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I'm calling the regular meeting of the
laab height

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City I'm
hello we're calling to order the regular

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meeting of the laab height city council
August 12

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2004 Mr
PPA here Mr Bergman here Mr ly here Mr

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coula here and anglehart is here
C Howen would you lead us in the flag

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salute

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please Al to the flag of the United
States of America to The Republic stands

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one nation under God indivisible with
liy and justice for all

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at this point we're going to

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advance two items items 15 and
16 these both deal with our trash

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service which is very very important and
affects every single person in the

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Heights and before this I start I just
want to um say that Brian Bergman and

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Dennis lar spent a great deal of time on
on this and uh we're residents we're

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trying to do a good job they have really
uh worked on this and so we'll go first

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with item
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Mr thank you FD thank you mayor I just
want to introduce um our special City

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Attorney Patrick Munos this grace is
working thank you uh

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can you hear that better there we can
hear a little better now that's a little

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better now all right thank you mayor and
council members um we have been uh going

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through a couple of items here related
to the hauling of refuges um in the city

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uh we have been working with our city
attorney's office ran and Tucker um

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we're very fortunate through their
offices to have uh Patrick Munos with us

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um who is an expert in the field and
he'll be talking a little bit about the

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items
tonight thank you uh good evening Miss

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mayor and members of the council uh the
the first item on your uh uh Advanced

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agenda item number 15 deals with um the
balance of your uh Solid Waste agreement

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with Republic
Services uh the as set forth in the

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staff report the uh agreement with
Republic expired in May of

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2022 uh we've been uh operating on a uh
extension since that time the extensions

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expired and we went to a month-to-month
uh service with them

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uh they have agreed to continue to
provide services until October 1st uh

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one of the conditions of their agreeing
to do so was to have um what we refer to

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as an extraordinary cost adjustment this
year instead of the standard uh CPI

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increase they asked for a 10% increase
to cover uh some of the costs that

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they're incurring that were not uh
covered under the terms of the agreement

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so in essence what we're asking for on
item 15 is a motion to ratify by uh a

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10% uh increase to the rates that
Republic uh would be otherwise charging

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between July 1 and October

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1st are there any questions of Mr

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Munoz is there any public

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comment I return it to the council may I
have a motion I'll make a motion to move

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approval on item 15 for the 10% rate
increase it'll just take them through

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October 1st of this year
second Mr Zula yes Mr PPA yes Mr lar yes

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Mr Bergman yes and I'm a yes item

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16 going
forward thank you mayor and Council U

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this item is dealing with moving forward
with Trash Services uh in the har

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Heights um we have been gone through an
extensive process um with a subcommittee

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from City Council made up of council
members um larity and Bergman who worked

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with staff and Mr Munoz to go through a
very ex extensive and exhaustive process

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related to um a new agreement with a new
trash hauler that will come in and

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provide Refuge services for the city and
then I'll hand it over to Mr Munos and

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he can give you kind of a quick summary
as to where where we were and where

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we've made it to
thank you again

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um uh as um Mr uh wridge indicated the
uh Council subcommittee along with staff

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and our office went through a process
where we started Cons with consideration

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of six companies narrowed that down to
three companies that we received

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proposals from
um of the um three proposals uh where

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disposal Incorporated uh ultimately was
determined to to have not only

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objectively the most competitive price
uh proposal but the committee felt as

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though it provided the best value uh an
overall uh service propos that was being

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proposed um the staff report provides a
high level summary and I I won't just

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repeat what's in there but I think it's
important to bear in mind that the staff

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report is just a summary and that we'll
be bringing back a uh an extensive

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franchise agreement um that will have
all of the deal points uh spelled out

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and nailed down I think residents should
uh know that um this might be um a gross

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generalization but if it's if there's a
service that's currently being provided

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by Republic it will also be provided um
in the new franchise with wear disposal

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so things like um Christmas tree
recycling quarterly cleanups uh bulky

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item service things along those lines
that were not touched upon in the staff

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report that currently exist will
continue to exist the difference uh in

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my view is going to be a much more um
economical uh Service uh that's being

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provided um there for instance will no
longer be charges for burough Services

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uh for streets that are difficult for
standard-sized trash trucks to navigate

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um uh there are some residents that are
the top of steep driveways that need

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what's referred to in the industry as
Scout Service uh we're going to Pro

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provide a provision that will allow for
sharing of the cost for scout Services

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uh for um residents that are clustered
at the top of a of a steep driveway uh

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as I was describing um there's a
provision that was proposed that after

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the first 90 days where we'll uh come
back with a proposal to figure out how

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to save residents more money if there
are Services being provided that aren't

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as efficient as they could be if there's
other services that could be provided

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that would result in cost savings that's
something that we'll be re-evaluating

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after the first 90 days um where we'll
be providing uh all of the services that

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the city needs under a new state law
known as s SP 1383 it's a very

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significant uh um benefit that the city
will be receiving there are very um

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specific and detailed reporting
requirements um requirements for

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monitoring uh waste that's disposed of
in the very ious containers that will be

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uh placed out for residents to use uh
route auditing requirements a lot of

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expense involved in all that that where
will be taking on for the city and while

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the city does have a waiver for SP sp1
1383 for the next couple of years that

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waiver will expire and so we'll be well
positioned to be in compliance with the

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law at that time and understand that
there's a $10,000 a day potential

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penalty if the city's not in compliance
so um I think the proposal you have uh

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will have a a very significant benefit
uh from from a legal compliance

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standpoint um those are the highlights
of the contract I'm and the proposal I'm

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very happy to answer questions if
anybody has

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any are there any questions of Mr

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Munoz I have a couple of questions sure
all right so um I know this is in the

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staff report but for the people so what
will be the base cost for the typical

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residents if the base cost will be $32
.98 a month um and as I mentioned in my

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opening comments uh there's a lot of uh
residents who receive something called

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burrow service right now uh the burough
service will be eliminated so anybody

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that's paying both the base cost for
Republic plus a burough service charge

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going forward will only pay the base uh
service charge which is the 32.98

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correct and then if you have a long
driveway or uh the trash is picked up at

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at your
house instead of at the street right how

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is that so that's referred to as carry
out service or sometimes as Scout

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Service uh the charge for that is an
additional $54 in change I apologize I

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don't remember the exact number 5444 if
I remember correctly um and as I

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mentioned if there are a number of
Neighbors at the end of that same

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driveway they'll be able to share that
$54 um on a prata

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basis and the um
where will be providing the same 96

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gallon three
containers that we have now that's

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correct you'll have one container for
refuse one for recyclables and one for

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um organic waste or green waste the one
exception is that wear has offered a 10%

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discount uh to seniors or disabled
customers uh who aren't generating as

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much waste and can use smaller size
containers and then you you did indicate

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that you reached out several different
haulers were contacted by I guess you or

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the
committee and one of those was Republic

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and for the longtime residence one was
hallay hallay and Republic both

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indicated that they were not interested
in um participating in this process and

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then the ones you did speak with um they
submitted competitive sealed bids or

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whatever however that worked it it
wasn't a super formal process um with

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sealed bids and that sort of thing
although we tried to keep them

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confidential just to keep the process
Fair um so we we received three

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different proposals one from Edco
disposal one from Valley Vista services

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and one from we disposal Inc um they all
had um strengths uh that we had to

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compare with each other or against each
other I should say to determine what

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what the committee felt was the best
value from a price standpoint as I

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mentioned the wear proposal was clearly
you know the the lower number and then

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as we went through and talked about the
type of equipment that would be used um

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the customer service Provisions the
transition services that would have to

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occur the committee felt comfortable
that we provided both the the lowest

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price and the best

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value that's all the questions I have at
this point

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I do have a card from Mr we so I guess
I'll open it to public comment unless oh

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does anybody else in the council have
questions Mr P I'm sorry Mr where Mr

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PPA so um on I was reading through staff
notes and also the agreement

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um and you mentioned the the Scout
service which is kind of the service

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where um if you want our I think you
call maybe valet service which is where

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if you don't want to bring your trash
cans out they'll come up and get them

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um we in here notice there's a senior
disabled option for that so there's um

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two different things we're talking about
here valet service refers to if you keep

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your trash cans in your backyard behind
a gate right um then the huler will go

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behind the gate get the trash cans and
bring them out to the place where

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they're disposed of and that would apply
whether uh your residence is structured

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or or situated to where you could put
your your uh carts out on the curb or if

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you're at the end of one of those long
driveways so for those um residents in

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need where has offered to provide that
valet service at no charge Scout service

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is unique to very very long driveways
steep driveways unusual circumstances

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where the curb is not being used as the
as the I just want to confirm the valet

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service will be at no charge that's
correct and where will determine whether

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or
not I mean it'll an objective standard

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got it people who

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qualify thank you are there any other
questions did the two members of the

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committee wish
to say anything at this point or we'll

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invite Mr wear to come
up I just I'll comment a little bit uh I

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thought the process went extremely well
and it was uh you know we worked as a

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team and inter interviewed as a team and
asked a lot of questions and it uh it

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was uh really good to get all the
information from the

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haulers and I thought it worked uh very
well we got a very good process with the

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whole thing and we were able to uh
really crunch the numbers and look at uh

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what worked and what didn't work in the
past and we're doing whatever we can to

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make this transition this fall as
seamless as Pro possible

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Mr wear is here from the company and uh
he he understands that uh we had some

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issues with the transition in the past
and that uh we're going to work real

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hard to make this happen and so it's
eliminate any pain supposedly for all

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the residents uh when that occurs but Mr
wear can speak to that when he comes up

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but I thought it went very well and want
to thank all the team members

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yeah I understand that this was the
first uh process of looking at trash

