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seats. We're missing these 2.
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>> Good evening. I call to
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order the 7/28/2026 meeting of
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the full City Council. It is
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05:00pm and
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>> we do have a quorum.
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Welcome to the first full
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council meeting of the New
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Council year. I will turn it
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over to our new floor leader
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who's not news very well
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experience. And that's
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councilmember Michael.
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>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT,
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thank you, too, for your
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expression of confidence and
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me to serve as the 4 later
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again, I look forward to doing
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my very best to move these
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meetings forward in a timely
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fashion. Our first order of
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business is the invocation and
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pledge. I would ask that you
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please recognize council Milan
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Inter introduce senior pastor
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of Cats Creek Spike o You're
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recognized, sir. Thank you,
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MR. PRESIDENT floor leader.
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It's my honor tonight to
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welcome back. Pastor Spy
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Kogan, the senior pastor of
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Chats Creek Church.
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>> Pastor Spike has been
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familiar face and he is
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retiring after nearly 30 years
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as being the founding and
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senior pastor Chats Creek
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Church. I'll be brief on his
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biography here because a few
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minutes we will be presenting
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with him with the resolution
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honoring his service to our
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city. So with that passers-by,
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please.
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>> All right. Thank you so
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much for this day. Thank you
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for these men and women who
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represent our city so well. We
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pray your blessings on them.
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MAY they use your wisdom and
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guidance and all they do. And
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as they work things you bless
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them and continue to bless us
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to live in this wonderful city
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Jacksonville, Florida. GOD,
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thank you for this time
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together and we thank you.
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Love the opportunity. We have
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to enjoy serving together and
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most important of all. We
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thank you for the life that we
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have. You gave us. Ask all
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these things in the name of
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the one who saved me Jesus
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Christ. Amen. Please join me
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in the pledge. I pledge
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allegiance to the flag.
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>> This PRESIDENT, you have
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any announcements or roll
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call. Thank you, MR. Floor
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earlier, I would just like to
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note for everyone, the
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audience that the addendum
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will come up at the end of the
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meeting and on that is the
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veto override.
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>> That I think a lot of
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people are anticipating so
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just know that comes at the
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end of the meeting.
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>> And roll call,
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>> 17 present.
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>> As PRESIDENT, it's now time
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for the approval of the
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minutes from the regular
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council meeting of JUNE 23rd
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2026. I move for approval.
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>> We have a motion and second
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on the minutes we'll take this
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vote verbally on favor of the
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minutes indicate by saying Aye
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again saying no minutes past.
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>> The stress we have quite a
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number of communications for
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the mayor's office and other
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entities. Would you like those
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red are filed with legislative
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services? Let's find a place.
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COUNCILMAN Landon has an
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unscheduled presentation. He
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would like to make it this
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time. And as he heads to the
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podium down below. It's my
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pleasure to introduce today's
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pages, Joshua Heart stock read
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the stand and chain through
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Sarah, not me. How'd I do? Can
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All right. MR. Landing, you're
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recognized. Thank you. I
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believe MR. Till was going to
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read the resolution.
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Resolution 2026 to 72. Pastor
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Spy Kogan is faithfully served
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as the founding and senior
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pastor of Chats Creek Church
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in Jacksonville for over 2
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decades, providing spiritual
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leadership, guidance and
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encouragement to Jacksonville
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citizens. Under Pastor Hogans
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leadership Chats Creek Church
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founded in 1998. With its
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first public service in Chats
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Creek Elementary School has
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expanded to 3 locations and
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has grown into a vibrant and
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committed faith community.
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Born in Baton Rouge,
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Louisiana, Pastor Hogan earned
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degrees from William Carey
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University and Southwestern
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Baptist Theological Seminary
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and served at several other
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churches and on the staff of
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the Florida Baptist Convention
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before joining the team that
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launched Chats Creek Church.
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Pastor Hogan services extends
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beyond the church serving on
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the board of directors of one
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more child Florida Baptist
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Children's Homes and
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previously serving as a
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trustee of the North American
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Mission Board. And as a member
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of the Florida governor's
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faith-based and
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community-based advisory
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council. Pastor Hogan has on
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multiple occasions lead the
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opening prayer for the
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Jacksonville City Council
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meetings offering messages of
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reflection, unity and
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stewardship for councilmembers
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and the citizens they serve.
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Upon his retirement. The city
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Council wishes to recognize
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and honor Pastor Hogan for his
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outstanding contributions and
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service to his congregants as
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the broader Jacksonville
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community. Now, therefore. The
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resolve by the council, the
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city of Jacksonville. The city
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council hereby honors and
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commends Pastor Spike Hogan
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for his distinguished service
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is pastor of Chats Creek
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Church. And for his many
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contributions to the spiritual
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and civic life of Jacksonville
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and wishes him continued
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health, happiness and
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fulfillment in the years
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ahead.
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Thank you, colleagues
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for putting this resolution
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and pastor a spike. We
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appreciate everything you've
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done.
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>> The church has been a
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pillar in our community right
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there in the heart of
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district. 3. And then like the
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resolution says just all the
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work that have gone well
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beyond just the church and
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just all the great things
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you've done for our community
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for our city. So gonna MISS
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Seeing you here. Once a year.
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At least I think been a couple
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times either you or another
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pastor at a But church has
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come here to help in prayer.
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But I know the new pastor will
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be here as well. We look
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forward to meeting him. And
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again, just thank you for
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everything you've done here
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for your church and the
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citizens of Jacksonville son.
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>> Just real quick. Thank you.
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I'm honored and touched and be
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proud of you guys on a regular
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basis. Yes, a very important
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decisions to make in the weeks
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and months to come. I know
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I've had the privilege of
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knowing every mayor since John
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Peyton it's been our privilege
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to pray for them. And I'll
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continue pray for you retire.
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And I'm still in Jacksonville.
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Anything I do to help a
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service to you guys. Please
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let me know. And MAY GOD bless
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you and bless Jacksonville,
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Florida. Thank you. The
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Middle, MR. Vice PRESIDENT
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Given council PRESIDENT Is
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getting pictures will will
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will go to the q after the
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pictures taken because we do
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have some council members. I'd
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like to speak
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>> All right. We have a few
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members in the Councilmember
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framing you're recognized.
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Thank you, MISTER. Vice
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PRESIDENT Vice PRESIDENT To
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pass us by one. Thank you so
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much for your service. More
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importantly, thank you for
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your friendship. Truly believe
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in giving folks there Rose is
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why they can still And in
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DECEMBER of 2012, you probably
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didn't notice at the time, but
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I was sitting in your
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congregation in the back in
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the back Row Baptist
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preacher's kid. And you
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challenge your congregation to
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read a book. And one of the
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things that you said everyone
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should a read this book. Only
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about 80 pages, 80 by pages.
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It was called the prayer of
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Jabez. And I said, you know
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what? He just said less than
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100. I think I can get through
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this book. And I did and I saw
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my life change dramatically
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from that day forward because
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the first time that someone
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ever told me that was ok for
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me to pray for myself. That
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was I was growing up rain, but
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others. And so that prayer
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bless me, indeed, enlarge my
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territory. Keep your hand up
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on me. Has radically done some
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amazing things. So I want to
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thank you for your leadership.
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I want to thank you for all
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those blessings that followed
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that prayer. And just continue
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to do what you do. Thank you
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so Chair. Thank you, MR.
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Freeman missed Pittman. You're
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recognized. Karen to pastor.
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First of all, I want to say
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thank you for the work that
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you've done for this
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community. I met at the Clara
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White Mission with is is
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Stafford and one of the things
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they always said you say go
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outside of the church walls
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and make a difference in the
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community. And of course, as
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the staff, it was one of our
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counselors there and for
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individuals will also could
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not a prison. You help some of
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those individuals and stop.
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First of just say what matters
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to you matters to this
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community. And so just thank
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you. And I hope when you grow
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up, you notice that what you
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really want to do because you
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have done a lot in the journey
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for this community and we
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thank you so much. Thank you.
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And that concludes all the
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members in the queue. Pastor
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Hogan, thank you so much for
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all of your contributions to
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the community will be sorely
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missed a chance, but I'm sure
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you'll country continue to
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contribute greatly.
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>> Jacksonville, thank you,
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Thank you.
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>> This PRESIDENT Are now
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ready for Quay Zeit judicial
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actions. I'd like to remind
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everyone that these items were
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not. We are now taking up, do
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not include public hearings.
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As these matters were
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thoroughly reviewed at the
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committee level where the
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public hearings, we're part of
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the decision-making process.
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Council members are reminded
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that to declare x any ex parte
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communications. Our first time
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is on Page 4, 2026 for 3 z 8,
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a rezoning at 23.3 acres. Some
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rld one. 22 pd. I moved the
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bill.
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>> We have a motion and second
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on the bill. Seeing no
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speakers in the queue. Let's
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open the ballot. Of course,
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you both.
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>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
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>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
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3, 8, passes next item to
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2026, 4, 3, 9. The bill. We
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have a motion and second on
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the bill. We have 2 speakers
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in the queue will start with
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MISTER Carlucci MR. All right.
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Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I
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just need to declare ex parte.
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I met with Senator Moran, Rich
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millennia, my office on JULY.
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20th at 10:00am.
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>> We discussed site plan
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community involvement. The
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paperwork in Fy would
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legislative services. All
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right. Thank you, MR. Vice
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PRESIDENT Over to council in
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it. Think PRESIDENT Recep
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career just to the clerics
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part spoke with Cindy Trimmer
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on MAY 12 to get an
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explanation of this. Bill Rep
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refers filed, filed this with
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legislative services.
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>> Thank you, sir. No other
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speakers in the queue. We do
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have a motion and a second. On
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the bill to open the ballot.
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The court of it.
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>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
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>> And by your vote, 2026, 0,
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4, 3, 9, passes PRESIDENT.
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We're now ready for the
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consent agenda. I want to
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remind my colleagues that if
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you want to be added as a
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co-sponsor to any of these
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items, please let the chief of
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legislative services know via
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email as council rules
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prohibit pulling items for
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this particular reason MR.
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Taylor, would you please read
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the Bills 2026? 4.53 Or 96
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5.15, by 16 and 5.51
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PRESIDENT. I move the approval
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of the consent agenda.
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>> Very good. We have a motion
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and second to approve the
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consent agenda. Seeing no
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speakers in the queue. Let's
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open the ballot. The course
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>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
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>> By your vote, the consent
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agenda passes. PRESIDENT
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Colleagues that we have one
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more item to be taken up
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before moving to public
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comment. It can be found on
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page. 38 item number. 83
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Twenty-twenty 6, 5, 9, 2. I
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move the emergency. We have a
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motion and second on the
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emergency, no speakers in the
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queue. Let's take a verbal
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vote on the in favor indicate
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by saying Aye, again saying
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no, the emergency passes this
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pres. We have no public
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participation cards on this. I
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moved the bill as an
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emergency. We have a motion
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and second on the bill as an
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emergency, no speakers open
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about a quarter of
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>> 17 yeas, 0 nays by your
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vote. 2026, 0, 5, 9, 2 is
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approved. This PRESIDENT Would
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suggest you recognize the
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rules chair at this time we
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recognize the rules chair, MR.
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Gay.
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>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT,
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we have just approved the
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following appointments as part
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of the consent agenda. Plus
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additional item we took up
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tonight. If you are in the
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please stand to be recognized.
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Michelle Begley to the Chief
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Accounting Division,
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Department of Finance and
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Administration of the City of
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Jacksonville. Surely Dasher to
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the Value Adjustment Board.
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Please join me thanking them
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for their service.
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>> This PRESIDENT Has a per
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ordinance 2022, 4, 7, 5, e we
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are now ready for public
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comments. Council members are
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reminded this is our time to
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hear from the public. And this
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is not a time for questions or
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answers or debate. However,
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remember, the public MAY be
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invited to Robert Johnson room
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for further Councilmembers
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subject to the rule of
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PRESIDENT Presiding officer
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the PRESIDENT. They extend
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this invitation. Ladies and
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gentleman. Hey, if you wish to
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speak, you should have filled
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out a green public comment
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card. No cards will accepted
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after 05:06pm, Council rules.
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Call for an allotment of 90
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minutes for public comment in
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the event there is an excess
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number of cards submitted a
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lot of time of 3 minutes MAY
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be shortened so that we're all
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wishing to speak, have an
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opportunity to do so.
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PRESIDENT. We have 23 25
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cards. We limit to not change
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the limit right now. So it
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will be 3 minutes per per
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ticket per participant. During
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our public comment time only
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the speaker will be allowed to
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the podium. Less physical
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assistance is required provide
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this opportunity for the
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public comment. He on what the
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state law requires as such.
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You must state your name and
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address before beginning your
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common or just say my address
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is on file, assuming you put
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it on the cart. I will
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announce 5 speakers at a time
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in the order. They are to
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appear. When I call your name.
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I ask that you move down to
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the front row.
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>> As we preserve stands for
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you, they're your time will
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start when you arrive at the
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podium. We thank you for being
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here. This evening. And our
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first 5 speakers are. Kim Fund
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to jail. Roxy McLeod. White
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Wyche. Angela 10 broeck Dana,
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Brooke. And Valerie Hermann
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come on down to the front and
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while they're coming forward,
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I would ask MR. Deal to read
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through counsel rule 4.5, 0,
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5, As a rule. 4.5, 0, 5,
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disruption of meeting. Any
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person who disrupts the
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regular meeting of the City
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Council standing committees
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special or select committees,
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subcommittees or any other
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public meeting presided over
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by a city council member maybe
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forthwith barred, removed or
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otherwise ejected in the
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discretion of the presiding
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officer from further
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attendance at that meeting. If
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necessary, due to the nature
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of the disruption. The
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audience MAY be cleared from
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the council chambers or
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meeting location in the
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discretion of the presiding
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officer. Any person who
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refuses to leave the City
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Council chamber MAY be subject
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to arrest. To please not the
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start. Time is 5.17 Once
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again. Our first speaker is
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Kim kill that. I got it right
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that time. I hope you did
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fontecchio. Yes, sir. Again,
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these pressure to provide your
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name and address in our note
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that it's on fire.
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>> Good Evening. City Council,
[16:57]
PRESIDENT And council members.
[16:58]
My name is Kimberly
[17:00]
Fontecchio. I'm the property
[17:02]
owner and sole resident of 2,
[17:03]
7, 2, 9, dilan a good drive in
[17:06]
district 2. I'm here tonight
[17:07]
to stand in solidarity with
[17:09]
Nathan and our local urban
[17:11]
agricultural coalition to urge
[17:12]
this council to pass the right
[17:15]
to garden at. This matter is
[17:16]
deeply personal to me because
[17:17]
on JULY 13th that this year,
[17:19]
the city of Jacksonville
[17:20]
officially executed an
[17:21]
approved my formal certificate
[17:22]
of use for fun Taquitos
[17:25]
community Garden. Despite
[17:27]
being fully permitted unlawful
[17:28]
and Uppal standards, operators
[17:31]
like myself continue to face
[17:32]
targeted harassment and the
[17:34]
U.S. Enforcement of selective
[17:36]
covenants and unwarranted
[17:37]
interference from H.O.A. Is
[17:38]
trying to dictate their
[17:38]
interpretation of city zoning
[17:43]
laws. Food independence,
[17:45]
agricultural wellness and
[17:46]
gathering together in peaceful
[17:46]
community connection are basic
[17:49]
human rights. This council has
[17:52]
a historic opportunity tonight
[17:54]
to protect its own permitted
[17:55]
land. Use defendant's
[17:56]
residence and solidify our
[17:59]
city's future. We ask that you
[18:01]
past the home occupation Bill
[18:02]
tonight and in the coming days
[18:04]
come it to sponsor the free to
[18:06]
garden at so we can move it
[18:08]
forward for filing an
[18:09]
introduction. Thank you. Can
[18:11]
contact you.
[18:11]
>> Thank you, ma'am. Next we
[18:20]
have Roxanne, clout. It's
[18:20]
always so exciting to stand
[18:22]
here in front you. My name is
[18:26]
Roxy McLeod and I very proudly
[18:29]
live in District 10 at 8, 0,
[18:33]
2, 9 Buffalo Avenue. And I am
[18:34]
here to first of all I forgot
[18:37]
to do. Last time I talked to
[18:38]
you, I'll be wearing this hat
[18:41]
when you come to cs. At the
[18:44]
community Garden in Panama
[18:45]
Park. It's right. I mean, it's
[18:46]
like between here. It's just
[18:47]
before you get to the zoo. You
[18:50]
don't have to drive far. Just
[18:51]
come and see the garden. You
[18:52]
will love it. You will be
[18:54]
allowed to pick some tomatoes.
[18:58]
Ca some peppers. Okay. So
[18:59]
please come to see our garden
[19:01]
in Panama Park. It's called
[19:03]
common ground where we grow
[19:04]
together. And I'll tell you a
[19:07]
little story just this
[19:08]
morning. I was in the garden
[19:12]
where I love to be and across
[19:13]
fence. One of the little
[19:18]
neighbor, she's 5 years old
[19:19]
and she's going okay,
[19:20]
kindergarten, can I a gun? She
[19:21]
loves to come the garden.
[19:21]
Well, I was just about to
[19:23]
leave.
[19:24]
>> broker Hardin said no, not
[19:25]
today. Tomorrow. Tomorrow you
[19:27]
can come to the garden
[19:28]
tomorrow.
[19:29]
>> That the garden is so much
[19:29]
more than all the perfect
[19:30]
things that Kim just said. I'm
[19:34]
not going to repeat it. I'm
[19:36]
here to support that act for
[19:37]
freedom to garden. Please,
[19:38]
please. I'm asking you to
[19:39]
support it, too. In all the
[19:42]
things that she said. But I'm
[19:43]
just telling you that it's not
[19:46]
just for Food, Inc and
[19:47]
stability, and it grows
[19:48]
neighborhoods. It grows
[19:50]
community. The people that
[19:52]
come into that garden and work
[19:53]
side by side are weeding
[19:54]
side-by-side. They're telling
[19:56]
stories things they had. They
[19:59]
didn't even remember from way
[19:59]
back when they were sharing
[20:03]
recipes with each other. The
[20:04]
beauty and the strength that
[20:05]
it creates in a neighborhood
[20:08]
in a community cannot be
[20:10]
emphasized enough. I cannot
[20:11]
tell you how beautiful it is
[20:15]
to see so many people of all
[20:16]
ages from that five-year-old
[20:18]
all the way to the old people.
[20:18]
They can just barely get
[20:20]
there. They love to share
[20:22]
their wisdom. So anyway,
[20:23]
community gardens are the way
[20:24]
to go. So please, please,
[20:26]
please support this act. And
[20:27]
that's enough. But I want to
[20:29]
see you and you know where I'm
[20:31]
at. So come to the garden.
[20:32]
Only one of you have come here
[20:35]
to the garden so far.
[20:35]
>> Thank you, ma'am. Next we
[20:38]
have heard junior. I hope I
[20:44]
pronounced that correctly. Are
[20:45]
you doing? My name is heard as
[20:50]
whites.
[20:51]
>> Her address my address is
[21:00]
stated on. Thank you.
[21:09]
>> Hi, guys. Only to arc.
[21:25]
>> About the
[21:27]
>> I'm here today to support
[21:29]
the free to Garnett because I
[21:30]
have seen firsthand how
[21:32]
community gardens improve
[21:33]
public health, strengthen
[21:34]
neighborhoods, great education
[21:36]
opportunities for you and
[21:38]
increase access to fresh
[21:40]
healthy food. Every week I
[21:42]
work alongside families,
[21:43]
volunteers and community
[21:43]
members who are learning to
[21:46]
grow their own food community
[21:48]
gardens are more than places
[21:49]
to grow vegetables with their
[21:51]
outdoor classroom spaces for
[21:52]
healing workforce development
[21:55]
and community connection.
[21:56]
Unfortunately, organizations
[21:57]
dedicated to serving their
[21:59]
communities have often face
[22:00]
unnecessary barriers to
[22:03]
establishing and operating
[22:04]
gardens, making community and
[22:09]
market garden. Clearly
[22:12]
permissible will help schools,
[22:12]
nonprofits, neighborhoods and
[22:14]
Faith based organization is
[22:15]
focused on serving people
[22:18]
rather than navigating
[22:19]
uncertainty. We respectfully
[22:22]
ask that you pass the home
[22:23]
occupation Bill tonight and
[22:24]
the coming days committed to
[22:25]
sponsoring the free to guard
[22:27]
Nate so we can move forward
[22:30]
and for filing introduction.
[22:33]
Thank you for your time. Your
[22:33]
service.
[22:34]
>> Thank u next. We have
[22:41]
Angela 10, Brooke. Good
[22:41]
Evening Council. PRESIDENT
[22:43]
Members of the City Council.
[22:45]
My name is Angela Time,
[22:46]
Brooke. And I reside at 49
[22:49]
story court. I'm the executive
[22:50]
director for the Center for
[22:51]
Sustainable Agricultural
[22:53]
Excellence and Conservation. I
[22:54]
was honored to serve as the
[22:55]
city of Jacksonville's first
[22:59]
and ultimately last manager of
[23:00]
ag Urban ag, Agriculture,
[23:00]
Fisheries and land use policy.
[23:04]
A role created to strengthen
[23:05]
our local food system and
[23:07]
improve food, security. And
[23:08]
Jacksonville's residents. That
[23:09]
position was created because
[23:13]
many in Jacksonville recognize
[23:13]
that food security is not
[23:14]
simply an agricultural issues.
[23:17]
It's an economic issue. Health
[23:18]
issues and environmental issue
[23:20]
and a community resilience
[23:22]
issue. Our goal was straight
[23:24]
forward to put more locally
[23:25]
grown food and our
[23:26]
neighborhoods support our
[23:27]
farmers, ranchers, Waterman
[23:30]
and ally producer businesses
[23:32]
to create educational
[23:33]
opportunities, conserve water
[23:35]
and strengthen local food
[23:35]
systems. Although that
[23:37]
position was eliminated, the
[23:40]
mission did not end since
[23:41]
leaving the city. I have
[23:42]
continue this work around the
[23:44]
world, helping communities and
[23:44]
multiple continents develop
[23:46]
sustainable food systems that
[23:48]
conserve water, create jobs,
[23:50]
improve nutrition, increase,
[23:51]
food security. Everywhere I
[23:55]
go. I see governments.
[23:56]
Governments investing in
[23:58]
policies that make it easier,
[24:00]
not harder for people to grow
[24:02]
food. That is why I stand here
[24:03]
today before you to support
[24:05]
the free to Garden Act. This
[24:07]
legislation is about
[24:08]
empowering residents. It gives
[24:08]
families the opportunity to
[24:11]
grow healthy food, teach
[24:12]
children were food and their
[24:15]
food comes from strengthen
[24:16]
neighborhoods and become more
[24:18]
resilient during times of
[24:19]
economic uncertainty and
[24:21]
supply chain disruptions.
[24:23]
Jacksonville has an
[24:25]
opportunity. We should be
[24:26]
developing legislation that
[24:27]
encourages food production,
[24:28]
remove unnecessary barriers
[24:30]
and supports homeowners
[24:31]
schools. Community gardens,
[24:32]
nonprofits and local farmers
[24:35]
alike. Food security cannot
[24:36]
rely solely on grocery stores
[24:40]
and food banks. It begins in
[24:41]
our own backyards schools,
[24:44]
churches and neighborhoods.
[24:45]
Every garden represents a
[24:46]
healthier family, stronger
[24:48]
communities and reduce
[24:49]
environmental impacts and
[24:51]
greater local resilience.
[24:53]
Let's make Jacksonville don't
[24:53]
for the food. We empower our
[24:56]
citizens to grow. I
[24:57]
respectfully ask you support
[24:58]
the free to Garden Act so that
[25:00]
we can continue to build a
[25:03]
city where every resident has
[25:05]
the opportunity to grow share
[25:06]
access, fresh, healthy food.
[25:08]
Thank you for your time. Your
[25:11]
service to our community and
[25:11]
your support of the free to
[25:14]
Garden Act. Thank you, Next,
[25:16]
we have the Valerie Hermann.
[25:17]
In the meantime, I want fight
[25:19]
the phone to please come to
[25:20]
the front. Kathleen Pereira,
[25:24]
Marion Corny. Chaplin. Jerry,
[25:28]
Michelle Wilson. And Nathan
[25:29]
Valentine. Please come on down
[25:29]
to the front.
[25:32]
>> Go ahead. MISS Herman. Good
[25:37]
evening. My name is Valerie
[25:38]
Hermann.
[25:38]
>> And executive director of
[25:43]
first Coast Urban ag. We
[25:44]
create agriculturally immerse
[25:45]
that play spaces for children
[25:45]
and families in the urban
[25:46]
core. My address is on file.
[25:51]
Thank you. Friends, neighbors
[25:55]
and members of the council. It
[25:56]
was never about a hot dog and
[25:59]
a coke. And today it's not
[26:00]
about a tomato or a green
[26:06]
bean. In the 1960's opponents
[26:08]
framed lunch counters as a
[26:09]
threat to public order and
[26:13]
neighborhood character. A
[26:15]
threat to public order and
[26:17]
neighborhood character.
[26:21]
Absurd. And yet sounds eerily
[26:26]
familiar. Then as now it was
[26:30]
just about food. It is about
[26:33]
human dignity. It is about
[26:36]
equal citizenship. It is about
[26:40]
healthy food, sovereignty. And
[26:42]
it is about our fundamental
[26:42]
right to gather in public
[26:48]
space. Because democracy is
[26:52]
not born in City Hall. It has
[26:54]
created in the daily
[26:55]
unscripted conversations which
[26:57]
usually happen over food.
[26:59]
Whether at a lunch counter or
[27:04]
across a garden bed. If the
[27:05]
city fears its own neighbors
[27:08]
growing food. It is a city
[27:09]
losing touch with its own
[27:14]
people. When garden spaces are
[27:15]
restricted by a generous
[27:18]
amount of red tape. It does
[27:21]
not create just a food desert.
[27:22]
But a Democratic desert as
[27:28]
well. I think we can all agree
[27:28]
our civic fabric needs
[27:33]
tending. And the best place to
[27:34]
do it is over lunch. Wouldn't
[27:40]
you agree? Please come it to
[27:42]
sponsor the Free to Garden Act
[27:44]
so we can forward for filing
[27:48]
an introduction.
[27:49]
>> Thank u next. We have
[27:54]
Kathleen per.
[27:55]
>> My name is Kathleen. Per my
[27:58]
information is on file.
[27:59]
Congratulations to the new
[28:01]
leadership of the council and
[28:02]
special thanks to PRESIDENT
[28:03]
How and for strengthening the
[28:05]
partnership with the 6th see
[28:06]
packs together, we will
[28:07]
continue to build a better
[28:12]
city. By the way. Did you know
[28:13]
that you have an allotted
[28:15]
amount of time to enjoy your
[28:16]
peace and quiet and privacy of
[28:18]
your home before development
[28:19]
has the right to barge in and
[28:23]
destroy it. All. That is the
[28:24]
impression I got from Sporting
[28:25]
Jax after my fox Chase
[28:26]
neighborhoods. Recent meeting
[28:28]
with U.S. Representatives.
[28:29]
Apparently our neighborhoods,
[28:33]
privacy in peace quota is 37
[28:35]
years. And so we should just
[28:36]
accept the development. That
[28:39]
will be a crouching upon us.
[28:39]
And then I guess we shouldn't
[28:41]
feel sorry for the Windy Hill
[28:42]
neighborhood. If their septic
[28:46]
tanks and well, water gets get
[28:47]
contaminated by this
[28:48]
development says their peace
[28:49]
quota expired 40 years before
[28:53]
our neighbors neighborhoods.
[28:54]
And the soccer stadium. Folks
[28:55]
think that roughly one-half
[28:56]
mile buffer between our
[28:58]
neighborhood in a stadium for
[29:00]
15,000 people is enough to
[29:04]
dampen a loud concert branches
[29:05]
soccer game one. If you an app
[29:08]
had allowed concert tonight,
[29:09]
we could hear it even with a
[29:12]
mile Buffer mile buffer. And
[29:15]
that doesn't include the extra
[29:17]
15,000 cars that will grid
[29:18]
lot, the current congestion in
[29:21]
Saint Johns Town center. The
[29:22]
best scenario is to have
[29:25]
sporting Jax partner with ata
[29:26]
and building share the soccer
[29:28]
stadium. Rd zoned to be built
[29:31]
in sporting complex downtown
[29:32]
Jacksonville does not need to
[29:37]
major soccer stadium venues.
[29:38]
Finally, please support 2026,
[29:39]
0, 5, 7, o which is being
[29:42]
introduced tonight. For about
[29:45]
the e-bikes and please adopt a
[29:45]
resolution to declare
[29:49]
charlie dent day for OCTOBER
[29:49]
14th. And I think the right to
[29:50]
grow is a pretty good idea to
[29:53]
thank you.
[29:54]
>> Thank u next. We have Mary
[30:01]
Courtney.
[30:02]
>> Good evening. My name is
[30:04]
Mary in Kearney. My address is
[30:08]
on file. And this is my second
[30:08]
time to speak in front of you.
[30:09]
So please, if I sound nervous,
[30:12]
I am. But I would like to talk
[30:16]
to you about that. Irreparable
[30:19]
environmental damage of having
[30:21]
40 Jax Soccer stadium and
[30:22]
development in Big Island's
[30:27]
warm. Construction and paving
[30:28]
increase to run off into the
[30:29]
public face in elevation.
[30:32]
Local neighborhood flood risk
[30:33]
and threatening natural water
[30:35]
filtration buffers. Also
[30:39]
removing the tree canopy,
[30:40]
reduces the water absorption
[30:40]
after drainage and causes
[30:45]
flooding. To mention the
[30:46]
environmental impact of
[30:50]
destroying the nesting sites.
[30:51]
Food source is in protective
[30:51]
cover for native birds and
[30:54]
amphibians and mammals.
[30:56]
According to recent newspaper,
[30:59]
articles are Saint Johns River
[31:00]
is already experiencing
[31:01]
massive amounts of pollution
[31:06]
and algae blooms. This going
[31:08]
to so construction in the
[31:08]
runoff and the fact that
[31:09]
they're going to have to raise
[31:11]
the water table. To that
[31:12]
property decent. It is a
[31:15]
swamp. Will cause more
[31:15]
problems for Saint Johns
[31:20]
River. So I'm taking you. To
[31:22]
remember this when it comes
[31:25]
time to vote and say vote no.
[31:26]
For this Tucker Stadium and
[31:31]
development.
[31:31]
>> Thank u next. We have
[31:41]
chaplain Jerry with
[31:41]
>> Good evening, chaplain.
[31:43]
Jerry, address on file? I want
[31:50]
to PRESIDENT How and Vice
[31:52]
PRESIDENT Carlucci for taking
[31:54]
over leadership. I know really
[31:54]
want to make this a
[31:57]
conservative. Budget that's
[32:01]
coming up. Because we're all
[32:02]
taxpayer dollars. We have to
[32:05]
watch our budgets. But
[32:08]
tonight, I want to stand with
[32:08]
John Labor real and the
[32:10]
Christian Family Coalition
[32:11]
group. I'm asking the City
[32:16]
Council to honor Charlie Kirk.
[32:17]
This man is widely known to
[32:18]
inspire our youth on our
[32:20]
college campuses all around
[32:22]
the country. Charlie has
[32:22]
debated and how many events
[32:25]
right here in Jacksonville.
[32:27]
This young man, news debate to
[32:28]
educate and what the students
[32:30]
find the truth and that a
[32:33]
happy and blessed life. He
[32:35]
modeled his Christian my by
[32:36]
marrying the love of his life
[32:36]
and becoming a dad to his
[32:40]
children. He debated so people
[32:41]
would understand that the
[32:43]
unborn or a blessing and not a
[32:45]
curse. And that children are
[32:45]
to be loved and raised by a
[32:48]
mom and dad. He's believe came
[32:51]
from the Bible. He wanted
[32:52]
other young people to have joy
[32:55]
and peace that he had found.
[32:57]
He was always respectful and
[32:58]
news truth and logic to be his
[33:00]
sword in his cultural battle.
[33:01]
He even tried to wake up our
[33:03]
churches to the Islamic
[33:05]
threat. He was a watchman on
[33:07]
the wall and he was Eva Lee
[33:11]
brutally mass estimated. So I
[33:12]
would like to see OCTOBER 14th
[33:14]
this Charlie Kirk Remembrance
[33:16]
Day with his books displayed
[33:18]
OCTOBER 12 to the 17th in our
[33:20]
libraries. So children can
[33:24]
learn and read from his books.
[33:25]
I feel that this council needs
[33:28]
to stand with the citizens and
[33:29]
homeowners and not allow a
[33:31]
soccer stadium right next to 2
[33:32]
neighborhoods. The sound, the
[33:36]
traffic, the lights, put it
[33:36]
somewhere else where there's
[33:37]
lots of room where everybody
[33:40]
can enjoy it. We have our see
[33:42]
packs that are not being
[33:44]
listened to such as the
[33:45]
Chick-Fil-a that was built to
[33:45]
spite neighbor saying it would
[33:48]
make it dangerous to leave
[33:49]
their neighborhood. And now
[33:50]
many of my friends are dealing
[33:54]
with those issues. It has not
[33:55]
been that long ago that we
[33:56]
were finding an Islamic
[33:59]
slaughterhouse. We stopped it.
[34:01]
But now there might be a
[34:06]
mosque. So please research and
[34:06]
listen before approving all
[34:07]
these cuties and over
[34:08]
developments in our city.
[34:09]
Please remember that the
[34:11]
citizens voted for you respect
[34:15]
and listen to them. I support
[34:15]
the Free Garden Act. People
[34:17]
should be allowed to grow a
[34:18]
garden blast and have a great
[34:21]
night. Michelle Wilson is
[34:30]
next.
[34:30]
>> Good evening. My name is
[34:31]
Michelle Wilson and my
[34:33]
addresses on file. Since
[34:37]
JANUARY. The 12th we have had
[34:39]
a business that has moved into
[34:40]
the residential neighborhood
[34:42]
of Panama Terrace. I have made
[34:46]
23 my Jax reports to report a
[34:47]
noise nuisance not having a
[34:48]
fence around their swimming
[34:50]
pool invasion of my privacy
[34:52]
when they removed brush
[34:53]
building on the property line
[34:54]
have been an illegal business
[34:56]
and a food truck and now
[34:58]
dumping pull water in my
[35:01]
backyard. Last Friday, a city
[35:02]
employee actually came out and
[35:03]
did a reading found out that
[35:06]
they were in violation of the
[35:07]
noise ordinance. I've made 4
[35:09]
calls to alcohol, tobacco,
[35:11]
firearms. I've been to to ask
[35:12]
a lawyer events where I was
[35:16]
told that maybe I might try
[35:17]
the media investigative
[35:17]
reporter Anthony Austin came
[35:20]
out and did a report and now
[35:22]
I'm on an hbo documentary
[35:24]
about neighbors I've made. 24
[35:26]
caused the for illegal
[35:27]
parking. Almost got hit twice
[35:30]
by wrong-way drivers going
[35:31]
northbound in the southbound
[35:34]
lane North Pearl Street as
[35:35]
well as not being able to see
[35:38]
a left turn to turn on my own
[35:39]
street. No, I've been told
[35:41]
that no one has a decibel
[35:43]
reader. None of the jso and
[35:44]
then jso even told me by my
[35:48]
own decibel reader. And then I
[35:49]
was told that it was up to jso
[35:50]
whether they get a citation or
[35:53]
not. So city council can save
[35:54]
money if the city is the one
[35:54]
buying citations because
[35:57]
they're not reading them. I
[36:00]
was informed that there's one
[36:01]
lieutenant district, that has
[36:02]
been trained. But no one seems
[36:02]
to know who that is or when
[36:06]
they work. 7 months ago, a
[36:09]
news for Jax Officer Christian
[36:09]
Hancock showed a decibel
[36:10]
reader and said what the
[36:12]
citizen should do. There's
[36:14]
even a fire on the city's
[36:16]
website of what to do when you
[36:18]
have noise, nuisance,
[36:20]
neighbors. I've made 2 calls
[36:23]
to my beloved COUNCILWOMAN I
[36:27]
love seeing your face. Photo
[36:28]
ops ribbon cutting in awards.
