[0:01] making fun of Buffalo. Lot. [0:08] >> Good evening and welcome [0:09] everybody. It is time to kick [0:09] off the city of Jacksonville [0:14] City Council meeting today for [0:16] 1/13/2026 is 05:00pm on the [0:18] dot. And I'd like to welcome [0:21] everyone back from the New [0:21] Year and man of few words, [0:22] I'll turn over to the floor [0:25] later. Thank you, MR. [0:26] PRESIDENT, Happy New Year for [0:27] story. Businesses, the [0:27] invocation and pledge please [0:28] recognize or council Chaplain [0:31] Councilmember Kevin Maher. [0:32] >> Thank you, MR. Floor [0:32] leader. Happy New Year to [0:37] everyone well. Tonight our [0:39] invocation is being delivered [0:40] by ac Sanders. He's in a bit [0:43] native of Jacksonville and a [0:44] proud graduate of William [0:49] rains, plants of 79. Also the [0:54] 2025 class 3, a state football [0:58] champions pt Bond. Ac is also [1:01] a graduate. And 4 year [1:02] Letterman and team captain in [1:02] basketball for the University [1:05] of New Orleans and Louisiana. [1:06] He is the owner of a see [1:08] Sanders insurance agency for [1:12] the past. 33 years, member of [1:13] the Arlington Church of Christ [1:17] for the past 38 years with 20 [1:19] of those years spent as the [1:21] church's pastor ac loves the [1:22] city of Jacksonville and [1:25] enjoys promoting the city and [1:26] every place he has had the [1:28] pleasure of visiting. Please [1:35] receive pastor ac centers. [1:36] >> I give the indication on [1:38] tonight, I had a thought. I [1:42] thought that. You the chamber [1:46] before us. Put your name and [1:52] reputation. You represent your [1:55] districts. That's Carrie. [1:59] That's very important. Each [1:59] one of these wonderful [2:02] citizens behind me. Here [2:06] tonight because they care. [2:06] They could have done many [2:09] things tonight. But they have [2:13] chosen to be here to speak. [2:15] Whether in support of [2:18] opposition, it really doesn't [2:19] matter what truly matters is [2:20] that everyone in this room [2:25] cares. Whenever you have [2:26] indifference, that's mean you [2:29] are As long as we have people [2:32] who care. We're willing to put [2:35] forth their efforts. And come [2:39] to make us a better city. To [2:40] give us results, but not just [2:41] results. The very best [2:42] results. Then I say they can [2:46] thrive. So to GOD, be the [2:46] glory for all that has been [2:48] done. All that is here [2:49] tonight. We thank you so much. [2:51] Let's go to our the in prayer. [2:55] Please. Most Tony righteous in [2:56] the back father, which are in [3:00] it. Father. We it throne of [3:01] grace. We give. Thanks you [3:01] once again for being a great [3:04] guy that you are. No one has [3:07] left us like you. No one has [3:10] treated us better than you. [3:13] You are the great I am. And [3:17] for that, we are thankful. [3:18] With thankful for every [3:19] blessing that you have given [3:20] us. You have blessed us to be [3:22] in the greatest country ever [3:25] been in existence. Best that [3:25] you bless us to be in a great [3:29] city. And so father, we thank [3:30] you again for the collection [3:33] of people that we have in this [3:34] city. Thriving to be the very [3:36] best that we can be. We thank [3:38] you again for your mercy. We [3:40] thank you for your kindness. [3:41] We thank you for your long [3:44] suffering. But most of all, [3:45] with think before you son [3:48] Jesus Christ, our Lord. Who [3:50] came down to this earth to [3:51] down across with a sense of [3:51] the world know greatest [3:54] sacrifice has ever been given. [3:55] So that we say thank you. [3:56] Thank you for your power [3:57] forward that we have. Thank [3:59] you for your son church. They [4:02] died for. My father as we [4:04] prepare to hear from one [4:06] another. Bless us and [4:09] thoughts. Bless us. In our [4:12] words. Bless us. And I respect [4:16] for one another. Knowing [4:18] father that you are sitting [4:18] high above and you hear all [4:22] things. So bless us again to [4:22] speak. Those things that will [4:25] be helpful to all. Thank you [4:27] again for this great chamber. [4:29] Thank you for this opportunity [4:30] to call in your Holy name. [4:32] Before we begin. Thank you [4:33] again for the great citizens [4:35] stats rest behind me that you [4:38] are blessed. Father. We do [4:38] love you, but we know that you [4:40] love. That's even more. And [4:41] again, for that, we say thank [4:46] you. Give us about help us be [4:47] more like your son, Jesus. [4:49] Every day about lies. What is [4:50] impressive name of Jesus [4:51] Christ. Our Lord. Save that. [4:56] We do pray a I pledge [5:02] allegiance. [5:08] >> And Well, got and this is [5:15] with the for all. [5:16] >> All right. Floor leader, I [5:17] think we're going to roll [5:31] call. [5:49] He team present. All [5:50] right. Thank you for that. We [5:51] have a couple quick [5:52] announcements, one from the [5:53] floor leader about next week's [5:54] schedule and update from jta [5:57] from our Liaison Ducks [5:57] Johnson. [5:58] >> Yes, MR. PRESIDENT reminder [5:59] to our colleagues and everyone [6:01] here next week because of the [6:01] Martin Luther King junior [6:03] holiday on Monday committees [6:04] will be shifted one day to the [6:05] Rice will have neighborhoods [6:08] and rules on Tuesday to you [6:09] finance until you see on [6:10] Wednesday. Thank you, MR. [6:11] Floor, Leader, Ducks Johnson. [6:12] You're recognized. Thank you, [6:13] MR. PRESIDENT, I will keep [6:14] this brief over the last [6:15] several days. My phone inbox [6:17] have been 4 with one clear [6:17] message. [6:18] >> That connection plus [6:20] matters. And this is for the [6:22] community. The service is an [6:22] inconvenient. It's a lifeline [6:24] for residents with [6:25] disabilities who depend on [6:27] this service. And as the [6:28] council liaison, I didn't just [6:30] to hear those concerns. I [6:32] showed up attended community [6:32] meetings even one last night [6:34] that lasted about 3 hours over [6:36] jta where we listen to [6:37] questions. But one thing I [6:38] want to say is leadership is [6:39] about responsibility. I will [6:43] say that I here the residents, [6:44] I hear the emails and see the [6:45] emails coming through [6:49] connection. Plus, it does work [6:50] and jta is changing the scope [6:51] of it, but they will not be [6:52] getting rid of connection. [6:53] Plus and I wanted to make sure [6:55] that we understood that [6:57] there's going to be a pilot [7:00] going on for 6 months with sub [7:00] out with a valuation. I will [7:01] admit some steps from what I [7:03] saw. Mistakes were made. But [7:05] what jta doing is trying to [7:07] rectify that. So you can find [7:08] out any information from jta [7:10] Fla Dot com and they'll be [7:11] coming to present to the [7:13] Transportation Committee on [7:14] next week. Thank you, MR. [7:15] PRESIDENT. All right. Thank [7:16] you, DR. Johnson missed for [7:18] later. Thank u next up is [7:19] approval. The minutes from the [7:19] regular council meeting a [7:22] DECEMBER 9th and move the [7:22] approval. [7:23] >> We've got a motion in [7:25] second on the minutes, all in [7:26] favor signify by saying Aye, [7:27] aye. The minutes are proving [7:28] excuse me. Anyone oppose. The [7:31] minutes are approved. [7:32] >> Let's present. We have some [7:33] communications from the [7:34] mayor's office and others. [7:34] Would you like to read or 5 [7:35] with legislative and get those [7:39] very well, sir. We have one [7:40] presentation tonight and [7:41] that's the 2025 Office of [7:44] Inspector General annual [7:48] report ir inspector general at [7:48] La Salle Muscle Cell. We're [7:49] going to give you a 10 minutes [7:55] for this presentation. Good [7:55] evening, at La Salle inspector [7:58] General. See Jacksonville, MR. [7:59] And I said our half of this [8:00] presentation rock on know, [8:03] right? All condenses into [8:05] about 5 minutes worth of quick [8:06] comments, first and foremost, [8:08] like to thank the council and [8:09] the mayor's office for their [8:09] continued cooperation [8:12] throughout the year. From the [8:12] spectrum perspective, we've [8:15] had a very good year in terms [8:16] of providing oversight and [8:17] turn improve the efficiency of [8:18] the of the consolidated [8:22] government. As you know, my [8:23] terms of for your appointment, [8:25] it's up in MARCH next year or [8:29] this year, rather in [8:30] Twenty-twenty 6. And I've [8:33] asked for a another 4 years. [8:33] The Inspector General [8:34] selection retention committee [8:35] has agreed to that has to come [8:36] before you as a council to [8:39] approve another 4 years should [8:40] be worthy of note that this is [8:41] the first time as part general [8:43] has asked actually lasted for [8:45] unable to make it to the [8:46] report faces. So I'm pretty [8:46] depressed myself for that [8:51] accomplishment. The success of [8:52] our office is all about the [8:53] people. So I'd like to take my [8:54] minutes that I have to talk [8:56] about a couple of our folks in [8:56] accomplishment that they've [8:58] had over the course of last [9:00] year. First and foremost as my [9:03] deputy inspector general, MR. [9:05] Examples. Rick is a an expert. [9:07] Many things and his expertise [9:07] is recognized. He was asked to [9:09] come to our go to San Diego [9:11] for the National Conference of [9:13] the Association inspector [9:15] General's and speak to that [9:17] conference. So NOVEMBER of [9:18] this year. This past year, [9:19] rather, Rick went and gave a [9:20] speech on a public relations [9:24] for oversight professionals is [9:25] very well-received. Got a [9:27] great deal of feedback. [9:28] Positive feedback. And it's [9:29] it's nice to know that the [9:31] city has an asset like that in [9:34] the office that we're able to [9:35] reach out to it you know, [9:35] leverage his expertise in [9:37] front of the city's victims. [9:37] So I'd like to recognize [9:41] wreck. Next is is my creation [9:44] manager MISS Christina It's [9:45] got to does many things for [9:47] the office as the creation [9:48] manager. Again, she's [9:50] recognized by your peers and [9:53] was invited 2 statewide peer [9:54] reviews for accreditation for [9:55] the Florida Law Enforcement [9:57] Commission for Nation, which [9:57] is a very big deal. Again, we [10:00] have that in house expertise [10:00] where we have someone is [10:03] considered to be an expert in [10:04] our office who's been asked to [10:05] go out and share expertise [10:06] with the rest of the states. [10:09] That's that's very impressive. [10:10] And the last person like to [10:10] recognize is my senior [10:12] investigator, Brandon King. [10:14] Brent is just incredible work [10:15] this year. So this [10:15] investigation, you've all [10:19] pretty to you've seen and MR. [10:20] King because of expertise in [10:21] because of his reputation. The [10:24] city by a request from the fbi [10:26] for Brennan to be part of the [10:27] major procurement Task force [10:30] with the fbi. So we've entered [10:31] into you with the fbi that the [10:33] mayor signed this past year. [10:35] That makes Brandon a task [10:35] force officer. What that does [10:39] for us is it gives I believe, [10:39] will access to federal systems [10:43] and allows us to do a lot more [10:44] comprehensive analysis on some [10:45] of the subject our [10:46] investigations and his [10:47] expertise again being [10:48] recognized. He's the only [10:50] inspector general from the [10:51] city level. That's on a task [10:53] force. I'm aware of. So that's [10:57] pretty impressive for him. I [10:57] provide looked copy of report [10:59] for you guys to look at and I [11:00] give you a hard copy tonight, [11:03] a look at as well. Any [11:04] questions on the report? I [11:05] mean, more happy to answer [11:05] them. If not in this form, you [11:07] can certainly for questions to [11:07] my office. We knew that [11:08] chancellor as soon as [11:10] possible. Than that, I'm [11:12] available for questions. All [11:18] right, Doctor Salem. Thank [11:20] you, MR. PRESIDENT, I just [11:21] wanted to stand and thank [11:24] MISTER The cell and his staff. [11:25] >> I had the opportunity to [11:26] work very closely with him [11:29] when I was PRESIDENT [11:30] Occasionally interact with him [11:32] and his staff, they are very [11:34] professional and they are very [11:35] independent, which is I think [11:36] clearly needed in this [11:40] environment. Very excited that [11:40] he's hopefully going to be [11:41] around here another 4 years [11:44] because we have been through [11:46] it for us that have been [11:47] around a while and that [11:48] particular office. So [11:49] congratulations to you and to [11:54] your staff and sir. Alright, [11:55] councilmember done. [11:55] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I [11:56] would say the exact same [11:57] thing. Matt, you're awesome. [11:58] And your team is also McKinley [11:59] are deputies last name a [12:00] sample and you're like the ig. [12:04] That's awesome, too. Like if [12:05] you had bet on the pali market [12:08] that you be up for another 4 [12:09] years that the Jacksonville, [12:10] it would last a second for you [12:11] would've made a ton of money. [12:13] Pit bet. Yes. So [12:14] congratulations and thanks for [12:14] everything you guys do. Thank [12:15] you very much. [12:21] >> All Righ Colonel Miller. [12:22] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT to [12:24] the PRESIDENT, MR. I want to [12:25] echo the comments of my [12:29] colleagues having been [12:30] inspector general for the [12:31] armed forces through Europe [12:34] and Israel and also for state [12:36] of Florida. I know how hard a [12:38] job it is that you and your [12:39] team have. And I've been [12:42] watching for a long time this [12:43] office through those periods [12:46] that you referred to and I am [12:49] happy to say in public you and [12:50] your team or what I believe [12:52] right? Looks like. And this [12:56] city is well served by you and [12:58] your team. And I hope you you [12:59] all stay there for a long time [13:02] to help us with all the things [13:05] that you do with transparency, [13:05] accountability, helping us [13:08] find ways to better do things [13:10] and protect him. Better use [13:11] taxpayer dollars. So thank you [13:14] very much. Thank you, sir. All [13:15] right. That is all the [13:16] speakers floor leader. And [13:17] thank you, sir, for coming [13:19] down. Present. Make sure. [13:21] >> MR. PRESIDENT colleagues at [13:21] this time I'd like to [13:23] recognize tonight's pages. We [13:24] have Regina. I was a from [13:25] weave tales and Collin Johnson [13:27] from the Florida virtuous, a [13:28] virtual school. Thank you for [13:36] serving with us today. Right? [13:37] >> We're now on Page 4 will [13:37] take up cause additional [13:39] items. The first of which is [13:40] here on pace for these arms [13:40] are now taking up to not [13:42] include public hearings as [13:43] they were thoroughly reviewed [13:44] at the committee level where [13:46] public hearings are part of [13:47] the decision-making process. [13:47] Council members are reminded [13:50] to clear any ex parte [13:51] communications. Our first [13:51] item, number one, it's a quasi [13:53] judicial resolution. I'm 2025, [13:54] 0, 8, 4, 5, I move the [13:57] amendment to grant appeal. [13:59] >> I've got a motion and [13:59] second on the amendment is [14:00] known in the queue all in [14:01] favor of the amendment signify [14:04] by saying Aye you post an ad [14:04] the cares. I moved the bill as [14:07] amended to grant appeal. I've [14:08] got a motion a second on the [14:09] bill as amended. No one is in [14:10] the queue. Please open the [14:25] ballot and record your vote. [14:30] >> 17 yeas, 0 nays actually [14:33] approved 2025. Dash 0, 8, 4, [14:34] 5, [14:34] >> No, not quasi judicial [14:35] ordinance is the first which [14:38] is item to 2025, 0, 6, 7, 5, [14:39] out to clear my ex parte. I [14:41] received one phone call from a [14:43] resident in support of this [14:44] ordinance and one e-mail from [14:45] a resident in opposition. And [14:47] this has been filed, but slave [14:48] services arrived. Acute was [14:49] cleared out. I mean, so get [14:50] back in for your ex Parte [14:51] Council. Vice PRESIDENT Nick [14:56] Allen. You're recognized. [14:58] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I [15:01] also rise to declare its parte [15:01] communications. I received a [15:03] phone call and spoke with a [15:03] resident in support today and [15:07] I received a voicemail. [15:08] >> Reply but didn't connects [15:09] with the applicant today. [15:09] Thank you. We'll make sure [15:12] that both filed. All right. [15:12] Thank you. Keeps getting [15:14] cleared out. So right now I'm [15:14] known in the queue, but I know [15:15] you're all in councilmember [15:19] Palooza. [15:21] >> As PRESIDENT Declare ex [15:22] parte in favor of this [15:23] rezoning us your hemline over [15:25] the phone today to discuss [15:26] this item and compromises made [15:27] with other neighbors. [15:30] >> It's been 5 legislative [15:31] services. [15:32] >> All right. We're glitch and [15:33] hard over Just raise your hand [15:33] on this side. Anyone [15:38] Councilmember Miller. Thank [15:41] you, MR. PRESIDENT I rise to [15:42] declare ex Parte [15:42] communications I received one [15:45] MAY e-mail in opposition. [15:46] >> Telephone message from [15:50] Hayden Phillips. And today I [15:51] spoke with Josh Cockrell on [15:53] the telephone about this and [15:56] the these 3 have been filed [15:56] with legislative services. [15:58] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT [16:00] Councilmember Ari declared [16:00] Month Beginning Council [16:05] COUNCILMAN Tomorrow. I too [16:05] rise of the cleric part ex [16:07] Parte received the [16:09] >> phone call today from the [16:12] applicant did not speak with [16:13] him. Nevertheless, information [16:15] will be filed with legislative [16:15] services. I want thank you [16:21] Councilmember Day. PRESIDENT [16:23] Arrives the clerics, parte [16:27] receive emails several calls [16:32] in opposition of We've had [16:34] notice meetings one on 10 to [16:38] 25 the other on 12 3.25 that [16:39] ended the planning Commission [16:46] on 12 for. 25 use the 1, 6, 26 [16:48] in also met with the applicant [16:51] and the developer on 10, 14, [16:52] 20 fa and 12 to 25 thing in [16:55] all. This has been filed with [16:56] legislators services. [16:56] >> All right. Past Presidents, [17:02] Salem. Thank you, MR. [17:02] PRESIDENT average have [17:03] received one e-mail in [17:04] opposition and it's been 5 [17:04] legislative services. [17:08] >> Thank you. [17:10] >> All right. No one else in [17:11] Mike. You raise your hand on [17:11] the left side. He wants big [17:14] can expect today. All right. I [17:15] have ex parte. I received a [17:18] phone call from Josh Cockrell. [17:19] He lives in the neighborhood [17:21] next to development. He was in [17:21] support, said that they had [17:23] come to some kind of terms [17:25] where the developer would help [17:28] the adjacent community with a [17:30] park and then I had a meeting [17:31] in my office with Hayden [17:31] Phillips in which she talked [17:34] about the same same [17:35] conversation and also showed [17:36] me the actual layout of the [17:37] development and we'll get that [17:39] fall with legislative [17:40] services. No other speakers in [17:43] the queue, I moved the bill. [17:44] Have a motion. A second on the [17:48] bill Councilmember game. Thank [17:53] you, MR. PRESIDENT. [17:56] >> On this, this bill here [17:56] that had several community [17:57] meetings where the community [18:01] come out and from the [18:03] onslaught of this. There was [18:05] many, many that was an [18:05] opposition. There was an [18:07] agreement that was made with [18:13] community down the road, too. [18:13] Basically redo their picnic [18:17] table and and slide. So that [18:19] basically change that one [18:22] particular development. But to [18:22] give you a better context. So [18:28] what this is this road here is [18:31] basically a where this [18:33] development is going as a [18:34] waterfront community. It's got [18:38] 41 half acre. Lots on on this [18:42] river. He's got 32, one acre [18:42] lots on this river. He's got [18:47] 1, 2 acre lot. He's got 1, 3, [18:51] 3 acre, lots. It's got one 4 [18:54] acre lot, 1, 5 acre lot one, 6 [18:56] acre lot. And at the end of [19:02] the road, that is the same [19:03] developer this to do. This is [19:06] putting in over 70 rld 100. So [19:11] it they hold road on the [19:13] waterfront. Is based on the [19:15] larger lots and to come into [19:16] Tuesday in what the community [19:18] was saying was we're not [19:20] saying no to this. We want [19:21] something compatible with [19:24] larger. Lots on on the water. [19:26] So, yes, it's a conventional [19:29] zoning or you can't do that. [19:30] And so that actually what the [19:33] issue is, does it say wrong so [19:35] on and needs to be a put that [19:37] allows for the mixed luncheon. [19:38] So it needs to go back and be [19:42] done correctly. So I'm not [19:44] going support this and, you [19:55] know, looking at. Whole this [20:00] whole zone. You know, yes. Rld [20:02] 60. That's that's density that [20:06] that's bn push out there. But [20:09] Rld 100 is still residential. [20:10] Low density and we can't tend [20:15] to get just not focused on [20:16] what is allowed and [20:17] residential low density is [20:19] allowed in. So to say no Real [20:24] d. And 60 or to 100 and say 6, [20:27] the only allow it is a [20:28] disservice and is not [20:34] compatible community that [20:38] where the money is being 42 [20:42] for their little picnic table. [20:42] They are not even on the [20:47] water. There's 14 acres that's [20:48] between them and the water. [20:53] And so not the same situation [20:56] all the way down. What was [20:57] already there are established. [21:00] So, you know, looking at this [21:05] and what was stated You see [21:09] that basically we got except [21:10] rld, whatever low-density had [21:13] density or, you know, [21:16] basically get out no. I'm not [21:18] going to be quiet. I'm not [21:20] going to accept it. Up. [21:22] Communities not deserve that [21:24] type of treatment to wear. [21:26] They're told to be quiet, shut [21:27] down, shut up or get out. No, [21:30] that's not going happen. One [21:31] of the speakers will barber [21:33] Broward that come here and [21:36] spoke and to be told that the [21:37] river that this was on as the [21:42] Broward River. Polin Bonaparte [21:42] Broward Bridge, which is the [21:44] dames point bridge. You know, [21:47] this is a disservice to that [21:48] family to say except the U.S. [21:52] Or get out. That that's our [21:55] our point on this. That is not [21:59] compatible and strongly say [22:02] vote is down. Thank you. All [22:02] right. Thank PRESIDENT Carter [22:11] g. Think of this PRESIDENT. [22:12] I'm somebody just go stand up, [22:12] say I stand with the District [22:15] Council person. When I ran for [22:19] council back in 2019, of [22:20] course, I was running at [22:23] large, not visit every part of [22:25] Jacksonville and one of my [22:29] stops was. On the North This [22:35] is the lady Leslie was more. [22:37] This more. Is as speaker? [22:39] Please be since the 2, the [22:42] extremes of zoning this, the [22:44] smaller districts not are the [22:47] smaller units next to. The [22:55] larger lots. Are so abundant [22:57] in that district out there. [23:01] And I told I would. And I've [23:03] tried to hold tight to that [23:04] over the years. I've been on [23:06] the council since then and I [23:09] will stick to it tonight. [23:10] Look, every part of [23:11] Jacksonville's district is [23:13] different. If you go to [23:16] southwest side of [23:17] Jacksonville, that's where [23:18] you'll find the ranch is in [23:20] the Cowboys. If you go to the [23:24] North side, you'll find they [23:25] have their own traditions and [23:26] cultures and say market has [23:29] their own and and the beaches [23:30] has the beaches seen? I mean, [23:31] every part of Texas different [23:32] were big town. Sometimes i [23:35] think would be great things. [23:36] Somehow we can all get to know [23:37] each other a little better [23:38] understand. But every part of [23:42] town is about. Might be too [23:44] late now. But might not be a [23:46] bad idea of. We took a a few [23:50] days and Torah teach others [23:51] districts. And so we can see [23:52] what our districts are [23:57] actually about. But I just [24:01] have to I want keep true, too. [24:02] The promise I made to MISS [24:04] More and I will of district [24:08] councilmember out there. In [24:11] those that area. I know it Not [24:12] as well as you do, sir, but I [24:14] do hope that district they're [24:16] very well and I support and I [24:18] hope that everybody else here, [24:18] we'll support the district [24:20] COUNCILMAN As well. Just like [24:23] I know you want them. You want [24:25] him to support you. Thank you. [24:25] All right. Thank you. Colonel [24:29] Miller. Thank you, MR. [24:32] PRESIDENT to the PRESIDENT [24:33] Normally because of the [24:37] process that. These bills go [24:41] through an extensive input [24:42] that's that is obtained [24:43] through the process. And in [24:46] this case and just meant by [24:47] local community. However, [24:51] playground. Offered, I think, [24:53] is a good gesture. But I'm but [24:54] I'm not sure in a dress is all [24:55] the things that [24:58] >> the District Council member [25:01] was concerned about. And so [25:02] even know normally I would [25:05] support ease because they are [25:08] strong with that. It through [25:10] the process because the [25:10] district councilmember feel so [25:15] strongly about this. I will be [25:17] supporting his position on [25:18] this and will be voting [25:21] voting. No. Thank you. [25:22] >> All right. There are no [25:23] other members in the queue. So [25:24] up in the Valley record, the [25:36] vote. [25:38] >> 13 yeas, 4 nays. [25:39] >> I actually approved 2025 0, [25:42] 6, 7, 5, [25:43] >> Write a page 5 3, 2025, 0, [25:44] 7, 5, 7, and move the [25:47] amendment. [25:48] >> Got a motion second on the [25:48] amendment in the queue all in [25:49] favor. The amendment signify [25:52] by saying aye, oppose say nay. [25:52] The amendment. Kerry see the [25:56] bill as amended. Got a motion. [25:56] A second on the bill as [25:57] amended north please up in [26:12] about quarter vote. [26:17] >> 17 yeas, 0 nays. [26:18] >> By your action, you've [26:19] approved 2025 dash, which was [26:20] that there was 7 for 2020 too. [26:25] So. Motion second on the bill [26:25] known in the Queue, please up [26:40] in about a quarter vote. [26:46] >> 17 yeas, 0 nays. Meyer [26:49] actually approved 2025. 