[0:17] It's six 11:00 p.m. And I'd
[0:21] like to call this meeting to
[0:21] order.
[0:24] we'll begin with an invocation
[0:25] led by council member parker
[0:26] followed by the pledge
[0:28] of allegiance led by council
[0:29] member fugit.
[0:36] please rise as your able
[0:39] tonight.
[0:40] may we open our ears and eyes,
[0:43] our hearts and our minds so
[0:44] that we may make decisions for
[0:46] the residents of the city
[0:50] of knoxville pledge allegiance
[0:53] ok, thank you very much to our
[0:54] veterans and to honor our folks
[0:57] who've helped run those on our
[0:58] air flights for the last
[0:58] twenty years.
[1:00] to the safe which one nation
[1:01] it's been amazing.
[1:01] next item is our consent
[1:02] agenda.
[1:03] indivisible with liberty and
[1:04] is there a motion on the
[1:08] consent agenda, mayor?
[1:09] I would like to remove one item
[1:12] justice for all mr. Johnson,
[1:12] twelve q item twelve.
[1:13] would you please call wrong
[1:13] councilman adams here
[1:16] q and I'll go ahead and move to
[1:16] approve the consent agenda
[1:16] councilman bart leyburn here
[1:19] asked me if you could hear
[1:20] minus twelve.
[1:20] councilman grant here,
[1:20] councilman housley here,
[1:21] q is there a second to that
[1:24] councilman honeycut your
[1:24] councilman lloyd here,
[1:25] councilman parker here in
[1:26] councilman thomas all members
[1:27] motion anyone second.
[1:27] present.
[1:28] ok so the motion is to approve
[1:30] mayor, thank you.
[1:31] the consent agenda um we're
[1:31] is there a motion on the
[1:32] minutes from the february
[1:36] twenty six workshop voted for a
[1:37] adding twelfth oh I don't
[1:38] second something right well no
[1:38] motion made to approve second
[1:39] seconded any questions or
[1:41] but she made the motion to
[1:42] approve the consent as as
[1:43] discussions?
[1:44] I see a lot of lights on the
[1:45] adjusted that's ok.
[1:45] that for questions or
[1:46] so much has been made and
[1:46] discussion.
[1:47] no, mr. Grant, your light is on
[1:48] now.
[1:48] seconded any questions are
[1:49] discussions going on?
[1:50] ok, all right.
[1:51] thing no questions or
[1:52] all those in favor say any
[1:52] discussion all those in favor
[1:53] oppose the consent agenda
[1:54] please say I any opposed motion
[1:55] carries are there is there a
[1:56] is approved.
[1:56] all right.
[1:58] motion on the minutes of the
[1:59] march 3rd regular meeting
[2:00] we'll move along to the mayor's
[2:01] report first I want to wish
[2:02] motion to approve a motion to
[2:03] approve and seconded any
[2:03] everyone happy st. Patrick's
[2:03] questions are discussion saying
[2:04] day to all who celebrate I sort
[2:05] of feel like with the orange
[2:07] and the green we have an irish
[2:08] flag thing going here in the
[2:11] audience so I hope appreciate
[2:12] all the folks who came out for
[2:15] the various parades and so
[2:24] none of those in favor please
[2:25] say any oppose motion carries
[2:26] on to our agenda for tonight.
[2:27] are there any items to be
[2:28] withdrawn?
[2:29] are there any items to be
[2:29] postponed?
[2:30] are there any items to be added
[2:31] by motion?
[2:32] >> ok and under item five d has
[2:33] been suggested that we do the
[2:34] commemorative resolution for
[2:35] honor er at this item our
[2:36] forth over the weekend.
[2:36] motion to move that item to
[2:37] we we also had a very busy
[2:37] weekend.
[2:38] it was the home opener for one
[2:39] knox soccer.
[2:40] there were thousands of people
[2:40] five I'll make a motion that we
[2:40] here for the bassmaster classic
[2:41] which we had a winner from
[2:42] tennessee very exciting.
[2:42] the ice breakers had a home
[2:43] game.
[2:44] there was a five k there is a
[2:44] move that to item five the
[2:44] jerry seinfeld show is a very,
[2:45] second motion made and seconded
[2:45] very busy weekend and that's a
[2:46] lot of fun for residents and
[2:46] visitors.
[2:47] but it's also a testament to
[2:47] does everyone understand motion
[2:48] our public service crews, our
[2:48] before them.
[2:48] transportation engineers are
[2:49] any questions are discussions
[2:49] police and fire people who pick
[2:50] up the trash who keep
[2:50] everything running smoothly
[2:51] when you have a busy weekend
[2:52] being done all those in favor
[2:53] like that and you don't hear
[2:54] anything bad happening, that
[2:55] please say I any opposed motion
[2:56] means the city employees did
[2:56] carry so let's go ahead and
[2:57] their job.
[2:59] here that resolution please.
[2:59] twelve years resolution
[3:00] so I want to thank all the city
[3:00] expressing gratitude and
[3:01] folks who make those fun
[3:01] activities stay safe and stay
[3:03] appreciation to honor er
[3:04] knoxville for its many years
[3:04] fun.
[3:04] of service to the veteran
[3:05] with that said, we have another
[3:07] big weekend around coming up
[3:08] around the corner big ears
[3:09] festival runs from march
[3:09] community of east tennessee
[3:12] twenty six to twenty ninth.
[3:12] this festival attracts people
[3:13] from all over the world and
[3:14] most emotion to approve motion
[3:14] made and seconded council
[3:15] there's another great
[3:16] opportunity for us to showcase
[3:17] our beautiful city.
[3:17] member honeycut thank you
[3:18] colleagues and fellow community
[3:20] there are lots of ticketed
[3:21] events but there's also lots
[3:21] members.
[3:22] of free events that are open to
[3:22] thank you all for being here
[3:23] tonight.
[3:23] the general public.
[3:24] I invite you all to check it
[3:24] out.
[3:25] tonight we have the privilege
[3:26] of presenting a resolution
[3:28] it's filled with fun and
[3:28] surprises and I always enjoy
[3:29] recognizing honor er knoxville
[3:30] for their extraordinary service
[3:31] to the veterans of east
[3:32] the music that they share.
[3:33] on a sadder note, I want to
[3:34] tennessee since 2007 honor er
[3:35] has flown more than four
[3:35] take a moment to publicly send
[3:36] our condolences to the friends
[3:37] thousand seven hundred local
[3:37] veterans to washington dc
[3:39] and family of wanita usher
[3:39] ca on.
[3:40] giving them the opportunity to
[3:42] visit memorials built in their
[3:42] mccannon died at the age of 86
[3:43] .
[3:44] she was a long time educator in
[3:44] honor of service.
[3:45] these are veterans from our own
[3:46] neighborhoods men and women who
[3:47] knoxville and served 18 years
[3:47] as a d.c. Board member.
[3:49] so please keep her family and
[3:49] served during world war two,
[3:50] friends in your thoughts and
[3:52] the korean war and vietnam.
[3:53] >> for many of them this is the
[3:53] first time standing before
[3:55] prayers.
[3:56] these memorials seeing their
[3:56] I want to remind everybody
[3:56] about our rules of decorum.
[3:58] we are here to do the city's
[3:59] official business those who
[3:59] service remembered reflecting
[4:00] wish to speak either to a
[4:00] on their sacrifice and knowing
[4:01] that their community
[4:02] specific agenda item or during
[4:03] a public forum need to sign up
[4:03] is grateful.
[4:05] >> if we have any veterans with
[4:06] with the city recorder.
[4:07] mr. Johnson before four p.m. Do
[4:07] us tonight I think we'd all on
[4:08] city council like to pause for
[4:10] not use profanity and in
[4:11] speaking to specific agenda
[4:11] a moment to just simply say
[4:12] thank you.
[4:13] thank you for your service.
[4:13] items you must stay on topic
[4:14] remarks must be germane to the
[4:15] question ahead of the assembly
[4:15] thank you for your sacrifice.
[4:16] thank you for the freedoms we
[4:17] that is statements must have
[4:18] bearing on whether the pending
[4:19] enjoy because of you.
[4:20] honor represents the very best
[4:21] motion should be adopted.
[4:22] those who fail to adhere to
[4:23] of east tennessee neighbors
[4:24] stepping up, volunteers giving
[4:25] these rules will be ruled out
[4:25] of order.
[4:26] for those who are listening
[4:27] their time and communities
[4:27] please note if you disrupt a
[4:27] coming together with their 30th
[4:29] public meeting you will be
[4:30] asked to leave or escorted out.
[4:31] and final flight unfortunately
[4:31] thank you in advance for
[4:33] everyone's respect for these
[4:33] rules.
[4:34] scheduled for april 8th.
[4:34] that concludes my mayor's
[4:35] it's especially fitting that
[4:36] report now are there any
[4:37] reports of committees or
[4:38] that we on the city council and
[4:38] the city of knoxville pause
[4:39] tonight as a community to
[4:40] council members serving on
[4:41] recognize this extraordinary
[4:44] committees or boards?
[4:45] >> council member honeycut I'll
[4:45] legacy for me personally and I
[4:46] think for all of us it reminds
[4:47] just report that I attended the
[4:48] recent pension board and
[4:49] us of something important that
[4:49] honoring our veterans is not
[4:51] investment committee meetings.
[4:52] just something that happens in
[4:53] washington, d.c. But something
[4:54] that we do here at home and
[4:55] both were routine in nature.
[4:56] the board approved standard
[4:56] items like new enrollments,
[4:57] it's more important to do here
[4:57] at home.
[4:59] retirements and invoices, all
[5:00] of which passed unanimously.
[5:01] so overall the system remains
[5:01] please join me and city council
[5:02] in thanking honor knoxville for
[5:03] stable and is performing well.
[5:04] nearly two decades of service
[5:04] so thank you.
[5:05] to our east tennessee veterans.
[5:06] >> let's give them a round
[5:07] thank you.
[5:08] any other reports from council
[5:10] members?
[5:11] how about announcements from
[5:14] council members?
[5:15] >> council member atom's thank
[5:15] you.
[5:15] of applause so at this time I
[5:16] know eddie manase who is the
[5:19] agreed the weekend that just
[5:20] passed was fantastic.
[5:20] founder and chair of honor
[5:21] couldn't be here tonight but he
[5:22] then it got cold but the
[5:24] has sent joe sutter and a group
[5:25] of veterans and people from the
[5:26] weekend ahead also looks
[5:27] promising and there were three
[5:27] events that I wanted to just
[5:28] honor team to to be recognized
[5:28] this evening.
[5:30] bring to focus attention.
[5:31] so I'll join you guys as you
[5:31] the first one is evms river
[5:31] rescue.
[5:32] guys to come to the stage for a
[5:34] it's an annual event that works
[5:35] photo op with city council and
[5:35] to clean up our rivers and it's
[5:35] administration.
[5:36] if you'll come up right here on
[5:38] a great thing to volunteer
[5:38] with.
[5:39] you can find more information
[5:40] the on the stage and should we
[5:41] do the vote first just as a
[5:42] about that at at ion's and sign
[5:43] up to volunteer.
[5:43] matter of fact I have a feeling
[5:43] it's going to pass.
[5:44] >> that's on saturday the
[5:44] we should do the vote.
[5:46] oh, and there's a few council
[5:46] twenty first also on saturday
[5:47] members who'd like to come in
[5:48] and speak and then we'll do
[5:48] that.
[5:49] the 21st is equinox that is a
[5:50] special celebration that's
[5:50] we'll invite you up on the
[5:50] happening in the old severe
[5:51] stage to receive your
[5:53] neighborhood in south knoxville
[5:54] proclamation.
[5:54] and it will be a free all day
[5:55] vice mayor, if you get thank
[5:55] you.
[5:56] I would not be a very good
[5:57] event with lots of activities
[5:58] going on including community
[5:58] military wife if I did not ask
[5:59] those veterans in the audience
[6:01] bike ride chi down by the river
[6:02] to please stand so that we can
[6:04] and a fun run and many, many
[6:05] other things including vendor
[6:05] market.
[6:06] so if you're looking for fun
[6:09] stuff to do on saturday, that'd
[6:12] be a great place to go and one
[6:13] other event that I wanted to to
[6:15] thank you and acknowledge and
[6:16] councilman grant, you didn't
[6:16] make note of is on sunday in
[6:17] the south haven neighborhood by
[6:20] stand or you said I know ok
[6:20] the maynard glen baseball field
[6:21] there is a community tree
[6:24] planting and free tree
[6:24] adoption.
[6:25] that tree's knoxville
[6:28] is putting on its on mcclung
[6:29] avenue and the tree planting
[6:29] voice you need to stand ok.
[6:30] thank you.
[6:31] is from two to four and tree
[6:32] adoption which that means you
[6:33] can get a free tree is from
[6:33] council member parker thank you
[6:33] mayor.
[6:35] four to five pm.
[6:37] generally when we bring
[6:38] resolutions like this forward
[6:40] >> thank you vice mayor if you
[6:40] get thank you.
[6:41] it is supported by the full
[6:42] council and I'm sure that the
[6:43] I just want to announce that
[6:44] full council supports this
[6:44] resolution.
[6:45] but just to be clear, I wanted
[6:47] next year that march twenty six
[6:48] that thursday we will be having
[6:48] to make sure and add my name as
[6:49] a co-sponsor.
[6:49] city council will have a
[6:51] thank ok.
[6:52] workshop and get an update on
[6:52] are there any council members
[6:53] who do not want their names to
[6:55] our of our affordable housing
[6:56] be added?
[6:56] or our housing programs and the
[6:57] ok, let's make sure all the
[6:57] names are on there please.
[6:59] for the record the unanimous
[6:59] work that the city is doing
[7:03] support and I'll just say I had
[7:03] with homelessness and so that
[7:04] the honor and privilege to be a
[7:04] is that will be at six pm in
[7:07] this room and we'll also be
[7:07] volunteer on one of the flights
[7:09] a couple of years ago and it
[7:09] was just such a privilege to be
[7:11] live streamed.
[7:11] with those veterans as they
[7:12] >> thank you.
[7:12] visited the memorials in our
[7:12] thank you.
[7:14] nation's capital that are in
[7:15] council member.
[7:15] our honor and some were able
[7:15] thank you.
[7:16] just two quick things.
[7:18] one I would like sort
[7:19] bodied and some were in
[7:19] of piggyback on what a great
[7:19] wheelchairs and and they were
[7:20] weekend we had with the
[7:22] bassmaster classic last
[7:22] weekend.
[7:23] all just so moved by the whole
[7:23] experience.
[7:24] I don't know if anyone out
[7:24] there actually was able to
[7:26] and I know a highlight for many
[7:26] attend but tens of thousands
[7:26] was the letters that they
[7:27] of people came in to knoxville,
[7:28] you know, great for local
[7:30] received and got to read on the
[7:31] businesses, great for our
[7:31] ride home because sometimes our
[7:31] community.
[7:34] veterans are very modest and
[7:34] it was fantastic and a thank
[7:35] humble about their service and
[7:35] you to visit knoxville, qed,
[7:36] all the city staff that made it
[7:38] possible.
[7:38] so to be recognized in that way
[7:39] the logistics behind it
[7:39] was incredibly meaningful also
[7:40] is incredible and for it to go
[7:42] to all the many volunteers over
[7:43] the many 20 some years that
[7:43] off as well as it did for our
[7:43] this has been happening to
[7:44] city to be represented as well
[7:46] as it is is testament to all
[7:46] eddie manna's who has been a
[7:47] of their hard work behind the
[7:47] scenes.
[7:47] so thank you.
[7:47] leader of this group and to the
[7:50] second, a quick announcement
[7:50] the people are going to be
[7:51] receiving this resolution on
[7:52] recess is over.
[7:53] this friday, march 20th at noon
[7:54] behalf of on our the city
[7:54] at camp honey coffee we are
[7:55] of knoxville thanks to the city
[7:56] we're going to resume our
[7:56] meeting if everyone could
[7:57] doing coffee with city council
[7:58] council we're very, very
[7:58] members so as many of us as
[7:59] grateful and we look forward to
[8:02] one last off and welcome home
[8:02] possible not all of us can be
[8:03] on april 8th.
[8:03] there because of schedules will
[8:05] will be there friday just to
[8:06] have an informal meet and greet
[8:06] so any further questions or
[8:07] and conversations with people.
[8:09] so campinas, your lakeshore
[8:09] comments all in favor please
[8:09] park for those that don't know
[8:10] please take their seats.
[8:12] if you can't make it there will
[8:13] be future opportunities.
[8:13] say any opposed by acclamation
[8:14] it passes if we can have the
[8:15] ok, mr johnson, if you could
[8:15] individuals who are
[8:15] proceed with item twelve f
[8:16] so stay tuned for us.
[8:17] but hopefully hopefully some
[8:17] representing on record please
[8:18] people can come out and join us
[8:18] come just to come to the stage
[8:21] if you wanted to say anything
[8:21] just so you're aware we can't
[8:21] before we take pictures would
[8:22] talk about agenda items because
[8:24] of the sunshine law but we
[8:25] welcome a few comments from we
[8:25] can't talk about the city as a
[8:25] whole.
[8:26] we really appreciate all that
[8:26] so please join us and and we
[8:29] you've done well thank you
[8:30] look forward to it.
[8:31] thank you.
[8:33] mayor and city council on
[8:34] behalf of any man as our
[8:36] moving right along.
[8:36] twelve f is the resolution
[8:36] founder and chairman a great
[8:37] >> um, next item please.
[8:37] authorizing the mayor to
[8:37] amount of support made this
[8:37] execute any all documents
[8:38] necessary to award a total
[8:38] amounts not to exceed two
[8:39] eleven dukes resolution of the
[8:39] hundred thirteen thousand four
[8:39] happen from the east tennessee
[8:40] council the city of knoxville
[8:40] hundred ninety nine dollars
[8:40] seventy one cents in
[8:40] community knoxville and many,
[8:41] opportunity youth program
[8:41] grants to thirteen community
[8:42] based organizations to support
[8:42] approving an appeal filed by
[8:42] programing for youth and young
[8:43] david hamilton for the norwood
[8:43] adults in the city.
[8:44] many, many volunteers touched
[8:45] you said over four thousand
[8:45] ok motion made to approve
[8:46] is there and seconded.
[8:46] homeowners group, humberto
[8:47] there are several people who
[8:47] signed up to speak on this
[8:48] rodriguez for h and in clinton
[8:48] item.
[8:48] veterans the volunteers, their
[8:49] we'll start with the three who
[8:49] family members and the
[8:49] signed up to speak in favor
[8:51] highway llc morris shiso for
[8:52] community at large.
[8:52] first as matthew zang matthew
[8:53] if you were ever at a welcome
[8:53] saying if you could come to the
[8:54] home at the national airport,
[8:54] podium, state your name and
[8:54] clinton tennessee llc and jason
[8:55] address for the record and
[8:55] surrell for knoxville
[8:56] it's pretty moving and on
[8:56] behalf of all of us and
[8:57] you'll have up to three minutes
[8:57] to address council.
[8:58] combatives llc thereby
[8:59] overturning the decision of the
[8:59] certainly mannus, thank you so
[9:00] much.
[9:01] hi my name is matthew sing one
[9:01] knoxville knox county planning
[9:01] one eight south central street
[9:02] commission to grant a special
[9:03] use application filed by
[9:03] >> thank you.
[9:04] knoxville, tennessee.
[9:04] >> let's welcome them up on the
[9:05] thank you for having us here
[9:05] today.
[9:06] clearcuts for a social service
[9:07] provider in this s.h. One
[9:07] stage for a quick photo and if
[9:09] mayor council members I am
[9:10] there's any veterans or
[9:10] district four probably located
[9:11] audience that would like to
[9:11] at fifty two hundred clinton
[9:11] matthew thing has already said
[9:12] come up and attend and be and
[9:12] I am the co-founder and
[9:13] be presented as well, please
[9:14] highway 5th district.
[9:15] executive director of two
[9:15] bikes.
[9:16] we are one of the proposed
[9:17] nonprofit recipients for the
[9:17] >> ok, thank you mr. Johnson.
[9:18] I would like the appellant to
[9:21] opportunity youth grant and I'm
[9:21] please approach the podium.
[9:22] here to speak in favor of our
[9:22] thank you.
[9:23] you're already there just
[9:24] organization and specifically
[9:25] our bike school program since
[9:26] before you start I want to just
[9:26] make sure council understands
[9:29] its inception in 2022 the bike
[9:29] what the rules that you have
[9:30] are that I'm going to be
[9:30] enforcing here.
[9:32] the appellant will have up to
[9:32] school has has provided paid
[9:33] internships for over 70 nox
[9:34] 15 minutes to present their
[9:34] case.
[9:35] join us.
[9:35] they can use as many or as few
[9:35] wow.
[9:36] area teenagers for a total
[9:37] of 6200 hours of workforce
[9:37] training.
[9:38] speakers as they wish.
[9:39] I would ask that each time
[9:39] there's someone taller than
[9:40] there's a change in speaker
[9:41] we help young people build job
[9:41] skills, independence and
[9:42] they say their name and address
[9:45] relationships that lost last
[9:45] long after they leave the
[9:46] for the record once that
[9:47] fifteen minutes is up I will
[9:48] program are dedicated to
[9:48] instructors.
[9:49] instructors teach our interns
[9:52] how to work on bikes of course
[9:53] call upon the apelt e and they
[9:53] , but it goes deeper than that
[9:54] will have up to fifteen minutes
[9:56] at two bikes.
[9:57] we've always believed that
[9:57] to state their case with as
[9:58] bicycles are more than just a
[9:58] many as few speakers as they
[9:59] means of exercise or
[10:00] transportation.
[10:03] they're a tool for exploration
[10:04] wish and then the ones that
[10:04] , for change and for community.
[10:05] fifteen minutes has finished
[10:08] they have the power to open up
[10:09] the original party will have up
[10:09] the world and our bike school
[10:09] to two minutes for rebuttal
[10:09] denzel and
[10:12] program reflects that belief
[10:12] then at the conclusion of the
[10:12] when we teach a kid how to
[10:13] steps council will deliberate
[10:15] and make a decision.
[10:16] change a flat tire or just a
[10:16] brake or give them the
[10:17] confidence to speak to
[10:19] ok any questions seeing none
[10:20] will have the appellant go
[10:21] ahead and start.
[10:21] customers or uplifting them in
[10:22] ways that echo beyond our shop
[10:23] if you could start by saying
[10:24] doors one of the truest
[10:24] your name and address for the
[10:24] unexpected lessons of working
[10:25] record and mr. Johnson is going
[10:27] to run the fifteen minute clock
[10:27] with your hands is realizing
[10:27] .
[10:28] thank you.
[10:28] that you are more capable
[10:28] my name is david hamilton.
[10:29] of taking care of yourself than
[10:31] I'm an attorney.
[10:32] you think you are and that you
[10:32] I'm at eighteen ten merchant
[10:32] have the skill set to tackle
[10:35] drive knoxville, tennessee
[10:35] whatever problems arise.
[10:36] within about approximately a
[10:36] our students come from
[10:37] different corners of the city,
[10:39] different schools, different
[10:39] half mile of this facility that
[10:40] walks of life and they each
[10:41] bring different perspectives to
[10:43] the program.
[10:44] is seeking change that we are
[10:44] appealing.
[10:44] they learn from us but they
[10:47] also learn from each other to
[10:47] I've been directed to do the
[10:48] that knoxville is a city
[10:50] of diverse voices and we work
[10:50] presentation and I wanted to
[10:51] hard to foster that
[10:51] collaboration and a sense
[10:54] of stewardship in our students
[10:54] say thank you before I begin to
[10:55] and we are constantly pushing
[10:58] mr. Swanson, mr. Swanson sent
[10:58] them to engage in participate
[10:59] me an email this morning
[10:59] in our community during the
[11:01] course of the program students
[11:02] refurbished bicycles which are
[11:02] addressing an issue and his his
[11:05] then donated to folks in need
[11:05] action helped to avoid
[11:09] some of them in this room and
[11:10] demonstrating that even the
[11:10] unnecessary friction and he
[11:13] smallest act can have a
[11:14] deserved the commendation and I
[11:14] profound impact on the lives
[11:16] of our neighbors.
[11:17] so again, I thank you for
[11:18] having me here.
[11:19] I'm very proud of the work
[11:20] we've done it who bikes?
[11:21] don't give those away for this
[11:21] >> I'm grateful for the city's
[11:24] support in the past and I'm
[11:25] appreciative of the
[11:25] is a difficult application
[11:28] consideration for this grant
[11:29] of both law and virtue I think
[11:29] and regardless of the decision
[11:29] is an example of the corruption
[11:30] tonight I'd like to extend an
[11:31] invitation to each and one
[11:32] of you to come down to our
[11:32] of virtue.
[11:33] shop, visit our students and
[11:36] see the hard work that we've
[11:36] done.
[11:36] and let me go through why this
[11:36] thank you.
[11:37] body should reverse the
[11:39] thank you.
[11:41] next person signed up to speak
[11:42] in favor of item twelve
[11:42] planning commission knoxville
[11:43] ordinance.
[11:46] >> it was hard fought and
[11:47] is khaleel white khaleel white
[11:48] come to the podium please state
[11:49] your name and address for the
[11:51] recently installed to replace
[11:52] record and you'll have up to
[11:52] three minutes to address
[11:55] mark let's say less flexible
[11:55] council.
[11:58] zoning opportunity for the city
[11:58] to grow.
[11:58] hi my name is khelil white or
[11:59] three forty east magnolia
[12:01] but it didn't stop the
[12:03] avenue and I oh speaking on
[12:04] behalf of the bottom we are
[12:06] responsibility of this body or
[12:07] black from a bookstore and
[12:07] the planning commission from
[12:07] community art space both in
[12:09] considering the different
[12:10] aspects of that hard fought
[12:11] east knoxville and we are one
[12:11] of the nonprofits that applied
[12:14] for the opportunity use grant
[12:15] for our solar cell a program
[12:16] that has been a program that we
[12:18] ordinance as of as of the
[12:19] have been running for the past
[12:21] beginning issue under article
[12:22] seven years now providing youth
[12:22] sixteen one b page three
[12:23] in our community what
[12:23] opportunities to take their
[12:25] creative avenues into
[12:26] seventy to the ordinance which
[12:26] businesses so we provide them
[12:29] is different from the pdf
[12:30] version if you're using the pdf
[12:30] with resources, sewing machines
[12:31] , sewing kit and opportunity to
[12:34] paging system because the pages
[12:34] connect with creatives business
[12:35] leaders to understand how they
[12:36] can be the next business
[12:36] are individually numbered.
[12:37] leaders in that community with
[12:38] >> clearcuts is not an owner
[12:38] this program we've been we've
[12:42] seen over 50 students have come
[12:43] through this space that have
[12:46] taken their their dreams and
[12:47] their ideas and turn them into
[12:49] products off the sewing
[12:50] machines and it's something
[12:51] that we want to continue to do
[12:51] in our space.
[12:52] >> thank you.
[12:56] thank you.
[12:57] >> the third person signed up
[12:58] of the property.
[12:58] to speak in favor of item
[12:59] they did not provide a lease.
[13:00] they were not properly a bore
[13:00] twelve is carry canon carry
[13:01] before the planning commission
[13:02] to seek either special use or
[13:03] any zoning mandatory
[13:05] consideration of the commercial
[13:06] site design is set out in
[13:07] article five one a three page
[13:08] canon when you get to the
[13:08] fifty six and that the site
[13:09] podium if you could please
[13:11] must be design I'm quoting now
[13:11] state your name and address was
[13:12] sites must be designed to
[13:12] the record and you'll have up
[13:13] to three minutes to address
[13:15] ensure safe pedestrian access
[13:15] council friends.
[13:16] in the public right away and
[13:16] my name is kerry canon smitti
[13:19] safe pedestrian circulation
[13:20] 24/7 western avenue knoxville.
[13:20] within the development
[13:22] I'm with the community action
[13:23] of article five table five dash
[13:23] committee and we are at western
[13:24] heights.
[13:25] um I'd like to briefly
[13:26] to page sixty two this project
[13:27] fails.
[13:27] highlight the impact of the
[13:27] opportunity youth engagement
[13:28] grant and we're continuing
[13:31] there are no sidewalk, there
[13:31] funding for programs like this
[13:31] are no crosswalks.
[13:31] pathways grant is so important
[13:35] for young people in our inner
[13:35] city communities through this
[13:38] grant the ac last year provided
[13:38] this is a arterial commercial
[13:39] road clinton highway.
[13:41] two cohorts of fifteen hours
[13:42] of career readiness and
[13:42] most of you are familiar with
[13:43] workforce development
[13:44] programing to the youth in the
[13:46] western heights neighborhood
[13:47] this and for this facility
[13:47] over the course of several
[13:49] sessions twenty students
[13:50] which is pedestrian centric at
[13:50] completed that program and
[13:51] graduated with new skills
[13:51] a highway auto centric location
[13:54] confidence and a clear vision
[13:54] inappropriate sufficient on
[13:54] for their future.
[13:55] participants were introduced to
[13:58] college and trade schools
[13:58] workforce opportunities through
[13:59] site parking had to be
[14:01] partnerships with organizations
[14:02] here in knoxville and local
[14:03] established this is required
[14:03] employers and they learned how
[14:03] under various applications
[14:07] to build resumes or practice
[14:07] interviews, develop
[14:07] professional skills that
[14:07] of article eleven one a one and
[14:10] prepare them for real job
[14:10] opportunities.
[14:11] the funding also helped remove
[14:11] also eleven for one table
[14:11] eleven does too.
[14:14] barriers by providing meals
[14:14] during sessions, professional
[14:15] I that's kind of technical but
[14:17] interview attire, mentorship
[14:18] completion stipend.
[14:18] it drives home the point this
[14:19] those supports ensure that
[14:19] site fails.
[14:21] students from underserved
[14:22] neighborhoods can participate
[14:23] it only has six parking slots
[14:23] fully and feel confident
[14:23] now they're going to respond
[14:26] pursuing education and
[14:26] that they have this extra lease
[14:26] employment for programing for
[14:29] twenty twenty six we're going
[14:30] area except the law requires
[14:30] to build on what we've already
[14:31] done for the twenty twenty four
[14:32] hour programing and we're going
[14:34] to with the introduction
[14:34] that the the appellant or the
[14:36] of trades and colleges in
[14:37] twenty twenty six will further
[14:38] the agenda on trade specifics
[14:38] petitioner provide a copy
[14:39] of the lease so that it would
[14:41] like what can one do with an
[14:42] electrician lessons.
[14:43] what can you do with a welding
[14:43] be reviewed by the city law
[14:44] certificate.
[14:45] what can you do with a
[14:46] department and approved that
[14:47] is article eleven point eight
[14:48] cosmetology license and so we
[14:49] will we want to career to
[14:51] at page twenty five and was not
[14:52] create career sustainability
[14:53] and to bring entrepreneurs and
[14:54] complied with.
[14:54] businesses back to knoxville
[14:57] especially in the urban areas
[14:58] by helping children become
[14:58] so this this entity is left and
[15:01] passionate about their work
[15:01] the underlying entity is left
[15:02] because we know when there's
[15:02] with an application of six
[15:02] passion in your work or you
[15:05] don't really go to work every
[15:05] day.
[15:05] parking slots available and
[15:06] I'm very passionate about my
[15:07] work and I love going to work
[15:08] every single day.
[15:09] ignored the requirement for
[15:10] having city law department
[15:12] um, we want these kids to come
[15:13] back and work in the areas two
[15:16] to to create sustainability and
[15:16] review the lease and approve it
[15:16] .
[15:17] longevity in the workforce.
[15:19] most importantly this program
[15:20] the spot zoning is an illegal
[15:20] helps young people see what
[15:21] is possible for their future
[15:24] whether that's college or a
[15:24] skilled trade entrepreneurship
[15:25] or entering the workforce.
[15:27] use of zoning to the owner's
[15:28] and this next cohort will teach
[15:29] them how to make their ideas a
[15:30] benefit but it's very antifa
[15:31] of planned zoning.
[15:32] reality continued investment in
[15:32] an excuse me continued
[15:35] this is an exception to create
[15:35] investment in programs like the
[15:36] pathways program helps us build
[15:37] a stronger workforce and safer
[15:39] a pedestrian centric location
[15:40] communities and broader future
[15:40] for knoxville's youth.
[15:43] thank you for your support.
[15:43] thank you.
[15:43] in an auto centric area because
[15:46] there's one person signed up to
[15:47] it's virtuous carrycot.
[15:47] speak in opposition to item
[15:48] I've met with some of those
[15:51] twelve of matthew robinson.
[15:51] individuals.
[15:52] mr. Robinson, if you could come
[15:52] I have certain questions about
[15:55] to the podium state your name
[15:55] some of it I would say that
[15:55] and address for the record and
[15:56] you'll have up to three minutes
[15:58] to address council.
[15:58] they are very honest in their
[15:59] >> hello my name is matthew
[15:59] robinson.
[15:59] concern for the the persons
[16:03] that they want to provide this
[16:03] I am executive director knox.
[16:03] service to.
[16:06] my address is forty eight
[16:07] however that virtuous approach
[16:07] twenty fountain view wait three
[16:08] seven nine one eight and to
[16:10] start I really didn't know I
[16:11] is not address the safety
[16:11] signed up to speak in
[16:14] opposition so apologies but I
[16:14] concerns of pedestrians
[16:15] would like to start off by
[16:15] is going across the street
[16:18] saying I don't have any
[16:18] where there are no sidewalks,
[16:19] objections to these
[16:19] organizations getting this
[16:21] no sod, no other protective
[16:21] grant.
[16:23] I just want to know if there's
[16:23] a system that can be
[16:25] implemented to better notify
[16:25] services that are available to
[16:26] nonprofits that have already
[16:27] contributed and are currently
[16:29] pedestrians.