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haulers with the assistance of uh an
attorney who specializes in

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trash this this aspect of trash and uh
it really to me added an important

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Dimension that uh would have been
missing otherwise uh especially in

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regards to customer service I think
there was uh considerable time spent on

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customer service
uh not as an afterthought but as the

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discussions went on with all three
haulers uh really focusing on customer

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service and the responses uh from where
people uh really spoke to that in a very

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favorable way in a way that uh it seemed
that there was considerable sensitivity

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to the needs of our community uh but
also uh knowing that Mr Munoz is

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available uh down the road uh to uh take
any comments that we might have as a

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council or needs in the community to uh
speak to customer service if there's any

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complications any difficulties uh that
uh he he's there and uh available to us

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and I I just think that that to me firms
up any agreement uh firms up the offer

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of customer service uh that it it
certainly will come through and I guess

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I certainly don't have any question
about that happening on the basis of the

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discussion on the basis of Mr munoz's
involvement and just uh where we are

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today with with where and I think it's a
great

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decision okay Mr

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wear perhaps you could give us just a
tiny bit of the background of your

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company and then
whatever you'd like to present

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absolutely
absolutely uh Madame mayor council

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members my name is Jay wear I'm the
general manager of we disposal I uh

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stand in Fr you tonight thanking you for
your consideration uh and thanking the

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committee for its
recommendation uh my company is uh

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started by my parents in
1968 uh we are a full Solid Waste

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Service Company we have uh over 250
trucks operating in the Southern

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California area um across San Diego Los
Angeles and Orange County um we are

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looking forward to providing uh the
services uh to the city and as you've

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heard tonight the committee was very
much focused on uh community service and

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customer service and those are my
biggest um uh focuses for your city one

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transitioning out the city in a smooth
and effortless uh and seamless

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transition and secondly to make sure
that your city is serviced my customer

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service team along with my operations
team who I have here tonight actually I

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have Mr Manny Gonzalez and I have also
miss Leah Ding and ranr all very much uh

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prepared to uh involve and invest
theirselves um fully to customer

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services within this city um and with
that said uh I believe that I can answer

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any of your questions if you have
any I guess it's a little unusual but

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are there any questions Mr we by any of
the council

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members no I guess not fantastic thank
you look forward to your consideration

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thank Youk you and your team for
coming well we'll close the hearing

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then may I have a

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motion is there any additional public
comment I thought I asked I'm

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sorry all right back back to the council
then is May I have a

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motion I'll make a motion to select uh
where disposal to enter into a new

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franchise agreement for collection and
processing a solid waste including

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compliance with the state mandated
organic Recycling and related

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services and direct the City attorney to
prepare a franchise agreement for a

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10-year period beginning October 1st
2024 with the option of two one-year

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extensions and return to the council for
its uh approval of such

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franchise a
second is there any

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discussion um just briefly I just want
to basically thank uh the uh uh Dennis

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and Brian for their hard work on this
they address a number of my concerns I

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had with the uh current uh uh waste
huler and I appreciate it especially

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your concentration on the fact that we
have responsibility to to do our best

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for the for the uh residents not simply
for the city as a whole but for the

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residents individually thank you very

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much okay U Mr
Bergman yes Mr larity yes Mr PPA yes Mr

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Zuli yes and Englehart is a yes thank
you Mr Munoz and thank you Mr

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wear okay back to our
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one card from Rick

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Brooks good

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evening Brooks Skyline Drive um I want
to start by thanking the volunteers that

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came out a couple of weeks ago and
helped pick up trash I really appreciate

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that there are other people in the
community that actually care about what

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our city looks like I also want to thank
Rafferty and Josh and Al and Grace uh

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for doing traffic control and making it
safe um it was pretty Harry up at the

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top of skyline and they did a good job
making it

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safe um I was a little concerned because
I someone said that they heard a comment

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from mayor Englehart that said if we do
this again we don't need City staff we

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can just put out signs and that should
be good enough unfortunately that just

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kind of shows me how out of touch you
are and you know when it comes to

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employees safety should always come
first and volunteers should be treated

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like
employees um Mr City attorney I think

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you need to explain to the city council
and to Mayor Englehart that she's not

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the CEO of the city and that she can't
just go into City Hall and bark orders

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the chain of command is and should be
that city council makes decisions that

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Council decision gives direction to city
manager and the staff works for city

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manager not for any particular city
council member and you know we're going

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to end up having staff quit or file more
lawsuits against the city because you

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know the chain of command is
broken it's been a year at least since

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the last city manager left and I've seen
the intern sign inim sign for Rafferty

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that's just absolutely Ely horrible
Management on the part of the city

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council either hire a city manager or
make him the city manager but to string

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the poor guy out for a year really I
mean he's afraid to make a decision

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because maybe he won't get the
promotion Step Up do your job okay it

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it's just it's just so disturbing that
takes a year and I don't want to hear

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excuses oh we can't afford a city
manager um

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rapidy I you know would like you to
please contact 672 Greenview and tell

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them their time is up um that property
has been on the hit list for code

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enforcement for going on 15 years and
the pre or the owners now have owned it

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for 14 years and they're doing nothing
with it that property is going nowhere

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it's an isore and Mr ster is running for
city council now so that he could get

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rid of that iord living next to him
because he couldn't do it for eight

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years while he was on the Planning
Commission so I think their time is up

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they're behind on their taxes they're
not going to do anything let's just move

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on the city has two lawsuits that I know
of because of mismanagement by city

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council and the city previous city
manager having a relationship with an

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employee well I find the same thing
disturbing that Brian you know Bergman

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and Carol Englehart have this
relationship and they've been dating for

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a long time and I just think it's really
bad for our city because we need five

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independent thinking people and not
somebody who's afraid to make a decision

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because their girlfriend's going to get
mad at them so I think one of you should

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resign anyone watching this if people
actually watch these meetings please

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drive by Henda in West Road it's
horrific that lot is a city-owned lot

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and it's absolutely horrific I'm
embarrassed weeds are 6 feet high and I

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know the excuses about the dirt pil
there but plant a row of Hedges FAS

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nitas or something and hide the thing
but no other property in the city could

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look like that without getting code
enforcements and it just you know the

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city manager and you know can only do
what city counil directs him so you know

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take care of
that and if you think that lot looks bad

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why don't you drive by Mr zula's house
and I'm just absolutely appalled that Mr

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zoula sitting council member is now
wasting City staff time and we finally

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hire a code enforcement man and we're
wasting city code enforcement because

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you failed to live by the
codes six years ago Norm I stood up here

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and I asked you a question and I said do
you live by the general plan and the

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codes or are you just a hypocrite
politician that wants to tell other

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people how to live well actions speak
louder than words so I'm done with you

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I'm tired of being nice I'm going give
you three weeks to hire a contractor and

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pull a permit and replace that roof and
clean up your your hedges in your front

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yard after three weeks I'm going to sue
you and I'm going to sue the city for

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Selective enforcement and I'm going to
go after damages for my avocado Crest

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property that was undervalued because of
lack of code enforcement for this city

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I'm putting you on notice I've tried to
be nice to all of you and I'm done I'm

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done Norm
lastly I just want to say that Norm

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zoula and Carol Engelhart they don't
represent me and they don't represent

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98% of the
city I worked hard I saved my money I've

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made 20 30 40 years worth of mortgage
payments to live here I didn't just wait

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till my mom and dad died and then
inherit the house you didn't earn it and

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it shows by the respect you have for the
city and by the respect that you give to

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our codes so I wish City Council would
start actually doing some things and so

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that I don't have to play hard ball but
one way or another I really like this

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city there's some wonderful people here
and I'm tired of things not getting done

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thank
you thank you are there any other public

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comment committee

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comments should we go back I can do the
uh Hab habitat and vector control oh I'm

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sorry yeah I'm sorry Kath sitting there
patiently thank

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you I back to 4 a Katherine Howen from
the py hills habitat preservation

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Authority technical advisory committee
and vector control thank you for your

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patience hey I want to thank you for the
time it's been I know

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it's can you hear me okay it's quite
it's

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how how's that
better okay good evening mayor anglehart

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members of the council staff and
citizens of La Harbor Heights well thank

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you very much for the time to be able to
talk about these two things but I'm

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Kathy Howen a resident of La Harbor
Heights who is appointed by the city

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council along with Roy Francis and Adam
nazarov to sit on this the uh habitat

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count Authority citizen tactical
advisory committee and I'm here to

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update you on what's going
on in July the habitat Authority board

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unanimously voted to form a legal entity
called the community facilities district

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and I put a map in front of all of you
there or the cfd which allowed the

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habitat authority to place measure pH on
the November 2024 general election

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ballot within the district's
boundaries measure pH is a special tax

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of 1 cent per building square foot and
that's building not your whole property

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so if you have let's say an 800 square
foot 1,800 square foot house that would

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be $118 a year that they're asking for
from you the equivalence of maybe two to

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three Starbucks
right the key projects funded by this

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special tax would include the first
would be the preserved security and

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maintenance of the natural habitats
including powder Canyon Canda Hills

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turble Canyon Sycamore Canyon Helman
Park and Aurora pescadera for security

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which includes law enforcement and Fire
Prevention we have the Rangers from the

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mrca and we do contract with the various
agencies to do repairs like failing

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Trails due to heavy
rains the second would be preventing

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wildfires our R our Rangers are
extensively trained Wildland

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firefighters they maintain Parkers
Ranger patrols for fire safety and

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emergency response for example on July
the 4th weekend the park rangers along

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with many volunteers patrolled the trail
heads and some of the trails of the

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habitat and the third would be clearing
brush from homes and emergency access

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road and the habitat Authority has
finished its annual clearance of brush

