1 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:45,930 Good afternoon and welcome to our May Heritage Kitchener meeting. This afternoon we're pleased 2 00:00:45,930 --> 00:00:57,950 to have with us our reps who are going to talk about Victoria Park. And I just encourage 3 00:00:57,950 --> 00:01:09,190 everyone that, you know, if you have questions, we know the rules and how we do our reports 4 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:16,950 and so on and so forth. So, again, for the audience, people interested 5 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:24,190 in participating in future meetings can register online using the Delegation Registration 6 00:01:24,190 --> 00:01:34,250 form www.kitchener.ca delegation or via email at delegation at kitchener.ca. 7 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:44,470 So first item of business, we would like to know if anybody has a disclosure of pecuniary 8 00:01:44,470 --> 00:01:47,750 interest and the general nature thereof. 9 00:01:47,750 --> 00:01:57,430 of. So are there any pecuniary interest? Seeing none, we'll proceed to the delegation. 10 00:01:59,710 --> 00:02:00,790 And 11 00:02:00,790 --> 00:02:13,650 what we're going to do is go straight to this presentation on Victoria Park. And you have 12 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:19,350 as your agenda item, Heritage Consultation Memo for Victoria Park Master Plan. 13 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:30,350 And we have two of our staff who are going to present because they've both been involved 14 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:31,890 in this item. 15 00:02:32,670 --> 00:02:41,250 We have Michelle Drake, our Senior Heritage Planner, and Karen Lisa, Landscape Architect. 16 00:02:41,250 --> 00:02:48,130 So each of them will present, and we do have a five-minute presentation. 17 00:02:48,310 --> 00:02:54,290 However, I would think that this item may take longer than the five minutes. 18 00:02:55,070 --> 00:03:01,450 And since we don't have a long agenda, I will open it up, 19 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:05,090 and you do what you have to do to present. 20 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:06,470 All right. 21 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:09,730 So, Michelle, are you going to present first? 22 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:14,760 We're going to present together. 23 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:22,170 Karen and Melissa and Michelle, please. 24 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:30,330 Thank you, Jean, for that introduction. 25 00:03:30,870 --> 00:03:39,670 So both myself and Ms. Lizard are here tonight to talk about the Victoria Park Master Plan 26 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:47,970 and the Heritage Review that was undertaken by the firm of Archaeological Services Inc. 27 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:55,470 ASI. The purpose of our presentation today is to not walk you through every single recommendation 28 00:03:56,190 --> 00:04:04,630 of the Draft Master Plan but rather to sort of highlight the theme areas and the findings 29 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:12,650 as they relate to heritage with respect to ongoing work with the overall Victoria Park 30 00:04:12,650 --> 00:04:14,630 master plan review process. 31 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:26,460 So as I mentioned, ASI was retained to assess how 32 00:04:26,460 --> 00:04:32,860 the draft Victoria Park Master Plan recommendations aligned with, as you know, 33 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:37,780 the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District Plan policies and 34 00:04:37,780 --> 00:04:45,300 guidelines. The review identified a few different things. One being, or I guess 35 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:50,880 the purpose story of the review was to identify if there were any potential conflicts, but 36 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,460 it also identified and looked at opportunities where we may be able to strengthen the heritage 37 00:04:56,460 --> 00:05:01,980 character that we see in Victoria Park today and in the broader Heritage Conservation District 38 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:03,340 throughout the process. 39 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:14,330 In terms of context, this committee should be fairly familiar that Victoria Park is 40 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:21,830 the city's oldest park. It was established in the 1890s and forms a central feature within 41 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:28,070 the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District. The plan that applies in that district 42 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:34,150 identifies the park as a romantic landscape and then it mentions that it's characterized 43 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:41,270 by things like the naturalistic forms, the meandering pathways, wooded areas, open 44 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:48,370 lawns, framed vistas, and then it mentions the lake as a focal point within the park 45 00:05:48,370 --> 00:05:49,070 and the district. 46 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,440 I'm going to turn it over to Karen for now. 47 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,400 All good? 48 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:03,780 Okay. 49 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:05,020 Thanks, Michelle. 50 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:06,700 Good afternoon. 51 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:12,260 Thank you for taking the time to hear about the master plan and the progress we've made 52 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,820 since we last met in November of 2025. 53 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:23,840 I just wanted to bring some additional information to the committee in terms of the recommendations 54 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:28,560 that we've brought forth and how it relates to what Michelle had just mentioned about 55 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,420 the Heritage Review. 56 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:37,040 As far as the process for the project, since we last met, we were working through draft 57 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,600 recommendations. 58 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:44,080 So we'd finalized phase one and phase two, and we were validating all the data we 59 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,960 had collected from those two phases and drafting recommendations based on capital, policy and 60 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:58,140 strategic initiatives. We worked through an internal stakeholder process where we verified 61 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:03,440 that information and basically circled back to those folks in our working group and made 62 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,960 sure that we weren't missing anything. And then we're looking at a prioritization of 63 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:16,580 those recommendations. So in terms of the internal stakeholder verification, we worked 64 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:24,040 through, like I mentioned, the internal working group, but also feedback from our CLT, our 65 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:32,200 corporate leadership team. And then, as Michelle mentioned, we jointly retained ASI to look 66 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,360 at the overall recommendations and are here today for our second update. 