1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,400 All right. >> [clears throat] 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,960 » Well, we have a quorum here, so I'll call to order 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:13,320 the Historic Preservation Commission meeting 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:19,080 of July 27th, 2026. First on the agenda is approval of the 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:22,920 minutes from the June 22nd meeting. Everyone read them? Do I have any 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,240 motions to approve the minutes? >> Make motion to approve. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,240 » All right. Second? >> I'll second. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,680 » All right. Thanks, Shauna. All those in favor say aye. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,439 » Aye. >> Aye. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,360 » Public Relations and Education Committee, it did not meet. Is that 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:40,000 correct? I don't even think the chair is here. 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,840 And the District Committee >> We did not meet. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,400 » Did not meet, but the COA Committee did to meet. 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:51,000 My goal, 800 Cincinnati Street, if you'd like to introduce the demolition. 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:54,760 » Yep. So, St. James Church is here. They are demolishing or submitting 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:00,000 application to demolish a utility structure uh on the property. Uh it's 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:04,120 kind of a stand-alone uh boiler room that I don't think has been used since 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:10,880 the '90s or the early 2000s, so the '90s. Um it's just out uh 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,840 it's outlived its use. Um and it's causing now 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,000 um problems with the pavement around it. 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,480 The tunnel that connects to the to the church back is is kind of sagging in a 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,400 couple spaces, so we want to demolish the building, fill in the tunnel, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:33,200 backfill for the parking lot, and uh repave um 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:36,480 repave that structure. I'll get to the overhead map. 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:43,320 Uh you can see right there on your screen. It's indicated there by the red. 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,600 It's not attached to um the main school. It kind of sits out 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:52,680 on its own, so this one was pretty straightforward. They're 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:57,840 um essentially asking for approval for the demolition on site. And then in 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:03,400 addition, they are asking uh that we waive the uh 60-day waiting period. That 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,200 is not a parameter that we set. Typically, 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:15,080 that's what Board of Works does for structures that don't pose a safety 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:20,000 or health threat to the public. Um but because um 33 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,280 because this is a utility structure, um 34 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,760 I had the conversation with David ahead of 35 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:31,280 the application that that he could ask for us to waive the that 60 days. Now, 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,800 commission could oppose a week, they could oppose 2 weeks, they could oppose 37 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,440 30 days, they can waive it. It's kind of you you're not held by the Board of 38 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Works standards. Board of Works just sets a standard that if it's not um 39 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,920 if it's not a threat to public safety, then they then they uphold the 60 days. 40 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:53,160 But typically, those are on structures that have some that we might be able to 41 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:57,320 move the house or remove um details from inside the house, kind of 42 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,160 like what we did up at the um the house that the Catholic church owned 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,480 up on South Street. So. 44 00:03:03,239 --> 00:03:09,160 If there's any questions, this one was a pretty 45 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,560 pretty straightforward um 46 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:17,080 there's some pictures here from the utility 47 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,440 or from the structure. Sorry, excuse me. Any questions? 48 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,440 » This one's kind of something happened in the ground. 49 00:03:24,362 --> 00:03:31,320 » [clears throat] >> Uh and this was recommended by the C-Bay 50 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Committee for approval. 51 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280 » And do you want to explain your position? 52 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:39,239 » Uh as a member of St. James, I'm I guess 53 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:44,680 I'm recusing myself of it. Um this is a structure that 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:48,400 when we did the grant or the old school historic preservation grant, walked 55 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,800 around the building with um 56 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Division of Historic Preservation Archaeology, they excluded it from the 57 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,440 grant because they knew that it would at some point in time need to to be come 58 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:03,007 down and they did not want to put it under their covenants. 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,800 So, um so >> [clears throat] 60 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,480 » It it does have you know, a few things that could be 61 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:13,760 salvaged off of it at this time, but it is a structure that's been in 62 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:16,920 deteriorating condition for a long time. >> When the COA committee did meet as you 63 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,120 said, um 64 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:26,480 we agreed to uh approve the demolition and wave uh 60-day period both. 65 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Um with the school schedule coming up, it made sense to 66 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,520 wave this structure that is not contributing and it's 67 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:39,160 pretty much out of view. It's it's barely visible, right? Um 68 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,120 and some of the materials could be salvaged, right? So, 69 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:46,520 the petitioners would like to say anything else. They provided some good 70 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:49,960 documentation in our packet. Got a couple pages worth. 