1 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,561 >> Chair Jefferson: I would 2 00:00:20,561 --> 00:00:20,961 like to go ahead and call the 3 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:22,961 meeting to order. 4 00:00:23,564 --> 00:00:26,600 Let us begin with a moment of 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,600 silence. 6 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,450 [Moment of silence] 7 00:00:43,450 --> 00:00:45,450 Thank you. 8 00:00:51,826 --> 00:00:52,826 Please rise if you are able. 9 00:00:52,826 --> 00:00:54,294 >>> I pledge allegiance to the 10 00:00:54,294 --> 00:00:57,894 flag of the united states of 11 00:01:00,801 --> 00:01:02,202 america and to the republic for 12 00:01:02,202 --> 00:01:02,804 which it stands, one nation 13 00:01:02,804 --> 00:01:05,204 under GOD, indivisible, with 14 00:01:11,578 --> 00:01:12,646 liberty and justice for all. 15 00:01:12,646 --> 00:01:13,981 >> Chair Jefferson: before we 16 00:01:13,981 --> 00:01:16,160 begin I want to acknowledge we 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,216 have a new member on the dais. 18 00:01:22,856 --> 00:01:23,857 He was previously mentioned 19 00:01:23,857 --> 00:01:24,524 during our finance and budget 20 00:01:24,524 --> 00:01:25,492 committee meeting, but this is 21 00:01:25,492 --> 00:01:28,492 the start of the official 22 00:01:30,297 --> 00:01:31,310 meeting. 23 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:32,320 I wanted to take a quick moment 24 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:33,300 to welcome george stewart who 25 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:33,600 is a new gainesville district 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,600 supervisor. 27 00:01:36,937 --> 00:01:37,938 So welcome. 28 00:01:37,938 --> 00:01:40,307 >> George Stewart: thank you 29 00:01:40,307 --> 00:01:41,700 very much MADAM Chair. 30 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:44,607 To my fellow board members and 31 00:01:45,212 --> 00:01:48,812 staff back here, I have some 32 00:01:50,584 --> 00:01:51,618 pictures to fill from the 33 00:01:51,618 --> 00:01:52,186 predecessor who sat in the seat 34 00:01:52,186 --> 00:01:52,753 before me and I'm looking 35 00:01:52,753 --> 00:01:54,821 forward to getting to work. 36 00:01:54,821 --> 00:01:55,220 Thank you 37 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:56,560 . 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:56,991 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 39 00:01:56,991 --> 00:01:57,991 we are going to move to agenda 40 00:01:57,991 --> 00:02:01,591 item number three and that is 41 00:02:02,263 --> 00:02:02,930 the approval of minutes. 42 00:02:02,930 --> 00:02:03,263 MAY I have a motion for items 43 00:02:03,263 --> 00:02:04,640 3a, b and c? 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,266 >> Andrea Bailey: so moved. 45 00:02:05,266 --> 00:02:06,767 > Vice Chair Boddye: second. 46 00:02:06,767 --> 00:02:07,670 >> Chair Jefferson: any 47 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:07,835 discussion? 48 00:02:07,835 --> 00:02:12,350 If not, I would like to call 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:16,810 for the vote. 50 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:18,810 >> vote unanimous supervisors 51 00:02:23,484 --> 00:02:24,484 to abstaining from vote. 52 00:02:24,484 --> 00:02:25,185 >> Chair Jefferson: we are 53 00:02:25,185 --> 00:02:26,220 going to move to agenda item 54 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:26,787 for and that is accommodations 55 00:02:26,787 --> 00:02:27,621 and proclamations. 56 00:02:27,621 --> 00:02:31,821 I would like to note that for 57 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:33,930 4c there is a request to 58 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:34,940 reschedule that for DECEMBER so 59 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:34,361 we will not be taking vote on 60 00:02:34,361 --> 00:02:35,280 4c today. 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,828 So I would like to get a motion 62 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:47,270 for fort a, b, d through f. 63 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:48,942 >> I think it might be 4d. 64 00:02:48,942 --> 00:02:49,142 >> Chair Jefferson: I'm so 65 00:02:49,142 --> 00:02:51,142 sorry. 66 00:02:53,713 --> 00:02:54,381 I circled the wrong one. 67 00:02:54,381 --> 00:02:58,581 I would like to get a motion 68 00:03:04,224 --> 00:03:08,228 for b, c, d and f. Any 69 00:03:08,228 --> 00:03:09,796 discussion on these items? 70 00:03:09,796 --> 00:03:12,466 Let's go ahead and take a vote 71 00:03:12,466 --> 00:03:13,133 . 72 00:03:13,133 --> 00:03:15,133 >> vote unanimous. 73 00:03:15,301 --> 00:03:18,301 >> Chair Jefferson: from what I 74 00:03:22,776 --> 00:03:23,744 understand for item 4b and that 75 00:03:23,744 --> 00:03:24,444 is to commemorate the life and 76 00:03:24,444 --> 00:03:25,279 legacy of gerald e. Connolly, 77 00:03:25,279 --> 00:03:28,279 supervisor bailey, you want to 78 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:30,316 take a picture with everyone? 79 00:03:30,316 --> 00:03:30,717 >> Andrea Bailey: with your 80 00:03:30,717 --> 00:03:32,717 permission. 81 00:03:34,221 --> 00:03:35,154 >> Chair Jefferson: yes. 82 00:03:35,154 --> 00:03:36,156 What we can do is we will go 83 00:03:36,156 --> 00:03:37,690 through all of these and take a 84 00:03:37,690 --> 00:03:42,490 photo and we will hold for b we 85 00:03:43,196 --> 00:03:44,630 will hold for the very end. 86 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:47,630 > Andrea Bailey: if I made 87 00:03:47,701 --> 00:03:48,335 make a request on that. 88 00:03:48,335 --> 00:03:49,169 Misses, I'm not sure mrs. 89 00:03:49,169 --> 00:03:51,104 conley is in the audience yet 90 00:03:51,104 --> 00:03:51,438 and karen is outside waiting 91 00:03:51,438 --> 00:03:52,105 for her. 92 00:03:52,105 --> 00:03:56,305 So if we could take her last. 93 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:02,815 >> Chair Jefferson: that's what 94 00:04:02,815 --> 00:04:03,316 I am saying. 95 00:04:03,316 --> 00:04:04,500 We will take those last. 96 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:04,818 So I'm going to go down and you 97 00:04:04,818 --> 00:04:05,319 have a couple of here, 98 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:06,530 supervisor bailey. 99 00:04:06,530 --> 00:04:09,900 If you could join me for 4c and 100 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,690 then you will come down one 101 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:44,557 supervisor, lisa families here. 102 00:04:44,557 --> 00:04:45,458 Do we have representatives from 103 00:04:45,458 --> 00:04:47,858 mount olive baptist church 104 00:05:03,610 --> 00:05:04,444 here? 105 00:05:04,444 --> 00:05:05,145 Thank you for coming. 106 00:05:05,145 --> 00:05:05,745 >> Chair Jefferson: commend 107 00:05:05,745 --> 00:05:08,745 mount olive baptist church on 108 00:05:11,284 --> 00:05:12,285 their 110th anniversary. 109 00:05:12,285 --> 00:05:13,286 Mount olive was founded in 110 00:05:13,286 --> 00:05:13,853 woodbridge virginia on OCTOBER 111 00:05:13,853 --> 00:05:14,654 17, 1915 by members of the 112 00:05:14,654 --> 00:05:16,654 mission sunday school. 113 00:05:17,857 --> 00:05:20,257 Since MARCH 3, 2001 mount olive 114 00:05:21,694 --> 00:05:22,562 baptist church has been led by 115 00:05:22,562 --> 00:05:23,562 reverend ellis who created 116 00:05:23,562 --> 00:05:25,562 pioneering and progressive 117 00:05:39,645 --> 00:05:40,680 ministries to develop the 118 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,347 membership of the church on is 119 00:05:41,347 --> 00:05:42,281 truly dedicated and determined 120 00:05:42,281 --> 00:05:43,182 to lead his flock by example. 121 00:05:43,182 --> 00:05:44,150 Under the spiritual guidance of 122 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:44,951 reverend ellis, not all of 123 00:05:44,951 --> 00:05:45,618 continues its growth as a 124 00:05:45,618 --> 00:05:46,353 church, as one family that 125 00:05:46,353 --> 00:05:46,686 believes in caring, sharing and 126 00:05:46,686 --> 00:05:48,686 loving. 127 00:05:52,825 --> 00:05:53,760 Over the course of its 128 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,761 long history, the mount olive 129 00:05:54,761 --> 00:05:55,528 baptist church congregation has 130 00:05:55,528 --> 00:05:56,329 navigated through rough seas, 131 00:05:56,329 --> 00:05:57,263 dark nights and is faced the 132 00:05:57,263 --> 00:05:58,231 tempest and many storms, but 133 00:05:58,231 --> 00:05:58,798 through adult they learn to 134 00:05:58,798 --> 00:06:00,567 trust in their faith in one 135 00:06:00,567 --> 00:06:01,201 another. 136 00:06:01,201 --> 00:06:02,670 Therefore today the prince 137 00:06:02,670 --> 00:06:03,690 william county board of 138 00:06:03,690 --> 00:06:03,703 supervisors hereby commends the 139 00:06:03,703 --> 00:06:04,604 congregation amount all the 140 00:06:04,604 --> 00:06:05,700 baptist church on its 110th 141 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:07,700 anniversary. 142 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:10,743 Reverend ellis, do you have any 143 00:06:10,743 --> 00:06:11,277 words for us? 144 00:06:11,277 --> 00:06:14,277 Knowing you are a pastor. 145 00:06:15,214 --> 00:06:15,815 Let's keep it brief. 146 00:06:15,815 --> 00:06:16,115 >> it's dangerous 147 00:06:16,115 --> 00:06:17,449 to give a 148 00:06:17,449 --> 00:06:19,449 pastor a microphone. 149 00:06:24,357 --> 00:06:26,920 Thank you so much 150 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,360 . 151 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:27,927 Thank you CHAIRMAN Jefferson 152 00:06:27,927 --> 00:06:29,280 then to the prince william 153 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:29,896 county board of supervisors on 154 00:06:29,896 --> 00:06:30,596 those who are present. 155 00:06:30,596 --> 00:06:34,196 Thank you so much for this 156 00:06:36,669 --> 00:06:37,303 honor. 157 00:06:37,303 --> 00:06:38,237 I always saw myself as a 158 00:06:38,237 --> 00:06:38,671 football player, obviously not 159 00:06:38,671 --> 00:06:39,739 in statute. 160 00:06:39,739 --> 00:06:40,406 Meaning is a pastor you get to 161 00:06:40,406 --> 00:06:41,373 be face of the congregation, 162 00:06:41,373 --> 00:06:42,308 but in reality he represents 163 00:06:42,308 --> 00:06:43,142 some dedicated and faithful 164 00:06:43,142 --> 00:06:46,742 people who are of course not 165 00:06:47,446 --> 00:06:48,547 here today. 166 00:06:48,547 --> 00:06:49,581 So I want to say thank you for 167 00:06:49,581 --> 00:06:50,416 recognizing and honoring the 168 00:06:50,416 --> 00:06:51,500 memory, the faith, and the 169 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:52,418 courage little known to many 170 00:06:52,418 --> 00:06:54,418 people 171 00:06:58,157 --> 00:06:58,858 , the chin family members 172 00:06:58,858 --> 00:06:59,158 establishment all the baptist 173 00:06:59,158 --> 00:06:59,758 church. 174 00:06:59,758 --> 00:07:02,758 Nd of course the name 175 00:07:04,464 --> 00:07:04,697 mary jane graces are aquatic in 176 00:07:04,697 --> 00:07:05,498 library. 177 00:07:05,498 --> 00:07:07,633 It was her children who start 178 00:07:07,633 --> 00:07:08,334 amount all the baptist church 179 00:07:08,334 --> 00:07:11,934 and whose shoulders I now stand 180 00:07:15,874 --> 00:07:16,709 upon. 181 00:07:16,709 --> 00:07:17,343 With the assistance of the 182 00:07:17,343 --> 00:07:18,177 neabsco baptist church, all of 183 00:07:18,177 --> 00:07:19,245 us had a part in this community 184 00:07:19,245 --> 00:07:19,846 OCTOBER 17, 1915. 185 00:07:19,846 --> 00:07:21,147 So thank you all so much for 186 00:07:21,147 --> 00:07:22,147 honoring us. 187 00:07:22,147 --> 00:07:25,517 And I'm just so privileged to 188 00:07:25,517 --> 00:07:26,486 accept this on behalf of know 189 00:07:26,486 --> 00:07:28,886 all of baptist church 190 00:07:31,257 --> 00:07:31,757 congregation. 191 00:07:31,757 --> 00:07:32,580 Thank you so much. 192 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:32,959 [Applause] 193 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:33,792 >> Chair Jefferson: and then we 194 00:07:33,792 --> 00:07:36,792 will take a quick photo. 195 00:07:55,581 --> 00:07:56,282 >> Chair Jefferson: we are 196 00:07:56,282 --> 00:07:57,216 going to hold 4b and then 4c 197 00:07:57,216 --> 00:08:00,216 said, supervisor bailey, if you 198 00:08:01,921 --> 00:08:02,921 would come down for that. 199 00:08:02,921 --> 00:08:04,189 And anyone associated with the 200 00:08:04,189 --> 00:08:04,256 family caregivers proclamation 201 00:08:04,256 --> 00:08:06,256 . 202 00:08:08,227 --> 00:08:08,861 National family caregivers 203 00:08:08,861 --> 00:08:11,861 month, please come to the 204 00:08:21,606 --> 00:08:22,274 podium. 205 00:08:22,274 --> 00:08:22,675 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you 206 00:08:22,675 --> 00:08:23,575 MADAM Chair. 207 00:08:23,575 --> 00:08:24,643 It's a pleasure to do this 208 00:08:24,643 --> 00:08:26,643 today. 209 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:31,517 As a caregiver for my mom, it's 210 00:08:31,517 --> 00:08:32,451 always a blessing first of all 211 00:08:32,451 --> 00:08:33,185 to be a caregiver but to 212 00:08:33,185 --> 00:08:36,185 acknowledge those who focus on 213 00:08:36,722 --> 00:08:39,722 the art and the prayerful 214 00:08:44,863 --> 00:08:45,865 service of caregiving. 215 00:08:45,865 --> 00:08:46,431 So with that, family caregivers 216 00:08:46,431 --> 00:08:47,366 are the backbone of our 217 00:08:47,366 --> 00:08:47,933 communities providing 218 00:08:47,933 --> 00:08:48,868 compassion and care and 219 00:08:48,868 --> 00:08:51,700 unwavering support to loved 220 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:54,440 ones who are aging, ill, or 221 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,441 living with disabilities. 222 00:08:55,441 --> 00:08:58,441 They provide billions of hours 223 00:09:01,948 --> 00:09:02,848 of unpaid care every year. 224 00:09:02,848 --> 00:09:03,716 Often balancing work, family 225 00:09:03,716 --> 00:09:04,616 life and health challenges 226 00:09:04,616 --> 00:09:04,683 along the way 227 00:09:04,683 --> 00:09:05,651 . 228 00:09:05,651 --> 00:09:07,119 NOVEMBER is recognized 229 00:09:07,119 --> 00:09:08,520 nationally as a family 230 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:08,753 caregivers month 231 00:09:08,753 --> 00:09:10,753 , time to 232 00:09:11,290 --> 00:09:12,580 celebrate the selfless 233 00:09:12,580 --> 00:09:14,580 dedication 234 00:09:15,994 --> 00:09:16,661 , strength, and 235 00:09:16,661 --> 00:09:18,897 commitment and love of millions 236 00:09:18,897 --> 00:09:20,666 of americans who care for 237 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:22,134 family members and friends 238 00:09:22,134 --> 00:09:24,134 . 239 00:09:24,503 --> 00:09:26,903 my recognizing national family 240 00:09:32,377 --> 00:09:33,245 caregivers month, we shine a 241 00:09:33,245 --> 00:09:34,179 light on their experiences and 242 00:09:34,179 --> 00:09:35,180 provided direct pathway to the 243 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:36,114 resources, community, and 244 00:09:36,114 --> 00:09:36,848 support they deserve. 245 00:09:36,848 --> 00:09:37,649 Therefore today, the prince 246 00:09:37,649 --> 00:09:40,490 william county board of 247 00:09:42,187 --> 00:09:43,880 supervisors hereby proclaims 248 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,880 NOVEMBER 2025 as national 249 00:09:45,457 --> 00:09:46,258 family caregivers month in 250 00:09:46,258 --> 00:09:46,658 prince william county. 251 00:09:46,658 --> 00:09:48,658 Congratulations 252 00:09:58,102 --> 00:09:58,737 . 253 00:09:58,737 --> 00:09:59,604 >> good afternoon manager 254 00:09:59,604 --> 00:09:59,805 jefferson the members of the 255 00:09:59,805 --> 00:10:00,639 board. 256 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:01,640 Director of social services. 257 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,840 Today I have with me my deputy 258 00:10:07,946 --> 00:10:09,470 director 259 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:09,748 , [Name] The assistant 260 00:10:09,748 --> 00:10:10,716 director or advocacy prevention 261 00:10:10,716 --> 00:10:12,851 and protection better known as 262 00:10:12,851 --> 00:10:14,851 app. 263 00:10:16,288 --> 00:10:18,857 Josh is here from aging. 264 00:10:18,857 --> 00:10:18,924 And laura 265 00:10:18,924 --> 00:10:20,826 . 266 00:10:20,826 --> 00:10:21,930 Don. 267 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:22,994 Thank you. 268 00:10:22,994 --> 00:10:23,194 Adult daycare. 269 00:10:23,194 --> 00:10:25,194 Great. 270 00:10:26,631 --> 00:10:27,332 Thank you. 271 00:10:27,332 --> 00:10:30,932 We are here today to jointly 272 00:10:33,505 --> 00:10:34,506 accept this proclamation. 273 00:10:34,506 --> 00:10:35,730 Caregivers, under their family 274 00:10:35,730 --> 00:10:36,700 members, friends and 275 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:36,741 professional staff, give 276 00:10:36,741 --> 00:10:37,509 extraordinary support older 277 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:39,310 adult, individuals with 278 00:10:39,310 --> 00:10:41,710 disabilities and those who 279 00:10:42,581 --> 00:10:43,615 cannot care for themselves. 280 00:10:43,615 --> 00:10:44,482 I understand the importance of 281 00:10:44,482 --> 00:10:46,170 the roll and responsibility of 282 00:10:46,170 --> 00:10:48,170 being a caretaker. 283 00:10:51,890 --> 00:10:52,891 As I was my mother's caretaker 284 00:10:52,891 --> 00:10:53,725 for several years at the age of 285 00:10:53,725 --> 00:10:54,590 23 after she had a massive 286 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:56,590 stroke. 287 00:10:58,129 --> 00:10:58,730 Sometimes as caregivers you MAY 288 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:59,631 feel forgotten as a lotta 289 00:10:59,631 --> 00:11:01,800 emphasis MAY be placed on 290 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,000 individuals who are new to 291 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,935 care. 292 00:11:03,935 --> 00:11:04,569 The love and commitment and 293 00:11:04,569 --> 00:11:05,370 support that is provided is 294 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:07,370 very important much 295 00:11:07,405 --> 00:11:09,405 appreciated. 296 00:11:13,845 --> 00:11:14,846 I would like to thank ras team, 297 00:11:14,846 --> 00:11:16,114 in-home providers, community 298 00:11:16,114 --> 00:11:16,681 partners and friends of family 299 00:11:16,681 --> 00:11:20,281 who show up every day to 300 00:11:20,451 --> 00:11:21,286 provide support and care. 301 00:11:21,286 --> 00:11:22,286 Thank you again for this 302 00:11:22,286 --> 00:11:24,686 proclamation in your continued 303 00:11:26,358 --> 00:11:27,325 support to allow us to serve 304 00:11:27,325 --> 00:11:29,725 constituents of the county. 305 00:11:33,631 --> 00:11:34,732 [Applause] 306 00:11:34,732 --> 00:11:37,132 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 307 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:53,210 Let's go take a photo. 308 00:12:53,210 --> 00:12:53,879 >> Chair Jefferson: next we 309 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:54,712 have 4e to proclaim NOVEMBER 310 00:12:54,712 --> 00:12:55,714 2029 small business saturday. 311 00:12:55,714 --> 00:12:56,714 Will everyone associated with 312 00:12:56,714 --> 00:12:59,114 small business saturday please 313 00:13:00,852 --> 00:13:01,519 come forward? 314 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:04,519 Do we have economic development 315 00:13:09,427 --> 00:13:09,694 here? 316 00:13:09,694 --> 00:13:10,461 All right. 317 00:13:10,461 --> 00:13:11,620 I will go ahead and read it. 318 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:12,290 Small business saturday 319 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:12,897 celebrated annual between black 320 00:13:12,897 --> 00:13:13,898 friday and cyber monday is a 321 00:13:13,898 --> 00:13:16,898 day dedicated to supporting the 322 00:13:27,912 --> 00:13:28,913 small businesses that help 323 00:13:28,913 --> 00:13:29,914 create jobs, boost the economy, 324 00:13:29,914 --> 00:13:30,381 and keep communities thriving 325 00:13:30,381 --> 00:13:31,282 across the country. 326 00:13:31,282 --> 00:13:32,250 Since 2010 small business 327 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:32,950 saturday has illustrated the 328 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:33,751 significance of supporting 329 00:13:33,751 --> 00:13:34,752 small independently owned 330 00:13:34,752 --> 00:13:35,519 businesses across the country. 331 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:36,320 Prince william county through 332 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,922 the county department of 333 00:13:37,922 --> 00:13:38,856 economic development is 334 00:13:38,856 --> 00:13:39,657 committed to supporting small 335 00:13:39,657 --> 00:13:40,558 businesses to grading jobs and 336 00:13:40,558 --> 00:13:42,827 to preserving our communities 337 00:13:42,827 --> 00:13:43,828 unique culture prince william 338 00:13:43,828 --> 00:13:45,563 county small business program 339 00:13:45,563 --> 00:13:47,563 established in DECEMBER 2019 340 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:50,768 has assistant small businesses 341 00:13:50,768 --> 00:13:51,535 to great when and 63 milena p 342 00:13:51,535 --> 00:13:53,705 prince william county is 343 00:13:53,705 --> 00:13:54,705 joining local governments 344 00:13:54,705 --> 00:13:55,706 throughout the country to 345 00:13:55,706 --> 00:13:57,642 acknowledge and celebrate small 346 00:13:57,642 --> 00:13:58,275 business saturday. 347 00:13:58,275 --> 00:13:59,143 Therefore today the prince 348 00:13:59,143 --> 00:14:01,543 william county board of 349 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:09,353 supervisors hereby proclaim 350 00:14:09,353 --> 00:14:10,354 saturday, NOVEMBER 29, 2025 a 351 00:14:10,354 --> 00:14:11,210 small business saturday and 352 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:11,856 encourages our community 353 00:14:11,856 --> 00:14:12,856 support small businesses on 354 00:14:12,856 --> 00:14:15,256 small business saturday and 355 00:14:16,127 --> 00:14:17,128 throughout the year. 356 00:14:17,128 --> 00:14:17,862 Going to go international 357 00:14:17,862 --> 00:14:21,462 adoption date and then we will 358 00:14:24,702 --> 00:14:25,703 get back to 4b. 359 00:14:25,703 --> 00:14:26,403 With everyone associated with 360 00:14:26,403 --> 00:14:28,803 national adoption date please 361 00:14:48,926 --> 00:14:49,193 come forward? 362 00:14:49,193 --> 00:14:49,927 All right. 363 00:14:49,927 --> 00:14:50,928 Prince william county 364 00:14:50,928 --> 00:14:52,162 recognizes the importance of 365 00:14:52,162 --> 00:14:52,963 giving children permanent, 366 00:14:52,963 --> 00:14:53,230 safe, and loving families to 367 00:14:53,230 --> 00:14:54,131 adoption. 368 00:14:54,131 --> 00:14:56,531 More than 100,000 children and 369 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:58,736 the nazis foster care system 370 00:14:58,736 --> 00:14:59,504 are waiting to be adopted. 371 00:14:59,504 --> 00:15:02,504 More than 800 children in the 372 00:15:04,174 --> 00:15:05,760 virginia foster care system are 373 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:05,776 waiting to be adopted in more 374 00:15:05,776 --> 00:15:06,577 than 15 children in the prince 375 00:15:06,577 --> 00:15:08,977 william county foster care 376 00:15:11,382 --> 00:15:11,648 system have or have the goal of 377 00:15:11,648 --> 00:15:12,382 adoption. 378 00:15:12,382 --> 00:15:15,382 To help these children find 379 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,488 permanent nurturing families 380 00:15:17,488 --> 00:15:18,422 , 381 00:15:18,422 --> 00:15:19,890 the local courts of the 31st 382 00:15:19,890 --> 00:15:19,923 judicial district will open 383 00:15:19,923 --> 00:15:22,323 their doors to celebrate 384 00:15:22,693 --> 00:15:23,661 national adoption day saturday, 385 00:15:23,661 --> 00:15:25,661 NOVEMBER 22, 2025, to finalize 386 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:27,164 a mechanized the adoptions of 387 00:15:27,164 --> 00:15:28,198 local children and join other 388 00:15:28,198 --> 00:15:30,598 organizations to celebrate all 389 00:15:31,369 --> 00:15:32,936 adoptions 390 00:15:32,936 --> 00:15:33,904 . 391 00:15:33,904 --> 00:15:34,438 Therefore today the prince 392 00:15:34,438 --> 00:15:35,406 william county board of 393 00:15:35,406 --> 00:15:36,407 supervisors hereby joins the 394 00:15:36,407 --> 00:15:37,400 department of social services 395 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,400 proclaiming NOVEMBER 22, 2025, 396 00:15:41,445 --> 00:15:42,446 as national adoption day. 397 00:15:42,446 --> 00:15:44,448 Prince william county will 398 00:15:44,448 --> 00:15:45,449 celebrate NOVEMBER 22, 2025. 399 00:15:45,449 --> 00:15:47,849 Prince william county will 400 00:15:48,850 --> 00:15:50,954 continue to urge all citizens 401 00:15:50,954 --> 00:15:51,889 to join in a national effort to 402 00:15:51,889 --> 00:15:54,289 raise awareness about the 403 00:15:54,691 --> 00:15:55,459 importance of adoption. 404 00:15:55,459 --> 00:15:59,659 Do you have any words he would 405 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,400 like to say? 406 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,602 >> good afternoon again MADAM 407 00:16:04,602 --> 00:16:08,202 Chair and members of the board. 408 00:16:10,707 --> 00:16:11,441 Director of social services. 409 00:16:11,441 --> 00:16:15,641 Today I have with me my team, 410 00:16:16,513 --> 00:16:18,682 deputy director holly handy, 411 00:16:18,682 --> 00:16:19,683 jessica Mccauley who is 412 00:16:19,683 --> 00:16:19,917 assistant director of family 413 00:16:19,917 --> 00:16:20,317 support 414 00:16:20,317 --> 00:16:21,385 services, diane human 415 00:16:21,385 --> 00:16:23,785 services manager, fan support 416 00:16:24,254 --> 00:16:26,654 services unit and cheryl 417 00:16:27,123 --> 00:16:27,857 Mcmullen who is a services 418 00:16:27,857 --> 00:16:29,857 caseworker. 419 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:33,697 Both for the adoption program. 420 00:16:33,697 --> 00:16:35,697 Prince william county 421 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:36,667 department of social services 422 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:39,469 is proud of the work we do to 423 00:16:39,469 --> 00:16:42,469 promote safety for children for 424 00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:45,976 whom we serve and protect. 425 00:16:45,976 --> 00:16:46,877 It is our thought children who 426 00:16:46,877 --> 00:16:47,744 live in permanent homes, caring 427 00:16:47,744 --> 00:16:48,379 adoptive parents have an 428 00:16:48,379 --> 00:16:50,414 opportunity to thrive and grow 429 00:16:50,414 --> 00:16:51,382 into healthy adults. 430 00:16:51,382 --> 00:16:52,850 Adoption is an alternative that 431 00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:55,250 provides family life for 432 00:16:59,156 --> 00:16:59,389 children who can biological 433 00:16:59,389 --> 00:16:59,957 parents. 