1 00:00:09,940 --> 00:00:11,940 Clerk will call the roll. 2 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:45,940 Condon, Doc Andrew, D. Maria, Kenan, Matheson, Murphy, O'Malley, Sica, Spatafora, Crow. 3 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:52,860 And just a program you know, usually we do not have the council, I mean the committee of 4 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:58,100 the whole televised, but we thought it was important so everybody gets the update on the 5 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:04,140 baseball field of dreams information that was promised so we do have them here tonight. 6 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,060 So, thank you. 7 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,040 All right. 8 00:01:06,220 --> 00:01:07,300 First order of a business. 9 00:01:09,890 --> 00:01:14,990 The mayor and Deborah Burke of the Mallon Redevelopment Authority will be here to update 10 00:01:14,990 --> 00:01:16,510 us on field of dreams. 11 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:30,260 Thank you, Madam President, members of the City Council. As we discussed in December, we stated 12 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:37,060 that we would back on Tuesday, February 7th to provide an update to you on the project. 13 00:01:37,420 --> 00:01:43,200 And so what I'd like to do now is turn it over to Alex Bocke and then let him update you 14 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,720 and then we can take questions and answers after that. 15 00:01:50,030 --> 00:01:50,690 Thank you, Mr. Bocke. 16 00:01:50,690 --> 00:01:58,650 welcome. Thank you. Let's see if we get this. Mr. Mayor, thank you. Madam President, members of the 17 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:04,990 Council. My name is Alexander Bach, and I'm the founder of Maldon Baseball Field of Dreams, 18 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:11,010 our offices are on Pleasant Street. I'm here to provide you with an update on the status of the 19 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:17,710 proposed project. I'd like to start with one of the elephants in the room. I know a number of 20 00:02:17,710 --> 00:02:23,590 have been skeptical about this project, given the long time it has taken and been under consideration. 21 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:30,650 And I'm here to tell you that you're right to have had those questions given the lack of a visible public process. 22 00:02:31,570 --> 00:02:39,230 I'm sorry that happened, but unfortunately it was necessary under the rules of minor league baseball, as I will explain in a moment. 23 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:47,690 Tonight I'm here to start the process of earning your trust, and to give you comfort through details that this is a real project. 24 00:02:47,690 --> 00:02:53,550 with the team of experts on our side that now has a chance of happening, and we believe 25 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:59,150 more strongly than ever that the project will bring economic development, new jobs, and 26 00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:05,450 opportunities for Maldon's youth. Most importantly, and I cannot overstate its importance, 27 00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:10,650 as you heard from the mayor in December, our group Maldon baseball field of dreams had secured 28 00:03:10,650 --> 00:03:16,870 in November the right to explore having an affiliated minor league team here in Maldon. This came 29 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:20,550 about after literally years of on and off discussion with 30 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:23,970 minor league baseball and its many constituents. 31 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:29,190 Obtaining the rights to explore the Maldon Territory for an 32 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:33,390 affiliated team has permitted us to reach out to third parties 33 00:03:33,390 --> 00:03:37,370 including team owners with whom we've had discussions and 34 00:03:37,370 --> 00:03:40,950 will continue to do so within the framework of minor league baseball's rules. 35 00:03:41,690 --> 00:03:44,910 We remain in contact with minor league baseball on our progress. 36 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:53,370 This is a affiliated team opportunity, is a truly a game changer, and sets molded on the path 37 00:03:53,370 --> 00:03:58,770 becoming only the second city in Massachusetts with an affiliated minor league team, the other being 38 00:03:58,770 --> 00:03:59,550 wool. 39 00:04:00,870 --> 00:04:06,130 The benefits of having an affiliated team rather than a team from an independent league, which 40 00:04:06,130 --> 00:04:11,710 was the original proposal when this process began, are many and substantial. 41 00:04:12,650 --> 00:04:23,310 But you can affiliate a team means that there is a player development contract with one of the 30 major league teams, the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Giants, etc. 42 00:04:23,950 --> 00:04:32,670 And those major league teams then supply players, prospects, a manager, coaches to the minor league team, and return for a percentage of the revenues. 43 00:04:32,670 --> 00:04:34,170 That's how it works. 44 00:04:34,470 --> 00:04:36,590 All the players who play for the POSOX, Portland, 45 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:39,230 will or all employees of Fenway Park, actually. 46 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:40,930 They get their paycheck from Fenway Park. 47 00:04:41,230 --> 00:04:42,830 They pay their workers' comp to Fenway Park. 48 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:45,030 And the owners of those teams pay a percentage 49 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:47,490 of their revenue to the major league baseball 50 00:04:47,490 --> 00:04:48,550 who then distributes them. 51 00:04:49,010 --> 00:04:51,910 So the players who play in a affiliate baseball 52 00:04:51,910 --> 00:04:53,930 work for a major league team. 53 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:57,670 Unlike independent league baseball, however, 54 00:04:57,990 --> 00:05:00,590 it's not unusual for many of the players on a affiliated 55 00:05:00,590 --> 00:05:04,230 minor league team to later play in the major leagues. 56 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:11,970 Our plan remains to build a ballpark with approximate capacity of 6,000 seats that meets minor league baseball requirements. 57 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:16,990 We believe the Maldon market will certainly support that size of a facility. 58 00:05:18,910 --> 00:05:23,750 For those who are skeptical about the viability of a minor league team here in Maldon, let me make several points. 59 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:31,650 First, no affiliated minor league team anywhere in the country has gone out of business in the last 30 years. 60 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:37,930 Independent baseball has a number of major success stories along Island Team, St. Paul, for example. 61 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:41,830 But it also has had a number of failures including Lynn, Brockton, and Worcester. 62 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:48,850 An affiliated team in Maldon near the orange line with great parking is in a much better location and strong 63 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:54,490 economic situation in those other teams were, and fundamentally the players are players who 64 00:05:54,490 --> 00:05:58,350 most to which will end up in the major leagues and has a greater fan interest. 65 00:05:59,810 --> 00:06:04,690 Secondly, the greater Boston market is a baseball-focused market where there are 66 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:11,010 thousands of families seeking affordable family entertainment. Interestingly, one of the most 67 00:06:11,010 --> 00:06:16,210 successful affiliated teams in the country is in Frisco, Texas, which is in the Dallas Fort 68 00:06:16,210 --> 00:06:17,210 with metro region. 69 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:21,610 The market not known as a baseball market, but as a major football market. 70 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:32,600 The, in addition, is interesting, March, in New York City, itself, about 15 years ago, 71 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 New York City now has two affiliated minor league teams in Brooklyn and Staten Island, 72 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:38,840 and those teams have done very well. 73 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:45,520 It's the financial stability of having an affiliated team that allows the project to go forward 74 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,580 and be financeable. 75 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:53,740 Interestingly, just to give an example of, from a financing and debt perspective, bankers 76 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:58,240 want an assurance that your league will be around in 25 years, that once you have the right 77 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,420 to have a team here that right stays forever, but you have to have, you have to have a ballpark 78 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:07,520 and you have to have the assurance that you'll have the revenue to pay off the debt. 79 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,800 No minor league team has failed on that, has failed, and that's why the bankers are willing 80 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,920 to finance a project. 81 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,080 And why interestingly for instance, there's not a the soccer team did not end up in a assembly square 82 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,100 because of the city of summerville was interested in building the stadium. 83 00:07:23,660 --> 00:07:25,900 Then the soccer team would have paid the debt. 84 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,860 But apparently if the league, major league soccer went out of business, 85 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:34,000 summerville appropriately wanted the owner to be responsible for the debt 86 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,900 and the revolution owners, the crafts were not willing to take that responsibility. 87 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,440 having a league, as minor league baseball has, where it has been around, none of them have gone 88 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,720 under, is what allows us to be a financial project using private money, and that's what makes this 89 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:56,520 achievable. Should also note that this project, the projects take a very long time. Both at Huntington Park 90 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,380 in Columbus, Ohio, which is a Triple A Park, and at Fifth Third Park in Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is a 91 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:04,260 single A Park, and they're considered two of the better parks in minor league baseball. 92 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:07,520 The 93 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,840 project timetable and how it took over 10 years from the first idea to the first pitch. 94 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:17,660 The request for proposals for this project was issued by the Maldon Redevelopment Authority 95 00:08:18,170 --> 00:08:18,960 in 2011. 96 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,300 Most importantly, I would ask that you see and evaluate this ballpark, not primarily as 97 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:32,340 a sports venue, but as a venue for affordable family entertainment that will serve the residents 98 00:08:32,890 --> 00:08:35,220 and families of Maldon for decades to come. 99 00:08:35,220 --> 00:08:40,780 A family of four will be able to come to the Maldon Ball Park by four tickets, food, drinks, 100 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:42,940 and parking, and spend under $100. 101 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,900 It is important to note, as you saw in the letter from a minor league baseball in November, 102 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,920 that the rules and regulations of minor league baseball prevent at this time any speculation 103 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:04,320 or a discussion by anyone from our group about details on what team or league or affiliation 104 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,740 could be in Maldon. But the fact, the go ahead was given by minor league baseball is crucial 105 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:14,680 to the project moving forward. These same rules, unfortunately, have kept our group from 106 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:21,780 discussing our efforts publicly over the past few years. And I cannot overstate where very 107 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:26,400 sorry for the lack of communication around that, but discussing affiliated baseball, why we 108 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,980 were applying for the right. If it had ended up in the press would have endangered the entire 109 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:32,600 project. 