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I'll turn it over to you, Ian.
>> All right.

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Um
well, we have open mic for the Urban

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Forest meeting number three of the Urban
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we need to do a necessary round of
introductions, but I recognize Anne

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Penick's online
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Bolster, and Melissa.
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Sorry, with Pierce Conservation
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» Okay, excellent. Right. Um introductions
Melissa was here in person last time,

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right?
>> Right. Right. She just couldn't make it

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today in person.
>> Right. And then And then in the room we

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have
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morning,
Sam and Charlotte Rogers.

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» I'm Martin.

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» Christina.
>> Same on Christina, Department of Natural

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Resources.
>> Same on Christina.

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» Same on Christina.
>> Same. Same.

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» And Christina Falco.
>> Uh-huh.

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» Well,
>> Uh Janet Erving.

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» I'm Mark Erving. Yes, I'm Mark Erving
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» Yeah. Okay.
>> All right. And then we have Ian down

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here.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm with the parks.

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» I'm with the parks department.
>> Same on.

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» Same.
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» I don't know if that's an Urban Forest
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» I'm with the parks.
>> Sweet. Okay, there you go.

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» Certainly do.
>> I'm conditions to be here.

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» City Council Yeah, exactly. The City
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Task Force and you said,
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» Yes. Appreciate your engagement.
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All right. So, um
let's see if I take it one step at a

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time here. Um
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couple of reminder slides of where we're
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corner of this slide.
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we're working on the Urban Forest

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Management Plan as part of the
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Natural Environment Climate Change Task
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drafting a plan
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resolved through city to present to the
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hopefully get city council approval on
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our agenda for today is kind of similar

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to the last time. What we want to do is
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dive at the indicators for for a
sustainable urban forest. Look at how

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the the the current state of the
of the city and and

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and community is. See if we can uncover
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or actions from this conversation and
then preview into the next meeting.

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So it
I put it in like a 30 30 20. I think you

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know, through the course of this
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looking for that goals and objectives
feedback throughout the conversation.

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And certainly if you're online and and
you want me to slow down or ask a

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question,
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Uh
this slide is similar slide you've seen

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before. This is this is our strategy for
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development.
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natural areas last time. This time we're
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properties and community stakeholders.
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as in the handout,
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different uh kind of categories of
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the large institutional land owners,
real estate, yada yada, you know, down

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that list. And
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them off here as bullet points is
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So in in preparation for this meeting,
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conversations with Karen and and
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we've drafted up we
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the city and community community
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indicators for sustainable urban forest.
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assessment gave gave a a low performance
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categories. And that's not it's not
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you know, it's it's
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the city can make improvements. And and
some of these categories may not even

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these are kind of a standard approach.
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readily well apply to the city.
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large institutional land owners. We'll
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very large land owners in their in in
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um commercial property or industrial
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the city does cuz we we graded as low,
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partnering with some volunteers and
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um to address park beautification and
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those other things. Um but they are they
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um and and not necessarily handled in a
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is what an urban forest management plan
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of all these different
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in in preparation for this, uh you know,
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that so so
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that was done. This time we're we're
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notes that I've provided to you you got
folks here are referenced from um this

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establishing the roots of urban forestry
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a
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consultant. Say the city city's already
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what its limits are and what it needs to
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through through this document that was
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you know
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kind of a similar perspective to that
that previous slide that I shared that

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you know you need to know what you have.
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look at your community to build some
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you know the city to provide a lot of
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substantial leadership to sustain that
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posted on the the neck
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it's if it's not it's not readily
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to get it back to you this meeting.

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Uh so so taking a look at so so now
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each one of these different indicators
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probably the most robust place to have a
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neighborhood action. So
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like to to be trying to achieve is that
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neighborhoods cooperate and participate
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neighborhood level. And urban forestry
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we've said that there's little or no
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performance at a
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what what could it be for the
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majority of all neighborhoods are
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towards a unified set of goals and
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hang out there, but I but maybe you want
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neighborhood stewardship programs
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leadership roles. Um and do any of you
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neighborhood or with any of you guys
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American Lake Improvement Club. So,
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water.
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necessarily on that list. Do you Do you
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» Woodbrook?
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you can see American Lake. So, Lake
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» That's my neighborhood. And the shores
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invasive species, you know, um
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» Right.
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um whether we wanted park, what kind of
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improvement. So, that's uh we're doing
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in some cases. In one case, we're
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aware of
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been to every single one of them.
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throughout the city and engaged.
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wouldn't say hyper-focused focused on
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particular neighborhoods, but I think
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large sense of pride and and you know,
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and wanting to be involved in how
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I think these are the same folks that
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and are just engaged in in various, you
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there you see the 2022 Tree Advisory
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and prioritized tree planting areas
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and access to urban forest canopy.
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area, uh the downtown, Tillicum
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in absence of any further direction from

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you folks, I would be, you know, writing
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um emphasis to to cultivate, you
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opportunities in in somewhere like Lake
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area that has the lowest tree cover
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being the trees. I'm so important to
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» Once these hours actually you just
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Wright's Lake Park up in the northeast
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blackberries,
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volunteers. Um
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having, you know, come and support your
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do flashy
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park boards can find it.
And it really did renovate the

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Made a huge big difference. And

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definitely the people are walking there
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Um and the volunteers turned out
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don't know if you
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well. There's a volunteer
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area about healthy.
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everybody who's in the woods has to
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start, you know, helping at works like
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» Right.
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trees, at least in the public areas, you
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well. There's two different types of,
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the urban forest. And
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you know, the the the neighborhood may
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trees in the ground or to help identify,
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they they, you know, but it but it does
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bigger actions and objectives out of
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I don't know here to say how I should
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communities, you know, to put put the
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that's why we wrote it up as an as more
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immediate action cuz it's not really a
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right? Like a like a an easy opportunity
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we have an individual in this
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wants to plant 50 trees that have
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they're just looking for they're looking
for funding and support. That would be

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an easy action and
move forward. I'm not necessarily

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hearing that, but we want to cultivate
to you know, those kinds of people,

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right? So
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or both in the wires.

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infiltrating

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urban forestry

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at neighborhood level.

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Does the The city can tell tell the
neighborhood hey, we know

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you know, there's space for trees here.
We want to get them in the ground, you

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know, what we can offer and and there's
vehicles for private property tree

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giveaways.
Um but you know, you don't plant a tree

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in someone's front yard and they don't
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battling right there right then and
there, you know, the same plant a street

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tree and you have
an an adjacent owner uh you know, has to

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assume some maintenance care
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need some education outreach, right?
And I think you know, that that that can

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be like the short-term actions making
sure that you know, cities cities'

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websites
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informational resources lend itself to
saying look, you need to plant a tree,

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we want you to help keep the tree.
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» I also think it'd be really helpful if
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a plan.
Um I just think about what happened in

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or Silicon Forest.
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but when the when the Saxon burned,
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kinds of plans. I want to plant a tree.
I've planted a tree. I want you to have

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goats. And
after after you know, there was no

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integrated plan. All these volunteers
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like well, we can use them here and
here. And so trees got planted and they

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died because nobody watered them. There
wasn't any way

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management. And what I said is is there
a city volunteer coordinator? I mean

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would it would it be a big ask to to say
say and is there an existing volunteer

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coordinator at the city that we could
start you know, leveraging in this plan

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or is that something that would need to
be hired?

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» Uh no, there's a person on staff whose
initial responsibility was with our

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neighborhood associations, but he's also
taking on a new role where they are kind

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of refining how volunteers are brought
in, trained, and then turned loose on

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whatever projects that he'll also be
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» Okay.
>> So it would be just Chris. You know,

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it'd be really good.
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» Yeah, so so so it's it's strengthening
What do you say like strengthening the

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capabilities of the
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» But I I really feel this community has a
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people that are used to serving in the
military for example and they're they're

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so active. They want to
pitch in. They want to take charge.

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We've got great leaders out there, but
we aren't able to really access that

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resource without a plan.
>> And and do you think so so

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perhaps creating that you know, if every
neighborhood association had someone at

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that meeting that represented us as a
neighborhood steward and was routinely

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paying attention to the opportunities
for trees.

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» Yeah.

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job description.
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there and you kind of touched on this
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a fair amount of community groups that
are service-oriented like Rotary that

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are thriving and actually have money to
spend on projects but they don't have

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pathways to engage with just yet. So, if
we provided that pathway

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I I think there there are places and
opportunities that exist currently where

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resources are available including
financial and manpower that just they

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just need to be given a direction and
and some guidance.

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Um and I think they're they're more than
ready and willing to step up

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in in that capacity.
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under-engagement, local local funder
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going to talk about that
under-engagement

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at
at the regional level as well.

