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Hey Chief, good to see you.

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Anything else?

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Ladies and gentleman.

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We ain't lost in the entire tournament

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that's всегда in the overall too.

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Cause everybody is under the way of the center in the field.

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That might not be enough.

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That sixth-rate ensures my fuzzy business.

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Hey.

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But how are you...?

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Hey, personnes corresponding all the way of changing or

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Norgive, Depart.

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Alumni

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issues, goodoso Haven, you know.

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But it wouldn't have been as good,

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but it wouldn't have worked out of the bottom there.

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And I have to see that situation, how much pressure and load it up, see, you've got to do it a little bit more.

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So you've got to do it a little bit more.

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So there's the wall laying for me.

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We'll be better than the tap.

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If you've got a lot of wall, there's just a few points in the break.

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There's quarter inches of metal.

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It could work.

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I was just curious.

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I was just curious.

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I've got some new ones for the church.

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I was going to put him up and somebody said, they're a bonnet from Mars, Paul's Valley, you know, Edward's canvas up there.

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What are they doing?

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Where are we talking about?

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Onnings?

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Onnings?

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Outside?

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Over the door?

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Outside?

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They're a little narrow, wouldn't you mean?

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Yeah.

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They're like 14 inches?

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About 16 inches?

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No.

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14 inches?

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14 inches wide?

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14 inches wide?

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About.

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About.

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I'm just curious if you thought those would be more than play, you'll have a harder time than one like a win.

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Okay, it's time to get started. I'm going to call the special meeting of the City Transit Trust to order. Please call the roll.

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Hankins, Harris, Chapman, Gil, Hampton, Weager, Johnson, Warren.

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Yeah, we do have a quorum. Business item number one, consider authorizing the chairman of the Transit Trust to sign certifications pertaining to the public transit state.

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revolving fund, who's speaking on this? Ryan?

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Yeah better. Okay. So yes, these certifications are actually part of our state walling fund

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that we are required to do every single year. Once we have these signed documents,

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we submit and then we get state money that we can use for grants and everything else.

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Questions or motions?

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Mr. Gil made some motion.

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Second, by Chapman, Discussion or debate, please vote.

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Motion carries seven to zero.

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Item number two, in accordance with the Trunorth Culture Statement,

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provide to provide a safer community for the citizens.

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Consider approving an agreement between law and public schools

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and the city transit trust operating lights to provide transit service to all students and staff

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and authorize the chairman of Civic Clerk to execute the agreement, Ryan.

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So this is our annual agreement with Lawton Public Schools to provide transportation for all LPS students staff throughout the year.

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And it's the same amount of money that they provide.

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So it's $70,000.

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They provide to lats to have the service.

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We have questions or motions.

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May I move the we vote to approve this between Lawton Public Schools and the City Transit Trust?

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And do we have a second?

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And we have a second.

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Discussion or debate?

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Please vote.

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Motion carries seven to zero.

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Item three.

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Consider approving the scope and fee and authorize

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Windale WD architecture to begin work

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on the professional engineering and architectural design

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of the multimodal transfer center with

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the operations and maintenance facility.

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Charlotte.

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Good afternoon.

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This is to approve the scope and services with Windle to begin.

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So they can begin the environmental studies and as well as the design group.

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They will also be in town the week of the next council meeting for three days for an immersion is what they call it.

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And so we've actually asked them to come in and so they will do a quick presentation to council

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to the trust and then we're also going to have the subcommittee meet with them so that they can kind of get an idea and they said

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we actually should have maybe a couple of sketches at that time that they can show us kind of what they're thinking for us to look at.

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All right, do we have questions or motion?

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I move that we approve this.

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We have a second.

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We have a motion in a second.

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Discussion on debate.

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Please vote.

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Thank you, guys.

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I need one more.

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Motion carries seven to zero.

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We have a motion for adjournment.

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I'll make a motion.

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Motion has second.

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Please call the roll.

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Harris.

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Chapman.

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Gil.

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Hampton.

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Weager.

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Johnson.

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Hankens.

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Well, we're ready, Mayor. Okay. And just to memo, normally we do the water authority before

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the council meeting, but because of the executive session, we'll be doing it at the end.

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So now we will start the city council meeting. So I'll call the regular schedule may the

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lot in city council order. Please stand for the invocation by minister Duane Hall of

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the word out and corporate it and remains standing for the pledge of allegiance.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Pursons of the Prayer of Solomon when dedicating the temple in Jerusalem from

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First King's chapter 8 adapted as an invocation for the City of Lawton's Mayor

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and Council meeting about two minutes and 45 seconds.

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Blessed be the Lord God Almighty who is and who was and who is to come.

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You know the covenants that you that have been made with you,

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Lord God Almighty, there is no God in heaven above on earth below, like you, who keep your covenant

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and mercy with your servants who walk before you with all their hearts. You've kept what you promised,

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you've both spoken with your mouth and fulfilled it with your hand as it is this day. Therefore,

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Lord God Almighty, now keep what you promised your servants if they take heed to their way to walk

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before you, as you like the way with your living word,

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let your word come true and be a light for our path.

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Regardless of prayers and supplications of your servants,

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so Lord God Almighty, and listen to the cry and the prayer,

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which your servant is praying before you today,

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that your eyes may be open towards the city of Latin,

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that you may make your name here,

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that you may hear the prayer, which your servant makes for this place,

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and you hear the supplication of your servant,

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and of this council when they pray for this place.

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Here in heaven and act and judge your servants,

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condemning the wicked, bringing his way on his head,

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and justifying the righteous by giving him,

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according to his righteousness,

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when your people, because they have sinned against you,

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turn back to you and confess your name,

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and pray and make supplication to you in this place,

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then hear in heaven and forgive the sin of your people

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and Lawton Fort Syll and heal the land which you gave to our fathers.

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When the heavens are shut up and there is no rain because they've sinned against you, when

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they pray and confess your name and turn from their sin because you afflict them, then here

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in heaven and forgive the sin of your servants, your people of Lawton Fort Syll, that you might

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teach us the good way in which we should walk and sinned rain on your land which you have given

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to your people as an inheritance.

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Thank you, Father, for the refreshing rain

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and cooling winds of these past days.

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Now, Father, I pray in the all-powerful name of Jesus Christ,

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that you transform, lot in Fort Syll,

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by the resurrection power of the Holy Spirit,

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that we may be known as an international city of hope,

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a place where your name dwells.

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But all God's people who are in agreement say a man

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, thank you, pastor.

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And please call the wrong.

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Chapman, Gil, Hampton, Weeger, Johnson, Warren, Hankens, Harris.

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Okay, and now we have presentation of the North Star award, the true North Star, John.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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Today I'm going to be presenting the North Star award and the North Star is the first time

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we presented this award, and it goes to a staff member that best personifies our true

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North statement, and this individual that we're recognizing today I can't think of a better

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award recipient for the very first true, true North awardee is an individual that's been

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here a long time. They routinely provide world-class customer service. He does a lot of

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things that nobody will ever know about and that's a good thing because he makes sure that

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we have healthy drinking water and that our sanitation systems work and our wastewater

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water treatment facilities, our firing, and all cylinders.

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So it's good that we don't know what this guy does

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because he's that vital to our community

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and making sure that we have a safe and healthy place to live.

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So I'd like for Rusty Wizzin Hunt to come on up here.

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Here's the second.

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Rusty is her director of public utilities

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33 years. And Rusty was recently selected for a national wastewater digest industry icon award, in which

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she was selected and will appear on the cover of a magazine. And we're very proud of him and we're

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she was selected and will appear on the cover of a magazine. And we're very proud of him. And we're

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very proud of all. He does for the city and the wonderful support and service he provides our

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very proud of all. He does for the city and the wonderful support and service he provides our citizen.

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and so without further ado, Rusty, let me give you this coin, this certificates. I don't have

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And so without further ado, Rusty, let me give you this coin, this certificates, I don't have

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$500 on me, but I'm good for it.

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$500 on me, but I'm good for it.

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All right, I love it. I love it. Okay, now we've got something

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All right, I love it.

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I love it.

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Okay, now we've got something that's going to be real fun.

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that's going to be real fun. The Hispanic Heritage Month Proclamation. If I can get all of those

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The Hispanic Heritage Month Proclamation.

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If I can get all of those involved down to the front, we'll do the Proclamation.

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involved down to the front, we'll do the Proclamation. Then I think they have a little five-minute

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Then I think they have a little five-minute presentation for us.

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presentation for us. So please join me at the front.

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So, please join me at the front.

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Thank you. We're ready to

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continue.

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And we're here, Galine. We're standing up all week in Eritage. This is

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this was the plan. Amen. And we're here to plan out of answer. A group that

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Mr. Jose's our brother Sal, Jose Sal's, I put together. Amen. For worship

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God, Amen and also celebrating our heritage. Now this next rhythm is called the Bamba. Yes. Amen. Glory, I'll say it.

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it's Bonda.

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Amen.

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Glory Alseja.

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I am the one who will do it.

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When the crowd will be there, I will be there.

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I will be there.

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I will be there.

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I

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will be there.

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Glory to the Lord.

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Hallelujah.

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Thank you.

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a previous claim for

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Amen.

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Saint-Tolzeño,

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Gloria de O'Sale Lujad.

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you misericordias mas grande que los cielos.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Years, most grande que los cielos.

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Tu misericorias más grande que la tierra.

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Your misericordias mas grande que la tierra,

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Tú misericordias más grande que el sol.

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Your misericordias mas grande que el sol,

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La luna las estrellas.

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de alguna las estrellas,

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Tu misericordias, Señor.

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Your misericordias, señor.

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Tú misericordias, Señor.

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Tú misericordias, Señor.

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Tú misericordias, Señor.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much.

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I'll write, I think we set a new level of expectations here.

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set a new level of expectations here.

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And, of course, this is all a part of the Lawton Race Relations Commission.

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And, of course, this is all a part of the Lawton Race Relations Commission.

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We're excited this month to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month.

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We're excited this month to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month.

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And that was a good cue up for our proclamation,

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And that was a good cue up for our proclamation,

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whereas each year Americans observe national Hispanic Heritage Month

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whereas each year Americans observed National Hispanic Heritage Month

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from September 15 to October 15.

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from September 15th, October 15th by celebrating the histories,

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By celebrating the histories, cultures, and contributions

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cultures and contributions of American citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico,

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of American citizens, whose ancestors came from Spain,

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Mexico, the Caribbean, Central, and South America.

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the Caribbean, Central, and South America. Whereas the observations started 1968,

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Whereas the observations started in 1968,

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as Hispanic Heritage Week and to President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded by President Ronald Reagan in 1988 to cover a 30-day period starting on September 15, and ending on October 15.

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as Hispanic heritage week under President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded by President Ronald Reagan

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in 1988 to cover a 30-day period starting on September 15, and ending on October 15.

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It was enacted into law in August 17, 1988 at on the approval of public law 100 dash 402.

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It was enacted into law on August 17, 1988, on the approval of Public Law 100-402.

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And whereas during Hispanic Heritage Month, we take the opportunity to honor all Americans

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And whereas during Hispanic Heritage Month, we take the opportunity to honor all Americans

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of Hispanic descent and to acknowledge their path and ongoing contributions to the success and

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of Hispanic descent and to acknowledge their path and ongoing contributions to the success

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and growth of our nation.

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growth of our nation.

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Hispanic Americans are the largest minority group in the United States today, and generations

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Hispanic Americans are the largest minority group in the United States today.

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In generations of Hispanic Americans have consistently helped make our country strong and prosperous.

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of Hispanic Americans have consistently helped make our country strong and prosperous.

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whereas this year's theme Latinos, driving prosperity, power, and progress in America.

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Whereas this year's theme Latinos driving prosperity, power, and progress in America.

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highlights the significant impact of Hispanics to America's economic, political, and social

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Highlights the significant impact of Hispanics to America's economic, political, and social

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advancements. Whereas Hispanic Heritage Month has celebrated many ways with events such

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advancements.

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Whereas Hispanic Heritage Month has celebrated many ways with the events such as Parades,

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as parades, art exhibitions, concerts, and traditional Hispanic food fairs.

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Art exhibitions, concerts, and traditional Hispanic food fairs.

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I do thereby declare September 15, October 15, Hispanic Heritage Month and make note

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I do thereby

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that the International Festival, opening ceremony is will entertain the guest of the

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that the International Festival, opening ceremonies will entertain the guest of the

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Consulate of Mexico, to Oklahoma City, and there will be a reception after that opening ceremony.

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And I encourage all residents of Latin for itself to celebrate this unique culture

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all residents of Latin for itself to celebrate this unique culture and all the cultures that

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and all the cultures that we have here in Latin for itself.

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we have here in Latin for itself. Let's give these folks a round of applause.

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Let's give these folks a round of applause.

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Would

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you like to say something?

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Would you like

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to say something? Yes, we have Honorable Mayor of Benny Janos myself and the race relations committee.

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Yes, we have Honorable Mayor of Beni Janos, myself and the Race Relations Committee.

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We accept this proclamation for the heritage of Latino month and we thank you.

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We accept this proclamation for the heritage of Latino Month and we thank you.

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And wait, another round of applause for our young people that are in Bob, we'd love to see our young people involved in our heritage.

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I mean, another round of applause for our young people that are involved.

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We love to see our young people involved in our heritage.

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Thank you all for coming.

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Thank you all for coming.

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Thank you. Thank you, sir. Oh, I got it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Oh, I got another question.

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Okay, while they're getting their instruments, we'll

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Okay.

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While they're getting their instruments, we'll go ahead and do the reports by the Mayor and City Council.

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go ahead and do the reports by the mayor and say the council will start with Ward 1.

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We'll start with Ward 1.

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Just remind everybody to vote today.

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Just remind everybody to vote today. Thank you. Everything's going good, but we do need that vote.

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Thank you, everything's going good, but we do need that vote, so be sure and if you want

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So be sure and if you want to get involved in the right, we have one person for sure that

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to get involved in the, all right, we have one person for sure that there must be in my

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It must be in my word.

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word.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Thank you.

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More, too.

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More, too.

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How do I get on the drum team?

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How do I get on the drum team?

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I want to be on the drum team.

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I want to be on the drum team.

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Can we have that every meeting because I can play the drums?

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Can we have that every meeting?

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I can play the drums.

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You know, at least until October 15th we can't really say I marched on my own drummers, so I'm thinking I should be on the drum team.

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You know, at least until October 15th we can.

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Well, you always say I marched on my own drummers.

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So I'm thinking I should be on the drum team.

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Well, I would have to agree with that.

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Well, I would have to agree with that.

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So I want to give a shout out to the Lawton Police Force.

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So I want to give a shout out to the lot in police force.

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There are cops and kids picnic.

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There are cops and kids picnic.

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It was a Saturday with thousands of people came out and lots of young people.

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It was a Saturday with thousands of people came out.

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There were lots of young people.

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I want to give it a shout out also to Walmart Academy at Woods and Dick Sporting Goods who donated over 50 fishing rods to young kids.

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I want to give it a shout out also to Walmart Academy at Woods.

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And Dick Sporting Goods who donated over 50 fishing rods to young kids.

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We restocked Lake Helen for that as well, had a little fishing derby and a young man named Dan

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We restocked Lake Helen for that as well, had little fishing derby, and a young man named Dan Kite also donated another 25 of his personal rods.

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Kite also donated another 25 of his personal rods and came and helped us equip those for all the youth that came to learn how to fish or participate in

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And it came and helped us equip those for all the youth that came to learn how to fish or

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participate in fishing and it's my understanding of how today we already have 200 fish

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Fishing and it's my understanding. I heard today we already have 200 fish and rods donated by Zepko for next year's

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and I was donated by Zepko for next year's event.

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event. So we're thrilled about that. It was an outstanding event. Again, a shoutout

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So we're thrilled about that, it was an outstanding event again shout out chief to a wonderful

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chief to a wonderful job that your man did there. Lots of free food, watermelon, bicycles.

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job that your man did there, lots of free food, watermelon, bicycles, it was amazing.

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It was amazing. So our police forces don't have great job of reaching out the community

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So our police forces don't have a great job of reaching out the community and building relationships and we think that's important and certainly falls in line with our true north segment

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and building relationships. And we think that's important. Certainly falls in line with our

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true North statement.

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Man, let's give him a round of applause, a place to serve, that is a great exam,

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Hey man, let's give them a round of applause a place to serve the business

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Ladies and gentlemen

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Would three or four

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we're three, we're four, five.

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five

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Thank you mayor as always get you some of first fruits and vegetables at the farmers market. I always give a plug for that. That's a healthy eating

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Thank you, Mayor.

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As always, get some first fruits and vegetables at the farmers market.

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I always give a plug for that, that's healthy eating.

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It's kind of a word for me, and I think it's a food truck Tuesday today, if you want to grab a bite

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It's kind of a word for me, and I think it's a food truck 2D today, if you want to grab a bite-eat there.

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out there.

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Also, I wanted to give a little shout out to the Arts and Humanities Department, and we have put some money aside for some art restoration, the town hall, and the armory, there's work that's going on over there that I got a report of, we're going to put together some of the art and artifacts that were...

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Also, I want to give a little shout out to the Arts and Humanities Department.

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We have put some money aside for some art restoration, the Town Hall, and the Armory.

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There's work that's going on over there that I got a report of.

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We're going to put together some of the art and artifacts that we're

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Here in this building and in other buildings in the city for the city of Lawton, I believe that there are several entities that involved that, including the museum, just to kind of give you a heads up.

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It is always important to understand that our history identifies who we are, and it is always something that we should be proud of as Lothtonian. Thank you, Mayor.

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I'd just like to say Mayor and Council, I appreciate our city staff, I appreciate the

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management, our city manager. This past week goes out and about taking care of some

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matters and seeing a few of our city workers just out working. I just went by and honked

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the horn and everybody that was in the hole turns and goes like this. I don't know that

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they knew who I was, doesn't matter, but I appreciate the friendlyness of our city staff.

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All right, love it, and more than seven.

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Just wanted to say thanks again to the Race Relations Committee members, the subcommittee

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that puts on that sponsor of the proclamation today is Benny Janos, Kim Jones, and Wynona

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Alberti, and they do a really good job and just wanted to thank the entire Race Relations

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Committee meeting members for all the hard work that they do volunteering their time to come

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Good

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afternoon Mayor, and I just want to express on behalf of General Brooks and Commissioner

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Mayor Sartaine, the ongoing support for his strategic planning session with his outlook

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towards a lot of civil committee in 2040 in the last couple of days.

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He'll do his outreach on Friday, Mr. Mayor, I think you've got the invitation to attend

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that and talk some more afterwards.

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And then also this morning I kind of hosted the first of my quarterly coffee at the Commanders

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to appreciate Mr. Harris for attending this morning.

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New direction, I'm taking that in regards of kind of looking

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at the light cycle of an assignment for a family

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and this we're trying to get them involved

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from reception through their living experience here in Latin

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and then all the way through their transition

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with hoping for those soldiers that are looking

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to transition out of the service that we've provided

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in such a great opportunity that they'll consider staying here

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South West Oklahoma making a lot in their homes.

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So I think it was a great first step, and we'll continue to get the invites as move forward

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and hopefully to more tenants.

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And I'm going to say while we're talking about Fort Hill, I really appreciate the continued.

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I guess continued improving is where to say at relationship and working together.

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us trying to be what we need to be to for itself so that you can be the destination of

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choice, which ties in with our mission of being the community of choice, and also with us

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providing jobs for the exiting soldiers and doing everything we need to support you in the

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sport we get in other way and I appreciate that.

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Now, I want to talk about the whirlwind tour just a minute because I was so impressed by our staff.

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I threw on them at the last minute four evenings of going out in the community and talking.

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And we had twice as many staff members. Some of them are required to be there.

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We had twice as many as we're required the staff rose to the occasion.

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I've got a theory on that and I think it's because they like being highlighted for the great job they're doing,

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providing services to the citizens.

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And they want every opportunity they can to get out and tell the story

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of what's happening and law enforcement and the way that they are living up to the true

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North statement and the true North culture statement and I think they did a great job

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and I'm going to tell you at no time since I've been here, put you in five years. Have I ever felt

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like the city was moving in the right direction more than I did today? Would you counsel help

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me appreciate our staff.

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Thank you guys. Now we'll move on to audience participation. Anyone

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having an item of business to present to the City Council that does not appear on the agenda,

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please come forward at this time. We have two individuals that have signed up, Gregory Allen Smith,

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if you'll make your way on down to the mic, sir, and just in how if you'll make your way over,

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you'll be next.

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And Mr. Smith, address and name and address. Full name and address, please.

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Okay, sir. There we go.

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Great, great, age Smith, 108 Southwest, I Avenue, Lawton, Oklahoma.

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Okay, sir, how can we help you?

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I like to get authorization and permission to at least work on cars in my backyard and

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parking on the grass.

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I mean, I've had family services get all over my butt about being in my back yard doing things.

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I mean, seems like to me I ought to be able to change spark plugs to work on my car or something

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or it just doesn't seem right to be able not to park in your backyard.

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We do that process for that and so we can't really talk back and forth or in order to

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participation by law, we can only discuss what's on the agenda, but the city manager can

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direct you to somebody that can help you with the process for that.

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I've been down to code office and stuff and nobody seems to have any idea what's going on.

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It's just that's the way the code is and that's that.

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I gave him my card mayor so we just give it to me now.

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I've been a long time over this ordeal, I mean, yeah, I just got a card today.

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So I guess go on and keep fighting. You guys, huh?

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Well, if you want to call it fighting, you can.

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I'm going to say this although I'm not supposed to be discussing things.

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We make the codes for the benefit of the whole citizenry.

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And I would say that typically people probably aren't going to want their neighbors working on vehicles in the backyard.

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Having said that, having said that,

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I will direct you to the staff and there are proper channels to bring that to the council

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and they can direct you in that on that behalf, okay?

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Thank you very much.

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And Justin Howard,

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hi, and I need your full name and address please.

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Yes, my name is Justin Howard, I live in 2015 North West Pollard here in Lobby, Oklahoma.

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And I want to say a few things regarding my brother, Robert Charles Rogers, who was recently arrested August 15, 2023.

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In regards to his arrest, this situation has caused my family a lot of anxiety and emotional distress.

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My brother has unseen disabilities,

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okay.

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He was afraid,

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and he was trying to avoid a rest.

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Elping the new or should have known that the person

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would lock up after being taste.

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This resulted in some serious trauma for him,

469
00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:16,430
because he was fleeing.

470
00:53:17,090 --> 00:53:19,510
I feel that the policy should be re-examine

471
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:22,710
for the unconstitutional tazer policy.

472
00:53:24,310 --> 00:53:30,470
That is a lack of training, using a taser of failing to follow their training.

473
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:36,490
The else to set my brother was snoring, and he did not give him adequate medical care.

474
00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:41,410
This resulted in an indifference, a deliberate indifference for my brother.

475
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:44,590
He was not committed to commit to a more hospital.

476
00:53:44,590 --> 00:53:53,850
So he's going to need surgery because his nose was, this was detached,

477
00:53:55,930 --> 00:53:57,670
swelling, his teeth

478
00:53:57,670 --> 00:54:03,710
are jammed back up into his gums, and he is going to need a lot of surgery.

479
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:09,190
He is still in the Comanche County Detention Center and myself and my family are working

480
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:10,270
to get him released.