[16:29] contributing to violence
[16:30] interruption and they have
[16:30] >> I was driving on merchants
[16:31] proven track records and
[16:33] success in this line of work.
[16:34] drive a week ago and had a
[16:34] I understand that these things
[16:35] gentleman step out in front
[16:37] are posted on the city's
[16:38] website but there's also no
[16:38] of me at the end of the
[16:39] sidewalk because the right hand
[16:41] indication to my knowledge when
[16:42] that is until it happens.
[16:42] side merchants drive does not
[16:44] I also know that not too long
[16:45] ago there was tensions between
[16:46] going north does not is not a
[16:46] continuous sidewalk.
[16:48] or previous executive director
[16:49] you never looked left.
[16:50] you never looked right.
[16:51] you just stepped right in front
[16:52] and although we we appreciate
[16:52] of my car.
[16:53] his efforts and contributions
[16:54] I had to stop and wait for the
[16:56] to turn up knocks, we are under
[16:57] new management so he no longer
[16:57] traffic go around him and me
[16:57] has any involvement with our
[16:57] endeavors.
[16:58] before I could proceed around
[17:00] we also know that there are
[17:01] certain nonprofit that gets a
[17:01] him just a few feet
[17:03] heads up when the grant process
[17:05] opens and we just wanted to
[17:05] of difference and I would have
[17:05] hit this guy.
[17:06] this is what we're talking
[17:07] know we just wanted to know if
[17:08] the organizations that are
[17:09] about.
[17:11] still active and we are known
[17:11] in this kind of work in
[17:12] particular could be included
[17:12] the staff report relied upon
[17:15] when that happens.
[17:15] thank you.
[17:16] imu see redevelopment of vacant
[17:18] thank you council members that
[17:19] concludes people who have
[17:19] or largely vacant shopping
[17:20] centers within two hundred feet
[17:21] signed up to speak to this
[17:22] council member.
[17:23] adams, thank you.
[17:24] of this building as a brand new
[17:25] firestone that was constructed
[17:26] I want to say a special thanks
[17:27] to the folks who came to speak.
[17:28] for obviously several million
[17:30] um, I've had direct experience
[17:30] dollars.
[17:33] with the two bikes program um
[17:34] several use that I know have
[17:37] gone through that and it truly
[17:38] is a changing changing force to
[17:38] this is not a dying shopping
[17:41] provide that kind of confidence
[17:41] center and mr. Morrison in his
[17:43] in all the ways that perfusing
[17:45] spoke to I see the
[17:46] transformation that happens
[17:46] appeal laid out that he did not
[17:48] there and it's a group that I
[17:49] think that does excellent work
[17:50] appreciate that his clinton
[17:53] with that support money I also
[17:54] want to say thank you to the
[17:54] plaza was designated as a
[17:54] bottom.
[17:55] you've got the best newsletter
[17:56] out there.
[17:57] vacant are largely vacant
[17:57] you you do really amazing
[17:58] shopping center.
[18:01] things with the bookshop and
[18:02] I'm I'm really excited about
[18:02] it's vibrant, it's healthy but
[18:05] it does have problems
[18:05] what you can do with these
[18:05] funds.
[18:06] created in part by the
[18:08] um, there's so many good
[18:09] organizations here.
[18:09] individual who are willing to
[18:12] um, I get to enjoy the drums up
[18:13] go into the food city and steal
[18:13] guns down most recently at the
[18:13] to such an extent.
[18:16] they have an officer there
[18:17] ymca ywca race against racism,
[18:18] you know, bringing all these
[18:21] people who just run a race back
[18:22] to their feet and really
[18:24] bringing community together.
[18:25] every evening under the code,
[18:25] there's so many good things
[18:26] the special the evidence
[18:28] here and I want to say thank
[18:29] you to all the organizations
[18:29] presented they were supposed to
[18:31] doing this work to try to help
[18:32] youth and show youth different
[18:33] evaluate actual evidence.
[18:34] none of that is attached to any
[18:36] of this application.
[18:36] ways and would like to make a
[18:39] there is no development consett
[18:40] operation and this is the
[18:44] virtual signaling that I'm
[18:48] talking about the application
[18:52] for a special service center.
[18:56] >> the application for the
[18:56] special service center
[18:57] is telling us that it's
[18:57] motion to approve second, ok,
[18:58] we did have that already and
[18:59] now we have it again.
[19:00] thank you council member
[19:00] thomas.
[19:00] supposed to be consistent with
[19:01] >> yes.
[19:01] adopted plans.
[19:02] I want you to give a shout out
[19:03] to my friends at two bikes as
[19:03] well.
[19:04] I'm a frequenter of office down
[19:04] in the old city.
[19:05] it's been a place or any time
[19:06] I'm downtown and my tires need
[19:07] well, not inure to any ah
[19:07] everything up a little bit
[19:08] there they will do it just
[19:08] distract from the environment
[19:08] right to the tee and also they
[19:09] even given me a good venue for
[19:10] spare parts like occasionally I
[19:11] run in tyvi circles that aren't
[19:11] used.
[19:12] congestion weather impacts.
[19:13] I had about four at one time I
[19:13] all of this is set out in
[19:15] article sixteen dash to dash f
[19:17] donated two of them to the two
[19:19] dash to f page 370 six and more
[19:21] bikes for parks and they do a
[19:22] really good service and one
[19:23] important underline how this
[19:24] thing I've tried to think once
[19:25] is maybe the best invention
[19:29] of humankind and it would hard
[19:30] to it'd be hard to think that a
[19:31] is the the corruption of virtue
[19:33] basic goal is not it would
[19:34] definitely be in the running
[19:35] is that there were application
[19:36] ins for permits that have been
[19:37] you think about a bicycle, it's
[19:37] all good.
[19:39] reviewed and approved already
[19:40] you know, low cost
[19:43] in violation of section sixteen
[19:44] transportation exercise claim
[19:45] for the environment and two
[19:48] twelve b six there was and
[19:49] bikes is doing all that stuff
[19:49] and they're training people to
[19:50] work on their bikes.
[19:50] of the activa appeal there were
[19:51] no permits that are authorized
[19:52] they're giving low cost bikes
[19:53] to people.
[19:54] so I just wanted to give them a
[19:55] to be reached be issued out and
[19:56] shout out and let them know
[19:57] that they were really
[19:57] appreciated.
[19:58] the city has done it.
[19:59] ceo was issued on 30th
[20:00] thank you.
[20:00] thank you.
[20:02] of january.
[20:02] council member grant.
[20:03] that's a certificate
[20:06] of occupancy is not allowed
[20:07] thank you, mayor.
[20:10] under the provisions of this
[20:10] I think I will be myself if I
[20:11] didn't speak to some things
[20:12] that I feel like a few of us up
[20:14] code in chapter sixteen there
[20:14] here thinking I want to start
[20:15] is no doubt that they might be
[20:16] doing right but there's also no
[20:18] by saying last thursday I had
[20:18] doubt that every single part
[20:21] an opportunity to meet with
[20:22] crosslin who is the audit
[20:22] of the ordinance designed to
[20:23] protect the public in the
[20:23] pedestrian traffic of that
[20:25] committee that the city has
[20:26] facility are ignored for
[20:29] entrusted to to do the city's
[20:29] audit.
[20:30] virtuous reasons.
[20:30] our first audit committee
[20:33] meeting was february 18th and
[20:34] this body needs to revoke and
[20:37] there were some findings
[20:37] obviously some findings and
[20:38] return it back to the planning
[20:38] commission.
[20:40] some things that we need to fix
[20:41] .
[20:42] but after having that
[20:42] they were humbled and desire to
[20:45] conversation with mr. Hunter
[20:46] do good but in the doing
[20:47] of good you can destroy the law
[20:49] last thursday, I have to be
[20:50] and the law was developed to
[20:51] protect the people that are
[20:52] honest the fact that we're
[20:53] sitting here today and we are
[20:54] actually supposed to be served.
[20:55] trying to prove another round
[20:55] when asked what are these
[20:59] people going to do when the
[20:59] building closes?
[21:00] of grants after auditor said
[21:02] well they go back to wherever
[21:03] that you know and I'm quoting
[21:03] they are at.
[21:04] in other words they filter
[21:04] right that money awarded to
[21:06] through my residential
[21:07] organizations did not meet one
[21:08] or more established eligibility
[21:10] community to wherever they
[21:11] requirements due to
[21:11] insufficient verification and
[21:14] might have been drawn from and
[21:14] according to their own analysis
[21:15] documentation review procedures
[21:15] .
[21:16] they were also quoted saying
[21:18] they're looking at eighty
[21:18] that there was a gatekeeper
[21:18] people on sundays.
[21:19] right.
[21:19] with both our grant and
[21:22] procurement process.
[21:23] and we do not know what the
[21:25] traffic is going to be but the
[21:26] >> I don't have much time only
[21:26] point being that all of it
[21:27] have about three minutes.
[21:28] >> but I want to encourage the
[21:29] is auto centric.
[21:30] gary is going to be pedestrian
[21:30] public to go to knoxville
[21:31] community meetings, youtube and
[21:34] centric with no transport.
[21:34] watch the section of the
[21:35] february 17th meeting.
[21:35] I would like to reserve the
[21:37] remainder of my time to be able
[21:39] thirty seven minutes and thirty
[21:39] eight seconds to fifty seven
[21:40] minutes and two seconds and
[21:41] to respond to anything from
[21:41] it's about fifteen minute
[21:42] window but it tells you
[21:42] that might be raised that I'm
[21:45] everything you need to know
[21:46] about the base of my argument
[21:46] mr. Hamilton, you can use the
[21:47] rest of your time now but at
[21:48] the rebuttal it'll just be two
[21:49] minutes.
[21:49] here tonight during that
[21:50] meeting with councilwoman adams
[21:53] and amelia parker they raise
[21:54] very serious and valid concerns
[21:56] thank you.
[21:56] about the grant process.
[21:57] this body has a responsibility
[22:00] it was also stated by miss
[22:01] buuck and also interpreted that
[22:04] to uphold the law it enacted.
[22:04] we wouldn't see grant in front
[22:08] >> you start making excel to
[22:08] of us until november I believe
[22:12] karen adams you know you raised
[22:12] the degree that I've laid out
[22:13] you mentioned making sure that
[22:13] we can support these
[22:15] then your ordinance has no real
[22:16] value as long as we have a
[22:16] organizations now due to the
[22:17] time constraint and it was I
[22:19] virtuous reason this body
[22:20] was under the impression that
[22:21] we were having to november to
[22:23] fix our grant process when we
[22:24] is not going to be picking up
[22:24] the people that might be hit on
[22:27] that road in the middle of the
[22:27] actually look at the
[22:28] applications before us today
[22:28] night because they're hanging
[22:30] they're dated for november in
[22:32] out around a place where they
[22:34] december of last year.
[22:35] >> when we go back to that
[22:35] can't there is no sidewalks.
[22:36] they're going to be on the
[22:38] february 17th meeting aks
[22:39] ourselves, why wasn't it
[22:39] street there are no crosswalks.
[22:40] >> this city's not paying for a
[22:43] mentioned that in thirty more
[22:43] new crosswalk at that location.
[22:43] days we would have another
[22:45] round of grant grant in front
[22:46] >> where's the where's the
[22:47] petition for one hundred
[22:48] thousand dollars and that's a
[22:49] of us by why wasn't that
[22:51] low estimate for the cost of an
[22:52] mentioned during that time?
[22:53] >> nobody up here mentioned it
[22:54] right.
[22:54] active sidewalk.
[22:55] the busses don't help either.
[22:56] I know a lot of us we didn't
[22:57] know that would have been the
[22:58] why they're more than a block
[23:01] perfect time to say hey by the
[23:02] way, we are going to have
[23:02] another round of grants in
[23:04] front of you guys in thirty
[23:08] days that wasn't mentioned.
[23:09] >> we can't ask questions about
[23:12] things if we don't know they're
[23:12] coming.
[23:13] we can ask questions about
[23:16] things because we don't get
[23:17] these things into the wednesday
[23:19] before.
[23:19] away from this building there
[23:19] right.
[23:20] are two bus stops.
[23:21] we're not included in the grant
[23:21] the sidewalks go up to merchant
[23:21] drive.
[23:22] they do not go towards the
[23:23] intersection which is present
[23:24] process until after the fact
[23:24] and oftentimes it feels like
[23:25] when asked who did they talk
[23:26] to, kirkup said they spoke with
[23:27] mr. Mundy and he objected.
[23:28] these things were bundled up
[23:28] because two bikes amazing.
[23:28] morris, who is an appellant in
[23:29] this project or in this matter
[23:31] but I'm amazed and I can agree
[23:32] with all all the organizations
[23:33] was not discussed with the
[23:35] but not every organization.
[23:36] all here is great and I have
[23:36] checkmark on the form that they
[23:37] intended to talk to people was
[23:39] personal experience.
[23:39] the community has experience
[23:40] fulfilled by simply speaking to
[23:40] and often times there's these
[23:42] these silent private
[23:43] conversations that we want to
[23:44] one property owner next door.
[23:45] we're talking about the I
[23:46] have behind the scenes.
[23:47] >> but when we get on front
[23:48] street we don't want to have
[23:48] believe system that they could
[23:51] right in order for things to
[23:51] change the same conversations
[23:52] ignore communication with the
[23:53] neighborhood they wanted to
[23:54] and more conversations that
[23:55] we're having, we need to be
[23:56] communicate after they had
[23:57] able to have them in front
[23:58] of the community and that's
[23:59] going to that's going to create
[24:00] already had this heard.
[24:01] some type of uncomfort at
[24:01] times.
[24:02] but we have to understand that
[24:03] this is a kind of conduct that
[24:03] we have to have these
[24:05] conversations if you're
[24:07] none of you should support.
[24:08] this is the kind of conduct
[24:09] thinking about the long term
[24:10] impact and engaging with the
[24:11] that causes neighborhoods to
[24:12] believe that there are winners
[24:13] youth and engaging with high
[24:13] risk youth.
[24:14] right.
[24:16] and losers and they are the
[24:18] we have to do this the right
[24:18] way.
[24:19] losers.
[24:19] we've been here the last
[24:21] council has been and instead
[24:23] it is this body's obligation,
[24:25] of sitting everybody down not
[24:25] attending the different
[24:26] this body's obligation to
[24:29] organizations against each
[24:30] other and creating a real
[24:30] refuse to allow for all
[24:31] process that includes all the
[24:33] great organization that are out
[24:34] of these misconduct events.
[24:34] here doing the work, we
[24:35] there is no way there's
[24:36] continue to pick and choose.
[24:37] we continue to isolate the
[24:38] certificate of occupancy can be
[24:39] issued without somebody in the
[24:40] different organizations and not
[24:41] include them in the process.
[24:42] whole system knowing and I'm
[24:43] not even talking about the
[24:44] I was given the grant committee
[24:45] which I definitely appreciate
[24:46] effort to return the fees that
[24:47] were paid.
[24:48] receiving that today in just
[24:49] four members who make the
[24:49] it was always signed off by
[24:50] several different individuals
[24:51] decision.
[24:52] ginny patterson who's with
[24:55] knoxville utility board former
[24:56] director of the education and
[24:56] youth services with the
[24:57] in a proper sequence that is so
[24:59] national urban league michael
[25:00] johnson who's with you
[25:01] disrespectful of the ability
[25:03] foundation ramia miller
[25:04] university of tennessee student
[25:05] for us to go to to this body
[25:07] and samantha riddick who is the
[25:08] executive assistant for the
[25:08] office community and.
[25:09] and yet it was done.
[25:11] these are the four individuals
[25:12] who sit on the grant committee
[25:12] thank you.
[25:13] thank you.
[25:14] now I'd like to invite
[25:14] for grant.
[25:15] I'm going to move on to one
[25:16] of your colleagues and you can
[25:17] representative from the
[25:18] appellee to please approach the
[25:19] return to your comments after I
[25:21] podium and as you come to the
[25:22] podium and start speaking,
[25:22] think your time is up.
[25:23] >> I think council vice mayor
[25:25] please state your name and
[25:25] address for the record.
[25:26] if you get my next thank you.
[25:27] and just to respond to what
[25:27] just wait till we get the clock
[25:30] councilman grant said, yes,
[25:33] there were findings and yes,
[25:34] there are things that have to
[25:37] be dealt with and I appreciate
[25:38] the fact that you are speaking
[25:39] restarted.
[25:40] there we go.
[25:40] ok, please proceed.
[25:41] to to that tonight.
[25:43] I will say that tonight and you
[25:44] thanks mary catherine wormsley
[25:44] did not say you don't want to
[25:44] one twenty eight north north
[25:45] shore drive knoxville,
[25:46] approve these but I will say
[25:46] tennessee.
[25:47] I'm a current advisory board
[25:49] that tonight all these people
[25:50] member of haircut's in the
[25:50] have been in the grant process
[25:51] previous board president and I
[25:54] before the findings came out
[25:54] also serve as a ceo and broker
[25:55] of the company who owns fifty
[25:55] two hundred clinton highway.
[25:56] and before the audit committee
[25:57] heard them and there is a
[25:58] I'm here respectfully
[25:59] requesting counsel deny the
[26:00] process in place to address
[26:02] appeal to overturn a unanimous
[26:03] decision made by knoxville knox
[26:04] those issues and the audit
[26:05] committee will audit the new
[26:05] county planning to grain
[26:06] especially use application for
[26:09] processes as we go forward the
[26:09] haircut's to operate as a
[26:10] social service provider on
[26:10] klint highway.
[26:11] next round.
[26:12] but I do plan to support the
[26:13] thank you mayor and city
[26:14] council members for allowing me
[26:16] ones tonight because those
[26:17] folks were following the
[26:18] to speak and thank you to the
[26:18] attendees who are here in
[26:19] respect to this agenda item.
[26:20] process whether we agree with
[26:21] the process or not, these
[26:22] I want to address the comments
[26:23] by our opposition that this
[26:24] nonprofits are following the
[26:25] process that the city had in
[26:25] location is not suitable for
[26:26] this use based on concerns for
[26:28] place and I appreciate the
[26:29] vehicular and pedestrian
[26:29] safety.
[26:30] this location is approximately
[26:32] concern about making more
[26:32] effort for everybody to know
[26:34] one hundred steps from a bus
[26:35] about them.
[26:36] I also run a nonprofit, you
[26:37] stop on top of its proximity to
[26:38] public transportation.
[26:40] know, unless we check a lot
[26:41] we serve a transient population
[26:41] of places we don't know what
[26:42] who know how to navigate the
[26:44] grants are being offered.
[26:44] situation.
[26:45] >> our intention is to serve
[26:46] those who are already in this
[26:47] so I understand that concern
[26:49] area the people who regularly
[26:51] but I just was going to say
[26:52] that I intend to support these
[26:52] walk up and down these streets
[26:53] through and around this
[26:54] because these are worthwhile
[26:56] property and who are receiving
[26:57] limited to no help from this
[26:58] organizations as are others who
[26:59] did not get grants or did not
[26:59] apply.
[27:00] community.
[27:01] I also want to briefly speak on
[27:03] but I don't want us to somehow
[27:04] how capex will operate out this
[27:04] building.
[27:05] I hear continuous concerns and
[27:07] not feel comfortable doing
[27:09] statements that this will be a
[27:10] homeless shelter or will turn
[27:11] these findings.
[27:12] is that somebody some of it
[27:12] into a homeless camp.
[27:13] this is not a correct
[27:15] is a paperwork tom thing and it
[27:15] should not happen.
[27:16] description of this faith based
[27:16] nonprofit.
[27:18] this is a day center that
[27:18] it should not happen.
[27:19] but I don't want to punish
[27:20] provides resources to help
[27:21] clients move forward from their
[27:22] these people tonight for doing
[27:23] current situation.
[27:23] the process that the city laid
[27:24] this facility will receive
[27:24] out before it and it went
[27:27] through the current grant
[27:27] clients during the day on
[27:27] process.
[27:28] tuesdays, fridays and sundays
[27:28] we may or may not like the
[27:31] people that sit on the grant
[27:31] and as staff primarily by
[27:31] review committee but city
[27:32] volunteers between four and
[27:33] eight people in two full time
[27:35] council has never had a part in
[27:36] staff members we estimate a
[27:36] maximum amount of twenty eight
[27:38] being on knowing who the
[27:38] evaluators were.
[27:40] people inside the building at
[27:40] any given time.
[27:42] that's up for discussion as
[27:43] well, mr. Grant, if you want to
[27:43] have that.
[27:44] no individuals will stay the
[27:45] night in the past ten years
[27:46] but tonight I just plan to go
[27:47] ahead and support these as per
[27:49] kiritsis evolved and we will
[27:49] continue to evolve.
[27:50] the just as a point
[27:50] of information.
[27:52] we are moving from william
[27:53] street located in the mission
[27:53] we are not waiting that future
[27:54] grant cycles to take corrective
[27:55] action.
[27:55] district to clinton highway to
[27:56] not only taylor services but to
[27:57] we've already taken corrective
[27:58] action and these grantees have
[28:00] serve the large population
[28:01] of the corrective action has
[28:01] of the house already in that
[28:01] community.
[28:02] been done they qualify or meet
[28:04] our intention clinton highway
[28:05] the criteria for the state or
[28:06] is to act as a hub to reduce
[28:06] the new block and all the
[28:09] things so we're not waiting to
[28:09] homelessness, not to promote or
[28:09] take corrective action.
[28:12] we've already done that and
[28:12] to add to it haircut's staff,
[28:13] volunteers, board of directors
[28:13] also we are very committed to
[28:15] having an open transparent
[28:16] process and this was publicly
[28:16] have spent a decade of learning
[28:17] what works.
[28:19] noticed these dollars were
[28:20] approved in the current fiscal
[28:20] this facility is modeled after
[28:21] the day center in johnson city
[28:24] year and you we also are going
[28:24] which is operated by executes
[28:25] college of nursing and has been
[28:28] to be at your suggestion having
[28:28] in existence since 1980.
[28:29] a workshop all about grants on
[28:29] one care cuts assist clients
[28:32] april twenty I believe and
[28:32] with obtaining tennessee state
[28:33] ids birth certificates both in
[28:35] and out of state.
[28:36] welcome your input on how we
[28:36] we act as a safe and secure
[28:36] can streamline I agree I'd
[28:39] mailing address for our clients
[28:39] rather have all the grants you
[28:40] haircuts, clean clothing and
[28:40] are not spread out necessarily.
[28:41] I think there's a lot
[28:42] of suggestions that we can hear
[28:43] laundry facilities are offered
[28:44] to those in need.
[28:44] from you all that can help us
[28:45] improve the process.
[28:45] we refer to numerous community
[28:47] I do hope you approve us
[28:48] providers and partners who
[28:48] tonight because our processes
[28:48] insist with who assist with
[28:51] may need improvements and
[28:52] housing, mental health and
[28:52] tweaking but you know these
[28:52] substance abuse programs.
[28:56] people have followed the rules
[28:56] church services, bible studies
[28:57] as we set forth and happened
[28:57] and prayer services are held on
[28:59] before many of you became, you
[28:59] site and we offer a computer
[28:59] know, joint council.
[29:00] lab and phone services during
[29:01] and so we want to hear your
[29:03] the day along with a variety
[29:04] of other ways to serve our own
[29:04] house.
[29:07] neighbors I would like to
[29:07] mention these services would be
[29:10] allowed in the zoning without a
[29:11] special use permit if we were
[29:15] offering the same service to
[29:18] people that were not labeled as
[29:19] an housed place.
[29:21] thoughts on how to keep
[29:21] improving them on april
[29:21] >> consider this for a moment.
[29:22] twenty third and you know
[29:23] before that as well.
[29:23] >> if I were to open an office
[29:24] but I'll turn it back over to
[29:24] council member health council
[29:25] for someone to come apply for a
[29:25] member parker thank you mayor.
[29:26] birth certificate it would be
[29:27] I did want to echo, um, some
[29:27] allowed if I was to open a
[29:28] issues raised by councilman
[29:29] grant because I was also at
[29:30] laundromat for someone to do
[29:30] that audit committee meeting
[29:30] their laundry it would be
[29:31] and not only concerned about
[29:33] the findings in the audit but
[29:34] allowed if I was to open a hair
[29:34] the discussion around the type
[29:34] salon it would be allowed.
[29:38] I am here today because by
[29:38] of culture that we need to
[29:41] definition a social service
[29:42] center explicitly defines
[29:45] build in our city to address
[29:45] people transitioning from
[29:46] homelessness and therefore
[29:48] triggers special use review
[29:48] these issues and it wasn't just
[29:49] sound.
[29:49] about having new policies in
[29:50] this definition comes with a
[29:53] certain stigma attached to it
[29:53] place but about the willingness
[29:56] if that is not a pure form
[29:56] to truly be transparent about
[29:57] of discrimination I do not know
[29:58] those policies and even in that
[30:00] what is.
[30:01] the people we serve in our
[30:01] meeting, you know, when we were
[30:04] community are often in the
[30:05] throes of the loneliest,
[30:05] discussing, um, you know, the
[30:08] hardest points in their life.
[30:08] city's current policies around
[30:09] some struggle with addiction,
[30:09] grants for nonprofits and
[30:10] some struggle with mental
[30:11] illness.
[30:12] some may have missed a paycheck
[30:13] and lost their place to live
[30:15] whether you know, the cash app
[30:16] but these are human beings.
[30:16] could be used as a payment,
[30:19] the reality is homelessness
[30:20] those policies are not, you
[30:21] doesn't just exist within a one
[30:24] know, given over immediately
[30:24] block radius of salvation army
[30:24] or other service providers.
[30:25] and that was raised as a
[30:28] concern of the auditors.
[30:28] the reality is that it affects
[30:28] every part of our community
[30:31] including clinton highway.
[30:31] we must get to a point to
[30:32] none of our opposition denied
[30:33] that there was a large
[30:35] councilman grant's point where
[30:36] population one house already in
[30:36] we can discuss these issues
[30:37] that area limiting resources
[30:39] and outlying areas because of a
[30:40] openly and transparent and have
[30:41] a clear understanding of what
[30:42] not in my backyard mindset
[30:43] is illogical.
[30:44] the only way to help this
[30:44] policies we have in place for
[30:47] these, uh, grants and how
[30:47] situation is to meet those
[30:48] experiencing the struggle where
[30:51] they are both in location and
[30:51] different organizations are
[30:52] learning about them or how much
[30:54] by creating trust.
[30:55] >> this opposition is built on
[30:56] notice are they given is at the
[30:56] fear, fear of the attraction
[30:57] same time of year every year
[30:59] and increasing the already
[30:59] that the grants are made
[30:59] existing problem doing nothing
[30:59] available?
[31:03] because we are fearful is not
[31:03] I still have questions around
[31:04] those and uh I believe those
[31:05] the right approach limiting
[31:06] outreach efforts will result in
[31:07] are concerns but that should be
[31:07] addressed.
[31:09] watching the existing situation
[31:10] multiply as a community we
[31:10] >> I also had another question
[31:12] about how the funds can be used
[31:14] should not fear adding humane
[31:15] thing by taking care of our
[31:15] and this is a question raised
[31:16] at the budget retreat but I
[31:17] underserved and unhealthy
[31:18] neighbors especially when those
[31:19] still have not had answer to
[31:19] it.
[31:21] caring for them have decade
[31:22] of experience.
[31:22] but I'm concerned about this uh
[31:22] a multitude of community
[31:23] , identifier for opportunity
[31:25] support and partnership and
[31:26] countless success stories
[31:26] behind them.
[31:29] youth that uh says must must be
[31:30] I will not ask my friends to
[31:30] a member of or associated with
[31:31] stand out of privacy that are
[31:33] here today but I have many here
[31:34] an active crew group or gang.
[31:34] and support that clearcuts has
[31:37] helped move forward from
[31:38] and for me that can mean so
[31:38] homelessness while so many see
[31:38] many things.
[31:41] fear let's change our mindset
[31:41] I'm hoping to get a clarity
[31:42] from the city on how you are
[31:44] to see opportunity.
[31:45] >> let's change our actions to
[31:46] defining an active group or
[31:49] alter the course of another
[31:49] human being's life.
[31:50] gang member buuck yeah.
[31:52] thank you for your time
[31:53] attention.
[31:53] I respectfully request that you
[31:54] and I think law enforcement
[31:55] partners can give a little more
[31:56] deny this appeal and hold
[31:56] knoxville knox county's
[31:58] definition around the
[31:58] definition of the firm
[31:59] definition of a crew for gang
[32:02] but I want to clarify that that
[32:03] unanimous decision of support
[32:05] is not a requirement for
[32:05] identification as an
[32:06] opportunity you have there are
[32:07] greeting.
[32:08] I'm chuck sarnie.
[32:09] several indicators that can be
[32:09] I'm a knox county general
[32:09] indicators for opportunity
[32:09] youth.
[32:12] sessions judge on the
[32:13] recovery court judge in knox
[32:14] one of them is associate with
[32:15] their car with a crew group or
[32:15] county.
[32:16] I started the veterans
[32:17] gang in some folks self
[32:19] treatment court and I recently
[32:20] started with the help of other
[32:20] identify that way another
[32:21] is disconnection from school or
[32:23] stakeholders our mental health
[32:23] court in knox county.
[32:25] work having been a crime victim
[32:26] let me take a second to say
[32:28] howdy to so many friends that I
[32:29] or I'm a family friend and so
[32:30] it's only one indicator but
[32:31] have known on this and say how
[32:32] even to the folks who are
[32:33] I'll pass off to thank you to
[32:34] just because I have limited
[32:35] opposing mr. Hamilton's been a
[32:36] time chief.
[32:36] good friend for a long time.
[32:39] he's a nice fellow but I think
[32:40] well could you speak to how law
[32:40] enforcement defines those
[32:44] things if or I apologize could
[32:46] he's wrong.
[32:47] you repeat the question how do
[32:48] you define an active crew group
[32:50] you know, the people that mr.
[32:50] hamilton might potentially
[32:51] or gang so how we define a gang
[32:54] rotten over with his car.
[32:54] as a group of people that are
[32:55] operate together to commit to
[32:56] commit crimes or engage in
[32:58] they're out there already.
[32:59] criminal activity and what's an
[33:02] there are unannounced neighbors
[33:02] .
[33:02] active group, a group of people
[33:03] who collectively work together
[33:06] they're there to be honest with
[33:06] you.
[33:07] a crew, a crew gang it's always
[33:07] the same thing.
[33:07] I might run over one of them
[33:08] it's a group of people who
[33:10] and I had to my house and I'm
[33:11] collectively work together to
[33:12] commit a criminal act criminal
[33:14] really sorry about that but I
[33:15] don't think we're going to be
[33:15] activity so that the the group
[33:17] able to chase these folks by
[33:21] doing something at coney island
[33:22] are gang what have been found
[33:25] criminally connected to a crime
[33:26] that actual gang will be
[33:29] connected to a crime in our
[33:33] city.
[33:33] for what purpose?
[33:37] I don't understand what you're
[33:37] asking for the purpose of this
[33:38] grant program but also for a
[33:41] project see we are p.l.c. Has
[33:42] and punitive to force them to
[33:43] relocate to somewhere else the
[33:44] way to help folks who are
[33:45] nothing to do with gang
[33:45] experiencing homelessness is to
[33:46] take one human being who has
[33:47] dignity and worth and help them
[33:48] not be homeless.
[33:49] and once you do that then you
[33:49] activity for I will follow up
[33:50] have the opportunity to try and
[33:50] with you with the budget
[33:51] repeat the experiment.
[33:53] I don't want to admit this but
[33:53] retreat conversation that's
[33:54] when this first came up was
[33:55] I guess I have to I don't think
[33:56] I have the compassion to
[33:57] around discussion of project
[33:59] actually interact with a human
[34:00] being who might scare me a
[34:01] zones and the um discussion
[34:03] little bit, who might be
[34:04] suffering from homelessness or
[34:04] of uh how these opportunity
[34:07] addiction or mental illness.
[34:08] youth were being identified and
[34:09] in our grant packet we have
[34:11] but I know who has that kind
[34:12] this definition of a member
[34:12] of compassion and who has done
[34:13] of our associate it with an
[34:14] it multiple times martillo
[34:16] active crew group or gang tlc.
[34:17] the tlc is a place we play
[34:19] rubeo, the leader of care cuts
[34:21] space strategy b may be able to
[34:21] confuse with some of the
[34:22] and I know that those wonderful
[34:22] nomenclature here but tlc is a
[34:23] volunteers that care cuts have
[34:23] place based strategy.
[34:26] helped lots of people not be
[34:27] it is nothing to do with
[34:28] individual gangs or conduct an
[34:28] individual gang members to
[34:29] homeless any longer, including
[34:30] but not limited to helping them
[34:31] crimes.
[34:32] ok, thank you miss parker.
[34:33] we'll go to some of your
[34:34] get cleaned up haircut, helping
[34:35] them get their driver's
[34:35] colleagues.
[34:36] lights are on and can come back
[34:36] to you.
[34:37] licenses and birth certificates
[34:39] yeah my my time is up but I
[34:39] so they can get jobs so they
[34:40] just need an answer to the
[34:42] can get housing the way we need
[34:43] question um and it doesn't have
[34:44] to happen at this time if it
[34:46] is simply a group
[34:46] to help this problem is help
[34:46] of individuals engaged in
[34:47] criminal activity.
[34:47] one person who has dignity and
[34:50] we're and then repeat that
[34:51] my next question would be
[34:52] is how do you know they're
[34:53] experiment.
[34:55] engaged in criminal activity?
[34:56] they've been convicted of a
[34:56] crime.
[34:56] thank you.
[34:57] >> the folks at haircuts have
[34:57] thank you, miss parker.
[34:58] done some wonderful things in
[34:58] the past and they're going to
[34:59] and just as of just a point
[35:00] of information, as miss
[35:01] do wonderful things for this
[35:02] community with your support,
[35:02] middlebrook said, that is not
[35:05] marty baker is one of the most
[35:06] unselfish and compassionate
[35:07] the only factor in how they
[35:08] decide how to which is the item
[35:09] persons I have ever had.