434 00:16:59,957 --> 00:17:00,991 T provides an 435 00:17:00,991 --> 00:17:02,920 opportunity for those children 436 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:02,192 to find forever homes 437 00:17:02,192 --> 00:17:02,893 . 438 00:17:02,893 --> 00:17:05,295 We all desire to be connected 439 00:17:05,295 --> 00:17:06,290 to someone, and family is the 440 00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:08,499 foundation that keeps us with 441 00:17:08,499 --> 00:17:09,166 it. 442 00:17:09,166 --> 00:17:11,566 This saturday is mentioned 443 00:17:12,102 --> 00:17:13,804 NOVEMBER 22 we will celebrate 444 00:17:13,804 --> 00:17:16,804 our 22nd national adoption date 445 00:17:18,342 --> 00:17:19,760 and recognize nine families 446 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:19,676 that will become a forever home 447 00:17:19,676 --> 00:17:19,743 for a child 448 00:17:19,743 --> 00:17:21,743 . 449 00:17:25,716 --> 00:17:26,216 I'm hoping you will be able to 450 00:17:26,216 --> 00:17:27,217 celebrate with us. 451 00:17:27,217 --> 00:17:28,218 I am proud to accept the 452 00:17:28,218 --> 00:17:31,218 proclamation on behalf of the 453 00:17:31,821 --> 00:17:33,821 department 454 00:17:34,224 --> 00:17:35,225 , and as always, we 455 00:17:35,225 --> 00:17:35,859 thank you for your continued 456 00:17:35,859 --> 00:17:36,726 support and the recognition for 457 00:17:36,726 --> 00:17:36,994 the work that we do. 458 00:17:36,994 --> 00:17:38,994 Thank you. 459 00:17:41,965 --> 00:17:42,966 [Applause] 460 00:17:42,966 --> 00:17:45,366 >> Chair Jefferson: let's go 461 00:18:24,174 --> 00:18:25,508 ahead and take another photo. 462 00:18:25,508 --> 00:18:27,508 All right. 463 00:18:29,112 --> 00:18:29,780 And supervisor bailey 464 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:31,780 , if you 465 00:18:33,283 --> 00:18:33,916 and MRS. Connolly can come up 466 00:18:33,916 --> 00:18:36,953 and anyone else you have and 467 00:18:36,953 --> 00:18:41,153 then we will take a picture for 468 00:18:48,631 --> 00:18:50,934 this out in the atrium. 469 00:18:50,934 --> 00:18:53,334 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you 470 00:18:58,700 --> 00:18:59,108 MADAM Chair. 471 00:18:59,108 --> 00:19:00,100 It is the excitement and great 472 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:01,411 joy I present this to our 473 00:19:01,411 --> 00:19:02,412 citizens today. 474 00:19:02,412 --> 00:19:02,946 On behalf of our friend jerry 475 00:19:02,946 --> 00:19:04,946 connolly. 476 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,830 Congressman gerald e. Connolly 477 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:09,830 , 478 00:19:11,588 --> 00:19:12,455 jerry as we know him, dedicated 479 00:19:12,455 --> 00:19:13,123 his life to public service 480 00:19:13,123 --> 00:19:15,523 representing the people of 481 00:19:22,164 --> 00:19:22,799 northern virginia with vision, 482 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:23,666 integrity, love, and an 483 00:19:23,666 --> 00:19:23,967 unwavering commitment to the 484 00:19:23,967 --> 00:19:24,800 common good. 485 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,702 Is a member of the united 486 00:19:25,702 --> 00:19:26,169 states house of representatives 487 00:19:26,169 --> 00:19:28,138 for virginia's 11th 488 00:19:28,138 --> 00:19:29,105 congressional district, 489 00:19:29,105 --> 00:19:30,907 congressman connolly worked 490 00:19:30,907 --> 00:19:33,307 tirelessly to ensure prince 491 00:19:33,610 --> 00:19:35,478 william county in the entire 492 00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:36,112 northern virginia region 493 00:19:36,112 --> 00:19:38,512 received a strong federal 494 00:19:39,916 --> 00:19:40,917 advocacy on critical issues 495 00:19:40,917 --> 00:19:41,585 such as transportation 496 00:19:41,585 --> 00:19:42,840 infrastructure 497 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,840 , economic 498 00:19:44,221 --> 00:19:46,189 development 499 00:19:46,189 --> 00:19:48,189 , veteran services, 500 00:19:52,895 --> 00:19:53,463 and public education. 501 00:19:53,463 --> 00:19:54,397 He was instrumental in 502 00:19:54,397 --> 00:19:55,231 advancing regional 503 00:19:55,231 --> 00:19:56,933 transportation initiatives such 504 00:19:56,933 --> 00:19:59,201 as improvements to the I-95 505 00:19:59,201 --> 00:19:59,736 corridor 506 00:19:59,736 --> 00:20:01,736 , expansion of the 507 00:20:03,540 --> 00:20:03,673 virginia railway express 508 00:20:03,673 --> 00:20:04,574 , and 509 00:20:04,574 --> 00:20:06,809 the extension of mass transit 510 00:20:06,809 --> 00:20:06,876 options 511 00:20:06,876 --> 00:20:08,876 . 512 00:20:12,482 --> 00:20:13,216 Enhancing mobility and economic 513 00:20:13,216 --> 00:20:13,983 opportunity for residents of 514 00:20:13,983 --> 00:20:14,984 prince william county. 515 00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:15,718 Congressman connolly was a 516 00:20:15,718 --> 00:20:18,118 tireless advocate for public 517 00:20:20,156 --> 00:20:22,424 service, federal employees, and 518 00:20:22,424 --> 00:20:23,590 military families recognizing 519 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:24,994 their contributions to the 520 00:20:24,994 --> 00:20:26,996 nation and ensuring prince 521 00:20:26,996 --> 00:20:27,530 william county 522 00:20:27,530 --> 00:20:29,530 , home to the 523 00:20:30,399 --> 00:20:32,799 thousands of these individuals, 524 00:20:33,970 --> 00:20:36,970 was well represented and well 525 00:20:39,175 --> 00:20:39,909 served. 526 00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:40,810 And therefore today the prince 527 00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:43,810 william county board of county 528 00:20:43,980 --> 00:20:45,980 supervisors hereby commends, 529 00:20:46,816 --> 00:20:48,785 honors, and remembers 530 00:20:48,785 --> 00:20:50,320 congressman gerald e. Connolly 531 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720 for his exemplary public 532 00:20:54,157 --> 00:20:54,990 service, his steadfast advocacy 533 00:20:54,990 --> 00:20:57,990 for the people of northern 534 00:20:58,861 --> 00:20:59,562 virginia, and his enduring 535 00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:01,962 contributions to the progress 536 00:21:02,431 --> 00:21:03,232 and prosperity of prince 537 00:21:03,232 --> 00:21:05,232 william county. 538 00:21:08,638 --> 00:21:09,238 Is wife, ladies and gentlemen. 539 00:21:09,238 --> 00:21:11,238 [Applause] 540 00:21:12,341 --> 00:21:14,677 >> thank you very much 541 00:21:14,677 --> 00:21:15,411 supervisor bailey. 542 00:21:15,411 --> 00:21:18,411 Thank you MADAM CHAIRMAN and 543 00:21:22,318 --> 00:21:22,818 all the members of the board 544 00:21:22,818 --> 00:21:23,452 and supervisors. 545 00:21:23,452 --> 00:21:24,387 And bring greetings from my 546 00:21:24,387 --> 00:21:25,321 daughter who you don't want to 547 00:21:25,321 --> 00:21:25,521 have in person because she is 548 00:21:25,521 --> 00:21:27,521 sick. 549 00:21:27,757 --> 00:21:31,357 We both thank you for this 550 00:21:34,697 --> 00:21:34,864 recognition, this honor 551 00:21:34,864 --> 00:21:35,531 . 552 00:21:35,531 --> 00:21:36,432 You should know one of the 553 00:21:36,432 --> 00:21:37,299 saddest days of jerry's life 554 00:21:37,299 --> 00:21:40,299 was when he was redistricted 555 00:21:40,469 --> 00:21:41,470 out of prince william county. 556 00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:42,137 He loved this community and he 557 00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:44,730 loved spending time here with 558 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:44,706 you all. 559 00:21:44,706 --> 00:21:47,706 Friday marks six months since 560 00:21:50,312 --> 00:21:51,513 he passed. 561 00:21:51,513 --> 00:21:52,247 Jerry was fundamentally as a 562 00:21:52,247 --> 00:21:55,847 human being and as a public 563 00:21:57,152 --> 00:21:57,886 servant others centered. 564 00:21:57,886 --> 00:22:02,860 When he asked you how are you, 565 00:22:04,526 --> 00:22:05,494 how are you doing, he actually 566 00:22:05,494 --> 00:22:06,329 wanted to hear the answered. 567 00:22:06,329 --> 00:22:06,996 It mattered to him. 568 00:22:06,996 --> 00:22:07,997 It matter that if you had a 569 00:22:07,997 --> 00:22:09,932 problem 570 00:22:09,932 --> 00:22:11,167 , if you had an issue, 571 00:22:11,167 --> 00:22:11,901 mother regardless of your party 572 00:22:11,901 --> 00:22:14,670 or your circumstances, you are 573 00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:15,571 a constituent of his or even 574 00:22:15,571 --> 00:22:19,171 somebody he worked with or were 575 00:22:22,144 --> 00:22:22,812 new that he was able to help. 576 00:22:22,812 --> 00:22:27,612 He would step in to try to make 577 00:22:29,752 --> 00:22:30,486 a difference. 578 00:22:30,486 --> 00:22:31,987 Jerry understood what my needs 579 00:22:31,987 --> 00:22:35,458 are, what my once are do not 580 00:22:35,458 --> 00:22:36,993 help further our country or 581 00:22:36,993 --> 00:22:38,993 democracy. 582 00:22:39,895 --> 00:22:40,262 He understood public service is 583 00:22:40,262 --> 00:22:42,262 about the other. 584 00:22:46,635 --> 00:22:47,503 They 585 00:22:47,503 --> 00:22:47,770 understood that effectiveness 586 00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:48,604 mattered. 587 00:22:48,604 --> 00:22:49,705 That getting elected was just 588 00:22:49,705 --> 00:22:50,539 getting the job. 589 00:22:50,539 --> 00:22:52,730 then you had to do it once he 590 00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:54,730 were elected. 591 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:58,680 I cannot thank you enough for 592 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,515 this honor. 593 00:22:59,515 --> 00:23:00,349 You all hold a special place in 594 00:23:00,349 --> 00:23:00,549 our hearts as well. 595 00:23:00,549 --> 00:23:02,549 Nd I want 596 00:23:05,187 --> 00:23:06,255 to also thank you for the work 597 00:23:06,255 --> 00:23:06,622 you do as others centered 598 00:23:06,622 --> 00:23:08,622 public servants. 599 00:23:13,195 --> 00:23:13,863 You make a difference. 600 00:23:13,863 --> 00:23:14,797 Please keep up the good work 601 00:23:14,797 --> 00:23:15,464 and in jerry's name, in your 602 00:23:15,464 --> 00:23:18,464 own names, it doesn't matter. 603 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:22,871 In the publix name it matters. 604 00:23:22,871 --> 00:23:23,172 Thank you so much. 605 00:23:23,172 --> 00:23:23,872 [Applause] 606 00:23:23,872 --> 00:23:24,673 >> Chair Jefferson: I would 607 00:23:24,673 --> 00:23:25,574 like to invite all the board 608 00:23:25,574 --> 00:23:29,174 members to come down for this 609 00:23:58,826 --> 00:23:59,920 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 610 00:23:59,920 --> 00:23:59,960 everyone. 611 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:00,828 We are moving to agenda item 612 00:24:00,828 --> 00:24:01,295 number five and that is the 613 00:24:01,295 --> 00:24:03,295 consent agenda. 614 00:24:10,771 --> 00:24:11,639 I wanted to 615 00:24:11,639 --> 00:24:12,539 see if there was anyone on the 616 00:24:12,539 --> 00:24:13,240 board who would like to pull 617 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,607 anything off from the consent 618 00:24:13,607 --> 00:24:15,607 agenda? 619 00:24:17,911 --> 00:24:18,120 Supervisor vega 620 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:18,979 . 621 00:24:18,979 --> 00:24:19,180 >> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM 622 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:21,480 Chair. 623 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:21,115 Item 5n 624 00:24:21,115 --> 00:24:23,115 . 625 00:24:23,483 --> 00:24:25,419 >> Chair Jefferson: 5n as in 626 00:24:25,419 --> 00:24:27,419 nancy. 627 00:24:27,655 --> 00:24:29,655 Anyone else? 628 00:24:31,492 --> 00:24:32,192 All right. 629 00:24:32,192 --> 00:24:33,126 Seeing none I would like to get 630 00:24:33,126 --> 00:24:35,126 a motion. 631 00:24:40,834 --> 00:24:41,535 Hold on. 632 00:24:41,535 --> 00:24:42,336 You don't know what I could be 633 00:24:42,336 --> 00:24:43,337 asking for a motion for. 634 00:24:43,337 --> 00:24:47,537 I would like a motion from 5a 635 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:53,747 through 5m and 50 through 5e. 636 00:24:53,747 --> 00:24:54,800 It has been moved and properly 637 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800 second in. 638 00:24:56,716 --> 00:24:59,190 Any discussion on these items. 639 00:24:59,190 --> 00:25:02,619 >> Tom Gordy: 5w as the last 640 00:25:03,257 --> 00:25:05,250 . 641 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:05,920 >> Chair Jefferson: 5n 642 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,920 . 643 00:25:07,327 --> 00:25:09,296 5w. 644 00:25:09,296 --> 00:25:12,896 Did you want to pull that? 645 00:25:19,873 --> 00:25:22,273 >> it has been withdrawn. 646 00:25:24,911 --> 00:25:25,412 That one has been withdrawn. 647 00:25:25,412 --> 00:25:27,412 Supervisor angry. 648 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:29,249 >> Victor Angry: real quick 649 00:25:29,249 --> 00:25:31,249 on 50 650 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,354 , q, r we have been 651 00:25:34,354 --> 00:25:36,754 talking about the courts 652 00:25:39,626 --> 00:25:43,226 district and we are in the 653 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:45,832 phases where the pain starts. 654 00:25:45,832 --> 00:25:46,667 We are going to start seeing a 655 00:25:46,667 --> 00:25:47,634 lot of movement of dirt, 656 00:25:47,634 --> 00:25:48,668 trucks, construction signs. 657 00:25:48,668 --> 00:25:50,504 Again, if you don't need to be 658 00:25:50,504 --> 00:25:54,104 in the area of prince william 659 00:25:54,975 --> 00:25:55,475 pkwy. 660 00:25:55,475 --> 00:25:56,242 , find alternates. 661 00:25:56,242 --> 00:25:57,578 I hate to put it that way but 662 00:25:57,578 --> 00:26:01,778 this is going to get on until 663 00:26:04,551 --> 00:26:05,252 we get the construction done. 664 00:26:05,252 --> 00:26:06,153 Of course you know it is high 665 00:26:06,153 --> 00:26:06,720 which is a single-point urban 666 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:06,986 interchange. 667 00:26:06,986 --> 00:26:07,187 Copyright. 668 00:26:07,187 --> 00:26:07,921 Okay. 669 00:26:07,921 --> 00:26:10,324 That road is a major 670 00:26:10,324 --> 00:26:12,559 construction road because we 671 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:16,759 heard and I heard that when we 672 00:26:17,463 --> 00:26:17,698 do developments we don't 673 00:26:17,698 --> 00:26:18,598 improve. 674 00:26:18,598 --> 00:26:21,334 You are going to see parkway 675 00:26:21,334 --> 00:26:22,100 going under many ville. 676 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:22,903 We have already had one town 677 00:26:22,903 --> 00:26:23,603 hall meeting on this and we 678 00:26:23,603 --> 00:26:25,239 will be having another real 679 00:26:25,239 --> 00:26:27,400 soon because the next phase we 680 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,400 are in. 681 00:26:33,747 --> 00:26:34,581 If you are not on my email list 682 00:26:34,581 --> 00:26:35,415 I would ask for folks listening 683 00:26:35,415 --> 00:26:38,180 in, shoot me an email, go to 684 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:38,785 the website neabsco news.Org. 685 00:26:38,785 --> 00:26:41,120 Get on the list so you can come 686 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,890 out in here all the changes 687 00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:43,656 that have taken place and 688 00:26:43,656 --> 00:26:47,256 really be a part of the 689 00:26:48,194 --> 00:26:49,529 discussion, any questions you 690 00:26:49,529 --> 00:26:50,163 have that we could answer. 691 00:26:50,163 --> 00:26:52,799 This is going to take a couple 692 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:53,433 of years, but at the end of all 693 00:26:53,433 --> 00:26:55,635 of this he will be -- what we 694 00:26:55,635 --> 00:26:57,635 have. 695 00:27:07,613 --> 00:27:08,748 Thank you MADAM Chair. 696 00:27:08,748 --> 00:27:09,749 >> Chair Jefferson: does anyone 697 00:27:09,749 --> 00:27:10,117 else want to comment on 698 00:27:10,117 --> 00:27:10,817 anything? 699 00:27:10,817 --> 00:27:11,484 Supervisor bailey. 700 00:27:11,484 --> 00:27:12,118 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you 701 00:27:12,118 --> 00:27:12,719 MADAM Chair. 702 00:27:12,719 --> 00:27:13,619 I just want to thank our fire 703 00:27:13,619 --> 00:27:15,550 department facilities 704 00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:15,622 department for the movement on 705 00:27:15,622 --> 00:27:16,557 fire stations happen. 706 00:27:16,557 --> 00:27:16,756 Every incremental movement is 707 00:27:16,756 --> 00:27:18,756 great. 708 00:27:21,561 --> 00:27:22,429 Might appreciate you keeping an 709 00:27:22,429 --> 00:27:26,290 eye on the prize making sure 710 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:27,734 the fire station is there. 711 00:27:27,734 --> 00:27:28,701 In terms of public safety and 712 00:27:28,701 --> 00:27:30,536 taking care of our citizens. 713 00:27:30,536 --> 00:27:31,638 Thank you MADAM Chair. 714 00:27:31,638 --> 00:27:31,904 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 715 00:27:31,904 --> 00:27:32,539 very much. 716 00:27:32,539 --> 00:27:36,750 I would like to go ahead and 717 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:36,876 call the vote. 718 00:27:36,876 --> 00:27:38,876 >> cote unanimous. 719 00:27:41,748 --> 00:27:42,716 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 720 00:27:42,716 --> 00:27:47,516 We are now going to go to 5n. 721 00:27:48,888 --> 00:27:50,888 Supervisor vega 722 00:27:52,258 --> 00:27:52,992 . 723 00:27:52,992 --> 00:27:53,760 >> Yesli Vega: I understand we 724 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,194 are voting to authorize the 725 00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:55,796 public hearing. 726 00:27:55,796 --> 00:27:56,729 Still remain 727 00:27:56,729 --> 00:27:57,698 fundamentally opposed to this 728 00:27:57,698 --> 00:27:58,665 initiative even starting so I 729 00:27:58,665 --> 00:27:58,998 wanted to see that for the 730 00:27:58,998 --> 00:27:59,699 record. 731 00:27:59,699 --> 00:27:59,965 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 732 00:27:59,965 --> 00:28:00,699 Thank you. 733 00:28:00,699 --> 00:28:00,967 Are there any additional 734 00:28:00,967 --> 00:28:01,802 speakers? 735 00:28:01,802 --> 00:28:03,102 If not I would like to get a 736 00:28:03,102 --> 00:28:04,400 motion on 5n. 737 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,706 It has been properly moved and 738 00:28:06,706 --> 00:28:07,206 seconded. 739 00:28:07,206 --> 00:28:09,206 any discussion? 740 00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:11,770 All right. 741 00:28:11,770 --> 00:28:15,277 Let's go ahead and take a vote 742 00:28:16,148 --> 00:28:16,983 on that item. 743 00:28:16,983 --> 00:28:18,983 >> motion passes 7/1 supervisor 744 00:28:23,889 --> 00:28:24,991 vega voting no. 745 00:28:24,991 --> 00:28:25,892 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 746 00:28:25,892 --> 00:28:27,126 Think is a very much. 747 00:28:27,126 --> 00:28:27,727 We are moving to agenda item 6 748 00:28:27,727 --> 00:28:27,927 and that is public comment 749 00:28:27,927 --> 00:28:29,927 time. 750 00:28:31,665 --> 00:28:32,398 I already have a sign-up sheet. 751 00:28:32,398 --> 00:28:32,799 Going to call people up in 752 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,799 groups of five. 753 00:28:36,436 --> 00:28:37,403 When I ask people that everyone 754 00:28:37,403 --> 00:28:37,937 in the board room please take a 755 00:28:37,937 --> 00:28:39,937 seat. 756 00:28:45,211 --> 00:28:46,112 So going to have -- and I 757 00:28:46,112 --> 00:28:49,712 apologize if I cannot make out 758 00:28:49,849 --> 00:28:50,616 the handwriting. 759 00:28:50,616 --> 00:28:53,616 Leave fay jones, brian landrum, 760 00:29:00,426 --> 00:29:01,694 ron sachs, chris bley zia and 761 00:29:01,694 --> 00:29:04,694 so everyone a few general 762 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,100 pointers make sure you speak 763 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:09,102 quickly and to the microphone. 764 00:29:09,102 --> 00:29:09,535 On the screen it will have a 765 00:29:09,535 --> 00:29:10,403 much time you have. 766 00:29:10,403 --> 00:29:13,403 Please begin by stating your 767 00:29:13,706 --> 00:29:16,106 name on the magisterial 768 00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:18,378 district where you reside. 769 00:29:18,378 --> 00:29:19,979 >> good afternoon. 770 00:29:19,979 --> 00:29:23,716 My name is leif e jones and I 771 00:29:23,716 --> 00:29:24,250 reside down the street. 772 00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:27,250 I am new to this 773 00:29:29,155 --> 00:29:29,889 . 774 00:29:29,889 --> 00:29:33,489 The only comment that I wanted 775 00:29:34,427 --> 00:29:38,627 to make is in reference to I 776 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:40,567 guess 7f with the kings grove 777 00:29:40,567 --> 00:29:40,800 that is potentially going to be 778 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,800 here on 779 00:29:43,936 --> 00:29:44,770 the corner. 780 00:29:44,770 --> 00:29:48,370 My only concern with that is 781 00:29:49,241 --> 00:29:52,841 the entry way to that facility 782 00:29:54,714 --> 00:29:55,414 . 783 00:29:55,414 --> 00:29:58,150 I would recommend the only 784 00:29:58,150 --> 00:30:01,150 entryway to that facility is 785 00:30:01,954 --> 00:30:02,989 going to be on black forest 786 00:30:02,989 --> 00:30:03,589 lane, not prince will then 787 00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:05,989 parkway because prince will 788 00:30:13,366 --> 00:30:13,766 deem are quite is already a 789 00:30:13,766 --> 00:30:14,333 backlog trying to 790 00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:14,834 be in that 791 00:30:14,834 --> 00:30:15,868 right-hand lane. 792 00:30:15,868 --> 00:30:16,969 That is really my only comment 793 00:30:16,969 --> 00:30:17,971 . 794 00:30:17,971 --> 00:30:19,638 I don't know how the process 795 00:30:19,638 --> 00:30:22,274 works but I did want to give my 796 00:30:22,274 --> 00:30:24,274 opinion on that. 797 00:30:28,314 --> 00:30:28,981 >> Chair Jefferson: generally I 798 00:30:28,981 --> 00:30:29,849 will just give you -- the 799 00:30:29,849 --> 00:30:30,449 public comment time you can 800 00:30:30,449 --> 00:30:32,449 speak. 801 00:30:32,818 --> 00:30:32,985 What you are referring to is 802 00:30:32,985 --> 00:30:34,720 7f. 803 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,320 We have a separate process for 804 00:30:42,895 --> 00:30:43,362 that 805 00:30:43,362 --> 00:30:44,960 . 806 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:44,263 If you want you can speak again 807 00:30:44,263 --> 00:30:44,897 and 808 00:30:44,897 --> 00:30:45,831 that time or if you are 809 00:30:45,831 --> 00:30:46,565 finished with the comments and 810 00:30:46,565 --> 00:30:47,566 are satisfied you don't have to 811 00:30:47,566 --> 00:30:49,566 speak again. 812 00:30:51,804 --> 00:30:52,137 >> that is my, unless you speak 813 00:30:52,137 --> 00:30:52,871 to something. 814 00:30:52,871 --> 00:30:53,720 >> Chair Jefferson: I like 815 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720 that. 816 00:30:56,675 --> 00:30:58,675 Next speaker. 817 00:31:00,479 --> 00:31:02,314 >> brian landrum, gainesville 818 00:31:02,314 --> 00:31:02,482 district 819 00:31:02,482 --> 00:31:03,182 . 820 00:31:03,182 --> 00:31:05,582 MADAM Chair and supervisors, 821 00:31:07,586 --> 00:31:08,854 thank you for the opportunity 822 00:31:08,854 --> 00:31:09,555 to speak today on behalf of the 823 00:31:09,555 --> 00:31:10,623 architecture review board about 824 00:31:10,623 --> 00:31:13,623 agenda item 10 c the request 825 00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:31,877 for $85,000 out of cycle 826 00:31:31,877 --> 00:31:32,444 funding to develop the overlay 827 00:31:32,444 --> 00:31:33,345 district design guidelines. 828 00:31:33,345 --> 00:31:34,460 Thank you to the board for your 829 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:35,780 commitment to historic 830 00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:36,548 preservation including the 831 00:31:36,548 --> 00:31:37,282 recent purchase of ongoing 832 00:31:37,282 --> 00:31:38,830 rehabilitation of the williams 833 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:39,551 goss house and the net 834 00:31:39,551 --> 00:31:39,985 distiller home and thank you 835 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:40,685 supervisor for your 836 00:31:40,685 --> 00:31:41,253 leadership 837 00:31:41,253 --> 00:31:41,820 securing that funding and 838 00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:43,556 moving the project forward. 839 00:31:43,556 --> 00:31:44,556 it's a once in a generation 840 00:31:44,556 --> 00:31:45,257 opportunity to preserve an 841 00:31:45,257 --> 00:31:45,724 incredible piece of our shared 842 00:31:45,724 --> 00:31:46,559 history. 843 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:47,125 Our county should be proud of 844 00:31:47,125 --> 00:31:48,600 frank washington on the 845 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,600 thoroughfare community for 846 00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:52,264 working diligently to ensure 847 00:31:52,264 --> 00:31:54,664 future generations have the 848 00:32:02,774 --> 00:32:03,709 opportunity to experience the 849 00:32:03,709 --> 00:32:04,743 rich history represented there. 850 00:32:04,743 --> 00:32:05,744 These design guidelines are 851 00:32:05,744 --> 00:32:06,712 critical piece of the overlay 852 00:32:06,712 --> 00:32:07,212 district project and out of 853 00:32:07,212 --> 00:32:09,481 cycle funding is key to 854 00:32:09,481 --> 00:32:10,149 ensuring it stays on schedule 855 00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:11,116 pickup respect we request you 856 00:32:11,116 --> 00:32:11,316 approve item 10 c on the out of 857 00:32:11,316 --> 00:32:11,950 cycle 858 00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:12,510 funding request for 859 00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:12,951 the 860 00:32:12,951 --> 00:32:13,485 thoroughfare design guidelines. 861 00:32:13,485 --> 00:32:14,520 Thank you very much. 862 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,522 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 863 00:32:16,522 --> 00:32:17,523 Next speaker, please. 864 00:32:17,523 --> 00:32:19,892 >> Public Speaker: I'm chris, 865 00:32:19,892 --> 00:32:20,893 brentsville district. 866 00:32:20,893 --> 00:32:21,960 Thanks for letting me speak and 867 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,160 I do want to apologize to the 868 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,160 board. 869 00:32:35,807 --> 00:32:36,241 I am a debbie downer. 