[1:07] Good morning. Testing, testing.
[1:19] So, he said it's good. Um, so then we'll
check on
[1:24] public comment. Good morning. I see
audit LA on the line. Do you have
[1:29] general public comment and comment our
on our agenda items today?
[1:33] » Good morning, Mr. Turski. Yes, I would
like um general public and uh all items,
[1:38] please.
>> Wonderful. We will get to you when we
[1:40] get started.
>> Thank you.
[4:31] breaking.
[9:10] So this is for
[9:34] Hello. How are you?
[9:52] Sit up here.
Sit up there.
[10:07] » How nice. Everybody get 60 seconds to
speak.
[10:12] Okay.
[10:19] Okay.
[10:24] Diane,
hi John. How are you?
[16:42] Good morning. Thank you for everyone
joining us in person and on the Zoom
[16:46] platform. I'm gonna do a call for hands
raised before we get started shortly.
[16:51] Good morning, Laura. Do you have general
public comment or comment on any of our
[16:54] items?
>> Yes, please. General public and uh all
[16:58] items, please.
>> Thank you.
[17:02] » And Georgina, good morning. I see you
have your hand raised. Do you have
[17:05] general public comment or comment on any
of our items today?
[17:08] » Public comment and all agenda items,
please.
[17:11] » Great. Thank you.
[18:35] All right, let me put us into record
mode. Okay, President Kang, we're now
[18:39] recording. I can get started.
Good morning everybody and welcome to
[18:44] the regularly scheduled meeting of the
board of public works for Wednesday,
[18:47] February 4th, 2026. Miss Zatski, please
take role and establish quorum.
[18:53] » Of course. Good morning everyone. Devon
Zatski with the board of public works
[18:57] taking role in establishing quorum.
We're joined by President Kang, Vice
[19:00] President Chavez, President Prom Grant,
Commissioner Mitchell, and Commissioner
[19:04] Cardinas. We're also joined by our city
attorney representative, Miss Virginia
[19:08] Choy. Um, we do have public comment
today and multiple item commentary all
[19:14] on the Zoom platform only today and no
neighborhood council comments.
[19:18] » Thank you very much. We will get started
with general public comment which is an
[19:21] opportunity for the public to address
the board on public interest items and
[19:25] will be provided up to one minute per
person up to a cumulative total of 10
[19:28] minutes for the general public comment
segment of each regular meeting.
[19:32] Testimony shall be limited in content to
subject matters which are within the
[19:35] jurisdiction of the board of public
works. The board may not take any action
[19:38] on any matters discussed during the
public comment period. We do not have
[19:42] any inperson speakers, so we will
transition to our virtual platform.
[19:47] » Okay. Our first caller, Audit LA. Good
morning. You'll have one minute for
[19:50] general public comment.
>> Good morning, everyone. Um, I want to
[19:54] start off, I did ask before. I wanted to
um ask for a an investigation into what
[19:59] happened with the shrine, what went
wrong, and why the Bureau of Street
[20:02] Services did uh collude with CD9 and
LAPD to create an area where the
[20:09] sidewalks were um they were partially
closed to only open to the public that
[20:16] lived there, not to the general public,
which is illegal. It's it goes against
[20:21] your page two. The city attorney's
office has already ruled on that that
[20:25] no, you cannot close it is a, you know,
unconstitutional to close the entire
[20:30] sidewalk to a passing public. But they
did it and they had Scientologists um,
[20:35] you know, checking everyone's ID to see
whether or not they belonged in that
[20:39] block and to go down that street. And I
don't know in what, you know, world that
[20:43] Scientology gets to decide whether or
not I get to go down a street or not. So
[20:48] I am asking you to please this is
something that really needs to be
[20:51] addressed. It needs to be looked like
what went wrong fix it if it's
[20:55] internally. Thank you.
>> Our next caller is Laura FM. Laura,
[21:00] you'll have one minute for general
public comment.
[21:05] » Hi, good morning board. Again, I would
like to bring up the revocable permit
[21:11] that Elron Hubard Way. have a street
that is named literally from a cult
[21:17] human trafficking abusive organization
that has been getting away with this as
[21:21] you know as we've been talking about
this for the last 3 years. And so we
[21:26] would like that to be able to be put on
the board uh on as a as an option for
[21:32] people to vote or to be looked into
specifically because a they're not
[21:36] paying their insurance that they should
be paying and there's many other fees
[21:40] and the what they the reason they're
using the Elron Hover naming and all of
[21:44] that is because of their manipulative
tactics of pretending they own the the
[21:49] whole neighborhood in the city. So,
please can we get that revocable permit
[21:54] to get rid of Elron Hubard Way and put
it back to North Barendo Street? Please,
[21:58] please, please get that on the uh or
give us the option for that to be. And
[22:05] then also, if you can stop giving
Scientology permits, that would be
[22:12] » okay. Our next caller is Georgina. And
Georgina, good morning. You'll have one
[22:15] minute for general.
>> Good morning. Thank you. Yeah. The fact
[22:19] that they were IDing people are you're
not allowed to have a guest that day.
[22:24] You could only use a public street owned
by the public if you lived on that
[22:30] street. What if you had a guest? What if
you had a delivery? What if you wanted
[22:34] to order in pizza? You're not allowed to
have uh services on a day where
[22:40] Scientology happens to be doing
something on that block that day. That's
[22:44] ridiculous. It's amazing that you have
allowed this to happen and their
[22:49] revocable permit absolutely needs to be
revoked. They should be denied all
[22:53] permits as a consequence of their
excessive abuses of every single permit
[22:58] they've been given. Thank you.
>> Thank you, caller. All right, President
[23:03] Kang, that is the end of our hands
raised for general public comment.
[23:07] » Thank you very much. With that, we will
close general public comment and move
[23:11] forward with multiple agenda item public
comment. The board will provide an
[23:15] opportunity for members of the public
wishing to speak on more than one agenda
[23:19] item during multiple agenda item comment
period for up to a minute per item up to
[23:24] a total of three minutes. Today we only
have the minutes and one agenda items.
[23:29] So you have up to two minutes um for
this meeting. This is the only time to
[23:35] speak on more than one agenda item and
please identify the items that you will
[23:38] speak on when you are called. We do not
have any inerson speakers, so we will
[23:42] transition to our virtual platform.
>> Okay, audit LA, um I see you have your
[23:48] hand raised. You'll have two minutes.
Please let us know which items.
[23:52] » Good morning. Um let's start with the
agenda item. Um I guess number one
[23:56] first. Uh we're talking sidewalk and
street amenities. Um amenities sounds
[24:02] great. That sounds fancy and upscale.
