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I'm going to call the meeting tonight to
order February 9th, 2026. If you could

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all please stand for the invocation by
Pastor

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Butler from the Wings of Deliverance
Church.

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Amen. Praise the Lord.
First of all, I want to say thank you.

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We thank you, Lord, for your goodness,
your grace, and your mercy. We thank you

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for the things that you've already done.
We bless your name for what we see going

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on in this city, the new buildings and
whatever else um is trying to be done in

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this city. We ask you Lord God tonight
to remember this city council that you

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would bless them to always keep your
people in their minds and in their

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hearts to make the right choices to give
the right votes for whatever is needed

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here. God, we ask that you would con
help to conduct this meeting tonight uh

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in an orderly fashion that people that
need to speak will be able to share and

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give clarity to whatever the needs are
for this city. We look to you and God, I

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want to say thank you tonight for being
able to see Councilwoman uh Duprey. I

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thank you for how you've touched her
body and raised her back up. And I pray

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for every family that's represented here
on the city council as well as those who

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are attending here tonight that if there
is any sick among them, any problems,

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any situations that you will work those
things out. Let everything be done

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decent and in order and pleasing in your
sight. We pray. Amen.

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» Amen.
>> Standing for the pledge of allegiance. I

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pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> Please be seated.

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» Lisa, does she have the remote for the
>> Pardon me?

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» She had the remote for the TV. Turn the
volume down.

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» Super Bowl sound effect.
>> Yeah, it's the reverb.

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Okay. So, I'm going to go into um or no
roll call first, please.

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» Certainly.

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» Council persons Bear
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» Dup pre
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» Nicholls
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» Ross Salceto
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» Zor
>> here.

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» And Mayor Tobin
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that um Councilwoman Ross isn't here
tonight. She's with her husband who had

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a procedure today. So, if we could all
keep her in our thoughts and prayers,

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her family. Um, and um, first off, I'm
going to start if we could um, remember

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Charles Charlie Kaminsky and his family.
Um, he lost his wife this past week,

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Pamela. They've been um, very involved
in the community for many, many years.

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Um, so just keep the family in your
thoughts and prayers. We also lost um,

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Rick Malusa. Um you can
>> M busas.

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» Thank you. Um the former owner of
Flappers. Um he's a very wonderful man,

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friend to all. Um everyone loved the
establishment when he was an owner. Um

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so keep his family in his your thoughts
and prayers. And also former sist

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» that you know I'm bad with names. um he
has also passed away. So, we're asking

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you keep his family and friends in your
prayers and thoughts. Also, um I want to

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address some things that happened last
week um about our water bills. There was

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an article on channel 4 um that was a
little overstated that um interviewed a

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residents about the water bill. Um,
I just want to say that I I reached out

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and I gave a response to Channel 4 and
the reporter completely ignored the

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response I gave. Um, everyone sitting up
here, every council member, myself,

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department head, um, we all care greatly
about what's happening with the water

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bills, with the water situations, and we
are doing everything as digital

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diligently as possible and safely to
move things forward and to get this

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corrected. Um, we wouldn't be sitting
here if we did not care. Um, the news

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reporter interviewed a city resident.
Um, I have all her water bills right

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here since 2021.
Um, what she stated in her interview

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about her water bills being $300, $350
and that we are lying and we are ripping

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people off. Her water bills are
consistently the same and she has never

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had a $300 or $350 water bill. We went
through and looked at everything. Um, I

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called her and spoke with her. She's
just very upset. She's um a nice enough

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lady. I've known the family for over 30
years. I don't know why she did what she

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did, but um she averages 11.2 units of
water on every bill. Um from 2021,

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she's had a couple bigger bills, she's
had a couple smaller bills, but every

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bill and her amount, her usage matches
the cost of the water at the time the

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bill was sent out. So, there's nothing
funny going on with our billing. We have

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some issues with our meters.
Um, they are at their end of the at the

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end of their life.
We are doing everything we can to

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correct that. If you are a resident and
you get at a bill that is abnormal,

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we're asking you to please contact us.
Contact our water department. We will

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send one of our DPS workers out to look
at your meters. If it's an estimated

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bill, they will look at your meter and
compare to what the estimate is. We will

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adjust your bill to match the usage on
your meter. We are in the process of

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replacing every meter in the city.
That's over 14,000 meters. With these

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meters, you will be able to have an app
on your phone to download to check your

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water usage. If you get a leak in your
house, it will detect the leak for you.

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You will be able to track everything.
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some of the reasons the meters are not
reading correctly right now. Um, they're

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at their end of their life. The
batteries are going, we can't get

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replacement batteries. If we're lucky
enough to get them, it can be 3 to 6

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months for us to get a battery to
replace that meter or that battery, if

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we can even get it. If it's overcast, if
it's raining, we can't get an actual

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read from your meter. So, you're going
to get an estimate read. The estimate

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reads go back
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for all those bills for those that
period of time. So two years ago, you

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could have six people in your house and
you're down to one right now. It doesn't

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matter. They're going to estimate all
the people and all the water usage for

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that period of time and that's what your
bill is going to read. So please, if

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that happens to you, come to us so we
can investigate it. We want to help. We

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don't want anybody to have a bill or
have to pay for more than what they are

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actually using. And we're very concerned
about it. And that's why we are going

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and putting in all the new meters to try
to rectify this situation. Um, this is

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something that can't be done overnight.
We need your cooperations. We need your

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patience. Um,
it's just a a an issue that we have to

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all deal with. So, I'm asking for you to
understand what's happening and please

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come to us and work with us because we
want to help. um accusing, complaining,

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um
the inaccuracies and saying all this

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stuff on social media that is not going
to help fix your water bill. What's

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going to help fix your water bill is
coming to us and let us letting us

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investigate it. We have great people in
our water department. Our DPS water

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staff are really good. They will come
out. They will investigate it. You can

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get a print out of your water usage.
It'll show where you when you're using

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your water, when you're not using your
water. It'll show spikes. Um,

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everybody's says, "I don't have a leak."
I'm going to tell you, I said the same

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thing and found a silent leak in my
house that was corrected and my water

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usage went back to normal. Um,
look forward to the new app, to the new

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water meters. We want to get this done
quickly. So when you get the letter and

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they give you the dates that you can do
it, please respond and work with them.

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We are replacing water manes. We are
replacing water lines. We are redoing

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our pump stations and our basins. We put
$35 million into the system last year to

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try to correct and lower our water loss.
Tonight, hopefully this council will

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approve us hiring a water detection
company to help us find this massive

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water loss we have. I am setting up
waiting for the date of an appointment

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with Wayne County Executive in Gleewa to
help us find the water loss. We are

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actually doing what everything we can.
Lisa, the DPS department, we're all

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working to fix this problem. We are not
pushing it under the lo rug. We are not

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not as concerned as you are. We want it
fixed just as much as you do. So, please

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reach out to us. Don't complain about it
and talk and act like we're we don't

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care. Come to us. Let us help, please.
Um, so with that being said,

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we are also audited,
highly audited on the financial end of

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everything in the city, especially with
the water. The audits all come back

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good. There is no money missing. There
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be. The accounts, like the water
accounts, cannot be used for anything

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else in the city. So, when you're out
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there's no possible way we can be
ripping you off. Everything is accounted

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for and the audits are are done and we
pass all of them. So, please put a

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little trust and faith in this council
and our department heads, our finance

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department, and know that we are working
to correct this.

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The infrastructure is old, the water
meters are old, everything is being done

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to get us back on track um as quickly,
as safely, and as responsibly as we

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possibly can. So, with that being said,
I'm going to move on. Um the next thing

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up is um we had a chocolate walk on
Saturday. It [snorts] was 13° outside.

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It was very, very cold. We had 30
businesses that signed up to be in the

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chocolate walk. I'm going to name them
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There's a park restaurant, Shaw Callers,
Labama Supermarket, Tazid Cafe, Lincoln

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Park Grill, Lincoln Park Historical
Museum, MPC Financial, Lincoln Park

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Nutrition, Plaza Antiques, St. Michael's
Church, Detroit Salsa Company, Mystery

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Escapes, Nina's Niche, Theresa's Jewelry
Workshop, ANR Music, Macaffy's Bar and

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Grill, A-Sided, K&M Law, Celebrity
Silver, Chesley's Bar, Caperee Chicken,

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First Baptist Church, Feed Right Pep
Supply, Hair Saloon, Classic Barberh

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Shop, Exotic Smoke Shop, Furniture Land,
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and Calers Dairy, and Lob Flowers. hours
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open on Saturday afternoons, but they
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enter into the raffle also.
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finished the walk. It was wonderful.
They uh they got a lot of candy, let me

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tell you. It was really good. So, right
now, we're going to start. We're going

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to pull the raffle. This right here is
the adult raffle. This is the child's

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raffle. This right here is for the first
person that finished the raft the walk.

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And this goes to Mike Corvath. He was
the first one to finish the [applause]

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walk.

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» Here you go, sir.
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[laughter]
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» Yes. SO, [applause]

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UM, Kerry here is going to pull the
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» Shake it up good.

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Okay. And the winner of the child
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Kelseer
Timuro.

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So, he is the winner. I will call him
and let him know. And Lisa is going to

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pull our adult winner.
All right. And the winner of our adult

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basket, which holds $980 in gift cards,
>> um a 50-in TV, sweet diamond earrings, a

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silver bracelet with a heart, a 1944
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» Wow.
>> Some t-shirts, and a bunch of other

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things. So now, aren't you guys sad you
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And our winner of the adult basket who
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» is Joanne WHEAT
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EVERYBODY. We're thinking of doing
another walk later in the year maybe

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around Halloween. So stay tuned and uh
we'll see what we can do.

