts. Doing yes. [4:35] The minutes past 7 to 0 with [4:40] one recusal. Moving forward. [4:43] Our other any continuation [4:44] withdraws special request that [4:49] we like to address Leticia. [4:50] Thank you. PRESIDENT Dylan and [4:52] members of the commission. I [4:53] am Leticia Ramsey, the [4:54] compliance manager for the [4:58] Economic Simmons team dmv. I [5:04] am requesting that item 20. 26 [5:05] dash a 0, 1, 9 be tabled into [5:08] after the acquisition. The [5:10] current Senate, a building to [5:12] be finalized. Thank you. As [5:13] I'm going to take this is a [5:16] point of order in consultation [5:20] with our council. I can just [5:21] take a look myself as CHAIRMAN [5:23] As a point of order. It's done [5:23] tabled. Thank you wait for it [5:29] to come back. Any other [5:29] continue? It's a special [5:31] requests. Us ma'am. Introduce [5:32] yourself. Momentum is just [5:36] bomb for 3, 3, 4 North Europe [5:39] saying string town now Rogers [5:40] Neighborhood Association and I [5:42] would like to cut interest. [5:45] Jessica, New start over. I was [5:47] because lot of noise or it's [5:48] your a string town now, which [5:49] is a retired Naval [5:51] Association. I'd like to [5:52] formally request as [5:57] continuance for cars in the. [5:57] 2, 0, 2, 6 ebr cdc Petco 3 [6:01] case. The dmv planning manager [6:02] confirmed in writing the [6:04] traffic study should have been [6:06] done for a project of this [6:07] size. No such study has been [6:07] produced despite weeks of [6:09] requests from U.S., the [6:10] commission cannot make [6:11] findings required under 9.9, [6:15] 1, 8.4 that appears that [6:16] approval will not injurious to [6:17] public health, safety and [6:17] welfare. With an analysis for [6:23] record. Kuehl on Justin, you [6:29] lost me here, which what's the [6:30] site that your request are in [6:34] cell c? Number 14 got at [6:37] number 14 on the agenda. [6:37] Guess. Thank you stand by, [6:40] please counselor. You want to [6:41] comment on this year. The [6:44] lawyer for the petitioner, [6:45] please come forward and are [6:47] sure deafening present. Dylan, [6:48] me should have been which [6:49] officers that one, Indiana [6:53] squares with 1800 attorney for [6:54] petitioner in this matter. And [6:57] we do have a firm objection to [7:00] the continuance. The project [7:00] was sir. The petition was [7:01] filed in JANUARY. We've been [7:05] having conversations with Dmd [7:06] dpw since early JANUARY [7:09] JANUARY, including related to [7:10] traffic and other issues. We [7:14] were not made aware that [7:14] staff's request was what can [7:15] we do? A traffic study until [7:18] late last. Week and the [7:21] request was that perform a [7:23] traffic study. We can make [7:24] commitment to performing a [7:25] traffic study prior to the [7:29] issuance permits which we're [7:32] happy to do and will [7:33] incorporate that commitment [7:34] into the record. So traffic [7:37] study will be done. This is a [7:38] low income housing tax credit [7:39] project with very tight [7:45] timelines. Much-needed [7:46] project. And so we asked that [7:49] the case they on the agenda. [7:50] Spoken with the city Councilor [7:53] Jones and she's here indicated [7:54] that she doesn't support a [7:59] continuous. Cancer. Can you [8:10] come up something? Thank you. [8:11] Good. Thank you, PRESIDENT [8:12] Don. I prefer you go on the [8:13] record versus the absolutely [8:17] yes. Tuition is like yes. [8:18] Christine 14 separate straight [8:19] Indianapolis, Indiana City [8:21] County Council for District [8:24] 18. And I also am against this [8:25] continuance request. We've [8:26] worked hard for many, many [8:27] months working with the [8:30] neighborhood, the Neighborhood [8:30] Association residents dpw, the [8:33] agency's dandy and then [8:35] getting there everything in [8:35] line for this and they are [8:39] willing to do that. The [8:40] traffic study as chair [8:41] CHAIRWOMAN Of public works. [8:42] I'm very familiar with traffic [8:43] studies and I will be held [8:44] accountable to make sure that [8:47] traffic study is done. Thank [8:48] you, counselor. Natalie, as [8:49] always, thank you for your [8:51] support of absolutely in dc. [8:52] Thank you, Kathleen. Are you [8:55] ready to go? Yes, I'm prepared [8:56] to go forward today. Your [9:00] thoughts on this continuance [9:02] requests? I a traffic study is [9:03] not required for rezoning. [9:05] That is typically a request [9:09] made by staff and staff became [9:10] aware that that this would be [9:12] an appropriate time for a [9:14] traffic study. But there is [9:15] and b petitioners, [9:18] representative. Has agreed [9:19] that there would be a [9:20] commitment that there would be [9:22] a traffic study and any [9:25] recommendations to the [9:27] infrastructure of this project [9:27] would be included with [9:32] development. That you're ready [9:34] to go. Yes, I'm prepared to go [9:35] forward. The members of the [9:37] commission, we have a request [9:41] for a continuance. Of 2026. [9:46] See the 803. And dovetail [9:51] 2026. Cvc 803. You've heard [9:52] the testimony. I don't know if [10:00] there's a I. If there's a [10:01] somebody who wants to make a [10:02] motion to continue, this are [10:03] about wants to make a motion [10:09] on commission. Seeing none [10:10] you're request dies for lack [10:12] of emotion. We're ready to go. [10:13] Counselor, we want to hear [10:16] staff. We want to hear [10:17] understand or monsters. We [10:19] want to hear your west as [10:19] well. So we will hear the case [10:25] today. Any other requests. [10:27] Withdraw us, Kathleen? Yes, [10:29] thank you. PRESIDENT Members [10:29] of the commission can staff a [10:32] your attention to item number [10:35] 9, 2026 z o and 0 to 6 located [10:37] at 35 65 South. Keystone [10:38] Avenue that will need to be [10:41] continued to your JUNE 3rd [10:43] pending receipt of executed [10:44] commitments. And that will [10:45] require a motion and a vote. [10:54] Thank you. Thank you, Kathleen [10:54] staffers requests everybody [10:57] else who like to comment on [10:59] this counselor? Thank you for [11:01] coming forward. Russell Brown [11:02] with law firm of Clarke went [11:03] through 20 North Meridian [11:04] Street. We deliver those [11:06] commitments to Kathleen [11:07] Mission and they were reviewed [11:08] in, I thought approved. So on. [11:14] Well, that. So so I'm slightly [11:14] shocked at where well, I MAY [11:18] have missed cent, but I trust [11:19] Russell, that those have been [11:20] submitted. And so it can go [11:24] forward. And then there was [11:25] only one commitment related to [11:27] that. And it was having to [11:29] maintain the lot clean well [11:35] maintained. So we trust [11:36] verify, know, retracting my [11:39] request for a continuance. [11:40] Thank you. Recipe for sure. [11:41] Thank you. So sorry about [11:45] that. All right. So [11:48] Twenty-twenty 6 to 6 is back [11:52] in play. Any other requests. [11:58] Continuances withdrawal. [11:59] PRESIDENT Doing members [11:59] commission. I like to bring [12:01] your attention agenda item 13. [12:06] This is for the proposed [12:06] ordinance amendments 2026. [12:11] Here's your one. We are asking [12:13] to continue this to the JUNE [12:14] 3rd and you see hearing this [12:18] will allow us to continue to [12:20] review the public input that's [12:23] been provided and provided the [12:25] most robust response for your [12:27] view. With your permission, [12:28] I'd like to move this JUNE [12:31] 3rd. And you see hearing. [12:36] Bryce, I'm curious. Going to [12:37] be making changes to what was [12:41] been submitted to us. Of. [12:42] You're so right now, that's [12:43] the key part why we're asking [12:44] for that to make sure that we [12:46] can provide to all the [12:47] information, including all of [12:48] that community input that [12:49] we've heard. I have been [12:52] provided. So then you have a [12:53] full comprehensive review. [12:53] When you have ordinance [12:58] amendment part of you. If you [12:59] make a material change to what [13:01] you've been presented to us [13:03] MAY cause additional time [13:03] issues. You understand we're [13:07] fully aware. Here today who [13:09] like to comment on this? [13:16] Requests? 2026? 1, 9, being [13:20] continue to JUNE 3rd. Seeing [13:21] freshener Schumacher. Can I [13:26] get a motion to move 2026? 1, [13:29] 9, to the meeting of JUNE 3rd, [13:31] 2026. So moved Commissioner [13:32] West. Can I get a second [13:37] second call the roll? Heard [13:40] her. Lyle. Yes, where Murphy [13:46] Rob sounds yes, Schumacher [13:47] Schumacher. Yes, gifts doing [13:51] is the yes that passes 0 and [13:53] it's on track for the JUNE [13:57] 3rd, 2026 meeting. Any other [13:59] requests withdrawals? [14:05] Continuances. Nancy. Read the [14:06] resolutions in the record, [14:10] please. Thank you. PRESIDENT [14:17] Doing and commissioners. [14:19] Resolutions real estate is [14:21] 2026. 0, 1, 5, authorizes [14:21] department metropolitan [14:22] development to convey title [14:25] are an option to purchase [14:27] title a property to the [14:29] Transferee has approved by the [14:30] vacant a vibrant review [14:31] committee for the purpose of [14:32] providing development that [14:33] will best serve the interests [14:38] of the city. 2026. A 0, 1, 9 [14:44] was cable. 2026. P 0, 0, 4 [14:45] establishes and approve the [14:52] budget of 275. $275,000 for [14:52] the ground. Water protection [14:53] fun authorizes the Department [14:55] of Metropolitan Development to [14:56] administer the funds for the [14:58] purposes of developing and [15:00] operating education and [15:02] voluntary business [15:02] registration programs through [15:05] the Marion County will feel [15:08] Education Corporation Mcw ec [15:09] and a ministry in the [15:09] Wellfield Protection. [15:14] Secondary zoning districts. [15:16] 2026 p 0, 0, 5, authorizes the [15:17] Department of Metropolitan [15:21] Development. Access the public [15:24] water supply systems of Marion [15:30] County, $275,000 $2500,000 for [15:31] the purpose of funding the [15:33] ground. Water protection, fun [15:39] for 2026. 2026. P 0, 0, 7 [15:41] authorizes the Department [15:43] Metropolitan Development to [15:45] execute an amendment to the [15:47] contract. Number 2, 0, 9, 9, [15:50] 1, with multi studio [15:51] incorporated to finalize the [15:52] in Annapolis, Marion County, [15:54] Zoning and Subdivision Control [15:57] ordinance. The endearing zone [16:00] regard to equitable [16:01] development and overall not to [16:05] exceed amount of $145,000 with [16:07] the terms through DECEMBER [16:09] 2026, this the reading of the [16:12] resolution. Thank you, Nancy. [16:13] Members of the commission we [16:14] have before us for policy [16:15] resolutions that are not [16:15] scheduled for a public [16:23] hearing. 2026 r '01, 5, 2026 p [16:28] o 4. 2026. P o '05. 2026 p o [16:33] 7. I like to take all 4 at [16:35] once. Commission Can I get a [16:36] motion to approve all 4 [16:37] resolutions so moved? Thank [16:38] you. Commissioner Murphy. Can [16:40] I get a second second? Let me [16:42] call the roll her. Get her. [16:47] While. While yes, where the [16:51] U.S. Murphy Murphy s Robinson [16:53] Robinson. Yes, Schumacher [16:56] Schumacher. Yes, west west. [16:57] Yes. Doing is call for [17:01] resolutions past 8, 2, 0, [17:03] Nancy, can you read the [17:03] petitions and no appeal into [17:10] the record? Please. Thank you, [17:13] PRESIDENT. Do commissioners, [17:14] petitions of no appeal [17:15] recommended for approval by [17:18] the year. You examine years [17:23] 2026. Him. Od. 0, 0, 2, 73, 0, [17:26] 5 Kentucky Avenue and 87. 28 [17:29] 87. 32 87. 36 in 87 40 Tolson [17:30] Drive Decatur Township Council [17:38] district. 21. 2026, 0, 2, 0. [17:41] 35 20 Robson Street. Senator [17:47] Township Council District 13. [17:49] 2026, 0, 0, 2, one at 2065 [17:50] Yandy Street Center Township [17:56] Council District. 13. 2026, 0, [17:57] 0, to 6. A 35 65 South. [18:00] Keystone Avenue. Perry [18:07] Township Council District. 22. [18:09] 2026 e o and 0 to 18. 