1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,040 Yeah. 2 00:00:25,439 --> 00:00:34,599 It's just a sample just to see what was on the agenda. 3 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,599 I'm just doing a sample one tonight. 4 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:45,239 Coming in. Yeah. I'm going to open the 5 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:51,869 [Music] 6 00:00:52,559 --> 00:01:02,160 flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One 7 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:06,680 nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 8 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:18,479 Does anybody have anything they need to add to the agenda? 9 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:23,520 If not, I need a motion to make a motion to accept the agenda as read. Motion by 10 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:28,799 Sher Linda, second. Second by Cynthia. All in favor? 11 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:34,000 Um, I need a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting May 14th. 12 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:38,560 I make a motion that we approve the minutes as needed as printed on May 13 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:44,860 14th. Motion by Sharon. Do I have a second? Second by Angela. All in favor? 14 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:47,920 I [Music] 15 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:52,960 chair. Citizens call. 16 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:57,119 Do I have any citizens call for business? 17 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:01,280 call for business or to where we can just speak up speak out. This is when 18 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:06,799 you do. All right. I got a few things I'd like to kind of bring up and ask 19 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:12,000 about. Uh I know Danny resigned from his spot. Kind of curious what was going on 20 00:02:09,679 --> 00:02:18,720 with his. I know Kendrick put a letter of intent. I have a couple letters. 21 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Did we ever publish that or open it up to the public or anything or We don't 22 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:30,080 need to do that. We just um if there's vacancy and you're interested, you just 23 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:38,720 send a letter of intent. Isn't Is there not a uh time frame that is supposed to 24 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:44,440 be filled or No, right. No time frame. Yeah. Fred, you might dumb. 25 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 So 26 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:58,720 it's a mayor mayoral appointment um subject to consent by the council 27 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:05,840 and the council once the appointment is offered or it's nomination I guess the 28 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:10,800 council can only reject that if they pass a resolution that finds that 29 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:15,360 someone simply does not meet the minimum imum requirements of the position. 30 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:22,000 Um, it's not unusual for one to stay open for a while. It really is. I've 31 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:26,000 been doing this a long time and it's uh it's not unusual especially given that 32 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,360 this happened what the end of the year I think. Yeah. Yeah. With uh the weather 33 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:36,799 and winter and everything else, but I noticed it's only attempted. So, but 34 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:40,159 there is no time frame involved. No. And I just had a couple letters of it in the 35 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:43,840 last few months. And as far as publishing it, I mean, it's been 36 00:03:41,519 --> 00:03:48,080 announced. Yeah. And I do think there was something posted. 37 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:55,480 It would have either in the minutes or I I mean, I'm just that he resigned. Yeah. 38 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Yeah. 39 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:04,080 So, who who appoints him? Is it the council or is it left up to the mayor? 40 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:10,400 It is one of the it is one of the powers of a mayor to 41 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:15,439 to appoint someone subject to the consent of the council. But that consent 42 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:22,479 can only be withheld if they pass a resolution that specifically finds that 43 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:27,440 in their opinion the person does not it I think the language is is not fit for 44 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:32,080 the office and that has been interpreted meaning 45 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,919 let's use city clerk as an example doesn't meet a residency requirement or 46 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:41,680 isn't bondable you know there's some basic fundamental 47 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:47,600 requirement of that position that they the council feels they don't fit or meet 48 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:53,520 um like if they weren't a citizen or didn't res 49 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:59,919 and I'm very familiar with that because that change in the law I live through um 50 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:04,800 we had a situation in Humble that was pretty ugly that basically kind of 51 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:09,759 resulted in that law change or we were part of other people that helped change 52 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:15,000 that law. So, is there there a way that we can 53 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 change 54 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:23,039 how it's uh or who makes the decision of who is 55 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:26,639 that's state law. That's state law. Absolutely. State statute. I'm just 56 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:31,120 going to throw my opinion out here and I know a lot of citizens here in Florida 57 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:35,280 feel the same way. Very important. Laart feel the same way. There's a just like 58 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,520 in the White House, there's a lot of buddy system and I'm going to take you 59 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:43,919 over you because you're my friend and blah blah blah. But that's just my 60 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:49,600 opinion and others around here and they really don't care for how the city's 61 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:54,160 being run in that sense. So the position is filled only for the remainder of that 62 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:58,800 unexpired term and then they must stand for election. It's not a full term. It's 63 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:02,800 just whatever is remaining of that term and that's when you have a chance to 64 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:07,759 change that. Is that the election? Yeah. Assume the terms just came up. 65 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:12,160 It's it's the way it is. I mean that's that's what the law says. What I'm all 66 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:18,319 I'm saying is my opinion is like some of the people in here is I'm going to use 67 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:23,919 Angela. We know it's a buddy system or we we believe it's a buddy system of how 68 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:30,319 you got in versus others that we feel are more confident or 69 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:34,319 Yes. I mean that's my opinion and others of 70 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:40,240 the city. So I'm just throwing that out on the ballot like everybody else does. 71 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:44,160 All right. I'm going to move on unless somebody else got something to say on 72 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:49,080 that. Nope. citizens that I spoke to in the town 73 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:56,960 feel that we need more training with the fire department 74 00:06:55,280 --> 00:07:01,199 with the things that have been going on lately. 75 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:07,919 Uh people that were over at the other the fire recently, they said it was a 76 00:07:03,919 --> 00:07:13,680 mess. I spoken to some other volunteers from other fire departments. 77 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:20,160 They said that they asked multiple times. Do you want to call in 78 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:25,440 backup? We'll bring out tankers. Makes told them no. We're waiting for the tank 79 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:29,759 for the tower to fill. We are trying to take care of the people 80 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:35,599 here. I understand we want to try to do it ourselves, but sometimes you got to 81 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:39,520 do what you got to do. So, I don't I don't know what we're 82 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,759 doing for training anymore. I used to be on it. I know what we used to do. Does 83 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:49,199 everybody have to be certified that's on the fire department on the volatic? No, 84 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:54,400 nobody has to be certified. You got to be okay by the chief. And does the chief 85 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:59,840 got to be certified? Does the chief need to be certified? He He Yes, he is. He 86 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:05,919 doesn't have to be. It's a volunteer system. To my understanding with other 87 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:12,879 volunteer fire departments, we have been invited. Not we. The fire department has 88 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:18,400 been invited multiple times for free training and no one from the heart 89 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,800 showed up. To me, that's unjustifiable. Even if 90 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:28,479 just one person went, they could bring it back and share that with the rest of 91 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:34,560 the department. So I guess my next question is are what 92 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:38,560 are we doing to for our training just blowing out 93 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:42,599 whistles or what are we doing for training? Not doing that 94 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:50,320 and nobody can do it because they got this. 95 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:56,560 Another problem is half of our fire hydrants are buried in the ground. And 96 00:08:53,440 --> 00:09:02,160 if there's a fire, they have to go and uny them like they did with Mr. Adair's 97 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:08,000 fire. They had to dig that fire hydrant out in order to access it. That 98 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:11,519 shouldn't be right. Somebody needs to be doing maintenance, doing maintenance on 99 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,680 them. I don't think they dig that one out. No. 100 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:21,040 No, they didn't dig that out. No. But no way. 101 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Okay. Then where did all the dirt come from that was piled up around the fire 102 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:29,120 hydrant? That was when they dug the hole for the telephone pole. 103 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Okay. Well, that's my my misunderstanding then. I was told they 104 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:40,000 had to say we don't have any in ground. Uh there's several that look really 105 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:45,120 questionable whether you can access them or not. And couple of them are here on 106 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:50,000 Main Street. One of them's down by Vicky's house. 107 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:55,120 You just might have them drive around and look at them. Well, you have to go 108 00:09:52,320 --> 00:10:00,480 through and flush them. So, that's I haven't seen the fire hydrant flushed in 109 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:08,680 the 10 years I've been. They were just flushed in April. Yep. So, 110 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,680 every one of them? Yep. 111 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:19,600 Cuz we have to flush them. The one on my corner never flush. They 112 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:23,360 flush my backside that question. Mm. Um, cuz you weren't home. I think when the 113 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:30,320 fire department comes up, I've watched them fight four fires in this town. 114 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:35,079 They drive up on scene. They don't do a perimeter check. They don't look. 115 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:42,640 The fire down there's house. Fire was shooting out of the back of the house. 116 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:48,000 They didn't even know it until somebody came up to them and said, "The fire's in 117 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:52,320 the back of the house and they're sitting there with a water hose spraying 118 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:57,440 water on the front of the house and 119 00:10:54,560 --> 00:11:00,720 it's doing absolutely no good." And then they pow-wowed in the driveway for 10 120 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,440 minutes and then went running in the back. Now, what kind of good does that 121 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:11,200 do? I wasn't there, so I can't. And then and 122 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:16,640 then they drain our water tower. No, they didn't drain it. We did not lose 123 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:21,120 pressure on our tower at all. Cuz if we had them, you'd had a boil order. You 124 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:28,320 cannot lose pressure on the tower. How many hours did we go on this fire? Oh 125 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:33,120 god. We didn't run out of water. No. And I even called Larry Tony, who is our 126 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:38,560 supplier, and we had no pressure drop whatsoever in our tower. 127 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:44,079 How many hours do we go on this fire? I have no clue. 128 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:50,000 Too long. I know. But it was it was too long from 129 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:54,480 the time till about 6:00 the next morning and then they got called out 130 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:58,079 three other times from Yeah. Well, the house was full of clothes. That was one 131 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,440 problem. So, it's just like a hay bell smoking. 