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[5:58] Thank you for your participation. [6:02] >> City Council member, agency director, [6:04] » City Council member, agency director, [6:04] authority members who Leslie [6:06] >> present. [6:06] » present. [6:06] >> Molly [6:07] » Molly [6:07] >> present. [6:08] » present. [6:08] >> Man, [6:08] » Man, [6:08] >> present. [6:09] » present. [6:09] >> Vice Mayor, Vice Chairman Christ, [6:11] » Vice Mayor, Vice Chairman Christ, [6:11] >> present. [6:11] » present. [6:11] >> Mayor Chairman Paris [6:13] » Mayor Chairman Paris [6:13] >> here. [6:13] » here. [6:13] >> We have a quorum. [6:14] » We have a quorum. [6:14] >> Thank you. Uh I love the voice. The [6:17] » Thank you. Uh I love the voice. The [6:17] voice is much better uh for that. But I [6:21] think what we should probably is let's [6:23] do it let's play it after the [6:25] presentations [6:27] because it kind of you know it slows [6:29] things down right so that's just just a [6:33] thought all right uh tonight the inv [6:36] this afternoon the invocation is Ethan [6:39] Ethan I don't know how to say your last [6:41] name [6:41] >> it's like perfume birthing [6:44] » it's like perfume birthing [6:44] >> from Grace Chapel [6:49] city council thank you for having me [6:51] don't worry about the last name I still [6:52] don't know how to pronounce it. [6:55] Uh but uh ju just a a brief scripture to [6:58] read before we pray. John 18 verse 36. [7:02] Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of [7:06] this world. If my kingdom were of this [7:09] world, my servants would have been [7:11] fighting that I might not be delivered [7:13] over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not [7:15] from this world." Then Pilate said to [7:18] him, "So you are a king?" And Jesus [7:20] answered, "You say that I am a king. For [7:23] this purpose I was born, and for this [7:25] purpose I have come into the world to [7:27] bear witness to the truth. Everyone who [7:31] is of the truth listens to my voice." [7:34] Let us pray. [7:37] Father, we pray that we would listen to [7:40] your voice today. God, we thank you for [7:45] the council, for our governors, for uh [7:48] Lord, law enforcement, everything that [7:51] you have appointed under your authority. [7:53] But Lord, most of all, we thank you for [7:55] your heavenly kingdom, the perfect [7:58] kingdom, the eternal kingdom. And God, I [8:02] pray that uh as decisions are made [8:04] today, that that spiritual kingdom would [8:06] break through, Lord. that it would bring [8:08] wisdom, discernment, right justice, [8:12] Lord, and grace upon this city. Lord, [8:16] you are a good God. You hear what we ask [8:20] of you. And Lord, you want relationship [8:23] with us. Father, thank you for your [8:26] perfect King, the Lord Jesus Christ, the [8:30] promise he has to save our eternal soul [8:32] for all who believe in him. And God, I [8:34] pray that he would be present today in [8:36] this meeting. In his name we pray. Amen. [8:41] >> Thank you. [8:41] » Thank you. [8:41] >> Thank you. [8:53] America [8:55] stands nationy [9:01] for all. [9:03] Thank you. [9:09] » Did you see what that barber did to me? [9:15] » What' I do? [9:16] >> What do you think? Should I get a new [9:17] » What do you think? Should I get a new [9:17] barber? [laughter] [9:19] >> I vote yes. [9:23] Okay. [9:25] Presentations, [9:27] police. [9:39] » Good afternoon, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and [9:40] Council. Today is a fun presentation. [9:43] So, we're going to have a a brief video [9:45] that summarizes all of our [9:47] accomplishments in 2020 25. [9:50] Too many numbers there. 2025. [9:52] Uh but before we get to that, I just [9:55] wanted to first by start by thanking [9:56] this council. Um specifically the mayor. [9:59] When I was installed as city manager [10:01] about a year and a half ago, we were [10:02] challenged. You challenge this whole [10:04] team to come up with a new way of [10:07] tracking city progress and and making [10:10] sure that we were accomplishing the [10:11] goals that we needed to accomplish as a [10:13] city to make this city a better place [10:14] for all of us, all of our residents, [10:16] everybody who interacts with Lancaster. [10:19] So, we came up with the strategic goals [10:22] plan that we've been using and [10:24] monitoring. Happy to report that last [10:26] year in 2025, we scored a little over [10:29] 90%. So, of all the short-term goals we [10:32] said we were going to accomplish, we got [10:34] an A. Um, want to thank this team, it [10:37] was really this executive team, some of [10:39] the staff that are here, and the staffs [10:41] throughout the city that made that [10:42] happen. So, let's give them a round of [10:44] applause. [10:49] And we truly did accomplish some really [10:51] big things last year. City manager's [10:54] office, we implemented the leadership [10:56] academy and we started building the [10:58] staff up. We saw that at the last [11:00] meeting. Our parks department, public [11:03] art, you see it all over town now. [11:06] You're going to see more of that again [11:07] this year, but last year was amazing at [11:09] what they accomplished there. The events [11:12] top-notch once again culminated with [11:14] magical. How many people do we have [11:16] there? I think over 12 13,000 this year [11:19] again. So awesome events. Um public [11:23] works, we opened AV Alta Stadium. We had [11:26] a successful soccer season. We started [11:29] the Love Your City cleanup events and [11:31] we'll talk about that a little bit [11:32] later, but there's another one coming up [11:34] this Saturday. Community development. [11:36] They automated code enforcement. It's [11:39] now all done through AI through use of [11:42] cameras and we can issue virt you know [11:43] citations remotely just with uh camera [11:46] technology. She Patty also had to [11:49] rebuild the whole team. I think you've [11:50] got more new people on the team than [11:53] you've ever had in the new team. So hats [11:55] off to you Patty. And then um our [11:57] administrative services department. We [11:59] installed a new payroll system which [12:01] we're working through that now. And last [12:04] year we probably have more new hires [12:06] than we've had in the last 10 years. And [12:09] they were able to onboard those people, [12:10] get them up to speed. So we're really [12:12] doing a lot of things here. We're [12:14] accomplishing a lot of goals. Hats off [12:16] to the