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and tree review a removal from homes and
emergency access roads in La Harbor

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Heights we actually had goats clear 11
acres of powder Canyon this year as

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well and also the fourth would be
protecting the

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natural lands from threats like homeless
encampments vandalism and illegal

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dumping all the funds from measure PH
will be locally controlled they will not

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be taken away by the state or used for
any other purpose so why is the habitat

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Authority doing this the habitat
Authority faces an on goinging

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structural deficit and without an
additional stable funding source they

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will be forced to make additional cuts
which could and right now it's quite a

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um shoestring type of um amount of money
that they have you know it's really the

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funds are really limited and this what
this could do is eliminate Rangers Park

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man maintenance staff and limit access
for individuals and families to the

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trail
and the the open

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spaces so this is why they're wanting to
do

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this now if you want to get out and
exercise and enjoy nature we have many

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public hikes available led by our
volunteer doents in powder Canyon we

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have two hikes at 5:00 sharp on Sundays
and Thursdays during and this is

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starting at the black walnut Trail off
of Fullerton Road so please visit our

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website habitat author authority.org or
meet

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up.org and look under the poy Hills
Preserve hikers to join and everyone is

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welcome to these and as always please
visit us at habitat authority.org at our

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Facebook Instagram Twitter or meetup.com
Pages for more up toate information

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about happenings and events and links
are found on our website habitat

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authority.org I do encourage all
residents to feel free to reach out to

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Roy
Adam or myself on any questions you may

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have about the
habitat and that is my one on the

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habitat I also represent the harra
heights On The Board of Trustees for the

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Greater Los Angeles vector control
district and I want just a reminder if

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you wish to visit vector control or
contact them for any reason you need to

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contact the LA District not Orange
County because we are La haror Heights

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is in LA County so one animal on this
earth that could affect your health for

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the rest of your life or cause death is
a

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mosquito if you're being bothered by
mosquitoes you need to find out why they

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are around so this month there were 22
nonhuman cases of West Nile Virus versus

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36 cases last year in California five of
those were in Fresno and the rest are

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scattered around the San Fernando Valley
so it's not in this area and so far

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we've had two human cases of westnile
virus in California this year and in La

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Harbor Heights vector control had four
service requests for mosquito activity

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and all were negative and treated our
technician found mosquito activity in

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areas of La Harbor Heights six in pools
four in USD Lids one in gutter spots and

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20 in other non-p poool
locations mosquitoes don't fly far from

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their water sources so if you don't have
any standing water anywhere and have a

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lot of mosquitoes maybe your F your
neighbors do to help control the

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mosquito population just do the simple
Act of dumping out the water in the

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various receptacles in your property at
least once a week keep an eye on what

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could be potential sources of mosquito
growth our technician would be happy to

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come out and show you what could be
potential sources that you

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have and here's something interesting
the greater La vector control district

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along with Orange County County are
looking for ways to reduce the mosquito

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population one stud one study that we
are doing is called the sterile insect

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technique or
sit what we're doing is sterilizing male

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aides egypti mosquitoes and releasing
them weekly into a specific area to see

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if the numbers of of the mosquito
population drop and this is a pilot

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study so far in the initial studies they
are seeing some decrease in mosquito

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population so it's very promising Ing
and I hope the future shows even more

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promise and the reason why we're picking
the 80s egypti mosquito is because they

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carry the zika virus dangi fever yellow
fever and CH Ching Kong

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Chung uh virus I can't say that
right and in the meantime while we're

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working on this we're looking for ways
to control the is the a city's egyp ey

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populations that are plaguing our
residents and pose a risk for local

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transmission of tropical diseases that
are being brought into LA with

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Travelers and there has been an
unprecedented onslaught of imported

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cases of dangi fever as a disease is
going rampid throughout the world and

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residents are returning with infections
from travels near and far for each case

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report that results in an extensive
door-to-door inspection and treatment

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campaign so if anyone ever has it in La
Harbor Heights you may find vector

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control knocking on your door please let
them in and do the appropriate

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treatments and uh La greater La um
Vector District also bought a new

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facility in pacomia and at this time
they're setting up a lab for the

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mosquito rearing for the sit program and
so for more information go to the

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website Glam mosquito. org we do have a
lot of various educational program

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programs and a lot of information to
help you out and that's

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that thank you very much

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Kathy committee

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comments city council

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comments Mr PPA so a you I I have a few
number one um I want to thank the uh the

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laab heights uh Improvement Association
uh they just W wrapped up this year's

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music in the park uh I know I saw many
of you there from many of the events um

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it's always sad when the last one ends
because it's kind of the end of summer

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and we're moving into moving into fall
but I think they did a pretty amazing

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job of putting that together and you
know if you're a resident of the city

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you should really look into you're not a
member of the Improvement

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Association I would highly recommend um
joining I think everyone gets their

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monthly
news uh monthly uh little magazine in

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the mail regardless of whether you're a
member uh but they produced that um also

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on October 5th I believe it is is the uh
Community uh yard sale uh uh they uh

424
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,880
Susan Brooks uh kind of did it herself
last year and um this year here I think

425
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,920
the Improvement Association is taking it
on I look forward to that I think that's

426
00:37:53,640 --> 00:38:01,319
going to be a a wonderful Community
event um I also o want to thank uh all

427
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:05,480
the volunteers that came out uh and also
thank Susan and John Susan Brooks and

428
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:09,640
John Dominguez for organizing our
quarterly cleanup um I remember when I

429
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:14,839
moved into the city back in
1998 that uh we used to do that and it

430
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:19,000
was always kind of neat to you know get
out meet meet the uh meet your neighbors

431
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,880
that you normally don't get to see and
uh and then go have a nice cup of coffee

432
00:38:20,839 --> 00:38:26,839
afterwards uh which I know several
several of the folks did so uh also want

433
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:32,119
to thank the staff for for keeping us
safe I know um uh there were some not so

434
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,040
nice things said by people driving by in
cars as we tried to to pick up the trash

435
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:42,680
on the side of the road and then lastly
um just the shout out to the

436
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:48,319
EPC uh I think everyone kind of felt it
today the the Pasadena earthquake um it

437
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:54,760
was a small one uh but we've had a
couple now that have shook the

438
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:58,200
heights uh you know the EPC is producing
a bunch of preparedness materials both

439
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:05,000
for Wildfire fire but also for
earthquake preparedness I know firewatch

440
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:09,920
um which is our local um Community uh
firewatch group has put out some

441
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:13,880
material Kathy soel has put it out uh
around uh preparedness so not only do

442
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,280
you need to be prepared for your family
up here but make sure that you're

443
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:21,599
thinking about your pets especially if
you have large animals that have water

444
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:25,160
needs uh one of you know we're seeing
this in palace veres with the land

445
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,359
movement issue is that water is usually
the first thing to get impacted

446
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,480
especially during land movement events
up in Pasadena the city hall even had an

447
00:39:30,359 --> 00:39:36,800
issue even in a small earthquake with
some water pipes breaking so make sure

448
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:41,240
you have sufficient water for your large
animals and animals um you know to get

449
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,079
you through at least 72 hours I think is
the

450
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,400
recommendation uh make sure you have
sufficient food for your animals to get

451
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,880
through 72 hours and that you kind of
keep that separate so you don't lose

452
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:57,920
track of what you're
doing anyone

453
00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:02,079
else I too would like to um thank John
Dominguez who's here tonight is there a

454
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:08,280
way to train the camera on him if he
doesn't speak or and and also Susan

455
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:15,599
Brooks they revived the trash pickup
along Henda and it was well attended and

456
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:21,599
the street always looks so nice oh thank
you for for a short period of time okay

457
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:26,560
administrative
reports thank you mayor and Council

458
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:31,720
couple items for you tonight uh over the
weekend there was a birthday party for

459
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:38,359
one of our longest term fire department
volunteers Joan clenin Stein she was a

460
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:41,800
uh part of the dispatch component of our
fire department all the way back in the

461
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:46,160
day when it was purely volunteers and
residents that pitched in and helped out

462
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:50,720
um she recently turned 99 so they had a
nice big celebration for her over the

463
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:55,839
weekend um and we were able to bring out
engine 772 to wish her a happy birthday

464
00:40:53,359 --> 00:41:00,160
so the the Chiefs uh Chief briser and
chief Martin along with Captain Harris

465
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,520
and another another retired captain that
happened to be here um in town for

466
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,960
another event that doesn't even live in
in the area anymore was here and he

467
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:12,280
wanted to go over and wish Joan a happy
birthday so it was a very nice event we

468
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:17,119
were able to go over and wish Joan a
happy 99th and and many more um she's

469
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,880
always been an integral part of the
volunteer part of the fire department

470
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:24,359
it's we dealing with dispatch and all
the way in from when they used to be

471
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,800
everybody at home that would pick up the
phone and answer the phone calls all the

472
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:32,319
way into our now professional um
dispatch that goes through the county

473
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,680
system so she was an integral part of
that fire department for a very long

474
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,920
time so we just wanted to thank her and
it was a great event to to go out and

475
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:46,119
wish her a happy birthday for that one
and also as mayor Pro pespisa touched on

476
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:51,040
the there is going to be a yard sale
coming up October 5th um the price is

477
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:56,720
$15 and the spaces will be a little
larger this time so it'll be 20 by 20 um

478
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:01,000
last time they were 10 by 10 um so this
go around the the spaces will be bigger

479
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:05,960
um they're looking at having a little
more spaces so it won't be as restricted

480
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,240
if you're very interested please reach
out um to the Improvement Association is

481
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:16,040
taking that one over um they do have an
email out there it's LHH yardale

482
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:20,040
gmail.com um reach out to that one and
they will help you get connected to it