110 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Minor League Baseball is very concerned about people who've gone into cities, said I'm going 111 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:41,580 to bring in a affiliated team, been paid money, has helped build a stadium and then there's 112 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:42,080 no team. 113 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,600 So they're very fierce if you suggest that you're getting a affiliated team and talk about 114 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,900 it without their permission, people have had people been banned for life from being owners 115 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:52,620 and being involved. 116 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:58,320 So the thing that's unusual about Minor League Baseball, as part of the whole baseball world, 117 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,340 it's the only business that will ever come before you. 118 00:10:00,340 --> 00:10:02,080 that is exempt from the antitrust statute. 119 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:04,920 Congress and the Supreme Court have decided 120 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,140 that the baseball is not subject to the monopoly laws. 121 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:10,300 They can decide how to run their business the way they want to 122 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:12,860 without any of the rules that would apply to any other business. 123 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,800 So you have to live with their rules or you aren't in their system. 124 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:19,100 So that's why we're, that's the reality we live in. 125 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,660 To get to where we are now has been a highly complicated process. 126 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:25,480 Thanks to the mayor and the MRA director, 127 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:33,100 Along with Maldon's own U.S. Senator Ed Markey, and Save Representative Paul Denado, we thank them for all they have done. 128 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,260 These public officials, in addition to their federal and state colleagues, have worked very hard. 129 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:43,560 And as a result, we are now in the process of securing the team, and aiming to break ground later this year. 130 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:53,540 Furthermore, we would not be before you but for the continued attention dedication of many Maldon residents and local elected officials and city workers, 131 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:58,700 including many of you here and people in the room who participate in our first 132 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:03,040 public hearing in 2012 and help shape and improve the project through a public 133 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,620 advisory committee that year. 134 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,060 For those of you both you and folks who are watching, we want more information. 135 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:13,300 We'd encourage you to go to our website, Maldonballpark.com. 136 00:11:13,820 --> 00:11:17,720 Click on the FAQ section to see the video from the 2012 hearing, 137 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:21,320 which is broken into specific sections if you want to see about specific subjects, 138 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:28,660 traffic financing, the variety of issues, stadium design, and also see our most recent renderings. 139 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:40,040 We would suggest that we would love to come back on Tuesday, April 11th, subject to 140 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,220 your schedule and what you would want to provide a further update. In addition, we expect 141 00:11:45,220 --> 00:11:50,120 that we'll be back here or wherever a public meeting might be held later in the spring, where 142 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:56,100 will bring our full team of experts for questioning as we finalize the details of the project. 143 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,400 But the project is in final until you hear it all and have a chance to ask questions 144 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,000 in vote on it. 145 00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:06,840 Final approvals and reviews by all parties, including the City Council, the mayor, the MRA, 146 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:13,120 State Government, National Grid, investors, the banks, minor league baseball, other affiliated 147 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,260 teams, all of their approvals will be based on the specifics of the final project proposal. 148 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:27,060 While working with minor league baseball, we've also been working with the Boston City Football Club, which is a division for soccer team within the United States soccer system. 149 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,200 We have successfully adapted the design of the ballpark to enable a soccer playing field that meets international FIFA standards. 150 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:48,060 As a result, there's now an executed letter of intent that the ballpark will be used for the club's youth training programs, and the Boston City Football Club will play its 10 to 14 home games at the ballpark. 151 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:55,480 primarily on Sunday evenings with the games ending by 9 p.m., and occasional exhibition games on other nights. 152 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Financially, we're pleased to, please, at both Eastern Bank and East Boston Savings Bank, have indicated their continued strong interest in funding that proposed ballpark. 153 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,100 Private investment in the project through equity and debt is estimated at about $60 million. 154 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:18,700 The project will be union-built, we've selected Turner Consort Sports Construction as our contractor. 155 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Turner is the leading sports construction company in the United States. 156 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,080 It has built many of the leading major league in minor league ball parks. 157 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,540 Over the last 10 years, they built the New Yankee Stadium, National Park, 158 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:34,360 the Riggly Field expansion, fifth-third park, the home of the Toledo Mudhens, 159 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,460 Huntington Park and Columbus, all of which have won best stadium of the year awards. 160 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:41,560 Turner is a very good firm. 161 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,500 They're one of the leading firms in Boston by itself, 162 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,280 but they have the best sports group in the country. 163 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:49,000 Another significant issue, 164 00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:52,080 question, and we hear very clearly, 165 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,820 is the issue of the three adjacent parcels. 166 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,320 Now that we have had the formal permission 167 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,100 for minor league baseball to move forward, 168 00:14:01,220 --> 00:14:03,580 we're working towards the private purchase 169 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:08,240 of the budding parcel owners property owners parcels. 170 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:14,680 Specifically, we've retained Robert LePort of Colliers International to appraise the three adjacent parcels. 171 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,300 Mr. LePort is one of the leading real estate appraisers in Greater Boston. 172 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Colliers will be providing us with a current market value appraisal, 173 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:29,300 which does not include any deduction for potential environmental cleanup costs. 174 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:34,460 We will provide full market value offers, 175 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:42,500 which include a premium teach of the property owners by February 17th, along with a request to meet in person before the end of the month. 176 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,800 We will do everything we can to negotiate private transactions here. 177 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:53,460 We've also reached out to National Grid as the owner of the largest parcel on the site, 178 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:59,760 and will soon and will meet soon to restart our previous negotiations and review the expired 2012. 179 00:14:59,760 --> 00:14:59,860 as well. 180 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:07,740 1226 page letter of intent between our group, National Grid, the MRA, and that served effectively as a lease agreement. 181 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,600 It was, in terms of a lease, or in that letter of intent. 182 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,200 As others have noted, minor league baseball will not only offer an affordable family entertainment option, 183 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,760 but will promote Maldon to families and businesses throughout the Commonwealth. 184 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:27,480 And bring significant economic benefit to Maldon's many outstanding restaurants and other local businesses. 185 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:38,320 The placement of a ballpark, year-round restaurant, related meeting facilities, is an optimal way of putting this environmentally sensitive parcel to use for the community's benefit. 186 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:43,300 We expect a host, concerts, movies, festivals, weddings, and other community events. 187 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:52,340 The ballpark project will complement and spur the larger economic development that has been occurring in the downtown area, and assist with the revitalization of Maldon Square. 188 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,840 We are hopeful that a hotel in the immediate area could be the result of our future economic 189 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,980 activity, but that effort will not delay our work on the ballpark. 190 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:10,140 With respect to your round activity on the side, I'd also like to announce we're planning 191 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:15,000 to have a bubble over the playing field, not the seats from late November to March. 192 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:20,740 This is not a dome ballpark, it will look just like a regular, minor late ballpark during 193 00:16:20,740 --> 00:16:24,620 the season, but the bubble is over the field, not the seeds. 194 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,240 It's very similar to what you see if you drive by, it's sometime in the next month by 195 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,700 either Harvard Stadium or Boston College's alumni field. 196 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:36,400 Both of those stadiums have, with the same vendor we're working with, have a bubble over 197 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,220 the field, not the seeds, so that it can feel can be used during the winter. 198 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,020 And we are, that's what we are, the bubble would make it possible for soccer, will cross, 199 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:49,440 and baseball teams to rent, play, and practice in the winter months. 200 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,460 The bubble would cover the entire playing field, allowing full scrimmages for baseball teams. 201 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600 We've had significant interest in college baseball teams in the area, 202 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:02,540 who believe that being able to use such a practice facility in the winter 203 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:07,680 would dramatically improve their teams and allow them to recruit a wider range of student athletes. 204 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:13,940 There is a similar facility in Flemington, New Jersey, called Health Quest Sports Dome. 205 00:17:13,940 --> 00:17:18,060 If you Google it you'll find pictures of it, we will provide pictures when we come the next time. 206 00:17:18,460 --> 00:17:23,600 No such facilities exist in New England, and the additional cost of the dome will be paid by the rental fees. 207 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,360 And it will help add to a year-round use. 208 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:30,120 items I want to mention that are unchanged from before. 