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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  good morning and

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welcome to the regular meeting

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of the board of water and power

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commissioners.  Today is tuesday

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january 13th, 2026.  This

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proceeding is being broadcast on

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channel 35.  Exact broadcast

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times can be found by contacting

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channel 35.  Board of water and

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power commissioners please say

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present for roll call.

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commissioner katz?

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» pres. Nurit katz:  present.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  commissioner marks?

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» allan t. Marks:  present.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  commissioner pinder?

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» com. Wilma pinder:  present.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  commissioner tran?

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» benny b. Tran:  present.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  four board members.

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a quorum is present.

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commissioner pinder?

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

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good morning to those who are

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here before us today.  I am your

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presiding officer for today.

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and I have to say, if you're a

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football person, I have had more

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notes, more -- wire for sound --

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I wish I was, to get us through

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this first meeting of the year.

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because it's a new position for

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me sitting here today, and I

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have said to the commission

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secretary, who you have known

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for a longer time than myself,

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to, please, call in any plays

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from the side to -- she does not

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have to jump up to hand me a

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note, she can just say,

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commissioner look at item number

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so and so, and that's the way

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today.  So, I want you to bear

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with me in that respect.  Again

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for those of you that follow

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won't be too many fumbles, or if

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there are, we can recover the

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ball.  And I say that because I

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game, former usc quarter back --

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somebody tell me his name, kay

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recovery from being down so long

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trojan and I'm a trojan I'm

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spirit here today.

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so, anyway just bare with me and

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have humor as we go through

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this.  At this point I'm going

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to ask -- by the way, you will

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faces that haven't reached -- so

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we'll say retired are no longer

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starting with my left, then

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follow to my right then after

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commissioner katz, after those

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who have spoken I'm going to ask

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I say new commissioners, let's

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I don't know them very well

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myself and as you know anything

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it's on record and all of that,

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so it's more torturous than you

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know even trying to get to know

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your commissioners, and, so,

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them today, certainly, than

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previously.  So starting to my

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left commissioner benny tran,

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would you please share with our

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audience which is both live and

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here, anything you care to say?

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» benny b. Tran:  thank you

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madam commissioner, and madam

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intern chair.  My name is benny

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tran, I have worked in many

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sustainability sector with the

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climate initiative also in

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public health and I had the

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pleasure of moving to los

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angeles.  Never having been here

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before to start the los angeles

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football club and be a major

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savings by design program and

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also the ev changing program.

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and ladwp was most recently,

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if we continue to be that, was

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that were our main partners at

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los angeles football club it's

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been a great journey and great

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ride.  I was also recently a

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board commissioner for parks and

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recs, sorry -- recs and parks,

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symbologies  apologies -- what

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you do here supporting mayor

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bass and for citizens of los

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angeles incredible work a lot of

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work very unique    very

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important and to be one of the

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innovative utilities nonetheless

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public utility and I look

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forward to working with everyone

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and also serve the citizens of

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this great city of los angeles.

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thank you very much.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

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commissioner alan marks?

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pinder, thank you very much.

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and also thank you for the kind

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welcome, I was confirmed and

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joined the commission, this is

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my first meeting, but I joined

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in the middle of december and

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since then it's been like

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drinking from a firehose with

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all of the information I'm al ax

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marks I'm a lawyer have worked

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in energy and infrastructure in

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the private sector for 35 years

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this is my first public role and

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commissioner katz, your

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experience has been vital, and I

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will say for both of you thank

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you for being so welcoming and

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helping with this process.  And

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commissioner tran, I look

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forward to working with you too.

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we're new kids on the block.

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and I know janisse quiñones, the

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ceo, is not here today but she

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department have also been

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complexity of this publicly

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different about being at a

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the city of los angeles not

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private shareholders we have

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talented and dedicated workforce

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of nearly 12,000 employees at

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dwp and for me to have

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opportunity to give back to the

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community where my grandparents

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prior commissioners of most

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recently president richard katz,

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institution is really a

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privilege and honor.  So, I

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appreciate mayor bas and the

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city council for their trust I

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look forward to earping it and I

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speaking on behalf as well as

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management and the employees you

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of water and power take very

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seriously the goal and I look

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forward to furthering the goals

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of keeping water and power in

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the city of los angeles

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reliable, affordable, safe, and

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clean.  Thank you very much.

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» pres. Nurit katz:  thank you.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  will you

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absolutely I will say a word of

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welcome to both of our new

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commissioners I think

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commissioner pinder and I are

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both delighted by your

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appointments the wealth of

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expertise that you both bringing

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to the dais and oversight of the

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utility as you heard from

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commissioner marks and

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commissioner tran they both have

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finance all extremely relevant

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future and the ambitious goals

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of the city of los angeles,

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move forward and continue to

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improve the work of this

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utility, and I certainly echo

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your comments in terms of being

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honored to serve in such an

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amazing organization.  We have

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so much talent and expertise in

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our staff and, you know,

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especially, I know later today

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we're going to hear about storm

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preparations and actions and I

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especially am grateful for all

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of our field staff who are out

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there, rain or shine, or wind,

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or, you know, we don't get much

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angeles, but really out there in

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difficult conditions.  So, thank

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you commissioner pinder, and

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welcome commissioners marks and

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

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point for general public

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  thank you

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commissioner pinder to the

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people providing public comment

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please state which of the agenda

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items you would like to speak

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to.  You will have two minutes

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per item up to five minutes

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total if you are speaking on a

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specific item stay on topic

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forfeited.  If you are only

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may speak to any of the items

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and anything else within ladwp's

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subject matter jurisdiction.  A

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timer will sound when your time

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allotment has expired.  The

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first speaker will be aleta

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banda, followed by jeer

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gerardo.

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» speaker:  good morning I know

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I only have two minutes and I

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want to be fast, kind of nervous

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the reason I'm here today is

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because I have a problem with my

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bill it's been for the past

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three years I have been trying

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to get in touch with whoever can

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help me with this but every time

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I try I sends all the paper

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requests but never get an answer

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back so they transfer me from

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one person to another and I

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really need on get an answer on

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this that's the many reason I'm

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here today.  And, well, this's

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basically why I'm here today.  I

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really need help on this.  And

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it's been more than three years.

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and they said that because I

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accept the charges, but the only

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reason I accept the charges is

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because I used to have a

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business so they went over and

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cut the water at my business and

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it's something that they

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transfer from somebody else.  So

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how do I -- I wasn't able to say

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no, because if I say no, I won't

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be able to keep my business

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running.  So that's the only

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reason I accept the charges, but

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until today, they are just still

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avoiding me.  And I think that's

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not fair at all.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  would you

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state the amount on that bill?

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» speaker:  of course.  I have

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the bill with me, and I already

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paid half of that.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  it's okay.

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» speaker:  I already paid half.

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it was this amount.  $103,000

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447.  And I don't think this's

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fair at all.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

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I seen it when I stepped into

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the audience to speak to you.  I

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thank you for bring thatting

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that matter before us.

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» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  we have

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a representative from customer

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relations office who can assist

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meet with the customer right now

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then provide a report to the

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board on the situation what we

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might be able to help with.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

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so much.

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» speaker:  I appreciate it.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  they are

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going to address that with you

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today while you're here.

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» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  we'll

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meet with you madam.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

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for bringing that to our

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attention.  Thank you everyone.

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before we go I want to say

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something about this agenda

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because I have skipped ahead for

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item b it was to be election of

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officers so that we had

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permanent president however I'm

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going to move that election

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since I'm enjoying this so much

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I'm going to move that election

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to the end of our agenda so if

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there is someone who is waiting

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for that particular spot I have

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now moved it to the end of the

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agenda because we might get into

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a 50 fight and save our energy

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to the end of the meeting item b

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look of officers is now moved to

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the end of the agenda.  Thank

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you.  So let us continue.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  the next speaker will

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be gerardo  ledesma followed by

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ernesto macias.

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» speaker:  good morning

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commissioners I'm going to talk

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about item 17 my name is

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gerardo, owner of tree service

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kings thank you for the

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opportunity to continue to serve

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the city of la.  Tree service

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kings was born and raised here

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in los angeles in 2006 we

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started by servicing homeowners

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and commercial properties.  Then

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our utility company.  This is

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our backyard.  We are constantly

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meeting and exceeding our

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expectation -- our performance

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expectations, services in both

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areas of the metro and valley we

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can respond quickly and be more

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efficient we take pride in

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reduces outages caused by

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vegetation this is not just a

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contract to us this is our city,

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employees, and our families.

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and our crews show up every day

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in difficult conditions, heat,

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wind, rain, or in emergencies

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because we end how critical this

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work is to the safety and to the

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stability of our city.  Over

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these five years, we have earned

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the trust of ladwp's field team

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and leadership through constant

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performance, safety, and being

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the ability.  Respectfully asked

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to consider awarding tree

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service kings full base so we

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can continue doing what we have

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been doing successfully for five

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years protecting the city

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prevent says outages and serving

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los angeles with pride.  Thank

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you.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  so was

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this a situation -- sir, was

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this a situation where you

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simply did not get the bid?

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» speaker:  the bid is divided

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into two.  We're the lowest

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bidder as a whole, for the whole

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bid, but the bid got divided

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into two and in one area where

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you're a bit higher than our

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competitors.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  well it's

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a competitive situation every

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time every dollar counts I'm

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just sharing that.  I don't know

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anything about that I don't know

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other than what you said I

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appreciate how you have

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presented yourself here no

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hostility just saying I'm in the

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game I want to stay with it but

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those are the rules that we try

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to follow because we're man

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dated to do that.  You have been

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heard.  Stay in the process,

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stay in the bidding.  As you

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said, since 2006, you have been

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in this, you wouldn't be this

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far ahead 20 years if you didn't

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know your apples and your

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dollars and all of that.  So, I

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wish you good luck with that.

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» speaker:  thank you very much.

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» board secretary, chante

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mitchell:  the next speaker will

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be ernesto macias who will be

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followed by ryan meyers.

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» speaker:  good morning

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commissioners my name is ernesto

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macias    here to speak on

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agenda item number 17 I'm here

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representing tree service kings

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a proud local meernt opened

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business based in the city of

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los angeles.  I'm asking the

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commission to reconsider

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awarding both group 1 and 2

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around ifb number 700, solely to

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tsk.  Tsq isn't just

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headquartered here, our

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employees are raised here, raise

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families here and support this

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community every paycheck we

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issue stays local every dollar

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earned is spent in los angeles.

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when you award to tsk, you are

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directly investing in the people

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who make this city wrun.  In

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contrast utility tree service is

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not local their paperwork shows

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chino uts subsidiary of aspen

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tree expert company

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headquartered in philadelphia,

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pa, they are not embedded in

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this community and their track

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record raises serious concerns

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when uts previously held this

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contract they struggled to meet

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ladwp's expectations.  They

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turned to tsk for help.  They

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help keep the system afloat some

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of the struggles may not be

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public but we respectfully ask

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staff and commission to examine

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those reviews and operational

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reports closely these serious

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questions about their current

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capacity to take on ladwp most

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demanding region which is the

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metro reliability and responses

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are critical.  Tsk has

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delivered.  We have reduced tree

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related outages, trim suggest on

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schedule, and our annual ladwp

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is able to manage the entire

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city with its current staffing

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levels because of our

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efficiency.  During the

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palisades fire -- tsk deployed

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over 20 crews working seven days

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a week all while maintaining a

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full system that's not theory

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that's commitment and action we

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know our protest appeal were

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denied we respect that process

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but the concerns remain and so

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this opportunity to do what's

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right for the city awarding both

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areas to tsk means that

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operational success it's about

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trusting the people who have

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prove app themselves keeping our

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resources in our communities

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standing with the workforce

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that's showing up where it

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matters most.  Thank you.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

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I would repeat pretty much what

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I said to the gentleman who

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spoke before you that was the

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same company correct?

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» speaker:  yes, ma'am.

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» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

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as far as something being

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outside of the city or state the

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city of los angeles department

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of water and power we do

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business with people all over

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the united states if it comes to

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that so while we are certainly

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always looking for what we're

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trying to accomplish and the

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people who handle the

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commissioners we do not handle

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the bids we have expert people

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who are handling those type of

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things but wouldn't want you to

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think that bids are simply

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looked at regionally or these

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are our people we don't think

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like that we are thinking

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economic range here so your

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remarks have been heard as I

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said to the other gentleman,

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this is the company with 20

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years and as you said you

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produce and do good things and

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I'm sure you will be looked at

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in a continuing and competitive

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situation with ladwp.

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» speaker:  thank you madam

564
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commissioner.

565
00:19:38,137 --> 00:19:39,005
» com. Wilma pinder:  you're

566
00:19:38,771 --> 00:19:40,773
welcome.

567
00:19:39,072 --> 00:19:43,342
» nurit katz:  may I respond as

568
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,145
well, commissioner?

569
00:19:43,409 --> 00:19:47,747
» com. Wilma pinder:  please.

570
00:19:46,212 --> 00:19:50,416
another commissioner.

571
00:19:47,814 --> 00:19:52,585
» nurit katz:  yes thank you to

572
00:19:50,483 --> 00:19:54,653
both of the tree service kings

573
00:19:52,652 --> 00:19:55,888
speakers really appreciate you

574
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,523
raising these concerns I will

575
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one year with renewal options so

576
00:20:00,794 --> 00:20:03,763
we take seriously concerns and

577
00:20:02,795 --> 00:20:06,565
considerations obviously it's

578
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:08,634
complex when coming from a

579
00:20:06,632 --> 00:20:10,136
competitor but to the community

580
00:20:08,701 --> 00:20:11,671
if you have concerns with either

581
00:20:10,203 --> 00:20:14,006
company please do raise those

582
00:20:11,738 --> 00:20:15,274
we'll look closely at the

583
00:20:14,073 --> 00:20:17,110
performance of these contracts

584
00:20:15,341 --> 00:20:18,744
and long-term will continue to

585
00:20:17,177 --> 00:20:19,578
consider through this

586
00:20:18,811 --> 00:20:22,281
competitive process the best

587
00:20:19,645 --> 00:20:24,584
positions for the city.  It's a

588
00:20:22,348 --> 00:20:26,752
legal process the rfq process so

589
00:20:24,651 --> 00:20:28,154
we do not have the option to

590
00:20:26,819 --> 00:20:30,923
award the contract differently

591
00:20:28,221 --> 00:20:32,091
today.  But I will is say to the

592
00:20:30,990 --> 00:20:34,727
tree service king speakers,

593
00:20:32,158 --> 00:20:36,863
thank you for your service so

594
00:20:34,794 --> 00:20:38,631
far.  As commissioner pinder

595
00:20:36,929 --> 00:20:42,502
said please continue to bid as

596
00:20:38,698 --> 00:20:44,804
needed and on a personal note,

597
00:20:42,569 --> 00:20:46,539
did I have a backyard tree

598
00:20:44,871 --> 00:20:47,440
trimming recently for utility

599
00:20:46,606 --> 00:20:48,541
lines and was appreciative of

600
00:20:47,507 --> 00:20:49,675
the notice and service that I

601
00:20:48,608 --> 00:20:51,110
received.  So, again, thank you

602
00:20:49,742 --> 00:20:53,012
for the service you have given

603
00:20:51,176 --> 00:20:54,247
so far although we're not able

604
00:20:53,078 --> 00:20:55,781
to change the awarding of the

605
00:20:54,313 --> 00:20:56,482
contract today.  Again, we

606
00:20:55,848 --> 00:20:58,451
welcome any feedback from the

607
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:59,285
community on any of our

608
00:20:58,517 --> 00:21:00,352
contractors, and we will

609
00:20:59,351 --> 00:21:01,788
continue to evaluate the

610
00:21:00,419 --> 00:21:04,623
performance of these contracts

611
00:21:01,854 --> 00:21:05,157
over time.

612
00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:05,891
» board secretary, chante

613
00:21:05,224 --> 00:21:08,695
mitchell:  the next speaker is

614
00:21:05,958 --> 00:21:19,505
ryan meyers who will be followed

615
00:21:08,761 --> 00:21:21,073
by valerie lizeraga.

616
00:21:19,572 --> 00:21:23,809
» speaker:  I'm ryan meyers

617
00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:25,244
director of operations of

618
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utility tree service we'll --

619
00:21:25,311 --> 00:21:27,446
I'll be speaking to item 17.

620
00:21:26,646 --> 00:21:30,116
good morning commissioners and

621
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thank you for the opportunity to

622
00:21:30,183 --> 00:21:32,285
partners with ladwp on

623
00:21:30,983 --> 00:21:34,187
vegetation management services

624
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on behalf of utility tree

625
00:21:34,254 --> 00:21:37,223
service.  We're honored to

626
00:21:35,888 --> 00:21:38,524
support your mission, keeping

627
00:21:37,290 --> 00:21:40,659
your electric system safe,

628
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reliable, and compliant for the

629
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communities that you serve.

630
00:21:41,895 --> 00:21:46,232
in the prebid conference you

631
00:21:43,996 --> 00:21:48,267
emphasized that you intended to

632
00:21:46,299 --> 00:21:50,603
make two awards one contract

633
00:21:48,334 --> 00:21:51,971
area north and south we just

634
00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:53,840
want to thank you for choosing u

635
00:21:52,038 --> 00:21:55,241
are tilt tree service in the

636
00:21:53,906 --> 00:21:56,576
south it's a smart strategic

637
00:21:55,308 --> 00:21:58,344
decision for ladwp and customers

638
00:21:56,642 --> 00:22:00,746
and we are a local company.  We

639
00:21:58,411 --> 00:22:04,217
are a california llc, but we

640
00:22:00,813 --> 00:22:05,217
have over 700 employees here.

641
00:22:04,284 --> 00:22:07,920
our employees live within

642
00:22:05,284 --> 00:22:09,722
drivable distance of ladwp and

643
00:22:07,987 --> 00:22:11,891
we serve every major utility

644
00:22:09,789 --> 00:22:20,466
here in the state from san

645
00:22:11,958 --> 00:22:21,667
diego, socal edison, pg&e, north

646
00:22:20,533 --> 00:22:25,271
sacramento smud so we're well

647
00:22:21,734 --> 00:22:28,607
versed in the industry as far as

648
00:22:25,338 --> 00:22:31,610
value we deliver the lowest life

649
00:22:28,674 --> 00:22:33,078
cycle cost while maintaining

650
00:22:31,677 --> 00:22:34,013
highest standards of safety

651
00:22:33,145 --> 00:22:36,715
quality and regulatory

652
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,551
compliance which is huge for us

653
00:22:36,782 --> 00:22:43,222
our safety performance leading

654
00:22:38,617 --> 00:22:45,457
it.  Cir injury incident rate is

655
00:22:43,289 --> 00:22:46,091
consistently 50% better than

656
00:22:45,524 --> 00:22:48,528
competitors in the industry

657
00:22:46,158 --> 00:22:50,930
which as you know this is very

658
00:22:48,594 --> 00:22:53,899
dangerous work here that we do

659
00:22:50,997 --> 00:22:55,534
our teams have isa certified

660
00:22:53,966 --> 00:22:57,470
arborists and utility

661
00:22:55,601 --> 00:23:01,574
specialists with decades of

662
00:22:57,537 --> 00:23:06,779
experience on a l.e.d. Wp system

663
00:23:01,641 --> 00:23:08,881
what differentiates us we

664
00:23:06,846 --> 00:23:11,583
haven't a comprehensive employee

665
00:23:08,948 --> 00:23:13,886
screening    we verify drug test

666
00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:15,254
all employees ensure 100%

667
00:23:13,953 --> 00:23:18,991
compliance with federal

668
00:23:15,321 --> 00:23:21,961
standards osha ansi standards

669
00:23:19,058 --> 00:23:24,830
soc two certified it huge this

670
00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:27,566
industry here to safeguard all

671
00:23:24,897 --> 00:23:29,168
distribution transmission data

672
00:23:27,633 --> 00:23:29,835
is a huge thing rapid

673
00:23:29,235 --> 00:23:31,871
mobilization capabilities within

674
00:23:29,902 --> 00:23:32,905
the state as well outside of the

675
00:23:31,938 --> 00:23:34,540
state as you know with the

676
00:23:32,972 --> 00:23:37,142
recent fires and things like

677
00:23:34,607 --> 00:23:41,146
that we have workforce can tap

678
00:23:37,209 --> 00:23:43,048
on -- was that two minutes?

679
00:23:41,213 --> 00:23:43,749
I'll wrap up here committed

680
00:23:43,115 --> 00:23:45,451
transparency collaboration

681
00:23:43,816 --> 00:23:47,252
continues improvement our goal

682
00:23:45,518 --> 00:23:48,554
is to align with ladwp

683
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,855
operational priorities community

684
00:23:48,621 --> 00:23:50,923
values delivering best class

685
00:23:49,922 --> 00:23:52,624
vegetation management every day

686
00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:54,927
we want to thank you for your

687
00:23:52,691 --> 00:23:56,929
trust look forward to partnering

688
00:23:54,994 --> 00:23:59,465
with ladwp answering questions

689
00:23:56,996 --> 00:24:01,033
getting to work we're ready to

690
00:23:59,532 --> 00:24:02,134
deliver the best-in-class

691
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:05,171
vegetation management solutions

692
00:24:02,201 --> 00:24:07,907
that align with your operational

693
00:24:05,238 --> 00:24:09,809
goals and community.  Thank you.

694
00:24:07,974 --> 00:24:10,576
» nurit katz:  I invited the

695
00:24:09,876 --> 00:24:12,411
community to provide feedback on

696
00:24:10,643 --> 00:24:13,445
these contractors I did not mean

697
00:24:12,478 --> 00:24:15,715
to the commission so the

698
00:24:13,512 --> 00:24:17,316
commission is not engaged in

699
00:24:15,782 --> 00:24:18,384
selecting these vendors we are

700
00:24:17,383 --> 00:24:20,152
approving the contract but the

701
00:24:18,451 --> 00:24:21,920
selection is by staff so if you

702
00:24:20,219 --> 00:24:23,889
have feedback on the service of

703
00:24:21,987 --> 00:24:26,625
these contractors please share

704
00:24:23,956 --> 00:24:27,526
with ladwp staff that is always

705
00:24:26,692 --> 00:24:28,193
welcome.

706
00:24:27,593 --> 00:24:29,294
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

707
00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:30,496
f that's important clarity

708
00:24:29,361 --> 00:24:30,996
because we don't do that thank

709
00:24:30,563 --> 00:24:31,630
you.

710
00:24:31,063 --> 00:24:32,164
» speaker:  thank you.

711
00:24:31,697 --> 00:24:33,298
» board secretary, chante

712
00:24:32,231 --> 00:24:36,969
mitchell:  the next speaker is

713
00:24:33,365 --> 00:24:38,237
valerie lizeraga followed by

714
00:24:37,036 --> 00:24:39,004
fateme murietta.

715
00:24:38,304 --> 00:24:40,973
» speaker:  good morning I'm

716
00:24:39,071 --> 00:24:41,874
going to make a general comment.

717
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,175
good morning commissioners my

718
00:24:41,941 --> 00:24:46,479
name is valerie, I'm the

719
00:24:43,242 --> 00:24:54,153
assistant director of organizing

720
00:24:46,546 --> 00:24:56,022
and policy with jobs to

721
00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:58,290
america's western states team

722
00:24:56,089 --> 00:25:00,025
jma is a national non-profit

723
00:24:58,357 --> 00:25:01,127
organization that conducts

724
00:25:00,092 --> 00:25:02,028
rigorous independent research on

725
00:25:01,194 --> 00:25:04,497
manufacturing economy and works

726
00:25:02,094 --> 00:25:05,931
in coalition with communities to

727
00:25:04,564 --> 00:25:07,633
negotiate community benefit

728
00:25:05,998 --> 00:25:09,468
agreements and benefit all

729
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,437
stakeholders including promoting

730
00:25:09,535 --> 00:25:14,006
safe quality jobs in

731
00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:16,308
september 2025 members of our

732
00:25:14,073 --> 00:25:19,178
team partners joined the board

733
00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:21,347
of water and power commissioners

734
00:25:19,245 --> 00:25:23,382
meeting to share about a new

735
00:25:21,414 --> 00:25:24,483
report that was published by jma

736
00:25:23,449 --> 00:25:26,652
after two years of investigation

737
00:25:24,550 --> 00:25:28,754
which documented troubling labor

738
00:25:26,719 --> 00:25:31,557
and environmental conditions at

739
00:25:28,821 --> 00:25:33,392
neptune technology group major

740
00:25:31,624 --> 00:25:35,994
manufacture of smart water

741
00:25:33,459 --> 00:25:37,863
meters based in tallahassee,

742
00:25:36,061 --> 00:25:40,533
alabama and key supplier of

743
00:25:37,930 --> 00:25:42,134
ladwp neptune workers surveyed

744
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,437
reported having witnessed or

745
00:25:42,201 --> 00:25:46,806
experienced at least one serious

746
00:25:44,504 --> 00:25:49,341
injury on the job nearly 70

747
00:25:46,873 --> 00:25:52,277
survey workers reported

748
00:25:49,408 --> 00:25:56,348
experiencing or witnessing

749
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:57,416
unfair treatment including

750
00:25:56,415 --> 00:25:59,618
favoritism inconsistent

751
00:25:57,483 --> 00:26:02,455
discipline racism and sexism and

752
00:25:59,685 --> 00:26:04,590
that two landfills where neptune

753
00:26:02,522 --> 00:26:06,058
sends its waste have long been

754
00:26:04,657 --> 00:26:06,959
focus of environmental justice

755
00:26:06,125 --> 00:26:08,994
investigations and litigation we

756
00:26:07,026 --> 00:26:09,928
believe that the city of los

757
00:26:09,061 --> 00:26:12,064
angeles and ladwp can and should

758
00:26:09,995 --> 00:26:13,966
continue to be a leader in

759
00:26:12,131 --> 00:26:14,934
uplifting strong workers and

760
00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:16,668
standards and procuring

761
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,637
equipment from companies that

762
00:26:16,735 --> 00:26:19,605
treat workers and surrounding

763
00:26:18,704 --> 00:26:21,173
communities with responsibility

764
00:26:19,672 --> 00:26:22,875
and respect is crucial at the

765
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,577
board meeting in september 2025

766
00:26:22,942 --> 00:26:26,512
the board committed to

767
00:26:24,644 --> 00:26:28,714
investigating these findings and

768
00:26:26,612 --> 00:26:30,649
agendaize this item for further

769
00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:34,920
discussion we're here to ask the

770
00:26:30,716 --> 00:26:36,489
board for an update to follow up

771
00:26:34,987 --> 00:26:37,856
regarding these concerns and ask

772
00:26:36,556 --> 00:26:39,124
you to follow-through with your

773
00:26:37,923 --> 00:26:41,494
commitment to agendaize this

774
00:26:39,191 --> 00:26:42,427
important item for further

775
00:26:41,561 --> 00:26:44,062
discussion.  Thank you.  I'll

776
00:26:42,494 --> 00:26:45,865
end that we brought two copies

777
00:26:44,129 --> 00:26:46,798
of the report for the two new

778
00:26:45,932 --> 00:26:48,200
commissioners and also want to

779
00:26:46,865 --> 00:26:50,936
say welcome.  Thank you.  Please

780
00:26:48,267 --> 00:26:51,937
let us know how we should hand

781
00:26:51,003 --> 00:26:52,571
it to you all.

782
00:26:52,004 --> 00:26:54,940
» com. Wilma pinder:  someone

783
00:26:52,638 --> 00:26:55,474
will take it now.  Thank you.

784
00:26:55,007 --> 00:26:57,409
» board secretary, chante

785
00:26:55,541 --> 00:27:01,613
mitchell:  the next speaker will

786
00:26:57,476 --> 00:27:04,183
be fateme marietta followed by

787
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,184
martin marufo.

788
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:08,220
» speaker:  good morning my name

789
00:27:05,251 --> 00:27:09,621
is fateme I'm here to give

790
00:27:08,287 --> 00:27:10,822
public comment I'm a senior

791
00:27:09,688 --> 00:27:13,525
organizer with jobs to move

792
00:27:10,889 --> 00:27:15,294
america and I was also here at

793
00:27:13,592 --> 00:27:16,795
the last board meeting in

794
00:27:15,361 --> 00:27:18,163
september 2025 and shared key

795
00:27:16,862 --> 00:27:20,299
findings that valerie just

796
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:21,833
reviewed with you.  And I'm here

797
00:27:20,366 --> 00:27:23,635
again to respectfully ask the

798
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,636
board to follow-through with

799
00:27:23,702 --> 00:27:27,940
your commitment to investigate

800
00:27:24,703 --> 00:27:32,911
these findings and to agendaize

801
00:27:28,007 --> 00:27:35,113
a report back at an upcoming

802
00:27:32,978 --> 00:27:36,582
board meeting.  Since we last

803
00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:38,651
spoke to you about the report

804
00:27:36,649 --> 00:27:43,388
neptune has hired a consultant

805
00:27:38,718 --> 00:27:46,926
to meet with workers on the

806
00:27:43,455 --> 00:27:48,193
clock to, "represent neptune in

807
00:27:46,993 --> 00:27:50,028
their facility at tallahassee

808
00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:50,930
and alabama and developing a

809
00:27:50,095 --> 00:27:53,232
training and communication

810
00:27:50,997 --> 00:27:56,402
materials regarding the national

811
00:27:53,299 --> 00:27:58,437
labor relations act according to

812
00:27:56,468 --> 00:28:01,340
the federal disclosure

813
00:27:58,504 --> 00:28:02,942
documents."  neptune has

814
00:28:01,407 --> 00:28:06,078
characterized mischaracterized

815
00:28:03,009 --> 00:28:08,480
reports and findings and jm's

816
00:28:06,145 --> 00:28:09,715
activities these actions are

817
00:28:08,547 --> 00:28:10,950
concerning the good

818
00:28:09,782 --> 00:28:12,618
neighborhoods alabama coalition

819
00:28:11,017 --> 00:28:15,755
is made up of 25 organizations

820
00:28:12,685 --> 00:28:18,090
and jma is one of them, aiming

821
00:28:15,821 --> 00:28:19,024
to partner with workers in the

822
00:28:18,157 --> 00:28:20,293
community in the company to

823
00:28:19,091 --> 00:28:22,261
address the issues outlined in

824
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,530
the report our hope is that

825
00:28:22,328 --> 00:28:25,664
workers and community in alabama

826
00:28:24,597 --> 00:28:26,532
who build these water saving

827
00:28:25,731 --> 00:28:28,300
infrastructure products for los

828
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,669
angeles are doing so in safe and

829
00:28:28,367 --> 00:28:32,037
fair working conditions and that

830
00:28:30,736 --> 00:28:33,238
strong environmental standards

831
00:28:32,104 --> 00:28:34,873
are put in place to protect

832
00:28:33,305 --> 00:28:36,341
surrounding communities.  The

833
00:28:34,940 --> 00:28:38,410
coalition has asked neptune to

834
00:28:36,441 --> 00:28:39,912
take the report's finding

835
00:28:38,477 --> 00:28:41,280
seriously and to come together

836
00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:43,849
in the pursuit of real solutions

837
00:28:41,347 --> 00:28:46,585
but in a communication to its

838
00:28:43,916 --> 00:28:49,288
workers neptune falsely stated

839
00:28:46,652 --> 00:28:51,423
the report was, quote "coupled

840
00:28:49,354 --> 00:28:53,125
with demand that the company

841
00:28:51,490 --> 00:28:56,362
recognizes a labor union and

842
00:28:53,192 --> 00:28:58,864
requirement that workers pay

843
00:28:56,429 --> 00:29:00,999
union dues."  neptune also

844
00:28:58,931 --> 00:29:03,368
falsely allege that good

845
00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:04,936
neighbors alabama approximate

846
00:29:03,435 --> 00:29:07,573
and jobs to move measuring try

847
00:29:05,003 --> 00:29:10,175
to trick workers into signing

848
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:17,816
authorization cards.  All not

849
00:29:10,242 --> 00:29:20,218
true.  In our opinion neptune

850
00:29:17,883 --> 00:29:22,087
miscarries reminded us of union

851
00:29:20,285 --> 00:29:23,855
tactics and we want a commitment

852
00:29:22,154 --> 00:29:25,023
to win-win solution to solve

853
00:29:23,922 --> 00:29:27,426
these serious problems and look

854
00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:30,462
forward to seeing this item

855
00:29:27,493 --> 00:29:33,165
agenda at a future board meeting

856
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:34,467
and hearing back from the board.

857
00:29:33,232 --> 00:29:35,868
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

858
00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:36,635
» nurit katz:  we did request

859
00:29:35,935 --> 00:29:38,570
that staff investigate this

860
00:29:36,702 --> 00:29:39,571
issue and appreciate you raising

861
00:29:38,637 --> 00:29:41,507
it and will certainly reach out

862
00:29:39,638 --> 00:29:42,741
when there is resolution or

863
00:29:41,607 --> 00:29:43,676
additional information from the

864
00:29:42,808 --> 00:29:44,210
water system.  Thank you.

865
00:29:43,743 --> 00:29:47,112
» board secretary, chante

866
00:29:44,276 --> 00:29:50,182
mitchell:  next speaker martin

867
00:29:47,179 --> 00:29:50,616
marufa followed by bruce

868
00:29:50,249 --> 00:29:51,150
resnick.

869
00:29:50,683 --> 00:29:55,287
» speaker:  good morning

870
00:29:51,216 --> 00:29:56,622
commission good morning staff

871
00:29:55,354 --> 00:29:58,924
good morning everybody for the

872
00:29:56,689 --> 00:29:59,524
new members what were you

873
00:29:58,991 --> 00:29:59,858
thinking?

