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and call this meeting to order. It is 6
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start. So, um we will start with an
opening prayer. Does Brad hurt here?

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» Yes.
>> Let's pray. Lord Jesus, we thank you for

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the reality that you are the focus, the
foundation of all that is true. And

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Lord, that you are the one that gives us
life. Lord, now in the light of Easter

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this week and Lord, in light of all that
you've given us, may we ask that you

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grant wisdom to these leaders, to those
who are here, Lord, in the matters that

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to be discussed, that Lord, you would
bring your presence into their midst, in

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the midst of all that you bring, that
they might walk in ways that lead to

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life, and that we all might follow in
that foot in those footsteps. In the

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name of Jesus, we pray. Amen. Amendment

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» All right, first up is the approval of
the agenda. I do have a couple changes

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to make. Uh we will move up by request
the Rocky Dam discussion from old

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business to start new business
and then also add a discussion around

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the Coronado and G Street
for new business.

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That would be F
as uh the Rocky Dam will become new

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business A.

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I move for that approval. If there was
changes,

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right, we have a motion in a second. All
approved. Say I.

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» I. All
>> oppose. Same sign.

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Passes.
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Three to one. I'm sorry. Three to zero.
Thank you.

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Uh so now we'll uh
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and for discussion.

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» I think pull up. I'd make a motion to
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second.
>> Motion to approve and second. All in

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favor say I. I. All
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All right, passes three to zero.

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All right, moving to public comment.
Got Leani. Is it Leani Wilson?

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» Leil Lonnie.
>> Leilani. Thank you.

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» That's okay. Lonnie is fine.
>> Um, so I'm here to talk about the

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library again. Um, we
mentioned last time that there were some

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issues with our front doors. We're in
the process of resolving that. However,

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it's going to be a bigger project than
we thought it would. Uh, it's not just

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the doors that have an issue, but the
windows around the door are beginning to

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break and bow. And there's potentially a
problem with the subf flooring on the

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inside of that little area as well. So,
it's going to take us a while longer to

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get that remedy because we'll have to do
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but good news, uh, we've started a
really cool adventure pass program at

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the library this last month. Um, we have
eight passes for people to check out and

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they can go to Botanica, Cow Town, the
Cosmosphere, the Witchaw Art Museum, the

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Cedric County Zoo, Tangana, Field of
Station, Dinosaur G, or Exploration

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Place with those passes and it gives
them in for free. So, that's one of the

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big things we've started.
And that's about all the update I have

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for you. So nice and quick.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.
>> All right, that is the only public

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comment that we have signed up. So we'll
move forward to new business and we'll

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start with the Rocky Dam.
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we've had this conversation for some
time about the diverting some of the

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water away. You guys know the history
there and I've invited Charles Malofman

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from Wilson Capital who has been
involved in this for some time. Kind of

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walk us through what that might look
like the process we go through. And if

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you want to flip that table, just angle
that around. Yeah. That way you can sit

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with the papers. He's got Charles got a
lot of history. He worked on this

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project. Uh well, we had FEMA. Uh hope
you're working on all that going back.

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So I think tonight's purpose is really
just to really understand um you know

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what what would what we would have to go
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diversion of the existing water.
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» Yeah. So I think it this is I've done
three or four disasters of the uh the

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park area um for the river and
everything for a while. The initial two

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were just in like two started in 2017
with a disaster and then I think there

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was another one 19 that eventually led
to what we did in 2023

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which was the full FEMA mitigation with
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to really redo a lot of the slopes, a
lot of the trails, put those low water

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crossings in that were pretty easy to be
maintained and everything. And as a part

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of that process and I got the report
here that we did, there was a decent

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amount of hydraulic modeling that we re
that we did with that in order to

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understand a little bit more about how
the middle race and the um river kind of

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responded to the flood waters in
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50-year storm event and 100redyear. And
so, uh, this report that I did was back

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in 2022 and everything and that was to
help, uh, support our, um, cost to

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benefit ratio in order to get that
$800,000 in FEMA funding to redo all the

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stuff down there. And so as we were
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what it could be to um help I don't
change the direction of some of the

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flows and everything down there. we'd be
probably going through a similar well

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not similar probably more in depth
process because this FEMA was very on

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board with us at that point in time
about wanting to fix this cuz they were

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as tired of coming out to Kingman to
help fix uh every time it would get

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flooded as we were of trying to make
sure it didn't happen again and

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everything. Um, if we were to go to
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diverting, core is not going to be as on
board. I would think would want to work

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with us as much as FEMA was. FEMA really
I don't want to say bent over backwards

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because it took a long time, but they
did really work with us and try and help

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work us through the process and
everything as quickly as possible in

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order to really get these funds
allocated and on. I think Greg could um

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or or respond to that not respond but
talk about that too about how good how

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nice FEMA was to work with once we were
able to get them on the phone and have

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weekly meetings with them and
everything. So um it worked out really

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well. This new process would be
different though we had we wouldn't be

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working with FEMA as a part of a
disaster. This would be core in order to

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get it permanented as a waters of the US
and everything. It would take a lot of

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effort. Not that we couldn't do it. It
would just be a lengthy process and

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everything in order to get it done.
Require a lot of environmental

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permitting and other things. And it it
can be done. It's just it's just going

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to be a process and all. So, um we can
talk about that more. Talk about what

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we've done in the past if you got any
questions that you guys want me to

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answer.
>> So, just to recap on what happened in

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2023 and you talked about the FEMA
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or was that just
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» Was all 800,000 spent?
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» And it most of it was I believe 75%
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there was another 15% that was handed
from the state of tech state of Kansas

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in order to help with some of the match
for the city. So I think the city was

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only on the book for about 10% of the
overall 800,000 that that was for

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construction. There was another couple
hundred,000 that was for engineering

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design and environmental assessment
process as well that we had to go

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through for FEMA. So are you
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working with FEMA our current condition?
Are you aware of our current condition?

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Have you physically been down there to
see it? Yeah, I mean I I've been down

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there a couple times while construction
was going on. I went back there this

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afternoon to look at it, re relook at
the slopes and everything. And I mean

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the slopes that we corrected look pretty
good and everything. They look like

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they've been stable, which I'm very
happy with and everything. It's always

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when you
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you never know exactly how they're going
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looks very good and all from my opinion.
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» okay. Do you have any do you have any
pictures of what the banks, you know, I

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know this this moves rather fast when
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» So, do you know what the condition of
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now we're at a situation where those
walkways around the park are borderline

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falling in. So, when we corrected the
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banks at the same time or did we leave
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moved on. What was the scope of that
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» So the scope of that pro a lot of it was
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putting it in we had coververts
underneath there beforehand that got

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washed away during the big flood event.
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what we call low low water crossing sort
of things that could be cleaned off

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» and all. And there was on the mil race
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didn't extend it all the way in there
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the flood or not of the flood waters,
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was happening in there. So, we basically
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what was there to the exact same
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out was not going to happen moving into
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» Just rip wrap.
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then there's some natural vegetation on
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process in order to preserve a more
natural habitat and everything.

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» Is that what we call a rocky dam?
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the river side of it.
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everything. And that was put in there
before my time even.