209 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:36,580 We're not seeking bonding authority or financial assistance from for construction from the city of Maldon. 210 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:43,060 The Maldon High-Golden tornado's varsity baseball team will be able to play its regular season home games at the ballpark. 211 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:53,980 The city of Maldon High School will be able to use the facility for school athletic community activities, such as graduation, celebrations, alumni events, using a discounted fee schedule. 212 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Maldon baseball field dreams will voluntarily comply with a Maldon vocal hiring ordinance and make a concerted effort to hire local residents for the construction jobs. 213 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,420 They will be over 100 part time jobs at the ballpark during the baseball season with priority given to Maldon residents. 214 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,500 Each home team will provide an opportunity for a youth group or other non-profit group to raise money, for example, 215 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:26,200 50, 50 raffle selling the programs, and there will be a community-wide contest to name the team during 2018. 216 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't remind you of the very important family and community building opportunity at the ballpark, 217 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,380 and minor league baseball will bring them all in. 218 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Not only will ballpark provide an opportunity for baseball fans young and old to enjoy the national past time, 219 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240 and catch up with each other in a comfortable and safe environment, 220 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:51,380 but it will serve as a recreation and job center and forge closer ties with Maldon neighbors. 221 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:59,430 As with other minor league teams around the country, our Maldon team will contribute thousands of dollars back to the community, 222 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:02,750 both in terms of tickets and things and also actual contributions. 223 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:08,930 Once the open items are resolved, our projected timeline would be to open for baseball in the spring of 2019. 224 00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:15,660 I think in terms of an update, that's what I can give you. 225 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:16,860 Happy to take questions. 226 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:23,220 I do want to just add that my answers will be limited by the rules and guidelines set forth by minor league baseball, 227 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:25,640 so that we don't endanger the entire project. 228 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,900 But other than that specific area, looking forward to your questions and say, 229 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:35,040 We would like to submit to your schedule, come back in two months and provide you with additional 230 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,480 updates. 231 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:37,800 Thank you, Mr. Valkon. 232 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,040 We do have a light, Council of Matheson. 233 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,600 Thank you, Council President. 234 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:44,700 Thank you, Mr. Valkon, for coming and giving this update and presentation. 235 00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:48,140 It was very informative and comprehensive and I appreciate that. 236 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:51,200 And we will provide a copy of this to you all. 237 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,540 So you great. 238 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,860 The text of this. 239 00:19:53,980 --> 00:19:54,880 I only have a couple of questions. 240 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,420 So, 241 00:19:57,620 --> 00:19:59,120 one of the questions I had, 242 00:20:02,350 --> 00:20:03,010 just kidding, one second. 243 00:20:05,690 --> 00:20:11,230 You were previously seeking, I'm sorry, some state funding in order to complete the project. 244 00:20:11,490 --> 00:20:13,910 Is that still part of the financial mix that you're seeking? 245 00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:18,390 There is the, for there is a, it's a part of the project. 246 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:26,190 There is a state capital budget item that passed in the 2012 legislature. 247 00:20:27,030 --> 00:20:56,130 that Paul Donato played, an important role in sponsor, he is the representative for our area and it would provide money to help build the meeting center that is a part of the project and to pay some of the environmental remediation issues that exist as folks know the national grid site has a long history of environmental issues and there is a the legislature's past and Governor Patrick signed a $20 million dollar 248 00:20:56,130 --> 00:21:04,190 capital budget item and we expect to seek that and go back to the state government that will be 249 00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,030 a part of the process. Yes. 250 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:11,750 And have you reconvenicated with the delegates about their willingness to continue to honor that? 251 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:18,210 Do you believe it's going to be wanted so to have that happen? There's no legislative process left. 252 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:23,710 It's been passed. It's not a budget item. It was a capital budget, so it sits there. It requires approval 253 00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:31,210 from A and F only. There's no legislative piece to that. And I will let others who are experts 254 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:38,690 on that, speak to it, but I believe it's, we are confident that with the, and the way 255 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:43,310 these, all these things only happen all at the same time. That is, there will be a financing 256 00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:47,830 where everybody shows up with their money. We show up with 60 million. The state money is there. 257 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:53,190 Everything that happens happens at the same time. So if one of these things doesn't happen, 258 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:54,830 than the other things aren't spent. 259 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:57,870 So it's all part of one big project at the end. 260 00:21:58,970 --> 00:21:59,450 Understood. 261 00:22:00,130 --> 00:22:03,570 So we received an update previously from the mayor. 262 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:06,510 There was a letter from my Nileague baseball 263 00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:10,410 allowing you until I believe January 31st to negotiate 264 00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:12,910 in Sikh and affiliate team. 265 00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:16,750 Has, has that been extended? 266 00:22:17,630 --> 00:22:19,430 I don't want to delve into anything on that. 267 00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:20,410 I don't want to delve into anything on that. 268 00:22:20,410 --> 00:22:22,150 I personally dress that in my statement 269 00:22:22,150 --> 00:22:24,590 And you'll see that it may have, our, 270 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:30,030 might only baseball has, we are in contact with them. 271 00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:34,470 They have indicated, they are reviewing everything, 272 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:36,990 and they've had nothing, and that they will get back to us 273 00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:37,570 by the end of the week. 274 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:38,830 But they said, these are our deadlines. 275 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:40,630 Just continue what you're doing. 276 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:43,070 So we expect to hear, we expect to have a revised letter 277 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,130 in the next week or so. 278 00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:48,170 We will forward that to the council, however that is done, 279 00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:49,690 when we get that. 280 00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:55,030 But we have used the two and a half months to accomplish what you do. 281 00:22:55,370 --> 00:22:59,050 We have, that's gave us the opportunity to talk to a number of potential teams. 282 00:23:00,550 --> 00:23:03,350 And we are, we use that time very productively. 283 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:10,130 So we may, the purpose that, that the time granted us, we have used well. 284 00:23:10,330 --> 00:23:13,490 So we're, we're, we need to be with relation to that. 285 00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:24,970 So I was in the council back in 2012 and there were a couple city elements to this deal coming together and one of those was that the city perform a backstop function. 286 00:23:25,650 --> 00:23:28,770 I understand that, you know, these teams don't wind up. 287 00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:31,550 There's a very good track record of minor league baseball. 288 00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:36,090 But the city was performing a backstop function in the event that that were to happen. 289 00:23:36,090 --> 00:23:43,670 And it was also an agreement I believe at the MRA about parking, revenue, split, something to that extent. 290 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:47,810 Are those two pieces still necessary if things were to progress the way you would like them to? 291 00:23:48,030 --> 00:23:54,670 They remain as they are and just for those who weren't, then just to give them more explanation on both of those items. 292 00:23:57,210 --> 00:24:03,710 The backstop issue comes to the issue is if at some point the stadium had to be torn down, we went out of business, 293 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:07,370 which, again, hasn't happened in minor league baseball, even in very small markets, it 294 00:24:07,370 --> 00:24:16,210 then created a scenario where the land, a bunch of the land we will have, we will own two 295 00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:21,990 acres of the parcel and the, in fact, the city will own those two acres in this, in this 296 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:22,270 thing. 297 00:24:22,510 --> 00:24:28,270 And so the city would have that money to tear it down and then sell the land and pay itself 298 00:24:28,270 --> 00:24:28,630 back. 299 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:33,450 So it would be a backstop, but it was, as I said, it was created this scenario where 300 00:24:33,450 --> 00:24:35,510 if it had to be torn down and we weren't still around. 301 00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:37,950 But that's still a piece of business that you see in the future. 302 00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:41,570 That would still be a piece of it to be the answer of the concern 303 00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:42,810 of how does this stadium. 304 00:24:43,030 --> 00:24:45,390 How do you have an absolute assurance that we'll get torn down? 305 00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:48,750 And since the city will own over two acres of land in this scenario, 306 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:51,550 it will have the ability to sell the land and pay itself back. 307 00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:54,410 Because at this point, all those contracts and agreements have expired, 308 00:24:54,530 --> 00:24:56,050 so you'd be looking at renewing those. 309 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:58,210 As you are looking at renewing with national grit, 310 00:24:58,510 --> 00:24:59,490 absolutely, it's the same thing. 311 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:01,890 And then your other question is, 312 00:25:01,890 --> 00:25:05,710 Right now there's very little evening paying parking use at the garage. 313 00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:06,850 We bring business in. 314 00:25:06,970 --> 00:25:09,430 We would looking at a joint revenue sharing agreement. 315 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:14,550 And at this point, and I think you've already addressed this, you have no longer under agreement 316 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:15,250 with National Grid. 317 00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:17,690 That's something that you're looking at renewing. 