1 00:00:02,610 --> 00:00:09,910 Good evening, and welcome to the regular meeting of the Joplin City Council. From Monday, October 20th, 2025, Mrs. Naush. 2 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:25,110 Eternal God, as we begin another meeting of the Joplin City Council, we ask that you invest in this body, your strength and wisdom, to fortify us and guide us, so that we may enhance the prosperity of our community and improve the quality of life for those we serve. Amen. 3 00:00:25,110 --> 00:00:26,110 Mr. 4 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:31,570 Carlin, I believe you have some guests with us this evening. 5 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:41,170 I do, but if you all like to come up to the podium, we have guests this evening from Vita Nova Village to lead us in the pledge. 6 00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:54,930 Vita Nova Village is not, is a not for profit organization committed to fighting homelessness in our area by providing a planned community of safe and dignified housing. 7 00:00:54,930 --> 00:01:03,010 Their mission is to give people a hand up, not a hand out, and by creating this foundation 8 00:01:03,010 --> 00:01:10,110 of a home where they can rebuild their lives and contribute back to their community. 9 00:01:11,090 --> 00:01:19,150 Vita Nova is about hope, restoration, and long-term solutions to homelessness in our city. 10 00:01:19,150 --> 00:01:24,370 and Ronda Thompson will you please lead us in the pledge of allegiance. 11 00:01:28,170 --> 00:01:36,130 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, 12 00:01:36,690 --> 00:01:42,050 one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 13 00:01:43,050 --> 00:01:43,930 Thank you. 14 00:01:44,090 --> 00:01:44,450 Thank you. 15 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:44,970 But 16 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,440 a round of applause for the efforts of being in a village. 17 00:01:53,900 --> 00:02:02,180 I was speaking with Rhonda briefly before the meeting began and she was kind of updating me on where there are on the construction front. 18 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,960 And when I drove by there today, I seen some new dirt on the side and we're getting ready to have some foundations poured out there. 19 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:13,380 Walls are being built off site. 20 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,580 We're going to look up one day and there's going to be a village of tiny homes over there that's going to be able to have. 21 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:24,160 I help a lot with our homeless community in the near future. 22 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,780 So keep praying for them, and I am sure. 23 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:35,300 I am absolutely positive if you are moved by what they're doing over a beating of a village, they will take your check. 24 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:41,130 I just feel really good about being able to say that and it being true. 25 00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:42,990 Roe call. 26 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:44,390 Mr. Bard. 27 00:02:45,370 --> 00:02:45,850 President. 28 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:46,710 Mr. Carlin. 29 00:02:47,170 --> 00:02:47,430 President. 30 00:02:47,550 --> 00:02:48,230 Mr. Coppel. 31 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:48,630 President. 32 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:49,390 Mr. Detar. 33 00:02:49,590 --> 00:02:49,890 President. 34 00:02:49,890 --> 00:02:55,430 Dr. Farnham, Mr. Jackson, Mr. Lawson, Mr. Shaw, Mayor Cortez. 35 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:57,990 Present, presentations. 36 00:02:59,450 --> 00:03:01,850 AOPP Transit Grant Planning Update. 37 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:05,410 Good evening, Tony. 38 00:03:07,510 --> 00:03:08,170 Thank you, Mayor. 39 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:09,870 Good evening, Council. 40 00:03:10,770 --> 00:03:19,110 So, if you recall last year about this time we were awarded the Areas of Persistent Poverty Federal Transportation Administration Grant. 41 00:03:19,890 --> 00:03:29,430 that was intended to help us look at a more sustainable transit system, perhaps a transportation type authority, and also look into expansion ability. 42 00:03:30,290 --> 00:03:41,970 So we went through a typical RFP process, as you know, we brought on Transpro, David Johnson and his colleague Sarah Frost and team to start a process of analysis. 43 00:03:41,970 --> 00:03:50,170 So over the last year, they've gone through a whole series of assessments and surveys which you'll see in front of this evening. 44 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:52,650 They looked at assessment and goal setting. 45 00:03:53,410 --> 00:04:00,850 We went through public engagement process which included public outreach surveys, a series of meetings with area community leaders. 46 00:04:01,690 --> 00:04:10,050 They've done feasibility analyses, various governance models, different types of service deliveries and funding options and structures. 47 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:14,950 measures. They've looked at revenue planning and looked at some of those funding structures 48 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:19,890 and scenarios and cost some of those out and looked at revenue potential and then scalability 49 00:04:19,890 --> 00:04:23,550 of each one of those. So, David this evening is going to go through 50 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:27,890 a presentation which you'll see before you and we'll answer some questions at the end. 51 00:04:28,610 --> 00:04:28,790 Thank you. 52 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:32,480 Good evening and welcome. 53 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:36,540 Thank you, bear, council. Glad to be in front of you and present 54 00:04:36,540 --> 00:04:42,140 an update on the Joplin Regional Transit Study. I believe you can see the slides and I'll 55 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:43,860 I'll be following long in front here. 56 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,700 So bear with us as we work through that. 57 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,000 So wanted to give you a next slide, 58 00:04:49,180 --> 00:04:51,500 a quick background on the project. 59 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:53,660 Tony set that up a little bit, so I'll be brief. 60 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:56,660 But of course, this is a federally funded project. 61 00:04:56,660 --> 00:04:58,460 It is focused on public transportation. 62 00:04:58,620 --> 00:05:01,300 Of course, the city runs two different services 63 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,420 within that program and we'll talk about that in just a minute. 64 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:08,400 So our team is here tonight to give you an update on that study. 65 00:05:09,140 --> 00:05:11,400 And we're leveraging a study that was also conducted 66 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:17,480 in 2020, also by our friends and trans-systems now GFT that kind of did a much larger look at 67 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,660 the transit system, but only for the city of Joplin, and this is, of course, a regional look, 68 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,940 and really focused on the structure to make that a regional entity. So next slide for the schedule, 69 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:37,040 we're almost at the end here, and our final deliverables will be an implementation plan, so hopefully 70 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,360 Hopefully there's some input tonight for the team on the direction that we're headed so 71 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,380 that we can deliver an implementation plan that the city will actually use. 72 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,120 That is our goal. 73 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:53,160 So actionable plans is what we're about and we're hoping to deliver that by the end of the year. 74 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,340 Next slide. 75 00:05:56,510 --> 00:06:02,210 So we start every project at TransPro with a discussion about what's the success look 76 00:06:02,210 --> 00:06:03,070 like at the end, right? 77 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:29,010 We want to make sure we have sort of a guiding principle, something that helps us keep the whole thing in check as we go along and so that's what you see here on slide five is the goal is for Joplin, the Joplin area to have a regionally governed and operated transit system that is operationally sustainable, connects people to destinations and promotes economic development. So those three pillars are what we're trying to stay true to. 78 00:06:30,530 --> 00:06:41,810 So we'll move in and talk a little bit about the existing conditions of the service you currently provide, starting on slide seven, and then a little bit about the engagement we've done with the public and other regional leaders. 79 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:48,570 So the three bullets on slide seven are really just, you know, there is a need for transit in Joplin. 80 00:06:48,830 --> 00:06:52,190 That's demonstrated in sort of the basic data we use as transit planners. 81 00:06:53,210 --> 00:07:00,290 And of course, the region and that's the grants that was provided was to look at specifically a low income households. 82 00:07:01,010 --> 00:07:08,110 But Joplin as a region has more low income households and people with disabilities on average compared to the state of Missouri as a whole. 83 00:07:08,890 --> 00:07:11,750 So there is a need just based on those two inputs. 84 00:07:12,770 --> 00:07:17,590 You're probably familiar with the operator shortage that resulted in the suspension of the trolley. 85 00:07:18,190 --> 00:07:35,710 And so creating something that's operationally sustainable in the long term is really important and a lot of that has to do with the simple aspect of driver pay operator pay and lifting that out of the city, which is one of the goals of this study would allow you to do that. 86 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:49,530 And also the limited services that are offered today limits access to jobs so people who don't have reliable transportation or can't afford it are limited in how they can help participate in a local economy. 87 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,900 Next slide please. 88 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:03,900 So just very briefly on some of the engagement we did we did a two surveys so I'll try to make it clear why one and the other one we did two different ones. 89 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:11,140 And then also did some general outreach on Thursday and then of course we also convened 90 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:15,220 a steering committee made up of some of your peers in the region to bring them along 91 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:16,800 and course correct where needed. 92 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:24,960 So on slide nine, the online project survey, which was sort of the general public, anybody 93 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:31,940 could answer this throughout the region, we received about 241 responses through the summer. 94 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:37,780 For 82% of the response to that survey agree with a statement that we put in front of them 95 00:08:37,780 --> 00:08:44,000 that the Metro needs regional transit that connects people with destinations in communities 96 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,940 outside of Joplin. 97 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:51,960 So there's a service today within the city of Joplin and so everyone or 82% agree that 98 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,020 it should look beyond that to the whole region. 99 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,480 And some of the other responses from that, the challenges in making transit better include 100 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,360 the frequency and reliability of the current system. 101 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,680 Again, there's that financial sustainability and, of course, being more regional in nature. 102 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Because that is how people move around the region, right? 103 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Some key destinations we heard from that survey, education, recreation, 104 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,860 some of the industrial parks that aren't served today. 105 00:09:20,380 --> 00:09:24,800 And, of course, you're nearby communities, such as Carl Junction and 106 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:37,520 and they agreed with the priorities for a new system to be operationally sustainable to provide more access to destinations throughout the region and of course promoting economic development. 107 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:51,690 Now on slide 10, the phone survey is a statistically valid phone survey that we can save with 5% of margin of error and 108 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:57,450 and weighted towards Jasper and Newton County populations that, you know, these percentages 109 00:09:57,450 --> 00:09:58,730 are, you know, accurate, right? 110 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:02,670 As opposed to the opt-in of the online survey. 111 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:09,430 So this is a representative sample of both counties and going into this survey, we made 112 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:14,750 an assumption that we would be looking at the whole of both counties for either an entity 113 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:20,350 that would drive this new regional system and the funding mechanism to make it happen. 114 00:10:21,630 --> 00:10:30,490 So, 391 people answered the phone, which is the challenge these days, with 265 in Jasper and 126 being in Newton County. 115 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:32,710 And it was conducted at the end of May. 116 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:40,930 And only 12% reported using some kind of service that we offered up to them in the last six months. 117 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:48,510 But again, here a very high number of people finding value in transit, even if they don't use it 82%. 118 00:10:52,670 --> 00:10:58,710 So on slide 11, we have a couple of call outs from the phone survey results. 119 00:10:59,450 --> 00:11:03,490 Again, 85%, which is slightly higher than the overall value. 120 00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:07,050 Investing in transit is good for the community. 121 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:13,330 So these are wide swath of the community here against statistically valid results. 122 00:11:14,290 --> 00:11:19,770 And access and providing transportation for people with special mobility needs and 123 00:11:19,770 --> 00:11:23,130 low household incomes are most important with that. 124 00:11:23,730 --> 00:11:29,910 So we take these results and we use that to determine what services a new entity and a 125 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:31,750 new funding mechanism could provide. 126 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:34,130 So beyond again what the city is offering today. 127 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:40,650 And again most important is connecting people where they want to go, providing again transportation 128 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:46,370 for people with special mobility needs, and then low income households making it affordable. 129 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:51,050 probably know this, but a lot of surface transportation doesn't pay for itself even 130 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:55,830 with fares and user fees, and then of course creating job opportunities, which is not 131 00:11:55,830 --> 00:11:59,570 something we see a lot of in these surveys. We do these with transit agencies across 132 00:11:59,570 --> 00:12:04,370 the United States, but we think people were well aware of the staffing challenges that resulted 133 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:09,310 in the suspension of the trolley program. That's a unique scenario that you dealt with here 134 00:12:09,310 --> 00:12:11,490 and we think that's more and out of those results. 135 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:19,100 And then our final step in the engagement for the project was convening a steering committee. 136 00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:24,580 You can see on the left in the box who was invited and who we followed up with who couldn't attend in person. 137 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,180 We've had two of these meetings, one where we helped to define success and 138 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:33,540 then one where we tested the recommendations that you're going to hear tonight. 139 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:39,880 And we hope to have a third one with this same group where we say okay look we've got direction from the council. 140 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,500 we've had additional conversations with leaders in the region, elected officials like yourself, 141 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,980 we've said, okay, we can buy off on these recommendations and help advance them to the next phase. 142 00:12:53,350 --> 00:13:01,010 All right, starting on page, I think it'll be 14. The first issue we took up in this study was on 143 00:13:01,010 --> 00:13:07,070 governance. So as you are all aware as a governing body, you have a structure that, you know, 144 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:11,810 certain checks in place how legislation moves throughout and how funding is handled and budgets 145 00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:18,230 and everything. So setting up a new entity would require us to define a governance model for this 146 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:25,230 new regional entity. So we scoured Missouri statutes hoping to find something that didn't require you 147 00:13:25,230 --> 00:13:30,750 to make a special visit to Jeff City and ask for something unique. That was a challenge we kind of 148 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:36,910 set for ourselves. That still is an option you have if you choose to forego these recommendations. But 149 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:42,250 But at the top of the list is a transportation development district, which is a, it's not 150 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:47,230 unique to Missouri, other structures like it exists in many states, but it's essentially 151 00:13:47,810 --> 00:13:54,730 a special district that you create new, almost like a school district, a sub-unit or a sub-component 152 00:13:54,730 --> 00:14:00,050 of state government where the statutes enable this, and it provides the most flexibility and 153 00:14:00,050 --> 00:14:06,290 control for you as decision-makers on what the revenue sources are and 154 00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:09,910 then who you put on the board to govern this, provide that flexibility. 155 00:14:11,010 --> 00:14:14,710 And we'll talk more about that option because that is our recommendation to you tonight. 156 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:19,050 A couple of other options that exist again, existing in state statute, 157 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:22,990 a county transportation authority, which is a little less flexible and 158 00:14:22,990 --> 00:14:26,970 does require to be a county of the first class to advance that. 159 00:14:26,970 --> 00:14:37,450 And then transportation corporation, which is essentially functionally a non-profit that is essentially controlled by the Missouri Highway and Transportation Commission, and it provides the least flexibility. 160 00:14:39,150 --> 00:14:47,130 And also a call back to the survey results that people are generally supportive of creating a new entity to resolve this regional goal. 161 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:48,110 So 162 00:14:51,380 --> 00:14:55,900 a little bit more detail on slide 15 about the governance model that we're recommending, 163 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:59,020 the TDD plus the addition of a nonprofit. 164 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,940 So a little bit of background on why you would do both of those, is number one, the TDD is a creature of state statute. So as those statutes change, change the entity itself would need to adapt. So creating a nonprofit gives you that stability of saying the transit operations and the owner of the assets in the sponsor, which would be this sort of designation to receive federal funds, would sit with the nonprofit. And that the TDD 165 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:38,060 It's self would simply act as a conduit of funds and this model actually exists elsewhere in Missouri, so you wouldn't be the first to use it. 166 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Also, the TDD board is sort of defined by statute and a nonprofit, you can kind of make it up as you go along, making sure you have regional representation the way you see fit. 167 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,200 that the TDD does not allow that. 168 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,300 And then of course the proposed boundary 169 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:00,360 would be the entirety of the city of Joplin, 170 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,060 which is where you have the services today, 171 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,780 plus the entirety of Jasper County. 172 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,620 So pretty big area, and that area would be covered 173 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,740 with services that we're proposing as well. 174 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,620 In the table below, we have some steps we think 175 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:18,700 that you would need to take as a governing body. 176 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,240 So this is where you actually would need to act 177 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:44,760 to advance this plan if it's advanced beyond the study phase you would probably need to authorize staff to create the nonprofit that would operate the system and then allow those assets that are currently all city owned, so vehicles, staff, things like that, to the nonprofit so that it could begin to operate regionally. 178 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:56,060 You would probably also need to come up with an agreement so that this new nonprofit that would then take the city owned assets and make sure you have clear cooperation guidelines. 179 00:16:56,580 --> 00:17:04,080 You're probably in these arrangements with other local governments or other nonprofits that you do business with or exchange revenue with and this would be the same. 180 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:12,600 You also need to formally pass a resolution as one of the formation partners if you advance 181 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,980 that recommendation of a TDD to form the TDD itself. 182 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:21,160 I think there are other TDDs in this region pretty sure, so if you're not familiar with it 183 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,580 essentially goes to the circuit court. 184 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,880 They treat it like a civil case and then advances through there and then the outcome is, oh, 185 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,180 you can have an election, you can form the TDD, it's legal and can advance. 186 00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:37,820 So, but the step for that starts with this governing body and whoever is the other governing 187 00:17:37,820 --> 00:17:42,880 body that would be your pair up for the TDD, has to take, it takes two of those entities. 188 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,220 And we are all recommending that other body be Jasper County. 189 00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:53,840 Also the transfer of FTA status, so you are the recipient of federal funds for transit and 190 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:00,200 that process takes some time, so we would recommend that you, if you advance these other recommendations 191 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,660 to initiate that transfer process. 192 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,620 They don't have a checklist, unfortunately we asked. 193 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:09,260 And so we just take some time to prove the new entity, 194 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,940 the new nonprofit has the financial, legal, 195 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,860 and technical capacity to receive federal funds, 196 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,900 as the city does today. 197 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:20,520 And then finally, as you are probably aware, 198 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:22,880 the transit system today is funded by a portion 199 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,260 of your transportation sales tax that's collected citywide. 200 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:32,180 The goal for this is to reduce the transit program's reliance on that sales tax revenue, 201 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:35,380 but you wouldn't probably want to shut it off right away. 202 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:44,000 You would probably want to decrement that contribution down over time to allow the new entity to receive TDD revenue sources or funds. 203 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,420 And then to help acquire vehicles as the system expands to serve the entire region. 204 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,540 Any comments or questions on those, because those are very specific to you all. 205 00:18:56,860 --> 00:18:59,920 Council, Mr. Carlin. 206 00:19:03,530 --> 00:19:08,610 You would said you, and listed visiting the surrounding community leaders, 207 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:15,670 have we talked to them about sharing in the financing of this project? 208 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:19,030 And what was their response, if you will? 209 00:19:19,910 --> 00:19:25,130 So, yeah, those members made up the steering committee and yes, we had the conversation about funding and 210 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:30,250 And the recommendation to do a sales tax and we'll get to the revenue, I think that's the next slide. 211 00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:34,250 Would that be like the general Jasper County sales tax? 212 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:35,250 Is that what we're talking about? 213 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:41,130 Yes, so currently, again, the city is funding it through the TST portion of that. 214 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:49,030 This would then grow that sort of coverage of a new sales tax to include all of Jasper and all of Joplin. 215 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:52,250 And then you would serve that new region. 216 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:55,550 And so the service would expand to meet where the revenue is being collected. 217 00:19:57,050 --> 00:20:01,270 So yes, they were part of the conversation and we put several options in front of them. 218 00:20:01,570 --> 00:20:05,170 There's an option in the TDD Act to do a property tax. 219 00:20:05,470 --> 00:20:06,370 So they said, don't do that. 220 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:09,810 Also, special assessments, don't do that. 221 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:19,030 And here's the various increments of sales tax you can do in the 8th of a cent increment all the way up to 1% and they said, let's cut it off at a half set. 222 00:20:19,030 --> 00:20:21,960 That Mr. Coppall. 223 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:36,380 Yes sir, is there an opportunity, so I'll use a fire protection district as an example to have a defined area that's not the entire county. 224 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:46,380 More or less where it divides it up into a east and a west side because I think we could keep a transit system, pretty busy servicing. 225 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:50,080 from Joplin, Duquesne, Dunnewig, Web City, Orinogo. 226 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:59,680 That's in a fairly tight area, but not have to go all the way out to Carthage, Sarcoxie. 227 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:07,480 And a lot of those other areas that are considerably further away on the east side of the county. 228 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:12,980 Split the county in half and do an east and a west, is that a possibility? 229 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:21,440 The boundary for the district is completely within the cities or whoever the two entities that created within that decision making authority. 230 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:38,180 So if you did not want to cover all of Jasper County or Jasper County chooses not to participate as the other formation partner you could absolutely bring that in or splitting it up I wouldn't necessarily recommend because the TDD needs to be contiguous according to state law. 231 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:46,560 So if you take that recommendation, it needs to be one sort of boundary and as a result, one revenue source 232 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:54,060 But you could bring it in so that you're not covering all of Jasper County and perhaps just include the cities that are interested 233 00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:59,780 And I will say that part of our follow-up outreach is to have those more specific conversations 234 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:07,480 Taking the direction from you tonight as the owner of the current system and say, okay, well the job in city council said well 235 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,060 Well, it shouldn't really maybe cover all of Jasper County. 236 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Let's bring that in. 237 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,300 So then we would instead of talking to the Jasper County government, 238 00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:20,100 talk to the local municipalities instead and see what kind of boundary makes sense based on that. 239 00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:24,500 So what my proposal was would be contiguous. 240 00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:29,280 It just wouldn't be all encompassing of the entire county. 241 00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:36,220 And it would still have its own operating board, which would be able to levy attacks. 242 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,920 for something of that nature, is that would that be accurate? 243 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Yes, you have complete control over the boundary. 