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» Absolutely. It's been there forever. I
think what Travis is talking about is

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trying to get more flow into the river
itself instead of the mail race, which

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we've done that more than once in the
last 20, 25 years, the core deal or

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something. I know hackers would go down
here and pull up rock and to try to get

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the water. Well, then you get a flood
and it all it changes it. So, I mean, I

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I don't think that that would have
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just or if
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funds the way we have the state of
Kansas would need to declare it disaster

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and everything in order for the and then
we would need to assess the damage at

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the park area and everything in order to
um enable to get funds and those funds

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would initially be there to replace back
to existing conditions. We've had enough

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disasters over the years, we probably
could get hazard mitigation funds which

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would allow us to improve it to a little
bit better, which is how we got that

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800,000 in order to improve it a little
bit better. But that's based on a cost

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to benefit ratio that we need that we
kind of were right on the edge of it

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with the 800,000 this last time. our
benefit was it was good enough to get

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the 800,000 but if we would have asked
for more and everything we wouldn't have

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been able to get the funds for that
extra stuff there

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» so would a mitigation fund pay for
the diversion of water the north

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» I I don't think it would at this point
in time because there's not a disaster

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that's been declared in order to allow
for those funds to be a to be available

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for us at this point in time. So, we
would, this is going to sound a little

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counterintuitive, but we would need to
wait for something to wash out again in

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order and for the state of Kansas to
declare an emergency or a disaster, not

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emergency, a disaster in order for us to
start being able to talk to FEMA about

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that again.
>> And the record rainfall that we received

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last year isn't good enough to start
those conversations. There wouldn't need

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to be a formal declaration by the
governor in order to or the um Kadum

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Kansas Department of Emergency
Management in order to really have FEMA

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come in and start looking at that. And
then we would need to have to calculate

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the damages that happened as part of
that in order for FEMA to get involved.

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So when I'm thinking of mitigation
plans, you're trying to present prevent

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something from happening and you're
saying we have to wait till something

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happens. Is that
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can use? The funding mechanisms we've
used in the past have been based on the

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disasters and everything. We would still
need to show that cost to benefit

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» ratio in order to justify the use of it
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» Okay. I mean, there's other stuff we
would have to do as a part of this. Part

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of my
concern about doing too much is

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destabilizing the river and then us
creating a situation where we're

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actually creating new paths for the
river to go and then we will be eroding

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out more of that or in order to prevent
that we're just going to start

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increasing the costs of projects over
the course of time. At the end of the

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day, especially that um that western
that western point of the park and

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everything, it's it it's going to be
underwater a lot because it goes

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underwater during a 5-year event, which
is like it's got a 20% chance of

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happening in any given year. So there's
there's a high probability that western

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point's going to be underwater in
any any 5-year period that I mean it

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doesn't exactly equate to that but
there's a good chance that it'll be

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under there's a 20% chance in any given
year that western end will go

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underwater.
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end is that all the way up to the
carnival grounds?

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» Yes. And with our mitigation, we did put
a burm around there in order to keep the

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tenure event from going into the
carnival grounds and everything, but and

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then we kind of created more resilient
infrastructure with those low water

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crossings and everything to where we
should be able to get the water through

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there and it not tear anything out like
it has in the past. And that's where the

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low water crossings are helping get it
through there quicker. And then we'll

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still have the sand and silt probably
accumulate on the walkways and

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everything, but and we'll need to wipe
those off, but it'll just be a quick

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wiping off rather than the trail being
gone for three or four years like it was

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the last time.
>> What was the event? Was that a 10-year

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event? The last
the last project with FEMA booms?

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» Yes, about 10 year event. Yeah.
How much freedom do we have to go in and

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lay the rocky day under just the water?
>> Once you're talking about getting below

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the banks of the river, then we really
should be that there's

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nationwide permits that'll make it easy,
but we need to be talking to the core of

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engineers about a permit in order to do
things below the bank of the river and

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all or I mean we can talk about it and
we can write some p we would be able to

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write some paperwork and give you guys
recommendations. They're general

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conditions for what you can and can't do
down there. And we can talk about that

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if you want to move some stuff around
under there, but it has to be very

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limited in a small space and everything.
But if you're talking about taking out

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the Rocky Dam or something, that would
need to be something that we would need

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to heavily discuss with the board.
>> And she brought that up. We talked about

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was that a grant, Greg, that we had
attempted to get for um the probably

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daughter fish as much as anything. The
fish walkway up the passageway.

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Yeah, ladder. Fish. The fish ladder.
Fish ladder.

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» Kansas wilds and parks. Put one in
there. But they also the city. Oh, was

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that the deal?

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» Thank you for that reminder. Would that
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that in my mind that's where it was
through there? It was going to it was

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going to take him through the Rocky Dan

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some fashion.
>> And what does the Rocky Dan do? I'm

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asking probably a question that you guys
all know, but it converts it back into

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the race. Yeah, that's that's what Okay,
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» but that's that's the trick is trying to
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» Rocky Dam right
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when even when you first moved here John
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» and then all of a sudden it kind of got
banked up but we had that flood in 17

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and 19 and then I mean it just it didn't
change so much

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it's I know hackers have done it god I
don't know several times s just pull

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rock up, try to put water in the rocky
dam or more of a river again. And then

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about time you get done if if it comes
up and floods, it changes

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everything. The problem is right now we
have too much water going down the

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middle
>> and it's around the banks along that

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walk on especially the the north bank
part of the project that on the on the

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fairgrounds
on this race side

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it was armored up to almost the firing
range. Yeah, I think we went

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» and that's as far as FEMA would let us
go because that was the only thing that

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they could tie back to the disaster to
mitigate that disaster.

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So up to about the firing range there is
rip wrap and protection armory on there

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on the south side of the mil bank going
all the way down to the west point but

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we couldn't like the the bank didn't get
eroded enough past that point in order

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to push it far basically all the way to
the bridge and everything and the slopes

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get higher at that point in time and so
it would have been a lot more rock a lot

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more bank stabilization and everything.
So costs started creeping up and and

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that was about the time on the east side
of it, we had a tree or two get off the

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bank and that bank next to the pond
really started eroding at that point in

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time. And then that's where a large
chunk of the funds went in order

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essentially to save the pond because
that bank was I think that um trail over

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there was getting um undercut pretty
significantly. I think we would have

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lost the trail in the pond. So,
>> but if you go right there from the pond

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and go into the mail race almost right
there at the bridge, there's a place

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right there that's almost on the wall
and that's several places along that

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wall going down to the old pool and even
on the other side. That would been my

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question is can can the city go in there
and rip wrap that without any permits?

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You can rip wrap a portion of it, but
there's a limit as to how much you can

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declare as bank stabil. I I don't know
all the general conditions for some of

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these general permits and everything we
can do through the core. But I think

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there's some of it. But then we would
need to look at the rock that we use.

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There was discussion at one point in
time about using um concrete um re

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basically um
>> the old sidewalks. Yeah, the old

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sidewalks and everything to do it and we
would need to get rebar out of it and

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everything in order to make it suitable
to put in the creek and all. Eventually,

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I think we got to the point it was too
much work for what it's worth at that

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point in time. But we went through a
series of different things and we just

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need to read the general condition to
make sure whatever we do if you guys

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have extra rock or extra concrete that
it's in compliance so that down the road

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we don't get sideways with um with the
permitting agencies like core. up.

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» Well, would the core have discretion
over the bail race from just through?

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» That's been a
point of I'll say discussion with the

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core since there is water in it that's
actively moving. They've always viewed

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it as yes, they have discretion over it,
but I think there's probably if we

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wanted to push it, there's probably some
wiggle room we could have with that at

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the end of the day. But
to the point that if we don't make some

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corrections on some of that bank along
that mail race, we're going to have all

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if we have get another flood or two
of that stuff because some of them needs

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to be roof.
>> Yeah.