What we really need is just sidewalks
[24:07] and streets that are paved, that are
passable. I am already on my going on my
[24:12] fourth set of wheels for a chair. I've
only had not less than a year. It's just
[24:17] insane. Um people go with me, they get
shocked how I just like I can't navigate
[24:22] so many much of it. So, I don't need
amenities cuz actually the amenities
[24:26] actually block things. it blocks my um
my my travel uh because a lot of times
[24:32] there's not enough room and the sidewalk
is bad. But but the other sidewalk I
[24:36] want to talk about is on Elron Harbor
Way and amenities there is that if you
[24:41] go down there, especially if you're a
former Scientologist that wants to just
[24:45] go back to maybe heal and relive the
crimes against you, that you're going to
[24:50] be chased away. You're going to be
intimidated by guards, Scientology
[24:55] guards who do not have a contract with
the city to guard Elron Hoverard Way
[25:00] Street or sidewalks. Their job is inside
their property. That's the only place
[25:04] that they have any authority, but they
want to bring authority out to the
[25:08] street and it needs to stop. It needs to
be investigated. I don't know if it
[25:12] needs to be just through public works or
LA DOT or if you need to do a joint task
[25:17] force to make it stop, but there cannot
be a street in America anywhere where
[25:22] the citizens feel intimidated to go
down, especially people who are victims
[25:27] or who, you know, or anyone. No one
should be intimidated. The nurses at
[25:31] Kaiser who want to pass through, people
who want to go through protest, whoever.
[25:36] Nobody should be intimidated. It needs
to stop. As far as the minutes, um I'm
[25:41] really glad you're getting Graticus. I
hope you utilize it to its full um
[25:45] potential with the minutes because I
think it's really important and it's not
[25:49] anything about, oh, we want to re we
want to it's to see what we're saying.
[25:53] No, we just want it documented.
>> We've been persistent with this.
[25:57] » Thank you.
>> Our next caller is Laura FM. Laura,
[26:01] you'll have two minutes for minutes in
item number one.
[26:04] » Thank you. I'm going to also uh echo
Audit LA's comment there just now and um
[26:12] again with the minutes. Same with the
just being able to have something that
[26:16] shows uh you know that the public call
in and and but put in there exactly what
[26:23] it is. There's a system now that you'll
be able to use and hopefully that will
[26:27] do that. But it's it's one thing if you
feel like, oh, you're just, you know,
[26:32] you can't really do anything or you got
something going on and some, you know,
[26:36] sometimes the permits and all this
takes time and maybe you're sitting
[26:39] there like thinking you can't do
anything. These are certain things you
[26:42] can do. It helps people like me who were
raised in the cult of Scientology to
[26:46] show that look, these are the things
that they're doing, infiltrating public
[26:50] works and public the city sidewalks and
stuff like that by having fake programs,
[26:56] fake permits, fake street names, all of
this. All of it does wind up on you guys
[27:01] and on the board of public works. So, I
really do appreciate the whole thing
[27:05] with the minutes and that you do have
granite kiss now to be able to reflect
[27:09] that because we need that reflection as
the children born and raised in this
[27:13] cult that has destroyed our
families. We need that reflection so
[27:17] that later we can go and show the judges
and the court people what what legally
[27:23] what's going on and why Scientology is
so manipulative and abusive in public
[27:27] works in the city. So, thank you for
that and I yield my time. please revoke
[27:32] their sign their permit on Elron
Hardway.
[27:34] » Thank you caller.
Our next caller is Georgina. Georgina,
[27:39] you'll have two minutes for minutes and
item number one.
[27:43] » Yeah, I'd like to speak on minutes
first. I'm super excited about the
[27:47] prospects that will come with Granus. I
expect great things from you guys. U as
[27:53] far as your YouTube channel goes, the
fact that every video has the exact same
[27:58] name. I mean, I'm just asking bare
minimum from you guys. Throw in a date.
[28:04] Make those records researchable. How are
you supposed to look up anything when
[28:08] you have thousands of videos each with
the exact same title? That's really uh
[28:14] shoddy worksmanship. I expect better.
I'm just asking for bare minimum. Uh, as
[28:19] far as agenda item number one, um,
sidewalk repairs and sidewalk amenities,
[28:26] you know what amenity I would like to
see? I would like the public sidewalk to
[28:32] be publicly accessible to people. The
fact that they deny access to the public
[28:38] on a public sidewalk. What gives them
the right? They don't own the sidewalk.
[28:43] It's ridiculous. You need to do better.
Thank you. I yield back my time. Thank
[28:48] you, caller. Um, all right, President
Kang, that's the end of our hands raised
[28:51] on the Zoom platform. We have one.
>> Thank you very much. I know we uh closed
[28:58] general public comment, but multiple is
open. And so, I want to call up Jill
[29:01] Jill Scientology. You have up to two
minutes since we only have two.
[29:06] » Thank you. Um, the reason why I'm late
is because our public work is doing a
[29:10] great job. So I'm very happy I lose my
minutes because I'm seeing our public
[29:15] work is doing the real work. So that's
why the bus is delayed. So stop uh
[29:19] talking about the minutes is that um I'm
here to support our um public work
[29:24] directors because in the past year
actually past several years I've heard
[29:29] multiple comments attacking on the all
department officials uh uh protest on
[29:35] all department appointment or or whether
is LAPD chief, the public work director,
[29:42] you know the mayor, the city council, uh
those are criminal protesters, they are
[29:46] just never happy with anyone. with
anything. So I am here I'm the only one
[29:51] in Los Angeles who want to voice our
support that our public work department
[29:57] needs improvement. There are room for
improvement but at least I want to voice
[30:01] my support to all agency directors in
public works even though I am the only
[30:06] one who support them. Uh number two,
let's talking about the sidewalk issues.
[30:11] Yes, sidewalk issues. Um again I am here
to support our Bureau of Street
[30:17] Services, Bureau of Sanitation. They
need improvement but they are doing a
[30:22] decent job. I want to give them a huge
round of applause. And then one of my
[30:26] friend DOA, one of my brother DOA
actually uh lost um lost his truck his
[30:32] van uh due to his uh um ex-wife is a is
a theft or whatever and then uh they
[30:39] steal his van and then the van was
actually broken because of the broken
[30:43] sidewalk because of the broken street
surfaces, right? So definitely I really
[30:49] wish uh my friend DOA can get his truck
back and I definitely wish that in the
[30:53] future when we have a old old cheap car
we don't have to uh damage our car just
[30:59] driving on the surface of the street
support public work. Thank you sir.
[31:04] » Thank you very much. Do we have any
other speakers on the queue?
[31:08] » No.
>> All right. Thank you very much. With
[31:11] that, we will close multiple item public
comment portion of today's meeting and
[31:15] move forward with the approval of
minutes for Monday, January 26, 2026.
[31:21] Uh, commissioners, any questions or
comments? Seeing no other discussion, is
[31:25] there a first and a second?
>> So move.
[31:27] » Second.
>> First by President Proim Grant, seconded
[31:30] by Commissioner Cardness.
>> We will take the roll call starting with
[31:34] you. President K.
>> I.
[31:36] » Vice President Chavez.
>> I.
[31:38] » President Prom Grant.
>> Hi. Um, Commissioner Mitchell.
[31:42] » And Commissioner Cardes.
>> Hi.
[31:43] » Great. All eyes. The minutes are
approved.
[31:46] » Thank you very much. Moving on to agenda
item number one, sidewalk and transit
[31:51] amenities program from the Bureau of
Street Services.
[31:58] » Good morning. Uh, good morning President
Kang, uh, commissioners and city uh,
[32:04] representative. Um, I'm here today to My
name is Kenneth Tang. I am the uh
[32:10] contract administrator for our sidewalk
transit amendy program. Um today we're
[32:15] here to provide an oral um presentation
and then give you some update on the
[32:21] previous uh two quarter starting July
1st to the end of the calendar year and
[32:27] um we wanted to provide context for
three major item right first one is
[32:33] relating to the overall structure the
contract how we doing is this new
[32:38] contract work and yes that's the uh uh
bottom line of that The second piece is
[32:45] the implementation and roll out pace.