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Yeah, that's that's definitely something
that we want to take advantage of there

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and then it could be as much as as
simple as Home Depot saying there's a

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you know, they want they want to you
know, help sponsor a program and maybe

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they're providing trees for planting
project in the in the in Goodwill

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District.
>> It would be nice to also have like a a

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showcase piece. Like we're going to
restore this and we're going to direct

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everybody's attention to that.
And I'm thinking about um Phil's uh

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Phil's Urban Farm.
The

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used to be game farm.
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» Oh, South
South Central, yeah. So, that

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that is a focal point and it's it draws
attraction and it also it funding

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itself. Like people who want to apply
for grants for that.

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Um it's it becomes come and see what we
have done.

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Or maybe you want to pick a

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» You should pick a location for your
examples

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of urban forest and
UDF

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best practices.
>> Yeah.

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» You don't want to live across the street
from where they paved them.

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» Well,
it's starting You got to start

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somewhere.
>> Yeah, that that was

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» That's what That's where the city cut
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They're very large so
>> Okay.

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» We have to learn to cut them.
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I I mean I think you know our our very
first meeting Dan and you were talking

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about like a like a lot of cities will
establish some sort of arboretum an

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example of trees that will grow well in
the city. So that could be that could be

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formed part of that showcase.
>> Right.

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» Right? Um so you say what kind of trees
do I want to plant in my yard? You can

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go to that showcase location and you you
named one of

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» Spot? As in
uh you know a

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» Important Was Lake Worth Park?
>> Lake Worth Park is gone.

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» And it's Lake Worth State
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» Um yeah, but I mean
an arboretum arboretum would be very

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interesting.
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» Wold does could maybe be a partner in
that cuz they have gardens and credit

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gardens. They have incredible
but they might be interested or we can

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maybe interest them in
showing developing

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native
a native uh garden.

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» No, that was Lake Lake Wold.
>> Yes, W O L D.

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» Yeah, I've seen that.

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» Yeah, yeah.

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» Okay.
And I'm probably going to just fill this

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up with ideas. I mean
I wanted to see if I could keep them

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categorized but I don't think it would
be successful.

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» Case might be partnering with Dave
Ousley or Derek House. Derek House but

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um
His college environment

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He's got He's been having some great
restoration of Flood Creek.

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but it's kind of small. Flood Creek goes

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all through like what it and it's
covered with weed canary grass and

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blackberries. You can barely see it most
of the time. But if that could be

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something that we could maybe
work on opening up and you know oak

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swallowtail islands.
>> I I I I I hear that and I think what

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what I was thinking about was more like
like a a spot that is is com- like a

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common urban area for urban forest.
Right? So not not necessarily going into

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into an an
you know an ecologically

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» Just so you see that we we cross Flood
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» Okay.
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if we thought that there was a way to
clear and see

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» Yeah. Okay.
>> something

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» Okay.
So so I I catch that. Is that Is that

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» And you can actually
we could yeah, we could actually just

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showcase his project.
You know.

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» I know.
>> Yeah, talk about him and what he's

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doing.
>> All right. And that might that that

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might even be a short-term action to
just to say and make some modifications

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to the city's website next year. So I'll
follow like that. Yeah.

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» So what do you think? I was going to say
before I mean it's nice to bring some of

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the planting and the trees and stuff.
But I think before that I think

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the
care of the trees has to be sorted out

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like who's going to water all this
stuff?

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» Right. Neighborhood stewards.
You might have a set of a neighborhood

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steward program.
>> And they don't have to go like driving

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around and water
>> Perhaps or or like the city the city

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will get you know we can get to a point
maybe where the city has has funds for a

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watering program to you know to to
contribute to this project. So the

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neighborhood galvanizes for a day,
plants 50 trees there, everybody takes

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home and takes home a little note about
the tree that's in their front yard

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that's got plans what they should do,
and if they're not capable of watering

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it, that's where the city might be able
to step in and say, "You know, we'll

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organize them in in a different way to
say, okay, you know, it's we planted a

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tree in your front yard, you're going to
keep an eye on it, but we're going to

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come by, we've got water bags, and we're
going to water and prune and and and set

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up a program to to make sure the trees
stay."

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» So, it doesn't come out like what Linda
was saying, like that, you know, like

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people randomly do something and then
like they die or something.

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» Right, right. You get You get real
excited to plant a memorial tree, you

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you do it you do it middle style, you
throw it in the park, and you you you

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you
wish it well, and then you recognize

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that the city doesn't have any schedule
to take care of your trees.

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And cuz they need a lot of care, so.
>> The second thing was an idea, I mean, it

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maybe it would be nice because it's
right next to city hall,

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and easy to keep an eye on, and it would
be would improve it really a lot, and

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it's new.
So, it'd be like a new site. Is that

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apartment complex over there?
They're going to need a lot of trees, so

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maybe like
plant some of the trees there and have

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those people involved, and you know,
it's like

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very close to city hall, and I think
it's fair that city at least was looking

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forward to have
um all those new apartments, so so it'd

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be a nice way to engage and get them
involved.

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It'd be really a good site, too, right?
Cuz they're making those new apartments

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there.
>> That That was a good way to segue if we

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keep if we to go to the next slide,
which is your large private

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institutional land owners. I mean,
that's that's kind of they they they may

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not be qualified as the as the large as
you're describing, but it's certainly a

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high-profile opportunity to make a
showcase with the right partnership and

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the right alignment of effort.
>> This is also the shopping center.

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Shopping center is the apartment
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I guess the street is a
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a parking lot. If you're going to put it
in a parking lot,

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we could do this.
>> We could

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» you know, just
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» I don't think it can require that, but
here you can probably a lot of parking

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spot. What are you going to do on the
site? Are you going to be planning where

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are you going to push your your trees in
the park? How are you going to pick

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that? Are you going to be, you know,
just out of that in the natural plan?

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What are you going to be?
>> Yeah, so part of

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any permit that comes in, and Mr. Good
speak more eloquently on this, but

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there are significant planning
considerations for anybody putting in

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a building permit or a business license
application that includes traffic impact

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plan, parking plan,
um,

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uh,
removal or addition of trees, that's all

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considered when they put those initial
planning requests in.

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But, as far as what can or can't be
required, that'd be a great question for

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Mr. Good.
>> Yeah, I mean, there's code requirements

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and then there's policy as well that
talk about landscaping vegetation,

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um, requirements and then things that
are encouraged or discouraged. And so,

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if you're going down the path of this
should happen in parking lots or this

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should happen in, um,
project review and approvals, that would

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be recommendations that could come
through the urban forest management plan

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for the city to take a look at as
potential code amendments.

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» Right. Right.

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I'll put that in over here as the bigger
things, codes,

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amendments.

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» Or maybe better
Last time and last time I think we were

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saying about the parking lots that we
could see through the window, that would

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be increased costs, right?

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Really good point.
>> But, maybe we could help these trees, so

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the trees, so ones that are dying in the
parks.

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» Um, okay, so so the so the the the this
the second second category here is, uh,

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that large and large and private
institutional land owners brace CY goals

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and objectives through targeted resource
management plans.

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Um and in some case like I was thinking
there's the the the hospital

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the West the Western
>> Western State

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» Western State
>> Right. You know, that's the

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the largest hospital in in Washington or
something like that.

438
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,120
» There's only two state mental health
ones up in Eastern and Western.

439
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,080
» Yeah, exactly. So it's so and I don't I
haven't looked up what how many acres

440
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,160
they have, but if we kind of frame them
as a maybe an example of an institution

441
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,800
that you know, no you know, if you went
to that institution and and they they

442
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,760
know that you know, tree or if they
don't, they can certainly be

443
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:34,640
taught through research that trees
benefit people's human mental health.

444
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,240
And you know, and and you know, that can
be a showcasing opportunity. Um it can

445
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:43,480
also be a place you want to stay away
from. If they have this if if they if

446
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:48,560
the if the institution has a a 50-year
vision of building out an extra building

447
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,680
in the footprint of of a handful of
Garry oaks that we would want I'm sure

448
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,080
we could could we not have that
conversation and you know, have have

449
00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,720
help have the city kind of engage with
that, you know,

450
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:05,640
» They did call a gigantic building
project down there. I think they managed

451
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:09,240
to not cut down too many trees.
>> Right. Right. Like they're on board with

452
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,360
the idea of building something that
preserves some of the character of the

453
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:18,280
city, you know, and some some companies
some

454
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,520
industries aren't necessarily
into that, you know, they just want to

455
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:27,000
get that space and and
acquire the property, cut down the

456
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:30,760
trees, build things build build
>> Anecdotally, I I think

457
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,640
I think uh since you're mentioning them
specifically and they do have a rather

458
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:36,480
large project going on over there right
now, it is worth mentioning. I think

459
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,920
they've been a a
a responsible partner in this area and

460
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,760
and
and uh in the development of that

461
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:48,160
project and the execution, certainly I
think they've given precedence and and I

462
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:52,240
have a desire to
uh move forward in a way that makes

463
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,800
sense to the ecology of of the area.
>> Mhm.

464
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:59,840
» See, and I I think I think it's like
when I write down the we know in in the

465
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:04,080
plan we want to recognize the recognize
some of these entities as being

466
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,960
important to the to the city, important
partners to the city.