[35:10] she has the support of law
[35:11] enforcement in this community
[35:11] before the grants to help these
[35:11] youth.
[35:14] as a chief and she has the
[35:14] ok, so I think council member
[35:14] support of many other
[35:15] housley was next.
[35:17] nonprofits and agencies across
[35:17] this city.
[35:18] did you council member adams
[35:19] I'm proud to say that our
[35:21] mental health court which I
[35:22] thanks.
[35:24] started has worked with
[35:24] uh, I wanted to speak to
[35:25] councilman grant's um comments
[35:29] haircuts and some of our folks
[35:30] mainly about the idea that we
[35:30] are doing so out there even
[35:31] volunteering a care cuts to
[35:33] help homeless participants in
[35:33] expected not to see any more
[35:36] the mental health court.
[35:37] grants come before us until a
[35:37] listen, don't make this
[35:38] much later date which we were
[35:38] decision based on the fact that
[35:38] told at that february meeting.
[35:41] um, seeing what has happened
[35:43] already such a sweetheart do
[35:44] this because allowed care cuts
[35:45] since then to now I think there
[35:46] have been this is the third
[35:47] to use this facility in the way
[35:48] round of grants that we've seen
[35:48] .
[35:49] so I'm left to assume that my
[35:50] that they're planning because
[35:52] care cuts will help the un has
[35:52] question and comment at that
[35:54] to find housing.
[35:55] they'll help the unemployed to
[35:56] point was about that specific I
[35:57] cannot remember the name of it
[35:59] get jobs and care cuts will
[36:00] at this point but that specific
[36:00] opportunity and not the
[36:03] make this area safer, better,
[36:04] more compassionate for
[36:04] successive ones I'm agreeing
[36:05] with you in the sense that
[36:05] there are multiple
[36:07] everybody in the community.
[36:08] opportunities that it gets very
[36:09] confusing in terms of how much
[36:10] it's the right thing to do.
[36:12] money has an allocated to a
[36:13] particular entity.
[36:15] thank you for listening to me.
[36:16] when are the opportunities,
[36:16] thank you.
[36:16] when will there be future
[36:17] ben mallon's 550 west rain
[36:17] opportunities?
[36:17] street.
[36:18] I represent carrycot.
[36:19] there's no procedural defects
[36:19] in this.
[36:20] and I think that I would like
[36:22] the owner on the application
[36:22] the planning staff requires
[36:23] to make a request now for our
[36:23] april twenty third workshop
[36:27] owners on every application he
[36:27] that is focused on grants if it
[36:28] so he started the design center
[36:28] is at all possible to have a
[36:30] of table five point to design
[36:31] standards that he cited apply
[36:31] calendar that tells us or a
[36:32] little bit of course all of the
[36:34] to a different zone.
[36:35] opportunities that become
[36:35] they apply to the two zoni
[36:36] available to help us navigate
[36:36] which is different this one
[36:37] zoning there's different design
[36:38] standards that's that was just
[36:39] this I feel like that that
[36:40] would be a good tool to have
[36:42] inaccurate quote there's been a
[36:42] one other thing and this
[36:43] lot of talk about this not
[36:43] is because of what mr. Robinson
[36:45] being you.
[36:46] it's been auto centric area and
[36:46] said who spoke not against but
[36:48] a person of industry, an area
[36:49] when this new zoning ordinance
[36:50] was adopted in twenty twenty
[36:52] there are only two zones was
[36:53] allowed in the social services
[36:54] and that is to help alert the
[36:54] the non-profits and the
[36:56] s.h. One an institutional from
[36:57] so from the very beginning it
[36:57] agencies that can be eligible
[36:58] for these opportunities.
[37:00] was allowed for specifically
[37:01] called for in the highway
[37:01] there are probably many easy
[37:02] ways like a quick text alert
[37:05] commercial zone but beside the
[37:05] fact I said some pictures today
[37:05] like this coming in if you are
[37:06] this is one hundred and seventy
[37:06] an interested entity to be on
[37:08] feet away from where the
[37:09] sidewalk currently ends.
[37:09] that list, you get your your
[37:10] phone in there and it's an
[37:11] it's there at the bus station.
[37:12] we are leasing that space from
[37:13] alert not just an email but you
[37:14] have to go but a push
[37:15] technology that is sending
[37:15] bob monday there are
[37:16] twenty parking spaces that
[37:17] something there so people are
[37:17] more aware.
[37:18] I think those are the kinds
[37:19] of things that we do have the
[37:19] lease was submitted you know
[37:20] through peter errands to the
[37:21] law department.
[37:21] opportunity for.
[37:22] I just wanted to speak to your
[37:23] that's not part of the special
[37:24] use application but we do have
[37:25] concern council member adams.
[37:26] I've got good news.
[37:27] the parking that's required
[37:27] the grant calendar is already
[37:28] there and I understand I spoke
[37:29] on our website right now.
[37:30] you can google city
[37:30] to director brooks this morning
[37:31] of knoxville grant
[37:31] that there is contemplated
[37:32] future sidewalks in this area
[37:33] opportunities.
[37:34] it lists all the grants through
[37:35] all the different departments
[37:35] so that meets the the
[37:37] and we do our best to get these
[37:37] requirements to make it talked
[37:37] out.
[37:40] there's a lot of channels, a
[37:41] lot of noise, a lot of slop out
[37:42] about those vacant shopping
[37:43] center and what staff was
[37:44] there and sometimes just gets
[37:45] lost in the shuffle.
[37:46] really saying is this this
[37:46] but council members could be
[37:47] is an infill location because
[37:47] this bank has been
[37:49] great, you know, to amplify
[37:49] underutilized for years and now
[37:50] it can be put to good use
[37:52] those messages.
[37:53] instead of a greenfield
[37:53] development.
[37:53] we get them to you and then you
[37:54] and that was what was called
[37:54] get them out and that's nine
[37:56] more ways to hear those voices
[37:56] heard.
[37:57] out in policy eight point one
[37:57] but we do have a calendar it
[37:57] of the general plan.
[37:59] >> I know this is the boring
[37:59] is on also on our website we'll
[38:02] stuff but I need to get out in
[38:03] the record, make sure that that
[38:03] send we also send news releases
[38:04] to the media and anyone who
[38:05] you we make it clear that
[38:05] gets our news releases is aware
[38:06] planning staff did this right.
[38:07] of every grant opportunity in
[38:08] time for you know, when the
[38:09] applications are due, when
[38:10] they met they demonstrate how
[38:10] it meets all the applications.
[38:11] this is not zoning.
[38:11] there's opportunities to meet
[38:12] with staff to understand how to
[38:13] this isn't even a zoning
[38:14] application.
[38:15] zoning is a legislative action
[38:15] apply what the criteria are.
[38:16] and just so you know, at one
[38:16] where you're changing zoning.
[38:18] this is one we're not changing.
[38:20] point we had all the grants in
[38:20] you want a special use
[38:21] is allowed in that zone.
[38:21] one one you know, the community
[38:22] it just has to go through the
[38:23] agency grants is the main thing
[38:24] extra process which we've
[38:24] and that was all one time
[38:25] of year.
[38:25] already pointed out is a bit
[38:26] unfair because the only reason
[38:26] but one of the reasons that at
[38:27] the time it seemed like a good
[38:28] idea to have more opportunities
[38:29] we're going through the extra
[38:29] process is because the people
[38:30] people would come up in march
[38:31] we serve are housed everybody
[38:32] or july and be like hey, we we
[38:34] have this great program to help
[38:35] engage kids during the summer.
[38:35] else getting these services who
[38:36] have a home who are not
[38:38] but we didn't we didn't reply
[38:38] back in january.
[38:39] suffering from some type
[38:39] we didn't know about it because
[38:39] of disability or addiction can
[38:40] we're new or fledgling or
[38:40] get these services at this
[38:43] whatever and they we had no
[38:44] location permitted, go get the
[38:44] permit.
[38:45] and speaking of getting the
[38:46] grant programs that were
[38:47] available in those mid middle
[38:47] permit that was done because
[38:48] there was a permit issued
[38:50] you know, besides that one
[38:51] annual calendar.
[38:52] conditional upon the appeal
[38:52] process to the board.
[38:54] so it's a it's a classic like
[38:54] is there any appeals because
[38:55] today's solutions can be
[38:55] the law department and the
[38:58] director of zoning determined
[38:58] tomorrow's not sure problems
[38:58] just sort of areas
[38:59] that this was actually exempt
[38:59] of confusion.
[38:59] from zoning because of the
[39:02] so we we we want to keep
[39:02] religious freedom act
[39:03] improving and getting the word
[39:03] out and maybe consolidating
[39:03] of tennessee and rluipa of the
[39:06] that some would be better.
[39:06] federal counterpart that's not
[39:07] I'm not sure if consolidating
[39:07] before us today that just went
[39:08] is the right thing if it's
[39:10] through the bca earlier today
[39:11] imperfect then it may be all
[39:11] the bca upheld the planning
[39:11] of the above.
[39:13] directors or the zoning
[39:13] but I I recognize that there
[39:14] directors decision on that.
[39:14] are people who are not getting
[39:15] it may be before you in the
[39:18] future but we can't do anything
[39:19] the word that need to get the
[39:19] until this whole process
[39:19] word and that there is some
[39:22] is concluded so there's not
[39:22] anything nefarious or
[39:22] blurriness around all the
[39:22] underhanded.
[39:23] different opportunities.
[39:23] I didn't know about that
[39:26] we follow the rules every step
[39:26] of the way.
[39:31] staff laid out in detail why
[39:33] this meets all the requirements
[39:34] of the special use application.
[39:35] I expounded upon that in my
[39:38] letter that sent you all and
[39:39] I'm and I do appreciate the
[39:39] opportunity to meet with the
[39:40] neighbors.
[39:41] we met with them for about two
[39:42] hours and I think that there
[39:44] particular list so whoever can
[39:45] text it to me immediately I'll
[39:45] get it.
[39:45] were some things that were
[39:46] addressed that that were
[39:46] we'll send out to all council
[39:47] members on an email but I would
[39:48] beneficial and the biggest
[39:48] like that to be part of our
[39:49] part of our workshop just some
[39:49] thing is with regard to the
[39:49] education there in terms
[39:50] of what those opportunities
[39:50] are.
[39:51] it is probably going to send
[39:52] you guys the link.
[39:52] thank you.
[39:52] safety safety is our number one
[39:53] priority.
[39:53] I don't know who was next mr.
[39:54] we care about these people more
[39:54] thomas or mr. Grant.
[39:54] than anybody.
[39:55] mr. Thomas, you haven't spoken
[39:56] yet on this item back to you.
[39:56] simply a great news about the
[39:57] calendar.
[39:57] haircut's cares about these
[39:57] people more.
[39:58] it's good and I simply wanted
[39:58] they want to keep them safe.
[39:58] to say that councilperson
[39:59] grant's got a lot of experience
[40:00] they know how they were.
[40:00] in the nonprofit world and his
[40:01] points are well taken and I
[40:02] they are they know they help
[40:03] think we will have a really
[40:04] good opportunity at this
[40:05] provide them rides when needed.
[40:05] workshop which we did a poll
[40:08] among the council people and
[40:08] they help make sure they get
[40:09] there safely and they have a
[40:11] this one got a priority of of
[40:11] tremendous track record in
[40:12] action.
[40:12] their current location which
[40:15] is right across from one of the
[40:16] so I'm hoping that we can
[40:16] most popular pizza restaurants
[40:17] really get a lot of these
[40:17] in town and hasn't affected
[40:19] their business one bit.
[40:20] issues discussed and addressed
[40:20] at that workshop.
[40:20] it's not going to affect these
[40:21] but I just want to say I
[40:23] businesses one bit.
[40:24] appreciate your your bringing
[40:24] this to our attention and you
[40:27] mr. Hamilton's anecdotes only
[40:27] make some really good points
[40:28] go to show that these people
[40:28] and we look forward to kind
[40:29] of digging into this.
[40:32] thank you, council member
[40:32] grant.
[40:32] that need this help are already
[40:33] in the area and we're willing
[40:35] yeah, I mean I just want to
[40:35] to help them and we're willing
[40:36] take note I mean when you look
[40:36] to help them within the
[40:37] confines of the law and we've
[40:38] at the 13 grants ten of them
[40:39] are in my district.
[40:40] met use special use
[40:40] of application staff laid out
[40:41] you can rely on staff
[40:43] I want us to be mindful that
[40:44] recommendation as material
[40:44] ten of these organizations are
[40:44] evidence to support your
[40:44] decision.
[40:47] in district six and so you
[40:48] there's case law on that.
[40:49] so I'd ask that you uphold this
[40:49] decision.
[40:49] thank you.
[40:51] mr. Marlen's mr. Hamilton, you
[40:51] know, I'm not up here, you
[40:54] know, making statements just
[40:55] based off my own accord.
[40:56] right.
[40:56] there's community members who
[40:58] can come back to a podium.
[40:58] have these concerns, this
[40:59] community members who don't
[40:59] you may have up to two minutes
[41:02] have the voices or the platform
[41:03] or or maybe even tired
[41:05] for rebuttal.
[41:06] of showing up to council if
[41:07] they feel like it's going to be
[41:07] passed anyway.
[41:10] the question of fear there was
[41:11] those the unspoken truths that
[41:13] a person killed on avenue
[41:15] aren't said and so we have to
[41:15] do better.
[41:17] unless the couple of months ago
[41:17] I know I mean we keep saying
[41:18] I was connected to a homeless
[41:19] you know, we know we got to fix
[41:19] this.
[41:22] person stabbing motel six just
[41:22] we know we got to fix this and
[41:23] a couple of weeks ago right
[41:23] I know we do got to fix this
[41:24] but it's not fair to the
[41:25] there merchants drive again
[41:27] organizations who are on this
[41:28] you know, on these applications
[41:29] another homeless, a takeover
[41:29] who are receiving the funding
[41:30] of waffle house where the
[41:30] to have to feel like they're
[41:33] police had come and clear the
[41:34] being criticized because our
[41:35] processes aren't what they need
[41:35] area, take it back from one the
[41:35] to be.
[41:39] so to say, you know, they
[41:39] homeless people.
[41:39] expect it.
[41:40] >> there is an epidemic
[41:40] I mean that's another thing
[41:42] that I'm confused.
[41:43] it's like well we need to prove
[41:43] of crime.
[41:44] this because they're expecting
[41:45] it.
[41:47] how are they expecting it as
[41:47] council members?
[41:49] we haven't voted on it.
[41:50] we have to deal with that.
[41:51] what are we up here for if we
[41:54] don't have our own opinions and
[41:54] it is this claim that there's
[41:55] we can't take the feedback from
[41:55] going to be a twenty eight
[41:58] our constituents and bring it
[41:59] here, we have to do better.
[41:59] people a day and how they're
[42:00] going to park well, we know
[42:02] I mean I'm not opposing them.
[42:02] there's six parking spots.
[42:04] I've counted it and I don't
[42:05] I just want to make no that we
[42:06] understand that we have to do
[42:07] better and I would like to ask
[42:10] right now on the record are
[42:10] count twenty.
[42:11] there any grants coming before
[42:13] this issue of fear is real.
[42:14] us before april one either miss
[42:17] middlebrook, I think this
[42:17] it's not helpful when a city
[42:18] is the last from your
[42:18] department for this season.
[42:21] refuses to follow its own rules
[42:24] can you clarify so to clarify,
[42:25] I believe in the february
[42:26] doesn't change the analysis.
[42:28] meeting the question was about
[42:29] our grant making process and
[42:30] no ceo should have been issued
[42:30] because no permit should have
[42:32] whether or not there was
[42:33] been accepted according to
[42:33] another application period
[42:33] being opened and the answer to
[42:37] that was no, not until next
[42:37] sixteen twelve b six which
[42:38] year because as has been noted,
[42:38] quote no building permits
[42:40] should be issued until city
[42:41] the application for these came
[42:41] in between november and
[42:44] council acted on the appeal.
[42:45] december which was the block
[42:45] time period for those
[42:45] how are we supposed to trust
[42:46] applications.
[42:48] the review process is staggered
[42:49] any of the system if the system
[42:49] because we have multiple
[42:50] is not paying attention to its
[42:52] committees reviewing different
[42:52] own rules?
[42:52] applications and so was based
[42:56] on when those can meet and then
[42:56] also considering other items on
[42:56] thank you for the opportunity.
[42:59] ok, thank you council members.
[43:00] the agenda and it is best to
[43:01] bring items and so all of these
[43:03] applications across our the
[43:04] that concludes the first part
[43:07] o.s.s. Grant program were
[43:08] of this hearing now you may
[43:08] opened and closed at the same
[43:08] discuss it as us council member
[43:11] thomas yes, if I understand
[43:11] time in terms of other items
[43:12] that may be coming before
[43:14] attorney frost right.
[43:15] council, the only things that
[43:16] remain that currently to my
[43:18] our charge today is to apply
[43:19] knowledge remain open are the
[43:19] the special use standards to
[43:20] grants that the empower knot's
[43:22] initiative does which are
[43:23] this application and I've gone
[43:23] similar to our micro grant
[43:24] through the packet as best I
[43:26] programs for other programs
[43:27] that folks can apply for on a
[43:28] rolling basis.
[43:30] could and I will say clearcuts
[43:31] is there a vincent if council
[43:31] does not want to see those
[43:35] does great work and I've been a
[43:35] grants at this time we can go
[43:35] ahead and close that
[43:36] supporter of them for a long
[43:36] application for the event grant
[43:38] so that we don't bring anything
[43:39] time.
[43:39] else.
[43:39] I've attended their side and
[43:40] but in terms of our larger
[43:40] williams I've attended their
[43:40] grants this is the last one but
[43:42] luncheons.
[43:43] they are open and closed at the
[43:44] if my memory serves me well
[43:44] same time and were received at
[43:46] the same time.
[43:48] well, mr. Grant, I mean I think
[43:49] it's easy unless there's some
[43:50] unless someone on my staff can
[43:51] tell me that there's a pending
[43:54] grant that's time sensitive
[43:54] between now and april.
[43:57] twenty third I think we can say
[43:58] that there's not going to be
[43:59] any more between now and april.
[44:02] twenty come into council for
[44:04] I've dispersed some city funds
[44:05] your review and approval and
[44:05] to them when I had an
[44:06] opportunity.
[44:06] let me know now if that's mayor
[44:07] that's not yes.
[44:07] so this is not about the good
[44:08] work that that haircut does and
[44:09] I know a lot of them on first
[44:10] basis first name basis.
[44:11] the issue here is whether or
[44:11] not this particular site meets
[44:12] the criteria of a special use
[44:12] we do have I believe challenge
[44:13] grant park neighborhood
[44:13] and I've gone through I've read
[44:14] challenge grant neighborhood I
[44:14] everything in the packet I've
[44:15] tried to analyze the lawyers
[44:16] think our I'm sorry ibrahim um
[44:17] from parks and recreation.
[44:18] agreements as best as possible
[44:21] ok, coming before us on march
[44:22] and looking at the six criteria
[44:24] under sixteen point to have to
[44:24] the thirty first.
[44:25] ok so there will be the
[44:27] there's four that really give
[44:27] neighborhood parks and rec
[44:28] challenge grants come in for
[44:29] your review.
[44:31] me pause and huge questions
[44:32] those are again those have been
[44:33] around a long time and they're
[44:34] about whether or not they are
[44:35] actually met.
[44:35] pretty small dollar amounts and
[44:39] the first one is whether the
[44:39] the total is is if I believe
[44:39] use is consistent with the
[44:40] I'm correct I think it's less
[44:41] than twenty five thousand
[44:43] adopted plans and policies
[44:43] including the general and the
[44:44] dollars in total across a
[44:44] number of organizations.
[44:47] any others that I know of off
[44:48] the top of your head?
[44:49] I don't think so.
[44:49] one year plan and the that
[44:50] certification is to promote
[44:52] ok, but again, you know, there
[44:53] redevelopment of vacant or
[44:55] sometimes we stretch them out
[44:57] largely vacant shopping centers
[44:58] just to uh you know, have
[44:59] shorter agendas but maybe
[45:01] and this is not a vacant or
[45:01] largely vacant shopping center.
[45:02] that's not a good idea anyhow.
[45:04] we want to hear more about how
[45:05] it has ongoing businesses.
[45:07] we can improve on april
[45:07] twenty third and also continue
[45:08] so under section one which
[45:09] would be trying to promote
[45:10] the conversation tonight as you
[45:12] want counts vice if you get
[45:13] redevelopment of a vacant
[45:14] shopping center or largely
[45:14] thank I would just respectfully
[45:17] vacant this should not apply so
[45:18] request that if you find after
[45:18] you get in your offices
[45:19] tomorrow and what you did not
[45:20] that criteria was not met
[45:22] know off the top of your head
[45:23] tonight you find that there
[45:25] whether it has the use in
[45:25] harmony with general purpose
[45:26] is another one coming to us
[45:26] before april.
[45:29] and intent of the zoning
[45:29] please let us know otherwise I
[45:29] code says the one district
[45:30] look forward to a very robust
[45:33] is intended to accommodate high
[45:34] workshop on april twenty third
[45:37] intensity commercial uses of a
[45:40] because this is new to it's a
[45:40] lot lot of grants.
[45:41] predominantly auto orien it
[45:43] the city gives away a lot
[45:44] character and that is the
[45:45] situation there on merchants
[45:47] of community grant money and so
[45:48] look forward to discussing all
[45:52] road and me being someone who
[45:53] promotes pedestrianism and
[45:55] our processes and oh ok.
[45:56] no other lights on the motion
[45:56] loves pedestrianism, the use
[45:59] on the floor to approve this
[45:59] item.
[45:59] of this would be primarily
[46:00] twelve f all those in favor
[46:02] please say ay ay yi opposed
[46:03] opposed motion carries eight
[46:04] pedestrian and so as much as I
[46:08] wish that wasn't the case,
[46:09] that's what the the
[46:11] code requires.
[46:12] the code talks about is about
[46:13] one next item please 12 g is a
[46:16] an auto centric auto oriented
[46:16] resolution authorizing the
[46:17] mayor to execute an agreement
[46:18] with connect ministries to
[46:20] provide individual case
[46:21] management, wraparound social
[46:22] services and emergency
[46:22] character in so the fact that
[46:24] the proposed use here is not an
[46:25] relocation support to
[46:25] individuals at high risk for
[46:28] auto centric proposal does not
[46:28] being involved in community
[46:29] based violence for an annual
[46:30] amounts not to exceed one
[46:31] get no.
[46:31] two either.
[46:32] hundred eighty six thousand one
[46:35] no for the use will not
[46:36] hundred dollars council.
[46:36] there's a couple of people
[46:39] significantly injure the value
[46:39] signed up to speak item twelve
[46:39] g.
[46:39] of adjacent property owners
[46:40] we'll start with those in favor
[46:47] first monica read this re thank
[46:47] etc. And the the planning staff
[46:47] you.
[46:48] if you could say your name and
[46:51] just issued one sentence on
[46:51] address for the record and
[46:51] their findings.
[46:52] you'll have up to three minutes
[46:52] it says the proposal is not
[46:55] expected to significantly
[46:55] monica read thirty six fifteen
[46:56] injure the value of any
[46:56] martin luther king jr. Avenue
[46:58] connect ministries connect
[46:59] ministries has been in e
[46:59] adjacent properties.
[46:59] knoxville for nearly
[47:00] that was their total findings.
[47:02] twenty years.
[47:03] it had no substance to it.
[47:03] we have reviewed the proposed
[47:06] contract for the office from
[47:06] it had no evaluation about why
[47:07] the office of community safety
[47:07] just a blanket statement.
[47:08] in a power missler kenya has
[47:10] it's not expected significantly
[47:10] the canek has the capacity to
[47:11] injure the value of adjacent
[47:14] execute the terms of the
[47:14] properties like a council.
[47:15] proposed contact tracked in the
[47:15] I've got a packet of eighty
[47:17] scope of work connected
[47:18] community based resource where
[47:19] over 80 comments and I think
[47:21] people come to find some hope.
[47:22] we are excited about the
[47:22] only two were in support
[47:23] of this location for its
[47:26] possibility of being a part
[47:27] of this team violence reduction
[47:27] intended use and I read every
[47:29] in an effort to stabilize the
[47:29] streets here in knoxville
[47:30] knowing that the participants
[47:31] one of those comments and the
[47:32] theme that runs through them
[47:33] that are enrolling are those
[47:33] who have voluntarily come to
[47:33] is we're not against clearcuts
[47:34] , we're concerned with the
[47:37] say that I want to change my
[47:38] life and the promise for a
[47:38] safety but these were well
[47:38] written.
[47:41] better life for me and my
[47:42] family probers.
[47:42] it wasn't form submissions and
[47:42] twenty three and seven say as
[47:43] many of them were by business
[47:45] far as a man thinks in his
[47:46] heart, so is he.
[47:46] owners along that corridor and
[47:48] we want to provide a space for
[47:49] participants to think for a
[47:50] they have valid concerns and
[47:51] this is not just some
[47:51] unspectacular speculation
[47:53] change destabilizing streets
[47:54] program and partnerships formed
[47:54] of fear.
[47:55] they have valid concerns about
[47:57] with various organizations
[47:58] how this will impact their
[47:58] business.
[48:00] including the manabu center and
[48:01] others to make this program
[48:02] one of the comments was from a
[48:02] successful.
[48:05] thanks to the structure laid
[48:06] former volunteer of crosscuts
[48:06] out by mr. Mccain, miss
[48:08] middlebrook and her office
[48:08] designed to allow participants
[48:08] sorry clearcuts on williams
[48:09] to change their thinking in
[48:09] avenue and they talked about
[48:12] order to change our lives, the
[48:13] the impact that it had on
[48:13] life and the lives of their
[48:13] businesses.
[48:16] families any programs that are
[48:17] >> mr thomas said your time
[48:17] going to be successful must
[48:17] is up.
[48:18] ok, I will yield to my
[48:18] colleagues.
[48:19] ok, I'll come back.
[48:20] have dollars allocated for
[48:21] thank you mayor.
[48:21] support services necessary for
[48:22] other comments or questions or
[48:23] the petition and their families
[48:24] to include intense case
[48:25] motions from other council
[48:25] members.
[48:28] management, intense case
[48:29] council member parker in our
[48:30] rules we can also request
[48:31] management and with a lot
[48:32] of walking alongside and a lot
[48:33] additional time.
[48:34] I would really like to hear
[48:35] of handholding through every
[48:36] phase of this program that they
[48:36] your full arguments if you
[48:37] don't mind continuing doesn't
[48:38] seem like anybody else is ready
[48:39] enter for a new life the new
[48:39] way of life.
[48:40] to speak.
[48:41] and I just want to say that
[48:41] I'll second that mr thomas will
[48:43] commitment ministry is doing
[48:44] this in the city and we are
[48:44] go back to you if you put the
[48:44] trusted messengers.
[48:45] clock back at another three
[48:45] five minutes.
[48:46] one of the trusted messengers
[48:46] of the city.
[48:47] and I just think that the
[48:50] structure that's laid out for
[48:51] the weekly reporting and the
[48:51] ok so I can so you know I
[48:54] talked about how the this would
[48:54] weekly gatherings have all
[48:55] of the partners come together
[48:55] injure the businesses and the
[48:58] property values that's
[48:58] to share what's happening, to
[48:59] substantiating the record and
[48:59] share participants work that we
[49:02] these are people who are
[49:02] do every department needs case
[49:03] management because you can
[49:03] observers of that area and they
[49:03] manage for connect.
[49:06] own businesses there and
[49:06] you can't do my case
[49:06] management.
[49:07] they're talking about how this
[49:08] I have to do my role and so
[49:10] is going to impact about how
[49:10] every entity that's a part
[49:11] of this have to have all the
[49:13] pieces in their organization to
[49:14] hand walk these people through
[49:14] this process.
[49:14] already it is and based glee
[49:15] and so we just thank you for
[49:15] the situation we're in I was a
[49:18] the opportunity connect to be a
[49:19] council member when all this
[49:19] part of it and come to speak
[49:19] happened and I could see it
[49:21] today in favor of this
[49:21] contract.
[49:22] thank you.
[49:22] before my eyes but it was when
[49:25] thank you.
[49:26] black stock the housing area
[49:26] next person signed up to speak
[49:27] and around black stock was they
[49:27] in favor of this item is jan
[49:29] kominski.
[49:30] did a sweep and it forced all
[49:30] miss kominski, if you could
[49:31] come to the podium, state your
[49:32] name and address for the record
[49:33] the homeless out of black stop
[49:34] and you'll have up to three
[49:34] because of complaints from
[49:37] neighbors there.
[49:38] and so where did they go?
[49:41] they went north and so that's
[49:42] when I started hearing
[49:44] minutes to address council.
[49:44] complaints about these issues
[49:45] >> hey, my name is jean
[49:45] kaminsky.
[49:45] that have been spoken from from
[49:49] the podium and I hear them
[49:52] consistently, you know, and
[49:53] this happened after the the
[49:56] black stock camp was cleaned
[49:56] out.
[49:58] and so what I'm concerned about
[49:59] is we're going to start another
[50:03] mission this district in
[50:03] merchants road where people
[50:06] I live at five four or one
[50:06] three seven eight four nine.
[50:07] will be going there even more
[50:07] I'm the executive director
[50:08] of community mediation center
[50:09] here in knoxville and we work
[50:09] with courts, families and
[50:10] community partners to help
[50:10] people resolve conflict in a
[50:11] constructive and accessible
[50:11] where the services aren't
[50:11] way.
[50:11] centralized.
[50:12] and we've been doing so since
[50:12] so I don't need it.
[50:13] nineteen ninety four but I'm
[50:13] not here tonight to speak about
[50:14] my organization and I'm here to
[50:15] speak in support of connect
[50:15] I don't think it meets the
[50:15] ministries.
[50:16] I've gotten to know their work
[50:17] through my involvement in the
[50:17] violence reduction provider
[50:18] network where organizations
[50:19] meet weekly to brainstorm ways
[50:19] criteria of not significantly
[50:19] to provide wraparound services
[50:20] injuring the value of adjacent
[50:20] to individuals and families who
[50:23] properties based on what the
[50:23] are facing serious challenges.
[50:24] people and business owners in
[50:24] and week after week I see
[50:26] that area have said.
[50:27] number six, the nature
[50:27] connect ministries showing up
[50:28] in very real and in practical
[50:30] of development is round here.
[50:31] ways.
[50:31] it's not such as to pose a
[50:32] they're not just talking about
[50:32] solutions.
[50:33] they're actively helping people
[50:34] potential hazard and we've
[50:34] navigate housing instability,
[50:35] find employment and rebuild
[50:38] heard about how there's a lack
[50:38] their lives post incarceration.
[50:38] of infrastructure there.
[50:39] they really do meet people
[50:39] this is a pedestrian community
[50:42] where they are and provide
[50:42] that will be using the space
[50:43] support that seems really
[50:46] grounded and really responsive
[50:46] .
[50:46] and that is a very auto centric
[50:47] and so what has really stood
[50:48] out to me is the way that their
[50:49] area and we don't have the
[50:50] infrastructure there to
[50:51] team approaches this work,
[50:52] they're a thoughtful, creative
[50:53] accommodate this type of foot
[50:54] problem solvers and they're
[50:54] traffic and it's going to be
[50:55] willing to step into complex
[50:57] dangerous for the people who
[50:58] situations and help people move
[50:59] forward.
[51:01] are using this facility and a
[51:02] they're doing the kinds
[51:02] lot of the comments that are in
[51:02] of hands-on relationship based
[51:03] work that makes a real
[51:05] our packet was people who are
[51:05] talking about this.
[51:06] difference even when it's not
[51:06] >> they were talking about the
[51:07] always easy to measure.
[51:08] care of the the the users
[51:10] they seem to understand the
[51:11] real barriers that people are
[51:11] facing as well as understanding
[51:13] of this facility and how
[51:13] the systems that people need to
[51:14] dangerous this is going to be
[51:14] navigate and are willing to
[51:17] walk with people through that.
[51:17] and we're going to allow this
[51:18] so from my perspective there
[51:18] use there without us taking
[51:18] are strong and reliable partner
[51:20] care of the under lying
[51:21] infrastructure that would need
[51:21] in this community and their
[51:22] work contributes directly to
[51:23] to be put in place there.
[51:25] stability, safety and better
[51:26] long term outcomes for people
[51:26] here in our community.
[51:28] so based upon that I am going
[51:30] so I just wanted to take this
[51:31] moment to show up in support
[51:32] of their work and to share what
[51:32] to move to approve the appeal
[51:32] which is one of the tough ones
[51:33] I've seen firsthand from them.
[51:34] so I hope they're able to
[51:35] I've had to do.
[51:36] secure this funding so that
[51:37] they can continue to expand the
[51:39] but my analysis anyway of this
[51:40] particular situation, the
[51:40] good work that they do.
[51:41] thank you for your time.
[51:43] criteria for special use
[51:44] thank you, counsel.
[51:45] there's one person who signed
[51:47] is that the criteria are not
[51:48] granted are not met.
[51:48] up to speak against us.
[51:49] that's what is categorized on
[51:49] my sheet.
[51:50] mr. Robinson.
[51:50] thank you.
[51:51] >> ok, motion has been made to
[51:52] matthew robinson, you're not
[51:52] grant the appeals are second to
[51:52] speaking in us, ok?
[51:54] this motion hearing none.
[51:56] that concludes people who have
[51:58] the motion fails for lack of a
[51:59] signed up to speak to this item
[51:59] second.
[51:59] .
[52:00] is there motion to deny the
[52:02] appeal?
[52:03] council member graham thank
[52:03] you.
[52:03] >> I would like to make a
[52:04] motion to deny that has been a
[52:07] motion made and second to deny
[52:07] the appeal.