870 00:32:36,241 --> 00:32:36,975 I haven't been at 871 00:32:36,975 --> 00:32:37,576 these meetings 872 00:32:37,576 --> 00:32:38,477 because I do travel a lot. 873 00:32:38,477 --> 00:32:38,643 But I just recently got laid 874 00:32:38,643 --> 00:32:39,544 off. 875 00:32:39,544 --> 00:32:39,811 As well as many other people in 876 00:32:39,811 --> 00:32:40,979 virginia. 877 00:32:40,979 --> 00:32:41,446 I just want to mention to the 878 00:32:41,446 --> 00:32:41,646 board, priorities. 879 00:32:41,646 --> 00:32:43,646 E are all 880 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:45,317 prince with them county 881 00:32:45,317 --> 00:32:46,850 residents. 882 00:32:46,850 --> 00:32:47,219 And I say that because I get 883 00:32:47,219 --> 00:32:50,219 all these mailings and flyers 884 00:32:51,556 --> 00:32:53,956 about data centers, personal 885 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:55,930 property taxes 886 00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:56,610 . 887 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:57,620 I'm hoping the board has 888 00:32:57,620 --> 00:32:59,164 priorities over this because 889 00:32:59,164 --> 00:33:02,534 now I am hearing data centers 890 00:33:02,534 --> 00:33:04,934 are taking public locations 891 00:33:08,373 --> 00:33:08,940 like retail or nurseries and 892 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,940 providing lots of money to 893 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,181 build data centers. 894 00:33:16,181 --> 00:33:17,181 I didn't know that was prince 895 00:33:17,181 --> 00:33:18,490 williams goals or directives. 896 00:33:18,490 --> 00:33:18,984 I'm sorry I didn't make any 897 00:33:18,984 --> 00:33:19,985 meetings because I am 898 00:33:19,985 --> 00:33:21,620 supporting my family every day. 899 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:22,187 There's a lot of state 900 00:33:22,187 --> 00:33:24,187 . 901 00:33:26,591 --> 00:33:27,426 I flight a lot. 902 00:33:27,426 --> 00:33:28,160 And I know there are probably a 903 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,294 lot of other objectives the 904 00:33:29,294 --> 00:33:32,294 board can work with other 905 00:33:33,665 --> 00:33:34,366 politicians. 906 00:33:34,366 --> 00:33:37,201 I am sure we can get rid of 907 00:33:37,201 --> 00:33:40,801 property tax in general we know 908 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,800 it goes in the general fund. 909 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,208 And I just want the board to 910 00:33:49,881 --> 00:33:50,748 put priorities that the prince 911 00:33:50,748 --> 00:33:51,850 william property tax. 912 00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:52,484 These are all the things you 913 00:33:52,484 --> 00:33:54,419 mentioned running for office so 914 00:33:54,419 --> 00:33:54,886 I would really like that to be 915 00:33:54,886 --> 00:33:55,720 a priority. 916 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,720 Thank you for your time. 917 00:34:00,391 --> 00:34:01,226 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 918 00:34:01,226 --> 00:34:02,194 Next speaker, please. 919 00:34:02,194 --> 00:34:04,594 >> Public Speaker: I'm ron. 920 00:34:08,366 --> 00:34:09,134 I live in the -- district and I 921 00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:09,400 guess I am talking to all of 922 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,201 the 923 00:34:10,201 --> 00:34:10,435 board members. 924 00:34:10,435 --> 00:34:12,435 Ecently we 925 00:34:13,171 --> 00:34:14,172 lost a bus stop. 926 00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:16,572 >> Chair Jefferson: can you 927 00:34:17,942 --> 00:34:20,342 move the microphone closer? 928 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,480 We can barely hear you. 929 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,250 >> Public Speaker: anyway, we 930 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,650 lost a bus stop. 931 00:34:31,155 --> 00:34:33,155 Two weeks 932 00:34:36,928 --> 00:34:37,828 , woodbridge high 933 00:34:37,828 --> 00:34:38,463 school, fred lynn student and 934 00:34:38,463 --> 00:34:40,463 occoquan elementary 935 00:34:42,434 --> 00:34:42,968 students. 936 00:34:42,968 --> 00:34:43,902 They did not have any 937 00:34:43,902 --> 00:34:46,302 information that they had 938 00:34:47,205 --> 00:34:49,207 eliminated this bus stop. 939 00:34:49,207 --> 00:34:50,642 i tried to get in contact with 940 00:34:50,642 --> 00:34:52,277 them 941 00:34:52,277 --> 00:34:54,277 . 942 00:34:54,813 --> 00:34:57,213 Their computers were down 943 00:34:57,248 --> 00:34:58,683 . 944 00:34:58,683 --> 00:35:00,217 And radical with the telephone. 945 00:35:00,217 --> 00:35:02,217 No response 946 00:35:04,623 --> 00:35:05,290 . 947 00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:06,158 I don't understand think they 948 00:35:06,158 --> 00:35:07,225 been there for 60 years. 949 00:35:07,225 --> 00:35:09,225 I 950 00:35:15,366 --> 00:35:16,100 collect cans and I go ahead and 951 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,200 give the money to the kids when 952 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,503 they get off the bus at the end 953 00:35:18,503 --> 00:35:20,710 of the school year so they want 954 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:22,373 opportunity to go swimming at 955 00:35:22,373 --> 00:35:23,975 hammer mill pool. 956 00:35:23,975 --> 00:35:24,275 This year was six dollars 957 00:35:24,275 --> 00:35:26,275 . 958 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:31,813 But anyway, one of the problems 959 00:35:31,850 --> 00:35:32,517 is the eliminated. 960 00:35:32,517 --> 00:35:36,554 They are not going to put it 961 00:35:36,554 --> 00:35:37,522 back. 962 00:35:37,522 --> 00:35:40,257 I know we got information a 963 00:35:40,257 --> 00:35:40,959 couple years ago that they are 964 00:35:40,959 --> 00:35:41,159 changing the times of the bus 965 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:42,860 stop 966 00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:44,860 . 967 00:35:49,534 --> 00:35:50,670 It was on the paperwork of MR. 968 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:50,734 Lint. 969 00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:54,334 He is the principle of occoquan 970 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:55,807 school. 971 00:35:55,807 --> 00:35:56,174 He is not the one that 972 00:35:56,174 --> 00:35:57,800 initiates this. 973 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:57,776 Do you want everyone to call 974 00:35:57,776 --> 00:35:58,543 MR. Lint the principal about 975 00:35:58,543 --> 00:36:00,943 the bus stop times? 976 00:36:01,146 --> 00:36:03,146 It's crazy. 977 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:03,648 Whoever the entity was was made 978 00:36:03,648 --> 00:36:05,648 anonymous. 979 00:36:07,652 --> 00:36:09,687 We want the bus 980 00:36:09,687 --> 00:36:11,687 stop back. 981 00:36:11,956 --> 00:36:15,556 What is a child's life worth. 982 00:36:17,562 --> 00:36:17,828 And then have people going up 983 00:36:17,828 --> 00:36:18,950 to kilby. 984 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:18,629 They are 985 00:36:18,629 --> 00:36:19,364 walking up these hills 986 00:36:19,364 --> 00:36:21,364 I see, snowy. 987 00:36:22,233 --> 00:36:22,633 I don't understand 988 00:36:22,633 --> 00:36:24,633 . 989 00:36:26,337 --> 00:36:29,937 have you ever pushed a carriage 990 00:36:30,341 --> 00:36:33,941 up a hill with two kids? 991 00:36:36,747 --> 00:36:37,514 I mean, it's difficult. 992 00:36:37,514 --> 00:36:38,416 I don't know how you feel about 993 00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:40,180 it, but can you even read and 994 00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:41,520 write? 995 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,870 The declaration of independence 996 00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:43,153 was written 997 00:36:43,153 --> 00:36:45,153 . 998 00:36:45,923 --> 00:36:46,624 Does no more writing in the 999 00:36:46,624 --> 00:36:48,624 public schools. 1000 00:36:49,293 --> 00:36:49,560 What's going 1001 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,560 on? 1002 00:36:54,398 --> 00:36:54,632 I'm blessed I went to a private 1003 00:36:54,632 --> 00:36:55,330 school. 1004 00:36:55,330 --> 00:36:55,566 Catholic school. 1005 00:36:55,566 --> 00:36:58,336 My time is running out. 1006 00:36:58,336 --> 00:37:01,839 Thank you for the time and good 1007 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:02,640 luck on the valley drive. 1008 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:02,973 >> Chair Jefferson: thank 1009 00:37:02,973 --> 00:37:04,973 you so 1010 00:37:07,511 --> 00:37:08,512 very much. 1011 00:37:08,512 --> 00:37:09,800 We are going to be moving on to 1012 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:09,413 promote public 1013 00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:10,315 comment time and 1014 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:13,915 I ask people, if you would 1015 00:37:21,392 --> 00:37:22,359 like to please have a seat. 1016 00:37:22,359 --> 00:37:22,760 Supervisor bailey, do we have 1017 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,327 anyone signed up. 1018 00:37:23,327 --> 00:37:23,627 >> Andrea Bailey: we do, 1019 00:37:23,627 --> 00:37:25,263 MADAM Chair. 1020 00:37:25,263 --> 00:37:27,263 Re we ready? 1021 00:37:30,367 --> 00:37:31,368 [Inaudible] 1022 00:37:31,368 --> 00:37:34,438 I don't have anybody online as 1023 00:37:34,438 --> 00:37:36,438 of right now 1024 00:37:36,541 --> 00:37:37,508 . 1025 00:37:37,508 --> 00:37:38,142 >> Andrea Bailey: okay. 1026 00:37:38,142 --> 00:37:40,770 MADAM Chair, back to you. 1027 00:37:40,770 --> 00:37:40,744 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 1028 00:37:40,744 --> 00:37:41,379 so very much. 1029 00:37:41,379 --> 00:37:42,146 We are going to move to agenda 1030 00:37:42,146 --> 00:37:45,449 item number seven and that is 1031 00:37:45,449 --> 00:37:46,830 public hearings. 1032 00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:46,917 Before I opened the public 1033 00:37:46,917 --> 00:37:47,551 hearings I want to see if 1034 00:37:47,551 --> 00:37:49,120 anyone on the dais had any 1035 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,520 questions or wanted any 1036 00:37:54,891 --> 00:37:55,426 clarification. 1037 00:37:55,426 --> 00:37:56,527 Supervisor boddye. 1038 00:37:56,527 --> 00:37:59,527 >> Kenny Boddye: before we get 1039 00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:01,365 to the public hearings 1040 00:38:01,365 --> 00:38:02,333 , 1041 00:38:02,333 --> 00:38:02,967 supervisor angry and I have 1042 00:38:02,967 --> 00:38:03,967 something we have to read. 1043 00:38:03,967 --> 00:38:07,567 Before the board holds a public 1044 00:38:10,274 --> 00:38:11,175 hearing and consider some votes 1045 00:38:11,175 --> 00:38:12,109 on item 7a which budget and 1046 00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:12,676 appropriate school board 1047 00:38:12,676 --> 00:38:13,343 carryover funds, I need to 1048 00:38:13,343 --> 00:38:14,178 declare a personal interest in 1049 00:38:14,178 --> 00:38:14,778 this matter. 1050 00:38:14,778 --> 00:38:15,179 School employee my wife is a 1051 00:38:15,179 --> 00:38:17,179 school employee. 1052 00:38:19,983 --> 00:38:20,851 The my wife and I are members 1053 00:38:20,851 --> 00:38:21,352 of a group affected by this 1054 00:38:21,352 --> 00:38:22,190 matter. 1055 00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:22,853 We are participating because I 1056 00:38:22,853 --> 00:38:23,854 know we can do so fairly, 1057 00:38:23,854 --> 00:38:24,121 objectively and in the public 1058 00:38:24,121 --> 00:38:25,856 interest. 1059 00:38:25,856 --> 00:38:26,490 >> Kenny Boddye: before the 1060 00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:29,490 board holds a public hearing 1061 00:38:37,567 --> 00:38:38,435 and vote on item 7a which 1062 00:38:38,435 --> 00:38:39,469 budget and appropriate school 1063 00:38:39,469 --> 00:38:40,137 board carryover funds I need to 1064 00:38:40,137 --> 00:38:40,671 declare personal interest in 1065 00:38:40,671 --> 00:38:41,438 the matter. 1066 00:38:41,438 --> 00:38:42,439 My wife is a school employee. 1067 00:38:42,439 --> 00:38:46,390 Is a schools employee my wife 1068 00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:50,247 and I are members of a group 1069 00:38:50,247 --> 00:38:51,215 affected by this matter. 1070 00:38:51,215 --> 00:38:52,148 I will be participating in this 1071 00:38:52,148 --> 00:38:53,117 matter because I am able to do 1072 00:38:53,117 --> 00:38:53,784 so fairly, objectively, and in 1073 00:38:53,784 --> 00:38:54,784 the public interest. 1074 00:38:54,784 --> 00:38:55,218 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 1075 00:38:55,218 --> 00:38:55,786 so very much. 1076 00:38:55,786 --> 00:38:56,787 Supervisor franklin? 1077 00:38:56,787 --> 00:38:57,688 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 1078 00:38:57,688 --> 00:38:57,888 well, I wanted to separate out 1079 00:38:57,888 --> 00:38:58,722 items. 1080 00:38:58,722 --> 00:38:58,989 I'm not sure if we are there 1081 00:38:58,989 --> 00:38:59,623 yet. 1082 00:38:59,623 --> 00:39:02,623 Want to separate out 7c. 1083 00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:06,830 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 1084 00:39:06,830 --> 00:39:08,830 All right. 1085 00:39:08,999 --> 00:39:10,000 Actually, what I'm going to do 1086 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,236 is I'm going to open the public 1087 00:39:12,236 --> 00:39:15,236 hearing for everything and then 1088 00:39:17,173 --> 00:39:17,441 we will take 7c separately. 1089 00:39:17,441 --> 00:39:18,308 all right. 1090 00:39:18,308 --> 00:39:21,908 I'm going to open the public 1091 00:39:22,313 --> 00:39:22,445 hearing for seven a through f 1092 00:39:22,445 --> 00:39:23,113 . 1093 00:39:23,113 --> 00:39:26,713 Right now I have two people 1094 00:39:27,851 --> 00:39:28,585 signed up to speak. 1095 00:39:28,585 --> 00:39:29,553 The rules are you have similar 1096 00:39:29,553 --> 00:39:29,753 to public comment time you have 1097 00:39:29,753 --> 00:39:30,200 three 1098 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200 minutes. 1099 00:39:38,729 --> 00:39:38,962 The timer is going to be on the 1100 00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:39,629 screen. 1101 00:39:39,629 --> 00:39:40,597 If you're speaking as a 1102 00:39:40,597 --> 00:39:41,298 representative for a recognized 1103 00:39:41,298 --> 00:39:43,567 group, 501(C)(3), you have up 1104 00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:43,701 to five minutes 1105 00:39:43,701 --> 00:39:44,668 . 1106 00:39:44,668 --> 00:39:44,935 I have two people currently 1107 00:39:44,935 --> 00:39:45,635 signed up. 1108 00:39:45,635 --> 00:39:46,136 Again, state your name and 1109 00:39:46,136 --> 00:39:48,136 where you resign. 1110 00:39:56,546 --> 00:39:57,548 I have miriam and paula. 1111 00:39:57,548 --> 00:40:01,840 If you both make your way up to 1112 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,840 the back. 1113 00:40:07,891 --> 00:40:09,159 Right over there. 1114 00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,559 >> my name is miriam. 1115 00:40:12,696 --> 00:40:15,531 I am here to speak on the kings 1116 00:40:15,531 --> 00:40:16,533 grove development. 1117 00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:18,933 >> Chair Jefferson: if you 1118 00:40:22,940 --> 00:40:23,940 could step into the microphone. 1119 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:24,708 >> Public Speaker: I am a 1120 00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:27,610 homeowner in the reeds prospect 1121 00:40:27,610 --> 00:40:28,612 hoa which is across the street 1122 00:40:28,612 --> 00:40:28,946 from where this development is 1123 00:40:28,946 --> 00:40:29,879 being planned. 1124 00:40:29,879 --> 00:40:33,479 I have been a homeowner there 1125 00:40:35,219 --> 00:40:35,351 for 12 years 1126 00:40:35,351 --> 00:40:35,952 . 1127 00:40:35,952 --> 00:40:36,886 We have concerns about a 1128 00:40:36,886 --> 00:40:38,188 growing trend we have seen in 1129 00:40:38,188 --> 00:40:39,256 residential development in 1130 00:40:39,256 --> 00:40:40,190 which the integration of rental 1131 00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:43,190 apartment units into hoa under 1132 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,628 the broad a misleading label of 1133 00:40:48,699 --> 00:40:48,799 multifamily housing units 1134 00:40:48,799 --> 00:40:49,800 . 1135 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800 We believe some developers MAY 1136 00:40:54,371 --> 00:40:55,400 be using the terminology to 1137 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,872 obscure their true intent, 1138 00:40:55,872 --> 00:40:56,873 introducing rental units to 1139 00:40:56,873 --> 00:40:58,873 traditionally owner-occupied 1140 00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:03,800 communities. 1141 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,800 This practice not only misleads 1142 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,820 potential homeowners but can 1143 00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:05,782 also compromise their voting 1144 00:41:05,782 --> 00:41:07,217 rights and influence within the 1145 00:41:07,217 --> 00:41:07,884 hoa. 1146 00:41:07,884 --> 00:41:08,685 So this is what has happened 1147 00:41:08,685 --> 00:41:11,355 with reeds prospect which is 1148 00:41:11,355 --> 00:41:12,355 right across the street. 1149 00:41:12,355 --> 00:41:12,955 It was originally developed to 1150 00:41:12,955 --> 00:41:13,220 include 200 condo unit 1151 00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:15,220 . 1152 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:20,627 That is what was approved by 1153 00:41:20,697 --> 00:41:21,531 the board of supervisors in 314 1154 00:41:21,531 --> 00:41:23,931 single family homes and 1155 00:41:24,367 --> 00:41:24,468 townhouses 1156 00:41:24,468 --> 00:41:25,100 . 1157 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:25,902 Those units were later 1158 00:41:25,902 --> 00:41:27,902 transitioned into apartment 1159 00:41:29,773 --> 00:41:30,507 units 1160 00:41:30,507 --> 00:41:31,407 , but the documents that 1161 00:41:31,407 --> 00:41:32,900 were drafted by the same law 1162 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:32,508 firm representing this 1163 00:41:32,508 --> 00:41:32,842 development here 1164 00:41:32,842 --> 00:41:34,842 , which is the 1165 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:38,381 law firm of walsh belushi, 1166 00:41:38,381 --> 00:41:39,582 billy and walsh, drafted our 1167 00:41:39,582 --> 00:41:42,582 documents in such a misleading 1168 00:41:42,619 --> 00:41:45,619 manner so that now the 200 1169 00:41:46,356 --> 00:41:47,624 apartment units have 200 votes 1170 00:41:47,624 --> 00:41:50,193 in our hoa which are cast by 1171 00:41:50,193 --> 00:41:50,760 one person. 1172 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,360 So the entire time I lived 1173 00:41:57,133 --> 00:41:58,134 there are hoa has been 1174 00:41:58,134 --> 00:41:59,169 effectively, practically, and 1175 00:41:59,169 --> 00:42:00,903 absolutely controlled by the 1176 00:42:00,903 --> 00:42:01,571 interests of one person. 1177 00:42:01,571 --> 00:42:04,571 Our hoa has put together 1178 00:42:06,643 --> 00:42:07,643 several collective actions 1179 00:42:07,643 --> 00:42:08,278 because we do have more votes 1180 00:42:08,278 --> 00:42:11,878 in the 200 but you can imagine 1181 00:42:12,448 --> 00:42:13,349 in our community we are a group 1182 00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:15,719 of homeowners, many thorough 1183 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,719 workers for folks who don't 1184 00:42:22,625 --> 00:42:23,426 have english as their first 1185 00:42:23,426 --> 00:42:24,127 language so that kind of 1186 00:42:24,127 --> 00:42:25,128 collective action problem. 1187 00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:26,529 This represents a petition we 1188 00:42:26,529 --> 00:42:27,163 have worked to get signed as 1189 00:42:27,163 --> 00:42:29,732 well as proxy votes to try to 1190 00:42:29,732 --> 00:42:32,732 reclaim our voting rights this 1191 00:42:33,503 --> 00:42:34,104 has been met 1192 00:42:34,104 --> 00:42:34,804 , led by an hoa 1193 00:42:34,804 --> 00:42:37,804 attorney which they have hired 1194 00:42:38,775 --> 00:42:42,345 using their own funds to spend 1195 00:42:42,345 --> 00:42:42,612 $70,000 rejecting our efforts 1196 00:42:42,612 --> 00:42:43,446 this year. 1197 00:42:43,446 --> 00:42:43,713 So my concern regarding this 1198 00:42:43,713 --> 00:42:45,713 community. 1199 00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:48,918 We met last year with kenny 1200 00:42:48,918 --> 00:42:49,518 boddye office. 1201 00:42:49,518 --> 00:42:50,653 They said there's nothing we 1202 00:42:50,653 --> 00:42:51,588 can do to help with this 1203 00:42:51,588 --> 00:42:52,355 because this is a ready been 1204 00:42:52,355 --> 00:42:54,355 developed and plan. 1205 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,260 My concern is having forward 1206 00:42:57,260 --> 00:43:00,626 when I look at the description 1207 00:43:02,598 --> 00:43:02,765 of these multifamily units 1208 00:43:02,765 --> 00:43:03,665 , two 1209 00:43:03,665 --> 00:43:04,967 over to mixed with attached 1210 00:43:04,967 --> 00:43:07,967 townhouses, my concern is you 1211 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,671 guys protect homeowners who 1212 00:43:08,671 --> 00:43:12,271 make sure they can have the 1213 00:43:12,274 --> 00:43:13,209 same thing happened to them but 1214 00:43:13,209 --> 00:43:15,812 this is not a business deal for 1215 00:43:15,812 --> 00:43:16,812 us as it is the apartments, 1216 00:43:16,812 --> 00:43:17,113 this is our personal 1217 00:43:17,113 --> 00:43:18,248 investment. 1218 00:43:18,248 --> 00:43:20,248 >> Chair Jefferson: next 1219 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:29,124 speaker, please. 1220 00:43:29,124 --> 00:43:32,124 >> Public Speaker: I and paula 1221 00:43:34,330 --> 00:43:35,310 kaiser with occoquan district. 1222 00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:38,631 I just want to discuss the 1223 00:43:39,435 --> 00:43:40,690 kings grove. 1224 00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:43,690 Last time kings grove was 1225 00:43:47,410 --> 00:43:48,111 brought to the planning meeting 1226 00:43:48,111 --> 00:43:48,912 there were several people who 1227 00:43:48,912 --> 00:43:51,912 spoke on the problem, the 1228 00:43:51,915 --> 00:43:52,470 issues with the schools 1229 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:52,982 , the 1230 00:43:52,982 --> 00:43:55,382 traffic, congestion on the 1231 00:43:55,751 --> 00:43:56,485 parkway. 1232 00:43:56,485 --> 00:43:58,454 What I am here for is about the 1233 00:43:58,454 --> 00:44:02,540 dog park being adjacent to the 1234 00:44:05,261 --> 00:44:05,394 well house that is next door 1235 00:44:05,394 --> 00:44:06,362 . 1236 00:44:06,362 --> 00:44:07,130 I haven't heard on any of these 1237 00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:09,130 issues. 1238 00:44:10,332 --> 00:44:14,532 I don't know what is planned to 1239 00:44:18,841 --> 00:44:19,809 address any of those issues. 1240 00:44:19,809 --> 00:44:19,975 That is just what I wanted to 1241 00:44:19,975 --> 00:44:20,243 say. 1242 00:44:20,243 --> 00:44:21,277 Thank you. 1243 00:44:21,277 --> 00:44:22,178 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 1244 00:44:22,178 --> 00:44:22,812 so very much. 1245 00:44:22,812 --> 00:44:26,382 Do we have anyone signed up to 1246 00:44:26,382 --> 00:44:27,417 speak remotely? 1247 00:44:27,417 --> 00:44:27,650 >> Andrea Bailey: I have one 1248 00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:29,650 person. 1249 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,687 Do we have anyone on remote? 1250 00:44:31,687 --> 00:44:31,921 >> we do not have anyone on 1251 00:44:31,921 --> 00:44:32,622 remote. 1252 00:44:32,622 --> 00:44:34,622 >> Andrea Bailey: okay. 1253 00:44:35,658 --> 00:44:36,625 Thank you. 1254 00:44:36,625 --> 00:44:37,259 >> Chair Jefferson: I would 1255 00:44:37,259 --> 00:44:40,259 like to close the public 1256 00:44:42,498 --> 00:44:43,433 hearings for seven a through f. 1257 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:44,500 I would also like to request I 1258 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:44,934 believe the first speaker said 1259 00:44:44,934 --> 00:44:45,668 she had a petition. 1260 00:44:45,668 --> 00:44:46,135 If you would like to share it 1261 00:44:46,135 --> 00:44:48,135 with the clerk? 1262 00:44:48,871 --> 00:44:49,138 Okay. 1263 00:44:49,138 --> 00:44:51,138 Thank you. 1264 00:44:53,509 --> 00:44:55,509 All right. 1265 00:45:04,821 --> 00:45:05,488 For agenda item seven I have a 1266 00:45:05,488 --> 00:45:06,322 request to pull off 7c and e. 1267 00:45:06,322 --> 00:45:07,323 And so we are going to take 1268 00:45:07,323 --> 00:45:09,723 those up individually and 1269 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,161 separately. 1270 00:45:12,161 --> 00:45:12,828 Does anyone on the board have 1271 00:45:12,828 --> 00:45:13,662 questions because if not I 1272 00:45:13,662 --> 00:45:14,763 would like to get a motion for 1273 00:45:14,763 --> 00:45:15,300 7a, b, e and f 1274 00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:15,998 . 1275 00:45:15,998 --> 00:45:16,632 >> Andrea Bailey: a move. 1276 00:45:16,632 --> 00:45:17,599 >> Kenny Boddye: second. 1277 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:18,801 >> Chair Jefferson: properly 1278 00:45:18,801 --> 00:45:20,801 moved and seconded. 1279 00:45:22,638 --> 00:45:23,372 Going to discussion. 1280 00:45:23,372 --> 00:45:24,206 >> Kenny Boddye: I didn't know 1281 00:45:24,206 --> 00:45:27,810 where to jump in on that but I 1282 00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:28,310 wanted to give -- to the 1283 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:29,311 response. 1284 00:45:29,311 --> 00:45:31,790 >> Chair Jefferson: sorry. 1285 00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:34,790 This is the consolidated land 1286 00:45:34,683 --> 00:45:34,783 use 1287 00:45:34,783 --> 00:45:35,751 . 1288 00:45:35,751 --> 00:45:39,351 These are things that I've gone 1289 00:45:39,788 --> 00:45:40,990 through expedited. 1290 00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:41,890 So I would like to go ahead and 1291 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:43,890 have our discussion. 1292 00:45:51,366 --> 00:45:52,000 Does any -- supervisor vega and 1293 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,801 then boddye. 1294 00:45:52,801 --> 00:45:56,401 >> Yesli Vega: I have a few 1295 00:45:56,405 --> 00:45:57,907 questions on item 7a. 1296 00:45:57,907 --> 00:45:58,941 >> Chair Jefferson: hold on. 1297 00:45:58,941 --> 00:46:01,376 Had asked earlier if anyone 1298 00:46:01,376 --> 00:46:01,910 from the dais at any questions 1299 00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:03,910 . 1300 00:46:05,914 --> 00:46:06,949 Not a big deal. 1301 00:46:06,949 --> 00:46:10,549 Would you like to withdraw your 1302 00:46:11,553 --> 00:46:12,540 chance to speak? 