[0:07] » board secretary, chante [0:07] mitchell: good morning and [0:08] welcome to the regular meeting [0:09] of the board of water and power [0:12] commissioners. Today is tuesday [0:14] january 13th, 2026. This [0:16] proceeding is being broadcast on [0:18] channel 35. Exact broadcast [0:19] times can be found by contacting [0:21] channel 35. Board of water and [0:23] power commissioners please say [0:25] present for roll call. [0:28] commissioner katz? [0:29] » pres. Nurit katz: present. [0:29] » board secretary, chante [0:30] mitchell: commissioner marks? [0:32] » allan t. Marks: present. [0:33] » board secretary, chante [0:34] mitchell: commissioner pinder? [0:35] » com. Wilma pinder: present. [0:35] » board secretary, chante [0:36] mitchell: commissioner tran? [0:38] » benny b. Tran: present. [0:39] » board secretary, chante [0:40] mitchell: four board members. [0:41] a quorum is present. [0:44] commissioner pinder? [0:45] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [0:46] good morning to those who are [0:47] here before us today. I am your [0:51] presiding officer for today. [0:54] and I have to say, if you're a [0:57] football person, I have had more [1:01] notes, more -- wire for sound -- [1:06] I wish I was, to get us through [1:08] this first meeting of the year. [1:10] because it's a new position for [1:11] me sitting here today, and I [1:15] have said to the commission [1:18] secretary, who you have known [1:20] for a longer time than myself, [1:22] to, please, call in any plays [1:26] from the side to -- she does not [1:27] have to jump up to hand me a [1:30] note, she can just say, [1:32] commissioner look at item number [1:33] so and so, and that's the way [1:35] we're going to get through this [1:36] today. So, I want you to bear [1:39] with me in that respect. Again [1:42] for those of you that follow [1:45] football, we just hope there [1:47] won't be too many fumbles, or if [1:49] there are, we can recover the [1:50] ball. And I say that because I [1:56] understand that that bear's [2:00] game, former usc quarter back -- [2:03] somebody tell me his name, kay [2:07] leg lab williams, I understand [2:12] that was one of the most [2:13] recovery from being down so long [2:14] and catching up since he's a [2:20] trojan and I'm a trojan I'm [2:22] going to try to bring that [2:23] spirit here today. [2:25] [laughter] [2:25] so, anyway just bare with me and [2:27] have humor as we go through [2:29] this. At this point I'm going [2:30] to ask -- by the way, you will [2:33] see new faces here other and [2:36] faces that haven't reached -- so [2:39] we'll say retired are no longer [2:41] on the board I'm going to ask, [2:44] starting with my left, then [2:46] follow to my right then after [2:50] commissioner katz, after those [2:51] who have spoken I'm going to ask [2:53] these new commissioners and when [2:55] I say new commissioners, let's [2:57] just clap -- okay? New [3:01] commissioners. [3:01] [applause] [3:01] I don't know them very well [3:03] myself and as you know anything [3:06] about robert's rules we can [3:09] never any three of us ever be [3:11] together at the same time unless [3:12] it's on record and all of that, [3:16] so it's more torturous than you [3:20] know even trying to get to know [3:21] your commissioners, and, so, [3:25] I'll probably learn more about [3:27] them today, certainly, than [3:29] previously. So starting to my [3:30] left commissioner benny tran, [3:33] would you please share with our [3:34] audience which is both live and [3:38] here, anything you care to say? [3:41] » benny b. Tran: thank you [3:42] madam commissioner, and madam [3:44] intern chair. My name is benny [3:46] tran, I have worked in many [3:47] different sectors, including the [3:52] sustainability sector with the [3:54] climate initiative also in [3:56] public health and I had the [3:57] pleasure of moving to los [3:59] angeles. Never having been here [4:01] before to start the los angeles [4:02] football club and be a major [4:04] part of building the stadium of [4:06] which we partnered with the [4:09] ladwp very early on in the [4:11] savings by design program and [4:12] also the ev changing program. [4:15] and ladwp was most recently, [4:17] until this past year, we'll see [4:19] if we continue to be that, was [4:24] that were our main partners at [4:26] los angeles football club it's [4:27] been a great journey and great [4:29] ride. I was also recently a [4:32] board commissioner for parks and [4:35] recs, sorry -- recs and parks, [4:43] symbologies apologies -- what [4:46] you do here supporting mayor [4:48] bass and for citizens of los [4:51] angeles incredible work a lot of [4:53] work very unique very [4:54] important and to be one of the [4:56] innovative utilities nonetheless [4:58] public utility and I look [4:59] forward to working with everyone [5:02] and also serve the citizens of [5:04] this great city of los angeles. [5:07] thank you very much. [5:08] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [5:10] commissioner alan marks? [5:11] » allan t. Marks: commissioner [5:13] pinder, thank you very much. [5:14] and also thank you for the kind [5:15] welcome, I was confirmed and [5:18] joined the commission, this is [5:20] my first meeting, but I joined [5:22] in the middle of december and [5:24] since then it's been like [5:25] drinking from a firehose with [5:28] all of the information I'm al ax [5:32] marks I'm a lawyer have worked [5:33] in energy and infrastructure in [5:34] the private sector for 35 years [5:36] this is my first public role and [5:38] I think commissioner pinder and [5:41] commissioner katz, your [5:42] experience has been vital, and I [5:43] will say for both of you thank [5:45] you for being so welcoming and [5:46] helping with this process. And [5:49] commissioner tran, I look [5:50] forward to working with you too. [5:52] we're new kids on the block. [5:54] and I know janisse quiñones, the [5:58] ceo, is not here today but she [6:01] and the rest of the senior [6:03] leadership team at the [6:05] department have also been [6:06] likewise very helpful in helping [6:08] me to understand some of the [6:10] complexity of this publicly [6:12] owned utility one of the things [6:14] I think that's important it's [6:17] different about being at a [6:18] publicly owned utility we're [6:21] accountable to the citizens [6:23] accountable to the residents we [6:25] are accountable to the people of [6:26] the city of los angeles not [6:28] private shareholders we have [6:30] talented and dedicated workforce [6:32] of nearly 12,000 employees at [6:33] dwp and for me to have [6:34] opportunity to give back to the [6:36] community where my grandparents [6:38] first came in 1915 and to be [6:40] part of the standing of legacy [6:42] of current commissioners of [6:44] prior commissioners of most [6:45] recently president richard katz, [6:47] you know, people who have built [6:49] this community and built this [6:50] institution is really a [6:51] privilege and honor. So, I [6:54] appreciate mayor bas and the [7:00] city council for their trust I [7:01] look forward to earping it and I [7:02] know we and by we I mine the [7:06] commission take the liberty of [7:07] speaking on behalf as well as [7:10] management and the employees you [7:11] know that we at the department [7:13] of water and power take very [7:14] seriously the goal and I look [7:15] forward to furthering the goals [7:17] of keeping water and power in [7:18] the city of los angeles [7:20] reliable, affordable, safe, and [7:24] clean. Thank you very much. [7:27] » pres. Nurit katz: thank you. [7:29] » com. Wilma pinder: will you [7:30] please? [7:31] » pres. Nurit katz: yeah [7:31] absolutely I will say a word of [7:33] welcome to both of our new [7:35] commissioners I think [7:35] commissioner pinder and I are [7:38] both delighted by your [7:39] appointments the wealth of [7:41] expertise that you both bringing [7:43] to the dais and oversight of the [7:45] utility as you heard from [7:47] commissioner marks and [7:48] commissioner tran they both have [7:50] a lot of really important [7:52] background and knowledge ranging [7:55] from sustainability, [7:56] construction, infrastructure [7:57] finance all extremely relevant [7:58] to ensure that we continue as [7:59] commissioner marks said, to [8:02] provide reliable and affordable [8:05] energy and clean water. But [8:06] also as we move towards the [8:08] future and the ambitious goals [8:09] of the city of los angeles, [8:11] moving to 100% clean energy by [8:15] 2035, and also 70% local water, [8:16] and I am really glad to have you [8:19] both here to help us continue to [8:22] move forward and continue to [8:24] improve the work of this [8:25] utility, and I certainly echo [8:27] your comments in terms of being [8:29] honored to serve in such an [8:31] amazing organization. We have [8:32] so much talent and expertise in [8:35] our staff and, you know, [8:37] especially, I know later today [8:39] we're going to hear about storm [8:42] preparations and actions and I [8:44] especially am grateful for all [8:45] of our field staff who are out [8:48] there, rain or shine, or wind, [8:50] or, you know, we don't get much [8:53] sleet and snow here in los [8:54] angeles, but really out there in [8:55] difficult conditions. So, thank [8:57] you commissioner pinder, and [8:58] welcome commissioners marks and [9:01] tran. [9:02] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [9:14] I think we're ready at this [9:16] point for general public [9:17] comment. [9:17] » board secretary, chante [9:17] mitchell: thank you [9:18] commissioner pinder to the [9:18] people providing public comment [9:20] when it's your turn to speak [9:21] please state which of the agenda [9:22] items you would like to speak [9:23] to. You will have two minutes [9:26] per item up to five minutes [9:28] total if you are speaking on a [9:29] specific item stay on topic [9:31] otherwise your time will be [9:32] forfeited. If you are only [9:34] speaking for general public [9:35] comment you will have two [9:37] minutes during general public [9:38] comment members of the public [9:39] may speak to any of the items [9:41] and anything else within ladwp's [9:43] subject matter jurisdiction. A [9:44] timer will sound when your time [9:48] allotment has expired. The [9:50] first speaker will be aleta [9:55] banda, followed by jeer [10:03] gerardo. [10:03] » speaker: good morning I know [10:04] I only have two minutes and I [10:07] want to be fast, kind of nervous [10:12] the reason I'm here today is [10:13] because I have a problem with my [10:15] bill it's been for the past [10:17] three years I have been trying [10:18] to get in touch with whoever can [10:20] help me with this but every time [10:21] I try I sends all the paper [10:24] requests but never get an answer [10:26] back so they transfer me from [10:27] one person to another and I [10:28] really need on get an answer on [10:31] this that's the many reason I'm [10:32] here today. And, well, this's [10:36] basically why I'm here today. I [10:37] really need help on this. And [10:40] it's been more than three years. [10:42] and they said that because I [10:44] accept the charges, but the only [10:46] reason I accept the charges is [10:47] because I used to have a [10:49] business so they went over and [10:51] cut the water at my business and [10:54] it's something that they [10:56] transfer from somebody else. So [10:57] how do I -- I wasn't able to say [10:59] no, because if I say no, I won't [11:01] be able to keep my business [11:04] running. So that's the only [11:05] reason I accept the charges, but [11:07] until today, they are just still [11:08] avoiding me. And I think that's [11:10] not fair at all. [11:12] » com. Wilma pinder: would you [11:13] state the amount on that bill? [11:15] » speaker: of course. I have [11:17] the bill with me, and I already [11:19] paid half of that. [11:20] » com. Wilma pinder: it's okay. [11:21] » speaker: I already paid half. [11:22] it was this amount. $103,000 [11:30] 447. And I don't think this's [11:32] fair at all. [11:33] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [11:33] I seen it when I stepped into [11:35] the audience to speak to you. I [11:36] thank you for bring thatting [11:42] that matter before us. [11:43] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: we have [11:44] a representative from customer [11:46] relations office who can assist [11:48] meet with the customer right now [11:50] then provide a report to the [11:51] board on the situation what we [11:52] might be able to help with. [11:56] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [11:57] so much. [11:59] » speaker: I appreciate it. [12:00] » com. Wilma pinder: they are [12:01] going to address that with you [12:04] today while you're here. [12:07] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: we'll [12:08] meet with you madam. [12:14] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [12:15] for bringing that to our [12:16] attention. Thank you everyone. [12:17] before we go I want to say [12:19] something about this agenda [12:20] because I have skipped ahead for [12:23] item b it was to be election of [12:25] officers so that we had [12:27] permanent president however I'm [12:29] going to move that election [12:30] since I'm enjoying this so much [12:32] I'm going to move that election [12:33] to the end of our agenda so if [12:35] there is someone who is waiting [12:38] for that particular spot I have [12:40] now moved it to the end of the [12:41] agenda because we might get into [12:44] a 50 fight and save our energy [12:46] to the end of the meeting item b [12:48] look of officers is now moved to [12:50] the end of the agenda. Thank [12:53] you. So let us continue. [12:56] » board secretary, chante [12:56] mitchell: the next speaker will [12:57] be gerardo ledesma followed by [13:04] ernesto macias. [13:05] » speaker: good morning [13:06] commissioners I'm going to talk [13:07] about item 17 my name is [13:12] gerardo, owner of tree service [13:14] kings thank you for the [13:15] opportunity to continue to serve [13:16] the city of la. Tree service [13:18] kings was born and raised here [13:20] in los angeles in 2006 we [13:22] started by servicing homeowners [13:25] and commercial properties. Then [13:27] our utility company. This is [13:29] our backyard. We are constantly [13:31] meeting and exceeding our [13:34] expectation -- our performance [13:37] expectations, services in both [13:40] areas of the metro and valley we [13:43] can respond quickly and be more [13:46] efficient we take pride in [13:47] reduces outages caused by [13:49] vegetation this is not just a [13:50] contract to us this is our city, [13:52] employees, and our families. [13:53] and our crews show up every day [13:56] in difficult conditions, heat, [13:58] wind, rain, or in emergencies [14:00] because we end how critical this [14:01] work is to the safety and to the [14:04] stability of our city. Over [14:06] these five years, we have earned [14:09] the trust of ladwp's field team [14:12] and leadership through constant [14:14] performance, safety, and being [14:17] the ability. Respectfully asked [14:20] to consider awarding tree [14:22] service kings full base so we [14:24] can continue doing what we have [14:26] been doing successfully for five [14:28] years protecting the city [14:29] prevent says outages and serving [14:32] los angeles with pride. Thank [14:33] you. [14:34] » com. Wilma pinder: so was [14:35] this a situation -- sir, was [14:38] this a situation where you [14:39] simply did not get the bid? [14:42] » speaker: the bid is divided [14:44] into two. We're the lowest [14:46] bidder as a whole, for the whole [14:49] bid, but the bid got divided [14:53] into two and in one area where [14:55] you're a bit higher than our [14:59] competitors. [14:59] » com. Wilma pinder: well it's [15:00] a competitive situation every [15:02] time every dollar counts I'm [15:05] just sharing that. I don't know [15:08] anything about that I don't know [15:09] other than what you said I [15:10] appreciate how you have [15:13] presented yourself here no [15:14] hostility just saying I'm in the [15:16] game I want to stay with it but [15:18] those are the rules that we try [15:20] to follow because we're man [15:21] dated to do that. You have been [15:23] heard. Stay in the process, [15:25] stay in the bidding. As you [15:27] said, since 2006, you have been [15:29] in this, you wouldn't be this [15:31] far ahead 20 years if you didn't [15:33] know your apples and your [15:34] dollars and all of that. So, I [15:36] wish you good luck with that. [15:39] » speaker: thank you very much. [15:40] » board secretary, chante [15:40] mitchell: the next speaker will [15:41] be ernesto macias who will be [15:44] followed by ryan meyers. [15:51] » speaker: good morning [15:52] commissioners my name is ernesto [15:55] macias here to speak on [15:57] agenda item number 17 I'm here [15:59] representing tree service kings [16:01] a proud local meernt opened [16:02] business based in the city of [16:04] los angeles. I'm asking the [16:05] commission to reconsider [16:08] awarding both group 1 and 2 [16:12] around ifb number 700, solely to [16:15] tsk. Tsq isn't just [16:17] headquartered here, our [16:20] employees are raised here, raise [16:23] families here and support this [16:24] community every paycheck we [16:26] issue stays local every dollar [16:28] earned is spent in los angeles. [16:29] when you award to tsk, you are [16:32] directly investing in the people [16:34] who make this city wrun. In [16:42] contrast utility tree service is [16:45] not local their paperwork shows [16:48] chino uts subsidiary of aspen [16:52] tree expert company [16:54] headquartered in philadelphia, [16:56] pa, they are not embedded in [16:58] this community and their track [17:00] record raises serious concerns [17:01] when uts previously held this [17:03] contract they struggled to meet [17:05] ladwp's expectations. They [17:08] turned to tsk for help. They [17:14] help keep the system afloat some [17:16] of the struggles may not be [17:18] public but we respectfully ask [17:21] staff and commission to examine [17:22] those reviews and operational [17:25] reports closely these serious [17:26] questions about their current [17:29] capacity to take on ladwp most [17:31] demanding region which is the [17:33] metro reliability and responses [17:34] are critical. Tsk has [17:37] delivered. We have reduced tree [17:39] related outages, trim suggest on [17:41] schedule, and our annual ladwp [17:42] is able to manage the entire [17:44] city with its current staffing [17:45] levels because of our [17:48] efficiency. During the [17:51] palisades fire -- tsk deployed [17:56] over 20 crews working seven days [18:00] a week all while maintaining a [18:02] full system that's not theory [18:04] that's commitment and action we [18:07] know our protest appeal were [18:09] denied we respect that process [18:10] but the concerns remain and so [18:12] this opportunity to do what's [18:14] right for the city awarding both [18:16] areas to tsk means that [18:20] operational success it's about [18:26] trusting the people who have [18:28] prove app themselves keeping our [18:29] resources in our communities [18:31] standing with the workforce [18:32] that's