1 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Thank you for your attention. 2 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Good afternoon, welcome to Operations Committee for the City of Kent, today is July 20th, 3 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,000 2010, with me today is our Council President, let's see now, what's your name? 4 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Jamie Perry. 5 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 It's a key stage of name. 6 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,640 And we just got worried that one of our other Council members won't be with us, but we did 7 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:04,640 conference from Debbie Wachley, and with us is Tom, but first, we're going to do some minutes 8 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:05,640 to prove it. 9 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:08,640 I'm going to do a proven minutes stage of July 60, 2010. 10 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:09,640 Wait a minute. 11 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,640 Any further discussion? 12 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:11,640 All right. 13 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:12,640 All right. 14 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:13,640 All right. 15 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:14,640 All right. 16 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:19,640 We do have one additional item number five, if you would note, called the Showware Update, 17 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,640 and John Hodgson will be here to present that. 18 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:23,640 All right. 19 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,640 Item number two of approval, Council Procedures Resolution. 20 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:27,640 Tom? 21 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:28,640 Okay. 22 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:34,640 This is one I'm going to ask you to spend a little time thinking about, because this is the rules 23 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:40,640 of procedure that you as the Council use in all your meetings and your committees as well. 24 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:46,640 And the reason I'm asking you to give it some detail, because I don't want to take liberties with the way you run 25 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,640 your business. 26 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,640 I want you to be in charge of the way you run your business. 27 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,640 So there isn't existing resolution, which would be repealed by this resolution, but I've tried to 28 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:06,640 show you by underlining and striking through the language, the differences between the existing resolution and the new one. 29 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,640 So I'm not sure how, we shall I just sort of walk you through the document. 30 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Yeah, please. 31 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Thank you. 32 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Thank you. 33 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Thank you. 34 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Thank you. 35 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Thank you. 36 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,640 So the first rule difference is in section four, which is entitled Mayor Pro Temporary. 37 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:29,640 And there is not anything really, very substantial in terms of changes there. 38 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,640 There's additional language, but just clarifying language. 39 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,640 I don't think it's, it's very, very substantive. 40 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,640 President Pro Tem, I've added language because of the way Council elections work. 41 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,640 It's possible that there's more than one law and the serving Council member. 42 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,640 If in the absence of the president appointing the President Pro Tem. 43 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,640 And I struggle with how best to solve it. 44 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:04,640 And this is not real elegant, but it says if two or more Council members qualify to the President Pro Tem, 45 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:13,640 then that group of eligible Council members will serve on an alternating basis in alphabetical order using last names to fill the President Pro Tem position. 46 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,640 I don't know how else to solve it. 47 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:24,640 But if for some reason the President's gone and all of a sudden an emergency situation in your appointment has been made. 48 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,640 And there are two or three Council members, all who are leading along to serving. 49 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,640 And it'll just rotate through and alphabetical orders all I could come up with. 50 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,640 If you have another suggestion, that's fine. 51 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,640 I have a question. 52 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Yes. 53 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,640 So I can, I can appoint someone. 54 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Yes. 55 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Does it have to be an official meeting or can it be? 56 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Any time. 57 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Okay. 58 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,640 I would recommend it be in writing. 59 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Okay. 60 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,640 So there's a record. 61 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,640 But yes. 62 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,640 You can do it at any time. 63 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Okay. 64 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Okay. 65 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Council meetings section seven. 66 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Again, no major change there. 67 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,640 It looks substantial. 68 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,640 But I basically just, there's no point restating when it already exists in the city code and state law. 69 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,640 So I just struck out a lot of what I consider me unnecessary language. 70 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,640 Same thing with special meetings. 71 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Let's see section nine, the presiding officer at meetings. 72 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Again, clarifying language. 73 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Just stating that the mayor shall preside if the mayor is absent the pres, the council president shall preside. 74 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 And that's basically the person with a gavel who runs the meeting. 75 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:42,640 I also have been clear thinking in another section that when the president of the council is acting as presiding. 76 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Officer in the mayor's absence. 77 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,640 He or she retains all her voting rights as a council member. 78 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,640 I think that was up. 79 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Yeah. 80 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Let's see. 81 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Majority vote section 12. 82 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:05,640 In that section, a change that members voting to members attending because you can have an abstain to abstain is not to vote. 83 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 So that could cause problems. 84 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:14,640 And then also some there are some less require a supermajority or majority of the full council. 85 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:21,640 No matter how much even if you have a quorum of less than the full council. 86 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Executive session and agenda's executive session. 87 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,640 No substantive change. 88 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Agenda reflects the change that you started all this, which is to move. 89 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Continuing communications to come after public hearings and before the consent calendar. 90 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,640 I have a typo also in this one. 91 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,640 There's a couple of typos. 