244 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,860 It's creating a new political subdivision from scratch with a TDD when you do a sales tax. 245 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:55,180 So you have total control over the size, which then also determines where the revenue is collected. 246 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:56,180 Perfect, thank you. 247 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:56,960 Thanks, sir. 248 00:22:57,420 --> 00:22:58,020 Anyone else? 249 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:00,770 Please continue. 250 00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:08,750 Okay, so on to that end, on slide 16, you'll see that district does look large. 251 00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:15,230 And so we are anticipating a proposed, you know, a recommended change to what we're 252 00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:15,970 proposing. 253 00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:19,510 This is just really comes down to, quite frankly, the math. 254 00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:24,670 So you may know, but if not, sales tax is not granular. 255 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:28,410 You need to really a jurisdiction level view. 256 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:30,670 And then once you get within that jurisdiction, 257 00:23:30,850 --> 00:23:31,930 it's really hard to estimate. 258 00:23:32,610 --> 00:23:35,150 And so that's why we just picked all of Jasper County 259 00:23:35,150 --> 00:23:35,750 and all of Joplin. 260 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:38,970 It's easy to do an estimate or estimate the revenue for you. 261 00:23:39,490 --> 00:23:43,310 Once you start bringing it in and maybe not using a municipal boundary 262 00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:47,230 completely, it's a little tougher in this early analysis. 263 00:23:47,470 --> 00:23:50,230 But absolutely we can bring that boundary in. 264 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:53,070 I will note on Carthage, 265 00:23:53,070 --> 00:24:06,010 It did come up in the, both of the surveys quite often as a destination and just on a pure demographic level, it has a lot of the same factors that we noted that Joplin has as a city. 266 00:24:06,650 --> 00:24:09,790 So we did include that in there for that reason. 267 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:20,290 And I think they have attempted to operate some sort of subsidized, I think it's taxing service on and off to me address some of those needs. 268 00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:22,970 using, I believe, the city's general fund. 269 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:28,360 It's a hike to cart the trim here, as you know though. 270 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,320 So on slide 17, we'll talk a little bit about the rest of the revenue picture. 271 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:41,800 The revenue today, your 2024 transit budget was just $2.6 million funded through a combination 272 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:48,180 of federal and state grants, federal being the line share their customer fares, and a portion 273 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,180 again of the TST. 274 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:57,100 Again, the revenue options for this new TDD is sales tax, a property tax, a special assessment, 275 00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:02,800 and of course, all of the options would have fares and the existing federal and state grants. 276 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,500 And I will note, and you'll see in the asterisk, that as the region spends more locally, 277 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,100 it is able to attract more federal annual funds for operating service. 278 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:18,540 So take Carthage, for example, it is outside of your urbanized area. 279 00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:21,840 It is considered rural by the Federal Transit Administration. 280 00:25:22,340 --> 00:25:27,220 You are not currently tapping into rural transportation dollars as a city. 281 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:32,440 And this new entity could tap into those funds, which are programmed through the state of Missouri. 282 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:36,020 And grow the amount of federal funding you're bringing into the region. 283 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,240 And that's true of both the urbanized funds as well, because you're currently only serving the city of Chopin. 284 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,160 Okay, 285 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:52,370 so that's the revenue picture, a couple of supporting comments of statistics from 286 00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:52,910 the survey. 287 00:25:53,290 --> 00:26:00,130 Again, this is the statistically valid phone survey that people are 57 percent willing 288 00:26:00,130 --> 00:26:06,810 to pay more in local taxes to support transit and very limited support for the other revenue 289 00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:10,190 options which of course are steering committee also steered us away from. 290 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:27,050 And within that, the things that would improve their support for that are having performance measures and good public reporting of the spending on transit, a sunset or expiration day, which is not required in the TDD act, but is often the case. 291 00:26:27,050 --> 00:26:33,750 This listing specific projects to be funded and then perhaps directly electing a board of directors. 292 00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:40,710 In the case of a TDD, if you form it with the county, for example, electing them directly is not an option. 293 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:48,290 So again, the nonprofit gives you that option to expand your representation beyond what the TDD itself allows. 294 00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:56,250 You could have a representative from county government, all of the municipalities within Jasper County could all have a seat on that nonprofit. 295 00:26:56,250 --> 00:26:57,310 As an example, 296 00:27:00,790 --> 00:27:15,880 and of course the survey results there shown graphically onto the right slide 19 shows what a sales tax would estimate again, we're talking the city of Joplin and the entirety of Jasper County. So please take that into account. We're looking at the numbers. 297 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 The rates range from an eighth of a cent all the way up to three quarters. 298 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,140 We're including three quarters because there is an opportunity to be transformational with transit. 299 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,900 A half set gives you a noticeable improvement that could be regional. 300 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,520 So there's two big improvements there, noticeable improvement for city residents. 301 00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:37,240 And then of course, the region being served for the first time. 302 00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:39,880 And then the numbers that reflect that. 303 00:27:40,460 --> 00:27:45,500 On the third column, this is a recommendation, it's not required by law. 304 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:56,160 But having a capital revenue carve out that's codified into this program would ensure that your system remains operationally sustainable from a capital perspective. 305 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:05,040 So agencies often get in the habit and it's very good nature to put all their money out on the street, as they say, into operations service service service. 306 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:10,600 But sometimes that comes at the expense of your fleet and the things you need to get service out on the street. 307 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,620 And so this would essentially force that entity to be good stewards of the assets, which 308 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:16,600 are also federally funded. 309 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,300 So you have obligations there to keep them in what's called a state of good repair. 310 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,540 This would sort of force that into being. 311 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:31,480 And I go, of course, all of this is based on assumptions that we're using 2024 data that 312 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:37,680 the first year revenue would be generated from a district would be 2027, and no estimated 313 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,940 increase in sales tax to be very, very conservative. 314 00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:46,540 So sales tax fluctuates as you're all aware, as elected officials. 315 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:52,620 And so a system based entirely on that probably has to account for zero growth in the long term. 316 00:28:57,380 --> 00:29:03,280 All right, so our recommendation slide 20 is half-sales tax. 317 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,280 Again, the property tax and special assessments were not popular both in the survey. 318 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,080 And with the steering committee and the steering committee says, you know, 1% is too much. 319 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Let's shoot for a little bit lower and we can still be transformative. 320 00:29:19,180 --> 00:29:24,780 The half cent would allow expansion throughout the city and improve frequency. 321 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,120 So that's how often the bus arrives in the case of trolley and also adds Saturday service for the first time. 322 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,740 So thinking about the population that the transit system serves here and in many cities. 323 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:39,920 It's really become more of a seven-day need because of the jobs, right? 324 00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:45,600 So these are not typical office jobs, eight to five Monday through Friday, like a lot of us enjoy. 325 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:53,180 The jobs are more retail, light industrial, and they tend to have sort of a seven-day look 326 00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:55,700 on shifts and things like that. 327 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,940 So Saturday and Sunday service, which we're not actually right. 328 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Meeting, yes, Sunday, but that becomes more critical. And again, the 10% capital set aside to maintain that state of good repair. 329 00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:31,930 All right, so on to what you would be buying if you advance that recommendation. So slide 22. Kind of breaks down between the two services you provide today, which in transit speak, we call them fixed route. So a fixed route line on a map and a fixed schedule. You call it the trolley, which is great. 330 00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:36,070 They love that nod to history, the existing service and then what's recommended. 331 00:30:37,050 --> 00:30:41,270 And then demand response, which literally means if there's no trip requested, the vehicle 332 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:41,790 isn't moving. 333 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:43,870 So very different than fixed route. 334 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:46,110 And that service is called maps. 335 00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:51,710 And when certain eligibility factors are met, it's also called pair transit. 336 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:56,310 So again, the existing service is pretty limited. 337 00:30:57,110 --> 00:31:00,470 And it operates in loops, which most people don't travel in loops. 338 00:31:00,470 --> 00:31:05,470 you tend to go in one direction so we would propose changing that and increasing the number of 339 00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:12,350 lines from 3 to 7. So a significant increase in just what it looks like on a map. And we would be 340 00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:18,410 including service to Dunnowig, Duquesne, and Carthage and increasing the frequency on some routes 341 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:23,490 to every 30 minutes instead of every hour. So imagine if you're subjecting yourself to a bus 342 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:29,510 schedule and the bus that you miss the bus that's coming every hour, when you increase that to every 343 00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:33,490 330 minutes, the chances you're going to get somewhere on time improve pretty dramatically. 344 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:40,530 And we're not proposing any change to your current fair structure, which is $2 for trip for 345 00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:47,630 a base fair, and then a reduced fair for seniors disabled, who qualify in military medicare. 346 00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:53,070 And on the map side, it would grow from currently serving the city, and 347 00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:57,710 then other cities by request where they reimburse you for those trips, not the full amount by the way. 348 00:31:58,510 --> 00:32:11,750 to a countywide service or whatever the district boundary becomes, leaving the fair structure in place and then then providing a what we call a complimentary ADA pair transit to the fixed route system. 349 00:32:13,550 --> 00:32:23,390 Consultants speak that's essentially required by the Americans with disability act so you can't really control it. It's sort of an unfunded mandate but when you grow that system you have to grow that service with it. 350 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:29,250 And then, and it's kind of in the same style as maps, and that would also extend to 351 00:32:29,250 --> 00:32:32,670 Saturdays is our recommendation as well for all the same reasons we listed. 352 00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:37,310 So that was a lot. 353 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:41,930 So feel free if you have any questions to at the end because the service, you know, it's 354 00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:48,290 important to understand why we do certain services in certain places and at certain levels. 355 00:32:48,830 --> 00:32:53,210 So these are our technical recommendations, but every transit system in America has a political 356 00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:58,150 consideration where the lines on the map go who get served because not everyone can be served equally 357 00:32:58,150 --> 00:33:03,210 unlike fire and trash, which tend to kind of get everybody. Transit only goes to certain places 358 00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:10,910 because there's never enough money to go around to everybody. On slide 23 you'll see the comparison 359 00:33:10,910 --> 00:33:19,110 of both the funding area and the services themselves so growing quite a bit. The shaded blue area is 360 00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:23,070 your map service so that's again picking people up where they are and taking them where 361 00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:28,790 they want to go and then the green and then red lines are your trolley routes proposed 362 00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:33,450 or current and then recommended and then how frequent they will run according to the 363 00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:41,950 legend up top and then so you're seeing quite a bit of coverage growth here in correspondence 364 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:43,510 on its to the size of the district. 365 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Slide 24, again, the trade-off here is always between what we call coverage and frequency. 366 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:59,700 So you can make the trolley run more often, but if you're given X amount of money, if 367 00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:01,280 you make it run more often, that's more money. 368 00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:04,040 If you make it go more places, that's more money. 369 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,640 So that's a balance that every agency including yours has to make all the time, including with 370 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,340 your current service. 371 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:20,000 So, as we grow the districts or grow the service area, we have to think about how often those buses are running as well because it's all coming from the same bucket. 372 00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:27,040 Serving more locations in the region with a trolley route was something we heard loud and clear from the surveys. 373 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:38,820 And it will require more people will use the service and that will contribute to the traction of federal funds into the region as well since it's partially based on ridership. 374 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:44,800 But increasing the sales tax is also an option to add additional services if you see something 375 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,540 that you think should be covered but then those are also the trade-off again of coverage 376 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:50,260 and frequency. 377 00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:58,160 But increasing that sales tax again would probably run a file of some of the political feedback 378 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,320 we've received from both the steering committee and the survey. 379 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:08,900 So finally, our next steps, we put a lot in front of you tonight, but here's what the project 380 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:13,940 is doing to finish out by the end of the year that we plan to convene the steering committee 381 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:21,720 a third time, perhaps with some more work to do, then a session tonight to get guidance 382 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,900 from you. Then we'll be doing immediately after tonight some additional elected official 383 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:32,740 outreach, some people that we didn't get in the room for the steering committee. You'll see 384 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:37,900 them listed there. And then we will deliver, again, an actionable implementation plan for 385 00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:43,620 city staff and whoever your partner is, if you choose to advance a TDD to get that across 386 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:47,380 the finish line. And we know you have other things on the docket as far as elections 387 00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:52,280 and things like that, so that'll be a completely up to you. We're putting this forward as sort 388 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:59,300 of date, agnostic and can be implemented whenever you're ready. And that's a plan, that implementation 389 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:05,400 plan would be ready for you and the team to advance by the end of December this year. 390 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,860 with that I'll take additional questions. 391 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,600 All right, Mr. Dittor, we'll let you get it going. 392 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:14,960 Thank you, Mayor. 393 00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:19,000 Thanks for the information, obviously a lot, 394 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,580 and I know you guys put a lot of hard work in to it 395 00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:21,140 and appreciate that. 396 00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:24,340 But just throw down a couple of questions 397 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:25,700 and really looking at the service. 398 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,500 What was the deciding factor of the steering committee 399 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,340 when they were looking at this, 400 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,140 and they were looking at the fixed routes, right? 401 00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:33,120 So we've got the 30-minute routes and a job one. 402 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:35,520 But then we're going all the way over to Carthage, 403 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:42,340 And not really hitting like Web City card to build some of these closer areas to me and I'm obviously I'm not wasn't a part of this 404 00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:46,260 Kind of seems like you would we'd want to start closer and expand out 405 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:52,340 But I don't know what this is what was the factors that determine that decision if you would expand on that 406 00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:54,220 I'm sure a lot of people absolutely councilman 407 00:36:54,220 --> 00:37:00,500 So again, you're seeing the technical analysis and as I mentioned earlier every transit system takes into account 408 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,780 political you know considerations and so often that comes 409 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:06,580 in with coverage, right? 410 00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:08,480 So the line on the map doesn't go to my community. 411 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,560 I'm contributing to the cost of the system. 412 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,000 Those communities are getting maps service. 413 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,840 So that's a given, but it doesn't show up 414 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,620 as a line on a map. 415 00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:23,120 So if asked the technical perspective would be, 416 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,620 we're looking at demographics, 417 00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:26,400 the drive transit use and need. 418 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:29,880 And that's more need, there's more of a need 419 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,860 in Carthage than say Web City, right? 420 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,100 And that probably doesn't need a lot of explanation, 421 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:39,580 But when you just look at the data, household incomes, you know, access. 422 00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:40,820 I'm manufacturing jobs, I'm imagining. 423 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,060 Yes. 424 00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:44,740 I'm a little bit more in Carthage than maybe there are in Web City or Carterville. 425 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:46,980 That's kind of some of the reasons why. 426 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:52,220 And then the need, maybe the demographic of the population was a little bit different in those areas. 427 00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:54,780 Another question I've got a couple more. 428 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,720 So we brought up maps. 429 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,200 We're talking about maps when we're doing that. 430 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,660 How many more maps vehicles were we would be part of? 431 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,800 Because I imagine we don't have enough that you do not. 432 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,380 Right. 433 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:11,120 So growing the service, that will be part of the implementation plan. 434 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:21,240 So once we have clarity on the size of the district, which will then provide clarity on the revenue that comes in and then the level of service you can provide, then you can calculate the number of vehicles you need. 435 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:28,960 So it's really just a math problem and we need those inputs to be kind of answered first before we say you need 20 more vehicles or whatever it is. 436 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,000 The good news with vehicles is that the federal government is very generous, 80% match. 437 00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:38,740 The state of Missouri has a vehicle contract where you can save some money by ordering through them. 438 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:46,120 Your options reduce, but that's pretty much a small consideration when you realize how much easier it is to do. 439 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:50,760 Staff is already actually looking at that, by the way, because they hadn't been done historically. 440 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:56,440 And so, yeah, it's the capital part is generous, less so operating, but 441 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,980 But because of Joplin's size, you do get 50% match for operations. 442 00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:04,720 So again, growing service will attract, even if you don't buy more vehicles, 443 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,480 growing the service would attract more federal funds. 444 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,380 So yes, so if the need is there, it's the demand is there, 445 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,220 then we're going to get some more funding for capacity on that, right? 446 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:14,600 We're going to meet that capacity. 447 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,540 But, you know, and then kind of where everything hits the road is dollars, right? 448 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,820 We do anything we want, it just takes the money to do it, right? 449 00:39:22,580 --> 00:39:25,760 When we talk, when you guys are mentioning that sales tax, is that just a brick and 450 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160 What are tax or is that retail sales? 451 00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:29,220 That's what's allowed. 452 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:30,580 No use tax money in there. 453 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:33,260 No, unfortunately use tax, well, I shouldn't say that. 454 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,100 The use tax is not allowed in the TDD statute. 455 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,720 Okay, yes, I know different communities do don't have 456 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:41,380 and say that's why it's kind of one and all. 457 00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:44,620 I think it's allowed in the CID act, but not the TDD act, 458 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,760 but it doesn't matter because that's not what we're 459 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,020 recommending. 460 00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:48,220 Okay, that's fine. 461 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:50,020 Thank you, that was those were my questions. 462 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:50,800 Thank you, Mayor. 463 00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:53,420 Mr. Carpone. 464 00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:57,300 Can we go to slide 19, please? 465 00:40:03,130 --> 00:40:08,590 So you sounded when you were talking about the estimated revenue that you're kind of unsure 466 00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:15,410 what it would bring in and that this was just purely estimated, correct? 467 00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:23,310 So it is confident when you use a existing jurisdictional boundary, right? 468 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:26,010 So, again, that's from the Missouri Department of Revenue. 469 00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:31,030 They know exactly how much sales tax, Jasper County, for example, in the City of Joplin, collect. 470 00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:34,450 When you change the boundary to be less than or different than it? 471 00:40:34,610 --> 00:40:35,110 Sure, yeah. 472 00:40:35,530 --> 00:40:46,550 I'm just wondering, it'd be pretty simple to make one phone call to Jasco, because they do a half cent sales tax, which includes the City of Joplin and the rest of Jasper County. 473 00:40:46,810 --> 00:40:49,450 Now, it doesn't get the Newton County portion, but that's not very much. 474 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:58,490 You just seem like you were stretching to, you know, for an accurate accomplishment of this number. 475 00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:00,330 Back to slide 18, please. 476 00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:12,790 So your statement, 57% of community survey respondents would be willing to pay more in local taxes than to get down to the blue slide. 477 00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:21,710 44% say not supported of any new tax which already defeats the 57 number then to 478 00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:32,130 my math 34 plus 8 plus 4 is 46 not 57 with 10% being unsure or refused to 479 00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:37,110 answer so I don't think you could include them in that number so I question your 480 00:41:37,110 --> 00:41:40,170 your slides there. 22, please. 481 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:50,060 On your recommendation of 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. 482 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,560 Joblin is a very manufacturing, job, centric, entity, carthage as well. You even 483 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:04,000 mentioned trying to provide services for manufacturing type jobs and that 484 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,240 carthage would be more in tune with that than others. An awful lot of our 485 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,920 manufacturing jobs in this area, work 12-hour shifts. 486 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:18,220 So ending a trolley at 6 p.m., yeah, the 6 a.m. 487 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:21,180 may be able to get them to work, but ending the trolley at 6 p.m. 488 00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:22,060 It's not going to get them home. 489 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:30,020 So what good is this going to do if we don't look at our businesses or even go into maybe 490 00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:37,760 a partnership with our businesses and say, hey, if you can do 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. shifts, 491 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:47,220 We will run the trolley from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. or whatever to encompass that. 492 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,880 If you can line up your shift schedules that way, we can do that. 493 00:42:52,280 --> 00:43:01,320 But doing a 12 hour system, when our jobs work, 12 hour shifts and schedules, doesn't work. 494 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,660 That math ain't math in there. 