132 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,600 So, yes, water was put everywhere. There's a lake around there. So, they 133 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:11,279 wouldn't lack water. And it was full of stuff, you know, 134 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:17,440 not put anybody down, but it was full of stuff. Took lots of water and ours is 135 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,800 smolders and smolders. Didn't they have two uh layers of 136 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:26,519 shingle on there and then metal on top of it? Hard to get the water through the 137 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,519 metal. Yeah. 138 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:34,480 How you put through a tin roof? I wasn't there, so I 139 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:39,760 can't tell. I seen a video of it. I wasn't there either. If we had had any 140 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:44,560 wind any win at all. Yeah. You lost when we' have lost the whole South. 141 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:48,800 Harrison. No, you would have. Oh, yeah. We would have had it here. You wasn't 142 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:53,519 there. You don't know the situation. How long do we wait before we call in mutual 143 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:58,079 aid? How long do we let a house burn before we call in mutual aid? 144 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:01,120 We called in when we needed, but we didn't need it. We was getting the water 145 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,560 was needed. It was just full of stuff. Like I said, we had a bunch of 146 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:09,680 bystanders which next time we'll be escorted off. They're in the way and 147 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,959 we'll run our mouth. They don't know the facts and I don't have to disclose that 148 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:17,680 with you. That's between me and the land owner. So, I really can't be telling you 149 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:21,760 much. Well, I'm I talked to some of the other 150 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,120 volunteers. Well, that's them. This is us. We got our procedure. It sounds like 151 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,240 they've had a whole lot more training than what this town has. So, they 152 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,839 probably know a little bit more than what we do cuz we don't do our damn 153 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,279 training. Okay, we're done. We're done. This is old fight when you're done. This 154 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:40,480 is not a personal. This is not a personal The whole town is 155 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:44,560 trying. But it's not the point of this particular item on the agenda. You've 156 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:49,680 made your point. This is not a time to be discussing or arguing about it. When 157 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:54,720 is the time? Well, this is the time you guys give us this. If you want to do it, 158 00:13:52,160 --> 00:14:01,760 then you need to you need to ask for a point on the agenda where there is an an 159 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:06,320 actual issue for the council to decide. We're looking out for the city. You 160 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:11,920 you've made your point. I'm assuming it's been received that you would like 161 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,360 to have more training for the fire department looked into. That's been 162 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:22,480 That's what I got. That's been brought up for years now. What has it gotten 163 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:28,959 done? We got two burnt houses down. Multiple people knowing that we are not 164 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:32,320 capable of taking care of things and you're telling me that we've come up 165 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:38,519 here as citizens and speak to the council which is supposed to be working 166 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,519 for the citiz 167 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:47,519 what what we want to know what we're going to do. you I think I mean you guys 168 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:52,000 have received his comments. I assume you'll look into it. Yes. I 169 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,720 think you're wrong about training. I've been Humbled City attorney for almost 40 170 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:00,399 years and I would say it's a really good department, but I don't think they do a 171 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,399 lot of training like like you're talking about. In fact, I almost know that. 172 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:09,279 Well, I've been on the fire department. I know what we did on training. Then 173 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,120 I've talked to people that were on fire. I'm not going to argue about that. 174 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:16,399 council was going to argue about Sean Reynolds come over here and look at our 175 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:24,560 fire department. See what he thinks about it. I that is Mark's decision. He 176 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:28,959 is our fire and you're our mayor. Craig, most council meetings, the public 177 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:34,160 discussion, citizens discussion, they usually get five minutes at a time. And 178 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:40,320 she's being nice enough to allow you. He can have my five minutes. 179 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:44,560 is all these citizens are trying to say something to you guys and you're pretty 180 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:50,000 much saying sit down and shut up. No, if you have an issue, put it in writing. 181 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Submit it. No, submit it in writing because that's how you get stuff 182 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,720 discussed. This is just going around like this and making arguments and never 183 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:59,600 arguing about training. We're not arguing about nothing. Yes, you are. 184 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,399 You're arguing with Mark. You're arguing with me about how much I'm talking to 185 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:09,279 you. I know. So if you put your concerns on in writing, this is how you handle 186 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:14,880 something like this. Write down these are our concerns. One, training. Two, 187 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:20,320 are the hydrants being flushed? Yes, they are. Three, did we run out of water 188 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:25,519 and lose pressure? No. But if you if you consolidate it and and summarize it, 189 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:30,800 then you can address things in an orderly fashion where things are 190 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:34,959 addressed and can be answered. But to have a free-for-all discussion that 191 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:39,279 flows back and forth and becomes circular with no end. 192 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:43,120 Like I said, to what point does this discussion need to continue? You've made 193 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:47,680 your point. I assume the council will follow up. Hopefully next month you'll 194 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:53,360 have a report back. Good. And that's the way the procession work, but it ends. It 195 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:58,160 doesn't need to take 15 minutes to have this discussion going round and round. 196 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:05,039 Well, it's it's a major concern with the city with as citizens. Point made. Okay. 197 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:09,439 But this is not how you handle stuff in a in a council meeting is what I'm 198 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:16,000 saying. You're not here every time. I'm here almost every time. No, 199 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:21,919 I've never seen you have that. I have been here almost every time. I have been 200 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,439 here almost every time. Can I ask? And it's not even my job 201 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:30,640 description to be here every time. Oh, you got a job description? I do, as does 202 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:36,000 everybody in the in the city. You're an attorney? Yeah. Good. 203 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:40,000 Can I ask one more thing? One more. I know at when I was on the fire 204 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:45,039 department, I got kicked off at one point there. 205 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,559 There was a firefighter that got sent to the hospital. That's supposed to be 206 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:49,559 county. 207 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:58,880 Are we back on the city with them? I don't know what you're talking about, 208 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Mark Wagner Jr. back when you guys kicked me off of it. We didn't kick you 209 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:11,120 off. That's not the council's job. That is Mark Bark's department. 210 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:18,480 Okay. Was the Let's forget all that. Is he city and county? Cuz last I knew he 211 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:22,799 was just county. Uh county. Just county. Mutual aid was with the 212 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:28,160 ladder truck. So that's rule rig. 213 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:32,360 Okay. Now we're done. Any other citizens call for business? Jerry, 214 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:44,559 I just want to know what I can do to take care of that piece of property. 215 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:50,559 Can I stay in a camper as sleeping quarters only 216 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:58,160 and park it on my property? For how long? To clean up that mess. 217 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,480 Cuz normally we give a time limit. Yes. So understood. I mean when when they 218 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:08,120 have granted the variance, they give a time limit on it. So how long do you 219 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,120 need? 220 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Well, no. What? What's really reasonable? I got people that will help 221 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:18,120 me. It'll probably be at least a couple months, won't it, Jerry? 222 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:27,280 I'm sure if I do it myself. Yeah. If I was a if my insurance comes through and 223 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:31,440 I can hire, say Ray Maloney to do it, he can do it in a day. Well, I know when 224 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:36,320 our house burnt, our big twotory house burnt, I had three months to get it tore 225 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:40,640 down. 90 days. Okay. Should we go from there? It was a 226 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:46,160 big twotory house. Come back and get an extension. Come back if needed. Yes. 227 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:51,200 Yeah. And Fred will write up some for us and we'll have you sign it. Okay. But 228 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:58,080 I'll need a motion by the council for this. I'll make a 229 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:03,120 motion that we give Jerry 90 days to live on the property and then to come 230 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:09,360 back if he not completed by then. Yeah, that's a hardship. Okay. Water. I have a 231 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:13,919 motion. How How are utilities going to be hooked up and are you on? All it's 232 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,480 going to have is electricity in it. Okay. The house across the street also 233 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:24,559 belongs to me, my mother and father-in-law, but he passed away. But 234 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:29,919 it's a small house and it it's just easier if I sleep somewhere else. Yeah, 235 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:34,960 I could rent a house downtown somewhere, but the travel time I could use to do 236 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,720 the cleanup if I'm right next door. So basically you just need like an 237 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:44,320 electrical plug in and your gray water and black water you'll just move it out. 238 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:49,919 I go in and shower and we eat there with her. Oh, so you won't even have that. 239 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,280 So this is a lot simpler than the other 240 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:58,559 ones that we're hooking in. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No problem. Okay. So I have a 241 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:03,280 motion by Ron. Do I have a second? Second by Cherylyn. Any more discussion? 242 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:08,080 All in favor? Okay. and Fredo gets them wrote up and 243 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Michelle will get a hold of you and we'll get you in here and signed and but 244 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:17,840 you can go ahead and bring in. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Mhm. Any other citizens 245 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:22,320 call? Yes. I have issue with the dogs running in the park. Okay. And the same 246 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,520 old people, same old dogs and the city don't want to do anything 247 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:30,000 about it. And I called Penny. I've sent pictures. 248 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:34,880 I've called Michelle and you've called me and you and I tried to get a hold of 249 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Anua but she won't answer and I've talked to Sheridan over the years. Same 250 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:44,240 old people, same old dogs. Those pictures in that video has been 251 00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:47,360 sent to animal control, but it don't do any good. You know that. Well, I don't 252 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,440 know yet. I mean, you can imagine I'm like 253 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:56,400 invisible. And they run over there and torment my dogs, which has never been 254 00:21:53,360 --> 00:22:00,720 loose, never even on leash, always in a pin or in the backyard. And they come 255 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:05,280 over and then my dogs are buddy head to toe because they're agitating my dogs. 256 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:08,480 Okay? And they do it on the weekends when they know they can get by with it. 257 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:14,159 And I holler and scream and they still don't want to know. And Gary Bradley, 258 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:18,559 everybody knows Gary Bradley. Okay. I've had Wagner's dogs down at my 259 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,400 house repeatedly over the years, which they've never even had a dog ticket. And 260 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,880 I don't know how many times I've picked up diesel. 