874
00:29:59,591 --> 00:30:01,927
[laughter]

875
00:29:59,925 --> 00:30:03,995
this is a very difficult job

876
00:30:01,994 --> 00:30:06,532
there is a lot here.  I'm a

877
00:30:04,062 --> 00:30:08,500
lifelong resident of los angeles

878
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,869
went to public schools did the

879
00:30:08,567 --> 00:30:13,238
whole route worked southern

880
00:30:10,936 --> 00:30:14,506
california edison former

881
00:30:13,305 --> 00:30:16,675
employee of ladwp generation

882
00:30:14,573 --> 00:30:18,010
steam generation for a long time

883
00:30:16,742 --> 00:30:20,412
out on the outside but it's

884
00:30:18,076 --> 00:30:23,248
important for the residents for

885
00:30:20,479 --> 00:30:27,586
the citizens for member adlies

886
00:30:23,315 --> 00:30:29,554
at ibw local 18 because I'm the

887
00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:32,591
business manager also ibw local

888
00:30:29,621 --> 00:30:34,559
18 to have reliable efficient

889
00:30:32,658 --> 00:30:36,194
affordable power scattering

890
00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:38,397
generating station has been

891
00:30:36,261 --> 00:30:39,798
discussed for many years the

892
00:30:38,464 --> 00:30:42,334
repower it's utmost important we

893
00:30:39,865 --> 00:30:44,770
get this handled pushed through

894
00:30:42,401 --> 00:30:46,838
we have environmental concerns I

895
00:30:44,837 --> 00:30:48,840
live in wilmington I'm right

896
00:30:46,905 --> 00:30:49,875
next to harbor generating

897
00:30:48,907 --> 00:30:51,743
station so I understands what

898
00:30:49,942 --> 00:30:53,311
it's like to live next to a

899
00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:54,913
power plant we also have

900
00:30:53,378 --> 00:30:56,748
refineries and we have chemical

901
00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:59,218
plants there but the important

902
00:30:56,815 --> 00:31:01,353
of having reliable power now at

903
00:30:59,284 --> 00:31:02,888
this time is important we cannot

904
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:04,256
ignore the impact that it will

905
00:31:02,955 --> 00:31:06,158
have we believe that we should

906
00:31:04,323 --> 00:31:08,060
be going to renewable power but

907
00:31:06,225 --> 00:31:11,029
the technology is not there this

908
00:31:08,127 --> 00:31:13,232
is an opportunity at scattergood

909
00:31:11,096 --> 00:31:14,833
to have hydrogen introduced to

910
00:31:13,298 --> 00:31:16,401
our system and this is going to

911
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,137
help us get to that next level

912
00:31:16,468 --> 00:31:19,838
we understand that hydrogen will

913
00:31:18,203 --> 00:31:21,873
be difficult and challenging but

914
00:31:19,905 --> 00:31:24,676
it's not impossible we need to

915
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:25,744
find a way to fix this it's not

916
00:31:24,743 --> 00:31:27,746
acceptable to just kick this can

917
00:31:25,811 --> 00:31:29,448
down the road we are working

918
00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:31,616
with environmental groups spoken

919
00:31:29,515 --> 00:31:33,385
at the water resources board to

920
00:31:31,683 --> 00:31:35,353
talk about expending some of the

921
00:31:33,452 --> 00:31:37,022
allowances we have to continue

922
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:38,690
generating and using gas powered

923
00:31:37,089 --> 00:31:41,226
energy but we're at a point

924
00:31:38,757 --> 00:31:43,061
right now where we need on get

925
00:31:41,293 --> 00:31:44,496
this passed and pushed forward.

926
00:31:43,128 --> 00:31:46,498
please, take all the time and

927
00:31:44,563 --> 00:31:48,467
attention you need but this is

928
00:31:46,565 --> 00:31:50,001
of utmost importance to

929
00:31:48,534 --> 00:31:51,169
everybody, member citizens, all

930
00:31:50,068 --> 00:31:51,903
of us.  Thank you.

931
00:31:51,236 --> 00:31:53,371
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

932
00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:54,206
for your comment.

933
00:31:53,438 --> 00:31:55,741
» board secretary, chante

934
00:31:54,273 --> 00:31:58,877
mitchell:  final speaker will be

935
00:31:55,808 --> 00:32:04,850
mr. Bruce resnik.

936
00:31:58,944 --> 00:32:06,985
» speaker:  good morning.  My

937
00:32:04,917 --> 00:32:08,620
name is bruce resnik executive

938
00:32:07,052 --> 00:32:09,488
director of la water keeper

939
00:32:08,687 --> 00:32:10,656
thank you for the opportunity to

940
00:32:09,555 --> 00:32:11,990
speak today different commission

941
00:32:10,723 --> 00:32:14,092
from the last time I testified I

942
00:32:12,057 --> 00:32:15,827
see some new folks here and

943
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:17,529
welcome.  I'm here to support

944
00:32:15,894 --> 00:32:19,131
the groundwater replenishment

945
00:32:17,596 --> 00:32:29,341
project and all modifications

946
00:32:19,198 --> 00:32:29,941
made.  Wastewater recycling is

947
00:32:29,408 --> 00:32:33,879
scro

948
00:32:30,008 --> 00:32:35,947
absolutely critical at 70% local

949
00:32:33,946 --> 00:32:37,816
water goal just to be water

950
00:32:36,014 --> 00:32:39,518
secure water resilient city and

951
00:32:37,883 --> 00:32:46,925
expanding the tillman project

952
00:32:39,585 --> 00:32:50,462
from the rim 25mgd to 45mgd is

953
00:32:46,992 --> 00:32:53,832
extremely cost-effective license

954
00:32:50,529 --> 00:32:57,669
the project was already being

955
00:32:53,899 --> 00:32:59,838
developed to get 20mgd of local

956
00:32:57,736 --> 00:33:01,706
water and potentially reduce

957
00:32:59,905 --> 00:33:04,843
expensive energy intensive

958
00:33:01,773 --> 00:33:06,378
pumping of water from hyperion

959
00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:08,947
backpack to the valley when the

960
00:33:06,445 --> 00:33:12,384
full pure water la project comes

961
00:33:09,014 --> 00:33:13,084
on board that being said we're

962
00:33:12,451 --> 00:33:14,653
concerned the commission and

963
00:33:13,151 --> 00:33:17,723
staff take count to make sure

964
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,259
that we're protecting flows in

965
00:33:17,789 --> 00:33:22,460
the la river when we're --

966
00:33:21,326 --> 00:33:23,595
exactly this water we have

967
00:33:22,527 --> 00:33:25,864
actually been working closely

968
00:33:23,661 --> 00:33:27,432
with staff over the last couple

969
00:33:25,931 --> 00:33:30,468
of years protecting critical

970
00:33:27,499 --> 00:33:32,371
flows of la river.  We also

971
00:33:30,535 --> 00:33:34,373
look forward to the broader pure

972
00:33:32,438 --> 00:33:36,174
water la project coming online.

973
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,076
I county stand up here and ever

974
00:33:36,241 --> 00:33:39,678
-- you know, without saying

975
00:33:38,143 --> 00:33:41,246
hopefully sooner than the 2056

976
00:33:39,745 --> 00:33:42,748
goal it's such a critical

977
00:33:41,313 --> 00:33:46,552
project and another great

978
00:33:42,814 --> 00:33:47,886
project for workers and    labor

979
00:33:46,619 --> 00:33:50,088
and also both these projects

980
00:33:47,953 --> 00:33:51,223
that are groundwater

981
00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:52,857
replenishment and the broader

982
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:54,793
pure water la are going to be

983
00:33:52,924 --> 00:33:59,631
critical for us to reduce our

984
00:33:54,860 --> 00:34:01,766
import of water from places like

985
00:33:59,698 --> 00:34:04,603
mono lake and of course mwd

986
00:34:01,833 --> 00:34:07,005
colorado river and bay delta and

987
00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:07,939
help restore those critical

988
00:34:07,072 --> 00:34:09,074
ecosystems to help.

989
00:34:08,006 --> 00:34:10,842
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

990
00:34:09,141 --> 00:34:11,977
very much.  I believe that was

991
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:12,511
the last public speaker.

992
00:34:12,043 --> 00:34:13,178
» board secretary, chante

993
00:34:12,577 --> 00:34:14,479
mitchell:  public comment is now

994
00:34:13,245 --> 00:34:15,514
closed at this time.

995
00:34:14,546 --> 00:34:18,483
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

996
00:34:15,581 --> 00:34:20,719
the next agenda item item f

997
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:23,121
reporting and briefing.  And,

998
00:34:20,786 --> 00:34:24,489
joe, while we know you well,

999
00:34:23,188 --> 00:34:26,491
since there are various people

1000
00:34:24,556 --> 00:34:29,728
in the audience who may have

1001
00:34:26,558 --> 00:34:30,829
come just to hear our ceo's

1002
00:34:29,795 --> 00:34:32,664
remarks, will you introduce

1003
00:34:30,896 --> 00:34:33,398
yourself and give a little

1004
00:34:32,731 --> 00:34:34,933
background to our general

1005
00:34:33,464 --> 00:34:35,667
manager audience before making

1006
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,335
that report?

1007
00:34:35,734 --> 00:34:37,069
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  sure.

1008
00:34:36,401 --> 00:34:38,737
thank you very much

1009
00:34:37,136 --> 00:34:40,038
commissioner.  My name is joe

1010
00:34:38,804 --> 00:34:42,374
ramallo, I'm chief customer

1011
00:34:40,104 --> 00:34:43,875
officer at ladwp.  I want to be

1012
00:34:42,441 --> 00:34:48,280
welcome everyone today I'm

1013
00:34:43,942 --> 00:34:49,314
sitting in for our ceo and chief

1014
00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:50,982
engineer janisse quiñones today.

1015
00:34:49,381 --> 00:34:53,318
my team oversees and works on

1016
00:34:51,049 --> 00:34:54,653
all matters involving customer

1017
00:34:53,385 --> 00:34:56,488
service as well as billing,

1018
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,455
dealing with key accounts as

1019
00:34:56,555 --> 00:34:59,992
well as residential and

1020
00:34:57,522 --> 00:35:00,559
commercial customers also

1021
00:35:00,059 --> 00:35:02,227
oversee communications and

1022
00:35:00,626 --> 00:35:03,561
community affairs team that does

1023
00:35:02,294 --> 00:35:05,597
a lot of the work including one

1024
00:35:03,628 --> 00:35:07,699
of the reports before you today

1025
00:35:05,664 --> 00:35:09,468
concerning our palisades work

1026
00:35:07,766 --> 00:35:10,435
over the last year.  Also

1027
00:35:09,535 --> 00:35:12,437
supervisor our distributed

1028
00:35:10,502 --> 00:35:13,938
energy resources team that

1029
00:35:12,504 --> 00:35:16,074
involves energy efficiency,

1030
00:35:14,005 --> 00:35:18,710
battery storage, in-basin work.

1031
00:35:16,141 --> 00:35:20,211
there is an item on your agenda

1032
00:35:18,777 --> 00:35:21,480
today regarding significant

1033
00:35:20,278 --> 00:35:23,915
expansion toward our distributed

1034
00:35:21,547 --> 00:35:25,583
energy resources.  And our

1035
00:35:23,982 --> 00:35:27,486
claims team, as well.  So when

1036
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:28,453
we have an incident in a

1037
00:35:27,553 --> 00:35:31,690
community, if a water main

1038
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,492
breaks, and it affects a

1039
00:35:31,757 --> 00:35:34,859
customer, the claim is filed

1040
00:35:33,558 --> 00:35:35,827
that team reviews those claims

1041
00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:37,029
and works with our legal

1042
00:35:35,894 --> 00:35:39,164
department to find a resolution

1043
00:35:37,096 --> 00:35:40,365
for our customers.  So very

1044
00:35:39,231 --> 00:35:42,534
pleased to be with you today.

1045
00:35:40,432 --> 00:35:45,170
we have some operational updates

1046
00:35:42,601 --> 00:35:46,071
f you can transition into that?

1047
00:35:45,237 --> 00:35:46,304
» com. Wilma pinder:  yes

1048
00:35:46,138 --> 00:35:47,305
please.

1049
00:35:46,371 --> 00:35:50,041
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  we'll

1050
00:35:47,372 --> 00:35:52,844
start with anselmo collins water

1051
00:35:50,108 --> 00:35:55,647
system followed by dave hanson I

1052
00:35:52,911 --> 00:35:57,816
have a few items then zori eya g

1053
00:35:55,714 --> 00:35:58,450
who is our chief resiliency and

1054
00:35:57,883 --> 00:36:00,418
emergency management officer

1055
00:35:58,517 --> 00:36:01,619
will also speak to a couple of

1056
00:36:00,485 --> 00:36:02,921
items just before that I want to

1057
00:36:01,686 --> 00:36:03,622
say welcome to our new

1058
00:36:02,988 --> 00:36:05,424
commissioners pleased to you

1059
00:36:03,689 --> 00:36:08,193
have on board on behalf of

1060
00:36:05,491 --> 00:36:09,027
janisse, as well, as our entire

1061
00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:11,096
executive team we look forward

1062
00:36:09,093 --> 00:36:12,831
to working with you and for you.

1063
00:36:11,163 --> 00:36:14,365
and are here as a resource to

1064
00:36:12,898 --> 00:36:17,202
you.  Thank you.  With that I'll

1065
00:36:14,432 --> 00:36:18,170
turn it over to anselmo.

1066
00:36:17,269 --> 00:36:19,538
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

1067
00:36:18,237 --> 00:36:20,906
» anselmo collins:  thank you

1068
00:36:19,605 --> 00:36:22,240
joe.  Good morning

1069
00:36:20,973 --> 00:36:23,975
commissioners, anselmo collins

1070
00:36:22,307 --> 00:36:26,011
water system typically this time

1071
00:36:24,042 --> 00:36:27,179
of year a provide a water supply

1072
00:36:26,077 --> 00:36:29,814
report to the board because

1073
00:36:27,245 --> 00:36:31,683
united states this is when we

1074
00:36:29,881 --> 00:36:32,784
collect the snow and rain that

1075
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:35,854
we use for the water supply for

1076
00:36:32,851 --> 00:36:36,622
the city of la we had a pretty

1077
00:36:35,921 --> 00:36:39,624
wet december especially towards

1078
00:36:36,688 --> 00:36:40,925
the end of the year beginning of

1079
00:36:39,691 --> 00:36:42,260
january.  Between the 31st of

1080
00:36:40,992 --> 00:36:44,095
december and january 4th, the

1081
00:36:42,327 --> 00:36:46,732
city of la got around two and a

1082
00:36:44,162 --> 00:36:48,500
half inches of water which is

1083
00:36:46,799 --> 00:36:50,468
quite significant, because for

1084
00:36:48,567 --> 00:36:51,870
the season, typically the city

1085
00:36:50,535 --> 00:36:55,440
of vallejo on average gets

1086
00:36:51,937 --> 00:36:56,475
around 15 inches so we got two

1087
00:36:55,507 --> 00:36:58,676
and a half just during that

1088
00:36:56,542 --> 00:37:00,445
time.     Since the beginning of

1089
00:36:58,743 --> 00:37:01,280
the water year which starts in

1090
00:37:00,512 --> 00:37:04,482
october until january 12th we

1091
00:37:01,346 --> 00:37:08,620
have received, the city of la,

1092
00:37:04,549 --> 00:37:09,988
12.4 inches of water.  The san

1093
00:37:08,687 --> 00:37:12,290
fernando valley got a little

1094
00:37:10,055 --> 00:37:12,924
over 17 inches of water that's a

1095
00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:16,127
pretty significant amount of

1096
00:37:12,991 --> 00:37:18,096
water that's allowed us to

1097
00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:20,665
capture a bit less than 56,000

1098
00:37:18,163 --> 00:37:22,567
acre feet of water.  Those

1099
00:37:20,732 --> 00:37:24,870
56,000 acre feet of water

1100
00:37:22,634 --> 00:37:27,038
translates to enough water to

1101
00:37:24,937 --> 00:37:28,040
serve approximately 223,000

1102
00:37:27,105 --> 00:37:30,241
homes in los angeles for an

1103
00:37:28,106 --> 00:37:34,613
entire year.  So, it's a pretty

1104
00:37:30,308 --> 00:37:36,181
significant amount of water that

1105
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,351
we have received.  It's still

1106
00:37:36,248 --> 00:37:41,119
early in the season so we're

1107
00:37:39,418 --> 00:37:42,654
hoping to get more storms here

1108
00:37:41,186 --> 00:37:44,289
but also more storms up north so

1109
00:37:42,721 --> 00:37:45,957
we can get more snowpack.  So

1110
00:37:44,356 --> 00:37:47,392
the department of water

1111
00:37:46,024 --> 00:37:49,661
resources which is a state

1112
00:37:47,459 --> 00:37:51,496
agency, every year conducts snow

1113
00:37:49,728 --> 00:37:52,897
surveys conducted their first

1114
00:37:51,563 --> 00:37:54,800
survey recently on december 30th

1115
00:37:52,964 --> 00:37:58,203
at the phillips station and they

1116
00:37:54,867 --> 00:38:00,271
recorded 24 inches of snow.

1117
00:37:58,270 --> 00:38:02,407
when you translate that to the

1118
00:38:00,338 --> 00:38:03,308
snow equivalent or water content

1119
00:38:02,474 --> 00:38:04,843
that's approximately five inches

1120
00:38:03,374 --> 00:38:07,112
of water a pretty good start to

1121
00:38:04,909 --> 00:38:09,915
the season as well.  Statewide,

1122
00:38:07,179 --> 00:38:13,751
the snowpack right now is around

1123
00:38:09,982 --> 00:38:14,752
81% of normal, and that is

1124
00:38:13,818 --> 00:38:16,788
measured in different locations

1125
00:38:14,819 --> 00:38:18,690
on average.  For los angeles, as

1126
00:38:16,855 --> 00:38:20,758
you know, we received our water

1127
00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:22,527
for the la aqueduct from the

1128
00:38:20,825 --> 00:38:24,329
eastern part of the sierra never

1129
00:38:22,594 --> 00:38:27,666
add as and we have mashed with

1130
00:38:24,396 --> 00:38:29,834
snow pillows, approximately 13.5

1131
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:31,937
inches.  Now, that number is

1132
00:38:29,901 --> 00:38:35,106
going to be verified by doing

1133
00:38:32,003 --> 00:38:36,808
our own snow surveys.  Our first

1134
00:38:35,173 --> 00:38:38,944
snow survey will be on

1135
00:38:36,875 --> 00:38:40,478
february 1st.  So we'll be able

1136
00:38:39,011 --> 00:38:42,347
to verify exactly how much snow

1137
00:38:40,545 --> 00:38:43,815
water content we have on the

1138
00:38:42,414 --> 00:38:45,350
eastern side of the sierras,

1139
00:38:43,881 --> 00:38:47,352
which is what provides water to

1140
00:38:45,416 --> 00:38:49,621
the city of los angeles.  A

1141
00:38:47,419 --> 00:38:51,790
couple of other things I want to

1142
00:38:49,688 --> 00:38:54,226
mention, one quite outstanding,

1143
00:38:51,856 --> 00:38:56,694
so january 6th, the state of

1144
00:38:54,293 --> 00:38:57,695
california actually declared

1145
00:38:56,761 --> 00:38:58,863
that there isn't a drought

1146
00:38:57,762 --> 00:39:00,498
condition in the state for the

1147
00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:02,301
first time in 25 years.  So all

1148
00:39:00,565 --> 00:39:03,835
parts of the state are not in a

1149
00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:06,404
drought.  That has not happened

1150
00:39:03,902 --> 00:39:07,138
in 25 years.  So that's pretty

1151
00:39:06,471 --> 00:39:07,805
significant there.

1152
00:39:07,205 --> 00:39:09,641
» com. Wilma pinder:  in fact, I

1153
00:39:07,872 --> 00:39:12,777
was going to say that myself.

1154
00:39:09,708 --> 00:39:16,915
so, I'm so glad that you made it

1155
00:39:12,844 --> 00:39:17,816
an official announcement.  I

1156
00:39:16,982 --> 00:39:20,619
mean, I don't know that the

1157
00:39:17,883 --> 00:39:21,653
significance of that is so great

1158
00:39:20,686 --> 00:39:23,321
I mean we're also concerned

1159
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,123
about our little piece of the

1160
00:39:23,388 --> 00:39:26,892
pie, but to have the entire pie,

1161
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:30,228
meaning california, drought

1162
00:39:26,959 --> 00:39:30,895
free, it's just unbelievable.

1163
00:39:30,295 --> 00:39:31,763
» anselmo collins:  absolutely

1164
00:39:30,962 --> 00:39:33,464
especially considering that just

1165
00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:35,567
four years ago we were at the

1166
00:39:33,531 --> 00:39:37,635
end of a multi-year drought.  So

1167
00:39:35,634 --> 00:39:39,170
as you can tell, as water

1168
00:39:37,702 --> 00:39:41,106
managers we have got to manage

1169
00:39:39,237 --> 00:39:42,941
when there is too much water and

1170
00:39:41,173 --> 00:39:44,709
also when there is not enough

1171
00:39:43,007 --> 00:39:46,311
water and in this case right now

1172
00:39:44,776 --> 00:39:47,345
we're doing well we hope to

1173
00:39:46,378 --> 00:39:50,682
continue with that.  And that

1174
00:39:47,412 --> 00:39:52,183
said also the department of

1175
00:39:50,749 --> 00:39:53,785
water resources, they also,

1176
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:55,520
every year, they provide

1177
00:39:53,852 --> 00:39:57,322
allocation of water for the

1178
00:39:55,587 --> 00:39:57,956
state water project contractors,

1179
00:39:57,389 --> 00:40:00,091
metropolitan water district,

1180
00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:01,693
which is our wholesaler, is a

1181
00:40:00,158 --> 00:40:02,794
state water project contractor,

1182
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,464
the state has announced

1183
00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:07,932
allocation of 10%.  That means

1184
00:40:06,531 --> 00:40:09,901
that metropolitan right now,

1185
00:40:07,999 --> 00:40:11,436
based on that, can get 10% of

1186
00:40:09,967 --> 00:40:12,871
the amount of water that they're

1187
00:40:11,503 --> 00:40:15,073
entitled to.  Now this number

1188
00:40:12,937 --> 00:40:16,774
tends to change, so as the

1189
00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:18,843
season progresses and we get

1190
00:40:16,841 --> 00:40:19,844
more snowpack and more

1191
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:21,145
precipitation, the state will

1192
00:40:19,911 --> 00:40:22,580
update that number.  So, the

1193
00:40:21,212 --> 00:40:24,649
hope is that by the time we get

1194
00:40:22,647 --> 00:40:27,719
to april, when is when we start

1195
00:40:24,715 --> 00:40:28,820
the runoff season, that we will

1196
00:40:27,786 --> 00:40:30,121
have a greater allocation

1197
00:40:28,887 --> 00:40:32,123
percentage, which is good news

1198
00:40:30,188 --> 00:40:34,025
for us because we do depend, not

1199
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:35,760
just on the la aqueduct, but

1200
00:40:34,092 --> 00:40:39,698
also on the state water project,

1201
00:40:35,827 --> 00:40:40,499
and the colorado river, via

1202
00:40:39,765 --> 00:40:42,867
metropolitan, to supply water to

1203
00:40:40,565 --> 00:40:46,504
the city of los angeles.  And

1204
00:40:42,934 --> 00:40:47,705
that's the end of my report for

1205
00:40:46,571 --> 00:40:52,177
water supply.

1206
00:40:47,772 --> 00:40:55,279
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  thanks.

1207
00:40:52,244 --> 00:40:56,881
dave hansen senior assistant

1208
00:40:55,346 --> 00:40:59,217
general manager for power

1209
00:40:56,948 --> 00:41:02,253
system.

1210
00:40:59,284 --> 00:41:04,256
» dave hanson:  thank you, joe.

1211
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,557
good morning commissioners in

1212
00:41:04,322 --> 00:41:10,295
december last year we joined

1213
00:41:06,624 --> 00:41:12,197
mayor bas council member

1214
00:41:10,362 --> 00:41:14,666
nassearrian and several dwp

1215
00:41:12,264 --> 00:41:17,168
staff and climate leadership to

1216
00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:18,669
celebrate is a large milestone

1217
00:41:17,235 --> 00:41:20,638
on our path to climate

1218
00:41:18,736 --> 00:41:23,875
leadership to celebrate a large

1219
00:41:20,705 --> 00:41:25,610
milestone on our path 100% clean

1220
00:41:23,942 --> 00:41:28,946
energy we're proud to share that

1221
00:41:25,677 --> 00:41:31,549
dwp is eliminated coal from our

1222
00:41:29,013 --> 00:41:34,118
power supply like to thank coal

1223
00:41:31,616 --> 00:41:35,020
for its many years of service.

1224
00:41:34,185 --> 00:41:37,288
[laughter]

1225
00:41:35,087 --> 00:41:38,790
on november 26th, 2025 we

1226
00:41:37,355 --> 00:41:41,058
received the last coal fueled

1227
00:41:38,857 --> 00:41:43,361
energy from utah's intermountain

1228
00:41:41,125 --> 00:41:45,196
power project refer to as ipp

1229
00:41:43,427 --> 00:41:48,032
which has been the final source

1230
00:41:45,263 --> 00:41:52,203
of coal in our portfolio since

1231
00:41:48,099 --> 00:41:53,938
2016 we utilize portfolio since

1232
00:41:52,270 --> 00:41:56,674
2016 we now utilize energy from

1233
00:41:54,005 --> 00:42:00,578
hydrogen capable generating

1234
00:41:56,741 --> 00:42:01,546
units recently constructed at ip

1235
00:42:00,645 --> 00:42:02,813
renewed those u noveltys

1236
00:42:01,613 --> 00:42:05,049
currently run on natural gas and

1237
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,786
are capable of running on fuel

1238
00:42:05,116 --> 00:42:09,287
blends of natural gas up to 30%

1239
00:42:07,853 --> 00:42:12,056
hydrogen with roadmap eventually

1240
00:42:09,354 --> 00:42:13,291
transitioning to 100% green

1241
00:42:12,123 --> 00:42:15,193
hydrogen as fuel source in the

1242
00:42:13,358 --> 00:42:17,662
near future we expect to add

1243
00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:19,931
hydrogen to the fuel mix in 2026

1244
00:42:17,729 --> 00:42:20,865
normally power would be

1245
00:42:19,998 --> 00:42:24,469
reporting performance during

1246
00:42:20,932 --> 00:42:26,104
winter storm outage but ol' viv

1247
00:42:24,536 --> 00:42:29,274
griffith will be covering that

1248
00:42:26,171 --> 00:42:32,077
today since we're activated for

1249
00:42:29,341 --> 00:42:33,878
emergency command this time

1250
00:42:32,144 --> 00:42:36,448
towards the end of the year

1251
00:42:33,945 --> 00:42:38,650
usually get requests for solar

1252
00:42:36,514 --> 00:42:40,551
incentive customer projects to

1253
00:42:38,717 --> 00:42:41,753
be energized.  We're thankful

1254
00:42:40,618 --> 00:42:44,255
for the group to be able to

1255
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:45,389
identify that issue and pivot

1256
00:42:44,322 --> 00:42:48,159
and handle before we became

1257
00:42:45,456 --> 00:42:53,131
aware of it at the executive

1258
00:42:48,226 --> 00:42:55,233
level.  Good job miel, john,

1259
00:42:53,198 --> 00:42:59,137
gary and the team.  Also power

1260
00:42:55,300 --> 00:43:01,272
system in the middle of power

1261
00:42:59,204 --> 00:43:02,740
reorganization kicked that off

1262
00:43:01,339 --> 00:43:05,610
monday engaged with korn ferry

1263
00:43:02,807 --> 00:43:07,111
as our consultants for the last

1264
00:43:05,677 --> 00:43:08,713
year looking at moving into

1265
00:43:07,178 --> 00:43:11,582
functional operating model

1266
00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:14,919
instead of siloed built on

1267
00:43:11,649 --> 00:43:16,721
classifications the power reorg

1268
00:43:14,986 --> 00:43:18,523
bulletin draft org chat going

1269
00:43:16,788 --> 00:43:21,993
out today by end of the month

1270
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:23,961
we'll put out the final bulletin

1271
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:26,931
final org chart share with all

1272
00:43:24,028 --> 00:43:29,167
the commissioners also palisades

1273
00:43:26,998 --> 00:43:30,501
relocated u rock that's our ford

1274
00:43:29,234 --> 00:43:32,637
operating base for operations

1275
00:43:30,568 --> 00:43:34,772
and coordinating collaboration

1276
00:43:32,704 --> 00:43:38,109
all other city departments in

1277
00:43:34,839 --> 00:43:40,344
construction now being relocated

1278
00:43:38,176 --> 00:43:42,380
from topanga state beach to

1279
00:43:40,411 --> 00:43:43,681
marquez elementary school

1280
00:43:42,447 --> 00:43:45,249
adjacent to property and we

1281
00:43:43,748 --> 00:43:48,786
anticipate that will be open at

1282
00:43:45,316 --> 00:43:49,253
the end of this month that's it.

1283
00:43:48,853 --> 00:43:49,887
thank you.

1284
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,257
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  thank

1285
00:43:49,954 --> 00:43:55,159
you dave a couple of items ladwp

1286
00:43:52,324 --> 00:43:58,930
was proud to cohost the winter

1287
00:43:55,226 --> 00:44:01,566
solstice ceremony on friday

1288
00:43:58,997 --> 00:44:02,600
december 19th fortunate to have

1289
00:44:01,633 --> 00:44:03,501
commissioners marks and

1290
00:44:02,667 --> 00:44:05,970
commissioner katz attend thank

1291
00:44:03,568 --> 00:44:09,273
you for going that was together

1292
00:44:06,037 --> 00:44:13,144
with fernandeno at that time

1293
00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:17,916
staffian band of mission indians

1294
00:44:13,211 --> 00:44:21,085
at chatsworth nature preserve, a

1295
00:44:17,983 --> 00:44:22,620
real gem in our water system and

1296
00:44:21,152 --> 00:44:26,658
community resource this

1297
00:44:22,687 --> 00:44:28,960
tradition began in 20215th year

1298
00:44:26,725 --> 00:44:32,530
of celebrating cultural heritage

1299
00:44:29,027 --> 00:44:33,798
this event honors ancestral

1300
00:44:32,597 --> 00:44:35,299
transitions promoting nature

1301
00:44:33,865 --> 00:44:36,334
preservation, it highlights our

1302
00:44:35,366 --> 00:44:38,035
commitment to protecting

1303
00:44:36,401 --> 00:44:39,604
sensitive habitats and engaging

1304
00:44:38,102 --> 00:44:41,372
the community and preserving

1305
00:44:39,671 --> 00:44:44,242
this unique natural space

1306
00:44:41,439 --> 00:44:46,211
together with our    partners

1307
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:47,979
from the band of mission

1308
00:44:46,278 --> 00:44:50,248
indians.  Next monday on

1309
00:44:48,046 --> 00:44:52,250
january 19th we will be proudly

1310
00:44:50,315 --> 00:44:55,653
participating in the 41st annual

1311
00:44:52,317 --> 00:44:57,322
dr. Martin luther king jr.

1312
00:44:55,720 --> 00:45:00,658
kingdom day parade in los

1313
00:44:57,389 --> 00:45:03,628
angeles the parade is organized

1314
00:45:00,725 --> 00:45:05,429
in our city to unite our city in

1315
00:45:03,695 --> 00:45:07,098
celebration of freedom equality

1316
00:45:05,496 --> 00:45:08,666
community empowerment our human

1317
00:45:07,165 --> 00:45:10,334
resources outreach recruitment

1318
00:45:08,733 --> 00:45:11,302
services division is

1319
00:45:10,401 --> 00:45:12,536
spearheading our participation

1320
00:45:11,369 --> 00:45:15,039
in the parade hoping you would

1321
00:45:12,603 --> 00:45:16,140
be able to join us for that we

1322
00:45:15,106 --> 00:45:17,708
have employees from our own

1323
00:45:16,207 --> 00:45:20,177
staff in addition to members of

1324
00:45:17,775 --> 00:45:22,613
our national society of black

1325
00:45:20,244 --> 00:45:23,648
engineers ladwp chapter will be

1326
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,883
participating pleased to have

1327
00:45:23,715 --> 00:45:27,652
family and friends together with

1328
00:45:24,949 --> 00:45:29,053
our ford lightening ev truck and

1329
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,688
ev bucket truck to demonstrate

1330
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,889
our commitment to inclusion and

1331
00:45:30,755 --> 00:45:33,224
equity and also promote jobs

1332
00:45:31,956 --> 00:45:34,792
here at the department looking

1333
00:45:33,291 --> 00:45:37,094
forward to that and welcome you

1334
00:45:34,859 --> 00:45:42,734
as well.  I would like to

1335
00:45:37,161 --> 00:45:44,569
introduce zoraya oliver griffin,

1336
00:45:42,801 --> 00:45:46,103
our chief environment emergency

1337
00:45:44,636 --> 00:45:47,304
management officer to provide

1338
00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:49,340
update on the winter storm we

1339
00:45:47,371 --> 00:45:52,777
had just prior to christmas and

1340
00:45:49,407 --> 00:45:54,111
also on our palisades one-year

1341
00:45:52,844 --> 00:46:02,387
after report.