67 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:42,500 And concurrently are working on the document in the background just to make sure that we 68 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:44,460 meet our June 1st deadline for council. 69 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,060 Next slide. 70 00:07:47,740 --> 00:07:54,560 So in terms of the internal stakeholder verification, that was in March that we went individually 71 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:01,820 to heritage planning staff, economic development, our parks operations staff, as well as transportation. 72 00:08:02,660 --> 00:08:09,620 Those four were sort of key groups that we had heard from in our engagement process that 73 00:08:09,620 --> 00:08:14,480 had a lot of input when it came to some of those recommendations, and we wanted to make 74 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:21,100 sure that what we were presenting aligned with staff's thoughts and strategic goals 75 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:28,860 as well. And then CLT came in April where we confirmed support and or revisions to some 76 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:34,480 of those recommendations, keeping in mind that the 43 recommendations that we presented 77 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:42,860 in our memo to this committee as well as to ASI have since been refined. But we will 78 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:47,120 move forward with the original list that we had presented just so we can have that 79 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,980 discussion if there's any specific questions. And then, again, in April, we were working 80 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:59,120 with ASI to make sure that we had that reference point for committee today. Next slide. 81 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:08,200 So as I mentioned, the 43 original recommendations, there was 25 capital, nine strategic, and 82 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,780 nine policy. Of those, they're covered under the topics to the right. I know that's 83 00:09:13,780 --> 00:09:20,760 kind of small text but it gives you an understanding of the depth of the engagement and the feedback 84 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:28,800 we received last year and how we sort of grouped those topics and moved forward in providing 85 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,720 recommendations that align with what we heard internally and externally from the public. 86 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:36,140 Next slide. 87 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:40,090 I guess I'll pass it back to Michelle. 88 00:09:40,090 --> 00:09:41,050 So, 89 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:51,100 in terms of the overall findings, what ASI reported back to us was that the majority 90 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:58,820 of the draft recommendations found in the draft Victoria Park Master Plan were not inherently 91 00:09:58,820 --> 00:10:04,720 in conflict with the policies that this committee is familiar with within the Victoria Park 92 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Area Heritage Conservation District Plan. 93 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:14,400 many of the recommendations actually present opportunities where we may be 94 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:21,280 able to restore and or improve and enhance the character within the park in 95 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:27,960 the broader district. The primary risk that they did share was the idea of 96 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:34,160 like cumulative impact so the idea that if there are numerous small and or 97 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,300 or uncoordinated changes in the park, 98 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:42,240 that their collective impact could be a concern, 99 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,040 and specifically with respect to the idea 100 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,300 of cumulative visual clutter. 101 00:10:53,550 --> 00:10:56,450 So some of the key considerations that were outlined 102 00:10:56,450 --> 00:11:01,190 were related to focusing on protecting the Victoria Park 103 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:03,410 in terms of its landscape elements. 104 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:06,530 So looking at maintaining views to, 105 00:11:06,530 --> 00:11:14,330 from and around the lake preserving the open grassy sweeps such as the commons 106 00:11:14,330 --> 00:11:20,290 and the meadow retaining the wooded areas and then protecting the important 107 00:11:20,290 --> 00:11:26,550 vistas. Also of interest is the pathways where we would like to continue to see 108 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:31,170 them meandering in their alignment instead of being perhaps you know 109 00:11:31,170 --> 00:11:35,570 straightened or hard angles, and ideally not 110 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:38,930 over widening of the pathways as they exist today, 111 00:11:39,770 --> 00:11:42,450 and where new structures may be proposed, 112 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:46,690 that there be thoughtful consideration to the need 113 00:11:46,690 --> 00:11:50,930 and then careful consideration of the appropriate location 114 00:11:50,930 --> 00:11:52,570 for those new structures. 115 00:11:57,070 --> 00:12:00,630 And so with respect to some of the details 116 00:12:00,630 --> 00:12:08,470 around these changes, the guidance emphasized compatibility rather than a 117 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:16,030 replication of historic styles. So looking at new or replacement elements that 118 00:12:16,030 --> 00:12:23,350 are high quality, natural materials, muted tones, historically appropriate tones 119 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:28,130 like those suggested in the Heritage Conservation District Plan, and gave 120 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:35,270 these examples of like park furniture and signage looking to sort of coordinate how their design 121 00:12:35,270 --> 00:12:42,810 happens and vegetation strategies that can also help us reinforce that romantic landscape 122 00:12:42,810 --> 00:12:49,830 while still integrating some of the ecological and forestry best practices that the city would 123 00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:51,430 like to achieve. And 124 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:58,500 with that I will turn it back to Karen. 125 00:13:01,630 --> 00:13:04,650 Great thanks Nichelle. So this 126 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:10,730 Next slide references the active play zone in the back, like southern portion of the park. 127 00:13:12,070 --> 00:13:19,250 In speaking to Michelle's previous slide about designing with a thoughtful approach and in 128 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:28,430 context of the space, we had some conversations about prioritizing work and with the picnic 129 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:34,930 shelter that has recently come down and some of the other capital life cycle replacements 130 00:13:35,650 --> 00:13:43,190 at the back end in this zone that we're referring to. We were looking to find efficiencies in 131 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:48,190 making improvements and for lack of a better phrase, getting the most bang for our buck 132 00:13:48,190 --> 00:13:56,190 in terms of that space. We know the following to be true currently in that existing location 133 00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:57,850 in Victoria Park. 134 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:00,630 So the picnic shelter was removed last fall 135 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:02,530 due to its age and safety concerns. 