483
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,800
um and get going we do have some flyers
that are sitting here at the C the

484
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,760
counter at City Hall um for that but
also a couple of walk talks will be

485
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:30,480
heading out for that one but very good
event very well attended last year and

486
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,480
we heard a lot of great things from the
community related to to that yard sale

487
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,200
event so we're looking forward to
another one um we do have two pretty

488
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,960
significant
um traffic control things that'll be

489
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:47,839
going on tomorrow um along Henda Road
there has been some copper theft from

490
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:52,040
the Telecommunications lines um so
Frontier is going to be doing some

491
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:57,920
single lane closures along Hender road
tomorrow um to replace a

492
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:02,000
large section of lines that was stolen
off that was stolen um so they'll be out

493
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,319
doing single lane closures and things as
they work to replace those lines along

494
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:11,359
Henda Road um and at the same time
Southern California gadison will be

495
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:14,359
doing some road work on um Harbor um so
you've seen if you've gone up and down

496
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Harbor recently you see message boards
there that say road closed um for the

497
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:23,040
most part it will be single Lane on both
directions of Harbor there will be a

498
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:27,240
short period where they will fully close
Harbor as they string a cable across the

499
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,400
roadway and make a replacement of a line
so for a short period of time um Harbor

500
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,800
will be closed on August 13th otherwise
it will just be single lane closures on

501
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:40,960
Harbor Boulevard that'll be tomorrow
same thing on Hos andas Frontier Works

502
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:44,800
to make those repairs of um the lines
from the copper theft that's happening

503
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:51,480
ever more often to it and also too I'd
like to thank uh Mr Dominguez and Mrs

504
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:55,000
Brooks for the working to coordinate
that cleanup of fana Road it was a it

505
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,000
was a great event we had a good time out
there I me we kind of split into two

506
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,440
groups there was a group that worked
here from City Hall all the way up to

507
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:05,720
East Road and a group that went from
Skyline down to the north city limit I

508
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,000
was working with that group there we
actually made it through that part

509
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,720
pretty quick so we said hey let's go
from Skyline all the way down to canat

510
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:16,559
sombre then we cleaned down to to canat
sombre so it was it was a nice event

511
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:21,880
very well attended it was great to see
the the group of people out from that

512
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,520
have did it when we used to do it back
in the day as as AER Pro was talking

513
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:29,400
about to new residents that are just
doing it for the first time this around

514
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:34,359
so it was a very nice event it was a a
great thing to do that's all I have

515
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:38,520
tonight thank you city attorney's report
nothing other than we met on the items

516
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:44,599
listed in closed session and there's no
reportable action that is all Community

517
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:48,720
Development report Mr
wridge thank you mayor um so the

518
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,119
Community Development report for this
month uh building department issued 15

519
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,240
building permits um and collected permit
fees of a little bit over

520
00:44:54,839 --> 00:45:02,200
$166,000 we took in two code enforcement
complaints um we have 25 Active cases

521
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:08,160
and closed seven cases during the month
of sorry it's July June it's July um we

522
00:45:05,319 --> 00:45:12,599
issued four stop work orders during July
um and closed six of those ille

523
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,839
unpermitted construction cases I'm
bringing that to 65 we also took in

524
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,440
seven development applications and
planning and approved nine projects if

525
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,720
you have any questions I'm happy to
answer them for

526
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:30,000
you any
questions fire chief's report

527
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:35,520
well good evening Fire Chiefs report we
can go over that real quick um we had 60

528
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:40,040
calls this month which is seems to be
pretty average it seems like we're

529
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:45,240
running about 58 to 62 calls monthly we
did have one significant fire call it

530
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:52,319
was small but it was a brush fire on
July 21st 20 24 about 2m we had a brush

531
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:58,359
fire breakout um
in chaperel and uh and grass on Walnut

532
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:02,079
Street um we were able to respond
quickly the volunteer fire department

533
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:08,920
got in there quickly a good size up
report was made and uh resources from uh

534
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,440
the County of Los Angeles and the laab
Heights Fire department were able to

535
00:46:10,839 --> 00:46:15,839
subdue that fire keep it from getting
any bigger but that's like our first

536
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:21,880
brush fire that we've had we're
fortunate that there wasn't any wind

537
00:46:17,319 --> 00:46:26,640
blowing um I was asked to U mention
after hearing some of the talk tonight

538
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:31,119
about things that are somewhat negative
let's talk a little bit about some

539
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:37,079
wonderful people in laaber Heights so uh
I wanted to bring up the uh W the um

540
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:42,319
party that we had this weekend this
recognition of uh the wings uh family

541
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,119
and our and our interaction as a fire
department with that family Caitlyn and

542
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:53,040
Martin W Wings whose grandmother lives
here in the Heights was having a party

543
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:59,839
for a birthday party on July 12th
20124 for uh Laura Li she was a 2y year

544
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:03,480
old and uh Charlotte her sister was
three years old at the time Charlotte

545
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:08,359
drowned uh had a near drowning in the
pool theab Heights Fire department

546
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:11,760
volunteers responded and they took over
the

547
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:16,680
scene uh Charlotte was pulled out of the
water she was uh she was unconscious not

548
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:21,040
breathing CPR was started uh the laab
heights volunteers showed up applied

549
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:26,520
supplemental OT started an IV went code
3 to Whittier Presbyterian hospital and

550
00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:30,880
she survived Charlotte was here this
weekend with her parents and the

551
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:36,000
original crew that was on that incident
we all had a celebration here in at the

552
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:41,280
in the council chambers uh to
acknowledge those uh that event and

553
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Charlotte was here she was 13 now she's
uh she was at the the the uh party and

554
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:52,280
so were the old crew it was a very
positive thing to happen also I wanted

555
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:56,200
to just mention uh Joan kapenstein um
her 99th birthday uh for those of you

556
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,119
who don't know Joan she's kind of a
legend around here here I didn't know

557
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:03,160
Joan it was the first time that I've
I've heard of her heard heard rumor of

558
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:08,000
her heard that she was like one of our
first dispatchers when the department

559
00:48:04,839 --> 00:48:11,720
was volunteer but uh Janes spent 43
years as a volunteer dispatcher for the

560
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,280
laaber heights both as when it was the
all Vol back in the all volunteer days

561
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:19,200
that some of you might remember and then
during the transition to the more modern

562
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Department that we know today Joan in
1968 Joan's oldest son Paul volunteered

563
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,480
to train as a firefighter with the laab
heights volunteer fire department and he

564
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:32,800
persuaded his mother to join the
department as a dispatcher so it was a

565
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:37,800
family business Mark and James uh Jon's
other two sons also became volunteer

566
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:41,000
firefighters and uh Joan has said that
all dispatching was done from their

567
00:48:39,319 --> 00:48:45,800
homes there were five dispatchers they
all had special phones installed and

568
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,160
when A call came in all five dispatchers
were notified at one time each one had a

569
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:53,680
radio and a fire telephone for receiving
the calls calls first came into an

570
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,040
answering service then they were
transferred to the dispatchers on the

571
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:02,640
fire on the Fire phones in their homes
then they would dispatch from there um

572
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:07,119
Joan thought the dispatchers ought to
have volunteer fire department badges

573
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:10,079
but the chief at the time kind of
scoffed at that and said where would you

574
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:16,559
wear them on your
bathrobes so uh Joan created an

575
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:22,079
official red phone that she that she
sewed onto five official bathrobes that

576
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:26,480
she issued to all five of the uh of the
dispatchers in the city and I I gave you

577
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:32,119
the handout here that shows that she did
that she's quite an an amazing woman um

578
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,000
we would uh they she created the
official bathrobes for the dispatchers

579
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:40,040
uh when dispatching moved from the
resident's homes into the fire stations

580
00:49:37,799 --> 00:49:43,599
Joan moved in to become the first fire
captain to accommodate and and

581
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,760
Communications chief for the Department
she trained many fire service graduates

582
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,079
and students who worked in the
department turning them into in her

583
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:54,119
words fine clear speaking dispatchers
and I can't tell you how important it is

584
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:57,839
when you're on the radio and you're
managing something to have clear and

585
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:02,960
concise communication I push it very
hard with the volunteers that we push to

586
00:50:00,359 --> 00:50:07,359
talk we don't push to think over the
radio if you can kind of catch that

587
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:12,240
meaning uh anyway it was our 99th
birthday uh a huge group of people

588
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:16,240
showed up and celebrated that we all
went down there and acknowledged her so

589
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:23,280
there is one of your one of your key
residents in laab Heights Joan K Klo

590
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:30,160
kapenstein kste John kapenstein your
first dispatcher I'm proud to say um

591
00:50:27,319 --> 00:50:36,040
also uh so I mentioned the fire and then
um there were three um after July 21st

592
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:40,200
properties located at the high and very
high fire SE severity zones requiring

593
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,280
documentation of compliant defensible
space

594
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:50,440
inspections according to ab38 uh
assembly 38 were uh were conducted and

595
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,359
to for real estate sales disclosures and
documentation only so people that have

596
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,760
to go through these they don't need to
worry about it we're going to go up

597
00:50:54,359 --> 00:51:01,480
there and do a fire inspection but it's
just for sales per purposes only um the

598
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:07,040
uh Chief alal they did three inspections
in July in accordance to ab38 if there

599
00:51:04,799 --> 00:51:11,760
are any other questions I can answer
them that's end of

600
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:16,640
report any
questions I would like to make a

601
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:24,920
followup comment on the wing matter and
thank the chief um Caitlyn Wing kind of

602
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:32,160
decided on her own that she would
honor the par Medics and staff that were

603
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:38,799
on duty back in was it
2014 when her her daughter almost

604
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:46,680
drowned and the chief and Don sterk I
guess I've um did a wonderful job uh and