[36:31]
But we need your help over in
[36:33]
Panama Terrace. We have been
[36:34]
terrorized by city bricks at
[36:38]
68. 43 North Pearl Street
[36:39]
since JANUARY. And they're not
[36:40]
registered as a business.
[36:41]
Anderson Biz. I don't know
[36:45]
what else to do when I go in
[36:45]
my backyard because I believe
[36:48]
in the free to Garden act, I'm
[36:51]
trying to get edible
[36:52]
schoolyard for individuals and
[36:53]
special needs. But I can't go
[36:54]
in my backyard. The music is
[36:58]
just that loud. They think
[36:58]
they see me and they yell
[37:00]
after Michelle across the
[37:02]
fence, the neighbors, if we
[37:04]
call to get the noise turned
[37:05]
out. And one night when I was
[37:07]
working and I wasn't even
[37:10]
there, threatened my house up,
[37:11]
which makes my daughter not
[37:13]
want to go to sleep at night.
[37:15]
So I'm asking for some kind of
[37:17]
help. I'm going to be writing
[37:19]
to the mayor and a jso, but we
[37:21]
need some help. And from what
[37:22]
I'm getting from sheriffs,
[37:23]
they say, well, it is
[37:25]
Jacksonville. Thank you,
[37:28]
ma'am. Next we have a Nathan
[37:31]
Valentina.
[37:32]
>> In the meantime, I'd invite
[37:33]
the others to come forward is
[37:37]
to come forward with Thompson,
[37:39]
James Weston, that he signed
[37:43]
ERs Lazaro Salinas and Laura
[37:45]
McKeithen. We're going to
[37:48]
limit after MISTER Valentine.
[37:48]
We're gonna limit to 2 and a
[37:49]
half and it's going forward
[37:50]
pick up some additional cards.
[37:56]
Go ahead, sir. And MR. Would
[37:58]
like to talk to Ms Wilson in
[37:58]
the Robert Johnson rooms of
[38:05]
Wilson, if you're still. Go
[38:09]
ahead, sir. Good evening.
[38:10]
Council PRESIDENT Council
[38:11]
members. It's going to be
[38:13]
here. My name is Nathan
[38:16]
Valentine. Overall farm grows
[38:20]
at one. 25 the 7th Street. I'm
[38:22]
here to advocate for the Free
[38:24]
to Garden Act, which will make
[38:25]
market in community gardens
[38:25]
permissible by Wright in
[38:29]
Jacksonville. There is
[38:32]
extensive legal precedent. And
[38:36]
best practices to drop on. Had
[38:36]
been drawn up on in the
[38:37]
drafting of our proposed
[38:42]
legislation. Did you know that
[38:43]
all of the following cities
[38:45]
have defined and made legally
[38:46]
permissible market and or
[38:46]
community gardens.
[38:53]
>> By law. Tampa. Saint Pete.
[38:55]
Fort Lauderdale. West Palm
[39:00]
Beach. Gainesville Lake, Lynn
[39:04]
and Titusville, Florida.
[39:05]
Atlanta, savanna Athens, Clark
[39:09]
County in Decatur, Georgia,
[39:10]
Birmingham and Mobile,
[39:11]
Alabama, Nashville and
[39:12]
Chattanooga, Tennessee,
[39:13]
Louisville, Kentucky, Raleigh,
[39:14]
Charlotte, Winston-Salem and
[39:15]
Wilmington, North Carolina.
[39:17]
Columbia, South Carolina.
[39:20]
Norfolk. Chesapeake and
[39:26]
Richmond, Virginia. Houston,
[39:29]
and Dallas. Not to mention
[39:30]
Kansas City, Baltimore,
[39:33]
Cincinnati in Pittsburgh. I
[39:38]
could go on for a long time.
[39:38]
Meanwhile, though, our own
[39:41]
comp plan says that the city
[39:43]
of Jacksonville, quote, Shall
[39:46]
encourage community gardens.
[39:48]
There are no zoning
[39:50]
definitions or permissions to
[39:53]
get that dictate lakes. It is
[39:54]
time we updated our zoning
[39:55]
code with the free to Garden
[39:57]
Act. We're not asking for the
[40:00]
world here. We're merely
[40:02]
asking for the legal
[40:04]
permission to grow food with
[40:07]
and for our neighbors. We
[40:09]
request that you pass the home
[40:10]
occupation bill with all
[40:12]
deliberate speed and then in
[40:14]
the coming days commit to
[40:15]
sponsor the Free to Garden
[40:19]
Act. Thank you so much. Thank
[40:20]
you, sir. Next we have are
[40:27]
with Thompson.
[40:28]
>> Good evening. My name is
[40:29]
Ruth Thompson. And my
[40:33]
information is on file. I rely
[40:35]
on the laws of the Florida
[40:36]
Agriculture Department for my
[40:39]
business, which is be great
[40:40]
periods. It allows be keeping
[40:44]
in the urban area. And I would
[40:45]
like to see Jacksonville
[40:47]
passes. Same urban
[40:48]
agricultural rules for the
[40:50]
free to Garden Act, allowing
[40:52]
people to farm and there are
[40:57]
urban area. One of the most
[41:00]
direct economic benefits urban
[41:02]
farming is the stimulation of
[41:04]
local economies through the
[41:06]
farmers markets. That's where
[41:07]
my daughter and I who are
[41:09]
partners in our business and
[41:10]
beekeeping do. Most of our
[41:10]
work is in the farmers.
[41:14]
Markets. These markets create
[41:16]
a platform for urban farmers
[41:19]
to sell their produce directly
[41:20]
to consumers. Fostering a
[41:21]
direct economic link between
[41:22]
the producer and the
[41:27]
community. This is what people
[41:29]
the citizens of Jacksonville
[41:33]
want they want local produce
[41:35]
local food to be able to
[41:35]
purchase and they want to buy
[41:39]
it from the producer. This
[41:41]
supports local agriculture and
[41:42]
encourages the growth of other
[41:44]
small businesses such as food
[41:45]
vendors, artisans and
[41:50]
craftspeople. Creating a
[41:52]
vibrant economy. And most of
[41:53]
the farmers markets, there are
[41:57]
not enough farmers, you know,
[41:58]
has it. The farm at the market
[42:00]
manager is always looking for
[42:02]
producers of agriculture. But
[42:06]
there are so limited. And one
[42:07]
of the things that I really
[42:11]
love about urban farming and
[42:13]
beekeeping is that it has a
[42:14]
relatively low entry level to
[42:17]
the agricultural journey. I
[42:18]
started our business with one
[42:21]
beehive. We now have 100.
[42:22]
People come to the farmers
[42:24]
market and they say I want to
[42:25]
visit your farm because what
[42:27]
do they think? Agriculture is
[42:30]
way out in the country. And I
[42:32]
say, well, my farm is in 25
[42:35]
people's yards throughout
[42:37]
Jacksonville, from the
[42:38]
beaches, Southside Deerwood
[42:40]
San marco Riverside, Murray
[42:43]
Hill, the Westside
[42:45]
Springfield. So I say maybe we
[42:46]
could spend that. You have to
[42:46]
ask the owner if you can come
[42:49]
to the yard. But this is what
[42:53]
the future of agriculture
[42:54]
should be, that there's farms
[42:58]
throughout the whole city and
[43:00]
especially now I just ask you
[43:02]
to pass free to Garden Act.
[43:04]
Thank you,
[43:04]
>> Thanks. Thanks James
[43:15]
Weston. Good evening. My name
[43:16]
is James Weston addresses on
[43:20]
file. If you've been following
[43:21]
the recent news about the
[43:23]
parasite outbreak causing
[43:24]
explosive diarrhea, you
[43:24]
probably been paying a little
[43:25]
extra attention to where your
[43:26]
food comes from. I know I
[43:30]
have. That's one of the
[43:30]
reasons I'm here tonight and
[43:32]
supported the free to Garden
[43:34]
Act. We should be making it
[43:35]
easier instead of harder to
[43:36]
grow fresh, local food for
[43:40]
Jacksonville. Over the years,
[43:41]
I've help people grow food in
[43:41]
our community. And I've seen
[43:44]
the demand firsthand.
[43:45]
Community gardens have waiting
[43:46]
list. Families want access to
[43:50]
fresh local food and neighbors
[43:52]
are ready to turn vacant lots
[43:52]
into places with the people
[43:55]
instead of sitting unused.
[43:56]
Growing food should mean
[43:59]
finding red tape for years.
[44:01]
This is practical neighborhood
[44:02]
friendly legislation that
[44:04]
expands access to fresh food
[44:04]
and helps build a very
[44:07]
resilient Jacksonville.
[44:08]
Respectfully ask for your
[44:09]
support for the Free to Garden
[44:10]
Act. Thank you for your time
[44:11]
and your service to the
[44:14]
community. Thank you, sir.
[44:25]
Next we have. But it's Anders.
[44:26]
>> Hello, my name is Betty
[44:28]
Saunders and I live in the
[44:29]
Linley Aggro Park neighborhood
[44:31]
in my addresses on file. I'm
[44:33]
here tonight to support and
[44:36]
encourage the consideration.
[44:36]
Passage and sponsorship of the
[44:39]
free to Garnet. Which would
[44:43]
allow. Community a market
[44:45]
gardens permissible by Wright
[44:47]
in Jacksonville. I want to add
[44:48]
to what Nathan earlier because
[44:49]
I just recently came back from
[44:52]
visiting family in Detroit and
[44:53]
they also have a free to
[44:56]
garden after equivalent and
[44:57]
they have a lot of community
[45:00]
gardens Perry's there.
[45:01]
Community gardens provide
[45:01]
fresh, healthy food to our
[45:02]
families and neighbors who
[45:05]
need it. Most. They encourage
[45:07]
physical activity, education,
[45:10]
they strengthen family bonds
[45:11]
and they enrich the social
[45:13]
fabric of our neighborhoods.
[45:15]
When I learned about the
[45:15]
challenges that Nathan and
[45:19]
overalls farm and other.
[45:23]
Similar things, similar farms
[45:24]
encountered. I was actually
[45:26]
shocked and disappointed that
[45:28]
organizations dedicated to
[45:29]
feeding our communities are
[45:30]
forced to navigate costly
[45:31]
administrative hurdles in
[45:35]
order to operate. The current
[45:35]
statute does protect the right
[45:36]
to grow food for personal
[45:37]
consumption, but does not
[45:41]
address. Gardens. Sale of
[45:45]
those things. The Free to
[45:46]
Garden Act addresses this gap
[45:49]
by creating a reasonable
[45:49]
framework for nonprofit
[45:51]
community gardens and local
[45:53]
market gardens and include
[45:55]
sensible standards for daytime
[45:56]
operating hours, noise,
[45:58]
lighting and safe composting
[45:59]
practices so that these urban
[46:00]
gardens coexist in the current
[46:05]
neighborhoods. In my view,
[46:06]
requiring our Ben Gardner to
[46:07]
obtain a planned unit
[46:09]
development at a cost of
[46:11]
$5,000 to apply unnecessary
[46:15]
and prohibitive barrier.
[46:17]
Currently overalls farm
[46:22]
provides fresh food to about
[46:22]
120 families through its
[46:24]
subscription Mention how many
[46:25]
more families could benefit if
[46:25]
these unnecessary barriers
[46:29]
were removed. Rather than
[46:31]
making it harder for community
[46:32]
gardens to succeed, we should
[46:34]
be creating opportunities for
[46:34]
them to grow and state served
[46:37]
even more residents. I believe
[46:39]
the proposal also aligns with
[46:40]
the goals of the city's
[46:42]
developing state of the food
[46:43]
plan, which seeks to
[46:44]
strengthen our local food
[46:47]
system and improve for food
[46:47]
security throughout
[46:51]
Jacksonville. These gardens
[46:52]
teach useful life skills and
[46:54]
could even encourage younger
[46:58]
children. 2. Go to
[46:59]
Environmental Services. Thank
[47:01]
you for your time. Thank you,
[47:01]
ma'am.
[47:02]
>> Next they have. Those
[47:14]
Salinas. Good Evening City
[47:15]
Council. My name is Sarah
[47:16]
Salinas with the Jack. Some of
[47:17]
the U.S. A chapter, my
[47:20]
addresses on file. I'm here
[47:21]
tonight to speak on the Free
[47:23]
to Garden Act, which aims to
[47:23]
make community gardens
[47:24]
permissible by-right in
[47:26]
Jacksonville. I have many
[47:27]
friends and family and my
[47:28]
communities that lack access
[47:30]
to affordable groceries, the
[47:31]
prevalence of food deserts and
[47:33]
the lack of accessible transit
[47:34]
creates hard barriers for the
[47:36]
disabled elderly and
[47:37]
overworked, the ability to
[47:39]
create a growing space in our
[47:39]
neighborhoods to feed
[47:41]
ourselves. And our neighbors
[47:41]
alleviates the stress and
[47:42]
financial burden of traveling
[47:44]
to a grocery for basic foods.
[47:49]
Doubles fruits and herbs. Our
[47:50]
organization spent 11 months
[47:51]
waiting on documentation that
[47:52]
allowed us to grow food in a
[47:53]
location. We already have
[47:55]
permission to grow from the
[47:56]
property manager. Now the
[47:58]
garden produces peppers,
[48:00]
tomatoes, beans, various herbs
[48:00]
and sunflowers for the
[48:01]
neighborhood. Residents even
[48:05]
enjoy. As the price of basic
[48:06]
groceries rises and financial
[48:07]
burdens MAY cause less able to
[48:10]
satisfy our own needs.
[48:10]
Community led Garden would
[48:11]
materially improve our
[48:12]
independence sustainability
[48:14]
and health. This is a
[48:16]
neighborhood friendly common
[48:18]
sense legislation that builds
[48:19]
upon regional state and local
[48:20]
policy foundation's. And I
[48:20]
urge you to consider the free
[48:23]
to Garden Act. As a step in
[48:24]
the right direction to improve
[48:25]
the lives of our communities
[48:29]
in the city. I would also like
[48:29]
to oppose any honoring of
[48:31]
Charlie Kirk as he was a
[48:32]
hateful bigot who weaponized
[48:33]
people's fear and ignorance to
[48:34]
normalize oppression of
[48:35]
minorities all over this
[48:38]
country. Thank Thank u next.
[48:42]
We have Laura Heath. It.
[48:42]
>> In the meantime, moment of
[48:43]
I the phone to come come down
[48:45]
to the front, please Duchy
[48:49]
Stevens ms s Charlie Smith.
[48:53]
Samantha Series, Dennis got
[48:54]
and Laura Murray permit you to
[48:54]
please come down to the front
[48:56]
and appreciate it. Speaking
[49:00]
that.
[49:01]
>> Hi, my name is Laura
[49:02]
McKeithen and my addresses on
[49:06]
file. I live in Springfield. I
[49:07]
support the Garden Act for so
[49:09]
many reasons. Most
[49:11]
importantly, it makes sense
[49:12]
for communities, especially in
[49:15]
times of economic challenge. I
[49:17]
am so lucky to live where a
[49:20]
neighbor Nathan. Tim's nearby
[49:24]
Gardens daily. I pick fresh
[49:26]
vegetables, spices, even
[49:27]
flowers on a daily basis
[49:30]
throughout the year. I do not
[49:32]
rely on driving to a grocery
[49:34]
store seriously. I almost
[49:38]
never go to the grocery store.
[49:40]
There is always something in
[49:41]
season in Jacksonville. We are
[49:43]
so lucky. With support of
[49:47]
officials like you tended
[49:48]
community gardens like ours
[49:49]
will become the model for
[49:50]
other cities seeking to better
[49:51]
the welfare of their season.
[49:54]
Their citizens. In fun,
[49:57]
healthy and engaging ways
[49:58]
regardless of the ups and
[50:01]
downs of the economy. I
[50:04]
appreciate your support for
[50:06]
this. And like last before me.
[50:10]
I am not in favor of Charlie
[50:11]
Kirk Act being associated with
[50:15]
the city. Thank you.
[50:22]
>> This but you Stevens.
[50:23]
>> Good evening Stevens, the
[50:28]
addresses on file. Hearing all
[50:29]
come in and talking about
[50:30]
these guns and stuff. But you
[50:31]
get to Munich contaminated
[50:33]
e-cigarette. We did used all
[50:35]
this led to still coming with
[50:38]
poison. Used to. I would
[50:40]
Garner to y'all get on public
[50:42]
works about getting on a jaw
[50:44]
digging in cleaning that these
[50:45]
ditches and then cut and they
[50:48]
were 3 months. It just seems
[50:51]
everything is we have. Voted
[50:54]
with the Democratic mayor.
[50:55]
We've seen too much from going
[50:57]
on with the city. By the way,
[50:59]
cheese not being moment in
[51:01]
could according to the federal
[51:05]
Law of Environmental
[51:05]
Protection. So if your
[51:06]
environment and grousing safe,
[51:08]
then a front loader in GOD.
[51:09]
Kind of give them contaminated
[51:11]
food poisoning. Because these
[51:13]
ditches a spanking up the
[51:15]
community. And I'm telling
[51:20]
you. And I have sent accounts
[51:22]
of, you know, and not
[51:23]
district. She got moved
[51:23]
contaminated ditches in
[51:26]
district. Tina thing network
[51:26]
is that we'll see that nasa
[51:27]
put the words in moment and
[51:31]
couldn't. They're not doing
[51:31]
their job. Maintaining the
[51:34]
city government grounds. And
[51:36]
when you say enough is enough,
[51:37]
we MAY have the bar PRESIDENT
[51:40]
Donald Trump. To get the
[51:42]
federal lawsuit for public
[51:43]
issues and federal government
[51:45]
bonds, but that grounds and
[51:45]
not safe right could you get
[51:49]
too many contaminated c d
[51:50]
right away. Ditches due out at
[51:52]
and we got to get the ball
[51:54]
rolling. I know they don't use
[51:54]
the prison inmates Nomo
[51:55]
because a lot of them used to
[51:59]
run off and try the skate some
[52:00]
years ago when John was at
[52:01]
sheriff. So they came bar to
[52:04]
prison inmates Nomo to help
[52:06]
public words. You know, the
[52:07]
mowing could indeed in coming
[52:08]
out to do just They did have
[52:09]
some that did try to skate
[52:14]
some years ago. And that's why
[52:15]
the king use know Monet was
[52:15]
coming from the people not to
[52:20]
do. So. I don't know what but
[52:24]
de just And I think we're
[52:25]
gonna have to get PRESIDENT
[52:27]
Donald Trump in Vol. Because
[52:32]
vote more Republican Democrat.
[52:33]
But it just seems like we're
[52:34]
not getting that. We don't see
[52:34]
the city maintain a grounds in
[52:39]
a moment and cooked. I think
[52:41]
we need a bad job. Pettis
[52:43]
back. We need to find a decent
[52:44]
meal that qualified for the
[52:45]
position, not a female. Thank
[52:51]
you.
[52:51]
>> Thank Next we is s Charlie
[53:00]
Smith.
[53:01]
>> Great Day City Council and
[53:03]
thank you for your service.
[53:04]
I'm is as strong Smith. My
[53:05]
address is on record and I'm
[53:10]
in District 13. I over also
[53:13]
support the for Garden Act.
[53:14]
The goal I'm here tonight to
[53:18]
support and encourage if got
[53:18]
which I which will take will
[53:22]
make the community and market
[53:24]
permissible by rights in
[53:27]
Jacksonville, 4, the
[53:27]
consideration of global supply
[53:30]
lines are disrupted. Food
[53:30]
prices are on the rise and
[53:34]
that the community. The local
[53:36]
community and market gardeners
[53:38]
who are well a position to
[53:41]
help insulate us from these
[53:42]
problems are starting from
[53:43]
growing groceries in
[53:48]
Jacksonville. To put a
[53:51]
personal spin on it. I am a
[53:54]
combat veteran that has served
[53:55]
myself. I if it wasn't for the
[53:57]
fellow guard partners that I
[53:59]
had in the past one half
[54:01]
years, I suffered a fire 2 and
[54:02]
half years ago. If I did not
[54:03]
have that support, I would not
[54:03]
be would be in front of you
[54:05]
today to ask for the
[54:08]
commission to push it forward
[54:08]
as fellow veterans that also
[54:11]
service in the community, a
[54:13]
plant club operator at our
[54:14]
around Academy. I help the
[54:15]
children learn how to grow
[54:18]
their own fruit at the
[54:19]
elementary students that are
[54:20]
there. I will take up too much
[54:21]
for you time. It is important
[54:22]
for us to be able to grow
[54:24]
food. If I'm not able to be at
[54:25]
the school, these young
[54:25]
people, they don't have the
[54:27]
access to learn. New skill
[54:29]
set. You don't have access to
[54:29]
know where their food comes
[54:30]
from. You know, have the
[54:32]
access to have extra food to
[54:36]
come into there, economic
[54:37]
functioning in their
[54:38]
household, which their parents
[54:39]
did not know they could do
[54:40]
until they were able to sit
[54:41]
with me at the school. So if
[54:47]
you could please do your Kylie
[54:47]
and respectfully, I consider
[54:49]
Co sponsoring the free to
[54:53]
garnet so that we and also
[54:54]
passed the whole iq Patient id
[54:55]
great. They're very grateful.
[54:55]
Thank you for your service.
[54:58]
Have a great day.
[55:00]
>> Thank you, Thank you for
[55:01]
your service. Next we have
[55:08]
Samantha Series.
[55:09]
>> Samantha Series address on
[55:10]
file. I'm here to talk to you
[55:12]
today about over development.
[55:14]
I understand that Jacksonville
[55:15]
is a growing city. I just
[55:15]
think that we could do a
[55:19]
little bit more responsible
[55:21]
development where take
[55:21]
abandoned buildings and the
[55:23]
lot and use those as places
[55:25]
that could you have mixed use
[55:26]
housing you know, maybe the
[55:27]
community gardens can be part
[55:29]
of it, too.
[55:30]
>> It would be a great time to
[55:31]
have some walkable areas.
[55:32]
Doesn't have to be all of
[55:33]
Jacksonville. Of course. But I
[55:37]
think it's important that we
[55:39]
start honing in on our
[55:39]
developers to, you know, maybe
[55:42]
encourage them to go towards
[55:43]
places that are already torn
[55:46]
down already. Dilapidated, you
[55:47]
know, and because I know the
[55:49]
development is continuing. It
[55:51]
obviously we cannot stop
[55:53]
growing. We need to keep
[55:55]
growing. I think it's
[55:56]
important that maybe Jay
[55:57]
starts looking into Solomons
[55:57]
Ation because we're running
[56:01]
out of water. Yes, our prefer
[56:03]
is being over, drained
[56:04]
constantly because of us in
[56:06]
Florida and 90% of
[56:07]
Jacksonville gets their water
[56:10]
from the Florida aquifer.
[56:11]
That's right. And because we
[56:12]
have over Del developed so
[56:13]
much, we get a lot of runoff.
[56:15]
That runoff goes into our
[56:17]
water into our streams into
[56:20]
our rivers and it does not get
[56:21]
to be so 3rd through the
[56:23]
ground because we have
[56:24]
developed it. So now we have
[56:25]
contaminated water. That's
[56:28]
great. So I think maybe
[56:28]
Jamie's looking sell it as a
[56:30]
shunt because that's where
[56:30]
we're headed. I also think
[56:35]
that jta should.
[56:36]
>> Pressure some companies to
[56:38]
take the very hot parking lots
[56:40]
that are dead Heat zone
[56:41]
really.
[56:43]
>> And make them partially
[56:46]
covered with solar panels that
[56:48]
would help with the community
[56:50]
cost of energy and south
[56:52]
continually making our prices
[56:54]
go up. I do understand they
[56:55]
have some projects to cover
[56:56]
with the gas plant that they
[56:56]
need to build and everything
[56:58]
like that. But maybe we could
[57:00]
start encouraging these larger
[57:02]
come. Need to have these huge
[57:06]
empty lots that are just dead
[57:07]
space, their heat. So as you
[57:08]
know, do you like getting
[57:08]
burned when you go into your
[57:10]
car? Don't really enjoy that.
[57:10]
So it doesn't have to be the
[57:12]
whole parking area, you know,
[57:14]
just a partial one. Then it's
[57:16]
back and save our community
[57:18]
money. You know, it's all
[57:19]
about saving money. And, you
[57:21]
know, this property tax might
[57:22]
be coming up where we lose a
[57:24]
property taxes. When you start
[57:25]
looking into other ways that
[57:26]
we can generate money, Havre
[57:27]
energy cheaper for our
[57:29]
communities and just, you
[57:31]
know, as always try to stop
[57:32]
that Overdevelopment. Thank
[57:34]
you.
[57:35]
>> Thank u next. And he's got
[57:49]
these.
[57:50]
>> Good evening. My name is
[57:51]
Denise Scott. My addresses on
[57:55]
file. We hope you all enjoy
[57:56]
time off and we hope you back
[57:57]
and let take care of business
[58:01]
for the people. But this being
[58:01]
the first meeting and I know
[58:04]
council PRESIDENT The Holland,
[58:06]
how come asking that you
[58:07]
please restore public comments
[58:10]
back to 3 minutes. We have
[58:11]
council meetings twice a month
[58:13]
is this time your constituents
[58:15]
to have public access to this
[58:16]
body. When you give you
[58:18]
instructions before comments
[58:19]
used always say that this is
[58:21]
the time to hear from the
[58:23]
public. We want you to hear
[58:23]
from us and we want 3 minutes
[58:26]
back. I don't know why. And I
[58:29]
don't know why it stopped when
[58:29]
it stopped, but we will not be
[58:33]
minutes back. Please, as for
[58:34]
this comment on council, as
[58:35]
you begin to have discussions,
[58:36]
consent of the mayor's
[58:39]
proposed budget. I'm asking
[58:40]
that this council, please try
[58:41]
think about the citizens of
[58:42]
this county and not just
[58:44]
special special interest
[58:47]
groups. I'm not Joe your own
[58:49]
selves since this mayor has
[58:50]
been in office. The majority
[58:52]
of this male dominated
[58:53]
Republican Council has fought
[58:56]
her on every time. Not many
[58:57]
times that you tried to come
[58:59]
together for the sake of the
[59:02]
people. Asking that you please
[59:04]
stop being so selfish, so
[59:05]
petty and put the people's
[59:08]
needs first for a change. When
[59:09]
you start discussing the
[59:09]
budget, please remember with
[59:12]
the bulk of this money goes,
[59:13]
we all understand that we need
[59:15]
to have public safety as a
[59:18]
priority. But at what cost? I
[59:19]
know that this is not a
[59:19]
popular opinion, but it needs
[59:22]
to be said, I'm grateful for
[59:23]
the good offices that Beaumont
[59:27]
City City streets. But until
[59:27]
this council weighs in our
[59:32]
share offices teach them how
[59:33]
to have de-escalation training
[59:37]
instead of training and
[59:38]
Defense forces. This always
[59:39]
going to have to settle with
[59:43]
victims with their lawsuits.
[59:45]
Maybe just maybe if you let
[59:47]
the sheriff know that any
[59:47]
lawsuits, though, the come
[59:50]
from his budget their
[59:52]
pensions. And I'm not sure
[59:53]
what's going on with this one
[59:56]
on the on the Charlie Kirk. No
[59:57]
disrespect to anyone that
[59:58]
believes the mess. He said.
[59:59]
But I thought we were
[1:00:03]
finishing on here in his name.
[1:00:03]
The majority of the folks in
[1:00:04]
that went on in and what this
[1:00:05]
so much hate and
[1:00:07]
misinformation. Jacksonville
[1:00:07]
doesn't need to on another
[1:00:12]
races. And what's the premise?
[1:00:13]
>> Thanks to we have Larry
[1:00:14]
Demery Herman. In the
[1:00:15]
meantime, I would like to
[1:00:16]
fight the following to come
[1:00:18]
forward and I forgive me on
[1:00:20]
this. I believe it's and that.
[1:00:25]
>> Arman. Jennifer Joyner.
[1:00:27]
Ronnie Burris. Addison
[1:00:32]
Liberty, Patrick. And direct
[1:00:33]
gregan on boy, I'm sorry,
[1:00:34]
Dragon boy. Go ahead. Miss
[1:00:38]
him.
[1:00:41]
>> Good evening, PRESIDENT.
[1:00:43]
Honorable councilmembers. My
[1:00:44]
name is learn. Every Herman,
[1:00:44]
I'm English teacher in the
[1:00:46]
District. My addresses on
[1:00:48]
file. I'm here today to speak
[1:00:49]
in support of the free
[1:00:51]
kayaking act I would like to
[1:00:53]
ask you to date to think of
[1:00:55]
this act in terms of
[1:00:57]
communities in terms of
[1:00:58]
building community in terms of
[1:00:59]
communities putting prevention
[1:01:02]
to work. In particular,
[1:01:03]
putting prevention to work in
[1:01:05]
the form of food security.
[1:01:08]
Which is more urgent than ever
[1:01:12]
from 2010 to 2 1012, I had the
[1:01:13]
opportunity to observe the
[1:01:14]
community's putting prevention
[1:01:15]
to work rent in action on the
[1:01:17]
island of Maui. Hawaii. As a
[1:01:20]
result of that grant over 32
[1:01:21]
gardens were planted across
[1:01:22]
the island which not only
[1:01:25]
resulted in food security,
[1:01:27]
obesity dropped by 30% tobacco
[1:01:31]
usage by 40%. The availability
[1:01:32]
of healthy food for the
[1:01:33]
community increase by almost
[1:01:38]
70%. These are big numbers I
[1:01:39]
believe that this type of
[1:01:41]
positive change can happen
[1:01:41]
here. That putting prevention
[1:01:45]
to work. To building community
[1:01:46]
with the passage of the home
[1:01:46]
occupation Bill. Tonight in
[1:01:49]
the sponsorship for Garden Act
[1:01:50]
in the upcoming Sessions.
[1:01:51]
Thank you for your time. Thank
[1:01:56]
you. And please help me with
[1:02:03]
your last name.
[1:02:03]
>> So my name and address on
[1:02:05]
file and Annette Man on. Thank
[1:02:09]
you. All right. I'm a local
[1:02:11]
community organizer and I'm a
[1:02:13]
teacher and I support the Free
[1:02:13]
to Garden Act which makes
[1:02:14]
community a market gardens
[1:02:17]
permissible by right? A
[1:02:18]
teacher at Jean Ribault High
[1:02:21]
and I've seen firsthand the
[1:02:21]
benefit that gardening has on
[1:02:22]
our news. I was teaching one
[1:02:23]
day and there's something
[1:02:24]
going on in the back of my
[1:02:26]
class trying to teach. Boy,
[1:02:26]
one student raises his hand
[1:02:27]
wanting water, tears streaming
[1:02:31]
down his face. They're all
[1:02:32]
laughing. Has been anointed
[1:02:33]
for some time Rose what they
[1:02:34]
had. A group of teenage boys
[1:02:35]
had a hot pepper. They had
[1:02:37]
grown from the garden and I
[1:02:38]
went back there and I started
[1:02:40]
talking to them and the way
[1:02:41]
they lit up when they tell me
[1:02:43]
about how they grown it and
[1:02:44]
they were showing it to me,
[1:02:45]
like with so much pride. And,
[1:02:46]
you know, these boys are
[1:02:47]
usually life, you know, always
[1:02:49]
cause me trouble and whatnot.
[1:02:52]
But it's not so much more than
[1:02:54]
the food, especially for our
[1:02:55]
vulnerable youth in
[1:02:58]
Jacksonville. And I want for
[1:02:59]
all of the use of Jacksonville
[1:03:00]
to be able to experience that
[1:03:03]
joy. Only that, if you bring
[1:03:04]
that joy, you bring votes
[1:03:06]
because me and people with my
[1:03:08]
mindset, remember things like
[1:03:09]
this and we tend to be the
[1:03:10]
types of people that care and
[1:03:11]
off to vote and encourage
[1:03:12]
others to vote or even run for
[1:03:14]
office or sounds out in the
[1:03:16]
community. A lot. And I
[1:03:18]
promise this issue is of great
[1:03:20]
concern between groups who
[1:03:21]
otherwise MAY have nothing
[1:03:22]
else in common as I'm sure,
[1:03:25]
you know, its name. I'm not
[1:03:26]
gonna take up too much of your
[1:03:28]
time. As you guys heard this a
[1:03:29]
million times, but just
[1:03:30]
observe the walks of life that
[1:03:32]
people are coming from and why
[1:03:34]
they support this bill. It's a
[1:03:39]
it's. Pretty popular. All
[1:03:41]
right. So we ask you to
[1:03:42]
occupation Bill tonight and in
[1:03:43]
the coming days come in to
[1:03:44]
sponsor the for Garden next
[1:03:44]
week. A move forward for
[1:03:45]
filing an introduction. Thank
[1:03:47]
you so much.
[1:03:53]
>> Thank u Jennifer Joyner.
[1:03:56]
>> Council, my name is
[1:03:57]
Jennifer Joyner. I live in San
[1:03:58]
Suu seat. My addresses on file
[1:03:59]
and a member of the southeast.
[1:04:02]
Cpac. With the next fiscal
[1:04:04]
year's budget could in the
[1:04:05]
works on here tonight to speak
[1:04:07]
on the topic of animal welfare
[1:04:08]
in Jacksonville and
[1:04:08]
specifically regarding funds
[1:04:10]
to cover spay and neuter
[1:04:11]
surgeries we pray to GOD
[1:04:12]
before each of our city
[1:04:14]
council meetings. We are here
[1:04:16]
to be good stewards of GOD's
[1:04:17]
creatures. And while city has
[1:04:18]
tape taken steps in the right
[1:04:19]
direction, we still have a
[1:04:21]
long way to go. Animal welfare
[1:04:23]
is hot on Floridians radar
[1:04:24]
right now. Governor DeSantis
[1:04:25]
has signed into effect several
[1:04:26]
notable animal welfare laws
[1:04:29]
over the last couple of years.
[1:04:30]
More people are acknowledging
[1:04:31]
that we need to take better
[1:04:32]
care of all creatures, big and
[1:04:33]
small. If we want to be a
[1:04:35]
better society overall, one
[1:04:36]
major way we can impact this
[1:04:37]
is through trap neuter return
[1:04:40]
programs also known as t a r
[1:04:41]
Jacksonville has an extensive
[1:04:42]
population of community cats
[1:04:43]
without human intervention.
[1:04:45]
Their fate is not always a
[1:04:46]
good one. Tnr is the humane
[1:04:47]
answer for control the
[1:04:48]
population while helping the
[1:04:50]
community cats that are
[1:04:52]
already here control in this
[1:04:52]
population frees up resources
[1:04:53]
for already overwhelmed
[1:04:54]
shelters and rescues in our
[1:04:55]
city so they can help more
[1:04:57]
dogs and cats in need. The
[1:04:59]
city of Jacksonville has not
[1:04:59]
significantly increased
[1:05:00]
funding for spay neuter
[1:05:01]
programs like Duval Catholics
[1:05:03]
and many years despite rising
[1:05:04]
demand and increasing costs
[1:05:06]
associated with providing
[1:05:08]
these services as a result,
[1:05:08]
volunteer trappers must now
[1:05:09]
pay a fee for teen our
[1:05:11]
procedures. This will greatly
[1:05:11]
reduce the number of cats
[1:05:13]
brought in to be fixed. The
[1:05:14]
chief of the cps has stated
[1:05:15]
that our city shelters working
[1:05:17]
hard to achieve no kill status
[1:05:19]
again. So to that end, we need
[1:05:21]
more funding for spay neuter
[1:05:22]
surgeries Jennifer Barker, the
[1:05:24]
ceo of every pet, a reasonable
[1:05:25]
request for additional trap.