0, 8, [26:49] 2, 7, [26:50] >> And 5 twenty-twenty Pfizer [26:52] e 3, 0, move the bill got a [26:53] motion second on the bill [26:54] known in the Cubans on about a [27:08] quarter vote. 17 yeas, 0 nays [27:11] by actually approved 2025. To [27:11] 0, 8, 3, 0, 6, 2025, 0, 8, 3, [27:14] 1, to the amendment. Got a [27:15] motion second on the [27:16] amendment. There's no in the [27:16] queue all in favor of the [27:17] amendment signify by saying [27:19] Aye aye, any opposed say nay. [27:22] Medicare's the bill has got a [27:24] motion second on the bill as [27:25] amended. There's no in the [27:25] queue. Please up in about a [27:39] record. Your vote. 17 yeas, 0 [27:40] nays by or actually approved [27:44] 2025. 0, 8, 3, 1, We're now in [27:44] a page them to take up the [27:45] consent agenda. Colleagues. If [27:47] you want to be a co-sponsor [27:49] any item, please reach out to [27:49] legislative services as [27:50] council rules prohibit items [27:51] from being pulled for this [27:51] reason. [27:51] >> MR. Taylor, would you [27:56] please read the Bills? [28:02] >> 2025 8.38 8.65 8.67 8.68 [28:10] 8.73 8.74 8.75 8 81 84. [28:10] >> That was up along. Which [28:16] number comes with them. Your [28:16] 3, 8, 7, 0, 8, 3, item 7 has [28:19] been pulled its full year. [28:20] >> I move the consent agenda [28:22] with the exception of item 7 [28:27] I'm some 2025. Is or a 3. [28:28] >> Right? We've got a motion [28:28] in second on the agenda. Minus [28:31] item 7, all in. [28:31] >> Favor open up the ballot [28:39] and record a vote. [28:42] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. But [28:43] actually, you past the consent [28:46] agenda. Minus item 7. [28:47] >> said 2025, 0, 8, 3, 8, I [28:49] moved the bill. Got a motion a [28:54] second on the bill. [28:57] Correction. I move to withdraw [28:58] on the bill to withdraw [28:59] motion. Second on that, please [29:13] open about record vote. [29:17] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [29:18] >> Thank you, MR. Dimon by Air [29:19] Action, you've approved 2025 [29:23] to 0, 8, 3, 8, unanimously. [29:24] >> PRESIDENT, I thank you, MR. [29:25] Diamond, please recognize or [29:30] rules chair. Yes. Rules here. [29:32] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, [29:34] we've just approved the [29:35] following appointment is part [29:38] of the consent agenda and the [29:40] if you're in the audience, if [29:41] you would, please stand to be [29:41] recognized. And that is MISTER [29:43] Abner. Are Davis. He's been [29:45] appointed to the board of [29:46] trustees of the Jacksonville [29:47] retirement system, MR. Davis [29:51] out there you are. Thank you [29:51] very much. Very important [29:55] position and role and thank [29:56] you for stepping up. It please [29:57] thank MR. Davis for [30:02] volunteers. Thank you, MR. [30:05] PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT now [30:07] time for public comment lays. [30:08] And John, if you wish to [30:09] speak, you should filled out a [30:10] green public comment cards. No [30:12] cards will be accepted after 6 [30:13] council's call for an [30:15] allotment of 90 minutes for [30:16] public comment. [30:17] >> Give the number card [30:18] submitted so far. Each speaker [30:20] will be given 3 minutes. That [30:20] is subject to change of [30:22] additional cards are turned in [30:24] before 6 on now. It's 5 [30:25] speakers at a time. When I [30:25] call your name, please come [30:26] down to the reserve seats in [30:27] the front row while waiting [30:30] your turn to speak. Your time [30:31] will not start until you [30:32] arrive at the podium. And [30:32] remember to state your name [30:33] and address people are [30:35] beginning or you MAY addresses [30:38] on file. A speaker MAY be [30:38] invited to the green Room for [30:40] further discussion of council [30:41] members discretion. I'll read [30:42] the first 5 names now so they [30:44] can begin to make their way [30:45] down and that I will have [30:47] MISTER Till read Council real [30:48] 4.5, 0, 5 regarding disruption [30:49] of meetings. The first 5 [30:51] speakers. Please come on down, [30:52] Jerry, what I'm Kathleen [30:57] Pereira. Nicole Cressey, Doug [31:00] Hansard and Samantha Series, [31:01] MR. Till MAY please read [31:04] Council roll 4.5, 0, 5, [31:06] Council roll 4.5, 0, 5, [31:09] disruption of meeting. Any [31:11] person who disrupts the [31:12] regular meeting of the City [31:13] Council standing committee's [31:16] special or select committees, [31:16] subcommittees or any other [31:17] public meeting presided over [31:20] by a city council member maybe [31:22] forthwith barred, removed or [31:23] otherwise ejected and the [31:24] discretion of the presiding [31:24] officer from further [31:28] attendance at that meeting. If [31:29] necessary, due to the nature [31:29] of the disruption, the [31:30] audience MAY be cleared from [31:33] the council chambers or [31:34] meeting location in discretion [31:36] of the presiding officer. Any [31:37] person who refuses to leave [31:38] the City Council chamber MAY [31:40] be subject to arrest. Thank [31:42] you, MR. Till let's leave [31:44] services. Please note the [31:44] start time as 5.32 And that's [31:51] Europe. [31:55] >> Jerry address on file. Good [31:56] evening. Council members and [31:58] fellow citizens Happy New [31:58] Year. I pray you all enjoyed [32:02] your Christmas break. A [32:02] chaplain for the Duval [32:05] Republican Liberty Caucus. And [32:07] we stand for citizens rights [32:08] as our founders intended [32:09] standing for the Constitution. [32:12] >> And the bill of rights [32:13] because we believe the words [32:14] of the Bible. First [32:17] Corinthians 14, 40, but all [32:17] things be done decently and in [32:21] order. I must speak out as [32:24] many citizens seen the news [32:25] about district 11 councilmen [32:26] showing disrespect towards my [32:29] COUNCILMAN District 2. He said [32:31] the fact is that people don't [32:33] want density that should go [32:35] somewhere else. He also showed [32:36] his frustration saying I'm [32:38] getting fed up with it. I feel [32:39] this behavior was unethical [32:42] and should not happen again [32:44] when this behavior is allowed. [32:44] It brings down the whole [32:45] council in front of the [32:49] citizens who to represent them [32:50] and not disrespect them. Good [32:51] night and thank you for your [32:52] time. Thank you. MISS Kathleen [32:58] Prayer. [32:58] >> My name is Kathleen Prayer. [33:02] My information somehow. Out [33:02] with the old and in with the [33:04] is not a cliche. It is a [33:08] profound problem. Proverb. [33:11] Like the out is giving blanket [33:11] approval for projects and [33:12] developments without regard to [33:14] the neighborhoods. Impact, [33:15] especially when those [33:17] neighborhoods have already [33:18] just because land use and [33:21] zoning codes MAY allow event [33:21] if they don't specifically [33:23] deny particular project does [33:24] not mean that they're a good [33:26] fit for the neighborhoods. [33:28] Therefore, it is now in to [33:31] actually review in and force [33:33] and codify the 1995 [33:34] neighborhood that Bill of [33:35] rights. So that controversial [33:36] projects like the morgue, the [33:39] slaughterhouse, the Old Depot [33:40] and the like will now merely [33:42] bement lessons taught about [33:43] bad policy. In fact, the [33:47] Council connect this ordinance [33:48] right away, codify right away [33:49] before the plans for the new [33:50] are written in any kind of [33:54] back room. Also out is using [33:56] the budget as a magical [33:57] bottomless treasure chest to [33:59] pay for pet projects, pet [34:03] staff and pet non for profits [34:05] and ngo's. Instead in with the [34:06] responsible, transparent [34:08] stewardship taxpayers monies [34:10] because that is everyone's [34:12] job. This can start right [34:13] away. Now, using any savings [34:15] found from any line item to [34:19] pay down our city's debt? [34:20] Finally, it is definitely in [34:22] in 2026. To listen to the [34:23] citizens who come to each [34:24] meeting to petition this [34:26] council for any redress [34:28] grievances. This would mean [34:28] giving your full and serious [34:30] attention to these grievances [34:32] with about a dress or peas [34:34] them to the best of your [34:36] ability. It also means [34:36] respecting other council ments [34:40] and their districts. But it's [34:41] also definitely out to [34:43] tolerate spiteful inflammatory [34:44] or threatening words of or [34:46] actions from bitter people [34:47] suffering from suicidal [34:50] empathy or grandiose. He goes [34:53] if that means compromising [34:54] order. Prudence for civility [34:54] when conducting the business [34:56] of the public's business. Not [35:00] to mention how outages to be [35:01] unethical, unbiased during [35:02] quasi judicial meetings like [35:04] what happened in the Easy [35:06] committee meeting one council [35:06] when the COUNCILMAN For [35:09] district allow 11 disrespected [35:10] the councilmen and citizens of [35:14] district want to. But that [35:17] said, just think about 2026. [35:20] The possibilities. [35:21] >> Thank u next up, mystical [35:33] Crescent. Good evening [35:36] Councilmembers. Nicole Cressey [35:37] 14 68 Hendricks Avenue. I am [35:38] the executive director of [35:39] Green scape of Jacksonville. [35:41] >> It's a pleasure to be with [35:43] you tonight. I'm here to [35:45] provide an update for upcoming [35:46] great tree giveaway. And our [35:47] collaboration with the city to [35:48] offer this support our [35:52] community. I'm pleased to [35:53] announce that we will be [35:55] hosting our great tree [35:56] giveaway this coming Saturday, [36:00] JANUARY 17th from 9 to one. At [36:02] Unf. The jag wires had such an [36:04] amazing season. We have [36:06] relocated. We will be hosting [36:08] this giveaway in partnership [36:08] with keep Jacksonville [36:09] beautiful for a paper [36:12] shredding event and recycling [36:14] and unf. We will give away [36:17] 1800 free trees to the public. [36:21] This is the largest single [36:26] initiative to provide trees on [36:27] public public initiative for [36:28] private property. And we're [36:28] really thrilled to do this [36:32] with the city. Our 1800 trees [36:33] will include a converse him [36:36] and Schumer do Kramer Dulls [36:37] Southern Crabapple, bald [36:40] cypress, Dahoon Holly, a [36:41] Magnolia red Maples and black [36:44] gums. And we're really excited [36:47] these trees will provide [36:47] significant benefits to the [36:51] community for the long term, [36:53] including and equivalent of [36:55] 3.8, 8 million dollars in [36:58] total economic and [36:58] environmental benefits to the [37:01] community over 75 years, these [37:03] 1800 trees that we will offer [37:06] will intercept nearly [37:07] 340 million gallons of [37:11] rainwater and almost [37:13] 32 million dollars of storm [37:14] water will be of avoided with [37:16] the 1800 trees that we offer [37:21] for free. And we will also [37:23] have approximately 47.5 [37:24] million pounds of co 2 reduced [37:26] with the trees that we are [37:27] planning here. Those are huge [37:28] numbers to put them in [37:30] perspective. The co 2 [37:34] reduction equate too taking [37:36] 4,600 cars off the road for a [37:37] full year. The storm water, [37:40] the rainfall excuse me would [37:42] fill more than 515 Olympic [37:44] size pools. So this is a key [37:45] initiative that aligns with [37:48] the city stewardship of [37:49] enhancing our community. [37:51] Ensuring is a strong tree [37:52] canopy and I'd like to call [37:55] out for the public's [37:57] awareness. The Jacksonville is [37:58] a tree City usa, which is an [38:01] amazing distinction, too. [38:02] Recognize the city's [38:04] commitment to environmental [38:05] stewards stewardship, [38:07] particularly in urban [38:10] forestry. That is 27 years and [38:13] counting. Jta is a tree line [38:16] usa and Unf is now a tree [38:17] campus. Usa. And so it's [38:20] really a testament to our [38:21] local commitment to ensuring a [38:24] tree canopy for generations to [38:24] come. We're really thrilled to [38:28] partner with the city with [38:29] jta, with csx, with the [38:31] Florida for service with Jack [38:33] Sport, with the tm and the [38:33] Gates Foundation to offer this [38:35] service to the public. So [38:39] thank you to the city for your [38:40] support in helping to make [38:40] this a reality. And we're [38:41] excited to do it for many more [38:43] years to come. Thank you. [38:48] Thank you. Next up, hansard. [38:49] >> And then Samantha serious [39:04] here after MR. Hanson. [39:08] >> Greetings and Happy. New [39:10] Year Cancer. Information on [39:13] file. And hoping that you can [39:19] hear pretty clear. I stand. [39:21] And representation of j tack. [39:24] Kt a c. As well Jacksonville [39:27] Council of the Blind. And for [39:28] those in our disabilities [39:33] community. Thank you. I'm [39:36] thankful that. The news of you [39:39] serve. Well, not be going [39:44] away. That's the good news. [39:46] The not so good news. Is a [39:50] fare hike. I understand him [39:55] greatly understanding about. [39:55] Finance is going up. [39:57] Everybody's finances going up. [40:00] But with this financial [40:04] increase. $6 to $10. It's [40:09] like. When Saturday the [40:10] temperature was 80 degrees and [40:10] all of a sudden a couple of [40:12] days later was down to making [40:14] a the 50's. It was called to [40:20] shot. Our bodies. It's the [40:22] same way with price increase. [40:27] As it most of either work pool [40:29] time or even more part-time, [40:32] such as myself or are just on [40:35] a fixed income. It's hard to [40:38] make ends meet as it is. We [40:42] hope and pray. That solution [40:45] will be worked on. Together. [40:52] With j Tack. Jta and with the [40:53] And finally, I would like to [40:56] say. [40:59] >> We far better together and [41:02] we ever will separate. I think [41:06] you. My time is up and I think [41:10] you for yours. [41:11] >> All right. Thank you. I [41:12] have a council member in the [41:13] Queue. Councilmember areas [41:14] join speak. Yes, Sir. MISTER [41:17] PRESIDENT, thank you for this. [41:18] >> So very quick. I know words [41:21] matter and I said something I [41:21] shouldn't said last week [41:22] committee. So I want to [41:23] apologize not only Mr, Gay, [41:26] but also community in general. [41:27] What I said really affected [41:28] every but lot of people that [41:29] were here. And I just want let [41:33] you guys know that I misspoke. [41:33] My frustration clarity. We [41:34] need more houses in [41:35] Jacksonville and a lot of [41:36] people are building houses in [41:39] the South side and all [41:40] different parts of town. And [41:42] we need more developments. [41:42] Happening now is my [41:43] frustration. I want more [41:45] houses will be built. So but I [41:47] misspoke and I'm a human [41:48] being, I on the action on said [41:51] the way I said it. But I [41:52] definitely am for more [41:52] development because we need [41:54] more houses in general and [41:57] Jackson. So my apologies to [41:58] you, sir. But also to [41:59] everybody out here watching [41:59] and that's here. So I might I [42:01] really do mean it. Thank you. [42:02] Thank you, MR. For late, if [42:05] you want to continue. [42:06] >> next, several be Samantha [42:07] Series the next 5 after that. [42:09] Please start coming down. [42:10] Wells Todd Sherry Mathis, [42:15] Taylor, full land. Juror and [42:16] Ronnie Bursa. Please make your [42:19] way down. If I call your name [42:20] series. [42:21] >> Samantha Series address on [42:22] file. I'm just here today to [42:24] remind you all. I do [42:25] understand development is [42:26] important, but I think when [42:27] you have responsible [42:27] development, I think that [42:31] would be the most. Proper way [42:32] to go about it. We have many [42:34] buildings for Lee's many areas [42:36] that, you know, could be [42:37] renovated instead of just [42:39] building on top of new areas. [42:41] We can kind of look internally [42:45] and look for places that, you [42:46] know, could be renovated, [42:47] changed into the use. You [42:48] know, there are many buildings [42:50] that are sitting empty. Just [42:52] have fairly signs. There are [42:53] many projects that are done [42:57] this rezoning this the [42:58] different rural areas. You [42:59] know, I understand that we do [43:01] need more development, but [43:02] sometimes we are putting the [43:05] cart before the horse. I think [43:07] that we need to understand [43:09] that the way that we're [43:10] developing is developing our [43:13] land is not the proper way. We [43:15] are allowing these developers [43:16] who build as quickly as [43:17] possible without any rhyme or [43:22] reason. I see it. I drove to [43:24] Tampa this past week for work [43:26] and watching all of the land [43:27] up for sale. But different [43:31] empty. Lots of just, you know, [43:32] dirt all for sale and they [43:34] build these buildings without [43:34] the need. I don't understand [43:38] why. We're seeing a need that [43:41] isn't actually there because I [43:42] see the empty buildings. I see [43:44] the empty lots. All of the [43:46] areas are for sale. You know, [43:48] I understand we do need some [43:49] development. But again, I use [43:52] irresponsible. I thing the way [43:52] that we're trying to work [43:56] with. The downtown areas [43:57] perfect. I think that's [43:58] something that we need to [43:59] concentrate on because there [44:00] are many empty buildings there [44:02] that could be used for [44:04] different things instead of [44:05] offices, they could be made [44:07] into homes like the [44:07] infrastructure is already [44:08] there. I think it's important [44:11] that. You know, we concentrate [44:12] more on working together. You [44:15] know, it's not the developers [44:16] against the people. It should [44:17] be developers working with [44:20] people. And I think it's [44:21] important that we concentrate [44:22] on working together with them [44:26] and having them maybe. Invest [44:27] in other areas before they [44:29] tear down different sections [44:30] of Jacksonville. I think there [44:31] are many beautiful things [44:31] about Jacksonville. I loved [44:33] hearing about the trees. I [44:35] think that's a wonderful [44:36] initiative that the woman just [44:37] spoke and I think we need more [44:40] of that rather than less of [44:42] that really it's hard to see [44:45] all the different development [44:47] just tearing down these trees, [44:48] tearing down these [44:49] environments for the animals. [44:50] No one ever talks about We [44:53] need more development for the [44:55] people coming in. What about [44:56] that's already there. There's [44:57] rd things there. There's [44:58] already animals. There's [44:59] already plants. There's [45:00] vegetation. There are things [45:01] that protect our wetlands that [45:04] protect our We need those [45:05] sayings. Florida cannot [45:08] survive as of concrete slab. [45:10] And I encourage you all to [45:11] take better care and look into [45:12] these rezoning requests. Thank [45:23] you. Thank u. Next up taught. [45:23] >> My name is wealth time. [45:27] Would take him down. Jax. To [45:29] the 19 city council members [45:29] into the 20th City [45:33] Councilmember Blake Hopper. In [45:34] 2025, it was one city council [45:36] scandal after another. You [45:40] refuse to vote on a resolution [45:41] that would call for a [45:44] cease-fire in Gaza while [45:45] supporting the Zionists, [45:48] Israeli government. You had 3 [45:48] young people arrested because [45:50] they clap during a meeting. [45:54] But the real reason was their [45:55] verbal support for a [45:56] cease-fire resolution. One of [45:58] them continues to face a [46:02] felony charge. You showed no [46:03] relief to the predominantly [46:07] African-American Brentwood [46:07] community. While a medical [46:08] examiner's office and more was [46:09] built right across the street [46:12] from an elementary school. You [46:15] are in favor of developers. [46:17] You work to rezone residential [46:19] areas. It's not that we need [46:20] more housing. We need [46:24] affordable housing. You now [46:25] give full-throated support 2 [46:28] moms for Liberty who now make [46:30] up the majority of the school [46:34] board. A number of you support [46:35] book bans, including the 28th [46:36] member of the City Council. [46:39] Blake Harper. The beaches City [46:41] Councilmember supports Charlie [46:42] Kirk's turning Point usa Clubs [46:46] in our schools, these clubs [46:47] and nothing more than vehicles [46:48] that help spread the false [46:50] ideology of