65 55 [18:10] Carrollton Avenue, Washington [18:16] Township Council District 7. [18:17] 0, 3, 1, 17, 50 West Morris [18:18] Street Center Township Council [18:25] District 18. And last 2026. [18:28] Our Eg 0 to 9, 11, 40 Dr [18:28] Martin Luther King Junior [18:30] Street Center Township Council [18:31] District 12. This is the [18:33] reading of the petitions of no [18:36] appeal. Thank you, Nancy. The [18:37] foreign 7 zoning positions are [18:44] recommended for approval. 2026 [18:51] m o d '02, 2026, 2026 0 to one [19:01] 2026, to 6, 2026, to 8. 2026, [19:06] 3, 1, 2026. Are e to 9 [19:07] commissioner Herget. I'd like [19:10] to take all 7 together. Kind [19:10] of get a motion to approve. So [19:11] moved to mission allowed. Can [19:13] I get a second second? Let me [19:18] call the roll. Heard her. Yes. [19:21] While Lyle, yes, more [19:21] Mauritius Murphy Murphy asked [19:24] Robinson 10, yes, Schumer, [19:27] Schumacher, yes, West West [19:30] doing is a yes. All 7 [19:32] petitions of no appeal. Half [19:36] past. Nancy, let's read our [19:40] first hearing into the record. [19:41] Thank you. Once again, [19:43] PRESIDENT Don't and [19:44] commissioners, but for [19:46] petitions for public hearing [19:48] are companion petitions [19:49] approved by the hearing [19:50] Examiner appeal filed by [19:57] reminds traitor. 2026 cvr 8, [19:59] 0, 3, and 2026. Cvc 803, [20:02] amended at 14. 37 through 15. [20:07] 33 Saucy Street 14. 22 15. 28, [20:12] even Aster Street and 2, 1, 9 [20:13] key street Senator Township [20:16] Council district 18. The [20:19] property is owned e a r c. [20:21] Tissues Union Holdings 3 llc [20:25] by Michael Rabinovitch. They [20:26] are requesting a variance of [20:29] user development standards of [20:29] the Consolidated Zoning and [20:30] subdivision ordinance to [20:33] provide for a large apartment [20:35] not permitted the building [20:37] height of 50 feet maximum. 35 [20:39] the permitted the floor area [20:43] ratio of 1.88 maximum 0.8, 0, [20:46] 4, area racial permitted and a [20:47] minimum liveability space [20:51] ratio of 0, 7, minimum of 0.7 [20:56] 5 required. Also require [20:58] requesting vacation of the [20:59] first east with Sally south of [21:01] salt. Street ranging from 8 [21:04] feet and 12 feet in with from [21:05] the east right away line of [21:08] Ken Hughes Street b, the [21:11] southeast corner of what 51 of [21:13] meant years, Wilmot Place. [21:16] Section 3 as recorded in plat [21:18] book 12 Page One, 5157 in the [21:19] Office of the Recorder of [21:23] Marion County, Indiana. 660 [21:24] feet to the east and to the [21:26] West right away line White [21:30] River Parkway West Drive also [21:32] requesting vacation of the [21:33] first North South alley with [21:34] the White River Parkway West [21:37] Drive the 8 feet wide and the [21:39] south right away line of salsa [21:41] street, 86 feet to the south [21:44] to the north right away line. [21:46] Of the first East West ally, [21:50] south of salt, the streets. [21:52] And make 18 vacation of the [21:53] second instance North South [21:54] Alley with the White River [21:57] Parkway West Drive the 14 feet [21:59] wide, 220 feet south to the [22:00] north right away line of Aster [22:07] Street. All those intended to [22:08] testify on these petitions [22:09] afternoon, either for or [22:11] against. Please stand now to [22:12] be identified. And I believe [22:13] he would have fill out [22:14] speaking slipped. Anybody else [22:20] going to speak? Please raise [22:24] your right hands. Do you swear [22:32] or affirm Do you swear or [22:33] affirm as a pill is a perjury [22:34] to tell the truth and nothing. [22:34] But the 2 said, do I do? Thank [22:40] you. Let me walk through the [22:44] rules of engagement. We will [22:45] ask the petitioner to present [22:45] their case. They will have 15 [22:49] minutes to do so. I will then [22:52] come to the rim on strangers. [22:52] Jesse, are you going to be [22:55] taking the lead on that? So [22:57] you had several people [23:00] standing up. You also be given [23:02] 15 minutes only to present [23:04] your case. I will then go to [23:05] council Jones for her comments [23:07] in her position on the matter [23:09] and then I will go to staff to [23:12] get the staff report. After [23:14] staff has done. I go back to [23:16] the petitioner for 5 minutes [23:19] of rebuttal and I go back [23:20] after that. The reminds [23:20] traitors for 5 minutes of [23:23] rebuttal. We write a orderly, [23:27] timely meeting. Light goes on [23:30] on your time. You are done. [23:32] Council. You're on the clock. [23:33] 15 minutes. Go as Sarah [23:36] Michelle Rabinowitz again, one [23:38] of the squares with 1800 in [23:40] Indianapolis. In this case, I [23:41] represent the annex group, [23:44] which is a locally based [23:46] multifamily developer focuses [23:48] on affordable housing. As many [23:50] of, you know, our city is in [23:53] the middle of an affordable [23:55] housing shortage. We're in [23:56] desk. We're we're we're in [23:57] desperate need of finding [24:00] affordable housing for our [24:01] Citizens. Annex is a local [24:02] developer that's trying to [24:06] fill that need. Here today. On [24:08] behalf of an ex is Joyce. Good [24:08] morning. Ryan Clark is also [24:13] here. He's in the back. The [24:16] subject property consists of a [24:17] 3.4 acre assemblage of a [24:19] number of smaller parcels in [24:20] the string town neighborhood, [24:24] which is just west White River [24:26] in it around zoo. But across [24:30] river. Work closely with the [24:32] string town Neighborhood [24:35] Association and City Councilor [24:36] Christian Jones to develop the [24:40] site plan. The elevations, an [24:40] agreement with the [24:41] neighborhood that's mutually [24:42] beneficial. I'll talk about [24:45] each of those things. The [24:46] neighborhood Association has [24:47] offered a letter of support in [24:51] there materials that have 11 [24:52] and counselor Jones letter [24:53] supports in your materials [24:54] that had 10 and she's here and [24:55] will we'll speak to you in [24:59] support of the project. I'm [25:01] just move through information [25:04] that's included in exhibits [25:08] behind tab one r a some aerial [25:09] shots of the site. Just to [25:11] give you context again, it's [25:13] west of the White River, [25:14] bounded by White River Parkway [25:17] to the east of the site. To [25:17] the north is Saul c Street to [25:20] the south is Aster Street and [25:24] then came street is to the [25:26] west as part of this [25:28] development, both Aster Street [25:28] and Street, which of the 2 [25:31] streets north and south. We'll [25:34] be widened in. That was a [25:35] request that was made of us [25:36] from dpw and our our [25:41] conversations. As we studied [25:42] kind of the circulation the [25:44] traffic flow in the area. [25:46] Behind Tab. 2 are some site [25:51] photos. The site consists of. [25:54] Some vacant ground and then [25:55] also a number of residential [25:58] structures in varying stages [26:01] of disrepair and decay. All [26:03] but one of those residential [26:06] buildings is subject of a [26:07] demolition order or some sort [26:10] of notice of violation. The [26:14] property owner behind Tab 3 is [26:18] study the structures that are [26:20] existing and and the and their [26:21] reports are behind tab 3 by a [26:22] structural engineer. The point [26:25] is that these properties are [26:27] decaying and significantly and [26:28] the properties in desperate [26:32] need of improvement. Through [26:36] this Next is investing is [26:38] making a 70 million dollar [26:39] investment in the neighborhood [26:42] to improve these properties [26:43] and to put them to good use [26:44] for much needed affordable [26:47] housing. The properties are [26:50] already zone we're not asking [26:51] for rezoning da, as I'm sure, [26:54] you know, is a fairly intense [26:57] residential zoning district [26:59] where multi-family development [27:01] is typically contemplated as [27:02] opposed to single family [27:04] development. Again, the [27:05] properties are already zone d [27:10] 8. In addition, as staff has [27:10] pointed out in the staff [27:13] report. The proposed [27:17] development is consistent with [27:17] applicable land use plan, [27:18] which is the near West [27:21] Neighborhood land use plan. [27:21] Not only does it recommend da [27:26] development. But here, quote, [27:26] a couple of quotes from this [27:30] land use plan. The area has a [27:31] high number of vacant. Lots in [27:34] an occupies houses. It is [27:38] right for a shift in use [27:39] influences are busy. [27:40] Washington Street to the south [27:40] and neighboring [27:42] Indianapolis zoo. The adjacent [27:46] White River and proximity to [27:46] downtown. And I knew I and the [27:49] potential for rapid transit [27:49] along Washington Street [27:51] corridor. The other thing from [27:54] the neighborhood plan that I [27:56] think is relevant. It states [28:00] that multi-family residential [28:01] development in the area should [28:05] take the form of purpose-built [28:06] multi-family structures rather [28:07] than subdividing the existing [28:11] structures into multiple [28:12] units. In other words, as the [28:15] hearing examiner had put in [28:16] their recommendation, support [28:21] for project, she stated the [28:22] proposed development is [28:23] compatible with the [28:24] single-family dwellings and [28:26] would be inappropriate. Reuse [28:30] of the site. Next is proposing [28:35] a 242 unit multi-family [28:37] development with 258 [28:39] structured parking spaces. [28:42] There are additional 44 [28:43] parking spaces on the street [28:46] around the property. Again, [28:47] the property already zoned e [28:51] 8. But we're asking for [28:52] several variances which are [28:56] required because the Indy [28:57] rezone has residential [28:59] building type standards, but [29:04] to bring this type of density [29:06] to a a with da zoning, which [29:08] again is contemplated. You [29:11] need variances for height in [29:13] some of the open space Those [29:14] of that variances that were [29:19] requesting. Moving to tab 4, [29:24] which is the site plan. As you [29:26] can see, the eastern end of [29:28] the site is reserved for some [29:30] publicly accessible green [29:34] space. It is one building that [29:34] architectural. Are broken up [29:36] into 2 buildings, too. Break [29:40] up the massing a number of [29:41] changes were done after a [29:43] conversation with staff and [29:47] the city architect, including [29:48] and most significantly staff's [29:52] request that. The Western. [29:55] Component of the building, [29:57] which is closest to the [29:59] residential, be reduced from 4 [30:01] stories to 3 stories. So you [30:04] have a three-story building [30:05] that's closest to the [30:07] residential. And then as you [30:08] move east closer to White [30:10] River and the views of [30:12] downtown. You have a 4 story [30:15] building that was a major [30:20] change that was made. Behind [30:24] Tab 5 is the landscape plan. [30:25] We submitted the landscape [30:28] plan in connection with the [30:29] petition. It meets ordinance [30:33] Green Factor requirement. I [30:33] wanted to comment on the [30:35] existing trees that were on [30:37] the property or that are on [30:39] the property. We had a tree [30:39] study done a survey and we [30:44] survey. The survey show that [30:46] there are 5 on this 3.4 acre [30:46] site. They're just 5 heritage [30:49] trees and not minimizing the [30:51] importance of heritage trees. [30:52] But there there just 5 of [30:56] them. We understand that based [30:57] upon the ordinance, there's a [30:59] requirement to mitigate the [31:02] removal of those treason. In [31:03] this case, it's permitted [31:07] under the ordinances staff has [31:08] indicated redevelopment of the [31:09] site could not occur without [31:13] it. That being said, if you [31:13] look at the site, the [31:18] landscape plan. The proposal [31:19] is the plant. 