[52:08] any questions are discussion.
[52:10] >> mayor deja vu.
[52:10] I'd like to make a short please
[52:11] there's a few council members
[52:11] I know I would like to begin
[52:14] that planning you made this
[52:14] up here who was in this very
[52:17] position last year when the
[52:18] this was what they recommended
[52:21] city decided to move forward
[52:22] to to a planning commission and
[52:23] it passed planning permission
[52:23] nine zero went back and watched
[52:25] within ikeja.
[52:26] the meeting and I feel like
[52:27] they they read through these
[52:29] you know, in ikeja has done
[52:29] good things.
[52:31] you know, I won't take away the
[52:33] five merrett and so that was my
[52:34] credit from that but now I'm
[52:36] starting point and then I read
[52:37] finding ourself in the same
[52:37] through the five minutes myself
[52:38] and begin to understand some
[52:40] position where we're not
[52:40] creating a process that's
[52:40] things and looking at many
[52:44] of the things that councilman
[52:44] instrumental to the community.
[52:45] thomas just outlined I see
[52:45] I can't take away anything from
[52:48] janeck ministries in terms
[52:48] differently I see that a
[52:49] of the effort they do more than
[52:49] sidewalk ends at arby's which
[52:51] is on the same block as this
[52:52] what they just say.
[52:53] >> I never see them turn
[52:55] place is just to the north west
[52:55] around, turn around anybody at
[52:55] of that.
[52:56] so it's it's on the same block.
[52:59] it just hasn't been continued
[52:59] the door on but that doesn't
[53:00] but it's literally less than
[53:03] one hundred feet away.
[53:04] I also feel that with the bus
[53:06] mean that what we have in place
[53:07] has been added to the community
[53:07] stop nearby it makes sense for
[53:10] in terms of providing case
[53:11] people to be coming and going.
[53:11] management to hire this
[53:12] I think of work haircuts
[53:14] currently is right now and I'm
[53:15] in commercial real estate.
[53:18] the value of that property
[53:18] individual again, I think the
[53:19] because of all the businesses
[53:19] process needs to be better.
[53:20] there the back building sold
[53:20] I think we can do a much better
[53:22] for over two hundred fifty
[53:23] job in terms of creating an
[53:23] dollars square foot which
[53:23] ecosystem where you have
[53:25] is the same amount it's right
[53:26] different violence prevention
[53:26] there on that block so I do not
[53:27] organizations, where you have
[53:29] see their property things go
[53:30] different wraparound services
[53:30] down and then as a track record
[53:31] at the table and controlling
[53:31] thinking about whether this
[53:33] would bring harm to the
[53:34] neighborhood, I feel like
[53:37] that table for the matter I
[53:37] william street and what the
[53:37] don't know.
[53:38] business that is there right
[53:41] I think it's very disappointing
[53:41] now, the services they provide
[53:42] actually make it part of the
[53:43] safest part of that district
[53:44] for us to try to implement a
[53:45] and I have the confidence that
[53:45] you know, the kaseman and the
[53:46] property values will not drop
[53:48] wraparound services emergency
[53:48] relocation.
[53:49] and it will increase the safety
[53:50] of what is already a problem up
[53:52] these are things that I can
[53:52] there.
[53:53] recall at that at the meeting
[53:53] >> so thank you council member
[53:56] last may that the current
[53:56] parker.
[53:56] organization that we're
[53:57] contracted with is supposed to
[53:59] thank you, mayor.
[54:00] be on there hasn't been any
[54:00] conversation about that
[54:03] organization.
[54:04] >> right.
[54:04] >> um, and I also want to share
[54:05] a few of my thoughts ahead
[54:05] of the vote.
[54:07] so here it is again.
[54:08] it's almost like we're making a
[54:11] double investment in services
[54:12] at the same time we're saying
[54:14] crime is and violence is going
[54:18] down.
[54:19] yet it seems like we're just
[54:21] trying to disperse funds
[54:22] rapidly.
[54:26] it feels like to be able to
[54:26] >> I appreciate the thoughts
[54:26] address the issue when I can
[54:28] shared by council member thomas
[54:28] speak firsthand that you can't
[54:30] and and also by the appellant's
[54:30] the attorney.
[54:31] >> I think there are definitely
[54:32] throw money at the problem.
[54:32] some compelling arguments being
[54:32] made.
[54:33] you know, when you talk about
[54:33] however, for me the arguments
[54:34] violence prevention work and
[54:34] applied more to the commercial
[54:37] community based violence, I've
[54:38] highway zoning rather than the
[54:38] been able to do it on a street
[54:39] standards for evaluating the
[54:40] level.
[54:41] I've been able to do it on an
[54:42] administrative level and I've
[54:44] had the fortunate opportunity
[54:45] to be elected by my
[54:46] constituents to be up here on
[54:46] special use.
[54:47] council to try to shape the
[54:47] >> the comments that have been
[54:48] different policy that we need
[54:50] so we can move forward with a
[54:50] provided about this location
[54:52] better process.
[54:53] that conversation needs to be
[54:53] have been very thoughtful and I
[54:55] had.
[54:56] it needs to be it needs to be
[54:57] believe they are deserving
[54:58] of consideration but for me
[54:59] had very, very soon.
[55:00] if not we will have a problem
[55:04] on our hands and so we have to
[55:05] they were not convincing enough
[55:06] for me to move in that
[55:07] stop putting bandaids on guns.
[55:09] direction to council member
[55:11] >> a 15 year old just shot a
[55:12] self about thirty minutes ago I
[55:13] thomas's point there is a
[55:14] growing mission district in
[55:15] got a text message stop and go.
[55:17] this area and is not one that
[55:18] fifty road shootings, violence
[55:21] has happened on accident.
[55:22] >> it's an area that has been
[55:22] in our community to me I think
[55:23] it's important it's important
[55:24] that we address it the right
[55:25] that was previously used or
[55:26] maybe continues to be used by
[55:27] way and I just don't feel like
[55:30] the county for, you know,
[55:30] the way the city is going about
[55:33] hotels, motels, space for those
[55:33] it is the right way.
[55:34] >> but I just wanted to get
[55:35] that on record.
[55:37] recovering from, you know,
[55:38] infectious diseases and it was
[55:38] we have to do better.
[55:39] we have to stop putting a
[55:41] certainly used during the
[55:42] band-aid on the process and if
[55:43] not it's going to be
[55:44] pandemic and that's why we have
[55:45] this growing population
[55:45] detrimental to us as a city.
[55:46] we will see violence go back up
[55:48] of folks in the area that
[55:49] weren't there previously or at
[55:49] if we don't continue to do it
[55:50] better.
[55:52] thank you.
[55:53] least one of the reasons why.
[55:56] and so it is something that we
[55:56] >> council member parker.
[55:57] have to acknowledge as a city
[56:00] if if if we have leaned on the
[56:00] thank you, mayor.
[56:00] hotel motel services in that
[56:04] area to service a certain
[56:05] we we are learning more about
[56:05] community that we know need
[56:11] other services, it is our
[56:11] these grant processes than we
[56:11] responsibility to ensure that
[56:12] have previously and I
[56:13] appreciate the additional
[56:14] those services are then
[56:15] information.
[56:16] provided and care cuts is one
[56:19] of those services in my opinion
[56:20] like the other speakers have
[56:20] one aspect of the program that
[56:23] was just described though the
[56:24] raise some concerns for me.
[56:26] said, I don't believe this
[56:27] service with lower property
[56:28] um, the weekly meetings and the
[56:29] values in the area or the
[56:30] neighborhood but would only
[56:33] bring a much needed service
[56:34] that hopefully would help to
[56:35] support and the conversations
[56:36] it depends on what these
[56:38] improve the area, help to
[56:38] conversations look like.
[56:39] you know, I've done a lot
[56:42] provide some structure and a
[56:42] of work around education,
[56:43] place for folks to go so that
[56:43] justice and around school
[56:46] they're not lingering in that
[56:46] discipline issues and one
[56:46] situation but they're actually
[56:47] of the concerns when it comes
[56:49] moving forward towards housing
[56:50] .
[56:51] that's the purpose of a service
[56:53] to school discipline is um,
[56:54] like haircut's is provide those
[56:54] wanting to avoid creating a
[56:54] needed services but also help
[56:58] move folks forward in life
[56:58] stigma around the child so one
[56:59] forward towards housing forward
[57:01] teacher may have an experience,
[57:02] may have some disciplinary
[57:04] um, so I'm in support of this.
[57:05] issues with the child.
[57:08] I am also devastated to see
[57:08] clearcuts leave downtown the
[57:12] absolute devastated um you will
[57:13] um, well what we want to avoid
[57:14] is a situation where that
[57:16] serve a new population that
[57:17] teacher been in the third grade
[57:17] teacher now they're gossiping
[57:19] needs you but I know there were
[57:20] with the fourth grade teacher.
[57:20] going to be people sad to see
[57:21] you go as well.
[57:21] now when that child goes off to
[57:23] we need you in both places
[57:24] is how I feel.
[57:24] fourth grade, that teacher
[57:25] but I do believe that this
[57:28] needs the standards for a
[57:28] is expecting certain behavior
[57:28] special use.
[57:32] and it almost creates this the
[57:32] but I think that these issues
[57:33] stigma or you know, the student
[57:33] of how we're using our highway
[57:35] commercials should be
[57:36] gets labeled and potentially
[57:39] doesn't get that fair chance
[57:39] considered, you know, in the
[57:40] future discussions because
[57:40] and I'm worried about that
[57:43] these services do make more
[57:43] happening in this situation
[57:44] sense in these walkable
[57:44] with how we're defining the
[57:44] youth.
[57:45] communities that we are
[57:47] developing throughout the city
[57:48] um, and what kind
[57:50] and we don't want to only zone
[57:51] them for highway, commercial,
[57:52] of confidentiality and privacy
[57:55] regional commercial five acre
[57:56] are we adhering to as they are
[57:59] given access to, you know,
[57:59] large institutional plots like
[58:00] that is our responsibility to
[58:02] various services and forms
[58:03] of therapy?
[58:03] to relook at our zoning code.
[58:04] um, I think these are much
[58:04] we're going to be going through
[58:07] it soon and take into
[58:07] needed but I am a little
[58:11] concerned about how a more
[58:11] consideration what is best for
[58:11] these services moving forward.
[58:15] collective approach might give
[58:15] and I do believe they need to
[58:15] be in walkable communities.
[58:18] but for this issue today I do
[58:19] believe that it does meet the
[58:19] great support to the adults who
[58:20] are leading these efforts.
[58:22] standards plan to vote in
[58:22] favor.
[58:23] thank you.
[58:23] but I worry about the the
[58:24] private kissi concerns for that
[58:26] council member thomas.
[58:27] yes, thank you.
[58:27] child, the stigma that can
[58:28] surround that child especially
[58:30] council member for your
[58:30] thoughtful comments.
[58:31] in uh, a small community like
[58:31] knoxville.
[58:33] I appreciate that one general
[58:34] comment and I will be very
[58:35] um, so if you wouldn't mind
[58:36] brief one general comment
[58:37] is that there's kind of two
[58:39] sharing more about that aspect
[58:40] of the work, I'd love hearing
[58:40] it.
[58:40] yeah.
[58:41] schools of thought about where
[58:42] the un house should be located
[58:43] so for clarity with regards to
[58:44] this service contract and the
[58:45] and how they should be
[58:47] nets that you hear, they are
[58:48] administered to and helped and
[58:50] contracts for for direct
[58:51] services as is most of us know
[58:52] the city doesn't do a lot
[58:52] one of them is to disperse the
[58:54] of direct services and so we
[58:55] connect with organizations who
[58:56] different helping agencies into
[58:57] are doing that work in our
[58:57] different parts of the city and
[58:58] community primarily the
[59:01] that's that's a valid school.
[59:02] participant in these services
[59:02] I thought there another school
[59:02] are not young people.
[59:05] of thought is that you keep it
[59:05] most of them are young adults,
[59:06] middle adults, older adults
[59:09] kind of where they have access
[59:09] sometimes.
[59:11] so it is not specific to young
[59:12] to services and the services
[59:13] are in such a proximity that
[59:14] people all the providers that
[59:15] are currently in our provider
[59:17] they can actually serve each
[59:17] network and it is a growing
[59:17] other better because you have
[59:20] cities that's kind of what
[59:20] ecosystem of providers who can
[59:21] we've had I think up on
[59:21] engage and effectively support
[59:23] broadway.
[59:25] the populations that we are
[59:25] so you would have calm you have
[59:25] looking to serve.
[59:28] salvation army etc. So those
[59:28] are two valid schools
[59:29] of thought.
[59:29] all of them are in agreement
[59:32] what's happening here
[59:32] with our confidentiality
[59:32] is because of the closing
[59:33] policies where the discussions
[59:36] of black stock as I mentioned
[59:37] that happen in the coordination
[59:40] is that population went from
[59:40] downtown north to merchants
[59:41] meetings are for the group and
[59:44] do not extend beyond that and
[59:44] road in my district and the
[59:45] neighbors and the businesses up
[59:45] as individuals enroll in
[59:47] there have been confronted with
[59:49] participation with different
[59:52] this situation that they
[59:53] weren't used to and there's
[59:53] providers they each provider
[59:54] has their own releases
[59:56] of information that allowed
[59:57] them to coordinate services or
[59:58] lots of valid concerns so I
[59:59] just wanted to kind of make
[1:00:00] care among other providers that
[1:00:01] they may be working with.
[1:00:02] that general statement about
[1:00:03] how there are two schools
[1:00:03] and so we are very thoughtful
[1:00:04] of thought and both of them
[1:00:04] to adhering to the privacy
[1:00:05] concerns for individuals that
[1:00:07] have legitimate say about you
[1:00:08] know, you want to disperse
[1:00:08] are participating but it allows
[1:00:09] an opportunity for folks who
[1:00:09] may be serving these
[1:00:11] services throughout the city
[1:00:11] where things will be fair and
[1:00:14] no particular neighborhood will
[1:00:16] have to bear the brunt of a
[1:00:19] large on house population and
[1:00:20] the other one is have more
[1:00:23] central locations where you can
[1:00:24] actually provide these services
[1:00:27] more effectively.
[1:00:30] individuals to identify gaps in
[1:00:30] services and coordinate with
[1:00:31] >> what is happening here
[1:00:31] other providers to ensure that
[1:00:32] care is coordinated, that we
[1:00:33] are not missing opportunities
[1:00:33] to serve or sometimes even
[1:00:34] double serving in places and
[1:00:35] is that merchants road and the
[1:00:35] then leaving gaps and others
[1:00:36] and so a lot of the folks who
[1:00:37] these organizations are
[1:00:38] engaging with are actually
[1:00:38] adults who can make those
[1:00:38] fifth district my district has
[1:00:39] determinations and sign those
[1:00:39] releases for themselves and
[1:00:40] been taking the brunt of this
[1:00:40] they can talk more.
[1:00:41] the organizations are here.
[1:00:41] they can talk more about what
[1:00:42] their processes are for sure
[1:00:43] and confidentiality and privacy
[1:00:43] relocation of un housed people
[1:00:44] for their clients.
[1:00:45] and then as a follow up
[1:00:46] and what I want to ask my
[1:00:48] question, none of the
[1:00:50] colleagues to do for my
[1:00:51] individuals who receive these
[1:00:52] services and end up being
[1:00:54] district this is your this
[1:00:54] is not your district.
[1:00:55] clients of connect ministries,
[1:00:55] I get that.
[1:00:58] none of that information
[1:00:58] but I I'm really going to need
[1:00:59] your help.
[1:01:02] I can't do it myself and this
[1:01:02] is shared with kapiti correct?
[1:01:03] my district is bearing the
[1:01:03] correct.
[1:01:06] brunt of this this movement
[1:01:06] their their private information
[1:01:07] is retained as private
[1:01:07] information by the organization
[1:01:10] is shared with provider
[1:01:10] networks.
[1:01:11] the law enforcement does not
[1:01:12] of un housed individuals and to
[1:01:13] the extent of any other
[1:01:14] participate in a service
[1:01:14] provider network.
[1:01:15] it's solely for service
[1:01:16] district and so it's not fair
[1:01:18] providers in city of knoxville
[1:01:18] .
[1:01:19] that's perfect.
[1:01:19] thank you.
[1:01:20] to allow this situation to
[1:01:21] ok, thank you.
[1:01:24] happen in one particular
[1:01:25] just a just a little context
[1:01:27] for those of you who are newer
[1:01:28] district without offering as
[1:01:28] much help as you can.
[1:01:29] to council is you know when we
[1:01:30] had a surge in violence in
[1:01:32] twenty twenty in twenty twenty
[1:01:35] so if this passes I'm going to
[1:01:36] encourage my colleagues to do
[1:01:36] one we at the time had limited
[1:01:37] tools mostly law enforcement
[1:01:39] whatever they can to have that
[1:01:40] understanding even if it's not
[1:01:41] and we realized that we needed
[1:01:42] community based interventions
[1:01:43] in your district, you know we
[1:01:44] are going to need help from law
[1:01:45] not just law enforcement to
[1:01:45] reduce the violence in our
[1:01:46] city.
[1:01:47] so we started the office
[1:01:47] enforcement, from social
[1:01:49] of community safety later that
[1:01:50] was consolidated with the
[1:01:50] office of community safety and
[1:01:51] services, from the the homeless
[1:01:53] empowerment and then we worked
[1:01:54] on the various group violence
[1:01:54] entities, aaron reed, everybody
[1:01:57] reduction strategies, street
[1:01:58] anybody we can because this
[1:01:59] violence and eruption teams and
[1:02:00] community based services the
[1:02:02] is happening up there and the
[1:02:03] neighbors can see it and they
[1:02:04] project tlc but but the one
[1:02:05] thing that has been, you know,
[1:02:08] taken some time to develop and
[1:02:09] can see the the the ambiance
[1:02:09] mature is the you know, the
[1:02:11] sticks are the easy part.
[1:02:12] you know, we catch you we
[1:02:13] and circumstances and I guess
[1:02:13] prosecute, put you in jail if
[1:02:15] you if guilty of a crime, you
[1:02:16] know.
[1:02:17] the nature of their communities
[1:02:18] and their business is changing
[1:02:19] so when we bring when we know
[1:02:20] identify people who are at risk
[1:02:21] because of a larger influx
[1:02:23] of committing violence or being
[1:02:24] a victim of violence, we want
[1:02:25] of very needy citizens.
[1:02:25] them to not just have a stick
[1:02:27] but carrot and these item
[1:02:29] so I just want to I guess put
[1:02:30] that on the record that since
[1:02:30] twelve g and h are those
[1:02:31] carrots so we can say you want
[1:02:33] the fifth district is now going
[1:02:34] to start has been taking the
[1:02:34] to get out of a life of crime
[1:02:35] but you need a safe place to go
[1:02:37] brunt of of this situation, I'm
[1:02:38] going to be asking for
[1:02:38] because you feel vulnerable in
[1:02:39] your current house or maybe
[1:02:41] everybody's help and you know,
[1:02:41] your own house can you know
[1:02:43] this provider can help you with
[1:02:43] that you're you've been
[1:02:45] I'll just make some personal
[1:02:45] notes here.
[1:02:46] involved illegal activities
[1:02:46] I just because different people
[1:02:47] because you're short on money
[1:02:49] up here share different things
[1:02:50] connected to maybe get you
[1:02:51] house you know, help with rent,
[1:02:53] you know, I worked in guatemala
[1:02:53] help with the job training to
[1:02:54] city for over two years and the
[1:02:54] you know, those sorts
[1:02:54] of things.
[1:02:57] garbage dump and these were
[1:02:57] so it's it's not just like stop
[1:02:57] people who were making their
[1:02:58] doing this or else you know,
[1:02:58] you're either going to you
[1:03:00] living out of the garbage dump
[1:03:01] and I saw people who were
[1:03:01] know, face criminal
[1:03:02] prosecution.
[1:03:03] we wanted to offer those
[1:03:05] carrots so the item twelve
[1:03:06] is the connect ministry case
[1:03:07] searching for food in the midst
[1:03:08] of buzzard's there was hundreds
[1:03:09] case manager to help people
[1:03:10] with these wraparound social
[1:03:11] of people and hundreds
[1:03:12] of buzzards actually trash
[1:03:13] services and then the next item
[1:03:14] is help with, you know,
[1:03:15] cognitive behavioral therapy
[1:03:16] picking and competing to live.
[1:03:17] and other things and they're
[1:03:17] so I don't want anybody to
[1:03:18] both contracts that are
[1:03:18] invoiced and you know, they're
[1:03:20] think that I was born on city
[1:03:22] up to the amount that you're
[1:03:22] approving tonight.
[1:03:23] so it's not like we just hand
[1:03:23] council or born as a lawyer.
[1:03:24] but I know this community, you
[1:03:25] them over the money.
[1:03:25] they'll receive referrals and
[1:03:27] know, so anything I'm
[1:03:28] advocating is not at all
[1:03:29] then build a city based on the
[1:03:30] amount of money available per
[1:03:31] carlist I totally get it.
[1:03:31] these agreements that you're
[1:03:32] considering tonight.
[1:03:33] what I'm trying to do is do
[1:03:35] something fair for the
[1:03:36] council member grant got a
[1:03:37] question on a couple
[1:03:39] community and also lessen the
[1:03:40] of statements for director
[1:03:43] impact on on healthy
[1:03:44] middlebrook.
[1:03:45] can you define case management
[1:03:47] communities and help businesses
[1:03:48] which is unfairly being levied.
[1:03:48] for me and then we can you
[1:03:51] thank council member housley.
[1:03:52] define life coaching and can
[1:03:52] thank you mayor.
[1:03:53] you distinguish the difference
[1:03:56] I just like to say I don't know
[1:03:56] between the two?
[1:03:56] how we know where homeless
[1:03:59] people came from.
[1:04:00] >> so life coaching involves
[1:04:00] they if they came from I
[1:04:00] direct services that could
[1:04:02] thought maybe they did um but I
[1:04:03] think all parts of town have
[1:04:04] mirror in some regards case
[1:04:05] management but it's much more
[1:04:06] issues with homeless people
[1:04:07] live in south nashville and
[1:04:07] there's a lot of homeless
[1:04:08] broad so your life coaches are
[1:04:08] typically engaging with
[1:04:09] individuals multiple times a
[1:04:10] people on south knoxville.
[1:04:11] >> um, I think in the meantime
[1:04:11] week having at least one
[1:04:12] I think the criteria has been
[1:04:12] in-person contact with them and
[1:04:14] met for this appeal.
[1:04:15] they are helping to connect
[1:04:18] however, I feel like as a city
[1:04:19] them to resources and services
[1:04:19] we just have to do something.
[1:04:19] that they may need.
[1:04:20] it's not just in one part
[1:04:22] of town.
[1:04:23] so they do have the mission
[1:04:23] but sometimes it is not even
[1:04:24] district downtown which does
[1:04:24] connecting to resources and
[1:04:24] services.
[1:04:25] sometimes it's just being a
[1:04:25] listening ear.
[1:04:26] serve people but the ones in
[1:04:26] it's being a safe place.
[1:04:27] the other parts don't have
[1:04:27] it's being somewhere that they
[1:04:30] can build a relationship and
[1:04:34] connection in a meaningful way
[1:04:35] that helps them feel more
[1:04:35] comfortable engaging services
[1:04:38] in a lot of times the life
[1:04:38] coaches actually walk alongside
[1:04:41] them to engage with other
[1:04:41] service providers.
[1:04:45] so one example that I can give
[1:04:46] is that life coaches for not
[1:04:47] service in are still there.
[1:04:48] I mean for god's sakes,
[1:04:49] cokesbury methodist church down
[1:04:49] soapies this has been mentioned
[1:04:49] there I mean they're way down
[1:04:50] earlier have actually taken
[1:04:50] deep west in the county and
[1:04:51] there's homeless people all
[1:04:51] over down there.
[1:04:52] so I just think we have a
[1:04:53] individuals to ministries to
[1:04:53] problem we need to rectify at
[1:04:53] some point.
[1:04:54] engage in services that connect
[1:04:55] but I don't think any part
[1:04:55] of town is exempt and I will
[1:04:56] wholeheartedly support
[1:04:56] ministries may have because
[1:04:56] haircut's the motion before a
[1:04:57] they know that those
[1:04:57] council is to deny this appeal.
[1:04:57] individuals may not necessarily
[1:04:58] council member thomas yeah.
[1:04:58] very quickly in response to
[1:05:00] walk through the door on their
[1:05:00] miss clb, I know that there's a
[1:05:00] own.
[1:05:01] homeless problem all over the
[1:05:01] city.
[1:05:01] >> the case managers really
[1:05:04] help to assess what the needs
[1:05:04] I get that.
[1:05:05] are, identify kind of a
[1:05:05] but what we're seeing in this
[1:05:05] holistic approach to their
[1:05:07] particular area and I know it
[1:05:08] was when I know when it started
[1:05:09] needs and then can help them
[1:05:09] engage the services that they
[1:05:10] may need.
[1:05:11] happening it's when we cleaned
[1:05:12] out the camps under blackstock.
[1:05:12] so it may be employment
[1:05:13] services, it may be housing, et
[1:05:13] cetera.
[1:05:15] anybody in merchants road can
[1:05:16] and so the two things work
[1:05:16] tell you and I don't think
[1:05:17] together and then as I
[1:05:20] there's any other part of the
[1:05:20] mentioned the third piece that
[1:05:21] will come before you in just a
[1:05:22] few minutes also works with
[1:05:23] city that is taking as many
[1:05:24] unannounced individuals and as
[1:05:24] that in allowing in
[1:05:24] opportunities for individuals
[1:05:27] to engage the therapeutic
[1:05:27] a need for the city to help the
[1:05:28] situation.
[1:05:28] mental health services that
[1:05:30] then there is in north
[1:05:30] knoxville.
[1:05:31] >> thank you.
[1:05:31] they may need to be supported
[1:05:32] and effective in participating
[1:05:34] ok, any further questions or
[1:05:35] discussion saying none just as
[1:05:36] in some of the other services.
[1:05:37] and so the life coaches kind
[1:05:38] of walk alongside them in all
[1:05:39] a reminder a yes vote is to
[1:05:40] deny the people all those in
[1:05:40] favor.
[1:05:40] of those aspects where as the
[1:05:41] case managers through connect
[1:05:42] please say and he opposed the
[1:05:44] would be hyper focused on
[1:05:45] meeting some of those needs
[1:05:45] that identified that their
[1:05:46] motion to deny his council
[1:05:46] members.
[1:05:49] there's been a couple
[1:05:50] of requests for a brief recess
[1:05:50] services can address.
[1:05:51] so that's pretty much the same
[1:05:53] so we'll reconvene at seven
[1:05:54] thirty five and those of you
[1:05:55] thing a case manager and a life
[1:05:56] coach when you're talking about
[1:05:57] who are leaving please take
[1:05:58] this opportunity to leave
[1:05:58] working with individuals is the
[1:05:58] same thing.
[1:06:00] quietly and stay if you're
[1:06:01] the point I'm making is we
[1:06:02] already have funding out here
[1:06:05] for life coaches that are
[1:06:06] working with high risk
[1:06:06] individuals who are already
[1:06:10] doing the work and so here it
[1:06:12] is we're looking to duplicate
[1:06:13] the same thing.
[1:06:14] right.
[1:06:15] I don't know if we're just
[1:06:17] looking to disperse the funds
[1:06:20] for whatever reason but this
[1:06:21] is just not making sense for us
[1:06:25] to duplicate services when I'm
[1:06:26] looking at the contract and I
[1:06:29] see j.r. And we have 200
[1:06:29] twenty five thousand dollars
[1:06:30] out there already for five life
[1:06:31] welcome to stay if you wish
[1:06:33] coaches earn enough high risk
[1:06:34] individuals out there.
[1:06:40] there is and so it's not making
[1:06:44] sense and I hope you know, I
[1:06:45] don't want to be the one to you
[1:06:50] know, come off as you know,
[1:06:51] trying to say that connect
[1:06:55] ministries isn't doing the
[1:06:55] work.
[1:06:56] like I said, I don't think
[1:06:57] there's anything you can say
[1:06:58] about the program but just be
[1:06:58] careful.
[1:07:02] be careful.
[1:07:03] connect ministries it's
[1:07:07] difficult work is challenging
[1:07:08] when you're working with high
[1:07:08] risk individuals you do have to
[1:07:10] walk that fine line.
[1:07:11] you know, when it when it comes
[1:07:14] to the safety of these
[1:07:15] individuals providing certain
[1:07:18] information to law enforcement
[1:07:19] or to the city can be
[1:07:22] detrimental for those
[1:07:22] individuals.
[1:07:24] so as you're doing the work and
[1:07:24] you're working with these five
[1:07:27] individuals, just be mindful
[1:07:27] of that.
[1:07:28] but we have to do a better job
[1:07:29] of dispersing spending our
[1:07:34] funds.
[1:07:35] I mean if you get I think miss
[1:07:37] parker had her line on first
[1:07:38] council member parker sure.
[1:07:41] to things.
[1:07:42] the reason I'm asking this
[1:07:48] question is because both in
[1:07:53] terms of who were identifying
[1:07:54] for, uh, financial support but
[1:07:57] then also who we are uh
[1:08:01] targeting for what the mayor
[1:08:02] described as the stick, not the
[1:08:04] carrot.
[1:08:05] um, it just sounds like
[1:08:08] predictive policing.
[1:08:12] so I'm trying to get a sense
[1:08:13] of are we doing predictive
[1:08:15] policing and how are we um you
[1:08:19] know, identifying people who
[1:08:20] could potentially be a victim
[1:08:21] of a crime or who could
[1:08:24] potentially, um, commit a
[1:08:25] crime.
[1:08:27] and so that's why I keep asking
[1:08:27] those questions.
[1:08:31] council member grant just
[1:08:32] stated that there are not that
[1:08:35] many high risk individuals in
[1:08:36] our community but when we have
[1:08:39] such broad definitions, a lot
[1:08:40] of people can fit into that
[1:08:41] definition of who might be
[1:08:45] considered a high risk
[1:08:49] individual and then what stigma
[1:08:50] then is attached not only to
[1:08:53] the individual but to a
[1:08:54] community?
[1:08:58] um, for the knoxville peace
[1:09:01] group was was brought up in and
[1:09:05] I see j.r. Contract and I
[1:09:06] wanted to ask I thought that
[1:09:08] was a short six month contract.
[1:09:09] was it a year long contract?
[1:09:13] is that contract not expired?
[1:09:17] and so you contract so it has a
[1:09:20] few more months on the contract
[1:09:20] now.
[1:09:21] uh, yes.
[1:09:24] do do we have any idea what
[1:09:28] comes next?
[1:09:29] because my understanding was
[1:09:32] that knoxville peace I believe
[1:09:34] and I see as they as we asked
[1:09:36] them is coming to offer
[1:09:37] training to anyone who's
[1:09:40] willing to get more training.
[1:09:42] I can't like be what's the name
[1:09:43] of it anyhow to other entities
[1:09:44] again we're trying to have an
[1:09:47] ecosystem of community
[1:09:48] supportive services to to stop
[1:09:51] people from being violent and
[1:09:52] let's say we serve someone who
[1:09:55] instead of a ninety nine
[1:09:56] percent likely to commit
[1:09:59] violence or a ninety five
[1:10:00] percent that would still be
[1:10:00] helpful.
[1:10:02] maybe someone gets access to
[1:10:03] job training to mental health
[1:10:06] services or housing and then
[1:10:07] they're less risk of being a
[1:10:10] victim of committing violence.
[1:10:11] I think that's it's a good
[1:10:15] problem to have that we are a
[1:10:16] less violent city today than we
[1:10:19] were five years ago and I think
[1:10:19] that's a credit to the office
[1:10:22] of community safety and all
[1:10:23] many people have been part
[1:10:26] of developing this ecosystem
[1:10:26] of community services.
[1:10:27] I think for every dollar we
[1:10:29] invest in community
[1:10:29] organizations like connect
[1:10:51] ministry and some of the grants
[1:10:52] that you all proved last agenda
[1:10:53] item helps us be a safer city.
[1:10:54] I think you can look at our
[1:10:54] crime statistics.
[1:10:55] I think that's credit to credit
[1:10:56] but I also think it's credit to
[1:10:56] these community based
[1:10:57] organizations that we don't
[1:10:57] just have an absence
[1:10:58] of violence, we have a presence
[1:10:59] of peace and that's that's what
[1:10:59] this is about.
[1:11:01] well, my assessing what um the
[1:11:03] outcomes of these efforts
[1:11:04] should be an ongoing process
[1:11:08] and I do not believe we've
[1:11:10] talked about the data really
[1:11:15] since a lot of these programs
[1:11:16] and efforts began and since
[1:11:19] then I've heard, you know, the
[1:11:22] uh we're starting to see
[1:11:26] different victims of gun
[1:11:27] violence in our community
[1:11:30] rather than than than the
[1:11:31] demographics that we were
[1:11:34] largely seeing five years ago.
[1:11:41] and so that tells me, you know,
[1:11:44] uh, that it's time to reassess
[1:11:49] and to see where the needs are
[1:11:49] currently.
[1:11:50] but if we simply just keep
[1:11:53] doing the same thing and we
[1:11:53] just assume certain
[1:11:54] neighborhoods are where the
[1:11:57] violence is going to happen and
[1:11:58] certain people are going to be
[1:12:00] the people who commit the
[1:12:01] violence even though we're
[1:12:02] seeing those numbers shift and
[1:12:04] we're seeing other demographics
[1:12:05] committing the violence, that's
[1:12:09] where we start to see a biased
[1:12:12] form and we start to see the
[1:12:13] you know, racial profiling and
[1:12:16] then we start to see the stigma
[1:12:16] forming.
[1:12:17] and so that's why I'm asking
[1:12:19] these questions.
[1:12:21] if we see data shifting, we see
[1:12:21] violence is down.