team for their hard work. And we [12:18] have a brief video uh to to show last [12:21] year. [12:38] defying the laws of gravity [12:43] passing by [12:54] 200°. [12:55] They call me [13:03] out of you. [13:07] » I'm having such a good time. I'm having [13:10] a [13:13] » w [13:33] I'm out of control [13:36] ready to reload [13:52] at the speed of [14:03] stopping. [14:07] Good time. Good time. [14:29] through [14:31] 200. [14:47] I'm having a fun [15:19] Walk this way. [15:26] This way. [15:28] Walk this way. [15:30] [music] [15:32] Walk this way. [15:35] This way. [16:18] Heat. [17:20] Thank [17:22] So, happy new year, council. Happy new [17:24] year, Lancaster. And I'll just leave you [17:25] with we're not done yet. [17:28] >> Good presentation. Don't go anywhere. [17:31] » Good presentation. Don't go anywhere. [17:31] So, what's the next step in regards to [17:33] the leadership academy? I think [17:35] everybody agreed that was a great [17:38] >> We are actually working on what will be [17:40] » We are actually working on what will be [17:40] cohort two right now. I think uh [17:42] applications are going to be released to [17:44] staff in the next week or two. And then [17:47] we are starting that program. When's the [17:49] first month of it? April. [17:51] >> Yeah, April will begin cohort two. [17:53] » Yeah, April will begin cohort two. [17:53] >> And where are we in developing one for [17:56] » And where are we in developing one for [17:56] the community? [17:57] >> Uh we're looking at doing uh like a [17:59] » Uh we're looking at doing uh like a [17:59] citizens academy for the community right [18:01] now as we speak and actually we'll talk [18:02] about that tomorrow in a meeting we have [18:04] together. [18:04] >> Okay. Great. Great. So it's worth [18:07] » Okay. Great. Great. So it's worth [18:07] pursuing. Am I correct? [18:09] >> Absolutely. [18:10] » Absolutely. [18:10] >> Okay. Good. Thank you. [18:19] We're going to adjourn or not adjourn. [18:22] What do you call it? [18:23] >> I think we were going to go ahead and to [18:25] » I think we were going to go ahead and to [18:25] go through all of the rest of the [18:27] agenda, then go to close session, then [18:29] do NB1. [18:31] >> That's right. [18:33] » That's right. [18:33] That you couldn't expect me to hold that [18:35] for more than 10 minutes. [18:37] >> That's what I'm here for. [18:38] » That's what I'm here for. [18:38] >> Okay. [18:41] » Okay. [18:41] All right. Moving on to the consent [18:43] calendar. [18:44] I have to recuse myself on CC14. So, [18:48] let's take that off. Uh me and council [18:53] member Molly and man have to recuse [18:56] ourselves on CC-15. [18:59] Uh but council member Molly is the [19:03] rule of necessity person. Is that [19:05] correct? [19:06] >> Yes. So, uh you council member man and [19:08] » Yes. So, uh you council member man and [19:08] council member Molly each have a [19:10] conflict with regard to CC-15. However, [19:13] under the rule of necessity, Raj drew, [19:16] excuse me, Council Member Molly drew the [19:18] short straw and he will participate [19:21] despite his conflict per the provisions [19:24] of the Political Reform Act. [19:26] >> Okay. So, Raj, don't screw it up. Okay. [19:31] » Uh motion to approve the consent [19:33] calendar pulling CC-14 and CC-15. [19:37] >> Hey, I was on a roll. [19:38] » Hey, I was on a roll. [19:38] >> Second that. [19:38] » Second that. [19:38] >> I know. That's why I broke in there. [19:44] a second. Let's vote. [19:50] And it passes unanimously. [19:55] So, if you two leave, we'll do CC15 [20:00] and then uh Ken can come back. We'll do [20:03] CC. Fine. [20:05] >> Are those medical? [20:10] » Yeah. So tell us tell us about the [20:11] matter glasses before we go. [20:15] >> This is Cynthia Hernandez, right? [20:17] » This is Cynthia Hernandez, right? [20:17] >> Hello. I'm Cynthia Hernandez, criminal [20:18] » Hello. I'm Cynthia Hernandez, criminal [20:18] justice commissioner. Hello friend. Nice [20:20] to see you. Um, yes, these are the meta [20:22] glasses. They're the display meta [20:23] glasses. So I'm currently recording you [20:25] all right now. You can see the little [20:27] light beeping. It also works as [20:29] translation and caption and it continues [20:32] to um teach us and as we teach it, we [20:34] can speak to it and it can tell me what [20:36] it sees and it just learns from us and [20:38] it um supports of course the AI [20:41] initiative that you've been really [20:43] advocating in our schools because I'm [20:45] also Antel Valley High School board [20:46] trustee and I know that you've urged us [20:48] as well to continue that initiative and [20:50] and we do so and it's controlled by my [20:52] hand the movements on my finger along [20:54] with this band stop the recording now [20:57] the light goes off and I could actually [20:59] even send the photo via text right now [21:01] to my ear thank you for letting me talk [21:04] about my meta glasses [laughter] [21:07] >> are they are they uncomfortable [21:09] » are they are they uncomfortable [21:09] No, I'm totally nerdy now. And when it [21:11] gets bored, I could just play music. [21:14] >> Wow. Okay. Thank you. [21:15] » Wow. Okay. Thank you. [21:15] >> Thank you. [21:21] » I need a motion to second for CC-15. [21:24] >> I move to approve CC-15. [21:26] » I move to approve CC-15. [21:26] >> I second that. [21:27] » I second that. [21:27] >> I have a motion and second. Let's vote. [21:35] » Passes with three yes votes. Raj, will [21:37] you go get Ken? [21:38] >> Yes. [21:51] » You have to stay there for one more. [21:55] >> I need a motion and a second for CC-14. [21:58] » I need a motion and a second for CC-14. [21:58] >> I'll second that motion. [22:02] » I'll second that motion. [22:02] >> I'll make the motion to approve CC 14. [22:05] » I'll make the motion to approve CC 14. [22:05] And council member man will second it. [22:08] >> And you second it [clears throat] [22:09] » And you second it [clears throat] [22:09] >> and I'll second it. I thought you made [22:10] » and I'll second it. I thought you made [22:10] the motion. [22:11] >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. [22:12] » Okay, we have a motion and a second. [22:12] Let's vote. [22:16] » And that one passes with four yes votes. [22:19] Rush. [22:29] » I thought you were [22:32] trying. [22:36] NB1. [22:38] >> We're skipping NB1. We'll come back to [22:40] » We're skipping NB1. We'll come back to [22:40] it after close session. [22:42] >> Okay. [22:50] » Okay. NB2, [22:52] any