How are we doing? Are we improving? And
[32:50] the answer is also a yes in that one.
And the third and final piece and a lot
[32:54] of uh focus from you all for
maintenance. And we also here to provide
[32:59] you some updated result from our audit
and brings you with the number and the
[33:05] recommendation on how to proceed. Uh
with that, starting off with the
[33:10] contract. Uh for those of you who are
not aware um staff uh contract is very
[33:16] um uh innovative and h very uh new we
are uh receiving over 65 and a half% of
[33:24] revenue on each of the advertisement
revenue. The rest go to the uh contract
[33:29] to maintain and sell advertisement. And
this is a new model. Um and the only
[33:34] caveat for this particular contract is
we have to invest in initial capital. Um
[33:41] with that said the number that have been
showing is very promising over the past
[33:47] two quarter that reported we have over 7
uh 38 million reported in uh as a
[33:53] revenue from the advertisement. portion
that come to the city and that is the
[33:58] highest we ever received uh for any two
consecutive quarter in the entire
[34:03] history of the program.
Um the other number that I want to show
[34:08] is that since the beginning of the
contract in 2022 2023 we have received
[34:14] over 36 uh million dollar.
This number is significant because that
[34:21] is represent over 40%
of what the previous contract were able
[34:27] to made over 20 years. So three year we
already more than almost halfway through
[34:34] the uh what the previous contract was
able to make. So uh the bottom line here
[34:40] is that this structure work and uh you
see in the revenue um that is continue
[34:46] to grow and we anticipate to continue to
grow in the coming year as the we build
[34:50] out more structure.
Uh we anticipate we can bring up to uh
[34:55] $60 million for the city um in the when
fully built out in 2032.
[35:01] The next item I want to uh talk about a
little bit is the pace of
[35:05] implementations. Uh the goal for the
program is to bring uh uh put in 3,000
[35:10] transit shelter uh 450 shaped structure
and a few a bunch of other amenity as
[35:16] part of the staff program. Um so that's
why it's important for us to create a
[35:21] process and a pace that we can sustain
with the funding right and uh I'm happy
[35:27] to report that we for the most part have
uh resolved the logistic of each
[35:32] department and process to get the
location built and install the shelter.
[35:37] There are some uh uh administrative and
there's some other smaller uh resource
[35:43] issue with vious department that
continue to be the pipeline and
[35:48] constraint for the program to fully uh
um roll out but at least we have the
[35:55] process established uh we're not
figuring out for the first time it's
[35:58] become a more steady rate now we're
working on controlling that pace
[36:03] um I also happy to report that during
the that quarter we also resolve a
[36:08] pending SQA challenge to the program. So
those are fully uh resolved and that's
[36:15] allow our program to uh uh uh get more
freedom to actually do a lot of what we
[36:21] need to do for the program. Um we also
increased capacity. We had uh funded uh
[36:30] 12 position at BSL which allow us to
increase uh the ability for us to access
[36:36] BSL lighting and repair to our shelter.
Um and we are hitting uh uh over 200
[36:44] service requests that um BSL support us
on meaning we also help
[36:51] fix light as part of our program. So
it's not just shelter program. We also
[36:56] bring some of the light uh
infrastructure uh back online.
[37:01] I'm also uh happy to report that we
continue to build partnership with Metro
[37:05] who is one of the largest transit
operator in the in the region. Um and
[37:11] that partnership include
um integrating our shelter design into
[37:17] their uh bus rapid transit corridor
along Vermont and a nohole to Pasadena
[37:25] corridor. What that mean is they will be
uh using our transit shelter on those
[37:30] stations allowing us to put
advertisement on those platform. So it's
[37:35] revenue that's uh investment into the
initial capital for the program that we
[37:39] continue to sustain and use
advertisement to continue maintain them.
[37:43] We are working on finalizing the detail.
Those will come to you once we have all
[37:48] the maintenance and the uh final uh um
agreement uh in place with metro. But
[37:54] it's a exciting collaboration with Metro
and we want to have a uniform uh look
[38:00] and feel across the region that this is
about stop.
[38:06] Um
the uh final thing that I want to uh
[38:11] bring up is that the program is rolling
forward and we anticipate we will meet
[38:17] our goal this year. Um there are some
constraint around material procurement.
[38:22] It's a nationwide issue but we
anticipate we will be able to resolve
[38:26] those uh quickly and um uh bring to the
uh goal for the year. Finally, the meat
[38:34] of the report, the maintenance and this
is something that uh we are um very
[38:41] thorough in our uh investigation so that
we present to you with fact and with a
[38:47] matrix that can represent the actual
issue at hand.
[38:51] So
from our uh uh analysis so far we uh see
[38:58] there is a traumatic increase in the
number of requests and uh uh maintenance
[39:05] issue at bus stop. Um unfortunately this
is not just at bus stop. Bus stop
[39:10] doesn't live in that uh isolated bubble.
This is a a city-wide kind of uh issue
[39:17] that increase in vandalism and other uh
type of requests is generally a trending
[39:24] across the city. But let me just report
on staff program for the last two
[39:29] quarter.
[39:32] Um over the last two quarter we have
over 3,000 vandalism requests open and
[39:39] closed.
graffiti specifically
[39:43] um and sticker on those shelter. We have
over 2,157
[39:49] uh
report and and and address. Uh we also
[39:55] have quite a few broken glass and uh
panel repair that happened at these bus
[40:01] stop over 900 of those. So um overall
the last two quarter is following the
[40:08] same trends we saw uh over the past five
years and I can go into more detail
[40:14] about the uh overall trend as well as
part of the audit report but um the last
[40:22] two quarter
total over 6,500
[40:28] um service requests was received and
closed. that's averaging more than a
[40:33] thousand per month.
So it is a a a big hall for um us to uh
[40:41] uh address and this is a systematic
thing that we want to uh talk to you all
[40:46] about some of the potential solution
that we propose moving forward. But
[40:50] before we dive into the uh solution, I
do want to bring up a uh request by you
[40:57] all about the audit itself. how what was
the result of it and what was the
[41:01] recommendation that came out of it. So
the audit look at the data from 2019 uh
[41:07] pre- pandemic all the way till 2025
and this examination is looking at the
[41:14] trend of different kind of service
requests that we receive and um here are
[41:19] some of the highlight
we had received an increase of over 200%
[41:25] of graffiti incident over that past year
five years we received over uh another
[41:32] 67% % increase since 2019.
Uh overflow of trash and legal dumping
[41:38] over 400% increase since 2015 uh 2019.
Total work order for the entire uh uh um
[41:47] staff program had increased over 200%.
So the bottom line is uh it's a
[41:56] issue that we see trending that cannot
be addressed
[42:01] only with the current contract
obligations.
[42:06] And on that note, the contractor are
performing above and beyond uh what is
[42:13] listed on a contract on a regular basis.
They are visiting each site over uh um
[42:20] two and a half time uh per furniture per
weeks. So two and a half time uh per
[42:27] weeks per furniture.
Uh the contract only require about 1.6
[42:33] per weeks.