261 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:32,320 But why do certain people get tickets and certain people don't? Um, and 262 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:37,320 there's other type of opinion about and she nobody can 263 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,320 answer me. 264 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:47,280 I mean, no, but I will start shooting them or start 265 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:50,240 poisoning them. I'm not I'm not kidding. When I have to pick up somebody else's 266 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:57,600 dog in my yard, it's already happen. And I pick up my dog 267 00:22:53,919 --> 00:23:04,640 here. Thank you. Thank you. Any other citizens call? I got problem. Yes, 268 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:10,880 Carrie. Um, with this new firework law where fireworks can be sold year round, 269 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:16,320 there is some people that is shooting fireworks off at night in my end of the 270 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:22,880 neighborhood. Is that legal to be doing in within city 271 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:29,440 limits? No. Fire department. 272 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:33,360 I don't I I don't think that the county has any restriction on shooting 273 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:37,919 fireworks any time of the year. I I think that's right. Right. But but the 274 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:42,600 ordinance here is Yes. It's only through those dates that we approve 275 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,960 before. Right. So we got certain people that will blow them off two weeks before 276 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,320 the court and get by with it because they do it long enough for the law not 277 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:55,360 to get out here. And even if the law came out here, they say, "Oh, no, no, 278 00:23:53,679 --> 00:24:01,679 put that up. the same people that does it 279 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,960 and again we can't do nothing about it. So it is against the law to be shooting 280 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:11,279 them off right now. It's against a city ordinance. Yes. Within the city limits. 281 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Yes. Thank you. Till what? 27th 27th to the 5th. I think that's what it was. I 282 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,600 think that's what we did. And the county won't take care of that. Yeah. Huh. 283 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,679 They'll just have them put them out. Yeah. See the county won't handle it. 284 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:28,720 They're going to have to have a city. We don't have a city call. All right. So 285 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:33,840 then it's just the way we do it. It's a free-for-all. Free. We are. You can call 286 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:36,320 the sheriff. Sheriff tell them. Yeah. No, they won't. They'll tell them to put 287 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,799 it out. They won't enforce our ordinances. 288 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:46,080 I tell you, they will tell them not to do it. That's it. But that's all they 289 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:50,960 can do. And I've been in the middle of that one before. some more. Yeah. 290 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,880 Well, a lot of times just sheriff showing up will be enough to scare them 291 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:59,200 to shut them down. Yeah. I I tried shutting down a party one night at him 292 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:03,679 house and it made it worse after sheriff lock left. They got worse. It was a 293 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:08,240 rental house. Yeah. It was our rental house and they went over and asked who 294 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:13,360 who called the sheriff. The sheriff that the new deputy told him and then they 295 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:19,919 turned up the music even louder in the city. Huh? In the city limits. 296 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Yeah. Do we have a noise? Uh, can't do anything about that. Got to 297 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:27,240 have a Yeah, we can do anything about 298 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:32,039 All right. Any other citizens call? 299 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:41,360 I have one more question. I don't mean to be keep bugging you. Um, I want to 300 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:48,159 know one thing. Who else knows Michelle's job? like 100% if something 301 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:54,559 were to happen to her and I hate to put it in that terms but I've had two 302 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:59,919 aneurysms one that burst and I had a stroke so anything can happen to anybody 303 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:06,880 at any time and I need to know who knows Michelle's 304 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:14,799 job 100% we have an assistant city clerk who Penny knows Drisco Driscoll yeah Oh, 305 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,000 she has she's been our assistant for quite a while. Yeah. You call up here 306 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,039 and she's like, "I don't know. You'll have to wait till Michelle gets back." I 307 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:27,799 can't look that up. You got to wait till Michelle gets back. I can't do that. You 308 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,799 have to wait till Michelle gets back. 309 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Every time Every time I call or I call for Tim or I come up, 310 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:43,919 what question are you asking? I mean, that's what we need to know. Um, 311 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:49,039 somebody with a little bit more training to back Michelle up to help the citizens 312 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:54,159 when we called in her can I say something? Yeah, gets to work 313 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:58,080 30 hours a month. Okay. And that's not very much time a week in the office. I'd 314 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,320 love to have her 40 hours. The city can't afford that. So Teresa is always 315 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,240 working on pins and needles, afraid of making a mistake. And I have told her 316 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:11,760 numerous times all mistakes can be fixed. But that is just who she is. 317 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:16,799 She's nervous. That's who she is. She's a very, very sweet lady. She is will 318 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:20,720 visit with anybody, but her knowledge of wanting to come out and answer questions 319 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:24,320 she is very uncomfortable with because she's afraid of saying the wrong thing. 320 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,279 How long she been doing the job? Teresa's 321 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,120 she's probably know she's probably been with us for 10 years because she was 322 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:35,760 city treasure. She was treasure. Yeah. She's just she's not in here enough. 323 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:41,120 She's in here two days a week, you know, four hours. And I mean, that's just not 324 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,360 enough. And she drives from where? Out here somewhere. And she's also a 325 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,200 Bronson. But when I go away on vacation, I mean, 326 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,600 she's got it covered and I come back to a clean desk. The other ones before her, 327 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,279 I mean, I wasted my time while going on vacation. And she's helped me a lot on 328 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,760 the computer when I come in. Yeah. She is just She's not speedy with it. I 329 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:07,279 mean, she doesn't have as much time and years that I have in it, right? And 330 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:12,080 she's she's just real doubtful and I'm trying to build her confidence up. Okay. 331 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:17,520 So, it's not that she probably doesn't know, just that she's she doesn't know 332 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:22,320 how to answer. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I have Well, I think I know one of the 333 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:29,919 questions was Tim was having problems with his meter and I asked her um if she 334 00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:37,039 knew when they were going to come down and put in the new meter. 335 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:41,360 I wouldn't know that. I would work I think even if a work order had been put 336 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:45,120 in. Yeah. I wouldn't know that until I reached out to somebody on maintenance 337 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:48,399 to ask them, hey, you know, when are you guys going to do this work order? I 338 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:51,360 wouldn't know that. I make the work order. We both make the work orders. We 339 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,840 hang it up. If they've got something else that takes priority over those work 340 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,200 orders, they've got to do that first and then they'll come. So, I I never know 341 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,559 when a work order is going to be completed or if if it got completed, you 342 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:08,960 know, I don't look through them each day. Yeah. Okay. I have work orders. The 343 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,159 other concern I have is about wagon boys riding all over town, hot riding their 344 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,880 trucks. Does anybody else have that problem? They're doing what? Hot riding 345 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:21,919 their trucks all over town. Don't tell me. Well, maybe I haven't had 346 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,760 any Michelle, you know that they've been turned in for 10 years since she's 15 347 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,600 now they're driving, right, Michelle? Yeah. There's nothing there's nothing we 348 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:35,640 can do about it cuz we don't have a cop. Exactly. And if you see 349 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640 on 350 00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:43,360 But again, I'm going to take care of that problem on my own, too. No. Just 351 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:47,679 have video. They can't prove it. Just we're going to move. Okay. I'm sure the 352 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,320 attorney's sitting here eating it all. The other thing is about water bills. 353 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,960 How much more you going to keep raising their sewers and waters? I mean, we 354 00:29:53,039 --> 00:30:00,799 can't take much more than property taxes. To be totally honest with you, 355 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,960 the city I mean, we've got a $ 1.5 million sewer project. Yeah. That should 356 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:09,440 have been fixed a long time ago with we put money in towards something like 357 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,320 before he came in office. That's for the for something and then it all 358 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:17,600 disappeared. I don't have a number. No, that is for that money was set aside for 359 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:21,360 the lagoons because it is very they have no we have a separate account. No, you 360 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,600 told us you didn't know where it went either. Michelle said money gets moved 361 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:32,880 around. How many citizens do we have in in our heart? 490. 362 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:36,799 No. Yes, we do. 293. We're down something like that. Everybody's moving 363 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,799 out. Okay. The sewer. Okay. This is how this is 364 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,880 going to work. Okay. We are trying to upgrade our lip stations and we've had 365 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,720 numerous meetings, public meetings on our sewer lift stations. We tried to do 366 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:54,000 the whole entire town. I cannot remember the dollar amount. The sewer stations is 367 00:30:50,880 --> 00:31:00,559 1.5 million. Kansas Water Office gave us a grant for 750,000. 368 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:06,640 We got approved for a loan through KDHE. However, before we can touch that loan 369 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:11,840 to pay for them, KDHE is saying your sewer rates need to be at this amount or 370 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,279 you cannot have that money. Yeah. You guys keep moving around accounts like 371 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,360 this many. All we do is monthly transfers. We move 372 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,880 the sewer reserve fund over to a separate bank. And that's something this 373 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,960 mayor started. They never did that in the past and it was all the money was in 374 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,799 one working fund and they just spent it wherever they wanted to. We've got 375 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:36,000 several separate accounts that can't be touched unless it's just for sewer or 376 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,640 for electric or for water. We've got separate accounts for all that stuff. 