[0:01] I'm calling the regular meeting of the laab height [0:07] City I'm hello we're calling to order the regular [0:13] meeting of the laab height city council August 12 [0:19] 2004 Mr PPA here Mr Bergman here Mr ly here Mr [0:26] coula here and anglehart is here C Howen would you lead us in the flag [0:32] salute [0:39] please Al to the flag of the United States of America to The Republic stands [0:47] one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all [1:00] at this point we're going to [1:06] advance two items items 15 and 16 these both deal with our trash [1:14] service which is very very important and affects every single person in the [1:20] Heights and before this I start I just want to um say that Brian Bergman and [1:27] Dennis lar spent a great deal of time on on this and uh we're residents we're [1:33] trying to do a good job they have really uh worked on this and so we'll go first [1:40] with item 15 [1:43] Mr thank you FD thank you mayor I just want to introduce um our special City [1:50] Attorney Patrick Munos this grace is working thank you uh [2:29] can you hear that better there we can hear a little better now that's a little [2:32] better now all right thank you mayor and council members um we have been uh going [2:36] through a couple of items here related to the hauling of refuges um in the city [2:42] uh we have been working with our city attorney's office ran and Tucker um [2:45] we're very fortunate through their offices to have uh Patrick Munos with us [2:50] um who is an expert in the field and he'll be talking a little bit about the [2:53] items tonight thank you uh good evening Miss [2:57] mayor and members of the council uh the the first item on your uh uh Advanced [3:02] agenda item number 15 deals with um the balance of your uh Solid Waste agreement [3:09] with Republic Services uh the as set forth in the [3:13] staff report the uh agreement with Republic expired in May of [3:19] 2022 uh we've been uh operating on a uh extension since that time the extensions [3:26] expired and we went to a month-to-month uh service with them [3:30] uh they have agreed to continue to provide services until October 1st uh [3:36] one of the conditions of their agreeing to do so was to have um what we refer to [3:41] as an extraordinary cost adjustment this year instead of the standard uh CPI [3:46] increase they asked for a 10% increase to cover uh some of the costs that [3:51] they're incurring that were not uh covered under the terms of the agreement [3:55] so in essence what we're asking for on item 15 is a motion to ratify by uh a [4:01] 10% uh increase to the rates that Republic uh would be otherwise charging [4:08] between July 1 and October [4:14] 1st are there any questions of Mr [4:20] Munoz is there any public [4:25] comment I return it to the council may I have a motion I'll make a motion to move [4:30] approval on item 15 for the 10% rate increase it'll just take them through [4:36] October 1st of this year second Mr Zula yes Mr PPA yes Mr lar yes [4:45] Mr Bergman yes and I'm a yes item [4:51] 16 going forward thank you mayor and Council U [4:56] this item is dealing with moving forward with Trash Services uh in the har [5:00] Heights um we have been gone through an extensive process um with a subcommittee [5:05] from City Council made up of council members um larity and Bergman who worked [5:10] with staff and Mr Munoz to go through a very ex extensive and exhaustive process [5:16] related to um a new agreement with a new trash hauler that will come in and [5:21] provide Refuge services for the city and then I'll hand it over to Mr Munos and [5:24] he can give you kind of a quick summary as to where where we were and where [5:29] we've made it to thank you again [5:33] um uh as um Mr uh wridge indicated the uh Council subcommittee along with staff [5:40] and our office went through a process where we started Cons with consideration [5:44] of six companies narrowed that down to three companies that we received [5:48] proposals from um of the um three proposals uh where [5:55] disposal Incorporated uh ultimately was determined to to have not only [6:00] objectively the most competitive price uh proposal but the committee felt as [6:05] though it provided the best value uh an overall uh service propos that was being [6:11] proposed um the staff report provides a high level summary and I I won't just [6:16] repeat what's in there but I think it's important to bear in mind that the staff [6:20] report is just a summary and that we'll be bringing back a uh an extensive [6:25] franchise agreement um that will have all of the deal points uh spelled out [6:30] and nailed down I think residents should uh know that um this might be um a gross [6:37] generalization but if it's if there's a service that's currently being provided [6:41] by Republic it will also be provided um in the new franchise with wear disposal [6:48] so things like um Christmas tree recycling quarterly cleanups uh bulky [6:52] item service things along those lines that were not touched upon in the staff [6:57] report that currently exist will continue to exist the difference uh in [7:02] my view is going to be a much more um economical uh Service uh that's being [7:08] provided um there for instance will no longer be charges for burough Services [7:14] uh for streets that are difficult for standard-sized trash trucks to navigate [7:20] um uh there are some residents that are the top of steep driveways that need [7:25] what's referred to in the industry as Scout Service uh we're going to Pro [7:29] provide a provision that will allow for sharing of the cost for scout Services [7:34] uh for um residents that are clustered at the top of a of a steep driveway uh [7:40] as I was describing um there's a provision that was proposed that after [7:44] the first 90 days where we'll uh come back with a proposal to figure out how [7:50] to save residents more money if there are Services being provided that aren't [7:55] as efficient as they could be if there's other services that could be provided [7:58] that would result in cost savings that's something that we'll be re-evaluating [8:02] after the first 90 days um where we'll be providing uh all of the services that [8:09] the city needs under a new state law known as s SP 1383 it's a very [8:14] significant uh um benefit that the city will be receiving there are very um [8:21] specific and detailed reporting requirements um requirements for [8:26] monitoring uh waste that's disposed of in the very ious containers that will be [8:31] uh placed out for residents to use uh route auditing requirements a lot of [8:35] expense involved in all that that where will be taking on for the city and while [8:40] the city does have a waiver for SP sp1 1383 for the next couple of years that [8:44] waiver will expire and so we'll be well positioned to be in compliance with the [8:48] law at that time and understand that there's a $10,000 a day potential [8:52] penalty if the city's not in compliance so um I think the proposal you have uh [8:57] will have a a very significant benefit uh from from a legal compliance [9:01] standpoint um those are the highlights of the contract I'm and the proposal I'm [9:05] very happy to answer questions if anybody has [9:08] any are there any questions of Mr [9:14] Munoz I have a couple of questions sure all right so um I know this is in the [9:19] staff report but for the people so what will be the base cost for the typical [9:26] residents if the base cost will be $32 .98 a month um and as I mentioned in my [9:34] opening comments uh there's a lot of uh residents who receive something called [9:38] burrow service right now uh the burough service will be eliminated so anybody [9:42] that's paying both the base cost for Republic plus a burough service charge [9:46] going forward will only pay the base uh service charge which is the 32.98 [9:52] correct and then if you have a long driveway or uh the trash is picked up at [9:59] at your house instead of at the street right how [10:04] is that so that's referred to as carry out service or sometimes as Scout [10:08] Service uh the charge for that is an additional $54 in change I apologize I [10:13] don't remember the exact number 5444 if I remember correctly um and as I [10:17] mentioned if there are a number of Neighbors at the end of that same [10:20] driveway they'll be able to share that $54 um on a prata [10:26] basis and the um where will be providing the same 96 [10:33] gallon three containers that we have now that's [10:37] correct you'll have one container for refuse one for recyclables and one for [10:42] um organic waste or green waste the one exception is that wear has offered a 10% [10:48] discount uh to seniors or disabled customers uh who aren't generating as [10:54] much waste and can use smaller size containers and then you you did indicate [10:59] that you reached out several different haulers were contacted by I guess you or [11:06] the committee and one of those was Republic [11:10] and for the longtime residence one was hallay hallay and Republic both [11:14] indicated that they were not interested in um participating in this process and [11:20] then the ones you did speak with um they submitted competitive sealed bids or [11:27] whatever however that worked it it wasn't a super formal process um with [11:32] sealed bids and that sort of thing although we tried to keep them [11:35] confidential just to keep the process Fair um so we we received three [11:39] different proposals one from Edco disposal one from Valley Vista services [11:44] and one from we disposal Inc um they all had um strengths uh that we had to [11:52] compare with each other or against each other I should say to determine what [11:56] what the committee felt was the best value from a price standpoint as I [12:00] mentioned the wear proposal was clearly you know the the lower number and then [12:04] as we went through and talked about the type of equipment that would be used um [12:09] the customer service Provisions the transition services that would have to [12:13] occur the committee felt comfortable that we provided both the the lowest [12:17] price and the best [12:24] value that's all the questions I have at this point [12:31] I do have a card from Mr we so I guess I'll open it to public comment unless oh [12:37] does anybody else in the council have questions Mr P I'm sorry Mr where Mr [12:43] PPA so um on I was reading through staff notes and also the agreement [12:51] um and you mentioned the the Scout service which is kind of the service [12:55] where um if you want our I think you call maybe valet service which is where [13:00] if you don't want to bring your trash cans out they'll come up and get them [13:04] um we in here notice there's a