1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,560 I would la now like to call the January 2 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:08,080 13, 2026 Longmont City Council regular 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,400 session to order. The live stream of 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,559 this meeting can be viewed at the city's 5 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:16,880 YouTube channel or longpublicdia.org 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 um front back slwatch back um backslash 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,800 or comcast channels 8 and 880. Uh can we 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,680 have a roll call, please? 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,509 >> Absolutely. Mayor Doggoering 10 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:29,519 » Absolutely. Mayor Doggoering 11 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:30,070 >> here. 12 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:30,080 » here. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,429 >> Mayor Prom McCoy 14 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:31,439 » Mayor Prom McCoy 15 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:31,830 >> present. 16 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:31,840 » present. 17 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,350 >> Council member Christ 18 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:33,360 » Council member Christ 19 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:33,750 >> present. 20 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:33,760 » present. 21 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,870 >> Council member Marcen 22 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:34,880 » Council member Marcen 23 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,270 >> here. 24 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:35,280 » here. 25 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,709 >> Council member Prito 26 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:36,719 » Council member Prito 27 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:37,270 >> present. 28 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:37,280 » present. 29 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,310 >> Council member Popkin 30 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:38,320 » Council member Popkin 31 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:38,709 >> here. 32 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:38,719 » here. 33 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:39,830 >> Mayor Yavor. 34 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:39,840 » Mayor Yavor. 35 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,190 >> Okay, let's stand for the pledge. 36 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,239 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the 37 00:00:48,239 --> 00:00:51,039 United States of America and to the 38 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:54,399 republic for which it stands. One nation 39 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:57,920 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 40 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:06,070 justice for all. 41 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,479 » In accordance with council's rules of 42 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:10,640 procedure, the rules for providing 43 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,880 public comment are as follows. Only 44 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Longmont residents and employees of the 45 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,880 city of Longmont may speak during first 46 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,200 call public invited to be heard. You 47 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,280 must provide your um address on the 48 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,280 signup sheet before the meeting or I 49 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 will not call your name. Each speaker is 50 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 limited to three minutes. 51 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Anyone may speak on second reading or 52 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,479 public hearing um public hearing of an 53 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:36,799 item. Uh you are asked to add your name 54 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:38,799 to the speaker list for the specific 55 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,200 item before the meeting. Anyone may 56 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,200 speak during final call public invited 57 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 to be heard. Members of the audience 58 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,479 shall refrain from vulgar, disruptive, 59 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:50,720 or abusive language, applause, heckling, 60 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,119 or other actions that interfere with the 61 00:01:53,119 --> 00:01:56,000 orderly function of council. May I have 62 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,159 a um so we are now at the approval of 63 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:00,960 the December 16th, 2025 minutes. Uh may 64 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,520 I have a motion to approve the minutes? 65 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,149 >> Okay, so the um motion has been made by 66 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:06,159 » Okay, so the um motion has been made by 67 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,119 Mayor Prom McCoy. And do I have a 68 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:09,599 second? 69 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:10,229 >> Second. 70 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:10,239 » Second. 71 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:12,390 >> Um and council member Prietto has 72 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:12,400 » Um and council member Prietto has 73 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 seconded that. Is there discussion? 74 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Okay, there you are. Council member 75 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,599 Christ. 76 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:26,560 Um, hold on. There you go. 77 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,800 so I noticed we had a discussion early 78 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 on um in terms of our um appointments to 79 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,920 boards about the airport advisory board 80 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,239 and after that uh we had other 81 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:39,840 appointments that we made where we were 82 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,200 not able to fill the boards and it says 83 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,280 that council did not fill this seat and 84 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,200 I I just want to be clear that there was 85 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,959 no controversy in any of the other 86 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:53,280 boards and so I'm suggesting that maybe 87 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,400 we add having the words having no other 88 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,080 um applications that seat was not filled 89 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,239 for what whichever board it is 90 00:03:06,239 --> 00:03:07,990 >> specifically what page are you looking 91 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:08,000 » specifically what page are you looking 92 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,800 on 93 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,550 >> I just want to see the language 94 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:10,560 » I just want to see the language 95 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,790 >> and I'm trying to find it now because um 96 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:14,800 » and I'm trying to find it now because um 97 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,040 let's see 98 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,200 let me make sure I'm in the right one 99 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,790 here 100 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,159 that happened later in the 101 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:35,990 So hang on. 102 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 » Start on. 103 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,830 >> Thank you. 104 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,440 » Okay. I'm only on 10. So 105 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,390 >> Okay. If you refer to 16 and 17. 106 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:48,400 » Okay. If you refer to 16 and 17. 107 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,599 Thank you, councelor Mercy. 108 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:52,550 >> Yes. 109 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:52,560 » Yes. 110 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,990 >> Okay. 111 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 So on page 16 [sighs] 112 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,159 um 113 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:04,159 there was a discussion about the airport 114 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,799 advisory board and um reopening 115 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:12,789 applications and then um 116 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:16,479 later on for instance on 17 it uh the it 117 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:18,560 is annotated that one vacancy was not 118 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,359 filled without explanation. 119 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:25,520 And um whereas uh when it comes to the 120 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,280 golf course advisory board, it says no 121 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,720 applications were received for this 122 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,400 board. Thus, two vacancies were not 123 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,960 filled. So I just want to be consistent 124 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,880 and say uh where 125 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,160 um for instance housing and human ser 126 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,160 human services 127 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,400 uh 128 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,440 we appointed one individual and then 129 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,160 three vacancies were not filled. And so 130 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,400 I would like to add a verbiage that says 131 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,040 having no other applicants, three 132 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,550 vacancies were not filled 133 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,240 because then you go to master board of 134 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,919 appeals and it says no applications were 135 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:06,000 received. Thus, three vacancies were not 136 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,160 filled. Um 137 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,759 so um so Don 138 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:16,880 is that something we can just amend? Do 139 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,520 you want um do you need a 140 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,950 >> We can make that addition. That's 141 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:20,960 » We can make that addition. That's 142 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,029 >> We can make it that addition. Okay. 143 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:23,039 » We can make it that addition. Okay. 144 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:24,870 >> Or that correction amendment. Okay. And 145 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:24,880 » Or that correction amendment. Okay. And 146 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,560 before we route them to you for final 147 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,360 signature. 148 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,189 >> Okay. Does anyone is anyone in 149 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:29,199 » Okay. Does anyone is anyone in 150 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:32,000 opposition of making the adjustment to 151 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,080 for um consistency in language. 152 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Okay. So, 153 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,680 okay. Let me go back to the main page. 154 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,960 So, we have an open motion. So to 155 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,199 approve the December 16th, 2025 minutes 156 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:53,440 with the um clarification in board 157 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,759 appointments. 158 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:57,280 Um 159 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,759 so Mayor Prom, do you 160 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:00,710 >> I'm fine with that. 161 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:00,720 » I'm fine with that. 162 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,590 >> Okay. Okay. So let's go ahead and vote 163 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:03,600 » Okay. Okay. So let's go ahead and vote 164 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,520 on the motion with the changes. 165 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,909 >> We do. We have the options. options. 166 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:15,120 » We're not supposed to have all those 167 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,430 options. [laughter] 168 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,400 » Okay. So, um the minutes have been 169 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,479 approved. They carry um unanimously. 170 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:29,749 >> Okay. I see Alex's name on there, but 171 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:29,759 » Okay. I see Alex's name on there, but 172 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:31,600 not yet. 173 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,629 Okay. 174 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:36,880 So now we are on to agenda re um 175 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,960 revisions, submissions of documents and 176 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,280 motions to direct city manager to add 177 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:45,680 future agenda items. Um do we have any 178 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,000 are there any agenda revisions or 179 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,039 motions to 180 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:54,160 um for future agenda items? Council 181 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,080 member 182 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,039 Marcen. 183 00:06:57,039 --> 00:06:58,870 >> Thank you, Mayor. I move that we direct 184 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:58,880 » Thank you, Mayor. I move that we direct 185 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,720 the city manager to place on the agenda 186 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,520 for the February 3rd study session an 187 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,960 item to review and discuss rule 27 188 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,599 sections F through M of the city council 189 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:12,960 rules of procedure related to board and 190 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,120 commission appointments prior to the 191 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,639 next board and commission recruitment 192 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:17,280 cycle. 193 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,909 >> Seconded. 194 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:19,919 » Seconded. 195 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:23,189 >> Okay. So um the motion has been made by 196 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:23,199 » Okay. So um the motion has been made by 197 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,280 council member Marcen, seconded by 198 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,479 council member McCoy. Um, so we Oops, I 199 00:07:28,479 --> 00:07:31,840 accidentally turned you off. It um, so I 200 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,960 was going to ask if we had any 201 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,039 discussion. Council member Popkin. 202 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:36,309 >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor, and thank you, 203 00:07:36,309 --> 00:07:36,319 » Yeah, thank you, Mayor, and thank you, 204 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:38,960 uh, Council Member Marcos. Just for, uh, 205 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,479 those of us who don't have the rules and 206 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:42,240 procedures up in front of us and for the 207 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,280 members of the public here, could you 208 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,720 just elaborate on what those specific 209 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,800 rules refer to? Yeah, essentially rule 210 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 27 was a rule added, my understanding 211 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,080 mayor would have the history better 212 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,639 around 2019 2020 that reestablished a 213 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:54,319 new process for how board and 214 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:56,080 commissions were to be appointed, for 215 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,599 how members were to be appointed. It 216 00:07:57,599 --> 00:07:59,919 essentially empowered boards to have a 217 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:02,000 significant say in in that overall 218 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,840 process. Sections F through M 219 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 specifically speaks to how that is to 220 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,520 happen. Boards will interview 221 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,360 candidates, recommend candidates, etc., 222 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 etc. I'm not necessarily tonight 223 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,680 commenting on the substance of of you 224 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,360 know what the conversation is. I'm 225 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,800 saying we need to have that conversation 226 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,120 about whether that specific section of 227 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,800 our rules of procedure and how the board 228 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,039 appointment process currently works is 229 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:25,039 still working for us as a council. And 230 00:08:25,039 --> 00:08:27,520 that's and and to do that before we open 231 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,039 up the process again. 232 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:30,629 >> Uh thank you council member Russ. And 233 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:30,639 » Uh thank you council member Russ. And 234 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:32,719 then the other question I had uh I think 235 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:34,560 maybe this is for the mayor. Um, do we 236 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,640 have any study session yet planned where 237 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,360 we're talking about kind of uh council's 238 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,279 expectation like process and 239 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:44,480 expectations for what we desire from uh 240 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,920 proactively from our boards and 241 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,279 commissions yet? I know that topic came 242 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:48,640 up a little bit the end of last year and 243 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,000 so I'm just curious if that's scheduled 244 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,279 yet. So I had during the last discussion 245 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,200 asked to be put on a future agenda a 246 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,360 discussion on our liaison 247 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,829 >> but I'm almost wondering and we'll we'll 248 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:59,839 » but I'm almost wondering and we'll we'll 249 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:02,160 once we discuss around retreat that 250 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,080 might be a better conversation for the 251 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,880 retreat since it's not 252 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,110 >> actually it might not be changing langu 253 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:09,120 » actually it might not be changing langu 254 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,240 it's not going to be changing language 255 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 on our rules of procedure it's just how 256 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,160 we conduct ourselves and we're all on 257 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,680 the same page for liaison you know our 258 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:22,880 conduct as liaison Um, so I I feel like 259 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,279 those are two separate conversations 260 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:26,880 even though they're related to advisory 261 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,200 boards. 262 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,230 >> Oh, that's fine. I was just curious if 263 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:28,240 » Oh, that's fine. I was just curious if 264 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,720 that was 265 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,150 >> so that Yeah, I don't I don't want to 266 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:30,160 » so that Yeah, I don't I don't want to 267 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,360 interweave those two together. Um, so 268 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,640 yeah. So I hope that answers that. 269 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,590 >> It does. Thank you. 270 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:35,600 » It does. Thank you. 271 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,790 >> Very good. Okay. Do we have any other 272 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:38,800 » Very good. Okay. Do we have any other 273 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Okay. 274 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,470 >> Okay. So if we don't have any other 275 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:42,480 » Okay. So if we don't have any other 276 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,399 discussion on the matter, let's go ahead 277 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:53,590 and vote. 278 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,680 Okay. And the um motion carries 279 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:58,880 unanimously to add to a February 3rd 280 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,880 study session item um to discuss rule 27 281 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,160 of our council rules and procedures. 282 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,839 Okay. So now we are on to Oh, unless we 283 00:10:09,839 --> 00:10:12,720 have Oh, yeah. You too. There you go. 284 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Thank you. Um Council Member Christ. 285 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Thank you, mayor. I move that we also 286 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,959 bring back on February 3rd study session 287 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:26,480 a discussion about our city flag and 288 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 installing a new flag pole at the civic 289 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,630 center. 290 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,839 » Seconded. 291 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:36,550 >> Thank you. Okay. So, the motion to um 292 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:36,560 » Thank you. Okay. So, the motion to um 293 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,959 discuss our city flag and 294 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:41,590 >> was the other and a flag pole um in 295 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:41,600 » was the other and a flag pole um in 296 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,680 front of our civic center was made by 297 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:45,040 council member Chris, seconded by 298 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,959 council member McCoy. Do we have any 299 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:49,760 discussion on the matter? Um council 300 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,279 member Marcy. 301 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:52,550 >> Thank you, mayor. Just a quick question. 302 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:52,560 » Thank you, mayor. Just a quick question. 303 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:53,920 And council member Christ, is your hope 304 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,399 with the motion and the discussion to 305 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:59,519 discuss the appearance of the flag, the 306 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:01,920 contents of the flag, or just hanging 307 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,560 the current city flag in its own space 308 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:06,880 in front of the the in front of on a new 309 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,320 flag pole? Like what is the intent? Is 310 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,240 it a broader conversation about the flag 311 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,160 or just about placement? Because we've 312 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,839 had members of the public come forward 313 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:15,120 and comment about the flag. So, I'm 314 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,640 looking to just wonder what the scope 315 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,160 you're looking for here is. 316 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,470 >> Well, thank you, Council Marzy. 317 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:22,480 » Well, thank you, Council Marzy. 318 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,279 Uh first of all, I think we should fly 319 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:26,959 the flag that we have, you know, with 320 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:30,640 pride and uh we have it second to the uh 321 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,200 Colorado flag at the at this time. Would 322 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,760 be nice to have its own flag pole, but 323 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,079 secondarily, this is also our America 324 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:41,680 250, Colorado 150 celebration year. And 325 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,560 I realize that our flag is about 52 326 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,360 years old. And maybe this is a good time 327 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,760 to reconsider and come up with a 328 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,399 commemorate commemorative flag perhaps 329 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:56,880 to to mark our 150th and 250th 330 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,079 anniversary and um other members of the 331 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:01,920 public has have discussed this with our 332 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,000 staff and it seems like there would be 333 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,639 some expense to putting in a new flag 334 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:09,600 pole. uh one of the national initiatives 335 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,120 is to create service uh year of service 336 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,519 for America 250. And so I would just 337 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:17,279 like to have a discussion on February 338 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:20,399 3rd about what do we need to do to have 339 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,160 that happen so that we can take it 340 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,720 forward to the public, find funding for 341 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,560 it if there is um interest in it and um 342 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,800 can make it happen. 343 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,829 >> So clarification on the it. So, I heard 344 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:33,839 » So clarification on the it. So, I heard 345 00:12:33,839 --> 00:12:36,800 you say um it So, are you referring to 346 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,120 the flag pole for public input on the 347 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,000 flag pole or public input on redesigning 348 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,279 the flag? 349 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,350 >> Both would have some expense. So, it' be 350 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:45,360 » Both would have some expense. So, it' be 351 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,519 nice to know how much for each 352 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:48,389 >> for each. Okay. 353 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:48,399 » for each. Okay. 354 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,389 >> And then see if we can get participation 355 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:50,399 » And then see if we can get participation 356 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:53,680 to do one or both. 357 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,310 >> Okay. Um so, we're not making up our 358 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:56,320 » Okay. Um so, we're not making up our 359 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,399 mind tonight. It would just be voting to 360 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,399 to put this on a future study session 361 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:05,040 item. Um, are there any other questions? 362 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:16,150 Okay. So, let's go ahead and vote. 363 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Okay. So, that carries. Um, the motion 364 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,440 carries. Um, five to one with council 365 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,360 member Marcine in descent. 366 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,910 >> Oh, okay. Well, we can bring it forward 367 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:27,920 » Oh, okay. Well, we can bring it forward 368 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,920 to discuss and then you could say I love 369 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,209 the current flag. Don't change it. So, 370 00:13:32,209 --> 00:13:33,279 [laughter] 371 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:36,160 okay. So, um, now we're on to the city 372 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 manager's report. Does the city manager 373 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,959 have a report? 374 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:40,150 >> No report, mayor, council. 375 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:40,160 » No report, mayor, council. 376 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,790 >> Okay. Thank you. We are now on to 377 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:42,800 » Okay. Thank you. We are now on to 378 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,360 special reports and presentations. Um, 379 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,600 so we are now at item A, the 380 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,600 administration of oath of office to city 381 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,240 council member Ward 3 after election by 382 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,920 acclamation. Um, I'm inviting our city 383 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,720 clerk, Don Kintana, to administer oath 384 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,519 of office to council member Kulkoffer. 385 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:11,750 And I hope I said it correct. 386 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:20,389 » Test test. 387 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:26,150 Extend. 388 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 » I'm gonna have you hold the microphone. 389 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,710 >> What if I drop it? 390 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:28,720 » What if I drop it? 391 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,470 >> In your left hand. 392 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:30,480 » In your left hand. 393 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,230 >> Raise your right hand. 394 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:32,240 » Raise your right hand. 395 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,470 >> Repeat after me. I state your name. 396 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:34,480 » Repeat after me. I state your name. 397 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,230 >> I, Alexander Caloffer, 398 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:36,240 » I, Alexander Caloffer, 399 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,310 >> do solemnly swear. do solemnly swear 400 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:38,320 » do solemnly swear. do solemnly swear 401 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,910 >> that I will support the Constitution of 402 00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:39,920 » that I will support the Constitution of 403 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,720 the United States 404 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,069 >> that I will support the Constitution of 405 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:42,079 » that I will support the Constitution of 406 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:42,880 the United States 407 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,069 >> the Constitution of the State of 408 00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:44,079 » the Constitution of the State of 409 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:44,639 Colorado 410 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:45,750 >> the Constitution of the State of 411 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:45,760 » the Constitution of the State of 412 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Colorado 413 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,990 >> the laws of the State of Colorado 414 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:48,000 » the laws of the State of Colorado 415 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,430 >> the laws of the state of Colorado 416 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:49,440 » the laws of the state of Colorado 417 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,030 >> and the charter and ordinances of the 418 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:51,040 » and the charter and ordinances of the 419 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,760 city of Longmont 420 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,189 >> and the charter and ordinance of the 421 00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:53,199 » and the charter and ordinance of the 422 00:14:53,199 --> 00:14:54,240 city of Longmont 423 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,910 >> and that I will faithfully perform the 424 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:55,920 » and that I will faithfully perform the 425 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,399 duties 426 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,389 >> and I will faithfully perform the duties 427 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:58,399 » and I will faithfully perform the duties 428 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:00,550 >> of the office of council member W three 429 00:15:00,550 --> 00:15:00,560 » of the office of council member W three 430 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,509 >> of the office of council member W three 431 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:03,519 » of the office of council member W three 432 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:05,509 >> upon which I'm about to enter 433 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:05,519 » upon which I'm about to enter 434 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:07,110 >> abouton which 435 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:07,120 » abouton which 436 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,110 >> upon which I'm about to enter. 437 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:09,120 » upon which I'm about to enter. 438 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,150 >> To the best of my ability 439 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:10,160 » To the best of my ability 440 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,350 >> to the best of my ability, 441 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:11,360 » to the best of my ability, 442 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,189 >> you are now sworn in. Congratulations. 443 00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:13,199 » you are now sworn in. Congratulations. 444 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:18,965 >> Thank you. [applause] 445 00:15:18,975 --> 00:15:20,000 [applause] 446 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:47,430 >> If you would just 447 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:57,110 Okay, welcome to the fray. [laughter] 448 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,519 Okay. So, we are now at item B, a 449 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:02,320 proclamation designating January 12th 450 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,440 through the 19th, 2026 as honoring Dr. 451 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,440 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Week in 452 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Longmont, Colorado. So, I would like to 453 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,399 invite the members of the MLK planning 454 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,279 committee to accept the um um 455 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:16,959 proclamation. But let me before we 456 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:18,160 begin, I'm going to go ahead and read 457 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,120 the proclamation. So we have here a 458 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,639 proclamation designating January 12th 459 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:27,440 through the 19th, 2026 as honoring Dr. 460 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Martin Luther King Jr. week in Longmont, 461 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,519 Colorado. Whereas January 19th, 2026 462 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:37,519 marks Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. holiday 463 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,320 on which uh we honor Dr. King's 464 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,240 unwavering fight for the absence of 465 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,040 oppression and the presence of 466 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,839 opportunity for all who sacrificed to 467 00:16:47,839 --> 00:16:50,560 sew the seeds for a movement of peace, 468 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,120 equality, and justice. And whereas 469 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,120 across the nation, in the state of 470 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Colorado, and in the city of Longmont, 471 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,680 honoring Dr. King has become a week of 472 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 service within our communities. Events 473 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,079 held throughout Boulder County are made 474 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:05,679 possible by the commitment and 475 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:07,760 dedication of volunteers from diverse 476 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,559 backgrounds. hand. Whereas the combined 477 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,360 efforts of those volunteers are a 478 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:15,919 fulfillment of Dr. King's dream and 479 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:17,600 highlight the importance of the civil 480 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,240 rights movement and the need to act. And 481 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,160 whereas Mr. Robert Trey Morris III 482 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,400 through his commitment to Longmont youth 483 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,559 and families has given many years of 484 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,039 steadfast support to Martin Luther King 485 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,080 Jr. programming and values throughout 486 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,880 the community. Now therefore, I, Susie 487 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,360 Algo Farering, mayor, by virtue of the 488 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,120 authority vested in me and the city 489 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,880 council of the city of Longmont, do 490 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,360 hereby proclaim the week of January 12th 491 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:48,960 through the 19th, 2026 as honoring Dr. 492 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Martin Luther King Jr. week in Longmont 493 00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:53,840 and invite all to attend this exciting 494 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,200 program honoring Dr. King. Thank you. 495 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,039 So, would um the members of the 496 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,440 committee like to 497 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:26,230 come on up and speak? Right. 498 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,120 » There we go. 499 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,572 >> I'll figure it out eventually. 500 00:18:29,572 --> 00:18:29,582 » I'll figure it out eventually. 501 00:18:29,582 --> 00:18:30,710 >> [clears throat] 502 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:30,720 » [clears throat] 503 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,190 >> Uh first I would like to uh take this 504 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:33,200 » Uh first I would like to uh take this 505 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,640 opportunity. I have not spoken before 506 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,559 the council since the last election. I 507 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,080 want to take the opportunity to issue 508 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,720 congratulations to uh those of you who 509 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,919 have won uh new elections to Mayor Susie 510 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:47,120 Dogo Ferry. Uh we certainly uh 511 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,160 appreciate you and your leadership. Um, 512 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,000 one thing that I that I did want to say 513 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,559 specifically about the event, it'll be 514 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:58,559 happening on the um on the 16th of this 515 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:00,400 week, on the 16th of this March, which 516 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,400 is Friday of this week at Silver Creek 517 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 High School at 5:30. Uh, there will be 518 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,520 refreshments to be had. And this year's 519 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,799 program, we decided to focus on uh a 520 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:12,880 letter from a Birmingham jail. If you 521 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,600 have not uh read that, I would highly 522 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,480 recommend you do. Uh it when you start 523 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,840 reading it, it feels like it was written 524 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,440 yesterday. Um to that I would like to uh 525 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 I find that if we have trouble for if we 526 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,080 have trouble finding the words, it's 527 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,960 most wise to look at the words of the 528 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 people who have come before us. Um so as 529 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,520 far as I know there are there are a lot 530 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,480 of people who are nervous around the 531 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,240 amount of uh protests that have popped 532 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,240 up around the United States and things 533 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,799 of that nature. Um, so I I would like to 534 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:48,640 read an excerpt from the letter from 535 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,799 Birmingham jail if you will allow me. 536 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:54,000 Um, you may well ask why direct action? 537 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,640 Why sitins, marches, and so forth? Isn't 538 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,799 negotiation a better path? You were 539 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:01,039 quite right in calling for negotiation. 