377 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:44,240 It's going to take us forever to get that done. No. No. Hopefully not. We 378 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:50,000 will. The loan with that we have, we will start once we activate that loan, 379 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,480 we will start making payments on it. And it's a 20-year loan. I We all live here. 380 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:59,200 I don't want to pay that. I don't want to pay what we're paying now. But in 381 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:05,679 order to fix our issues, we've had an employee that put in Daniel 70 hours 382 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:09,679 last week babysitting two lift stations. We can't do that. I know it needs it 383 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,760 needs fix. Yeah. Yeah. We We can't be without it. We We've got to get the 384 00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:17,600 money somewhere. Yeah. And if the sewer lift stations don't get fixed and we got 385 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:22,720 sewer spilling all over the ground, then we got fines from the state of Kansas. 386 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:27,039 Is it the or is it the little bit of everything? 387 00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:32,799 They're They're 25 years old. But if we did the whole system, it would be over 388 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,480 $7 million. How can we get grants? We did. We're trying. She gives grants to 389 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:42,880 everybody else and donate it. Well, because a lot of those got stopped. 390 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Yeah. Did you not buy Kelly's pocket? No, that's not a lot of those grants 391 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:57,440 dollars. I'll tell you something. Last last year, we tried to get a CBDG grant. 392 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:01,120 to help with this. Y they decided they were going after walking trails and they 393 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:06,799 decided that's a government that has nothing to 394 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,880 do with us. And I sat in on numerous meetings with these people trying to get 395 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:17,679 something this year. We got some 396 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:25,440 a lot of money. It is a lot of money taxes would property tax 12 or 13%. My 397 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,440 owners at 3 or 4%. No. 398 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:35,120 Okay, I think we're done. We're going to move on. 399 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:43,519 Um, unfinished business, the speed bumps. 400 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:49,440 Um, you guys have got that information. Yeah. And also, can I share Larry called 401 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:54,399 and said, and I know I think Fred said he was probably against this, but Larry 402 00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:59,840 said um he used to work on construction before and he knows how to build the 403 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:03,600 mold or the framing for speed bumps cuz they had to make 404 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,120 speed bumps for construction work out on the highways. I said, "Yeah, but I think 405 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,079 it's got to have the yellow markers on and he said, "Well, we could probably do 406 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:15,119 that with fluorescent paint, but he would fill the structures and fill it in 407 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:19,919 with um cold patch or whatever material they use to make those speed bumps, 408 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:25,599 too." So, and I don't know anything about a cost on that. 409 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:31,359 Larry just is offering to Does that patch break down after? Yeah. 410 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:35,599 I'm just Yeah, I don't have to get the signs. Yeah. Yes, we still need signs. 411 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:41,440 I'm just throwing that out there because Larry offered I let him try before we 412 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,480 purchase these. But we're still going to have to 413 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:52,560 purchase the signs when he does it. So we can put them up at the park. Yeah. 414 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,639 Fred says it's okay. There's nothing. When I was talking to Michelle, my my 415 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,119 concern was if you didn't know what you're doing, you don't want to just 416 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:06,480 throw a bump out there and then have cars get damaged. And you I think I some 417 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:12,320 because I did a fair amount of research on it. It can't be any more than 6 in in 418 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:15,320 height at any point or something around that 419 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:25,320 versus the hump issue kind of thing. So if he's had experience and and he's been 420 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:32,480 knows what he's doing. Okay. Anyway, I told him I mention it to 421 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:35,920 you guys so we can either I can't see this. 422 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:41,440 Even if we try one, we're still going to have to have sign. Yeah. So, we can go 423 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,760 ahead and purchase the signs and then for that 424 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:50,079 sign because you you just you can't have somebody hitting one at full speed not 425 00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:53,760 knowing it's there. That's going to damage something. And we'll need signs 426 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:59,680 going both ways, too. So, there's I have six. I see six. 427 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:08,000 Yeah. Yeah. Has the city got enough money if a drunk has arrested two packs? 428 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:12,480 As long as I got signs up. Oh, we only need three. I looked at that 429 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:16,320 again. Yeah, we only need three. That's an 430 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:21,839 insurance. Yeah, it looks like they're three. 431 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:27,599 Whatever. I read that question. Can a citizen of the city put speed, 432 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,520 but do we want to wait until we talk about the law enforcement? I mean, are 433 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:36,160 we going to need the speed bumps? It's up to you. That's up to you guys. The 434 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:42,560 speed bump is is is kind of a self enforcement. Yes. I mean, it's not going 435 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:48,000 to hinder anything. I don't I want to go speed. 436 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:51,920 I know. So, do we want to do we want to set a dollar amount for Larry to try 437 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:54,800 this or just try one and see what it does? Well, we got cold patch down 438 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,400 there, don't we? Uh-huh. Yeah, we'll just see what it does. I want to see. 439 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:04,880 Okay. But we got to have the signs first. Yeah, sir. 440 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:08,640 Make a motion we have a motion by Ron. Do I have a second? I'll second it. 441 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:14,400 Second by Charlotte. Any more discussion? All in favor? Yes. 442 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:18,280 And then we get the signs. Well, then we can have try. 443 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:27,440 All right. Um, thank you. Next order of business. I do have 444 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:36,000 another letter of intent for the council is from Cindy Mley. 445 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:42,400 She is back here. There she is. Um, I know they are new to the town. They 446 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:49,040 came from Moran. Iola. Sorry about that. Um, 447 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,839 so that is our second letter of intent. So now that I have a couple, I'll 448 00:37:50,640 --> 00:38:00,880 probably be making the decision probably by the next meeting. 449 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:06,880 Yes. You said last meeting that you would have a decision made today. I 450 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:12,960 know. And but I got this new letter, so I'm going to send it back in to send let 451 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,280 the council get to know her any questions they might have. Well, you 452 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,599 tell me we can't interview them. Well, you can talk to them. Well, that's the 453 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:27,520 same as interviewing a formal like to come in at a council 454 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:34,079 meeting and be but you you're free to call somebody up 455 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:38,640 and talk to whatever ask them questions. I mean, you can talk to them all you 456 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:44,240 want. Okay. So, I know they're new to town, so and I'm sure she's willing to 457 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:50,480 talk to anybody that wants to talk to her. Okay. 458 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,560 inner letter of intent. Yes. What do you have in it? Are we going to see it? 459 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Well, I just have one. I didn't make copies. It just says I would like to put 460 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:06,040 in for the open seat for the city council 461 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,040 and our phone number. Okay. Okay. 462 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:15,599 All right. Um CDBG engineering requirement. 463 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:20,480 That's you. Well, 464 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:28,079 I met a couple weeks ago with Nate, Carolyn, and Michelle to talk about um 465 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:33,839 CDBG grants that would basically pull up the tile floors. There are some girl 466 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:39,599 that are loose, kind of a safety hazard, and replace that with like CET flooring. 467 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:44,720 We also talked about adding in um automatic door openers for the cap 468 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:49,440 accessibility for the entrance and the entrance to the gymnasium. 469 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,880 Um and we we kind of talked about some of the requirements because CDBG has a 470 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:58,000 lot of different kinds of requirements to it. Um you guys went through that 471 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:02,960 process several years ago. Um that was before my time. Oh, and I guess I should 472 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:07,680 introduce myself by the way. Sorry. I'm Vicki with Thrive County. Um, I'm a 473 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:11,760 grant writer and I also brought Jessica Thompson who's our deputy director 474 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:18,480 because she answered any questions I don't know. So, so sorry about that. Um, 475 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:24,800 anyway, we kind of talked about it and uh since we met, a couple things came up 476 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:30,000 that that uh they thought that I should probably talk to you guys as a group 477 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:34,800 about. Um, the main thing there's a couple things that need to happen before 478 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:39,760 we can submit an application. One is you need to fill out a preliminary 479 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:43,920 application online. And I think I I said um you know, it's pretty simple. It asks 480 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,480 a few questions about what are you doing, why are you doing it, you know, 481 00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:51,680 pretty simple answers, but if you need help with that, we're more than help 482 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,560 happy to kind of walk you through that process and and and kind of answer some 483 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:02,640 of those questions for you. Um the other thing that you will need is a public 484 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:06,000 hearing. Um, and we were going to do that tonight, but then we found out 485 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:11,520 something else that kind of delayed it. So, uh, that's again a pretty simple 486 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:15,119 process. It's just a matter of, um, you know, just just kind of letting the city 487 00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:19,440 know, the residents know what you're doing and why, and they can discuss it, 488 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:24,000 um, at that time. Does it require publication though? Yes. Okay. Yes. 489 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:29,760 Yeah. Um, so the big thing, the reason why I'm 490 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:36,319 kind of here is um, you guys had quotes for this work and um, and I even 491 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:41,040 calculated it uh, total. Oh, there's also a 10% match from the city and you 492 00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:44,079 also will need to kind of hire a grant administrator. Thrive doesn't do that, 493 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,400 but again, we can help you with that process to do that. And they'll charge 494 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:54,319 generally charge a fee of about 10% to 10 to 12 and a half%. And um, that'll 495 00:41:52,240 --> 00:42:00,319 have to be bid. So hopefully it'll be 10% because they'll be competitive, 496 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:06,079 right? So um but the estimates that you had for that came up to be about 497 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:10,640 $65,000. So it's not going to be a huge project 498 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:16,560 hopefully. And this is for a smaller project. That's what this this CDEG is 499 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:22,400 designed for. The problem is that um unfortunately we can't use the bids that 500 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:27,200 you got. So, they require a preliminary engineering or architectural report um 501 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,520 by a licensed professional engineer or architect before the application be 502 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:35,119 submitted. And that's how you'll get kind of the cost estimate as they'll 503 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:40,640 look at it all and kind of tell you here's kind of what we think it'll cost. 504 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:44,800 And then if you're move forward with the process, if you get the award, then put 505 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:51,839 it out for bid. The problem is if you use the bids you got as that that 506 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:57,680 estimate, those people those companies can't do the work. There's a a 507 00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:03,520 restriction that they have on that. Um and 508 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:08,640 and then that cost I did message um the guy with the department of commerce and 509 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:14,560 that cost can be included as your matching funds or part of the grant 510 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:19,680 application in the end. Um, another thing that you will need to pay for is 511 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:23,920 an environmental review, but that can be done after the grant award. Um, you just 512 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:29,200 have to fill out a form that says, "Hey, you will do this if awarded the funds." 