605
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:51,839
it was it was really nice seeing some of
the guys that had actually been at that

606
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:57,640
event and one of the gentlemen I can't
remember his name he had saved the call

607
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:03,400
sheet and
actually he was I can't articulate it it

608
00:52:00,839 --> 00:52:07,720
it was really down when he read the call
sheet but they went out anyway and it

609
00:52:04,799 --> 00:52:12,559
all turned out wonderful and I really um
think we cannot thank our fire people

610
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:19,359
and our paramedics enough because they
actually do save a lot of lives thank

611
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:27,599
you so much um Sheriff's Department
report good afternoon we had one uh

612
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:32,799
reported burglary on uh excuse me
Elka

613
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:38,440
Hita that took place on the 4th of July
we also had one vehicle burglary that

614
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:44,520
occurred that occurred at powder Canyon
Trail um the parking

615
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:51,559
area just a reminder that all valuables
should be kept at home in the trunk or

616
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:57,079
uh or take them with you because this
happens almost every month at uh

617
00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:01,200
powdered Canyon Trail we had identity
theft one vandalism that took place on

618
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Fullerton Road but I drove there this
morning and I didn't see any vandalism

619
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,200
so it might have been cleaned up and one
petty

620
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:12,280
theft for the month of
July any

621
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:17,799
questions Mr
pispa uh Deputy Beltran um sir I I've

622
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:22,839
become aware of some copper theft along
Henda uh I I didn't hear that in your

623
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:27,920
report has there been a the copper theft
I reported it was reported today oh was

624
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:31,920
reported yeah it was just reported this
morning I took a report okay cuz it it's

625
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:37,240
occurred now in three three separate
places along Henda yeah they just told

626
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:43,359
me about it uh I did do one report this
morning uh was uh according to the U

627
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:50,000
employees of uh Frontier yeah it was
$220,000 worth of copper yeah it's hard

628
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:55,240
to believe that that that much copper is
these these these copper wires are not

629
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:59,599
your usual what people imagine it
they're pretty it's almost 2 in thick

630
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,160
and there's a lot of copper inside of it
yeah now

631
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:09,240
I I believe it happened this weekend the
time we can't no it's been a couple

632
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:12,680
weeks well there was one this morning
yeah I'm I'm yeah I I actually talked to

633
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:17,119
the frontier folks and there was there
was one that happened a couple weeks ago

634
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:20,799
it started a couple weeks ago um and and
the only reason I bring it up and maybe

635
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:25,960
we can get some you know I I know it's
hard at night to get Folks up here from

636
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,760
this sheriff's department but maybe you
know they can just drive up and down

637
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:36,240
Henda and just look at it cuz while
while it impacts Frontier what who it

638
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:40,760
really impacts are residents that for
the last two weeks have not had phone or

639
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:45,359
Internet service because of the outage
safy issue right so there's a safety

640
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:51,640
issue with it too they can't di on 911
or there's no reception and it comes a

641
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:55,559
serious uh yeah so safety issue I just
you know if you have an opportunity to

642
00:54:53,319 --> 00:55:00,960
you know at briefing at industry just to
ask you know not a lot just if you got 5

643
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:06,440
minutes drive up and down Henda and just
make sure there's no one cutting the the

644
00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:06,440
phone cables on the poles

645
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:15,240
absolutely any other
questions moving on to the consent

646
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:20,319
calendar items 9 through 13 does anyone
wish to pull any

647
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:26,760
item may I have a
motion I move to accept the consent

648
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:35,520
items second
Mr zazula yes Mr PPA yes Mr larity yes

649
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Mr Bergman yes and Englehart is a yes
item 14 protest hearing on unpaid brush

650
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:46,160
clearance costs Mr wridge thank you
mayor um this item before you tonight is

651
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:50,359
related to the clearance of properties
related to brush clearance um there are

652
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:55,119
four four properties that have been
cleared by the department um as part of

653
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:59,200
our blush brush clearance program um
they went all the way through the

654
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:05,000
process were abated um and those are
ready for the lean process to that um so

655
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,559
tonight uh the action would be for the
the city council to overrule any

656
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:13,400
protests offered during the protest
hearing and adopt resolution 20

657
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,599
24-24 confirming the report of costs
incurred by the city and authorizing the

658
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:21,920
assessment of as leans to be placed on
the tax rols effective August 12th 2024

659
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:25,559
or amend the charges to be assessed and
place the leans as followed and adopt

660
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,799
the resolution if you have any questions
I'm happy to answer

661
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:34,520
any
questions should open the hearing are

662
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:40,039
there any protests or
comments hearing none return it may I

663
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,039
have a

664
00:56:50,000 --> 00:57:00,200
motion I make a motion that we adopt
resolution number 20 24-24 confirming

665
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:03,200
um the reported costs incurred by the
city and authorizing the assessment as

666
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:11,400
Lan to be placed on the tax rolls
effective August 12 2024 second Mr

667
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:19,319
zazula yes Mr PPA yes Engle harsy yes Mr
larity yes and Mr Bergman yes okay we've

668
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:28,000
already done 15 and 16 17 fiscal year
2223 Street Improvement project Zone 4

669
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Henda Road did I do something here
so for the record the recusal is because

670
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,920
of the location of your property correct
yeah

671
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:44,160
oh
okay Mr

672
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:50,359
wridge thank you mayor and Council um
this item before you tonight is to award

673
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:55,799
contract for the fiscal year 2022 203
Street Improvement project uh zone four

674
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:59,760
Hina Road and East Road um this project
uh before the

675
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:06,359
council a little while ago um we had
opened bids for the project and the bids

676
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:11,440
came in um at about 1.7 million which
was way above what the engineer's

677
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:16,880
estimate was and what we expected to to
have related to the the project um so

678
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:21,680
staff and city engineer went back and
met with the roads advisory committee's

679
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:25,880
design subcommittee they relooked at the
projects revised the project the scope

680
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,480
of the project um and did a couple of
things

681
00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:33,760
they reduced the number of streets that
we would be worked on and they also

682
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:38,799
created a few additional alternate bid
items so typically we'll have one or two

683
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:43,680
alternate bid items one of those
alterntive bid items generally is crack

684
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:47,920
seal there's Council usually has a think
for us to be able to do $30,000 worth of

685
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,799
crack seal as part of the projects um
and so that is typically one of the

686
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:55,119
alternate bids and there might be an
additional Street or two that we would

687
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:59,440
look at as an alternate bid um but after
opening that bid

688
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:04,160
um the design subcommittee did a lot of
very good work in looking at the roads

689
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:10,160
um to work on the roads that needed the
work the most up front um so the project

690
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:17,400
the base bid of the project was revised
to include work on Skyline lucadia and

691
00:59:14,359 --> 00:59:23,559
panoy um in those areas up up in that
location as the the base bid and the

692
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:28,880
alternate bid item one is for crack
sealing so we would crack seal the areas

693
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:33,559
that were as part of the 1718 project um
which is a regular cycle and process of

694
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:40,000
of maintenance for that so that crack
seal would be on Reposado

695
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:44,640
alocate half of Church Hill and papaya
are the streets that we did in the 1718

696
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:52,319
project that would be done for alternate
bid one is the crack seal component

697
00:59:46,839 --> 00:59:56,039
alternate bid 2 um is a work on um
reconstructing deep Canyon so deep

698
00:59:54,319 --> 01:00:00,920
Canyon is over off of East Road close
close to papaya um that street has had

699
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:07,160
some significant deterioration over the
years um so alternate bid two would be

700
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:12,599
essentially that area needs to be all
RNR so removed and replaced um and

701
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:17,440
reconstructed and Alternate bid three
would be for repaving of green view the

702
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,799
public portion of green view about half
of green View Road is public and the

703
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:26,599
other half is private so alternate B
item three would be to do that would be

704
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:32,400
to pay from Reposado um all all the way
to where it it changes to the private

705
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:39,839
side of Green view um if you we we rebid
the project um and open those bids a

706
01:00:35,799 --> 01:00:44,640
couple of weeks ago um we received uh
five people pulled bid packets um we

707
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:49,440
received four bids from Onyx Paving
Company RJ Noble Hardy and Harper Inc

708
01:00:47,319 --> 01:00:53,359
and All-American asphalt um where the
four companies that submitted bids uh

709
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:58,440
for that included the base and the
alternate bids um if you include the

710
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:06,160
base and all the alternate bids together
um the lowest responsive bidder would be

711
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:11,520
Onyx Paving for a total of 1,
369,000 um so that would be the option

712
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:15,480
to award the base plus the three
alternates ultimately the way it was

713
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:21,400
broken up Council can award their
contract based off any combination of

714
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:26,440
the base bid or base bid plus alternate
or alternates um the only thing is that

715
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:31,520
has to be from one contractor
so depending on if you look at wanting

716
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:36,920
to approve a base plus a certain
alternate the contractor that is the

717
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:42,119
lowest bidder may change based on which
bid item you're looking at um staff is

718
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:46,520
making the recommendation that we award
based on the base bid and the three

719
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:51,640
alternates um so that would be awarding
the contract to Onyx Paving Company in

720
01:01:48,839 --> 01:01:56,319
the amount of 1 M
369,000 um as the second component of

721
01:01:54,359 --> 01:01:59,960
these Street Improvement projects is the
construction management and the

722
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:05,839
inspection portion of it and for that we
reached out to our engineering firm nv5

723
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:09,440
to receive a proposal for doing the
inspection Management Services

724
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:13,119
construction management services and the
inspection of it including materials

725
01:02:11,279 --> 01:02:19,160
testing and labor compliance component
of it um so their their proposal for the