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We're past that point over to Elus.

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» I mean, if it's if it's like very small
areas that would really I mean, that

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that can be handled within some of these
nationwide permits and everything where

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you don't even need to really involve
the court. just need to follow the

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general conditions and everything and we
can write a letter of like yeah this

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falls within the limits of this
nationwide permit and everything. It's

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just we can't go from top of mill race
to end of middle race and do that within

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that. That would be a more lengthy
individual permit with the core.

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» Well, we don't have the resource to do
it. We don't need to do it all, but

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there are three or four places that need
to be done. And I can't believe we can't

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find enough clean sidewalk or broken
concrete to put back in there.

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» Yeah.

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» I've taken on quite a bit out one of my
ponds out there and I've got quite a bit

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laying there now that they brought out
that is is suitable. There's no bar.

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» Yeah.
>> Is that primarily the only issue rebar?

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That was the main one that was hanging
us up when we were I mean there's other

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things that we'll need to look at but
that was the one on the stuff that we

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were talking about that was like yeah we
don't even want to go down this path

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anymore
>> but that was five or six years ago now

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that we were having that discussion. So

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» so is the next step then to identify the
areas that need addressed and start the

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permit process
>> if that if that's what we want to do.

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Yeah, we can identify those and we can
look into the I can send the general

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conditions your guys way and look into
what needs to be done for that and make

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sure we can find the right stuff and
everything. That's we've no big deal on

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my end to do that. So I think it's a
good start. You need the ball

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» and then and then basically the city
would do the work and contract for the

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work to be done. There's no
specifications and all the stuff that

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has to happen in that regard. No, you
guys,

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» we follow the if I give you the G I mean
you guys can find the general conditions

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online too if you want, but I can give
them to you to make sure you got the

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right the most current ones and
everything, but at that point in time,

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yeah, if you guys just had extra
concrete or whatever hanging around that

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met those conditions, you don't need to
talk to us anymore after that. So,

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» well, that's a start. Y

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» sounds good. Any more questions or
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» All right. Well, thank you for making
the trip out.

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» Yeah, no problem.
>> Yeah, pretty.

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» All right. Next item on the agenda is
the cemeter cemetery software.

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Um, so commissioners, we have uh two
dates for cemetery software and myself

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and uh staff started looking at some
cemetery software. Given that our

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current records is all handwritten and
books, uh I have a book here at city

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hall. Daryl has one at the cemetery.
That's the only real visual reference we

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have for different plots and who's where
and who owns what. Um we have also a

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spreadsheet which gives no visual
reference whatsoever.

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Um
and currently there are

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um just over 6300
people that we have at least on the

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spreadsheets
um that are buried. There's more than

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that buried that's not necessarily
logged from old old records.

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Um what this software does is
it basically digitizes the records that

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we already have and continuous
digitization of records. It provides a

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visual reference where people are uses
Google maps. So you'll be able to see

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all the different u graves and plots and
lots uh within Waln Hill Cemetery.

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There's also a public portal that would
be on the website where a public would

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be able to log in. Well, no log in. They
just go to it and they're able to see

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who's buried where um they can also see
what sites are available to purchase and

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from there they can put a request in and
um request to purchase that. it would

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still have to go through the section of
an eye to finalize anything. So, you

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can't just go online and buy a plot
because we got to just verify with our

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books and records and stuff.
Um, so that's that's kind of what we're

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looking at. Like I said, we got three
quotes. Um, I contacted PlotBox. Um,

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they were really honest with me and said
that they would probably be cost

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prohibitive for a a city our size. and
they actually send drones out and they

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actually plot the cemetery with drones
and stuff like that. So, I would imagine

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that that gets pretty pricey. Um, the
other two, they look at existing Google

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maps and the maps that we have, the
maps, we do have maps, but they are um

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very microscopic. It's the most current
map is on a legal sheet of paper for an

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entire area, 50 some acres. you can
imagine how shrunk and down that gets.

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So, um we have to use magnifying glass
to look at the the block numbers and

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stuff like that. Um and it's it's pretty
messy. So, they will um basically take

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that information, overlay it, pop up
Google Maps, and grid everything out

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that looks nice. Um the sim sites is the
cheaper bid. Um, however,

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I will say that the only meeting that we
had with that company was a 30 minute

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demo. He didn't get really much
information from us other than what the

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size of our cemetery is, how many people
are buried. Whereas did a more in-depth

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dive at our data. We actually sent them
files. Uh they had a secondary meeting

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with us after the demonstration with uh
Daryl and I, the cemetery sex team, and

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they went over some specific mapping
stuff. Um we identified certain areas of

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the cemetery forum, identified the plot
sizes. So I feel like the cified quote

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is probably a little more accurate. It's
got a little more detailed scope of

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work. They know more of what they're
getting into. The sim sites quote is the

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lower quote, but it also has the caveat
in that first section there that

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anything not identified is $200 amount.
And so I'm a little worried that once

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they start on the implementation,
they're going to start seeing our

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records and our needs and oh well, this
is going to cost you additional $200 an

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hour. And in the quote, they didn't
specify any sort of allowance for that.

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Um, so that concerns me that that one
will actually end up costing more.

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That's just not as accurate. Also, um,
the Simifi,

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the annual subscription, so the
long-term cost for that is actually

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cheaper and we get five users with that
as opposed to the two with the SIM

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sites.
Um my proposal is is that the

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implementation cost of that uh would be
paid for out of the cemetery endowment

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fund. That endowment fund is meant for
the perpetual care of the cemetery. Um

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there's really no expenses coming out of
that fund. There certainly hasn't been

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any since I've been here as the clerk. I
don't know if Greg remembers anything.

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» I didn't have any either. So, we we keep
putting money into it, but no money's

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ever been coming out. Um, currently,
every uh cemetery burial and every

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cemetery block sold uh contributes to
both the the cemetery general fund, the

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cemetery endowment fund, and the
cemetery capital improvement fund. So

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every every permit and lots sold I'm
sorry sold is contributing to all three.

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That's also one of the reasons in the
fee schedule uh that you all approved I

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proposed the increase in those cemetery
uh fees to help pay for that ongoing uh

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subscription cost which it should cover
that. So that's that's my proposal. Um

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when we reviewed this it was pretty
comprehensive. that uh I basically

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maintained a subcommittee of myself um
director Carrie Goldston, Daryl the

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Sexton and Greg Timish who's the outdoor
facility foreman and uh we've all sat

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through the the demos and
our consensus is to uh visual fire with

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your
um if you could briefly I don't know if

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you have this information on you, but do
you know how much money is in each of

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those funds? The endowment capital.
>> Uh yeah, it's also in your um financial

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statement. So the endowment fund has
approximately $140,000.

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Okay.
The

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cemetery capital improvement fund has
$26,300.

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And then the cemetery is its operating
stat is within Virginia.

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» So So you're looking at at this 31,200
or maybe the 5year deal.

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» Uh we're looking at the semifi one which
is

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» $29,700
for the implementation and then $1,299

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per year thereafter.

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The sites one is a little bit lower like
I said, but I'm I'm just scared that

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there's

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» Well, that's interesting. because I'm
thinking it better.

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» When when you look at the sim sites, it
gets a little confusing.