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» She's not here.
>> I thought I saw her walk in.

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» She was behind me.
>> No. No. I haven't seen her. I haven't

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seen her tonight.
>> Okay. Well, we'll get her get it to her.

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Okay.
>> Pop in though.

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» All right. [laughter]
>> So, that was a lot of fun even though it

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was 13°. I give everybody credit. You're
all winners in my book. Um, so next we

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have um save the date of May 2nd. We're
going to be doing a new festival here in

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Lincoln Park. It's a take off of an old
festival, Everything Everyone Lincoln

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Park Festival. We are going to be
covering all the heritages in Lincoln

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Park. It should be a really great event.
And now I would like to introduce Miss

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Clifford from the Wayne County Treasury
Office, um, Compass Strategy. She's

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going to talk a little about our taxes
and how to get help if you need it.

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Welcome.
>> Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so

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much. Um, good evening everyone. Um, my
name is Anita. I am the assistant deputy

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treasurer for forfeite and foreclosure
for Wayne County. Um, serving at the

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pleasure of Mr. Eric Sabri. Um,
fortunately we are 50 days away from the

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deadline for foreclosures. So if a
person a taxpayer is not paid by March 3

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first on April 1st, technically their
property is sent over to the county and

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foreclosed. Um, we are offering several
payment plans as long as well as a

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distress owner occupant plan. um if a
person um has paid up up until 2022 but

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need assistance for the 2023 taxes, they
can enter into that um program if

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they're distressed occupant owner. Um we
also have a program for um the reduced

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interest program for all the other home
owners who are looking to stay in their

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property as well. Um we in addition to
those programs we recently started our

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homes for generation program which is
helping um heirs of property stay in the

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property and keep the family wealth
continuing.

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Um and I have folders for all the
council members as well. Um we have any

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questions?

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» Okay.
>> Thank you. Thank you so Thank you so

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very much.

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Thank you very much.
Oh, you broke all the pockets.

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[laughter] I need to glue them. Thank
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» I think that's the first time it's ever
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» No, it's not.
>> Thank you so much. I appreciate this so

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much. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Anita.

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» Thank you very much.

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» Okay, so now we're going to move on. I'm
going to do an appointment to the safety

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commission. A mayoral appointment to

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Okay. So,
it's the public safety commission

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appointment. Is he here?
>> Mhm.

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» Joseph, would you come up, please?
>> I'll swear a minute after.

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» Okay.
>> Just read that and then I'll swear a

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minute.
>> I'm going to stand and read this cuz

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it's okay. Hi sir, how are you?
>> Can I take one of those? [laughter]

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» We all want to take one of those. So,
um, I hereby appoint Joseph Lorenzo. Say

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it right. Loreno.
>> Loreno to the public safety commission

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for a term to expire 12:3031.
>> Okay.

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» Okay. I'm going to go ahead and swear
you in. So, if you raise your right

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hand, please. I, Joseph Loreno, do
solemnly swear that I will support the

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Constitution of the United States and
the Constitution of this state and that

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I will faithfully perform the duties of
the office of public safety commissioner

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in and for the city of Lincoln Park
according to the best of my abilities.

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So help me God. Thank you. You could
just SIGN

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[applause]

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over [laughter] the stuff.
>> Former firefighter Mor. Yes,

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you know

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» that's your dad.
>> That's a big

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love.
>> Yeah. He looks familiar sitting out

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there.

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» Is that one?
>> Yeah. He's still putting that thing on.

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If I get dead out there and then it's
dead. [laughter]

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» And that sounds just like him actually.
All right. So now we're going to move on

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to the consent agenda.
Resolved. A approved minutes regular

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meeting January 26, 2026. Approve
accounts and claims payable. Attend

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training FD. The training.
>> Why is that?

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» There's two trainings. Attend training
FD renew local franchise agreement

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direct TV.
>> So move

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» support. Cler call the roll.
>> Council persons Duprey.

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» Yes.
>> Salceto.

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» Yes.
>> Bear.

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» Yes.
>> Nicholls.

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» Yes.
>> Zor.

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» Yes.
>> And Mayor Tobin.

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» Yes.
>> Thank you. [clears throat]

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» We're going to go to the action items.
A. Approve deficit.

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» Uh thank you mayor. So we have two
deficit elimination plans that we are

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required to file um in 2023 our
information technology fund and from two

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2024 our water and sewer fund. So
because we did not bring in enough

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revenue to cover the expenses we entered
into a deficit situation and we are

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required to file deficit elimination
plans until the deficit from that year

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is fully eliminated. Um, based on
projections, the information technology

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fund should come fully out of the
deficit this current fiscal year and the

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water and sewer fund is a little bit
further out. Um, a lot of variable

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factors there. We talked about the water
and sewer fund a lot in relation to um,

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water billing as well, our water loss.
Those are all things that contribute to

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the deficit in the fund. Um, so I am
looking for approval on the information

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technology deficit elimination and the
water and sewer. And I just did want to

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mention one other thing that these are
just preliminary projections looking

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into the future. So of course there's so
many things that can happen between now

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and even the end of the current fiscal
year. So these are all projections based

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on our estimates of volume sales, volume
purchases, and um, so it's it's all a

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moving target that we're shooting for.
Resolve that the mayor and council

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approve the deficit elimination plan for
the information technology fund as

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attached to the fiscal year ending 0630
2025

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» move support
>> any discussion

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call the role
>> council persons Nichols yes Ross

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» I'm sorry
>> yes

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» dup pre
>> yes

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» yes zor
>> yes

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» and
>> yes

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» sorry
>> um next we'll go on to leak detect Nope.

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Wait a minute. There's another one.
>> Sorry. It's two resolutions under one

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cover letter.
>> Yeah.

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» You want me to read it?
>> Resolve that the mayor and council

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approved the deficit elimination plan
for the water and sewer fund as attached

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for the fiscal year ending 6:30 2025.
>> Move

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discussion
>> to the chair.

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» Okay.
I I do have discussion on the water, but

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I was going to wait till the next item
on the agenda.

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» Well, then you have to wait till we
discuss we get there to discuss it.

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» Okay. It's they're all related, but
that's okay. We'll we'll we'll get

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there.
>> Okay. All right.

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» Thank you.
>> Anyone else?

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» Clerk, call the role.
>> Council persons Nichols, yes. Dupra,

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» yes.
>> Bear,

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» yes.
>> Salceto, yes. Zor,

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» I'm going to say no at this time.
>> Okay. And Mayor Tobin.

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» Yes.

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» Okay. So, next we're going to the leak
detection.

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» Hey, so tonight we are seeking approval
for leak detection services through

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Alpha Penion Company. Um, as you know,
we've been dealing with over 40% water

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loss for a few years now. Um, we do have
an inside crew that has been looking for

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leaks within the system. We have found
some, but we do feel that it's um, it

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would be very beneficial to the city to
bring in an outside company that can

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work with us to look for larger leaks
that we're not able to pick up with our

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equipment. Um, and an additional thing
that this company will do is work with

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our current employees and do some
additional training for them, work with

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them on ways that they can look for
leaks going forward. Um, the Nashian

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company and I hope I'm saying that
right. Um, is very well known in the

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industry. They've done a lot of work.
They actually have done some work for us

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in the past as well, but they do work
for Gleewa become highly recommended by

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them. Um, as you may recall, we've
talked about the article regarding

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Romulus. They did their leak dete
detection as well. So, this is just

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another piece of the puzzle that we're
looking for um in relation to changing

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all the meters that's going to help our
water loss, but this is um very

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important and crucial for the city. They
are able to start in March um if council

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approves it and it'll take approximately
3 months and Eric from Venesian Company

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is here tonight to answer any questions
that you may have as well.

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» Okay. Resolve that the mayor and council
authorize Alfred Bach and company to

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perform leak detection services
throughout the city for a cost not to

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exceed $119,500
from account 592-920-81800

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move
>> support

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» discussion
first of all m Eric can you please

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explain your process on what you're
going to do for the city.

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» Please.

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» Uh, good evening everyone. Can you hear
me?

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» Good evening.
>> Um, my name is Eric Tucker and I'm with

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Alfred Benish and Company. And uh to
councilman's uh uh question as to our

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approach and what we're going to be
doing for the city, uh Benish has done

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water audits, leak detections for
many almost all of the communities in at

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some point throughout southeast
Michigan. Um the city we've noticed, we

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actually met with the uh the city uh
officials here um you know uh um uh city

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manager Lisa Griggs as well as uh
director uh Kosu and the city has taken

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some phenomenal steps towards shoring up
both their apparent and real losses. So

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in our discussions I kind of uh was able
to ascertain some things that would be

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helpful in the process and it sounds
like with leak leak detection I mean

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with uh water losses on the order of 40
or even more uh percent water loss it's

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highly unlikely that these um this total
loss is due just to the apparent losses

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or your cash res your your retail meters
that you're collecting. So I do think

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that you do have a problem with physical
loss in your system. Um I know that the

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city has made some strides in terms of
procuring your own leak detection uh

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equipment which you know I you know that
is uh to be commended. Um but what I've

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learned in this business and we've been
doing it a really long time.