96 new trees [31:21] around the perimeter of the [31:23] site. So the landscaping will [31:25] be vastly improved based upon [31:29] what is being proposed here. [31:33] Moving to tab. 7 tab. 6 is the [31:38] is the tree Study tab 7. Our [31:38] floor plans. I just wanted to [31:40] note a couple of things [31:46] briefly. In conversations with [31:47] the String Town Neighborhood [31:48] Association, they expressed a [31:49] real interest and need for a [31:52] place where they could store [31:53] lot of quitman and materials [31:54] that they use throughout the [31:56] neighborhood to help [31:59] residents. They asked whether [31:59] that might be something that [32:01] the developer would consider [32:03] and the developer is [32:04] committing to that. So you'll [32:08] see on the first floor plan, [32:08] there's a storage area [32:09] identified on that plan for [32:11] use by the Neighborhood [32:13] Association. Not quite [32:14] lockdown where it would be, [32:14] whether it's inside the garage [32:17] or here on the perimeter. But [32:18] we've made that commitment in [32:21] writing any agreement. [32:22] Something else I want to point [32:24] out because a number of [32:27] residents, including members [32:28] of the string town [32:31] Neighborhood Association have [32:33] talked about safety and [32:35] security concerns. And we've [32:35] committed to a number of [32:38] things in the Neighborhood [32:39] Association agreement. I like [32:41] having the garage and building [32:44] locked in key Fleck trying a [32:47] key fob access only on site [32:51] management. But one unique [32:54] thing which I credit counselor [32:55] Jones for is I think this came [32:58] from experience and other [33:00] situations that time in [33:03] consultation with the police [33:04] chief. She suggested we [33:05] consider, which is to allocate [33:05] an area of that building for a [33:09] fitness area. And then permit [33:10] impd officers are in this case [33:13] as close to the university. [33:15] University offers officers to [33:16] use that facility free of [33:19] charge, which work the [33:20] petitioners committing to do [33:22] that, at least bring some [33:27] additional police presence. [33:30] Also committing include in the [33:32] development connection to impd [33:34] be linked system. For those of [33:35] you that don't know. I've [33:36] included some materials about [33:38] the billing system behind 10, [33:40] 14. The link is a connection [33:41] between the video cameras that [33:46] are on site. The district's [33:48] video cameras. And so it it [33:49] provides for quicker response [33:51] time and monitoring by impd. [33:54] That's something that I think [33:55] is important to them and is [34:01] important too annex. Lets see [34:01] be time tab. 8 or building [34:05] elevations. And then behind [34:10] Tab 9 are some renderings. The [34:12] design of the building is [34:15] still work in in in process. [34:17] We had conversations with [34:20] planning and with the city [34:21] architect City architect asked [34:24] that we continued to develop [34:25] the architecture as we move [34:27] through the incentive part of [34:29] the the approval process, [34:31] which which we certainly will [34:34] do. The materials are brick [34:36] masonry and fiber cement, [34:38] siding. Each of units will [34:38] have outdoor space. Whether [34:45] it's a patio or about Kenny. I [34:46] want to talk a little bit [34:47] about our engagement with the [34:53] community. We know that [34:53] they're not everybody agrees [34:57] with this project. We [34:59] understand that. And that's ok [34:59] and that there are people who [35:02] will speak against it. Well, [35:04] what I did want to make clear [35:06] is that we have tried to [35:09] communicate and listen to [35:10] everyone. It doesn't matter [35:14] which group you're with. Spent [35:14] time with the string town [35:16] Neighborhood Association, [35:18] folks. We attended a public [35:19] meeting that they call but was [35:21] intent was attended by [35:25] representative both groups. We [35:26] attended a separate [35:27] neighborhood association [35:28] meeting called by the [35:31] Stringtown Now Association. [35:33] We've responded to email [35:35] requests for for information [35:36] and tried to do everything we [35:39] can. To at least show that we [35:40] are listening in going to be a [35:44] good neighbor and their number [35:45] of changes that have been made [35:46] made to the project as a [35:49] result of those conversations. [35:51] I mentioned earlier the [35:53] agreement between the [35:56] petitioner in Springtown [35:57] Neighborhood Association and [35:59] that agreement is behind Tab [36:01] 12. It provides not only for [36:05] the safety and security. [36:05] Commitments that I talked [36:06] about. The fitness facility [36:10] available him pd and on-site [36:11] management and those sorts of [36:12] things. But a financial [36:17] commitment that annex is [36:18] making to the neighborhood to [36:19] the neighborhood Association. [36:20] Did they can do improvement [36:22] projects and things like that. [36:23] They've seen that work in [36:25] other locations. I know the [36:26] counselor Jones has worked on [36:29] those types of agreements on [36:32] projects that we've had. And [36:35] it's it's been very beneficial [36:35] so the point is that we've [36:37] worked very hard to try to [36:40] accommodate concerns. We know [36:43] that changes difficult, but [36:44] we're really working to bring [36:47] a good project to the [36:49] neighborhood. With that. We'd [36:52] asked for your approval of the [36:53] variances and the vacation [36:56] that is required to permit [36:57] this development to move [36:59] forward and and the approval [37:01] with we request would be [37:02] subject to The commitment to [37:05] perform. The traffic study has [37:08] indicated earlier and to make [37:09] any improvements to [37:10] infrastructure that are [37:10] required by that traffic [37:11] study. Questions for the [37:17] petitioner. Hearing. None. [37:22] Thank you, counselor Jesse. [37:23] Iran stairs. You have 15 [37:24] minutes to make your case [37:26] Jussie. You are duly sworn [37:27] correct? Yes, sir. Please [37:28] introduce yourself again and [37:30] your address. My name is Jesse [37:33] Bomb 3, 3, 4 North Elder [37:34] representing Stringtown [37:35] nowhere which neighborhood [37:36] association. I do have some [37:50] packets. And in and The clock, [38:05] Nancy. [38:37] Nancy, start o'clock. [38:41] Please. Just a year on 15 [38:43] minutes go for a start. I [38:44] would like to know one thing. [38:48] I am a citizen who works 11 [38:49] hour days and I'm also finish [38:52] my degree currently. I have no [38:53] training in planning the [38:54] recently attending people's [38:55] Planning Academy. And what [38:56] I've taught myself in the last [38:59] year. I've spent countless [39:02] hours reading land-use plans. [39:02] Sony ordinances and codes and [39:03] many parts of the [39:06] comprehensive plan as well. [39:09] Every player, your nose and by [39:10] name, at least because I'm [39:11] female. And I'm always asking [39:13] questions and trying be the [39:14] most informed community member [39:15] that I can be and to also [39:19] inform my community members. [39:21] We take time away from our [39:21] families and our lives to stay [39:23] on top of off and changing [39:25] hearing dates to our best to [39:25] decipher a complicated legal [39:27] paperwork. We get in the mail [39:29] and take days off. Work [39:30] without pay to be here. [39:31] Arguing against experts who [39:31] are paid quite well to be [39:38] here. So with that. Start with [39:42] some findings of fact. The [39:42] proposed vacation. He's in the [39:43] public interest because the [39:47] Cup. Sorry, comprehensive [39:47] development of the [39:49] underutilized indicating site [39:50] would be facilitated by [39:51] proposed development. I want [39:54] to note here that the current [39:55] owner of this land has engaged [39:56] in purposeful demolition by [39:59] neglect. And willful [40:01] destruction of these homes [40:02] within the last year windows [40:03] and siding removed, leaving [40:06] them open to the elements. [40:07] Copper and wiring removed. [40:07] Interior is gutted and no [40:11] repairs done. As recently as [40:13] 2020 for many of these homes [40:14] were occupied. One still is [40:17] occupied by a family. As our [40:18] neighbor has been robbed [40:20] usable housing inventory. And [40:20] now we're being told to start [40:23] to benefit to our benefit. [40:24] There's a lot of vacant land [40:25] and string town taking land [40:28] that has historic one single [40:28] family homes that could be [40:39] rehabbed. It's not are not [40:40] against development. We are [40:42] against development that harms [40:43] our community. We like many [40:44] others envisioning development [40:45] that preserves and [40:45] rehabilitate are poor and [40:50] working class community. Both [40:52] affordable homes. We also [40:52] support multifamily [40:53] development, consistent with [40:53] the current zoning and [40:57] comprehensive plan. There was [40:59] a community meeting between [40:59] acts group and their lawyer [41:01] held on APRIL 13th that we [41:02] attended testing neighborhood [41:03] Association. We were invited [41:04] by the String Town [41:06] Neighborhood association that [41:07] raid on a bird associations [41:08] operated solely by one person [41:08] who does not live in our [41:09] neighborhood property in [41:14] string town. At the APRIL 13th [41:14] meeting they held. We were [41:15] informed about closed door [41:17] meetings between the annex [41:18] group String Town Neighborhood [41:19] Association and our city [41:20] County councilor that been [41:20] taking place since DECEMBER of [41:24] 2025. Even though string town [41:25] now has been a registered [41:25] neighborhood association with [41:26] the city since before the [41:27] petition was filed. We were [41:28] left out of these [41:32] conversations. Stringtown now [41:33] another neighbors, property [41:36] owners, church leaders. We're [41:37] and landlords were all left [41:38] these conversations that were [41:38] had about this development for [41:41] months. Last year. This [41:42] development shooting, this [41:44] part of land was denied [41:44] multiple times for demolition [41:46] of these properties. Because [41:48] there was no plan. Then this [41:52] is a plan that was. Given. But [41:52] again, there's a lot of vacant [41:53] land and strengthen the could [41:55] be utilized for this. We don't [41:56] need to turn a more single [41:58] family homes. Because I [42:00] understand that not everyone [42:01] could attend the meeting in [42:02] person on APRIL 13th. I [42:04] personally or not every door [42:06] surrounding the proposed [42:07] development because I [42:10] understood sorry I spoke to [42:10] elderly and disabled residents [42:11] as well as non [42:12] English-speaking residents. [42:13] Not one person I spoke to was [42:14] in support. I present you with [42:16] a petition to that effect and [42:19] there are more than 35 [42:20] signatures there. [42:21] Approximately 35 homes in that [42:23] area. You should have a map in [42:23] your packet showing which [42:29] homes I want to. A building of [42:30] this size is density is not [42:31] currently allowed by the [42:33] zoning for many reasons. Quite [42:34] simply this nearly 200 [42:36] year-old neighborhood was not [42:37] designed for that number of [42:39] people and cars and such a [42:40] small area, the neighborhood [42:41] will suffer in numerous ways. [42:42] Its belt severe impacts. The [42:44] quality of life include [42:46] numerous health and safety [42:48] concerns, parking and traffic [42:48] issues, lack of privacy view [42:52] shed some light, historic [42:53] integrity and environmental [42:54] safety, which will talk more [42:55] about that in just a moment. [43:00] Next slide, please. As I [43:01] mentioned, Stringtown now [43:01] accepts and welcomes [43:03] substantial density. The near [43:06] West Land use plan recommends [43:07] that each to 15 units per acre [43:11] are built. The current zoning [43:11] allows for low rise [43:13] apartments, garden apartments, [43:16] townhouses and row homes. We [43:16] have the Queen Commons, which [43:18] includes a picture as well, a [43:19] low-rise apartment building [43:20] just a block away from the [43:22] site. It blends well with the [43:22] surrounding homes and allows [43:25] for density. I want to know [43:26] that I've been told repeatedly [43:28] that the city wants density [43:29] and despite the zoning for [43:31] this area, we need