[1:05:25]
Neuter return funding would be
[1:05:29]
in the range of a 10250,000.
[1:05:32]
Tnr programs such as Duval
[1:05:32]
Catholics continue to
[1:05:33]
demonstrate tremendous
[1:05:34]
community need with available
[1:05:35]
funding, often being
[1:05:36]
exhausted. Quickly and
[1:05:37]
increased investment from the
[1:05:38]
city would allow more cats to
[1:05:40]
be sterilized. Reduced burden
[1:05:41]
on shelter intake, improve
[1:05:42]
community, cat health and
[1:05:43]
quality of life and help
[1:05:44]
prevent the growth of
[1:05:46]
community cat populations.
[1:05:47]
Additional funding would
[1:05:48]
represent a proactive
[1:05:50]
cost-effective investment and
[1:05:50]
animal welfare. Thank you for
[1:05:53]
your consideration.
[1:05:53]
>> Thank u next. Yet running
[1:06:01]
births. Hello. My name is
[1:06:02]
Ronnie Burris. And my
[1:06:06]
addresses on file. We all have
[1:06:09]
heard me talk a lot about
[1:06:10]
negotiations with Well, I'm
[1:06:11]
here to tell you tonight we
[1:06:12]
settled the contract.
[1:06:14]
>> And
[1:06:20]
>> my bargaining unit past the
[1:06:22]
240 to 14. So they're very
[1:06:24]
happy with the contract that
[1:06:25]
we were able to negotiate
[1:06:30]
impasse. Just so, you know, we
[1:06:33]
were the first union in over
[1:06:35]
20 years to go to impasse with
[1:06:35]
So hopefully we're going to
[1:06:36]
get them to 2026. And that's
[1:06:40]
what I told him but I just
[1:06:43]
want everybody to know that we
[1:06:44]
did settle the contract. Our
[1:06:48]
members are happy and I look
[1:06:50]
forward forward. Coming to you
[1:06:54]
and you passing it. Thank you,
[1:06:57]
sir. Next weekend as the
[1:07:12]
Liberty Patrick.
[1:07:13]
>> Good evening. My name is
[1:07:14]
out of some liberty, Patrick.
[1:07:19]
My address is on file. I am a
[1:07:20]
Jacksonville resident,
[1:07:22]
taxpayer and party to case
[1:07:24]
number 16, Dash 2026. Dash ca
[1:07:28]
Dash 0, 0, 4, 1, 5, 5, in the
[1:07:28]
4th judicial circuit. She's
[1:07:29]
passing around some
[1:07:32]
information there. I am
[1:07:34]
standing here tonight to talk
[1:07:36]
about ethics and basic due
[1:07:36]
diligence because apparently
[1:07:39]
someone around here needs to.
[1:07:41]
Back in 2025. 10 sitting
[1:07:43]
members of this council
[1:07:47]
Carrico Howland tomorrow
[1:07:49]
Lannan Carlucci Arias, White
[1:07:51]
Salem Miller and Freeman along
[1:07:55]
with Sheriff tk Waters rush
[1:07:56]
out to throw their official
[1:07:57]
backing behind a single
[1:07:58]
candidate for city council at
[1:08:03]
large group. One. She was
[1:08:03]
endorsed before basic legal
[1:08:05]
questions were never answered.
[1:08:08]
So let's clear this up now. In
[1:08:10]
this case, the one ending in
[1:08:12]
4, 1, 5, 5, No judge has
[1:08:13]
actually heard the evidence on
[1:08:15]
these residency claims. No
[1:08:17]
judge has allowed Discovery
[1:08:19]
and no one has put Ms Wesley
[1:08:22]
under oath for a deposition.
[1:08:23]
Her residency qualification
[1:08:24]
has never been proven in a
[1:08:26]
court of law. Not once. In
[1:08:29]
fact, as of second lawsuit
[1:08:31]
from an independent Duval
[1:08:32]
County elector has officially
[1:08:34]
been filed, challenging her
[1:08:36]
residency from a completely
[1:08:38]
separate source. 10 of you
[1:08:40]
endorsed her so early in 2025.
[1:08:44]
Without checking the facts.
[1:08:46]
Meanwhile and 2026 state level
[1:08:47]
criminal investigations and
[1:08:48]
subpoenas hover over our city
[1:08:49]
council like a dark cloud. The
[1:08:51]
irony is on most impressive.
[1:08:56]
So what was the rush? Did 10
[1:08:57]
council members and the
[1:08:59]
sheriff simply failed to do
[1:09:00]
basic research or was
[1:09:01]
political expediency more
[1:09:02]
important than just
[1:09:05]
transparency. I believe you
[1:09:06]
hope the public would not pay
[1:09:09]
attention to the fine print.
[1:09:10]
But news flash Jacksonville
[1:09:11]
residents do pay attention. We
[1:09:12]
read the fine print. So my
[1:09:15]
question to you. With 2 active
[1:09:17]
lawsuits now challenging her
[1:09:19]
eligibility. Does anyone have
[1:09:20]
the backbone to retract or
[1:09:24]
pause their endorsement until
[1:09:25]
Discovery takes place. And the
[1:09:27]
truth comes out under oath or
[1:09:28]
are you going to pretend these
[1:09:30]
legal questions do not exist?
[1:09:31]
The public record is watching.
[1:09:33]
Thank you.
[1:09:36]
>> Next we have drag in
[1:09:37]
Beloit. Meantime, on invite up
[1:09:40]
to the front, please. Jamal
[1:09:43]
Davis, Kiyana Blalock Nancy
[1:09:46]
Marie settle Xavier Green
[1:09:54]
Morejon onions.
[1:09:57]
>> Hi, my name is driving
[1:09:57]
blind. My addresses on file.
[1:09:58]
Hello again, everyone. Let's
[1:10:01]
all be really, really excited
[1:10:01]
for Lionel getting everything
[1:10:02]
they wanted because it was
[1:10:03]
crazy. Having them come up and
[1:10:04]
go, hey. Please help us just
[1:10:07]
over and over. It's always
[1:10:09]
nice to see a positive result.
[1:10:11]
I'm also here to speak on the
[1:10:13]
Garden Sounds awesome. I like
[1:10:14]
that. I have a little garden
[1:10:15]
that I keep in coats because I
[1:10:17]
can't put in the ground. So
[1:10:18]
keeping totes, I can move it
[1:10:19]
back and forth. Growing
[1:10:24]
peppers now. I also have
[1:10:25]
another thing I'd like to say.
[1:10:27]
I actually have a cat trap
[1:10:30]
actively in my car to start
[1:10:31]
doing the tnr program. And I'm
[1:10:32]
really not looking forward to
[1:10:32]
those fees. So hey.
[1:10:33]
>> If you can waive, those be
[1:10:38]
awesome. What I'm actually
[1:10:39]
here for is talk once again.
[1:10:41]
You're going to be so shocked
[1:10:44]
about flock cameras. There are
[1:10:45]
8 flock cameras around my
[1:10:46]
neighborhood. I literally
[1:10:47]
can't leave without a private
[1:10:49]
corporation spying on me. We
[1:10:51]
are the free state of Florida
[1:10:52]
left Ryan. Maybe look into
[1:10:56]
that. Also, none of them have
[1:10:58]
any like breakaway plates at
[1:10:59]
the bottom. So if a car hits
[1:11:00]
them, they're not going
[1:11:01]
anywhere. And that person is
[1:11:02]
going to get really hurt, who
[1:11:06]
installed these? The one right
[1:11:07]
in front of my house on
[1:11:10]
Merrill Road. That one.
[1:11:10]
>> Is.
[1:11:11]
>> Just sitting right next to
[1:11:14]
Merrill Road, which don't know
[1:11:14]
if you know how fast people
[1:11:15]
going that road. That's pretty
[1:11:18]
quick. Somebody hits that
[1:11:19]
without a breakaway plate,
[1:11:22]
they're going to die. And then
[1:11:23]
their family is going to sue,
[1:11:29]
not flock. But the city. I'm
[1:11:29]
letting you know that this is
[1:11:33]
going to be an issue in the
[1:11:33]
future. As soon as somebody
[1:11:36]
hits one of them. And we all
[1:11:37]
live in Jacksonville. We know
[1:11:38]
what drivers are like here.
[1:11:41]
Someone's gonna hit one. So
[1:11:42]
let's try and take some steps
[1:11:44]
to try and maybe if they're
[1:11:45]
going to be there, put a
[1:11:47]
breakway played there. Also,
[1:11:48]
if they're going to be there
[1:11:49]
in form, the people that are
[1:11:51]
being actively surveilled
[1:11:52]
because it is active
[1:11:53]
surveillance. I really don't
[1:11:55]
like living under surveillance
[1:11:56]
state. This is Jacksonville.
[1:11:59]
Jacksonville's, an awesome
[1:12:00]
city. I don't want somebody
[1:12:01]
looking over my shoulder when
[1:12:03]
I leave my house and right now
[1:12:05]
they do a private corporation
[1:12:06]
currently knows exactly where
[1:12:08]
I am. I don't like that. I
[1:12:09]
don't want that to be the kind
[1:12:11]
of city I live in. And none of
[1:12:15]
my either. I can't get him out
[1:12:17]
because they're all working.
[1:12:18]
But everybody's pretty upset
[1:12:19]
and they're going to vote that
[1:12:20]
upset later. So please take
[1:12:21]
action on Flock cameras. Thank
[1:12:23]
you very much
[1:12:32]
>> Next, we have 2 Davis.
[1:12:33]
Getting my name is Jamal Davis
[1:12:37]
and Miles is on file. Am here
[1:12:40]
tonight.
[1:12:40]
>> Also
[1:12:41]
>> to say that I am in favor
[1:12:47]
of the free to Martin as well.
[1:12:48]
I also think that for garden
[1:12:52]
at would be a great way for us
[1:12:53]
to institute another way to
[1:12:54]
have some sort of mental
[1:12:55]
health practices within our
[1:13:02]
city. And instead putting more
[1:13:04]
into the already inflated
[1:13:05]
budget that the Jacksonville
[1:13:08]
Sheriff's Office currently
[1:13:09]
gets here. And our wonderful
[1:13:16]
city and county. Here standing
[1:13:16]
as the North Florida, early
[1:13:19]
regional organizer for Black
[1:13:20]
voters matter and also
[1:13:20]
standing solidarity with the
[1:13:22]
Jacksonville Community Action
[1:13:25]
Committee on behalf of Black
[1:13:26]
voters matter and honor of
[1:13:30]
being able to. Help institute
[1:13:33]
a mental health response team
[1:13:35]
that will answer a lot of our
[1:13:37]
mental health cases instead of
[1:13:38]
having police department
[1:13:39]
having to constantly
[1:13:44]
consistently go out, said
[1:13:46]
particular cases as And I
[1:13:48]
would like for many of our
[1:13:51]
city council members also sit
[1:13:52]
with individuals within the
[1:13:54]
community and help build out a
[1:13:55]
budget that will benefit the
[1:14:00]
people as that of court for 8
[1:14:03]
interests and our developer or
[1:14:05]
friends. And we'll be in loved
[1:14:06]
ones. And so that is my time
[1:14:08]
that I will yield the Thank
[1:14:09]
you so much for listening to
[1:14:11]
me. I have a great evening.
[1:14:12]
>> Thank you, sir. Next we
[1:14:19]
have counted Blaylock. Can a
[1:14:22]
Blaylock address on file.
[1:14:24]
>> I'm here with the
[1:14:25]
Jacksonville Community Action
[1:14:26]
Committee to demand that
[1:14:27]
Jacksonville citizens have a
[1:14:31]
say and the city's budget. We
[1:14:32]
have seen that the portion of
[1:14:34]
the budget that goes to public
[1:14:35]
safety has increased over the
[1:14:36]
years. And much of that is
[1:14:38]
going to the Jacksonville
[1:14:40]
Sheriff's Office. And yes,
[1:14:44]
while public safety is a
[1:14:44]
priority, giving him the
[1:14:45]
increasing the budget
[1:14:48]
allocations that go to jso
[1:14:50]
seems like a contradiction
[1:14:51]
only because they have proven
[1:14:52]
time and time again that they
[1:14:53]
do not know how to
[1:14:56]
de-escalate, especially when
[1:14:57]
there are cases of mental
[1:14:59]
health crisis is happening
[1:15:02]
with Brian Gillis, our Sean
[1:15:04]
Martin Lee, a baker. They have
[1:15:05]
only escalated the situations
[1:15:07]
and unfortunately a lot of
[1:15:08]
them leads to Jax. Will
[1:15:11]
citizens being killed? Many of
[1:15:12]
the people here tonight have
[1:15:13]
told you exactly what they
[1:15:15]
want to be in this budget
[1:15:17]
where the fun should be going,
[1:15:19]
whether that's a community
[1:15:22]
garden, whether that is the
[1:15:23]
stopping of certain
[1:15:23]
developments in that we can
[1:15:25]
have a more walkable city. In
[1:15:30]
Jacksonville, weather that be
[1:15:30]
when Winn-Dixie came to for
[1:15:34]
money to beast saying in
[1:15:37]
Jacksonville and then the the
[1:15:39]
reasoning was that there are
[1:15:39]
food, deserts of food and
[1:15:40]
security. When you're a
[1:15:41]
council member here has said,
[1:15:43]
well, there is a food desert
[1:15:45]
funder at however, it just has
[1:15:49]
gone ignored by most of you.
[1:15:50]
So again, people are telling
[1:15:51]
you exactly what they want in
[1:15:53]
this budget. However, time and
[1:15:53]
time again, you have proven
[1:15:54]
that you it is falls on deaf
[1:15:59]
ears. If there's studies have
[1:16:01]
shown that over-policing just
[1:16:02]
leads to over policing, it is
[1:16:04]
not lead to a safer city, but
[1:16:05]
things that do lead to a safer
[1:16:07]
city are the things that your
[1:16:09]
constituents here have told
[1:16:09]
you to your Barry face time
[1:16:11]
and time again over the many
[1:16:12]
city council meetings. I have
[1:16:18]
been over the years this the
[1:16:19]
public, the People's Budget,
[1:16:21]
that j cac is proposing
[1:16:24]
provides a clear stormy of
[1:16:27]
alternative rather than the
[1:16:29]
bloated jso, a budget that we
[1:16:30]
have gone gotten every single
[1:16:34]
time. And thank you so much.
[1:16:35]
>> Thank And next we have Dan
[1:16:46]
see Murray so
[1:16:47]
>> Nancy Mind settle addresses
[1:16:48]
on file today. I'm here to
[1:16:50]
speak about law order rules
[1:16:53]
and regulation. There's a lot
[1:16:54]
of them when it comes to
[1:16:56]
running a large city like
[1:16:58]
Jacksonville and I personally
[1:16:59]
can shape against many of them
[1:17:03]
at times. But I also realize
[1:17:05]
that that's what makes our
[1:17:06]
civilization work. It makes
[1:17:07]
government work. It builds
[1:17:09]
trust between citizens and
[1:17:09]
elected for officials with the
[1:17:12]
rules are followed. It brings
[1:17:14]
order to what otherwise could
[1:17:17]
be chaos when there is
[1:17:18]
corruption, green for wealth
[1:17:21]
and power. Nepotism and
[1:17:22]
dishonesty. A city or state is
[1:17:26]
bound to fail. There's lots of
[1:17:27]
Sainz with showers said humans
[1:17:28]
have a tendency toward
[1:17:30]
corruption and dishonesty such
[1:17:32]
as rules are made to be
[1:17:33]
broken. Let's ask forgiveness
[1:17:36]
rather than permission. It was
[1:17:37]
just some of the white lion.
[1:17:39]
Everyone does it. There's so
[1:17:40]
many escape hatches from truth
[1:17:42]
telling an honest thing, but
[1:17:44]
we must attempt to shed light
[1:17:44]
where we see that the bending
[1:17:46]
of truth is becoming
[1:17:47]
detrimental. We must talk
[1:17:49]
about hypocrisy. Sometime. We
[1:17:52]
give each other grace sometime
[1:17:56]
we give a pass a waiver. When
[1:17:57]
we make mistakes. And when
[1:17:59]
running large organizations
[1:18:01]
like Jacksonville, I can see
[1:18:03]
some time the need for a
[1:18:04]
waiver from following the
[1:18:06]
rules, the codes, the
[1:18:08]
ordinances. But when becomes a
[1:18:09]
common practice, I think we
[1:18:09]
all need to take a look at
[1:18:13]
what is happening. I'm looking
[1:18:18]
at specifically at the waivers
[1:18:19]
from 1, 1, 8, 0, 7, which
[1:18:20]
requires a competitive bid
[1:18:23]
before grants can be made. I
[1:18:24]
understand it on a certain
[1:18:26]
level. It speeds up the
[1:18:28]
process of getting money to
[1:18:29]
organizations that are large
[1:18:29]
trusted, been doing business
[1:18:32]
with the city for decades,
[1:18:32]
such as United Way of
[1:18:35]
northeast Florida shows
[1:18:37]
backers center and however, in
[1:18:39]
this week's agenda, there were
[1:18:41]
27 instances of a request for
[1:18:43]
a waiver granted. Many of them
[1:18:44]
are coming from the budget for
[1:18:46]
next year. Some of them made
[1:18:48]
sense. Some of them died.
[1:18:49]
Didn't. However, there were at
[1:18:53]
least 5 other waivers.
[1:18:54]
Ordinances attempting to give
[1:18:54]
money to nonprofits without a
[1:18:59]
competitive bed. I'm gonna go
[1:19:02]
to that one 5, 7, 5, a request
[1:19:04]
for $94,000 to a great
[1:19:07]
organization operation for new
[1:19:08]
uniforms were the for sure.
[1:19:09]
But when the PRESIDENT's fire
[1:19:11]
watch has 2 of those members
[1:19:12]
sitting on the board, it looks
[1:19:13]
a little bit like nepotism. So
[1:19:15]
let's be careful of that.
[1:19:15]
>> Thank u next. We have
[1:19:26]
Xavier Green. Xavier Green
[1:19:29]
address on file. Good evening
[1:19:30]
City Council. My name is
[1:19:31]
Xavier Green and I'm a
[1:19:32]
resident of Jacksonville has
[1:19:35]
have a question. What message
[1:19:36]
does it send to your
[1:19:38]
constituents that are
[1:19:39]
pre-trial, detention facility
[1:19:40]
has quietly become the largest
[1:19:40]
mental health receiving
[1:19:43]
facility in Duval County. What
[1:19:45]
message does it send in your
[1:19:46]
own 2024? Special committee
[1:19:47]
report reveals a staggering
[1:19:48]
reality that more than 31% of
[1:19:51]
the jail population currently
[1:19:51]
qualifies for Dcip
[1:19:53]
diversionary mental health
[1:19:55]
programs. Yes, it and over.
[1:19:56]
Did also complain about how
[1:19:59]
overpopulated the jail is?
[1:19:59]
Sounds like an easy solution
[1:20:00]
to this billion-dollar issue.
[1:20:03]
Am I right? You all don't
[1:20:04]
believe you all don't even
[1:20:04]
believe that they belong in
[1:20:08]
there. So act on it. That same
[1:20:09]
report proved that individuals
[1:20:10]
with mental illness estate in
[1:20:10]
the times longer and cost 7
[1:20:13]
times as much draining
[1:20:14]
millions from taxpayers to the
[1:20:17]
jail and uf Health at the same
[1:20:19]
time, jso has killed over 5
[1:20:22]
resident in mental crisis in
[1:20:23]
2025 alone contributing to
[1:20:23]
local police killing rate.
[1:20:25]
That is more than twice the
[1:20:27]
national average while use of
[1:20:28]
force incidents and complaints
[1:20:29]
continue to rise and go
[1:20:31]
unresolved, according to jso
[1:20:33]
only open data and community
[1:20:35]
reports. We cannot afford to
[1:20:37]
keep funding a broken cycle of
[1:20:38]
incarceration and lethal
[1:20:39]
police saying the focus must
[1:20:41]
shift immediately to funding a
[1:20:42]
civilian Mental health
[1:20:45]
emergency response program.
[1:20:47]
We're pitching a twelve-month
[1:20:49]
pilot deployed deploying
[1:20:50]
Khalid clinician first
[1:20:52]
responder teams to handle
[1:20:52]
nonviolent calls license lsf
[1:20:54]
mental health providers like h
[1:20:58]
r c the cover spotter program
[1:21:00]
jso. If there is a potential
[1:21:01]
threat of danger and a police
[1:21:01]
response, if there's a direct
[1:21:04]
threat of extreme violence,
[1:21:05]
diverting people who need it
[1:21:06]
to community care like the
[1:21:07]
Sulzbacher Center or image rc
[1:21:10]
before they even reach a cell.
[1:21:11]
And guess what? It wouldn't
[1:21:12]
cost the city much at all.
[1:21:14]
We've done the research. The
[1:21:14]
state has coffers specifically
[1:21:16]
for mobile response. Teams are
[1:21:17]
MR. T's so the time is now.
[1:21:19]
Thank you. And also. Charlie
[1:21:24]
Kirk, all. Thank you, sir.
[1:21:27]
Next he had Marianna needs.
[1:21:28]
Meantime, on invite Gabriel
[1:21:29]
Peralta.
[1:21:34]
>> I Sharif. Jamie Travis
[1:21:34]
Leonard and Denise Cook to
[1:21:41]
please come down to the front.
[1:21:42]
>> Hello, my name's Marianna
[1:21:45]
Nieves address on file. Once
[1:21:46]
again, you've heard from the
[1:21:48]
public about what it wants to
[1:21:51]
see within its own community.
[1:21:52]
And I have an incredible and
[1:21:54]
new transformative idea for
[1:21:56]
our community. The people of
[1:21:58]
Jacksonville. We'll pay you
[1:22:02]
tax money, too. Put the things
[1:22:03]
that we want to see the
[1:22:04]
programs and initiatives that
[1:22:05]
we want to see within our
[1:22:06]
communities and our
[1:22:06]
communities. And you actually
[1:22:10]
do at this time. As the
[1:22:10]
working class people of
[1:22:12]
Jacksonville continue to see
[1:22:13]
more money being s#
[1:22:13]
into
[1:22:14]
the city. Only to have fuse
[1:22:18]
come out. And have city
[1:22:20]
leaders seemingly be more
[1:22:21]
interested in the investment
[1:22:22]
of death and stagnation with
[1:22:26]
in Jacksonville. We are done.
[1:22:29]
We're done with a $674 million
[1:22:32]
budget site and over
[1:22:33]
150 million dollar increase
[1:22:34]
over the years, Jacksonville
[1:22:41]
can more. More than afford to
[1:22:42]
invest invest in mental health
[1:22:42]
initiatives and a mental
[1:22:45]
health professional team. In
[1:22:45]
response to the men's health
[1:22:49]
crisis in Jacksonville. And
[1:22:50]
yet it chooses to invest
[1:22:51]
heavily into armed forces
[1:22:53]
meant to protect property and
[1:22:55]
not people. Just so jso is
[1:22:58]
budget has increased from
[1:22:58]
638 million to 678 million
[1:23:01]
over the last 2 years. Does
[1:23:03]
anyone feel 678 million
[1:23:07]
dollars safer? No one does.
[1:23:09]
Budget. People's budget is
[1:23:12]
clear. It's transformative and
[1:23:13]
for the people reinvesting
[1:23:13]
millions of taxpayer dollars
[1:23:16]
into the services and the
[1:23:17]
infrastructure that make our
[1:23:20]
communities better. And no
[1:23:22]
more jso funding increases. We
[1:23:24]
need to implement a people's
[1:23:26]
budget. Now. And I know if
[1:23:28]
Charlie Kirk was here with us,
[1:23:29]
he's looking up at us right
[1:23:30]
now. He would want this as
[1:23:32]
well. Thank you, guys.
[1:23:32]
>> Thank u next. We have
[1:23:43]
Gabriel Peralta. Good evening.
[1:23:44]
Get cable pearl to address on
[1:23:48]
file. So that that cac
[1:23:49]
Jacksonville Community Action
[1:23:50]
Committee has called for the
[1:23:53]
inclusion, a participatory
[1:23:55]
budgeting and which additional
[1:23:56]
funding going towards jso
[1:23:57]
should be decided by the
[1:23:58]
community to what priorities
[1:24:02]
the community needs.
[1:24:03]
Jacksonville should allow
[1:24:03]
impacted segments of the
[1:24:05]
community who are
[1:24:07]
traditionally excluded from
[1:24:08]
conventional budgeting plans
[1:24:09]
to decide how that money is
[1:24:12]
spent. Dozens of cities,
[1:24:13]
municipalities, school
[1:24:14]
districts and other entities
[1:24:16]
have effectively use
[1:24:17]
participatory budgets to
[1:24:17]
increase Democratic input from
[1:24:23]
communities. More funding to
[1:24:24]
jso hasn't paid dividends,
[1:24:25]
however, increase
[1:24:26]
opportunities, economic
[1:24:28]
development, livable wages and
[1:24:28]
enhance public services,
[1:24:30]
provide the stability needed
[1:24:31]
for the people of Jacksonville
[1:24:32]
to 3rd thoroughly. Fuller
[1:24:35]
flourish. Over the past
[1:24:37]
decade, the jso budget has
[1:24:38]
consistently accounted for
[1:24:38]
more than half of our city
[1:24:41]
budget and is increasing
[1:24:43]
increased nearly every year
[1:24:44]
with an overall rise of over
[1:24:47]
200 million since 2013, the
[1:24:48]
mental health crisis is not a
[1:24:50]
death sentence. One family's
[1:24:53]
call 9-1-1 for help. They're
[1:24:55]
asking for medical
[1:24:58]
intervention, not execution
[1:25:00]
with a 674 million dollar
[1:25:02]
budget in over 150 million
[1:25:03]
dollar increase over the last
[1:25:03]
couple years. Jacksonville
[1:25:06]
can't afford to invest and
[1:25:08]
trade. The Jacksonville can
[1:25:11]
afford to invest in for a
[1:25:11]
trained mental health
[1:25:12]
professionals instead of
[1:25:13]
letting armed officers act as
[1:25:14]
first responders for those in
[1:25:16]
crisis, we are demanding a
[1:25:17]
permanent mental health
[1:25:19]
emergency response team
[1:25:20]
mandatory de-escalation
[1:25:23]
protocols and family and
[1:25:24]
family records within 7
[1:25:25]
business days because grieving
[1:25:26]
family members shouldn't have
[1:25:27]
to wait months for answers.
[1:25:29]
Well, jso is budget balloons.
[1:25:31]
Also also no, Charlie Kirk,
[1:25:33]
they please. It sounds
[1:25:37]
horrible.
[1:25:37]
>> Thank u next. We have a
[1:25:50]
ministry. Good afternoon. I
[1:25:59]
Sharif I am coming basically
[1:26:00]
repeat the same thing we've
[1:26:01]
been saying over and over and
[1:26:06]
over again.
[1:26:09]
>> We have to community a face
[1:26:11]
stagnation. Many of the things
[1:26:12]
that we would be coming up
[1:26:13]
here at them for have not been
[1:26:18]
acted on.
[1:26:19]
>> Connor.
[1:26:19]
>> The young man that was
[1:26:23]
arrested for speaking
[1:26:24]
regarding Palestine is still
[1:26:29]
in jail for He is public
[1:26:32]
comments he has made. And he
[1:26:35]
basically are arrested for
[1:26:37]
that from the tape. He was
[1:26:39]
assaulted. But that's another
[1:26:41]
issue. The other thing you I'm
[1:26:43]
glad to see that alligator.
[1:26:47]
Our good friend is being
[1:26:51]
closed. It is because people
[1:26:54]
have been outraged about how
[1:26:55]
the environmental situation
[1:26:59]
affected the animals. Now we
[1:27:04]
have the same situation in
[1:27:06]
Ridgewood where the
[1:27:10]
environment too.
[1:27:12]
>> Humans that are coming from
[1:27:13]
the forensic, the forensic lab
[1:27:16]
in a more.
[1:27:19]
>> We the residents of that
[1:27:20]
area.
[1:27:22]
>> Should be given the same
[1:27:23]
consideration.
[1:27:26]
>> As the alligator Alcatraz.
[1:27:26]
>> We're being affected by
[1:27:31]
those
[1:27:32]
>> All right.
[1:27:33]
>> The other thing used to
[1:27:38]
criminal PRESIDENT. Who
[1:27:39]
basically part the JANUARY
[1:27:44]
6th. People that stormed the
[1:27:49]
Capitol. He has pardoned them.
[1:27:52]
Now he has put in for these
[1:27:54]
people to be compensated. The
[1:28:02]
cry and committed. When it a
[1:28:03]
subject to be considered for
[1:28:06]
something like
[1:28:07]
>> You have victims of soy
[1:28:13]
every. X and 4 compensation
[1:28:14]
for them being victim has they
[1:28:20]
consider that? Not relevant?
[1:28:21]
But didn't you could ask for
[1:28:22]
the JANUARY 6 people to be
[1:28:26]
compensated.
[1:28:27]
>> Income and next we have
[1:28:34]
Jaime Travers, Leonard.
[1:28:36]
>> Good evening. City
[1:28:36]
COUNCILMAN, a Travis I
[1:28:37]
addresses on file. Welcome
[1:28:42]
back. So today talk about
[1:28:43]
momentum specifically in this
[1:28:43]
community. You MAY have
[1:28:47]
noticed we have increasingly
[1:28:47]
least since I've been coming
[1:28:48]
regularly, which has been
[1:28:49]
about a year. I've attended
[1:28:50]
almost every one of these
[1:28:50]
meetings and several Eli's the
[1:28:54]
meetings at this point built a
[1:28:56]
lot of moments built a lot of
[1:28:57]
community. You've seen it with
[1:28:57]
the neighborhood Bill of
[1:28:58]
Rights. You see it with the
[1:29:01]
freedom to Garden Act. So as
[1:29:02]
you keep community momentum in
[1:29:03]
mind as we come into our
[1:29:05]
fiscal year, I reviewed the
[1:29:08]
mayor's budget. I was very
[1:29:09]
interest in the fact 3% is
[1:29:12]
going to public safety. And
[1:29:13]
unless there's some around in
[1:29:13]
the infographic that was
[1:29:14]
share, that's over a billion
[1:29:18]
dollars. Public safety is
[1:29:19]
priority number one. And this
[1:29:23]
budget reflects that. I'm
[1:29:24]
beginning to think this
[1:29:24]
council in the mayor's office
[1:29:26]
have a different idea of
[1:29:28]
public safety compared to me.
[1:29:29]
Someone tell you what I think
[1:29:32]
public safety is public safety
[1:29:35]
is access to nutritious food
[1:29:35]
public safety is affordable
[1:29:39]
housing. Public safety. It's
[1:29:40]
pedestrian pathways. They keep
[1:29:44]
them safe. Public safety is
[1:29:46]
heat shelters in our lovely
[1:29:51]
Florida summer. Public safety
[1:29:52]
is feral. Population
[1:29:53]
management and funding to help
[1:29:54]
people in the community do
[1:29:57]
that. Public safety is the
[1:30:00]
freedom to garden at it's the
[1:30:01]
neighborhood bill of Rights.
[1:30:01]
It's not putting the jail on
[1:30:05]
the North side. So what I
[1:30:06]
challenge this council to do
[1:30:11]
this fiscal year is take up.
[1:30:12]
There's call to prioritize
[1:30:15]
public safety. But give us
[1:30:18]
actual public safety make our
[1:30:21]
communities better safer and
[1:30:28]
more accessible. Next. We have
[1:30:29]
Denise Cook.
[1:30:30]
>> the by up to the front,
[1:30:33]
please, Kirstin Gilmore, John
[1:30:37]
Mooney and Chelsea Chen.
[1:30:38]
>> Good evening. My name is
[1:30:41]
Denise Cooking. My addresses
[1:30:41]
on file. Give you 3 guesses.
[1:30:43]
What I'm going to talk about
[1:30:44]
tonight. We all have been
[1:30:47]
listen me for years. So I'm
[1:30:50]
going to talk about jp Smalls.
[1:30:52]
>> And I'm going to talk about
[1:30:54]
the money that we've invested,
[1:30:57]
the money that we're
[1:30:58]
continuing to invest in. How
[1:31:02]
exciting that is. This is a
[1:31:02]
huge opportunity for
[1:31:06]
Jacksonville for 3 to 209. But
[1:31:07]
we have to also put in place
[1:31:09]
things that were destroyed
[1:31:11]
during redlining. There it is.
[1:31:12]
There's that keyword. There's
[1:31:16]
that buzzword. We use it. We
[1:31:19]
use it when it's appropriate
[1:31:21]
generate hype about what we're
[1:31:23]
doing in city council. We use
[1:31:24]
it when we're generating hype
[1:31:25]
of that. We want people on our
[1:31:28]
sides. We use it when it's a
[1:31:30]
pro. When we feel like it's
[1:31:32]
appropriate. But what it
[1:31:35]
really is is a deterioration
[1:31:35]
of our communities. And it has
[1:31:37]
been in place for years. We
[1:31:38]
all know it. We know we're
[1:31:39]
still doing it. We're doing it
[1:31:41]
in different ways. We're doing
[1:31:43]
it by digital redlining,
[1:31:47]
environmental lot. Redlining.
[1:31:48]
100 different names and we
[1:31:48]
should sit down and talk about
[1:31:52]
them all. But what we're doing
[1:31:55]
now is we're investing anchor
[1:31:56]
into 3 to 209. That is an
[1:31:58]
excellent idea. But how many
[1:31:59]
of you have been down there in
[1:32:04]
the last? 6 months? Is there a
[1:32:08]
safe places to walk? Are there
[1:32:10]
any eateries? Are there
[1:32:11]
anything to support that is a
[1:32:12]
crime in that area where it
[1:32:14]
should be so that tourists can
[1:32:15]
come so that families can
[1:32:19]
come. We're going to put in a
[1:32:20]
new museum. I'm all for this.
[1:32:22]
I want us to have these
[1:32:23]
anchors. We have beautiful,
[1:32:25]
beautiful, historic buildings.
[1:32:28]
We have wonderful rich
[1:32:30]
history, not just in 3 to 209,
[1:32:30]
that all throughout
[1:32:34]
Jacksonville. That we need to
[1:32:36]
do things purposely and
[1:32:38]
thoughtfully and with intent
[1:32:39]
and make sure we're not
[1:32:41]
putting the cart before the
[1:32:42]
horse. I do also support the
[1:32:45]
Freedom Garden Act. And as far
[1:32:49]
as feral cats, I got several
[1:32:50]
rabies shots last year from a
[1:32:56]
feral cat was not trapped. So
[1:32:57]
if we need, if we can swing
[1:32:59]
some money that way, it's a
[1:33:00]
good thing that's very
[1:33:01]
dangerous because raccoons in
[1:33:03]
Florida, but they don't
[1:33:09]
demonstrate any. Thank Makes
[1:33:23]
you Kirsten Gilmore. Good
[1:33:24]
afternoon. My name is and many
[1:33:26]
of my address on file.
[1:33:29]
>> I am here to speak about
[1:33:30]
Jacksonville. Jacksonville
[1:33:31]
deserves much better than the
[1:33:33]
scraps. We are often thrown by
[1:33:36]
the wayside. Like where birds
[1:33:36]
searching for the scraps,
[1:33:38]
like, you know how when you
[1:33:39]
scatter seed and some of it
[1:33:41]
goes right in the middle and
[1:33:42]
some of it fails to meet the
[1:33:50]
outer edges of the of the the
[1:33:50]
And unfortunately, oftentimes
[1:33:51]
like birds were all trying to
[1:33:53]
flock into one area to try and
[1:33:57]
gain access to a resource need
[1:33:59]
being met to a thing that we
[1:34:02]
need. And unfortunately,
[1:34:03]
Jacksonville oftentimes leaves
[1:34:06]
many, many districts by the
[1:34:06]
wayside. Unfortunately,
[1:34:07]
Jackson believes many people,
[1:34:11]
many. Institutions, many
[1:34:11]
funding things by the wayside.