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Leak detection is is less of a science
and more of an art. We've been doing it

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for over 25 years now. leak detection.
So, our uh experienced uh leak detection

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specialists and technicians um they go
through uh a varied approach. They know

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what to look for, you know, during the
investigation. They do everything from

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checking the surroundings, getting
visual cues for what is what is

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happening and then also understanding
what the equipment is telling you and

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also what it's not telling you. It's
more than just reading the acoustics and

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the vibrations and the time that it
sends a signal through and forgive me if

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uh if some of this is but the council
may be a little bit familiar.

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» I understand you you're okay.
>> Yes. Okay. And so um

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» so what we what we do is we we have a
way of converging uh on leaks through

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our process. So it's almost a process of
elimination to find out and to make sure

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that we also make sure that there's
repeatability in terms of the integrity

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of the sound the the signal to noise
ratio in order to ensure that this is

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the spot. Uh dur in our in our uh uh
marketing materials we often say that uh

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we can pretty much get you within uh
within 10 ft. In actualities, we we tend

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to do a lot [laughter] a lot better than
that. Uh so that it actually can

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minimize the amount of uh um uh
restoration and replacement time uh for

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the city, especially if you have limited
forces and you throughout your DPS

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department to have to uh make those
repairs. Um, so what we want to do in is

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sort of to kind of piggyback off of uh
what you guys have already started down

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the way and and and again I give kudos
to having a a dedicated uh league

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detection crew in place, but it's going
to take um uh some repetitions um uh to

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do that. We we'll show them techniques
and strategies that we found that have

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worked for us and have proven a very
high success rate. Uh and it's most most

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communities call us after they've
exhausted a lot of other things because

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they know including the city of Detroit
when and they have leak detection. We've

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also gone to other communities that have
leak detection equipment and it's still

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sitting in the box because they realize
that it's it's more than a notion to

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just buy it and then it and it and it uh
does it. We help to find the blind leaks

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often times where uh leaks aren't
surfacing uh or often times you know you

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complaints aren't coming in due to drops
in pressure. finding those blind leaks

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are are are really helpful because
sometimes there could be cat it could be

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pending catastrophic failure if they're
you know if water is spewing out and

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it's eroding the surrounding soils
underneath paved roads structures uh

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that can cause great collapse. We've
saved our clients a great deal of money.

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Uh, usually our services are just a
fraction of what it is that you guys are

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probably paying in loss loss water
revenue when you purchase from GLWA, but

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aren't necessarily able to recoup that
on the other end from the your uh your

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retail customers. So that delta it it
sums up to to your water loss whether

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that's through mechanical failures
within your existing water meters or in

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physical loss through your
infrastructure and piping. Sometimes

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leaks they migrate and get right into
the sewer system. They they go on for

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like that for years and no one will ever
know. So uh I like that you guys are one

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getting new meters. the meters are able
to have they have a detection system in

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place to be able because that's as the
mayor uh mentioned toilets running and

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sometimes you don't even notice it and
it just kind of goes silent for for a

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long time. This is uh no now that's
actually you know that's not water loss

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cuz you're capturing in it but it's the
same s same type of um theory but it

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when it happens in your distribution
system you don't get a chance to

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recapture that uh that revenue. So, uh,
I know that was a long long roundabout

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question answer, but hopefully that
encompassed some of what you wanted.

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Councilman,
>> basically though, you're just an

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acoustic.
You only are doing this acoustically.

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Correct.
>> That is correct.

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» You're You're not doing infrared. You're
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» N.
>> You're not doing sonar.

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» N
>> just acoustic.

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» Yes. Yes. And
>> same thing that our guys are doing,

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John. Correct. 35 hours a week.
So uh even you know you and again you've

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done your homework on this uh the
acoustic and the infrareds often times

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there's flyovers and things like that
they can do create sort of like heat

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maps to kind of give uh some some
lushness in terms of the density of

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where it is but at the end of the day
even with those methodologies there's

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still the the process of correlation and
pinpointing that is still

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» required and that is the component that
We have developed some expertise

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uh in in that in that way and um and
through triangulation and and again

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converging on uh on that in order to u
shorten the spans where we're able to to

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essentially pinpoint where that leak is
going to be.

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» How many guys do you have when they're
um

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» we typically work with a crew of of two
people for safety uh for safety reasons.

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Um, you know, again, sometimes you're
working in some of the colder weathers.

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You could be slip and fall hazards. I
don't want anybody falling in storm

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drains and and things like that. So, we
typically work uh in a crew of two uh

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for that. So, thank you.
>> So, the chair, if you don't mind, do you

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have a question?
>> So, your your equipment compared to our

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equipment, what's the difference? I
actually uh mayor I have not seen uh or

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or know what type of equipment that the
city of Lincoln Park uh currently has.

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Um I haven't I haven't seen I've
inquired and we've asked that should uh

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council and the city grant us an
opportunity that would be one of the

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first things in the in the kickoff
meeting uh to uh that we would that we

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00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,679
would ask us to turn over that
information so we can see how they can

413
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,200
best utilize it
>> equipment that we already have. Mhm.

414
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:29,120
» And I mean it would be a different
aspect. Why would we hire you if we have

415
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:34,880
the equipment? Maybe we would just hire
your guys to use our equipment. I mean,

416
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,440
it would kind of be silly to to you to
hire you and your equipment when

417
00:33:36,113 --> 00:33:41,679
[snorts] we already have the equipment
and you guys are the experts. Why would

418
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,120
we
>> you know what I'm saying? I

419
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,120
» I think I think I get what I think I get
what you're saying. equipment

420
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,919
guys are better trained and more
knowledgeable.

421
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:57,200
» I'm not sure I'm not sure if we have the
same equipment. So that would be kind of

422
00:33:53,760 --> 00:34:02,080
onehanded after after the other. So what
>> the appro the approach that we've kind

423
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:07,440
of uh proposed uh to the city as it
relates to that is again

424
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:13,839
» we you know we don't assume to be expert
in that type of uh the equipment that

425
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:18,800
you may have. We have mastered ours and
we have multiple uh uh you know uh

426
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:23,359
different different uh correlation
equipment. So what we what I I proposed

427
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:29,200
this is you know what this will give an
opportunity for we go through and we use

428
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:34,480
our equipment and then when we come up
with it they can they can corroborate

429
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:39,200
and using using the city's equipment and
see there may be a difference in hertz

430
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,760
and frequencies in terms of things like
that. I don't know their outstations in

431
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:49,119
terms of uh uh the pods that they that
they use, what type of contacts they are

432
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:54,000
for transmission of signal. Again, I
would need to uh to see that, but for us

433
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,839
to to do it, my team would definitely
want to use our equipment.

434
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,079
» John, do you know what kind of equipment
we have?

435
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:08,480
So, sewerin
uh we got the device

436
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:15,480
I want to say back in 20
20.

437
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Uh so it's a couple years old. Um

438
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:27,119
sorry I'm not that loud. Uh yeah, we got
like a device. Um the the big sales

439
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:32,800
pitch for the device we had was the um
we had used it to locate a a leak on

440
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Lune Avenue um that was going right into
a a catch basin. So at least for our

441
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:44,160
equipment we know it's it's proven
useful at some point in time. Um it's

442
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:47,839
just a matter of a lot of finetuning. Um
like these guys have probably have done

443
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:53,040
it a lot a lot more than I have a lot
more than our guys have. Um I mean just

444
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,160
a mix with water main brakes and all
that other stuff. I don't mean to take

445
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,760
too much time but you know we we
>> is about 5 years old now.

446
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:03,000
» Yeah. Yep.
>> Thank you.

447
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:12,160
» I um and I and I you know what and this
actually is probably uh the fact that

448
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:18,640
you have an an independent source of and
type of equipment. it may actually offer

449
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:26,800
uh a higher level of confidence
uh for the city in terms of you know uh

450
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:31,680
making the repair at that location if
you know a completely different set of

451
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:36,880
equipment says oh no it is here and they
may be off one or two feet but that's

452
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:40,480
still one excavator bucket uh apart
there's a greater level of confidence

453
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:46,720
that when you send a crew you dispatch a
crew there for a repair uh you get that

454
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:52,240
and then they get the hang of uh of uh
what they're going to be doing um you

455
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,040
know in parallel with us.
>> Thank you.

456
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,440
» Your your honor, my question was almost
going to be yours. You said you met with

457
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,720
the [clears throat] city manager and the
DPS director, but you never saw our

458
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,040
equipment. That's what you're telling
us. You never saw our equipment. You

459
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,760
only know if our equipment is better
than your equipment. That right?

460
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,800
» Well, it just said I'm just saying that
was my question already answered it. So,

461
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,920
thank you very much, your honor. I have
no more questions. Yep.

462
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:18,880
» To to to the chair.
>> I have one.

463
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:25,839
» Um would you would this be able to help
us determine our water loss that our

464
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:32,079
water main breaks are producing that may
be independent of like you said blind

465
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:37,680
loss or structural loss?
>> Uh well no it's you know and again this

466
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:42,960
is acoustic. It's not uh an infrared, so
it's not going to give you any any

467
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:48,560
indication of the wall thickness where
you know any predictive failure of uh

468
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,480
water manes or anything anything like
that. The equipment doesn't do that.

469
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:57,119
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Anybody else?

470
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:01,119
» Um
no, I'll just save it. I'll save I would

471
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:07,760
like to make a comment though before the
vote. Is that possible? I'll

472
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:13,359
» make it now. the um personally I
I I think I thought we were going to be

473
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:20,160
a more of a collaborative effort to come
up with um efforts to resolve the issues

474
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:24,240
of the water loss.
>> Um

475
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:28,400
» that's that's their job. That's their
job, not our job. They bring it what

476
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:34,480
they decide. They bring what they think
is the best venue to us and we make the

477
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:41,280
decision to go for it or not. It's a
only I can fix it. I got it. Okay.