senior disabled option for that so there's um [13:11] two different things we're talking about here valet service refers to if you keep [13:15] your trash cans in your backyard behind a gate right um then the huler will go [13:21] behind the gate get the trash cans and bring them out to the place where [13:24] they're disposed of and that would apply whether uh your residence is structured [13:28] or or situated to where you could put your your uh carts out on the curb or if [13:33] you're at the end of one of those long driveways so for those um residents in [13:37] need where has offered to provide that valet service at no charge Scout service [13:42] is unique to very very long driveways steep driveways unusual circumstances [13:48] where the curb is not being used as the as the I just want to confirm the valet [13:52] service will be at no charge that's correct and where will determine whether [13:56] or not I mean it'll an objective standard [14:00] got it people who [14:05] qualify thank you are there any other questions did the two members of the [14:11] committee wish to say anything at this point or we'll [14:15] invite Mr wear to come up I just I'll comment a little bit uh I [14:21] thought the process went extremely well and it was uh you know we worked as a [14:28] team and inter interviewed as a team and asked a lot of questions and it uh it [14:33] was uh really good to get all the information from the [14:37] haulers and I thought it worked uh very well we got a very good process with the [14:43] whole thing and we were able to uh really crunch the numbers and look at uh [14:47] what worked and what didn't work in the past and we're doing whatever we can to [14:54] make this transition this fall as seamless as Pro possible [15:00] Mr wear is here from the company and uh he he understands that uh we had some [15:07] issues with the transition in the past and that uh we're going to work real [15:12] hard to make this happen and so it's eliminate any pain supposedly for all [15:18] the residents uh when that occurs but Mr wear can speak to that when he comes up [15:23] but I thought it went very well and want to thank all the team members [15:29] yeah I understand that this was the first uh process of looking at trash [15:34] haulers with the assistance of uh an attorney who specializes in [15:40] trash this this aspect of trash and uh it really to me added an important [15:49] Dimension that uh would have been missing otherwise uh especially in [15:54] regards to customer service I think there was uh considerable time spent on [15:58] customer service uh not as an afterthought but as the [16:02] discussions went on with all three haulers uh really focusing on customer [16:08] service and the responses uh from where people uh really spoke to that in a very [16:15] favorable way in a way that uh it seemed that there was considerable sensitivity [16:21] to the needs of our community uh but also uh knowing that Mr Munoz is [16:27] available uh down the road uh to uh take any comments that we might have as a [16:34] council or needs in the community to uh speak to customer service if there's any [16:41] complications any difficulties uh that uh he he's there and uh available to us [16:47] and I I just think that that to me firms up any agreement uh firms up the offer [16:53] of customer service uh that it it certainly will come through and I guess [16:59] I certainly don't have any question about that happening on the basis of the [17:03] discussion on the basis of Mr munoz's involvement and just uh where we are [17:09] today with with where and I think it's a great [17:15] decision okay Mr [17:19] wear perhaps you could give us just a tiny bit of the background of your [17:23] company and then whatever you'd like to present [17:29] absolutely absolutely uh Madame mayor council [17:32] members my name is Jay wear I'm the general manager of we disposal I uh [17:36] stand in Fr you tonight thanking you for your consideration uh and thanking the [17:41] committee for its recommendation uh my company is uh [17:45] started by my parents in 1968 uh we are a full Solid Waste [17:50] Service Company we have uh over 250 trucks operating in the Southern [17:56] California area um across San Diego Los Angeles and Orange County um we are [18:02] looking forward to providing uh the services uh to the city and as you've [18:08] heard tonight the committee was very much focused on uh community service and [18:12] customer service and those are my biggest um uh focuses for your city one [18:19] transitioning out the city in a smooth and effortless uh and seamless [18:24] transition and secondly to make sure that your city is serviced my customer [18:29] service team along with my operations team who I have here tonight actually I [18:34] have Mr Manny Gonzalez and I have also miss Leah Ding and ranr all very much uh [18:39] prepared to uh involve and invest theirselves um fully to customer [18:44] services within this city um and with that said uh I believe that I can answer [18:51] any of your questions if you have any I guess it's a little unusual but [18:56] are there any questions Mr we by any of the council [19:02] members no I guess not fantastic thank you look forward to your consideration [19:07] thank Youk you and your team for coming well we'll close the hearing [19:13] then may I have a [19:19] motion is there any additional public comment I thought I asked I'm [19:26] sorry all right back back to the council then is May I have a [19:32] motion I'll make a motion to select uh where disposal to enter into a new [19:38] franchise agreement for collection and processing a solid waste including [19:41] compliance with the state mandated organic Recycling and related [19:45] services and direct the City attorney to prepare a franchise agreement for a [19:49] 10-year period beginning October 1st 2024 with the option of two one-year [19:54] extensions and return to the council for its uh approval of such [20:00] franchise a second is there any [20:06] discussion um just briefly I just want to basically thank uh the uh uh Dennis [20:13] and Brian for their hard work on this they address a number of my concerns I [20:17] had with the uh current uh uh waste huler and I appreciate it especially [20:23] your concentration on the fact that we have responsibility to to do our best [20:29] for the for the uh residents not simply for the city as a whole but for the [20:33] residents individually thank you very [20:38] much okay U Mr Bergman yes Mr larity yes Mr PPA yes Mr [20:47] Zuli yes and Englehart is a yes thank you Mr Munoz and thank you Mr [20:56] wear okay back to our normal procedure public comment I have [21:03] one card from Rick [21:11] Brooks good [21:19] evening Brooks Skyline Drive um I want to start by thanking the volunteers that [21:26] came out a couple of weeks ago and helped pick up trash I really appreciate [21:31] that there are other people in the community that actually care about what [21:34] our city looks like I also want to thank Rafferty and Josh and Al and Grace uh [21:40] for doing traffic control and making it safe um it was pretty Harry up at the [21:45] top of skyline and they did a good job making it [21:49] safe um I was a little concerned because I someone said that they heard a comment [21:55] from mayor Englehart that said if we do this again we don't need City staff we [21:59] can just put out signs and that should be good enough unfortunately that just [22:03] kind of shows me how out of touch you are and you know when it comes to [22:08] employees safety should always come first and volunteers should be treated [22:11] like employees um Mr City attorney I think [22:15] you need to explain to the city council and to Mayor Englehart that she's not [22:19] the CEO of the city and that she can't just go into City Hall and bark orders [22:24] the chain of command is and should be that city council makes decisions that [22:29] Council decision gives direction to city manager and the staff works for city [22:35] manager not for any particular city council member and you know we're going [22:40] to end up having staff quit or file more lawsuits against the city because you [22:45] know the chain of command is broken it's been a year at least since [22:51] the last city manager left and I've seen the intern sign inim sign for Rafferty [22:57] that's just absolutely Ely horrible Management on the part of the city [23:01] council either hire a city manager or make him the city manager but to string [23:07] the poor guy out for a year really I mean he's afraid to make a decision [23:12] because maybe he won't get the promotion Step Up do your job okay it [23:19] it's just it's just so disturbing that takes a year and I don't want to hear [23:24] excuses oh we can't afford a city manager um [23:29] rapidy I you know would like you to please contact 672 Greenview and tell [23:35] them their time is up um that property has been on the hit list for code [23:41] enforcement for going on 15 years and the pre or the owners now have owned it [23:45] for 14 years and they're doing nothing with it that property is going nowhere [23:50] it's an isore and Mr ster is running for city council now so that he could get [23:56] rid of that iord living next to him because he couldn't do it for eight [23:59] years while he was on the Planning Commission so I think their time is up [24:03] they're behind on their taxes they're not going to do anything let's just move [24:07] on the city has two lawsuits that I know of because of mismanagement by city [24:13] council and the city previous city manager having a relationship with an [24:18] employee well I find the same thing disturbing that Brian you know Bergman [24:23] and Carol Englehart have this relationship and they've been dating for [24:26] a long time and I just think it's really bad for our city because we need five [24:31] independent thinking people and not somebody who's afraid to make a decision [24:36] because their girlfriend's going to get mad at them so I think one of you should [24:40] resign anyone watching this if people actually watch these meetings please [24:45] drive by Henda in West Road it's horrific that lot is a city-owned lot [24:51] and it's absolutely horrific I'm embarrassed weeds are 6 feet high and I [24:57] know the excuses about the dirt pil there but plant a row of Hedges FAS [25:01] nitas or something and hide the thing but no other property in the city could [25:06] look like that without getting code enforcements and it just you know the [25:10] city manager and you know can only do what city counil directs him so you know [25:17] take care of that and if you think that lot looks bad [25:21] why don't you drive by Mr zula's house and I'm just absolutely