white supremacy. I [46:52] raise these issues because in [46:56] this coming year you will see [46:58] more resistance to the city [46:59] council and that resistance [47:04] will continue to grow. Next [47:09] up, after this. After that, [47:19] Taylor, Poland. What will they [47:23] be when the time is up? [47:23] >> sorry. Will you be when the [47:28] time is My name is Sherry [47:29] Moffat's Mon Grap. I live [47:29] Clayton Road in Jackson in [47:34] Jacksonville. I was a I've [47:35] been a member of the Jack in [47:35] the Transportation Advisory [47:38] Committee for several years. [47:38] We were instrumental that [47:43] committee members in getting [47:45] you so connection. Plus, we [47:46] encourage an at jta to have [47:51] that for you. Then we as a [47:51] group called at city's and [47:52] asked how they did it. We took [47:54] our findings back to jta and [48:00] encourage them again. And one [48:00] thing with said that 6 months [48:05] later with. It was cheaper po [48:06] ride for connection. Plus, [48:09] because on the regular buses, [48:10] they have to buy the big buses [48:13] every so often they have to [48:14] maintain those buses. They [48:16] have to pay gas and those bus [48:16] if they have to clean those [48:17] best, that you do not have to [48:19] do that for that connection. [48:21] Plus, they have the wrong [48:23] vehicle. So they were thinking [48:26] at the time jta said, why [48:28] don't we make type of as part [48:31] of the actual regular [48:32] connection for everyone [48:35] because keeper and it's [48:37] obvious they want us to [48:38] transition away to the big [48:39] bands because when you raise [48:43] your price, 600% and you're [48:44] going to get a great majority [48:45] of those 31,000 right to go [48:48] in. Now go to the big buses, [48:48] which I think it's gonna over [48:50] tax them and they're not ready [48:51] for it. But let's say it works [48:52] perfectly. There things that [48:54] the the big buses can't do. [48:58] They can't do. We'll call [49:00] ready right? I'm ready. We [49:02] don't have to think ahead [49:03] time. What coming am I going [49:03] to be out of the store? What [49:05] time am I going to be? And if [49:06] we underestimate or ride was [49:07] sitting there waiting for an [49:11] hour or 2 without him, frozen [49:12] foods you melting of standing [49:13] outside the doctor's office [49:20] waiting if we over estimate. [49:21] If the other way round. We [49:23] overestimate underestimate we [49:24] MISS A ride. And according to [49:26] jta, we could wait up to 3 [49:26] hours for the next best. That [49:29] model that's model of having [49:32] do that with. Connection. [49:34] Plus, you call. I'm ready. [49:35] I've never had to wait. More [49:38] than 7 minutes And if you want [49:42] to go from point abc get to [49:42] the bank, go get your [49:43] medicine, go pick up your [49:47] child from daycare from [49:48] destination, one to 2 with the [49:53] jta Big Best motto, 2 hours. [49:57] Destination 2 to 3, 2, 6, [49:58] cetera. What is connection? [50:00] Plus, you can do it in a [50:01] matter minutes, depending on [50:05] how far away the next next [50:09] destination. It. So what would [50:10] have normally taken 6 hours [50:10] not to take too. And then they [50:12] wonder why this. So this is so [50:15] popular if we want, if they [50:18] want more numbers on the [50:19] regular connection so they can [50:20] get bigger federal grants [50:21] which what seems to be why [50:24] don't we make the connection [50:28] plus type. Thank you. Thank [50:29] you, Ma'am. Councilmember [50:30] Jones would like to talk to in [50:32] the green Room if I could get [50:33] when council systems to help [50:36] Matthews gets the green room. [50:37] >> And their next speaker will [50:48] be Taylor fo land. Good [50:54] Evening. Council members. Not [50:54] 2 members of the council. My [50:56] name is Taylor, Poland. It's [50:56] not the land. It's not the [51:02] >> Poland. Enlightened [51:03] citizenry is indispensable for [51:05] proper functioning of a [51:08] republic. Self government is [51:09] not possible. Alas, the [51:10] citizens are educated [51:13] sufficiently. Therefore, they [51:14] will be unable to x or [51:21] exercise oversight. It is [51:21] therefore imperative that a [51:24] nation see it provided all to [51:25] its citizens. Thomas Jefferson [51:28] paraphrase. [51:28] >> I'm here because I'm not [51:32] really happy. [51:33] >> I have never been stopped [51:35] by a police officer in my [51:36] life. I chose Jacksonville [51:38] from a new home and I chose to [51:41] chose it because of its [51:43] metropolitan Vives and country [51:45] appeal. I've been visiting [51:47] here since my early 20's. I [51:53] was harassed. Illegally. [51:53] Thrown out of a publicly [51:58] funded place. That budget that [52:01] built that park is 25 million [52:02] dollars. We pay for the public [52:05] budget. 1.5% goes into that. [52:07] Someone used the makes make. [52:11] It makes sense to me why I was [52:13] thrown out of a publicly [52:13] funded place by the citizens [52:17] of Jacksonville. You 19 [52:20] represent us with what I do. I [52:22] look at all of your seats as a [52:23] business. Now with what I do [52:26] professionally for a decade. [52:27] And if I don't have proper [52:34] remedy of reasonably under the [52:35] ticket, regal Leury course of [52:36] this because I'm over this. [52:37] That officer that day on [52:40] JANUARY 6. Just so happened to [52:44] be JANUARY 6th. With my luck. [52:49] Talked about the rules. And [52:50] then acquitted the rules of [52:51] paying my apartment, which is [52:54] a privately funded and ever to [52:55] a publicly funded place and [52:56] insinuated that I was [52:58] illiterate. And that I MAY be [53:01] a sexual predator. Relation to [53:02] your quads on them. And you [53:08] know what? This is my rules. [53:08] Constitution of the United [53:12] States of America. It trumps [53:15] any city Trump, Santa Claus. I [53:16] amendment trumps any amendment [53:18] that this city council passes [53:22] and I want somebody to explain [53:25] to me why this happened. Time [53:28] credibly angry about this. And [53:29] there has discretionary [53:31] oversight of the budget and tk [53:33] Waters needs to fire that [53:37] sheriff like yesterday. Next [53:45] up Windsor. [53:46] >> Like to talk about the [53:48] school's of hope. I think [53:50] everyone needs to understand [53:55] what the school's of hope are. [53:59] The schools of hope. He's [54:00] having charter schools, [54:02] for-profit charter Schools Co [54:05] locate in public schools. And [54:07] it's the next logical [54:08] extension on the road to [54:09] destroy public school [54:13] education. For over 20 years. [54:14] Public schools have been [54:17] undermined and shortchanged by [54:19] charter schools and vouchers [54:19] for private schools and [54:23] homeschooling. This plan is [54:24] clearly to promote the profits [54:27] of charter school operators. [54:32] Because there will be no cost. [54:34] To the charter private charter [54:35] school operator of co-locating [54:36] in a public school. The costs [54:40] will be 0 rent, 0 rent for a [54:40] poor for-profit charter [54:43] school. And they will pay 0 [54:48] for maintenance. Of that [54:51] school of that public school. [54:54] So the cost is to the public [54:54] in a major, serious blurring [54:57] of the line between public [54:58] schools and for-profit [55:02] schools. Makes public funds [55:04] available again to for-profit [55:08] businesses. For these MISS [55:10] Named Schools of Hope. Just [55:12] like the MISS Named Moms for [55:16] Liberty. We can thank the [55:17] governor and the politicians [55:20] meeting in Tallahassee today. [55:22] I understand that you all [55:23] don't oversee the schools, but [55:23] I think it's important for [55:24] everyone to understand what [55:29] the school's of hope Hopefully [55:31] it'll be repealed, not just [55:33] modified in this next [55:36] legislative session. Thank [55:36] you. [55:37] >> Thank you. We have received [55:38] some additional card so we are [55:39] going to cut the time to 2 [55:41] minutes. And 45 seconds going [55:43] forward. Our next speaker will [55:44] be running Burress at than the [55:45] 5 after that. Please come on [55:48] down. Blake Harper Jonelle [55:50] Keener Rick Babineaux Kathleen [55:51] Marie and Joanne de Angelo MR. [55:55] Burst. [55:56] >> name is Ronnie Burris [55:57] Olivet. 36, 40 Jacksonville, [56:01] Florida. Business manager of [56:06] Lionel, Local 6.30 [56:06] >> And [56:08] >> as you see back here with a [56:11] sea of orange like I've got [56:13] on. These are employees of [56:14] Jacksonville City of [56:15] Jacksonville, and Duval County [56:19] School board. I represent all [56:21] 3 ice in each one of you are [56:23] on my behalf email was sent to [56:26] each one of you asking to meet [56:30] with the with meat. Last week. [56:35] And several. Responded. Yes, [56:35] we would love to meet with [56:39] you. MISTER Burris. Then about [56:40] 30 minutes later, I got [56:42] started getting e-mails. [56:43] Sorry, MISTER Burress, we [56:47] can't meet with you. Israel [56:49] recently come to my attention [56:50] that as a city council member [56:52] Ryan put prohibited by our [56:53] city Council rules for meeting [56:55] with your organization [56:56] regarding the collective [56:59] bargaining negotiations with j [57:00] a until after there is [57:01] agreement between the Union [57:06] and j a. My letter, the e-mail [57:11] that was sent on my behalf. [57:12] Said I'm reaching out to [57:13] schedule an in-person [57:15] conversation between you and [57:16] the locally unions. Business [57:21] manager Ronnie Burris. Nothing [57:25] said negotiations with j. Was [57:30] said in that. Then, of course, [57:30] I did a public records [57:36] request. And because it had to [57:38] come from somewhere, I don't [57:39] think any of you decided that [57:40] this is what was supposed to [57:43] be. So I did a public records [57:50] request. And this is what? A [57:55] letter that I got through that [57:55] process said Jason, the [57:59] communication you have. [58:01] Drafted looks good. I've made [58:02] a couple of changes to it. [58:03] Otherwise I believe it is [58:04] ready to be sent to the [58:06] council members. Sign. Kristy [58:13] Gavin. Attorney. What [58:14] Christine concerned that I'm [58:14] going to say to you or talk to [58:16] you about that? They got to [58:20] come to this and tell you that [58:20] you can't talk because of your [58:26] rules. Through public records [58:31] process. I did I did the rules [58:33] Council rules, Representative. [58:40] And this is what it says in 4. [58:42] Threes are. Thank u next like [58:46] our part. And then Jonelle [59:01] Keener after like copper. [59:04] >> 28th Councilmember Blake, [59:07] Harper information on file. [59:08] MR. PRESIDENT, I sure like to [59:08] get on board and get my [59:10] officers. You can set that up [59:12] for me and I I can hardly wait [59:13] to find out what happens when [59:15] lose all my hair. You know, [59:16] GOD said to a precious few [59:17] weekends gives within the rest [59:18] hair. There's a wise man right [59:19] over there, MR. Vice [59:24] PRESIDENT. Okay. So. But we [59:25] have a New York City is we [59:26] have a pro at mayor that has [59:27] said he's doing away with [59:28] individual and bringing on [59:30] collectivism. [59:34] >> remember and Rand 40 years [59:35] ago she told us this. What is [59:36] the basic world issue the [59:39] world today? The basic issue [59:41] in the world is between 2 [59:42] principles. Individual and [59:47] collectivism. Holds. That man [59:48] has inalienable rights which [59:49] cannot be taken away from him [59:52] nor any other man. [59:52] Collectivism holds. That man [59:55] has no rights. That's what's [59:58] going on in New York City. And [59:59] quite frankly, my friend who [1:00:01] just decided on the 28th [1:00:03] councilmember, it's part of [1:00:04] that crew down here in [1:00:05] Jacksonville will sot is as [1:00:06] well as well as Mike lot [1:00:09] Ludwick. The reality is we [1:00:10] have socialism coming to [1:00:11] Jacksonville. It's sweeping [1:00:16] over the nation. And we need [1:00:17] to understand what the role we [1:00:18] have as what you know we want [1:00:21] you all have is as government. [1:00:22] It comes down here to what is [1:00:22] the proper function of [1:00:24] government. The proper [1:00:28] function of government is to [1:00:28] protect individual rights of [1:00:31] man. That means to protect men [1:00:35] against brute force. And what [1:00:36] we see going on around ground [1:00:38] nation these days. You see the [1:00:42] Democrat Party and the leftist [1:00:42] fomenting the insurrection. [1:00:43] They claim happened 5 years [1:00:46] ago. They're standing against [1:00:47] ice. They're shooting at ice. [1:00:49] The running over ice. There [1:00:50] have been what law enforcement [1:00:52] officers who have been run [1:00:54] over all manner of [1:00:55] insurrection in rebellion is [1:00:58] happening in our nation. Each [1:00:59] of you has a responsibility to [1:01:00] protect our rights. I [1:01:01] certainly hope you will. Thank [1:01:03] you. Thank u next step kneel [1:01:07] Keener. Jonelle maybe Jonelle [1:01:17] Caner. Brooke. Avenue. And [1:01:18] then Kathleen Mary, after [1:01:23] Brooke. [1:01:24] >> Good evening. My name is [1:01:25] Brooke Baldwin on my address [1:01:27] is on the record and I've come [1:01:30] to talk to you about public [1:01:31] safe today. It's a very simple [1:01:34] issue. It's called civil [1:01:36] engineering civil engineering [1:01:39] determines the speed limit [1:01:42] from stoplight to stop like [1:01:43] that. If you travel app or [1:01:45] slightly below the speed [1:01:46] limit, you had a green light [1:01:49] almost every time. This is [1:01:52] seems to be an issue that [1:01:53] Basically unaware on the [1:01:57] public. Agenda. I would [1:01:59] recommend that the City [1:02:05] Council draft a simple metal. [1:02:07] 2 media let people know on a [1:02:09] regular basis what civil [1:02:09] injuring means and how it [1:02:13] works. The bonus is going to [1:02:16] be there's going to be less [1:02:18] road rage lesson jams at each [1:02:19] stop light and it's going to [1:02:23] be a lot more economically [1:02:27] feasible less wasting of fuel, [1:02:27] less wasting a ball of motor [1:02:30] parts break. Parts to [1:02:32] deteriorate. The machine. If [1:02:34] it's used to chat. Lee, it [1:02:36] lasts a lot longer. So the [1:02:39] benefits to public safety, the [1:02:40] public economy are quite [1:02:44] simple. Check with your civil [1:02:45] engineering crew to see if I'm [1:02:50] being honest or accurate. [1:02:51] Recommend put this out on a [1:02:51] regular basis through the [1:02:54] media. They can be helpful. [1:02:56] Tell them they're helping [1:02:57] civil values. Tell them [1:02:58] they're helping public safety [1:03:01] because the road rage. I see [1:03:05] the people that are going 70 [1:03:07] miles an hour in a 45 mile an [1:03:08] hour zone. That is not an [1:03:11] anomaly. So please pay [1:03:14] attention and help. Thank you [1:03:14] very much. Thank you, Sir. [1:03:21] Kathleen Marie. [1:03:21] >> Good evening. Kathleen [1:03:24] Marie address on file. I'm [1:03:26] going to engage in personally [1:03:27] directed speech, which is [1:03:28] constitutionally protected for [1:03:30] the 11th District Court of [1:03:32] Appeals in Moms for Liberty [1:03:35] versus the Brevard County [1:03:37] Public Schools as the state [1:03:38] education director for [1:03:39] citizens defending Freedom. [1:03:40] I'm here to address remarks [1:03:41] made by COUNCILMAN Areas [1:03:44] during the land use and Zoning [1:03:45] Committee meeting ordinance [1:03:48] 2025, 0, 6, 7, 5, during that [1:03:49] meeting council areas complain [1:03:50] that residents were, quote, [1:03:52] constantly always wanting the [1:03:53] same thing. He said he was, [1:03:56] quote, getting fed up and told [1:03:57] citizens that if you don't [1:03:58] want density, you should [1:04:02] quote, go somewhere else. The [1:04:02] First Amendment exist because [1:04:03] free speech and the right to [1:04:05] petition government are [1:04:07] essential when citizens [1:04:08] repeatedly raised the same [1:04:09] concerns. It is not a [1:04:10] disruption. It is a sign they [1:04:14] are not being heard. Citizens [1:04:15] defending Freedom empowers [1:04:17] citizens to defend their [1:04:18] liberty and place local [1:04:18] government back into the hands [1:04:21] of the people. What occurred [1:04:22] in that meeting showed public [1:04:25] input being dismissed rather [1:04:27] than respected. Well, apology [1:04:29] to the second district was an [1:04:30] order. There is a pattern of [1:04:30] disrespect to neighborhoods [1:04:33] throughout ball to include the [1:04:34] building of a morgue in the [1:04:35] residential neighborhood of [1:04:37] Brentwood. And more recently, [1:04:39] a slaughterhouse in a [1:04:40] residential area. Meanwhile, [1:04:43] the COUNCILMAN Said, quote, It [1:04:43] wouldn't be fair to tell [1:04:47] developers they can't build [1:04:47] the COUNCILMAN's own words [1:04:48] declared his loyalty to the [1:04:51] developers over the [1:04:52] constituents. If COUNCILMAN [1:04:53] Areas is unwilling to hear the [1:04:55] people most affected by these [1:04:56] decisions, then perhaps he [1:04:57] should take his own advice and [1:05:00] go somewhere else for these [1:05:02] remarks. We respectfully call [1:05:03] on COUNCILMAN Areas to step [1:05:03] down from the l Yeezy [1:05:07] Committee. Thank you. [1:05:08] >> This will be last call for [1:05:10] Jonelle. Keener is jonelle [1:05:12] here. She was going to speak [1:05:13] about 2025, 0, 6, 7, 5, which [1:05:14] we already took up at the [1:05:15] beginning. So imagine she left [1:05:16] after the vote. Joanne de [1:05:23] Angelo. And then after Joe and [1:05:23] I'll call the next 5 now, Reef [1:05:27] Nelson Peoples. Lisa Grant, [1:05:28] Sharon d# [1:05:28] # [1:05:28] # [1:05:28] # [1:05:30] , Angela Walker [1:05:31] and or else will be the next 5 [1:05:34] missed anslee. [1:05:37] >> I'm here to support 2025, [1:05:41] 0, 8, 6, 9, If these [1:05:44] installments are to continue, [1:05:45] they should be held in a [1:05:47] facility owned or operated by [1:05:48] the city so that it is [1:05:52] accessible to everyone. Since [1:05:53] taxpayers paid for the last [1:05:55] than you, it would have been [1:05:58] nice to have been invited. I'm [1:05:59] sure that my husband and I [1:06:02] would have been would have [1:06:02] enjoyed such a beautiful [1:06:07] event. We certainly wouldn't [1:06:07] have been able to go to such [1:06:11] an event like that because [1:06:15] we're both on fixed incomes. [1:06:18] It would also have been it [1:06:21] would also have taken me to [1:06:25] almost 2 years of my Social [1:06:28] Security just to pay the [1:06:30] $14,140. But the taxpayers me [1:06:35] and all of the all. For that [1:06:35] private venue for just one [1:06:39] night. I hope that you will [1:06:43] all vote. Yes for this and I [1:06:46] thank you for your time. [1:06:48] >> Thank u. Next up is Ruth [1:06:48] Nelson. People's followed by, [1:06:54] I believe its recent [1:06:55] >> Good evening roof. Now some [1:06:58] people's my addresses on file. [1:06:59] I'd like to ask for your [1:07:01] support on ordinance 2025. [1:07:04] '08, 6, 9, This ordinance [1:07:05] makes completes sense to me [1:07:08] for installation of vents. [1:07:09] Every single year. Events are [1:07:11] held in Jacksonville to [1:07:12] recognize the incoming [1:07:14] PRESIDENT Of the council and [1:07:16] to recognize committee [1:07:18] members. I am surprised that a [1:07:18] special event is held for [1:07:23] installations. Especially [1:07:24] since Erdos committee is [1:07:26] looking for ways to save [1:07:28] money. I did a bit of research [1:07:29] on how other counties in [1:07:31] Florida handled installations, [1:07:32] Palm Beach, Hillsborough, [1:07:36] Polk, Pinellas, Brevard and [1:07:39] Broward counties hold [1:07:40] installation events, regular [1:07:40] scheduled meetings that are [1:07:43] open to the public. Often [1:07:44] these for melodies are handled [1:07:47] during council meetings or [1:07:49] other regular county meetings [1:07:50] on county owned or city owned [1:07:53] property and then they get on [1:07:55] with handling the people's [1:07:56] business. There's no special [1:07:59] instant installation event. I [1:08:02] have a concern about the [1:08:04] $14,140 of taxpayer money that [1:08:06] was spent to rent a facility [1:08:08] this year. I realized that [1:08:09] city-owned venues also have [1:08:10] some associated costs, but not [1:08:14] typically this great just [1:08:15] because something isn't [1:08:17] illegal, doesn't make it [1:08:18] right. These are one year [1:08:22] positions one year. And as [1:08:22] we've seen this year, some [1:08:23] committee members aren't even [1:08:26] on the committee for a year. [1:08:27] Here are some compiled [1:08:29] expenses paid by taxpayers for [1:08:31] the last 4 years for [1:08:33] installation events that equal [1:08:34] $40,000 that we could have [1:08:39] spent on other things 2022. [1:08:42] Almost $6,000. Plus, 4500 for [1:08:45] damaged artwork. 