478
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:45,839
» No, that's okay.
>> I just I want to say one additional item

479
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:50,640
is that we did consult with an outside
engineer um who holds our S1 license and

480
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:55,599
we did discuss some of these other
alternate technologies that could be

481
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:59,440
used and there's been some success but
also some failures that they're finding

482
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:05,119
with them as well. So that's why we felt
this was the best route to go.

483
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:09,200
» Anyone else?
Okay. We saw the mayor and council

484
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:14,160
authorized Alfred Bach and company to
form leak detection services throughout

485
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:19,280
the city for a cost not to exceed 19,500
from account 592 920

486
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,160
81800
0.

487
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,960
» I have a mover and supporter.
>> You have it.

488
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,720
» Yep.
>> I did read that.

489
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,960
» You did.
>> Cler call the role.

490
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480
» Council persons Nichols.
>> Yes.

491
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520
» Duprey. Yes.
>> Bear.

492
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,880
» Yes.
>> Salceto.

493
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,160
» No.
>> Zor.

494
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,040
» No.
>> Mayor Tobin.

495
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040
» Yes.

496
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:45,680
» Okay. Moving on. Resolve the resolution
2026-019

497
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,760
regarding ballot language for proposed
charter amendment to renew the current

498
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:54,880
police and fire millillage be and is
hereby rescended.

499
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:58,079
» Move. Support.
>> Discussion.

500
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,760
color.
>> Council persons Nichols,

501
00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:00,960
» yes.
>> Bear,

502
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,079
» yes.
>> Duprey,

503
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,200
» yes.
>> Salceto,

504
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,040
» yes.
>> Zor,

505
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640
» yes.
>> And Mayor Tobin,

506
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:10,000
» yes.
>> Thank you.

507
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:15,680
» Resolve that notice is hereby given that
a proposed charter amendment regarding a

508
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:19,119
millage renewal be submitted to the
to the electors of the city of Lincoln

509
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:25,599
Park at the primary election to be held
Tuesday, August 4th, 2026. Further be it

510
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:30,240
resolved that send notice states
how both this charter presently reads

511
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,800
and the proposal charter amendment
language.

512
00:40:32,043 --> 00:40:36,560
[cough]
Excuse me.

513
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:43,720
Notice the proposed charter amendment
number one charter 7 section 5 renewal

514
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,720
police and fire millillage.

515
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,680
» Go ahead.
>> The ballot question is as follows. It is

516
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:55,520
proposed that the city of Lincoln Park
be authorized to continue to levy 3.4591

517
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:59,920
mil in excess of the limitation imposed
by law, restoring a portion of the

518
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:04,319
charter millage authorization previously
approved by the electors since reduced

519
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:09,920
by the Headley amendment solely for
police and fire purposes for three

520
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:15,880
additional years 2026 through 2029. If
approved, the millage renewal would

521
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,880
generate approximately 2,747,921

522
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:24,560
in 2027. Shall the proposed charter
amendment millage renewal be approved.

523
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:29,680
Now, therefore, be it resolved by a
35ths vote of the city council of

524
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:33,760
Lincoln Park that ch section five of
chapter 7 of the city charter be

525
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,680
amended. The city has determined that if
this amendment is approved, it will

526
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:43,359
become effective pursuant to Michigan
Compiled Law 117.24

527
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:47,599
when filed with the county clerk and the
secretary of state. Chapter 7, section 5

528
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:52,000
of the city charter. The existing
charter reads, "Authorize a tax of not

529
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:57,920
to exceed 3.4591
mills for 3 years 2023 through 2026

530
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:02,240
solely for police and fire purposes."
The proposed charter amendment will

531
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:09,119
read, "Authorize a renewal of the
millillage not to exceed 3.4591

532
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:13,599
mills for 3 years 2026 through 2029
solely for police and fire purposes.

533
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:16,400
» Any discussion?
>> We need a mover.

534
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,680
» I'll move.
>> Any discussion?

535
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,839
» Cler call the role.
>> Council person Salceto,

536
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,040
» yes.
>> Nichols,

537
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,160
» yes.
>> Bayer,

538
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920
» yes.
>> Dupra,

539
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,160
» yes.
>> Zor,

540
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:36,520
» yes. and Mayor Tobin.
>> Yes. Moving on. Extend contract

541
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,520
sidewalk. Mr. Kazoo.

542
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:47,760
Good evening, mayor and council and
audience. The item before you is Katie

543
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:51,920
Cement LLC is uh they're the company
that does our sidewalk replacement

544
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:56,480
program
and they've offered to extend their 20

545
00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:02,480
excuse me they offered to extend their
2022

546
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:08,800
low red unit rates for the 2026 sidewalk
program. Right now the 4-in sidewalk is

547
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:13,119
1125 per square foot. The 6 in is uh
1250 per square foot. This extension

548
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,160
allows the city to continue the program
without increased costs typically

549
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:23,280
associated with uh uh rebidding
financial impact. The sidewalk program

550
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:28,000
is funded through capital improvement
funds and with cost subsequently

551
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:33,040
invoiced to the individual homeowners
address where the work is uh completed.

552
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:37,440
Maintaining the current unit rates helps
control the program cost and limits

553
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:44,160
financial impact to the residents.
recommendation is to uh uh accept the

554
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:48,480
offer by Katie Cement and attaches a
resolution to that effect. It resolved

555
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:54,079
that the mayor and city council approve
the Great Lakes contracting

556
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:59,839
KD
mayor and council approved KD cements

557
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:05,040
contract extension for the 2026 side
repair program for the 20 at the 2022

558
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:09,280
unit rates with program cost funded
through capital improvement funds and

559
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:14,359
invoice to the individual property where
the work is completed. move.

560
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,400
» Any discussion
to the chair?

561
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,880
» That was the
>> um the [laughter] only thing I'm I'm

562
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:29,119
going to say and I say it for all the
the contractors.

563
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:35,280
[clears throat] Again, this is a
contractor that's not that's in Commerce

564
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:40,400
Township, not in Lincoln Park. And we we
have cement or concrete contractors in

565
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:46,400
Lincoln Park.
and we're we never

566
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:52,200
communicate with them. I I I just wanted
to make that statement.

567
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,200
» Understood. Anyone else?

568
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,119
» Clerk, call the role.
>> Council persons Nichols,

569
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,319
» yes.
>> Duprey,

570
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,359
» yes.
>> Bear,

571
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,480
» yes.
>> Salceto,

572
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,079
» yes.
>> Zor,

573
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,599
» no. [clears throat]
>> And Mayor Tobin,

574
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,000
» yes.
>> Okay.

575
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,400
» Thank you, Mayor Council.
>> Thank you, John.

576
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:23,079
That was the Yeah.
>> Hi, Chief. Hi.

577
00:45:23,521 --> 00:45:28,800
[laughter]
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir.

578
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,960
» Good evening, Mayor and Council.
>> Evening. Uh, police department has

579
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:38,586
requested mayor and council wave the
formal bidding process and authorize the

580
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:43,280
lease of a 2026 Chevy Silverado pickup.
[clears throat] Vehicle will be

581
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:47,520
replacing a police vehicle that has been
decommissioned. The vehicle will be

582
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:53,359
leased from Enterprise Fleet Management
and outfitted by Canfield Equipment who

583
00:45:50,880 --> 00:46:00,920
is one of their vendors. Enterprise
participates in the state bid pricing.

584
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,920
Cost of the Silverado was $7,15712

585
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:05,160
which includes $22,210.70

586
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:13,839
for the upfitting
um through Canfield. The funds will come

587
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:17,119
from the vehicle lease payments count
661

588
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,560
932
947

589
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,000
is recommended that mayor and council
approve this resolution.

590
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,119
Whereas the Lincoln Park Police
Department is requesting to lease one

591
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:32,800
2026 Chevrolet Silverado. Be it resolved
that the mayor and council authorize the

592
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:38,480
police department to wave the bidding
process and purchase a one 2026

593
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:41,480
Chevrolet Silverado for a total cost of
$7,157

594
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:47,760
which includes the cost of uplifting the
Campfield Equipment Service Incorporated

595
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:52,560
from Enterprise Fleet Management to
qualify state bid participant. via

596
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:58,000
further resolves. Funds for the purchase
of the 2026 Chevrolet Silverado to come

597
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,720
from the vehicle lease payable payment
account 661-932-947.

598
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,800
» Move
any discussion through the chair, your

599
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:12,160
honor, real quick. I know Silverado are
made in like Fort Wayne and Flint, but

600
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:15,599
they're also made in Mexico. Do you know
where this particular vehicle is made?

601
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:21,280
» Uh, they won't even start making it
until um No. No, not yet.

602
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,680
to the chair.
>> Yes.

603
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:28,240
» Chief, the vehicle that you're replacing
is did you is it an auction or is it a

604
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:32,560
lease return?
>> It will be a vehicle that we had paid

605
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:35,760
and we will auction it off down the
road.

606
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,480
» They still have to be commissioned to
have all the equipment pulled out and

607
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,599
such.
>> Anyone else?

608
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,880
Cler call the role.
>> Council persons Nichols. Yes. Dupra.

609
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:47,280
» Yes. Bear.
>> Yes.

610
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:53,119
» Salceto.
>> Yes. Sore

611
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:57,440
» wish it was a Ford but yes
>> and Mayor Tobin

612
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:01,599
» I agree. Yes.
>> Thank you.

