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All right. Good evening. No, I'll cancel members are here tonight. Let's move on to 3.0 minutes of previous meeting. February 4, 2019, regular session.

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Motion approved the minutes.

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I have a motion to have a second.

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I'm sorry.

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All right.

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I have a motion from Terry.

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The second from Bill.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed.

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Motion carried.

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Aye.

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All right.

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Let's move on to be February 4th, 2019 work session.

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I have a motion.

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I'll do a providence.

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And do I have a second?

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Also again, I have a motion from Robert and a second from Amanda, all those in favor say I, I oppose motion carried.

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Let's move to 4.0 to set the agenda. Good evening, Tom.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. We have one addition that was added on our consent agenda.

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It is application for one day consumption.

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liquor license for St. John's living event that they just, we just got an application

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like lately last week and we had that tonight and I didn't think we didn't feel

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that it would be a controversial issue so we added to the consent agenda.

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Do you think St. John's liquor?

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Yeah, it's a one day liquor consumption.

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I'm sure you find it in the event that they have.

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Are you doing a promotion to set the agenda anymore?

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And they just call it me.

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I'll make a motion, is it the agenda with the addition of our consent agenda item E, one big consumption liquor waste and the same drugs?

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I'll second it.

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I have a motion from Terry and a second from Robert, any discussion?

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All those in favor say aye?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carried.

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Let's move on now to five point all public comment.

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First is a Stephen Jensen.

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And you'll update on community and record programs in this search.

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Good evening.

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Good evening everybody.

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First off, I need you for having me here.

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It's great to finally be here and see everybody.

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I know that's some of you.

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So again, thank you for a lobby to come here and kind of talk about

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my position here at 3 a.m.

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and recreation.

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So as you guys have known, we have gone through quite a bit of

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in the last seven months or so, by self being very new to your couple of ten plus years of programming, which brings pretty many people.

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We have a new added system, new to the position, and we've been working in these years throughout Jamie, which is great for us enough to have at our front desk there to serve.

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We have facilities assistance, and Laura Shees now doing all of our facility rentals, including parks.

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I believe that's everything.

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We have updated our facilities policy as well.

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Before I got here, we're going to actually work in the process right now.

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We're going to do things to add to our policy that we're going to be like.

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And then we're going to hang there.

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So we're getting right to the numbers.

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This has been a very, very exciting time for me to come.

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Just kind of look at the numbers and begin to what's happened in the past.

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This is a very, very healthy community.

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And we just serve this.

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And as you can see, the numbers keep climbing in all aspects from the worships.

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Especially, you know, the families, annual memberships, our student annual memberships are not quite a bit with an after school type program.

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And one thing to know is the family and packages, those are kind of the time.

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So if it's a family report, it actually comes as a month.

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We actually have over 4,000 members on the part of the research.

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Really awesome, given the population of our community,

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we're also great in people from outside.

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I know that's the really, really bold days, a couple weeks ago, we had, we stayed open,

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and we had people over 200 people a day, told them about it, I'm off.

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So we know this is a great place and people are using it.

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But into the circuit budget, this is just the circuit only.

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One thing to note is the 2000s, this is fiscal year,

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school year, school year 2017, which is July 1st, 2017 through 2018.

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One thing I know is, you

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know, most of the salary benefits, we are starting to get into wear and tear of exercise equipment.

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It's been, I think, for four plus years and we're talking to the point first.

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Some repairs need to be made.

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I've made a few repairs on somebody who put men and tribunals.

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They're going to eventually start to wear down and so I'm just painting that coming up.

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It's been a big thank for us.

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And, you know, I'm looking at purchasing a little bit more from it to expand the opportunities

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that are happening.

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As far as like groups, classes, we're going to inventory.

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You're possibly going to have to spend a class happening.

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It's a really open enough to do more options happening.

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Our youth recreation numbers, I have split this up into two

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ampers and that I will split more than that in the next page, but it is

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basically the reason why I had done it is because since I've got here there's

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been different ways of tracking numbers of sport and recreation and actually

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our youth recreation and adult recreation use enrichment and adult

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track all the numbers that we're happening. So this is how we're able to do it and to see

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that we've had over 2,500 people, you know, young kids involved in our programming and

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self scanning. Me personally coming from Virksville, which is a lot higher population, but also

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a different demographic. It was hard to get as many kids involved in our programming.

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As you can see, you know, the city contribution is a huge part of our program.

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And this is financial starting from July of 1st of 2018 to January 30th of 19th.

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Since I've started in October, I've gone back just through the fiscal year,

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it's coded. So youth records now quoted, or is tracks separately from adult records, as well

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as youth enrichment and adult enrichment. This way I can track no matter, and I can actually

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see the ups and downs of where things are working, where the network came in as opposed

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to one big, kind of hot in your statement. Just one of the things that I like to do with

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understand how well it goes.

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One thing, supplies equipment in this, we had a lot of supplies

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per equipment for the bulk of this past year that we're either purchased or replacing it

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with equipment that was out of date. Every year we have descended from the bottom of us to be

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so let me just very fast come on.

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By talking about the exercise equipment, maintenance group placement, some of the

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south side of the

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to protect a little big glass,

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we don't think it is.

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We are currently having changes going up over some of the speakers that are missing,

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seeing some of them have broken loose with balls in them,

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and those are, you know, 15, 12 speakers that are not something I don't want all in on everybody.

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So for safety reasons, we have had changes built that will be come from the ceiling to protect those.

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Just upkeep, we're in terms of facility, and every place in the age you've written,

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we've been, and we've been to baseball after I'm going to find more and more,

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but then that probably needs to be updated.

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But the old we went into this, you know, this next year,

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increased facility for fitness opportunities.

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I have, probably, called fitness on a man, and we're going to be looking at

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three of these classes that's going to be in a spark area, it's hard to find

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enough instructors that are trained and certified in multiple areas, where this is

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something that you can actually street them on that multi-purpose room

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director, and this way we can offer this thing to class, we can hire a real training.

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A lot of different options that we've actually been looking for in blood out from our members

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that we've got a Facebook page actually this morning.

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So, this way, this has an office for us to have four or three

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in terms of which it takes the process that we can invest our time in.

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Continuing to increase the memberships, I would love to see this

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continuing to increase, although I know the population, and I'm sure we're

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going to have a plateau at some point, but increasing to outside communities as well,

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you know, those cold days we have people from about plant

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their families because we're the ones who don't know that so I'm really highly

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involved in having to try to do what I'm just as well.

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And then I expand on recreation opportunities for you and adult.

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I'd like to see more adults opportunities going on.

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So slowly trying to find out what people want to do

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and provide those opportunities for everybody to do.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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You have comfortable chair?

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I have a couple of questions.

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Welcome.

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This is a great report.

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Thank you.

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I did have a couple of questions.

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I love the idea of the online classes.

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By the way, I think that's more classes.

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You can offer that.

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That's incredible.

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That's a much cost effective way of doing it.

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I have a question in the financial side of it.

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In the very beginning, you talked about it.

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I believe it was like $67,000 in that at the end.

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You kind of want to, is that do you put some aside for future use or do you have any say and how much of that you get to keep in a fund or does it go back into the school budget?

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Into the great pot of the school or I guess we want to know how that.

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No, actually communication has a separate pot.

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I'll tell you the actual difference.

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And so, my role was, which would be probably to keep some of it,

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besides the possible facility maintenance that we're going to have

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come up, different equipment costs that are going to come up with you.

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Where terrible access has to go with that we have.

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But my ideal is to, whatever money that we bring in is to dump it back into

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to read

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as that's where the lead is and why not.

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Because that's what I would hope from here.

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I want to see all that state there and also to plan for a future,

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because eventually you're going to need to floor.

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And that's more than one year's budget can handle.

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We have plans with our facility in the many of the policy curve facility.

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We've actually researched quite a bit of this year.

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This was something that we used to practice this last year.

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Okay, and I like the idea of the curtain,

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by the way, I was at a C-Squad basketball game there.

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It was the first time I've ever seen a girl

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miss a ball at a basketball game because of Sun.

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It completely went right over her head,

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don't, because the Sun's going right down through there.

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So, okay, thank you.

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I mean, I have a couple of questions.

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One was looking at the last couple of years

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in her membership numbers.

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What do you think it jumped so much in 2017 to 2018?

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I think it's a different thing here, I don't know.

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I don't know that. I can answer that. I don't know. It's just more, you know, I don't know, I don't know.

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What about child care options?

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So we had child care options, sorry that each group to our early child education,

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we do offer one class to go with class that we have for child care.

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on the side, the one thing is space can be a, you know, a problem with only that one multi-purpose room,

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where the space is smaller, you know, the question is, what do you have to have to talk to anyone outside?

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It's an idea that I've had to, that I'm not going to explore and try to find a way to offer more child care for the evening time,

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There are people getting to go and work out.

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You can see me playing.

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Joint powers proposed that a couple of years ago.

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And they tried it.

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And they looked for volunteers.

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And that didn't really work out.

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We didn't go out of volunteers.

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So asking people to volunteer to watch kids for people that were going to work out.

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Did not pan out.

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It just didn't get enough steam to work out.

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I think the one thing that works during the yoga's happens is it's a 3, 4, 5, and go in.

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And so we have two services that run as step on at the time, plus Jamie still there, so it's a bit of a challenge.

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Jeff?

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Um, I had five questions and three of them already asked.

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Um, thank you.

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Yeah.

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One thing that didn't cut my, I was, I mean, the membership basically doubled in one year, and that just,

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that's unheard of. So I don't understand if it's maybe an accounting from old stuff to new stuff.

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I don't know, obviously, you don't either. I mean, it definitely got my attention.

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I saw that too, and I don't know how much number I can't accurately...

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This isn't going to be used in how members were put in, because I wouldn't have to do what I was done in the past.

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Or if these numbers are wrong, I mean, we don't know, but it's just jumped out of me as being really odd.

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One thing I do see missing off of the revenue side for the circus, you have memberships and you have city contribution,

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but I don't see rentals.

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What's there any rental revenue?

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We do have some rental revenue, and it's now all being tracked for our business portion.

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We're going to invite you to post for just a silly part.

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I can pull out a separate to welcome all of that purpose room was rented for the gender rented for.

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I didn't mean that.

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Because once part time we were told when this thing was built that there are going to be thousands

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and tens of thousands of dollars of revenue from rentals.

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And so when I didn't see any rentals, I was curious about that.

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I can tell you that since I've been here, we have doubled our rentals from the previous year.

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The amount or the dollars.

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So we had close to $10,000 that even a year ago.

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And since I've been here, we're over 20,000.

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And that's due to the implementation policy.

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I'd like to see that as a line at maybe next time

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if you could do so.

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And then what are the other things I was looking

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here under your youth, the wreck?

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What would $21,000 were the consulting buy?

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Coaches, YNCA, Cance, any sports case that we offer during the summer is all of these.

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Okay, so it's just the way it's.

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Okay, it's in structure, isn't

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it?

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Okay, but isn't that offset by the fees of the charged for those classes?

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Yes.

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And I would say since I started, it's a change a lot of it.

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I had a question for Tom, so I know in years past, when we were trying to get numbers

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to line up, you and me, it's probably where we

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were saying that, you know, you were provided

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that enough sufficient detail to understand what was going on with the numbers essentially.

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Are you getting that now or is that something you need to continue to work on?

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because we've been asking for it for two years

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and at some point of time, I have a hard time throwing fish.

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No,

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no, I feel this is what we were looking for. Is that what the council feels?

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Outside of the revenue for the rental.

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I mean, yeah, because that was always a listing, that was always the promise that was made,

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you know, when this thing was accepted and I want to make sure that that number is reflected

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because we were told that that was going to pay for itself and all kinds of things we were told

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and I just would like to see it if it's true false or not.

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But it is that our joint ours agreement that controls the wording of the foreign issue and that type of stuff.

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Yeah, I want to say that foreign might have been outside of that.

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But we haven't, before Steve and Tickle were me and Nate were talking about how we would

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finance any equipment, what we would do with how much the revenues are, what they're

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charging and how much the city is contributing.

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And we've yet to meet on that.

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All things being equal, I mean, this is a huge improvement over prior years.

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So I don't know these numbers are right. No, I'm going to take you for that. You're worth it. They are you know I'm just saying

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But it's it's amazing. So I

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Was they at you conference for these years that I do know that the current year those numbers are at

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Something to to remind you that we always discussed membership fees and we don't want to

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As drawing powers, create the fees so large that families can't use it, and so you gotta remember how we offset it.

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But even jumping from the numbers from 2016-2017-2018, you know, we haven't creased the fees for the membership.

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Not a lot, but enough for each subset. So we do talk about that.

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We do talk about their equipment and where it's going to be spent and it's not someone

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just saying, I'm going to buy all this equipment.

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It's a lot of consideration and talking about them for it.

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I guess I, hmm, how I view all out of this from the beginning and now is, I see the circus

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is not necessarily a money maker and I'm not looking for you to make money.

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I'm looking.

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That's why I keep in membership down so that it provides an amenity and a service for

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that everybody in the community can use.

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That's why visually.

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And the money you do me make, obviously I prefer being like me, is I want every penny back into it.

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I don't want, I'm not asking for it back to the city because I wanted to go back into the,

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sort to make it a better thing for everybody.

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So, that's what that's my view on.

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I'd ready to get to the cashboying.

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You got the numbers last year because last year,

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with $10,000 with our 50 that they were showing us,

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deposit column, which is here, you had had 17,000.

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Question, is it the same families and individuals every year

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that continue to re-upper?

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Does it feel like it's different?

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I don't know if you keep track of that at all,

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but these numbers.

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Would that be something to keep track of, or I don't know who you are?

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I think you can track new members just for a few days later.

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Thank you very much.

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The rental fees that you would see for rental,

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is that they would serve funders that go in the district fund.

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So it goes into the QV education fund, but I can separate it out based on what space was granted.

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So you're rental for years for the search was not going to the general school fund.

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So that's all item-wise, mine, separate the kept separate from the general school fund.

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If you're charging equal risk, no matter what sport they

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follow in our facility policy.

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And so we have a tier you follow and do school districts,

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sports.

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They're in a rental fee, but they're different tiers on here.

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People follow in as far as in association, not profit, or profit, and product.

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So I can join them up by one of them.

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That's part of the school.

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Thank you, Stephen, for coming.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So we're still in public comment.

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Let's go to the public and if anyone wants to come to the podium, stage your name, your address.

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And you have three minutes to state your concern.

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I

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know that it's 8.353 place, and I also have about 3.12 e-secretary contours

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from the legs of the main section of the town.

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I'm here to talk about, I had a 10-point on the planners report.

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I have a resolution for gravel park along the C2 section of the town.

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I'll try to make this quick, but what we have for me is the section of the town.

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It's been a little blank for 15 years as a gravel park in line.

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And I will get an additional two years with potentially not two years after that.

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So in perpetuity, we can have the ground apart in another compound.

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I mean, there's such a majority.

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With all the work that we've seen happen,

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downtown, the brewery, and the critique, and other things,

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and other potential things come on, and they're facing things up.

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I just think that this intersection, something should happen,

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shouldn't you claim that this is sort of a slap in the face

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that everybody has been approving their properties.

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We've got one of the set for 15 years.

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Hopes and promises to be well-bred in those previous

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of this product, you know,

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you know, read the face of the building,

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what's in the green space that we saw here,

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is everything that I saw people who were

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who we, and all the new years all the time, right?

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You know, we'll probably talk about it.

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It's just one thing happening here,

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just another one, sitting before you tonight.

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And I would like to request that you

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consider putting a tighter time on this,

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that of us not, if it's not done,

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I don't know if you can do anything to save that, and it's something I'm painting.

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It's been in the 15 years.

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It's been traveling.

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You've got a route.

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It's like when you reach in all the street, in case I'm just going to try to make this route,

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I'm just going to say, you know, a special maintenance route,

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but when you reach in all the street, and the alleyways,

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please consider putting a little pattern of streetings from all that people.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else from the public, I'd like to come to the podium.

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see and let's move forward to administrators or for good evening time.

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Good evening.

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I don't mean it. It must have a lot of pages to it because it's taking a long time to bring up on my computer.

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But basically this would be the next step in the process for interchanged at once,

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as a partnership and cooperation with Midna, it's going to come.

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The next step we were approached by Scott County,

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the year marked funds in the sales tax.

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See if he planted the hell direction and to help us pay for the next step in the phase,

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which throughout the entire process.

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So throughout the entire process, we knew that that wasn't that

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and all the design work for an interchange.

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That was the first step for us to kind of kind of kind of,

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some consensus with the end of the Scott County.

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So that's why that was beneficial.

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But we needed to do a lot more work

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for environmental design work to be able to be applied

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for federal funding and be considered to be a federal fund.

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And that's what this work and the attached information would provide for us.

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The timeline is in there would take roughly year to complete.

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We have a bid proposal for Kimley Hornets attached and a resolution supporting the reasons for the design work and the environmental work to be done.

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The great part of this is that the financial risk to the city is not there to do this, to do this work done.

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But in the past, we've had some, we've had some pointed discussions on what part of the answers weren't answered in the first part of the process.