[1:12:24] we the other demographics in
[1:12:28] the violence and needing those
[1:12:31] supports as well.
[1:12:32] it's you know, it's time to
[1:12:33] have a conversation about where
[1:12:37] we're focusing our efforts.
[1:12:38] vice mayor, if you're good,
[1:12:39] thank you.
[1:12:41] I move that we approve their
[1:12:46] second motion to approve has
[1:12:46] been made and seconded.
[1:12:47] did you have any further
[1:12:50] discussion, vice mayor?
[1:12:54] ok, no lights are on all those
[1:12:55] important oh well I actual
[1:12:57] individual roll call for this
[1:12:58] particular line item please.
[1:12:59] ok roll call votes been
[1:13:02] requested if you could please
[1:13:05] uh do the roll call vote usmani
[1:13:06] if you could yes.
[1:13:09] councilman grant no councilman
[1:13:12] housley councilman honeycut yes
[1:13:13] .
[1:13:16] councilman lloyd no kathleen
[1:13:17] parker yes.
[1:13:21] councilman thomas abstained on
[1:13:23] this one.
[1:13:24] councilman adams councilman
[1:13:28] adams yes.
[1:13:29] councilman demar laykoon.
[1:13:29] yes.
[1:13:32] where the vote is six and favor
[1:13:36] two opposed with one abstention
[1:13:41] motion carries next item please
[1:13:46] eleven hs resolution
[1:13:47] authorizing the mayor to
[1:13:47] execute an agreement with the
[1:13:50] and russ macnab center inc. To
[1:13:50] provide individual and group
[1:13:53] therapy to individuals
[1:13:54] identified as being at high
[1:13:54] risk for involvement in
[1:13:57] community based violence and
[1:13:58] enrolled in outreach and or
[1:14:01] life coaching for annual
[1:14:02] amounts not to exceed one
[1:14:03] hundred twenty one thousand
[1:14:05] dollars.
[1:14:06] can I council we have two
[1:14:09] people signed up one in favor,
[1:14:10] one against.
[1:14:13] I will start with persons lined
[1:14:14] up in favor of item twelve
[1:14:17] which candice allen miss miss
[1:14:18] allen uh she could approach the
[1:14:21] podium state your name address
[1:14:22] the record and you'll have up
[1:14:22] to three minutes to address
[1:14:25] councilman candice allen um
[1:14:26] address two hundred tech center
[1:14:28] drive knoxville, tennessee.
[1:14:32] um, I'm here tonight to support
[1:14:37] um the um uh project that is in
[1:14:37] front of you.
[1:14:41] um, we are involved initially
[1:14:45] with the training in two
[1:14:46] thousand and twenty two that
[1:14:49] was provided to us through the
[1:14:52] violence reduction center and
[1:14:53] during that time it was very
[1:14:57] apparent to us that one of the
[1:14:58] things that they had carved out
[1:15:00] that was very one of the
[1:15:04] components of the model was
[1:15:05] that individuals needed
[1:15:08] individual and group therapy
[1:15:09] and not only did they recommend
[1:15:13] that they also cited cbt, which
[1:15:13] is cognitive behavioral therapy
[1:15:17] and as the most successful
[1:15:20] model that they had, you know,
[1:15:24] that they had experienced in
[1:15:25] all their success with their
[1:15:26] other models that they'd put in
[1:15:27] different cities.
[1:15:29] >> so just to give you a brief
[1:15:32] idea of what that entails, cbt
[1:15:36] as it is called is a evidence
[1:15:39] based structured therapy model
[1:15:39] .
[1:15:43] it is provided specifically for
[1:15:45] individuals that have a pattern
[1:15:48] of negative thinking which
[1:15:49] turns into negative behaviors
[1:15:52] in this helps in to identify
[1:15:56] and to move forward in and you
[1:15:57] know, experience some positive
[1:15:57] goals.
[1:16:00] and so this really is is
[1:16:01] pertinent towards a group
[1:16:04] therapy kind of model.
[1:16:04] for example, it could be
[1:16:07] something that they attend
[1:16:08] several weeks that would
[1:16:11] involve making better decisions
[1:16:12] , identifying purpose, working
[1:16:15] through trauma and time because
[1:16:16] we know that the majority
[1:16:16] of the individuals that we come
[1:16:19] across there refer to this
[1:16:19] initiative.
[1:16:24] they have a lot of trauma in
[1:16:27] the finally it would be a the
[1:16:28] final week might be life skills
[1:16:31] and financial literacy.
[1:16:32] >> so that's just one example
[1:16:34] that the master's level person
[1:16:36] , the therapist would also be
[1:16:39] providing individual therapy to
[1:16:40] the participants in this would
[1:16:43] be a wide range of evidence
[1:16:47] based modalities of treatment
[1:16:47] that they're specifically
[1:16:47] trained in.
[1:16:51] so in summary, I'm here to
[1:16:52] support that a dedicated
[1:16:55] therapy must be assigned to be
[1:16:59] able to conduct these type
[1:16:59] of group and individual
[1:17:03] sessions for individuals.
[1:17:04] what we know is is that
[1:17:06] individuals need a whole stick
[1:17:10] approach and mental health
[1:17:11] is paramount in helping them
[1:17:15] establish a foundation and
[1:17:15] maintain that foundation so
[1:17:19] they can make positive changes
[1:17:19] in their lives.
[1:17:20] thank you for your time and
[1:17:21] attention.
[1:17:26] appreciate it.
[1:17:26] thank you.
[1:17:28] next person signed up to speak
[1:17:30] to this item, signed up against
[1:17:32] it maybe inadvertently mr.
[1:17:36] robinson.
[1:17:37] ok, well please come to the
[1:17:38] podium said your name and
[1:17:40] address for the record you'll
[1:17:41] have up to three minutes to
[1:17:41] address council.
[1:17:42] >> yes ma'am.
[1:17:44] my name is matthew robinson,
[1:17:45] executive director of up knocks
[1:17:48] in my address is forty eight
[1:17:48] 2014 if you wait three seven
[1:17:51] nine one eight if I'm not
[1:17:55] mistaken helen ross mcnabb
[1:17:56] already gets millions and
[1:17:59] millions of funding in to my
[1:17:59] knowledge they've been around
[1:18:03] for decades and not really had
[1:18:04] any specific interest in
[1:18:07] violence interruptions
[1:18:09] specifically I may be wrong but
[1:18:10] I understand understand I'm not
[1:18:11] opposed to anybody doing this
[1:18:13] work.
[1:18:15] we we need all the help we can
[1:18:15] get.
[1:18:18] but I've also said before
[1:18:18] understanding that taking these
[1:18:19] job descriptions and positions
[1:18:22] in and putting them
[1:18:22] systematically in a process
[1:18:26] takes away the personal aspect
[1:18:27] of all situations pertaining
[1:18:30] and will likely adopt the wish
[1:18:31] that already exists between
[1:18:33] professionals in that world the
[1:18:33] people in the real world
[1:18:34] dealing with the real life
[1:18:37] issues creating these new job
[1:18:37] descriptions and positions in
[1:18:38] companies that have already
[1:18:41] been around forever also
[1:18:42] negates opportunities for other
[1:18:45] organizations and new violence
[1:18:46] reduction models to receive
[1:18:48] appropriate funding because if
[1:18:49] the city puts x amount
[1:18:50] of dollars in this line of work
[1:18:53] already then why would it want
[1:18:54] to keep investing more
[1:18:56] especially more specifically
[1:19:00] after it's reached its cap?
[1:19:01] I also personally think that
[1:19:04] that this specific line gives
[1:19:05] premise to a perception that
[1:19:09] the city's current model is not
[1:19:10] working and is successful is is
[1:19:12] as successful as was promised
[1:19:13] because if so why would they
[1:19:14] feel the need to implement
[1:19:16] these new different job
[1:19:17] positions in these companies
[1:19:17] that have already been around
[1:19:20] for decades?
[1:19:21] again, part of the reasons that
[1:19:21] certain organizations are
[1:19:24] successful in this line of work
[1:19:25] is because they come from and
[1:19:28] most still live in the same
[1:19:29] environments that the work
[1:19:32] is needed and being done in.
[1:19:33] and believe it or not, there
[1:19:33] are still many qualified
[1:19:35] individuals in those areas
[1:19:37] waiting for a chance to make a
[1:19:37] difference in the places that
[1:19:38] they grew up in and currently
[1:19:40] live.
[1:19:40] >> thank you.
[1:19:43] thank you council members that
[1:19:44] concludes people have signed up
[1:19:47] to speak to item twelve h
[1:19:48] council member grant and then
[1:19:58] vice mayor fugo oh.
[1:19:59] I mean I have to echo some
[1:20:01] of the things that mr. Robinson
[1:20:05] said.
[1:20:06] you know, some of some of these
[1:20:09] things were tried.
[1:20:10] there were attempts to
[1:20:13] implement these things.
[1:20:14] you know, while I was doing the
[1:20:21] work in the community and again
[1:20:22] can't say nothing about helen
[1:20:25] ross mad miss candice I've had
[1:20:26] opportunity just working
[1:20:29] alongside her the vrc meetings
[1:20:32] just being able to engage with
[1:20:33] her and her staff and they have
[1:20:33] made the commitment to you
[1:20:34] know, to show up to these
[1:20:36] things.
[1:20:37] but that doesn't take away the
[1:20:40] truth on and to me it's
[1:20:41] understanding that the
[1:20:47] president that we're setting
[1:20:48] when I look at the the agenda,
[1:20:51] the documents that came with
[1:20:52] this resolution and I look at
[1:21:12] the hundred and twenty one
[1:21:13] thousand dollar breakdown
[1:21:14] eighty six thousand is for
[1:21:15] salary benefits and taxes
[1:21:16] eighty six thousand is going to
[1:21:17] be going towards hiring an
[1:21:18] employee for helen rostami
[1:21:19] supplies twenty nine hundred
[1:21:20] travel conferences and meetings
[1:21:22] four telephone a thousand I can
[1:21:23] see including equipment rental
[1:21:23] maintenance software licenses,
[1:21:24] five thousand insurance
[1:21:25] professional general
[1:21:26] unemployment a thousand sixty
[1:21:29] one dollars and then you have
[1:21:30] an approved federal indirect
[1:21:33] cost of twenty eight point
[1:21:34] sixty five percent.
[1:21:35] apply it to the salaries and
[1:21:40] benefits that's over a hundred
[1:21:41] and ten thousand dollars
[1:21:42] is just going towards the
[1:21:44] person not the services that
[1:21:45] they're going to be running.
[1:21:48] the person who's funding this
[1:21:49] next year.
[1:21:52] right or voting today are we
[1:21:53] making a commitment to continue
[1:21:53] this position?
[1:21:57] what if it works right?
[1:22:00] is helen ross mcnab taking on
[1:22:00] the the accountability after
[1:22:04] the first year or will the city
[1:22:05] we obligated to fill this void
[1:22:08] we were creating another
[1:22:09] position for an organization
[1:22:11] that's highly funded already.
[1:22:15] it it makes sense.
[1:22:16] it's another band-aid.
[1:22:19] and so a year from now whether
[1:22:20] it works or doesn't work as a
[1:22:23] council we're going to have to
[1:22:24] make a decision.
[1:22:25] do we want to commit another
[1:22:25] hundred and twenty one dollars
[1:22:27] to keep this position field?
[1:22:31] it's not a smart investment.
[1:22:32] it doesn't take away the work
[1:22:33] that helen ross mcnab does but
[1:22:35] it doesn't make sense to make
[1:22:36] this investment at this time.
[1:22:39] thank you, vice mayor.
[1:22:42] if you get thank you I make a
[1:22:46] motion to approve because we
[1:22:47] aren't supposed to enter into
[1:22:48] debate on items until there's a
[1:22:50] motion on the floor.
[1:22:51] >> I'll make a motion to
[1:22:51] approve.
[1:22:53] is there a second second motion
[1:22:57] has been made and seconded.
[1:22:58] thanks man.
[1:22:58] thank you.
[1:23:00] I would just say that at
[1:23:05] understand your concerns I
[1:23:06] would just say that if the if
[1:23:09] the service is therapy then the
[1:23:17] therapy is the service so that
[1:23:18] would be my understanding
[1:23:20] of the rationale that ross
[1:23:21] mcnab would bring on a
[1:23:24] different staff member because
[1:23:28] they probably already have
[1:23:28] existing staff.
[1:23:31] I can't speak to exactly their
[1:23:32] application.
[1:23:35] I see it not from you but it
[1:23:36] would be a different therapist
[1:23:39] with a master's level social
[1:23:43] worker to do this work.
[1:23:47] so that is I understand that
[1:23:48] and I understand that you that
[1:23:51] that's the that's the cost if
[1:23:52] it's a people business to help
[1:23:55] people a therapist is the
[1:23:55] service.
[1:23:59] so I intend to support this
[1:24:00] council member parker and then
[1:24:03] debartolo in.
[1:24:04] thank you.
[1:24:10] um, previously we had funded
[1:24:11] mental health services provided
[1:24:14] by organizations in the
[1:24:17] targeted communities.
[1:24:22] um but it seems like we haven't
[1:24:25] invited those groups to apply
[1:24:29] for additional funding.
[1:24:33] how was this um uh grant
[1:24:37] agreement developed?
[1:24:38] they apply for an open grant
[1:24:42] process or miss if it's not
[1:24:46] it's not a grant it's an
[1:24:46] agreement.
[1:24:47] so miss middlebrook, could you
[1:24:49] speak to that please?
[1:24:50] yes.
[1:24:54] so for this particular contract
[1:24:55] for service for director
[1:24:57] services, mental health
[1:25:01] services as excuse me miss
[1:25:04] allen mentioned in her remarks
[1:25:05] , helen ross mcnab has been a
[1:25:09] partner with us in his work and
[1:25:12] has kind of walked through the
[1:25:13] the development of a plan and
[1:25:16] understanding the initiatives
[1:25:20] and has worked alongside
[1:25:21] existing partners in the space
[1:25:23] for quite some time.
[1:25:24] and so that was the determining
[1:25:27] factor that they were already
[1:25:28] in the space and existing and
[1:25:31] working well with partners in
[1:25:32] the space and had the capacity
[1:25:36] to manage the contract and
[1:25:36] provide the supports and
[1:25:39] services surrounding the
[1:25:40] individual that would be needed
[1:25:42] to effectively serve them our
[1:25:43] other some of our other
[1:25:43] providers.
[1:25:47] so council approved a little
[1:25:50] while ago a provider that was
[1:25:51] providing mental health
[1:25:51] services.
[1:25:52] but those services are specific
[1:25:55] to victims and their families
[1:25:56] and so this provides us a more
[1:26:02] expansive resource to provide
[1:26:03] directed mental health services
[1:26:06] both individual and kandice.
[1:26:07] I mentioned the cognitive
[1:26:10] behavioral therapy sessions for
[1:26:11] individuals who are
[1:26:14] participating in life coaching
[1:26:15] that we don't currently have
[1:26:17] the capacity for.
[1:26:18] >> well, one thing that stood
[1:26:22] out to me in this agreement
[1:26:25] is that the individual hired um
[1:26:26] must understand the culture
[1:26:32] of the targeted community and I
[1:26:33] don't believe that's enough
[1:26:36] honestly especially for
[1:26:37] cognitive behavioral therapy.
[1:26:44] um, not and I'm not saying I'm
[1:26:45] I'm an expert but just what was
[1:26:48] described to me aveng
[1:26:52] of visuals who are expert in
[1:26:56] same challenges in life will
[1:26:59] state it that way and to we're
[1:27:04] already talking about who who
[1:27:05] the target community is in
[1:27:08] these grants.
[1:27:09] we don't say it but we know who
[1:27:11] the targeted community is and
[1:27:16] now the fair he is working with
[1:27:23] individuals with a um negative
[1:27:24] outlook on life.
[1:27:28] how can we shift that to a more
[1:27:31] positive and productive I would
[1:27:32] tell you without being an
[1:27:35] expert in this um, you will
[1:27:38] have much more success with
[1:27:42] someone who is a part of the
[1:27:43] targeted community, not just
[1:27:47] someone who understands the
[1:27:47] culture of the targeted
[1:27:47] community.
[1:27:51] I'll let you speak.
[1:27:52] what would you like go ahead
[1:27:53] with your time then I can I
[1:27:53] don't want cut into your time.
[1:27:57] ok, um so that was one concern
[1:28:01] that I had because several
[1:28:02] years ago now uh there was a
[1:28:04] almost like pitch competition
[1:28:08] that was held by the city to
[1:28:09] bring forward community
[1:28:13] organizations who are offering
[1:28:13] mental health services to
[1:28:16] compete for funding from the
[1:28:17] city at present on their
[1:28:19] various services.
[1:28:20] and I don't know if all
[1:28:23] of those have continued
[1:28:24] especially without support but
[1:28:27] I do know some of them have
[1:28:31] continued and so we have those
[1:28:32] mental health services within
[1:28:35] the community and I imagine
[1:28:36] especially for a contract like
[1:28:40] this where we are fully paying
[1:28:44] for an additional staff member,
[1:28:44] many of these other
[1:28:48] organizations that are also
[1:28:51] engaged in mental health
[1:28:52] support that are already
[1:28:55] located in the targeted
[1:28:56] community, they don't have to
[1:28:59] understand the culture of their
[1:29:00] already in the community.
[1:29:03] those are the ones who should
[1:29:04] be getting these funds to
[1:29:07] provide these services in my
[1:29:10] council member of our living,
[1:29:14] mr robinson for his comments
[1:29:15] and also councilman grant, I
[1:29:18] think that community work done
[1:29:20] by people within the community
[1:29:22] is invaluable.
[1:29:23] it's irreplaceable.
[1:29:23] it's important.
[1:29:26] but I also think that therapy
[1:29:29] is very important changed my
[1:29:34] own life, saved my friend's
[1:29:34] life.
[1:29:38] it is it is health work, mental
[1:29:40] health work of a different
[1:29:41] sort.
[1:29:42] and I think the fact that we
[1:29:45] just had these grant stuff come
[1:29:45] before us which we're
[1:29:48] struggling with some process on
[1:29:49] for community groups and then
[1:29:50] had this for this type
[1:29:52] of master's level professional
[1:29:53] group demonstrates that it's
[1:29:57] not an either or but that we
[1:29:58] are trying to serve both ways
[1:30:01] and so I fully support having a
[1:30:04] professional therapist active
[1:30:05] in our community.
[1:30:07] >> thank you.
[1:30:08] thank you.
[1:30:11] council member honeycut and
[1:30:15] then grant, I want commissioner
[1:30:16] grant to understand and
[1:30:17] appreciate that I'm in full
[1:30:21] support of his efforts over the
[1:30:24] next year to uh, evaluate our
[1:30:24] grant process, evaluate the
[1:30:28] office of community safety and
[1:30:28] empowerment and how these funds
[1:30:31] are distributed in terms
[1:30:32] of violence interruption.
[1:30:35] I think you've started an
[1:30:36] important conversation and I'm
[1:30:39] totally on board and excited to
[1:30:40] be part of that over the next
[1:30:42] year and so that this time next
[1:30:43] year we hopefully have an
[1:30:46] alternative structure or
[1:30:47] something an alternative plan
[1:30:51] that that everyone can buy into
[1:30:52] and be on board with.
[1:30:55] I do think that similar to the
[1:30:56] last thing and to to councilman
[1:30:59] baldwin's point, you know,
[1:30:59] until there is an alternative
[1:31:03] in place, it feels like that
[1:31:04] you know, these processes were
[1:31:07] started months ago and these
[1:31:07] organizations are already
[1:31:10] working in the space and so
[1:31:14] supporting them tonight doesn't
[1:31:15] in my mind take away from the
[1:31:36] fact that the community the
[1:31:37] conversation that we have
[1:31:38] started because of you and that
[1:31:38] we are committed to.
[1:31:39] and so it's not an either or
[1:31:40] situation to me and and I'm
[1:31:41] appreciative of the
[1:31:41] conversation that's happening
[1:31:42] tonight and I look forward to
[1:31:43] how this is going to evolve so
[1:31:43] that next november when these
[1:31:44] grants are applied for and
[1:31:45] whatever process that takes it,
[1:31:45] it does look different and it
[1:31:46] is more transparent and it
[1:31:47] is part of a new process but
[1:31:48] that doesn't deter from the
[1:31:49] process that these people have
[1:31:50] gone through and the work
[1:31:52] they're doing currently.
[1:31:54] and so I don't think it's an
[1:31:54] either or situation and I've
[1:32:00] sort plan to vote that way.
[1:32:01] council member grant.
[1:32:02] yeah, I mean and I and I
[1:32:04] appreciate the feedback.
[1:32:08] I'm always open to just kind
[1:32:09] of want to address some some
[1:32:09] of the things that vice mayor
[1:32:12] said in terms of the spending
[1:32:15] and actually hiring this person
[1:32:15] .
[1:32:16] mental health definitely plays
[1:32:19] a role when you're working high
[1:32:22] risk individuals mental
[1:32:23] is definitely important being a
[1:32:27] military veteran, being a
[1:32:31] person who's been shot himself.
[1:32:31] >> right.
[1:32:34] I've gone through it and so to
[1:32:36] councilman parker's point to mr
[1:32:40] roberson's point, it's
[1:32:40] different.
[1:32:44] it's different and I'm I
[1:32:47] understand I've been in it.
[1:32:48] I've lived it.
[1:32:51] I understand this work and so
[1:32:55] you know, when you look at the
[1:32:56] one hundred and twenty one
[1:32:57] thousand there's not one
[1:32:58] hundred and twenty one thousand
[1:32:59] dollars worth of mental health
[1:33:00] services needed for these high
[1:33:02] risk individuals.
[1:33:04] there is and I'll go on record
[1:33:06] and say that because you
[1:33:07] already have organizations out
[1:33:10] here building the relationships
[1:33:11] with these high risk
[1:33:14] individuals and you have your
[1:33:15] east tennessee mental health
[1:33:15] right.
[1:33:18] you have therapists who you
[1:33:19] know in my previous profession
[1:33:20] I was able to build a
[1:33:23] relationship and say hey, can
[1:33:24] you sit down and work with this
[1:33:27] individual sixty seventy
[1:33:29] dollars a session write as best
[1:33:30] as an organization we had that
[1:33:31] type of service within our
[1:33:34] budget to create a whole nother
[1:33:35] position and to dish out one
[1:33:38] hundred twenty one thousand
[1:33:38] dollars in twelve months.
[1:33:41] what we're saying is is there
[1:33:42] ten thousand dollars a month
[1:33:45] worth of mental health services
[1:33:46] is going to be put out there?
[1:33:48] no there isn't.
[1:33:50] >> and so I just want to be
[1:33:52] mindful of how we spend right
[1:33:53] to councilman honeycut point.
[1:33:56] we're going to be right back
[1:33:57] here a year from now.
[1:34:00] ross mcnab is going to come
[1:34:01] back and say hey, this worked
[1:34:04] or didn't or whatever it may be
[1:34:05] and we can say we can face that
[1:34:08] battle when we get there.
[1:34:09] but what position are we
[1:34:12] putting them in?
[1:34:12] right?
[1:34:13] are we are we already
[1:34:14] committing to a yearly
[1:34:16] commitment of one hundred and
[1:34:17] twenty one thousand if this
[1:34:19] position works or is helen ross
[1:34:20] going to have to fit the bill
[1:34:23] to keep this going and again,
[1:34:24] band aid on a gun wound is what
[1:34:27] I feel like.
[1:34:28] I'll stand on that and I
[1:34:28] appreciate the open mind
[1:34:31] is moving forward and I hope we
[1:34:32] can apply that while we're
[1:34:35] making decisions up here and
[1:34:38] support comes with votes.
[1:34:39] right.
[1:34:40] I hope we all understand that.
[1:34:42] I appreciate everything that
[1:34:43] we're doing up here but support
[1:34:45] comes with votes and votes or
[1:34:46] what create the change that we
[1:34:47] need to move forward so we can
[1:34:50] have better process.
[1:34:50] >> thank you.
[1:34:51] thank you.
[1:34:54] council member parker than vice
[1:34:54] mayor fukin.
[1:34:57] thank you, mayor.
[1:34:59] I just had to respond to what
[1:35:01] was raised earlier because I
[1:35:05] asked about the process for um
[1:35:06] , developing this agreement
[1:35:07] because I wanted to highlight
[1:35:09] that this is not a grant.
[1:35:10] right.
[1:35:13] so we have had concerns about
[1:35:17] grants that came before us and
[1:35:19] and uh have essentially decided
[1:35:22] well we'll wait for the next
[1:35:26] grant cycle to address these or
[1:35:27] or make sure these issues are
[1:35:27] addressed.
[1:35:29] this is an agreement that the
[1:35:32] city reached out one on one
[1:35:34] with an entity and decided you
[1:35:35] are the one I want to provide
[1:35:37] this service in these
[1:35:41] situations we can provide a lot
[1:35:41] more scrutiny in my opinion.
[1:35:44] um, because it's not a whole
[1:35:48] six month process that has to
[1:35:48] be redone.
[1:35:53] but we can ask questions about
[1:35:53] other organizations that might
[1:35:56] have been considered.
[1:35:57] I don't think that council
[1:36:00] member artillerymen wanted in
[1:36:01] this way but it kind of sounded
[1:36:04] like, um, there was some
[1:36:08] comfort with mcnabb receiving
[1:36:09] these services because it would
[1:36:12] be professional mental health
[1:36:12] services.
[1:36:13] and I just wanted to highlight
[1:36:15] that we have these
[1:36:15] professionals working at
[1:36:18] non-profits within the
[1:36:18] community.
[1:36:25] um, um at the shaw foundation
[1:36:27] which has a location on mlk
[1:36:30] they're working with dr bush
[1:36:34] who provides mental health
[1:36:35] services there through their
[1:36:38] pathways um mental health
[1:36:41] clinic I think it is and it's
[1:36:42] not just for you but for the
[1:36:42] whole family.
[1:36:45] so they provide those services
[1:36:45] for the whole family.
[1:36:49] I don't know if they have
[1:36:49] capacity to bring on a new
[1:36:53] position if if asked but it
[1:36:56] certainly would ask because
[1:36:57] again they're located in the
[1:36:57] community.
[1:36:58] they're building those
[1:37:01] relationships already with
[1:37:04] individuals in the community
[1:37:05] and they aren't getting the
[1:37:08] millions upon millions that
[1:37:09] other entities are having and
[1:37:10] this would allow us to help
[1:37:11] grow these services.
[1:37:15] um outside of the much needed
[1:37:19] services provided by mcnabb.
[1:37:20] so that's another reason why
[1:37:26] I'm pushing, um for for us to,
[1:37:27] uh, partner with those entities
[1:37:30] within our community who have
[1:37:35] been a part of our grant making
[1:37:35] programs for years.
[1:37:38] they're not new organizations.
[1:37:39] sure.
[1:37:41] foundations well respected long
[1:37:43] , long been in the community.
[1:37:46] they've been a part of these
[1:37:47] various programs that the city
[1:37:47] has started.
[1:37:51] um, so we have the the ability
[1:37:54] to bring services into our
[1:37:58] community and have individuals
[1:37:59] from the community provide the
[1:38:02] services to help transition
[1:38:06] individuals out out of whatever
[1:38:07] crisis or whatever state that
[1:38:07] they're in.
[1:38:11] >> um, what else did I want to
[1:38:14] highlight?
[1:38:18] um um but yeah no I just wanted
[1:38:22] to raise those those two points
[1:38:23] that this isn't a grant so you
[1:38:25] know not not a six month
[1:38:26] process will be messing up and
[1:38:29] that we do have these
[1:38:30] professionals in our community
[1:38:33] uh but we need more and these
[1:38:37] small nonprofits who are doing
[1:38:38] all they can to provide these
[1:38:40] services need that support to
[1:38:44] grow their services so ok thing
[1:38:49] no further lights on all those
[1:38:50] in favor please say I and your
[1:38:55] post ok six three motion
[1:39:05] carries ok uh next item please
[1:39:05] .
[1:39:06] >> twelve hours resolution
[1:39:09] authorizing the mayor to
[1:39:10] execute any more documents
[1:39:10] necessary to accept proposals
[1:39:13] to provide access liability
[1:39:14] insurance coverage vehicle and
[1:39:16] equipment damage insurance
[1:39:17] coverage and inland marine
[1:39:20] insurance coverage for mobile
[1:39:21] equipment all as part of the
[1:39:25] city's and k transmen inc. Self
[1:39:29] insurance liability program for
[1:39:29] an estimated annual premium
[1:39:30] of seven hundred seventy two
[1:39:35] thousand one ninety two dollars
[1:39:36] to make improvements asking
[1:39:36] that any questions or
[1:39:39] discussions seeing none all
[1:39:40] those in favor please say I
[1:39:43] opposed the motion 12
[1:39:47] resolution authorizing the
[1:39:48] mayor to amend the contract
[1:39:48] with the design and
[1:39:51] construction services inc. For
[1:39:52] the knoxville urban wilderness
[1:39:52] gateway park.
[1:39:55] james pavilion project
[1:39:56] increasing the contract amount
[1:39:58] by nineteen thousand eight
[1:39:59] twenty one dollars 13 cents for
[1:40:02] a new total contract amounts
[1:40:03] not to exceed four million
[1:40:04] seven hundred seventy nine
[1:40:06] thousand twenty two dollars
[1:40:10] sixty seven cents to three
[1:40:11] motion major improvements I and
[1:40:11] seconded any questions are
[1:40:15] discussion seeing that all
[1:40:16] those in favor please say I
[1:40:19] indya post motion case twelve
[1:40:21] case resolution provides the
[1:40:22] mayor to execute an agreement
[1:40:26] with alta planning design inc.
[1:40:26] to provide professional
[1:40:30] consulting services for the
[1:40:31] twenty twenty six vision zero
[1:40:33] action plan update in an amount
[1:40:34] not to exceed one hundred fifty
[1:40:34] eight thousand five hundred
[1:40:37] ninety six dollars motion to
[1:40:38] improve and seconded any
[1:40:42] questions or discussion seeing
[1:40:43] none all those in favor please
[1:40:48] say I any oppose motion carries
[1:40:49] twelve ls the resolution
[1:40:50] authorizing the mayor to
[1:40:53] execute an agreement with canon
[1:40:54] and canon and cannot and canon
[1:40:56] llc to provide professional
[1:40:57] design services for the
[1:41:00] tazewell park and beverley road
[1:41:00] intersection improvements
[1:41:01] project in an amount not to
[1:41:04] exceed one hundred fifty three
[1:41:05] thousand two hundred forty
[1:41:08] dollars motion to prove motion
[1:41:08] may to approve and seconded.
[1:41:12] we have one person signed up to
[1:41:12] speak on this item in
[1:41:15] opposition mary and garner.
[1:41:17] if you would come to the podium
[1:41:17] state your name and address for
[1:41:20] the record you'll have up to
[1:41:20] three minutes to address
[1:41:20] council.
[1:41:23] yes, thank you.
[1:41:24] councilman marion garner down
[1:41:27] to five cherokee boulevard.
[1:41:28] obviously I am not against
[1:41:31] safety and state tazewell park
[1:41:35] is a state road and beverley
[1:41:57] road is a city road safety on
[1:41:58] any road city, county, state or
[1:41:59] federal is what we all want.
[1:42:00] however I'm opposed to approve
[1:42:00] this resolution tonight as I
[1:42:02] have spoken with the director
[1:42:03] of t dot and the region that
[1:42:04] includes notts county and she
[1:42:04] has not been approached about
[1:42:06] the state helping with this
[1:42:06] project.
[1:42:07] I oppose one hundred and fifty
[1:42:07] eight thousand one hundred
[1:42:11] fifty three thousand being
[1:42:15] spent for a study that has
[1:42:16] until december 31st
[1:42:19] twenty seventeen twenty twenty
[1:42:22] seven to be completed when this
[1:42:23] obviously has been a problem
[1:42:26] according to everybody I've
[1:42:27] spoken with including matthew
[1:42:30] and nathan for over
[1:42:31] twenty years, I really don't
[1:42:33] see that urgency and having
[1:42:37] this study started when state
[1:42:42] county, city feds sit down
[1:42:52] together and go over this at
[1:42:53] and as far this isn't part
[1:42:54] of this but as far as the grant
[1:42:58] money goes and all these other
[1:42:58] projects germane to the item
[1:42:59] before you're supposed to sign
[1:43:01] up you only speak to the item
[1:43:01] on the agenda.
[1:43:02] you can speak to that at public
[1:43:03] forum.
[1:43:05] I saw you signed at that time.
[1:43:06] well, thank you, mayor.
[1:43:06] you're welcome.
[1:43:09] ok, that concludes a public
[1:43:09] forum on this.
[1:43:10] I mean does concludes the
[1:43:11] people who signed up to speak
[1:43:16] on this item um, there's a
[1:43:16] motion on the floor council
[1:43:20] member parker, can we get a
[1:43:22] quick overview of this project
[1:43:23] , mr. Claybon?
[1:43:23] sure.
[1:43:27] I'd be happy to talk to that
[1:43:28] tom claiborne's director.
[1:43:30] so this project it's a contract
[1:43:35] for a design for a traffic
[1:43:36] signal at tesla park beverley
[1:43:39] road that intersection the city
[1:43:43] when we receive requests for
[1:43:46] new traffic signals we have a
[1:43:47] traffic signal index that we
[1:43:48] look at.
[1:43:50] so we've got to keep man not
[1:43:53] every intersection meets the
[1:43:54] criteria for a traffic signal
[1:43:55] so it's got to meet certain
[1:43:58] criteria or standards out there
[1:43:59] that that's got to meet.
[1:44:01] but if you just meet those we
[1:44:02] annazette for crash data and
[1:44:06] for traffic volumes and then we
[1:44:09] have a system in place where we
[1:44:10] prioritize those based on those
[1:44:13] the lowest currently has thirty
[1:44:13] three different signalized
[1:44:16] intersections on it.