showing up where it [18:34] matters most. Thank you. [18:35] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [18:36] I would repeat pretty much what [18:39] I said to the gentleman who [18:40] spoke before you that was the [18:42] same company correct? [18:44] » speaker: yes, ma'am. [18:45] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [18:46] as far as something being [18:47] outside of the city or state the [18:48] city of los angeles department [18:50] of water and power we do [18:52] business with people all over [18:53] the united states if it comes to [18:55] that so while we are certainly [18:57] always looking for what we're [18:59] trying to accomplish and the [19:00] people who handle the [19:03] commissioners we do not handle [19:04] the bids we have expert people [19:06] who are handling those type of [19:08] things but wouldn't want you to [19:09] think that bids are simply [19:12] looked at regionally or these [19:14] are our people we don't think [19:15] like that we are thinking [19:17] economic range here so your [19:18] remarks have been heard as I [19:21] said to the other gentleman, [19:24] this is the company with 20 [19:27] years and as you said you [19:29] produce and do good things and [19:30] I'm sure you will be looked at [19:32] in a continuing and competitive [19:34] situation with ladwp. [19:35] » speaker: thank you madam [19:37] commissioner. [19:38] » com. Wilma pinder: you're [19:38] welcome. [19:39] » nurit katz: may I respond as [19:40] well, commissioner? [19:43] » com. Wilma pinder: please. [19:46] another commissioner. [19:47] » nurit katz: yes thank you to [19:50] both of the tree service kings [19:52] speakers really appreciate you [19:54] raising these concerns I will [19:57] one year with renewal options so [20:00] we take seriously concerns and [20:02] considerations obviously it's [20:03] complex when coming from a [20:06] competitor but to the community [20:08] if you have concerns with either [20:10] company please do raise those [20:11] we'll look closely at the [20:14] performance of these contracts [20:15] and long-term will continue to [20:17] consider through this [20:18] competitive process the best [20:19] positions for the city. It's a [20:22] legal process the rfq process so [20:24] we do not have the option to [20:26] award the contract differently [20:28] today. But I will is say to the [20:30] tree service king speakers, [20:32] thank you for your service so [20:34] far. As commissioner pinder [20:36] said please continue to bid as [20:38] needed and on a personal note, [20:42] did I have a backyard tree [20:44] trimming recently for utility [20:46] lines and was appreciative of [20:47] the notice and service that I [20:48] received. So, again, thank you [20:49] for the service you have given [20:51] so far although we're not able [20:53] to change the awarding of the [20:54] contract today. Again, we [20:55] welcome any feedback from the [20:56] community on any of our [20:58] contractors, and we will [20:59] continue to evaluate the [21:00] performance of these contracts [21:01] over time. [21:04] » board secretary, chante [21:05] mitchell: the next speaker is [21:05] ryan meyers who will be followed [21:08] by valerie lizeraga. [21:19] » speaker: I'm ryan meyers [21:21] director of operations of [21:23] utility tree service we'll -- [21:25] I'll be speaking to item 17. [21:26] good morning commissioners and [21:27] thank you for the opportunity to [21:30] partners with ladwp on [21:30] vegetation management services [21:32] on behalf of utility tree [21:34] service. We're honored to [21:35] support your mission, keeping [21:37] your electric system safe, [21:38] reliable, and compliant for the [21:40] communities that you serve. [21:41] in the prebid conference you [21:43] emphasized that you intended to [21:46] make two awards one contract [21:48] area north and south we just [21:50] want to thank you for choosing u [21:52] are tilt tree service in the [21:53] south it's a smart strategic [21:55] decision for ladwp and customers [21:56] and we are a local company. We [21:58] are a california llc, but we [22:00] have over 700 employees here. [22:04] our employees live within [22:05] drivable distance of ladwp and [22:07] we serve every major utility [22:09] here in the state from san [22:11] diego, socal edison, pg&e, north [22:20] sacramento smud so we're well [22:21] versed in the industry as far as [22:25] value we deliver the lowest life [22:28] cycle cost while maintaining [22:31] highest standards of safety [22:33] quality and regulatory [22:34] compliance which is huge for us [22:36] our safety performance leading [22:38] it. Cir injury incident rate is [22:43] consistently 50% better than [22:45] competitors in the industry [22:46] which as you know this is very [22:48] dangerous work here that we do [22:50] our teams have isa certified [22:53] arborists and utility [22:55] specialists with decades of [22:57] experience on a l.e.d. Wp system [23:01] what differentiates us we [23:06] haven't a comprehensive employee [23:08] screening we verify drug test [23:11] all employees ensure 100% [23:13] compliance with federal [23:15] standards osha ansi standards [23:19] soc two certified it huge this [23:22] industry here to safeguard all [23:24] distribution transmission data [23:27] is a huge thing rapid [23:29] mobilization capabilities within [23:29] the state as well outside of the [23:31] state as you know with the [23:32] recent fires and things like [23:34] that we have workforce can tap [23:37] on -- was that two minutes? [23:41] I'll wrap up here committed [23:43] transparency collaboration [23:43] continues improvement our goal [23:45] is to align with ladwp [23:47] operational priorities community [23:48] values delivering best class [23:49] vegetation management every day [23:50] we want to thank you for your [23:52] trust look forward to partnering [23:54] with ladwp answering questions [23:56] getting to work we're ready to [23:59] deliver the best-in-class [24:01] vegetation management solutions [24:02] that align with your operational [24:05] goals and community. Thank you. [24:07] » nurit katz: I invited the [24:09] community to provide feedback on [24:10] these contractors I did not mean [24:12] to the commission so the [24:13] commission is not engaged in [24:15] selecting these vendors we are [24:17] approving the contract but the [24:18] selection is by staff so if you [24:20] have feedback on the service of [24:21] these contractors please share [24:23] with ladwp staff that is always [24:26] welcome. [24:27] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [24:28] f that's important clarity [24:29] because we don't do that thank [24:30] you. [24:31] » speaker: thank you. [24:31] » board secretary, chante [24:32] mitchell: the next speaker is [24:33] valerie lizeraga followed by [24:37] fateme murietta. [24:38] » speaker: good morning I'm [24:39] going to make a general comment. [24:41] good morning commissioners my [24:41] name is valerie, I'm the [24:43] assistant director of organizing [24:46] and policy with jobs to [24:54] america's western states team [24:56] jma is a national non-profit [24:58] organization that conducts [25:00] rigorous independent research on [25:01] manufacturing economy and works [25:02] in coalition with communities to [25:04] negotiate community benefit [25:05] agreements and benefit all [25:07] stakeholders including promoting [25:09] safe quality jobs in [25:11] september 2025 members of our [25:14] team partners joined the board [25:16] of water and power commissioners [25:19] meeting to share about a new [25:21] report that was published by jma [25:23] after two years of investigation [25:24] which documented troubling labor [25:26] and environmental conditions at [25:28] neptune technology group major [25:31] manufacture of smart water [25:33] meters based in tallahassee, [25:36] alabama and key supplier of [25:37] ladwp neptune workers surveyed [25:40] reported having witnessed or [25:42] experienced at least one serious [25:44] injury on the job nearly 70 [25:46] survey workers reported [25:49] experiencing or witnessing [25:52] unfair treatment including [25:56] favoritism inconsistent [25:57] discipline racism and sexism and [25:59] that two landfills where neptune [26:02] sends its waste have long been [26:04] focus of environmental justice [26:06] investigations and litigation we [26:07] believe that the city of los [26:09] angeles and ladwp can and should [26:09] continue to be a leader in [26:12] uplifting strong workers and [26:14] standards and procuring [26:15] equipment from companies that [26:16] treat workers and surrounding [26:18] communities with responsibility [26:19] and respect is crucial at the [26:21] board meeting in september 2025 [26:22] the board committed to [26:24] investigating these findings and [26:26] agendaize this item for further [26:28] discussion we're here to ask the [26:30] board for an update to follow up [26:34] regarding these concerns and ask [26:36] you to follow-through with your [26:37] commitment to agendaize this [26:39] important item for further [26:41] discussion. Thank you. I'll [26:42] end that we brought two copies [26:44] of the report for the two new [26:45] commissioners and also want to [26:46] say welcome. Thank you. Please [26:48] let us know how we should hand [26:51] it to you all. [26:52] » com. Wilma pinder: someone [26:52] will take it now. Thank you. [26:55] » board secretary, chante [26:55] mitchell: the next speaker will [26:57] be fateme marietta followed by [27:01] martin marufo. [27:04] » speaker: good morning my name [27:05] is fateme I'm here to give [27:08] public comment I'm a senior [27:09] organizer with jobs to move [27:10] america and I was also here at [27:13] the last board meeting in [27:15] september 2025 and shared key [27:16] findings that valerie just [27:18] reviewed with you. And I'm here [27:20] again to respectfully ask the [27:21] board to follow-through with [27:23] your commitment to investigate [27:24] these findings and to agendaize [27:28] a report back at an upcoming [27:32] board meeting. Since we last [27:35] spoke to you about the report [27:36] neptune has hired a consultant [27:38] to meet with workers on the [27:43] clock to, "represent neptune in [27:46] their facility at tallahassee [27:48] and alabama and developing a [27:50] training and communication [27:50] materials regarding the national [27:53] labor relations act according to [27:56] the federal disclosure [27:58] documents." neptune has [28:01] characterized mischaracterized [28:03] reports and findings and jm's [28:06] activities these actions are [28:08] concerning the good [28:09] neighborhoods alabama coalition [28:11] is made up of 25 organizations [28:12] and jma is one of them, aiming [28:15] to partner with workers in the [28:18] community in the company to [28:19] address the issues outlined in [28:20] the report our hope is that [28:22] workers and community in alabama [28:24] who build these water saving [28:25] infrastructure products for los [28:26] angeles are doing so in safe and [28:28] fair working conditions and that [28:30] strong environmental standards [28:32] are put in place to protect [28:33] surrounding communities. The [28:34] coalition has asked neptune to [28:36] take the report's finding [28:38] seriously and to come together [28:39] in the pursuit of real solutions [28:41] but in a communication to its [28:43] workers neptune falsely stated [28:46] the report was, quote "coupled [28:49] with demand that the company [28:51] recognizes a labor union and [28:53] requirement that workers pay [28:56] union dues." neptune also [28:58] falsely allege that good [29:01] neighbors alabama approximate [29:03] and jobs to move measuring try [29:05] to trick workers into signing [29:07] authorization cards. All not [29:10] true. In our opinion neptune [29:17] miscarries reminded us of union [29:20] tactics and we want a commitment [29:22] to win-win solution to solve [29:23] these serious problems and look [29:25] forward to seeing this item [29:27] agenda at a future board meeting [29:30] and hearing back from the board. [29:33] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [29:34] » nurit katz: we did request [29:35] that staff investigate this [29:36] issue and appreciate you raising [29:38] it and will certainly reach out [29:39] when there is resolution or [29:41] additional information from the [29:42] water system. Thank you. [29:43] » board secretary, chante [29:44] mitchell: next speaker martin [29:47] marufa followed by bruce [29:50] resnick. [29:50] » speaker: good morning [29:51] commission good morning staff [29:55] good morning everybody for the [29:56] new members what were you [29:58] thinking? [29:59] [laughter] [29:59] this is a very difficult job [30:01] there is a lot here. I'm a [30:04] lifelong resident of los angeles [30:06] went to public schools did the [30:08] whole route worked southern [30:10] california edison former [30:13] employee of ladwp generation [30:14] steam generation for a long time [30:16] out on the outside but it's [30:18] important for the residents for [30:20] the citizens for member adlies [30:23] at ibw local 18 because I'm the [30:27] business manager also ibw local [30:29] 18 to have reliable efficient [30:32] affordable power scattering [30:34] generating station has been [30:36] discussed for many years the [30:38] repower it's utmost important we [30:39] get this handled pushed through [30:42] we have environmental concerns I [30:44] live in wilmington I'm right [30:46] next to harbor generating [30:48] station so I understands what [30:49] it's like to live next to a [30:51] power plant we also have [30:53] refineries and we have chemical [30:54] plants there but the important [30:56] of having reliable power now at [30:59] this time is important we cannot [31:01] ignore the impact that it will [31:02] have we believe that we should [31:04] be going to renewable power but [31:06] the technology is not there this [31:08] is an opportunity at scattergood [31:11] to have hydrogen introduced to [31:13] our system and this is going to [31:14] help us get to that next level [31:16] we understand that hydrogen will [31:18] be difficult and challenging but [31:19] it's not impossible we need to [31:21] find a way to fix this it's not [31:24] acceptable to just kick this can [31:25] down the road we are working [31:27] with environmental groups spoken [31:29] at the water resources board to [31:31] talk about expending some of the [31:33] allowances we have to continue [31:35] generating and using gas powered [31:37] energy but we're at a point [31:38] right now where we need on get [31:41] this passed and pushed forward. [31:43] please, take all the time and [31:44] attention you need but this is [31:46] of utmost importance to [31:48] everybody, member citizens, all [31:50] of us. Thank you. [31:51] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [31:51] for your comment. [31:53] » board secretary, chante [31:54] mitchell: final speaker will be [31:55] mr. Bruce resnik. [31:58] » speaker: good morning. My [32:04] name is bruce resnik executive [32:07] director of la water keeper [32:08] thank you for the opportunity to [32:09] speak today different commission [32:10] from the last time I testified I [32:12] see some new folks here and [32:14] welcome. I'm here to support [32:15] the groundwater replenishment [32:17] project and all modifications [32:19] made. Wastewater recycling is [32:29] scro [32:30] absolutely critical at 70% local [32:33] water goal just to be water [32:36] secure water resilient city and [32:37] expanding the tillman project [32:39] from the rim 25mgd to 45mgd is [32:46] extremely cost-effective license [32:50] the project was already being [32:53] developed to get 20mgd of local [32:57] water and potentially reduce [32:59] expensive energy intensive [33:01] pumping of water from hyperion [33:04] backpack to the valley when the [33:06] full pure water la project comes [33:09] on board that being said we're [33:12] concerned the commission and [33:13] staff take count to make sure [33:14] that we're protecting flows in [33:17] the la river when we're -- [33:21] exactly this water we have [33:22] actually been working closely [33:23] with staff over the last couple [33:25] of years protecting critical [33:27] flows of la river. We also [33:30] look forward to the broader pure [33:32] water la project coming online. [33:34] I county stand up here and ever [33:36] -- you know, without saying [33:38] hopefully sooner than the 2056 [33:39] goal it's such a critical [33:41] project and another great [33:42] project for workers and labor [33:46] and also both these projects [33:47] that are groundwater [33:50] replenishment and the broader [33:51] pure water la are going to be [33:52] critical for us to reduce our [33:54] import of water from places like [33:59] mono lake and of course mwd [34:01] colorado river and bay delta and [34:04] help restore those critical [34:07] ecosystems to help. [34:08] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [34:09] very much. I believe that was [34:10] the last public speaker. [34:12] » board secretary, chante [34:12] mitchell: public comment is now [34:13] closed at this time. [34:14] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [34:15] the next agenda item item f [34:18] reporting and briefing. And, [34:20] joe, while we know you well, [34:23] since there are various people [34:24] in the audience who may have [34:26] come just to hear our ceo's [34:29] remarks, will you introduce [34:30] yourself and give a little [34:32] background to our general [34:33] manager audience before making [34:35] that report? [34:35] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: sure. [34:36] thank you very much [34:37] commissioner. My name is joe [34:38] ramallo, I'm chief customer [34:40] officer at ladwp. I want to be [34:42] welcome everyone today I'm [34:43] sitting in for our ceo and chief [34:48] engineer janisse quiñones today. [34:49] my team oversees and works on [34:51] all matters involving customer [34:53] service as well as billing, [34:54] dealing with key accounts as [34:56] well as residential and [34:57] commercial customers also [35:00] oversee communications and [35:00] community affairs team that does [35:02] a lot of the work including one [35:03] of the reports before you today [35:05] concerning our palisades work [35:07] over the last year. Also [35:09] supervisor our distributed [35:10] energy resources team that [35:12] involves energy efficiency, [35:14] battery storage, in-basin work. [35:16] there is an item on your agenda [35:18] today regarding significant [35:20] expansion toward our distributed [35:21] energy resources. And our [35:23] claims team, as well. So when [35:25] we have an incident in a [35:27] community, if a water main [35:28] breaks, and it affects a [35:31] customer, the claim is filed [35:33] that team reviews those claims [35:34] and works with our legal [35:35] department to find a resolution [35:37] for our customers. So very [35:39] pleased to be with you today. [35:40] we have some operational updates [35:42] f you can transition into that? [35:45] » com. Wilma pinder: yes [35:46] please. [35:46] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: we'll [35:47] start with anselmo collins water [35:50] system followed by dave hanson I [35:52] have a few items then zori eya g [35:55] who is our chief resiliency and [35:57] emergency management officer [35:58] will also speak to a couple of [36:00] items just before that I want to [36:01] say welcome to our new [36:02] commissioners pleased to you [36:03] have on board on behalf of [36:05] janisse, as well, as our entire [36:08] executive team we look forward [36:09] to working with you and for you. [36:11] and are here as a resource to [36:12] you. Thank you. With that I'll [36:14] turn it over to anselmo. [36:17] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [36:18] » anselmo collins: thank you [36:19] joe. Good morning [36:20] commissioners, anselmo collins [36:22] water system typically this time [36:24] of year a provide a water supply [36:26] report to the board because [36:27] united states this is when we [36:29] collect the snow and rain that [36:31] we use for the water supply for [36:32] the city of la we had a pretty [36:35] wet december especially towards [36:36] the end of the year beginning of [36:39] january. Between the 31st of [36:40] december and january 4th, the [36:42] city of la got around two and a [36:44] half inches of water which is [36:46] quite significant, because for [36:48] the season, typically the city [36:50] of vallejo on average gets [36:51] around 15 inches so we got two [36:55] and a half just during that [36:56] time. Since the beginning of [36:58] the water year which starts in [37:00] october until january 12th we [37:01] have received, the city of la, [37:04] 12.4 inches of water. The san [37:08] fernando valley got a little [37:10] over 17 inches of water that's a [37:12] pretty significant amount of [37:12] water that's allowed us to [37:16] capture a bit less than 56,000 [37:18] acre feet of water. Those [37:20] 56,000 acre feet of water [37:22] translates to enough water to [37:24] serve approximately 223,000 [37:27] homes in los angeles for an [37:28] entire year. So, it's a pretty [37:30] significant amount of water that [37:34] we have received. It's still [37:36] early in the season so we're [37:39] hoping to get more storms here [37:41] but also more storms up north so [37:42] we can get more snowpack. So [37:44] the department of water [37:46] resources which is a state [37:47] agency, every year conducts snow [37:49] surveys conducted their first [37:51] survey recently on december 30th [37:52] at the phillips station and they [37:54] recorded 24 inches of snow. [37:58] when you translate that to the [38:00] snow equivalent or water content [38:02] that's approximately five inches [38:03] of water a pretty good start to [38:04] the season as well. Statewide, [38:07] the snowpack right now is around [38:09] 81% of normal, and that is [38:13] measured in different locations [38:14] on average. For los angeles, as [38:16] you know, we received our water [38:18] for the la aqueduct from the [38:20] eastern part of the sierra never [38:22] add as and we have mashed with [38:24] snow pillows, approximately 13.5 [38:27] inches. Now, that number is [38:29] going to be verified by doing [38:32] our own snow surveys. Our first [38:35] snow survey will be on [38:36] february 1st. So we'll be able [38:39] to verify exactly how much snow [38:40] water content we have on the [38:42] eastern side of the sierras, [38:43] which is what provides water to [38:45] the city of los angeles. A [38:47] couple of other things I want to [38:49] mention, one quite outstanding, [38:51] so january 6th, the state of [38:54] california actually declared [38:56] that there isn't a drought [38:57] condition in the state for the [38:58] first time in 25 years. So all [39:00] parts of the state are not in a [39:02] drought. That has not happened [39:03] in 25 years. So that's pretty [39:06] significant there. [39:07] » com. Wilma pinder: in fact, I [39:07] was going to say that myself. [39:09] so, I'm so glad that you made it [39:12] an official announcement. I [39:16] mean, I don't know that the [39:17] significance of that is so great [39:20] I mean we're also concerned [39:21] about our little piece of the [39:23] pie, but to have the entire pie, [39:25] meaning california, drought [39:26] free, it's just unbelievable. [39:30] » anselmo collins: absolutely [39:30] especially considering that just [39:31] four years ago we were at the [39:33] end of a multi-year drought. So [39:35] as you can tell, as water [39:37] managers we have got to manage [39:39] when there is too much water and [39:41] also when there is not enough [39:43] water and in this case right now [39:44] we're doing well we hope to [39:46] continue with that. And that [39:47] said also the department of [39:50] water resources, they also, [39:52] every year, they provide [39:53] allocation of water for the [39:55] state water project contractors, [39:57] metropolitan water district, [39:58] which is our wholesaler, is a [40:00] state water project contractor, [40:01] the state has announced [40:02] allocation of 10%. That means [40:06] that metropolitan right now, [40:07] based on that, can get 10% of [40:09] the amount of water that they're [40:11] entitled to. Now this number [40:12] tends to change, so as the [40:15] season progresses and we get [40:16] more snowpack and more [40:18] precipitation, the state will [40:19] update that number. So, the [40:21] hope is that by the time we get [40:22] to april, when is when we start [40:24] the runoff season, that we will [40:27] have a greater allocation [40:28] percentage, which is good news [40:30] for us because we do depend, not [40:32] just on the la aqueduct, but [40:34] also on the state water project, [40:35] and the colorado river, via [40:39] metropolitan, to supply water to [40:40] the city of los angeles. And [40:42] that's the end of my report for [40:46] water supply. [40:47] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: thanks. [40:52] dave hansen senior assistant [40:55] general manager for power [40:56] system. [40:59] » dave hanson: thank you, joe. [41:02] good morning commissioners in [41:04] december last year we joined [41:06] mayor bas council member [41:10] nassearrian and several dwp [41:12] staff and climate leadership to [41:14] celebrate is a large milestone [41:17] on our path to climate [41:18] leadership to celebrate a large [41:20] milestone on our path 100% clean [41:23] energy we're proud to share that [41:25] dwp is eliminated coal from our [41:29] power supply like to thank coal [41:31] for its many years of service. [41:34] [laughter] [41:35] on november 26th, 2025 we [41:37] received the last coal fueled [41:38] energy from utah's intermountain [41:41] power project refer to as ipp [41:43] which has been the final source [41:45] of coal in our portfolio since [41:48] 2016 we utilize portfolio since [41:52] 2016 we now utilize energy from [41:54] hydrogen capable generating [41:56] units recently constructed at ip [42:00] renewed those u noveltys [42:01] currently run on natural gas and [42:02] are capable of running on fuel [42:05] blends of natural gas up to 30% [42:07] hydrogen with roadmap eventually [42:09] transitioning to 100% green [42:12] hydrogen as fuel source in the [42:13] near future we expect to add [42:15] hydrogen to the fuel mix in 2026 [42:17] normally power would be [42:19] reporting performance during [42:20] winter storm outage but ol' viv [42:24] griffith will be covering that [42:26] today since we're activated for [42:29] emergency command this time [42:32] towards the end of the year [42:33] usually get requests for solar [42:36] incentive customer projects to [42:38] be energized. We're thankful [42:40] for the group to be able to [42:41] identify that issue and pivot [42:44] and handle before we became [42:45] aware of it at the executive [42:48] level. Good job miel, john, [42:53] gary and the team. Also power [42:55] system in the middle of power [42:59] reorganization kicked that off [43:01] monday engaged with korn ferry [43:02] as our consultants for the last [43:05] year looking at moving into [43:07] functional operating model [43:08] instead of siloed built on [43:11] classifications the power reorg [43:14] bulletin draft org chat going [43:16] out today by end of the month [43:18] we'll put out the final bulletin [43:22] final org chart share with all [43:24] the commissioners also palisades [43:26] relocated u rock that's our ford [43:29] operating base for operations [43:30] and coordinating collaboration [43:32] all other city departments in [43:34] construction now being relocated [43:38] from topanga state beach to [43:40] marquez elementary school [43:42] adjacent to property and we [43:43] anticipate that will be open at [43:45] the end of this month that's it. [43:48] thank you. [43:49] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: thank [43:49] you dave a couple of items ladwp [43:52] was proud to cohost the winter [43:55] solstice ceremony on friday [43:58] december 19th fortunate to have [44:01] commissioners marks and [44:02] commissioner katz attend thank [44:03] you for going that was together [44:06] with fernandeno at that time [44:09] staffian band of mission indians [44:13] at chatsworth nature preserve, a [44:17] real gem in our water system and [44:21] community resource this [44:22] tradition began in 20215th year [44:26] of celebrating cultural heritage [44:29] this event honors ancestral [44:32] transitions promoting nature [44:33] preservation, it highlights our [44:35] commitment to protecting [44:36] sensitive habitats and engaging [44:38] the community and preserving [44:39] this unique natural space [44:41] together with our partners [44:44] from the band of mission [44:46] indians. Next monday on [44:48] january 19th we will be proudly [44:50] participating in the 41st annual [44:52] dr. Martin luther king jr. [44:55] kingdom day parade in los [44:57] angeles the parade is organized [45:00] in our city to unite our city in [45:03] celebration of freedom equality [45:05] community empowerment our human [45:07] resources outreach recruitment [45:08] services division is [45:10] spearheading our participation [45:11] in the parade hoping you would [45:12] be able to join us for that we [45:15] have employees from our own [45:16] staff in addition to members of [45:17] our national society of black [45:20] engineers ladwp chapter will be [45:22] participating pleased to have [45:23] family and friends together with [45:24] our ford lightening ev truck and [45:27] ev bucket truck to demonstrate [45:29] our commitment to inclusion and [45:30] equity and also promote jobs [45:31] here at the department looking [45:33] forward to that and welcome you [45:34] as well. I would like to [45:37] introduce zoraya oliver griffin, [45:42] our chief environment emergency [45:44] management officer to provide [45:46] update on the winter storm we [45:47] had just prior to christmas and [45:49] also on our palisades one-year [45:52] after report. [45:54] » zoraya oliver-griffin: good [46:02] morning commissioners. As we [46:04] all lived through the holiday [46:06] storm we all know that los [46:07] angeles received a record [46:10] rainfall on christmas eve in [46:12] many areas field by a severe [46:16] atmospheric river which added to [46:17] the region's rain totals as we [46:19] heard from anselmo specifically [46:21] on christmas day and early [46:22] friday. As a department we [46:23] decided to take a proactive [46:26] approach and prepared to quickly [46:28] and safely manage any forecasted [46:32] impacts as a result of the [46:34] atmospheric river which was [46:36] according to the national [46:37] weather service unprecedented [46:38] for our area this time of year [46:40] despite the additional challenge [46:42] of staffing during the christmas [46:45] eve and christmas holiday based [46:48] on increasing risk reported by [46:49] the national weather service [46:51] including heavy rainfall along [46:53] with high potential for mud [46:55] slides, and believe it or not, a [46:58] tornado portably touching [47:00] ground, which it did, the [47:03] department of emergency [47:03] operation center activated well [47:05] in advance of the storm, [47:07] prepared for cross system [47:13] operational coordination [47:14] realtime situational awareness [47:16] monitoring and impact management [47:19] proud to report that our [47:20] infrastructure both water and [47:22] power performed well against the [47:24] storm with minimal impacts to [47:26] any of our service territory any [47:28] power and water system outages [47:31] were successfully addressed [47:33] relying on existing personnel [47:34] and resources within our normal [47:37] operations timelines at peak in [47:40] the we hours of december 24th [47:43] 19,000 customers were affected [47:44] by power outages primarily as a [47:46] result of several inches of [47:50] rainfall, fallen palm fronds and [47:53] debris that came into contact [47:54] with our power lines and [47:56] equipment. Also happy to report [47:57] that all power outages and power [48:00] service was restored well within [48:02] 48 hours a tremendous thank you [48:04] to all field personnel and [48:06] responders who worked tirelessly [48:08] in challenging conditions of [48:09] rain and wind, taking time away [48:12] from their loved ones during a [48:13] special holiday season to ensure [48:15] not only a safe but a very quick [48:17] response to restore outages as [48:19] quickly as possible. I would [48:21] also like to mention that this [48:24] doc activation culminated a [48:27] very. [48:30] [ buzzer ] [48:33] 2025 for our emergency [48:36] response for the department for [48:38] a total 53 days of department [48:39] wide emergency response ranging [48:42] from wildfires atmospheric [48:43] rivers and storms civil unrest [48:45] and extended water outage and [48:48] even tsunami warning so we had a [48:51] little bit across the entire [48:53] spectrum, waiting for a volcano [48:55] to happen [48:56] [laughter] [48:56] but you know let's keep it at [48:57] bay for a while regardless I [49:00] want to assure each and every [49:01] one of you that the department [49:02] as a whole is very well prepared [49:05] for any emergency or natural [49:06] disaster that we may face in [49:09] 2026 or moving forward. [49:16] next overview of our palisades [49:18] report. Last week we passed a [49:20] very sobering milestone for our [49:23] -- for our city. With the [49:25] one-year anniversary of the [49:27] start of the tragic wind-driven [49:31] palisades fire, nothing -- [49:32] absolutely nothing can reverse [49:34] this tragedy, but I assure you, [49:37] we have spent the last year [49:38] doing everything that we [49:40] possibly can to help the [49:41] palisades community to rebuild, [49:44] and also help make los angeles [49:47] more resilient. Last week we [49:49] published our report detailing [49:50] all we have done over the past [49:52] year to support our palisades [49:53] customers and the community, as [49:56] well. The report a summary of [49:59] all efforts which focuses on how [50:02] ladwp led efforts and deployed [50:04] resources early and quickly to [50:05] support recovery for the [50:06] palisades community, the [50:08] strengthening of -- and [50:09] reliability of our water and [50:10] power systems, the things that [50:12] we're currently do to protect [50:13] our systems against ongoing [50:16] climate threats, our advancement [50:18] of partnerships to improve [50:19] climate resiliency and, finally, [50:23] leveraging all funding [50:26] opportunity paths to recover -- [50:28] to recovery and resiliency. [50:30] that report is available at [50:35] ladwp.com/palisades for any one [50:35] of our customers or the public [50:38] that would like to refer to it. [50:39] » com. Wilma pinder: buffer go [50:40] I want to be clear on something. [50:42] because if I was just a citizen [50:44] at home listening, usually when [50:47] we use the word rebuild, many [50:49] people think of that as some [50:53] financial aid or money that we [50:55] make available. When you use [50:56] the term rebuild, you are not [51:00] referring to dwp helping in a [51:03] funeral way with individual [51:05] homeowners, were you? [51:07] » zoraya oliver-griffin: that [51:08] is correct. Referring to [51:10] rebuilding of our water and [51:11] power infrastructure. [51:12] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: but I do [51:13] want to add that with respect to [51:16] customers and providing that [51:17] assistance we did not bill for [51:18] any water use for a significant [51:20] period of months following [51:21] because of the tragedy and the [51:23] loss and the inability of [51:24] actually accurately measure the [51:26] amount of water that was used by [51:28] customers whose homes were [51:30] destroyed or whose customers [51:33] whose homes were not destroyed [51:35] so that was a significant help [51:37] in addition we have extended [51:39] repayment plans for customers, [51:41] repayment plans and also we're [51:43] not doing collections through [51:46] june 30th of this year. We're [51:48] doing everything we can to [51:49] assist them with financially [51:50] even though it doesn't include [51:53] direct financial support toward [51:54] rebuilding homes. [51:56] » com. Wilma pinder: I'm very [51:56] glad you restated that because [51:59] that's very important point I [52:01] remember at the beginning when [52:03] dwp made that advisement. So [52:05] thank you joe for saying that I [52:07] didn't want anyone hearing the [52:09] remarks thinking that somehow we [52:10] were in a sense providing money [52:12] for building. And I know that [52:16] dwp has extended itself to the [52:17] residents in any way that it can [52:20] to anything that we can do that [52:23] is a direct role from us to save [52:26] them, like you said, being [52:27] billion dollar for something, [52:28] anything we can clear that is [52:30] within our range to handle. So, [52:32] thank you for restating that. [52:35] and thank you and excuse me for [52:37] interrupting you. [52:38] » zoraya oliver-griffin: no. I [52:39] appreciate you raising the [52:41] clarification. You know, I also [52:43] would be remiss if I didn't [52:44] mention and speak on behalf of [52:45] the four executives, dave, [52:48] anselmo, joe, and I, that are [52:51] very committed and working very [52:55] closely with the palisades [52:56] community to ensure that, you [52:57] know, we meet and support their [52:58] needs in a way that is relevant [53:00] to them. So, we are very [53:04] committed to working with them [53:06] so that they help us shape how [53:09] we're going to proceed with our [53:10] work in the palisades. So, it's [53:12] become being a true genuine [53:15] partnership. So, a lot of times [53:17] they may not like what we have [53:18] to say, but the four of us are [53:21] very committed to being [53:23] transparent and providing the [53:24] information when we have it, you [53:26] know, to the degree that we're [53:28] able to provide it. Okay. [53:30] thank you. And that is the end [53:31] of my report for today. [53:35] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [53:37] » >>joseph m. Ramallo: thank [53:38] you zoraya. [53:44] » nurit katz: may I comment on [53:46] the report? [53:47] » com. Wilma pinder: sure. [53:48] » nurit katz: thank you I just [53:49] want to take a moment to [53:50] acknowledge that this is our [53:52] first board meeting and so soon [53:53] after the one year anniversary [53:55] like many of you and many [53:58] angelenos I had friends and [53:59] family impacted by the fires in [54:01] 2025 both the palisades fire [54:03] here in the city of los angeles [54:05] and also the eighth on fire and [54:07] I know many of our employees did [54:09] as well some of our employees [54:11] lost homes directly or were [54:12] otherwise impacted by the fire [54:14] and I remember a year ago that [54:15] some of those employees were at [54:18] work the very next day despite [54:20] having lost their homes and [54:22] participating in the helping the [54:23] city in this time of crisis. I [54:25] want to take a moment to [54:27] acknowledge really all of our [54:28] staff and all our employees who [54:30] have been engaged in that time [54:32] of crisis and since then your [54:34] service is really inspiring and [54:37] incredible president katz would [54:39] often refer to dwp as first [54:41] responders and I want to echo [54:42] that and especially when it came [54:44] to the 2025 fire. It's amazing [54:46] to reflect back on this year and [54:47] look at everything that this [54:49] department has done from [54:50] restoring water at record speed, [54:52] water service to continuing to [54:54] advocate for fema funding, and [54:56] working on the rebuild, [55:00] providing a good source of [55:01] interaction for the community to [55:02] get all their questions answered [55:03] at the u rock, and I'm glad to [55:07] hear that movement is underway. [55:09] so thank you for that. We don't [55:12] get to plan on emergencies so I [55:15] want to acknowledge zoraya, the [55:18] whole team that was involved in [55:19] the department eoc on christmas [55:22] a holiday that I'm sure many [55:24] would have liked to be [55:26] celebrating with families so to [55:27] be activated in emergency [55:30] operations we really protected [55:31] your eye on the storm and [55:32] ensuring that power and water [55:33] were restored quickly. Lastly I [55:35] want to note that although the [55:37] state is, for the first time in [55:40] many years, out of the drought [55:42] for the moment, that with [55:43] climate change we have really [55:44] seen a whiplash so we know we're [55:46] going to have these wet years [55:48] and very dry years I want to [55:50] encourage all angelenos to keep [55:53] your eye on water conservation [55:56] just because r because we're out [55:58] of a drought for the moment [55:59] doesn't mean california doesn't [56:01] have serious water supply [56:02] challenges ahead so please [56:04] continue to take advantage of [56:05] the now increasing tougher [56:07] replacement program the leap [56:09] program for low-income families [56:10] to have free landscape [56:12] replacement and other water [56:13] saving measures. It's a big [56:16] deal dwp has transitioned away [56:17] from coal so thank you for [56:19] mentioning that, dave, and we [56:21] will continue to push forward [56:22] towards clean energy and all the [56:24] different ways that we can [56:25] address climate change and also [56:26] climate resiliency. So thank [56:29] you very much for these reports [56:32] today. [56:32] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [56:33] I wish I had included this under [56:36] my general remarks, but I'm [56:39] going to put it in right now [56:44] before I move to the ratepayer [56:46] if you will allow me. [56:48] we have had general counsel here [56:50] at all times, you often possibly [56:52] don't pay any attention, but we [56:54] have someone who is, before we [56:56] come to a meeting, things have [56:58] been screened in a legal way so [57:01] that we do not inadvertently [57:03] misstep or make a legal decision [57:06] or action that could have [57:08] repercussions. So, always, at [57:09] the end of our circle, we have [57:13] our general counsel for the [57:15] department of water and power [57:16] board of commissioners with us. [57:19] the dwp has its own legal [57:23] section, not in this building, [57:25] but in another building. In [57:27] fact we used to, when I was [57:30] here, on the 15th floor, and [57:32] they moved us to another floor, [57:34] and eventually they moved the [57:36] whole legal team out of this [57:38] building. But there are lawyers [57:39] that are dedicated just to l [57:45] ladwp, who are city employees. [57:46] and those people are here to [57:48] advise on the contracts, they're [57:52] to advise the attorneys, I said [57:55] attorneys -- commissioners, on [58:00] what we're doing. So ben [58:03] chapman kind of got away before [58:04] many of you who are regulars [58:06] here or who tune in regularly, [58:07] was acknowledged as fully as he [58:10] could have been. But someone [58:12] has stapedes -- stepped in, [58:18] because the city attorney's [58:20] office has capable attorneys [58:23] people send to take who are [58:26] government employees for granted [58:29] where all of the dwp people are [58:31] government employees they're [58:32] keeping the lights on and water [58:34] flowing so we don't want people [58:36] in little boxes and little [58:39] places and diminish what they do [58:41] in their life for all of us so [58:43] with that said I don't want to [58:46] introduce you myself miss florez [58:47] but I would love for you to tell [58:49] us not only your name, what you [58:51] do and how you assist the [58:54] commission. Will you do that [58:55] please? [58:56] » speaker: certainly. Thank [58:57] you for the nice introduction of [58:59] our whole office, office of the [59:00] city attorney, I am the chief [59:03] deputy city attorney and am [59:06] filling in, in an interim role [59:09] as general counsel for dwp given [59:10] how much is going on here, and [59:13] the unexpected retirement of the [59:15] former general counsel ben [59:17] chapman. I'm here, and our [59:20] whole office is here to provide [59:23] legal support and guidance, you [59:25] can call upon us at any time and [59:28] we're happy to help out. I am a [59:30] 23 year veteran of the city [59:33] attorney's office. I started my [59:35] career in big law, was a trial [59:39] lawyer, and then came over to [59:40] the city. It's been the best [59:42] legal decision I ever made. [59:44] it's been a great job. I was [59:46] born in la, both parents were [59:49] city employees. So, this is my [59:53] mission in life to make sure [59:55] that the city prospers and [59:58] conducts its business legally [59:59] and effectively. We want to [1:00:01] make sure the whole office of [1:00:02] the city attorney wants to make [1:00:05] sure that our clients meet their [1:00:09] goals and we're here to help you [1:00:13] do that so, thank you. [1:00:14] » com. Wilma pinder: well, I [1:00:15] appreciate you, just on the [1:00:16] spot, because I didn't tell you [1:00:18] I would do that I just sat there [1:00:20] and I looked. And I know -- [1:00:24] now, she sounded all nice and [1:00:26] sweet when she said that, now, [1:00:29] that lady is a land slapper, she [1:00:32] will get -- they make you course [1:00:34] correct very quickly. It's not [1:00:36] all smiles. And many times we [1:00:40] retire from you and we go into [1:00:42] closed session and those are the [1:00:43] matters that the charter [1:00:46] mandates that we only talk [1:00:47] offrecord with our attorney. We [1:00:48] list those cases that are in [1:00:50] litigation, you can go and look [1:00:52] them up yourselves, but we do [1:00:54] not discuss them in front of [1:00:56] you. But when we go into closed [1:00:58] session, we have the city [1:00:59] attorney's office there. We are [1:01:02] a check and balance. We comment [1:01:04] on the cases that they have, or [1:01:07] how much -- how much risk do we [1:01:10] have if we go forward with a [1:01:11] matter. So, this is -- I want [1:01:12] you to really get the sense that [1:01:14] this is not just a stagnant [1:01:16] thing here. I noticed, and it [1:01:19] was new to me, dwp people call [1:01:22] everybody by their first name. [1:01:25] so, it's -- it's -- seems [1:01:27] informal seems like everybody [1:01:29] is, you know, brother, sister, [1:01:32] lovey dovey, but people here are [1:01:34] check mates of each other. And [1:01:36] while they try to do it with a [1:01:39] smile, they do hold people to [1:01:41] follow what is correct, and that [1:01:42] goes for not only just the [1:01:44] commissioners, it goes for [1:01:47] people here who have title [1:01:48] underneath them. They have to [1:01:51] keep those people in the right [1:01:52] line, but they still allow a [1:01:54] flow of information. So, I move [1:01:56] to say all of this today because [1:01:57] I happen to have the mic, and [1:01:59] I'm able to say it today. But [1:02:02] it's just donning on me, it's [1:02:05] just donning on me, how involved [1:02:07] this is. And maybe that's even [1:02:10] why we ends up with a shift of [1:02:13] people. It's a lot to ask, even [1:02:14] the people who are getting paid, [1:02:16] and I want to remind you, we're [1:02:17] not getting paid. And there are [1:02:20] people who are -- and we're used [1:02:22] to making big decisions [1:02:25] ourselves. I know my colleagues [1:02:26] here, they still work. I happen [1:02:28] to be retired, but be that as it [1:02:32] may, if we are away from [1:02:34] whatever we're doing, our [1:02:36] family, our work, et cetera, we [1:02:37] all are committed to this. And [1:02:38] the commissioners, we wouldn't [1:02:42] want to work here -- wrong word [1:02:43] -- we wouldn't want to volunteer [1:02:45] here if we did not feel that our [1:02:49] time was appreciated. But the [1:02:51] people keep us in check too. [1:02:55] commissioner pinder, you can't [1:02:56] do that, you can't say that, you [1:02:59] can't do that, so, we follow [1:03:00] those. And I want you to know [1:03:02] it starts with the city [1:03:03] attorney's office that's located [1:03:05] in the city hall east building [1:03:06] and it's here with our council, [1:03:08] as well. So, and I don't know [1:03:10] even if our two new [1:03:13] commissioners who I'll probably [1:03:14] may never say this again, you [1:03:17] better watch your toes because [1:03:19] these people aren't playing. [1:03:21] » nurit katz: and commissioner [1:03:22] pinder I have to say because you [1:03:24] are always so humble with your [1:03:30] own background, commissioner [1:03:35] pinder is speaking from [1:03:35] experience 30 years of service [1:03:37] in the city attorney's office [1:03:38] and 20 of those serving ladwp so [1:03:40] we're lucky to have your [1:03:42] expertises on the commission as [1:03:44] an extra set of legalized [1:03:46] everything that you bring thank [1:03:49] you for that wilma. [1:03:54] » nurit katz: you're very kind [1:03:55] next item another agency that [1:03:58] keeps us on our toes ratepayer [1:04:01] advocate item g on the agenda. [1:04:06] » tim o'connor: thank you [1:04:07] commissioner pinder. Good [1:04:09] morning and welcome commissioner [1:04:12] marks, trance, nice to see you [1:04:14] here in your first meeting after [1:04:15] having been confirmed my name is [1:04:18] tim o I'm the ratepayer advocate [1:04:19] I would like to recognize joined [1:04:21] with me today by another member [1:04:24] of my team joe coko, if you [1:04:30] might stand up a leader in our [1:04:32] office focused on daily analysis [1:04:35] customer program analysis [1:04:35] affordability joe brings a long [1:04:38] line of experience in [1:04:38] examination of these issues on [1:04:42] behalf of ratepayers he'll be [1:04:46] working with me my team upcoming [1:04:48] analysis which you will be [1:04:51] seeing as well as forward basis [1:04:54] in support of analysis on filed [1:04:55] items I would like to direct [1:04:57] your attention as well members [1:04:59] of the public to written [1:05:00] comments that we filed with the [1:05:03] commission on filed items 8, 13, [1:05:08] 16, 17, those were as well filed [1:05:09] items 7 and 8 you should have a [1:05:11] copy of our written comment [1:05:13] before you in addition opa [1:05:15] reviewed all items submitted to [1:05:16] the board via the public web [1:05:18] site and met with staff on items [1:05:20] for approval today before you on [1:05:24] 5, 6, 7, 9, 15, 18, and 23, [1:05:30] we're not providing written [1:05:31] comments on those but have [1:05:34] evaluated the information [1:05:34] associated with those as well as [1:05:36] all filed items that have been [1:05:38] submitted to the commission [1:05:39] leadership to the board. The -- [1:05:41] I would like to say that in [1:05:44] meeting with staff on all of [1:05:47] these items, I would be remiss [1:05:50] if I didn't give a level of [1:05:52] gratitude and appreciation for [1:05:54] the openness of an ongoing [1:05:57] openness of teams from the cfo's [1:05:59] office, from the power system, [1:06:02] from the water system, from the [1:06:04] administrator office, from [1:06:07] customer service that helps us [1:06:09] do our jobs of evaluating these [1:06:11] items that come before you, [1:06:15] providing analysis and comments [1:06:18] areas that we identify, maybe [1:06:20] are needed areas of improvement, [1:06:24] areas for additional analysis [1:06:25] and just additional areas for [1:06:28] consideration. [1:06:28] I will bring forward three items [1:06:31] today that I want to raise to [1:06:34] your attention. The first is [1:06:36] related to opa's broad mission. [1:06:40] we remain committed to [1:06:44] affordability, to transparency, [1:06:47] and to accountability on [1:06:49] community impact from the [1:06:51] department. And in support of [1:06:54] this, opa recently released [1:06:57] several items for public [1:07:01] evaluation in areas which are [1:07:03] relevant to the -- the board [1:07:05] today. One of those is a series [1:07:08] of public-facing materials on [1:07:10] water and power rate design, as [1:07:13] well as consumer utility bill [1:07:18] design to provide explanation to [1:07:20] the general public for how water [1:07:22] and power rates are designed and [1:07:25] how to interpret their utility [1:07:27] bills. We have received a lot [1:07:30] of comments on these. This [1:07:32] material was not present in the [1:07:33] public before, we would [1:07:36] encourage to you review that as [1:07:37] on our publicly facing website, [1:07:38] and we will be planning [1:07:42] additional information for [1:07:44] transparency and community [1:07:46] advising going forward. [1:07:48] the second area that I would [1:07:49] like to raise your attention on [1:07:52] is some upcoming listening [1:07:54] sessions that the office of [1:07:55] public accountability, the [1:07:58] ratepayer advocate, will be [1:07:59] holding in the community to [1:08:01] start to talk to individual [1:08:05] representatives of community [1:08:07] groups to impacted individuals, [1:08:14] to people that receive utility [1:08:16] bills every month to really [1:08:17] start to listen to them about [1:08:19] what it means when people [1:08:20] receive their utility bill, how [1:08:23] do they interpret affordability, [1:08:25] where is the direction of travel [1:08:26] as it relates to community [1:08:28] impact. We have three planned [1:08:30] in the upcoming weeks. One is [1:08:32] on january 28th, another is on [1:08:34] february 5th, and the final one [1:08:36] is on february 11th. These will [1:08:38] have both -- these will have [1:08:41] bilingual access, and the one on [1:08:44] january 28th will be holding at [1:08:46] the boys and girls club of the [1:08:49] san fernando valley on [1:08:51] february 5th we'll be holding at [1:08:53] first ame church, and the one on [1:08:56] february 11th we'll be holding [1:08:58] at the delores mission church. [1:09:02] I have information here both in [1:09:03] spanish and english for anybody [1:09:05] here in the audience, or [1:09:06] information can be found on our [1:09:09] web site that talks about these, [1:09:11] and we would encourage [1:09:12] participation from any members [1:09:13] of the public that would like to [1:09:14] participate. [1:09:16] one item I would like to elevate [1:09:20] from our filed comments is [1:09:22] related to item 17, which you [1:09:25] have heard comments today. And [1:09:27] this is related to the contract [1:09:31] approval for vegetation [1:09:33] management. While opa has no [1:09:37] comments on or concerns about [1:09:40] the approval of these contracts, [1:09:42] we would like to elevate two [1:09:46] items. One is from the [1:09:47] discussion we heard earlier [1:09:49] today, just to make sure that [1:09:50] the board has our points on [1:09:52] this, is that we find it [1:09:54] encouraging that there are two [1:09:57] contracts that are being offered [1:09:58] today. We have seen, in the [1:10:01] past, where there is a single [1:10:03] vendor that is responsible for [1:10:05] managing critical utility [1:10:07] services and infrastructure [1:10:08] services the opportunity to make [1:10:09] sure that there is two vendors [1:10:13] that are able to perform this [1:10:16] critical work is valuable and [1:10:19] has a value to rate payers in [1:10:21] and of itself. Second is we [1:10:24] have requested information about [1:10:25] the green waste disposal [1:10:27] practices associated with these [1:10:30] contracts. While opa doesn't [1:10:32] generally get into the minutia [1:10:34] of contracts, we do look at both [1:10:36] total cost and effectiveness and [1:10:38] city policy that may be espoused [1:10:41] within the approval of [1:10:41] individual contracts. We have [1:10:43] seen and we have requested [1:10:45] information on where the green [1:10:47] waste from these -- from these [1:10:49] contractors will be deposited. [1:10:52] the information we received is [1:10:55] that there is, at present, not a [1:10:58] memo of agreement, or [1:11:00] misdemeanor -- memo of [1:11:06] understanding between the [1:11:07] department and other city [1:11:08] services such as sanitation to [1:11:10] use city facilities for the [1:11:12] disposal of this green waste. [1:11:14] that has required the [1:11:17] development of an improvised [1:11:19] process which we have not [1:11:20] received information on and we [1:11:22] would respectfully recommend [1:11:23] that the board ask this question [1:11:26] either in contract review period [1:11:29] or contemporaneous with the [1:11:29] approval to make sure that the [1:11:31] department's contractors are [1:11:34] fulfilling in the spirit of the [1:11:37] sb1383 law which focuses on [1:11:39] deposition of green waste in [1:11:41] composting facilities. We have [1:11:43] seen many different ads, [1:11:45] facebook posts, and others where [1:11:46] people are getting green waste [1:11:54] bins delivered to their houses [1:11:59] by the dozens and we want to [1:12:01] make sure that the department [1:12:02] and its contractors when you [1:12:04] have such large amount of green [1:12:06] waste is also fulfilling those [1:12:08] obligations I would also like to [1:12:10] call your attention to filed [1:12:11] items 