speaker cards? I want to hear the [22:55] staff report anyway. [23:12] Uh, Mayor Paris and council members uh [23:15] MB2 before you is an ordinance to repeal [23:19] sections 10.04.035 [23:23] and 10.04.040 [23:25] 040 of the municipal code uh pursuant to [23:29] requirements of uh Assembly Bill 436 [23:33] which amended provisions of the vehicle [23:35] code to delete the statutory authority [23:39] upon which uh the codes we're seeking to [23:42] we are proposing to repeal was based. Um [23:45] this made it uh the code pertained to uh [23:50] vehicular cruising and require and the [23:52] uh amendments to state law require us to [23:55] repeal uh the provisions over municipal [23:57] code to remain in compliance with state [24:00] law. So we are simply uh taking the [24:02] steps necessary to conform to what our [24:05] legislators in Sacramento have deemed [24:08] appropriate. [24:10] >> This is for the cruising. [24:11] » This is for the cruising. [24:11] >> This is cruising. You didn't get the [24:13] » This is cruising. You didn't get the [24:13] memo. [24:14] >> I didn't get the memo. Okay. [24:17] » I didn't get the memo. Okay. [24:17] >> What what I'm proposing is that we allow [24:20] » What what I'm proposing is that we allow [24:20] cruising to come back to the boulevard. [24:22] >> Okay. [24:23] » Okay. [24:23] >> Uh many of us in this Well, maybe not [24:26] » Uh many of us in this Well, maybe not [24:26] many of us, but certainly me and Fran, [24:28] we remember when they used to go [24:30] cruising on the boulevard. Uh and it was [24:34] vibrant. It was it was fun. People met [24:37] their spouses there. It it was a good [24:41] thing. And then what always happens is a [24:44] few jerks broke some windows and next [24:48] thing you know there there's no more [24:50] cruising [24:51] since we have to amend the statute [24:53] anyway or the ordinance anyway. My [24:55] thought is let's let them come back and [24:58] see how it works. Uh make it very clear [25:01] to everybody. I mean I mean the younger [25:05] people of this community ought to [25:06] recognize by now that I don't hesitate [25:08] to drop a hammer if it's necessary but [25:12] until it's necessary and hopefully it [25:14] will never be necessary. Let's see how [25:18] vibrant we can make the boulevard on, [25:21] you know, whatever night they choose. [25:24] It'll probably be organic in the way it [25:26] develops. But I want it very clear if we [25:30] have to do an emergency meeting to shut [25:33] it down, we will. I hope that doesn't [25:36] happen. I hope that this just is another [25:39] form of activity we can bring to the [25:41] young people of this city. Uh that I [25:44] think they'll appreciate, but let's give [25:46] it a shot and see. Okay. [25:48] >> Okay. [25:49] » Okay. [25:49] >> But it's up to you guys. [25:53] » But it's up to you guys. [25:53] >> I'm all for it. Ken tells me about that [25:55] » I'm all for it. Ken tells me about that [25:55] all the time. Nice [25:58] [cough] [25:58] [clears throat] [26:00] to see him there. [26:00] >> It would be interesting [26:03] » It would be interesting [26:03] because there was a distinct car culture [26:07] back when cruising was pro prominent or [26:10] prevalent. So it'd be interesting to see [26:13] what happens today because obviously the [26:16] 60s and 70s were where it really emerged [26:20] from. So it' be interesting to see [26:23] >> 1900 or 1800 [26:26] » 1900 or 1800 [26:26] I think that was 19. [26:29] You were like I think you did that quite [26:31] often because you're like what two years [26:32] behind me? [26:34] >> Something like that. That's right. You [26:35] » Something like that. That's right. You [26:35] are only two years younger. [26:38] >> But I'm still younger. That's a fact [26:39] » But I'm still younger. That's a fact [26:39] that will never go away. [26:42] >> I guess that's accurate. [26:44] » I guess that's accurate. [26:44] >> Well, maybe not. I mean, if one of us [26:48] » Well, maybe not. I mean, if one of us [26:48] dies first, I would no longer continue [26:51] to age. [26:54] But I wouldn't care that. [laughter] [26:57] >> Just Never mind. I got off in my nerd. [27:00] » Just Never mind. I got off in my nerd. [27:00] Sorry. [27:01] >> Okay, great. [27:04] » Okay, great. [27:04] >> So, do we need to approve NB2 if we're [27:06] » So, do we need to approve NB2 if we're [27:06] going to approve cruising? [27:08] >> So, this is an introduction of uh MB2 uh [27:12] » So, this is an introduction of uh MB2 uh [27:12] we need to do regardless of whether we [27:14] want to encourage cruising. that would [27:15] be more of a um uh political or [27:19] staff-based uh encouragement effort and [27:22] and program. But right now, we do need [27:25] to amend our ordinance to conform with [27:27] state law. [27:28] >> Okay. [27:28] » Okay. [27:28] >> Okay. [27:30] » Okay. [27:30] >> Motion to approve NB2. [27:32] » Motion to approve NB2. [27:32] >> I'll second that. [27:33] » I'll second that. [27:33] >> Let's vote. [27:39] » It's unanimous. [27:42] You know, as as I've been as I go into [27:46] my 19th year, it occurs to me how much [27:49] of the things we used to be able to do [27:52] that we slowly have shaved away because [27:57] of that 1% of the population, you know, [28:00] and I think maybe it's time we bring [28:03] those things back with an understanding [28:06] that as a community, we just don't [28:09] tolerate people screwing it because we [28:12] see what happens with it, you know, we [28:13] we see how quickly we lose a quality of [28:16] life that we shouldn't be losing [28:20] for what it's worth. Okay. [28:24] Uh [28:28] wow [28:31] already. That was quick. Council [28:34] reports. [28:38] » Uh we need to do public comment. [28:41] Oh, that's right. [28:42] >> We need to do public comment and then [28:43] » We need to do public comment and then [28:43] we'll do NB1. [28:45] >> Oh, public comment, then uh close [28:47] » Oh, public comment, then uh close [28:47] session, then NB1. [28:49] >> Okay. [28:55] » This is the time to address the city [28:56] council agency authority on [28:57] non-agendized matters. Speaker cards may [28:59] be found on the back table of the [29:00] council chambers. If you have completed [29:02] one, please ensure you have given it to [29:03] us to us so you may be recognized. [29:06] Individual speakers are limited to three [29:07] minutes each. Please keep in mind state [29:09] law prohibits council from acting on [29:10] items that are not on the