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The great part of this is that we are going to get some of the answers done as part of this work.

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We'll do a lot more of design work to show the views from the road.

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We'll get a lot more of the work that we'll show staging of the potential staging of a construction project.

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What more and death we had, how different science trucks and automobiles and that to the thing we'll go through, the designs, so a lot of the work in a huge amount of environmental work and right away a type of things.

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So you will get to some of the answers that some of us might have felt that we did not get in the first part but the first part was never intended to get all those answers.

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The design conceptual work was to accommodate a feasible design.

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So this is the next step in that, once we have this project done.

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This is successful. We'll kind of pin point down to more final on the design and we'll be

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applying for a final product. We're very hopeful that we would be very competitive for

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even funding applications. Once this work is done, because we have a great working relationship

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with Scott County and MinDot working together on this type of design of interchange helps us

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greatly to work with them to use them to help us apply for funding. So if we want an interchange

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someday in Georgia at 1692, Carl Knight, this is the next step that's vital for us to do.

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And we're able to do that right now. We'll tell Scott County on the next side of the agenda.

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would be the funding of that.

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I shall make a motion to approve resolution

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2,619, 2019, authorizing the mayor

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and top to enter an agreement for the preliminary design.

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I will second that motion.

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So have a motion from Jeremy and a second from here.

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Any discussion from the council?

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What?

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I don't know who's making the presentation,

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but what happens with,

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let's hypothetically say,

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halfway through this process or something,

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You know, one of the parts of the scope that's included in this resolution, which is the

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next part, which is the same part, is that they're going to interview at least eight stake

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holders in this hypothetically, what happens if six or seven of the stake holders absolutely

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imposed this, will we be given that information and or at that point time are we able to change

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directions if that's deep necessary.

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Yes, he'll be given all the information.

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We're not going to withhold any information from any of those discussions that we

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have in his statement.

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And if the counsel still has, as a point,

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so,

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to just direction, I must ask.

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I know I'm just looking at this.

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I'm trying not to waste money.

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Even though it's 90 hours, I mean, 800 grand or 600 grand, it's a lot of money.

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You know, it is all a money, one shape way from another.

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You know, so I guess my second part of the question is that hypothetically, if that were the case,

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if the people on industrial park were 100% against this,

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how much this information would be useful for a different design?

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I mean, wetland delineations are still going to take place with either whatever concepts that

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we have looked at in the past, I am assuming, other than the specifics about a bridge

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design or something like that there should be some stuff that could be carried over that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I'm sure we can't say for certain that at the end of this that we won't scrap the design that we've looked at before, one or one, but what we do feels that we'll come to.

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More firm conclusion that, yeah, that's the way to go or not. That vast is a question. I can't guarantee that the bill will come to that conclusion that that is the design, because we're looking at all those designs and the under this, but we're more in deficit looking at design one, so to speak. So a lot of this stuff will be reusable. Or work for all the designs we looked at.

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Okay, I didn't read all 270 pages, no, because I got to about page 60 and then it would reload on me, so I didn't get the read them all, so that's why I'm asking some of these questions that answers may be in there, but I just wasn't able to dig that deep, so that being said, so this is going to be looking primarily on one A, on some of the aspects, some of the aspects it would be uniform on all those designs.

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a lot a lot of the information will be basically on a lot on all the designs because they're fair

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of the similar in the footprint area.

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There's some minor changes here all within the same

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year within the same fall. Oh, yeah, they're all within the what do we call it for the effects? No,

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what was that period that we did? Maddie, that we know the mapping. The footprint? They're all within

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that mapping area. So yeah, you're correct. All the designs do. They're all in the impossible planning zone.

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in the possible finds. Okay.

440
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There's a bit of motion, but second.

441
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Didn't does any other council members say?

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Discussion.

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I don't ever look at that as a last move.

444
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We gotta move forward so, so, so, my hat is what's written straight away.

445
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All right, so we have a motion in the second.

446
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All those in favor say aye.

447
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Aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye.

448
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Motion carried.

449
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Let's move on to be resolution to 7.

450
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In 2018, we should have proven a Scott Coney cooperative agreement with 169, interchange, design and environmental documentation work.

451
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Well, if you like 6A, you're really going to like 6B because this pays for 6A.

452
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Scott Coney has been good enough to work with us on potential funding of that design work that would be done approved by the council of previous item.

453
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And we'd like to fake them at this time if this is approved for helping us with the next phase of this interchange of design and environmental documentation.

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I'd like to make a motion.

455
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We pass resolution to 0207-2007-2007 with the letter of thank you.

456
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All right.

457
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I have a motion from Terry in the second from Robert in the discussion.

458
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:53,610
Seeing them, all those in favor say aye.

459
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:54,110
Aye.

460
00:37:54,830 --> 00:37:55,270
Opposed?

461
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:55,710
Aye.

462
00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:57,170
Motion from Terry.

463
00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:02,830
Then let's move on to see Resolution 2-8,

464
00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:07,270
2019 Resolution Supporting the repeal of House file,

465
00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:12,310
28-51, enabling the state of Minnesota and the Metropolitan Council

466
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:15,310
to study commuter real line options.

467
00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:24,230
This is one of scale initiatives for legislative requests, and it's one of our major ones.

468
00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:31,450
And with the amount of people that drive two in front of work in Scott County, I had about 40 percent.

469
00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:39,370
Transportation is a vital artery for our business and our communities to assist.

470
00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:46,950
And one of the issues that we've seen for many years now is the ban on, even in the discussion by the state,

471
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:58,650
ended up to discuss the damn hatch line and the city of Savages is very fiery on this issue.

472
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:01,610
But we would like to support them.

473
00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:07,270
It's part of Scott County and this initiative, if the council sort chooses to at least

474
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:16,930
lift the band to discuss the study of another line across the river for the vital force.

475
00:39:16,930 --> 00:39:23,930
of traffic and either commuter lines or even if it can get on to pedestrians and bikes.

476
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:27,390
They would like to at least discuss the idea.

477
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:31,370
I like this idea, this is a whole concept.

478
00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:39,350
I think it will be, you know, if it ever were to happen to be a vital connection for us,

479
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:45,970
for our community and all there's been talk about people having the drive through the bus stops

480
00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:58,150
I think it's a great opportunity for all of that stuff in December and I have been for people to move out of this area to still work with different areas and taking transportation for it.

481
00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:59,870
So I would like to make the motion.

482
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:08,940
We go ahead and pass this resolution, resolution 02008, 2019, supporting the repeal of the House file.

483
00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:10,300
2851.

484
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,740
2nd, any discussion?

485
00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:21,780
Why does this, which is not a favor of this, I assume, is that correct?

486
00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:22,400
That's average.

487
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,200
There are favorites.

488
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:25,600
There's a big one.

489
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:26,020
I know.

490
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:26,520
Yep.

491
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:27,400
Okay, a way to make it.

492
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,400
So, the way I read this is that there were the ones that initially implemented the fact

493
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,540
that they didn't want to know studies in their area, and now they're saying that they do.

494
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,460
No, that would.

495
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:37,940
No.

496
00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:41,180
What happened is they were studying a line.

497
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,440
And it hit, it was going through some areas that did not want to see the money go

498
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,300
through their communities.

499
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:55,700
and their legislator for a ban has the ban in a state legislator that the state and the

500
00:40:55,700 --> 00:41:01,280
mind are not even discussing this study that they had proposed.

501
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:11,090
So at the time, they claim that as the chief has wrote of any of the other light rail lines

502
00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:18,570
that were chosen, but they failed to get to get to the traction because they were going to

503
00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:23,590
some of the communities that did not want to see that through the communities.

504
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:34,650
It just seems odd that a city council wouldn't have made that decision.

505
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,500
This date I understand that now.

506
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,980
I didn't think I wanted to vote for this at the beginning because I thought I was like

507
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:54,500
sadged into one because one of the things I've heard over at openrovers, there's no light

508
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:58,400
They don't make a dollar, which eventually comes out of everybody's pocket sitting here.

509
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,500
So originally, I looked at them like, yeah, we don't need late rail all out here.

510
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,900
This because of the cost factor, the lower mean.

511
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,480
Look at California last week, they shut their, what was it?

512
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,800
Eugene, Billion Dollar, Project.

513
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,240
They were going to build, and they decided to, uh, doubt of it.

514
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,440
But, and I know that none of the ones in town are ready for it in this Minneapolis make money.

515
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,560
You're always losing money, so this is wondering why they wanted it.

516
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,500
This was a cheaper route, they were banned.

517
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:32,640
They'd talk about it by the state.

518
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:33,620
Okay,

519
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:39,010
but it's basically the same as it's trying to get it.

520
00:42:39,110 --> 00:42:41,190
They would just want us to get it back.

521
00:42:41,490 --> 00:42:43,810
Yeah, I know, I just seemed...

522
00:42:44,810 --> 00:42:46,410
It's an initiative that's good.

523
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:47,770
I was put together, seemed odd.

524
00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:50,210
It's not anyone who else didn't want it in this.

525
00:42:50,430 --> 00:42:51,190
I can't remember any further.

526
00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:57,130
You didn't pray, I think they were just going to stop to the april.

527
00:42:58,530 --> 00:42:59,930
Blooms, it's got a one.

528
00:43:00,250 --> 00:43:01,510
The sofa is lying.

529
00:43:02,290 --> 00:43:03,290
It's a wall of America.

530
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:08,230
And how would venture to guess that this, whoever blocked it, probably attached it to some

531
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:12,390
budget bill, that was completely unrelated and slipped it through?

532
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:14,490
Hmm, though.

533
00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:20,650
Anyway, it's initiative for us to move forward.

534
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:21,350
All right.

535
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:22,870
Confloning more discussion.

536
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:25,030
We have a motion in a second.

537
00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:27,790
All those in favor say aye.

538
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:28,550
Aye.

539
00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:29,510
Opposed?

540
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:30,630
Motion carried.

541
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:32,250
Thank you.

542
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:32,750
All right.

543
00:43:33,010 --> 00:43:35,010
Confloning questions for,

544
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:42,020
all right, seeing that, let's move on to seven point

545
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,080
on attorney's report.

546
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:43,920
Good evening, Brian.

547
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Could you give me a matter, may I have also members that I do have three items on tonight?

548
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,240
I can make them relatively quick.

549
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,420
The first item is the second reading of an ordinance.

550
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,840
2019-01, a many in section, 1.5.1.4.

551
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,100
About the city code governing issuance of permits for utilities within the right way.

552
00:44:09,620 --> 00:44:14,540
The city council has asked to make a motion to approve the second reading of the ordinance

553
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:20,440
to address the federal communication of emissions to their dormitory ruling that came out in

554
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:29,320
October of 2018 that dealt with the ordinances that restrict small wireless facilities,

555
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:38,340
put background for those of you that weren't here last time. Across the nation cities have

556
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:53,480
and asking ordinances to help address small wireless facilities going with coming in within the right away and a big part of that is the push for 5G.

557
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:59,960
So it's a better issue in the major metropolitan policy.

558
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,700
All it's in areas and it ultimately will make its way out. And part of what the wireless providers are concerned

559
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:17,760
with were the restrictions placed on by cities making less cost effective for them to install it.

560
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:27,540
So therefore the FCC came out with this declaratory ruling to try to get everyone to kind of fall into place

561
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:29,020
be a little more consistent.

562
00:45:31,060 --> 00:45:36,600
In reviewing our ordinance that we had passed, previously I saw

563
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,620
a couple of things that needed to be tweaked. The rulings set for the separate shot

564
00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:50,760
clock for cities review of printed applications associated with, between new versus existing

565
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:58,620
support structures that are actually in the right way via day like a existing light hole.

566
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:05,420
The existing one versus a new monopole put in by the wireless company in addition to

567
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:10,800
the light.

568
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,880
That day went with the 90-day in a 60-day

569
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:22,520
plan which one it is, so that's been adjusted

570
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:31,200
as well as we had some aesthetic requirements in our code, which according to the

571
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,980
need to be reasonable, no more burdens of the nose applied to other types of infrastructure deployments,

572
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:45,820
in a objective and in published advance. Well, I believe we need the reason of all, as well as we had already

573
00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:53,420
have them as objective and in more polished advance, the only thing that I saw needed to be adjusted was to have

574
00:46:57,210 --> 00:47:01,590
those requirements applied to all of the structure deployments.

575
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:08,150
So we basically just moved it to a different area of the permitting section of the code.

576
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:10,530
So it wasn't under just small wireless.

577
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:13,530
You kind of applies twice to all.

578
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:17,910
Attach some photo.

579
00:47:18,450 --> 00:47:20,910
A mentor tab should have been photo attached.

580
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:24,330
Unfortunately, I think it didn't get included in the packet.

581
00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:31,930
But I do have an in front of you, Council Member Will, had a question with regards to ground-mounted equipment.

582
00:47:33,730 --> 00:47:53,990
At the last meeting, what we did the first meeting, and the fact that the page, the difference between light and antenna, which would be on the top photo you could see on top above the light itself versus the ground-mounted equipment, which is down actually on the ground.

583
00:47:53,990 --> 00:48:01,110
which is where a lot of the issue of requiring the screening and things that I've made to come into play.

584
00:48:01,930 --> 00:48:06,630
So you don't have simply equipment in the city now on the bottom.

585
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:09,270
When such equipment is necessary.

586
00:48:10,610 --> 00:48:12,230
No, to be quite crying.

587
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:19,330
I can't tell you how, you know, the wireless facilities,

588
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:31,130
And the equipment associated with it is ever changing so I can't tell you that these are like the newest innovation of the equipment this may be

589
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:38,770
I'm just giving you an example between the difference between what an antenna it looks like versus Donald Mountain equipment

590
00:48:38,770 --> 00:48:48,350
That was the purpose of that so that being said a masking city council to make a motion to prove the security that a proposed ordinance 2019

591
00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:57,410
team, committee section, 150 point one, one, four, directs that, publish the amendments, or

592
00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:58,610
certain minutes of sessions.

593
00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:01,030
I'll make a motion.

594
00:49:01,330 --> 00:49:04,150
Any approve the secondary number of orders, 2018.

595
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:05,170
Yeah, sure.

596
00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:07,820
Second.

597
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:11,320
I have a motion from Robert and a second from Amanda.

598
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,100
Any discussion from council?

599
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:16,140
So yes, what is the answer about screening?

600
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:24,120
because we had the panic issue, if somebody is going to put something up near their yard,

601
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:28,080
they need to have a screen and it has to be, you know, we've got rules and regulations

602
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,860
in place. This is something that I had thought about before you just read this.

603
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:42,400
But what came behind is understand it's a public utility and it's an easy public easement.

604
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,760
I understand that, but one of the things that concerns me is the other day when I was just noticing it came down by a lot of doctors and you see that

605
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:55,800
Okay, I'll be gas mean thing, you know, the middle of nowhere. So why are they not

606
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Suck it to screening, simpler than if you decide to put something...

607
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:17,780
In your backyard or our dog shed or something else, I'm a paul, actually, because of the time that we've spent on planning commission going over this and over this and over this, making sure it's all cool, you know, and everybody's happy with it.

608
00:50:17,780 --> 00:50:21,240
And then to come down and see those big giant pipes sticking out of the ground.

609
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:30,860
I was just like, so we, we hold the taxpayers to a different standard than the people who don't pay taxes in the stone, which is these are easements.

610
00:50:31,860 --> 00:50:33,080
What's up with that?

611
00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:42,000
So it's related, and because when each children just push your hero, the stuff on the ground, my intent,

612
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,020
I'm sorry, from the bottom went up.

613
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:53,560
I'm just bringing up an discussion to the bus responses, if I'm wrong, fine.

614
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,420
I have to get the gas lines that's in now there.

615
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,340
I'm probably way, maybe I'm out of line, maybe I'm not.

616
00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:08,340
But I think that the reason for not having a screening around it is a safety issue.

617
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:14,260
If something were to happen there, the first responders, the fire department, who

618
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:20,260
I remember we needed to get to it and that would be, I'm going to call that cylinder to your fire hydrants.

619
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,060
You know, it takes fire hydrants longer to get to it and you can take care of it.

620
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:28,480
You know, so if you have a screening around it, then to me, to me, to me, to me.

621
00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:30,260
It makes a little harder for the middle job.

622
00:51:33,070 --> 00:51:36,010
If I correct or make way offline here.

623
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:41,370
There's different, there's different statutes under each utility.

624
00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:45,130
So like the small cells, as a new one.

625
00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:52,930
And their statutes on what they do for screen here, different than with the gas lines, which

626
00:51:52,930 --> 00:51:53,350
have been,

627
00:51:56,420 --> 00:52:01,300
and we know that what they put up there, by Rottermunkers, is according to code.

628
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120
You know, they put ballers around there for safety and that type of thing.

629
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:08,640
I would agree that it doesn't work great.

630
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:13,800
Who's code, I'm sorry, but who's code, there's our state's code in those people.

631
00:52:16,210 --> 00:52:19,330
We probably can't super seed the state statutes on that.

632
00:52:19,330 --> 00:52:27,120
regulations for utilities other utilities in our right away. It is a shame that we just bought that property.