481
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:13,130
Thank you for taking the time to listen.

482
00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:15,290
And thank you for coming, ma'am.

483
00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:16,130
Thank you.

484
00:54:16,990 --> 00:54:20,830
Is there anybody else that would like to come forward at this time of audience participation?

485
00:54:23,570 --> 00:54:28,070
Seeing none, I will close the audience participation and move on to the consent agenda.

486
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:35,650
The following items are be considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted with one motion.

487
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:44,270
Should a discussion be desired on an item, that item will be removed from the consent agenda prior to action and considered separately?

488
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:51,230
And Council, we're striking, item number 14, I'm pulling item number 12, are there any

489
00:54:51,230 --> 00:54:54,030
others that you'd like to pull?

490
00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:54,850
A poll,

491
00:54:57,590 --> 00:54:59,790
nine, okay, we're pulling nine,

492
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:03,710
three,

493
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:14,630
are there any others, Council?

494
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:17,890
I have 12, nine, and three to pull,

495
00:55:20,570 --> 00:55:22,190
and I have striped 14.

496
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:30,740
If there's no others, I would make a motion to approve the consent agenda as posted with

497
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:36,860
exception of pulling items number 12, 9, and 3, and striking item number 14.

498
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,480
I have a motion in a second.

499
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:42,420
Please call our please vote.

500
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:50,970
Motion carries eight to zero, bringing up item three.

501
00:55:51,370 --> 00:55:57,670
Consider adopting a resolution of proving the joint petition settlement in the amount of $8,910

502
00:55:57,670 --> 00:56:04,270
of making payment in the workers' compensation claim of Ramon Artega, Mr. Hampton.

503
00:56:04,270 --> 00:56:14,510
Yes, Mayor, I pull this out of because I need to abstain because I'm for me with the gentleman in the question here.

504
00:56:16,340 --> 00:56:22,090
Okay, was someone want to make a motion? Motion for approvals or second?

505
00:56:23,210 --> 00:56:27,410
Would you have a second? Discussion or debate? Please vote.

506
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Mr. Warren, were you going to vote on this item?

507
00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:08,690
The motion carries seven years, one abstain, zero, no.

508
00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:13,010
Moving is to item nine.

509
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,900
Consider referring the evaluation of the request for proposal RFPs, pertaining to the

510
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:27,040
management and operation of school has slowed, located at Lake La Tonka to the water authority

511
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,200
to include any necessary action as it pertains to the acceptance, approval and

512
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,540
or rejection, have said proposals, do you have something you want to say or do you want

513
00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:40,940
Tim to explain or do you want Tim to continue to Tim?

514
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:47,160
So Mayor and Council, this item Council directed the city go out for RFPs for a

515
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,320
concessionary to take over the concessionaries, to get a new concessionaries for schoolhouse

516
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:58,980
slew, and looking at this staff did, and we did do that, we have one back in, which is

517
00:57:58,980 --> 00:58:03,100
the packet. But in looking at it, this is really something for the water authority to consider

518
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:10,200
not city council. So all we're doing here is the city council is referring this matter to

519
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,080
the water authority. It will not be considered today at the water authority. It will be

520
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,240
a gended for a future meeting of the water authority and the water authority will take that

521
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,720
at a future time.

522
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,900
Motion for approval by Mr. Gilles or second. As second, Ms. Hankins,

523
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,580
Discussion on debate. Please vote.

524
00:58:33,820 --> 00:58:38,180
Motion carries eight to zero brings up item 12. Consider

525
00:58:38,180 --> 00:58:44,120
granting a long-term ground lease agreement to Cody and Shelby Zimmerman to allow exclusive

526
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:50,820
ingress and egress over and across the city owned property located south of 359 northwest

527
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:57,180
cherry road located on the west side of U.S. Highway 62 by Chandler Creek and Lake elsewhere

528
00:58:57,180 --> 00:59:04,320
in the Northwest quarter of section 19, Township, 4 North, Range 11 West, at the end of

529
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,100
the Meridian, Community County, Oklahoma, Tim.

530
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,780
Okay, Mayor Council, this item is on for this council meeting.

531
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:13,420
It's also on for our water authority.

532
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,180
It went to both the Council and the Water Authority back on July 25th.

533
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:26,320
After it was approved by both the Council and the Water Authority Council for the

534
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,520
As Emerments reached, I believe the city manager had some concerns with one of the languages

535
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,200
of the language.

536
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:39,500
I believe as in paragraph, I want to say 21 about a signability, what was in the agenda at

537
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:42,760
the time it, I think, went to Councilor said it wasn't a signable.

538
00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:46,440
The city manager recommended a floor amendment that was made.

539
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:53,200
That language still wasn't acceptable to Mr. Zimmerman's council, so we put in language

540
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,240
paragraph 21 that is acceptable, saying that this lease shall be binding upon

541
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,980
a nurse to the benefit of.

542
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,860
And as enforceable by the parties, their successors and interest, their errors and their devisees, that's okay with the city, that language with staff.

543
01:00:10,420 --> 01:00:16,020
As we put that in there, and we re-adjusted the start date for the least of the October 1st.

544
01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:24,340
Our recommendation is that you approve it, but did be subject to or contingent upon water authority approval later on this afternoon.

545
01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:35,870
So you move what he said, okay, is there a second, may you have a second, discussion or debate?

546
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:45,090
So I have some a little bit concerned about the exclusive exclusivity of this

547
01:00:45,090 --> 01:00:56,770
Is this effect or any of the public's access to the public land that is this crosses?

548
01:00:57,930 --> 01:01:05,290
So it would affect the public's access to this little strip of land that we're talking about for the least,

549
01:01:05,470 --> 01:01:09,430
but the rest of the public land adjacent to it would not.

550
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:22,230
But is there a road that goes back there because of this road, I looked at it the other day, and if they get the exclusive use of that there, I didn't see another access point back to the rest of the land.

551
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:28,040
So there is a road that goes back there.

552
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:36,920
I don't know if it's being used exclusively by the Zimmerman, they've used it for quite some time since they purchased the land that they own.

553
01:01:36,920 --> 01:02:01,160
And my understanding is that part of this is because there's a fence that's on, that's on public land that they thought that they were, that they was there land and that fence is in somewhat of disarray, but it's, it's, they're going to take, take control of that area and maintain it, which they've been doing anyway.

554
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:12,300
So it does kind of reduce a little bit of access to the public, but it's for the most part it's what they've already been maintaining anyway.

555
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,120
Okay, that was my main concern.

556
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:18,950
Do I have more questions or a motion?

557
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,200
Move to approve.

558
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:23,380
Pardon me?

559
01:02:23,620 --> 01:02:24,000
Move to approve.

560
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:25,520
We have a motion for approval.

561
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Excuse me on the cross talk.

562
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:29,640
Motion for approvals or second.

563
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,720
Okay, discuss her debate.

564
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,920
Please vote.

565
01:02:39,830 --> 01:02:42,050
Motion carries seven to one.

566
01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:45,350
That brings up

567
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,440
item 32 under and finished business.

568
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,940
Further recommendation of the Employment Matters Committee,

569
01:02:55,340 --> 01:02:59,900
consider proving a resolution and ending the current pay scale for executive level positions

570
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:06,120
by increasing the minimum hourly rate and the maximum hourly rate for each executive level

571
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:13,300
In any adjustments to the executive levels, consistent with the recent compensation and classification

572
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:19,460
analysis, recommendations and such good information gathered on job descriptions of qualifications

573
01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:27,500
from a group of six cities as directed by City Council. The new pay scale will be retroactively

574
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:35,320
effective July 123 and will repeal all previous executive level pay scales. Council will take action

575
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,940
as deemed necessary to include any of floor amendments.

576
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,060
John, I have you down as an information source.

577
01:03:43,780 --> 01:03:45,440
It'll be a Craig Mayor.

578
01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:51,320
Good afternoon, Council.

579
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,680
As you know, this has been, and this has been

580
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,740
to the Council prior to, and after some direction to us,

581
01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:07,100
and then also the formation of the Employee Matters Committee.

582
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:13,760
Mr. Hampton was heading up, I would refer to him if he wants to give any information.

583
01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:21,400
We had meetings, we had a couple of meetings, and my understanding is we agreed to bring

584
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:28,120
this back to the council today on the pay on the pay scale for executive employees.

585
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:28,700
Okay.

586
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:29,540
Mr. Hampton?

587
01:04:29,540 --> 01:04:43,520
Yes, may we our committee have vetted this and did look at the sister cities there's some input that Craig and his staff put together appreciate the time and effort for doing that

588
01:04:44,780 --> 01:04:53,300
I believe that we came to an agreement that the pancreases that we're going to hand out which will be retroactive to July

589
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:02,140
We're going to put us in line and in competition with the rest of the cities in Oklahoma

590
01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:13,760
as we look to fill positions and move forward and being fair to the upper administration of our staff.

591
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,980
And I just want to want this to do sure.

592
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,440
And this comes with the blessing of the city manager, correct?

593
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:28,240
It does. Thank you, Mayor. Do you have anything else to want to tell us?

594
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,460
No. Do we have any questions or a motion?

595
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,980
We have a motion to approve?

596
01:05:34,820 --> 01:05:34,860
Second.

597
01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:38,080
And a second. Discussion or debate? Please vote.

598
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Motion carries eight to zero.

599
01:05:49,780 --> 01:05:51,140
Brings up item 33.

600
01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:57,020
And accordance with the true North culture statement and that we do everything for the citizens,

601
01:05:57,020 --> 01:06:04,340
Consider holding a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance pertaining to special

602
01:06:04,340 --> 01:06:18,280
requirements when abetting residential districts by Mending Section 18616678 Division 18616 Division 186 chapter 18 lot

603
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:24,900
in City Code 2015 by modifying the special screening requirement for the I-3 light industrial

604
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:31,060
of district, providing for severability, establish an effective date, and allowing for floor

605
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:33,260
amendments, Cameron.

606
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:46,520
Good afternoon, Mayor Council.

607
01:06:46,740 --> 01:06:47,400
Good afternoon.

608
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:55,100
This is a change of code brought to you in honor of the true North culture statement that

609
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:56,620
we do everything for the citizens.

610
01:06:57,220 --> 01:07:02,740
This is going to lessen the requirements for the screening for the industrial zone properties.

611
01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:09,700
Currently, as it stands, the industrial zone properties, no matter what the use is for the I3 zoning,

612
01:07:10,220 --> 01:07:11,820
they require to be opaque screened.

613
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:21,240
We've had some permits come in recently that weren't industrial uses that were still allowed in that industrial zone.

614
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:28,780
It was an office building, and we were requiring them to screen their properties because across the street was a residential.

615
01:07:28,780 --> 01:07:41,940
So, this is to lessen that requirement, so that if it's an industrial use, the screening will still be required if it's a lesser use, it'll follow the screening requirements of that lesser zoning classification.

616
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:54,780
This was taken to the City Planning Commission on August 24th, and they recommended to approve, and this was published in the Law and Constitution on August 11th.

617
01:07:54,780 --> 01:08:02,600
Okay, Council, we're going to have a public hearing, so you can have questions without comments right now of the staff member.

618
01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:06,890
Seeing none, I'll open the public hearing.

619
01:08:07,210 --> 01:08:11,970
Anybody wish to come forward and speak at this time? Please do so.

620
01:08:15,450 --> 01:08:18,490
Seeing none, I will close the public hearing.

621
01:08:19,790 --> 01:08:23,170
Do Council to have comments, questions or motion?

622
01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:29,010
Motion for approvals or second?

623
01:08:30,310 --> 01:08:33,990
I do have a second, this goes turn to debate, I'm going to make a comment.

624
01:08:35,710 --> 01:08:37,470
Was this originated by the staff?

625
01:08:38,830 --> 01:08:41,610
Because I think this is absolutely true, North.

626
01:08:45,530 --> 01:08:51,530
Yes, it was, after we had a couple of businesses come in and ask for a variance to the

627
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:55,470
requirement for the screening, we took a look at it and decided that we could make some

628
01:08:55,470 --> 01:08:55,910
changes.

629
01:08:56,490 --> 01:08:59,310
This is absolutely awesome, thank you for doing it.

630
01:08:59,310 --> 01:09:01,510
Any other questions or comments?

631
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:03,940
For the most.

632
01:09:06,380 --> 01:09:06,940
Oh, OK.

633
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:08,320
You made the motion.

634
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:08,820
I did.

635
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,080
And your motion was to approve,

636
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,800
waive the reading of the ordinance and read the title on that.

637
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:14,400
That is true.

638
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,760
Was that the second?

639
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,540
They made the second.

640
01:09:18,980 --> 01:09:19,240
OK.

641
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:20,340
Please read the title.

642
01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:23,900
And ordinance pertaining to special requirements when a

643
01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:30,800
budding residential districts by a

644
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:43,600
16 article 186 chapter 18 lot in city code 2015 by modifying the special screening requirement for the I3 light industrial district providing for

645
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,100
severability and establishing an effective date. Please vote.

646
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,100
Much carries 7 to 1

647
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:04,500
brings up item number 34. Receiver report from WTI on options for future

648
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:09,340
for Quotix facilities and direct staff as deemed necessary, Mitch.

649
01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:11,620
Good afternoon, Council.

650
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,360
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Robby from Water Technologies Inc.

651
01:10:15,380 --> 01:10:22,360
He is here to talk about options for future aquatics facilities here in the city of

652
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:22,700
Latin.

653
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:26,220
He's got a long slideshow, but please don't let that scare you.

654
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,660
We've been talking about it, and I'm excited to have him back.

655
01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:34,100
You've seen him before, so I'll turn the mic over to Robbie with WTI.

656
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,660
All right, Robbie.

657
01:10:37,420 --> 01:10:37,940
Hazelbacker.

658
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:39,460
Yes, sir?

659
01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:40,020
Right.

660
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:44,260
Well, this has been an exciting meeting with the Proclamation Great Music.

661
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Pay raises.

662
01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:48,220
Wow, this is, I hope not to lose your enthusiasm.

663
01:10:48,220 --> 01:10:49,600
We talk about pools.

664
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:53,160
We've been talking about pools for quite a while.

665
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:56,820
You all hired us to evaluate your waiting pools.

666
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,020
What 10 months ago, almost a year ago.

667
01:10:59,020 --> 01:11:03,180
And we did that, and while we were up here, we went by looked at the pool, we've been talking

668
01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:06,080
to staff about the pools, like, frantically, tried to get it open.

669
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:11,920
And we also were involved in aquatic master plan, the overall master plan.

670
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:13,600
It's really been moving.

671
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:20,620
And so we did do a couple of designs, actually, for your consideration.

672
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,620
And even in the master plan, when I looked at Elmer Thomas's master plan, the pool kind

673
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:27,200
looks like a little snake in the grass.

674
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:33,640
So, I'm excited to explain what that is and how we got there, and so we're going to get going here.

675
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,620
So, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about yesterday's aquatic centers.

676
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:43,880
What I learned to swim in, what we all grew up in, in the 60s, 70s, and what those look like,

677
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:50,020
and the role of today's aquatic center, which has been vastly different for the last 20 years actually.

678
01:11:50,020 --> 01:11:57,080
I want to recognize trends in what we call water tame it, which is fun things to do in a pool.

679
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,840
The reason why families come there and go there time and time again, it can't wait to be there.

680
01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:06,120
We're going to check in on our neighbors, kind of see what they offer around us.

681
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:12,120
Got some outdoor pool examples with some costs just so we can kind of understand costs and square footage.

682
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:19,940
And then I'm going to quickly go through how do we come up with a current plan that we presented to you for your consideration?

683
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,160
And it was a piece of clay.

684
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,480
We can change and do anything.

685
01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:36,520
But we had a place on Elmercomis given to us and we actually did some current trends, new pools that would fit in there nicely, just for you to consider.

686
01:12:37,300 --> 01:12:39,200
And then answer any questions.

687
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,700
You can stop me at any time, too.

688
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:44,080
So yesterday's aquatic center looks like this.

689
01:12:44,660 --> 01:12:45,860
And I had one of my neighborhood.

690
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,580
In fact, I had five in a city I worked for once.

691
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,860
And they were all concrete.

692
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:52,880
They were very hot.

693
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:54,900
They were heavily subsidized.

694
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,760
There wasn't a lot of reasons for multi-generational use.

695
01:12:59,980 --> 01:13:01,320
It's just the way it was.

696
01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:03,360
And we had a bunch of them.

697
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,500
Most cities had more pools than they needed.

698
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:09,260
But today's aquatic center,

699
01:13:12,710 --> 01:13:14,010
by the way, here's another one.

700
01:13:14,230 --> 01:13:17,810
This is an abling and they had all the same complaints.

701
01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:20,010
We had to take where aboard that board was gone.

702
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:23,770
The pool was losing water, big time.

703
01:13:24,230 --> 01:13:28,210
They came up with a budget that they gave us and we changed it into this.

704
01:13:29,050 --> 01:13:32,270
So it looks like a water park, but I'll tell you this is a people holder.

705
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:36,510
This pool actually pays for itself and that is rare.

706
01:13:36,510 --> 01:13:41,690
But they're a concession program and so many other things that they put together.

707
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:47,490
Here's a typical day in Abelene, Texas, just a beautiful sight to see.

708
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:48,850
So many people participating.

709
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:51,830
It just worked out well.

710
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:55,510
Here's a little pool that's no deeper than four feet, which is the trend right now.

711
01:13:55,730 --> 01:13:56,630
A shallow water.

712
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:57,950
Even that lazy river.

713
01:13:58,190 --> 01:13:59,550
It's only three and a half feet deep.

714
01:14:00,530 --> 01:14:02,450
But they attract people from all over.

715
01:14:03,230 --> 01:14:05,290
So the role of today's aquatic center.

716
01:14:05,290 --> 01:14:14,790
It is an inexpensive alternative for recreation. Typically these pools are $4.5. You're a

717
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:21,310
residents paid $1 when you had a fee, but this is an all day event for so many. A pool

718
01:14:21,310 --> 01:14:27,790
typically turns over one and a half times in a day. So you configure that. Certainly a

719
01:14:27,790 --> 01:14:32,210
great place to socialize. You know, we need to bring our communities together. People talk

720
01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:34,010
each other, get to know each other.

721
01:14:34,450 --> 01:14:35,950
Birthday parties are a big deal.

722
01:14:36,570 --> 01:14:38,670
Families being together is very important.

723
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:41,230
A pool does that for us.

724
01:14:42,750 --> 01:14:44,570
I mentioned family changing rooms, where

725
01:14:45,770 --> 01:14:48,530
restrooms, my brain, my six-year-old granddaughter

726
01:14:48,530 --> 01:14:50,330
to the pool, and she's going to go to the bathroom,

727
01:14:50,830 --> 01:14:52,290
which restrooms are going to go into it.

728
01:14:52,330 --> 01:14:54,390
Well, I want to go to the family changing centers.

729
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:55,290
I want to be comfortable.

730
01:14:55,790 --> 01:14:57,190
And that's a trend for today.

731
01:14:57,650 --> 01:14:59,750
Also today, they're fun and they're exciting.

732
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:59,970
Thanks for watching.

733
01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:30,300
Here's a beach entry pool that I speak a little bit about what beach entry is. It has a place structure on it that's very large. I'm not looking for that big a place structure for a lot right now, but I really like the beach entry idea for a lot. Also, birthday parties, as I mentioned, family parties, family reunions, high school prom, swim parties. There are a lot of things that go on in today's pools. And of course, all ADA accessible.

734
01:15:30,500 --> 01:15:35,980
That's a very important, that's a no-brainer for us, that's the law, and that's what we're going to do.

735
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:45,460
Some of the trends, interactive plate features in the beach entries or zero depth pools, where kids can come up and turn on and off their own water.

736
01:15:46,220 --> 01:15:53,740
Kids really just want to get wet. Small slides for kids, splash pads, as you know very well, are very, very popular.

737
01:15:53,740 --> 01:16:01,100
Here's the family slide, it goes off into a foot of water with a pad, very, very popular.

738
01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:03,740
I'm really doing a lot of these right now.

739
01:16:05,690 --> 01:16:10,290
Of course, water slides, this one's enabling, but I'm wondering to emphasize, this is what

740
01:16:10,290 --> 01:16:14,990
they call a plunge pool, where one pool would slide terminates into the water.

741
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:21,390
In this case, they're on a tube, they terminate into that water, and then they evolve into

742
01:16:21,390 --> 01:16:27,970
lazy river so it just becomes you know a really long term fun activity. Here it is again.

743
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:35,030
There's also run outs that we're going to talk about and run outs are undact their space

744
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:42,270
sabers. You come down the slide and you slow down into a water run out. That's what those are.

745
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:50,270
These are interactive play features and beach entries and we drew some of those in our plan for you

746
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:54,150
just for consideration. So I just want to show you up close kind of what those look like.

747
01:16:54,150 --> 01:16:59,670
something buckets whether they be large or small or really fun because the kids anticipate them falling

748
01:16:59,670 --> 01:17:05,370
because they're filling them up slowly and then they start tipping and those kids all around

749
01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:11,330
that can't wait for that to happen. These are floatables. They're only about $3,000. This particular

750
01:17:11,330 --> 01:17:15,890
pool owns four of them and they rotate at each month and then they take good care of them in the winter

751
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:21,130
time and so every time they come out there, people are loving it all over. They just float,

752
01:17:23,790 --> 01:17:24,130
they can

753
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:30,290
floatables. This is probably the most popular activity. This is just a

754
01:17:30,290 --> 01:17:36,530
lily pad walk. They're walking on logs in this style. We love drawing those in.

755
01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:41,190
They're really fun to do across maybe a small app pool as well, but you'll see this

756
01:17:41,190 --> 01:17:45,110
when you look at some of the other cities. So let's check on our neighbors here

757
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:54,110
just for a minute. What does everybody have? Well, this pool here that's set the

758
01:17:54,110 --> 01:18:04,610
So it's a very large. Remember this number, 16,000 feet and at Norman Oklahoma, that is a really large pool. In fact, they've got four pools on this property.

759
01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:12,290
Pretty large. There's a better picture of it. Some of the areas that I get are only taken in the wintertime. So it's not to make these look bad.

760
01:18:12,650 --> 01:18:18,310
It's just that it's the best picture I can get without going to all of them in two weeks.

761
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:24,890
So this is very popular pool, this is very large, again, I keep saying that, it serves multiple

762
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:29,050
populations, and it's what they designed to be able to attract others.

763
01:18:29,550 --> 01:18:30,890
It really is a destination.

764
01:18:33,070 --> 01:18:40,030
This pool is brand new, and it's a broken bow, and square foot, it's 9300 square feet.

765
01:18:40,370 --> 01:18:41,310
It's a rectangle.

766
01:18:41,570 --> 01:18:46,410
We don't see as many of those anymore, but they wanted to offer diving, and so they were able

767
01:18:46,410 --> 01:18:51,630
to do a dive well, if they have a beach entry, they have one lone feature in there.

768
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:55,970
This is in Broken Arrow, it looks like it just rang, it looks like the guards are picking

769
01:18:55,970 --> 01:18:57,810
up leaves and debris to me.

770
01:18:59,290 --> 01:19:04,190
But that's a pretty neat pool that they have, there's 8,500 square feet, we're just kind

771
01:19:04,190 --> 01:19:08,950
of trying to, we're kind of going down a little bit from 12,000 to 9,000 to 8,500.