540 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:02,640 Indeed, this is the very purpose of 541 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,039 direct action. Non-violent direct action 542 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,039 seeks to create such a crisis and foster 543 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,360 such a tension that a community which 544 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,000 has constantly refused to negotiate is 545 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320 forced to confront this issue. It seeks 546 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,679 to so dramatize the issue that it can no 547 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:19,919 longer be ignored. My citing the 548 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:21,600 creation of tension as part of the work 549 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,400 of nonviolent resistor may sound rather 550 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,559 shocking, but I must confess that I am 551 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,640 not afraid of the word tension. I have 552 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,720 earnestly opposed violent tension, but 553 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,080 there is a type of constructive 554 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,400 nonviolent tension which is necessary 555 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,360 for growth. And to that I would say to 556 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,760 those who are nervous about the 557 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,799 non-violent protest you've seen pop up 558 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,960 um in the in honor of Dr. King, we 559 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,120 should embrace that tension. We should 560 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,440 push it because it will push for 561 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,200 conversations with folks who refuse to 562 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,520 have those. Um once again, I uh thank 563 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,240 you very much for uh for the 564 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,640 proclamation. I appreciate it and I hope 565 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,320 to continue to work with you all in the 566 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,600 future. Thank you. 567 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,084 >> Great. Thank you. 568 00:21:08,094 --> 00:21:11,110 » [applause] 569 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,320 » Good evening once again. My 47th year 570 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,720 here in this town. Uh my name is I'm 571 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000 called Minister Glenda Strong Robinson 572 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,360 and uh I'm a 40 going on a 47th year 573 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,440 resident of Longmont. Um some of you may 574 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,120 know, some of you may not. I was in that 575 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,640 march with Dr. King, his very last march 576 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,919 on March 28th, 1968. 577 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:42,640 And actually, I have a picture. I was 578 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,520 looking at it uh with Trey this week. 579 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,360 And in that last march, 580 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,919 there were National Guardsmen, 581 00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:57,600 there were police officers, dogs, 582 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,640 uh fire trucks with water hoses all 583 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,559 around us. 584 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:05,120 We're back there. We're back there 585 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,320 today. And uh will we survive it? You 586 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,679 bet we will. But we can't do it unless 587 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:16,480 we do it together. And so, um, this just 588 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,640 it it just triggers so many things. I 589 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,440 see Arkansas is here. He and I share a 590 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,200 passion for that time that we were 591 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,799 freedom isn't free, folks. Somebody died 592 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:31,600 for all of us, red, yellow, brown, 593 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,159 black, white, to be sitting in the 594 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:36,960 spaces that we're sitting in now. Sorry, 595 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,679 I'm a preacher at my church, Second 596 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:42,240 Baptist in Boulder. I won't preach to 597 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,360 you, but I just want you to know freedom 598 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,280 isn't free. And every one of us here has 599 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,320 a voice that we can contribute. There is 600 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,919 something we can do. First thing we can 601 00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:58,799 do is show up. Anyhow, I better stop. 602 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:02,065 Thank you very much. Thank you. 603 00:23:02,065 --> 00:23:04,310 [applause] 604 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720 » Would you all do was anyone else want to 605 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,120 come forward and speak? Okay. Okay. 606 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,120 Would you all like a picture? 607 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,960 Yes. 608 00:23:12,960 --> 00:25:32,470 >> Take the picture. Come on. 609 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,120 Okay, we are now at first call. Um 610 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,840 public invited to be heard. And um I'm 611 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,520 actually going to start by calling three 612 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,559 names first. So the speaker and then the 613 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,440 two other folks can just be ready to be 614 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,200 ready to go. Mayor, could I chime in? I 615 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,919 apologize. We are having a 616 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:51,750 >> live stream issue. 617 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:51,760 » live stream issue. 618 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,310 >> Okay. Wonder if you're welcome to keep 619 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:54,320 » Okay. Wonder if you're welcome to keep 620 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,960 going but the live stream is not 621 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,480 functioning 100%. 622 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,590 >> Okay. Um do you want 623 00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:59,600 » Okay. Um do you want 624 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,430 >> we will need to pause for a we're 625 00:26:01,430 --> 00:26:01,440 » we will need to pause for a we're 626 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,679 waiting for some tech help. Sergio's on 627 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:04,400 his way. 628 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,909 >> Okay. Okay. So this is um is it's not in 629 00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:07,919 » Okay. Okay. So this is um is it's not in 630 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:11,679 house. It's LPM issue. Is that so there 631 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:13,750 >> I'm not sure where the issue is 100%. 632 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:13,760 » I'm not sure where the issue is 100%. 633 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,830 >> So I'm wondering if we should take a 634 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:15,840 » So I'm wondering if we should take a 635 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760 break. 636 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,190 >> Harold seems to think that might not be 637 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:19,200 » Harold seems to think that might not be 638 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,480 a terrible idea. Okay. 639 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,950 >> Well, I think if we know Sergio's on his 640 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:22,960 » Well, I think if we know Sergio's on his 641 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,600 way. 642 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,070 >> Yeah. 643 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:24,080 » Yeah. 644 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,950 >> If you want to move. 645 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:24,960 » If you want to move. 646 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,789 >> Is he coming? Oh, 647 00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:26,799 » Is he coming? Oh, 648 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:27,909 >> are we good now? 649 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:27,919 » are we good now? 650 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:28,149 >> Okay. 651 00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:28,159 » Okay. 652 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,269 >> We're good. All right. All right. Never 653 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:29,279 » We're good. All right. All right. Never 654 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:29,600 mind. 655 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,549 >> Okay. Well, take your 656 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:30,559 » Okay. Well, take your 657 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:31,590 >> car to the mechanic. 658 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:31,600 » car to the mechanic. 659 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,230 >> Okay. Thanks. [laughter] 660 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:34,240 » Okay. Thanks. [laughter] 661 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880 Um, so the first name on the list is 662 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,919 Pavll Ivanova. 663 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:41,840 And I'm going to go ahead and Tom Smith 664 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,600 and Lance Whitaker. If you two want to 665 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,960 be ready to 666 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480 come on up next and you may turn on your 667 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,400 mic and if you could restate your name 668 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,120 please. 669 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:58,310 >> Yes. Good evening. My name is P Levanov. 670 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,960 » Hi and uh happy new year. Um haven't 671 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,960 seen you for a while. Um council. Today 672 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,799 I would like to read an email by the CEO 673 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,039 of Lock Safety to apparently all police 674 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,799 department chiefs they work with and at 675 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,279 least the VA Stanton Police Department 676 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,799 team. 677 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,400 Um 678 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,120 the email reads, I'm writing to you 679 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,360 directly because I want there to be zero 680 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,279 confusion about what's happening. Flock 681 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,679 has never been hacked ever. Flock is a 682 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,120 building tools to help you fight the 683 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,279 real crime affecting communities across 684 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,440 the country. Many activists don't like 685 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840 that. Let's call this what it is. Flock 686 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600 and the law enforcement agencies we 687 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600 partner with are undercoordinated 688 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840 attack. The attacks aren't new. You've 689 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,679 been dealing with this forever. And 690 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:41,200 we've been dealing with this since our 691 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200 founding from the same activist groups 692 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,880 who want to defund the police, weaken 693 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,880 public safety, and normalize loness 694 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720 lawlessness. Now they're producing 695 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,240 YouTube videos with misleading 696 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,400 headlines. They're also trying to turn a 697 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,559 public records process into a weapon 698 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:58,129 against you and against us. 699 00:27:58,129 --> 00:27:59,750 >> [gasps] 700 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:59,760 » [gasps] 701 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,230 >> I don't think we're a tech and flock. I 702 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:02,240 » I don't think we're a tech and flock. I 703 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,919 also don't think that proposing civil 704 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,159 discussion in a lawful and timely manner 705 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:07,600 in front of police department and 706 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,480 elected council is bad. I think that all 707 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,559 residents of Lment are insanely grateful 708 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,399 to have you and being able to see actual 709 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,440 change. It's it's always good. I also 710 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600 wanted to touch upon the point of 711 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,399 weaponizing public records. I do want to 712 00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:26,880 give some the guys some points here. I 713 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720 agree that people should not be able to 714 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,399 subpoena or request footage and 715 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,320 information from a system with such an 716 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,559 insanely broad and indiscriminate data 717 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,640 of citizens. I think however he wouldn't 718 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,039 agree with my reasons for and similar 719 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,039 requests have existed decades before 720 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,320 flock came to life. In fact, the CEO was 721 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,799 born after was requested. It is a very 722 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,720 important tool that allows citizens to 723 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,799 support the systems of check checks and 724 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,559 balances. It is not a weapon against 725 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:54,320 council members or the police, but it 726 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240 does allow us to spot out the possible 727 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,480 bad apples. And I think in that case, 728 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Flock and similar indiscriminate 729 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640 automatic tracking tools is the bad 730 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120 apple. And after all, if Flock didn't 731 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360 want to be subjected to for risks, it 732 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,799 shouldn't have signed contracts with 733 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,080 public tax funded government. That is 734 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,919 all. Thank you, council. 735 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:33,190 >> Thank you. Okay, Tom Smith. 736 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Good evening. My name is Tom Smith. I 737 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,279 live at 1049 Champion Circle. I rather 738 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,600 than congratulate all of you in election 739 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,600 time, I'd say thank you more so than for 740 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,159 serving and willingness to participate. 741 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,159 I think that's very important. 742 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:54,159 I have uh a letter I've drafted that is 743 00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:56,960 I've addressed to the mayor, city 744 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,320 council, and my purpose is twofold. 745 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Tonight, for the last 3 years or so, 746 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,269 I've been entrenched in learning about 747 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,760 annexation, development, city codes, 748 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,520 building yada yada. And two things that 749 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,960 come from this that um I need to share 750 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,799 is we got a lot of nice help from a lot 751 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,039 of good staff people, 752 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,440 not to mention the Texas Tech Red 753 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,240 Raiders going down tubes. Um 754 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,799 the uh two things that I'd like to share 755 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,919 with you are two requests, but these are 756 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:37,760 mine and these are based on the 757 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,399 education that the city provided me. I'd 758 00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:44,159 say number one is that the document 759 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:47,600 known as Envision Longmont be suspended 760 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,320 immediately and until such time it is 761 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,840 modified, updated, or discarded. 762 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Secondly, I'd ask that my subdivision be 763 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,960 returned to single family zoning. And to 764 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960 summarize and give you some insight to 765 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,679 some of this, I have prepared and I will 766 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:09,279 leave with the city clerk a variety of 767 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:10,799 documents. 768 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,080 This one you might recognize comes from 769 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360 Envision Longmont and Mr. Penland and 770 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,240 one of his staff gave me some insight to 771 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,840 it and I'm sorry but it doesn't have the 772 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,159 kind of support and validity that I 773 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:28,720 think the Longmont people deserve. as 774 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,120 well as there are contradictions in it 775 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,120 in envision Armont that contradict the 776 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 ninth edition of the planners guide that 777 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,399 was edited by one of the same people 778 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,840 from Clarion who had a hand in envision 779 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,159 logbot. I also was able to uh do 780 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:51,200 something fairly straightforward. 781 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,399 I find a lot of language in it ambiguous 782 00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,880 and there are a lot of uh wiggle room 783 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840 things. I ran the spelling, excuse me, 784 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480 the reading test on it. Take a shot at 785 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000 what reading level it is, 786 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080 14th grade. 787 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,399 And couple of teachers here might know 788 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,880 that that's not close to the average 789 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,159 reading level for the American public. 790 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:19,840 And then uh with my subdivision, there 791 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,200 were a number of uh issues that were 792 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,559 done either incorrectly or with bad 793 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,159 information. 794 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,399 And I'll give these documents to the 795 00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:32,320 city clerk. Thank you. 796 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,070 >> Thank you, Tom. Um Lance Whitaker. 797 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640 » And excuse me, my wife is ill and I'm 798 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,760 going to go home and be a husband. 799 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,269 >> Yep. Take care of her. Thank you. Um 800 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:45,279 » Yep. Take care of her. Thank you. Um 801 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,200 Okay. And then following Lance, uh, 802 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760 Matthew Spencer and then Madlin Strong 803 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:57,350 Woodley. 804 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,679 » Hi, Mayor and Council. My name is Lance 805 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:02,240 Whitaker. Um, 806 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,840 sorry, I'm sort of working off 807 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,200 a media I'm not used to. I lost my list. 808 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Uh, Lance Whitaker, 1750 Collier Street, 809 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Longmont, Colorado. I've been a resident 810 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 for about 44 years. Uh, I'd like to 811 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240 mention today is National 812 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,840 Shop for Travel Day, National 813 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,360 KoreanAmerican Day, National Sticker 814 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,919 Day. Uh, we got enough of those all over 815 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:31,440 town. 816 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Uh, National Steven Foster Memorial Day, 817 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,960 National Peach Melba Day. I love Peach 818 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,799 Melba. and also National Rubber Ducky 819 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,519 Day. And if you got a Jeep, you probably 820 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,679 got several of those on your dashboard. 821 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:53,200 So, um it is also, uh 822 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,519 Mickey Mouse's first comic strip came 823 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,960 out today. Um and that's all I have 824 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,279 today. Thank you. Have a nice day. 825 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,870 >> Great. Thank you. U Matthew Spencer, 826 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:04,880 » Great. Thank you. U Matthew Spencer, 827 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:11,190 >> is there a way to display an image? 828 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,639 Don, can they display an image? 829 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,470 >> Um, we request that they're sent ahead 830 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:16,480 » Um, we request that they're sent ahead 831 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,200 of time. Oh, 832 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,790 >> okay. The office said to bring it and 833 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:18,800 » okay. The office said to bring it and 834 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480 put it like in the moment. 835 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,909 >> If you send it to us, I can send it to 836 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:21,919 » If you send it to us, I can send it to 837 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,040 them. 838 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,950 >> We can send it to them. You send it to 839 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:24,960 » We can send it to them. You send it to 840 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,109 >> Okay, great. 841 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:32,800 » No. Oh, there you go. You 842 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,550 >> Good evening, Longland City Council. My 843 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:34,560 » Good evening, Longland City Council. My 844 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,919 name is Matthew Spencer. I'm the 845 00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:37,200 associate pastor at Christ Church 846 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,919 International on Main Street. 847 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:40,310 >> Sorry. 848 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:40,320 » Sorry. 849 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,669 >> Oh, yeah. Thank you. On Main Street, 850 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:43,679 » Oh, yeah. Thank you. On Main Street, 851 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,040 right across the street from the pump 852 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,879 house and the Chamber of Commerce 853 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:48,879 building. I'm also this year as of today 854 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,240 the new chair of the Ambassadors 855 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:51,760 Committee representing the Longmont Area 856 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,079 Chamber of Commerce to new businesses. 857 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,159 So, uh anyone in uh want to join the 858 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,400 chamber, you're welcome to. Um I'm here 859 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,920 today to talk about the official 860 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,800 Longmont City flag. For years, it uh 861 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,640 bothered me that very few few people 862 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,720 even knew that Longmont has an official 863 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,200 city flag. Furthermore, it bothered me 864 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,440 that the civic center itself wasn't even 865 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,160 flying our official flag. A while back, 866 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,760 I reached out to you, the council, and 867 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,680 the city manager by email about this 868 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,520 issue, and I'd like to thank assistant 869 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,440 city manager Sandy for getting the flag 870 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520 flying again last year underneath the 871 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,960 Colorado flag. But I'd also like to 872 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,400 continue this by initiating and 873 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,320 catalyzing two things this year as the 874 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,400 celebrations take place around America 875 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,119 and Colorado to mark our 250th 876 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,320 anniversary as a nation and our 150th 877 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,119 year as a state. Number one, I'd like to 878 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,359 see and I'm super thrilled to hear Diane 879 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:46,160 Christ uh a permanent third flag pole to 880 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,680 be installed right here outside our 881 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,359 civic center to fly our official 882 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:51,839 Longmont flag. I feel that if we don't 883 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:53,920 have a designated flag pole to celebrate 884 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,280 our city, it could very easily 885 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,760 accidentally not be flown again and then 886 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,359 once again disregarded for years to 887 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:01,040 come. And I'm also noticing I don't see 888 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,119 a flag in this room, which would be 889 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,160 great. Um, secondly, so I think we need 890 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,839 to celebrate our heritage and have, you 891 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:09,359 know, we need to fly the flag we have. 892 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:10,640 That's where we need to start. Right 893 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359 there. Right on. 894 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:15,510 >> Thank you. Secondly, I'd also like to I 895 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:15,520 » Thank you. Secondly, I'd also like to I 896 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,800 would like to uh I want to ask the 897 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,880 council to begin the process uh and 898 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,800 swift execution of I would like to see a 899 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,520 new Longmont flag for the future as our 900 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,599 city becomes a major competitive player 901 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,320 in the county and the state. While we 902 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,920 should celebrate the legacy of the old 903 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,400 flag, it is a bit of a headscratcher. 904 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,160 It doesn't um it doesn't really 905 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,880 represent our city very well. A new 906 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,640 better flag will help unite us, help 907 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,240 people have a sense of identity and 908 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,480 inclusivity. The flag should be very 909 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,960 simple, beautiful, uh, easily 910 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,560 identifiable. I think that the Twin 911 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880 Peaks should should definitely be on it. 912 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,880 That will help clearly symbolize our 913 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,480 city and people group. I think, uh, a 914 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,119 Colorado color scheme would be great. 915 00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:58,640 I've brought two images that hopefully 916 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,000 you can all see. I don't know if they're 917 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,720 up yet. Um, so let's celebrate Longmont 918 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,280 with a new flag. Um, 919 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,710 >> there's a story behind it. 920 00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:06,720 » there's a story behind it. 921 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,870 >> Okay, great. So, I had my friend Chat 922 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:08,880 » Okay, great. So, I had my friend Chat 923 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,040 helped render 924 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,800 uh what a third flag pole would look 925 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640 like out here. And Sandy says it cost 926 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,160 $7,000. 927 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,910 >> So, I'd love I'd love to see the city 928 00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:17,920 » So, I'd love I'd love to see the city 929 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,240 get it done. I've already talked to uh 930 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,920 the Rosary or not the Rotary 931 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,349 >> Rotary Club 932 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:25,359 » Rotary Club 933 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:29,270 >> and um and also uh Kowanas Club. So, I'd 934 00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:29,280 » and um and also uh Kowanas Club. So, I'd 935 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,880 like to see that happen somehow. I know 936 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,480 there's a way to get it up there because 937 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,480 I think we need to celebrate, you know, 938 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,680 the big thing is celebrate Longmont. Um, 939 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,839 and I designed a flag I'm wearing here 940 00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,000 on the hat and I I called this the 941 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,760 celebrate Longmont flag and the idea is 942 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,326 to celebrate Longmont. Let's fly a flag. 943 00:37:46,326 --> 00:37:47,359 [laughter] 944 00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:49,030 >> So, thank you all. Thank you so much for 945 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:49,040 » So, thank you all. Thank you so much for 946 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,480 what you what you do. We pray for you 947 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,800 guys. 948 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,270 >> Okay. Thank you, Matthew. Um, Meline 949 00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:55,280 » Okay. Thank you, Matthew. Um, Meline 950 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,150 >> and then following uh Meline, we have 951 00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:58,160 » and then following uh Meline, we have 952 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,310 Strider and then Paul 953 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,079 Stalls. 954 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,190 >> Good evening everyone. It is so good to 955 00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:07,200 » Good evening everyone. It is so good to 956 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,920 see you guys. Happy New Year. Happy 957 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,680 2026. 958 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,320 I uh want to just share with you that in 959 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,280 addition to the Martin Luther King 960 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,320 celebrations that are phenomenal, 961 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,079 uh I'm would love to see everyone there, 962 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,359 uh that's January the 16th and the 18th. 963 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:29,440 And in addition to that, I wanted to 964 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,400 also uh make you aware that uh in the 965 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960 with the dissolution of the NAACP 966 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,880 Boulder County branch, our organization, 967 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040 the Executive Committee for 968 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,119 African-American Cultural Events is uh 969 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,400 EASE is the short version [laughter] 970 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,079 will be uh making sure that nothing goes 971 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,280 lacking in terms of the services that we 972 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,160 delivered in collaboration with the 973 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,240 NAACP. 974 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,480 And uh there will be a formal 975 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640 announcement coming out. You'll get uh 976 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,720 the press release is going out tomorrow 977 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,280 morning and I will make sure that it 978 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,839 gets here so you can spread the word. 979 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:17,040 Nothing will go undone. 980 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440 We're here. That's ECASE Executive 981 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Committee for African-American Cultural 982 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,359 Events. Ecase 983 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:26,720 ecase.org for any other information. And 984 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,880 thank you so much for your usual 985 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,400 support. 986 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,030 >> Thank you. 987 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:31,040 » Thank you. 988 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:51,030 >> Thank you. Okay, Strider. 989 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,760 Yeah. Um, 990 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,760 got my whistle. Strider Benston 9517th. 991 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,119 Um, my daughter lives in Minneapolis 992 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,520 right near where they murdered George 993 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,720 Floyd. So, uh, I haven't been able to 994 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,440 reach her the last couple of days, but 995 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:19,510 uh, [snorts] it's my shirt. Uh, um, uh, 996 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,960 make Renee good trouble. Yeah. Um, 997 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,359 some of y'all know that um 998 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:32,400 my guide, my colleague, my friend Martin 999 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Luther King um he would have been 97 1000 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:46,160 years old in two days. Um I um um 1001 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,320 61 years ago in January I walked to 1002 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,280 Selma in a freezing rain. It took me 1003 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,200 five days. I got to Selma and a bunch of 1004 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,359 kids gathered around me said what's your 1005 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:06,160 name? I said Jim. He said Jim where you 1006 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,040 from? I said Arkansas. Arkansas. your 1007 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,280 name Arkansas. So that's still my name 1008 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440 in the movement. Everyone in the 1009 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,720 movement calls me Arkansas except for 1010 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,200 Stokeley Carmichael. He called me Jim 1011 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,319 because I met him before the movement. 1012 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:27,040 He's the one that recruited me into the 1013 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,079 movement. But I listened to Fanny Lou 1014 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,599 Hamer speak uh um on the boardwalk in 1015 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:38,079 Atlantic City. And um that's uh that's 1016 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,720 uh what brought me in. Um the people of 1017 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,520 Selma scheduled me on an airplane flight 1018 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920 and a hotel room um this March, but the 1019 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,280 Boulder Elite blocked me from going. So 1020 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,680 I'm not supposed to be able to be there 1021 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,599 after 61 years uh in the movement. I 1022 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:03,359 walked in a freezing rain. But um I was 1023 00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:05,839 organizer of rank and foul in the 1024 00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:10,560 teamsters and and uh the mail handlers 1025 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,800 unions. And um um one just one thing I 1026 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,079 organized a demonstration at the tangers 1027 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,119 hall in Chicago in support of the farm 1028 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,960 workers union. Their agents were killing 1029 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,880 farm workers organizers at the time and 1030 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,599 stealing the contracts from the growers 1031 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,280 to to disc. 1032 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200 Dolores 1033 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,400 created the union and Ella Baker 1034 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960 basically created the civil rights 1035 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,079 movement. She organized both SNICK and 1036 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:51,920 SCLC. But history is illegal in this 1037 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,800 country and I'm a historian. [music] So 1038 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,800 that's why I'm not allowed to speak. Um, 1039 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,000 my book, If White Kids Die, might still 1040 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,240 be in the library. It's about one month 1041 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,119 of my life in 1965. 1042 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,750 >> Thank you, Strider. Thank you. Good. 1043 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:09,760 » Thank you, Strider. Thank you. Good. 1044 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,560 Okay. Um, no clapping, so keeping the 1045 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,480 orderly conduct of the meeting, but 1046 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:23,270 thank you. Um, Paul Stalls, 1047 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,680 » good evening. 1048 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,480 Okay, I just like to share some concerns 1049 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,079 over the management of Ute Creek Golf 1050 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:31,599 Course. I'll be the first to say this is 1051 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,160 not exactly a big problem and and seems 1052 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,680 petty compared to some of the other 1053 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,960 topics, but I just want to give you some 1054 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,359 feedback so you know what's going on. Um 1055 00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:40,720 none of the issues are particularly 1056 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,800 earthshattering but I think in the uh 1057 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,599 accumulation uh they represent a decline 1058 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,680 in standards at a time when costs have 1059 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,960 increased dramatically. So I just want 1060 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,560 to bring it to your attention. Firstly 1061 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,240 this summer I noticed many of the ball 1062 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,400 wash stations I told you this was not on 1063 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,319 the same magnitude as the other topics 1064 00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:59,040 had been had been removed. Um I asked 1065 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,280 management why and they said oh I asked 1066 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,640 staff why and they said oh the 1067 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,240 management doesn't like them. So I 1068 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,240 emailed Keith Martin. No reply. I 1069 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,880 followed up was introduced to Dan Ree uh 1070 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,880 on the second attempt golf course 1071 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440 supervisor and received a reply removed 1072 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400 due to cost to maintain and to reduce 1073 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319 some of the clutter around the tea 1074 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:22,640 boxes. So I I I replied back saying 1075 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,000 clutter I don't understand what that is. 1076 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,119 What what are you talking about? And 1077 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,280 I've not since had a reply. These ball 1078 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,839 stations are about 250 bucks each. So a 1079 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:31,200 whole bunch of new ones have been put in 1080 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,760 at Twin Peaks. So but at UK Creek we're 1081 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,359 removing them. Uh secondly, um due to 1082 00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:38,800 concerns about slow pay, you probably 1083 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,240 know if you're a golfer, you're limited 1084 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,280 to a maximum of four players. So um we 1085 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,200 the customers are expressly limited and 1086 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,720 stopped from playing as a group of five 1087 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,480 if you got an extra friend or anything. 