633
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:31,620
We got that property. You know, by the bank earlier, and we created that right away.

634
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,820
And now, it was a completely filled up with those gas management.

635
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:38,940
But, so why do we live that happen?

636
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:44,160
We did not have a point to say no to that, really.

637
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:53,160
If they were following the statutes, we cannot say no, you're not putting gas in it, so that's what it's not.

638
00:52:54,020 --> 00:53:01,860
Well, it's not that you can't put gas in it, when you're exposed, that means there's not a change, change the scope.

639
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:08,380
I mean, we bought that piece of property for possibly the round of order, something all of a sudden, that's off the table.

640
00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:15,500
Well, I mean, you guys are smiling, I mean, but I mean, it's true that it's out of

641
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:16,040
our hands.

642
00:53:17,140 --> 00:53:18,040
That's my point.

643
00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:19,280
Why is it out of our hands?

644
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:20,240
Oh, it should be.

645
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,840
I mean, if we made the investment into the property, just to give it to somebody else,

646
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:26,440
maybe we should get paid back for it.

647
00:53:26,780 --> 00:53:30,640
However, if they're in our easement and they're in our way of our road or

648
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,580
waters through our line, they're going to need to move it at their expense.

649
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:36,740
So if that, if that ends up being in our way for somebody,

650
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,880
They're going to have to move it at their expense, and we're not going to have to pay for it.

651
00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:43,940
That's similar with the electrical lines, not to be a thing.

652
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,300
If they're in our right or right away, we don't have their own easement.

653
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,940
They need to move a lot of our way if we have what we do in public purpose to have our own

654
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:56,800
dollar of water and sewer lines through a certain area.

655
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,800
So the city does supersede the state.

656
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,160
You don't run about with

657
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:35,340
there in compliance but I have to do anything so I can't look at what we can do if we can do anything.

658
00:54:36,260 --> 00:54:40,140
Yeah, I always thought that we need spot for a welcome to Jordan's sign. Right where those guests might

659
00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:41,480
look a lot better than that.

660
00:54:44,020 --> 00:54:51,940
Just in this may address, Jeff here here at Concernance is part of what the small cell wireless providers

661
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:54,860
requested was that well, you can.

662
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:15,200
In reality, by moving it up into the general conditions. If someone comes in and wants to install something within your right away, it's going to have something up.

663
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,640
It's the same, it's a public utility and a public right away.

664
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:42,300
And again, when we can have all those screenings, things we want to implement, but there's going to be a way to that because they don't have to.

665
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,120
Correct.

666
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:52,260
Well, if they can have something that says there's a lot of problems are streaming requirement.

667
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,120
That's why I'm posing on it's a waste time.

668
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,180
If that's the case, correct.

669
00:56:59,540 --> 00:57:06,180
But for purposes of what the FCC is requiring is that you need to at least have it somewhere

670
00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:10,440
where you can point to and say it applies to others as well.

671
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,560
So

672
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,420
we have a motion in a second, any more discussion comes up.

673
00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:31,540
All right, all those in favor say aye.

674
00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:32,160
Aye.

675
00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:33,180
Opposed.

676
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,780
All right.

677
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,720
Motion carried.

678
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:43,880
Let's move on to the resolution to dash 490-2018.

679
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,120
in the authorizing summarization of ordinance 2018-01,

680
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:52,940
amendment in section 105.114 for purposes.

681
00:57:54,380 --> 00:57:54,720
Thank you.

682
00:57:55,180 --> 00:57:56,460
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

683
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Resolution.

684
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:12,800
This resolution goes to basically asking for the summary publication of the ordinance amendment that we just discussed in the past.

685
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:20,840
Basically, instead of taking up so much from the paper with regards to posting the entire thing,

686
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,740
what I'm proposing is that a passive resolution that would

687
00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:35,750
publish the summary that is provided in the resolution with regards to,

688
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:40,370
in order to provide the notice to the general public as to what the ordinance is about.

689
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Yeah, we're implementing changing of resolutions and ordinances so they go down.

690
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,840
sending number just the resolutions that we're

691
00:59:49,660 --> 00:59:51,980
sending. This is right. Yes. All

692
00:59:59,020 --> 00:59:59,640
right. Second.

693
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:20,620
That's not what I was meaning.

694
01:00:20,620 --> 01:00:24,000
I have a motion from Robert in the second from Amanda.

695
01:00:25,060 --> 01:00:25,940
Any more discussion?

696
01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:27,940
All those in favor say aye.

697
01:00:27,940 --> 01:00:28,860
I've heard.

698
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:29,680
Opposed.

699
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Motion.

700
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:32,480
All right.

701
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:39,960
Let's move on to see resolution 2-10-1-18 amendment to the Stone Bridge in Jordan 3rd

702
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,880
3rd edition in 4th edition, developer's agreement.

703
01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:52,360
Councils ask to make a motion of that resolution 2-10-2-19.

704
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:59,540
to improve this amendment background on it is the city in Stonebridge of Jordan, L.A.C.

705
01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:06,200
as parties to the development agreement for Stonebridge 3rd and 4th edition was executed

706
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:11,860
back in April 2018, which governs both the editions.

707
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:21,000
The language in the development agreement with regards to the 4th edition required second

708
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:29,800
act to be paid at the time of final platter approval for the fourth edition, the preliminary

709
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:38,420
platter for the fourth edition is set to expire at March 29, 2019. The developers don't

710
01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:49,640
bridge up Jordan is requesting that the second wax charges be pushed back until they

711
01:01:49,640 --> 01:02:01,020
C.K. notice to proceed for this construction of the fourth edition, that for this amendment was drafted in order to provide that flexibility.

712
01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:10,680
It does not change any of the other cement requirements or the substantial completion date for the fourth edition or the final completion date.

713
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:17,380
So basically there's certain steps that will have documentation that have to be provided

714
01:02:17,380 --> 01:02:24,230
with the final plan, which that could occur, that should be a

715
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:28,300
computer.

716
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,760
It also saves us the time to redo the preliminary plot and final plot.

717
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:23,740
We don't want to do that either.

718
01:03:30,850 --> 01:03:31,670
So a big,

719
01:03:58,310 --> 01:04:00,410
we're ready to break ground or whatever,

720
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:06,740
which if there's

721
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,380
a go back and redo it,

722
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,080
then they have that window.

723
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:40,440
So, with that being said, City Council's asked to make a motion to adopt resolution

724
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:40,980
at

725
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:43,840
the F-2,019,

726
01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:51,930
the development of Greenstone Bridge of Jordan, LLC, for Stone Bridge, third

727
01:04:51,930 --> 01:04:55,430
edition, Stone Bridge, Fourth Edition, and I'm sorry.

728
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:06,640
So what's the benefit to them in between just the lay of pain?

729
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,220
That's what I'm trying to understand.

730
01:05:09,460 --> 01:05:10,920
Yeah, this is a common request.

731
01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:13,600
We did the same thing for, I believe, aims.

732
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,520
We didn't require them to pay them.

733
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:16,940
Ah, that found plough.

734
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,240
We, they, they request them.

735
01:05:18,340 --> 01:05:19,000
They're development group.

736
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:21,700
They didn't pay, they didn't pay for like a month or two.

737
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:23,120
Different.

738
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,800
So we weren't.

739
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,180
We didn't view this as treating them any differently than we did by work.

740
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,680
And they drafted us as we drafted us.

741
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:31,300
We did.

742
01:05:32,060 --> 01:05:35,440
And did they pay us back for our time regretting?

743
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,540
All right.

744
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:39,260
Yes.

745
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:39,840
I'll have another.

746
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,340
I'll make a motion.

747
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:44,940
House resolution.

748
01:05:45,860 --> 01:05:47,900
0.210 to 19.

749
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:50,400
Dev is second.

750
01:05:51,260 --> 01:05:51,440
Also.

751
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:54,660
Have a motion from Jeff in a second from the main.

752
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,820
Any more discussion?

753
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,600
All those in favor say aye.

754
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,020
Aye.

755
01:05:59,500 --> 01:06:00,000
Opposed.

756
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,420
Thank you.

757
01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:04,400
Council have any questions for Brian?

758
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:05,740
All right.

759
01:06:05,940 --> 01:06:07,900
Seeing them, let's move on to 8.0.

760
01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:09,800
Engineers report good evening, Mike.

761
01:06:11,890 --> 01:06:13,370
You need that, remember, as a council?

762
01:06:14,770 --> 01:06:15,470
8.0.

763
01:06:15,470 --> 01:06:15,570
8.0.

764
01:06:15,570 --> 01:06:15,590
8.0.

765
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:16,530
8.0.

766
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:16,890
8.0.

767
01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:16,990
8.0.

768
01:06:16,990 --> 01:06:17,650
8.0.

769
01:06:17,650 --> 01:06:20,790
8.0.

770
01:06:21,130 --> 01:06:27,310
8.0.

771
01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:34,310
So just to back on your state of system, what it is, it's something that operates in

772
01:06:34,850 --> 01:06:39,730
the communications and controls or a bunch of your facility through our town where you're

773
01:06:39,730 --> 01:06:42,810
water towers, you're watching your plant and wells, you're through the station.

774
01:06:44,090 --> 01:06:48,790
It essentially functions to operate those facilities, to attract or influence of them in

775
01:06:48,790 --> 01:06:49,310
its water.

776
01:06:49,610 --> 01:06:50,990
So things are what we're going along.

777
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:52,810
So essentially it's the ranks of the operation.

778
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:57,290
It's tabling, you know, like water tower sets a signal down to your water crew.

779
01:06:57,290 --> 01:07:01,990
plant, or if you lose your pumps, tells that these will water. It's what ends up going

780
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:06,470
on the power. When some of the water goes on, that's what emerges the alarm. It's just

781
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:12,830
some, some indicate that tells it that the answer is going to go out. So, really, it's

782
01:07:12,830 --> 01:07:15,950
going to go on all of those things. If you have a pump that's running excess of the water

783
01:07:15,950 --> 01:07:27,270
time, that can be indicated that pumps that work well. So, the fact that we're going to

784
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:31,230
Just being in a alarm, if there is an emergency alarm aspect of this, if your tower

785
01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:36,210
sort of dropping, for example, that I indicate that when your booster pumps isn't working,

786
01:07:36,670 --> 01:07:40,870
that I indicate something's going down, just a little trick in plant, it can actually

787
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:45,030
send out applications and emergency sensitive homework staff to get them on board.

788
01:07:45,370 --> 01:07:50,830
And if that's a data system isn't working, well, there's nothing to set off that alarm.

789
01:07:51,970 --> 01:07:56,130
And I mean, kind of a worst case scenario there, when your tower screen is one day,

790
01:07:56,130 --> 01:07:57,950
That would kind of like your situation, actually,

791
01:07:58,070 --> 01:07:59,970
at one of our distribution issues going on around.

792
01:08:00,290 --> 01:08:03,810
So it's an important piece of the system for your community.

793
01:08:04,370 --> 01:08:07,450
Your system right now, it's got different components

794
01:08:07,450 --> 01:08:08,570
that are different gauge.

795
01:08:08,570 --> 01:08:11,770
Some of them, I think, are aside from the little little pieces

796
01:08:11,770 --> 01:08:13,810
that can plug in here and there.

797
01:08:14,210 --> 01:08:16,670
The last major upgrade to about 2008,

798
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:20,050
there's other components of this that are 20 years old,

799
01:08:20,090 --> 01:08:21,570
perhaps more, it's hard to generalize,

800
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:24,170
but consider to 20-year-old computer system,

801
01:08:24,170 --> 01:08:26,070
and you can see the actual components in the port

802
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:27,410
on the right side here.

803
01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:29,390
The system was originally made in fact

804
01:08:29,390 --> 01:08:30,270
or by scenes.

805
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:32,470
They'll actually support it anymore.

806
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:34,350
They don't make infection in parts ports.

807
01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:37,750
So if you do have a component that goes down,

808
01:08:38,190 --> 01:08:39,710
your public works director Scott Osis

809
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:42,670
been contacting your vendor for this on having systems.

810
01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:44,610
They're a professional that feels

811
01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:47,410
and stayed in operations for a number of capabilities.

812
01:08:48,270 --> 01:08:49,530
He contacts them.

813
01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:51,770
They try to find parts for this thing.

814
01:08:51,770 --> 01:08:56,050
It can, it has taken them up to a month and time to find the right parts.

815
01:08:56,410 --> 01:09:01,010
Now, clearly, Scott and on-back systems have been a pretty good job

816
01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:02,910
because they've kind of worked at nine scenes here,

817
01:09:02,990 --> 01:09:05,690
and you have a pad made issues like your towers are in it.

818
01:09:05,690 --> 01:09:06,890
And that's stuff going on.

819
01:09:07,550 --> 01:09:11,870
But those folks are all thinking the best course of action,

820
01:09:12,030 --> 01:09:14,970
intersection to replace a lot of the system and something that's newer

821
01:09:14,970 --> 01:09:18,890
and something that is supported by it's being captured now,

822
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:22,270
to prevent any kind of existing failure from happening

823
01:09:22,270 --> 01:09:24,510
in the future, so those those folks are getting concerned.

824
01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:27,870
This part is a process, like I mentioned,

825
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:30,290
for a sort of, or has the other developed

826
01:09:30,290 --> 01:09:32,550
for different options, for the council's consideration,

827
01:09:33,470 --> 01:09:35,430
the first one would be to receive a proposal,

828
01:09:36,230 --> 01:09:37,530
which would include scope of work,

829
01:09:37,770 --> 01:09:40,190
so that's telling you, I'm going to replace these parts

830
01:09:40,190 --> 01:09:43,570
with this part, the student of this part of the system,

831
01:09:43,850 --> 01:09:46,430
with this new system, here's how it performs.

832
01:09:47,610 --> 01:09:52,370
We're going to do this installation, you know, we've had such a such a warranty that comes with it.

833
01:09:52,510 --> 01:09:55,750
And then again, associated fees for how much of cost was very as components.

834
01:09:56,670 --> 01:09:59,510
So the first option is to get that very current, very perpendicular.

835
01:10:02,460 --> 01:10:30,000
The second option is to get that same proposal that goes to school board. Then take that school board and send it to a different vendor and pack that a name one company control which would be a competitor of automatic systems. And then request the fee proposal for them. So we're not actually taking the fee and saying, okay, here's what automatic systems gave us. We would keep everything separate. So people are, you know, competitively fitting, no, there's sort of a professional aspect of this too.

836
01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:34,160
are kind of providing you different components that can perform for you.

837
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,240
But the first two options are just working with those vendors to get a scope and a fee

838
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,540
to present it back to the Council for consideration.

839
01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:47,660
The third one is third option is would be for the city to actually hire an election engineer

840
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:50,540
to critique the scope from on a matter of systems.

841
01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:53,080
The next step, we take a look through it.

842
01:10:53,140 --> 01:10:57,260
We really do need an election engineer to want to critique the various components of this.

843
01:10:57,260 --> 01:11:00,140
of computer system essentially, and go through it.

844
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:02,740
And then, you know, that electrical engineer

845
01:11:02,740 --> 01:11:05,020
can tell you, well, you don't really need this piece.

846
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:06,840
You might need this piece.

847
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:09,660
Or you could do something a little bit differently

848
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:12,280
to make it work with other research, or not higher

849
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:12,720
expertise.

850
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:15,000
I'm just saying, if you want to critique that scope,

851
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,280
that's quite a service that you need from someone

852
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,380
to question here.

853
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:22,060
The cost of that would be in estimate of 15 grand or so.

854
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,240
And then the fourth option would be to actually

855
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,940
have an electrical engineer, some of all

856
01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:34,060
may actually prepare some kinds of testifications to just kind of open this if you will to the market through a public fitting process.

857
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:42,780
That's not required in this case because it is a professional service for our observations about our system's work, other committees and other regard it.

858
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:49,080
I'll link that process as an estimated cost of $75,000 plus again in the cost of the work.

859
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:55,080
As far as estimate cost for a whole, we're talking about here's kind of scale magnitude of the entire issue.

860
01:11:55,300 --> 01:12:00,380
We're recommending that the city would budget 275,000 for the full system replacement.

861
01:12:00,980 --> 01:12:04,340
To cost about just three and four would be above and beyond that.

862
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:09,620
That's again the 15 and 75 numbers that I was referring to that would be above and beyond that amount.

863
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,140
What we're talking about here tonight is not for the council.

864
01:12:12,140 --> 01:12:21,580
We see ESCO spend two and a sudden 5,000 our request to be denied is to figure out what process we should go through to bring back a numbers for you.

865
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:25,580
With that, staff is recommending all the options one or two.

866
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:32,480
We don't necessarily value in the options three and four that we've laid out for you, but it will represent those as an option for you.

867
01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:40,620
I think staff is leaning a little more towards options two, but a lot of the system is also going to be a great benefit to work with and that's very trustworthy in the town here.

868
01:12:40,620 --> 01:12:43,020
And then there's lots of all the issues that are going on.

869
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:46,600
So with that, I'd stand for any questions about what the skaters

870
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,760
system does, and then any questions can help out.

871
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,540
So Mike, this is basically an automated system.