513 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:33,119 So, and that, you know, that is something the city does have to pay for 514 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:39,359 with local funds, but the other one can be part of the grant. Um so I think 515 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,520 those are pretty much that pretty much catches us up in uh information as to 516 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:51,200 where we are. So pretty much um to move forward we'll need the uh preliminary 517 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:55,920 engineering and architectural report that will give us a cost estimate that 518 00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:01,280 we can use for the public hearing. And hopefully if we can get that all done um 519 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:08,079 the sooner the better. So hopefully we could have maybe the public hearing in 520 00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:13,680 July. And is that in that engineering or architecture? It's either or. It's just 521 00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:20,079 basically a cost estimate. Yeah, they're basically it says that they will um 522 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,480 uh analyze the need, determine the most appropriate solution alternatives and 523 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:29,839 provide. There's no engineering study or anything. Okay. Okay. So maybe an 524 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:35,760 estimator. Yeah. Yeah. It shouldn't be too big of a deal hopefully. But So, um, 525 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:42,560 do you guys have anybody anybody you use? I mean, I'm assuming BG Consultants 526 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:50,680 can do that work. Yeah, BG Consultants or or um some other architecture firm 527 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:50,680 can can do that. 528 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:58,640 I I I mean when I talked to Michelle about this BG who came to mind, but I'm 529 00:44:55,599 --> 00:45:03,280 sitting here thinking sometimes Rick Zingray who's an architect in Fort 530 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:10,319 Scott who does a lot of city work around here. Okay. What's that name again? Z I 531 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:15,839 N G R E. I think Rick Zingray. I I think he's still working. He's not 532 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:20,319 battling. Uh I mean we're all getting old 533 00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:24,560 been a while since I've seen but anyway he he's pretty reasonable and if all 534 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,720 you're needing is an estimator he he might be more reasonable than BG at 535 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:34,079 their rates but it's worth a phone call you need he's in the book in in Yates in 536 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:39,760 Fort Scott. Okay. He's done a lot of work for the Iola housing authority when 537 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:44,720 they were redoing a lot of stuff. He's done work for Humble. He's done work 538 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:49,599 for just he's done a lot of work over here 539 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,720 and he kind of caters to smaller communities like this. So 540 00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:05,359 and he's an AIA certified architect. So he would fit the bill. Okay. Got it. 541 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:09,359 Is there a timeline on this? There's the deadline is November, but I believe it's 542 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:16,560 like sort of it's first come first serve. So once the funds are out there 543 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:24,640 Yeah. So we were trying to get in on the head end of it 544 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:31,520 and say we would um get this does that disqualify us from future CBD jeep to 545 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:38,319 whatever it is CDBG grants for a period of time. Uh so you can't have more than 546 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:44,640 one going on at a time. So, if it takes you a year to do this, then you can 547 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:49,440 apply for another one next year. But if it takes you two years to do it, then 548 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:53,160 you can't apply for one until you're done with the project. 549 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480 Anything 550 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:14,400 else? No. Anybody else have any more questions on it? 551 00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:19,200 Give them a call. All right. We will get into it. Okay. All I can do you ready 552 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:24,000 for the next step? Okay. Sure. Will. Is that a 10day notice on the publication 553 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:30,079 do you think? I can't remember. I think so. Here. 554 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:36,800 All right. Um the sewer charge days before the hearing. Okay. Sorry. Sewer 555 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:41,560 charge variance. Um we have sorry GIS I skip 556 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,200 GIS system code. 557 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:59,040 Is this the one that they said if we want to go with it, we can get the they 558 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:04,000 can help us with the grant to get it? But then they also say they wanted us to 559 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:09,760 recruit people or I don't have the email with me. Um it 560 00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:14,319 would be more successful if several communities went together. You're right. 561 00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:20,160 Yes. Well, the only thing I can see that they're going to do is it's simple. Take 562 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:24,400 your cell phone over there, take a picture of that map, send it to your 563 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:30,240 email, pull it up on your computer, and there it is. Why spend $13,000 for 564 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:36,400 something you can do right now in a minute, less than a minute? Those guys 565 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:39,880 can pull these up on their phones. Save us $13,000. 566 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:50,160 I mean, that's common sense to me. That's my opinion. Well, I'm not for 567 00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:56,160 doing it anyway. We can't I mean that $13,000 we could spend somewhere else. 568 00:48:54,240 --> 00:49:00,160 I mean, Penny's put a lot together. She knows where a lot of these are. She's 569 00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:05,200 designed her own map. Yeah. The map that we had wasn't up to date. The lines 570 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,720 aren't where they say they are. It would be more convenient, but I think we're 571 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,240 beyond that point right now. We're not big enough to do it. We're not big 572 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:16,800 enough. Financially, I don't think we could afford to do it. It's a wonderful 573 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,960 program, but it's not I just don't think it stable. We can always go back to it 574 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:26,200 later. Like we can always go back. We don't have to do it right now. We can go 575 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,200 two years from now. 576 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:36,800 I think we ought to just put this on hold. Okay. 577 00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:42,240 That's what we'll do. Is that what everybody else wants to do? That's what 578 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:48,880 it'll be. Okay. Right. Now we're moving on to the sewer 579 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:54,839 versions. Um can I copy? 580 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,839 Okay. Um 581 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:05,800 I wrote a letter. Yeah. She's asking for variance for a property that um 582 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:18,480 she just wants water on, not sewer. and she wants to not pay the sewer 583 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:22,720 charges for the water because it doesn't have any dwellings on 584 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,040 it or anything and she's going to use it for a garden. 585 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:36,240 Is there a meter there now? Water there now. There is meter and water. 586 00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:40,160 She's one that turned on symbol water test for water. 587 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,599 Well, the only thing with this is if we do it for one, we got to do it for 588 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:48,839 everybody. Yeah. And how many other properties in town have water? 589 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:57,599 Well, with four shut them off with the I don't know anything about this. Yeah. 590 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:03,200 But I'm saying we kind of went through this with TLC as I recall too. Yes, we 591 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:09,520 did. But this is a a vacant lot with no structure on it that has no sewer 592 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:14,000 attachment or anything. It's it's just a hydrant versus a house that has an 593 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,920 outside hydrant that is for a garden. Correct. Okay. Yeah. I think there's a 594 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:23,760 distinction between that situation and this one. Three other people though that 595 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:29,119 just had garden spots with a spet and it on a lot with the house. Nate. Okay. And 596 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,319 if a house would ever go in there then obviously There's a meter on there. 597 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,280 They'll still have to pay a meter charge and they still have to pay for water, 598 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,200 but they won't have a sewer charge because it's not going down the sewer. 599 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,520 Yeah. There's no sewer service. So, yeah. Okay. 600 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:55,119 You could almost create a separate water charge point in your ordinance for 601 00:51:52,640 --> 00:52:03,480 something like that and define exactly what what would qualify. 602 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:03,480 vacant lot, no other structures. 603 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:11,559 So, do I need a motion on this? 604 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:22,559 I think we should um notify the people who have the same situation and offer 605 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:27,040 them the same conditions because that was the reason they they turned it off 606 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:31,200 and I don't think that would be fair. Well, the ones that turned it off, they 607 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,440 didn't want to pay the interchange. No, they didn't want to pay because they 608 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,520 but they didn't want to either. They could keep it. We told them they No, we 609 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,880 told them mine's right there behind me, but she didn't want to pay for the 610 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:46,960 meter. No, they didn't want to pay the sewer charge. Yeah, they didn't pay that 611 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,760 either. They came in and asked and and you guys wouldn't bend on that. You 612 00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:54,559 said, "No, if you got water, you got to pay sewer." 613 00:52:52,079 --> 00:53:02,200 So, they shut them off. Cuz I fill in the pool. Then I'd say let's not do it. 614 00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:02,200 Just leave it the way it is, I guess. 