318 00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:18,110 Correct. 319 00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:21,770 We have agreed with National Grid that we're going to start meeting again. 320 00:25:23,010 --> 00:25:30,150 I know that and we National Grid has indicated to us that they are still very interested 321 00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:30,730 in the project. 322 00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:36,850 Okay. And you'd be looking at updating this update on April 11th to hear that quickly. 323 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:42,450 That's a date. But if you guys come back to say, you'll have to go on and send it on the date that you'd be coming back. 324 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:44,750 Okay. Those are my questions. Thank you very much. 325 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:49,730 I also would say we expect that there would be a full public meeting that we would, 326 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:54,390 that might well be, as a part of, there may be an additional, 327 00:25:54,390 --> 00:26:00,950 large two or three hour meeting where the public's invited and there's a whole process of our experts all coming 328 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:07,730 But however you folks decide to run the thing, but we would expect an addition to that to come back on the 11th of April and give you an additional update 329 00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:09,830 I would expect as things become more 330 00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:11,750 feasible 331 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:18,070 That we would have another public meeting the last one was in 2012, but the genesis of this project was back in 2010, I believe 332 00:26:19,070 --> 00:26:19,870 It's not a good one. 333 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:19,990 It's not a good one. 334 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:20,190 It's not a good one. 335 00:26:20,410 --> 00:26:20,890 It's not a good one. 336 00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:22,470 It's not a good one. 337 00:26:22,570 --> 00:26:24,750 Thank you. 338 00:26:27,290 --> 00:26:27,430 Yeah. 339 00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:29,150 Constable Malie. 340 00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:30,250 Thank you. 341 00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:31,230 Thank you, Mr. Buck. 342 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:32,870 I appreciate you giving us that update. 343 00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:37,650 So I've been out to the win casino site because I think that's kind of the 344 00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:42,350 comparison I'm having in my mind between this project and the casino and 345 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:43,650 average, I mean, it's a contaminated site. 346 00:26:43,730 --> 00:26:45,230 We're looking to redevelop it. 347 00:26:45,630 --> 00:26:48,950 I've been out to the site and I've seen extensive remediation on that site where 348 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:52,510 are moving upwards of 20 feet of soil because it's been contaminated. 349 00:26:53,650 --> 00:26:58,110 The National Grid site is heavily contaminated as we know by National Grid and its predecessors. 350 00:26:58,810 --> 00:27:03,710 And I was wondering, will the site be fully remediated, will those contaminants be removed 351 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:04,410 from the site? 352 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:05,910 What's the plan with that? 353 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:12,030 So we are looking to lease the land from National Grid when we started this process. 354 00:27:12,290 --> 00:27:18,930 I want to talk to the folks from the simple answer is National Grid has a plan which 355 00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:26,350 involves similar to the bank site that's on the corner of commercial in Route 6. 356 00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:26,810 Route 6. 357 00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:28,070 There's that bank site there. 358 00:27:28,170 --> 00:27:29,430 We're in the back behind the bank. 359 00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:34,590 You see there's a little thing where they monitor the soil underneath. 360 00:27:37,210 --> 00:27:43,190 And the environmentally appropriate solution, as I understand, it is to put a cap on 361 00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:46,270 and to monitor if there's any movements that have been no movements there. 362 00:27:46,270 --> 00:27:53,470 And I believe that the three of the four biggest environmental consulting firms in the state had 363 00:27:53,470 --> 00:27:56,170 been retained over the last 15 years by National Grid. 364 00:27:57,030 --> 00:28:02,370 And we had one also, and they all had the same solution, which is to put a cap on with a monitor. 365 00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:08,590 And it means you wouldn't put a residential building on the site, but for the purposes we're using it, 366 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:20,350 It's actually the preferred side, John DeVillers, who was a head of the state regional EPA and ran the state environmental area under Governor Dukakis and the EPA under Governor President Clinton. 367 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:34,550 He's one of our advisors and went off and talked to all of his colleagues, came back and said, this the solution that we're proposing for this site with a cap and monitoring is the preferred solution from an EPA perspective. 368 00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:36,910 And that's what will happen there. 369 00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:44,430 So just so I make sure I understand correctly national grid will continue to own the site, yes, and they've decided that they will not remediate the site 370 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:50,910 They will not be removing the contaminants instead. They will just be capping it. They cap it and monitor it so that if the stuff is 371 00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:59,030 They cap it and monitor it and that would be and that's the scut and that's exactly a whole we have in our prior 372 00:28:59,930 --> 00:29:06,530 Hearing a whole some testimony about that and we would bring the environmental people that would be part of the public hearing when we come back and we will 373 00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:12,510 we will provide you with, there is national grid has spent upwards of 20 million dollars over the 374 00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:19,290 last 15 years on analyzing what to do with the site, and they have been doing things with the site. 375 00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:24,350 But a cap is the appropriate solution according to the environmental folks. 376 00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:29,610 Well I appreciate that. I mean there's also the, in my opinion, I would like to see this site fully 377 00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:34,210 remediated. I mean if it's what's happening in ever with the wind casino site where they're 378 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:38,910 moving 20 feet of soil that's been contaminated over decades and maybe even centuries. 379 00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:46,310 I think that the modern community deserves this site being remediated fully so that it is safe enough for people to live near it. 380 00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:50,210 The other thing is that the modern river actually runs through the site. 381 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:54,550 So I do think there's a little bit of a few additional challenges that you're going to be facing with chapter 91 382 00:29:55,050 --> 00:29:58,330 and the people's right to access the modern river that runs through the site. 383 00:29:58,330 --> 00:29:59,970 I look forward to hearing half. 384 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,380 How you plan on dealing with that and the remediation of the site in the future? Thank you. 385 00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:10,920 I would just add that the contamination of the Moncanto contamination on the wind site and the 386 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,120 contamination here. That was a superfund site. This site is not a superfund site. It is a dramatically 387 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,180 different situation. And we can provide the data on that. 388 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,260 Councillor Lerandison. 389 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:30,160 Yes, thank you, Madam President. This is a bark. Thank you for appearing here this evening. I want 390 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:36,100 say that I'm encouraged by what I hear you saying. This has been a long process, and I'm 391 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:45,120 hoping that it will come to fruition. There have been a lot of moving parts, and we need 392 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:50,580 it to know, and I think you've adequately apologized for not being able to share with 393 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:55,660 us, but I think as the questions have come to me, you know, Councillor, do you support 394 00:30:55,660 --> 00:31:03,760 activity. My response has been supported if there's movement. You know, we've had what 395 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:11,280 appears from the council of just stagnation. And perhaps there were many, and obviously there 396 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,000 were many things that were going on. We were just not apprised of it. So you are being 397 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:23,440 here this evening helped to clarify that. So I certainly will, to give you a more time to 398 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,100 I think the idea of having a minor league team here in Walden at that site is a great idea. 399 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:39,000 I think all the things that you've mentioned, the parking, the access to the T, you know, makes that a very, very desirable 400 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:46,420 desirable location and the potential for income coming into Walden and pot time jobs and so forth. 401 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:49,460 So I encourage you to continue on. 402 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:55,080 And I think the elephant in the room has to do, however, 403 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,680 with the acquisition of all the land around there. 404 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:01,600 And I think you have probably cleared that there 405 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,060 doesn't appear to be a temperament on the part of the council 406 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:09,360 to do anything in terms of eminent domain. 407 00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:14,420 So I feel that same way that I hope you 408 00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:19,240 to come to terms with those of budding neighbors so that this project can get underway. 409 00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:25,320 And so I give you time to come back with more encouraging information, 410 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,220 and hope that let's play ball. 411 00:32:29,060 --> 00:32:29,300 Thank you. 412 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,340 And we are going to do everything we can to have do a private transactions 413 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:40,700 at significantly above way, above market and above market value, 414 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,260 and we'll see if we can get that done. 415 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Thank you. 416 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Thank you, Madam President. 417 00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:45,700 Thank you, Congressman. 418 00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:47,360 And to some council looking at it. 419 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Yes, and thank you, Madam President. 420 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:57,920 And thank you, Mr. Bach, for coming in this evening and explaining the project to us. 421 00:32:58,980 --> 00:33:02,220 I look at this as simply a private transaction. 422 00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:09,480 Something that the city has curiosity about, certainly myself, 423 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:19,960 But no real part in, as Constellan Anderson has stated, I don't see a place in government 424 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:27,280 to take private property from one entity to provide private property to another private entity. 