872
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,880
We would just tell us it keeps tabs of all your alarm system is going on,

873
01:12:57,900 --> 01:12:59,620
with your water, and full of anything.

874
01:13:00,860 --> 01:13:05,700
I kind of work with a similar program in my building for the school

875
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:12,900
system. After a time, these older systems become obsolete and it's very hard as a state

876
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:20,900
of the new report to give parts for it. So the Octobov may be doing a complete upgrade

877
01:13:23,780 --> 01:13:31,600
in past experience. When you do that in the long run, it saves you more money. Because

878
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,560
when you go into the system like this kind of stuff you're going into and you're going

879
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:41,120
fix one problem over here, but they don't even put in a bandage on the other one.

880
01:13:42,500 --> 01:13:50,360
So when these computers, you know, the technology has changed so much that these older

881
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,920
computers and systems, it's kind of hard to find a part of it because they quit making

882
01:13:55,740 --> 01:13:56,300
them.

883
01:13:56,420 --> 01:14:05,540
You know, so I would just assume, like, to see this from, you know, working with the

884
01:14:07,460 --> 01:14:14,800
more feasible in my eyes to do the upgrade that it wouldn't be to just put in a bandied

885
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,060
on something here down the road and, well, the next council down the road is going to have

886
01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:21,360
to think about replacing it.

887
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:27,660
You know, the hour-doers pass in the past and you'll kick it and it can't down the road

888
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:28,580
and sort of speak.

889
01:14:29,540 --> 01:14:31,040
So that's just my opinion.

890
01:14:32,980 --> 01:14:44,300
But if you want to hire it on your service person to come in here and take a look at it and give you an estimated price of what you had to do to replace it on the or repair the parts that we have.

891
01:14:44,660 --> 01:14:45,920
And then find out 15 years.

892
01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:46,500
Not even that.

893
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,820
Maybe five years, ten years on the road that you had to replace the system.

894
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:53,500
CHEMP.

895
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,300
I agree with everything Cherry said.

896
01:14:55,460 --> 01:14:57,660
But here's what the other side of the coin.

897
01:14:57,660 --> 01:14:59,960
Um, two hundred seventy-five.

898
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:22,140
$5,000. Why was this not on our CIP? This has been a 20-year ongoing project. And we've known that this has been failing for years. Why was this added in? I mean, that seems like something that should be exactly. I mean, we should have been, we should be planning for this. I mean, I don't recall that on the CIP. Am I wrong?

899
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:31,040
We do have in the CIP, you can think it's $200,000 for just one distribution of permits on an annual basis that may or may not occur.

900
01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:38,560
I think moving forward tonight, if you'd like, what we could do is essentially what's happening right now.

901
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:40,900
Is that vanity process that carries a firm too?

902
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,080
I mean, if we come back, we can actually get proposals for this.

903
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:49,800
What have you, we've got some kind of number from us, and you just feel like you're wandering on.

904
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,320
of money.

905
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,140
So, you can feel my scroll for it.

906
01:15:52,340 --> 01:15:53,760
This can handle this.

907
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,680
Well, then maybe it's something that's got to go in the future.

908
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,960
You're scared of you because like the set of 200,000 is quite enough to cover what

909
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:01,160
we're talking about here right now.

910
01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:03,100
I think you could make that consideration.

911
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,140
The next stage, if you like it, thank you.

912
01:16:06,140 --> 01:16:08,260
Your staff, and I could kind of go through this and let it upon me.

913
01:16:08,260 --> 01:16:10,680
It's scenarios for the actual costs that we're seeing.

914
01:16:11,860 --> 01:16:14,560
I can't address this because the question why I'm trying to line it up first.

915
01:16:15,740 --> 01:16:17,440
You know, I'm not sure what it's trying to help.

916
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:31,200
I'm trying to figure out the next course here, given the situation that's going on, and I think it's been a long issue because it will, as well, I don't think it's been something that's going to be a part of the kind of hyper-productive for those guys, what parts are going to fill?

917
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:45,160
That's my point. I mean, it's just been a nine-point issue, why don't we add it in a year, go over two years ago, you know, to prevent, also being here, and this all affects our sewer rates and stuff like that.

918
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,000
We just got done doing water in the places and the story creases and stuff, you know,

919
01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:53,400
and all of a sudden the throw in other, almost a row of about 300 grand, you know, all of a sudden

920
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:59,160
whoa, you know, that's, that's kind of a bottom of the night too, all of a sudden we're changing the game

921
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,380
as far as I'm concerned, you know, I'm sure where should we have a little bit more hands up on this

922
01:17:03,380 --> 01:17:08,580
and maybe we could have, rather than a band-aid, again, maybe we could have followed something

923
01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:13,600
better back then and implemented a piece at a time when one piece fails, put it in the new piece,

924
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,960
rather than getting hit with all those lawns.

925
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:21,900
I'm not sure that we didn't have it in there, but I think we might have had it staged over years.

926
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:28,260
So you know, I don't think we assumed that it would just all be read out at the same time.

927
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,680
Okay, so my main concern right now is it's worse than 300 grand.

928
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,740
I mean, I'm not debating whether we need this or not. That's not what I'm saying.

929
01:17:36,740 --> 01:17:43,460
It's just, you know, some time ago when I first was elected in a line with Jeff.

930
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:49,620
But anyways, we had just a whole discussion about budgeting.

931
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:57,140
And when I talked about doing PMs, preventing it, it's a budgeting for needed equipment down the road.

932
01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:02,700
You're right, peace, part of it.

933
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:32,080
This should have been, kind of, looked at, I guess, shame on us up here and not asking the questions, because we don't know it, but when I'd like to see it in the future for plans for the electronics upgrades, for like this water plant, you know, there's probably more than this out now water plant that probably might need to be updated down the road, you know what I'm trying to say?

934
01:18:33,540 --> 01:18:40,100
No, we budgeted an extra amount of dollars for preventivating it, so you have to be able to put improvements.

935
01:18:40,700 --> 01:18:48,180
What I'm saying is, I think we did plan for this, we didn't plan for it all the half an at one time, so we are budgeting for this.

936
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,940
So, don't think that we didn't, this is, this is all just happened all.

937
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,860
What a surprise, we have a system that cost rent, though.

938
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,980
We knew that there was a system that cost rent, we thought it would be staged over years that we could replace it.

939
01:19:00,980 --> 01:19:12,520
We just did the water plant in 2008, but correctly, and we did that systems, and we put about 45,000 into that time to get up to where it is now.

940
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:20,280
So there's no point where we didn't know that we'd have to replace the system sometime, but we thought it would be staged over years.

941
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:26,840
So we do have some improvements of this nature in our CNP.

942
01:19:27,340 --> 01:19:29,440
It's just that we didn't have it all in one time.

943
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:33,160
It was a surprise to us that they came back and said,

944
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,660
Well, we're not gonna be in parts for this anymore.

945
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,060
You need to replace it with that.

946
01:19:37,220 --> 01:19:38,660
We'll never thought that would happen.

947
01:19:39,380 --> 01:19:42,420
That's my point that I've tried to draw two years.

948
01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:47,770
With your technologies, your laptops, everything else.

949
01:19:48,010 --> 01:19:49,970
This system is basically the same thing.

950
01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:56,150
all the electronics. The only make it for so long and then you go ahead and change all

951
01:19:56,150 --> 01:19:59,410
those products and change your software and all that stuff.

952
01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:04,040
They really got you because they don't think that product anymore.

953
01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:13,400
And again, I'm not debating that. What I'm debating is what Tom just kind of cleared up for me and I guess that was not articulated very well on the right up.

954
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:22,140
Okay, I mean, if you just read this for the first time, it looks like we're saying somebody's handing us a bill for 300 grand.

955
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:43,540
That's why I asked the questions, but when he says that it is being budgeted for, I guess, my next question is the, and I think he said it was like $200,000, how much of that has been saved or unspent that gets put towards this, are we actually really budgeting?

956
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:50,920
we did we have 50,000 left over the 200 to put towards us and we're going to find out.

957
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:05,260
In both waters or

958
01:21:10,540 --> 01:21:16,560
I think what we've been putting we were assuming it would be about 50,000 dollars a year.

959
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:24,540
to get this overall. Succession of years to get this completed. But we're told that

960
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:28,700
the dollar you can't. You need to do it all the time. Understand? So, what you're

961
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:36,240
basically using that last year's budget in this year, we have $100,000 towards this.

962
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,280
Okay,

963
01:21:53,310 --> 01:22:03,270
so we do have money in the bank. So I guess my question for you know, is we talked about the other stages.

964
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,770
Well, it was 15,000, Mike he said. The other one is how much?

965
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:16,420
I'm looking at it right now.

966
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,920
I'll turn it as one and two options.

967
01:22:19,220 --> 01:22:20,340
One and two, we're really over right now.

968
01:22:20,460 --> 01:22:22,100
And then we can put it in the option.

969
01:22:22,460 --> 01:22:22,980
Three is the switcher.

970
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,220
We're going to get some number here.

971
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:24,880
You

972
01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:30,960
can forward me and actually prepare for my specifications.

973
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,280
We're just not sure that at the end of the day you're going to get the work we have.

974
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,140
And then this one and that option is one or two.

975
01:22:38,780 --> 01:22:40,380
So the work we're going to do is.

976
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:41,680
Here's my point.

977
01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:43,380
Here's my point.

978
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,680
That was trying to.

979
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,000
I would like to try and make as, you know, options three is $15,000.

980
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:51,460
And option four or $75,000.

981
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,920
Where the other option is basically 275,000.

982
01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:56,340
We pair it all, thank correct.

983
01:22:56,940 --> 01:22:57,640
No, no, no, no.

984
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:58,720
All there is another option.

985
01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:58,760
Yeah.

986
01:22:58,760 --> 01:22:59,900
I'll see you in return in the issue.

987
01:23:00,020 --> 01:23:03,820
Right, what I'm doing is, so you got $90,000.

988
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,740
Basically, on top of 275,000.

989
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:09,300
Correct?

990
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,600
You would only go with three or

991
01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:19,050
four or zero, which is one or two.

992
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:20,710
Right, like on that correct.

993
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:28,270
So we're comfortable with either one or two, Scott's comfortable with automated systems.

994
01:23:28,890 --> 01:23:32,410
But we don't want to make that decision without giving you the option.

995
01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:34,250
But it's

996
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,160
also...

997
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:43,300
I

998
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,100
don't think it should affect the Debag system.

999
01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:28,650
I think the money we saved on the dewatering bag would help pay for this. We're saving roughly 20 to 25,000 dollars a year on.

1000
01:25:28,650 --> 01:25:56,430
I'm sorry to say that. We like to put honey that we say it in the multiple places, so the other thing might, the other thing might, the other thing might, so with that, the interchange we just got done doing before the, the new water, sewer line being had going out, I want to make sure that this system that we have now, that addition is going to be able to help support that.

1001
01:25:56,430 --> 01:25:58,250
So we're not in a change.

1002
01:25:58,930 --> 01:25:59,410
Yes, that's true.

1003
01:25:59,610 --> 01:26:00,170
Interceptor.

1004
01:26:01,610 --> 01:26:06,170
So make sure we can, you know, this system here will that go to handle that addition,

1005
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:10,590
you know, the current system, the dollars, you know, the bulk of items on it,

1006
01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:13,570
it's obsolete or hard to get parts for it.

1007
01:26:13,770 --> 01:26:19,430
You know, so I want to make sure we're looking at that general picture of the future.

1008
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:25,010
You know, so when we go ahead and put everything in the full swing again,

1009
01:26:25,010 --> 01:26:29,190
You get that running is, are we going to need to come back and say, okay now we're going

1010
01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:36,330
to have to spend another 180,000 when addition on this new system into accommodate our extras,

1011
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:38,310
and we just got it added onto it.

1012
01:26:39,010 --> 01:26:43,250
So, you know, that just kind of, let's make it for the press.

1013
01:26:43,390 --> 01:26:47,570
But we are looking to try looking to the future, you know, because we're going to do a

1014
01:26:47,570 --> 01:26:54,250
device of doing right and save some money, some holes somewhere on doing this program.

1015
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:59,310
have to come back later see okay we need to add to this one because what we have is currently

1016
01:26:59,310 --> 01:27:05,530
that sufficient up the handle over blowing for. So Terry, do you want to make this number?

1017
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:10,190
I'm oh shall okay go ahead Jeff. I like to make a motion that we do number two

1018
01:27:12,050 --> 01:27:20,270
direct staff to proceed on option number two. Oh second. So I have a motion from Jack

1019
01:27:20,270 --> 01:27:22,330
a second for move in. Yes.

1020
01:27:23,050 --> 01:27:25,550
Aside from ASC, you said there's another one.

1021
01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:29,050
Bywin, we have them both coming until us the scope of work.

1022
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:30,510
Right? We just use ASC.

1023
01:27:30,730 --> 01:27:32,630
It seems that there's two ways to keep ASC on.

1024
01:27:32,770 --> 01:27:36,390
It's one of them is to have a competitor and give us a price of what it would cost.

1025
01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:41,430
But the other one would be to have them give us a plan of what we need, right?

1026
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:43,650
Because ASC is coming until us that we need.

1027
01:27:43,670 --> 01:27:45,290
That's why it's an option too.

1028
01:27:45,470 --> 01:27:46,510
But that doesn't get us.

1029
01:27:46,510 --> 01:27:48,030
It's confusing ASC scope.

1030
01:27:48,030 --> 01:27:52,190
So, as you tell this that we need a Chevy every day and a competitor.

1031
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:56,090
And as you go to the scope, I do the competitor.

1032
01:27:57,050 --> 01:28:01,670
So, if you came in there to tell me I needed a new heater in my house and a new air conditioning

1033
01:28:01,670 --> 01:28:06,250
I only needed a new heater, we're just going to turn over your kind of competitor that says

1034
01:28:06,250 --> 01:28:08,090
I need a new heater and a new air conditioner.

1035
01:28:09,150 --> 01:28:13,370
I really just needed a heater that the competitor can come in and tell me you really just

1036
01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:13,910
need a heater.

1037
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:18,470
The way I understand this is that we're two people coming in and they're going to make a proposal.

1038
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:22,110
Not the exact, this is not what it reads now.

1039
01:28:22,170 --> 01:28:25,790
It reads that the ASC is going to tell you what we need, and we're going to send it off.

1040
01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:30,670
So another competitor to figure out what the theme proposal would be for that.

1041
01:28:31,150 --> 01:28:34,070
Okay, the 9th is a burden, so that's not what I want.

1042
01:28:34,850 --> 01:28:38,950
I want to give two competitive bits from two separate entities.

1043
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:40,070
That's what I want.

1044
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:42,900
Okay.

1045
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,220
So did you get that change?

1046
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,840
So I'm going to rescind whatever if I have to to remake it.

1047
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,900
But my motion is I want to get two bits from two separate people.

1048
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:56,780
What we need and how much it's going to cost.

1049
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,200
I was just going to declare, I think we will still share that scope with them.

1050
01:29:00,340 --> 01:29:04,660
We want to try to get this apples that apples the best we can use in your example.

1051
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,340
We want to make sure that they won't be able to do their conditioner in the air.

1052
01:29:08,860 --> 01:29:12,140
And that's not just only doing something apples or just.

1053
01:29:12,140 --> 01:29:15,540
I prefer not to do that. I want to see two people's opinions.

1054
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,720
Well, and see how far apart they are.

1055
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:25,340
Maybe one's deficient in what we are looking at and the other one isn't.

1056
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:28,180
So I'd rather have two completely separate opinions.

1057
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,540
I would not have information shared between the two.

1058
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:32,420
That's my opinion.

1059
01:29:33,620 --> 01:29:37,060
You have two people or professionals that are doing it.

1060
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:40,340
They should come up with the same thing, but if they don't, I'd like to know why.

1061
01:29:40,340 --> 01:29:45,240
Well, after they both submitted their proposals, then it makes sense to go back to them.

1062
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,780
Correct. They're saying they need this.

1063
01:29:48,260 --> 01:29:49,660
Exactly. Yes, no.

1064
01:29:49,940 --> 01:29:53,700
Typically, they will do that. They'll try to undercut the other person because, well, they're going to say,

1065
01:29:53,860 --> 01:29:54,660
you don't need this.

1066
01:29:55,540 --> 01:29:58,400
It's not like a real thing when they ask you, what is your insurance company?

1067
01:29:58,500 --> 01:29:59,960
Tell you that you can...

1068
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,420
I don't think that that's how this has been worked.

1069
01:30:04,660 --> 01:30:10,580
And part of the challenge here, too, I mean, the step of not hiring your wish once you're to critique it,

1070
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,980
and these guys are professionals and you're really good at what they do.

1071
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,100
And they could write something in a club in a way that you wouldn't necessarily know where you're getting.

1072
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:25,180
Apple's orders. So I think it has been officially provided in schools that they can,

1073
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:28,920
and mash that orb, just know that we have that skull over here,

1074
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,920
and then like, Thomas, same hooker to eat it.

1075
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:34,040
So, we'll go back and forth those kind of little bit of a dance

1076
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,040
that goes on here with the option two.