appalled that Mr [25:27] zoula sitting council member is now wasting City staff time and we finally [25:32] hire a code enforcement man and we're wasting city code enforcement because [25:37] you failed to live by the codes six years ago Norm I stood up here [25:43] and I asked you a question and I said do you live by the general plan and the [25:47] codes or are you just a hypocrite politician that wants to tell other [25:51] people how to live well actions speak louder than words so I'm done with you [25:56] I'm tired of being nice I'm going give you three weeks to hire a contractor and [26:02] pull a permit and replace that roof and clean up your your hedges in your front [26:06] yard after three weeks I'm going to sue you and I'm going to sue the city for [26:11] Selective enforcement and I'm going to go after damages for my avocado Crest [26:16] property that was undervalued because of lack of code enforcement for this city [26:21] I'm putting you on notice I've tried to be nice to all of you and I'm done I'm [26:27] done Norm lastly I just want to say that Norm [26:31] zoula and Carol Engelhart they don't represent me and they don't represent [26:35] 98% of the city I worked hard I saved my money I've [26:41] made 20 30 40 years worth of mortgage payments to live here I didn't just wait [26:45] till my mom and dad died and then inherit the house you didn't earn it and [26:50] it shows by the respect you have for the city and by the respect that you give to [26:55] our codes so I wish City Council would start actually doing some things and so [27:01] that I don't have to play hard ball but one way or another I really like this [27:05] city there's some wonderful people here and I'm tired of things not getting done [27:10] thank you thank you are there any other public [27:21] comment committee [27:26] comments should we go back I can do the uh Hab habitat and vector control oh I'm [27:33] sorry yeah I'm sorry Kath sitting there patiently thank [27:38] you I back to 4 a Katherine Howen from the py hills habitat preservation [27:44] Authority technical advisory committee and vector control thank you for your [27:49] patience hey I want to thank you for the time it's been I know [27:54] it's can you hear me okay it's quite it's [28:01] how how's that better okay good evening mayor anglehart [28:07] members of the council staff and citizens of La Harbor Heights well thank [28:12] you very much for the time to be able to talk about these two things but I'm [28:17] Kathy Howen a resident of La Harbor Heights who is appointed by the city [28:20] council along with Roy Francis and Adam nazarov to sit on this the uh habitat [28:27] count Authority citizen tactical advisory committee and I'm here to [28:31] update you on what's going on in July the habitat Authority board [28:37] unanimously voted to form a legal entity called the community facilities district [28:42] and I put a map in front of all of you there or the cfd which allowed the [28:47] habitat authority to place measure pH on the November 2024 general election [28:53] ballot within the district's boundaries measure pH is a special tax [28:59] of 1 cent per building square foot and that's building not your whole property [29:04] so if you have let's say an 800 square foot 1,800 square foot house that would [29:10] be $118 a year that they're asking for from you the equivalence of maybe two to [29:15] three Starbucks right the key projects funded by this [29:20] special tax would include the first would be the preserved security and [29:24] maintenance of the natural habitats including powder Canyon Canda Hills [29:29] turble Canyon Sycamore Canyon Helman Park and Aurora pescadera for security [29:35] which includes law enforcement and Fire Prevention we have the Rangers from the [29:39] mrca and we do contract with the various agencies to do repairs like failing [29:45] Trails due to heavy rains the second would be preventing [29:50] wildfires our R our Rangers are extensively trained Wildland [29:55] firefighters they maintain Parkers Ranger patrols for fire safety and [30:00] emergency response for example on July the 4th weekend the park rangers along [30:06] with many volunteers patrolled the trail heads and some of the trails of the [30:11] habitat and the third would be clearing brush from homes and emergency access [30:16] road and the habitat Authority has finished its annual clearance of brush [30:21] and tree review a removal from homes and emergency access roads in La Harbor [30:25] Heights we actually had goats clear 11 acres of powder Canyon this year as [30:32] well and also the fourth would be protecting the [30:36] natural lands from threats like homeless encampments vandalism and illegal [30:41] dumping all the funds from measure PH will be locally controlled they will not [30:48] be taken away by the state or used for any other purpose so why is the habitat [30:54] Authority doing this the habitat Authority faces an on goinging [30:58] structural deficit and without an additional stable funding source they [31:02] will be forced to make additional cuts which could and right now it's quite a [31:09] um shoestring type of um amount of money that they have you know it's really the [31:16] funds are really limited and this what this could do is eliminate Rangers Park [31:22] man maintenance staff and limit access for individuals and families to the [31:27] trail and the the open [31:30] spaces so this is why they're wanting to do [31:34] this now if you want to get out and exercise and enjoy nature we have many [31:38] public hikes available led by our volunteer doents in powder Canyon we [31:43] have two hikes at 5:00 sharp on Sundays and Thursdays during and this is [31:49] starting at the black walnut Trail off of Fullerton Road so please visit our [31:54] website habitat author authority.org or meet [31:58] up.org and look under the poy Hills Preserve hikers to join and everyone is [32:04] welcome to these and as always please visit us at habitat authority.org at our [32:11] Facebook Instagram Twitter or meetup.com Pages for more up toate information [32:17] about happenings and events and links are found on our website habitat [32:22] authority.org I do encourage all residents to feel free to reach out to [32:27] Roy Adam or myself on any questions you may [32:30] have about the habitat and that is my one on the [32:37] habitat I also represent the harra heights On The Board of Trustees for the [32:42] Greater Los Angeles vector control district and I want just a reminder if [32:47] you wish to visit vector control or contact them for any reason you need to [32:52] contact the LA District not Orange County because we are La haror Heights [32:57] is in LA County so one animal on this earth that could affect your health for [33:01] the rest of your life or cause death is a [33:05] mosquito if you're being bothered by mosquitoes you need to find out why they [33:08] are around so this month there were 22 nonhuman cases of West Nile Virus versus [33:16] 36 cases last year in California five of those were in Fresno and the rest are [33:22] scattered around the San Fernando Valley so it's not in this area and so far [33:27] we've had two human cases of westnile virus in California this year and in La [33:33] Harbor Heights vector control had four service requests for mosquito activity [33:38] and all were negative and treated our technician found mosquito activity in [33:43] areas of La Harbor Heights six in pools four in USD Lids one in gutter spots and [33:49] 20 in other non-p poool locations mosquitoes don't fly far from [33:54] their water sources so if you don't have any standing water anywhere and have a [33:59] lot of mosquitoes maybe your F your neighbors do to help control the [34:04] mosquito population just do the simple Act of dumping out the water in the [34:08] various receptacles in your property at least once a week keep an eye on what [34:13] could be potential sources of mosquito growth our technician would be happy to [34:18] come out and show you what could be potential sources that you [34:22] have and here's something interesting the greater La vector control district [34:26] along with Orange County County are looking for ways to reduce the mosquito [34:31] population one stud one study that we are doing is called the sterile insect [34:35] technique or sit what we're doing is sterilizing male [34:40] aides egypti mosquitoes and releasing them weekly into a specific area to see [34:46] if the numbers of of the mosquito population drop and this is a pilot [34:51] study so far in the initial studies they are seeing some decrease in mosquito [34:55] population so it's very promising Ing and I hope the future shows even more [35:00] promise and the reason why we're picking the 80s egypti mosquito is because they [35:05] carry the zika virus dangi fever yellow fever and CH Ching Kong [35:12] Chung uh virus I can't say that right and in the meantime while we're [35:18] working on this we're looking for ways to control the is the a city's egyp ey [35:23] populations that are plaguing our residents and pose a risk for local [35:27] transmission of tropical diseases that are being brought into LA with [35:33] Travelers and there has been an unprecedented onslaught of imported [35:37] cases of dangi fever as a disease is going rampid throughout the world and [35:41] residents are returning with infections from travels near and far for each case [35:48] report that results in an extensive door-to-door inspection and treatment [35:53] campaign so if anyone ever has it in La Harbor Heights you may find vector [35:58] control knocking on your door please let them in and do the appropriate [36:04] treatments and uh La greater La um Vector District also bought a new [36:11] facility in pacomia and at this time they're setting up a lab for the [36:16] mosquito rearing for the sit program and so for more information go to the [36:21] website Glam mosquito. org we do have a lot of various educational program [36:27] programs and a lot of information to help you out and that's [36:33] that thank you very much [36:39] Kathy committee [36:43] comments city council [36:49] comments Mr PPA so a you I I have a few number one um I want to thank the uh the [36:56] laab heights uh Improvement Association uh they just W wrapped up this year's [37:01] music in the park uh I know I saw many of you there from many of the events um [37:06] it's always sad when the last one ends because it's kind of the end of summer [37:09] and we're moving into moving into fall but I think they did a pretty amazing [37:14] job of putting that together and you know if you're a resident of the city [37:17] you should really look into you're not a member of the Improvement [37:22] Association I would