1088 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,640 So one, uh but I've noticed frequently 1089 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,560 there are groups of five playing. I I 1090 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,079 didn't give my address, Sundance Drive. 1091 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:58,480 I oversee my I my house backs onto Uke. 1092 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,000 So I asked the staff, I said, you know, 1093 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,359 have you changed your policy? I noticed 1094 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:03,359 some fives playing. Like no, no, no. And 1095 00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:04,640 I said, "What about the group yesterday 1096 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,920 morning?" "Oh, they're employees." 1097 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,280 "That's okay. They're employees." 1098 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520 "Okay." Another time I was playing as a 1099 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,359 single. The group in four I caught up 1100 00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:12,800 with in front of me and they turned 1101 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,680 around and said, "Do you want to play 1102 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,040 with me? Do you want to play with us?" 1103 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,280 Which is very nice. I said, "Well, no, 1104 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,560 I'm okay, but actually I can't. We're 1105 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,119 not supposed to play unless we're four's 1106 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,280 the max." And they said, "Oh, it's okay. 1107 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,680 We work here." was the reply. So, both 1108 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,680 examples show a culture of entitlement 1109 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,760 and hypocrisy and putting the employees 1110 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,480 desires ahead of the customers. Thirdly, 1111 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,720 in the summer, I saw a trench had been 1112 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,960 dug between the fifth and sixth holes, 1113 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,119 and it's filled with several thousand 1114 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,000 range balls. Got a picture of that here, 1115 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000 too. This is just part of the trench. 1116 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,839 You can obviously look at your leisure. 1117 00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:48,400 Um, so it's not covered. They just 1118 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,359 they're just dumped there. Um, you know, 1119 00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:53,520 range balls don't compost as far as far 1120 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,720 as I'm aware. So, I don't know what the 1121 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,119 thinking was or why we're doing that. So 1122 00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,599 in conclusion, uh the decline in 1123 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,280 standards seems to have happened at the 1124 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520 same time as prices have gone from 40 to 1125 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,760 50 for a round at the weekend to this 1126 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,440 weekend, one of the rounds on Saturday 1127 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,400 is $98. So over the last three years, 1128 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,280 prices have have doubled uh going up 10 1129 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,319 15% a year cumulatively. Uh standards 1130 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:19,920 have dropped and uh I'm sharing this 1131 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,280 feedback in the hope that one of three 1132 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,480 things will happen. And at the very 1133 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,359 least, whoever Dan and Keith report to, 1134 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:28,079 let's give them this feedback and uh 1135 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:29,200 hopefully they take the feedback 1136 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,760 seriously. Even better, if there's a 1137 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,440 formal annual review process, this 1138 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,040 decline in standards is considered an 1139 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,280 inaluation and any merit increases. And 1140 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,920 thirdly, 1141 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,990 >> and that that is time. Can you send us 1142 00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:40,000 » and that that is time. Can you send us 1143 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,599 an the email of that? Do you have 1144 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:43,349 >> I have the email as well. Oh, perfect. 1145 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:43,359 » I have the email as well. Oh, perfect. 1146 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:45,359 My final point would just if the 1147 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:47,510 >> I'm sorry, the time is up. So, I have to 1148 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:47,520 » I'm sorry, the time is up. So, I have to 1149 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,880 follow the rules. [laughter] 1150 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,230 >> All right. I think they're over 1151 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:50,240 » All right. I think they're over 1152 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:51,920 incentivized on profitability and 1153 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,200 services are dropping and they should be 1154 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,000 revisited. 1155 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,470 >> Okay. I don't want to disregard that. Um 1156 00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:56,480 » Okay. I don't want to disregard that. Um 1157 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,160 but we are moving to the next person, 1158 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,200 Scott Stewart. 1159 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,710 >> Mayor, members of council, uh Scott 1160 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:02,720 » Mayor, members of council, uh Scott 1161 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,960 Stewart, 229 Grand Street. Um 1162 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,079 during your retreat conversation on 12C, 1163 00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:13,599 um if you could please include uh try to 1164 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,920 include on the agenda, uh conversation 1165 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,079 around the airport. Um 1166 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:23,200 the impact that the airport that has on 1167 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200 uh those of us on the ground is is a 1168 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,640 real one. Um the airport has some basic 1169 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680 rules and regulations that uh don't get 1170 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,800 followed. There's a lack of 1171 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680 communication when violations occur. 1172 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,839 There's a lack of uh any kind of written 1173 00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,880 documentation of violations. Um incident 1174 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:48,309 reports are pretty much non-existent. Um 1175 00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,240 there's 1176 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,720 the airports has has and I think you've 1177 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:57,599 done a a lease review um uh 1178 00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,599 over the last couple of months, but uh 1179 00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,160 the inconsistency in the application of 1180 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,480 the lease policies. Uh it's pretty 1181 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,040 pretty bad, pretty offensive to uh some 1182 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,560 people that are looking for 30-year 1183 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,680 leases that um probably shouldn't have 1184 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000 got them and some people that wish to 1185 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,520 have them, what have you. 1186 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,559 The the idea that increased air traffic 1187 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,640 for the sake of increasing the number of 1188 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,839 operations is not a benefit to Longmont. 1189 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:29,920 We got a lot of flights here that don't 1190 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,760 spend any time in Longmont. They don't 1191 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480 spend any time on the ground. they don't 1192 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,720 refuel here. They're just an increase in 1193 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:40,720 numbers. Um it's 1194 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,440 this airport can be better. 1195 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,839 Um 1196 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:47,760 review needs to be done of the financial 1197 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,359 obligations. There needs to be more 1198 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:51,680 financial transparency. Uh the 1199 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,520 information provided the to the public 1200 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,720 needs to be accurate. Um please take 1201 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,880 time review the airport. It can be 1202 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040 better than what it is. Doesn't need to 1203 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,400 shut down. It's not going to shut down 1204 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,880 for 20 years, even if you wanted it to. 1205 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,920 But this airport needs to be run better 1206 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,480 so that 1207 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,880 everybody in Longmont is is not 1208 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,800 negatively affected by things that don't 1209 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680 positively happen at the airport. Wow, 1210 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,720 that was a word mess. Have a good night. 1211 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,119 Oh, and uh happy rubber ducky day. 1212 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,270 >> Oh, thank you. 1213 00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:25,280 » Oh, thank you. 1214 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:34,950 >> Okay. Uh, Jacob McCllum. 1215 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,480 Hello everybody. My name is Jacob 1216 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,000 McCllum. I'm here today. This is my 1217 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,839 first city council meeting ever and I'm 1218 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:41,920 here just because of a topic that's 1219 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,520 really important to me. I'm here to talk 1220 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,119 about the flock safety cameras that are 1221 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,000 around the city. Um, I think right now 1222 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,079 we're living in a time where government 1223 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,640 trust is at almost an all-time low. You 1224 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,760 know, I don't think it's controversial 1225 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,200 for me to say that. And I know as 1226 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,200 somebody who's 21 years old myself, that 1227 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,880 is absolutely the case among young 1228 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,960 people who are growing up in this city. 1229 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,359 And I think that the cameras everywhere 1230 00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:05,520 are eroding trust with the government 1231 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,839 especially. And I think a local 1232 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,200 government is something that could 1233 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,119 really help improve this issue. You 1234 00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:14,079 know, like ultimately surveillance is a 1235 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,000 form of control over people. If you're 1236 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,280 feeling watched, you're not going to 1237 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,720 behave the same way as you would when 1238 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,319 you don't feel watched, you know. So 1239 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:21,599 regardless of how much we trust the 1240 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:22,800 government, regardless of how much we 1241 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,880 trust the police, ultimately that is a 1242 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,559 problem that will erode trust with those 1243 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,119 people, you know, and it doesn't have to 1244 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,319 be abused. It doesn't have to be 1245 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,480 anything. It is like taking the bedroom 1246 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,040 door off of somebody's room, you know. 1247 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,079 Doesn't matter if anybody's going to 1248 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,000 abuse that. It is still a problem and we 1249 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,400 still need privacy, right? Any one of us 1250 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,559 who drive down 119 to go to work every 1251 00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,800 day, that is being recorded somewhere. 1252 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,319 Our license plate is recorded. Our 1253 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:48,640 location is recorded. Exactly what time 1254 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,200 that is is recorded. If you go to work, 1255 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,040 when you leave is recorded and when you 1256 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520 come back is recorded. And ultimately 1257 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,000 the safety policies around this data is 1258 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,119 not safe. And even if you believe that 1259 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,240 the government should be allowed to have 1260 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,480 that access to that data, ultimately 1261 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,000 that is not the only people who do have 1262 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000 access to that data. And I do not trust 1263 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,680 any private actors with that 1264 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,839 information. That's it. I yield my time. 1265 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:13,119 Thank you guys. 1266 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,829 >> Thank you. Okay. Seeing no one else on 1267 00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:15,839 » Thank you. Okay. Seeing no one else on 1268 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:17,599 the list, I will now close public 1269 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,000 invited to be heard. And we are now on 1270 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,240 to item nine, consent agenda and 1271 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,400 introduction and reading by title of 1272 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,520 first reading and ordinances. Um, city 1273 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,200 clerk, can you please read the consent 1274 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,240 agenda um into the record? 1275 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,910 >> Absolutely, Mayor. The second reading 1276 00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:33,920 » Absolutely, Mayor. The second reading 1277 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,440 and public hearing for the ordinances 1278 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,520 introduced tonight on this consent 1279 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,760 agenda will be held on January 27th, 1280 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,280 2026. 1281 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,480 Item 9A is ordinance 2026-01, 1282 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,760 a bill for an ordinance making 1283 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,359 additional appropriations for expenses 1284 00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,599 and liabilities of the city of Longmont 1285 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,040 for the fiscal year beginning January 1286 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,079 1st, 2026. Item 9B is ordinance 2026-02, 1287 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,760 a bill for an ordinance amending chapter 1288 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,559 14.42 of the Longmont Municipal Code to 1289 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,079 reduce the size of the Art and Public 1290 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,240 Places Commission and modernize the Art 1291 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,119 and Public Places program. Item 9 C is 1292 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,079 resolution R-2026-01, 1293 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:11,599 a resolution of Longmont City Council 1294 00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:12,720 approving the intergovernmental 1295 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:14,400 agreement between the city and the 1296 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,920 Colorado Department of Public Safety, 1297 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,319 Division of Criminal Justice, Office for 1298 00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:21,359 Victims of Crime Act, VO VOCA, grant 1299 00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:23,920 funding for Longmont Victim Services. 9D 1300 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,319 is resolution 2026-2, 1301 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:27,680 a resolution of the Longmont City 1302 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,520 Council concerning the electric vehicle 1303 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920 charging systems permitting process. 1304 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,040 Item 9E is resolution 2026-03, 1305 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,400 a resolution of the Longmont City 1306 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,599 Council approving an amendment to the 1307 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,440 Intergovernmental Agreement between the 1308 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,200 city and the Boulder Regional Emergency 1309 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,200 Telephone Service Authority for public 1310 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000 safety answering point funding. 9F is 1311 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,319 resolution 2026-04, 1312 00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:49,680 a resolution of the Longmont City 1313 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,520 Council approving agreement between the 1314 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,119 city of Longmont and the Longmont Humane 1315 00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,680 Society for Animal Welfare Services for 1316 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,720 2026. and 9G is designate the city's 1317 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,720 website as the official posting location 1318 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,599 for city council agendas and mayor staff 1319 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,880 would like to remove item 9F from the 1320 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,720 consent agenda. 1321 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,470 >> Okay. 1322 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:10,480 » Okay. 1323 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040 Okay. Are there any other items that 1324 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,200 council would like to remove? Council 1325 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,720 member Popkin. 1326 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:17,910 >> Uh thank you, Mayor. I'd like to remove 1327 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:17,920 » Uh thank you, Mayor. I'd like to remove 1328 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,520 item uh 9D. 1329 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,470 >> Okay. 1330 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,359 Okay. Um, so see no one else in the 1331 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:30,319 queue. Um, um, oh, you've turned off 1332 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:32,079 your mic. Is there anyone who would like 1333 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:34,640 to move the consent agenda? Minus D and 1334 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,119 F. 1335 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:35,990 >> I'll move that. 1336 00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:36,000 » I'll move that. 1337 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,109 >> Um, 1338 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:37,119 » Um, 1339 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:37,990 >> second. 1340 00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:38,000 » second. 1341 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,390 >> Okay. So, the, um, consent agenda uh, 1342 00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:40,400 » Okay. So, the, um, consent agenda uh, 1343 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,720 minus um, items D and F um, has been 1344 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,920 moved by Mayor Prom McCoy and seconded 1345 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,640 by Council Member Popkin. Let's go ahead 1346 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:57,109 and vote. 1347 00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:04,950 Okay. And that carries unanimously. 1348 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,599 Okay. There are no ordinances on second 1349 00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,359 reading and public hearings on any 1350 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:12,800 matter. So we are now um back to items 1351 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,440 removed from the consent agenda. 1352 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,359 Um and we are we'll start we'll go ahead 1353 00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:22,230 and start with item D. 1354 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,319 Council member Popkin. 1355 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:29,829 >> Yes. Thank you. Um I mostly just had one 1356 00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:29,839 » Yes. Thank you. Um I mostly just had one 1357 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:31,680 question for staff and then just a 1358 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,839 comment overall. Um this this concerns 1359 00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:38,480 the uh electric vehicle charging systems 1360 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,800 permitting process. Uh I just wanted to 1361 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,040 commend staff actually for being ahead 1362 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,040 of the state. Um sometimes the state 1363 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,960 forces mandates upon us. In this case, 1364 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,440 we wanted to proceed um with a certain 1365 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,359 permitting process. We have and from 1366 00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:53,599 what I understand uh this has been kind 1367 00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,040 of the administrative approval process 1368 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,240 and we are not as being asked to change 1369 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,319 that. We can continue to follow that 1370 00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:02,880 process. Correct. 1371 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,670 >> Good evening Mayor Council Member uh 1372 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:05,680 » Good evening Mayor Council Member uh 1373 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,800 Popkin. Um that's correct. Yes. 1374 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,309 >> Yeah. Uh and and the administrative 1375 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:10,319 » Yeah. Uh and and the administrative 1376 00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:11,839 process here not only makes sense, but 1377 00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:13,119 I've personally gone through it and it's 1378 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:14,880 smooth and straightforward as long as 1379 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,280 the um electrical is done well. So, I 1380 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,800 just wanted to thank staff and and the 1381 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,559 city for having a smooth process. My 1382 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,079 only other question I had is, and maybe 1383 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,160 this is more of an LPC question, but do 1384 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,640 we know if we still have uh rebates for 1385 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,599 residential or commercial uh chargers? 1386 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:33,119 Is that still um have we have we 1387 00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:34,720 exhausted the funding for that? Thank 1388 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,960 you, Darl. I'm seeing a I'm seeing we've 1389 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,079 exhausted that. So, that's good news 1390 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:39,760 that we've exhausted that. But, uh for 1391 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,839 for anyone still considering uh putting 1392 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,359 a charger, it's a pretty straightforward 1393 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:44,960 process as long as you do it well. I 1394 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,079 appreciate staff's work on this. 1395 00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:50,240 Okay, thank you. Um, would you like to 1396 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,599 move uh resolution 2026-2? 1397 00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:56,390 >> Oh, you did. 1398 00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:56,400 » Oh, you did. 1399 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,109 >> So, moved. 1400 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:57,119 » So, moved. 1401 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,230 >> Okay. And I will second that. Um, 1402 00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:02,240 » Okay. And I will second that. Um, 1403 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:06,160 okay. So, the um resolution 20262 1404 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,280 has been moved by council me or by by 1405 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,799 council member Popkin and I have 1406 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:19,990 seconded that. Let's go ahead and vote. 1407 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,079 Okay, and that carries unanimously. We 1408 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:27,040 are now on to item F, resolution 2026-4. 1409 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,430 Um, pulled by staff. 1410 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,119 Oh, yes. 1411 00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:33,990 >> Surprised you, mayor. 1412 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:34,000 » Surprised you, mayor. 1413 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,670 >> I know. It was I wasn't even looking at 1414 00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:35,680 » I know. It was I wasn't even looking at 1415 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,480 that corner. 1416 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,430 >> Yeah. [laughter] 1417 00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:37,440 » Yeah. [laughter] 1418 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,119 Mayor and council Eugene May, city 1419 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:42,160 attorney. Uh so staff uh asked to pull 1420 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,799 this item because council member PTO 1421 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:46,799 raised an issue with the humane society 1422 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:50,000 contract on page five. Uh there are 1423 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,359 three paragraphs regarding undocumented 1424 00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:55,040 immigrants. 1425 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,559 The history of those paragraphs is there 1426 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:00,880 was a state state bill that required 1427 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,160 this language be in contracts. Uh that 1428 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,280 bill has since been repealed. We were 1429 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,760 using an old version of the Y of the 1430 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,079 Humane Society contract. These 1431 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,640 paragraphs should have been removed and 1432 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,559 unless I hear objection from council, we 1433 00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,079 will remove these paragraphs before 1434 00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:19,920 executing the contract with Humane 1435 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,359 Society. 1436 00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:25,030 >> Okay. Thank you for that. Um and and 1437 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:25,040 » Okay. Thank you for that. Um and and 1438 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,319 thank you for catching that, Council 1439 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:29,040 Member Prietto. Um is there anyone who 1440 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,480 Okay. Nope. Okay. So, okay. So, uh, do I 1441 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,799 have a motion to approve resolution 1442 00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:38,559 2026-4? 1443 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:39,270 >> Motion. 1444 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:39,280 » Motion. 1445 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,670 >> Okay. So, um, that item has been moved 1446 00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:41,680 » Okay. So, um, that item has been moved 1447 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,440 by council member Prietto. Do I have a 1448 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:43,920 second? 1449 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,470 >> Second. 1450 00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:44,480 » Second. 1451 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,069 >> Okay. And it was been seconded by 1452 00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:46,079 » Okay. And it was been seconded by 1453 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,400 council member Marcen. Let's go ahead 1454 00:57:48,400 --> 00:58:04,309 and vote. 1455 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:07,599 Okay, the motion carries unanimously. 1456 00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:09,760 We are now 1457 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,400 on to our general business item and 12A. 1458 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,640 So that is an amendment to the 2023 1459 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,960 action plan for home funding to fund 1460 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,359 Habitat for Humanity of the St. Vine 1461 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:23,200 Valley Rogers Road Housing Development 1462 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000 Project instead of Sunset Duplex's 1463 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:33,589 project. 1464 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,680 Good evening, mayor, members of council. 1465 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,599 Um, Christy Wisman. I'm the housing 1466 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,760 investment manager for the city and we 1467 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,839 have a crew for any questions you may 1468 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:44,640 have. So, also with me is Alexis Macauen 1469 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,240 from the HCI team who's our federal 1470 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,240 funds program manager. And then we also 1471 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,240 have Megan Sant who's my counterpart, 1472 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,000 the housing investment manager for the 1473 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,559 city of Boulder. Um so we don't have a 1474 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,559 presentation prepared tonight but just 1475 00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:00,400 wanted to take this um grant project 1476 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,319 swap question to you and um in essence 1477 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:07,920 Habitat in working with city staff as 1478 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,359 well as city of Boulder staff through 1479 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,760 the home consortium is asking us to 1480 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,880 switch our 2023 award between two of 1481 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,799 their projects. So the award amount will 1482 00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:20,880 stay the same at that 184,712, 1483 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,359 but the Rogers Road project is further 1484 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:24,960 along in entitlements. It's shovel 1485 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,359 ready. And then it also recently 1486 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:30,960 received another um different type of 1487 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,799 home funding through the consortium that 1488 00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:34,319 the city of Boulder manages called the 1489 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:37,119 CHTO set aside. And so we essentially 1490 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,599 want to improve efficiencies by putting 1491 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,119 all the federal funding on the Habitat 1492 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,680 project that's most ready to proceed. So 1493 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,920 this request did come Habitat and 1494 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,920 Longmont and Boulder and Habitat are all 1495 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,000 in alignment with this swap. So we just 1496 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,319 need your formal approval to make that 1497 00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:55,920 change. But happy to answer any 1498 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,880 questions. 1499 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,549 >> Okay. Do we have any questions of 1500 00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:58,559 » Okay. Do we have any questions of 1501 00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:03,200 council? Okay. Council member Popkin. 1502 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,710 >> Uh thank you very much for bringing this 1503 01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:04,720 » Uh thank you very much for bringing this 1504 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,319 forward. um and for all the work that's 1505 01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:08,079 been going on I presume in the back end 1506 01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:09,839 for a lot of the shifting here. What's 1507 01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:13,280 the downside if we didn't like what what 1508 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,040 what's the consequence that projects 1509 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,960 slow down because the funding would be 1510 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,400 redistributed to projects that aren't 1511 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,640 shovel ready? 1512 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,390 >> Yeah. So, one of the main downsides is 1513 01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:22,400 » Yeah. So, one of the main downsides is 1514 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,160 then we would have um two projects that 1515 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,559 are requiring the same level of HUD 1516 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,880 compliance through the home program in 1517 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,640 our view unnecessarily. So, we would 1518 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,280 have to do um the same level of 1519 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,920 compliance on Sunset Duplexes and Rogers 1520 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,079 Road as opposed to concentrating our 1521 01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:43,520 monitoring on just one project. Um and 1522 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,640 then because Rogers Road is more shovel 1523 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,880 ready, it's materially funded, there is 1524 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,319 a chance that if this 184,000 award is 1525 01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:55,440 not granted, Habitat may have a gap. So, 1526 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,280 they might have to come back to the 1527 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,720 city, for example, for our affordable 1528 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,119 housing fund round in 2026. and it would 1529 01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:04,640 just delay the project, but they are um 1530 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,000 essentially they have their entitlements 1531 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,119 and they're ready to complete 1532 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,599 construction as soon as the award um 1533 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,839 grant agreements are executed for the 1534 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:12,640 federal funds. 1535 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,270 >> Thank you. So, in in in effect, we're by 1536 01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:15,280 » Thank you. So, in in in effect, we're by 1537 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,240 consolidating these two, not by bundling 1538 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,920 the two together, basically you're 1539 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,400 actually streamlining the oversight in 1540 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,319 some ways because one project follows 1541 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:26,319 all of the I mean, they both have to 1542 01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:27,599 follow the rules if they receive the 1543 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,640 funding. In this case, one project will 1544 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,040 gets all of the funding and so the same 1545 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,799 requirements still have to be met anyway 1546 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:36,000 and the other project has more 1547 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,240 flexibility. Is that the kind of notion 1548 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,520 right now? 1549 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,092 >> Yeah, essentially there are um a 1550 01:01:42,092 --> 01:01:42,102 » Yeah, essentially there are um a 1551 01:01:42,102 --> 01:01:44,880 [clears throat] lot of federal 1552 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,319 regulations that come into play 1553 01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:47,839 especially with procurement. So when 1554 01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,599 Habitat goes to procure their general 1555 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,440 contractor to do the actual construction 1556 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,960 work, the steps that they have to take 1557 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,880 and the way they have to do that bidding 1558 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,640 is very specific to to CFR 200 and those 1559 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,480 federal rules when there's home funds in 1560 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,119 play. And so um they're happy to do that 1561 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:05,839 for one project, but if we can remove um 1562 01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:08,799 this 184,000 would be the only federal 1563 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:11,040 source on the Sunset Duplexus project 1564 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,520 and that's a relatively small amount of 1565 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,200 money for how much compliance comes with 1566 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,520 it. So, we'd prefer to stack all the 1567 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,440 federal funds on one project just for 1568 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,359 monitoring efficiency. And if HUD comes 1569 01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:24,559 and monitors us, they're looking at one 1570 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:26,000 project as opposed to two. 1571 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,510 >> Yeah. Great. Thank you for explaining 1572 01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:27,520 » Yeah. Great. Thank you for explaining 1573 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,559 that. Appreciate it. 1574 01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,109 >> Okay. 1575 01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:31,119 » Okay. 1576 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,510 >> Council member Christ. 1577 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:33,520 » Council member Christ. 1578 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,030 >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, so Christie, are 1579 01:02:37,030 --> 01:02:37,040 » Thank you, Mayor. Um, so Christie, are 1580 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,640 you going to be short on the sunset 1581 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,280 duplexes at some point and have to have 1582 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,359 to apply for more funding to finish 1583 01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:45,200 those? 1584 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,480 Yeah, thank you for your question, 1585 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,230 Council Member McCen. I did re see re 1586 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:48,880 re see re see re see re see your email 1587 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,400 early this afternoon. I haven't had a 1588 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,319 chance to reach out to Dave Emerson 1589 01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:53,760 who's the direct executive director of 1590 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,200 Habitat. Um my understanding is the 1591 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,680 Sunset Duplex's project is 1592 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,880 so much further behind in Habitat's um 1593 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,040 kind of development planning that they 1594 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,960 have more time. Um, I don't know for 1595 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,559 sure whether they plan to come in to 1596 01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,000 supplant this 184,000 with, for example, 1597 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,240 another affordable housing fund ask. The 1598 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,000 last time I saw a proforma for that 1599 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160 project was over 6 months ago. So, I'm 1600 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,119 not sure what other fundraising Habitat 1601 01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:24,799 has done in the meantime on Sunset 1602 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:28,400 Duplexes. Um, but this request for this 1603 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,960 award swap did come from Habitat. So, 1604 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,440 Habitat is asking for this change to 1605 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,160 help them meet their um development 1606 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,680 capacity because they can really only 1607 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,440 focus on so many projects at a time and 1608 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,440 that one's just a little further behind. 