So
[42:38] they are uh meeting the application and
beyond. Uh the challenge right now is
[42:44] more than just the uh contract themsel
not uh performing or not performing up
[42:50] to par is the increased volume of
vandalism and all these requests.
[42:57] Uh our recommendation and step forward
[43:02] we uh are working on a uh privatization
exercise to
[43:08] target location that consider hotspot.
So there will be more uh stopped by
[43:15] these uh contractor at that hotspot
locations and then less on the other
[43:21] that doesn't need that same cleaning or
have other kind of resource that already
[43:26] associate with it. Maybe a bit is
already taking care of some of these
[43:30] spot, right? So, we wanted to make sure
that we have a a method that fairly
[43:36] judge where location is needed more or
less and monitor it, not just release it
[43:40] after we change the um the schedule
maintenance. The second thing we also
[43:46] plan to do is lessen the target of uh
thing at the amenity for people to tag
[43:52] on. Remove the back panel where it's not
needed. This is like a white uh back
[43:57] panel that people place um for various
reason but if it's not needed for that
[44:03] location we'll remove it and that would
be less things for people to tag on. The
[44:08] a few other thing that uh our program is
also uh working on is an audit of the
[44:14] other side of the house
[44:20] at bus stop right now. Um there's two
major player right. Uh one is the
[44:25] shelter over 2,000 of them. The other
one we have over almost 56 5700 bus
[44:33] bench that also require the same
maintenance. So we are auding the other
[44:38] side of the house to see how we can
marriage this and align the way they do
[44:42] things out there so that it's not just
optimizing a shelter and not taking care
[44:47] of the bench contract. And that's
something that we are working on and we
[44:52] will present with you a separate audit
for the bus bench and that would lead to
[44:56] our recommendation also for a renewal or
the uh request of proposal for a new bus
[45:03] bench contract.
And finally, uh we are anticipate to
[45:09] submit to the board for a campaign for
keeping our bus stop clean to help uh uh
[45:15] um you get information out there how to
get our shelter clean and help keep the
[45:18] shelter clean because it's not just a
solution with uh with our contract
[45:23] continue to increase the maintenance but
also community uh buying in and also own
[45:28] that location that's amenity for them.
So we also like to have that campaign
[45:34] and work with you all to sponsor these
and so that we can uh put that out there
[45:38] on our shelter as part of the public
service announcement.
[45:43] Um finally just conclude the maintenance
issue. Uh we understand that a a lot of
[45:48] eyes on bus stop because it's the most
visible and a lot of people stop by it.
[45:53] Um but it is a more broader issue and we
would recommend if uh uh with your
[46:01] leadership to help bring stakeholder
together and we will be at the table to
[46:07] talk about how all the amenity that
under staff program and the bus bench
[46:12] program can support the entirety but uh
we are not the only player at the table.
[46:18] There are a few other that also uh work
at bus stop and we would like to uh
[46:23] under your leadership to bring that uh
cohesiveness across the department and
[46:29] other entity to help address the bus
stop cleanliness issue. And with that I
[46:34] conclude my oral presentation. Um let me
know if you have any question or other
[46:39] uh clarification you would like to hear.
[46:45] » Thank you very much. Um, I have several
questions, but commissioners, uh,
[46:50] Commissioner Mitchell,
>> thank you for your report. Do I
[46:54] understand you say that there's a court
challenge pending
[46:58] » as to the program?
>> Can you repeat
[47:01] » a court challenge pending
>> uh
[47:05] » lawsuit?
>> As far as I know, we don't have any
[47:08] pending.
>> Okay.
[47:09] » All the uh um legal challenge to the
program have been resolved.
[47:15] » Okay. And with regard to these
maintenance repair issues
[47:20] pursuant to the contract is who's
responsible for maintenance of the
[47:24] staff?
>> Uh a contractor named Shelter Clean.
[47:27] They've been in uh and maintain our
shelter over 40 years. So you have some
[47:31] recommendations with regard to because
of the overwhelming need and obviously
[47:37] you mentioned the current contractual
obligation doesn't really address it
[47:42] adequately because of the number of
requests for service right
[47:47] » that's correct uh we do have the list
recommendation that we provide earlier
[47:52] they are more smaller uh recommendation
uh but we like to try all these other
[47:58] thing before revisiting
contract negotiations.
[48:03] » Okay. If if possible, I'd like to be
further briefed on it. Maybe we can
[48:07] discuss some some resolutions. It might
be like you said with regard to any
[48:12] further contracts that we let we might
need to be a little bit more creative
[48:17] about how we address ongoing maintenance
issues. It's kind of hard with graffiti
[48:23] abatement all over graffiti all over the
city in terms of how to prevent it andor
[48:30] act on it sooner given the uh as large
as the city is these issues aren't
[48:37] confined to any particular area. They're
all over so to speak even to the extent
[48:42] that you know even city signs get
graffiti or we with regard to the
[48:46] protest we've had with regard to ice and
those issues we find that you know even
[48:52] the the pavement gets graffiti so
I don't know how to address that maybe
[48:58] we can talk about that further and
develop some ideas and maybe it's also
[49:04] possibility of talking about how other
cities may address similar concerns.
[49:10] Thank you.
>> Thank you,
[49:14] » commissioners. Um I'm happy to ask a
couple questions. So I um I'm a little
[49:21] puzzled by um the findings in your audit
because that is not what I've seen and
[49:28] that is not what I hear. And um I think
all of us here recently got an email
[49:34] from a constituent saying they reported
on January 21. It's been 10 days no
[49:41] change. The first staff that was
installed Western and Olympic
[49:47] that's been heavily graffiti damaged for
over a month. So,
[49:55] you're saying they're going above and
beyond, and I know there are challenges
[50:00] uh um for graffiti and others, but our
in my estimation, I think our graffiti
[50:05] contractors are doing a better job of
removing graffiti when reported most are
[50:12] completed within 48 to 72 hours. um and
staff there's no funding issue because
[50:20] clearly the revenue is there and Transto
is uh an external third party vendor so
[50:26] they're not restricted by many of the
city processes so I'm not sure where um
[50:33] the disconnect is happening um and I'm
sure we'll have further thoughts but in
[50:39] the current contract um what is their um
contractual agreement to visit Is it?
[50:46] How often do they need to visit each
shelter?
[50:50] » So, at minimum uh let me just give you a
quick rundown on this uh number. um
[50:57] regular uh visit on-site visual uh they
have to do at least weekly uh 100% of
[51:05] the time or 100 of the sh uh% of the
shelter hotspot
[51:10] uh all the preventative and regular
maintenance they have to do three time
[51:14] per weeks up to 30%
of the total inventory that we have deep
[51:20] cleaning power washing um and structural
repair they have to you 100%
[51:28] uh at least once per year
uh every six months.
[51:34] » Every six month. Every six month at
least once.
[51:38] So, if you're saying they're visiting
each shelter once a week,
[51:43] clearly they're not visiting um once a
week and we're only at 3
[51:51] and uh 32 shelter constructed with the
goal of 3,000. [snorts]
[51:59] I don't think the graffiti issue is
going anywhere anytime soon. So, I I
[52:03] think this board is very concerned. Um,
I'm sure you heard that the mayor just
[52:08] announced a new clean corridor
initiative on major corridors and these
[52:14] staff shelters are installed on ma many
of these you know major corridors and if
[52:20] you know we're the city is maintaining
our responsibility of cleaning the
[52:25] streets and the sidewalks and the weed
abatement but if the staff shelters
[52:30] are looking like it is today that is
going to be very problematic. So
[52:37] » yeah, um just one one more point of
clarification. Um the 300 is a new one
[52:42] that we put in the we still have over
1,600 of legacy shelter that's still
[52:50] being maintained uh to transition out.