agenda and [29:12] your matter may be referred to the city [29:14] manager. Thank you. [29:16] >> I have a question before. Why are we [29:18] » I have a question before. Why are we [29:18] skipping council reports? [29:21] >> We can do council reports before we go [29:22] » We can do council reports before we go [29:22] to close session. [29:26] » Just Well, I went to council reports. [29:29] You told me no. We got [29:31] >> Oh, my apologies. Um, [29:33] » Oh, my apologies. Um, [29:33] >> you know, we're in our 70s here. Would [29:35] » you know, we're in our 70s here. Would [29:35] you quit confusing us? [29:38] >> We can do council reports now. I I [29:40] » We can do council reports now. I I [29:40] apologize. I thought we were uh skipping [29:42] to the very end and we were not. [29:44] >> Thank you. [29:45] » Thank you. [29:45] >> I'll kick us off with council reports. [29:48] » I'll kick us off with council reports. [29:48] So, I had the opportunity along with our [29:50] city manager and a few other staff [29:52] members to attend the most recent Los [29:55] Angeles cohort graduation. Phenomenal [29:57] program. I know nobody sitting up here [29:59] is a stranger to the program. Uh it was [30:02] a joy to be a part of it, to be able to [30:04] to celebrate uh the graduation. And we [30:07] have a short video to play. [30:17] » It's fantastic. We work so hard to get [30:20] them ready and to find the employers [30:21] that want them. And we've been very [30:23] fortunate. We have great kids, great [30:25] employers, and the matches are getting [30:27] easier and easier. It's the most [30:28] satisfying work I've done in my life. [30:30] And I'm grateful every day for the [30:32] opportunity. You never know unless you [30:34] try. You never know unless you try. I [30:37] didn't know how to do a lot of things at [30:39] Dayton, but I got a job with PCC as a [30:43] level one painter and I'm ready to get [30:45] to work. [30:46] >> Don't be scared of the trades. There's a [30:49] » Don't be scared of the trades. There's a [30:49] lot a lot of money to be made in the [30:50] trades. Um, I love seeing women in the [30:53] trades. I love seeing men in the trades. [30:55] >> Trust me, coming from a person like me, [30:56] » Trust me, coming from a person like me, [30:56] I grew up I I used to get in fights, [30:59] getting expelled. I was in a lot of [31:00] situations as a kid. I always misled. I [31:01] had anger problems. Since I joined this, [31:03] it helped me control a lot of things, [31:05] help me become a better person. Join it. [31:06] Just take that step. And once you take [31:08] that step, walk through it. You going to [31:10] be great. [31:11] >> Everybody who comes here, almost [31:13] » Everybody who comes here, almost [31:13] everybody has never touched a car [31:15] besides, you know, been in it to drive [31:17] around. Nobody has done anything work [31:19] with tools. They really take it step by [31:21] step and teach you everything that you [31:23] need to know. [31:24] >> It's just like Lost Angel says, hard [31:27] » It's just like Lost Angel says, hard [31:27] work pays off. And it's just like Josh [31:29] just said, you never know until you try. [31:33] >> It can change the entire course of your [31:35] » It can change the entire course of your [31:35] life. [31:40] » You know, I' I've seen a lot of programs [31:42] and that one is has to be the top at the [31:46] very top of the the list of programs [31:49] that actually make a huge difference in [31:51] people's lives. And I just can't believe [31:54] how well it's uh administered. Every one [31:57] of those kids go to work at plant 42 if [32:00] they want to. Did you know that building [32:03] an airplane is very similar to building [32:05] a car? They just fly. [32:08] >> That uh [32:10] » That uh [32:10] pretty cool. I thought that that's [32:13] something that deserves our support [32:14] every single day. [32:18] Okay. And now it's my turn. Magical [32:20] Boulevard. [32:29] Lancaster, I am so excited to welcome [32:32] you back to my favorite city event of [32:34] every single year. It's a magical [32:37] Boulevard Lancaster event. [32:39] >> I I see great things happening. This [32:42] » I I see great things happening. This [32:42] particular event is always a wonderful [32:44] event. I mean, everybody gets engaged [32:48] and everybody becomes part of the city. [32:50] That uh that's important to me. Every [32:53] year it's all about family and kids and [32:57] of course food and everything, but look [32:59] at how many kids are here. It's so [33:00] beautiful. [33:01] >> But this year, I think the staff really [33:03] » But this year, I think the staff really [33:03] kicked it out, hit it out of the park. [33:05] Um, they added some new elements and [33:07] really made it an amazing event for our [33:08] community. [33:19] Councilman Ken Man and I along with our [33:21] family members got to start our morning [33:23] at the Lancaster Cemetery where we got [33:25] to lay wreaths with the rest of our [33:27] nation for wreaths across America and to [33:29] to top it off with lighting the [33:31] Christmas tree. It truly has just been [33:32] such a blessed day. [33:34] >> I I just wish everybody a merry [33:36] » I I just wish everybody a merry [33:36] Christmas. I hope that they are are as [33:39] fulfilled and happy as I am. [33:41] >> Well, just merry Christmas to everyone. [33:43] » Well, just merry Christmas to everyone. [33:43] Happy holidays and let's have a great [33:45] 2026. [33:47] >> Merry Christmas. [33:49] » Merry Christmas. [33:49] >> Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. [33:52] » Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. [33:52] >> You see those great kids? [33:59] » It was a great [34:03] >> Okay, Raj is next. [34:05] » Okay, Raj is next. [34:05] >> Raj. [34:06] » Raj. [34:06] >> Yes. So month of December is always like [34:09] » Yes. So month of December is always like [34:09] a lot of give gives way and food and [34:12] toys and stuff. So 7-Eleven guy he the [34:16] owner he's really generous every year he [34:19] bring like about five six hundred people [34:21] he feed them give a food away jackets [34:24] all kind of good stuff. So he does such [34:26] a good job. So we have a video about [34:29] that. [34:57] Hey, hey, hey. [35:47] Thank you, [35:51] Marvin. [35:53] I got nothing. No. [35:56] Uh, we're going to show a recap of the [35:57] AV toy grocery giveaway. Uh, before we [36:01] start it, just like to remind everybody [36:03] this is