1303 00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:12,755 Supervisor boddye. 1304 00:46:12,755 --> 00:46:13,210 >> Kenny Boddye: 1305 00:46:13,210 --> 00:46:14,423 I just wanted 1306 00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:18,230 to speak very quickly on 7f. 1307 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,361 Good to see you again. 1308 00:46:19,361 --> 00:46:21,897 I know how you had more time I 1309 00:46:21,897 --> 00:46:22,931 understand and I hear you. 1310 00:46:22,931 --> 00:46:26,531 I know our offices and working 1311 00:46:27,636 --> 00:46:28,370 with our state delegates on the 1312 00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:30,205 state to try to work their 1313 00:46:30,205 --> 00:46:30,840 common interests and I know it 1314 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,639 is frustrating because there's 1315 00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,439 only so much we can do so I 1316 00:46:36,645 --> 00:46:37,546 wanted to say first I hear you. 1317 00:46:37,546 --> 00:46:38,513 But I know something you've 1318 00:46:38,513 --> 00:46:39,981 been here before on is the 1319 00:46:39,981 --> 00:46:40,983 signal light to speak to one of 1320 00:46:40,983 --> 00:46:43,383 my other constituents, the 1321 00:46:44,953 --> 00:46:45,921 traffic backing up all the way 1322 00:46:45,921 --> 00:46:46,522 to the intersection there is 1323 00:46:46,522 --> 00:46:46,589 real 1324 00:46:46,589 --> 00:46:48,589 . 1325 00:46:51,693 --> 00:46:52,427 We would be hopefully fixing 1326 00:46:52,427 --> 00:46:52,895 that with the old bridge rd. 1327 00:46:52,895 --> 00:46:53,395 In 1328 00:46:53,395 --> 00:46:53,795 prince william parkway 1329 00:46:53,795 --> 00:46:54,797 realignment. 1330 00:46:54,797 --> 00:46:57,666 But with this will be putting 1331 00:46:57,666 --> 00:46:58,367 in the signal that is supposed 1332 00:46:58,367 --> 00:46:59,000 to have been there for 1333 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,234 quite a 1334 00:46:59,234 --> 00:47:01,136 while. 1335 00:47:01,136 --> 00:47:01,837 It will warrant it based on the 1336 00:47:01,837 --> 00:47:04,237 traffic generation from kings 1337 00:47:06,441 --> 00:47:06,675 grove 1338 00:47:06,675 --> 00:47:07,376 . 1339 00:47:07,376 --> 00:47:08,277 I know a lot of people who want 1340 00:47:08,277 --> 00:47:11,446 to come out of reeds prospect 1341 00:47:11,446 --> 00:47:12,147 and turn left currently are 1342 00:47:12,147 --> 00:47:15,147 taking their lives into their 1343 00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:16,651 own hands by doing so. 1344 00:47:16,651 --> 00:47:17,385 Flashing yellow light, I don't 1345 00:47:17,385 --> 00:47:17,986 know why they did that but we 1346 00:47:17,986 --> 00:47:20,655 are aware we are with this 1347 00:47:20,655 --> 00:47:23,792 kings grove project it would be 1348 00:47:23,792 --> 00:47:24,526 a fully signalized intersection 1349 00:47:24,526 --> 00:47:27,526 that would allow people to 1350 00:47:27,629 --> 00:47:30,629 safely move through that more 1351 00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:37,720 freely and more safely. 1352 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:37,639 This project does deliver 239 1353 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:38,507 homes in a time people are 1354 00:47:38,507 --> 00:47:38,874 struggling to find homes that 1355 00:47:38,874 --> 00:47:40,874 are affordable. 1356 00:47:42,911 --> 00:47:43,545 It does obtain 24 new dwelling 1357 00:47:43,545 --> 00:47:43,845 units per gefilte counties 1358 00:47:43,845 --> 00:47:45,845 goals 1359 00:47:53,889 --> 00:47:54,923 a mixed-use development. 1360 00:47:54,923 --> 00:47:55,657 On that side of prince william 1361 00:47:55,657 --> 00:47:56,525 pkwy. It is all commercial pick 1362 00:47:56,525 --> 00:47:56,892 on the prospect site it's a 1363 00:47:56,892 --> 00:47:57,459 mixed-use. 1364 00:47:57,459 --> 00:47:58,920 On this site it is all 1365 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,920 commercial. 1366 00:48:00,462 --> 00:48:00,996 When we talk about mixed use we 1367 00:48:00,996 --> 00:48:01,663 are actually bringing the 1368 00:48:01,663 --> 00:48:02,230 housing to that side to the 1369 00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:02,997 parkway to deliver a real 1370 00:48:02,997 --> 00:48:05,997 mixed-use area in that part. 1371 00:48:10,706 --> 00:48:11,440 This makes a small but 1372 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,707 important step toward making 1373 00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:13,342 the county more affordable and 1374 00:48:13,342 --> 00:48:14,209 livable for close to this 1375 00:48:14,209 --> 00:48:14,877 employment center here, close 1376 00:48:14,877 --> 00:48:15,710 to retail, shopping. 1377 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:18,710 There are bookends on the 1378 00:48:25,453 --> 00:48:25,753 parkway side and the hoadley 1379 00:48:25,753 --> 00:48:26,521 side. 1380 00:48:26,521 --> 00:48:27,221 This is the kind of place we 1381 00:48:27,221 --> 00:48:27,956 want to see more housing. 1382 00:48:27,956 --> 00:48:28,623 I wanted to say thank you to 1383 00:48:28,623 --> 00:48:29,891 the applicant in 1384 00:48:29,891 --> 00:48:30,525 planning staff 1385 00:48:30,525 --> 00:48:31,726 working through this one and I 1386 00:48:31,726 --> 00:48:31,893 will of course be supporting 1387 00:48:31,893 --> 00:48:32,394 it. 1388 00:48:32,394 --> 00:48:33,428 thank you MADAM Chair. 1389 00:48:33,428 --> 00:48:35,196 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 1390 00:48:35,196 --> 00:48:35,930 bailey? 1391 00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:36,832 >> Andrea Bailey: if you could 1392 00:48:36,832 --> 00:48:37,866 remind me who hold item 7e. 1393 00:48:37,866 --> 00:48:38,166 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 1394 00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:38,800 vega. 1395 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,800 >> Andrea Bailey: okay. 1396 00:48:46,275 --> 00:48:47,376 Thank you very much. 1397 00:48:47,376 --> 00:48:48,276 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 1398 00:48:48,276 --> 00:48:48,542 I don't see any other 1399 00:48:48,542 --> 00:48:49,444 questions. 1400 00:48:49,444 --> 00:48:54,244 We are going to take a vote for 1401 00:48:55,984 --> 00:48:58,984 7a, b, d and f. 1402 00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:03,187 >> vote unanimously when we are 1403 00:49:03,258 --> 00:49:03,425 going to move to agenda item 1404 00:49:03,425 --> 00:49:04,226 7c. 1405 00:49:04,226 --> 00:49:07,226 Did you have any questions 1406 00:49:11,650 --> 00:49:11,566 supervisor vega? 1407 00:49:11,566 --> 00:49:12,233 That was c? 1408 00:49:12,233 --> 00:49:12,667 Supervisor franklin. 1409 00:49:12,667 --> 00:49:12,934 Okay. 1410 00:49:12,934 --> 00:49:14,934 All right. 1411 00:49:15,303 --> 00:49:18,903 So would like to entertain a 1412 00:49:22,444 --> 00:49:24,145 motion for 7c did you have a 1413 00:49:24,145 --> 00:49:25,800 question? 1414 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,800 >> George Stewart: I was going 1415 00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:30,352 to make a motion. 1416 00:49:30,352 --> 00:49:32,287 >> Chair Jefferson: it has been 1417 00:49:32,287 --> 00:49:32,720 properly moved with and 1418 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:33,955 seconded. 1419 00:49:33,955 --> 00:49:34,956 Supervisor franklin? 1420 00:49:34,956 --> 00:49:36,956 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 1421 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,610 generally have not been 1422 00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:40,628 supportive of creating or 1423 00:49:40,628 --> 00:49:41,729 expanding homebase gun 1424 00:49:41,729 --> 00:49:41,863 businesses 1425 00:49:41,863 --> 00:49:43,197 . 1426 00:49:43,197 --> 00:49:46,101 And suggest keeping with that. 1427 00:49:46,101 --> 00:49:46,267 I will be voting no 1428 00:49:46,267 --> 00:49:47,368 . 1429 00:49:47,368 --> 00:49:47,802 >> Chair Jefferson: any further 1430 00:49:47,802 --> 00:49:49,802 discussion? 1431 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,700 I am simply going 1432 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,700 to abstain from this one. 1433 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,147 I recognize the applicant has a 1434 00:49:59,147 --> 00:49:59,981 lot of support. 1435 00:49:59,981 --> 00:50:01,249 And giving this more or less to 1436 00:50:01,249 --> 00:50:02,249 keep a precedent. 1437 00:50:02,249 --> 00:50:07,490 So I will go ahead and call for 1438 00:50:13,594 --> 00:50:15,594 the vote. 1439 00:50:19,967 --> 00:50:20,701 >> motion passes 5/2 1440 00:50:20,701 --> 00:50:21,469 supervisors bailey and franklin 1441 00:50:21,469 --> 00:50:23,869 voting no, chair jefferson 1442 00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:29,110 abstaining from the vote. 1443 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:31,510 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 1444 00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:32,213 very much in the other item is 1445 00:50:32,213 --> 00:50:33,147 7e. 1446 00:50:33,147 --> 00:50:34,181 >> Tom Gordy: moved to approve. 1447 00:50:34,181 --> 00:50:36,181 >> Andrea Bailey: second. 1448 00:50:36,517 --> 00:50:37,251 >> Chair Jefferson: any 1449 00:50:37,251 --> 00:50:37,685 questions where discussion on 1450 00:50:37,685 --> 00:50:38,119 this one? 1451 00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:39,653 Supervisor vega. 1452 00:50:39,653 --> 00:50:40,588 >> Yesli Vega: earlier this 1453 00:50:40,588 --> 00:50:42,156 year we had a presentation from 1454 00:50:42,156 --> 00:50:42,991 the chief and I know supervisor 1455 00:50:42,991 --> 00:50:43,958 gordy, there has been some 1456 00:50:43,958 --> 00:50:45,159 concern in regards to access to 1457 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,159 emergency services 1458 00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:53,234 . 1459 00:50:53,234 --> 00:50:54,680 And so I wanted at least some 1460 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,468 type of clarification in 1461 00:50:56,937 --> 00:50:58,573 regards to what the plan is 1462 00:50:58,573 --> 00:50:59,607 . 1463 00:50:59,607 --> 00:51:01,375 It is my understanding based on 1464 00:51:01,375 --> 00:51:02,100 the staff report that this does 1465 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:02,576 follow outside the four-minute 1466 00:51:02,576 --> 00:51:03,178 travel time for emergency 1467 00:51:03,178 --> 00:51:05,380 response and I just want to 1468 00:51:05,380 --> 00:51:08,980 know what the plan is in 1469 00:51:09,150 --> 00:51:09,851 regards to that. 1470 00:51:09,851 --> 00:51:14,651 Not sure if it is for you or 1471 00:51:19,727 --> 00:51:20,661 for alice to respond to. 1472 00:51:20,661 --> 00:51:21,195 >> I will say we have a new 1473 00:51:21,195 --> 00:51:22,620 fire station planned. 1474 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:25,662 It is programmed that is going 1475 00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:34,410 to help mitigate this probably 1476 00:51:34,410 --> 00:51:34,609 in the time from its 1477 00:51:34,609 --> 00:51:35,209 construction for this 1478 00:51:35,209 --> 00:51:35,809 development. 1479 00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:36,644 It is on wellington road not 1480 00:51:36,644 --> 00:51:37,277 more than two miles from its 1481 00:51:37,277 --> 00:51:38,145 location that is going to help 1482 00:51:38,145 --> 00:51:38,346 us solve the problem in the 1483 00:51:38,346 --> 00:51:39,470 area. 1484 00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:41,810 But I note it is pretty much in 1485 00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:43,810 this entire area. 1486 00:51:45,319 --> 00:51:46,286 We do desperately need more 1487 00:51:46,286 --> 00:51:46,921 fire support and I know the 1488 00:51:46,921 --> 00:51:50,521 chief, that is a priority for 1489 00:51:50,858 --> 00:51:51,558 him. 1490 00:51:51,558 --> 00:51:52,359 He has been working on getting 1491 00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:53,327 the and the news station on 1492 00:51:53,327 --> 00:51:54,161 wellington road is going to 1493 00:51:54,161 --> 00:51:56,561 help us get that. 1494 00:51:57,765 --> 00:51:58,499 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 1495 00:51:58,499 --> 00:51:59,133 Thank you so very much. 1496 00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:02,690 If there is no further 1497 00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:02,336 discussion I would like to get 1498 00:52:02,336 --> 00:52:03,103 a motion. 1499 00:52:03,103 --> 00:52:03,871 Sorry, we already have one on 1500 00:52:03,871 --> 00:52:03,938 the floor 1501 00:52:03,938 --> 00:52:05,906 . 1502 00:52:05,906 --> 00:52:08,906 Since there is no further 1503 00:52:09,577 --> 00:52:11,145 discussion, let's go ahead and 1504 00:52:11,145 --> 00:52:13,145 take the vote. 1505 00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:17,618 >> vote unanimous 1506 00:52:17,618 --> 00:52:19,186 . 1507 00:52:19,186 --> 00:52:19,987 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 1508 00:52:19,987 --> 00:52:20,654 Thank you so very much. 1509 00:52:20,654 --> 00:52:23,757 We are now going to go to 1510 00:52:23,757 --> 00:52:26,757 agenda item 8 and that is 1511 00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:50,415 county executive time. 1512 00:52:51,752 --> 00:52:53,752 >> MS. Roble: 1513 00:52:57,525 --> 00:52:58,225 >> MR. Shorter: good afternoon. 1514 00:52:58,225 --> 00:52:59,159 This is a bit of a surprise to 1515 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:00,828 the team but I wanted to use 1516 00:53:00,828 --> 00:53:01,461 this as an opportunity to 1517 00:53:01,461 --> 00:53:03,898 really give recognition to our 1518 00:53:03,898 --> 00:53:04,431 transportation transformation 1519 00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:06,431 management office. 1520 00:53:07,901 --> 00:53:12,101 All of them behind me here in 1521 00:53:13,274 --> 00:53:13,941 the board chambers of. 1522 00:53:13,941 --> 00:53:14,408 They have two years ago this 1523 00:53:14,408 --> 00:53:15,776 office was created. 1524 00:53:15,776 --> 00:53:16,644 And I will tell you 1525 00:53:16,644 --> 00:53:18,644 , they have 1526 00:53:20,848 --> 00:53:21,182 become a model team and a model 1527 00:53:21,182 --> 00:53:21,949 organization. 1528 00:53:21,949 --> 00:53:22,782 We are getting calls from 1529 00:53:22,782 --> 00:53:23,884 jurisdictions around the 1530 00:53:23,884 --> 00:53:24,718 country and certainly here in 1531 00:53:24,718 --> 00:53:27,718 the commonwealth about the work 1532 00:53:28,421 --> 00:53:29,390 of transformation. 1533 00:53:29,390 --> 00:53:31,390 They been responsible 1534 00:53:32,260 --> 00:53:34,260 initiating 41 countywide 1535 00:53:34,995 --> 00:53:35,329 projects 1536 00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:37,329 . 1537 00:53:37,665 --> 00:53:39,665 Nine community-based projects 1538 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:43,700 around the county and have been 1539 00:53:45,171 --> 00:53:45,372 doing absolutely phenomenal 1540 00:53:45,372 --> 00:53:45,972 work. 1541 00:53:45,972 --> 00:53:48,972 I wanted to take this 1542 00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:51,779 opportunity to recognize them 1543 00:53:51,779 --> 00:53:52,412 as they are transitioning out 1544 00:53:52,412 --> 00:53:53,113 in a new group of leaders will 1545 00:53:53,113 --> 00:53:55,281 be taking over in 1546 00:53:55,281 --> 00:53:57,281 transformation management. 1547 00:54:00,553 --> 00:54:01,788 The team has also transformed 1548 00:54:01,788 --> 00:54:03,788 key functions modernizing 1549 00:54:05,326 --> 00:54:06,226 processes and permitting land 1550 00:54:06,226 --> 00:54:07,360 acquisition, planning, 1551 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,228 procurement, transportation 1552 00:54:08,228 --> 00:54:08,495 projects and community 1553 00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:10,495 outreach. 1554 00:54:13,534 --> 00:54:14,601 The team is also 1555 00:54:14,601 --> 00:54:15,736 supported the launch of offices 1556 00:54:15,736 --> 00:54:17,370 such as sustainability, 1557 00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:19,370 community safety. 1558 00:54:20,507 --> 00:54:25,307 We are very close as we get to 1559 00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:26,947 FEBRUARY to coming back to the 1560 00:54:26,947 --> 00:54:27,514 board for your consideration 1561 00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:28,448 with the department of 1562 00:54:28,448 --> 00:54:29,816 transportation and capitol 1563 00:54:29,816 --> 00:54:30,817 construction, which will merge 1564 00:54:30,817 --> 00:54:32,786 much of our construction and 1565 00:54:32,786 --> 00:54:33,520 capitol efforts. 1566 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,454 The team has been absolutely 1567 00:54:34,454 --> 00:54:37,454 phenomenal making much of that 1568 00:54:45,632 --> 00:54:46,633 happened and supporting it 1569 00:54:46,633 --> 00:54:47,300 across the county and they have 1570 00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:48,134 strengthened the customer 1571 00:54:48,134 --> 00:54:49,135 experience by mapping 1572 00:54:49,135 --> 00:54:49,770 processing and permitting, 1573 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:51,404 planning libraries, public 1574 00:54:51,404 --> 00:54:52,272 works in the clerks office. 1575 00:54:52,272 --> 00:54:54,672 Really wanted to express 1576 00:54:59,345 --> 00:54:59,979 appreciation for the great work 1577 00:54:59,979 --> 00:55:00,847 they have done with a small 1578 00:55:00,847 --> 00:55:01,548 token and I have one 1579 00:55:01,548 --> 00:55:02,480 certificate for each of the 1580 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:02,849 leaders within pmo. 1581 00:55:02,849 --> 00:55:05,849 I'm going to read the 1582 00:55:06,953 --> 00:55:08,953 certificate. 1583 00:55:09,355 --> 00:55:13,555 Why don't you all come on down 1584 00:55:18,966 --> 00:55:19,265 . 1585 00:55:19,265 --> 00:55:19,966 [Applause] 1586 00:55:19,966 --> 00:55:20,700 So MADAM Chair, this 1587 00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:21,701 certificate reads "certificate 1588 00:55:21,701 --> 00:55:22,669 of appreciation and recognition 1589 00:55:22,669 --> 00:55:24,238 of your outstanding dedication 1590 00:55:24,238 --> 00:55:26,638 and leadership to the 1591 00:55:27,274 --> 00:55:29,274 transformation management 1592 00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:33,580 office during 2024 through 2025 1593 00:55:33,580 --> 00:55:38,380 and this is signed by me and I 1594 00:55:38,685 --> 00:55:39,920 have one for each of our 1595 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,920 phenomenal leaders in 1596 00:55:43,556 --> 00:55:44,557 transformation management. 1597 00:55:44,557 --> 00:55:44,758 Lisa, do you want to say a few 1598 00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:46,758 words? 1599 00:55:51,965 --> 00:55:52,832 >> on behalf of myself and 1600 00:55:52,832 --> 00:55:55,468 team, I want to thank you for 1601 00:55:55,468 --> 00:55:57,603 your innovative idea of this 1602 00:55:57,603 --> 00:55:59,603 opportunity. 1603 00:56:02,208 --> 00:56:03,430 We have had a great two years 1604 00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:03,676 getting to know the county 1605 00:56:03,676 --> 00:56:03,976 more, working across 1606 00:56:03,976 --> 00:56:04,430 departments 1607 00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:06,430 . 1608 00:56:06,713 --> 00:56:10,313 We loved being able to enhance 1609 00:56:11,851 --> 00:56:12,853 the customer experience and 1610 00:56:12,853 --> 00:56:13,786 offer meaningful and impactful 1611 00:56:13,786 --> 00:56:16,786 solutions and really just we 1612 00:56:22,762 --> 00:56:23,396 will take these tools and 1613 00:56:23,396 --> 00:56:24,330 skills back on are really 1614 00:56:24,330 --> 00:56:25,232 excited and thankful and really 1615 00:56:25,232 --> 00:56:25,765 excited it's continuing and 1616 00:56:25,765 --> 00:56:26,700 that the need two for the 1617 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:27,700 office is valued and have 1618 00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:29,350 really been beneficial. 1619 00:56:29,350 --> 00:56:31,350 Thank you all 1620 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:33,706 . 1621 00:56:33,706 --> 00:56:34,541 Thank you. 1622 00:56:34,541 --> 00:56:35,642 >> Kenny Boddye: MADAM Chair. 1623 00:56:35,642 --> 00:56:37,642 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 1624 00:56:38,111 --> 00:56:38,178 boddye 1625 00:56:38,178 --> 00:56:39,111 . 1626 00:56:39,111 --> 00:56:39,813 >> Kenny Boddye: I would be 1627 00:56:39,813 --> 00:56:40,713 remiss if I didn't mention for 1628 00:56:40,713 --> 00:56:41,147 the publix benefit that there 1629 00:56:41,147 --> 00:56:43,147 is a podcast. 1630 00:56:50,590 --> 00:56:51,224 If people didn't 1631 00:56:51,224 --> 00:56:51,524 know, they actually have their 1632 00:56:51,524 --> 00:56:52,592 own podcast. 1633 00:56:52,592 --> 00:56:53,326 It is for the good content so I 1634 00:56:53,326 --> 00:56:53,559 want to put it out for public 1635 00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:54,527 benefit. 1636 00:56:54,527 --> 00:56:55,228 Thank you. 1637 00:56:55,228 --> 00:56:55,795 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 1638 00:56:55,795 --> 00:56:56,463 thank you so very much. 1639 00:56:56,463 --> 00:56:59,198 I'm laughing because you are 1640 00:56:59,198 --> 00:57:00,200 tall. 1641 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,200 >> MR. Shorter: thank you all 1642 00:57:09,209 --> 00:57:09,809 very much. 1643 00:57:09,809 --> 00:57:10,310 You can have a seat. 1644 00:57:10,310 --> 00:57:11,210 We are going to be 1645 00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:12,211 transitioning to a new timo. 1646 00:57:12,211 --> 00:57:13,580 Mandy has been named our next 1647 00:57:13,580 --> 00:57:14,213 transformation management chief 1648 00:57:14,213 --> 00:57:14,414 and she will be starting next 1649 00:57:14,414 --> 00:57:16,414 month. 1650 00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:17,950 Again, I wanted to use this as 1651 00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:18,418 an opportunity to say thank 1652 00:57:18,418 --> 00:57:20,418 you. 1653 00:57:28,895 --> 00:57:29,562 It's not every day and of 1654 00:57:29,562 --> 00:57:30,963 course we have the members of 1655 00:57:30,963 --> 00:57:31,598 the t mo here, but I will tell 1656 00:57:31,598 --> 00:57:32,298 you dozens and dozens of staff 1657 00:57:32,298 --> 00:57:32,999 across the county who had to 1658 00:57:32,999 --> 00:57:33,966 backfill them in the agency 1659 00:57:33,966 --> 00:57:37,403 also had two years of training 1660 00:57:37,403 --> 00:57:38,338 and professional development so 1661 00:57:38,338 --> 00:57:39,720 want to thank all of them for 1662 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,339 serving on those active roles 1663 00:57:40,339 --> 00:57:40,473 as well 1664 00:57:40,473 --> 00:57:41,474 . 1665 00:57:41,474 --> 00:57:43,709 While I am here I wanted to go 1666 00:57:43,709 --> 00:57:44,376 ahead and provide the update I 1667 00:57:44,376 --> 00:57:44,711 always provide different cxo 1668 00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:46,711 time. 1669 00:57:49,816 --> 00:57:50,416 There were seven new 1670 00:57:50,416 --> 00:57:53,416 directives issued in our last 1671 00:57:55,788 --> 00:57:56,522 meeting. 1672 00:57:56,522 --> 00:57:57,457 Staff was directed to work with 1673 00:57:57,457 --> 00:58:00,457 the towing advisory board and 1674 00:58:02,195 --> 00:58:02,795 return in six months with a 1675 00:58:02,795 --> 00:58:03,663 report on data points in any 1676 00:58:03,663 --> 00:58:06,630 safety concerns or other 1677 00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:09,702 impacts related to the updates 1678 00:58:09,702 --> 00:58:10,770 to the towing ordinance this 1679 00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:11,370 directive was assigned to the 1680 00:58:11,370 --> 00:58:13,370 police department. 1681 00:58:16,175 --> 00:58:16,809 We were asked to provide a 1682 00:58:16,809 --> 00:58:17,843 report one year from now. 1683 00:58:17,843 --> 00:58:20,843 That includes an analysis of 1684 00:58:23,782 --> 00:58:24,490 the effectiveness of the noise 1685 00:58:24,490 --> 00:58:24,850 ordinance. 1686 00:58:24,850 --> 00:58:26,152 Any violations found, any 1687 00:58:26,152 --> 00:58:26,752 potential revisions to the 1688 00:58:26,752 --> 00:58:29,388 noise ordinance that needs to 1689 00:58:29,388 --> 00:58:33,588 be made on this was assigned to 1690 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,937 our public works department. 1691 00:58:44,937 --> 00:58:45,938 Three, we were asked to develop 1692 00:58:45,938 --> 00:58:46,806 an inventory of all boards, 1693 00:58:46,806 --> 00:58:47,840 committees, commissions, 1694 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,807 advisory and/or working groups 1695 00:58:48,807 --> 00:58:49,474 established by the board via 1696 00:58:49,474 --> 00:58:50,510 resolution or directive. 1697 00:58:50,510 --> 00:58:51,343 This directive was assigned to 1698 00:58:51,343 --> 00:58:54,343 the clerk of the board. 1699 00:58:56,315 --> 00:58:56,949 We 1700 00:58:56,949 --> 00:58:57,816 were asked to identify land to 1701 00:58:57,816 --> 00:58:58,817 purchase in the woodbridge 1702 00:58:58,817 --> 00:58:59,452 magisterial district suitable 1703 00:58:59,452 --> 00:59:01,754 to the development of the 1704 00:59:01,754 --> 00:59:02,688 community recreation center and 1705 00:59:02,688 --> 00:59:03,289 bring back appropriate 1706 00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:03,856 regulations for the board 1707 00:59:03,856 --> 00:59:04,791 consideration but this 1708 00:59:04,791 --> 00:59:07,791 directive was assigned to parks 1709 00:59:09,862 --> 00:59:10,863 and ffm. 1710 00:59:10,863 --> 00:59:11,764 Five, we were asked to develop 1711 00:59:11,764 --> 00:59:12,431 recommendations for 1712 00:59:12,431 --> 00:59:13,666 establishing a county owned and 1713 00:59:13,666 --> 00:59:14,566 maintained history museum 1714 00:59:14,566 --> 00:59:16,966 picked this directive was 1715 00:59:29,581 --> 00:59:30,820 assigned to parks 1716 00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:30,850 , facilities, 1717 00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:31,116 fleet management and to 1718 00:59:31,116 --> 00:59:31,984 planning. 1719 00:59:31,984 --> 00:59:32,851 Six, we were asked to develop 1720 00:59:32,851 --> 00:59:33,352 and present a framework for the 1721 00:59:33,352 --> 00:59:34,386 establishment of an 1722 00:59:34,386 --> 00:59:35,354 agricultural and forest reserve 1723 00:59:35,354 --> 00:59:35,988 picked this directive was 1724 00:59:35,988 --> 00:59:36,856 assigned to finance budget, 1725 00:59:36,856 --> 00:59:37,890 planning and public works. 