495 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:10,120 So I do have a little bit of a problem with that aspect of it. 496 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,600 Thanks, sir. 497 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,160 I would note on the hours are, again, this is our recommendation. 498 00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:21,260 So if you want to advance where we cover more hours, 499 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,640 it just needs to come at the expense of something else within the 500 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,580 amount of revenue coming in. 501 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,420 So it is a lever you can move absolutely, 502 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:33,260 just like the lines on the map in the days of the week. 503 00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:36,960 Okay, so did you consider that whenever you put together these recommendations? 504 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,360 Yes, absolutely. 505 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,580 I mean, you know, that is one of the job types that we've mentioned, but there's also retail. 506 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,680 Then there are people that do actually work a traditional schedule. 507 00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:52,560 And that is just the challenge with expanding transit throughout the schedule. 508 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:59,180 Because as you get later in the day, a ridership almost always drops off even if people do need it to get to ship. 509 00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:04,380 So you try to just it's just a balancing act of so how many of our 510 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,480 Major job suppliers, especially in the manufacturing and entities 511 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,300 Did you make contact with 512 00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:17,060 We actually didn't reach out to any employers yet. So that's not it 513 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:22,100 Anyone else 514 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:29,570 Council I think that I've seen in this presentation 515 00:44:29,570 --> 00:44:32,030 Drew can we get to the last slide, please? 516 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,080 I think where we are here on October 20th is looking for guidance in the next steps confirmation. 517 00:44:40,580 --> 00:44:45,000 So any discussion on guidance that we're willing to give here, 518 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:48,080 Mr. Jackson? 519 00:44:48,620 --> 00:44:51,740 Yes, I think something he mentioned right at the end of his conversation. 520 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,040 Mr. Coppel is some of the next steps will probably be talking to the employers. 521 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,700 And I can remember probably about two years ago there was an economic forum that was held here in town. 522 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,860 Transportation was one of the identified needs from some of those major employers in the community, so I think if we could start looking at what these other pieces of data are, what those needs are, you know, outside of the government entities that are involved, just start looking at the operational business entities, maybe that could help us, you know, make a more informed decision. Anyone else? 523 00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:30,730 Mrs. Carlton. 524 00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:48,250 I'd like to look at what other communities be at Web City, Carthage, Carterville certainly are more rural areas and qualify for more rural funding as opposed to Joplin, the more urban area. 525 00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:53,910 So is there a potential this thing can really support itself, if you will? 526 00:45:55,130 --> 00:46:01,190 So the rural funding is similar to the funding the city already receives today, so it's a 50% match for operations. 527 00:46:01,630 --> 00:46:07,050 So by now there are no local contributions for rural service in the region we're looking at. 528 00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:13,330 I guess what we'd need to look at is Web City or Carthage, let's say we know Carthage is a rural area. 529 00:46:13,950 --> 00:46:20,930 Is Carthage willing to match the 50% in order to get the rural funding to help pay for the service? 530 00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:23,790 Those are the kind of questions I would ask. 531 00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:30,810 So the recommendation is to include those cities in the collection of the transportation development district sales tax. 532 00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:37,150 So they would be contributing through that mechanism, rather than from their general fund or some other. 533 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:41,070 And mechanism like a transportation sales tax or something. 534 00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:43,650 Would that necessarily be 50%? 535 00:46:44,570 --> 00:46:50,250 We can certainly do the calculation if the final decision is to include those communities in the district boundary. 536 00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:54,970 to determine how much money they're generating, and does it match up with the cost of service they're getting? 537 00:46:55,370 --> 00:47:02,330 Right now we haven't done that analysis because we're still trying to make sure we have direction from everyone on the boundary and the revenue source. 538 00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:09,830 I just think we need to know that before we can really make a commitment and move forward. 539 00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:18,650 As well as we would have to know that we had a tax, a sales tax coming in, but I would need to know that 540 00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:26,270 And those communities we're talking about servicing would really help in the support of the transit system. 541 00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:29,590 It is information that can be known. 542 00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:34,590 So we will take that as a note and make sure that's calculated in the updated plan. 543 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,990 Mr. D. Tar. 544 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,440 Thank you, Mayor. 545 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,460 I thought we're looking at the recommendation proposed next steps, but 546 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:52,200 you said earlier when we first started like this is something that could be way down the 547 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,700 future right this can be five six years from now you know we're gonna be sure I don't 548 00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,700 know but it's so I just don't know I'm like are we are we looking at doing something getting 549 00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:06,440 some taking these next steps that then this is going to get to a point where we're like 550 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:13,720 we're not ready to do this yet so let's put it on the shelf so at what point are we I got 551 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,900 figured my bourbon here and I don't want to say it wrong but other than a lack of better 552 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:20,520 or words, is it wasting people's time to get together 553 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,580 and move forward at this point? 554 00:48:22,060 --> 00:48:23,720 I don't know, so maybe that's the discussion 555 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:26,280 we should be having, or is it makes sense 556 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,440 to kind of move forward, get to a certain point, 557 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,900 like the implementation point, like get to that point, 558 00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,080 and then we're like, yeah, we're going to shelf this, 559 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,800 or do we just kind of nip it in the mud now? 560 00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:38,780 That's kind of my concern is that we go do all this work, 561 00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:40,380 we get all these people together to do all this thing, 562 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,420 take the time, and then we're like, 563 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,080 hey, we're going to hold off forever. 564 00:48:43,580 --> 00:48:44,860 Yeah, and we've had these discussions, 565 00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:47,060 so we're trying to gather as much information 566 00:48:47,060 --> 00:48:53,720 As we can now inform what an implementation plan might look like look like in the future 567 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,680 Okay, whatever that is. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, too 568 00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:59,770 Mr. Shaw 569 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,820 On the page here where it shows all the mayors of all those different organizations 570 00:49:06,820 --> 00:49:11,300 Did we just list these or did these people actually participate? 571 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,640 So I believe they're listed as invitees and then I think at the bottom of that 572 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:27,380 That box we indicated who actually was in the room in person, and then we had some follow-up discussions with people who agreed to meet with us that weren't in the room. 573 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,000 So it's a much smaller group than the invitee list to your point. 574 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,440 Not everybody agreed to participate in the discussion. 575 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:47,600 I'm not concerned as in looking at that list because history shows that it's hard to get all those people to agree on things together, so I just want to thank you. 576 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,280 That's all I would also add that, you know, that was the original invite list. 577 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:59,660 We're trying to land on dates to meet on people in the case they could be there, weren't there, others came, so that was part of it. 578 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,020 That's where we had a follow up meeting and we're going to have a third one as well. 579 00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:09,420 And then what's not shown on here is we also went and met separately, which each of the county commissions to gather there and put. 580 00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:13,770 Mr. Lawson. 581 00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:25,540 I'm mindful of the time when you could get on a trolley in Carthage and make your way all the way to picture Oklahoma. 582 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:33,540 Gary may have been here then, I wasn't, but anyway, 583 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,520 I think we're trying to attract more industry to jobless. 584 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:46,080 And one of the big challenges is finding employees to work those businesses. 585 00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:54,860 And I also think that Joplin is not just within the confines of our city limits. 586 00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:03,280 Joplin is part of the broader community and what's good for the broader community is good for Joplin. 587 00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:07,740 And that's just my way of saying I think we should pursue this. 588 00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:08,460 anyone 589 00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:18,530 else? I think taking a look at these opportunities to expand public 590 00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:23,990 transportation in our community is worthwhile. Take a look at. I think tonight's 591 00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:28,330 presentation is also let us take a look at, you know, what's that going to cost 592 00:51:28,330 --> 00:51:33,130 and what is all going to entail and, you know, this isn't as simple as flipping a 593 00:51:33,130 --> 00:51:38,950 switch and everything is there. So I'm definitely willing to continue having the 594 00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:44,950 conversation but what I'm hearing from the council tonight as far as next steps and guidance 595 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:51,990 is let's go talk to those employers let's get as many of these people in the room as possible 596 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:58,430 get their take on things and and and then we come back and maybe have some more 597 00:51:59,690 --> 00:52:05,990 meat to put on the bone if you will to try to get in a better spot to make a more informed and 598 00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:15,210 complete decision. So, would that be accurate council? Okay, sounds good. Thank you, gentlemen. 599 00:52:15,790 --> 00:52:16,930 Appreciate you very much. 600 00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:20,140 Next item, please. 601 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,460 Winter weather preparedness, snow and ice control. 602 00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:28,090 Good evening, sir. 603 00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:34,330 Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, council. So, I'm going to speak a little tonight on our winter 604 00:52:34,330 --> 00:52:42,310 Under whether preparedness and snow and ice control program before I get going here or introduce a couple of gentlemen. 605 00:52:42,670 --> 00:52:47,970 I have Scott Boofer, he's our infrastructure superintendent, he's standing there. 606 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:53,170 And then also I have Cody Marty, he's our streets and stormwater infrastructure maintenance supervisor. 607 00:52:53,930 --> 00:53:00,710 These are the two gentlemen that I depend on heavily during winter storms or ice events. 608 00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:05,110 Between the two of them, they have over 25 years of combined experience. 609 00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:11,590 So they're a wealth of knowledge, and they make a lot of important decisions when it comes to the safety and 610 00:53:11,590 --> 00:53:13,530 well-being of the citizens, we're 611 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:17,830 on them up here. 612 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:22,790 So I'm going to do a little overview here. 613 00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:27,570 The Public Works Infrastructure Maintenance Division performs snow and 614 00:53:27,570 --> 00:53:32,510 ice control on all bridges, arterial streets and collector streets. 615 00:53:32,510 --> 00:53:45,250 The Infrastructure Maintenance Division leaders annually attend the American Public Works Association's snow conference for insight and training and snow and ice control best practices. 616 00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:55,730 The goal of the snow and ice control program is to provide adequate mobility and safety for citizens and emergency services. 617 00:53:57,150 --> 00:54:20,650 In addition to bridges and streets, the infrastructure maintenance division treats and clears trolley stops, but you're familiar with those from the last presentation sidewalks adjacent to city owned facilities, trouble areas which are historically steep grades and intersections that we deal with year after year and public parking lots. 618 00:54:21,970 --> 00:54:27,550 So, event preparation begins way before the start of an event. 619 00:54:28,310 --> 00:54:34,110 So it begins when extended forecast, predict possibility of winter weather for the area. 620 00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:39,450 And then as the weather system approaches, our staff begins to monitor the national 621 00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:45,470 weather service, hazardous weather outlook, we monitor short range forecast from local media. 622 00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:51,090 And then we always consult with emergency management to get a handle on everything that's 623 00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:51,570 going on. 624 00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:57,290 And then when winter weather is imminent, and we know it's coming, our crews are staged 625 00:54:57,290 --> 00:54:58,530 and we get ready for the event. 626 00:55:04,110 --> 00:55:05,270 So winter weather preparedness. 627 00:55:07,090 --> 00:55:12,250 We basically use three categories when we're preparing for a winter weather event. 628 00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:17,590 There's material and inventory purchases that we're having very early on. 629 00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:22,630 equipment preparation and operator training, and then event priorities. 630 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:34,560 As far as materials, the materials that we use, we purchase those in bulk during the 631 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:41,880 off season, we typically do that in late summer, and it basically depends on the quantities 632 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:49,420 that we get that we purchase based on historic usage and our current inventory. 633 00:55:49,420 --> 00:56:01,200 So, going into this season, as far as road salt, we purchased 1,200 tons of road salt and 4,500 gallons of beet juice. 634 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,160 Equipment operations or equipment preparation and operator training, this is a really important aspect. 635 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:19,160 So, our preseason preparations, which is right now, late October, early November. 636 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,560 Remember, we have some new operators every year. 637 00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:28,300 We have new operators this year, about 20% of our operators are new. 638 00:56:28,420 --> 00:56:30,900 They've never driven a snow route in the City of Joplin. 639 00:56:33,140 --> 00:56:41,880 Out of the remainder of our staff, about 30% have five plus seasons under their belt, which is good. 640 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:46,240 You always want that experience, and then the remaining 50% have between one and four seasons. 641 00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:50,780 So, compared to years past, we have a lot of experience on the plows. 642 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,120 To prepare for the season coming up, we do a lot of inspections. 643 00:56:57,380 --> 00:56:59,920 We get a lot of help from the garage. They do a lot of these. 644 00:57:00,980 --> 00:57:05,260 Our snow boxes are inspected. Our snow plows and the blades are inspected 645 00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:07,920 to make sure they operate like they should. 646 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,180 And then we go through all of the lights on the trucks and the snow boxes 647 00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:17,700 to verify that they're working in proper order. 648 00:57:18,380 --> 00:57:27,840 One note I'd like to make for this year, we just got done installing brand new LED lights on all of our snow plows and all of our trucks. 649 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:38,660 So we noticed last year during the heavy snow we got in February that the difference between Modot's trucks and our trucks was significant. 650 00:57:38,660 --> 00:57:48,440 So we made the decision to go ahead and put LED lights on our trucks, and it's going to make a big difference for safety for our drivers and for the public. 651 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:56,700 So pre-event preparations, this is the 24 to 48 hours before the actual event happens. 652 00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:05,980 Our crews, they start to mix the brine, which is a solution of salt and water, that's mixed to 23.3% salinity. 653 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:16,200 We make drier runs with our operators on the routes, and during those drier runs, they're checking for things like obstacles and 654 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:22,740 obstructions, work zones, utility cuts, if you think it could be an issue once they're covered with snow. 655 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,940 And they make mental notes of those. 656 00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:31,080 And then we do when they come in, we do a final pre-event equipment inspection. 657 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,940 So snow and ice control priorities during an event. 658 00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:44,780 Number one is bridges. 659 00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:50,940 Everybody knows you've seen the signs of bridges ice before the roads, so we keep it really close. 660 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:57,480 Close watch on those streets are number two, very close second. 661 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:04,980 And then we have trolley stops, sidewalks adjacent to city owned facilities, these two items. 662 00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:11,080 We typically use our crew members who don't have a CDL to do these tasks. 663 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:17,480 So while the CDL drivers are out treating the bridges in the streets, 664 00:59:18,340 --> 00:59:22,480 our other crew members without CDLs are doing the trolley stops and the sidewalks. 665 00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:29,300 And then we have the trouble areas that I spoke about earlier, public parking lots, and then medical centers in schools. 666 00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:46,420 The medical centers in schools, Freeman and Mercy, they take care of everything within their medical center, but the roads around those centers, Freeman, for instance, 32nd Street, Macintosh Circle, we make sure those are cleared. 667 00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:56,340 And then Mercy, you have Indiana Avenue on the east side and the 50th Street on the south, we make sure those are cleared, they're actually part of our routes. 668 00:59:56,340 --> 00:59:59,200 and then schools 669 01:00:00,940 --> 01:00:10,400 Typically, they're out of school when we have a big snow. So, we don't worry about those too much. But if we get a big one, we'll help them out and try to get it cleared so they can come back. 670 01:00:12,830 --> 01:00:29,090 Next slide, please, true. So, we'll talk a little bit of bridges here. Bridges are prone to ice formation when air temperature is slightly below freezing. And bridges are monitored and treated with assault, brine, combination, prior to freezing temperatures. 671 01:00:30,010 --> 01:00:47,750 Scott and Cody keep a very close watch on the bridges as as a storm is moving in those are the first things we go out and we tackle typically we have eight bridges that we monitor throughout the city and 672 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:51,250 And to treat those bridges, it takes 673 01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:58,090 hour and a half, two hours, about two hours to do those from start to finish. 674 01:00:59,470 --> 01:01:01,450 We don't send out an entire fleet of trucks. 675 01:01:01,830 --> 01:01:05,830 Typically, we have one or two trucks that do that because it's really early on in the event. 676 01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:14,040 As far as the streets go, we only plow arterial and collector streets. 677 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,720 Streets are treated with a combination of salt and 678 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,460 and Brian before and during plowing. 679 01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:25,620 Trucks are used in tandem during plowing operations. 680 01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:29,320 You can see these slides, the bottom slide there. 681 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,320 That shows our trucks working in tandem. 682 01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,220 Now we also on our larger arterials 683 01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:39,680 like 20th street, streets like that, 684 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,440 the really widens of five lanes. 685 01:01:42,220 --> 01:01:45,020 We'll use three vehicles, three trucks. 686 01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:53,560 You'll have the two with the big plows pushing the stuff to the side, and then we have another truck that follows that does the intricate work along the curb. 687 01:01:54,540 --> 01:02:01,460 Herbs can wreak havoc on the snow plow, so usually the operators in the third truck, those are the guys that have a lot of experience. 688 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:14,800 We have four fixed routes, and we run those routes simultaneously, and each route takes approximately four hours, so we can run all of our routes in a four hour timeframe. 689 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,180 These next slides are our snow route maps. 690 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,180 You can kind of see how it's laid out here, four different areas. 691 01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:35,700 These have been developed over time for efficiency and safety. 692 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:44,000 These trucks are big, visibility is not the best, so these routes, they're situated toward 693 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,820 they can make their turnarounds and be fishing at that and safe. 694 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,440 You will notice you can go through those in your own pace there. 695 01:02:56,540 --> 01:03:01,600 There's a slide at the end that has everything combined just to give you an idea of the amount 696 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,380 of area that we cover. 697 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:12,940 You will notice that some familiar streets aren't included on our snow routes like 32nd 698 01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:20,740 Street, East of Maine, 7th Street, Range Line, North Maine, North of Murphy Boulevard, 699 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,620 Newman Road, that's East of Range Line that goes out towards Missouri Southern. 700 01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:31,540 Those are all state highways, so we don't maintain those during snowstorms, 701 01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:33,520 Mo.Maintains those. 702 01:03:34,620 --> 01:03:37,400 We get a lot of calls on those streets. 703 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,040 Not that they don't do a good job, they do a great job. 704 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,940 But our schedules don't align. 705 01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:49,460 So we could have main street plowed and look in really good up to Murphy and then as soon as you cross Murphy Boulevard 706 01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:53,280 You'll see a huge difference. That's why their priorities are 707 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,680 I-44 708 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:57,480 So 709 01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:10,830 anti-ice pre-treatment. This is always a subject people are interested in so this is an alternative method to 710 01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:16,050 pre-treat our streets before a storm comes in 711 01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:31,570 So, anti-ice can be applied to dry roads and bridge services up to 12 hours prior to a winter weather event if conditions allow and we would prefer to do this overnight. 712 01:04:32,370 --> 01:04:44,130 That allows the mixture to soak into the pavement and in the evening and at night in the winter time, there's not as much traffic on these streets. 713 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:49,410 rates, so it's not being spread out by car tires, it's actually soaking into the pavement. 714 01:04:50,830 --> 01:04:58,510 It consists of 90% brine and 10% beet juice, and what it does is it forms a barrier between 715 01:04:58,970 --> 01:05:05,510 the roadway surface and the snow or the ice, whichever is coming down, and it helps to prevent 716 01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:07,410 bonding between those. 717 01:05:08,970 --> 01:05:12,330 Pre-treating all four of our routes takes approximately nine hours. 718 01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:14,290 So, you can do the math there. 719 01:05:15,090 --> 01:05:21,810 We have a 12-hour window, takes nine hours to pretreat these routes, so we have a very 720 01:05:21,810 --> 01:05:25,170 short window there to get this done. 721 01:05:25,710 --> 01:05:32,690 We have two trucks, the slide or the pictures there on the left, that's one of our trucks. 722 01:05:32,690 --> 01:05:35,430 We have two trucks that are outfitted for an IIS application. 723 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:42,910 We did request another truck in the 26 budget. 724 01:05:43,610 --> 01:05:44,870 Thank you for approving that. 725 01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:52,630 We're hopeful that we can at least get the tank and the application apparatus in before January. 726 01:05:53,030 --> 01:05:55,370 And we can use these in any truck that we have. 727 01:05:56,110 --> 01:06:01,170 As a matter of fact, the ones we have now, we go out and apply this. 728 01:06:01,450 --> 01:06:04,070 And then when we're done, those trucks go back. 729 01:06:04,070 --> 01:06:09,470 We take the tanks out, and then we put the snow boxes in because they're also used to plow. 730 01:06:12,140 --> 01:06:20,420 Unfortunately, NIIs is not an option if pavement temperatures are below 15 degrees or if rain or freezing rain occurs prior to or 731 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:24,940 Be expected to be during an event. So which happens a lot around here? 732 01:06:25,540 --> 01:06:30,960 You go from rain to freezing rain to snow, but we do have a lot of opportunities to use it. 733 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:39,480 If weather conditions prevent an IIS application, then the standard treatment methods are used for snow and ice, which is dissolved in brine combination. 734 01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:46,660 So I have a few highlights here from 2025. 735 01:06:47,860 --> 01:06:55,160 We actually had four winter weather events last year from I think maybe late December through February. 736 01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:59,320 Two of those events, they really didn't amount to much. 737 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:08,040 We did treat the bridges and the roads, but we didn't even drop a plow on either one of those. 738 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,100 But we did have to that we push some snow January 9th and 10th. 739 01:07:15,460 --> 01:07:16,980 We had three to five inches. 