7, 8, and 9, these are in [1:12:16] the report -- [1:12:18] » com. Wilma pinder: let's stop [1:12:19] one moment with the green waste [1:12:22] is there anyone that falls under [1:12:25] their department or -- [1:12:27] » nurit katz: I want to address [1:12:28] that I will now say as a board [1:12:32] member to the department to [1:12:33] please follow up on that power [1:12:35] system however I would note that [1:12:36] there is complexity around the [1:12:39] disposal of green waste I know [1:12:40] from dealing with other issues [1:12:42] with sanitation and fire [1:12:44] clearance that there are certain [1:12:46] trees palm trees that cannot go [1:12:48] to our compost facilities so [1:12:50] there is a bit of complexity [1:12:52] there and I would encourage the [1:12:53] department to work closely with [1:12:55] la sanitation to ensure that our [1:12:58] waste disposal is meeting city [1:12:59] policy requirements but also not [1:13:03] impeding these areas impacted [1:13:05] facilities that are dealing with [1:13:07] a lot of increased green waste [1:13:10] from residential and other areas [1:13:12] so it will require important [1:13:13] department to department [1:13:14] coordination so please work with [1:13:15] la sanitation and then report [1:13:17] back to us on that. [1:13:21] » speaker: yes. [1:13:25] » com. Wilma pinder: this it's [1:13:27] important green waste mort what [1:13:29] senate bill was that? [1:13:31] » tim o'connor: sb1383 which is [1:13:33] a bill that focuses on climate [1:13:35] change to reduce emissions [1:13:37] associated with the [1:13:38] decomposition of waste which [1:13:39] sets new standards for municipal [1:13:45] government to handle. [1:13:48] » com. Wilma pinder: assuming [1:13:49] it's not too thick would you [1:13:51] make sure we get that language [1:13:53] for ourselves that the [1:13:55] commission gets that particular [1:13:55] language I'm sure the department [1:13:57] is well aware we just have not [1:13:59] received the information in time [1:14:00] that was allotted to provide [1:14:03] analysis before the board today. [1:14:12] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [1:14:12] very much for that. [1:14:14] » tim o'connor: final item [1:14:15] elevates items 7, 8, and 9 [1:14:19] reports sections that have been [1:14:21] item k that have been [1:14:23] distributed we provided written [1:14:25] comments on an observation [1:14:27] associated with the renewable [1:14:28] portfolio standard and clean [1:14:28] energy resources planning [1:14:30] monthly documents from july to [1:14:32] october we have to call [1:14:34] attention to the board that [1:14:35] while the department is doing [1:14:37] fantastic work to continue to [1:14:38] increase the amount of clean [1:14:39] energy resources, the renewable [1:14:41] energy that's coming to the [1:14:44] system in support of the la 100 [1:14:46] power system plan improving and [1:14:48] managing towards safe reliable, [1:14:50] affordable, and clean energy, [1:14:51] there is an item there that [1:14:54] which continues to track as [1:14:56] underperformance and that's in [1:14:57] the transportation [1:14:58] electrification track. We know [1:14:59] the department is doing a lot in [1:15:01] this area. We have yet to see [1:15:03] an e the v or a transportation [1:15:11] electrification integrated [1:15:14] strategy for for the department [1:15:15] we believe that this is an area [1:15:18] where the department really [1:15:19] needs to integrate [1:15:21] transportation electrification [1:15:22] throughout the power system [1:15:23] priorities we understand they [1:15:24] are but recommend that the board [1:15:26] either request a formal strategy [1:15:28] or briefing on the strategies [1:15:29] for meeting those long-term [1:15:31] deadlines on electrification of [1:15:32] transportation. We haven't [1:15:34] really seen a robust [1:15:35] conversation in the public on [1:15:36] this yet. [1:15:39] finally, on item number nine, we [1:15:42] have reported on filed items. [1:15:45] we have reported in the past [1:15:47] that we have evaluated the [1:15:50] elysian reservoir community [1:15:51] parks enhancement fund because [1:15:53] commissioner marks, commissioner [1:15:55] tran, you're new, just a brief [1:15:57] recap, this is roughly a [1:15:59] ten-year old, maybe even longer, [1:16:03] grant process, and we do see a [1:16:05] line of site to concluding this [1:16:08] work, and we reviewed the [1:16:09] report, I believe in the next 2, [1:16:11] to three years, the funding will [1:16:13] be used up by the completion of [1:16:15] projects, so we're encouraged, [1:16:16] of course, by that. If you were [1:16:18] to look back at this funds, you [1:16:20] would see that it's a very long [1:16:23] process. I don't think grants [1:16:24] normally sit out there for a [1:16:26] decade or more, and we would [1:16:28] encourage, of course, the [1:16:29] department to continue to work [1:16:31] to make sure that this grant [1:16:33] enhancement fund is either [1:16:35] concluded or that there is a [1:16:37] review to make sure that the [1:16:38] department gets the money back. [1:16:41] and with that, I'll close my [1:16:43] comments and open up for any [1:16:45] discussion across the dais. [1:16:47] » com. Wilma pinder: any [1:16:49] commissioner have a sponsor a [1:16:52] comment? Or are your hand [1:16:55] stinging from -- [1:16:56] [laughter] [1:16:57] » nurit katz: I mean, I would [1:16:59] just thank you, as always, for [1:17:01] your insightful comments and [1:17:02] analysis, and I agree on the [1:17:05] need for digging into further [1:17:06] into the electrification and [1:17:07] vehicle electrification. I know [1:17:08] that the department is working [1:17:09] on a number of important [1:17:11] initiatives there, including ev [1:17:13] hubs that will serve areas where [1:17:14] people do not have private [1:17:16] charging, and so, we'll work [1:17:17] with the department on the [1:17:17] timing, but I do think a report [1:17:19] to the board on that topic would [1:17:22] be warranted at a later date, [1:17:24] and I'll -- we'll discuss that [1:17:26] with the staff. Thank you. [1:17:28] » tim o'connor: thank you. [1:17:29] » com. Wilma pinder: all right. [1:17:30] now the parts that I really need [1:17:33] the commission's secretary to [1:17:36] help me get through as we're [1:17:39] moving on to voluminous things [1:17:51] that we have read ourselves as [1:17:53] individually as commissioners we [1:17:55] do this before every meeting [1:17:57] sometime over the several day [1:17:59] period some of us come in extra [1:18:01] early on the board day if we [1:18:02] haven't gotten through [1:18:04] everything to read because when [1:18:06] we vote we're trying to vote [1:18:08] with knowledge and we can't [1:18:09] discuss it with each other [1:18:11] before we can actually come out [1:18:13] here with you, we're not [1:18:16] discussing what we're reading as [1:18:19] a group we would be again this [1:18:22] brown act but what we each have [1:18:25] done in these things sometime we [1:18:27] may have even conferred with [1:18:29] another engineer or something we [1:18:31] can ask questions we're not [1:18:33] bound we're not bound that we [1:18:34] cooperate say hey I'm in the [1:18:36] middle of reading this [1:18:37] particular contract we could ask [1:18:39] right then and there but it's [1:18:41] obviously easier for us to ask [1:18:42] in here so that often you will [1:18:44] hear that we pull something and [1:18:46] we say I want to hear more on [1:18:47] that doesn't mean we have to [1:18:49] hear it right now we might want [1:18:51] to hear it next time but there [1:18:53] is some things that we have read [1:18:54] and we feel that as a group we [1:18:56] can simply vote on those because [1:19:00] we feel we have the knowledge to [1:19:01] do that. So with that in mind, [1:19:03] there are things that I'm going [1:19:04] to ask the commissioners, can we [1:19:08] get a, when I say "block vote" [1:19:13] that means that you have read [1:19:14] it, that you feel that you are [1:19:17] ready to approve that particular [1:19:18] matter, and then there are some [1:19:20] that you may.more information [1:19:23] on, that have to be, [1:19:25] quote "pulled." that's the [1:19:27] point we're at now, you hear us [1:19:29] flipping around through our [1:19:31] papers. [1:19:33] » board secretary, chante [1:19:33] mitchell: would you like -- [1:19:34] » com. Wilma pinder: miss [1:19:36] secretary please assist me with [1:19:37] the pulled items and the ones [1:19:38] that I'm going to call for our [1:19:41] group f they can block vote? I [1:19:43] know there are a couple of [1:19:45] things that we do have to set [1:19:48] aside, for example, I will be [1:19:52] recusing myself on 013 on that [1:19:58] matter. And at that time, I [1:19:59] would ask commissioner katz [1:20:01] would she stand in when that [1:20:02] voting is taken care of. I [1:20:04] believe one of the commissioners [1:20:06] had an issue or wanted more [1:20:09] information or discussion with [1:20:14] 08, and with 06? [1:20:16] » board secretary, chante [1:20:16] mitchell: no, as previously [1:20:18] discussed item 06 will be pulled [1:20:21] or called special per [1:20:24] commissioner tran. Item 07, I [1:20:26] believe was called special by [1:20:28] commissioner tran, and 013, you [1:20:30] will recuse -- is it 08? -- [1:20:36] correction 08, as opposed to 07, [1:20:39] and 013, and commissioner tran [1:20:41] has a question on as well as the [1:20:44] recusal of commissioner pinder. [1:20:47] » com. Wilma pinder: okay. [1:20:48] » nurit katz: would you like me [1:20:50] to make a motion then? [1:20:52] » com. Wilma pinder: yes may I [1:20:54] have then a motion as to all [1:20:56] items that have not been [1:21:00] identified as pulled or [1:21:05] retrieved? [1:21:06] » nurit katz: thank you. So [1:21:07] motion approve items 12, 3, 4, [1:21:15] 5, 7, 9 through 12, 14 through [1:21:18] 23. [1:21:19] » speaker: I seconds. [1:21:20] » com. Wilma pinder: moved and [1:21:22] second. May I have call for [1:21:25] final vote. [1:21:25] » board secretary, chante [1:21:26] mitchell: katz? [1:21:27] » nurit katz: aye. [1:21:27] » board secretary, chante [1:21:28] mitchell: marks? [1:21:30] » allan t. Marks: aye. [1:21:30] » board secretary, chante [1:21:31] mitchell: pinder? [1:21:33] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [1:21:34] » board secretary, chante [1:21:34] mitchell: tran? [1:21:35] » benny b. Tran: aye. [1:21:36] » board secretary, chante [1:21:36] mitchell: four ayes motion [1:21:38] adopted. [1:21:38] » com. Wilma pinder: all right [1:21:39] since there is only one matter [1:21:43] that has to have the recusal [1:21:46] it's me I would propose that I [1:21:48] stech out now because then I [1:21:49] want to be back for the other [1:21:51] two. [1:21:51] » nurit katz: thank you. All [1:21:52] right I believe you said [1:21:54] commissioner tran did you have [1:21:55] questions about this item as [1:21:58] well? Did you a presentation or [1:22:01] just you had questions? [1:22:04] » speaker: this is the same one [1:22:07] yeah thank you. [1:22:09] » benny b. Tran: just a quick [1:22:10] question on the report I think [1:22:11] it's critically important that [1:22:12] we did modernize -- are we good? [1:22:17] » nurit katz: let everyone [1:22:17] clear the room for a moment so [1:22:20] we can hear you. Okay. Who is [1:22:23] the right staff member to answer [1:22:24] questions on item 13? Do we [1:22:26] have someone here who can come [1:22:29] forward? Come on up. Thanks. [1:22:35] okay. If we could close the [1:22:36] doors in the back and avoid some [1:22:38] noise? And commissioner tran if [1:22:39] you could repeat your question [1:22:42] please. [1:22:42] » benny b. Tran: thank you. [1:22:42] just a quick question on this [1:22:44] item. Like, as commissioner [1:22:47] marks said, drinking from a [1:22:51] firehose, it's become very [1:22:52] apparent that modernization of [1:22:54] our systems to serve our [1:22:56] customers to increase our [1:22:59] resources to serve, to preserve, [1:23:05] for citizens to keep this [1:23:07] utility running it's critically [1:23:10] important the system is [1:23:11] something that we're just [1:23:13] reaching the standards of other [1:23:16] utilities it also would be [1:23:17] better than those utilities in [1:23:19] the future just a quick question [1:23:20] on this, it's a three year [1:23:23] contract for my own education in [1:23:27] terms of possibly how things [1:23:28] work here how you approach this [1:23:32] contract why only three years [1:23:33] we're looking to in terms of [1:23:35] timeline and implementing [1:23:38] systems and three years after [1:23:39] we're going to renew this [1:23:40] contract or how is that going to [1:23:42] be set up? [1:23:43] » speaker: thank you for the [1:23:44] question let me introduce myself [1:23:47] my name is andrew header an [1:23:49] assistant director of [1:23:50] information are systems with our [1:23:52] information technology service [1:23:53] division my group handles [1:23:55] contract administrations over [1:23:57] these oracle licenses and [1:23:59] subscriptions, but I believe [1:24:00] your question seems to have a [1:24:02] flavor about our automated or [1:24:04] advanced metering [1:24:05] infrastructure, but generally [1:24:06] it's regarding why it's only [1:24:08] three years. So, as our [1:24:11] previous contract expired, we [1:24:14] were doing individual purchases [1:24:16] directly with oracle, which [1:24:18] weren't efficient, take a lot of [1:24:20] internal administrative time to [1:24:22] actually process, so, we were [1:24:25] looking to do something in the [1:24:27] competitive arena. But one of [1:24:29] the option that is the city [1:24:30] charter and admin code allow us [1:24:32] to do is to do what is known as [1:24:36] a "cooperative purchasing [1:24:39] agreement" or in lay man's [1:24:42] terms, they call it [1:24:43] a "piggyback" as we look at the [1:24:47] landscape of other governmental [1:24:49] entities that had engaged in [1:24:52] contract with the oracle [1:24:53] resellers we found that the city [1:24:56] of los angeles, our sister [1:24:57] agency of course, had entered [1:25:00] into a cooperative purchasing [1:25:02] agreement with maricopa county [1:25:04] with mythics as the oracle [1:25:09] reseller. Of course, arizona [1:25:11] had done a competitive process [1:25:14] the city reviewed that [1:25:15] competition so we're basically [1:25:17] piggybacking off of those [1:25:19] competitive processes so this [1:25:20] should be interpreted as a [1:25:22] competitive process in any way [1:25:25] because we're just kind of [1:25:28] borrowing the competition done [1:25:30] by others but the reason it's a [1:25:32] three years is because that's [1:25:34] when the current contract that [1:25:37] maricopa county has expires but [1:25:38] I think it leads to a broader [1:25:40] question you know what's next. [1:25:42] what we're going to do next what [1:25:44] we would like to do during this [1:25:46] three year period is take a look [1:25:48] at partnering with the city of [1:25:50] los angeles, as well as other [1:25:55] proprietary agencies, los [1:26:00] angeles world airports part of [1:26:01] los angeles u.s. Of course being [1:26:02] water and power to see if we can [1:26:05] come together as an entire city [1:26:07] of los angeles family and [1:26:08] negotiate something you know [1:26:10] this is an arena we second [1:26:13] potentially do another [1:26:15] cooperative purchasing agreement [1:26:15] or go out and do a competitive [1:26:18] process on our own but as a city [1:26:20] family kind of joining our needs [1:26:22] together and getting prices that [1:26:23] come from having that volume. [1:26:26] tan tran thank you. Just a [1:26:29] quick question from a city [1:26:30] prosstandpoint if we were to [1:26:32] engage in the new rfp within [1:26:35] three years estimated timeline [1:26:38] for us to go through process bid [1:26:41] out and award? [1:26:42] » speaker: we would called [1:26:48] purchasing side invitation for [1:26:51] bid because it really boils down [1:26:54] to just price it's not heavy [1:26:56] footprint on capability because [1:26:59] resellers at the end of the day [1:27:02] are offering what in effect is a [1:27:05] material to us so it would be [1:27:08] invitation for bid process that [1:27:10] would do that process to take [1:27:11] probably 6 to 9 months part of [1:27:14] the difficulty for us this time [1:27:17] around while beneficial for us [1:27:17] to piggyback off of what the [1:27:19] city has done actually preparing [1:27:21] the arthease facts to go out [1:27:24] with invitation for bid actually [1:27:26] does require a lot of expertise [1:27:27] in the area of nuances of oracle [1:27:31] listening and while we learned a [1:27:32] lot in partnering with the city [1:27:33] and understanding what maricopa [1:27:35] county did we also are going to [1:27:38] need time internally to build [1:27:40] that expertise as how to prepare [1:27:43] you know in your terms your [1:27:44] conditions as well as what [1:27:45] you're looking for so as we work [1:27:47] with mythics over the next three [1:27:49] years we anticipate getting a [1:27:51] lot of that subject matter [1:27:53] knowledge so that if we decide [1:27:55] as an entity and partnering [1:27:58] hopefully this broader city [1:27:59] family we learned what it means [1:28:01] to actually prepare those [1:28:03] purchasing artifacts that in a [1:28:05] way speaks from authority, [1:28:06] speaks from experience so we [1:28:08] know what lessons do we need to [1:28:11] learn. We can certainly [1:28:13] leverage assistance from the [1:28:14] ratepayer advocate other ands to [1:28:15] help us kind of work through, [1:28:17] you know, those aspects, but we [1:28:19] expect to have that subject [1:28:22] matter expertise at that time. [1:28:24] » benny b. Tran: great. Thank [1:28:25] you. That's all I have. [1:28:26] » nurit katz: all right. Thank [1:28:27] you. Could I have a motion to [1:28:32] approve? [1:28:33] » speaker: I so move. [1:28:34] » speaker: second. [1:28:35] » nurit katz: excellent. You [1:28:36] can take the vote please shante? [1:28:40] » board secretary, chante [1:28:41] mitchell: katz? [1:28:42] » nurit katz: aye. [1:28:43] » board secretary, chante [1:28:44] mitchell: marks? [1:28:45] » allan t. Marks: aye. [1:28:45] » board secretary, chante [1:28:46] mitchell: commissioner tran? [1:28:48] » benny b. Tran: aye. [1:28:48] » board secretary, chante [1:28:49] mitchell: three ayes. Motion [1:28:52] adopted. [1:28:52] » nurit katz: thank you. [1:29:14] -- [1:29:18] [off-mic indiscernible] [1:29:22] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [1:29:24] so, the next item for our [1:29:27] discussion will be number six [1:29:33] then followed by eight. [1:29:34] commissioner -- [1:29:35] » speaker: item six we have [1:29:38] david jacobs who is the [1:29:41] executive director of the [1:29:42] distributed energy solutions to [1:29:43] present. [1:29:46] > [1:29:51] » speaker: good morning [1:29:53] commissioners my name is sam, [1:29:54] I'm the interim manager of der [1:29:56] programs and projects. The I'm [1:30:01] joined today by mr. David jaco [1:30:05] executive director and stephanie [1:30:08] macarito supervisor of the group [1:30:11] that's manage these two [1:30:13] ordinances. Happy to present [1:30:15] first take questions later? [1:30:16] » com. Wilma pinder: whatever [1:30:17] the commission prefers. [1:30:19] » benny b. Tran: happy to just [1:30:20] jump into questions right now. [1:30:22] you can give background [1:30:23] information of the origin of [1:30:26] this project? What kind of [1:30:27] impact it potentially has as a [1:30:30] pilot project? How it could [1:30:32] scale then lastly timelines of [1:30:35] awarding implementation to until [1:30:37] it comes online? [1:30:37] » speaker: yeah. Can I get it [1:30:39] started and others can join to [1:30:41] add some color. So, this is for [1:30:44] the encino reservoir floating [1:30:49] solar project we have worked [1:30:50] closely with our system planning [1:30:52] and identified projects that [1:30:54] could help support their la 100 [1:30:55] plan as it pertains to procuring [1:31:02] 100% renewable resources by [1:31:02] 2035. To that extent we have [1:31:03] been hard at work identifying [1:31:05] where we can deploy local solar [1:31:07] energy storage and ev chargers. [1:31:10] so, that came in a few different [1:31:13] colors. Some of them were [1:31:16] locally installed carport [1:31:18] systems, rooftop systems, and [1:31:20] then the idea came up of a [1:31:22] floating solar project which has [1:31:24] been done in many countries, [1:31:26] including some areas here in [1:31:29] california. I think the sonoma [1:31:31] district. So, we worked with [1:31:32] the power system to come up with [1:31:35] some potential candidates, and [1:31:37] the encino reservoir was our top [1:31:42] candidate because the water is [1:31:43] not drinkable, and to our [1:31:45] understanding, they use this -- [1:31:47] they use it for emergency [1:31:49] response. So, we worked very [1:31:50] closely with la five, as well, [1:31:55] right? Last year, as we recall, [1:31:58] they used the super scoopers to [1:32:00] gather water for fire response, [1:32:02] so we're very tightly [1:32:05] coordinated with them, and they [1:32:07] have all given us approval that [1:32:09] this won't affect their [1:32:11] operations. So, that gives you [1:32:13] a high-level overview. And you [1:32:17] mentioned something about the [1:32:18] timeline. If this ordinance [1:32:19] goes through -- and I should [1:32:21] mention, this is just an [1:32:22] ordinance, this is -- we won't [1:32:25] be approving the contract today, [1:32:27] so no dollars will be spent [1:32:29] today, this will only allow us [1:32:31] to issue an rfp in order to [1:32:34] procure the service, and if that [1:32:35] happens we think it will take [1:32:36] anywhere from 4 to 8 months to [1:32:40] fully install once outside labor [1:32:41] is contracted and the project [1:32:45] begins. Last thing I'll mention [1:32:47] is ■we work closely with the [1:32:48] local encino community to get [1:32:50] feedback and to present our [1:32:54] solution. [1:32:55] » benny b. Tran: and then [1:32:56] before awarding, the rfp will [1:32:58] take how long, do you think? [1:33:01] » speaker: so, we have been [1:33:04] working on the rfp materials in [1:33:05] the interim. Once we start [1:33:06] working with supply chain [1:33:08] services, we hope it will be [1:33:10] fully awarded in 6 to 8 months. [1:33:17] » benny b. Tran: great. Thank [1:33:19] you. [1:33:19] » com. Wilma pinder: is date, [1:33:21] originally you had the language [1:33:22] in here carbon neutral mandate [1:33:26] is 2030, and then I heard you [1:33:29] mention 2035. Are these dates [1:33:33] even still realistic? [1:33:35] » speaker: I mean we're working [1:33:37] towards meeting the dates, 2035 [1:33:40] -- [1:33:40] » com. Wilma pinder: realistic? [1:33:44] [laughter] [1:33:44] » speaker: I think mr. Hanson [1:33:46] can better answer that question. [1:33:47] I think based on what we have [1:33:49] been asked to do as a group that [1:33:51] is to produce local solar in the [1:33:53] amount of over 200 megawatts we [1:33:56] can do it with the two ordinance [1:33:59] that we have before you today we [1:34:00] can do our job to meet those [1:34:02] mandates but as an overall [1:34:04] planning system, I can't answer [1:34:06] that. [1:34:06] » speaker: I have a question. [1:34:08] » com. Wilma pinder: a [1:34:08] question? [1:34:09] » speaker: thank you very much. [1:34:09] I have a question on the rfp [1:34:12] scope. The epc part I [1:34:14] understand, there is reference [1:34:15] to maintenance, and then also to [1:34:19] training dwp personnel in order [1:34:22] for us to maintain both the [1:34:24] floating solar facilities and [1:34:27] then the best. Are you [1:34:33] contemplating longer term [1:34:34] maintenance contract with the [1:34:36] same supplier under epc contract [1:34:39] or where is that cross over [1:34:42] between end of construction [1:34:43] commissioning extended service [1:34:44] or maintenance or warranty [1:34:46] contracts and long-term o&m? [1:34:49] which could be done internally I [1:34:51] assume, right? [1:34:52] » speaker: I'll get started [1:34:54] then maybe stephanie grant may [1:34:56] add color. I believe we're [1:34:58] currently contemplating five [1:35:00] years of maintenance and the [1:35:02] purposes of that is our crews [1:35:03] really don't have the experience [1:35:05] maintaining a system like this, [1:35:07] right? So we want them to not [1:35:09] only mental health it for five [1:35:11] years but also show us how to [1:35:13] maintain it and if they end up [1:35:16] needing to procure the battery [1:35:17] part of this then that will fall [1:35:19] into the scope as well again the [1:35:21] whole intention we have worked [1:35:23] with our local ibw local 18 that [1:35:26] our crews will be able to [1:35:28] maintain the system going [1:35:29] forward after the five years it [1:35:30] will be passed on to them. [1:35:34] anything else? [1:35:35] » speaker: thank you I think [1:35:36] you summarized it the [1:35:39] maintenance of this is nation [1:35:41] specific being that this is on [1:35:43] floating island getting our [1:35:44] staff and making sure that we [1:35:46] focus who are qualified to do [1:35:49] you know training period to do [1:35:51] that as well. [1:35:52] » speaker: is there flexibility [1:35:55] contemplating the rfp as you [1:35:58] know best location and that [1:35:59] interface are you looking for [1:36:00] the potential bidders to provide [1:36:03] creatity or is it going to be [1:36:06] prescriptive? [1:36:06] » speaker: we have the site [1:36:08] mapped out in the presentation [1:36:09] if you would like to see that we [1:36:12] show the differentiateiation [1:36:15] between where the firefighters [1:36:17] access and reservoir for dipping [1:36:19] where the floating solar panels [1:36:22] would be that's fairly coated [1:36:25] and fairly hard coated so [1:36:27] specifically because of the need [1:36:29] for reservoir to remain fully [1:36:32] available for firefighting at [1:36:33] all times are quite a distance [1:36:35] from each other within the [1:36:37] reservoir and fire department is [1:36:38] assured that they don't have [1:36:41] concerns about the location. [1:36:44] » nurit katz: if I remember [1:36:44] correctly about 10% of the [1:36:47] reservoir surface area is tucked [1:36:51] in an inlet that would not be [1:36:54] suitable for super scoopers? [1:36:58] » tim o'connor: may I offer [1:37:00] a comment thank you having met [1:37:02] with the team at the department [1:37:04] received this presentation and [1:37:06] identified one area when you [1:37:07] think about floating solar there [1:37:08] is a lot of benefits that can [1:37:10] occur such as improved [1:37:13] efficiency of panels themselves [1:37:14] because of cooling that's [1:37:18] associated with the underlying [1:37:19] water calling us a pilot is also [1:37:21] important whereas you know the [1:37:24] 54 tends future projects [1:37:25] commissioner tran you talked [1:37:26] about scale I would suggest that [1:37:28] there are many different sites [1:37:30] across the region are suitable [1:37:31] for local solar and some of [1:37:33] those will probably be coming [1:37:35] before the board soon and [1:37:36] they're going to have different [1:37:38] cost profiles I would only ask [1:37:40] the team to talk about the cost [1:37:41] profile of this type of project [1:37:43] compared to other types of [1:37:44] projects because of course we [1:37:47] see in very significant projects [1:37:49] the change in tax credits and [1:37:51] tariffs it's changing the [1:37:53] cost profile and would just ask [1:37:57] if the team could talk briefly [1:37:59] about the price per kilowatt or [1:38:02] what you would expect rate [1:38:04] payers would experience in terms [1:38:06] of competitiveness and this type [1:38:10] of energy versus others. [1:38:12] » speaker: high-level I'll turn [1:38:13] it over to the team here so loss [1:38:16] of tax credits impact the [1:38:18] projects whether they're [1:38:19] floating solar or ground mount [1:38:21] or roof mount in any case the [1:38:23] storage is the same so that's [1:38:26] pretty much a wash between [1:38:28] installation type set ups now [1:38:30] specific to this project we run [1:38:33] analysis to estimate the 24 [1:38:35] million or so we're pricing out. [1:38:38] » speaker: the 24 million or so [1:38:41] that covers not only solar but [1:38:44] also energy storage and the [1:38:45] small ground mount system that's [1:38:47] nearby. I don't know the exact [1:38:49] there per kilowatt for the [1:38:50] floating solar piece but when we [1:38:52] did the analysis, the team [1:38:54] reported to me that it was [1:38:57] comparable to a carport solar [1:38:58] system which we have all over [1:39:00] the city. [1:39:02] » speaker: and also mention [1:39:03] this is, again, we don't have [1:39:05] any bids yet, this is to get [1:39:07] approval from the city council [1:39:08] to issue a 10-year rfp so that's [1:39:12] where we'll get specifics in [1:39:13] terms of multiple bids with [1:39:14] these components and the labor [1:39:16] priced out specifically. So [1:39:18] it's pretty ballpark at this [1:39:21] point. [1:39:21] » tim o'connor: yes, thank you. [1:39:23] just, in closing, would suggest [1:39:27] that we have an all of the above [1:39:29] strategy in terms of finding [1:39:31] opportunities for new emissions [1:39:33] free generation, load balancing, [1:39:35] things that can reduce the need [1:39:38] for plants like the scattergood [1:39:40] natural gas generating facility [1:39:41] and these types of projects we [1:39:44] see being both in the ratepayer [1:39:47] best interest, but in the [1:39:49] ability of the department to [1:39:50] move forward to accommodate [1:39:52] increased load growth as we [1:39:56] suggest in coming years. [1:39:58] » speaker: if I could add to [1:40:00] mr. O'connor's comment, us being [1:40:05] dwp joint departments of water [1:40:06] and for this is one of those [1:40:09] unique projects where we have [1:40:11] opportunity to leverage [1:40:13] reservoirs especially [1:40:14] non-potable areas so this is the [1:40:17] 50 pilot project that's unique [1:40:18] but also when we're looking at [1:40:19] facilities within the city of la [1:40:21] and local how do we impact our [1:40:23] local grid this is an important [1:40:25] project where we can deploy this [1:40:27] much faster than traditional [1:40:30] solar rooftop carport grounds [1:40:33] mount so when looking at cost [1:40:37] comparisons and having almost [1:40:38] identical or less cost compared [1:40:40] to when we can do at other [1:40:42] facilities but in a much faster [1:40:44] deployment I just would like to [1:40:46] say that piece so that's taken [1:40:48] into consideration as well. [1:40:49] » nurit katz: thank you. And I [1:40:50] think given the urgency of our [1:40:52] targets and scope of what we [1:40:53] have ahead of us that speed [1:40:55] matters. So this is an exciting [1:40:57] project. I just want to call [1:40:58] your attention and I'll sends [1:40:59] you an e-mail with a link but [1:41:01] there was a recent peer reviewed [1:41:03] study that modeled floating [1:41:05] solar in terms of potential [1:41:06] environmental impact, which of [1:41:07] course is also very important to [1:41:09] the department, and they did [1:41:14] find significant differential, [1:41:15] in turn, that's related to the [1:41:17] amount of coverage, so I want to [1:41:18] make sure that study is [1:41:20] informative as we're thinking [1:41:21] about balancing all of these [1:41:22] things in planning these [1:41:25] projects, of course fire use of [1:41:29] reservoirs but also important [1:41:31] environmental impact so I'll [1:41:32] senilities the study along and [1:41:34] really looking forward to the [1:41:35] outcome of this pilot. [1:41:37] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [1:41:38] for adding that you really stay [1:41:39] up on this and I know the [1:41:41] department appreciates it very [1:41:44] much. Is there any other [1:41:46] questions with this or otherwise [1:41:47] I'll call for a vote on it. [1:41:50] » speaker: I move that we [1:41:52] approve this item. [1:41:55] » nurit katz: second. [1:41:56] » com. Wilma pinder: item six. [1:41:56] » board secretary, chante [1:41:57] mitchell: may I call the roll [1:41:58] please? Commissioner katz? [1:42:00] » nurit katz: aye. [1:42:00] » board secretary, chante [1:42:01] mitchell: marks? [1:42:02] » allan t. Marks: [1:42:03] » board secretary, chante [1:42:03] mitchell: pinder? [1:42:04] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [1:42:04] » board secretary, chante [1:42:05] mitchell: tran? [1:42:06] » benny b. Tran: aye. [1:42:07] » board secretary, chante [1:42:07] mitchell: motion adopted. [1:42:08] » com. Wilma pinder: and I [1:42:09] thank you commissioner tran on [1:42:11] your very first day, that proves [1:42:13] that people are reading these [1:42:14] things before we come out here. [1:42:17] and we appreciate you digging [1:42:19] in. And I particularly [1:42:20] appreciate the ratepayer [1:42:21] advocate who, obviously, has [1:42:24] gone and dug in even further and [1:42:27] able to call for that additional [1:42:29] information being on the record. [1:42:30] thank you very much, both of [1:42:31] you. Now, there is also moving [1:42:34] on then, to number eight. No. [1:42:37] you're still -- [1:42:38] » speaker: this will be the [1:42:40] same group responding to number [1:42:41] eight. [1:42:41] » com. Wilma pinder: I thawed [1:42:42] we were rid of them. [1:42:44] [laughter] [1:42:44] same group. Number eight. [1:42:47] yeah, they were too charming and [1:42:48] too good. I thought we had [1:42:50] someone else to beat up on. All [1:42:53] right. Number eight, please. [1:42:55] » benny b. Tran: just same in [1:42:56] terms of questions for now. [1:42:58] this general item, are there [1:43:00] currently projects in mind that [1:43:02] you will be pursuing under this [1:43:07] ordinance, is my first question. [1:43:08] I have a second question. [1:43:09] » speaker: so, we have a lot of [1:43:11] flexibility with this. A few [1:43:14] years back we approved three [1:43:17] mou's with our sister [1:43:19] departments, the department of [1:43:21] gsd, general services [1:43:23] department, and la recreation [1:43:24] and parks those three [1:43:25] departments and with those mou's [1:43:27] really opened the door for us to [1:43:29] install got only on our own [1:43:31] facilities, but their [1:43:34] facilities, and the projects [1:43:36] will be front of the meter, and [1:43:38] they allow us to install energy [1:43:40] storage, solar, and ev chargers [1:43:42] on their properties. So, do we [1:43:44] have anything in mind? Not [1:43:46] particularly. We're still [1:43:48] evaluating how many of the [1:43:50] facilities we'll install the [1:43:52] der's on, and to what scale. [1:43:55] but we think in the ordinance we [1:43:57] requested, I think it was 500 [1:44:00] commercial level facilities, and [1:44:02] these mou's unclocked over a [1:44:04] thousand facilities that we can [1:44:05] choose from. So we're really [1:44:07] going to pick the best ones, the [1:44:09] ones that have the most rooftop [1:44:12] area, the ones with the most [1:44:14] adequate roofing, biggest [1:44:16] parking lots, et cetera. [1:44:17] » speaker: and just to add to [1:44:20] what was mentioned, it's over [1:44:22] 1500 sites that these mou's [1:44:25] unlock that we can tap into for [1:44:27] cooling centers first responder [1:44:30] to build micro grid systems to [1:44:32] make our city more resilient. [1:44:34] and with those 1500, we actually [1:44:36] have done a preliminary. So, we [1:44:38] have ruled out, you know, there [1:44:41] are so many that we rank as good [1:44:44] site versus maybe a b site that [1:44:47] needs a bit more work before we [1:44:49] can get to t so we don't have [1:44:52] every single ranked out because [1:44:55] that's something that we're [1:44:56] looking to accomplish with this [1:44:58] rfp but we have done preliminary [1:45:00] koreanings. [1:45:01] » speaker: I think I know what [1:45:03] you're getting at. Identifying [1:45:04] those facilities is going to [1:45:06] take a long time the way this [1:45:08] we're writing the rfp is such a [1:45:11] way that there is bank of [1:45:13] vendors who are approved and [1:45:15] when we're thinking is issuing a [1:45:18] handsful of projects at a time [1:45:21] getting the best bid, 50 [1:45:23] identifying then issuing it and [1:45:25] sees where project costs are [1:45:27] most efficient so I think that [1:45:30] will shorten the timeline a lot. [1:45:33] » allan t. Marks: may I follow [1:45:34] up with a question on that? [1:45:37] » com. Wilma pinder: sure. [1:45:39] » allan t. Marks: there is [1:45:41] tradeoff between flexibility [1:45:42] doing lots of little ones with [1:45:43] approved bank of vendors and [1:45:46] economies of scale? They can't [1:45:48] do them all at once how are you [1:45:52] addressing that? [1:45:53] » speaker: based on research [1:45:54] issuing 100 facilities is [1:45:57] typically too much for them to [1:45:58] bite off at once we're trying to [1:46:01] find the sweet spot we're [1:46:03] working with vendor to find a [1:46:06] sweet spot we think it will be [1:46:08] anywhere between 5 and 10 [1:46:10] facilities at a time they also [1:46:12] need projects to be bankable [1:46:15] that means procure materials [1:46:17] ahead of time in bulk so their [1:46:19] economies of scale go down. [1:46:22] » speaker: we have some really [1:46:24] good lessonings learned from [1:46:25] having done one of these [1:46:27] projects internally ourselves [1:46:29] green meadow which stephanie [1:46:31] here has personally led so we're [1:46:34] incorporating lessons learned [1:46:35] from that project green meadows [1:46:36] in south la it's solar storage [1:46:39] ev chargers and lots of [1:46:42] complexities with that micro [1:46:44] grid I believe and so those [1:46:45] lessons learned feed into and [1:46:48] will be managing issuing [1:46:49] managing this much larger [1:46:52] initiative. [1:46:52] » allan t. Marks: I think this [1:46:54] is a terrific idea I did have [1:46:56] one other related