613
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,480
» We are not going to have a department
head report today

614
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,440
» for Lisa though.
>> Oh we're going to have a city manager

615
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,200
report.
>> I'll keep it quick. Um I just wanted to

616
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,680
bring everybody up to date on where
where we stand with the new meter

617
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,839
install project. Um, so HydroCorp is the
contractor that's doing the installs on

618
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:26,240
our behalf. Um, they've sent out letters
to everybody in district 3 so far. Um,

619
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:31,359
so as of today, they've installed 246
meters and they have appointments for

620
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:36,000
another 116. Um, we've also installed
approximately 100 of our own over the

621
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,200
last month, month and a half or so. Um,
so if you have received the letter from

622
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,240
them, I believe they've started sending
out the second notices for that

623
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:46,400
district. So, please reach out to them
and get your get your appointment to

624
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:50,559
have the meter installed. Um, they're
pretty flexible on the days and times,

625
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:55,599
so they should have something that can
work for everyone. Um, even those that

626
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:59,119
work during the day. Um, so right now we
are working on district three. We'll be

627
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,400
moving into district 4 in the coming
weeks. Um, and you would know what

628
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,839
district you're in by your account
number on your water bill. So, if it

629
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:10,960
starts with a three, then you're in
district three. Um, and then if you have

630
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,319
not received a notice from HydroCorp
yet, you cannot make your appointment.

631
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:17,680
So until you get that notification from
them, please do not try to schedule your

632
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:21,680
appointment. We're trying to do it in
groups to keep everything pretty

633
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:28,160
concise. Um, we're very excited to get
this new system in and up and running.

634
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:32,160
Um, the the towers for reading the
meters. Um, we can read them now. We

635
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,720
just have to do a driveby. Um, but they
are working on getting the

636
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:39,680
infrastructure all up in place by the
end of this month. Um there were some

637
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:44,160
delays with some of um the FCC license
that they need for the equipment, but

638
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:48,079
they are moving along now. So that's all
I have for now.

639
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:53,359
» Anybody have anything for Lisa?
>> To the chair.

640
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:57,760
» Lisa, I told you about a leak, a water
leak at Ferris and Southfield

641
00:49:55,839 --> 00:50:02,960
» several weeks ago. Correct.
>> Correct. I originally reported that leak

642
00:50:01,899 --> 00:50:07,119
[clears throat]
uh in June of 23.

643
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,280
» Oh, okay.
>> With Mr. Kroan.

644
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,480
» Mhm.
>> Um it and it's been it's been broke

645
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:22,000
several times. It's been the same issue
every time. It's the gate issue

646
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:25,920
not and it so it's been leaking now for
three weeks.

647
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:30,240
» Yeah. And we just spoke actually right
before the meeting about a plan to get

648
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:33,920
some of our gate valves and the
different leaks that are going on right

649
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,240
now, get those addressed. Um, we've been
bombarded of course with the the main

650
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:42,480
brakes which have taken priority, but we
do have several items we've got to get

651
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:48,000
addressed this week.
>> This isn't going to end up like our um

652
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:54,319
where remember the alleys getting
cleaned up and Mr. Kan couldn't get uh

653
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:57,520
anybody from DPS to work and help and do
it overtime. He offered all the

654
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,119
overtime.
>> I can tell you the guys have been

655
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:04,079
working a ton of overtime and I'm sure
they would love to have a day off here

656
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:08,160
very soon.
>> Thank you,

657
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,440
John. They just fixed it today.
>> Oh, did they?

658
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,079
» Yeah.
>> Well, there you go.

659
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,079
» Yeah. Come on up, John.

660
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:25,359
I'd like to offer uh the mayor and
council and the audience a little uh

661
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:32,400
information about this cold weather, how
the cold weather does and impact and

662
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:38,400
definitely uh elim uh helps complicate
the situations.

663
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:47,440
Uh January 1 through February 9th, so
let's call that a month. We've had uh 34

664
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:54,400
water main breaks and 20 of them started
or I should say 30 of them started since

665
00:51:50,720 --> 00:52:00,319
January 20th when we got into the colder
uh weather. The other thing is with our

666
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:05,440
system being uh older, our uh water
manes being older, with the frost that

667
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:09,680
we're going through, frost is very hard
on water manes. Our water manes have

668
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,520
approximately five, five and a half, six
feet of burial depth in clay. And right

669
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:22,079
now we're finding that the clo uh frost
is approximately 4 and 1/2 ft deep. As

670
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:29,920
that clay freezes, it does move the pipe
and the pipe being cast iron does not do

671
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:36,640
real well with being moved.
Uh we've had a number of

672
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:42,079
uh service leads which we don't know
what standards or what depths they were

673
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:47,920
put in back in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s
because the 10 state standards didn't

674
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:52,960
come into being until the mid 1950s
where they pretty much the 12 states

675
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:58,240
came up with how deep some of this stuff
is being buried. Same thing with the

676
00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:05,440
sanitary systems.
Uh we have uh frozen water services and

677
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:10,000
those are always a first and high
priority because homes or homeowners or

678
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:15,359
families are without water. So we have
to get them water. So that's why they're

679
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:18,480
always higher on our priority list list.
What we've done is we've taken our

680
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:23,200
eightman crew and we've broken it up
into two crews. One crew is trying to uh

681
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:30,559
thaw out the water surfaces for the
homeowners and the others are trying to

682
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:35,680
continue to repair water main brakes.
We also have uh

683
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:40,000
two
uh gate valves that are still leaking.

684
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:49,559
One of them is at Ferris and Southville
which is scheduled for tomorrow. Uh and

685
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:49,559
the other one is at 1804 capital.

686
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:59,359
Uh we have four fire hydrants that are
either leaking or frozen

687
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,640
and one of those is on Detroit and that
one has come up quite a bit.

688
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:11,040
So basically what it a lot of it boils
down to we take the higher priority

689
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:17,359
water leaks whether it's a water man a
gate valve a frozen hydrant

690
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:22,480
a split water service
and we have to do those with or put

691
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,760
higher priorities on those items. But we
still have some that are still out

692
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:31,599
there. And it looks like we're going to
be getting some warm up here starting

693
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:35,119
tomorrow. And hopefully this warm-up
brings the frost out of the ground

694
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:41,599
slowly
so we don't get too many more breaks.

695
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:47,599
But our crews have been working
sometimes as maximum as 27 hours

696
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:52,960
and it's a long day in this cold
weather.

697
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:58,160
And if anybody doubts that, I'll lend
you my pair of boots.

698
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:02,640
But with that being said, we are not the
only community and you see that on the

699
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:09,200
news all the time. You see it in
Detroit. I know that has happened in

700
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:14,079
Trenton, Southgate, WOT, Allen Park,
Lincoln Park, and we're just part of the

701
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:18,000
wonderful weather and the older
communities that are out there. That's

702
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:24,640
all I wanted to add. if anybody has any
questions. Myself and Justin Gonzalez is

703
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:29,520
here and Justin is presently on call for
tonight.

704
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:32,160
» Thank you, John. Thank you, Justin.
>> Thank you, guys.

705
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:34,960
» The chair, your honor,
>> appreciate your work. Thank you.

706
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:38,160
» We're still under city manager report.
Lisa, I had the building department

707
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:41,760
wasn't here today, but on the four part
bone alley over here, I noticed a green

708
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:45,920
sticker on the door last couple days.
Any movement on that building?

709
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:49,040
» Yes, they were doing an inspection of
the building. So there's active movement

710
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,839
on it. Yes.
>> Maybe going up for sale here soon or I

711
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,000
can
>> sure. We're just we're trying to get it

712
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,160
up to code is our our goal and what they
choose to do with it from there will be

713
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:01,920
seen.
>> Can I last thing I know I mentioned this

714
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:06,640
about seven weeks ago. The old Farmer
Jack building. Any movement on that one?

715
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:11,480
» Um I do not have an update but I can get
one for next meeting that'd be fine.

716
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:20,319
» Thank you. Um, I just I I when I was
speaking earlier, I forgot to mention

717
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:25,680
that um a lot of a lot of people have
been bringing up that Lincoln Park has

718
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:30,319
the highest water rates [cough]
the area and I just want everyone to

719
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:36,960
know we do not have the highest water
rates in the area. Um there are three

720
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:42,160
cities higher than us and another city
that if you add um their fees for

721
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:47,760
quarterly fees on top of their water
bill, they would be higher than us also.

722
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:51,920
So um when you hear that Lincoln Parks
got the highest water rates out of

723
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:57,520
anybody. Do not believe it. It is not
true. We are one of the top four of the

724
00:56:54,799 --> 00:57:02,000
but we are fourth in line. And if you
add a quarterly rate that someone else

725
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:10,079
is adding on, we are fifth. We are the
fifth. There's four, five ahead of us at

726
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:14,400
the rate as so it's not true. We are
doing the best we can and hopefully if

727
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:19,280
we can get a handle on this um the rates
will stabilize. So we just know we are

728
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,880
working on it. I just wanted to add that
to Lisa's report because we have it

729
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,799
right here.
>> And I'll add even further to that. We

730
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:30,960
have I know there's a lot of talk that
we haven't put in for federal grant

731
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:35,200
funding. We put in for several um
federal and state grant. We've been

732
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:39,440
fortunate with with some avenues, but we
did put in for lots of grants last year.

733
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:43,440
We have not gotten any of those. Some of
them are going to be opening up again

734
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:47,839
soon. So, we will once again try to um
get some additional money for water mane

735
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:52,640
replacements.
>> Real soon.