740 01:07:18,860 --> 01:07:22,000 We worked from the first snowfall. 741 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,580 It took us about 24 hours to get all of our routes cleared. 742 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:53,460 and then February 18th and 19th. Everyone might remember this one. This is the 6 to 10 inch winter storm that shut down I-44, rerouted traffic onto range line. We had a lot of a lot of issues, but we worked with the Fire Department, the emergency responders, MoDOT, and within 36 hours from the beginning of that storm. 743 01:07:53,460 --> 01:08:00,600 We had our roads passable and both of those storms we were able to pre-treat with the 744 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,240 anti-eyes. 745 01:08:01,660 --> 01:08:08,340 So we made a tremendous difference within here's some totals from after from those from the 746 01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:08,780 whole season. 747 01:08:09,340 --> 01:08:18,320 We used just a little over 1,000 tons of road salt, 6,625 gallons of brine and 2,700 gallons 748 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,100 of beaches. 749 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,400 So, there's a short video I'd like you guys to watch. 750 01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:25,920 You may have seen this already. 751 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:31,800 It's a show me Joplin video that Drew and his communications department, friends Wallace, 752 01:08:32,380 --> 01:08:33,880 produced this, put it together. 753 01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:40,460 It will touch on almost everything I just talked about, but it'll do it in about two minutes. 754 01:08:41,740 --> 01:08:41,760 So. 755 01:08:50,060 --> 01:08:54,140 Before the first snow of the season, the streets crew and the Joplin public works department 756 01:08:54,140 --> 01:08:59,940 is planning and getting ready for the worst winter weather. We start planning in early 757 01:09:00,740 --> 01:09:06,320 fall or even in the summertime. We start purchasing our salt and summer time. Then when fall comes 758 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:11,400 you know we'll start preparing our guys on the droughts and training on equipment. Connecting 759 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,420 foul blades to trucks, loading and filling salt blotches and spreaders and preparing a mixture of 760 01:09:16,420 --> 01:09:20,920 beet juice and brine which is salty water used as a pre-treatment or weather conditions allow. 761 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,460 That mixture creates a barrier between snow and the street making it easier to 762 01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:29,240 clear away snow before it sticks and reeds. When it comes up to an actual snow 763 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,940 event we'll have certain guys designated certain trucks and routes and they 764 01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:38,600 know ahead of time where they're going. Running two different shifts a day and 765 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,600 night shift. The crews will focus first on bridges, primary and secondary or 766 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,660 trivial streets, then work their way towards collector streets, and finally known 767 01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:51,740 problem areas such as hills and curses which are dangerous with sling. We don't 768 01:09:51,740 --> 01:09:55,700 plow in residential areas. Joplin, like many cities in the west, can't afford to 769 01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:59,400 have the number of cloud trucks and drivers who would take to plow every mile of 770 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,460 every neighborhood street. Finally, narrow neighborhood streets with cars, 771 01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:07,640 parked alone, and could also very beautiful. We'd be plowing in their driveways, 772 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,920 covering driveways up, and it actually makes it harder to get out. With the 773 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,720 resources we have, it's hard enough to keep the top priority areas clear of snow 774 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:19,720 If you can make it to that main road, that's where the plowing and the material happens. 775 01:10:19,940 --> 01:10:24,720 Cody Marty's team in the public works department takes part in following best practices for snow removal 776 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,200 and getting streets back to safe driving conditions as fast as possible. 777 01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:34,020 Just know that we're trying our best and that we do have your best interest in mind to take care of you guys. 778 01:10:43,080 --> 01:11:10,660 Before I take questions, I would like to acknowledge four guys that really worked their tails off during these events and that's Matt Clark and his three mechanics at Central Garage, they don't get a lot of glory, but they, they're there during the day shift, they're there all day and during the night shift, they typically have one person there. 779 01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:12,020 depending on the size of the storm. 780 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,840 Without them, unfortunately, during snow storms, 781 01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:19,120 what can happen will happen and we tear things up 782 01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,760 and they try to get that back, 783 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,440 that stuff back out there on the road 784 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:24,240 as quick as they can. 785 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,360 So, some unsung heroes there, the guys in the garage. 786 01:11:31,670 --> 01:11:37,010 I know a lot of times snow events, you know, 787 01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:38,910 kids like it because they get out of school 788 01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:41,990 and it's fun to watch. 789 01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:45,210 We don't get a lot of snow around here. 790 01:11:45,970 --> 01:11:50,130 So when we do have these events, people get excited. 791 01:11:51,190 --> 01:11:56,650 But one thing I can tell you, typically at least a week 792 01:11:57,370 --> 01:12:00,050 before people even start talking about this stuff, 793 01:12:01,730 --> 01:12:03,750 we've been watching the weather forecast, 794 01:12:04,330 --> 01:12:07,050 and we've already started preparing for that. 795 01:12:07,050 --> 01:12:22,850 I can't stress that enough, you know, the safety of the citizens and everyone out there on the roads when they can get out there, that's always at the top of our minds. 796 01:12:22,850 --> 01:12:26,470 And so these guys in the recruiters do a wonderful job. 797 01:12:27,010 --> 01:12:31,610 We can be more proud of the way they handle the snows we had last year, the one in February. 798 01:12:32,690 --> 01:12:38,050 We don't very many like that and they did a great job getting the streets ready. 799 01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:41,990 So with that, I can take any questions if you have any. 800 01:12:42,730 --> 01:12:43,850 Council, any questions? 801 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:46,730 It's a couple. 802 01:12:47,690 --> 01:12:53,030 Yes, sir, I concur the job your team did last year was exemplary. 803 01:12:54,510 --> 01:13:10,370 Question, though, on the preparedness side of things, the last couple of years we have had to Mr. Johnson's vernacular, a toolbox contract with a construction company that way we had backup equipment operators. 804 01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:20,230 I don't know if that's something necessary or that wouldn't be a bad, you know, ace and the whole kind of thing to have in place. 805 01:13:20,230 --> 01:13:24,510 I would be very supportive of having something done well ahead of time. 806 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:30,750 So they could be trained on our equipment beforehand in case we do need them. 807 01:13:30,890 --> 01:13:37,390 Or if you all feel our staffing is more than adequate, then I'll defer to your judgment. 808 01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:44,430 But if it's even in question, I'm not opposed to having that toolbox contract in place and 809 01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:48,670 their operators trained on our equipment so they're ready to go. 810 01:13:48,670 --> 01:13:51,290 That's a good question, thanks for the input. 811 01:13:52,290 --> 01:13:57,910 I know in the past a few years ago, and we were having a hard time with our staffing, we did do something similar to that. 812 01:13:58,510 --> 01:14:03,610 Right now as it stands, we're basically at full staff, just regular turnover. 813 01:14:04,430 --> 01:14:15,950 We have 25 operators right now, and when we run a shift, it's a 12 hour shift, and we have 13 trucks, 13 plows. 814 01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:21,870 We run 12 of those at a time, so we have enough staff to cover both shifts. 815 01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:27,050 And that doesn't include these guys when they, if they need to, they can jump on a plow. 816 01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:35,290 So we have 28 total, but if we ever got to the point where we, we thought we needed to bring in a contractor to help us out. 817 01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:41,610 We've been down that road before and definitely be a consideration, but for this season, I think we're looking good. 818 01:14:41,610 --> 01:14:51,410 Okay, I'm a preparedness guy, so I'd rather have them in place and not need them than need them and not have them or have to wait to get them spun up. 819 01:14:51,890 --> 01:14:52,530 Thank you, sir. 820 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:53,810 Thank you. 821 01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:54,910 Mr. Dieter. 822 01:14:55,330 --> 01:14:55,890 Thank you, man. 823 01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:58,330 Mine is really just echo what Mr. Comple said. 824 01:14:58,450 --> 01:14:59,230 I just want to compliment. 825 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,160 We all in your department because I don't know that I've ever seen roads cleared so fast so that pre-treatment of the bribe, I remember we presented this last year and I was like, this is cool stuff. Beach you seriously? But no, I thought you guys did awesome and so I have like all the confidence. I love this presentation. Yeah, they did it last year exceptionally well. And so I expect that you raised the standard. So, you know, say up there. But no, you guys did great job. So I just want you. I know I said that after the last storm we had. 826 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,460 But man, just pass along to your team, yes. 827 01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:32,880 Yeah, kicking that out. 828 01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:35,280 Scott and his guys, Scott makes a lot of decisions out there. 829 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,080 I'm always kind of pressing them, hey, when are we doing this? 830 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:39,900 When are we doing that? 831 01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:43,860 And between him and Cody, they make a lot of the decisions 832 01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:46,220 to the no one that's go time it. 833 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,460 They have a lot of experience doing it, 834 01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:48,760 and I trust them 100%. 835 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:49,900 Well, I'll thank them, thanks Scott. 836 01:15:50,060 --> 01:15:50,920 Cody, appreciate it. 837 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:51,940 Thank you, man. 838 01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:57,580 We have, we have routinely, I have, 839 01:15:57,580 --> 01:16:02,680 of routinely and I think some other council members up here have in the past couple of years. 840 01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:07,860 We occasionally receive a phone call from a resident wanting to know when we're going to plow their street. 841 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:17,380 So could you briefly speak as to why we don't plow residential streets in the winter time when we're having events like this? 842 01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:18,840 Yeah, I can speak on that a little bit. 843 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:26,400 So residential street plowing, that presents a logistical issue and 844 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:33,340 the safety issue for us, along with, we kind of talked about staffing, you know, we have 12 trucks, 845 01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:40,560 city this size, if we were to go to residential street plowing, we probably have to double 846 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,720 our fleet, and we don't even have enough operators to run that many trucks. 847 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,060 Most of us have lived, 848 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:54,540 well, I don't know about most of us, but I've lived here long enough to know that very rarely, 849 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:59,900 three days later is that snow is still around especially on the roads. Now you will get an event 850 01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:08,980 that's out of the ordinary. But as far as residential streets, I don't know if any of you have 851 01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:11,280 ever lived in an area where they do get a lot of snow. 852 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,740 Those residents understand the importance of 853 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,640 getting your car off the street. 854 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,980 I don't know that we could message that enough around here. We would 855 01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:31,320 be plowing in so many vehicles, I think you would probably get more calls if people can't 856 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,720 get out because we plow them in. 857 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,740 And then our streets are pretty narrow in the residential neighborhoods. 858 01:17:36,060 --> 01:17:44,160 So I know it's been discussed, but in general, I mean, last year, the February storm, most 859 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,580 roads were passable within a week, I would say. 860 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,820 But the main roads, our goal is to get the main roads passable so if you can get to those, 861 01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:55,260 So you can get where you need to go. 862 01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:02,500 The other phone call that I get often is you guys do such a fantastic job of plowing 863 01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:10,820 the main thoroughfares, the arteries, and the main roads that you block in my street. 864 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,180 There's so much snow piled up at the intersection of my street where I can get on, say, 20th street 865 01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:25,240 that I can't get my car through that snow bank to get out to the main road where it is clear and I can go somewhere. 866 01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:27,080 Speak to that for just a moment, please. 867 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,500 I'm glad you brought that up. 868 01:18:28,780 --> 01:18:37,780 So you may have noticed through the budget work sessions that we put some snow plows in there to put on the front of pickups, pick up trucks. 869 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:44,120 And when we're replacing these trucks, we're buying larger trucks than we have in the past set of a half time. 870 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,720 I mean, we're going to three quarter times, every three quarter, maybe boned up to one time. 871 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,780 Those trucks are designed to have snow plows on them. 872 01:18:51,340 --> 01:18:56,440 And the goal is to use those to take care of those issues when they arise. 873 01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:58,920 Now, we won't have that issue with every storm. 874 01:18:59,660 --> 01:19:03,040 But the ones that have significant snowfall, we know that's a problem. 875 01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:08,180 And our crews will be using those vehicles to try to alleviate that issue. 876 01:19:08,940 --> 01:19:13,000 I think the overall message that I hear you putting out today is 877 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:28,260 We know the snow was coming, we knew it, we've been watching it for a while, we've been paying attention, we've done a lot of work to prepare for it, and we're out there getting things taken care of, so if you are having issues, it's okay for you to make a phone call or 878 01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:34,920 share the text and everything, but we are working to get to you, and we're going to make sure that everybody can move around this community safely. 879 01:19:40,580 --> 01:19:42,820 Thank you very much. Great job. 880 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,420 Finalization of consent agenda. Council, anybody up here need to speak to the consent agenda? 881 01:19:53,420 --> 01:20:01,820 Is there anyone in the audience needing to speak to the consent agenda? I deem the consent agenda finalized. Reports and communications. 882 01:20:01,820 --> 01:20:04,500 News from the public information office. 883 01:20:10,620 --> 01:20:11,580 Even to Mr. Douglas. 884 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,080 I mean, this is going to be tough for me because I did not print these slides. 885 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,960 We're going to have to kind of look over my shoulder here so let me get a little awkward. 886 01:20:19,700 --> 01:20:25,200 First, we've got a charter review commission meeting coming up October 22nd at four o'clock 887 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,960 here in the City Council chambers of City Hall. 888 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,020 The public is invited to come to this event in order to. 889 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,440 Oh, thank you. That is a little bit easier to read. 890 01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:47,580 So the folks welcome to come and give some input on the proposed changes to the city 891 01:20:47,580 --> 01:20:53,240 charter. Some of those topics are going to be council rate pay, the nominating petition 892 01:20:53,240 --> 01:21:00,240 signature requirements, renaming the emergency ordinance potentially to expedited ordinance. 893 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:06,360 Public Works Director, a licensure requirement, and then publication requirements. 894 01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:10,900 And then the next steps are going to be that the charter review commission will gather all that feedback. 895 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,860 Finally, I have some recommendations and then bring them back to you, the council. 896 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,380 We're going to Evert Park, groundbreaking coming up, Tuesday, October 22nd at 1 p.m. 897 01:21:20,620 --> 01:21:24,180 At Evert Park, we're exciting to finally get this project underway. 898 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:30,000 So we're going to be having some year round amenities coming available. 899 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,020 in that historic neighborhood park. 900 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:37,820 The new splash park has been planned for summer with an ice ribbon that will be active in the winter. 901 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:43,120 An amphitheater, a new playground, covered basketball courts, historical markers. 902 01:21:43,660 --> 01:21:48,240 There's been a lot of thoughtful work gone into planning all of this and 903 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:55,620 we're really excited to get started on that project and the park department plans to build a cuter 904 01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:57,760 We've been on that in the summer time, is that right Paul? 905 01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:05,070 Yeah, don't forget to get your tickets for the State of the Community event. 906 01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,290 That's going to be on January 14th at the Cornell Complex. 907 01:22:09,490 --> 01:22:14,470 You can scan that QR code, just point your camera at it, and click the link. 908 01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:19,350 And it'll take you to sign up through our park registration system. 909 01:22:19,870 --> 01:22:21,790 And then you can buy as many tickets as you'd like. 910 01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:24,970 There's $25 per person. 911 01:22:25,710 --> 01:22:35,510 And there's going to be, there's a breakfast involved there and you'll get a little bit of swag, little teas are pouring on, little j-con, lapel pin, everybody who attends will get one of those. 912 01:22:38,750 --> 01:22:43,950 And dresses business casual, but seating is limited to only 250 people. 913 01:22:44,190 --> 01:22:49,670 So tickets are available, first come first served, when we sell out of tickets, we sell out of tickets and there's no refunds. 914 01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:51,970 So for you open, give your tickets today. 915 01:22:52,850 --> 01:23:21,050 And be sure that you subscribe to our monthly email newsletter, the citizen, there's a little video with a message from the mayor at the top of that every month that kind of goes into in depth topic and then there's information throughout that newsletter about project updates and events that are coming up in our community and all kinds of things, spotlights on our staff like our like our snow cloud drivers, there's spotlights there to kind of shine a light on the good work being done by our public servants across the organization. 916 01:23:22,050 --> 01:23:26,290 You can follow us on social media, we've got lots of Facebook pages, and that's it. 917 01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:27,350 Any questions for me? 918 01:23:28,250 --> 01:23:31,650 Any questions for Drew Douglas, Councilor? 919 01:23:33,070 --> 01:23:33,630 Drew, I see none. 920 01:23:33,810 --> 01:23:34,130 Thank you. 921 01:23:34,690 --> 01:23:34,970 Thank you. 922 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,920 Citizens, request and petitions. 923 01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:40,140 Amanda Bearden. 924 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:40,940 Evening 925 01:23:58,630 --> 01:24:02,710 Amanda, I will need you to speak your name into the microphone for the record, 926 01:24:02,710 --> 01:24:04,010 and you will have five minutes. 927 01:24:04,490 --> 01:24:07,190 You can pull that microphone down a little bit if you need to. 928 01:24:07,630 --> 01:24:09,290 You saying I'm short, Dr.? 929 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:11,570 I didn't say that. 930 01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:15,850 My name is Amanda Bearden. 931 01:24:16,190 --> 01:24:21,070 I am a member of the next step, Joplin Board, and also a Board of Access Healthcare, but 932 01:24:21,070 --> 01:24:26,730 I am here representing one of the, as an advocate for the homeless community. 933 01:24:27,190 --> 01:24:30,410 So I'm going to get started so I can finish up and then my friend Tiffany is going to end 934 01:24:30,410 --> 01:24:31,550 up our speech here today. 935 01:24:32,110 --> 01:24:36,830 So first I'd like to start with asking that the council, please remember that recently a 936 01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:42,190 leader of this city was quoted in the Joplin Globe as saying people who don't want to live 937 01:24:42,190 --> 01:24:44,490 on the street can get housing if they want. 938 01:24:45,050 --> 01:24:50,170 That is demonstrably incorrect, and over the next several meetings our group of advocates 939 01:24:50,170 --> 01:24:52,910 will share information with you to explain this. 940 01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:59,030 I'm here today to discuss evidence-based approaches to help those members of our community experiencing 941 01:24:59,030 --> 01:25:04,510 homelessness and the information I'm sharing comes from federal guidance, peer-reviewed research, 942 01:25:04,510 --> 01:25:07,090 and proven programs nationwide. 943 01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:12,570 Most of the information I'm going to share with you will be from the National Alliance and 944 01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:17,090 homelessness, the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness, and 945 01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:20,170 a thesis case analysis from the Ohio State University. 946 01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:26,190 Housing first, the foundation of success, housing first is the approach that prioritizes 947 01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:31,290 providing semi-permanent to permanent housing to people experiencing homelessness. 948 01:25:31,290 --> 01:25:41,850 Thus, ending their homelessness and serving as a platform from which they can pursue personal goals and improve their quality of life as stated in the national alliance in homelessness. 949 01:25:42,490 --> 01:26:00,270 A few key points, this approach is guided by research that people need basic necessities like food and a place to live before attending to anything else that's less critical, like getting a job, learning how to budget and attending substance use issues. 950 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,810 Services have been found to be more effective when a person chooses to engage. 951 01:26:05,330 --> 01:26:12,030 When housing is offered with voluntary services, up to nine out of ten people will remain 952 01:26:12,030 --> 01:26:14,870 stably housed a year later. 953 01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:22,030 And that is directly from the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness published just in 2024. 954 01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:28,390 One study published in the National Alliance in Homelessness found an average cost savings 955 01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:37,570 of on the emergency services of $31,545 per person housed in the course of two years. 956 01:26:38,090 --> 01:26:46,730 Meaning because they had housing, their emergency service location saved $31,545 957 01:26:46,730 --> 01:26:51,430 in the cost of providing those emergency services because they had stable housing. 958 01:26:51,430 --> 01:27:03,090 Another study showed that housing first approach can cost up to $23,000 less per consumer per year than a shelter program. 959 01:27:03,690 --> 01:27:11,510 So first we want to approach the idea of an interim solution while the job link community establishes better resources. 960 01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:16,850 That interim solution is very well reflected in many cities. 961 01:27:17,090 --> 01:27:22,790 It's a permitted village or a transitional encampment. 962 01:27:23,470 --> 01:27:29,730 So while we build permanent housing solutions, we need to main interim options. 963 01:27:30,330 --> 01:27:37,670 Clearing an encampment without offering housing or support does not solve homelessness in the short or long term. 964 01:27:37,670 --> 01:27:43,850 Instead, it simply moves people experiencing homelessness from block to block or street to jail. 965 01:27:44,610 --> 01:28:02,350 Rather than viewing tent cities as a threat to public safety, communities should view self-organization by those experiencing homelessness as an opportunity to provide services and to address the root cause of the homelessness and guarantee the human rights of all of those residents. 966 01:28:03,050 --> 01:28:09,490 There are several examples that are referenced in the documentation I provided her of successful 967 01:28:10,150 --> 01:28:18,350 tinted cities or permitted villages in Seattle and in Finland as well. 968 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:20,850 I'm going to end my time today. 969 01:28:21,070 --> 01:28:23,150 We have several opportunities to speak to you. 970 01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:28,570 You're going to see me a whole lot between now and March or by the time we find successful 971 01:28:28,570 --> 01:28:30,370 and humane solutions. 972 01:28:30,370 --> 01:28:40,150 But as I leave you, I'm going to let Tiffany, who's a member of our community currently struggling with permanent stable housing to read a poem to you. 973 01:28:42,450 --> 01:28:58,170 Amanda, Amanda, excuse me guys, when you signed up to request to speak to us, you were given a set of rules and regulations regarding addressing the City Council and sharing your time with other citizens is not allowed. 974 01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:03,250 Okay, then I will if I can collect back those like last ten seconds and I'll read her poem for us 975 01:29:03,250 --> 01:29:05,970 Who protects us from the protectors? 976 01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:12,910 They say serve and protect but out here all I see ever see are the lights red blue 977 01:29:12,910 --> 01:29:16,650 Red blue like they're warning the world that I exist 978 01:29:16,650 --> 01:29:22,830 They make me wake me up with flashlights in my eyes boots kicking at my blanket 979 01:29:23,410 --> 01:29:26,890 Voices barking move along you can't sleep here 980 01:29:26,890 --> 01:29:33,730 I want to ask, then where can I sleep officer? Where do you go when every inch of 981 01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:39,490 ground is already owned by someone richer than hope? They call it transgress 982 01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:45,230 passing as if I broke into heaven. They call it loitering as if I could afford to 983 01:29:45,230 --> 01:29:51,870 go anywhere else. They call my blanking blanket camping contraband. My tent 984 01:29:51,870 --> 01:29:56,230 light illegal, my bike trailer suspicious, my bags too many. 985 01:29:56,890 --> 01:29:59,890 When the sun comes up, the bulldozers come too. 986 01:30:00,590 --> 01:30:19,610 Steal, jaws, grinding through everything I've built. My ten. I'm sure it's your time. Of course, I did. Thank you. Mr. Coppel. I move that we give her an extra minute to finish her speech. Second. Motion's been made and properly seconded to give a man to time. Thank you very much, Mr. Coppel. Vote. 987 01:30:21,740 --> 01:30:22,280 Please vote. 988 01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:37,790 Council, please vote. Motion passes, eight in favor. One opposed. Mrs. Bearden, you have exactly 60 more seconds. 989 01:30:37,790 --> 01:30:38,850 Thank you sir. 990 01:30:42,180 --> 01:30:50,820 When the sun comes up the bulldozers come to steal jaws grinding through everything I built my tent my clothes my last piece of piece they'd burn it all flames 991 01:30:50,820 --> 01:31:01,720 licking at the edge of my memories like they're cleansing the city of the sight of me. I stand there watching smoke rise from my life and I think they call it clean up but all I see is a 992 01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:07,000 They say it's for public safety, but for who's public, for who's safety. 