highly recommend um joining I think everyone gets their [37:27] monthly news uh monthly uh little magazine in [37:32] the mail regardless of whether you're a member uh but they produced that um also [37:37] on October 5th I believe it is is the uh Community uh yard sale uh uh they uh [37:45] Susan Brooks uh kind of did it herself last year and um this year here I think [37:50] the Improvement Association is taking it on I look forward to that I think that's [37:53] going to be a a wonderful Community event um I also o want to thank uh all [37:58] the volunteers that came out uh and also thank Susan and John Susan Brooks and [38:03] John Dominguez for organizing our quarterly cleanup um I remember when I [38:08] moved into the city back in 1998 that uh we used to do that and it [38:12] was always kind of neat to you know get out meet meet the uh meet your neighbors [38:17] that you normally don't get to see and uh and then go have a nice cup of coffee [38:20] afterwards uh which I know several several of the folks did so uh also want [38:25] to thank the staff for for keeping us safe I know um uh there were some not so [38:30] nice things said by people driving by in cars as we tried to to pick up the trash [38:34] on the side of the road and then lastly um just the shout out to the [38:39] EPC uh I think everyone kind of felt it today the the Pasadena earthquake um it [38:45] was a small one uh but we've had a couple now that have shook the [38:50] heights uh you know the EPC is producing a bunch of preparedness materials both [38:56] for Wildfire fire but also for earthquake preparedness I know firewatch [39:01] um which is our local um Community uh firewatch group has put out some [39:06] material Kathy soel has put it out uh around uh preparedness so not only do [39:12] you need to be prepared for your family up here but make sure that you're [39:15] thinking about your pets especially if you have large animals that have water [39:19] needs uh one of you know we're seeing this in palace veres with the land [39:23] movement issue is that water is usually the first thing to get impacted [39:26] especially during land movement events up in Pasadena the city hall even had an [39:30] issue even in a small earthquake with some water pipes breaking so make sure [39:35] you have sufficient water for your large animals and animals um you know to get [39:39] you through at least 72 hours I think is the [39:41] recommendation uh make sure you have sufficient food for your animals to get [39:45] through 72 hours and that you kind of keep that separate so you don't lose [39:49] track of what you're doing anyone [39:54] else I too would like to um thank John Dominguez who's here tonight is there a [40:00] way to train the camera on him if he doesn't speak or and and also Susan [40:05] Brooks they revived the trash pickup along Henda and it was well attended and [40:11] the street always looks so nice oh thank you for for a short period of time okay [40:19] administrative reports thank you mayor and Council [40:23] couple items for you tonight uh over the weekend there was a birthday party for [40:29] one of our longest term fire department volunteers Joan clenin Stein she was a [40:35] uh part of the dispatch component of our fire department all the way back in the [40:39] day when it was purely volunteers and residents that pitched in and helped out [40:44] um she recently turned 99 so they had a nice big celebration for her over the [40:47] weekend um and we were able to bring out engine 772 to wish her a happy birthday [40:53] so the the Chiefs uh Chief briser and chief Martin along with Captain Harris [40:58] and another another retired captain that happened to be here um in town for [41:02] another event that doesn't even live in in the area anymore was here and he [41:05] wanted to go over and wish Joan a happy birthday so it was a very nice event we [41:10] were able to go over and wish Joan a happy 99th and and many more um she's [41:14] always been an integral part of the volunteer part of the fire department [41:19] it's we dealing with dispatch and all the way in from when they used to be [41:22] everybody at home that would pick up the phone and answer the phone calls all the [41:26] way into our now professional um dispatch that goes through the county [41:30] system so she was an integral part of that fire department for a very long [41:33] time so we just wanted to thank her and it was a great event to to go out and [41:37] wish her a happy birthday for that one and also as mayor Pro pespisa touched on [41:43] the there is going to be a yard sale coming up October 5th um the price is [41:48] $15 and the spaces will be a little larger this time so it'll be 20 by 20 um [41:53] last time they were 10 by 10 um so this go around the the spaces will be bigger [41:59] um they're looking at having a little more spaces so it won't be as restricted [42:04] if you're very interested please reach out um to the Improvement Association is [42:08] taking that one over um they do have an email out there it's LHH yardale [42:13] gmail.com um reach out to that one and they will help you get connected to it [42:18] um and get going we do have some flyers that are sitting here at the C the [42:21] counter at City Hall um for that but also a couple of walk talks will be [42:25] heading out for that one but very good event very well attended last year and [42:28] we heard a lot of great things from the community related to to that yard sale [42:32] event so we're looking forward to another one um we do have two pretty [42:36] significant um traffic control things that'll be [42:40] going on tomorrow um along Henda Road there has been some copper theft from [42:44] the Telecommunications lines um so Frontier is going to be doing some [42:49] single lane closures along Hender road tomorrow um to replace a [42:55] large section of lines that was stolen off that was stolen um so they'll be out [43:00] doing single lane closures and things as they work to replace those lines along [43:04] Henda Road um and at the same time Southern California gadison will be [43:07] doing some road work on um Harbor um so you've seen if you've gone up and down [43:12] Harbor recently you see message boards there that say road closed um for the [43:16] most part it will be single Lane on both directions of Harbor there will be a [43:21] short period where they will fully close Harbor as they string a cable across the [43:25] roadway and make a replacement of a line so for a short period of time um Harbor [43:29] will be closed on August 13th otherwise it will just be single lane closures on [43:33] Harbor Boulevard that'll be tomorrow same thing on Hos andas Frontier Works [43:37] to make those repairs of um the lines from the copper theft that's happening [43:42] ever more often to it and also too I'd like to thank uh Mr Dominguez and Mrs [43:47] Brooks for the working to coordinate that cleanup of fana Road it was a it [43:53] was a great event we had a good time out there I me we kind of split into two [43:56] groups there was a group that worked here from City Hall all the way up to [43:59] East Road and a group that went from Skyline down to the north city limit I [44:03] was working with that group there we actually made it through that part [44:06] pretty quick so we said hey let's go from Skyline all the way down to canat [44:10] sombre then we cleaned down to to canat sombre so it was it was a nice event [44:14] very well attended it was great to see the the group of people out from that [44:19] have did it when we used to do it back in the day as as AER Pro was talking [44:23] about to new residents that are just doing it for the first time this around [44:27] so it was a very nice event it was a a great thing to do that's all I have [44:31] tonight thank you city attorney's report nothing other than we met on the items [44:36] listed in closed session and there's no reportable action that is all Community [44:42] Development report Mr wridge thank you mayor um so the [44:47] Community Development report for this month uh building department issued 15 [44:50] building permits um and collected permit fees of a little bit over [44:54] $166,000 we took in two code enforcement complaints um we have 25 Active cases [44:59] and closed seven cases during the month of sorry it's July June it's July um we [45:05] issued four stop work orders during July um and closed six of those ille [45:10] unpermitted construction cases I'm bringing that to 65 we also took in [45:15] seven development applications and planning and approved nine projects if [45:19] you have any questions I'm happy to answer them for [45:21] you any questions fire chief's report [45:27] well good evening Fire Chiefs report we can go over that real quick um we had 60 [45:32] calls this month which is seems to be pretty average it seems like we're [45:36] running about 58 to 62 calls monthly we did have one significant fire call it [45:42] was small but it was a brush fire on July 21st 20 24 about 2m we had a brush [45:49] fire breakout um in chaperel and uh and grass on Walnut [45:56] Street um we were able to respond quickly the volunteer fire department [45:59] got in there quickly a good size up report was made and uh resources from uh [46:06] the County of Los Angeles and the laab Heights Fire department were able to [46:10] subdue that fire keep it from getting any bigger but that's like our first [46:14] brush fire that we've had we're fortunate that there wasn't any wind [46:17] blowing um I was asked to U mention after hearing some of the talk tonight [46:24] about things that are somewhat negative let's talk a little bit about some [46:27] wonderful people in laaber Heights so uh I wanted to bring up the uh W the um [46:35] party that we had this weekend this recognition of uh the wings uh family [46:40] and our and our interaction as a fire department with that family Caitlyn and [46:44] Martin W Wings whose grandmother lives here in the Heights was having a party [46:50] for a birthday party on July 12th 20124 for uh Laura Li she was a 2y year [46:57] old and uh Charlotte her sister was three years old at the time Charlotte [47:01] drowned uh had a near drowning in the pool theab Heights Fire department [47:05] volunteers responded and they took over the [47:09] scene uh Charlotte was pulled out of the water she was uh she was unconscious not [47:14] breathing CPR was started uh the laab heights volunteers showed up applied [47:18] supplemental OT started an IV went code 3 to Whittier Presbyterian hospital and [47:24] she survived Charlotte was here this weekend with her parents and the [47:28] original crew that was on that incident we all had a celebration here in at the [47:33] in the council chambers