425 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:36,720 So if that's in the back of anybody's mind, I don't see the appetite for that. 426 00:33:36,720 --> 00:34:02,460 But my curiosity is around affiliation and a question, and I could be wrong about this, but does the major league team that's within so many miles have to approve of a minor league affiliate team coming into their domain, if you will. 427 00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:09,440 And within 75 miles of a major league team, a major league team has a veto over any team. 428 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,020 And including, we've seen it just recently in San Francisco, where the Oakland Athletic spent $30 million 429 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:17,600 to look at building a state even San Jose. 430 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,200 And at the end of that process, the San Francisco Giants said, we've changed our mind. 431 00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:25,440 You can't move to San Jose, because that's within 75 miles of us. 432 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:33,440 And so the minor league baseball process includes consultation with a very large group of 433 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,380 stakeholders, which include the major league team. 434 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,320 So, okay, so my next question is the obvious, I think. 435 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,440 And do you have that approval from the Boston Red Sox? 436 00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:49,240 The process is we have dealt with minor league baseball. 437 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,100 They talk to their constituents. 438 00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:54,320 But there is no such approval to me. 439 00:34:56,050 --> 00:35:00,050 you stated the correct situation, if a majorly team 440 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:02,690 would host a team within 75 miles, it doesn't happen. 441 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:03,990 Minorly baseball. 442 00:35:05,310 --> 00:35:06,490 We applied a minorly baseball. 443 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:08,570 They said you are approved. 444 00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:11,710 That's how the process works. 445 00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:16,350 They talked to the various teams that have roles in the process. 446 00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:18,110 Thank you for clarifying that. 447 00:35:18,370 --> 00:35:24,070 I have another curiosity question. 448 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:33,870 And that is, you named a number of teams that were successful as affiliates, a big fan of 449 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:40,050 minor league baseball that you're talking to right here, really like it, for the affordability, 450 00:35:40,450 --> 00:35:49,370 anybody who has a family, book, you named Columbus, I think it was Huntington Field, fifth, 451 00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:55,170 30 grand rapids, I was talking about ball parks that were built by turner construction. 452 00:35:56,010 --> 00:36:02,450 Yeah, but these are successful, that have been recent, the, the, the, I mean, there are, 453 00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:06,450 I cited as the one of the most successful ones is in Frisco, Texas, which is an 454 00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:07,290 edalist market. 455 00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:17,390 And then you, so those three, we're all in second TMI, it's not located within 75 miles, 456 00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:20,270 I don't think of a major league team, perhaps I'm incurred. 457 00:36:20,290 --> 00:36:25,750 The Dallas team is within 20 miles of the Marangers, and there are in New York City. 458 00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:30,990 There are two minor league teams in New York City within 12 miles of the United States, and Chase Stadium. 459 00:36:31,330 --> 00:36:41,230 Those were approved by the, those are, so which teams in the United States, within 10 to 15 miles of a major league team? 460 00:36:41,310 --> 00:36:46,390 Just the ones in New York, the ones in New York are the closest, there are teams in Bowie, Maryland, 461 00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:54,470 that's about 15, 18 miles from Baltimore, there are, but there are most teams, historically 462 00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:59,910 major league teams that not wanted, minor league teams near their market, but that view 463 00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:00,950 has changed in the last year. 464 00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:05,050 Yeah, no, I don't think we're comparable to New York City. 465 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:13,350 I think the population in New York is, you know, compared to probably triple, what it is in 466 00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:17,270 So that would be my concern, but you've answered my questions. 467 00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:18,630 Thank you very much. 468 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:20,770 Thank you, Councilor Demoria. 469 00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:22,910 Thank you, Madam President. 470 00:37:23,290 --> 00:37:25,990 And thank you, Mr. Block, for coming in front of us. 471 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:29,730 It's always good to be continually updated. 472 00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:33,010 I think there was a big wall there. 473 00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:34,470 So that's fine. 474 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:35,430 Thank you very much. 475 00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:37,010 So I do have a couple of questions. 476 00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:51,160 So, based on the decision as to which minor league team will be chosen, when do you expect 477 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,160 to make that announcement? 478 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,760 I understand you cannot now, but what's the time? 479 00:37:56,780 --> 00:38:03,280 Well, it has to be done before we, that is the idea that we have an agreement to purchase 480 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:09,240 a team, is nobody's going to finance the deal without being announced. 481 00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:17,280 So the deal only happens with that, with their being a announcement as to a team from, 482 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,280 minor baseball has rules about what you can say. 483 00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:25,280 So I don't, but at the end of the day, you have to have a purchase and sale agreement to buy a team 484 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,980 and affiliate a team for this financing to happen. 485 00:38:28,980 --> 00:38:41,640 So, so basically the first, your continued first priority would be the continuation of the lease with National Grid and the purchase of those private businesses. 486 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,360 Correct. 487 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:46,780 Okay. And where are you at with that since you know it's not the... 488 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:56,420 Well, the National Grid we've, as I indicated earlier, we are going, we've dealt with them recently and we're scheduling meetings to resume our discussions. 489 00:38:56,420 --> 00:39:00,920 I've spoken to Marcy Reed, who's the president of National Grid and Massachusetts several times, 490 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:09,000 and she is eager to resume this process, and she has constituencies that she cares about, 491 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,400 which include the Attorney General. 492 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:17,720 Attorney General Cochlee was a strong supporter of the project, and Attorney General Healy has 493 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:23,020 indicated she is positively inclined towards the project, and we National Grid cares about 494 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:26,680 those things because the right payers, the deal with national great has to be one that's 495 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,420 fair for the right payers as a part of the process. But we're resuming our discussions 496 00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:36,600 with them. I got a note today there. We're picking up two or three dates in the next week 497 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,140 and we'll be meeting with them. And then as I said on the property owners we've retained the leading 498 00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:53,000 appraisal firm and greater Boston we will be making Britain above market offers by the 17th of 499 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,800 if we can do that with them and start that process. 500 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,420 Okay, and so the date of April 11th would, 501 00:39:59,420 --> 00:40:02,060 as you come back with further correspondence, 502 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,980 hopefully would be some sort of announcement 503 00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:07,980 that you are in a purchase and sales with those two. 504 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,060 We would hope that would be wonderful. 505 00:40:10,060 --> 00:40:11,960 So the national grid piece, when I bind the land, 506 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:14,420 we'd be going to be releasing it. 507 00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:17,680 But we expect that by April 11th, 508 00:40:17,740 --> 00:40:19,780 we will have significant progress progress. 509 00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:21,900 That's about 60 days from now. 510 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:28,260 Okay. And so if let's just think really positive, all goes good, 511 00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:32,780 when do we, when do you start, 512 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,760 when's the, you know, timeline of the? 513 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:45,520 So backing up we are looking at, fundamentally we look at shovels in the ground this year and opening the spring of 19. 514 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680 That's our, that's our basic schedule. 515 00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:51,040 National Grid has some work it has to do. 516 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:59,040 right. They have responsibility to put this cap on. Right. So they anticipate that timeline. 517 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:06,300 Well, that takes their timeline is of three to six months timeline. So they have to get started on that. 518 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:13,120 But that would start once we, but that is part of the construction project. I mean, there will be things done at the same time. 519 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,760 So that will start this year building the stadium can take from 10 to 15 months. 520 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,920 So we have, we have, and the season starts in the spring of 19. 521 00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:25,040 So there's a, there's a cushion in there. 522 00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:32,520 Okay, so I look forward to you coming back April 11th and bringing an update to the council. 523 00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:35,820 I think that's really important, so thank you. 524 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:36,420 Thank you. 525 00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:39,880 And just to be clear, I'm not trying to impose April 11th, if you want it to be a week later, 526 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,240 a week earlier, depending on your meeting schedule, I'm just trying to just put a ballpark 527 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:45,120 idea out there. 528 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,400 Great. 529 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,220 Thank you. 530 00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:47,600 Council, Spadafore. 531 00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:49,840 Thank you, Madam President. 532 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,380 So, let me probably stop with my question. 