92 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,640 I'll fix. 93 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:45,640 I've worked with you. 94 00:07:45,640 --> 00:08:00,640 The one on item number 11 executive session will read executive session in action after executive session, which is the way we use it on our agenda now. 95 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Let's see. 96 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:21,640 On section 20 voting, I clarify that abstaining is to not cast about that's consistent with Robert's rules of the order order. 97 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Let's see, motions to reconsider already covered by Robert's rules of order. 98 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,640 So I just struck that. 99 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,640 I don't want to confuse the issue. 100 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,640 You've done the same need and you know that. 101 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Yes, but there are other parliamentary ways to bring it back if you want to. 102 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,640 I believe that's right. 103 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,640 I can't remember. 104 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,640 I have to check sometimes when I have the laws during the council meeting. 105 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,640 I read about the rules. 106 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,640 I hope so. 107 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,640 I hope so. 108 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,640 I'll be able to answer your questions because it's complicated. 109 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Ordnances resolutions and contracts presentation section 22. 110 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,640 I clarify that they are referred by committee. 111 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,640 That wasn't actually in their requested by the mayor submitted by the city attorney. 112 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 And mostly they come by committee referral. 113 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,640 So I figured we should put that in there. 114 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,640 And that's pretty much the end of that section. 115 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Council committees. 116 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,640 I clarify the role of the chair, the position of the chair. 117 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,640 And that it's the membership a little bit in section 25. 118 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Nothing too substantial there. 119 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,640 I changed the name of the Parks Committee to Parks and Human Services Committee. 120 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,640 Again, consistent with city ordinance. 121 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Employee committee is now economic and community development. 122 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:55,640 I made some changes to public works, included references to the utilities and franchises. 123 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Public safety. 124 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,640 I removed the fire fighting references. 125 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Because now we have an RFA. 126 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,640 And if you have any other. 127 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:14,640 I think I maybe should consult with Ben Walters and Fred Saddestrom about the duties of the economic community development committee. 128 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:24,640 There might be a couple other substance of general categories that I wouldn't want to add back in. 129 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,640 I clarify in section 26. 130 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Sometimes when we have a rush item we'll bring an item that for example might normally come before public works. 131 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Cooperations are even public safety. 132 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Historically the council's entertained those in order to move things forward on the agenda quickly. 133 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,640 So I clarify that in section 26. 134 00:10:46,640 --> 00:11:01,640 By adding the saying that committee should consider matters further than whether within or outside the committee general focus area. 135 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,640 And that is workshops and this again in city code. 136 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,640 By just clarified the workshops. 137 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Regular meetings to the full council. 138 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,640 You can think action if you want to as a regular meeting. 139 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,640 And that's pretty much it. 140 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,640 Okay. 141 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:26,640 So you need to tell me or you at the full council meeting if there's any if I have. 142 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:36,640 In a direction you don't want to go or if there's something you want to add about procedurally about how you do business or change in the existing words for closed ordinance. 143 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,640 One thing came up for this past year. 144 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Then the council president probably should read has a power to the point. 145 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Members to any committee or board. 146 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Because a situation came up when there if they board where we thought I had to resolve the situation. 147 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,640 And there wasn't real clear. 148 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Okay. 149 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,640 Now we we gave the council president that power. 150 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,640 But I think it would should be established in these by love as well. 151 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 I just committee but more than committee. 152 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Okay. 153 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,640 We need to learn that section. 154 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,640 I think it's under four. 155 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,640 I'm sorry. 156 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Six is the duty and responsible. 157 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Thank you. 158 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Would you agree with that? 159 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,640 Well I mean that's in practice what we do anyway. 160 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,640 I mean there's not really a board that I don't. 161 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,640 But there was a clear. 162 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Yeah, but on the RFA you're right. 163 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Absolutely wasn't clear. 164 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Some sort of had to scramble it. 165 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,640 And we use that as our basis for the decision we made. 166 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,640 I think maybe we wouldn't hurt to have it in here. 167 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Yes, I will find the right spot to put that in and get it in. 168 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,640 I know we've got. 169 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,640 I know we discussed it one last year. 170 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Yeah. 171 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,640 It's on six. 172 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Section six. 173 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Number eight. 174 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,640 On page on the fourth page of the. 175 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Right. 176 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,640 There you go. 177 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,640 I mean it. 178 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Point. 179 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Membership with each established committee. 180 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,640 And the committee chair persons. 181 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,640 So it could just say committee and boards. 182 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Okay. 183 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,640 There's something. 184 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,640 As well as the committee chair person. 