736
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:57,760
Okay. Anybody have anything else?
All right. Then at this time, we will go

737
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:03,359
into citizens communications. Please
come up. State your name and um you have

738
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:06,799
three minutes, sir.
>> I'm not sure if I'm actually supposed to

739
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:10,480
stand up. I'm almost death and I
couldn't hear everything you said. My

740
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:15,680
name is Timothy Price. My address is
2078 Michigan Boulevard. I'm calling

741
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:21,040
about some complaints, you know, water
department. They come out, there's

742
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:26,559
leaks. Not my fault, not their fault,
but they come out one leak, two leaks,

743
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:32,240
three leaks, four leaks, five leaks.
Wait. They bust up my driveway one time,

744
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:36,400
two times, three times, four. They bust
up my next door neighbor's driveway.

745
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:42,640
They bust up the next door ne the
driveway next to that. They've replaced

746
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:49,440
one, not mine. Wait, they busted up the
curb all along the road. Fix the curbs,

747
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:54,960
you know, fix the driveways. You can
look at my concrete and every picture of

748
00:58:52,000 --> 00:59:02,480
the concrete that might show a new crack
is always right after they repaired it

749
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:05,280
again. Okay, maybe I'm barking over the
water bill. You talked about the meter

750
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:09,520
and everything. I couldn't hear
everything. You guys don't don't make it

751
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:13,920
handicapped accessible on turning this
volume up. I need to hear or read on a

752
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,839
screen. It would be really nice to be
able to stay focused on what you're

753
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:23,520
saying because I can't I can't see well
enough to see read lips. That's that's

754
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:29,599
wrong for you guys to do that. NOW, MY
BILL, MAYBE I have health issues. I get

755
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:35,920
my water bill and I open it up. I look
at amount due. I write a check. I pay it

756
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:40,559
every time. You know, why should I come
into the downstairs and say, "Wait a

757
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:44,720
second. I paid the same amount the last
three times." Oh, you got an estimated

758
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:49,280
bill, sir. You've been having an
ESTIMATED BILL. MAYBE I DON'T LOOK AT MY

759
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:53,839
ENTIRE BILL. But maybe the water
department, maybe you guys should have

760
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:59,599
been, wait, HE'S HAD AN ESTIMATED BILL
for one year, 2 years, 5 years,

761
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:02,880
whatever. I don't know. Now, maybe that
should have been somebody in the

762
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:06,880
department should have said, "Wait, he's
had an estimated bill for too long.

763
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:12,079
Let's correct it. Find out where he
stands." I don't know what you said

764
01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:17,280
about that, but I I do know I've in good
faith every time I get a bill, I PAID

765
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:21,760
IT. NOW find out that you guys' messers
are all defaulting and you guys all want

766
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:27,280
to blame somebody else for and say, "Oh,
it'll be fixed in 3 years." That's

767
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:31,440
wrong. That's wrong.
And it's wrong about the driveways, the

768
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:36,480
streets, the curb. The water doesn't
even go past my house anymore. It used

769
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:41,359
to go past my house and end at the drain
down the street. Now it goes down and it

770
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,880
goes into the ground right there. It
doesn't even go past that my house

771
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:50,000
because they don't they haven't fixed
the concrete from what was it a year ago

772
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:53,280
or was that a year and a half ago? The
last time you guys worked or No, they

773
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,880
last time they worked over there was
about 3 months ago or 6 months before

774
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:05,960
that or 9 months. It's been every 3
MONTHS OR SO. GET THE JOB RIGHT. I have

775
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,960
some confident people.

776
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:16,079
» Please state your name.
Can I just say

777
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:20,559
» giant, can you get his address and look?
>> I do got one LAST QUESTION.

778
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:25,599
» WHEN AM I GOING TO get on clearance?
Your your time is up, sir. Your time is

779
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:30,240
up. Please be seated. Your time is up.
>> I don't want to make Please sit down.

780
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:33,520
Your time is 3 minutes.
Sir, I'm talking right here. I'm right

781
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,839
here, sir. You're 3 minutes up.
>> I can handle this,

782
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:43,599
» sir. You need to
You need to come in and let the water

783
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:48,640
department come out and look at your
meter so we can give you an actual bill.

784
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:53,599
» I asked for that be done.
>> They're going to be there tomorrow.

785
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:59,200
» Correct. They'll be at your home
tomorrow, sir. I can't hear you. If you

786
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:04,280
want to speak outside, I'll talk to you.
>> John, they'll be at his house tomorrow.

787
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:12,960
» Hi. Speak your name and go ahead.
>> Michael Horvath, the crazy old ball guy

788
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:16,559
who grew up in Lincoln Park and has
living in the house he grew up in since

789
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,200
97.
I know there's a lot of issues and you

790
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:27,119
guys inherited a lot of things you had
nothing to do with. Although I will say

791
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:31,920
they did do our water manes last year
and they did a good job on cleaning up

792
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:36,799
the streets and it seemed that
everything was done very well. And I

793
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:40,799
wanted to thank you for the chocolate
walk. It was very good. I appreciated

794
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,720
going through it, but couldn't we do it
when it's a little warmer,

795
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:50,000
please?
That's all I wanted to ask for. And

796
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:54,240
again, working through a lot and finding
the water manes and finally getting the

797
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:57,359
meters fixed. I think that'll good and
it'll take a little time to get this,

798
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:02,000
but it should get better. And I
appreciate you putting up with all these

799
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:05,400
difficult people. Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.

800
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,839
» Please state your name.

801
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:25,799
Hello everybody. My name is Kenneth
Oslander. Um, I just wanted to say, you

802
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,799
know,

803
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:33,680
I I look, I can understand that uh
things are tense. I'm not a social media

804
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:38,799
guy much. You know, I talk about
blacksmithing if if I do post it much.

805
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:44,880
But, um, you know, there's there's a lot
of tense things going on these days. And

806
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,440
in uh before I was a blacksmith, I used
to work at the executive level um in

807
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:54,640
past jobs and uh I know how it is
dealing with uh people dealing with the

808
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:59,839
public. It's not always easy and uh not
everything's rainbows and sunshine and I

809
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:04,640
get that. Um, but what I do want to say
is

810
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:10,640
genuinely speaking, what I really
appreciate about you, Mayor Tobin, and

811
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:16,880
all of you of our city council is that I
genuinely feel a sense of community, a

812
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:21,839
sense that you all care, right? Not
every uh issue is always

813
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:27,839
straightforward. Not everything is clear
and, you know, there's different uh

814
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:33,119
perspectives to how to tackle a problem.
Um, but yeah, I genuinely appreciate the

815
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:40,240
fact that you all very much seem to
care. Um, and and I appreciate that, not

816
01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:45,039
just, you know, as a resident here of
Lincoln Park, but I appreciate that just

817
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:49,039
as an observer of other cities I've
lived in in the past. Um, and I'm not,

818
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:52,480
you know, [snorts] as I say, throwing
shade at other cities. It's just an

819
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:57,760
observation I've I've made as a
resident. So, uh, you know, when it

820
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:04,240
comes to the water issue, it's
unfortunate. It's complicated. There's a

821
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:08,079
lot of factors here. Um, but it's clear
to me that you all care and that you're

822
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:12,880
trying to find a solution, which I
appreciate. Um, [snorts] and so, you

823
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:19,119
know, it's not to dismiss anybody's
concerns. You know, I get it. I totally

824
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:24,559
get it. Can be frustrating. Sure. Um but
yeah, I think that's the big takeaway

825
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:29,119
for me is that you all care and um you
are clearly trying to find a solution.

826
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:35,200
So I think we could spend a lot of time
talking about what should be uh what

827
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:40,319
should have been etc etc. These are all
valid points we could bring up all day

828
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:45,920
long. But I think at some point you know
it's like hey thank you guys for caring.

829
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,880
Thank you for doing what you do and
just, you know, putting in the effort.

830
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,160
So, I appreciate that. That's all I
desire.

831
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,680
» Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you, sir.

832
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,559
» Very much.
>> Anybody else like to

833
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:05,599
» Good evening, Mayor and Council Richard
Kudra. Not all of you speak into your

834
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:10,799
microphones, and some of you are a lot
harder to understand than others. I want

835
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:15,920
to thank the mayor and the city manager
for your two-page appendage to the

836
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:19,680
agenda. A lot of nice information for
people who do not attend council

837
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:24,160
meetings and didn't know all of this
information. I really feel sorry for you

838
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:27,680
people because you take all the abuse
and

839
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:33,599
city manager gets the abuse for raising
our rates for a problem that's been

840
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:39,200
going on for at least 20 years. We own
we own when Steve Steve Duchaine was the

841
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:44,880
city manager it was low 20s was a water
water loss. Now it's over 40. So I'm

842
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:51,440
reading this thing from this contractor
that uh you hired.

843
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:56,400
He's only going to charge $120,000.
I said for $120,000 you should have

844
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:04,720
hired him or some other company 20 years
ago. It's obvious the workload has

845
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:11,839
exceeded the ability of GPS to do to do
what to help us. I read 180 water mane

846
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:17,280
breaks per year. I said that's insane.
No wonder these people are ju just

847
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:22,319
absolutely exhausted. I heard mention uh
I made a a note about the city's

848
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:27,359
proximity to the east ecourse creek may
mask blind leaks in in nearby water

849
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:32,960
manes. I have long thought that you've
got water water mane leaks that never

850
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:36,400
come above the ground and you need some
way of finding out, yeah, they're

851
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:40,880
leaking, but where's that water going?
Is it going east creek? Is it going into

852
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:47,359
the catch basin? It's not bubbling up to
the ground where you can see it. So, you

853
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:53,119
need an acoustic way of finding it.
What was the other thing?