533 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:55,420 I was going to ask last, Alex. 534 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,560 So, you're anticipating coming back into April 11 with the decision to 535 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,500 year or nay, at that point, because you'll know from Major League of 536 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,720 Monterly Baseball if they got a grant to team, or as April 11 537 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,300 is going to be a day just to come in and give us an update, which you 538 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:10,400 might not know. 539 00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:16,080 As we've indicated, we're working on the National Grid 540 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,740 peace and we would hope to have that significantly concluded potentially concluded or heading 541 00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,800 in the right direction or not heading in the right direction, but we think that will be. 542 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:33,340 We will have an update on the parcels and I'm working to everything we can to have that 543 00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:34,760 happen and I'm not prejudging that. 544 00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:40,480 So we only purchase a team if the other issues come together. 545 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,960 We have, there are in the Greater New England, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey area. 546 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,940 there are a number of team owners who are quite interested in selling their team to us, so 547 00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:55,860 the acquiring a team is not the gating issue. 548 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,280 I think if you, there are websites, if you type in, there are people who are selling teams 549 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,580 today, if you go on the web, you will find there are teams that are available for purchase. 550 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,640 It's the real issue is having a stadium to put it in and having the right to put it in 551 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000 that stadium, and that's what we have been working on. 552 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,660 Okay, but I don't think April 11th is a April 11th. 553 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,780 We will have significant progress to report. 554 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,580 But there are, and just to be clear, the project is not final, 555 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,620 is in close to being final till we come back to you with, 556 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,880 and there's a public hearing and process on that. 557 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,980 So there are, one would never presume to say the project is final 558 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,740 until you guys have had a public hearing. 559 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,800 Yeah, so I think you know, Alex, obviously, I've been involved with this 560 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,040 probably since day one, and it's been all, and I think everybody 561 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,640 at the hope something happens there, right? 562 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,620 I think it would be, for all the reasons you mentioned, 563 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560 the ability to redevelop that area, to get grow, 564 00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:53,960 to do all these things that works well, right? 565 00:43:54,580 --> 00:43:58,560 But from, I think the difference between all those other cities 566 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,920 you mentioned, and it's not your fault, it's just a particular area. 567 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,180 And full disclosure, one of my relatives owns a parcel right there, 568 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:12,800 is the only problem I think by having this long tenure we've done here is you have three 569 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,160 apostles there that probably can't do anything until we get a decision because if I own one 570 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:25,200 of them, I might not want to invest money into what I can't probably sell it. So just for the benefit 571 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,960 of three businesses there, I think we have to come to some finale. That's the first thing 572 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,620 I'm going to say. The second thing I have to say is when you came in a more than ten years 573 00:44:32,620 --> 00:44:33,020 ago. 574 00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:43,040 It's a different city. Meaning we've grown up tremendously, the downtown area has a better 575 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,840 nightlife than it had before. So the garage is that we're empty and not as empty as we expect. 576 00:44:48,460 --> 00:44:53,560 So what concerns me a little bit is we come forward eight years. There's a casino being built 577 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,400 on the street, that whole car had changed for the better. 578 00:44:58,780 --> 00:44:59,960 And I think Council Matt is in hit. 579 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 The need on that, too, is that negotiations that would happen before and we were not part of that. That was the MRA and we were not part of that until the MRA came down to this council and the current mayor was part of it and they showed us the document and they said, hey, if this feels, everything in that document said MRA, until it got to the point where it said, oh, if it feels, the city of Maldon is going to pay, all the revenue was going to the MRA, all that stuff. And I remember being in that council saying, I am absolutely not supporting that because we're the ones 580 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,800 going to take care of the infrastructure, meaning commercial streets got to be changed, I think, 581 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,060 lighting, the garages need infrastructure help. So there's a lot of things that I think we need to 582 00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:48,400 do besides the land. And I know you've come here, you've given us an update and you gave us 583 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,020 data that I've never heard before. If the owner's going to hear from them, great. And if you think 584 00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:58,200 you can get this in the ground in two years, that'd be even fantastic. But the only reason why I'm 585 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:06,020 little bit pessimistic, excuse me, is nobody up here has seen the contracts, we've got a 586 00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:09,460 stop from scratch, you've got to work with National Grid, the only thing I ask is you come 587 00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:15,860 back here, we have to come to some decision, you know, the casino down there and this whole area 588 00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:21,780 I think is drastically changed and mallman is now building a development down here, redesigning 589 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:27,900 city hall, at a cost of probably $80 million in infrastructure, hopefully that attracts more 590 00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:29,600 like, hopefully we have more people. 591 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,220 So those garages that we have right now might not even 592 00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:34,400 have a accommodate, all the things you just mentioned. 593 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,360 And as a council, I've been preaching about, you know, 594 00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:41,080 parking, you know, as the council, the war that you're in 595 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,440 right now, parking is at a premium now. 596 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,080 Again, not that I think it's a bad project, but we need 597 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,620 to get some data, because if we have to plan, and we're 598 00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:54,820 planning around something this eight years, we have 599 00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:56,460 to make a decision along with the mayor's office. 600 00:46:56,460 --> 00:47:01,960 and all I ask is hopefully in that daily pro-11 we can come to some folk in a road and if it's 601 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,000 if it's the right way to go, we'll be absolutely willing to support it and work aggressively, 602 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,720 but if it's not, we've got to make it a decision. Thank you Madam President. 603 00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:17,140 Thank you, Councilor. There's no one lights in from the chair. I'm really actually encouraged 604 00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:21,560 that we do have some sort of harder deadlines that we'll look at for. I'll talk to the 605 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:28,000 pass the loaners on the couple of the 17th of February and moving that on. So I look forward 606 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,820 to having you back again on April 11th, but their votes will be in touch. And thank you very 607 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,040 much for your update. Thank you very much. Thank you. 608 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,540 So I think we'll take a two minute recess 609 00:47:41,540 --> 00:47:43,960 just to let our guests leave. 610 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:48,190 Bench and Richard Sandman, four, four, two, Main Street, 611 00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:56,250 on Council of Maths and Motion to Spendock rules all those in favour, post, duck rules 612 00:49:56,250 --> 00:50:02,930 suspended. On Council of Maths and Motion to Refer to Claims, all those in favour, 613 00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:08,210 all opposed the motion of the deferred to Claims. 614 00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:13,310 Under Suspension of Drake of Rules, it is a sense of the city council that the council 615 00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:19,330 President of Point Two City Council is to serve with a representative of the mayor's office 616 00:50:19,330 --> 00:50:26,650 and human resources to advertise and fill the second engineering position to oversee our 617 00:50:26,650 --> 00:50:35,870 road work project in DEP lead mandated on lead pipes identified on both the public and private 618 00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:40,750 side of our water system, Councilor Condon. 619 00:50:40,990 --> 00:50:43,150 On Councilor Condon's motion to spend 620 00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:47,830 up rules all those of favor, I'll post rules of 621 00:50:47,830 --> 00:50:50,110 suspended Councilor Condon for the paper. 622 00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:53,230 Thank you, Madam President. 623 00:50:54,350 --> 00:50:59,770 We've talked about this $92,000 position for a long time. 624 00:51:00,110 --> 00:51:04,870 And I know that they're very close to hiring the new 625 00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:13,950 Department had up an engineering to replace our former engineer, Mr. Russell, and I've 626 00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:22,210 had conversations with the representatives from the mayor's office that it's very, 627 00:51:22,210 --> 00:51:30,050 very important to us that we feel that $92,000 position in that vicinity that has been 628 00:51:30,050 --> 00:51:32,050 appropriated in the budget, 629 00:51:34,110 --> 00:51:36,750 and they expressed a willingness to work with the 630 00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:45,410 capacity counselors and the mayor's office and human resources to attack this position, 631 00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:52,750 get it out to bid, do the specifications, they've already done the chief engineering with 632 00:51:52,750 --> 00:52:01,290 the thought of us having a point person overseeing our roads and if you can come to the meeting 633 00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:10,950 next Wednesday on the review of the DPP situation, that person will be kept quite busy 634 00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:20,170 also with the oversight of our DPP mandates and what we face as a community. 635 00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:26,370 So, I think it's important that we move and fill that position and there's no better way to 636 00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:33,330 start than to put two people up there to work with me as I've get it out, get it out, 637 00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:35,310 and advertise and filled. 638 00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:36,930 Thank you. 639 00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:37,730 Councilor Matheson. 640 00:52:39,150 --> 00:52:39,710 Thank you, Chair. 