136 00:14:04,190 --> 00:14:06,730 The splash pad needs a complete overhaul. 137 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:08,630 It's at the end of its life cycle as well. 138 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:12,130 The playground's rubber eye surfacing needs repairs 139 00:14:12,390 --> 00:14:15,030 and a few minor play elements need to change. 140 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:18,130 The trail surface needs repairs 141 00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:20,910 and there's some user conflicts there as well. 142 00:14:21,870 --> 00:14:24,670 Seating improvements and basketball court improvements 143 00:14:24,670 --> 00:14:32,470 for all sort of highlighted is initial targeted capital work that can be, we can look at funding 144 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:36,650 within a short term period. Next slide. 145 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:43,110 So it's hard to see from this slide up that high but 146 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:50,010 we've tried to outline the like general area in context of the entire park itself 147 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:56,490 Really, just including the playground, the splash pad area, the picnic shelter, the existing 148 00:14:56,490 --> 00:14:59,970 basketball court, the... 149 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,260 The machine shop. It's all sort of working together in conjunction with some of those life 150 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:13,840 cycle efficiencies that we are looking at moving forward. Next slide. 151 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,300 So with that, we're really 152 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:26,300 focusing on, for the master plan, bringing forward a bit of a conceptual overview of that 153 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:33,620 space. We don't have specific finalized design to be presented in the master plan itself, 154 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,980 but it's more of a conceptual understanding that we'd like to move forward with. Each 155 00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:45,420 one of those individual capital projects we'll talk to our colleagues in heritage planning 156 00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:50,120 and understand if the process would be to bring that forward to heritage each like 157 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:57,180 in an individual sense or as a collective, we want to make sure that the point that Michelle 158 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:04,840 made about cumulative impacts that were being cognizant of that and that as a whole we are 159 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,100 making good choices in terms of the design and the final impact of the park itself. 160 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,120 So the picnic shelter, we're looking at upgrading that to match the aesthetic of 161 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:24,900 existing park buildings similar to the recently renovated bandstand and shifting that structure 162 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:31,040 away from the machine shop as it's not in an ideal location currently. It's kind of pushed to the 163 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:38,020 farthest back corner of the park. The summer kitchen considering potentially a new use there 164 00:16:38,020 --> 00:16:44,080 or location to support the Indigenous people's gathering space and the active play zone that 165 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:50,820 I referenced, for the play area specifically, we'd like to move the swings a little bit 166 00:16:50,820 --> 00:16:55,780 closer to the existing play area because currently they are not meeting accessibility requirements 167 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:04,080 and open up that VISTA as the Heritage District Plan references, VISTAs and sweeps of grass. 168 00:17:04,580 --> 00:17:12,040 We want to alleviate some issues with accessibility and consolidating those play 169 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:19,480 areas, improving maintenance for our staff, but also kind of improving that VISTA at the 170 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:19,940 same time. 171 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,420 And as well as the seating options around the playground and the splash pad that would 172 00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:29,780 kind of concurrently work in tandem with those upgrades. 173 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:36,480 The splash pad replacing what's existing, but adjacent to the playground. 174 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,300 The basketball. 175 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:46,480 We'll look at that as more of a dedicated team area close to the outdoor exercise equipment 176 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,240 that's existing. 177 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:54,600 And then the trail piece, keeping in mind the point made about meandering pathways and not 178 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:02,780 expanding widths where absolutely not necessary, but looking at mitigating pedestrian conflicts 179 00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:05,840 and improving the surfaces where we can. 180 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,220 Next slide. 181 00:18:08,820 --> 00:18:15,440 So this is just an example, and I believe heritage committee might have seen this previously, 182 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:23,720 but we're looking at a Canadian supplier, ShaveView, that could potentially provide 183 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,560 a replacement for the existing picnic shelter. 184 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,460 We've discussed materiality and wish list options with our facilities management staff. 185 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:43,420 So they've given us an understanding of what they'd like to see in terms of power, lighting, durability, specs as they relate to a new structure in the park. 186 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:53,320 But we'll also obviously be considering the aesthetic to be consistent with, like Michelle had mentioned, the existing buildings and structures in the park. 187 00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:59,480 whether that be cedar shingles or stone cladding of the base, something that 188 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,860 really fits within the context of the park next slide. And this is just another 189 00:19:05,860 --> 00:19:12,740 alternative with a metal structure roof but there's you know there's a lot of 190 00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:18,120 different opportunities to work with this supplier to achieve an aesthetic 191 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:25,060 that's agreeable to Heritage and to all those stakeholders as well. Next slide. 