772
01:19:10,210 --> 01:19:15,770
This pool, they just did an RF queue for it and we did the evaluation, so we know it well.

773
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:21,970
But unfortunately, this pool only lasted 20 years for them, and that's really important

774
01:19:21,970 --> 01:19:24,790
because this should be a 40-year deal.

775
01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:30,010
But when we evaluated it, it had a lot of structural things that it was the way it was built,

776
01:19:30,570 --> 01:19:33,690
I don't think it was the way it was designed, even that we didn't design it.

777
01:19:34,330 --> 01:19:38,690
So that's out for, they're going to replace this pool, and we hope we do that.

778
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:40,270
Here's a better look at it.

779
01:19:40,270 --> 01:19:41,550
Very, very popular pool.

780
01:19:41,550 --> 01:19:44,970
I've known about Pelican Bay for 15 years.

781
01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:49,490
So a very popular pool that needs to be read done.

782
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:52,430
This pool is really old school.

783
01:19:52,930 --> 01:19:54,730
I guess they have a swim team,

784
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:56,710
but I don't see any of the starting blocks.

785
01:19:57,290 --> 01:20:02,030
So I'm not sure why they have this huge rectangle in the unit.

786
01:20:03,450 --> 01:20:05,590
That's what they have, and it tells me

787
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:08,690
that it's probably built in the 70s or 60s.

788
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:16,430
50, I say it, but I put on there 50, I found it, I did some research, I finally found it.

789
01:20:16,630 --> 01:20:22,550
This is Reno swim and slide in Midwest City, this is a really busy park as well.

790
01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:24,630
I was saying anybody familiar with it necessarily,

791
01:20:26,670 --> 01:20:29,830
it's very large, it's 500,000 gallons

792
01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:35,270
and that's a lot of water to move so that wouldn't be something I'd recommend for us,

793
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:39,830
but I do like the climbing wall and again, it is very popular and it's serving, it's the

794
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:43,770
just looking across and seeing interactive water features,

795
01:20:44,170 --> 01:20:47,290
sea lap lanes, sea intertaves, it's popular.

796
01:20:49,470 --> 01:20:52,230
So, what's going on in here, this is in Del City.

797
01:20:52,490 --> 01:20:54,270
This is almost 9,000 square feet.

798
01:20:54,690 --> 01:20:57,850
So, to the left, they have a beach entry that you come down to.

799
01:20:58,110 --> 01:20:59,330
And then they have a little island.

800
01:20:59,770 --> 01:21:02,430
And I can tell by those posts that that's a water walk.

801
01:21:02,970 --> 01:21:05,410
So, they built the island to support the water walk.

802
01:21:05,890 --> 01:21:07,530
And then they have four lap lanes.

803
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:09,950
and then they have a deep well and two diving boards.

804
01:21:10,030 --> 01:21:11,010
One, I was three meter.

805
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:13,510
That's a lot of pool right now.

806
01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:16,350
That's a fairly old-type design,

807
01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:19,990
but I assume it works for them.

808
01:21:20,690 --> 01:21:22,610
And this is another look at it.

809
01:21:23,890 --> 01:21:25,590
You can see the high dive there, three meter.

810
01:21:25,670 --> 01:21:27,210
You don't see a lot of high dive right now.

811
01:21:29,420 --> 01:21:31,000
So this is a city of more.

812
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,540
And so they obviously believe in lap lanes,

813
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:38,900
having six of those, and then they go into a deep well,

814
01:21:38,900 --> 01:21:41,040
kind of see a pattern here, a lot of the old pools were

815
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,920
l-shaped and they could support one or two diving boards in the

816
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,440
deep well. They also have a lazy river and a very large one,

817
01:21:48,620 --> 01:21:52,040
which is what's surrounding those slides. And then they have a

818
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:56,320
top pool, which is up in the upper right, probably zero depth to

819
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,300
18 inches. That's all. Their current channel is only

820
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:03,280
three and a half feet. That's really what's popular right now

821
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,860
again, shallow water. There's another look at it, it looks

822
01:22:06,860 --> 01:22:11,480
really good on this day, looks like they've got a lot of shade, and looks like they do a really

823
01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:12,980
good job keeping the water clear.

824
01:22:15,550 --> 01:22:17,910
So, as we look at outdoor pool examples, with a desire

825
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:22,950
to manage, I just want to show you a few, this is in the woodlands, and so in 2017, this

826
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:29,930
costs $6 million. And that's, it had existing parking, so, done include the tennis courts,

827
01:22:30,190 --> 01:22:34,250
it's the bath house and everything you see in there, costs 6 million then. We're seen

828
01:22:34,250 --> 01:22:35,970
about 12% a year inflation.

829
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:39,210
So that's been six years, right?

830
01:22:40,610 --> 01:22:42,670
So it's probably eight million now.

831
01:22:44,150 --> 01:22:46,630
Here's another one built in 2018, very popular.

832
01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:47,890
It's really fun to do.

833
01:22:48,190 --> 01:22:49,210
It's a plunge pool.

834
01:22:49,370 --> 01:22:52,090
You can see one single slide to save money.

835
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:56,130
We did build a slide to host another slide at some point.

836
01:22:56,170 --> 01:22:57,710
And I don't know if they've done that or not.

837
01:22:58,090 --> 01:23:01,910
But this was all phase one.

838
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:07,950
and the slide goes into a plunge pool which evolves into a lazy river and then there's a

839
01:23:07,950 --> 01:23:13,610
beach entry on the right that goes down very slow slope and then it's sort of protected

840
01:23:13,610 --> 01:23:19,010
into three and a half feet deep of water. Lots of shade they've got way more now. This pool

841
01:23:19,010 --> 01:23:25,270
today would probably cost about 10. It's got a really nice bath house and concessions is a real

842
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:31,690
big deal with them. This is pretty modest. It has two slides with run outs so they're not

843
01:23:31,690 --> 01:23:37,230
on just but we do have a drop slide in the upper right corner and it shares that space with

844
01:23:37,230 --> 01:23:42,490
a diving board and one thing is also interesting to me has a lazy river and has the beach

845
01:23:42,490 --> 01:23:47,530
entries we've been discussing as lots of shade but in the upper left corner that's a sand

846
01:23:47,530 --> 01:23:54,290
box and so the kids play in the sand and then well they better watch off before they get in

847
01:23:54,290 --> 01:23:57,990
the beach entry but it's real popular and it's a very nice bath house.

848
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:04,730
This is pretty simple, this is, I really like this pool because it reminds me in a way

849
01:24:04,730 --> 01:24:06,050
whatever Thomas might be.

850
01:24:06,150 --> 01:24:13,530
They have a free splash pad next to the pool, and they have dual slides, there's a bottom

851
01:24:13,530 --> 01:24:18,770
slide that we can only see the start of it, and the slide empty into a plunged pool, which

852
01:24:18,770 --> 01:24:22,850
we talked about, a lazy river, a beach entry, and they went lap lanes.

853
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:27,410
So they had four lap lanes, and we had a deep, twelve and a half feet deep in the deep

854
01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:29,270
so you could have a diving board.

855
01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:36,190
This was really fun. This was a rectangular pool and we designed

856
01:24:36,190 --> 01:24:40,810
a pool within the pool. They had neighborhoods swim teams. They wanted to make sure they had

857
01:24:40,810 --> 01:24:46,190
a swim team course. They didn't before. And so we did a little peninsula where we could have

858
01:24:46,190 --> 01:24:51,650
lap lanes on one side in a beach entry on the other. And this is kids playing in that beach entry.

859
01:24:52,190 --> 01:24:57,510
You can see the lap pools are always aligned with the diving boards. This really came out right.

860
01:24:57,510 --> 01:25:01,370
And because the demolition was not turned out the whole pool,

861
01:25:01,710 --> 01:25:02,990
they had given up on the pool.

862
01:25:03,230 --> 01:25:05,670
It lost like 80,000 gallons a week.

863
01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:08,270
And we thought that the bones were good enough

864
01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:11,030
that we could build a pool within that pool.

865
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:13,890
And it was level and it just turned out great.

866
01:25:14,710 --> 01:25:16,250
So how do we get to the current plan?

867
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,760
Of course, we met with staff.

868
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,940
We showed pretty pictures, but we showed practical ideas

869
01:25:22,940 --> 01:25:26,240
of pools that we thought lot and could afford.

870
01:25:27,020 --> 01:25:30,480
Not showing them all these palaces, just hey, what's reasonable.

871
01:25:31,180 --> 01:25:38,980
What's reasonable is probably 6,500 square feet, maybe up to nine, but we didn't

872
01:25:38,980 --> 01:25:39,540
need 12.

873
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,780
So this pool offers a lot.

874
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:46,340
We also wanted to talk to them about keeping the teenagers busy and interested.

875
01:25:47,860 --> 01:25:50,080
A lot of them are driving, we want them to drive to the pool.

876
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:54,120
We want them to think this is such a cool deal to be that if they want a live

877
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,320
And that's kind of, that's the nature of this business too, is to raise your life

878
01:25:59,320 --> 01:25:59,760
guards.

879
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,660
We used to call them pool brats.

880
01:26:01,860 --> 01:26:04,280
The kids would hang out every day with our guards.

881
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,860
And those pool brats became great life guards.

882
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:08,960
So it was a good thing.

883
01:26:09,460 --> 01:26:14,280
You can see here's a sunshine where you are sitting in six inches of water where it's

884
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,220
cool and comfortable and watching the kids play.

885
01:26:16,660 --> 01:26:18,800
Here's a broader look of the same pool.

886
01:26:19,020 --> 01:26:19,720
You can see the sunshine.

887
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,640
There's basketball on the left.

888
01:26:21,820 --> 01:26:26,700
You see those interactive structures in the beach entry.

889
01:26:27,460 --> 01:26:31,980
Also, notice there's always a way to get in this pool where you don't get wet.

890
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,140
Because you never know somebody just have their hair done.

891
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,060
And they don't get splashed by kids.

892
01:26:36,860 --> 01:26:40,300
So there's always kind of an easy way to get into the beach entry.

893
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,820
And then you see their plants available here.

894
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,200
Very popular.

895
01:26:45,860 --> 01:26:46,980
Here's the lazy river.

896
01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:52,340
When we showed multiple images to staff,

897
01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:55,820
they really kind of lashed onto this one.

898
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,920
And so this is kind of the baseline for what we did when we did our designs.

899
01:27:01,380 --> 01:27:02,720
So we're going to go to the designs.

900
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,920
So here's the first pool that we came up with.

901
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:08,140
And total cost 5.1.

902
01:27:08,580 --> 01:27:10,800
It's 6,335 square feet.

903
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,880
That means the Bayther load is about 430 people.

904
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:22,900
That means DAC and pool, and it's a code defined by the load, it's square footage divided by 15.

905
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:30,420
So this has a single slide, as a beach entry, it's all one body of water, so it's one mechanical system.

906
01:27:31,140 --> 01:27:39,300
And depending on an architect coming up with a DAC landscape, a mechanical building, a bath house, we're estimating this with the about 5.1.

907
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:45,620
We changed it a little bit with two slides, and we made the lazy river longer, and we also put

908
01:27:45,620 --> 01:27:50,160
a place structure in the beach entry, where it's this one we had nothing in the beach entry,

909
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:55,320
but the guisers you see, and kids would play in down to 18 inch to water, but we added

910
01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,480
a place structure in this one and added a second slide, both have run outs. This is the

911
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:05,040
same amount of square footage, so it's seen about 130 people.

912
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:08,710
So that was a good, better,

913
01:28:08,710 --> 01:28:12,870
this was best by our definition, and I think this is what you have in the drawings.

914
01:28:13,930 --> 01:28:21,030
And we suggested that this might be a two-phase pool situation, that the slides and the

915
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:26,390
plunge pool could come at a later date, and we would plumb for it, so everything's in the

916
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:28,730
ground if you got it as that way.

917
01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:32,130
So they have a lazy river, beach, and three-place structure,

918
01:28:34,230 --> 01:28:35,610
and those are basketball goals

919
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:36,250
in the middle.

920
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:44,730
So it could be done in two phases if you wish, but if all at once, estimated 7.5 with the bath house.

921
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:55,560
So talking to Mitchell, who's really ambitious, he said that some of you might be interested in having some lap lanes.

922
01:28:55,860 --> 01:29:01,460
And in our aquatic study, we decided that there's a ton of lap lanes in the city with the college and with the Y.

923
01:29:01,940 --> 01:29:04,840
And the Y just had their pools re-done, looks beautiful.

924
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:12,140
But people do like swim outside, laughs, swimers do, you can sometimes, if I'm doing this

925
01:29:12,140 --> 01:29:17,220
from the start, again we added this just in talking to you and understanding there might

926
01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:22,120
be an interest route, I would probably design the pool part differently and incorporate

927
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:28,480
the lap lanes, but I just wanted to show you they fit and now you're looking at about

928
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,200
2.25 if you decided to do it.

929
01:29:35,050 --> 01:29:41,430
Okay? So we added the lap lanes in the upper left, and the upper left, yes,

930
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:45,480
sir.

931
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,940
That's because it's an independent pool and independent mechanical system.

932
01:29:51,420 --> 01:29:59,980
If we were to do a redesign on this, I would separate the beach entry pool from all the other bodies of water and keep...

933
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,840
And make the lap pool use the same water. That way, if there's an accident, or what they call code brown, in the beach entry, it's get that. It won't marginalize all the other water. We like to keep the kids full separate every time we can.

934
01:30:18,860 --> 01:30:32,160
So here's the whole deal, and it always comes down to this. So we usually start designing with a spreadsheet. And in this situation, we didn't know how much money. I don't think any of us know how much can we would we spend?

935
01:30:32,860 --> 01:30:38,880
So we did it a little backwards that we designed something that would fit and would fit the city and

936
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:45,080
study the aquatic study, studied ballad kings, financial analysis, and that's where we came

937
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,860
up with the sizes that we came up with.

938
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:47,720
That's the reason.

939
01:30:48,740 --> 01:30:54,320
And then we designed pools that I knew were very popular and would be relevant for years to come.

940
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,700
And then we, we definitely learned the community expectations for those studies.

941
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:05,400
You did a lot of them and you did them at once and it was man and information was pouring in I'm in great job

942
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,420
We also thought about facility capacity, which reasonable and

943
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,800
Then market cost where these things cost

944
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:22,860
It's unbelievable to me how many cities are doing new pools because of how much they cost and we watch to go up the last four years to where

945
01:31:22,860 --> 01:31:23,640
You know

946
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,000
I'm raising my hand all the time. What's those expensive square footage in the building?

947
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:37,520
It's the pool, yeah, it's the pool, because it is, and it's not going down, so there's just a great place for entertainment.

948
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,180
This is something else that I mean to spring on you, but it was an idea.

949
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,300
Mitchell, I talked about it over at the Rec Center.

950
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,180
What if we added a three-lane lap pool in that part of the city?

951
01:31:48,740 --> 01:31:53,580
The kind of replaces what we lost in the big pool, if that ends up happening.

952
01:31:54,120 --> 01:32:00,380
And, you know, this would be open like six in the morning to ten and then maybe again four to eight

953
01:32:00,380 --> 01:32:02,960
for people that last swim after work.

954
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:08,820
And all kinds of games can be played in there, that could be two volleyball courts and

955
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:11,860
that pool configuration has a lot of value.

956
01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:17,660
So we just estimated what it would cost and just food for thought.

957
01:32:18,420 --> 01:32:19,240
This is kind of the look.

958
01:32:19,340 --> 01:32:20,800
It would be outside that door.

959
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,200
really nice clean look, of course it won't have the L shape, it'll be these three lanes.

960
01:32:26,340 --> 01:32:31,260
Something pretty simple that's fence-off nice, that really looks like a good, fun, safe place to go.

961
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:33,780
And that's all I have.

962
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,000
So I really appreciate the opportunity.

963
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,960
I watched the Council meeting and Mr. Warren asked if they could get the...

964
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,880
My wife is in the room and you said, can you get that gentleman back for WTI?

965
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,220
And she says, who's the gentleman? I said, I think it's like hope it's me.

966
01:32:48,140 --> 01:32:55,380
But I appreciate the opportunity come back and I hope that I've just kind of explained why you

967
01:32:55,380 --> 01:33:01,080
we've just drawn up what we did and I'll entertain any questions please.

968
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,260
Just one.

969
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:06,590
And I'm not disappointed at all.

970
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:11,970
I like the idea and I see how that would work in the community.

971
01:33:14,940 --> 01:33:25,040
I feel like though, there's a part of me that just kills my soul that you spend this money

972
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,800
and it's only used a third of the year.

973
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,540
Do y'all do any indoor outdoor?

974
01:33:34,140 --> 01:33:34,860
Oh, absolutely.

975
01:33:35,700 --> 01:33:42,220
Because I would really much rather, if possible, at some point, kind of bounce that around

976
01:33:42,220 --> 01:33:50,340
and see, and maybe not at the part, maybe we do that at a different location, but it does.

977
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:57,740
It just kills my soul to watch all that money sit there for the majority of the year.

978
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:06,900
And the other issue was I believe that if we provided the opportunity for more tournament

979
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:18,360
swims that we would have more people participate. Currently we do have some areas where

980
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:25,140
they can swim. There is really no area for any of their parents, grandparents, friends

981
01:34:25,140 --> 01:34:35,060
to actually watch a race, which is a little detrimental to get anybody involved. So I mean,

982
01:34:35,060 --> 01:34:40,320
other than those issues, I love this and I appreciate you coming.

983
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,740
I think that a lot of what's in there is definitely what we need.

984
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,860
The beach entry is, I think, a great idea.

985
01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:53,480
It didn't exist when I was a kid,

986
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:57,790
but that's true.

987
01:34:58,310 --> 01:35:00,270
We dug a hole and it was a little muddy.

988
01:35:01,470 --> 01:35:12,170
But I do appreciate you coming and if send me some indoor outdoor ideas that you all have done.

989
01:35:12,610 --> 01:35:15,750
Because I'd like to see them just kind of get an idea of what one would cost.

990
01:35:16,490 --> 01:35:21,870
Were you talking about indoor light pool or indoor recreation pool?

991
01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:24,810
Well, I've seen some that were both.

992
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:29,010
They were recreation pools, but the indoor portion

993
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:31,970
had competition lanes.

994
01:35:34,450 --> 01:35:37,450
And again, I don't know how you make that work.

995
01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:44,970
And that way, you could use the indoor portion year round

996
01:35:44,970 --> 01:35:48,130
for not only competition, but also for recreation.

997
01:35:49,670 --> 01:35:56,770
What we have found is that you typically need a rec center with a membership to float the indoor

998
01:35:56,770 --> 01:36:01,230
recreation, lap lanes, just to be honest with you.

999
01:36:01,330 --> 01:36:08,210
It is very expensive, but we do have, it's my job to get images when I find good wins and

1000
01:36:08,210 --> 01:36:16,250
put them on our website and our portfolio, and you can, it's WTIWorld.com, and I suggest that

1001
01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:22,150
because we've kind of already done that work so that we can refer to it.

1002
01:36:25,450 --> 01:36:31,290
I like the idea, Bentonville, have you seen any of the pictures of what they built there?

1003
01:36:32,350 --> 01:36:40,250
But I think what I'm looking at is the future, not really, you know, two summers from now.

1004
01:36:40,250 --> 01:37:04,410
We're building a youth and adult rec center basically, you know, a sports facility, and my idea was if we had the property and the ability to do that, this would be something that we could do in the future to work hand in hand with that facility, but I do appreciate it, and I will be on the website.

1005
01:37:04,410 --> 01:37:05,650
Thank you.

1006
01:37:05,830 --> 01:37:08,350
And then any questions please send them through the staff?

1007
01:37:08,850 --> 01:37:09,310
Mr. Johnson.

1008
01:37:09,890 --> 01:37:10,190
Okay.

1009
01:37:11,490 --> 01:37:17,450
Was there any consideration I think you mentioned that you all had an existing pool and

1010
01:37:17,450 --> 01:37:20,250
the new built inside of that?

1011
01:37:20,450 --> 01:37:25,870
And I know that the center that we have on an 11th street has a lot of issues and the

1012
01:37:25,870 --> 01:37:26,970
wasn't able to be opened.

1013
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:32,110
Was there any talk about what that cost would be and if something like that can happen

1014
01:37:32,110 --> 01:37:32,990
with that pool?

1015
01:37:33,770 --> 01:37:34,810
Yes, absolutely.

1016
01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:37,810
In fact, that's the first thing we try to do.

1017
01:37:38,670 --> 01:37:39,830
But that pool's not level.

1018
01:37:40,170 --> 01:37:43,390
That pool's piping is undersized and doesn't meet code for a turnover.

1019
01:37:44,750 --> 01:37:46,210
So it would look like a war zone.

1020
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:50,310
In fact, we might get the kernel to help us demo it.

1021
01:37:51,170 --> 01:37:54,470
It would look like a war zone cutting out all that piping all the way around.

1022
01:37:54,510 --> 01:37:56,950
And I did give staff a price for that.

1023
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:58,950
And I was saying, I'm so sorry.

1024
01:37:59,250 --> 01:38:01,070
I don't think you want to spend this kind of anything.

1025
01:38:01,070 --> 01:38:08,330
I think it's 1.3, it's to get that pool right, but because the pool is not level, it is moved.

1026
01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:16,770
More people in Oklahoma are draining their pools in the winter, then anyone, any area they are seeing,

1027
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:21,930
and we don't recommend it, because all that weight comes up. What's the pool going to do?

1028
01:38:21,950 --> 01:38:25,610
It's going to get pushed out of the ground, and it only has about one inch of tolerance.

1029
01:38:26,290 --> 01:38:31,750
And so that pool that you have is taller on one end than the other, and we saw it by the

1030
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:32,390
water line.

1031
01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:36,650
So, a portion of the gutter wasn't even working because the water wasn't there, and

1032
01:38:36,650 --> 01:38:38,090
able to overflow the other side.

1033
01:38:38,850 --> 01:38:40,710
So, it just it lived its life.

1034
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:43,770
And that's why we were the bearer of bad days.

1035
01:38:43,890 --> 01:38:45,730
But thank you for that question, exactly right.

1036
01:38:46,430 --> 01:38:49,550
And the staff is telling us they were going to tear out that pool I showed you.

1037
01:38:49,650 --> 01:38:51,770
And we thought we could save it, and we did.

1038
01:38:51,770 --> 01:38:55,190
So that's the first thing we would try to do,

1039
01:38:57,330 --> 01:39:02,730
you know, it could be a possibility of putting a 3-line lap pool in it and using walls on each end.

1040
01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:07,370
But we would just abandon everything that's in the ground and start over.

1041
01:39:09,530 --> 01:39:11,450
What's a construction time?

1042
01:39:12,330 --> 01:39:13,130
Oh, is that where you go?

1043
01:39:13,250 --> 01:39:13,630
I'm sorry.

1044
01:39:20,630 --> 01:39:23,450
So the second part, I know you probably don't have this answer now.

1045
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:33,050
But just if we can find out if you were to do that three lane pool there, you know, with the estimated cost would be.

1046
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:37,070
Just trying to see what we can do to maintain something over that area number one.