993 01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:13,020 Not mine, not the woman clutching her dog like it's the last piece of family she's got. 994 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:19,580 Not the man coughing up blood in the shadows of law that only loves you if you can pay rent. 995 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,960 They say justice wears a badge. 996 01:31:22,420 --> 01:31:23,960 I've seen it wear a smirk. 997 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:29,040 I've seen it hand out tickets for the crime of simply surviving. 998 01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:33,560 So tell me, who protects us from the ones that are supposed to protect us? 999 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,160 Who do we call when the sirens are the ones chasing us away? 1000 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,200 We will see you next month. 1001 01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:41,740 Thank you, Mayor. 1002 01:31:43,690 --> 01:31:44,410 I have a question. 1003 01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:45,270 Mr. Jackson? 1004 01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:45,770 Yes. 1005 01:31:46,290 --> 01:31:47,810 Mr. Speaker, I had a question. 1006 01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:56,590 During some of this outrage with the situation that happened, there was a post that was made trying to 1007 01:31:56,590 --> 01:31:58,050 to dox the job and police officer. 1008 01:31:58,330 --> 01:32:00,690 Is your organization condone that sort of behavior? 1009 01:32:01,190 --> 01:32:03,450 I'm not here to speak about the citation. 1010 01:32:03,850 --> 01:32:05,310 We spoke to the police chief about that. 1011 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:07,510 I'm here to speak about changes in the ordinance 1012 01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:08,010 and the rules. 1013 01:32:08,270 --> 01:32:09,890 Does your organization support the doxing 1014 01:32:09,890 --> 01:32:10,430 and police officers? 1015 01:32:10,810 --> 01:32:12,770 I told you I'm not here representing an organization. 1016 01:32:12,770 --> 01:32:14,790 I'm here as an advocate for homelessness 1017 01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:18,630 and posting public information is not considered doxing. 1018 01:32:19,390 --> 01:32:21,390 Next time I come, I can look up that definition 1019 01:32:21,390 --> 01:32:22,230 for you and bring it. 1020 01:32:22,650 --> 01:32:24,250 Providing someone's contact information, 1021 01:32:24,250 --> 01:32:28,310 I believe would be trying to get people to reach out to them and possibly harass them. 1022 01:32:28,430 --> 01:32:29,270 I think it's very unbecoming. 1023 01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:34,170 I think you're assuming the intent and also again, I didn't do that and I'm here as an 1024 01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:36,610 advocate for homeless and I'm here to talk about the ordinance. 1025 01:32:36,810 --> 01:32:40,270 Yes, but you gave it a nice little love, Carimoji, so you did support it. 1026 01:32:40,630 --> 01:32:41,390 I gave it a what? 1027 01:32:41,550 --> 01:32:42,630 A little Carimoji to love it. 1028 01:32:42,970 --> 01:32:46,070 If we would like to have a conversation about what people have done on Facebook, 1029 01:32:46,130 --> 01:32:48,810 I would like to share what you've done and said to me on Facebook. 1030 01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:49,930 So we could do that. 1031 01:32:52,030 --> 01:32:56,750 I'm going to call for decorum in the chambers at this time. 1032 01:32:57,710 --> 01:33:13,050 We are simply letting the process play out where citizens have requested to address council, and we're going to hear them out because they've done the proper thing, they've addressed the clerk, they filled out the required documents to address council. 1033 01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:19,070 We're going to allow that to happen, but while we do, we are going to maintain decorum. 1034 01:33:19,070 --> 01:33:27,710 We are going to speak civilly, we are not going to raise our voice, and we're going to hear each other out, and we're not going to try to talk over each other. 1035 01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:30,710 Mr. Jackson, I'll give you a moment to finish making your point. 1036 01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:38,850 Yes, sir. Part of what I'm concerned about is there's a lot of remarks from me about this that unless you work with this community, you don't have a right to have a voice in what's going on. 1037 01:33:38,850 --> 01:33:44,810 You don't have the right to endorse these ordinances or changes for them, whatever it may be. 1038 01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:50,090 But yet I have some people in my zone, just blocks from my house, who are dealing with a homeless situation next to them, 1039 01:33:50,150 --> 01:33:55,690 where squatters have entered a home and has created a safety situation right next to them. 1040 01:33:56,010 --> 01:34:00,550 I think they have a right to voice their concerns about things that happen with the homeless community. 1041 01:34:01,150 --> 01:34:04,670 They've had raw sewage dump down the storm drains outside their house. 1042 01:34:04,670 --> 01:34:09,070 They've had bug-infested mattresses thrown in their evac yards. 1043 01:34:09,290 --> 01:34:13,490 These people have a right to have a voice about what's going on with the homeless situation in the community. 1044 01:34:13,970 --> 01:34:18,710 I have business owners contacting me about they have a line item on their quick books for 1045 01:34:18,710 --> 01:34:23,070 someone to go out and pick up drug needles, clean up human fecal matter, pick up broken prophylactics, 1046 01:34:23,490 --> 01:34:25,850 many disgusting biological hazard things. 1047 01:34:26,570 --> 01:34:29,250 They have a right to have a voice in this conversation, and 1048 01:34:29,250 --> 01:34:35,830 And they have some very legitimate concerns about safety, and we have to consider those things. 1049 01:34:35,990 --> 01:34:38,010 And that is the reason we have these ordinances. 1050 01:34:38,350 --> 01:34:39,650 It's to provide safety. 1051 01:34:39,770 --> 01:34:45,310 It is to provide a framework for our community that keeps order, that keeps structure. 1052 01:34:45,710 --> 01:34:46,650 It's not to be mean. 1053 01:34:47,530 --> 01:34:51,050 It's to make sure that things are safe. 1054 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:53,390 It's not sanitary to let people camp in parks. 1055 01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:58,490 there's not the amenities there for them to shower and use restrooms in the evenings. 1056 01:34:59,430 --> 01:35:04,670 It's a sanitary issue. If I go camping at, say, stocked in lake, those campsites have rules 1057 01:35:04,670 --> 01:35:09,190 and regulations. We don't have that set up for our parks. That's not what they're made for. They're 1058 01:35:09,190 --> 01:35:14,970 made for recreation. It's not to be mean that we're having these things, but it's to have structure 1059 01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:20,430 order and safety of the community, and have a community that people will go out and participate 1060 01:35:20,430 --> 01:35:23,970 in our parks. We'll go out downtown Japlen and feel safe. We'll go out and not have to 1061 01:35:23,970 --> 01:35:29,030 worry about what they may step in. It's not to be me. And I want people to understand 1062 01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:34,190 that. And people come to us saying, what will you do about these challenges and these problems? 1063 01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:38,750 What else can we do? We cannot afford to just, you know, make free housing for people. 1064 01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:44,770 That's just not an option. So that's why these ordinances exist. It's not to pick on somebody. 1065 01:35:45,530 --> 01:35:48,530 And I've seen I've been on a ride along with the police department. They do the pedestrian 1066 01:35:48,530 --> 01:35:51,950 safety stops, you'd be surprised some of the people who are stopped. 1067 01:35:52,210 --> 01:35:55,770 And usually it's someone who's walking down the middle of the street and sometimes there's a sidewalk right next to them. 1068 01:35:56,110 --> 01:35:57,950 And the officers will tell them, hey, use the sidewalk. 1069 01:35:58,310 --> 01:36:01,790 But if there is no sidewalk, they tell them, look, make sure you're walking against the flow of traffic. 1070 01:36:02,190 --> 01:36:05,170 We've had many fatalities in this community from people doing that. 1071 01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:08,910 We've had many structure fires from people breaking into abandoned houses. 1072 01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:10,750 That's why these things are in place. 1073 01:36:10,970 --> 01:36:14,890 And I'm concerned for citizens on all levels of this community and 1074 01:36:14,890 --> 01:36:18,210 I'm not going to tell people just because you have not volunteered with some 1075 01:36:18,210 --> 01:36:19,890 one organization, you don't have a voice in the matter. 1076 01:36:20,830 --> 01:36:21,490 Thank you. 1077 01:36:22,810 --> 01:36:25,930 Is there an opportunity to respond, or am I required to sit down? 1078 01:36:26,410 --> 01:36:28,750 I'll give you a brief opportunity, Mrs. Bearden. 1079 01:36:29,090 --> 01:36:35,850 So I would appreciate if you would have listened to some of the things I said in the beginning, because we're not asking you to build a bunch of random houses. 1080 01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:40,930 And also I'm not going to address the citations and the enforcement. 1081 01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:46,510 That was for the law enforcement that we visited with yesterday and had an extremely amazing conversation with Chief Pearson. 1082 01:36:46,510 --> 01:36:52,030 What I am going to say is those of us that have done the research, if you'd like to see 1083 01:36:52,030 --> 01:36:54,630 any of it, you can see the references on the document I handed you. 1084 01:36:54,890 --> 01:36:57,770 There are other options besides you putting up a bunch of housing. 1085 01:36:58,950 --> 01:37:04,970 What I am going to say is that the way that this ordinance is worded is challenging for any 1086 01:37:04,970 --> 01:37:09,150 individual without stable housing to be successful in not violating it. 1087 01:37:09,810 --> 01:37:15,210 What I am going to say is we have ideas, but I have five minutes to prepare it for it 1088 01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:21,830 presented to you. So, you know what? Next week, next month, next time, there's going to be some more presentations, there's going to be some more presentation. 1089 01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:34,230 I do not believe that someone that has not done the work and just wants to say, oh, I'm upset because I see dirty things that they get to just say, throw them out with the garbage. 1090 01:37:34,630 --> 01:37:42,110 What they should be saying is, what can we do and what have other cities and countries done to end homelessness? 1091 01:37:42,110 --> 01:37:46,190 And that's what I have here for you, and that's what I prepared for you on the document. 1092 01:37:46,490 --> 01:37:53,070 So if you really do want to learn about best practice and some ways that we can help eliminate 1093 01:37:53,530 --> 01:37:58,490 the challenges that are being experienced by the city, by those advocating for those 1094 01:37:58,490 --> 01:38:04,990 homeless, and for those experiencing homelessness, please take the time to do some real research 1095 01:38:04,990 --> 01:38:07,250 and look at the information we're providing you. 1096 01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:10,450 Yes, sir, I did bring you a bleeding heart story. 1097 01:38:10,450 --> 01:38:20,090 But I also brought you data and you know what in three weeks, four weeks when I come back, I'm gonna bring you some more and again, and again, I am signed up through Mars. 1098 01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:21,310 Thank you, Mrs. Spiridon. 1099 01:38:21,450 --> 01:38:21,790 Thank you. 1100 01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:22,830 Please take your seat. 1101 01:38:27,070 --> 01:38:27,690 Thank you, Mayor. 1102 01:38:28,150 --> 01:38:33,690 I would just like to say that Portland, Oregon has seen a 29% increase in homelessness since last year, so there's your data. 1103 01:38:34,910 --> 01:38:36,110 Next presenter, please. 1104 01:38:36,710 --> 01:38:37,430 Chris Stockton. 1105 01:38:42,210 --> 01:38:45,590 Chris Stockton, you've been called to approach the podium. Are you in the chambers? 1106 01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:49,950 Members, Chris Stockton, next presenter, please. 1107 01:38:50,270 --> 01:38:53,750 Mary Price has withdrawn her request to speak this evening. 1108 01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:55,110 Next presenter, please. 1109 01:38:55,410 --> 01:38:56,070 Frank Thompson. 1110 01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:56,910 Mr. 1111 01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:09,330 Thompson, you state your name for the record you'll have five minutes. 1112 01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:22,090 Frank Thompson, 1113 01:39:25,180 --> 01:39:28,480 I'm here tonight, not with rumor or speculation, but with facts. 1114 01:39:29,540 --> 01:39:34,360 Facts taken directly from the Missouri State Auders official report on the city of Joplin. 1115 01:39:35,060 --> 01:39:40,240 And while some in leadership including our city manager and our unelected mayor have tried 1116 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,300 to downplay this audit as not that bad, the truth tells a very different story. 1117 01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:50,300 Recently, the city manager made a comment suggesting that the citizens who pushed for 1118 01:39:50,300 --> 01:39:53,760 this audit have cost the city a quarter of a million dollars. 1119 01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:56,460 I want to address this directly. 1120 01:39:56,740 --> 01:40:02,900 Yes, I am one of the several citizens who pushed for this audit and I stand behind that without 1121 01:40:02,900 --> 01:40:09,500 wavering because accountability is never a waste of money. Our city will spend that much and 1122 01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:16,460 more on the next study. It commissions to justify a decision it already plans to make. 1123 01:40:17,260 --> 01:40:22,520 The difference is this audit exposed the truth and that's worth every penny that we spent. 1124 01:40:23,860 --> 01:40:29,440 The state auditor rated Joplin's performance fair. That's not a passing grade. 1125 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:35,920 It means serious weakness, poor oversight, and repeated failures in transparency and accountability. 1126 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,220 Let's start with transparency. 1127 01:40:39,860 --> 01:40:46,140 The audit revealed that 80% of the city ordinances in 2023 were pushed through as emergency ordinances. 1128 01:40:47,180 --> 01:40:55,640 When an ordinance is declared emergency ordinance, it bypasses the normal waiting period and limits public comment. 1129 01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:01,620 that the auditor stated clearly that this practice reduces transparency and prevents 1130 01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:03,100 citizens from being heard. 1131 01:41:04,460 --> 01:41:11,060 The city's response was they always allow public comment, but the auditor corrected them. 1132 01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:13,760 The charter does not require it. 1133 01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:20,860 That means they can ignore public input whenever it suits them and they have to meet before. 1134 01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:29,160 And after citizens started paying attention, those so-called emergency suddenly dropped from 80% to 40%. 1135 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,180 That's not improvement. That's proof the process was being abused. 1136 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:41,280 Now, instead of fixing the problem, city leadership wants to change the charter to make the abuse look legitimate. 1137 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:50,300 They want to swap the words emergency for expedited, but expedited is already in the charter and it means the exact same thing. 1138 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:56,400 It's a word game. It's it's cosmetic changement to make it appear different 1139 01:41:57,020 --> 01:42:02,600 when it's really not. If anything, it exposes just how far they will go to 1140 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:03,960 manipulate the public record. 1141 01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:12,030 The audit also uncovered $12.7 million in 1142 01:42:12,030 --> 01:42:17,650 expenditures that were never shown in the approved budget. Those funds were 1143 01:42:17,650 --> 01:42:19,790 were quietly added after the budget passed. 1144 01:42:20,290 --> 01:42:24,730 The city's explanation was the amounts weren't known yet. 1145 01:42:25,110 --> 01:42:33,750 But the auditor called that misleading because the state law requires a complete financial plan before the year begins. 1146 01:42:34,190 --> 01:42:38,470 Citizens deserve to know where every dollar is going before it's spent. 1147 01:42:41,420 --> 01:42:45,180 And that's what, that wasn't the only concern. 1148 01:42:45,180 --> 01:42:51,740 The auditor found that the individuals had, that certain individuals had unrestricted access to the city's financial system. 1149 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,640 Credit card payments weren't fully reconciled. 1150 01:42:54,940 --> 01:43:04,200 There were $2.7 million in unpaid accounts, and the city could not provide documentation to prove that reconciliations or oversight even occurred. 1151 01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,120 Those aren't minor oversights. 1152 01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,460 Those are major control failures. 1153 01:43:09,460 --> 01:43:15,240 measures. Instead of correcting those failures, our leadership seems to be more focused on 1154 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:20,480 changing the rules that expose them. They are rewriting the charter, not to improve it, 1155 01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:26,360 but to shield their actions. And let's be honest, the citizens of Javelin have been very 1156 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:32,820 clear about what change we do want. If anything in this charter needs to be changed, it's that 1157 01:43:32,820 --> 01:43:38,160 the people should elect a mayor. The citizens have said it repeatedly. We want a mayor chosen 1158 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:45,260 by the voters. Someone accountable to the public whose vote only breaks a tie or acts in a 1159 01:43:45,260 --> 01:43:52,000 supermajority situation. That's change we've asked for but that's not what the council is doing. 1160 01:43:53,300 --> 01:43:59,260 Changing the charter to make wrongs appear right is not leadership, it's manipulation and in my opinion 1161 01:43:59,260 --> 01:44:06,920 it's disgusting. This audit paints a clear picture, a city operating on loopholes instead of guardrails, 1162 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:30,380 No independent internal audit since 2022, unverified vehicle stipends, dangerous buildings ignored until the ordinance was written to excuse it, tax money directed to outside boards with little to no review, the auditors didn't have to use the word corruption, the facts speech for themselves, and I continue. 1163 01:44:30,380 --> 01:44:31,180 Here's 1164 01:44:39,790 --> 01:44:40,890 your time's up, Mr. Thompson. 1165 01:44:42,490 --> 01:44:43,790 That goes to prove more. 1166 01:44:48,210 --> 01:44:49,330 Next presenter, please. 1167 01:44:49,870 --> 01:44:53,690 Mr. Shackles has requested to speak during new business. 1168 01:44:59,110 --> 01:44:59,890 Public hearing. 1169 01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:14,640 We have none. Consent, agenda. Mayor, Mr. Dittar. I move for the approval of the consent agenda is finalized, motion's been made and properly seconded to approve the consent agenda is finalized. Please vote. 1170 01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:32,400 Motion carries nine in favor. Resolutions. We have none. Ordinance is emergency. Council Bill number 2025-455. In ordinance emitting chapter 18, animals of the Joplin City Code by emitting certain fees found in section 18, 1171 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,280 144 and containing an emergency clause. 1172 01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:37,640 Good evening, sir. 1173 01:45:38,180 --> 01:45:38,800 Good evening. 1174 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:46,720 Mayor, if I may, may I present on 455 and 456 at the same time? 1175 01:45:47,060 --> 01:45:47,720 Please proceed. 1176 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:48,620 Thank you. 1177 01:45:49,580 --> 01:45:55,140 So I bring tonight the yearly contract renewal for 1178 01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:59,780 the update and for sheltering services. 1179 01:45:59,780 --> 01:46:12,780 So, this is on emergency agenda tonight, it coincides with the fiscal year and the approval of the fiscal year budget. 1180 01:46:12,980 --> 01:46:15,820 So, this is tied with that. 1181 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:25,320 So, we have a price increase this year, the price increase is based on the consumer price index, it's at 3.1%. 1182 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:35,040 That's the standard index that we use from year to year, last year, sheltering. 1183 01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:49,500 We took in, 2024, 2,645 animals were taken to the shelter and anything else on here 1184 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:50,120 I need to cover. 1185 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,260 Guess what that is? 1186 01:46:51,260 --> 01:46:52,320 I'm taking a question. 1187 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,360 Council, Mrs. Carlin. 1188 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:09,840 Once again, if we re-up our contract every year on November 1st and that corresponds 1189 01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:17,840 with the budget for next year, why aren't we doing this in a timely manner so that it's 1190 01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:18,900 not an emergency? 1191 01:47:19,480 --> 01:47:26,240 Did we not know that there was an increase or I don't understand why we don't do it 1192 01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:31,820 So in advance, so it doesn't have to be an emergency issue. 1193 01:47:33,620 --> 01:47:41,500 So my understanding of that is to ensure that the line item within the budget, 1194 01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:46,040 that there is a budget line item that coincides with us that matches the amount. 1195 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,560 That's my understanding. 1196 01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:04,600 I think to Ms. Carlin's point is we couldn't have done that two weeks ago and then finished it tonight. 1197 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,480 We can look into that in the future. 1198 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:17,540 I don't know the answer to that, to be honest with you as far as how it all fits in with the budgeting process. 1199 01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:25,740 But, absolutely, we can look into it and I'm not trying to be overly obtuse here, but excuse me, I'm sorry. 1200 01:48:25,740 --> 01:48:32,920 Mr. City Manager, I'm not trying to be overly obtuse here, but if our department heads don't know who does. 1201 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:39,820 Mr. Coppola, I remember correctly we did the schedule of fees presentation during our budget work sessions. 1202 01:48:39,820 --> 01:48:47,320 And the next regularly available council meeting to get that approved would have been that October 4th. 1203 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:53,780 I don't think there was turnaround time that allowed us to get all that stuff packaged up and ready for tonight. 1204 01:48:53,780 --> 01:48:57,180 That's why the budget adoption stuff is coming to you tonight. 1205 01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:09,640 For budget approval, purposes, we could maybe move back our meeting dates even further. 1206 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,240 We're already starting in August, perhaps July, so that we could. 1207 01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:23,180 I don't so much have an issue with the overall budget because we do public hearings going over the budget. 1208 01:49:23,180 --> 01:49:30,140 So that provides plenty of opportunity for people to attend and question items in the budget. 1209 01:49:30,140 --> 01:49:44,820 But when we come to the ordinance of this nature, and especially the next one where we are renewing the contract with the Humane Society, I don't understand why that couldn't be done two weeks ago. 1210 01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:49,700 And then we finish it up this week and it's still be ready to go by November 1st. 1211 01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:55,400 I hear you Ryan and I will discuss and I make an improvement there. 1212 01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:56,080 Fantastic. 1213 01:49:56,300 --> 01:49:56,600 Thank you, sir. 1214 01:49:57,500 --> 01:49:58,360 Anyone else? 1215 01:50:00,610 --> 01:50:01,730 Thank you, Mr. Talking. 1216 01:50:02,410 --> 01:50:02,670 Thank you. 1217 01:50:02,990 --> 01:50:09,230 Council, we've heard testing on the council bill 2025-455 Chair will entertain a motion. 1218 01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:09,930 Mayor. 1219 01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:11,650 Mr. Lawson. 1220 01:50:11,790 --> 01:50:17,430 I move the council bill number 25-455 be passed on emergency basis. 1221 01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:25,450 The motion has been made and probably segmented further approval of Council Bill 2025-455 on emergency basis, please vote. 1222 01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,200 That motion passes nine in favor. 1223 01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:31,560 Next item, please. 1224 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:47,460 Council Bill number 2025-456, an ordinance of proving an agreement by and between the Joplin Humane Society Inc., and the City of Joplin, Missouri, providing for the animal sheltering services for the City Animal Control Program, authorizing the City Manager to execute, set agreement by and on behalf of the City of Joplin, Missouri, and containing an emergency clause. 1225 01:50:47,460 --> 01:50:52,720 Council, we've heard testimony on this council bill already, is there any discussion? 1226 01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:55,400 Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1227 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:56,900 I'm sorry, excuse me. 1228 01:50:57,380 --> 01:50:57,920 Mrs. Carlin? 1229 01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:03,380 Well, once again, I'm just going to say that if we know that every single year we're going 1230 01:51:03,380 --> 01:51:10,960 to renew our contract with the Humane Society on November 1st, then it should, the very 1231 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:16,420 thing we've been criticized for is emergency ordinances and then the very next meeting, 1232 01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:22,800 When we know a year in advance that we're going to renew a contract, we're doing an emergency ordinance. 1233 01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:24,220 That's my point. 1234 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:34,820 I would agree with you, Mrs. Carlin, but I would also offer up this for just for anybody that may be listening and maybe see the other side of the coin. 1235 01:51:35,740 --> 01:51:40,780 This is our last official city council meeting in this fiscal year. 1236 01:51:40,780 --> 01:51:46,540 The next time that we meet is going to be the 2026 fiscal year. 1237 01:51:46,700 --> 01:51:53,480 November 1st is a few days out, 11 days out, 12, maybe 11 now it's 8 o'clock at night. 1238 01:51:54,180 --> 01:52:00,240 So this is the last opportunity that we're going to have to get things on the books for 1239 01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:01,320 the next year. 1240 01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:10,000 I would also add that in the spirit of dialing back the emergency ordinances which I get 1241 01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:15,460 But completely, I do believe that we've done a good job of dialing those back from where 1242 01:52:15,460 --> 01:52:17,220 they used to be all the time. 1243 01:52:18,580 --> 01:52:24,400 But in concerning these particular ordinances that are on here tonight, as emergency ordinances, 1244 01:52:24,980 --> 01:52:30,240 I would just like to add that there is nothing nefarious about renewing our contract with 1245 01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:31,480 the job on the main society. 1246 01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:39,980 And there's nothing nefarious about increasing the fees for some of our pet related things 1247 01:52:39,980 --> 01:52:46,180 that we've got going on in our community, but it is the last meeting of the Chaplain City Council in this fiscal year. 1248 01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:51,800 So, with all that being said, I'm sure I was out of line somewhere. 1249 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:57,300 The Chair will entertain a motion on Council Bill 2025-456. 1250 01:52:57,620 --> 01:52:58,160 Mr. Mayor. 1251 01:52:59,200 --> 01:52:59,880 Mr. Detar. 1252 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:05,260 I move to the approval of Council Bill 2025-456 on emergency basis. 1253 01:53:05,620 --> 01:53:05,840 Second. 1254 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:12,860 Motion has been made and probably seconded for the approval of Council Bill 2025-456 on the emergency basis, please vote. 1255 01:53:13,860 --> 01:53:19,340 Motion carries nine in favor with none absent or with no opposed. 1256 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:20,860 I'm okay, I really am. 1257 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,040 It might be time for a break. 1258 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,440 I think we'll take one after emergency ordinances are completed. 1259 01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:27,360 Next item, please, Madam Clerk. 1260 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:40,800 Council Bill number 2025-537, in ordinance emitting the annual budget of the City of Joplin for the fiscal year 2024-2025, as adopted by ordinance 2024-151 on October 21st, 2024 to adjust appropriations and containing an emergency clause. 1261 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,040 Good evening, Mrs. Haas. 1262 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:44,240 Good evening, Mayor Council. 1263 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:52,100 This council bill omens the adopted 2025 budget of the City of Joplin. 1264 01:53:52,740 --> 01:53:58,640 In compliance with charter regulations and accounting principles, the proposed adjustment is required to ensure that departments 1265 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,160 Expenditures do not exceed approved budget appropriations. 1266 01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:09,330 There is a list that you all have of the items that are being amended. 1267 01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:14,730 But as a summary, we're emitting the City Council budget for the estimated cost of the state audit. 1268 01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:21,310 We're emitting various departments for utilities such as electric charges, water charges, waste water, and sanitation. 