1609 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,430 >> Yeah. Okay. So, we'll probably be seeing 1610 01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:43,440 » Yeah. Okay. So, we'll probably be seeing 1611 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,119 something about Sunset again, but we 1612 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,039 have time to work on it. 1613 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:48,870 >> Yeah, exactly. And if they were to come 1614 01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:48,880 » Yeah, exactly. And if they were to come 1615 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,200 ask for more funding for that project, 1616 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,880 um we would get an updated perform 1617 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,920 sources and uses and um work with 1618 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,680 Habitat to see what's changed with the 1619 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,920 funding picture for for Sunset in the 1620 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:01,520 last several months since I've last seen 1621 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,520 the performer for that project. 1622 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,270 >> Okay, thank you Christie. 1623 01:04:05,270 --> 01:04:05,280 » Okay, thank you Christie. 1624 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,750 >> Okay, thank you. Um so do we have a 1625 01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:07,760 » Okay, thank you. Um so do we have a 1626 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,400 motion to approve the 2023 home grant 1627 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,880 award allocation as amended? 1628 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,829 >> Okay, second. So, um, the motion has 1629 01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:15,839 » Okay, second. So, um, the motion has 1630 01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:18,559 been made by Mayor Prom McCoy, seconded 1631 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,880 by Council Member Christ. 1632 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,760 Um, and we can go ahead and vote. 1633 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:31,109 There's no further discussion. 1634 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:32,640 Okay. And the motion carries 1635 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,119 unanimously. We are now Thank you very 1636 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:35,359 much. 1637 01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:39,109 >> Uhhuh. Thank you. 1638 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,240 » Okay. We are now on to our city council 1639 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,480 appointments, liaison appointments to 1640 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,960 boards. So there is no formal staff 1641 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,240 presentation. What's that? 1642 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,270 >> I said let's park. 1643 01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:49,280 » I said let's park. 1644 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,029 >> Let's party like 1645 01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:53,039 » Let's party like 1646 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,760 um yeah. So [laughter] do we need a 1647 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,039 break before this? 1648 01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:57,430 >> No. 1649 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:57,440 » No. 1650 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,470 >> Maybe after. Okay. So um there are there 1651 01:05:00,470 --> 01:05:00,480 » Maybe after. Okay. So um there are there 1652 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,640 is no staff presentation. It's really 1653 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,520 just for us to ask of council to discuss 1654 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,839 if any board's assignments, you know, 1655 01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:10,000 what would you like to have reshuffled 1656 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,119 for um council member Kulkuffer? 1657 01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:16,319 And if I believe we have the spreadsheet 1658 01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:18,720 on our 1659 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,240 document, so if you want to pull that 1660 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:29,670 up. Um, 1661 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,319 and did anyone want to start? Okay, 1662 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:35,760 we'll start with Council Member Popkin. 1663 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,430 >> Well, I'll kick things off at a 1664 01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:37,440 » Well, I'll kick things off at a 1665 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,559 productive uh member with prospective uh 1666 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,359 Council Member Kauker. Uh, and uh I know 1667 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:45,280 he's passionate about transportation and 1668 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,839 and uh 1669 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:50,640 um the NA uh what is it? the North Area 1670 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,640 Transportation Alliance, a regional 1671 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,400 board and an important one for making 1672 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,760 sure that everything is connected 1673 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,599 literally and figuratively in the 1674 01:05:57,599 --> 01:05:59,680 region. Um, I wanted to offer that. It's 1675 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,599 a It didn't perfectly work with my 1676 01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:03,200 schedule, but I was interested in it and 1677 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,880 it sounds like it does for him, so I 1678 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,160 wanted to put that on the table. 1679 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,190 >> Okay. 1680 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,039 » Is that NA? 1681 01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,275 Yeah. 1682 01:06:13,275 --> 01:06:15,839 [clears throat] And Okay. 1683 01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:20,319 Was there anything else? Oh, okay. Okay. 1684 01:06:20,319 --> 01:06:23,839 So, uh, Council Member Prietto, 1685 01:06:23,839 --> 01:06:25,750 >> uh, yes, I had two boards that did not 1686 01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:25,760 » uh, yes, I had two boards that did not 1687 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,520 work for me. Um, it was the, uh, visit 1688 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,119 Longmont board along with the 1689 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:35,280 sustainability board. Um, I did email 1690 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,760 um, councelor Koffer and he said that 1691 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,200 they would work perfect with his 1692 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,000 schedule. So, um, just wanted to put 1693 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,640 that out there. 1694 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:49,109 >> Okay, great. Um, so I have two, no 1695 01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:49,119 » Okay, great. Um, so I have two, no 1696 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:53,760 actually one internal and two regional. 1697 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,160 Um, okay. 1698 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,160 Council member 1699 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,000 um, Marcine. 1700 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,750 >> Thank you, Mayor. Yeah. Uh, as much as 1701 01:07:01,750 --> 01:07:01,760 » Thank you, Mayor. Yeah. Uh, as much as 1702 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,280 it pains me because I was very much 1703 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,160 looking forward to getting the work 1704 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,280 started and I'd already met with with 1705 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,880 some of these folks, but I I do think in 1706 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,200 terms of proximity, his skill set, his 1707 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,760 interests, I think, uh, LDDDA would be a 1708 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,079 good fit for um, Council Member 1709 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,559 Cockoffer. why I'm I'm happy to hand 1710 01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:18,960 that one over and uh yeah, I I don't 1711 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,720 think my wife will be will be bothered 1712 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,559 if I if I miss another meeting if I have 1713 01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,160 less meetings. So, 1714 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,630 >> okay. 1715 01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:26,640 » okay. 1716 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,870 >> Okay. Council member um Kulkapper, 1717 01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:30,880 » Okay. Council member um Kulkapper, 1718 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,029 >> I will happily take all of those um if 1719 01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:33,039 » I will happily take all of those um if 1720 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:34,960 that's okay with you, mayor. And then um 1721 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,400 I was curious about the commuting 1722 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:36,799 solution. 1723 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:37,990 >> I was going to get to that. I was going 1724 01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:38,000 » I was going to get to that. I was going 1725 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,359 to let let everybody throw their 1726 01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:45,200 their um suggestions out their two cents 1727 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,280 and then I was going to see wanted to 1728 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,200 confirm if commuting solutions 1729 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,039 uh 1730 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:55,039 as the 1731 01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,400 liaison non- voting me um liaison member 1732 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,640 would work for you 1733 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,480 I think is that yeah it is the liaison 1734 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,720 and it's I have here that it's non- 1735 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,000 voting 1736 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,400 So yeah, but if that works for your 1737 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,640 schedule. 1738 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,880 Oh, there you go. No wonder you're not 1739 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,920 answering me. [laughter] 1740 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,510 >> Uh, that one does work for my schedule. 1741 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:17,520 » Uh, that one does work for my schedule. 1742 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,199 And then there's also one other 1743 01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:21,679 transportation one that is not has not 1744 01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:23,600 been assigned. And I wasn't sure if 1745 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,159 Cammy if you figured out what what 1746 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,400 location and what day and time those 1747 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,640 were. 1748 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,470 >> Still working on it. 1749 01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:32,480 » Still working on it. 1750 01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:34,149 >> There's one more. 1751 01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:34,159 » There's one more. 1752 01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:35,269 >> Which one was it? 1753 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:35,279 » Which one was it? 1754 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:38,309 >> Um, yeah. Which one was that? 1755 01:08:38,309 --> 01:08:38,319 » Um, yeah. Which one was that? 1756 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:42,239 Was it the um Northern Colorado Highway 1757 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:43,199 287? 1758 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,149 >> Yes. 1759 01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:44,159 » Yes. 1760 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:45,430 >> Coalition. Okay. 1761 01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:45,440 » Coalition. Okay. 1762 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,349 >> Because there's confusion about is it 1763 01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:47,359 » Because there's confusion about is it 1764 01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:50,960 Boulder or is it in uh Loveland? 1765 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,080 Uh also 1766 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,269 >> so the 287 safety improvement projects 1767 01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:57,279 » so the 287 safety improvement projects 1768 01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,920 there is a section that is on the south 1769 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:01,600 side of Longmont that is run by Boulder 1770 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,120 County and then there's the section 1771 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,560 that's receiving improvements on the 1772 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,880 north side of Longmont which might also 1773 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,920 have a group um in Loveland and or the 1774 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,359 Lmer County. So, we're just trying to 1775 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:12,560 confirm that they're looking for 1776 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,400 representatives from Longmont on both 1777 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,880 for sure the Boulder County one um 1778 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,480 that's on the south side of Longmont, 1779 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:20,560 but both are active projects right now. 1780 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:21,920 So, we just want to make sure that we 1781 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,839 have the right coverage in the right 1782 01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:25,359 places. So, we're just confirming if 1783 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:27,279 there's two coalitions or really just 1784 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:30,159 one coalition. Um but the one in Boulder 1785 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:31,359 is not in question. It's the one up 1786 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:32,960 north. We just want to make sure that we 1787 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,920 have the right details for first. 1788 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,110 >> Okay. Thank you. 1789 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:37,120 » Okay. Thank you. 1790 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,430 >> That helps. Yeah. So, so in the event 1791 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:39,440 » That helps. Yeah. So, so in the event 1792 01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:42,880 something comes open, we can well 1793 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,550 >> I think yeah, if I can confirm just to 1794 01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:44,560 » I think yeah, if I can confirm just to 1795 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,000 make sure we can follow up and then you 1796 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,239 can assign that second 1797 01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:50,870 >> 287 group if there is in fact one. 1798 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:50,880 » 287 group if there is in fact one. 1799 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,709 >> Okay. Okay, sounds good. Thank you. 1800 01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:52,719 » Okay. Okay, sounds good. Thank you. 1801 01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:53,590 >> Okay, you're welcome. 1802 01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:53,600 » Okay, you're welcome. 1803 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,590 >> So, I have five total boards for you. Um 1804 01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:57,600 » So, I have five total boards for you. Um 1805 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,719 only one well one is the um an internal 1806 01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:04,080 and the other four are regional. Um, and 1807 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:09,040 then just kind of looking at, 1808 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,640 you know, where everybody else feels. 1809 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,560 Was there anything else you wanted to 1810 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,640 throw his way? [laughter] 1811 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,040 Are we good for now? And um, yeah. And 1812 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,280 then the other one too, and um, Council 1813 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,040 Member Popkin, this one is directed to 1814 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,520 you, if you are feeling, now that you've 1815 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,520 had a chance to look through the list, 1816 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,120 if you need me, if you want me to pick 1817 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,480 up Dr. COG as the and you be the um 1818 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,960 alternate. 1819 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,480 That one meets Wednesday evenings 1820 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:41,600 in Denver, 1821 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,110 >> the Denver Regional Council of 1822 01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:43,120 » the Denver Regional Council of 1823 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:48,000 Governments and it is um the Wednesday. 1824 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,840 Yeah, I think they have they started at 1825 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,239 4, but it's like a dinner 1826 01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:54,719 deal before it gets started. So, go 1827 01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:57,360 ahead, Council Member Popkin. 1828 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,510 >> Yeah, I was going to ask 1829 01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:59,520 » Yeah, I was going to ask 1830 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,360 What's the usual like window for the 1831 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,360 meeting? Like is it a two hour, three 1832 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,800 hour, 15 hour? What's the the depends on 1833 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,440 who talk? 1834 01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,630 >> It depends on who Stop. Okay, I see 1835 01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:10,640 » It depends on who Stop. Okay, I see 1836 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,840 where you're going with that. Um 1837 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,840 I know they started, if I recall 1838 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,199 correctly, and I don't know if they've 1839 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:18,719 changed it, but I think it went like 1840 01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:21,040 6:00 to 9 or like a 6:30. I thought 1841 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,880 there was a dinner even though it shows 1842 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,159 four o'clock here. 1843 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:24,630 >> Oh, 1844 01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:24,640 » Oh, 1845 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,790 >> and I'll follow follow up with that time 1846 01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:26,800 » and I'll follow follow up with that time 1847 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,360 frame. Um, and I knew um may the mayor 1848 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,520 Pek had often just stayed the night over 1849 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,080 there when she went because it it went 1850 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,960 late. 1851 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,229 >> Um, so, you know, I wanted to throw that 1852 01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:40,239 » Um, so, you know, I wanted to throw that 1853 01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:41,840 back out there. I am fine with just 1854 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,600 keeping it the way it is, 1855 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,590 >> but I wanted to throw that out there for 1856 01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:45,600 » but I wanted to throw that out there for 1857 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,840 you now that you had a chance to digest, 1858 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,320 you know, your assignments. 1859 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,709 >> Yeah, I didn't know it was Okay, that's 1860 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:52,719 » Yeah, I didn't know it was Okay, that's 1861 01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,239 useful to know because technically I 1862 01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:55,440 have that in the planning and zoning 1863 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,280 commission on the same day. I was 1864 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,560 planning to go back to back. 1865 01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,030 >> Oh, 1866 01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:59,040 » Oh, 1867 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,910 >> but if it's a like a for a sleepover 1868 01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:01,920 » but if it's a like a for a sleepover 1869 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:02,960 situation. 1870 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,709 >> Yeah, I would not be sleeping over. I'll 1871 01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:04,719 » Yeah, I would not be sleeping over. I'll 1872 01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:06,960 be driving back at night. Um 1873 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,870 >> um more than uh 1874 01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:10,880 » um more than uh 1875 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,550 >> maybe we can take this off like does 1876 01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:12,560 » maybe we can take this off like does 1877 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,080 this have to be decided right now or 1878 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,790 >> It doesn't I Don and I'm going to defer 1879 01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:16,800 » It doesn't I Don and I'm going to defer 1880 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,800 to you. Is that okay if we discuss 1881 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,560 offline if we want to switch roles or do 1882 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,110 we need to do a formal 1883 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,880 » I think it's up to you if you'd like for 1884 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,199 us to do Dr. Cog will be looking to know 1885 01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:33,199 who the voting 1886 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:34,470 >> appointee is. 1887 01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:34,480 » appointee is. 1888 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:34,790 >> Yes. 1889 01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:34,800 » Yes. 1890 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,030 >> Um with some clarity I think so. 1891 01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:37,040 » Um with some clarity I think so. 1892 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,070 >> Yeah. Well and I think Yeah. So do you 1893 01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:40,080 » Yeah. Well and I think Yeah. So do you 1894 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,640 want us to decide tonight? It'd be 1895 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,640 helpful. But if you need more time and 1896 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,159 you want to monitor it, we can just let 1897 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,239 them know you're 1898 01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:49,990 >> going to see how it goes and alternate 1899 01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:50,000 » going to see how it goes and alternate 1900 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,640 or let us know what you decide. 1901 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:53,990 >> I mean, do you want to try the first 1902 01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:54,000 » I mean, do you want to try the first 1903 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,760 meeting, see how it goes, and then let 1904 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:56,400 me know? 1905 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,590 >> Kind of. I was very interested in it. 1906 01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:59,600 » Kind of. I was very interested in it. 1907 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,480 Um, and supporting the city in that way. 1908 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,560 Yeah. And I guess 1909 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,709 >> and it's historically, you know, I' I've 1910 01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:06,719 » and it's historically, you know, I' I've 1911 01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:09,840 spoken with other mayors who who often 1912 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,080 just assign a council member to do that. 1913 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,600 So, it's not unheard of that the mayor 1914 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,320 is there. I just wanted to 1915 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,830 >> to throw that out because I know the 1916 01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:17,840 » to throw that out because I know the 1917 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,480 former mayor had picked it up. 1918 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,390 >> Yeah, maybe Yeah, let me let me think 1919 01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:22,400 » Yeah, maybe Yeah, let me let me think 1920 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,840 about it. I'm wondering if maybe we tag 1921 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,199 team this depending on what the planning 1922 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:26,320 and zoning commission has on their 1923 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,280 agenda. 1924 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,070 >> That can work as well 1925 01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:28,080 » That can work as well 1926 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,310 >> and maybe we can kind of share that. Um 1927 01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:30,320 » and maybe we can kind of share that. Um 1928 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,760 but yeah, let's take that offline if 1929 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,640 that's okay for 1930 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,350 >> sure. We'll let you do it and then we'll 1931 01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:35,360 » sure. We'll let you do it and then we'll 1932 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,120 see where where we land. Okay. 1933 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,390 >> Appreciate it. Thank you for flagging 1934 01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:38,400 » Appreciate it. Thank you for flagging 1935 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:38,880 that. 1936 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,149 >> Yep. 1937 01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:40,159 » Yep. 1938 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,149 >> Of course. 1939 01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:42,159 » Of course. 1940 01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:44,550 >> Okay. 1941 01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:44,560 » Okay. 1942 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,640 So, I believe are we good to go? 1943 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,189 >> Are Yeah, I noted just to re recap. 1944 01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:49,199 » Are Yeah, I noted just to re recap. 1945 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:52,950 >> Yes. uh for council member Calver uh 1946 01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:52,960 » Yes. uh for council member Calver uh 1947 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,880 NATO visit Longmont Sustainability 1948 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,520 Advisory Board LDDA and commuting 1949 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,600 solutions and then the pending 287 1950 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,679 coalition once we decipher what's 1951 01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:05,679 happening there 1952 01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:05,990 >> okay 1953 01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:06,000 » okay 1954 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,149 >> is all I've noted 1955 01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:08,159 » is all I've noted 1956 01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,360 all that's all 1957 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,270 >> okay that's that's what I have as well 1958 01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:11,280 » okay that's that's what I have as well 1959 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,800 but [laughter] 1960 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,159 it's a load 1961 01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:19,840 okay so now we are on to item C our 2026 1962 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,480 city council retreat agenda planning. 1963 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:26,000 Um, and before Sandy seed, before you 1964 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,560 come, do we need to take a break? 1965 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,416 >> Are we good? Okay, we're going 1966 01:14:30,416 --> 01:14:30,426 » Are we good? Okay, we're going 1967 01:14:30,426 --> 01:14:31,360 [clears throat] to keep on plugging 1968 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:44,870 through. 1969 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,120 All right. Hello, Mayor Hoga Fairing and 1970 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,640 members of council. Sandy Cedar, 1971 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,159 assistant city manager, and I'm here to 1972 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,320 talk about the retreat. Uh, currently 1973 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,400 your retreat is scheduled for March 27th 1974 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,640 and 28th. We are taking a look at some 1975 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,159 different options for where we might 1976 01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,480 hold the retreat. Um, one thing that I 1977 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:02,080 do want to bring up to this group as 1978 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,480 we're kind of discussing and planning. 1979 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,560 Um, is that we believe that that will be 1980 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,640 the same time frame as the opening of 1981 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,440 the ascent property. Um, I know it's 1982 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:12,880 tough to get to a ribbon cutting during 1983 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,400 the day unless you might be at a 1984 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,000 retreat. [laughter] 1985 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,840 And so just as a suggestion, if you're 1986 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,600 interested in us taking a look at 1987 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,600 whether we could have the retreat either 1988 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,000 um at the ascent property or um at 1989 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,360 Hearthstone, if that's something that's 1990 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,800 interesting to you, we would be happy to 1991 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,880 pursue that. Yeah. So we have a whole 1992 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,520 bunch of questions for you today. Um as 1993 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,120 I said, the retreat is scheduled for 1994 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,320 March 27th and 28th. Um and as we put 1995 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,159 together a draft agenda for you, we 1996 01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:41,760 would like to ask a couple of questions 1997 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,520 like what kinds of topics would you like 1998 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,440 to discuss? Would you like to have an 1999 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,600 outside facilitator? Are you interested 2000 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,199 in some sort of team building or 2001 01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,280 communication enhancing kind of 2002 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,520 discussion amongst the council? Um, and 2003 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,040 uh what would essentially what we're 2004 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,480 looking for is what would make the 2005 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:00,880 retreat a success for this city council. 2006 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,880 Uh we talked a little bit about in the 2007 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,800 council communication. We'll certainly 2008 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,239 give you an update on the current 2009 01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:08,719 council work plan as it sits today. That 2010 01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:10,239 doesn't have to be a presentation. It 2011 01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:11,679 can absolutely be just something in 2012 01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:13,040 writing that we're able to put as part 2013 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,719 of the packet. We'll also put our 2014 01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:16,080 accomplishments and work plans because 2015 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,640 we always do. Um, and then it really is 2016 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,400 up to this council to discuss your 2017 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,880 priorities for the year. Um, as well as 2018 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,560 maybe some other topics like boards and 2019 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,480 commissions. If you decide you wanted to 2020 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,400 do it on the study session instead, then 2021 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,600 that's taken care of. But you also may 2022 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,679 be interested in outreach. I know 2023 01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:35,120 there's been a couple of conversations 2024 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,120 around is coffee with council the best 2025 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,400 way to do engagement today. uh it may be 2026 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,840 one component, but maybe there's some 2027 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,120 other things that the council would like 2028 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,880 to discuss. So, those are some of the 2029 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,320 topics that I've heard the council talk 2030 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,640 about so far, but really the floor is up 2031 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,719 to you. Several of you did send me some 2032 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:52,560 ideas and suggestions which I forwarded 2033 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,960 to the entire council. So, uh at this 2034 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,159 point, I turn it back over to you, 2035 01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:57,360 mayor. You let me know what you all 2036 01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,320 would like to see. 2037 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,550 >> Okay. Thanks. I know I was playing 2038 01:17:00,550 --> 01:17:00,560 » Okay. Thanks. I know I was playing 2039 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,440 around with trying to figure out how how 2040 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:06,480 we wanted to go through each each item. 2041 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,120 Um, I do appreciate the emails and thank 2042 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,000 you for forwarding those to us. Um, it 2043 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,960 gave me a better insight into kind of 2044 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,120 where everybody's at. And, you know, and 2045 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,600 I kind of see a lot of alignment in in 2046 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,199 some of those, you know, es especially 2047 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,120 as we looked at team building. I know 2048 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,719 there was not wanting to get too caught 2049 01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:28,159 up in the fru, you know, I Yeah, I'm not 2050 01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,159 going to go into [laughter] 2051 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:34,000 work stuff, but um, but I've been there. 2052 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:39,040 Yes. Um, so in I do want to I I just 2053 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,560 want to throw in really quick before we 2054 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,360 start getting into the meat of what we 2055 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,960 want to add. I really enjoyed the um and 2056 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,600 I it was Brian Shimat Shimato 2057 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,229 >> Shimamoto 2058 01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:52,239 » Shimamoto 2059 01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:55,430 >> Shimamoto who did the um intercultural 2060 01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:55,440 » Shimamoto who did the um intercultural 2061 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:57,440 development inventory and I had to go 2062 01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:01,120 talk call Carmen contact Carmen and like 2063 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,480 help me remember what was the name of 2064 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:05,840 that. Um so looking at that really 2065 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,239 helped me to un understand what type of 2066 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,640 leader I am, how I perceive information, 2067 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,679 how I take in information, but also how 2068 01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:16,159 my council colleagues take in 2069 01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,000 information, how they respond and that 2070 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,040 really helped me become a better, more 2071 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,000 efficient leader um more responsive 2072 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,480 leader as well as you know responding to 2073 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,520 my to my council colleagues um who also 2074 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,400 were a part of this training. Was anyone 2075 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,080 here? Were you here for that one for the 2076 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,520 did you take the survey? I think you 2077 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,870 >> No, I didn't take the survey, but I was 2078 01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:38,880 » No, I didn't take the survey, but I was 2079 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,880 there for the results for Okay. 2080 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,310 >> Council and it was 2081 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:42,320 » Council and it was 2082 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,470 >> and so there is Yeah. And I thought it 2083 01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:44,480 » and so there is Yeah. And I thought it 2084 01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:47,120 was very powerful for me to to for 2085 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,440 self-reflective piece. So I I think 2086 01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:52,239 about team building. I mean there could 2087 01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:55,280 be something fun, but I it doesn't seem 2088 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,920 like that's necessary. But if we look at 2089 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,960 really how we are as 2090 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,520 leaders, how we how we react to things, 2091 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,719 how we respond to um situations and for 2092 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,199 us to learn learn that about each other. 2093 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,600 I think that would be very beneficial. 2094 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,480 Um does anyone have any Oh, go ahead if 2095 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:15,440 you want to speak more to that. 2096 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:16,390 >> I was just going to say one of the 2097 01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:16,400 » I was just going to say one of the 2098 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,000 suggestions I think from council member 2099 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,760 Chris was the Clifton StrengthFinder. 2100 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,679 That's I have certainly taken that um 2101 01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:23,360 assessment before and that has been very 2102 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,199 helpful. Okay. Harold has a few other 2103 01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:27,600 assessments that he uses along with his 2104 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,400 um consultant Riley. And so if if that's 2105 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:31,760 the kind of thing that you're interested 2106 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,840 in, we'd be happy to kind of, you know, 2107 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,040 talk about what would make the most 2108 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,960 sense and bring back that kind of thing. 2109 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,560 Take an assessment and then learn about 2110 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,880 each other's styles as opposed to an 2111 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,920 icebreaker. [laughter] 2112 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,149 >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I I think I think that 2113 01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:44,159 » Yeah. Yeah. No, I I think I think that 2114 01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:45,600 would be more beneficial. 2115 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,149 >> Okay. 2116 01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:46,159 » Okay. 2117 01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,470 >> Um I think we've already broken the ice 2118 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:48,480 » Um I think we've already broken the ice 2119 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:51,669 around here. [laughter] 2120 01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:54,080 » Um so 2121 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,000 Yeah. And so, okay. Oops. And I think Go 2122 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,000 ahead, Council Member Popkin. Yes. 2123 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,590 >> Yeah. Just a quick follow on on that 2124 01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:01,600 » Yeah. Just a quick follow on on that 2125 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,719 topic for a minute and then I would 2126 01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,320 welcome I'd love to hear from other 2127 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,920 council members on their ideas. 2128 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,550 >> Um, when we do this kind of a session, 2129 01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:08,560 » Um, when we do this kind of a session, 2130 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,080 can we also think of not just what are 2131 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,280 each other's what are each other's 2132 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,000 strengths, but also how do people work 2133 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,560 together most effectively across those 2134 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,000 different approaches? Sometimes that 2135 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,280 gets lost in the approach. Is that part 2136 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,199 of that's built in? Okay, great. Just 2137 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:22,560 wanted to make sure that was included. 