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» What page are you on?
>> I'm on page 52

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and it says the software cost is 31,200.
That's because they're including five

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years worth of the annual subscriptions
plus the implementation

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because one one thing they said that
they would be willing to do is kind of

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finance that for 5 years. But I honestly
don't really see the need to do that

409
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when we have the cash balance fund to
cover that.

410
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:13,119
There was also um a grant that I was
aware of and Lesie and my work on that

411
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:18,880
and it is through the
sorry the daughters of the American

412
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:26,960
Revolution. I think that's what it is.
Um and that can cover up to $10,000 for

413
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:33,359
digitization of records. However, that
grant is not going to be available to

414
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:39,599
apply for until August and then it
wouldn't be awarded until May. And

415
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,920
myself and staff would be just need to
get this going. I would like to move

416
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:50,119
forward with it. Um
>> and then plus that is not guarantee that

417
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,119
you would get it or fulfilled

418
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:56,359
ever.

419
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:05,599
Even if you don't want to tie your
balance, you're still at 60 payments of

420
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:10,880
five that went well. But guess don't
matter whichever way you want to do it.

421
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,800
Yeah, I think with the balance of that
endowment that's a pretty significant

422
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:19,800
amount
just pay it. That's that's I think.

423
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:29,920
» So again, our recommendation is a SIM
SIMY software for $29,700

424
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:34,760
of implementation,
$1,299 per year thereafter.

425
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:50,960
» Yeah, that's on six week.
If we were to move forward and digitize

426
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:55,520
the plots and then years down the road
unable to continue financing maybe

427
00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:01,839
increased costs and it just didn't
justify what kind of bull it would be.

428
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:07,680
» I um asked about that and uh for both
sites uh we still own the data so we

429
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:14,000
would be able to get that data back in
Excel format. Okay. um and go from

430
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:21,359
there. And then we could always find
another vendor or somebody in the future

431
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:27,359
if that was needed and uh take that same
data and it would hopefully just upload

432
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:34,160
to the new version. But um I also did
ask about um security and both of the

433
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:38,640
sites are loosening the Amazon AMS
server. So there's redundancy in the

434
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:44,839
through spots across the US just like
our laser push

435
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,839
record repository system.

436
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:54,880
I will say that Dixie Worth used to be a
Rotarian. She is now deceased but she

437
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:59,280
was always in hopes that we build a some
kind of structure and have a book where

438
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:04,240
people visit and can find sites.
day gone by

439
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:08,480
» and and we talked about um like a kiosk
or something, but

440
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:13,200
» you know, with this software and cell
phones and tablets, we can have nice

441
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:18,640
signage out at the cemetery with a QR
code that just takes you right to that

442
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:23,119
site and you can I mean, they're within
Google Maps. It'll give you walking

443
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:30,560
directions on on how to get there. So,
it's a it's a pretty cool system. The

444
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:35,760
Sims site software offers a um within
their public portal, you can take

445
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:43,280
pictures of headstones and stuff like
that and up upload that and

446
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:51,119
city staff would approve those photos to
be uploaded. CIFI, the one that we are

447
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:57,440
um recommending, they actually link to
find agrave.com

448
00:38:53,040 --> 00:39:01,920
where that offers the same services.
>> Is this an annual contract that we sign

449
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:08,839
with them so prices can fluctuate
annually?

450
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,839
» Um I think it's something about

451
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:26,480
I think I read somewhere
about that there was a potential of 3%

452
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:29,480
uh inflation increases in May.
Awesome.

453
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:02,680
terms and conditions, payments and fees.
>> Yeah.

454
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:09,280
» Company agrees not to increase in annual
service fees from one term to the next

455
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:16,440
by an amount greater than the most
recent annual United States inflation

456
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:16,440
rate or 10% whichever is higher.

457
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:35,440
» Well, we have money.
question is will it drain that account

458
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,640
over next five years?
>> I don't think it's going to drain the

459
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,440
account and the only thing coming out of
the endowment fund is that

460
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:47,359
implementation
the annual fee that 1300 or thereabouts

461
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,640
is going to be coming out of the
cemetery operating fund out of the

462
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,560
general fund
>> which is going to be supported by the

463
00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:01,680
increased fees that you all right
>> um pass. Um the other thing that that I

464
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:06,720
really like is that it increases
access to records. It gives public

465
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,560
cemetery records is one of the most
requested

466
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:16,480
um open records that we get because
there's just so many folks that does the

467
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:21,760
genealogy stuff. So it it it would be
nice to bring some of us up and just

468
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:25,400
give them the ability to go through and
and do that.

469
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,720
Right.
I think it be it needs to be done. We we

470
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:38,319
had a deal with Daryl out there here a
while back on Larry's sister's grades.

471
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,839
It really
it's mess. I mean something needs to be

472
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:47,200
where you can look it up and see see
people.

473
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:53,680
» Yeah. And and the other thing too is
Daryl has so much institutional

474
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:58,560
knowledge and he is looking to hire in
the next couple of years and so it would

475
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:03,359
be really nice to get this stuff digital
within because I only know so much of it

476
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:06,240
too. So
are we looking for consensus or we need

477
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:13,000
a
>> I need I would like to have a motion to

478
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,000
move forward.

479
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:25,079
Yeah.
>> And if you look at that memo, I do have

480
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,079
a suggested commission.

481
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,400
We get to there

482
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680
$29,700.

483
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,599
Yeah.
Motion.

484
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:51,280
I make motion to approve
with the 75

485
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:56,560
for 297 and there 1,299
per year.

486
00:42:54,319 --> 00:43:02,800
Okay, we have a motion to approve
semifi. We have a second.

487
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:08,560
» Right. Motion to approve and a second.
All in favor say I. I. All oppose. Same

488
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,319
sign.
Motion passes to zero.

489
00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:25,440
All right. Next item on the agenda is
the clock tower bold out bid review.

490
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:29,200
» Mayor Ka, we in March solicited bids for
nuisance lawns mowing and the clock

491
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:34,079
tower bulb out. So we'll just take them
one at a time. First one was the bulb

492
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:40,000
out and clock tower maintenance. Um,
Babson's was the low bidder submitted a

493
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:45,599
bid of $6,900 for 2026,
which is the same amount that we

494
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:51,119
contracted for in 2024 and 225. We only
did we only received the one bid.

495
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:56,319
So, we would recommend approval of the
the Babson bid

496
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:59,319
for the clock tower clock tower
maintenance.

497
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:07,680
I'd make a motion to approve the clock
tower ball bid.

498
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:11,760
Okay, we have a motion to approve the
clock tower ball bid. Do we have a

499
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,200
second?
>> I'll second it.

500
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:19,280
» Have a motion, a second. I'll approve.
Say I.

501
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:24,079
» No. Have a discussion.
>> All right. Open it up for discussion.

502
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:30,160
» Thank you. Um yeah, just for a little
bit of history on this, um Commissioner

503
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:36,160
Hacker was a big one on using TIFF money
to maintain that park. Um since it's in

504
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:39,920
the TIFF district, we are within a
couple years done with the TIFF district

505
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:45,920
» 2028. Yeah.
>> So yeah, just as an FYI, going forward,

506
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:50,960
we won't be able to do this and it would
be under the maintenance and umbrella of

507
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:55,520
our parks department, I would think,
going forward. So

508
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:59,520
» yeah, and we had a tip board meeting
this last month, I think, and we we

509
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:04,880
looked at the finances and, you know,
ideally there's going to be money left

510
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:08,640
over that would continue on to pay
percentage of this maintenance as long

511
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:12,319
as we don't, you know, incur any other
big capital projects.