2023 over [1:08:50] 11,500 2024, about 4,000 2025. [1:08:54] Over $14,000 spent many of us [1:08:56] have had to do some belt [1:08:57] tightening to live within our [1:09:03] means. Many of us have had to [1:09:05] eliminate pleasures that we [1:09:07] previously enjoyed to finance. [1:09:08] More important concerns like [1:09:11] food and how house housing [1:09:13] City government is no [1:09:16] different passing. This [1:09:17] ordinance will prevent [1:09:17] questions in the future and [1:09:20] will save taxpayers money and [1:09:21] still a bit. Installation [1:09:23] events should be held in a [1:09:24] city building where everyone [1:09:25] has the opportunity and access [1:09:29] to a 10. It should reduce the [1:09:31] use of private funds to [1:09:32] finance such an event from [1:09:34] individuals who MAY be seeking [1:09:35] future favors and would be an [1:09:36] advantage to any COUNCILMAN [1:09:39] Doing the work of the people [1:09:40] for the people as it would [1:09:42] reduce impropriety questions. [1:09:43] Thank you. Thank you. Next to [1:09:48] Presa Grant. [1:09:49] >> COUNCILMAN Clark, Mary [1:09:50] would like to see in the Green [1:09:53] Room. It's great. You're up [1:09:59] next. [1:10:00] >> Good evening. I'm recent [1:10:02] grant address on file. I [1:10:03] support the passage of [1:10:06] ordinance 2025. A 69, the [1:10:07] special committee on Duval. [1:10:09] Those was established last [1:10:10] MARCH to analyze recent growth [1:10:12] and city departments and [1:10:14] programs as well as evaluate [1:10:16] services provided for the [1:10:18] purposes of identify areas for [1:10:19] potential savings. Clearly [1:10:20] there was reason to believe [1:10:22] there was that that needed to [1:10:24] be cut. I support that. And I [1:10:24] don't think there are too many [1:10:27] people who wouldn't want to [1:10:27] see our government budget [1:10:29] trimmed down to lean but not [1:10:31] mean. And I realize there will [1:10:32] always be debate among people [1:10:32] with differing opinions on [1:10:36] wants versus needs and [1:10:38] ostentatious installation [1:10:39] ceremony of the council. [1:10:39] PRESIDENT And vice PRESIDENT [1:10:40] Seem right for savings [1:10:43] opportunities to me. In MARCH [1:10:44] 2025. Neither the new [1:10:45] PRESIDENT Nor the new vice [1:10:47] PRESIDENT Were Duval. Those [1:10:49] committee members. But I [1:10:50] imagine they participated in [1:10:51] committee assignments and [1:10:52] therefore, we're fully aware [1:10:53] of Duval toes and its [1:10:56] mandates. Disappointed that so [1:10:57] soon after the creation of the [1:10:59] do special committee last [1:11:02] MARCH, more than $14,000 [1:11:03] 14,000 taxpayer dollars were [1:11:04] spent towards an installation [1:11:05] ceremony that could have and [1:11:09] some will say should have been [1:11:10] held in a facility owned or [1:11:12] operated by the city. There [1:11:14] was an opportunity to save [1:11:15] Jacksonville citizens money [1:11:16] but also provide the public, [1:11:17] the media and the disabled [1:11:18] access to what should be a [1:11:21] public event. I'm a proponent [1:11:22] of cutting unnecessary costs, [1:11:24] which is why do was [1:11:26] implemented? I believe every [1:11:26] person here today wants to see [1:11:27] the tightest most prudent use [1:11:30] of the city's budget. I [1:11:31] strongly support and have full [1:11:32] confidence in this 19 member [1:11:35] council's vote in favor this [1:11:37] responsible legislation and [1:11:39] savings opportunity. Let's [1:11:40] show the citizens Jacksonville [1:11:42] that every council member here [1:11:44] is unequivocally support of a [1:11:44] fiscal responsibility of [1:11:46] Jacksonville. Taxpayers [1:11:48] dollars. Jacksonville has many [1:11:49] needs, but a lavish [1:11:49] installation ceremony of [1:11:51] council leadership isn't one [1:11:53] of them. And with installation [1:11:55] ceremony is being a regular [1:11:56] occurrence. Jacksonville [1:11:57] simply cannot afford this [1:11:59] practice every year. Let's [1:12:00] find city-owned or city [1:12:01] operated facilities that are [1:12:03] in not profit oriented and get [1:12:07] the job done. Swear the person [1:12:09] and have a drink snack. Take a [1:12:10] few photos. Give an interview [1:12:11] or 2 and let's get back to [1:12:13] work that would show us. You [1:12:14] mean business? Look, it's [1:12:15] pretty simple. We all have to [1:12:19] trim the fat it home. We are [1:12:20] finding less expensive ways of [1:12:20] doing more everyday. We think [1:12:24] you can too. And we expect it [1:12:25] to be responsible and [1:12:26] transparent stewards of the [1:12:27] funds of this great city of [1:12:28] ours. We put our faith in you [1:12:31] with our vote. Please take [1:12:32] this responsibility seriously [1:12:34] and use your time in office [1:12:36] wisely when people see [1:12:39] themselves in you, their [1:12:40] elected officials beef and you [1:12:41] really double. And that [1:12:41] connection earns you their [1:12:42] vote at the ballot box next [1:12:46] time. Thank you for your time. [1:12:46] Thank next up share index [1:13:01] followed by Angela Walker. [1:13:13] >> Good evening. Sure. And I [1:13:15] think that's my entrance. On [1:13:18] file, I want first think. [1:13:20] COUNCILMAN Johnson for coming [1:13:23] 2, I think talk last name. I [1:13:27] didn't remember Talk 10 years. [1:13:29] And and we spawn that's never [1:13:33] really concentrate. That's the [1:13:35] plan. And so appreciate him [1:13:39] growing As you have heard [1:13:43] about connection. Plus. And [1:13:44] too, would like us to go back [1:13:46] to the original model. We've [1:13:49] heard about cost. I want to [1:13:51] break that down for you. I [1:13:55] worked full time. It. I live [1:13:59] over 15 miles for my job. So [1:14:04] it would cost me $320 a week. [1:14:08] To take transportation. 300, [1:14:11] $20 a week. To go to work. So [1:14:14] I ask you. It's another from [1:14:19] hole. The amendment votes. And [1:14:21] now you support me. I went to [1:14:25] light even work. Some This is [1:14:29] not a privilege. It is a [1:14:31] right. We have a right to [1:14:33] work. We have a right to have [1:14:34] social activities. This [1:14:36] affects our quality of I would [1:14:40] ask that you. Work with j t a [1:14:41] to come up with a reasonable [1:14:44] solution. To reducing the cost [1:14:48] of the program. You a lot of [1:14:50] money and to the vehicles. [1:14:51] What about the rest of us? [1:14:53] What about the ones they're [1:14:57] here now? Need this important. [1:14:58] I would ask that you take a [1:15:02] look at this. And work with tt [1:15:03] it to come up with a solution [1:15:05] that works for all of us. At [1:15:07] the end of the day, can we [1:15:10] discern and transportation [1:15:11] will affect our quality of [1:15:12] life. Our access to [1:15:16] employment. Education, medical [1:15:19] care. I on the right to live [1:15:23] just you do. I have a right to [1:15:25] go work and come home without [1:15:27] spending 4 hours [1:15:29] transportation. What do you [1:15:30] want to spend 4 hours [1:15:33] transportation? I worked an [1:15:36] eight-hour day. I don't even 2 [1:15:40] hours to get home. So I'm once [1:15:42] again in 20 the police take [1:15:45] the tumble. So you jta for [1:15:48] what and come up with a [1:15:51] solution and what's us? [1:15:52] >> Thank you, MADAM. Next up, [1:15:56] Angela Walker. After Angelo be [1:16:11] Jose Morales. [1:16:13] But it's service [1:16:14] that we have the ability to [1:16:14] lower and raise that podium. [1:16:29] Can we help out? [1:16:50] >> Good evening. My name is [1:16:52] Angela Walker in my addresses [1:16:54] on file. I would like to take [1:16:54] a few minutes just to [1:16:56] reiterate everything that [1:16:59] Sharon has said. But I think [1:17:04] that it's important that I [1:17:05] speak for those who can speak [1:17:07] for themselves. There's a [1:17:11] reason why the jt connection [1:17:13] plus is so valuable to those [1:17:17] of us who noble. And it is [1:17:17] because is it offers us an [1:17:21] opportunity. Not to have to [1:17:24] ride with others. Some of us [1:17:27] have disabilities that. Well, [1:17:30] not allow to be on shared [1:17:35] rides. Some of us have [1:17:35] disability that we're constant [1:17:42] pain. And so when when you say [1:17:43] okay, well, come go to work [1:17:48] and then work go home drive [1:17:49] for 3 hours. It's just not [1:17:51] something that's manageable, [1:17:53] even though we would like to [1:17:58] do that. So I ask. Want to say [1:17:59] out of respect. Thank you. [1:18:02] Also for MISTER Johnson for [1:18:05] being there at the meeting. [1:18:06] And I would just ask if [1:18:07] there's anything you guys can [1:18:11] do to help or support jta care [1:18:14] for writing better services [1:18:17] for us, whether it be through. [1:18:21] Combination of that 2 rides or [1:18:22] whatever. There's got to be [1:18:24] something better. Then what's [1:18:27] being proposed at the moment? [1:18:28] And I look forward to working [1:18:31] in. Supporting and advocating [1:18:33] in whatever way that I can as [1:18:36] a citizen of Jacksonville who [1:18:38] absolutely deserves to have [1:18:42] the same type of job life [1:18:45] next. Person to support my [1:18:47] ability to do so. And my [1:18:47] independent. So I think you [1:18:52] very much. [1:18:53] >> Next will be Jose Morales [1:18:55] and the next 5 after that, [1:18:58] Joseph George, Nancy Marie [1:18:59] Settle Liddy, Lydia Bell. [1:19:00] Lance Felt in Jamie Travis [1:19:15] Leonard. [1:19:20] >> Thank First of all, thank [1:19:21] you, council PRESIDENT, thank [1:19:21] you to the whole counsel for [1:19:23] the off with this attention to [1:19:25] this matter. My name is Jose [1:19:25] Morales. Midas on file on the [1:19:28] director of development for [1:19:31] the Center Independent Living [1:19:31] Jacksonville and many [1:19:33] constituents with disabilities [1:19:36] all say most of this the [1:19:37] community across, although of [1:19:40] the groups are affected by the [1:19:41] current changes, Jacksonville [1:19:41] transportation authorities are [1:19:43] doing to their transit This [1:19:46] change is giving 2019 because [1:19:47] of the insufficient or lack of [1:19:50] quality of service on time [1:19:52] performance and many other [1:19:55] situations with pair transit [1:19:55] during that time to implement [1:19:58] that connection. Plus, which [1:20:01] honestly I provided not only [1:20:02] independence, but it real [1:20:06] world access to our community [1:20:06] because of that. Now people [1:20:07] depend on it point [1:20:10] appointment, health care. And [1:20:11] honestly just participation. [1:20:15] Our community. We hope that I [1:20:18] and my ask that hopefully I [1:20:21] COUNCILMAN Johnson COUNCILMAN [1:20:21] Cano Maryland, many other [1:20:22] council members. I've been [1:20:23] reaching out to this. I hope [1:20:24] that we in the future can [1:20:28] continue help our come up with [1:20:28] solutions and me in the future [1:20:31] about this issue. I hope you [1:20:35] know, we stakeholders from all [1:20:35] the disability groups have [1:20:38] provided to jta different [1:20:40] solutions for cost. We [1:20:41] understand that we need to cut [1:20:43] cost. And when understand the [1:20:45] efficiency needs to bottom [1:20:46] line and we have provided [1:20:47] solutions for that. We [1:20:48] provided attendance for that. [1:20:50] We're willing to work with [1:20:52] them. And we hope that we can [1:20:53] work with us City Council for [1:20:54] Oversight and leadership in [1:20:56] this matter. We thank you for [1:20:57] your for that for everything [1:20:58] you're doing and we hope that [1:20:59] you continue to help us with [1:21:00] Thank you. Thank u next step [1:21:13] Joseph George. [1:21:15] >> My name is Joe. The MAY Co [1:21:17] do it. PRESIDENT On North [1:21:18] Florida, Central Labor [1:21:19] Council. My address is on [1:21:22] file. The north, Florida [1:21:24] Central Labor Council. So [1:21:30] there's by district. And we [1:21:30] represent close to 32,000 [1:21:34] union members. First, I'd like [1:21:37] to thank j a for designating [1:21:40] today is g a senior day by [1:21:42] providing flu and singles [1:21:45] vaccine to our seniors. The [1:21:47] noaa, Florida Central Labor [1:21:48] Council is here tonight to [1:21:50] stand in solidarity with [1:21:53] cleanup local 6.30, in their [1:21:58] contract negotiation with jta. [1:21:59] Contract negotiations very [1:22:01] important for employees and [1:22:04] the bin says. When they're the [1:22:06] mutual agreement concerning [1:22:08] wages. I working condition. [1:22:10] You have a happy and [1:22:13] productive employee. With the [1:22:15] cost of living rising every [1:22:20] day. Jta workers needs a fair [1:22:25] contract. You a look at 30. [1:22:26] He's ready to negotiate in [1:22:31] good faith. And we asked a jta [1:22:31] come back to negotiation [1:22:37] table. Early in my Bear is he [1:22:38] talked about wanting to meet [1:22:40] would be council and they with [1:22:46] you. High of them. We have. [1:22:47] Legal opinion as to why you [1:22:53] should it. The Constitution [1:22:54] and statutory rights of union [1:22:56] representative and elected [1:22:58] officials to communicate with [1:23:00] each other cannot be a bridge [1:23:01] are restricted by the public [1:23:04] employees chatter rules. [1:23:11] Management. A public employer. [1:23:12] Charter audit has ruled policy [1:23:15] manager cannot Trump. Konta [1:23:17] being the state and federal [1:23:19] which guarantee to right to [1:23:25] meet. Therefore, it is [1:23:26] important that the city [1:23:27] council go to their calendar [1:23:29] and place a date to meet with [1:23:34] us. Also, we request that [1:23:35] continue to bargain in good [1:23:39] faith. And finally, I'd just [1:23:42] like to Thank brother Raul [1:23:45] areas apologizing. The public [1:23:49] really appreciate that. Thank [1:23:52] u next. Nancy Marie Settle. [1:24:03] And then Levy about. [1:24:03] >> Man summary set all [1:24:07] addresses on file. I urge you [1:24:10] to vote no to to requests from [1:24:11] the sheriff's department [1:24:12] ordinances. 25, 0, 8, 9, to [1:24:21] 26. 3, 9 one has to accept [1:24:22] grants for 2 positions to [1:24:26] analyze surveillance data. Fed [1:24:28] into the Fusion centers. The [1:24:31] other is to accept a grant for [1:24:33] a van to transport detainees [1:24:37] to are deportation camps. I am [1:24:38] really hurt, broken watching [1:24:40] what is happening to our [1:24:42] country today. Federal agents [1:24:43] are escalating, dangerous [1:24:47] encounters with citizens. We [1:24:48] all saw ice agents shoot and [1:24:51] kill an American mother with 3 [1:24:52] bullets to her face and then [1:24:54] call her I'm not going to [1:24:57] repeat it. You heard it. Ice [1:25:00] has become a domestic [1:25:02] terrorist group full military [1:25:04] group gear pepper spray, mass [1:25:07] hygiene, identity. This is not [1:25:09] my America. 2.87 g Agreement [1:25:11] have basically turned our [1:25:12] local law enforcement into [1:25:15] ice. I heard out in full force [1:25:19] today. Jacksonville actually [1:25:21] has U.S. 300 flock cameras [1:25:21] that surveil us as we drive [1:25:25] around this town. All of us [1:25:26] that information is then fed [1:25:27] into databases. Infusion [1:25:31] centers that analyzer [1:25:32] movements. This information [1:25:36] isn't shared between agencies. [1:25:38] >> Including dhs and ice. Big [1:25:39] Brother is watching wherever [1:25:39] you are in the eye of law [1:25:41] enforcement is on. You. This [1:25:45] is not my America. When [1:25:46] protesting against tyranny and [1:25:48] governmental abuse becomes a [1:25:52] crime. When being anti fascist [1:25:54] becomes terrorism. We need to [1:25:55] ask ourselves what we're doing [1:25:59] and how we are supporting this [1:25:59] machinery that allows U.S. [1:26:03] Government overreach. Somehow [1:26:05] we have accepted that anything [1:26:05] the sheriff's department asked [1:26:08] for we should give them. Let's [1:26:10] take a pause on accepting [1:26:13] these state grants and told [1:26:14] dhs and ice Act within the [1:26:19] rules of law stop terrorizing [1:26:21] citizens, stop violating our [1:26:25] civil rights, stop shooting [1:26:26] unarmed citizens and acting [1:26:29] like reject these grants. [1:26:30] These grants are designed to [1:26:34] uphold fascism. The machinery [1:26:37] of fascism we see and support [1:26:38] a tear and a call occupation [1:26:39] of our cities by a corrupt [1:26:43] regime. Remember the gas [1:26:44] chambers where the end, not [1:26:46] the beginnings, stop it. Now. [1:27:01] >> Lidia Bill. [1:27:04] Good evening. [1:27:05] At first came to city council [1:27:12] in 20. 23. It is now 2026. 3 [1:27:15] years and instead of things [1:27:16] getting better, things have [1:27:18] gotten worse. For 3 years. Our [1:27:20] battle has been. [1:27:24] >> And ethical Morrow. [1:27:26] >> Decency, a bad, bad, allow [1:27:29] protests. Now our battle. It's [1:27:33] fight for our lives being [1:27:34] exposed and transporting [1:27:37] dantley explosive chemicals [1:27:40] around children and around our [1:27:44] homes, decomposing holders, [1:27:44] chemical vapors from embalming [1:27:49] bomb and you now alright lab [1:27:52] at the now and saddling. And [1:27:53] I'm sure most of don't know [1:27:54] what these chemicals eels [1:27:55] like. I don't need to, but [1:27:59] they're neighborhood. They're [1:28:00] back our children. They're [1:28:01] coming into our bodies and [1:28:07] into our homes. Elbow and [1:28:07] packages doing up properties, [1:28:08] especially of tuberculosis. [1:28:12] Corbett, 19 hepatitis. This a [1:28:15] severe inbound mental problem [1:28:17] in Brentwood and at no time [1:28:20] should this 300 body more? And [1:28:22] for him to clap be placed in [1:28:26] It around people and it 20 [1:28:29] issues in Jacksonville, [1:28:31] Florida, the largest city in [1:28:32] the world pass where Mao and [1:28:35] nobody could stop it. So what [1:28:37] type of governing body do? We [1:28:41] We could do bad what we need [1:28:45] to pay City Council people to [1:28:45] break allows to bring this [1:28:49] type of doubt in neighborhood [1:28:49] around children around our [1:28:56] homes. So now. Although your [1:28:58] relatives, friends, business [1:29:01] call hurts, are you even you [1:29:02] can enjoy 63 million dollars [1:29:06] to place our labs in danger, [1:29:08] particularly doing hurricane [1:29:12] season. Nobody thought about [1:29:12] that. Our care is not about [1:29:16] about. It's about caring. You [1:29:18] can go on and enjoy your [1:29:19] laughed as we continue to [1:29:21] fight for our we need. New [1:29:24] leadership next election. We [1:29:26] need people who are going to [1:29:30] care about all citizens in [1:29:31] Jacksonville. Wow. We pan due [1:29:34] to do worst and worse. It our [1:29:38] deal. Lance felt. And then [1:29:44] Jamie Travis Leonard. [1:29:45] >> Good evening. My name is [1:29:46] Lance felt address on record [1:29:47] and the business manager for [1:29:48] sheet metal workers local 4. [1:29:50] 35 here in Jacksonville and [1:29:50] the PRESIDENT Other North [1:29:54] Florida, building trades, come [1:29:55] to you. [1:29:55] >> Talk about my favorite [1:29:57] topic, apprenticeship, [1:29:58] registered apprenticeship. [1:30:00] This year's huge for of what a [1:30:01] North Florida building tries. [1:30:03] We will be celebrating our [1:30:05] 75th graduation here [1:30:06] Jacksonville. We've got to [1:30:08] wear 120 apprentices [1:30:11] graduating on MAY 29th 2026. [1:30:12] Each one of you will be [1:30:12] invited to that graduation. I [1:30:17] hope you accept graduation. [1:30:18] When it comes apprenticeship. [1:30:19] I just want to throw some [1:30:19] numbers out here and I know [1:30:20] couple you councilmembers know [1:30:23] these numbers, but 41% of [1:30:24] construction workers are going [1:30:27] be retired and next 5 years. [1:30:28] 56% of construction workers [1:30:30] across United States will be [1:30:33] reaching retirement age. This [1:30:36] is the year we should address [1:30:36] apprenticeship programs and [1:30:37] apprenticeship language within [1:30:39] city projects and move [1:30:40] forward. We're asking to let's [1:30:43] start the conversation on the [1:30:44] present registered [1:30:45] apprenticeship city funded [1:30:46] projects. And let's let's [1:30:49] solve this problem. If we [1:30:50] don't solve this problem, we [1:30:53] will see more out of town [1:30:54] license plates here in [1:30:56] Jacksonville working on a [1:30:57] project, we will see more [1:30:58] illegal immigration coming to [1:30:59] Jacksonville building these [1:31:00] projects and each one of you [1:31:00] should care about that. So [1:31:04] let's let's. Let's get this [1:31:05] started. The startup a's. [1:31:06] Let's move Jacksonville [1:31:08] forward. Thank you. [1:31:10] >> Thank u next step is Jamie [1:31:11] Travis Leonard in the 5 after [1:31:13] that, John, many Nick Harding. [1:31:18] Lake past Jennifer Jones. And [1:31:18] Sully show Young Jamie [1:31:19] translator. [1:31:23] >> Thank you. Good evening. [1:31:23] City councilmembers. I don't [1:31:26] like to use my name is Jamie [1:31:27] Travis Leonard, my addresses [1:31:29] on file my first time actively [1:31:30] involved in government was at [1:31:35] the age of 16 in the year 2007 [1:31:35] and flashback. When the [1:31:36] Florida legislative session [1:31:41] past. 7, 9, 4, point 0, 5, aka [1:31:45] the Romeo and Juliet law for [1:31:45] those that don't know, the [1:31:47] statue is as follows unlawful [1:31:49] sexual activity with certain [1:31:51] minors. Person 24 years of age [1:31:53] or older who engaged in sexual [1:31:54] activity with a person 16 or [1:31:55] 17 years of age commits a [1:31:58] felony of the second degree. [1:31:59] According to the Committee of [1:32:00] Criminal Justice, Florida's [1:32:02] Romeo and Juliet Law was [1:32:03] created during the 2000 [1:32:05] legislate 2007 legislative [1:32:06] session to address concerns [1:32:09] about high school age youth [1:32:10] being labeled a sex offenders [1:32:11] are sexual predators as a [1:32:11] result of a participating in a [1:32:13] consensual sexual [1:32:15] relationship. Who knew we had [1:32:16] so many? 23 year-old high [1:32:18] schoolers. Public education, I [1:32:23] guess. I was so appalled by [1:32:24] the statute that when it [1:32:25] passed, I wrote an article [1:32:26] about it for my high school [1:32:27] newspaper. That's right. Paper [1:32:29] paper, friends. [1:32:31] >> I bring this up. [1:32:34] >> That legislation is not new [1:32:39] harmful legislation is not You [1:32:40] have an opportunity this [1:32:41] session to champion [1:32:41] legislation that provides [1:32:42] relief to our overburdened [1:32:45] health care system. You have [1:32:47] the opportunity to provide [1:32:48] legislation that addresses the [1:32:51] lack of affordability in our [1:32:53] housing market. You have the [1:32:54] opportunity to champion [1:32:56] legislation that eliminates [1:32:57] food scarcity. [1:32:58] >> You could even champion [1:32:59] legislation that strengthens [1:33:00] our public education. So we [1:33:01] don't have these 23 year-old [1:33:01] heist. [1:33:05] >> Coolers. And you have the [1:33:06] opportunity to champion [1:33:08] legislation that improves [1:33:08] accessible transportation as [1:33:10] some people have asked you to. [1:33:12] You have all this opportunity, [1:33:15] don't blow it. [1:33:21] >> Joan, many. [1:33:27] >> Below. I am John [1:33:28] philanthropic. [1:33:28] >> Jelly roll. Good boy [1:33:32] resiliency. New knee. [1:33:33] >> 83. 56 pass Cumru [1:33:34] Jacksonville, Florida, 3, 2, [1:33:36] 2, 1, 6, the council district, [1:33:36] 4 cpac, 3 school board [1:33:42] district 3. Fix is gone in d c [1:33:44] j. Duval County, Jacksonville. [1:33:46] Now I went to an ethics [1:33:48] commission meeting agenda [1:33:51] item. 51 2026. 0, 0, 4, one [1:33:53] and asked and you can ask or [1:33:54] be overdue for Paige Johnson. [1:33:56] We have 60 packs representing [1:33:59] the city of Jacksonville. I [1:34:00] mean, cpac, 3 Raymond, a truth [1:34:03] Commission. We have the [1:34:06] mayor's Disability Council. [1:34:09] The Council on Elder Affairs, [1:34:11] the senior citizen, gay Robin [1:34:13] Land on the old, you know, the [1:34:16] most vulnerable among us. Why [1:34:21] is Ogc? Office of General [1:34:23] Counsel not represented at [1:34:27] these meetings. PRESIDENT [1:34:30] Donald j Trump Governor Ron [1:34:32] DeSantis, Joe Johnson arrow. [1:34:35] Pardon new Now I'll be [1:34:41] touching on agenda items. [1:34:45] 2025, 0, 8, 6, 7, That's dcps, [1:34:47] you know, and what this is for [1:34:48] the handouts, the cip its [1:34:50] classrooms and pots bird. Nick [1:34:52] Allen, Admiral Land and [1:34:54] Colonel Miller Charter school [1:34:56] public school field trip Park. [1:34:57] It's brilliant. This is a [1:35:01] statewide issue. Okay. Number [1:35:03] 11, 2025, 0, 8, 8, 1, Main [1:35:04] Street bridge. That's tourism [1:35:10] stuff. Cage and item 16, 17, [1:35:12] 1920, 21. 22 2025, 0, 8, 9, 1, [1:35:14] that he equestrian center. [1:35:15] 12th member. Better [1:35:19] Jacksonville Plan. 27 2025, 0, [1:35:25] 8, 9, 7, k a new park. 29 [1:35:30] 2025, 0, 9, 102.4 million. 35 [1:35:32] 40, 2025, 0, 8, 7, 6, That's [1:35:34] the Armory. Hogans Creek, not [1:35:38] and waterways. 2013, 3.84 [1:35:40] tonight. I'm sure to win 50 to [1:35:43] 53. 56. 