2138 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:23,040 Thank you. 2139 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:23,990 >> Yes, 2140 01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:24,000 » Yes, 2141 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,229 >> we actually uh have one that is AI based 2142 01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:28,239 » we actually uh have one that is AI based 2143 01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:30,960 that you can put questions in like I 2144 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,040 could say I need to talk to Sandy about 2145 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,960 this. How do I best communicate to 2146 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,239 Sandy? And it actually gives you a game 2147 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,159 plan for the conversation so that you 2148 01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:43,199 make sure your style is communicating to 2149 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:45,679 the other person's style. 2150 01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:46,149 >> Interesting. 2151 01:20:46,149 --> 01:20:46,159 » Interesting. 2152 01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:47,350 >> That would be interesting. But wait, 2153 01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:47,360 » That would be interesting. But wait, 2154 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,360 wait. So my style is inputed in AI. 2155 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,430 >> No. So, you take a test. Yeah. And it 2156 01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:53,440 » No. So, you take a test. Yeah. And it 2157 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,040 tells you kind of this is you and it 2158 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,360 tells me who Sandy is and then we go, 2159 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,199 okay, I need to talk to Sandy about this 2160 01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:01,360 and it gives me a game plan to make sure 2161 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,719 that we're 2162 01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:04,550 >> actually communicating with each other. 2163 01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:04,560 » actually communicating with each other. 2164 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:04,870 >> Okay. 2165 01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:04,880 » Okay. 2166 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,470 >> It's a closed data loop. 2167 01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:06,480 » It's a closed data loop. 2168 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:07,750 >> It's a closed data system. 2169 01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:07,760 » It's a closed data system. 2170 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,510 >> Data loop. It doesn't go It's not chat 2171 01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:09,520 » Data loop. It doesn't go It's not chat 2172 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,199 GP. 2173 01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:13,520 It's a closed data system where after 2174 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:14,320 you take your assessment, 2175 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,149 >> the way Susie behaves is out there in 2176 01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:16,159 » the way Susie behaves is out there in 2177 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:18,320 the ethos. [laughter] 2178 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,790 >> Okay. Um, Council Member Prietto, 2179 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:22,800 » Okay. Um, Council Member Prietto, 2180 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,830 >> this is not my recommendation for the 2181 01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:25,840 » this is not my recommendation for the 2182 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,880 retreat, but just a comment to your 2183 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:29,280 suggestion. 2184 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:30,630 >> Oh, yes, please. Yeah. 2185 01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:30,640 » Oh, yes, please. Yeah. 2186 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,669 >> Um, so, and I just want to put it out 2187 01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:33,679 » Um, so, and I just want to put it out 2188 01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:34,800 there. I think it's going to be really 2189 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,760 important like the kind of that 2190 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,920 relationship building piece because a 2191 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,800 lot of how we work comes from who we are 2192 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,159 and our roots and our background. Um, 2193 01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:47,760 and so I think it's going to be 2194 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,159 important to like really learn about one 2195 01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:53,600 another and where we're from and how we 2196 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,199 were raised and different things like 2197 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,520 that in order to 2198 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,550 >> fully understand what's oh that makes 2199 01:22:00,550 --> 01:22:00,560 » fully understand what's oh that makes 2200 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,320 sense that this person's work style is 2201 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,239 this or their their communication style 2202 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:05,360 is this. 2203 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,750 >> And so just wanted to point that out. I 2204 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:07,760 » And so just wanted to point that out. I 2205 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,679 so like along with that discussion 2206 01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:11,280 making sure that we have that foundation 2207 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,239 of like 2208 01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:13,669 >> just getting to know one another. 2209 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:13,679 » just getting to know one another. 2210 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,910 >> Yeah. And I noticed that like having 2211 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:15,920 » Yeah. And I noticed that like having 2212 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,880 those conversations did organically that 2213 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,360 did allow us to to share out and to get 2214 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,040 an understanding of who we are. 2215 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,070 >> Yes. Gotcha. 2216 01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:26,080 » Yes. Gotcha. 2217 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,149 >> Um but yeah, so if you can we can make 2218 01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:28,159 » Um but yeah, so if you can we can make 2219 01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:31,600 sure that's incorporated in there. Um 2220 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,480 who are you? Mayor [laughter] 2221 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,550 >> Mayor Pro McCoy. I was like, who's 2222 01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:36,560 » Mayor Pro McCoy. I was like, who's 2223 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,199 number four? 2224 01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:39,910 >> Thank you, mayor. I was looking at some 2225 01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:39,920 » Thank you, mayor. I was looking at some 2226 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,679 of the uh council uh members um uh 2227 01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:46,560 thoughts on this and I I really did like 2228 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,120 uh council member uh Cole Coffer. Am I 2229 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,800 saying that right? Okay. um comfort 2230 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,350 >> the the thing the meat and potato is 2231 01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:55,360 » the the thing the meat and potato is 2232 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,600 part of what we're trying to do here in 2233 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,400 the sense of uh council goals and 2234 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,560 objectives and revisiting that aspect 2235 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,600 and and the fact that we're people kind 2236 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,239 of needing to understand the broader 2237 01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:11,280 aspects of envision Longmont and the 2238 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,600 updates and aspects of that and then I 2239 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,360 you know I I think of the uh fire fire 2240 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,040 preparedness um um I I think is 2241 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,320 specifically after a couple of uh you 2242 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,719 know plane crashes and stuff like that 2243 01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:31,440 out at the airport. How with you know 2244 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:36,560 very flammable fuels uh would be um 2245 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,080 particularly 2246 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,800 important and interesting to to explore. 2247 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,120 you know, what what safety measures we 2248 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,280 have there and and what maybe safety 2249 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,120 measures we need to consider 2250 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,159 implementing at a at that location. Um, 2251 01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:54,719 you know, Sundance, 2252 01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:56,800 I think maybe getting everybody on the 2253 01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,320 same page of what's happening for the 2254 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,560 first year at Sundance, but I don't know 2255 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,360 that that's a a super high level and 2256 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,199 long conversation just because for the 2257 01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:11,760 most part, we're going to be housing 2258 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,960 workers and volunteers and maybe getting 2259 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,679 people understanding that they're not 2260 01:24:17,679 --> 01:24:19,440 going to have this. I think there's this 2261 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:22,239 perception in the general audience of uh 2262 01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:25,360 Longmont uh uh community members that 2263 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,280 there's there's we're going to have a 2264 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,000 bigger impact. The bigger impact is kind 2265 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,920 of getting people's heads around the 2266 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,440 idea of having 2267 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,600 uh resources uh ready and prepared for 2268 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,480 when people come back into town in the 2269 01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:45,280 evening. and maybe uh making sure that 2270 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,840 our restaurants and other uh services 2271 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,880 are there for 2272 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,600 uh those folks because that's truly 2273 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,040 putting our best foot forward and 2274 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880 understanding the expectation of it. So 2275 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,880 I think that's some of those 2276 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,360 conversations need to be had and make 2277 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,440 sure that we're saying the same thing 2278 01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:05,600 over and over again as we talk about 2279 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,520 what that looks like. Are are you saying 2280 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,360 that you see that as a retreat topic or 2281 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,280 like a study session topic as we're 2282 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,760 starting a retreat topic and kind of a 2283 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,800 but not a not a a super in-depth? It's 2284 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:17,679 more of like 2285 01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:18,390 >> an update. 2286 01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:18,400 » an update. 2287 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,910 >> Yeah. More of an update and keeping 2288 01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:19,920 » Yeah. More of an update and keeping 2289 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,199 people on 2290 01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:25,350 >> uh on the a on brand for what we're 2291 01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:25,360 » uh on the a on brand for what we're 2292 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,440 trying to accomplish because we got a 2293 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:28,880 lot of people trying to make this thing 2294 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,560 work right. We really want to come 2295 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,000 across as the community that that helps 2296 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,719 support bringing Sundance here. Okay. 2297 01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:40,080 And then before we go on, so um Sandy, 2298 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,639 do you feel like number three, the team 2299 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:45,760 building segment, do you think that's we 2300 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,280 can check that off? Okay. So that's 2301 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,719 done. So looking at kind of processing 2302 01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:55,760 uh fire preparedness update on uh 2303 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,760 Sundance, 2304 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,639 uh trying to think looking at um other 2305 01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:04,000 department pieces. I guess that would be 2306 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,920 maybe number two. what reports and 2307 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,159 presentations would be helpful. Now, I 2308 01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:10,239 did catch in one of them talking about 2309 01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:12,480 the state of the departments. 2310 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,189 >> Um, I'm going to respectfully disagree, 2311 01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:15,199 » Um, I'm going to respectfully disagree, 2312 01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:17,360 respectfully disagree. Um, it is 2313 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,600 important that we do know where the 2314 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,159 departments are as far as what their 2315 01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,800 reality is, especially when we're making 2316 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,840 goals that where there's money implied. 2317 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,239 And so, we need to know kind of what the 2318 01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:32,639 demands are of staff. Um, it doesn't 2319 01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:34,960 have to really be in depth as far as 2320 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,040 what, you know, what they're presenting 2321 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,040 to us, but I think it's really important 2322 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,120 and I really value that, especially my 2323 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,280 first couple of years on council is 2324 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,760 understanding what the departments have 2325 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,360 to do, what what is their reality, their 2326 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,320 staffing, their so if we're looking for, 2327 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,159 you know, looking at development and 2328 01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:56,719 we're looking at adding new initiatives 2329 01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:59,280 that we need to make sure that our staff 2330 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,120 has what they need so they can be 2331 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:01,920 successful. 2332 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,560 So, it's just kind of adding that extra 2333 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,520 lens and perspective. Um, so I would 2334 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,080 like something where staff does give us 2335 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,840 and it doesn't have to be super long or 2336 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,639 super intense. Um, you know, intense, 2337 01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:17,120 but I did appreciate just from my own 2338 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,159 experience. 2339 01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:20,310 >> Yeah, I was going to ask I think what I 2340 01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:20,320 » Yeah, I was going to ask I think what I 2341 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,239 wanted to do is really a capacity 2342 01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:23,040 conversation. 2343 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,550 >> Yes. Because I think in all of this 2344 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:26,560 » Yes. Because I think in all of this 2345 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,719 there's a finite capacity 2346 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:30,629 >> and it's based on what we're already 2347 01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:30,639 » and it's based on what we're already 2348 01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:32,880 working on and what we're wanting to 2349 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,040 work on and balancing that capacity 2350 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,360 because you've heard me say this 2351 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,719 recently. We're we're at max capacity in 2352 01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:43,199 some ways which is going to have to come 2353 01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:46,000 into the decision-m process in terms of 2354 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,760 what do we take on now? What do we take 2355 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,760 on down the road? So, 2356 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,709 >> I've done a capacity presentation at the 2357 01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:52,719 » I've done a capacity presentation at the 2358 01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:54,960 last two that may 2359 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,470 >> capture that, but I'm going to do it 2360 01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:56,480 » capture that, but I'm going to do it 2361 01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,320 from a holistic perspective of the 2362 01:27:58,320 --> 01:27:59,840 entire organization 2363 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,510 >> if that's what you're getting at. Yes. 2364 01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:01,520 » if that's what you're getting at. Yes. 2365 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,679 But I would like to do that just to set 2366 01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:05,040 the framework. 2367 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,550 >> Of course. Yeah. And you know, and I 2368 01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:06,560 » Of course. Yeah. And you know, and I 2369 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,040 think about FTE, you know, I've been in 2370 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,440 close conversations with our fire and um 2371 01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:13,120 public safety and just, you know, 2372 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,760 looking at their capacity, you know, 2373 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,199 especially as we're looking at higher 2374 01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:19,440 density. what does that mean? Do we have 2375 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,560 enough people on on staff to to address 2376 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,600 if there's apartment fire? And so so 2377 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,000 just knowing those dynamics. Um that's 2378 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,520 just my input, 2379 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:34,709 >> but go ahead uh Council Member Marcen. 2380 01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:37,760 » Oh, did I put on the wrong one? I did. 2381 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,560 So I apologize. So thank you, Mayor, and 2382 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:41,920 I appreciate you raising that. And I and 2383 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,280 I want to be clear about the context of 2384 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:44,560 the the note that I sent. It was 2385 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,159 certainly not intended to be, you know, 2386 01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:47,679 disrespectful of staff or anything like 2387 01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:49,360 that in the lightest. I think I think 2388 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,719 anyone who's been in meetings long 2389 01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,560 enough knows that there are I'm going to 2390 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,639 report out for 45 minutes about this. 2391 01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:56,480 And I think for for me personally, I 2392 01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:58,639 think there absolutely capacity is a 2393 01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:00,400 valuable conversation. What can staff 2394 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,719 handle? What individual projects are 2395 01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:04,400 maybe we're not aware of that staff is 2396 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,960 working on day-to-day? I think from my 2397 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,960 perspective, the thing that I would that 2398 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,800 that just and again one of seven the 2399 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,120 having that space to talk with each 2400 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,400 other about shared goals and priorities 2401 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,239 in in 2402 01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:23,120 just knowing that time is an asset that 2403 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,040 that that would be my priority if we had 2404 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,120 the the choice between the two. So, I 2405 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,320 just wanted to clarify certainly not 2406 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,400 looking to be at all, you know, 2407 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,159 disrespectful of staff or staff time. 2408 01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:33,679 And and that's part of the goal, too, is 2409 01:29:33,679 --> 01:29:35,199 I I would hope that staff doesn't have 2410 01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:36,960 to do a lot of preparation for this 2411 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,239 retreat. I would hope that it's that 2412 01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:39,920 it's us that has to carry a lot of that 2413 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,080 load as we move forward. So, thank you, 2414 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,120 Mayor. 2415 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,870 >> Of course. No, and I didn't take it that 2416 01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:44,880 » Of course. No, and I didn't take it that 2417 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,679 way. I just wanted to add some context 2418 01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:49,280 to that piece. So, I'm going to kick it 2419 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,800 back to Council Member Christ and then 2420 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,669 I'll work my way to the other side. 2421 01:29:55,679 --> 01:29:58,400 Well, this is slightly from the um side 2422 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,719 talking about this, but um just an 2423 01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:02,639 observation that most of us have come 2424 01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:05,040 off of a campaign recently. So, we've 2425 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,880 been on a a real listening tour and it's 2426 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,120 important to take all that information 2427 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,360 and discuss it and even the nuances of 2428 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,360 it because a lot of it comes down to the 2429 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,239 same topics that we talk about here. How 2430 01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:21,360 do we engage with the public better? How 2431 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,480 do we um 2432 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,719 how do we see unintended consequences 2433 01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:28,880 before we end up there? How, you know, 2434 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,480 how do we solve some of these problems 2435 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,000 that have been plaguing us where we're 2436 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,159 just not quite where we want to be with 2437 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:36,880 them? And so, I think it takes a wider 2438 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,159 lens and a wider understanding of how 2439 01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,159 how we all approach problems because I 2440 01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:43,840 think if we put all our all of our heads 2441 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,320 together, we will have every 2442 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,199 every sector covered and we'll come up 2443 01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,600 with some good ideas. not to overwhelm 2444 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,000 staff. And I think one of the advantages 2445 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,159 also of having a second day is we can 2446 01:30:56,159 --> 01:30:58,480 kind of hash all this out and then have 2447 01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:01,840 a list of questions for staff 2448 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,880 to school us. You know, I I think you 2449 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,120 have an amazing amount of information, 2450 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,239 talent, and um insights after doing this 2451 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:15,440 for so many years. So um yeah. Uh, so I 2452 01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,520 didn't come up with a list of specific 2453 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,120 topics yet, although I kind of have them 2454 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,679 in my head because I think everybody has 2455 01:31:21,679 --> 01:31:23,280 heard some of the same things, but maybe 2456 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,239 in different ways. And I want to hear 2457 01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:28,480 all those different ways that people 2458 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,639 come to us with concerns, but also, you 2459 01:31:30,639 --> 01:31:32,080 know, what they like and what they don't 2460 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,239 like. Some things are positive for some 2461 01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:36,400 people and negative for others, but but 2462 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,040 what what is the what are the roots of 2463 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,880 that? and uh Mayor Hoga, one thing that 2464 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,800 um I was thinking about with respect to 2465 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,639 council member Christ's motion at the 2466 01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:48,480 beginning of this particular council 2467 01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,159 session around taking a look at the 2468 01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:51,760 National Civic League's, you know, kind 2469 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,000 of framework around some of that. We can 2470 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,760 continue. The current motion is to do 2471 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,000 that in a pre session. I assume we would 2472 01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,520 probably be able to still fit in a 2473 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:00,960 preession before the retreat. I'm 2474 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,320 looking at Harold and he can say 2475 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,480 absolutely not. But the presession on 2476 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:05,920 the National Civic Leave kind of 2477 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,679 framework for engagement. But if 2478 01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:08,880 engagement is something that you'd like 2479 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,320 to talk about in the retreat, it may 2480 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,840 make sense to have that discussion at 2481 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,679 the retreat rather than at a presession 2482 01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:15,679 kind of segregated. Yeah. So learning 2483 01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:17,199 more about the National Civic League 2484 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:19,120 framework, talking a little bit about, 2485 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,639 you know, what the community engagement 2486 01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:22,960 looks like today and what your ideas are 2487 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,520 for making that more robust over time. 2488 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,679 Um, you know, that that might be a nice 2489 01:32:27,679 --> 01:32:29,280 one to put together at the retreat if 2490 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,719 you're interested. Otherwise, we'll run 2491 01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:32,560 a preession ahead of time. 2492 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,550 >> Okay. Um, do you feel like you need to 2493 01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:34,560 » Okay. Um, do you feel like you need to 2494 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,600 have it as a presession or can we 2495 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,679 compile this to the retreat? 2496 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:44,560 And I'm looking for your 2497 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,390 >> I think there are two options. We could 2498 01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:46,400 » I think there are two options. We could 2499 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,719 actually have them facilitate and have 2500 01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:51,280 us learn the system which could be fun 2501 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,040 and it also would be something that the 2502 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,239 public might see. 2503 01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:57,110 >> Yeah. and and or have the conversation 2504 01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:57,120 » Yeah. and and or have the conversation 2505 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,639 earlier and and then at at retreat 2506 01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:01,189 >> either one 2507 01:33:01,189 --> 01:33:01,199 » either one 2508 01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:02,950 >> discuss you know how we might implement 2509 01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:02,960 » discuss you know how we might implement 2510 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,120 that and maybe 2511 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,390 >> maybe both you know maybe we we try it 2512 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:08,400 » maybe both you know maybe we we try it 2513 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,239 out on ourselves makes ourselves the 2514 01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:12,080 guinea pigs and then what we learn from 2515 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,400 that we say okay we think this would 2516 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,880 work in this arena or with these types 2517 01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,679 of problems issues concerns 2518 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,310 >> so maybe we'll hold off on the preession 2519 01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:22,320 » so maybe we'll hold off on the preession 2520 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,639 until scheduling a presession until 2521 01:33:24,639 --> 01:33:28,000 after the retreat. Do cover this at the 2522 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,320 retreat and then we can figure out how 2523 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,360 we want to organize the presession. 2524 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:34,470 >> Let's decide if we're going to have a 2525 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:34,480 » Let's decide if we're going to have a 2526 01:33:34,480 --> 01:33:35,920 facilitator or not. 2527 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:36,149 >> Okay? 2528 01:33:36,149 --> 01:33:36,159 » Okay? 2529 01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:37,430 >> Because I don't think we've decided that 2530 01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:37,440 » Because I don't think we've decided that 2531 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,280 yet, but if we're going to have an 2532 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,040 external facilitator, I would like them 2533 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,880 to come in and and just introduce the 2534 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,560 topic to us. They don't have to 2535 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,800 facilitate. 2536 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,790 >> That would be number four. Is that kind 2537 01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:48,800 » That would be number four. Is that kind 2538 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,639 of what I'm looking at? Okay. 2539 01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:51,110 >> Yes. 2540 01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:51,120 » Yes. 2541 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,790 >> So, thank you. Okay. Okay. And then now 2542 01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:52,800 » So, thank you. Okay. Okay. And then now 2543 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,400 um Council Member Prietto, 2544 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,430 >> I don't know. 2545 01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:57,440 » I don't know. 2546 01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,669 >> I have two suggestions. Is Is this an 2547 01:33:59,669 --> 01:33:59,679 » I have two suggestions. Is Is this an 2548 01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:00,239 appropriate time? 2549 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:01,110 >> Yeah, go for it. 2550 01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:01,120 » Yeah, go for it. 2551 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,390 >> Okay. Um so one of my suggestions is um 2552 01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:04,400 » Okay. Um so one of my suggestions is um 2553 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,159 with potential federal funding cuts 2554 01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:07,920 coming down the pipeline to some of the 2555 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,560 social service programs. Um I would like 2556 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,480 to add some human service discussions 2557 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:14,320 around funding programs and just a 2558 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,840 general overview of where Longmont 2559 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,040 stands in meeting some of the 2560 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,480 community's most basic needs. um 2561 01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:22,159 specifically child care, eviction 2562 01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:25,280 prevention, food access, etc. Um so 2563 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,280 that's one of them. Staff can just 2564 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,960 provide us a presentation or we can have 2565 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,199 a discussion maybe just let us know like 2566 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:32,639 this is what we're doing around child 2567 01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:34,480 care. This is what we're doing and and 2568 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,280 of course including other um community 2569 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,719 stakeholders because of course the city 2570 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:40,800 of Longmont doesn't own 2571 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,790 >> um all of it. We're working with a lot 2572 01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:42,800 » um all of it. We're working with a lot 2573 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,480 of community partners who are doing some 2574 01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:45,920 really good work in the community. But 2575 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,880 just so we know as council where where 2576 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,960 do we need to focus our attention, where 2577 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,120 do we need to respond? And I'm hoping by 2578 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,760 then we'll know exactly what that impact 2579 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,480 looks like um to our community and and 2580 01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,639 where the needs are. 2581 01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:02,159 And then I have another suggestion if 2582 01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:03,360 you want me to pause. 2583 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,390 >> Um so those two, so child care and 2584 01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:06,400 » Um so those two, so child care and 2585 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,560 federal funding and what was 2586 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,590 >> uh eviction prevention access 2587 01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:11,600 » uh eviction prevention access 2588 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,149 >> kind of the the the kind of the top. So 2589 01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:14,159 » kind of the the the kind of the top. So 2590 01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:15,760 it's so yeah. So, we're going to have 2591 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,920 federal impacts that are going to be 2592 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,830 >> uh impacting child care, um housing, 2593 01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:21,840 » uh impacting child care, um housing, 2594 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,679 like so eviction prevention was one of 2595 01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:24,960 the things I was thinking of and then 2596 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:25,600 food access. 2597 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,189 >> Food access. Oh yeah, that was the other 2598 01:35:27,189 --> 01:35:27,199 » Food access. Oh yeah, that was the other 2599 01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:27,440 one 2600 01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:28,870 >> because I know that that is was 2601 01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:28,880 » because I know that that is was 2602 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,159 identified as one of the needs on the um 2603 01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:33,040 community survey. 2604 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,870 >> And then could that be incorporated in 2605 01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:34,880 » And then could that be incorporated in 2606 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,360 part in number two, the reports, 2607 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,280 presentations? 2608 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:39,600 C 2609 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,070 >> it certainly could. I mean many of these 2610 01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:42,080 » it certainly could. I mean many of these 2611 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,880 pieces, right? housing, early care, and 2612 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,400 you know, I think last year we added 2613 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,880 food and security as part of the council 2614 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,440 vision or security [laughter] as the 2615 01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:54,239 vision. Um, and so I I do think that 2616 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:55,840 this is represented in the current work 2617 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,920 plan. Um, and and certainly could be 2618 01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,600 discussed as part of that overview. 2619 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,830 >> Okay. No, that's that's good. It feels 2620 01:36:01,830 --> 01:36:01,840 » Okay. No, that's that's good. It feels 2621 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,840 like a lot of that can be interwoven 2622 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,560 into other other parts, but um yes. 2623 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,880 Okay. Thank you. I I was going to try to 2624 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,719 Okay, number one. number two. But 2625 01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:13,120 there's so many things where 2626 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,950 >> I'm kind of letting we're going to go 2627 01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:14,960 » I'm kind of letting we're going to go 2628 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,040 organically a little bit. Council member 2629 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:17,600 Popkin. 2630 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,310 >> Oh, I had one. 2631 01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:18,320 » Oh, I had one. 2632 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,550 >> Oh, I'm so sorry. I Yeah, I remember. 2633 01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:20,560 » Oh, I'm so sorry. I Yeah, I remember. 2634 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,430 >> And then just a really small portion of 2635 01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:23,440 » And then just a really small portion of 2636 01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:26,400 our retreat to talk a little bit about 2637 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,400 uh just efficiencies, council 2638 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,880 efficiencies and work efficiencies on 2639 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,600 and how we function. 2640 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,480 Um, you know, there's just a lot of 2641 01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,560 little kind of suggestions and areas 2642 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,320 that I think that we could improve 2643 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,679 administratively to help us, you know, 2644 01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:47,840 respond more efficiently, you know, get 2645 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,239 uh residents answers to questions more 2646 01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:52,239 efficiently. And so, just a small 2647 01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:53,600 portion just to kind of talk about like 2648 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,800 what are those priorities, what does it 2649 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,159 look like, come to an agreement, and 2650 01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:57,440 then make a move on those. 2651 01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,790 >> Okay. 2652 01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:58,800 » Okay. 2653 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,149 >> Yeah. 2654 01:37:00,149 --> 01:37:00,159 » Yeah. 2655 01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,119 And then I'll let you kind of decide if 2656 01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:04,719 that's something because that that'll be 2657 01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:06,639 our conversation, but kind of where it 2658 01:37:06,639 --> 01:37:08,159 where would it embed in the 2659 01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:09,830 >> I can see where that where that also 2660 01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:09,840 » I can see where that where that also 2661 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,159 comes. You know, if we spent some time 2662 01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:13,920 first of all learning about our 2663 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,600 leadership styles and how we work better 2664 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:16,639 with each other and how do we 2665 01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:17,920 communicate with each other and then 2666 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,520 maybe move that into how do we have 2667 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,080 efficient meetings? um you know that 2668 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,920 that kind of piece and see how the civic 2669 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,159 league work um also fits into that 2670 01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,320 because I think the idea of trying it on 2671 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,199 ourselves trying it on yourselves um you 2672 01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:32,800 know might fit into that as well. So 2673 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,119 kind of one segment around that, right? 