467
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,720
I'm going to just say I'm going to just
recognize them.

468
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,320
I mean
and that might be like like like I could

469
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,440
see us in the in the in in the UFMP
recognizing how much can be cuz we have

470
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,960
that information. How much can be in
that large parcel? So we've got the

471
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:35,240
hospital, you know, and and so we could
say the hospital has this much and and

472
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,240
and are there
I thought I saw that there are parks in

473
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:44,040
the city that aren't necessarily city
managed parks.

474
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:48,240
» Um there's several privately Yeah.
>> Um I mean is it I guess I could work

475
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,560
with you Tiffany to to firm up a whole
list.

476
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,680
» Sure.
>> Does it belong to the city?

477
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,280
» Is that county or like the
>> Yes, it's city.

478
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
» Which one?
>> Cedar Lake.

479
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,280
» Oh, yeah.
>> It's city.

480
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,640
» What was that What was that one,
Christina?

481
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,440
» Cedar Lake belongs to Cedar Lake.
>> S E

482
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,720
F Y
>> You got it.

483
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:19,760
» Okay.
Um Tiffany, do you do you recall if the

484
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,800
if if the facet assessment looked at
non-city properties? I thought I think

485
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,000
it I thought it only looked
>> It was the public right-of-way, but it

486
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:31,040
was also large parcels that were owned
by like the school district. Yeah. It

487
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,800
did look at Western State Hospital, St.
Clare Hospital, and the school district.

488
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. So we will definitely re-tap

489
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,360
that.
Um

490
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,520
you know, other than that, I mean I I I
I don't know if they like like to be to

491
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,960
to have a high high function
relationship with the large land owners

492
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,680
land owners. You might have clear and
concise goals that are established for

493
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,200
large land owners
through direct education and assistance

494
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,760
programs and key land owners and
institutions have management plans in

495
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:06,240
place. So like they in the long run
maybe West View Hospital has a 20-year

496
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,680
urban forest management plan for their
property, all right?

497
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,880
So
Well, I

498
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,600
don't know if that's up here, but that's
you know, that that would be the the

499
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,120
aspiration in the long run.
Um

500
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:26,000
We go We go to the next slide. How are
we doing on time? Okay.

501
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Um we might might have to might have to
speed things along

502
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,120
just a little bit just to just to hit on
each one of these topics, but we'll

503
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,280
we'll see.
Uh green industry involvement. So So

504
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:41,880
this category is where the green
industry works with the city citywide

505
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,680
urban forest goals and objectives. And
the city and its partners capitalize on

506
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,760
local green industry expertise and
innovation. So

507
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,160
» Can I stop you right there? Yeah.
Coming from the housing background that

508
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,040
I have, green industry means something
different than I think the way you're

509
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,400
using it. So can you define that,
please?

510
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:01,960
» Oh, sure. Okay. So So these could be
like like like the chosen slide here.

511
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,240
The green industry would be like the
people that are doing tree work

512
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,560
with landscapers, tree workers, you
know,

513
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,640
cuz cuz you could have you could have a
really robust program that trees, but

514
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:16,360
there might be a culture of poor pruning
practices out there that that you would

515
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,520
want to try to
make effective change on.

516
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:26,920
I I you know, I remember working with
Renton and they had issues with you

517
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:30,360
know, the the all the car auto lots want
to be able to make sure everybody can

518
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:35,400
see their cars. So they every year will
pollard their trees down to down to the

519
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:39,200
stubs, which is a very poor practice.
Doesn't lead to can't be and it's and

520
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,600
and it's arguably not very effective and
expensive for them, but the landscapers

521
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,280
that are doing the work are still
saying, "Oh, well, if you're paying me,

522
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:51,040
I'll cut it however you want me to cut
it." So, there's education that the city

523
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,520
can bring to the table on both fronts.
And and then in terms of other green

524
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,320
industry,
you know, it could be the nurseries and

525
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,280
the hardware stores that are selling the
trees.

526
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,240
You know, if the if they have a
the city has a preferred list and you're

527
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,120
communicating with that, they might you
can start getting you know, positions in

528
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,080
place to get the trees that you want to
have in the city available. Cuz that's

529
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240
I've seen that happen, too, that you
know,

530
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,360
the desirable trees just aren't even
being grown or they're they're you don't

531
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,480
have to order them 2 years in advance or
3 years in advance.

532
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,760
» Um
>> Two ball ball trees.

533
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,200
» I also when I saw green industry, I was
thinking the same as you, spirit. Like

534
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,920
» Well,
>> The term green industry also was I I was

535
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,240
confused what you meant by that
originally.

536
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,040
» Oh, okay.
>> So, so I I would also think that it

537
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,920
would be better just to call tree
industry something.

538
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,480
» Tree industry, yeah. Okay. Okay.
>> Cuz it doesn't it has a different

539
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,440
meaning.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

540
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,440
I just thought

541
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,600
» Yeah, you have a lot of opportunities
um

542
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,720
for like
cross disciplinary training

543
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,640
amongst like city staff you know, and
also with like any contractor tree

544
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:05,880
workers and non-contracted nurseries.
Um even like going all the way down to

545
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,399
the homeowners and some of the companies
like

546
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,520
making sure that everyone's on the same
page on like strategies cuz it's like no

547
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:16,760
talking is put in the city code. So,
like that's that's pretty clear off the

548
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,879
bat like that's like a goal, but how you
communicate that and how you like

549
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,000
about that.
And your your industry workers I think

550
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,639
it's
is an objective or a goal or even an

551
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:34,800
action actually like, you know, provide
like training opportunities for staff

552
00:34:30,919 --> 00:34:38,840
and contracted tree care workers. Make
sure everyone's on the same page. Even

553
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:43,000
something about uh
going a little bit more into what the

554
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:47,720
current tree policies and ordinances
look like to make sure that they know

555
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,720
what they need to abide by, what what
boundaries are in place when they're

556
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:53,960
working in Lakewood.
Yeah, cuz a lot of these companies are

557
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:58,400
working across King and Pierce County.
And so, they don't really know who what

558
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,360
city cares and which one doesn't.
>> Right. Right.

559
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,160
» Okay, so.
>> Yeah.

560
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,480
» What does the last one say? Local?
>> Local the local policies.

561
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,880
» Local policies. Yeah. I was going to say
um I think

562
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:15,000
uh
the first thing that has to be done uh

563
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,000
after the training is training the city
with that.

564
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Because um
I I don't think that they necessarily

565
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,360
also can judge well with what problem
pruning is. Like, I don't have that

566
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,200
experience.
Once there was a um

567
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,960
a
big very upset word about

568
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:37,440
illegally and terribly, you know,
everything was cut off except for

569
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,720
basically the trunk of the tree by Black
Angus. And when

570
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:46,040
when I reported this to code
enforcement, you know, they went and

571
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:52,160
they checked everything, but the deputy
city attorney, she told me that "Oh,

572
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,440
that was just pruning, so that is not
you know, it's not code enforcement."

573
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,640
So, I mean
we assume that people know what pruning

574
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,720
is, but I think really there needs to be
somebody expert to interpret what

575
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,840
exactly means.
>> And and and and we'll we'll we can come

576
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,720
back to this slide, but you've done an
excellent job of getting us to the next

577
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:12,560
slide, which is about city departments
and agencies cooperating. Yeah, yeah,

578
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,160
yeah,
it's like it's like you read my mind and

579
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,560
we're going to do that. This is the
direction we want to go in. And and

580
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,520
we'll we we will spend a whole another
task force session talking about the

581
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,400
city what we know about the city's
operations and the specific things the

582
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,960
city could do to improve to improve. But
I mean, I I do see it, it's it's it's

583
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:36,200
like the like the city staff can can
help the the the local tree workers by

584
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,080
hosting hosting events and even
demonstrating to leadership, you know,

585
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,840
what what what the right thing is to do.
Um

586
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:48,400
You know, that I I I did want to float
out there with the the the with the

587
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:54,000
green industry is that uh like the city
of Seattle established a a registry for

588
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,760
um tree tree work in the city. And if
you're not on that registry, you're not

589
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:02,000
approved. Like, if you if a a homeowner
sends in a permit application to remove

590
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,680
to remove a tree, they can only choose
from the approved city city vendors. And

591
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,680
and it's it
I don't know if there's appetite for

592
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,760
that right away or if that's something
that they, you know, you think it might

593
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,400
be reasonable to explore here, but I
always pitch that as it's similar to um

594
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,760
how you need a license to be a
hairstylist. You know, there's health

595
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,680
concerns there, so you want to have that
little like if you're not operating

596
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,440
in a way that, you know, if contrary to
public health, you know, you're going to

597
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,120
you're going to have your business shut
down. If you're not taking care of

598
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:37,040
trees, following ISA best management
practices, you're probably not going to

599
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,520
be able to operate business in the city.
And and that but that would be that

600
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,080
would be a big step, you know, and
but they like that wouldn't be that

601
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,720
wouldn't be as quick as [clears throat]
you necessarily

602
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,400
» I don't know if that would be a big step
or not.