1047
01:39:37,290 --> 01:39:40,750
And number two, you know, the spaces there, the site is there.

1048
01:39:40,770 --> 01:39:43,170
What can we do to repurpose that?

1049
01:39:43,630 --> 01:39:48,670
Yeah, I think the demo is something that I'm not sure I could tell you with that cost.

1050
01:39:48,750 --> 01:39:50,990
But I know what to put that pool in would cost.

1051
01:39:50,990 --> 01:39:55,650
And it basically would be the same as putting it in the ground by the Rick Center, really would.

1052
01:39:56,170 --> 01:40:01,130
If we just get a clean sheet of paper to work on, and I like the parking over there.

1053
01:40:01,230 --> 01:40:04,310
If you like the neighborhood, I don't know those deals.

1054
01:40:05,810 --> 01:40:09,190
But if that's a good place for it, I think it could work.

1055
01:40:10,430 --> 01:40:10,930
Mr. Harris.

1056
01:40:13,190 --> 01:40:25,690
So, in your second, the concept one, to that lane addition that you had in, over by the main pool,

1057
01:40:26,230 --> 01:40:29,910
would you redo that then?

1058
01:40:31,850 --> 01:40:38,050
If we decided we wanted to, would you, did you, I hear you say that you would like to redesign

1059
01:40:38,050 --> 01:40:43,010
where that is a part of the main body of water.

1060
01:40:43,490 --> 01:40:45,410
We're redesigned the current pool.

1061
01:40:45,850 --> 01:40:48,070
Yeah, the first one that you gave us, and then,

1062
01:40:48,150 --> 01:40:51,350
if we added the two lane lap to that, would you?

1063
01:40:54,140 --> 01:40:54,720
Next one.

1064
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:55,880
Next one.

1065
01:40:58,750 --> 01:41:01,330
So, if I understand the question right,

1066
01:41:01,650 --> 01:41:04,990
you're asking if we were to design something like this

1067
01:41:04,990 --> 01:41:06,610
with additional lap lanes.

1068
01:41:07,570 --> 01:41:08,450
What would be separated?

1069
01:41:08,450 --> 01:41:15,190
If it's not what you're talking about, keep going in your slideshow, next one, or there.

1070
01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:22,890
So did I hear you say you would redesign so those two latplanes would be a part of the

1071
01:41:22,890 --> 01:41:26,310
main pool and he would take the beach entry out.

1072
01:41:26,530 --> 01:41:27,350
Did I hear that correctly?

1073
01:41:27,410 --> 01:41:33,290
I would separate the beach entry and its system from the whole pool would be my suggestion.

1074
01:41:34,930 --> 01:41:37,130
You're still saying the lap planes would be there,

1075
01:41:37,190 --> 01:41:40,950
but they'd be over at the Recreational Center.

1076
01:41:42,610 --> 01:41:44,250
Or they could be there.

1077
01:41:44,910 --> 01:41:46,210
And no diving board.

1078
01:41:47,450 --> 01:41:53,730
But what I said is that adding lap planes is an afterthought

1079
01:41:53,730 --> 01:41:54,490
to the design.

1080
01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:54,830
Right.

1081
01:41:55,050 --> 01:41:57,130
And so I would probably design that a little differently

1082
01:41:57,130 --> 01:41:58,890
to make that work a little better,

1083
01:41:59,090 --> 01:42:01,290
and other than just be sitting over here.

1084
01:42:01,610 --> 01:42:03,370
But it might be perfect sitting over there.

1085
01:42:03,450 --> 01:42:04,010
It's been so good.

1086
01:42:04,630 --> 01:42:12,910
I said I had to separate somebody of water I take the beach entry and move it away has to be ten feet apart from any other body of water

1087
01:42:12,910 --> 01:42:16,370
and then we'd have a barrier because it's a little pit so we know what I'm in the deeper water.

1088
01:42:19,390 --> 01:42:20,190
Thank you.

1089
01:42:20,370 --> 01:42:21,330
And Mr. Hampton.

1090
01:42:22,030 --> 01:42:22,790
Thank you, Mayor.

1091
01:42:25,470 --> 01:42:28,050
Boy, every time you come, you make it sound so exciting.

1092
01:42:28,050 --> 01:42:36,170
And it is a very exciting matter of fact, I think at the times of me and my granddaughter,

1093
01:42:36,910 --> 01:42:42,850
and my grandkids going to some facilities like this, I just want to make some comments,

1094
01:42:43,110 --> 01:42:49,190
a couple of comments in the war that I live in, you know, there are economically challenged

1095
01:42:49,190 --> 01:42:53,990
families that are there that probably wouldn't be able to take in some of these facilities.

1096
01:42:53,990 --> 01:43:05,130
And I'm on a quest along with probably Councilman Johnson, to try to provide some type

1097
01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:09,790
of water recreation, even if it's just for the especially for the hot summer months,

1098
01:43:10,170 --> 01:43:16,570
for those in my warden problem ward seven, maybe even around the city that can't even pay

1099
01:43:16,570 --> 01:43:22,310
their electric bill during the summer and sometimes can't afford a waiting pool.

1100
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:26,130
So I do want to remind everybody that we do have that

1101
01:43:26,130 --> 01:43:32,730
cross-section of the community that we need to deal with.

1102
01:43:33,070 --> 01:43:35,870
And I am, did you have something that you want to say?

1103
01:43:35,890 --> 01:43:37,090
I would like to address that.

1104
01:43:37,310 --> 01:43:38,770
I'm not done, but you can go ahead.

1105
01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:41,510
I would like to address that.

1106
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:43,090
I appreciate that comment.

1107
01:43:44,510 --> 01:43:48,550
The idea for having some lap lanes over at the Owen Center

1108
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:50,630
sprung from that exact conversation.

1109
01:43:51,390 --> 01:44:05,710
We know that that neighborhood and the surrounding areas is a need of an aquatic option and we thought we're still in the process of finding out exactly what's going on with our current municipal pool.

1110
01:44:07,450 --> 01:44:18,950
But if it ends up not being a feasible project, the addition of some lap lanes and an option in that neighborhood might be an acceptable alternative.

1111
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:20,790
Are you done?

1112
01:44:20,930 --> 01:44:21,450
Yes, sir.

1113
01:44:21,570 --> 01:44:21,730
Okay.

1114
01:44:21,950 --> 01:44:23,330
I'm going to go ahead and finish then.

1115
01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:26,030
I'm sorry.

1116
01:44:26,750 --> 01:44:27,290
I'm sorry.

1117
01:44:27,530 --> 01:44:28,030
I'm sorry.

1118
01:44:28,350 --> 01:44:29,830
I didn't mean to cut you off.

1119
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:30,470
You're fine.

1120
01:44:32,010 --> 01:44:40,650
What I was saying was that I think that there's kind of a mandate to where we kind of try to figure out what we're going to do.

1121
01:44:40,990 --> 01:44:45,410
I know that funding is a big thing and that's the second thing that I want to bring out.

1122
01:44:45,410 --> 01:44:52,230
I know that we could make a war zone of that pool over there, but the cultural preservation

1123
01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:59,330
committee, along with Shipwell, has found that there is some significant historical value

1124
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,100
In that pool, and at this time we're having even getting grants to try to do some things with that pool.

1125
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,660
It would be nice to work with the parks and rent department on those kind of projects.

1126
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:16,580
And I think that Jason Bartermanities, we talked yesterday about him getting with you.

1127
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:29,220
But there are the waiting pools that have been shot down, our older pools, but I do think that it's important as I said earlier about the history of our city.

1128
01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:32,460
And there are money that are available for that.

1129
01:45:32,580 --> 01:45:37,120
And mind you, I want to take my granddaughter to your facilities for

1130
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:42,520
City too, but at the same time, I do feel that, as well as other

1131
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:47,880
council members, that we do need to need to focus in on some of the funds that we

1132
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:54,340
spend to try to focus in on some of those economically challenged families that,

1133
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,080
I mean, some of them don't have vehicles, some of them can't get around.

1134
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:25,780
Some of them, some of them just need a little probably helping hand from the city, so we can't forget those people, and I think that as I press towards saving some of our historical value in the city, which was a war zone, one time they tore down our whole city down down.

1135
01:46:25,780 --> 01:46:34,160
I think it's important that we make sure that we keep that in the background mind, that there is a historical value in some of those things,

1136
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:40,840
whether they be put in museums, that pool that you're talking about actually is a part of Maddieville pool,

1137
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:47,820
which is one of the founding families that founded a lot in that park.

1138
01:46:51,260 --> 01:46:58,220
Secondly, I think that I'm not really wanting to try to bring this up for any discussion,

1139
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:05,320
but just to make sure that everybody understands that the cultural preservation community

1140
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,580
is working very hard to try to put funds together.

1141
01:47:07,860 --> 01:47:16,860
We have some funds that we can do some stuff at the city pool and all of our parks are going

1142
01:47:16,860 --> 01:47:23,360
to be put together as a WPA package to try to put them on their historical, national, historical

1143
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,720
registry and that work is here.

1144
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:35,200
So I just want to comment on those two things that I think of concern that I'm actively

1145
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,700
doing some work on along with some of the other councilpeople.

1146
01:47:38,700 --> 01:47:39,620
Thank you.

1147
01:47:39,620 --> 01:47:53,120
Okay, if we decided today that we wanted to build the 8.25 and put the laptop down at the

1148
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:58,000
Owens, how long's it take to get the plans, how long does it take to get it constructed?

1149
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:03,200
I think you would be doing an RFQ that will probably take two weeks out in the field, two weeks

1150
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,220
for you to decide, so that's one month. You'll take us four and a half to five months with good

1151
01:48:08,220 --> 01:48:13,900
to do the complete design to be able to get builders something in writing that's done well

1152
01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:19,700
that they can bet on equally and have a winner. So I think now we're at six months.

1153
01:48:20,860 --> 01:48:28,160
Maybe seven depending how long that process is and this build is probably eight to twelve months depending on whether.

1154
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:35,640
Okay, so if we decide now we're April or May before we're bidding.

1155
01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:39,380
Then we're how long is the construction?

1156
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,680
You'd be open with something spectacular in 2025.

1157
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:47,600
May 2025.

1158
01:48:49,580 --> 01:48:53,180
We need a definite timeline because this is municipal government.

1159
01:48:53,260 --> 01:48:55,080
We tend to drag things out.

1160
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,380
And we need to, let's do this.

1161
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,460
Can you give me a timeline to be open?

1162
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:04,960
Yes.

1163
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:14,040
I know we won't open on April 1, but I know nothing runs on time, so April 1, 2025, can you give me a timeline?

1164
01:49:14,460 --> 01:49:15,820
You don't have to give it today.

1165
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,480
We haven't actually selected a consultant to start that work yet.

1166
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:25,140
So it's a little unfair that he may be one of the people interviewed for it,

1167
01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:29,120
and it'll be part of their interview process on their timeline, designing stuff.

1168
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:34,520
and he's not, so it's unfair for me to ask the question about the time line?

1169
01:49:34,940 --> 01:49:36,340
Well, he can answer it.

1170
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:38,580
I'm just saying that we haven't selected a consultant yet.

1171
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:45,400
Let me say that the consultants that you'd probably be interviewing with would have the same timeline as us.

1172
01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:47,840
So I'm not giving you WTI.

1173
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,340
I mean, that's what I can honor, but I'm also telling you that's what they take.

1174
01:49:52,900 --> 01:49:54,540
It'll be a fair timeline for anyone.

1175
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,140
So here's what I'm saying.

1176
01:49:56,140 --> 01:50:02,260
From what I'm adding up here, we've got to make this decision, PDQ, don't we?

1177
01:50:02,540 --> 01:50:08,620
If we want to be open for 2025 and that doesn't leave us much leeway, so we've got to

1178
01:50:08,620 --> 01:50:13,180
get with program, so what is it that we need to do today?

1179
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:27,280
We need to get a consultant on board ASAP and we can, all right, can I get a motion to get

1180
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,040
a consultant on board ASAP?

1181
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:38,560
make a motion that we direct staff to do we do an RFP for a consultant or do we just

1182
01:50:42,210 --> 01:50:50,570
we can actually do an invitation type interview or will solicit three to four people and

1183
01:50:50,570 --> 01:50:54,630
we'll put together an interview committee and have them do a presentation and we're selecting that

1184
01:50:54,630 --> 01:51:01,250
way. That's my motion. With with can would you take a friendly amendment with a sense of urgency

1185
01:51:01,250 --> 01:51:03,230
We had that too, motion with the sense of urgency.

1186
01:51:03,230 --> 01:51:04,290
With the sense of urgency.

1187
01:51:04,350 --> 01:51:06,350
Is there a second, except that?

1188
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:07,470
We have a motion, a second.

1189
01:51:07,610 --> 01:51:08,610
Discussion or debate?

1190
01:51:09,550 --> 01:51:10,370
Please vote.

1191
01:51:23,580 --> 01:51:25,020
Motion carries eight to zero.

1192
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:25,880
Thank you, Robbie.

1193
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:28,940
That brings up item 35.

1194
01:51:29,420 --> 01:51:33,980
Consider an amendment to the true North culture statement to include transparency and trust

1195
01:51:33,980 --> 01:51:39,980
as a key component on the statement that take action as deemed necessary.

1196
01:51:39,980 --> 01:51:47,540
Council when we when we did this it was is real nice culture statement but we got to

1197
01:51:47,540 --> 01:51:53,060
talk at about the idea of trust and how it goes with transparency and we wanted the words

1198
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:59,180
transparency in there so don't land came up with this second on your sheet everybody should have a

1199
01:51:59,180 --> 01:52:06,060
sheet and it says transparency and trust we commit to open communication transparency interactions

1200
01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:12,280
and accountable decision-making, we will continually earn and maintain the trust of our citizens.

1201
01:52:12,860 --> 01:52:17,060
I think our world went to her, did just that.

1202
01:52:17,340 --> 01:52:23,260
The citizens that we were able to reach, they like that aggressive transparency, and I think

1203
01:52:23,260 --> 01:52:30,140
we felt trust, but also on the last line, we thought we changed the last line a little bit

1204
01:52:30,140 --> 01:52:35,740
on our pursuit of excellence to say we will not make excuses or settle for in our pursuit

1205
01:52:35,740 --> 01:52:39,080
of excellence, just because it flowed better than what we had.

1206
01:52:39,580 --> 01:52:43,840
So if you agree, we need a motion or be happy to answer any question.

1207
01:52:44,420 --> 01:52:46,620
Have a motion for approval and a second.

1208
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,480
Discussion or debate, please vote, Mr. Mayor.

1209
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:50,660
Yes.

1210
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,180
So along with that transparency and trust and the thing that I've heard time and time

1211
01:52:56,180 --> 01:53:01,420
again over the last couple of weeks is that we're not communicating with the citizens,

1212
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:03,260
the actions that we're taking.

1213
01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:04,680
We're taking good actions.

1214
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:10,360
They agree with their actions, but they don't understand because we haven't so can we include into that

1215
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,600
That we will do better job communicating I

1216
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,380
actually think that

1217
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,020
I really like that

1218
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:35,200
It says we continue to open communication, but we're not doing a very good job right, so I like that and so let's just take no action

1219
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,400
We'll bring it back to you next time

1220
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,640
We'll get done when I'm working on it, okay?

1221
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,200
All right, is there a bit of good with that? No action. All right.

1222
01:53:46,050 --> 01:53:50,710
Well, we did have a motion in a second. So we got to take action.

1223
01:53:50,770 --> 01:53:55,910
We don't just make a supplemental motion to table.

1224
01:53:57,210 --> 01:54:00,650
I'll make a substitute motion to table this until the next meeting.

1225
01:54:01,770 --> 01:54:05,090
We have motion in a second to table. Please vote.

1226
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,940
Much carries eight to zero,

1227
01:54:15,290 --> 01:54:22,430
bringing up 36, consider and take action with respect to an endosement resolution of the city of Lawton.

1228
01:54:23,530 --> 01:54:38,770
Oklahoma, the city, declaring its official intent to approve the incurring of indebtedness by one or more of the public trust of which the city is the beneficiary and one or more series of bonds notes or other evidences of indebtedness.

1229
01:54:38,770 --> 01:54:44,950
to finance all or a portion of the cost of the acquisition, construction, equipping, renovating

1230
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:50,090
and improving of certain capital improvement projects to be located within the city,

1231
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:56,090
as deemed necessary, and containing other provisions relating there to Joe Don.

1232
01:54:56,670 --> 01:55:01,370
Yes, sir. Councillor, I think this autumn falls right in line with your previous

1233
01:55:01,370 --> 01:55:03,990
out of trust and transparency,

1234
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:11,290
but we are asking to your approval to go out for a loan or

1235
01:55:11,290 --> 01:55:18,510
multiple loans on a few of our capital improvement projects. We've got four projects that are

1236
01:55:18,510 --> 01:55:25,550
designed and ready for bid. We need to secure funding for those projects. They are the widening

1237
01:55:25,550 --> 01:55:30,410
of West Gore Boulevard from 67th Street to 82nd Street.

1238
01:55:30,730 --> 01:55:35,610
Good year Boulevard Reconstruction from Lee Boulevard to Cash Road.

1239
01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:40,230
The phase one man out of tooy on the addition in renovation

1240
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:45,770
and the construction of landfill sell six and seven.

1241
01:55:46,670 --> 01:55:51,370
All four of these projects have an estimated total of about $30 million.

1242
01:55:52,750 --> 01:55:56,890
We would like to be able to go out for a loan for these projects.

1243
01:55:57,190 --> 01:56:08,670
They were identified in the current physically budget and slated there to be able to be

1244
01:56:08,670 --> 01:56:12,790
get loan funding to proceed with them.

1245
01:56:16,300 --> 01:56:19,820
I'd be at this point just be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

1246
01:56:19,820 --> 01:56:24,380
I've got Chris Gander and Lynn, Lynn, driver here asking questions.

1247
01:56:31,150 --> 01:56:32,750
I make a motion to approve.

1248
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:41,020
Mayor, since this is a instrument of indebted nestle, require a supermajority.

1249
01:56:41,380 --> 01:56:43,500
Just wanted to put that out before the vote.

1250
01:56:50,740 --> 01:56:51,660
Any questions?

1251
01:56:52,580 --> 01:56:53,460
Let's go.

1252
01:56:58,850 --> 01:56:59,490
8 to 0.

1253
01:56:59,770 --> 01:57:00,190
That's super.

1254
01:57:00,910 --> 01:57:01,450
Thank you, sir.

1255
01:57:01,530 --> 01:57:02,470
We'll get right on it.

1256
01:57:03,290 --> 01:57:03,810
Thank you.

1257
01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:05,630
And according to number 37,

1258
01:57:05,630 --> 01:57:10,790
And, according to the Attorney North statement of providing world-class customer service to our citizens,

1259
01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:15,450
this does LPD support a funeral processions as a general matter.

1260
01:57:15,850 --> 01:57:21,830
Further, discuss a proposed plan of action that addresses issues that have impeded police support

1261
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:23,870
of funeral possessions in the past.

1262
01:57:25,090 --> 01:57:30,510
Consider whether or to approve set policy and adopt any floor amendments, Council deems appropriate.

1263
01:57:30,610 --> 01:57:33,830
And I have John Ratliffe as the information source.

1264
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:54,560
Yes, sir. A couple of weeks ago, I was presented with an issue where I was told that the funeral homes, like when a funeral procession was being requested, funeral homes would go through emergency dispatch is part of their coordination.

1265
01:57:54,560 --> 01:58:00,580
dispatch would contact LPD and tell them whether or not they could support the

1266
01:58:00,580 --> 01:58:06,980
procession and then dispatch would contact the funeral homes. So what it

1267
01:58:06,980 --> 01:58:13,280
had been happening or at least it happened a couple of times was that the funeral

1268
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:19,880
homes were being told that we could support the processions only to be told later

1269
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,080
in the day, that because of a higher priority call,

1270
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,860
that the officers couldn't support the possessions.

1271
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,060
And that was creating issues with the families

1272
01:58:30,060 --> 01:58:31,920
of the deceased.

1273
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,680
And it was also kind of putting the chief

1274
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,740
in a difficult position because he was forced,

1275
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:43,460
or it currently is being forced to decide

1276
01:58:43,860 --> 01:58:46,200
if he's gonna support a procession

1277
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:51,660
or if he's going to have his officers respond to a call.

1278
01:58:52,860 --> 01:59:02,500
So we came up with an idea of having the officers only support

1279
01:59:02,500 --> 01:59:04,080
when they're off duty.

1280
01:59:04,340 --> 01:59:09,160
So there'd be a pool of officers, the funeral homes would be provided

1281
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,280
with the number of a point of contact,

1282
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,420
who they could call if they wanted support.

1283
01:59:14,420 --> 01:59:21,420
And then we wouldn't have to worry about those officers being pulled away because they're

1284
01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:21,940
off duty.

1285
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:29,620
So there wouldn't be any dilemma for the chief to support the call or support the procession

1286
01:59:29,620 --> 01:59:31,580
because the officers are off duty.

1287
01:59:31,900 --> 01:59:36,560
So I think everything up until that point is agreeable.

1288
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:38,920
I think we'd even agree.

1289
01:59:39,140 --> 01:59:40,200
There was a meeting last week.

1290
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:41,260
I was there in attendance.

1291
01:59:41,260 --> 01:59:48,500
but I think all the funeral homes were represented in chief and in Councilman Gil was there.

1292
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:54,920
And I think what they agreed to at this meeting was that the officers would support

1293
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:59,640
off duty, that they would even get paid.

1294
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,820
So a little bit of a fee, which they're not currently getting, but to kind of incentivize participation, we would do that.

1295
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:23,100
But the issue came down to who would cover physical liability in the event, the officers were injured during the funeral procession.

1296
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:32,420
So what we've done previously when presented with the similar issue was we required the private

1297
02:00:32,420 --> 02:00:34,740
organization to provide the insurance.

1298
02:00:35,380 --> 02:00:41,560
A couple of years ago, if you recall, we made our firefighters who were supporting the

1299
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:46,680
Phil the boot campaign, which is the annual campaign that they, I don't know if you guys

1300
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:52,220
still do that, I don't think you do, where they would go out into the meetings and on the

1301
02:00:52,220 --> 02:00:58,180
streets of our city with, you know, their firefighting boots and ask individuals to donate

1302
02:00:58,180 --> 02:01:04,140
for the muscular dystrophy association. Well, the officers were being put in a position

1303
02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:09,000
where they might be injured in the middle of streets, you know, on the side of the street.

1304
02:01:09,660 --> 02:01:16,540
So, in this case, the muscular dystrophy association took out a private insurance policy

1305
02:01:16,540 --> 02:01:23,400
for the firefighters, so in the event that they were injured, that burden wouldn't be passed

1306
02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:31,120
on to the taxpayers. So I think it's a similar thought process here. My understanding

1307
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:38,160
is that the funeral homes don't support that course of action, but that's where we're at.

1308
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:44,140
Mr. Gill, do you have anything you want to add to that? You were in the meeting.

1309
02:01:46,930 --> 02:01:53,110
Well, I'll say that it seemed like the funeral homes were pretty much on board.