512
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:16,079
» Can you do that at the sunset of it? Can
you carry money forward?

513
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:19,040
I I'm under the impression you can, but
we'd probably have to ask our city

514
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:22,960
attorney about that because I don't
believe it'd be a situation where you'd

515
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:28,880
have to go out and find stuff to spend
that money on. But that's just my I

516
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:31,119
think you do have to turn it back.
>> You can't use it to continue to

517
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:37,520
maintain.
>> Turn it back to who?

518
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:43,040
» The three taxing entities. thingy that
>> which tax entities would

519
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:46,640
count.
>> Well, that's a big that's a big big

520
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:50,319
difference because I was under the
impression when we met the other day

521
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,599
that we would have that money to
continue to pay for tiff

522
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,920
responsibilities.
>> Don't believe so. Evan could give you

523
00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:03,599
the best answer, but we've talked about
that multiple times when we're doing the

524
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:07,599
bonding for park. Well, yeah, but it's a
good point and we'll we'll follow up on

525
00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:11,440
that because we would have that, you
know, for the next couple years anyway

526
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,599
and at that point in time, but it's
going to come under the, you know, I

527
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:22,000
mean, the city could do the work or we
contract without to do it. So,

528
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:25,680
» that's
I think as we get further in

529
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:30,000
conversations with the TIFF board on the
bulb out maintenance, which I isn't

530
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:34,480
really very good right now. they don't
look very nice. And the idea is to

531
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:38,400
improve that situation. Well, that just
increases your annual maintenance cost.

532
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:46,720
So, I'm glad you mentioned that because
I I was not wearing that actually.

533
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:49,720
» That's a big that's important point.
>> So,

534
00:46:51,920 --> 00:47:00,160
all right. So, we had a motion to
approve the clock tower. We had extended

535
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,240
discussion. Do we have a second?
Oh, you got a second.

536
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:08,319
» I seconded that.
>> You did second it. All right. You have a

537
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:15,280
motion and a second. All in favor say I.
I.

538
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:18,480
» All post same sign. Passes four to zero.
>> Right.

539
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:25,520
» Thank you. As I was late to this meeting
and appreciate it. Um on to number 6C,

540
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:30,880
nuisance lawn bid review. Again, mayor
council, we solicited for bids at this

541
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:36,400
back in in March. Um, and we received
only one bid and this is the nuisance

542
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:44,079
mowing for nuisance yards, tall weeds,
tall grass that we have. Um, uh, Red

543
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Rock Services was the loan bid at $225,
not to exceed $225 per lawn, and then

544
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:57,359
they had a $70 an hour for debris and
trash pickup. Last year, our contract

545
00:47:52,800 --> 00:48:02,880
was with Walner at $100 a lot and they
chose not to build this year. So, it's a

546
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:07,359
big increase. Um, and you know, I did a
little bit of background looking at what

547
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:12,560
other cities charge for this type stuff
and part of the idea is an incentive to

548
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:18,400
to not have us do it for property owners
to do it. But, you know, it ranges from

549
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:26,160
uh, you know, Pratt charges $125 per
lot. Um, uh,

550
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:31,760
Cheni is 150, Lions is 150 with a 2-hour
minimum, so they're at 300. And South

551
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Hutch was $100 per hour, but they had a
$250 admin fee on top of that. And so,

552
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:44,720
looking back, we had last year, we
didn't have that much activity there. We

553
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:50,079
had 21 millings that we build out at
that nuisance rate. So, it's not like

554
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:53,200
there's a lot of that happening. And uh
but

555
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:58,079
part of the problem I think with our
contract last year, um you know, the

556
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:02,400
mowers, they go into these lawns and
they're full of rocks and full of junk

557
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:06,640
and you know, you got to spend time
putting up to mow. It's not like just

558
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:11,839
going in and mowing a nicely irrigated,
you know, scratch yard that that we see.

559
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:17,200
So, um so it doesn't surprise me that
that is at that level. And again, these

560
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:22,480
are costs that we pass on to the
property owner. They pay or if they

561
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:27,839
don't, then we put it on taxes. And if I
look back last year, I think a high

562
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:31,119
percentage of ones that we did actually
paid. That's what I was going to ask is

563
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:34,319
what is our recovery rate on?
>> Yeah, I was just looking here. Um,

564
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:39,280
» and this is a straight pass through.
It's not something that we have to do on

565
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:47,680
that schedule that we did last time.
Okay. This is $2,100 is what uh and I

566
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:52,000
I'm not seeing on here that uh we had
any submitted to the county.

567
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,160
» No, we all
>> Nobody

568
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,559
» Oh, nobody paid.
>> Nobody.

569
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,599
» Oh, this is we paid the paid.
>> Okay.

570
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:06,160
» So, so we have no recovery.
>> Yeah. No, they they were all submitted

571
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:12,640
to the tax.
>> And so typically

572
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:17,040
» with with the $75 fee per invoice.
>> Yeah, that's already 75

573
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:21,200
» which covers the we have certified
mailings. Barry's got certified mailings

574
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:27,280
that go out and I have to send the
invoices certified.

575
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:31,920
» There's a lot of admin work we notices.
>> Okay. Okay. So, just clarify that gets

576
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,559
put on their taxes as a extra fee and
then they pay their taxes at the end of

577
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:40,000
the year.
>> Yes. And then if they don't pay, then it

578
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:44,559
goes towards the ability for the
sheriff's tax sale.

579
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:49,359
» So, that's one of the important reasons
to get this done and get them assessed

580
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:53,280
to the property. So, yeah,
>> because most of those properties are

581
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:58,880
dilapidated
condemnation. So it helps get those

582
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:02,839
properties mitigated as well.
>> Do we have some that pay?

583
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:13,839
» I mean they occasion
they actually did have uh the demolition

584
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:18,480
the last demolition that we did up on
auto they actually paid.

585
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:26,079
» So that was that was nice.
>> But even on long not Yeah. But over the

586
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:31,280
years then we've had this going on. We
put that assessment over them. Yes.

587
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:36,559
There has to be some turnover change say
where we should be getting money. Are is

588
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,440
it not making its way here? Are they not
aware of it? Is there a communication

589
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:43,760
issue?
>> I would I would assume I don't know how

590
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:48,319
does it work once once it goes to the
tax sale. points in just a tax sale.

591
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Then the purchaser has to pay everything
entirely on because if you recall this

592
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:58,640
two, three years ago, the Baptist bought
that church building behind there and

593
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:02,559
they came and asked the city to wave
those lawnm fees that were attached to

594
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:06,559
it. There was somebody else that did the
same thing and the commission for either

595
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:09,359
of those fees. I know it was done to at
least twice.

596
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:15,920
» Yeah.
>> There's also one on the one that we just

597
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:21,040
added to the link bank as well. So,
>> but even aren't the tax sales and that's

598
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:24,559
guaranteed money by no means because
most of those lots their tax sales I

599
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:30,319
didn't feel they cheap
>> it's it's lost money for the most part

600
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:36,640
even if like you said a lot of times you
negotiate way after they're going to do

601
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:41,440
something with the property whatever but
what it is it's a nuisance and we we we

602
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:48,480
do it to make the neighborhoods better
and you know it's just nature.