So total we have over 1,800
[52:56] shelter with trash receptacle and many
of those site to still to be maintained.
[53:01] With that though uh we also have the
same kind of input from constituent and
[53:07] various entity about this kind of
maintenance concern. One of the thing
[53:11] that we um express and put in other
budget request in the coming year is to
[53:17] get more eyes and ear to better quality
control the uh contractor. Currently our
[53:25] staff is small and focusing on a lot of
implementation and uh overseeing the
[53:31] service requests uh that coming in and
make sure the contract perform those the
[53:35] quality and the level of service that we
need for them to perform would need
[53:42] additional staff for us to keep an eye
out there. It doesn't have to be all us.
[53:45] It could be other people who help
monitor this constituent um bit who see
[53:50] things we like to see that those
reported to us so we can actually keep
[53:55] these contractor uh and hold them to
their quality of that we expect. So we
[54:03] understand on the uh audit itself it's
based on purely number that uh was
[54:08] reported based on the system that was
generated by the system. How uh the
[54:13] quality of their work at each of these
location we uh request that we have
[54:19] additional staff to help us monitor
these kind of uh uh and manage that
[54:24] activity uh better. So what what would
be are there any penalties or
[54:29] repercussions about not them not meeting
the contractual obligations?
[54:35] » Yes. So there is ability for us to site
them for the first incident that they uh
[54:41] don't meet that obligation is a $200 and
then
[54:44] » how many how much
>> uh $250. Let me just get that number for
[54:47] you. Exactly.
>> Per per site
[54:50] » per incident
>> per incident.
[54:51] » So we report it and they didn't address
it. Right. that's escalate um and we can
[54:57] do as many as so this become hey get it
done right
[55:01] » what if it wasn't reported but they're
not doing their weekly checks
[55:06] » uh the system that they are reporting in
shonet that they are um if the narrative
[55:12] and the what we shown out there isn't uh
aligned
[55:16] we will uh dive deeper into those uh
number as well um and also perform
[55:23] additional internal audit about the uh
quality rather than the number of visit.
[55:30] Um again the process right now because
of staffing uh issue for our bureau we
[55:37] focus on the higher level management of
the program and in order for us to go
[55:41] out there and do more of quality check
spot by spot on a regular basis we uh
[55:46] asked to get more resource and we did
request it as part of the upcoming year
[55:49] budget
>> and anything higher than the 250. Yes.
[55:53] Uh this an escalating cost I can provide
it back to you here. Uh the second
[55:59] incident this increase to additional
cost the third incident. So it's an
[56:04] escalating and will continue until they
address the issue. Um so again I think
[56:09] the the major thing that we can hold
them to the fire is report get more
[56:13] people to report and keep an eye on it
and so that we can um
[56:18] uh see whether they are meeting that
obligation or not and we can use that to
[56:22] help them um change their uh practice.
What would be the the the the most
[56:29] severe penalty that the city can
levy on Transito?
[56:35] » Will be the contract itself,
right? Uh but that's a very um extreme
[56:42] end. Um but uh there is a financial uh
penalty for each incident that can be
[56:49] imposed until resolved and it could be
very significant for a uh contractor
[56:54] that uh optim operating at their um
at the very optimal of their program.
[57:02] Their people are uh working really
really really uh uh stretch forward to
[57:08] make to meet the city need right now. So
it is will be a big penalty if we start
[57:13] issuing those citations.
>> The last question and then I'll have um
[57:18] the commissioners chime in as well is so
after they are reported um how how
[57:24] quickly do they need to respond? What's
the expectation?
[57:28] » So for emergency within 24 hour broken
glass or something like that that you
[57:33] know caused some harm um a car hit it or
something we need to address it and
[57:37] remove the the uh the the the the
challenge out of the way at least
[57:44] mitigate it right. Um we might take some
more time to replace the glass and other
[57:48] thing because it take time to order
those in but uh they have to get someone
[57:52] out there within 24 hour. the uh regular
request uh the obligation for uh the
[57:58] contract is within the week.
>> Within one week, you're saying
[58:03] » one week.
>> One week.
[58:06] » Okay. Um Commissioner uh President Tim
Grant.
[58:15] » That's all. I may have not turned on my
mic. Um, I may have not heard this, but
[58:20] with respect to the scheduled visits,
every site is supposed to be visited
[58:27] weekly.
>> That's right.
[58:29] » Do we have is there a report out of just
because they visit it, do they maintain
[58:36] or clean it or they just I mean it could
just be a driveby with no action taken.
[58:40] So apart from the request where someone
takes the initiative a resident takes
[58:45] the initiative on their own I think what
one aspect we're looking at is what is
[58:49] the obligation responsibility
that transito is taking when they visit
[58:55] every week do we know how many repairs
how many um
[59:00] cleaning up um repairing that they're
doing each week do we get a report
[59:07] » we do um and that's also part of the
audit that was reported out. Um
[59:14] the visit is a primary driver on getting
the eye out there and generate work for
[59:20] location that need uh power washing.
They will be uh creating a a new uh work
[59:26] order for them to go out and and
actually perform those power washing. So
[59:31] um we have the work order creation
associated with each site after that
[59:35] visit.
>> Okay. And
[59:37] » we have those we have those numbers for
each week. How many power washes, how
[59:41] many repairs are being done.
>> That's correct.
[59:44] » And that's where the number that I
report at beginning of the uh
[59:47] presentation came from. The number of
vandalism, the number of graffiti. So
[59:52] those are recorded uh uh as part of that
visit.
[59:55] » And similarly on the hotspots which are
visited three times a week,
[1:00:01] my assumption would be that there are
repairs or washing
[1:00:07] at least one of those three three visits
a week. Correct.
[1:00:11] » Can you repeat?
>> Well, there's the hotspots are visited
[1:00:14] three times a week as I understood.
>> That's correct.
[1:00:18] » And we have report on those of of those
three visits a week for the hotspots.
[1:00:24] What actions been taken on those? Is
that also listed in the audit?
[1:00:29] So similar uh on the regular location
the hotspot get the same type of uh
[1:00:36] treatment um just more frequence uh
trash or empty and any loose debris
[1:00:41] graffiti uh stickers and stuff get
removed right so those uh hotspot is
[1:00:47] increased frequencies
>> and the list of hotspots how is that
[1:00:52] determined and how often is that
updated?
[1:00:55] So the hotspot itself um the list is
determined by the number of work order
[1:01:00] that's get generated
>> by the number of what
[1:01:03] » the work order uh that generated per of
each of these location um the
[1:01:10] rep prioritization or revising that list
it's uh based on adjustment of that work
[1:01:16] order that get generated. Um we uh as
part of this exercise we want to
[1:01:23] incorporate a more thorough way to
prioritize.