1310
02:01:53,290 --> 02:01:58,870
We'll hear from the, except for the insurance problem, which I made a suggestion that they

1311
02:01:58,870 --> 02:02:04,750
check with their insurance carrier and see that that wouldn't be a easily solved problem

1312
02:02:04,750 --> 02:02:11,170
from the fact that they had workmen's comp already in place and they're going to be issuing

1313
02:02:11,770 --> 02:02:17,030
either at a 1099 or they're going to put them on a W2, one way or the other, but their

1314
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:19,390
insurance should cover that and I haven't had a report back.

1315
02:02:19,470 --> 02:02:22,010
I think the chief might have been going to look at that also.

1316
02:02:23,770 --> 02:02:25,190
So that's kind of where we were at.

1317
02:02:25,470 --> 02:02:28,530
Everything else seemed to be pretty good with the exception of the insurance issue.

1318
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:38,480
And so the only concern is that the charge for the officer is not a concern.

1319
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:44,580
The concern is who's covering the insurance if the officer is injured, right?

1320
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:45,700
Yes, yeah.

1321
02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:47,120
That's right, Mayor.

1322
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:47,520
Okay.

1323
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:53,640
Would you like to come up and speak and give us your name and address and also who you're representing?

1324
02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:54,520
Okay.

1325
02:02:54,780 --> 02:02:56,200
My name is Linda Newsome.

1326
02:02:56,340 --> 02:02:58,320
My address is 3103.

1327
02:02:58,380 --> 02:03:00,660
North East Heritage Drive in Lawton, Oklahoma.

1328
02:03:00,660 --> 02:03:09,100
I was at that meeting, and we're not in a grants on the charging of, of, of escorts.

1329
02:03:09,460 --> 02:03:15,420
First and foremost, I'd like to thank the Lawton Police Department, their services to our community are astounding,

1330
02:03:15,980 --> 02:03:18,900
and they're always there for us, and we appreciate that.

1331
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:24,520
But I do have concerns of paying escorts.

1332
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:32,960
One is that I, as a lot in Rittergride funeral home, I'm the funeral director there, and I'm also the managing partner there.

1333
02:03:33,820 --> 02:03:39,000
I cannot absorb that cost. I will have to pass that cost on to my families.

1334
02:03:40,060 --> 02:03:44,780
So one of the concerns I have is, what about the families that can afford that?

1335
02:03:44,900 --> 02:03:47,340
Are we going to tell them that they no longer have an escort?

1336
02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:52,740
I know that everyone here is either been in a procession, been in the back of one of those

1337
02:03:52,740 --> 02:03:58,560
cars in the family car, and they've had an escort, and so that's come from the city

1338
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,320
of Loughton.

1339
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:04,080
So the second is, what if I have a family that can pay that?

1340
02:04:04,380 --> 02:04:10,500
Do you have enough officers that are off duty at the time to accommodate me and accommodate

1341
02:04:10,500 --> 02:04:12,620
any other funeral home that needs an escort?

1342
02:04:12,620 --> 02:04:19,160
I understand that they'll be 2S courts for every funeral up to 25 cars was the proposal.

1343
02:04:21,700 --> 02:04:24,940
It's not something that there's problems there.

1344
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:27,420
There's going to be problems whether we pay the S-course.

1345
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:31,560
I wish we could pay everyone, but that is going to be passed over to our families.

1346
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:36,980
Not every family can't afford that, and so I don't know what the answers are.

1347
02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:42,600
I think there's a different way, hopefully, to solve this problem without any additional

1348
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:50,220
cost to the families. I don't know what the answer is, but I'm not in in favor of it. I

1349
02:04:50,220 --> 02:04:56,380
realize that that's possibly where we may be headed. Whatever the city decides to do, we'll

1350
02:04:56,380 --> 02:05:03,700
abide by that. If you change the protocol on that, we'll abide by that. We're law. We follow

1351
02:05:03,700 --> 02:05:11,760
the law. I just wanted to thank you for visiting with me and letting me tell you that I'm not in.

1352
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:13,100
of clients.

1353
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:13,460
Okay.

1354
02:05:13,500 --> 02:05:16,760
Why don't you just have a seat on the front row with my one ask you a question.

1355
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,520
Amber, would you need your name, address, and how you represent?

1356
02:05:21,180 --> 02:05:25,860
Amber, I'm a voice 62-10 Northwest Cache Road, I'm with when I had a computer home.

1357
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:27,080
I'm an FDIC there.

1358
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:32,620
I first and foremost want to start off by saying that I am not aware of any off duty police

1359
02:05:32,620 --> 02:05:36,660
officer that provides and a police escort that doesn't unpaid.

1360
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:37,680
These are services.

1361
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,800
Our police officers are very valuable, their time is valuable.

1362
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:42,620
And they pick up a lot of shifts.

1363
02:05:42,900 --> 02:05:45,200
I know that we are a short staff in the police department.

1364
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:51,820
I am 100% for paying these officers for taking on this responsibility on their own personal time.

1365
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:52,960
That's first and foremost.

1366
02:05:53,140 --> 02:05:58,680
Norman pays Oklahoma City pays more a pays every large municipality pays.

1367
02:05:59,300 --> 02:06:02,980
As far as passing the cost off on to the families,

1368
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:11,560
funeral homes have things called honorariums, families pay ministers to speak at

1369
02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:19,560
funerals. Linda manages a cemetery that charges a setting fee, I believe, or an

1370
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:25,200
administrative fee if you don't buy your outer burial liner from her. That's just a

1371
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:30,620
fee, they're just matter of fact. If the families do not want to pay for the police

1372
02:06:30,620 --> 02:06:37,960
escort, then we can have them meet us there safely, and we go under the assumption that we

1373
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:38,880
do not have an escort.

1374
02:06:39,180 --> 02:06:42,960
We follow traffic laws just like they do when they drive anywhere else within the city.

1375
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:51,120
The problem that everyone has collectively, I guess, had an issue with is the insurance.

1376
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:59,080
Our argument on that is by providing the escort, the officers are still providing a service

1377
02:06:59,080 --> 02:06:59,860
to the community.

1378
02:06:59,860 --> 02:07:11,140
It's very dangerous when you have a 40 cars driving in a procession and there's other people on the road.

1379
02:07:11,900 --> 02:07:21,980
So I feel like even though they're doing this privately off duty, it's not the same as if they were a balancer for an establishment.

1380
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:29,740
They're still providing a service to the community when they're off work and getting a stipend for it.

1381
02:07:29,740 --> 02:07:38,780
So I respectfully feel that the liability should still go on the city because that is a service even

1382
02:07:38,780 --> 02:07:41,140
off duty that they are providing to the city.

1383
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:44,250
Chris.

1384
02:07:50,970 --> 02:07:53,970
And go ahead and give us your name address and I think you represent.

1385
02:07:54,270 --> 02:07:55,310
Chris Raybond.

1386
02:07:55,390 --> 02:07:57,790
I represent the Becker Raybond funeral home.

1387
02:07:58,030 --> 02:08:02,630
I live at 1106 northwest layered here in Latin.

1388
02:08:04,770 --> 02:08:11,350
I do just want to thank all of you as council members for taking this on the day.

1389
02:08:11,590 --> 02:08:14,710
When I pulled out of my parking lot at the funeral home today, there's been a pothold

1390
02:08:14,710 --> 02:08:18,990
that's been there for probably the last 10 years and it's grown deeper and deeper.

1391
02:08:19,970 --> 02:08:21,710
And today it was filled in.

1392
02:08:22,030 --> 02:08:26,570
And so I didn't know if you were anticipating me coming and speaking to you or exactly what

1393
02:08:26,570 --> 02:08:27,310
that looked like.

1394
02:08:27,310 --> 02:08:34,030
But I do want to thank the appropriate people for that.

1395
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:38,850
And I do want to thank the Lawton Police Department for the support

1396
02:08:38,850 --> 02:08:41,330
that they have provided through the years.

1397
02:08:41,670 --> 02:08:47,830
Mr. Rally, I'm going to give you a little different history

1398
02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:52,510
on funeral escorts because I think in to some degree,

1399
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:57,810
There's kind of been a mischaracterization of how that comes about.

1400
02:08:59,010 --> 02:09:03,130
I have worked as a funeral director in this community since 1986,

1401
02:09:04,530 --> 02:09:13,670
and we have battled this issue of how to provide escorts for funerals

1402
02:09:13,670 --> 02:09:15,850
since prior to that time.

1403
02:09:16,230 --> 02:09:21,110
And the police department has done an excellent job of attempting to do that

1404
02:09:21,110 --> 02:09:27,230
for every citizen, but as we know that there are situations that occur occasionally, that

1405
02:09:27,230 --> 02:09:31,030
preclude them from being able to fulfill their obligation there.

1406
02:09:32,170 --> 02:09:36,590
The police department has, through the years, tried to come up with some creative ways

1407
02:09:36,590 --> 02:09:37,990
to provide that.

1408
02:09:38,110 --> 02:09:43,150
One of our chiefs, a number of years ago, established the Sentinel Program, which were a group

1409
02:09:43,150 --> 02:09:43,890
of volunteers.

1410
02:09:44,630 --> 02:09:49,230
Every guy's dream is to have a car with lights and sirens and be able to go through town.

1411
02:09:49,230 --> 02:09:54,450
and they provided a great service to our community.

1412
02:09:55,590 --> 02:09:59,010
But it's also difficult to get volunteers to do things.

1413
02:09:59,390 --> 02:10:03,230
And so we've seen that program diminish over the last few years.

1414
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:08,290
And I would ask in a moment for you to give some clarification

1415
02:10:08,290 --> 02:10:13,990
on the insurance liability for those individuals versus what

1416
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:16,570
we're proposing to do here if you don't mind.

1417
02:10:16,570 --> 02:10:22,870
But, what do you ask in now, what's the liability for the sentinels?

1418
02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:23,610
Yes.

1419
02:10:26,980 --> 02:10:29,140
There's no city liability for volunteers.

1420
02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:31,120
Then how are they ensured?

1421
02:10:34,790 --> 02:10:39,990
But, yeah, you give them a car with lights and sirens and they're able to provide an escort for a funeral.

1422
02:10:43,020 --> 02:10:44,840
I don't give them anything.

1423
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:47,520
I mean, Chief, do you want to comment on this?

1424
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:52,660
Do you want to, I mean, our sentinels allow to use police cars and police equipment?

1425
02:10:52,660 --> 02:10:53,580
I

1426
02:10:58,120 --> 02:10:59,840
sure hope not.

1427
02:11:10,060 --> 02:11:20,820
Our signals have been able to drive police vehicles, but what they've been able to do is go out and take

1428
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:29,540
minor reports, minor accidents, and they have provided traffic control from time to time.

1429
02:11:29,540 --> 02:11:33,220
And yes, they have DSMS courts.

1430
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:42,500
As he was talking about, and we're just having the hard time getting volunteers to do that.

1431
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:44,360
And one time, we had about 10 or 12.

1432
02:11:44,980 --> 02:11:48,560
Now, we have probably about two or three active signals.

1433
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:56,580
And Chief, is it fair to say that most of those individuals are fairly senior?

1434
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,140
So, Tim, address that.

1435
02:12:06,980 --> 02:12:12,520
So, I'm familiar with the Sentinel program and I'm on this question of what do we do

1436
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:13,280
insurance for them?

1437
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:19,400
My thoughts would be, they're volunteers, so they're not city employees, so they're not

1438
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:26,320
covered by any type of workers' comp in that regard to the city itself with its vehicles.

1439
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:33,480
I think recently, we might under OMAG have insurance for damage to our vehicles, but prior

1440
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,380
to that, I think we were just self-insured.

1441
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:42,040
So if a vehicle was a police car was damaged and accident, the city would absorb the cost

1442
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:42,520
itself.

1443
02:12:45,370 --> 02:12:49,210
I don't think we care about the car.

1444
02:12:49,210 --> 02:12:51,350
I think we're interested in the individual.

1445
02:12:51,550 --> 02:12:57,230
If he gets hurt or killed, who's someone's going to be liable or not?

1446
02:12:57,230 --> 02:13:05,690
And if so, so my understanding on that is they are not city employees so they're not covered under workers caught by the city.

1447
02:13:08,540 --> 02:13:17,380
Okay, well at present they would be because at present there is the funeral homes have no insurance policy.

1448
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:26,880
They don't pay for these individuals to do the service so they're doing this all as city employees.

1449
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:31,620
And that's part of my, or has been part of my

1450
02:13:31,620 --> 02:13:36,720
contention the whole time is, it's unfair to shift that burden to the tax payers.

1451
02:13:40,260 --> 02:13:41,460
Go ahead, Mr. Go.

1452
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:48,220
I had the question, and I believe when you started, you said something a little bit different

1453
02:13:48,220 --> 02:13:53,080
than what we discussed in the meeting about a week ago, and that was our pure cities.

1454
02:13:53,300 --> 02:13:59,520
Now, we don't have to do everything our pure cities do, so that's not a

1455
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:02,400
of ultimate situation.

1456
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:07,240
But it is good to reflect to our peer cities

1457
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:11,700
and see what they're doing to see things that we're doing here

1458
02:14:11,700 --> 02:14:15,380
are fair where our pays at and these types of matters.

1459
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,220
So we were going to refer to the peer cities

1460
02:14:18,220 --> 02:14:20,780
and I thought I was, or I thought I heard in that meeting

1461
02:14:20,780 --> 02:14:27,140
last week, that Oklahoma City and Norma used policemen

1462
02:14:27,140 --> 02:14:28,380
that were off duty.

1463
02:14:28,380 --> 02:14:35,140
therefore they were paid by the funeral home or by the family, but someone at a certain

1464
02:14:35,140 --> 02:14:41,380
right, but we still had the insurance issue in hand and maybe you have an answer for sure.

1465
02:14:44,990 --> 02:14:49,870
So, I kind of got you off on a tangent when I was talking about the Sentinel program.

1466
02:14:54,270 --> 02:14:59,870
But City Code used to require the funeral homes to notify and request a police escort.

1467
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:15,160
And our prior to the time that escort was needed. And that was kind of challenging sometimes, because you'd call at the beginning of a funeral, or 30 minutes before a funeral started, and you'd try to guess when that escort was needed.

1468
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:20,520
The city did a great job trying to accommodate this, but that was very short notice.

1469
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:27,960
And so she Smith, a number of years ago, we had a similar meeting and he established a policy

1470
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:33,940
where we would call dispatch the evening prior to a funeral service and we would actually

1471
02:15:33,940 --> 02:15:39,880
schedule that event and we were not promised an escort at that particular point in time.

1472
02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:45,240
So to say that that was something that was promised is a mischaracterization.

1473
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:50,760
But we were told that if the city could provide an escort, one would be available.

1474
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:57,200
It is not uncommon occasionally from time to time that when a funeral ends and I have

1475
02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:01,140
reached the appointed time that I need that escort that one does not appear.

1476
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:09,140
It's not a situation that is catastrophic, it's just simply one where we have to inform

1477
02:16:09,140 --> 02:16:14,160
a family that we've called for an escort, we've checked again with dispatch, and they

1478
02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:20,460
have no units available because they've had something that takes priority over us, which

1479
02:16:20,460 --> 02:16:21,860
certainly understandable.

1480
02:16:22,900 --> 02:16:29,300
And so then we abide by the remainder of the city code, which is just simply to make our

1481
02:16:29,300 --> 02:16:35,460
way to the cemetery in a safe manner, we're required to adhere to the traffic signals and

1482
02:16:35,460 --> 02:16:42,400
traffic laws, and you get there and you delay and then everybody gets there, most of the time

1483
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:43,300
without incident.

1484
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:45,480
You're driving on city streets,

1485
02:16:45,580 --> 02:16:47,720
so there's always an opportunity for something

1486
02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:49,380
for something to happen.

1487
02:16:51,590 --> 02:16:54,410
The swimming pool presentation a moment ago

1488
02:16:54,410 --> 02:16:57,430
is not unlike any other presentation

1489
02:16:57,430 --> 02:17:02,790
where it starts with pitch

1490
02:17:03,310 --> 02:17:05,830
and then you get to price.

1491
02:17:07,450 --> 02:17:10,370
And Linda says she wishes you'd take that million dollars

1492
02:17:10,370 --> 02:17:11,910
for the LAP pool and just use it

1493
02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:13,190
to provide funeral escorts,

1494
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:15,690
but that probably isn't going to happen.

1495
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:26,940
So I shared some statistics that I had last week with the chief and some of the others who were present at the meeting that we had.

1496
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:33,500
And, you know, sometimes you go, you go day to day and you just things become routine,

1497
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,480
and you don't really give consideration to things.

1498
02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:41,040
And so I thought, well, I wonder how many escorts we have requested.

1499
02:17:41,340 --> 02:17:47,400
And so I instructed my staff to go back and kind of look at some things and looked at

1500
02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:51,520
the year 2021 first, which was our COVID year.

1501
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:55,560
And we talk about pure cities.

1502
02:17:56,580 --> 02:18:03,400
I will tell you that our city was unique in the way that we dealt with COVID, because there

1503
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:09,320
a number of cities that began to diminish the number of people who could attend funerals.

1504
02:18:10,120 --> 02:18:16,340
And our city was one that remained at a number, I think, 10 was the number we settled on,

1505
02:18:16,440 --> 02:18:19,680
but it was a number that allowed people to continue to have funerals.

1506
02:18:20,420 --> 02:18:23,900
And you led in that, you didn't follow, you led.

1507
02:18:24,260 --> 02:18:27,820
And I would encourage you, as we look at this matter, that you lead.

1508
02:18:27,820 --> 02:18:30,500
So how much longer is your present?

1509
02:18:30,680 --> 02:18:31,960
Not long, okay.

1510
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:38,560
So in 2021, I requested 255 escorts from our firm.

1511
02:18:39,160 --> 02:18:43,080
And I think that probably you could take that number

1512
02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:45,780
and double or triple that number.

1513
02:18:46,660 --> 02:18:49,600
In 2022, I requested 181.

1514
02:18:49,640 --> 02:18:51,440
That's a drop of 10%.

1515
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:55,400
The number is on track this year to do the same,

1516
02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:59,480
where we'll probably wind up somewhere around 200 escorts.

1517
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:06,520
And so that means that there is somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 to 600 escorts requested

1518
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:07,500
every year.

1519
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:14,240
You take that number and you multiply at times 125, and the city's recommendation of having

1520
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:21,240
two escorts for every funeral, and you wind up with a number of about $92,000 that you're

1521
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:23,940
adding to the cost of funerals in this community.

1522
02:19:25,300 --> 02:19:27,060
That's all that I have to say.

1523
02:19:27,860 --> 02:19:28,900
Okay, thank you for coming.

1524
02:19:29,540 --> 02:19:30,060
Mr. Mayor.

1525
02:19:31,720 --> 02:19:33,140
Hold on for me just a minute.

1526
02:19:33,940 --> 02:19:36,960
Okay, we're really, we really don't want to get in our rebut situation.

1527
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:40,980
Do you just, if you just have something you want to add, that's fine.

1528
02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:45,080
I just want to add this.

1529
02:19:45,600 --> 02:19:49,540
We, we, lot in as unique in the fact that we're close to the military installation.

1530
02:19:50,500 --> 02:19:54,740
A large, I would say, half of our services go to law enforcement.

1531
02:19:55,700 --> 02:20:00,320
I'm sorry to Elgen, to Latin, to Fort Hill National Cemetery.

1532
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,180
These are men and women who have served our country.

1533
02:20:04,980 --> 02:20:11,960
The very least that we can do is provide them a police escort to their final resting place.

1534
02:20:12,140 --> 02:20:16,740
I think that is really important as a community that we support that.

1535
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,600
It portrays the police officers in a good light,

1536
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:26,960
And it just gives that appearance that,

1537
02:20:29,110 --> 02:20:29,390
I don't know,

1538
02:20:29,610 --> 02:20:32,550
it's just important to me that we provide that.

1539
02:20:32,670 --> 02:20:35,070
For that, these are our veterans, and they deserve it.

1540
02:20:35,350 --> 02:20:38,210
And however that looks, rather, that's paying a fee,

1541
02:20:38,390 --> 02:20:39,670
that's not paying a fee.

1542
02:20:40,110 --> 02:20:42,590
You guys all work really hard, the chief works hard.

1543
02:20:42,810 --> 02:20:46,590
I don't think anybody here wanted to create any type of

1544
02:20:46,590 --> 02:20:49,370
extra headache or anything for anybody.

1545
02:20:49,610 --> 02:20:53,530
But I would rather go back to just doing it as is,

1546
02:20:53,530 --> 02:20:56,430
If we all can't come to agreement, I don't want it to be an argument and I don't want it to

1547
02:20:56,430 --> 02:21:03,390
be, you know, any contention, but I do think that if nothing else prioritizing police

1548
02:21:03,390 --> 02:21:05,110
escort at least for our veterans.

1549
02:21:05,870 --> 02:21:06,350
Thank you.

1550
02:21:07,010 --> 02:21:07,530
Mr. Chair.

1551
02:21:08,030 --> 02:21:11,550
I wanted to get off into the weeds just a little bit and ask a couple questions.

1552
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:19,310
Chief, if we go to off duty officers, are we going to have enough volunteers to provide

1553
02:21:19,310 --> 02:21:20,130
this service?

1554
02:21:20,930 --> 02:21:29,270
I don't know if we have enough, we did a poll, and right now we have, I think, about nine to 12

1555
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:33,110
officers that are willing to do it off duty.

1556
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:38,470
It could be a pretty significant source of extra income.

1557
02:21:39,790 --> 02:21:39,870
Correct.

1558
02:21:40,290 --> 02:21:40,490
Okay.

1559
02:21:40,930 --> 02:21:41,930
Thank you very much.

1560
02:21:42,210 --> 02:21:46,270
Amber, I wanted to agree with you, and I had this conversation with the city manager.

1561
02:21:47,650 --> 02:21:55,670
I don't know which side I fall on, but in looking at our true North statement, this is

1562
02:21:55,670 --> 02:22:03,630
our last act to anyone who's leaving this community in that way, and maybe

1563
02:22:06,540 --> 02:22:08,200
it's just the

1564
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:13,980
right thing to do to provide this service, I'm not advocating for it against, but I just

1565
02:22:13,980 --> 02:22:15,040
wanted to throw that out.

1566
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:23,780
thought about it a lot, and whenever the time comes that I go, it'd be nice to have been thought of enough that they said,

1567
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:34,560
yeah, let's honor Mr. Harris or say goodbye to him either way, and give this escort, you know, that's, that's my point.

1568
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:35,520
Mr. Weaker.

1569
02:22:38,380 --> 02:22:46,300
Mayor City Council, when I earlier the statement was made, we put a liability burden upon the

1570
02:22:46,300 --> 02:22:53,320
taxpayers. I think we need to look at this. You're putting a burden from a community setting,

1571
02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:58,940
a police setting. You're putting that burden on the deceased. Who also is a taxpayer?

1572
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:08,180
So I don't think that argument would hold up. I don't think looking at having said in the

1573
02:23:08,180 --> 02:23:15,120
lead car for the past 26 years off and on to these funerals to say, well this is a liability

1574
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:22,920
we don't want to assume. I think it has to go back to world-class customer service, looking at

1575
02:23:22,920 --> 02:23:32,560
efficiency from our north statement. Not sure this is the solution. Do we need to do something?