uh to acknowledge those uh that event and [47:38] Charlotte was here she was 13 now she's uh she was at the the the uh party and [47:44] so were the old crew it was a very positive thing to happen also I wanted [47:48] to just mention uh Joan kapenstein um her 99th birthday uh for those of you [47:54] who don't know Joan she's kind of a legend around here here I didn't know [47:57] Joan it was the first time that I've I've heard of her heard heard rumor of [48:01] her heard that she was like one of our first dispatchers when the department [48:04] was volunteer but uh Janes spent 43 years as a volunteer dispatcher for the [48:09] laaber heights both as when it was the all Vol back in the all volunteer days [48:13] that some of you might remember and then during the transition to the more modern [48:17] Department that we know today Joan in 1968 Joan's oldest son Paul volunteered [48:22] to train as a firefighter with the laab heights volunteer fire department and he [48:25] persuaded his mother to join the department as a dispatcher so it was a [48:29] family business Mark and James uh Jon's other two sons also became volunteer [48:35] firefighters and uh Joan has said that all dispatching was done from their [48:39] homes there were five dispatchers they all had special phones installed and [48:43] when A call came in all five dispatchers were notified at one time each one had a [48:48] radio and a fire telephone for receiving the calls calls first came into an [48:52] answering service then they were transferred to the dispatchers on the [48:55] fire on the Fire phones in their homes then they would dispatch from there um [49:00] Joan thought the dispatchers ought to have volunteer fire department badges [49:05] but the chief at the time kind of scoffed at that and said where would you [49:08] wear them on your bathrobes so uh Joan created an [49:13] official red phone that she that she sewed onto five official bathrobes that [49:19] she issued to all five of the uh of the dispatchers in the city and I I gave you [49:24] the handout here that shows that she did that she's quite an an amazing woman um [49:29] we would uh they she created the official bathrobes for the dispatchers [49:34] uh when dispatching moved from the resident's homes into the fire stations [49:37] Joan moved in to become the first fire captain to accommodate and and [49:41] Communications chief for the Department she trained many fire service graduates [49:45] and students who worked in the department turning them into in her [49:48] words fine clear speaking dispatchers and I can't tell you how important it is [49:52] when you're on the radio and you're managing something to have clear and [49:56] concise communication I push it very hard with the volunteers that we push to [50:00] talk we don't push to think over the radio if you can kind of catch that [50:05] meaning uh anyway it was our 99th birthday uh a huge group of people [50:10] showed up and celebrated that we all went down there and acknowledged her so [50:14] there is one of your one of your key residents in laab Heights Joan K Klo [50:21] kapenstein kste John kapenstein your first dispatcher I'm proud to say um [50:27] also uh so I mentioned the fire and then um there were three um after July 21st [50:34] properties located at the high and very high fire SE severity zones requiring [50:38] documentation of compliant defensible space [50:41] inspections according to ab38 uh assembly 38 were uh were conducted and [50:48] to for real estate sales disclosures and documentation only so people that have [50:52] to go through these they don't need to worry about it we're going to go up [50:54] there and do a fire inspection but it's just for sales per purposes only um the [50:59] uh Chief alal they did three inspections in July in accordance to ab38 if there [51:04] are any other questions I can answer them that's end of [51:09] report any questions I would like to make a [51:13] followup comment on the wing matter and thank the chief um Caitlyn Wing kind of [51:22] decided on her own that she would honor the par Medics and staff that were [51:28] on duty back in was it 2014 when her her daughter almost [51:35] drowned and the chief and Don sterk I guess I've um did a wonderful job uh and [51:43] it was it was really nice seeing some of the guys that had actually been at that [51:49] event and one of the gentlemen I can't remember his name he had saved the call [51:55] sheet and actually he was I can't articulate it it [52:00] it was really down when he read the call sheet but they went out anyway and it [52:04] all turned out wonderful and I really um think we cannot thank our fire people [52:09] and our paramedics enough because they actually do save a lot of lives thank [52:15] you so much um Sheriff's Department report good afternoon we had one uh [52:23] reported burglary on uh excuse me Elka [52:28] Hita that took place on the 4th of July we also had one vehicle burglary that [52:35] occurred that occurred at powder Canyon Trail um the parking [52:41] area just a reminder that all valuables should be kept at home in the trunk or [52:48] uh or take them with you because this happens almost every month at uh [52:54] powdered Canyon Trail we had identity theft one vandalism that took place on [52:59] Fullerton Road but I drove there this morning and I didn't see any vandalism [53:02] so it might have been cleaned up and one petty [53:05] theft for the month of July any [53:10] questions Mr pispa uh Deputy Beltran um sir I I've [53:15] become aware of some copper theft along Henda uh I I didn't hear that in your [53:19] report has there been a the copper theft I reported it was reported today oh was [53:26] reported yeah it was just reported this morning I took a report okay cuz it it's [53:30] occurred now in three three separate places along Henda yeah they just told [53:34] me about it uh I did do one report this morning uh was uh according to the U [53:40] employees of uh Frontier yeah it was $220,000 worth of copper yeah it's hard [53:46] to believe that that that much copper is these these these copper wires are not [53:52] your usual what people imagine it they're pretty it's almost 2 in thick [53:57] and there's a lot of copper inside of it yeah now [54:01] I I believe it happened this weekend the time we can't no it's been a couple [54:06] weeks well there was one this morning yeah I'm I'm yeah I I actually talked to [54:11] the frontier folks and there was there was one that happened a couple weeks ago [54:14] it started a couple weeks ago um and and the only reason I bring it up and maybe [54:18] we can get some you know I I know it's hard at night to get Folks up here from [54:24] this sheriff's department but maybe you know they can just drive up and down [54:28] Henda and just look at it cuz while while it impacts Frontier what who it [54:32] really impacts are residents that for the last two weeks have not had phone or [54:38] Internet service because of the outage safy issue right so there's a safety [54:43] issue with it too they can't di on 911 or there's no reception and it comes a [54:48] serious uh yeah so safety issue I just you know if you have an opportunity to [54:53] you know at briefing at industry just to ask you know not a lot just if you got 5 [54:59] minutes drive up and down Henda and just make sure there's no one cutting the the [55:02] phone cables on the poles [55:07] absolutely any other questions moving on to the consent [55:11] calendar items 9 through 13 does anyone wish to pull any [55:17] item may I have a motion I move to accept the consent [55:23] items second Mr zazula yes Mr PPA yes Mr larity yes [55:31] Mr Bergman yes and Englehart is a yes item 14 protest hearing on unpaid brush [55:38] clearance costs Mr wridge thank you mayor um this item before you tonight is [55:44] related to the clearance of properties related to brush clearance um there are [55:48] four four properties that have been cleared by the department um as part of [55:52] our blush brush clearance program um they went all the way through the [55:55] process were abated um and those are ready for the lean process to that um so [56:02] tonight uh the action would be for the the city council to overrule any [56:06] protests offered during the protest hearing and adopt resolution 20 [56:11] 24-24 confirming the report of costs incurred by the city and authorizing the [56:15] assessment of as leans to be placed on the tax rols effective August 12th 2024 [56:20] or amend the charges to be assessed and place the leans as followed and adopt [56:23] the resolution if you have any questions I'm happy to answer [56:27] any questions should open the hearing are [56:31] there any protests or comments hearing none return it may I [56:37] have a [56:50] motion I make a motion that we adopt resolution number 20 24-24 confirming [56:56] um the reported costs incurred by the city and authorizing the assessment as [57:01] Lan to be placed on the tax rolls effective August 12 2024 second Mr [57:07] zazula yes Mr PPA yes Engle harsy yes Mr larity yes and Mr Bergman yes okay we've [57:15] already done 15 and 16 17 fiscal year 2223 Street Improvement project Zone 4 [57:23] Henda Road did I do something here so for the record the recusal is because [57:29] of the location of your property correct yeah [57:37] oh okay Mr [57:41] wridge thank you mayor and Council um this item before you tonight is to award [57:46] contract for the fiscal year 2022 203 Street Improvement project uh zone four [57:52] Hina Road and East Road um this project uh before the [57:57] council a little while ago um we had opened bids for the project and the bids [58:01] came in um at about 1.7 million which was way above what the engineer's [58:08] estimate was and what we expected to to have related to the the project um so [58:14] staff and city engineer went back and met with the roads advisory committee's [58:19] design subcommittee they relooked at the projects revised the project the scope [58:24] of the project um and did a couple of things [58:27] they reduced the number of streets that we would be worked on and they also [58:30] created a few additional alternate bid items so typically we'll have one or two [58:36] alternate bid items one of those alterntive bid items generally is crack [58:40] seal there's Council usually has a think for us to be able to do $30,000 worth of [58:45] crack seal as part of the projects um and so that is typically one of the [58:49] alternate bids and there might be an additional Street or two that we would [58:52] look at as an alternate bid um but after opening that bid [58:56] um the design subcommittee did a lot of very good work in looking at the roads [59:01] um to work on the roads that needed the work