1269 01:54:22,230 --> 01:54:26,950 Emitting various departments for fuel costs, central garage repairs, and other vehicle repairs. 1270 01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:30,990 Minning various departments for repairs and contracts. 1271 01:54:31,690 --> 01:54:33,230 Minning various payroll accounts. 1272 01:54:33,790 --> 01:54:38,510 Minning the auctioneer fee due to the size of the auction this year. 1273 01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:40,890 Minning various grant accounts. 1274 01:54:41,110 --> 01:54:44,210 Minning the pension sales tax gap cost expenditure. 1275 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:47,010 Minning the utility cuts account. 1276 01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:51,350 Minning the engineering fee transfer from certain funds to the general fund. 1277 01:54:52,090 --> 01:55:00,230 Amending the sewer shutoff, reconnect fees and bad debt expense, and finally amending the health insurance in general liability claims expenses. 1278 01:55:00,910 --> 01:55:05,750 The purpose of the budget amendment is to recognize changes that have occurred since the annual budget was adopted. 1279 01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:14,410 This budget amendment increases expenditures across all funds by $6,500, $11,800. 1280 01:55:15,930 --> 01:55:20,130 This is a budget amendment based on expected expenditures for the year. 1281 01:55:20,690 --> 01:55:24,770 However, expenditures for the fiscal year will continue through December, while revenue 1282 01:55:24,770 --> 01:55:28,450 cruells will also continue to be booked through the same time period. 1283 01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:33,930 This is not a projection of ending fund balance in the various funds, but merely budgeted expenditures 1284 01:55:33,930 --> 01:55:37,650 compared to actual expenditures to ensure compliance with the charter. 1285 01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:42,470 The actual increase or decrease of various fund balances will not be known until the accrual 1286 01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:44,210 entries are completed for the annual audit. 1287 01:55:45,550 --> 01:55:48,550 Staff recommends approval of this council bill on an emergency basis. 1288 01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:52,330 We do have to amend the budget before the year end. 1289 01:55:53,270 --> 01:56:01,990 I do want to draw your attention to a few items, because this is across all funds. 1290 01:56:03,450 --> 01:56:08,810 So one of the larger items is the logger's gap cost for the pension sales tax. 1291 01:56:09,490 --> 01:56:14,030 I presented that to you a few months ago, I gave you that update. 1292 01:56:15,110 --> 01:56:18,350 which was just came in higher than what was anticipated. 1293 01:56:24,170 --> 01:56:25,230 We have a large item. 1294 01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:29,150 We're amending stormwater projects in the parks and stormwater sales tax. 1295 01:56:29,850 --> 01:56:38,710 That is just because projects are happening faster than what we realized when we put the 2025 budget together. 1296 01:56:39,130 --> 01:56:49,170 Along, a long time ago at this point, we're amending engineering fees and that's actually just a transfer from capital improvement sales tax to the general fund. 1297 01:56:49,170 --> 01:56:57,760 And in the sewer fund, we are amending for a bad debt expense, so that's just writing 1298 01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:58,580 off bad debt. 1299 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,160 So that is a book entry. 1300 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:07,160 Also you'll remember the water company increased the shut off, reconnect fees. 1301 01:57:07,940 --> 01:57:10,020 And so that item is being amended. 1302 01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:17,800 And then finally, a large ticket item in the General Liability Insurance Fund. 1303 01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:21,980 And so those are the major items that are being amended. 1304 01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:29,040 As a reminder, we try not to them in the budget after year end. 1305 01:57:29,740 --> 01:57:39,560 And so there is some, so we also cannot have a charter violation where our expenditures exceed our budget. 1306 01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,660 So this is just budget, it is not actual. 1307 01:57:43,660 --> 01:57:50,240 It's not actual expenditures, it's just ensuring that budget covers our actual expenditures. 1308 01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:53,580 So at that, I would be happy to answer any questions. 1309 01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,820 Council, any questions for our city finance director? 1310 01:57:58,640 --> 01:57:59,240 Mrs. Carlin. 1311 01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:12,040 If I understand correctly, we still have some expected funds coming in that have not been paid to the city for the year 2025. 1312 01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:25,100 Yes ma'am those will still continue to come in and if you will recall from the presentation I made in the informal our revenues at this point our CD NAR expenditures. 1313 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:25,920 Right. 1314 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:34,840 So we won't really know until we're in fiscal year 2026 if we've spent more than we brought in. 1315 01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,320 Is that a correct statement? 1316 01:58:36,580 --> 01:58:37,140 That is correct. 1317 01:58:37,140 --> 01:58:40,300 Right now, in the general fund, that is not how it's trendy. 1318 01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:45,700 Okay, so if we have spent more than we have brought in, 1319 01:58:46,420 --> 01:58:56,620 then that money would be funded through the various funds for, say, that department, or that category. 1320 01:58:57,340 --> 01:58:58,560 Fund balances? 1321 01:58:59,060 --> 01:59:00,340 Fund balance, yes. 1322 01:59:00,540 --> 01:59:00,740 Okay. 1323 01:59:00,740 --> 01:59:07,420 But again, this is across all of our 25 issues, it's not just a general. 1324 01:59:07,460 --> 01:59:08,360 No, I understand that. 1325 01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:16,520 So, will there be a time when we will actually see those final, final, final numbers? 1326 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:17,440 Yes, ma'am. 1327 01:59:17,740 --> 01:59:26,220 Okay, so we do final, financial statements, but it also is in our annual audit that gets presented to you all. 1328 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:27,700 Okay, thank you. 1329 01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:38,250 Anyone else, Leslie, is what we're doing tonight different than what we've done in the past? 1330 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:44,400 No, sir, other than I always try to sharpen my crystal ball. 1331 01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:49,410 Sometimes they're cloudy, too. 1332 01:59:50,010 --> 01:59:50,330 Yes, sir. 1333 01:59:50,670 --> 01:59:51,550 And sometimes they're clear. 1334 01:59:52,190 --> 01:59:52,510 Yes, sir. 1335 01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:55,810 Any other discussion? 1336 01:59:56,130 --> 01:59:57,850 Any other questions for Mrs. Haas? 1337 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,400 Thank you. Council, we've heard discussion on council bill 2025-537, chair will entertain a motion. 1338 02:00:07,260 --> 02:00:14,440 Mayor, Mr. Bard, I'm going to have that council bill 2025-537 be approved on an emergency basis. 1339 02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:22,220 Second, motion is made and properly seconded for the approval. Council bill 2025-537, on an emergency basis, please vote. 1340 02:00:22,220 --> 02:00:27,490 So that motion passes nine in favor next item, please. 1341 02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:42,550 Council Bill number 2025-538 in ordinance provided for the budget of the City of Joplin for the period from November 1st, 2025 to October 31st, 2026, estimating the revenues for said period and appropriating the purposes stated the sum set forth therein and containing an emergency cost. 1342 02:00:43,070 --> 02:00:45,730 I got a fill and I will see you for the next couple of these. 1343 02:00:46,210 --> 02:00:50,150 Yes, Mayor, I would like to present 538 and 539 together. 1344 02:00:50,150 --> 02:00:51,010 Please proceed. 1345 02:00:51,450 --> 02:00:55,930 So both of these council bills approve the fiscal year 26 budget. 1346 02:00:56,550 --> 02:01:03,410 538 excludes the fire department expenditures and 539 is adopting the fire department budget. 1347 02:01:04,950 --> 02:01:18,910 So in total, this budget estimates 167,735,758 dollars in revenue, including transfers, but excluding component units. 1348 02:01:18,910 --> 02:01:30,750 a total amount of $185,222,300 and $222,301 in appropriations, including transfers, but excluding component units. 1349 02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:42,000 There were some changes from the proposed budget to the adopted, that has been included for your reference. 1350 02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:54,980 And then this ordinance does include rolling approved incumbrances, which will be brought back to you in November to show the 1351 02:01:55,980 --> 02:02:02,520 budget that you're adopting, so the original budget, and then those incumbrances to come up to the final budget. 1352 02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:06,920 So I will bring that back most likely at the second meeting in November. 1353 02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:12,920 Both of these council bills do need to be approved before the end of the fiscal year. 1354 02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:17,920 So they are emergencies because our fiscal year starts on November 1st. 1355 02:02:18,860 --> 02:02:20,840 With that, I would be happy to answer any questions. 1356 02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:22,040 Council. 1357 02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:24,320 Mr. Coppel. 1358 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:35,460 Ms. Halls, 538 includes the payroll adjustments and the 2% COLA for all employees, correct? 1359 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:36,160 Yes, sir. 1360 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:42,920 Okay, thank you. Mr. Mayor, I will be abstaining from 538 and 539 due to a conflict of interest 1361 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:47,040 Thank you councilman couple anyone else 1362 02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:54,350 Council we've heard testimony on council bill 2025-538 charitable entertainer motion 1363 02:02:54,350 --> 02:02:54,950 Mr. 1364 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:04,960 Detar I move the approval of council bill number 2025-538 on emergency basis 1365 02:03:06,380 --> 02:03:11,680 Motion is made and probably seconded for the approval of Council Bill 2025-538 on emergency basis. 1366 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:12,220 Please vote. 1367 02:03:14,020 --> 02:03:16,600 Motion carries eight in favor with one abstention. 1368 02:03:16,780 --> 02:03:17,400 Next item, please. 1369 02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:26,080 Council Bill number 2025-539 in ordinance providing for the budget of the city of Japan for the period from November 1st, 2025 to October 31st, 2026. 1370 02:03:26,460 --> 02:03:33,020 Estimating the revenues for said period and appropriating for the purposes stated for the sums set forth therein and containing an emergency clause. 1371 02:03:33,020 --> 02:03:35,460 Council, we've heard testimony on this council bill. 1372 02:03:35,620 --> 02:03:36,520 Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1373 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,540 Mr. Jackson. 1374 02:03:38,940 --> 02:03:39,460 I make a motion. 1375 02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:42,060 Approved council bill 2025-539 on emergency basis. 1376 02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:49,040 Second, motion's been made and probably seconded for their approval of council bill 2025-539 on emergency basis. 1377 02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:49,540 Please vote. 1378 02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,180 Motion carries eight in favor with one abstention. 1379 02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:54,060 Next item, please. 1380 02:03:54,420 --> 02:04:02,860 Council bill number 2025-540, an ordinance adopting a new step paid plan by reference the city salary administration plan establishing the annual salary of certain classified 1381 02:04:02,860 --> 02:04:07,660 in unclassified positions, and part-time seasonal positions for fiscal year 2025, 2026, 1382 02:04:08,060 --> 02:04:14,420 adopting a new step paid plan by reference police salary administration plan, establishing the annual salary of certain police positions. 1383 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:22,600 Adafting a new step paid plan by reference fire salary administration plan, establishing the annual salary of certain fire positions and containing in the emergency clause. 1384 02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:23,480 Mr. Toss. 1385 02:04:24,140 --> 02:04:32,160 During the budget work session, City Council informally approved a 2% inflation adjustment to the salary administration for general police and 1386 02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:37,340 and fire employees, part time seasonal position positions, as well as created two new positions, 1387 02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:38,940 effective November 1st. 1388 02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:44,140 The new positions are assistant IT director and wastewater biosolids program supervisor. 1389 02:04:44,660 --> 02:04:48,860 These changes have been reflected on the various salary administration plans. 1390 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:57,700 And, again, this is an emergency so that these raises can go into effect on November 1st. 1391 02:04:57,960 --> 02:04:59,740 And this was discussed during the budget. 1392 02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:04,120 So, staff recommends approval of this council bill on our emergency basis. 1393 02:05:04,460 --> 02:05:06,220 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1394 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,140 Council, questions from Mrs. Haas. 1395 02:05:11,780 --> 02:05:12,300 Leslie, I see none. 1396 02:05:13,740 --> 02:05:19,200 Council, we've heard testimony on council bill 2025-540, Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1397 02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:19,660 Mayor. 1398 02:05:20,300 --> 02:05:21,220 Mr. G. Tar. 1399 02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:27,120 I've moved for the approval of council bill 2025-540 on emergency basis. 1400 02:05:27,740 --> 02:05:27,840 Second. 1401 02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:33,580 Second, motions made and probably seconded for the approval of Council Bill 2025-540 on 1402 02:05:33,580 --> 02:05:34,280 emergency basis. 1403 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:34,840 Please vote. 1404 02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:38,960 Motion carries. 1405 02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,620 Eight in favor with one abstention. 1406 02:05:42,900 --> 02:05:44,880 Council, we are going to take a break. 1407 02:05:45,420 --> 02:05:47,300 We will see you back in just a few minutes. 1408 02:06:46,060 --> 02:06:46,520 Council, 1409 02:10:41,370 --> 02:10:42,930 let's make our way back to our seats, please. 1410 02:10:43,310 --> 02:10:45,070 Council, let's make our way back to our seats. 1411 02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:49,120 Clerk, you ready? 1412 02:11:50,340 --> 02:11:51,560 Ordinance is first reading. 1413 02:11:53,180 --> 02:12:11,140 Council Bill number 2025-01-2, an ordinance emitting the criminal code of the city of Joplin, chapter 82, offensive and miscellaneous provisions, article 5, offenses against health and safety by enacting a new section, prohibiting the displacement of transient individuals in establishing a time for this ordinance to become effective. 1414 02:12:11,980 --> 02:12:15,520 Mayors, members of Council, I'll be presenting this ordinance tonight. 1415 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:24,640 Summary of this bill, it imposes a penalty, punishable under Section 1-5 for any individual entity or agent, 1416 02:12:25,260 --> 02:12:29,520 causing the unsanctioned displacement of a transient individual within the city of Joplin. 1417 02:12:29,980 --> 02:12:38,080 This bill includes specific language that describes the prohibition, it includes definitions as well as a number of legitimate exceptions. 1418 02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:51,820 The background here is that over the last few years, the city, by and through its police department and co-responder units has been able to confirm several instances of the prohibited conduct addressed within the ordinance. 1419 02:12:53,960 --> 02:13:08,060 There have been a number of displaced transient individuals and to name a few of them, Oklahoma police department or sorry, Oklahoma highway patrol has displaced that we know of to persons within the city of the city. 1420 02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:16,660 of Joplin, a medical center from Oklahoma as well, a medical center about an hour to the north. 1421 02:13:17,340 --> 02:13:22,860 Out of Nevada has displaced two individuals within the city of Joplin, and 1422 02:13:22,860 --> 02:13:29,240 we also have some regional police departments committing the same type of behavior. 1423 02:13:29,700 --> 02:13:32,500 This is placed to strain on public resources and 1424 02:13:32,500 --> 02:13:34,740 and created certain health and safety concerns 1425 02:13:34,980 --> 02:13:35,960 for the community. 1426 02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:40,120 It leaves the depletion of already limited resources 1427 02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:43,320 for local residents experiencing homelessness 1428 02:13:43,820 --> 02:13:45,180 in the community. 1429 02:13:45,980 --> 02:13:47,960 And this is an ordinance that's been designed 1430 02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:51,380 to prioritize citizens, resources, community health 1431 02:13:51,380 --> 02:13:53,700 and safety, and to deter other jurisdictions 1432 02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:57,040 from reckless displacement of transient individuals. 1433 02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:05,180 If there are any questions about the language within the ordinance, I'll do a brief overview. 1434 02:14:06,540 --> 02:14:14,660 The first section lists no person, and see or government agent from outside the city shall 1435 02:14:14,660 --> 02:14:19,160 knowingly cause a displacement of any non-local transit individual within the city of Japlin, 1436 02:14:19,460 --> 02:14:25,320 either directly or indirectly, by providing one way transport and drop off of said individual on 1437 02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:30,480 one public property or private property that is accessible to the public within the city of Droplin. 1438 02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:38,640 And when the person being transported and dropped off lacks a fixed regular and adequate nighttime residence, 1439 02:14:39,260 --> 02:14:44,020 it then provides a rather lengthy definition that I won't read out loud. 1440 02:14:44,260 --> 02:14:47,480 But I'm sure you've all had the time to review and I can answer questions. 1441 02:14:49,180 --> 02:14:53,700 Importantly, this does include a number of exceptions. 1442 02:14:53,700 --> 02:14:59,860 of this would not apply to any person being transported for the purposes of saving book. 1443 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,980 In addition to a jail, it would not apply to any person being transported for emergency medical services or treatment at a hospital, it would not apply to a person being transported to reside at a shelter, temporary housing, permanent housing, when the officer agent employee has independently verified that that individual being transported has been accepted to reside at the facility. It would not apply to a person being transported to a hospital. 1444 02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:39,040 a verified medical appointment or government non-profit social service or a court hearing. 1445 02:15:39,900 --> 02:15:45,560 Okay, and so there are a number of legitimate exceptions listed with that I will take any questions. 1446 02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:50,240 Council questions for Assistant City Attorney. 1447 02:15:51,220 --> 02:15:52,280 This is not much, Mr. Copper. 1448 02:15:53,240 --> 02:16:03,170 Yes ma'am, is this going to be a city charge or is this going to be handled through county? 1449 02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:08,610 This would be a municipal ordinance in our city code under chapter 82. 1450 02:16:09,230 --> 02:16:13,870 Okay, is this going to be considered an extra valuable offense? 1451 02:16:14,930 --> 02:16:17,310 Our municipal charges are not extra valuable. 1452 02:16:17,710 --> 02:16:18,670 I really didn't think so. 1453 02:16:18,670 --> 02:16:47,410 So, as much as I applaud the concept behind the ordinance, it doesn't really have any teeth because we're talking about somebody from outside the city, sending somebody into the city, but because by nature, there are outside the city, unless they're caught actively driving them into town and dropping them off at that specific time. 1454 02:16:48,290 --> 02:16:52,750 There's really not a whole lot we're going to do about these people other than having 1455 02:16:52,750 --> 02:16:53,830 charges sitting on the books. 1456 02:16:54,770 --> 02:16:58,950 And I would say that applies to any criminal charge. 1457 02:16:58,950 --> 02:17:00,930 You get a speeding ticket in City of Joplin. 1458 02:17:00,970 --> 02:17:06,350 You might not live in City of Joplin, but you still have a speeding ticket or anything. 1459 02:17:06,810 --> 02:17:10,050 It just simply because you're not a resident of Joplin. 1460 02:17:10,050 --> 02:17:16,130 And you still are subject to these penalties. 1461 02:17:17,330 --> 02:17:21,650 Will you be arrested on a warrant, unlikely? 1462 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:33,570 Well, you can't be held to penalties until you prove and guilty in a court of law and we can't get him to stand in front of a court of law unless they're in town and presented for such. 1463 02:17:34,370 --> 02:17:42,670 Yes, and that is the court process where if the person fails to appear, then a summons is issued. 1464 02:17:42,770 --> 02:17:48,010 That is a court order, failing to appear for a court order, is yet again another offense. 1465 02:17:49,650 --> 02:17:51,470 So we're going to mail them tickets? 1466 02:17:52,450 --> 02:17:59,910 And that is sometimes the service that is served to people that just come to court. 1467 02:18:00,650 --> 02:18:07,150 I'm just trying to play this out like I said, I understand and I like the concept behind it. 1468 02:18:07,470 --> 02:18:17,370 I'm trying to visualize where the rubber meets the road is, how is this going to be put into play and into practice? 1469 02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:21,110 And I agree with you that enforcement will be difficult. 1470 02:18:21,970 --> 02:18:22,870 Okay, thank you. 1471 02:18:23,670 --> 02:18:24,610 Mr. Lawson. 1472 02:18:25,650 --> 02:18:27,410 Who is the offender? 1473 02:18:29,790 --> 02:18:32,610 the person entity or agent. 1474 02:18:33,630 --> 02:18:44,810 I mean, is that like my experience when I worked at the hospital and such was they were sent to job and they weren't brought to job on all the time, you know. 1475 02:18:45,310 --> 02:18:48,650 So did somebody commit an offensive? 1476 02:18:48,650 --> 02:18:50,190 They just sent the person here? 1477 02:18:51,570 --> 02:18:56,050 And I would have to look at a specific factual scenario to give you an answer. 1478 02:18:56,050 --> 02:19:02,330 where the idea is to hold other jurisdictions responsible for the drinks. 1479 02:19:02,390 --> 02:19:03,390 Well, we've got to start somewhere. 1480 02:19:04,050 --> 02:19:12,470 So I agree with Mr. Coffle that's probably going to be re-limited on how well we can enforce it, but I'm willing to. 1481 02:19:13,610 --> 02:19:20,930 I think we should say, hey, if you're not supposed to do this and put a little teeth we can into it. 1482 02:19:21,630 --> 02:19:22,410 So thank you. 1483 02:19:23,130 --> 02:19:31,170 Mr. Jackson, I was just going to kind of ask the hypothetical, I mean, so in the instance, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol did this we knew who that was. 1484 02:19:31,170 --> 02:19:39,990 I mean, how well does that look for that individual's record whenever they go for their promotion or whatever they may do in their job that you have outstanding charges sitting in some other city and state? 1485 02:19:40,510 --> 02:19:44,490 These things actually will have repercussions in their professional lives if you don't take care of them. 1486 02:19:44,650 --> 02:19:49,550 And certainly for any peace officer cannot incur a criminal charge. 1487 02:19:49,550 --> 02:20:02,910 So, you know, it's, there's teeth to it in another way than just, you know, the criminal penalty, the fact that, you know, some people you have a professional job, you cannot have any blemishes on, you know, can make a difference. 1488 02:20:03,070 --> 02:20:13,430 As well as healthcare facilities are dropping off patients that cannot care for themselves, that is certainly tarnishing the reputation of the healthcare facility. 1489 02:20:13,430 --> 02:20:16,670 So I, is it perfect? 1490 02:20:17,010 --> 02:20:19,010 No, but I think it's got some really good framework to it. 1491 02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:27,230 And I appreciate, you know, the legal team here at the city working on that with Councilman Bard, and I'm a supporter of this, so thank you. 1492 02:20:28,330 --> 02:20:30,610 Mr. Bard, thank you, Mayor. 1493 02:20:31,070 --> 02:20:40,650 Well, this also include any entity or agency inside the city that will knowingly bring in an individual with no purpose of 1494 02:20:40,650 --> 02:20:43,770 giving him bedding or an overnight? 1495 02:20:44,570 --> 02:20:47,370 No, this is meant for. 1496 02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:49,470 Outside agencies only. 1497 02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:53,250 Really to hold outside jurisdictions responsible. 1498 02:20:54,120 --> 02:21:02,910 This is really not directed toward any entity operating within the city. 1499 02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:04,710 Thank you. 1500 02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:07,460 Anyone else? 1501 02:21:07,460 --> 02:21:08,340 I 1502 02:21:10,780 --> 02:21:31,700 think what I'm hearing, and I like things, you know, kind of country boy language to me, we don't want, and we're putting our foot down and saying, if you violate this ordinance, we're going to try to hold you to account. 1503 02:21:31,700 --> 02:21:39,320 You can not knowingly just put somebody in a vehicle and bring them to the streets of Joplin and drop them off and say, good luck. 1504 02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:42,120 That's not how this is going to work. 1505 02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:56,600 I think, without going into gory details, that the city of Joplin has adequate evidence to be able to present that this has occurred in our city in the past. 1506 02:21:56,600 --> 02:22:08,980 Without sitting up here in naming names, we know of some reputable organizations that have violated the spirit of this ordinance. 1507 02:22:09,700 --> 02:22:23,300 And I think what we're saying is we love our neighbors, but you cannot bring people and just drop them on the streets of this community without good reason for that. 1508 02:22:23,300 --> 02:22:31,480 And you should be responsible for that if you in fact do do that and we're putting in an ordinance in place 1509 02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:35,140 It's going to help us hold you responsible for that 1510 02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,980 So council we have heard testimony on 1511 02:22:40,960 --> 02:22:44,780 Council bill 2025-012 chair will entertain a motion 1512 02:22:44,780 --> 02:22:45,780 Mr. 1513 02:22:49,610 --> 02:22:55,590 Barrett I move that council bill 2025-01 to be passed on first reading advanced second third 1514 02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:56,110 Second. 1515 02:22:56,790 --> 02:23:02,730 Motion's been made and properly seconded for the approval of Council Bill 2025-012 on first 1516 02:23:02,730 --> 02:23:05,190 reading and advance the second and third, please vote. 1517 02:23:06,730 --> 02:23:08,930 Motion carries nine in favor. 1518 02:23:09,970 --> 02:23:10,730 Next item, please. 1519 02:23:11,390 --> 02:23:12,910 Council Bill number 2025-279. 1520 02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:18,690 In ordinance emitting the Joplin Development Code, ordinance number 2022-119 passed by the 1521 02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:23,570 Council of the City of Joplin, Missouri, August 1st, 2022, being appendix 29A of the Joplin 1522 02:23:23,570 --> 02:23:24,230 municipal code. 1523 02:23:24,770 --> 02:23:31,130 Mr. Bolander. Good evening. Good evening. And I won't be up here too long. As you know, we've held two public 1524 02:23:31,130 --> 02:23:37,110 hearings on this in the work session. Hopefully you guys have a understanding of what we're proposing 1525 02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:44,090 to amendments to our zoning code. Most of them are just corrections. We've moved some language over 1526 02:23:44,090 --> 02:23:51,270 from our previous code. And we did add a few new things to it that just here to answer any last questions 1527 02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:54,550 you may have it, have of it, but we recommend approval of the code. 1528 02:23:56,270 --> 02:23:56,710 Council, 1529 02:23:58,920 --> 02:24:00,420 thank you, Troy. I see no questions. 1530 02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:06,840 Council, we've heard testimony on Council Bill 2025-279, Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1531 02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:08,780 Mr. Mayor. Mr. Comple. 1532 02:24:09,300 --> 02:24:14,240 I move for the passage of Council Bill 2025-279 on first reading, 1533 02:24:14,380 --> 02:24:16,000 advance the second and third. Second. 1534 02:24:16,300 --> 02:24:18,620 Motion is made and properly seconded for the approval. 1535 02:24:18,620 --> 02:24:24,940 Council Bill 2025-279 on first reading, advanced second and third, please vote. 1536 02:24:28,510 --> 02:24:29,270 Please vote. 1537 02:24:29,790 --> 02:24:31,990 Motion carries nine in favor. 1538 02:24:32,450 --> 02:24:33,090 Next item, please. 1539 02:24:33,630 --> 02:24:40,290 Council Bill number 2025-286, an ordinance approving a purchase order to be issued to Coral and Ford Republic. 1540 02:24:40,570 --> 02:24:48,230 To cover the cost of three, 2025 Ford Ranger 4x4 crew cabs, for the total of $113,168. 1541 02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:52,050 $100 and $0.88, within the approved city of Joblin, fiscal year 2024, 1542 02:24:52,370 --> 02:24:56,170 2025, budget with an effective date of November 4th, 2025. 1543 02:24:58,590 --> 02:25:04,230 Just to be my last one for tonight, so this is a administrative request as you are aware. 1544 02:25:05,150 --> 02:25:10,550 Anything, any purchase orders, over $100,000 we have to bring before this body for approval. 1545 02:25:11,110 --> 02:25:14,770 This was actually in our current budget, so we're not amending anything. 1546 02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:22,430 your last budget approval, you allocated $120,000 to purchase three vehicles for 1547 02:25:22,430 --> 02:25:24,750 neighborhood services as replacement vehicles. 