1077
01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:38,860
Which I think is what also, if you're going to say anything,

1078
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,500
they both did it the way that Jackson and then you could give them each other

1079
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:44,500
scope of work, and tell us what's wrong with it.

1080
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:47,980
One of the other things that we talked about is structuring.

1081
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:54,320
It's what we go over two budget years, so we start in this year and then going to the next year.

1082
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:59,920
So we have two bunch of years we can budget and wrap up to this and we're not going to

1083
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:03,820
take away our little bit of cushion that we just took years to start to build.

1084
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:05,300
We're going to wipe it all in one year.

1085
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,060
So do we have a thick crack?

1086
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,780
What did I say?

1087
01:31:09,940 --> 01:31:10,900
What did we just do?

1088
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,180
Okay, so go ahead.

1089
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:13,760
What do you think?

1090
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:14,840
What do you want to do?

1091
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,600
Because it sounds like it would be the same thing anyway.

1092
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,760
It's still going to have two different.

1093
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,980
You just don't have two different bits.

1094
01:31:24,330 --> 01:31:25,630
They're both going to talk to you.

1095
01:31:25,890 --> 01:31:32,350
My understanding is that if we have a menu that we want each company to bid on ones

1096
01:31:32,350 --> 01:31:37,530
into come-in cheaper, what I'm saying is that why don't we open it up and have this company

1097
01:31:37,530 --> 01:31:41,690
with their expertise, give us a bid, this company give us their expertise and give us

1098
01:31:41,690 --> 01:31:42,270
a bid.

1099
01:31:42,630 --> 01:31:47,230
And if they match fine if they're not, let's read all what's good and bad, maybe they have

1100
01:31:47,230 --> 01:31:52,550
a better system for the same money or maybe have a different idea than what we're currently

1101
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:57,190
have, maybe it's better, maybe it's not. It's not going to cost us nothing. Let's just

1102
01:31:57,190 --> 01:31:59,390
look at it. That's what might be-

1103
01:31:59,390 --> 01:32:00,530
It's what you're saying. Great.

1104
01:32:01,010 --> 01:32:05,530
No, what he's actually saying is that we tell them what we want. Okay, and then each company

1105
01:32:05,530 --> 01:32:10,770
bids on it, so that it's apples to apples. What I'm saying is, is that I'd like to see what

1106
01:32:10,770 --> 01:32:15,550
apples result and besides the apples. Maybe they're also telling them what we want. It's

1107
01:32:15,550 --> 01:32:19,010
A, C, something that's what we need, and then they need a few million dollars.

1108
01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:25,590
I think here's Scott pretty much has a pretty good idea what he's doing out there and what he needs to be done.

1109
01:32:26,170 --> 01:32:27,330
The one needs to be repaired.

1110
01:32:28,630 --> 01:32:35,630
So this is not just torn together and saying, okay, this is what we need to do.

1111
01:32:36,290 --> 01:32:40,010
He has a general idea, a pretty good idea, not a general.

1112
01:32:40,270 --> 01:32:44,010
He's got a pretty good idea of what he needs to be repaired out there.

1113
01:32:44,010 --> 01:32:52,210
So basically when the heat there, given us the company's name here, the company that actually

1114
01:32:52,210 --> 01:32:55,130
seen us, we need to repair this.

1115
01:32:56,110 --> 01:33:01,550
And I wanted to bet you that Scott's already a private, but in contact with them, discuss

1116
01:33:01,550 --> 01:33:08,090
this whole program with them and pretty good handle on what needs to be repaired out there.

1117
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:20,490
So, he's already stated, this is wrong, and these parts have been obsolete that we can't get, or very hard to come by.

1118
01:33:21,370 --> 01:33:30,450
Yeah, like I said, Scott is comfortable with the current company we have and getting just a bit from them, but we didn't feel comfortable recommending just that to you.

1119
01:33:30,450 --> 01:33:38,470
So but my thing we know that you guys want to keep everybody honest and get the best bid possible so we didn't we didn't propose yet

1120
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:39,930
We need to go up this company

1121
01:33:39,930 --> 01:33:46,150
So that's what that's why we're in this discussion. I just don't think that's you know

1122
01:33:46,150 --> 01:33:48,710
We hire a Scott to run his built just

1123
01:33:48,710 --> 01:33:58,810
Out there and he knows that place out there better than anyone of us sitting up here and I and just to keep not just to keep modest

1124
01:33:58,810 --> 01:34:01,290
But he knows what he's doing out there

1125
01:34:01,290 --> 01:34:05,470
And I feel that if he wants to go with number two,

1126
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:07,990
which Jeff has made the proposal to go with,

1127
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:10,910
the idea of what's going on with another competitor,

1128
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:12,870
given the same scope of work

1129
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:14,530
that has already been put together,

1130
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,500
because these guys know what they need to do.

1131
01:34:21,220 --> 01:34:23,480
So for them, they have another company company

1132
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:25,940
to re-go over what skies already said

1133
01:34:25,940 --> 01:34:27,760
that we need it, and the other companies already said,

1134
01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:30,400
we need it, to me it's just a waste of stuff.

1135
01:34:32,570 --> 01:34:38,210
To me it's got zero cost to us and if it's gotten on with that well and the other side

1136
01:34:38,210 --> 01:34:43,070
It's not going to be able to tell us that we don't need a component that we need correct and I agree with you

1137
01:34:43,070 --> 01:34:49,010
But I've just saying that Scott knows what's going, but it's already listed that you want to have that a better

1138
01:34:49,010 --> 01:34:50,690
And come in there

1139
01:34:50,690 --> 01:34:51,170
So

1140
01:34:52,150 --> 01:34:56,170
I don't know that that's what was said what was said to me is that they are comfortable

1141
01:34:57,930 --> 01:34:59,950
They got presented to us that we can have this

1142
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:13,960
Second option. I think what's transpired is that Jeff has said that in a brief, I guess in what I said is that you'd have two different people come in and tell you what you need and what it's going to cost.

1143
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:28,760
I think two is even shy on projects. I don't have anybody come and do anything that I can't do on my house unless I'm going to have three beds, but if we're happy just doing two other, I'd have them come in and tell me what I need and how much it's going to cost.

1144
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,380
and I just got to think of some of these on base, on that.

1145
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,220
Then once these are the next participants, they're...

1146
01:35:34,220 --> 01:35:38,040
We just gave a procedure for a government contract to distribute, right?

1147
01:35:41,540 --> 01:35:44,400
We're not required to get two bits on this work.

1148
01:35:44,580 --> 01:35:47,300
Right, because you are comfortable just getting one bit.

1149
01:35:47,900 --> 01:35:50,520
And we know that you potentially want to do two bits.

1150
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,920
These are two companies that we recommend to us in this special service.

1151
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,460
So that's why we have the two.

1152
01:35:57,460 --> 01:35:58,800
I don't want to be in a motion.

1153
01:35:59,380 --> 01:36:00,420
Make a motion again.

1154
01:36:00,940 --> 01:36:01,460
Well, I got it.

1155
01:36:02,380 --> 01:36:02,560
OK.

1156
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:03,980
So, Jeff.

1157
01:36:04,580 --> 01:36:04,800
Yeah.

1158
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:16,640
Jeff, my understanding of your motion was to obtain two beds through two separate companies regarding the scope and rights.

1159
01:36:18,830 --> 01:36:20,290
Direct staff to do that.

1160
01:36:21,170 --> 01:36:22,710
That's what I want.

1161
01:36:23,110 --> 01:36:23,810
Two separate beds.

1162
01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:25,350
We will.

1163
01:36:25,490 --> 01:36:26,590
And I'll leave.

1164
01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:27,730
Rob, no.

1165
01:36:27,930 --> 01:36:28,490
No.

1166
01:36:28,490 --> 01:36:29,190
No.

1167
01:36:30,430 --> 01:36:31,250
I'm sorry.

1168
01:36:31,450 --> 01:36:31,750
I don't know.

1169
01:36:32,210 --> 01:36:32,350
Okay.

1170
01:36:34,850 --> 01:36:35,910
That was great.

1171
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:37,410
Reaffirm what has stays.

1172
01:36:38,150 --> 01:36:39,430
And absolutely, that's what you want.

1173
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:40,090
That's what we'll do.

1174
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,620
So we have a motion in second.

1175
01:36:43,780 --> 01:36:45,560
Does everyone feel comfortable with that?

1176
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:45,840
All right.

1177
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,160
So let's go.

1178
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:48,020
And for me.

1179
01:36:48,580 --> 01:36:49,560
We're going to do a motion.

1180
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:50,340
Yes.

1181
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,640
All right.

1182
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:53,880
We have a motion in the second.

1183
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:55,160
All those in favor stay.

1184
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:56,000
All right.

1185
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:56,380
All right.

1186
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:57,240
Opposed.

1187
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:58,600
Motion here.

1188
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,400
All right.

1189
01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:00,120
Thank you, Mike.

1190
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,760
Let's move on to the finance report.

1191
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:04,000
Good evening, Marty.

1192
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:07,200
Good evening, Dan.

1193
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,760
We are going to introduce the council in January 2019.

1194
01:37:10,140 --> 01:37:13,220
The finance report expands.

1195
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,920
In January, a little under seven groups.

1196
01:37:17,140 --> 01:37:19,660
Six percent of our budget already.

1197
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,660
In January, the set includes building permits.

1198
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,280
Poor those who are new homes.

1199
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:28,200
And those who are new.

1200
01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:29,000
Thank you.

1201
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,680
the value of $15,000.

1202
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:38,140
These are the generated, collected through $1,000, $1,000, $1,000 in per week.

1203
01:37:46,330 --> 01:37:48,410
Waterfront collections, the J.D.

1204
01:37:48,410 --> 01:37:50,130
Where does the PINCET come from?

1205
01:37:50,150 --> 01:37:52,290
$1,600, $7,000.

1206
01:37:52,410 --> 01:37:55,730
That's a good lower $1,000,000, more than the past January.

1207
01:37:56,910 --> 01:38:00,370
More of funds, managers are off the national level.

1208
01:38:00,430 --> 01:38:02,050
$3,000.

1209
01:38:02,050 --> 01:38:05,510
And it's a lot of stuff where you can actually get to keep it on.

1210
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:11,730
So we're on a lecture today where we're on 70,000 consequences.

1211
01:38:13,170 --> 01:38:14,590
That's 16,000.

1212
01:38:14,690 --> 01:38:17,210
We're 52 over last year.

1213
01:38:17,730 --> 01:38:19,870
And so a bunch of things you're up over the last year.

1214
01:38:19,950 --> 01:38:21,230
I don't know if I'm going back a thousand.

1215
01:38:22,190 --> 01:38:26,050
And that is a very serious way that we, you know,

1216
01:38:27,210 --> 01:38:29,850
first year of principal for the interceptor function.

1217
01:38:30,830 --> 01:38:35,290
Some sort of funds, questions to the $1,000 from that box,

1218
01:38:35,690 --> 01:38:41,050
to increase the $4,000 last year, and the strong funds,

1219
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:43,750
so a fund expenditure is actually below the last year,

1220
01:38:43,810 --> 01:38:45,570
by $1,000 in the 18th house.

1221
01:38:49,180 --> 01:38:51,800
The cash address was created in the January,

1222
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,280
it was $5,000 in the 19th, $1,000.

1223
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:55,540
It's 3,000.

1224
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,260
That's a little under $1,4 million less than December

1225
01:39:00,260 --> 01:39:04,540
And as you wish each and every one of us,

1226
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,600
we have this super-spamies,

1227
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,920
very, very, very personal relationship.

1228
01:39:13,330 --> 01:39:14,110
Do you have any further questions?

1229
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:17,190
Council of any questions from Marty.

1230
01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:19,370
Thank you.

1231
01:39:22,540 --> 01:39:23,820
Thank you.

1232
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,280
All right.

1233
01:39:26,180 --> 01:39:30,000
Let's move on to ten and eight planners report.

1234
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,400
Good evening, Mr. Smith.

1235
01:39:32,220 --> 01:39:32,980
Thank you.

1236
01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:47,760
So I know it's hand A here is a cross for an interim use permit for a travel or a map that a principal use in this institute.

1237
01:39:48,220 --> 01:39:49,100
Social development.

1238
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:57,400
It is on the southeast corner of the section of Broadway in Cyprus.

1239
01:39:57,940 --> 01:39:59,960
Our applicant for addresses one-on-one.

1240
01:40:00,340 --> 01:40:07,600
October 13th, August 20th, August 22nd R Companies Regoat Illustration, who's not presiding this evening as stated as Public District

1241
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:13,240
is a receipt of a lot of your business sóting is simply a business to work. Today, we're all pretty familiar with this area.

1242
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,960
So, we're gonna kind of reynobressing on this information now

1243
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,740
so that we're not beATORY candidate.

1244
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:28,700
Okay, 30 seconds. So, what is nion theory? So, nion-p and a loudspear use just for Reptile period of time.

1245
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:32,000
that is actually not permitted within the district,

1246
01:40:33,820 --> 01:40:35,920
but within the development,

1247
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,700
may not be acceptable in the future,

1248
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,260
but for short time period,

1249
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,620
it would be appropriate for a particular district.

1250
01:40:45,700 --> 01:40:46,800
So as far as process,

1251
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:47,780
goes with IMPs.

1252
01:40:48,500 --> 01:40:49,800
It is the draft name, the Commission,

1253
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:50,420
the use permit.

1254
01:40:50,580 --> 01:40:51,820
So they host a public hearing.

1255
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,540
We all define all partners within three hundred and fifty

1256
01:40:55,540 --> 01:41:03,100
of the subject property, the public hearing, to place all of them right at the same time.

1257
01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:10,960
In the fall of 2018, City Council, I like that with the ordinance to allow for offsuit

1258
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:15,500
parking as opposed to use in the C2 through the use of an interim use permit.

1259
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,740
So that that zoning food amendment is actually requested by the Johns to allow them to use

1260
01:41:21,740 --> 01:41:27,760
The groups will cite as a parking lot after the dumb trouble with the building.

1261
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,400
So after that, amendment the council directed staff to look into other properties within the

1262
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:39,000
C2 and the grandmother department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department, department.

1263
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,120
And here we are with the bottom of Broadway street.

1264
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:51,720
So this parcel has been used as a rebel parking lot since between 2000-3000-3000 to oral and

1265
01:42:00,060 --> 01:42:01,720
That's the last thing.

1266
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:07,940
Yeah, so it's a bit of content with the property arm and they submitted it on the application.

1267
01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:11,200
And here we are today.

1268
01:42:11,460 --> 01:42:14,100
So this is a set of poster to look at the subject property.

1269
01:42:15,940 --> 01:42:16,100
I'm sorry.

1270
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:17,920
So, it's time to look.

1271
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:20,680
Here it is.

1272
01:42:21,380 --> 01:42:22,280
Actually, I'm going to back it.

1273
01:42:22,780 --> 01:42:26,960
So, the way cars are cars on the property.

1274
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,780
You can kind of see the northern property line.

1275
01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:34,100
You can see a car parked right there.

1276
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,000
That's typically how the line is.

1277
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:40,300
Probably line.

1278
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:46,250
How they're situated adjacent to the public right away.

1279
01:42:46,510 --> 01:42:46,590
Right?

1280
01:42:46,690 --> 01:42:49,750
So, you've got seconds straight there to the north.

1281
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:51,070
and then probably just

1282
01:43:22,110 --> 01:43:22,770
carving on.

1283
01:43:23,230 --> 01:43:24,590
The most root of these are our

1284
01:43:52,340 --> 01:43:52,700
grass.

1285
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:53,920
Just to give you a little context,

1286
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,060
looking at all the permanent directions.

1287
01:43:59,710 --> 01:44:01,230
East, east, east, east, east, east, east, east, west.

1288
01:44:05,290 --> 01:44:06,010
There's a single

1289
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,660
member of this request requirements.

1290
01:44:16,740 --> 01:44:20,500
Are that expires upon either the issues

1291
01:44:20,500 --> 01:44:23,280
of the building permit or two years of time.

1292
01:44:28,700 --> 01:44:30,220
Well, storage is not allowed on stage.

1293
01:44:30,340 --> 01:44:32,560
You know, displays, sales, rentals, or

1294
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:41,940
key and drainage.

1295
01:44:56,210 --> 01:44:59,970
As requirements were to be quite helpful, this path.

1296
01:45:03,380 --> 01:45:28,500
What is being proposed here is the reuse of a lot of lines, so walk from such church demolition. So the applicant is proposing to locate that block, be sure about, right where just one in order to pop a line, which is domain here, making red, because of the orientation of the parking site.

1297
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:41,640
So, Apple is also requesting that these blocks only stay in place between the months of, well, during the winter months.

1298
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:50,720
So, we start working hands, no November 15th to April 15th to cover that, but we'll get to that one a little bit.

1299
01:45:51,380 --> 01:45:52,440
Can I ask you a question?

1300
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:56,700
You're going to play black, sir, junk, and the parking.

1301
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,340
That's what is being requested.

1302
01:46:00,440 --> 01:46:02,040
Is there a height for this?