64 66 70 98. Just down [1:35:45] to 20 some seconds. Dozier [1:35:50] waterways. Save Rodman Dam and [1:35:55] feed the manatees. We're just [1:35:55] getting ready to tell the [1:35:58] world. Visit Florida. Thank [1:36:11] you for listening. Nick [1:36:14] Harding, energy for Duval [1:36:15] Tribune. I'm here to talk to [1:36:16] you guys about some of the [1:36:16] boards and commissions in the [1:36:20] city I went to the truth [1:36:21] Commission meeting for the [1:36:23] first time ever. Probably last [1:36:23] time. It was the most boring [1:36:26] thing I've ever been to. [1:36:28] >> But they passed a rule [1:36:30] basically. I think I'm I'm [1:36:32] assuming trying punish MISTER [1:36:33] New near stop him from talking [1:36:34] because nobody else gets up [1:36:34] and speaks. Well, basically [1:36:37] the rule they pass was too. [1:36:37] Try to force anybody getting [1:36:40] up to speak to limit their, [1:36:42] you know what they say too, [1:36:44] something that's before the [1:36:46] board. And if not, they have [1:36:47] to email It was something [1:36:47] weird like that. And it was [1:36:48] almost unanimous. There was [1:36:49] only one, you know, dissenting [1:36:50] vote. Speaking of dissenting [1:36:54] votes. All every single board [1:36:55] and commission throughout this [1:36:58] city. Every vote is unanimous. [1:37:02] >> Je a jta j a. [1:37:05] >> Every single vote is [1:37:06] unanimous. And jta is the [1:37:07] obviously the worst offender [1:37:09] because, you know, brought out [1:37:10] in a lot of people who are [1:37:13] going to be punished by stupid [1:37:15] policy decision. But it goes [1:37:16] to show that, you know, being [1:37:18] stupid as bipartisan because [1:37:20] jta is half appointed by the [1:37:21] mayor. Half appointed by the [1:37:25] governor and what do you know? [1:37:27] Each one of them managed put [1:37:29] 3. On the board who can't seem [1:37:30] to like put together a [1:37:33] coherent thought to dissent [1:37:34] and say, hey, maybe for want [1:37:35] to face a budget shortfall [1:37:38] mean we shouldn't cut the [1:37:40] services that are serving poor [1:37:41] people and the disabled it. We [1:37:43] should cut the stupid van. The [1:37:45] drives back and forth for like [1:37:46] 2 miles downtown. It's ending [1:37:46] up with 100 million dollars [1:37:49] something like that. So you [1:37:52] got me to get these boards [1:37:52] under control. And I say the [1:37:55] first thing you guys should do [1:37:56] if you should go out and you [1:37:58] should remove all 3 mayoral [1:38:02] appointees from jta and like a [1:38:04] j bill up to remove all the [1:38:05] gubernatorial appointees to [1:38:10] jta. Jta as well. As well. But [1:38:11] all these people need to go [1:38:12] because they're stupid and [1:38:25] they're useless. Like best. [1:38:26] >> Good evening. Members of [1:38:27] the council. My name is Blake [1:38:30] Bass. My addresses on file. I [1:38:30] stand before you today as a [1:38:34] member of the true condition. [1:38:36] I do I did not speak on behalf [1:38:37] of the commission, but as a [1:38:40] representative of myself alone [1:38:41] and to MISTER Harding's point, [1:38:42] I was the only no vote in [1:38:44] that. So just knowing. So I'm [1:38:46] I'm the good guy. A little [1:38:48] over 3 months ago, I was [1:38:49] appointed to the true [1:38:51] condition with a promise that [1:38:53] i would deliver a report to [1:38:54] you in 3 months. Time on the [1:38:55] findings over this last [1:38:56] quarter. And today I stand [1:38:59] before you to do just that. 2 [1:39:00] of my top concerns were [1:39:01] landscaping and mowing and [1:39:02] parks and rec. 2 city [1:39:07] essentials. Over this time, I [1:39:08] had the ability to meet with [1:39:09] various city departments to [1:39:11] learn the ins and outs of city [1:39:13] government. And I was proud to [1:39:14] see the passion and in our [1:39:15] city employees a passion to [1:39:18] make the city a better place. [1:39:19] At the same time, I also heard [1:39:22] their concerns. Were there [1:39:23] while there was funding in [1:39:24] place to keep these [1:39:26] departments funded and [1:39:29] efficient. It was my opinion. [1:39:30] That it still lacked the [1:39:30] resources and funding needed [1:39:33] to be fully effective. At our [1:39:35] last true commission meeting, [1:39:38] we discussed jt a's 19 million [1:39:40] dollar budget shortfall. [1:39:43] 19 million dollars Council. [1:39:45] Directly related to the [1:39:46] funding of the nab, Autonomous [1:39:48] Vehicle project. How can [1:39:52] anyone? Justify spending this [1:39:54] much money on an essential [1:39:57] non-essential special project. [1:40:00] When we have ditches medians [1:40:01] roads and communities, they're [1:40:02] not asking for a handout. But [1:40:05] for the services promise to [1:40:08] them in our city. Charter. As [1:40:09] young man aspiring to help [1:40:12] lead this city forward. I fear [1:40:12] that if we don't address this [1:40:14] now. We pushed to my [1:40:19] generation. Thank u next up, [1:40:28] Jennifer Jones. Jennifer Jones [1:40:31] by addresses on file. I'm here [1:40:32] today to talk about schools of [1:40:35] hope. Schools of Hope is the [1:40:36] privatization pretending to be [1:40:40] reform. It distributes public [1:40:41] moaning, public land and [1:40:42] public power and give some to [1:40:46] private charter operators. [1:40:47] >> All I public schools that [1:40:48] are communities rely are [1:40:48] purposely starved for [1:40:52] resources. When still schools [1:40:54] struggle. It's not because [1:40:54] they failed. It's because the [1:40:55] state is chose not to fund [1:41:00] them. Instead of investing in [1:41:01] underfunded school. The state [1:41:04] uses it as an excuse to say [1:41:06] fun students, buildings and [1:41:06] stability away from [1:41:07] democratically run public [1:41:10] schools. The system is rigged [1:41:12] by design. Schools of hope are [1:41:15] exempt from most educational [1:41:17] laws. Local oversight, [1:41:18] staffing standards, zoning [1:41:21] rules and even property taxes. [1:41:22] However, public schools are [1:41:23] expected to carry every [1:41:25] responsibility. Charter [1:41:29] operators get to use the free [1:41:30] use of Duval County school [1:41:30] buildings and maintenance [1:41:35] funding. Well, districts lia's [1:41:36] assets and still carry the [1:41:38] long-term cost. It is a direct [1:41:41] transfer of public wealth into [1:41:42] private hands, education as a [1:41:45] public. Good, not a commodity. [1:41:47] I urge everyone to contact [1:41:48] their representatives and ask [1:41:48] for schools hope to be [1:41:53] repealed. Thank you. Next [1:41:54] steps, Alice, a young Jones [1:41:55] and then Clarence Long. And [1:42:00] then that Perez. [1:42:01] >> Good evening. My name is [1:42:02] leisha young Jones. My home [1:42:03] address is 14, 20 Linden [1:42:05] Avenue in Saint Nicholas. But [1:42:08] I come before you today as a [1:42:09] business owner in downtown [1:42:10] Jacksonville, the Rainbow [1:42:11] Wedding Chapel and Rainbow [1:42:14] Notary nuptials network. The [1:42:14] reason for me coming here [1:42:17] today and once again, hello [1:42:18] and happy New Year. It's great [1:42:19] to see all of you. Wonderful [1:42:20] people in. Thank you for your [1:42:24] service to our great city. The [1:42:25] purpose for me being here [1:42:26] today is to ask you to take a [1:42:27] look at the signage. [1:42:30] Legislation that you have in [1:42:31] place. Did you know that a [1:42:34] simple sandwich board is [1:42:35] illegal? You can't put a [1:42:37] simple sandwich board outside [1:42:38] your business or even a [1:42:39] sandwich board us a meatball. [1:42:41] Subs are 3.99 today. Sandwich [1:42:43] board is against Jacksonville [1:42:48] law. You can't have a sign in [1:42:51] your window. It's light. Did [1:42:51] the changes? You know, the [1:42:55] words I do, fbi background [1:42:58] checks, fdle level 2 checks, [1:43:01] notary remote online notary at [1:43:02] the state. And I have a sign [1:43:05] that says that they're not [1:43:06] allowed to have a moving sign [1:43:08] in your window. You're not [1:43:09] allowed to have a sign that [1:43:19] says p so I'm asking you to [1:43:20] please send me in the [1:43:23] direction that I need to go to [1:43:25] to help get this MR. Is my [1:43:29] council person. But what I'm [1:43:30] talking about is business for [1:43:33] all of it. Let all of this [1:43:34] entire city. And you know, [1:43:38] when I moved here in 2003. [1:43:40] From Atlanta, I said, you [1:43:41] know, Jacksonville kind [1:43:41] reminds me of Atlanta about 35 [1:43:48] years ago. And now in 2026, [1:43:49] Jacksonville kind reminds me [1:43:53] of Atlanta about 50 years ago. [1:43:54] City is in such a position to [1:43:56] be great. [1:43:59] >> We have a port. We have [1:44:03] rail. We have interstates. We [1:44:04] have good weather. Most of the [1:44:07] time and we have a workforce [1:44:08] that's here with a million [1:44:12] people in our area. So my [1:44:13] request is to you is to please [1:44:16] allow business to be business. [1:44:17] I know we don't want to see [1:44:17] downtown Jacksonville look [1:44:19] like downtown Las Vegas, but [1:44:21] I'm just asking you as a [1:44:23] business owner to help me be [1:44:25] allowed to put out a simple [1:44:29] sandwich board that says. Home [1:44:30] of the $100 Express weddings [1:44:31] right here at the Rainbow [1:44:34] Wedding Chapel or you know, [1:44:37] level 2 background checks for [1:44:38] fingerprinting. So, you know, [1:44:39] that's my that's my question [1:44:41] to you is if you can, please [1:44:41] direct me to how I can be [1:44:44] helped. Thank you. [1:44:45] >> Council member Matt [1:44:46] Carlucci would like to talk to [1:44:46] in the Green Room. Clarence [1:44:50] Low. It's clear it's long [1:44:52] here. What about the net [1:45:00] Perez? Okay. Well, she's [1:45:00] coming down to have to speak [1:45:01] Urquhart who did not wish to [1:45:05] speak. Debbie Hitchcock [1:45:06] checked into the disrespect [1:45:07] shown by council areas to [1:45:08] Councilmember Day and then [1:45:11] cart Cary Cooper about the [1:45:18] George Gray deep here. [1:45:21] >> My name is known that per [1:45:24] ends. And I just retired as a [1:45:24] school nurse from the Duval [1:45:28] County Public Schools. I am [1:45:31] very concerned with the crisis [1:45:33] occurring in Divide County, [1:45:35] public Schools, school health [1:45:37] service. I believe this issue [1:45:41] is not being addressed. I send [1:45:44] e-mails of my resignation and [1:45:52] reasons why. To the members to [1:45:54] the superintendent, the [1:45:54] school's superintendent [1:45:57] members of the board chair [1:46:03] chair CHAIRMAN And Vice [1:46:03] chairman, I'm innocent. And [1:46:05] all those members of the [1:46:06] school administration, which I [1:46:09] did not receive any response [1:46:13] from anyone. Just to inform [1:46:15] you? Director of nursing had [1:46:18] resigned. I'm nursing [1:46:22] supervisor, has resigned. And [1:46:24] many nurses have resigned [1:46:25] within the last 3 years. You [1:46:30] can check to see. Their names. [1:46:32] Nurses are being replaced with [1:46:33] non-medical people to fill in [1:46:36] for school nurses with no [1:46:39] medical background. For [1:46:42] instance, like a cna or a [1:46:43] medical assistant to have some [1:46:48] medical background. I did want [1:46:54] to say I am very disappointed. [1:46:56] Disappointed with the of [1:46:58] involvement and interaction of [1:47:01] the dcps administration. And [1:47:02] the school board with the [1:47:04] school Health services. I [1:47:06] believe that is one of the [1:47:09] reasons why our school [1:47:11] director, I'm not school [1:47:12] director nursing director, [1:47:15] retired resigned because she [1:47:18] was not included in medical [1:47:18] decisions regarding our [1:47:25] students. I believe this is a [1:47:27] very is very did dangerous [1:47:28] situation and can become a big [1:47:34] lawsuit. This is why I am [1:47:36] resigned. I resigned from my [1:47:38] position. I do not want to [1:47:40] place my nursing license [1:47:41] because of inappropriate [1:47:45] decision making. Ultimately [1:47:46] it's the national will and up [1:47:50] being responsible. We nurses [1:47:52] are held to a different and [1:47:54] higher standard of working. We [1:47:58] took an And I will continue to [1:48:04] follow I worked. Very hard to [1:48:05] achieve my license. Thank you, [1:48:07] Okay. Thank you. [1:48:08] >> And last call for clear [1:48:13] it's long. Is he here? Your [1:48:13] rate down? He's here to spill [1:48:15] speak about 2025. 0, 8, 7, 3, [1:48:16] but did not indicate any [1:48:19] support or opposition. This [1:48:20] PRESIDENT That includes public [1:48:21] comments. It's now time to [1:48:23] move on to public hearing [1:48:24] starting Page 12 Councilmember [1:48:25] should declare any ex parte [1:48:27] communications. Anyone the ice [1:48:28] which is speak should have [1:48:29] completed a blue card. He will [1:48:32] be allowed 3 minutes. I would [1:48:33] ask you filled out a blue card [1:48:35] on any item tonight. Please [1:48:36] start making your way forward [1:48:37] so you can get to the podium [1:48:38] quicker. We'll tell you make [1:48:40] your name. You MAY say you're [1:48:41] out of record, but you're also [1:48:43] encouraged to be specific with [1:48:43] your location as that MAY [1:48:45] impact the weight given to [1:48:47] your comments. Unlike public [1:48:47] comment, speaker MAY be [1:48:48] invited the green Room for [1:48:49] further discussion of the [1:48:50] counselors discretion, MR. [1:48:51] Teal, could you please read [1:48:53] the Bills from Smith? [1:49:03] >> 2025. 2025. 8, 68. 61. 62 [1:49:12] 8, 88 89 90 91. 92 8. 93 94 96 [1:49:16] 97. 8.99, 908. 23. 24. 25 26 [1:49:18] and a 59. [1:49:21] >> These public hearings are [1:49:22] all open. [1:49:22] >> I'm 16, 2020 Pfizer, a [1:49:23] six-year one speaker card, MR. [1:49:25] Johnie does not wish to speak, [1:49:26] supports. [1:49:30] >> Appears close 17, 2025, 0, [1:49:30] 6, 1, 1, speaker card shown [1:49:31] any does not wish to speak. [1:49:34] Supports public areas closed [1:49:35] item 18, 2025? Very 6, 2, I [1:49:39] have Kurtz. Public areas [1:49:40] closed 1920, 25 Zero-day date. [1:49:42] I have one speaker card MR. [1:49:43] John, any does not wish to [1:49:44] speak. Supports public [1:49:47] hearings closed. I'm 2020, 25, [1:49:47] 0, 8, 9, I have 2 speaker [1:49:51] cards. Both not wish to speak. [1:49:53] Have a 10 man and John Neely. [1:49:58] They both have a tomane and [1:49:59] opposes and John, any supports [1:50:04] speaker cards closer. 21 2025, [1:50:05] 0, 8, 9, 0, 1, speaker cards [1:50:06] on any supports. I have no [1:50:09] more speakers. A case closed. [1:50:11] I'm 20 to 2025, 0, 8, 9, 1, [1:50:15] one speaker card. John. Any? [1:50:16] MR. Noonan New year new you [1:50:17] actual name National address [1:50:22] peak to the bill. Please. [1:50:22] >> Hello. [1:50:27] >> I am John Jay New knee. [1:50:29] Jacksonville City Council [1:50:32] resolution 2023, 0, 8, 1, 9. [1:50:34] 83. 56 Bascom row [1:50:34] Jacksonville, Florida, 3, 2, [1:50:38] 2, 1, city council district. 4 [1:50:39] cpac planning District 3 [1:50:42] school board district 3, 2025, [1:50:46] 0, 8, 9, 1, It's an ordinance [1:50:48] Orth rising and to execute and [1:50:50] deliver a 12th Amendment. You [1:50:53] know, equestrian center. And, [1:50:58] you know, you know, it's a [1:50:59] neighborhood's finance, but [1:51:01] it's not easy or the cpac. [1:51:03] And, you know, I just wanted [1:51:05] to, you know, bring this to [1:51:06] your attention because, you [1:51:07] know, I was better. [1:51:08] Jacksonville plan and way back [1:51:11] then, you know, you know, part [1:51:12] of the equestrian center had [1:51:14] to do with raising 5 million [1:51:15] bucks and it was long time [1:51:18] ago. But I just wanted to [1:51:21] mention and just point out, [1:51:23] you know, a 12th Amendment. So [1:51:27] thank you for listening. [1:51:27] >> Thank you, MR. Duty item. [1:51:28] 23, one speaker card [1:51:30] Twenty-twenty Pfizer, 8, 9, 2, [1:51:32] this Nancy Marie Settle. She [1:51:34] opposes. I have no more [1:51:35] speaker cards close the public [1:51:36] hearing on 2025 to 0, 8, 9, [1:51:39] one, the previous. And a close [1:51:41] public hearing on 2025 to 0, [1:51:43] 8, 9, 2, Thank you. I mean, [1:51:45] the emergency motion second on [1:51:46] the emergency vice PRESIDENT, [1:51:49] how you're recognized. Thank [1:51:50] you, MR. PRESIDENT chief [1:51:51] Clements said jso plan to be [1:51:52] here. And since this went [1:51:54] through committees unanimously [1:51:56] 6, 0, 6, 0, [1:51:57] >> I called him and suggested [1:51:57] he stay home and have dinner [1:51:59] with his family. I figure any [1:52:00] time and over jso can spend [1:52:01] more time with her family. [1:52:01] They spent so much time [1:52:03] protecting our streets in our [1:52:04] neighborhoods. They should [1:52:07] spend time with her family. So [1:52:08] I told him I would explain [1:52:09] what's happening here. We're [1:52:09] on the emergency, of course. [1:52:13] But the whole bill fixes [1:52:13] schedule be want to have the [1:52:14] budgets to authorize [1:52:15] continuation grants. And the [1:52:16] reason it's an emergency is [1:52:19] because those grants are [1:52:19] continuation grants. And if [1:52:22] there's any disruption, they [1:52:23] wouldn't get the money they [1:52:25] need. So being on the [1:52:25] emergency, it just ensures [1:52:28] that the continuation remains [1:52:29] on interrupted. And I fully [1:52:30] support the emergency in the [1:52:32] bill. Thank you. [1:52:33] >> All right. Thank you. We [1:52:35] had a motion and second on the [1:52:35] emergency know what's in the [1:52:36] queue. Unfair. The emergency [1:52:39] signify by saying Aye any [1:52:40] opposed say nay to merge [1:52:41] carries the bill as an [1:52:42] emergency motion. Second on [1:52:43] the bill as emergency nose in [1:52:44] the queue. Please open about [1:52:53] record your vote. [1:52:55] >> 19 yeas, 0 nays. Meyer [1:52:55] actually approved 2025. Dash [1:52:59] 0, 8, 9, 2 as emergency. [1:53:02] >> 24 25 26 2025 or 8, 9, 3, [1:53:03] 0, 9, 4, 0, 8, 9, 6, I have no [1:53:03] speaker cards. Public hearings [1:53:07] are all closed. I'm 27, 2025, [1:53:07] 0, 9, 7, 1, speaker card, MR. [1:53:13] John, any? [1:53:16] >> Below? I am John Jay uni, [1:53:17] Jacksonville City Council [1:53:21] resolution 2023, 0, 8, 1, 9, [1:53:22] 83. 56 Bascom road [1:53:24] Jacksonville, Florida, 3, 2, [1:53:24] 2, 1, 6, 7, City Council [1:53:26] district, 4 cpac district, 3 [1:53:30] school board district 3, a [1:53:31] 2025, 0, 8, 9, 7, It's an [1:53:32] ordinance. Appropriating one [1:53:36] point. 4 million from the [1:53:37] Jacksonville Recreation, [1:53:38] Environmental Land acquisition [1:53:40] fund. You know how much money [1:53:42] is left in that one to provide [1:53:43] funding for the city's [1:53:47] acquisition of a parcel of [1:53:52] land. And, you know, I'm in [1:53:54] full support. I looked it up. [1:53:59] It's like 300 grand, you know. [1:54:02] All about, you know, just more [1:54:03] parks, man and especially [1:54:04] those that are on the have the [1:54:06] potential be on a waterway. So [1:54:12] I'm in. I just wanted you [1:54:14] know, just get that out. There [1:54:14] is a shared with a whole bunch [1:54:18] of other people. Especially. [1:54:22] As the city continues to grow. [1:54:23] You know, public access. Not [1:54:29] only. Public access just [1:54:31] general, but especially on our [1:54:35] waterways. So and full [1:54:38] support. Thank you for [1:54:38] listening. [1:54:39] >> No more speaker cards [1:54:43] appears close 2025. 2020 [1:54:44] Pfizer, 8, 9, 9. I have [1:54:47] speaker cards appears close [1:54:48] the emergency motion. Second [1:54:48] on the emergency know was in [1:54:50] the queue all in favor [1:54:51] emergency signify by saying [1:54:52] Aye, aye, any opposed say nay. [1:54:55] The emergency passes bill as [1:54:56] immersive and a motion second [1:54:56] on the bill as an emergency. [1:54:57] No one's in the queue. [1:55:07] >> Please open about a quarter [1:55:09] >> 19 yeas, 0 nays. Actually [1:55:09] have approved 2025. Dash 0, 8, [1:55:12] 9, 9, as an emergency. [1:55:13] >> 2020, 25, 0, 9, 0, 0, 1, [1:55:14] Speaker card, MISTER. John, [1:55:21] any? [1:55:22] >> Hello. [1:55:22] >> I and John j. Noon [1:55:26] Jacksonville. [1:55:28] >> Resolution 2023, 0, 8, 1, [1:55:28] 9, [1:55:32] >> City Council district 4 [1:55:32] cpac planning District 3 [1:55:37] school board district 3. And [1:55:41] 2025, 0, 9, 100. Okay. We got [1:55:42] 2.4 million dollars and we're [1:55:43] going busting this one Pretty [1:55:47] good. You know, there's a [1:55:50] whole bunch in this, but we've [1:55:52] got to exemptions from [1:55:56] competitive, solicitations, [1:55:57] ethics and transparency and [1:55:58] public contracting. You know, [1:56:03] that sounds a. Well anyway. [1:56:04] It's going to be [1:56:05] neighborhoods, rules, finance. [1:56:06] What happened to the cpac [1:56:09] Stroup Commission? You know? [1:56:12] And when it does go through. [1:56:14] You know, just remember 2017, [1:56:16] one, 60 public participation. [1:56:24] The ability. To address here, [1:56:27] legislative representatives. [1:56:27] Before a vote is taken any [1:56:31] bill. All right. Thank you for [1:56:31] listening. [1:56:32] >> MR. Meaning the more [1:56:35] speaker cards closed. We're [1:56:36] not page 17 for public [1:56:37] hearings on land, use [1:56:38] amendments and certain [1:56:40] companion rezoning starting [1:56:41] with Ida 30 2025. Is or a 2, [1:56:42] 3, I have no speaker cards [1:56:46] going close the bill got a [1:56:46] motion saying on the in the [1:56:47] queue, please up in about a [1:56:57] quarter vote. [1:57:00] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [1:57:04] >> By actually approved 2025. [1:57:04] 0, 8, 2, 3, I'm 31 25 to 4 [1:57:06] have no speaker cards. [1:57:10] Republicans opposed the bill. [1:57:11] Got a motion and second on the [1:57:13] bill is moved to vice [1:57:15] PRESIDENT. How thank you, sir. [1:57:16] Before we vote on, just want [1:57:17] to rise to declare its parte [1:57:18] communications on this. I [1:57:19] spoke with Ms Trimmer by phone [1:57:21] on JANUARY 5th and we talked [1:57:22] about the commercial uses of [1:57:22] the pd and we'll make sure its [1:57:23] final. Thank you. [1:57:28] >> All right. Thank you, MR. V [1:57:28] >> no to help them out of [1:57:46] court. Vote. 18 yeas, 0 nays. [1:57:46] >> Thank Approved 2025. [1:57:49] Desiree to 4. I'm 32 25, 0, 2, [1:57:53] 5, no speaker cards close the [1:57:54] bill motion second on the bill [1:57:55] that was in the queue. Please [1:58:10] up in about a quarter vote. [1:58:18] All right. Looks like we have [1:58:23] a little system refresh. Maybe [1:58:25] nanny was to come up and [1:58:26] speak. No, okay. Let's not [1:58:41] permitted as there's no card. [1:58:47] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [1:58:47] >> But I actually improved [1:58:50] 2025. Dash 0, 8, 2, 5, [1:58:52] >> And 33 2025, 0, 2, 6, no [1:58:53] speaker cards public hearings [1:58:55] close the amendment. Motion [1:58:57] second on the amendment all in [1:58:58] favor of the amendment. Is [1:59:00] this amendment vice PRESIDENT? [1:59:00] How [1:59:04] >> Ex parte Thank you, sir. [1:59:05] Before we vote on the [1:59:06] amendment, also on the rise [1:59:07] and declare ex parte [1:59:08] communications on this one. I [1:59:09] spoke with MR. Curtis, her by [1:59:12] phone on NOVEMBER, 21st, about [1:59:12] 2025 0, 8, [1:59:13] >> 2, 6, to discuss the [1:59:14] commercial uses. We'll make [1:59:14] sure it's filed. Thank you, [1:59:18] sir. [1:59:19] >> All right. Thank you very [1:59:23] much. And close. But during. [1:59:24] Did and we move the amendment [1:59:25] and there's a second. So let's [1:59:27] vote on it on favor the [1:59:27] amendment signify by saying [1:59:28] Aye, aye, any opposed say nay [1:59:30] to Medicare's. With the bill [1:59:31] as amended motion. Second on [1:59:32] the bill as amended nose in [1:59:33] the queue. Please up in about [1:59:47] a quarter vote. [1:59:54] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [1:59:55] >> Action you've approved. 