an event that schools, churches, [36:08] unions, [36:10] uh, everybody goes to. It's, uh, it's an [36:13] event that brings everybody together. We [36:16] served a little over 2,200 people. Uh, [36:19] it was a great It's put on by both [36:22] cities. Um, but it's a very, very good [36:26] event. So, play the video, please. [36:29] >> It's grown from 300 people to over [36:32] » It's grown from 300 people to over [36:32] 2,000. So, it's it's not only the bikes [36:35] make a difference, but the community [36:37] sees that this is where it's a onetop uh [36:41] place to shop. You get your toys, you [36:43] get your food, you get your turkeys, you [36:45] get everything. We not only have unions [36:48] here, we have churches here. We have [36:50] schools here. We have paraclete here. We [36:52] have the college here. We have, you [36:54] know, staff from a lot of different [36:56] places. All the elected officials are [36:58] here. This is a place where everybody [37:00] congregates. They can see everybody's [37:03] participating. They can see it. They get [37:05] the toy of their choice. Uh special kids [37:08] get the bikes, they get everything. Our [37:11] sheriffs are passing them out. The [37:14] police department is helping them with [37:16] uh traffic. It's just it's a very [37:18] organized event. And It's it's because [37:21] of the city of Lancaster, city of [37:23] Palmdale have got together and they're [37:25] really making this work. [37:27] >> You know, I when I was driving here [37:30] » You know, I when I was driving here [37:30] earlier, I asked the people in the [37:32] front, what time you did you guys get [37:34] here? And they they've been in line [37:36] since 5:30 in the morning. This food is [37:39] and this toys and everything. It's very [37:41] important for them. [37:43] >> It's a blessing. Everybody here really [37:46] » It's a blessing. Everybody here really [37:46] should be able to have a great Christmas [37:49] dinner this year. And then we got the [37:52] weather cooperating again and uh this [37:55] just turned out to be a spectacular [37:56] event. [37:57] >> I think everyone here has the same [37:58] » I think everyone here has the same [37:58] feeling that we are blessed as [38:00] individuals and as a community so that [38:02] we could share those blessings with [38:03] others. So [music] to see those needs be [38:06] there and to be able to meet them is [38:07] just an incredible feeling. If you can [38:10] and if you you will and you'll join us, [38:12] be a light. spread the joy, spread the [38:14] spirit of the holiday season. We all [38:16] made a pack at our Christmas tree [38:18] lighting ceremony um as a council here [38:21] in city of Lancaster and that's to [38:23] collaborate, to work together, [music] [38:24] to truly understand one another and just [38:27] celebrate joy. [38:30] » Where did you get that hat? [38:33] >> Oh my, [38:35] » Oh my, [38:35] >> I was festive. [38:38] » I was festive. [38:38] >> Okay, so what's the plan now? Do I do [38:40] » Okay, so what's the plan now? Do I do [38:40] the speaker cards or do we [38:42] >> Yes, we should do the speaker cards and [38:43] » Yes, we should do the speaker cards and [38:43] then we'll go to close session and then [38:45] MB1. [38:46] >> Okay, [38:49] » Okay, [38:49] Jose Alvarez. [38:53] » How are you? How are you? [38:54] >> I'm great, thank you. Um, good [38:57] » I'm great, thank you. Um, good [38:57] afternoon, city council, mayor, [39:00] Lancaster residents. Um, my name is Jose [39:03] de Alvarez. I have been a resident of [39:05] Lancaster for 24 years and um you know [39:10] always think um I was invited to this [39:12] meeting by uh mayor bishop um Henry [39:14] Hearns a long time ago but uh because of [39:17] my work I just couldn't. So here I am. [39:20] Um like everybody was saying and I think [39:24] you all know this boulevard has a lot of [39:26] potential and uh but people is afraid to [39:29] go out like my family is afraid to go [39:32] out because of the shootings and uh [39:34] what's happening you know in the city um [39:37] bringing up like drugs you know [39:39] prostitution now on the streets um [39:42] violence all over. So, um I have a bunch [39:45] of ideas on how to uh um bring uh people [39:51] like families to, you know, to have fun [39:54] on the boulevard and perhaps uh if we [39:57] can get um um investors to do something. [40:01] I have been on 42 states because of my [40:03] work. So, I've seen what people likes [40:05] and I know um building like a complex [40:08] somewhere where people is going to come [40:10] and enjoy them themselves and family. I [40:13] think is going to be something good for [40:14] the city as well as filming. I work for [40:17] the movie studio. So, um um we have a [40:20] lot of empty lots all over. Why not [40:22] building a um stages, sound stages, [40:25] something that will bring people to film [40:27] in Lancaster to keep our jobs local, you [40:30] know? Um I was um well, there's a lot of [40:35] things about um security outside. So, [40:39] I'll get to that on other meetings if I [40:41] could um to bring a safety. I own a [40:43] security company in Los Angeles, but [40:45] since I live here, so I was wondering if [40:47] maybe I can just do business with the [40:50] city or locally with, you know, people [40:52] down here. But, uh it's all about [40:54] bringing safety to the city, not just [40:56] to, you know, to just some residents. [41:01] And um you know also why wait till uh [41:06] Christmas to do something nice on the [41:09] boulevard or maybe just those events [41:10] that we have once a year. Uh you know [41:13] wait not like do something with like [41:17] every month once a month something that [41:20] will bring people to Lancaster. I have [41:22] some of those ideas. So, um hopefully I [41:25] can make a um a meeting with the [41:30] council, the mayor, somebody that can [41:32] hear my ideas and maybe we can take it [41:33] from there. Um thank you for listening [41:36] to me and have a nice day. [41:37] >> Thank you. [41:41] » Where's [41:43] ah there you are. you know, he raises [41:45] good points, but I I realize there's [41:47] really not a vehicle for people in the [41:50] community to come and and present their [41:53] ideas and have, you know, meaningful [41:56] discussions about it. I don't know how [41:58] to fix that or how to do that, but I [42:01] know somebody who does. [42:03] Uh, so let's put that on the to-do list. [42:07] Okay, [42:08] >> we definitely will. And if I could [42:09] » we definitely will. And if I could [42:09] mention, we have our parks master plan [42:11] that's underway. So we have a survey [42:13] that's going to be going out in the next [42:14] few weeks. And we also have a community [42:15] engagement. So that's a perfect [42:17] opportunity for the community to to [42:19] provide us the input of things they [42:20] would like to see not only on the [42:21] boulevard but in their parks and [42:22] facilities and programs throughout the [42:24] city. So that is a mechanism that will [42:26] is in place and we'll be rolling out in [42:28] the next couple weeks. [42:29] >> We'll explore other alternatives as [42:31] » We'll explore other alternatives as [42:31] well. [42:32] >> Thank you. Thank you for talking to us [42:35] » Thank you. Thank you for talking to us [42:35] about that. [42:38] Um, [42:40] Fran, [42:42] how have you been? [42:53] » So, what do you think about cruising the [42:56] boulevard on Friday night? [42:58] >> I think it's great. I think there's been [43:01] » I think it's great. I think there's been [43:01] a lot of progress here since the years [43:03] that I've been living here. Uh [43:06] and I also wanted to bring about you [43:10] know they're speaking about the area [43:12] plan here for Lancaster but I'm also on [43:15] the committee for the area plan for the [43:17] LA county for all the county for the [43:19] next uh from the 25th to the 28th. We're [43:23] going to uh and I'm representing [43:26] Lancaster. I represent you everywhere I [43:28] go. Everywhere I go. And uh and that's [43:33] my main purpose. I feel in my life right [43:36] now. God has given me a lot of graces [43:39] and I'm so happy to be able to do this [43:41] for all of you because uh it's I know it [43:45] and people say, "Oh, well, how about [43:46] you, friend? Do you get anything out of [43:48] it?" I says, "Yeah, I do, but that's not [43:50] for me only. I'm doing it for everybody [43:52] and especially the seniors and the [43:54] disabled and the people that can't get [43:56] around and people that just don't know [43:59] how to communicate or can't, you know, [44:01] because it's a big it's a big city and a [44:04] lot of different people. But I just [44:07] wanted to wish everybody a beautiful and [44:11] pleasant and happy and blessed new year. [44:15] I wanted to bring up the oh the area [44:17] plan. By the way, if I may, we are going [44:19] to have a meeting [44:22] uh the county is going to be coming to [44:23] the Lancaster Senior Center uh on the [44:27] 15th, which is two days from 1:30 to 3. [44:30] We are going to be telling [44:34] the public what the area plan is and how [44:36] they can get involved. And this is a [44:39] time where the individuals that live in [44:41] Lancaster or anywhere else, they can [44:44] give their input no matter if it's good, [44:46] bad, or indifferent. [44:48] So that we as the county, as the [44:52] the legislative end of the of the [44:54] spectrum, you might say, have an idea of [44:57] what you want because if you don't tell [45:00] us, we we don't know what you want, we [45:01] can't do anything about it. We try and I [45:04] I mean I say we like if I'm a big contro [45:08] here, but I'm I'm just a little pee on [45:10] the bottom of the P. But anyway, thank [45:13] you very much. God bless you all and [45:17] hallelujah. [45:21] » Thank you, friend. [45:23] Okay. [45:32] So, we should we go ahead and finish [45:33] everything but new business item one? [45:37] >> Yes, please. [45:39] » Yes, please. [45:39] >> All right. City manager, you're on. [45:44] » All right. City manager, you're on. [45:44] >> Yes. I have a few updates. So, this [45:47] » Yes. I have a few updates. So, this [45:47] weekend is going to be a busy weekend. [45:50] I'd like to invite everybody to come out [45:51] on Sunday, January 18th over at the [45:54] ELPAC from 400 pm to 8:00 PM. It's our [45:57] Justice Sunday performance. So that is [45:59] the annual performance that is done uh [46:02] by local high school students to [46:04] celebrate Martin Luther King Day. If you [46:06] have not had the opportunity to come, [46:08] it's a wonderful event. Um I know I mark [46:10] my calendar every year and I look [46:12] forward to it and I will be there again [46:13] on Sunday. Um the day before that on [46:17] Saturday, we are doing our MLK Day of [46:21] Service. So, this is another one of our [46:23] Love Your City Cleanup events. It'll be [46:26] at Desert Vineyard Church at 8:00 a.m. [46:29] Um if you haven't signed up to [46:30] volunteer, please do so now. Uh I I I'll [46:34] summarize a few of the stats from the [46:36] first two cleanup events. We had about a [46:40] thousand volunteers and staff come out [46:42] between the two events. We've cleaned up [46:45] close to 90 tons of waste. We've hit [46:48] about 15 different locations to clean up [46:51] graffiti. And we've impacted over a [46:54] thousand residences that we've gone and [46:56] picked up trash and helped clean the [46:58] yard up and and in the different [47:00] neighborhoods that we've hit. This [47:02] Saturday, [47:04] we plan to do another 870 residents. [47:08] We're going to do some block wall [47:10] painting. We're painting a community [47:12] mural. We're going out and cleaning up a [47:14] couple of fields. We're going to go [47:16] engage some of the homeless encampments [47:17] and see if we can get them the services [47:19] they need. So, it's going to be a big [47:21] event. I think we're anticipating over a [47:23] thousand volunteers. So, and we'd love [47:25] to have more. So, if you haven't signed [47:27] up, please come sign up for that event. [47:32] » Thank you. I'm curious, why are there [47:36] homeless encampments? [47:38] I thought we were knocking them down as [47:41] soon as they went up. [47:45] » We're definitely addressing them, sir, [47:47] but uh it def it does take a while to [47:49] get individuals placed and and get them [47:52] to accept the services we need to get [47:54] them off the streets. So, it's a [47:56] continuous uh battle, but uh we are [47:59] making advances. I can tell you that. [48:01] >> All right. Thank you. [48:07] What else we have? [48:11] » I believe that is it other than uh close [48:14] session and NB1. So at this time [48:18] >> before we do that, so are the drones [48:21] » before we do that, so are the drones [48:22] launching now? [48:24] >> Yes, sir. Uh we have our three uh DFR [48:27] » Yes, sir. Uh we have our three uh DFR [48:27] drones as first responders uh