2674 01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:38,159 Council um operations efficiencies and 2675 01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:40,880 knowing each other. One segment on staff 2676 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,679 capacities um and things like that. 2677 01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:45,590 >> One with some presentations, fire, a 2678 01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:45,600 » One with some presentations, fire, a 2679 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,159 Sundance update and you know and maybe a 2680 01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:49,760 brief council work plan update. You'll 2681 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,280 have all that all the deep dive. We'll 2682 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,040 have it all written so so that it's not 2683 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,119 huge long presentations but we could 2684 01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:56,719 certainly give some short updates as 2685 01:37:56,719 --> 01:37:57,119 well. 2686 01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:59,270 >> Okay, great. Thank you. Now 2687 01:37:59,270 --> 01:37:59,280 » Okay, great. Thank you. Now 2688 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,790 >> sorry. So, like the federal funding 2689 01:38:00,790 --> 01:38:00,800 » sorry. So, like the federal funding 2690 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,119 piece, um, that's something that is part 2691 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:04,560 of the work plan and so we can update 2692 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,159 the work plan and you can have a good 2693 01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:07,840 chunk of that deep dive information 2694 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,199 ahead of time. 2695 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:09,590 >> Yeah. 2696 01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:09,600 » Yeah. 2697 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,750 >> Okay, great. Thank you. Um, Council 2698 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:11,760 » Okay, great. Thank you. Um, Council 2699 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,360 Member Popkin. 2700 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,790 >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um, and thank 2701 01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:14,800 » Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um, and thank 2702 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,159 you, Sandy, and and my fellow council 2703 01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:18,400 members for all the ideas so far. Um, 2704 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,560 you actually just addressed maybe two or 2705 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,000 three of my suggestions, which I would 2706 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,800 say a plus one on like in some ways a 2707 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,280 pre-eread on some of these upformational 2708 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,600 updates. I think would allow us to kind 2709 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,440 of uh fulfill the spirit of Council 2710 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,360 Member Mars's suggestion, which I 2711 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,800 actually fully agree with. I'd love to 2712 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,040 have more space for us to all I I feel 2713 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,840 like that's a a limited commodity is 2714 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,360 space when we can actually all discuss 2715 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,639 freely together. Um, and you know, we 2716 01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:46,560 aren't worried about pushing 11:00 at 2717 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,440 night. Um so uh would would very much 2718 01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:51,520 welcome that and then still appreciate 2719 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,440 theformational items so we can have the 2720 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:55,760 most informed discussion possible. Um so 2721 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,840 that just speaks to kind of more uh 2722 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,520 presentation information or other 2723 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,080 updates as like a council com ahead of 2724 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,679 time where possible. [clears throat] 2725 01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:05,760 Um, plus one on Sundance, though I'd 2726 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,199 take a slightly uh I have a slightly 2727 01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:10,480 different perspective on on the 2728 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:12,080 opportunity of Sundance than uh the 2729 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,840 mayor prom on this and that maybe 2730 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,360 there's some more opportunities that we 2731 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,679 aren't fully uh utilizing. And I think 2732 01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:20,080 having that discussion kind of in real 2733 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,320 time in March would be productive even 2734 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,719 if it's not fully realized by next 2735 01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:27,360 January. This is a 10-year program at 2736 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,199 least or commitment to the region. So 2737 01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:31,440 thinking about how do we grow into this 2738 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:32,800 um and what what we should be looking 2739 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,239 for I would 2740 01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:34,870 >> okay 2741 01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:34,880 » okay 2742 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,709 >> um the uh second thinking about the 2743 01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:38,719 » um the uh second thinking about the 2744 01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:40,480 vision of like what's our kind of vision 2745 01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:46,000 for the airport as a council um and 2746 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,520 uh up plus one um what uh council member 2747 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,199 Prito was suggesting too on like how we 2748 01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:53,520 work together efficiently um I think you 2749 01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,199 actually asked me a question kind of as 2750 01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:57,679 we were joining the new term saying like 2751 01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:00,880 what happens when we get emails and 2752 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,880 do se are seven people responding in 2753 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,520 different ways. Are are we like tag 2754 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,119 teaming this because of open meetings 2755 01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:09,199 laws and and like we can't all be on 2756 01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:10,960 multiple things. So maybe there's a way 2757 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,320 we can um better like say like hey this 2758 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,239 pair works on this issue or this like 2759 01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:18,239 this word and this at large pair will 2760 01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:19,600 respond on most of these issues some 2761 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:20,560 something like that. I don't know what 2762 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,560 the answer is, but um I think that would 2763 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,080 be a great way to like a great time to 2764 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:25,520 try to figure out what's the optimal way 2765 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,920 we can uh collaborate or support each 2766 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,440 other on that so that we're not stepping 2767 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,119 on toes or sending mixed messages. 2768 01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:32,550 >> I'm going to tell you, I've been here 2769 01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:32,560 » I'm going to tell you, I've been here 2770 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,239 since 2019 and I still don't know. 2771 01:40:35,239 --> 01:40:36,159 [laughter] 2772 01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:37,830 >> Has it been a retreat item before? 2773 01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:37,840 » Has it been a retreat item before? 2774 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,469 >> It has never been. So, I I thoroughly 2775 01:40:40,469 --> 01:40:40,479 » It has never been. So, I I thoroughly 2776 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:41,280 [laughter] 2777 01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,560 support that idea. I I want answers. 2778 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,870 >> Excellent. Um I'll also second the 2779 01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:46,880 » Excellent. Um I'll also second the 2780 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,960 regional resilience discussion. um maybe 2781 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,880 beyond just fire mitigation and thinking 2782 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,800 more about um we we get a lot of 2783 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,560 questions about water as well. And I 2784 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:55,920 think just having that kind of open 2785 01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,000 discussion about like hey what how are 2786 01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,840 we with the natural resource situation 2787 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,000 that we're in and the overall kind of 2788 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:03,760 regional climate and what are we facing 2789 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:04,960 and what kind of challenges are we 2790 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,840 prepared for and what's kind of you know 2791 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,480 more of a an ambition in terms of 2792 01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:12,080 preparedness. 2793 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,560 Um, and then the last two things I'll 2794 01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,480 put on the table here. Um, one as an 2795 01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:18,400 activity or exercise potentially given 2796 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,320 what I've heard from my colleagues, um, 2797 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,239 I might suggest that whether it's Sandy 2798 01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:23,679 or the facilitation team look into the 2799 01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:26,560 how now wow exercise which allows uh, 2800 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,080 folks to work together and figure out 2801 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,560 hey what are we trying to do now or what 2802 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,080 do we know how to do now? What are we um 2803 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,400 figuring out how to do but we can do is 2804 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,159 within our capacity and what do we not 2805 01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:40,239 know how to do but really want to do. 2806 01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:41,520 Um, and it's kind of a nice way to 2807 01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,440 bucket different goals, um, or 2808 01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:46,320 priorities. Um, 2809 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,000 and then I think the last thing I just 2810 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,560 really want to offer on the table that I 2811 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,239 didn't see anywhere else is thinking 2812 01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,159 about what our vision is for, you know, 2813 01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:56,480 we've had some discussions in LA urban 2814 01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:58,480 renewal authority and in city council a 2815 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,000 little bit, but what is our vision for 2816 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,040 the first and main area like fully and 2817 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,960 and how do we make that I mean that that 2818 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,440 might be one of the most significant uh 2819 01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:10,080 local development uh efforts that's 2820 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:11,760 happening. And I think having a clear 2821 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,440 understanding of what what are we all 2822 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:17,840 staff council working towards there um 2823 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,600 for clarity for the community. So, 2824 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,470 >> so and that last one I would assume 2825 01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:22,480 » so and that last one I would assume 2826 01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:24,480 that's going to be going on to number 2827 01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:26,000 one where we're looking at our work 2828 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,320 plan. We're looking at our our goals and 2829 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,040 I think you know there it's related to 2830 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:31,760 kind of 2831 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:33,270 >> how I I'm just kind of thinking about 2832 01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:33,280 » how I I'm just kind of thinking about 2833 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,760 how can we embed some of these topics so 2834 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,920 they're not isolated but just kind of 2835 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,679 interwoven in things that we're we're 2836 01:42:39,679 --> 01:42:42,159 covering. So it's not and and how are 2837 01:42:42,159 --> 01:42:43,600 you feeling like you're looking at this 2838 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:44,639 list and 2839 01:42:44,639 --> 01:42:46,390 >> yeah I think I think if we could offer a 2840 01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:46,400 » yeah I think I think if we could offer a 2841 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,480 lot of pre-work for the council I think 2842 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:49,440 that would be helpful. 2843 01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:49,830 >> Okay. 2844 01:42:49,830 --> 01:42:49,840 » Okay. 2845 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,750 >> Um I know I spent a year of my life 2846 01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:51,760 » Um I know I spent a year of my life 2847 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,360 working on the first and main uh 2848 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,119 visioning exercise and the main street 2849 01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:56,719 corridor project and listening to the 2850 01:42:56,719 --> 01:42:58,320 community and so there's such great 2851 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,239 information already out there. Yes. 2852 01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:02,629 >> Um that that that work as a foundation 2853 01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:02,639 » Um that that that work as a foundation 2854 01:43:02,639 --> 01:43:04,800 and stepping stone. And so um the same 2855 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,400 thing with the airport that I found an 2856 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:07,920 old airport business plan the day. I'm 2857 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,119 like these are all the things we're 2858 01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:11,679 talking about. Huh. Okay. Um and so, you 2859 01:43:11,679 --> 01:43:13,600 know, if we can provide some of that 2860 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,400 depth in the packet for council, then 2861 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,719 hopefully we could reduce um you know, 2862 01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:20,239 the presentation side of it and have 2863 01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:21,840 more discussion coming from the 2864 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,960 springboard because where it gets tough 2865 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,400 is when people are brainstorming things 2866 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:25,760 that have already been 2867 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,830 >> vetted and discussed in the community. 2868 01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:27,840 » vetted and discussed in the community. 2869 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,679 So, if if we can provide that as a 2870 01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:31,199 foundation for you to be able to take it 2871 01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:32,320 from there, I think we could 2872 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:33,030 >> that would be very 2873 01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:33,040 » that would be very 2874 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,790 >> reduce the staff presentations and still 2875 01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:34,800 » reduce the staff presentations and still 2876 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,639 honor all of the work already been done. 2877 01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:38,149 >> Honor the work that's already been done. 2878 01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:38,159 » Honor the work that's already been done. 2879 01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:39,920 And then by that time we would be able 2880 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,639 to sit on this, reflect on it and have 2881 01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:44,320 our own discussion where you're just 2882 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,920 kind of getting your popcorn and 2883 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,040 watching it [laughter] 2884 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,600 watching the sparks fly. Um, Council 2885 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,080 Member Colover, 2886 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:53,830 >> I really appreciate what Council Member 2887 01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:53,840 » I really appreciate what Council Member 2888 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,480 Prito said. Um, because yes, the looking 2889 01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,080 at all of the emails, it is very 2890 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,000 confusing who's doing what. So, I really 2891 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,560 applaud that. I also want to add on the 2892 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,199 the federal budget crisis that we're in 2893 01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:07,119 and I don't want to water down the very 2894 01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:08,560 important topics that she brought up, 2895 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:09,679 but I know there's a lot of other 2896 01:44:09,679 --> 01:44:11,920 departments in the city that are waiting 2897 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,840 on funding to come through that have 2898 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,760 been paused. I know Vision Zero is also 2899 01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,320 seeing some of those funding. Um, so I 2900 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,080 don't know if we can have a highlevel 2901 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,199 overview of all of the grants that we're 2902 01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:25,199 waiting on and then maybe we can deep 2903 01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:27,040 dive on some of the ones that we we 2904 01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,719 select that are really important. But I 2905 01:44:28,719 --> 01:44:30,159 think it'd be nice to have a very high 2906 01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:32,960 level of this is what it looks like on a 2907 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,560 on a federal level for all these 2908 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,159 different departments and then deep dive 2909 01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:38,400 into those really important topics. Um 2910 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:39,920 when it comes to Sundance, I would love 2911 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,719 to see like Visit Longmont come and give 2912 01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:44,400 us some information on what they're 2913 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,000 working on just so we can get up to 2914 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,159 speed and we're all rowing together. Um 2915 01:44:48,159 --> 01:44:50,000 just so we're not stepping on their toes 2916 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,159 and we're not um kind of colliding 2917 01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:54,320 together. Um, so it'd be nice to invite 2918 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,320 also some of our boards or outside 2919 01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:57,920 boards to present as well if that's 2920 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,800 possible. Um, and then when it comes to 2921 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,719 uh team building, I've done insights 2922 01:45:02,719 --> 01:45:04,320 discovery. I'm not suggesting that we do 2923 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:05,760 that, but um, it's something really good 2924 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,679 where we can learn um, different 2925 01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:09,119 personalities and how to communicate 2926 01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:11,840 with each other. Thank you. 2927 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,310 >> Okay. Um, thank you for that. And then, 2928 01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:14,320 » Okay. Um, thank you for that. And then, 2929 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,639 you know, adding on and I I couldn't 2930 01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:18,639 remember what I there was something I 2931 01:45:18,639 --> 01:45:21,440 wanted to ask and I could not remember 2932 01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:24,880 what it was and it sparked a memory to 2933 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,679 add LDDDA to the conversation as well. 2934 01:45:27,679 --> 01:45:29,350 >> The the Sundance the Sundance 2935 01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:29,360 » The the Sundance the Sundance 2936 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:29,920 conversation. 2937 01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,629 >> Um, not necessar. Yeah. just in general 2938 01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:32,639 » Um, not necessar. Yeah. just in general 2939 01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:35,360 like really building you know since my 2940 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,080 start on council and and we've try I've 2941 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,119 made efforts I've tried and there there 2942 01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:42,560 seems to be a disconnect between 2943 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,760 business and council what we're moving 2944 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,400 forward and I think it's just that lack 2945 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:52,719 of opportunity to have discussion so it 2946 01:45:52,719 --> 01:45:56,560 you know being able to bring in LDDA um 2947 01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,440 visit long lDA and visit Longmont and 2948 01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:02,639 LEDp to into the conversation and, you 2949 01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:04,560 know, have them 2950 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,159 kind of weigh in on what what they're 2951 01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:08,400 seeing, what their reality is, and 2952 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,800 making sure that we're not, you know, 2953 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,679 unintentionally making, you know, moving 2954 01:46:13,679 --> 01:46:15,600 forward on priorities that that hurt 2955 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:20,080 small business. Um, Council Member, um, 2956 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,440 Marcine, go ahead. 2957 01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:23,669 >> Thank you, Mayor. Just and I, we've kind 2958 01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:23,679 » Thank you, Mayor. Just and I, we've kind 2959 01:46:23,679 --> 01:46:25,360 of discussed it. Just a conceptual 2960 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,080 question for staff and for, you know, 2961 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:29,199 you, Mayor, and others who've been 2962 01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:30,239 through the process. Council member 2963 01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:31,760 Chris, member Chair McCoy, who who've 2964 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,040 kind of because I'm I'm sitting here and 2965 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:34,800 we've got the, you know, the 2023 2966 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,280 council priorities chart here. And all 2967 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,679 of these are still, you know, ECE is 2968 01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,600 still a a crisis for working families in 2969 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,199 our community. And I think any of us 2970 01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:45,679 could sit down and say, you know, what 2971 01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:47,280 are the three issues that you most want 2972 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,679 to talk about or discuss in our retreat? 2973 01:46:49,679 --> 01:46:51,360 And that's and we and we would probably 2974 01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:52,560 come up with a lot of the same ones, but 2975 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,000 we'd all maybe bring something a little 2976 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,679 bit different to the table. So, I guess 2977 01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:58,320 my question is just process-wise, 2978 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,159 conceptually that you're talking about 2979 01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:04,000 that work plan work that occurs. I guess 2980 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,000 if you can just tell me talk to me a 2981 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,199 little bit about how that has occurred 2982 01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:10,719 in the past and how we together can get 2983 01:47:10,719 --> 01:47:13,440 to you know that collaborative 2984 01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,520 conversation around these core issues 2985 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,320 because I think so you you get what I'm 2986 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,480 I'm asking is is how do we how do we go 2987 01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:23,199 about that and what does that work 2988 01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:25,520 ultimately entail to get us to a place 2989 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:26,960 where we can update these things where 2990 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,719 we have an understanding of what are all 2991 01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:30,719 what are the three issues that we all 2992 01:47:30,719 --> 01:47:32,639 nail into. if you can just quickly kind 2993 01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:34,159 of help me understand that a little bit. 2994 01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:35,590 >> Yeah, that's a that's a great question. 2995 01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:35,600 » Yeah, that's a that's a great question. 2996 01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,920 Um, Mayor Huggle Fairing and Council 2997 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:39,199 Member Marcen, if you take a look at 2998 01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:40,800 that chart, at the very base of that is 2999 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,360 core services. And so, part of it is 3000 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,760 rooting everybody in. This is the 90% 3001 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,520 95% of the things that we do every day 3002 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,000 to provide public safety, to provide 3003 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,320 quality of life services and um 3004 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,320 infrastructure to the community. And 3005 01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:55,760 just letting folks know that that's what 3006 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:56,880 it is and these are the things we're 3007 01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,239 facing this next year so that you have 3008 01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:00,000 that in mind in the back of your head. 3009 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,239 Then as you moved up um equity, safety, 3010 01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:04,000 and sustainability. This is kind of how 3011 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,600 we do this work. So it's something just 3012 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:06,880 to kind of keep in mind as you're 3013 01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:10,320 working through um you know your um your 3014 01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,000 planning. And then the three pillars, 3015 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,639 right? Housing for all, the uh early 3016 01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:16,800 childhood care and education and 3017 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,280 transportation. Those are huge topics 3018 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:20,880 and there could be seven billion 3019 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,800 projects that go under each of those. 3020 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,960 And so prior councils have chosen 3021 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,480 specific projects that they've wanted to 3022 01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:28,000 focus on. I would assume this council 3023 01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:29,760 would do the same and have some 3024 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,360 conversation around are these three 3025 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,239 still the right pillars for this council 3026 01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:36,000 and what are the things that you're 3027 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,840 interested in accomplishing during the 3028 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,360 time in which you are a council and how 3029 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,239 does that look um a part of that is also 3030 01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:44,400 the places and amenities uh that the 3031 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,000 reason that's a roof on this little 3032 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,400 graphic is because you know it it is the 3033 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,320 stuff that kind of encompasses right so 3034 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:51,520 when you are talking about 3035 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:52,800 transportation you're talking about 3036 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,080 first and main but you're also talking 3037 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,080 about placemaking and the amenities that 3038 01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,360 are going to come with that and so 3039 01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,040 ensuring that the places that we are 3040 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,600 planning um are in congruence with the 3041 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:03,540 council's priorities. Um and then 3042 01:49:03,540 --> 01:49:04,639 [clears throat] behind that is the 3043 01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:06,400 climate action side. There was a 3044 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,800 realization from past council that we 3045 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,840 aren't the only ones that are going to 3046 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,159 affect the climate but we do have an 3047 01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:13,350 effect on the climate and 3048 01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:14,800 [clears throat] so ensuring that some of 3049 01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,400 the council goals that we have towards 3050 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,960 renewable energy um and sustainability 3051 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,119 are in mind as you are going through the 3052 01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:23,360 planning. So how we have done it in the 3053 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,280 past have varied depending on how the 3054 01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,040 council wants to look at it. But I think 3055 01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:28,800 the first real question is are these 3056 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,040 still the right three pillars for this 3057 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,159 council. If the answer is yes and we 3058 01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:35,440 will show you anyway. Here's all the 3059 01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:37,040 stuff we've done under these so that you 3060 01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,360 can see kind of where we are and in some 3061 01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,360 cases we are mid- project in some of 3062 01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,159 these. Um and so I I believe the council 3063 01:49:44,159 --> 01:49:45,760 still wants us to continue and finish 3064 01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,480 those projects. But now taking a look to 3065 01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:50,239 the next piece understanding this is 3066 01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:51,760 where the core services are. this is 3067 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,000 where the capacity is. Where would this 3068 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,800 council like to focus during your time? 3069 01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,159 And that's going to be critical because 3070 01:49:58,159 --> 01:50:00,239 we can't do everything. So to understand 3071 01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:02,400 what the priority is for this council is 3072 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,000 what we would try to get through through 3073 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,360 facilitation techniques and 3074 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,639 brainstorming. 3075 01:50:06,639 --> 01:50:08,870 >> Yeah. And then what that does is lead us 3076 01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:08,880 » Yeah. And then what that does is lead us 3077 01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,360 into so when we talk about a capacity 3078 01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,800 conversation, it's not just a physical 3079 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,639 capacity to get the work done. It's do 3080 01:50:16,639 --> 01:50:18,480 you have the financial capacity to do 3081 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:20,639 it? Because 3082 01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:23,510 >> your financial resources are always 3083 01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:23,520 » your financial resources are always 3084 01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,679 going to be the guiding princip piece on 3085 01:50:25,679 --> 01:50:27,199 this because 3086 01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:28,790 >> do you have enough money to do all these 3087 01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:28,800 » do you have enough money to do all these 3088 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,320 things? What are the different financing 3089 01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:31,840 buckets that you have to look at? 3090 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,440 Because 3091 01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,719 those two things start driving a lot of 3092 01:50:36,719 --> 01:50:39,440 decisions in terms of where you move 3093 01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:42,880 because the more you dilute the 3094 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:44,639 financial capacity, the less you're 3095 01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:46,880 actually able to do. 3096 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,320 um because you're putting more money 3097 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,239 into multiple things and it makes it 3098 01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:53,119 more difficult to solve the that piece 3099 01:50:53,119 --> 01:50:56,000 of the puzzle. So that's the capacity 3100 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,400 conversation that we'll need to talk 3101 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,639 about. And you know the core services 3102 01:51:00,639 --> 01:51:02,960 portion of this I think um I've done a 3103 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,480 lot of strategic planning where everyone 3104 01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:06,000 is thinking of okay what do we want to 3105 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:07,840 see in the future vision which is great 3106 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,239 but if you don't recognize that a huge 3107 01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:11,840 portion in fact most of the work that 3108 01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,719 the city does is to provide clean water 3109 01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:17,109 >> reliable electricity trash services fire 3110 01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:17,119 » reliable electricity trash services fire 3111 01:51:17,119 --> 01:51:18,560 and police services if you if there's 3112 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,119 not that recognition then then we are 3113 01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,119 stretching the capacity way too thin as 3114 01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:24,719 Harold reminded me when he first started 3115 01:51:24,719 --> 01:51:28,070 here. [laughter] 3116 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:34,790 Okay. Um, very good. Thank you. Um, 3117 01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,040 Mayor Prom McCoy. 3118 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,910 >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I I'm looking at a 3119 01:51:39,910 --> 01:51:39,920 » Thank you, Mayor. Um, I I'm looking at a 3120 01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,239 calendar here and I'm thinking about how 3121 01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:45,760 uh it's it's kind of a shame that uh 3122 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,920 Council Member PTO and and Council 3123 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:52,320 Member Koffers points to the um grants 3124 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,880 and things like that. Uh and this 3125 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,719 conversation that we're talking about 3126 01:51:56,719 --> 01:52:00,239 having uh around um you know our our new 3127 01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:03,360 priorities or potentially new priorities 3128 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,840 uh couldn't have come earlier because 3129 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,159 just literally the week before many of 3130 01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:10,400 us might be going to the National League 3131 01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,960 of Cities conference and wanting to kind 3132 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,960 of make sure that we're getting the 3133 01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:19,360 right message out to uh our um 3134 01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:20,239 representatives [snorts] 3135 01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:23,679 in Washington. uh and the message that 3136 01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:26,800 we want as a as a collective council, 3137 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,239 not not not after the fact. I just it's 3138 01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:33,199 a bummer that uh and there's no changing 3139 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:36,400 it now, but there's just no uh it's a 3140 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,719 shame that we couldn't have had somehow 3141 01:52:38,719 --> 01:52:41,360 conversations about those uh things 3142 01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,360 because those are the things that as we 3143 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,400 move forward and as we go to uh to talk 3144 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,920 to members of uh of Congress and uh and 3145 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,480 also talk to other communities about how 3146 01:52:52,480 --> 01:52:55,840 they're uh handling these challenges 3147 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,520 uh would be seriously beneficial. to the 3148 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:04,000 the overall uh positive and and success 3149 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,440 of of this council. So, uh I don't know 3150 01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:11,040 how to change that, Sandy. I just uh 3151 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,960 think that it's kind of something that 3152 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:16,560 as we proceed maybe there's some way of 3153 01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,280 of seeing how we 3154 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,440 how we can 3155 01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:25,920 get a a a working plan going forward so 3156 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:29,199 that people h are relatively on what we 3157 01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:32,000 think people's priorities will be. 3158 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,750 >> We we could certainly provide the list 3159 01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:33,760 » We we could certainly provide the list 3160 01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,280 of grants that you all were talking 3161 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,679 about um you know the the federal grants 3162 01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:38,960 that we're reliant on or that we're 3163 01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,080 waiting on. We could certainly provide 3164 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:41,760 that well before the retreat before we 3165 01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,119 could provide it for NLC if you would 3166 01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:43,360 drive 3167 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,830 >> and also city's priorities for getting 3168 01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:45,840 » and also city's priorities for getting 3169 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,440 those things forward. 3170 01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:50,229 >> So, and are you um I I do have a 3171 01:53:50,229 --> 01:53:50,239 » So, and are you um I I do have a 3172 01:53:50,239 --> 01:53:52,400 follow-up question. So, are you 3173 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,080 referencing 3174 01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,760 um kind of taking what 3175 01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,119 are what we're getting out of our 3176 01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:01,119 council retreat in this discussion on 3177 01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:04,080 federal funding to be able to take it to 3178 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:08,080 the um National League of Cities. So my 3179 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,760 wondering is if we during our council 3180 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,360 retreat, you know, allotted some time 3181 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,239 for council to update the rest of 3182 01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:21,199 council on um what we went through at 3183 01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:25,840 the um at the NLC conference and then 3184 01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,239 kind of come to a consensus. Okay, this 3185 01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:30,800 is what we want to advocate for. I mean, 3186 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,360 I've hours on the phone with our 3187 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,280 Congress people and, you know, I'm 3188 01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,480 getting to the point where I'm calling 3189 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,800 other state Congress people and, you 3190 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:40,400 know, [laughter] 3191 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,639 just so you know, at least if we can 3192 01:54:42,639 --> 01:54:44,400 come together on a consensus and 3193 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,520 messaging, then, you know, we take what 3194 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,520 we've learned from National League of 3195 01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,320 Cities, what are have some conversation 3196 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,239 around that, come up with what our 3197 01:54:54,239 --> 01:54:56,719 priorities are and how we can advocate 3198 01:54:56,719 --> 01:54:58,800 that, you know, via phone call or email 3199 01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,280 to our Congress. Congress people. 