[1:34:15]
When we prioritize funding
[1:34:18]
things that are not able to
[1:34:19]
actually supplement the
[1:34:20]
scattering the way that we are
[1:34:21]
continuously scattering seeds
[1:34:22]
the way that we are
[1:34:23]
continuously only putting
[1:34:25]
things in certain areas, only
[1:34:26]
putting things in certain
[1:34:28]
districts. Only prioritizing
[1:34:30]
planting trees in certain
[1:34:31]
districts putting mental
[1:34:32]
health resources, a certain
[1:34:33]
districts and things like
[1:34:35]
that. When we only prioritize
[1:34:36]
those types of things, it
[1:34:37]
creates an unfortunate
[1:34:39]
situation where people think
[1:34:39]
that things don't exist in
[1:34:40]
those districts. People think
[1:34:43]
those districts are trashy are
[1:34:45]
disgusting. Are invaluable.
[1:34:46]
And I do not want that for our
[1:34:47]
city. And I know that we've
[1:34:49]
heard many, many people say
[1:34:50]
that they don't want that for
[1:34:51]
their city. They want to be
[1:34:53]
able to build community
[1:34:54]
gardens. They want to be able
[1:34:57]
to have food access, access to
[1:34:58]
nature, access to creating
[1:34:59]
sustainable living programs
[1:35:00]
for not only the humans of
[1:35:04]
Jacksonville, but also for the
[1:35:05]
animals of Jacksonville, for
[1:35:06]
the wildlife of Jacksonville,
[1:35:07]
for the nature of
[1:35:07]
Jacksonville, for the
[1:35:09]
continuing infrastructure of
[1:35:10]
Jacksonville, which is what
[1:35:10]
the budget is supposed to be
[1:35:13]
for. When we highlight and
[1:35:16]
over in full size, making sure
[1:35:18]
that public safety is only
[1:35:21]
administered in one way. We
[1:35:22]
often we often see that
[1:35:23]
scattering of seeds only being
[1:35:27]
concentrated in one area. I
[1:35:28]
highly recommend we listen to
[1:35:28]
our constituents. We listen to
[1:35:29]
the people that come and speak
[1:35:32]
to us weekly. I know a few of
[1:35:35]
them personally. I highly
[1:35:35]
recommend we write down those
[1:35:36]
things and we write down those
[1:35:37]
names and those groups that
[1:35:38]
are coming in speaking to you
[1:35:39]
guys and you guys continue to
[1:35:42]
have conversations with them.
[1:35:43]
I would like to say that I
[1:35:47]
would also like to support the
[1:35:47]
right to garden I would not
[1:35:50]
like Charlie Kirk Day and I
[1:35:50]
would like to decrease
[1:35:51]
chances. But thank you.
[1:35:53]
>> Thank you, ma'am.
[1:36:00]
>> Next we have. John Mooney.
[1:36:04]
>> The low.
[1:36:07]
>> I am John Jay. New to
[1:36:07]
tracing go saisd Bascom Road
[1:36:09]
Jacksonville, Florida, 3, 2,
[1:36:12]
1, 6, Jacksonville City
[1:36:14]
Council resolution 2023 0, 1,
[1:36:20]
9 shout-out Rd. The real Ron
[1:36:21]
Davis. 600 wbo be Monday
[1:36:23]
through Friday. 69 Governor
[1:36:28]
DeSantis. James up PRESIDENT
[1:36:29]
Trump, Dean Black, Scott
[1:36:31]
Wilson, Danielle Ton the board
[1:36:35]
of County commissioners. Of
[1:36:35]
Saint Johns County
[1:36:36]
Jacksonville City Council
[1:36:44]
members. Pardon new 2024, 0,
[1:36:47]
1, 0, 7, 3, 0.5 million direct
[1:36:49]
contract Twenty-twenty 403, to
[1:36:50]
5 direct contract. University
[1:36:52]
of Florida septic tanks now
[1:36:57]
wearing my fwc. Phishing with
[1:37:00]
corrections.
[1:37:04]
>> at a recent ethics
[1:37:05]
>> commission meeting and you
[1:37:06]
can ask, wrangle. Paige
[1:37:08]
Johnson, Kirby Overdorf are I
[1:37:12]
asked we have 6 cpac.
[1:37:13]
Representing near the entire
[1:37:14]
city of Jacksonville. We have
[1:37:20]
the mayor's Disability Council
[1:37:22]
the Council Elder Affairs Wise
[1:37:22]
Ogc the Office of General
[1:37:24]
Counsel not represented at
[1:37:25]
these meetings. The public
[1:37:27]
trust just crushed, especially
[1:37:29]
in a waterway. Chanel show
[1:37:29]
anyone just down about a
[1:37:36]
minute. Okay, 2026. 0, 0, 2,
[1:37:37]
4, is a recent legislative
[1:37:39]
example. 2026. 0, 0, 0, for
[1:37:40]
that Parks Trust Fund 2026, 0,
[1:37:43]
3, 9, 6, movie trust fund.
[1:37:45]
>> 2025, 0, 4, 6, 3, Veterans
[1:37:48]
Trust Fund 2025, 0, 8, 6, 7
[1:37:49]
Duval County Public Schools
[1:37:52]
Cip one d-conn see o j 2009,
[1:37:53]
40. 42 that your official
[1:37:57]
Reeve Trust Fund and support
[1:37:57]
the freedom to garden at k
[1:38:00]
True Commission waterways. No,
[1:38:02]
that's good thing to the but
[1:38:06]
here real quick on end of 20
[1:38:07]
some seconds. Here's downtown
[1:38:08]
Jacksonville. The visitors
[1:38:11]
map. You open it and you know
[1:38:12]
The kayak launch and Chelsea
[1:38:14]
Street, it's not there. Here's
[1:38:17]
the new panda. Looking much
[1:38:21]
smaller. This one ends. Again.
[1:38:22]
The kayak launch and chills
[1:38:24]
the streets. Not there. And
[1:38:26]
there's legislation comment.
[1:38:31]
Well, tell you, take anybody.
[1:38:34]
It's the world market 2 last
[1:38:36]
speaker is a chill to chat.
[1:38:44]
Chapman.
[1:38:45]
>> Fellow council members, my
[1:38:46]
name is so Sweet. Chapman, a
[1:38:48]
single mother of 2 uniquely
[1:38:49]
able size and a resident of
[1:38:53]
Duval County since 2021. Also
[1:38:55]
a member of naacp and the
[1:38:57]
founder of guided Gordy
[1:38:59]
protecting which will be
[1:39:01]
providing a you've academic
[1:39:02]
community enrichment program
[1:39:02]
for the eu in the near future
[1:39:08]
of 2027. I came Jacksonville
[1:39:09]
seeking peace grow in a
[1:39:09]
stability after homelessness.
[1:39:14]
But instead faced re pd
[1:39:16]
negligence. The lay-in
[1:39:17]
violations from the city of
[1:39:18]
Jacksonville that prolonged
[1:39:19]
our hardship endanger my
[1:39:23]
family's well-being. Despite
[1:39:26]
clear needs in eligibility,
[1:39:27]
essential services were
[1:39:28]
mishandled or denied, leaving
[1:39:30]
my children without consistent
[1:39:31]
disability support in
[1:39:32]
Portsmouth to navigate in
[1:39:35]
instability. No family should
[1:39:37]
indoor the systematic failures
[1:39:39]
caused emotional financial in
[1:39:40]
physical harm. Wild strucked
[1:39:43]
in our path forward, securing
[1:39:43]
housing and economic
[1:39:48]
independence. Even through
[1:39:49]
challenges speak publicly
[1:39:51]
because the residents of Duval
[1:39:53]
experience reflects a broader
[1:39:54]
pattern of institutional
[1:39:55]
neglect affecting grand double
[1:39:56]
families across Jacksonville.
[1:40:00]
I remain committed advocating
[1:40:01]
for accountability change in a
[1:40:02]
few to work. Families like
[1:40:06]
mine receive the or they are
[1:40:07]
promised council members. I'm
[1:40:09]
here to address that clear
[1:40:11]
shift in Jacksonville spending
[1:40:11]
priorities between the budget
[1:40:17]
of 2019 and the 2026 20 7
[1:40:18]
budget. And what those changes
[1:40:19]
mean for the people who live
[1:40:22]
here. In 2019, the City
[1:40:25]
General Fund exceeded 1.2, 6
[1:40:27]
billion with nearly
[1:40:29]
750 million dedicated to
[1:40:32]
public safety infrastructure
[1:40:32]
improvements relied heavily on
[1:40:35]
debt and social investments
[1:40:36]
were limited. That budget
[1:40:38]
maintain basic operations, but
[1:40:39]
he did not deliver
[1:40:42]
transformative change for
[1:40:46]
residents in 2026. 2027 and
[1:40:47]
the public faith, the
[1:40:47]
feel-good phones about 55% of
[1:40:49]
the general fund. While people
[1:40:50]
in this news remains small,
[1:40:56]
it. 7.3% The capital
[1:40:59]
improvement plan has exploded
[1:41:02]
for 262 million for the year.
[1:41:05]
And 1.2 billion over 5 years.
[1:41:08]
With 1 billion funded through
[1:41:10]
borrowing these. This
[1:41:12]
represents a major strategic
[1:41:13]
shift towards driven
[1:41:15]
infrastructure expansion. The
[1:41:18]
pattern 5th in public safety
[1:41:18]
dominates Social. Thank you,
[1:41:23]
ma'am. Programs.
[1:41:24]
>> We have 2 people who do not
[1:41:25]
wish to speak with Samantha
[1:41:29]
Cards. Jessica, much an please
[1:41:31]
support Jaycee agencies, but
[1:41:32]
people's budget create a
[1:41:36]
mental health resource center.
[1:41:38]
And and some buck do not want
[1:41:39]
does not want the soccer
[1:41:43]
stadium at the town center.
[1:41:44]
MR. PRESIDENT, before moving
[1:41:45]
on to public hearings as per
[1:41:47]
your request, we're going to
[1:41:49]
be moving up item number one.
[1:41:54]
44 on Page 56. Number one. 44
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on page 56, 2026, 0, 5, 7, 6.
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I move the emergency.
[1:42:01]
>> We have a motion a second
[1:42:03]
on the emergency and the
[1:42:04]
applicant's representative is
[1:42:05]
here. If anyone did not get to
[1:42:06]
talk to him during committee
[1:42:09]
week. Seeing nobody in the
[1:42:11]
queue will take the emergency
[1:42:12]
vote verbally. All those in
[1:42:14]
favor indicate by saying Aye,
[1:42:17]
aye, all again saying no. The
[1:42:17]
emergency passes.
[1:42:18]
>> present, we have to public
[1:42:19]
participation cards. The first
[1:42:23]
is John New
[1:42:24]
>> MR. New Europe. 3 minutes
[1:42:25]
on item one. 44 2026, 0, 5, 7,
[1:42:31]
6,
[1:42:31]
>> Hello, I am John Jay
[1:42:36]
nudity. Jacksonville City
[1:42:38]
Council resolution 2023, 0, 8,
[1:42:39]
1, 9, city Council district 4
[1:42:42]
cpac, 3 school board district
[1:42:46]
3 I thought I marked on the
[1:42:49]
card did not wish to speak. I
[1:42:50]
just need to hear your voice,
[1:42:55]
my friend. Thank you for your.
[1:42:56]
We're doing a but I just but
[1:42:59]
I'm here. And and just for the
[1:43:01]
record, I do believe unmarked.
[1:43:04]
I support the legislation.
[1:43:05]
Thank you, MR. New. Thank you,
[1:43:10]
Alright. Thank you, We have
[1:43:17]
another speaker, MR. Harden.
[1:43:18]
>> Council PRESIDENT Have
[1:43:18]
questions only have one.
[1:43:19]
Someone has anything they'd
[1:43:20]
like to ask. Know, All right.
[1:43:25]
Thank you, sir. Yes, sir.
[1:43:26]
Having no more cards, I move
[1:43:29]
the emergency move the bill as
[1:43:30]
emergency.
[1:43:31]
>> We have a motion and the
[1:43:32]
second on the bill is an
[1:43:33]
emergency. Again, the
[1:43:33]
applicant's representatives
[1:43:34]
here for any questions seeing
[1:43:44]
none. So about a quarter want.
[1:43:47]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[1:43:48]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 5,
[1:43:51]
7, 6, passes.
[1:43:52]
>> PRESIDENT Is now time for
[1:43:52]
public hearings be beginning
[1:43:56]
on Page 8 councilmember should
[1:43:58]
declare any ex parte
[1:44:00]
communications. Anyone wishing
[1:44:00]
to speak on the following
[1:44:01]
bills should have completed a
[1:44:03]
blue Speaker card and you
[1:44:05]
would be allowed 3 minutes to
[1:44:08]
speak if you provide your
[1:44:09]
address or the person on the
[1:44:10]
prescribed form and don't wish
[1:44:12]
to stay on the microphone,
[1:44:13]
then you're permitted to just
[1:44:17]
to state it on the record. But
[1:44:18]
we encourage to be specific as
[1:44:19]
possible as to your location
[1:44:21]
because it will likely impact
[1:44:24]
the weight your comments like
[1:44:26]
public comment, assuming
[1:44:29]
approval of the presiding
[1:44:29]
speaker MAY be invited to the
[1:44:30]
Robert Johnson room for
[1:44:33]
further discussion
[1:44:35]
councilmember failure to
[1:44:35]
complete the form provided
[1:44:36]
including the provision of an
[1:44:38]
address on the form. Mean,
[1:44:39]
your name will not be called
[1:44:43]
for public hearing. MR. Deal,
[1:44:49]
please read the Bills.
[1:44:50]
>> 2026. 3.76 4.20 For 21 for
[1:44:57]
83 for 84. 45 5? 33 5. 34 5,
[1:45:00]
35, 5. 36 5. 37 5. 38. 5.39 5.
[1:45:06]
45? 41 5. 42 5.43 5.52 2026.
[1:45:08]
1. 22 one. 23 one. 24 1. 25
[1:45:13]
one. 26 1.27 For 22 for 23.
[1:45:18]
For 24. For 25 for 26. For 27,
[1:45:19]
for 28. For 29. For 30, for 31
[1:45:24]
for 30 to 4.33 For 75. 4. 76
[1:45:27]
4.77 For 78 for 79 for 84, 81
[1:45:30]
and for 82.
[1:45:31]
>> This PRESIDENT Would ask
[1:45:33]
you to please open up those
[1:45:34]
public hearings. These public
[1:45:35]
hearings are all open again as
[1:45:36]
per your request. We're going
[1:45:37]
to jump ahead and take 2 items
[1:45:40]
out of order. Item number. 46,
[1:45:45]
2026 4, 7, 7 on Page. 24. Do
[1:45:49]
we have any cards for that?
[1:45:50]
You have 2 cards on 46, 3
[1:45:56]
cards. I'm sorry for 77. I'm
[1:46:06]
sorry. It is 77, 70. All
[1:46:06]
right. We've got 4 card.
[1:46:07]
First. One is Christian
[1:46:10]
County. Followed by Grady
[1:46:14]
Pope. And Laura Baucus would
[1:46:15]
ask you to come to onto the
[1:46:16]
front, please. And then MISTER
[1:46:19]
Hart.
[1:46:21]
>> And because we skipped
[1:46:23]
ahead, reminder to all my
[1:46:24]
colleagues, we're on item
[1:46:25]
number. 46, 2026, 0, 4, 7, 7,
[1:46:40]
We're in public.
[1:47:08]
>> Good evening. Chrissy
[1:47:13]
address on file. I oppose Bill
[1:47:14]
0, 4, 7, 7, as it has clearly
[1:47:15]
identified comp plan
[1:47:18]
deficiencies. On behalf of the
[1:47:19]
San Jose Neighborhood
[1:47:21]
Association myself as a
[1:47:22]
homeowner, I respectfully
[1:47:24]
request that the San Jose
[1:47:25]
Neighborhood Association
[1:47:28]
competent substantial evidence
[1:47:28]
binder exhibits one through 53
[1:47:31]
be entered into the record.
[1:47:33]
This exhibit binder represents
[1:47:33]
months of research through
[1:47:35]
public records. City planning
[1:47:37]
documents. Engineering reports
[1:47:38]
environmental studies,
[1:47:41]
demographic data legislative
[1:47:42]
history. Starry Ducey says
[1:47:43]
judicial precedents and
[1:47:45]
applicable statutes and case
[1:47:47]
law. It has been prepared to
[1:47:48]
assist the council in
[1:47:49]
developing a complete
[1:47:50]
evidentiary support record for
[1:47:52]
this proposed land use
[1:47:54]
amendment. And it is compare
[1:47:56]
and its companion rezoning 4,
[1:47:57]
7, 8, the first section of the
[1:47:59]
binder focuses on the land use
[1:48:01]
amendment it contains
[1:48:01]
demographic information
[1:48:03]
planning analysis,
[1:48:04]
comprehensive plan, resources
[1:48:06]
and legal authorities that are
[1:48:07]
supported by evidence and
[1:48:09]
advances a legitimate public
[1:48:10]
purpose, which at this time we
[1:48:11]
oppose due to failure points
[1:48:14]
within the application. The
[1:48:15]
remaining sections are
[1:48:17]
organized around 5 findings
[1:48:18]
required by the San Jose
[1:48:19]
Neighborhood Association
[1:48:22]
resolution 0, 1, 2, 0, 2, 6,
[1:48:22]
and addresses. The companion
[1:48:25]
planned unit development which
[1:48:26]
my neighbors we'll address for
[1:48:29]
the next bill. It's tab
[1:48:30]
corresponds to one of those
[1:48:31]
findings and include
[1:48:33]
supporting documents related
[1:48:36]
to traffic compatibility
[1:48:37]
buffering. Environmental
[1:48:38]
preservation, infrastructure,
[1:48:39]
and housing standards and how
[1:48:41]
our 5 asks reasonably repair
[1:48:44]
aforementioned failure point.
[1:48:45]
It has been organizes a
[1:48:45]
working reference to help
[1:48:47]
locate supporting documents.
[1:48:49]
Quickly formulate questions as
[1:48:51]
they arise and identify issues
[1:48:52]
that MAY warrant further
[1:48:53]
discussion before this matter
[1:48:54]
moves to the all use the
[1:48:57]
committee, the neighborhood
[1:48:57]
presents that these exhibits
[1:48:59]
to help complete the
[1:49:00]
evidentiary record by
[1:49:02]
providing information that was
[1:49:03]
either not included your fully
[1:49:05]
developed in the applicant
[1:49:07]
submission. Our intent is not
[1:49:09]
to overwhelm the record but to
[1:49:10]
assist the council and
[1:49:11]
evaluating whether the
[1:49:11]
applicable land use and zoning
[1:49:14]
standards have been satisfied.
[1:49:15]
We're encouraged by the
[1:49:16]
applicant statements after
[1:49:18]
Planning Commission indicating
[1:49:18]
a willingness to begin work
[1:49:19]
shopping. This application
[1:49:22]
with us now. We appreciate
[1:49:23]
that commitment and look
[1:49:24]
forward to a meaningful
[1:49:26]
meeting of the minds on the 5
[1:49:27]
issues identified for final
[1:49:29]
approval. Thank you very much.
[1:49:38]
>> Thank u next. We have great
[1:49:39]
Grady, Pope, 3, 7, 0, 4, Ponce
[1:49:42]
de Leon Avenue in San Jose. 3,
[1:49:43]
2, 2, 1, 7, I oppose
[1:49:50]
ordinance. To 6, 0, 4, 7, 8,
[1:49:53]
As written. The staff report
[1:49:54]
for this ordinance recommends
[1:49:58]
there were speaking 4, 7, 7,
[1:49:58]
sorry. House have a seat. MISS
[1:49:59]
County just spoke for me on
[1:50:03]
that. When speak. All right.
[1:50:10]
Next, we have Laura Baucus.
[1:50:11]
>> I am Laura Baucus, my
[1:50:13]
addresses on file. And I
[1:50:18]
oppose 4, 7, 7,
[1:50:19]
>> This section of Old Kings
[1:50:20]
Road south between Saint
[1:50:22]
Augustine Road and Powers
[1:50:23]
Avenue.
[1:50:24]
>> Where the Kings Trail
[1:50:27]
property is located does not
[1:50:30]
meet current standards for
[1:50:31]
residential roadway. It has to
[1:50:33]
10 foot lanes, no shoulder, no
[1:50:35]
parking lanes or turn lanes.
[1:50:37]
There's no bike lane and no
[1:50:41]
jta bus route. No space was
[1:50:44]
planned for red expansion.
[1:50:46]
Drainage ditches wind about
[1:50:47]
half of this section of Old
[1:50:47]
Kings Road south on both
[1:50:53]
sides. The road 57
[1:50:54]
single-family homes across the
[1:50:57]
20 foot wide street facing the
[1:51:00]
Kings Trail Elementary School
[1:51:02]
property and it is assigned as
[1:51:03]
a suburban residential
[1:51:07]
collector. C 3 are by the fdot
[1:51:11]
or a collector by the city
[1:51:12]
with unacceptable volume of
[1:51:14]
over 17,000 trips, daily,
[1:51:14]
according to the
[1:51:20]
classification. In early JULY,
[1:51:22]
our neighborhood association
[1:51:22]
heard an independent traffic
[1:51:24]
engineer, Austin CHAIRMAN. He
[1:51:28]
did just analysis and it
[1:51:30]
indicates King's road sale
[1:51:30]
things nonconforming to
[1:51:31]
current standards for a
[1:51:33]
collector road weight. They're
[1:51:37]
currently no bus stops, know,
[1:51:40]
routes along this section and
[1:51:42]
the closest bus stops around
[1:51:43]
Saint Augustine Road about a
[1:51:45]
3rd of a mile away or half a
[1:51:49]
mile to Powers Avenue to east.
[1:51:50]
This is important to consider
[1:51:51]
when increasing housing
[1:51:52]
density, according to the
[1:51:57]
comprehensive plan. And in
[1:52:01]
2025, the city of Jacksonville
[1:52:03]
traffic study identified this
[1:52:03]
section of road. The Kings
[1:52:06]
Trail School property is on
[1:52:10]
gets about 2500 trips daily.
[1:52:11]
But f dot estimates 3600 trips
[1:52:15]
daily in this section as
[1:52:17]
comparison of collectors to
[1:52:20]
our West, Saint Augustine
[1:52:22]
Road, its quest to find some
[1:52:24]
minor arterial. And it has 4
[1:52:26]
lanes but no parking or turn
[1:52:30]
lanes and it gets over 16,000
[1:52:33]
daily trips and it's 60%
[1:52:34]
capacity, according to
[1:52:37]
projections to our East Powers
[1:52:40]
Avenue, a minor arterial. It's
[1:52:41]
a suburb in commercial
[1:52:44]
collectors, c 3 c has 4 lanes
[1:52:47]
with a center turn lane. It is
[1:52:48]
estimated that over 21,000
[1:52:52]
average daily trips and is it
[1:52:52]
about 58% of the projected
[1:52:56]
volume? Powers also has
[1:52:57]
routes, bus stops in a bike
[1:53:02]
lane. The proposed land use
[1:53:03]
change would open this area to
[1:53:06]
medium density residential
[1:53:07]
development, according to the
[1:53:09]
traffic engineers analysis.
[1:53:12]
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.
[1:53:18]
Paul r.
[1:53:18]
>> Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN
[1:53:21]
pardoned 14. 31 Riverplace
[1:53:22]
Boulevard. I'll go quickly on
[1:53:24]
this. This piece of property
[1:53:25]
joining a parcel that you zone
[1:53:29]
for the exact same use. They
[1:53:29]
were backing of this property
[1:53:33]
less than 6 months ago. We're
[1:53:34]
proposing down-zoning on the
[1:53:35]
site currently being used for
[1:53:37]
school. The school board's
[1:53:37]
closing down. It's going to be
[1:53:41]
institutional used to single
[1:53:42]
family residential the road
[1:53:43]
that they're talking about
[1:53:48]
King's Road at the spot that
[1:53:49]
we're planning our entry onto
[1:53:53]
the road is capacity yet 14%.
[1:53:54]
There's 86% capacity,
[1:53:55]
according to the plate
[1:53:58]
apartment at this site,
[1:54:00]
everything that they propose
[1:54:00]
in there, but that they handed
[1:54:03]
out to is incorrect. It is
[1:54:05]
counter to the plane
[1:54:06]
department's report and has
[1:54:09]
information in those reports
[1:54:10]
on those issues. So I'll be
[1:54:11]
happy go over those with any
[1:54:12]
way if you have time. Thank
[1:54:15]
you, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
[1:54:16]
>> MR. PRESIDENT. You also
[1:54:17]
have 4 members who do not wish
[1:54:20]
to speak for him individuals.
[1:54:20]
Lisa Fried lander. She
[1:54:24]
opposes. Lee's Prescott,
[1:54:26]
Prescott, Prescott opposes
[1:54:33]
Jacob, like? All oppose 4, 7,
[1:54:36]
7, I have no more cars on 4,
[1:54:36]
7, 7,
[1:54:37]
>> This public hearing as
[1:54:38]
close an additional public
[1:54:40]
hearing will be held on AUGUST
[1:54:44]
11. 2026 next. We have item
[1:54:45]
number. 47, 2026, 4, 7, 8, at
[1:54:45]
2 speaker cards great for pope
[1:54:56]
and or boat. Credico, 3, 7, 0,
[1:54:57]
4, Ponce de Leon Avenue in the
[1:55:00]
sand is a neighborhood. 3, 2,
[1:55:01]
2, 1, 7, I posed ordinance to
[1:55:04]
0 to 6, 0, 4, 7, 8 as written
[1:55:04]
the staff report. Order
[1:55:07]
recommends 2 conditions. The
[1:55:08]
standard traffic study and
[1:55:10]
requiring guest parking to be
[1:55:11]
provided in accordance with
[1:55:13]
the code at a ratio, one
[1:55:14]
parking space for every 3
[1:55:17]
townhomes and or cottages at
[1:55:18]
the Planning Commission
[1:55:20]
hearing on JULY. 23, the
[1:55:20]
attorney for the applicant
[1:55:23]
agreed to the traffic study
[1:55:24]
the belt, but balked being
[1:55:26]
required to provide guests
[1:55:27]
parking stating its burden to
[1:55:30]
maintain. If you look at Page
[1:55:34]
9 of the staff report, it
[1:55:35]
explicitly states as a number
[1:55:36]
of town home and cut his
[1:55:37]
development has increased
[1:55:39]
throughout the city. The
[1:55:40]
Planning Department and Public
[1:55:41]
Works. Department had received
[1:55:43]
a growing number of complaints
[1:55:44]
regarding inadequate guess
[1:55:45]
parking within these
[1:55:47]
communities and sufficient
[1:55:48]
guess parking often results in
[1:55:50]
vehicles being park along
[1:55:50]
internal roadways or a chase
[1:55:54]
in Public street, creating
[1:55:56]
potential traffic circulation
[1:55:57]
issues impacting neighboring
[1:55:59]
residential areas requiring
[1:56:01]
guest parking as the standard
[1:56:03]
ratio will help accommodate
[1:56:03]
those are parking demand
[1:56:04]
reduced on tree parking
[1:56:06]
conflicts and maintain
[1:56:09]
compatibility with surrounding
[1:56:09]
neighborhoods. Jose
[1:56:10]
Neighborhood Association
[1:56:10]
wholeheartedly agrees and
[1:56:14]
adds. That relying upon
[1:56:15]
on-street parking will also
[1:56:16]
create an unnecessary hurdle
[1:56:18]
for emergency responders do
[1:56:19]
that are proposed in 2 major
[1:56:22]
of the project and limited
[1:56:24]
availability for on-street
[1:56:25]
parking. We respectively
[1:56:26]
request that you consider
[1:56:26]
approval to account credit
[1:56:28]
because parking thank you.
[1:56:29]
Thank you, Sir. Thank you, MR.
[1:56:33]
Hard.
[1:56:34]
>> Thank you. CHAIRMAN Paul
[1:56:36]
Hard 14. They want replace
[1:56:37]
school board. We have proposed
[1:56:39]
that the planning commission
[1:56:40]
that the guests parking in
[1:56:44]
front of the houses, the lot
[1:56:45]
to lot louder than 31 feet.
[1:56:47]
They have room for parking on
[1:56:49]
the front. Otherwise what you
[1:56:50]
would have its guest parking
[1:56:53]
scattered throughout the
[1:56:54]
subdivision. There are people
[1:56:56]
use for storage. They're not
[1:56:58]
used for parking. People want
[1:57:00]
to park and then come visit.
[1:57:01]
So walked through 4 houses
[1:57:03]
away. We'll have some of the
[1:57:05]
folks for bring finders here
[1:57:05]
to answer the questions on
[1:57:08]
that. But we we think that the
[1:57:12]
proposed plan proposed in the
[1:57:13]
site plan in the application
[1:57:14]
fits this requirement. Thank
[1:57:18]
you, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
[1:57:18]
>> PRESIDENT No more for item
[1:57:22]
for I do have one more.
[1:57:23]
>> You do have another card. I
[1:57:29]
believe I So they have 4 more
[1:57:34]
cards. 5. This canning. The
[1:57:35]
surf, Redlined or Philander.
[1:57:41]
Rush. Any careful. Courtney
[1:57:42]
Pope, he just spoke on that
[1:57:44]
one. And then Laura Baucus,
[1:57:50]
Candy.
[1:57:51]
>> Again, Kristie Kenney
[1:57:54]
address on file. As written 0,
[1:57:58]
4, should not pass for nearly
[1:57:59]
75 years. Our San Jose
[1:58:00]
neighborhood settled the side.
[1:58:01]
The Kings Trail Elementary
[1:58:02]
School. It was not perfect,
[1:58:06]
but it was predictable.
[1:58:06]
Families understood the
[1:58:07]
relationship with teen their
[1:58:10]
homes and that property. The
[1:58:12]
school served a profound
[1:58:13]
public purpose and the
[1:58:14]
surrounding community rooted
[1:58:16]
around that reality that
[1:58:18]
chapters changing and we
[1:58:19]
understand the properties to
[1:58:21]
not remain frozen in time. We
[1:58:22]
understand that housing
[1:58:22]
demands are different and
[1:58:23]
we're not asking this council
[1:58:26]
to stop progress, quality
[1:58:28]
planning asks a significant
[1:58:29]
question when one land use
[1:58:32]
gives way to another. Will we
[1:58:32]
build the right bridge between
[1:58:35]
the old and the new?
[1:58:36]
>> Because the city is not
[1:58:38]
simply approving housing. Its
[1:58:39]
granting a new set of
[1:58:41]
development rights that will
[1:58:41]
remain attached to this
[1:58:42]
property with the pd long
[1:58:45]
after we're gone. The former
[1:58:45]
school property in the
[1:58:47]
proposed development are not
[1:58:47]
equivalent uses simply because
[1:58:50]
the apa tie the same acreage.
[1:58:52]
One was a public institutional
[1:58:52]
use activity concentrated
[1:58:54]
around school calendar and
[1:58:57]
activities. The other creates
[1:58:58]
110 permanent household and
[1:59:01]
the intensities of such that
[1:59:02]
difference matters. It is why
[1:59:05]
the pd written description
[1:59:07]
matters. Apd is not a
[1:59:08]
contingency. It is a legal
[1:59:08]
instrument that defines what
[1:59:10]
can and cannot happen on this
[1:59:12]
property. The applicant
[1:59:14]
suggested that many of the
[1:59:16]
protections are neighborhood
[1:59:16]
request unreasonable but will
[1:59:20]
likely happen anyway and are
[1:59:22]
intent. Respectfully likely is
[1:59:23]
not a zoning standard and of
[1:59:24]
our community cannot think
[1:59:25]
feel and believe to
[1:59:26]
substantiate or request
[1:59:29]
neither can the applicant.
[1:59:30]
This is still a school board
[1:59:32]
property. Our ask is the
[1:59:35]
language you approve. Our
[1:59:36]
neighborhood is requested 5
[1:59:38]
reasonable additions to the pd
[1:59:40]
written description. They are
[1:59:41]
not unreasonable demands.
[1:59:41]
Their modest safeguards
[1:59:43]
intended to ensure that the
[1:59:45]
transition from a long
[1:59:45]
established suburban
[1:59:46]
neighborhood to a higher
[1:59:48]
intensity, urban residential
[1:59:49]
development occurs
[1:59:50]
respectfully for all property
[1:59:52]
owners for 4 months. Residents
[1:59:55]
of asked for collaboration.
[1:59:56]
We've reviewed plans, studied
[1:59:59]
impacts and offered solutions.
[2:00:00]
We've not come here to oppose.
[2:00:03]
We've come here to improve
[2:00:04]
during the planning commission
[2:00:05]
hearing. All of those efforts
[2:00:07]
were dismissed rather than
[2:00:09]
examined, but disagreements
[2:00:09]
should never replace evidence
[2:00:10]
and frustration should never
[2:00:15]
replace planning. Do not ask
[2:00:16]
this neighborhood to trust but
[2:00:19]
cannot be enforced to rely on
[2:00:20]
assurances never written down.
[2:00:21]
How can we be expected to do
[2:00:25]
that?
[2:00:26]
>> Thanks. We have Lisa Free
[2:00:32]
lander. That's close.
[2:00:33]
>> Lisa Friedlander, my
[2:00:35]
addresses on file. I
[2:00:38]
respectfully urge you to
[2:00:40]
oppose ordinance. 2026 Dash,
[2:00:41]
0, 4, 7, 8, unless it is
[2:00:44]
amended to require meaningful
[2:00:45]
protection. This property is
[2:00:46]
wetlands and mature tree
[2:00:50]
canopy. In the last 3 years.
[2:00:52]
Within 1.6 miles of our San
[2:00:54]
Jose neighborhood. We have
[2:00:58]
lost 105 acres, a forest that
[2:00:59]
served as a major ecosystem to
[2:01:03]
our area. Clear cut by
[2:01:05]
developers for affordable
[2:01:07]
housing apartments, luxury
[2:01:12]
apartments and townhomes. 105
[2:01:13]
acres of beautiful trees and
[2:01:17]
wildlife gone. I would be
[2:01:18]
lying if I said, I believe
[2:01:19]
that the planning Commission
[2:01:22]
or dream Finders cares about
[2:01:25]
the 1.2 acres of wetlands
[2:01:27]
behind the Kings Trail
[2:01:28]
Elementary School. But we
[2:01:32]
care. Instead of an extensive
[2:01:34]
clearing of the 1.2 acres of
[2:01:35]
wetlands which are live oaks
[2:01:39]
and cypress trees. The builder
[2:01:40]
could choose to utilize this
[2:01:42]
land for the benefit of
[2:01:43]
themselves. New homeowners and
[2:01:46]
the existing neighborhood.
[2:01:48]
There is research supporting
[2:01:49]
this path. Please refer to
[2:01:52]
your binder. The San Jose area
[2:01:53]
is one of the few remaining
[2:01:55]
gems in Jacksonville from Bay
[2:01:59]
Meadows, North. 2 San Marco.
[2:02:01]
It's a pleasant drive with
[2:02:02]
mature trees and no strip
[2:02:06]
malls. Every few miles. I have
[2:02:09]
so much respect and gratitude
[2:02:10]
for the San Jose Neighborhood
[2:02:13]
Association. I but I belong
[2:02:15]
to. They have worked
[2:02:16]
tirelessly giving their time
[2:02:18]
and money to try and preserve
[2:02:19]
our neighborhood. Even though
[2:02:20]
the game same stacked against
[2:02:24]
the people. Jacksonville is
[2:02:25]
blessed to have such a caring
[2:02:26]
citizens as a part of their
[2:02:30]
community. I respectfully ask
[2:02:31]
you to vote no on this
[2:02:35]
ordinance. 0, 4, 7, 8, and
[2:02:35]
less environmental protections
[2:02:37]
are made a condition of
[2:02:39]
approval. Once these let
[2:02:41]
wetlands are filled in these
[2:02:43]
trees are removed. They cannot
[2:02:45]
be replaced. We have an
[2:02:48]
obligation to ensure growth
[2:02:49]
occurs responsibly and in
[2:02:51]
accordance with the standards
[2:02:52]
the city Council has already
[2:02:54]
adopted. Thank you for time.