1303
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:02,540
Is there a height for this?

1304
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,040
If there's no height, we'll go back to the water from the deserts.

1305
01:46:06,180 --> 01:46:07,100
On the screen there.

1306
01:46:07,480 --> 01:46:09,160
Go back, go back to the pictures.

1307
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,180
So okay just that is a little barrier to learn from people.

1308
01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:13,700
And then people have the right to go back.

1309
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:14,680
For example.

1310
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:17,560
Oh I'm taking those with the soot on their forehead.

1311
01:46:17,620 --> 01:46:23,340
No, they're showing the pile of the sandstone from the...

1312
01:46:23,340 --> 01:46:24,800
I'm like that's okay.

1313
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:25,460
No.

1314
01:46:25,460 --> 01:46:34,060
No, no, I know what it looks like if not he was to use those stones which are located across the street as the parking barrier

1315
01:46:34,940 --> 01:46:37,340
I'm going on to the road

1316
01:46:37,340 --> 01:46:38,940
season recycle

1317
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:44,300
Okay, did I have looked at the picture?

1318
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,200
No, I'm okay. I did it when you see how you're dying that

1319
01:46:48,740 --> 01:46:49,860
mistake or

1320
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,980
Sorry, I'm right here

1321
01:46:55,480 --> 01:47:03,500
All right, so according to this on code, we have your specific criteria that you can be met in order for us to grant an IDP.

1322
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:15,100
They're all in your packet, and I'm not going to go through each one of them from their total vote, but staff found that they are indeed satisfied.

1323
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:20,480
And a client commission found the same as the regular meeting at the 12th of February.

1324
01:47:21,940 --> 01:47:29,100
The request approval, as long as the removal of this barrier doesn't bring any type of likelihood of a city.

1325
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,180
There's a sort of state in regard to that.

1326
01:47:32,300 --> 01:47:34,620
And staff didn't consult with the training with storm.

1327
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:39,780
We're going to pay a bet that's within the discussion about the city council too.

1328
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:48,560
to allow for a removal of a barrier during the summer months without any force you would like to do.

1329
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,720
Mike, I've got a couple of questions.

1330
01:47:57,010 --> 01:48:04,310
When he originally started his project over there, he bought the land for his building.

1331
01:48:04,690 --> 01:48:08,010
He was originally going to put building on that site, correct?

1332
01:48:09,630 --> 01:48:10,090
Yeah.

1333
01:48:10,090 --> 01:48:18,270
I think so. Yep. Yep. So now it's 15 years later. It's still like roughly 15 years later.

1334
01:48:19,110 --> 01:48:23,710
It's still a grab a parking lot with no pan up in the building up.

1335
01:48:27,260 --> 01:48:32,460
That we have seen as a city council or as the city staff.

1336
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:36,920
It's very fast in front of you. That's very fast for him to utilize the parking lot.

1337
01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:40,400
The principal used for at least the next two years.

1338
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:43,140
Go ahead, Jeremy.

1339
01:48:43,900 --> 01:48:46,400
I was here when this went down.

1340
01:48:47,220 --> 01:48:48,040
You know, four?

1341
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:48,720
You're away.

1342
01:48:48,980 --> 01:48:49,280
Well, three.

1343
01:48:49,580 --> 01:48:50,180
I was here.

1344
01:48:50,340 --> 01:48:51,600
My friends.

1345
01:48:52,020 --> 01:48:52,700
It's friends.

1346
01:48:53,220 --> 01:48:54,260
It's Jerry's house law.

1347
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:55,560
This is my house law.

1348
01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:57,000
This was not the house.

1349
01:48:57,300 --> 01:48:58,000
It was not the house.

1350
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,400
No, but it's tall tied to it.

1351
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:02,220
It's tall tied to the same project.

1352
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:07,020
At the time, we were excited because we're going to have building, business,

1353
01:49:07,540 --> 01:49:13,300
rent a lot on top it was a good thing at the time. A lot of promises were made. A lot of

1354
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:17,780
promises and none of the goals have seemed to come through and every time I

1355
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:22,580
drive to my house I see it staring at me and then we had a chance to fix that and

1356
01:49:22,580 --> 01:49:29,960
we did. So now we have a chance to fix this one and I'm not cool with the CUP.

1357
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:39,840
Quite frankly, I'm, I be sorry, and it drives me crazy that we've a lot of this long, and if

1358
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:45,260
he just intends to make it a parking lot, sell to the church and let them puked hard over it.

1359
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,860
I believe there's been, there's other things tied to it because of the frontier building,

1360
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,660
There's certain things you can't do or you can't dig.

1361
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,720
Something with the development is weird, it's affected because of the building that

1362
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:57,380
it's next to you.

1363
01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,960
Yeah, I think it would be a deal.

1364
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,080
Difficult for him to buy the frontier building and develop that old front.

1365
01:50:04,300 --> 01:50:08,540
Yes, there's something with the building can't go away because there's stuff tied to that camera.

1366
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:10,460
Yeah, they have a lot of futility in there.

1367
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:15,920
But I personally, I'm not sure how to type a hit. We even have a chance to get more teeth

1368
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:23,400
or what you can even do at this point. But the whole fact that it's been 15 isn't to me, it's not an argument to allow it.

1369
01:50:23,500 --> 01:50:28,140
Like, hey, it's been this way long, I'm just keeping it. No, the fact that it's been that long is exactly the way you shouldn't.

1370
01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:30,680
And what are you going to do with this thing?

1371
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,640
It's like a main street in Jordan.

1372
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:33,380
Main class.

1373
01:50:34,020 --> 01:50:39,880
So the reason why it's here is because the school got toward us.

1374
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,980
So now what's going to happen is if you want to make this one a tart parking lot, we're

1375
01:50:43,980 --> 01:50:47,520
got to turn around and tell St. John, they got to park, they got to tar there as two.

1376
01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:48,580
We already gave it to them.

1377
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:53,520
They're the ones that initiated all of this by the, by the, by the, by the, I'm not

1378
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:53,680
cool.

1379
01:50:53,780 --> 01:50:54,680
Keep them out on tar.

1380
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:55,840
They're gravel either.

1381
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:56,400
I don't.

1382
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:00,840
I'm granted, but I'm just one month's versus 15 years.

1383
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,000
It doesn't make it a difference how long it has been there

1384
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:05,660
actually on the rules or rules.

1385
01:51:05,860 --> 01:51:07,820
I know, I'm just saying that it has been,

1386
01:51:07,820 --> 01:51:10,340
it was there for 16 years, but I'm just saying

1387
01:51:10,340 --> 01:51:13,260
if you want him to carve this thing,

1388
01:51:13,660 --> 01:51:14,760
then we're going to have to go back and make

1389
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,200
say John's Tarlers too.

1390
01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:18,240
So I'm just saying, I mean,

1391
01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:20,120
but if you don't want to say John's Tarlers,

1392
01:51:21,260 --> 01:51:22,820
I mean, this is his own private law.

1393
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,980
He's not charging rent to the church.

1394
01:51:24,980 --> 01:51:29,760
You know I agree with Jeff, but at the same time while they're the same, they're also not the same.

1395
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:34,660
If I buy a building and say, look, I need a little bit of time to market this thing and try to sell it.

1396
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:36,000
That's fine, brand new.

1397
01:51:36,740 --> 01:51:37,740
The other one?

1398
01:51:38,340 --> 01:51:40,380
Can't say that because they've had it for 15 years.

1399
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:43,220
Well, it has no intention of doing anything with it.

1400
01:51:43,460 --> 01:51:47,000
And I had we not forced him to apply for this hue and tap.

1401
01:51:47,300 --> 01:51:48,740
We didn't force him to.

1402
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,880
We did by ordinance because we're doing nice to the church.

1403
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,700
We totally didn't think he needed to apply for one and we kind of said, yes, you do.

1404
01:51:56,020 --> 01:51:58,580
Well, the reason why is because we were nice to the church.

1405
01:52:01,930 --> 01:52:02,810
Yeah, yes, and no.

1406
01:52:03,090 --> 01:52:08,370
We'll be able to believe that we gave them time to figure out what to do with that.

1407
01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:11,210
But you don't ever lose your, you don't ever lose your team.

1408
01:52:11,390 --> 01:52:13,830
You lose your team for the period of time that you said.

1409
01:52:14,090 --> 01:52:14,970
So if you said it for two

1410
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,940
years, you are today.

1411
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:20,780
As you were last for two years.

1412
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,780
The promise what's happened is that things turn over and people change.

1413
01:52:25,780 --> 01:52:28,300
You're like, oh okay, yeah, let's be reasonable with the guy.

1414
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:34,240
So, let's spend this because I don't want to utter an automatic review on it if you want to or however you want to call it.

1415
01:52:34,340 --> 01:52:40,760
We don't, we don't automatically, it's already got the sunset, but presumably you could have an automatic review so it's going to come up in two years.

1416
01:52:41,260 --> 01:52:50,720
One of the things that I think that this complicit gets rid of is if you do this, I think you have Asian-made, that's

1417
01:52:54,530 --> 01:52:58,210
sort of the argument that you've allowed this for 15 years and not.

1418
01:52:58,210 --> 01:53:01,090
What you say is, yeah, I agree. I'm not inclined.

1419
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,180
We're forcing him to say that.

1420
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,030
But nonetheless, he's applied for the permit years.

1421
01:53:11,210 --> 01:53:14,670
There's no argument whether or not he's grandfathered in or not

1422
01:53:14,670 --> 01:53:17,490
taking all the window out of the sales that argument for

1423
01:53:21,780 --> 01:53:22,540
a lot of fees

1424
01:53:22,540 --> 01:53:26,240
and a lot of time and expense of having him.

1425
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:29,100
He's an attorney, so let's just say his legal fees aren't expensive.

1426
01:53:30,220 --> 01:53:33,780
What he's going to put in all these blocks, then are going to be able to be moved.

1427
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:35,180
Those are big blocks.

1428
01:53:35,380 --> 01:53:36,120
No, you lost.

1429
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:44,780
I, so one of the things I've had, part of the time since the planning commission meeting, is on the blocks, the blocks would be able to be moved.

1430
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:49,860
But when he's asking for his to move then to be able to follow the block as it sits.

1431
01:53:51,060 --> 01:53:57,440
Because otherwise, essentially the walking path that gets used is going to have folders in front of it.

1432
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:02,460
So he's asked to move that to that purpose during the winter, because then I want to have to follow around that.

1433
01:54:02,460 --> 01:54:05,540
or have people trip over with your cover with snow.

1434
01:54:06,620 --> 01:54:07,600
That was his argument.

1435
01:54:07,860 --> 01:54:09,000
That was one of the other concerns.

1436
01:54:10,340 --> 01:54:14,580
To me that piece of it, I have a little bit more of a hard time

1437
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:18,800
with when I reflect upon that a little bit more because

1438
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,460
to me it just seems like another thing that

1439
01:54:22,140 --> 01:54:26,660
isn't necessarily committed per the code that we're now going to

1440
01:54:26,660 --> 01:54:29,420
make an exception or a change or if that's anything.

1441
01:54:29,420 --> 01:54:35,800
So I think the requirement is if I keep requires that it requires if you're around it's no different than anybody else

1442
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:43,760
Everybody has to figure out how to pull around their parking barriers and the same thing is you can't save all the parking barriers

1443
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,680
We're gonna cost me so much money so not of course to use these stones

1444
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:50,880
But yet the stones are gonna make it so that people are gonna potentially trip during the winter

1445
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,940
I mean it's a self creative problem

1446
01:54:53,980 --> 01:54:59,000
If you wanted to put in the parking barriers like normally with you put in we get that there's a

1447
01:54:59,000 --> 01:54:59,960
and cast them.

1448
01:55:00,210 --> 01:55:30,090
I think he said the 251er box to put in those meant ones, and that this is a free way to do it. But if that's what you'll like to do, quite frankly, I think the stone will look better than a regular parking barrier. It's no different. We put in live stone at park. We put in live stone at a baseball field. You know, driving by and seeing live stone at the edge of it, you know, doing nice square stones from the building is going to look better than driving by and seeing either of these yellow cement paint,

1449
01:55:30,090 --> 01:55:35,410
blocks or that type of thing at the edge of the gravity to me it's just whether or not to get

1450
01:55:35,410 --> 01:55:41,270
moved or not. So. So I have the question at the Planning Commission if you gave them the two years

1451
01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:49,270
what is this plan? So what are we buying time for? Well you buy the White House that's on the

1452
01:55:49,970 --> 01:55:57,670
east side of the property going up towards 282. So potentially he could look at doing something that

1453
01:55:57,670 --> 01:56:04,270
that he said it wrong before is that the lot wasn't big enough to do building on.

1454
01:56:04,690 --> 01:56:09,870
But the number one thing that I think that we get is we get the cessation of this argument

1455
01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:13,810
that it's grandfather that we've allowed it for too long or any of that.

1456
01:56:13,930 --> 01:56:18,270
And I think that's a really big thing that everybody should really consider taking a look at

1457
01:56:18,270 --> 01:56:21,110
for another two years when we play it over 15.

1458
01:56:22,370 --> 01:56:26,510
It gets rid of that argument and it gets rid of if in two years you decide you don't want

1459
01:56:26,510 --> 01:56:30,410
do it, he's already dealt with the issue of, he's essentially agreeing that it's not

1460
01:56:30,410 --> 01:56:34,830
in compliance. And so that's a huge piece to me.

1461
01:56:35,570 --> 01:56:41,610
Yeah, and the hope is that in the two years that he does come up with a plan to read, we have

1462
01:56:41,610 --> 01:56:48,590
the site. He said he has plans for it, but this is supposed to be the push that gets

1463
01:56:49,990 --> 01:56:58,510
So, the two years that we, we as the Plan and Commission recommended was, is that we took

1464
01:56:58,510 --> 01:57:04,310
his concerns about the block and the ease of some removal and the possibility of people

1465
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:06,770
tripping over it in snow banks and stuff like that.

1466
01:57:07,410 --> 01:57:11,770
We took that in consideration, we said, okay, tell you what, if you want to take them all

1467
01:57:11,770 --> 01:57:16,810
during winter time, let's try it, because it would be the same as what it is now, and

1468
01:57:16,810 --> 01:57:22,310
always complaining about the way it is now, that it's not being paid at all, but it's

1469
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:23,970
no removal of that type of stuff.

1470
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:30,890
And then we agree, at the end of two years, if we decided that it's not working, we want

1471
01:57:30,890 --> 01:57:36,270
those parking retainers back in place, we can do it, or if the applies are really permit

1472
01:57:36,270 --> 01:57:39,090
that it becomes no-lamboyant all the way above.

1473
01:57:39,330 --> 01:57:44,530
I mean, I guess it is sort of a emotional argument, because the other thing that I was kind

1474
01:57:44,530 --> 01:57:49,390
it shouldn't have bearing but it does but he has a charge of the church of dying for

1475
01:57:49,390 --> 01:57:54,350
party pays his taxes on it. He's actually, you know, in a way, he could just put a

1476
01:57:54,350 --> 01:57:58,690
fence or on the whole thing and nobody really knew it. I don't think that he can do it.

1477
01:57:58,710 --> 01:58:02,630
When he could, as he has to have it, so it's open for parking for the Jordan Center.

1478
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:06,710
If that was the initial requirements, he didn't have an apartment's box at the Jordan Center,

1479
01:58:06,850 --> 01:58:09,830
so it was a lot of the situation for that. But he could keep it.

1480
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:12,630
Can you get so that, yeah, I don't church park any of you carry any of that.

1481
01:58:12,710 --> 01:58:13,990
Right, I mean, I'm just...

1482
01:58:13,990 --> 01:58:19,330
I mean, but the argument that it doesn't provide a benefit, it provides a benefit that

1483
01:58:19,330 --> 01:58:22,770
he now has at the parking for his Jordan.

1484
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:23,690
No, no, it's his property.

1485
01:58:23,970 --> 01:58:25,370
I want to develop it at some point.

1486
01:58:25,370 --> 01:58:25,890
No, I know.

1487
01:58:25,890 --> 01:58:29,650
The future he also has to come and say, OK, I'm getting rid of my parking.

1488
01:58:29,730 --> 01:58:34,190
That is at the Jordan Center to do this building and we'd have to grant him the ability

1489
01:58:34,190 --> 01:58:35,050
to do that.

1490
01:58:36,110 --> 01:58:36,830
I don't disagree.

1491
01:58:36,890 --> 01:58:37,970
I'm going to spoke of it.

1492
01:58:37,970 --> 01:58:39,130
Most things have been to the church.

1493
01:58:39,330 --> 01:58:39,730
What I meant.

1494
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:40,190
Yeah.

1495
01:58:40,190 --> 01:58:44,090
that he's not getting nothing for nothing financial.

1496
01:58:44,270 --> 01:58:47,090
That's what I was trying to say is so.

1497
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:50,330
So that was the discussion we had a planning commission

1498
01:58:50,330 --> 01:58:52,110
was just simply about moving the blocks.

1499
01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:54,570
And like I said, if it doesn't work to yours, no,

1500
01:58:54,670 --> 01:58:55,850
it's got to be going to put him back in.