more [43:33] density. The density doesn't [43:34] outweigh the of our community. [43:35] However, this question isn't [43:37] if the city needs density, [43:37] it's whether the variance [43:42] meets the standard. Although [43:43] it has been suggested that [43:44] string towners are against [43:44] affordable housing, I say that [43:46] that's not the case at all. We [43:47] are a poor and working class [43:50] community. And have been some [43:52] springtime was founded in 18. [43:54] 88 the area in area, median [43:57] income level used to calculate [43:58] the prices for this building, [44:01] making it affordable does not [44:02] reflect actual string town [44:02] incomes for the near West [44:05] Health Impact Report which [44:06] documents median household [44:09] incomes of less than $50,000. [44:10] This isn't affordable housing. [44:11] It's gentrification and it [44:12] will lead to people being [44:12] pushed out of our [44:13] neighborhood. Next slide. [44:18] Please. There have been [44:19] countless reports of [44:20] substandard living conditions, [44:21] violence and many other [44:22] problems from their nearby [44:25] affordable development unit. [44:27] 16th. He received a letter [44:29] from Robin Van Hine detailing [44:30] the extreme challenges he's [44:30] experienced as Burke with the [44:33] residents have union at 16th. [44:34] I've also said Ukraine [44:35] statistics for that location [44:36] from impd. This includes many [44:39] violent and crimes theft [44:42] drugs, multiple hit-and-runs [44:43] and officer involved shooting [44:44] and a nearly fatal shooting [44:47] just last month. Reverend [44:48] Hines letter and the Google [44:49] reviews from residents paint a [44:51] disturbing picture of neglect [44:54] Roach in mice, infestations. [44:55] Lack of promise services, [44:56] including their onsite gym [44:58] being inaccessible for years. [45:00] And generally deplorable [45:02] conditions throughout this [45:02] building will not make our [45:03] neighborhoods safer better in [45:06] any way. Been told by an ex [45:08] group that they learn from [45:09] their mistakes. But if that's [45:10] true, why haven't they improve [45:11] the conditions in the [45:11] building? They already own and [45:14] operate. In fact, crime has [45:15] gone up in last year's and [45:16] Xanax group took over [45:17] management of that property. [45:23] Next slide. Please. At this [45:23] time, no traffic study has [45:24] been done to calculate how [45:25] this outsized development [45:26] would negatively affect [45:29] traffic of our neighborhood. [45:30] Recently, we have seen major [45:30] increase in cut through [45:31] traffic from the West [45:31] Washington transit [45:36] construction. And soon the [45:37] 16th Street bridge closure [45:37] will also send more people [45:38] directly through our small [45:40] neighborhood. We have already [45:42] taxed small streets. And [45:43] people tend to drive really [45:44] fast when they're coming [45:46] through as well. These [45:47] projects are projected to take [45:49] at least 2 more years. That's [45:50] for the West, Washington and [45:54] 16th Street Bridge. Pending up [45:57] to pending dpw approval. Only [45:58] asked c Street would be [45:59] improved even coin, which is [46:00] the street on the far left of [46:03] that image. And other [46:04] surrounding streets to bear [46:04] the brunt of massive increases [46:05] in traffic. Next slide. [46:11] Please. As I mentioned, this [46:12] historic neighborhood was not [46:12] designed for building of this [46:14] size with hundreds more [46:16] residents and a very small [46:18] block, which is why large [46:18] apartment complex is not [46:20] permitted. And the zoning [46:21] district, the census covering [46:24] this area and stringtown has a [46:28] population of only 1578 people [46:30] adding a 242 unit with up to 3 [46:31] bedroom units. He's adding [46:34] hundreds more people. The [46:36] building moment. 35 feet for [46:38] height. They're asking for 50, [46:40] which is a 43% increase over [46:41] the limit. The floor area [46:43] ratio is 0.8, 0. They're [46:46] asking for more than double [46:47] usable. Outdoor spaces [46:49] required to be 75% at that [46:51] site. The proposing is and [46:53] what they're proposing is a [46:55] 91% reduction. 5 heritage [46:56] trees protected under this in [46:57] New Orleans are also in [46:58] danger. Once these trees are [46:59] removed or neighborhood will [47:01] suffer. The consequences for [47:04] decades, if not longer. [47:06] Saplings, do not provide the [47:07] benefits and often do not [47:09] survive into maturity. [47:11] Proximity to the White River [47:12] Park does nothing to mitigate [47:13] how this will affect our [47:13] storm. Water runoff heat [47:20] islands and And pollution [47:23] mitigation, it strengthened as [47:23] excessive pollution stormwater [47:24] runoff and he island issues [47:25] currently our tree canopy [47:28] coverage is 20% which is very [47:30] low for residential [47:31] neighborhood, marking it in [47:31] the highest priority group, [47:32] according to the American [47:34] Forest Tree Equity score. I [47:35] didn't include a map offense [47:38] when your packet. This [47:39] resource shows that string [47:41] town is 10 degrees hotter. [47:43] Then the areas surrounding us [47:46] that includes campus. The left [47:46] Hawthorne, all the areas [47:47] directly around us 10 degrees [47:52] cooler. That the area that [47:54] they're proposing to demolish [47:55] is one of the luscious parts [47:55] of the neighborhood. When [47:56] you're there, you can notably [47:57] feel a difference in [47:59] temperature. If you want to [48:00] neighborhoods be walkable has [48:03] to be walkable. In actuality. [48:04] If you get heat stroke, every [48:04] time you fly, walk somewhere, [48:07] it's not workable. In addition [48:08] to this many registering time [48:10] residents have no a c were [48:11] just one window unit for their [48:12] entire home. We also have a [48:14] lot of elderly residents and [48:14] we desperately need the tree [48:20] coverage. Allowing a 91% [48:21] reduction in green space and [48:22] demolition of 5 heritage [48:22] trees. Plus, countless other [48:23] smaller trees will have a [48:25] massive effect on these [48:27] issues. Saplings, no matter [48:28] how many simply cannot replace [48:29] the benefits offered by large [48:32] growth, trees. The city's own [48:33] infill housing guidelines, [48:33] specifically instruct that had [48:35] to treat be protected. The [48:36] standard is preservation, not [48:37] mitigation. Next slide. [48:42] Please. When we were asked [48:43] temps right to design around [48:44] these 100 plus year old trees. [48:44] We were told that it couldn't [48:46] be done. This is simply not [48:48] true. It projects like [48:49] single-family homes or [48:50] townhouses are were developed [48:51] here. They could easily be [48:54] saved. They have very shown [48:56] this picture has been growing [48:57] since before. Sometimes a part [48:59] of Indianapolis like some of [49:00] the homes on this lot. It [49:01] survived the great 1913, flood [49:02] and almost 5 string town off [49:05] the map. Next slide. Please. [49:07] The militia is not the only [49:08] option. There are several [49:08] homes being rehabbed currently [49:10] in string town. And here's [49:12] just one example from less [49:12] than a walk away. As you can [49:13] see, they had to rebuild [49:14] almost the entire structure. [49:15] They can be done. Next slide, [49:20] please. These are just a few [49:21] examples of homes that the [49:24] wcdc is built in the area. The [49:24] lower pictures on West [49:25] Washington, the higher one is [49:27] on north pushing. These are [49:28] affordable homes that were [49:29] built our area. It can be [49:33] done. Slide. Please. I won't [49:34] read everything here, but this [49:37] is a legal standard for any [49:38] other code title. 36, the [49:38] proposed development violates [49:39] every part of it. How much [49:40] just touch on a few points [49:45] next slide. Please. General [49:46] health and welfare. According [49:48] 2025 near West Health Impact [49:49] Assessment. We have a 40% [49:52] higher lung cancer rate. 28% [49:54] higher copd rate and 9% [49:55] higher. One cancer death rate [49:56] than the county average. We [49:59] need these heritage trees and [50:00] the infill housing guidelines [50:01] as preservation of significant [50:02] trees as direct community [50:03] health and welfare benefit. [50:06] Stepping down the height of [50:10] the building at site. Does not [50:10] make it the issues of how high [50:11] it something different. I [50:18] apologize. The impact on [50:19] adjacent property stepped on. [50:19] One side is not nullify the [50:20] public assets like the [50:21] protective you sheds that will [50:22] be obstructed. Not only will [50:24] the views of downtown skyline [50:26] be obstructed. This building [50:26] also block substantial amounts [50:27] of sunlight from the [50:28] surrounding properties as [50:31] well. Buildings and local [50:33] residential streets and Public [50:34] seltzer saucy and want the [50:34] most conservative height [50:38] restrictions. A violation. [50:38] Number 3, peculiar condition [50:40] of the land. There are. This [50:42] is a standard residential lot. [50:42] There are no particular [50:46] conditions. Violation for [50:48] unnecessary hardship. The only [50:48] hardship is that the developer [50:51] cannot build 241 units without [50:52] variants. That's a business [50:55] preference. Not a hardship. My [51:01] last slide. 6. Violation. [51:02] Number 5, the consistency with [51:03] the comprehensive plan. Every [51:04] layer of Indianapolis is [51:05] planning framework says no to [51:07] this development. The pattern [51:08] book recommends 5 to 15 units [51:08] per acre as well as the near [51:11] West. Near West Land use plan [51:13] recommending 8 to 15 this [51:18] project pros a 71. The [51:18] original center caps [51:19] residential density at 26 [51:20] units per acre. This project [51:21] is nearly 3 times that. Until [51:25] housing guidelines. State that [51:26] placing smaller homes next to [51:27] to significantly larger scale [51:29] structures reduces affordable [51:30] housing stock and limits [51:31] long-term residents ability to [51:32] say neighborhood. Addition to [51:33] this, we've been told that [51:38] next group. Hopes to have [51:39] short-term residents. They [51:40] want people have high turnover [51:41] rate which leads to more [51:42] people. Just neighbor has pass [51:46] through. And finally. Project [51:50] can do that contradicts all [51:51] standards. Considering these [51:52] matters. Become the request of [51:53] you deny the approval of this [51:54] project out right? Last slide, [51:59] please. Thank you for your [51:59] time. I'd like to finish with [52:00] a quote from the near West [52:03] Quality of life plan. The near [52:05] West Side clean treeline front [52:07] porch community with [52:08] affordable family homes, [52:09] either newly constructed to [52:10] compliment this Boulder [52:12] neighborhood restored to [52:13] preserve the natural wood [52:14] floors, glass windows and [52:15] other amenities of 100 year [52:16] old dwellings. Thank you for [52:21] your time. Questions for my [52:25] straighter just, you know, run [52:26] Yes, PRESIDENT Commissioner, [52:30] go ahead. You mention of [52:36] pattern book. Yes. Do you have [52:37] that pattern book? You have [52:40] reference to it. I'm We've I [52:41] believe of them to look into [52:54] it. [52:56] I only have a near West. [52:57] Thank you. Play with me today. [52:58] I can send an email leave it [53:01] on Page 16 of the land use [53:03] Trump. Remember from my [53:05] presented last time about a [53:05] month, totally fine. Have a [53:06] separate question for staff. [53:07] But just to know that it [53:08] exists is important. So thank [53:10] you for having reference to [53:10] it. I think that will come in [53:17] handy later. Thank you. Just [53:25] one. List here of. Police [53:29] calls, MR. What is it? Is it [53:31] to 16 could unions and [53:33] currents? 