1726 00:59:37,890 --> 00:59:38,523 And then finally, we were asked 1727 00:59:38,523 --> 00:59:39,792 to follow up to previous 1728 00:59:39,792 --> 00:59:40,492 directive to expedite the 1729 00:59:40,492 --> 00:59:41,526 exploration of the elimination 1730 00:59:41,526 --> 00:59:43,926 of the datacenter opportunity 1731 00:59:45,330 --> 00:59:46,198 zone overlay district in this 1732 00:59:46,198 --> 00:59:48,598 directive was assigned to 1733 00:59:50,302 --> 00:59:51,300 planning. 1734 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,403 There were three directives 1735 00:59:55,841 --> 00:59:56,875 closed since our last meeting. 1736 00:59:56,875 --> 00:59:57,743 Response to explore options for 1737 00:59:57,743 --> 00:59:59,743 establishing additional 1738 01:00:00,790 --> 01:00:01,413 community gardens on county 1739 01:00:01,413 --> 01:00:04,413 owned property in the follow-up 1740 01:00:05,183 --> 01:00:05,751 directive to add a potential 1741 01:00:05,751 --> 01:00:07,119 botanical garden at fackler 1742 01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:10,119 park was sent earlier this 1743 01:00:11,456 --> 01:00:13,856 month to the board. 1744 01:00:15,193 --> 01:00:15,861 And finally response to develop 1745 01:00:15,861 --> 01:00:18,861 a recommendation for a new 1746 01:00:19,264 --> 01:00:20,165 framework to leverage the power 1747 01:00:20,165 --> 01:00:23,765 the arts was provided to the 1748 01:00:23,769 --> 01:00:24,403 board last week. 1749 01:00:24,403 --> 01:00:28,300 Yes, so those were all the 1750 01:00:37,249 --> 01:00:37,983 directives opened and closed. 1751 01:00:37,983 --> 01:00:38,750 I would also like to express 1752 01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:39,510 real excitement about an 1753 01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:39,851 opportunity. 1754 01:00:39,851 --> 01:00:40,452 And I will have the chief to 1755 01:00:40,452 --> 01:00:41,253 come up and talk a bit about 1756 01:00:41,253 --> 01:00:41,987 this for a minute or two 1757 01:00:41,987 --> 01:00:42,388 because it is such a big deal 1758 01:00:42,388 --> 01:00:43,255 for our county. 1759 01:00:43,255 --> 01:00:43,955 The county fire rescue system 1760 01:00:43,955 --> 01:00:46,355 is introducing two major 1761 01:00:47,993 --> 01:00:48,594 lifesaving advancements here in 1762 01:00:48,594 --> 01:00:48,894 the county. 1763 01:00:48,894 --> 01:00:49,495 Nce I got word 1764 01:00:49,495 --> 01:00:51,730 that we had gotten to this 1765 01:00:51,730 --> 01:00:55,330 point, I wanted the chief to 1766 01:00:57,703 --> 01:00:58,370 come up and talk about this 1767 01:00:58,370 --> 01:00:59,270 because I really wanted the 1768 01:00:59,270 --> 01:01:00,205 board to have awareness of it 1769 01:01:00,205 --> 01:01:00,706 but also our community to have 1770 01:01:00,706 --> 01:01:00,906 awareness of it. 1771 01:01:00,906 --> 01:01:02,906 Chief? 1772 01:01:08,847 --> 01:01:09,848 Are you around? 1773 01:01:09,848 --> 01:01:12,150 >> I appreciate you raising the 1774 01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:12,251 podium before I got here 1775 01:01:12,251 --> 01:01:12,985 . 1776 01:01:12,985 --> 01:01:14,985 Good afternoon. 1777 01:01:22,928 --> 01:01:23,929 Tom, your fire chief. 1778 01:01:23,929 --> 01:01:24,563 MADAM Chair, members of the 1779 01:01:24,563 --> 01:01:25,497 board, I am always excited. 1780 01:01:25,497 --> 01:01:26,498 I am always so proud of the 1781 01:01:26,498 --> 01:01:28,900 career volunteers staff of the 1782 01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:29,601 amazing fire rescue system. 1783 01:01:29,601 --> 01:01:30,502 Even more so when are able to 1784 01:01:30,502 --> 01:01:33,502 give them the resources they 1785 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,730 need to literally save lives of 1786 01:01:35,730 --> 01:01:36,700 our residents and citizens. 1787 01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:37,410 Our two programs I want to talk 1788 01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:37,676 about. 1789 01:01:37,676 --> 01:01:40,120 The first will we will be 1790 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,412 introducing ultrasound and that 1791 01:01:47,753 --> 01:01:48,254 means we would be able to look 1792 01:01:48,254 --> 01:01:48,420 inside of patients. 1793 01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:49,321 E will 1794 01:01:49,321 --> 01:01:50,255 look at whether or not they are 1795 01:01:50,255 --> 01:01:52,255 having congestive heart 1796 01:01:59,864 --> 01:02:00,199 failure, whether it is a 1797 01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:01,990 copd 1798 01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:01,300 issue or they have a collapsed 1799 01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:02,100 lung. 1800 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:02,734 Also be able to see if their 1801 01:02:02,734 --> 01:02:03,802 heart has actually stopped. 1802 01:02:03,802 --> 01:02:04,336 All of those are incredibly 1803 01:02:04,336 --> 01:02:05,303 helpful in the field. 1804 01:02:05,303 --> 01:02:06,104 The second, just as exciting is 1805 01:02:06,104 --> 01:02:06,838 we will be delivering whole 1806 01:02:06,838 --> 01:02:08,640 blood in the field. 1807 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,841 That means 1808 01:02:09,841 --> 01:02:12,841 when an individual has a 1809 01:02:15,380 --> 01:02:16,214 dramatic injury and is bleeding 1810 01:02:16,214 --> 01:02:17,182 out, right now we don't have 1811 01:02:17,182 --> 01:02:17,815 the ability unless we call 1812 01:02:17,815 --> 01:02:18,717 another community to provide 1813 01:02:18,717 --> 01:02:20,952 whole blood to that person on 1814 01:02:20,952 --> 01:02:21,720 scene. 1815 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,156 We will have the ability around 1816 01:02:24,156 --> 01:02:24,255 the first week of DECEMBER 1817 01:02:24,255 --> 01:02:24,790 . 1818 01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:27,790 And I can tell he 1819 01:02:30,695 --> 01:02:31,362 unquestionably 1820 01:02:31,362 --> 01:02:31,997 , that will save 1821 01:02:31,997 --> 01:02:32,830 the lives of people in this 1822 01:02:32,830 --> 01:02:35,230 community who currently die 1823 01:02:37,102 --> 01:02:37,903 because we can't do it. 1824 01:02:37,903 --> 01:02:38,903 I'm also excited because we are 1825 01:02:38,903 --> 01:02:40,172 able to do this without asking 1826 01:02:40,172 --> 01:02:40,973 for resources and that's always 1827 01:02:40,973 --> 01:02:41,573 a good spot to be in. 1828 01:02:41,573 --> 01:02:43,573 As all 1829 01:02:45,444 --> 01:02:46,444 of you know, we've been looking 1830 01:02:46,444 --> 01:02:46,711 to try to be efficient with our 1831 01:02:46,711 --> 01:02:47,545 ems model. 1832 01:02:47,545 --> 01:02:49,470 We are continuing down that 1833 01:02:49,470 --> 01:02:49,114 road 1834 01:02:49,114 --> 01:02:51,114 . 1835 01:02:53,218 --> 01:02:54,118 The last two things is we could 1836 01:02:54,118 --> 01:02:57,118 not have possibly gotten this 1837 01:03:03,528 --> 01:03:03,861 done if you haven't approved 1838 01:03:03,861 --> 01:03:04,496 doctor. 1839 01:03:04,496 --> 01:03:05,290 [Name] To be our medical 1840 01:03:05,290 --> 01:03:05,664 director. 1841 01:03:05,664 --> 01:03:06,365 Most do you know I have a fair 1842 01:03:06,365 --> 01:03:06,998 amount of energy. 1843 01:03:06,998 --> 01:03:07,198 I'm not sure where he gets his 1844 01:03:07,198 --> 01:03:08,934 from. 1845 01:03:08,934 --> 01:03:09,968 He is bringing forward amazing 1846 01:03:09,968 --> 01:03:11,968 things for us. 1847 01:03:15,974 --> 01:03:16,775 This is a perfect example of 1848 01:03:16,775 --> 01:03:17,775 what we have been able to 1849 01:03:17,775 --> 01:03:18,442 accomplish with this medical 1850 01:03:18,442 --> 01:03:19,100 director. 1851 01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:19,177 I really enjoy working with 1852 01:03:19,177 --> 01:03:21,177 him. 1853 01:03:27,185 --> 01:03:28,252 In the last piece is this 1854 01:03:28,252 --> 01:03:29,187 saturday a volunteer station on 1855 01:03:29,187 --> 01:03:30,188 f st. We are going to be having 1856 01:03:30,188 --> 01:03:30,922 a blood drive because you can't 1857 01:03:30,922 --> 01:03:31,490 give out whole blood if you 1858 01:03:31,490 --> 01:03:33,910 don't have blood. 1859 01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:34,793 The good news is saturday from 1860 01:03:34,793 --> 01:03:35,360 8:00to 1:00. 1861 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,560 The chief and I will be the 1862 01:03:41,533 --> 01:03:42,433 first to know the good news is 1863 01:03:42,433 --> 01:03:45,336 if you wait yourself beforehand 1864 01:03:45,336 --> 01:03:46,400 and after you will lose weight. 1865 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,139 I really encourage everyone 1866 01:03:48,139 --> 01:03:50,608 listening to this to come out 1867 01:03:50,608 --> 01:03:52,910 from 8:00to 1:00 to our blood 1868 01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:53,110 drive 1869 01:03:53,110 --> 01:03:54,110 . 1870 01:03:54,110 --> 01:03:56,882 And a special shout out to. 1871 01:03:56,882 --> 01:03:59,282 [Name] Helping with this. 1872 01:04:08,326 --> 01:04:09,293 [Applause] 1873 01:04:09,293 --> 01:04:09,527 >> MR. Shorter: absolutely 1874 01:04:09,527 --> 01:04:09,894 amazing. 1875 01:04:09,894 --> 01:04:10,828 Ou can understand 1876 01:04:10,828 --> 01:04:11,463 why I wanted to have the chief 1877 01:04:11,463 --> 01:04:13,463 deliver that message. 1878 01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:16,701 It is such great news for our 1879 01:04:16,701 --> 01:04:17,602 community and for all of those 1880 01:04:17,602 --> 01:04:21,202 who will be helped by our 1881 01:04:24,308 --> 01:04:26,708 system in the future. 1882 01:04:31,282 --> 01:04:32,516 I wanted to quickly recognize 1883 01:04:32,516 --> 01:04:33,918 if you employees for their 1884 01:04:33,918 --> 01:04:34,485 outstanding work. 1885 01:04:34,485 --> 01:04:35,530 Big thanks to our planning 1886 01:04:35,530 --> 01:04:35,687 office in communication and 1887 01:04:35,687 --> 01:04:36,922 engagement for creating a small 1888 01:04:36,922 --> 01:04:40,959 area plan hub on the pwc works 1889 01:04:40,959 --> 01:04:41,626 platform 1890 01:04:41,626 --> 01:04:41,859 , on the pwc works 1891 01:04:41,859 --> 01:04:42,560 website. 1892 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:42,727 We are going to have the 1893 01:04:42,727 --> 01:04:43,628 next 1894 01:04:43,628 --> 01:04:46,628 time we are together on 1895 01:04:46,998 --> 01:04:47,766 DECEMBER 2, the planning 1896 01:04:47,766 --> 01:04:50,166 office talk about what's 1897 01:04:50,434 --> 01:04:53,271 happening on pwc works and 1898 01:04:53,271 --> 01:04:53,638 highlight advancements they 1899 01:04:53,638 --> 01:04:55,638 have made. 1900 01:05:01,345 --> 01:05:02,213 Not just the smaller implants 1901 01:05:02,213 --> 01:05:02,914 but there been some other 1902 01:05:02,914 --> 01:05:03,180 advancements we want to 1903 01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:03,914 highlight. 1904 01:05:03,914 --> 01:05:04,815 Last but certainly not least, I 1905 01:05:04,815 --> 01:05:08,886 want to give a big shout out to 1906 01:05:08,886 --> 01:05:09,520 all of those involved in 1907 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,822 responding to the gas leak 1908 01:05:11,822 --> 01:05:12,824 incident last friday. 1909 01:05:12,824 --> 01:05:16,894 I know that a few of you will 1910 01:05:16,894 --> 01:05:17,696 probably talk this as well at 1911 01:05:17,696 --> 01:05:18,296 some point. 1912 01:05:18,296 --> 01:05:21,296 The event necessitated in the 1913 01:05:29,173 --> 01:05:29,807 evacuation of 65 townhomes 1914 01:05:29,807 --> 01:05:30,641 leading to the need to 1915 01:05:30,641 --> 01:05:31,642 immediately shelter 82 people, 1916 01:05:31,642 --> 01:05:32,577 11 of whom were children at 1917 01:05:32,577 --> 01:05:32,810 woodbridge high school on 1918 01:05:32,810 --> 01:05:34,810 friday. 1919 01:05:34,846 --> 01:05:36,681 30 adults 1920 01:05:36,681 --> 01:05:37,681 , two children were 1921 01:05:37,681 --> 01:05:38,283 further assisted by further 1922 01:05:38,283 --> 01:05:40,683 emergency management and red 1923 01:05:41,819 --> 01:05:42,586 cross services and they could 1924 01:05:42,586 --> 01:05:43,521 not return home after the 1925 01:05:43,521 --> 01:05:46,521 emergency repair due to the 1926 01:05:47,491 --> 01:05:48,492 loss of heat. 1927 01:05:48,492 --> 01:05:51,492 We believe the certainly thanks 1928 01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:54,131 and recognition are in order 1929 01:05:54,131 --> 01:05:55,232 . 1930 01:05:55,232 --> 01:05:55,800 There are so many agencies that 1931 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,234 had a roll to play in this 1932 01:05:56,234 --> 01:05:58,234 process. 1933 01:06:00,370 --> 01:06:00,638 We were able to accomplish what 1934 01:06:00,638 --> 01:06:01,439 we believe was one of the 1935 01:06:01,439 --> 01:06:04,439 largest if not the largest 1936 01:06:06,777 --> 01:06:07,678 emergency evacuations that has 1937 01:06:07,678 --> 01:06:08,813 happened for the purpose of how 1938 01:06:08,813 --> 01:06:11,213 to this hazardous material 1939 01:06:14,585 --> 01:06:14,819 relief in recent history 1940 01:06:14,819 --> 01:06:15,786 . 1941 01:06:15,786 --> 01:06:16,453 We did that seamlessly and 1942 01:06:16,453 --> 01:06:17,721 humanely and I wanted to 1943 01:06:17,721 --> 01:06:17,988 recognize all the agencies 1944 01:06:17,988 --> 01:06:18,556 involved. 1945 01:06:18,556 --> 01:06:20,956 Are prince william county 1946 01:06:24,428 --> 01:06:25,462 department of fire and rescue, 1947 01:06:25,462 --> 01:06:26,797 occoquan woodbridge volunteer 1948 01:06:26,797 --> 01:06:27,798 fire department, nokesville 1949 01:06:27,798 --> 01:06:28,699 volunteer department, prince 1950 01:06:28,699 --> 01:06:29,767 william emergency management, 1951 01:06:29,767 --> 01:06:30,534 prince william public safety 1952 01:06:30,534 --> 01:06:32,534 communications. 1953 01:06:35,473 --> 01:06:36,474 Of course prince william county 1954 01:06:36,474 --> 01:06:38,309 police, red cross, washington 1955 01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:39,610 gas, prince william department 1956 01:06:39,610 --> 01:06:42,610 of services, omni right in 1957 01:06:42,980 --> 01:06:43,881 prince william public schools 1958 01:06:43,881 --> 01:06:48,810 all played a part we want to 1959 01:06:48,652 --> 01:06:49,520 recognize the great work that 1960 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,155 happened last friday. 1961 01:06:51,155 --> 01:06:51,655 [Applause] 1962 01:06:51,655 --> 01:06:54,655 That is all for me. 1963 01:06:55,392 --> 01:06:56,226 >> Chair Jefferson: hold on 1964 01:06:56,226 --> 01:06:57,940 supervisor franklin? 1965 01:06:57,940 --> 01:06:59,162 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: a 1966 01:06:59,162 --> 01:07:01,162 quick question. 1967 01:07:02,499 --> 01:07:04,201 I know a month ago you sent our 1968 01:07:04,201 --> 01:07:07,704 campaign that included a law of 1969 01:07:07,704 --> 01:07:07,804 important data points 1970 01:07:07,804 --> 01:07:08,773 . 1971 01:07:08,773 --> 01:07:11,773 I was also wondering whenever 1972 01:07:12,176 --> 01:07:13,210 you decide to schedule an 1973 01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:14,779 actual presentation for the 1974 01:07:14,779 --> 01:07:18,379 board if it can include our 1975 01:07:20,417 --> 01:07:22,419 marketing strategy for the -- 1976 01:07:22,419 --> 01:07:25,419 whatever we are calling it. 1977 01:07:25,522 --> 01:07:26,257 The raccoon. 1978 01:07:26,257 --> 01:07:28,657 >> MR. Shorter: we absolutely 1979 01:07:33,364 --> 01:07:33,563 will 1980 01:07:33,563 --> 01:07:34,165 . 1981 01:07:34,165 --> 01:07:34,532 They MAY or MAY not be 1982 01:07:34,532 --> 01:07:35,366 appearance. 1983 01:07:35,366 --> 01:07:36,300 I think we are planning to come 1984 01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:37,434 in DECEMBER with a presentation 1985 01:07:37,434 --> 01:07:38,435 and an update to the board. 1986 01:07:38,435 --> 01:07:38,802 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 1987 01:07:38,802 --> 01:07:39,569 that is helpful. 1988 01:07:39,569 --> 01:07:40,637 i want to make sure we are 1989 01:07:40,637 --> 01:07:43,637 marketing in various parts of 1990 01:07:47,844 --> 01:07:48,120 the county, various modes 1991 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:48,746 . 1992 01:07:48,746 --> 01:07:49,213 I haven't seen a lot but I'm in 1993 01:07:49,213 --> 01:07:50,180 the right places. 1994 01:07:50,180 --> 01:07:53,183 I'm certainly up and down route 1995 01:07:53,183 --> 01:07:54,184 1. I MAY have questions about 1996 01:07:54,184 --> 01:07:57,784 where exactly are we doing our 1997 01:08:03,727 --> 01:08:04,395 targeting and how effective is 1998 01:08:04,395 --> 01:08:05,328 the actual campaign. 1999 01:08:05,328 --> 01:08:06,230 I know the litter crew is doing 2000 01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:07,230 the work but we need to raise 2001 01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:08,298 awareness to residents so that 2002 01:08:08,298 --> 01:08:08,365 we all do better 2003 01:08:08,365 --> 01:08:10,365 . 2004 01:08:11,435 --> 01:08:11,768 >> MR. Shorter: happy to 2005 01:08:11,768 --> 01:08:12,502 include that. 2006 01:08:12,502 --> 01:08:14,902 >> Chair Jefferson: we did 2007 01:08:16,172 --> 01:08:16,440 speak about that and I 2008 01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:16,906 , for the 2009 01:08:16,906 --> 01:08:17,474 record. 2010 01:08:17,474 --> 01:08:20,744 I did not put her up to ask 2011 01:08:20,744 --> 01:08:21,645 about trash. 2012 01:08:21,645 --> 01:08:24,214 But I want everyone to know 2013 01:08:24,214 --> 01:08:25,349 whenever you pick up a piece of 2014 01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:28,349 litter, the spirit of trashy 2015 01:08:33,220 --> 01:08:33,523 lives within you. 2016 01:08:33,523 --> 01:08:33,724 I couldn't help it. 2017 01:08:33,724 --> 01:08:34,190 Love the 2018 01:08:34,190 --> 01:08:35,125 mom jokes. 2019 01:08:35,125 --> 01:08:36,159 Supervisor bailey? 2020 01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:36,426 >> Andrea Bailey: I wanted to 2021 01:08:36,426 --> 01:08:38,426 thank 2022 01:08:39,896 --> 01:08:41,896 , personally thank on 2023 01:08:45,435 --> 01:08:47,300 behalf of the board lisa as she 2024 01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:47,504 was a part of the team 2025 01:08:47,504 --> 01:08:49,504 . 2026 01:08:52,442 --> 01:08:53,310 One of the things I got scared 2027 01:08:53,310 --> 01:08:54,677 about was who is going to take 2028 01:08:54,677 --> 01:08:55,345 care of the crc. 2029 01:08:55,345 --> 01:08:57,747 And she took it with her. 2030 01:08:57,747 --> 01:09:01,347 She had two new assignments to 2031 01:09:01,652 --> 01:09:02,519 work with her team and I really 2032 01:09:02,519 --> 01:09:05,519 appreciate the delivery of the 2033 01:09:05,756 --> 01:09:08,392 crisis receiving center as you 2034 01:09:08,392 --> 01:09:09,250 embarked upon raising us up 2035 01:09:09,250 --> 01:09:11,795 with your team for prince 2036 01:09:11,795 --> 01:09:12,462 william county. 2037 01:09:12,462 --> 01:09:13,997 Your giftedness goes before 2038 01:09:13,997 --> 01:09:15,997 you. 2039 01:09:20,937 --> 01:09:21,938 So thank you. 2040 01:09:21,938 --> 01:09:22,639 >> Chair Jefferson: we don't 2041 01:09:22,639 --> 01:09:23,707 have any further comments or 2042 01:09:23,707 --> 01:09:24,474 you can roll into agency time. 2043 01:09:24,474 --> 01:09:26,474 I'm sorry. 2044 01:09:28,411 --> 01:09:30,411 County attorney time. 2045 01:09:50,700 --> 01:09:52,869 >> MS. Roble: this afternoon in 2046 01:09:52,869 --> 01:09:53,536 session we will have 2047 01:09:53,536 --> 01:09:54,203 consultation with legal counsel 2048 01:09:54,203 --> 01:09:55,205 and briefings by staff members 2049 01:09:55,205 --> 01:09:55,973 pertaining to the discussion or 2050 01:09:55,973 --> 01:09:56,707 consideration of acquisition of 2051 01:09:56,707 --> 01:09:57,407 real property for public 2052 01:09:57,407 --> 01:09:58,307 purposes to include for public 2053 01:09:58,307 --> 01:09:59,309 safety and other public uses 2054 01:09:59,309 --> 01:10:00,209 where discussion in an open 2055 01:10:00,209 --> 01:10:01,211 meeting would adversely affect 2056 01:10:01,211 --> 01:10:01,778 the bargaining position in 2057 01:10:01,778 --> 01:10:02,713 litigating posture or 2058 01:10:02,713 --> 01:10:03,413 negotiating strategy of the 2059 01:10:03,413 --> 01:10:03,947 public body. 2060 01:10:03,947 --> 01:10:04,714 We will have a personal 2061 01:10:04,714 --> 01:10:05,415 discussion relating to the 2062 01:10:05,415 --> 01:10:06,716 appointments and officers of 2063 01:10:06,716 --> 01:10:09,116 the potomac and transportation 2064 01:10:14,124 --> 01:10:14,891 commission chair pro tem of 2065 01:10:14,891 --> 01:10:15,920 the 2066 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:15,792 board. 2067 01:10:15,792 --> 01:10:16,526 Members of the board audit 2068 01:10:16,526 --> 01:10:17,794 committee, members of the joint 2069 01:10:17,794 --> 01:10:19,529 audit committee, and members 2070 01:10:19,529 --> 01:10:20,430 the metropolitan washington 2071 01:10:20,430 --> 01:10:21,464 council of governments climate 2072 01:10:21,464 --> 01:10:22,298 energy and environmental policy 2073 01:10:22,298 --> 01:10:22,999 committee and chesapeake bay 2074 01:10:22,999 --> 01:10:24,300 and water resource policy 2075 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:24,901 committee. 2076 01:10:24,901 --> 01:10:25,702 We will personal discussions 2077 01:10:25,702 --> 01:10:26,303 relating to the animal 2078 01:10:26,303 --> 01:10:26,937 evaluation of the county 2079 01:10:26,937 --> 01:10:27,804 attorney and the county 2080 01:10:27,804 --> 01:10:28,805 executive or consultation in 2081 01:10:28,805 --> 01:10:29,472 briefing and discussion in an 2082 01:10:29,472 --> 01:10:30,473 open meeting would adversely 2083 01:10:30,473 --> 01:10:32,873 affect the bargaining position 2084 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:35,311 in litigating posture and 2085 01:10:35,311 --> 01:10:35,946 negotiating strategy and these 2086 01:10:35,946 --> 01:10:37,130 are appropriate for closed 2087 01:10:37,130 --> 01:10:39,882 session pursuant to 2.2-3711 a, 2088 01:10:39,882 --> 01:10:40,150 one entry of the code of 2089 01:10:40,150 --> 01:10:40,917 virginia. 2090 01:10:40,917 --> 01:10:42,510 >> Andrea Bailey: the moved. 2091 01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:42,753 >> Kenny Boddye: second. 2092 01:10:42,753 --> 01:10:43,185 >> Chair Jefferson: properly 2093 01:10:43,185 --> 01:10:43,820 moved and seconded. 2094 01:10:43,820 --> 01:10:44,720 Let's go ahead and take our 2095 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,720 vote. 2096 01:10:49,959 --> 01:10:51,959 >> vote unanimous 2097 01:10:52,595 --> 01:10:53,563 . 2098 01:10:53,563 --> 01:10:54,664 >> Chair Jefferson: okay. 2099 01:10:54,664 --> 01:10:55,398 Now we can do agency time. 2100 01:10:55,398 --> 01:10:55,598 >> MR. Shorter: thank you very 2101 01:10:55,598 --> 01:10:55,732 much. 2102 01:10:55,732 --> 01:10:56,265 I 2103 01:10:56,265 --> 01:10:57,634 want to thank the sheriff and 2104 01:10:57,634 --> 01:10:57,767 all our constitutional officers 2105 01:10:57,767 --> 01:10:59,767 . 2106 01:11:02,539 --> 01:11:03,539 I see the clerk here as well 2107 01:11:03,539 --> 01:11:03,739 for their willingness to come 2108 01:11:03,739 --> 01:11:05,800 down. 2109 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,110 What we wanted to do, unlike 2110 01:11:08,110 --> 01:11:09,110 last year, is out of our 2111 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:11,110 constitutional officers present 2112 01:11:11,147 --> 01:11:12,480 directly to the board their 2113 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,885 budget as part of the, as we 2114 01:11:15,885 --> 01:11:18,922 get started in terms of the fy 2115 01:11:18,922 --> 01:11:19,622 27 budget development process 2116 01:11:19,622 --> 01:11:20,589 for the process as we talked 2117 01:11:20,589 --> 01:11:22,989 about during the committee 2118 01:11:23,192 --> 01:11:23,827 meeting this morning will move 2119 01:11:23,827 --> 01:11:27,427 forward in the way that it 2120 01:11:27,763 --> 01:11:28,398 always does. 2121 01:11:28,398 --> 01:11:29,533 But we won't wanted to make 2122 01:11:29,533 --> 01:11:31,533 sure constitutional officers 2123 01:11:31,668 --> 01:11:34,136 had an opportunity to present 2124 01:11:34,136 --> 01:11:35,138 to the board directly. 2125 01:11:35,138 --> 01:11:36,672 We are starting that process in 2126 01:11:36,672 --> 01:11:39,175 earnest with the sheriff and I 2127 01:11:39,175 --> 01:11:41,176 want to thank him again for 2128 01:11:41,176 --> 01:11:43,176 being here. 2129 01:11:54,591 --> 01:11:55,325 You can take it away. 2130 01:11:55,325 --> 01:11:56,292 >> I am sheriff glenn hill, I 2131 01:11:56,292 --> 01:11:59,892 am elected every four years to 2132 01:12:06,769 --> 01:12:07,570 serve prince william county and 2133 01:12:07,570 --> 01:12:07,904 the city of manassas and 2134 01:12:07,904 --> 01:12:08,738 manassas park. 2135 01:12:08,738 --> 01:12:09,772 My sincere thanks to the board 2136 01:12:09,772 --> 01:12:10,706 for giving me the opportunity 2137 01:12:10,706 --> 01:12:11,641 to come before you to present 2138 01:12:11,641 --> 01:12:13,576 the sheriff's office fy 27 2139 01:12:13,576 --> 01:12:14,411 budget request. 2140 01:12:14,411 --> 01:12:15,912 With me this afternoon as chief 2141 01:12:15,912 --> 01:12:17,912 deputy 2142 01:12:18,647 --> 01:12:20,647 , budget analyst whitney 2143 01:12:23,452 --> 01:12:23,953 brown 2144 01:12:23,953 --> 01:12:24,553 . 2145 01:12:24,553 --> 01:12:27,553 During my presentation I will 2146 01:12:27,556 --> 01:12:28,357 talk briefly about who we are, 2147 01:12:28,357 --> 01:12:29,726 how we serve our mandated 2148 01:12:29,726 --> 01:12:31,726 responsibilities in our 2149 01:12:34,163 --> 01:12:34,797 prevention program that 2150 01:12:34,797 --> 01:12:37,797 contributes to a better quality 2151 01:12:40,136 --> 01:12:41,137 of life for our community. 2152 01:12:41,137 --> 01:12:44,173 I will conclude my fy 27 budget 2153 01:12:44,173 --> 01:12:46,573 request and answer any 2154 01:12:55,617 --> 01:12:56,586 questions you MAY have. 2155 01:12:56,586 --> 01:12:58,855 Our mission statement explains 2156 01:12:58,855 --> 01:12:59,488 our commitment to our values 2157 01:12:59,488 --> 01:13:00,189 , 2158 01:13:00,189 --> 01:13:01,256 profession, and the community 2159 01:13:01,256 --> 01:13:03,256 we serve 2160 01:13:12,935 --> 01:13:13,235 . 2161 01:13:13,235 --> 01:13:13,436 Who we are. 2162 01:13:13,436 --> 01:13:14,336 The 2163 01:13:14,336 --> 01:13:15,400 sheriff's office the oldest 2164 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:15,571 numbers agency established in 2165 01:13:15,571 --> 01:13:17,571 prince william county. 2166 01:13:23,450 --> 01:13:23,746 The police department was 2167 01:13:23,746 --> 01:13:24,614 established in 1970 to provide 2168 01:13:24,614 --> 01:13:25,481 law enforcement duties picked 2169 01:13:25,481 --> 01:13:26,248 the prince william manassas 2170 01:13:26,248 --> 01:13:28,648 regional jail operation begun 2171 01:13:29,185 --> 01:13:29,886 in 1982. 