[1:44:17] this intersections the number
[1:44:20] five on that list it is one
[1:44:21] of the higher crash rates over
[1:44:24] the last three years fifteen
[1:44:25] thousand eighty one crashes
[1:44:27] that could be prevented our
[1:44:28] traffic signal.
[1:44:29] so what we're seeing is with
[1:44:32] the volume on track on tazewell
[1:44:32] there's not a lot
[1:44:33] of opportunity for gaps coming
[1:44:33] off the road.
[1:44:36] so what this signal will do
[1:44:39] is allow for gaps for those
[1:44:40] folks coming out probably it
[1:44:43] will also help with brackley
[1:44:44] which is also near there as
[1:44:47] well with gaps so and could you
[1:44:50] speak to the amount of time
[1:44:51] given for the study to be
[1:44:54] carried out so the the the
[1:44:58] design itself we're looking at
[1:44:59] what's the best way to
[1:45:02] implement the project?
[1:45:03] so the immediate need is the
[1:45:06] traffic signal.
[1:45:07] we've done some preliminary
[1:45:11] analysis and long term there
[1:45:12] needs to be a turn lanes on
[1:45:14] beverley and tazewell much
[1:45:15] bigger project that we don't
[1:45:16] have funding for for
[1:45:19] construction but we feel like
[1:45:20] it's really more of a vision
[1:45:23] zero quick build initiative if
[1:45:24] we can get a signal and now we
[1:45:26] can prevent some of these
[1:45:27] accidents long term.
[1:45:30] we've got a corridor study on
[1:45:31] central park that we're going
[1:45:32] to be working with tpo on.
[1:45:35] we will be talking to tehran
[1:45:35] about those opportunities and
[1:45:38] long term that intersection
[1:45:39] will need turn lanes at some
[1:45:39] point.
[1:45:43] so the signal we're putting in
[1:45:44] we're going to try to do that
[1:45:45] such a way is we don't have to
[1:45:46] rip it out and rebuild it.
[1:45:49] but the signal and a location
[1:45:50] where the road is wide and it's
[1:45:51] important to future those polls
[1:45:54] are in good condition to where
[1:45:55] we don't have to remove them so
[1:45:58] but for the sake just the
[1:45:59] signal that you think it'll
[1:46:00] take a year and a half for
[1:46:02] planning it.
[1:46:03] well, that includes and we
[1:46:06] don't know right now there's a
[1:46:06] lot of utilities we've got to
[1:46:07] work with.
[1:46:10] there could be some rodway if
[1:46:11] we have to set the poles wider
[1:46:11] than the existing roadways will
[1:46:14] be acquiring possibly.
[1:46:14] right.
[1:46:15] we don't know yet.
[1:46:16] we're going to get into that.
[1:46:17] but this timing allows for that
[1:46:18] whole process.
[1:46:21] >> ok, thank council member
[1:46:25] thomas.
[1:46:26] yes, I'm aware of problems in
[1:46:29] that then intersection for
[1:46:30] quite a long time and so I
[1:46:33] would defer to director labor's
[1:46:34] expertize on it and I know that
[1:46:38] some improvements been needed.
[1:46:39] so I see this is just a step in
[1:46:39] that direction.
[1:46:44] thank you.
[1:46:45] any further comments or
[1:46:45] questions seeing none of those
[1:46:48] in favor please I and he
[1:46:51] opposed motion carries twelve
[1:46:55] erm as the resolution
[1:46:56] authorizing the mayor to
[1:46:57] approve and adopt the city
[1:46:57] of knoxville's parks and
[1:46:59] recreation master plan as
[1:47:00] prepared by perez planning and
[1:47:06] design ok council members we
[1:47:07] have several people signed up
[1:47:10] to speak on this item just
[1:47:11] we'll start with those signed
[1:47:15] up to speak in favor first as
[1:47:19] jean fits you mr you can come
[1:47:19] to the podium said your name
[1:47:20] and address for the record and
[1:47:23] you'll have up to three minutes
[1:47:26] to address council.
[1:47:27] my name jean fitzhugh.
[1:47:29] I live at two to one each point
[1:47:29] .
[1:47:30] I'm really looking forward to
[1:47:31] walking home tonight over our
[1:47:33] beautiful pedestrian bridge.
[1:47:34] it's almost my bedtime.
[1:47:38] I'm a retired professor at the
[1:47:41] university of tennessee in
[1:47:42] kinesiology, recreation and
[1:47:45] sport studies and over the past
[1:47:46] twenty five years a team
[1:47:49] of faculty and students we've
[1:47:50] been engaged within the park
[1:47:54] system to study how people how
[1:47:56] physically active or people at
[1:48:01] our parks and on our greenway's
[1:48:01] .
[1:48:02] over that time we've learned
[1:48:02] about who's using the
[1:48:05] greenway's the parks, how are
[1:48:06] they using it, why are they
[1:48:08] using it?
[1:48:12] basically if you name the park
[1:48:13] one of your local parks, we
[1:48:14] could go in and tell you
[1:48:17] exactly what type of people are
[1:48:21] attracted to it and possibly
[1:48:22] what could be done to improve
[1:48:25] it and make more attractive
[1:48:26] along that line.
[1:48:31] we've we've transitioned a
[1:48:32] little bit to where we're
[1:48:34] seeing interventions being
[1:48:35] developed in our parks.
[1:48:36] >> but the research that we've
[1:48:39] done you is really limited
[1:48:39] because we're focusing strictly
[1:48:42] on physical activity.
[1:48:44] we're not able to tell the
[1:48:47] finest with parks and
[1:48:49] recreation what they need to do
[1:48:51] , how they need to do it in
[1:48:52] order to improve the parks and
[1:48:54] that's where this master plan
[1:48:54] comes into play.
[1:48:58] they've taken methodologies
[1:49:02] that are based and I say really
[1:49:06] good science and then gold
[1:49:06] standards on how to approach to
[1:49:10] learn about how we in the city
[1:49:11] of knoxville can improve our
[1:49:14] park system, what we need to
[1:49:15] improve and the process that we
[1:49:18] need to follow to improve it.
[1:49:19] and from an academic
[1:49:21] perspective as a scholar who
[1:49:22] studied all of the
[1:49:25] methodologies related to
[1:49:26] physical activity and parks and
[1:49:30] recreation in greenways, I
[1:49:31] think they've done a great job.
[1:49:33] I think the master plan you
[1:49:34] have in your hands right now I
[1:49:37] want to assure you it's it's a
[1:49:41] case study on how to go about
[1:49:45] creating a master plan, a long
[1:49:46] range plan for communities
[1:49:50] metropolitan areas to improve
[1:49:51] these fine amenities that we
[1:49:53] have to that really increase
[1:49:57] our quality of life and that's
[1:49:57] what it's all about right now.
[1:50:01] and as an epidemiologic is it's
[1:50:02] all about disease prevention
[1:50:03] too for me because the more
[1:50:05] people get to the parks, the
[1:50:09] more people are going to be
[1:50:10] living longer, increasing their
[1:50:12] quality of life.
[1:50:13] so I really do ask you to
[1:50:16] consider this as a really good
[1:50:17] case study.
[1:50:18] thank you.
[1:50:18] thank you.
[1:50:21] next person signed up to speak
[1:50:22] in favor of this item is jack
[1:50:24] coaker.
[1:50:25] mr coker, if you could come to
[1:50:28] the podium, set your name and
[1:50:29] address for the record and
[1:50:29] you'll have up to three minutes
[1:50:38] to address council.
[1:50:38] hi good evening mayor and
[1:50:39] members of council.
[1:50:41] my name is jack coker and I
[1:50:42] live at twenty four seven coker
[1:50:42] avenue.
[1:50:45] I also have the honor
[1:50:46] of serving as president of the
[1:50:46] bell morris neighborhood
[1:50:49] through that role I became very
[1:50:49] familiar with the parks and
[1:50:52] recreation master plan update
[1:50:53] and its community engagement
[1:50:54] process when this update was
[1:50:57] first announced there was a
[1:50:58] great deal of excitement in our
[1:50:58] neighborhood for decades
[1:51:01] residents talked about the
[1:51:02] potential for a greenway in
[1:51:02] park along the cube owned
[1:51:05] parcels bisect but morse that
[1:51:09] opportunity was obvious to
[1:51:09] those who live there but it
[1:51:11] never quite made its way into
[1:51:12] the broader city conversation
[1:51:13] during the public engagement
[1:51:16] period our neighbors organized
[1:51:17] many of us placed pins along
[1:51:18] that corridor on the
[1:51:20] interactive map provided by
[1:51:20] parks and recreation.
[1:51:23] we attended public meetings and
[1:51:24] even hosted a walk through
[1:51:25] of the corridor so staff could
[1:51:28] see the opportunity firsthand.
[1:51:28] several members of the parks
[1:51:29] and recreation team attended
[1:51:32] that visit.
[1:51:33] throughout this process we felt
[1:51:35] very hurt when the department
[1:51:36] asked for public input our
[1:51:36] neighborhood gave it and the
[1:51:39] trail we envisioned is now
[1:51:40] included in the draft plan
[1:51:40] before you tonight.
[1:51:43] that is exactly how public
[1:51:44] engagement is supposed to work
[1:51:44] because of the depth
[1:51:47] of outreach and the thoughtful
[1:51:48] work that has gone into the
[1:51:48] plan.
[1:51:51] I encourage you to adopt it.
[1:51:52] over the past year the
[1:51:52] knoxville community has
[1:51:55] provided meaningful input and
[1:51:55] the parks and recreation
[1:51:56] department have translated that
[1:51:58] engagement into a strong
[1:51:59] roadmap for the decades ahead.
[1:52:00] thank you for your time.
[1:52:21] thank next person sign up to
[1:52:22] speak in favor of item twelve m
[1:52:23] is carol evans you can state
[1:52:25] your name and address for the
[1:52:26] record and you'll have up to
[1:52:27] three minutes very short.
[1:52:28] carol evans thirty five oh five
[1:52:29] kester would drive three seven
[1:52:29] nine one eight.
[1:52:30] um I'd like to start by really
[1:52:31] applauding you for investing in
[1:52:32] in the city's master plan
[1:52:32] related to parks and
[1:52:33] recreation.
[1:52:33] as jean and evans mentioned,
[1:52:35] the process is very thorough
[1:52:36] and very well executed and I
[1:52:39] think the city staff and the
[1:52:39] consultants really went were
[1:52:40] very, very diligent and getting
[1:52:43] community input and I think it
[1:52:44] reflects that in the plan.
[1:52:47] I think the plan is important
[1:52:48] because it really helps all
[1:52:51] of us understand the wishes and
[1:52:52] priorities for those who live
[1:52:54] in knoxville around parks and
[1:52:54] outdoors.
[1:52:55] a plan like this really brings
[1:52:58] us together the public sector,
[1:53:01] the private sector and the
[1:53:02] nonprofit sector so that we can
[1:53:05] all maximize our resources and
[1:53:06] collectively focus on the
[1:53:07] projects that the community has
[1:53:10] told us that they want from
[1:53:11] legacy parks perspective I'm
[1:53:14] especially pleased to see that
[1:53:15] a very high value of those
[1:53:18] community input sessions was
[1:53:19] placed on conservation of our
[1:53:21] open space and the desire for
[1:53:22] more natural trails and outdoor
[1:53:25] programs.
[1:53:25] knoxville is absolutely blessed
[1:53:29] as you know with the gift
[1:53:29] of geography.
[1:53:30] we have a river running through
[1:53:33] the heart of our city forested
[1:53:34] ridges, rolling valleys and
[1:53:37] spectacular views we have with
[1:53:38] other communities envy.
[1:53:41] we have a vibrant downtown.
[1:53:42] we have strong neighborhoods, a
[1:53:45] robust business environment and
[1:53:46] you can go for a paddle in the
[1:53:48] middle of the day or do a ten
[1:53:50] mile hike out of the back
[1:53:52] of your your own outdoors.
[1:53:56] so this plan really offers the
[1:53:57] path forward on how we can work
[1:54:00] together to expand and protect
[1:54:01] all of the great things that
[1:54:03] are about knoxville including
[1:54:04] our great parks and our
[1:54:04] outdoors.
[1:54:06] I thank you again for
[1:54:07] commissioning this plan and I
[1:54:11] hope you'll support it.
[1:54:11] thank you.
[1:54:14] we have two people signed up to
[1:54:15] speak in opposition to item
[1:54:16] twelve and we'll start with
[1:54:18] vivian qype misshaped if you
[1:54:19] could come to the podium, state
[1:54:20] your name and address for the
[1:54:22] record you'll have up to three
[1:54:33] minutes to address council
[1:54:34] vivian qype thirty six fifteen
[1:54:37] mlk knoxville thirty seven nine
[1:54:44] one four ring ring ring ring
[1:54:45] ring ring.
[1:54:45] hello.
[1:54:48] hey how you doing?
[1:54:48] I'm good.
[1:54:49] what's up?
[1:54:50] I'm just calling to
[1:54:52] congratulate you.
[1:54:53] congratulate me for what?
[1:54:56] you know for getting appointed
[1:54:57] to the new holiway park
[1:55:00] advisory group who homi nobody
[1:55:00] call me.
[1:55:01] what do you mean are you
[1:55:04] telling me for such an
[1:55:05] important group you did not get
[1:55:06] a personal phone call asking
[1:55:07] you to serve?
[1:55:08] no I did not.
[1:55:11] this is news to me.
[1:55:11] wow.
[1:55:12] maybe you need to check your
[1:55:15] email maybe isn't in spam.
[1:55:19] >> listen I'm glad you're on
[1:55:20] the cag no one from the
[1:55:21] community or those who fought
[1:55:23] for that part were asked to
[1:55:24] serve seriously.
[1:55:27] >> oh yeah seriously.
[1:55:27] listen up.
[1:55:31] they got that big mass park
[1:55:32] plan coming up a city council
[1:55:35] meeting but like where is sure
[1:55:38] how we park in that mix seems
[1:55:39] like a big rush to push a plan
[1:55:42] through that's going to last
[1:55:42] ten years.
[1:55:42] true.
[1:55:43] true.
[1:55:46] they should definitely delay
[1:55:47] and make sure all the people
[1:55:47] are heard.
[1:55:48] yeah, sure.
[1:55:51] how report needs to be a part
[1:55:54] of that master plan.
[1:55:55] look, I just wanted to call and
[1:55:57] say congratulations.
[1:55:58] some of those on that list
[1:55:59] of seventeen were for sale in
[1:56:01] the park.
[1:56:02] I do not understand how they
[1:56:05] were selected to serve on a
[1:56:05] visionary buuck.
[1:56:08] yeah, I can see why the
[1:56:09] community is upset and
[1:56:13] concerned especially after that
[1:56:13] first list.
[1:56:14] look, I just want to say
[1:56:17] congratulations.
[1:56:21] I'm gonna hold you up but best
[1:56:25] believe we will be at the
[1:56:26] meeting on the 24th and every
[1:56:26] single meeting that's held
[1:56:28] there after kind of like the
[1:56:29] word says, you know, watchman
[1:56:32] on the wall as you guys talk.
[1:56:36] >> remember we need to be part
[1:56:37] of that master plan.
[1:56:40] the part belongs to the people
[1:56:41] of knoxville and knox county
[1:56:44] and the people want open
[1:56:45] spaces, a public park and they
[1:56:47] want those padlocks out the
[1:56:48] gate.
[1:56:48] ok, ok.
[1:56:51] I hear you.
[1:56:52] I'll remember the people.
[1:56:52] thanks.
[1:56:54] I'll see the twenty fourth
[1:57:02] piece at ok next person to
[1:57:03] speak in opposition to item
[1:57:16] twelve am is kent mineau mr
[1:57:17] monroe if you could state your
[1:57:21] name address the record you'll
[1:57:21] have up to three minutes to
[1:57:22] address council.
[1:57:22] yes thank you.
[1:57:25] I'm kettmann I live at three
[1:57:25] one one west glenwood avenue.
[1:57:28] good evening mayor council
[1:57:29] members first of all I want to
[1:57:32] say everything people said in
[1:57:33] favor of the master plan it and
[1:57:36] the quality people who worked
[1:57:37] on it I completely agree with
[1:57:40] speaking in opposition to
[1:57:41] approving it despite the fact
[1:57:41] there's a lot of great stuff in
[1:57:42] it.
[1:57:44] the parts about tree canopy are
[1:57:45] fantastic but then again it
[1:57:48] proposes putting astroturf on
[1:57:48] more acreage.
[1:57:52] how can an administration
[1:57:52] committed to environmental
[1:57:53] goals put toxic heat absorbing
[1:57:55] plastic on fields where
[1:57:56] children play?
[1:58:00] but the main reason for my
[1:58:00] objection is its length.
[1:58:03] it's too long for hardworking
[1:58:04] city council members to have
[1:58:05] command of all it says in time
[1:58:07] for an informed vote.
[1:58:08] but there's an additional
[1:58:11] question about this practice
[1:58:12] putting a big pile of paper in
[1:58:13] front of an elected official
[1:58:15] and then saying vote on it
[1:58:16] quick or you're not doing your
[1:58:16] job.
[1:58:19] it goes back to our budget
[1:58:20] audit of last year and I
[1:58:20] appreciate the remarks.
[1:58:22] council members have made about
[1:58:23] that.
[1:58:23] the auditor remarked that the
[1:58:26] deficiencies they uncovered
[1:58:27] quote hurt public trust and
[1:58:30] relationship with partners.
[1:58:31] auditor jennifer mcmahon met
[1:58:35] mentana said she felt it was
[1:58:38] pervasive quotes from a report.
[1:58:39] now I know there's a lot
[1:58:40] of distrust for government
[1:58:40] right now.
[1:58:43] all over our country but we do
[1:58:45] well not to get used to it.
[1:58:46] according to the world
[1:58:47] happiness report which I always
[1:58:49] check out when it's published
[1:58:50] every few years, trust in
[1:58:51] government is one of the most
[1:58:53] crucial attributes of social
[1:58:54] well-being when people don't
[1:58:54] trust their government, the
[1:58:57] results show an increase in
[1:58:58] crime, mental health issues,
[1:59:01] even physical diseases.
[1:59:02] the deficiencies cited by the
[1:59:03] audit auditing committee were
[1:59:05] well publicized.
[1:59:06] now I know the city has
[1:59:09] responded to city finance
[1:59:10] department has been meeting
[1:59:10] with city's audit committee
[1:59:13] about corrective actions and
[1:59:13] that's great.
[1:59:15] but you're the people we see
[1:59:17] the city you city council
[1:59:18] members, many of you endorsed
[1:59:20] by my organization need to make
[1:59:21] your votes with your with our
[1:59:24] happiness and our trust
[1:59:28] uppermost in your minds to back
[1:59:29] to the master plan.
[1:59:30] I'm not saying it totally or
[1:59:32] anything but this habit of not
[1:59:33] giving this council adequate
[1:59:34] time to check out all the
[1:59:36] details and and expecting them
[1:59:37] to make a quick vote while
[1:59:39] pointing out a bunch
[1:59:40] of features they're likely to
[1:59:40] approve of.
[1:59:43] that's part of the pervasive
[1:59:43] problem.
[1:59:44] the auditors we're talking
[1:59:45] about simon williams from my
[1:59:48] daughter's journey put it right
[1:59:48] what many community based
[1:59:51] nonprofits are experiencing
[1:59:52] reflects a broader systemic
[1:59:55] issue in how minority that
[1:59:56] organizations are resourced
[1:59:57] across the regions their
[1:59:59] organizations often receive the
[2:00:00] bare minimum in funding while
[2:00:03] being asked to carry
[2:00:04] disproportionate administrative
[2:00:07] and reporting burden.
[2:00:08] give it 60 days.
[2:00:09] this will give council members
[2:00:12] a chance to comb through it for
[2:00:12] any potential problems and then
[2:00:14] discuss those things with their
[2:00:15] constituents.
[2:00:16] don't wait for the city's
[2:00:16] department heads to come back
[2:00:19] on april 2013 and report on the
[2:00:19] new processes.
[2:00:23] do the right thing now get the
[2:00:23] budget and overstuff oversight
[2:00:27] stuff right and you take a big
[2:00:27] step forward.
[2:00:28] your time is up.
[2:00:30] thank you so much.
[2:00:31] >> thank you.
[2:00:33] thank you council members.
[2:00:38] I just wanted to first thank
[2:00:39] all the people who participated
[2:00:42] in this almost year long
[2:00:42] process.
[2:00:43] we've had a lot of meetings
[2:00:46] many of you were part of that.
[2:00:47] we've had meetings in all parts
[2:00:49] of town and all different types
[2:00:50] of venues.
[2:00:51] people could participate and
[2:00:53] give input and ideas
[2:00:54] electronically in person by
[2:00:56] email.
[2:00:58] I want to give a special note
[2:00:58] of gratitude to cheryl olian,
[2:01:01] aaron browning, our parks
[2:01:02] director and deputy director.
[2:01:05] they've done an excellent job
[2:01:05] leading this effort.
[2:01:06] they are both here to answer
[2:01:08] any questions you may have.
[2:01:09] also our consultant carlos
[2:01:09] perez is here.
[2:01:12] I believe he's had an
[2:01:13] opportunity to meet with
[2:01:16] council members and I just want
[2:01:17] to say that we needed this
[2:01:20] updated master plan for a bunch
[2:01:21] of reasons.
[2:01:22] first, the last one we adopted
[2:01:25] in the city is two thousand
[2:01:25] eight.
[2:01:25] that's almost twenty years old.
[2:01:28] our needs have evolved and we
[2:01:29] wanted to touch base with our
[2:01:32] community.
[2:01:33] what do they what's working
[2:01:33] well for our parks?
[2:01:36] what needs improvement and more
[2:01:37] importantly with all the things
[2:01:39] that we want to do, how do we
[2:01:39] prioritize those?
[2:01:40] so that was an important thing
[2:01:41] to update it since it hadn't
[2:01:43] been done since 2008.
[2:01:45] the second reason this is time
[2:01:48] sensitive we need to have an
[2:01:49] updated master plan to be
[2:01:52] eligible for certain grants
[2:01:52] including some of which are due
[2:01:55] april 1st those community
[2:01:56] meetings for the holstrom of a
[2:01:59] park and ned mcwherter park to
[2:02:00] make us eligible for those
[2:02:03] grants are happening later this
[2:02:07] week and first last and and
[2:02:08] most important it's a framework
[2:02:11] for the future of our parks.
[2:02:12] it's not a plan.
[2:02:13] there's no single park plan in
[2:02:14] there.
[2:02:15] it's consistent with the need
[2:02:18] to see it as a whole holistic
[2:02:19] approach and we are also moving
[2:02:22] forward with a robust very,
[2:02:23] very well supported by staff
[2:02:44] and others vision to meet a set
[2:02:45] of meetings that start next
[2:02:46] week for the holiway park
[2:02:47] future next steps.
[2:02:47] so these are not mutually
[2:02:48] exclusive.
[2:02:49] we can do both and and I urge
[2:02:49] you to support us tonight.
[2:02:50] I think council member grant
[2:02:51] was first on we we do need a
[2:02:52] motion to have a debate motion
[2:02:54] made to prove has been made to
[2:02:55] approve and seconded council
[2:02:57] member grant?
[2:02:59] >> yes, I have actually I got a
[2:03:00] couple of questions for our
[2:03:01] parks and rec director mrs
[2:03:01] cheryl.
[2:03:15] she doesn't mind coming up for
[2:03:15] good evening.
[2:03:20] >> thank for taking the time to
[2:03:20] be here.
[2:03:21] I just have a couple
[2:03:23] of questions.
[2:03:24] first I definitely want to say
[2:03:25] thank you.
[2:03:26] I notice has been somewhat of a
[2:03:27] robust process.
[2:03:31] there's been a lot going on
[2:03:32] throughout the city and so you
[2:03:34] know, I do want to give credit
[2:03:35] to you and your department one
[2:03:39] of the things I would like to
[2:03:40] ask because I know there was
[2:03:42] mention of a deadline can you
[2:03:44] can you go a little bit more in
[2:03:47] detail in terms of what that
[2:03:50] deadline is and what exactly
[2:03:51] we're having to do as a council
[2:03:52] body here tonight?
[2:03:55] so you so you can move forward
[2:03:55] with that application.
[2:03:58] good afternoon.
[2:03:59] cheryl lee, director of parks
[2:03:59] and recreation.
[2:04:02] thank you for that question.
[2:04:03] the deadline really is one
[2:04:04] of the things that happens the
[2:04:07] state is obligated us to do a
[2:04:10] master plan and to do so we
[2:04:11] have to have public input and
[2:04:13] so we are doing that public
[2:04:14] input.
[2:04:15] the biggest thing is we have to
[2:04:17] also have it authorized and
[2:04:18] approved legislatively by the
[2:04:22] governing body to basically
[2:04:22] have a qualified master plan
[2:04:25] of any kind.
[2:04:26] and so the deadline really was
[2:04:30] we've been working on this for
[2:04:31] a year and it's time for the
[2:04:33] approval of it.
[2:04:34] I think the mayor talked about
[2:04:36] us trying to apply for a couple
[2:04:37] of grants.
[2:04:38] that is one of the deadlines
[2:04:41] but the biggest thing is this
[2:04:42] plan has been out for about a
[2:04:44] year for about a year.
[2:04:45] it's been out for public
[2:04:48] comment since january so that
[2:04:49] the basically the meets of this
[2:04:52] of this plan has already been
[2:04:53] out for more than 30 days.
[2:04:57] so there's been that
[2:04:57] opportunity for any and
[2:04:58] everyone to review that to
[2:05:00] review the document.
[2:05:04] thank you.
[2:05:08] council member debartolo oh,
[2:05:09] I'm sorry that were you I
[2:05:12] thought you were done.
[2:05:12] we don't know.
[2:05:15] ok, so I know that's fine.
[2:05:16] just wanted to speak to a
[2:05:19] couple of things because I want
[2:05:22] us to take the time moving
[2:05:23] forward and consider the optics
[2:05:27] of things right when you have a
[2:05:30] drawn out process like this and
[2:05:31] two weeks before the deadline
[2:05:35] it's kind put in front of us.
[2:05:36] it's almost kind of like we
[2:05:38] have no choice but to move
[2:05:39] forward.
[2:05:40] right, because we want to be
[2:05:40] able to to meet this deadline
[2:05:45] and so I'm excited about this
[2:05:45] master plan.
[2:05:48] I have seen some things that
[2:05:49] are questionable obviously how
[2:05:54] we park being a a topic we have
[2:05:55] to do better.
[2:05:56] I mean there's some things that
[2:05:57] I am questioning and there are
[2:05:59] some things that I am concerned
[2:06:00] about the master plan in it not
[2:06:03] including much of how we part
[2:06:07] now this time last year to how
[2:06:08] we park wasn't a topic because
[2:06:08] there were there was intentions
[2:06:11] to do something with it that
[2:06:11] matters that matters when
[2:06:15] you're here in the community
[2:06:15] asking for feedback.
[2:06:18] >> most people don't know you
[2:06:19] know, up until actually until
[2:06:22] june 30th it's still a special
[2:06:25] event space right will be
[2:06:26] hopefully transitioning it over
[2:06:26] to you.
[2:06:30] but when you put survey out and
[2:06:31] say hey, what do you want us to
[2:06:32] do with our parks?
[2:06:33] how we park isn't considered
[2:06:34] and so I just kind of wish
[2:06:37] there was more of a campaign
[2:06:38] and let people know like hey
[2:06:39] joe how he park is now going to
[2:06:41] be a part of our master plan
[2:06:42] back in january or back in
[2:06:45] september when it was realized
[2:06:45] that we weren't moving forward
[2:06:48] with the other option.
[2:06:49] and so yeah, that's water under
[2:06:52] the bridge right now.
[2:06:54] but you know, I don't want to
[2:06:54] take away from the work you put
[2:06:57] in and carlos but I do want to
[2:06:58] make sure that we're mindful
[2:07:01] of this because we can't let
[2:07:05] our lack of effort in doing
[2:07:05] things in a timely manner put
[2:07:08] us in a position as councilor
[2:07:09] where here we are two weeks
[2:07:13] before deadline and we're
[2:07:13] forced to pretty much vote.
[2:07:17] if not, we won't support that
[2:07:20] we need in terms of grants so I
[2:07:21] appreciate your effort.
[2:07:22] I just want you to know that I
[2:07:23] definitely appreciate your
[2:07:24] effort and I look forward to
[2:07:28] this to this process and seeing
[2:07:28] how it turns out.
[2:07:29] thank you.
[2:07:32] council member arlington.
[2:07:32] um, yes.
[2:07:33] thank you.
[2:07:35] so at first glance I found the
[2:07:36] two hundred twenty four page
[2:07:39] study overwhelming and then I
[2:07:43] dug into it and I'm impressed
[2:07:43] with the rigor with the
[2:07:47] organization and I'm excited
[2:07:48] about the future of anoxia.
[2:07:48] we're knoxville's indoor and
[2:07:50] outdoor spaces.
[2:07:53] this is a community road map
[2:07:54] for our active and passive
[2:07:58] public spaces and really the
[2:07:58] next faster than taking this
[2:08:01] this road work and setting
[2:08:02] priorities, allocating funds,
[2:08:06] applying for funds and then
[2:08:09] competent execution and it
[2:08:10] is helpful it's been helpful to
[2:08:14] me to have conversations with
[2:08:14] my constituents that this is a
[2:08:18] framework for the next level
[2:08:19] of discussion, be a tool to
[2:08:20] help city staff come back to
[2:08:22] this council with what they
[2:08:25] hope the next steps would be.
[2:08:28] the plan is required by the
[2:08:29] bitd to secure funding.
[2:08:32] we need that funding.
[2:08:33] the plan includes a list
[2:08:34] of private state federal grants
[2:08:37] that the city can plot for that
[2:08:38] on page two or four three two
[2:08:38] eight eight.
[2:08:40] if you're wondering it includes
[2:08:41] criteria that city capital
[2:08:44] projects committee will use to
[2:08:44] make these decisions.
[2:08:48] that's page 212 217 page one
[2:08:48] ninety nine.
[2:08:52] I was mind blowing to me it was
[2:08:53] it was a helpful framework to
[2:08:55] understand how to go back to
[2:08:56] the beginning and how to go to
[2:08:57] the end and basically it
[2:09:00] recommended where basketball
[2:09:01] courts should be, where tennis
[2:09:01] courts should be.
[2:09:04] we're square fields should be
[2:09:04] where swimming pools should be.
[2:09:07] we're walking trails.
[2:09:08] there was an incredible thing
[2:09:11] where it's I've got a page here
[2:09:12] you can't see it but basically
[2:09:15] it takes indoor cintas walking
[2:09:16] lubes natural areas, water
[2:09:19] accessories, parks, pools, all
[2:09:19] these different recreation
[2:09:23] opportunities and it tells us
[2:09:24] the condition that those spaces
[2:09:26] are in and what the recommended
[2:09:27] for those places are and I
[2:09:31] found that very helpful a great
[2:09:31] inventory about deciding what
[2:09:35] we are going to do next.
[2:09:39] I would like to ask well what
[2:09:40] so I was impressed with the
[2:09:40] public participation.
[2:09:43] I participated myself both
[2:09:44] online and in go into meetings
[2:09:47] and fountain city happens to be
[2:09:48] very active when it comes to
[2:09:48] their community rec center.
[2:09:51] there's baseball fields so they
[2:09:52] showed out in droves and so I
[2:09:55] went to two very well attended
[2:09:55] meetings.
[2:09:56] I heard that some were not well
[2:09:58] attended but again had the
[2:10:02] opportunity to go online and do
[2:10:06] these things so question I have
[2:10:09] well I'll begin with this.
[2:10:10] I think it's it is it's
[2:10:12] rightful to think about holiway
[2:10:16] park and I personally
[2:10:19] appreciate the manner in which
[2:10:20] this plan talks about how we
[2:10:24] park and it's very it's not
[2:10:24] very much there.
[2:10:25] it's on page one seventy five
[2:10:28] under neighborhood park vision
[2:10:29] so it calls schwarzbart a
[2:10:32] neighborhood park and it has a
[2:10:33] little arrow out.
[2:10:36] this is discussions ongoing for
[2:10:37] chally park to be managed by
[2:10:40] praed parks and rec department
[2:10:43] starting in twenty twenty six
[2:10:48] discussions are going.
[2:10:49] I love that the plan does not
[2:10:50] prescribe what we do with the
[2:10:51] park except describes it as a
[2:10:55] neighborhood park which while
[2:10:56] we really want to ask two
[2:10:59] questions one at will parks and
[2:11:03] recreation department be taking
[2:11:04] over the management of how we
[2:11:06] park after the current legends
[2:11:07] contract expires this summer.
[2:11:10] >> mr. Debartolo, I'm going to
[2:11:11] be proposing that in the budget
[2:11:14] and so with that change will
[2:11:18] come money that that cheryl
[2:11:19] lee's team will need to have
[2:11:19] that.
[2:11:20] so yes, that is the plan
[2:11:22] subject to your review and
[2:11:23] approval this body will have to
[2:11:26] make sure that we have the
[2:11:27] resources such a high park can
[2:11:30] be managed at the same level as
[2:11:30] parks across the city.
[2:11:32] ok, and then secondly I have
[2:11:34] is the creation of the highway
[2:11:35] park advisory group which we've
[2:11:38] heard some feedback on first
[2:11:39] public meeting is next week.
[2:11:42] and so my question is this is a
[2:11:42] statement from from you mayor
[2:11:43] kincannon.
[2:11:44] as promised, the city is moving
[2:11:45] forward collaboratively towards
[2:11:46] a community driven future for
[2:11:49] charlie park.
[2:11:50] so my question is how will the
[2:11:52] charkaoui park advisory group
[2:11:53] create a collaborative and
[2:11:57] community driven process?