1576
02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:41,580
Yes, there's been many times we have gone to the different grave sites of the deceased without police

1577
02:23:41,580 --> 02:23:49,240
sports, and we understand why, but we've got to find something that does work for all parties

1578
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:52,040
involved, even the deceased taxpayer.

1579
02:23:55,390 --> 02:23:59,030
I shouldn't in any of that, or if no, okay, I'm just trying to.

1580
02:24:00,660 --> 02:24:01,640
Thank you, Mayor.

1581
02:24:02,900 --> 02:24:12,000
I tune like Councilwoman Wigger have been to a lot of funerals, and our churches are fairly

1582
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:21,160
size, size, bold church, and I've written in a lot of processions, a lot of not to

1583
02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:29,960
fortill and there's an open end to this because if the funeral home doesn't want to

1584
02:24:29,960 --> 02:24:39,040
pay then there's no escort and I was thinking about this and I'm thinking that on

1585
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:47,100
on said, Chris gave an information on why a police escort started, but it can be kind of dangerous.

1586
02:24:49,020 --> 02:24:53,800
And I've commented many times where we're going down the highway out to Fort Hill, and some

1587
02:24:54,380 --> 02:24:57,960
kid or individual is just speeding by the procession.

1588
02:24:58,100 --> 02:24:59,720
I mean, just had a high rate of speed.

1589
02:25:00,260 --> 02:25:03,260
And I'm thinking somebody needs to check that person right there.

1590
02:25:04,860 --> 02:25:09,860
I am a veteran, a respect and honor of the big thing to me.

1591
02:25:09,860 --> 02:25:18,940
I do think that when we're turning in to the cemetery, I would force the sheriff to

1592
02:25:20,020 --> 02:25:23,100
take over the lead at that time.

1593
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:31,540
He gets out of his car, he stands at attention and salutes as the car goes by, and I like

1594
02:25:31,540 --> 02:25:36,420
that. It means a lot to me as a veteran,

1595
02:25:38,460 --> 02:25:43,560
that's a soldier in arms, and I just like that.

1596
02:25:44,640 --> 02:25:49,740
So again, I don't really know what the solution is, but I'm going to tell you what I do

1597
02:25:49,740 --> 02:26:01,000
think for safety reasons and for reasons of honor, I think that as a councilman here in

1598
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:08,820
I think that we need to provide escort to every funeral from my experience and, like I said,

1599
02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:12,880
I don't know how that can be done, whether it's sitting else, whether it's something else,

1600
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:17,920
but I do think that that is a vital thing when we bury people.

1601
02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:19,540
And

1602
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:28,660
I'm just going to say that I deal with a lot of families because I don't preach most

1603
02:26:28,660 --> 02:26:34,360
the sermons but I do set up the agenda for the funerals, I have to talk to the families

1604
02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:39,240
about the songs that they want played, which are special songs that they pick, I have

1605
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:45,180
to talk about things that they want to say and things they want to do during that last

1606
02:26:45,180 --> 02:26:52,340
right. And that's a very serious, serious time for that family. And I'm going to tell you a lot

1607
02:26:52,340 --> 02:26:57,640
Sometimes those families are not with it, they are really out of it.

1608
02:26:58,060 --> 02:27:03,660
And rightfully so, that was a very, very high stress, tragic time in their life.

1609
02:27:04,340 --> 02:27:11,300
And I think that they feel like there's some bit of security with having an officer with

1610
02:27:11,300 --> 02:27:11,600
him.

1611
02:27:11,880 --> 02:27:20,580
So, I just wanted to make those comments as somebody that is very active in that business.

1612
02:27:29,130 --> 02:27:39,910
I just wanted to say, I think what I'm hearing here is that yes, number one, we need to provide as many escorts as we can, so that's not a problem on either end.

1613
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:51,170
Number two, I think if we incentivize or try to find some type of funding for the Sentinel program, specifically for escorts, we may be able to get more.

1614
02:27:51,170 --> 02:27:57,490
And then also, as a contractor myself, I know that when I'm providing a service to my clients,

1615
02:27:58,110 --> 02:28:02,070
I have to have personal insurance to have them in my car.

1616
02:28:02,450 --> 02:28:09,990
Maybe when we look at how to incentivize that program, then maybe some reimbursement or something

1617
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:12,470
for those that are providing that service.

1618
02:28:12,810 --> 02:28:18,870
In addition to those 9 to 12, hopefully more police officers that are willing to provide

1619
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:19,310
escort.

1620
02:28:19,310 --> 02:28:27,610
So, I think when we look at the overall picture, the issue is making sure the safety of

1621
02:28:27,610 --> 02:28:30,390
these professionals are happening.

1622
02:28:30,910 --> 02:28:36,190
So, I just wanted to say that and perhaps maybe this needs to go back to the committee that

1623
02:28:36,190 --> 02:28:40,090
was looking at it so we can kind of maybe look at some of those things because this is vitally

1624
02:28:40,090 --> 02:28:40,930
important.

1625
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:42,190
Ms. Hygent.

1626
02:28:46,740 --> 02:28:47,320
There we go.

1627
02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:51,120
I know what I want, I don't always get it as you can see.

1628
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:57,800
But I will say that I don't know how we can do this exactly.

1629
02:28:58,540 --> 02:29:02,260
But I would like to continue with escorts.

1630
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,740
I love the history of it.

1631
02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:08,440
I just have a sense of pride.

1632
02:29:08,860 --> 02:29:11,230
I want people to pull over for a funeral procession.

1633
02:29:12,020 --> 02:29:14,480
I mean, I won't mention my age again,

1634
02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:16,180
because I've been doing that a lot lately.

1635
02:29:16,520 --> 02:29:19,120
But I kind of go back to the respect and

1636
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:27,000
And how good that feels when you're in a procession, and you see people stopping to respect the person who passed away.

1637
02:29:27,620 --> 02:29:35,040
And that's still real important to me. I wish it was important to younger people too, because I think it's a wonderful tradition.

1638
02:29:35,440 --> 02:29:41,220
Now I don't know how the city manager's going to get it done though, so that's not my problem, right?

1639
02:29:44,140 --> 02:29:59,920
I will make a motion that we continue to provide escorts that we do on an off-duty basis that those officers are compensated in that the city finds.

1640
02:30:05,530 --> 02:30:15,370
I'm a little bit confused about how they're off duty if we're paying them. Okay. I will amend that to say that.

1641
02:30:32,130 --> 02:30:34,550
Well, the city is paying the officer right now,

1642
02:30:38,180 --> 02:30:45,960
but at certain times there are not, we do not have officers escorting, correct, Chris Lane.

1643
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:48,420
So, hold on for a minute.

1644
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:51,280
Can I get clarification of the current policy?

1645
02:30:55,070 --> 02:30:55,610
Yes, Mayor.

1646
02:30:55,790 --> 02:31:01,810
The current policy is that the officers are paid by the city.

1647
02:31:01,810 --> 02:31:11,030
We provide, they're in uniform, we provide all the equipment, and they are covered under our

1648
02:31:11,030 --> 02:31:13,690
general liability workmen's compensation.

1649
02:31:14,210 --> 02:31:16,350
So that is the current way things stand.

1650
02:31:16,450 --> 02:31:21,830
And we provide as possible, yes, subject to higher priority calls.

1651
02:31:22,150 --> 02:31:24,450
Is your motion to continue that policy?

1652
02:31:34,390 --> 02:31:42,050
No, my motion is that we use off duty officers for that.

1653
02:31:42,470 --> 02:31:42,530
Okay.

1654
02:31:42,790 --> 02:31:49,190
So you're making the motion to change the policy, the off duty officers,

1655
02:31:49,710 --> 02:31:51,350
and the city absorb the insurance.

1656
02:31:52,250 --> 02:31:53,490
That is exactly my motion.

1657
02:31:53,650 --> 02:31:55,110
We have a motion on the floor.

1658
02:31:55,370 --> 02:31:56,090
Is there a second?

1659
02:32:00,290 --> 02:32:00,970
You would include.

1660
02:32:07,300 --> 02:32:07,680
Oh no.

1661
02:32:10,220 --> 02:32:13,220
What all you're thinking we're going to let Tim speak.

1662
02:32:13,820 --> 02:32:18,700
Okay, so we would just need clarification on the motion, that's where I'm trying to ask

1663
02:32:18,700 --> 02:32:23,640
what the motion is for off duty officers to do it, and the city to pay for it, like

1664
02:32:23,640 --> 02:32:30,720
the mayor said, that when we use an off duty officer in the city pays for it, they become

1665
02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:31,520
on duty.

1666
02:32:32,860 --> 02:32:38,340
So if we're going to go that route, then it would be some type of incentive program to

1667
02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:45,840
to realize, rather than the regular staff that's on duty, but when they're doing the service,

1668
02:32:46,260 --> 02:32:47,300
they're going to be on duty.

1669
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:57,700
Yes, I concur, and that was my intent, that we, that they would be working for us, providing

1670
02:32:57,700 --> 02:32:58,260
the service.

1671
02:32:58,960 --> 02:33:02,600
However, it would be, I guess it would be over time.

1672
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:08,820
So we'd have to adjust the budget to include that figure.

1673
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:13,520
Okay, so we'll have to find that and maybe we can't do that this year, maybe we can do it next year.

1674
02:33:13,780 --> 02:33:16,700
Councilman Harris, if that's where you're wanting to go, I'd recommend that you,

1675
02:33:16,940 --> 02:33:20,540
we may be direct staff to look at that type of policy,

1676
02:33:20,820 --> 02:33:25,320
so we could, if we need to develop it rather than say to make it going to effect right now,

1677
02:33:25,540 --> 02:33:27,600
because there's things we have to look at.

1678
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:34,900
I believe we have our police contract, and if I remember correctly, unless it's changed, when

1679
02:33:34,900 --> 02:33:41,620
we call an officer in off duty, that's a minimum of two hours of overtime, unless that

1680
02:33:41,620 --> 02:33:45,820
is changed, so we have some collective bargaining things that we have to be looked at.

1681
02:33:47,300 --> 02:33:49,120
That's exactly what I meant to say.

1682
02:33:50,380 --> 02:33:57,500
Okay, so would you please restate what Mr. Harris' motion is supposed to be?

1683
02:33:57,980 --> 02:34:03,820
So if I understand what Councilman Harris is saying, I think would be move to direct staff

1684
02:34:03,820 --> 02:34:11,580
to look at bringing back in the future a potential policy or something to that effect where

1685
02:34:11,580 --> 02:34:18,820
we would utilize officers as an incentive program who are off duty that would come on

1686
02:34:18,820 --> 02:34:29,680
to provide escorts for funerals. Is there a second? Is there a second? If we're paying

1687
02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:34,960
them the insurance is paid by us? I have a question. I do too.

1688
02:34:35,480 --> 02:34:43,360
Okay, Ms. Chapman was first. How many accidents do we have when there are escorting?

1689
02:34:47,020 --> 02:34:54,240
that number is hard to say. How many accidents that we can. I mean, father escorting a funeral

1690
02:34:55,500 --> 02:35:04,560
procession. I don't have that number. Do we have there's been a few, but I don't have

1691
02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:08,760
that hard number for you. I can research and get it for you.

1692
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:14,500
Do any of the human directors have that information?

1693
02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:17,340
The other question I had was,

1694
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:21,920
have any of you look at what your costs would be

1695
02:35:21,920 --> 02:35:26,940
if you had to pay for your fleet insurers or however it would be

1696
02:35:26,940 --> 02:35:32,060
to pay for the insurance for off duty drivers?

1697
02:35:32,960 --> 02:35:33,540
Please drivers.

1698
02:35:34,540 --> 02:35:36,220
When is it astronomical?

1699
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:40,160
Is it have any of you required about that?

1700
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:47,080
Basically, if you call your insurance agent and ask how much this is going to cost, no, okay

1701
02:35:48,460 --> 02:35:50,120
You have called

1702
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:02,080
come up to the microphone for space. We've got a def mayor

1703
02:36:05,320 --> 02:36:06,880
Christian Coral

1704
02:36:08,500 --> 02:36:09,100
244

1705
02:36:09,100 --> 02:36:11,800
North East Eagle Road when within a heddles in funeral service

1706
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:16,260
Our insurance covers the workings come on

1707
02:36:16,260 --> 02:36:23,760
on a $10.99 employee, so it doesn't cost us anything on our insurance.

1708
02:36:27,030 --> 02:36:33,070
Okay, because there are $10.99 contract employee, you don't carry insurance on them, which

1709
02:36:33,070 --> 02:36:35,590
potentially still throws it back on the city.

1710
02:36:35,870 --> 02:36:36,650
No, he has an insurance.

1711
02:36:37,170 --> 02:36:38,470
Oh, okay.

1712
02:36:38,670 --> 02:36:39,890
A miscontract employee.

1713
02:36:40,770 --> 02:36:42,030
So they're $10.99.

1714
02:36:42,370 --> 02:36:43,310
Okay, I got you.

1715
02:36:43,450 --> 02:36:43,610
I got you.

1716
02:36:43,610 --> 02:36:43,850
I got you.

1717
02:36:44,250 --> 02:36:45,130
Thank you.

1718
02:36:45,130 --> 02:36:56,350
Now Mr. Warren. Well, you three. Okay, Mr. Warren. I was just going to clarify what we're voting on. We're just voting to bring back this really horrible idea, right?

1719
02:36:58,090 --> 02:37:11,470
I don't have a problem figuring out a way to do this, but if we're talking about bringing back a plan to have police officers work over time.

1720
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:19,900
that's not going to work because the next thing you know is they're going to need to be

1721
02:37:19,900 --> 02:37:25,740
on call and if they're on call then that's I think that's even more money.

1722
02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:33,960
I mean, I've been anyway, the question is we're just voting on bringing back a plan, correct?

1723
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:36,240
Not voting on doing anything.

1724
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:37,240
Correct.

1725
02:37:37,440 --> 02:37:38,200
We are voting.

1726
02:37:38,400 --> 02:37:43,660
We're directing staff to bring up a plan that would use off-duty officers that would

1727
02:37:43,660 --> 02:37:48,680
cost time and a half and checking into the bargaining agreement and see what that would cost.

1728
02:37:48,900 --> 02:37:50,180
Did I kind of get that?

1729
02:37:52,700 --> 02:37:58,460
So yes, that's the just of the current motion, another option too could be a substitute

1730
02:37:58,460 --> 02:38:05,820
motion just to table this and have staff bring back some more options and do it that way.

1731
02:38:07,060 --> 02:38:07,640
Mr. Gill.

1732
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:09,600
Thank you.

1733
02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:15,820
It seems to be that the consensus of the Council would like to consider this program.

1734
02:38:16,140 --> 02:38:21,420
There's certainly no sense in doing it with off duty policemen.

1735
02:38:22,380 --> 02:38:29,540
First of all, we're going to have a shortage of off duty policemen that may or may not want to do this.

1736
02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:33,660
We also have a shortage of volunteers that can do it.

1737
02:38:33,740 --> 02:38:35,640
So we're going to have the same problem either way.

1738
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:42,640
So if we continue this program I'd like to make an alternate motion that we just continue the program on duty

1739
02:38:42,640 --> 02:38:49,320
We're wanting to pay for it. We sure don't need to pay for off time or over time pay on top of everything else

1740
02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:54,160
We'll just continue it like we've been doing it. We'll pay for the placement. He'll be on duty

1741
02:38:54,160 --> 02:38:59,800
He'll use the car and we'll take care of the insurance. There's not really any need to have a okay

1742
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:04,720
We have a substitute motion on the floor to continue the policy as is is there a second

1743
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:11,380
We do have a second. We deal with the substitute motion first debate.

1744
02:39:14,350 --> 02:39:14,790
I concur.

1745
02:39:25,500 --> 02:39:32,000
Okay, so we didn't get a motion on the first one, so that's fine. We've got one more working on now. Please vote.

1746
02:39:35,740 --> 02:39:42,360
Here we go. We've got a motion a second on yours. We're voting to continue the policy as is.

1747
02:39:54,560 --> 02:39:56,300
We've got to have one more. There we go.

1748
02:39:56,300 --> 02:40:01,560
of motion to continue the policy as is carries 8 to 0.

1749
02:40:02,820 --> 02:40:09,660
Item number 38, and accordance with the true North culture statement, by seeking to provide

1750
02:40:09,660 --> 02:40:15,340
a safe environment and opportunity for our children to thrive, consider an ordinance pertaining

1751
02:40:15,340 --> 02:40:24,900
to recreation, amendment section 193311, Article 193, Chapter 19, Law and City Code 2015,

1752
02:40:24,900 --> 02:40:30,280
but prohibiting use of throw nets at Lake Hellen and Liberty Lake provided for

1753
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:33,920
suburbility and establishing an effective date, Mitch.

1754
02:40:35,260 --> 02:40:36,760
Good afternoon again, Councillor Mayer.

1755
02:40:37,260 --> 02:40:43,560
This ordinance was proposed to ban the use of cast nets or throw nets, particularly at Lake

1756
02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:44,820
Hellen and Lake Liberty.

1757
02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:50,780
As you know, those are small lakes and they're designed mostly for recreational fishing and

1758
02:40:50,780 --> 02:40:52,600
other opportunities in that direction.

1759
02:40:53,180 --> 02:40:59,240
Currently, there's stock at least Lake Hellen is stocked twice a year by the Oklahoma Department

1760
02:40:59,240 --> 02:41:00,400
of Wildlife Conservation.

1761
02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:04,200
They bring fish in twice a year for that lake.

1762
02:41:04,720 --> 02:41:06,780
We'd like to start that with Lake Liberty.

1763
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:14,800
I believe it was that way at one time in the past, but we're still looking into that.

1764
02:41:14,800 --> 02:41:25,060
But being stopped twice a year by the wildlife department, large volume fishing is not really

1765
02:41:25,060 --> 02:41:26,460
a sustainable option.

1766
02:41:26,660 --> 02:41:33,220
So we're looking to amend this ordinance to ban that practice at both Lake Liberty and

1767
02:41:33,220 --> 02:41:34,360
Lake Hillin.

1768
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:39,540
Make a motion to approve the ordinance, way of the reading of the ordinance, read the title

1769
02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:40,060
only.

1770
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:41,400
Obviously.

1771
02:41:41,400 --> 02:41:44,400
Do you have a second, discussed, trying to obey?

1772
02:41:44,900 --> 02:41:45,280
Yeah, Mayor.

1773
02:41:45,760 --> 02:41:45,800
Yes.

1774
02:41:46,300 --> 02:41:47,500
Just one question.

1775
02:41:47,960 --> 02:41:49,880
I guess we're going to put signage up about that.

1776
02:41:49,900 --> 02:41:51,700
I didn't even know they were out there throwing nets.

1777
02:41:52,260 --> 02:41:52,840
That's out there.

1778
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:53,220
Got it.

1779
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:59,400
Yeah, that's something we're planning on putting signage up to try to, and then enforce the.

1780
02:41:59,840 --> 02:41:59,860
Yes.

1781
02:42:00,960 --> 02:42:07,540
Being an ordinance after passing, and it will be an enforceable thing, and we can put signage

1782
02:42:07,540 --> 02:42:08,560
out there to that effect.

1783
02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:09,880
Okay, thank you.

1784
02:42:10,300 --> 02:42:10,560
Please.

1785
02:42:12,220 --> 02:42:19,920
Sorry, an ordinance pertaining to Regreation, a Mending Section 1933-01, article 193, chapter

1786
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:26,400
19, Lawton City Code 2015 by prohibiting use of throw nets and Lake Helen and Lake Liberty

1787
02:42:26,400 --> 02:42:30,060
Lake providing for separate building and establishing effective date.

1788
02:42:30,380 --> 02:42:31,140
Please vote.

1789
02:42:34,250 --> 02:42:39,290
Motion carries eight to zero, bringing up item 39, and accordance with the true North

1790
02:42:39,290 --> 02:42:41,910
Culture Statement of doing everything for the citizen.

1791
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:44,970
Consider an ordinance pertaining to personnel policies

1792
02:42:44,970 --> 02:42:45,770
and procedures,

1793
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:49,630
demanding section 1714138,

1794
02:42:49,930 --> 02:42:53,370
division 1714 article 1711,

1795
02:42:53,530 --> 02:42:56,270
chapter 17 lot in city code 2015.

1796
02:42:57,010 --> 02:42:59,430
By clarifying rate of pay for shift differential,

1797
02:42:59,910 --> 02:43:02,810
clarifying when a qualifying shift employee

1798
02:43:02,810 --> 02:43:06,690
were received fist difference shift differential pay,

1799
02:43:06,690 --> 02:43:10,450
providing for stability and establishing an effective date.

1800
02:43:11,710 --> 02:43:13,430
Hello again, Council, Mr. Mayor.

1801
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:16,350
Occasionally, when we go through chapter 17,

1802
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:19,270
like human resources is required to do,

1803
02:43:19,270 --> 02:43:22,210
and we go through policies, we find places

1804
02:43:22,210 --> 02:43:24,130
where things are done inconsistent,

1805
02:43:25,670 --> 02:43:28,650
because certain codes or certain policies

1806
02:43:28,650 --> 02:43:32,710
may have some different interpretations to them.

1807
02:43:32,890 --> 02:43:35,470
And this is one that we found that was done a little bit

1808
02:43:35,470 --> 02:43:41,910
consistent on win and employee get shift differential pay. Some of them would give it to

1809
02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:49,390
them whenever they worked just after 5 p.m. or before 5 a.m. but if they came to work at

1810
02:43:49,390 --> 02:43:55,710
like 3 o'clock to 11, they may not get shift differential for 3 and 4 o'clock. Those 2 hours. Whereas

1811
02:43:55,710 --> 02:43:59,690
one interpretation says, well, if they worked the whole shift, they're supposed to get it for the

1812
02:43:59,690 --> 02:44:07,010
shift as long as 50 percent of it is between 5 PM and 5 AM. So we just clarified code a little

1813
02:44:07,010 --> 02:44:14,630
bit to say if an employee works their scheduled hours and at least 50 percent of it is after

1814
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:20,730
5 PM and before 5 AM in the morning they get shift differential for their whole shift.

1815
02:44:21,130 --> 02:44:23,870
Did they work? Questions? Motion.

1816
02:44:27,230 --> 02:44:28,890
Move to

1817
02:44:31,740 --> 02:44:33,260
approve. Move to approve. Wave the

1818
02:44:33,260 --> 02:44:35,100
Are you in the way order to read the title?

1819
02:44:35,340 --> 02:44:35,580
I'll let him in.

1820
02:44:35,580 --> 02:44:36,820
We do have a second.

1821
02:44:37,660 --> 02:44:38,720
Please read the title.

1822
02:44:40,920 --> 02:44:42,520
Randy, Mike.

1823
02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:47,400
And ordinance pertaining to personnel policies and procedures

1824
02:44:47,400 --> 02:44:55,640
Amending Section 1714138 Division 1714 article 171 chapter 17.

1825
02:44:55,980 --> 02:44:59,980
Lot in city code 2015 by clarifying the rate of pay for sheep.

1826
02:45:15,360 --> 02:45:18,160
Good afternoon.

1827
02:46:25,180 --> 02:46:34,200
Good afternoon.

1828
02:52:57,710 --> 02:52:59,070
Good afternoon. We have a question for you.