the most up front um so the project [59:07] the base bid of the project was revised to include work on Skyline lucadia and [59:14] panoy um in those areas up up in that location as the the base bid and the [59:20] alternate bid item one is for crack sealing so we would crack seal the areas [59:25] that were as part of the 1718 project um which is a regular cycle and process of [59:31] of maintenance for that so that crack seal would be on Reposado [59:36] alocate half of Church Hill and papaya are the streets that we did in the 1718 [59:42] project that would be done for alternate bid one is the crack seal component [59:46] alternate bid 2 um is a work on um reconstructing deep Canyon so deep [59:54] Canyon is over off of East Road close close to papaya um that street has had [59:58] some significant deterioration over the years um so alternate bid two would be [1:00:05] essentially that area needs to be all RNR so removed and replaced um and [1:00:09] reconstructed and Alternate bid three would be for repaving of green view the [1:00:15] public portion of green view about half of green View Road is public and the [1:00:19] other half is private so alternate B item three would be to do that would be [1:00:23] to pay from Reposado um all all the way to where it it changes to the private [1:00:28] side of Green view um if you we we rebid the project um and open those bids a [1:00:35] couple of weeks ago um we received uh five people pulled bid packets um we [1:00:42] received four bids from Onyx Paving Company RJ Noble Hardy and Harper Inc [1:00:47] and All-American asphalt um where the four companies that submitted bids uh [1:00:51] for that included the base and the alternate bids um if you include the [1:00:56] base and all the alternate bids together um the lowest responsive bidder would be [1:01:01] Onyx Paving for a total of 1, 369,000 um so that would be the option [1:01:09] to award the base plus the three alternates ultimately the way it was [1:01:13] broken up Council can award their contract based off any combination of [1:01:17] the base bid or base bid plus alternate or alternates um the only thing is that [1:01:24] has to be from one contractor so depending on if you look at wanting [1:01:28] to approve a base plus a certain alternate the contractor that is the [1:01:33] lowest bidder may change based on which bid item you're looking at um staff is [1:01:39] making the recommendation that we award based on the base bid and the three [1:01:44] alternates um so that would be awarding the contract to Onyx Paving Company in [1:01:48] the amount of 1 M 369,000 um as the second component of [1:01:54] these Street Improvement projects is the construction management and the [1:01:57] inspection portion of it and for that we reached out to our engineering firm nv5 [1:02:02] to receive a proposal for doing the inspection Management Services [1:02:07] construction management services and the inspection of it including materials [1:02:11] testing and labor compliance component of it um so their their proposal for the [1:02:16] that component of it is [1:02:20] $2,364 um so cmn inspection is done as like time and material so they look at [1:02:27] the whole project to look at the amount of working days that are in there so [1:02:33] inspection is scheduled for they gave a bid for 80 working days as part of the [1:02:39] inspection the reality is generally our projects don't do 80 days worth of [1:02:43] inspections so they would only bill for the time that they're actually doing [1:02:46] inspections so for like the inspector it would be at the time for meetings that [1:02:51] we have and progressor meetings pre-construction meetings and their time [1:02:54] in the field doing in inspection um they would bill us for those hours that they [1:02:58] work same thing with the construction manager it would be the the time that [1:03:03] leads up going through the material submittals and preconstruction progress [1:03:09] through it and close out um so it's not that we would award an agreement to nv5 [1:03:14] and they would collect $192,000 it's based on what they built [1:03:18] so typically our cmn inspection usually comes in less than that because they [1:03:23] don't typically work the entire time as far as like days of inspection in the [1:03:27] field which is the most costly component of it um theirs also includes labor [1:03:33] compliance since this is a prevailing wage there are certain requirements that [1:03:36] have to be done as part of the construction so there's interviews with [1:03:40] the workers from the construction companies we have to review their [1:03:43] payroll the s a certified payroll we have to do all of those and report all [1:03:47] of that to the state and also includes materials testing and and inspections um [1:03:52] as needed for the project so staff is recommending that [1:03:56] the city council W the fiscal year 2022 23 Street Improvement project um [1:04:02] Construction contract to onx Paving Company in the amount of [1:04:06] $1,369 th000 authorize a contingency for this project in the amount of 15% award [1:04:12] the construction management and inspection contract to nv5 in the amount [1:04:16] of $192,300 and authorize the finance [1:04:22] manager to amend the F the fiscal year 2024 25 bu budget to increase count [1:04:27] number 10450 PWD 6830 by7 [1:04:52] 725,000 is in addition to the 1.36 9 million correct how does this fit with [1:04:59] the original expectations of uh the assessment as we've gone along our costs [1:05:07] have definitely increased especially over the last few years um so our costs [1:05:11] have continue to increase for the projects as we've gone on from when that [1:05:15] the assessment was originally put in place so where would the [1:05:20] excess dollars come from it comes from the general fund from the which general [1:05:31] fund is that 192,000 do you feel that's realistic for what they're [1:05:37] doing I I would say it's going to be less than that on average construction [1:05:42] time for the street projects we usually don't see a go past 60 days um just on [1:05:48] average it's generally less than that we're usually in the 45 to to 50 60 at [1:05:53] the long end of a project um so you know they they write those proposals to [1:05:58] include sort of the worst case scenario of time so like 80 Days of construction [1:06:04] so inspector is generally not going to be out here for 80 days which would [1:06:08] represent a significant Savings in that amount of money okay thank [1:06:16] you Mr Bergman um this one if I look at nv5 you know the proposal this time [1:06:23] versus what they've done in the past this is considerably [1:06:27] more it's like almost double so the um I mean do you have to have somebody [1:06:36] on out here every single day during that uh when they start the [1:06:42] paving project yes well that that is the best recommendation to have our [1:06:46] inspector here while they're doing the [1:06:53] work and their proposal they you know they give the who's going to be doing [1:06:58] the work you know their their primary inspector would be Mike Elma he's done a [1:07:02] project here in the heights for us he did a project the one we did with RJ [1:07:05] Noble um which included like Cypress and nbal and dorothia and and those areas [1:07:11] over there so he's very familiar with the community and the train and and [1:07:15] getting people in and out so he's he's well experienced with the the heights [1:07:26] I guess I'm sort of based on they've almost doubled their price I have a real [1:07:29] concern with the um pricing struction [1:07:35] and I mean maybe we need to go out for a bid on this thing I'll [1:07:41] say Peter Sago who is the construction manager for it does an amazing job he is [1:07:48] I think you worked with him in other communities he does a lot of other work [1:07:51] for other communities even in their city that that City he represents he's very [1:07:56] thorough he tracks things well he keeps everybody on their toes he makes sure [1:08:00] all the submittals are in and reproved um their inspectors do an amazing job as [1:08:06] part of it they they do good work in this aspect of [1:08:11] it I guess if uh myself personally if I approve this tonight I want you to go [1:08:17] back to nv5 and they need to sharpen their pencil on this thing because it's [1:08:22] it's you look at what they charged is in the past and what it is now it's U it's [1:08:27] a huge increase on this prior Street [1:08:33] project it's I know we have a working relationship obviously with that guy [1:08:39] we've also split this Pro we've split this up in the past and that project [1:08:44] didn't go so well I understand that I understand that [1:08:49] that's they can also sharpen their pencil and then believe me like Peter [1:08:54] tracks his hours they track their hours very carefully to know that to watch [1:08:59] exactly where they are and let us know where they are in [1:09:03] their in their hour range of what they put it in the proposal I mean if they [1:09:08] have to be out here they have to be out here I understand that [1:09:13] but I don't want them out here if they don't have to necessarily be here type [1:09:17] thing and I guess that puts work on you to manage that [1:09:20] situation yeah definitely they are not any more than they need to be I mean if [1:09:25] if the contractor isn't working or doing something that needs to be inspected [1:09:30] generally aren't here in a situation like this as a city [1:09:34] ever hired a civil engineer with some background in working with streets and [1:09:39] Roads hire them [1:09:43] independently we have not done that aspect of it [1:10:03] if you had to use somebody else who would you reach out to we would have to [1:10:07] put it out to [1:10:16] bid mean I'm just concerned that there's such a vast increase on this thing over [1:10:20] the last one sure you notice that too [1:10:27] and I don't know if the Project's that much different or what they've done on [1:10:31] the whole thing but [1:10:51] uh I guess it's just my feelings I'd like to hear from the rest of the [1:10:57] Council I had a you said um the bid the whole package of the of the paving not [1:11:04] the engineering um was [1:11:07] restructured and what was it the alternates that were taken out of the [1:11:13] bid or was were there other streets that aren't on this proposal that were [1:11:18] deleted there were other streets that were deleted from the base bid aspect of [1:11:23] it so the Bas bid also you can look at alternate two and three were included in [1:11:28] that base bid previously um so and there were other streets that after the [1:11:33] subcommittee looked at they said okay these streets can wait the their