192 00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:28,120 I think that's an alternative over to Michelle. 193 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,420 And so I guess in conclusion 194 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:40,280 what came out of the Heritage review was that as the draft 195 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,020 recommendations are presented now they will not detract from the Heritage 196 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:52,900 character and in some instances will actually create these opportunities to enhance the heritage 197 00:19:52,900 --> 00:20:00,380 character. Most of the changes that Karen had described are located in that south end 198 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:09,040 of Victoria Park and when we move forward with implementation of the recommendations, 199 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:19,700 we will need to consider, you know, what is the right process so that we have that bird's-eye view of the park as a whole 200 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:31,900 and can understand sort of the cumulative impact of changes that might be more minor over time, but collectively, you know, could have a larger impact. 201 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:35,840 And then depending as well on the scope of change, 202 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:44,840 whether those changes are things that would be considered under our delegated approval authority bylaw 203 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:53,860 and or whether the scope of change requires consideration through the Heritage Committee and potentially council. 204 00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:59,700 So that is the conclusion of the presentation by staff. 205 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:09,920 We do have our consultant here, if there are questions with respect to the memo that you 206 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:16,680 may want to address to the delegation, Karen and I are obviously available if there's questions 207 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:23,420 of staff, but generally we just like to open it up to the committee for comments and questions. 208 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:24,240 Thank 209 00:21:32,330 --> 00:21:43,490 you and it gives us a really good overview of both the practical and the heritage items. 210 00:21:44,290 --> 00:21:54,170 So I will open it up to committee for questions or comments, observations, and sure, Councillor 211 00:21:54,170 --> 00:21:54,730 Chatlin. 212 00:21:56,110 --> 00:22:02,270 Yeah thank you and thank you for this report. I just have a few questions and 213 00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:10,030 maybe it's too early to answer them but there's mention of signage. I hope we 214 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,970 can keep that to a minimum, can we? 215 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,160 Through the chair, I think what the 216 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,360 recommendation is is to have a consolidated and comprehensive approach 217 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,840 and I think that idea would be to sort of minimize the signage but also likely 218 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:37,040 have sort of a consistent approach where we do introduce signs so that we 219 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,720 reduce that visual clutter both in terms of number but also in terms of like 220 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:48,160 design or style if that makes sense. Okay yeah just I'd hate to see the 221 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:55,020 park full of signs. It's a large park but it's not that big I guess. You 222 00:22:55,020 --> 00:23:00,320 mentioned that the basketball area would be closer to the outdoor exercise area 223 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,560 and I was just wondering if that would in any way impact the the parking in that 224 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,320 area right now. 225 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Yeah I can take that. So we're looking at kind of adjacent to the 226 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,920 existing parking lot. It won't impact the parking specifically it's just a 227 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,860 kind of a shift closer to that space, 228 00:23:23,060 --> 00:23:26,180 so it reads as more of a consistent youth-focused space. 229 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,920 But yeah, no specific concerns about parking impacts. 230 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,100 Okay, great. 231 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,560 There's no mention of barbecues or outdoor, 232 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,560 I don't know if they're not called barbecues, 233 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:42,260 but pits, fire pits. 234 00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:46,880 Have we decided not to do that? 235 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,920 So that's kind of come in tandem 236 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:59,060 with the picnic shelter I believe. We have sort of dedicated coal locations. There's a lot of 237 00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:08,420 independent sort of multi-generational gatherings that we've seen over the last few years in the 238 00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:16,640 park and people bringing their own facilities with them to the space. We do have a 239 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,460 the Parks Master Plan does provide some information in terms of like moving 240 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:28,140 forward with the pilot for that piece as well. So I don't know if Markey likes to 241 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:32,600 speak to that in more detail. I think there's room for minor improvements such 242 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200 as that. So we didn't hear an outcome specifically for barbecues. We know it's 243 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,300 used but a permanent facility like that we can certainly add it after the 244 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:43,580 fact. It doesn't necessarily have to be part of the larger strategic plan. So 245 00:24:43,580 --> 00:24:46,880 So if it's a grassroots initiative or something maybe you hear from constituents, we're happy 246 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,120 to place it in a location like that. 247 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:50,960 Okay. 248 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,920 Because I do think, as Karen said, there are a lot of multi-generational families that 249 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,640 do use the park. 250 00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:56,900 Yeah. 251 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,460 Well, you know, hold parties and that sort of thing. 252 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:04,480 So it would be nice if they had that infrastructure available to them. 253 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,940 I couldn't hold off if others have questions. 