3200 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,470 >> Okay. Um well that and that would be led 3201 01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:04,480 » Okay. Um well that and that would be led 3202 01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,800 by us, not not you guys. Um Council 3203 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:07,760 Member Popkin. 3204 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,189 >> Yeah. Thank you. Just to also piggyback 3205 01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:09,199 » Yeah. Thank you. Just to also piggyback 3206 01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:11,520 on this discussion. So um just speaking 3207 01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,119 from experience as as someone who's led 3208 01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:14,560 delegations of other city council 3209 01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,679 sometimes in DC. That's one of the less 3210 01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:19,360 in from my professional opinion that's 3211 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,040 one of the less effective weeks to 3212 01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,560 actually really do a coordinated 3213 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:23,760 lobbying effort because everyone's 3214 01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,000 there. And so what I'd actually suggest 3215 01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,679 is we have a discussion when we're and 3216 01:55:27,679 --> 01:55:30,400 I've seen a couple nods there. And so 3217 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,719 what I might suggest is I I really do 3218 01:55:32,719 --> 01:55:34,719 appreciate um the point that Mayor Prom 3219 01:55:34,719 --> 01:55:35,920 McCoy is making though. And I'm 3220 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,920 wondering is this a better topic for 3221 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,760 maybe a presession or a study session 3222 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,239 earlier in the year than and maybe a 3223 01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:44,480 follow- on and retreat through NLC so we 3224 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,440 can all go into NLC productively and 3225 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,599 then maybe think about a coordinated 3226 01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:51,760 separate depending on depending on what 3227 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,639 our federal resource agenda might be or 3228 01:55:54,639 --> 01:55:56,960 state then we have a more cohesive 3229 01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,400 strategy and figure out when's the when 3230 01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:00,239 is the right time to have a delegation 3231 01:56:00,239 --> 01:56:03,199 from the city go and do this then it's 3232 01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:04,960 much more intentional and oriented I 3233 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,400 think around the strategic goals that 3234 01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,840 you had in mind and 3235 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,840 maybe maybe it's informed by retreat, 3236 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:13,520 maybe it's uh kind of maybe we're 3237 01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,760 helping inform retreat. 3238 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:16,070 >> Yeah. 3239 01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:16,080 » Yeah. 3240 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,310 >> So, do do we still want to all lot some 3241 01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:18,320 » So, do do we still want to all lot some 3242 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,840 time on our retreat to have this 3243 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:20,560 discussion? 3244 01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,229 >> Well, I think what I'm what I'm trying 3245 01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:22,239 » Well, I think what I'm what I'm trying 3246 01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:24,880 trying to get at is is there does it 3247 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,199 make sense based on what what uh 3248 01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:29,360 resources we have in our crosshairs at 3249 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:30,400 this moment 3250 01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:33,750 >> to do something sooner? If not, then we 3251 01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:33,760 » to do something sooner? If not, then we 3252 01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,840 can maybe do it at retreat or after. But 3253 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:37,440 I think either way, we should have a 3254 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,320 cohesive discussion about how do we best 3255 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,159 advocate for the resources that we need. 3256 01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:43,350 >> Okay. Yeah. And I'm just kind of 3257 01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:43,360 » Okay. Yeah. And I'm just kind of 3258 01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,199 thinking maybe that's something down the 3259 01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:46,880 line. I just want to get what's on the 3260 01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,239 retreat right now. So, 3261 01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:49,510 >> well, and but if it can be on a 3262 01:56:49,510 --> 01:56:49,520 » well, and but if it can be on a 3263 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:50,800 presession or study session before, then 3264 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:51,280 we take 3265 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:52,550 >> And I'm wondering, this is where I'm 3266 01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:52,560 » And I'm wondering, this is where I'm 3267 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,475 going to kick it back to to Harold and 3268 01:56:54,475 --> 01:56:56,000 [clears throat] staff. I mean, we're 3269 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,239 running out of days. [laughter] 3270 01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:00,310 >> I think that's true. um Mayor Hoggo 3271 01:57:00,310 --> 01:57:00,320 » I think that's true. um Mayor Hoggo 3272 01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:01,679 Fairing, but I do wonder how many of 3273 01:57:01,679 --> 01:57:03,679 these could be study sessions as opposed 3274 01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:06,159 to retreat discussion discussions. 3275 01:57:06,159 --> 01:57:09,030 >> Um you know, when when I look at it, I 3276 01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:09,040 » Um you know, when when I look at it, I 3277 01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,040 mean, it seems to me like 3278 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,189 >> um perhaps the fire and and regional 3279 01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:13,199 » um perhaps the fire and and regional 3280 01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:14,719 resilience could be more of like a 3281 01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:17,440 single study session topic or one of two 3282 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:18,800 or something like that. 3283 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,189 >> Um and the same thing with Sundance. um 3284 01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:21,199 » Um and the same thing with Sundance. um 3285 01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:22,639 you know I I understand there may want 3286 01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:24,000 to be some brainstorming and so maybe 3287 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,679 that does lend itself better for the 3288 01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:27,040 retreat but 3289 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:28,470 >> um you know they seem a little bit more 3290 01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:28,480 » um you know they seem a little bit more 3291 01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,880 isolated. It does make sense for you all 3292 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:32,639 to come back from NLC and share your 3293 01:57:32,639 --> 01:57:34,159 learnings. I think that's important and 3294 01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:35,840 that could be part of the retreat. Then 3295 01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:37,280 you determine what your priorities are 3296 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:38,880 and then we take those priorities and 3297 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,719 lobby them. That's that's kind of what I 3298 01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:42,800 have done in the past that seems to work 3299 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,199 and not necessarily even going to DC as 3300 01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:47,040 much as just inviting our legislators 3301 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,199 here. They come they like Longmont. 3302 01:57:49,199 --> 01:57:49,520 Yeah. 3303 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:51,589 >> So when we invite them, uh, they do come 3304 01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:51,599 » So when we invite them, uh, they do come 3305 01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:53,280 and we can speak to them much more 3306 01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:54,880 specifically that way. 3307 01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,629 >> Yeah. 3308 01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:56,639 » Yeah. 3309 01:57:56,639 --> 01:57:58,629 >> I think would that help because I I 3310 01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:58,639 » I think would that help because I I 3311 01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:00,000 would like and I'm kind of trying to 3312 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,199 think, you know, once we throw 3313 01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:03,360 everything out on the table, then we can 3314 01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:04,400 kind of 3315 01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,709 >> pick and choose, okay, what would be 3316 01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:06,719 » pick and choose, okay, what would be 3317 01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:09,599 better for an open retreat conversation 3318 01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:12,560 and what would be more conducive to just 3319 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,280 having it be part of a study session or 3320 01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,040 go ahead. and we can break this up and 3321 01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:18,480 we can get a look at it and what's 3322 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,239 really operationally driven and what 3323 01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:21,920 makes more sense in the study session, 3324 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,480 what's really more policy driven that 3325 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,040 makes more sense in the retreat. And 3326 01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,440 then to Sandy's point, you know, when we 3327 01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,159 look at the Sundance conversation, a 3328 01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:34,480 they're pretty specific in terms of what 3329 01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,000 they want us to talk about, how they 3330 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:37,599 want us to talk about it, and they're 3331 01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:39,760 really driving it. And it may be that 3332 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,920 that may be actually more conducive to a 3333 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,400 study session down the road once they 3334 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,719 get more clarity because 3335 01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:49,910 >> they're still trying to do their event 3336 01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:49,920 » they're still trying to do their event 3337 01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,560 and then bring it forward. 3338 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,430 >> They've been pretty clear with us to say 3339 01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:55,440 » They've been pretty clear with us to say 3340 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,550 >> there's words and I'm looking to Jen if 3341 01:58:58,550 --> 01:58:58,560 » there's words and I'm looking to Jen if 3342 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:00,000 Jyn's around. 3343 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:00,390 >> Oh no. 3344 01:59:00,390 --> 01:59:00,400 » Oh no. 3345 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:01,430 >> I think there's 3346 01:59:01,430 --> 01:59:01,440 » I think there's 3347 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:02,070 >> Oh, there 3348 01:59:02,070 --> 01:59:02,080 » Oh, there 3349 01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,070 >> words that we can use, words that we 3350 01:59:04,070 --> 01:59:04,080 » words that we can use, words that we 3351 01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:05,840 can't use. I mean it's 3352 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:07,030 >> Mhm. 3353 01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:07,040 » Mhm. 3354 01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:07,350 >> Yeah. 3355 01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:07,360 » Yeah. 3356 01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,189 >> a prescription. It's we're really taking 3357 01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:09,199 » a prescription. It's we're really taking 3358 01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:11,679 the lead from them to support them. 3359 01:59:11,679 --> 01:59:12,070 >> Yes. [laughter] 3360 01:59:12,070 --> 01:59:12,080 » Yes. [laughter] 3361 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,790 >> And that may be more conducive 3362 01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:14,800 » And that may be more conducive 3363 01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,950 >> to have maybe a brief presentation on 3364 01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:16,960 » to have maybe a brief presentation on 3365 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,560 here's what we're doing now that we know 3366 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,159 of. 3367 01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:23,350 >> We'll know more June or July and then 3368 01:59:23,350 --> 01:59:23,360 » We'll know more June or July and then 3369 01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,239 that may be more robust conversation. Is 3370 01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:26,800 that a 3371 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,229 >> Yeah, I think that's fair. I just was 3372 01:59:28,229 --> 01:59:28,239 » Yeah, I think that's fair. I just was 3373 01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:30,960 going to say generally Sundance really 3374 01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,239 has to sign off on any use of Sundance 3375 01:59:34,239 --> 01:59:37,440 um in terms of marketing and um events 3376 01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,760 that are surrounding. Um so that's 3377 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,000 really just the the main component, but 3378 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,440 we can certainly provide more 3379 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,400 information at whichever time you'd like 3380 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:50,000 either as part of the um retreat or part 3381 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,679 of a work session. 3382 01:59:51,679 --> 01:59:54,470 >> Okay. No, and I thank you for that. I 3383 01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:54,480 » Okay. No, and I thank you for that. I 3384 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,159 couldn't if I was Harold and owned a 3385 01:59:56,159 --> 01:59:58,239 business say I'm doing this 3386 01:59:58,239 --> 02:00:00,149 >> Sundance 3387 02:00:00,149 --> 02:00:00,159 » Sundance 3388 02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:02,550 >> event without them signing off on it. 3389 02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:02,560 » event without them signing off on it. 3390 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,159 And I think 3391 02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:05,830 >> everyone's waiting on that. I think 3392 02:00:05,830 --> 02:00:05,840 » everyone's waiting on that. I think 3393 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,760 Boulder's really still at the forefront 3394 02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:09,440 of this too. 3395 02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,470 >> Um Council Member McCoy's conversation. 3396 02:00:12,470 --> 02:00:12,480 » Um Council Member McCoy's conversation. 3397 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,440 And I think there's over 10 years 3398 02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:19,360 opportunities, but I think right now is 3399 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,119 it's in its infancy stage and 3400 02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:22,470 >> yes, 3401 02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:22,480 » yes, 3402 02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,350 >> we need to watch them a little bit. But 3403 02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:25,360 » we need to watch them a little bit. But 3404 02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:27,119 I think we'll have more later. I think 3405 02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:28,159 we'll have more later. 3406 02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:29,510 >> Okay. Thank you for pointing that out. I 3407 02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:29,520 » Okay. Thank you for pointing that out. I 3408 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:30,880 just, you know, I want us to be a good 3409 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,280 partner in this and um you know, and I 3410 02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:34,639 know there's a lot of excitement around 3411 02:00:34,639 --> 02:00:37,520 that. So, um I I think, you know, if we 3412 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,719 follow your lead and um I think Jen's 3413 02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:42,639 already, you know, getting the 3414 02:00:42,639 --> 02:00:44,639 information we need and then eventually 3415 02:00:44,639 --> 02:00:47,520 get a an update when the time is right. 3416 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,560 And I accidentally turned off your mic. 3417 02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,560 Go ahead, Council Member Brietto. 3418 02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:55,109 >> Sorry, I I only had the two, but then we 3419 02:00:55,109 --> 02:00:55,119 » Sorry, I I only had the two, but then we 3420 02:00:55,119 --> 02:00:57,199 were talking and something came to mind 3421 02:00:57,199 --> 02:00:58,880 and I don't know necessarily if it's 3422 02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,679 like a framework in which we use or an 3423 02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:04,800 agenda item at the retreat. I think 3424 02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:09,040 you'll tell me right now, Sandy. Um, but 3425 02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:13,203 I couldn't help but to think, um, 3426 02:01:13,203 --> 02:01:14,480 [clears throat] during my campaign, I 3427 02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:17,040 spoke a lot about 3428 02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:19,520 how different systems come together and 3429 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:21,679 how a lot of the time cities have the 3430 02:01:21,679 --> 02:01:24,400 resources they need 3431 02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:26,719 for you to meet the needs of the 3432 02:01:26,719 --> 02:01:30,080 community. It's there's just a lack of 3433 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,280 connection connecting those systems. Um, 3434 02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:34,960 and I know like a lot of nonprofits, 3435 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:36,320 there's a lot of conversations between 3436 02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:37,760 cities and nonprofits and community 3437 02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,000 partners and schools around like how do 3438 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:41,760 we resource share? How do we come 3439 02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:43,199 together? And I think that's something 3440 02:01:43,199 --> 02:01:46,719 that I'm new though, so I don't correct 3441 02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:48,960 me if I'm wrong, that maybe the city's 3442 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:50,880 lacking or a lot of places are lacking 3443 02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,440 because no one has the time or energy to 3444 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,199 put toward that to actually make those 3445 02:01:55,199 --> 02:01:58,639 connections. Um and so and then I also 3446 02:01:58,639 --> 02:02:01,280 want to note like Harold when I was in 3447 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:03,840 my campaign I went to the uh state of 3448 02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:05,920 the city and Harold talked about systems 3449 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,679 and connecting those systems and so I 3450 02:02:07,679 --> 02:02:10,719 was like he speaks my language you know 3451 02:02:10,719 --> 02:02:12,960 and so 3452 02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,280 I don't I don't know how to put that 3453 02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:18,320 into the agenda but I want to make sure 3454 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,880 that that language is there or that 3455 02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,840 framework or maybe it becomes one of the 3456 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,880 priorities for the city is really 3457 02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,840 connecting these systems within the city 3458 02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,560 to meet the community need 3459 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,080 especially since we're in a moment of 3460 02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,920 time where there's potential loss of 3461 02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:39,199 funding etc etc but I don't you you 3462 02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:40,480 would probably know better where we can 3463 02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:41,840 kind of put that in there 3464 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,709 >> thinking 3465 02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:42,719 » thinking 3466 02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:44,390 >> yeah I feel like I've heard that several 3467 02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:44,400 » yeah I feel like I've heard that several 3468 02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,000 times from council members around 3469 02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,239 connecting with the community like you 3470 02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:50,000 know really making sure that we either 3471 02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,920 have events or systems or ways so that 3472 02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,360 we can really connect with the community 3473 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:54,639 whether that's individuals that maybe 3474 02:02:54,639 --> 02:02:56,800 you haven't heard from traditionally or 3475 02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,159 whether that's this you know kind of 3476 02:02:58,159 --> 02:02:59,760 this bigger picture systems thinking 3477 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:01,920 aspect that you're thinking of. So I I 3478 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,199 can see where that would you know 3479 02:03:03,199 --> 02:03:04,880 certainly fulfill many of the things 3480 02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,960 that you have talked about as a group 3481 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,510 >> and that could actually we could 3482 02:03:09,510 --> 02:03:09,520 » and that could actually we could 3483 02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,159 probably incorporate that in the 3484 02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:14,639 capacity conversation and utilizing 3485 02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:17,760 systems thinking to maximize capacity 3486 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,719 both financially and operationally. 3487 02:03:20,719 --> 02:03:22,560 And then how can you take that systems 3488 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,280 thinking concept to then apply it to 3489 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,480 engagement in the in these other pieces? 3490 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,480 Because you're right, I think daily 3491 02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,080 we're okay, we need to do this and six 3492 02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,679 things touch it. How do we connect the 3493 02:03:35,679 --> 02:03:38,800 six things to pull into the one? And I 3494 02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,599 think we could probably incorporate that 3495 02:03:41,599 --> 02:03:45,280 into that capacity conversation because 3496 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:47,360 that's how you gain capacity is by 3497 02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:50,719 utilizing systems thinking to free up 3498 02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:52,880 capacity in different areas. And so I 3499 02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,199 could do that as part of my piece 3500 02:03:55,199 --> 02:03:57,109 >> if that's what council wants. 3501 02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:57,119 » if that's what council wants. 3502 02:03:57,119 --> 02:03:59,430 >> No, I like that. Mayor, here's what I've 3503 02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:59,440 » No, I like that. Mayor, here's what I've 3504 02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:00,960 got kind of as an outline in my head 3505 02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,119 right now. So, I heard 3506 02:04:03,119 --> 02:04:04,950 >> um you know a segment around learning 3507 02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:04,960 » um you know a segment around learning 3508 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:06,400 about each other's styles and 3509 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:07,679 backgrounds in order to be more 3510 02:04:07,679 --> 02:04:09,920 efficient and effective as a board um 3511 02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,920 and and to be able to make sure that 3512 02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,080 this that this council leaves the mark 3513 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,560 that you intend to. Um and so maybe 3514 02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,719 that's the first part of it. And then 3515 02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:21,679 moving into that capacity federal 3516 02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:24,080 funding, what what are we doing now? 3517 02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,400 will provide kind of a deeper background 3518 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,440 on on what has been done so far so that 3519 02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,119 you have that in your packets ahead of 3520 02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:33,040 time and then Harold can talk about that 3521 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,960 capacity, that federal funding piece, 3522 02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:36,480 the grants and kind of see where that 3523 02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:40,080 looks like. Um, and then turn that to 3524 02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:41,840 the conversation around council 3525 02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,840 priorities now that you've heard the 3526 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,840 capacity side of it and you're all, you 3527 02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:47,280 know, ready to work with each other in 3528 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,280 an excellent way. um how do you then 3529 02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,040 determine what this council's priorities 3530 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,719 are going to be and what does that look 3531 02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:56,960 like for 202 um six and and through 2030 3532 02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:00,800 really for this team um and then morph 3533 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:02,320 that into okay now how do we connect 3534 02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,639 with the community on these topics on 3535 02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:06,320 other things like what are the 3536 02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,800 connections that we need to be making um 3537 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,960 if we do those things let's have a 3538 02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:12,800 little info session where council is 3539 02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:14,000 teaching each other what they learned at 3540 02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:14,960 NLC [laughter] 3541 02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:16,149 >> okay yeah 3542 02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:16,159 » okay yeah 3543 02:05:16,159 --> 02:05:17,750 >> and then in that case we would move 3544 02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:17,760 » and then in that case we would move 3545 02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,679 Sundance and the and the resiliency 3546 02:05:19,679 --> 02:05:21,760 conversations to to study sessions if 3547 02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,920 that's all right. Um if that's if that's 3548 02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:25,360 okay with everybody still still talk 3549 02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,520 about it but do it during that piece. Um 3550 02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:29,920 and then the NL the NCL training is part 3551 02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:31,679 of that team building the effectiveness 3552 02:05:31,679 --> 02:05:33,679 of bodies and things like that. So, 3553 02:05:33,679 --> 02:05:34,310 >> okay. 3554 02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:34,320 » okay. 3555 02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:36,470 >> Um, let me just double checking to make 3556 02:05:36,470 --> 02:05:36,480 » Um, let me just double checking to make 3557 02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,280 sure I've got this all 3558 02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:40,709 >> in. And 3559 02:05:40,709 --> 02:05:40,719 » in. And 3560 02:05:40,719 --> 02:05:41,189 >> yeah, 3561 02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:41,199 » yeah, 3562 02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:43,750 >> if I can add one thing that may become a 3563 02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:43,760 » if I can add one thing that may become a 3564 02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,080 topic of conversation 3565 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,880 and reading the Colorado Municipal 3566 02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:51,520 League magazine about the upcoming 3567 02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:55,760 legislation and legislative session is 3568 02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:58,000 in study sessions or some point. We may 3569 02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,440 need some time to talk to you all 3570 02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:01,360 because this could be 3571 02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,270 >> a year where there are a lot of battles 3572 02:06:03,270 --> 02:06:03,280 » a year where there are a lot of battles 3573 02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,119 in terms of home roll. 3574 02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:08,070 >> Um, it's really starting to to show 3575 02:06:08,070 --> 02:06:08,080 » Um, it's really starting to to show 3576 02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:09,920 itself that that's going to be front and 3577 02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:11,599 center 3578 02:06:11,599 --> 02:06:13,669 >> um in terms of legislation that we're 3579 02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:13,679 » um in terms of legislation that we're 3580 02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:17,119 hearing is going to drop. So, we may 3581 02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:20,080 need some space in a study session or 3582 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:23,599 potentially even in a retreat to where 3583 02:06:23,599 --> 02:06:25,679 we have some space to maybe talk about 3584 02:06:25,679 --> 02:06:28,960 that because our guts telling us when it 3585 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:31,360 hits, it's going to hit. And who's the 3586 02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:34,079 CML? You're the CML pol who's the CML 3587 02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:35,760 policy committ. 3588 02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:37,189 >> You're the CML. 3589 02:06:37,189 --> 02:06:37,199 » You're the CML. 3590 02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:37,910 >> It's all on you. 3591 02:06:37,910 --> 02:06:37,920 » It's all on you. 3592 02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:38,709 >> We're in it together. 3593 02:06:38,709 --> 02:06:38,719 » We're in it together. 3594 02:06:38,719 --> 02:06:40,950 >> It's it's just we're we're all starting 3595 02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:40,960 » It's it's just we're we're all starting 3596 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,520 to see it. Um, and cities are getting 3597 02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,360 pretty concerned about what this means. 3598 02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:46,079 So, 3599 02:06:46,079 --> 02:06:48,470 >> if we can kind of hold some space, 3600 02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:48,480 » if we can kind of hold some space, 3601 02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:48,790 >> okay, 3602 02:06:48,790 --> 02:06:48,800 » okay, 3603 02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,149 >> because by the time we get to the 3604 02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:50,159 » because by the time we get to the 3605 02:06:50,159 --> 02:06:51,599 retreat, we're going to start seeing 3606 02:06:51,599 --> 02:06:52,719 what's coming out. 3607 02:06:52,719 --> 02:06:54,229 >> Got it. Probably two weeks we'll be 3608 02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:54,239 » Got it. Probably two weeks we'll be 3609 02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:56,427 starting another. 3610 02:06:56,427 --> 02:06:57,679 [laughter] 3611 02:06:57,679 --> 02:07:00,347 >> Yeah, probably. Well, no, I'm thinking 3612 02:07:00,347 --> 02:07:00,357 » Yeah, probably. Well, no, I'm thinking 3613 02:07:00,357 --> 02:07:01,440 [snorts] two weeks we're going to see 3614 02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:02,079 the first 3615 02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:03,910 >> we can 200 bills dropped. [laughter] 3616 02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:03,920 » we can 200 bills dropped. [laughter] 3617 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:04,480 That's right. 3618 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:06,149 >> Okay, good. I know you do. I know you 3619 02:07:06,149 --> 02:07:06,159 » Okay, good. I know you do. I know you 3620 02:07:06,159 --> 02:07:08,000 do. And pardon, mayor, we would also 3621 02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,159 invite um folks from the LDDA to the 3622 02:07:10,159 --> 02:07:12,159 retreat, visit Lmont and LDP as part of 3623 02:07:12,159 --> 02:07:14,639 that. Um I I know you had mentioned 3624 02:07:14,639 --> 02:07:16,159 involving youth council a little bit 3625 02:07:16,159 --> 02:07:17,360 more. Would you be interested in 3626 02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,040 inviting them on Saturday? 3627 02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,189 >> Oo, maybe we can have a lunch with them. 3628 02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:23,199 » Oo, maybe we can have a lunch with them. 3629 02:07:23,199 --> 02:07:24,709 >> Let's do that. Let's just squeeze it in 3630 02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:24,719 » Let's do that. Let's just squeeze it in 3631 02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:25,760 wherever. 3632 02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,030 >> They're they're interested. That's a 3633 02:07:27,030 --> 02:07:27,040 » They're they're interested. That's a 3634 02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:27,440 good one. 3635 02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:28,390 >> They're interested in being part of the 3636 02:07:28,390 --> 02:07:28,400 » They're interested in being part of the 3637 02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:28,960 conversation. 3638 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,550 >> Oh, wonderful. So, if we could have one 3639 02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:30,560 » Oh, wonderful. So, if we could have one 3640 02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:33,040 of those lunches be a um a round table 3641 02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:34,320 lunch with youth council, 3642 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:35,669 >> probably Saturday since there wouldn't 3643 02:07:35,669 --> 02:07:35,679 » probably Saturday since there wouldn't 3644 02:07:35,679 --> 02:07:36,880 be school. 3645 02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,550 >> That's right. Yes, that is true. 3646 02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:38,560 » That's right. Yes, that is true. 3647 02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:40,000 Although they'd appreciate Friday. 3648 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:41,750 >> I think they would I think they would 3649 02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:41,760 » I think they would I think they would 3650 02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,000 love Friday. Yes. [laughter] So, I will 3651 02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,040 mention 3652 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,870 >> Saturday. Yeah. 3653 02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:46,880 » Saturday. Yeah. 3654 02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:47,669 >> Yeah. 3655 02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:47,679 » Yeah. 3656 02:07:47,679 --> 02:07:50,149 >> So, a seus a segment in your retreat 3657 02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:50,159 » So, a seus a segment in your retreat 3658 02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:51,840 about learning about each other, working 3659 02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:53,280 with each other, spending some time with 3660 02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,119 each other. A segment in your retreat 3661 02:07:55,119 --> 02:07:57,760 about um priority priorities and what 3662 02:07:57,760 --> 02:07:59,440 this looks like for you all. and and 3663 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,679 kind of a level setting on what the uh 3664 02:08:01,679 --> 02:08:03,119 playing field looks like today from 3665 02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:04,880 Harold's position with respect to 3666 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:06,560 capacity and federal funding and you 3667 02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:08,000 know kind of here's the here's the world 3668 02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:10,239 we live in today how do these priorities 3669 02:08:10,239 --> 02:08:12,800 now match for this particular council um 3670 02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:14,800 and then turn that into then the 3671 02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,880 community engagement 3672 02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:18,880 um commu connecting the how do we 3673 02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:20,960 connect community that seem like nice 3674 02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,639 kind of four chunks where we'll I'll 3675 02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:24,159 slide in some of these other pieces 3676 02:08:24,159 --> 02:08:26,390 >> yes yeah no that's that sounds good I'm 3677 02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:26,400 » yes yeah no that's that sounds good I'm 3678 02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,199 going to go ahead and Um, Council Member 3679 02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:30,880 Popkin, you had your mic on. 3680 02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:32,390 >> Yeah. One last thing to add into the 3681 02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:32,400 » Yeah. One last thing to add into the 3682 02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:33,760 systems discussion. I think it relates 3683 02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:35,040 very closely and it builds on something 3684 02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,119 that Mayor Harder and I were talking 3685 02:08:37,119 --> 02:08:39,679 about in the last council on how we 3686 02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:41,760 align our rates with our policy 3687 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,320 objectives. And so I think making sure 3688 02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:45,920 we can have that kind of substantive 3689 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,440 discussion there I think would 3690 02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,119 complement a lot of what council uh 3691 02:08:49,119 --> 02:08:51,040 member priz was suggesting some of the 3692 02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:52,800 conversations Harold you and I have had 3693 02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,800 and building on our our sol our our 3694 02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,040 waste management our electricity rates 3695 02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:02,560 our um transport um particular uh 3696 02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:06,159 airport fees like how how fees and rates 3697 02:09:06,159 --> 02:09:08,239 align with our policy priorities. So, 3698 02:09:08,239 --> 02:09:09,599 just wanted to introduce that in 3699 02:09:09,599 --> 02:09:11,520 whatever way that fuses with 3700 02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:17,270 >> that conversation. 3701 02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:19,040 » Okay, 3702 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,550 >> Council Member Marcy. 3703 02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:20,560 » Council Member Marcy. 3704 02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,390 >> Thank you, Mayor. Very quickly, this has 3705 02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:22,400 » Thank you, Mayor. Very quickly, this has 3706 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:23,599 been a great conversation. I hope you 3707 02:09:23,599 --> 02:09:24,800 have what you need, Sandy. The only the 3708 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,800 only thing I guess I I haven't heard a 3709 02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,079 lot of discussion about and maybe I 3710 02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:30,719 missed it at some point is maybe folded 3711 02:09:30,719 --> 02:09:32,719 into that conversation about how we work 3712 02:09:32,719 --> 02:09:34,800 as individuals and how we work together 3713 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,480 some of the logistics of that cuz I 3714 02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,000 think we've had some discussion up here 3715 02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,639 about preessions about what that all 3716 02:09:40,639 --> 02:09:43,119 looks like about you know how we 3717 02:09:43,119 --> 02:09:45,840 actually logistically navigate that and 3718 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,760 I I think and mayor this is kind of a 3719 02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,159 you question is is you know time in the 3720 02:09:50,159 --> 02:09:52,400 retreat for us to say okay this is how 3721 02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:54,800 we want to kind of use those spaces or 3722 02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,119 give you feedback or however you would 3723 02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:58,239 want to navigate that cuz I was looking 3724 02:09:58,239 --> 02:09:59,599 at my list and that's the only thing I 3725 02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:01,520 think we we didn't hit is like how do we 3726 02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,040 navigate 3727 02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:04,960 presessions work sessions so that we 3728 02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:07,040 have more as council member Pockin 3729 02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,960 mentioned earlier of those opportunities 3730 02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:11,360 to discuss things a little more freely 3731 02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:14,400 work together kind of conversations 3732 02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,149 >> we could certainly fold those into that 3733 02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:16,159 » we could certainly fold those into that 3734 02:10:16,159 --> 02:10:17,360 efficiency and effectiveness 3735 02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,599 conversation there's just keep in mind 3736 02:10:19,599 --> 02:10:21,199 terminology wise there's two kinds of 3737 02:10:21,199 --> 02:10:23,599 precessions um there's the precession s 3738 02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:25,380 that mayor Pek had requested 3739 02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:26,000 [clears throat] 3740 02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,679 which happened regularly and the idea 3741 02:10:27,679 --> 02:10:29,440 was to update each other on boards and 3742 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:31,360 commissions but other business was also 3743 02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,119 conducted and then there's presessions 3744 02:10:33,119 --> 02:10:34,639 that the council directs us to bring 3745 02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:36,880 that is a deeper dive and open free 3746 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,280 conversation about a discussion like 3747 02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,750 >> uh vision zero came as a preession so 3748 02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:41,760 » uh vision zero came as a preession so 3749 02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,599 there are two different pieces housing 3750 02:10:43,599 --> 02:10:44,880 yeah there's there's kind of two 3751 02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:46,480 different ways to look at precession so 3752 02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,560 it might be great to clarify 3753 02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,550 >> yeah [laughter] 3754 02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:50,560 » yeah [laughter] 3755 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:53,030 >> yeah no and then that would give me the 3756 02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:53,040 » yeah no and then that would give me the 3757 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,440 opportunity to kind of throw back out. 3758 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:59,589 >> I, you know, I I liked the spirit of the 3759 02:10:59,589 --> 02:10:59,599 » I, you know, I I liked the spirit of the 3760 02:10:59,599 --> 02:11:02,400 presession where we updated, but then it 3761 02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:05,199 just felt very mechanical and inorganic 3762 02:11:05,199 --> 02:11:07,679 and it it wasn't as helpful as I think 3763 02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:11,360 it could have been. And I'm still trying 3764 02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,480 to fe you know, and maybe this is a good 3765 02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:16,480 opportunity to discuss how do we want 3766 02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,440 those to to look in the future. Um the 3767 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,360 one thing I am not hearing is the 3768 02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:23,119 discussion about boards and commissions 3769 02:11:23,119 --> 02:11:25,360 and also around the liaison. So I'm 3770 02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,119 assuming that would be a separate 3771 02:11:27,119 --> 02:11:28,159 precession. Is that 3772 02:11:28,159 --> 02:11:29,669 >> and so I am that's what I was going to 3773 02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:29,679 » and so I am that's what I was going to 3774 02:11:29,679 --> 02:11:34,000 ask. So the rule 27 piece where the 3775 02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:36,159 board appointments that that could be 3776 02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:40,159 something that is in a study session. It 3777 02:11:40,159 --> 02:11:42,239 it's very black and white. It's 3778 02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:43,920 addressing this particular piece in our 3779 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:48,320 rules of procedure. um our liaison. 