1342
00:45:54,178 --> 00:46:04,221
» zoraya oliver-griffin:  good

1343
00:46:02,454 --> 00:46:06,123
morning commissioners.  As we

1344
00:46:04,288 --> 00:46:07,592
all lived through the holiday

1345
00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:10,494
storm we all know that los

1346
00:46:07,659 --> 00:46:12,863
angeles received a record

1347
00:46:10,561 --> 00:46:16,134
rainfall on christmas eve in

1348
00:46:12,930 --> 00:46:17,235
many areas field by a severe

1349
00:46:16,201 --> 00:46:19,870
atmospheric river which added to

1350
00:46:17,301 --> 00:46:21,506
the region's rain totals as we

1351
00:46:19,937 --> 00:46:22,840
heard from anselmo specifically

1352
00:46:21,573 --> 00:46:23,874
on christmas day and early

1353
00:46:22,907 --> 00:46:26,777
friday.  As a department we

1354
00:46:23,941 --> 00:46:28,546
decided to take a proactive

1355
00:46:26,844 --> 00:46:32,450
approach and prepared to quickly

1356
00:46:28,613 --> 00:46:34,819
and safely manage any forecasted

1357
00:46:32,517 --> 00:46:36,187
impacts as a result of the

1358
00:46:34,886 --> 00:46:37,388
atmospheric river which was

1359
00:46:36,254 --> 00:46:38,789
according to the national

1360
00:46:37,455 --> 00:46:40,758
weather service unprecedented

1361
00:46:38,856 --> 00:46:42,760
for our area this time of year

1362
00:46:40,825 --> 00:46:45,163
despite the additional challenge

1363
00:46:42,826 --> 00:46:47,965
of staffing during the christmas

1364
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:49,700
eve and christmas holiday based

1365
00:46:48,032 --> 00:46:51,168
on increasing risk reported by

1366
00:46:49,767 --> 00:46:53,471
the national weather service

1367
00:46:51,235 --> 00:46:55,139
including heavy rainfall along

1368
00:46:53,538 --> 00:46:58,376
with high potential for mud

1369
00:46:55,206 --> 00:47:00,311
slides, and believe it or not, a

1370
00:46:58,443 --> 00:47:03,348
tornado portably touching

1371
00:47:00,378 --> 00:47:03,882
ground, which it did, the

1372
00:47:03,415 --> 00:47:05,116
department of emergency

1373
00:47:03,948 --> 00:47:07,886
operation center activated well

1374
00:47:05,183 --> 00:47:13,524
in advance of the storm,

1375
00:47:07,952 --> 00:47:14,058
prepared for cross system

1376
00:47:13,591 --> 00:47:16,160
operational coordination

1377
00:47:14,124 --> 00:47:19,063
realtime situational awareness

1378
00:47:16,227 --> 00:47:19,997
monitoring and impact management

1379
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:22,633
proud to report that our

1380
00:47:20,064 --> 00:47:24,735
infrastructure both water and

1381
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:26,637
power performed well against the

1382
00:47:24,802 --> 00:47:28,539
storm with minimal impacts to

1383
00:47:26,704 --> 00:47:31,175
any of our service territory any

1384
00:47:28,606 --> 00:47:33,244
power and water system outages

1385
00:47:31,241 --> 00:47:34,545
were successfully addressed

1386
00:47:33,311 --> 00:47:37,915
relying on existing personnel

1387
00:47:34,612 --> 00:47:39,950
and resources within our normal

1388
00:47:37,982 --> 00:47:43,021
operations timelines at peak in

1389
00:47:40,017 --> 00:47:44,622
the we hours of december 24th

1390
00:47:43,087 --> 00:47:46,824
19,000 customers were affected

1391
00:47:44,689 --> 00:47:50,027
by power outages primarily as a

1392
00:47:46,891 --> 00:47:53,698
result of several inches of

1393
00:47:50,094 --> 00:47:54,932
rainfall, fallen palm fronds and

1394
00:47:53,765 --> 00:47:56,667
debris that came into contact

1395
00:47:54,999 --> 00:47:57,735
with our power lines and

1396
00:47:56,734 --> 00:48:00,271
equipment.  Also happy to report

1397
00:47:57,801 --> 00:48:02,673
that all power outages and power

1398
00:48:00,338 --> 00:48:04,275
service was restored well within

1399
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:06,877
48 hours a tremendous thank you

1400
00:48:04,342 --> 00:48:08,212
to all field personnel and

1401
00:48:06,944 --> 00:48:09,213
responders who worked tirelessly

1402
00:48:08,279 --> 00:48:12,083
in challenging conditions of

1403
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,417
rain and wind, taking time away

1404
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:15,453
from their loved ones during a

1405
00:48:13,484 --> 00:48:17,855
special holiday season to ensure

1406
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,490
not only a safe but a very quick

1407
00:48:17,922 --> 00:48:21,225
response to restore outages as

1408
00:48:19,557 --> 00:48:24,462
quickly as possible.  I would

1409
00:48:21,292 --> 00:48:27,765
also like to mention that this

1410
00:48:24,529 --> 00:48:30,902
doc activation culminated a

1411
00:48:27,832 --> 00:48:33,504
very.

1412
00:48:30,969 --> 00:48:36,841
[ buzzer ]

1413
00:48:33,571 --> 00:48:38,042
2025 for our emergency

1414
00:48:36,908 --> 00:48:39,910
response for the department for

1415
00:48:38,109 --> 00:48:42,413
a total 53 days of department

1416
00:48:39,977 --> 00:48:43,581
wide emergency response ranging

1417
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,949
from wildfires atmospheric

1418
00:48:43,648 --> 00:48:48,352
rivers and storms civil unrest

1419
00:48:45,016 --> 00:48:51,088
and extended water outage and

1420
00:48:48,419 --> 00:48:53,090
even tsunami warning so we had a

1421
00:48:51,155 --> 00:48:55,293
little bit across the entire

1422
00:48:53,157 --> 00:48:55,993
spectrum, waiting for a volcano

1423
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,260
to happen

1424
00:48:56,060 --> 00:48:57,895
[laughter]

1425
00:48:56,327 --> 00:49:00,264
but you know let's keep it at

1426
00:48:57,962 --> 00:49:01,498
bay for a while regardless I

1427
00:49:00,331 --> 00:49:02,766
want to assure each and every

1428
00:49:01,565 --> 00:49:05,470
one of you that the department

1429
00:49:02,833 --> 00:49:06,638
as a whole is very well prepared

1430
00:49:05,537 --> 00:49:08,973
for any emergency or natural

1431
00:49:06,704 --> 00:49:15,947
disaster that we may face in

1432
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:18,549
2026 or moving forward.

1433
00:49:16,014 --> 00:49:20,351
next overview of our palisades

1434
00:49:18,616 --> 00:49:23,220
report.  Last week we passed a

1435
00:49:20,418 --> 00:49:25,423
very sobering milestone for our

1436
00:49:23,287 --> 00:49:27,925
-- for our city.  With the

1437
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:31,262
one-year anniversary of the

1438
00:49:27,992 --> 00:49:32,663
start of the tragic wind-driven

1439
00:49:31,329 --> 00:49:33,965
palisades fire, nothing --

1440
00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:37,234
absolutely nothing can reverse

1441
00:49:34,032 --> 00:49:38,769
this tragedy, but I assure you,

1442
00:49:37,301 --> 00:49:40,404
we have spent the last year

1443
00:49:38,836 --> 00:49:41,805
doing everything that we

1444
00:49:40,471 --> 00:49:44,108
possibly can to help the

1445
00:49:41,872 --> 00:49:46,944
palisades community to rebuild,

1446
00:49:44,174 --> 00:49:49,179
and also help make los angeles

1447
00:49:47,011 --> 00:49:50,214
more resilient.  Last week we

1448
00:49:49,246 --> 00:49:52,049
published our report detailing

1449
00:49:50,281 --> 00:49:53,617
all we have done over the past

1450
00:49:52,116 --> 00:49:56,687
year to support our palisades

1451
00:49:53,684 --> 00:49:59,323
customers and the community, as

1452
00:49:56,754 --> 00:50:02,226
well.  The report a summary of

1453
00:49:59,390 --> 00:50:04,061
all efforts which focuses on how

1454
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:05,462
ladwp led efforts and deployed

1455
00:50:04,128 --> 00:50:06,263
resources early and quickly to

1456
00:50:05,529 --> 00:50:08,098
support recovery for the

1457
00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:09,300
palisades community, the

1458
00:50:08,165 --> 00:50:10,267
strengthening of -- and

1459
00:50:09,367 --> 00:50:12,169
reliability of our water and

1460
00:50:10,334 --> 00:50:13,637
power systems, the things that

1461
00:50:12,236 --> 00:50:16,774
we're currently do to protect

1462
00:50:13,704 --> 00:50:18,209
our systems against ongoing

1463
00:50:16,841 --> 00:50:19,577
climate threats, our advancement

1464
00:50:18,276 --> 00:50:23,848
of partnerships to improve

1465
00:50:19,644 --> 00:50:26,684
climate resiliency and, finally,

1466
00:50:23,915 --> 00:50:28,118
leveraging all funding

1467
00:50:26,751 --> 00:50:30,521
opportunity paths to recover --

1468
00:50:28,185 --> 00:50:35,192
to recovery and resiliency.

1469
00:50:30,588 --> 00:50:35,859
that report is available at

1470
00:50:35,259 --> 00:50:38,296
ladwp.com/palisades for any one

1471
00:50:35,926 --> 00:50:39,730
of our customers or the public

1472
00:50:38,363 --> 00:50:40,431
that would like to refer to it.

1473
00:50:39,797 --> 00:50:42,099
» com. Wilma pinder:  buffer go

1474
00:50:40,497 --> 00:50:44,669
I want to be clear on something.

1475
00:50:42,166 --> 00:50:47,104
because if I was just a citizen

1476
00:50:44,736 --> 00:50:49,773
at home listening, usually when

1477
00:50:47,171 --> 00:50:53,778
we use the word rebuild, many

1478
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,946
people think of that as some

1479
00:50:53,845 --> 00:50:56,814
financial aid or money that we

1480
00:50:55,013 --> 00:51:00,651
make available.  When you use

1481
00:50:56,881 --> 00:51:03,220
the term rebuild, you are not

1482
00:51:00,718 --> 00:51:05,823
referring to dwp helping in a

1483
00:51:03,287 --> 00:51:07,725
funeral way with individual

1484
00:51:05,889 --> 00:51:08,459
homeowners, were you?

1485
00:51:07,792 --> 00:51:10,394
» zoraya oliver-griffin:  that

1486
00:51:08,526 --> 00:51:11,662
is correct.  Referring to

1487
00:51:10,461 --> 00:51:12,296
rebuilding of our water and

1488
00:51:11,729 --> 00:51:13,564
power infrastructure.

1489
00:51:12,363 --> 00:51:16,067
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  but I do

1490
00:51:13,631 --> 00:51:17,034
want to add that with respect to

1491
00:51:16,134 --> 00:51:18,502
customers and providing that

1492
00:51:17,101 --> 00:51:19,937
assistance we did not bill for

1493
00:51:18,569 --> 00:51:21,372
any water use for a significant

1494
00:51:20,004 --> 00:51:23,240
period of months following

1495
00:51:21,438 --> 00:51:24,775
because of the tragedy and the

1496
00:51:23,307 --> 00:51:26,243
loss and the inability of

1497
00:51:24,842 --> 00:51:28,746
actually accurately measure the

1498
00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:30,848
amount of water that was used by

1499
00:51:28,813 --> 00:51:33,117
customers whose homes were

1500
00:51:30,915 --> 00:51:34,952
destroyed or whose customers

1501
00:51:33,184 --> 00:51:37,388
whose homes were not destroyed

1502
00:51:35,019 --> 00:51:39,690
so that was a significant help

1503
00:51:37,455 --> 00:51:41,525
in addition we have extended

1504
00:51:39,757 --> 00:51:43,894
repayment plans for customers,

1505
00:51:41,592 --> 00:51:46,130
repayment plans and also we're

1506
00:51:43,961 --> 00:51:48,366
not doing collections through

1507
00:51:46,197 --> 00:51:49,400
june 30th of this year.  We're

1508
00:51:48,433 --> 00:51:50,901
doing everything we can to

1509
00:51:49,467 --> 00:51:53,270
assist them with financially

1510
00:51:50,968 --> 00:51:54,805
even though it doesn't include

1511
00:51:53,337 --> 00:51:56,106
direct financial support toward

1512
00:51:54,872 --> 00:51:56,807
rebuilding homes.

1513
00:51:56,173 --> 00:51:59,043
» com. Wilma pinder:  I'm very

1514
00:51:56,874 --> 00:52:01,779
glad you restated that because

1515
00:51:59,110 --> 00:52:03,080
that's very important point I

1516
00:52:01,846 --> 00:52:04,948
remember at the beginning when

1517
00:52:03,147 --> 00:52:07,551
dwp made that advisement.  So

1518
00:52:05,015 --> 00:52:09,253
thank you joe for saying that I

1519
00:52:07,618 --> 00:52:10,521
didn't want anyone hearing the

1520
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,823
remarks thinking that somehow we

1521
00:52:10,588 --> 00:52:16,060
were in a sense providing money

1522
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:17,761
for building.  And I know that

1523
00:52:16,127 --> 00:52:20,831
dwp has extended itself to the

1524
00:52:17,828 --> 00:52:23,467
residents in any way that it can

1525
00:52:20,898 --> 00:52:26,203
to anything that we can do that

1526
00:52:23,533 --> 00:52:27,672
is a direct role from us to save

1527
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:28,906
them, like you said, being

1528
00:52:27,738 --> 00:52:30,007
billion dollar for something,

1529
00:52:28,973 --> 00:52:32,043
anything we can clear that is

1530
00:52:30,074 --> 00:52:35,012
within our range to handle.  So,

1531
00:52:32,110 --> 00:52:37,615
thank you for restating that.

1532
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:38,315
and thank you and excuse me for

1533
00:52:37,682 --> 00:52:39,316
interrupting you.

1534
00:52:38,382 --> 00:52:41,252
» zoraya oliver-griffin:  no.  I

1535
00:52:39,383 --> 00:52:43,087
appreciate you raising the

1536
00:52:41,319 --> 00:52:44,888
clarification.  You know, I also

1537
00:52:43,154 --> 00:52:45,890
would be remiss if I didn't

1538
00:52:44,955 --> 00:52:48,759
mention and speak on behalf of

1539
00:52:45,956 --> 00:52:51,562
the four executives, dave,

1540
00:52:48,826 --> 00:52:55,399
anselmo, joe, and I, that are

1541
00:52:51,629 --> 00:52:55,966
very committed and working very

1542
00:52:55,466 --> 00:52:57,468
closely with the palisades

1543
00:52:56,033 --> 00:52:58,902
community to ensure that, you

1544
00:52:57,535 --> 00:53:00,671
know, we meet and support their

1545
00:52:58,969 --> 00:53:04,208
needs in a way that is relevant

1546
00:53:00,738 --> 00:53:06,643
to them.  So, we are very

1547
00:53:04,275 --> 00:53:09,146
committed to working with them

1548
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:10,114
so that they help us shape how

1549
00:53:09,213 --> 00:53:12,917
we're going to proceed with our

1550
00:53:10,181 --> 00:53:15,519
work in the palisades.  So, it's

1551
00:53:12,984 --> 00:53:16,987
become being a true genuine

1552
00:53:15,586 --> 00:53:18,689
partnership.  So, a lot of times

1553
00:53:17,054 --> 00:53:21,892
they may not like what we have

1554
00:53:18,756 --> 00:53:23,093
to say, but the four of us are

1555
00:53:21,959 --> 00:53:24,261
very committed to being

1556
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,963
transparent and providing the

1557
00:53:24,328 --> 00:53:28,365
information when we have it, you

1558
00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:30,033
know, to the degree that we're

1559
00:53:28,432 --> 00:53:31,502
able to provide it.  Okay.

1560
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:35,539
thank you.  And that is the end

1561
00:53:31,569 --> 00:53:37,408
of my report for today.

1562
00:53:35,606 --> 00:53:38,042
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

1563
00:53:37,475 --> 00:53:44,014
» >>joseph m. Ramallo:  thank

1564
00:53:38,109 --> 00:53:46,517
you zoraya.

1565
00:53:44,081 --> 00:53:47,384
» nurit katz:  may I comment on

1566
00:53:46,584 --> 00:53:48,586
the report?

1567
00:53:47,451 --> 00:53:49,253
» com. Wilma pinder:  sure.

1568
00:53:48,653 --> 00:53:50,587
» nurit katz:  thank you I just

1569
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,022
want to take a moment to

1570
00:53:50,654 --> 00:53:53,757
acknowledge that this is our

1571
00:53:52,089 --> 00:53:55,592
first board meeting and so soon

1572
00:53:53,824 --> 00:53:57,961
after the one year anniversary

1573
00:53:55,659 --> 00:53:59,330
like many of you and many

1574
00:53:58,028 --> 00:54:01,565
angelenos I had friends and

1575
00:53:59,397 --> 00:54:03,534
family impacted by the fires in

1576
00:54:01,632 --> 00:54:05,669
2025 both the palisades fire

1577
00:54:03,601 --> 00:54:07,471
here in the city of los angeles

1578
00:54:05,736 --> 00:54:09,573
and also the eighth on fire and

1579
00:54:07,538 --> 00:54:11,708
I know many of our employees did

1580
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,676
as well some of our employees

1581
00:54:11,775 --> 00:54:14,178
lost homes directly or were

1582
00:54:12,743 --> 00:54:15,712
otherwise impacted by the fire

1583
00:54:14,245 --> 00:54:18,415
and I remember a year ago that

1584
00:54:15,779 --> 00:54:20,250
some of those employees were at

1585
00:54:18,482 --> 00:54:22,252
work the very next day despite

1586
00:54:20,317 --> 00:54:23,354
having lost their homes and

1587
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:25,923
participating in the helping the

1588
00:54:23,421 --> 00:54:27,291
city in this time of crisis.  I

1589
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:28,692
want to take a moment to

1590
00:54:27,357 --> 00:54:30,227
acknowledge really all of our

1591
00:54:28,759 --> 00:54:32,796
staff and all our employees who

1592
00:54:30,294 --> 00:54:34,231
have been engaged in that time

1593
00:54:32,863 --> 00:54:37,668
of crisis and since then your

1594
00:54:34,298 --> 00:54:39,269
service is really inspiring and

1595
00:54:37,735 --> 00:54:41,171
incredible president katz would

1596
00:54:39,336 --> 00:54:42,806
often refer to dwp as first

1597
00:54:41,238 --> 00:54:44,508
responders and I want to echo

1598
00:54:42,873 --> 00:54:46,043
that and especially when it came

1599
00:54:44,575 --> 00:54:47,812
to the 2025 fire.  It's amazing

1600
00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:49,113
to reflect back on this year and

1601
00:54:47,879 --> 00:54:50,848
look at everything that this

1602
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:52,283
department has done from

1603
00:54:50,915 --> 00:54:54,117
restoring water at record speed,

1604
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:56,854
water service to continuing to

1605
00:54:54,184 --> 00:54:59,990
advocate for fema funding, and

1606
00:54:56,921 --> 00:55:01,258
working on the rebuild,

1607
00:55:00,057 --> 00:55:02,826
providing a good source of

1608
00:55:01,325 --> 00:55:03,895
interaction for the community to

1609
00:55:02,893 --> 00:55:06,964
get all their questions answered

1610
00:55:03,961 --> 00:55:09,533
at the u rock, and I'm glad to

1611
00:55:07,031 --> 00:55:12,069
hear that movement is underway.

1612
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:15,439
so thank you for that.  We don't

1613
00:55:12,136 --> 00:55:18,675
get to plan on emergencies so I

1614
00:55:15,506 --> 00:55:19,710
want to acknowledge zoraya, the

1615
00:55:18,742 --> 00:55:22,212
whole team that was involved in

1616
00:55:19,776 --> 00:55:24,148
the department eoc on christmas

1617
00:55:22,279 --> 00:55:26,216
a holiday that I'm sure many

1618
00:55:24,214 --> 00:55:27,418
would have liked to be

1619
00:55:26,283 --> 00:55:30,254
celebrating with families so to

1620
00:55:27,484 --> 00:55:31,388
be activated in emergency

1621
00:55:30,321 --> 00:55:32,623
operations we really protected

1622
00:55:31,455 --> 00:55:33,624
your eye on the storm and

1623
00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:35,459
ensuring that power and water

1624
00:55:33,691 --> 00:55:37,661
were restored quickly.  Lastly I

1625
00:55:35,526 --> 00:55:39,997
want to note that although the

1626
00:55:37,728 --> 00:55:42,032
state is, for the first time in

1627
00:55:40,064 --> 00:55:43,133
many years, out of the drought

1628
00:55:42,099 --> 00:55:44,768
for the moment, that with

1629
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,704
climate change we have really

1630
00:55:44,835 --> 00:55:48,839
seen a whiplash so we know we're

1631
00:55:46,771 --> 00:55:50,374
going to have these wet years

1632
00:55:48,906 --> 00:55:53,844
and very dry years I want to

1633
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:56,046
encourage all angelenos to keep

1634
00:55:53,911 --> 00:55:58,048
your eye on water conservation

1635
00:55:56,113 --> 00:55:59,182
just because r because we're out

1636
00:55:58,115 --> 00:56:00,951
of a drought for the moment

1637
00:55:59,249 --> 00:56:02,419
doesn't mean california doesn't

1638
00:56:01,018 --> 00:56:04,121
have serious water supply

1639
00:56:02,486 --> 00:56:05,823
challenges ahead so please

1640
00:56:04,188 --> 00:56:07,858
continue to take advantage of

1641
00:56:05,889 --> 00:56:09,092
the now increasing tougher

1642
00:56:07,925 --> 00:56:10,327
replacement program the leap

1643
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,462
program for low-income families

1644
00:56:10,394 --> 00:56:13,364
to have free landscape

1645
00:56:12,529 --> 00:56:16,033
replacement and other water

1646
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:17,567
saving measures.  It's a big

1647
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:18,936
deal dwp has transitioned away

1648
00:56:17,634 --> 00:56:21,338
from coal so thank you for

1649
00:56:19,003 --> 00:56:22,472
mentioning that, dave, and we

1650
00:56:21,405 --> 00:56:24,408
will continue to push forward

1651
00:56:22,539 --> 00:56:25,742
towards clean energy and all the

1652
00:56:24,475 --> 00:56:26,910
different ways that we can

1653
00:56:25,809 --> 00:56:29,146
address climate change and also

1654
00:56:26,977 --> 00:56:32,182
climate resiliency.  So thank

1655
00:56:29,213 --> 00:56:32,683
you very much for these reports

1656
00:56:32,249 --> 00:56:33,351
today.

1657
00:56:32,750 --> 00:56:36,353
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

1658
00:56:33,417 --> 00:56:39,756
I wish I had included this under

1659
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:44,261
my general remarks, but I'm

1660
00:56:39,823 --> 00:56:46,563
going to put it in right now

1661
00:56:44,328 --> 00:56:48,198
before I move to the ratepayer

1662
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:49,934
if you will allow me.

1663
00:56:48,265 --> 00:56:51,969
we have had general counsel here

1664
00:56:50,001 --> 00:56:54,839
at all times, you often possibly

1665
00:56:52,036 --> 00:56:56,373
don't pay any attention, but we

1666
00:56:54,905 --> 00:56:58,275
have someone who is, before we

1667
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,944
come to a meeting, things have

1668
00:56:58,342 --> 00:57:03,847
been screened in a legal way so

1669
00:57:01,011 --> 00:57:06,116
that we do not inadvertently

1670
00:57:03,914 --> 00:57:08,352
misstep or make a legal decision

1671
00:57:06,183 --> 00:57:09,586
or action that could have

1672
00:57:08,419 --> 00:57:13,890
repercussions.  So, always, at

1673
00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:15,525
the end of our circle, we have

1674
00:57:13,957 --> 00:57:16,494
our general counsel for the

1675
00:57:15,592 --> 00:57:19,830
department of water and power

1676
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:23,133
board of commissioners with us.

1677
00:57:19,897 --> 00:57:25,202
the dwp has its own legal

1678
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,872
section, not in this building,

1679
00:57:25,269 --> 00:57:30,140
but in another building.  In

1680
00:57:27,938 --> 00:57:32,376
fact we used to, when I was

1681
00:57:30,207 --> 00:57:34,478
here, on the 15th floor, and

1682
00:57:32,443 --> 00:57:36,013
they moved us to another floor,

1683
00:57:34,545 --> 00:57:38,015
and eventually they moved the

1684
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,817
whole legal team out of this

1685
00:57:38,082 --> 00:57:44,955
building.  But there are lawyers

1686
00:57:39,884 --> 00:57:45,989
that are dedicated just to l

1687
00:57:45,022 --> 00:57:48,425
ladwp, who are city employees.

1688
00:57:46,056 --> 00:57:52,229
and those people are here to

1689
00:57:48,492 --> 00:57:55,832
advise on the contracts, they're

1690
00:57:52,296 --> 00:58:00,204
to advise the attorneys, I said

1691
00:57:55,899 --> 00:58:03,140
attorneys -- commissioners, on

1692
00:58:00,271 --> 00:58:04,207
what we're doing.  So ben

1693
00:58:03,207 --> 00:58:06,209
chapman kind of got away before

1694
00:58:04,274 --> 00:58:07,911
many of you who are regulars

1695
00:58:06,276 --> 00:58:09,947
here or who tune in regularly,

1696
00:58:07,978 --> 00:58:12,349
was acknowledged as fully as he

1697
00:58:10,013 --> 00:58:18,021
could have been.  But someone

1698
00:58:12,416 --> 00:58:20,357
has stapedes  -- stepped in,

1699
00:58:18,088 --> 00:58:23,193
because the city attorney's

1700
00:58:20,424 --> 00:58:26,530
office has capable attorneys

1701
00:58:23,260 --> 00:58:29,033
people send to take who are

1702
00:58:26,597 --> 00:58:31,702
government employees for granted

1703
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,302
where all of the dwp people are

1704
00:58:31,769 --> 00:58:34,037
government employees they're

1705
00:58:32,369 --> 00:58:36,707
keeping the lights on and water

1706
00:58:34,104 --> 00:58:39,709
flowing so we don't want people

1707
00:58:36,774 --> 00:58:41,645
in little boxes and little

1708
00:58:39,776 --> 00:58:42,980
places and diminish what they do

1709
00:58:41,712 --> 00:58:46,150
in their life for all of us so

1710
00:58:43,046 --> 00:58:47,751
with that said I don't want to

1711
00:58:46,216 --> 00:58:49,920
introduce you myself miss florez

1712
00:58:47,818 --> 00:58:51,788
but I would love for you to tell

1713
00:58:49,987 --> 00:58:54,258
us not only your name, what you

1714
00:58:51,855 --> 00:58:55,626
do and how you assist the

1715
00:58:54,325 --> 00:58:56,026
commission.  Will you do that

1716
00:58:55,693 --> 00:58:57,460
please?

1717
00:58:56,126 --> 00:58:59,396
» speaker:  certainly.  Thank

1718
00:58:57,527 --> 00:59:00,630
you for the nice introduction of

1719
00:58:59,463 --> 00:59:03,400
our whole office, office of the

1720
00:59:00,697 --> 00:59:06,303
city attorney, I am the chief

1721
00:59:03,466 --> 00:59:09,306
deputy city attorney and am

1722
00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:10,774
filling in, in an interim role

1723
00:59:09,373 --> 00:59:13,043
as general counsel for dwp given

1724
00:59:10,841 --> 00:59:15,646
how much is going on here, and

1725
00:59:13,110 --> 00:59:17,815
the unexpected retirement of the

1726
00:59:15,713 --> 00:59:20,784
former general counsel ben

1727
00:59:17,882 --> 00:59:23,721
chapman.  I'm here, and our

1728
00:59:20,851 --> 00:59:25,622
whole office is here to provide

1729
00:59:23,787 --> 00:59:28,192
legal support and guidance, you

1730
00:59:25,689 --> 00:59:30,427
can call upon us at any time and

1731
00:59:28,259 --> 00:59:33,130
we're happy to help out.  I am a

1732
00:59:30,494 --> 00:59:35,498
23 year veteran of the city

1733
00:59:33,197 --> 00:59:39,036
attorney's office.  I started my

1734
00:59:35,565 --> 00:59:40,237
career in big law, was a trial

1735
00:59:39,103 --> 00:59:42,272
lawyer, and then came over to

1736
00:59:40,303 --> 00:59:44,374
the city.  It's been the best

1737
00:59:42,339 --> 00:59:46,576
legal decision I ever made.

1738
00:59:44,441 --> 00:59:49,646
it's been a great job.  I was

1739
00:59:46,643 --> 00:59:53,316
born in la, both parents were

1740
00:59:49,713 --> 00:59:55,519
city employees.  So, this is my

1741
00:59:53,383 --> 00:59:58,188
mission in life to make sure

1742
00:59:55,586 --> 00:59:59,123
that the city prospers and

1743
00:59:58,255 --> 01:00:01,658
conducts its business legally

1744
00:59:59,189 --> 01:00:02,927
and effectively.  We want to

1745
01:00:01,725 --> 01:00:05,929
make sure the whole office of

1746
01:00:02,993 --> 01:00:09,533
the city attorney wants to make

1747
01:00:05,996 --> 01:00:13,604
sure that our clients meet their

1748
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,571
goals and we're here to help you

1749
01:00:13,671 --> 01:00:15,372
do that so, thank you.

1750
01:00:14,638 --> 01:00:16,640
» com. Wilma pinder:  well, I

1751
01:00:15,439 --> 01:00:18,475
appreciate you, just on the

1752
01:00:16,707 --> 01:00:20,144
spot, because I didn't tell you

1753
01:00:18,542 --> 01:00:24,047
I would do that I just sat there

1754
01:00:20,211 --> 01:00:26,583
and I looked.  And I know --

1755
01:00:24,114 --> 01:00:29,386
now, she sounded all nice and

1756
01:00:26,650 --> 01:00:32,022
sweet when she said that, now,

1757
01:00:29,453 --> 01:00:34,424
that lady is a land slapper, she

1758
01:00:32,089 --> 01:00:36,126
will get -- they make you course

1759
01:00:34,491 --> 01:00:40,197
correct very quickly.  It's not

1760
01:00:36,193 --> 01:00:42,032
all smiles.  And many times we

1761
01:00:40,264 --> 01:00:43,834
retire from you and we go into

1762
01:00:42,099 --> 01:00:45,936
closed session and those are the

1763
01:00:43,901 --> 01:00:47,070
matters that the charter

1764
01:00:46,003 --> 01:00:48,539
mandates that we only talk

1765
01:00:47,137 --> 01:00:50,874
offrecord with our attorney.  We

1766
01:00:48,606 --> 01:00:52,776
list those cases that are in

1767
01:00:50,941 --> 01:00:54,278
litigation, you can go and look

1768
01:00:52,843 --> 01:00:56,079
them up yourselves, but we do

1769
01:00:54,344 --> 01:00:58,715
not discuss them in front of

1770
01:00:56,146 --> 01:00:59,716
you.  But when we go into closed

1771
01:00:58,782 --> 01:01:02,853
session, we have the city

1772
01:00:59,783 --> 01:01:04,788
attorney's office there.  We are

1773
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,657
a check and balance.  We comment

1774
01:01:04,855 --> 01:01:10,026
on the cases that they have, or

1775
01:01:07,724 --> 01:01:11,728
how much -- how much risk do we

1776
01:01:10,093 --> 01:01:12,862
have if we go forward with a

1777
01:01:11,795 --> 01:01:14,831
matter.  So, this is -- I want

1778
01:01:12,929 --> 01:01:16,900
you to really get the sense that

1779
01:01:14,898 --> 01:01:19,436
this is not just a stagnant

1780
01:01:16,967 --> 01:01:22,405
thing here.  I noticed, and it

1781
01:01:19,503 --> 01:01:25,408
was new to me, dwp people call

1782
01:01:22,472 --> 01:01:27,911
everybody by their first name.

1783
01:01:25,475 --> 01:01:29,146
so, it's -- it's -- seems

1784
01:01:27,978 --> 01:01:32,716
informal seems like everybody

1785
01:01:29,213 --> 01:01:34,718
is, you know, brother, sister,

1786
01:01:32,783 --> 01:01:36,853
lovey dovey, but people here are

1787
01:01:34,785 --> 01:01:39,790
check mates of each other.  And

1788
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,125
while they try to do it with a

1789
01:01:39,857 --> 01:01:42,826
smile, they do hold people to

1790
01:01:41,191 --> 01:01:44,795
follow what is correct, and that

1791
01:01:42,893 --> 01:01:47,430
goes for not only just the

1792
01:01:44,861 --> 01:01:48,665
commissioners, it goes for

1793
01:01:47,497 --> 01:01:51,068
people here who have title

1794
01:01:48,732 --> 01:01:52,869
underneath them.  They have to

1795
01:01:51,135 --> 01:01:54,070
keep those people in the right

1796
01:01:52,936 --> 01:01:56,173
line, but they still allow a

1797
01:01:54,137 --> 01:01:57,907
flow of information.  So, I move

1798
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,643
to say all of this today because

1799
01:01:57,974 --> 01:02:02,579
I happen to have the mic, and

1800
01:01:59,710 --> 01:02:05,548
I'm able to say it today.  But

1801
01:02:02,646 --> 01:02:07,918
it's just donning on me, it's

1802
01:02:05,615 --> 01:02:10,920
just donning on me, how involved

1803
01:02:07,985 --> 01:02:13,123
this is.  And maybe that's even

1804
01:02:10,987 --> 01:02:14,824
why we ends up with a shift of

1805
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:16,159
people.  It's a lot to ask, even

1806
01:02:14,891 --> 01:02:17,694
the people who are getting paid,

1807
01:02:16,226 --> 01:02:20,364
and I want to remind you, we're

1808
01:02:17,761 --> 01:02:22,065
not getting paid.  And there are

1809
01:02:20,431 --> 01:02:25,168
people who are -- and we're used

1810
01:02:22,132 --> 01:02:26,770
to making big decisions

1811
01:02:25,235 --> 01:02:28,805
ourselves.  I know my colleagues

1812
01:02:26,837 --> 01:02:32,876
here, they still work.  I happen

1813
01:02:28,872 --> 01:02:34,378
to be retired, but be that as it

1814
01:02:32,943 --> 01:02:36,046
may, if we are away from

1815
01:02:34,445 --> 01:02:37,447
whatever we're doing, our

1816
01:02:36,113 --> 01:02:38,848
family, our work, et cetera, we

1817
01:02:37,514 --> 01:02:42,152
all are committed to this.  And

1818
01:02:38,915 --> 01:02:43,453
the commissioners, we wouldn't

1819
01:02:42,219 --> 01:02:45,822
want to work here -- wrong word

1820
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,459
-- we wouldn't want to volunteer

1821
01:02:45,889 --> 01:02:51,661
here if we did not feel that our

1822
01:02:49,526 --> 01:02:54,964
time was appreciated.  But the

1823
01:02:51,728 --> 01:02:56,733
people keep us in check too.