726
01:02:16,279 --> 01:02:19,160
that component of it is

727
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:30,160
$2,364 um so cmn inspection is done as
like time and material so they look at

728
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:36,680
the whole project to look at the amount
of working days that are in there so

729
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:41,279
inspection is scheduled for they gave a
bid for 80 working days as part of the

730
01:02:39,319 --> 01:02:45,640
inspection the reality is generally our
projects don't do 80 days worth of

731
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:48,960
inspections so they would only bill for
the time that they're actually doing

732
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:52,680
inspections so for like the inspector it
would be at the time for meetings that

733
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:56,880
we have and progressor meetings
pre-construction meetings and their time

734
01:02:54,839 --> 01:03:00,680
in the field doing in inspection um they
would bill us for those hours that they

735
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:05,680
work same thing with the construction
manager it would be the the time that

736
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:11,799
leads up going through the material
submittals and preconstruction progress

737
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:15,839
through it and close out um so it's not
that we would award an agreement to nv5

738
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:21,079
and they would collect
$192,000 it's based on what they built

739
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:26,039
so typically our cmn inspection usually
comes in less than that because they

740
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:29,680
don't typically work the entire time as
far as like days of inspection in the

741
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:35,039
field which is the most costly component
of it um theirs also includes labor

742
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:38,760
compliance since this is a prevailing
wage there are certain requirements that

743
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:41,640
have to be done as part of the
construction so there's interviews with

744
01:03:40,359 --> 01:03:46,039
the workers from the construction
companies we have to review their

745
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:50,079
payroll the s a certified payroll we
have to do all of those and report all

746
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:55,000
of that to the state and also includes
materials testing and and inspections um

747
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:59,920
as needed for the project so staff is
recommending that

748
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:04,480
the city council W the fiscal year 2022
23 Street Improvement project um

749
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:10,039
Construction contract to onx Paving
Company in the amount of

750
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:14,000
$1,369 th000 authorize a contingency for
this project in the amount of 15% award

751
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:18,279
the construction management and
inspection contract to nv5 in the amount

752
01:04:16,279 --> 01:04:24,319
of
$192,300 and authorize the finance

753
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:33,440
manager to amend the F the fiscal year
2024 25 bu budget to increase count

754
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:33,440
number 10450 PWD 6830 by7

755
01:04:52,520 --> 01:05:04,880
725,000 is in addition to the 1.36 9
million correct how does this fit with

756
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:08,599
the original expectations of uh the
assessment as we've gone along our costs

757
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:13,520
have definitely increased especially
over the last few years um so our costs

758
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:18,279
have continue to increase for the
projects as we've gone on from when that

759
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:23,640
the assessment was originally put in
place so where would the

760
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:28,480
excess dollars come from it comes from
the general fund from the which general

761
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:39,599
fund is that 192,000 do you feel that's
realistic for what they're

762
01:05:37,279 --> 01:05:45,160
doing I I would say it's going to be
less than that on average construction

763
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:49,760
time for the street projects we usually
don't see a go past 60 days um just on

764
01:05:48,359 --> 01:05:56,359
average it's generally less than that
we're usually in the 45 to to 50 60 at

765
01:05:53,240 --> 01:06:00,400
the long end of a project um so you know
they they write those proposals to

766
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:06,119
include sort of the worst case scenario
of time so like 80 Days of construction

767
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:10,720
so inspector is generally not going to
be out here for 80 days which would

768
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:15,240
represent a significant Savings in that
amount of money okay thank

769
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:25,279
you Mr Bergman um this one if I look at
nv5 you know the proposal this time

770
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:32,760
versus what they've done in the past
this is considerably

771
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:39,000
more it's like almost double so the
um I mean do you have to have somebody

772
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:45,000
on out here every single
day during that uh when they start the

773
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:50,359
paving project yes well that that is the
best recommendation to have our

774
01:06:46,839 --> 01:06:50,359
inspector here while they're doing the

775
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:59,960
work and their proposal they you know
they give the who's going to be doing

776
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:04,000
the work you know their their primary
inspector would be Mike Elma he's done a

777
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:08,559
project here in the heights for us he
did a project the one we did with RJ

778
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:12,920
Noble um which included like Cypress and
nbal and dorothia and and those areas

779
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:18,880
over there so he's very familiar with
the community and the train and and

780
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:23,279
getting people in and out so he's he's
well experienced with the the heights

781
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,640
I guess I'm sort of based on they've
almost doubled their price I have a real

782
01:07:29,799 --> 01:07:38,039
concern with the
um pricing struction

783
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:44,440
and I mean maybe we need
to go out for a bid on this thing I'll

784
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:50,400
say Peter Sago who is the construction
manager for it does an amazing job he is

785
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:54,200
I think you worked with him in other
communities he does a lot of other work

786
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:59,200
for other communities even in their city
that that City he represents he's very

787
01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:02,839
thorough he tracks things well he keeps
everybody on their toes he makes sure

788
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:08,760
all the submittals are in and reproved
um their inspectors do an amazing job as

789
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:15,359
part of it they they do good work in
this aspect of

790
01:08:11,279 --> 01:08:19,839
it I guess if uh myself personally if I
approve this tonight I want you to go

791
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:25,080
back to nv5 and they need to sharpen
their pencil on this thing because it's

792
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:29,520
it's you look at what they charged is in
the past and what it is now it's U it's

793
01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:36,960
a huge
increase on this prior Street

794
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:41,880
project it's I know we have a working
relationship obviously with that guy

795
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:47,199
we've also split this Pro we've split
this up in the past and that project

796
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:52,000
didn't go so well I understand that I
understand that

797
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:56,880
that's they can also sharpen their
pencil and then believe me like Peter

798
01:08:54,520 --> 01:09:01,679
tracks his hours they track their hours
very carefully to know that to watch

799
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:06,080
exactly where they are and let us know
where they are in

800
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:10,040
their in their hour range of what they
put it in the proposal I mean if they

801
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:15,199
have to be out here they have to be out
here I understand that

802
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:18,920
but I don't want them out here if they
don't have to necessarily be here type

803
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:23,159
thing and I guess that puts work on you
to manage that

804
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:27,120
situation yeah definitely they are not
any more than they need to be I mean if

805
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:31,759
if the contractor isn't working or doing
something that needs to be inspected

806
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:37,319
generally aren't
here in a situation like this as a city

807
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:42,960
ever hired a civil engineer with some
background in working with streets and

808
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,960
Roads hire them

809
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:50,920
independently we have not done that
aspect of it

810
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:10,320
if you had to use somebody else who
would you reach out to we would have to

811
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,320
put it out to

812
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:22,600
bid mean I'm just concerned that there's
such a vast increase on this thing over

813
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:27,320
the last
one sure you notice that too

814
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:35,000
and I don't know if the Project's that
much different or what they've done on

815
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,000
the whole thing but

816
01:10:51,520 --> 01:11:02,000
uh I guess it's just my feelings I'd
like to hear from the rest of the

817
01:10:57,239 --> 01:11:05,080
Council I had a you said um the bid the
whole package of the of the paving not

818
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:11,280
the
engineering um was

819
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:16,600
restructured and what was it the
alternates that were taken out of the

820
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:21,040
bid or was were there other streets that
aren't on this proposal that were

821
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:26,239
deleted there were other streets that
were deleted from the base bid aspect of

822
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:31,040
it so the Bas bid also you can look at
alternate two and three were included in

823
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:35,480
that base bid previously um so and there
were other streets that after the

824
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:39,239
subcommittee looked at they said okay
these streets can wait the their PCI

825
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,920
their conditioned they went out they
walked the areas again to look at what

826
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:47,600
could wait and what needed to move
forward um for us to figure out what

827
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:51,400
would put us more into where we would
need to be budget

828
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:58,280
wise
okay could we could

829
01:11:53,960 --> 01:12:05,239
we adop adopt the bid by Onyx Paving
that hold off on the payment to nv5

830
01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:05,239
until we've talked to them more about

831
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:15,000
that we could certainly now how whether
how many um administrative hurdles that

832
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:18,800
creates I don't know but legally you
certainly

833
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:22,080
can
administratively it's just going to put

834
01:12:20,679 --> 01:12:26,239
the project behind as we're going to
have to wait to move forward with any

835
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:30,600
sort of submittal so typically out of
the gate the first thing we do is we

836
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:33,880
work through agreements getting so
basically kind of that first month is

837
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:37,840
going to be that it's agreements it's
bonds insurance is put in place so we

838
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,800
look we review all those City attorney
reviews those construction manager

839
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:46,400
reviews those and then it's the
submittal from the contractor so their

840
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:52,120
AC mix designs and all of their their
tack coats and slurry seals uh crack

841
01:12:49,639 --> 01:12:56,560
seal all of those are submitted for
review and approval um through that that

842
01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:05,000
process of it so that part of it would
probably be delayed if we if we go out

843
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:05,000
and circulate a bid to find another

844
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:15,040
option I've I've heard comments and well
since I've been on the council which

845
01:13:11,719 --> 01:13:22,040
isn't that long we saw that
nv5 made a very high bid to design the

846
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:25,880
paving at the Helo hydrant and then
there was

847
01:13:23,639 --> 01:13:32,000
another I'm forgetting it now there was
another project where where there oh it

848
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:37,880
was the park it was the diagonal ramp at
the park and they submitted an extremely

849
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:43,480
high bid and when I got first on the
council uh one of the members of the

850
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:48,679
roads committee pointed out that there
was a

851
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:55,360
project I'm not sure which year it was
but the cost of the paving increased

852
01:13:52,960 --> 01:14:01,880
which was everybody understood that and
then nv5

853
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:06,159
just upped their cost to 10 or 15% of
whatever the increase was even though

854
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:12,120
the amount of streets that was
covered