603
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,000
Because when you do an RFP for something
like treating the lake, you've got to

604
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,560
have
certain certificates and you have to

605
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,520
have it show
>> If you want to register somewhere, you

606
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,440
just, you know,
>> Yeah, so

607
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,920
» Yeah, I mean, I think like they like to
get kicked off with the Seattle

608
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:09,080
registry, you have to you have to be
doing

609
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:13,200
doing breaking city code like actively
doing work tree work that is goes

610
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,240
against city code, cutting down a tree
without a permit.

611
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,640
» But, it wouldn't be hard for a city to
say, "We're going to hire you, but

612
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,400
you've got to meet these standards." So,
you are

613
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,920
» It I think the issue is when it's the
private property owners are also hiring

614
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,880
folks.
>> And how would that be tracked? Yeah.

615
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:31,520
Yeah.
>> I mean I'll I'll I maybe I won't put

616
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,840
that one up here as a as an official
idea, but I but I it's certainly

617
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,720
something I think is
is is a real Well, maybe it

618
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,400
» So in Seattle, do the private property
owners have to follow the same

619
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,400
or they can just hire whoever they want?
>> Well,

620
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:49,280
they can they they can
So if I I think it is the way way it

621
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,680
works is if they want to if they want to
do work on a on a tree in their front

622
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:59,640
yard that's a city managed city city
owned tree or right-of-way tree, they

623
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:05,600
have to they have to use um
um city approved registered contractors.

624
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:09,200
I but I I I kind of think it's operates
for private properties, too. You're

625
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,200
You're nodding your head.
Like I'm on that list and I know it's

626
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,160
essential that it cuz you know, our
company can't do but as far as I

627
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,840
understand, we can't do any work in the
city on the city work with them. Well,

628
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,560
but I think even on private property,
too.

629
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:28,520
That's true.
>> I think that the city doesn't can't

630
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,400
can't control that if a private citizen
hires one of the companies to cut things

631
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,800
off of their place. But the way, you
know, when they reach out and they're

632
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,560
like, "Hey, we need someone to like
bring this tree. Can you recommend you

633
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,440
send them this list?" Which you have
definitely a way to say yes. It could be

634
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:45,720
that yes, but
certain right.

635
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:50,840
standards of
of care so that the it retains a value

636
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,000
their real estate value, you know. It's
something that

637
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,800
» HOAs are controversial. I don't
know how many HOAs are more peaceful,

638
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,520
but I think that would go over like what
I believe in for a lot of neighborhoods,

639
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,640
to be honest.
Just from what we've seen.

640
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:11,240
» Something like that on city business
license.

641
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:16,080
Would that be I mean, if you if you
don't abide by city

642
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,120
you know, guidelines about pruning or
whatever, then then they not have the

643
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,640
city business license. in.
>> Remote.

644
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,400
» Yeah.
>> No violations, so yeah.

645
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,920
» And that's good right there. So I mean
there are there are there are mechanisms

646
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:32,360
in place, but but then
you you know, you're you're a chainsaw

647
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,960
operator with a pickup truck, you open
up your business license, that business

648
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,360
license gets shuttered, you say, "Well,
I'll change my name and open up a new

649
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:42,520
business." But I think that's I think
there's other ordinances like this.

650
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,040
» If you had
If you did I mean

651
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:48,160
I've done business
>> Once they get a violation.

652
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,560
» Pretty useful.
Um you get repeat customers.

653
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Where it's kind of like, you know, we've
shut you down twice, we know who you

654
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,800
are.
>> Yeah, right.

655
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,040
» We're not getting
>> Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah,

656
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,000
okay. Okay.
>> This This sounds like to me this is an

657
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,080
education
thing that we're talking about primarily

658
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,680
and
>> Of course that's fine and there are

659
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,520
rules already you can take away people's
licenses if they're not operating within

660
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,680
code.
>> Right. Right. Well, and and but

661
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:20,400
» But we want to take this to the
education side, which is

662
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,640
whether it's HOA or whatever it is, but
getting in front of the people and

663
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,280
spreading the word out about here's the
proper ways to maintain trees.

664
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,680
» Right. And all of that. So they This
seems like two completely different ads.

665
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Yeah, I call I call them carrots and
sticks.

666
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,640
» Yeah, but it seems I mean I would assume
that we have sticks already, right?

667
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,040
» Yeah.
>> Cut trees illegally and it's a business

668
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,240
dealing with it. They can shut
>> Right.

669
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,440
» Right.
>> Right. So so through this UFMP process

670
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:51,480
we may identify some nuances for that
that that that you know, might might

671
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:55,280
might improve it or it might just like
like a like a

672
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:59,600
simple action for the city might be just
to make sure that if they contract out,

673
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,560
they have to abide by all these, you
know, if they have ISA certified

674
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,600
arborists or some staff that they're
honoring city code and and

675
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,880
I'm not sure on that.
>> The other thing to always remember in in

676
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Lakewood is we don't own any of our
utilities other than storm water. So,

677
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:20,880
anytime you see people out cutting along
the right-of-way for utility purposes,

678
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,960
it's likely hired by Puget Sound Energy,
Tacoma Power, or Lake Whatcom Light and

679
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Power. So, it's a matter of one more
layer of trying to get the message out

680
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,760
to the utilities as well.
>> Well,

681
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,760
that's not Well, that's not quite the
next slide, but we are going to We're

682
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,080
going to touch on that utility
cooperation relationship. And that And

683
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,520
then And then that's exactly like I
think of I I think of

684
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,160
experiences with Mercer Island where
they they said that the utilities, if

685
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,600
you guys want to remove any trees,
you're going to have to plant three

686
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:53,880
trees. Um
I I will We'll We'll get We'll We'll get

687
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:58,120
over to the utilities here in a
probably the next 10 minutes. Um

688
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:03,960
cuz the next category was a what
cooperation and and partnerships, which

689
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,960
kind of came in out of order, so Peter.

690
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,480
This is
Explain it. And so the the the bottom

691
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,880
It's the second page is the bottom and
then I think it was regional

692
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,760
collaboration, Peter.
Um

693
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,800
Cuz they you know So, this is where like
Zeman might have an opinion or or Anne.

694
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,800
Um
you know, like like I I'm recognizing

695
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Washington DNR has ready grants
available. They're very encouraging of

696
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,120
uh of
urban forest activities and and they

697
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:35,080
have open grants for the city
um or we know they have a bunch of you

698
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:40,520
know, 200 or so dead trees from the
inventory. Uh could potentially put

699
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,800
together a grant package to get funding
to cut those trees down and plant them.

700
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,320
» I saw you in the meeting yesterday.
>> Okay. So, I was there. Okay.

701
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,320
Okay. All right. So, like you know,
things are already happening.

702
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:56,240
» And and on that topic, I brought up uh
training opportunities because we need

703
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,880
also provide that for free. So, that's
another opportunity.

704
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,920
» What kind of training?
>> Uh like tree pruning to planting to

705
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560
maintenance, basic urban forestry
principles.

706
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,600
» And it's free?
>> It's free. Yeah. The only requirement is

707
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,600
and that's why I mentioned like having
city staff are willing to is that

708
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,960
there are members of the of like
publicly funded agencies being able to

709
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:20,880
come. So, it could be like the tree care
workers and city staff. Um

710
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,560
It's for yeah, get points on.
All right. You guys are seeing this

711
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,360
partners. Yeah,
that's helpful. Yeah.

712
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:31,840
There's WSU extension program that's
going to be helpful.

713
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,800
Um yeah, Pierce County.
>> How many cities take advantage of that?

714
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,800
» Oh, I would say we do like a training a
month.

715
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:45,320
Across the state? A few more, but yeah.
And we do what we do and we don't. Like

716
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:48,920
we would host it in Lakewood, but it
would be available to anyone that could

717
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,400
get there. Wow, big news. Do you have a
residence?

718
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:55,800
» Yeah. Again, another way that cultivates
regional partners

719
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,880
» Right.
>> to to help keep everybody doing things

720
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,120
to the same standards.
Yeah.

721
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,760
» you.
>> I I think there should be an action

722
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,280
plan. Let's do this right away. Let's
look into this.

723
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,480
» Yeah.
>> Definitely. It's already available.

724
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:15,400
» Okay. Well, yeah.
>> the city parks and open it up to anybody

725
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,360
else is that by you?
>> Right. Right.

726
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,760
» Um
Yeah. And and I know a lot of other like

727
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:27,320
municipalities in King County. I'm
sorry. Pierce County. Will like have

728
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:32,240
like joint contracts together that have
been really helpful. So, another

729
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,560
opportunity like if you are looking for
to

730
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,840
get a contract out there that's you
could have a contract in the city of

731
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Tacoma.
So, we have a lot of opportunities for

732
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,680
regional collaboration, but

733
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:50,040
» Is it typically the parks in the in
those municipalities that are

734
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:54,080
under it for the
maintenance and municipalities?