1824
01:02:55,031 --> 01:02:59,236
commissioner pinder, you can't

1825
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,837
do that, you can't say that, you

1826
01:02:59,303 --> 01:03:02,372
can't do that, so, we follow

1827
01:03:00,904 --> 01:03:03,674
those.  And I want you to know

1828
01:03:02,439 --> 01:03:05,275
it starts with the city

1829
01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:06,409
attorney's office that's located

1830
01:03:05,342 --> 01:03:08,044
in the city hall east building

1831
01:03:06,476 --> 01:03:10,313
and it's here with our council,

1832
01:03:08,111 --> 01:03:13,450
as well.  So, and I don't know

1833
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:14,851
even if our two new

1834
01:03:13,517 --> 01:03:17,487
commissioners who I'll probably

1835
01:03:14,918 --> 01:03:19,689
may never say this again, you

1836
01:03:17,554 --> 01:03:21,725
better watch your toes because

1837
01:03:19,756 --> 01:03:22,693
these people aren't playing.

1838
01:03:21,792 --> 01:03:24,227
» nurit katz:  and commissioner

1839
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:30,333
pinder I have to say because you

1840
01:03:24,294 --> 01:03:35,071
are always so humble with your

1841
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,872
own background, commissioner

1842
01:03:35,138 --> 01:03:37,107
pinder is speaking from

1843
01:03:35,939 --> 01:03:38,241
experience 30 years of service

1844
01:03:37,174 --> 01:03:40,510
in the city attorney's office

1845
01:03:38,308 --> 01:03:42,913
and 20 of those serving ladwp so

1846
01:03:40,577 --> 01:03:44,381
we're lucky to have your

1847
01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:46,550
expertises on the commission as

1848
01:03:44,448 --> 01:03:49,419
an extra set of legalized

1849
01:03:46,617 --> 01:03:54,124
everything that you bring thank

1850
01:03:49,485 --> 01:03:55,658
you for that wilma.

1851
01:03:54,191 --> 01:03:58,128
» nurit katz:  you're very kind

1852
01:03:55,725 --> 01:04:01,631
next item another agency that

1853
01:03:58,195 --> 01:04:06,803
keeps us on our toes ratepayer

1854
01:04:01,698 --> 01:04:07,804
advocate item g on the agenda.

1855
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:08,939
» tim o'connor:  thank you

1856
01:04:07,871 --> 01:04:12,042
commissioner pinder.  Good

1857
01:04:09,006 --> 01:04:14,244
morning and welcome commissioner

1858
01:04:12,109 --> 01:04:15,545
marks, trance, nice to see you

1859
01:04:14,311 --> 01:04:18,115
here in your first meeting after

1860
01:04:15,612 --> 01:04:19,616
having been confirmed my name is

1861
01:04:18,182 --> 01:04:21,885
tim o I'm the ratepayer advocate

1862
01:04:19,683 --> 01:04:24,855
I would like to recognize joined

1863
01:04:21,952 --> 01:04:30,894
with me today by another member

1864
01:04:24,922 --> 01:04:32,762
of my team joe coko, if you

1865
01:04:30,961 --> 01:04:35,298
might stand up a leader in our

1866
01:04:32,829 --> 01:04:35,865
office focused on daily analysis

1867
01:04:35,365 --> 01:04:37,934
customer program analysis

1868
01:04:35,932 --> 01:04:38,635
affordability joe brings a long

1869
01:04:38,001 --> 01:04:42,772
line of experience in

1870
01:04:38,702 --> 01:04:46,476
examination of these issues on

1871
01:04:42,839 --> 01:04:48,077
behalf of ratepayers he'll be

1872
01:04:46,543 --> 01:04:51,181
working with me my team upcoming

1873
01:04:48,144 --> 01:04:54,351
analysis which you will be

1874
01:04:51,248 --> 01:04:55,418
seeing as well as forward basis

1875
01:04:54,418 --> 01:04:57,687
in support of analysis on filed

1876
01:04:55,485 --> 01:04:59,556
items I would like to direct

1877
01:04:57,754 --> 01:05:00,591
your attention as well members

1878
01:04:59,622 --> 01:05:03,059
of the public to written

1879
01:05:00,657 --> 01:05:08,198
comments that we filed with the

1880
01:05:03,126 --> 01:05:09,566
commission on filed items 8, 13,

1881
01:05:08,265 --> 01:05:11,701
16, 17, those were as well filed

1882
01:05:09,633 --> 01:05:13,269
items 7 and 8 you should have a

1883
01:05:11,768 --> 01:05:15,739
copy of our written comment

1884
01:05:13,336 --> 01:05:16,907
before you in addition opa

1885
01:05:15,806 --> 01:05:18,174
reviewed all items submitted to

1886
01:05:16,973 --> 01:05:20,177
the board via the public web

1887
01:05:18,241 --> 01:05:24,848
site and met with staff on items

1888
01:05:20,244 --> 01:05:30,287
for approval today before you on

1889
01:05:24,915 --> 01:05:31,354
5, 6, 7, 9, 15, 18, and 23,

1890
01:05:30,353 --> 01:05:34,257
we're not providing written

1891
01:05:31,421 --> 01:05:34,858
comments on those but have

1892
01:05:34,324 --> 01:05:36,460
evaluated the information

1893
01:05:34,925 --> 01:05:38,695
associated with those as well as

1894
01:05:36,527 --> 01:05:39,662
all filed items that have been

1895
01:05:38,762 --> 01:05:41,231
submitted to the commission

1896
01:05:39,729 --> 01:05:44,767
leadership to the board.  The --

1897
01:05:41,298 --> 01:05:47,471
I would like to say that in

1898
01:05:44,834 --> 01:05:50,340
meeting with staff on all of

1899
01:05:47,538 --> 01:05:52,909
these items, I would be remiss

1900
01:05:50,407 --> 01:05:54,911
if I didn't give a level of

1901
01:05:52,976 --> 01:05:57,146
gratitude and appreciation for

1902
01:05:54,978 --> 01:05:59,616
the openness of an ongoing

1903
01:05:57,213 --> 01:06:02,285
openness of teams from the cfo's

1904
01:05:59,683 --> 01:06:04,854
office, from the power system,

1905
01:06:02,352 --> 01:06:07,590
from the water system, from the

1906
01:06:04,921 --> 01:06:09,593
administrator office, from

1907
01:06:07,657 --> 01:06:11,861
customer service that helps us

1908
01:06:09,659 --> 01:06:15,398
do our jobs of evaluating these

1909
01:06:11,928 --> 01:06:18,334
items that come before you,

1910
01:06:15,465 --> 01:06:20,770
providing analysis and comments

1911
01:06:18,401 --> 01:06:24,641
areas that we identify, maybe

1912
01:06:20,837 --> 01:06:25,875
are needed areas of improvement,

1913
01:06:24,708 --> 01:06:28,411
areas for additional analysis

1914
01:06:25,942 --> 01:06:28,778
and just additional areas for

1915
01:06:28,478 --> 01:06:31,781
consideration.

1916
01:06:28,845 --> 01:06:34,250
I will bring forward three items

1917
01:06:31,848 --> 01:06:35,985
today that I want to raise to

1918
01:06:34,317 --> 01:06:40,023
your attention.  The first is

1919
01:06:36,052 --> 01:06:44,361
related to opa's broad mission.

1920
01:06:40,089 --> 01:06:47,597
we remain committed to

1921
01:06:44,428 --> 01:06:49,732
affordability, to transparency,

1922
01:06:47,664 --> 01:06:51,635
and to accountability on

1923
01:06:49,799 --> 01:06:54,471
community impact from the

1924
01:06:51,702 --> 01:06:57,907
department.  And in support of

1925
01:06:54,538 --> 01:07:01,110
this, opa recently released

1926
01:06:57,974 --> 01:07:03,780
several items for public

1927
01:07:01,177 --> 01:07:05,282
evaluation in areas which are

1928
01:07:03,847 --> 01:07:08,718
relevant to the -- the board

1929
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:10,653
today.  One of those is a series

1930
01:07:08,785 --> 01:07:13,890
of public-facing materials on

1931
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:18,662
water and power rate design, as

1932
01:07:13,956 --> 01:07:20,864
well as consumer utility bill

1933
01:07:18,728 --> 01:07:22,599
design to provide explanation to

1934
01:07:20,931 --> 01:07:25,368
the general public for how water

1935
01:07:22,666 --> 01:07:27,170
and power rates are designed and

1936
01:07:25,435 --> 01:07:30,273
how to interpret their utility

1937
01:07:27,237 --> 01:07:32,075
bills.  We have received a lot

1938
01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:33,776
of comments on these.  This

1939
01:07:32,142 --> 01:07:35,945
material was not present in the

1940
01:07:33,843 --> 01:07:37,347
public before, we would

1941
01:07:36,012 --> 01:07:38,915
encourage to you review that as

1942
01:07:37,414 --> 01:07:42,118
on our publicly facing website,

1943
01:07:38,981 --> 01:07:44,520
and we will be planning

1944
01:07:42,185 --> 01:07:46,890
additional information for

1945
01:07:44,587 --> 01:07:48,025
transparency and community

1946
01:07:46,957 --> 01:07:49,859
advising going forward.

1947
01:07:48,091 --> 01:07:52,762
the second area that I would

1948
01:07:49,926 --> 01:07:54,063
like to raise your attention on

1949
01:07:52,829 --> 01:07:55,798
is some upcoming listening

1950
01:07:54,130 --> 01:07:58,167
sessions that the office of

1951
01:07:55,865 --> 01:07:59,535
public accountability, the

1952
01:07:58,234 --> 01:08:01,838
ratepayer advocate, will be

1953
01:07:59,602 --> 01:08:04,941
holding in the community to

1954
01:08:01,905 --> 01:08:07,243
start to talk to individual

1955
01:08:05,008 --> 01:08:14,183
representatives of community

1956
01:08:07,310 --> 01:08:16,586
groups to impacted individuals,

1957
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:17,854
to people that receive utility

1958
01:08:16,652 --> 01:08:19,489
bills every month to really

1959
01:08:17,921 --> 01:08:20,790
start to listen to them about

1960
01:08:19,556 --> 01:08:23,860
what it means when people

1961
01:08:20,857 --> 01:08:24,961
receive their utility bill, how

1962
01:08:23,927 --> 01:08:26,062
do they interpret affordability,

1963
01:08:25,028 --> 01:08:28,264
where is the direction of travel

1964
01:08:26,128 --> 01:08:30,500
as it relates to community

1965
01:08:28,331 --> 01:08:32,368
impact.  We have three planned

1966
01:08:30,567 --> 01:08:34,570
in the upcoming weeks.  One is

1967
01:08:32,435 --> 01:08:36,473
on january 28th, another is on

1968
01:08:34,637 --> 01:08:38,842
february 5th, and the final one

1969
01:08:36,540 --> 01:08:41,644
is on february 11th.  These will

1970
01:08:38,909 --> 01:08:43,947
have both -- these will have

1971
01:08:41,711 --> 01:08:46,916
bilingual access, and the one on

1972
01:08:44,014 --> 01:08:49,719
january 28th will be holding at

1973
01:08:46,983 --> 01:08:51,587
the boys and girls club of the

1974
01:08:49,786 --> 01:08:53,890
san fernando valley on

1975
01:08:51,654 --> 01:08:56,893
february 5th we'll be holding at

1976
01:08:53,957 --> 01:08:58,828
first ame church, and the one on

1977
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:02,398
february 11th we'll be holding

1978
01:08:58,895 --> 01:09:03,866
at the delores mission church.

1979
01:09:02,465 --> 01:09:05,702
I have information here both in

1980
01:09:03,933 --> 01:09:06,903
spanish and english for anybody

1981
01:09:05,769 --> 01:09:09,572
here in the audience, or

1982
01:09:06,970 --> 01:09:11,074
information can be found on our

1983
01:09:09,639 --> 01:09:12,208
web site that talks about these,

1984
01:09:11,141 --> 01:09:13,176
and we would encourage

1985
01:09:12,275 --> 01:09:14,211
participation from any members

1986
01:09:13,243 --> 01:09:16,913
of the public that would like to

1987
01:09:14,277 --> 01:09:20,183
participate.

1988
01:09:16,979 --> 01:09:22,085
one item I would like to elevate

1989
01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:25,021
from our filed comments is

1990
01:09:22,152 --> 01:09:27,356
related to item 17, which you

1991
01:09:25,088 --> 01:09:31,160
have heard comments today.  And

1992
01:09:27,423 --> 01:09:33,730
this is related to the contract

1993
01:09:31,227 --> 01:09:37,366
approval for vegetation

1994
01:09:33,797 --> 01:09:40,303
management.  While opa has no

1995
01:09:37,433 --> 01:09:42,038
comments on or concerns about

1996
01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:45,975
the approval of these contracts,

1997
01:09:42,105 --> 01:09:47,710
we would like to elevate two

1998
01:09:46,042 --> 01:09:49,045
items.  One is from the

1999
01:09:47,777 --> 01:09:50,747
discussion we heard earlier

2000
01:09:49,112 --> 01:09:52,449
today, just to make sure that

2001
01:09:50,814 --> 01:09:54,817
the board has our points on

2002
01:09:52,516 --> 01:09:56,986
this, is that we find it

2003
01:09:54,884 --> 01:09:58,221
encouraging that there are two

2004
01:09:57,053 --> 01:10:01,124
contracts that are being offered

2005
01:09:58,288 --> 01:10:03,192
today.  We have seen, in the

2006
01:10:01,191 --> 01:10:05,662
past, where there is a single

2007
01:10:03,259 --> 01:10:07,664
vendor that is responsible for

2008
01:10:05,729 --> 01:10:08,264
managing critical utility

2009
01:10:07,731 --> 01:10:09,432
services and infrastructure

2010
01:10:08,331 --> 01:10:13,002
services the opportunity to make

2011
01:10:09,499 --> 01:10:16,472
sure that there is two vendors

2012
01:10:13,069 --> 01:10:19,075
that are able to perform this

2013
01:10:16,539 --> 01:10:21,677
critical work is valuable and

2014
01:10:19,142 --> 01:10:24,046
has a value to rate payers in

2015
01:10:21,744 --> 01:10:25,615
and of itself.  Second is we

2016
01:10:24,113 --> 01:10:27,383
have requested information about

2017
01:10:25,682 --> 01:10:30,153
the green waste disposal

2018
01:10:27,450 --> 01:10:32,689
practices associated with these

2019
01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:34,157
contracts.  While opa doesn't

2020
01:10:32,756 --> 01:10:36,626
generally get into the minutia

2021
01:10:34,224 --> 01:10:38,762
of contracts, we do look at both

2022
01:10:36,693 --> 01:10:41,097
total cost and effectiveness and

2023
01:10:38,829 --> 01:10:41,731
city policy that may be espoused

2024
01:10:41,164 --> 01:10:43,399
within the approval of

2025
01:10:41,798 --> 01:10:45,802
individual contracts.  We have

2026
01:10:43,466 --> 01:10:47,603
seen and we have requested

2027
01:10:45,869 --> 01:10:49,839
information on where the green

2028
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:52,775
waste from these -- from these

2029
01:10:49,906 --> 01:10:55,845
contractors will be deposited.

2030
01:10:52,842 --> 01:10:58,014
the information we received is

2031
01:10:55,912 --> 01:11:00,884
that there is, at present, not a

2032
01:10:58,081 --> 01:11:06,689
memo of agreement, or

2033
01:11:00,950 --> 01:11:07,456
misdemeanor  -- memo of

2034
01:11:06,756 --> 01:11:08,758
understanding between the

2035
01:11:07,523 --> 01:11:10,626
department and other city

2036
01:11:08,825 --> 01:11:12,728
services such as sanitation to

2037
01:11:10,693 --> 01:11:14,831
use city facilities for the

2038
01:11:12,795 --> 01:11:17,400
disposal of this green waste.

2039
01:11:14,897 --> 01:11:19,735
that has required the

2040
01:11:17,467 --> 01:11:20,870
development of an improvised

2041
01:11:19,802 --> 01:11:22,605
process which we have not

2042
01:11:20,937 --> 01:11:23,840
received information on and we

2043
01:11:22,672 --> 01:11:26,476
would respectfully recommend

2044
01:11:23,907 --> 01:11:29,179
that the board ask this question

2045
01:11:26,543 --> 01:11:29,779
either in contract review period

2046
01:11:29,246 --> 01:11:31,347
or contemporaneous with the

2047
01:11:29,846 --> 01:11:34,417
approval to make sure that the

2048
01:11:31,414 --> 01:11:37,086
department's contractors are

2049
01:11:34,484 --> 01:11:39,689
fulfilling in the spirit of the

2050
01:11:37,153 --> 01:11:41,190
sb1383 law which focuses on

2051
01:11:39,756 --> 01:11:43,359
deposition of green waste in

2052
01:11:41,257 --> 01:11:44,961
composting facilities.  We have

2053
01:11:43,426 --> 01:11:46,763
seen many different ads,

2054
01:11:45,028 --> 01:11:54,003
facebook posts, and others where

2055
01:11:46,830 --> 01:11:54,337
people are getting green waste

2056
01:11:54,070 --> 01:12:01,678
bins delivered to their houses

2057
01:11:59,976 --> 01:12:02,611
by the dozens and we want to

2058
01:12:01,744 --> 01:12:04,480
make sure that the department

2059
01:12:02,678 --> 01:12:06,116
and its contractors when you

2060
01:12:04,547 --> 01:12:08,184
have such large amount of green

2061
01:12:06,182 --> 01:12:10,320
waste is also fulfilling those

2062
01:12:08,251 --> 01:12:11,921
obligations I would also like to

2063
01:12:10,387 --> 01:12:16,926
call your attention to filed

2064
01:12:11,987 --> 01:12:18,027
items 7, 8, and 9, these are in

2065
01:12:16,993 --> 01:12:19,395
the report --

2066
01:12:18,094 --> 01:12:22,231
» com. Wilma pinder:  let's stop

2067
01:12:19,462 --> 01:12:25,468
one moment with the green waste

2068
01:12:22,298 --> 01:12:27,737
is there anyone that falls under

2069
01:12:25,535 --> 01:12:28,904
their department or --

2070
01:12:27,837 --> 01:12:32,675
» nurit katz:  I want to address

2071
01:12:28,971 --> 01:12:33,476
that I will now say as a board

2072
01:12:32,742 --> 01:12:34,978
member to the department to

2073
01:12:33,543 --> 01:12:36,746
please follow up on that power

2074
01:12:35,045 --> 01:12:39,081
system however I would note that

2075
01:12:36,813 --> 01:12:40,483
there is complexity around the

2076
01:12:39,148 --> 01:12:42,818
disposal of green waste I know

2077
01:12:40,549 --> 01:12:43,986
from dealing with other issues

2078
01:12:42,885 --> 01:12:46,389
with sanitation and fire

2079
01:12:44,053 --> 01:12:48,157
clearance that there are certain

2080
01:12:46,456 --> 01:12:50,593
trees palm trees that cannot go

2081
01:12:48,224 --> 01:12:52,094
to our compost facilities so

2082
01:12:50,660 --> 01:12:53,496
there is a bit of complexity

2083
01:12:52,161 --> 01:12:55,065
there and I would encourage the

2084
01:12:53,563 --> 01:12:58,234
department to work closely with

2085
01:12:55,131 --> 01:12:59,502
la sanitation to ensure that our

2086
01:12:58,301 --> 01:13:03,406
waste disposal is meeting city

2087
01:12:59,569 --> 01:13:05,141
policy requirements but also not

2088
01:13:03,473 --> 01:13:07,377
impeding these areas impacted

2089
01:13:05,208 --> 01:13:09,946
facilities that are dealing with

2090
01:13:07,444 --> 01:13:12,415
a lot of increased green waste

2091
01:13:10,013 --> 01:13:13,215
from residential and other areas

2092
01:13:12,482 --> 01:13:14,484
so it will require important

2093
01:13:13,282 --> 01:13:15,785
department to department

2094
01:13:14,551 --> 01:13:17,553
coordination so please work with

2095
01:13:15,852 --> 01:13:20,957
la sanitation and then report

2096
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:25,194
back to us on that.

2097
01:13:21,024 --> 01:13:27,096
» speaker:  yes.

2098
01:13:25,261 --> 01:13:28,965
» com. Wilma pinder:  this it's

2099
01:13:27,163 --> 01:13:31,033
important green waste mort what

2100
01:13:29,031 --> 01:13:33,636
senate bill was that?

2101
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:35,037
» tim o'connor:  sb1383 which is

2102
01:13:33,703 --> 01:13:37,073
a bill that focuses on climate

2103
01:13:35,104 --> 01:13:38,507
change to reduce emissions

2104
01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:39,742
associated with the

2105
01:13:38,574 --> 01:13:45,915
decomposition of waste which

2106
01:13:39,809 --> 01:13:48,551
sets new standards for municipal

2107
01:13:45,982 --> 01:13:49,185
government to handle.

2108
01:13:48,618 --> 01:13:51,554
» com. Wilma pinder:  assuming

2109
01:13:49,252 --> 01:13:53,322
it's not too thick would you

2110
01:13:51,621 --> 01:13:55,191
make sure we get that language

2111
01:13:53,389 --> 01:13:55,892
for ourselves that the

2112
01:13:55,258 --> 01:13:57,260
commission gets that particular

2113
01:13:55,959 --> 01:13:59,462
language I'm sure the department

2114
01:13:57,327 --> 01:14:00,630
is well aware we just have not

2115
01:13:59,529 --> 01:14:03,599
received the information in time

2116
01:14:00,697 --> 01:14:12,008
that was allotted to provide

2117
01:14:03,666 --> 01:14:12,642
analysis before the board today.

2118
01:14:12,075 --> 01:14:14,443
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

2119
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:15,878
very much for that.

2120
01:14:14,510 --> 01:14:19,382
» tim o'connor:  final item

2121
01:14:15,945 --> 01:14:21,617
elevates items 7, 8, and 9

2122
01:14:19,449 --> 01:14:23,486
reports sections that have been

2123
01:14:21,684 --> 01:14:25,021
item k that have been

2124
01:14:23,553 --> 01:14:26,956
distributed we provided written

2125
01:14:25,087 --> 01:14:28,191
comments on an observation

2126
01:14:27,023 --> 01:14:28,925
associated with the renewable

2127
01:14:28,258 --> 01:14:30,693
portfolio standard and clean

2128
01:14:28,991 --> 01:14:32,695
energy resources planning

2129
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,730
monthly documents from july to

2130
01:14:32,761 --> 01:14:35,765
october we have to call

2131
01:14:34,797 --> 01:14:37,032
attention to the board that

2132
01:14:35,832 --> 01:14:38,701
while the department is doing

2133
01:14:37,099 --> 01:14:39,602
fantastic work to continue to

2134
01:14:38,768 --> 01:14:41,537
increase the amount of clean

2135
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:44,273
energy resources, the renewable

2136
01:14:41,604 --> 01:14:46,909
energy that's coming to the

2137
01:14:44,340 --> 01:14:48,411
system in support of the la 100

2138
01:14:46,976 --> 01:14:50,079
power system plan improving and

2139
01:14:48,478 --> 01:14:51,213
managing towards safe reliable,

2140
01:14:50,146 --> 01:14:54,483
affordable, and clean energy,

2141
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,686
there is an item there that

2142
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:57,920
which continues to track as

2143
01:14:56,753 --> 01:14:58,421
underperformance and that's in

2144
01:14:57,987 --> 01:14:59,388
the transportation

2145
01:14:58,487 --> 01:15:01,124
electrification track.  We know

2146
01:14:59,455 --> 01:15:03,159
the department is doing a lot in

2147
01:15:01,191 --> 01:15:10,967
this area.  We have yet to see

2148
01:15:03,226 --> 01:15:14,237
an e the v or a transportation

2149
01:15:11,034 --> 01:15:15,905
electrification integrated

2150
01:15:14,304 --> 01:15:18,274
strategy for for the department

2151
01:15:15,972 --> 01:15:19,442
we believe that this is an area

2152
01:15:18,340 --> 01:15:21,844
where the department really

2153
01:15:19,509 --> 01:15:22,511
needs to integrate

2154
01:15:21,911 --> 01:15:23,446
transportation electrification

2155
01:15:22,578 --> 01:15:24,914
throughout the power system

2156
01:15:23,513 --> 01:15:26,549
priorities we understand they

2157
01:15:24,981 --> 01:15:28,618
are but recommend that the board

2158
01:15:26,616 --> 01:15:29,552
either request a formal strategy

2159
01:15:28,685 --> 01:15:31,287
or briefing on the strategies

2160
01:15:29,619 --> 01:15:32,555
for meeting those long-term

2161
01:15:31,354 --> 01:15:34,757
deadlines on electrification of

2162
01:15:32,622 --> 01:15:35,858
transportation.  We haven't

2163
01:15:34,824 --> 01:15:36,893
really seen a robust

2164
01:15:35,925 --> 01:15:39,362
conversation in the public on

2165
01:15:36,959 --> 01:15:42,665
this yet.

2166
01:15:39,429 --> 01:15:45,568
finally, on item number nine, we

2167
01:15:42,732 --> 01:15:47,036
have reported on filed items.

2168
01:15:45,635 --> 01:15:50,573
we have reported in the past

2169
01:15:47,103 --> 01:15:51,841
that we have evaluated the

2170
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,576
elysian reservoir community

2171
01:15:51,908 --> 01:15:55,344
parks enhancement fund because

2172
01:15:53,643 --> 01:15:57,380
commissioner marks, commissioner

2173
01:15:55,411 --> 01:15:59,649
tran, you're new, just a brief

2174
01:15:57,447 --> 01:16:03,486
recap, this is roughly a

2175
01:15:59,716 --> 01:16:05,254
ten-year old, maybe even longer,

2176
01:16:03,553 --> 01:16:07,990
grant process, and we do see a

2177
01:16:05,321 --> 01:16:09,258
line of site to concluding this

2178
01:16:08,057 --> 01:16:11,327
work, and we reviewed the

2179
01:16:09,325 --> 01:16:13,863
report, I believe in the next 2,

2180
01:16:11,394 --> 01:16:15,465
to three years, the funding will

2181
01:16:13,930 --> 01:16:16,932
be used up by the completion of

2182
01:16:15,565 --> 01:16:18,568
projects, so we're encouraged,

2183
01:16:16,999 --> 01:16:20,169
of course, by that.  If you were

2184
01:16:18,635 --> 01:16:23,639
to look back at this funds, you

2185
01:16:20,236 --> 01:16:24,440
would see that it's a very long

2186
01:16:23,706 --> 01:16:25,975
process.  I don't think grants

2187
01:16:24,507 --> 01:16:28,144
normally sit out there for a

2188
01:16:26,042 --> 01:16:29,078
decade or more, and we would

2189
01:16:28,211 --> 01:16:30,980
encourage, of course, the

2190
01:16:29,145 --> 01:16:33,749
department to continue to work

2191
01:16:31,047 --> 01:16:35,684
to make sure that this grant

2192
01:16:33,816 --> 01:16:37,153
enhancement fund is either

2193
01:16:35,751 --> 01:16:38,787
concluded or that there is a

2194
01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:41,157
review to make sure that the

2195
01:16:38,854 --> 01:16:43,392
department gets the money back.

2196
01:16:41,224 --> 01:16:45,528
and with that, I'll close my

2197
01:16:43,459 --> 01:16:47,864
comments and open up for any

2198
01:16:45,595 --> 01:16:49,398
discussion across the dais.

2199
01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:52,668
» com. Wilma pinder:  any

2200
01:16:49,465 --> 01:16:55,771
commissioner have a sponsor a

2201
01:16:52,735 --> 01:16:56,739
comment?  Or are your hand

2202
01:16:55,838 --> 01:16:57,006
stinging from --

2203
01:16:56,806 --> 01:16:59,742
[laughter]

2204
01:16:57,073 --> 01:17:01,210
» nurit katz:  I mean, I would

2205
01:16:59,809 --> 01:17:02,812
just thank you, as always, for

2206
01:17:01,277 --> 01:17:05,014
your insightful comments and

2207
01:17:02,878 --> 01:17:06,582
analysis, and I agree on the

2208
01:17:05,081 --> 01:17:07,650
need for digging into further

2209
01:17:06,649 --> 01:17:08,851
into the electrification and

2210
01:17:07,717 --> 01:17:09,919
vehicle electrification.  I know

2211
01:17:08,918 --> 01:17:11,387
that the department is working

2212
01:17:09,985 --> 01:17:13,222
on a number of important

2213
01:17:11,454 --> 01:17:14,390
initiatives there, including ev

2214
01:17:13,289 --> 01:17:16,092
hubs that will serve areas where

2215
01:17:14,457 --> 01:17:17,059
people do not have private

2216
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:17,927
charging, and so, we'll work

2217
01:17:17,126 --> 01:17:19,595
with the department on the

2218
01:17:17,994 --> 01:17:22,398
timing, but I do think a report

2219
01:17:19,662 --> 01:17:24,066
to the board on that topic would

2220
01:17:22,465 --> 01:17:26,102
be warranted at a later date,

2221
01:17:24,133 --> 01:17:28,337
and I'll -- we'll discuss that

2222
01:17:26,168 --> 01:17:29,605
with the staff.  Thank you.

2223
01:17:28,404 --> 01:17:30,540
» tim o'connor:  thank you.

2224
01:17:29,672 --> 01:17:33,042
» com. Wilma pinder:  all right.

2225
01:17:30,607 --> 01:17:35,945
now the parts that I really need

2226
01:17:33,109 --> 01:17:39,515
the commission's secretary to

2227
01:17:36,012 --> 01:17:51,760
help me get through as we're

2228
01:17:39,582 --> 01:17:53,762
moving on to voluminous things

2229
01:17:51,827 --> 01:17:55,731
that we have read ourselves as

2230
01:17:53,829 --> 01:17:57,733
individually as commissioners we

2231
01:17:55,798 --> 01:17:59,101
do this before every meeting

2232
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,037
sometime over the several day

2233
01:17:59,168 --> 01:18:02,738
period some of us come in extra

2234
01:18:01,104 --> 01:18:04,206
early on the board day if we

2235
01:18:02,805 --> 01:18:06,008
haven't gotten through

2236
01:18:04,273 --> 01:18:08,510
everything to read because when

2237
01:18:06,075 --> 01:18:09,878
we vote we're trying to vote

2238
01:18:08,577 --> 01:18:11,213
with knowledge and we can't

2239
01:18:09,945 --> 01:18:13,816
discuss it with each other

2240
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:16,586
before we can actually come out

2241
01:18:13,883 --> 01:18:19,355
here with you, we're not

2242
01:18:16,653 --> 01:18:22,725
discussing what we're reading as

2243
01:18:19,422 --> 01:18:25,795
a group we would be again this

2244
01:18:22,792 --> 01:18:27,196
brown act but what we each have

2245
01:18:25,862 --> 01:18:29,598
done in these things sometime we

2246
01:18:27,263 --> 01:18:31,367
may have even conferred with

2247
01:18:29,665 --> 01:18:33,068
another engineer or something we

2248
01:18:31,434 --> 01:18:34,770
can ask questions we're not

2249
01:18:33,135 --> 01:18:35,971
bound we're not bound that we

2250
01:18:34,837 --> 01:18:37,706
cooperate say hey I'm in the

2251
01:18:36,038 --> 01:18:39,308
middle of reading this

2252
01:18:37,773 --> 01:18:41,243
particular contract we could ask

2253
01:18:39,375 --> 01:18:42,745
right then and there but it's

2254
01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:44,780
obviously easier for us to ask

2255
01:18:42,812 --> 01:18:46,215
in here so that often you will

2256
01:18:44,847 --> 01:18:47,883
hear that we pull something and

2257
01:18:46,282 --> 01:18:49,351
we say I want to hear more on

2258
01:18:47,950 --> 01:18:51,454
that doesn't mean we have to

2259
01:18:49,418 --> 01:18:53,088
hear it right now we might want

2260
01:18:51,521 --> 01:18:54,890
to hear it next time but there

2261
01:18:53,155 --> 01:18:56,625
is some things that we have read

2262
01:18:54,957 --> 01:18:59,962
and we feel that as a group we

2263
01:18:56,692 --> 01:19:01,364
can simply vote on those because

2264
01:19:00,029 --> 01:19:02,965
we feel we have the knowledge to

2265
01:19:01,430 --> 01:19:04,500
do that.  So with that in mind,

2266
01:19:03,032 --> 01:19:08,738
there are things that I'm going

2267
01:19:04,566 --> 01:19:13,075
to ask the commissioners, can we

2268
01:19:08,805 --> 01:19:14,777
get a, when I say "block vote"

2269
01:19:13,142 --> 01:19:17,012
that means that you have read

2270
01:19:14,844 --> 01:19:18,848
it, that you feel that you are

2271
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:20,716
ready to approve that particular

2272
01:19:18,915 --> 01:19:23,853
matter, and then there are some

2273
01:19:20,783 --> 01:19:25,421
that you may.more information

2274
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,289
on, that have to be,

2275
01:19:25,488 --> 01:19:29,858
quote "pulled."  that's the

2276
01:19:27,356 --> 01:19:31,761
point we're at now, you hear us

2277
01:19:29,925 --> 01:19:33,362
flipping around through our

2278
01:19:31,828 --> 01:19:33,896
papers.

2279
01:19:33,429 --> 01:19:34,863
» board secretary, chante

2280
01:19:33,963 --> 01:19:36,932
mitchell:  would you like --

2281
01:19:34,930 --> 01:19:37,666
» com. Wilma pinder:  miss

2282
01:19:36,999 --> 01:19:38,801
secretary please assist me with

2283
01:19:37,733 --> 01:19:41,337
the pulled items and the ones

2284
01:19:38,868 --> 01:19:43,439
that I'm going to call for our

2285
01:19:41,404 --> 01:19:45,607
group f they can block vote?  I

2286
01:19:43,506 --> 01:19:48,778
know there are a couple of

2287
01:19:45,674 --> 01:19:52,548
things that we do have to set

2288
01:19:48,845 --> 01:19:58,220
aside, for example, I will be

2289
01:19:52,615 --> 01:19:59,855
recusing myself on 013 on that

2290
01:19:58,287 --> 01:20:01,056
matter.  And at that time, I

2291
01:19:59,922 --> 01:20:02,591
would ask commissioner katz

2292
01:20:01,123 --> 01:20:04,794
would she stand in when that

2293
01:20:02,658 --> 01:20:06,061
voting is taken care of.  I

2294
01:20:04,860 --> 01:20:09,631
believe one of the commissioners

2295
01:20:06,128 --> 01:20:14,603
had an issue or wanted more

2296
01:20:09,698 --> 01:20:16,238
information or discussion with

2297
01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:16,772
08, and with 06?