855
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:16,159
um hadn't changed so the little
experience I have with this it it just

856
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:22,440
seems nv5
is is uh has not got a TR good track

857
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:28,239
record from what I've observed the other
thing is if we could save any money I

858
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:34,960
mean at this point we're being asked to
increase this project by 725,000 and

859
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:43,159
that that comes out of the general fund
and as I recall our 25 2425 budget was

860
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:48,360
like $100,000 from balancing or over is
very short so I I would think it would

861
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:54,000
be worth
looking looking at someone else or

862
01:14:52,080 --> 01:15:00,600
having them come back with
a a more

863
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,600
accurate a lower

864
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:10,120
price I if you want us to not have the
inspector out there every day we can we

865
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:15,440
can work that through and look at reduce
the hours that they have in for

866
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:21,159
inspection I just want to work really
smart on

867
01:15:16,639 --> 01:15:26,679
this and um I think what we need to do
tonight this might just one councilman

868
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:32,159
speaking is to approved the project with
the the total aggregate cost on the

869
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:37,800
1369
and give you directions that you have to

870
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:43,120
go back to nv5 and really really tighten
up these numbers and see where they can

871
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:46,120
pull things out and if uh if they can
have the inspect I don't want any

872
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:50,920
inspector out here if they don't have to
be out here type thing if it's on a need

873
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:54,560
type basis and they have to we're
pulling all this money out of the

874
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:58,040
general fund to make this thing happen
and

875
01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:02,679
I understand if you need the inspector
out here and you need the management

876
01:15:59,719 --> 01:16:08,800
from that team out here fine but we need
to really tighten this up because I look

877
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:15,400
back on the last proposal from nv5 and
this is this is like almost double and

878
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:19,000
it's um maybe they have more work in it
but they need to go back and relook at

879
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:22,920
the whole thing
and that's where I'm coming from that if

880
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:27,040
you're going to use them you got to
really tell them that you've got to

881
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:32,000
sharpen your pencil and not have any
person out here when they don't need to

882
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,440
be type thing and reduce that cost at
that

883
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:38,600
192 that's just one council

884
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:50,960
member Mr Zula I'm in substantial
agreement with Brian if You' like to

885
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:55,760
make an motion I'd second
it okay well I'm ready to make a motion

886
01:16:53,360 --> 01:17:00,800
then I'll make a motion to award the
fiscal year 20 2223 Street Improvement

887
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:05,520
project to onx Paving Company in the
amount of 1,

888
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:13,719
369,000 authorize a contingency fee for
the project of 50

889
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:16,440
15% and go back to nv5 for um to sharpen
their pencil on their whole entire

890
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:22,800
contract
amount and minimize any labor at all

891
01:17:20,639 --> 01:17:28,560
that has to come out here and just use
them uh only the

892
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:33,960
absolute absolute minimum
amount and if uh if

893
01:17:31,639 --> 01:17:36,840
they they can't do that or they can't
reduce their costs in this thing we're

894
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:41,400
going to have to go out to bid on it I
know that'll slow things down so I don't

895
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:45,760
really want to do that either and then
authorize the finance manager to amend

896
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:51,120
fiscal year 2024 budget to increase the
amount uh of the 725,000

897
01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:03,560
city manager execute the contracts in a
form approved by the City

898
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:09,320
attorney one second oh oh
bar okay well do you have to author

899
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:14,679
authorize the budget amendment for that
full amount if you're hoping well I did

900
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:18,679
because I I don't know what it's going
to be or anything else so at least we

901
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:23,280
have some latitude in there I think we
given clear instruction that this number

902
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:23,280
has to come

903
01:18:23,639 --> 01:18:32,520
down was is that a second Mr zoua or I
think Dennis beat me to it but oh fair

904
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:36,639
enough um let's see I guess I open for
public

905
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:45,040
comment or I should have done that I
hearing nothing um Mr zoua yes Engle

906
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:50,040
heartsy yes leery yes and Mr Bergman yes
okay number 18 does somebody mind

907
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:53,040
letting Mr oh this pieza back in the
room

908
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:26,560
okay number 18 financial assistance and
recovery from the winter

909
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:32,120
storms thank you May and Council um this
is continuing some of the information

910
01:19:29,719 --> 01:19:37,639
that related to our storms from February
um as we move for further through the

911
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:43,320
process um We are continuing through the
process with um FEMA we have a dedicated

912
01:19:40,679 --> 01:19:48,880
representative that we work with at FEMA
um that we work to put all of our costs

913
01:19:46,639 --> 01:19:52,400
that we've incurred so far in any future
future work that may need to be done in

914
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:56,560
mitigation that we work with that um
that individual to help us through that

915
01:19:54,000 --> 01:20:02,400
process um have been working very very
well with that aspect of it as moving

916
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:06,840
forward um so we we meet with them on a
pretty much weekly basis from there we

917
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:11,159
last meeting we worked with um a member
of their mitigation staff to look at

918
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:15,199
some of the areas that we may need to do
future mitigation work um so that's

919
01:20:13,719 --> 01:20:19,400
areas of Henda where we saw some
failures area of East Road where we saw

920
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:25,199
some failures also some of the drainage
areas that um we saw overrun with debris

921
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:30,480
from the debris flows that are coming
off the Hillside and speaking with the

922
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:35,159
mitigation expert from FEMA they will
come out um and actually walk us through

923
01:20:32,679 --> 01:20:40,719
that and that proposal as well so we're
finalizing that damage assessment form

924
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:46,639
with our representative and are working
to schedule a time for the U mitigation

925
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:50,520
representative to come out um a couple
of things that go along with mitigation

926
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:55,600
aspect of it is um we could you we
receive about 100% of what we have in

927
01:20:53,320 --> 01:21:00,960
costs that go out the door as far as
emergency work that we have done that we

928
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:04,320
receive reimbursement for which right
now is just a little under half a

929
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:07,960
million dollar and we receive that in
there if we need to go above and beyond

930
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:12,239
that aspect of it if there is some
damage that needs attention and

931
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:16,520
mitigation work to prevent this in the
future um if it's above that half

932
01:21:14,679 --> 01:21:20,040
million dollar Mark and we would have to
go through a cost benefit analysis to

933
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:24,800
see if there is a benefit of doing that
work to be able to get there um as part

934
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:29,800
of it so um we're in that phase with Fem
right now um recently you've seen there

935
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:34,520
some work has happened out on uh some of
the roads we made some repairs to East

936
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:40,239
Road where there was some SL failure in
that area um so that stretch at 400

937
01:21:36,639 --> 01:21:44,520
block of East Road was repaired and so
at city engineer worked with um put

938
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:49,320
together a little bit of bid documents
we put that project out to bid um so

939
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:53,080
that stretch of East Road was actually
elevated on one side to help keep the

940
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:58,520
water to flow pitch to the other side of
the road um some burm will be coming in

941
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:02,560
from there similar on LEF Flo where
there was a section where that road

942
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:07,760
roadside had washed away and we did some
repair work along lafl section of

943
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:12,400
Fullerton Road and East Road as well um
with the company CTI um so that Paving

944
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:16,120
work was recently done the burm work
should be happening very very soon um as

945
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:22,639
part of that so it's all reimbursable
costs that go into um

946
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:26,920
our claim but our paperwork with FEMA as
well so all of those things are are

947
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:30,400
moving through the process um as we
speak we're actually meeting with our

948
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,520
representative tomorrow um we have a
scheduled meeting with him from there

949
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:36,320
Tom is there anything else you wanted to
add that I might have

950
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,040
missed I don't think he

951
01:22:42,199 --> 01:22:51,639
heard Council has any options we're any
questions we're happy to answer Mr bisa

952
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:54,880
so a couple things um I mayor Englehart
and I have met with some of the

953
01:22:53,280 --> 01:23:00,000
residents along hosand that were
impacted by the debris flows um are we

954
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:05,960
going to be able to have some
mitigations in place before next

955
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:12,120
winter we're working on larger
mitigation with FEMA um at the same time

956
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:17,440
city engineer and myself are looking at
some more specific things that we could

957
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:21,159
do now um that may not necessarily be as
part of that mitigation work that FEMA

958
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:25,760
does but things that we can do to some
of those drainage facilities at s

959
01:23:22,679 --> 01:23:30,040
impacts um to help prevent this from the
next rainy season which is coming up can

960
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,360
we is there a possibility of
understanding what those might look like

961
01:23:31,480 --> 01:23:37,000
by
October yes okay because i' I'd like to

962
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:40,320
make sure that they have an opport you
know if we can agendize it for October

963
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:45,159
that would be great and I'd like to
invite them to come down to the October

964
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:48,800
meeting to voice their concerns because
they have some pretty specific concerns

965
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:54,080
about you know what happened and I know
the mayor and I have been um trying to

966
01:23:52,080 --> 01:24:01,800
help them understand the process we go
through to make changes to both drainage

967
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:08,480
and possibly even the road so i' like
to agendize that if possible uh number

968
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:15,159
two is Mr Brooks brought up and I'll
agree with him on this one thing Weston

969
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:21,560
Hender really is an isore um I I hope
that part

970
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:24,719
of the the recovery plan is to remove
the tons and tons and tons of storm

971
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:30,400
debris that have been dumped there and
it's now I mean we're several months

972
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:34,760
from the event is there a plan to remove
and and restore that lot back to the

973
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:40,080
condition it was in before the storm
there is um as part of the fuma process

974
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:45,040
we have to remove those debris in a very
specific fashion um we also have to bid

975
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:49,360
that process out so Grace has been in
the process of bidding it we were just

976
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:53,119
waiting for the last bid to come in we
need the three we need at least three