question. [1:46:59] » speaker: also related to cost [1:47:01] we're going to be having a bench [1:47:03] this is going to be up to [1:47:06] possibly four vendors so every [1:47:07] single project that we do for [1:47:09] these kinds of community [1:47:11] resiliency projects will be bid [1:47:12] against these vendors. So it [1:47:15] maintains that cost [1:47:17] competitiveness. [1:47:18] » allan t. Marks: and for the [1:47:20] rfp you mentioned solar pv, [1:47:22] energy storage ev charging and [1:47:25] microgrids, has -- especially [1:47:26] with fleets and ev vehicles that [1:47:28] are city owned, whether it's dwp [1:47:30] or other departments, are you -- [1:47:33] when the technology allows for [1:47:35] bidirectional charging, is that [1:47:36] going to be incorporated into [1:47:37] this as well? [1:47:38] » speaker: it's certainly a [1:47:39] possibility, right? We have [1:47:41] issued programs in the past, [1:47:43] commercial energy storage to [1:47:45] grid which unlocked b to g we're [1:47:49] learning a lot from that program [1:47:51] uptake and all complaints that [1:47:53] vendors have, so it's [1:47:56] open-ended. We can the first [1:47:58] year issue this rfp have certain [1:48:03] specifications and next year [1:48:04] when v to g matures more and [1:48:07] costs come down it makes more [1:48:10] sense we change the scope in [1:48:13] order for the energy start ev [1:48:18] chargers to be bidirectional. [1:48:19] really important for us too. [1:48:22] » benny b. Tran: couple more [1:48:23] questions in terms of equity [1:48:25] looking at city of los angeles [1:48:28] we had a lot with this at recs [1:48:31] and parks, what kind of weight [1:48:33] do you give how do you analyze [1:48:36] underserved communities and talk [1:48:37] about economically underserved [1:48:38] in terms of how you roll this [1:48:40] out you mentioned south la we're [1:48:43] glad to hear that do you have [1:48:46] this lens or kind of filter when [1:48:48] you look at how you pick what [1:48:51] projects when and where? [1:48:53] » speaker: we do look at this I [1:48:55] think sb535 that has the map of [1:48:58] the disadvantaged communities [1:48:59] our goal is to deploy the best [1:49:01] possible sites for grid [1:49:03] operators to use for them to [1:49:05] utilize and connect to our der [1:49:07] management system and in such a [1:49:09] way that mostly prioritizes the [1:49:11] distribution system that's going [1:49:13] to be our primary ism thes but [1:49:16] we do have the ability to fit [1:49:18] out for projects within dac's. [1:49:21] » speaker: I would also add [1:49:23] that prime workforce development [1:49:25] component of this is all work [1:49:26] will be conducted under apla [1:49:30] project labor agreement all [1:49:32] local trades for work duration [1:49:34] of the contract all ibw local 11 [1:49:37] and associated other trades that [1:49:38] are part of the pla, then our [1:49:41] forces take on, we continue -- [1:49:43] we will own these assets for the [1:49:45] duration and then as our folks [1:49:47] take on maintenance and [1:49:48] operations of course it will be [1:49:49] dwp staff and folks. So, it's a [1:49:53] little bit less geographically [1:49:55] focused from the dac or equity [1:49:57] standpoint, it doesn't mean we [1:50:00] won't be doing that we can do na [1:50:03] and we will do that. Given [1:50:05] focus on distribution system [1:50:06] balancing that's probably first [1:50:09] priority locationally, second [1:50:11] priority will absolutely be [1:50:14] equitably spread across the city [1:50:16] location, geographically but the [1:50:18] big play is the building [1:50:20] opportunity for the local labor [1:50:22] trades labor force through local [1:50:23] 11. [1:50:24] » com. Wilma pinder: I have a [1:50:25] quick question, and I hope I'm [1:50:26] still at the relevant place you [1:50:29] did have language that said at [1:50:31] the moment ladwp has [1:50:32] insufficient department [1:50:33] personnel available. That is a [1:50:35] line in there, correct? I mean, [1:50:38] were we ever going to have such [1:50:40] personnel? Or is it kind of a [1:50:42] pie in the sky, sort of, thing? [1:50:44] » speaker: no, it absolutely [1:50:46] will buzz because that will be [1:50:49] our commitment to local 18 when [1:50:51] we approve contracts when we [1:50:54] goat to this stage local 18 [1:50:56] won't issue compliance for these [1:50:58] contracts when we're ready to [1:50:59] bring to the board if we don't [1:51:01] have a staffing plan basically [1:51:02] loa that we can commit to staff [1:51:04] up to take these over. [1:51:06] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [1:51:08] that's very important for [1:51:09] something ongoing I thought am I [1:51:11] reading that right? I thought [1:51:13] at the moment ladwp has [1:51:16] insufficient department [1:51:16] personnel available to [1:51:19] accelerate, blah, de, blah, de, [1:51:22] blah. So there is a plan to [1:51:25] have that personnel available. [1:51:27] » speaker: that's in the works [1:51:30] a group called emerging [1:51:31] technologies group which is [1:51:34] rapidly expanding personnel to [1:51:35] support this commitment will be [1:51:40] done. [1:51:42] » speaker: the contract package [1:51:44] we'll bring to the board in a [1:51:45] year or so. [1:51:47] » com. Wilma pinder: that was [1:51:47] my concern. Any other questions [1:51:53] or discussion on this? [1:51:55] » benny b. Tran: last question [1:51:56] if I didn't read by the way if [1:51:57] you need to pass on the answer [1:52:01] if you can. This funded by the [1:52:04] federal government by doa [1:52:07] correct? [1:52:08] » speaker: might have been left [1:52:10] in there prior to I believe the [1:52:13] trump administration canceled [1:52:15] all dob funding that was awarded [1:52:18] to applicants through grip grant [1:52:19] 2023 so those are billions of [1:52:21] dollars that are no longer part [1:52:23] of the play. [1:52:24] » benny b. Tran: so this will [1:52:25] be self-funded program by dwp. [1:52:29] » speaker: that's correct. [1:52:30] » benny b. Tran: thank you. [1:52:31] they all I have. [1:52:32] » com. Wilma pinder: you're not [1:52:33] -- you're not taking any [1:52:35] prisoners federal funding really [1:52:36] bringing up something. All [1:52:38] right. [1:52:40] [laughter] [1:52:40] good. With that full discussion [1:52:43] we thank you for it. Calling [1:52:46] for a vote -- motion to approve. [1:52:49] » speaker: motion. [1:52:49] » speaker: second. [1:52:50] » com. Wilma pinder: roll call [1:52:51] vote. [1:52:51] » board secretary, chante [1:52:52] mitchell: katz? [1:52:52] » nurit katz: aye. [1:52:53] » board secretary, chante [1:52:54] mitchell: marks? [1:52:54] » allan t. Marks: [1:52:55] » board secretary, chante [1:52:55] mitchell: pinder? [1:52:56] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [1:52:57] » board secretary, chante [1:52:57] mitchell: tran? [1:52:58] » benny b. Tran: aye. [1:52:59] » board secretary, chante [1:52:59] mitchell: motion adopted. [1:53:00] » com. Wilma pinder: so we have [1:53:03] concluded. [1:53:04] » speaker: thank you. [1:53:04] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [1:53:05] now this is a lengthy part for [1:53:07] the new commissioner -- this is [1:53:09] when management usually makes [1:53:10] their reports. But I want to go [1:53:14] to -- I'm going to skip ahead. [1:53:18] I'm going skip ahead to l, which [1:53:20] is the minutes. Am I correct, [1:53:24] counsel, that we will be able to [1:53:27] approve that? With those [1:53:30] minutes? Although -- [1:53:31] » speaker: I see we abstain as [1:53:33] new members, correct? [1:53:35] » speaker: if the new members [1:53:36] were to abstain there wouldn't [1:53:37] be enough votes to adopt the [1:53:38] minutes. So, we believe that [1:53:41] you can approve the minutes on [1:53:43] your understanding -- [1:53:48] » nurit katz: two commissioners [1:53:51] as present. [1:53:52] » speaker: they were accurately [1:53:55] reflective of the tape recorded [1:53:56] videotaped meeting. [1:53:57] » speaker: yeah. That makes [1:53:59] sense. [1:53:59] » com. Wilma pinder: yes so I [1:54:00] had already inquired since I [1:54:02] knew you weren't here for that [1:54:04] meeting, but it's the [1:54:05] understanding and I'm just [1:54:06] restating what I thought I [1:54:09] heard, that you were having read [1:54:11] those, and the two of us who [1:54:13] were involved, if we agree, and [1:54:15] we feel it's -- this it's cogent [1:54:17] and correct, that you, in fact, [1:54:21] could vote if you found that [1:54:22] those meeting minutes were [1:54:24] correct. So, I wanted to jump [1:54:25] ahead if in fact we were going [1:54:27] to take a vote on that is there [1:54:30] any unreadiness on this? [1:54:32] » nurit katz: no. Sounds good. [1:54:33] motion to approve the minutes of [1:54:35] the november 18th meeting? [1:54:37] » speaker: second. [1:54:38] » com. Wilma pinder: roll call [1:54:39] vote please. [1:54:41] » board secretary, chante [1:54:42] mitchell: katz? [1:54:42] » nurit katz: aye. [1:54:43] » board secretary, chante [1:54:44] mitchell: marks? [1:54:45] » allan t. Marks: [1:54:45] » board secretary, chante [1:54:46] mitchell: pinder? [1:54:46] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [1:54:47] » board secretary, chante [1:54:48] mitchell: tran? [1:54:48] » benny b. Tran: aye. [1:54:49] » board secretary, chante [1:54:49] mitchell: four ayes motion [1:54:51] adopted. [1:54:51] » com. Wilma pinder: all right [1:54:52] we're at the point in our agenda [1:54:53] that we're now ready for our [1:54:56] management report. And I think [1:55:00] it's just one in this case. Are [1:55:02] they in the audience? [1:55:05] management reports? [1:55:06] » speaker: yes. Let's call up [1:55:09] mr. Mike trewek, don cox to [1:55:18] review storm preparations. [1:55:21] mr. Mike is director of power [1:55:24] transmission distribution also [1:55:28] journey lineman by trade mrs. [1:55:30] don cox is the standpoint [1:55:31] director of power construction [1:55:32] and maintenance electrical [1:55:33] mechanic substation. Take it [1:55:37] away. [1:55:37] » com. Wilma pinder: gentlemen, [1:55:38] before you take it away, since [1:55:40] we are somewhat familiar with [1:55:42] this just go through it fast, [1:55:45] main point. [1:55:46] » speaker: yes, ma'am. [1:55:48] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [1:55:49] » speaker: all right [1:55:51] introductions outs of the way, [1:55:52] quick overview of our five [1:55:54] phases, or steps for our storm [1:55:56] preparation. We'll go over [1:55:58] these in the next few slides. [1:55:59] all right. [1:56:00] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [1:56:00] » speaker: planning, we start [1:56:04] away ahead of the storm season [1:56:06] entails completing open cable [1:56:08] jobs or underground distribution [1:56:10] system if that's not possible [1:56:12] we'll ensure the substructure [1:56:14] gets inspected and pumped of [1:56:16] water prior to storm season. We [1:56:20] prioritize our system and cable [1:56:21] replacement jobs for system [1:56:22] reliability. Our partners at [1:56:23] pcm are proactive in inspecting [1:56:26] various stations based on [1:56:28] historical data. And monitoring [1:56:31] equipment. Okay. Next slide. [1:56:34] so, as the director of ptd I [1:56:38] schedule and lead the prestorm [1:56:40] team meetings. We assemble the [1:56:43] directors of our partner power [1:56:47] groups includes advanced [1:56:48] technologies of ati, pcm, of [1:56:51] course pso, office of emergency [1:56:53] management our call center and [1:56:55] pr and supply chains. I'll [1:56:58] generally share a snapshot of [1:57:00] national weather service and [1:57:01] pending storm details so we all [1:57:04] know what to expect. I'll ask [1:57:06] the power groups to provide a [1:57:08] duty roster of their personnel [1:57:10] they will be on shift and [1:57:11] available for my electric [1:57:12] trouble teams to be able to [1:57:14] connect with if needed. Also [1:57:16] the rosters are provided to the [1:57:18] office of emergency management [1:57:19] and will be used in case we need [1:57:20] to open the pdoc which is the [1:57:26] power distribution operations [1:57:26] commands should our customer [1:57:29] outages grow to a number that [1:57:31] our field personnel be get [1:57:35] stretched thin. The pdoc often [1:57:38] stream lines communication. [1:57:41] okay. The ptd storm response [1:57:44] includes holding over our [1:57:45] construction screws and having [1:57:47] crews start at midnight. This [1:57:50] complements our already 24/7365 [1:57:53] trouble crews. Right? 365 days [1:57:55] we have guys and gals on 24 [1:57:57] hours a day, seven days a week. [1:58:00] we even activate some of our [1:58:01] smaller sections, street lining, [1:58:03] and transmission crews to [1:58:05] further complement [1:58:08] restoration efforts. [1:58:09] at times we have even called out [1:58:11] our pole spotter groups, these [1:58:13] are cell your level single-man [1:58:16] crews that will prefield larger [1:58:17] jobs so the crews know what [1:58:19] they're getting into before [1:58:21] arrival. We have even gotten [1:58:23] our special projects engineering [1:58:25] teams out to our electric [1:58:27] trouble dispatch center to [1:58:30] assist in the sdpdispatch proce [1:58:38] and the pcm will activate their [1:58:41] mcc which is maintenance control [1:58:42] center they will put crews on [1:58:44] the five by five crew plan and [1:58:46] what that means they have [1:58:49] personnel in place where needed. [1:58:51] moving on. [1:58:54] our restoration approach is [1:58:55] twofold starts at number one [1:58:56] with public safety then outage [1:58:59] numbers. Our crews will always [1:59:01] make sure the incidentally scene [1:59:03] or area is safe for public and [1:59:05] themselves that could mean [1:59:07] having the area shut off remote [1:59:09] he by our energy control center [1:59:11] or ecc or by having first [1:59:14] responders as pd or fd stand by [1:59:17] the scene while we energize the [1:59:21] area in the field. Pictures [1:59:23] below but see the left one [1:59:25] pulled down due to a tree far [1:59:27] right that one actually a [1:59:30] vehicle incident hit the pole [1:59:31] during the wet slick rainy sene [1:59:34] season. Drawing your attention [1:59:36] to the center picture aren't [1:59:39] ground substructure obviously [1:59:41] flooded ten by ten by 20 feet a [1:59:43] lot of water in there that's why [1:59:47] it takes extra time for the [1:59:50] underground crews to diagnosis [1:59:52] and trouble shoot these [1:59:54] problems. Moving on. There [1:59:56] are many types of outages caused [1:59:59] by winter storms there are [2:00:02] pictures of customer station [2:00:03] with water intrusion on the [2:00:05] left. To our overhead [2:00:07] infrastructure due to do you [2:00:08] understand tree in the center [2:00:10] picture and then ice and snow in [2:00:12] our owens valley service area. [2:00:14] okay these differ from our [2:00:16] summer storms which primarily [2:00:17] consist of overloaded equipment. [2:00:18] all right. [2:00:25] so customer communication. Our [2:00:29] pdoc, city eeoc and electric [2:00:33] trouble sections communicate [2:00:34] with our public relations folks [2:00:36] to get messages out to [2:00:39] customers. This could be how [2:00:40] we're preparing, provide [2:00:41] customers with tips to be ready [2:00:43] in case of power outages, remind [2:00:48] customers about safety around [2:00:50] downed power lines and share [2:00:52] outage maps on forward facing [2:00:54] web site with information. [2:00:56] okay. So, hopefully wrapped [2:00:58] that up quick. Are there any [2:01:00] questions? [2:01:00] » com. Wilma pinder: oh that [2:01:02] was quick. [2:01:03] [laughter] [2:01:04] » dave hanson: commissioners [2:01:05] I'll add there is a lot of [2:01:09] several different divisions that [2:01:10] work together whenever in the [2:01:12] middle of heat storm sponsor [2:01:14] winds and rain storm response [2:01:17] these two are the gentlemen that [2:01:18] lead the charge on this but we [2:01:21] also work with supply operations [2:01:22] which is our generation [2:01:24] facilities energy control [2:01:25] facility which is our ecc up in [2:01:29] the valley that dispatches [2:01:35] transmission subtransmission and [2:01:38] ati decision that has telecom [2:01:40] because on these poles also [2:01:43] resides telecommunications so [2:01:44] those folks are also called upon [2:01:45] to go out there and do [2:01:49] restoration work we have 24/7365 [2:01:56] linemen under electric trouble [2:01:58] under mr. Mike, moving forward [2:02:00] we're going to have full trouble [2:02:03] organization with operations [2:02:05] maintenance personnel we're in [2:02:06] negotiations now with local 18 [2:02:08] on how we're going to stay that [2:02:11] as quickly as possible while we [2:02:14] do the long-term strategic [2:02:16] staffing plan as well. [2:02:18] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [2:02:20] those photos particularly really [2:02:22] bring it home because it reminds [2:02:24] us again how dangerous all of [2:02:26] this is, not only our workers [2:02:29] but the public there are [2:02:30] vehicles I mean it's like a 24/7 [2:02:35] thing we greatly appreciate all [2:02:37] the effort. The wind storm we [2:02:41] had recently, weakened soil, [2:02:43] happy with the water over there, [2:02:45] it has weakened the soil and [2:02:48] bringing down trees so we're [2:02:51] going to have falling trees when [2:02:53] the ground dries out. Thank you [2:02:55] for that presentation. [2:02:56] » nurit katz: I noted you were [2:02:59] talking about infiltration of [2:03:01] are underground infrastructure [2:03:02] obviously we're keeping an eye [2:03:05] on the palisades and rebuilding [2:03:05] significant under-grounding [2:03:07] there are you tracking lessons [2:03:09] learned from prior storms and [2:03:12] existing underground [2:03:15] infrastructure how we might [2:03:17] inform the process in the [2:03:19] palisades. [2:03:19] » speaker: absolutely we're [2:03:20] sharing all data with both teams [2:03:22] that are developing the [2:03:24] underground system for [2:03:26] palisades. [2:03:26] » nurit katz: there are impacts [2:03:27] to water as well and other types [2:03:30] of emergencies like in [2:03:31] earthquake we would be all hands [2:03:33] on deck on both sides can you [2:03:36] speak to how the power [2:03:38] distribution operational center [2:03:39] works with other admit eocs or [2:03:42] how that -- and this might be an [2:03:46] anselmo/dave question I would be [2:03:48] interested in input on how we're [2:03:50] making sure the power and water [2:03:53] integrate in these manager [2:03:56] conditions. [2:03:57] » dave hanson: you want to [2:03:59] start pdoc then I'll jump in. [2:04:02] » speaker: sure pdoc, get our [2:04:06] power groups together all groups [2:04:08] provide some like dave said some [2:04:10] portion of service to the [2:04:11] electric and we also have wec [2:04:15] which dave and anselmo can take [2:04:18] over on how we work together [2:04:20] between those. [2:04:21] » dave hanson: essentially