735
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:58,640
» Actually, it's it's a pretty wide range.
I would say like we always will have

736
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:03,800
like planners,
um parks folks, and like public works.

737
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Public works tends to be our largest,
yeah.

738
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,240
» Yeah. Um, and and in terms of like I
often think about watersheds cuz they

739
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:15,520
tend to extend beyond city borders. Is
that Is there Do you guys have any

740
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,920
histories of conversations with the So
what watersheds?

741
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,240
» Chambers Clover Creek.
>> Chambers cuz that extends to with with

742
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,040
other just jurisdictions.
>> Yeah, it crosses borders.

743
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,840
» Okay. So it's Chambers and
>> It's Chambers Clover Creek is the name.

744
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,280
» There you go.
>> Which one?

745
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,440
» Which Chambers Clover Creek Watershed
Council used to be

746
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:36,960
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> And then just for my clarity that So it

747
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,320
starts in like I'm visualizing the map.
>> Burk and Peterson

748
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,560
» Peterson, yeah.
>> And it doesn't really have any It goes

749
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:48,000
to Steilacoom
on one side and it goes out to

750
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:52,440
Steilacoom about
that part to Tacoma.

751
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,200
» So it's So it's a shared watershed with
Tacoma, I guess is what I'm fishing.

752
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
» Yes, it's kind of
>> All right, so it's kind

753
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,240
» Then it goes through University Place
and out.

754
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,000
» Yeah.
Yeah.

755
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,680
» Is that as well?
>> You plan

756
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,360
» Chambers
>> Yes, straight leech feed.

757
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,760
» I want to say there's one word that's
like 1%

758
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,400
» Yeah. Yeah, Chambers Clover Creek is the
big one. Yeah.

759
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,360
» Right.
>> Yeah, so there there may be nothing

760
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,760
obvious out of this to to to the but but
if this that that's that's what we're

761
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,200
we're looking in that category of
regional collaboration. Hey, you guys

762
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,640
got a a stream that runs through your
town.

763
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,840
Um, let's look up river and see see if
we're cooperating well to maintain

764
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:33,200
quality.
>> We would definitely We do give small

765
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,360
grants for projects.
>> Yes.

766
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,440
» So that's definitely a part of
with this.

767
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:44,080
» That the city funds.
>> The city We would go 360 degrees.

768
00:47:42,382 --> 00:47:47,600
» [laughter]
>> But I mean it goes for the projects

769
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Yeah. Yeah. One.
>> Yeah, too.

770
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,720
Um
>> But I would definitely be interested in

771
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
negotiating agreements.
>> The treats.

772
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,200
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

773
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,480
» Pulling out water.
>> So the the So the Chambers Creek

774
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:06,280
Watershed Collaborative list
>> Now, when is it also a Chambers

775
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Coalition that's a nonprofit?
>> Right. Yeah, my

776
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:14,960
» And I think Chambers Creek was well
mentioned in the U Dub report, but as

777
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,960
you know, kind of

778
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:24,303
does not does not have it. Okay. Um
So, let's just take a look at the

779
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,600
city cooperation, I think was
>> [snorts]

780
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,160
» was another um
uh

781
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,040
city departments cooperating. So, we we
put this slide together again. I think I

782
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,200
think, you know, our next meeting's
really going to have more focus on the

783
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:41,240
on on on how the city works, but um um
you know, the city departments and

784
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:45,200
agencies to cooperate to advance
citywide urban forestry goals and

785
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:50,520
objectives. Um
And you know, we we we answered this as

786
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,480
low uh just because we we recognize, you
know, there's the planning department's

787
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:56,880
working on the urban forest plan. The
parks department does their thing. The

788
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,960
public works department does their
thing. Um a lot of I think I think what

789
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,080
you're going to see in the plan is
probably just that recommendation of

790
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,920
forming some sort of leadership team in
the city. Usually like I've heard it

791
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,760
referred to as a green team, you know,
where it's like one person from each of

792
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:15,440
these departments routinely meets to
look at urban forestry plan objectives

793
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:20,680
and and what they're doing, how that
fits in with the plan. Um so, um so, I'm

794
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,280
not I'm not
unless anybody has some some immediate

795
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,240
thoughts on this, I'm going to I'm going
to

796
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,320
move past that one.
>> Uh just one note uh Ian that planning

797
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,360
and public works are all one department
now.

798
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:38,240
» Okay.
>> So, um just for accuracy's sake. And um

799
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,920
I am in that department and Ted is in
the parks department.

800
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,214
And parks covers facilities and
operations.

801
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,234
» All right.
>> [snorts]

802
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:54,240
» All right. All right.
Uh

803
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:58,600
So,
next slide was I we have different

804
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,440
agency cooperation. So we
have mentioned Washington DNR. We've got

805
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,400
We've got some recognition already that
there's

806
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,320
recreation and conservation offices
that that work good um

807
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:15,040
uh that that
Pierce Pierce County Pierce Pierce

808
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:19,280
Conservation District um
and and these were identified in that

809
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:23,560
EUDAP report as well and Washington
Department of Fish and Wildlife may

810
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:26,560
provide some funding sources. Um
and and all

811
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:31,400
all of these
outside groups and stakeholders have the

812
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:35,000
potential to help the city if the city
knows what it's trying to do.

813
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,240
All right. They may
>> Sorry. I'm

814
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,440
» We got something good.
>> No, no, no.

815
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,440
» Okay. Oh, yeah. You probably do anyway.

816
00:50:41,855 --> 00:50:43,875
» [laughter]

817
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,080
» I'm just not to see Department of
Ecology on there.

818
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,920
» Department of Ecology? Yeah. Yeah, okay.
>> Definitely missing.

819
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,840
» Any examples of experiences with how the
Department of Ecology has worked with

820
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,920
with other cities or
>> Yeah, they have like a Well, right now

821
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:14,800
they're managing that the storm water
municipal permit. So Oh, yes. Yeah, so

822
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:19,400
they have required urban forestry
requirements so something like that. So

823
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,000
they do have their finger on the pulse
of urban forestry and they do have

824
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:29,680
requirements across the state.
>> And to what

825
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:33,720
» Should also have the Pierce County um
weed coordinator.

826
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,960
We got kept Pierce County weed boards
with five commissioners funded with

827
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:43,560
taxpayer dollars.
And they have a weed coordinator who can

828
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,040
speak to all of the invasive species
means.

829
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,680
» All right.

830
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Okay.
>> It

831
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,760
was regional collaboration that is so so
we

832
00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:02,680
briefly touched on Pierce Conservation
District. There's Tacoma Tree

833
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,240
Foundation. I believe that you guys have
had some taken some assistance from

834
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,240
Tacoma Tree Foundation before, right?
>> And the Pierce Conservation District

835
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,720
both. Yep.
>> So

836
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:17,200
so that you know these can be resources
planning opportunities and again I think

837
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:21,240
I think this all circles back to to to
the city just prioritizing and

838
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:26,400
identifying projects that they can reach
out to with these organizations. Anybody

839
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:32,440
here can comment on how the Nisqually
Indian Tribe has has engaged with the

840
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:37,480
city in the past?
>> It's well, we have relationships with

841
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,400
various people in the tribe leadership
and

842
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:45,760
on staff for a variety of things, but in
terms of this specific effort we're

843
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:49,360
waiting for their key climate person to
come back from vacation at the end of

844
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:52,600
this month and then we're going to start
conversation.

845
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,600
» Okay.

846
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,920
It's two
as well yes sir.

847
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:05,280
» One last thing on that last slide, the
the Tree Steward program wherever that

848
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,000
may need to go.
Yes, they have a

849
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:14,440
steward role that Tacoma Tree Foundation
has the Tree Steward

850
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:18,720
program where they can training um
neighborhood

851
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:22,840
captains essentially to steward tree
planting, education, and planting

852
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,840
projects. So
>> Yeah.

853
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,680
» That's a great
>> They have a model

854
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,840
or
>> They have a model in place. Yeah, and

855
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,840
it's a model developed by the Arbor Day
Foundation. So

856
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,840
» Right. Right.

857
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:40,440
Arbor Day
Foundation.

858
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,400
Okay, well I don't expect anyone to read
this thing.

859
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,200
» Yeah, that makes sense.
>> Thank you.