[2:02:54]
>> next, we have the least
[2:03:01]
brush.
[2:03:02]
>> Good evening. My name is
[2:03:04]
Alice Bureau should address on
[2:03:05]
record and I'm the PRESIDENT
[2:03:07]
Of the San Jose Neighborhood
[2:03:09]
Association. I'll be speaking
[2:03:11]
to Purple Tab 5 in your
[2:03:11]
binders and submit those
[2:03:15]
documents for the record. I
[2:03:17]
oppose ordinance 2026, 0, 4,
[2:03:18]
7, 8, not the project itself,
[2:03:21]
but the pd as written. There
[2:03:22]
are things about the project
[2:03:25]
we can support. But the pd
[2:03:26]
written description leaves
[2:03:27]
many questions unanswered in
[2:03:28]
leaves a blank check for the
[2:03:29]
developer to cash without
[2:03:33]
community input. At the
[2:03:34]
Planning Commission hearing on
[2:03:36]
JULY 23rd, MR. Harden callers
[2:03:37]
are requested conditions as
[2:03:41]
unreasonable. That MAY seem
[2:03:41]
like a true statement to
[2:03:42]
someone who doesn't live in
[2:03:43]
the area and travel the
[2:03:46]
roadways on a daily basis or
[2:03:47]
even to someone who doesn't
[2:03:48]
live directly across the
[2:03:51]
street from the project site.
[2:03:52]
Our neighborhood is asking for
[2:03:54]
5 specific conditions to
[2:03:56]
protect character of our
[2:03:58]
neighborhood, all supported by
[2:03:59]
the comprehensive plan,
[2:04:00]
Florida statutes in prior
[2:04:03]
counsel actions. One of those
[2:04:04]
conditions is housing for the
[2:04:07]
elderly, which the applicant
[2:04:07]
has identified as one of the
[2:04:08]
principal permitted uses
[2:04:12]
within this pd. Because the
[2:04:12]
written description does not
[2:04:13]
define what qualifies as
[2:04:16]
housing for the elderly. The
[2:04:17]
ordinance should express Lee
[2:04:18]
require that any development
[2:04:21]
relying on this authorization
[2:04:22]
comply with the federal
[2:04:24]
Housing for Older Persons Act
[2:04:24]
and its implementing
[2:04:25]
regulations for the life of
[2:04:29]
the development. Requiring
[2:04:30]
compliance with Copa simply
[2:04:32]
ensures that it if it get this
[2:04:36]
permit, uses pursued. It
[2:04:38]
functions as a true age
[2:04:39]
qualify community consistent
[2:04:39]
with both the applicants
[2:04:40]
representations and federal
[2:04:45]
law. We recognize the need for
[2:04:47]
and would welcome a 55 plus
[2:04:48]
independent living active
[2:04:51]
adult community in our area.
[2:04:54]
In fact, of the 4 active adult
[2:04:55]
communities within a 10 mile
[2:04:57]
radius of this project site.
[2:04:58]
Only one offers detached
[2:05:00]
single family homes. And it's
[2:05:04]
the farthest from the site.
[2:05:05]
I'd like to mention that
[2:05:07]
despite our best efforts we've
[2:05:07]
not been given the opportunity
[2:05:08]
to meet with Mr, Harden or
[2:05:12]
have a town hall. Although the
[2:05:14]
affected parties were afforded
[2:05:15]
some type of virtual meeting.
[2:05:16]
The San Jose Neighborhood
[2:05:17]
Association was not notified
[2:05:21]
or invited. Lastly in JUNE,
[2:05:24]
the South, the cpac voted
[2:05:25]
unanimously 19, 2, 0, to
[2:05:26]
submit a letter recommending a
[2:05:28]
deferment to provide the
[2:05:29]
planning commission and the
[2:05:31]
public with additional time to
[2:05:32]
carefully evaluate the
[2:05:33]
benefits and concerns
[2:05:34]
associated with these
[2:05:37]
ordinances. And potential
[2:05:39]
effects on the surrounding
[2:05:40]
neighborhood. A copy of the
[2:05:44]
cpac letter is in your binder.
[2:05:45]
The planning commission
[2:05:46]
declined to differ. But if are
[2:05:47]
given more time, we're
[2:05:47]
confident we can work with the
[2:05:48]
applicant to reach a solution.
[2:05:50]
Thank you for your time.
[2:05:51]
>> Thank u next. We have meet
[2:05:57]
Cal Phil.
[2:05:59]
>> Good evening. I'm Amy
[2:06:00]
Calfee.
[2:06:03]
>> thank Writing one wing
[2:06:08]
here. Sorry about that.
[2:06:09]
>> Yeah. So Amy Calfee with
[2:06:14]
Jose Neighborhood Association.
[2:06:14]
My addresses on file and I'm
[2:06:16]
speaking opposition to the
[2:06:17]
proposed ordinance o for 7, 8
[2:06:20]
as written. Having spoken here
[2:06:22]
before you all up, asked us to
[2:06:25]
just don't say no, bring some
[2:06:27]
ideas. So in your binders and
[2:06:28]
we keep referring to that,
[2:06:31]
it's quick reference material
[2:06:33]
full of competent and
[2:06:34]
substantial evidence
[2:06:37]
supporting the beauties
[2:06:37]
conditions that we're
[2:06:38]
requesting. So you've heard
[2:06:39]
about wetland Seaford, about
[2:06:40]
traffic. Mike, to talk to you
[2:06:43]
about building heights and the
[2:06:44]
buffer along old Kings Road
[2:06:50]
South. The application allows
[2:06:53]
structures up to 35 feet on 31
[2:06:53]
foot wide. Lots right up
[2:06:55]
against our neighborhood
[2:06:57]
boundary. That's a sharp jab
[2:07:01]
Primarily single story.
[2:07:02]
Single-family homes and after
[2:07:03]
the Planning Commission
[2:07:06]
hearing last week, the
[2:07:07]
applicant's representative
[2:07:08]
confirmed that the product is
[2:07:10]
intended to be single story.
[2:07:13]
Cottages across the whole
[2:07:15]
site. If that's the case and
[2:07:16]
we take him at his word, then
[2:07:17]
writing that commitment into
[2:07:20]
the pd language should be
[2:07:21]
straight forward. Single story
[2:07:22]
limit along our shared
[2:07:24]
boundary stepping up only on
[2:07:26]
the Far East side near Powers
[2:07:28]
Avenue, simply lack son, the
[2:07:31]
transition, the site plan
[2:07:33]
already implies it protects
[2:07:33]
existing neighborhood without
[2:07:35]
stopping the project. Second
[2:07:39]
is the buffer King's Road
[2:07:40]
South. We're asking for
[2:07:43]
continuity with what's already
[2:07:45]
there. Reclaim the school
[2:07:46]
break from the walls torn down
[2:07:48]
from the school and set the
[2:07:51]
bar for death. At 35 feet from
[2:07:55]
the right of way that matches
[2:07:55]
the established buffering
[2:07:57]
keeps the streetscape
[2:07:59]
consistent with more safety
[2:08:01]
and more safely. Walkable.
[2:08:03]
There's a practical website
[2:08:06]
too adaptive reuse credits are
[2:08:08]
available instead of
[2:08:08]
demolishing of the brick. You
[2:08:10]
can repurpose it and it's in
[2:08:14]
part of historic reuse
[2:08:16]
requirements that the
[2:08:16]
comprehensive plan is better
[2:08:17]
for the project, saves money
[2:08:19]
for the developer. Good idea.
[2:08:20]
Neither of these conditions
[2:08:23]
are unreasonable nor are they
[2:08:28]
anti development. But simply
[2:08:28]
make the pd match what the
[2:08:30]
applicant already described.
[2:08:32]
But we want you to see this
[2:08:34]
handout in your Binder that
[2:08:36]
talks about her neighborhood.
[2:08:38]
We levin 100 single-family
[2:08:42]
homes with rapidly. 26 52,650
[2:08:44]
residents and nearly 73% of
[2:08:46]
this town's are homestead. It
[2:08:50]
and owner occupied. So it's a
[2:08:51]
stable treeline data said in
[2:08:52]
your binder that I just shared
[2:08:54]
with you representing a full
[2:08:56]
long term resident base asking
[2:08:57]
for a reasonable transition.
[2:08:59]
Thank you.
[2:09:00]
>> Thank you. Last speakers,
[2:09:06]
Laura Baucus.
[2:09:10]
>> I'm Laura addresses on
[2:09:11]
file. I was talking about the
[2:09:11]
road condition King's Road
[2:09:16]
South. A curse for opposing 4,
[2:09:21]
7, 8 as written. A curse for
[2:09:23]
the new Housing Development
[2:09:24]
Bureau. King's Road South.
[2:09:27]
This is not the best solution
[2:09:29]
development on that property
[2:09:30]
could explore getting an
[2:09:32]
easement to Powers Avenue,
[2:09:33]
which is better designed for
[2:09:35]
the volume of traffic. 110
[2:09:38]
units could just generate and
[2:09:38]
have easier access to
[2:09:43]
multi-modal transportation.
[2:09:44]
Widening old Kings road south
[2:09:45]
in the section between Saint
[2:09:46]
Augustine Road and the
[2:09:47]
intersection with Powers
[2:09:49]
Avenue to meet current
[2:09:50]
collector roadway design
[2:09:53]
requirements could be required
[2:09:54]
according to the City Land
[2:09:57]
Development Procedure manual
[2:09:59]
vehicles. Excuse me, when
[2:10:01]
developments have a volume of
[2:10:02]
left turn and right turn
[2:10:03]
traffic that exceeds 20 to 30
[2:10:07]
vehicles per hour. They
[2:10:07]
recommend a specified storage
[2:10:10]
turning lane, windy necessary.
[2:10:10]
This would be a roadway
[2:10:12]
improvement that could be
[2:10:14]
required, according to the
[2:10:15]
independent assessment of
[2:10:17]
Traffic engineer, Alston
[2:10:20]
Chapman, current space
[2:10:22]
constraints are impossible to
[2:10:23]
overcome without potentially
[2:10:23]
seizing property adjacent
[2:10:27]
homeowners by eminent domain.
[2:10:28]
A possible solution has been
[2:10:29]
proposed by our neighborhood
[2:10:31]
still association. We're
[2:10:35]
approach ymca leadership.
[2:10:36]
Their property is also for
[2:10:36]
sale in a such a center. The
[2:10:39]
Kings Trail property and the
[2:10:39]
Duval County School board
[2:10:41]
representative for the Kings
[2:10:42]
Trail property about
[2:10:45]
requesting a shared easement
[2:10:46]
using an existing service road
[2:10:49]
at Wilson High School that
[2:10:50]
would allow Ingress and egress
[2:10:52]
for both properties via Powers
[2:10:55]
Avenue, the ability to provide
[2:10:56]
an access road that meets
[2:10:57]
current roadway. Design
[2:10:58]
standards is possible with
[2:11:02]
this solution. Ymca leadership
[2:11:03]
is interested as it would
[2:11:07]
enhance their ability to sell.
[2:11:08]
Jacksonville ordinance Code
[2:11:08]
also supports a solution like
[2:11:09]
this for easements and cross
[2:11:13]
access. There's been a recent
[2:11:14]
precedent that was set that
[2:11:16]
also supports a solution like
[2:11:18]
this ordinance, 0, 2, 5 Dash,
[2:11:21]
4, 4, 9 Dash for the Normandy
[2:11:25]
code p today included language
[2:11:25]
that made the rezoning
[2:11:28]
approval subject to conditions
[2:11:29]
it required the development to
[2:11:31]
secure an agreement with the
[2:11:32]
Duval County School Board for
[2:11:37]
Access to the property. And
[2:11:38]
specific roadway prior to the
[2:11:39]
first certificate of occupancy
[2:11:42]
or the functional equivalent,
[2:11:42]
a condition like this for
[2:11:45]
access on Powers Avenue, the
[2:11:47]
and the easement through 2
[2:11:49]
school board properties with
[2:11:50]
the agreement of the ymca is
[2:11:51]
our recommended solution.
[2:11:56]
Thank you.
[2:11:57]
>> Thank you, MR. Thank MR.
[2:11:57]
PRESIDENT, we have no more
[2:12:00]
speaker cards and 4.70
[2:12:01]
>> This public hearings close
[2:12:02]
additional public hearing be
[2:12:04]
held on AUGUST 11, 2026.
[2:12:05]
Moving back to the start of
[2:12:06]
our items on public hearings.
[2:12:09]
Page number 8.
[2:12:11]
>> Item number 8, 2026, 3, 7,
[2:12:14]
6, I have one Speaker card,
[2:12:15]
Florida. Look at Vice present
[2:12:17]
Carlucci is going to the green
[2:12:18]
Room for those from the
[2:12:18]
neighborhood who want to meet
[2:12:19]
him there regarding the last
[2:12:22]
2. Public hearings. We just
[2:12:23]
had MR. Noone e 3 minutes,
[2:12:32]
sir. The low.
[2:12:36]
>> I John philanthropic.
[2:12:36]
>> Good boy. Resiliency and
[2:12:42]
tangible. New knee. 83. 56
[2:12:43]
pass Cumru Jacksonville,
[2:12:45]
Florida, 3, 2, 2, 1, city
[2:12:45]
council district, 4 cpac, 3
[2:12:47]
school board district 3.
[2:12:50]
>> gosh. You know, this is
[2:12:53]
massive stuff. Home
[2:12:58]
occupations. Men sections, we
[2:12:59]
got a rural residential
[2:13:03]
category. Low density
[2:13:05]
residential category, medium
[2:13:07]
density residential category
[2:13:12]
high-density category. So part
[2:13:13]
be residential use categories
[2:13:17]
in zoning districts. Now this
[2:13:18]
is massive. It's in rules so
[2:13:23]
easy but not waterways. And
[2:13:26]
you know, the cpac Is it going
[2:13:32]
to go to the cpac And you The
[2:13:32]
reason I want to speak to
[2:13:37]
this. It gets back to the
[2:13:38]
quality of life throughout
[2:13:41]
this entire city. And then the
[2:13:48]
waterways component. Access.
[2:13:49]
And tell anybody else show
[2:13:50]
anyone. I think we're just
[2:13:53]
getting absolutely crushed. So
[2:13:56]
when you do increase this? In
[2:14:01]
every category. Keep in mind
[2:14:01]
are 67 counties in the state
[2:14:06]
of Florida. Our waterways.
[2:14:07]
He's one of the most critical
[2:14:13]
unifying. Features. You know,
[2:14:16]
I just wrote on a whole bunch
[2:14:17]
of different make Facebook
[2:14:20]
stuff like keep in mind. Like
[2:14:25]
we just had. The power lines
[2:14:26]
like a thing with the
[2:14:27]
Jacksonville, Florida, east
[2:14:30]
and the bill. Please. I am. I
[2:14:32]
mean, know, again, you know,
[2:14:38]
all all these home occupation
[2:14:38]
occupations, density
[2:14:42]
requirements. And it doesn't
[2:14:44]
matter what, whether jt it all
[2:14:49]
the independent authorities.
[2:14:50]
You know what? I want to just
[2:14:51]
focus on and what I hope this
[2:14:54]
council focuses on. This.
[2:14:58]
Remember that read Island.
[2:14:59]
Before we had public access.
[2:15:00]
Now, also not the bill,
[2:15:05]
please. MISTER T. Okay. Last
[2:15:06]
last time. Less time. Ok,
[2:15:12]
well, anyway. Wanted to bring
[2:15:14]
that what I just send it to
[2:15:15]
waterways. And then maybe that
[2:15:16]
discussion happened there. All
[2:15:16]
right. Thank you for
[2:15:19]
listening. Thank you, sir.
[2:15:20]
That's number. No more
[2:15:22]
speakers card. 3 sevens, this
[2:15:23]
public hearings continued to
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AUGUST 11, 2026. Page, 9 items
[2:15:30]
numbers, 9, 10 11 for 204, to
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one.
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>> 4, 3, I've no speaker
[2:15:36]
cards.
[2:15:40]
>> Number of the 2026, 0, 4, 2
[2:15:41]
2026, 0, 4, to one or
[2:15:41]
continued public hearings
[2:15:43]
continued to AUGUST 11, 20.
[2:15:44]
>> then item number 11, 2026.
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43 at most speaker. This
[2:15:47]
public hearing is closed.
[2:15:50]
Turning the page to item
[2:15:55]
number 12, 2026 forth. 8, 4,
[2:15:56]
and 4, 8, 5, actually I have
[2:15:56]
one speaker card or 45 hold
[2:15:59]
on. 44 of no speaker cards.
[2:16:02]
This public areas closed an
[2:16:03]
45? I have one speaker card
[2:16:09]
questions only. And Christian
[2:16:10]
Seeing no questions. This
[2:16:14]
public hearing closed. And
[2:16:16]
moving on out item 14, 2026,
[2:16:18]
5, 3, 3, I have one speaker
[2:16:20]
card, Jorge Gonzales, MR.
[2:16:34]
Gonzales. George One, 35 West
[2:16:37]
9th Street I don't have
[2:16:39]
anything over closer to
[2:16:40]
microphone. Please. I don't
[2:16:42]
have anything additional to
[2:16:43]
say. I just was If someone
[2:16:44]
needed any questions,
[2:16:45]
questions only get. Thank you,
[2:16:48]
I have no more cards and
[2:16:49]
seeing no questions. This
[2:16:52]
public hearing is closed.
[2:16:53]
We've got now a page. Have an
[2:16:55]
item. Number 5, 3 2026, 5, 3,
[2:16:56]
4. I have no speaker cards.
[2:16:59]
Public hearings closed item,
[2:17:03]
16, 2026, 5, 3, 5. I have one
[2:17:04]
speaker card. Jamie Travis
[2:17:08]
Leonard. Do you wish to speak?
[2:17:23]
MISS Leonard?
[2:17:36]
>> Good evening. City
[2:17:38]
COUNCILMAN Name is Jimmy
[2:17:39]
Travis entered my address is
[2:17:40]
on file. So when it comes to
[2:17:44]
26, 5, 3, 5, I do support this
[2:17:45]
ordinance. What I'm heading
[2:17:51]
out right now is the fdot
[2:17:51]
flyer on roundabouts. So my
[2:17:54]
only request is I don't know
[2:17:55]
could be applied technically
[2:17:56]
to this ordinance. But in the
[2:17:57]
future when we are expanding
[2:17:59]
some of our roadways,
[2:18:03]
roundabouts are the safest way
[2:18:07]
to integrate turning into that
[2:18:08]
when redeveloping roads, it is
[2:18:10]
safer for cars. It safer for
[2:18:12]
pedestrians. Also, as I
[2:18:13]
mentioned previously in public
[2:18:15]
comments, we don't have to
[2:18:18]
worry about people ignoring
[2:18:20]
safety in the rain outside of
[2:18:22]
what they're normally going to
[2:18:23]
do because roundabouts don't
[2:18:24]
require electricity, which
[2:18:25]
means when we have our
[2:18:26]
torrential downpours, they are
[2:18:30]
still functional. So my public
[2:18:33]
comments predominantly on a
[2:18:33]
potentially incorporating
[2:18:34]
roundabouts into at the turn
[2:18:36]
lanes. They're going to be the
[2:18:38]
subject of this bill, if
[2:18:40]
possible, if not, I understand
[2:18:41]
I kind of came at the end of
[2:18:42]
the process, but for the
[2:18:43]
future, I hope you guys
[2:18:44]
consider that when you are
[2:18:44]
looking to improve our
[2:18:47]
roadways. Thank you.
[2:18:48]
>> Thank you, ma'am. I have no
[2:18:51]
more speaker cards on 5, 3, 5,
[2:18:54]
The Spokane is closed item
[2:18:55]
number 17, 2026, 5, 3, 6, I
[2:18:59]
have no speaker cards. Public
[2:19:01]
areas closed. Turning the page
[2:19:02]
18 number 18, 2026, 5, 3, 7,
[2:19:08]
at 4 cards. Samantha Series.
[2:19:08]
By Jamie Travis Leonard,
[2:19:09]
followed by Nancy Marie
[2:19:12]
settled.
[2:19:15]
>> Samantha Series address on
[2:19:15]
file. This bill provides
[2:19:16]
forgiveness to Jacksonville
[2:19:19]
Fraternal Order of Police
[2:19:20]
Foundation. That'll be
[2:19:22]
Foundation received $200,000
[2:19:24]
City grant to support various
[2:19:26]
charitable and educational and
[2:19:26]
yet initiatives under the
[2:19:31]
fiscal year, 2024. 2025 City
[2:19:32]
Grant agreement sections. One
[2:19:35]
18.2 0, 1, 1, 18.2 0, 2, the
[2:19:36]
fop Foundation was required to
[2:19:38]
provide an audit. Report by
[2:19:41]
APRIL 30th 2026. For funds
[2:19:42]
received during its fiscal
[2:19:44]
year ending DECEMBER 31st.
[2:19:47]
2025 the fop Foundation
[2:19:48]
submitted a limited procedures
[2:19:49]
audit report that did not meet
[2:19:50]
the requirements and did not
[2:19:53]
provide required audit and was
[2:19:54]
there for a place on council
[2:19:56]
auditors chapter one, 18
[2:19:58]
non-compliance list on JUNE
[2:20:00]
12, 2026. Because that
[2:20:00]
placement renders ineligible
[2:20:02]
for the city grants. That is
[2:20:05]
why the fop Foundation is
[2:20:06]
requesting forgiveness.
[2:20:07]
Further noncompliance and
[2:20:07]
removal from the list. I do
[2:20:11]
not support this. I would like
[2:20:11]
to know if they are going to
[2:20:15]
provide an audit that does, in
[2:20:16]
fact, meet the requirements
[2:20:21]
that they need to meet. I
[2:20:22]
don't know about you guys, but
[2:20:22]
usually when an audit isn't
[2:20:26]
being met. Fraud is involved.
[2:20:28]
That's usually how it works.
[2:20:30]
If you are getting these
[2:20:30]
places, you and you're just
[2:20:35]
for giving them. Without
[2:20:37]
having any backup to any
[2:20:38]
reason that you're forgiving
[2:20:39]
them. You're just okay. Take a
[2:20:40]
marvelous. Give them more
[2:20:41]
money. Where's the money
[2:20:44]
going? Why can't they give us
[2:20:46]
an audit that actually meets
[2:20:48]
the requirements? They agree
[2:20:49]
to. They received money
[2:20:50]
$200,000. They said they were
[2:20:54]
going to give you an audit
[2:20:54]
that met the requirements for
[2:20:58]
the money that they received
[2:20:59]
it doesn't meet the
[2:21:00]
requirements. Why or why are
[2:21:02]
we just for giving this that
[2:21:03]
there needs to be discussion
[2:21:03]
about this? Are we getting in
[2:21:06]
on it? Because, again, that is
[2:21:08]
where fraud slips in. That is
[2:21:12]
when you see money's being
[2:21:13]
used that are not allowed to
[2:21:15]
be used for what they're being
[2:21:15]
used for. That's the only
[2:21:17]
reason why you wouldn't give
[2:21:18]
an audit because you don't
[2:21:19]
have the backing. You don't
[2:21:22]
have the receipts. That's
[2:21:23]
usually why not and isn't
[2:21:24]
being provided because you'll
[2:21:27]
have a full correct receipts.
[2:21:28]
I think we need audit. I think
[2:21:29]
you all need to discuss this
[2:21:33]
and I'm sure it's going to
[2:21:35]
pass. But honestly, it's
[2:21:38]
concerning that we're just
[2:21:38]
allowing forgiveness is for
[2:21:39]
things that are required to
[2:21:41]
have on its not have on it.
[2:21:42]
And I would think that you
[2:21:43]
guys would be concerned about
[2:21:43]
that. It's your it's the money
[2:21:47]
for our city. You know, our
[2:21:47]
budget coming up, we're
[2:21:49]
probably going to give them
[2:21:49]
another grant. We need to be
[2:21:52]
careful about this. Thank you.
[2:21:52]
>> Thanks. We have Jaime
[2:21:59]
Travers, Leonard.
[2:22:01]
>> Good Evening City Council.
[2:22:01]
My name is Jamie Travis
[2:22:04]
Leonard, my addresses on file
[2:22:08]
panic. So I also oppose 26, 5,
[2:22:10]
3, 7, I don't know if there's
[2:22:11]
like a miscommunication with
[2:22:12]
like what is being expressed
[2:22:13]
to the community. But from
[2:22:14]
what I've read based what
[2:22:15]
happened was p foundation
[2:22:18]
failed to meet their
[2:22:20]
obligations to provide audits
[2:22:21]
based on our ordinances. And
[2:22:25]
now they are asking for
[2:22:26]
forgiveness for that to
[2:22:26]
continue to receive public
[2:22:28]
funds. I know about you, but
[2:22:31]
if I fail to pay my taxes, the
[2:22:35]
irs doesn't just forgive me.
[2:22:36]
So I'm not sure why we would
[2:22:39]
even forgiveness. Now, if
[2:22:42]
maybe they were late and they
[2:22:44]
have finalized a and submitted
[2:22:45]
an audit that meets the
[2:22:47]
requirements. I can understand
[2:22:48]
if that happened, that
[2:22:51]
information's not communicated
[2:22:52]
in this. So there's a lack of
[2:22:53]
communication and transparency
[2:22:57]
with the public in that case.
[2:22:58]
At which point I MAY move to
[2:22:59]
support for this time. I
[2:22:59]
oppose based on the
[2:23:01]
information that was provided
[2:23:02]
in accordance with the bill
[2:23:07]
online. I don't even know
[2:23:08]
again. I'm not sure why would
[2:23:09]
entertain us if they aren't
[2:23:09]
meeting their out audit
[2:23:13]
obligations. We have those
[2:23:13]
ordinances for a reason. It's
[2:23:17]
checks and balances. I do. We
[2:23:18]
not have Duvall do jump in
[2:23:19]
here. They not questioning
[2:23:19]
this is not the whole thing is
[2:23:21]
a fine waste, fraud and abuse,
[2:23:22]
Oregon health care. It's big
[2:23:24]
deal. I'm assuming it's a big
[2:23:25]
deal for you all to pay
[2:23:28]
attention to that. So. Unless
[2:23:29]
there's and again, information
[2:23:30]
that hasn't been transparently
[2:23:32]
provided to the public. I
[2:23:32]
expect you all to not pass
[2:23:35]
this. Thank you.
[2:23:36]
>> Thanks for net. Nancy Marie
[2:23:44]
Settle.
[2:23:45]
>> Nancy Marie Settle
[2:23:47]
addresses on file again. I'm
[2:23:51]
sticking with my same theme
[2:23:53]
for today. I'm here to speak
[2:23:56]
about lawn order rules and
[2:24:00]
regulations. I oppose Bill
[2:24:01]
'05, 3, 7, to forgive the
[2:24:02]
Fraternal Order of Police for
[2:24:05]
Non compliance and audit team.
[2:24:06]
It should they should not be
[2:24:08]
forgiven. They broke a rule
[2:24:10]
and they should live with
[2:24:11]
those consequences. Law and
[2:24:14]
order. They are not above it.
[2:24:15]
When citizens here in council
[2:24:17]
break the rules by clapping
[2:24:18]
their costs down or even
[2:24:20]
worse. And again, in proposing
[2:24:21]
this ordinance, even the
[2:24:26]
hypocrisy is evident. It's
[2:24:27]
clapping in support of council
[2:24:31]
is good in Grace's given men.
[2:24:32]
Yet clapping in support of the
[2:24:34]
citizen that disagrees with
[2:24:34]
the council. That's bad and
[2:24:37]
must be punished.
[2:24:38]
>> Rules and regulations were
[2:24:39]
either going to follow them or
[2:24:41]
not.
[2:24:43]
>> And for the Fraternal Order
[2:24:45]
of police, they also need to
[2:24:50]
abide by those regulations.
[2:24:51]
Why? Why are we even why is it
[2:24:53]
out here? I mean, is it just
[2:24:55]
because they're the police?
[2:24:55]
And I mean, we give a lot of
[2:24:57]
money to police and we don't
[2:24:59]
and we have a police problem.
[2:25:03]
Inmates are dying. There is
[2:25:05]
slaw suits about police
[2:25:06]
brutality, but we don't
[2:25:07]
question and we continue in
[2:25:08]
the budget to give money. Is
[2:25:09]
it just because police is in
[2:25:14]
the name? We have a problem,
[2:25:15]
obviously with the Fraternal
[2:25:16]
Order of police, they did not
[2:25:18]
submit audited statements.
[2:25:19]
That's a requirement to be
[2:25:23]
able to receive city money
[2:25:24]
waivers, all these forgiveness
[2:25:26]
is are we going to just let
[2:25:26]
the fraternal order of police
[2:25:29]
off the hook as well? I say
[2:25:31]
no. They did not complete. The
[2:25:34]
audit is required and we want
[2:25:35]
to make more city money
[2:25:36]
available to them How does
[2:25:40]
that make sense? It doesn't it
[2:25:42]
would not be good stewardship
[2:25:43]
stewardship of our money.
[2:25:46]
Please vote no on Bill of 5,
[2:25:52]
3, 7,
[2:25:53]
>> They COUNCILMAN Johnson
[2:25:54]
would be glad to be with you.
[2:25:55]
And Robert on 3. That is we
[2:25:56]
just spoke. If you're
[2:25:57]
interested meeting with him.
[2:26:04]
MR. Johnson. There was a 4th
[2:26:07]
card on this item by Knee. He
[2:26:08]
opposes it but does not wish
[2:26:12]
to speak. It closes that
[2:26:14]
continue this public hearing
[2:26:16]
closed item 1920, 26, 5, 3, 8,
[2:26:18]
I have no speaker cards. This
[2:26:22]
public hearing is closed. Item
[2:26:23]
number 2020, 26, 5, 3, 9, have
[2:26:33]
one speaker card. John New
[2:26:34]
Below.
[2:26:38]
>> I am John Jay New
[2:26:40]
Jacksonville City Council
[2:26:41]
resolution 2023, 0, 1, 9, and
[2:26:42]
city Council district 4 cpac,
[2:26:44]
3 school board district 3. All
[2:26:45]
right. The reason I'm speaking
[2:26:49]
on this piece of legislation
[2:26:53]
are appropriating $115,000.
[2:26:54]
And 90 notes from the Duval
[2:26:56]
County tax collector. But
[2:27:00]
we've got 25,000. From the
[2:27:01]
Saint Johns River, Water
[2:27:05]
Management District. And so
[2:27:06]
it's going to be posted my
[2:27:09]
first thought Are we getting
[2:27:11]
managed to stand? I mean, the
[2:27:15]
water management district. You
[2:27:16]
know, I hope someone is here
[2:27:19]
to speak to that because
[2:27:21]
there's legislation feel that
[2:27:22]
another is stuff coming in the
[2:27:26]
next. But anyway. You know,
[2:27:27]
for just going to be just
[2:27:28]
moving some stuff around the
[2:27:31]
world management. You know, 25
[2:27:32]
k, you know that that's the
[2:27:36]
way. Then just let's let's get
[2:27:38]
ready to really open up our
[2:27:38]
waterways for some public
[2:27:40]
access. All right. Thank you
[2:27:42]
for listening. No more speaker
[2:27:45]
card 5 through 9.
[2:27:46]
>> This public areas closed
[2:27:50]
and 21 2026 5.40, no cards.
[2:27:51]
This public areas closed. I'm
[2:27:55]
22 23 on Page 14. 5, 4, 5, 4,
[2:27:57]
2, I have no cards. These
[2:28:01]
public hearings are closed. 59
[2:28:04]
24 2026, 5, 4, 3, I have no
[2:28:06]
cards. Public hearings closed
[2:28:07]
item. 25 2026 5, 5, 2, 2,
[2:28:12]
speaker cards. Jamie Travis
[2:28:13]
Leonard, who is in the Green
[2:28:20]
Room. But Below.
[2:28:24]
>> I and John Jay new
[2:28:24]
Jacksonville City Council
[2:28:27]
resolution 2023, 0, 8, 1, 9,
[2:28:29]
City Council district, 4 cpac,
[2:28:33]
3 school board district 3. And
[2:28:34]
this one bring water
[2:28:36]
management district in on
[2:28:38]
this. Okay, we're what we're
[2:28:41]
doing. 5, 2,
[2:28:42]
>> You know, this is in
[2:28:42]
neighborhoods, finance, but
[2:28:45]
but not in rules or waterways.
[2:28:49]
We're getting ready to get to.
[2:28:50]
>> Spend 1.6 million from the
[2:28:54]
general fund. And we're going
[2:28:55]
to be creating the
[2:28:55]
Jacksonville Riverfront
[2:29:00]
Alliance. So I will allow. You
[2:29:03]
know, and we're just wave and
[2:29:04]
everything. You know, we're
[2:29:05]
going to rule out for
[2:29:07]
direction contract waiving the
[2:29:08]
provisions advancement. I
[2:29:14]
mean. So anyway. You and at
[2:29:16]
this point, you know, I'm just
[2:29:19]
down to 2 minutes. Well, want
[2:29:20]
to share with the only real
[2:29:22]
marketing to the world? And
[2:29:25]
remember this legislative body
[2:29:31]
created. Trust funds. And so
[2:29:33]
rain here with this
[2:29:34]
legislation, which is part of
[2:29:36]
the permanent record. I am
[2:29:40]
making 2 donations. One is the
[2:29:42]
2026 0, 0, 0, 4, That's the
[2:29:44]
park's trust fund. The next
[2:29:49]
one. 2026, 0, 3, 9, 6, That's
[2:29:51]
the movie trust fund.
[2:29:53]
Spielberg calmly. You know
[2:29:58]
that a teen We're redoing it
[2:30:02]
but and I will bring this up
[2:30:07]
and donated. So here we have,
[2:30:09]
we're creating something Saint
[2:30:11]
Johns River ally. You know, a
[2:30:14]
pat on boat now. I mean, what
[2:30:17]
do we need to to do it this
[2:30:18]
year, creating a whole new
[2:30:23]
level. And it is. Understand
[2:30:26]
the 50 some seconds. But
[2:30:34]
again. You look at. Our
[2:30:36]
waterways and I will show
[2:30:37]
anybody when someone says you
[2:30:38]
think we're getting more act
[2:30:45]
were getting crushed. And so.
[2:30:50]
Yeah, 1.6 million. At the very
[2:30:55]
least. Send it to waterways.
[2:30:56]
And I hope I can understand
[2:30:59]
why it. There's people not
[2:31:00]
lined up to speak to this is
[2:31:02]
you only get one shot.
[2:31:03]
Speaking to a piece of
[2:31:04]
legislation. So in the
[2:31:08]
meantime, again, we're just
[2:31:09]
marketing to the world, the
[2:31:13]
free market. You know, and
[2:31:14]
just remember Pope Pottsburg
[2:31:18]
Creek Public Park. It connects
[2:31:21]
to downtown Jamie Travis
[2:31:21]
support this bill, but does
[2:31:22]
not wish to speak.
[2:31:27]
>> public areas closed. Rez.
[2:31:28]
Now it's time for public
[2:31:28]
hearings on land, use
[2:31:31]
amendments and companion
[2:31:32]
Rezonings and Matic Cations.
[2:31:34]
The comp plan beginning on
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Page 16. Item 2026. 26 1 to 2.
[2:31:42]
I have no speaker cards.
[2:31:42]
>> This public hearings
[2:31:46]
continued to AUGUST 11, 2026.
[2:31:48]
>> Item number 27. 26 1, 2, 3,
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I have one speaker card,
[2:31:50]
Samantha Series. Believe she's
[2:31:53]
in the Green Room. Does not
[2:31:56]
want speak and opposes this
[2:31:56]
item.
[2:31:57]
>> This public hearings
[2:32:00]
continue to AUGUST 11, 2026.