185 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Something like that. 186 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Yeah. 187 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,640 If you could do that. 188 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,640 But it seems like this is a lot of housekeeping. 189 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,640 Ways that we already connect business. 190 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,640 It's just it's a few years old and and you know you. 191 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,640 You run your own show and things kind of change over time. 192 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,640 And it's not practical. 193 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Every time you make a little change to come back and then the resolution that this is not opportunity 194 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,640 catch up. 195 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Good. 196 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,640 So and I'll make that change. 197 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Thank you. 198 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Any other question to come in? 199 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,640 No. 200 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,640 I don't think so. 201 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,640 I think this is pretty standard. 202 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,640 We'll be in order for a motion. 203 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Okay. 204 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,640 I moved the recommend council approved the resolution. 205 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,620 Dr. 206 00:13:55,620 --> 00:14:00,620 the dotting front city council rules and procedures as amended today. 207 00:14:00,620 --> 00:14:01,620 Want to see that? 208 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:02,620 Okay. 209 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:03,620 It's been probably moving the second day. 210 00:14:03,620 --> 00:14:04,620 We adopted this ordinance. 211 00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:06,620 I'll turn the tables together when we say that. 212 00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:07,620 Right. 213 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,620 Do you have this? 214 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:10,620 Thank you very much. 215 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:14,620 Again I did have the consent of the council member. 216 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:15,620 Item number three. 217 00:14:15,620 --> 00:14:18,620 I'll start by second amendment to valicumification 218 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:20,620 and center in their local agreement. 219 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:37,620 Okay. This is a pretty straightforward situation. A couple of years ago, Auburn Fire Department broke off from the City of Arbor informed regional fire authority just as the City of Cance Fire Department has just done. 220 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:49,620 And because as the City of Cance, just like City of Arbor and as a member of City in Valley Com, our fire department was included under our authority now there's separate governmental entity. 221 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:59,620 And we need to recognize that in the Valley Comunication Center and our local agreement so that we can do the cost of portion of billing of calls. 222 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 That's set up between the city and the RFA. 223 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Okay? 224 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,000 So my only question is, how does this not have a budget impact? 225 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Because shouldn't the RFA be picking up some of the costs? 226 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,000 They will be, they'll be paying for all fire calls. 227 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 So, it's just as budget impact. 228 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Well, let's see, this is what this is a proving of valley-com, interlocal and agreement. 229 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,000 The budget impact actually occurs with the creation of the RFA. 230 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Yeah. 231 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Okay. 232 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 All right. 233 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Any further questions or discussion? 234 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 All right. Go ahead. 235 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:45,000 I moved to recommend Council Authorities and Mayor to sign the second amendment to the valley communication center interlocal agreement on behalf of Kent as a member city. 236 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 A second. 237 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Any further discussion? 238 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 If not, I'll do a favor as the ordinance. If think of a saying aye. 239 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Aye. 240 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Aye. 241 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 I'll put it. Okay. 242 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Very good. Thank you very much. 243 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Thank you very much. 244 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Oh, have a question in the regard to not anything here. 245 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 I don't know if somebody is able to get a hold of you today or not. 246 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Maybe John can answer the same question. 247 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 As far as a lodging tax advisory committee, 248 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 do I need to get two weeks of notice on that committee? 249 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Good point. 250 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,000 No. 251 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 To establish a date. 252 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 For meeting date? 253 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Oh. 254 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:26,000 I'd have to look at the code to see whether establishes times for meeting or not. 255 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And if it doesn't, then I think you can just establish it. 256 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 As are you chair of that committee? 257 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Yeah. 258 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 I don't think I can see what the code is. 259 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000 I could have a second. 260 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000 If there's no problem on the third. 261 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 If there's two weeks notice. 262 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 But that's two weeks from today. 263 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 So I'll find out. 264 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I'm feeling a nice question. 265 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Okay. Thank you. 266 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Thank you. 267 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Thank you. 268 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Becky. 269 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 You're up. 270 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Good afternoon. 271 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Welcome. 272 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 I'm here to present the highest group contract. 273 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 And you are to the public. 274 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Sorry. 275 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Thank you. 276 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Thank you. 277 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Thank you. 278 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Thank you. 279 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Thank you. 280 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 I'm here to present the highest group contract. 281 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Currently the city is contracted with A on consulting services 282 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 for the fiduciary responsibilities. 283 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:25,000 We need someone with the expertise on deferred caught. 284 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Basically. 285 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 The duties and administration. 286 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 The investment practices. 287 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,000 What not. 288 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,000 We need somebody that understands the market. 