[2:12:00] well, I I as I'll try to answer
[2:12:03] this first is the the process
[2:12:04] going to start next week and
[2:12:08] the community advisory group,
[2:12:09] this group of people there's
[2:12:09] people who have a lot
[2:12:10] of different perspectives and
[2:12:12] backgrounds as someone said,
[2:12:13] there are some people on that
[2:12:16] group who were very maybe
[2:12:16] supportive of the emerald
[2:12:17] initiative.
[2:12:18] there's others who are not
[2:12:20] supportive that that's that's
[2:12:23] old news that we're moving
[2:12:24] beyond.
[2:12:25] we have a clean slate and we're
[2:12:28] going to use the information we
[2:12:29] have collected from the
[2:12:31] twenty nineteen vision program
[2:12:31] .
[2:12:32] the idea that this is going to
[2:12:33] be a park now not just a park
[2:12:36] in name obviously the named
[2:12:36] shehabi park's been around one
[2:12:39] hundred years but it has been
[2:12:40] operated as an event space for
[2:12:43] I don't know decades.
[2:12:44] so we're going to have
[2:12:44] stakeholders from the current
[2:13:05] tenants which is the you know,
[2:13:06] ace jim the fair, the zoo, the
[2:13:07] museum also nearby
[2:13:07] neighborhoods business folks
[2:13:08] and they're going to convene
[2:13:09] and have a group of a set
[2:13:10] of meetings to talk about what
[2:13:10] the vision should be.
[2:13:11] what does the neighborhood park
[2:13:12] look like to one person might
[2:13:12] be different from another
[2:13:12] person.
[2:13:13] some people the focus is on
[2:13:14] sports.
[2:13:14] other people might be passive
[2:13:15] park and trees and gardens.
[2:13:16] can we serve all of those also
[2:13:17] it's going to be a way for
[2:13:18] people to have to be a funnel
[2:13:19] for information so they know
[2:13:21] what constraints we are as far
[2:13:22] as you know, underwater issues
[2:13:26] hydrogel cast and all of that
[2:13:30] but also a funnel out a spout
[2:13:30] or a spigot of information out
[2:13:33] to the community.
[2:13:34] so the group receives
[2:13:34] information in and shares
[2:13:37] information out.
[2:13:41] so I don't know if miss justice
[2:13:42] you you and your team are sort
[2:13:44] of leading this effort along
[2:13:44] with other staff.
[2:13:48] so there's a community there's
[2:13:49] the cpa, the park advisory
[2:13:52] group but there's going to be a
[2:13:52] lot of staff there.
[2:13:54] I'm, you know, very supportive
[2:13:56] of this process.
[2:13:57] I'm not dictating you know,
[2:13:59] we're not dictating the outcome
[2:13:59] .
[2:14:00] we're just saying here we are
[2:14:01] to support this.
[2:14:03] barbara mcmurry is going to
[2:14:04] help facilitate it similar to
[2:14:07] what we had outside facilitated
[2:14:08] for the south waterfront
[2:14:09] misjudges.
[2:14:12] could you speak maybe elaborate
[2:14:13] a little bit more?
[2:14:14] we're working very closely with
[2:14:16] the council member of grant and
[2:14:20] council member healthlink on
[2:14:21] how this can move forward and
[2:14:24] mr justice, maybe you can
[2:14:25] elaborate a little so we will
[2:14:28] ask people to come together in
[2:14:29] these workshops to sit around
[2:14:29] the table and have
[2:14:32] conversations and do workshop
[2:14:33] activities where we share
[2:14:36] stories and memories of the
[2:14:39] park and also what's important
[2:14:40] to people to see as the park
[2:14:43] grows and takes shape to really
[2:14:44] be what knoxville needs for the
[2:14:44] future.
[2:14:48] so how we do that is we've
[2:14:49] asked people to be a member
[2:14:51] of this group and represent
[2:14:52] their community but also share
[2:14:55] information back from the
[2:14:55] group.
[2:14:59] so it's you know, the funnel
[2:14:59] of information works both ways.
[2:15:00] so we're really excited about
[2:15:03] bringing people together to
[2:15:04] learn those community insights
[2:15:05] and what people feel
[2:15:10] is important for the future.
[2:15:11] I'm not sure who is next.
[2:15:13] maybe council member honeycut.
[2:15:14] I actually think councilwoman
[2:15:18] adams or remember I spoke with
[2:15:21] council member adams I think
[2:15:22] yours was next that there's a
[2:15:24] lot of light so a lot of lights
[2:15:24] .
[2:15:25] um, thank you.
[2:15:26] I wanted to say thank you to
[2:15:29] parks rec for all the work with
[2:15:32] the survey and certainly to
[2:15:33] carlos perez for all the work
[2:15:36] in putting the plan together.
[2:15:37] I too got to attend some of the
[2:15:39] sessions they were well
[2:15:40] attended where I where I went.
[2:15:41] I was great to see the feedback
[2:15:43] that came back from people and
[2:15:46] just all the exercises to both
[2:15:47] help people understand how the
[2:15:51] information was to be collected
[2:15:52] , what would happen with it and
[2:15:53] then to really engage with the
[2:15:53] different options there.
[2:15:58] um, I also want to acknowledge
[2:16:01] that as a council member I
[2:16:02] benefited greatly from being
[2:16:05] able to sit with mr. Perez and
[2:16:06] have him walk through a very
[2:16:09] robust study.
[2:16:10] I got comments from the public
[2:16:13] about so long how do I go
[2:16:13] through this?
[2:16:14] I shared this with him.
[2:16:16] I know that many people
[2:16:17] experience that but having his
[2:16:20] walk through helped me see the
[2:16:21] highlights and at the end
[2:16:24] of that I did ask is there any
[2:16:25] way that we could have sort
[2:16:28] of a summary dec that could
[2:16:29] have gone out to the public?
[2:16:30] and that's where I really got
[2:16:32] educated on the time frame the
[2:16:33] funding opportunities and how
[2:16:36] important that is that is why
[2:16:37] I'm not supporting postponing
[2:16:37] this tonight.
[2:16:39] I want to make that clear.
[2:16:41] I see how this plan supports
[2:16:43] future good work that the city
[2:16:47] needs but I would ask that for
[2:16:48] future processes of this kind
[2:16:51] of thing that we include in the
[2:16:52] scope when there's a great
[2:16:55] robust study that is dig on the
[2:16:56] study.
[2:16:56] the study is great but that we
[2:16:58] do include a scope that has a
[2:16:59] summary dec that people can can
[2:17:03] benefit from just to make it a
[2:17:03] little bit easier and build in
[2:17:06] a little bit of time for people
[2:17:07] to consume that summary and
[2:17:09] have all of us as ambassadors
[2:17:10] to go out there.
[2:17:13] do you think that helps?
[2:17:14] but overall and I'm not
[2:17:21] speaking to the the c pag group
[2:17:22] that I don't think is part
[2:17:25] of this draft plan.
[2:17:26] I think that's another
[2:17:26] conversation that's really
[2:17:27] important to have.
[2:17:29] but I'm talking about this
[2:17:29] draft plan and I am very
[2:17:32] thankful for it and supportive
[2:17:32] .
[2:17:33] thank you.
[2:17:33] thank you.
[2:17:34] thank you.
[2:17:36] council member pirker thank you
[2:17:37] mayor.
[2:17:40] I had concerns about this study
[2:17:41] that I expressed with the
[2:17:44] consultant from day one the
[2:17:47] framing of the study I found
[2:17:48] quite problematic one aspect
[2:17:51] of it being that there's no
[2:17:51] differentiation between
[2:17:59] residents um proximity to city
[2:18:00] managed amenities and privately
[2:18:03] managed amenities.
[2:18:04] I find that very concerning.
[2:18:07] uh, one reason is because
[2:18:08] throughout this process and
[2:18:12] over the years, uh, my
[2:18:15] community where I currently
[2:18:16] live in east nashville has
[2:18:19] consistently complained about
[2:18:20] uh ballfields that are locked
[2:18:23] up the community and have
[2:18:24] access to those ballfields so
[2:18:25] they don't have that pride and
[2:18:26] ownership over those all fields
[2:18:27] so they don't show up for the
[2:18:28] community meetings and the
[2:18:31] discussion about plans because
[2:18:32] they keep getting ignored.
[2:18:35] we went through a year long
[2:18:35] process.
[2:18:38] that aspect completely ignored
[2:18:41] for a year.
[2:18:45] I just got a complaint today
[2:18:46] about ballfields and how they
[2:18:49] were used over the weekend and
[2:18:50] who has access to them and who
[2:18:55] does not.
[2:18:59] I also got a complaint about
[2:19:00] ned mcwherter park over the
[2:19:03] weekend and the bathmat store
[2:19:04] competition and what's going on
[2:19:08] with the boat ramps at ned
[2:19:09] mcwherter park and I told them
[2:19:12] well I know there's some
[2:19:12] renovations coming but let me
[2:19:15] check into it.
[2:19:19] they took the whole duck that
[2:19:20] the boat paddlers have been
[2:19:23] used and ripped off of the side
[2:19:23] .
[2:19:24] it's now floating down the
[2:19:25] river and now these new docks
[2:19:27] have been put and I guess maybe
[2:19:28] these are the improvements I'd
[2:19:31] give someone a chance to
[2:19:32] explain it to me.
[2:19:36] but these folks are prepared to
[2:19:36] go to thursday's public meeting
[2:19:40] or maybe the one on the
[2:19:40] twenty something because no one
[2:19:43] communicated with them about
[2:19:44] this potential project that it
[2:19:48] seems like we're trying to rush
[2:19:48] ahead for because there's
[2:19:51] potential money that we can
[2:19:51] apply for but we're not working
[2:19:54] with the community that
[2:19:55] actually uses these spaces to
[2:19:59] give them a heads up about
[2:20:00] whether it's going to be a
[2:20:03] temporary interruption for the
[2:20:04] bass masters competition or
[2:20:06] whether this is going to be an
[2:20:10] ongoing long term change.
[2:20:11] and if that's the case, what
[2:20:12] they're telling me is that
[2:20:18] these new motor boat docks are
[2:20:19] not safe for them to use with
[2:20:22] their rowboat.
[2:20:23] so why are we not having a
[2:20:23] conversation?
[2:20:27] I'm I'm more committed to a
[2:20:30] postponement when I see us
[2:20:30] rushing towards projects and
[2:20:33] we're not involving the
[2:20:34] community members who are using
[2:20:37] those amenities.
[2:20:38] it goes back to one of the
[2:20:39] public forum speaker said
[2:20:45] earlier trust is a something we
[2:20:49] have to value during these
[2:20:53] processes maintaining trust
[2:20:54] that the community building
[2:20:56] trust of the community and it
[2:20:57] can't just be parts of the
[2:20:58] community, it can't just be our
[2:21:01] hand-picked community members
[2:21:02] that we put on committees.
[2:21:05] it can't be just the people we
[2:21:07] know and like in love it has to
[2:21:08] be all parts of our community
[2:21:10] that we are working to build
[2:21:12] trust with.
[2:21:13] that means we have to listen to
[2:21:17] them.
[2:21:18] that means we have to slow
[2:21:20] things down when the community
[2:21:21] tells us we're going too fast
[2:21:24] we can't just say well you
[2:21:25] know, the plan works for me.
[2:21:28] well, you know, over here in
[2:21:29] this part of the city it'll be
[2:21:30] fine.
[2:21:30] y'all might be having some
[2:21:32] issues but over here is going
[2:21:32] to be fine.
[2:21:35] let's see how this is impacting
[2:21:36] our entire community and slow
[2:21:40] down when we need to.
[2:21:43] I have no interest in rushing.
[2:21:44] I'm also concerned to hear that
[2:21:48] the twenty nineteen gl how
[2:21:51] housing plan is being used as a
[2:21:52] reference.
[2:21:53] when I when there was a
[2:21:55] discussion of selling to
[2:21:57] holiway park and I was in a
[2:21:59] public fight with the city
[2:21:59] administration about whether
[2:22:03] the twenty nineteen plan was
[2:22:04] the actual plan or not and what
[2:22:08] was continuing to be told
[2:22:08] publicly was that wasn't the
[2:22:09] plan.
[2:22:12] so now the public doesn't think
[2:22:12] the twenty nineteen plan is the
[2:22:13] plan.
[2:22:15] they think there's an
[2:22:16] opportunity now to create a new
[2:22:22] plan but what they found out
[2:22:23] is the city has handpicked who
[2:22:27] they want at the table to
[2:22:31] create that plan.
[2:22:32] I wish it were as obviously
[2:22:35] offense to everyone else in
[2:22:38] this room as it is to me
[2:22:39] because who else would stand
[2:22:43] for that to allow a hand-picked
[2:22:47] thank you, councilman vice
[2:22:50] mayor pierucci.
[2:22:51] thank you.
[2:22:54] I just want to speak to the
[2:22:57] show how a park situation to
[2:23:01] absolutely agree that there has
[2:23:02] to be robust public process.
[2:23:05] I do not see a steering
[2:23:27] committee as the end all be all
[2:23:27] to decide that committee.
[2:23:28] my hope would be for the record
[2:23:29] that that steering committee
[2:23:30] does gather information, gives
[2:23:31] information out but also helps
[2:23:32] create a robust public process
[2:23:33] to get input from all
[2:23:33] stakeholders across the
[2:23:34] community that loved how we
[2:23:35] park and want to see it
[2:23:36] thriving.
[2:23:36] we have two great anchor
[2:23:37] tenants there with the zoo and
[2:23:40] the muse and long, long desire
[2:23:44] to see how a park be a thriving
[2:23:47] park back in east knoxville.
[2:23:49] so my hope is that it would be
[2:23:52] a true public process I did
[2:23:56] generations refind come back
[2:24:00] present but there has to be a
[2:24:01] timeline in which you try to
[2:24:03] get that work done because
[2:24:04] dragging it out for a very long
[2:24:07] time won't satisfy people
[2:24:08] either.
[2:24:10] so this has nothing to do with
[2:24:11] the vote.
[2:24:12] I'm going to vote for this but
[2:24:14] we talked about how we park and
[2:24:15] that would be my expectation
[2:24:18] is that it involved a robust
[2:24:22] public process as the designs
[2:24:23] that are created.
[2:24:27] and I will also say for those
[2:24:28] the four of us that have been
[2:24:31] on council back on this plan
[2:24:31] started I did appreciate the
[2:24:35] one on one personal hour, hour
[2:24:38] and a half long conversations
[2:24:39] about three or four times
[2:24:42] during this process updating us
[2:24:43] where we were on the plan and
[2:24:46] the feedback we've been
[2:24:46] getting.
[2:24:49] my questions were answered.
[2:24:50] so I don't see you here,
[2:24:54] carlos, but I will see you
[2:24:55] because you're behind tom's
[2:24:56] chair.
[2:24:58] so but it's nice to see you in
[2:25:01] person rather than over a
[2:25:01] screen.
[2:25:04] so thank you very much.
[2:25:08] hey, council member thomas.
[2:25:09] yes.
[2:25:10] I had a question about who
[2:25:13] chose the task force for
[2:25:13] highway park.
[2:25:16] >> uh, mr. Grant and I met
[2:25:16] several times.
[2:25:19] I also talked to debbie housley
[2:25:20] .
[2:25:20] it's an advisory group similar
[2:25:24] to the way we did the south
[2:25:25] waterfront advisory group.
[2:25:28] it's not uh, written in stone
[2:25:29] and it's not it can evolve
[2:25:32] sometimes people have a lot
[2:25:32] of time and then their time
[2:25:35] availability changes.
[2:25:36] as I mentioned, it is open to
[2:25:36] the public.
[2:25:39] we want it to be transparent.
[2:25:42] uh, you know, this is just a
[2:25:43] kicking off a process to do all
[2:25:46] the things that you several
[2:25:47] members have said.
[2:25:48] what you know, what is the
[2:25:51] community's vision and desire
[2:25:51] for this park and what are the
[2:25:55] constraints we have to what are
[2:25:55] the opportunities and what are
[2:25:58] the constraints?
[2:25:59] we have some special assets
[2:26:00] into how we park that are
[2:26:03] unique zoo the muse, um those
[2:26:05] sorts of things.
[2:26:06] but it also is unique in that
[2:26:09] it has, uh, magnolia avenue
[2:26:10] running through it.
[2:26:11] it's in the middle of a more
[2:26:14] urban setting so I'm not
[2:26:14] predetermining the outcome.
[2:26:15] but I do think that starting
[2:26:18] the meeting and having those
[2:26:18] discussions and letting that
[2:26:22] advisory group say do they need
[2:26:23] to be bigger or smaller have
[2:26:26] represented there's a lot
[2:26:26] of community members who are
[2:26:27] willing to participate and
[2:26:30] share information on an as
[2:26:31] needed basis like the cultural
[2:26:31] exchange center.
[2:26:34] it's heritage others who might
[2:26:37] want to share information about
[2:26:38] horticulture and hydrology but
[2:26:41] they don't necessarily need to
[2:26:42] be at all the meetings but they
[2:26:45] could be there when the group
[2:26:45] wants more information.
[2:26:49] yeah, my question thank you for
[2:26:49] all that.
[2:26:50] my question mainly was just the
[2:26:53] makeup of the advisory group,
[2:26:54] how they were chosen and from
[2:26:56] what I hear from others it's
[2:26:57] flexible that members can be
[2:27:01] added possibly or as I think
[2:27:04] there's some I'm hearing some
[2:27:05] concern in the community that
[2:27:08] the task force is not
[2:27:09] representative enough.
[2:27:12] I don't want to be overly
[2:27:12] critical but I am hearing that
[2:27:13] from the community.
[2:27:13] right.
[2:27:17] well, I think it'd be good to
[2:27:18] have this meeting again.
[2:27:20] these are not my picks.
[2:27:21] these are things that I worked
[2:27:23] on with mr. Grant.
[2:27:24] I think that hopefully he would
[2:27:25] agree that most of these
[2:27:28] individual people that he and I
[2:27:29] discussed and council member
[2:27:32] housley also discussed.
[2:27:33] but I'm it's not it's not
[2:27:33] written in stone.
[2:27:36] let's see who comes to the
[2:27:37] first meeting and wants to be
[2:27:40] part of the discussion whether
[2:27:41] they were, you know, listed in
[2:27:44] a media article or not, that's
[2:27:44] fine with me.
[2:27:45] and I also just hope that you
[2:27:47] know, all of council supports
[2:27:48] this effort.
[2:27:50] we want it to be transparent
[2:27:54] and inclusive and also I hope
[2:27:55] that we don't hold the master
[2:27:58] plan hostage to what
[2:27:59] is happening in iraq.
[2:28:00] I think that's uh they're
[2:28:03] they're both interconnected and
[2:28:04] we're very committed to trying
[2:28:07] to support a future analysis
[2:28:10] and vision for how we park.
[2:28:11] but this master plan is for the
[2:28:11] whole city.
[2:28:14] it's how iraq is mentioned.
[2:28:15] it says basically we're going
[2:28:16] to figure it out in
[2:28:18] twenty twenty six and that's
[2:28:19] where we are right now.
[2:28:21] but this this master plan
[2:28:22] process has been the hard work
[2:28:25] of many, many people and that
[2:28:26] happened starting about a year
[2:28:28] ago when charlie parker
[2:28:29] is still an event space.
[2:28:32] so that's that's why it's uh
[2:28:33] you know that history.
[2:28:34] yeah.
[2:28:37] so is there a process suppose
[2:28:40] like a group in the community
[2:28:41] or a particular individual
[2:28:45] could they apply or to the task
[2:28:49] force I guess how would someone
[2:28:50] why do we do that at the first
[2:28:52] meeting I say see it people say
[2:28:53] ok, all right, I don't want it
[2:28:55] to be like american cannons
[2:28:56] exclusive decision.
[2:28:57] I just I think in the south
[2:29:00] waterfront advisory group it
[2:29:01] was it was more fluid.
[2:29:04] we had people who were very
[2:29:05] much, uh, critics and then
[2:29:07] people who were, you know,
[2:29:08] neutral and people who had just
[2:29:11] different ideas and and they
[2:29:11] all came together.
[2:29:12] some came to every meeting,
[2:29:13] some came to some meetings as
[2:29:15] their schedules allowed.
[2:29:16] it was more of an ad hoc type
[2:29:19] of thing.
[2:29:20] it wasn't like an official
[2:29:20] appointment letter from city
[2:29:23] council or the mayor was a
[2:29:23] little more informal and maybe
[2:29:25] this advisory group thinks it
[2:29:26] needs to be more formal.
[2:29:27] I'm happy to listen to their
[2:29:31] suggestions.
[2:29:32] well, thank you for that.
[2:29:33] I just underline I am concerned
[2:29:34] and have heard concern about
[2:29:38] though that the makeup of the
[2:29:38] advisory council for children
[2:29:42] may possibly be a little bit
[2:29:43] too restrictive.
[2:29:44] I don't know I haven't really
[2:29:47] surveyed who's on it.
[2:29:48] I'm just getting those concerns
[2:29:50] and so I would encourage you
[2:29:54] and council member grant to
[2:29:54] keep working together and make
[2:29:57] sure that it's inclusive and
[2:29:59] you know, one of the problems
[2:30:01] with a giant park process was
[2:30:02] people who felt like they had
[2:30:06] been left out of the process
[2:30:07] and I don't want to see that
[2:30:09] happen with the advisory
[2:30:09] committee.
[2:30:11] I don't want them to feel like
[2:30:13] it's kind of a overly select
[2:30:17] group and not expansive enough
[2:30:18] in the community.
[2:30:19] so thank you for your comments.
[2:30:22] I understand council member
[2:30:25] honeycut I think you've had
[2:30:26] your light on a while.
[2:30:27] I've been looking at that on
[2:30:28] this site.
[2:30:29] I'm sorry.
[2:30:30] it's fine and it's late so I'll
[2:30:33] keep it keep my comments brief
[2:30:34] but I think I just wanted to
[2:30:37] bring it back quickly to to the
[2:30:38] master plan which we're voting
[2:30:41] on tonight and is part
[2:30:45] of what's right before us
[2:30:45] today.
[2:30:49] and just say to miss ellie and
[2:30:50] the parks and rec department
[2:30:50] and carlos but I think you guys
[2:30:53] did a fantastic job.
[2:30:54] I mean I've been involved with
[2:30:56] this for over a year now first
[2:30:59] as a citizen and then as an
[2:31:00] elected official and you've
[2:31:01] done a great job both engaging
[2:31:04] citizens because I was I have a
[2:31:05] lot of the meetings last year
[2:31:08] and and keeping us abreast
[2:31:09] along the way.
[2:31:11] so I definitely feel that, you
[2:31:12] know, you have you held a good
[2:31:13] transparent process and if
[2:31:15] people didn't participate it
[2:31:16] wasn't from a lack of you
[2:31:17] trying to get them to
[2:31:19] participate because it was
[2:31:20] certainly you were doing
[2:31:23] everything within your power.
[2:31:24] is the plan perfect?
[2:31:24] absolutely not.
[2:31:27] no plan is but it's a great
[2:31:31] plan and it helps move the city
[2:31:35] forward in an important way and
[2:31:36] it leaves I think in a good
[2:31:36] way.
[2:31:39] it leaves room to have a much
[2:31:40] more robust and in-depth
[2:31:43] discussion about the future
[2:31:43] tillawi park very purposely so
[2:31:47] that this year we can all
[2:31:48] engage in the important process
[2:31:49] we need to have regarding that
[2:31:51] park in particular but as a
[2:31:51] global master plan for our city
[2:31:55] as a something north star for
[2:31:56] us to point and at least move
[2:31:58] the train forward.
[2:31:59] you've done a great job and I
[2:32:00] look forward to supporting it.
[2:32:00] thank you.
[2:32:02] thank you.
[2:32:02] thank you.
[2:32:09] council member housley I so
[2:32:10] thank you.
[2:32:13] um kudos to y'all y'all great
[2:32:14] like my buddy carlos out there
[2:32:14] he's moving to knoxville.
[2:32:16] did you know that him here.
[2:32:17] yeah yeah we're working on it
[2:32:20] right gordo's yes his wife
[2:32:21] loves it er so yeah so I was
[2:32:24] told I would have a debbie
[2:32:28] downer question ok why was the
[2:32:31] parks and rec master plan not
[2:32:35] included in our agenda.
[2:32:36] what do you mean the back
[2:32:37] wasn't the big packet was not
[2:32:39] included in our agenda and so
[2:32:40] the community is a little bit
[2:32:44] nervous it wasn't there and so
[2:32:46] I'm sure your department yeah
[2:32:47] mr swanson it was primarily a
[2:32:51] matter it's a really long
[2:32:51] document.
[2:32:55] it has it was difficult to
[2:32:58] attach by the computer program.
[2:32:59] we've got new complete computer
[2:33:00] programs and our people
[2:33:02] couldn't quite figure out how
[2:33:05] to attach that big a document
[2:33:10] to the to the packets and so we
[2:33:13] gave links to it rather than to
[2:33:14] print out the entire problem
[2:33:14] not to start with.
[2:33:17] there was nothing on there so
[2:33:18] but yeah but there was a link
[2:33:21] to it as I recall no there was
[2:33:22] not to start with no but that's
[2:33:25] ok it got added which is fine I
[2:33:26] just there was some concern
[2:33:29] about why people couldn't see
[2:33:30] it and so I apologize that was
[2:33:54] I guess like yeah we're sorry
[2:33:54] my understanding is we're going
[2:33:56] to link from the start so if
[2:33:57] that didn't happen I was not
[2:33:58] where I was going and I had it
[2:33:59] so ok.
[2:34:00] I do think there's community
[2:34:00] input.
[2:34:01] you know what's happened long
[2:34:01] before it got to the council's
[2:34:02] agenda all along the way
[2:34:03] including the final master
[2:34:03] plan.
[2:34:04] so some people look council
[2:34:04] agendas but I think a lot
[2:34:05] of other people had other
[2:34:06] forums find it so I thought and
[2:34:07] so I just was going just you
[2:34:10] know, any and no, no, no.
[2:34:11] I plan to support sporkin plan
[2:34:12] to support a plan.
[2:34:13] >> I'm good.
[2:34:14] thank you.
[2:34:14] council member grant.
[2:34:16] yeah, I just want to speak to a
[2:34:19] couple of things on one of the
[2:34:20] things that councilman thomas
[2:34:21] mentioned in terms of the
[2:34:28] process while I appreciate the
[2:34:32] commitment being made on prior
[2:34:33] to me meeting with you so let
[2:34:37] me say this we met today I did
[2:34:38] meet with the mayor and it was
[2:34:40] good meeting, very productive.
[2:34:43] I was able to get a lot answers
[2:34:44] , a lot of questions answered
[2:34:47] that I didn't know previously
[2:34:51] to meeting with you.
[2:34:52] I was ok with how the process
[2:34:55] was in a very beginning giving
[2:34:59] the final outcome of the list
[2:35:02] and how it was put in the
[2:35:03] community.
[2:35:07] I got calls and wasn't able to
[2:35:07] answer questions right.
[2:35:08] and as the district six
[2:35:11] represented where this park
[2:35:14] sits is somewhat challenging
[2:35:15] and frustrating when your
[2:35:18] constituents call and you don't
[2:35:19] have the answers for them, you
[2:35:22] know when the communication
[2:35:26] there's a communication barrier
[2:35:27] let me just put it that way.
[2:35:28] but I would say it was a
[2:35:28] productive meeting.
[2:35:30] I got a lot of things answered,
[2:35:33] you know, in terms of the list
[2:35:34] on the list needs to be
[2:35:37] improved.
[2:35:38] I would agree that when we have
[2:35:41] this meeting next week that
[2:35:42] we're able to make additions.
[2:35:43] that's something that as the
[2:35:46] district representative I would
[2:35:49] like to do because there are
[2:35:50] community members out here who
[2:35:52] come from different backgrounds
[2:35:53] who can provide a different
[2:35:57] expertize in view of what we
[2:36:00] might need for this park.
[2:36:01] you had a number of individuals
[2:36:04] who fought to keep this park
[2:36:05] and I and I think, you know,
[2:36:09] optics matter when when you're
[2:36:10] when creating a group in terms
[2:36:12] of how we move forward, I think
[2:36:13] it's important that you allow
[2:36:17] the people who advocated to be
[2:36:18] a part of that process not just
[2:36:19] invited but actually at the
[2:36:20] table.
[2:36:24] and so you know, I just want to
[2:36:27] say, you know, I hope moving
[2:36:28] forward the community will stay
[2:36:31] involved in this process.
[2:36:32] it's going to be a drawn out
[2:36:35] process and we need community
[2:36:36] members to show up.
[2:36:37] we need communities to give
[2:36:39] their input right.
[2:36:40] even when you don't get what
[2:36:41] you want right, you still show
[2:36:43] up and you put forth the effort
[2:36:44] if it's that important to you.
[2:36:47] and so, you know, I just wanted
[2:36:48] to get that on a record, you
[2:36:51] know, I do thank you from for
[2:36:51] making that adjustment and just
[2:36:54] being open minded to realize
[2:36:55] that we do need more
[2:36:58] individuals on this.
[2:37:00] and so and I want to invite
[2:37:00] council members you know I know
[2:37:02] your schedules are stretched.
[2:37:03] I would like to see you guys
[2:37:07] participate as much as you can.
[2:37:08] I would like to see this group
[2:37:10] not only centered on district
[2:37:11] six but let's go out to the
[2:37:11] different districts.
[2:37:13] let's host meetings in
[2:37:14] different areas of the city to
[2:37:15] be able to get that feedback
[2:37:18] from, you know, different
[2:37:18] community members.
[2:37:19] we want everybody coming and
[2:37:22] visiting how we park not just
[2:37:23] those district residents or
[2:37:25] people in adjacent
[2:37:25] neighborhoods.
[2:37:27] we want to it's a city thing
[2:37:29] and we need as many people as
[2:37:30] we need as we should have at
[2:37:33] this table not just within the
[2:37:34] group.
[2:37:35] so thank you council member
[2:37:38] pirker.
[2:37:43] thank you, mayor, for your
[2:37:43] thoughts.
[2:37:51] one is uh I will be at every
[2:37:51] meeting.
[2:37:51] yeah.
[2:37:52] I don't have to invite me for
[2:37:54] me to show up.
[2:37:56] I will show up and I will be
[2:37:59] there um and I do find it
[2:38:03] unfortunate that uh the mayor
[2:38:06] keeps saying ay ay ay discuss
[2:38:07] this with council member grant
[2:38:11] councilman helmsley when I have
[2:38:11] fought to save holiway park for
[2:38:14] at least the last eight months.
[2:38:17] so not only is that offensive
[2:38:21] to me when you say that whether
[2:38:22] you intend to or not but it
[2:38:25] offends my constituents who um
[2:38:29] who see the work that I put in
[2:38:30] and don't appreciate the
[2:38:30] continued disrespect.
[2:38:36] I don't either um we the the
[2:38:40] the this master plan went
[2:38:40] through a public input process
[2:38:44] that finalized at the end
[2:38:48] of february uh, once that
[2:38:48] process finalized, I wondered
[2:38:51] well how will that input be
[2:38:52] incorporated into the final
[2:38:54] plan?
[2:38:59] and so, um, it was noted that
[2:39:02] the master plan was not in our
[2:39:03] packet but individuals have
[2:39:07] recently been exposed to the
[2:39:07] plan through the public input
[2:39:08] process.
[2:39:11] but I imagine many of them like
[2:39:14] I did would assume we would
[2:39:18] actually incorporate some that
[2:39:19] public input into that master
[2:39:22] plan would actually change
[2:39:23] following up public input
[2:39:26] process.
[2:39:27] did we make any changes to the
[2:39:30] plan following the public input
[2:39:31] process?
[2:39:33] >> we we thank you councilwoman
[2:39:34] parker.
[2:39:35] we did make some corrections
[2:39:35] into it.
[2:39:37] um, if you look at it this
[2:39:38] is really relatively minor.
[2:39:42] carlos could probably carlos
[2:39:42] perez could probably speak more
[2:39:43] to it and give you a true
[2:39:46] oversight what happened as he
[2:39:46] incorporated that information?
[2:39:48] a lot of the things that we
[2:39:50] came back with were around
[2:39:51] typos that need to happen
[2:39:53] because it was more of things
[2:39:54] that were already in the plan
[2:39:58] and not additions to the plan.
[2:39:59] and so I would I would probably
[2:40:01] lean to carlos, probably
[2:40:02] explain just a little bit more
[2:40:03] about what that final plan
[2:40:05] is and why it was written the
[2:40:06] way it is.
[2:40:06] >> mm hmm.
[2:40:09] I would love to hear from mr.
[2:40:13] perez about the changes made.
[2:40:13] good evening.
[2:40:14] mayor and council carlos perez
[2:40:17] 878 peachtree street, atlanta.
[2:40:18] thank you for the opportunity
[2:40:20] to to present to you this
[2:40:21] evening and thank you for that
[2:40:22] question.
[2:40:25] um, as director you mentioned
[2:40:27] we did receive comments uh for
[2:40:28] the master plan and as she
[2:40:29] mentioned they were relatively
[2:40:32] minor uh, related to typos.
[2:40:35] there were some park names that
[2:40:36] um I recommend were noted as
[2:40:40] needing to be updated.
[2:40:44] there was a lot of support for
[2:40:44] the suggestions that were
[2:40:48] included in the master plan and
[2:40:51] those were really the the
[2:40:52] changes that we we received.
[2:40:55] there was no major fundamental
[2:40:56] revisions or comments, uh, that
[2:40:59] we had received.
[2:41:03] thank you.
[2:41:18] um, there have been requests
[2:41:18] tonight that conversations
[2:41:22] continue and that this remains
[2:41:26] a somewhat flexible document.