up. [48:29] They've deployed different incidents [48:31] including some uh incidents uh involving [48:34] the sheriff's department and we're still [48:36] working with the sheriff's department to [48:38] get a a good understanding on uh [48:40] complete use of that system. [48:43] >> Are they launching when they hear a [48:44] » Are they launching when they hear a [48:44] gunshot? [48:45] >> Uh they're they're not deploying as of [48:48] » Uh they're they're not deploying as of [48:48] yet when they hear a gunshot. Uh we [48:50] still have a few more personnel we need [48:52] to hire uh which are pilots, but we're [48:55] we're working towards that now. So, you [48:58] need pilots on them? [48:59] >> Yes, sir. You need you do need pilots [49:01] » Yes, sir. You need you do need pilots [49:01] once they're up overhead and there's [49:02] still laws that require you to monitor [49:04] to have a human monitoring. Uh, they [49:07] deploy to the location. They can do that [49:09] automatically, but then a pilot has to [49:11] take over. [49:12] >> Okay. [49:13] » Okay. [49:13] >> Yes, sir. [49:13] » Yes, sir. [49:13] >> The other thing I wanted to ask you, do [49:15] » The other thing I wanted to ask you, do [49:15] we know if there's any offtheshelf AI uh [49:18] agents that could do homeless counts [49:21] using our drones? [49:23] >> Uh, you know what? Let me get with the [49:25] » Uh, you know what? Let me get with the [49:25] assistant chief and do some research on [49:27] that. Get back to you. Uh it's an [49:29] interesting thought, so we'll take a [49:30] look at it. [49:30] >> I mean, if we could have up to date, you [49:32] » I mean, if we could have up to date, you [49:32] know, to the day what our homeless [49:34] counts are within reasonable margins, [49:38] >> uh it may be beneficial. [49:40] » uh it may be beneficial. [49:40] >> Yes, sir. Continuous count. Yeah. [49:42] » Yes, sir. Continuous count. Yeah. [49:42] >> Right. [49:42] » Right. [49:42] >> Absolutely. You got it. We'll look into [49:44] » Absolutely. You got it. We'll look into [49:44] it, sir. [49:45] >> All right. Thank you. [49:47] » All right. Thank you. [49:48] Okay. Now, [49:50] Allison [49:54] At this time, the city council will [49:56] adjourn to close session to discuss [49:58] close session agenda items 1 through 22 [50:01] is stated on the agenda. And for the [50:04] public's knowledge, upon returning from [50:06] close session, we'll take up agenda item [50:08] NB1. [50:11] Thank you. [1:38:35] We're back in session. City attorney. [1:38:38] >> In close session, the city council took [1:38:41] » In close session, the city council took [1:38:41] up agenda items close session one one [1:38:45] case and two two cases and gave [1:38:48] direction to staff and legal counsel. No [1:38:51] reportable action. [1:38:54] >> Thank you. Moving back to NB one. [1:38:58] » Thank you. Moving back to NB one. [1:38:58] >> Yes. Give me just a second. [1:38:59] » Yes. Give me just a second. [1:38:59] >> Are you doing the presentation on that? [1:39:01] » Are you doing the presentation on that? [1:39:01] >> I am. Give me a moment. There we go. [1:39:13] Mayor Paris and council members. Uh [1:39:16] before you for consideration today uh is [1:39:20] MB1 a resolution submitting a measure to [1:39:22] the voters to amend section 2011 of the [1:39:25] Lancaster city charter. Uh as proposed, [1:39:29] the resolution would place on the ballot [1:39:31] for the April 14th, 2026 election uh a [1:39:35] revision to section 2011 of the charter [1:39:37] to authorize the city council to enact [1:39:40] an ordinance to one increase the number [1:39:42] of council members from four to five and [1:39:46] add the office of vice mayor and [1:39:49] transition from at large to [1:39:50] district-based elections for the five [1:39:53] council members, which would result in a [1:39:55] council of five council members. members [1:39:57] plus a mayor and a vice mayor. Uh the uh [1:40:02] reasoning is uh in consideration of the [1:40:04] requirements of the California Voting [1:40:06] Rights Act um and has been discussed at [1:40:09] two public meetings uh held uh in recent [1:40:13] months and I'm here to answer any [1:40:16] questions that you may have. [1:40:20] >> So a vote yes means we want to put it on [1:40:24] » So a vote yes means we want to put it on [1:40:24] the ballot. [1:40:25] >> Correct. A vote no [1:40:27] » Correct. A vote no [1:40:27] >> means you do not want to put it on the [1:40:28] » means you do not want to put it on the [1:40:28] ballot [1:40:32] and the text of the revisions is in uh [1:40:36] contained within the attachment to the [1:40:39] resolution for your information. [1:40:44] » Thank you. [1:40:44] >> Thank you. [1:40:46] » Thank you. [1:40:46] >> Any discussion? [1:40:49] » Any discussion? [1:40:49] >> We good? Let's vote. [1:40:52] » We good? Let's vote. [1:40:52] >> Oh, we did have one. [1:40:54] » Oh, we did have one. [1:40:54] public comment. [1:40:56] >> We have one person submitted a a card [1:40:59] » We have one person submitted a a card [1:40:59] for NB1, [1:41:05] » David Paul. [1:41:26] Mr. Mayor and Vice Mayor and Councel, [1:41:29] good evening. I'm glad to be here. [1:41:32] You know, just listening to the reading [1:41:35] again. And the thing that [1:41:38] is good about this, I guess, is that [1:41:39] it'll go to the voters. So, unless it [1:41:42] doesn't get on the agenda uh ballot, [1:41:45] then it won't. But [1:41:48] I have been going back and forth and in [1:41:51] the new reading just now it seemed like [1:41:55] we're going to have five council [1:41:56] members, a vice mayor and a mayor and I [1:41:59] thought we were adding one council [1:42:04] person and a vice mayor. [1:42:07] So that that's where I'm confused [1:42:09] because you know with the [1:42:13] um manager council system [1:42:16] you guys are really [1:42:19] just one of five votes. [1:42:22] So are you saying that we'll put a mayor [1:42:26] slot in there or what? because [1:42:31] that that's what I don't understand and [1:42:33] I I I guess it'll unfold over time and [1:42:36] the fact that it goes [1:42:38] to an election or part of the election [1:42:42] >> can I mean yeah [1:42:44] » can I mean yeah [1:42:44] >> yeah I'm fine go ahead sir [1:42:48] » yeah I'm fine go ahead sir [1:42:48] the charter stays pretty much the same [1:42:52] as it is now it's there'll be seven [1:42:56] people sitting up here instead of [1:42:59] the vice mayor will not be appointed by [1:43:01] the mayor but will rather be uh