860
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:48,960
Um
>> All right. So,

861
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,680
yes. So, there's So, there's regional
collaboration powers and utility

862
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,920
companies.
Certainly, yeah, some of those some of

863
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,680
those actions that you might you might
engage with like we like we said it, you

864
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:01,960
know, establishing maybe some
requirements

865
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:06,640
you know, for them to to be able to
prune trees in the city that they they

866
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:10,840
have operate some best practices as
provided by the city, but it can also be

867
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,920
more than that to be looking at and they
can be a source for for trees for

868
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:19,160
planting opportunities. Um you know,
whether it's you know, it might be it

869
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:23,680
might be targeted outreach to like Lake
View Light and Power to say, "Okay,

870
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:28,640
where where you know, overlay their
their utility infrastructure with

871
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:32,160
existing tree canopy GIS that we have
and see where see what kind of trees are

872
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:37,080
in conflict and then look at you know,
over 20 or 30 years optimizing

873
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,320
so, you've got trees that are that are
low growing in the in the in the right

874
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:44,040
of way
and then maybe they're removing

875
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,360
you know, a a a
as an example maybe there's a large

876
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:53,400
bigleaf maple that's been growing
underneath the power lines and has to be

877
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:56,840
pruned every 2 years which is gas, it's
like all the all the environmental

878
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:01,360
impacts of the action of having to prune
that tree routinely. Instead, take the

879
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:06,840
tree out, put in
put in five trees there plus maybe five

880
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:11,160
trees in another area to to help offset
offset the um

881
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:15,280
the environmental impacts, you know, I
mean there's ways to to pitch it, but a

882
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:19,560
lot of utilities do get on board and
partner with cities because they know in

883
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:23,600
the long run it's good it's goodwill and
it's

884
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,960
reduces the amount of liabilities that
they carry if they don't get to that

885
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,440
tree in time and starts a fire, you
know, and then

886
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,320
you know, and then just the act of
actions of having to routinely maintain

887
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,600
the tree.
Um

888
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:41,320
See that happen?
>> I think the one they have their own tree

889
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:44,840
committee and they do
finally discussion was whether the

890
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:49,720
utility should
talk to the fire department

891
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:55,720
tree protection board.
And they don't. So, would it be possible

892
00:55:52,440 --> 00:56:00,720
to also make it a goal to have some old
changes to be put in place something

893
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:05,320
uh
advise by the same utility board.

894
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:09,080
Of course, I understand that if there
was an emergency,

895
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:14,440
if it was a tree fall or something
or something else, that is

896
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:20,560
with us having to really grow things to
carry out something like that.

897
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:27,640
And I'm telling you if we don't
we'll change the city utilities and um

898
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,640
offer a

899
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:35,600
operate with city BMPs.
Right? So, the city says, "This is This

900
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:39,360
is our This is our approved approach to
taking care of trees and the tree trees

901
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,800
along our along these utility corridors
that you guys have an easement." It

902
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:46,960
often is a it is a putting it out here
as a goal because it's a it's a it it

903
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,960
may be a multi-year negotiation to to
work out, but you know,

904
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:54,560
in absence of a plan, there's not any
that conversation may never even happen.

905
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,080
Um
Yeah.

906
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:02,760
Um think about there.
Um

907
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:06,640
uh funder engagement. I think we we
touched on that a little bit. So, that's

908
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:13,080
you know, um
again, this this is the idea that um uh

909
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:18,160
you know, that that if we have um what
what you have I wanted to ask a little

910
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:23,640
bit about the the tree fund that that
you guys have. Is it Is that that one

911
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:27,880
that is that money is put into that fund
from developers, right?

912
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:33,360
» Money is put in as uh from a couple
different sources. One is a fee in lieu.

913
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:36,280
Another is civil penalties when there's
violations of code.

914
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:40,800
» Mhm. Um
illegal tree removal or main or taking,

915
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:46,320
you know, topping, that sort of thing.
And then, uh there's one other category

916
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:50,480
that's escaping me, but in any event,
it's not a predictable source of

917
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:53,720
funding. And so, while right now it's
got a a pretty healthy balance, there's

918
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,440
no guarantee it's going to stay that way
over time. So, we had a project where

919
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,640
there was, you know, hundreds of
thousands of dollars put in because of

920
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:06,960
violations. That's not going to happen
every year that you can predict. Um but,

921
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:12,000
that um is there and it is intended to
be a long-term standing resource for um

922
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,680
at this point the urban forest program,
but perhaps other parks things as well.

923
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,200
And so, it's a matter of um being really
clear in our budgeting when the city

924
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,920
council takes it up, you know, how is
this fund going to be used?

925
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:27,360
» Yeah, okay. Well, now and I was going to
ask that like how is the fund allowed is

926
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:31,360
there restrictions on it? I know some
cities they it only leads to you can put

927
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,200
trees in the ground, but you can't spend
it on anything else.

928
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,560
» There is a list within our code that
says it can be used for these things,

929
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:42,280
but we haven't gotten to the next step
of saying in the 2027-28 budget, it will

930
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:46,520
be used for X, Y, and Z.
>> Okay, yeah. So, so maybe this may not

931
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:50,560
wind up in the plan explicitly, but I'm
going to I want to make sure

932
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:55,120
» Yeah, we are including some um line
items in this budget proposal that's

933
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:58,560
going in front of council this fall,
um that's very vague because it's

934
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:04,080
stemming from what you guys are doing
right now. It's the um NEC task force

935
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,280
recommendations. So,
going forward in future budget items,

936
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:13,280
it'll have to be more specific to start
with, but we're able to as a starting

937
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:17,920
point say there's this much money for
NEC recommendations. We'll see if it

938
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,920
stands.

939
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,040
» There's a fundamental problem with the
money in the tree fund

940
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:27,600
because
you said some of it comes from the best

941
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,960
goals. The funds you put in the bill.
And

942
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,360
for example, they called it a mitigation
fee for 114 trees. They also have a

943
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:39,680
spray program.
So, they collected 400 something dollars

944
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:43,440
as it was a mitigation fee. So, the
expectation is that it would be used to

945
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,960
mitigate. But as far as I know, it
wasn't used to mitigate. And so, I think

946
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:53,440
really if something's supposed to be
mitigated, it should be mitigated.

947
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:57,440
» Like you've directly implied that the
funds that are collected should ideally

948
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,760
be used on site.
>> I've seen it broken down to say

949
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,320
» Not necessarily on site because you
know, it also needs to have an area

950
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,280
that's
>> Sorry, yes. I was

951
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:10,800
just going to say it's it will be
ranked. So, it'll be like first option,

952
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:14,440
mitigate on site. Second option, if you
can't mitigate on site,

953
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:18,160
within like the community. And then you
keep going down and then being like the

954
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:22,640
fee. So,
So, there's yeah, there's options to

955
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:26,360
to break that into the options.
>> Those priority habitats and you know,

956
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:29,480
that was in that law.
So,

957
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,720
that's it's in that law because it's
law.

958
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:35,480
» Right.
>> They were average 1.7 inches.

959
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Which is then multiplied by 90 and
you're trying to get to 100 and 50

960
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:42,560
inches. So, that that just doesn't it
cannot exist like that because that

961
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,800
doesn't make any sense.
>> Right. Right. And then and then and and

962
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:49,440
there are there are those instances,
right? Where they're they're paying into

963
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:54,920
a mitigation fund, but if it's not
getting used, then it's

964
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:57,160
like it's not actually mitigating. Like
trees aren't trees aren't getting

965
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,480
planted or
>> But but somebody the city council

966
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:04,120
meeting one of the
council members said, "Oh, there's this

967
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,480
chunk of money you can use it to set up
the

968
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:10,440
urban tree
urban forestry program."

969
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:15,640
Which is not mitigation for the 1400s,
right? I mean, if you're buying

970
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:18,880
a body or urban urban is not mitigation.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

971
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:23,480
Yeah. No, I I I think that's a fair
point and uh

972
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,200
I know it it the old is it Emma? Yeah.
>> Sorry. I have to say

973
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:30,960
» now.
>> I just want to add in terms of other

974
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,000
funders there was a part of saying for
at least yesterday from the

975
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,840
national urban and community forestry
program. So there are there is some

976
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:42,000
funding opportunities on the national
level. Now we literally just got them

977
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,600
yesterday so
>> So it was the

978
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,600
the
urban department or

979
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,160
» Yeah with the with the foresters youth
foresters.

980
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,000
» Yeah they have a
national urban and community forestry

981
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,640
program.
>> So is this committee eventually going to

982
01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,320
decide do we need to
recommend an urban forester to take on a

983
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,880
lot of this work or are we going to say
this we're going to

984
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,240
be existing staff or
>> I think you are. Yeah I think you're

985
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:10,440
going to be recommending an urban
forester and we're going to have the CRG

986
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:14,160
we're going to help articulate the value
and the rationale behind it.

987
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,560
Uh but but right now right now that you
know if you pass this plan and you don't

988
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,880
have any any person taking the lead role
in

989
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:28,720
shepherding the plan or the the then it
will it goes nowhere.

990
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:32,280
Unless you want to take on even more
work to right? You know that's that's

991
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,160
often what happens is you get the plan
drafted and then then an existing

992
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:41,480
employee has to has to shepherd it and
it it just becomes something on the pile

993
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:44,480
with the other responsibilities.
So it's definitely something to watch

994
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:49,240
out for. Um
yeah I'm I'm going to put this on here

995
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:54,640
identifying shovel ready projects. I
think I mean I think that's going to be

996
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:59,080
a key for the for the city and you know
a lot like like River City has already

997
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,440
done a lot of the work they they know
you know what's going on with the with

998
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:07,360
the the natural areas where they where
there's like they prioritize the issues

999
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:10,640
in natural areas. They prioritize the
the street tree inventory. It's time to

1000
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,560
start doing something. They know where
these planting spaces so building the

1001
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:18,720
projects so that when the grant funds
like the same as presented you know come

1002
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,200
available it's very quick to say, "Okay,
we've got one here." Maybe there should

1003
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:26,320
be, you know, uh and then some sort of a
some sort of like a short-term action

1004
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:31,160
for the city in in the plan that we
identify and the the

1005
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:34,480
five or 10 eligible projects that that
all they need is the is the funding that

1006
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,840
we might
Wow.