2172 01:13:29,886 --> 01:13:30,819 All court functions remain with 2173 01:13:30,819 --> 01:13:33,819 the sheriff's office, but we 2174 01:13:34,290 --> 01:13:35,290 collaborate with all public 2175 01:13:35,290 --> 01:13:38,290 safety agencies to maintain the 2176 01:13:38,461 --> 01:13:41,461 highest level of service for 2177 01:13:44,666 --> 01:13:46,666 our community. 2178 01:13:48,671 --> 01:13:52,871 This slide is a summary of how 2179 01:13:53,942 --> 01:13:54,644 we serve our mandated primary 2180 01:13:54,644 --> 01:13:55,911 responsibilities and how we 2181 01:13:55,911 --> 01:13:58,311 assist other law enforcement 2182 01:14:02,150 --> 01:14:04,150 agencies. 2183 01:14:10,759 --> 01:14:11,494 The most important position on 2184 01:14:11,494 --> 01:14:12,327 our organization chart is at 2185 01:14:12,327 --> 01:14:14,327 the top. 2186 01:14:18,801 --> 01:14:19,367 The citizens and community we 2187 01:14:19,367 --> 01:14:20,269 serve. 2188 01:14:20,269 --> 01:14:20,936 additionally the chart allows 2189 01:14:20,936 --> 01:14:23,605 everyone to see the chain of 2190 01:14:23,605 --> 01:14:24,390 command and understand the 2191 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:24,574 structure and 2192 01:14:24,574 --> 01:14:26,574 functions of our 2193 01:14:35,150 --> 01:14:36,850 office. 2194 01:14:36,850 --> 01:14:38,850 Courthouse security. 2195 01:14:38,487 --> 01:14:39,522 Providing courthouse security 2196 01:14:39,522 --> 01:14:43,122 is one of the many mandated 2197 01:14:44,927 --> 01:14:46,294 responsibilities of a sure. 2198 01:14:46,294 --> 01:14:49,294 The court services division is 2199 01:14:51,367 --> 01:14:52,300 responsible upholding the 2200 01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:52,935 integrity of the judicial 2201 01:14:52,935 --> 01:14:54,403 process provisions office 2202 01:14:54,403 --> 01:14:55,700 provides 24 hours a committee 2203 01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:56,305 in and around the judicial 2204 01:14:56,305 --> 01:14:56,905 center complex 2205 01:14:56,905 --> 01:14:58,905 . 2206 01:15:01,610 --> 01:15:03,979 In fy 25 the courthouse screen 2207 01:15:03,979 --> 01:15:05,814 300,137 individuals who entered 2208 01:15:05,814 --> 01:15:07,814 the courthouse 2209 01:15:09,284 --> 01:15:11,860 . 2210 01:15:11,860 --> 01:15:11,654 Approximately 90 people who 2211 01:15:11,654 --> 01:15:14,540 entered the courthouse and 2212 01:15:14,356 --> 01:15:14,990 therefore court purposes 2213 01:15:14,990 --> 01:15:16,625 . 2214 01:15:16,625 --> 01:15:17,259 Some of them are uncomfortable 2215 01:15:17,259 --> 01:15:17,726 entering and being in the 2216 01:15:17,726 --> 01:15:18,270 courthouse 2217 01:15:18,270 --> 01:15:20,270 . 2218 01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:22,631 That is why I'm so proud of my 2219 01:15:22,631 --> 01:15:25,233 deputies who do an outstanding 2220 01:15:25,233 --> 01:15:25,501 job reading, screening, and 2221 01:15:25,501 --> 01:15:27,501 assisting 2222 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,505 individuals, entering 2223 01:15:30,505 --> 01:15:32,140 the courthouse to make them 2224 01:15:32,140 --> 01:15:33,108 feel comfortable. 2225 01:15:33,108 --> 01:15:36,770 They also assist the physically 2226 01:15:36,770 --> 01:15:38,477 impaired and ensure businesses 2227 01:15:38,814 --> 01:15:39,114 know how to get to their 2228 01:15:39,114 --> 01:15:41,114 destination. 2229 01:15:43,151 --> 01:15:43,886 You won't find too many 2230 01:15:43,886 --> 01:15:44,820 courthouse is anywhere that 2231 01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:48,420 greet the public when they come 2232 01:15:49,758 --> 01:15:52,158 in and assist them. 2233 01:15:52,394 --> 01:15:55,394 Deputies off often respond to 2234 01:15:56,599 --> 01:15:57,532 unusual circumstances and 2235 01:15:57,532 --> 01:15:58,199 situations in and around the 2236 01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:01,199 courthouse and are often the 2237 01:16:01,670 --> 01:16:02,871 first responders when someone 2238 01:16:02,871 --> 01:16:02,938 suffers a medical emergency 2239 01:16:02,938 --> 01:16:04,938 . 2240 01:16:06,308 --> 01:16:09,308 Some officers have alarms in 2241 01:16:12,481 --> 01:16:13,181 case of an emergency. 2242 01:16:13,181 --> 01:16:14,550 We work with other agencies in 2243 01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:15,750 the courthouse to implement 2244 01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:15,951 evacuation procedures 2245 01:16:15,951 --> 01:16:16,818 . 2246 01:16:16,818 --> 01:16:19,218 Deputies escort individuals and 2247 01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:25,900 families to ensure their safe 2248 01:16:28,930 --> 01:16:29,431 departure from the courthouse. 2249 01:16:29,431 --> 01:16:29,564 Courtroom security. 2250 01:16:29,564 --> 01:16:30,432 Will 2251 01:16:30,432 --> 01:16:32,832 focus on courtroom security 2252 01:16:35,871 --> 01:16:36,805 because this is a function of 2253 01:16:36,805 --> 01:16:39,805 our office of the requesting 2254 01:16:40,342 --> 01:16:42,770 additional personnel. 2255 01:16:42,770 --> 01:16:42,611 The courthouse is 18 courtrooms 2256 01:16:42,611 --> 01:16:44,611 . 2257 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:45,981 Where the second busiest 2258 01:16:45,981 --> 01:16:47,981 courthouse. 2259 01:16:49,384 --> 01:16:52,384 Our circuit court has seven 2260 01:16:55,924 --> 01:16:57,492 courtrooms 2261 01:16:57,492 --> 01:16:58,459 . 2262 01:16:58,459 --> 01:16:58,860 Court room deputies primary 2263 01:16:58,860 --> 01:16:59,160 responsibility is 2264 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,280 to provide 2265 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,662 security and maintain order in 2266 01:17:00,662 --> 01:17:03,620 the court room, including 2267 01:17:03,231 --> 01:17:04,166 inmate supervision. 2268 01:17:04,166 --> 01:17:05,767 And prince of them county 2269 01:17:05,767 --> 01:17:08,767 deputies provide support to the 2270 01:17:10,538 --> 01:17:11,973 clerks and managing jurors and 2271 01:17:11,973 --> 01:17:14,373 handle additional related tests 2272 01:17:14,576 --> 01:17:16,377 and other duties are courthouse 2273 01:17:16,377 --> 01:17:18,777 security and courtroom security 2274 01:17:20,749 --> 01:17:20,915 is a collective effort 2275 01:17:20,915 --> 01:17:21,884 . 2276 01:17:21,884 --> 01:17:24,284 Everyone, regardless of their 2277 01:17:26,540 --> 01:17:26,921 rank, including me and the 2278 01:17:26,921 --> 01:17:30,521 captains of rain, we must all 2279 01:17:30,625 --> 01:17:31,526 participate to ensure every 2280 01:17:31,526 --> 01:17:32,694 courtroom is properly staffed 2281 01:17:32,694 --> 01:17:35,940 and advanced preparation is 2282 01:17:37,632 --> 01:17:37,933 required 2283 01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:38,900 . 2284 01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:39,468 In other words, we plan days 2285 01:17:39,468 --> 01:17:41,436 before how we are going to 2286 01:17:41,436 --> 01:17:41,603 manage our courtrooms 2287 01:17:41,603 --> 01:17:42,270 . 2288 01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:45,270 two deputies are assigned to 2289 01:17:46,508 --> 01:17:47,509 each circuit court room. 2290 01:17:47,509 --> 01:17:49,909 Some cases require additional 2291 01:17:52,213 --> 01:17:52,814 deputies for security. 2292 01:17:52,814 --> 01:17:53,714 Jury movement and other 2293 01:17:53,714 --> 01:17:54,349 additional screening of 2294 01:17:54,349 --> 01:17:56,349 courtroom attendees before 2295 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:00,210 court begins frequently maria 2296 01:18:00,210 --> 01:18:03,210 signs from other duties to 2297 01:18:03,759 --> 01:18:03,858 assist in our courtrooms 2298 01:18:03,858 --> 01:18:05,858 . 2299 01:18:06,227 --> 01:18:09,827 I will talk later about the 2300 01:18:11,332 --> 01:18:12,367 presentation about the deputies 2301 01:18:12,367 --> 01:18:14,335 assistant and his impact on the 2302 01:18:14,335 --> 01:18:16,735 duties and responsibilities are 2303 01:18:18,606 --> 01:18:19,307 to assist us with court 2304 01:18:19,307 --> 01:18:21,307 responsibilities, we utilize 2305 01:18:21,476 --> 01:18:23,876 off-duty jail officers reserve 2306 01:18:27,916 --> 01:18:28,916 deputies. 2307 01:18:28,916 --> 01:18:31,753 Our general district court past 2308 01:18:31,753 --> 01:18:31,919 five courtrooms 2309 01:18:31,919 --> 01:18:32,587 . 2310 01:18:32,587 --> 01:18:36,187 If one deputy is assigned to 2311 01:18:38,993 --> 01:18:39,760 each courtroom the deputies 2312 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:40,461 assist in this courtroom 2313 01:18:40,461 --> 01:18:42,230 receive most of the assistance 2314 01:18:42,230 --> 01:18:43,197 from the deputies assigned to 2315 01:18:43,197 --> 01:18:45,597 the deployment and inmate 2316 01:18:47,168 --> 01:18:48,169 movement. 2317 01:18:48,169 --> 01:18:50,569 Juvenile and domestic relations 2318 01:18:52,473 --> 01:18:54,709 court is our third court. 2319 01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:56,709 Uvenile domestic relations 2320 01:18:59,848 --> 01:18:59,947 court has six courtrooms. 2321 01:18:59,947 --> 01:19:00,982 Ne 2322 01:19:00,982 --> 01:19:02,583 deputy assigned to each one of 2323 01:19:02,583 --> 01:19:02,784 those courtrooms 2324 01:19:02,784 --> 01:19:03,551 . 2325 01:19:03,551 --> 01:19:06,287 A new law went into effect JULY 2326 01:19:06,287 --> 01:19:08,687 1 permitting the use of 2327 01:19:12,193 --> 01:19:12,794 juvenile restraints unless 2328 01:19:12,794 --> 01:19:13,695 approved by a judge. 2329 01:19:13,695 --> 01:19:17,895 We now have a court order to 2330 01:19:21,169 --> 01:19:22,103 request a special hearing to 2331 01:19:22,103 --> 01:19:22,904 use restraints there's no 2332 01:19:22,904 --> 01:19:23,771 guarantee our request is going 2333 01:19:23,771 --> 01:19:27,971 to be granted and we have had 2334 01:19:33,148 --> 01:19:33,748 some interesting experiences in 2335 01:19:33,748 --> 01:19:33,981 supervising our juveniles. 2336 01:19:33,981 --> 01:19:34,782 People 2337 01:19:34,782 --> 01:19:36,840 are waiting to appear in 2338 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:36,684 court frequently asked for 2339 01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:38,684 assistance involving security 2340 01:19:39,553 --> 01:19:40,555 and safety in the courthouse. 2341 01:19:40,555 --> 01:19:41,555 Many people we escort to the 2342 01:19:41,555 --> 01:19:44,555 vehicles are involved in cases 2343 01:19:46,827 --> 01:19:47,729 out of juvenile court. 2344 01:19:47,729 --> 01:19:50,729 Are controls in a dispatch 2345 01:19:51,298 --> 01:19:52,299 . 2346 01:19:52,299 --> 01:19:53,467 The sheriff's office public 2347 01:19:53,467 --> 01:19:55,467 safety telecommunications for 2348 01:19:58,339 --> 01:19:59,307 calls for service and the 2349 01:19:59,307 --> 01:20:00,308 judicial center complex called 2350 01:20:00,308 --> 01:20:01,275 transportation and other units 2351 01:20:01,275 --> 01:20:03,275 communicate with the 2352 01:20:04,579 --> 01:20:05,313 dispatchers. 2353 01:20:05,313 --> 01:20:08,313 Process deputies, the ones out 2354 01:20:08,650 --> 01:20:09,583 in our community communicate 2355 01:20:09,583 --> 01:20:11,983 with prince william county 2356 01:20:12,754 --> 01:20:13,421 dispatchers 2357 01:20:13,421 --> 01:20:14,210 . 2358 01:20:14,210 --> 01:20:14,455 They receive and process all 2359 01:20:14,455 --> 01:20:16,455 incoming calls for 2360 01:20:16,990 --> 01:20:17,458 this office. 2361 01:20:17,458 --> 01:20:18,892 Our public safety 2362 01:20:18,892 --> 01:20:20,892 telecommunications required to 2363 01:20:23,363 --> 01:20:23,864 complete dispatch basic 2364 01:20:23,864 --> 01:20:25,864 academy. 2365 01:20:26,660 --> 01:20:28,466 Additionally they maintain a 2366 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,404 level of certification through 2367 01:20:34,208 --> 01:20:36,608 a virginia criminal information 2368 01:20:37,745 --> 01:20:38,445 network. 2369 01:20:38,445 --> 01:20:40,845 They monitor over 200 cameras 2370 01:20:41,482 --> 01:20:43,882 to assist courthouse deputies 2371 01:20:44,752 --> 01:20:45,586 pick they monitor and dispatch 2372 01:20:45,586 --> 01:20:47,586 50 emergency alarms throughout 2373 01:20:49,156 --> 01:20:50,657 the courthouse so a lot of 2374 01:20:50,657 --> 01:20:52,626 offices have those in their 2375 01:20:52,626 --> 01:20:55,260 offices and our dispatcher 2376 01:20:57,970 --> 01:20:58,198 monitors those 2377 01:20:58,198 --> 01:20:59,366 . 2378 01:20:59,366 --> 01:21:00,201 They also checked the movement 2379 01:21:00,201 --> 01:21:03,700 of inmates in the courthouse 2380 01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:05,506 throughout the courthouse on a 2381 01:21:05,506 --> 01:21:07,506 daily basis 2382 01:21:08,409 --> 01:21:09,409 . 2383 01:21:09,409 --> 01:21:11,809 Our employment personnel are 2384 01:21:20,354 --> 01:21:20,988 assigned to vertical implement 2385 01:21:20,988 --> 01:21:21,922 to receive inmates from the 2386 01:21:21,922 --> 01:21:22,422 adult detention center from 2387 01:21:22,422 --> 01:21:23,230 court. 2388 01:21:23,230 --> 01:21:23,190 inmates are then escorted to 2389 01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:25,190 and 2390 01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:25,826 from courtrooms within the 2391 01:21:25,826 --> 01:21:26,827 courthouse. 2392 01:21:26,827 --> 01:21:27,494 Inmates remain in our custody a 2393 01:21:27,494 --> 01:21:29,630 return to the adult detention 2394 01:21:29,630 --> 01:21:30,197 center to serve a sentence, 2395 01:21:30,197 --> 01:21:31,498 remain in custody pending a 2396 01:21:31,498 --> 01:21:31,765 court date or they MAY be 2397 01:21:31,765 --> 01:21:33,765 released. 2398 01:21:33,901 --> 01:21:36,136 They also take into custody 2399 01:21:36,136 --> 01:21:38,536 persons committed to adult 2400 01:21:39,473 --> 01:21:40,730 detention center and process 2401 01:21:40,730 --> 01:21:42,510 and for them to the adult 2402 01:21:42,510 --> 01:21:42,642 detention center 2403 01:21:42,642 --> 01:21:44,642 . 2404 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:46,914 In fy 25 this section escorted 2405 01:21:46,914 --> 01:21:49,716 30,000 inmates to and from the 2406 01:21:49,716 --> 01:21:52,116 courthouse to the adult 2407 01:21:54,721 --> 01:21:55,722 detention center. 2408 01:21:55,722 --> 01:21:56,657 The live scan section is 2409 01:21:56,657 --> 01:21:57,591 responsible for mandated 2410 01:21:57,591 --> 01:21:59,991 processing of section sexual 2411 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:05,766 offenders for persons convicted 2412 01:22:05,766 --> 01:22:06,700 of certain offenses are 2413 01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:07,734 processed and dna is collected 2414 01:22:07,734 --> 01:22:09,269 and sent to the state forensic 2415 01:22:09,269 --> 01:22:09,970 laboratory. 2416 01:22:09,970 --> 01:22:12,439 Persons released by the police 2417 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,390 on a summons for violations are 2418 01:22:17,444 --> 01:22:20,444 processed by this section after 2419 01:22:25,752 --> 01:22:26,353 their court appearances. 2420 01:22:26,353 --> 01:22:27,321 They also assist people 2421 01:22:27,321 --> 01:22:27,654 requesting fingerprints for job 2422 01:22:27,654 --> 01:22:27,721 applications 2423 01:22:27,721 --> 01:22:29,721 . 2424 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:31,991 We also conduct background 2425 01:22:31,991 --> 01:22:32,159 checks for citizens applying 2426 01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:32,859 for 2427 01:22:32,859 --> 01:22:34,859 concealed weapons. 2428 01:22:36,430 --> 01:22:37,364 In fy 2429 01:22:37,364 --> 01:22:38,131 25 we conducted 6002 at a 24 2430 01:22:38,131 --> 01:22:38,198 background checks 2431 01:22:38,198 --> 01:22:40,198 . 2432 01:22:40,434 --> 01:22:42,836 The background checks done to 2433 01:22:42,836 --> 01:22:45,472 assist the clerk of the court 2434 01:22:45,472 --> 01:22:45,973 issuing concealed weapons 2435 01:22:45,973 --> 01:22:47,973 permits 2436 01:22:55,615 --> 01:22:56,617 . 2437 01:22:56,617 --> 01:22:57,985 Our operations division and 2438 01:22:57,985 --> 01:22:58,510 some of our core functions 2439 01:22:58,510 --> 01:23:00,510 . 2440 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:06,360 Civil process deputies are very 2441 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,260 busy. 2442 01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:07,927 Deputies assigned to our civil 2443 01:23:07,927 --> 01:23:08,895 process of legal documents 2444 01:23:08,895 --> 01:23:09,762 within prince william county 2445 01:23:09,762 --> 01:23:13,362 and the city of manassas and 2446 01:23:13,834 --> 01:23:14,835 manassas park. 2447 01:23:14,835 --> 01:23:18,605 Most we serve are posted on the 2448 01:23:18,605 --> 01:23:19,639 property, but some require 2449 01:23:19,639 --> 01:23:22,409 personal service and are often 2450 01:23:22,409 --> 01:23:23,110 times consuming. 2451 01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:26,110 There are several documents we 2452 01:23:26,580 --> 01:23:28,980 serve the required two 2453 01:23:29,149 --> 01:23:30,517 deputies. 2454 01:23:30,517 --> 01:23:32,917 In fy 25 we serve 73,522 2455 01:23:35,588 --> 01:23:37,588 . 2456 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:39,859 To the document are 2457 01:23:39,859 --> 01:23:41,859 convictions. 2458 01:23:43,930 --> 01:23:46,266 To complete the execution of an 2459 01:23:46,266 --> 01:23:48,666 eviction requires at least 2460 01:23:51,304 --> 01:23:52,380 three visits to the residence 2461 01:23:52,380 --> 01:23:53,640 even though we get one document 2462 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:54,241 that is going to require 2463 01:23:54,241 --> 01:23:56,641 several visits to that 2464 01:23:58,178 --> 01:24:01,178 residence for can fy 25 we 2465 01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:07,420 executed 3091 evictions with 2466 01:24:07,420 --> 01:24:07,721 four deputies. 2467 01:24:07,721 --> 01:24:08,488 Most deputies I 2468 01:24:08,488 --> 01:24:09,122 have on my eviction squad. 2469 01:24:09,122 --> 01:24:11,522 We also executed 172 letters 2470 01:24:14,894 --> 01:24:15,195 and conducted for sheriff 2471 01:24:15,195 --> 01:24:16,162 sales. 2472 01:24:16,162 --> 01:24:16,763 Also in fy 25 to assist the 2473 01:24:16,763 --> 01:24:19,163 eviction squad because they 2474 01:24:21,670 --> 01:24:21,701 need assistance to get their 2475 01:24:21,701 --> 01:24:24,701 work done, the civil process 2476 01:25:04,243 --> 01:25:07,460 deputy served 512 if they are 2477 01:25:07,460 --> 01:25:09,460 in the area. 2478 01:25:13,153 --> 01:25:13,787 Sometimes we are in areas where 2479 01:25:13,787 --> 01:25:14,654 there is no police presence and 2480 01:25:14,654 --> 01:25:15,154 when car comes out the deputy 2481 01:25:15,154 --> 01:25:15,454 would assist the police 2482 01:25:15,454 --> 01:25:17,454 department. 2483 01:25:19,526 --> 01:25:22,526 Sometimes the deputies are the 2484 01:25:25,310 --> 01:25:25,866 first ones on the scene. 2485 01:25:25,866 --> 01:25:26,566 Funeral escorts are mandated. 2486 01:25:26,566 --> 01:25:29,566 It is not a mandated 2487 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:32,672 responsibility. 2488 01:25:32,672 --> 01:25:34,508 you sheriff it is absolutely 2489 01:25:34,508 --> 01:25:36,908 necessary to provide the 2490 01:25:38,511 --> 01:25:39,145 service to our community. 2491 01:25:39,145 --> 01:25:42,745 We get a lotta nice letters 2492 01:25:46,453 --> 01:25:47,387 from the citizens about how. 2493 01:25:47,387 --> 01:25:49,255 I especially like the letters 2494 01:25:49,255 --> 01:25:49,889 who come from people who visit 2495 01:25:49,889 --> 01:25:52,158 our community are here from a 2496 01:25:52,158 --> 01:25:52,892 funeral and see how we provide 2497 01:25:52,892 --> 01:25:55,892 this service for our community. 2498 01:25:58,264 --> 01:26:01,264 In fy 25 this section performs 2499 01:26:02,535 --> 01:26:03,269 333 funeral escorts. 2500 01:26:03,269 --> 01:26:05,669 Providing funeral escorts sends 2501 01:26:06,206 --> 01:26:09,806 a message to our community and 2502 01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:11,310 businesses about who we are and 2503 01:26:11,310 --> 01:26:14,910 as an agency in prince william 2504 01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:17,884 county in the city of manassas 2505 01:26:17,884 --> 01:26:18,484 and manassas park. 2506 01:26:18,484 --> 01:26:19,386 When discussing earlier there 2507 01:26:19,386 --> 01:26:19,952 is a minute deputies from other 2508 01:26:19,952 --> 01:26:21,952 duties 2509 01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:24,220 , the difference we 2510 01:26:24,624 --> 01:26:24,690 normally pole to assist us 2511 01:26:24,690 --> 01:26:26,690 , 2512 01:26:26,793 --> 01:26:29,793 they are our civil process 2513 01:26:32,465 --> 01:26:33,132 deputies. 2514 01:26:33,132 --> 01:26:35,532 Transportation to and from 2515 01:26:35,768 --> 01:26:38,168 criminal justice facilities is 2516 01:26:39,500 --> 01:26:41,405 a challenging daily process, 2517 01:26:42,475 --> 01:26:43,175 mainly because of the distance 2518 01:26:43,175 --> 01:26:46,175 to other jails and facilities 2519 01:26:47,313 --> 01:26:47,980 in the state. 2520 01:26:47,980 --> 01:26:48,614 Next we have temporary 2521 01:26:48,614 --> 01:26:50,614 detention orders. 2522 01:26:52,418 --> 01:26:53,419 By virginia code, all persons 2523 01:26:53,419 --> 01:26:55,819 committed to facilities for 2524 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:01,360 treatment are transported by 2525 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,261 primary law 2526 01:27:02,261 --> 01:27:03,620 enforcement agencies 2527 01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:03,996 in that jurisdiction for prince 2528 01:27:03,996 --> 01:27:04,931 william county it is all our 2529 01:27:04,931 --> 01:27:06,931 police department. 2530 01:27:07,660 --> 01:27:07,733 Before the law changed about 10 2531 01:27:07,733 --> 01:27:10,736 years ago it was the sheriff's 2532 01:27:10,736 --> 01:27:11,403 office responsibility. 2533 01:27:11,403 --> 01:27:14,807 If the person is in crisis, is 2534 01:27:14,807 --> 01:27:15,808 a juvenile and eight number 2535 01:27:15,808 --> 01:27:18,808 eight detention order is issued 2536 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,810 in the juvenile is medically 2537 01:27:22,810 --> 01:27:23,820 cleared for transport, it is 2538 01:27:23,820 --> 01:27:24,583 the police departments 2539 01:27:24,583 --> 01:27:25,840 responsibility to transport the 2540 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:26,118 person in crisis. 2541 01:27:26,118 --> 01:27:30,155 By state law, the petition is a 2542 01:27:30,155 --> 01:27:32,258 subpoena notifying the parent 2543 01:27:32,258 --> 01:27:32,758 or guardian of the hearing date 2544 01:27:32,758 --> 01:27:34,758 and time location. 2545 01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:39,620 This petition can only be 2546 01:27:42,501 --> 01:27:43,536 served by a deputy sheriff. 2547 01:27:43,536 --> 01:27:44,170 Regardless of when this occurs, 2548 01:27:44,170 --> 01:27:47,170 the sheriff's office agrees to 2549 01:27:51,443 --> 01:27:52,512 do all juvenile transport for 2550 01:27:52,512 --> 01:27:53,378 our police department is office 2551 01:27:53,378 --> 01:27:55,778 assists the police department 2552 01:27:58,350 --> 01:27:59,118 transporting persons in crisis. 2553 01:27:59,118 --> 01:27:59,919 The other times during the week 2554 01:27:59,919 --> 01:28:00,852 my office agreed to do to 2555 01:28:00,852 --> 01:28:03,252 career eat detention order 2556 01:28:04,890 --> 01:28:05,891 transports. 2557 01:28:05,891 --> 01:28:07,626 Our agency agreed help because 2558 01:28:07,626 --> 01:28:08,628 I know our police department 2559 01:28:08,628 --> 01:28:12,698 are busy and when you have a 2560 01:28:12,698 --> 01:28:13,732 transport such as a person in 2561 01:28:13,732 --> 01:28:17,332 crisis it takes to officers to 2562 01:28:17,803 --> 01:28:18,804 do the transports. 2563 01:28:18,804 --> 01:28:19,806 So we assist them to keep the 2564 01:28:19,806 --> 01:28:21,607 officers on the street and I 2565 01:28:21,607 --> 01:28:22,507 have deputy sheriffs on call so 2566 01:28:22,507 --> 01:28:25,143 we can do the transport for our 2567 01:28:25,143 --> 01:28:27,143 police department. 2568 01:28:29,115 --> 01:28:29,815 In fy 25 this section a civil 2569 01:28:29,815 --> 01:28:30,249 transport totaled 4107 hours 2570 01:28:30,249 --> 01:28:32,249 spent. 2571 01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:36,421 In fy 25 we assisted the police 2572 01:28:36,421 --> 01:28:37,589 department during civil 2573 01:28:37,589 --> 01:28:39,589 transports totaling 3599. 2574 01:28:41,393 --> 01:28:42,294 Starting this fiscal year the 2575 01:28:42,294 --> 01:28:44,196 courts are now sending court 2576 01:28:44,196 --> 01:28:47,196 orders to our offices to 2577 01:28:55,574 --> 01:28:55,941 transport -- in prince within 2578 01:28:55,941 --> 01:28:57,941 county. 2579 01:28:59,378 --> 01:29:00,278 These transports are statewide 2580 01:29:00,278 --> 01:29:01,146 and require at least two 2581 01:29:01,146 --> 01:29:02,815 deputies to perform the 2582 01:29:02,815 --> 01:29:04,815 transports. 2583 01:29:06,284 --> 01:29:10,484 So far we have done 47 of these 2584 01:29:17,896 --> 01:29:18,931 transports this fiscal year. 2585 01:29:18,931 --> 01:29:19,498 By mandate the sheriff's office 2586 01:29:19,498 --> 01:29:20,399 is responsible for post 2587 01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:21,967 commitment hearing transports 2588 01:29:21,967 --> 01:29:22,601 to include transports to mental 2589 01:29:22,601 --> 01:29:25,100 hospitals in the commonwealth. 2590 01:29:27,673 --> 01:29:28,674 Please keep in mind for 2591 01:29:28,674 --> 01:29:31,740 cautionary reasons and safety 2592 01:29:33,679 --> 01:29:34,246 reasons, each transport 2593 01:29:34,246 --> 01:29:35,213 requires two deputies. 2594 01:29:35,213 --> 01:29:37,613 80 percent of our transports 2595 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:40,752 are done with two deputies. 2596 01:29:40,752 --> 01:29:43,752 I do not feel comfortable 2597 01:29:46,580 --> 01:29:46,959 sending one deputy on a 2598 01:29:46,959 --> 01:29:48,600 transport by themselves who 2599 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:49,270 deputies frequently travel to 2600 01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:51,427 facilities all across the 2601 01:29:55,266 --> 01:29:56,235 commonwealth of virginia. 2602 01:29:56,235 --> 01:29:56,969 Depending on what time they 2603 01:29:56,969 --> 01:29:58,269 leave prince william county and 2604 01:29:58,269 --> 01:29:59,305 distance traveled, they often 2605 01:29:59,305 --> 01:30:02,305 stay overnight and return the 2606 01:30:02,841 --> 01:30:03,809 following day which means they 2607 01:30:03,809 --> 01:30:04,576 are not available for duty the 2608 01:30:04,576 --> 01:30:06,576 next day 2609 01:30:07,579 --> 01:30:09,579 . 2610 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,427 Warrants the warrant section 2611 01:30:22,427 --> 01:30:23,228 handles all support imposed 2612 01:30:23,228 --> 01:30:24,429 eviction warrants who can fy 25 2613 01:30:24,429 --> 01:30:25,970 the warrant section serves 773 2614 01:30:25,970 --> 01:30:25,697 warrants. 