254 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:09,060 No? 255 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:09,880 Okay. 256 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,780 What about the multi-use trail? 257 00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:15,520 What ideas do you have for that? 258 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,980 Because I know it can be there is conflict 259 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:22,980 with pedestrians and e-bikes in particular, 260 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,960 or e-scooters. 261 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,240 We are looking at, as part of that southern portion 262 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,640 in the active play zone, 263 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,240 to have a sort of bypass trail 264 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760 around the backside of that space 265 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,920 if we can consolidate it closer together. Still meandering in a way, but I think that 266 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,640 that would really help the conflicts we're seeing with pedestrians and e-scooters and 267 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840 the entrance from the parking lot near the pavilion. There's a lot going on in that 268 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:01,740 space. There's a lot of crossover to the washroom facility if that becomes a change 269 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:07,720 room in the future or if we look at retrofit for that building. There's even more sort 270 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,240 crossover of pedestrians in that space and we're seeing that through our like 271 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:18,740 sensor technology as well so I think that that provides even more data behind 272 00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:24,980 making a change there in terms of the pathway and providing a better 273 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:31,060 connection from the iron horse trail around that space to neighboring side 274 00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:36,140 streets and to the rest of the park. Right okay and what about the 275 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:43,200 indigenous people's gathering space? I know one concern when it was sort of an 276 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:50,120 impromptu arrangement was the close proximity to the kids play area. So 277 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:56,560 would it be moved back slightly to avoid that conflict? So our colleague Carol 278 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Bacon is managing that piece and the location is indigenous lead in terms of 279 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:12,060 I'm citing that appropriately and it's quite a distance away from the playground in an open 280 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,900 green space that I think we're going to have a communication of that publicly in the next 281 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:19,460 couple of days. 282 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:26,100 So yeah, we'll have a better understanding publicly of where that will be and where 283 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,840 it'll be cited and what the materiality and the design will look like. 284 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,660 Right. My other question had to do with the Victoria Park Working Group. They haven't seen 285 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:41,760 this yet. Will they be seeing it before it comes to Council in June? I forget when the 286 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:48,040 next meeting is. The entirety of the master plan? Well, at least, like, we can, I was 287 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:56,500 aiming to for post heritage committee to forward ASI's report if I think that that we can 288 00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:02,600 keep that internal to the working group, but I think if need be, we would share that 289 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:02,880 as well. 290 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:03,560 Okay. 291 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,360 Thank you. 292 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:06,380 I think it's, you've done a great job. 293 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:07,000 Thanks. 294 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:11,330 Thank you. 295 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:12,530 Councilor Chapman. 296 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:16,590 Are there any other questions, comments? 297 00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:21,150 Yes. 298 00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:28,420 I just had a question about the, it was noted that there was potential for land 299 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:33,260 acquisition and expansion of the park beyond the railway, keeping in mind that it 300 00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:37,360 be differentiated from the rest of the park if that happens from like a heritage perspective. 301 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,040 I wondered if that is something that is being actively pursued or is it just a hypothetical 302 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,740 depending on how things work out for some of these these plants. 303 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:51,360 It is being pursued but it's part of the larger city initiative just because the 304 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,100 resources to acquire properties is finite so it's not just Victoria Park it's across the 305 00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:02,720 city so it is being considered realistically and actively just as part of the larger picture. 306 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,860 Okay, thank you. 307 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,100 Thank you, Preston. 308 00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:10,840 Any other questions? 309 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,240 I have one or two. 310 00:29:15,980 --> 00:29:20,700 With respect to the picnic shelter, I'm sure that's a capital cost. 311 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Is it planned for this year or is this when the plan is finished? 312 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:35,690 That's the first one of the gate once we're through council approval. 313 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:40,830 like assuming it is approved through council, that is our first project to replace that function 314 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:43,150 and service as quickly as we can. 315 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:56,040 So further, you showed a few designs, and I'm wondering if, like, how you will work 316 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,180 Thank you. 317 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,720 with our heritage committee. 318 00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:08,940 And I've seen now the two designs and I think I have a preference 319 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:16,320 on one of them. However, I don't know what the other members of the committee feel about 320 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,200 the design. So how will that proceed? 