2298
01:20:16,305 --> 01:20:18,407
» board secretary, chante

2299
01:20:16,839 --> 01:20:21,243
mitchell:  no, as previously

2300
01:20:18,474 --> 01:20:23,946
discussed item 06 will be pulled

2301
01:20:21,310 --> 01:20:26,849
or called special per

2302
01:20:24,013 --> 01:20:28,417
commissioner tran.  Item 07, I

2303
01:20:26,915 --> 01:20:30,252
believe was called special by

2304
01:20:28,484 --> 01:20:36,792
commissioner tran, and 013, you

2305
01:20:30,319 --> 01:20:39,529
will recuse -- is it 08?  --

2306
01:20:36,859 --> 01:20:41,230
correction 08, as opposed to 07,

2307
01:20:39,595 --> 01:20:43,999
and 013, and commissioner tran

2308
01:20:41,297 --> 01:20:47,103
has a question on as well as the

2309
01:20:44,066 --> 01:20:48,470
recusal of commissioner pinder.

2310
01:20:47,170 --> 01:20:50,039
» com. Wilma pinder:  okay.

2311
01:20:48,537 --> 01:20:52,808
» nurit katz:  would you like me

2312
01:20:50,106 --> 01:20:53,976
to make a motion then?

2313
01:20:52,875 --> 01:20:56,278
» com. Wilma pinder:  yes may I

2314
01:20:54,043 --> 01:21:00,516
have then a motion as to all

2315
01:20:56,345 --> 01:21:05,087
items that have not been

2316
01:21:00,583 --> 01:21:06,555
identified as pulled or

2317
01:21:05,154 --> 01:21:07,356
retrieved?

2318
01:21:06,622 --> 01:21:15,431
» nurit katz:  thank you.  So

2319
01:21:07,422 --> 01:21:18,901
motion approve items 12, 3, 4,

2320
01:21:15,497 --> 01:21:19,134
5, 7, 9 through 12, 14 through

2321
01:21:18,968 --> 01:21:20,536
23.

2322
01:21:19,201 --> 01:21:22,405
» speaker:  I seconds.

2323
01:21:20,602 --> 01:21:25,140
» com. Wilma pinder:  moved and

2324
01:21:22,472 --> 01:21:25,841
second.  May I have call for

2325
01:21:25,207 --> 01:21:26,375
final vote.

2326
01:21:25,908 --> 01:21:27,376
» board secretary, chante

2327
01:21:26,442 --> 01:21:27,843
mitchell:  katz?

2328
01:21:27,443 --> 01:21:28,377
» nurit katz:  aye.

2329
01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:30,112
» board secretary, chante

2330
01:21:28,444 --> 01:21:30,779
mitchell:  marks?

2331
01:21:30,179 --> 01:21:31,313
» allan t. Marks:  aye.

2332
01:21:30,846 --> 01:21:33,048
» board secretary, chante

2333
01:21:31,380 --> 01:21:33,983
mitchell:  pinder?

2334
01:21:33,115 --> 01:21:34,517
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

2335
01:21:34,050 --> 01:21:35,484
» board secretary, chante

2336
01:21:34,584 --> 01:21:36,218
mitchell:  tran?

2337
01:21:35,551 --> 01:21:36,752
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

2338
01:21:36,285 --> 01:21:38,320
» board secretary, chante

2339
01:21:36,819 --> 01:21:38,587
mitchell:  four ayes motion

2340
01:21:38,387 --> 01:21:39,254
adopted.

2341
01:21:38,654 --> 01:21:43,492
» com. Wilma pinder:  all right

2342
01:21:39,321 --> 01:21:46,128
since there is only one matter

2343
01:21:43,559 --> 01:21:48,030
that has to have the recusal

2344
01:21:46,195 --> 01:21:49,498
it's me I would propose that I

2345
01:21:48,097 --> 01:21:51,467
stech out now because then I

2346
01:21:49,565 --> 01:21:51,901
want to be back for the other

2347
01:21:51,534 --> 01:21:52,568
two.

2348
01:21:51,968 --> 01:21:54,169
» nurit katz:  thank you.  All

2349
01:21:52,635 --> 01:21:55,204
right I believe you said

2350
01:21:54,236 --> 01:21:58,174
commissioner tran did you have

2351
01:21:55,271 --> 01:22:01,277
questions about this item as

2352
01:21:58,241 --> 01:22:04,213
well?  Did you a presentation or

2353
01:22:01,344 --> 01:22:07,283
just you had questions?

2354
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:09,051
» speaker:  this is the same one

2355
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:10,052
yeah thank you.

2356
01:22:09,118 --> 01:22:11,220
» benny b. Tran:  just a quick

2357
01:22:10,119 --> 01:22:12,855
question on the report I think

2358
01:22:11,287 --> 01:22:17,159
it's critically important that

2359
01:22:12,921 --> 01:22:17,759
we did modernize -- are we good?

2360
01:22:17,226 --> 01:22:20,462
» nurit katz:  let everyone

2361
01:22:17,826 --> 01:22:23,132
clear the room for a moment so

2362
01:22:20,529 --> 01:22:24,467
we can hear you.  Okay.  Who is

2363
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:26,201
the right staff member to answer

2364
01:22:24,534 --> 01:22:29,138
questions on item 13?  Do we

2365
01:22:26,268 --> 01:22:35,044
have someone here who can come

2366
01:22:29,205 --> 01:22:36,311
forward?  Come on up.  Thanks.

2367
01:22:35,111 --> 01:22:38,380
okay. If we could close the

2368
01:22:36,378 --> 01:22:39,782
doors in the back and avoid some

2369
01:22:38,447 --> 01:22:42,017
noise?  And commissioner tran if

2370
01:22:39,849 --> 01:22:42,250
you could repeat your question

2371
01:22:42,084 --> 01:22:42,918
please.

2372
01:22:42,317 --> 01:22:44,720
» benny b. Tran:  thank you.

2373
01:22:42,985 --> 01:22:47,689
just a quick question on this

2374
01:22:44,787 --> 01:22:50,960
item.  Like, as commissioner

2375
01:22:47,756 --> 01:22:52,861
marks said, drinking from a

2376
01:22:51,027 --> 01:22:54,796
firehose, it's become very

2377
01:22:52,928 --> 01:22:56,565
apparent that modernization of

2378
01:22:54,863 --> 01:22:59,535
our systems to serve our

2379
01:22:56,632 --> 01:23:05,040
customers to increase our

2380
01:22:59,602 --> 01:23:07,476
resources to serve, to preserve,

2381
01:23:05,107 --> 01:23:10,445
for citizens to keep this

2382
01:23:07,543 --> 01:23:11,681
utility running it's critically

2383
01:23:10,512 --> 01:23:13,215
important the system is

2384
01:23:11,747 --> 01:23:16,352
something that we're just

2385
01:23:13,282 --> 01:23:17,353
reaching the standards of other

2386
01:23:16,419 --> 01:23:18,954
utilities it also would be

2387
01:23:17,419 --> 01:23:20,456
better than those utilities in

2388
01:23:19,021 --> 01:23:23,725
the future just a quick question

2389
01:23:20,523 --> 01:23:27,129
on this, it's a three year

2390
01:23:23,792 --> 01:23:28,797
contract for my own education in

2391
01:23:27,196 --> 01:23:31,967
terms of possibly how things

2392
01:23:28,864 --> 01:23:33,769
work here how you approach this

2393
01:23:32,034 --> 01:23:35,571
contract why only three years

2394
01:23:33,835 --> 01:23:38,273
we're looking to in terms of

2395
01:23:35,638 --> 01:23:39,241
timeline and implementing

2396
01:23:38,340 --> 01:23:40,476
systems and three years after

2397
01:23:39,308 --> 01:23:42,411
we're going to renew this

2398
01:23:40,542 --> 01:23:43,278
contract or how is that going to

2399
01:23:42,477 --> 01:23:44,379
be set up?

2400
01:23:43,345 --> 01:23:47,182
» speaker:  thank you for the

2401
01:23:44,446 --> 01:23:49,251
question let me introduce myself

2402
01:23:47,249 --> 01:23:50,152
my name is andrew header an

2403
01:23:49,318 --> 01:23:52,521
assistant director of

2404
01:23:50,218 --> 01:23:53,188
information are systems with our

2405
01:23:52,588 --> 01:23:55,424
information technology service

2406
01:23:53,255 --> 01:23:57,025
division my group handles

2407
01:23:55,491 --> 01:23:59,194
contract administrations over

2408
01:23:57,092 --> 01:24:00,429
these oracle licenses and

2409
01:23:59,261 --> 01:24:02,297
subscriptions, but I believe

2410
01:24:00,496 --> 01:24:04,199
your question seems to have a

2411
01:24:02,364 --> 01:24:05,067
flavor about our automated or

2412
01:24:04,266 --> 01:24:05,934
advanced metering

2413
01:24:05,134 --> 01:24:07,970
infrastructure, but generally

2414
01:24:06,001 --> 01:24:11,807
it's regarding why it's only

2415
01:24:08,037 --> 01:24:14,409
three years.  So, as our

2416
01:24:11,874 --> 01:24:16,244
previous contract expired, we

2417
01:24:14,476 --> 01:24:18,914
were doing individual purchases

2418
01:24:16,311 --> 01:24:20,716
directly with oracle, which

2419
01:24:18,981 --> 01:24:22,852
weren't efficient, take a lot of

2420
01:24:20,783 --> 01:24:25,487
internal administrative time to

2421
01:24:22,918 --> 01:24:27,623
actually process, so, we were

2422
01:24:25,554 --> 01:24:29,258
looking to do something in the

2423
01:24:27,690 --> 01:24:30,726
competitive arena.  But one of

2424
01:24:29,324 --> 01:24:32,894
the option that is the city

2425
01:24:30,793 --> 01:24:35,964
charter and admin code allow us

2426
01:24:32,961 --> 01:24:38,968
to do is to do what is known as

2427
01:24:36,031 --> 01:24:42,071
a "cooperative purchasing

2428
01:24:39,035 --> 01:24:43,472
agreement" or in lay man's

2429
01:24:42,138 --> 01:24:47,809
terms, they call it

2430
01:24:43,538 --> 01:24:49,811
a "piggyback" as we look at the

2431
01:24:47,876 --> 01:24:52,247
landscape of other governmental

2432
01:24:49,878 --> 01:24:53,482
entities that had engaged in

2433
01:24:52,314 --> 01:24:56,017
contract with the oracle

2434
01:24:53,549 --> 01:24:57,586
resellers we found that the city

2435
01:24:56,084 --> 01:25:00,089
of los angeles, our sister

2436
01:24:57,653 --> 01:25:02,023
agency of course, had entered

2437
01:25:00,156 --> 01:25:04,626
into a cooperative purchasing

2438
01:25:02,090 --> 01:25:09,498
agreement with maricopa county

2439
01:25:04,693 --> 01:25:10,966
with mythics as the oracle

2440
01:25:09,565 --> 01:25:14,269
reseller.  Of course, arizona

2441
01:25:11,033 --> 01:25:15,470
had done a competitive process

2442
01:25:14,336 --> 01:25:17,506
the city reviewed that

2443
01:25:15,537 --> 01:25:19,808
competition so we're basically

2444
01:25:17,573 --> 01:25:20,676
piggybacking off of those

2445
01:25:19,875 --> 01:25:22,644
competitive processes so this

2446
01:25:20,743 --> 01:25:25,814
should be interpreted as a

2447
01:25:22,711 --> 01:25:28,917
competitive process in any way

2448
01:25:25,881 --> 01:25:30,385
because we're just kind of

2449
01:25:28,984 --> 01:25:32,354
borrowing the competition done

2450
01:25:30,452 --> 01:25:34,690
by others but the reason it's a

2451
01:25:32,421 --> 01:25:37,225
three years is because that's

2452
01:25:34,757 --> 01:25:38,894
when the current contract that

2453
01:25:37,292 --> 01:25:40,529
maricopa county has expires but

2454
01:25:38,961 --> 01:25:42,831
I think it leads to a broader

2455
01:25:40,596 --> 01:25:44,433
question you know what's next.

2456
01:25:42,898 --> 01:25:46,168
what we're going to do next what

2457
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:48,069
we would like to do during this

2458
01:25:46,235 --> 01:25:49,971
three year period is take a look

2459
01:25:48,136 --> 01:25:55,877
at partnering with the city of

2460
01:25:50,038 --> 01:26:00,182
los angeles, as well as other

2461
01:25:55,944 --> 01:26:01,917
proprietary agencies, los

2462
01:26:00,249 --> 01:26:02,918
angeles world airports part of

2463
01:26:01,983 --> 01:26:05,454
los angeles u.s. Of course being

2464
01:26:02,985 --> 01:26:07,623
water and power to see if we can

2465
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,457
come together as an entire city

2466
01:26:07,690 --> 01:26:10,659
of los angeles family and

2467
01:26:08,524 --> 01:26:13,729
negotiate something you know

2468
01:26:10,726 --> 01:26:15,063
this is an arena we second

2469
01:26:13,796 --> 01:26:15,764
potentially do another

2470
01:26:15,130 --> 01:26:18,433
cooperative purchasing agreement

2471
01:26:15,831 --> 01:26:20,536
or go out and do a competitive

2472
01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:22,070
process on our own but as a city

2473
01:26:20,603 --> 01:26:23,839
family kind of joining our needs

2474
01:26:22,137 --> 01:26:26,742
together and getting prices that

2475
01:26:23,906 --> 01:26:29,077
come from having that volume.

2476
01:26:26,809 --> 01:26:30,278
tan tran thank you.  Just a

2477
01:26:29,144 --> 01:26:32,280
quick question from a city

2478
01:26:30,345 --> 01:26:35,450
prosstandpoint if we were to

2479
01:26:32,347 --> 01:26:38,053
engage in the new rfp within

2480
01:26:35,517 --> 01:26:41,090
three years estimated timeline

2481
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,891
for us to go through process bid

2482
01:26:41,157 --> 01:26:48,764
out and award?

2483
01:26:42,958 --> 01:26:51,800
» speaker:  we would called

2484
01:26:48,831 --> 01:26:54,336
purchasing side invitation for

2485
01:26:51,867 --> 01:26:56,905
bid because it really boils down

2486
01:26:54,403 --> 01:26:59,307
to just price it's not heavy

2487
01:26:56,972 --> 01:27:02,745
footprint on capability because

2488
01:26:59,374 --> 01:27:05,013
resellers at the end of the day

2489
01:27:02,812 --> 01:27:08,383
are offering what in effect is a

2490
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:10,418
material to us so it would be

2491
01:27:08,450 --> 01:27:11,853
invitation for bid process that

2492
01:27:10,485 --> 01:27:14,056
would do that process to take

2493
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:16,959
probably 6 to 9 months part of

2494
01:27:14,122 --> 01:27:17,660
the difficulty for us this time

2495
01:27:17,026 --> 01:27:19,461
around while beneficial for us

2496
01:27:17,726 --> 01:27:21,296
to piggyback off of what the

2497
01:27:19,528 --> 01:27:24,032
city has done actually preparing

2498
01:27:21,363 --> 01:27:26,168
the arthease facts to go out

2499
01:27:24,099 --> 01:27:27,903
with invitation for bid actually

2500
01:27:26,234 --> 01:27:31,206
does require a lot of expertise

2501
01:27:27,970 --> 01:27:32,474
in the area of nuances of oracle

2502
01:27:31,273 --> 01:27:33,742
listening and while we learned a

2503
01:27:32,541 --> 01:27:35,544
lot in partnering with the city

2504
01:27:33,808 --> 01:27:37,979
and understanding what maricopa

2505
01:27:35,611 --> 01:27:40,582
county did we also are going to

2506
01:27:38,046 --> 01:27:43,485
need time internally to build

2507
01:27:40,649 --> 01:27:44,653
that expertise as how to prepare

2508
01:27:43,552 --> 01:27:45,688
you know in your terms your

2509
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,723
conditions as well as what

2510
01:27:45,754 --> 01:27:49,591
you're looking for so as we work

2511
01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:51,860
with mythics over the next three

2512
01:27:49,658 --> 01:27:53,161
years we anticipate getting a

2513
01:27:51,927 --> 01:27:55,097
lot of that subject matter

2514
01:27:53,228 --> 01:27:58,233
knowledge so that if we decide

2515
01:27:55,164 --> 01:27:59,434
as an entity and partnering

2516
01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:01,369
hopefully this broader city

2517
01:27:59,501 --> 01:28:03,738
family we learned what it means

2518
01:28:01,436 --> 01:28:05,640
to actually prepare those

2519
01:28:03,805 --> 01:28:06,675
purchasing artifacts that in a

2520
01:28:05,707 --> 01:28:08,076
way speaks from authority,

2521
01:28:06,742 --> 01:28:11,680
speaks from experience so we

2522
01:28:08,143 --> 01:28:13,481
know what lessons do we need to

2523
01:28:11,747 --> 01:28:14,416
learn.  We can certainly

2524
01:28:13,548 --> 01:28:15,584
leverage assistance from the

2525
01:28:14,483 --> 01:28:17,686
ratepayer advocate other ands to

2526
01:28:15,651 --> 01:28:19,521
help us kind of work through,

2527
01:28:17,753 --> 01:28:22,290
you know, those aspects, but we

2528
01:28:19,588 --> 01:28:24,293
expect to have that subject

2529
01:28:22,357 --> 01:28:25,394
matter expertise at that time.

2530
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,728
» benny b. Tran:  great.  Thank

2531
01:28:25,461 --> 01:28:27,396
you.  That's all I have.

2532
01:28:26,795 --> 01:28:32,701
» nurit katz:  all right.  Thank

2533
01:28:27,462 --> 01:28:32,968
you.  Could I have a motion to

2534
01:28:32,768 --> 01:28:34,903
approve?

2535
01:28:33,035 --> 01:28:35,838
» speaker:  I so move.

2536
01:28:34,970 --> 01:28:36,638
» speaker:  second.

2537
01:28:35,905 --> 01:28:40,876
» nurit katz:  excellent.  You

2538
01:28:36,705 --> 01:28:41,410
can take the vote please shante?

2539
01:28:40,943 --> 01:28:42,878
» board secretary, chante

2540
01:28:41,476 --> 01:28:43,512
mitchell:  katz?

2541
01:28:42,944 --> 01:28:44,046
» nurit katz:  aye.

2542
01:28:43,579 --> 01:28:45,113
» board secretary, chante

2543
01:28:44,113 --> 01:28:45,781
mitchell:  marks?

2544
01:28:45,180 --> 01:28:46,315
» allan t. Marks:  aye.

2545
01:28:45,848 --> 01:28:48,250
» board secretary, chante

2546
01:28:46,382 --> 01:28:48,784
mitchell:  commissioner tran?

2547
01:28:48,317 --> 01:28:49,318
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

2548
01:28:48,850 --> 01:28:52,654
» board secretary, chante

2549
01:28:49,384 --> 01:28:52,921
mitchell:  three ayes.  Motion

2550
01:28:52,721 --> 01:29:14,910
adopted.

2551
01:28:52,988 --> 01:29:18,546
» nurit katz:  thank you.

2552
01:29:14,977 --> 01:29:22,083
--

2553
01:29:18,613 --> 01:29:24,786
[off-mic indiscernible]

2554
01:29:22,918 --> 01:29:27,188
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

2555
01:29:24,853 --> 01:29:33,929
so, the next item for our

2556
01:29:27,255 --> 01:29:34,930
discussion will be number six

2557
01:29:33,996 --> 01:29:35,730
then followed by eight.

2558
01:29:34,997 --> 01:29:38,166
commissioner --

2559
01:29:35,797 --> 01:29:41,303
» speaker:  item six we have

2560
01:29:38,233 --> 01:29:42,103
david jacobs who is the

2561
01:29:41,370 --> 01:29:43,038
executive director of the

2562
01:29:42,170 --> 01:29:46,909
distributed energy solutions to

2563
01:29:43,105 --> 01:29:51,113
present.

2564
01:29:46,976 --> 01:29:53,148
>

2565
01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:54,716
» speaker:  good morning

2566
01:29:53,215 --> 01:29:56,584
commissioners my name is sam,

2567
01:29:54,783 --> 01:30:01,289
I'm the interim manager of der

2568
01:29:56,651 --> 01:30:05,093
programs and projects.  The I'm

2569
01:30:01,356 --> 01:30:08,730
joined today by mr. David jaco

2570
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:10,933
executive director and stephanie

2571
01:30:08,797 --> 01:30:13,035
macarito supervisor of the group

2572
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,103
that's manage these two

2573
01:30:13,102 --> 01:30:16,604
ordinances.  Happy to present

2574
01:30:15,170 --> 01:30:17,238
first take questions later?

2575
01:30:16,671 --> 01:30:19,774
» com. Wilma pinder:  whatever

2576
01:30:17,305 --> 01:30:20,475
the commission prefers.

2577
01:30:19,841 --> 01:30:22,911
» benny b. Tran:  happy to just

2578
01:30:20,542 --> 01:30:23,578
jump into questions right now.

2579
01:30:22,978 --> 01:30:26,748
you can give background

2580
01:30:23,645 --> 01:30:27,850
information of the origin of

2581
01:30:26,815 --> 01:30:30,285
this project?  What kind of

2582
01:30:27,916 --> 01:30:32,020
impact it potentially has as a

2583
01:30:30,352 --> 01:30:35,824
pilot project?  How it could

2584
01:30:32,087 --> 01:30:36,992
scale then lastly timelines of

2585
01:30:35,891 --> 01:30:37,759
awarding implementation to until

2586
01:30:37,059 --> 01:30:39,594
it comes online?

2587
01:30:37,826 --> 01:30:41,262
» speaker:  yeah.  Can I get it

2588
01:30:39,661 --> 01:30:44,766
started and others can join to

2589
01:30:41,329 --> 01:30:48,937
add some color.  So, this is for

2590
01:30:44,833 --> 01:30:50,238
the encino reservoir floating

2591
01:30:49,004 --> 01:30:52,441
solar project we have worked

2592
01:30:50,305 --> 01:30:54,142
closely with our system planning

2593
01:30:52,508 --> 01:30:55,610
and identified projects that

2594
01:30:54,209 --> 01:31:02,017
could help support their la 100

2595
01:30:55,677 --> 01:31:02,584
plan as it pertains to procuring

2596
01:31:02,084 --> 01:31:03,685
100% renewable resources by

2597
01:31:02,651 --> 01:31:05,520
2035.  To that extent we have

2598
01:31:03,752 --> 01:31:07,189
been hard at work identifying

2599
01:31:05,587 --> 01:31:10,892
where we can deploy local solar

2600
01:31:07,255 --> 01:31:13,128
energy storage and ev chargers.

2601
01:31:10,959 --> 01:31:16,264
so, that came in a few different

2602
01:31:13,195 --> 01:31:18,900
colors.  Some of them were

2603
01:31:16,331 --> 01:31:20,268
locally installed carport

2604
01:31:18,967 --> 01:31:22,437
systems, rooftop systems, and

2605
01:31:20,335 --> 01:31:24,006
then the idea came up of a

2606
01:31:22,504 --> 01:31:26,841
floating solar project which has

2607
01:31:24,073 --> 01:31:29,277
been done in many countries,

2608
01:31:26,908 --> 01:31:31,246
including some areas here in

2609
01:31:29,344 --> 01:31:32,614
california.  I think the sonoma

2610
01:31:31,313 --> 01:31:35,450
district.  So, we worked with

2611
01:31:32,681 --> 01:31:37,552
the power system to come up with

2612
01:31:35,517 --> 01:31:42,090
some potential candidates, and

2613
01:31:37,619 --> 01:31:43,658
the encino reservoir was our top

2614
01:31:42,157 --> 01:31:45,694
candidate because the water is

2615
01:31:43,725 --> 01:31:47,529
not drinkable, and to our

2616
01:31:45,761 --> 01:31:49,398
understanding, they use this --

2617
01:31:47,596 --> 01:31:50,832
they use it for emergency

2618
01:31:49,465 --> 01:31:55,470
response.  So, we worked very

2619
01:31:50,899 --> 01:31:58,473
closely with la five, as well,

2620
01:31:55,537 --> 01:32:00,642
right?  Last year, as we recall,

2621
01:31:58,539 --> 01:32:02,544
they used the super scoopers to

2622
01:32:00,709 --> 01:32:05,580
gather water for fire response,

2623
01:32:02,611 --> 01:32:07,715
so we're very tightly

2624
01:32:05,647 --> 01:32:09,417
coordinated with them, and they

2625
01:32:07,782 --> 01:32:11,686
have all given us approval that

2626
01:32:09,484 --> 01:32:13,621
this won't affect their

2627
01:32:11,753 --> 01:32:17,325
operations.  So, that gives you

2628
01:32:13,688 --> 01:32:18,493
a high-level overview.  And you

2629
01:32:17,392 --> 01:32:19,894
mentioned something about the

2630
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,329
timeline.  If this ordinance

2631
01:32:19,961 --> 01:32:22,731
goes through -- and I should

2632
01:32:21,396 --> 01:32:25,234
mention, this is just an

2633
01:32:22,798 --> 01:32:27,436
ordinance, this is -- we won't

2634
01:32:25,300 --> 01:32:29,404
be approving the contract today,

2635
01:32:27,503 --> 01:32:31,306
so no dollars will be spent

2636
01:32:29,471 --> 01:32:34,443
today, this will only allow us

2637
01:32:31,373 --> 01:32:35,811
to issue an rfp in order to

2638
01:32:34,510 --> 01:32:36,911
procure the service, and if that

2639
01:32:35,878 --> 01:32:40,081
happens we think it will take

2640
01:32:36,978 --> 01:32:41,850
anywhere from 4 to 8 months to

2641
01:32:40,148 --> 01:32:45,487
fully install once outside labor

2642
01:32:41,917 --> 01:32:47,055
is contracted and the project

2643
01:32:45,554 --> 01:32:48,457
begins.  Last thing I'll mention

2644
01:32:47,122 --> 01:32:50,159
is ■we work closely with the

2645
01:32:48,523 --> 01:32:54,696
local encino community to get

2646
01:32:50,225 --> 01:32:55,430
feedback and to present our

2647
01:32:54,763 --> 01:32:56,064
solution.

2648
01:32:55,497 --> 01:32:58,500
» benny b. Tran:  and then

2649
01:32:56,131 --> 01:33:01,536
before awarding, the rfp will

2650
01:32:58,566 --> 01:33:04,406
take how long, do you think?

2651
01:33:01,603 --> 01:33:05,040
» speaker:  so, we have been

2652
01:33:04,473 --> 01:33:06,774
working on the rfp materials in

2653
01:33:05,107 --> 01:33:08,376
the interim.  Once we start

2654
01:33:06,841 --> 01:33:09,944
working with supply chain

2655
01:33:08,443 --> 01:33:17,652
services, we hope it will be

2656
01:33:10,011 --> 01:33:19,521
fully awarded in 6 to 8 months.

2657
01:33:17,719 --> 01:33:19,721
» benny b. Tran:  great.  Thank

2658
01:33:19,588 --> 01:33:21,456
you.

2659
01:33:19,788 --> 01:33:22,891
» com. Wilma pinder:  is date,

2660
01:33:21,523 --> 01:33:26,428
originally you had the language

2661
01:33:22,958 --> 01:33:29,397
in here carbon neutral mandate

2662
01:33:26,494 --> 01:33:33,768
is 2030, and then I heard you

2663
01:33:29,464 --> 01:33:35,270
mention 2035.  Are these dates

2664
01:33:33,835 --> 01:33:37,472
even still realistic?

2665
01:33:35,337 --> 01:33:40,408
» speaker:  I mean we're working

2666
01:33:37,539 --> 01:33:40,575
towards meeting the dates, 2035

2667
01:33:40,475 --> 01:33:44,179
--

2668
01:33:40,642 --> 01:33:44,446
» com. Wilma pinder:  realistic?

2669
01:33:44,246 --> 01:33:46,247
[laughter]

2670
01:33:44,513 --> 01:33:47,816
» speaker:  I think mr. Hanson

2671
01:33:46,314 --> 01:33:49,117
can better answer that question.

2672
01:33:47,883 --> 01:33:51,419
I think based on what we have

2673
01:33:49,184 --> 01:33:53,255
been asked to do as a group that

2674
01:33:51,486 --> 01:33:56,324
is to produce local solar in the

2675
01:33:53,322 --> 01:33:59,127
amount of over 200 megawatts we

2676
01:33:56,391 --> 01:34:00,862
can do it with the two ordinance

2677
01:33:59,194 --> 01:34:02,864
that we have before you today we

2678
01:34:00,929 --> 01:34:04,399
can do our job to meet those

2679
01:34:02,931 --> 01:34:06,334
mandates but as an overall

2680
01:34:04,466 --> 01:34:06,902
planning system, I can't answer

2681
01:34:06,401 --> 01:34:08,336
that.

2682
01:34:06,968 --> 01:34:08,870
» speaker:  I have a question.

2683
01:34:08,403 --> 01:34:09,171
» com. Wilma pinder:  a

2684
01:34:08,937 --> 01:34:09,838
question?

2685
01:34:09,237 --> 01:34:12,007
» speaker:  thank you very much.

2686
01:34:09,905 --> 01:34:14,442
I have a question on the rfp

2687
01:34:12,074 --> 01:34:15,343
scope.  The epc part I

2688
01:34:14,509 --> 01:34:19,848
understand, there is reference

2689
01:34:15,410 --> 01:34:22,751
to maintenance, and then also to

2690
01:34:19,915 --> 01:34:24,152
training dwp personnel in order

2691
01:34:22,818 --> 01:34:27,522
for us to maintain both the

2692
01:34:24,219 --> 01:34:32,961
floating solar facilities and

2693
01:34:27,589 --> 01:34:34,429
then the best.     Are you

2694
01:34:33,028 --> 01:34:36,298
contemplating longer term

2695
01:34:34,496 --> 01:34:39,067
maintenance contract with the

2696
01:34:36,365 --> 01:34:42,036
same supplier under epc contract

2697
01:34:39,134 --> 01:34:43,638
or where is that cross over

2698
01:34:42,103 --> 01:34:44,672
between end of construction

2699
01:34:43,705 --> 01:34:46,107
commissioning extended service

2700
01:34:44,739 --> 01:34:49,077
or maintenance or warranty

2701
01:34:46,174 --> 01:34:51,379
contracts and long-term o&m?

2702
01:34:49,144 --> 01:34:52,313
which could be done internally I

2703
01:34:51,446 --> 01:34:54,749
assume, right?

2704
01:34:52,380 --> 01:34:56,284
» speaker:  I'll get started

2705
01:34:54,816 --> 01:34:58,887
then maybe stephanie grant may

2706
01:34:56,351 --> 01:35:00,288
add color.  I believe we're

2707
01:34:58,954 --> 01:35:02,023
currently contemplating five

2708
01:35:00,355 --> 01:35:03,691
years of maintenance and the

2709
01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:05,627
purposes of that is our crews

2710
01:35:03,758 --> 01:35:07,462
really don't have the experience

2711
01:35:05,694 --> 01:35:09,464
maintaining a system like this,

2712
01:35:07,529 --> 01:35:11,133
right?  So we want them to not

2713
01:35:09,531 --> 01:35:13,434
only mental health it for five

2714
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:16,104
years but also show us how to

2715
01:35:13,501 --> 01:35:17,872
maintain it and if they end up

2716
01:35:16,171 --> 01:35:19,808
needing to procure the battery

2717
01:35:17,939 --> 01:35:21,910
part of this then that will fall

2718
01:35:19,875 --> 01:35:23,878
into the scope as well again the

2719
01:35:21,977 --> 01:35:26,147
whole intention we have worked

2720
01:35:23,945 --> 01:35:28,150
with our local ibw local 18 that

2721
01:35:26,214 --> 01:35:28,950
our crews will be able to

2722
01:35:28,216 --> 01:35:30,185
maintain the system going

2723
01:35:29,016 --> 01:35:34,055
forward after the five years it

2724
01:35:30,251 --> 01:35:35,323
will be passed on to them.

2725
01:35:34,122 --> 01:35:36,291
anything else?

2726
01:35:35,390 --> 01:35:39,427
» speaker:  thank you I think

2727
01:35:36,358 --> 01:35:41,562
you summarized it the

2728
01:35:39,494 --> 01:35:43,531
maintenance of this is nation

2729
01:35:41,629 --> 01:35:44,499
specific being that this is on

2730
01:35:43,598 --> 01:35:46,901
floating island getting our

2731
01:35:44,566 --> 01:35:49,671
staff and making sure that we

2732
01:35:46,968 --> 01:35:51,773
focus who are qualified to do

2733
01:35:49,738 --> 01:35:52,707
you know training period to do

2734
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,210
that as well.

2735
01:35:52,774 --> 01:35:58,346
» speaker:  is there flexibility

2736
01:35:55,277 --> 01:35:59,281
contemplating the rfp as you

2737
01:35:58,413 --> 01:36:00,815
know best location and that

2738
01:35:59,347 --> 01:36:03,652
interface are you looking for

2739
01:36:00,882 --> 01:36:06,454
the potential bidders to provide

2740
01:36:03,719 --> 01:36:06,888
creatity or is it going to be

2741
01:36:06,521 --> 01:36:08,290
prescriptive?