1007
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,480
» I'm going to be timekeeper here. You got
15 minutes.

1008
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:43,280
» 15 minutes, okay. And I think I mean, I
think we're we're kind of going through

1009
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:48,680
the the the
um the slides pretty well here. Public

1010
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,560
awareness. So, this category was was
identified as that, you know, the

1011
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:56,160
general public understands the benefits
trees and advocates the role and

1012
01:03:53,680 --> 01:04:01,680
importance of the urban forest. Um we
graded it as low just because of uh

1013
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:06,080
um the you know, the the the current
public perception surveys, um you know,

1014
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:10,240
was that was people were, you know,
concerned about urban forestry because

1015
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,320
of smoke from wildfires and excessive
heat. So, you know, urban heat island.

1016
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Um and you know,
but hopefully, you know, I I believe

1017
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:22,080
that there's more.
There's more There's more value to trees

1018
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:26,120
than to it and and and if we want to get
into a high-performing relationship with

1019
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:30,520
the community, uh you want to have trees
seen as as valuable infrastructure and

1020
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,600
vital to community's well-being.
The urban forest should be recognized

1021
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,880
for the unique environmental, economic,
and social services it provides the

1022
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:41,120
city. So, this I mean, this comes back
to again just the value of the city

1023
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:45,360
providing some educational resources,
building up the neighborhood stewards,

1024
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:51,640
you know, creating creating that chorus
of voices um that that, you know,

1025
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:55,600
puts trees puts trees as as a as a as a
priority. So, you you know, say put the

1026
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:59,680
right trees in the right place. If that
that if that person who wants to plant a

1027
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,680
memorial tree comes to the city, they
should say, "Yeah, absolutely. We know

1028
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,600
exactly where to go. This person you
talk to. Here's the pro- you know, let

1029
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,880
us know what property. Sure that fits in
with our management plan by adding 50

1030
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,720
trees there." I keep looking at you cuz
you're not you're We've got eye contact

1031
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:16,290
and you're nodding.
I apologize. It's all right. Okay.

1032
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,240
They're all
>> [laughter]

1033
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:22,720
» So I just had a question for realtor.
Um

1034
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:27,080
I want to buy a lot see a home that's
been, you know, flipped or going to flip

1035
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:31,355
it. And it's it's those the house looks
beautiful. They haven't really put any

1036
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:35,680
trees in the trees grow pretty
[clears throat] easily here. And is that

1037
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,480
something that a realtor could
could

1038
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:44,400
» Yeah, we're talking with actually Pierce
County Conservation District

1039
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:48,760
Dana over there that runs that and
hopefully going to launch a program on

1040
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:52,360
you think about this fall but maybe by
this spring to get ahead of their nest.

1041
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,480
So you what's that every year that you
will plant a tree and

1042
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,800
not to get away with
>> Get away, yeah.

1043
01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:00,560
» Yeah, um
we want to do a year-round program with

1044
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,560
them. So uh
I think they started a pilot which is

1045
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:07,640
like because you're aging
and go and buy you hey, here's a closing

1046
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,120
gift.
>> Right.

1047
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,360
» Buy you some trees and plant them
something like that. That's what we're

1048
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:16,280
trying to work with the local with them
to forestry foundation also

1049
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:20,280
on creating some stuff like that.
>> Yeah, cuz yeah, exactly like as an

1050
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,640
investor maybe I buy a home and do all
that remodel and flip it and it's just a

1051
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,800
matter of a right phone call to the
right person and that will also deliver

1052
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,000
a tree to the yard that will enhance the
landscape.

1053
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,760
» Yeah, that's also I mean you can
construct too. There's always

1054
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,040
opportunities to plant more of the
plants like but yeah, that's so that's

1055
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,800
the thing we're discussing right now.
>> Good.

1056
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,440
» Yeah.
>> Right.

1057
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,640
» Um we have a question online Ian. Look
at here.

1058
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,440
And
>> Hi, it's Melissa with Pierce

1059
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:49,000
Conservation District and I was just
wondering who was talking because I

1060
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:52,600
I manage all of our urban tree programs
and I'm not aware of the that program

1061
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,720
that you were describing. So I just want
to

1062
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:58,120
» No, I we're we're talking this is Shawn
Martin at the Realtor Association coming

1063
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:01,760
for scan of those are something that we
had Dana come in

1064
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:05,400
a few months ago through our
yeah, through our government affairs

1065
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:09,520
committee and so this is something that
we're

1066
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:14,120
ongoing discussion with her about, but
yeah, it's not officially done yet. Uh

1067
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,680
we're This is I think October is what
she said. They'd come back in October

1068
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,440
and let's
see if we can figure it out then.

1069
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,000
» Okay.
I might end up being in that meeting

1070
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,760
with you.
>> Yeah, no, it sounds like you should be.

1071
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:30,840
» Yeah, okay. [clears throat] Thank you.
Thanks, Alyssa.

1072
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,160
» Okay, so yeah, we're we're we're coming
down to the end of the meeting here and

1073
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,840
you know, I don't I don't have a hard
stop, but I know we

1074
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,040
you know, to be respectful of others'
time kind of kind of need to come to

1075
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,480
some sort of wrap.
Um

1076
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,520
Uh so
the the goals, objectives, and actions

1077
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:50,840
that you're seeing here on the screen,
um these these again this sort of come

1078
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:55,520
from me as kind of seeding seeding ideas
with you guys in absence of any other

1079
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:59,560
ideas. But you guys are giving me a lot
up here on the board. Um but

1080
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:03,280
um I was saying just based on our
research so far um that maybe we could

1081
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,360
um
provide an annual or or that the that

1082
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:12,040
the city as an action would provide
annual urban forestry program updates.

1083
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,520
Park to planning, park sports, and youth
councils in you know, as part of

1084
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,839
community meetings. Um
that

1085
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:21,400
that
they include urban forestry questions in

1086
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,359
routine public surveys.
Um you know, that's you know, again like

1087
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:28,200
like any kind of standard, you know,
gauging the gauging the opinions of the

1088
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,480
community, there should be some
questions in there. Um

1089
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:36,880
uh constructing a volunteer system. I
think we've we've started leaning

1090
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:40,520
towards that. Um and and any idea of uh
of steward uh

1091
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:44,440
stewardship. Um
neighborhood stewards. Uh you know, a a

1092
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:48,799
volunteer coordinator. I think we've
already we already have that existing.

1093
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:52,319
Um maybe they'll need some support, you
know, something like that. But but these

1094
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:57,440
are all short-term actions. Um
and and an approved tree company

1095
01:08:54,480 --> 01:09:00,960
registry. That may or may not last and
all as a as a as a short-term action.

1096
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,400
It's kind of like it It cost any money
to uh sort of create it, but it might be

1097
01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:08,759
it might be something that
programmatically

1098
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:13,680
doesn't doesn't doesn't move very fast
politically. Um

1099
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,960
Uh and the operational objectives, so
things that that may need a budget

1100
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:22,400
eventually. Um
you know, so the align UFMP objectives

1101
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:28,799
with regional goals. Um
and and and I I think you you I know um

1102
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,600
you can hear me on the call.
You're

1103
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:34,279
» Can you hear me again?
>> Yeah, you're working as a county to

1104
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:37,680
develop an urban forest management plan,
right? Um

1105
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:42,600
you know,
>> Yes, that's absolutely correct. And

1106
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:50,520
as part of that we're going to be
looking at our tree code and trying to

1107
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:55,040
bring forward a package of codes that
municipalities in our county

1108
01:09:52,759 --> 01:09:58,880
can have to take a look at to see if
they may want to adopt them or not.

1109
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:03,760
» Okay.
Yeah, so so the county the county has

1110
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:06,480
some sport services in in in
development.

1111
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,280
Um
Uh

1112
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,640
engaging the green industry, we talked
about that. Um

1113
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,600
building a volunteer stewardship
program,

1114
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:19,000
hosting workshops in private tree care
from owners. So I

1115
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,240
I mean I I don't know if it fell but we
we're kind of arriving at the similar

1116
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,920
conclusions through this conversation as
well.

1117
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,960
Um
and then in a long-term goals um you

1118
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:31,960
know, like like
by 2050, you know, definitely I think

1119
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:36,200
the the
top item would be strong engagement with

1120
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,920
neighborhood associations and community
associations.