615 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:11,040 So then you're saying that I got a water meter across my street, my my house. I 616 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,720 if I turn that on, I have to pay sewer charge for water that's not even going 617 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:20,559 down the sewer. That's what they evidently told the other people. I mean, 618 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:28,599 that's stupid. I know. I agree. I mean, why would I want to pay $40 some 619 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,599 dollars just to my water my garden 620 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:36,480 out of my meter? To me, if the lot's vacant and the meter's already on there 621 00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:40,559 and it's val or go back and put an ordinance in there 622 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,920 and make an ordinance and if you have a vacant lot, this is what we charge you. 623 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,920 And if you don't have vacant lot, this is what we charge you. We can go with 624 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:53,520 that route, too. We can do an ordinance for the vacant launch with the meters on 625 00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:58,640 it just for the garden or we can do none or we can do it the way we're doing it 626 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:02,079 now. There's another option. You got options to these ideas. Well, that's why 627 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,200 most of them are shut off, right? Cuz they don't want to pay the sewer. But if 628 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:09,839 you come up with say like an ordinance like Fred suggested like or we could do 629 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:15,240 say, "Hey, this is what we're charging you for the baking with the on 630 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,880 So keep in mind the more restrictions we have. 631 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:28,160 This is a we're we're coming up with the solution. Well, see a lot of them the 632 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:32,720 problem was the mine was on their house too and they didn't want to put in a 633 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:36,960 separate meter. They all had they all had separate 634 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,079 meters. They all had with a separate meter and when they didn't do this they 635 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:45,520 would have to pay for two meter charge meter. But they had to 636 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:51,119 regardless of whether they wanted to or not. To follow up with what Angela was 637 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:58,160 saying is if you created a a new category of water consumer 638 00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:04,559 that is only available for a vacant pot with a outside hy with a hydrant and a 639 00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:08,240 separate meter where they would pay the applicable water rate and the meter 640 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:16,599 charge. It's a new user. It's a new consumer and 641 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:16,599 it's more volume that you're selling, 642 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:24,160 right? And and you wouldn't have to have people come all the time for asking for 643 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,280 and then if you want to see the property, then you know, you're more 644 00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:32,559 than welcome to be like, "Okay, that one has, you know, go by." And then you 645 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:37,280 probably need to address too that it was a vacant lot, but they decide they want 646 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:40,160 water on it. Who's going to pay for putting that in? 647 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,720 You're going to have to have to outline all 648 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,839 that. They're going to have to have a meter and we'll and you need to tell 649 00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:48,720 them how many foot they can have the meter from the street. Otherwise, you're 650 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:52,640 going to have people coming in here wanting 651 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:56,200 two acres. Is isn't that basically a new tap? Yeah. 652 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,079 I know. But we have to that that's the option. So need to know they need to 653 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,160 know what the full options are before well we have to get the ordinance like 654 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:13,040 if we want to go with the or like get in the ordinance we have to build the 655 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:17,280 ordinance. Yeah. So you want to see what Frank can come up with as far as you can 656 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:21,839 go ahead and approve if you want to and then I'll come up with something that 657 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:25,599 cuz she's already got one there. Well, a lot of them have them there. 658 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,319 Yeah, like Cynthia said the other ones have there too. I think we should reach 659 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:37,400 out to them and let them know that we are making this consideration and give 660 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,400 them that that option. 661 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,799 But they have the meter there. 662 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:50,319 Yeah, but I'm sure she's on the water garden. 663 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:54,960 Well, not right now, but what is I if if you approve it, I would love to turn it 664 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:59,440 on and pay that. And honestly, we know the water's probably going to stop 665 00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:06,640 raining. So, I would I would like to use this as soon as possible if if approved. 666 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:11,079 And that would be a residential rate, right? Yes. Yes. 667 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:21,680 So, right now with this being in front of us, we need to Do you want to make a 668 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:25,160 motion to grant this? Do you want to wait? Anyone? 669 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,799 She'd like to be able to use it now. Well, then you'll make motion. 670 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:43,119 You can make a motion. You need to get the Yeah, we'll get the rest of it. Fred 671 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:47,119 needs to draw something up on it. Yeah. And our computer system will handle it 672 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:52,480 on fill in the water. Sure, Michelle. Yeah. Okay. So, we've got to make a 673 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:58,960 motion that we could this here pending what the forest deal comes up with. 674 00:57:55,599 --> 00:58:02,319 Well, what you approve it tell me to come back with something that kind of 675 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,160 takes care of it. Takes care of everything. It she says it's going to 676 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:10,559 turn hot and dry here real fast. Yeah, it will. It will. So, do I have a motion 677 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:13,839 to approve this? I'll make a motion we approve it. Okay. I have a motion by 678 00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:18,640 Sherman. Do have a second. Second. Second by Ron. Any more discussion? All 679 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:25,839 in favor? Okay. Now, now Fred, 680 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:30,200 we'll have you go back up. Okay. 681 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:44,640 Okay. Um, next we need to 682 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:50,480 we the roof is done or getting done um back in 683 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:56,960 May of 24 when we decided to go with this bid. Um you guys had decided of 684 00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:01,040 where the funds were coming out of. Um 685 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:08,559 this is being brought back before you because we need to resend this vote. 686 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:16,880 And instead of just taking 10,000 out of fitness, we can take 15. 687 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:22,799 And then the other it's like it's close to 35,000. 688 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:29,359 We can take five out of water, sewer, electric, and general. So that would 689 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:35,920 cover the whole expense. But when you voted, you voted to take the 25 out of 690 00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:40,079 the electric fund and and all of our funds are looking pretty good. So I just 691 00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:48,040 seem to spread the spread it around. 692 00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:48,040 So, I need a motion to resend this vote. 693 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:59,680 Make a motion resend this vote we made back 694 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:05,280 in 20 24. Okay. I have a motion by Ron. Do I have a second? I'll second. Second 695 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:10,880 by chairman. Any more discussion? All in favor? 696 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:18,880 All right. Now I need a motion to take the funds out of 15,000 out of fitness, 697 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:23,799 5,000 out of each of water, sewer, electric, and general. Right. 698 01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:35,839 I can make a motion. We take um 5,000 out of explorer and serve in general. 699 01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:40,319 Thank you. And then 15 out of fitness. 15 out of fitness. Fitness. Fitness. 700 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,680 Okay. Okay. I have a motion by my wrong. Do I 701 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:47,799 have a second? I'll second. Second by shar. Any more discussion? 702 01:00:52,640 --> 01:01:00,240 Law enforcement. Ron, you're up. Yeah. We need a cop. We need him bad because 703 01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:03,440 there was a couple Yes. Just the other day, wife and I was sitting out on the 704 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:08,880 front porch and this car was coming down by the 705 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:12,799 church, little gray car. Next thing you know, this big old truck 706 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:17,760 come flying around and passing right on Main Street. 707 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:21,680 And in the evening and in the early morning, I guarantee you biggest share 708 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:26,079 of them people that go through town are flying between 50 and 60 miles an hour 709 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:30,880 for the school. I don't know if everyone's good or not. Just anybody. 710 01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:37,520 Yeah. I mean, they fly up and down Harrison. Yeah. It's all over. We need 711 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:42,880 to do something. All right, Fred. So, I was going to 712 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:47,599 bring this up under my thing. No, no, no. I'm glad you did because it 713 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:52,640 it uh does yours much better. So, I've talked 714 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,720 to a couple of you people. You people I've talked to a couple of you. Um, I'm 715 01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,680 not sure if I ever addressed the whole council or not, but I have had this idea 716 01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:05,440 in my head for a long time that there has to be a way to work a deal with the 717 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:10,640 county. And I had Michelle run some numbers a 718 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:16,000 while back about what you have spent on law enforcement over the last several 719 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:24,079 years and what that has brought in as far as traffic funds 720 01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:29,680 and with what those budget numbers were. I think you could probably 721 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:37,720 offer the county almost a full-time position without having any of that. 722 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,720 Um, 723 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:45,599 don't even have to furnish them a car. Yeah. Without all that other stuff 724 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:49,920 that you now and I keep hearing things like, well, they can't afford. Those are 725 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:55,359 just roadblocks to be worked around. I mean, I I've 726 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:59,920 I've spent 40 years priding myself on thinking outside the box. I have an 727 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:05,839 appointment with the sheriff next Wednesday. Okay. I've told him I have no 728 01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:10,880 authority. I'm just there to brainstorm to see if something couldn't be worked 729 01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:14,559 out. And I typed up a list of things I would like you two to come up with 730 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:18,720 before then. And I went off and left it in my printer. But it's basically what 731 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:23,119 hours would you like somebody here regularly? If it's morning and evening, 732 01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:29,520 school time, what what's what's our wish list? The 733 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:34,400 second one was uh what specific days would be a good to have him here? Fourth 734 01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:41,680 of July, uh heart days, whatever. Let's see. Um, 735 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:46,400 and then random things like I had to ask the sheriff today to have someone here 736 01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:53,200 for court this afternoon, which he graciously sent over his his under 737 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:58,000 sheriff uh on a day he was extremely thin on his on his crew because three of 738 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:02,559 them were subpoenaed into court. And so he was run in a really tight chip, but 739 01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:08,000 he still sits. But anyway, in talking with him just on the phone and setting 740 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:15,200 up this meeting, he seems receptive. new sheriff in town. Your situation's 741 01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:19,119 different. I would like to just be have your blessing, I guess, to go 742 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:26,160 see if there's something that we could work out. If the answer is no, you're no 743 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:30,880 worse off. But the problem here is finding a quality person for a part-time 744 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:37,039 job. Um, secondly, keeping them 745 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:42,160 and the uncertainty of what that budget item is 746 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:50,160 going to require. I mean, it gets out of hand as I think we've experienced 747 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:54,880 and not having the the personnel issues, not having the all the associated costs. 748 01:04:52,880 --> 01:05:00,480 And I've asked you to list go through and get a true picture of what it costs 749 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:05,440 the city to hire somebody. I don't know, but like I I think probably our 750 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:10,079 insurance goes up from a liability standpoint because law enforcement 751 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:16,079 that wouldn't be the case. Your share of FICA, your health insurance, um 752 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:24,240 retirement, retirement, the Yeah. caper, the certifications, the training, the 753 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:30,400 ammo for the firing. If we could strike a deal that says we'll pay X number of 754 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:33,520 dollars. this is what we want as we know we're going to have coverage these 755 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:37,680 times. These are the other times we would like coverage and you're going to 756 01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:43,039 be on call for when we need you, you know, if if there's a situation, right? 