603
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:52,559
» Where's what fund system?
This a general fund. General

604
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:57,240
» Yeah,
>> I move for approval of the Red Rock bid.

605
00:52:57,359 --> 00:53:05,680
So,
>> we have a motion and a second to approve

606
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:09,240
the Red Rock bid for Newsome's Lawn.
Any other discussion?

607
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:17,839
» All those in favor say I. I.
>> All those opposed, same sign. Motion

608
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:21,680
passes 40.
All right. Depot Park landscape

609
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,400
contract.
>> Mayor Caps, I'm not sure exactly what

610
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:31,839
happened here, but the current contract
that I've been able to get a hold of

611
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:40,000
with BAPS was expired in 2024,
although they continue to provide the

612
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:45,040
service in 225 at the 224 price of 6540.
Um, we didn't put this out bid. I just

613
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:52,880
missed that when I was doing the other
ones. Um, they agreed to renew the

614
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:59,839
contract the same amount for 26,540.
I couldn't find anywhere where the 224

615
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:02,640
contract had been extended or approved
at some point.

616
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:06,880
» There's a clause and it can be extended
by your

617
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:11,440
» by written notice, but I never did find
any of that. So at this point in the

618
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:16,640
game as we're into the ming season and
recommending that we continue that

619
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:21,359
contract with BSONs and of course again
this is paid for out of the tiff tiff

620
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:29,280
money for this and so number three on
that says 8376

621
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:33,599
the the I mean the bull box I think was
the six.

622
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:39,720
» Did I say what did I say?
>> Yeah 6540 on the bull box. This is 83

623
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,319
3 8376.

624
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Damn. I I've got 69 on page 80

625
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,640
parking.

626
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,680
» Yes. three. Well, I I I want to make
sure

627
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:09,760
» the depot arc.
>> Yeah.

628
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:14,079
» Is the
>> 8766

629
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,599
I think. Yeah. My bad. I put the wrong
map.

630
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:22,720
» My bad.
>> And do we know if that's last year then?

631
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:26,160
» Yes. I verified with her. I I said,
"Hey, I just want to make sure that

632
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:32,359
you're good with the same price." And
she said yes.

633
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:32,359
Move for the approved def

634
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,040
which cost I'm confused.
>> 88,000

635
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:49,000
» is 88376.
>> Yeah, this document is correct.

636
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:49,000
» Yes, there. Yeah, the contract is

637
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:55,920
» you said this comes out of a tip fund.
>> Yeah. And again, that'll be one of those

638
00:55:55,119 --> 00:56:01,200
that
>> if we're not able to use addition and I

639
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:06,640
don't know what we're frustrated return
all that money back, but uh

640
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:11,040
then we can pay for maintenance now, but
not when it expires. So, we'll I'll

641
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,960
check that. All right, I'll second the
motion.

642
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:21,119
» All right, we have a motion and a second
to accept the depot park landscape

643
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:25,040
contract renewal. Any discussion?
I do have one thing. So, does that mean

644
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:31,119
kind of like we were talking on the
offer a little about bid review that

645
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:34,960
once this tip money is at um done, this
is going to go under the park payments?

646
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:38,799
At some point the city would have to
send that responsibility and somebody

647
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,319
did have a conversation with me that
they had heard maybe it's been talking

648
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:48,640
about the board that it would win the
tiff uh when it expires that the city

649
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:52,079
would be allowed to use tiff money to
buy a new the right kind of mower for

650
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:58,319
that property because it's a different
type of uh and and again I I don't know

651
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:04,799
anything about the legality of that but
is power

652
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:09,440
» well you know our part our motors are um
rough mowers and we I mean this is

653
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,839
irrigated. I think it's irrigated,
right?

654
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,760
» I would love to talk about that at some
point too because the water study showed

655
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:20,960
that we were putting a million gallons
of water

656
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:26,240
» on park
>> but it would it would go other

657
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:33,119
somebody's got to maintain it be
volunteer so it's going to be the city.

658
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,760
So yeah, well keep in mind that partic
>> Oh, that was not the splash pad. That

659
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,400
was
>> deeper. Yes, that it was a million a

660
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:45,440
piece. A million for the splash pad and
a million for the irrigation. And that

661
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,720
is a small amount of land putting a
million gallons of water.

662
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:57,359
» A million gallons.
>> Yes, that's what our large study said.

663
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:00,240
» Can we look into that? I'll get that.
Thank you. So the water

664
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:03,280
» it was in the water study that I think
Wilson did

665
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:04,240
» because water park doesn't recirculate.
This is

666
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:08,000
» right.
>> Yeah. There's no filter now.

667
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,480
» So
>> yeah.

668
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:14,760
» All right. So we have a motion and a
second. Any other discussions?

669
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:23,119
» All those in favor say I.
>> I. All those oppos same sign. Motion

670
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:28,000
passes 40.
All right. We have an addition to the

671
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,119
agenda. as a four-way stop for not with
G.

672
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:37,839
» Yeah. So, this was discussed um kind of
briefly made made off of probably

673
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:42,319
discussion last last commission meeting
and I went and I visited that

674
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:47,040
intersection and it was the intersection
that I thought it was. Um and I still

675
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,440
can't get my car over that bump very
well without slowing down. But that's me

676
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:56,240
and I can see definitely see situations
where other cars can speed up and down

677
00:58:53,119 --> 00:59:03,520
that road. I uh I wanted to bring that
forward to see if a four-way stop is

678
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:10,400
doable. I assume that this commission is
not in the habit of making decisions of

679
00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:15,440
where traffic signs are placed. I don't
think that that's something that we do.

680
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,400
It's something that we can do, but we
haven't executed that on every

681
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,839
intersection.
>> It requires an ordinance.

682
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:29,280
» It does required.
>> Okay. Is there a cost to adding a

683
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:36,160
four-way stop? What what would that be?
And there's also another option of

684
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:40,160
moving the stop signs um from on being
on point to being on G and then you

685
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:45,280
don't have people screaming up and down
G. They have to stop there at the

686
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:51,520
intersection and track and pass through
porn auto. So, there are options and I

687
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,839
wanted to bring that up to discussion
to see what the concerns are if we were

688
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,839
to do this and potentially resolve the
issue.

689
00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:07,200
I would love to see I know we're still
waiting on the um

690
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:12,160
the beam whatever you call the trailer
the trailer to be there but I would like

691
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:17,040
to before we make any decision I would
like to see the actual um data and

692
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:20,880
what's going on because I know when we
had this conversation on Broadway

693
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:25,599
somebody did come and talk about the
park and that they were also feeling

694
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:31,040
like people were speeding down Broadway
right next to that park.

695
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:37,119
But what we found was the actual data,
it was not as bad as what it seems. And

696
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:42,559
even Chief had mentioned that when
you're standing there, yeah, 30 mph

697
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:48,079
probably seems really fast, but when you
actually radar, it may not be like it

698
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:52,160
may just be 30. So, I would like to see
the date before we do anything.

699
01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:58,160
» Do we do we have a status update on that
trailer? I spoke with the under sheriff

700
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:02,480
today and uh he said that he was going
to try to get that issue resolved

701
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,680
tomorrow. That doesn't mean it's going
to be fixed tomorrow. That means he's

702
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:09,200
going to evaluate what it takes to get
it fixed. If it's just a battery, then

703
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:14,000
he should have that fixed within a
couple days. Uh if it's something

704
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:18,200
greater than that, then he didn't make
any promises as to a timeline.