321 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,580 So specific capital projects. We will come 322 00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:28,320 back to heritage committee similar to bridge replacements and any other major capital works. 323 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,360 This would fall under that same process, so we're not here to talk about the specifics 324 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,760 of the design, although we alluded to it and showed a nice picture about it and what we're 325 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,480 thinking about it, but the specifics of the materiality, the design, the size, we will 326 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,600 come back to this committee with the specifics and receive feedback accordingly and balance 327 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,740 with our own facilities management and our own operations team too. 328 00:30:50,920 --> 00:31:00,820 In years past, it seemed to me that we did have committee reps sitting down with staff 329 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:10,800 in building projects like this, and I wonder if this might be a project that would be worthy 330 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,940 of maybe a member of the committee, and it sounds like there's a working group or 331 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:24,080 of the Victoria Park community group, something like that to talk and have some discussion 332 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,660 on this picnic shelter since it's part and parcel of their neighborhood. 333 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,860 Certainly will include the Victoria Park working group. They are, like you said, part 334 00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:42,240 and parcel of the park itself, the neighborhood. They are part of one of the groups that 335 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400 we will speak to once the design is underway. 336 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:56,810 Thank you. Another item that was brought to my attention and I have wondered 337 00:31:56,810 --> 00:32:04,470 about this as well. For instance you have a road that carries a fair amount of 338 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:13,190 traffic through the park and I wondered like has there been any thought of how 339 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:21,830 one would, instead of maybe having the stop at one point, like a different way of dealing 340 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:28,790 with the traffic and the crossing, and I don't know if that's a concern. 341 00:32:32,260 --> 00:32:32,680 Sure. 342 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:41,620 So, we had a pretty substantial engagement phase last summer that included internal 343 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:42,760 and external engagement. 344 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:49,760 We had a transportation charrette, so staff internally from our transportation department 345 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,700 talked about a lot of these pieces in terms of crossover of active transportation, 346 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,620 parking, the connection along Jubilee. 347 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:10,580 There's even in some of the older documentation that Rich Mills had shared with us, 348 00:33:10,580 --> 00:33:17,620 There was reference to closing Jubilee back in the 70s and the 80s, and it seems to come 349 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:18,480 up every decade. 350 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,760 So there was a lot of conversation about is the park for cars, is it for pedestrians, 351 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:30,940 and back and forth about how we're managing that overlap. 352 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:39,060 I think that we've landed on a point where we're focusing more through this master plan 353 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:45,100 on over the next 10-year period on pedestrian circulation through the park space. 354 00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:50,360 We have a parking strategy that we're looking at and strategic items that we're bringing 355 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:57,220 forward over the next 10-year period that try to get at the crux of some of those conflicts. 356 00:33:58,990 --> 00:34:05,420 But yeah, I think that that's become an ongoing dialogue in our engagement and you'll 357 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:07,500 see it represented in the master plan as well. 358 00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:17,920 Thank you. One last item we've got Nandering Pathways and I do believe in 359 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:30,080 the script I read about perhaps sand and gravel finishes and I think that might 360 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:38,260 be a bit difficult and I wondered whether there might be some consent. I'm 361 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:43,080 I'm just trying to think of the Romantic era or the landscape era, the late Victorian period, 362 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:55,000 and how you blend that, and I will be honest, I abhor Ashfalt, and I don't think it has 363 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:02,700 a place in the park for it, but I wondered whether something like an aggregate or a brushed 364 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,600 aggregate brushstone might work on the paths where you are suggesting the 365 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,700 gravel and the sand and then again I don't know where those paths are but I 366 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:22,180 just put it out there for your consideration if you want to respond. 367 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:29,930 We probably hold off until maybe we do that work but I know any asphalt 368 00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:34,230 installations there they use a different type it's a rougher category 369 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:39,190 of asphalt to maybe allude to that sand and gravel finish. 370 00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:44,510 But beyond that, it's typically a cost decision really. 371 00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:48,930 If we're speaking of concrete to brush concrete 372 00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:51,610 or expose aggregate concrete or something to that effect, 373 00:35:52,290 --> 00:35:55,050 to do it in mass quantity is costly. 374 00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:58,590 So asphalt is the better, is the balance I say, 375 00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:02,030 of both of those where we get the accessibility benefits 376 00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:03,270 of a firm stable surface. 377 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:12,310 and not quite as expensive as concrete so we'll consider that I mean I think it's 378 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:17,170 part of the cost considerations but doing this under budget is also part of it 379 00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:22,330 too and there are modifications we can do to ask well to help the the visual or 380 00:36:22,330 --> 00:36:26,670 to help the what it what it appears like 381 00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:32,530 thank you are there any other 382 00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:34,070 comments. 