1548 02:25:25,690 --> 02:25:32,130 What we are replacing, or like I said, three vehicles, two of them are 20, 10, 1549 02:25:32,310 --> 02:25:36,330 four to rangers, and one of them is a 2009 four to ranger. 1550 02:25:36,590 --> 02:25:38,930 So those are the vehicles replacing the neighborhood services. 1551 02:25:38,930 --> 02:25:41,290 because we did put out a bid. 1552 02:25:42,010 --> 02:25:44,450 The lowest bid was submitted by Quorum Ford, 1553 02:25:45,490 --> 02:25:48,530 other republic for $113,200. 1554 02:25:49,570 --> 02:25:51,070 So we are a little bit under budget. 1555 02:25:51,470 --> 02:25:54,410 So we recommend that you use up this bid, 1556 02:25:54,890 --> 02:25:58,730 and we'll proceed with putting together a purchase order. 1557 02:26:01,250 --> 02:26:02,070 Questions, council? 1558 02:26:03,650 --> 02:26:04,170 Mr. Copeland? 1559 02:26:06,180 --> 02:26:09,180 Just because of all of the budget conversations we've had 1560 02:26:09,180 --> 02:26:16,360 before. I'm curious, Mr. City Manager, so we're going to approve this, but this will end 1561 02:26:16,360 --> 02:26:24,660 up being a, I'm sorry, I can't remember the term, but we're going to carry it over in 1562 02:26:24,660 --> 02:26:29,860 an incumbrance going on to the next budget because it won't be approved until after the 1563 02:26:29,860 --> 02:26:35,320 next meeting and then so many days after that. So we'll actually be in the 26th budget, 1564 02:26:35,320 --> 02:26:37,500 but we're approving it here and it'll just be 1565 02:26:37,500 --> 02:26:38,900 encumbered into the following budget. 1566 02:26:40,420 --> 02:26:41,620 That's correct, sir. 1567 02:26:41,820 --> 02:26:43,940 Unless we were to take approval before, 1568 02:26:46,620 --> 02:26:48,900 take, receive them before the 31st, 1569 02:26:48,900 --> 02:26:51,360 which I don't think is likely to have a date 1570 02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:52,700 when you'd receive those, Troy. 1571 02:26:53,060 --> 02:26:53,980 How can we take a, 1572 02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:56,000 how can we take possession of them 1573 02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:58,180 when we haven't approved the purchase of them? 1574 02:26:58,540 --> 02:26:59,700 That's what I'm saying. 1575 02:26:59,940 --> 02:27:02,360 It's, yeah, highly likely it'll be an error. 1576 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:09,880 I just wanted to make sure I was clear on how I was going to play out and make sure everybody understands it's being 1577 02:27:09,880 --> 02:27:13,280 encumbered into. It's approved in this budget that will be encumbered into the next one. 1578 02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:15,140 They will get the next one. Thank you. 1579 02:27:16,220 --> 02:27:20,940 At a $6,800 savings to what we originally budgeted as well. 1580 02:27:21,460 --> 02:27:22,820 Yes. Any other questions? 1581 02:27:24,020 --> 02:27:25,020 Thank you, Mr. Bolander. 1582 02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:27,580 Council, we've heard testimony on this. 1583 02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:31,200 Council Bill 2025-286. Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1584 02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:43,580 Mr. Farnham, Dr. Farnham, Mayor, I move that Council Bill number 2025-286 be passed on first reading in advance of second and third. 1585 02:27:43,940 --> 02:27:44,460 Second. 1586 02:27:45,100 --> 02:27:47,480 Motion's been made and properly seconded for the approval. 1587 02:27:48,020 --> 02:27:51,840 Council Bill 2025-286 on first reading, advance second and third, please vote. 1588 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,440 Motion carries nine in favor, next item please. 1589 02:27:55,440 --> 02:28:22,760 Council Bill number 2025-541, an ordinance adopting a new step pay plan by reference, the City Salary Administration Plan, establishing the annual salary of certain classified and unclassified positions, and part-time seasonal positions, effective January 1st, 2026, adopting the new step pay plan by reference, the fire salary administration plan, establishing the annual salary of certain fire positions, effective January 1st, 2026, and setting the date when this ordinance shall become effective. 1590 02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:23,920 Ms. Haas. 1591 02:28:24,420 --> 02:28:25,040 Thank you, Mayor. 1592 02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:30,400 This council bill approves an updated general employee salary administration plan. 1593 02:28:30,860 --> 02:28:35,320 Fort time seasonal salary administration plan and the fire or salary administration plan. 1594 02:28:35,740 --> 02:28:38,420 By complying with House Bill 567, 1595 02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:44,860 pursuant to revised statute 290.500 through 290.502, 1596 02:28:45,020 --> 02:28:49,420 making the minimum wage $15 affected January 1, 2026, 1597 02:28:49,420 --> 02:28:52,460 which is now applicable to public employers. 1598 02:28:53,980 --> 02:29:01,400 Governor recently signed this House Bill and beginning August 28th, 2025. 1599 02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:07,100 Public employers in the state were required to pay non-exempt employees a minimum of 1375 per hour. 1600 02:29:07,660 --> 02:29:11,020 And starting January 1st, 2026, $15 per hour. 1601 02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:17,960 Prior to the passage of this bill, public employers were exempted from Missouri's minimum wage law. 1602 02:29:17,960 --> 02:29:20,860 And we're only required to follow the federal minimum wage. 1603 02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:30,660 In early September, City Council approved a modification to the Fire Pay Plan to address the firefighter EMT position that started below 1375 an hour. 1604 02:29:31,160 --> 02:29:41,240 On January 1st, 2026, there will be certain general employees, fire and part-time seasonal positions below the required minimum wage of $15 per hour. 1605 02:29:43,580 --> 02:29:56,850 So the new pay plans will be making adjustments for general employees, steps one through three of grade N1 and step one of grade N2 will be removed. 1606 02:29:56,850 --> 02:29:59,290 This will make the starting paper in 115. 1607 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,960 29 per hour, which is $31,810 annually, and for in 2, 15, 72 an hour, which is $32,700 annually. 1608 02:30:11,580 --> 02:30:19,380 Or fire employee steps 4 through 6 will be removed from grade F2, while steps 1 through 3 will be removed from grade F4. 1609 02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:27,360 This will make the starting paper F2, 15, 36 per hour, which is $44,723 annually. 1610 02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:33,500 and 1583 per hour or $46,106 annually for F4. 1611 02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:39,500 The first grade on the part-time seasonal pay plan will be removed and combined with the second grade. 1612 02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:45,820 This will make the starting pay for those positions, $15.34 per hour. 1613 02:30:46,380 --> 02:30:50,180 There are six general plan employees impacted by the minimum wage change. 1614 02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:55,100 The total cost for implementing this short-term resolution is $18,000. 1615 02:30:55,100 --> 02:31:09,960 of which 15,000 is the estimated 2026 fiscal year cost of this amount, 8,300 represents the general fund cost with the remainder occurring in solid waste park storm, our sales tax and TST funds. 1616 02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:13,920 These amounts are included in the 2026 budget. 1617 02:31:14,580 --> 02:31:20,460 There are 34 fire plan employees impacted by this minimum wage change, so it will estimated cost for 1618 02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:27,920 For implementing the short-term resolution is $147,000, while the fiscal year cost is $122,500. 1619 02:31:28,380 --> 02:31:35,260 The amount is split approximately $57,500 to the general fund and $65,000 to the public safety sales tax fund. 1620 02:31:35,780 --> 02:31:38,500 And again, these are included in the 26th budget. 1621 02:31:39,740 --> 02:31:43,860 It is more difficult to project the impact of the seasonal pay plan. 1622 02:31:44,500 --> 02:31:51,340 However, we're projecting 56,000 in the parks fund for 2026, which has been included in the budget. 1623 02:31:52,780 --> 02:31:57,160 Removing steps from the current pay plans to meet the state mandate is a short term solution. 1624 02:31:57,300 --> 02:32:01,580 The short term solution does create compression for the general employee and fire pay plans. 1625 02:32:01,960 --> 02:32:06,700 This compression doesn't retain the internal equity that has been previously established. 1626 02:32:07,340 --> 02:32:10,820 This will certainly need to be addressed through a long term solution, 1627 02:32:10,820 --> 02:32:25,040 which we are currently working on, however, the long term solution to address compression and internal equity caused by the unfunded state minimum wage mandate, as well as overall wages will require a new funding source. 1628 02:32:25,780 --> 02:32:35,120 We did discuss this during the budget work sessions, and this will not go into effect until January 1st, but staff recommends approval of this council bill on first reading. 1629 02:32:37,480 --> 02:32:40,560 Council, any questions for City Finance, Director? 1630 02:32:43,370 --> 02:32:44,870 Seeing none, Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1631 02:32:45,070 --> 02:32:45,450 Mr. Mayor. 1632 02:32:45,970 --> 02:32:46,610 Mr. Dittar. 1633 02:32:46,730 --> 02:32:50,890 I move for the approval of Council Bill 2025-41 on first reading. 1634 02:32:50,890 --> 02:32:52,010 Advance the second and third. 1635 02:32:52,210 --> 02:32:52,490 The second. 1636 02:32:53,070 --> 02:32:55,270 Motion is made and probably seconded for the approval. 1637 02:32:55,490 --> 02:32:55,630 I've found. 1638 02:32:58,190 --> 02:33:03,750 Council Bill 2025-541 on first reading, advance the second and third, please vote. 1639 02:33:05,430 --> 02:33:08,250 Motion carries eight in favor with one abstention. 1640 02:33:08,250 --> 02:33:09,630 and next item, please. 1641 02:33:10,710 --> 02:33:15,350 Council Bill number 2025-619, in order to prevent a memorandum of understanding and 1642 02:33:15,350 --> 02:33:19,170 an agreement by and between the City of Joplin, Missouri, a municipal corporation and 1643 02:33:19,170 --> 02:33:23,570 Joplin family YMCA, response or ship rights on the premises of the 10 cup trail, 1644 02:33:23,710 --> 02:33:28,030 authorizing the city manager to execute said memorandum of understanding and 1645 02:33:28,030 --> 02:33:32,250 agreement, and such other documents as may be necessary, by and on behalf of the City of Joplin, Missouri. 1646 02:33:32,250 --> 02:33:33,970 Any more? 1647 02:33:34,270 --> 02:33:34,770 Any more? 1648 02:33:37,490 --> 02:33:38,330 A little bit of background. 1649 02:33:38,730 --> 02:33:45,050 If you remember in January of 2024, our public works director, Dan Johnson presented 1650 02:33:45,050 --> 02:33:51,190 to City Council, the potential agreement between the Joplin Family YMCA and the City of Joplin 1651 02:33:51,190 --> 02:33:59,410 for dedicating easements for the construction of the Tinkup Trail, which was valued at that time of $130,000. 1652 02:34:00,230 --> 02:34:10,910 In turn, the city would enter into this agreement, allowing the job and family why, the sponsorship rights at the bridge, trailhead, and the other two trailheads on the team cup trail. 1653 02:34:11,530 --> 02:34:21,250 Those two other trailheads would be the one off a 30 second street in front of the Y and then off of Glendale down there by Mac and 1654 02:34:21,250 --> 02:34:25,190 in Doe Park, that was included in your packet, a map. 1655 02:34:26,390 --> 02:34:36,190 All the sponsorship rights, naming rights, or assignments would be approved in riding by the city prior to any placement on any signage on the premises. 1656 02:34:37,790 --> 02:34:39,390 Also a little bit of background. 1657 02:34:39,830 --> 02:34:50,490 The total project expense for the 10 cup trail, including the bridge is just under $3.3 million, the 10 cup trail and bridge is funded from two separate funds. 1658 02:34:50,490 --> 02:34:57,070 We have a contract with Hartman in the amount of 1.6 million for the trail, which is funded by parks and 1659 02:34:57,070 --> 02:35:08,430 storm our sales tax, and Elements has the contract for the bridge, which is just under, it's that 1.6 million funded from the ARPA and TST. 1660 02:35:09,130 --> 02:35:14,050 Funding source is not apical in this, and staff recommends this on first reading. 1661 02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:18,220 Council, any questions for Mr. Bloomberg? 1662 02:35:21,540 --> 02:35:22,580 Paul Cena, thank you. 1663 02:35:23,620 --> 02:35:26,000 We've heard testimony, Council Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1664 02:35:26,900 --> 02:35:27,600 Mr. Mayor. 1665 02:35:28,260 --> 02:35:28,840 Mr. Lawson. 1666 02:35:29,140 --> 02:35:40,120 In honor of Mr. Estrada, who has spent the night with us, I move that council bill number of 2025-619 be approved on first reading. 1667 02:35:40,500 --> 02:35:40,660 Second. 1668 02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:42,020 Second. 1669 02:35:42,500 --> 02:35:50,460 The motion is made and properly seconded for the approval of Council Bill 2025-619 on 1st Street in advance of 2nd and 3rd. 1670 02:35:50,460 --> 02:35:50,920 Please vote. 1671 02:35:52,460 --> 02:35:55,020 That motion passes 9 in favor. 1672 02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:56,160 Next item, please. 1673 02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:58,660 Council Bill, number 2025-620. 1674 02:35:58,900 --> 02:36:10,780 In order to prove in a contract by and between the City of Joplin and Joplin industrial electric company in the amount of $1,698,100 for park security lighting installation authorizing the city manager to execute. 1675 02:36:10,780 --> 02:36:20,840 You said contract by on behalf of the City of Joplin and amending the annual budget of the City of Joplin for fiscal year 2025, 2026 as adopted by an ordinance 2025-145 on October 20th, 2025. 1676 02:36:21,340 --> 02:36:22,020 You're back. 1677 02:36:22,340 --> 02:36:22,660 I'm back. 1678 02:36:23,140 --> 02:36:23,500 All right. 1679 02:36:23,960 --> 02:36:26,580 It's weird to see having up here twice, isn't it, in one night. 1680 02:36:26,940 --> 02:36:27,540 Usually it's just one. 1681 02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:36,060 Again, I like to give a little bit of background in my ordinance's security lighting and security cameras. 1682 02:36:36,060 --> 02:36:41,680 As our voter approved projects through the phase three of the quarter cent parks and 1683 02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:47,720 stormwater sales tax, the security lighting will make our parks safer, which was a high priority 1684 02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:54,520 based on the comments from our citizens during our parks master plan process, also during 1685 02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:56,040 the city manager's listening tour. 1686 02:36:57,140 --> 02:37:03,280 The parks that will be included in this project are Leonard E. Wirt, Landruth, Humphrey, 1687 02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:05,420 Garvin, Cunningham, and Parhill. 1688 02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:10,480 Mercy Park has already been done, has already been completed. 1689 02:37:11,740 --> 02:37:16,400 Both of these projects were originally included in the fiscal year 2025 approved budget. 1690 02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:24,880 However, because this ordinance will not be effective until November, this item includes a fiscal year 2026 budget amendment for 1691 02:37:24,880 --> 02:37:34,060 parks and stormwater sales tax fund an amount of $1.6 million, $1.1 million, $698,100. 1692 02:37:35,140 --> 02:37:40,320 The security camera RFP is being advertised this week and will be brought to the City Council 1693 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:41,240 in the near future. 1694 02:37:43,180 --> 02:37:53,360 The original security ligand estimate came in, well, was $1,510 million while the security 1695 02:37:53,360 --> 02:37:56,040 a camera estimate was 300 million. 1696 02:37:56,580 --> 02:38:09,400 This item includes $1,568,000 for the Security Liding Project while there is 130,000 included 1697 02:38:09,400 --> 02:38:11,980 for the conduit for the Security Camera Project. 1698 02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:17,900 Additionally, Security Liding at Mercy Park has already been installed as part of the overall 1699 02:38:17,900 --> 02:38:29,920 security lighting project in the amount of $122,271 on the back side that you all 1700 02:38:29,920 --> 02:38:36,220 receive is a breakdown of the budget. It kind of explains it a little bit 1701 02:38:36,220 --> 02:38:45,020 better. So you can see the security lighting original budget was $1,510,000 less 1702 02:38:45,020 --> 02:38:52,160 the mercy park security lighting, which was 122,000 less than the Joplin Industrial Electric 1703 02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:58,860 Actual Security Lighting Contract, which was 1,568,000. 1704 02:38:58,860 --> 02:39:02,780 So we have a total over original budget of 180,000. 1705 02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:12,320 The security camera budget, original budgets 300,000 less, the actual bid for the conduit 1706 02:39:12,320 --> 02:39:15,940 of 130,000 in this security camera lighting. 1707 02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:20,520 So the remaining balance, we have 170,000. 1708 02:39:21,140 --> 02:39:23,920 So with all those numbers thrown at you, 1709 02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:26,420 the overrun on the security lighting, 1710 02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:31,720 original budget will be funded by the combination of three ways. 1711 02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:35,340 Either one, some approved projects coming in under budget, 1712 02:39:35,700 --> 02:39:37,300 such as the Mercy Electrical, 1713 02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:41,040 which we did come in under that project, $56,000. 1714 02:39:43,020 --> 02:39:54,820 two rolled funding from phase two of the parks and stormwater sales tax or three higher than projected sales tax revenue over the next ten years, ten year life of the tax. 1715 02:39:55,740 --> 02:40:08,600 The funding source for this project includes a budget amendment for the fiscal year of 2026 parks and stormwater sales tax fund and staff recommends this approval on council bill first reading. 1716 02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:10,600 That was a lot. 1717 02:40:11,580 --> 02:40:12,800 You did talk a lot. 1718 02:40:13,120 --> 02:40:13,440 A lot. 1719 02:40:14,400 --> 02:40:15,220 Councilor Mr. Jackson. 1720 02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:20,620 I imagine this is probably more of a question for Mr. Edwards than he'll probably have to let us leave it. 1721 02:40:22,140 --> 02:40:31,080 Without the funding being certain as to what we're going to finance this, I mean, why not look at an option of the parks department through the parks and storm water sales tax will. 1722 02:40:31,840 --> 02:40:36,180 You know, far from the reserves and pay that back with the parks and storm water sales tax funds. 1723 02:40:36,180 --> 02:40:43,600 I think we need to have a defined funding mechanism before we just execute a check for almost $1.7 million as my concern. 1724 02:40:45,240 --> 02:40:48,860 Mr. Jackson, I think that's exactly what Paul laid out. 1725 02:40:49,020 --> 02:40:51,700 We already know we have savings from one of our projects. 1726 02:40:52,860 --> 02:41:02,840 And then revenue due to the parks and stormwater, the parks fund from the parks and stormwater sales tax over 10 year period. 1727 02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:08,720 We feel really confident in that being over and above the estimate. 1728 02:41:09,180 --> 02:41:13,300 And then there's still room for cost savings within the projects themselves. 1729 02:41:13,700 --> 02:41:21,780 So we feel confident that we can absorb this cost within the parks fund using the parks storm on our sales tax. 1730 02:41:22,960 --> 02:41:28,400 But just to make it more clean when it be better to say, let's borrow the funds from the reserves and then over time pay that back. 1731 02:41:28,960 --> 02:41:34,210 I mean, I don't think that's necessary. 1732 02:41:34,210 --> 02:41:38,850 Secretary, Mr. Jackson, but Leslie, do you have a cleaner way of doing it? 1733 02:41:39,790 --> 02:41:47,090 One of the comments during my evaluation was to have greater understanding of the finance, 1734 02:41:47,410 --> 02:41:52,250 the total picture, as was mentioned, and so we're trying to include as much of that information 1735 02:41:52,250 --> 02:41:53,850 as we can in these council bells. 1736 02:41:54,730 --> 02:41:59,030 Yeah, so essentially that is what we're doing, Mr. Jackson, and the fact that March 12, 1737 02:41:59,030 --> 02:42:06,090 From our sales tax, we collect that money for a long time period and then we do the project. 1738 02:42:06,350 --> 02:42:07,890 So the money is sitting there in reserves. 1739 02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:19,310 What we're showing on this council bill, as Nick has said, is what you all have asked for to see the whole picture, but the money is there. 1740 02:42:19,890 --> 02:42:26,730 The only reason the budget is being a minute is because it was actually included in 2025 just didn't quite get done. 1741 02:42:26,730 --> 02:42:28,770 So we need to amend 2026. 1742 02:42:32,310 --> 02:42:34,030 Mr. St. Andrew County, crack at this? 1743 02:42:36,360 --> 02:42:37,880 Mr. Mayor, can I take a crack at this? 1744 02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:39,760 Yes, go right ahead. 1745 02:42:39,760 --> 02:42:41,180 I'm going to point it at you, so I'm going to go ahead. 1746 02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:46,120 You said Parks and Stormwater Phase 2, which is the one 1747 02:42:46,120 --> 02:42:47,400 that's wrapping up right now. 1748 02:42:47,820 --> 02:42:50,340 It's not Phase 3, which we're getting ready to go into. 1749 02:42:50,900 --> 02:42:54,240 So between what we saved at St. John's, 1750 02:42:54,360 --> 02:43:00,900 plus the fund balances in the Parks and Stormwater 1751 02:43:00,900 --> 02:43:07,580 phase two because we always keep contingency money plus cost saving so we will have that 1752 02:43:07,580 --> 02:43:12,220 money left over in phase two. Once it finally is complete we have one or two more projects 1753 02:43:12,720 --> 02:43:18,340 left to finish out of phase two. So once that's done we'll know exactly what's there but 1754 02:43:18,340 --> 02:43:24,180 we are talking about taking it out of the reserve balances from parks and storm water phase 1755 02:43:24,180 --> 02:43:30,700 two to pay for that which will already be there. We just have to let everything finish 1756 02:43:30,700 --> 02:43:32,180 before we know exactly what's there. 1757 02:43:33,080 --> 02:43:33,540 Is that it? 1758 02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:34,280 Is that appropriate? 1759 02:43:34,740 --> 02:43:34,860 Yes. 1760 02:43:38,440 --> 02:43:39,400 You're good, Mr. Jackson. 1761 02:43:40,080 --> 02:43:40,760 Anyone else? 1762 02:43:41,060 --> 02:43:41,580 Mr. Copp? 1763 02:43:42,820 --> 02:43:45,440 Mr. Bloomberg, just so everybody's clear, 1764 02:43:46,340 --> 02:43:49,540 we lined out this project in 2024. 1765 02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:51,260 We put it together. 1766 02:43:51,520 --> 02:43:54,060 We said this is what the engineers asked us 1767 02:43:54,060 --> 02:43:55,640 is what we thought it was gonna cost. 1768 02:43:56,140 --> 02:43:57,700 We're prior to 2024 maybe. 1769 02:43:58,000 --> 02:43:58,700 Prior to 2021. 1770 02:43:59,320 --> 02:44:02,260 Okay, so 2021, we said this project should cost. 1771 02:44:03,740 --> 02:44:11,400 $1.5 million, $1.510 million, and fast forward four years later, costs have gone up. 1772 02:44:11,600 --> 02:44:21,640 We didn't calculate the interest rates and supply chain issues to force prices up quite as high as what they did. 1773 02:44:22,220 --> 02:44:25,080 So that's where that project is. 1774 02:44:25,280 --> 02:44:30,280 This project wasn't specifically said in the budget that hey, this is what it's going to cost. 1775 02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:36,920 And then, okay, magically, six months later, we're off by a couple hundred thousand dollars. 1776 02:44:37,180 --> 02:44:40,920 It's, we're basing this off of a 2021 price. 1777 02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:47,140 That was adjusted for inflation, but our adjustment calculations weren't exactly right. 1778 02:44:47,540 --> 02:44:54,140 But that's the budget that we had, and this is reality, so that's why there's the numbers don't exactly line up. 1779 02:44:54,140 --> 02:44:54,760 Is that a fair assessment? 1780 02:44:55,340 --> 02:44:55,880 Yes, absolutely. 1781 02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:56,080 Absolutely. 1782 02:44:56,520 --> 02:44:56,960 Thanks, sir. 1783 02:45:00,910 --> 02:45:25,830 I see no other concerns, Mr. Bloomberg. Council, we've heard testimony on Council Bill 2025-620, Chair will entertain a motion. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Coppel. I move for the passage of Council Bill 2025-620 on first reading and advance the second and third. Second. Motion is made and probably seconded for the approval. Council Bill 2025-620 on first reading, advance second and third. Please vote. 1784 02:45:28,050 --> 02:45:29,810 Motion carries nine in favor. 1785 02:45:29,810 --> 02:45:32,570 Ordinance's second reading and third reading. 1786 02:45:32,830 --> 02:45:42,650 Council Bill number 2025-142, an ordinance approving amendment one to work authorization, OLS, two fours, OC, 001, was Olsen for 1787 02:45:42,650 --> 02:45:55,230 professional engineering consultation services and not take seat amount of $61,150 for the seventh street sanitary sewer relocation project in authorizing the city manager to 1788 02:45:56,450 --> 02:46:02,390 Or his designated execute the same by on behalf of the City of Chaplin and setting a date when this ordinance shall become effective. 1789 02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:04,840 All right. 1790 02:46:05,060 --> 02:46:07,720 Council, we've heard previous testimony on this council bill. 1791 02:46:07,880 --> 02:46:08,580 Is there any discussion? 1792 02:46:10,670 --> 02:46:12,310 Seeing none, Chair, we'll entertain a motion. 1793 02:46:12,730 --> 02:46:13,110 Mr. Mayor. 1794 02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:14,150 Mr. G. Tar. 1795 02:46:14,790 --> 02:46:18,010 The music council bill, 2025-142. 1796 02:46:18,190 --> 02:46:20,810 We passed on second reading, advance to third reading and passed. 1797 02:46:21,450 --> 02:46:21,570 Second. 1798 02:46:22,590 --> 02:46:26,030 Motion's been made and probably segreded for the approval of council bill 2025. 1799 02:46:26,030 --> 02:46:31,510 5-1-4-2 on second read and advance the third reading in the past, please vote. 1800 02:46:32,930 --> 02:46:34,970 Motion carries nine in favor. 1801 02:46:35,490 --> 02:46:36,470 Unfinished business. 1802 02:46:36,690 --> 02:46:37,310 We have none. 1803 02:46:37,610 --> 02:46:38,110 New business. 1804 02:46:38,570 --> 02:46:41,370 We have four residents that would like to address council. 1805 02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:44,890 Katie Callahan. 1806 02:46:46,510 --> 02:46:47,630 Say the name again. 1807 02:46:48,250 --> 02:46:49,350 Katie Callahan. 1808 02:46:49,910 --> 02:46:52,730 Katie Callahan, you've been called to the podium. 1809 02:46:52,730 --> 02:46:54,150 If you're in a building, please approach. 1810 02:46:56,500 --> 02:46:57,420 Next presenter, please. 1811 02:46:57,420 --> 02:46:57,560 Thanks. 1812 02:46:57,700 --> 02:46:58,660 Taylor Stewart. 1813 02:47:00,340 --> 02:47:01,140 Taylor Stewart. 1814 02:47:01,300 --> 02:47:03,120 You've been called to the podium and council chambers. 1815 02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:04,700 Please approach the podium. 1816 02:47:06,220 --> 02:47:07,360 Next presenter, please. 1817 02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:09,220 Shawna Fisher. 1818 02:47:09,740 --> 02:47:10,000 Do 1819 02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:18,760 you need Mrs. Fisher? 1820 02:47:19,160 --> 02:47:20,440 Please state your name for the record. 1821 02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:21,300 You'll have five minutes. 1822 02:47:21,880 --> 02:47:22,320 Yes, ma'am. 1823 02:47:22,540 --> 02:47:23,120 Yes, sir. 1824 02:47:23,320 --> 02:47:24,220 My name is Shawna Fisher. 1825 02:47:24,640 --> 02:47:25,900 Good evening, councilor. 1826 02:47:25,900 --> 02:47:26,500 Good evening, Mayor. 1827 02:47:27,220 --> 02:47:32,200 I'm here today to explain to you guys what has happened in the city of Joplin. 1828 02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:33,300 I 1829 02:47:35,350 --> 02:47:37,410 can't see well, so I'm going to have to take close to my paper. 1830 02:47:38,030 --> 02:47:43,530 I'm a resident and a mother and a grandmother, and here tonight to speak, not just for myself, 1831 02:47:43,870 --> 02:47:50,550 but for other citizens who have, who deserve justice, fairness, and accountability in this city. 1832 02:47:51,230 --> 02:47:52,230 For several years, 1833 02:47:56,250 --> 02:48:04,670 several years, I have witnessed and been subject to systematic and coordinated 1834 02:48:04,670 --> 02:48:09,310 efforts by certain Joplin City officials, police officers, prosecutors, judges, and courts 1835 02:48:09,310 --> 02:48:15,230 deny me due process, target me with retaliation, and violate my constitutional rights, simply 1836 02:48:15,230 --> 02:48:20,330 because I refuse to be silent about wrongdoing. Here's what I like to experience. I had been 1837 02:48:20,330 --> 02:48:26,050 unlawfully arrested multiple times, most recently just last week, often for minor or pretractual 1838 02:48:26,590 --> 02:48:31,850 reasons, such as protesting peacefully or allegedly having an expired driver's license. 1839 02:48:31,850 --> 02:48:38,150 In these incidents, incidents, I was subjected to excessive force and humiliating restraint, 1840 02:48:38,450 --> 02:48:43,230 including being placed in a restraining chair, denied medical care for hours, and mocked 1841 02:48:43,230 --> 02:48:44,010 by jail staff. 1842 02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:51,950 I am aware of a 2016 incident where the City of Joplin's tax payed out $250,000 for a 1843 02:48:51,950 --> 02:48:54,230 similar incident as to what just happened to me. 1844 02:48:55,670 --> 02:49:00,250 I have been denied my right to access court records, denied the ability to file motions, 1845 02:49:00,250 --> 02:49:02,850 or to intervene in cases affecting my family 1846 02:49:02,850 --> 02:49:04,430 and barred from attending hearings, 1847 02:49:04,930 --> 02:49:07,090 can starting my own grandchildren and my property. 1848 02:49:07,790 --> 02:49:11,110 Court clerks and judges have refused to accept 1849 02:49:11,570 --> 02:49:11,890 the 1850 02:49:17,870 --> 02:49:18,530 other page. 1851 02:49:20,130 --> 02:49:23,330 You can use the other side motions 1852 02:49:23,330 --> 02:49:25,250 and other things filed in their courts. 1853 02:49:29,020 --> 02:49:31,260 Now, when I was arrested this last week, 1854 02:49:31,800 --> 02:49:34,320 I was taken into custody the protesting 1855 02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:36,780 and they made allegations that I had 1856 02:49:36,780 --> 02:49:38,720 They inspired drivers license, I wasn't driving. 1857 02:49:39,240 --> 02:49:40,180 I was drove there. 1858 02:49:40,840 --> 02:49:43,580 Joplin City prosecutors office and the code enforcement 1859 02:49:43,580 --> 02:49:45,500 have repeatedly issued ordinance violations, 1860 02:49:46,090 --> 02:49:47,940 not just to me, but to my landlords 1861 02:49:48,410 --> 02:49:51,140 with the threat that they must pursue an addiction against me 1862 02:49:51,140 --> 02:49:53,040 or face prosecution themselves. 1863 02:49:53,740 --> 02:49:55,340 After my landlords agreed to evict me 1864 02:49:55,340 --> 02:49:57,900 the city dropped their charges, that's a piece of process. 