2742
01:36:06,955 --> 01:36:09,857
» speaker:  we have the site

2743
01:36:08,356 --> 01:36:12,027
mapped out in the presentation

2744
01:36:09,924 --> 01:36:15,063
if you would like to see that we

2745
01:36:12,094 --> 01:36:17,866
show the differentiateiation

2746
01:36:15,130 --> 01:36:19,734
between where the firefighters

2747
01:36:17,933 --> 01:36:22,403
access and reservoir for dipping

2748
01:36:19,801 --> 01:36:25,239
where the floating solar panels

2749
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:27,342
would be that's fairly coated

2750
01:36:25,306 --> 01:36:29,044
and fairly hard coated so

2751
01:36:27,409 --> 01:36:32,080
specifically because of the need

2752
01:36:29,111 --> 01:36:33,815
for reservoir to remain fully

2753
01:36:32,147 --> 01:36:35,750
available for firefighting at

2754
01:36:33,882 --> 01:36:37,352
all times are quite a distance

2755
01:36:35,817 --> 01:36:38,720
from each other within the

2756
01:36:37,419 --> 01:36:41,756
reservoir and fire department is

2757
01:36:38,787 --> 01:36:44,159
assured that they don't have

2758
01:36:41,823 --> 01:36:44,826
concerns about the location.

2759
01:36:44,226 --> 01:36:47,862
» nurit katz:  if I remember

2760
01:36:44,893 --> 01:36:51,199
correctly about 10% of the

2761
01:36:47,929 --> 01:36:54,402
reservoir surface area is tucked

2762
01:36:51,266 --> 01:36:58,306
in an inlet that would not be

2763
01:36:54,469 --> 01:37:00,775
suitable for super scoopers?

2764
01:36:58,373 --> 01:37:02,577
» tim o'connor:     may I offer

2765
01:37:00,842 --> 01:37:04,679
a comment thank you having met

2766
01:37:02,644 --> 01:37:06,280
with the team at the department

2767
01:37:04,746 --> 01:37:07,315
received this presentation and

2768
01:37:06,347 --> 01:37:08,583
identified one area when you

2769
01:37:07,382 --> 01:37:10,752
think about floating solar there

2770
01:37:08,650 --> 01:37:13,087
is a lot of benefits that can

2771
01:37:10,818 --> 01:37:14,889
occur such as improved

2772
01:37:13,154 --> 01:37:17,959
efficiency of panels themselves

2773
01:37:14,956 --> 01:37:19,661
because of cooling that's

2774
01:37:18,026 --> 01:37:21,796
associated with the underlying

2775
01:37:19,728 --> 01:37:24,065
water calling us a pilot is also

2776
01:37:21,896 --> 01:37:25,500
important whereas you know the

2777
01:37:24,132 --> 01:37:26,701
54 tends future projects

2778
01:37:25,567 --> 01:37:28,503
commissioner tran you talked

2779
01:37:26,768 --> 01:37:30,204
about scale I would suggest that

2780
01:37:28,570 --> 01:37:31,873
there are many different sites

2781
01:37:30,271 --> 01:37:33,708
across the region are suitable

2782
01:37:31,940 --> 01:37:35,109
for local solar and some of

2783
01:37:33,774 --> 01:37:36,711
those will probably be coming

2784
01:37:35,176 --> 01:37:38,179
before the board soon and

2785
01:37:36,778 --> 01:37:40,215
they're going to have different

2786
01:37:38,246 --> 01:37:41,883
cost profiles I would only ask

2787
01:37:40,282 --> 01:37:43,351
the team to talk about the cost

2788
01:37:41,950 --> 01:37:44,219
profile of this type of project

2789
01:37:43,418 --> 01:37:47,188
compared to other types of

2790
01:37:44,285 --> 01:37:49,624
projects because of course we

2791
01:37:47,255 --> 01:37:51,392
see in very significant projects

2792
01:37:49,691 --> 01:37:53,928
the change in tax credits and

2793
01:37:51,459 --> 01:37:57,432
tariffs    it's changing the

2794
01:37:53,995 --> 01:37:59,534
cost profile and would just ask

2795
01:37:57,499 --> 01:38:02,570
if the team could talk briefly

2796
01:37:59,601 --> 01:38:04,606
about the price per kilowatt or

2797
01:38:02,637 --> 01:38:06,107
what you would expect rate

2798
01:38:04,673 --> 01:38:10,879
payers would experience in terms

2799
01:38:06,174 --> 01:38:12,080
of competitiveness and this type

2800
01:38:10,946 --> 01:38:13,715
of energy versus others.

2801
01:38:12,147 --> 01:38:16,050
» speaker:  high-level I'll turn

2802
01:38:13,782 --> 01:38:17,952
it over to the team here so loss

2803
01:38:16,117 --> 01:38:19,187
of tax credits impact the

2804
01:38:18,019 --> 01:38:21,189
projects whether they're

2805
01:38:19,254 --> 01:38:23,624
floating solar or ground mount

2806
01:38:21,255 --> 01:38:26,194
or roof mount in any case the

2807
01:38:23,691 --> 01:38:27,962
storage is the same so that's

2808
01:38:26,261 --> 01:38:30,331
pretty much a wash between

2809
01:38:28,029 --> 01:38:33,534
installation type set ups now

2810
01:38:30,398 --> 01:38:35,369
specific to this project we run

2811
01:38:33,601 --> 01:38:38,406
analysis to estimate the 24

2812
01:38:35,436 --> 01:38:41,643
million or so we're pricing out.

2813
01:38:38,473 --> 01:38:44,011
» speaker:  the 24 million or so

2814
01:38:41,710 --> 01:38:45,280
that covers not only solar but

2815
01:38:44,078 --> 01:38:47,749
also energy storage and the

2816
01:38:45,347 --> 01:38:48,984
small ground mount system that's

2817
01:38:47,816 --> 01:38:50,318
nearby.  I don't know the exact

2818
01:38:49,050 --> 01:38:52,353
there per kilowatt for the

2819
01:38:50,385 --> 01:38:54,422
floating solar piece but when we

2820
01:38:52,420 --> 01:38:57,058
did the analysis, the team

2821
01:38:54,489 --> 01:38:58,826
reported to me that it was

2822
01:38:57,125 --> 01:39:00,728
comparable to a carport solar

2823
01:38:58,893 --> 01:39:02,530
system which we have all over

2824
01:39:00,795 --> 01:39:03,431
the city.

2825
01:39:02,597 --> 01:39:05,099
» speaker:  and also mention

2826
01:39:03,498 --> 01:39:07,101
this is, again, we don't have

2827
01:39:05,166 --> 01:39:08,836
any bids yet, this is to get

2828
01:39:07,168 --> 01:39:12,073
approval from the city council

2829
01:39:08,903 --> 01:39:13,641
to issue a 10-year rfp so that's

2830
01:39:12,139 --> 01:39:14,709
where we'll get specifics in

2831
01:39:13,708 --> 01:39:16,811
terms of multiple bids with

2832
01:39:14,775 --> 01:39:18,813
these components and the labor

2833
01:39:16,878 --> 01:39:20,949
priced out specifically.  So

2834
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,382
it's pretty ballpark at this

2835
01:39:21,016 --> 01:39:23,051
point.

2836
01:39:21,449 --> 01:39:27,088
» tim o'connor:  yes, thank you.

2837
01:39:23,118 --> 01:39:29,591
just, in closing, would suggest

2838
01:39:27,155 --> 01:39:31,759
that we have an all of the above

2839
01:39:29,658 --> 01:39:32,994
strategy in terms of finding

2840
01:39:31,859 --> 01:39:35,029
opportunities for new emissions

2841
01:39:33,061 --> 01:39:38,099
free generation, load balancing,

2842
01:39:35,096 --> 01:39:40,268
things that can reduce the need

2843
01:39:38,166 --> 01:39:41,802
for plants like the scattergood

2844
01:39:40,335 --> 01:39:44,839
natural gas generating facility

2845
01:39:41,869 --> 01:39:46,941
and these types of projects we

2846
01:39:44,906 --> 01:39:49,110
see being both in the ratepayer

2847
01:39:47,008 --> 01:39:50,144
best interest, but in the

2848
01:39:49,177 --> 01:39:52,914
ability of the department to

2849
01:39:50,211 --> 01:39:56,284
move forward to accommodate

2850
01:39:52,981 --> 01:39:58,586
increased load growth as we

2851
01:39:56,351 --> 01:40:00,555
suggest in coming years.

2852
01:39:58,653 --> 01:40:04,959
» speaker:  if I could add to

2853
01:40:00,622 --> 01:40:06,460
mr. O'connor's comment, us being

2854
01:40:05,025 --> 01:40:09,197
dwp joint departments of water

2855
01:40:06,527 --> 01:40:11,532
and for this is one of those

2856
01:40:09,263 --> 01:40:13,367
unique projects where we have

2857
01:40:11,599 --> 01:40:14,302
opportunity to leverage

2858
01:40:13,434 --> 01:40:17,171
reservoirs especially

2859
01:40:14,369 --> 01:40:18,106
non-potable areas so this is the

2860
01:40:17,238 --> 01:40:19,640
50 pilot project that's unique

2861
01:40:18,173 --> 01:40:21,276
but also when we're looking at

2862
01:40:19,707 --> 01:40:23,411
facilities within the city of la

2863
01:40:21,343 --> 01:40:25,379
and local how do we impact our

2864
01:40:23,478 --> 01:40:27,248
local grid this is an important

2865
01:40:25,446 --> 01:40:30,551
project where we can deploy this

2866
01:40:27,315 --> 01:40:33,454
much faster than traditional

2867
01:40:30,618 --> 01:40:37,625
solar rooftop carport grounds

2868
01:40:33,521 --> 01:40:38,659
mount so when looking at cost

2869
01:40:37,692 --> 01:40:40,394
comparisons and having almost

2870
01:40:38,726 --> 01:40:41,996
identical or less cost compared

2871
01:40:40,461 --> 01:40:44,899
to when we can do at other

2872
01:40:42,063 --> 01:40:46,067
facilities but in a much faster

2873
01:40:44,966 --> 01:40:48,102
deployment I just would like to

2874
01:40:46,134 --> 01:40:49,270
say that piece so that's taken

2875
01:40:48,169 --> 01:40:50,605
into consideration as well.

2876
01:40:49,337 --> 01:40:52,206
» nurit katz:  thank you.  And I

2877
01:40:50,672 --> 01:40:53,741
think given the urgency of our

2878
01:40:52,273 --> 01:40:55,176
targets and scope of what we

2879
01:40:53,808 --> 01:40:57,078
have ahead of us that speed

2880
01:40:55,243 --> 01:40:58,813
matters.  So this is an exciting

2881
01:40:57,145 --> 01:40:59,714
project.  I just want to call

2882
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,682
your attention and I'll sends

2883
01:40:59,781 --> 01:41:03,217
you an e-mail with a link but

2884
01:41:01,749 --> 01:41:05,119
there was a recent peer reviewed

2885
01:41:03,284 --> 01:41:06,454
study that modeled floating

2886
01:41:05,186 --> 01:41:07,488
solar in terms of potential

2887
01:41:06,521 --> 01:41:09,024
environmental impact, which of

2888
01:41:07,555 --> 01:41:14,762
course is also very important to

2889
01:41:09,090 --> 01:41:15,429
the department, and they did

2890
01:41:14,829 --> 01:41:17,098
find significant differential,

2891
01:41:15,496 --> 01:41:18,800
in turn, that's related to the

2892
01:41:17,165 --> 01:41:20,701
amount of coverage, so I want to

2893
01:41:18,867 --> 01:41:21,770
make sure that study is

2894
01:41:20,768 --> 01:41:22,903
informative as we're thinking

2895
01:41:21,836 --> 01:41:25,406
about balancing all of these

2896
01:41:22,970 --> 01:41:29,010
things in planning these

2897
01:41:25,473 --> 01:41:31,813
projects, of course fire use of

2898
01:41:29,077 --> 01:41:32,713
reservoirs but also important

2899
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,948
environmental impact so I'll

2900
01:41:32,780 --> 01:41:35,883
senilities the study along and

2901
01:41:34,015 --> 01:41:37,585
really looking forward to the

2902
01:41:35,950 --> 01:41:38,253
outcome of this pilot.

2903
01:41:37,652 --> 01:41:39,353
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

2904
01:41:38,319 --> 01:41:41,288
for adding that you really stay

2905
01:41:39,420 --> 01:41:44,292
up on this and I know the

2906
01:41:41,355 --> 01:41:46,360
department appreciates it very

2907
01:41:44,359 --> 01:41:47,796
much.  Is there any other

2908
01:41:46,427 --> 01:41:50,098
questions with this or otherwise

2909
01:41:47,862 --> 01:41:52,366
I'll call for a vote on it.

2910
01:41:50,164 --> 01:41:55,369
» speaker:  I move that we

2911
01:41:52,433 --> 01:41:56,004
approve this item.

2912
01:41:55,436 --> 01:41:56,671
» nurit katz:  second.

2913
01:41:56,071 --> 01:41:57,205
» com. Wilma pinder:  item six.

2914
01:41:56,738 --> 01:41:58,539
» board secretary, chante

2915
01:41:57,272 --> 01:42:00,107
mitchell:  may I call the roll

2916
01:41:58,606 --> 01:42:00,608
please?  Commissioner katz?

2917
01:42:00,174 --> 01:42:01,175
» nurit katz:  aye.

2918
01:42:00,674 --> 01:42:02,510
» board secretary, chante

2919
01:42:01,242 --> 01:42:02,944
mitchell:  marks?

2920
01:42:02,577 --> 01:42:03,478
» allan t. Marks:

2921
01:42:03,011 --> 01:42:03,945
» board secretary, chante

2922
01:42:03,545 --> 01:42:04,879
mitchell:  pinder?

2923
01:42:04,012 --> 01:42:05,413
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

2924
01:42:04,946 --> 01:42:06,414
» board secretary, chante

2925
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:07,315
mitchell:  tran?

2926
01:42:06,481 --> 01:42:07,849
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

2927
01:42:07,382 --> 01:42:08,616
» board secretary, chante

2928
01:42:07,916 --> 01:42:09,217
mitchell:  motion adopted.

2929
01:42:08,683 --> 01:42:11,052
» com. Wilma pinder:  and I

2930
01:42:09,284 --> 01:42:13,554
thank you commissioner tran on

2931
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,889
your very first day, that proves

2932
01:42:13,621 --> 01:42:17,325
that people are reading these

2933
01:42:14,956 --> 01:42:19,427
things before we come out here.

2934
01:42:17,392 --> 01:42:20,728
and we appreciate you digging

2935
01:42:19,494 --> 01:42:21,562
in.  And I particularly

2936
01:42:20,795 --> 01:42:24,565
appreciate the ratepayer

2937
01:42:21,629 --> 01:42:27,669
advocate who, obviously, has

2938
01:42:24,632 --> 01:42:29,203
gone and dug in even further and

2939
01:42:27,736 --> 01:42:30,638
able to call for that additional

2940
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:31,873
information being on the record.

2941
01:42:30,705 --> 01:42:34,408
thank you very much, both of

2942
01:42:31,940 --> 01:42:37,778
you.  Now, there is also moving

2943
01:42:34,475 --> 01:42:38,413
on then, to number eight.  No.

2944
01:42:37,845 --> 01:42:39,947
you're still --

2945
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,616
» speaker:  this will be the

2946
01:42:40,014 --> 01:42:41,883
same group responding to number

2947
01:42:41,683 --> 01:42:42,550
eight.

2948
01:42:41,950 --> 01:42:44,418
» com. Wilma pinder:  I thawed

2949
01:42:42,617 --> 01:42:44,852
we were rid of them.

2950
01:42:44,485 --> 01:42:47,021
[laughter]

2951
01:42:44,919 --> 01:42:48,522
same group.  Number eight.

2952
01:42:47,088 --> 01:42:50,291
yeah, they were too charming and

2953
01:42:48,589 --> 01:42:53,227
too good.  I thought we had

2954
01:42:50,358 --> 01:42:55,462
someone else to beat up on.  All

2955
01:42:53,294 --> 01:42:56,864
right.  Number eight, please.

2956
01:42:55,529 --> 01:42:58,566
» benny b. Tran:  just same in

2957
01:42:56,931 --> 01:43:00,568
terms of questions for now.

2958
01:42:58,633 --> 01:43:02,269
this general item, are there

2959
01:43:00,635 --> 01:43:06,974
currently projects in mind that

2960
01:43:02,336 --> 01:43:08,376
you will be pursuing under this

2961
01:43:07,041 --> 01:43:09,577
ordinance, is my first question.

2962
01:43:08,443 --> 01:43:11,245
I have a second question.

2963
01:43:09,644 --> 01:43:14,448
» speaker:  so, we have a lot of

2964
01:43:11,312 --> 01:43:17,318
flexibility with this.  A few

2965
01:43:14,515 --> 01:43:19,087
years back we approved three

2966
01:43:17,385 --> 01:43:21,723
mou's with our sister

2967
01:43:19,154 --> 01:43:23,524
departments, the department of

2968
01:43:21,790 --> 01:43:24,625
gsd, general services

2969
01:43:23,591 --> 01:43:25,726
department, and la recreation

2970
01:43:24,692 --> 01:43:27,628
and parks those three

2971
01:43:25,793 --> 01:43:29,464
departments and with those mou's

2972
01:43:27,695 --> 01:43:31,766
really opened the door for us to

2973
01:43:29,531 --> 01:43:34,836
install got only on our own

2974
01:43:31,833 --> 01:43:36,370
facilities, but their

2975
01:43:34,903 --> 01:43:38,506
facilities, and the projects

2976
01:43:36,437 --> 01:43:40,007
will be front of the meter, and

2977
01:43:38,573 --> 01:43:41,943
they allow us to install energy

2978
01:43:40,074 --> 01:43:44,211
storage, solar, and ev chargers

2979
01:43:42,009 --> 01:43:46,814
on their properties.  So, do we

2980
01:43:44,278 --> 01:43:48,916
have anything in mind?  Not

2981
01:43:46,881 --> 01:43:50,451
particularly.  We're still

2982
01:43:48,983 --> 01:43:52,186
evaluating how many of the

2983
01:43:50,518 --> 01:43:55,189
facilities we'll install the

2984
01:43:52,253 --> 01:43:57,692
der's on, and to what scale.

2985
01:43:55,256 --> 01:44:00,194
but we think in the ordinance we

2986
01:43:57,759 --> 01:44:02,330
requested, I think it was 500

2987
01:44:00,261 --> 01:44:04,565
commercial level facilities, and

2988
01:44:02,397 --> 01:44:05,833
these mou's unclocked over a

2989
01:44:04,632 --> 01:44:07,134
thousand facilities that we can

2990
01:44:05,900 --> 01:44:09,337
choose from.  So we're really

2991
01:44:07,201 --> 01:44:12,540
going to pick the best ones, the

2992
01:44:09,404 --> 01:44:14,909
ones that have the most rooftop

2993
01:44:12,607 --> 01:44:16,477
area, the ones with the most

2994
01:44:14,976 --> 01:44:17,645
adequate roofing, biggest

2995
01:44:16,544 --> 01:44:20,681
parking lots, et cetera.

2996
01:44:17,712 --> 01:44:22,683
» speaker:  and just to add to

2997
01:44:20,748 --> 01:44:25,085
what was mentioned, it's over

2998
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:27,488
1500 sites that these mou's

2999
01:44:25,152 --> 01:44:30,224
unlock that we can tap into for

3000
01:44:27,555 --> 01:44:32,660
cooling centers first responder

3001
01:44:30,291 --> 01:44:34,428
to build micro grid systems to

3002
01:44:32,727 --> 01:44:36,797
make our city more resilient.

3003
01:44:34,495 --> 01:44:38,633
and with those 1500, we actually

3004
01:44:36,864 --> 01:44:41,202
have done a preliminary.  So, we

3005
01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:44,705
have ruled out, you know, there

3006
01:44:41,269 --> 01:44:47,575
are so many that we rank as good

3007
01:44:44,772 --> 01:44:49,877
site versus maybe a b site that

3008
01:44:47,642 --> 01:44:52,413
needs a bit more work before we

3009
01:44:49,944 --> 01:44:55,216
can get to t so we don't have

3010
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:56,350
every single ranked out because

3011
01:44:55,283 --> 01:44:58,152
that's something that we're

3012
01:44:56,417 --> 01:45:00,755
looking to accomplish with this

3013
01:44:58,219 --> 01:45:01,055
rfp but we have done preliminary

3014
01:45:00,822 --> 01:45:03,491
koreanings.

3015
01:45:01,122 --> 01:45:04,525
» speaker:  I think I know what

3016
01:45:03,558 --> 01:45:06,627
you're getting at.  Identifying

3017
01:45:04,592 --> 01:45:08,796
those facilities is going to

3018
01:45:06,694 --> 01:45:11,465
take a long time the way this

3019
01:45:08,863 --> 01:45:13,367
we're writing the rfp is such a

3020
01:45:11,532 --> 01:45:15,402
way that there is bank of

3021
01:45:13,434 --> 01:45:18,639
vendors who are approved and

3022
01:45:15,469 --> 01:45:21,275
when we're thinking is issuing a

3023
01:45:18,706 --> 01:45:23,477
handsful of projects at a time

3024
01:45:21,342 --> 01:45:25,779
getting the best bid, 50

3025
01:45:23,544 --> 01:45:27,915
identifying then issuing it and

3026
01:45:25,846 --> 01:45:30,050
sees where project costs are

3027
01:45:27,982 --> 01:45:33,621
most efficient so I think that

3028
01:45:30,117 --> 01:45:34,588
will shorten the timeline a lot.

3029
01:45:33,688 --> 01:45:37,625
» allan t. Marks:  may I follow

3030
01:45:34,655 --> 01:45:39,560
up with a question on that?

3031
01:45:37,692 --> 01:45:41,028
» com. Wilma pinder:  sure.

3032
01:45:39,627 --> 01:45:42,162
» allan t. Marks:  there is

3033
01:45:41,095 --> 01:45:43,731
tradeoff between flexibility

3034
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:46,400
doing lots of little ones with

3035
01:45:43,798 --> 01:45:48,869
approved bank of vendors and

3036
01:45:46,467 --> 01:45:52,072
economies of scale?  They can't

3037
01:45:48,936 --> 01:45:53,540
do them all at once how are you

3038
01:45:52,139 --> 01:45:54,775
addressing that?

3039
01:45:53,607 --> 01:45:57,444
» speaker:  based on research

3040
01:45:54,842 --> 01:45:58,713
issuing 100 facilities is

3041
01:45:57,511 --> 01:46:01,015
typically too much for them to

3042
01:45:58,779 --> 01:46:03,817
bite off at once we're trying to

3043
01:46:01,082 --> 01:46:06,220
find the sweet spot we're

3044
01:46:03,884 --> 01:46:08,255
working with vendor to find a

3045
01:46:06,287 --> 01:46:10,324
sweet spot we think it will be

3046
01:46:08,322 --> 01:46:12,493
anywhere between 5 and 10

3047
01:46:10,391 --> 01:46:15,562
facilities at a time they also

3048
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:17,164
need projects to be bankable

3049
01:46:15,629 --> 01:46:19,800
that means procure materials

3050
01:46:17,231 --> 01:46:22,803
ahead of time in bulk so their

3051
01:46:19,867 --> 01:46:24,104
economies of scale go down.

3052
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:25,773
» speaker:  we have some really

3053
01:46:24,171 --> 01:46:27,541
good lessonings learned from

3054
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,143
having done one of these

3055
01:46:27,608 --> 01:46:31,412
projects internally ourselves

3056
01:46:29,210 --> 01:46:33,981
green meadow which stephanie

3057
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,383
here has personally led so we're

3058
01:46:34,048 --> 01:46:36,851
incorporating lessons learned

3059
01:46:35,449 --> 01:46:39,120
from that project green meadows

3060
01:46:36,917 --> 01:46:42,189
in south la it's solar storage

3061
01:46:39,187 --> 01:46:43,958
ev chargers and lots of

3062
01:46:42,256 --> 01:46:45,793
complexities with that micro

3063
01:46:44,025 --> 01:46:48,129
grid I believe and so those

3064
01:46:45,860 --> 01:46:49,863
lessons learned feed into and

3065
01:46:48,196 --> 01:46:52,466
will be managing issuing

3066
01:46:49,930 --> 01:46:52,766
managing this much larger

3067
01:46:52,533 --> 01:46:53,934
initiative.

3068
01:46:52,833 --> 01:46:56,303
» allan t. Marks:  I think this

3069
01:46:54,001 --> 01:46:59,740
is a terrific idea I did have

3070
01:46:56,370 --> 01:47:01,509
one other related question.

3071
01:46:59,807 --> 01:47:03,710
» speaker:  also related to cost

3072
01:47:01,576 --> 01:47:06,013
we're going to be having a bench

3073
01:47:03,777 --> 01:47:07,514
this is going to be up to

3074
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,350
possibly four vendors so every

3075
01:47:07,581 --> 01:47:11,886
single project that we do for

3076
01:47:09,417 --> 01:47:12,620
these kinds of community

3077
01:47:11,953 --> 01:47:15,222
resiliency projects will be bid

3078
01:47:12,687 --> 01:47:17,925
against these vendors.  So it

3079
01:47:15,289 --> 01:47:18,625
maintains that cost

3080
01:47:17,992 --> 01:47:20,528
competitiveness.

3081
01:47:18,692 --> 01:47:22,796
» allan t. Marks:  and for the

3082
01:47:20,595 --> 01:47:25,633
rfp you mentioned solar pv,

3083
01:47:22,863 --> 01:47:26,800
energy storage ev charging and

3084
01:47:25,700 --> 01:47:28,736
microgrids, has -- especially

3085
01:47:26,867 --> 01:47:30,438
with fleets and ev vehicles that

3086
01:47:28,803 --> 01:47:33,074
are city owned, whether it's dwp

3087
01:47:30,505 --> 01:47:35,343
or other departments, are you --

3088
01:47:33,141 --> 01:47:36,077
when the technology allows for

3089
01:47:35,410 --> 01:47:37,478
bidirectional charging, is that

3090
01:47:36,144 --> 01:47:38,345
going to be incorporated into

3091
01:47:37,545 --> 01:47:39,580
this as well?

3092
01:47:38,412 --> 01:47:41,382
» speaker:  it's certainly a

3093
01:47:39,647 --> 01:47:43,784
possibility, right?  We have

3094
01:47:41,449 --> 01:47:45,519
issued programs in the past,

3095
01:47:43,851 --> 01:47:49,290
commercial energy storage to

3096
01:47:45,586 --> 01:47:51,859
grid which unlocked b to g we're

3097
01:47:49,357 --> 01:47:53,694
learning a lot from that program

3098
01:47:51,926 --> 01:47:56,797
uptake and all complaints that

3099
01:47:53,761 --> 01:47:58,465
vendors have, so it's

3100
01:47:56,864 --> 01:48:02,937
open-ended.  We can the first

3101
01:47:58,532 --> 01:48:03,971
year issue this rfp have certain

3102
01:48:03,004 --> 01:48:07,341
specifications and next year

3103
01:48:04,038 --> 01:48:10,411
when v to g matures more and

3104
01:48:07,408 --> 01:48:13,848
costs come down it makes more

3105
01:48:10,477 --> 01:48:18,018
sense we change the scope in

3106
01:48:13,914 --> 01:48:19,720
order for the energy start ev

3107
01:48:18,085 --> 01:48:22,890
chargers to be bidirectional.

3108
01:48:19,787 --> 01:48:23,524
really important for us too.

3109
01:48:22,957 --> 01:48:25,726
» benny b. Tran:  couple more

3110
01:48:23,591 --> 01:48:28,062
questions in terms of equity

3111
01:48:25,793 --> 01:48:31,632
looking at city of los angeles

3112
01:48:28,129 --> 01:48:33,801
we had a lot with this at recs

3113
01:48:31,699 --> 01:48:36,070
and parks, what kind of weight

3114
01:48:33,868 --> 01:48:37,371
do you give how do you analyze

3115
01:48:36,137 --> 01:48:38,739
underserved communities and talk

3116
01:48:37,438 --> 01:48:40,308
about economically underserved

3117
01:48:38,806 --> 01:48:43,144
in terms of how you roll this

3118
01:48:40,374 --> 01:48:46,347
out you mentioned south la we're

3119
01:48:43,211 --> 01:48:48,048
glad to hear that do you have

3120
01:48:46,414 --> 01:48:51,385
this lens or kind of filter when

3121
01:48:48,115 --> 01:48:53,087
you look at how you pick what

3122
01:48:51,452 --> 01:48:55,389
projects when and where?

3123
01:48:53,154 --> 01:48:58,025
» speaker:  we do look at this I

3124
01:48:55,456 --> 01:48:59,460
think sb535 that has the map of

3125
01:48:58,091 --> 01:49:01,495
the disadvantaged communities

3126
01:48:59,527 --> 01:49:03,030
our goal is to deploy the best

3127
01:49:01,562 --> 01:49:05,532
possible sites for grid

3128
01:49:03,097 --> 01:49:07,801
operators to use for them to

3129
01:49:05,599 --> 01:49:09,069
utilize and connect to our der

3130
01:49:07,868 --> 01:49:11,705
management system and in such a

3131
01:49:09,136 --> 01:49:13,874
way that mostly prioritizes the

3132
01:49:11,772 --> 01:49:16,510
distribution system that's going

3133
01:49:13,941 --> 01:49:17,978
to be our primary ism thes but

3134
01:49:16,577 --> 01:49:21,748
we do have the ability to fit

3135
01:49:18,045 --> 01:49:23,417
out for projects within dac's.

3136
01:49:21,815 --> 01:49:25,119
» speaker:  I would also add

3137
01:49:23,484 --> 01:49:26,487
that prime workforce development

3138
01:49:25,186 --> 01:49:30,491
component of this is all work

3139
01:49:26,554 --> 01:49:31,959
will be conducted under apla

3140
01:49:30,558 --> 01:49:34,094
project labor agreement all

3141
01:49:32,026 --> 01:49:37,631
local trades for work duration

3142
01:49:34,161 --> 01:49:38,799
of the contract all ibw local 11

3143
01:49:37,698 --> 01:49:41,635
and associated other trades that

3144
01:49:38,866 --> 01:49:43,437
are part of the pla, then our

3145
01:49:41,702 --> 01:49:45,606
forces take on, we continue --

3146
01:49:43,503 --> 01:49:47,074
we will own these assets for the

3147
01:49:45,673 --> 01:49:48,575
duration and then as our folks

3148
01:49:47,140 --> 01:49:49,577
take on maintenance and

3149
01:49:48,642 --> 01:49:53,747
operations of course it will be

3150
01:49:49,644 --> 01:49:54,982
dwp staff and folks.  So, it's a

3151
01:49:53,814 --> 01:49:57,451
little bit less geographically

3152
01:49:55,049 --> 01:50:00,554
focused from the dac or equity

3153
01:49:57,518 --> 01:50:03,557
standpoint, it doesn't mean we

3154
01:50:00,621 --> 01:50:05,192
won't be doing that we can do na

3155
01:50:03,624 --> 01:50:06,793
and we will do that.  Given

3156
01:50:05,259 --> 01:50:09,630
focus on distribution system

3157
01:50:06,860 --> 01:50:11,398
balancing that's probably first

3158
01:50:09,697 --> 01:50:14,701
priority locationally, second

3159
01:50:11,465 --> 01:50:16,403
priority will absolutely be

3160
01:50:14,768 --> 01:50:18,405
equitably spread across the city

3161
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:20,474
location, geographically but the

3162
01:50:18,472 --> 01:50:22,209
big play is the building

3163
01:50:20,541 --> 01:50:23,844
opportunity for the local labor

3164
01:50:22,276 --> 01:50:24,077
trades labor force through local

3165
01:50:23,911 --> 01:50:25,145
11.

3166
01:50:24,144 --> 01:50:26,547
» com. Wilma pinder:  I have a

3167
01:50:25,212 --> 01:50:29,216
quick question, and I hope I'm

3168
01:50:26,614 --> 01:50:31,886
still at the relevant place you

3169
01:50:29,283 --> 01:50:32,886
did have language that said at

3170
01:50:31,953 --> 01:50:33,520
the moment ladwp has

3171
01:50:32,953 --> 01:50:35,222
insufficient department

3172
01:50:33,587 --> 01:50:38,259
personnel available.  That is a

3173
01:50:35,289 --> 01:50:40,528
line in there, correct?  I mean,

3174
01:50:38,326 --> 01:50:42,596
were we ever going to have such

3175
01:50:40,595 --> 01:50:44,665
personnel?  Or is it kind of a

3176
01:50:42,663 --> 01:50:46,800
pie in the sky, sort of, thing?

3177
01:50:44,732 --> 01:50:49,870
» speaker:  no, it absolutely

3178
01:50:46,867 --> 01:50:51,772
will buzz because that will be

3179
01:50:49,936 --> 01:50:54,508
our commitment to local 18 when

3180
01:50:51,839 --> 01:50:56,176
we approve contracts when we

3181
01:50:54,575 --> 01:50:58,379
goat to this stage local 18

3182
01:50:56,243 --> 01:50:59,680
won't issue compliance for these

3183
01:50:58,446 --> 01:51:00,981
contracts when we're ready to

3184
01:50:59,747 --> 01:51:02,783
bring to the board if we don't

3185
01:51:01,048 --> 01:51:04,851
have a staffing plan basically

3186
01:51:02,850 --> 01:51:06,887
loa that we can commit to staff

3187
01:51:04,918 --> 01:51:08,489
up to take these over.

3188
01:51:06,954 --> 01:51:09,489
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

3189
01:51:08,556 --> 01:51:11,725
that's very important for

3190
01:51:09,556 --> 01:51:13,927
something ongoing I thought am I

3191
01:51:11,792 --> 01:51:16,263
reading that right?  I thought

3192
01:51:13,994 --> 01:51:16,797
at the moment ladwp has

3193
01:51:16,330 --> 01:51:19,300
insufficient department

3194
01:51:16,864 --> 01:51:22,736
personnel available to

3195
01:51:19,366 --> 01:51:25,505
accelerate, blah, de, blah, de,

3196
01:51:22,803 --> 01:51:27,208
blah.  So there is a plan to

3197
01:51:25,572 --> 01:51:29,943
have that personnel available.