1121
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:45,360
Um so you know, so or like that
neighborhood associations are conducting

1122
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,200
tree planting projects annually. Every
neighborhood association in the county

1123
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,040
every year, they're going to get a
handful of trees and then we're going to

1124
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,560
put them in the ground and we have a
system in place to do it. You know, that

1125
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:58,560
would that would be a nice like stretch
goal for this urban forest management

1126
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:02,360
plan. It doesn't happen right away, but
over time would be

1127
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:05,200
creative a high-performing urban forest
program in the city.

1128
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,160
Um
I don't know if anything anything on

1129
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:11,720
here catches you as objectionable,
anything that I've set up here and you

1130
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:16,880
know the the the
immediately problematic. Okay. Um

1131
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,760
» I just question on goals. I think just
uh

1132
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:22,360
how is this being
What are we doing with this? Like how

1133
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,840
official are these things? Is this like
you're going to work together with staff

1134
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,600
and we're going to bring in shop and
that here? Like what is that? Like

1135
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:31,320
» Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking about it
cuz he Tiffany proposed that one more

1136
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,800
urban forest task force meeting in
October, right?

1137
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,080
Yeah, I I I got I got
>> Okay, yes. Yes.

1138
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:41,480
» I sent you calendar invites. You got
one, right? And you know, and and and

1139
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:45,440
and that's I was I exactly wasn't sure I
know we're going to draft up the goals

1140
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:48,640
and share them with the city and I think
she's going to be able to distribute

1141
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:51,640
them to you guys, but I think I've I've
you know,

1142
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,600
adapting to this project as we go. I'm
thinking probably would make sense that

1143
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,480
we have that we utilize that meeting as
a way to bring all of these three

1144
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:03,440
conversations together. So so at that
point I'd make more of a presentation um

1145
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:07,440
that that says well, these are the goal
These are the These are the goals and

1146
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:11,800
objectives objectives and actions for
the plan that that that we've we've kind

1147
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:15,400
of come to as a group and at that point
you guys can you know, chime in with you

1148
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:18,720
know, make some but that way that way
they they they're coming not just not

1149
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,600
just from me as the as the hired
consultant and they're not just coming

1150
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:26,800
from the city, they're coming from a
cooperative collaborative group so to

1151
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:29,280
speak with the task input. But that that
made sense to you. I think we're going

1152
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,160
to keep going with that meeting in the
city.

1153
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,200
Good good question.
>> It's like

1154
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:37,760
» And then I did kind of struggle with
that, you know, I I want I want to get

1155
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:41,160
everybody um you know, like it like
again as as we're coming to a wrap on

1156
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:46,000
this meeting, if there if there are
ideas that come to you after this

1157
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,760
meeting, don't hesitate to email them
through through Tiffany and she'll

1158
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,920
forward them on to us. We'll try to find
a way to to consolidate all of that, but

1159
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:56,480
you know,
like, I I'm coming at you with a lot of

1160
01:12:54,080 --> 01:13:00,560
different ideas and information. So,
I know, you might have a 2:00 a.m.

1161
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,440
flash of inspiration.
>> Write it down, send it over. What we

1162
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,080
were talking about was
students in schools.

1163
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,360
» Students in schools.
>> So, the city reaching into

1164
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,320
» Right, right.
>> students in schools.

1165
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,720
» Students in schools.
>> That's a good point.

1166
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,080
» I'm going to I'm just going to put it
down here as

1167
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,600
» K-12
outreach.

1168
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:21,440
» Well, and because there are students in
schools, they are, you know, a lot of

1169
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:25,360
the school properties are not
necessarily city properties, but they

1170
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:28,800
are tree planting opportunities and that
they're great places, you know, and then

1171
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,960
that's the that's the the the
scout troop,

1172
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:35,840
you know, planting trees or the or as a
learning project at a school can can

1173
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,920
work on trees.
>> They take a tree home and then they

1174
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,920
plant it in the ground.
>> Take a tree home to your parents and

1175
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,520
then the parents go, "What the heck do I
do with this?" And they go online to the

1176
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,200
city's website and they see, "Oh, okay,
I see I can plant the tree. This is the

1177
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:53,040
best I don't plant this tree under my
power lines. Plant it in the backyard, 5

1178
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:57,760
ft away from my house so I don't
react to the insurance company's fire

1179
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,120
wise directives. I mean, like it's it is
kind of, you know,

1180
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,520
forestries complicated.
>> But even just teaching basic

1181
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,600
» Yeah.
>> tree care.

1182
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,080
» Yeah.
>> Take a tree to grow and

1183
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,520
» Yeah, yeah. Students in schools, so I
think I mean, that absolutely we'll want

1184
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,240
to make sure they're getting some
recognition

1185
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,760
as an opportunity. Um so yeah, so our
next session preview,

1186
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,160
um
so this is this is where we'll we'll

1187
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,840
we'll we'll
we'll we'll go into what I think might

1188
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,280
be sort of the the
the

1189
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:29,640
Well, I I think it's going to be a fun
conversation for sure, um because we're

1190
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,040
going to look at, you know,
we're

1191
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,320
putting Tiffany and Ted on the hot seat
to represent the city and we're going to

1192
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,520
we're going to talk about all the things
the city can do and what they may be

1193
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:43,120
able to do and what they
Oh my gosh, series will come.

1194
01:14:41,561 --> 01:14:45,960
» [laughter]
>> Um okay.

1195
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,440
Uh
so yeah, so we'll we'll talk about we'll

1196
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:52,040
we'll we'll talk about like future, you
know, so they've already had a canopy

1197
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:56,840
assessment but there's, you know,
routine canopy assessments.

1198
01:14:54,240 --> 01:15:02,040
Um, management plans should be updated
routinely but there but, you know, like

1199
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:04,960
um, developing, you know, local like
specific park specific management plans.

1200
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,080
These are going to be, you know, like a
five-year basis species management

1201
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,840
plans. Those are the kind of things that
would be a priority for a city.

1202
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Um,
definitely setting up programs to

1203
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:17,480
maintain the public trees. Um, and and
informally, like

1204
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:21,840
I think there, you know, there's there
might be informal tree care going on in

1205
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:25,760
the city because they identify an issue,
they grab the crew that they have to to

1206
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:29,920
solve it and but it's it's reactive. And
when when and and this program should

1207
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:34,080
move towards something proactive
proactive that's well funded.

1208
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:39,600
So we'll talk about tree protecting
policies,

1209
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:42,440
um, city staffing and equipment, um,
But it it it would be funding kind of

1210
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,880
comes in again, you know, they they they
believe they the conversations believe

1211
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:50,720
through this and faith for this
and so some of it might come from, uh,

1212
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:54,200
you know, a long-term city initiatives
that that that's

1213
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:59,280
got to be improved. Things like that.
Um, disaster preparedness that that

1214
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:04,080
that's the topic of the week, you know,
the city should be taking a good look at

1215
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:10,080
but I I'm often on conversations, you
know, about wildland fire wildland urban

1216
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:14,360
interface fires or
emergency corridors. So making sure that

1217
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:17,840
you're you know, where you
where the ambulance is expected to run

1218
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,760
in the event of emergency don't have
existing hazardous trees. So maybe

1219
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:24,680
you're taking you're doing an extra
extra level of care on certain priority

1220
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:30,280
streets, make sure that they aren't
blocked in the event of an emergency

1221
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:33,600
when like a major wind event. Um,
other than that, uh, yeah, so

1222
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:37,160
resilience communication, these are all
topics we're going to

1223
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:42,400
do a deeper dive in on the next session
and we have four minutes for questions

1224
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:48,920
and then we'll talk. But I again, I
thank you. Thank you for attending and

1225
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:52,000
giving your thoughts and all this. It's
Hopefully you'll look back 50 years from

1226
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:56,200
now and say, I hope this city will
become something.

1227
01:16:54,240 --> 01:17:01,080
» A couple of things if I could. First of
all, again, apologies for lunch. It

1228
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:05,960
should have happened and didn't.
Okay, yeah, please take stuff with you.

1229
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:10,240
But also there is actually a fall tree
sale that the city is working with

1230
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:13,800
Pierce Conservation District about. So
I'll send you all information. Hopefully

1231
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:19,040
you can spread the word.
That's going on right now and then

1232
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:23,040
people will be able to pick up trees. Uh
I want to say truck and tractor day,

1233
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:27,800
which is in October sometime. So anyway,
I'll get you that information online. I

1234
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:31,800
sent you over the last 24 36 hours a
couple of invitations for upcoming

1235
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:36,760
meetings. So hopefully that came to you
okay. Please let me know if you have

1236
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:41,920
questions. And I'll just ask also online
anything Karen or Eleanor you guys want

1237
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,920
to add?

1238
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,120
» No, this was wonderful. Thank you guys
so much.

1239
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:52,280
» Okay, great.
>> Great conversation.

1240
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,040
» Thanks Karen. All right, turning it back
to you again.

1241
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,680
» Okay, well,
I think that's the end and

1242
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,440
without any further objection we'll
adjourn the meeting and

1243
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,920
look forward to the next one and all of
you guys too.