[2:32:01]
>> Item 2020. 21. 24 1.25 We
[2:32:05]
have no speaker cards.
[2:32:05]
>> These public hearings are
[2:32:06]
continuing to NOVEMBER 24th
[2:32:10]
2026.
[2:32:13]
>> I did have one speaker card
[2:32:14]
or one. 25 Smith. The series
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you does not wish to speak,
[2:32:15]
but you does oppose it.
[2:32:17]
>> Reopen the public. I
[2:32:21]
apologize. We're good. No, I
[2:32:24]
think I did a double dip.
[2:32:25]
>> MR. PRESIDENT would
[2:32:26]
probably be appropriate to
[2:32:27]
reopen the public hearing to
[2:32:28]
allow him to announce the
[2:32:29]
card. So it's on the record
[2:32:29]
for that hearing. And then
[2:32:32]
Bree continue it.
[2:32:33]
>> 2026, 0, 1, 2, 5, this
[2:32:36]
public hearings open, MR.
[2:32:37]
PRESIDENT, I do have one
[2:32:39]
speaker card to MISS Samantha
[2:32:40]
Series who opposes this
[2:32:41]
legislation because it does
[2:32:44]
not wish to speak. Thank you.
[2:32:45]
This public hearings continue
[2:32:49]
to NOVEMBER. 24 2026. Item
[2:32:51]
number 30 2026. 1, 2, 6, I
[2:32:54]
have one speaker card Samantha
[2:32:54]
Series who opposes but does
[2:32:58]
not wish to speak. Public
[2:32:59]
hearings continued to AUGUST
[2:33:04]
11, 2026. And item number. 31
[2:33:06]
2026, 1, 2, 7, Again, Samantha
[2:33:07]
Series opposes this
[2:33:09]
legislation. She does wish to
[2:33:12]
speak, which is not available.
[2:33:13]
In the Green series of you can
[2:33:18]
hear me. I have no more
[2:33:19]
speaker cards. This public
[2:33:20]
hearings continue to AUGUST
[2:33:23]
11, 2026. During the page
[2:33:29]
Item-number. Number. 32 2026.
[2:33:32]
4 to 2. I have 2 speaker
[2:33:32]
cards. We'll start with Randy
[2:33:40]
Baker. Questions on incorrect.
[2:33:40]
And MISS Series is still
[2:33:42]
locked up in the green Room so
[2:33:43]
we will close MR. PRESIDENT,
[2:33:45]
that's all I have seeing. No
[2:33:46]
speakers. We will close this
[2:33:49]
public hearing. Move the item
[2:33:53]
for 22. We have a motion and
[2:33:54]
second on the bill
[2:33:58]
Twenty-twenty 604, to 2.
[2:33:58]
Seeing no speakers in the
[2:33:59]
queue. It's open about a
[2:34:13]
quarter vote.
[2:34:19]
>> 15 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:34:22]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
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2, 2, passes. I'm 33 2026 for
[2:34:25]
2, 3. I have no speaker cards.
[2:34:26]
This public areas close to
[2:34:27]
move the bill. We have a
[2:34:29]
motion and second on the bill,
[2:34:30]
no speakers in the queue.
[2:34:44]
Let's open about a quarter
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>> 15 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:34:51]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[2:34:52]
2, 3, passes. I'm 34
[2:34:53]
Twenty-twenty 6, 4, 2, 4, no
[2:34:54]
speaker cards. This public
[2:34:56]
areas close the bill. We have
[2:34:58]
a motion and second on the
[2:34:59]
bill, no speakers incue open
[2:35:10]
about a quarter of it.
[2:35:13]
>> 15 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:35:14]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
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2, 4 is approved.
[2:35:18]
>> Turning the page item
[2:35:20]
number. 35 on 2026, 4 to 5. I
[2:35:22]
have no speaker cards. Public
[2:35:25]
areas close to move the
[2:35:25]
amendment.
[2:35:26]
>> We have a motion and the
[2:35:28]
second on the amendment. No
[2:35:29]
speakers will take this vote
[2:35:30]
verbally on favor of the
[2:35:32]
amendment indicate by saying
[2:35:33]
aye, all again saying no
[2:35:35]
amendment passes of the bill
[2:35:36]
as amended. We have a motion
[2:35:37]
and second on the bill as
[2:35:39]
amended. No speakers and q,
[2:35:40]
let's open the ballot record.
[2:35:54]
The vote.
[2:35:57]
>> 15 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:35:59]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[2:36:01]
to 5 passes. I'm 36 2026. 4 to
[2:36:03]
6. I have one Speaker card
[2:36:04]
brand diesel questions. Only
[2:36:06]
she supports the bill. Seeing
[2:36:07]
no questions. This public
[2:36:09]
areas develop. We have a
[2:36:11]
motion a second on the bill.
[2:36:12]
No speakers and about a
[2:36:27]
quarter vote.
[2:36:30]
>> 15 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:36:34]
>> By your vote 2026, 0, 4, to
[2:36:37]
6 passes item. 37. 26 4 to 7.
[2:36:38]
I have My question one card
[2:36:38]
question questions only to
[2:36:41]
support.
[2:36:44]
>> Seeing no speakers on the q
[2:36:45]
this public hearing closed the
[2:36:45]
bill. We have a motion and
[2:36:48]
second on the bill. Seeing no
[2:36:48]
speakers. It's open about a
[2:37:07]
quarter And a record of it.
[2:37:09]
>> 15 yeas, 0 nays by your
[2:37:10]
vote. 2026, 0, 4, to 7 days.
[2:37:12]
It's going to page 21 item
[2:37:15]
number. 38 2026. 4 to 8 at 5
[2:37:16]
speaker cards. The Collier
[2:37:17]
number ask you to come down to
[2:37:20]
the front and please be ready
[2:37:20]
come to the podium. First we
[2:37:23]
have Jamie Williams. Still
[2:37:32]
here. You know, you're Graham.
[2:37:39]
Al Stassi. Larry Stassi. And
[2:37:43]
Bishop Artie Grant. Whoever
[2:37:43]
wants to go first, please
[2:37:51]
identify yourself. Come on up.
[2:37:54]
>> My name is Jamie Jurors on
[2:37:55]
and the service director of
[2:37:58]
social services with the city
[2:37:59]
Rescue mission in 1995. That
[2:38:00]
graduated from Robert e Lee
[2:38:01]
has school now known as
[2:38:05]
Riverside High School. Having
[2:38:06]
spent my teenage years in the
[2:38:08]
Lackawanna, a Riverside
[2:38:09]
community. I have witnessed
[2:38:09]
both the strength challenges
[2:38:10]
that have shaped this
[2:38:14]
neighborhood over the years in
[2:38:16]
Begin my career with the city
[2:38:17]
rescue mission. The same year
[2:38:19]
the mission purchase to make
[2:38:20]
death campus. During my
[2:38:21]
tenure. I have worked all 3 of
[2:38:25]
our locations at the Restore
[2:38:25]
as State Street location,
[2:38:26]
which is called the New Life
[2:38:29]
Thing. And I think that campus
[2:38:30]
over the years I have had the
[2:38:31]
privilege of watching the
[2:38:33]
organization grow
[2:38:35]
significantly in the number of
[2:38:37]
services provided the best
[2:38:39]
outfit and the lives we've
[2:38:40]
been impacted as we towards
[2:38:44]
expanding, I'm Ybeth campus.
[2:38:46]
Reflect upon when many people
[2:38:47]
in the surrounding community
[2:38:47]
were unaware of the services.
[2:38:50]
We provide it for many years.
[2:38:51]
The city rescue mission
[2:38:53]
function as a community within
[2:38:54]
a community. The mission has
[2:38:56]
always been a safe haven and a
[2:38:59]
temporary home for individuals
[2:39:00]
facing significant life
[2:39:03]
changes complex barriers
[2:39:04]
throughout history. We have
[2:39:05]
worked hard to not be a
[2:39:07]
nuisance or a burden to the
[2:39:08]
community. Rather. We have
[2:39:11]
continue to be a valuable
[2:39:13]
community resource providing
[2:39:14]
hope, stability and support
[2:39:17]
support to those most in need
[2:39:18]
our policies. Programs and
[2:39:19]
expectations are got guided,
[2:39:21]
but grace and compassion,
[2:39:22]
which is why many of the men
[2:39:25]
and women we serve come to the
[2:39:27]
U.S. Staff and I services as
[2:39:29]
family. The growth of the city
[2:39:31]
rescue mission as Macbeth
[2:39:32]
service is truly a win-win for
[2:39:33]
our community because we're
[2:39:36]
help. We are helping return
[2:39:39]
transform men and women to
[2:39:40]
their families, return them to
[2:39:41]
their families, workplaces,
[2:39:45]
churches, and neighborhoods.
[2:39:45]
Adjective is not limited to
[2:39:48]
meeting in immediate need.
[2:39:49]
Rather. We focus on creating
[2:39:51]
lasting generational change
[2:39:52]
that produces a positive
[2:39:54]
impact throughout the
[2:39:56]
community. Thank you council
[2:39:57]
for your service to the
[2:39:59]
community and we appreciate
[2:40:00]
and pray for your support as
[2:40:01]
we continue deny that
[2:40:01]
endeavors. Thank you. Thank
[2:40:11]
you.
[2:40:12]
>> Good evening. My name is
[2:40:16]
Phil. You're Graham address on
[2:40:17]
recipient. All of the services
[2:40:19]
of seat off City Rescue
[2:40:21]
mission. I'm proud and I'm
[2:40:22]
proud to stand before you
[2:40:24]
today. As a grad city rescue
[2:40:28]
mission like program. Okay in
[2:40:28]
the city rescue mission at a
[2:40:30]
time when I was tagged along
[2:40:31]
disappointed in myself because
[2:40:35]
of choices I made. My drug
[2:40:36]
addition taking control of my
[2:40:37]
night life and I knew
[2:40:41]
something had to change. One
[2:40:42]
life wasn't always difficult.
[2:40:42]
In my early years, I was
[2:40:45]
surrounded by love. And
[2:40:47]
support my mother on a home
[2:40:49]
and a neighborhood store
[2:40:53]
family was, quote, I grew up
[2:40:54]
in the riverside like a woman
[2:40:55]
in Brooklyn communities here
[2:40:56]
in Jacksonville and 10 news
[2:40:58]
school on the West that life
[2:40:59]
changing. My older brother got
[2:41:03]
in trouble. The mother
[2:41:04]
sacrificed so much trying to
[2:41:05]
help and suv into the lost her
[2:41:07]
home in store. Has became
[2:41:08]
heart and eventually she sent
[2:41:09]
me to live with a family of
[2:41:12]
Noah. Because she could no
[2:41:15]
longer afford to care for me.
[2:41:15]
Not after that, I was
[2:41:19]
introduced to drugs from that
[2:41:19]
point like became a pool
[2:41:22]
Butler. Poor decisions,
[2:41:24]
addiction and missed
[2:41:24]
opportunities. Then I heard
[2:41:27]
about sea rescue mission. I I
[2:41:29]
knew it was in the community
[2:41:30]
because the state like a block
[2:41:34]
away but coming to the one the
[2:41:35]
city rescue mission, one of
[2:41:36]
the best decisions I ever made
[2:41:38]
here have found more to show
[2:41:41]
too afoul of found guidance.
[2:41:41]
Most importantly have found
[2:41:45]
the show. Do like to this
[2:41:46]
program? A discipline,
[2:41:49]
responsibility, accountability
[2:41:52]
and purpose. I just go down.
[2:41:53]
Cape will be leader and
[2:41:55]
positive influence on others.
[2:41:56]
Most importantly, I learned
[2:41:59]
that GOD never stopped loving
[2:42:00]
me today. A live approved.
[2:42:03]
That change is possible. The
[2:42:03]
city rescue mission didn't
[2:42:05]
just help my life. It changed
[2:42:07]
my story. Thank you. Thank
[2:42:08]
you, sir. Thank you for
[2:42:15]
sharing. MR. Brown. Good
[2:42:18]
evening. I'm local pastor and
[2:42:21]
the lack of Wana area and
[2:42:23]
>> personally seen many lives
[2:42:25]
changed over the years through
[2:42:26]
this program. So I do have my
[2:42:30]
full support.
[2:42:32]
>> MR. Brown MR. Brock, if you
[2:42:33]
again, just note that your
[2:42:33]
addresses on file, please.
[2:42:36]
>> Addresses on file. Thank
[2:42:36]
you, Sir. Thanks. We have Lori
[2:42:42]
Stassi.
[2:42:43]
>> My name is Lori Staff and
[2:42:45]
my addresses on file. I reside
[2:42:49]
in Riverside. I would like to
[2:42:50]
speak on behalf of City Rescue
[2:42:52]
mission as a volunteer for 10
[2:42:55]
years. 2 individuals had
[2:42:56]
spoken in recent concert in
[2:42:57]
previously about City Rescue
[2:42:58]
mission. And I would like to
[2:43:01]
give my perspective. I have
[2:43:03]
always felt safe on the
[2:43:04]
mission. Campuses when people
[2:43:05]
come to the mission for help,
[2:43:06]
they're ready to comply to the
[2:43:09]
rules and program
[2:43:11]
requirements. There's a fence
[2:43:12]
and security gate to limit
[2:43:13]
access and to make sure
[2:43:14]
troublemakers do not come on
[2:43:18]
campus. When people come in to
[2:43:19]
the program, they have been
[2:43:20]
wounded by the world and they
[2:43:24]
need to feel safe and secure.
[2:43:24]
It is a very loving family
[2:43:27]
like Christian environment.
[2:43:28]
The mission tries to present
[2:43:30]
well in the community by
[2:43:34]
keeping their buildings that
[2:43:34]
recently with a 1 million
[2:43:36]
Dollar grant, they began a
[2:43:36]
painting project and
[2:43:39]
installing new windows. They
[2:43:42]
keep their ground meat and
[2:43:42]
landscaped put in several
[2:43:44]
gardens for the residents to
[2:43:46]
enjoy. The hope is others in
[2:43:47]
the community would also keep
[2:43:50]
up their properties as well.
[2:43:50]
And we would be good
[2:43:55]
neighbors. Someone had raised
[2:43:57]
questions in the past about
[2:43:58]
increased traffic. Most of the
[2:43:59]
residents in our programs do
[2:44:01]
not own cars. They use public
[2:44:05]
transportation. Gradually as
[2:44:05]
they get on their feet and get
[2:44:08]
a job and become responsible
[2:44:10]
citizens. Some will purchase a
[2:44:11]
vehicle to aid in their goals
[2:44:14]
of living a productive life.
[2:44:16]
We are very proud of those who
[2:44:18]
accomplish this. But it is a
[2:44:19]
very limited amount of people
[2:44:22]
and certainly would not create
[2:44:26]
traffic jams in the area. But
[2:44:27]
if that were the case, I would
[2:44:28]
be extremely thrilled to have
[2:44:31]
that kind of success of
[2:44:33]
getting people off the streets
[2:44:34]
of Jacksonville and back to
[2:44:37]
living a beautiful life. Every
[2:44:40]
big city has homeless people
[2:44:41]
and individuals with drug
[2:44:43]
addiction and alcohol
[2:44:44]
problems. I am proud of how
[2:44:46]
city rescue mission has. 24
[2:44:47]
hour care so that the streets
[2:44:49]
around the mission are not
[2:44:53]
littered with encampments. I
[2:44:54]
see their work as a service to
[2:44:57]
the entire population by those
[2:44:57]
in need by helping those in
[2:45:01]
need. We have mothers who
[2:45:02]
would be sleeping in their car
[2:45:05]
if the mission weren't open.
[2:45:08]
We had a man who was a
[2:45:09]
self-proclaimed belligerent
[2:45:10]
drunk living on the sidewalk
[2:45:12]
in the West Side. Until
[2:45:15]
decided to get help. He met
[2:45:18]
Jesus and it was filled with
[2:45:21]
joy and he was transformed. We
[2:45:22]
have individuals who are
[2:45:24]
working functional alcoholics
[2:45:25]
until they couldn't keep up
[2:45:27]
the charade any longer. They
[2:45:29]
lost their jobs and they came
[2:45:32]
to us for help. We get people
[2:45:37]
from all over Jacksonville.
[2:45:37]
City rescue missions work is
[2:45:38]
extensive and having the
[2:45:40]
proper zoning would aid them
[2:45:42]
and their amazing work. Thank
[2:45:43]
you for voting. Yes.
[2:45:53]
>> Thank u next post se. Hi,
[2:45:54]
Paul. Stasi.
[2:45:54]
>> Executive Director City
[2:45:56]
Rescue Mission and address on
[2:45:56]
file.
[2:45:58]
>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT
[2:45:59]
members of Jacksonville
[2:46:01]
Council and everyone here
[2:46:06]
today in 1946, 3 businessman
[2:46:06]
in downtown walk the streets
[2:46:08]
carrying Thermos is of soup,
[2:46:13]
offering food, compassion and
[2:46:14]
hope 2 people who had nowhere
[2:46:18]
else to turn that could never
[2:46:18]
have imagined that their
[2:46:19]
simple act of kindness would
[2:46:22]
become city rescue mission. A
[2:46:24]
ministry that has faithfully
[2:46:26]
served Jacksonville for 80
[2:46:28]
years Today. City Rescue
[2:46:28]
mission provides meals,
[2:46:31]
shelter, addiction recovery,
[2:46:32]
transitional housing workforce
[2:46:36]
development and medical and
[2:46:37]
dental care. Every day we see
[2:46:38]
lives transformed. As you
[2:46:39]
heard as people move from
[2:46:42]
homelessness to housing from
[2:46:46]
addiction to recovery from
[2:46:46]
unemployment to meaningful
[2:46:48]
work and from despair to hope.
[2:46:50]
None of that would happen
[2:46:52]
without a place where healing
[2:46:55]
can begin. Today. I'm not
[2:46:59]
asking for funding. I'm simply
[2:47:01]
asking for the ability to
[2:47:03]
better utilize our property at
[2:47:07]
the mcduff campus, which City
[2:47:08]
Rescue mission has owned and
[2:47:11]
operated for nearly 30 years.
[2:47:12]
This rezoning does not change
[2:47:15]
who we are or our mission is
[2:47:16]
simply allows us to Stuart,
[2:47:19]
our existing campus more
[2:47:20]
effectively and meet the
[2:47:22]
growing needs of Jacksonville
[2:47:23]
for 3 decades. We have work to
[2:47:25]
be good neighbors. Our campus
[2:47:28]
is professionally maintain
[2:47:31]
staffed. 24 hours a day and
[2:47:34]
committed to being a safe
[2:47:35]
positive presidents.
[2:47:35]
Presidents in the Lackawanna
[2:47:37]
and North Riverside
[2:47:38]
communities. We believe that's
[2:47:40]
serving our neighbors also
[2:47:42]
means being a good neighbor.
[2:47:47]
Earlier this year, this
[2:47:48]
council on or city rescue
[2:47:49]
missions. 80th anniversary
[2:47:53]
with a resolution sponsored by
[2:47:56]
COUNCILMAN Johnson recognizing
[2:47:57]
are decades of service to
[2:47:59]
Jacksonville. We are deeply
[2:48:03]
grateful because it affirmed
[2:48:04]
our partnership that has
[2:48:06]
existed between the city and
[2:48:09]
the mission for generations.
[2:48:11]
We understand that there might
[2:48:12]
be questions that were raised
[2:48:13]
through this process and
[2:48:15]
respect the opportunity for
[2:48:20]
them but are record stands by
[2:48:21]
itself. Past performance is
[2:48:22]
one of the strongest
[2:48:22]
predictors of future
[2:48:27]
performance. These years. We
[2:48:29]
have operated both campuses
[2:48:30]
responsibly safely and in
[2:48:32]
partnership with the
[2:48:34]
community. This rezoning
[2:48:36]
simply allows us to continue
[2:48:37]
doing what we've already
[2:48:38]
demonstrated that we can do
[2:48:41]
well, we respectfully ask for
[2:48:43]
your support. So the city
[2:48:44]
rescue mission can continue
[2:48:45]
transforming lives,
[2:48:47]
strengthening families and
[2:48:47]
serving Jacksonville for
[2:48:50]
another 80 years. Thank you.
[2:48:51]
MR. PRESIDENT number speaker
[2:48:52]
cards, this public areas
[2:48:55]
closed. I moved the bill. We
[2:48:55]
have a motion and second on
[2:48:58]
the bill. No speakers in the
[2:48:59]
queue. Let's open about a
[2:49:09]
quarter. But
[2:49:12]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:49:16]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[2:49:18]
2, 8, passes item number. 39,
[2:49:19]
40 2020 for 2020, 26, 4, 2, 9,
[2:49:19]
I have one speaker card.
[2:49:27]
MISTER Stassi. Paul Stasi,
[2:49:27]
executive Director City Rescue
[2:49:29]
Mission address on file again.
[2:49:31]
Thank you. PRESIDENT Howland
[2:49:35]
and members of City Council
[2:49:36]
Jacksonville is facing an
[2:49:40]
affordable housing crisis.
[2:49:42]
Everyday City rescue mission
[2:49:43]
helps people overcome
[2:49:43]
homelessness addiction.
[2:49:46]
Another life challenges. But
[2:49:47]
too often when they're ready
[2:49:49]
to move forward, they cannot
[2:49:50]
find housing that's
[2:49:54]
affordable. We are asking for
[2:49:56]
your support to build studio
[2:49:58]
apartments on the Hunt Street
[2:50:01]
portion of our existing 6 acre
[2:50:02]
campus along with the other
[2:50:04]
things that are in this bill.
[2:50:06]
This is not new for the
[2:50:09]
mission. It is the next step.
[2:50:13]
In a proven one for more than
[2:50:13]
10 years, we have successfully
[2:50:16]
operated transitional housing
[2:50:17]
that helps people move from
[2:50:20]
homelessness to independence.
[2:50:21]
This project simply creates
[2:50:22]
more opportunities for people
[2:50:26]
to have. Who have already done
[2:50:27]
the hard work of rebuilding
[2:50:31]
their lives. There MAY be
[2:50:32]
questions about traffic in
[2:50:35]
height of the building. The
[2:50:36]
reality is most of our
[2:50:39]
residents, as you heard, don't
[2:50:39]
have vehicles traffic impact
[2:50:42]
is minimal. And we already
[2:50:45]
have a 4 story building on our
[2:50:48]
campus. So this proposal is
[2:50:49]
consistent with what exists
[2:50:53]
today and has for years.
[2:50:57]
Consider what currently lines
[2:50:57]
the section of Edison Street,
[2:51:01]
which should be the the
[2:51:03]
backyard of this section where
[2:51:06]
we're looking to add
[2:51:07]
apartments. It's a j. A parcel
[2:51:11]
of vacant lot. A boarded-up
[2:51:12]
house, which actually since
[2:51:15]
the law's committee last week,
[2:51:16]
I've been in no negotiation
[2:51:16]
with the owner to purchase
[2:51:20]
ourselves. And then another
[2:51:21]
vacant home. That is
[2:51:22]
reportedly occupied by
[2:51:25]
squatters. Instead of vacant
[2:51:26]
properties. And boy, we want
[2:51:29]
to offer safe, well-managed
[2:51:31]
housing, attractive,
[2:51:33]
landscaping and a campus that
[2:51:34]
continues to serve both its
[2:51:35]
residents and the surrounding
[2:51:39]
neighborhood. We are investing
[2:51:40]
in this community because we
[2:51:43]
believe it deserves better.
[2:51:44]
This request is not about
[2:51:45]
changing who city rescue
[2:51:47]
mission is. It's about
[2:51:48]
allowing us to do more. But
[2:51:51]
what we have faithfully done
[2:51:52]
for the last 80 years, helping
[2:51:55]
people move from crisis
[2:51:57]
stability, dependence to
[2:51:58]
independence and homelessness
[2:52:01]
to home. I respectfully ask
[2:52:04]
for your support of this Bill.
[2:52:05]
Thank you. It spreads. We have
[2:52:07]
no more cards in 2026. For
[2:52:07]
tonight. This public areas
[2:52:10]
closed, moved the bill. We
[2:52:10]
have a motion and second on
[2:52:11]
the bill recognize Ms
[2:52:19]
Kirchner. Thank you, chair. I
[2:52:21]
rushed to declare ex parte. It
[2:52:24]
was deep deep in now.
[2:52:27]
>> And Paul Stasi beginning on
[2:52:31]
MARCH 18th that this year and
[2:52:32]
Stephen, out on JUNE 25th of
[2:52:38]
this year. Are discussion was
[2:52:41]
primarily what the applicant
[2:52:42]
wanted to do in regards to
[2:52:44]
zoning change and which which
[2:52:47]
was primarily to bring all of
[2:52:48]
the parcels and buildings
[2:52:52]
under one zoning. And that has
[2:52:55]
been filed with legislative
[2:52:57]
services. Additionally, I met
[2:52:58]
with the Laney and Paul Stasi
[2:53:02]
on JUNE. 16th. At the North
[2:53:04]
Riverside Community Center
[2:53:06]
doing there neighborhood
[2:53:08]
meeting and once again, they
[2:53:09]
explain the reason for the
[2:53:11]
zoning. The proposed
[2:53:11]
construction for the Syrians,
[2:53:15]
vision for the next 20 years.
[2:53:16]
Lastly, I met with Robert Free
[2:53:20]
Lake on JUNE 23rd here at City
[2:53:22]
Council and he just expressed
[2:53:25]
his concerns in regards to the
[2:53:26]
rezoning and all of this has
[2:53:27]
been filed with legislative
[2:53:29]
services. Thank you.
[2:53:30]
>> All right. Thank you,
[2:53:31]
ma'am. We have no other
[2:53:32]
speakers in the queue. We have
[2:53:33]
a motion and second on the
[2:53:34]
bill open about a quarter
[2:53:47]
vote.
[2:53:48]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays by your
[2:53:52]
vote. 2026 0. 49 is approved.
[2:53:55]
>> now page number. 22 items
[2:53:57]
number 40 41 2026. 4.30, for
[2:54:00]
31. I have no speaker cards.
[2:54:01]
>> These public hearings are
[2:54:05]
continued to AUGUST 11, 2026.
[2:54:06]
>> Item number 40 to 2026, 4,
[2:54:09]
3, 2, I have 2 speaker cards.
[2:54:10]
Questions only Travis. Our jv
[2:54:12]
travel. And Jamie Travis
[2:54:13]
Leonard supports and Christian
[2:54:14]
Re questions on She supports
[2:54:19]
as well. No speakers in the
[2:54:20]
queue. This public areas close
[2:54:21]
to move the We have a motion
[2:54:22]
and second on the bill.
[2:54:23]
>> No speakers about a quarter
[2:54:33]
of
[2:54:36]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:54:38]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 4,
[2:54:41]
3, 2 passes 23 on its number.
[2:54:45]
43 2026. 0, 4, 3, 3, I've 2
[2:54:46]
speaker cards. Jamie Travis
[2:54:48]
Leonard, who wants to speak on
[2:54:49]
this. And Kristen Reed
[2:54:50]
questions only supports the
[2:54:58]
bill. This letter.
[2:54:59]
>> Good evening. City
[2:55:01]
COUNCILMAN Is Jamey madrassas
[2:55:01]
about. I'll be quick for this.
[2:55:02]
I do support this ordinance.
[2:55:05]
Earliest wanted to come up.
[2:55:08]
And say that I appreciated the
[2:55:09]
developer and the owner and
[2:55:13]
how planning and really
[2:55:14]
community thought they put
[2:55:18]
into this proposal. I was at
[2:55:19]
they'll use the meeting where
[2:55:20]
it was presented and you could
[2:55:23]
really tell that they. Took
[2:55:24]
into account not only their
[2:55:25]
needs, but also the needs of
[2:55:26]
the community around them and
[2:55:28]
how what they're proposing
[2:55:31]
could impact that community. I
[2:55:32]
hope to see more proposals
[2:55:33]
like this where they really
[2:55:36]
are working with us to ensure
[2:55:36]
that what they're giving us
[2:55:39]
not only meets their needs,
[2:55:40]
uplift the community, but also
[2:55:41]
is in conjunction with the
[2:55:43]
area. They're in versus what
[2:55:46]
we are seeing more and more
[2:55:47]
where there is friction
[2:55:49]
between developers and the
[2:55:53]
community at large. Thank you.
[2:55:54]
>> And Nomar speaker cards
[2:55:58]
this public hearing is closed.
[2:55:59]
I'm 44 2026, 4, 7, 5, I
[2:56:00]
actually we have a I'm sorry,
[2:56:03]
move the amendment.
[2:56:05]
>> We have motion and second
[2:56:06]
on the amendment, seeing those
[2:56:07]
speakers in the queue will
[2:56:08]
take the vote fairly all in
[2:56:08]
favor of the amendment
[2:56:09]
indicate by saying Aye, again
[2:56:11]
saying No, the amendment
[2:56:12]
passes move the bill as
[2:56:13]
amended. We have a motion and
[2:56:16]
second on the bill as amended.
[2:56:17]
No speakers incudes open about
[2:56:30]
a quarter
[2:56:32]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays by your
[2:56:34]
vote. 2026, 0, 4, 3, 3, is
[2:56:37]
approved. Item number. 44,
[2:56:40]
2026, 4, 7, 5, 1, 1, speaker
[2:56:41]
card, Samantha Series.
[2:56:42]
Questions only comment know
[2:56:42]
could not does not wish to
[2:56:46]
speak, but does oppose. I see
[2:56:46]
no speakers for questions.
[2:56:48]
This public hearing is closed
[2:56:50]
actually additional public
[2:56:53]
hearing. We held on AUGUST 11,
[2:56:55]
2026. Item number. 45.0? 26 4,
[2:56:58]
7, 6, I have no speaker cards.
[2:56:59]
Public hearings close. An
[2:57:00]
additional public hearing will
[2:57:02]
be held AUGUST 11, 2026. We
[2:57:04]
started taking up items. 46 47
[2:57:06]
moving on now to item number.
[2:57:09]
48 2026, 4, 7, 9, I have 3
[2:57:12]
speaker cards. I believe this.
[2:57:17]
Rags. Charlene Corbett, altar.
[2:57:20]
>> And Trevor Peters all do
[2:57:22]
not wish to speak.
[2:57:25]
>> All support. This public
[2:57:29]
hearing closed. An additional
[2:57:30]
public we've held held on
[2:57:35]
AUGUST. 11th 2026. Items.
[2:57:38]
Number 4, 49 2026 do I have?
[2:57:41]
>> The same 3 folks. Simon
[2:57:46]
Ross. So Ron Corbett.
[2:57:47]
>> Walker and Trevor Peters do
[2:57:49]
not wish to speak. But do you
[2:57:53]
support this bill? This public
[2:57:54]
areas close an additional
[2:57:55]
public. It will be held
[2:57:58]
AUGUST. 11th 2026.
[2:57:58]
>> Items number 15. 51. I can
[2:58:02]
do that. Yes, 2026. 41 42. I
[2:58:05]
have no speaker cards. These
[2:58:06]
public hearings are close.
[2:58:07]
Additional public hearings
[2:58:08]
will be held on AUGUST. 11th
[2:58:11]
2026.
[2:58:12]
>> As it happens, MR.
[2:58:15]
PRESIDENT there there are no
[2:58:16]
3rd reading resolutions today
[2:58:16]
as we move on to the ordinance
[2:58:18]
is beginning on page. 26 for
[2:58:19]
members of our audience, these
[2:58:22]
bills of r d at the public
[2:58:23]
hearings with a final
[2:58:25]
committee. Parts are now ready
[2:58:26]
for full council action. Our
[2:58:28]
first item is number 52 2026.
[2:58:32]
3, 1, 9, I move the amendment.
[2:58:33]
>> We have a motion and second
[2:58:33]
on the amendment. We have no
[2:58:35]
speakers in the queue. Let's
[2:58:36]
vote early all in favor of the
[2:58:37]
amendment indicate by saying
[2:58:38]
Aye, aye, all again. The
[2:58:40]
amendment passes bill as
[2:58:41]
amended. We have a motion and
[2:58:44]
second on the bill as amended.
[2:58:45]
Those speakers in the Open
[2:58:56]
about a quarter vote.
[2:59:00]
>> 17 yeas, 0 Your vote. 2026,
[2:59:01]
0, 3, 1, 9, passes.
[2:59:03]
>> on page. 23. I'm 53. 2023
[2:59:05]
2026, 4, 4, 5, and with the
[2:59:05]
amendment.
[2:59:06]
>> We have a motion and second
[2:59:09]
on the amendment. No speakers
[2:59:10]
in the queue. Let's vote early
[2:59:12]
on favor indicate by saying
[2:59:15]
aye again saying no amendment
[2:59:15]
passes.
[2:59:16]
>> I moved the bill as amended
[2:59:16]
requires that regards a
[2:59:18]
two-thirds vote.
[2:59:19]
>> We have a motion and second
[2:59:22]
on the bill as amended. No
[2:59:22]
speakers in the queue. Let's
[2:59:37]
open about record votes.
[2:59:46]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[2:59:47]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[2:59:50]
4, 5, passes. Item number 50
[2:59:53]
for 2026, 4, 4, 8, move. The
[2:59:53]
amendment.
[2:59:54]
>> We have a motion and second
[2:59:56]
on the amendment, seeing no
[2:59:57]
speakers in the queue. Let's
[2:59:58]
vote early on favor indicate
[3:00:02]
by saying Aye, again saying
[3:00:03]
bill as amended, we have a
[3:00:03]
motion a second on the bill as
[3:00:06]
amended. No speakers. It's
[3:00:18]
open the ballot for the vote.
[3:00:21]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:00:24]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:00:25]
4, 8, passes. Moving on now to
[3:00:26]
page. 28 item number. 55,
[3:00:29]
2026, 4, 4, 9, and move the
[3:00:29]
amendment.
[3:00:30]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:00:31]
on the amendment. No speakers
[3:00:33]
in the queue of overly all in
[3:00:34]
favor of the amendment
[3:00:34]
indicate by saying Aye, aye,
[3:00:38]
all again saying no.
[3:00:39]
>> The amendment passes move
[3:00:43]
the bill as amended. We have a
[3:00:43]
motion a second on the bill as
[3:00:44]
amended open about, of course,
[3:00:53]
about.
[3:00:56]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:01:00]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:01:01]
4, 9, passes.
[3:01:04]
>> Item number 56, 2026. 0. 49
[3:01:04]
believe there's a motion a
[3:01:06]
floor amendment. Her Sunday.
[3:01:07]
There is a me a call on Mr So
[3:01:10]
please.
[3:01:11]
>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT.
[3:01:13]
I'm going to move to withdraw
[3:01:14]
this bill. I believe that
[3:01:15]
through some of the
[3:01:16]
conversations that we've had
[3:01:18]
in committee seems like
[3:01:19]
there's a little bit of a
[3:01:20]
disagreement about the purpose
[3:01:21]
of this bill is in process has
[3:01:23]
been the hrc. Happy to come
[3:01:24]
back with a better bill later
[3:01:29]
on. So move to withdraw. We
[3:01:32]
have a motion and the second
[3:01:33]
to withdraw Twenty-twenty 6,
[3:01:33]
0, 4, 8, 9, and everyone
[3:01:34]
you're getting a floor mat and
[3:01:36]
that's for a bill to from now.
[3:01:37]
So the motion here on the
[3:01:38]
table is to withdraw. Nothing
[3:01:39]
to do with the floor You're
[3:01:40]
getting seeing those speakers
[3:01:44]
on the queue. Let's open the
[3:01:44]
ballot and record your vote.
[3:01:53]
Yes, is a withdrawal.
[3:02:02]
>> Welcome back.
[3:02:03]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:02:07]
>> By your action, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:02:10]
8, 9 is withdrawn.
[3:02:12]
>> Item number 57 on Page. 29
[3:02:14]
2026, 4, 9, 0, move the
[3:02:15]
Amendment.