25 [1:59:59] 0, 8, 2, 6 has meant 3 for [2:00:00] 2025, 0, 5, 9, 1, Speaker [2:00:07] card. MISS Smith, a series. [2:00:10] >> Samantha Series address on [2:00:12] file. I live 30 miles from [2:00:16] this location as and probably [2:00:16] most people do. If you have [2:00:16] looked at a map or to any [2:00:18] research about this ordinance, [2:00:19] you would see that is [2:00:21] surrounded by forests and [2:00:24] wetlands and vegetation. You [2:00:25] know, if you look on Google [2:00:26] Maps, you can look right now [2:00:29] this is. [2:00:29] >> Atrocious. I guess I would [2:00:30] say is the word I would like [2:00:33] to use. [2:00:34] >> How we are just allowing [2:00:37] all of this. [2:00:38] >> Land to be changed from a [2:00:41] rezoning. And why do we even [2:00:43] have a 2045 comprehensive plan [2:00:44] if we just keep changing it [2:00:45] and amending it? Not really [2:00:48] sure what the reason is for [2:00:48] that. [2:00:51] >> So I just want you all to [2:00:52] in it. [2:00:53] >> Maybe after council meeting [2:00:56] during the week look into this [2:00:57] property. It is not surrounded [2:00:59] by anyone. It is all [2:01:02] vegetation. What is the reason [2:01:02] to do? [2:01:05] >> 337 acres. [2:01:06] >> In that area having it [2:01:12] rezoned 2 from. Rural [2:01:14] residential, too low density [2:01:15] residential. I understand we [2:01:16] want development. This is not [2:01:17] the area to do it. This it [2:01:21] would be. Not only suburban [2:01:24] sprawl, urban sprawl, you [2:01:25] know, you're putting this [2:01:26] development. I don't know if [2:01:27] you are getting more [2:01:28] information than we received [2:01:30] when we look into all these [2:01:30] ordinances. [2:01:31] >> When I come to city council [2:01:34] meetings, I understand it. [2:01:35] Click on the links. I open all [2:01:37] the exhibits like, you know, [2:01:38] I'm not sure if you getting [2:01:41] extra information, but I don't [2:01:42] see the point for the purpose [2:01:43] for this change. And I would [2:01:47] love to know why we just [2:01:49] casually go through all of [2:01:51] these without any discussion. [2:01:52] I know you guys are busy. I [2:01:52] understand it's a long night [2:01:55] and you do one more time to be [2:01:57] wasted. I guess it's waste to [2:01:58] you because you just want to [2:01:59] prove everything. But [2:02:04] >> you know, it's not right. [2:02:05] You know, I worry that you [2:02:05] guys don't care about the [2:02:08] environment of Jacksonville. [2:02:10] You know, we again are on and [2:02:11] off for 90% of Jacksonville [2:02:13] uses the water from the [2:02:15] aquifer. [2:02:16] >> If we continue to destroy [2:02:16] all the land, that water is [2:02:19] going to be polluted and we [2:02:20] are not going to be happy with [2:02:22] the way that things are going. [2:02:22] You know, we have a river [2:02:23] where the city of Rivers are [2:02:27] reversed, dusting, you know, [2:02:27] they're reason we have [2:02:28] education in Florida and [2:02:30] things like that is to help [2:02:34] filter the pollution again. [2:02:36] You know, it's easy for you [2:02:37] all to approve things without [2:02:39] a second guessed or second [2:02:40] thought. But it concerns me [2:02:42] that we're not even paying [2:02:43] attention to what we're [2:02:45] proving because this is [2:02:46] atrocious. And I think you [2:02:48] will need to take step back [2:02:49] and look and actually do some [2:02:50] research into what you're [2:02:51] proving. Thank you. [2:02:56] >> No more speakers. [2:02:57] >> Alright, public hearings [2:02:57] close. An additional public [2:03:00] hearing will be on one 27. 26. [2:03:03] >> We're now page 19 for 3rd [2:03:04] reading ordinances, beginning [2:03:07] with item 35 2023 0 a 7, 6, [2:03:09] pursuant to council ruled 3.1, [2:03:11] 0, 6, This item is pending. [2:03:12] Administrator withdrawn [2:03:13] JANUARY 16th, 2026 and no [2:03:14] action is required. All right. [2:03:18] Thank you. As floor leader. 36 [2:03:19] Twenty-twenty Pfizer, 86 6. [2:03:21] There is a Floor Amendment [2:03:21] council PRESIDENT From [2:03:22] Councilmember Areas. Alright [2:03:26] Council Marius recognized. I [2:03:27] think you MR. PRESIDENT. I [2:03:28] just want to make sure that [2:03:29] everybody in the sense what's [2:03:31] happening with amendment. I [2:03:33] wasn't on committee meeting [2:03:34] for neighbors and rules Knots [2:03:35] week, but essentially is bill [2:03:35] came about because [2:03:37] >> a local restaurant here in [2:03:40] town got cited by the health [2:03:41] department saying, hey, you, [2:03:44] you have animal in your patio [2:03:45] and you're not allowed to have [2:03:46] a pet in the patio, which is [2:03:47] kind of weird because most [2:03:48] restaurants allowing animals [2:03:49] inside the establishments, [2:03:52] especially on the patio. Now, [2:03:52] this animal is not a service [2:03:53] animal. That was just a [2:03:54] regular pet. And so the [2:03:56] gentleman said, ok, fine, [2:03:59] where I get my permit and help [2:04:00] the promise that, well, you [2:04:00] got to reach out to the city [2:04:03] to your permit. He called the [2:04:04] city and the city said, well, [2:04:04] we don't give these permits. [2:04:06] We do have a way to give you a [2:04:07] permit. So he was kind of the [2:04:08] conundrum like what I do that [2:04:11] he's going to get cited again. [2:04:11] So what we had to do was [2:04:15] actually create a permit now [2:04:16] for for all the months [2:04:17] establishments to be able to [2:04:20] say, coming up live with [2:04:21] permit and the fees are [2:04:22] normally like $25. So what I [2:04:25] decided to what I worked out [2:04:25] with the time finalist to say, [2:04:26] okay, we're not charge anybody [2:04:27] a fee for these permits [2:04:28] because this is a permit that [2:04:30] was really just created just [2:04:31] to kind of, you know. Suffice [2:04:34] for the health department. So [2:04:35] that's taking care of. We have [2:04:35] a permanent place now show we [2:04:37] pass this bill but not sweet. [2:04:40] And the committee meeting. I [2:04:41] wasn't here and I know that [2:04:42] Murray, MISTER Had some [2:04:43] concerns about that. The [2:04:46] signage and so if anybody has [2:04:46] a business or any kind [2:04:47] whatever weather is, a [2:04:50] restaurant or whatever you [2:04:51] want to be sure that the [2:04:52] business, especially nowadays [2:04:53] with Instagram and social [2:04:54] media to the aesthetic Snook [2:04:56] spacing, one people walking in [2:04:58] and to have a sign like this. [2:04:59] That's on this picture. The [2:05:00] size of this paper at your [2:05:04] front door. All right. So I [2:05:06] understand This is mainly to [2:05:08] protect people. In case [2:05:09] they're legit to dogs or [2:05:09] they're scared of animals [2:05:13] where the cases because this [2:05:13] bill is literally only for [2:05:15] outdoor patios of his foot [2:05:17] establishments. I made a for [2:05:18] amendment and I would hope you [2:05:21] have supported the says. That [2:05:22] we will no longer have. We [2:05:23] will not put the signs at the [2:05:24] front door of the restaurant. [2:05:25] However, when you walk into [2:05:28] the patio, the restaurant this [2:05:29] time will be at the patio. So [2:05:30] people will still be able to [2:05:31] be notified that there could [2:05:34] be a potential animal at that [2:05:36] patio. So that's all this is a [2:05:39] pretty for amendment. I said [2:05:40] it's just because if you guys [2:05:41] and supported, we will have [2:05:41] one of the front door and also [2:05:42] on the patio door. So it's [2:05:44] kind of like we've done done [2:05:45] so let's just remove the one [2:05:45] from the front door to keep [2:05:47] the aesthetics of the [2:05:49] restaurant. And that's it. So [2:05:50] I mean, that is in here. [2:05:51] Johnson, thank you. All right. [2:05:56] Thank you, Doctor Salem. We [2:05:57] have a motion and a second [2:06:00] doctor. Salem recognized. [2:06:01] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I [2:06:04] just want to clarify a point. [2:06:09] >> The issue that I had with. [2:06:10] With with this bill was that [2:06:11] if I'm on a patio eating with [2:06:15] my grandkids. I want to know [2:06:17] before go out on that patio, [2:06:18] that dogs are potentially [2:06:23] going to be out there. I have [2:06:24] no issue of taking it off the [2:06:25] front door. I think that's a [2:06:26] reasonable thing. But that's [2:06:30] the issue from a and I want to [2:06:32] make sure that this sign is on [2:06:34] every entrance to the patio. [2:06:35] Is that is that? Is that [2:06:44] correct? [2:06:45] >> To Councilmember Salem, I [2:06:46] apologize. Can you ask me the [2:06:48] question again on the state? [2:06:49] It's just sign on every [2:06:52] entrance to the patio. [2:06:53] >> Yeah, through the PRESIDENT [2:06:55] To Councilmember Salem. So [2:06:56] yes, the Arias for amendment [2:06:58] is essentially the same as the [2:06:59] Rules Committee amendment. [2:07:00] With the exception of it, [2:07:01] removes the language that [2:07:03] would have also required the [2:07:04] signs that are depicted there [2:07:05] to be at the entrance to the [2:07:07] establishment. [2:07:08] >> But it still retains the [2:07:09] language that requires that at [2:07:12] each entrance to the patio [2:07:14] that assign be posted and is [2:07:15] not as look at this, the sign [2:07:17] can be horizontal or vertical [2:07:17] e# [2:07:17] # [2:07:17] # [2:07:17] # [2:07:18] and there's a depiction [2:07:20] of each variation in the code [2:07:20] for use of reference for [2:07:23] individuals who would want to [2:07:24] know. Tom Fine with that. Just [2:07:27] to make the council aware as [2:07:28] well on in the code, the [2:07:29] circle in the checkmark around [2:07:30] the dog will be depicted in [2:07:31] green. It's just a black and [2:07:34] white copy on your amendment. [2:07:35] I would urge with that [2:07:36] clarification vote for the [2:07:40] amendment. [2:07:42] >> Right. No other speakers in [2:07:43] the queue all in favor of the [2:07:44] amendment signify by saying [2:07:47] Aye, aye, any opposed say nay. [2:07:48] The carries. I moved the bill [2:07:52] as amended. Got a motion and [2:07:53] second on the bill as amended [2:07:53] known in the Queue. About [2:08:08] record about. [2:08:11] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [2:08:12] >> I actually approved 2025 0, [2:08:15] 8, 6, 6 as amended. [2:08:16] >> They said Twenty-twenty [2:08:17] Pfizer, a 6, 9, council [2:08:18] PRESIDENT As we have multiple [2:08:22] floor amendments on this bill. [2:08:23] >> Already. So before we move [2:08:24] that bill there, anyone in the [2:08:27] queue with floor amendments. [2:08:27] COUNCILWOMAN Clark, Mary [2:08:35] recognized. [2:08:41] >> Thank Present Carrico. As [2:08:43] you can't imagine this [2:08:45] particular bill. I think it [2:08:46] has. It's being presented in [2:08:49] very good faith and I can [2:08:52] understand the impetus for it. [2:08:55] However, I do. Want look at [2:08:58] both sides of it. And I think [2:09:01] some of the issues can tell [2:09:02] you some of the things that [2:09:03] people said to me in regards [2:09:04] to the last installation was [2:09:05] that they didn't know when it [2:09:08] was going to occur. And that [2:09:10] they actually came down [2:09:12] downtown for it. And they were [2:09:13] like, where's it going to [2:09:17] occur? In addition to that, [2:09:18] they when they found out about [2:09:22] it. Was out, there would end [2:09:23] that. They said, that's way [2:09:24] too far. Wasn't always [2:09:26] downtown. And I couldn't [2:09:28] answer that question. In [2:09:30] addition to that, they des [2:09:31] they the these are people who [2:09:36] love the city. They typically [2:09:37] attend in and talking about [2:09:40] seniors as well. So with that [2:09:41] being said, and some of the [2:09:42] other issues is speaking with [2:09:44] the public comments that were [2:09:48] made earlier. [2:09:52] >> The s the the aspect of [2:09:54] public access. So [2:09:59] >> being able to attend the [2:09:59] installation. That's what they [2:10:00] really really want. In [2:10:01] addition to the funding [2:10:03] aspect. But with this [2:10:04] particular flu amendment, what [2:10:07] I'm asking is that. Is the [2:10:10] other part of it. I can [2:10:12] understand the the pride. And [2:10:16] the the late Mont, the joy [2:10:19] that goes along with being. [2:10:22] Selected, voted as PRESIDENT [2:10:23] And vice PRESIDENT Of City [2:10:26] Council. I can understand [2:10:29] that. So with that being said, [2:10:30] I am proposing that we strike [2:10:34] certain aspects from this [2:10:36] particular bill and those [2:10:38] aspects being event related [2:10:39] there, too. And you should [2:10:41] have lots women in front of [2:10:42] you. So the at the idea is [2:10:47] that those events that occur. [2:10:49] I'd be on the installation [2:10:50] process. There's the idea that [2:10:51] it's being paid for by the [2:10:55] public. It is not funded with [2:10:57] public dollars. There's a [2:10:58] portion of it that funded with [2:10:59] public dollars. And that is [2:11:00] typically the installation. [2:11:04] Now there are cases where the [2:11:06] portion where you have food [2:11:06] you have drinks, you know, [2:11:08] that type of thing is held in [2:11:14] the same space. However, food [2:11:15] drinks, decorations and other [2:11:16] aspects are not paid for with [2:11:18] city funds. They're paid by [2:11:21] donors. And so because of that [2:11:24] reason, I'm asking too strike [2:11:24] that particular language from [2:11:28] the bill. Because that aspect [2:11:31] is not being paid for by [2:11:32] public funds. And that's [2:11:34] another concern that [2:11:37] constituents and the city has. [2:11:38] And so that's Muslim. And I [2:11:44] will take questions. [2:11:46] >> All right. We have a motion [2:11:46] and second on the Floor past [2:11:54] present Carlucci. I through [2:11:57] chair. I think understand. But [2:12:00] the floor amendment is. As [2:12:03] long as the event is held in a [2:12:06] public city space. If your [2:12:12] amendment keeps. After the [2:12:13] installation in a city public [2:12:18] own building. If you're only [2:12:19] talking about, I'm not a [2:12:22] question of you talk about the [2:12:24] cost, but I tend of what I'm [2:12:25] doing. Really. I didn't touch [2:12:27] some eye. Wasn't the intent of [2:12:30] the cost. Although I think the [2:12:33] costs on this was a little [2:12:34] more than generally is on pup [2:12:36] on the public buildings. But I [2:12:37] just want the entire thing to [2:12:41] be held. In a public city own. [2:12:45] Facility. In years. Keep it in [2:12:48] a city-owned facility. And [2:12:50] then if you could expand a [2:12:51] little more so I can get a [2:12:53] little more clarity on which [2:12:55] are amendment us. Absolutely. [2:12:58] The PRESIDENT Too. [2:12:59] >> Past PRESIDENT Matt [2:13:02] Carlucci. [2:13:04] >> Yes. So what this does is [2:13:06] focusing actually separating [2:13:08] the installation from the [2:13:08] related events. [2:13:10] >> Once again, if you look at [2:13:11] the bill and the current [2:13:13] ordinance, this is like event, [2:13:13] 60 days before the [2:13:14] installation. And then 60 days [2:13:19] after so the vetted. In my [2:13:22] mind is where you go in It's [2:13:23] basically you celebrate its [2:13:26] not the actual process of [2:13:27] being installed as PRESIDENT [2:13:29] Or vice PRESIDENT. It's it. It [2:13:30] is where you yes, you [2:13:31] celebrate. You have fun with [2:13:32] your family. You have fun with [2:13:34] friends. That type of thing. [2:13:36] So I'm I am distinguishing the [2:13:39] 2 because the that aspect once [2:13:41] again, spoken with [2:13:42] representatives from [2:13:43] legislative services, the [2:13:46] food, the drinks, that type of [2:13:46] thing. It's paved. The donor [2:13:47] dollars not with public does [2:13:52] so. I'm distinguishing the 2. [2:13:52] >> Case. You just talk about [2:13:53] 80 present. Okay. Bye. Yeah. [2:13:56] Yeah. Floor. So any event, 60 [2:13:58] days before afterwards, these [2:13:59] will make sure they're paid [2:14:06] for with private dollars. To [2:14:07] the to the PRESIDENT To [2:14:07] Councilmember Matt Carlucci [2:14:12] guests are okay. I'm fine with [2:14:13] that. And I do have that Plus [2:14:14] in the queue. So I let her [2:14:16] expound a little bit. [2:14:18] >> Thank you. I just wanted to [2:14:20] offer some opportunity for [2:14:21] clarification. If that's ok [2:14:21] with you, Councilmember Clark [2:14:22] Murray. So through the [2:14:24] PRESIDENT To Councilmember [2:14:25] Carlucci. So Councilmember [2:14:27] Clark, Murray's amendment is [2:14:28] removing any language from the [2:14:29] bill that speaks to the [2:14:31] related events. So if the [2:14:32] amendment is approved, that [2:14:33] means the installation [2:14:36] ceremony itself. The taking of [2:14:40] the oath of office that the [2:14:40] address by the PRESIDENT, the [2:14:41] vice PRESIDENT With respect to [2:14:43] goals and objectives for the [2:14:44] ensuing year, we'd all occur [2:14:47] in a city facility open to the [2:14:49] public. That is the official [2:14:49] business that occurs of the [2:14:51] council at that portion of the [2:14:52] event. If there is a party to [2:14:55] be had af 2 words to celebrate [2:14:59] the installation. Based on [2:15:00] this amendment that would no [2:15:01] longer be required to be open [2:15:03] to the public are held in a [2:15:04] city facility. That part is [2:15:06] being removed from the bill to [2:15:10] allow the incoming leadership [2:15:12] record and I believe confirm [2:15:13] Councilmember Clark Murray's [2:15:13] perspective. She explained she [2:15:14] recognizes that they have to [2:15:16] do their own fundraising or [2:15:17] don't receive donors for [2:15:18] those. And she did not want to [2:15:20] require the same obligations [2:15:24] on that. Party event that [2:15:25] would be required on the [2:15:27] installation, which the [2:15:28] installation is also required [2:15:29] to be held in the sunshine as [2:15:29] well. So it's noticed an open [2:15:33] to the public as required [2:15:33] under the Sunshine law, [2:15:35] irrespective of the [2:15:36] legislation. [2:15:36] >> Okay. We'll not my whole [2:15:40] intent to the PRESIDENT Too. [2:15:41] My friend Councilmember Clark, [2:15:53] murder. I get back. Repeat it. [2:15:57] This PRESIDENT. My whole [2:15:57] regard for the whole intent [2:15:59] for the 60 day before in the [2:16:04] 60's afters. The event was if [2:16:05] whoever was PRESIDENT Wanted [2:16:09] to have a party or some type [2:16:12] of ceremony. Whatever. Before [2:16:16] the installation. And wanted [2:16:16] to have it. I wanted to be in [2:16:19] public. Its city-owned [2:16:20] facility, not in some kind of [2:16:26] a private. Private facility. [2:16:26] In other words, anything has [2:16:28] to do with the installation. [2:16:31] The celebration, a party, even [2:16:33] it the installation was a part [2:16:35] of it. I wanted to be held in [2:16:38] a public facility or the [2:16:41] public was welcomed to attend. [2:16:41] So that's why I want to leave [2:16:47] it in there. If it means [2:16:47] paying for with private money [2:16:56] from fine with me. So the [2:16:57] amendment has been moved and [2:16:58] second and we have a q. So you [2:17:00] had explanation from the [2:17:00] attorney now we're going to go [2:17:01] to the members on the to [2:17:03] Councilmember You're [2:17:03] recognized. [2:17:07] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. [2:17:07] My question to focus. I think [2:17:08] you MAY have answered, but [2:17:09] just so I'm clear again, [2:17:09] that's only went to one [2:17:13] committee. So the bill as it [2:17:13] stands, where you put your [2:17:15] hand on the Bible, take the [2:17:16] oath. Everyone's watching you [2:17:18] give your speech is talk about [2:17:19] your priorities, that and any [2:17:21] related reception would have [2:17:21] to be in a public facility as [2:17:24] the bill stands now, this [2:17:25] amendment means okay. We have [2:17:28] the official in the Sunshine [2:17:29] installation ceremony. But if [2:17:30] there is a privately funded [2:17:32] reception that can take place [2:17:33] outside of a public facility, [2:17:34] correct. [2:17:37] >> MR. PRESIDENT Mike gets cut [2:17:38] PRESIDENT Councilmember Lan [2:17:38] and that is correct. Thank [2:17:42] you. All right. So only [2:17:42] amendment Councilmember [2:17:47] Diamond, you're recognized. [2:17:48] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT Mary, [2:17:49] just to help me understand [2:17:54] this. If we have a swearing in [2:17:55] irate a unos. Nick is probably [2:17:55] America's present. Raises [2:17:56] hand. He does it right here. [2:17:57] Let's just assume anyone. 