854
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:56,960
uh just say I really I really appreciate
the fact that you're you're you're

855
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:01,920
you're putting in the time, you're
spending the money and I wish this had I

856
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:06,160
wish your your attitude had been done it
20 years ago and through the last 20

857
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:11,200
years and we would never be in this
position today.

858
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:15,760
John Kazoo has asked several times he
wanted to do this and he wanted her to

859
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:19,199
do that. Steady Castle said no money.
There it is. there folks. You got to you

860
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:24,120
got to pay for the infrastructure
running. Thank you.

861
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,120
» Thank you.

862
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:29,759
» Yes, please state your name. Three
minutes.

863
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:33,120
» Trisha Cross. I live at 4143 High
Street. I hope everybody can hear me.

864
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:36,960
I'm kind of speaking not just for
myself, but for some residents. I

865
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:42,400
actually have a bunch of signatures that
I got from some of the neighbors. It is

866
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:46,960
regarding a little bit of everything.
Um, I do appreciate you guys staying

867
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:54,719
here, especially working all day and
then dealing with with us. But I'm

868
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:59,600
asking for a resolution request and as
all of us that join together, discussion

869
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:04,080
with the water bills, the taxes, some
broken sidewalks, some, you know,

870
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:08,799
different things throughout the
community for the water and sewer. We

871
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:14,880
just want some transparency and
basically we'd like to see a little more

872
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:18,480
in plain English of some of the revenue
and expenditures for these

873
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:22,719
infrastructures. And I heard what
everybody said, even down to the

874
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,600
sidewalk with this guy wanting to keep
our work in Lincoln Park. I'm all for

875
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:32,239
that. How come we don't try to keep it
here? We're trying to keep our money. He

876
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:36,319
just mentioned the policing cars. He
wanted to know if it was Mexico. Well,

877
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:42,480
I'm for the Ford, too. I think we need
to do what we need to do. But it's it's

878
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:47,199
time that we have total transparency so
the average person like me and that

879
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:51,839
gentleman that flipped out, you know,
understands. Um this is unacceptable

880
01:09:49,759 --> 01:09:57,600
that we have water leaks that are going
on for this many years. I don't think

881
01:09:54,480 --> 01:10:01,440
that until we give Lincoln Park
employees that are working on the water

882
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:06,480
now. I don't think we should hand the
job off sorry to another company. You

883
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:11,600
guys are offering to give us new water
meters with detection. How come we don't

884
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:16,480
try that first? How come we don't employ
more people that live within the city? I

885
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:21,280
know tons of people um as a clinic
manager of three clinics that need jobs

886
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:26,960
and that can do the work. I don't know
why we're going way out to BFE to find

887
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:34,000
jobs. I I mean, I don't understand that
part. Um, but here is a graph just of my

888
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:38,080
own. And I live by myself of my water.
This is kind of easier to see. I pretty

889
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:43,120
much do the same thing except
summertime. And even mine is crazy. I

890
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:49,360
know that these are estimated bills, but
that guy has a huge point with why time

891
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:53,760
after time after time. We have so much
technology with computers and

892
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:58,320
everything. How come they didn't flag
that his was consistently an estimate

893
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:05,040
and now he's either going to end up with
a negative bill or a giant one when it's

894
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:10,000
not right. I mean um I mean we can go
all the way down to the property tax and

895
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:14,960
sir charges I did do on what you said
ma'am about how we are not the highest.

896
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:19,520
We may not be the highest, but in a
comparative cuz I took the time to go to

897
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:23,600
each city to ask them, we are higher
than Taylor, Southgate, and we wot and

898
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:30,159
that's important to me and it's an
observation that we made. We're paying

899
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:35,120
about 35 to $75 a month more for our
water. I don't I know my time's up and

900
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:40,080
I'm sorry, but I do want to give you
guys these documents so I can show

901
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:43,520
proof. I'm about facts. I don't go on
social media and bash anybody because I

902
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:49,840
think it's inappropriate and you don't
get results. But I am about the

903
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:55,280
community and um I even went into some
effective rates for our taxes for our

904
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:59,199
homes. Our homes are way higher taxed.
>> Sorry. You're Yeah. Point of order.

905
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:04,159
You're past your time.
>> Okay.

906
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:06,880
» But let you don't let anybody else.
>> Okay.

907
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,040
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

908
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:23,840
Mayor, city council, I am William
Coleman. I own 507, 509, and 513

909
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:27,940
Southfield. And as you're all looking
around trying to figure out what that

910
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:32,800
is, across from KFC, across from DPW,
[snorts] I've been there 14, 13, 14

911
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:37,440
years. I bought the building from an old
man, 70 years old, who retired. I run

912
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:42,000
Bill's vending service out of there. I
don't advertise. I keep it quiet. I

913
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:48,080
don't want people to know what I do
there. We have about 180 locations all

914
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:52,880
over you over all over Michigan. We have
11 in Lincoln Park alone. We do the claw

915
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:59,360
machines, we do bowling alleys, we do
the bars, we do jew boxes, we do ATMs.

916
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,520
And business operation works is we pull
in, we load up everything for the whole

917
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:08,800
day. We leave, we go to our routes, and
we come back, and then we unload. We

918
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:13,520
worked till 3:00 a.m. Now, my warehouse
was built way before any of us were ever

919
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:17,040
here. It was an old factory, and it used
to have sixoot steel beams sticking out

920
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:22,000
the back of it and the front of it for a
trolley system that went down the whole

921
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:25,920
strip. Well, the city came along in the
' 60s and ' 70s and said, "It's no

922
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:30,320
longer a factory. You need to cut those
beams out." So, the old owner did and he

923
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:34,000
removed the beams. And I have a front
garage door that faces towards

924
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:39,360
Southfield. I have a garage door facing
on Elliot. And I have a big garage door

925
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:46,480
on the back with a door. My problem is
is my building was built 10 foot shorter

926
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:51,440
than the alley. So the alley is 25 ft. I
have 10 ft than my building starts. I

927
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:55,280
just want peace. Okay. I've been parking
in the alley for my business, for my

928
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:58,960
safety. I pull up to the back door. We
load and unload all night. It's a

929
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:03,520
loading zone. Basically, that's what we
do. We're never not parking there

930
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:08,159
overnight. But lately, I've been getting
parking tickets for blocking the alley.

931
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,760
And I'm like, but I own 10 feet of the
alley. And I went to the city. I went

932
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:15,199
downstairs and they said, "Well, you got
to get a survey and then we'll see about

933
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:20,560
a loading zone if it meets the
requirements." But I'm like, I just want

934
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:25,760
peace for what we do. We want to keep it
quiet. We don't want to be noticed, you

935
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,719
know? We we don't we don't want that. We
just want to load and unload, do our

936
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,800
business. Now, if the police pulled up
and wanted to give us a ticket for

937
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,800
parking alley, all they had to do is
knock on the door. Hey, what's going on?

938
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:38,159
We're loading and unloading. That's
that's what the big garage doors are

939
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:42,239
for. Now, the main reason why I'm here
is the city came to me a long time ago

940
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:45,199
when I first moved in and said, you
know, your big garage door facing

941
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:50,320
Southfield, we don't want you using
that. And I said, okay, I'll use the

942
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:55,520
other ones. So, I complied with what the
city wanted. I said, okay, I won't use

943
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:59,679
my 14 ft x 12t garage door on the front
anymore. I'll move to the side. hid into

944
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:03,679
the back. Well, now you're coming along
and saying, "Well, now your back door."

945
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:07,920
And I'm like, "This isn't very fair to
me as a business owner and for my safety

946
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:11,199
that you want me to park across the
street and walk back and forth,

947
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:15,520
especially considering that area is not
the best." That the alley, explain the

948
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:21,440
alley.
It's from A to B Street. There is no

949
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:24,960
garage doors for for for residential.
There's only two garage doors on the

950
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:28,320
thing. And it's only two businesses
there. And there's a crater in the

951
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:30,000
middle of the alley. So if you travel
down there, you're going to lose your

952
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:31,600
car.
>> Your time is up.

953
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:36,000
» I understand.
>> The alley very well. Um

954
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,679
» you're going to have to talk to the
building department.

955
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,480
» I have [clears throat]
>> again um

956
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,480
» that's all I can tell you right now.
>> Okay.

957
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,840
» I understand and I'm very familiar with
that alley.

958
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,000
» So
>> but 14 years of no problems at all and

959
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:56,080
all of a sudden now there's problems and
>> Right. I understand. So um let's let's

960
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:59,679
all we'll look into it too. Okay. Okay.
>> I mean, if I do own the 10 ft, I mean,

961
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,880
that's great. I mean, I can park there,
I guess. I mean, I'm pretty sure if you

962
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:07,280
own it, you can park there, but
>> something on record, too.

963
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,440
» Yeah, we'll look for that, too. Look for
property line.

964
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,320
» Okay. I don't mind paying for a survey
to that and everything. I just want to

965
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,320
get I just want peace. I want to be left
alone.

966
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,840
» All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

967
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:21,840
» Thank you for your time.
>> We have the assessment records

968
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:26,520
assessing, too. Thank you. Does anybody
else want to address this body?

969
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:33,520
With that, we'll go to comments of
council.