the [2:04:23] pdoc power distribution [2:04:24] operations center is a power [2:04:26] command we stands up when we [2:04:29] meet certain conditions recently [2:04:31] last year, year and a half we [2:04:33] hit kpi of 5,000 customers where [2:04:36] we start to look at our outage [2:04:38] management system and ask if we [2:04:39] find ourselves twentiesing [2:04:41] upwards from 5,000 and we find [2:04:44] that number to be true we start [2:04:46] to ask questions if it's [2:04:48] starting to look like it's [2:04:49] getting to where bee need to [2:04:51] coordinate with other groups we [2:04:52] would do virtual activation of [2:04:55] pdoc if we hit 10,000 customers [2:04:57] out we verify this number to be [2:04:59] true activate virtually pdoc [2:05:02] look at activating in-person [2:05:04] from there. Pdoc is located at [2:05:09] lincoln heights was built by [2:05:11] mrs. Walter rodriguez former [2:05:16] director of transmission [2:05:17] distribution so that asset lives [2:05:20] under t and dtod and essentially [2:05:24] I call upon mike to stands up [2:05:26] for power if there starts to be [2:05:29] department wide issue now with [2:05:32] anselmo and zoraya in charge of [2:05:35] emergency operations center for [2:05:37] the entire company. [2:05:40] » anselmo collins: so in water [2:05:42] system if emergency is one that [2:05:44] is specific to one division as [2:05:47] the incident know command system [2:05:50] the division handles if it's [2:05:51] going to take multiple divisions [2:05:54] of being impacted as far as [2:05:57] logistics large events water [2:05:59] system and power system [2:06:01] potentially impacted those fall [2:06:03] under the jurisdictional [2:06:05] department's emergency [2:06:06] operations center, wec, pdoc [2:06:08] staff all report up to the [2:06:11] department's eoc center make [2:06:14] sure all coordinated when it [2:06:16] comes to resources and logistics [2:06:18] ensuring we have all resources [2:06:19] necessary for both water and [2:06:22] power systems. [2:06:23] » nurit katz: thank you so [2:06:23] much. I think it's helpful for [2:06:24] the public to elevate the [2:06:27] coordination needed and also [2:06:28] just the interdependence of [2:06:30] water and power which many [2:06:32] members of the public are not [2:06:33] always aware of the fact that we [2:06:36] have high dependence on water in [2:06:38] some of our power facilities [2:06:39] should there be a water outage [2:06:42] and certainly high dependence on [2:06:43] power for critical water [2:06:44] treatment facilities that [2:06:46] collaboration across which I [2:06:47] have is seen improving in the [2:06:49] last year is important and I'm [2:06:50] glad to hear of this icm [2:06:53] coordination in emergency [2:06:55] management. Thank you. [2:06:57] » dave hanson: although we have [2:06:58] done table top exercises in the [2:07:01] past we have cowbells and [2:07:03] operating orders to lay all out [2:07:05] we have never on the power side [2:07:08] activated the poc until about a [2:07:10] year and a half ago because of [2:07:13] janisse bringing on zoraya and [2:07:15] mona they brought expertise [2:07:17] here. So did we miss anything [2:07:18] in our explanation? [2:07:20] » zoraya oliver-griffin: no you [2:07:21] covered it all the only time we [2:07:23] would have a water or power [2:07:26] centric activation that would [2:07:28] require support, and activate is [2:07:33] like when the granada hills [2:07:36] water outage where it required [2:07:38] presentation communications and [2:07:40] support in the community [2:07:41] logistical support we decided to [2:07:43] activate the pdoc. [2:07:46] » nurit katz: got it I'm sure [2:07:48] with your extensive expertise [2:07:50] emergency management since it's [2:07:52] one of the first few activations [2:07:54] looking at hot wash et cetera [2:07:55] I'll be interested to see what [2:07:59] lessons were learned. [2:08:01] » dave hanson: to that point [2:08:02] something we're looking at [2:08:05] national weather service weather [2:08:08] events using that predictive [2:08:11] information making decisions [2:08:13] about energying what circuits we [2:08:15] may have to turn off in the past [2:08:17] as far as part of our wildlife [2:08:21] mitigation plan we haven't had [2:08:22] power safety shut off but [2:08:25] palisades emergency we use that [2:08:27] collaboration with the national [2:08:28] weather service to help make [2:08:29] that decision. [2:08:30] » nurit katz: thank you we're [2:08:31] looking forward to those [2:08:32] wildfire mitigation planning [2:08:34] updates later as well. [2:08:35] » com. Wilma pinder: I'm sure [2:08:38] we'll get them. [2:08:42] » allan t. Marks: can I ask for [2:08:43] clarification. In your report [2:08:44] you mentioned activation of pdoc [2:08:48] and dave you mentioned [2:08:49] thresholds of outages especially [2:08:51] confirmed outages at $5,000, [2:08:54] 10,000, so forth, on the power [2:08:57] side. But there is also your [2:09:00] early report you talked about [2:09:03] activating eoc ahead because you [2:09:05] know that we're having storms [2:09:07] that were coming with them [2:09:09] events in december, so what's [2:09:10] the difference between [2:09:11] activating because you think [2:09:13] there is something coming [2:09:15] because of weather fore cast [2:09:17] maybe activating after a big [2:09:18] event like earthquake where you [2:09:20] still don't know yet what scope [2:09:22] is going to be don't need to [2:09:25] wait to confirm. [2:09:28] » dave hanson: I'll talk for [2:09:30] pdoc, then maybe you could come [2:09:32] up and fill the gaps. We look [2:09:35] at being proactive so there is [2:09:37] board action from a few years [2:09:40] ago maybe joe can remember we [2:09:42] establish a response maybe joe [2:09:44] can summer we establish response [2:09:46] level for electric trouble I [2:09:47] don't remember what year 2015? [2:09:49] I don't know if that's right we [2:09:51] establish response level for [2:09:54] electric trouble level when [2:09:55] we're at normal level response [2:09:57] that's a promise to our [2:10:00] customers we will respond to [2:10:01] your outage within four hours it [2:10:03] doesn't mean etr estimated time [2:10:05] of restoration it means response [2:10:08] so at response level normal four [2:10:10] years anybody that can look at [2:10:13] our outhitage map internal [2:10:16] numbers all driven by grgis [2:10:18] system we'll have a presentation [2:10:20] on this in the future but [2:10:22] response level it's four hours [2:10:24] if we go to response level one [2:10:26] from 4 to 12 hours, response two [2:10:30] is 12 to 24 and response level [2:10:33] three tbd now at response level [2:10:35] three we are required by board [2:10:37] action to proactively staff and [2:10:39] bring on power construction and [2:10:42] maintenance substation [2:10:43] electricians in the past we did [2:10:46] not do that proactively so now [2:10:50] that's why we see the [2:10:51] presentation before we refer to [2:10:53] five by five under the new [2:10:56] leadership at power construction [2:10:57] maintenance they established a [2:10:59] proactive feature like that so [2:11:01] we bring on two crews in each of [2:11:03] the five service areas before we [2:11:05] ever get into the boards [2:11:06] requirement of making them come [2:11:08] in it's kind of a firefighter [2:11:11] model we're ready on premise we [2:11:12] cut out 2 and 3 hour delay for [2:11:15] calling folks out so those [2:11:16] levels don't have anything to do [2:11:18] with activation levels by eoc or [2:11:22] departmented eocz. [2:11:24] » speaker: and specifically for [2:11:27] this situation for this storm in [2:11:28] december it really was a game [2:11:30] day decision after being briefed [2:11:31] by the national weather service [2:11:33] that afternoon. Of the 23rd. [2:11:38] because the rain, we were [2:11:39] getting far more rain faster [2:11:41] than was originally forecasted. [2:11:45] they also weave said in the high [2:11:50] potential for a tornado which we [2:11:52] didn't know about until that day [2:11:54] so truly in the morning I talked [2:11:57] to dave and said we're fine with [2:12:01] just the pdoc after having heard [2:12:04] the national weather service [2:12:06] giving a briefing we immediate [2:12:08] adjusted to what the situation [2:12:10] called for to activate eoc that [2:12:13] evening. [2:12:14] » dave hanson: actually the [2:12:16] same conversation prior to the [2:12:18] palisades tragedy that morning [2:12:22] zoraya and I were talking about [2:12:25] proactively activating the [2:12:26] department emergency operations [2:12:28] center then saw smoke on the [2:12:29] hill. So we were already taking [2:12:32] steps if that direction. [2:12:33] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [2:12:34] very much. Are you concluded? [2:12:36] » speaker: thank you very much. [2:12:36] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [2:12:37] for your presentation. Is there [2:12:40] there a second? That concludes [2:12:43] that. We have heard our [2:12:44] commissioners attending one [2:12:45] event are there any other [2:12:47] reports by a commissioner on any [2:12:49] committee activity? [2:12:51] » nurit katz: not at this time. [2:12:52] » com. Wilma pinder: and I [2:12:53] don't know what committees you [2:12:54] ultimately will be on, as I said [2:12:57] I'm on the retirement committee [2:12:59] and I'm holding that down, I [2:13:01] just enjoy it so much. But [2:13:03] whatever committees you [2:13:04] ultimately will be working on, I [2:13:06] really want you to roll up your [2:13:08] sleeves and dig in. It can be [2:13:10] quite enjoyable. So, no [2:13:13] committee reports in that [2:13:14] regard. [2:13:14] now, this is a matter that does [2:13:15] not require a vote. It is for [2:13:18] the presiding officer or next [2:13:21] time the president to direct the [2:13:24] commission secretary to file [2:13:27] items one -- k one through [2:13:31] k-nine, which are various [2:13:32] notices that we get through the [2:13:34] government, et cetera, and [2:13:36] they're basically considered at [2:13:37] this point historical documents [2:13:39] that are remaining for us to [2:13:49] peruse should we need to. On [2:13:50] item 11 we have already handled [2:13:53] the minutes. Item m? [2:13:56] » nurit katz: no new motions at [2:13:59] this time. [2:14:01] » allan t. Marks: nothing here. [2:14:02] » com. Wilma pinder: any motion [2:14:04] on your part? Thank you. [2:14:05] secretary, I have missed [2:14:06] anything so far? Oh, yes, is [2:14:11] there any discussion with the [2:14:14] neighborhood council [2:14:16] representatives? Are there any [2:14:17] in the audience or have any [2:14:18] notices been filed by [2:14:21] mitchell: no community impact [2:14:24] statements or formal positions [2:14:25] were filed by any neighborhood [2:14:26] councils on the items on today's [2:14:26] agenda. [2:14:27] » com. Wilma pinder: either now [2:14:28] or in the future would you let [2:14:31] this board know how many [2:14:32] neighborhood councils there are? [2:14:34] » board secretary, chante [2:14:35] mitchell: joe's office let us [2:14:37] know that there are 99 councils. [2:14:40] » com. Wilma pinder: so there [2:14:41] are 99 councils that could have [2:14:44] filed something with us or could [2:14:45] speak to us at any time. So [2:14:48] that will always be on our [2:14:49] records that's something that we [2:14:51] should take care of. Now, if [2:14:53] I'm not incorrect, I think we [2:14:54] have moved to the point of [2:14:56] election of officers. And, by [2:14:58] the way, we are -- we do have [2:15:02] another commissioner, I think it [2:15:03] was mentioned earlier, who is [2:15:05] still waiting to go before city [2:15:07] council. It would have been so [2:15:09] wonderful to have had that [2:15:10] person today, since we kind of [2:15:13] were in a kumbaya type of mood [2:15:15] here and many things that are [2:15:17] not normally said on the record [2:15:18] were said on the record. But [2:15:20] when that person comes, I will [2:15:21] hope that you will be as warm as [2:15:23] you have been in welcoming the [2:15:25] two commissioners to my left and [2:15:28] to my right. Still, at this [2:15:29] point, we do have a quorum. So, [2:15:33] we are always able, today, to [2:15:36] make any decisions for this [2:15:38] board, even absent our remaining [2:15:41] commissioner. [2:15:43] so, at this point, I would move [2:15:48] to the point where we are to [2:15:50] elect a president of the [2:15:56] commission. And I would [2:15:57] entertain a motion for said [2:16:00] office of president. [2:16:01] » benny b. Tran: I would like [2:16:02] to nominate commissioner alan [2:16:04] marks to be president of the [2:16:07] board. [2:16:08] » allan t. Marks: thank you. [2:16:10] » com. Wilma pinder: alan [2:16:11] marks, if voted in, would you [2:16:13] even accept that? [2:16:15] » allan t. Marks: yes. It [2:16:15] would be a privilege. Thank [2:16:18] you. [2:16:19] » com. Wilma pinder: with that [2:16:20] having been stated, I would now [2:16:22] call for a second. [2:16:25] » nurit katz: second that [2:16:27] nomination. [2:16:27] » com. Wilma pinder: having [2:16:28] heard the motion having heard [2:16:30] that this person would be a [2:16:33] willing president if elected. [2:16:35] our vote. [2:16:35] » board secretary, chante [2:16:36] mitchell: katz? [2:16:36] » nurit katz: aye. [2:16:37] » board secretary, chante [2:16:37] mitchell: marks? [2:16:39] » allan t. Marks: [2:16:39] » board secretary, chante [2:16:40] mitchell: pinder? [2:16:40] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [2:16:41] » board secretary, chante [2:16:41] mitchell: tran? [2:16:43] » benny b. Tran: aye. [2:16:44] » board secretary, chante [2:16:44] mitchell: with unanimous [2:16:46] consent, motion adopted. [2:16:47] » com. Wilma pinder: our [2:16:48] president of the board will be, [2:16:51] forthcoming. [2:16:51] » allan t. Marks: and I would [2:16:54] ask you to continue to preside [2:16:56] over this meeting commissioner [2:16:57] pinder. [2:16:58] » com. Wilma pinder: I will [2:16:59] conclude this meeting then and [2:17:01] continue, with that said, again, [2:17:02] it will be more formal welcomes [2:17:04] when you do, in fact, take over [2:17:06] at our next meeting. And I [2:17:09] congratulate you on that now [2:17:10] before everyone. I will now [2:17:13] call for a motion for a vice [2:17:16] president. [2:17:17] » allan t. Marks: I would like [2:17:18] to move and nominate [2:17:20] commissioner nurit katz to be [2:17:22] the vice president. [2:17:26] » benny b. Tran: second. [2:17:27] » com. Wilma pinder: [2:17:28] commissioner katz, in fact you [2:17:29] are nominated are you illegaling [2:17:31] to serve? [2:17:32] » nurit katz: it would be an [2:17:34] honor. Thank you. [2:17:36] » com. Wilma pinder: calling [2:17:36] for the vote. [2:17:37] » board secretary, chante [2:17:37] mitchell: katz? [2:17:38] » nurit katz: aye. [2:17:39] » board secretary, chante [2:17:40] mitchell: marks? [2:17:41] » allan t. Marks: [2:17:41] » board secretary, chante [2:17:42] mitchell: pinder? [2:17:42] » com. Wilma pinder: aye. [2:17:43] » board secretary, chante [2:17:43] mitchell: tran? [2:17:44] » benny b. Tran: aye. [2:17:45] » board secretary, chante [2:17:45] mitchell: unanimous consent. [2:17:47] motion adopted. [2:17:48] » com. Wilma pinder: madam [2:17:50] commissioner -- madam commission [2:17:51] president -- I mean, secretary, [2:17:54] will you please double check the [2:17:56] entire roster to make sure that [2:17:58] nothing has been overlooked [2:17:59] before I move us into closed [2:18:02] session? [2:18:02] » board secretary, chante [2:18:02] mitchell: all items have been [2:18:05] addressed. [2:18:06] » com. Wilma pinder: madam [2:18:08] counsel, is there any other [2:18:09] matter that you feel that we [2:18:12] should go over before you -- we [2:18:14] move into closed session? [2:18:19] counsel. [2:18:19] » speaker: no I'm ready to take [2:18:21] us into closed session. [2:18:24] » com. Wilma pinder: ready. [2:18:26] » speaker: as you know the [2:18:27] california open meeting law the [2:18:29] brown act requires that we list [2:18:31] the matters the board will [2:18:33] consider in closed session [2:18:35] please bare with me as I read [2:18:37] the list today we have several [2:18:39] items seven in fact I'll be [2:18:41] reading the case nameses and [2:18:42] court numbers for the record. [2:18:45] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you. [2:18:45] » speaker: the board shall [2:18:46] recess into closed session for [2:18:48] conference with legal counsel [2:18:49] regarding the following items. [2:18:52] gabriel gonzalez versus los [2:18:52] angeles departments of water and [2:18:55] power, los angeles superior [2:18:57] court case number 24stcv 31461. [2:19:08] longmanhe versus ladwp los [2:19:10] angeles superior court case [2:19:12] number 20 stcv 34249. [2:19:22] carageo, versus ladwp superior [2:19:25] court case number 23stcv30350. [2:19:34] kia versus ladwp los angeles [2:19:37] superior court case 24stcv [2:19:47] 04955. [2:19:49] randy simon versus los angeles [2:19:52] superior court case 23stcv [2:19:57] 07592. [2:19:57] kathy pimatelle versus ladwp los [2:20:02] angeles superior court case [2:20:05] number 22chcv00934 and lastly [2:20:13] molnar versus city of los [2:20:15] angeles superior court case [2:20:18] number 32888. [2:20:20] » com. Wilma pinder: that [2:20:21] concludes the announcements that [2:20:22] have to be maintained on the [2:20:24] record I would say to our [2:20:27] commissioners please take ten [2:20:31] minutes before we adjourn into [2:20:32] the conference room for our [2:20:34] meeting. At this point the [2:20:34] meeting is officially brought to [2:20:36] a close. [2:20:38] » speaker: we will be after [2:20:40] closed session however we'll [2:20:41] come back on the record to [2:20:45] adjourn. [2:20:45] » com. Wilma pinder: thank you [2:20:47] very much. Close close. 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[3:49:42] » speaker: we're back in open [3:49:52] session report-out actions from [3:49:53] the closed session start with [3:49:56] action item one involving case [3:50:05] called gabriel gonzalez versus [3:50:06] los angeles department of water [3:50:08] and power the board did not [3:50:09] approve the plaintiff's offer to [3:50:12] compromise the case at [3:50:18] $9,950,000. Agenda item five [3:50:19] the case of randy simon versus [3:50:21] city of los angeles of water and [3:50:24] power the board consented to a [3:50:27] settlement of the matter in the [3:50:29] amount of $500,000. [3:50:32] item six kathia versus ladwp the [3:50:37] board consented to a settlement [3:50:41] in the amount of $775,000. [3:50:45] board agenda item three in the [3:50:48] case of kara zakus versus ladwp [3:50:52] the board provided settlement [3:50:54] authority to make a 998 offer [3:50:57] for $200,000. And in the [3:51:01] molener case, molener versus [3:51:03] city of los angeles no action [3:51:05] was taken, and item number four, [3:51:16] yechzkia versus ladwp was [3:51:17] deferred [3:51:19] » com. Allan t. Marks: thank [3:51:20] you. With no further business,