2615 01:30:25,697 --> 01:30:26,632 We work very closely with the 2616 01:30:26,632 --> 01:30:27,432 adult probation office to 2617 01:30:27,432 --> 01:30:27,733 apprehend and serve probation 2618 01:30:27,733 --> 01:30:29,733 violations. 2619 01:30:30,769 --> 01:30:31,837 We serve court order violations 2620 01:30:31,837 --> 01:30:32,337 and failure to appear in court 2621 01:30:32,337 --> 01:30:34,337 violations as well. 2622 01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:35,541 Court 2623 01:30:35,541 --> 01:30:37,941 order executions are very 2624 01:30:38,810 --> 01:30:39,777 powerful report example, a 2625 01:30:39,777 --> 01:30:42,777 child removal order requires a 2626 01:30:44,749 --> 01:30:45,383 minimum of four deputies to 2627 01:30:45,383 --> 01:30:46,752 transfer the child to the 2628 01:30:46,752 --> 01:30:48,887 custody of the other parent or 2629 01:30:48,887 --> 01:30:50,887 guardian. 2630 01:30:53,759 --> 01:30:54,626 Those situations can be 2631 01:30:54,626 --> 01:30:56,626 emotional, time-consuming and 2632 01:31:03,101 --> 01:31:03,568 it requires good communication 2633 01:31:03,568 --> 01:31:04,569 skills and patient. 2634 01:31:04,569 --> 01:31:05,570 Dditionally the section is 2635 01:31:05,570 --> 01:31:06,710 responsible for out-of-state x 2636 01:31:06,710 --> 01:31:06,738 traditions. 2637 01:31:06,738 --> 01:31:08,390 If the extradition involves 2638 01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:08,807 flying 2639 01:31:08,807 --> 01:31:10,409 , deputies are required 2640 01:31:10,409 --> 01:31:14,900 to be trained and certified to 2641 01:31:16,682 --> 01:31:17,716 fly while owned. 2642 01:31:17,716 --> 01:31:19,718 Are deputies ensure the average 2643 01:31:19,718 --> 01:31:19,784 of 30 traffic and one is 2644 01:31:19,784 --> 01:31:21,784 . 2645 01:31:23,540 --> 01:31:27,254 In other words, we are on the 2646 01:31:28,860 --> 01:31:29,828 street a law and we see people 2647 01:31:29,828 --> 01:31:30,829 violating the law speeding my 2648 01:31:30,829 --> 01:31:32,829 deputies occasionally will 2649 01:31:33,998 --> 01:31:36,398 write a speeding summons 2650 01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:45,410 . 2651 01:31:47,446 --> 01:31:48,380 Our administration division and 2652 01:31:48,380 --> 01:31:50,780 core functions of our 2653 01:31:52,350 --> 01:31:54,350 administration division. 2654 01:31:56,454 --> 01:31:57,422 Our human resources division is 2655 01:31:57,422 --> 01:31:59,822 responsible for recruitment and 2656 01:32:05,296 --> 01:32:06,297 our application processing. 2657 01:32:06,297 --> 01:32:07,298 Training all deputies on law 2658 01:32:07,298 --> 01:32:10,101 enforcement is a certified and 2659 01:32:10,101 --> 01:32:12,501 trained with law enforcement 2660 01:32:13,638 --> 01:32:14,372 certification., deputies are 2661 01:32:14,372 --> 01:32:15,206 also certified in civil process 2662 01:32:15,206 --> 01:32:17,206 and courtroom security. 2663 01:32:19,277 --> 01:32:20,178 Some 2664 01:32:20,178 --> 01:32:20,912 deputies our jails are defined 2665 01:32:20,912 --> 01:32:22,912 to maintain certification. 2666 01:32:23,548 --> 01:32:26,548 Our deputies also mandated to 2667 01:32:27,419 --> 01:32:29,819 attend 40 hours of in-service 2668 01:32:31,890 --> 01:32:32,757 training every two years. 2669 01:32:32,757 --> 01:32:33,758 We have several other training 2670 01:32:33,758 --> 01:32:36,158 requirements that exceed an 2671 01:32:39,864 --> 01:32:39,998 additional 80 hours 2672 01:32:39,998 --> 01:32:40,965 . 2673 01:32:40,965 --> 01:32:41,933 We have two deputies 2674 01:32:41,933 --> 01:32:44,333 permanently assigned to the 2675 01:32:44,936 --> 01:32:45,903 criminal justice academy. 2676 01:32:45,903 --> 01:32:47,772 Accreditation, we were the 2677 01:32:47,772 --> 01:32:50,172 first agency in the 2678 01:32:50,808 --> 01:32:53,208 commonwealth to be accredited 2679 01:32:55,713 --> 01:32:56,648 through the virginia law 2680 01:32:56,648 --> 01:32:58,282 enforcement professional 2681 01:32:58,282 --> 01:33:00,282 standards commission. 2682 01:33:02,621 --> 01:33:03,621 We just completed our seventh 2683 01:33:03,621 --> 01:33:04,122 accreditation assessment and 2684 01:33:04,122 --> 01:33:06,122 should receive our 2685 01:33:08,659 --> 01:33:08,927 certification certificate in 2686 01:33:08,927 --> 01:33:09,861 DECEMBER. 2687 01:33:09,861 --> 01:33:12,861 This section also handles all 2688 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,412 of our internal affairs. 2689 01:33:34,218 --> 01:33:37,218 As of today -- okay. 2690 01:33:38,890 --> 01:33:38,956 Community services 2691 01:33:38,956 --> 01:33:40,658 . 2692 01:33:40,658 --> 01:33:41,959 Let me back up. 2693 01:33:41,959 --> 01:33:43,959 Our community services 2694 01:33:44,529 --> 01:33:45,163 . 2695 01:33:45,163 --> 01:33:45,729 We start with project 2696 01:33:45,729 --> 01:33:47,729 lifesaver. 2697 01:33:53,710 --> 01:33:54,105 We placed bracelets on seniors 2698 01:33:54,105 --> 01:33:55,500 with alzheimer's and autistic 2699 01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:55,273 children who tend to wander or 2700 01:33:55,273 --> 01:33:57,273 run away. 2701 01:33:58,109 --> 01:33:59,143 The bracelets emits a signal on 2702 01:33:59,143 --> 01:34:03,147 a frequency and it allows us to 2703 01:34:03,147 --> 01:34:05,547 locate a missing client. 2704 01:34:07,518 --> 01:34:08,552 Revisit our clients to ensure 2705 01:34:08,552 --> 01:34:09,353 the bracelet is properly in 2706 01:34:09,353 --> 01:34:12,256 place and to change the 2707 01:34:12,256 --> 01:34:13,925 batteries. 2708 01:34:13,925 --> 01:34:18,125 Most of our clients refer to us 2709 01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:22,320 because the police department 2710 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:22,900 as properly responded to the 2711 01:34:22,900 --> 01:34:23,534 residence because a person is 2712 01:34:23,534 --> 01:34:26,304 lost or walked away and the 2713 01:34:26,304 --> 01:34:29,139 referred most people to apply 2714 01:34:29,139 --> 01:34:30,700 for applications for us to come 2715 01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:30,475 out and put them on the project 2716 01:34:30,475 --> 01:34:32,475 lifesaver. 2717 01:34:36,747 --> 01:34:37,281 We use our tracking equipment 2718 01:34:37,281 --> 01:34:38,249 to locate missing clients. 2719 01:34:38,249 --> 01:34:38,883 All police station time 2720 01:34:38,883 --> 01:34:39,683 tracking equipment that can be 2721 01:34:39,683 --> 01:34:40,885 utilized by the sheriff's 2722 01:34:40,885 --> 01:34:43,285 office personnel or respondent 2723 01:34:45,589 --> 01:34:46,891 in 2022 we had 33 are lifesaver 2724 01:34:46,891 --> 01:34:48,891 program. 2725 01:34:50,161 --> 01:34:52,161 Currently we 54 clients. 2726 01:34:57,735 --> 01:34:58,469 28 adults, 26 children in the 2727 01:34:58,469 --> 01:34:59,503 program for gaza today we have 2728 01:34:59,503 --> 01:35:01,503 15 pending applications 2729 01:35:03,907 --> 01:35:04,809 , and I 2730 01:35:04,809 --> 01:35:05,409 do not want to say no to any 2731 01:35:05,409 --> 01:35:09,900 family who wants to put a 2732 01:35:12,883 --> 01:35:13,551 family member on project 2733 01:35:13,551 --> 01:35:14,185 lifesaver. 2734 01:35:14,185 --> 01:35:14,818 Unlike some jurisdictions we do 2735 01:35:14,818 --> 01:35:15,386 not charge a fee for families 2736 01:35:15,386 --> 01:35:18,386 to be on the program. 2737 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:20,491 Also, I have a senior program. 2738 01:35:20,491 --> 01:35:22,891 restarted the safe program 2739 01:35:24,695 --> 01:35:27,695 about eight years ago because 2740 01:35:27,865 --> 01:35:28,499 we learned of a senior that 2741 01:35:28,499 --> 01:35:32,990 failed and it was a tragic 2742 01:35:33,938 --> 01:35:34,938 ending and we thought that we 2743 01:35:34,938 --> 01:35:35,172 could do something to help our 2744 01:35:35,172 --> 01:35:36,373 seniors. 2745 01:35:36,373 --> 01:35:37,441 We provide medical equipment to 2746 01:35:37,441 --> 01:35:39,420 seniors who cannot afford it at 2747 01:35:39,420 --> 01:35:41,420 no cost. 2748 01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:04,980 In 2022 -- for our community. 2749 01:36:04,134 --> 01:36:07,734 I get some good comments from 2750 01:36:09,273 --> 01:36:10,207 our seniors because they get a 2751 01:36:10,207 --> 01:36:11,410 joy out in the deputies coming 2752 01:36:11,410 --> 01:36:11,442 to the house spending time with 2753 01:36:11,442 --> 01:36:13,442 them 2754 01:36:14,244 --> 01:36:16,644 , talking to them about 2755 01:36:18,281 --> 01:36:18,949 security issues but it makes a 2756 01:36:18,949 --> 01:36:21,349 difference with our seniors. 2757 01:36:22,853 --> 01:36:23,530 Argon safety program 2758 01:36:23,530 --> 01:36:23,920 , argon 2759 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,320 safety program is properly 2760 01:36:28,158 --> 01:36:29,125 programmed for children. 2761 01:36:29,125 --> 01:36:31,828 In fy 20 find this program is 2762 01:36:31,828 --> 01:36:31,996 presented to over 5000 students 2763 01:36:31,996 --> 01:36:33,996 . 2764 01:36:35,666 --> 01:36:37,330 In 2023 this program receive 2765 01:36:37,330 --> 01:36:38,201 the virginia association of 2766 01:36:38,201 --> 01:36:39,336 counties achievement award 2767 01:36:39,336 --> 01:36:41,336 . 2768 01:36:44,675 --> 01:36:45,543 Our rate aggression and defense 2769 01:36:45,543 --> 01:36:46,210 program are currently we 2770 01:36:46,210 --> 01:36:49,210 conduct about two classes a 2771 01:36:49,246 --> 01:36:49,913 year. 2772 01:36:49,913 --> 01:36:52,313 It's difficult to schedule 2773 01:36:56,219 --> 01:36:57,154 these classes, but I want to 2774 01:36:57,154 --> 01:36:58,589 see if we can do at least two 2775 01:36:58,589 --> 01:37:00,589 classes next year. 2776 01:37:10,266 --> 01:37:11,268 Unclaimed residents here come 2777 01:37:11,268 --> 01:37:12,102 the only agency in the county 2778 01:37:12,102 --> 01:37:12,369 that handles unclaimed 2779 01:37:12,369 --> 01:37:13,269 residence. 2780 01:37:13,269 --> 01:37:14,104 The primary law enforcement 2781 01:37:14,104 --> 01:37:14,372 agency is responsible for 2782 01:37:14,372 --> 01:37:15,138 residence. 2783 01:37:15,138 --> 01:37:16,106 It was the sheriffs 2784 01:37:16,106 --> 01:37:18,506 responsibility until the law 2785 01:37:19,309 --> 01:37:20,311 changed about 11 years ago. 2786 01:37:20,311 --> 01:37:24,511 Because I had a policy in place 2787 01:37:25,348 --> 01:37:26,250 to comply with the law, I agree 2788 01:37:26,250 --> 01:37:26,950 because I represent not only 2789 01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:27,785 prince william county but 2790 01:37:27,785 --> 01:37:30,785 manassas and manassas park to 2791 01:37:31,922 --> 01:37:32,822 continue this responsibility. 2792 01:37:32,822 --> 01:37:34,892 In fy 25 we received about 26 2793 01:37:34,892 --> 01:37:35,559 cases. 2794 01:37:35,559 --> 01:37:37,461 Each case requires about 20 2795 01:37:37,461 --> 01:37:39,262 hours of work. 2796 01:37:39,262 --> 01:37:41,662 Those are include locating 2797 01:37:42,699 --> 01:37:45,335 relatives working with -- and 2798 01:37:45,335 --> 01:37:47,404 to obtain a court order to 2799 01:37:47,404 --> 01:37:49,804 close out the case. 2800 01:37:51,708 --> 01:37:52,709 We also conduct a yearly 2801 01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:56,309 ceremony to honor and provide a 2802 01:37:56,547 --> 01:37:58,947 dignified burial for our 2803 01:38:01,284 --> 01:38:03,284 unclaimed deceased residents 2804 01:38:04,220 --> 01:38:06,220 . 2805 01:38:06,724 --> 01:38:09,124 Our civil disturbance union. 2806 01:38:11,562 --> 01:38:12,128 In 2020 200 demonstrators 2807 01:38:12,128 --> 01:38:14,528 attempted to enter the 2808 01:38:15,731 --> 01:38:18,731 courthouse and we persuaded the 2809 01:38:19,369 --> 01:38:21,938 crowd to leave and prevented 2810 01:38:21,938 --> 01:38:22,672 any confrontation. 2811 01:38:22,672 --> 01:38:23,206 I think some your board members 2812 01:38:23,206 --> 01:38:24,474 might have been there 2813 01:38:24,474 --> 01:38:26,474 that day. 2814 01:38:28,645 --> 01:38:32,845 I am very proud of how officers 2815 01:38:34,250 --> 01:38:34,450 reacted to our demonstrators 2816 01:38:34,450 --> 01:38:35,419 . 2817 01:38:35,419 --> 01:38:36,419 When we talk about treating 2818 01:38:36,419 --> 01:38:36,953 people with dignity and 2819 01:38:36,953 --> 01:38:38,755 respect, this is a prime 2820 01:38:38,755 --> 01:38:42,355 example of how we should treat 2821 01:38:45,195 --> 01:38:46,196 people in those situations. 2822 01:38:46,196 --> 01:38:46,896 We were not prepared to handle 2823 01:38:46,896 --> 01:38:48,565 a group of that size so to 2824 01:38:48,565 --> 01:38:49,566 prevent future issues I sent 2825 01:38:49,566 --> 01:38:51,734 staff to training and purchased 2826 01:38:51,734 --> 01:38:54,134 equipment to manage any 2827 01:38:55,939 --> 01:38:56,572 disturbances that MAY occur. 2828 01:38:56,572 --> 01:39:01,100 I would be remiss if I did not 2829 01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:01,645 mention the incredible work on 2830 01:39:01,645 --> 01:39:03,813 deputies do to support special 2831 01:39:03,813 --> 01:39:04,881 olympics. 2832 01:39:04,881 --> 01:39:08,481 Each year we hold a tournament. 2833 01:39:10,553 --> 01:39:11,321 We raise 50 $6000 to support 2834 01:39:11,321 --> 01:39:13,321 special olympics. 2835 01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:17,260 We hosted two golf tournaments. 2836 01:39:17,260 --> 01:39:19,229 We used those funds to buy a 2837 01:39:19,229 --> 01:39:21,629 drone and other equipment 2838 01:39:32,542 --> 01:39:33,143 needed for the program. 2839 01:39:33,143 --> 01:39:33,844 This is an agency basis. 2840 01:39:33,844 --> 01:39:35,844 Bensalem county revenues 2841 01:39:45,455 --> 01:39:46,456 include charges for service. 2842 01:39:46,456 --> 01:39:47,560 Charges for service are three 2843 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:47,657 percent of our funding so we 2844 01:39:47,657 --> 01:39:48,491 can see how much we get from 2845 01:39:48,491 --> 01:39:49,359 the compensation board. 2846 01:39:49,359 --> 01:39:50,293 The 2847 01:39:50,293 --> 01:39:51,270 city of manassas, manassas 2848 01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:53,270 park. 2849 01:39:55,932 --> 01:39:57,634 Currently our full-time staff 2850 01:39:57,634 --> 01:39:57,700 99 part-time sworn, 5.5 2851 01:39:57,700 --> 01:39:59,700 . 2852 01:40:00,836 --> 01:40:02,836 We have 17 2853 01:40:07,643 --> 01:40:08,278 , 121.5 total. 2854 01:40:08,278 --> 01:40:11,278 Also, we have seven reserve 2855 01:40:13,416 --> 01:40:13,582 deputies that come in to assist 2856 01:40:13,582 --> 01:40:14,484 us. 2857 01:40:14,484 --> 01:40:18,684 We require them to come in once 2858 01:40:19,789 --> 01:40:20,790 a month. 2859 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:21,824 I think CHAIRMAN Vega is on our 2860 01:40:21,824 --> 01:40:22,992 reserve deputies that comes in 2861 01:40:22,992 --> 01:40:24,992 hopes of sometimes. 2862 01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:41,100 Thank you. 2863 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:41,544 Requesting $15,000 no fte to 2864 01:40:41,544 --> 01:40:43,944 assist us with additional 2865 01:40:45,281 --> 01:40:47,681 equipment to support project 2866 01:40:52,488 --> 01:40:53,489 lifesaving. 2867 01:40:53,489 --> 01:40:54,157 We 15 people applications and 2868 01:40:54,157 --> 01:40:55,580 waiting to be processed. 2869 01:40:55,580 --> 01:40:59,258 I have been wanting to say no 2870 01:41:03,566 --> 01:41:04,500 to any of these clients -- in 2871 01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:07,500 case something happens we can 2872 01:41:08,704 --> 01:41:09,672 find it. 2873 01:41:09,672 --> 01:41:11,474 We also will be asking uniform 2874 01:41:11,474 --> 01:41:13,474 stuffer 12 fte. 2875 01:41:15,578 --> 01:41:16,479 We also asked for a leading 2876 01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,879 business service specialist in 2877 01:41:29,158 --> 01:41:29,792 our communications analysts. 2878 01:41:29,792 --> 01:41:30,659 I talked about some of them 2879 01:41:30,659 --> 01:41:32,328 earlier in the transportation 2880 01:41:32,328 --> 01:41:34,830 and court services division to 2881 01:41:34,830 --> 01:41:37,830 address inmate jury and chris's 2882 01:41:38,968 --> 01:41:39,569 transportation. 2883 01:41:39,569 --> 01:41:40,503 We certainly need extra 2884 01:41:40,503 --> 01:41:40,870 deputies to help us in 2885 01:41:40,870 --> 01:41:42,171 transportation 2886 01:41:42,171 --> 01:41:44,171 . 2887 01:41:48,977 --> 01:41:49,646 Course one of the big issues is 2888 01:41:49,646 --> 01:41:50,479 i do not want to san juan 2889 01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,790 deputy on a transport with a 2890 01:42:04,793 --> 01:42:05,794 person that is in crisis. 2891 01:42:05,794 --> 01:42:06,796 Uniform stop operation impacts. 2892 01:42:06,796 --> 01:42:08,796 Deputies are frequently 2893 01:42:10,132 --> 01:42:11,100 reassigned from other essential 2894 01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:12,680 duties are going to mention 2895 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,470 pulling people from the civil 2896 01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:18,700 process to come here and help 2897 01:42:18,274 --> 01:42:18,507 us in our courtrooms 2898 01:42:18,507 --> 01:42:20,507 , that's 2899 01:42:23,546 --> 01:42:24,447 because we have a law and 2900 01:42:24,447 --> 01:42:25,448 trials that require more than 2901 01:42:25,448 --> 01:42:26,810 two deputies in the courtroom. 2902 01:42:26,810 --> 01:42:27,350 To get additional help optical 2903 01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:29,418 from other areas to come into 2904 01:42:29,418 --> 01:42:31,418 assist that. 2905 01:42:35,457 --> 01:42:36,392 Also we had to pull from the 2906 01:42:36,392 --> 01:42:39,392 adult detention center to use 2907 01:42:46,802 --> 01:42:47,803 those off-duty to assist us. 2908 01:42:47,803 --> 01:42:48,504 Deputies often juggle multiple 2909 01:42:48,504 --> 01:42:49,138 high-risk duties increasing 2910 01:42:49,138 --> 01:42:49,905 fatigue and safety. 2911 01:42:49,905 --> 01:42:50,806 When I mentioned deputies have 2912 01:42:50,806 --> 01:42:51,840 to travel long distance other 2913 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:52,475 facilities to do the transport, 2914 01:42:52,475 --> 01:42:53,409 a lot of times they are tired 2915 01:42:53,409 --> 01:42:54,910 when they get back and we can't 2916 01:42:54,910 --> 01:42:59,615 use them so it has an impact on 2917 01:42:59,615 --> 01:43:00,282 our staffing. 2918 01:43:00,282 --> 01:43:01,183 Also, when I talked about the 2919 01:43:01,183 --> 01:43:03,850 hours a mandated training we 2920 01:43:03,850 --> 01:43:04,530 are required to do with 40 2921 01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:06,755 hours mandated but we have 2922 01:43:06,755 --> 01:43:08,891 other hours a training 2923 01:43:08,891 --> 01:43:10,259 required. 2924 01:43:10,259 --> 01:43:13,859 For example, each deputy has to 2925 01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:18,330 be trained and be certified in 2926 01:43:39,287 --> 01:43:40,289 case they have to use it. 2927 01:43:40,289 --> 01:43:42,625 Some of the operational 2928 01:43:42,625 --> 01:43:42,891 benefits increased case 2929 01:43:42,891 --> 01:43:43,659 faulting. 2930 01:43:43,659 --> 01:43:47,859 We look at a number of cases 2931 01:43:49,965 --> 01:43:50,131 have a court 2932 01:43:50,131 --> 01:43:51,100 . 2933 01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:51,333 We talked about the legislative 2934 01:43:51,333 --> 01:43:52,100 change. 2935 01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:54,360 One of the legislative changes 2936 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,436 was in juvenile court 2937 01:43:57,605 --> 01:43:59,605 . 2938 01:44:01,543 --> 01:44:02,110 that legislative change 2939 01:44:02,110 --> 01:44:05,110 requires us to have one 2940 01:44:07,115 --> 01:44:08,116 deputies because as I mentioned 2941 01:44:08,116 --> 01:44:08,784 earlier the unpredictable 2942 01:44:08,784 --> 01:44:09,618 actions of juvenile sometimes 2943 01:44:09,618 --> 01:44:11,153 they have to make sure the 2944 01:44:11,153 --> 01:44:13,153 deputies on site. 2945 01:44:15,757 --> 01:44:16,458 We had injuries restrained 2946 01:44:16,458 --> 01:44:19,962 juveniles in our court so to 2947 01:44:19,962 --> 01:44:20,962 prevent those things we need 2948 01:44:20,962 --> 01:44:23,531 extra deputies in our juvenile 2949 01:44:23,531 --> 01:44:24,266 courts. 2950 01:44:24,266 --> 01:44:25,167 Also mentioned in the hallways 2951 01:44:25,167 --> 01:44:27,769 a lotta people they are in 2952 01:44:27,769 --> 01:44:30,769 juvenile court they simply do 2953 01:44:34,510 --> 01:44:35,143 not like each other and threats 2954 01:44:35,143 --> 01:44:36,745 are made and we are asked to 2955 01:44:36,745 --> 01:44:36,812 come in 2956 01:44:36,812 --> 01:44:38,812 . 2957 01:44:40,549 --> 01:44:41,116 Certainly we have to do that to 2958 01:44:41,116 --> 01:44:43,516 protect everyone in the 2959 01:44:46,788 --> 01:44:47,422 courthouse. 2960 01:44:47,422 --> 01:44:48,290 Also high-profile trials 2961 01:44:48,290 --> 01:44:48,957 require greater security. 2962 01:44:48,957 --> 01:44:51,957 Sometimes we have to double 2963 01:44:55,797 --> 01:44:56,831 screen people going in to make 2964 01:44:56,831 --> 01:44:57,800 sure everyone is safe and make 2965 01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:58,767 sure no one is carrying devices 2966 01:44:58,767 --> 01:44:59,367 that could interfere with court 2967 01:44:59,367 --> 01:45:00,569 proceedings. 2968 01:45:00,569 --> 01:45:02,969 That requires extra deputies 2969 01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:22,624 . 2970 01:45:22,624 --> 01:45:24,292 I want to make sure. 2971 01:45:24,292 --> 01:45:24,359 Me back this one up 2972 01:45:24,359 --> 01:45:26,359 . 2973 01:45:27,562 --> 01:45:28,296 Improve courtroom security 2974 01:45:28,296 --> 01:45:30,696 enables transport for increase 2975 01:45:32,834 --> 01:45:33,801 deputy safety is something I 2976 01:45:33,801 --> 01:45:34,369 want to focus on to make sure 2977 01:45:34,369 --> 01:45:36,769 the board understands the 2978 01:45:37,706 --> 01:45:40,106 importance of having two 2979 01:46:04,666 --> 01:46:06,666 deputies owner transports. 2980 01:46:09,838 --> 01:46:12,838 And establish a dedicated -- 2981 01:46:18,780 --> 01:46:19,480 excuse me. 2982 01:46:19,480 --> 01:46:22,480 >> I think we are interfering 2983 01:46:24,850 --> 01:46:27,850 with your progress here, sir. 2984 01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:35,496 >> slide number 18. 2985 01:46:35,496 --> 01:46:37,496 >> thank you. 2986 01:46:38,866 --> 01:46:40,866 Additionally support inventory 2987 01:46:43,370 --> 01:46:43,972 management procurement and 2988 01:46:43,972 --> 01:46:44,972 operations are currently one 2989 01:46:44,972 --> 01:46:47,372 civilian is managing the 2990 01:46:48,576 --> 01:46:49,444 accounts payable those duties 2991 01:46:49,444 --> 01:46:51,444 include purchase orders, 2992 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,481 accounts available, traveler 2993 01:46:53,481 --> 01:46:54,849 funding itineraries, 2994 01:46:54,849 --> 01:46:56,849 expeditions, off-duty detail 2995 01:46:58,285 --> 01:46:58,853 management 2996 01:46:58,853 --> 01:47:00,853 , supply purchases, 2997 01:47:05,693 --> 01:47:06,294 issuing equipment 2998 01:47:06,294 --> 01:47:06,594 , procurement 2999 01:47:06,594 --> 01:47:07,328 allocations. 3000 01:47:07,328 --> 01:47:08,997 In addition we helping 3001 01:47:08,997 --> 01:47:09,997 alleviate the current work load 3002 01:47:09,997 --> 01:47:11,333 to better support the crucial 3003 01:47:11,333 --> 01:47:11,399 functions of our office 3004 01:47:11,399 --> 01:47:13,399 . 3005 01:47:17,538 --> 01:47:21,108 And simply one person has a lot 3006 01:47:21,108 --> 01:47:24,708 to do and basically with work 3007 01:47:25,113 --> 01:47:28,713 and needing in seville and help 3008 01:47:30,618 --> 01:47:31,285 us manage that position. 3009 01:47:31,285 --> 01:47:32,287 Some requesting one civilian 3010 01:47:32,287 --> 01:47:34,856 position to assist in managing 3011 01:47:34,856 --> 01:47:35,423 our request 3012 01:47:35,423 --> 01:47:37,423 , social media, 3013 01:47:44,365 --> 01:47:45,399 graphic designs and it. 3014 01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:47,799 Are service levels performance 3015 01:47:48,402 --> 01:47:49,700 . 3016 01:47:49,700 --> 01:47:52,700 Is easy our cases increased 3017 01:47:57,444 --> 01:47:57,612 from fy 24 from 230 to over 3018 01:47:57,612 --> 01:47:58,346 240. 3019 01:47:58,346 --> 01:48:00,346 Our security screenings 3020 01:48:00,748 --> 01:48:01,349 increased to 305,000. 3021 01:48:01,349 --> 01:48:04,252 Are is in our courtroom 3022 01:48:04,252 --> 01:48:06,652 facility increased to 4 to 3023 01:48:07,988 --> 01:48:08,489 7629. 3024 01:48:08,489 --> 01:48:10,489 Police assist. 3025 01:48:11,159 --> 01:48:12,793 Now, when I'm talking about 3026 01:48:12,793 --> 01:48:16,698 most of the hours we have to 3027 01:48:16,698 --> 01:48:19,901 bring in deputies to assist us 3028 01:48:19,901 --> 01:48:21,735 in the courtroom increased to 3029 01:48:21,735 --> 01:48:21,802 47,000 hours 3030 01:48:21,802 --> 01:48:23,802 . 3031 01:48:27,374 --> 01:48:28,242 Police assist in the hours pick 3032 01:48:28,242 --> 01:48:30,545 these are the hours we spent 3033 01:48:30,545 --> 01:48:32,945 assisting police with our 3034 01:48:33,314 --> 01:48:33,380 temporary detention orders 3035 01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:34,782 . 3036 01:48:34,782 --> 01:48:35,830 And as I mentioned 3037 01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:37,830 , our offices 3038 01:48:40,254 --> 01:48:41,255 want to be committed in the 3039 01:48:41,255 --> 01:48:42,223 assisting our police because we 3040 01:48:42,223 --> 01:48:43,424 know they are busy and we want 3041 01:48:43,424 --> 01:48:47,624 to help them so they don't have 3042 01:48:51,465 --> 01:48:52,466 to leave their duties. 3043 01:48:52,466 --> 01:48:53,101 I want to thank you for 3044 01:48:53,101 --> 01:48:53,300 allowing me to come before you 3045 01:48:53,300 --> 01:48:53,968 today. 3046 01:48:53,968 --> 01:48:54,635 I know it has been a lengthy 3047 01:48:54,635 --> 01:48:57,350 presentation and I apologize 3048 01:48:59,907 --> 01:49:00,407 for it please ask me any 3049 01:49:00,407 --> 01:49:01,576 questions you have. 3050 01:49:01,576 --> 01:49:02,410 >> Chair Jefferson: well, thank 3051 01:49:02,410 --> 01:49:03,110 you so very much for coming 3052 01:49:03,110 --> 01:49:06,380 here and giving us a thorough 3053 01:49:06,380 --> 01:49:07,810 overview of the services and 3054 01:49:07,810 --> 01:49:08,448 everything you provide the. 3055 01:49:08,448 --> 01:49:12,648 I really wanted to focus in on 3056 01:49:13,988 --> 01:49:14,154 something I saw on page 18 and 3057 01:49:14,154 --> 01:49:14,989 16. 3058 01:49:14,989 --> 01:49:18,159 You don't have to bring it up. 3059 01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:19,260 But you mention you provide 3060 01:49:19,260 --> 01:49:20,930 court order transport to and 3061 01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:22,493 from correctional and medical 3062 01:49:33,941 --> 01:49:34,308 facilities 3063 01:49:34,308 --> 01:49:35,800 . 