PCI [1:11:38] their conditioned they went out they walked the areas again to look at what [1:11:41] could wait and what needed to move forward um for us to figure out what [1:11:45] would put us more into where we would need to be budget [1:11:49] wise okay could we could [1:11:53] we adop adopt the bid by Onyx Paving that hold off on the payment to nv5 [1:12:01] until we've talked to them more about [1:12:06] that we could certainly now how whether how many um administrative hurdles that [1:12:13] creates I don't know but legally you certainly [1:12:17] can administratively it's just going to put [1:12:20] the project behind as we're going to have to wait to move forward with any [1:12:24] sort of submittal so typically out of the gate the first thing we do is we [1:12:28] work through agreements getting so basically kind of that first month is [1:12:32] going to be that it's agreements it's bonds insurance is put in place so we [1:12:36] look we review all those City attorney reviews those construction manager [1:12:39] reviews those and then it's the submittal from the contractor so their [1:12:43] AC mix designs and all of their their tack coats and slurry seals uh crack [1:12:49] seal all of those are submitted for review and approval um through that that [1:12:54] process of it so that part of it would probably be delayed if we if we go out [1:12:58] and circulate a bid to find another [1:13:05] option I've I've heard comments and well since I've been on the council which [1:13:11] isn't that long we saw that nv5 made a very high bid to design the [1:13:19] paving at the Helo hydrant and then there was [1:13:23] another I'm forgetting it now there was another project where where there oh it [1:13:28] was the park it was the diagonal ramp at the park and they submitted an extremely [1:13:35] high bid and when I got first on the council uh one of the members of the [1:13:40] roads committee pointed out that there was a [1:13:44] project I'm not sure which year it was but the cost of the paving increased [1:13:52] which was everybody understood that and then nv5 [1:13:57] just upped their cost to 10 or 15% of whatever the increase was even though [1:14:03] the amount of streets that was covered [1:14:08] um hadn't changed so the little experience I have with this it it just [1:14:14] seems nv5 is is uh has not got a TR good track [1:14:20] record from what I've observed the other thing is if we could save any money I [1:14:24] mean at this point we're being asked to increase this project by 725,000 and [1:14:31] that that comes out of the general fund and as I recall our 25 2425 budget was [1:14:39] like $100,000 from balancing or over is very short so I I would think it would [1:14:47] be worth looking looking at someone else or [1:14:52] having them come back with a a more [1:14:56] accurate a lower [1:15:01] price I if you want us to not have the inspector out there every day we can we [1:15:06] can work that through and look at reduce the hours that they have in for [1:15:13] inspection I just want to work really smart on [1:15:16] this and um I think what we need to do tonight this might just one councilman [1:15:23] speaking is to approved the project with the the total aggregate cost on the [1:15:30] 1369 and give you directions that you have to [1:15:34] go back to nv5 and really really tighten up these numbers and see where they can [1:15:40] pull things out and if uh if they can have the inspect I don't want any [1:15:44] inspector out here if they don't have to be out here type thing if it's on a need [1:15:48] type basis and they have to we're pulling all this money out of the [1:15:52] general fund to make this thing happen and [1:15:55] I understand if you need the inspector out here and you need the management [1:15:59] from that team out here fine but we need to really tighten this up because I look [1:16:06] back on the last proposal from nv5 and this is this is like almost double and [1:16:12] it's um maybe they have more work in it but they need to go back and relook at [1:16:17] the whole thing and that's where I'm coming from that if [1:16:21] you're going to use them you got to really tell them that you've got to [1:16:25] sharpen your pencil and not have any person out here when they don't need to [1:16:28] be type thing and reduce that cost at that [1:16:34] 192 that's just one council [1:16:43] member Mr Zula I'm in substantial agreement with Brian if You' like to [1:16:48] make an motion I'd second it okay well I'm ready to make a motion [1:16:53] then I'll make a motion to award the fiscal year 20 2223 Street Improvement [1:16:59] project to onx Paving Company in the amount of 1, [1:17:02] 369,000 authorize a contingency fee for the project of 50 [1:17:08] 15% and go back to nv5 for um to sharpen their pencil on their whole entire [1:17:15] contract amount and minimize any labor at all [1:17:20] that has to come out here and just use them uh only the [1:17:25] absolute absolute minimum amount and if uh if [1:17:31] they they can't do that or they can't reduce their costs in this thing we're [1:17:35] going to have to go out to bid on it I know that'll slow things down so I don't [1:17:39] really want to do that either and then authorize the finance manager to amend [1:17:43] fiscal year 2024 budget to increase the amount uh of the 725,000 [1:17:55] city manager execute the contracts in a form approved by the City [1:18:00] attorney one second oh oh bar okay well do you have to author [1:18:07] authorize the budget amendment for that full amount if you're hoping well I did [1:18:12] because I I don't know what it's going to be or anything else so at least we [1:18:16] have some latitude in there I think we given clear instruction that this number [1:18:20] has to come [1:18:23] down was is that a second Mr zoua or I think Dennis beat me to it but oh fair [1:18:29] enough um let's see I guess I open for public [1:18:33] comment or I should have done that I hearing nothing um Mr zoua yes Engle [1:18:40] heartsy yes leery yes and Mr Bergman yes okay number 18 does somebody mind [1:18:47] letting Mr oh this pieza back in the room [1:19:17] okay number 18 financial assistance and recovery from the winter [1:19:23] storms thank you May and Council um this is continuing some of the information [1:19:29] that related to our storms from February um as we move for further through the [1:19:34] process um We are continuing through the process with um FEMA we have a dedicated [1:19:40] representative that we work with at FEMA um that we work to put all of our costs [1:19:46] that we've incurred so far in any future future work that may need to be done in [1:19:50] mitigation that we work with that um that individual to help us through that [1:19:54] process um have been working very very well with that aspect of it as moving [1:19:59] forward um so we we meet with them on a pretty much weekly basis from there we [1:20:04] last meeting we worked with um a member of their mitigation staff to look at [1:20:09] some of the areas that we may need to do future mitigation work um so that's [1:20:13] areas of Henda where we saw some failures area of East Road where we saw [1:20:17] some failures also some of the drainage areas that um we saw overrun with debris [1:20:23] from the debris flows that are coming off the Hillside and speaking with the [1:20:27] mitigation expert from FEMA they will come out um and actually walk us through [1:20:32] that and that proposal as well so we're finalizing that damage assessment form [1:20:38] with our representative and are working to schedule a time for the U mitigation [1:20:44] representative to come out um a couple of things that go along with mitigation [1:20:48] aspect of it is um we could you we receive about 100% of what we have in [1:20:53] costs that go out the door as far as emergency work that we have done that we [1:20:58] receive reimbursement for which right now is just a little under half a [1:21:02] million dollar and we receive that in there if we need to go above and beyond [1:21:06] that aspect of it if there is some damage that needs attention and [1:21:10] mitigation work to prevent this in the future um if it's above that half [1:21:14] million dollar Mark and we would have to go through a cost benefit analysis to [1:21:18] see if there is a benefit of doing that work to be able to get there um as part [1:21:22] of it so um we're in that phase with Fem right now um recently you've seen there [1:21:27] some work has happened out on uh some of the roads we made some repairs to East [1:21:32] Road where there was some SL failure in that area um so that stretch at 400 [1:21:36] block of East Road was repaired and so at city engineer worked with um put [1:21:43] together a little bit of bid documents we put that project out to bid um so [1:21:46] that stretch of East Road was actually elevated on one side to help keep the [1:21:51] water to flow pitch to the other side of the road um some burm will be coming in [1:21:55] from there similar on LEF Flo where there was a section where that road [1:22:00] roadside had washed away and we did some repair work along lafl section of [1:22:05] Fullerton Road and East Road as well um with the company CTI um so that Paving [1:22:10] work was recently done the burm work should be happening very very soon um as [1:22:14] part of that so it's all reimbursable costs that go into um [1:22:19] our claim but our paperwork with FEMA as well so all of those things are are [1:22:24] moving through the process um as we speak we're actually meeting with our [1:22:28] representative tomorrow um we have a scheduled meeting with him from there [1:22:32] Tom is there anything else you wanted to add that I might have [1:22:37] missed I don't think he [1:22:42] heard Council has any options we're any questions we're happy to answer Mr bisa [1:22:47] so a couple things um I mayor Englehart and I have met with some of the [1:22:53] residents along hosand that were impacted by the debris flows um are we [1:22:58] going to be able to have some mitigations in place before next [1:23:03] winter we're working on larger mitigation with FEMA um at the same time [1:23:09] city engineer and myself are looking at some more specific things that we could [1:23:13] do now um that may not necessarily be as part of that mitigation work that FEMA [1:23:19] does but things that we can do to some of those drainage facilities at s [1:23:22] impacts um to help prevent this from the next rainy season which is coming up can [1:23:27] we is there a possibility of understanding what those might look like [1:23:31] by October yes okay because i' I'd like to [1:23:35] make sure that they have an opport you know if we can agendize it for October [1:23:39] that would be great and I'd