3198
01:51:27,275 --> 01:51:31,878
» speaker:  that's in the works

3199
01:51:30,010 --> 01:51:34,682
a group called emerging

3200
01:51:31,945 --> 01:51:35,749
technologies group which is

3201
01:51:34,749 --> 01:51:40,754
rapidly expanding personnel to

3202
01:51:35,816 --> 01:51:42,856
support this commitment will be

3203
01:51:40,821 --> 01:51:44,124
done.

3204
01:51:42,923 --> 01:51:45,692
» speaker:  the contract package

3205
01:51:44,191 --> 01:51:47,128
we'll bring to the board in a

3206
01:51:45,759 --> 01:51:47,828
year or so.

3207
01:51:47,194 --> 01:51:52,967
» com. Wilma pinder:  that was

3208
01:51:47,895 --> 01:51:55,502
my concern.  Any other questions

3209
01:51:53,034 --> 01:51:56,303
or discussion on this?

3210
01:51:55,569 --> 01:51:57,438
» benny b. Tran:  last question

3211
01:51:56,370 --> 01:52:01,475
if I didn't read by the way if

3212
01:51:57,504 --> 01:52:04,411
you need to pass on the answer

3213
01:52:01,542 --> 01:52:07,815
if you can.  This funded by the

3214
01:52:04,478 --> 01:52:08,448
federal government by doa

3215
01:52:07,882 --> 01:52:10,384
correct?

3216
01:52:08,515 --> 01:52:13,787
» speaker:  might have been left

3217
01:52:10,451 --> 01:52:15,723
in there prior to I believe the

3218
01:52:13,854 --> 01:52:18,392
trump administration canceled

3219
01:52:15,790 --> 01:52:19,927
all dob funding that was awarded

3220
01:52:18,459 --> 01:52:21,628
to applicants through grip grant

3221
01:52:19,994 --> 01:52:23,297
2023 so those are billions of

3222
01:52:21,695 --> 01:52:24,565
dollars that are no longer part

3223
01:52:23,364 --> 01:52:25,732
of the play.

3224
01:52:24,632 --> 01:52:29,703
» benny b. Tran:  so this will

3225
01:52:25,799 --> 01:52:30,638
be self-funded program by dwp.

3226
01:52:29,770 --> 01:52:31,405
» speaker:  that's correct.

3227
01:52:30,704 --> 01:52:32,840
» benny b. Tran:  thank you.

3228
01:52:31,472 --> 01:52:33,474
they all I have.

3229
01:52:32,907 --> 01:52:35,175
» com. Wilma pinder:  you're not

3230
01:52:33,541 --> 01:52:36,877
-- you're not taking any

3231
01:52:35,242 --> 01:52:38,445
prisoners federal funding really

3232
01:52:36,944 --> 01:52:40,581
bringing up something.  All

3233
01:52:38,512 --> 01:52:40,848
right.

3234
01:52:40,648 --> 01:52:43,450
[laughter]

3235
01:52:40,915 --> 01:52:46,320
good.  With that full discussion

3236
01:52:43,517 --> 01:52:49,323
we thank you for it.  Calling

3237
01:52:46,387 --> 01:52:49,890
for a vote -- motion to approve.

3238
01:52:49,390 --> 01:52:50,724
» speaker:  motion.

3239
01:52:49,957 --> 01:52:51,558
» speaker:  second.

3240
01:52:50,791 --> 01:52:51,758
» com. Wilma pinder:  roll call

3241
01:52:51,625 --> 01:52:52,292
vote.

3242
01:52:51,825 --> 01:52:52,726
» board secretary, chante

3243
01:52:52,359 --> 01:52:53,727
mitchell:  katz?

3244
01:52:52,792 --> 01:52:54,261
» nurit katz:  aye.

3245
01:52:53,794 --> 01:52:54,728
» board secretary, chante

3246
01:52:54,327 --> 01:52:55,396
mitchell:  marks?

3247
01:52:54,795 --> 01:52:55,930
» allan t. Marks:

3248
01:52:55,463 --> 01:52:56,397
» board secretary, chante

3249
01:52:55,996 --> 01:52:56,997
mitchell:  pinder?

3250
01:52:56,464 --> 01:52:57,531
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

3251
01:52:57,064 --> 01:52:58,098
» board secretary, chante

3252
01:52:57,598 --> 01:52:59,066
mitchell:  tran?

3253
01:52:58,165 --> 01:52:59,600
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

3254
01:52:59,133 --> 01:53:00,467
» board secretary, chante

3255
01:52:59,667 --> 01:53:03,704
mitchell:  motion adopted.

3256
01:53:00,534 --> 01:53:04,004
» com. Wilma pinder:  so we have

3257
01:53:03,771 --> 01:53:04,605
concluded.

3258
01:53:04,071 --> 01:53:05,806
» speaker:  thank you.

3259
01:53:04,672 --> 01:53:07,674
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

3260
01:53:05,873 --> 01:53:09,543
now this is a lengthy part for

3261
01:53:07,741 --> 01:53:10,544
the new commissioner -- this is

3262
01:53:09,609 --> 01:53:14,815
when management usually makes

3263
01:53:10,611 --> 01:53:18,085
their reports.  But I want to go

3264
01:53:14,882 --> 01:53:20,788
to -- I'm going to skip ahead.

3265
01:53:18,152 --> 01:53:24,591
I'm going skip ahead to l, which

3266
01:53:20,855 --> 01:53:27,127
is the minutes.  Am I correct,

3267
01:53:24,658 --> 01:53:30,397
counsel, that we will be able to

3268
01:53:27,194 --> 01:53:31,698
approve that?  With those

3269
01:53:30,464 --> 01:53:33,700
minutes?  Although --

3270
01:53:31,765 --> 01:53:34,935
» speaker:  I see we abstain as

3271
01:53:33,767 --> 01:53:35,936
new members, correct?

3272
01:53:35,002 --> 01:53:37,404
» speaker:  if the new members

3273
01:53:36,002 --> 01:53:38,706
were to abstain there wouldn't

3274
01:53:37,471 --> 01:53:40,941
be enough votes to adopt the

3275
01:53:38,773 --> 01:53:43,810
minutes.  So, we believe that

3276
01:53:41,008 --> 01:53:48,482
you can approve the minutes on

3277
01:53:43,877 --> 01:53:51,217
your understanding    --

3278
01:53:48,549 --> 01:53:51,952
» nurit katz:  two commissioners

3279
01:53:51,284 --> 01:53:54,955
as present.

3280
01:53:52,018 --> 01:53:56,723
» speaker:  they were accurately

3281
01:53:55,022 --> 01:53:57,391
reflective of the tape recorded

3282
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:59,159
videotaped meeting.

3283
01:53:57,458 --> 01:53:59,526
» speaker:  yeah.  That makes

3284
01:53:59,226 --> 01:54:00,727
sense.

3285
01:53:59,593 --> 01:54:02,829
» com. Wilma pinder:  yes so I

3286
01:54:00,794 --> 01:54:04,465
had already inquired since I

3287
01:54:02,896 --> 01:54:05,599
knew you weren't here for that

3288
01:54:04,532 --> 01:54:06,833
meeting, but it's the

3289
01:54:05,666 --> 01:54:09,737
understanding and I'm just

3290
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:11,171
restating what I thought I

3291
01:54:09,804 --> 01:54:13,173
heard, that you were having read

3292
01:54:11,238 --> 01:54:15,709
those, and the two of us who

3293
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,745
were involved, if we agree, and

3294
01:54:15,776 --> 01:54:20,947
we feel it's -- this it's cogent

3295
01:54:17,812 --> 01:54:22,583
and correct, that you, in fact,

3296
01:54:21,014 --> 01:54:24,318
could vote if you found that

3297
01:54:22,649 --> 01:54:25,752
those meeting minutes were

3298
01:54:24,385 --> 01:54:27,621
correct.  So, I wanted to jump

3299
01:54:25,819 --> 01:54:30,024
ahead if in fact we were going

3300
01:54:27,688 --> 01:54:32,492
to take a vote on that is there

3301
01:54:30,090 --> 01:54:33,627
any unreadiness on this?

3302
01:54:32,559 --> 01:54:35,228
» nurit katz:  no.  Sounds good.

3303
01:54:33,694 --> 01:54:37,598
motion to approve the minutes of

3304
01:54:35,295 --> 01:54:38,665
the november 18th meeting?

3305
01:54:37,665 --> 01:54:39,766
» speaker:  second.

3306
01:54:38,732 --> 01:54:41,501
» com. Wilma pinder:  roll call

3307
01:54:39,833 --> 01:54:42,069
vote please.

3308
01:54:41,568 --> 01:54:42,903
» board secretary, chante

3309
01:54:42,135 --> 01:54:43,537
mitchell:  katz?

3310
01:54:42,970 --> 01:54:44,071
» nurit katz:  aye.

3311
01:54:43,604 --> 01:54:45,105
» board secretary, chante

3312
01:54:44,138 --> 01:54:45,906
mitchell:  marks?

3313
01:54:45,172 --> 01:54:46,440
» allan t. Marks:

3314
01:54:45,973 --> 01:54:46,907
» board secretary, chante

3315
01:54:46,506 --> 01:54:47,507
mitchell:  pinder?

3316
01:54:46,974 --> 01:54:48,041
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

3317
01:54:47,574 --> 01:54:48,475
» board secretary, chante

3318
01:54:48,108 --> 01:54:49,009
mitchell:  tran?

3319
01:54:48,542 --> 01:54:49,543
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

3320
01:54:49,076 --> 01:54:51,078
» board secretary, chante

3321
01:54:49,610 --> 01:54:51,378
mitchell:  four ayes motion

3322
01:54:51,145 --> 01:54:52,046
adopted.

3323
01:54:51,445 --> 01:54:53,513
» com. Wilma pinder:  all right

3324
01:54:52,112 --> 01:54:56,683
we're at the point in our agenda

3325
01:54:53,580 --> 01:55:00,320
that we're now ready for our

3326
01:54:56,750 --> 01:55:02,790
management report.  And I think

3327
01:55:00,387 --> 01:55:04,958
it's just one in this case.  Are

3328
01:55:02,857 --> 01:55:06,460
they in the audience?

3329
01:55:05,025 --> 01:55:09,563
management reports?

3330
01:55:06,527 --> 01:55:18,705
» speaker:  yes.  Let's call up

3331
01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:21,608
mr. Mike trewek, don cox to

3332
01:55:18,772 --> 01:55:24,911
review storm preparations.

3333
01:55:21,675 --> 01:55:27,948
mr. Mike is director of power

3334
01:55:24,978 --> 01:55:30,317
transmission distribution also

3335
01:55:28,015 --> 01:55:31,551
journey lineman by trade mrs.

3336
01:55:30,384 --> 01:55:32,819
don cox is the standpoint

3337
01:55:31,618 --> 01:55:33,753
director of power construction

3338
01:55:32,886 --> 01:55:37,090
and maintenance electrical

3339
01:55:33,820 --> 01:55:37,457
mechanic substation.  Take it

3340
01:55:37,157 --> 01:55:38,125
away.

3341
01:55:37,524 --> 01:55:40,294
» com. Wilma pinder:  gentlemen,

3342
01:55:38,191 --> 01:55:42,496
before you take it away, since

3343
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:45,765
we are somewhat familiar with

3344
01:55:42,563 --> 01:55:46,900
this just go through it fast,

3345
01:55:45,832 --> 01:55:48,836
main point.

3346
01:55:46,967 --> 01:55:49,470
» speaker:  yes, ma'am.

3347
01:55:48,903 --> 01:55:50,971
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

3348
01:55:49,537 --> 01:55:52,806
» speaker:  all right

3349
01:55:51,038 --> 01:55:54,808
introductions outs of the way,

3350
01:55:52,873 --> 01:55:56,710
quick overview of our five

3351
01:55:54,875 --> 01:55:57,978
phases, or steps for our storm

3352
01:55:56,777 --> 01:55:59,646
preparation.  We'll go over

3353
01:55:58,045 --> 01:56:00,147
these in the next few slides.

3354
01:55:59,713 --> 01:56:00,781
all right.

3355
01:56:00,214 --> 01:56:04,418
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

3356
01:56:00,848 --> 01:56:06,853
» speaker:  planning, we start

3357
01:56:04,485 --> 01:56:08,688
away ahead of the storm season

3358
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:10,891
entails completing open cable

3359
01:56:08,755 --> 01:56:12,926
jobs or underground distribution

3360
01:56:10,958 --> 01:56:14,294
system if that's not possible

3361
01:56:12,993 --> 01:56:16,096
we'll ensure the substructure

3362
01:56:14,361 --> 01:56:19,967
gets inspected and pumped of

3363
01:56:16,163 --> 01:56:21,268
water prior to storm season.  We

3364
01:56:20,034 --> 01:56:22,369
prioritize our system and cable

3365
01:56:21,335 --> 01:56:23,804
replacement jobs for system

3366
01:56:22,436 --> 01:56:26,006
reliability.  Our partners at

3367
01:56:23,871 --> 01:56:28,441
pcm are proactive in inspecting

3368
01:56:26,073 --> 01:56:31,512
various stations based on

3369
01:56:28,508 --> 01:56:34,848
historical data.  And monitoring

3370
01:56:31,579 --> 01:56:37,951
equipment.  Okay.  Next slide.

3371
01:56:34,915 --> 01:56:40,053
so, as the director of ptd I

3372
01:56:38,018 --> 01:56:43,790
schedule and lead the prestorm

3373
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:47,327
team meetings.  We assemble the

3374
01:56:43,857 --> 01:56:48,828
directors of our partner power

3375
01:56:47,393 --> 01:56:51,398
groups includes advanced

3376
01:56:48,895 --> 01:56:53,667
technologies of ati, pcm, of

3377
01:56:51,464 --> 01:56:55,869
course pso, office of emergency

3378
01:56:53,734 --> 01:56:58,305
management our call center and

3379
01:56:55,936 --> 01:57:00,374
pr and supply chains.  I'll

3380
01:56:58,372 --> 01:57:01,374
generally share a snapshot of

3381
01:57:00,441 --> 01:57:04,144
national weather service and

3382
01:57:01,441 --> 01:57:06,313
pending storm details so we all

3383
01:57:04,211 --> 01:57:08,481
know what to expect.  I'll ask

3384
01:57:06,380 --> 01:57:10,517
the power groups to provide a

3385
01:57:08,548 --> 01:57:11,484
duty roster of their personnel

3386
01:57:10,584 --> 01:57:12,452
they will be on shift and

3387
01:57:11,551 --> 01:57:14,621
available for my electric

3388
01:57:12,519 --> 01:57:16,222
trouble teams to be able to

3389
01:57:14,688 --> 01:57:18,325
connect with if needed.  Also

3390
01:57:16,289 --> 01:57:19,259
the rosters are provided to the

3391
01:57:18,392 --> 01:57:20,894
office of emergency management

3392
01:57:19,326 --> 01:57:25,933
and will be used in case we need

3393
01:57:20,961 --> 01:57:26,600
to open the pdoc which is the

3394
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,669
power distribution operations

3395
01:57:26,667 --> 01:57:31,404
commands should our customer

3396
01:57:29,736 --> 01:57:35,508
outages grow to a number that

3397
01:57:31,471 --> 01:57:38,645
our field personnel be get

3398
01:57:35,575 --> 01:57:41,915
stretched thin.  The pdoc often

3399
01:57:38,712 --> 01:57:43,950
stream lines communication.

3400
01:57:41,982 --> 01:57:45,485
okay.  The ptd storm response

3401
01:57:44,017 --> 01:57:47,253
includes holding over our

3402
01:57:45,552 --> 01:57:50,857
construction screws and having

3403
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:53,159
crews start at midnight.  This

3404
01:57:50,924 --> 01:57:54,961
complements our already 24/7365

3405
01:57:53,226 --> 01:57:57,831
trouble crews.  Right?  365 days

3406
01:57:55,028 --> 01:58:00,233
we have guys and gals on 24

3407
01:57:57,898 --> 01:58:01,601
hours a day, seven days a week.

3408
01:58:00,300 --> 01:58:03,470
we even activate some of our

3409
01:58:01,668 --> 01:58:05,905
smaller sections, street lining,

3410
01:58:03,537 --> 01:58:07,941
and transmission crews to

3411
01:58:05,972 --> 01:58:09,309
further    complement

3412
01:58:08,008 --> 01:58:11,345
restoration efforts.

3413
01:58:09,376 --> 01:58:13,747
at times we have even called out

3414
01:58:11,412 --> 01:58:16,082
our pole spotter groups, these

3415
01:58:13,814 --> 01:58:17,518
are cell your level single-man

3416
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:19,586
crews that will prefield larger

3417
01:58:17,584 --> 01:58:21,288
jobs so the crews know what

3418
01:58:19,653 --> 01:58:23,857
they're getting into before

3419
01:58:21,355 --> 01:58:25,525
arrival.  We have even gotten

3420
01:58:23,924 --> 01:58:27,761
our special projects engineering

3421
01:58:25,592 --> 01:58:30,296
teams out to our electric

3422
01:58:27,828 --> 01:58:38,272
trouble dispatch center to

3423
01:58:30,363 --> 01:58:41,808
assist in the sdpdispatch proce

3424
01:58:38,338 --> 01:58:42,909
and the pcm will activate their

3425
01:58:41,875 --> 01:58:44,745
mcc which is maintenance control

3426
01:58:42,976 --> 01:58:46,813
center they will put crews on

3427
01:58:44,811 --> 01:58:49,015
the five by five crew plan and

3428
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:51,051
what that means they have

3429
01:58:49,082 --> 01:58:53,954
personnel in place where needed.

3430
01:58:51,117 --> 01:58:55,255
moving on.

3431
01:58:54,021 --> 01:58:56,923
our restoration approach is

3432
01:58:55,322 --> 01:58:59,026
twofold starts at number one

3433
01:58:56,990 --> 01:59:01,829
with public safety then outage

3434
01:58:59,093 --> 01:59:03,163
numbers.  Our crews will always

3435
01:59:01,895 --> 01:59:05,298
make sure the incidentally scene

3436
01:59:03,230 --> 01:59:07,000
or area is safe for public and

3437
01:59:05,365 --> 01:59:09,269
themselves that could mean

3438
01:59:07,067 --> 01:59:10,970
having the area shut off remote

3439
01:59:09,336 --> 01:59:14,040
he by our energy control center

3440
01:59:11,037 --> 01:59:17,811
or ecc or by having first

3441
01:59:14,107 --> 01:59:21,247
responders as pd or fd stand by

3442
01:59:17,878 --> 01:59:23,383
the scene while we energize the

3443
01:59:21,314 --> 01:59:25,185
area in the field.  Pictures

3444
01:59:23,450 --> 01:59:27,921
below but see the left one

3445
01:59:25,252 --> 01:59:30,156
pulled down due to a tree far

3446
01:59:27,988 --> 01:59:31,858
right that one actually a

3447
01:59:30,223 --> 01:59:34,861
vehicle incident hit the pole

3448
01:59:31,925 --> 01:59:36,796
during the wet slick rainy sene

3449
01:59:34,928 --> 01:59:39,666
season.  Drawing your attention

3450
01:59:36,863 --> 01:59:41,067
to the center picture aren't

3451
01:59:39,733 --> 01:59:43,904
ground substructure obviously

3452
01:59:41,134 --> 01:59:47,574
flooded ten by ten by 20 feet a

3453
01:59:43,970 --> 01:59:50,844
lot of water in there that's why

3454
01:59:47,641 --> 01:59:51,945
it takes extra time for the

3455
01:59:50,911 --> 01:59:54,848
underground crews to diagnosis

3456
01:59:52,012 --> 01:59:56,750
and trouble shoot these

3457
01:59:54,915 --> 01:59:59,652
problems.  Moving on.     There

3458
01:59:56,817 --> 02:00:02,355
are many types of outages caused

3459
01:59:59,719 --> 02:00:03,690
by winter storms there are

3460
02:00:02,422 --> 02:00:05,559
pictures of customer station

3461
02:00:03,756 --> 02:00:07,294
with water intrusion on the

3462
02:00:05,626 --> 02:00:08,194
left.  To our overhead

3463
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:10,296
infrastructure due to do you

3464
02:00:08,261 --> 02:00:12,032
understand tree in the center

3465
02:00:10,363 --> 02:00:14,400
picture and then ice and snow in

3466
02:00:12,099 --> 02:00:16,069
our owens valley service area.

3467
02:00:14,467 --> 02:00:17,570
okay these differ from our

3468
02:00:16,136 --> 02:00:18,872
summer storms which primarily

3469
02:00:17,637 --> 02:00:24,978
consist of overloaded equipment.

3470
02:00:18,939 --> 02:00:29,149
all right.

3471
02:00:25,045 --> 02:00:32,952
so customer communication.  Our

3472
02:00:29,216 --> 02:00:34,020
pdoc, city eeoc and electric

3473
02:00:33,019 --> 02:00:36,723
trouble sections communicate

3474
02:00:34,087 --> 02:00:39,159
with our public relations folks

3475
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:40,660
to get messages out to

3476
02:00:39,226 --> 02:00:41,828
customers.  This could be how

3477
02:00:40,727 --> 02:00:43,263
we're preparing, provide

3478
02:00:41,895 --> 02:00:48,702
customers with tips to be ready

3479
02:00:43,330 --> 02:00:50,537
in case of power outages, remind

3480
02:00:48,769 --> 02:00:51,938
customers about safety around

3481
02:00:50,604 --> 02:00:54,875
downed power lines and share

3482
02:00:52,005 --> 02:00:56,843
outage maps on forward facing

3483
02:00:54,942 --> 02:00:58,311
web site with information.

3484
02:00:56,910 --> 02:01:00,580
okay.  So, hopefully wrapped

3485
02:00:58,378 --> 02:01:00,880
that up quick.  Are there any

3486
02:01:00,647 --> 02:01:02,615
questions?

3487
02:01:00,947 --> 02:01:03,817
» com. Wilma pinder:  oh that

3488
02:01:02,682 --> 02:01:04,284
was quick.

3489
02:01:03,884 --> 02:01:05,819
[laughter]

3490
02:01:04,351 --> 02:01:08,988
» dave hanson:  commissioners

3491
02:01:05,886 --> 02:01:10,557
I'll add there is a lot of

3492
02:01:09,055 --> 02:01:12,358
several different divisions that

3493
02:01:10,624 --> 02:01:14,694
work together whenever in the

3494
02:01:12,425 --> 02:01:17,497
middle of heat storm sponsor

3495
02:01:14,761 --> 02:01:18,665
winds and rain storm response

3496
02:01:17,564 --> 02:01:20,934
these two are the gentlemen that

3497
02:01:18,732 --> 02:01:22,536
lead the charge on this but we

3498
02:01:21,001 --> 02:01:24,404
also work with supply operations

3499
02:01:22,603 --> 02:01:25,104
which is our generation

3500
02:01:24,471 --> 02:01:29,042
facilities energy control

3501
02:01:25,171 --> 02:01:35,481
facility which is our ecc up in

3502
02:01:29,109 --> 02:01:38,451
the valley that dispatches

3503
02:01:35,548 --> 02:01:40,920
transmission subtransmission and

3504
02:01:38,518 --> 02:01:43,423
ati decision that has telecom

3505
02:01:40,987 --> 02:01:44,757
because on these poles also

3506
02:01:43,490 --> 02:01:45,892
resides telecommunications so

3507
02:01:44,824 --> 02:01:49,229
those folks are also called upon

3508
02:01:45,959 --> 02:01:56,570
to go out there and do

3509
02:01:49,296 --> 02:01:58,071
restoration work we have 24/7365

3510
02:01:56,637 --> 02:02:00,340
linemen under electric trouble

3511
02:01:58,138 --> 02:02:03,510
under mr. Mike, moving forward

3512
02:02:00,407 --> 02:02:05,111
we're going to have full trouble

3513
02:02:03,577 --> 02:02:06,846
organization with operations

3514
02:02:05,178 --> 02:02:08,882
maintenance personnel we're in

3515
02:02:06,913 --> 02:02:11,718
negotiations now with local 18

3516
02:02:08,949 --> 02:02:14,053
on how we're going to stay that

3517
02:02:11,785 --> 02:02:16,723
as quickly as possible while we

3518
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:18,124
do the long-term strategic

3519
02:02:16,790 --> 02:02:20,860
staffing plan as well.

3520
02:02:18,191 --> 02:02:22,295
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

3521
02:02:20,927 --> 02:02:24,164
those photos particularly really

3522
02:02:22,362 --> 02:02:26,099
bring it home because it reminds

3523
02:02:24,230 --> 02:02:29,135
us again how dangerous all of

3524
02:02:26,165 --> 02:02:30,136
this is, not only our workers

3525
02:02:29,202 --> 02:02:34,975
but the public there are

3526
02:02:30,203 --> 02:02:37,344
vehicles I mean it's like a 24/7

3527
02:02:35,042 --> 02:02:40,981
thing we greatly appreciate all

3528
02:02:37,411 --> 02:02:43,716
the effort.  The wind storm we

3529
02:02:41,048 --> 02:02:45,452
had recently, weakened soil,

3530
02:02:43,783 --> 02:02:48,454
happy with the water over there,

3531
02:02:45,519 --> 02:02:51,324
it has weakened the soil and

3532
02:02:48,521 --> 02:02:53,760
bringing down trees so we're

3533
02:02:51,391 --> 02:02:55,829
going to have falling trees when

3534
02:02:53,827 --> 02:02:56,829
the ground dries out.  Thank you

3535
02:02:55,896 --> 02:02:59,065
for that presentation.

3536
02:02:56,896 --> 02:03:01,567
» nurit katz:  I noted you were

3537
02:02:59,132 --> 02:03:02,535
talking about infiltration of

3538
02:03:01,634 --> 02:03:04,938
are underground infrastructure

3539
02:03:02,602 --> 02:03:05,639
obviously we're keeping an eye

3540
02:03:05,005 --> 02:03:07,106
on the palisades and rebuilding

3541
02:03:05,705 --> 02:03:09,742
significant under-grounding

3542
02:03:07,173 --> 02:03:12,912
there are you tracking lessons

3543
02:03:09,809 --> 02:03:15,415
learned from prior storms and

3544
02:03:12,979 --> 02:03:17,317
existing underground

3545
02:03:15,482 --> 02:03:19,185
infrastructure how we might

3546
02:03:17,384 --> 02:03:19,485
inform the process in the

3547
02:03:19,252 --> 02:03:20,153
palisades.

3548
02:03:19,552 --> 02:03:22,489
» speaker:  absolutely we're

3549
02:03:20,219 --> 02:03:24,591
sharing all data with both teams

3550
02:03:22,556 --> 02:03:26,159
that are developing the

3551
02:03:24,658 --> 02:03:26,459
underground system for

3552
02:03:26,226 --> 02:03:27,727
palisades.

3553
02:03:26,526 --> 02:03:30,297
» nurit katz:  there are impacts

3554
02:03:27,794 --> 02:03:31,898
to water as well and other types

3555
02:03:30,364 --> 02:03:33,199
of emergencies like in

3556
02:03:31,965 --> 02:03:36,269
earthquake we would be all hands

3557
02:03:33,266 --> 02:03:38,872
on deck on both sides can you

3558
02:03:36,336 --> 02:03:39,539
speak to how the power

3559
02:03:38,939 --> 02:03:41,941
distribution operational center

3560
02:03:39,606 --> 02:03:46,780
works with other admit eocs or

3561
02:03:42,008 --> 02:03:48,515
how that -- and this might be an

3562
02:03:46,847 --> 02:03:50,350
anselmo/dave question I would be

3563
02:03:48,582 --> 02:03:53,052
interested in input on how we're

3564
02:03:50,417 --> 02:03:56,690
making sure the power and water

3565
02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:56,990
integrate in these manager

3566
02:03:56,757 --> 02:03:58,958
conditions.

3567
02:03:57,057 --> 02:04:02,396
» dave hanson:  you want to

3568
02:03:59,025 --> 02:04:06,866
start pdoc then I'll jump in.

3569
02:04:02,462 --> 02:04:08,902
» speaker:  sure pdoc, get our

3570
02:04:06,933 --> 02:04:10,570
power groups together all groups

3571
02:04:08,969 --> 02:04:11,904
provide some like dave said some

3572
02:04:10,637 --> 02:04:15,541
portion of service to the

3573
02:04:11,971 --> 02:04:18,444
electric and we also have wec

3574
02:04:15,608 --> 02:04:20,880
which dave and anselmo can take

3575
02:04:18,511 --> 02:04:21,547
over on how we work together

3576
02:04:20,947 --> 02:04:23,183
between those.

3577
02:04:21,614 --> 02:04:24,851
» dave hanson:  essentially the

3578
02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:26,219
pdoc power distribution

3579
02:04:24,918 --> 02:04:29,322
operations center is a power

3580
02:04:26,286 --> 02:04:31,191
command we stands up when we

3581
02:04:29,389 --> 02:04:33,326
meet certain conditions recently

3582
02:04:31,258 --> 02:04:35,996
last year, year and a half we

3583
02:04:33,393 --> 02:04:38,498
hit kpi of 5,000 customers where

3584
02:04:36,063 --> 02:04:39,932
we start to look at our outage

3585
02:04:38,565 --> 02:04:41,234
management system and ask if we

3586
02:04:39,999 --> 02:04:44,604
find ourselves twentiesing

3587
02:04:41,301 --> 02:04:46,706
upwards from 5,000 and we find

3588
02:04:44,671 --> 02:04:48,007
that number to be true we start

3589
02:04:46,773 --> 02:04:49,208
to ask questions if it's

3590
02:04:48,074 --> 02:04:51,378
starting to look like it's

3591
02:04:49,275 --> 02:04:52,412
getting to where bee need to

3592
02:04:51,445 --> 02:04:54,948
coordinate with other groups we

3593
02:04:52,479 --> 02:04:57,116
would do virtual activation of

3594
02:04:55,015 --> 02:04:59,352
pdoc if we hit 10,000 customers

3595
02:04:57,183 --> 02:05:02,388
out we verify this number to be

3596
02:04:59,419 --> 02:05:04,490
true activate virtually pdoc

3597
02:05:02,455 --> 02:05:08,961
look at activating in-person

3598
02:05:04,557 --> 02:05:11,164
from there.  Pdoc is located at

3599
02:05:09,028 --> 02:05:15,935
lincoln heights was built by

3600
02:05:11,231 --> 02:05:17,637
mrs. Walter rodriguez former

3601
02:05:16,002 --> 02:05:20,340
director of transmission

3602
02:05:17,704 --> 02:05:24,344
distribution so that asset lives

3603
02:05:20,407 --> 02:05:26,712
under t and dtod and essentially

3604
02:05:24,411 --> 02:05:29,482
I call upon mike to stands up

3605
02:05:26,779 --> 02:05:32,385
for power if there starts to be

3606
02:05:29,549 --> 02:05:35,288
department wide issue now with

3607
02:05:32,452 --> 02:05:37,857
anselmo and zoraya in charge of

3608
02:05:35,355 --> 02:05:40,593
emergency operations center for

3609
02:05:37,924 --> 02:05:41,994
the entire company.

3610
02:05:40,660 --> 02:05:44,697
» anselmo collins:  so in water

3611
02:05:42,061 --> 02:05:47,233
system if emergency is one that

3612
02:05:44,764 --> 02:05:49,936
is specific to one division as

3613
02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:51,338
the incident know command system

3614
02:05:50,003 --> 02:05:54,374
the division handles if it's

3615
02:05:51,404 --> 02:05:57,810
going to take multiple divisions

3616
02:05:54,441 --> 02:05:59,212
of being impacted as far as

3617
02:05:57,877 --> 02:06:01,347
logistics large events water

3618
02:05:59,279 --> 02:06:03,216
system and power system

3619
02:06:01,414 --> 02:06:05,351
potentially impacted those fall

3620
02:06:03,283 --> 02:06:05,985
under the jurisdictional

3621
02:06:05,418 --> 02:06:08,855
department's emergency

3622
02:06:06,052 --> 02:06:11,524
operations center, wec, pdoc

3623
02:06:08,922 --> 02:06:14,193
staff all report up to the

3624
02:06:11,591 --> 02:06:16,029
department's eoc center make

3625
02:06:14,260 --> 02:06:18,431
sure all coordinated when it

3626
02:06:16,096 --> 02:06:19,866
comes to resources and logistics

3627
02:06:18,498 --> 02:06:22,168
ensuring we have all resources

3628
02:06:19,933 --> 02:06:23,102
necessary for both water and

3629
02:06:22,235 --> 02:06:23,669
power systems.

3630
02:06:23,169 --> 02:06:24,670
» nurit katz:  thank you so

3631
02:06:23,736 --> 02:06:27,206
much.  I think it's helpful for

3632
02:06:24,737 --> 02:06:28,908
the public    to elevate the

3633
02:06:27,273 --> 02:06:30,643
coordination needed and also

3634
02:06:28,974 --> 02:06:32,111
just the interdependence of

3635
02:06:30,710 --> 02:06:33,179
water and power which many

3636
02:06:32,178 --> 02:06:36,483
members of the public are not

3637
02:06:33,246 --> 02:06:37,984
always aware of the fact that we

3638
02:06:36,550 --> 02:06:39,819
have high dependence on water in

3639
02:06:38,051 --> 02:06:42,121
some of our power facilities

3640
02:06:39,886 --> 02:06:43,523
should there be a water outage

3641
02:06:42,188 --> 02:06:44,790
and certainly high dependence on

3642
02:06:43,590 --> 02:06:46,626
power for critical water

3643
02:06:44,857 --> 02:06:47,426
treatment facilities that

3644
02:06:46,693 --> 02:06:49,162
collaboration across which I

3645
02:06:47,493 --> 02:06:50,229
have is seen improving in the

3646
02:06:49,229 --> 02:06:53,500
last year is important and I'm

3647
02:06:50,296 --> 02:06:55,435
glad to hear of this icm

3648
02:06:53,567 --> 02:06:57,503
coordination in emergency

3649
02:06:55,502 --> 02:06:58,905
management.  Thank you.