71 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:54,560 There's any questions from the commissioner if you guys like to say 72 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,560 anything, it's up to you. 73 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:02,080 » I think Michael Carver and what we discussed except with the COA committee. 74 00:04:58,919 --> 00:05:05,160 » Perfect. Are there any Yeah, right. 75 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:10,720 landscape view. I think you're seeing the picture of the 76 00:05:08,919 --> 00:05:16,320 structure that's not aesthetically pleasing. 77 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:19,560 And a safety concern to us. >> If this structure was attached to the 78 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,480 school, this would be a much different conversation, but because there is a 79 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,480 separation from the building, this one's a 80 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:30,360 » Yeah, and frankly, it's utility is kind of left its it 81 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 in history, right? >> Yep. 82 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,919 » Um so >> With the removal of the smoke stack 83 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:40,760 years ago, if that's what it indicated what it was, 84 00:05:38,919 --> 00:05:44,400 you know, that's that's what kind of made it a landmark. With the 85 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,560 removal of that, there is not much history left. 86 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,600 » Any questions or comments from the commission? 87 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,080 I have a motion. >> I'll make a motion. 88 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,400 » All right. Would anyone like to second? >> I'll second. 89 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,560 I'll second the point. >> Any seconds? All those in favor say aye. 90 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,720 » Aye. >> Aye. 91 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,920 » All those opposed? Motion carries. 92 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,440 » Approved with waving the 60 days, correct? 93 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:11,000 » Yes. And the demolition both. >> Thank you. 94 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,120 » I think it's both actions, right? >> Demolition and 95 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,640 » Clarify that we voted Should we vote twice on that? 96 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:22,280 » No, you can Essentially, that's a caveat of the approval. We're approving the 97 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:29,440 demolition and waving any kind of You could just say any kind of waiting 98 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,440 period. So, it It's one and the same. 99 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,640 » Next to staff report. >> Yep. So, um I'll get you out of here 100 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:43,280 quick. The only real question I have is a couple times 101 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:47,520 um this meeting time at 7:00 p.m. has come up 102 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:51,640 as to why we have it this late. Um so, I'm going to without a full commission, 103 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,919 I'll probably send an email ahead of next month's meeting, but we could 104 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:01,600 potentially um move this meeting to 5:30, 6:00 p.m. 105 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:05,680 start, anything that's earlier if that works for the majority. We can have a 106 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,000 conversation about how many votes it would do. We don't actually have to vote 107 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,600 on it in um in the ordinance. It just states that if 108 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,280 we have business, we have to we have to meet once a month. Doesn't indicate a a 109 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:23,800 day or a time. Um so, we use this time for um to attend 110 00:07:20,919 --> 00:07:26,720 after work. Uh anyone to attend after work. Um 111 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:31,520 you know, people are still working that are on this commission, and so um you 112 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,600 know, if 5:30 doesn't work, or 3:00 doesn't work, or noon doesn't work, or 113 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,840 whatever. But I think for the purposes of starting the conversation, we would 114 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,440 probably be looking between 5:30 and 6:00 start time. Just to bring it down a 115 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,640 little bit earlier if that works for the group, but I'll send an email out Uh 116 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,640 ahead of next month's meeting. Speaking of next 117 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:56,040 month's meeting, if we don't have a CFA, next month will be the Harn Museum. So, 118 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:02,560 we'll keep this day and time. However, if we do have a meeting this meeting in 119 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:06,960 here next month, I'll need to move the Harn meeting to a different day. 120 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:12,240 So, I'll probably send out a Doodle Poll or something to see what day and time 121 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:16,560 would work best for the majority of us. >> So, right now it's the 24th? 122 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,240 » It is the 24th, yeah. Yep. 123 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,600 » Great. >> So, that's it. 124 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:25,440 » Awesome. All right. Is there any comment from the 125 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,440 public? 126 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Do I have a motion to adjourn? >> I'll motion. 127 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,240 » Second. >> Second. 128 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,200 » Thanks, Julie. All those in favor say aye. 129 00:08:32,599 --> 00:08:35,200 » Aye.