[1:01:27] Uh when we consider hotspot it may not
be the same as how they see as hot spot
[1:01:32] for them is just the number of frequency
>> right for us it's also including the
[1:01:36] important of those locations and the uh
uh how uh the cleanliness uh that also
[1:01:43] provide by external
entity at that locations. So again this
[1:01:49] is something that we would like to
revisit oursel in the coming month to
[1:01:52] rep prioritize those hot spot
[1:01:58] » and we happy to share those result.
>> Thank you v uh vice president chavez.
[1:02:05] » Thank you. Um I had some questions about
um just the rate. I know that there has
[1:02:14] been challenges on the installations
with parts procurement, you know,
[1:02:19] delays, um, initial uh, challenges with
um, coordination. Um, how are we today
[1:02:28] in terms of the rate of installations,
the coordination with the, you know,
[1:02:36] internal bureaus and public works, both
BSL and BCA as well as LWP. Are we in a
[1:02:42] good place? And what's our rate of
installation currently?
[1:02:47] » So, um, our current, uh, rate of
installation is roughly around, um, 20,
[1:02:55] uh, or so per month. Um, so about one to
two per day. Um the like I brought up at
[1:03:04] the beginning of the presentation
we know
[1:03:09] what are the landscape of the
implementation are. Now the challenge
[1:03:14] here is within that parameter or that
landscape. How can we make things
[1:03:18] faster?
[1:03:22] The main bottleneck for us right now is
the ability to energize and activate our
[1:03:29] shelter with DGP. And this is a resource
constraint um that uh we
[1:03:36] seeing on a regular basis. We install a
shelter out there that's have no power
[1:03:41] until someone go out there and connect
us to power and in some cases we wait a
[1:03:45] while. Um so that's where uh where we
are in term of that me primary uh
[1:03:52] bottleneck for us is that uh resource uh
constraint to come out and do our
[1:03:58] energization at bus stop.
And are you staff actively working at um
[1:04:05] improving you know whether it's
expediting or um improving the
[1:04:11] coordination or whatever information
that is needed is this more on the LWP
[1:04:16] like permitting side or is this just
what like where is the source of getting
[1:04:23] the approvals I know it's it depends but
>> correct
[1:04:27] » most of them
>> uh to answer your question we are in in
[1:04:31] fact we have a regular check-in with
each of these department every on a
[1:04:35] weekly some case bi-weekly basis and DP
is one of them. Um the uh permitting and
[1:04:42] the review side I think we're at a pace
that we're comfortable to uh move things
[1:04:47] along. Um but the constraint is the
construction crew that need to go out
[1:04:54] there and actually connect us to power
or um you know um create a new service
[1:05:00] location for our program. So it's more
of the field side that is concerned and
[1:05:05] this is something that we understand
that there are other demand on their on
[1:05:10] them across the city. They are not only
supporting staff program. So they are uh
[1:05:15] doing what they can uh in term of
process it's an ongoing thing and we uh
[1:05:20] have there at the table with us to
figure out the challenge but again I
[1:05:24] think this is bottom line is resource um
to how we can bring more shelter online
[1:05:31] each day we don't energize we lose money
right and bus stop will be less safe
[1:05:40] how can we bring our bus stop priority
above of uh some of the other um it's a
[1:05:46] significant loss and we won't get it
back. Once you lose that advertisement
[1:05:51] window, you're not going to regain that
money back for the city.
[1:05:55] » So, what's the plan to address that?
>> So,
[1:05:59] uh we've been uh in active communication
with EDP to see uh the commitment that
[1:06:05] they uh are willing to um go out there
and address on a weekly basis. um 10 to
[1:06:12] 12 location per weeks. We are um not
seeing that number yet for various
[1:06:18] reason. Maybe there are you know a rain
events or um other uh uh holiday issue.
[1:06:26] We have not seen the 10 or 12 that we
were expecting and that's become a main
[1:06:31] bottleneck for our program.
[1:06:35] And so and so the bottleneck on the
utility coordination I understand that
[1:06:41] um is not necessarily revenue funded but
the positions at street services and
[1:06:48] street lighting are correct NBCA as well
right there's they're basically it's
[1:06:52] this unique model where we're
specifically have identified positions
[1:06:57] and funding to to um cover the cost of
that work because this is revenue
[1:07:03] generating for the city. Um, have there
have there been or do you expect any
[1:07:10] future impacts to those staffing levels
given the budget situation? Have you
[1:07:17] heard of any potential issues
um coming down the frey so that we know
[1:07:23] uh because again these are revenue
funded. They're not special funded per
[1:07:27] se, but they're revenue fund. They're
revenue generating positions. So I want
[1:07:31] to make sure that um wanted to hear from
you if there's any concerns on the
[1:07:36] budgeting side.
>> The projected staff revenue is uh like I
[1:07:42] reported it's continue to look positive
and stable moving forward. Uh at the
[1:07:48] very least we can uh sustain the the
existing staff that is funded right for
[1:07:53] BCA, BSL and uh BCA BSS. Um but again
the uh constraint of other department
[1:08:04] that is not funded by our revenue is
where we run into issue. We don't fund
[1:08:09] them and we don't control that pace. Um
but our revenue on our side it continue
[1:08:15] to uh
be positive and look like the trend is
[1:08:20] growing. So we don't see that as an
issue. Where that become an issue is as
[1:08:25] the program uh grow we need to install
more site the capital for those are
[1:08:30] taking from the same bucket of money and
so that's where uh as the trends grow we
[1:08:36] like to also uh uh do more site um based
on those uh revenue increase um but we
[1:08:44] don't anticipate seeing the the the uh
funding for that part uh decreasing. Uh
[1:08:50] we also seeing a lot of interest in
grant developer and metro specifically
[1:08:56] to invest into uh bus stop
infrastructure.
[1:09:00] Um in fact uh in next few weeks I'll be
coming before the board asking for
[1:09:07] authorization to execute part of year
two of our agreement with Metro which is
[1:09:13] worth around $16 million that Metro will
be investing into staff program. So in
[1:09:18] term of funding I don't anticipate that
we have uh that major uh challenge
[1:09:24] moving forward but I think the pace and
the control of the installation will
[1:09:28] become a major issue for at least the
the folk outside the the department the
[1:09:34] the sphere influenced by the staff
program.
[1:09:37] » Okay. And then shifting over to
maintenance, your your report talks
[1:09:42] about um
the obviously the overwhelming
[1:09:47] maintenance demands that were not
foreseen when we issued the contract. Um
[1:09:53] but obviously it's a new day and we're
seeing increases
[1:09:59] um of dramatic proportions that that we
haven't seen in a long time. I see that
[1:10:05] um the contractor did submit a plan in
October
[1:10:12] outlining data driven strategies um and
reallocating maintenance resources. Have
[1:10:17] any of these been implemented?
>> So the uh reason why we Oh, so we have
[1:10:23] implemented one of the um back panel
removal at Saba Pacific site. The reason
[1:10:29] why we uh are taking a slower action is
because we need to justify each of these
[1:10:36] actions because we are taking a certain
maintenance activity for location and
[1:10:40] put it somewhere else. We need to be uh
uh make sure that we do a systematic and
[1:10:45] show that this actually doesn't have a
negative impact on the location that
[1:10:49] getting less right. That's why we create
wanted to make sure we create a
[1:10:53] structure to actually review each of
these location each of these action so
[1:10:58] that we don't uh um just broadly put out
a lot of these initiative without
[1:11:04] monitoring and seeing result before we
put it out citywide. So the one that I'm
[1:11:10] uh bringing uh a talk about today is the
back panel removal, right? We uh working
[1:11:16] on a few uh removal to see how would
that work first. Did that uh removing
[1:11:21] that panel actually uh lessen the
graffiti or people simply put the
[1:11:28] graffiti on another part of the shelter?