3780 02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:52,159 Um I'm almost and I I didn't think did 3781 02:11:52,159 --> 02:11:54,079 we add I don't think we added that to 3782 02:11:54,079 --> 02:11:56,000 our council retreat. 3783 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,149 >> I believe that was previous discussion. 3784 02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:58,159 » I believe that was previous discussion. 3785 02:11:58,159 --> 02:11:59,669 >> That was a previous discussion. 3786 02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:59,679 » That was a previous discussion. 3787 02:11:59,679 --> 02:12:01,589 >> That was previous direction. 3788 02:12:01,589 --> 02:12:01,599 » That was previous direction. 3789 02:12:01,599 --> 02:12:03,270 >> Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to throw 3790 02:12:03,270 --> 02:12:03,280 » Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to throw 3791 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:03,840 that out. 3792 02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:04,950 >> I just wanted to make sure because it's 3793 02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:04,960 » I just wanted to make sure because it's 3794 02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:06,800 currently the the agenda that I would 3795 02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:08,560 bring back to you does not include that 3796 02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:10,239 segment. Would that would be separated, 3797 02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:11,920 but I just wanted to clarify that. 3798 02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,830 >> Okay. I would like to know what what 3799 02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:13,840 » Okay. I would like to know what what 3800 02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,000 other council people feel council 3801 02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:16,719 council people 3802 02:12:16,719 --> 02:12:19,189 >> because it could council members feel 3803 02:12:19,189 --> 02:12:19,199 » because it could council members feel 3804 02:12:19,199 --> 02:12:21,840 feel about yeah if we want 3805 02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,629 >> want to add this on 3806 02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:24,639 » want to add this on 3807 02:12:24,639 --> 02:12:28,069 >> or or add a separate 3808 02:12:28,069 --> 02:12:28,079 » or or add a separate 3809 02:12:28,079 --> 02:12:29,750 >> sorry Don do you need to jump in there 3810 02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:29,760 » sorry Don do you need to jump in there 3811 02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,126 >> I was clarifying the yes 3812 02:12:31,126 --> 02:12:31,136 » I was clarifying the yes 3813 02:12:31,136 --> 02:12:31,280 [snorts and clears throat] 3814 02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:33,990 >> the question is to discuss the your role 3815 02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:34,000 » the question is to discuss the your role 3816 02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,079 as liaison to the boards 3817 02:12:36,079 --> 02:12:36,950 >> that's what I was 3818 02:12:36,950 --> 02:12:36,960 » that's what I was 3819 02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:38,229 >> philosophical discussion 3820 02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:38,239 » philosophical discussion 3821 02:12:38,239 --> 02:12:38,950 >> yes 3822 02:12:38,950 --> 02:12:38,960 » yes 3823 02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:40,229 >> which is different than your rule of 3824 02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:40,239 » which is different than your rule of 3825 02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:41,040 procedure 3826 02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:44,069 >> yes and So that's two different topics. 3827 02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:44,079 » yes and So that's two different topics. 3828 02:12:44,079 --> 02:12:45,990 >> Two different things. Yes. But I do 3829 02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:46,000 » Two different things. Yes. But I do 3830 02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:48,320 believe that at least one suggestion was 3831 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:51,280 to discuss both of those at some point. 3832 02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:52,950 >> So I think council wants to discuss both 3833 02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:52,960 » So I think council wants to discuss both 3834 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,000 of them. Do you want to do it together? 3835 02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:55,360 Do you want to do it through two 3836 02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:56,400 separate things? How do you 3837 02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:59,430 >> the rule rule um changing to the rule 27 3838 02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:59,440 » the rule rule um changing to the rule 27 3839 02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:03,599 is more I I I feel it's good about um 3840 02:13:03,599 --> 02:13:06,079 having that on a separate agenda item 3841 02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:07,990 >> and we have that direction that 3842 02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:08,000 » and we have that direction that 3843 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:09,119 direction. So we're good with that 3844 02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:10,800 today. So the liaison I'm going to throw 3845 02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:14,560 this out to council the liaison and 3846 02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:16,800 um oh how how we proceed with our 3847 02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:20,159 appointments. So how we all as council 3848 02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:24,639 members pick our liaison is that I feel 3849 02:13:24,639 --> 02:13:26,320 like that was one that we wanted to 3850 02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:29,840 discuss as well if I recall correctly. 3851 02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:31,280 Um 3852 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:32,870 >> might as well lightly 3853 02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:32,880 » might as well lightly 3854 02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:35,270 >> lightly lightly okay very very lightly. 3855 02:13:35,270 --> 02:13:35,280 » lightly lightly okay very very lightly. 3856 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,000 Um just a sprinkle uh council member 3857 02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:41,430 Christ. Yeah, [laughter] 3858 02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:42,800 » thank you, mayor, and thank you, 3859 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,639 councelor Pelicanin, for that nice segue 3860 02:13:44,639 --> 02:13:46,800 because I want to make a final plea for 3861 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:50,639 some restorative time. Um, relaxed time 3862 02:13:50,639 --> 02:13:53,040 and time with nature. And if we could 3863 02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,199 maybe use a round table instead of long 3864 02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:59,119 tables, it some about where we were last 3865 02:13:59,119 --> 02:14:02,639 time felt like a typing pool, honestly. 3866 02:14:02,639 --> 02:14:05,280 And and I just, you know, it raises a 3867 02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,040 stress level. You can't be very creative 3868 02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:09,760 in that scenario and would like it to be 3869 02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:11,679 more relaxed for the public too. 3870 02:14:11,679 --> 02:14:12,069 >> Okay. 3871 02:14:12,069 --> 02:14:12,079 » Okay. 3872 02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:14,870 >> Okay. Um I thought you were going to 3873 02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:14,880 » Okay. Um I thought you were going to 3874 02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,520 suggest a ma a massage therapist and a 3875 02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:20,320 chair but [laughter] 3876 02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:22,310 >> and it was really useful. 3877 02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:22,320 » and it was really useful. 3878 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:23,990 >> Sorry. Now now I'm getting a little 3879 02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:24,000 » Sorry. Now now I'm getting a little 3880 02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:26,800 silly here. Um council member um 3881 02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:27,599 Marcine. 3882 02:14:27,599 --> 02:14:28,870 >> Thank you mayor. I wanted to comment 3883 02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:28,880 » Thank you mayor. I wanted to comment 3884 02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:30,480 specifically on your question cuz what 3885 02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:32,960 I'm hearing is 3886 02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:35,360 is kind of a it almost is a natural like 3887 02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:38,800 council workflow section after we talk 3888 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,280 about how we work as individuals how and 3889 02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:42,800 then how do we want to work with each 3890 02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:44,480 other and we logistically hit on 3891 02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:47,520 preessions the liaison role that kind of 3892 02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:49,920 all fits in naturally before we dive 3893 02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:52,880 into you know the policy work 3894 02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:54,719 conversations. I think we have we figure 3895 02:14:54,719 --> 02:14:56,400 out those logistics and then work from 3896 02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:58,400 there rather than like a separate 3897 02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,040 conversation. So I I I do see all that 3898 02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:02,960 kind of fitting into one at the retreat 3899 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:05,920 cuz I I'm viewing this retreat as how do 3900 02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:07,760 we do this work together over the next 3901 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:10,320 two years and not necessarily although 3902 02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,159 like I said we can all list issues we 3903 02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:13,679 want to talk about like if we all I 3904 02:15:13,679 --> 02:15:14,639 think want to talk about airport I want 3905 02:15:14,639 --> 02:15:15,760 to talk about early childhood ed 3906 02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:17,360 everybody knows that but I think we need 3907 02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:19,280 to figure out how we work together both 3908 02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:22,239 functionally and philosophically. 3909 02:15:22,239 --> 02:15:23,360 I like that. 3910 02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:24,709 >> Okay. So, we'll we'll talk about the 3911 02:15:24,709 --> 02:15:24,719 » Okay. So, we'll we'll talk about the 3912 02:15:24,719 --> 02:15:26,480 board liaison, the philosophical 3913 02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:28,079 conversation about board liaison roles 3914 02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:28,880 at the retreat. 3915 02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:30,790 >> At the retreat and then the more 3916 02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:30,800 » At the retreat and then the more 3917 02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:32,400 specific 3918 02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:35,990 >> um council rules and procedures around 3919 02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:36,000 » um council rules and procedures around 3920 02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,000 board appointments you want to do during 3921 02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,719 a public session. Yes. Yes. 3922 02:15:40,719 --> 02:15:41,510 >> Okay. 3923 02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:41,520 » Okay. 3924 02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:43,109 >> That I think they have to because that 3925 02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:43,119 » That I think they have to because that 3926 02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:45,520 will lead to direction and voting which 3927 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:47,599 I think does fit better in 3928 02:15:47,599 --> 02:15:50,550 >> in the meeting. Yeah. The motion said 3929 02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:50,560 » in the meeting. Yeah. The motion said 3930 02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:51,360 February 3rd. 3931 02:15:51,360 --> 02:15:53,510 >> Okay. Yes. The motion was specific. Very 3932 02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:53,520 » Okay. Yes. The motion was specific. Very 3933 02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:54,480 specific. [laughter] 3934 02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:55,990 >> I like that. Yes, we need that. 3935 02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:56,000 » I like that. Yes, we need that. 3936 02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:56,790 >> Specific. 3937 02:15:56,790 --> 02:15:56,800 » Specific. 3938 02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:57,990 >> Yeah. Very good. 3939 02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:58,000 » Yeah. Very good. 3940 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:01,830 >> Okay. So, do you feel like you've have 3941 02:16:01,830 --> 02:16:01,840 » Okay. So, do you feel like you've have 3942 02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:04,639 something well laid out and then the 3943 02:16:04,639 --> 02:16:06,400 rest of council, you're not going to 3944 02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:09,040 leave here today saying she didn't let 3945 02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:11,840 me answer that, get this out. Okay. 3946 02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:13,430 >> So, Mayor Huggle Fairing, I will bring 3947 02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:13,440 » So, Mayor Huggle Fairing, I will bring 3948 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:15,119 back a draft retreat. This is not the 3949 02:16:15,119 --> 02:16:16,960 end of the conversation. So, approve 3950 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:18,239 that and just make sure that I've 3951 02:16:18,239 --> 02:16:20,159 actually hit it. uh last conversation. 3952 02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:21,760 Did you want an outside facilitator or 3953 02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:24,079 did you want an inside facilitator? My 3954 02:16:24,079 --> 02:16:25,360 feelings won't be hurt either way, just 3955 02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:25,679 so 3956 02:16:25,679 --> 02:16:28,069 >> Okay. I mean, I think for some parts it 3957 02:16:28,069 --> 02:16:28,079 » Okay. I mean, I think for some parts it 3958 02:16:28,079 --> 02:16:30,639 might be better to have an outside 3959 02:16:30,639 --> 02:16:32,479 facilitator. I mean, when we're getting 3960 02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:34,160 updates from Harold, we don't need an 3961 02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:36,559 outside person to kind of lead that that 3962 02:16:36,559 --> 02:16:39,679 piece. Um I don't where where do we 3963 02:16:39,679 --> 02:16:42,479 feel? Um you know what? I'm going to 3964 02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:44,800 just kind of work my way start over here 3965 02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:48,639 two and then three and move my way down. 3966 02:16:48,639 --> 02:16:52,000 Um, go ahead, Council Member Popkin. 3967 02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:54,230 >> Super quick. I I tend to lean towards an 3968 02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:54,240 » Super quick. I I tend to lean towards an 3969 02:16:54,240 --> 02:16:56,000 outside facilitator, especially when 3970 02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:57,760 there are just diff like different 3971 02:16:57,760 --> 02:16:59,679 workplace dynamics involved and power 3972 02:16:59,679 --> 02:17:02,319 dynamics involved. Um, because I'd also 3973 02:17:02,319 --> 02:17:05,439 want, frankly, you and Harold and other 3974 02:17:05,439 --> 02:17:07,120 staff and city managers to like 3975 02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:09,280 participate in some of the conversation 3976 02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:11,840 too. Yes, it's council's retreat, but 3977 02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,599 you know, everything that we do is 3978 02:17:13,599 --> 02:17:15,920 depend is like it's it's an ecosystem 3979 02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:18,319 here. And so so that would be my bias 3980 02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:19,040 there. 3981 02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:23,270 >> Okay. Thank you, 3982 02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:23,280 » Okay. Thank you, 3983 02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:24,960 Council Member Prito. 3984 02:17:24,960 --> 02:17:28,070 >> I second. Council member Popkin. 3985 02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:28,080 » I second. Council member Popkin. 3986 02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:31,429 >> Okay. 3987 02:17:31,439 --> 02:17:32,800 » Mayor Prom McCoy. 3988 02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:36,389 >> Thank you, Mayor. I think an outside um 3989 02:17:36,389 --> 02:17:36,399 » Thank you, Mayor. I think an outside um 3990 02:17:36,399 --> 02:17:38,880 person is is always good. Uh although I 3991 02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:40,960 have to commend uh Sandy for always 3992 02:17:40,960 --> 02:17:43,040 being such a champ. So 3993 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,669 >> I'm gonna give a shout out to her. 3994 02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:45,679 » I'm gonna give a shout out to her. 3995 02:17:45,679 --> 02:17:46,479 Thank you. 3996 02:17:46,479 --> 02:17:52,709 >> Okay. Um, Council Member Christ 3997 02:17:52,719 --> 02:17:54,639 outside 3998 02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:58,880 and would and I I will also say that I 3999 02:17:58,880 --> 02:18:01,200 would like you as staff to be there, but 4000 02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:04,399 to also have a relaxed, restorative, and 4001 02:18:04,399 --> 02:18:07,040 creative opportunity, which I don't 4002 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:10,319 think you I don't see you ever getting. 4003 02:18:10,319 --> 02:18:12,080 Maybe it happens, but I don't see it 4004 02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:13,679 ever happening. 4005 02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:16,309 >> Okay. So, you have to be there and get a 4006 02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:16,319 » Okay. So, you have to be there and get a 4007 02:18:16,319 --> 02:18:17,280 massage chair. 4008 02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:18,790 >> Yes. [laughter] 4009 02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:18,800 » Yes. [laughter] 4010 02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:19,190 >> Yeah. 4011 02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:19,200 » Yeah. 4012 02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:21,509 >> Okay. Um, Council Member Marcy, 4013 02:18:21,509 --> 02:18:21,519 » Okay. Um, Council Member Marcy, 4014 02:18:21,519 --> 02:18:22,549 >> thank you, Mayor. I'm going to say 4015 02:18:22,549 --> 02:18:22,559 » thank you, Mayor. I'm going to say 4016 02:18:22,559 --> 02:18:24,240 outside as well, specifically thinking 4017 02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,000 about that leadership portion we talked 4018 02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:27,599 about, I think it's beneficial 4019 02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:29,280 potentially for staff as well to learn 4020 02:18:29,280 --> 02:18:31,280 how we think and operate without having 4021 02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:33,439 to worry about like leading that 4022 02:18:33,439 --> 02:18:35,920 discussion. Um, the less like my whole 4023 02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:37,760 vibe is the less work staff does to 4024 02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:39,439 prepare for this retreat, the happier I 4025 02:18:39,439 --> 02:18:41,200 individually will be. And the more work 4026 02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:43,040 we do to get ready, the the the better 4027 02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:45,200 that is in my mind. Yeah. So that I 4028 02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:45,760 would say out there. 4029 02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:47,429 >> I agree. Yes. Thank you. 4030 02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:47,439 » I agree. Yes. Thank you. 4031 02:18:47,439 --> 02:18:47,750 >> Okay. 4032 02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:47,760 » Okay. 4033 02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:50,629 >> Um Council Member Kulkuffer. 4034 02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:50,639 » Um Council Member Kulkuffer. 4035 02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:52,070 >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm not going to 4036 02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:52,080 » Thank you, Mayor. I'm not going to 4037 02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:53,760 change what everybody else said. I think 4038 02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:55,519 that's a good idea. External. Um I do 4039 02:18:55,519 --> 02:18:56,960 have a massage chair, so if you want me 4040 02:18:56,960 --> 02:18:58,000 to bring it, 4041 02:18:58,000 --> 02:18:59,910 >> I can just load it in the back of my car 4042 02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:59,920 » I can just load it in the back of my car 4043 02:18:59,920 --> 02:19:02,080 and that we can borrow it for the the 4044 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:02,719 couple days. 4045 02:19:02,719 --> 02:19:03,669 >> Yes, [laughter] please. 4046 02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:03,679 » Yes, [laughter] please. 4047 02:19:03,679 --> 02:19:05,270 >> But I think it'd be good for you all to 4048 02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:05,280 » But I think it'd be good for you all to 4049 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:07,509 >> my lady. Sorry to make everybody 4050 02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:07,519 » my lady. Sorry to make everybody 4051 02:19:07,519 --> 02:19:09,120 excited. I would like you all to 4052 02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,519 participate in a way that is uh easier 4053 02:19:11,519 --> 02:19:13,840 for you to participate. 4054 02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:14,150 >> Okay. 4055 02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:14,160 » Okay. 4056 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:16,389 >> I I just mentioned to Sandy one one 4057 02:19:16,389 --> 02:19:16,399 » I I just mentioned to Sandy one one 4058 02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:18,559 person I may talk to just because I've 4059 02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:22,559 been on the fac the he facilitated the 4060 02:19:22,559 --> 02:19:26,479 RTD accountability committee. Um and 4061 02:19:26,479 --> 02:19:29,200 just going through that conversation. He 4062 02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:31,280 may be somebody I talked to because that 4063 02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:37,280 was as delicate and as controversial as 4064 02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:40,000 anything I've ever been in. Surprise. 4065 02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:43,359 And he he did a really good job of 4066 02:19:43,359 --> 02:19:45,280 keeping us on task and keeping us 4067 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:48,479 focused. And so if it's okay that may be 4068 02:19:48,479 --> 02:19:52,000 somebody I reach out to just to see. Um 4069 02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:54,080 I was 4070 02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:55,840 it was astonishing we got through what 4071 02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:56,960 we got through 4072 02:19:56,960 --> 02:19:58,550 >> and the time frame we got through it. 4073 02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:58,560 » and the time frame we got through it. 4074 02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:02,630 >> Very good. Okay. I trust you. Thank you. 4075 02:20:02,630 --> 02:20:02,640 » Very good. Okay. I trust you. Thank you. 4076 02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:05,702 >> Um yeah. No, the council has spoken. So 4077 02:20:05,702 --> 02:20:05,712 » Um yeah. No, the council has spoken. So 4078 02:20:05,712 --> 02:20:06,479 [laughter] 4079 02:20:06,479 --> 02:20:12,070 thank you everyone. Uh thank you. 4080 02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:17,120 » Okay. So we are now at final call. 4081 02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:20,560 Public invited to be heard. 4082 02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:22,160 Is there anyone in the audience who 4083 02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:24,240 wishes to speak? 4084 02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,230 >> Come on down. [laughter] 4085 02:20:26,230 --> 02:20:26,240 » Come on down. [laughter] 4086 02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:28,309 >> I apologize. I didn't quite catch all of 4087 02:20:28,309 --> 02:20:28,319 » I apologize. I didn't quite catch all of 4088 02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:30,000 Harold's comments, but I just wanted to 4089 02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,880 share that in my experience, the EQ 4090 02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:35,760 analysis, it's a personal analysis that 4091 02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:37,359 there's a higher correlation to your 4092 02:20:37,359 --> 02:20:38,160 emotional 4093 02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:39,910 >> Can you raise your mic? Yes. And we'll 4094 02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:39,920 » Can you raise your mic? Yes. And we'll 4095 02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:42,000 go ahead and remind me your name again. 4096 02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,150 >> Paul St. Sundance Drive. 4097 02:20:44,150 --> 02:20:44,160 » Paul St. Sundance Drive. 4098 02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:46,070 >> So there's there's a higher correlation 4099 02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:46,080 » So there's there's a higher correlation 4100 02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:48,240 to your emotional quotient than your 4101 02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,479 intellectual quotient. So an EQ analysis 4102 02:20:50,479 --> 02:20:53,600 as opposed to a IQ analysis is a quite 4103 02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:54,880 you probably some of you have done it 4104 02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:57,040 I'm sure it's quite revealing exercise 4105 02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,280 and you can do simple prep ahead of time 4106 02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:00,399 doesn't take a lot of work but the 4107 02:21:00,399 --> 02:21:02,560 results are have a good correlation to 4108 02:21:02,560 --> 02:21:03,840 the real world and you can share them 4109 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:05,040 with each other and the other one is 4110 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:06,560 something called the disc analysis which 4111 02:21:06,560 --> 02:21:07,920 is a slightly more in-depth version you 4112 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,080 may come across I found both of those to 4113 02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:11,760 be pretty proficient in that 4114 02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:13,670 >> and then balancing my time my earlier 4115 02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:13,680 » and then balancing my time my earlier 4116 02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:15,200 point was on the profitability of the 4117 02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:17,359 golf course what I wanted to say was it 4118 02:21:17,359 --> 02:21:19,520 feels to me that the incentives on the 4119 02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:20,960 management are over aligned to 4120 02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:23,359 profitability and maybe a dimension of 4121 02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:25,359 customer service or something like that 4122 02:21:25,359 --> 02:21:27,840 or quality of service would balance that 4123 02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:29,359 if that's behind the scenes what's 4124 02:21:29,359 --> 02:21:31,520 driving some of this uh uh perceived 4125 02:21:31,520 --> 02:21:34,000 cheapness on my part. Thank you. And who 4126 02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:35,520 who do I give the exhibits to? I'd like 4127 02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:38,000 you to see the uh like to see the 4128 02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:39,190 >> Yeah. Oh, 4129 02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:39,200 » Yeah. Oh, 4130 02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:41,510 >> that's the that's the ball dumping. 4131 02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:41,520 » that's the that's the ball dumping. 4132 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:43,359 That's the new ones installed at Twin 4133 02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:45,680 Peaks, but they're removed at Ute. And 4134 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:48,160 that's the email correspondence. And uh 4135 02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:49,760 Jeff Friezner said he's going to call me 4136 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:51,120 tomorrow anyway, so you won't have to 4137 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:51,840 take any action. 4138 02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:53,510 >> I was um emailing Jeff. 4139 02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:53,520 » I was um emailing Jeff. 4140 02:21:53,520 --> 02:21:55,590 >> Yeah, he he caught me outside. 4141 02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:55,600 » Yeah, he he caught me outside. 4142 02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:57,830 >> Great. Thank you very much. Good. I'm 4143 02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:57,840 » Great. Thank you very much. Good. I'm 4144 02:21:57,840 --> 02:22:01,439 glad. Okay. Anyone else? Come on down. 4145 02:22:01,439 --> 02:22:04,389 >> Greetings. Hi. New member. 4146 02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:04,399 » Greetings. Hi. New member. 4147 02:22:04,399 --> 02:22:04,870 >> Yeah. 4148 02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:04,880 » Yeah. 4149 02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,349 >> Love it. 4150 02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:05,359 » Love it. 4151 02:22:05,359 --> 02:22:06,550 >> So, who are you? 4152 02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:06,560 » So, who are you? 4153 02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:09,110 >> Uh Paul Tiger. I live in Longmont. Uh 4154 02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:09,120 » Uh Paul Tiger. I live in Longmont. Uh 4155 02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:11,920 so, um I'm coming to remind you again 4156 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:15,040 about what's going on in the dark hole. 4157 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:17,840 That is the front entrance. I I have 4158 02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:20,000 engaged other people here. Um I 4159 02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:21,439 understand maybe there's some work 4160 02:22:21,439 --> 02:22:24,319 orders. Uh but you know, they could be 4161 02:22:24,319 --> 02:22:26,720 shoved aside and rearranged because the 4162 02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:28,080 lighting is not that important. It's 4163 02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:31,200 gone on for 20 years. I do fall here. I 4164 02:22:31,200 --> 02:22:33,840 fall a lot now. I'll fall out there and 4165 02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:36,399 sue you. I don't want to do that. Please 4166 02:22:36,399 --> 02:22:39,280 um uh fix up the lighting. Not your But 4167 02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:41,439 but you run the show, right? Okay. 4168 02:22:41,439 --> 02:22:43,439 Lighting outside. Thank you so much. 4169 02:22:43,439 --> 02:22:45,190 >> Great. Thank you. 4170 02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:45,200 » Great. Thank you. 4171 02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:48,880 Um, okay. So, we are now on to Oh, do 4172 02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:50,880 come on down. 4173 02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:53,600 Is there anyone else who wants to speak? 4174 02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:57,520 Okay. So, Lance, come on down. Who are 4175 02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:58,160 you? 4176 02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:01,190 >> Lance Whitaker, 1750 Collier Street. I'd 4177 02:23:01,190 --> 02:23:01,200 » Lance Whitaker, 1750 Collier Street. I'd 4178 02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:02,960 just like to remind you really quickly 4179 02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:04,319 that you guys are going to be talking 4180 02:23:04,319 --> 02:23:07,680 about the Sundance. And uh don't forget 4181 02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:09,920 that we're having a major traffic 4182 02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:14,479 problem over on Ken Pratt and Hover. Um, 4183 02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:17,040 while it's a great project, I would love 4184 02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:20,080 to see it postponed for a couple months 4185 02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:23,280 after Sundance, but that's probably not 4186 02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:26,319 going to be able to happen. But anyhow, 4187 02:23:26,319 --> 02:23:28,479 my concerns are about traffic problems 4188 02:23:28,479 --> 02:23:30,000 that we're going to have and hopefully 4189 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:32,399 we can put a good face forward on that. 4190 02:23:32,399 --> 02:23:32,880 Thank you. 4191 02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:34,710 >> Very good. Thank you. 4192 02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:34,720 » Very good. Thank you. 4193 02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:37,349 >> Okay, now we're on to mayor and council 4194 02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:37,359 » Okay, now we're on to mayor and council 4195 02:23:37,359 --> 02:23:40,080 comments. 4196 02:23:40,080 --> 02:23:44,479 Any comments? Okay. Okay. Um, 4197 02:23:44,479 --> 02:23:47,920 Council Member Kuffer, 4198 02:23:47,920 --> 02:23:49,990 >> I'd like to thank everybody on this uh 4199 02:23:49,990 --> 02:23:50,000 » I'd like to thank everybody on this uh 4200 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:52,160 board. Thank you, Mayor. Um, this has 4201 02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,000 been a true ride for me and I thank 4202 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:55,680 everybody who supported me through this 4203 02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:59,200 journey. I am humbly proud to be here 4204 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,200 and I can't wait to serve next to each 4205 02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,120 and every one of you. Um, and I can't 4206 02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,040 wait to serve our constituents. So, 4207 02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:06,560 thank you for having me. I'm really 4208 02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:09,359 excited to be here. 4209 02:24:09,359 --> 02:24:12,150 >> Okay, very good. Thank you for that. Um, 4210 02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:12,160 » Okay, very good. Thank you for that. Um, 4211 02:24:12,160 --> 02:24:13,520 you know, I just I want to thank you 4212 02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:16,560 all. I mean, I was thinking about and 4213 02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:18,560 kind of processing how did I want to go 4214 02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:21,600 around our retreat or even our board 4215 02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:23,840 appointments and just kind of thinking 4216 02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,560 about and you know, I I appreciate and 4217 02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:29,439 um really value everybody's um 4218 02:24:29,439 --> 02:24:32,000 professionalism and and just really 4219 02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:33,280 coming forward with the the best 4220 02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:35,120 intentions and that is, you know, our 4221 02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:36,960 serving our city. So, thank you all so 4222 02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:40,160 much. I appreciate you. Um Oh, who's 4223 02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,560 number seven? Oh, Council Member Marcy. 4224 02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:43,590 >> Thank you, Mayor. I'll be very quick, 4225 02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:43,600 » Thank you, Mayor. I'll be very quick, 4226 02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:45,520 and this is more for public edification. 4227 02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:47,359 Uh, mayor knows this, staff is familiar 4228 02:24:47,359 --> 02:24:49,439 with this. Just in the event that I 4229 02:24:49,439 --> 02:24:50,960 happen to miss a council meeting 4230 02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:53,280 suddenly, either or council or an LHA 4231 02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:54,560 meeting coming up, just for public 4232 02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:56,960 edification. Um, I'm kind of on baby 4233 02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:58,640 alert at the moment, we're expecting our 4234 02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:01,040 our third kiddo, a daughter kind of any 4235 02:25:01,040 --> 02:25:03,520 any day now. So, we're just in the event 4236 02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:05,439 I don't show up one night that I just 4237 02:25:05,439 --> 02:25:07,120 wanted the public and everybody to be 4238 02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:08,479 aware, that's why. It's not that I'm 4239 02:25:08,479 --> 02:25:10,319 ditching. I, you know, just wanted to 4240 02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:12,240 make sure everybody was aware. So, thank 4241 02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:12,800 you, K. 4242 02:25:12,800 --> 02:25:14,870 >> Great. Thank you for that. Um, Council 4243 02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:14,880 » Great. Thank you for that. Um, Council 4244 02:25:14,880 --> 02:25:16,640 Member Prietto, 4245 02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:19,510 >> just a comment to, uh, Councelor Koffer. 4246 02:25:19,510 --> 02:25:19,520 » just a comment to, uh, Councelor Koffer. 4247 02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:22,560 We're so happy to have you on council. I 4248 02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,680 think, um, 4249 02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:29,590 >> you bring such assets to the team um, 4250 02:25:29,590 --> 02:25:29,600 » you bring such assets to the team um, 4251 02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,760 and your expertise and transportation 4252 02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:34,080 and beyond. And, and it's something that 4253 02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:36,720 we really need. And so we're really 4254 02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:38,479 happy to have you on council and we look 4255 02:25:38,479 --> 02:25:41,280 forward to working with you. 4256 02:25:41,280 --> 02:25:44,230 >> Yes, ditto. Thank you. Um, council 4257 02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:44,240 » Yes, ditto. Thank you. Um, council 4258 02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:46,000 member Popkin. 4259 02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:47,349 >> Yeah, I don't have nearly as exciting 4260 02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:47,359 » Yeah, I don't have nearly as exciting 4261 02:25:47,359 --> 02:25:49,200 update as council member Mars, but um 4262 02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:50,900 there will be a couple meeting 4263 02:25:50,900 --> 02:25:51,760 [laughter] there will be a couple 4264 02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:54,240 meetings uh this year that I know about 4265 02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:57,520 that I'll have uh I'll ask for remote 4266 02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:00,070 >> work uh work uh for attendance 4267 02:26:00,070 --> 02:26:00,080 » work uh work uh for attendance 4268 02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:01,600 privileges. So I'll bring that forward 4269 02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,439 in a future meeting. I won't make a 4270 02:26:03,439 --> 02:26:04,640 motion now, but I just want to give you 4271 02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:06,160 guys a heads up on that. 4272 02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:06,389 >> Great. 4273 02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:06,399 » Great. 4274 02:26:06,399 --> 02:26:07,750 >> Um, and I also just really appreciate 4275 02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:07,760 » Um, and I also just really appreciate 4276 02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:09,359 Council Member Chris's suggestion to 4277 02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:11,040 consider alternative locations for our 4278 02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,520 retreat. By the way, I happen to have a 4279 02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:15,760 soft spot in my heart for Sundance. Uh, 4280 02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:18,479 sorry, Sandstone Ranch. Um, Sandstone 4281 02:26:18,479 --> 02:26:19,600 Ranch. We're not rebranding it. Don't 4282 02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:20,640 worry, we don't have the permission to 4283 02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:22,960 do that. Um, [laughter] and so I I 4284 02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:24,080 appreciate just thinking out of the box 4285 02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:26,640 on on where we gather together, too. So, 4286 02:26:26,640 --> 02:26:27,200 thank you. 4287 02:26:27,200 --> 02:26:30,070 >> Yes. Thank you for that. Okay. Uh, now 4288 02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:30,080 » Yes. Thank you for that. Okay. Uh, now 4289 02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:31,920 on to 4290 02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:35,910 city manager remarks. 4291 02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:37,760 » No comments. Mayor, councel. 4292 02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:40,710 >> Nice. Yes. And city attorney remarks. 4293 02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:40,720 » Nice. Yes. And city attorney remarks. 4294 02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:41,830 >> No comments, mayor. 4295 02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:41,840 » No comments, mayor. 4296 02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:43,270 >> Okay. So, may I have a motion to 4297 02:26:43,270 --> 02:26:43,280 » Okay. So, may I have a motion to 4298 02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:44,720 adjurnn? 4299 02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:46,630 >> Okay. Do we have a second? 4300 02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:46,640 » Okay. Do we have a second? 4301 02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:49,349 >> Okay. So, I have a motion um on the 4302 02:26:49,349 --> 02:26:49,359 » Okay. So, I have a motion um on the 4303 02:26:49,359 --> 02:26:51,040 table. 4304 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:54,150 >> Um I'm waiting for it to Yeah. Okay. Um 4305 02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:54,160 » Um I'm waiting for it to Yeah. Okay. Um 4306 02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:55,920 any discussion? 4307 02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:58,630 >> Okay. All those in favor? 4308 02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:58,640 » Okay. All those in favor? 4309 02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:02,000 I okay opposed. Okay. So we are 4310 02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:05,000 adjourned.