3650
02:06:57,570 --> 02:07:01,140
» dave hanson:  although we have

3651
02:06:58,972 --> 02:07:03,042
done table top exercises in the

3652
02:07:01,207 --> 02:07:05,545
past we have cowbells and

3653
02:07:03,109 --> 02:07:08,514
operating orders to lay all out

3654
02:07:05,612 --> 02:07:10,616
we have never on the power side

3655
02:07:08,614 --> 02:07:13,052
activated the poc until about a

3656
02:07:10,683 --> 02:07:15,788
year and a half ago because of

3657
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:17,023
janisse bringing on zoraya and

3658
02:07:15,855 --> 02:07:18,591
mona they brought expertise

3659
02:07:17,090 --> 02:07:20,693
here.  So did we miss anything

3660
02:07:18,658 --> 02:07:21,327
in our explanation?

3661
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:23,496
» zoraya oliver-griffin:  no you

3662
02:07:21,394 --> 02:07:26,899
covered it all the only time we

3663
02:07:23,563 --> 02:07:28,868
would have a water or power

3664
02:07:26,966 --> 02:07:33,773
centric activation that would

3665
02:07:28,935 --> 02:07:36,809
require support, and activate is

3666
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:38,878
like when the granada hills

3667
02:07:36,876 --> 02:07:40,313
water outage where it required

3668
02:07:38,945 --> 02:07:41,414
presentation communications and

3669
02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:43,183
support in the community

3670
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:46,886
logistical support we decided to

3671
02:07:43,250 --> 02:07:48,521
activate the pdoc.

3672
02:07:46,953 --> 02:07:50,923
» nurit katz:  got it I'm sure

3673
02:07:48,588 --> 02:07:52,492
with your extensive expertise

3674
02:07:50,990 --> 02:07:54,494
emergency management since it's

3675
02:07:52,559 --> 02:07:55,861
one of the first few activations

3676
02:07:54,561 --> 02:07:59,031
looking at hot wash et cetera

3677
02:07:55,928 --> 02:08:01,134
I'll be interested to see what

3678
02:07:59,098 --> 02:08:02,702
lessons were learned.

3679
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:05,772
» dave hanson:  to that point

3680
02:08:02,769 --> 02:08:08,474
something we're looking at

3681
02:08:05,838 --> 02:08:11,277
national weather service weather

3682
02:08:08,541 --> 02:08:13,512
events using that predictive

3683
02:08:11,344 --> 02:08:15,782
information making decisions

3684
02:08:13,612 --> 02:08:17,850
about energying what circuits we

3685
02:08:15,849 --> 02:08:21,621
may have to turn off in the past

3686
02:08:17,917 --> 02:08:22,822
as far as part of our wildlife

3687
02:08:21,688 --> 02:08:25,057
mitigation plan we haven't had

3688
02:08:22,889 --> 02:08:26,959
power safety shut off but

3689
02:08:25,124 --> 02:08:28,094
palisades emergency we use that

3690
02:08:27,026 --> 02:08:29,629
collaboration with the national

3691
02:08:28,161 --> 02:08:30,263
weather service to help make

3692
02:08:29,696 --> 02:08:31,197
that decision.

3693
02:08:30,329 --> 02:08:32,865
» nurit katz:  thank you we're

3694
02:08:31,264 --> 02:08:33,967
looking forward to those

3695
02:08:32,932 --> 02:08:35,268
wildfire mitigation planning

3696
02:08:34,034 --> 02:08:38,904
updates later as well.

3697
02:08:35,334 --> 02:08:42,208
» com. Wilma pinder:  I'm sure

3698
02:08:38,971 --> 02:08:43,409
we'll get them.

3699
02:08:42,275 --> 02:08:44,343
» allan t. Marks:  can I ask for

3700
02:08:43,476 --> 02:08:48,281
clarification.  In your report

3701
02:08:44,410 --> 02:08:49,715
you mentioned activation of pdoc

3702
02:08:48,348 --> 02:08:51,651
and dave you mentioned

3703
02:08:49,782 --> 02:08:54,520
thresholds of outages especially

3704
02:08:51,718 --> 02:08:57,657
confirmed outages at $5,000,

3705
02:08:54,587 --> 02:09:00,226
10,000, so forth, on the power

3706
02:08:57,724 --> 02:09:02,962
side.  But there is also your

3707
02:09:00,293 --> 02:09:05,498
early report you talked about

3708
02:09:03,029 --> 02:09:07,100
activating eoc ahead because you

3709
02:09:05,565 --> 02:09:09,001
know that we're having storms

3710
02:09:07,166 --> 02:09:10,469
that were coming with them

3711
02:09:09,068 --> 02:09:11,671
events in december, so what's

3712
02:09:10,536 --> 02:09:13,472
the difference between

3713
02:09:11,738 --> 02:09:15,141
activating because you think

3714
02:09:13,539 --> 02:09:17,143
there is something coming

3715
02:09:15,208 --> 02:09:18,611
because of weather fore cast

3716
02:09:17,210 --> 02:09:20,146
maybe activating after a big

3717
02:09:18,677 --> 02:09:22,448
event like earthquake where you

3718
02:09:20,213 --> 02:09:25,351
still don't know yet what scope

3719
02:09:22,515 --> 02:09:28,721
is going to be don't need to

3720
02:09:25,417 --> 02:09:30,490
wait to confirm.

3721
02:09:28,787 --> 02:09:32,825
» dave hanson:  I'll talk for

3722
02:09:30,557 --> 02:09:35,361
pdoc, then maybe you could come

3723
02:09:32,892 --> 02:09:37,730
up and fill the gaps.  We look

3724
02:09:35,428 --> 02:09:40,299
at being proactive so there is

3725
02:09:37,797 --> 02:09:42,368
board action from a few years

3726
02:09:40,366 --> 02:09:44,236
ago maybe joe can remember we

3727
02:09:42,435 --> 02:09:46,439
establish a response maybe joe

3728
02:09:44,303 --> 02:09:47,907
can summer we establish response

3729
02:09:46,506 --> 02:09:49,408
level for electric trouble I

3730
02:09:47,973 --> 02:09:51,911
don't remember what year 2015?

3731
02:09:49,475 --> 02:09:53,946
I don't know if that's right we

3732
02:09:51,978 --> 02:09:55,915
establish response level for

3733
02:09:54,013 --> 02:09:57,316
electric trouble level when

3734
02:09:55,982 --> 02:10:00,052
we're at normal level response

3735
02:09:57,383 --> 02:10:01,488
that's a promise to our

3736
02:10:00,119 --> 02:10:03,255
customers we will respond to

3737
02:10:01,554 --> 02:10:05,458
your outage within four hours it

3738
02:10:03,322 --> 02:10:08,561
doesn't mean etr estimated time

3739
02:10:05,525 --> 02:10:10,863
of restoration it means response

3740
02:10:08,628 --> 02:10:13,466
so at response level normal four

3741
02:10:10,930 --> 02:10:16,469
years anybody that can look at

3742
02:10:13,533 --> 02:10:18,571
our outhitage map internal

3743
02:10:16,536 --> 02:10:20,139
numbers all driven by grgis

3744
02:10:18,637 --> 02:10:22,174
system we'll have a presentation

3745
02:10:20,206 --> 02:10:24,043
on this in the future but

3746
02:10:22,241 --> 02:10:26,579
response level it's four hours

3747
02:10:24,110 --> 02:10:30,817
if we go to response level one

3748
02:10:26,646 --> 02:10:33,453
from 4 to 12 hours, response two

3749
02:10:30,884 --> 02:10:35,821
is 12 to 24 and response level

3750
02:10:33,519 --> 02:10:37,156
three tbd now at response level

3751
02:10:35,888 --> 02:10:39,425
three we are required by board

3752
02:10:37,223 --> 02:10:42,562
action to proactively staff and

3753
02:10:39,492 --> 02:10:43,796
bring on power construction and

3754
02:10:42,629 --> 02:10:45,998
maintenance substation

3755
02:10:43,863 --> 02:10:50,803
electricians in the past we did

3756
02:10:46,065 --> 02:10:51,837
not do that proactively so now

3757
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:53,305
that's why we see the

3758
02:10:51,904 --> 02:10:56,309
presentation before we refer to

3759
02:10:53,372 --> 02:10:57,010
five by five under the new

3760
02:10:56,376 --> 02:10:59,512
leadership at power construction

3761
02:10:57,076 --> 02:11:01,714
maintenance they established a

3762
02:10:59,579 --> 02:11:03,450
proactive feature like that so

3763
02:11:01,781 --> 02:11:04,984
we bring on two crews in each of

3764
02:11:03,516 --> 02:11:06,419
the five service areas before we

3765
02:11:05,051 --> 02:11:08,254
ever get into the boards

3766
02:11:06,486 --> 02:11:10,990
requirement of making them come

3767
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,792
in it's kind of a firefighter

3768
02:11:11,057 --> 02:11:15,795
model we're ready on premise we

3769
02:11:12,859 --> 02:11:16,729
cut out 2 and 3 hour delay for

3770
02:11:15,862 --> 02:11:18,931
calling folks out so those

3771
02:11:16,795 --> 02:11:22,869
levels don't have anything to do

3772
02:11:18,998 --> 02:11:24,303
with activation levels by eoc or

3773
02:11:22,936 --> 02:11:27,006
departmented eocz.

3774
02:11:24,370 --> 02:11:28,241
» speaker:  and specifically for

3775
02:11:27,073 --> 02:11:30,243
this situation for this storm in

3776
02:11:28,308 --> 02:11:31,443
december it really was a game

3777
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:33,045
day decision after being briefed

3778
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:38,217
by the national weather service

3779
02:11:33,112 --> 02:11:39,919
that afternoon.   Of the 23rd.

3780
02:11:38,284 --> 02:11:41,854
because the rain, we were

3781
02:11:39,986 --> 02:11:45,725
getting far more rain faster

3782
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:50,196
than was originally forecasted.

3783
02:11:45,792 --> 02:11:52,398
they also weave said in the high

3784
02:11:50,263 --> 02:11:53,966
potential for a tornado which we

3785
02:11:52,465 --> 02:11:57,804
didn't know about until that day

3786
02:11:54,033 --> 02:12:00,973
so truly in the morning I talked

3787
02:11:57,871 --> 02:12:04,010
to dave and said we're fine with

3788
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:06,279
just the pdoc after having heard

3789
02:12:04,077 --> 02:12:07,980
the national weather service

3790
02:12:06,345 --> 02:12:10,449
giving a briefing we immediate

3791
02:12:08,047 --> 02:12:13,853
adjusted to what the situation

3792
02:12:10,516 --> 02:12:14,720
called for to activate eoc that

3793
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:16,322
evening.

3794
02:12:14,787 --> 02:12:18,190
» dave hanson:  actually the

3795
02:12:16,389 --> 02:12:22,261
same conversation prior to the

3796
02:12:18,257 --> 02:12:25,264
palisades tragedy that morning

3797
02:12:22,328 --> 02:12:26,532
zoraya and I were talking about

3798
02:12:25,331 --> 02:12:28,234
proactively activating the

3799
02:12:26,599 --> 02:12:29,835
department emergency operations

3800
02:12:28,301 --> 02:12:32,071
center then saw smoke on the

3801
02:12:29,902 --> 02:12:33,473
hill.  So we were already taking

3802
02:12:32,138 --> 02:12:34,140
steps if that direction.

3803
02:12:33,540 --> 02:12:36,041
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

3804
02:12:34,207 --> 02:12:36,742
very much.  Are you concluded?

3805
02:12:36,108 --> 02:12:37,409
» speaker:  thank you very much.

3806
02:12:36,809 --> 02:12:40,246
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

3807
02:12:37,476 --> 02:12:43,082
for your presentation.  Is there

3808
02:12:40,313 --> 02:12:44,416
there a second?  That concludes

3809
02:12:43,149 --> 02:12:45,551
that.  We have heard our

3810
02:12:44,483 --> 02:12:46,986
commissioners attending one

3811
02:12:45,618 --> 02:12:49,388
event are there any other

3812
02:12:47,053 --> 02:12:51,624
reports by a commissioner on any

3813
02:12:49,455 --> 02:12:52,525
committee activity?

3814
02:12:51,691 --> 02:12:53,392
» nurit katz:  not at this time.

3815
02:12:52,592 --> 02:12:54,560
» com. Wilma pinder:  and I

3816
02:12:53,459 --> 02:12:57,797
don't know what committees you

3817
02:12:54,627 --> 02:12:59,098
ultimately will be on, as I said

3818
02:12:57,864 --> 02:13:01,867
I'm on the retirement committee

3819
02:12:59,165 --> 02:13:03,469
and I'm holding that down, I

3820
02:13:01,934 --> 02:13:04,837
just enjoy it so much.  But

3821
02:13:03,536 --> 02:13:06,405
whatever committees you

3822
02:13:04,904 --> 02:13:08,341
ultimately will be working on, I

3823
02:13:06,472 --> 02:13:10,209
really want you to roll up your

3824
02:13:08,408 --> 02:13:13,246
sleeves and dig in.  It can be

3825
02:13:10,276 --> 02:13:13,946
quite enjoyable.  So, no

3826
02:13:13,313 --> 02:13:14,480
committee reports in that

3827
02:13:14,013 --> 02:13:15,915
regard.

3828
02:13:14,547 --> 02:13:18,884
now, this is a matter that does

3829
02:13:15,982 --> 02:13:21,921
not require a vote.  It is for

3830
02:13:18,951 --> 02:13:24,590
the presiding officer or next

3831
02:13:21,988 --> 02:13:27,793
time the president to direct the

3832
02:13:24,657 --> 02:13:31,297
commission secretary to file

3833
02:13:27,860 --> 02:13:32,765
items one -- k one through

3834
02:13:31,364 --> 02:13:34,867
k-nine, which are various

3835
02:13:32,832 --> 02:13:36,235
notices that we get through the

3836
02:13:34,934 --> 02:13:37,503
government, et cetera, and

3837
02:13:36,302 --> 02:13:39,906
they're basically considered at

3838
02:13:37,569 --> 02:13:49,282
this point historical documents

3839
02:13:39,973 --> 02:13:50,916
that are remaining for us to

3840
02:13:49,349 --> 02:13:53,519
peruse should we need to.  On

3841
02:13:50,983 --> 02:13:56,622
item 11 we have already handled

3842
02:13:53,586 --> 02:13:59,458
the minutes.  Item m?

3843
02:13:56,689 --> 02:14:01,527
» nurit katz:  no new motions at

3844
02:13:59,525 --> 02:14:02,194
this time.

3845
02:14:01,594 --> 02:14:03,996
» allan t. Marks:  nothing here.

3846
02:14:02,261 --> 02:14:05,798
» com. Wilma pinder:  any motion

3847
02:14:04,063 --> 02:14:06,632
on your part?  Thank you.

3848
02:14:05,865 --> 02:14:11,637
secretary, I have missed

3849
02:14:06,699 --> 02:14:14,173
anything so far?  Oh, yes, is

3850
02:14:11,704 --> 02:14:16,309
there any discussion with the

3851
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,343
neighborhood council

3852
02:14:16,376 --> 02:14:18,844
representatives?  Are there any

3853
02:14:17,410 --> 02:14:21,914
in the audience or have any

3854
02:14:18,911 --> 02:14:24,684
notices been filed by

3855
02:14:21,981 --> 02:14:25,318
mitchell:  no community impact

3856
02:14:24,751 --> 02:14:25,952
statements or formal positions

3857
02:14:25,385 --> 02:14:26,586
were filed by any neighborhood

3858
02:14:26,019 --> 02:14:27,886
councils on the items on today's

3859
02:14:26,653 --> 02:14:28,554
agenda.

3860
02:14:27,953 --> 02:14:31,690
» com. Wilma pinder:  either now

3861
02:14:28,620 --> 02:14:32,758
or in the future would you let

3862
02:14:31,757 --> 02:14:34,827
this board know how many

3863
02:14:32,825 --> 02:14:35,361
neighborhood councils there are?

3864
02:14:34,894 --> 02:14:37,663
» board secretary, chante

3865
02:14:35,427 --> 02:14:40,133
mitchell:  joe's office let us

3866
02:14:37,730 --> 02:14:41,000
know that there are 99 councils.

3867
02:14:40,199 --> 02:14:44,236
» com. Wilma pinder:  so there

3868
02:14:41,067 --> 02:14:45,270
are 99 councils that could have

3869
02:14:44,303 --> 02:14:48,140
filed something with us or could

3870
02:14:45,337 --> 02:14:49,208
speak to us at any time.  So

3871
02:14:48,207 --> 02:14:51,110
that will always be on our

3872
02:14:49,275 --> 02:14:53,278
records that's something that we

3873
02:14:51,177 --> 02:14:54,880
should take care of.  Now, if

3874
02:14:53,345 --> 02:14:56,348
I'm not incorrect, I think we

3875
02:14:54,947 --> 02:14:58,817
have moved to the point of

3876
02:14:56,415 --> 02:15:02,154
election of officers.  And, by

3877
02:14:58,884 --> 02:15:03,556
the way, we are -- we do have

3878
02:15:02,221 --> 02:15:05,758
another commissioner, I think it

3879
02:15:03,622 --> 02:15:07,927
was mentioned earlier, who is

3880
02:15:05,825 --> 02:15:09,261
still waiting to go before city

3881
02:15:07,994 --> 02:15:10,530
council.  It would have been so

3882
02:15:09,328 --> 02:15:13,265
wonderful to have had that

3883
02:15:10,596 --> 02:15:15,868
person today, since we kind of

3884
02:15:13,332 --> 02:15:16,969
were in a kumbaya type of mood

3885
02:15:15,934 --> 02:15:18,537
here and many things that are

3886
02:15:17,036 --> 02:15:20,072
not normally said on the record

3887
02:15:18,604 --> 02:15:21,840
were said on the record.  But

3888
02:15:20,139 --> 02:15:23,809
when that person comes, I will

3889
02:15:21,907 --> 02:15:25,678
hope that you will be as warm as

3890
02:15:23,876 --> 02:15:28,547
you have been in welcoming the

3891
02:15:25,745 --> 02:15:29,782
two commissioners to my left and

3892
02:15:28,614 --> 02:15:33,819
to my right.  Still, at this

3893
02:15:29,848 --> 02:15:36,755
point, we do have a quorum.  So,

3894
02:15:33,886 --> 02:15:38,658
we are always able, today, to

3895
02:15:36,822 --> 02:15:41,560
make any decisions for this

3896
02:15:38,725 --> 02:15:43,229
board, even absent our remaining

3897
02:15:41,627 --> 02:15:47,966
commissioner.

3898
02:15:43,296 --> 02:15:50,502
so, at this point, I would move

3899
02:15:48,033 --> 02:15:56,175
to the point where we are to

3900
02:15:50,569 --> 02:15:57,109
elect a president of the

3901
02:15:56,242 --> 02:16:00,045
commission.  And I would

3902
02:15:57,176 --> 02:16:01,146
entertain a motion for said

3903
02:16:00,112 --> 02:16:02,181
office of president.

3904
02:16:01,213 --> 02:16:04,183
» benny b. Tran:  I would like

3905
02:16:02,248 --> 02:16:07,353
to nominate commissioner alan

3906
02:16:04,250 --> 02:16:08,887
marks to be president of the

3907
02:16:07,420 --> 02:16:10,589
board.

3908
02:16:08,954 --> 02:16:11,156
» allan t. Marks:  thank you.

3909
02:16:10,656 --> 02:16:13,525
» com. Wilma pinder:  alan

3910
02:16:11,223 --> 02:16:15,227
marks, if voted in, would you

3911
02:16:13,592 --> 02:16:15,827
even accept that?

3912
02:16:15,294 --> 02:16:18,731
» allan t. Marks:  yes.  It

3913
02:16:15,894 --> 02:16:19,198
would be a privilege.  Thank

3914
02:16:18,797 --> 02:16:20,733
you.

3915
02:16:19,265 --> 02:16:22,768
» com. Wilma pinder:  with that

3916
02:16:20,833 --> 02:16:25,671
having been stated, I would now

3917
02:16:22,835 --> 02:16:26,972
call for a second.

3918
02:16:25,738 --> 02:16:27,372
» nurit katz:  second that

3919
02:16:27,039 --> 02:16:28,340
nomination.

3920
02:16:27,439 --> 02:16:30,342
» com. Wilma pinder:  having

3921
02:16:28,407 --> 02:16:33,278
heard the motion having heard

3922
02:16:30,409 --> 02:16:35,247
that this person would be a

3923
02:16:33,345 --> 02:16:35,514
willing president if elected.

3924
02:16:35,314 --> 02:16:36,048
our vote.

3925
02:16:35,581 --> 02:16:36,582
» board secretary, chante

3926
02:16:36,114 --> 02:16:37,183
mitchell:  katz?

3927
02:16:36,649 --> 02:16:37,717
» nurit katz:  aye.

3928
02:16:37,250 --> 02:16:39,284
» board secretary, chante

3929
02:16:37,784 --> 02:16:39,718
mitchell:  marks?

3930
02:16:39,351 --> 02:16:40,252
» allan t. Marks:

3931
02:16:39,785 --> 02:16:40,719
» board secretary, chante

3932
02:16:40,319 --> 02:16:41,320
mitchell:  pinder?

3933
02:16:40,786 --> 02:16:41,853
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

3934
02:16:41,386 --> 02:16:43,622
» board secretary, chante

3935
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:44,189
mitchell:  tran?

3936
02:16:43,689 --> 02:16:44,723
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

3937
02:16:44,256 --> 02:16:46,492
» board secretary, chante

3938
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:47,392
mitchell:  with unanimous

3939
02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:47,959
consent, motion adopted.

3940
02:16:47,459 --> 02:16:51,530
» com. Wilma pinder:  our

3941
02:16:48,026 --> 02:16:51,897
president of the board will be,

3942
02:16:51,597 --> 02:16:54,366
forthcoming.

3943
02:16:51,964 --> 02:16:56,602
» allan t. Marks:  and I would

3944
02:16:54,433 --> 02:16:57,837
ask you to continue to preside

3945
02:16:56,669 --> 02:16:58,070
over this meeting commissioner

3946
02:16:57,904 --> 02:16:59,772
pinder.

3947
02:16:58,137 --> 02:17:01,307
» com. Wilma pinder:  I will

3948
02:16:59,839 --> 02:17:02,842
conclude this meeting then and

3949
02:17:01,374 --> 02:17:04,843
continue, with that said, again,

3950
02:17:02,909 --> 02:17:06,678
it will be more formal welcomes

3951
02:17:04,910 --> 02:17:09,615
when you do, in fact, take over

3952
02:17:06,745 --> 02:17:10,849
at our next meeting.  And I

3953
02:17:09,682 --> 02:17:13,318
congratulate you on that now

3954
02:17:10,916 --> 02:17:16,789
before everyone.  I will now

3955
02:17:13,385 --> 02:17:17,156
call for a motion for a vice

3956
02:17:16,856 --> 02:17:18,024
president.

3957
02:17:17,223 --> 02:17:20,259
» allan t. Marks:  I would like

3958
02:17:18,090 --> 02:17:22,661
to move and nominate

3959
02:17:20,326 --> 02:17:26,765
commissioner nurit katz to be

3960
02:17:22,728 --> 02:17:27,767
the vice president.

3961
02:17:26,832 --> 02:17:28,234
» benny b. Tran:  second.

3962
02:17:27,834 --> 02:17:28,935
» com. Wilma pinder:

3963
02:17:28,301 --> 02:17:31,103
commissioner katz, in fact you

3964
02:17:29,001 --> 02:17:32,538
are nominated are you illegaling

3965
02:17:31,170 --> 02:17:34,340
to serve?

3966
02:17:32,605 --> 02:17:36,074
» nurit katz:  it would be an

3967
02:17:34,407 --> 02:17:36,708
honor.  Thank you.

3968
02:17:36,141 --> 02:17:37,075
» com. Wilma pinder:  calling

3969
02:17:36,775 --> 02:17:37,609
for the vote.

3970
02:17:37,142 --> 02:17:38,844
» board secretary, chante

3971
02:17:37,676 --> 02:17:39,478
mitchell:  katz?

3972
02:17:38,911 --> 02:17:40,012
» nurit katz:  aye.

3973
02:17:39,545 --> 02:17:41,146
» board secretary, chante

3974
02:17:40,079 --> 02:17:41,580
mitchell:  marks?

3975
02:17:41,213 --> 02:17:42,114
» allan t. Marks:

3976
02:17:41,647 --> 02:17:42,581
» board secretary, chante

3977
02:17:42,181 --> 02:17:43,182
mitchell:  pinder?

3978
02:17:42,648 --> 02:17:43,849
» com. Wilma pinder:  aye.

3979
02:17:43,248 --> 02:17:44,416
» board secretary, chante

3980
02:17:43,916 --> 02:17:45,251
mitchell:  tran?

3981
02:17:44,483 --> 02:17:45,785
» benny b. Tran:  aye.

3982
02:17:45,318 --> 02:17:47,686
» board secretary, chante

3983
02:17:45,852 --> 02:17:48,720
mitchell:  unanimous consent.

3984
02:17:47,753 --> 02:17:50,823
motion adopted.

3985
02:17:48,787 --> 02:17:51,724
» com. Wilma pinder:  madam

3986
02:17:50,890 --> 02:17:54,827
commissioner -- madam commission

3987
02:17:51,791 --> 02:17:56,862
president -- I mean, secretary,

3988
02:17:54,894 --> 02:17:58,230
will you please double check the

3989
02:17:56,929 --> 02:17:59,899
entire roster to make sure that

3990
02:17:58,330 --> 02:18:02,067
nothing has been overlooked

3991
02:17:59,966 --> 02:18:02,367
before I move us into closed

3992
02:18:02,134 --> 02:18:02,901
session?

3993
02:18:02,434 --> 02:18:05,604
» board secretary, chante

3994
02:18:02,968 --> 02:18:06,171
mitchell:  all items have been

3995
02:18:05,671 --> 02:18:08,174
addressed.

3996
02:18:06,238 --> 02:18:09,141
» com. Wilma pinder:  madam

3997
02:18:08,241 --> 02:18:12,044
counsel, is there any other

3998
02:18:09,208 --> 02:18:14,613
matter that you feel that we

3999
02:18:12,110 --> 02:18:19,451
should go over before you -- we

4000
02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:19,718
move into closed session?

4001
02:18:19,518 --> 02:18:21,720
counsel.

4002
02:18:19,785 --> 02:18:24,790
» speaker:  no I'm ready to take

4003
02:18:21,787 --> 02:18:25,991
us into closed session.

4004
02:18:24,857 --> 02:18:27,793
» com. Wilma pinder:  ready.

4005
02:18:26,058 --> 02:18:29,228
» speaker:  as you know the

4006
02:18:27,860 --> 02:18:31,030
california open meeting law the

4007
02:18:29,295 --> 02:18:33,832
brown act requires that we list

4008
02:18:31,096 --> 02:18:34,967
the matters the board will

4009
02:18:33,899 --> 02:18:37,035
consider in closed session

4010
02:18:35,034 --> 02:18:39,472
please bare with me as I read

4011
02:18:37,102 --> 02:18:41,039
the list today we have several

4012
02:18:39,538 --> 02:18:42,875
items seven in fact I'll be

4013
02:18:41,106 --> 02:18:45,010
reading the case nameses and

4014
02:18:42,942 --> 02:18:45,678
court numbers for the record.

4015
02:18:45,077 --> 02:18:46,312
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you.

4016
02:18:45,744 --> 02:18:48,046
» speaker:  the board shall

4017
02:18:46,378 --> 02:18:49,314
recess into closed session for

4018
02:18:48,113 --> 02:18:51,950
conference with legal counsel

4019
02:18:49,381 --> 02:18:52,885
regarding the following items.

4020
02:18:52,017 --> 02:18:55,521
gabriel gonzalez versus los

4021
02:18:52,952 --> 02:18:57,155
angeles departments of water and

4022
02:18:55,588 --> 02:19:08,300
power, los angeles superior

4023
02:18:57,222 --> 02:19:10,002
court case number 24stcv 31461.

4024
02:19:08,367 --> 02:19:12,137
longmanhe versus ladwp los

4025
02:19:10,069 --> 02:19:22,882
angeles superior court case

4026
02:19:12,204 --> 02:19:25,684
number 20 stcv 34249.

4027
02:19:22,949 --> 02:19:34,393
carageo, versus ladwp superior

4028
02:19:25,751 --> 02:19:37,029
court case number 23stcv30350.

4029
02:19:34,460 --> 02:19:47,373
kia versus ladwp los angeles

4030
02:19:37,096 --> 02:19:49,575
superior court case 24stcv

4031
02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:52,210
04955.

4032
02:19:49,642 --> 02:19:57,049
randy simon versus los angeles

4033
02:19:52,277 --> 02:19:57,549
superior court case 23stcv

4034
02:19:57,116 --> 02:20:02,688
07592.

4035
02:19:57,616 --> 02:20:05,457
kathy pimatelle versus ladwp los

4036
02:20:02,754 --> 02:20:13,832
angeles superior court case

4037
02:20:05,524 --> 02:20:15,701
number 22chcv00934 and lastly

4038
02:20:13,899 --> 02:20:18,737
molnar versus city of los

4039
02:20:15,768 --> 02:20:20,339
angeles superior court case

4040
02:20:18,804 --> 02:20:21,173
number 32888.

4041
02:20:20,406 --> 02:20:22,308
» com. Wilma pinder:  that

4042
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:24,242
concludes the announcements that

4043
02:20:22,374 --> 02:20:27,612
have to be maintained on the

4044
02:20:24,309 --> 02:20:30,983
record I would say to our

4045
02:20:27,679 --> 02:20:32,017
commissioners please take ten

4046
02:20:31,050 --> 02:20:34,253
minutes before we adjourn into

4047
02:20:32,084 --> 02:20:34,853
the conference room for our

4048
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:36,922
meeting.  At this point the

4049
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:38,056
meeting is officially brought to

4050
02:20:36,989 --> 02:20:40,926
a close.

4051
02:20:38,123 --> 02:20:41,927
» speaker:  we will be after

4052
02:20:40,993 --> 02:20:44,964
closed session however we'll

4053
02:20:41,994 --> 02:20:45,330
come back on the record to

4054
02:20:45,031 --> 02:20:47,065
adjourn.

4055
02:20:45,397 --> 02:21:22,301
» com. Wilma pinder:  thank you

4056
02:20:47,132 --> 02:21:29,575
very much.  Close close.

4057
02:21:22,368 --> 02:35:00,185
[closed session]

4058
02:34:50,008 --> 02:42:57,795
[closed session continues]

4059
02:42:55,693 --> 02:43:00,431
[closed session]

4060
02:42:57,862 --> 02:43:01,999
[closed session continues]

4061
02:43:02,066 --> 02:43:04,635
continues][closed session]

4062
02:43:02,633 --> 02:43:05,169
[closed session continues]

4063
02:43:05,236 --> 02:43:09,407
continues][closed session]

4064
02:43:06,838 --> 02:43:09,940
[closed session continues]

4065
02:43:10,007 --> 02:43:14,178
continues][closed session]

4066
02:43:11,609 --> 02:43:14,712
[closed session continues]

4067
02:43:14,779 --> 02:43:18,949
continues][closed session]

4068
02:43:16,381 --> 02:43:19,450
[closed session continues]

4069
02:43:19,517 --> 02:43:37,468
continues][closed session]

4070
02:43:21,085 --> 02:43:37,468
[closed session continues]

4071
02:51:53,264 --> 02:51:57,067
continues][closed session]

4072
02:51:54,498 --> 02:51:57,601
[closed session continues]

4073
02:51:57,668 --> 02:52:14,051
continues][closed session]

4074
03:05:19,969 --> 03:49:37,157
[closed session continues]

4075
03:49:34,088 --> 03:49:39,559
» com. Allan t. Marks:  this is

4076
03:49:37,224 --> 03:49:42,662
alan marks president of the

4077
03:49:39,626 --> 03:49:51,971
commission.

4078
03:49:42,729 --> 03:49:53,606
» speaker:  we're back in open

4079
03:49:52,038 --> 03:49:56,577
session report-out actions from

4080
03:49:53,673 --> 03:50:05,185
the closed session start with

4081
03:49:56,643 --> 03:50:06,653
action item one involving case

4082
03:50:05,252 --> 03:50:08,054
called gabriel gonzalez versus

4083
03:50:06,720 --> 03:50:09,823
los angeles department of water

4084
03:50:08,121 --> 03:50:12,826
and power the board did not

4085
03:50:09,890 --> 03:50:17,964
approve the plaintiff's offer to

4086
03:50:12,893 --> 03:50:19,065
compromise the case at

4087
03:50:18,031 --> 03:50:21,868
$9,950,000.  Agenda item five

4088
03:50:19,132 --> 03:50:23,937
the case of randy simon versus

4089
03:50:21,935 --> 03:50:27,006
city of los angeles of water and

4090
03:50:24,004 --> 03:50:29,209
power the board consented to a

4091
03:50:27,073 --> 03:50:32,312
settlement of the matter in the

4092
03:50:29,276 --> 03:50:37,851
amount of $500,000.

4093
03:50:32,379 --> 03:50:41,354
item six kathia versus ladwp the

4094
03:50:37,918 --> 03:50:45,659
board consented to a settlement

4095
03:50:41,421 --> 03:50:48,261
in the amount of $775,000.

4096
03:50:45,726 --> 03:50:52,499
board agenda item three in the

4097
03:50:48,328 --> 03:50:54,901
case of kara zakus versus ladwp

4098
03:50:52,566 --> 03:50:57,804
the board provided settlement

4099
03:50:54,968 --> 03:51:01,608
authority to make a 998 offer

4100
03:50:57,871 --> 03:51:03,443
for $200,000.  And in the

4101
03:51:01,675 --> 03:51:05,078
molener case, molener versus

4102
03:51:03,510 --> 03:51:16,223
city of los angeles no action

4103
03:51:05,145 --> 03:51:17,257
was taken, and item number four,

4104
03:51:16,290 --> 03:51:19,025
yechzkia versus ladwp was

4105
03:51:17,324 --> 03:51:20,026
deferred

4106
03:51:19,092 --> 03:51:22,963
» com. Allan t. Marks:  thank

4107
03:51:20,093 --> 03:51:25,098
you.  With no further business,