7 [2:18:00] party cross the street. [2:18:02] There's no way under the First [2:18:03] Amendment. The United States [2:18:04] Constitution, our freedom to [2:18:05] assemble that someone can tell [2:18:07] me he can't go do that. In [2:18:11] what universe is that allowed? [2:18:13] Theresa PRESIDENT To [2:18:14] Councilmember Diamond in the [2:18:15] universe where you include a [2:18:17] provision in your code that [2:18:17] requires it. It can't. But [2:18:21] through the chair, you can not [2:18:22] who I love Jacksonville. I [2:18:24] love the city council that we [2:18:26] cannot Trump our freedom to [2:18:27] assemble as protecting the [2:18:27] First Amendment. That correct? [2:18:29] Through the council? PRESIDENT [2:18:30] Councilmember Diamond, you're [2:18:31] not restricting the ability to [2:18:34] assemble. You're addressing [2:18:34] the location of where it can [2:18:36] be and who would be allowed to [2:18:40] attend with respect to this [2:18:41] legislation through the chair [2:18:44] to marry. I think that's I [2:18:45] disagree with that analysis. I [2:18:47] look, I think this whole this [2:18:48] whole bill is just as sour [2:18:50] grapes like useless piece of [2:18:51] argument. But put that aside [2:18:52] on that. But no, because I [2:18:53] think is just silliness and [2:18:54] only spent hours and hours and [2:18:55] hours doing stuff like this. [2:18:55] We've got people who are [2:18:57] disabled can't get to work [2:18:58] that literally we're doing [2:18:59] this. We're gonna spend more [2:19:00] time on this that we are. [2:19:01] People can't get to work or [2:19:05] school who are disabled. That [2:19:06] just drives me crazy. This is [2:19:07] just outrage. Legislation, [2:19:10] tired of it. But I don't think [2:19:12] it's legal. United States [2:19:13] Constitution to tell whoever [2:19:14] next council PRESIDENT Is [2:19:16] where they can have their [2:19:16] party. It's privately funded. [2:19:18] I just don't think you can [2:19:20] okay to all but for this [2:19:21] amendment. Great thing. I [2:19:22] totally with you. But these [2:19:23] ridiculous. Also I will [2:19:25] support legislation defund is [2:19:25] all these things of taxpayer [2:19:26] dollars, which I think good [2:19:29] thing. All right. Next, we had [2:19:34] a vice PRESIDENT, Howland. [2:19:35] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT case [2:19:35] anyone wants to hear what I [2:19:37] have think about this would [2:19:40] have to say about it. I [2:19:41] support your amendment. [2:19:42] COUNCILWOMAN Clark, Mary, I [2:19:43] think it's a logical but I [2:19:45] probably will not support the [2:19:47] bill because well as well [2:19:48] intentional. I find it [2:19:49] restrictive, particularly on [2:19:50] the district COUNCILMAN Who [2:19:52] MAY choose to have a swearing [2:19:53] in one day if they're chosen [2:19:57] as PRESIDENT In their district [2:19:58] maybe they can't think if [2:20:00] there's a beaches persons MAY [2:20:00] Council PRESIDENT. I think [2:20:01] there's only one or 2 [2:20:02] locations that are actually [2:20:02] owned by the city under this [2:20:04] code. And that would be at the [2:20:04] Neptune Beach Library or [2:20:06] something like that. And maybe [2:20:07] they want to do there. Maybe [2:20:09] they wouldn't. But I think [2:20:11] it's overly restrictive, [2:20:12] particularly when you can [2:20:13] achieve the same thing just by [2:20:16] asking the question of the [2:20:17] candidate for running for [2:20:18] PRESIDENT City Council a [2:20:21] night. I don't you know if [2:20:21] I'll ever be elected. So but [2:20:23] if so, why probably do my [2:20:26] insulation right here? So [2:20:27] that's kind of how I look at [2:20:29] it. Why restricted on people [2:20:30] when you can just ask them [2:20:31] what they would do? Thanks. [2:20:32] Alright. Councilmember [2:20:38] Johnson. Thank you, MR. [2:20:39] PRESIDENT want to start with a [2:20:40] question or 2 as the 5 pulas I [2:20:41] vote for you, by the way, [2:20:42] through the chair mystified. [2:20:43] Plus what a great answer. [2:20:46] >> And this universe, my [2:20:48] question for you, though, is [2:20:50] if a candidate for council [2:20:51] PRESIDENT Wanted to have their [2:20:56] installation. And let's it's [2:20:57] not technically a city venue, [2:20:59] but like an outdoor venue like [2:21:04] a lawn. Would this restrict [2:21:05] that from happening? Could you [2:21:09] answer that for me? Please. [2:21:10] >> through the PRESIDENT To [2:21:11] Councilmember Johnson so long [2:21:16] as well. This does this as [2:21:19] facility exactly. Arguably a [2:21:21] lawn long as it's accessible [2:21:23] to the public ada compliant [2:21:25] allows for media presence and [2:21:25] live streaming. I'm not sure [2:21:27] that this bill would really [2:21:28] address that scenario with the [2:21:30] language that's been proposed. [2:21:32] I would not read it. I would [2:21:33] not want to read it. So [2:21:34] strictly to suggest that it [2:21:37] would have to be a city or [2:21:39] constitutional officer or [2:21:41] independent agency lawn, so to [2:21:42] speak. But you MAY also [2:21:44] addressed that question to the [2:21:45] introduce or of the bill to [2:21:45] make sure that that would be [2:21:48] in keeping with his intent as [2:21:49] well. [2:21:51] >> I will through PRESIDENT To [2:21:52] COUNCILMAN Carlucci because I [2:21:53] honestly I will tell you, in [2:21:55] looking at this legislation, I [2:21:57] kind of agree with the vice [2:21:58] PRESIDENT. I do think I just [2:22:02] don't see the necessity of it. [2:22:03] >> Or the need for it. But the [2:22:05] way this bill as written and I [2:22:05] am a student of the law [2:22:07] learning and the way the midst [2:22:08] plus explains it. And the way [2:22:11] I read it based on this, we [2:22:12] would not be able to have an [2:22:17] installation on a green area [2:22:18] is that a problem for the way [2:22:18] you put it together? [2:22:19] Councilmember coach Matt [2:22:22] Carlucci. [2:22:22] >> Well, I never thought about [2:22:24] having and insulation. 95 [2:22:29] degree weather the summer on a [2:22:31] green lawn. But just let me [2:22:31] being a little facetious [2:22:33] there. I hope you can laugh a [2:22:37] little bit at that. And I [2:22:38] would object to it being on [2:22:43] the green lawn of a city own [2:22:44] property. It looked that this [2:22:44] is what I'm trying to [2:22:46] accomplish here. If it's on [2:22:48] the green lawn in front of [2:22:50] forming arts center. If so, [2:22:52] the green lawn to the [2:22:54] riverfront parks. I just [2:23:00] think. That this office, these [2:23:05] offices belongs not to. The [2:23:06] person fixing to take the [2:23:08] office. It belongs to the [2:23:10] people and it should be held [2:23:13] and public. Or a public [2:23:15] facility. If you want to amend [2:23:17] it to include crane space as [2:23:19] long as it can be. Ada [2:23:24] compliant. And it can meet the [2:23:25] streaming in all the other [2:23:25] things that are required of [2:23:30] building. That's fine. Okay. [2:23:31] Thought I thank you, [2:23:32] councilmember if appreciate [2:23:32] the clarification, I just want [2:23:34] to say PRESIDENT. [2:23:35] >> As it stands now, I think [2:23:39] it's pretty unfair for to 20 [2:23:39] more seconds. The bill sponsor [2:23:43] happy really tight out take. [2:23:44] Just don't think it's fair to [2:23:45] be hamstrung as to where it [2:23:46] could be. I believe that as [2:23:49] long as it's accessible. Every [2:23:50] time I've been coming to these [2:23:52] installations since I was a [2:23:53] young child and they've always [2:23:55] been in places, not always [2:23:57] owned by the city, but they've [2:23:58] always been in places. And as [2:23:59] we know with the sunshine, [2:24:00] they must be accessible side. [2:24:01] Don't see the need for this [2:24:03] legislation. I hope that we [2:24:04] can amend it because if we [2:24:06] choose to have an outsider [2:24:07] somewhere else, council [2:24:09] members who are elected into [2:24:11] leadership as Councilmember [2:24:12] Clark Murray said as part of [2:24:13] the celebration should not be [2:24:15] hamstrung. Thank you, MR. [2:24:16] PRESIDENT and Johnson. And [2:24:17] we're still going the cutest [2:24:18] reminder on the amendment. [2:24:19] Still, Ron, clerk, Mary [2:24:25] Amendment next is Dr Sale. [2:24:26] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT I [2:24:28] was in rules and participate [2:24:30] in this debate. And I voted [2:24:34] for this bill. And I have [2:24:35] since come to the conclusion [2:24:37] that was a mistake. [2:24:42] >> I made the argument. In [2:24:43] rules that day that I was part [2:24:44] of an installation where I had [2:24:47] to have it at the performing [2:24:51] Arts center because of the all [2:24:53] the new council members in the [2:24:53] constitutional officers. They [2:24:55] had to participate. I had no [2:24:57] choice and I had to raise [2:24:57] money for that party for all [2:25:02] those people. I mention then [2:25:03] and I still believe it today [2:25:04] that I would have loved to [2:25:06] have had that have been in the [2:25:06] remote club. The club that I [2:25:09] grew up in as a child. What an [2:25:10] event that would have the [2:25:13] added. We have sense my [2:25:15] installation spent several [2:25:16] $100,000 to renovate it. And I [2:25:17] think it would be very [2:25:21] appropriate. Particularly now [2:25:22] that have that And I heard [2:25:23] from some of my relatives in [2:25:25] cousin's son said. Why not [2:25:28] have it here? It's in [2:25:29] COUNCILMAN Care Coast [2:25:30] District. Interestingly, and I [2:25:32] think it's a wonderful venue [2:25:34] now, I don't think. That's [2:25:38] going to happen all the time. [2:25:39] I think it'll be a rare [2:25:43] occasion. I there MAY be a [2:25:45] unique circumstance could be [2:25:46] an ethnic reason or could be a [2:25:46] council district reason where [2:25:49] they want to have that [2:25:51] installation outside of the [2:25:53] core area and a particular [2:25:54] venue. And I think we should [2:25:56] support that. I don't think [2:25:58] it'll happen. I think former [2:26:00] PRESIDENT White mentioned it [2:26:02] probably won't happen very [2:26:04] often. But I want to reserve [2:26:05] the right for someone to do [2:26:08] that. So I will be voting [2:26:10] against the bill, but I will [2:26:11] support the Clark Murray [2:26:13] Amendment because it makes [2:26:14] least a little bit better. [2:26:16] Then the bill itself, which I [2:26:19] think is way too. I've come to [2:26:20] the conclusion. It's way too [2:26:23] restrictive. Thank you, MR. [2:26:24] PRESIDENT. [2:26:25] >> All right. Thank PRESIDENT [2:26:26] Salem. And then for the second [2:26:26] time we have passed PRESIDENT [2:26:33] Privilege. Well, in that case. [2:26:38] I don't often not support my [2:26:39] friend council member Clark [2:26:40] Murray's. But I'm not going [2:26:43] support it. And the reason [2:26:44] local supported is the bill [2:26:47] speaks for itself. These [2:26:48] offices belong to the people. [2:26:53] And they should be. And city [2:26:56] spaces. And city facilities [2:27:00] that are owned by the public. [2:27:01] And I think they should be [2:27:02] held to centrally located as [2:27:04] possible. So people know where [2:27:05] they're at and they're [2:27:10] comfortable there. I heard my [2:27:11] friend Council America talk [2:27:12] about the PRESIDENT, the [2:27:15] governor. Their dog year aged. [2:27:18] In public state. Federal [2:27:20] buildings. We should do the [2:27:23] same thing here. I'm a [2:27:28] traditionalist. Perhaps there [2:27:31] has been swearing in [2:27:32] insulation at a private [2:27:34] facility other than the last [2:27:35] one. And I'm not picking on [2:27:36] the last one. People think I [2:27:41] am, but I'm not. I just happen [2:27:41] to care about our consolidated [2:27:43] government and what it means. [2:27:47] And it was it was meant to [2:27:50] mean something to the people. [2:27:53] And when you hold it outside. [2:27:55] A public facility like we have [2:27:55] traditionally for 50 some odd [2:28:00] years. I want to just kind of [2:28:00] goes against what I think the [2:28:03] intent in the spirit. Of what [2:28:07] we're supposed to be about. I [2:28:08] had my way and I say we all [2:28:10] just haven't done here. And [2:28:14] then if we want to go to the [2:28:14] library, so elect we do with [2:28:15] counsel present whites. That [2:28:20] was ideal. Holding out [2:28:21] somewhere where people don't [2:28:23] really know how to get there. [2:28:24] And somebody people to come to [2:28:28] these events. They're people [2:28:29] that are used to coming for [2:28:32] years. And now they got to go [2:28:33] somewhere where they don't [2:28:38] know what's going to be. [2:28:40] Conscious. But I know where my [2:28:40] conscious takes me. And I [2:28:41] think this is a good [2:28:42] government playing government [2:28:46] Bill. But thank you. Actions [2:28:47] Scarlet jacket was in queue [2:28:47] all in favor of the clerk. [2:28:48] Mary Amendment. Raise your [2:28:57] hand. [2:29:01] >> Passes. [2:29:02] >> Next, we have another [2:29:05] floor. Members aren't. You're [2:29:05] not in Cuba? I think it's [2:29:06] yours. COUNCILWOMAN Clark [2:29:07] Mayor, you're recognized. [2:29:10] >> You are correct. Thank you. [2:29:15] So you are receiving aid. And [2:29:16] additional floor amendment. So [2:29:17] in the bill, there is a waiver [2:29:21] section. Let me explain the [2:29:24] waiver section. So the waiver [2:29:25] section that's currently in [2:29:25] the bill, not a floor [2:29:26] amendment currently in the [2:29:29] bill says that. If you want to [2:29:33] hold the installation. At a [2:29:37] private. Location, then you [2:29:38] can apply. You need to apply [2:29:42] for a waiver. And you can do [2:29:43] so. Then their parameters upon [2:29:46] that waiver. So the floor [2:29:47] amendment that you have before [2:29:49] you basically says it. Okay, [2:29:52] you want to have the event is [2:29:55] delay shun at a private place. [2:29:58] Then. Seeing that the [2:30:00] installation is a public [2:30:03] event. You must notify the [2:30:08] public in 2 ways week before [2:30:12] U.S. Notice it in a written [2:30:13] medium meeting, a newspaper, [2:30:16] example, a daily record. And [2:30:19] you must notify at least 2 [2:30:22] visual mediums, meaning [2:30:23] television, the time location [2:30:25] of the event. And so that is [2:30:30] my. Floor amendment to the. [2:30:33] Bill presented by council [2:30:35] member Matt Carlucci in [2:30:36] regards to this. And I will [2:30:37] take any questions at this [2:30:40] time. All right. Thank you. [2:30:41] Councilmember Diamond on the [2:30:42] amendment. [2:30:46] >> We do have a second through [2:30:48] the chair, Mary. So since we [2:30:50] just amended this thing to [2:30:50] essentially just say, all [2:30:51] we're talking about is like [2:30:52] raising the hand and swearing [2:30:53] in. [2:30:55] >> That's all the bill counts [2:30:57] for now. And if this gets in [2:30:59] there, it's not for the [2:31:01] party's. It's just for the [2:31:01] raising the hand. Is that fair [2:31:05] reading now? What this floor [2:31:06] amendment would do to the [2:31:08] waiver section through the [2:31:08] PRESIDENT To Councilmember [2:31:10] Diamond. Yes, since the First [2:31:11] Amendment passed really this [2:31:11] language, what would be left [2:31:13] in the bill? [2:31:14] >> That the waiver would apply [2:31:15] to would be to the [2:31:15] installation itself. Only [2:31:17] thanks. All right. Thank you. [2:31:23] Councilmember thank you, MR. [2:31:24] PRESIDENT said my [2:31:25] understanding that the waiver [2:31:26] can only be done if if the [2:31:27] public. [2:31:27] >> Space isn't available, [2:31:31] correct. So this is still. [2:31:32] This is still lighting without [2:31:35] to the to the. Amendment [2:31:35] Amendment. You have missed [2:31:39] partner. Through the PRESIDENT [2:31:42] To Councilmember Blue. So. [2:31:43] >> So what this does that [2:31:44] there's a section in the [2:31:46] current legislation that's is [2:31:48] that okay? Let's say, for [2:31:49] example, you want to hold the [2:31:49] lead the installation [2:31:51] somewhere other than a public [2:31:52] building, then you can. But [2:31:55] you must apply for a waiver. [2:31:57] And so what this summit, what [2:31:59] this floor amendment does I'm [2:31:59] simply saying that, ok, you [2:32:01] can do that if you if you [2:32:05] decide but you must once [2:32:06] again, the issue is that the [2:32:08] public needs to know it's done [2:32:13] because of The Sunshine laws [2:32:14] and one way, but that way is [2:32:16] not notice to the entire [2:32:17] public. Most people don't have [2:32:18] access to that particular way. [2:32:21] So this way, the public does [2:32:22] know about because the [2:32:24] insulation itself is a public [2:32:26] event. So you must once again [2:32:28] notify at least one print [2:32:32] medium and to visual mediums. [2:32:33] >> The however the waiver [2:32:34] still needs to have two-thirds [2:32:35] vote and something to be [2:32:38] accompanied with justification [2:32:38] as to why pull up. So it is [2:32:42] not available right yes, that [2:32:44] is a question for the [2:32:45] introduce make sure. All [2:32:46] right. I'm fine with it that [2:32:46] way, if that's what it is. But [2:32:49] of the bill. But it would only [2:32:50] be if you cannot use a public [2:32:52] facility going to speak to [2:32:54] bill later on. But I this is [2:32:56] all so much for something that [2:32:56] was a really good bill. And I [2:32:57] don't know why we're getting [2:33:00] it this way. All right. On the [2:33:05] And then Ducks, Salem. [2:33:08] >> The PRESIDENT To Plus, did [2:33:09] I hear a two-thirds vote on [2:33:14] the waiver? To approve it. [2:33:16] >> Through the PRESIDENT To [2:33:16] Councilmember sailing, yes, [2:33:18] the bill as written would [2:33:18] require, would require a [2:33:19] two-thirds vote of the full [2:33:22] council. So 13 members we did [2:33:22] approve. [2:33:25] >> You have to follow that [2:33:25] legislation appropriately way [2:33:29] ahead of time in order to get. [2:33:32] Maybe you're only elected in [2:33:34] MAY I the installations the [2:33:35] end of JUNE. It It would seem [2:33:36] almost unless you did it as an [2:33:37] hour, something through the [2:33:38] PRESIDENT To counselors that's [2:33:39] essentially what would have to [2:33:41] occur is you have to do it as [2:33:42] essentially isn't in and out, [2:33:43] which in and of itself would [2:33:44] require a two-thirds vote to [2:33:47] approve. And that was part of [2:33:47] what was contemplated by [2:33:48] Councilmember Clark Murray's [2:33:51] amendment with the one week [2:33:53] turn around for the [2:33:54] advertisement contemplating [2:33:54] that there's a very short time [2:33:56] frame to work with in there. [2:33:57] >> I'm going vote for this, [2:33:57] but I'm going vote against the [2:34:00] whole bill. Because this makes [2:34:04] the Carlucci bill that in my [2:34:06] mind. But the whole thing I've [2:34:08] come to that conclusion is [2:34:09] bad. So I'm gonna vote for [2:34:10] this. But vote against entire [2:34:11] Bill. Thank you. [2:34:12] >> All right. Thank you. [2:34:16] Councilmember areas. Thank [2:34:18] you, MR. PRESIDENT is Plus the [2:34:19] first floor amendment limits [2:34:22] crockery gave us To keep the [2:34:22] installation in a public [2:34:27] space. [2:34:28] >> Through the PRESIDENT, [2:34:28] Councilmember Arias. So yes, [2:34:30] what it did was it struck all [2:34:31] references to the related [2:34:34] events, such that if the bill [2:34:35] is approved, it would require [2:34:36] that the installation itself [2:34:40] ranked occur within a public [2:34:40] facility that's owned by the [2:34:43] city owned operated by the [2:34:44] city. Its independent [2:34:45] authorities are constitutional [2:34:46] officers then also there's [2:34:47] other risk requirements such [2:34:49] ada, Accessibility at Center [2:34:51] right. The second part of that [2:34:51] first floor amendment is that [2:34:54] the second part, the party [2:34:58] would be any where? The [2:34:59] PRESIDENT At the time would [2:35:01] like to have it. Okay. Now [2:35:06] this second 4 minutes states [2:35:07] That we need to be able to to [2:35:08] reported to the news media [2:35:11] isn't all that. If we're going [2:35:12] use it at a private event at a [2:35:13] private center for the [2:35:14] installation of almost any [2:35:16] rights for the installation [2:35:17] part. [2:35:18] >> Through the PRESIDENT [2:35:19] Councilmember are yes, yes. If [2:35:20] the bill only now pertains to [2:35:20] the installation based on the [2:35:22] approval of the First [2:35:24] Amendment, what the waiver [2:35:25] would apply to was a request [2:35:27] by presumably and incoming [2:35:30] PRESIDENT To host installation [2:35:32] at a non city for security. I [2:35:35] ask that because we we just [2:35:35] approved the First Amendment [2:35:36] and says the installation has [2:35:37] to be at a public. Facility [2:35:39] yet. Now we're seeing that the [2:35:40] second amendment is saying [2:35:43] that. If it's not at a public [2:35:47] facility but us redundant in a [2:35:48] way because we already we [2:35:50] already said that he has to be [2:35:51] at a public facility, though, [2:35:53] through the PRESIDENT's [2:35:54] councilmember Arias. Floor [2:35:56] amendment is addressing. There [2:35:57] was a waiver provided for in [2:35:59] the original bill was filed. [2:36:00] So the original bill is filed, [2:36:02] said that the installation and [2:36:03] any related events would have [2:36:05] to occur in a city owned or [2:36:05] operated facility. But you [2:36:07] could wave that by a [2:36:10] two-thirds vote of the full [2:36:11] council with a justification [2:36:13] as to why a city-owned [2:36:16] facility is not sufficient or [2:36:17] available. So if she's [2:36:18] indicating through her Second [2:36:19] Amendment is yes, we still [2:36:20] have to hold the installation [2:36:23] in city-owned facility. But if [2:36:26] there is a request to waive [2:36:27] that requirement, then if [2:36:28] that's granted that it would [2:36:30] need to be advertised [2:36:30] additional places besides just [2:36:31] the sunshine notice that would [2:36:32] be released. Okay. All right. [2:36:33] Thank you for the [2:36:37] clarification. [2:36:38] >> All right. Thank you, [2:36:38] wrapping up the discussion on [2:36:41] the amendment. No, okay. All [2:36:42] right. All in favor of the [2:36:43] amendment signify by saying [2:36:44] Aye, aye. Any opposed say nay. [2:36:46] And then carries. Now we are [2:36:49] on the bill there. Moved. The [2:36:51] bill is twice amended. Got a [2:36:54] motion. Second on the bill has [2:36:55] twice amended going once going [2:36:56] twice open about a quarter [2:37:00] vote. No, no, no, no, no. [2:37:03] Councilmember Police. Thank [2:37:06] you, MR. PRESIDENT. I didn't [2:37:08] speak on this bill during [2:37:09] committee. I really spoken on [2:37:10] this bill much at all, but I [2:37:12] would speak on it now. It also [2:37:13] would like to be listed as a [2:37:14] co-sponsor of this bill. And I [2:37:17] was on a one not on here and [2:37:19] this. I have to applaud [2:37:20] COUNCILMAN Carlucci. Following [2:37:23] this bill. I'm really [2:37:24] disappointed with some of [2:37:24] stuff that I've heard [2:37:29] regarding it. To Kurt. [2:37:33] Leadership is a privilege. And [2:37:34] being the PRESIDENT, this [2:37:35] council or the vice PRESIDENT [2:37:38] Is a privilege. And to think [2:37:40] that anyone would want to [2:37:43] leave one of these beautiful [2:37:43] public buildings and not have [2:37:46] the ceremony done here. Is [2:37:48] ridiculous to me. Want to a [2:37:50] private reception couple days [2:37:51] later. Buying the media [2:37:51] reception should also probably [2:37:53] be in a public building, [2:37:54] frankly. So I don't I don't [2:37:55] love the amendment that would [2:37:55] just pass, but it is what it [2:38:00] is. I just don't understand in [2:38:01] Congress. If you get sworn in [2:38:03] as a new senator or a new [2:38:04] Congress member to do it on [2:38:07] the floor. In the state [2:38:08] legislature. If you're a House [2:38:09] member or a senator, you do it [2:38:11] on the floor. Why the h# [2:38:11] # [2:38:11] # [2:38:13] would we not do it here? It [2:38:16] doesn't make sense to me. [2:38:16] Language Bozo. Called Mr, [2:38:19] PRESIDENT, but it's just this [2:38:20] isn't rocket science. And this [2:38:21] isn't a bad bill. This is kind [2:38:25] of common sense. And to the [2:38:25] point of what one of our [2:38:27] former council PRESIDENT Said, [2:38:28] I thought it was a beautiful [2:38:29] ceremony that was of the [2:38:29] performing Arts center right [2:38:30] on our river in a public [2:38:33] building. This is the people's [2:38:36] chamber. Of the city of [2:38:37] Jacksonville were a big deal. [2:38:40] This is a big city. And we [2:38:41] should be proud of that. And [2:38:42] if you're in leadership, you [2:38:43] should get sworn in right up [2:38:50] there. I love the fancy [2:38:51] parties that I've seen a prior [2:38:53] events and love seeing women [2:38:56] with Champaign dresses. That's [2:38:56] not what being in public [2:39:00] service is about. It's about [2:39:03] getting sworn in and doing a [2:39:05] job for a year as the chair of [2:39:08] a large governing body. It's [2:39:08] not meant to be some big, [2:39:14] awesome party. And it's not. [2:39:15] So much to ask that it be done [2:39:18] in our city hall one of the [2:39:19] many public buildings that are [2:39:22] within a stone's throw. Yeah, [2:39:24] we've got people who are [2:39:25] disabled. They can't use jta [2:39:26] services. But guess what, to [2:39:29] have one of these events and [2:39:30] events space where they might [2:39:31] not have ada. Compliance is [2:39:34] crazy to me. I just don't get [2:39:38] it. This is a good bill. And [2:39:39] what COUNCILMAN Carlucci want [2:39:41] to do was right. And I think [2:39:44] that anyone who goes into [2:39:45] leadership should be excited [2:39:46] to stand here with their [2:39:49] family. And get sworn in to [2:39:50] lead a great governing body. [2:39:51] But to think that we need to [2:39:53] raise all this money and spend [2:39:55] tons of cash on and event. All [2:39:57] we're doing is helping out our [2:39:58] lobbyist and consultant [2:39:59] friends. And that's not [2:40:01] appropriate either. Grow up. [2:40:07] This isn't about ego. Is about [2:40:08] representing this city as the [2:40:09] Predator times like this was a [2:40:12] thank you, councilmember them. [2:40:12] Questions been called on [2:40:13] become the question. Raise [2:40:27] your hand. [2:40:28] Questions been [2:40:43] called about a quarter. Both. [2:40:50] >> 7 yeas, 11 nays. [2:40:54] >> your vote 2025 to 0, 8, 6, [2:40:54] 9, fails. [2:40:55] >> One 38. 