2, 1, 5, McLean is [53:37] the address there. Those are [53:38] just during that time, [53:39] obviously. When it was built [53:40] to, I believe last month got [53:41] those last 3 ok, thank you. [53:45] Course. Front of questions for [53:49] him. I'm sure. Thanks, Justin. [53:50] Standby will bring back of [54:03] queue. Councilor Welcome As i [54:04] said earlier. Thank you for [54:05] being with great advocate of [54:08] the mdc. We appreciate it. [54:09] Absolutely. Thank you. Kristin [54:11] Jones, 7.14, separate street, [54:12] Indianapolis, Indiana for 6, [54:13] 2, to one. Thank you. [54:14] PRESIDENT Done and [54:15] commissioners and thank you [54:17] for volunteering your time on [54:18] nbc Commission. I appreciate [54:22] your service to our city. As [54:25] you've we have supporters and [54:26] remind traitors and this is a [54:27] big decision that you have to [54:28] make before us. And we've [54:32] spent lots of time in our [54:32] neighborhood on this in this [54:36] came before us. And this is [54:37] not new to you. I spent lots [54:39] of time with my constituents [54:40] store, knocking, making phone [54:40] calls to find out what's [54:42] important to my community. So [54:45] when this came before me. The [54:47] project that is before you [54:48] today is not the project that [54:51] we started. Wes and the annex [54:55] group and Misha took a lot of [54:56] feedback and they've really [54:57] changed the project. And you, [55:00] as you've heard about crime, [55:02] for instance, the crime [55:04] situation. That's where that [55:05] impd with the fitness room [55:07] came. And so they had a crime [55:08] situation. And I heard lots of [55:12] feedback from my constituents [55:12] about crime. When I would door [55:14] knock and I would call and a [55:15] string town crime with crime [55:18] wasn't a situation. So that's [55:20] why I worked with impd and the [55:22] campus police to get a [55:23] presence and a string town [55:24] with the fitness room so is [55:25] mutually benefits beneficial [55:29] to the community and to the [55:30] police department. And so that [55:31] put a present. So the [55:32] situation that they're talking [55:33] about that's happening at the [55:34] other one we hope will not [55:36] happen. We're trying to find [55:40] situations that we can fix. So [55:40] when I'm talking to my [55:42] constituents and they said [55:43] parking is an issue. We worked [55:46] with annex group mitigate the [55:48] parking situation. So we [55:48] really worked hard over the [55:52] last 6 to 7 months talking to [55:53] the constituents, talking to [55:55] the folks to say, okay, what I [55:58] know. I understand that when [55:59] we bring in something like [56:01] this, this is going to be a [56:02] sacrifice. This is going to be [56:04] a strain on the residents. And [56:07] so how can we work with the [56:08] community benefits agreement [56:09] to get it in writing to come [56:10] before you so that you all can [56:14] hold them accountable. To help [56:16] the community have some sort [56:17] of benefit for the sacrifice [56:19] that they're gonna have to go [56:21] through. You know, whether [56:22] it's pave roads. We heard [56:24] about walkability soaps to get [56:26] some sidewalks to get some [56:27] alleys alleys when I'm walking [56:30] and I'm knocking doors, its [56:31] infrastructure, its [56:31] infrastructure, [56:32] infrastructure, infrastructure [56:35] that I hear about the most. So [56:36] for me, I'm talking about [56:37] alleys, its sidewalks, its [56:40] roads to get repaired. For [56:44] that financial component. I'm [56:45] not benefiting from that. [56:46] Frank. Staples isn't [56:47] benefiting from that. It's the [56:48] neighborhood. We heard that a [56:51] resident needs. Air [56:52] conditioners. Residents in [56:54] string towns that don't have [56:56] air conditioners. So that's [56:57] one thing that that money can [56:59] go back to directly into the [57:01] neighborhood to help those [57:04] residents, things that we take [57:05] for granted and help those [57:06] residents get some air [57:07] conditioners to get a real [57:10] fixed. That benefit is going [57:11] to go directly back into that [57:13] neighborhood to help those [57:15] residents. And so that's [57:16] something that I felt that we [57:17] were really I was really proud [57:18] of to help work with an x over [57:20] those last 6 months working [57:24] with that neighborhood to get [57:24] that in writing to come before [57:27] you to let you all hopefully [57:28] help us get those resources [57:30] for that neighborhood. And as [57:31] you all know, we have a [57:34] housing crisis in [57:35] Indianapolis. And so this is [57:35] this is something that we can [57:38] put on the map if you listen [57:40] to the hearing examiner [57:41] testimony, there was some very [57:44] offensive words said. Really [57:46] hurt my heart from the rim [57:46] months. Traitors, how they [57:48] felt about this project. I [57:50] certainly don't feel that way. [57:52] The other neighborhood [57:52] association does not feel that [57:53] way. The petitioner does not [57:55] feel that way. I feel this is [57:57] a good project. I feel it's [57:58] something that we can be very [58:02] proud of inner city. Really [58:04] humbly asking for your your [58:04] support because we worked [58:07] really hard. And I do know [58:08] it's a sacrifice for the [58:09] neighborhood, but I think the [58:12] community benefits agreement [58:12] will help ease some of that [58:13] pain that the construction is [58:15] going to be. And that [58:16] footprint is going to be. So [58:20] thank you very much. Questions [58:24] for counsel Jones for Yes, [58:25] president doing council Jones, [58:26] thank you for being Just a [58:29] couple of questions about the [58:30] other large-scale development [58:32] center in the general [58:33] vicinity. Yes, it looks like [58:36] there's one on 10th in White [58:37] River. There's word Michigan [58:40] Street in White River. So this [58:41] complained of crime. That's a [58:44] little further up. 2 words. [58:47] Belmont Beach area. What sort [58:50] of effect have you seen in the [58:51] closer apartment buildings to [58:54] this proposed development? So [58:56] what mean by effect. So you've [59:00] got 2 very large apartment [59:01] style developments in near [59:02] blocks away from this proposed [59:05] one. Different developers. I'm [59:09] sure. But are you seeing [59:11] increases in crime or any of [59:13] these other reports at the [59:14] closer ones to versus [59:15] complaining about a single [59:18] develop, it's just on my [59:19] district is a different [59:21] district line. However, that's [59:21] where that conversation [59:22] started. I went to the police [59:24] commander with that and I [59:26] said, how can we change this? [59:27] What can we do? There are the [59:29] situations within these [59:31] apartment complexes and how do [59:32] we change that? And one of the [59:34] things that I think you heard [59:35] about was security. So its [59:38] security getting into the [59:39] building, changing the way [59:41] that you have to have a key [59:42] fob to get into this. The [59:43] apartment it was the parking [59:44] was internal and then it was [59:46] police site. So if you see a [59:48] police car, whether they're on [59:50] duty or not in the presence [59:51] around the apartment complex [59:53] that just changes your [59:54] mentality, right? You're [59:54] probably not gonna commit a [59:55] crime. If you see a police car [59:56] and that's where the fitness [1:00:02] room. You came into play. And [1:00:04] so Commander Foley and I had [1:00:05] this conversation about [1:00:06] starting that process, he said [1:00:08] he'd seen at work in [1:00:09] different. So I started in a [1:00:10] different complex apartment in [1:00:12] a different area of my [1:00:13] district. And he said, let's [1:00:14] start doing this and let's see [1:00:15] if that helps. And so it's [1:00:17] just an idea that we had in [1:00:21] other areas of my district. [1:00:21] They're asking for police [1:00:23] presence with police cars and [1:00:24] were seen. I did in assisted [1:00:26] living on the east side of my [1:00:27] district and they said you [1:00:28] would not they're having [1:00:29] packages stolen and things [1:00:32] like that. And they Kristin, [1:00:33] you will not believe the [1:00:34] difference that it made just [1:00:36] by having a police car in the [1:00:38] parking lot. Things have [1:00:39] completely stopped. I can't [1:00:40] tell you about like those 2 [1:00:41] apartments just because I [1:00:42] don't have the same connection [1:00:44] because it is in my district. [1:00:45] But I can tell you for the [1:00:46] things that I've done, it is [1:00:48] completely change the [1:00:49] mentality. When you have a [1:00:53] police car in the presence in [1:00:54] that area, things to slow [1:00:57] down. And so that's we came. [1:00:58] We thought this will work. It [1:00:59] gives them the opportunity [1:01:02] they can go work out for and [1:01:03] then there's a place kind that [1:01:04] vicinity. Also then there's a [1:01:05] police officer in the [1:01:06] apartment building, right? [1:01:08] Even if they're off duty, they [1:01:09] still are in that apartment [1:01:09] building and also gives the [1:01:13] residents a sense of security, [1:01:14] ok, Ben, work. What are the [1:01:17] boundaries of your district? [1:01:18] Boundaries of my district. So [1:01:21] I go to I go to Troy ago, it [1:01:21] wavers over their Michigan. It [1:01:22] kind of goes up and down. But [1:01:26] I do go to Washington Street, [1:01:28] but I go a little bit north. I [1:01:29] do have stern coming to have a [1:01:29] little bit of Hahnville and [1:01:30] then I go all the way to the [1:01:31] criminal Justice Center go to [1:01:34] Belmont. So it's kind of like [1:01:34] triangle and I have one [1:01:36] precinct in Perry. Ok? Thank [1:01:41] Thank you. Questions for [1:01:42] counsel. Quick question, [1:01:48] please sure. You talked about [1:01:50] donation. For air [1:01:52] conditioners, repairs, things [1:01:53] like that to the neighbors. Is [1:01:54] there a plan in place or there [1:01:55] be some sort of plan in place [1:01:56] for the administration of [1:02:00] that? That would be the [1:02:01] neighborhood association. It [1:02:02] would go through the [1:02:03] neighborhood Association and [1:02:03] the have a plan in place. [1:02:04] Probably the most that would [1:02:05] not have anything. I will not [1:02:06] touch any money will have [1:02:07] anything to do with me. The [1:02:09] have a plan in place for that. [1:02:15] Thank you. Commissioners to [1:02:16] give that we have kind of to [1:02:17] neighborhood associations here [1:02:17] who would have been a straight [1:02:21] path. That they and we are. [1:02:22] The community benefits [1:02:23] agreement was made with the [1:02:23] string town Neighborhood [1:02:27] Association. Final questions [1:02:32] for counsel. Yeah, just one [1:02:33] additional one. There was a [1:02:37] mention about. The [1:02:39] communication timeline. So [1:02:40] with the string town now not [1:02:43] being communicated with in [1:02:46] this same sort of fashion or [1:02:48] poor timing the string Town [1:02:49] neighborhood Association was [1:02:50] communicated with. Can you [1:02:52] speak on why that occurred? So [1:02:56] I can tell you from my aspect. [1:02:56] So when say it broke off, [1:02:57] Stringtown now broke off from [1:02:58] String Town Neighborhood [1:03:00] Association. I made an effort [1:03:01] to reach out and have a [1:03:04] meeting with string town. Now, [1:03:06] folks and I had a time and a [1:03:07] place to meet with them to [1:03:08] continue the conversation [1:03:09] because I am the counselor. I [1:03:12] represent everyone. And we had [1:03:13] and meeting time and a place [1:03:14] like to continue those [1:03:16] conversations and they [1:03:16] canceled that and chose not to [1:03:17] continue the conversation with [1:03:24] me. So they have after. The [1:03:26] last meeting that we had, they [1:03:27] have reached out sense and I [1:03:28] have responded and hopefully [1:03:30] we'll get it back going again. [1:03:31] But they chose not to meet [1:03:33] with me. So that was not on my [1:03:41] aunt. But I cannot I can't for [1:03:41] the other drama that's going [1:03:42] on in the neighborhood. I [1:03:44] can't. Therefore, Kessler, [1:03:46] thank you for being here. [1:03:47] Absolutely. Appreciate your [1:03:48] testimony. Any other [1:03:49] questions? I think we're good. [1:03:55] Think it. Kathleen. Thank you, [1:03:57] PRESIDENT. Don't members of [1:03:59] the commission staff is [1:04:00] recommending approval of both [1:04:03] variances and the vacations [1:04:05] you'll frequently hear staff [1:04:06] reference to come. The [1:04:07] comprehensive plan and the [1:04:11] pattern book in this case this [1:04:15] area is under, has and MR. [1:04:17] We've been in which mentioned [1:04:17] it near West Side neighborhood [1:04:21] land use plan. There are [1:04:22] approximately 9 of those plans [1:04:25] that are scattered throughout [1:04:26] county. Those just for that [1:04:29] neighborhood, there's some [1:04:29] neighborhood plans. That's a [1:04:30] plan that we're looking at [1:04:33] now. It does not include the [1:04:36] pattern book because [1:04:38] frequently excuse me, those [1:04:39] plans. We'll include [1:04:43] development standards and [1:04:44] guidelines in those individual [1:04:47] plans. And again, this [1:04:49] particular location is not [1:04:52] located It is located within [1:04:55] one of those sub area plans, [1:04:56] which is the near West Side [1:04:58] neighborhood land use plan. [1:05:00] And I do know that staff works [1:05:01] very closely with [1:05:01] neighborhoods as they have [1:05:02] developed those plans. But [1:05:07] again. Becomes part of the [1:05:10] comprehensive plan, but it's [1:05:11] separate from the [1:05:12] comprehensive plan because a [1:05:18] specific for that area. The [1:05:21] reason staff again, they [1:05:22] staff's recommendations, as [1:05:25] you know, supports plans, [1:05:26] comprehensive plan in this [1:05:26] case. Staff is supportive of [1:05:27] that near West Side [1:05:31] neighborhood land use plan. [1:05:32] Has already talked about some [1:05:33] of those comments. It is in [1:05:37] the staff report that relates [1:05:38] to the reason for staff [1:05:40] support. It's right for a [1:05:44] shift in use. And because [1:05:46] you've got Washington Street, [1:05:48] you have you have the views [1:05:51] downtown. You have it up. Why? [1:05:52] And then you have the blue [1:05:52] line that is coming through [1:05:59] this area. The plans for this [1:06:00] neighborhood also identifies [1:06:01] the southern portion of this [1:06:02] site. And that's from the [1:06:06] alley to the South. As a [1:06:07] critical area. It talks about [1:06:10] mixed use a multi-family [1:06:11] residence and multi-family [1:06:12] structures rather than [1:06:13] subdividing of single-family [1:06:16] homes into numerous units. So [1:06:18] for these reasons, staff [1:06:20] believes and supports sent [1:06:20] this project would be [1:06:21] appropriate for this [1:06:23] neighborhood because it does [1:06:24] respond to that neighborhood [1:06:29] plan. Getting to of ak Shuns. [1:06:32] And I do want to clarify is [1:06:36] really excuse me. It is not. [1:06:40] There's an error there on the [1:06:42] notice or the description of [1:06:43] the vacation that says all was [1:06:44] a waiver of the assessment of [1:06:45] benefits that should be [1:06:47] stricken from that request [1:06:49] because the petitioners [1:06:49] representative, they've [1:06:53] already engaged. I an [1:06:54] appraisal of those alleys and [1:06:58] the value of those alleys. And [1:07:00] so it will be there will be an [1:07:03] assessment of benefits will be [1:07:06] required to be made in this [1:07:06] and a separate meeting to [1:07:09] follow this one. And there is [1:07:10] a motion an hour earlier at [1:07:10] reference Cent a minute. But [1:07:14] again. Some of these alleys [1:07:16] are not improved. Some have [1:07:18] improved. But in order for [1:07:20] this development to go forward [1:07:21] it will need the vacation of [1:07:25] those alleys. There is a at [1:07:26] staff is again recommending [1:07:29] approval of the vacation. [1:07:30] There is a motion on Page 17 [1:07:35] of the staff report and that's [1:07:36] recommended vacation motion. [1:07:37] And again, it talks about the [1:07:38] assessment of benefits that [1:07:42] will be heard in the fall away [1:07:43] in the meeting on JUNE 3rd. [1:07:44] That's what staff is looking [1:07:51] at. Questions for staff. [1:07:55] Welcome back to you, Kathleen. [1:08:03] This one. Can you help me [1:08:09] understand on Page 16? In the [1:08:10] height restriction variance, [1:08:15] request yes. Staff supports [1:08:17] the variance of development [1:08:18] standards for maximum height [1:08:20] of 50 feet. When ordinance and [1:08:21] d a limit to 35. That is [1:08:25] correct. And documents note a [1:08:28] reduction in the height to the [1:08:30] West. Would encourage [1:08:31] consideration of height [1:08:31] restrictions productions in [1:08:34] the North and South. Due to [1:08:35] proximity to existing dwelling [1:08:45] cs. Yes, on Page 19. Says new [1:08:47] building should be respectful [1:08:48] solidly single-family [1:08:49] residential street to the [1:08:50] north and east of the critical [1:08:55] area. And counselor, me should [1:08:58] mention the final bullet point [1:09:00] in his testimony earlier that [1:09:02] the area should take the form [1:09:04] of purpose-built multi-family [1:09:04] structures. Correct. As [1:09:07] mentioned here. He did not [1:09:11] mention that staffs statement [1:09:12] right above it says although [1:09:14] new structures will likely be [1:09:17] tall enough to take advantage [1:09:18] of use, the should not over [1:09:20] existing homes on saucy rising [1:09:22] there in Richmond Street. So [1:09:24] is it that they should not? [1:09:28] And that is. The question of [1:09:29] the height. Difference from 35 [1:09:33] to 50. Or is it on Page 16? Is [1:09:37] it? Says that. It's [1:09:38] encouragement of the [1:09:43] consideration. Thank you for [1:09:45] bringing that I would also [1:09:46] tonight neglected to mention [1:09:47] that this isn't an overly [1:09:49] district, a regional center [1:09:51] overlay. So there will be a [1:09:53] separate hearing on this [1:09:55] project for the regional [1:09:58] center approval. And yes, i [1:09:58] know they have been working. [1:10:01] I'm talking about staff the [1:10:02] incentives team has been [1:10:05] working with this developer, [1:10:06] too respect the neighborhood. [1:10:09] And that's why staff put in [1:10:10] there consideration of the [1:10:14] reduction of the height when [1:10:15] you're looking when it abuts [1:10:16] that neighborhood to north as [1:10:20] well as the south. So, yes, we [1:10:21] would like to it be integrated [1:10:24] into the neighborhood. But at [1:10:25] the same time, we also [1:10:28] understand that in order to [1:10:30] provide the service for [1:10:32] affordable housing that we do [1:10:33] need to have a height that is [1:10:33] going to allow for that [1:10:38] development. So, yes, we would [1:10:39] encourage it. But we also [1:10:42] understand that there is the [1:10:43] challenge of integrating it [1:10:46] into that neighborhood. I can [1:10:48] understand that there's a [1:10:50] tension there trying to [1:10:52] maximize square footage in [1:10:54] unit count and all of those [1:10:56] things. But I think my [1:10:57] question is you use the phrase [1:11:00] in the report and the [1:11:00] recommendations for critical [1:11:01] area number 9, that it should [1:11:03] not loom over the existing [1:11:05] home. That is correct. And if [1:11:08] that is perspective, I think [1:11:09] should not is a pretty clear [1:11:10] indication that that is what [1:11:13] should be respected. Yeah, not [1:11:15] merely an encouragement not to [1:11:17] do so well. And I believe that [1:11:18] that's why they are stepping [1:11:22] down the building there to the [1:11:24] West, Ari and but this is in [1:11:25] reference to north and West, [1:11:27] right? I understand that. But [1:11:29] that and that's why staff [1:11:30] would like to see that. That [1:11:32] should be considered as part [1:11:35] of the development of this. [1:11:37] This is as part of this [1:11:40] development in the building [1:11:40] architecture, it needs to [1:11:41] again to guests. Package [1:11:43] should not loom over those [1:11:45] residents there. That to along [1:11:46] that southern boundary as well [1:11:48] as that northern And I think [1:11:48] critically, if you look at the [1:11:54] map. This is not at a major [1:11:55] intersection as is the other 2 [1:11:56] development said a little bit [1:11:59] further up Mir blocks on Right [1:12:01] River Parkway. 16 tonight. [1:12:02] Michigan writes, I think even [1:12:02] with respect to that context, [1:12:06] dependent. If you're saying [1:12:08] should not loom over the homes [1:12:10] in a non commercial corridor [1:12:11] like happen, that makes more [1:12:12] sense for the building to be [1:12:15] step back further in the north [1:12:15] and south. Then it currently [1:12:20] presented. Versus it being a [1:12:21] mere recommendation. Yes. And [1:12:22] so I think there should there [1:12:23] should be some additional [1:12:23] conversation about what that [1:12:25] actually looks like in real [1:12:27] life because it doesn't feel [1:12:28] satisfactory here. Yeah, I [1:12:31] agree with that. And the and [1:12:33] that is why Seth, but that [1:12:35] that comment in there just [1:12:36] because we don't want we want [1:12:39] this to be integrated in there [1:12:40] and not loom over that the [1:12:43] neighborhood so we can. Yeah, [1:12:45] it stands currently. It is [1:12:46] not. So I just want to make [1:12:47] that mention, but thank you [1:12:48] for Iraq first. Well, and I do [1:12:49] want to say there will be [1:12:51] another level of review for [1:12:52] the regional center and the [1:12:53] neighborhood will be able to [1:12:55] engage in that. Herring. Also [1:12:58] understood. Thank you federal [1:13:01] questions for staff. Kathleen, [1:13:06] I have one confuse on the [1:13:12] Haitian motion. The language [1:13:14] says that a hearing up on [1:13:15] assessment of benefits to be [1:13:16] held on JUNE 3rd, 2026. Is [1:13:19] that still accurate? That is [1:13:19] correct. Okay. So we're still [1:13:22] yes. The recommended vacation [1:13:24] motion still in play? Yes, it [1:13:28] is. The appraisal of that [1:13:31] vacation has been submitted. [1:13:31] There's just a couple more [1:13:33] documents and need to be [1:13:34] submitted and a ribbon of [1:13:35] which is indicated that those [1:13:38] with we will be ready to go on [1:13:39] JUNE. The surge was the [1:13:40] assessment of benefits on [1:13:46] this. Thank you conclude with [1:13:47] staff is for this project. [1:13:47] Yes, Seth supports both sub [1:13:48] variants and the vacation [1:13:50] petition or you have 5 minutes [1:13:51] rebuttal. Nancy, please reset [1:13:55] the clock. I thank you, [1:13:56] PRESIDENT. Don't I do at this [1:14:00] point there were. Questions I [1:14:03] wanted address directly [1:14:03] Commissioner Lyle and [1:14:04] commissioner West. Both tests [1:14:06] think safety security was part [1:14:08] of that. And I want to [1:14:09] introduce Joyce get more from [1:14:12] an ex to talk about those 2 [1:14:13] issues. And then I want to get [1:14:18] to the kind of building scale. [1:14:20] Joyce, you've sworn in. Yes, [1:14:21] please introduce yourself and [1:14:25] your address. Choi Skidmore, [1:14:25] 86, 80 medicine Plaza drive [1:14:26] Fishers, Indiana for 6, 0, 3, [1:14:30] 8, And with the annex group. [1:14:32] Thank you. Members of the [1:14:32] Commissioner for allow [1:14:34] Commission for allowing us to [1:14:35] present today. I do want to [1:14:37] speak to the safety and we [1:14:38] certainly understand an echo [1:14:40] the concerns for union 16th [1:14:41] Street, however, did want to [1:14:42] point out that while these [1:14:43] projects are in close [1:14:46] proximity to each other, they [1:14:48] are 2 completely distinct [1:14:51] micro neighborhoods. Union [1:14:54] 16th is located along the 16th [1:14:55] Street corridor and at [1:14:55] Lafayette Road, which is much [1:14:57] higher crime rate in that [1:14:59] location. Then at string town [1:15:00] or within the string town [1:15:05] neighborhood. I know there was [1:15:06] concern on the comment I made [1:15:07] regarding, you know, lessons [1:15:11] learned this was one of our [1:15:12] first 3 projects was unit at [1:15:14] 16th Street. And since then, [1:15:19] we have. Developed 30 [1:15:20] successful developments that [1:15:22] are open and operating across [1:15:25] the United within, you know, [1:15:26] since then and and and [1:15:28] development of those 30 [1:15:30] operating properties. We've [1:15:32] learned that design is really, [1:15:32] really important to pay [1:15:33] attention to union. A 16th [1:15:36] street has open parking lots. [1:15:38] There is an amenity that is in [1:15:39] each and every building of the [1:15:40] 5 buildings on the site. So [1:15:42] the man and amenities Arce [1:15:43] spread out across the site, [1:15:44] which makes it extremely [1:15:46] difficult. Our management team [1:15:48] to make sure that they're [1:15:48] policing those areas. And also [1:15:52] police in the parking lot. So [1:15:53] this design being one building [1:15:54] was controlled parking [1:15:57] internal to the site that will [1:16:00] be gated parking. Also gated 5 [1:16:01] access into the building. All [1:16:02] of those things are those [1:16:02] lessons learned that I [1:16:08] mentioned. As I said, next [1:16:09] group has grown quite a bit [1:16:11] since unit at 16th Street. [1:16:13] We've learned had a better [1:16:13] operator properties. We are [1:16:16] working closely with impd on [1:16:17] union a 16th street. We [1:16:17] understand it's a problem in [1:16:19] our property management team [1:16:20] is all over it trying to [1:16:21] figure out a solution. 