voted [1:43:04] for at large by the people. Um that's [1:43:08] really basically the only difference, [1:43:10] right? Council members will be at five. [1:43:14] There'll be five council members plus a [1:43:17] vice mayor plus a mayor. [1:43:21] The mayor and the vice mayor will be at [1:43:24] large. So they'll be elected by the [1:43:27] entire city whether the councils will be [1:43:30] elected by their district and their [1:43:32] district only. [1:43:34] >> No. [1:43:35] » No. [1:43:35] >> Okay. Well, well, thank you. But the [1:43:37] » Okay. Well, well, thank you. But the [1:43:37] thing I'm really trying to just get to [1:43:39] the bottom of is how does the fact that [1:43:42] we start as a manager council soft mayor [1:43:46] system work with this new arrangement? [1:43:50] >> Same. [1:43:51] » Same. [1:43:51] >> Nothing changes other than the number of [1:43:53] » Nothing changes other than the number of [1:43:53] people voting. [1:43:55] Okay. Well, [1:43:58] let it work and I appreciate your time [1:44:00] and I believe a little bit confused, but [1:44:02] I'm sure I'll understand in time. Thank [1:44:05] you for your time. [1:44:07] >> All right. Is that all the speakers? [1:44:11] » All right. Is that all the speakers? [1:44:11] You know, I was one of the lead [1:44:12] attorneys on the Palmdale case which [1:44:14] brought this uh horror show to the state [1:44:18] and we've now had 10 years to look at [1:44:22] it, see what happens. Tell me one city [1:44:25] that went to district to doing better. [1:44:28] Tell me one school district that's doing [1:44:30] better. Tell me one of anything that is [1:44:34] doing better because they went to [1:44:35] districts. [1:44:38] My experience has been it was probably [1:44:40] this the worst thing I ever did. And [1:44:42] let's face it, sometimes I've done some [1:44:45] things I shouldn't be proud of, but this [1:44:48] one I am absolutely not proud of. And [1:44:50] you have we have school districts in our [1:44:53] own community that can't get people to [1:44:55] run at all. Not at all. So what do you [1:44:59] think that does to the quality of the [1:45:01] people who do run, you know, or who who [1:45:04] do sign up for the seat? The it is it is [1:45:10] I would just hate to see it come to [1:45:12] Lancaster. We have seen what it does to [1:45:15] other cities. [1:45:17] And you know, when I took on the [1:45:19] Palmdale case, I I thought their [1:45:22] leadership left something to be desired. [1:45:25] But now they they're leaderless because [1:45:27] they have to rotate the mayor. You know, [1:45:30] they're leaderless. You you come in with [1:45:32] a very short period of time to serve. [1:45:35] Nobody listens to you. The city is now [1:45:38] run by the city manager. It uh and [1:45:41] that's what happens. I uh [1:45:45] you know, we put [1:45:47] All of us have put a major portion of [1:45:50] our life into this city. [1:45:53] I don't want to see it fall apart [1:45:56] because of of something like this. I [1:45:58] think we fight. We fight. We fight. We [1:46:01] fight because we are right. We know [1:46:04] we're right. The whole world knows we're [1:46:07] right because the evidence is [1:46:08] irrefutable. [1:46:11] Well, I'm going to vote no. But, you [1:46:14] know, let's vote. Oh, we got a mo. Need [1:46:16] a motion. [1:46:19] >> Okay. How do we make a motion? [1:46:23] » Okay. How do we make a motion? [1:46:23] >> One of you can choose to move to approve [1:46:25] » One of you can choose to move to approve [1:46:25] or one or move to disapprove uh the [1:46:29] recommended action which is to approve [1:46:31] resolution 26-04. [1:46:33] >> I'll move to disapprove the resolution [1:46:37] » I'll move to disapprove the resolution [1:46:37] NB1. [1:46:38] >> I'll second. [1:46:40] » I'll second. [1:46:40] >> Okay. So that means a yes vote would not [1:46:44] » Okay. So that means a yes vote would not [1:46:44] place this on the ballot because the [1:46:46] motion is to disapprove. [1:46:48] >> Yeah, we are voting. If you vote yes, [1:46:50] » Yeah, we are voting. If you vote yes, [1:46:50] it's to put it in the round file. If you [1:46:53] vote no, it to let's run with it. [1:46:56] >> What? No. If you vote no, then we if we [1:46:59] » What? No. If you vote no, then we if we [1:46:59] want to approve the resolution, we'd [1:47:00] need a new vote because we will have [1:47:02] never voted to approve the resolution. [1:47:04] >> Okay. Right now we're there's been a [1:47:07] » Okay. Right now we're there's been a [1:47:07] motion and my second. I think it's the [1:47:09] first time I've ever seconded the motion [1:47:11] in 20 years, which would give you some [1:47:13] indication of how detrimental I think. [1:47:18] >> What? [1:47:18] » What? [1:47:18] >> Your penance. [1:47:19] » Your penance. [1:47:19] >> Allison, just to clarify, yes means [1:47:21] » Allison, just to clarify, yes means [1:47:22] file. [1:47:22] >> Yeah. [1:47:23] » Yeah. [1:47:23] >> No means [1:47:24] » No means [1:47:24] >> what? [1:47:25] » what? [1:47:25] >> Take no action. [1:47:26] » Take no action. [1:47:26] >> A the motion is to disapprove the [1:47:29] » A the motion is to disapprove the [1:47:29] resolution. [1:47:30] >> That's correct. So, if you vote yes, you [1:47:33] » That's correct. So, if you vote yes, you [1:47:33] are disapproving the resolution and you [1:47:36] are not [1:47:38] uh seeking to place it on the ballot. If [1:47:41] you vote no, then we would potentially [1:47:46] have another motion later, but we're not [1:47:47] there yet. [1:47:49] >> Okay. [1:47:49] » Okay. [1:47:49] >> So, yes means no. [1:47:50] » So, yes means no. [1:47:50] >> Yes means no. [1:47:51] » Yes means no. [1:47:51] >> No means yes. [1:47:53] » No means yes. [1:47:53] >> Only in this context. Yes. [1:47:56] » Only in this context. Yes. [1:47:56] >> With regards to NB1. [laughter] [1:48:05] I'm ready to vote. I don't know about [1:48:06] you. [1:48:07] >> I already voted. [1:48:14] » Okay. So, the motion to disapprove the [1:48:18] resolution has passed unanimously, which [1:48:22] means the item will not appear on the [1:48:25] ballot. [1:48:28] Well, that was fun, guys. Uh, so that's [1:48:34] it. [1:48:36] >> Yes, we have now completed the agenda. [1:48:42] » It would be appropriate to adjourn. [1:48:44] >> Okay. [1:48:46] » Okay. [1:48:46] The next meeting is scheduled for [1:48:47] Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 1:30 p.m. [1:48:52] This meeting is adjourned. And Carol, [1:48:55] I'm coming home.