757 01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:46,640 The thing about having law enforcement, if you don't 758 01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:50,000 have 24/7, they're going to they're going to break 759 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:53,920 the law when no one's here. That's just that's 760 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:57,359 the way it is. And so if you don't have somebody here, you're not going to get 761 01:05:55,119 --> 01:06:04,960 somebody a ticket. But if but if there's a regularity to it and then also a 762 01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:10,319 randomness to it, at least people know there's there's a law enforcement 763 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:17,760 element in town. And with what I think we could offer, I think he could supply 764 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:21,280 that and probably help his department a little bit too because it would give him 765 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,400 more manpower to supplement other things. 766 01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:27,440 Yeah, there's going to be some give and take. We got a lot of things to work 767 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:32,559 out, but I would I don't want to go in there if I don't have your support to at 768 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,760 least explore it. What about you said like the traffic violations would go 769 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:40,799 through district court and we'd keep animal code here. That's my assumption 770 01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:45,119 because I don't think they want to have to send somebody over here for court 771 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:50,799 every day, right? And the the dollars that you told me we collected in in 772 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:55,440 traffic fines was minimal. Mhm. So the code enforcement which is Penny which is 773 01:06:53,599 --> 01:07:00,799 basically for the last several years has been what 774 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:06,400 80% of our dock we can handle that in in here. So you'd lose the you lose the 775 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:13,520 fine money that was going for the traffic but in in comparison 776 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:17,359 it's a nice trade-off I think. Well also let me why I have okay attorney's fees 777 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:22,240 for courtapp appointed we wouldn't have to do those anymore. I don't know what 778 01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:25,280 we've gone unreimbured for jail fees. I know we don't always collect those back 779 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,520 cuz when people don't pay, they don't pay. We don't have that anymore. That's 780 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:33,920 all in the county. Not only that, if the judge does issue a warrant, there's a 781 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:38,079 possibility we won't have the the individual brought out here because 782 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:41,920 they're not there to transport back and forth. I just had that phone call and I 783 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:46,319 called Fred immediately. It's like, well, you call the sheriff. We worked it 784 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,880 out. Yeah. Uh, and it worked out okay, but it was still 785 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:56,160 a bit of a beg to get somebody here for court, which was um, 786 01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:01,839 nice to have. Let's just say that. It's got to be better than not having to cop. 787 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:08,079 Yeah. And and and the truth is, you know, small towns can't afford it. You 788 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:12,079 really can't. And I I've almost, if this works, I'm tempted to pick up the phone 789 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:18,239 and call Moran and say, "You guys need to do this, too." Mhm. Um well gas is 790 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:23,199 the same way is it? Well I didn't have a constable or anything 791 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:28,400 I think I think there would be a in this short distance there would be a good 792 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:32,159 area here to patrol. The things I wanted to say too you wouldn't have to worry 793 01:08:29,679 --> 01:08:37,839 about vacation and all that. So it's a lot of these benefits of what eats 794 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:41,440 alive. But my main concern is will they and can they enforce our city 795 01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:46,719 ordinances? Well, you're paying for a ser. Yes, that there's a workaround 796 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:49,440 around that. That's that's that's one of the frustrating things I hear when 797 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:53,120 people just say, "Well, we can't do it." Well, 798 01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:57,759 let's find a way to do it instead of saying we can't. Yeah, there's a way to 799 01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:03,359 do that. I haven't quite sorted it out, but if nothing else, they they become a 800 01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:07,440 deputy. I mean, there's a way. interlocal government agreement I I 801 01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:13,679 think would probably be also work to just say they are now part of LAR uh 802 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,759 hours you could still probably have that like we had before so I think it would 803 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:22,480 be a terrific idea I think it's worth checking into so your homework before 804 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:28,480 next Wednesday at 1:00 okay is to sit down and I I apolog I 805 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:32,319 nicely typed it's so neat and it's sitting in my printer oh yeah so I'll 806 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:37,920 I'll email it to you tomorrow okay that'll work But I would like to know 807 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:43,920 just of what it is you're looking for as far as numbers of hours, dates. Um, and 808 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,719 then I think you guys need to get a handle on what you guys have spent over 809 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:50,400 the last several years. And I think you're going to be surprised. We got a 810 01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:54,640 car sitting up there. I was going to say, what are we going to do with that 811 01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:59,440 $35,000 car that Well, that's part of the poker chips on my side. That's part 812 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,480 of the poker chips on my side. We came out good on the last one, and I'm sure 813 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:07,280 we do the same this time. But you're probably still paying insurance on it, 814 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:12,880 right? Yeah, we have to. Yeah, that's my point. It's it's a drain. 815 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:20,000 And I think this might be a longer term solution if and again, new new sheriff 816 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:23,760 in town, new ideas, right? Not so many preconceived 817 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:27,920 notions. We can outline the holidays where we want coverage and all that. 818 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:32,400 Yeah. Yep. So, are you guys okay with him going forward? Yeah, 819 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:36,400 and I talked about I have no authority. I've been upfront with you. I said I 820 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:40,320 have no negotiating authority. I'm just here to explore ideas. So, well, we we 821 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:44,000 need some coverage. You got three daycarees that come down there and go to 822 01:10:41,679 --> 01:10:48,480 our park and they're not going 20 mph down that road. Yeah. And I'm worried 823 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:52,239 about some kids life. So, we need this. 824 01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:58,159 If we can work something like that out, it'd be great. Yeah. If you need me to 825 01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:04,560 help with time to put in on it, I will. Okay. So, Brad get all get together. 826 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:11,000 We'll get that done. All right. The next order removal bid for 406 South 827 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,000 McKenley. 828 01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:23,920 Only got one bid. I know. 829 01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:27,840 Um from Ray and it's $1,200. $1,200. That's pretty. 830 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:32,880 So I need a motion to accept. I'll make a motion. 831 01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:39,040 Motion by Ron. Do I have a second? I'll second it. Second by 832 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:45,239 second by chairman. And all in favor? How are we paying for this? Um it will 833 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,239 come out of 834 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:53,120 general that's under because last month we we 835 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:58,280 did two. Yeah. Yeah. We did two of them last month. Yeah. Yeah. So, it'll come 836 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,280 out of general. 837 01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:07,199 All right. Moving on. All in favor? Oh, all in favor. Sorry. 838 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:13,360 Okay. Fred, that was my 839 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:17,679 shot my on that one. Um Roy is not Oh, hi Roy. I was going to say you're not 840 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:22,719 here. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Nothing new here. Good. 841 01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:26,320 Um um you'll see Wait a minute. We got a 842 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:32,719 water hydrant. Yeah. Larry Tony stopped in the office today. Very upset. Um 843 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:36,960 their water hydrant or their fire hydrant, water hydrant, whatever you 844 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:41,760 want to call it. The blue one. Somebody attempted to turn on whatever is they 845 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:45,920 broke it. So he was in town this afternoon fixing it. They're having a 846 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:50,400 meeting tomorrow night. Public wholesale is. And he said he'll have Roy report 847 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:54,280 back to me. He's probably going to ask for some reimbursement 848 01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:02,880 on it. Okay. Who tried to do that? I don't 849 01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:06,719 know. I I don't know. Maybe Roy will find out more tomorrow night. I'll find 850 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:10,199 out over by the water 851 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:17,199 straight east. Okay. Jog over Taylor. That one right there on the corner. 852 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:20,800 Yeah. He said it was broken and Okay. Right away somebody going to hit that 853 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:28,080 thing. That's like 4 foot down the ditch. Yeah. That's weird. Okay. Okay. 854 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:33,920 Okay. All right. Penny, I have her monthly her Yeah. Her monthly report. 855 01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:38,159 Anybody wants to read it? Mark, you're up. We have the minutes. 856 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:42,880 Yeah. We'll get back on the whistles when it kind of was raining. We want to 857 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:49,280 hear from y. Okay. That's all we got going right now. 858 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:54,640 Um, thank you guys. Work orders. 859 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:59,719 Michelle, you're up. Only thing I got on the work orders, they're not always 860 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,719 putting an address on there. 861 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:09,080 Okay. Okay. I told Michelle, is it on all of them or just part of some? 862 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:21,360 Okay. Okay. I received a insurance check on um Jerry Jerry 863 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:26,800 Adair's place. He knows that we have this check. I didn't know what it was 864 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:33,120 for, but state law says all Kansas communities have a 15% lean ordinance on 865 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:38,159 their homeowners insurance. And this check is for a little over 9,000. 866 01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:43,280 And what we're what the city is entitled to do with this is to hold on to it 867 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:47,760 until the city is satisfied with the clearing of his property and then 868 01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:52,159 release the funds to him. If it he doesn't get done in a timely manner, the 869 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:57,199 city can go in and pay somebody to do it and he'll get the difference. Okay. But 870 01:14:55,440 --> 01:15:00,320 it also when I was looking at our ordinance and I found that out from the 871 01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:04,719 insurance lady because I haven't seen one of these in 12 years that I've been 872 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:09,280 here like what do I do with this? I also found 873 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:13,920 that with these, it's in our fire ordinance. 874 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:17,239 Um, we have to 875 01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:25,280 [Music] uh we have to open a fund as the fire 876 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:29,600 insurance proceed fund. All monies receive received as provided by this 877 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:33,920 article should be placed in said fund and deposited in an interest bearing 878 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:38,480 account. Well, I've talked to Fred about it after CO. I mean, I've been here 879 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:44,000 almost 13 years, and this is the first one I've ever seen. And he suggested a 880 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:50,239 separate line item in QuickBooks that this is fire fun. This is Jerry's money 881 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:53,920 whenever he gets the property cleared. Yeah. 882 01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:59,360 After we talked, I I had another thought. Do you have a fund or an 883 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:03,920 account with the state for like your excess money that's they they invest? 