2 of [1:16:24] the problems that are there. I [1:16:26] also want to speak to the high [1:16:27] turnover rate comment. Yes, I [1:16:29] did make that comment. Our [1:16:30] goal at the annex group is to [1:16:32] make a positive impact on the [1:16:33] people that live work and are [1:16:34] involved in our communities [1:16:37] that positive impact includes [1:16:38] making sure we're trying to [1:16:39] ensure that maybe our [1:16:42] residents don't qualify to [1:16:44] live in low-income housing any [1:16:46] longer because we've helped [1:16:46] them become successful. We've [1:16:47] helped them make more money [1:16:49] help them better. Their [1:16:51] situation so that they no [1:16:53] longer can income qualify and [1:16:54] they can go live in market [1:16:55] rate communities for own their [1:16:56] own home. So that is our goal [1:17:02] at the annex group. So [1:17:04] commissioner, while used or [1:17:06] tension and it was a good [1:17:07] because there is that there is [1:17:08] a tension. There's a tension [1:17:12] between bringing density and [1:17:14] what's necessary to support [1:17:15] affordable housing, project [1:17:21] like this one. Trying to be [1:17:23] sensitive the existing single [1:17:24] family residential israels. [1:17:27] The property. There's also the [1:17:29] uniqueness of this site along [1:17:33] the White River where you have [1:17:35] a reason to have some height [1:17:36] along the east. I think these [1:17:38] are recognize that. But you [1:17:42] have on the north at least and [1:17:43] the south, some single family [1:17:44] residential that that's had a [1:17:48] lower height. What we [1:17:49] originally started this [1:17:52] project and what mre or cannot [1:17:53] remember this because it was [1:17:55] so long ago actually had a 5 [1:17:59] story building. And it was [1:18:02] staff's feedback to us that. [1:18:05] Bring the hike down on the [1:18:07] west where you have the most [1:18:12] single family. Reduce the [1:18:14] height on the east as much as [1:18:16] you can. And that's what we've [1:18:19] done. I can tell you that as I [1:18:21] started, you have to have a [1:18:22] certain amount of density to [1:18:23] support affordable housing [1:18:27] project. And we're at the [1:18:29] we're as thin as you can get. [1:18:31] So we talk with staff about [1:18:35] working as hard as we can on [1:18:36] modifications to the [1:18:37] architecture, the building to [1:18:38] try to bring the scaled down a [1:18:40] bit. And we will continue to [1:18:41] have those conversations with [1:18:42] staff. As Kathleen indicated, [1:18:45] we have to go through the [1:18:45] regional center approval [1:18:48] process. And so there is check [1:18:50] and balance or an accounting [1:18:54] accounting on for that. But [1:18:56] I'm telling you to bring in [1:18:56] affordable housing. Thank [1:18:58] Council your time to have that [1:19:04] questions for the petitioner. [1:19:04] Final questions for the [1:19:07] petitioner. Hearing. None. [1:19:10] Thank you, counselor Monster [1:19:10] Jesse of 5 minutes for [1:19:15] rebuttal. Please reintroduce [1:19:18] yourself and go. Thank Jessi [1:19:21] bomb 3, 3, 4 North elder Reza [1:19:23] presenting Stringtown Now [1:19:24] Neighborhood Association. I [1:19:25] want to note a few things that [1:19:28] came up during the questions, [1:19:30] the proximity to the zoo and [1:19:31] it I wouldn't. And I would [1:19:32] just like to note that the [1:19:34] land is on was formerly [1:19:36] stringtown. We were had 70 [1:19:37] acres of homes taken when the [1:19:39] zoo was built and the rope was [1:19:40] moved. So we've already lost a [1:19:41] substantial chunk of our [1:19:43] neighborhood and referenced. I [1:19:44] up why we all know the ransom [1:19:45] place used to be a [1:19:46] neighborhood that existed [1:19:47] there, chipping away at our [1:19:49] neighborhood will result in [1:19:52] the same end goal. Our [1:19:53] neighborhood is not a blank [1:19:53] slate for someone else's [1:19:57] dreams. Density need for [1:19:58] affordable housing does not [1:19:59] negate that we are [1:20:00] neighborhood that deserves to [1:20:03] be treated with respect and [1:20:04] again, we are poor and working [1:20:06] class community. We're not [1:20:07] against affordable housing. [1:20:08] We're not against density were [1:20:09] not spreading buildings. Given [1:20:10] many examples of what we [1:20:14] absolutely fine with us. In [1:20:15] terms of joy saying that it's [1:20:16] completely different [1:20:16] neighborhood unit. 16th. I [1:20:19] mean, that's kind of [1:20:20] interesting because councilor [1:20:21] John said that other areas of [1:20:24] her district having police [1:20:24] come on their off time works. [1:20:26] So why does not apply one [1:20:28] person but not the other? So [1:20:29] it's a different place, [1:20:30] different place, different [1:20:33] things I would also say that [1:20:36] in reference to that it that [1:20:37] safety plan relies on the idea [1:20:38] that police officers come [1:20:38] there and their off time. What [1:20:41] if they don't? They have no [1:20:46] requirement to. And I also. If [1:20:47] they're working out, are they [1:20:48] supposed to stop a crime in [1:20:50] the middle of doing reps or [1:20:50] just in that kind of an [1:20:56] interesting situation? In [1:20:56] terms of what counselor John [1:20:58] said about our meeting was not [1:20:58] with me was with another [1:21:01] person in my group. Addition [1:21:02] to that, it was canceled due [1:21:04] to scheduling and was just [1:21:05] never rescheduled. She knew [1:21:06] that we are neighborhood [1:21:07] association at existing is [1:21:08] active in the neighborhood. [1:21:09] And again, we are registered [1:21:10] with the city. There's no [1:21:10] reason we should have been [1:21:11] left out of those [1:21:12] conversations. And I do [1:21:15] actually have a timeline. With [1:21:16] Christine Jones DECEMBER 8th [1:21:18] was the first one, with [1:21:21] planning staff DECEMBER 16th [1:21:22] meeting with String Town [1:21:23] Neighborhood Association and [1:21:25] counselor Jones DECEMBER 22nd [1:21:26] meeting with String Town [1:21:27] Neighborhood Association [1:21:31] Council Jones MARCH 10th. And [1:21:32] then the meeting, the String [1:21:33] town neighborhood [1:21:35] associations, APRIL 13th. By [1:21:35] that point, Christian Jones [1:21:36] had already written her a [1:21:37] letter of support and [1:21:39] submitted it. So when was this [1:21:40] community engagement for to [1:21:45] happen? In addition to no one [1:21:46] besides string town now should [1:21:48] strengthen the Association [1:21:50] requested money or a shed. We [1:21:52] don't want those things. We [1:21:56] want our neighborhood. Last [1:22:02] thing. I want to just remind [1:22:04] everyone that we again, her [1:22:05] not to get posed to [1:22:06] multi-family housing. We're [1:22:08] not opposed to new neighbors. [1:22:09] We're not opposed anything [1:22:10] like that. We just want things [1:22:11] that fit into a neighborhood. [1:22:12] It makes sense. Don't harm us [1:22:14] in terms of traffic, more [1:22:19] money or pollution. Thank you. [1:22:24] Questions for Monster. Thank [1:22:27] you, Jesse. Thank much. [1:22:29] Members of the commission go [1:22:29] your ballot and as you go to [1:22:33] your ballots. Under statute, [1:22:34] I'm going to read in the first [1:22:37] motion for vacation. Which is [1:22:46] a new year. 2026. Cvc 803. The [1:22:48] Metropolitan Development [1:22:49] Commission's find the proposed [1:22:52] vacations are in the public [1:22:53] interest that hearing up on [1:22:54] the assessment of benefits to [1:22:57] be held on JUNE 3rd, 2026. [1:22:58] That the Metropolitan [1:22:59] Development Commission come [1:23:01] from ratify the adoption of [1:23:06] the declaratory resolution [1:23:10] 2026. Cvc 803. And that the [1:23:10] vacation be subject to the [1:23:13] rights of public utilities [1:23:18] under I see 36 dash, 7 dash 3 [1:23:19] dash 16, MR. Robinson Cano his [1:23:23] second. Thank you. Go to your [1:23:26] ballots. You have 2 votes. On [1:23:27] the variants, one of the [1:23:41] vacation. [1:24:55] Chris, we have the [1:24:56] companion variance 2026 ebr [1:25:08] 803. There to Ix. There are 8 [1:25:11] ballots cast. And there were [1:25:17] 7. Yes, cheese be. There were [1:25:19] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, yes votes. [1:25:26] One, no vote. And one recusal. [1:25:26] This petition has been [1:25:32] approved. The next petition is [1:25:36] companion vacation 2026 e d c [1:25:38] 803. In Mendon. Again, there [1:25:40] were 8 ballots. There were 1, [1:25:44] 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, yes votes. One, [1:25:46] no vote. And one recusal. This [1:25:47] petition has also been [1:25:50] improved. The petition has [1:25:53] been passed. Thank you for a [1:25:55] revised participation. Please [1:25:56] leave quietly. Nancy, can you [1:25:56] read the next hearing into the [1:26:06] record? Yes, Thank next [1:26:07] petitions for public hearing [1:26:08] or a Senate companion [1:26:09] petitions transfer from the [1:26:13] hearing examiner for an [1:26:16] initial hearing 2026 easy in [1:26:19] 8, 1, 4, 2026. Ebr 8, 1, 4, [1:26:24] 14. 