So we want to study and make sure that
[1:11:32] we're not just implement a solution
citywide without having a thought and a
[1:11:36] a a process to review whether something
is uh working effectively or not. So uh
[1:11:43] that's where it take us a time to uh
develop that process and see make sure
[1:11:46] that these uh uh approach that we that
proposed are roll out in a methodical
[1:11:52] methodical uh fashions. Um but again we
are uh at that phase that we are able to
[1:11:59] see more of those roll out um of these
solution that proposed by the the the
[1:12:04] contractor because we have the uh
process in place now. So you'll see um
[1:12:10] few location here with shelter back
panel remove the location hotspot that
[1:12:15] get shift around and monitor the
effectiveness of this. So um again we at
[1:12:19] that stage where we can start seeing a
lot of those improvement.
[1:12:23] Okay. Can you include in the next update
more detail about what's been
[1:12:28] implemented and when and what the, you
know, what the data shows in terms of
[1:12:33] has this been effective or not? Because
if this was submitted in October, now
[1:12:37] we're in February and you're um waiting
to justify I'm still unclear by whom. Um
[1:12:45] and then you're testing certain
thing ideas right now. Is that is that
[1:12:50] correct? Are you in the process of
testing certain things? That's correct.
[1:12:54] So let me give you just a quick example.
>> Back panel. It's simple, right? Just
[1:12:58] remove it.
>> But uh we are looking at a parameter on
[1:13:02] what criteria should we select to remove
those back panel because there are uh if
[1:13:07] it's behind a gas station that could use
it for a barrier against um traffic. So
[1:13:12] there all criteria need to be created to
see hey what is a a list of location
[1:13:18] that we can test out without um have
major impact but also measuring what is
[1:13:23] success look like
uh decrease by 5% is that effective or
[1:13:29] increase by 50%. So that kind of a
success uh matrix we know that this is
[1:13:35] uh something that we should be um
execute uh as fast as we can as well. Uh
[1:13:40] but we want to do it methodically so
that we don't uh uh roll this out
[1:13:44] citywide and seeing a bigger uh um uh
blowback on the the the new solutions. I
[1:13:53] mean, I know we tend to address the
symptoms as as opposed to the root
[1:13:58] causes of vandalism and dumping and
graffiti. Um,
[1:14:06] but I'm just curious if if what if any
coordination currently exists with LAPD
[1:14:11] or sanitation or homeless outreach teams
or office of community beautifification,
[1:14:17] graffiti abatement teams. Are you
sharing is this information being
[1:14:20] shared? Like for example, if there's a
serious um issue, you know, at a
[1:14:26] shelter, I would hope that that's being
reported. Uh it's a public safety item,
[1:14:31] but I just think information sharing,
especially hotspots, is that being
[1:14:35] actively shared with with with
other departments.
[1:14:40] » So for the uh uh trash receptacle,
that's the one of primary one that we
[1:14:45] coordinate with.
>> I'm sorry, what?
[1:14:46] » Trash receptacle.
>> Oh, trash recept. Yeah.
[1:14:48] » Yeah. This is the one that we primary
coordinate a lot with sanitations and so
[1:14:52] uh sanitation uh actually getting a lot
of their um
[1:14:57] requests uh and routed to our program
when it is on our shelter or on our
[1:15:01] bench. So that coordination happened
during the service request stage
[1:15:08] and where I think we uh need to take a
step further is actually identify site
[1:15:12] that need more
of those trash receptacle cleanliness of
[1:15:18] this area need an increase whether that
from that from the staff uh program or
[1:15:22] the bus program or sanitation right I
think that's there's a gap that we can
[1:15:26] improve there um the uh other discussion
around LAPD uh this something that is an
[1:15:33] ongoing uh issue. We have repeated
location that have
[1:15:38] vandalism, breaking glasses, same
location and this is uh uh with the
[1:15:43] support from LAPD. We report those uh to
make sure it get into a record so that
[1:15:49] uh further investigation and track down
on uh perpetrator
[1:15:54] uh in term of graffiti abatement with
OCB and other this is an area also that
[1:16:00] we wanted to bring all the pieces
together. Um as I mentioned at the
[1:16:05] beginning of the uh or report we um our
bureau uh and our program will continue
[1:16:10] to optimize the way bus stop with our
amenity uh uh maintains. Uh but again
[1:16:17] we're not the only one. uh if we uh you
know continue uh have
[1:16:23] conversation and with your leadership to
bring a lot of these energy to the table
[1:16:28] would really appreciate and bring our uh
solution more holistic rather than just
[1:16:33] individual location or individual
program that have a certain
[1:16:39] stake at bus stop. So yes um I agree
that's the next uh uh piece that we uh
[1:16:46] would be interested in continue that
conversation with other identity other
[1:16:49] agency to uh improve that uh quality of
service.
[1:16:55] » Okay. So I mean I would recommend we put
together a working group with um all the
[1:17:01] affected entities. I want LA sanitation
there. I want OCB there and their
[1:17:06] contractors. Um we need someone from
LAPD. I think that um and you know also
[1:17:12] the homeless outreach teams. I think
that this is I've seen a lot of camping
[1:17:16] at staff locations. Um I think we need
to sort of address sort of deterrence
[1:17:25] um deterrence. Uh I know a novel
concept. Um things like you know
[1:17:31] enhanced cameras, lighting, extra
lighting. You know are there street
[1:17:36] lights out? I bet you there are near
these locations. Um and so just have a
[1:17:41] better coordinated um method of
addressing some of these issues because
[1:17:47] as you said there might be graffiti and
vandalism happening at that loc shelter
[1:17:52] but I guarantee you there's other
activity happening in that area and I
[1:17:57] think if everyone is on notice everyone
who's doing work in that vicinity is on
[1:18:03] notice that there's extra eyes and ears
on it there can be better communication
[1:18:08] um to address and
deter some of this um activity and make
[1:18:12] it safer for the people that are riding
transit.
[1:18:17] » Appreciate that. And your leadership
will be uh uh very much uh uh needed for
[1:18:23] uh bring the conversation together and
we'll uh bring all the contractor and
[1:18:28] making sure that they are uh by the
contractual obligation and even beyond.
[1:18:33] So um thank you for your leadership for
that.
[1:18:39] Thank you very much, Commissioner
Cartness. Uh,
[1:18:41] » yeah, thank you. Just going back
[clears throat] to the citations or the
[1:18:46] infractions,
um, how many locations have had a first,
[1:18:51] second, or even a third infraction
imposed because they didn't they didn't
[1:18:55] complete the work or or didn't
satisfactory
[1:18:58] um, hold hold up their end of the of the
contract.
[1:19:01] » Uh, we have not issued any citations. Um
and uh so from uh
[1:19:09] we again we have not issued any of those
uh infractional citation for not meeting
[1:19:14] the quality of and the contractual
obligations because uh again the data
[1:19:19] has shown that they have u meet those
obligations.
[1:19:24] » So they met their obligations
self-reported met their obligations.