[3:02:16]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:02:18]
on the amendment. We'll take
[3:02:18]
this vote verbally all in
[3:02:19]
favor of the amendment
[3:02:21]
indicate by saying Aye, again
[3:02:22]
saying No, the amendment
[3:02:26]
passes the bill as amended. We
[3:02:26]
have a motion second on the
[3:02:27]
bill as amended before we
[3:02:27]
vote. All recognize
[3:02:35]
mistreatment. To the chair to
[3:02:37]
out of abundance caution.
[3:02:38]
>> I work at the Clara White
[3:02:42]
Mission in. My staff MAY be
[3:02:43]
partnering with someone that
[3:02:44]
MAY be receiving this. So I
[3:02:45]
just want to make sure
[3:02:47]
paperwork is already been.
[3:02:48]
Signed and submitted. Thank
[3:02:50]
you. Thank you. MISS A
[3:02:54]
payment. No other speakers in
[3:02:54]
the queue.
[3:02:55]
>> We have a motion and the
[3:02:56]
second on the bill as amended
[3:02:56]
its open them out the
[3:03:11]
courtroom.
[3:03:48]
>> 16 yeas, 0 nays. One
[3:03:48]
abstention.
[3:03:51]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 4,
[3:03:52]
4, 9, 0, passes. Before we
[3:03:53]
move on Pittman, you just want
[3:03:53]
to say for the record that you
[3:03:54]
abstain from the amendment as
[3:03:59]
well.
[3:04:00]
>> Chair I was supposed to do
[3:04:04]
that on 58 instead of 57. So I
[3:04:05]
do apologize.
[3:04:06]
>> Okay. Well, you just
[3:04:07]
abstain. You don't want to
[3:04:09]
reopen the voting. I do. Or do
[3:04:09]
Would you like to reopen need
[3:04:15]
to do? We? Learn lets, you
[3:04:16]
know, letting kids from Mary
[3:04:16]
what you think I should do.
[3:04:21]
Apologize. Yap stand on the
[3:04:22]
wrong going at on 57 instead
[3:04:27]
of 58. I apologize. All right.
[3:04:29]
No problem gives a second
[3:04:30]
area. See if you have to vote
[3:04:44]
on.
[3:04:45]
Out of abundance of
[3:04:46]
caution, we could just move to
[3:05:00]
reconsider.
[3:05:05]
>> Through the PRESIDENT To
[3:05:05]
Councilmember Pittman, this is
[3:05:06]
for the Home Investment
[3:05:08]
partnership Don't believe that
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you have traditionally And
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that's what I said at my
[3:05:14]
recommendation, MR. PRESIDENT
[3:05:15]
of says if somebody who was
[3:05:18]
thank you and we can then take
[3:05:19]
a vote on the reconsideration,
[3:05:19]
assuming it passes, you would
[3:05:24]
just need to move in second
[3:05:24]
the Mariners your time and
[3:05:26]
just move to reconsider.
[3:05:26]
Twenty-twenty 6, 0, 4, 9, 0,
[3:05:27]
And I heard a second from Dr
[3:05:29]
Johnson. So we have a motion.
[3:05:31]
>> Now let's and 10 entertain
[3:05:33]
a but mostly Rican voter.
[3:05:35]
We've over Leon, the
[3:05:35]
reconsideration. Yep. So we'll
[3:05:38]
take a verbal vote on them
[3:05:38]
motion to reconsider all in
[3:05:40]
favor indicate by saying Aye,
[3:05:43]
again same know the motion to
[3:05:45]
reconsider passes and MR.
[3:05:45]
Floor leader with Young case
[3:05:46]
around. Let's go ahead and
[3:05:49]
move the amendment on 2026, 4,
[3:05:49]
9, 0,
[3:05:50]
>> All right. We have a motion
[3:05:51]
a second on the amendments,
[3:05:52]
take the vote verbally on
[3:05:53]
favor of the amendment
[3:05:55]
indicate by saying Aye again
[3:05:55]
saying No. The amendment
[3:05:56]
passes now moved the bill as
[3:05:57]
amended. We have a motion and
[3:05:58]
the second on the bill as
[3:06:01]
amended. Seeing no speakers
[3:06:02]
incue. It's open to the ballot
[3:06:10]
Cordova.
[3:06:13]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:06:18]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:06:19]
9, 0, passes. Item number 50,
[3:06:20]
a twenty-twenty 6 for 9, I was
[3:06:22]
under recognized misspent.
[3:06:23]
Yes, sir. Thank you all.
[3:06:24]
Recognize COUNCILWOMAN Pittman
[3:06:31]
on 2026, 0, 4, 9, 1, please.
[3:06:31]
>> Thank you, CHAIRMAN The
[3:06:34]
right one. I'd like to abstain
[3:06:39]
from 4.91 due to me working at
[3:06:40]
the Clara White Mission and
[3:06:41]
some of the staff MAY apply
[3:06:43]
with the partnership. But
[3:06:45]
another to say thank you.
[3:06:46]
>> Thank you, ma'am. All
[3:06:52]
turned to MR. Carrico. Former
[3:06:53]
Council isn't here thank you,
[3:06:54]
MR. PRESIDENT I rise to
[3:06:55]
abstain from this legislation
[3:06:56]
out of an abundance of caution
[3:06:57]
as my employer, the boys,
[3:06:58]
girls clubs of Northeast
[3:07:02]
Florida has received cdbg
[3:07:03]
grants in the past and see
[3:07:05]
them. The future actually not
[3:07:06]
listed as recipient of these
[3:07:08]
funds, but I just feel name of
[3:07:09]
transparency in caution tape
[3:07:10]
saying for many cdbg
[3:07:11]
legislation. So I will be of
[3:07:13]
saying thank you. Thank you,
[3:07:14]
sir. And now I will recognize
[3:07:18]
council incluso. Thank you,
[3:07:19]
MR. PRESIDENT like to offer a
[3:07:20]
floor amendment. I'm going to
[3:07:21]
have missed a populous.
[3:07:27]
Explain if you'd like.
[3:07:28]
>> Thank you. Through the
[3:07:30]
PRESIDENT Of the council. So
[3:07:32]
the Floor amendment
[3:07:33]
encompasses the committee
[3:07:34]
amendment which is listed on
[3:07:35]
the blue sheet, but it adds a
[3:07:36]
couple of additional technical
[3:07:38]
corrections for the bill and
[3:07:39]
attaches a revised exhibit
[3:07:41]
one, which is the bt to
[3:07:42]
correct the revenue and
[3:07:43]
expense amount for sidewalks
[3:07:47]
to 500,000 and correct. The
[3:07:47]
revenue and expense amount for
[3:07:48]
the Edward Waters University
[3:07:51]
Project to $200,000 and
[3:07:52]
changes that expense account
[3:07:54]
code code. It also attaches a
[3:07:55]
second revised exhibit 2,
[3:07:56]
which is the schedules of
[3:07:59]
funding to correct the amounts
[3:08:01]
and remove the Edward Waters
[3:08:01]
University project from the
[3:08:05]
included in Cip category to
[3:08:06]
the not included in Cip
[3:08:06]
category on page 2 of the
[3:08:11]
schedules. Just want to get a
[3:08:12]
second on that. If you haven't
[3:08:12]
already missed, I heard a
[3:08:15]
second. Anything else, MR.
[3:08:15]
Putin.
[3:08:16]
>> All right. We have a motion
[3:08:18]
and second on the floor
[3:08:19]
amendment before we take a
[3:08:20]
vote on Doctor Salem,
[3:08:24]
recognized.
[3:08:25]
>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT
[3:08:28]
just heard Ed Waters
[3:08:28]
University mention a couple of
[3:08:29]
times. So they on board with
[3:08:30]
these changes just to make
[3:08:34]
sure.
[3:08:35]
>> Through the chair to
[3:08:36]
Councilmember Salem and I I
[3:08:37]
will let this river MISTER
[3:08:37]
Peterson, correct me if I'm
[3:08:38]
wrong. But I think the issue
[3:08:41]
was there was a believe at the
[3:08:42]
time that with the bill as
[3:08:43]
originally filed, that they
[3:08:45]
were on the project was going
[3:08:46]
to be on city-owned property
[3:08:48]
and it's not city on property.
[3:08:48]
It's private property. So it
[3:08:52]
can't be listed under our cip.
[3:08:52]
So I let MISS Revert address
[3:08:53]
any additional detail for
[3:08:56]
that. MISTER, recognized.
[3:08:57]
>> Through the chair to
[3:08:58]
Councilmember Salem, yes, we
[3:08:59]
had to remove it from the cip
[3:09:01]
because it's not city-owned
[3:09:03]
property. So that's why we're
[3:09:03]
moving it into the other
[3:09:05]
category of non Cip project.
[3:09:08]
>> So it really has no impact
[3:09:09]
upon.
[3:09:09]
>> It has no impact. It's the
[3:09:10]
same dollar amount that they
[3:09:13]
were going to receive.
[3:09:15]
>> Previously, thank you so
[3:09:16]
much all right, MR. Layden
[3:09:19]
here. Okay. Donna McHugh.
[3:09:20]
>> Great. Then we have motion
[3:09:23]
a second on the floor
[3:09:24]
amendment will take this vote
[3:09:25]
verbally on favor of the flu.
[3:09:26]
So floor amendment indicate by
[3:09:29]
saying again saying No,
[3:09:29]
amendment passes.
[3:09:32]
>> bill as amended. We have a
[3:09:34]
motion and second on the bill
[3:09:35]
as amended. No speakers in the
[3:09:35]
queue. Let's open the ballot,
[3:09:50]
of course of
[3:09:51]
>> 16 yeas, 0 nays. 2
[3:09:54]
abstentions.
[3:09:56]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 4,
[3:09:58]
9, one passes. Moving on to
[3:10:00]
page 30 item number, 59, 2026,
[3:10:02]
4, 9, 2, move the amendment.
[3:10:04]
We have a motion and second on
[3:10:05]
the amendment.
[3:10:06]
>> No speakers in the queue.
[3:10:06]
Let's take this vote fairly
[3:10:07]
all in favor of the amendment
[3:10:10]
indicate by saying Aye, again
[3:10:11]
say no. The amendment passes
[3:10:13]
move the bill as amended. We
[3:10:13]
have a motion and second on
[3:10:17]
the bill as amended. There are
[3:10:17]
no speakers. It's open about
[3:10:28]
equipment. You're not as we.
[3:10:30]
>> Your invasive.
[3:10:33]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:10:36]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:10:37]
9, 2, passes. Thank you, MR.
[3:10:37]
PRESIDENT. Didn't want to get
[3:10:41]
in the weeds on that one. When
[3:10:42]
I had to had to say. But at
[3:10:45]
the
[3:10:46]
>> That was an invasive and of
[3:10:49]
noxious like it. 60 2026, 4,
[3:10:52]
9, with the amendment.
[3:10:52]
>> We have a motion in second
[3:10:56]
on the amendment. No speakers
[3:10:56]
will take this vote all in
[3:10:57]
favor of the amendment
[3:10:59]
indicate by saying Aye, I
[3:11:02]
again say no amendment passes.
[3:11:03]
>> The bill as amended
[3:11:05]
requiring it to 3 vote.
[3:11:05]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:11:07]
on the bill as amended. No
[3:11:22]
speakers. It's open about
[3:11:25]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:11:29]
>> And by your vote, 2026, 0,
[3:11:30]
4, 9, 3, s page number. 31
[3:11:31]
item, 61, 2026, 4, 9, 4, move
[3:11:34]
the amendment.
[3:11:35]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:11:37]
on the amendment. No speakers
[3:11:37]
in the queue was overly all in
[3:11:38]
favor of the amendment
[3:11:41]
indicate by saying Aye, I
[3:11:41]
again say no. The amendment
[3:11:42]
passed some of the bill as
[3:11:43]
amended a motion a second on
[3:11:45]
the bill as amended. No
[3:11:45]
speakers that's open them out
[3:11:54]
of court.
[3:11:58]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:11:59]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:12:02]
9, 4, passes. Item. 62
[3:12:03]
Twenty-twenty 6, 4, 9, 5, I
[3:12:08]
move the amendment.
[3:12:09]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:12:11]
on the amendment. Before we
[3:12:12]
move on, did we located? We're
[3:12:14]
back on 62. All right. We have
[3:12:15]
a motion and second on the
[3:12:17]
Amendment. Twenty-twenty 6, 0,
[3:12:18]
4, 9, 5, We have MR. Diamond,
[3:12:21]
before you on the amendment.
[3:12:22]
You want to speak back on
[3:12:26]
2026, 0, 4, 9, 4. Come on.
[3:12:28]
Well, we have a motion
[3:12:29]
compass. Is a comment. Okay?
[3:12:29]
It's going yet. No. I just
[3:12:31]
wanted to thank Eric Tucker
[3:12:32]
for our work and all this ada
[3:12:33]
compliance up which has been
[3:12:34]
the entire department over
[3:12:34]
there. They've done really
[3:12:36]
good work and if you all, she?
[3:12:38]
She lost her dad a month ago.
[3:12:40]
Austin mom, 6 months ago when
[3:12:41]
she still soldiering on
[3:12:43]
helping literally anyone in
[3:12:44]
the city whose who has a new
[3:12:47]
challenges. And so, you know,
[3:12:48]
I just want to send all are
[3:12:49]
allowed to care as she's
[3:12:50]
literally at work today after
[3:12:51]
all this stuff, thank you, MR.
[3:12:58]
Down. All right. We have a
[3:12:59]
motion a second on the
[3:13:01]
amendment for 2026, 0, 4, 9,
[3:13:03]
5, no speakers on the q. Let's
[3:13:05]
take this vote verbally all in
[3:13:06]
favor of the amendment
[3:13:06]
indicate by saying aye again,
[3:13:09]
say no. Amendment passes the
[3:13:12]
bill as amended. We have a
[3:13:12]
motion and second on the bill
[3:13:14]
as amended. There are no
[3:13:15]
speakers that's open about the
[3:13:25]
court.
[3:13:28]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:13:29]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 4,
[3:13:32]
9, 5, passes.
[3:13:34]
>> Turn to page. 32 item
[3:13:37]
number 63. 26 4, 9, 7, before
[3:13:38]
I move the amendment. I think
[3:13:39]
we need to recognize
[3:13:40]
Councilmember Pat MISS
[3:13:45]
Pittman. You are recognized.
[3:13:46]
To the again at light to
[3:13:49]
abstain from this one in the
[3:13:50]
next one.
[3:13:51]
>> I am employed at the Clara
[3:13:54]
White Mission in some of my
[3:13:55]
staff. Maybe applied in
[3:13:56]
partnership with another
[3:13:58]
agency in providing service to
[3:14:01]
individuals with 8. Thank you.
[3:14:02]
And the paperwork has been
[3:14:05]
signed. Thank you, ma'am.
[3:14:05]
>> No other ex parte Taser
[3:14:08]
exemptions just for clarity as
[3:14:09]
she is standing only on 4, 9,
[3:14:10]
7 right now, only 4, 0, 4, 9,
[3:14:14]
7, With the amendment.
[3:14:15]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:14:18]
on the amendment. No speakers.
[3:14:19]
Let's take this vote virtually
[3:14:19]
all in favor of the amendment
[3:14:23]
indicate by saying Aye. Again,
[3:14:24]
say no, the amendment passes
[3:14:25]
as amended. We have a motion
[3:14:27]
and second on the bill as
[3:14:28]
amended, no speakers. Let's
[3:14:43]
open about a quarter of
[3:15:10]
>> 16 yeas, 0 nays. One
[3:15:10]
abstention.
[3:15:12]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 4,
[3:15:17]
9, 7, passes. I care for 2026,
[3:15:21]
4, 9, 8, move the amendment.
[3:15:22]
We have a motion and the
[3:15:23]
second on the amendments, no
[3:15:27]
speakers in the queue. Let's
[3:15:28]
take this vote. Probably all
[3:15:29]
in favor of the amendment
[3:15:31]
indicate by saying Aye, I
[3:15:32]
again say no. The amendment
[3:15:34]
passes the bill as amended it.
[3:15:34]
We have a motion a second on
[3:15:37]
the bill as amended. No
[3:15:38]
speakers in the queue. So put
[3:15:50]
them out of court. A vote.
[3:15:55]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:15:57]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 4,
[3:16:01]
9, 9, 8, passes.
[3:16:02]
>> page. 33 item number 65
[3:16:03]
Twenty-twenty. 6, 4, 9, 9,
[3:16:04]
this time. I think we do
[3:16:06]
Recognize councilmember
[3:16:06]
pavement.
[3:16:06]
>> Misfit when you're
[3:16:12]
recognized. How much show
[3:16:14]
tonight? Again, I'd like
[3:16:14]
abstain because the Clara
[3:16:18]
White missions serve clients
[3:16:18]
and we've already submitted
[3:16:21]
the paperwork for this. And
[3:16:22]
thank you. Thank you know,
[3:16:25]
Nelson que.
[3:16:28]
>> Move with the amendment.
[3:16:29]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:16:32]
on the amendment. No one's on
[3:16:32]
the q. Let's take this vote
[3:16:33]
verbally all in favor of the
[3:16:34]
amendment indicate by saying
[3:16:35]
Aye, I again say know in the
[3:16:37]
past.
[3:16:40]
>> Moved the bill as amended.
[3:16:40]
We have a motion and second on
[3:16:43]
the bill as amended. No
[3:16:44]
speakers in the queue it up in
[3:16:56]
about a quarter of
[3:16:59]
>> 17 yeas, 0 nays. One
[3:17:00]
abstention.
[3:17:04]
>> By your vote 2026, 0, 4, 9,
[3:17:04]
9, passes. This PRESIDENT. We
[3:17:06]
have 5 resolutions and
[3:17:07]
ordinances are in second
[3:17:08]
reading and 10 ordinance on
[3:17:09]
second reading.
[3:17:10]
>> Although none of these
[3:17:11]
items will be taking up. 71 to
[3:17:13]
my colleagues, there is an
[3:17:14]
opportunity for public
[3:17:16]
participation regarding for
[3:17:16]
the resolutions, MR. Taylor,
[3:17:17]
would you please read the
[3:17:23]
Bills?
[3:17:26]
>> 2026. 5. 44 5. 45 5? 46. 5.
[3:17:33]
47 5.48 5. 23. 5. 24 5. 25 5.
[3:17:37]
26 5. 27 5. 28 5. 29 5, 35. 31
[3:17:39]
5.32 given. We have no public
[3:17:40]
participate. Can patient
[3:17:42]
cards, participation cards.
[3:17:43]
>> We now move on to the
[3:17:45]
introduction first reading
[3:17:46]
resolution to Norges
[3:17:48]
ordinances beginning on page.
[3:17:50]
38 starting with item number
[3:17:54]
anyone. 2026? 500. There are
[3:17:55]
no public participation car.
[3:17:57]
So I move the emergency.
[3:17:58]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:18:02]
on the emergency. Seeing no
[3:18:02]
speakers in the queue will
[3:18:03]
take this vote virtually all
[3:18:04]
in favor of the emergency
[3:18:05]
indicate by saying Aye, I
[3:18:09]
again say no emergency passes.
[3:18:10]
>> Again, I should note
[3:18:11]
they're no cards for this one.
[3:18:12]
So I will move the bill as an
[3:18:14]
emergency.
[3:18:15]
>> We have a motion and the
[3:18:16]
second on the bill as an
[3:18:17]
emergency. And I believe at
[3:18:17]
this point, MR. Petersen, you
[3:18:20]
would like to. We did. You you
[3:18:26]
would like to speak.
[3:18:27]
>> Through the present to the
[3:18:28]
council so that this bill has
[3:18:29]
moved is an emergency tonight
[3:18:29]
to notify the property
[3:18:32]
appraiser by AUGUST 4th of the
[3:18:35]
city's rollback rate. The
[3:18:36]
proposed millage rates for the
[3:18:37]
upcoming budget which are
[3:18:38]
staying the same as last
[3:18:41]
year's council approve rates.
[3:18:41]
And then also the SEPTEMBER
[3:18:43]
8th public hearing that will
[3:18:45]
occur where the public will
[3:18:45]
get to come and talk to you
[3:18:48]
about the mileage rates. This
[3:18:50]
just as I said, keep the rates
[3:18:52]
the same as last year. It does
[3:18:52]
set the high water mark for
[3:18:55]
the mileage rates for the
[3:18:57]
proposed years. So from this
[3:18:58]
point forward Finance
[3:18:59]
Committee and the council can
[3:19:01]
lower the millage rate. But
[3:19:02]
after tonight, it's nearly
[3:19:03]
impossible to raise the
[3:19:04]
mileage rate above what you
[3:19:08]
approve tonight.
[3:19:10]
>> All right. Thank you, MR.
[3:19:11]
Petersen. So we have a motion
[3:19:13]
and second on the bill as an
[3:19:15]
emergency, we have no other
[3:19:15]
speakers in the queue. Let's
[3:19:30]
open about, of course.
[3:19:35]
>> 17 yeas, one nay.
[3:19:36]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 5,
[3:19:39]
0, 0 is approved.
[3:19:40]
>> All right. Now moving on
[3:19:44]
now to page. 39 item number 87
[3:19:44]
Twenty-twenty 6, 5, 9, 6. I
[3:19:46]
move the emergency. We have a
[3:19:47]
motion and a second on the
[3:19:52]
emergency. Seeing no one in
[3:19:52]
the queue. Let's take this
[3:19:53]
vote verbally all in favor of
[3:19:55]
emergency indicate by saying
[3:19:55]
Aye.
[3:19:56]
>> I again say emergency
[3:19:58]
passes. Move the bill as an
[3:20:01]
emergency.
[3:20:02]
>> I have no Does this one
[3:20:08]
other than mine? I suspect MR.
[3:20:08]
Sheriff, I'm Mike. Before we
[3:20:09]
take a vote on this one, I
[3:20:11]
just want to make a comment. I
[3:20:13]
really appreciate this is my
[3:20:14]
7th year serving on the
[3:20:15]
canvassing board. I can tell
[3:20:15]
you there's more important job
[3:20:16]
that I've had during my tenure
[3:20:20]
on the council. Somewhat
[3:20:21]
disconcerting to we had logic
[3:20:24]
and accuracy test last Friday.
[3:20:25]
It was learned at that point
[3:20:26]
in time that the number of
[3:20:27]
mail-in ballots has dropped
[3:20:30]
dramatically. I'm concerned
[3:20:31]
about the prospect of that. I
[3:20:35]
want to constituents out there
[3:20:35]
the due diligence that I and
[3:20:37]
the other members of the
[3:20:38]
canvassing in coming over
[3:20:42]
those balances. The if it's a
[3:20:43]
matter of convenience for you,
[3:20:43]
it's also a matter of
[3:20:44]
importance that you take the
[3:20:46]
time to vote and do so by
[3:20:48]
ballot is still viable way to
[3:20:52]
work. So thank you, MR.
[3:20:53]
>> Do we have motion on the
[3:20:55]
bill as emergency with the
[3:20:56]
second? We do, we do. All
[3:20:58]
right with the motion and
[3:20:59]
second on the bills, emergency
[3:21:00]
on the table and no other
[3:21:01]
speakers that's open about a
[3:21:11]
quarter point.
[3:21:14]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:21:16]
>> By your vote approve
[3:21:18]
Twenty-twenty 6, 0, 5, 9, 6,
[3:21:22]
page, 40 item. 91 2026. 600
[3:21:23]
movie emergency.
[3:21:24]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:21:25]
on the emergency. No speakers.
[3:21:26]
Let's take this vote early on
[3:21:27]
favor of the emergency
[3:21:28]
indicate by saying Aye, again
[3:21:32]
saying no emergency passes.
[3:21:33]
>> And no public participation
[3:21:34]
cards on this. Once I move it
[3:21:36]
as an emergency.
[3:21:37]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:21:38]
on the bill as an emergency.
[3:21:39]
No speakers and soak in the
[3:21:48]
Valley court vote.
[3:21:51]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:21:54]
>> By a vote. 2026, 0, 6, 0,
[3:21:54]
0, passes.
[3:21:55]
>> Moving on now to number. 98
[3:22:01]
on page. 41 2026. 607. A move.
[3:22:02]
The emergency.
[3:22:02]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:22:04]
on the emergency. No speakers
[3:22:05]
was vote verbally all in favor
[3:22:06]
of the emergency indicate by
[3:22:07]
saying Aye, aye again saying
[3:22:11]
no passes.
[3:22:12]
>> I moved. I have no public
[3:22:12]
participation cards on this.
[3:22:15]
Once I moved emergency.
[3:22:16]
>> We have a motion a second
[3:22:17]
on the bill as an emergency.
[3:22:18]
No speakers that's open about
[3:22:22]
a quarter of a
[3:22:36]
>> some people when 16.
[3:22:39]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:22:43]
>> By your vote. 2026, 0, 6,
[3:22:44]
0, 7, passes present. There
[3:22:46]
are 2 first reading ordinance
[3:22:46]
ordinances to be taking up
[3:22:47]
this evening. The first can be
[3:22:49]
found Page. 53 on a number.
[3:22:53]
>> One, 36 2026, 5, 6, 8, Move
[3:22:57]
the emergency.
[3:22:59]
>> All right. We have a motion
[3:23:01]
and a second on the emergency.
[3:23:02]
Again, it's item number one.
[3:23:05]
36 2026, 0, 5, 6, 8, You'll
[3:23:11]
find it on Page. 53. I have no
[3:23:11]
speakers on the emergency will
[3:23:12]
take the vote verbally all in
[3:23:13]
favor of the emergency
[3:23:14]
indicate by saying Aye, again
[3:23:18]
saying no mercy passes.
[3:23:19]
>> I have no participation
[3:23:19]
guards and this one. We will
[3:23:22]
go ahead and move it as an
[3:23:22]
emergency.
[3:23:23]
>> We have a motion and second
[3:23:25]
on the bill as an emergency.
[3:23:26]
Mary, would you mind just
[3:23:29]
explaining what this bill
[3:23:32]
>> Yes, thank you. Through the
[3:23:33]
PRESIDENT To the council. So
[3:23:34]
this legislation would
[3:23:35]
reschedule the Finance
[3:23:37]
Committee Tu use e committee
[3:23:38]
meetings that are regularly
[3:23:40]
scheduled for Tuesday. AUGUST
[3:23:44]
18th 2 Wednesday, AUGUST 19th.
[3:23:44]
Has the 18th is the date of
[3:23:47]
the primary election and it
[3:23:50]
will also rescheduled the
[3:23:51]
finance to you. And use
[3:23:54]
committee meetings of Tuesday,
[3:23:55]
NOVEMBER 3rd, 2 Wednesday,
[3:23:57]
NOVEMBER 4th, so that the
[3:23:59]
general election, which occurs
[3:24:01]
on the 3rd can be observed by
[3:24:02]
individuals who might want to
[3:24:03]
attend to that versus
[3:24:03]
attending Count Council
[3:24:06]
committee meeting. So this is
[3:24:08]
an adjustment that the council
[3:24:09]
makes with the with the
[3:24:10]
election dates fall on
[3:24:12]
committee or council days. So
[3:24:12]
it's in keeping with past
[3:24:15]
practice of the city Council.
[3:24:16]
>> Thank you, Mary. And
[3:24:18]
there's a companion bill or a
[3:24:19]
related bill running through
[3:24:21]
that schedules. Reschedules
[3:24:22]
meetings for MAY of next year.
[3:24:25]
As I understand
[3:24:26]
>> Yes, MISTER PRESIDENT, that
[3:24:27]
one was not done as an
[3:24:29]
emergency, but there is a bill
[3:24:30]
item one. 37 on the agenda
[3:24:33]
that would reschedule finance
[3:24:34]
to eu and land use and zoning
[3:24:34]
on that are currently
[3:24:36]
scheduled for Tuesday. MAY
[3:24:39]
18th to Wednesday MAY 19th in
[3:24:40]
observance of the election
[3:24:43]
date that would occur on MAY
[3:24:44]
18th. And it also just
[3:24:47]
acknowledges the council rules
[3:24:47]
already provide that when a
[3:24:48]
regular meeting of the council
[3:24:51]
occurs on Election Day that
[3:24:51]
that is an automatic
[3:24:53]
rescheduling to the next day.
[3:24:55]
So while the bill doesn't
[3:24:55]
accomplish that because the
[3:24:57]
rules would automatically do
[3:24:59]
that, it does acknowledge that
[3:25:00]
of another opportunity through
[3:25:01]
this legislation want to get
[3:25:02]
noticed that the public be
[3:25:03]
made aware of that additional
[3:25:06]
change.
[3:25:07]
>> Thank you very much. We
[3:25:07]
have a motion and the second
[3:25:10]
on the bill is an emergency. I
[3:25:11]
see no speakers that's open
[3:25:22]
about, course. But
[3:25:25]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:25:28]
>> By your vote, 2026, 0, 5,
[3:25:29]
6, 8,
[3:25:30]
>> present before we move on
[3:25:35]
to the agenda item number 1,
[3:25:36]
5, 9 on page, 63, 2026, 5, 9,
[3:25:38]
1, happens to be a duplicate
[3:25:42]
of Bill item. Number 14, 2026
[3:25:43]
0, 5, 4, in order to dispose
[3:25:46]
of the duplication. I move
[3:25:47]
that we withdraw Twenty-twenty
[3:25:50]
6, 5, 9, 1, and I need a
[3:25:50]
second.
[3:25:51]
>> We have a motion and the
[3:25:54]
second to a draw 2026. 0, 5,
[3:25:58]
9, As you said, it is
[3:25:58]
duplicative. There's a bill
[3:25:59]
that is exactly the same
[3:26:02]
earlier on the agenda. I see
[3:26:04]
no speakers in the queue.
[3:26:04]
Let's open the ballot and
[3:26:13]
record your vote to a draw.
[3:26:17]
>> 18 yeas, 0 nays.
[3:26:17]
>> By Euro Twenty-twenty 6, 0,
[3:26:20]
5, 9, one is withdrawn. This
[3:26:21]
present. We have 2 additional
[3:26:24]
items to that and I move the
[3:26:25]
We have a motion and second on
[3:26:26]
the addendum. This is also a
[3:26:29]
voice vote. All in favor of
[3:26:29]
hearing the and approving the
[3:26:31]
and indicate by saying Aye, I
[3:26:34]
again say no. The addendum
[3:26:37]
passes item number one, 60
[3:26:39]
pursuant to council 4.1, 0, 0,
[3:26:40]
1,
[3:26:41]
>> We now take up the matter
[3:26:42]
of the mayor's veto of
[3:26:46]
ordinance 2025 8, 7, 2, I move
[3:26:47]
it. Be prove approved. Not
[3:26:48]
withstanding the veto of the
[3:26:52]
mayor.
[3:26:53]
>> All right. We have a
[3:26:56]
motion. And second, the floor
[3:26:57]
leaders motion is to approve
[3:27:00]
ordinance 2025, 0, 8, 7, 2,
[3:27:01]
notwithstanding the veto of
[3:27:01]
the mayor which has been in.
[3:27:02]
Of course, that's been
[3:27:05]
seconded. The question posed
[3:27:06]
to everyone tonight for
[3:27:07]
consideration is as follows.
[3:27:10]
Quote, Shell ordinance 2025 0,
[3:27:13]
8, 7, to be adopted and become
[3:27:13]
effective. Not withstanding
[3:27:17]
the veto of the mayor. We'll
[3:27:18]
open up the floor to for
[3:27:18]
debate in the queues lining
[3:27:23]
up. MR. Your first. Thank you,
[3:27:24]
MR. PRESIDENT, thank you for
[3:27:25]
recognizing me. First. I want
[3:27:27]
to clarify voting no on this.
[3:27:29]
>> Basically supports the
[3:27:32]
mayor and ensures that this
[3:27:33]
fetal remains MR. Papa skews
[3:27:35]
clarifies the voting no. Is
[3:27:38]
the right thing to do.
[3:27:39]
Correct?
[3:27:41]
>> I MR. PRESIDENT, would you
[3:27:42]
like me to address that?
[3:27:44]
Please do. Okay. So the motion
[3:27:47]
on the floor is to approve
[3:27:49]
ordinance 2025 8, 7, 2,
[3:27:50]
notwithstanding the veto of
[3:27:51]
the mayor. So if you pressed
[3:27:55]
Green or yes, that is a vote
[3:27:55]
to override the veto of the
[3:27:57]
mayor and approved the
[3:27:58]
ordinance. If you press and
[3:28:02]
read or no, that is a vote to
[3:28:04]
sustain the mayor's veto and
[3:28:07]
defeat ordinance 2025 8, 7, 2,
[3:28:08]
>> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT,
[3:28:09]
thank you, MR. Populous. I
[3:28:11]
mean, we've had this debate
[3:28:12]
numerous times. Let's just get
[3:28:13]
out of here this evening. Vote
[3:28:15]
no vote no on this stupid
[3:28:16]
process. We actually really
[3:28:18]
shouldn't be here. But
[3:28:19]
regardless of why we are vote
[3:28:22]
now. Thank you. Thank you,
[3:28:27]
sir. Recognize DR. Salem.
[3:28:28]
Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I'll
[3:28:29]
just make a few points. Some
[3:28:34]
of which made before MR.
[3:28:34]
Packer indicated when we first
[3:28:37]
got into this, you want to get
[3:28:38]
this right.
[3:28:39]
>> I entertained several past
[3:28:41]
General counsel's to talk to
[3:28:44]
him as well pass experts in
[3:28:45]
our government. They convinced
[3:28:46]
him that we have the authority
[3:28:47]
to make appointments to these
[3:28:50]
to these boards. That had been
[3:28:55]
the policy. For 55 years in
[3:28:57]
this city. Up until when Mayor
[3:28:59]
De gun came in Mr, Faculty
[3:29:00]
became the general counsel.
[3:29:02]
This is nothing new. And I
[3:29:04]
want to make emphasize that
[3:29:08]
point why these 2 boards kha,
[3:29:09]
as I've said before, there are
[3:29:11]
all sorts of issues with k j
[3:29:12]
their budget approaches
[3:29:13]
60 million dollars. We should
[3:29:14]
have been put into those more
[3:29:18]
positions. The library board
[3:29:20]
again, 40 plus million
[3:29:21]
dollars. We should have
[3:29:26]
appointments to that board.
[3:29:28]
This. This bill respects the
[3:29:28]
strong mayor will form of our
[3:29:33]
government. We get 3 on Kha
[3:29:36]
and on the library board.
[3:29:37]
Those appointments occur as
[3:29:40]
people come off the board.
[3:29:42]
This in no way, shape or form
[3:29:43]
disrupts those boards or
[3:29:47]
anything similar to that. The
[3:29:48]
council present were only get
[3:29:49]
an appointment as people come
[3:29:54]
off those boards. Couple of
[3:29:56]
things that I've heard
[3:29:57]
discussed or taking power away
[3:30:01]
from the mayor. This mayor.
[3:30:02]
This bill isn't just for the
[3:30:04]
next year while Mayor de get
[3:30:07]
as mayor, this bill goes on
[3:30:08]
past that. It goes past my
[3:30:11]
tenure on this council. This
[3:30:12]
is a permanent change to these
[3:30:17]
boards. Its the question is,
[3:30:18]
should the city council have a
[3:30:19]
point to boards? We have the
[3:30:24]
authority. We voted for this
[3:30:25]
it past. Now we have to
[3:30:26]
override this veto to want to
[3:30:32]
maintain that. We are cold. We
[3:30:33]
are a co-equal branch of this
[3:30:34]
government and I feel strongly
[3:30:35]
we should have these
[3:30:42]
appointments. This bill is
[3:30:43]
similar to the Downtown
[3:30:45]
Investment Authority iaa. Our
[3:30:46]
PRESIDENT Has an appointment
[3:30:49]
to the bia board that he has
[3:30:51]
because that board is shared.
[3:30:52]
He will get those who will
[3:30:53]
have that appointment coming
[3:30:55]
up. So in summary, this bill
[3:30:58]
is not disruptive. It is
[3:30:59]
consistent with this
[3:31:03]
government. For the past 55
[3:31:06]
years, other than the last 3,
[3:31:07]
i believe we should have
[3:31:09]
appointments to this board as
[3:31:11]
we do with iea. And I
[3:31:12]
encourage you to vote yes on
[3:31:17]
this ordinance. Thank you.