705
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:26,160
» And I like I said, I I made stop at that
address. I watched traffic for a little

706
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:32,400
bit, visited with the residents in the
neighborhood, and luck of the jaw. We

707
01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:36,720
did see some officers, I think it was
probably the same officer, roll through

708
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:41,839
a couple times, so there was a police
increased angle's presence there. Um, I

709
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:46,079
did not personally witness anyone
speeding at the time. In fact, everyone

710
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:49,040
was kind of slowing down watching us.
So,

711
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:53,520
» yeah. Yeah,
>> I'm I'm fine with collecting data once

712
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,520
we have that availability.
>> Yeah.

713
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,680
» Any other discussion?

714
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:16,079
» All right. On to 7B tank project.
>> Okay. So, update on the tank project. Um

715
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:22,960
I I submitted for uh or I submitted a
gofunding page started one week from

716
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:27,280
today to to to raise trades enough
private funds to cover all the costs

717
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:34,640
that were quoted by our local contractor
and that's to pay for materials only

718
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:37,640
that GoFundMe page in a week's time has
accumulated

719
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:47,040
here last time that I checked it had
$575

720
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:50,880
accumulated from various donators. So,
we were we were moving pretty quickly on

721
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:56,960
that within a week. I did set the goal
at $2500. Um costs are going to fall

722
01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:00,640
probably around $2,000, not including
labor, but Aaron is going to bring in

723
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:05,200
additional labor. Aaron Parsons was the
local contractor.

724
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:10,000
So, at the same time, this Monday, I
went out to some businesses and just

725
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:16,240
kind of hit the streets. um asking who
would be interested in donating

726
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:21,240
and I was able to raise in checks a
total an addition of $2,975.

727
01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:30,799
So we have more than enough to cover the
repair of the tank, get it get it

728
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:37,200
properly finished for the 4th of July.
Um, I did also speak with the schools

729
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:43,520
and we do have a list of volunteers that
are going to participate on believe it

730
01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:48,079
is Friday, April 24th.
You verify that date. Yeah, Friday,

731
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:52,720
April 24th is the high school community
service day. So, they were going to come

732
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:56,880
down. I spoke with Aaron on what they
could do um to not interfere with the

733
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:03,920
professional work that we expect out of
him. And um one thing that they can do

734
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:08,319
to participate is mask that off. I
personally went out to visit the tank as

735
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:13,119
well. There's a lot to mask off. So
we're we looking at maybe a dozen

736
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:17,280
students coming out there. Um I also
spoke with Pizza Hut. They said they

737
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:21,839
will supply pizza for the kids, make an
event that they can remember and uh

738
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:28,640
hopefully pass torch on to the next
generation. I also within the last day

739
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:34,000
had the opportunity to climb inside the
tank and explore the condition of the

740
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:37,760
interior. Um, that was fun. That was a
bucket list item for myself and I would

741
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:42,559
have gone further into the tank, but I
already taken a shower for the day and I

742
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:47,599
was in and shorts and it probably wasn't
the safest environment to do that. But,

743
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:51,039
uh, it honestly it's not as bad as I
thought it was going to be. I thought it

744
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:56,480
was going to be a lot worse in there. Is
there rust in there? you know, there is

745
01:04:53,920 --> 01:05:00,400
um is it critical to the exterior
structure of the tank? No, I don't think

746
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:06,960
so. I think it could be wire brush and
we could put some kills on it and and

747
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:11,119
clean it up pretty quickly. So, if we if
we do end up having these extra funds,

748
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:14,960
that that's something that we can
explore to help seal that up and make

749
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:19,839
sure that it's taken care of for a
while. So, I just want to thank the

750
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:24,559
public for their interest in this
project and their their willingness to

751
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:29,280
support it. I was a little nervous going
out there based on rumors that I heard

752
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:33,760
on Facebook or what have been posted on
Facebook and everyone was extremely

753
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:37,440
thankful and gracious that this project
is underway. So,

754
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:42,240
» have you talked to the contractor? I
mean, which contractor you

755
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:48,480
dealing with? You talk with the local
one or a different contractor? I I

756
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:54,400
visited with two contractors and um
Aaron Parsons is he's the local one that

757
01:05:52,400 --> 01:06:00,880
is is really probably the best person to
do the job. Uh there I did send this

758
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:07,839
commission as well as city manager uh
paint specs and a statement of work from

759
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:10,799
Parsons so we you guys can review that
and see what's going on there. Some

760
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:17,599
something that may stick out definitely
caught my eye was the paint that he was

761
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:22,559
using had a semi- gloss on it and um
that's still being researched to get

762
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:29,920
that in a flat. It has to be a flat
enamel. So um but he is looking at doing

763
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:34,640
a a media blast to it. There's I I think
the two options are to pressure wash it,

764
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:39,680
which is what the the contractor in
Chase County had recommended. It's just

765
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:43,280
running a pressure wash and then priming
and painting the tank. And then the

766
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:48,720
second option is to do the media blast
on it. If we were to pressure wash it,

767
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:54,240
the the product that he suggests putting
on there could last 15 to 20 years. If

768
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:58,559
we were to sand blast it or media blast
it, then we're looking at adding

769
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:04,480
potentially another 10 years of service
life to the paint that additional

770
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:11,000
inventory. So it will last a generation
a generation from now can then make a

771
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:11,000
decision if they want to pay for tank.

772
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:25,599
» All right. any managers report.
>> Uh commission a couple things. Uh next

773
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:32,880
it's April 17th we've got a pre-bid
conference at the airport um for the

774
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:37,079
uh taxiway extension project and that'll
be Lochman Matt Jacobs

775
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:43,039
» Lner
>> Lner. author will be there and there'll

776
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:46,880
be just interested contractors out there
that listen and learn about the project

777
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:51,280
as they begin to prepare a little bit
for that. So, and it'll be at the at the

778
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:57,599
airport itself.
Um, in front of you, I've put a budget

779
01:07:53,599 --> 01:08:03,119
calendar just a proposal um and kind of
wanted to get it in place so uh Daniel

780
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:07,920
will have something to go with and we'll
get that process started at the staff

781
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:13,599
level. And really, I think what the
commission needs to be aware of is I've

782
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:18,480
got a couple of dates there. Um, June
18th and July 2nd was what I call budget

783
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:22,640
study session and and that is not a
regular city commission day, but

784
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:27,359
obviously you guys are going to have to
decide if those work on your schedule.