1829
02:52:59,070 --> 02:53:06,290
report, it's number 40, receive a report on the status of HVA's, receive a report on

1830
02:53:06,290 --> 02:53:11,610
the status of the HVA systems that they seek in Patterson and no one's community centers

1831
02:53:11,610 --> 02:53:16,890
and direct staff has deemed nip Mitch.

1832
02:53:18,490 --> 02:53:19,170
Hello again.

1833
02:53:21,710 --> 02:53:28,710
I apologize, my contractor Tom doesn't appear to be in the room anymore, but I am

1834
02:53:28,710 --> 02:53:35,410
happy to report at this time the AC systems at all three recreation centers are operating.

1835
02:53:37,650 --> 02:53:42,930
They, in some cases particularly at the Owen Center and at the King Center, they are temporary

1836
02:53:42,930 --> 02:53:47,070
fixes and anticipation of permanent fixes coming up in the coming weeks.

1837
02:53:47,630 --> 02:53:53,870
The parts for those permanent fixes have been on order since March of this year, so they

1838
02:53:53,870 --> 02:53:59,310
are on their way, but in all three records and centers,

1839
02:54:00,070 --> 02:54:01,210
those systems are functioning.

1840
02:54:01,450 --> 02:54:04,350
In fact, I got an email while we were sitting here

1841
02:54:04,350 --> 02:54:06,970
from Charlotte saying that it's a little too cold

1842
02:54:06,970 --> 02:54:09,070
in the Owen Center at the moment.

1843
02:54:09,550 --> 02:54:12,070
So there are still a little bit of control issues going on

1844
02:54:12,070 --> 02:54:17,230
at the Owen Center, but it is cool in that building.

1845
02:54:18,450 --> 02:54:21,030
There's some work to be done at the King Center, also,

1846
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:28,310
But they've been able to reduce the temperatures down to about 72 to 74 degrees in the building.

1847
02:54:29,050 --> 02:54:31,850
So we're happy to report that.

1848
02:54:32,250 --> 02:54:38,130
I was going to have Tom come and talk to you a little bit about the work that has, oh, there he is.

1849
02:54:39,250 --> 02:54:47,230
Tom is going to give a minute or two talk about what's going on at the three recreation centers and what he has coming up.

1850
02:54:49,870 --> 02:54:50,670
Good afternoon.

1851
02:54:52,170 --> 02:54:59,030
Tom Mollon, Duncan with Air Solutions, so entertaining any questions.

1852
02:55:02,390 --> 02:55:06,530
Well, for initiation from last year anyway, we took over pretty good task.

1853
02:55:08,610 --> 02:55:15,430
The equipment at these particular centers is outdated and added to San Luis in the

1854
02:55:15,430 --> 02:55:22,810
cycle. So initially we started trying to get the units ordered last year and they finally

1855
02:55:22,810 --> 02:55:30,070
cut loose back in March to replace the units at the Owens, Patterson, not Patterson,

1856
02:55:30,110 --> 02:55:37,570
Scheme Owens King and Animal Shelter. So those were the worst shape units in the system.

1857
02:55:37,570 --> 02:55:42,070
We've got those ordered back in March.

1858
02:55:43,310 --> 02:55:50,940
In the interim, the companies came back with an extension, I asked for a extension anyway

1859
02:55:50,940 --> 02:55:57,640
because they'd had a retuning set up and also equipment shortages, or material shortages.

1860
02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:06,340
So that put a spec where we should have had the Owen Center back in September, or this September

1861
02:56:06,340 --> 02:56:14,340
mountain tank. They moved that back to October the 9th. The King Center equipment should be

1862
02:56:14,340 --> 02:56:24,780
here within 12 weeks from today. The animal shelter got extended to 18 weeks as far as we

1863
02:56:24,780 --> 02:56:32,800
know so far. But we've done some temporary work over to King to refurbish the existing units

1864
02:56:32,800 --> 02:56:35,380
to go ahead and carry us through to those come in.

1865
02:56:36,340 --> 02:56:42,240
The time that's taken to do this is because of redesigned units to take a higher

1866
02:56:42,240 --> 02:56:43,760
outside ambient air temperature.

1867
02:56:43,840 --> 02:56:46,280
Most equipment is designed for 95 degrees.

1868
02:56:46,800 --> 02:56:55,800
We requested these to be designed for 105 degrees, that way we can better provide cooling

1869
02:56:55,800 --> 02:56:58,300
for the heat loads of Oklahoma summers.

1870
02:56:58,300 --> 02:57:03,220
As we all know, we had a pretty hot summer this year and it had started early.

1871
02:57:05,680 --> 02:57:06,860
Councillor CASSIDY.

1872
02:57:06,860 --> 02:57:07,580
Councillor CASSIDY.

1873
02:57:07,660 --> 02:57:09,680
What's the temperature at the animal shelter?

1874
02:57:10,660 --> 02:57:11,300
Animal shelter.

1875
02:57:11,440 --> 02:57:14,160
We're trying to maintain the area about 68 to 70.

1876
02:57:15,420 --> 02:57:16,080
Yes, sure.

1877
02:57:16,640 --> 02:57:17,980
Animals like to go down.

1878
02:57:19,020 --> 02:57:20,040
That obviously do anyway.

1879
02:57:20,660 --> 02:57:22,760
The cats have to move them over a little bit.

1880
02:57:23,160 --> 02:57:29,760
But that particular unit was put in in 2009 on the new AACU, but it takes 100% outside

1881
02:57:29,760 --> 02:57:34,360
air, and this is where the fallacy was on the design of this, and like I keep saying,

1882
02:57:35,200 --> 02:57:40,320
it's a normal average unit is set for 95 degrees, for its maximum annual temperature

1883
02:57:40,320 --> 02:57:41,900
efficiency, for efficiency.

1884
02:57:43,180 --> 02:57:48,080
And what we designed and came back with in design these to handle the 105, which is the top

1885
02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:48,920
end of the curve.

1886
02:57:52,840 --> 02:58:01,280
Well, they've got one new HU units and then also disintervations in the actual office areas

1887
02:58:01,280 --> 02:58:01,980
and stuff.

1888
02:58:02,060 --> 02:58:07,120
Those are new units, but the existing carriers that are out there are way beyond

1889
02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:09,220
nature at 20 years old.

1890
02:58:10,820 --> 02:58:16,440
We've got one unit that the heat chambers completely burn up in, it's due to the environments

1891
02:58:16,440 --> 02:58:22,580
because the one is back in the laundry area, which handles a lot of chlorine and a lot of the

1892
02:58:22,580 --> 02:58:26,260
urine orders, which also puts up ammonia, which also is corrosive.

1893
02:58:28,800 --> 02:58:29,800
Thank you, Mayor.

1894
02:58:30,380 --> 02:58:34,300
Tom, so these have been in their 20s.

1895
02:58:34,320 --> 02:58:41,840
What is the life expectancy of one of those units, because are all of them like 20 years old?

1896
02:58:41,960 --> 02:58:42,840
Yes, sir.

1897
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:49,000
They're somehow they're over and at the King Center itself and the Owen Center, that particular

1898
02:58:49,000 --> 02:58:51,940
unit over the gymnasium was probably 25 years ago.

1899
02:58:52,000 --> 02:58:56,560
When should have, it should have been replaced before then, I'm assuming what we talked about

1900
02:58:56,560 --> 02:59:01,260
is actually trying to come up with a schedule and predict our life expectancy, which is right

1901
02:59:01,260 --> 02:59:02,340
at 18 years.

1902
02:59:03,840 --> 02:59:11,000
So then, then, ladies, do we, do we keep, are they all like the same units or do we keep spare

1903
02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:14,120
parks, like spare, come back to spare parts from a guardian

1904
02:59:14,120 --> 02:59:18,020
what we see we're working on anyway, but we've got a

1905
02:59:18,020 --> 02:59:21,880
variable mix of equipment throughout the system in the city.

1906
02:59:22,280 --> 02:59:24,820
Yeah, no doubt I would, but like let's say some of that

1907
02:59:24,820 --> 02:59:28,700
equipment at the animal shelter, you'll order something in

1908
02:59:28,700 --> 02:59:32,380
it's out six months, do we order two of them in the event

1909
02:59:33,100 --> 02:59:34,720
that we have a spare?

1910
02:59:35,140 --> 02:59:39,340
Right, we try to keep spare parts for that particular unit

1911
02:59:39,340 --> 02:59:42,520
we're putting in a working on due to its age.

1912
02:59:43,440 --> 02:59:46,460
Some of them are, so I'm we can't get part for any more.

1913
02:59:46,620 --> 02:59:49,220
We have to go ahead and, and, and,

1914
02:59:51,870 --> 02:59:52,450
and, and, actually,

1915
02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:59,790
for that's a, so that's a, so that's a, so that's a, so that's a, so, so you're, you're, you're, you're, you're developing some type of mate is planned.

1916
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:22,840
So we don't get stuck like we're stuck now. We're going through now anyway, and finding out the ages of the units, and I told Parks and Recreation, anyway, that we need to go through, and another deal that we set up with Mike was here for the city manager, that we were forecasting what needs to be changed first prior to it, becoming at its end of life cycle.

1917
03:00:23,800 --> 03:00:26,040
Right. That was my product out of year or two ahead.

1918
03:00:26,040 --> 03:00:33,780
Yeah, yeah, excuse me. I run a radio station and now I buy two run something goes bad and then I

1919
03:00:33,780 --> 03:00:39,280
Now have a extra part that I can put in place stay on the air

1920
03:00:39,960 --> 03:00:45,600
While the other ones getting repaired we don't have anything like that going on and now is that what you're not

1921
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:56,020
That's not a serious work into is what I say. Okay, most of them are replaced with standard parts any way that are that are

1922
03:00:56,020 --> 03:00:58,300
Okay, all right, thank you.

1923
03:01:00,700 --> 03:01:09,980
I'm glad that some kind of maintenance outlook that we're doing here for a city building because they have not been maintained through the years.

1924
03:01:10,220 --> 03:01:11,100
We have

1925
03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:13,340
20, 25 euro units.

1926
03:01:13,940 --> 03:01:23,000
We need to start planning on a budget to start completely replacing a lot of these units because it's, it's embarrassing.

1927
03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:26,340
Yeah, there's a couple that are 30 years old plus.

1928
03:01:26,460 --> 03:01:30,840
Do we have a, like we do on our vehicles?

1929
03:01:31,200 --> 03:01:35,960
Do we have a list by age of all of our air conditioners?

1930
03:01:35,980 --> 03:01:38,860
Not by age, just by a serial number and model number.

1931
03:01:40,980 --> 03:01:43,420
But we, what does it kind of age in it?

1932
03:01:43,460 --> 03:01:45,360
Does the list have the age in it?

1933
03:01:45,620 --> 03:01:46,920
We can figure out.

1934
03:01:47,420 --> 03:01:48,940
We can definitely figure it out.

1935
03:01:49,140 --> 03:01:51,440
Yeah, just by the model number, we come up with the age.

1936
03:01:51,440 --> 03:01:58,580
I think we, I think that Miss Chapman's right, we need to understand the picture, what does

1937
03:01:58,580 --> 03:01:59,440
it look like?

1938
03:02:02,320 --> 03:02:05,600
Well, I'd like to see the last sorted by age.

1939
03:02:09,450 --> 03:02:09,470
Right.

1940
03:02:09,830 --> 03:02:18,690
And what Miss Chapman says, what I mean, owned by the city, operated by the city, whatever

1941
03:02:18,690 --> 03:02:24,550
everybody has everyone up. Okay. Okay. Do we need a motion or can we just get that done?

1942
03:02:25,070 --> 03:02:32,730
I think we can just get that done. Okay. I would like to add, though, that I yell at Tom a lot.

1943
03:02:34,570 --> 03:02:40,690
But he's big soldiers. He always comes. Sometimes it takes you a little while, but you always get there.

1944
03:02:41,430 --> 03:02:45,170
So we try to listen to this priority and I was told off the beginning anyway.

1945
03:02:45,170 --> 03:02:50,250
the animal shelter, the jail facilities, and the lab facilities come first above everything

1946
03:02:50,250 --> 03:02:51,030
else.

1947
03:02:51,490 --> 03:03:00,010
If we have compliance issues, we have possibility of public criticism for the jail and also

1948
03:03:00,010 --> 03:03:00,970
for the animal shelter.

1949
03:03:01,470 --> 03:03:11,770
Mr. Mr. ... I changed my look on the committee and sometimes I agree with Mr. Chapman

1950
03:03:11,770 --> 03:03:13,010
in the end of you two mayor.

1951
03:03:13,490 --> 03:03:16,410
I think that, but I do want to throw out there,

1952
03:03:16,750 --> 03:03:19,610
some of our buildings, the public go in,

1953
03:03:19,870 --> 03:03:21,770
and some of the buildings of staff go in,

1954
03:03:22,030 --> 03:03:26,030
and I don't know what the priority should be on that kind of thing,

1955
03:03:26,090 --> 03:03:27,250
but as we're making that list,

1956
03:03:27,370 --> 03:03:31,490
can we kind of divide that up to, in the subsections like that?

1957
03:03:31,770 --> 03:03:34,750
Because if we're bringing the public into,

1958
03:03:34,990 --> 03:03:36,470
let's say, the museum, and the air conditioner

1959
03:03:36,470 --> 03:03:39,470
doesn't work, that can be a little more embarrassing

1960
03:03:39,470 --> 03:03:44,610
as we're trying to catch up on this thing than if it's just the staff, not on the staff

1961
03:03:44,610 --> 03:03:50,550
on the bus, but I think that it would be good to know those kind of variables when you

1962
03:03:50,550 --> 03:03:51,390
make that list.

1963
03:03:51,890 --> 03:03:58,230
I ask last year, at the same time, anyway, that we start looking for the museum and also for the auditorium,

1964
03:03:58,250 --> 03:04:01,590
no units, because of those are the next worst in the system.

1965
03:04:02,530 --> 03:04:06,870
And actually, the museum needed to be in there because of the humidity levels.

1966
03:04:06,870 --> 03:04:09,950
We need to control the humidity levels for the historical order time.

1967
03:04:09,950 --> 03:04:13,210
I think the library is in the mix too, right?

1968
03:04:13,910 --> 03:04:13,930
Yeah.

1969
03:04:14,330 --> 03:04:19,070
We need to know the cost to replace these so that we have an idea of what we're looking

1970
03:04:19,070 --> 03:04:19,410
at.

1971
03:04:20,450 --> 03:04:21,350
Thank you very much.

1972
03:04:21,670 --> 03:04:22,170
Thank you, Mitch.

1973
03:04:23,690 --> 03:04:29,350
Item 41, receive a staff report from Brent Baguette, Deputy Fire Chief, regarding a

1974
03:04:29,350 --> 03:04:32,350
new city of Laughton, severe weather, administrative policy.

1975
03:04:34,290 --> 03:04:41,090
Good afternoon, Council, back in June we had the severe weather that came through and shortly

1976
03:04:41,090 --> 03:04:47,150
after that we were tasked by city administration to come up with a policy to address this

1977
03:04:47,150 --> 03:04:49,390
of your weather and notification of our employees.

1978
03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:55,350
The storm came through on June 15th and it always presents an opportunity for us to review

1979
03:04:55,350 --> 03:04:57,950
policies and procedures to look for an area of improvement.

1980
03:04:58,750 --> 03:05:03,410
The purpose of this is to ensure the safety of our employees during severe weather events.

1981
03:05:04,050 --> 03:05:09,050
We want to have a guideline for the employees who are both in facilities as well as in the field.

1982
03:05:09,910 --> 03:05:18,390
We establish clear procedures and promote preparedness and to minimize risks and facilitate an organized internal response to severe weather conditions.

1983
03:05:19,410 --> 03:05:26,370
What we did is we created a small graph here to help with the different weather alerts that we have.

1984
03:05:26,370 --> 03:05:31,570
So obviously we're in a green situation every day with no watches or warnings in place

1985
03:05:31,570 --> 03:05:38,010
as a weather watch is put in for the area that will take us into the yellow alert zone for

1986
03:05:38,010 --> 03:05:40,790
everyone to be aware that there's a potential for something coming.

1987
03:05:41,650 --> 03:05:46,790
As a warning is issued, we would move into a red level and that's for the awareness of you

1988
03:05:46,790 --> 03:05:50,690
if you're in the field or if you're in a city building to know that you have weather coming.

1989
03:05:50,690 --> 03:06:05,870
This will work with our HR partners for training to allow those employees to either start preparing to shelter in place or if they need to go home if we have a snowstorm or hail or severe winds coming through.

1990
03:06:06,870 --> 03:06:16,830
And then we created the last level here at the black level. So what this will do is this will be the shelter in place immediately severe weather is taking place as we at that time.

1991
03:06:18,430 --> 03:06:23,530
So, in summary, the goal is to just provide a safe working environment for all of our employees,

1992
03:06:24,390 --> 03:06:29,390
being whether aware is everyone's responsibility, top down, management, supervisors, and employees.

1993
03:06:30,350 --> 03:06:34,910
It's going to help with communication, preparedness, and training or the keys for this to be successful.

1994
03:06:36,050 --> 03:06:38,050
That's as quick as I can make it.

1995
03:06:38,450 --> 03:06:41,030
I'm open for any questions or anything like that.

1996
03:06:41,030 --> 03:06:42,190
Mr. Mayor.

1997
03:06:44,370 --> 03:06:52,630
Right, I was here when that storm hit and there were several employees here and some that were coming back.

1998
03:06:53,330 --> 03:06:58,130
It's not clear to me downstairs where that shelter area is.

1999
03:06:58,190 --> 03:07:07,850
I think we need to do a better job of marking that so that people know where to go without having to be directed if possible.

2000
03:07:08,550 --> 03:07:13,870
Sure, we can look into helping with proper mapping and notification in the facilities.

2001
03:07:14,310 --> 03:07:19,990
All of that should be in place, but if we need to increase that some, we can work with the building and grounds and the partners that are in charge of that.

2002
03:07:22,140 --> 03:07:22,780
Anything else?

2003
03:07:24,320 --> 03:07:24,900
Yeah, thank you, Mayor.

2004
03:07:26,120 --> 03:07:34,880
Is this a, wouldn't it like a code to some app or something or some code to go to or something that we used to have?

2005
03:07:35,020 --> 03:07:35,960
Let me hand that out.

2006
03:07:35,960 --> 03:07:42,600
We use a lot of utilize code red. We're in the process of working with our county emergency management partners city county

2007
03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:47,000
emergency management with Clint Lakeford history. They're developing an app. They're actually purchasing for that.

2008
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:53,620
We're going to have freeze when we're saving the city money will be able to send messages to not only external partners in disaster,

2009
03:07:53,840 --> 03:08:01,680
but also our internal employees by employee groups. So it's going to allow us a better messaging plan for working with Caitlin and the marketing division.

2010
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:03,680
And so it's going to be a great tool for all of us

2011
03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:05,360
going to utilize and send information

2012
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:06,460
out city wide better.

2013
03:08:06,680 --> 03:08:08,000
So I think that's what you're asking

2014
03:08:08,000 --> 03:08:08,500
to something like that.

2015
03:08:08,500 --> 03:08:10,760
Yeah, that was something that we had code read before.

2016
03:08:11,220 --> 03:08:14,060
Yeah, we had to kind of sign up for the code thing

2017
03:08:14,060 --> 03:08:14,800
and it's send you.

2018
03:08:14,840 --> 03:08:16,800
Yeah, we had text my, we've been through three or four

2019
03:08:16,800 --> 03:08:18,780
different iterations, but we don't have anything.

2020
03:08:19,260 --> 03:08:19,740
Oh, that's great.

2021
03:08:19,740 --> 03:08:21,660
We have text my gov today, but this one will be this

2022
03:08:21,660 --> 03:08:24,500
as we're moving to this with Clint and city County

2023
03:08:24,500 --> 03:08:25,120
Mercy Management.

2024
03:08:25,200 --> 03:08:26,240
This will be the first time.

2025
03:08:26,460 --> 03:08:28,600
We've had a concerted effort for both organizations

2026
03:08:28,600 --> 03:08:31,120
working together, which should be better resources.

2027
03:08:31,120 --> 03:08:32,940
and better information coming out.

2028
03:08:33,360 --> 03:08:35,700
So hopefully we're streamlining it with the true North

2029
03:08:35,700 --> 03:08:37,900
and utilizing that to ensure what is the management.

2030
03:08:37,940 --> 03:08:39,000
And our employees better.

2031
03:08:39,240 --> 03:08:39,620
Yes, sir.

2032
03:08:39,780 --> 03:08:40,700
Thank you.

2033
03:08:40,860 --> 03:08:46,920
In just a highlight that this is just an internal policy here for our employees that are out in the field.

2034
03:08:47,080 --> 03:08:49,520
You know, we had a lot of vehicle damage and building damage.

2035
03:08:49,940 --> 03:08:56,480
So just to try to make sure everyone's aware that they're also responsible for being aware of the weather coming in.

2036
03:08:56,580 --> 03:09:00,320
And then what safe procedures they can take place once that gets here.

2037
03:09:01,790 --> 03:09:02,950
Anything else?

2038
03:09:04,850 --> 03:09:05,210
Thank you very much.

2039
03:09:05,210 --> 03:09:06,090
Thank you guys.

2040
03:09:06,570 --> 03:09:11,170
And now brings up 42 report on utility services operations you've done.

2041
03:09:18,370 --> 03:09:21,510
My section of this is going to be very short.

2042
03:09:25,300 --> 03:09:30,730
I would like to introduce you to the utility building supervisor, Lawrence Smith.

2043
03:09:31,610 --> 03:09:37,990
She's going to be going over the utility building office and some of there.

2044
03:09:37,990 --> 03:09:42,350
What they what they do and some of the things we're working on for the future

2045
03:09:43,390 --> 03:09:48,470
That's good looking. I love lot in pan you got there. You know what my mayor gave it to me today

2046
03:09:48,470 --> 03:09:54,090
I've never been more proud. How about that you hand lost to get that you haven't you know that magnet super strong

2047
03:09:56,420 --> 03:09:58,800
Council Mr. Mayor. Thank you so much for having me today

2048
03:09:59,540 --> 03:10:05,040
As we focus on the true North culture and then everything that we do was for the citizen the city of

2049
03:10:05,040 --> 03:10:10,800
the utility services team wants to highlight what we do and what we are doing to provide

2050
03:10:10,800 --> 03:10:13,180
world-class customer service.

2051
03:10:13,300 --> 03:10:15,080
Do we by chance have that PowerPoint?

2052
03:10:18,470 --> 03:10:19,090
I gotcha.

2053
03:10:20,070 --> 03:10:22,230
So there's a beautiful PowerPoint that goes to this.

2054
03:10:22,810 --> 03:10:24,030
I just did not get it in time.

2055
03:10:25,570 --> 03:10:29,730
So the utility services department is comprised of our department manager who oversees

2056
03:10:29,730 --> 03:10:32,110
day-to-day operations for the entire department.

2057
03:10:32,110 --> 03:10:39,970
Handles, Cycle, and Hand-Biddling focuses on the continuation of the education for herself and for the office supervisor.