641 00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:46,450 You know, I don't have, you know, some long drawn out opposition of this. 642 00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:52,910 just like for a point of background here, this is the position that we negotiated during the budget 643 00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:58,610 process two years ago so that we could bring on another person in the engineering field to 644 00:52:58,610 --> 00:53:05,190 oversee the massive roadway reconstruction project that we have going on right now. At the end 645 00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:13,310 of last year we referred this job advertisement to appointments committee and for whatever reason 646 00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:15,750 we haven't put it out for an advertisement. 647 00:53:16,530 --> 00:53:18,990 That is the only thing standing in between us 648 00:53:18,990 --> 00:53:21,850 and have an applicants in the engineering field 649 00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:23,470 to help us with these projects. 650 00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:29,710 We already voted in the finance committee to have a team 651 00:53:29,710 --> 00:53:32,770 comprised of counselors and the mayor and his design 652 00:53:32,770 --> 00:53:35,250 and the council president or her design 653 00:53:36,110 --> 00:53:40,470 to vet the applicants and go through the hiring process. 654 00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:47,630 So, I don't know what's being sought here except it sounds to me like we're looking for 655 00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:50,930 appointments committee not to work with HR to put out the advertisement. 656 00:53:51,890 --> 00:53:56,410 We now is the point of this to have the maize department put out the advertisement. 657 00:53:56,610 --> 00:53:58,290 I'm just a little confused in that regard. 658 00:53:59,470 --> 00:53:59,850 Through the chair. 659 00:53:59,990 --> 00:54:01,250 Oh, here on the council. 660 00:54:02,490 --> 00:54:03,490 Council of Condon. 661 00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:08,530 The mayor's office showed a willingness to work with the council because that was at the request 662 00:54:08,530 --> 00:54:09,330 at the council. 663 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:19,550 If it was up to me, the same way they put out the advertising to post that position, the mayor's office. 664 00:54:20,110 --> 00:54:29,110 I would suggest that we let them put this one out also and work with HR in filis position. 665 00:54:29,810 --> 00:54:36,970 But if we want some say in it to communicate back to you, as a council, 666 00:54:36,970 --> 00:54:44,490 So she could appoint two people to go to those meetings to be involved with it. 667 00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:47,790 But we need to move forward and do it. 668 00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:53,590 I talk with the head of appointments Council of Demo Rio co-sponsored this with me and 669 00:54:53,590 --> 00:55:00,010 she doesn't have a problem to move this forward and if I think it would be better if we 670 00:55:00,010 --> 00:55:05,250 have a couple of councils up there and so we'll have some direct line of communication. 671 00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:13,270 And my only point, if I may, my only point, is that this is ready to be advertised as job-opening. 672 00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:18,590 I don't think you need to put a lot of cooks in the kitchen in order to advertise a job-opening. 673 00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:22,650 For some reason, the council has been unable or unwilling to do it. 674 00:55:22,850 --> 00:55:24,470 But all we need is a job advertisement. 675 00:55:25,070 --> 00:55:28,470 We already have a committee mix that we've decided on in finance committee that's going 676 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:29,410 to review these applicants. 677 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:34,630 And just as background, this is something the council negotiated. 678 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:39,630 it so we could have a role in bringing on a second in Geneva for this massive project. 679 00:55:40,750 --> 00:55:44,230 So all that's changing here is that instead of the council putting up the job advertisement, 680 00:55:44,410 --> 00:55:49,050 the mayor's department is, and we're going to send a couple of council's over to watch them 681 00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:50,750 draft up job advertisement. 682 00:55:51,770 --> 00:55:54,170 So I just don't really see this as being necessary. 683 00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:57,610 I think it ought to be put out by a Plainman's Committee and I think it ought to be done 684 00:55:57,610 --> 00:55:58,590 forth with. 685 00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:00,770 Those are my comments. 686 00:56:01,050 --> 00:56:01,630 Thank you. 687 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:12,820 we took that resolve a long time ago. Nothing's happened. Nothing has happened at all for appointments. 688 00:56:13,540 --> 00:56:15,440 You're no longer the chairman of appointments. 689 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,280 It's been at least six months. 690 00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:33,280 The mayor's office is express a willingness to put this out, get it out in the street and get the 691 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,820 position filled. I think that's the way we should go and I think if you want a couple representatives 692 00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:45,220 to go to those meetings that people available can make those meetings during the day. 693 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,200 I'm just curious what meetings? 694 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,860 Actually, just to the sponsor, what meetings are you talking about? 695 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:56,480 To agree upon the way this should go out to advertise. 696 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,880 The way we did it for City Clerk, the way we did it for Clerk or committees. 697 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,340 We have H.O. come in. 698 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,660 We draft a job posting. 699 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,140 We put it in the local papers on the website. 700 00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:08,660 Then we interview applicants. 701 00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:12,700 Why are we shirking our responsibility? 702 00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:15,600 Why would we do that? 703 00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:19,270 I'm voting against this. 704 00:57:19,810 --> 00:57:24,210 Just for a point of information that I don't think we're shirking our responsibilities 705 00:57:24,210 --> 00:57:30,950 because this was a result that said there would be the President, Council, President, and 706 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:36,050 a Councilor, you know, Designee, and someone from the Maya's office, so there was going 707 00:57:36,050 --> 00:57:36,870 to be five people. 708 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:51,270 And so it can be put out by the appointments, but we were making this committee and it was really going to be led by the City Council to actually vet do the interviews and then, you know, wearing those people that person for it. 709 00:57:51,410 --> 00:58:00,070 So it wasn't the appointments that was actually doing that. It was part of the resolution that there'd be two from the mayor's office, there, 710 00:58:00,070 --> 00:58:03,890 I'm Designee's, choose from the City Council in the head of HR. 711 00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:07,660 Council, Matt. 712 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:08,120 All right. 713 00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:11,360 I think we're confusing two different things. 714 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,820 One is in a committee to interview the applicants and make the hiring recommendation. 715 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,880 And the other thing, which is the subject of this paper, is to put out the job posting. 716 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000 That's in appointment's committee right now. 717 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:30,060 All we need is HR to come in, consult with us, and we put out the job description. 718 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,420 That's it. I don't know why we would be moving that out of our committee. It's sitting there. 719 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,960 It's our responsibility. It's long overdue, and we ought to do it. 720 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,400 I'm not saying anything about the committee that's going to do the interview. 721 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,220 We did agree on that. That's not what this paper is about. 722 00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:50,060 This paper is about us not putting the job out for advertising. 723 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,060 It's about sending it away from our committee, for someone else to do it. 724 00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:56,300 So, 725 00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:00,400 in that regard, I'm going to vote against it. 726 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440 I think a point that's committee ought to just put out this job description immediately 727 00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:09,780 so that we can get to hearing from applicants and seeing who's best for the job. 728 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,320 Thank you, Councillor Condon. 729 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:13,320 Yes. 730 00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:16,600 For me, we talked about this position. 731 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,540 Prior to even voting for the budget. 732 00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:20,640 About nine months ago. 733 00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:22,740 Two years ago. 734 00:59:22,740 --> 00:59:23,700 Two years ago. 735 00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:31,800 nothing has happened. I want something to happen now, and I think this is the best way to do it. 736 00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:34,580 It's been in an appointment for two years. 737 00:59:40,460 --> 00:59:44,180 We discussed that we were going to fill this position prior to the budget. 738 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,080 That was seven, eight months ago. 739 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,520 It was discussed that we would move forward to coordinate and do it. 740 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,600 It hasn't been done. I think this is the best way to do it. 741 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,360 We need this position on board. 742 00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,840 We need a point personal. 743 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:09,140 We need somebody for this DEP situation that we're in. And I don't think I'm looking to take anything away from appointments. 744 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:16,640 I've talked with Council of Dima Reyes. She has no problem with this, and I think it will move us forward to fill the position. 745 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:26,180 There are already, they finish their interviews today with the top person on that they advertise to fill Jack Russell's position. 746 01:00:26,180 --> 01:00:33,620 And hopefully we can move on very quickly to fill this position so that we can utilize this person. 747 01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:39,810 That's the council to approve that. 748 01:00:40,030 --> 01:00:41,270 Councilor Deemorita. 749 01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:43,210 Thank you Madam President. 750 01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:47,630 And I think it's the whoves all of us to move forward with it. 751 01:00:48,350 --> 01:00:52,250 So it honestly doesn't matter who sends out the posting. 752 01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:57,410 What I would like to do is to amend that with some timeline. 753 01:00:57,410 --> 01:01:07,850 that whoever we decide, whether it's through my committee and appointments or through a collaboration with the mayor's office, 754 01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:11,550 I just would like to get it out there. 755 01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:18,130 We've been talking about it long enough and that would be my amendment to that. 756 01:01:18,130 --> 01:01:26,950 With some sort of timeline, say 14 days, seven days, to the time it's posted with a closed window. 757 01:01:27,770 --> 01:01:30,790 And I, with that amendment, I would second that. 758 01:01:32,620 --> 01:01:33,200 Move the question. 759 01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:35,640 Take the amendment up first. 760 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,760 I'm just moving to move it out of the amendments. 