[2:41:29] >> I would echo those request
[2:41:33] but I would also challenge us
[2:41:34] to question some of the
[2:41:37] assumptions that went into this
[2:41:41] uh, plan and understand that
[2:41:45] the community still has
[2:41:49] concerns and still, uh, at
[2:41:50] least making complaints to me.
[2:41:53] hopefully I'm not the only one
[2:41:54] that they're making complaints
[2:41:57] to but about, uh, privately
[2:42:01] managed amenities versus
[2:42:01] publicly managed amenities.
[2:42:05] I'm happy to see a proposal
[2:42:06] coming about shifting to how we
[2:42:09] park back to parks and rec.
[2:42:12] but I'm worried about other
[2:42:13] proposals to outsource some
[2:42:14] of these services that we might
[2:42:17] see in my meeting with the
[2:42:18] knoxville zoo.
[2:42:20] uh, there was discussion of the
[2:42:21] zoo potentially building a
[2:42:24] community center for that piece
[2:42:24] of property.
[2:42:28] I'm interested in seeing public
[2:42:32] spaces developed, um, if there
[2:42:33] is some sort of management
[2:42:35] shared then we have to
[2:42:36] seriously improve our
[2:42:40] transparency and our sharing
[2:42:42] of policy so people know how to
[2:42:47] access these services equitably
[2:42:47] .
[2:42:48] thank you.
[2:42:51] council member parker.
[2:42:52] just as a reminder I have an
[2:42:55] open door for all council
[2:42:58] members I meet with most of you
[2:42:59] routinely and happy to have
[2:43:00] standing meetings or ad hoc
[2:43:02] meetings.
[2:43:03] council member parker I enjoyed
[2:43:03] our most recent meeting where
[2:43:06] your focus was on the
[2:43:07] resolutions that you had
[2:43:10] presented to council.
[2:43:11] you know, often when I meet
[2:43:14] with council member grant
[2:43:15] charkaoui park is top of his
[2:43:16] list of things he wants to talk
[2:43:18] about happy to talk about that
[2:43:19] with you or any other council
[2:43:19] members.
[2:43:22] please contact my office and
[2:43:26] set up a meeting any further
[2:43:27] discussion on the master plan
[2:43:28] seeing none all those in favor
[2:43:30] please say hi and he opposed
[2:43:33] the motion carries unanimously
[2:43:37] ok motion carries eight one
[2:43:41] thank you parks and rec team
[2:43:41] and everyone who helped
[2:43:42] contribute to this plan we
[2:43:44] really appreciate them.
[2:43:48] >> next item please 12 in his
[2:43:49] resolution authorizing the
[2:43:52] mayor to execute an agreement
[2:43:53] with the knoxville civil war
[2:44:13] roundtable for the installation
[2:44:14] of a cannon and monument at the
[2:44:16] fort dickerson gateway park for
[2:44:19] motion made and seconded I I'm
[2:44:20] not sure if he's still here but
[2:44:21] there was someone here from the
[2:44:21] civil war roundtable, tom
[2:44:21] wright.
[2:44:22] if anyone has any questions
[2:44:23] seeing none of those in favor,
[2:44:24] please say any opposed motion
[2:44:26] motion carries eight one twelve
[2:44:27] was the resolution authorizing
[2:44:27] the mayor to execute an
[2:44:30] agreement with f three services
[2:44:31] llc for the maintenance
[2:44:34] of seven scattered landscape
[2:44:35] sites for an annual amounts not
[2:44:38] to exceed seventy two thousand
[2:44:39] five hundred fifty dollars move
[2:44:42] to improve motion made to
[2:44:43] approve and seconded council
[2:44:43] member grant.
[2:44:46] >> yeah I just want to
[2:44:46] highlight this particular
[2:44:50] resolution say thank you to our
[2:44:51] public service department and
[2:44:53] our procurement.
[2:44:54] this is a small minority
[2:44:58] business and so one of the
[2:44:59] things second so you know that
[2:45:02] how we part issue that the
[2:45:02] mayor had mentioned for me
[2:45:04] is just making sure are giving
[2:45:05] small disadvantaged businesses
[2:45:09] these type of opportunity.
[2:45:10] and so just want to say thank
[2:45:11] you to our public service
[2:45:13] department mayor and those who
[2:45:14] participated in this process
[2:45:17] and mr frazier came lawn care
[2:45:18] services as well.
[2:45:21] so thank any other questions or
[2:45:26] comments on all those in favor?
[2:45:27] please say hi and he opposed
[2:45:36] motion twelve the resolution
[2:45:37] authorizing the mayor to
[2:45:39] execute an agreement with
[2:45:41] carmichaels lawn llc to provide
[2:45:44] ground maintenance at the
[2:45:44] oddfellows cemetery and
[2:45:48] potter's field for an annual
[2:45:49] amounts not to exceed
[2:45:49] twenty six thousand nine
[2:45:52] hundred forty five dollars to
[2:45:53] approve most major
[2:45:53] improvements.
[2:45:55] I cannot remember grant.
[2:45:56] yes again I just want to say
[2:45:59] thank you to public service but
[2:46:03] also want to highlight another
[2:46:07] cemetery that we have in our
[2:46:08] community the crestview west
[2:46:11] district which is in district
[2:46:12] three myself and councilman
[2:46:16] doug we got to participate with
[2:46:19] a cleanup.
[2:46:20] we keep natural beautiful
[2:46:22] natural heritage the heart and
[2:46:23] family I mean it was over a
[2:46:26] hundred volunteers came out.
[2:46:27] I mean the city was able to
[2:46:31] provide, you know, help with
[2:46:33] trash pickup and so while this
[2:46:34] is oddfellows while this is in
[2:46:38] district six, it's a very
[2:46:38] historic cemetery.
[2:46:41] but I just wanted to get on a
[2:46:43] record for us to, you know, try
[2:46:45] to pay attention whether the
[2:46:46] state coming in or just
[2:46:46] figuring out how we can
[2:46:49] advocate for the crestview
[2:46:50] cemetery district is the it's
[2:46:53] the largest african-american
[2:46:54] cemetery that we have and the
[2:46:57] oldest cemetery that we have
[2:46:58] here in the city of knoxville
[2:47:00] actually countywide.
[2:47:02] and so, you know, I has been a
[2:47:05] process within itself.
[2:47:06] I'm hoping for help from our
[2:47:10] constituents, you know, to try
[2:47:10] to help councilman doug lloyd
[2:47:12] to try to shed some light on
[2:47:13] that particular cemetery.
[2:47:16] so thank you.
[2:47:17] any other questions or comments
[2:47:18] saying and all those in favor
[2:47:20] please say I oppose motion
[2:47:24] carries 12.
[2:47:25] q is the resolution authorizing
[2:47:27] the mayor to execute any all
[2:47:28] documents necessary to apply
[2:47:29] for and accept a project safe
[2:47:32] neighborhoods grant from the
[2:47:33] tennessee office of criminal
[2:47:34] justice programs and the amount
[2:47:36] of forty seven thousand six
[2:47:37] hundred eight dollars with no
[2:47:38] required matching funds to be
[2:47:40] used to purchase equipment and
[2:47:40] supplies used in programs
[2:47:43] designed to prevent, respond to
[2:47:45] and reduce violence and gun
[2:47:50] crimes.
[2:47:54] their motion moved to approve
[2:47:55] motion made to approve and
[2:47:57] seconded council member grant.
[2:47:59] >> yeah I would just like to ex
[2:48:01] chief no well you can take a
[2:48:02] moment and just kind of go into
[2:48:05] brief detail in terms of what
[2:48:09] this grant is on the city.
[2:48:10] we aren't matching these
[2:48:10] dollars right.
[2:48:12] this is a grant tennessee
[2:48:13] office of criminal justice
[2:48:17] program so it's unmatched funds
[2:48:17] .
[2:48:18] but could you briefly go into
[2:48:19] detail in terms of what we will
[2:48:21] utilize these funds for sure.
[2:48:23] >> yeah, this is a project safe
[2:48:24] neighborhood grant which is a
[2:48:25] grant that is traditionally
[2:48:28] used to combat violence,
[2:48:29] particularly gun violence.
[2:48:32] no local match we're going to
[2:48:33] request to use this on for dna
[2:48:36] testing specifically for all
[2:48:37] firearms like the swab a
[2:48:40] firearm and I'll get that dna
[2:48:41] testing done to help us either
[2:48:44] eliminate potential suspects or
[2:48:47] confirm suspects involved
[2:48:47] violent crimes.
[2:48:50] >> thank you.
[2:48:55] council member pirker um, thank
[2:48:58] you.
[2:49:03] um, so for this grant you will
[2:49:06] use it for success for testing
[2:49:06] services.
[2:49:10] no equipment will be purchased
[2:49:10] .
[2:49:11] no, our intention is to use
[2:49:14] this for dna testing for for
[2:49:15] firearms to get those those
[2:49:21] test process processed.
[2:49:25] uh, I'm sure I'm curious.
[2:49:26] it's described as equipment and
[2:49:32] supplies.
[2:49:36] I'm not sure what we're going
[2:49:37] to apply for is to do dna
[2:49:40] testing through rapid dna
[2:49:43] is what we're going to do.
[2:49:44] um, is there a reason that
[2:49:47] those descript shems when you
[2:49:51] are applying for dna testing
[2:49:52] just don't just say dna testing
[2:49:53] rather than equipment and
[2:49:55] supplies?
[2:49:56] >> I'm not exactly sure how
[2:50:00] that language was formulated.
[2:50:01] >> I'm not trying to be
[2:50:01] evasive.
[2:50:02] I just don't know that that
[2:50:04] language from paper it comes
[2:50:04] from the lab.
[2:50:06] >> it may have come from one
[2:50:08] of our staff but I'm not saying
[2:50:08] it doesn't come from outside
[2:50:09] this.
[2:50:11] >> I just don't know.
[2:50:12] >> yeah, it just would be great
[2:50:13] for transparency purposes for
[2:50:14] the public.
[2:50:15] >> it's probably just mirroring
[2:50:18] the the probably the subject on
[2:50:19] in the grant.
[2:50:20] >> I'm sure that's what it is.
[2:50:20] yeah.
[2:50:23] um any effort we can make to be
[2:50:26] more transpac in that
[2:50:27] description.
[2:50:27] sure.
[2:50:30] because that's all these
[2:50:31] conversations are about.
[2:50:32] that's the only reason we pull
[2:50:34] it off with the consent agenda
[2:50:35] is to know what equipment and
[2:50:35] services are.
[2:50:38] >> some of the challenges that
[2:50:39] we're having with the grants
[2:50:40] right now is that you know,
[2:50:43] normally what happens with
[2:50:43] these grants is they they drop
[2:50:46] in a set period every year.
[2:50:47] they have some time to drop it
[2:50:48] really fast and right now the
[2:50:51] turnaround times were really
[2:50:51] quick.
[2:50:54] so the deadline descried just
[2:50:55] right not long ago.
[2:50:56] the deadline for us to apply
[2:50:56] is on friday.
[2:50:58] so our great team is really
[2:50:59] scrambling.
[2:51:00] so the grant world over the
[2:51:02] last year, two years or so has
[2:51:06] shifted shifted dramatically.
[2:51:07] so that's why like with the
[2:51:08] packard that was not a lot
[2:51:11] of documents with it because
[2:51:12] it's like a great team is not
[2:51:13] put it together yet.
[2:51:14] we'll probably be following
[2:51:15] this grant like probably like
[2:51:17] within hours before the
[2:51:18] deadline and it'll get a little
[2:51:19] bit dropped.
[2:51:19] >> ok, thank you.
[2:51:21] that's helpful.
[2:51:26] all those in favor please say
[2:51:27] oh council members grant was
[2:51:29] ready ok all those in favor
[2:51:31] please say I and he opposed
[2:51:36] motion carries 13 s is an
[2:51:40] ordinance to amend the knox
[2:51:40] city could be zoning
[2:51:43] code article 15 section fifteen
[2:51:44] point to point b published
[2:51:45] notice to align noticing
[2:51:47] requirements with recent state
[2:51:48] law changes city of knoxville
[2:51:51] applicant all districts most
[2:51:52] major proven fact that any
[2:51:56] questions or discussion seeing
[2:51:57] none all those in favor please
[2:51:59] say I indya oppose motion
[2:52:04] carries 13 t is an ordinance to
[2:52:05] close an unnamed alley near
[2:52:07] nineteen oh two forrest avenue
[2:52:08] lying within city block one
[2:52:11] zero zero eight five running
[2:52:12] between nineteenth street and
[2:52:12] twentieth street and
[2:52:13] authorizing the mayor to
[2:52:16] execute quitclaim deeds to
[2:52:16] address and property owners
[2:52:20] first district move to approve
[2:52:21] motion made to approve and
[2:52:23] seconded any questions are can
[2:52:24] I mean council member adams?
[2:52:25] yeah I would like to make a few
[2:52:26] comments.
[2:52:27] I know you're thrilled about
[2:52:28] that everybody.
[2:52:31] um but this is an important
[2:52:31] issue.
[2:52:35] it's a big um proposal that
[2:52:35] will be coming through even
[2:52:38] though it seems like a small
[2:52:39] thing because it's an alley.
[2:52:40] I just want to put on the
[2:52:42] record that I am not for alley
[2:52:42] closures.
[2:52:46] they are very important for
[2:52:47] pedestrian right of ways and
[2:52:49] the fabric of the city,
[2:52:50] particularly the traditional
[2:52:54] grid and so I don't take these
[2:52:54] lightly.
[2:52:55] I've had many conversations
[2:52:58] with mr. Mullins with planning
[2:53:01] and with others in the city
[2:53:01] trying to see is there any way
[2:53:04] around that we don't have to
[2:53:04] close this.
[2:53:06] um, currently if you went to
[2:53:09] the site you would not say oh
[2:53:09] that's an alley.
[2:53:10] you would say oh that's a
[2:53:12] surface parking lot.
[2:53:15] so it's not currently serving
[2:53:16] in the capacity that that I
[2:53:19] feel strongly about.
[2:53:20] the other thing is that while
[2:53:23] this is just about an alley
[2:53:24] closure, looking at the entire
[2:53:28] case, the the zoning by right
[2:53:30] allows for pretty pretty
[2:53:34] intense buildings there and
[2:53:35] that is like I said by right.
[2:53:39] um so I recognize the great
[2:53:40] need for housing uh
[2:53:43] particularly for students just
[2:53:47] in the past um, two weeks I've
[2:53:48] received messages from students
[2:53:51] saying I'm having to drive
[2:53:52] twenty or thirty minutes to get
[2:53:54] to campus because I can't
[2:53:54] afford to live there.
[2:53:55] so I understand the housing
[2:53:57] needs and that this is an
[2:53:58] opportunity to help to help
[2:53:59] with this.
[2:54:02] but again I just wanted to say
[2:54:05] that um I do have concerns
[2:54:06] about closing alleys.
[2:54:09] I wouldn't do this any place
[2:54:09] but understanding that this
[2:54:12] is a block and we did talk
[2:54:13] about other options um but
[2:54:34] really didn't work out so well
[2:54:34] here.
[2:54:35] >> that's why I'm supporting
[2:54:36] this council member thomas.
[2:54:36] yeah.
[2:54:37] I just want to add I'm glad
[2:54:38] that you had that discussion
[2:54:39] about that because on the
[2:54:39] previous council we did have a
[2:54:40] discussion about how we were
[2:54:41] possibly rubber stamping to
[2:54:41] some degree the alley closures
[2:54:42] and then after some discussion,
[2:54:43] you know, there's some
[2:54:43] opportunity there on some
[2:54:44] of them so we should scrutinize
[2:54:44] them.
[2:54:45] I had a similar situation where
[2:54:47] in lonsdale it looked like an
[2:54:48] alley closure would actually
[2:54:49] impede the possibility of a
[2:54:52] future green way.
[2:54:53] and we went out and miss ellie
[2:54:55] and the developer and we spent
[2:54:56] a particular quite a bit
[2:54:59] of time on it and we found out
[2:55:02] that actually the alley closer
[2:55:03] was justified because the
[2:55:06] potential for a greenway wasn't
[2:55:07] really there as it was on first
[2:55:08] blush.
[2:55:11] so I had a particular situation
[2:55:12] where I scrutinized it and it
[2:55:15] found out yeah, ok, this
[2:55:16] is we're not giving up city
[2:55:19] property or we're not giving up
[2:55:20] a significant right to the
[2:55:22] public but I applaud you for
[2:55:23] discussing that because any
[2:55:26] time we close these alleys or
[2:55:27] things like that, we're
[2:55:29] actually giving up public
[2:55:30] property so they've got
[2:55:34] criteria most of the time
[2:55:34] they're right.
[2:55:35] but that doesn't mean as far as
[2:55:38] closing these alleys but that
[2:55:38] doesn't mean that we shouldn't,
[2:55:40] you know, keep an eye on it
[2:55:42] because it is public property
[2:55:43] and we lose it if we don't be
[2:55:46] mindful.
[2:55:46] >> thank you.
[2:55:47] thanks.
[2:55:47] I have one other question.
[2:55:50] this is for mr. Mullins comment
[2:55:50] .
[2:55:50] really?
[2:55:52] yeah, I signed up to speak but
[2:55:53] please it's late.
[2:55:57] yeah, I was one of the things
[2:56:01] that we exchanged when we were
[2:56:02] talking about this was
[2:56:02] improvements to the sidewalks
[2:56:05] that would be made to help with
[2:56:06] some of the pedestrian access
[2:56:08] that we'd be losing.
[2:56:09] but another item was that there
[2:56:12] is proposed and interior green
[2:56:13] space for this potential
[2:56:14] development.
[2:56:17] yeah, and we had some emails
[2:56:18] about that today and I
[2:56:19] appreciate you know, we asked
[2:56:20] to postpone for two weeks.
[2:56:21] give us more time of course
[2:56:22] that two weeks also includes
[2:56:23] spring break and I had a three
[2:56:24] trial so we really haven't been
[2:56:25] able to engage on it quite as
[2:56:28] much as I'd hoped we had.
[2:56:29] and so I would you know, this
[2:56:30] is first reading I think there
[2:56:32] has to be a second and I think
[2:56:33] between now and then I think
[2:56:34] we'd want to have some more
[2:56:36] conversations to address that
[2:56:37] but that you'll see on the
[2:56:40] plans there's that western side
[2:56:41] where there's some parking and
[2:56:43] there's some greenery and
[2:56:44] that's the area that's going to
[2:56:44] be kind of open more to the
[2:56:47] public at central to the fact
[2:56:48] that it's kind of central to
[2:56:49] the building itself but it's
[2:56:51] kind of off center because it's
[2:56:51] on the western side.
[2:56:52] it's not the interior courtyard
[2:56:55] area.
[2:56:56] that's where the pool is that's
[2:56:56] not going to be open to the
[2:56:57] public.
[2:56:59] so that's what we proposed.
[2:57:00] but I've got mr. Mr. Harris
[2:57:00] here.
[2:57:03] he's the developer nottoway and
[2:57:04] mr. Cohen talked with you know,
[2:57:07] we're not set in concrete and
[2:57:08] all this we still have
[2:57:10] opportunities to tweak some
[2:57:11] things if there's things that
[2:57:11] you specifically have in mind,
[2:57:14] we're open continuing to have
[2:57:14] that conversation.
[2:57:16] yeah, I think just to say this
[2:57:18] for the period between now and
[2:57:19] next reading is that that
[2:57:22] public access is really
[2:57:23] important and making it be a
[2:57:26] part of the community, not a
[2:57:27] monolith that is saying you're
[2:57:27] not welcome here.
[2:57:34] so that's that's all ok, thing
[2:57:35] no further limits on all those
[2:57:37] in favor please say I opposed
[2:57:37] the motion carries.
[2:57:41] thank you all very much.
[2:57:42] uh, now we'll move on to public
[2:57:42] forum.
[2:57:45] we have six people lined up to
[2:57:46] speak at public forum.
[2:57:47] they'll each have up to three
[2:57:49] minutes to address council.
[2:58:07] first is vivian qype misshape
[2:58:08] vivian qype thirty six fifteen
[2:58:11] mlk knoxville three seven nine
[2:58:15] one for some would say that
[2:58:18] winter is back but we know
[2:58:22] winter never left.
[2:58:26] what has been left are the
[2:58:29] housed left out of planning
[2:58:31] left out of planning for safety
[2:58:34] and lodging against the
[2:58:38] elements tonight it will be a
[2:58:41] cold cold twenty six degrees
[2:58:42] relaunch is gone and there's no
[2:58:45] room than had we passed
[2:58:49] parker's second resolution we
[2:58:53] would at least be on our way to
[2:58:54] discussing a fix instead we are
[2:58:57] two years away from a solution.
[2:58:58] how many will die in the next
[2:59:01] two years?
[2:59:05] how many we discuss and debate
[2:59:05] into early graves.
[2:59:08] bring back the parker
[2:59:09] resolution, open temporary
[2:59:13] emergency shelters.
[2:59:16] we say we are a sanctuary city
[2:59:16] .
[2:59:20] let's act like it.
[2:59:21] next person signed up to speak
[2:59:24] is sumika elliot sumika.
[2:59:28] elliot, if you could come to
[2:59:29] him said your name and address
[2:59:29] for the record you'll have up
[2:59:30] to three minutes to address
[2:59:32] council.
[2:59:33] >> hello my name is famiglia
[2:59:36] elliot two nine zero four
[2:59:36] tazewell pike three seven eight
[2:59:39] one eight good evening council.
[2:59:40] my name is tamika elliot
[2:59:43] ahmadullah community health
[2:59:44] worker founder of a lotus
[2:59:44] program experience.
[2:59:47] I'm here alongside of my
[2:59:48] community partner in our
[2:59:51] absence alexis alsup of empower
[2:59:52] dulin midwifery services.
[2:59:54] together we have coulier in
[2:59:55] knoxville black maternal health
[2:59:55] conference and initialing for
[2:59:58] the past three years of free
[2:59:59] community centered events focus
[3:00:02] on advancing awareness
[3:00:02] education in action around
[3:00:03] maternal health care in east
[3:00:06] tennessee with the official
[3:00:07] city proclamation locally
[3:00:10] recognizing the week in 2020 to
[3:00:11] what started as a one day
[3:00:14] conference has now grown into
[3:00:15] something much bigger in
[3:00:17] twenty twenty six this year we
[3:00:18] are launching knoxville's the
[3:00:18] first official black maternal
[3:00:21] health week taking place april
[3:00:22] 11th through the 17th a full
[3:00:25] free week of programing that
[3:00:26] uplifts local birth workers,
[3:00:26] health care professionals,
[3:00:29] researchers, families.
[3:00:30] this expansion reflects both
[3:00:33] the urgency of the issue and
[3:00:34] the strength of community
[3:00:34] demand over the past three
[3:00:37] years we've created a space
[3:00:38] where honest conversations can
[3:00:41] happen in public health where
[3:00:42] family share lived experiences,
[3:00:42] providers deepen their
[3:00:45] understanding of culturally
[3:00:46] compensate comprehensive care
[3:00:49] and doulas birth workers and
[3:00:50] health professionals are
[3:00:50] recognized as essential leaders
[3:00:53] in improving health outcomes
[3:00:54] and this work is fairly
[3:00:54] critical.
[3:00:57] tennessee currently takes 40
[3:00:58] days in the national in the
[3:00:59] nation excuse me for maternal
[3:01:01] mortality with rate
[3:01:02] significantly higher than the
[3:01:05] national average as tennessee
[3:01:06] has a seat on our maternal
[3:01:09] health report card, we also
[3:01:10] continue to see elevated rates
[3:01:10] of preterm birth and infant
[3:01:13] mortality outcomes that
[3:01:14] disproportionately impact black
[3:01:17] families and rural communities
[3:01:17] across our great state.
[3:01:18] these are not just statistics.
[3:01:21] these are families in our
[3:01:22] communities that we serve what
[3:01:24] we are building through black
[3:01:25] maternal health week is a
[3:01:25] community driven response.
[3:01:28] we educate by making maternal
[3:01:29] health information accessible
[3:01:32] and culturally relevant.
[3:01:33] we advocate by lifting the
[3:01:34] voices of families and birth
[3:01:36] workers and we connect
[3:01:37] resources to ensure better
[3:01:37] outcomes for mothers, babies
[3:01:40] and families.
[3:01:41] some of this work has been
[3:01:42] supported in part by myself
[3:01:45] investment, mutual aid and
[3:01:45] knoxville's two or two funds
[3:01:48] which we are deeply grateful
[3:01:49] for that investment.
[3:01:49] thank you councilwoman parker.
[3:01:51] councilman mckenzie, previous
[3:01:52] councilwoman same councilman
[3:01:55] thomas and councilman roberto.
[3:01:57] however, as we expand into a
[3:02:00] full week of programing we are
[3:02:01] seeking additional support to
[3:02:04] ensure this initiative remains
[3:02:05] free, accessible and impactful
[3:02:08] for our community because we
[3:02:09] invest in maternal health care
[3:02:09] that is community base.
[3:02:11] we also invest in the health
[3:02:12] care of our community.
[3:02:13] thank you for your time,
[3:02:15] leadership and consideration.
[3:02:16] I do have a couple of fliers if
[3:02:20] somebody could help me pass
[3:02:20] these out and around I have
[3:02:21] emailed all of you a copy
[3:02:27] of them as well and you all are
[3:02:31] invited so please come and show
[3:02:31] up.
[3:02:32] all of your constituents will
[3:02:32] be there.
[3:02:33] thanks.
[3:02:37] thank you.
[3:02:38] thank you.
[3:02:38] council member debartolo one
[3:02:41] for sharing those documents.
[3:02:45] >> next is alexis alsup.
[3:02:46] she's with you ok and she
[3:02:49] doesn't want to speak or she's
[3:02:50] not here.
[3:03:00] ok, cantillano thanks.
[3:03:04] yeah again campanello three one
[3:03:07] one w glenwood avenue I'm not
[3:03:08] going to read this whole thing
[3:03:11] here because previous
[3:03:12] conversation about your how
[3:03:16] park I just remind you of the
[3:03:16] sierra club participated in the
[3:03:19] movement to save show how apart
[3:03:23] from being sold and now there's
[3:03:24] a new process with a community
[3:03:28] advisory being formed but the
[3:03:30] group selection on this process
[3:03:31] and the mayor handpicked the
[3:03:34] members and bypassed community
[3:03:35] of voices.
[3:03:36] now I know that's kind of been
[3:03:38] the usual practice in other
[3:03:39] areas but this given the
[3:03:43] history is a really bad idea
[3:03:43] now the process is incomplete.
[3:03:47] we need to add to the list
[3:03:48] where are the advocates for
[3:03:51] rally for kilauea, the city
[3:03:51] council movement, sierra club
[3:03:54] neighborhood groups like town
[3:03:55] hall e, other neighborhood
[3:03:58] groups around holiway park.
[3:03:59] if we want to collaborate and
[3:04:00] create peace between former
[3:04:03] contenders, why wait the
[3:04:03] advisory group so heavily
[3:04:05] toward one side?
[3:04:06] councilman grant ask for
[3:04:09] community members willing to
[3:04:09] participate.
[3:04:10] I'd put myself forward.
[3:04:11] I wanted to make sure the
[3:04:13] environmental principles the
[3:04:14] community had originally
[3:04:17] advanced had a proper place
[3:04:17] development process.
[3:04:19] after all, this administration
[3:04:22] ran an environmental program I
[3:04:22] didn't think the mayor needed
[3:04:26] necessarily to pick me but I
[3:04:27] was shocked that practically
[3:04:27] none of the people who had
[3:04:30] spoken had been selected
[3:04:30] virtually to a person.
[3:04:33] those community members have
[3:04:34] insisted that the park doesn't
[3:04:54] belong to any one neighborhood
[3:04:55] demographic or class.
[3:04:56] it's for all of us and it's to
[3:04:57] be shared with the world but to
[3:04:58] develop it right we need to
[3:04:59] bring together the voices who
[3:04:59] have spoken out to protect the
[3:05:00] park without excluding those
[3:05:01] who work towards selling it.
[3:05:02] so far we haven't done so and
[3:05:02] it needs to be fixed.
[3:05:03] we need more than the voices
[3:05:04] of established insiders.
[3:05:04] we need strong voices
[3:05:04] supporting environmental
[3:05:05] protection.
[3:05:06] we need voices who are aware
[3:05:06] of the park's history.
[3:05:07] we need people who understand
[3:05:08] the black communities fear
[3:05:08] of marginalization and
[3:05:09] displaced.
[3:05:09] we need advocates for
[3:05:10] development who insist that it
[3:05:12] be sustainable and economically
[3:05:13] just new city council members
[3:05:16] have already developed a
[3:05:17] reputation for independence
[3:05:17] of thought.
[3:05:21] please press the mayor and city
[3:05:21] council to create an advisory
[3:05:24] group and I notice you already
[3:05:25] done this that contains the
[3:05:27] contending elements from the
[3:05:28] debate and instructs them to
[3:05:31] develop trust and collaboration
[3:05:32] with each other so we get a
[3:05:33] plan the whole city can be
[3:05:36] proud of.
[3:05:36] >> thanks so much.
[3:05:40] next person is the best can
[3:05:41] state your name and address for
[3:05:44] the record and you'll have up
[3:05:44] to three minutes.
[3:05:47] >> yes, my name is eddie debusk
[3:05:48] .
[3:05:49] I live at fifty eight twelve
[3:05:49] grove drive here in knoxville,
[3:05:50] tennessee.
[3:05:52] the essence of this message
[3:05:53] needs the following background
[3:05:55] information before our
[3:05:56] attendance to the knox county
[3:05:59] commission meeting on thursday
[3:06:00] february the 25th 2026 my
[3:06:01] brother and I witnessed a
[3:06:04] decorative hardhat and small
[3:06:04] backpack fall from a motorcycle
[3:06:07] at the intersection
[3:06:08] of washington park and north
[3:06:11] molle road as the cyclist
[3:06:12] proceeded west to the entrance
[3:06:13] ramp of about 640 westbound.
[3:06:16] for the record, the cyclist had
[3:06:16] the green light at the
[3:06:19] westbound intersection and was
[3:06:20] not speeding and we were
[3:06:22] stopped at the southbound red
[3:06:23] at washington park.
[3:06:24] additionally, the cyclist
[3:06:27] proceeded on his or her journey
[3:06:28] and did not stop in a safe
[3:06:30] manner.
[3:06:31] we retrieved the following
[3:06:32] items from the street and found
[3:06:34] our way to knoxville city
[3:06:38] council city county building to
[3:06:39] attend the scheduled knox
[3:06:39] county commission meeting at
[3:06:42] which time we met two state
[3:06:43] police officers that were
[3:06:45] stationed on the porch of a
[3:06:46] knox county old courthouse as
[3:06:47] we approached the
[3:06:50] aforementioned officers we told
[3:06:51] them of our retrieval of the
[3:06:54] aforementioned items in
[3:06:54] question and asked for guidance
[3:06:55] as to how to surrender.
[3:06:57] they found that I understood
[3:06:58] the proper authorities at which
[3:06:59] time they told us to take the
[3:07:02] the items to the public safety
[3:07:05] complex at huron street as we
[3:07:08] approach the aforementioned as
[3:07:09] we attended the aforementioned
[3:07:12] county commission meeting we
[3:07:13] went to the public after the
[3:07:14] meeting rather we went to the
[3:07:17] public safety complex to
[3:07:18] surrender the stated items in
[3:07:21] question and learned that the
[3:07:21] items needed to be surrendered
[3:07:22] during the regular business
[3:07:25] hours as our schedules did not
[3:07:26] coincide with the regular
[3:07:28] business hours the public
[3:07:28] safety complex on friday
[3:07:32] february the twenty six 2026
[3:07:33] the items in question were not
[3:07:36] returned on february 26, 2012
[3:07:37] six while running errands on
[3:07:40] saturday february the
[3:07:41] twenty seven 2026 I noticed two
[3:07:45] city police cars parked at the
[3:07:46] parking lot at the intersection
[3:07:47] of metal springs mineral
[3:07:48] springs road and walker
[3:07:49] boulevard at which time I
[3:07:52] parked my car the parking lot
[3:07:53] to speak to the officers about
[3:07:56] what I have conveyed here in in
[3:07:57] response to my story they asked
[3:08:00] me about the current location
[3:08:04] of the following items at which
[3:08:05] time I opened the trunk of my
[3:08:07] car and presented them with the
[3:08:07] articles in question in
[3:08:08] conjunction with our
[3:08:10] conversation the officers
[3:08:11] carefully examined the items at
[3:08:12] which time one of the officers
[3:08:15] linked the findings to the
[3:08:16] madisonville police department
[3:08:19] at the conclusion of my time
[3:08:20] with these two officers they
[3:08:22] took the items in question with
[3:08:23] them so that the items could be
[3:08:26] dispositioned accordingly.
[3:08:27] in summary, my message via this
[3:08:28] communication to the knoxville
[3:08:31] city council anti-american can
[3:08:31] and is simple.
[3:08:34] I was impressed with officer
[3:08:35] kincannon and officer eubanks
[3:08:37] on february 27 twenty twenty
[3:08:38] six at which time they conveyed
[3:08:41] and is conveyed in this message
[3:08:42] .
[3:08:42] these two officers have
[3:08:43] excellent people skills in
[3:08:46] their interaction with the
[3:08:46] public and in my opinion are
[3:08:47] valuable assets to the
[3:08:50] knoxville police department.
[3:08:51] to that end it is obvious to me
[3:08:54] that knoxville police chief
[3:08:54] knowles selection process for
[3:08:55] police officers to providing
[3:08:58] officers that care about the
[3:08:59] public that they are protected.
[3:09:04] sir, thank thank you, mr. Tyvi
[3:09:05] last person signed up to speak
[3:09:08] is mary ann garner.
[3:09:12] uh, apparently she is nola ok
[3:09:15] council members that includes
[3:09:16] public forum and without
[3:09:17] objection this meeting
[3:09:53] is adjourned and