1865 02:49:58,860 --> 02:50:02,620 When my grandchildren were taken in to protect the custody, 1866 02:50:03,340 --> 02:50:04,940 it was based on false allegations 1867 02:50:04,940 --> 02:50:20,000 Despite my lifelong relationship with them, I was denied the chance to be placement option to even see or speak with them for three years. I have not had any contact with my grandchildren or be able to participate in their hearings or anything that's decided for their faith. 1868 02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:26,280 When I have spoken that file sunshine and way of request and protested I have been met with 1869 02:50:26,280 --> 02:50:31,480 recalculation more false charges and origin from the city officials who believe they are 1870 02:50:31,480 --> 02:50:32,280 above accountability. 1871 02:50:32,820 --> 02:50:37,680 I have been laughed at and told that nothing will happen and that they are protected because 1872 02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:38,340 of politics. 1873 02:50:39,020 --> 02:50:43,540 I have video and audio evidence of export taking indications between judges and court clerks 1874 02:50:43,540 --> 02:50:49,280 violating proper procedure officers using excessive force and city employees mocking my attempts 1875 02:50:49,280 --> 02:50:54,500 to suggest this. This issue has been addressed several times with the chief in person and 1876 02:50:54,500 --> 02:51:02,860 in many messages in e-mail since April. Many times through e-mailed a message, my concerns 1877 02:51:02,860 --> 02:51:07,540 have been completely ignored, which has directly led to this most recent incident, while I was 1878 02:51:07,540 --> 02:51:13,700 physically assaulted by an officer overseeing jail facilities. It's this kind of thing, it's 1879 02:51:13,700 --> 02:51:18,600 kind of thing can happen to us this and has broken no law and no violence, not to myself 1880 02:51:18,600 --> 02:51:21,180 or to anyone else, I can only imagine the things 1881 02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:23,480 of these people are capable of doing to someone 1882 02:51:23,480 --> 02:51:24,820 who has actually broken the law. 1883 02:51:27,160 --> 02:51:30,560 Okay, so basically in 2016 the city was sued 1884 02:51:30,560 --> 02:51:34,180 and paid out $250,000 for leaving a man in a chair, 1885 02:51:34,560 --> 02:51:36,840 the same restrained chair, they had me left in for hours, 1886 02:51:37,260 --> 02:51:38,720 for 20 hours causing his debt. 1887 02:51:40,480 --> 02:51:43,160 Now as they can do what they have done to me, 1888 02:51:43,620 --> 02:51:45,700 for calling the names, because that's all I did, 1889 02:51:45,820 --> 02:51:46,540 was called the names, 1890 02:51:47,080 --> 02:51:54,560 And not these were having me locked up for nothing or protesting against their corruption, but they can do that to me. They can do it to any 1891 02:51:54,560 --> 02:51:55,000 citizens. 1892 02:51:58,920 --> 02:52:08,140 And they're so thin skinned and they can't take a little bit of name call and maybe they need to go down to the flower shop or the local bakery and work instead of being carrying around badges and having that kind of power. 1893 02:52:08,420 --> 02:52:09,440 Seriously, that's really good. 1894 02:52:11,080 --> 02:52:14,320 Okay, so they have no business where wearing a badge. 1895 02:52:14,320 --> 02:52:21,920 We have no business in police officers and putting their violent hands on citizens who have no reason whatsoever other than they are 1896 02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:26,900 Tavable and have nobody stopping them and nobody holding them accountable. So 1897 02:52:30,260 --> 02:52:32,900 actually what happens to me? I was put into it. I was a 1898 02:52:32,900 --> 02:52:39,640 Prima- Shana. Shana hang on. Your time's up for just a moment. We're gonna see if any council members has any questions for you 1899 02:52:40,300 --> 02:52:40,780 Council. 1900 02:52:45,640 --> 02:52:46,980 I have a question. Are you done? 1901 02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:51,380 I just had one more statement. I would like her to 1902 02:52:52,360 --> 02:52:54,660 I would like to hear her for a statement. 1903 02:52:55,740 --> 02:52:57,860 Are you making a motion, Mr. Alza? 1904 02:53:00,510 --> 02:53:06,790 Motion is made in probably a second to give the presenter another 60 seconds to make her motion, make her point. 1905 02:53:07,410 --> 02:53:07,630 Yes, sir. 1906 02:53:07,730 --> 02:53:08,050 Please vote. 1907 02:53:08,670 --> 02:53:09,050 Yes, sir. 1908 02:53:09,450 --> 02:53:10,430 I was not playing motion. 1909 02:53:10,690 --> 02:53:12,990 Motion carries seven in favor with two opposed. 1910 02:53:13,330 --> 02:53:15,310 You have 60 seconds to finish up. 1911 02:53:15,730 --> 02:53:16,010 Yes, sir. 1912 02:53:16,570 --> 02:53:20,550 I would pre-state that I wasn't put into the chair. 1913 02:53:20,850 --> 02:53:23,250 I walked into the chair willingly and sat down in it. 1914 02:53:23,250 --> 02:53:24,510 Nobody put me anywhere. 1915 02:53:24,770 --> 02:53:26,310 I was not threatening anybody with any violence. 1916 02:53:27,050 --> 02:53:28,470 And while I was being strapped in, 1917 02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:31,170 I think what was done to me, my skin was ripped off of me, 1918 02:53:31,470 --> 02:53:33,010 my skin was pulling it so tight, 1919 02:53:33,570 --> 02:53:37,070 ripped my arms up above my, above this, 1920 02:53:37,330 --> 02:53:38,690 and kept me tied that way for hours. 1921 02:53:39,110 --> 02:53:42,330 While they were doing that, the lady in charge tilted my head 1922 02:53:42,330 --> 02:53:43,950 back, I didn't fight her, I let her do it. 1923 02:53:44,390 --> 02:53:46,430 It put both of her hands on the sides of my jaw 1924 02:53:46,430 --> 02:53:50,650 and applied as much pressure as she could to dislocate my jaw. 1925 02:53:50,650 --> 02:53:55,470 That's what this lady Jailor did to me with no violence whatsoever. 1926 02:53:55,790 --> 02:54:00,510 I've never threatened to police officer any violence, and that's all I have to say today, thank you. 1927 02:54:00,690 --> 02:54:01,370 Thank you, please. 1928 02:54:01,470 --> 02:54:06,530 I do have a copy of a letter of intent to file a civil rights lawsuit. 1929 02:54:06,830 --> 02:54:08,330 So I'll begin that to your court clerk. 1930 02:54:09,050 --> 02:54:10,250 All right, thank you, ma'am. 1931 02:54:12,340 --> 02:54:12,920 Thank you. 1932 02:54:17,160 --> 02:54:18,920 Mrs. Naush, next presenter, please. 1933 02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:20,320 Joe Shackles. 1934 02:54:31,620 --> 02:54:35,760 Evening, Mr. Shackles, I'll need you to state your name for the record and then you'll have five minutes. 1935 02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:43,140 Hello, my name is Josh Shackles, and I will try to keep my comments brief. I know it's been a long evening for everybody. 1936 02:54:43,600 --> 02:54:49,680 I did have a prepared statement. I'm going to throw that out the window, and I just kind of want to talk to you guys for just a second. 1937 02:54:50,200 --> 02:54:57,720 So I wear many hats in this community, and one of those hats is with our Convention and Visitors Bureau. 1938 02:54:57,720 --> 02:55:04,820 and I regularly ask the hoteliers what what problems are you facing in your 1939 02:55:04,820 --> 02:55:10,400 area and about a year ago we discussed that they may hire a private security 1940 02:55:10,400 --> 02:55:18,100 force to come and help remove trespassers from hotel properties. At our last 1941 02:55:18,100 --> 02:55:23,440 meeting I asked them the same question and they said Josh I don't know what you've 1942 02:55:23,440 --> 02:55:30,420 done, but you've solved the problem. Our hotels are safe. They're clean. Things are going well 1943 02:55:30,420 --> 02:55:40,280 for us. We're making money. So I feel like that's probably not me and probably a lot of other 1944 02:55:40,280 --> 02:55:47,020 people that are in this room that actually deserve that credit that they gave me. Another hat that I 1945 02:55:47,020 --> 02:55:53,740 aware is to care for our homeless population. And we did 1946 02:55:53,740 --> 02:55:58,020 recently have an issue where a lot of people did not really 1947 02:55:58,020 --> 02:56:02,220 understand what the camping ordinance means in practical 1948 02:56:02,220 --> 02:56:05,840 application. And we had a person that received 1949 02:56:05,840 --> 02:56:10,920 a citation. Of course, there were quite a few people as you may 1950 02:56:10,920 --> 02:56:15,960 have seen on social media that were upset by that. And I had 1951 02:56:15,960 --> 02:56:22,580 the opportunity to sit down with our chief of police and discuss that situation so that 1952 02:56:22,580 --> 02:56:28,500 I, as someone advocating for them, could actually understand what it was that that young woman 1953 02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:35,280 actually got in trouble for because I couldn't figure it out. She had only been on our bench 1954 02:56:35,280 --> 02:56:37,740 for a few moments to 1955 02:56:42,480 --> 02:56:50,040 help educate some of the volunteers and providers and people that were 1956 02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:56,540 interested in this situation, our mayor, Mr. Cortez, and our chief of police came and sat 1957 02:56:56,540 --> 02:57:03,320 down with many of those people. And I'm very thankful for the time that they spent to help explain 1958 02:57:03,320 --> 02:57:11,520 that. And I feel like I understand that ordinance a little better. But many of the people that 1959 02:57:11,520 --> 02:57:19,720 that ordinance might affect the most may not understand it very well. And so one of the things that 1960 02:57:19,720 --> 02:57:27,700 that I would like to see this council consider is to add signage near those benches that explains 1961 02:57:27,700 --> 02:57:35,580 the ordinance. That way, if somebody is to violate that ordinance, they know they're 1962 02:57:35,580 --> 02:57:41,700 about to violate an ordinance. It's not a surprise to them. Another thing that I would like 1963 02:57:41,700 --> 02:57:49,360 to see this council consider is perhaps open up the parking lot just across the street from 1964 02:57:49,360 --> 02:57:55,220 the police station as a safe to park location for people that are sleeping in their cars. 1965 02:57:55,980 --> 02:58:02,600 This would allow those people a safe place to be. It would allow public safety to keep an eye 1966 02:58:02,600 --> 02:58:08,520 on them to make sure that they are safe in our community. And it would allow providers a place 1967 02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:19,990 that we could know that we may encounter those people. Another potential solution that would 1968 02:58:19,990 --> 02:58:28,090 not cost a lot of money would be to find a location where we can add lockers to our 1969 02:58:28,090 --> 02:58:34,310 downtown perhaps even at our police station where officers can keep an eye on people's 1970 02:58:34,310 --> 02:58:38,890 public or personal belongings if they have nowhere else to keep them. 1971 02:58:40,090 --> 02:58:44,510 And then those belongings are not with them as they travel around our town. 1972 02:58:44,510 --> 02:58:56,830 And I think all of these things would mitigate some of the charges that people are seeing and help everybody live together in a little bit better harmony. 1973 02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:58,890 Thank you guys so much for your time. 1974 02:58:59,390 --> 02:59:01,790 I would answer any questions that anyone may have. 1975 02:59:02,870 --> 02:59:04,390 Thank you, Mr. Shackles. 1976 02:59:05,350 --> 02:59:05,970 Mr. Coppel. 1977 02:59:07,730 --> 02:59:11,770 Okay, so a couple of questions that I'm just going to play devil's advocate here for a minute. 1978 02:59:12,350 --> 02:59:20,450 So, we use a city lot and make it a safe space for people to stay in their cars and either 1979 02:59:20,450 --> 02:59:26,050 A, something happens to their vehicle or something happens to that person on that lot. 1980 02:59:28,450 --> 02:59:33,090 I could be wrong but I would think that would open the city up for some liability to that. 1981 02:59:34,570 --> 02:59:39,770 And you mentioned a couple of times that having it by the police station, you know, police 1982 02:59:39,770 --> 02:59:58,650 Police officers could keep an eye on things, but our police officers are out on the go, especially in the evenings there's not police officers assigned to the station because they're out patrolling and doing other things. 1983 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:28,460 What happened to be in there for paperwork or they may happen to be processing a, you know, somebody to bring into the jail, but it's not a staffed location. So I don't know that that would have the desired effect that you're looking for. I personally feel like I would like to see a public restroom downtown, which could house, you know, lockers who, you know, 1984 03:00:28,460 --> 03:00:36,260 You know, like you're talking about, you know, maybe like bus station ones that are, you know, pay as you go, something to that effect. 1985 03:00:36,660 --> 03:00:51,140 So I'm not in disagreement with the concept, it's, you know, where, you know, where we can put those things or put those locations or put those amenities and a funding source for doing those. 1986 03:00:51,140 --> 03:00:59,900 Absolutely excellent questions and and I don't have all the right answers but as you guys said earlier we have to start somewhere. 1987 03:01:00,060 --> 03:01:17,320 And and hopefully these give you some ideas that we can dream about and come back to and maybe find some inexpensive ways to make life a little bit easier for the most vulnerable in our community. 1988 03:01:17,320 --> 03:01:27,720 and for business owners that then no longer have considerable amount of property left on their doorsteps. 1989 03:01:28,380 --> 03:01:30,400 And just good for everybody. 1990 03:01:32,300 --> 03:01:37,240 Mr. Bard, thank you, thank you, Josh, for coming and speaking tonight. 1991 03:01:38,080 --> 03:01:45,960 I would like to publicly or see if we could explore the idea of putting up some no-camping warning signs around certain areas. 1992 03:01:47,540 --> 03:01:58,440 If anything, it might give the idea that we're not, it's for everybody, the ordinances for everybody and it's on display for everyone to see. 1993 03:02:03,550 --> 03:02:12,350 I think we've struggled with that ordinance a little bit this year because while it is an ordinance and there's no excuse for ignorance of the law, 1994 03:02:12,350 --> 03:02:20,850 Many of the people that it most often affects don't have the ability to watch the news or 1995 03:02:20,850 --> 03:02:24,470 a phone to look up what the ordinances might be. 1996 03:02:24,770 --> 03:02:29,730 And when the encounter of police officer, they're left going, what did I do? 1997 03:02:31,730 --> 03:02:35,230 So hopefully that might help mitigate some of that problem. 1998 03:02:36,410 --> 03:02:37,350 Mr. Jackson. 1999 03:02:38,410 --> 03:02:54,370 Mr. Shackle, I do want to tell you thank you for your approach to the subject and trying to be more intentional with conversations and solutions and try to mitigate some of the emotion that came into this last week. 2000 03:02:55,510 --> 03:03:04,690 I appreciate your efforts to try to calm some of the personalities that we're doing things that could have been essentially been harmful to some of our police department officers. 2001 03:03:07,350 --> 03:03:09,650 I kind of, you know, you and I talked about this a little bit. 2002 03:03:09,750 --> 03:03:12,930 I've definitely shared some of your comments and ideas with the City Manager. 2003 03:03:14,570 --> 03:03:19,150 But I really kind of thought a little bit about the people didn't know part. 2004 03:03:19,710 --> 03:03:23,590 And I'm not saying this to put you on the spot in any way. 2005 03:03:25,790 --> 03:03:30,290 At the same time we enacted this ordinance, we enacted an ordinance regarding, you know, the shopping carts. 2006 03:03:31,670 --> 03:03:36,330 that came across a lot of clear, and we didn't see shopping carts all over town like we used to. 2007 03:03:37,850 --> 03:03:50,040 So I don't know if it's people didn't take it seriously, people didn't think well what are they going to do because they got nowhere else to go, but I think we did get the message out. 2008 03:03:50,140 --> 03:03:59,860 I just think that the warning probably was not heated, and I do know there was conversations between council members and city staff like hey, why is this ordinance not being enforced? 2009 03:03:59,860 --> 03:04:08,860 First, and there was a very prolonged approach of them just giving warnings and not really enacting the penalties that came with it. 2010 03:04:09,380 --> 03:04:14,320 So I think it might have just been a lack of people taking a serious, and I could be wrong. 2011 03:04:14,680 --> 03:04:22,540 But we enacted two things at the same time, and one seemed to resonate in the other one, now it's kind of a big deal. 2012 03:04:22,540 --> 03:04:32,160 I think it was heard loud and clear in the parks, but many people did not maybe understand that it applied to all city property. 2013 03:04:32,940 --> 03:04:33,020 Okay. 2014 03:04:33,640 --> 03:04:34,920 That's my thought. 2015 03:04:35,140 --> 03:04:36,140 It could be, and I appreciate that. 2016 03:04:37,040 --> 03:04:38,120 Mr. Carpley. 2017 03:04:38,940 --> 03:04:50,020 Mr. Shackles, and I know not all houseless individuals end up at the shelters, but I don't know if I want a whole bunch of signs downtown. 2018 03:04:50,020 --> 03:04:57,580 down, but do you think we could help get the word out by either talking with the shelters 2019 03:04:57,580 --> 03:05:02,620 and seeing if we could post some informational signs there or have, you know, handouts 2020 03:05:02,620 --> 03:05:14,320 that they could help distribute and maybe the clinics and the economic security and wherever 2021 03:05:14,320 --> 03:05:20,200 Whatever else that the coalition thinks might help to get that information out. 2022 03:05:20,540 --> 03:05:27,760 I do believe that many of the providers are going to try to enhance our education efforts for people. 2023 03:05:28,460 --> 03:05:34,880 Our chief of police has agreed to help with some PSAs that we will show during meal times as well. 2024 03:05:35,440 --> 03:05:39,280 To help, make sure that people understand what that ordinance is. 2025 03:05:40,220 --> 03:05:41,220 Okay, fantastic, thank you. 2026 03:05:41,220 --> 03:05:42,400 Thank you sir. 2027 03:05:43,540 --> 03:05:44,160 Anyone else? 2028 03:05:44,860 --> 03:05:51,360 Josh, I'll just finish by, first of all, thanking you for the efforts that you make in our community. 2029 03:05:51,960 --> 03:05:59,180 You do a lot of things uncompensated and unrecognized in our community. 2030 03:05:59,420 --> 03:06:00,980 And that doesn't go unnoticed. 2031 03:06:02,040 --> 03:06:03,160 Definitely appreciate. 2032 03:06:03,560 --> 03:06:07,400 I will definitely stand on what Mr. Jackson said. 2033 03:06:07,400 --> 03:06:12,580 and we appreciate your approach to this conversation this evening. 2034 03:06:13,300 --> 03:06:18,200 It's not going to do anybody any good to get to that podium and scream at us. 2035 03:06:18,900 --> 03:06:25,100 And like I told you yesterday, it's not going to be us that solves the problem either. 2036 03:06:25,400 --> 03:06:28,280 It's going to be all of us that solves the problem. 2037 03:06:28,280 --> 03:06:33,560 It's going to take every single person in our community to take a little bit of responsibility 2038 03:06:33,560 --> 03:06:39,800 for our unhoused community and put forth any effort that we can to make life better for them. 2039 03:06:40,320 --> 03:06:47,140 But I will also stand on what I've said previously that it's not on just this body up here. 2040 03:06:47,240 --> 03:06:48,740 It's not on the city administration. 2041 03:06:49,260 --> 03:06:50,280 It's not on the community. 2042 03:06:50,620 --> 03:06:56,460 It is on that unhoused individual as well to want to seek the help that they need to get. 2043 03:06:57,120 --> 03:07:01,900 And I think this community over the last several years has really stepped its game up. 2044 03:07:02,380 --> 03:07:08,780 And that resonated well yesterday, that we've stepped our game up a lot over the last couple of years. 2045 03:07:08,960 --> 03:07:12,700 We've got a lot of entities together. We've got them all in the same room. 2046 03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:20,840 We've got a lot of people talking the same language. And we've got providers willing to step up and handle situations that maybe five years ago 2047 03:07:20,840 --> 03:07:26,760 we weren't necessarily all on the same page. So we've done a lot and we have more things coming down the pike. 2048 03:07:26,760 --> 03:07:52,560 I think we had Vita Nova Village here earlier this evening, what they're doing and what they're going to bring to this community is going to be a tremendous help to a lot of people in getting them where they need to be to get back on their feet and become a productive members of society, so I encourage you to keep up the good work that you are doing and I appreciate you coming to this body and offering reasonable recommendations and things that we could tangibly put our hands around and do. 2049 03:07:53,220 --> 03:07:55,040 Please keep doing what you're doing for community. 2050 03:07:55,180 --> 03:07:57,660 Every community needs a Josh shackles in it. 2051 03:07:57,820 --> 03:07:59,440 Thank you so much for your kind words. 2052 03:07:59,800 --> 03:08:07,140 If anybody out there that is listening to this council meeting would like to be recognized as the next Charles Shiverdecker, please reach out to me. 2053 03:08:07,620 --> 03:08:09,860 I have several opportunities for you. 2054 03:08:10,240 --> 03:08:10,920 All right, thank you. 2055 03:08:10,920 --> 03:08:11,420 Thank you Josh. 2056 03:08:11,620 --> 03:08:12,040 Have a good night. 2057 03:08:13,300 --> 03:08:14,820 Madam Clerk, last item, please. 2058 03:08:15,360 --> 03:08:16,460 Won't you go into close- 2059 03:08:16,460 --> 03:08:16,980 Mr. Mayor. 2060 03:08:18,930 --> 03:08:19,730 Excuse me. 2061 03:08:20,030 --> 03:08:20,610 Mr. Comple. 2062 03:08:20,750 --> 03:08:21,590 I have a new business item. 2063 03:08:21,690 --> 03:08:23,010 All right, Mr. Comple has new business. 2064 03:08:25,870 --> 03:08:35,110 First off, as I introduced this, I would like to personally apologize to our dispatch staff. 2065 03:08:36,170 --> 03:08:41,510 I was gone when the presentation was made about the issues that we're having with dispatch. 2066 03:08:42,630 --> 03:08:50,090 And it took me about three weeks to get up to speed and review the material because we're 2067 03:08:50,090 --> 03:08:52,610 in the middle of budget recommendations. 2068 03:08:53,310 --> 03:09:02,710 One of the most major glaring items from that that I saw was out of a department of 20 people. 2069 03:09:03,350 --> 03:09:06,710 We were seven people short, that's over a third. 2070 03:09:07,690 --> 03:09:13,630 Since that presentation we've had three more people that were in training leave, so that 2071 03:09:13,630 --> 03:09:14,630 puts us at 10 short. 2072 03:09:15,490 --> 03:09:20,190 So that's out of a group of 20 people, so that's approximately half. 2073 03:09:20,190 --> 03:09:38,590 And I think that is a critical juncture, also looking at the information that was provided, the normal work schedule for those individuals is 5-12 a week. 2074 03:09:39,210 --> 03:09:46,710 So 60 hours a week, what they're working in an incredibly stressful job, very nerve-wracking job. 2075 03:09:48,050 --> 03:09:55,110 Most of them are working 612s because of the shortages and just rumor but that we had 2076 03:09:55,110 --> 03:09:58,870 one individual do approximately 20 consecutive 12-hour shifts. 2077 03:09:59,750 --> 03:10:02,710 None of those statistics are tenable. 2078 03:10:03,510 --> 03:10:09,830 That doesn't include burning out people and them just leaving that doesn't include anybody 2079 03:10:09,830 --> 03:10:18,850 getting sick and off on FMLA, that is it include anybody that happens to be part of our military getting deployed for 30 days. 2080 03:10:20,110 --> 03:10:29,550 I do not think our system can handle that with the other aid of yours agreement. 2081 03:10:30,470 --> 03:10:38,330 I would like to direct the city manager to put together a work group to look at the problem in a very, 2082 03:10:38,330 --> 03:10:56,910 We very expedited fashion and bring us back some possible solutions and some possible ways on how we can address this and move forward with this. 2083 03:11:00,410 --> 03:11:01,290 Discussion, council? 2084 03:11:04,610 --> 03:11:16,130 Well, for expedited I think that, and maybe as I understand it, the city manager has been working on some of the issues that I'd like to see some information as well, so, to thumbs up for me, we can get that. 2085 03:11:18,810 --> 03:11:19,330 Mr. Jackson. 2086 03:11:20,050 --> 03:11:28,870 Yeah, I mean, I didn't take it as though it was finalized and it seemed like HR was going to be going back and trying to find, you know, some other things to possibly do. 2087 03:11:28,870 --> 03:11:37,810 If I'm wrong, I mean, our city manager could speak up, but I didn't feel like it was just kind of left as what do we do? 2088 03:11:38,410 --> 03:11:44,090 I think there is a proactive approach of, you know, trying to figure out some solutions and chart is given. 2089 03:11:44,610 --> 03:11:52,390 Sir, the number one listed item on solutions was to create a staff for a not emergency call taker position. 2090 03:11:52,990 --> 03:11:57,290 So we're going to increase staffing by creating another position that we can't staff. 2091 03:11:57,290 --> 03:12:00,710 The second one was hiring part-time positions. 2092 03:12:01,170 --> 03:12:04,570 My conversation with Mr. Edwards, I don't have an issue with that. 2093 03:12:05,270 --> 03:12:10,410 I've advocated for part-time positions, for multiple jobs. 2094 03:12:10,850 --> 03:12:16,150 One of the other ones was going to our medical facilities and trying to get, 2095 03:12:16,830 --> 03:12:24,990 have them put it out but trying to get nurses or EMTs or firefighters or police officers to come do this job. 2096 03:12:24,990 --> 03:12:29,950 when a lot of those positions already pay more than what this pays, 2097 03:12:32,170 --> 03:12:35,310 and adding into a stressful situation. 2098 03:12:35,950 --> 03:12:40,970 Another thing that was on that list was putting together a training program 2099 03:12:40,970 --> 03:12:45,270 through Franklin Tech or some of our other trade schools to do that. 2100 03:12:45,890 --> 03:12:48,210 I think that is a great alternative, 2101 03:12:48,690 --> 03:12:51,930 but the problem with that is you have to write the curriculum, 2102 03:12:52,290 --> 03:12:54,090 you have to get it approved through the school district, 2103 03:12:54,090 --> 03:12:55,470 you have to put it in place. 2104 03:12:56,490 --> 03:13:02,150 So that's on the long-term fix items of one to two years out, if not more. 2105 03:13:03,590 --> 03:13:10,850 But I don't think our dispatch will stand for one to two years while we wait for that to happen. 2106 03:13:11,210 --> 03:13:17,130 So that's why I'm asking for some more short-term, expedited 2107 03:13:19,310 --> 03:13:21,750 research or options to be presented to us. 2108 03:13:21,750 --> 03:13:22,550 Yeah, 2109 03:13:28,290 --> 03:13:28,670 thank you, Mayor. 2110 03:13:29,210 --> 03:13:37,050 I'm happy to bring back some more expedited options I have met with our public safety 2111 03:13:37,050 --> 03:13:41,930 chiefs, Leslie and Michelle, we did some brainstorming today. 2112 03:13:42,670 --> 03:13:49,110 I could bring back to this group kind of a recap of our brainstorming ideas and see where 2113 03:13:49,110 --> 03:13:49,670 that goes. 2114 03:13:50,190 --> 03:13:54,010 So I'd be happy to work on this mayor if that's the council's direction. 2115 03:13:57,950 --> 03:14:01,710 Thank you, if it could also kind of start to work on the long term as well. 2116 03:14:02,710 --> 03:14:07,250 I mean, the expedited is great, but we still need a long term solution for even the short-term fix. 2117 03:14:08,790 --> 03:14:10,170 Mayor, if I might, yes, sir. 2118 03:14:10,430 --> 03:14:12,090 Mr. Barter, I appreciate you bringing that up. 2119 03:14:12,190 --> 03:14:22,410 I want to make it clear, our long-term solution for me is improving our pay, improving our staffing. 2120 03:14:23,430 --> 03:14:28,750 And the next big opportunity to address that issue is in August. 2121 03:14:29,310 --> 03:14:34,570 I'm not saying there can't be other options along the way, but for 2122 03:14:34,570 --> 03:14:39,050 the big significant substantial changes that will be in August. 2123 03:14:39,490 --> 03:14:43,350 But I want a well functioning dispatch. 2124 03:14:43,790 --> 03:14:48,510 I know the chiefs spoke up for it pretty strongly today and 2125 03:14:48,510 --> 03:14:52,470 And we'll bring back some options that we think might work from now until then. 2126 03:14:53,740 --> 03:14:54,470 Perfect, thank you, Mr. 2127 03:14:58,000 --> 03:14:58,540 Ditar. 2128 03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:29,940 I just want to kind of report back to you all that the mayor and I had went last week, last Thursday, and participated in the one job on poverty simulation. And I think that for me it was a surprise. I couldn't believe how stressed that I got during that time. I thought I could, I thought I'd deal a little bit better, but one job on did an economic security and all the other entities that are a part of that, did a great job of really, I think, distressing 2129 03:15:29,940 --> 03:15:41,680 I've seen everybody out making people realize what it's like for some of our citizens to live on the threshold of you know in poverty, but on the threshold of becoming unhoused and how scary and how fast it can happen. 2130 03:15:42,340 --> 03:15:53,740 And so I wanted to thank them publicly to putting that on making me sweat a little bit, but the mayor and I participated in that I would recommend it to anybody that hasn't done it to take part in that. 2131 03:15:53,740 --> 03:15:57,440 And I think you'll see it from a different perspective, right? 2132 03:15:57,620 --> 03:16:01,800 To be in and somebody else's shoes for just an hour, even, was very powerful. 2133 03:16:02,340 --> 03:16:06,700 And anybody listening, anybody here on this council, I would recommend going through it so 2134 03:16:06,700 --> 03:16:13,140 that you can see the perspective from somebody else's, or see the point of view from somebody else's perspective. 2135 03:16:13,400 --> 03:16:15,420 So thank you, as it. 2136 03:16:16,820 --> 03:16:42,800 I'll finish that off by saying, I did learn a few things at that poverty simulation, and I think the biggest thing that hit home for me was during the simulation, you had to go to different places to get services that you needed, you had to go pay your range, you had to go pay your utilities, you had to go to the bank and cash your check. 2137 03:16:42,800 --> 03:16:46,460 like you had to go to economic security and receive services. 2138 03:16:47,580 --> 03:16:50,340 And when things got really tough, you needed to go to the pawn shop and 2139 03:16:50,340 --> 03:16:52,320 pawn some things so you could afford to eat. 2140 03:16:53,180 --> 03:17:03,280 And I know they set it up this way, but it was shocking to me how rude the people giving those services were to the people that were down on their luck. 2141 03:17:04,400 --> 03:17:05,800 They were downright rude. 2142 03:17:06,360 --> 03:17:12,400 And I would hope that any service provider that's in our community listening to this right now. 2143 03:17:12,400 --> 03:17:27,980 would know that it is frustrating, and it's overwhelming to deal with some of the problems that we have in our community, but there's never an excuse, never an excuse to be rude to another human being. 2144 03:17:30,230 --> 03:17:31,870 Madam Clerk, last item, please. 2145 03:17:32,530 --> 03:17:51,550 Both to go into closed session, which shall pertain to hiring, firing, disciplining, or promotion of an employee or particular employees of a governmental body, involving personal information to set forth in Section 610-021-Subsection 3 of the right statutes of Missouri as amended 2020, more specifically for the purpose of evaluating certain council employees. 2146 03:17:51,870 --> 03:17:57,250 This meeting record and vote to be close to the extent provided by law. The City Council shall adjourn at the end of the session. 2147 03:17:59,250 --> 03:18:00,110 Mr. D. Tarr. 2148 03:18:00,330 --> 03:18:03,350 I will make a motion to go into closed sessions for all the things the city clerk said. 2149 03:18:03,590 --> 03:18:03,850 Second. 2150 03:18:04,210 --> 03:18:04,510 Second. 2151 03:18:05,350 --> 03:18:08,370 Motion is made in probably a second to adjourn the closed session, please vote. 2152 03:18:09,230 --> 03:18:11,570 Motion carries nine in favor, we are adjourned.