1501
01:58:56,230 --> 01:59:00,310
But if he needed this parking lot for a Jordan Center,

1502
01:59:00,850 --> 01:59:01,990
I'm kind of baffled by it.

1503
01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:04,650
I don't recall the time why we never made him target.

1504
01:59:06,410 --> 01:59:12,970
And the chapter one still showed that the Jewish nation has come to the parliament, would be used as this law.

1505
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:15,150
So it doesn't show that.

1506
01:59:15,750 --> 01:59:17,310
Who Ravi said?

1507
01:59:17,950 --> 01:59:19,130
The chapter one saw her about that.

1508
01:59:19,690 --> 01:59:20,930
So he could be rid of it.

1509
01:59:22,190 --> 01:59:22,830
If you wanted to.

1510
01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:26,270
Without a negative belief, that is partying for the argument.

1511
01:59:27,210 --> 01:59:28,010
So he could.

1512
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:35,530
I heard from he, he is indicating that he left that meeting or that commission meeting or

1513
01:59:35,530 --> 01:59:45,170
me, with the impression that it was okay and it was permitted for him to utilize that for

1514
01:59:45,170 --> 01:59:50,870
parking floor as you're in the center but in the on the record that that's not shot.

1515
01:59:51,150 --> 01:59:55,430
So it was it was okay that he could utilize it but it wasn't required because my understanding

1516
01:59:55,430 --> 01:59:59,230
was different than my understanding was that that was a compromise because he didn't have enough

1517
01:59:59,230 --> 01:59:59,970
parking when it was built.

1518
02:00:00,110 --> 02:00:11,090
And that the grab a lot was the kind of recent compromise of saying, well, now you have enough parking, because you have this grab a lot that you can park people at for the Jordan Center.

1519
02:00:11,350 --> 02:00:16,430
The only thing that the conversation didn't take place was that he, he's stated that it did.

1520
02:00:16,770 --> 02:00:20,870
What I think is that it's off the minutes and the separate courts don't work with that.

1521
02:00:21,310 --> 02:00:24,910
So as far as the research that South is being able to do, it's not...

1522
02:00:24,910 --> 02:00:28,910
I can't imagine that with that it was required, because if it was, we would have made him

1523
02:00:28,910 --> 02:00:33,430
tired at the same time, he'd tired the other one and curb the gutter and all that requirements

1524
02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:36,430
that we made him do on the other one, but can't imagine we'd say, okay, but you could make

1525
02:00:36,430 --> 02:00:37,090
that ground.

1526
02:00:37,850 --> 02:00:39,470
Well, we would have never agreed to that.

1527
02:00:39,610 --> 02:00:41,570
It was already gravel before the last one.

1528
02:00:41,670 --> 02:00:47,070
Yeah, because they moved all the buildings and we agreed to allowing him to move the buildings.

1529
02:00:47,250 --> 02:00:51,990
But I'm saying, if we were made him count this as parking, we wouldn't have said, okay, keep

1530
02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:52,410
that ground.

1531
02:00:52,410 --> 02:00:57,410
Will it also be never allowed parking as a principal use in the C2?

1532
02:00:57,630 --> 02:00:57,890
No.

1533
02:00:58,210 --> 02:01:00,590
Has the EDA ever reached out to the possibility?

1534
02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:07,210
Because I know they've looked at buying gravel lads, lots trying to mark it on whatever we were talking.

1535
02:01:07,530 --> 02:01:10,730
To him, I'm going to take you in off the stands if he doesn't want to develop it.

1536
02:01:11,490 --> 02:01:14,790
He is indicated that he wants to develop it.

1537
02:01:14,910 --> 02:01:17,370
He has never said that he doesn't want to develop this long.

1538
02:01:17,390 --> 02:01:19,890
But he's been 15 plus years.

1539
02:01:19,890 --> 02:01:26,290
Yeah, you're assuming, you're assuming that by the pace of the development, but he still wants to develop.

1540
02:01:28,390 --> 02:01:30,510
He just recently fought the neighboring property.

1541
02:01:31,130 --> 02:01:32,330
So, I mean, at least that's...

1542
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:36,540
He's making movement on it.

1543
02:01:42,430 --> 02:01:42,850
That's a friend.

1544
02:01:43,690 --> 02:01:43,970
Thank you.

1545
02:01:44,190 --> 02:01:47,310
I just wanted to clarify something with regards to...

1546
02:01:48,050 --> 02:01:54,110
There is a, there is a right up where it indicated that there was some discussions with regards to...

1547
02:01:54,110 --> 02:02:02,030
parking in the Jordan Center, but there was never any console action taken associated with it.

1548
02:02:02,730 --> 02:02:08,830
Or we'd find any document indicating that that indeed was

1549
02:02:11,900 --> 02:02:14,840
agreed to fulfill that.

1550
02:02:17,690 --> 02:02:25,910
So that's in polite conversations with Mr. Trudeau. We discussed that as well.

1551
02:02:25,910 --> 02:02:27,850
And I just wanted

1552
02:02:30,340 --> 02:02:33,120
to let it work and develop that life because it's not recording.

1553
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,180
Yes, it cuts both ways.

1554
02:02:44,620 --> 02:02:50,410
With regards to ability to leave it as a...

1555
02:03:03,950 --> 02:03:06,950
So, a quick question doesn't have to be two years.

1556
02:03:08,010 --> 02:03:08,290
A recording?

1557
02:03:09,810 --> 02:03:12,130
So, could we do it one year?

1558
02:03:21,010 --> 02:03:22,990
Was it discussed at Planning Commission by James?

1559
02:03:23,170 --> 02:03:23,690
We did not.

1560
02:03:24,110 --> 02:03:28,010
We could talk a lot of one year because of the staff was recommended to two year.

1561
02:03:28,010 --> 02:03:34,510
And then we were talking about going through a cycle with the block.

1562
02:03:34,610 --> 02:03:38,790
This is an idea of block because obviously he's not going through the amount of his work through one winter.

1563
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:43,230
So, this coming year into 2019 would have been like the first time we have bought it.

1564
02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:51,310
And then when you realize two years from now, we have one season to see if it was working or not.

1565
02:03:51,310 --> 02:03:55,490
And if it didn't work, then we can make adjustments on the next two year IP.

1566
02:03:55,490 --> 02:03:58,790
he asked, it's not automatic, he asked to come in and reapply.

1567
02:03:59,490 --> 02:04:02,290
So if we want to make modifications or changes at that time,

1568
02:04:02,930 --> 02:04:04,750
that's what we did that.

1569
02:04:05,470 --> 02:04:06,950
Could we make it a one year?

1570
02:04:07,090 --> 02:04:09,550
I don't want to see the block there, because the block's

1571
02:04:09,550 --> 02:04:10,490
never going to leave.

1572
02:04:11,170 --> 02:04:13,830
And it's going to stay at a gravel parking lot.

1573
02:04:14,070 --> 02:04:16,970
It's going to look like not so nice.

1574
02:04:17,330 --> 02:04:19,210
And I can see it'll be continued.

1575
02:04:19,790 --> 02:04:21,870
It'll just be a continued parking lot

1576
02:04:21,870 --> 02:04:25,450
because now it has this bill blocked.

1577
02:04:26,170 --> 02:04:27,970
So I don't know if you're understanding correctly

1578
02:04:27,970 --> 02:04:29,650
with these blocks out of it, it's just a barrier

1579
02:04:29,650 --> 02:04:30,610
to keep the cars from going to the other side.

1580
02:04:30,610 --> 02:04:31,790
Yeah, I don't want her there.

1581
02:04:32,110 --> 02:04:34,010
Well, no, that's one of the conditions.

1582
02:04:34,490 --> 02:04:35,670
We were demanding that.

1583
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:37,690
I don't want anything there, because that's

1584
02:04:37,690 --> 02:04:39,590
going to keep that a parking lot.

1585
02:04:39,950 --> 02:04:41,190
I don't want anything there.

1586
02:04:42,070 --> 02:04:44,190
If we're going to give him one year to figure out

1587
02:04:44,190 --> 02:04:45,750
what he's going to do with his plans.

1588
02:04:46,490 --> 02:04:48,290
Give him one year to figure out what you're

1589
02:04:48,290 --> 02:04:49,670
going to do in theory, they're going to build something.

1590
02:04:49,870 --> 02:04:51,310
You're going to blow down that other house.

1591
02:04:51,310 --> 02:04:58,710
I don't care what you do. I don't want to put anything more existing there. That's gonna maintain that as a gravel parking lot.

1592
02:04:58,930 --> 02:04:59,890
That's our codes required.

1593
02:05:03,090 --> 02:05:13,790
And I don't think that those stones are going to be a barrier to development. If you want to see how fast those stones got moved, I mean, same job, two days, if they want to go blocks, they're going to move blocks.

1594
02:05:15,250 --> 02:05:16,530
I think it looked nice.

1595
02:05:16,550 --> 02:05:18,810
Just like he's going to put something on that parking lot.

1596
02:05:19,170 --> 02:05:22,770
If this is approved, it'll look much nicer with the blocks than without the blocks.

1597
02:05:23,390 --> 02:05:25,870
But now you're going to take a parking lot.

1598
02:05:25,870 --> 02:05:28,610
But to be moving that block,

1599
02:05:29,290 --> 02:05:30,870
everybody lets you really think,

1600
02:05:31,110 --> 02:05:32,630
yeah, I don't have it for a year to live.

1601
02:05:32,630 --> 02:05:35,430
No, he's gonna, I'm with you on that.

1602
02:05:35,610 --> 02:05:37,190
There's just, that's not gonna happen.

1603
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:38,850
Who said, you could hire enough kids

1604
02:05:38,850 --> 02:05:41,010
to go lift all the blocks back and forth.

1605
02:05:41,530 --> 02:05:42,330
That's ridiculous.

1606
02:05:42,670 --> 02:05:44,890
As long as the church allows them,

1607
02:05:44,910 --> 02:05:46,570
as long as he's allowed them to use it

1608
02:05:46,570 --> 02:05:48,910
for the church, the church is the one that's being

1609
02:05:48,910 --> 02:05:49,410
in the plow.

1610
02:05:49,630 --> 02:05:52,850
So his idea is that essentially he doesn't want that

1611
02:05:52,850 --> 02:05:54,450
to go away with being my guest.

1612
02:05:54,450 --> 02:05:59,070
more and more he does it with the block he had said he would be moving the stones off of the side

1613
02:05:59,070 --> 02:06:00,450
he's doing it

1614
02:06:00,450 --> 02:06:01,330
he's the one that falls

1615
02:06:02,050 --> 02:06:02,530
okay

1616
02:06:03,870 --> 02:06:04,350
um...

1617
02:06:04,350 --> 02:06:05,510
just me just the

1618
02:06:06,110 --> 02:06:08,430
we were going on a limb with the block

1619
02:06:08,430 --> 02:06:09,670
he had to block well

1620
02:06:09,670 --> 02:06:13,230
if you put parking barriers and you put block it it didn't make a difference

1621
02:06:13,230 --> 02:06:17,330
he just decided to use the blocks a it was free and be it looks nice of an

1622
02:06:17,330 --> 02:06:20,150
parking barriers which is required by code

1623
02:06:20,870 --> 02:06:23,830
okay so we didn't have no no wiggle room on that

1624
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:30,070
But we did allow him is because he was concerned that they were going to make it harder to plow.

1625
02:06:30,410 --> 02:06:35,590
We allowed him for being able to take and move them to the corners that we were plowing easier.

1626
02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:37,710
And people didn't trip over it.

1627
02:06:38,590 --> 02:06:41,730
That's what we were looking at.

1628
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:43,950
So there's not blocks on pallet.

1629
02:06:44,170 --> 02:06:46,910
It's like a stone that's...

1630
02:06:46,910 --> 02:06:51,330
I believe it'll look nicer, but you could take a move off and on.

1631
02:06:51,330 --> 02:06:52,790
That's why it would happen.

1632
02:06:52,930 --> 02:06:53,650
But you don't want it.

1633
02:06:53,670 --> 02:06:54,690
It's only a year or two thing.

1634
02:06:54,850 --> 02:06:55,770
You want to see our goals.

1635
02:06:56,070 --> 02:06:56,910
And then we can make a decision.

1636
02:06:57,310 --> 02:06:58,010
That's what we basically do.

1637
02:06:58,010 --> 02:06:59,250
We can make it here.

1638
02:06:59,750 --> 02:07:00,270
Well, I'm Bill.

1639
02:07:00,370 --> 02:07:01,590
And that's what I was talking about.

1640
02:07:01,790 --> 02:07:03,370
It's when I was reflecting upon it.

1641
02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:06,270
It seems to me that if we prior the parking area to be in place.

1642
02:07:06,430 --> 02:07:08,890
We should just require it to be in place all the time.

1643
02:07:09,010 --> 02:07:09,870
That's it.

1644
02:07:10,070 --> 02:07:13,410
And instead of making another car belt exception, you know.

1645
02:07:14,450 --> 02:07:17,930
Sometimes, people that aren't so good at following what the rules say.

1646
02:07:19,890 --> 02:07:24,150
What if you sold that? What if the next guy? What if you were I bought that product?

1647
02:07:24,250 --> 02:07:27,890
You'd like like, what the hell I keep on so far into here? I have to do those blocks every

1648
02:07:27,890 --> 02:07:31,090
so many bugs? No, no, no, no.

1649
02:07:32,250 --> 02:07:36,650
It's gone once the changes use is correct.

1650
02:07:39,150 --> 02:07:44,310
IUP disappears on sale of the property or use.

1651
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:44,830
or

1652
02:07:48,090 --> 02:07:49,010
two years,

1653
02:07:54,730 --> 02:08:00,010
which I want to shorten that time frame for the members,

1654
02:08:02,830 --> 02:08:03,690
it is up to the council.

1655
02:08:04,370 --> 02:08:07,050
I think it's very useful.

1656
02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:09,110
Let me, let me get the straight though.

1657
02:08:09,410 --> 02:08:13,490
You got to have a parking barrier regardless of your route correct?

1658
02:08:13,970 --> 02:08:18,050
The cost dates, date, physical barrier to prevent vehicle and project.

1659
02:08:19,610 --> 02:08:20,370
You're around.

1660
02:08:20,410 --> 02:08:22,830
We do not define the duration.

1661
02:08:23,050 --> 02:08:26,910
We also do not define what we're looking for in the local area.

1662
02:08:26,910 --> 02:08:34,070
But tell us if we've got to have one there, that's to tell you how long it is but it's telling you you've got to have one there

1663
02:08:34,070 --> 02:08:40,910
So even put the rocks the blocks there and leave them there and for one year, that's it

1664
02:08:43,050 --> 02:08:47,830
Can we make a motion with resolution 2-11 2019?

1665
02:08:48,370 --> 02:08:55,650
I hope you've forgot a parking lot in the C2 that expires in one year

1666
02:08:55,650 --> 02:09:01,990
with your blocks that do not get removed, they stay there the entire year.

1667
02:09:02,070 --> 02:09:04,390
Or other barriers get put in place on the line.

1668
02:09:04,730 --> 02:09:04,950
Yes.

1669
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:06,730
Do I have a second?

1670
02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:07,990
All second, then.

1671
02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:10,570
All right, I need this question.

1672
02:09:10,790 --> 02:09:12,330
That year, from today, we're going to

1673
02:09:20,970 --> 02:09:21,130
make sure.

1674
02:09:21,190 --> 02:09:23,630
Well, here's the thing, you've got to put parking barriers there.

1675
02:09:23,790 --> 02:09:27,530
Then you're going to, in regards to the parking barriers are going to be there, whether

1676
02:09:27,530 --> 02:09:33,250
it would be a block or a curving paid at yellow that they have to walk over.

1677
02:09:33,250 --> 02:09:38,950
So let's make the year from April to April, because by then there's not, it's not to be.

1678
02:09:41,070 --> 02:09:42,270
Do you agree with that?

1679
02:09:42,450 --> 02:09:43,550
I'll move to a perfect.

1680
02:09:46,270 --> 02:09:47,530
There's a, is that okay?

1681
02:09:48,370 --> 02:09:50,670
All right, so I have a motion and a second.

1682
02:09:51,770 --> 02:09:57,870
So resolution 2-11, 2019, IUP for gravel parking lot, I'm going to see you two with changes.

1683
02:09:58,610 --> 02:09:59,950
Exploration from one year.

1684
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:18,680
We're starting April 2019 to 2020 and maintaining that brick block, church block, whatever the blocks call, maintaining it there for the whole entire time for barrier, or whatever barriers they're using for parking, he has a choice.

1685
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,120
I get some chance.

1686
02:10:20,740 --> 02:10:25,500
The answer to one other thing that I'm going to be done is that it seems to me that there's two right

1687
02:10:25,500 --> 02:10:28,620
away to here and right now the current proposal only covers one.

1688
02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:35,280
I get it that is argument this traditionally people aren't parking on the Bradley side

1689
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,180
of the street versus this week and two side of the street.

1690
02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:43,420
But it would seem to me that you want to have barriers on all because there's no parking lines.

1691
02:10:43,620 --> 02:10:48,340
There's no guarantee how people are going to park any of that.