2058
03:10:41,310 --> 03:10:46,270
We had cashier handles the deposit for the city of Lotton, completes all water transactions,

2059
03:10:46,910 --> 03:10:52,290
works closely with finance department to ensure accuracy between transactions and the bank statements,

2060
03:10:53,210 --> 03:10:59,830
handles all lodging tax payments. The office supervisor provides day-to-day operation for full-service representatives,

2061
03:10:59,830 --> 03:11:06,030
handles the final billing, hears and manages customers' issues and complaints and implements

2062
03:11:06,030 --> 03:11:10,510
continued training to ensure representatives achieve world-class customer service.

2063
03:11:11,510 --> 03:11:16,130
Our full service representatives in my front office, they handle the setup, the transfers,

2064
03:11:16,570 --> 03:11:21,630
and turning off of our accounts. We take the payments and educate our customers on how to use

2065
03:11:21,630 --> 03:11:27,430
what the automated phone system and our online payment system. They hear the customers and address

2066
03:11:27,430 --> 03:11:29,250
all matters with a sense of urgency.

2067
03:11:30,550 --> 03:11:33,050
Our full service representatives in our billing office

2068
03:11:33,050 --> 03:11:35,530
handle the incoming and outgoing phone calls

2069
03:11:35,530 --> 03:11:38,150
for utility services assist with payments

2070
03:11:38,150 --> 03:11:39,890
and walks through the automated system

2071
03:11:39,890 --> 03:11:41,890
with the customers on the phone.

2072
03:11:43,150 --> 03:11:44,750
We handle assigning hydrant meters,

2073
03:11:45,170 --> 03:11:47,730
importing meter readings, our collection accounts,

2074
03:11:48,050 --> 03:11:50,730
our thefts, pledges, and our landlord accounts

2075
03:11:50,730 --> 03:11:52,070
all within that one office.

2076
03:11:53,270 --> 03:11:55,730
Our full service representatives in the month of July

2077
03:11:55,730 --> 03:12:04,710
Handled 4,590 transactions, they set up 400 new accounts and handled 7,758 phone calls.

2078
03:12:05,630 --> 03:12:12,450
Our headcashier also processed 10,866 payments that were completed by Autodraft, our online

2079
03:12:12,450 --> 03:12:21,630
payment portal, and by our automatic phone system, which gives us a grand total of 23,614 transactions

2080
03:12:22,250 --> 03:12:24,010
just in the month of July alone.

2081
03:12:25,030 --> 03:12:29,490
As we strive to be the most efficient department that we can be, our call trends have seen

2082
03:12:29,490 --> 03:12:32,990
a strong decrease, not only in the volume, but also in wait time.

2083
03:12:33,450 --> 03:12:38,090
These vectors along with our pursuit of excellence shows our dedication to making the customers

2084
03:12:38,090 --> 03:12:39,070
time a priority.

2085
03:12:40,710 --> 03:12:45,570
In true North fashion, of providing world-class customer service, we have heard our customers

2086
03:12:45,570 --> 03:12:47,490
comments, questions, and concerns.

2087
03:12:48,410 --> 03:12:53,310
The biggest issue that seems to present itself is our inability to accept deposits by

2088
03:12:53,310 --> 03:12:56,650
our credit card. As we pursue the

2089
03:12:56,650 --> 03:12:58,770
environmental excellence, we as an

2090
03:12:58,770 --> 03:13:00,050
apartment and the city of Lawton

2091
03:13:00,050 --> 03:13:02,550
Team are committed to fixing that

2092
03:13:02,550 --> 03:13:05,830
issue by October 31st. For this

2093
03:13:05,830 --> 03:13:07,630
to be present, we must present a

2094
03:13:07,630 --> 03:13:08,770
change of verbiage in the city

2095
03:13:08,770 --> 03:13:10,430
code to counsel by October

2096
03:13:10,430 --> 03:13:12,710
the 10th and have that approved

2097
03:13:12,710 --> 03:13:15,330
and implemented. Next we will

2098
03:13:15,330 --> 03:13:17,130
work closely with IT and our

2099
03:13:17,130 --> 03:13:18,550
Tyler to complete necessary

2100
03:13:18,550 --> 03:13:20,270
steps with the programming by

2101
03:13:20,270 --> 03:13:22,590
the 18th of October and we will

2102
03:13:22,590 --> 03:13:26,770
design and implement training with our customer service representatives to make for a seamless

2103
03:13:26,770 --> 03:13:30,650
rollout before the projected completion date of 31 October.

2104
03:13:31,290 --> 03:13:32,050
Thank you.

2105
03:13:32,230 --> 03:13:32,710
Any questions?

2106
03:13:34,690 --> 03:13:37,190
I don't have a question but this was very exciting.

2107
03:13:37,610 --> 03:13:42,150
Sounds like we're really moving in the right direction on that department.

2108
03:13:42,330 --> 03:13:48,470
Sounds like you're evaluating all of your policies and procedures and making it easier

2109
03:13:48,470 --> 03:13:50,630
to get signed on for an account.

2110
03:13:50,830 --> 03:13:51,650
I like that.

2111
03:13:51,650 --> 03:13:56,970
question. I just had one question, so we're talking solution oriented with the customers come in.

2112
03:13:57,130 --> 03:14:04,550
Correct. Okay, thank you. Okay, and I can tell that you're serious when you use the words,

2113
03:14:05,050 --> 03:14:10,610
like world-class customer service. We assert. Thank you very much. We appreciate that report.

2114
03:14:11,070 --> 03:14:15,990
Mayor Council, I would like to make a couple more. This is that Lauren didn't have because

2115
03:14:15,990 --> 03:14:23,070
PowerPoint written, or what represented, we had in since August 22,

2116
03:14:25,950 --> 03:14:26,270
well the

2117
03:14:26,270 --> 03:14:38,510
first month of August 22, we had 17,727 phone calls. In July of 23, we had 7,758 phone

2118
03:14:39,710 --> 03:14:48,190
Our whole time in the queue went from six minutes and 41 seconds to 40 seconds.

2119
03:14:52,200 --> 03:14:54,240
That's what happens with World Class Service.

2120
03:14:55,560 --> 03:14:57,600
That's the reason the war is in our position.

2121
03:14:59,100 --> 03:14:59,380
All right.

2122
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:07,380
I'll take that attention to the true North statement and to the citizens. Any further comments or questions

2123
03:15:07,380 --> 03:15:15,440
before we go on? Thank you. Thank you very much. Number 43, receiver report on the status of the FY 2022 audit,

2124
03:15:15,640 --> 03:15:25,760
Joe Dough. Well, statuses, we're still plugging along. We are working to get that done as

2125
03:15:25,760 --> 03:15:27,300
this position is possible.

2126
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:32,320
Currently, we've got out of the staff that I have on board.

2127
03:15:32,480 --> 03:15:37,720
I've got two accountants dedicated to nothing but the audit.

2128
03:15:39,500 --> 03:15:45,380
All other work load has been taken off of their plates and redistributed it.

2129
03:15:45,940 --> 03:15:51,460
We have, along with these people, we have the new internal auditor working with this.

2130
03:15:51,460 --> 03:15:56,320
And as early as this week, we've got the Deputy City Manager working with us.

2131
03:15:56,780 --> 03:16:05,420
We are also preparing specifications to go out to hire two contract accountants, to work

2132
03:16:05,420 --> 03:16:11,600
on-site with us, to get this get our audits caught up in place.

2133
03:16:11,600 --> 03:16:23,820
We are currently behind on the 1922 and the 2022 and the 2023 audits.

2134
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:33,040
On October 15th, the week of October 15th, I expect our auditors to be on site, at which

2135
03:16:33,040 --> 03:16:40,580
time they will be doing the LATS testing, they will be doing the testing for LATS, ARPA,

2136
03:16:40,580 --> 03:16:49,360
capital improvements and long-term assets, they'll be pulling purchase orders and for examination

2137
03:16:49,360 --> 03:16:52,380
and they will be reviewing our investments.

2138
03:16:56,490 --> 03:17:02,520
They will also be working toward the completion of the FY22 single audit, which is required

2139
03:17:02,520 --> 03:17:12,700
because the city of Latin as over $75,750,000 with grants in one year.

2140
03:17:14,580 --> 03:17:21,800
Our goal is to have our bank reconciliation for 2022 caught up by the end of October.

2141
03:17:24,060 --> 03:17:24,700
Question?

2142
03:17:25,620 --> 03:17:25,820
Yes.

2143
03:17:27,020 --> 03:17:32,380
Are we getting or not getting our gasoline tax from the state of Oklahoma,

2144
03:17:32,380 --> 03:17:34,340
because we're behind on our audit.

2145
03:17:34,460 --> 03:17:37,400
Currently, we are not getting our gasoline tax

2146
03:17:37,400 --> 03:17:38,460
because we are in behind.

2147
03:17:38,700 --> 03:17:40,520
Are we going to get that later every year?

2148
03:17:40,520 --> 03:17:41,540
We will get that.

2149
03:17:42,040 --> 03:17:45,460
That is that as long as we as long as that is done,

2150
03:17:45,720 --> 03:17:47,200
don't know where that gets held permanently

2151
03:17:47,200 --> 03:17:50,180
is if we're beyond where you'll be on two years.

2152
03:17:51,120 --> 03:17:54,140
So once we have our 2022 audit done,

2153
03:17:54,720 --> 03:17:57,800
which we expected to be done before that two year period,

2154
03:17:58,180 --> 03:17:59,720
we will get that money back.

2155
03:18:03,300 --> 03:18:04,400
It's quite a bit of money in it.

2156
03:18:09,620 --> 03:18:10,260
Okay,

2157
03:18:12,620 --> 03:18:19,580
so we're behind on the 22, the 23, we're really not behind on the end of the year.

2158
03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:31,080
Well, the 2023, starting June 30, 2023, would have been is due by December 31, 2023, yes.

2159
03:18:31,080 --> 03:18:32,740
Thank you.

2160
03:18:33,240 --> 03:18:33,840
Now,

2161
03:18:36,560 --> 03:18:40,420
you said the bank Rick oscillations are being done by October 31.

2162
03:18:42,400 --> 03:18:44,000
Does that put its near complete?

2163
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:45,560
I'm not really sure what that means.

2164
03:18:47,020 --> 03:18:53,460
What's holding this back is, and having the auditors do the complete audit are the cash reconciliation.

2165
03:18:54,820 --> 03:18:59,520
And those we expect to have done for our main cash account.

2166
03:19:00,220 --> 03:19:07,340
We've got several cash accounts, the main one is what is causing us issues.

2167
03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:14,980
Because of, I can give you a reason why, but it's, unless you want them, it just sounds

2168
03:19:14,980 --> 03:19:21,340
like it's used as, as the, and Joe don't correct me if I'm wrong.

2169
03:19:21,380 --> 03:19:27,220
But after we get the cash out, reconciliation's done, we're looking at four to six weeks after

2170
03:19:27,220 --> 03:19:30,800
that and in order for the complete audit to be done.

2171
03:19:31,000 --> 03:19:35,160
Okay, it's going to take the independent auditor some time to get their stuff together.

2172
03:19:35,600 --> 03:19:42,080
Okay, so that's the Medal of December on your, on your out date, Medal of December.

2173
03:19:42,780 --> 03:19:43,120
Now,

2174
03:19:47,350 --> 03:19:50,430
when will we be able to get the 23 done?

2175
03:19:50,750 --> 03:19:54,430
We can't start the 23 until the 22 is done.

2176
03:19:56,130 --> 03:19:59,090
A lot of the problems we're fixing now

2177
03:19:59,090 --> 03:20:06,310
We'll not be problems in the 2023 audit because we're fixing them in the 2022, so it should be expedited.

2178
03:20:07,990 --> 03:20:16,490
I would anticipate we're mid-February, mid-March before we get our 2023.

2179
03:20:19,960 --> 03:20:28,900
And part of the work that we're having done on the 15th is to expedite the time that is required

2180
03:20:32,560 --> 03:20:39,300
after the shutdown of that 46 weeks that Mr. Rattler was talking about.

2181
03:20:39,460 --> 03:20:40,960
Okay, Mr. Hampton, do you have questions?

2182
03:20:41,020 --> 03:20:43,740
Yeah, I just had to go on the cast reconciliation.

2183
03:20:44,620 --> 03:20:46,420
Of course we don't need to talk about why.

2184
03:20:46,860 --> 03:20:53,140
But all the wise are getting fixed so that we have a smooth sailing ship

2185
03:20:53,140 --> 03:20:54,680
through the cast reconciliation.

2186
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:55,260
Yes.

2187
03:20:55,260 --> 03:21:01,980
for here on out. That's the reason it's not just between three of us. That's the reason it's taken a little bit more time

2188
03:21:01,980 --> 03:21:08,880
with these because of everything that went on that year with the transition to a new software,

2189
03:21:09,640 --> 03:21:16,660
the transitions and new banks, all of those things provided the perfect storm to delay that audit.

2190
03:21:17,620 --> 03:21:21,860
And we are fixing those as we move forward. So once it is fixed, it is fixed.

2191
03:21:21,860 --> 03:21:23,800
Standard operating procedures.

2192
03:21:24,160 --> 03:21:24,560
Put in the place.

2193
03:21:24,880 --> 03:21:26,900
Thank you.

2194
03:21:26,920 --> 03:21:27,820
Mr. Wigger.

2195
03:21:28,480 --> 03:21:28,640
Yes.

2196
03:21:28,680 --> 03:21:29,380
Joe Donso.

2197
03:21:29,760 --> 03:21:31,060
You made mention earlier.

2198
03:21:31,360 --> 03:21:33,040
Mr. Guild had mentioned.

2199
03:21:33,540 --> 03:21:37,860
The gas tax that is being withheld because the audit has not been completed.

2200
03:21:38,520 --> 03:21:42,160
As you received any notifications from any other federal fundings.

2201
03:21:42,620 --> 03:21:44,640
That would affect other areas that.

2202
03:21:44,920 --> 03:21:47,880
We do take in a lot of federal funds for various projects.

2203
03:21:48,640 --> 03:21:55,820
No, I haven't seen nothing that I can think of right now, okay, from any federal funding.

2204
03:21:56,320 --> 03:21:59,740
State law dictates what happens with the state gas tax.

2205
03:22:00,500 --> 03:22:03,900
And once you are late, they start withholding it.

2206
03:22:04,020 --> 03:22:11,740
If you're more than two years late, you don't get that year's back, it goes to the county.

2207
03:22:13,720 --> 03:22:26,440
But on a more national level, the only letter we've received from Bank America, that's the only one that I'm aware of right now that I can think of.

2208
03:22:26,760 --> 03:22:28,420
So that would be it.

2209
03:22:28,720 --> 03:22:30,620
I appreciate your promise on that.

2210
03:22:32,000 --> 03:22:47,000
Okay, and I I already know so I won't ask but I want to make the statement. I'll know you guys are evaluating everything to continue to refine and improve this so that we get out of it as quick as possible and don't go into it.

2211
03:22:47,800 --> 03:22:51,560
with the following year after what we've talked about.

2212
03:22:52,500 --> 03:22:54,180
So, oh, did you have something else?

2213
03:22:57,750 --> 03:22:58,230
Okay.

2214
03:22:58,610 --> 03:22:59,490
So, thank you very much.

2215
03:22:59,690 --> 03:23:02,330
So, don't we have a motion to adjourn the executive session?

2216
03:23:02,450 --> 03:23:03,030
Is there a second?

2217
03:23:03,150 --> 03:23:03,690
We have a second?

2218
03:23:04,030 --> 03:23:04,990
Please call the roll.

2219
03:23:06,630 --> 03:23:06,830
Deal.

2220
03:23:07,790 --> 03:23:08,130
Hampton?

2221
03:23:08,510 --> 03:23:08,990
Weager?

2222
03:23:09,490 --> 03:23:09,810
Johnson?

2223
03:23:10,490 --> 03:23:10,810
Warren?

2224
03:23:11,370 --> 03:23:11,850
Hankens?

2225
03:23:12,170 --> 03:23:12,550
Harris?

2226
03:23:13,190 --> 03:23:13,610
Chapman?

2227
03:24:02,130 --> 03:24:02,450
Are you?

2228
04:35:49,520 --> 04:35:53,080
Acknowledge, returning from Executive Session, call the roll, please.

2229
04:35:53,600 --> 04:36:00,920
Hampton, Wieger, Johnson, Warren, Hankins, Chapman, Gil.

2230
04:36:04,000 --> 04:36:06,300
Item number 44, to him.

2231
04:36:06,840 --> 04:36:11,660
Presidents section 307, B4, Title 25, Oklahoma, Statutes, the Council convened an Executive

2232
04:36:11,660 --> 04:36:17,380
Session to discuss the pending action in the United States District Court of Oklahoma, Western

2233
04:36:17,380 --> 04:36:21,860
just to welcome that title, Kent Jackson is personal representative of the state of Israel

2234
04:36:21,860 --> 04:36:28,640
Williams versus City of Lawton at L. Case number 5, colon 23, hyphen CV, hyphen 0, 0,

2235
04:36:28,860 --> 04:36:33,820
2, 8, 4, hyphen G. That conversation did occur, hence my understanding we have a motion.

2236
04:36:37,600 --> 04:36:42,540
Yes, I moved to authorize the City Attorney or the City's outside Council from Collins,

2237
04:36:42,680 --> 04:36:47,260
Zorn and Wagner to either amend any current joint defense and confidentiality agreement

2238
04:36:47,260 --> 04:36:52,720
currently in effect or to enter into a new joint defense and confidentiality agreement with

2239
04:36:52,720 --> 04:36:55,340
the current defense firms in this case.

2240
04:36:55,760 --> 04:37:01,140
As necessary for the purpose of adding the law firm, Pierce Cowche, Hendrickson, Basing

2241
04:37:01,140 --> 04:37:05,800
your and Green to any joint defense and confidentiality agreement necessary for the defense

2242
04:37:05,800 --> 04:37:06,740
of this case.

2243
04:37:06,740 --> 04:37:09,920
I've got a motion, go ahead a second.

2244
04:37:09,920 --> 04:37:13,060
I have a motion a second.

2245
04:37:14,360 --> 04:37:17,680
We voting vote please.

2246
04:37:27,610 --> 04:37:33,030
Item number 40, I would be the vote with seven to zero, no abstentions.

2247
04:37:33,650 --> 04:37:34,670
Item number 45.

2248
04:37:35,490 --> 04:37:45,090
I'm concerned to section 307 before Title 25 of Oklahoma Statutes, the Council convene and executive session discuss the pending claim of schoolhouse slew ink.

2249
04:37:45,610 --> 04:37:48,610
That conversation did occur. It's my understanding we have a motion.

2250
04:37:50,470 --> 04:37:57,070
Yes, I moved to authorize the moving forward with the identifying funding for the possible purchase of certain improvements.

2251
04:37:57,070 --> 04:38:02,350
made them to the lease between the Lawton Water Authority and Schoolhouse Slawth Incorporated,

2252
04:38:02,810 --> 04:38:09,270
said purchase price $2,875,000, representing the average of three appraisals will be the

2253
04:38:09,270 --> 04:38:14,450
understanding that any purchases that may occur will be subject to the findings of

2254
04:38:14,450 --> 04:38:21,510
a pending environmental analysis of the entire, excuse me, of the onsite fuel system.

2255
04:38:23,010 --> 04:38:26,430
Have a motion down in a second, please, but

2256
04:38:30,400 --> 04:38:33,140
motion carries 7 to 0, number 46.

2257
04:38:34,580 --> 04:38:39,840
I'd present to Section 307B1, Title 25 of Oklahoma Statutes, Council Convenient Executive

2258
04:38:39,840 --> 04:38:44,740
Section discuss possible candidates for the position of City Clerk, brief conversation

2259
04:38:44,740 --> 04:38:47,220
occurred, and no action is necessary.

2260
04:38:47,860 --> 04:38:49,020
Item number 47.

2261
04:38:49,020 --> 04:38:55,420
Pursuit to Section 307 B1 Title 25 of Columbus Statutes, Council Convenient Executive

2262
04:38:55,420 --> 04:38:59,340
Session to Review the Employment of John Rattliff as Acting City Manager.

2263
04:38:59,560 --> 04:39:03,120
It's my understanding that conversation did occur and no action is necessary.

2264
04:39:03,480 --> 04:39:05,160
Is there a motion for adjournment?

2265
04:39:05,160 --> 04:39:05,780
So moved.

2266
04:39:06,020 --> 04:39:07,820
Motion and did I hear a second?

2267
04:39:08,840 --> 04:39:09,740
Please call the road.

2268
04:39:10,420 --> 04:39:11,000
We here.

2269
04:39:12,480 --> 04:39:17,240
Johnson, Warren, Hankens, Chapman, Gil, Hampton,

2270
04:39:39,640 --> 04:39:40,120
OK.

2271
04:39:40,120 --> 04:39:46,000
At this time, I'm going to call this special meeting of the Lawton Water Authority to order

2272
04:39:46,000 --> 04:39:47,420
please call the wrong.

2273
04:39:47,760 --> 04:39:56,100
Johnson, Warren, Hankens, Harris, Chapman, Gil, Hampton, Weager.

2274
04:40:00,480 --> 04:40:04,420
Okay, at this time we're striking the executive session item number two.

2275
04:40:05,360 --> 04:40:07,320
It leaves us business item number one.

2276
04:40:07,460 --> 04:40:11,720
Consider granting a long-term ground lease agreement to Cody and Shelby Zimmerman

2277
04:40:11,720 --> 04:40:17,780
to allow exclusive ingress and ingress over and across the city on property located south of

2278
04:40:17,780 --> 04:40:25,040
359 northwest cherry road located on the west side of U.S. highway 62 by Chandler Creek and Lake

2279
04:40:25,040 --> 04:40:31,660
Ellsworth and the northwest quarter of section 19 township four north range 11 west of the

2280
04:40:31,660 --> 04:40:38,940
end emmerity and Kamenchi County Oklahoma Tim. Okay briefly board members this is companion

2281
04:40:38,940 --> 04:40:45,040
to what the Council considered and its meeting. Again, it went to the board and also to Council

2282
04:40:45,040 --> 04:40:53,560
back around July 25. There were some issues that the LSEs attorneys had with the lease,

2283
04:40:53,920 --> 04:40:59,000
which we previously discussed in the Council meeting. Well, specifically on the paragraph 21,

2284
04:41:00,440 --> 04:41:05,100
the Council, I want to ask me some questions. I did confirm with our real property administrator

2285
04:41:05,100 --> 04:41:10,700
that the lease starts 200 feet off the highway and then will still allow for public access

2286
04:41:10,700 --> 04:41:16,460
to this part of the city property not covered by the lease and so we corrected some

2287
04:41:16,460 --> 04:41:20,260
errors like said in paragraph 21 and we're just asking for the boards approval.

2288
04:41:20,480 --> 04:41:21,520
I'd like to go

2289
04:41:23,660 --> 04:41:29,820
ahead and turn on your mic, make a motion that we don't read the tax

2290
04:41:29,820 --> 04:41:39,700
We approve the motion. Motion to approve. It's not an ordinance. Okay. I make a motion to approve this. Okay. Do we have a second.

2291
04:41:39,880 --> 04:41:42,480
We have several seconds. Please.

2292
04:41:54,340 --> 04:41:56,600
Okay, the motion carries six to zero.

2293
04:41:57,000 --> 04:42:01,020
Do I have much for adjournment? Please call the roll.

2294
04:42:09,530 --> 04:42:15,070
Warren Ankins, Chapman, Gil Hampton, Weeger.