like to invite them to come down to the October [1:23:42] meeting to voice their concerns because they have some pretty specific concerns [1:23:46] about you know what happened and I know the mayor and I have been um trying to [1:23:52] help them understand the process we go through to make changes to both drainage [1:23:56] and possibly even the road so i' like to agendize that if possible uh number [1:24:05] two is Mr Brooks brought up and I'll agree with him on this one thing Weston [1:24:11] Hender really is an isore um I I hope that part [1:24:16] of the the recovery plan is to remove the tons and tons and tons of storm [1:24:23] debris that have been dumped there and it's now I mean we're several months [1:24:27] from the event is there a plan to remove and and restore that lot back to the [1:24:32] condition it was in before the storm there is um as part of the fuma process [1:24:37] we have to remove those debris in a very specific fashion um we also have to bid [1:24:42] that process out so Grace has been in the process of bidding it we were just [1:24:46] waiting for the last bid to come in we need the three we need at least three [1:24:50] bids as part of our purchasing policy to be able to do that um and we're just the [1:24:55] last bid is coming in right now so once we have that then we can move forward [1:24:59] with it it's not going to be inexpensive to remove that from the property um but [1:25:04] it would remove all of that material that was staged or deposited on West [1:25:09] Nanda and we'll get recovery for those costs we have it already we already have [1:25:14] it as a line item in our recovery cost once we have the hard cost we'll be able [1:25:17] to add that dollar figure to it okay I had a question about Western Henda the [1:25:24] the the burms they're there to keep people off the property I mean it's not [1:25:30] like it's going to end up being a flat piece of land no I was talking about no [1:25:34] I agree the BMS need to stay it was specific to the the debris that was [1:25:39] placed there I BMS were there before the storm so yeah I don't know if it was Mr [1:25:44] Brooks or Mr Fernandez were complaining about I think it was Mr Fernandez was [1:25:48] complaining about the BMS but yeah well we can I mean as a council we can talk [1:25:55] about what we want to do with that piece of property I guess I mean I think [1:25:58] there's some ideas maybe we need to resurrect those in the near future about [1:26:03] what we should do with that property so maybe that's another thing [1:26:07] we agendize for later in the year thank you anyone else okay number [1:26:14] 19 project updates thank you Council um looks like [1:26:20] we're still in the window for October for delivery the new type 1 engine um so [1:26:27] hopefully we should be getting that soon it's going through the production [1:26:29] process right now as we see we made some pretty significant uh progress on the [1:26:33] solid waste agreement tonight we'll continue to work city attorney's office [1:26:37] to finalize the agreement with we and bring that back to the council for you [1:26:41] to ratify um and put that into place as we roll that out to the October [1:26:46] changeover from Republic to now wear Disposal Services as part of that so [1:26:51] that's a very good thing there I assess accessibility improvements at the park [1:26:57] uh we are meeting this week with our representative from cdbg related to the [1:27:01] funding that we can utilize for the ramp to clarify and finalize if we can do a [1:27:07] design build aspect of it or if they need plans to be reviewed and approved [1:27:11] as part of their project before they can authorize us to spend money on it um so [1:27:17] uh this this coming Wednesday our representative from cdbg our community [1:27:21] development block block block grant program um will be coming out and [1:27:25] meeting with us in Walking the site of the park so we can finalize that so if [1:27:29] we can do a design build aspect of it we can move forward with design build um [1:27:33] instead of preparing plans and then going out to bid for for construction um [1:27:38] she she was looking at there is the potential for it um to go through that [1:27:42] design build process she just needed to finalize or gather some more information [1:27:46] from her side from her her uh fellow colleagues and then we'll meet and [1:27:51] discuss that on Wednesday we'll meet with her as that part of it [1:27:54] um h Road saf safety Improvement plan so avocado Crest signal um contractor has [1:28:01] the big things in as far as the polls traffic cabinets and the um controller [1:28:08] for the signal are in and ordered the roads committee reviewed the signage [1:28:13] that will go on the polls um as part of their their packet that they looked at [1:28:17] last month they made a recommendation to have those signs that hang that on the [1:28:22] pole let's say h Road and avocado Crest um to match our regular street signs [1:28:26] that we have so we'll include City seal and have a bit of orange around the [1:28:31] border of it so what our regular street signs look like our illuminated signs on [1:28:36] the signal will look similar and we'll use that as we move replace the other [1:28:41] signage along henda's Road at the other signals West Henda East in Henda there [1:28:46] isn't any signal any signage like that at uh Skyline so as we replace those in [1:28:51] the future we can make that all consistent and keep that moving forward [1:28:54] they have a tentative turn on date of March 2025 for the signal that will be [1:29:01] the completion of having the signal in tested and all of the striping and [1:29:05] signage being replaced on Henda by March of 2025 is is the [1:29:11] contractor's best schedule at the moment so for that one the measure W monies um [1:29:19] we've received monies related to that and we're in the process of scheduling [1:29:23] those Works to be done um we have been working with uh the contractor or the [1:29:29] company that had the project at the park for the regional component um Tom had [1:29:33] just met with him last week to review and discuss some some options related to [1:29:37] that um so we should hopefully be able to bring that back to the council here [1:29:41] relatively soon with some good explanations as to the cost for the [1:29:46] system ongoing maintenance and looking at transfer agreement and documentation [1:29:51] that we need to execute with the county as well so hopefully should have that [1:29:54] here for you um at our next meeting um and Gerald's in the process of revising [1:29:59] the guard rail RFP we worked with the rad advisory committee to look at he [1:30:04] went out and did an assessment of all the areas in town that have guard rail [1:30:07] some areas that need guard rail put that into a priority list we worked with the [1:30:11] roads advisory committee to look at that priority list to see if that was the [1:30:14] areas they felt we should focus on first um they they agreed um so that is being [1:30:19] revised so we can get it released here hopefully by the end of the month it's [1:30:23] kind of where we're at right now if you have any questions I'm happy to [1:30:26] answer Mr P pleas so two things um what's going on with our since you [1:30:32] brought up signage our city limit signs the one on the north end of town at [1:30:38] Henda has been gone for eight months now yes uh we were in the process of trying [1:30:44] to get those put into order I believe right when all our storm happened I mean [1:30:50] grace got tied up with everything so she's in the process of completing that [1:30:54] order now so we can order those signs and get them installed okay and then are [1:30:59] we not repairing guardrail in the city now because of the replacement [1:31:04] project we have I noticed that there's been quite a bit of damage to guardrail [1:31:09] that has not been repaired for many months yeah we need to move forward on [1:31:13] some Replacements of guard rails a couple of those are Insurance related so [1:31:18] we have to work with assessments from crashes that have happened and we [1:31:22] actually get claims from insurance to be able to go through the insurance process [1:31:26] and replace that c rail there is there is at least one stretch that we don't [1:31:31] have any identifiable claim or crash data to to go back to that we can look [1:31:37] at [1:31:41] okay when do you think the work on the avocado Crest T signal will start it's [1:31:47] still late October um they recently did some pot [1:31:51] holing out there so they looked at the locations where the polls would be going [1:31:55] to make sure there's no utility lines that would be in the area they didn't [1:31:58] find anything which is good so no changes needed to be done to Foundation [1:32:03] or pole design they are anticipated like late October to start doing some work um [1:32:09] out at those sites is kind of where we're at today with them um but that [1:32:13] might stretch into early November just depending on when they start receiving [1:32:19] equipment thank you anybody else [1:32:28] okay any individual council member information [1:32:32] items or attendance [1:32:36] reports public comments not on the agenda [1:32:41] anyone I guess we'll adjourn oh I'm sorry [1:32:56] Bruce Thomas panchoy first of all it's sort of my opinion the whole group of [1:33:02] you it's none of our business out here how you live as long as it's outside of [1:33:07] the city council who cares that's just my opinion secondly anybody that doesn't [1:33:12] know Joan she's the only one that been in [1:33:15] this department longer than I have anybody doesn't know her needs to [1:33:20] go meet her she's a classic lady she knows the Heights and knows the [1:33:27] history of the heights like hardly anybody else [1:33:31] around and she I've had the privilege of being her her chauffeur in the fire [1:33:37] equipment in several occasion she is just a kick to be around arry so and so [1:33:45] you get her mad there's nobody like her but she's about as sweet as they come [1:33:51] just for the sake of anybody that wants to know about the heights give her a [1:33:56] call she is a classic lady that's it thank you thank you it's a high note to [1:34:02] end on if you if you look on the one that Chief passed out there was an [1:34:05] article in the Heights life there's a picture there of the Jeep Joon and the [1:34:09] Jeep Mr Thomas is driving the jeep CH fer in the [1:34:13] Jeep and if I might please uh among your other accomplishment she was my Cub [1:34:18] Scout denm mother [1:34:29] do I need a motion to adjourn okay we're adjourned then thank [1:34:34] you Mr [1:34:39] Thomas well thank you for the pr