785
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:32,000
But the idea behind that is to really
have the commission and the city

786
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,920
manager, city clerk and various
department heads just to talk about

787
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:41,040
individual aspects of the budget in in
more detail as opposed to trying to do

788
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:45,759
it all uh in our regular meetings and
kind of do it piece by piece because

789
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:51,279
it's a it's a process. I think this year
is going to be extremely difficult for

790
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:57,199
you particularly in light of maybe it's
not even until next year the be called

791
01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:02,560
uh levy will be or the bonds would be
coming do we're going to once they uh

792
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:07,679
issue permanent financing on those and I
did talk with our financial advisor

793
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:14,880
today and you know that can be moved out
to to 228 as well but we're still paying

794
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:20,080
interest on 10 minutes so um that's
going to be a big big issue for us for

795
01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:26,239
you to look at. So again, that's just a
temporary or just a proposal and uh as

796
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:30,960
Daniel and the staff get more into the
budget process, they'll be talking to

797
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:36,000
you about whether those dates can work.
But but again, I hope you guys are open

798
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:40,640
to the idea of doing that in more of a
study session format. I mean, they're

799
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:45,440
obviously open to public meetings, but
it would be just a little less uh less

800
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:51,759
well known, if you will. Sure.
Um, fourth July, I've been working with

801
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:54,960
Dena on that. Um, and we're coordinating
the special event application and

802
01:09:53,600 --> 01:10:00,800
there's various things that come to
that. One of those is uh the special

803
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:04,880
event uh CMB application that she's got
to go through once we get that done. I'd

804
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:09,520
like to bring that all to this
commission all at once so we can approve

805
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:13,120
everything at once. We'll also have uh
working on trash containers, getting

806
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:17,120
those donated. Actually, not donated.
We'll have those available through uh

807
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:23,040
waste connections. They provide some
special stuff for us. And then also

808
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:27,520
there's an issue on port funding um the
cost of those and dean is working on

809
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:31,199
that. May have an estimate maybe a
request for the city to help with that

810
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:36,400
and maybe the possibilities of that
being donated as well. Um, and then the

811
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:42,080
last thing on that is working with KOT
on uh the uh highway closure there. And

812
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:46,800
I've contacted the district office in
Pratt and got a call back as to what

813
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:50,880
we've got to do to make that happen. I
don't know when the last time we've had

814
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:56,320
the highway closed, but I'm sure we've
done it before on

815
01:10:52,320 --> 01:11:00,640
» just a couple years ago they had a
>> Yeah. So I don't think there'll be any

816
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:07,199
issue even and I think the chief has an
idea of diverting that traffic to the

817
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:11,280
Bruce.
>> Uh it depends on the direction but yeah

818
01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:15,040
we'll divert it to the two side roads.
>> Yeah. So, so once we get all that, but

819
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:19,199
I'd like to have that all done. And Dina
said she probably would come back to the

820
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,040
commission with all that be a first
meeting in May possibly and we'll have

821
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:29,280
her I've invited her to a department
head meeting to kind of talk about all

822
01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:33,920
our needs, all our staff all pay.
I I will say with

823
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:40,000
that stuff that's going on with the
fourth, um the city does have a

824
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:47,440
centennial fund that was set up with the
last big celebration and there are still

825
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:51,679
$12,000 set in that fund that I city
attorney can correct me if I'm wrong,

826
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:55,360
but I would assume that that fund would
be available for this sort of cleaning

827
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:59,360
as well.
>> That's the money that was left. I

828
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:05,520
chaired the 125th celebration for
attainment and that was the money we had

829
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:10,960
left that we had turned fundraised for
and went into the city under that in

830
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:15,199
anticipation of the 150th of the city
but

831
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:21,120
it's been there for 25 years been there
for 25 years

832
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:25,440
» then we use that on the park use it for
you want

833
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:29,199
» you won't let me use tip money for for
this but for as we can.

834
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,239
» I was just thinking like with the little
obvious

835
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:36,480
» Yeah, that could be could be a request.
So, yeah, but but we'll we'll package

836
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:41,120
out all and bring it together at one
time so we're not looking at different

837
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:46,560
things all over the place. So,
the last thing I had mayor was Tim um

838
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:51,760
and one of his staff members were in
Attaka today. Um we've been asked via KP

839
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:55,760
to help them out. They had a situation
where they lost their electrical

840
01:12:53,760 --> 01:13:01,120
suitable attendant and couple of the
linemen walked out. So Tim went there to

841
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:05,840
meet with them and basically we're on
kind of an on call if they need

842
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:10,880
something. It's not anything major. Um
city of Wellington is the other one you

843
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:14,080
have as well. So just wanted to be aware
of that. But that's one of the

844
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:20,560
advantages of being a member of KPPP
because we reciprocate. We may need that

845
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:25,679
one day and and helpless. So, I don't we
don't anticipate it being anything

846
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:29,040
significant. Um, but if there is a call
for something in the meantime, I'm not

847
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:32,640
sure how long they think it's going to
be before their staff back up. It'll be

848
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:37,520
a while, I suspect. So,
>> I think they said they got a guy come

849
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:44,320
May 4th, but he doesn't he doesn't know
anything about electric eer. So,

850
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:48,000
» well, that's that's helpful for them.
>> But anyway, I just wanted to be aware of

851
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:52,000
that. Appreciate Tim's effort with that.
But again, I think it's an advantage of

852
01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:54,880
being a part of the AP group because one
day we're going to need, you know, we're

853
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:59,440
going to be banned. Well, probably
already received. Well, I know we did

854
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:04,719
not too long ago on the the was covered
by insurance, but we got a lot of help

855
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:08,840
on that. So, um, and that's, uh, all I
have,

856
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,840
» right,

857
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:16,239
» commissioner comments? Commissioner W,
>> since you brought up the lines. Um, I'm

858
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:21,920
sorry. I drove out on Northwest 20th and
just, you know, we talked about the

859
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:27,360
poles and so they're pretty frequent. Is
it that way all the way to Cunningham?

860
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:34,159
» No, we put we added extra poles in
between to try to stop that.

861
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:38,239
» So, this corridor up to 11 then really,
that's where we added poles. Yes. Okay.

862
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:42,640
It just Okay. And I didn't go all the
way out.

863
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:50,199
That was the only question. Yeah.
>> Did you drive part of it? Look at

864
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,199
» 13 dragon. It was a good place.

865
01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:03,840
» Nothing.
>> Yeah. I I um I just really wanted to

866
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:08,800
thank again the public for all the
contributions and helping contain

867
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:15,600
situation resolved to raise
roughly $3,500 in less than a week is is

868
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:20,960
very impressive. So, very generous
community. I appreciate everyone who has

869
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:26,719
provided their input to make sure this
project was done professionally and and

870
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:30,080
last for generations. I'm really looking
forward to the opportunity to work with

871
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:35,440
the kids and help make memories with
them.

872
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:40,880
Also thinking of the uh Fourth of July,
I probably need to get with some

873
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:47,040
representative that may have some kind
of a list together. But I did speak with

874
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:51,040
a Lieutenant Colonel Montgomery of the
National Guard and he is asking me a

875
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:56,320
question of how many rounds do we need
for their pack 75K

876
01:15:53,920 --> 01:16:00,480
if he will he has volunteer equipment to
come in and fire it off as part of our

877
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:05,280
selfish
is there and I don't know I mean I'm

878
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:12,159
Dean is working on the theater but is
there a bigger celebration group

879
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:17,760
» the chamber has something that morning I
I think that's really where these um

880
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:20,480
service people were for listening with
the chamber thing.

881
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:25,520
» The chamber, they still don't have an
official list for 26. They just have the

882
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:29,280
25 version from what I could see. Okay.
I have reached out to them. I've gone to

883
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,320
one of their meetings, but if we could
coordinate with that, but then also with

884
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:37,440
what else is
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll make a note of

885
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:42,560
that. See? Yeah.
because Dena is just I think working on

886
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:47,000
the theater part of it that's gonna be
involved there. So yeah.

887
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,000
» Okay.

888
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:56,880
» All right. That's all I have. Thank you.
>> And I have nothing tonight either. So I

889
01:16:54,080 --> 01:17:01,120
would entertain a motion to adjourn.
>> Motion to journ.

890
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,719
» All those in favor say I.
>> I.

891
01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:08,640
» I. All those opposed same sign. Motion
passes for

892
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,640
sure.
Yes.