1692
02:10:48,340 --> 02:10:50,420
I'm not trying to throw that wrench in at last minute,

1693
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:53,180
but if somebody wanted to amend it with that, I just think of it.

1694
02:10:53,180 --> 02:10:55,860
Okay, I'll amend that and include that on top of it.

1695
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:57,120
Do you have that?

1696
02:10:58,880 --> 02:10:59,440
All right.

1697
02:10:59,440 --> 02:10:59,700
Yeah.

1698
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:01,440
It's good to go with that.

1699
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:02,560
All right.

1700
02:11:02,700 --> 02:11:04,380
So we have a motion in a second.

1701
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:06,300
Yes, Brian.

1702
02:11:07,380 --> 02:11:07,820
Sorry.

1703
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,680
I just want your April April.

1704
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:11,480
Yes.

1705
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:16,680
I would suggest that it would be effective as it now

1706
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,580
if it gets passed through a date or surgery?

1707
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:23,140
Okay, three or four days.

1708
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:27,660
Two days of, 1, 2,000 or two, one.

1709
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:29,760
April 30th, whatever.

1710
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:31,920
Let's make it at the end of the month.

1711
02:11:32,180 --> 02:11:33,760
It's kind of weird in the middle.

1712
02:11:36,430 --> 02:11:36,610
Okay.

1713
02:11:37,250 --> 02:11:38,390
Devon, don't get with that?

1714
02:11:39,150 --> 02:11:39,990
All right, so we have one more.

1715
02:11:39,990 --> 02:11:40,470
We'll be done, Mark.

1716
02:11:40,590 --> 02:11:40,830
We will.

1717
02:11:41,170 --> 02:11:41,530
We'll be done.

1718
02:11:42,350 --> 02:11:44,010
All those in favor say aye.

1719
02:11:44,230 --> 02:11:44,730
Aye.

1720
02:11:45,350 --> 02:11:45,850
Opposed?

1721
02:11:46,390 --> 02:11:46,790
You're secured.

1722
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:56,650
Any other properties that you found during this process that need to be used for this purpose?

1723
02:11:57,950 --> 02:12:04,550
We did kind of the properties that appear to be a travel parking on this principle use,

1724
02:12:04,910 --> 02:12:10,950
but due for the research, they're connected to properties or they are their own property,

1725
02:12:11,150 --> 02:12:14,870
but we don't have any property when that is began.

1726
02:12:15,550 --> 02:12:20,410
And so we need to be sure that, you know, let's start because I need to trace that protocol.

1727
02:12:26,170 --> 02:12:27,890
All right, thank you, Lucinda.

1728
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,460
Let's move on to please support the EU team.

1729
02:12:33,860 --> 02:12:33,980
Ready?

1730
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:35,520
Good evening, man.

1731
02:12:35,660 --> 02:12:36,620
Mayor and council.

1732
02:12:36,740 --> 02:12:38,860
I think this will be a little bit quicker, I hope.

1733
02:12:40,540 --> 02:12:43,980
First item is just the January 2019, please report.

1734
02:12:44,900 --> 02:12:47,960
Stats are for your view and comments only.

1735
02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:52,480
If you want from your year, what 11 crimes will or for the last year,

1736
02:12:52,780 --> 02:12:53,700
final stats,

1737
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:56,860
call for service and crimes, both,

1738
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:58,920
round one non-relator test as well.

1739
02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:01,220
Give me questions that we have to answer.

1740
02:13:02,220 --> 02:13:04,880
So on the two columns, and you have all of January 2019,

1741
02:13:05,140 --> 02:13:07,440
and the other one you have 2018, is that the whole year?

1742
02:13:07,540 --> 02:13:08,340
It's just a month of June.

1743
02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:10,240
Yes, it's just a month of June. Thank you.

1744
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:14,960
Any other questions?

1745
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:24,700
All right, thank you, Chief.

1746
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:26,600
Let's move on to B.

1747
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:33,500
I don't be as a request for an additional handicapped parking stall on the 200-block of

1748
02:13:33,500 --> 02:13:38,060
these first week by Total Health and Advantage. They're located on the north east side

1749
02:13:38,060 --> 02:13:43,120
of that block, right across from City Hall and here's the Broadway Market parking lot.

1750
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:51,480
They cite that they have a probably higher than average frequency of individuals with handicapped

1751
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:57,940
frequent their business, due to their being a care practic in the size, based business.

1752
02:13:58,620 --> 02:14:02,660
Currently, the downtown we do need to EDA requirements for the number of parking

1753
02:14:02,660 --> 02:14:07,760
stalls that we have. There's one handicap parking stall right now on that

1754
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:12,720
block, what it's on the far north west side of the block, here's Rice Street.

1755
02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:17,720
So, the occupants are the patrons of Toilet Health Vantage. I should say I have to

1756
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:21,280
on at the far west side and walk the entire block down to get to their business.

1757
02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:25,520
We brought this request to the safety committee.

1758
02:14:26,020 --> 02:14:30,860
The end of last month had the discussion that we're having now for the most part.

1759
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:37,400
We felt it was a prudent and reasonable request given the fact that they do probably

1760
02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:41,860
and all like we would have a higher frequency of visitors, patrons who have handicaps.

1761
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:45,940
We did also send to all of the businesses within that block,

1762
02:14:45,940 --> 02:14:51,760
letter explaining that we will be brings the council for discussion and potential approval

1763
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:58,920
as for feedback and receive none. So with that physically I estimate about $200 for a

1764
02:14:58,920 --> 02:14:59,820
and fall wins.

1765
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,920
violation by our public works department.

1766
02:15:05,980 --> 02:15:29,980
No curb work would need to be done because the eastern, north, eastern parking stall, a bus, the curb cut that's already there for, for Broadway market. So they would exit, generally, if I can't even kept ban, pulls in, they genuinely exit off the right side of that ban. It was just roll up, if need be, under the sidewalk there. So with that, I would, I would,

1767
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:34,060
for a motion to approve the installation. I want additional handicapped parking

1768
02:15:34,060 --> 02:15:39,560
saw on North Eastern most parking saw in the 200 block of East First Street, as

1769
02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:46,440
shown within the photo's attached with right up. I'd like to make a motion go ahead

1770
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:51,880
and do an additional handicapped parking spot. I'm going to have a motion go ahead a second.

1771
02:15:52,220 --> 02:15:56,020
It's all second and there are questions. Go ahead. Did you get a chance to talk to

1772
02:15:56,020 --> 02:15:58,920
You can see if they were okay with that spot.

1773
02:15:58,940 --> 02:15:59,760
I guess they were.

1774
02:16:00,420 --> 02:16:02,040
They were very happy with that.

1775
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:05,840
They understood that the curve cut and not potential wheelchair issues.

1776
02:16:05,980 --> 02:16:06,280
Excellent.

1777
02:16:07,540 --> 02:16:08,500
Thank you.

1778
02:16:08,940 --> 02:16:09,300
All right.

1779
02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:10,700
We have a motion in a second.

1780
02:16:10,940 --> 02:16:12,000
All those in favor say.

1781
02:16:12,180 --> 02:16:12,500
Both of you.

1782
02:16:12,580 --> 02:16:13,220
Just a question.

1783
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:14,980
Why can't they use white?

1784
02:16:15,940 --> 02:16:18,180
What's forgetting them from using them to the back of the building?

1785
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:22,340
I don't believe there's any part in buying the building.

1786
02:16:22,580 --> 02:16:23,900
Why see cars parked there?

1787
02:16:23,900 --> 02:16:27,660
Yeah, there's parking behind the door, but that's a staff only able to.

1788
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:32,300
I'm just curious whether they wouldn't.

1789
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:34,060
I don't know if they're, I guess,

1790
02:16:34,380 --> 02:16:36,200
is there a staff up there, maybe?

1791
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:39,060
I don't know, I guess I happen to be.

1792
02:16:39,060 --> 02:16:41,900
I mean, I'm just looking at this photograph that is blind.

1793
02:16:42,140 --> 02:16:45,500
I see four cars there.

1794
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:47,500
I assume, or three in a dumpster me.

1795
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:48,960
I see a red wet or a brown one,

1796
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:51,220
and I just know that there's a big gap in the back.

1797
02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:53,520
There are curious why they didn't use that spot.

1798
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:57,500
It looks like it would be less congestive.

1799
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:01,400
I haven't been in there, but I have a guest that normally people enter through the prompt

1800
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:03,720
and their receptions up front, so to have to start bringing.

1801
02:17:03,940 --> 02:17:05,140
I guess I don't know what to say.

1802
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:09,420
I'm not familiar with the inside of the layout, so it's a split building, there's the insurance

1803
02:17:09,420 --> 02:17:11,740
companies in there that are all the advantages on the left.

1804
02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:17,220
It's our staff part, because so there's only one spot on each business I think in the

1805
02:17:17,220 --> 02:17:17,560
back.

1806
02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:19,140
That's what?

1807
02:17:20,400 --> 02:17:20,940
All right.

1808
02:17:21,180 --> 02:17:22,580
We have a motion in a second.

1809
02:17:22,580 --> 02:17:24,500
All those in favor say aye.

1810
02:17:24,500 --> 02:17:25,260
All right.

1811
02:17:25,260 --> 02:17:25,760
Opposed.

1812
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:26,860
Motion carried.

1813
02:17:28,480 --> 02:17:31,040
Well, we can move on to 12.0 public works.

1814
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:33,860
But I'm assuming Scott's sleeping because there's a snowstorm.

1815
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:36,520
Yeah, he can get back late last night too.

1816
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:37,060
Yeah.

1817
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:38,120
Four or so.

1818
02:17:38,700 --> 02:17:40,340
Each he asked if he could stay home.

1819
02:17:40,640 --> 02:17:42,260
And schools are closed already.

1820
02:17:43,220 --> 02:17:43,820
Oh, great.

1821
02:17:44,660 --> 02:17:50,660
The other one thing is, if any council has not done into city law,

1822
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:57,640
They're renovating it and it's looking nice even though it's renovating so I think we'd go ahead Jeremy

1823
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:03,820
I actually had a question of feet that a couple of people reach out to both the hockey, the warming house

1824
02:18:03,820 --> 02:18:08,220
Yep, because now there's the Tuesday night where you're closing down the one

1825
02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:15,360
Because of what I was skating lessons, yeah

1826
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:20,880
So what they're requesting is that we actually turn heat on and marbling else in the other one

1827
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:27,600
Okay, so we've got we've got it on we've got the open but the heat's not on so basically that wind break

1828
02:18:28,340 --> 02:18:33,580
So sure, we're getting sure that that at least is on there. This is like that we all have that hardware quite a request

1829
02:18:33,580 --> 02:18:34,040
No

1830
02:18:47,660 --> 02:18:49,320
And the work come on ahead of you.

1831
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:53,740
So 13.0 consent agenda.

1832
02:18:53,740 --> 02:18:54,800
We have A bills.

1833
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:57,620
We resolution to dash 12, 2018,

1834
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:00,640
after a submittal of 2040 content.

1835
02:19:00,700 --> 02:19:01,500
And the month comes.

1836
02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:03,880
So see, like the license for new or new.

1837
02:19:05,460 --> 02:19:07,400
D commercial refuge.

1838
02:19:07,500 --> 02:19:08,920
How are license renewal?

1839
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:10,600
And the one day consumption.

1840
02:19:10,940 --> 02:19:11,440
Like your license.

1841
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:12,540
That same chance.

1842
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:13,600
That make a motion.

1843
02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:19,060
the best because of the ABCD and we are in past eight.

1844
02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:20,180
No, no, no.

1845
02:19:20,180 --> 02:19:21,140
We have it.

1846
02:19:21,940 --> 02:19:24,640
Are you seconding then?

1847
02:19:24,940 --> 02:19:25,320
Sure.

1848
02:19:25,880 --> 02:19:26,200
All right.

1849
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:29,000
We have a motion from Terry, the second from Robert.

1850
02:19:29,140 --> 02:19:29,960
Any discussion?

1851
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:33,700
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

1852
02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:34,420
All right.

1853
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:35,200
Opposed.

1854
02:19:35,880 --> 02:19:36,240
Thank you.

1855
02:19:36,660 --> 02:19:38,120
14 committee reports.

1856
02:19:38,440 --> 02:19:40,020
We have planning commission minutes.

1857
02:19:40,300 --> 02:19:42,180
Is there any discussion on any concern?

1858
02:19:42,180 --> 02:19:48,600
I mean, but seeing that, let's move on to 15.0 Mayor comments.

1859
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:51,060
I want to make a suggestion.

1860
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:59,300
We had a, um, time and I had a discussion today that, since Dick game has had passed away,

1861
02:19:59,440 --> 02:19:59,960
we would like...

1862
02:20:00,340 --> 02:20:21,840
To do a resolution for him on May 4th, which is his birthday, and the honor him during his birthday, as well as on May 4th we will be having our big celebration for single name, I would think it would be a great tribute in honor for him.

1863
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:27,530
For the most stuff that he has done for his community is at the air really enough. I think it was just all that week

1864
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:34,000
Get a dick games a week. I mean this guy he does he has done a lot for this community

1865
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:39,540
That just ours, but the surrounding community for you know, so we could we could do me

1866
02:20:42,360 --> 02:20:43,280
Yeah, yeah

1867
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:47,880
Yeah, yeah, I talked with daughter to then. She's up that video. Nice

1868
02:20:54,430 --> 02:21:01,880
So it's up to council, do you want one day if you want the week and then we can present it.

1869
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:04,760
I thought it, whatever you guys decide.

1870
02:21:05,540 --> 02:21:09,540
I like to make a motion to do a dick games a week.

1871
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:12,880
Maybe it's a little overkill, but...

1872
02:21:12,880 --> 02:21:15,880
Saturday to Saturday, starting with May 4th.

1873
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:18,640
Okay, we'll come back as a next video.

1874
02:21:18,960 --> 02:21:19,300
Yeah, thank you.

1875
02:21:20,620 --> 02:21:30,040
That being said, since it's getting late, let's, and we have a post session that lets move on to council comment and let's start with to Mr. Jeff.

1876
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:31,240
I have nothing.

1877
02:21:32,380 --> 02:21:32,500
No.

1878
02:21:32,500 --> 02:21:33,320
I'm not familiar with anything.

1879
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:34,320
Very.

1880
02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:36,320
I can prolong it, so.

1881
02:21:37,020 --> 02:21:37,920
Jeremy, yes, no.

1882
02:21:38,100 --> 02:21:39,620
I have a brief thing.

1883
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:41,920
Thank you to Chief Umphi and to Dr. House.

1884
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:45,860
It's not here about giving me a tour of the new police station and all around the town.

1885
02:21:45,860 --> 02:21:49,860
This next time last Monday doing that, so I appreciate that, so thank you.

1886
02:21:50,740 --> 02:21:51,800
Oh, and you graduated first.

1887
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:53,960
Are you graduated?

1888
02:21:54,820 --> 02:21:55,260
Congratulations.

1889
02:21:57,400 --> 02:22:00,640
I'm going to ask you a hard class, and then I'm done with it.

1890
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:01,740
I'm going to ask you a question.

1891
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:02,500
Thank you.

1892
02:22:02,660 --> 02:22:04,020
I feel appreciate that.

1893
02:22:04,140 --> 02:22:05,060
You're a firefighter.

1894
02:22:05,540 --> 02:22:06,380
That's right.

1895
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:07,580
I'm not a firefighter.

1896
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:09,340
It's cool.

1897
02:22:09,980 --> 02:22:10,400
Thank you.

1898
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:12,200
Nothing for me.

1899
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:15,920
I think we spend that much time on the parking lot, but.

1900
02:22:17,820 --> 02:22:23,240
All right, so we are going to move to close session of public meeting.

1901
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:25,040
Maybe close.

1902
02:22:25,500 --> 02:22:29,980
Soon to Minnesota Statue Section 13, the National Five.

1903
02:22:30,100 --> 02:22:35,780
Some divisions read when councils to discuss the turning plan of privileged managers, such as

1904
02:22:35,780 --> 02:22:36,580
pending litigation.

1905
02:22:37,180 --> 02:22:38,760
Three-minute reasons prior to that.

1906
02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:39,160
Yep.

1907
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,400
Oh, the city is tough.

1908
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:42,920
So here I have to continue.

1909
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:46,760
The city is that certain properties rising from the benefits

1910
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:49,380
received from the Valley View Drive improvements

1911
02:22:49,380 --> 02:22:52,520
as part of the Southwest Interceptor project.

1912
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:56,620
One of those properties was the property located

1913
02:22:56,620 --> 02:22:59,980
at 3.50 Valley View Drive, Jordan, Minnesota.

1914
02:23:00,520 --> 02:23:04,660
Personal ID number 22072, 0040.

1915
02:23:04,960 --> 02:23:08,800
The amount assessed was $14,570.

1916
02:23:08,800 --> 02:23:30,560
That property owner has appealed this assessment to Minnesota statute sections 429.081 to the Scott County District Court file number 70-cv-18-649 of the council will now go into closed session to discuss a settlement offer received from the property owner regarding the pending litigation.