289 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 So we contract with a third party. 290 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Because our deferred caught program has approximately. 291 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 And we are required to be the share responsible to our employees. 292 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 And make sure that we're picking the best of the best. 293 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Of the market options with our ICM A deferred caught plan. 294 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Currently, Greg Settle or a pass. 295 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Greg Settle was employed by A on consulting. 296 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 And he has moved to the highest group. 297 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And so I met with the fiduciary committee. 298 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Which comprises John, Hodgson, Bob, Knockling or Suvisa. 299 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,000 And we decided that it would be appropriate to go ahead and move to the highest group. 300 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 And continue our relationship with Greg Settle. 301 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 He is a past employee. 302 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Few years back with ICM A. 303 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,000 So he understands the deferred caught program extensively. 304 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 And so after we met, we voted. 305 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 And we did vote to move to the highest groups. 306 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,000 So I'm coming with that recommendation to you to continue on with our relationship with Greg Settle. 307 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:48,000 But moving from A on consulting to the highest group. 308 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,000 I did three looks at other cities. 309 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 City of Richland actually moved. 310 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 The same thing that we're proposing to do. 311 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,000 They were not going to stay with A on consulting. 312 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 They were going to move to the highest group. 313 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Also did reference checks. 314 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Were there other cities that were with the highest group? 315 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Yes. 316 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000 There are one of the fastest growing consulting groups on the west coast. 317 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Actually for a teeny cities and working with deferred caught plans. 318 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Also with qualified retirement plans. 319 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 They're working with the number of cities all up and down the west coast. 320 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Mainly in Washington, Oregon, California. 321 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 One of the established, you know. 322 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 About two and a half years ago. 323 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 So it's a pretty recent. 324 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 It's a new company. 325 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Yes. 326 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 They have a number of cities all up and down the west coast. 327 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 They're going to track record of the established. 328 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Actually the person who started the company worked originally for ICM A also. 329 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 And then he worked for another large company. 330 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000 And they had a parting of the ways. 331 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000 I guess you could say and he created his own company. 332 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 On city of Spokane stayed with him. 333 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,000 They moved when he created his new company also. 334 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Our city attorney is joining us. 335 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 We're just going to add him back. 336 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 You just said that I want to add Greg has been. 337 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 In the situation for your hiring the. 338 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 The, uh, analyst for the broker. 339 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 And the attorney and not the firm. 340 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Greg Settle has been able to broker an excellent deal of this. 341 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 For a top program. 342 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000 The best. 343 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Any of the cities have around. 344 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 So. 345 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Pretty comfortable recommending that we stay with him. 346 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 The other thing that back. 347 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Didn't mention is that. 348 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 A on has gone through another reshuffling. 349 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 It basically didn't want us. 350 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 And they. 351 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 So. 352 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 It's not a comfortable feeling. 353 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 So. 354 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Okay. 355 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 That's why this all came about. 356 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I can't know. 357 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 It is that we were too small. 358 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 But she's small. 359 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 We're just. 360 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 It's just. 361 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 You're taking that. 362 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 So. 363 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 So. 364 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Well, I'm in so anyway, we, we felt like this was a pretty good solution. 365 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 And it's a one year contract. 366 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 If it doesn't work out. 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 I'm a. 368 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 It's a. 369 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 It's a. 370 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Wait till we annexed. 371 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 You're going to be really delated. 372 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 He's. 373 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Like. 374 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 And John, you come to work this as well. 375 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Besides. 376 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Yes. 377 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000 All right. 378 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 I'm sure. 379 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 I'm sure. 380 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Do you approve the. 381 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Is. 382 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Is. 383 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 High as. 384 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,000 As. 385 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 The group in the development consulting services. 386 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Contact a review of the city's effort compensation program. 387 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 It's a rule of internally. 388 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 By the city attorney's office and that. 389 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 The contract. 390 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 You place on the city council consent calendar. 391 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 August 3, 2010 meeting. 392 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Second. 393 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Any further discussion? 394 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 If not, uh, those are the papers for this ordinance? 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Think about it saying aye. 396 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Aye. 397 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Opposed? 