761 01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:41,420 Yeah. 762 01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:43,580 The job was. 763 01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:44,860 And Senator Wea. 764 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,640 The mayor's office. 765 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:55,600 The mayor's office would two committee members to represent this council and I'd be happy to put say a much first date to get the thing advertised 766 01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:02,560 Can I ask a silly question sure if you're gonna move it out at appointment to send the mayor's I was why did you have them for something from the mayor's office come to the appointment committee? 767 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:05,000 What 768 01:02:06,460 --> 01:02:13,300 I don't want to stop playing the blame game here. No, I'm not I'm just looking to get it done. No, I'm with the cops 769 01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:14,240 I just don't like it. 770 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,720 It's been a while, and there's been no movement. 771 01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:19,500 But is that a thought? 772 01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:22,940 To me, I'm not saying it to anybody's fault. 773 01:02:23,420 --> 01:02:27,040 If it was up to me, I tell the people that advertised 774 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,780 the engineering job to replace Jack Russell 775 01:02:32,060 --> 01:02:34,520 to advertise this position. 776 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,780 But if you'd like a line of communication, 777 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,720 she could appoint two councils to work with them as people 778 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,720 And get this thing advertised by March 1st. 779 01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:48,100 So I wish the court her amendment. 780 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:50,540 Councillor McKinnon. 781 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,640 Yes, thank you, Madam President. 782 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,060 I hear all parties here. 783 01:02:58,260 --> 01:03:02,220 And you know how on HCIN about the road situation. 784 01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:05,220 Voted against much of it from the beginning. 785 01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:21,220 and yet this we are we are all working full-time jobs not in the city and we've had the 786 01:03:21,220 --> 01:03:32,780 opportunity to go forward and get this done. We have not so as much as I dislike it I 787 01:03:32,780 --> 01:03:47,380 I think tonight and last week in finance was a perfect example of not having somebody on this 788 01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:50,920 project, us being baffled. 789 01:03:51,680 --> 01:04:01,080 I don't know whether we're being told the truth and I'd like an expert in here who just 790 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:07,080 on these roads, because God knows we got 42 left. Last week we heard we could only get eight 791 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:14,440 done. Now this week we can get more done, and I think it's imperative that that process 792 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:21,340 move forward. Now we're at ultimately ends up, this doesn't say the position reports to the 793 01:04:21,340 --> 01:04:28,200 man. This says, put it on the man's plate with these two counselors, and get the done thing, 794 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:35,180 done. Get somebody in here. If we then wanted to report to us, that's how my preference would be. 795 01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:42,020 But we can't even get out of our own way. And I'm not, I'm part of the problem. I'm working 796 01:04:42,020 --> 01:04:48,240 40, 50, 60 hours a week. I don't have time to be in here during the day, into the old candidates. 797 01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:56,100 And I don't know anybody here who does. So except maybe some of the retirees. And hopefully, 798 01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:05,360 they get appointed to this committee, but I just wanted to move forward, so I hope people 799 01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,220 move this paper forward. 800 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,140 Thank you. 801 01:05:09,380 --> 01:05:11,920 Council of Matheson for the third time. 802 01:05:12,340 --> 01:05:18,740 Well, since the Chairman of Appointments wanted to interview folks without putting the opening 803 01:05:18,740 --> 01:05:23,840 on the Board of Health, Alfred Advertisement, I'll make a motion that we refer the Board 804 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:30,500 of health, add the ties to that opening to the mayor's office, and we can have a couple of 805 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,660 questions. 806 01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:32,360 I think that's a separate topic. 807 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,880 We're on this particular topic at the moment. 808 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,100 And I'm council deemory is motion to amend. 809 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,300 Can you repeat? 810 01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:58,220 Amendment that the position be posted within 14 days? 811 01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:07,360 to be posted within one month, to be posted within one month. 812 01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:15,970 Okay, so the amendment is that the position be posted within one month. 813 01:06:17,450 --> 01:06:19,570 No, no, no, no later, because I think. 814 01:06:19,570 --> 01:06:19,970 No later. 815 01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:22,590 Let's move this along. 816 01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:25,880 Clerk, call the roll. 817 01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:26,520 Anderson. 818 01:06:26,780 --> 01:06:27,220 Yes. 819 01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:28,460 Condon. 820 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:45,360 Dr. Andrew, absent, deemaria, Kenan, Matheson, Murphy, O'Malley, Sika, Spetafora, Crow. 821 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:46,200 Yes. 822 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,100 The paper has been amended. 823 01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:58,720 on Councillor Condon's motion to approve, second by Councillor DeMaria, the clerk will call the roll. 824 01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:59,880 Yes. 825 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,080 Condon? 826 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:01,360 Yes. 827 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:03,960 DeMaria? 828 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,440 Kenan? 829 01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:05,760 Yes. 830 01:07:06,220 --> 01:07:06,700 Madison? 831 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,260 No. 832 01:07:07,820 --> 01:07:08,160 Murphy? 833 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:08,980 Yes. 834 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:09,780 O'Malley? 835 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,080 Yes. 836 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:12,180 Yes. 837 01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:12,300 Speaker? 838 01:07:13,340 --> 01:07:14,140 Yes. 839 01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:21,410 All right. 840 01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:22,770 It passes. 841 01:07:22,770 --> 01:07:22,890 It passes. 842 01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:26,590 And on that, the docket is clear. 843 01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:31,430 We do have ordinance and appointments after. 844 01:07:31,730 --> 01:07:36,390 So please say for that, and on Councilor Deemary is motion to adjourn all those in favour. 845 01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:37,850 Hang on. 846 01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:38,430 Hang on. 847 01:07:40,210 --> 01:07:40,830 Pressure delivered. 848 01:07:40,970 --> 01:07:41,490 I'm sorry. 849 01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:42,470 Councilor Kenan. 850 01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:43,770 Thank you. 851 01:07:44,030 --> 01:07:44,450 Madam President. 852 01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:47,150 I know nobody's here, but I would like to congratulate. 853 01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:54,250 councilor de-Marie or I'm becoming a grandmother and to a beautiful baby. Beautiful baby. 854 01:07:54,530 --> 01:08:00,150 Thank you. 855 01:08:00,730 --> 01:08:05,680 You have to take it down to the council of Condon. 856 01:08:06,380 --> 01:08:07,640 Thank you, our council president. 857 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:17,560 We sent something out today to schedule an off night to address the D.P. mandates being placed on the city 858 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,400 to possibly get the city engineer on board. 859 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:34,600 I'm going to have a meeting next Wednesday night at 6 o'clock at this very auditorium. 860 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:40,580 Finance committee understands that we're meeting in the seriousness of the situation. 861 01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:59,100 And also any other councils that can make it, you certainly invited to participate in it and I think it will be a very good informational meeting in the members of the public, too, if they want to find out what this is all about what the lead situation that we are facing. 862 01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:02,220 And I felt that should have been an off night. 863 01:09:03,220 --> 01:09:03,740 Thank you. 864 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,580 Thank you. 865 01:09:04,580 --> 01:09:05,760 Council Statafore, 866 01:09:11,020 --> 01:09:12,540 we are meeting beyond TV, 867 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,080 more information, we should probably have that on TV. 868 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,020 I would put that would be my recommendation. 869 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:27,620 So my personal privilege, I just wanted to, the city receives, I want to thank the Council 870 01:09:27,620 --> 01:09:29,960 for your union of its vote, and I was a long time coming. 871 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:35,340 I also wanted to thank the four members of the Energy Officials Committee, Stacey Vandier, 872 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:35,760 was a war. 873 01:09:35,820 --> 01:09:37,500 Six resident draws, Smith was a war. 874 01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:39,820 Three resident, Molly Smith was a war. 875 01:09:39,820 --> 01:09:43,920 and then Eric Rubin, city received roughly $340,000. 876 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,060 The May has some ideas looking at LED lighting, 877 01:09:47,480 --> 01:09:50,420 but I asked the councils if they have any ideas 878 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,620 in terms of energy-efficient products. 879 01:09:52,780 --> 01:09:54,240 A couple of the ideas I want to look at 880 01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:56,500 are those big mouth barrels, 881 01:09:56,820 --> 01:09:58,760 the ones that were developed out of MIT, 882 01:09:59,460 --> 01:10:00,260 they're solar powered, 883 01:10:00,620 --> 01:10:02,900 and then they radio waves tell them 884 01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:04,160 when to come pick up the barrels. 885 01:10:05,420 --> 01:10:07,240 So the DP doesn't have to, 886 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:13,500 drive around the parks, once the compact and once recycling, they're about $7,000 each 887 01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:14,220 on my recommendation. 888 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:19,540 It may as we probably get like 10 of those, but it's good news we got the $340,000 and more 889 01:10:19,540 --> 01:10:23,320 to come next year and it was without the council's vote we wouldn't be able to do that. 890 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:23,960 So I appreciate it. 891 01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:24,960 He's helping that. 892 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,180 Thank you. 893 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:26,740 Thank you. 894 01:10:27,020 --> 01:10:32,960 And can those barrels have pictures cameras on them to see people that are throwing their home 895 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:33,820 waste there? 896 01:10:33,820 --> 01:10:37,880 Okay, now on Council of D. Maria's motion to adjourn all of us in favor. 897 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,680 Opposed? 898 01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:40,560 Stand adjourned.