383 00:36:38,740 --> 00:36:44,140 So staff have you any concluding remarks or do you feel you've 384 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:52,140 exhausted what we need to know? Michelle and Kieran. Karen. Through the chair, Doe, 385 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:55,900 we just wanted to present the information to the committee today and 386 00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:00,520 acknowledge that you know parks and heritage planning will continue to 387 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,800 work together as the broader master plan moves forward but also as some of 388 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,260 those implementation pieces are sort of targeted 389 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:12,820 to start work on and absolutely where 390 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:15,240 a heritage permit is required, 391 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:20,000 we will seek advice from the neighborhood representative 392 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,420 to see whether those permits need to come to committee 393 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,740 or whether they can be processed 394 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,540 at a staff level under delegated approval. 395 00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:32,080 Very good, thank you. 396 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,280 Any further direction? 397 00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:36,020 Great. 398 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,240 All right. 399 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:45,120 We'll now proceed to our Bill 23 Municipal, and thank you again for coming. 400 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:49,580 Bill 23 Municipal Heritage Register Review. 401 00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:58,380 So it looks like we have two properties, 130 Weber Street West and 105117 Onward Avenue. 402 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:04,980 And I assume, Victoria, you're going to be working on this and presenting. 403 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:05,860 All right. 404 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:09,490 Thank you, Madam Chair. 405 00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:18,650 So the first property that we're bringing forward to this evening as part of our municipal heritage register review is 130 Weber Street West. 406 00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:31,550 The property contains a two-story early 20th century brick building constructed in the industrial vernacular style with subtle Art Deco influences. 407 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:36,050 influences. I just wanted to note to the committee that the statement of significance refers 408 00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:46,650 to the building having subtle classical revival influences, but after some reassessment these 409 00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:53,850 appear to be more aligned with the art deco architectural style. So the building is situated 410 00:38:53,850 --> 00:39:01,390 situated on a 0.59 acre parcel of land located on the northeast corner of Bright 411 00:39:01,390 --> 00:39:06,910 Up Street and Weber Street West within the warehouse district cultural heritage 412 00:39:06,910 --> 00:39:11,830 landscape and the principal resource that contributes to the heritage value 413 00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:14,210 of the property is the commercial building. 414 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320 So the property has designed 415 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,800 physical value as it is a representative example of industrial 416 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,940 vernacular architecture with subtle art deco influence. The property has 417 00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:37,460 historical and associative value. So Charles Dorr, founder of 418 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:41,540 Dare Foods, was the original owner of these lands and the property formerly 419 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:47,860 housed the Dare Foods factory before a fire destroyed the building in 1943. 420 00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:56,240 free. Dare Foods has since relocated to its location on Kingsway Drive. So A.B. Kaya of 421 00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:04,520 Kaya Fabrics purchased the property and relocated the company to 130 Weber Street West in 1947. 422 00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:12,980 Kaya Fabrics is a well-known entity in the Canadian textile industry. The company collaborated 423 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:15,620 with a Danish-based designer and artist 424 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:17,560 to produce textile art prints 425 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,120 that helped shape Canadian art textile styles. 426 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,760 And the company also had exclusive rights 427 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,540 to a line of fire-retardant fabrics, 428 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,820 making kaia fabrics a leading supplier 429 00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:32,000 to schools, hospitals, and other institutions 430 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880 throughout the 1960s and 1970s. 431 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,400 The current building at 130 Weaver Street West 432 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,180 was designed by B.A. Jones. 433 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:52,920 Jones worked with W. H. Schmaltz and assisted with the design of the 1922-23 Kitchener City 434 00:40:52,920 --> 00:41:01,540 Hall building. And Jones also designed the 1932 public utilities building and the 1936-37 435 00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:02,800 Church of the Good Shepherd. 436 00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:10,590 And this property also has contextual value as it contributes 437 00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:14,750 to the continuity and character of the Brightup Street and Weber Street West 438 00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:20,770 streetscapes as well as the warehouse district CHL. So that concludes my 439 00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:24,330 presentation on this property. Madam Chair would you like me to just move to 440 00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:29,210 the next one and we can consider them both together or do you want to pause 441 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:34,590 here and have a discussion? Perhaps we can pause and we can take them 442 00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:39,990 together but I'll ask the question. Are there any questions for Victoria on 443 00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:41,070 this property. 