[1:19:29] So, I mean, based on the information
that we're getting from from the
[1:19:34] community, it looks like locations
haven't been meeting those obligations.
[1:19:37] So, I find it um you know, both things
can't be true. So, something something's
[1:19:43] going on here. And moving on to to the
construction, you were saying there's
[1:19:48] approximately 20 plus locations per
month that are [snorts] slated or
[1:19:54] scheduled for installation. Is that was
that the right number I was listening
[1:19:58] to?
>> Uh yeah, monthto month is
[1:20:01] » roughly 20 plus.
>> Um so but some of those aren't getting
[1:20:05] the power installations that are needed
and like you're saying because there's
[1:20:09] no power the city's not getting their
revenue but we're just continuing on to
[1:20:13] the next month and starting another 20.
So what what's the you know if if if the
[1:20:17] first month isn't getting completed and
you and you're working on the second
[1:20:20] month what's [snorts] the backlog on the
power installations that are
[1:20:24] accumulating uh you know you know say
when you get to month number three
[1:20:31] » right uh but I just want to also uh they
are doing some not at the rate that
[1:20:37] » no that's exactly they're doing some
which means they're not doing others and
[1:20:41] the ones that are not being done are
still not done and we're going on the
[1:20:44] next month and building another 20. Not
all of the 20 are power uh have power
[1:20:50] requirements, but that number isn't
getting smaller. It's getting bigger in
[1:20:53] terms of the backlog of the of the power
that's being installed. Is that what I'm
[1:20:58] hearing?
>> That's correct. Uh right now we balloon
[1:21:00] to roughly 20 30 locations of uh
location that need some sort of actions
[1:21:07] uh either connect to power or pull new
service point. So, does it make sense to
[1:21:12] continue doing power locations if the
power backlog I mean, would it make
[1:21:16] sense to go ahead and just install the
ones that don't require power until the
[1:21:19] backlog is completed? That way, you
don't you're not you're the number of
[1:21:23] locations you have to go back to to
complete isn't getting bigger. Does is
[1:21:27] that logical or does that make sense or
were you thinking about anything like
[1:21:30] that? the uh even if we don't have power
uh for location that uh do sidewalk
[1:21:38] construction and uh transit shelter is
still providing that benefit of um shade
[1:21:43] and advertisement during the day.
>> Understood. But that but what you were
[1:21:47] saying but what we were saying earlier
is the the city wasn't benefiting from
[1:21:51] the advertisement right
>> for location that is digital for
[1:21:56] location
>> for the digital
[1:21:57] » digital because you splat screen in the
cases where we have uh um uh the static
[1:22:02] the poster one those during the day can
be seen just not at night
[1:22:06] » correct correct okay so just curious on
how that's how that's working um what's
[1:22:13] the number of you said there was rough
roughly 1400 existing shelters.
[1:22:19] » 1,600.
>> 1600. Thank you. So, what's the what's
[1:22:22] the number or percentage of locations
that are considered on the hot hotspot
[1:22:27] list? Do you know what that number is?
>> So, 30% of the 1,800
[1:22:33] » approximately or 30% are are
>> uh currently slightly lower. Uh but
[1:22:39] we're working to bring that back up to
30% uh of the contractual obligation.
[1:22:44] the number could uh you know enter and
exit. So this flux throughout uh each on
[1:22:49] a regular basis but we try to get that
sailing
[1:22:53] » understood trying to do it but the say
we install another 300 locations
[1:22:59] and all 300 of those are hotspot
locations. So the percent of the percent
[1:23:04] of hotspots are going to go up. Right?
So it's not a it's not a it's not a it's
[1:23:09] not a static number. it is what it is in
terms of hot hotspot locations of of
[1:23:14] locations that have to be monitored on a
regular basis and and and and need more
[1:23:19] more attention. So, is that um how do we
how are we going to figure that out? I
[1:23:25] mean, when we're when when the locations
are being uh reviewed prior to
[1:23:30] construction, are we looking at the
amount of graffiti in the area or the
[1:23:34] amount of activity, homeless activity
that's going on in the area? what what
[1:23:38] what goes into that that discussion pre
preconstruction to figure out okay we
[1:23:45] know this is going to be a hot spot and
and the contractor is going to know day
[1:23:49] one it's going to be a hot spot is that
is that the communication that that's
[1:23:53] that's happening with with our vendor
>> the current process that hotspot
[1:23:58] identification happened after
>> can't hear you
[1:24:00] » the current process uh the hotspot
identification happened after
[1:24:06] » understood but Can you agree that some
locations, you know, it's going to be a
[1:24:10] hot spot?
>> We can. Again, it's up to us to
[1:24:12] establish criteria and when we input
this uh location into the hotspot list.
[1:24:18] » So, so day one, day one, they're going
to know, you know what, this this one's
[1:24:22] going to be a problem. We got to stay on
top of it.
[1:24:24] » That's correct. we can and uh I I think
that's a great suggestion for us to uh
[1:24:30] take 311 and other graffiti uh vandalism
information to our design process and
[1:24:36] the construction process so that we
could uh um on day one have that as part
[1:24:42] of this.
>> So 30% every uh three of them that we
[1:24:47] put in one of them could be hotspot.
>> Okay. Well, I I see you this this is a
[1:24:52] great program. I don't want to be all
negative but we have to understand that
[1:24:55] once we we increase our numbers and and
we get up to the additional 1400 plus or
[1:25:02] 1300 plus when we we complete the 3,000
uh locations.
[1:25:07] » Um we need to really have a good
understanding of how we're going to
[1:25:10] maintain these because buildings
buildings one thing maintenance never
[1:25:13] ends. So, we need to make sure that
we're on top of that and and that we do
[1:25:16] it successfully so that the the city can
benefit, you know,
[1:25:21] as much as they can and still keep these
uh locations for the public accessible
[1:25:26] and and safe. So, I look forward to
seeing what our plan is going forward.
[1:25:30] Thanks.
>> Thank you.
[1:25:34] » Thank you very much. Any last minute
comments or questions, commissioners?
[1:25:37] » Yes. Is it possible to get a copy of the
report?
[1:25:41] C
>> can you repeat? Do you have a report
[1:25:44] sent to all the commissioners so we can
actually review it and if we have some
[1:25:48] further questions or comments we can
direct them directly to you.
[1:25:52] » A report for the uh
>> is there an audit report?
[1:25:56] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:25:58] » Yeah, we can definitely share this is a
copyright.
[1:26:00] » Okay. We just want you to make it
available to the commissioners through
[1:26:03] the executive officer.
>> Yes. Uh we can share this after the
[1:26:06] meeting.
>> Thank you.
[1:26:09] » All right. Any other last minute
questions or comments? So, we would uh
[1:26:14] given the urgency of the item, I would
love to I would like to reschedu um uh
[1:26:20] for you to come back sooner than later.
So, uh we'll coordinate with our
[1:26:26] executive officer and our team to
schedule another briefing in the next
[1:26:30] couple of weeks uh to follow up. Um with
that, thank you very much.
[1:26:35] » Thank you.
I believe that concludes our items for
[1:26:40] today. All right. Thank you very much.
Our next regular meeting of the board of
[1:26:44] public works will be on Friday, February
6, 2026. The meeting is now adjourned at
[1:26:51] 11:08 a.m.