970
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,719
Mr. Salce.
>> Thank you, honor. Just one quick thing,

971
01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:42,080
Alfred Vanishing Company. I wish you
well in your endeavors. I appreciate

972
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:45,760
city manager and Jazoo getting together.
>> My only issue may have been we didn't

973
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:50,400
know what the other companies had to
offer. Maybe that's why perhaps I voted

974
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:55,440
no on this, but now I wish you well. I
hope you help our guys and I hope you uh

975
01:16:53,520 --> 01:17:02,400
find some leaks and save the city some
money. That's all everyone. Thank you.

976
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:06,560
» Um Tracy as always. Thank you so much
for our first responders, DPS, city

977
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:11,199
employees for keeping us moving and
safe. Prayers go out every night and

978
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:17,679
morning when I get the the water main
breaks notices um to keep our team safe

979
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:23,520
and as warm as they can possibly be. Uh
it's a tough job and uh

980
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:28,159
some people complain about it, but I
thank you very much every day. Um with

981
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:33,280
the cold weather, please prepare when
you go out. There's a lot of ice. Slow

982
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:36,840
down a little bit. Stay safe and good
night and God bless.

983
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:48,000
» Hi. Um the library commission meeting
was last week. They have set the dates

984
01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:54,320
for the spring uh book sale. Uh it will
start Saturday, April 25th and go until

985
01:17:50,800 --> 01:18:00,880
May 2nd by the Friends of the Library.
Um Nicole, their librarian, reported

986
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:05,679
that total circulation in 2025 was the
highest that has been in 10 years. So,

987
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:11,440
we thought that was a great development
and shows uh what available resource our

988
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:16,000
library is. And in regards to the book
sale, they wanted me to mention that if

989
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:20,640
anyone is doing any spring cleaning,
because yes, spring will eventually get

990
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:24,960
here. And if they have any troves of
books that may be collecting some dust

991
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:29,840
in the attic or the basement, they would
be happy to take them for a donation.

992
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:34,640
You just have to stop out of library and
they got a big old bin right right

993
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:42,719
inside the front door and they'd be
happy to take those. And uh I just echo

994
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:47,679
Tracy's sentiment. U Justin sent us all
an email about just how overwhelmed

995
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:52,960
they've been to start the year and it
all of our jobs just hit hit the floor.

996
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:58,239
So we we certainly appreciate all the
hard work that DPS is having to having

997
01:18:55,679 --> 01:19:01,760
to put in right now.
>> Thank you. Have a have a good night.

998
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:07,280
» Thank you.
Uh, first of all, I'd like to offer my

999
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:12,800
condolences to the Kaminsky family. Um,
if it wasn't for, uh, Pam Kaminsky, uh,

1000
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:17,440
my kids probably wouldn't have graduated
the high school. [laughter]

1001
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Um, she was always
very, very good to my family and so is

1002
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:33,760
Charlie. Um I the event that's coming up
for the police department Tuesday,

1003
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:41,199
February 24th at 4 to 7, uh MC Police
Night, uh from the Chapala Family

1004
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:48,520
Restaurant. Uh it'll be at 1469 Ford
Street. So 1469 Ford Street, February

1005
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,520
24th.

1006
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:58,159
Okay.
>> Um and then uh my last thing is is uh I

1007
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:06,719
meant no disrespect to Mr. Bennis
company. The um I I ask questions

1008
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:13,040
because residents want to know and I'm
trying to give them the services that

1009
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:19,280
they they'd like. Um you know, and I
know I know we have a big problem and I

1010
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:23,760
don't blame the DPS. I know they're out
there working because they were down

1011
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:30,560
through houses from my house. So, I I've
I've watched them work. I know they work

1012
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:36,640
all day. Uh, I just I want to say I
appreciate everybody,

1013
01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:44,960
but it it's it's a tough job and I took
on this job committed to being um a part

1014
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:50,320
of a a collaborative group and I thought
we were all in the same direction at one

1015
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:55,960
time, but I just feel like we're losing
our direction sometimes.

1016
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:55,960
Thank you,

1017
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:05,040
Um, as spoken earlier, if you have any
problem with your taxes, please contact

1018
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:09,040
the number on this uh, you can't see it
because my name's blocking here. Let me

1019
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:13,120
let me do that. Let's see. Bring it on
closer, Don.

1020
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,920
Contact the office here if you're having
problems with your taxes. We don't want

1021
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:20,719
anybody get losing their property
because of their inability to pay. Get a

1022
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:24,719
hold of this number. See if they can't
set you up with a payment plan. We don't

1023
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:29,600
want to see anybody disposing the houses
in 2026. we can not keep it going. So,

1024
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:33,120
contact the number. They were kind
enough to bring us a pamphlet. So, it's

1025
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:37,360
really appreciated. Uh museum is back
open. They had their little cleaning

1026
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:42,560
spree. Uh Wednesday, Saturday, 1 to 6:00
p.m. Uh the dinner at Applebee's, I

1027
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:46,000
don't know how successful it was. It
seemed to be pretty successful. It was

1028
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:52,960
packed the whole time I was there. So,
that was pretty awesome. Um make sure

1029
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:57,199
as Lisa said, we're we're starting the
water main. we're getting really into it

1030
01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:01,679
are the water meters. Ple, please have
the area around your water meter clean.

1031
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:06,320
Cuz if they have to walk into your house
and clean 30 foot of garbage in front of

1032
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:11,920
your water meter, it's going to take a
while. So, please make sure where your

1033
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:14,639
water meter is in the house,
nice area around it cuz they're going to

1034
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,920
need to get in there. They're going to
need to move tools. They're going to

1035
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:21,040
have possible water spillage. So, make
sure there's nothing valuable in that

1036
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:26,880
area.
Um, and

1037
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:31,280
I can't stress this enough. Facebook is
not an official way to get a hold of

1038
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:36,639
your representatives in this city.
It's also not an official way to report

1039
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:41,600
watering breaks.
I The phone number is

1040
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:46,320
» 313
381800.

1041
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:51,679
That is a non-emergency police line.
That is what you call if you are

1042
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:56,400
experiencing water pressure issues or
after hours because that was when it

1043
01:22:54,400 --> 01:23:00,920
seems to happen is in the morning and
late at night. So 3133811800

1044
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:08,480
is the number to call after hours so we
can get that problem taken care of

1045
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,800
please. I'm seeing posts and people are
posting you know I've had low water

1046
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:16,320
pressure for 2 hours now. That's two
hours of water that we're losing into

1047
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:21,920
the ground because nobody's reporting
it. So, please help us help the problem.

1048
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:25,520
Other than that,
we're all going through stresses. Let's

1049
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:29,679
just let's be kind to one another. As I
always say, it's about community. The

1050
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:33,520
garden walk or the chocolate walk was
great. We're planning the garden walk

1051
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:37,280
and hopefully July or August. I'm
thinking ahead here so we can have warm

1052
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:42,320
thoughts,
you know. Go out, enjoy it. Oh, I forgot

1053
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,520
my happy Valentine's Day.
>> Oh,

1054
01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:48,500
» happy Valentine's Day. We We'll relay
that too since it's there. Um, everybody

1055
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:52,000
have a great night. You guys
[clears throat] stay safe as always.

1056
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:55,840
Justin, John, you know, I know you guys
are out there killing yourselves. So,

1057
01:23:53,280 --> 01:24:03,600
thank you guys.
>> Okay, so um I just want to say everybody

1058
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:09,520
stay safe. Um, please report. Please, if
you have a problem, let us know so we

1059
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:15,280
can help. Um
and yeah um and if you have are seeing

1060
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:20,880
things on Facebook and it relates to a
matter please relate them to contact us

1061
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:25,840
and not expect to get an answer on
Facebook. I will not reply to comments

1062
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:29,920
on Facebook now or ever. Um I do enjoy
putting the wedding pictures up because

1063
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:32,880
the bride and grooms like to see that
and they like the comments from

1064
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:37,760
everybody. That's about the extent of
what I will do. Um, congratulation on

1065
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:42,800
our gift winners tonight for coming out
and then braving the cold. And um,

1066
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:47,760
everybody have a beautiful Valentine's
Day. Um, warm weather is coming. It's

1067
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:53,440
supposed to stay dark till or stay light
till 6:00 tomorrow.

1068
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:59,920
» 6:00, guys. This is a this is big. So,
um, and I just want to say to Eric's

1069
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:04,880
comment, um, we here are all together.
We came here together to do a job for

1070
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:09,600
this community. We are not always
supposed to agree. That would not be

1071
01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:13,840
right. We all are here for the
community. We if we all agreed, it

1072
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:18,400
wouldn't be much point. You know, we
have opinions. Um we're here to move

1073
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:23,440
this city forward the best way we can
with the best conscience we can give.

1074
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:27,840
So, um I think we do a good job
together. We work well together. And um

1075
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:32,000
with that, I will say good night, be
safe, stay warm, and enjoy the nice

1076
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:35,840
weather that's supposed to be coming.
And God bless. Thank you everybody. Cler

1077
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:39,280
call the role.
>> Resolve that the meeting be adjourned at

1078
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:40,480
8:25 p.m.
>> Move.

1079
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,800
» Support.
>> Support.

1080
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:43,840
» Council person Salceto.
>> Yes.

1081
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,880
» Nichols.
>> Yes.

1082
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,000
» Bayer.
>> Yes.

1083
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,040
» Dupra.
>> Yes.

1084
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:48,480
» Zor.
>> Yes.

1085
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,480
» And Mayor Tobin.
>> Yes.