2025 series. So [2:40:58] year I move the amendment. [2:40:59] >> All right. We're on number [2:41:02] 38. When 25 to 0, 8, 7, one [2:41:03] person purpose. Point of [2:41:04] personal privilege. I don't [2:41:08] think so. No called point of [2:41:10] order. We can check with ogc [2:41:11] this if it stands. What is [2:41:11] your point of order if you [2:41:14] haven't? I really don't have a [2:41:15] point or I just wanted to ask [2:41:16] a person point of personal [2:41:19] privilege to share something. [2:41:22] >> I don't know if that's a [2:41:23] something that can be did not [2:41:24] are not going to through the [2:41:24] will. We are denying so you [2:41:31] can d c. You can always speak [2:41:36] at the end with announcements. [2:41:37] >> Through the 2 through the [2:41:37] PRESIDENT's councilmember [2:41:39] college, you think the [2:41:39] determination of whether to [2:41:40] allow to speak on item that's [2:41:41] already been voted upon as a [2:41:42] determination of the presiding [2:41:45] officer. He's he's chosen to [2:41:46] deny your request to have the [2:41:50] floor extended. I thank us for [2:41:51] later. [2:41:52] >> Thank you. I believe I [2:41:55] moved the foreman or I'm sorry [2:41:57] the amendment on. I'm 38 2025. [2:41:57] Zichri motion. Second on the [2:41:58] amendment was in the queue all [2:41:59] in favor. The amendment [2:42:00] signify by saying Aye. Aye new [2:42:00] posting with the bill as [2:42:04] amended. Motion second on the [2:42:05] bill as amended, please up in [2:42:19] about a quarter vote. [2:42:34] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays by actually [2:42:37] approved 2025. 0, 8, 7, 0, [2:42:38] >> Thank you. Colleagues on [2:42:38] the 39 2025. 37 1 move the [2:42:40] amendment. [2:42:43] >> Motion second on the [2:42:43] amendment. No one's in the [2:42:44] queue. Unfair to the amendment [2:42:45] signify by saying Aye. I post [2:42:47] an ad. Medicare's. [2:42:51] >> I move to refer as amended. [2:42:52] Got a motion and second on the [2:42:53] re refer as amended notice in [2:42:54] the queue. Please up in about [2:43:09] a quarter vote. [2:43:22] >> 18 yeas, 0 nays. [2:43:23] >> But I actually have [2:43:24] approved 2025 to 0, 8, 7, 1, [2:43:29] I'm sorry. 25 to 0. 7 Yes. Re [2:43:30] referred you. Re refer 2025. [2:43:33] As you're with someone. [2:43:34] >> And for 2025 very some 6. I [2:43:36] moved the rules. Substitute. [2:43:38] Motion. Second on the rules, [2:43:39] substitute known in the cube [2:43:51] is up about a quarter vote. [2:43:52] >> are all in favor of the [2:43:54] substitutes event by saying [2:43:55] Aye aye substitutes pass. [2:43:57] COUNCILMAN Johnson, you're [2:43:57] recognized. I made the bill a [2:44:01] substituted. Thank you, MR. [2:44:02] PRESIDENT, I just wanted to [2:44:04] rise quickly to say this bill [2:44:05] was this particular [2:44:09] legislation was dead. This [2:44:10] group Reconstruction has [2:44:12] worked diligently to make this [2:44:14] happen. I spent a good part of [2:44:16] my childhood in this building. [2:44:16] The armory was formally [2:44:18] department of Parks and [2:44:19] Recreation. You're for the [2:44:20] city of Jacksonville and at [2:44:23] the time back in the 1980's [2:44:24] maritime hosiery [2:44:24] headquartered. The mayor's [2:44:26] team volunteer program in this [2:44:28] building. Also in a subsequent [2:44:31] meeting, learned back in the [2:44:32] 1940's that per soprano Marian [2:44:33] Anderson saying in this [2:44:34] building. So there's so much [2:44:36] history there and I'm happy [2:44:37] that reconstruction is here. [2:44:37] And then I was able to do the [2:44:41] work to help them to bring [2:44:42] this across the finish line. [2:44:42] I'm looking forward to seeing [2:44:43] this crown jewel of [2:44:45] Jacksonville be reactivated [2:44:46] and then we preserve its [2:44:47] history. I hope that you'll [2:44:48] support this legislation. [2:44:48] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, [2:44:49] thank Doug Johnson, [2:44:50] Councilmember Blue. So thank [2:44:53] you. As PRESIDENT. This item [2:44:56] or this, this parcel has [2:44:57] discussed for many, many years [2:44:57] now. Glad to see that we're [2:44:59] seeing some real action on it. [2:45:00] I will say, though, one of the [2:45:01] things that I was looking at [2:45:02] doing as an amendment, but I'm [2:45:04] holding back on when the [2:45:06] property does go through and [2:45:09] gets old. One of my goals was [2:45:10] that we would take some of the [2:45:11] some of the cell costs about [2:45:11] $500,000 moving to the [2:45:12] Northwest Trust fund. [2:45:15] >> The reason why that number [2:45:16] makes sense is because year [2:45:17] ago we took out $500,000 from [2:45:19] the Trust fund because of the [2:45:21] fuel depot. If you recall. So [2:45:27] we we took 500 k I think put [2:45:28] it towards some project out. [2:45:29] They're related to the fuel [2:45:30] Depot and 500,000 is a lot in [2:45:32] the trust fund. And so for [2:45:33] those of us who have districts [2:45:36] that trust fund facts, there's [2:45:36] a lot of small businesses, [2:45:39] facade, grant improvements. [2:45:40] You know, especially in some [2:45:42] pretty hard hit, you know, [2:45:43] commercial areas. It's really, [2:45:44] really important. So just [2:45:46] bring that up now at a later [2:45:48] time. And we are talking about [2:45:50] where dollars go from the [2:45:51] sale. I just asked to keep an [2:45:52] open mind that we look at to [2:45:55] to to put at least if not, I [2:45:56] don't take all of it. I think [2:45:59] it is getting 500,000 to pay [2:45:59] off what was already taken [2:46:00] out. That's gonna make sense. [2:46:01] Thank you so much. All right. [2:46:04] Thank you. Councilmember done. [2:46:06] Was already in the queue to [2:46:07] say the exact opposite. I [2:46:07] think we should sell as much [2:46:10] as we can. [2:46:11] >> There's so many piece of [2:46:13] property the city owns and I [2:46:15] was happy to see this actually [2:46:15] got filed. I was dynamite ing [2:46:16] some of our staff to get off [2:46:20] their key stirs too. Get this [2:46:20] thing sold. Also some I'm glad [2:46:24] my my to go in here. But we [2:46:25] should sell anything that is [2:46:27] not necessary for government [2:46:29] service and we should take the [2:46:31] money that we get from [2:46:32] buildings and land that we [2:46:33] sell, whether it's in land [2:46:34] bank or anything else and use [2:46:35] it to pay off all this [2:46:37] ridiculous amount of [2:46:39] completion grants. So I would [2:46:40] ask that the Finance Committee [2:46:41] when we see this money come [2:46:41] through because it's gonna [2:46:43] come to the budget. Once the [2:46:45] sale closes that we grab as [2:46:47] much money we can in finance [2:46:48] and put it against completion [2:46:49] grants so that we can actually [2:46:50] survive the next couple of [2:46:51] years. I'm sure council and it [2:46:53] will greatly. Alright, [2:46:58] councilmember gay. Thank you, [2:47:00] MR. PRESIDENT of initially [2:47:02] voted against this. [2:47:07] >> But they came back and we [2:47:08] wouldn't get in the the money, [2:47:11] the deal that we should have. [2:47:12] And so they came. But before [2:47:15] rules and up to to 500,000 [2:47:19] more to it. So I was hoping by [2:47:20] the time we get here would [2:47:23] have another 500,000. But [2:47:24] supportive of and now. So [2:47:26] thank you. All right. That's [2:47:31] PRESIDENT White. [2:47:32] >> MR. Just mash the button [2:47:32] for MISS Pittman. Her [2:47:35] computers down. [2:47:36] >> Alright, COUNCILWOMAN [2:47:36] Pittman on behalf of past [2:47:46] present White. Just for [2:47:48] clarification. So I can [2:47:52] understand COUNCILMAN To me. [2:47:54] Can you share with me if this [2:47:56] is like a one time opportunity [2:47:59] for northwest or can we do [2:48:00] this with other deals as well? [2:48:05] Decide spot. Thank you, [2:48:07] COUNCILMAN Fly question to the [2:48:08] PRESIDENT. So no, I was just [2:48:09] saying when the sale nothing's [2:48:10] happening tonight. There's no [2:48:11] action this evening. But if [2:48:12] you recall, we had remember [2:48:13] the first year of our term. [2:48:14] >> lot of people redshirt [2:48:18] showed up for like 2 years [2:48:18] talking about a fuel depot in [2:48:22] district 12 later on that item [2:48:25] was withdrawn and for whatever [2:48:26] reason, we gave $500,000 on [2:48:27] the Northwest Trust Fund to [2:48:28] that entity, I think to move [2:48:31] the project to another place. [2:48:32] So that means we lost $500,000 [2:48:33] out of the Northwest Trust [2:48:35] fund those dollars on our [2:48:36] economic development go to a [2:48:37] slew of different things, [2:48:41] mainly for projects and [2:48:41] districts to 12 and then 7, 8, [2:48:46] 9, 10. So really hard hit [2:48:46] areas. Some really great [2:48:47] commercial corridors. I was [2:48:48] just suggesting like [2:48:49] COUNCILMAN Time it was [2:48:50] suggesting sale goes through [2:48:52] those dollars are, you know, [2:48:54] it's going to be up to the [2:48:55] administration and where those [2:48:57] dollars go from the sale go [2:48:58] directly to the general fund. [2:49:00] Doesn't go into reserve [2:49:02] contingency. Doesn't go into [2:49:03] the reserves. What does it do? [2:49:05] And I was just saying, let's [2:49:05] take the $500,000. That kind [2:49:08] of was abruptly taken out [2:49:11] towards the fuel Depot. Let's [2:49:12] put that money back into the [2:49:13] Northwest Trust funds. There's [2:49:14] a number of projects and I'm [2:49:15] sure can get done that. I'm [2:49:17] sure economic development like [2:49:18] to do. I know economic [2:49:19] development did a lot of work [2:49:20] on this project since I've [2:49:22] been in office. And so I also [2:49:23] want to make sure that that at [2:49:24] and his team and a few more [2:49:25] tools in the tool kit to help [2:49:26] make sure that our are areas [2:49:29] that are most hard hit, get [2:49:30] some additional resources. So [2:49:32] that said it wasn't meant for [2:49:32] one project. It's just meant [2:49:35] to go into the into the fund [2:49:36] so they can go to any number [2:49:37] of things. Yeah, I just I just [2:49:39] want to set presidents and if [2:49:41] we were, you know what type of [2:49:43] legislation would be done [2:49:45] because, you know, I remember [2:49:46] when this project first came, [2:49:48] I was very excited. I'm like. [2:49:51] >> COUNCILMAN Johnson. You [2:49:54] know, a lot of us have [2:49:55] experience opportunity in that [2:49:56] building when it was concerts [2:49:59] or anything like that. But I [2:49:59] just wanted to understand the [2:50:01] whole process. And what was [2:50:04] your thinking that? [2:50:05] >> Listen, if we want to put [2:50:05] all the dollars in the [2:50:06] Northwest Trust fund would [2:50:08] love it. But I feel like [2:50:09] Patriots might not want sure. [2:50:10] I understand. Thank you. All [2:50:11] right. That's present Salem [2:50:17] recognized. [2:50:19] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I [2:50:20] just wanted to stand in [2:50:22] support the comments by [2:50:23] Councilmember Diamond in terms [2:50:24] of trying to cover some of [2:50:25] these completion grants that [2:50:27] are going to swallow And I [2:50:29] bring your attention to 2025. [2:50:30] '09, 100 that we passed a [2:50:32] little while ago. Which is 2 [2:50:39] point. For a 3, 4 million [2:50:42] dollars and interest from from [2:50:43] the cra out on the north side [2:50:47] that has since closed and the [2:50:47] administration has proposed [2:50:50] spending it on some things. I [2:50:51] believe that money as well [2:50:53] should go towards completion [2:50:55] Now I'll be having an [2:50:56] amendment when that gets into [2:51:00] committee to do just that. [2:51:02] Councilmember gay, in his [2:51:04] district. Obviously if he had [2:51:05] some thoughts, I'm sure like [2:51:09] to hear those. But if not, we [2:51:10] need to. We need to pay off [2:51:12] these completion grants in any [2:51:12] money that we uncover, in my [2:51:15] opinion between now and budget [2:51:16] time ought to go towards that. [2:51:20] Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. [2:51:21] >> All right. Thank you past. [2:51:23] Present or lose you as Taylor [2:51:24] is on the ql as one on our [2:51:24] council auditors and they [2:51:27] won't speak. [2:51:28] >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT [2:51:28] through the present to the [2:51:29] council just for [2:51:30] clarification, wanted to make [2:51:32] sure everyone knows that [2:51:34] pretty amendment. It will go [2:51:34] into the Jax Recreational and [2:51:38] Land acquisition fund. So [2:51:39] separate legislation would be [2:51:42] needed if anyone, whatever [2:51:42] mission that anyone is wanting [2:51:44] to accomplish would need to be [2:51:46] filed to pull those funds out [2:51:48] of that fun. You wouldn't see [2:51:49] it on a quarterly summary. [2:51:49] That funds not going to show [2:51:50] up within that report. So just [2:51:51] wanted to clarify that. If you [2:51:52] have any questions. [2:51:53] >> All right. Thank you, MR. [2:51:57] Taylor PRESIDENT G. The [2:51:58] questions. I threw the council [2:52:03] PRESIDENT. Perhaps a general [2:52:05] counsel. There is this [2:52:05] considered of the armory, says [2:52:13] it used to be the home of the [2:52:13] recreation department. Just [2:52:14] consider Parkland. I'm just [2:52:20] curious. [2:52:21] >> Through the county council [2:52:22] PRESIDENT To Councilmember [2:52:23] College. You know, I don't [2:52:23] believe it's considered ok. [2:52:25] And the second question is [2:52:29] generally, when before we sell [2:52:32] surplus land, that land has to [2:52:33] be offer to all the different [2:52:34] city departments to see if [2:52:40] they. Have use of that land. [2:52:41] And is that going through that [2:52:42] process or does that process [2:52:45] even apply anymore? [2:52:46] >> Through the council [2:52:48] PRESIDENT To Councilmember [2:52:49] Carlucci. I do believe that [2:52:50] that process was undertaken. [2:52:52] There are some waivers in the [2:52:53] bill, but it was determined [2:52:55] that there wasn't a need for [2:52:56] it by any of the departments [2:52:56] within the city. So that was [2:52:59] way for going through and in [2:53:01] check in with all the [2:53:02] difference this. Hunter did [2:53:03] undertake that process, I [2:53:04] believe and clarified that [2:53:05] committee goes on. I just want [2:53:12] to make sure that was done let [2:53:13] me just make one little [2:53:15] editorial comment here since [2:53:16] everybody else's editorial [2:53:20] comments tonight. So concerned [2:53:22] about these completion grants. [2:53:23] We should have thought about [2:53:24] that when we cut the millage [2:53:26] rate at our last budget. Just [2:53:31] same. All right. Just wasn't a [2:53:32] proper posture. Believe the [2:53:33] substitute has already been [2:53:35] approved in the bill's been. [2:53:35] >> Moved. And second, Ines [2:53:40] upstairs, that wrecked. And [2:53:40] the Florida leaders in the [2:53:41] queue is joining. Go ahead. [2:53:43] Your favorite topic, maybe. [2:53:44] Thank you, PRESIDENT. All of [2:53:46] us continue to point out that [2:53:47] we were at the Finance [2:53:48] Committee given a budget that [2:53:49] had a 90 million $1.05 year [2:53:50] deficit when it left finance [2:53:52] with the millage rate. [2:53:52] >> They had a 80 million [2:53:54] dollar 5 year deficit. So with [2:53:56] the military reduction, our [2:53:58] Finance Committee budget [2:53:59] approved by full Council, [2:54:01] reduce the five-year deficit [2:54:01] by 10 Million. And I'll keep [2:54:03] on saying that whenever it [2:54:05] comes up. Thank you. [2:54:06] >> I'm Brian. Let's open about [2:54:21] a record votes. [2:54:27] >> 17 yeas, 0 nays. By action. [2:54:28] Approved 2025. 0, 8, 7, 6, as [2:54:31] substitute. It. [2:54:34] >> Next page, 41 2025 8, 7, 7, [2:54:35] the amendment. [2:54:35] >> Motion second on the [2:54:36] amendment. All in favor [2:54:38] amendment signify by saying [2:54:39] Aye. All right. You post an ad [2:54:40] the cares through the bill as [2:54:41] amended motion second on bill [2:54:42] as amended those in the queue. [2:54:43] Please up in about a quarter [2:54:58] vote. [2:55:04] >> 16 yeas, 0 nays by actually [2:55:07] approved 2025. To 0, 8, 7, 7, [2:55:10] >> And 42 in 25, 0, 7, 8, move [2:55:11] the amendment. [2:55:11] >> Motion second on the [2:55:13] amendment all in favor of [2:55:14] amendment signify by saying [2:55:15] aye any opposed, say nay. The [2:55:16] men carry see the bill as [2:55:17] amended motion. Second on the [2:55:17] bill as amended know is in the [2:55:18] queue. Please open the ballot [2:55:26] and record your vote. [2:55:29] >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. [2:55:30] >> By actually approved 2025 [2:55:33] to 0, 8, 7, 8 as amended for [2:55:34] 3, 2025, 0, 7, 9, with the [2:55:36] amendment motion. Second on [2:55:37] the amendment was in the queue [2:55:38] all in favor. The amendment [2:55:39] signify by saying Aye aye, any [2:55:40] opposed say nay. The amendment [2:55:43] cares bill as amended. We've [2:55:44] got a motion and a second on [2:55:46] the bill as amended that was [2:55:46] in the queue. Please open [2:55:58] about records about [2:55:59] >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. By [2:56:02] actually approved 20 or 8, 7, [2:56:03] 9 as amended. [2:56:03] >> He's 44 twenty-twenty [2:56:06] Pfizer, 8, 8, 0, move the [2:56:08] amendment motion second on the [2:56:08] amendment and was in the queue [2:56:09] on amendment signify by saying [2:56:11] Aye aye, any opposed say nay [2:56:14] and theres the bill has and [2:56:15] motion a second on the bill as [2:56:16] amended. There's no one in the [2:56:17] queue. Please up in about a [2:56:28] record. Your vote. [2:56:30] >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. Faction of [2:56:33] approved 2025 0, 8, 8, 0, as [2:56:35] amended page. 24 to second [2:56:35] reading resolutions. MISTER [2:56:36] Till MAY please read the [2:56:36] Bills. [2:56:41] >> 2025 902, 903. [2:56:45] >> 85 86 87. [2:56:47] >> Thank you, MR. Till we have [2:56:49] no action items are no public [2:56:49] participation carts who are [2:56:50] not going to go on to page. [2:56:52] 42, the addendum. And on Page [2:56:56] 40, I move the addendum. [2:56:57] Motion second on the all in [2:56:59] favor. Signify by saying Aye. [2:57:02] I both say they need is moved [2:57:03] MR. PRESIDENT the addendum [2:57:04] requires no action tonight. So [2:57:05] with that, we have completed [2:57:08] our agenda. All right. So [2:57:10] thank you for that. [2:57:22] >> We will now do roll call. [2:57:24] The [2:57:29] >> 17 present. [2:57:29] >> All right. We have an [2:57:35] announcement. COUNCILWOMAN [2:57:39] Pittman. Yes. Council members [2:57:40] that just wanted to let you [2:57:43] know, we have a birthday on [2:57:46] JANUARY. 24, which is Terrance [2:57:49] Freeman. He's not with us [2:57:49] today. In other birthdays at [2:57:53] we have already celebrate. It [2:57:54] will also we have George put [2:57:57] his birthday is also on the [2:58:02] 24, who is the dca for Joe [2:58:03] Carlucci and Williams. Her [2:58:05] birthday was on JANUARY. The [2:58:07] 10th. And then of course, Joe [2:58:10] Johnson's birthday was on [2:58:11] that. Well, he is the 4 counts [2:58:14] of men are now. Thank you so [2:58:16] much. Thank you. Councilmember [2:58:22] Makar Liz, the announcements. [2:58:26] There we go. [2:58:30] >> Just wanted to mention the [2:58:30] $900,000 that work so hard to [2:58:32] get for affordable housing [2:58:36] that and the budget. It is now [2:58:38] and the process of paying for [2:58:39] almost 50 townhomes at the [2:58:46] beach. And prospectively will [2:58:48] help a lot of veterans because [2:58:48] it's so close to Poor big of [2:58:52] Mont Mayport Base. Maybe some [2:58:54] of would be like to hear that. [2:58:56] I think it's great news [2:58:58] because 50 families that are [2:58:59] now going to have a place to [2:59:02] call home. And I intend to. [2:59:05] And this year trying to get [2:59:06] more money for affordable [2:59:10] housing. I think we had a very [2:59:12] good sunshine meeting the [2:59:12] other day. And I want to thank [2:59:15] those who came the to sunshine [2:59:18] eating and it ended. I enjoyed [2:59:21] meeting with you all. And the [2:59:22] point of personal privilege. I [2:59:23] want to say earlier which I [2:59:29] was denied. Which is rare by. [2:59:29] Any council PRESIDENT That [2:59:33] served with. Will simply say I [2:59:34] was putting my bill out there, [2:59:41] not as any personal challenge. [2:59:42] I never spoke to anything that [2:59:42] happened at the last [2:59:46] installation. I never mention [2:59:49] one thing personal about what [2:59:49] happened at the last [2:59:51] installation. I was simply [2:59:58] drawing. 50 years. Of [3:00:02] tradition of the city Council. [3:00:03] Does anybody remember me [3:00:04] saying anything personal about [3:00:06] any of that? What happened [3:00:10] last time? No, I didn't. I was [3:00:11] trying to stick to the merits [3:00:13] of the bill. I didn't talk [3:00:14] about all the money that was [3:00:18] spent. He collected. I tried [3:00:21] stick to the Mariners. I hope [3:00:25] maybe one day. So my service, [3:00:28] terrible timing. And I said, [3:00:28] you know, what I found is [3:00:31] never good timing up here. But [3:00:32] i did what I thought was [3:00:36] right. And have to say [3:00:37] disappointed in the city [3:00:40] Council tonight. But you voted [3:00:44] the way want to and and good [3:00:45] luck with the facing the [3:00:47] voters on that As I know how [3:00:49] the voters were talking to me [3:00:53] about the whole thing. Is MR. [3:00:58] PRESIDENT, I. Have tried to be [3:00:59] as respectful as possible. The [3:00:59] you I don't think I've [3:01:01] anything disrespectful to you. [3:01:06] Since you took office. Public. [3:01:12] On this floor. I would urge [3:01:13] you to extend more courtesy. [3:01:15] To your colleagues on this [3:01:20] council floor, thank you. [3:01:21] Thank you. Scarlett Jea. Did [3:01:22] you have one more announcement [3:01:23] before pray it out with the [3:01:27] chaplain? Alright has [3:01:28] >> We leave first of all, I'd [3:01:29] like to say I think [3:01:33] congratulations is in order to [3:01:35] our PRESIDENT Who list we got [3:01:39] merit for of the end of the [3:01:40] year. And I just want to say, [3:01:42] congratulations. Make got [3:01:48] bless for you and Ms Kerry Co [3:01:49] congratulations again. I let's [3:01:50] give him a big round of [3:01:52] applause. [3:01:53] >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank [3:01:56] you. [3:02:05] >> Chapman. We are adjourned. [3:02:12] >> ceremony was I do. You do. [3:02:13] Gracious GOD. We've come to [3:02:15] the close. Our first meeting [3:02:20] of New Year, new opportunity. [3:02:23] It. That you've given us to [3:02:24] continue to serve this [3:02:27] community. To ask you to [3:02:31] continue to pick off parts. [3:02:31] Our minds and remind us what [3:02:34] we're here for. It's not [3:02:37] self-service. It's public [3:02:41] service. Be with us for the [3:02:41] weeks ahead in the months [3:02:48] ahead. And the ironic blessing [3:02:49] simply says the law bless you [3:02:52] and keep you. Lord make his [3:02:54] face to shine upon. You. And [3:02:56] to be gracious unto you. And [3:02:59] to give you peace, leave in [3:03:14] peace, get home safely.