38 East Washington street. [1:26:25] Senate Township Council [1:26:26] District, 13 Damian Center [1:26:29] incorporated by Joseph t [1:26:30] called run, requesting [1:26:36] rezoning 0.3, 8, 9, acre from [1:26:36] the him. You won t o d and ut [1:26:39] him. You too. T od districts. [1:26:43] 2 they Di d district for [1:26:45] immediate apartment [1:26:46] development also requesting a [1:26:48] variance to development [1:26:48] standards of the Consolidated [1:26:49] Zoning subdivision ordinance [1:26:52] to provide for 10 parking [1:26:53] spaces. Inman minimum of 21 [1:26:57] parking spaces required. Well, [1:26:58] all those intended to testify [1:27:00] on these petitions this [1:27:01] afternoon, either for or [1:27:02] against anybody else going to [1:27:04] speak and testify. Please [1:27:07] stand now released major, why [1:27:10] hands and police Thank you. Do [1:27:13] you swear or affirm and [1:27:13] openai's uprooting to tell the [1:27:14] truth and nothing. But the [1:27:19] truth I do. Thank you. [1:27:20] Councilor welcome. Let me walk [1:27:21] through the rules of [1:27:22] engagement. I do not see any [1:27:22] reminds traders here. Is that [1:27:27] correct? Council will give you [1:27:28] 15 minutes to present. The [1:27:31] petition case. Thank you all. [1:27:32] Then again, ask for reminds [1:27:34] traders. I don't see any I [1:27:35] will then go to staff. I also [1:27:39] don't see any city council [1:27:40] members here come back to you [1:27:40] for any rebuttal that's [1:27:43] necessary. And then take a [1:27:47] vote. You're on the clock [1:27:48] Thank you. Good afternoon. [1:27:50] PRESIDENT Dylan members of the [1:27:52] commission show called or [1:27:53] attorney with offices at 11 [1:27:56] South Meridian here in [1:27:58] Indianapolis. And I'm proud [1:27:59] today to present behalf of the [1:28:01] Damian Center Anke. Truly one [1:28:07] of the shining jewels and our [1:28:08] not for profit world providing [1:28:09] important services to our [1:28:13] community. And this case [1:28:17] relates directly to their [1:28:18] ability and their mission to [1:28:20] do that. I had not realized [1:28:22] until got engaged that amongst [1:28:24] other things. The Damian [1:28:27] Center does. It does have [1:28:30] housing component in terms of [1:28:31] offering services for those [1:28:33] who need it within that [1:28:36] community in that population, [1:28:38] clients that they serve. So [1:28:43] the Damian Center, it's a [1:28:44] petitioner in this matter. We [1:28:46] are here today very similarly [1:28:47] to the last case because this [1:28:51] is a matter that we'll be [1:28:56] going before the I-8 cda in [1:28:59] JULY. So we we had asked the [1:29:00] hearing examiner and staff if [1:29:02] they would support a direct [1:29:03] transfer of this case to the [1:29:07] mdc so that we could meet. I [1:29:12] see deadlines and this enabled [1:29:14] us to appear before you today [1:29:15] and potentially get in front [1:29:16] of City County Council for [1:29:19] their meeting in JUNE. What [1:29:25] we're proposing today and I do [1:29:26] have Alan Witchy and Alexandra [1:29:27] under from Damian Center here [1:29:31] is well as the developer [1:29:33] recounts in the lane. A color [1:29:34] from a okay development that [1:29:38] are here to answer questions. [1:29:39] I got pulled into kind of [1:29:44] early part of the spring. And [1:29:45] already been conversations [1:29:47] initiated between the [1:29:51] development team and staff. [1:29:51] And as you probably heard [1:29:56] Nancy Reed. The case into [1:29:59] record, the site u One and u 2 [1:30:04] zoning. The project that we're [1:30:06] proposing today is not a mixed [1:30:06] use project. It's a housing [1:30:10] project that would provide 39 [1:30:11] to 42 units of permanent [1:30:16] supportive housing. So we [1:30:16] didn't really need to. You [1:30:20] want you too? In talking with [1:30:23] planning staff? We asked what [1:30:24] would be the most appropriate [1:30:25] zoning classifications because [1:30:28] frankly, this type of building [1:30:31] and fit in any one of a number [1:30:32] of zoning classifications. And [1:30:34] the response was ball. [1:30:35] Whatever is going to generate [1:30:37] the less least amount of [1:30:38] variances. So with this [1:30:41] particular project, we believe [1:30:43] that we can get this done with [1:30:43] only one variance request and [1:30:47] that is for parking spaces. [1:30:48] But frankly, because we're [1:30:52] right on the blue line and so [1:30:54] close to downtown and services [1:30:56] are parking demand for this [1:31:00] project is not significant for [1:31:01] those of you who are not [1:31:03] familiar with the site, it's [1:31:05] just a little bit more than a [1:31:07] mile east of where we are [1:31:08] today on east Washington [1:31:10] Street right next to kind of [1:31:11] the beautiful new building [1:31:14] that in Centreville. That [1:31:18] Oriental and Washington, this [1:31:20] particular parcel, which is [1:31:22] partially improved. It is [1:31:23] located closer to Arsenal. [1:31:24] There's coffee shop of the [1:31:24] corner of Arsenal. Washington. [1:31:29] So you can see that kind of [1:31:30] flag didn't have one on the [1:31:36] aerial. Tattoos. Just a zoning [1:31:39] map which shows kind of the Mu [1:31:40] one. And m u 2 zoning [1:31:43] classifications for the site. [1:31:44] There's a variety of [1:31:46] commercial even industrial [1:31:47] mixed use and residential all [1:31:51] in the area. What you might [1:31:53] expect, it's highly urbanized [1:31:56] and lots of a variety of [1:31:58] different uses along this part [1:32:00] of the corridor. Now, the [1:32:00] interesting thing for you [1:32:01] guys, as decision makers to [1:32:03] know is that what we're [1:32:07] proposing is really right down [1:32:09] the middle of the plate. As [1:32:12] far as the comprehensive plan [1:32:13] is concerned and that he owed [1:32:14] the plan, which does want to [1:32:18] drive higher density type [1:32:20] housing, even though we have [1:32:21] 39 42 units were only on 4 [1:32:22] tenths of an acre. So. This is [1:32:27] kind of that development that [1:32:28] both that he od and the [1:32:29] existing conference of plan [1:32:32] for urban next use calls for [1:32:33] and we're very grateful to [1:32:35] have staff support. If you [1:32:38] turn to tab 3, 4, you can kind [1:32:39] of see our site plan that we [1:32:43] filed. Which shows an urban [1:32:47] setting. Pull with the [1:32:50] building, pulled up to the [1:32:51] close of the building line and [1:32:54] sidewalk line as well as the [1:32:56] parking in the back. So that [1:32:57] is going to be the emphasis [1:32:59] will be on building and not [1:33:05] parking. The. Plan. Immedately [1:33:09] is not fully developed like [1:33:13] the last plan presented was [1:33:14] because this is kind of an [1:33:17] evolving project. Now. The [1:33:18] built-in protection that you [1:33:22] have. As far as the commission [1:33:24] is concerned with regards our [1:33:28] plans, if you turn to tab 5 [1:33:28] staff was gracious enough to [1:33:31] allow us to commit to [1:33:35] submitting final site plan and [1:33:36] building elevations 2 at 4 [1:33:37] minutes. Traders approval [1:33:41] before we get permit. Lp, I [1:33:42] should say, for the project [1:33:44] and then the second commitment [1:33:46] which you can find it 5 [1:33:48] relates to the fact that [1:33:50] because such a tight [1:33:52] environment with sidewalk and [1:33:53] building pulled right up to [1:33:55] Washington Street. Plus [1:33:59] Washington Street undergoing [1:34:02] changes as the transit [1:34:04] stations are being [1:34:04] implemented. Utility [1:34:07] relocation, a whole host of [1:34:10] things. We have agreed to work [1:34:11] with dpw on creating a [1:34:12] pedestrian safety plan that [1:34:14] would be implemented [1:34:17] throughout the period of [1:34:17] construction along East [1:34:19] Washington Street in that [1:34:21] area. For those of you who are [1:34:22] not familiar with the kind of [1:34:26] the existing conditions on [1:34:27] this section of Washington [1:34:31] Street Tab. 6 has a number of [1:34:35] a street photos beginning with [1:34:36] the building and question as [1:34:38] well as the lot that would be [1:34:39] developed as part of this [1:34:40] project. But what I really [1:34:42] want to turn to you, your [1:34:44] attention to is the second [1:34:49] photo and tab 6. And that's [1:34:50] the newly completed Davion [1:34:51] Center building. You can see [1:34:54] the high quality materials, [1:34:54] the beautiful architecture, [1:34:57] and that's really what you're [1:34:58] going to be able to expect [1:35:01] with this project. This is [1:35:02] campus that Damian Centers [1:35:06] created. This will help fill [1:35:08] that out a little bit. And [1:35:11] we're very grateful to [1:35:13] engagement with Holy Cross [1:35:15] Neighborhood Council Brown did [1:35:15] email me and said he was [1:35:18] supportive of the project. He [1:35:19] wanted to hear from Holy [1:35:21] Cross. And I know that that [1:35:22] Allen, which he had met with [1:35:25] them doesn't we don't have a [1:35:26] letter from a lacrosse, but he [1:35:29] assures me that we do have [1:35:31] their support. There was [1:35:33] another e-mail that I think [1:35:34] was sent to staff that is in [1:35:36] the file. So as you notice, we [1:35:37] don't have any room on [1:35:37] straight ers. We believe we [1:35:40] have pretty comprehensive [1:35:42] support, including that from [1:35:43] your staff. Happy to answer [1:35:43] any questions you MAY have. [1:35:47] Thank you. Questions for the [1:35:48] petitioner as general [1:35:54] contractor been selected. Yes. [1:35:55] Well, if you sign not the [1:35:56] contractor, we just have the [1:35:58] developer. Please come to the [1:36:01] podium, sir. Please introduce [1:36:04] yourself or your address. My [1:36:06] name is Allen, which she [1:36:07] presidency of Gaming Center. [1:36:09] My home address is 6, 8, 0, 4, [1:36:10] Kirkwood. Thanks, Ellen. You [1:36:14] were duly sworn yes, thank We [1:36:14] have not selected a general [1:36:18] contractor yet. We do have a [1:36:19] developing part, a developer [1:36:19] partner and we have an [1:36:31] architect. Other questions, [1:36:32] please just one simple [1:36:35] question PRESIDENT Doing. The [1:36:37] current building that stands [1:36:39] is not to be demolished. It [1:36:42] has to be is us okay. That [1:36:42] wasn't. Thank Thank you so [1:36:56] much. On second counts. [1:36:59] Questions for petitioner by [1:37:06] good. Staff. Thank you. [1:37:07] PRESIDENT Dylan members of the [1:37:08] commission's staff is [1:37:09] supporting this. And again, [1:37:10] I'm bringing in the [1:37:10] comprehensive plan [1:37:12] Reccomendation a village mixed [1:37:15] use. The other planned falls [1:37:16] and here is the tld strategic [1:37:20] plan. And staff believes that [1:37:24] this project is is compliant [1:37:26] and allies with both of those [1:37:27] plans and getting back to the [1:37:31] comprehensive plans. As you [1:37:32] know. And Commissioner Lyle is [1:37:34] brought up. There's a pattern [1:37:37] book and on page, 49 of the [1:37:38] staff report, it talks about [1:37:39] those development standards [1:37:42] that are recommended their [1:37:44] guidelines and recommendations [1:37:45] for development. In addition [1:37:49] to that on Page 50, there are [1:37:50] also some additional the devil [1:37:51] out development stands that [1:37:55] are included in the dod plan [1:38:00] for this. For this area of [1:38:06] over lie. And again, the staff [1:38:07] believe this is is appropriate [1:38:10] for this. And make my comments [1:38:11] very brief. And if you have [1:38:13] any questions. Questions for [1:38:18] staff. Commissioner Rob Son. [1:38:18] And you still want the [1:38:22] commitments that you have here [1:38:24] on Yes. Thank you for [1:38:25] reminding me that yes, staff [1:38:26] is recommending approval [1:38:26] subject to those 2 [1:38:29] commitments. So thank you. [1:38:30] Other questions from Members [1:38:33] of Commission. Thank you, [1:38:34] Commissioner Robinson for [1:38:36] pointing that out. Councilor [1:38:41] rebuttal. No rebuttal [1:38:43] PRESIDENT Bill. And just for [1:38:43] the commission's benefit. [1:38:45] Damian senators already signed [1:38:46] the commitments and tender [1:38:49] them. So we're good to go on [1:38:52] that front. We're appreciative [1:38:52] the time today and your [1:38:55] consideration. Thank you. In a [1:38:57] records show, there were on [1:38:58] strangers. Members of the [1:39:00] commission. Please go to your [1:39:01] do about one for rezoning one [1:39:16] for variants. [1:40:04] 2026. Easy. And [1:40:06] 8, 1, 4, which a rezoning [1:40:07] petition. There were 8 ballots [1:40:10] cast. 8, yes votes. This [1:40:13] petition has been approved. [1:40:16] And then for the companion [1:40:17] variant Strategy, 6 ev or 8, [1:40:17] 1, 4, Again, there are 8 [1:40:22] balance casts. Yes votes. This [1:40:22] petition has also been [1:40:25] improved. PRESIDENT Today, [1:40:32] come back up, please, You're [1:40:33] from has a great reputation. [1:40:35] Do a great job in this [1:40:36] project, the neighborhood [1:40:38] really needs So we appreciate [1:40:39] your extra eye on it, but [1:40:40] thank you for You're doing in [1:40:42] the community. He has been [1:40:44] great. Thank you. Take care, [1:40:46] Congratulations on a crew. [1:40:48] Thank you. Appreciate everyone [1:40:53] around. Can I get a motion to [1:40:54] So moved everyone. Enjoy the [1:40:57] Memorial Day weekend and let's [1:40:58] hope it doesn't rain as much