444 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:52,320 Well, I have one. It's a bit of nostalgia. Does anyone remember buying 445 00:41:52,320 --> 00:42:02,240 kaya fabrics or having someone make clothing of kaya fabric? I do. 446 00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:07,240 I was really sorry when 447 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:15,200 that fabric company left our city and it was kind of a pleasant surprise to read 448 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,740 this in the in the script and I hadn't realized where this was made. Good. All 449 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:28,340 right. Are there any other comments or questions? All right. We'll proceed then 450 00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:29,840 to the onward property. 451 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,600 All right. Thank you Madam Chair. So the second 452 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,000 property that's being brought forward this evening is the property 453 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,100 municipally addressed as 105 to 117 Onward Avenue. This property contains a 454 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,540 three-story mid-20th century brick apartment building constructed in the 455 00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:58,080 structuralist architectural style. The apartment building is situated on a 456 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,980 1.19 acre parcel of land located at the corner of Onward Avenue and Weber 457 00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:06,460 Street East in the Onward Avenue neighborhood cultural heritage 458 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:10,940 landscape. The principal resource that contributes to the heritage value of the 459 00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:12,500 property is the apartment building. 460 00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:18,720 So the property has designed physical value 461 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,300 as the building is a representative example of the structuralist architectural 462 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:27,660 style. The property has historical associated value given its association 463 00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:32,580 with the original owner and builder Michael Krauss and it also has the 464 00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:36,620 potential to yield information about post-war development within the city 465 00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:41,040 of Kitchener. So Michael Krause was founder of Krause 466 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,220 Carbon Mills and Struidex Fibers and was a prominent member of the new apostolic church. 467 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:51,540 His religious work and his work as a builder were intertwined. He served as the contractor 468 00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:57,300 for the church building at 182 Victoria Street North and helped build the current new apostolic 469 00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:03,080 church at 160 Margaret Avenue. Krause was the founder and president of Stam Investments, 470 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,560 a company owned by the new Apostolic Church of Canada, which was involved in apartment 471 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,880 construction and land development. The company's proceeds were partly dedicated to the church's 472 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,780 missionary work in Asia, Africa, South America, and the Caribbean. The building at 105 to 117 473 00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:24,460 Onward Avenue illustrates the role of apartment buildings in addressing post-war housing needs 474 00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:28,660 in Kitchener. This building is part of a series of several apartment buildings 475 00:44:28,660 --> 00:44:34,380 constructed by different owners on the same or modified plans around 1948. 476 00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:37,920 And 477 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,620 the property has contextual value as the building contributes to the continuity 478 00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:45,340 and character of the Onward Avenue streetscape. The building is in its 479 00:44:45,340 --> 00:44:48,900 original location and maintains its original use as an apartment building. 480 00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:53,020 Prior to World War II, the area around this property represented the limits 481 00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:56,920 of Kitchener's Urban Development and there is a link between this building 482 00:45:05,660 --> 00:45:12,240 So that concludes my presentation on these properties and I'm just going to put the recommendation 483 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,060 up on the slide for the committee. Thank you. 484 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:25,460 Thank you, Victoria. Are there any questions about this? Yes, Councillor Michele. 485 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,900 Thank you. It's nice to see this apartment being put on the list. Was there not another 486 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:36,240 apartment beside that at the same heritage at one point? I'm sure there was 487 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:41,760 two. Through the chair I don't know if there was one like directly beside this 488 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,680 property but on 265 Weber Street East which is very close to this property 489 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,440 there is an H plan apartment building and then the the two properties that 490 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:59,320 I mentioned at Borden Avenue are also sort of H plan blocks as well. Yeah I 491 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,260 I thought there was one up closer towards going towards East Ave, but that's okay. 492 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,080 It's nice to see this. 493 00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:04,480 Thank you. 494 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,720 Thank you, Councillor Michel. 495 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,300 Any other questions for Victoria? 496 00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:21,120 Well seeing none, I'm going to read the motion that pursuant to Section 29 of the Interior 497 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:26,620 Heritage Act, the cultural heritage value or interest be recognized and designation be 498 00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:35,060 pursued for the following properties. 130 Weber Street West 105 117 Onward Avenue. Are 499 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:44,140 there any questions? Who would move this? Magda, thank you. Any further questions? All 500 00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:54,700 right. All those in favor? It's carried. And this will go to Council for approval 501 00:46:54,700 --> 00:47:02,740 June 29, 2026. Now we have the information items our heritage permit 502 00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:09,480 applications tracking sheet. Are there any questions about that one? Seeing none 503 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,320 who would like to adjourn the meeting. 504 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,380 Thank you Councillor Chapman.