[3:31:17]
Thank you. Doctor Salem over
[3:31:21]
to counsel I think MR.
[3:31:22]
PRESIDENT Counselor Salem
[3:31:24]
touched on the budget. Like I
[3:31:25]
said up with this kind the
[3:31:26]
first time, that was my
[3:31:27]
biggest motivation for voting.
[3:31:27]
Yes on this because I do want
[3:31:31]
us to have more input on this.
[3:31:32]
>> If you go back just 4
[3:31:35]
years, cages, budget has going
[3:31:37]
from 35 to 65. That's 86% for
[3:31:39]
years. Public safety, which I
[3:31:40]
think we all agree should be
[3:31:41]
the largest part of growing
[3:31:43]
government. Public safety is
[3:31:45]
going up. 41 1%. In fact, kj
[3:31:48]
had grown at the same rate of
[3:31:49]
public safety, their budget
[3:31:49]
would have been a 50 million
[3:31:51]
instead of 65 million this
[3:31:52]
past year. So I do want to
[3:31:53]
make sure we have some sort of
[3:31:55]
input on who were a point to
[3:31:55]
this board because the reality
[3:31:57]
is we're going to board
[3:31:58]
members that neither do more
[3:32:00]
with the same amount of money
[3:32:02]
or potentially do the same
[3:32:02]
with the less amount of money.
[3:32:04]
So I want to make sure we are
[3:32:06]
able that and put people that
[3:32:08]
we think are going to the best
[3:32:09]
and make the best use of the
[3:32:10]
money that kha gets all be a
[3:32:14]
yes on this again tonight.
[3:32:14]
Thank you, sir. Or to council
[3:32:19]
in Boyle. Thank you, MR.
[3:32:20]
PRESIDENT, I appreciate the
[3:32:21]
comments of Councilmember
[3:32:24]
Salem and and lane in on this.
[3:32:27]
But I wish Councilmember mayor
[3:32:28]
was here.
[3:32:28]
>> You know, if any quo trying
[3:32:32]
to fix it. We do have control.
[3:32:34]
We do have control. At the end
[3:32:35]
of the day, we see up or down
[3:32:36]
on on these appointment. So we
[3:32:40]
do have that control and the
[3:32:41]
questions and concerns with
[3:32:43]
respect to kj particular,
[3:32:46]
certainly we can make clear
[3:32:47]
our intent to see this managed
[3:32:49]
better or well if it isn't
[3:32:50]
already and to put people in
[3:32:53]
place in order to do that, you
[3:32:54]
know, many of you MAY know
[3:32:55]
this, but I put out biweekly
[3:32:56]
email after the city council
[3:32:59]
meetings and then that talk
[3:33:00]
about the area's bills and why
[3:33:04]
supported them or didn't. One
[3:33:06]
night and it goes talked about
[3:33:07]
5,000 constituents. And so I
[3:33:07]
used as a pretty good
[3:33:09]
barometer as to whether or not
[3:33:10]
items like these are important
[3:33:12]
to my constituents. I got one
[3:33:14]
response to it. He was
[3:33:17]
supportive of my vote against
[3:33:18]
this bill. The last time it
[3:33:20]
came around. People looking at
[3:33:23]
this is something that's not
[3:33:25]
critical. It's this is inside
[3:33:27]
baseball. And if we've got the
[3:33:28]
the opportunity to say up or
[3:33:31]
down on any of these
[3:33:32]
appointments, we have all the
[3:33:33]
power we need to make sure
[3:33:35]
these boards are properly
[3:33:36]
populated. And so I need see
[3:33:39]
no need to do this. And for
[3:33:39]
the record not doing this
[3:33:40]
because it gets me out of done
[3:33:44]
this 5 years ago and
[3:33:45]
COUNCILMAN Mayor Curry wasn't
[3:33:46]
who is in place. It doesn't
[3:33:49]
make sense to me that we you
[3:33:50]
want to make changes to kind
[3:33:51]
of boys you might recall kj
[3:33:53]
when it was established. This
[3:33:56]
assistant upon Mayor Curry
[3:33:57]
that he have all the
[3:33:59]
appointments in that process
[3:34:01]
and we did. Was not challenge
[3:34:02]
that that what MAY be his
[3:34:03]
challenge, but it didn't
[3:34:05]
happen that way. They broke.
[3:34:06]
Don't fix it. Let's leave this
[3:34:07]
thing alone and move on and
[3:34:08]
deal with the things people
[3:34:09]
care about. Thank you, MR.
[3:34:11]
PRESIDENT. Thank you, sir.
[3:34:15]
Over to MISS Clark. Mary.
[3:34:19]
Thank you. Chair. This bill by
[3:34:24]
its nature is disruptive. So
[3:34:24]
talk with previous council
[3:34:25]
members often about the
[3:34:29]
history behind bills and so
[3:34:29]
mayor Austin was the first to
[3:34:31]
basically establish to
[3:34:32]
Children's Commission, which
[3:34:35]
is very similar to this. And
[3:34:38]
so he had the wisdom to say
[3:34:39]
that.
[3:34:40]
>> As a mayor, there was a
[3:34:40]
certain amount of power he
[3:34:44]
didn't want to have in regards
[3:34:44]
to the financial aspect
[3:34:47]
because he thought that this
[3:34:48]
could create a problem in
[3:34:53]
without too. Just power but
[3:34:54]
nature, correct? And then
[3:34:54]
absolute power corrupts
[3:34:58]
absolutely. So he maintain the
[3:35:03]
idea that. You the mayor gets
[3:35:05]
to recommend and then the
[3:35:06]
council approves and them
[3:35:09]
going on. We're Delaney. Not
[3:35:10]
exactly sure. But I remember
[3:35:12]
that I would say that I
[3:35:13]
remember that being the most
[3:35:14]
productive use of this city.
[3:35:15]
And I was a young, younger
[3:35:19]
person. Then. But then Payton
[3:35:21]
had the Jacksonville journey
[3:35:22]
and cap the appointment as big
[3:35:27]
the same. Then going on to
[3:35:28]
Brown. Not exactly sure. But
[3:35:29]
just going and just kind of
[3:35:30]
piggybacking on what you said.
[3:35:31]
Councilmember Boylan. Mayor
[3:35:36]
Curry. At the inclination to
[3:35:37]
keep the same type of
[3:35:41]
structure. I'm not sure
[3:35:42]
exactly why it needs to be
[3:35:45]
changed, but it doesn't. This
[3:35:46]
current mayoral
[3:35:50]
administration. Being able to
[3:35:52]
a point. And recommend purses
[3:35:56]
to the board doesn't diminish
[3:35:57]
our power. And it's been said
[3:35:58]
before that it doesn't. It
[3:36:00]
doesn't. And it creates a
[3:36:03]
balance. And once again, I go
[3:36:04]
back to the information that I
[3:36:06]
received in regards to Austin.
[3:36:08]
And that was the fact that he
[3:36:10]
thought about the fact that at
[3:36:13]
this point cages with which is
[3:36:13]
what the bill or this
[3:36:14]
particular organization became
[3:36:18]
under Mayor Curry, the amount
[3:36:20]
of money that goes into that
[3:36:22]
board is very enticing. And
[3:36:26]
so. Having this particular
[3:36:27]
structure where you have the
[3:36:30]
mayor to recommend and we
[3:36:32]
approve is a balance way too,
[3:36:34]
on this board. And once again,
[3:36:38]
let's think about our
[3:36:39]
perception. Not just our
[3:36:41]
perception but how we are
[3:36:41]
perceived by this county by
[3:36:47]
the people. Do we want to keep
[3:36:48]
that or maintain or help to
[3:36:50]
further that perception by
[3:36:51]
changing the structure of this
[3:36:54]
board? And of course, I don't
[3:36:56]
think that any of us thought
[3:36:56]
that the man would approve it
[3:36:59]
or sign it. Certainly she
[3:37:01]
shouldn't. And whether it's a
[3:37:05]
female mayor, Bill Mayor,
[3:37:05]
Democrat, Republican, once
[3:37:07]
again, the structure of the
[3:37:09]
board isn't broken. And it
[3:37:10]
doesn't need to be fixed.
[3:37:15]
Thank you. Chair. Thank you,
[3:37:15]
ma'am. Over to counsel
[3:37:21]
Mueller. Thank you, MR.
[3:37:23]
PRESIDENT to the PRESIDENT,
[3:37:24]
I'd like to take a slightly
[3:37:29]
different approach
[3:37:30]
>> thankfully, the auditors
[3:37:31]
and researchers help me with
[3:37:32]
this. But I just want to take
[3:37:38]
actual approach on the past
[3:37:39]
and the current situation with
[3:37:42]
our boards and commissions.
[3:37:42]
And so by the numbers, you
[3:37:48]
know, I heard the comments I
[3:37:49]
down vote. So that's that's
[3:37:51]
enough for us to have. The
[3:37:54]
implication was and also mayor
[3:37:56]
recommends the council
[3:37:58]
approves. But the facts of our
[3:38:00]
current boards and commissions
[3:38:04]
don't support that. We have 52
[3:38:07]
boards and commissions. And of
[3:38:12]
those 50 2.35 Have multiple
[3:38:17]
individuals nominating. Or
[3:38:18]
appointing, even though we we
[3:38:20]
actually come from this body
[3:38:24]
does. But 35 of the 52 current
[3:38:28]
boards and commissions are at
[3:38:30]
least Dooley and in some
[3:38:31]
cases, 3 different individuals
[3:38:34]
with different organizations.
[3:38:34]
Give nominations for those
[3:38:39]
boards. Of those boards. The
[3:38:46]
mayor appoints. 10 solely. The
[3:38:46]
city Council appoints 4
[3:38:50]
solely. And the mayor and the
[3:38:56]
council appointed jointly 12.
[3:38:57]
We're not doing something here
[3:39:01]
that I think. Has already been
[3:39:02]
down. Obviously it has by the
[3:39:08]
numbers. And does that
[3:39:08]
diminish someone's power? I
[3:39:09]
don't think so. And and from
[3:39:10]
my past as inspector general
[3:39:13]
and commander many
[3:39:13]
organizations, I'm always
[3:39:15]
looking for ways to make
[3:39:17]
things better. I personally
[3:39:18]
believe after doing this
[3:39:19]
research looking through this
[3:39:22]
and sitting on. The library
[3:39:26]
board as a liaison. I believe
[3:39:27]
a better representation
[3:39:31]
throughout our city. Is
[3:39:32]
achieved. When you have
[3:39:34]
multiple individuals
[3:39:35]
appointing like, for instance,
[3:39:38]
Mandarin has somebody really
[3:39:41]
would be great on one of these
[3:39:43]
boards instead of having one
[3:39:44]
person, the administration and
[3:39:47]
mayor to go to when there's an
[3:39:50]
opening. If this is approved,
[3:39:51]
we can go to one of our
[3:39:52]
colleagues in this case, our
[3:39:54]
colleague council PRESIDENT,
[3:39:54]
how or whoever comes after
[3:39:59]
him. And I believe having
[3:40:00]
those options is a good thing
[3:40:03]
and you get into more more
[3:40:04]
diverse board makeup by each
[3:40:06]
of you in your districts,
[3:40:08]
especially being able to
[3:40:11]
recruit and bring someone to
[3:40:12]
the table to represent your
[3:40:13]
your library's new board
[3:40:17]
saying on kids so. I just see
[3:40:20]
this as as a positive way to
[3:40:20]
improve the overall process
[3:40:21]
and systems. Thank you, MR.
[3:40:22]
PRESIDENT, thank you, sir.
[3:40:27]
Over to counsel and I'm. There
[3:40:33]
is no one in the queue. We
[3:40:34]
have a motion a second to call
[3:40:37]
the question. I don't see you
[3:40:43]
in there. Yeah, it's doesn't
[3:40:43]
matter. It isn't debatable.
[3:40:46]
Weather in the queue or The
[3:40:47]
question has been called the
[3:40:48]
motion to call. The questions
[3:40:50]
remain. So we will take this
[3:40:52]
vote by hand on calling the
[3:40:54]
question all in favor of the
[3:40:55]
motion to call the question
[3:41:04]
indicate by raising your hand.
[3:41:05]
The motion to call the
[3:41:06]
question fails. MISTER
[3:41:13]
Carlucci recognized.
[3:41:14]
>> I suppose by like goes off,
[3:41:14]
it just gets tired of being on
[3:41:23]
so long. We are co-equal,
[3:41:29]
perhaps this council has
[3:41:30]
different responsibilities in
[3:41:33]
the administration. We are the
[3:41:37]
checks and balances. The
[3:41:38]
branch that makes most of the
[3:41:41]
appointments. We did that one
[3:41:45]
time on the library board. We
[3:41:46]
did not appoint somebody that
[3:41:47]
was up probably should have
[3:41:50]
been appointed. I think this
[3:41:57]
is. I only know what brought
[3:41:58]
this up. I think I do. But I
[3:41:59]
don't want to venture into
[3:42:00]
that. But this is this is just
[3:42:08]
a a problem that came up that
[3:42:12]
somebody invented. Decided we
[3:42:17]
needed more power. Grab.
[3:42:20]
Checks and balances. We're mad
[3:42:24]
Sony and type of government.
[3:42:26]
We're government were. The
[3:42:27]
mayor is a part of the
[3:42:30]
council. Mayors on the other
[3:42:35]
side of the building,
[3:42:35]
administrative executive. We
[3:42:39]
are the checks and balances. I
[3:42:41]
understand what COUNCILMAN
[3:42:42]
Miller said that we do make
[3:42:45]
some appointments. But I don't
[3:42:46]
think that's reason to
[3:42:47]
suddenly start grabbing up
[3:42:49]
more. And I think some of
[3:42:51]
those appointments are at a
[3:42:56]
lesser level. At same time.
[3:42:58]
And some of those points are
[3:42:59]
opponents of the council made
[3:43:03]
in terms of creating certain
[3:43:03]
commissions like the true
[3:43:10]
commissions so forth. Folks,
[3:43:10]
every time we start messing
[3:43:12]
with this kind of thing.
[3:43:14]
Messing with. Our consolidated
[3:43:17]
government. And that's what
[3:43:20]
bothers me. We keep chipping
[3:43:24]
away at it. This is part of
[3:43:27]
some just what it is. Are,
[3:43:29]
know, with the votes going to
[3:43:31]
But as partisan for for most
[3:43:33]
of us, not everybody that
[3:43:34]
there's some folks here. I
[3:43:35]
think, Jim, with the bully
[3:43:39]
that that we should change it.
[3:43:39]
But by and large, I think this
[3:43:41]
is a partisan effort. For
[3:43:47]
grab. What reason what is the
[3:43:49]
problem? We're solving here.
[3:43:55]
Nothing. And frankly, I think
[3:43:57]
many times the mayor's
[3:43:58]
position better to make
[3:43:59]
appointments to matter who the
[3:44:02]
mayor is. Because the mayor
[3:44:04]
has a broad reach across this
[3:44:08]
community. Just because of the
[3:44:09]
executive position that she or
[3:44:15]
he holes. Pray that you vote
[3:44:19]
to sustain the time.
[3:44:20]
>> Thank you, sir. There no
[3:44:20]
other a hand, the gavel to the
[3:44:22]
vice PRESIDENT. Recognize me,
[3:44:28]
sir. Council, PRESIDENT Allen,
[3:44:29]
you're recognized. Thank you,
[3:44:30]
MR. Vice-PRESIDENT I did not
[3:44:32]
get a chance to vote on this
[3:44:33]
bill in committee when it went
[3:44:35]
through because I was only on
[3:44:35]
finance committee and this
[3:44:37]
went through neighborhoods and
[3:44:40]
rules. I would have voted yes.
[3:44:42]
Been all vote. Yes. Tonight,
[3:44:43]
handful of reasons like
[3:44:44]
counsel Mueller said I don't
[3:44:44]
think it's unprecedented. I
[3:44:48]
don't think it's unreasonable
[3:44:49]
COUNCILMAN Lane and said I
[3:44:50]
think we have an opportunity
[3:44:51]
to exert more control on a
[3:44:52]
large chunk of the operating
[3:44:53]
budget. And then finally, as
[3:44:53]
COUNCILMAN.
[3:44:55]
>> Salem said. Emphasizing
[3:44:59]
that it's not unreasonable,
[3:45:00]
you see is ruled. It's
[3:45:01]
allowable. The executive
[3:45:02]
branch maintains a majority on
[3:45:05]
both of these boards and we
[3:45:06]
only get to nominate one as
[3:45:09]
someone rolls off. So with
[3:45:23]
estimate, thanks. COUNCILMAN
[3:45:24]
Freeman, you're recognized
[3:45:24]
followed by council in
[3:45:32]
Carrick. Thank you, MR.
[3:45:33]
PRESIDENT and I really wanted
[3:45:36]
to hear my colleagues speak on
[3:45:36]
this one.
[3:45:37]
>> If anybody knows me, you
[3:45:39]
know that I love serving kids
[3:45:39]
and that is the reason solely
[3:45:42]
that I am sitting in this seat
[3:45:43]
and we'll continue to try to
[3:45:45]
pursue the efforts to make his
[3:45:46]
last better. But there are few
[3:45:46]
things that I do want to share
[3:45:49]
regarding this bill. One I
[3:45:51]
heard we talk about the growth
[3:45:52]
of kj. I know that I'm guilty
[3:45:56]
as a council person of.
[3:45:57]
Putting forward what I think
[3:45:59]
is good policy that lands in
[3:46:03]
the lap of kj. And so I think
[3:46:04]
that their budget sometimes
[3:46:04]
seems to grow because of the
[3:46:05]
work, the good work that we do
[3:46:10]
as a body. I did serve on the
[3:46:10]
cage a board and I was one of
[3:46:12]
the original members of the
[3:46:14]
Jacksonville Journey Oversight
[3:46:16]
Committee. That's what it was
[3:46:17]
originally an at that time. It
[3:46:21]
was council member Ronnie. Who
[3:46:24]
appointed That was back in
[3:46:29]
2008. Prior to the change.
[3:46:30]
When I came on the council
[3:46:31]
shortly when the last the
[3:46:32]
class before came on and they
[3:46:35]
switch to kj. But I do want to
[3:46:36]
share this. I don't think this
[3:46:39]
is partisan. And I don't make
[3:46:40]
my decisions. We kids based
[3:46:41]
off of a party affiliation. I
[3:46:42]
understand what party
[3:46:44]
affiliation lies in the U.S. I
[3:46:45]
based everything off of common
[3:46:47]
sense. I base it off of what
[3:46:50]
damage is going to be done and
[3:46:50]
warehouse is going to
[3:46:52]
negatively impact kids and
[3:46:56]
I've done nothing but listen.
[3:46:57]
I've talked to the board. I
[3:46:57]
feel like I'm a good liaison.
[3:46:59]
I listen. I asked they're not
[3:47:00]
supportive of this and I
[3:47:01]
respect their opinion. Many of
[3:47:05]
them. I appointed. But at the
[3:47:06]
end of the day, what's
[3:47:06]
important to me is that we get
[3:47:08]
people on there. Who truly see
[3:47:11]
that our futures or walking
[3:47:12]
the streets and sit classrooms
[3:47:13]
right now. Our workforce is
[3:47:15]
sitting there. What I think is
[3:47:16]
ultimately important and this
[3:47:19]
is where I would land. Is. I
[3:47:20]
look at how we as council
[3:47:21]
members have been treated,
[3:47:21]
least this council person over
[3:47:25]
the last year. And if I get a
[3:47:26]
chance now to try to give us a
[3:47:31]
voice. Not one of you all can
[3:47:32]
sit up here and say that you
[3:47:34]
didn't see $200,000 for a
[3:47:35]
whole year. Get moved from one
[3:47:36]
committee to the next. Not one
[3:47:38]
of you sitting up here. Can
[3:47:39]
say that you did not hear them
[3:47:42]
say. Appropriate. They
[3:47:45]
execute. So there's an
[3:47:48]
opportunity for me. To have a
[3:47:50]
say in what happens with kids
[3:47:51]
based on how I've been
[3:47:56]
treated. I'm sorry. I feel
[3:47:57]
like I'm going to support this
[3:47:57]
supporting it because I want
[3:47:59]
to help kids. Because my voice
[3:48:04]
has been silenced for year.
[3:48:05]
And this is a chance for me to
[3:48:09]
speak. Thank you. Thank you,
[3:48:10]
MR. Freeman, we Mark Erica.
[3:48:12]
>> Followed by Mr Areas and
[3:48:15]
then Dr Sailing for the second
[3:48:16]
time. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT
[3:48:19]
didn't mean to jump in after
[3:48:20]
you kind of blinking in the in
[3:48:22]
the but I'll be brief, support
[3:48:23]
this in committee all
[3:48:24]
supported today. But what I
[3:48:25]
really want to do is just
[3:48:26]
acknowledge and thank Dr
[3:48:27]
Christner.
[3:48:28]
>> Who has been sitting in
[3:48:30]
this audience numerous times
[3:48:31]
following this bill and spent
[3:48:33]
hours and hours and hours with
[3:48:34]
us. As you know, service at
[3:48:38]
the Duval County School Board
[3:48:40]
school system and stepped in
[3:48:42]
as the interim ceo of Cage. A
[3:48:43]
job well done. I know they've
[3:48:44]
found a replacement sides.
[3:48:45]
Want to thank you for hanging
[3:48:47]
in there and showing up and
[3:48:48]
represent for kj and for kids.
[3:48:48]
Some. Thank you for that. And
[3:48:49]
I do support this and I hope
[3:48:52]
that you all will too. Thank
[3:48:55]
you, Sir. Council variance.
[3:48:55]
Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT I was
[3:48:56]
its peak, but I just, you
[3:48:58]
know, my colleagues, I just
[3:48:58]
think.
[3:49:00]
>> I want speak. So here's the
[3:49:02]
thing. The thing about it is
[3:49:04]
not broken. Why fix That
[3:49:05]
doesn't mean anything because
[3:49:08]
realistically people out there
[3:49:09]
just and business people and
[3:49:12]
business just the ball. And
[3:49:12]
this is us evolving as a
[3:49:16]
government body of the city.
[3:49:17]
You know, we represent
[3:49:18]
different districts are some
[3:49:19]
district members. But at the
[3:49:19]
end, they we still have a
[3:49:22]
voice. And the way I see is
[3:49:25]
be, you know, United the city.
[3:49:25]
>> We're a team sport here.
[3:49:26]
The mayor has appointment. We
[3:49:28]
have our appointment.
[3:49:29]
Hopefully and I don't see
[3:49:30]
anything wrong because we
[3:49:31]
boards and commissions that we
[3:49:33]
also point to and there's
[3:49:34]
nothing wrong with it. So
[3:49:35]
nothing will change your. The
[3:49:36]
only thing that changes the
[3:49:39]
fight that these boards for
[3:49:40]
the longest part have been
[3:49:42]
coined by mayor and obviously
[3:49:43]
kept the whole other points to
[3:49:46]
themselves. But at this point,
[3:49:47]
I guess that I just think that
[3:49:48]
it makes sense for all of us
[3:49:50]
just worked together as a city
[3:49:52]
and the council and the mayor
[3:49:53]
as well to to just work
[3:49:54]
together and have appointment
[3:49:55]
at the end. They she still has
[3:49:57]
more point than that. We do
[3:49:59]
anyways. So I'll be supporting
[3:50:00]
this bill and not to be Thank
[3:50:03]
you. Thank you, sir. Back to
[3:50:06]
Doctor Salem. Second time. 2
[3:50:10]
quick points.
[3:50:11]
>> Who do you want making some
[3:50:14]
of these appointments? Do you
[3:50:18]
want Randy White as PRESIDENT?
[3:50:19]
You want Ron as PRESIDENT, do
[3:50:23]
you want? PRESIDENT Howland
[3:50:24]
making some of these
[3:50:28]
appointments? I do. I think
[3:50:29]
they have a different view of
[3:50:31]
this government and what can
[3:50:34]
be done. And I want their
[3:50:34]
diversity making appointments
[3:50:38]
to these boards. I made the
[3:50:42]
commitment that I am not going
[3:50:44]
beyond these 2 boards. I think
[3:50:45]
these 2 are substantial. They
[3:50:47]
got huge budgets. And I think
[3:50:48]
it's important that we have
[3:50:51]
diversity. And the other point
[3:50:52]
that I I keep hearing is
[3:50:54]
there's nothing wrong. Why
[3:50:56]
change it? We write
[3:50:59]
legislation all the time to
[3:51:00]
improve specific ordinances
[3:51:01]
are already there.
[3:51:05]
>> Why are we here? If we're
[3:51:06]
not writing legislation to
[3:51:08]
improve things? That's what I
[3:51:12]
think this does. It adds
[3:51:14]
diversity of appointments to
[3:51:18]
these boards. D was set up
[3:51:19]
this way. Nothing's nothing's
[3:51:20]
going wrong at bia as we make
[3:51:25]
appointments. I know people
[3:51:26]
want to make this partisan.
[3:51:27]
I've been working on this
[3:51:31]
since late last year. Believe
[3:51:35]
55 years was right. And we
[3:51:36]
finally convince this general
[3:51:38]
counsel that that's the case.
[3:51:39]
And I thought this was the
[3:51:42]
place to do it. So vote your
[3:51:44]
conscience. Thank you, MR.
[3:51:45]
PRESIDENT. Thank you, sir. And
[3:51:46]
final speaker in the queue
[3:51:47]
COUNCILMAN Pollution. Thank
[3:51:51]
you, MR. PRESIDENT if Council
[3:51:52]
or Salem speaks a second time,
[3:51:53]
I might as well and I wasn't
[3:51:53]
really gonna speak much on
[3:51:54]
this Surprise. We talked this
[3:51:54]
long.
[3:51:57]
>> This is so stupid. Read the
[3:52:00]
charter. We have a lot of
[3:52:03]
power. We have the power to
[3:52:06]
vote down and appointee. It's
[3:52:07]
happened before by this body.
[3:52:11]
We have power. It exists know
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that this process is. Don't
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don't say whether it's
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partisan and this is clearly
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is kj was created by the
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former. Mayor, the city. No
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one said a word about the
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appointments. All of a sudden
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now they do. It's just it's
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just bizarre to me. Let's vote
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this. No, let's go home. Thank
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you. All right. Thank you,
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sir. One more time to Would
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you please explain the vote?
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What yes means what means.
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>> Of course, MR. PRESIDENT
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through the PRESIDENT To the
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council. So if you pressed the
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greener, yes, button, you are
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voting to override the mayor's
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veto and approve ordinance
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2025 8.72 If you vote the red
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button or no button, it is a
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vote to sustain the mayor's
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veto and defeat the ordinance,
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MR. PRESIDENT with 18
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PRESIDENT, you will need 12
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votes to override the veto.
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Thank you for clarifying. We
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have a motion and second,
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let's open the ballot Cordova.
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>> 11 Yays, 7 nays.
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>> And by your vote, the
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override fails. 25 0, 8, 7, 2,
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MR. Floor leader. I think that
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concludes urgent. You're
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absolutely right. It does.
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Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. All
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right. We will take a roll
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call.
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>> 18 present.
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>> All right. And then we open
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up for announcements. I know
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MISTER Lane and as an
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announcement.
[3:54:13]
>> As thinking, MR. PRESIDENT
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reminding everyone on JULY.
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First, MISS Brenda Smith sent
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out the budget hearing
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schedule. So make sure you
[3:54:21]
look at that and we look to
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have you join us at this
[3:54:23]
specific topic on the agenda
[3:54:25]
that you want to be there for.
[3:54:26]
Thank you. Thank you, sir, to
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MISTER Palou. So you have an
[3:54:29]
announcement. Thank you as
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PRESIDENT. That's much
[3:54:31]
announcement. I would like to
[3:54:32]
apologize for use of the word
[3:54:33]
stupid. I don't want people to
[3:54:33]
think that I was calling any
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of these council members to.
[3:54:36]
But I was talking about this
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process in which we were going
[3:54:38]
through because I don't
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believe allowed to do the
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voted the veto the way we did
[3:54:40]
this evening.
[3:54:41]
>> So this is not me calling
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up councilmember Stupid. Thank
[3:54:45]
you. Thank you for that
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apology, MR. Carlucci, a
[3:54:52]
metallurgy recognized.
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>> Thank I thought happier
[3:54:54]
note, I might remind some of
[3:54:55]
those who do Bob Johnson, but
[3:54:59]
yesterday was his birthday and
[3:54:59]
quite the notable birthday.
[3:55:01]
And if you haven't had a
[3:55:01]
chance to send him a text
[3:55:05]
issue well, you might want to
[3:55:08]
do that. I spoke with him at
[3:55:09]
length yesterday and he and
[3:55:10]
his family went out to dinner
[3:55:14]
last night and had a good time
[3:55:16]
he's like the Timex Watch. You
[3:55:16]
know, he takes a look at some
[3:55:18]
times, but it keeps on taking.
[3:55:20]
And we just had a great time
[3:55:23]
talking about all times and so
[3:55:24]
I know some of y'all are very
[3:55:25]
close to him. I want to give
[3:55:27]
McCall, thank you.
[3:55:29]
>> All right. Thank you, sir.
[3:55:30]
I misspent money. You have
[3:55:30]
anything all right. Ms Pittman
[3:55:39]
over to you. And I want get
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you.
[3:55:47]
>> We have a lot of Leone's.
[3:55:50]
On the council as well and is
[3:55:51]
the cea's the so the first
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one. Is councilmember Kris
[3:55:57]
Miller. His birthday was on
[3:56:00]
JULY. The 11th. And then we
[3:56:02]
have Jimmy COUNCILMAN Jimmy,
[3:56:08]
your birthday is on does And
[3:56:13]
we have Jackie Niihau 7.19,
[3:56:13]
and Bethany. Her birthday was
[3:56:20]
7.26 And my assistant. So less
[3:56:23]
dean. Her birthday is on 7.30,
[3:56:27]
one. Then we have Jessica in
[3:56:31]
the birthday is was 7, 8. And
[3:56:34]
we have to Reese's birthday,
[3:56:37]
which is 7.29 and we events
[3:56:42]
photo. And this birthday is on
[3:56:44]
JULY. So let's give all of the
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Leo's a big round of applause
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>> gay.
[3:56:52]
>> Thank you. MISS Pittman.
[3:56:52]
Final call for announcements.
[3:56:56]
All right. With that, we are
[3:56:56]
adjourned. We turn it over to
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Doctor Johnson for the prayer.
[3:57:00]
>> And I figured out to the
[3:57:01]
announcement everybody can
[3:57:01]
stand 2 things. First of all,
[3:57:02]
I want to celebrate the life
[3:57:05]
and times of Billy Plumber
[3:57:06]
make a bigger Rankins. He was
[3:57:07]
an amazing community member of
[3:57:10]
this council passed resolution
[3:57:11]
honoring 30 years of service.
[3:57:12]
I was scheduled to give it to
[3:57:16]
him on AUGUST 18 at a
[3:57:16]
community bookbag giveaway. He
[3:57:17]
was giving away.
[3:57:18]
Unfortunately, he lost his
[3:57:20]
battle with kidney disease
[3:57:21]
just a few days ago. And he'll
[3:57:24]
be funeral lives. So one time
[3:57:27]
for Billy Plumber run it by
[3:57:28]
select back and last but not
[3:57:29]
least I want to recognize a
[3:57:30]
former member of this most a
[3:57:32]
gust body and my dear friend
[3:57:34]
and one of the reasons I
[3:57:35]
became the size can matter, of
[3:57:37]
course, enjoys Morgan, an
[3:57:38]
anchor reporter. And that is
[3:57:41]
Harry s Reagan. Harry Regan
[3:57:43]
was certainly an amazing
[3:57:45]
community leader. He was 87
[3:57:47]
years old. He served this
[3:57:48]
council with integrity. I
[3:57:50]
remember as a young man
[3:57:51]
watching him nightly on the
[3:57:53]
news after the news, he would
[3:57:54]
come on and give those
[3:57:55]
wonderful editorials. And he
[3:57:56]
was just as genteel and
[3:57:58]
amazing when he came on this
[3:58:00]
council, his wife, Rita and my
[3:58:00]
mother, would your friends and
[3:58:05]
they were both historic
[3:58:05]
aficionados. I reached
[3:58:06]
establishing the filmmakers,
[3:58:07]
the museum over in Arlington
[3:58:09]
and so many other wonderful
[3:58:11]
thing. So I want to tell you
[3:58:11]
from the family of heavy
[3:58:12]
Reagan, as you see, there is a
[3:58:14]
resolution honoring his life.
[3:58:15]
His celebration of life will
[3:58:17]
be on Sunday AUGUST 16th from
[3:58:20]
one to 04:00pm at the
[3:58:22]
Jacksonville History Make sure
[3:58:22]
the Senate around to the
[3:58:25]
council so you can rsvp. But
[3:58:26]
let us remember one of our
[3:58:27]
most esteemed members, Harry
[3:58:28]
Regan, who is now at the dais
[3:58:31]
in the sky with that history
[3:58:32]
will never ask how long. I
[3:58:35]
mean.
[3:58:36]
>> He is in the days and this
[3:58:38]
guy with the Lord. You know,
[3:58:41]
you're listening to history
[3:58:42]
will never ask where he is.
[3:58:47]
He's going on. History will
[3:58:48]
never ask how long our
[3:58:49]
meetings lasted will ask
[3:58:50]
whether our service expanded
[3:58:52]
opportunity protected dignity.
[3:58:53]
>> And left the city more
[3:58:54]
hopeful than we found it.
[3:58:56]
Please let us pray to got to
[3:58:56]
thank you for the opportunity
[3:59:00]
of coming together. We MAY not
[3:59:01]
all agree, but what we can
[3:59:02]
certainly agree on is that
[3:59:03]
this city, the place that
[3:59:05]
you've given us stewardship
[3:59:06]
over is an amazing community
[3:59:08]
of so many unique individuals
[3:59:11]
and places and landscapes. And
[3:59:12]
we prayed that the work that
[3:59:13]
we do continues to expand this
[3:59:16]
city and a great way to not
[3:59:16]
just attract people to take
[3:59:18]
the people that are here and
[3:59:21]
nurture them and care for them
[3:59:21]
so that our neighbors and
[3:59:22]
community build and show the
[3:59:24]
world just how wonderful I'd
[3:59:26]
only we are, but that we can
[3:59:28]
be. Thank you for these
[3:59:28]
blessings. Please touch those
[3:59:30]
members who are not here, keep
[3:59:34]
them safe and bring them back.
[3:59:35]
These and all the blessings.
[3:59:35]
We asking the father, the son
[3:59:36]
and the Holy spirit. Amen.
[3:59:41]
Amen. Thank you all for your
[3:59:42]
service to the city tonight to
[3:59:43]
my colleagues and Never safe
[3:59:44]
drive home.
[3:59:59]
>> If it.
[4:03:06]
>> This city Jacksonville. Not
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for recognition. Well,
[4:03:13]
responsibility and park to
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where artists stands tall,
[4:03:17]
where mere is up along with
[4:03:18]
with access. You see she
[4:03:18]
didn't just decided she
[4:03:23]
created a rival. This is on
[4:03:26]
Waugh they're keen do when
[4:03:27]
building or to go observing
[4:03:30]
Moncrief moving south side,
[4:03:31]
stretching beach is breathing
[4:03:32]
a city alive in every
[4:03:34]
direction at once. Not like
[4:03:37]
despite darkness, light
[4:03:38]
because we understand the
[4:03:39]
light. So tonight we honor
[4:03:45]
more than names. We ignition
[4:03:46]
and intention. We honor those
[4:03:47]
who leave brilliance lingering
[4:03:48]
long after they've left the
[4:03:54]
road. Look what you've done. A
[4:03:55]
city that learned how to blow
[4:03:58]
on command early on. See that
[4:04:00]
decided the darkness would
[4:04:04]
never have a foothold here.
[4:04:04]
That darkness would never have