884 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:09,000 Okay. Not with the state. Well, you can just stick it in there and get some 885 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,000 interest on it. When does that 886 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:20,320 has to be cash within so many days? After 180 days, six months, 887 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:25,360 they did the same thing to us. It's a handful. Yeah. And 888 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:29,360 when I got our h Well, when we had to have when we got the house cleaned up, 889 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:33,440 we got our money back plus interest. Yeah. And and that's the issue. So we 890 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:40,199 can find out. So we need we can find out what the state interest is and pay him 891 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,199 the difference. So 892 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:49,600 well, I think what I think you could find out what a local bank's interest 893 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:54,400 would be for count. Okay. But much, you know, it's $8 $9,000. I think it they're 894 01:16:52,880 --> 01:17:00,719 supposed to get cleaned up within like 90 days or something. I did the 895 01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:05,600 calculation. It's like $8 a month. So, my thought was it might be easier to 896 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:11,760 just put it in your fund, your general fund as a separate fund. Put Sorry, two 897 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:16,239 wrong terms there. Put it in your general account. Okay. as a separate 898 01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:20,239 fund, which means it has a separate page and you track it separately. It's 899 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:26,159 segregated, but it's still comming. Yeah. And then if they want interest, 900 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:30,719 you write them a check for $24 from you. Okay. Okay. Because otherwise, you're 901 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:36,480 going to have to run into the bank and sign new cards and and you're going to 902 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:43,520 get 2% or 3% on your Well, when they just put it in a general fund, but our 903 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:46,600 checking account doesn't get interest. We just 904 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:55,520 I'm just asking that question. So his 90 days starts tonight. 90 days 905 01:17:52,800 --> 01:18:00,080 starts tonight. Yeah. Your 90 days starts tonight. Thanks. 906 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:05,560 I'm going to ask you questions like 907 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:18,960 you know you put now because they've allowed Do you care if it's on interest 908 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:22,560 or not? That's what I like. No, I just I just want to get it done. Yeah, that's 909 01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:28,640 my thought too. Yeah, I mean it's it's probably less than 20 bucks total. You 910 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:36,400 kept the whole $20. So, it's a lot of hassle to open up a whole new account. 911 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:40,880 So, in the 90 days when he if he's completed, can Penny okay that or does 912 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:46,159 the council need to go okay that before releasing this? I think if this is my 913 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:51,760 opinion. Y I think that's Penny's job. Okay. If 914 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:55,520 Kenny's happy, we're good. You're good. You're not Yeah. Get a hold of us 915 01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:59,920 whenever you've got it all cleared. Yeah. Like And if she signs off on it, 916 01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:04,000 she'll cut you a check. Yeah. That's Yeah. The insurance company said you 917 01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:09,440 were aware of all this and Yes. Okay. had a good adjuster. Okay. Okay. They 918 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:13,440 explained all that to me. Okay. Good. Yeah. That's what she told me. It's 919 01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:18,320 like, okay, good. Okay. So, we'll do that. Okay. Um, 920 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:24,080 Kyle emailed me and he he would like to set 921 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:31,520 up the 2026 budget meeting Monday, July 7th at 6:00 with our budget hearing then 922 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:36,960 at the August meeting, council meeting. And the reason 923 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:41,520 why July 7th, yes, because if we have to exceed our RNR, it needs to be turned 924 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:46,719 into the county clerk by July 20th before. You have to simply 925 01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:52,080 give the clerk a letter that says you're going to exceed the RNR by July 15th. 926 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:55,840 15. Okay. Thank you. But you can have your you can have your hearing later. 927 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,920 It's just you have to give her notice because then she sends out a Yeah. Yeah. 928 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:03,520 But you should be getting like just talk to her today. You should be getting your 929 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,000 information from her to finish your budget like in the next day or two. She 930 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:15,360 said because you have a July one valuation that factors into that in your 931 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:21,920 budget worksheet. didn't matter. So, will July 7th work for everybody at 932 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:27,600 6? It won't work. But what do you I can we have ball games that night? We're at 933 01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:33,840 tournament that night. But we can I can call Who's doing this for you? 934 01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:37,840 Um down there. Yeah. Okay. They're just coming to 935 01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:42,960 discuss the budget. Okay. That's not your hearing. 936 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:46,560 Yeah. This is if we have to need to receive RNR, we can get this to right 937 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,440 because your notice for your hearing has to say whether or not you want. Okay, 938 01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:54,920 I'm with you now. Sorry. It's on Monday. 939 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,600 Let this go by. Yeah. 940 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,320 You should have heard her couple. 941 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:22,120 I'll get two signatures. As far as 942 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:30,080 this last thing over there, right now I'm recording 943 01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:35,760 this council meeting because I've had some citizens ask if we would live 944 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:39,840 stream and I personally do not want to live stream on Facebook because I get 945 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,199 sick and tired of comments on Facebook. I know you can turn them off. I don't 946 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:50,320 want nothing to do with Facebook on our videos. However, I am recording this to 947 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:54,719 see if I can post a video on our website, 948 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:57,840 our city website, like Iola does, you know, with a link of the day of council 949 01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:00,960 meeting and people can get in there and view it at their own time and won't be 950 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,639 able to comment on it. They'll just sit there and watch it like watching a TV 951 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:10,480 show. But I didn't know how you guys felt 952 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:16,560 about that. Or like I said, I just had a few ask if we could live stream. I'm not 953 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:23,199 a fan of the live. No, I don't like Facebook. 954 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:26,960 Facebook. So, you okay with the just recording it and then we just put it on 955 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:31,600 our website? They can't comment on it. Well, it it' be a link and all they 956 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:35,760 could do is watch it. It's just a video file with that you put the link to the 957 01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:40,000 video. It's pretty much just watching what we you just watch, right? You can't 958 01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:42,960 comment. You can't And then if you have a concern, then they can come up like, 959 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:46,639 "Hey, that council meeting, this is what we heard." And then But I'm also 960 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:51,600 wondering, you know, how that this feed's going to be with hearing 961 01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:55,920 everybody's Yeah. discussion. Yeah. This is just trial right now. We 962 01:22:53,280 --> 01:23:03,360 may need, you know, an extra different sitting in here anyway. Yeah. And I 963 01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:09,000 didn't I I'm fine with it. I am too. Go for it. That's it. Okay. 964 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:29,120 All right. Um do that. Anything else to discuss on the agenda? 965 01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:33,120 So, did we buy a mower? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. Did I miss 966 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:37,280 the bill? We bought the mower. You guys approved 967 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:41,760 it. Yeah, we approved it, but I didn't see Yeah, we spent a lot less than what 968 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:47,199 we needed. It was on I think we put on the credit. Uhhuh. It was through Home 969 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:51,360 Depot. Yeah. Okay. I didn't see anything which I guess that's bills. I can email. 970 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:56,159 I never thought about that. I can email you, but it was a lot less than what you 971 01:23:52,880 --> 01:24:02,000 guys like 3,900 or something. Have we heard anything on the other? Um, yes. He 972 01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:06,320 says, "Yes." Um, they don't make that engine anymore, so it's going to be a 973 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:11,040 Kawasaki engine. Mhm. And RNR is just waiting on them to send it to them so 974 01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:15,600 they can put it in. Sweet. Okay. So, 975 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:18,480 in a few days. All right. Nothing wrong with the 976 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:25,760 Kazaki. Anything else? If not, um, I need a 977 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:32,639 motion to go into executive for 10 minutes on non-elective. I need a motion 978 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:37,360 to go to executive for 10 minutes. Motion by 979 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:42,199 Angela. I do have a second. I'll second it. Second by Ron. All in favor? 980 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:48,280 Just second. We got to all get out of here. I got 981 01:24:53,120 --> 01:25:03,600 I got pause on this turn. I forgot about that. That's going 982 01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:09,360 to be all right. So, I need a motion to come back into my 983 01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:16,040 session. Make a motion to come back. Motion by doing a second. Second by 984 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:16,040 Angela. All in favor? 985 01:25:16,719 --> 01:25:20,360 coming back. Yeah. 986 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:31,199 Cherylyn Angela. Yeah. And everybody. 987 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:35,600 All right. So, do I have another motion? I make a motion that we give uh I can 988 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:41,040 state the amount, right? Yeah. That we give him a 50 cent an hour raise. 989 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:45,760 Keith. Keith. Yeah. I have a motion by Charlie. Do you have a second? Second. 990 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:49,239 Second by Angela. Any more discussion? Effective when? 991 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:57,440 So on this on this week? This week. Okay. 992 01:25:54,880 --> 01:26:06,199 All in favor. All right. I have to. Yeah. Huh. 993 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,199 Okay. All right. 994 01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:16,080 Treasures report. Anybody got any questions, comments, or kind? Sorry. 995 01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:21,280 I I think we're doing pretty good, guys. Are we finished with BG? Cuz I seen an 996 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:28,719 email. We owe like a that 1,800. I think we've got the money in the I like missed 997 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:34,719 that. No, we've got the money in that. I know. I'm like, no, we've got the money 998 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:39,440 in that sewer fun. I did make a note just so I can keep 999 01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:43,360 track of it so when we do get the grant money or loan money, we can get all 1000 01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:49,520 these stuff. the stuff paid back. Yeah, like you did the the power upgrade. 1001 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:53,120 Yeah, we need to make sure we get this stuff paid back. 1002 01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:59,840 But I was just sharing it with you guys so you remember it, too. We appreciate 1003 01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:05,600 that. Okay. Anything else on treasure? Okay, we'll follow for audit. I need a 1004 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:09,840 motion to approve the bills. Make a motion approve the bills. Motion 1005 01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:13,920 by Angela. Do I have a second? No, second. Second by Rolling. Any 1006 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:19,000 discussion? All in favor? I'd like the bill for my own. I know. All in favor? 1007 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:27,840 Motion to adjurnn. Okay. I make a motion to go home. Motion by Angelus, second by 1008 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:32,920 Cherylyn. All in favor. All right, we're done. 1009 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,920 All right. 1010 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:55,120 May, I wanted to meet you. I'm Gail. My granddaughters are Austin's daughters. 1011 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:59,760 Oh, really? Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm fine. I keep I keep like I'll see to 1012 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,639 have the girls and I was like, one of these days we'll have something and I'll 1013 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:10,480 see you and I go, these are your girls, too. Yeah, they are. There's 1014 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:16,719 I know. They're growing up so fast. Yeah, she does. She's a cruel all the 1015 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:22,960 way. All over. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean 1016 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:26,800 Yeah. And when she was going to send that to us before you release