977
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:57,280
bids as part of our purchasing policy to
be able to do that um and we're just the

978
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:01,760
last bid is coming in right now so once
we have that then we can move forward

979
01:24:59,119 --> 01:25:06,239
with it it's not going to be inexpensive
to remove that from the property um but

980
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:11,639
it would remove all of that material
that was staged or deposited on West

981
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:16,239
Nanda and we'll get recovery for those
costs we have it already we already have

982
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:21,360
it as a line item in our recovery cost
once we have the hard cost we'll be able

983
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:27,960
to add that dollar figure to it okay I
had a question about Western Henda the

984
01:25:24,199 --> 01:25:32,520
the the burms they're there to keep
people off the property I mean it's not

985
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:36,560
like it's going to end up being a flat
piece of land no I was talking about no

986
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:42,719
I agree the BMS need to stay it was
specific to the the debris that was

987
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:46,639
placed there I BMS were there before the
storm so yeah I don't know if it was Mr

988
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:50,920
Brooks or Mr Fernandez were complaining
about I think it was Mr Fernandez was

989
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:57,480
complaining about the BMS but yeah well
we can I mean as a council we can talk

990
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:01,159
about what we want to do with that piece
of property I guess I mean I think

991
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:05,719
there's some ideas maybe we need to
resurrect those in the near future about

992
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:09,960
what we should do with that
property so maybe that's another thing

993
01:26:07,719 --> 01:26:17,199
we agendize for later in the
year thank you anyone else okay number

994
01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:23,719
19 project
updates thank you Council um looks like

995
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:28,320
we're still in the window for October
for delivery the new type 1 engine um so

996
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,760
hopefully we should be getting that soon
it's going through the production

997
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:36,000
process right now as we see we made some
pretty significant uh progress on the

998
01:26:33,639 --> 01:26:40,280
solid waste agreement tonight we'll
continue to work city attorney's office

999
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:44,119
to finalize the agreement with we and
bring that back to the council for you

1000
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:49,280
to ratify um and put that into place as
we roll that out to the October

1001
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:55,360
changeover from Republic to now wear
Disposal Services as part of that so

1002
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:59,119
that's a very good thing there I assess
accessibility improvements at the park

1003
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:04,440
uh we are meeting this week with our
representative from cdbg related to the

1004
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:09,560
funding that we can utilize for the ramp
to clarify and finalize if we can do a

1005
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:14,280
design build aspect of it or if they
need plans to be reviewed and approved

1006
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:18,960
as part of their project before they can
authorize us to spend money on it um so

1007
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:23,639
uh this this coming Wednesday our
representative from cdbg our community

1008
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:27,600
development block block block grant
program um will be coming out and

1009
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:31,880
meeting with us in Walking the site of
the park so we can finalize that so if

1010
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:35,760
we can do a design build aspect of it we
can move forward with design build um

1011
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:40,440
instead of preparing plans and then
going out to bid for for construction um

1012
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:44,639
she she was looking at there is the
potential for it um to go through that

1013
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:49,600
design build process she just needed to
finalize or gather some more information

1014
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:52,920
from her side from her her uh fellow
colleagues and then we'll meet and

1015
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:57,520
discuss that on Wednesday we'll meet
with her as that part of it

1016
01:27:54,639 --> 01:28:04,679
um h Road saf safety Improvement plan so
avocado Crest signal um contractor has

1017
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:10,840
the big things in as far as the polls
traffic cabinets and the um controller

1018
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:16,159
for the signal are in and ordered the
roads committee reviewed the signage

1019
01:28:13,719 --> 01:28:20,119
that will go on the polls um as part of
their their packet that they looked at

1020
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:24,880
last month they made a recommendation to
have those signs that hang that on the

1021
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:29,639
pole let's say h Road and avocado Crest
um to match our regular street signs

1022
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:33,320
that we have so we'll include City seal
and have a bit of orange around the

1023
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:38,560
border of it so what our regular street
signs look like our illuminated signs on

1024
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:43,880
the signal will look similar and we'll
use that as we move replace the other

1025
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:48,600
signage along henda's Road at the other
signals West Henda East in Henda there

1026
01:28:46,199 --> 01:28:52,480
isn't any signal any signage like that
at uh Skyline so as we replace those in

1027
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:57,320
the future we can make that all
consistent and keep that moving forward

1028
01:28:54,520 --> 01:29:03,920
they have a tentative turn on date of
March 2025 for the signal that will be

1029
01:29:01,119 --> 01:29:08,400
the completion of having the signal in
tested and all of the striping and

1030
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:15,119
signage being replaced on Henda by March
of 2025 is is the

1031
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:21,800
contractor's best schedule at the moment
so for that one the measure W monies um

1032
01:29:19,119 --> 01:29:25,480
we've received monies related to that
and we're in the process of scheduling

1033
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:30,719
those Works to be done um we have been
working with uh the contractor or the

1034
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:35,920
company that had the project at the park
for the regional component um Tom had

1035
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:39,400
just met with him last week to review
and discuss some some options related to

1036
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:43,320
that um so we should hopefully be able
to bring that back to the council here

1037
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:49,600
relatively soon with some good
explanations as to the cost for the

1038
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:53,040
system ongoing maintenance and looking
at transfer agreement and documentation

1039
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:57,360
that we need to execute with the county
as well so hopefully should have that

1040
01:29:54,760 --> 01:30:01,760
here for you um at our next meeting um
and Gerald's in the process of revising

1041
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:05,920
the guard rail RFP we worked with the
rad advisory committee to look at he

1042
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,239
went out and did an assessment of all
the areas in town that have guard rail

1043
01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:12,800
some areas that need guard rail put that
into a priority list we worked with the

1044
01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:17,560
roads advisory committee to look at that
priority list to see if that was the

1045
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:21,159
areas they felt we should focus on first
um they they agreed um so that is being

1046
01:30:19,719 --> 01:30:24,560
revised so we can get it released here
hopefully by the end of the month it's

1047
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:30,480
kind of where we're at right now if you
have any questions I'm happy to

1048
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:36,639
answer Mr P pleas so two things
um what's going on with our since you

1049
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:42,520
brought up signage our city limit signs
the one on the north end of town at

1050
01:30:38,679 --> 01:30:47,719
Henda has been gone for eight months now
yes uh we were in the process of trying

1051
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:52,440
to get those put into order I believe
right when all our storm happened I mean

1052
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:56,080
grace got tied up with everything so
she's in the process of completing that

1053
01:30:54,159 --> 01:31:01,440
order now so we can order those signs
and get them installed okay and then are

1054
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:07,520
we not repairing guardrail in the city
now because of the replacement

1055
01:31:04,679 --> 01:31:11,159
project we have I noticed that there's
been quite a bit of damage to guardrail

1056
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:15,520
that has not been repaired for many
months yeah we need to move forward on

1057
01:31:13,639 --> 01:31:20,199
some Replacements of guard rails a
couple of those are Insurance related so

1058
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:23,960
we have to work with assessments from
crashes that have happened and we

1059
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:29,280
actually get claims from insurance to be
able to go through the insurance process

1060
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:34,400
and replace that c rail there is there
is at least one stretch that we don't

1061
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:40,199
have any identifiable claim or crash
data to to go back to that we can look

1062
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:40,199
at

1063
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:49,080
okay when do you think the work on the
avocado Crest T signal will start it's

1064
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:53,199
still late
October um they recently did some pot

1065
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:57,159
holing out there so they looked at the
locations where the polls would be going

1066
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:00,639
to make sure there's no utility lines
that would be in the area they didn't

1067
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:06,960
find anything which is good so no
changes needed to be done to Foundation

1068
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:11,480
or pole design they are anticipated like
late October to start doing some work um

1069
01:32:09,719 --> 01:32:15,040
out at those sites is kind of where
we're at today with them um but that

1070
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:25,080
might stretch into early November just
depending on when they start receiving

1071
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:25,080
equipment thank you anybody else

1072
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:35,920
okay any individual council member
information

1073
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,920
items or attendance

1074
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:41,199
reports public comments not on the
agenda

1075
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:49,440
anyone I guess we'll
adjourn oh I'm sorry

1076
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:04,400
Bruce Thomas panchoy first of all it's
sort of my opinion the whole group of

1077
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:09,239
you it's none of our business out here
how you live as long as it's outside of

1078
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:13,600
the city council who cares that's just
my opinion secondly anybody that doesn't

1079
01:33:12,679 --> 01:33:18,080
know
Joan she's the only one that been in

1080
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:24,280
this department longer than I
have anybody doesn't know her needs to

1081
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:29,880
go meet her she's a classic
lady she knows the Heights and knows the

1082
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:34,520
history of the heights like hardly
anybody else

1083
01:33:31,159 --> 01:33:40,440
around and she I've had the privilege of
being her her chauffeur in the fire

1084
01:33:37,639 --> 01:33:48,960
equipment in several occasion she is
just a kick to be around arry so and so

1085
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:54,480
you get her mad there's nobody like her
but she's about as sweet as they come

1086
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:59,560
just for the sake of anybody that wants
to know about the heights give her a

1087
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:04,639
call she is a classic lady that's it
thank you thank you it's a high note to

1088
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:07,800
end on if you if you look on the one
that Chief passed out there was an

1089
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:11,199
article in the Heights life there's a
picture there of the Jeep Joon and the

1090
01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:13,800
Jeep Mr Thomas is driving the jeep CH
fer in the

1091
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:22,320
Jeep and if I might please uh among your
other accomplishment she was my Cub

1092
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,320
Scout denm mother

1093
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:36,480
do I need a motion to
adjourn okay we're adjourned then thank

1094
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,480
you Mr

1095
01:34:39,119 --> 01:34:44,239
Thomas well thank you for the pr