398 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 All right. 399 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Thank you. 400 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Thank you. 401 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 I didn't know if I decided to do anything that we've got it. 402 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:02,000 And, um, last operations committee, we asked staff to pursue the idea of the sign for the show we're a center. 403 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 And they were looking to, 404 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:11,000 uh, sign, location, cost, and they're doing that, but we have an update so far the, uh, in John Hudson. 405 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 You care to elaborate. 406 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Sure. 407 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Um, three things regarding the sign. 408 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000 First of all, we appreciate you giving us direction to do that because, uh, 409 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,000 uh, it's something that as we were building the show where a center we got close to, you know, 410 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 how much money do we have left to finish the project and we chose to, to really put all the final 411 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000 money into the amenities on the inside of the facility. 412 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 It was a committee decision. 413 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:39,000 And, uh, but at the same time we always recognize that we needed to do this, um, this sign at the show where 414 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000 center. 415 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,000 So where we're at right now is, is we're treating this as a public works project because of the value 416 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 and we have to bid it. 417 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Um, two things that we're looking at right now and, um, we should be done any day now. 418 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Number one, when we built the Plaza, we ran conduit to where the sign probably will be. 419 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 So there's conduit there. 420 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 We're just making sure that we have enough electricity to, to do the sign we want. 421 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Secondly, and probably most importantly is because of the soils. 422 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Um, there we have to make sure that we have the right kind of foundation, uh, for the sign. 423 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 And it's really a, for wind shear. 424 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,000 If there's a good strong wind, we, uh, the, the, the soils are not very strong in the valley. 425 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,000 So we want to make sure that we do other right type of foot, uh, footings for the, uh, for the, for the sign. 426 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,000 So we've hired, uh, Shannon and Wilson, which is the same company that did all the geotech engineering, 427 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 for sure we're center. 428 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,000 And they are, as we speak, doing the calculations. 429 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 And so with that, we already have the bid specs for the sign itself. 430 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 We can put the foundation specs together. 431 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,000 And hopefully we should be ready to go out to bid any time. 432 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:59,000 And so the, the question will be, if we're, if we're ready to go before the third of, of August, 433 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,000 when you want to meet with the committee, um, we can actually go to bid and if the committee, 434 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,000 at some, at some point, or the council decides they don't want to do it, we can just reject the bid. 435 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:15,000 And so when we're ready in the next day or so or week to go to bid, we can go to bid without waiting. 436 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 If you'd like, and we just saved that much more time. 437 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000 And knowing that we can reject the bid, if, if, at the end of the day, the committee, 438 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,000 either committee, the council committee, or the, the Washington tax committee, 439 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 doesn't want to spend that kind of money. 440 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Okay. 441 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Okay. 442 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Sorry. 443 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 So the engineering, do we believe that we are going to do, go over what we originally, 444 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000 No, I think we're still, I think we're so comfortable with the, the $200,000 range. 445 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,000 And one of the things that we can do is we, we have an idea of the, you know, 446 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 the type of LED lights that we're going to use and all that. 447 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:56,000 And hopefully, we're still within that $200,000 range knowing the footings. 448 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,000 But we want to, essentially, what we're doing is we're putting all the bid specs together. 449 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 We'll get an engineer's estimate before you go to bid. 450 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 The engineer's estimate comes back and says, you're way over, we'll certainly like, you know, 451 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,000 but we still think right now we're in that $200,000 range. 452 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 How does that happen? 453 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 How does that happen? 454 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 I'm really sorry to not hear her. 455 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Has she been kind of involved in this as well yet? 456 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Well, I know. 457 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Yeah. 458 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,000 She's been contacted by Kurt Hanson, who's our manager, economic development manager, 459 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 and he's one managing this project. 460 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:35,000 So she will have, the, the big, the big role will be, what is the aesthetics of the, 461 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 of the sign itself and one of the big questions right now, 462 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000 we don't have a sponsor for it, which was one of the things we were looking for 463 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,000 someone to sponsor the sign and so we don't, but we will have some type of a show where 464 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:54,000 we'll go on it and so those are the types of things that she'll be involved in with Kurt. 465 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Okay. 466 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Great. 467 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I just don't want to let that out of the loop. 468 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 We will not leave her out of loop. 469 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,000 In fact, the email that I have from Kurt, he's out of the office today, 470 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 notes that she is part of the process. 471 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Okay. 472 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000 Appreciate any other comments or questions? 473 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Yep. 474 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 All right. 475 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,500 Thank you, John. 476 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:15,500 And if you hear our answer, yes, go to bed. 477 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,500 When we're ready, go to bed. 478 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:17,500 We'll get it out. 479 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:18,500 Okay. 480 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,500 Okay. 481 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,500 Thanks. 482 00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:21,500 You bet. 483 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,500 And with that, unless there's anything else, we are adjourned.