3064 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:35,943 And on page 16 you mentioned 3065 01:49:35,943 --> 01:49:36,877 the mental health hearings. 3066 01:49:36,877 --> 01:49:37,277 I'm just curious about the roll 3067 01:49:37,277 --> 01:49:38,279 of the crc. 3068 01:49:38,279 --> 01:49:38,879 Will sheriff's deputies be 3069 01:49:38,879 --> 01:49:39,280 responsible for those 3070 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:40,140 transports? 3071 01:49:40,140 --> 01:49:40,881 Because some of them I assume 3072 01:49:40,881 --> 01:49:41,782 won't be court order but what 3073 01:49:41,782 --> 01:49:41,949 is your roll working with the 3074 01:49:41,949 --> 01:49:42,817 crc? 3075 01:49:42,817 --> 01:49:45,817 >> our roll by definition that 3076 01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:48,220 when we get the khol's and 3077 01:49:48,220 --> 01:49:48,589 orders, it's our responsibility 3078 01:49:48,589 --> 01:49:50,524 by state code to do those 3079 01:49:50,524 --> 01:49:51,525 transports. 3080 01:49:51,525 --> 01:49:51,659 >> Chair Jefferson: all 3081 01:49:51,659 --> 01:49:52,159 right. 3082 01:49:52,159 --> 01:49:54,159 Supervisor gordy. 3083 01:49:55,290 --> 01:49:55,228 >> Tom Gordy: thank you MADAM 3084 01:49:55,228 --> 01:49:56,530 Chair. 3085 01:49:56,530 --> 01:50:00,130 Just getting an update on the 3086 01:50:02,803 --> 01:50:03,700 case pertaining to our 3087 01:50:03,700 --> 01:50:04,171 district. 3088 01:50:04,171 --> 01:50:04,772 i appreciate the work the 3089 01:50:04,772 --> 01:50:05,372 sheriffs department has been 3090 01:50:05,372 --> 01:50:06,473 doing in supporting the court 3091 01:50:06,473 --> 01:50:08,873 cases that are certainly 3092 01:50:11,812 --> 01:50:12,313 important to our community. 3093 01:50:12,313 --> 01:50:14,313 A couple questions. 3094 01:50:16,817 --> 01:50:17,484 Ith the 3095 01:50:17,484 --> 01:50:18,285 change in law related to 3096 01:50:18,285 --> 01:50:20,685 juvenile defendants on the 3097 01:50:21,121 --> 01:50:23,521 inability to restrain them. 3098 01:50:24,692 --> 01:50:25,592 In terms of transporting, when 3099 01:50:25,592 --> 01:50:26,393 I worked with kids in different 3100 01:50:26,393 --> 01:50:29,993 aspects of my life you could 3101 01:50:33,667 --> 01:50:34,100 never have one child alone with 3102 01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:34,335 another adult. 3103 01:50:34,335 --> 01:50:35,570 Ou always need 3104 01:50:35,570 --> 01:50:36,604 a second but it always required 3105 01:50:36,604 --> 01:50:37,271 1/3. 3106 01:50:37,271 --> 01:50:39,500 How many people do you actually 3107 01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:41,775 have to have in order to 3108 01:50:41,775 --> 01:50:44,175 transport and secure in 3109 01:50:46,714 --> 01:50:47,414 juvenile defendant between 3110 01:50:47,414 --> 01:50:50,217 while they are in custody of 3111 01:50:50,217 --> 01:50:50,885 the courthouse. 3112 01:50:50,885 --> 01:50:52,619 >> we picked them up at the 3113 01:50:52,619 --> 01:50:55,619 juvenile detention home most of 3114 01:50:57,457 --> 01:50:57,992 the time we tried to send to 3115 01:50:57,992 --> 01:50:58,959 deputies to pick them up. 3116 01:50:58,959 --> 01:51:00,861 If it is only one child we send 3117 01:51:00,861 --> 01:51:04,461 to deputies and we bring them 3118 01:51:04,598 --> 01:51:04,965 to the courthouse for the court 3119 01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:06,600 case. 3120 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:07,400 Nd wobbly are there we 3121 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,800 put them by themselves. 3122 01:51:10,537 --> 01:51:11,405 We put 3123 01:51:11,405 --> 01:51:14,140 them in over there juveniles 3124 01:51:14,140 --> 01:51:15,943 with obvious reasons. 3125 01:51:15,943 --> 01:51:19,543 One of the things that happened 3126 01:51:21,582 --> 01:51:22,149 , we find out some history on 3127 01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:24,651 the juvenile or if the 3128 01:51:24,651 --> 01:51:27,200 juveniles acting a certain way 3129 01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,880 we cannot by law put restraints 3130 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:29,155 on them 3131 01:51:29,155 --> 01:51:31,155 . 3132 01:51:33,293 --> 01:51:36,596 We have to get a special case 3133 01:51:36,596 --> 01:51:37,298 before the judge and explain 3134 01:51:37,298 --> 01:51:37,730 why we have to put restraints 3135 01:51:37,730 --> 01:51:39,730 on them. 3136 01:51:40,133 --> 01:51:41,301 And they just make 3137 01:51:41,301 --> 01:51:43,301 rent our request 3138 01:51:47,507 --> 01:51:48,509 . 3139 01:51:48,509 --> 01:51:49,443 >> Tom Gordy: in terms of the 3140 01:51:49,443 --> 01:51:52,443 increase of man hours and 3141 01:51:52,613 --> 01:51:55,130 number personnel to facilitate 3142 01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:57,500 this new policy 3143 01:51:57,500 --> 01:51:58,180 . 3144 01:51:58,180 --> 01:52:01,421 What has been the net impact on 3145 01:52:01,421 --> 01:52:01,755 your staffing to meet the 3146 01:52:01,755 --> 01:52:03,900 requirements. 3147 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:04,724 We know juvenile crime is not 3148 01:52:04,724 --> 01:52:06,724 in decline 3149 01:52:07,227 --> 01:52:09,227 . 3150 01:52:11,464 --> 01:52:15,640 In terms of trying to manage 3151 01:52:15,868 --> 01:52:16,870 under this new regime, what is 3152 01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:19,172 that under your staffing 3153 01:52:19,172 --> 01:52:20,173 requirements? 3154 01:52:20,173 --> 01:52:21,975 >> it required us to bring in 3155 01:52:21,975 --> 01:52:22,943 more deputies to the courtroom 3156 01:52:22,943 --> 01:52:26,947 and we have to pull them from 3157 01:52:26,947 --> 01:52:27,847 other duties to make sure there 3158 01:52:27,847 --> 01:52:28,515 is order in the courtroom. 3159 01:52:28,515 --> 01:52:30,500 Make sure decorum is in the 3160 01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:33,650 courtroom and make sure no one 3161 01:52:35,550 --> 01:52:35,822 gets hurt so it is always 3162 01:52:35,822 --> 01:52:38,822 better to have extra deputies 3163 01:52:42,128 --> 01:52:43,960 to help out. 3164 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:43,797 >> Tom Gordy: when we look at 3165 01:52:43,797 --> 01:52:44,664 the 12 fte you are looking at, 3166 01:52:44,664 --> 01:52:45,665 how much of that goes to 3167 01:52:45,665 --> 01:52:46,266 helping alleviate some of the 3168 01:52:46,266 --> 01:52:48,666 challenges that have been 3169 01:52:48,968 --> 01:52:49,135 presented because of this new 3170 01:52:49,135 --> 01:52:49,969 law. 3171 01:52:49,969 --> 01:52:52,605 >> I intend about six in the 3172 01:52:52,605 --> 01:52:53,473 courthouse in six in operation. 3173 01:52:53,473 --> 01:52:56,473 As I mentioned earlier about 3174 01:53:02,816 --> 01:53:03,449 the transports we have to do, 3175 01:53:03,449 --> 01:53:04,317 those deputies would be 3176 01:53:04,317 --> 01:53:05,186 assigned to assist with our 3177 01:53:05,186 --> 01:53:06,286 process and transports. 3178 01:53:06,286 --> 01:53:06,920 And of course all the deputies 3179 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:07,821 am asking for is going to help 3180 01:53:07,821 --> 01:53:10,821 us out with high-profile trials 3181 01:53:12,259 --> 01:53:12,993 and a lot of the court cases we 3182 01:53:12,993 --> 01:53:13,727 have now that require extra 3183 01:53:13,727 --> 01:53:15,727 deputies. 3184 01:53:17,630 --> 01:53:19,165 Extra screening going into the 3185 01:53:19,165 --> 01:53:19,899 court rooms. 3186 01:53:19,899 --> 01:53:23,169 Also, there's a lot of activity 3187 01:53:23,169 --> 01:53:24,170 in the hallways. 3188 01:53:24,170 --> 01:53:24,770 they are there on both sides. 3189 01:53:24,770 --> 01:53:27,400 We want to make sure that 3190 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,400 everyone is safe. 3191 01:53:30,644 --> 01:53:31,645 Occasionally we do have 3192 01:53:31,645 --> 01:53:32,879 disruptions, therefore the 3193 01:53:32,879 --> 01:53:35,279 defense and the defendants 3194 01:53:42,489 --> 01:53:43,890 also. 3195 01:53:43,890 --> 01:53:44,570 >> Tom Gordy: okay. 3196 01:53:44,570 --> 01:53:45,240 On the uniform we know you are 3197 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:45,725 having to upgrade uniforms 3198 01:53:45,725 --> 01:53:46,660 across your force here can you 3199 01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:47,994 give us more insight into what 3200 01:53:47,994 --> 01:53:50,296 is driving that and how that is 3201 01:53:50,296 --> 01:53:50,630 impacting your budget? 3202 01:53:50,630 --> 01:53:52,198 >> yes. 3203 01:53:52,198 --> 01:53:53,330 We are looking at changing the 3204 01:53:53,330 --> 01:53:55,235 brown uniform to another 3205 01:53:55,235 --> 01:53:57,635 uniform because the brown 3206 01:53:59,406 --> 01:54:01,400 uniforms are so hard to get and 3207 01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,177 it is hard to match up the 3208 01:54:04,177 --> 01:54:06,913 colors but they do an 3209 01:54:06,913 --> 01:54:07,460 outstanding job helping us 3210 01:54:07,460 --> 01:54:07,947 , but 3211 01:54:07,947 --> 01:54:10,947 that person is overwhelmed and 3212 01:54:11,317 --> 01:54:14,317 because of all of the 3213 01:54:17,230 --> 01:54:17,257 requirements meeting 1/4 3214 01:54:17,257 --> 01:54:18,224 master. 3215 01:54:18,224 --> 01:54:19,250 Keeping the records, issuing 3216 01:54:19,250 --> 01:54:21,250 the uniforms, replacing 3217 01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:23,296 uniforms and also handling the 3218 01:54:23,296 --> 01:54:25,798 other duties such as overtime 3219 01:54:25,798 --> 01:54:26,332 requirements that we have to 3220 01:54:26,332 --> 01:54:28,332 process 3221 01:54:29,369 --> 01:54:30,700 . 3222 01:54:30,700 --> 01:54:33,700 That person is also responsible 3223 01:54:38,244 --> 01:54:39,245 for that also. 3224 01:54:39,245 --> 01:54:39,746 >> Tom Gordy: thank you. 3225 01:54:39,746 --> 01:54:40,480 Appreciate it. 3226 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:40,746 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 3227 01:54:40,746 --> 01:54:41,747 boddye. 3228 01:54:41,747 --> 01:54:42,382 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you for 3229 01:54:42,382 --> 01:54:43,249 coming before us again. 3230 01:54:43,249 --> 01:54:44,284 Appreciate everything you and 3231 01:54:44,284 --> 01:54:45,850 your team can do to keep folks 3232 01:54:45,850 --> 01:54:45,819 safe all throughout the 3233 01:54:45,819 --> 01:54:46,186 community so I wanted to say 3234 01:54:46,186 --> 01:54:48,186 that. 3235 01:54:50,256 --> 01:54:50,657 I wanted to check in 3236 01:54:50,657 --> 01:54:50,890 with you because 3237 01:54:50,890 --> 01:54:51,691 you're 3238 01:54:51,691 --> 01:54:54,910 obviously asking for more 3239 01:54:58,798 --> 01:54:59,398 positions. 3240 01:54:59,398 --> 01:55:00,300 How has hiring then? 3241 01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:00,900 I know you had vacancies 3242 01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:01,801 previously and have been 3243 01:55:01,801 --> 01:55:03,102 working on that. 3244 01:55:03,102 --> 01:55:06,702 Can you talk about that piece? 3245 01:55:08,508 --> 01:55:08,707 >> filling vacancies is not 3246 01:55:08,707 --> 01:55:09,542 easy. 3247 01:55:09,542 --> 01:55:11,477 We are in a competitive process 3248 01:55:11,477 --> 01:55:12,379 with other chores offices in 3249 01:55:12,379 --> 01:55:12,578 the police department in the 3250 01:55:12,578 --> 01:55:14,578 area. 3251 01:55:17,984 --> 01:55:18,718 We have to be very competitive. 3252 01:55:18,718 --> 01:55:19,852 I have not lowered my standards 3253 01:55:19,852 --> 01:55:19,985 as far as recruiting 3254 01:55:19,985 --> 01:55:20,920 . 3255 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,355 We want to make sure we get the 3256 01:55:23,355 --> 01:55:26,859 best and the brightest to come 3257 01:55:26,859 --> 01:55:26,960 to work 3258 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,160 . 3259 01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:29,261 So it is a challenge 3260 01:55:29,261 --> 01:55:31,261 . 3261 01:55:32,365 --> 01:55:32,932 Our best recruiters are the 3262 01:55:32,932 --> 01:55:34,700 people who work at the 3263 01:55:34,700 --> 01:55:34,834 sheriff's office 3264 01:55:34,834 --> 01:55:35,801 . 3265 01:55:35,801 --> 01:55:40,100 They tell me they want to be 3266 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,276 able to helped me because they 3267 01:55:43,276 --> 01:55:44,177 know what type we want and they 3268 01:55:44,177 --> 01:55:47,460 actually go out and help us 3269 01:55:47,460 --> 01:55:50,460 recruit those types of deputies 3270 01:55:53,619 --> 01:55:54,487 so they want to work with them. 3271 01:55:54,487 --> 01:55:55,287 >> Kenny Boddye: I always love 3272 01:55:55,287 --> 01:55:56,456 it when we are trying to coach 3273 01:55:56,456 --> 01:55:57,220 people from other places as 3274 01:55:57,220 --> 01:55:57,356 opposed to the other way 3275 01:55:57,356 --> 01:55:59,191 around. 3276 01:55:59,191 --> 01:56:00,590 That is great to hear. 3277 01:56:00,590 --> 01:56:01,427 I know we have had difficulty 3278 01:56:01,427 --> 01:56:02,128 in the past. 3279 01:56:02,128 --> 01:56:04,163 We've been trying to help you 3280 01:56:04,163 --> 01:56:04,797 to get us where we need to be 3281 01:56:04,797 --> 01:56:07,266 to make you a lot more 3282 01:56:07,266 --> 01:56:07,400 attractive of an employer 3283 01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:08,367 . 3284 01:56:08,367 --> 01:56:10,603 I'm glad we have been working 3285 01:56:10,603 --> 01:56:11,270 on that. 3286 01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:14,673 Mother question to go in the 3287 01:56:14,673 --> 01:56:15,508 other direction is on the same 3288 01:56:15,508 --> 01:56:16,208 program I really appreciate 3289 01:56:16,208 --> 01:56:17,710 everything you have been doing 3290 01:56:17,710 --> 01:56:18,444 with that. 3291 01:56:18,444 --> 01:56:18,777 Obviously literally lifesaving 3292 01:56:18,777 --> 01:56:20,777 work 3293 01:56:21,747 --> 01:56:22,381 . 3294 01:56:22,381 --> 01:56:25,381 $15,000 I hate to say it. 3295 01:56:27,653 --> 01:56:28,454 Is a very small amount of money 3296 01:56:28,454 --> 01:56:29,221 and that is based on the 3297 01:56:29,221 --> 01:56:31,390 waitlist he said you have your 3298 01:56:31,390 --> 01:56:33,992 car you able to project out and 3299 01:56:33,992 --> 01:56:38,192 tell us how much you MAY need 3300 01:56:38,364 --> 01:56:38,998 with that knowing we have an 3301 01:56:38,998 --> 01:56:40,533 aging population in prince 3302 01:56:40,533 --> 01:56:43,533 william county and chances are 3303 01:56:43,869 --> 01:56:43,936 the folks that we have 3304 01:56:43,936 --> 01:56:45,936 . 3305 01:56:46,839 --> 01:56:49,341 You said 90 something folks on 3306 01:56:49,341 --> 01:56:50,408 it. 3307 01:56:50,408 --> 01:56:52,808 That is underrepresented the 3308 01:56:53,646 --> 01:56:56,248 people who need to be on it. 3309 01:56:56,248 --> 01:56:56,815 Spoke project lifesaver is a 3310 01:56:56,815 --> 01:56:59,815 program I am proud of. 3311 01:57:01,887 --> 01:57:04,690 I don't want to say no to a 3312 01:57:04,690 --> 01:57:04,757 family who put application 3313 01:57:04,757 --> 01:57:06,757 . 3314 01:57:07,860 --> 01:57:09,861 The 15,000 asking for is simply 3315 01:57:09,861 --> 01:57:13,298 an amount to help us by 3316 01:57:13,298 --> 01:57:13,399 additional equipment 3317 01:57:13,399 --> 01:57:14,333 . 3318 01:57:14,333 --> 01:57:16,733 Bracelets and batteries and 3319 01:57:17,690 --> 01:57:19,690 other replacement equipment 3320 01:57:19,538 --> 01:57:21,907 that we need for that program. 3321 01:57:21,907 --> 01:57:23,676 Hopefully to 15,000 would last 3322 01:57:23,676 --> 01:57:23,742 a year 3323 01:57:23,742 --> 01:57:25,742 . 3324 01:57:27,913 --> 01:57:28,481 As I mentioned earlier, 3325 01:57:28,481 --> 01:57:29,982 sometimes when we go to our 3326 01:57:29,982 --> 01:57:32,382 families to replace the 3327 01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:35,451 bracelet, sometimes they get 3328 01:57:44,930 --> 01:57:46,310 damaged and we want to make 3329 01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:46,465 sure we have a good bracelet on 3330 01:57:46,465 --> 01:57:47,399 the families. 3331 01:57:47,399 --> 01:57:48,300 But one of the things I like 3332 01:57:48,300 --> 01:57:49,340 about that program is the 3333 01:57:49,340 --> 01:57:49,901 families like for us to come to 3334 01:57:49,901 --> 01:57:50,102 the residence and visit with 3335 01:57:50,102 --> 01:57:50,970 them. 3336 01:57:50,970 --> 01:57:51,537 The kids absolutely love the 3337 01:57:51,537 --> 01:57:52,404 deputies that come in. 3338 01:57:52,404 --> 01:57:55,404 i get good comments from 3339 01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:58,430 families about how we visit the 3340 01:57:58,430 --> 01:57:58,510 families and the time we spend 3341 01:57:58,510 --> 01:57:59,100 with them. 3342 01:57:59,100 --> 01:57:59,711 So that is important. 3343 01:57:59,711 --> 01:58:00,579 >> Kenny Boddye: I know you 3344 01:58:00,579 --> 01:58:02,181 guys are popular with all age 3345 01:58:02,181 --> 01:58:03,182 groups. 3346 01:58:03,182 --> 01:58:03,782 I brought my son to an event 3347 01:58:03,782 --> 01:58:06,782 different I think around JUNE 3348 01:58:13,793 --> 01:58:14,292 and both of my kids got a lotta 3349 01:58:14,292 --> 01:58:15,930 pictures with him. 3350 01:58:15,930 --> 01:58:15,995 >> we start recruiting early. 3351 01:58:15,995 --> 01:58:16,895 > Kenny Boddye: I don't know 3352 01:58:16,895 --> 01:58:17,529 if my wife would be okay with 3353 01:58:17,529 --> 01:58:17,796 you recruiting my son, but I 3354 01:58:17,796 --> 01:58:17,929 would 3355 01:58:17,929 --> 01:58:18,897 say. 3356 01:58:18,897 --> 01:58:19,164 My last question if you would 3357 01:58:19,164 --> 01:58:21,164 let me 3358 01:58:21,333 --> 01:58:22,401 . 3359 01:58:22,401 --> 01:58:25,401 In terms of the transportation 3360 01:58:25,871 --> 01:58:26,805 piece, you narrowed in on why 3361 01:58:26,805 --> 01:58:30,405 you need the extra folks and 3362 01:58:30,408 --> 01:58:34,800 what have you and I appreciate 3363 01:58:34,479 --> 01:58:36,748 the chair bringing up the 3364 01:58:36,748 --> 01:58:37,616 crisis receiving center because 3365 01:58:37,616 --> 01:58:38,617 the crisis receiving centers 3366 01:58:38,617 --> 01:58:39,751 are established only in prince 3367 01:58:39,751 --> 01:58:40,452 william county 3368 01:58:40,452 --> 01:58:42,452 , how do you 3369 01:58:43,255 --> 01:58:46,258 suspect both from our end but 3370 01:58:46,258 --> 01:58:49,561 also with the crc centers being 3371 01:58:49,561 --> 01:58:50,462 established closer frankly then 3372 01:58:50,462 --> 01:58:51,196 where they have been. 3373 01:58:51,196 --> 01:58:55,396 How do you see that helping you 3374 01:59:41,790 --> 01:59:43,479 in the long run? 3375 01:59:53,391 --> 01:59:54,659 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 3376 01:59:54,659 --> 01:59:55,293 so very much. 3377 01:59:55,293 --> 01:59:55,894 I don't see anyone else in the 3378 01:59:55,894 --> 01:59:57,228 cupid thank you so very much 3379 01:59:57,228 --> 01:59:57,862 share film and to the people 3380 01:59:57,862 --> 01:59:58,630 you brought out today for your 3381 01:59:58,630 --> 01:59:58,830 team. 3382 01:59:58,830 --> 01:59:59,300 We appreciate you and your 3383 01:59:59,300 --> 01:59:59,998 work. 3384 01:59:59,998 --> 02:00:03,598 >> thank you for allowing me to 3385 02:00:13,311 --> 02:00:14,450 come before you. 3386 02:00:14,450 --> 02:00:14,913 >> MR. Shorter: thank you met 3387 02:00:14,913 --> 02:00:15,813 in turn members of the board. 3388 02:00:15,813 --> 02:00:16,481 again, thank you for the 3389 02:00:16,481 --> 02:00:17,820 presentation and for your 3390 02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:17,949 service to the county. 3391 02:00:17,949 --> 02:00:22,149 I will now ask our clerk jackie 3392 02:00:52,490 --> 02:00:52,617 smith take over. 3393 02:00:52,617 --> 02:00:55,170 >> what did I do? 3394 02:02:03,487 --> 02:02:04,322 Customer 3395 02:02:04,322 --> 02:02:06,357 service in the commonwealth 3396 02:02:06,357 --> 02:02:07,492 always. 3397 02:02:07,492 --> 02:02:10,492 We are professional, we inspire 3398 02:02:11,829 --> 02:02:12,563 combatants, and our customers 3399 02:02:12,563 --> 02:02:14,963 needs are met completely. 3400 02:02:21,105 --> 02:02:23,505 We value our customers 3401 02:02:23,541 --> 02:02:24,409 , the 3402 02:02:24,409 --> 02:02:25,409 taxpayer dollar, our people, 3403 02:02:25,409 --> 02:02:26,410 integrity and teamwork and we 3404 02:02:26,410 --> 02:02:28,120 always remember that we serve 3405 02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:28,579 the people of prince william 3406 02:02:28,579 --> 02:02:29,413 manassas and manassas park. 3407 02:02:29,413 --> 02:02:33,130 When most people think of the 3408 02:02:33,184 --> 02:02:35,860 clerk of the court 3409 02:02:35,860 --> 02:02:35,920 , they think 3410 02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:36,587 of the person sitting left or 3411 02:02:36,587 --> 02:02:39,587 right of the judge taking 3412 02:02:41,792 --> 02:02:42,493 notes, assisting the judge, 3413 02:02:42,493 --> 02:02:43,394 keeping the record but this is 3414 02:02:43,394 --> 02:02:44,950 a small fraction with the clerk 3415 02:02:44,950 --> 02:02:46,495 of the court does. 3416 02:02:51,269 --> 02:02:52,360 Most notable probably for this 3417 02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:52,870 type of meeting as we collect 3418 02:02:52,870 --> 02:02:53,104 our recordation taxes for the 3419 02:02:53,104 --> 02:02:54,238 county. 3420 02:02:54,238 --> 02:02:57,238 Of course we create, maintain, 3421 02:02:59,443 --> 02:02:59,677 and protect the official court 3422 02:02:59,677 --> 02:03:00,444 record. 3423 02:03:00,444 --> 02:03:01,612 We also issued concealed 3424 02:03:01,612 --> 02:03:02,480 handgun permits as you heard 3425 02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:03,180 from the sheriff earlier and we 3426 02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:05,160 are again this year on target 3427 02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:05,649 to produce more concealed 3428 02:03:05,649 --> 02:03:06,417 handgun permits than any other 3429 02:03:06,417 --> 02:03:08,417 jurisdiction in the 3430 02:03:11,255 --> 02:03:12,223 commonwealth. 3431 02:03:12,223 --> 02:03:12,823 We still do it faster than 3432 02:03:12,823 --> 02:03:13,724 anyone else and we do it as 3433 02:03:13,724 --> 02:03:17,227 cheap as you can find in the 3434 02:03:17,227 --> 02:03:18,496 commonwealth. 3435 02:03:18,496 --> 02:03:21,496 It's a service to our 3436 02:03:23,534 --> 02:03:24,468 constituents picked are also 3437 02:03:24,468 --> 02:03:25,369 under more duties described in 3438 02:03:25,369 --> 02:03:28,380 the statute but these are the 3439 02:03:28,380 --> 02:03:28,906 highlights. 3440 02:03:28,906 --> 02:03:31,306 We work with multiple 3441 02:03:33,777 --> 02:03:34,440 government agencies 3442 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:35,120 . 3443 02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:35,212 Most notably we added fema this 3444 02:03:35,212 --> 02:03:36,180 year. 3445 02:03:36,180 --> 02:03:39,180 They contacted us with interest 3446 02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:43,621 in our self-service kiosk to 3447 02:03:43,621 --> 02:03:44,855 see how they can implement them 3448 02:03:44,855 --> 02:03:45,622 in the federal government to 3449 02:03:45,622 --> 02:03:47,622 benefit their operations. 3450 02:03:48,559 --> 02:03:51,559 And so4 and annual update. 3451 02:03:53,564 --> 02:03:54,598 We support safe and secure 3452 02:03:54,598 --> 02:03:56,998 communities in many initiatives 3453 02:04:06,576 --> 02:04:07,278 for the first is accessibility. 3454 02:04:07,278 --> 02:04:08,612 We operate seals on wheels are 3455 02:04:08,612 --> 02:04:09,147 fully mobile clerks office on 3456 02:04:09,147 --> 02:04:10,800 saturdays once a month to 3457 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:10,648 provide services to prince 3458 02:04:10,648 --> 02:04:11,582 william county residents as 3459 02:04:11,582 --> 02:04:12,249 well as the residence of the 3460 02:04:12,249 --> 02:04:13,830 two cities in a location 3461 02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:16,830 convenient to them outside of 3462 02:04:16,921 --> 02:04:17,254 normal business hours 3463 02:04:17,254 --> 02:04:18,155 , give us 3464 02:04:18,155 --> 02:04:19,224 a plug our last event is on 3465 02:04:19,224 --> 02:04:21,224 gainesville district from 3466 02:04:22,726 --> 02:04:22,826 10:00to 1:00 3467 02:04:22,826 --> 02:04:23,794 . 3468 02:04:23,794 --> 02:04:26,794 We also host judicial center 3469 02:04:27,231 --> 02:04:29,266 pop-ups which occur on campus 3470 02:04:29,266 --> 02:04:31,168 after business hours to allow 3471 02:04:31,168 --> 02:04:34,768 people who need to get their 3472 02:04:37,775 --> 02:04:38,776 business done after working a 3473 02:04:38,776 --> 02:04:39,410 full day have an opportunity to 3474 02:04:39,410 --> 02:04:41,545 do that without having to take 3475 02:04:41,545 --> 02:04:42,512 time off of work. 3476 02:04:42,512 --> 02:04:45,512 As I mentioned earlier we 3477 02:04:51,888 --> 02:04:52,723 deployed self-service kiosks 3478 02:04:52,723 --> 02:04:53,390 throughout the county including 3479 02:04:53,390 --> 02:04:54,392 in this building. 3480 02:04:54,392 --> 02:04:54,925 Through the kiosks you can 3481 02:04:54,925 --> 02:04:55,893 interact with our office. 3482 02:04:55,893 --> 02:04:56,560 You can interact with other 3483 02:04:56,560 --> 02:05:00,160 courts, pay your taxes and even 3484 02:05:01,198 --> 02:05:01,866 registered to vote. 3485 02:05:01,866 --> 02:05:03,166 We deployed kiosks at half of 3486 02:05:03,166 --> 02:05:04,135 the county libraries and we are 3487 02:05:04,135 --> 02:05:04,334 deploying another for this 3488 02:05:04,334 --> 02:05:04,901 year. 3489 02:05:04,901 --> 02:05:05,669 We will have three more to 3490 02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:06,670 deploy the year after in this 3491 02:05:06,670 --> 02:05:07,404 program is completely grand 3492 02:05:07,404 --> 02:05:11,400 fund and park will some operate 3493 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:17,781 litigant self center. 3494 02:05:17,781 --> 02:05:18,415 The self-help center is aimed 3495 02:05:18,415 --> 02:05:19,490 at giving people access to the 3496 02:05:19,490 --> 02:05:22,490 courts whether they can afford 3497 02:05:29,592 --> 02:05:30,561 an attorney or not. 3498 02:05:30,561 --> 02:05:31,595 We provide different legal 3499 02:05:31,595 --> 02:05:32,228 resources as well as exemplars 3500 02:05:32,228 --> 02:05:33,163 and forms some people take care 3501 02:05:33,163 --> 02:05:34,650 of the business in the court 3502 02:05:34,650 --> 02:05:36,465 been possible without the 3503 02:05:40,803 --> 02:05:41,805 assistance of an attorney. 3504 02:05:41,805 --> 02:05:42,772 Last year you MAY remember we 3505 02:05:42,772 --> 02:05:43,307 launched our real property 3506 02:05:43,307 --> 02:05:44,700 fraud alert service. 3507 02:05:44,700 --> 02:05:47,607 This is a service we provide 3508 02:05:55,485 --> 02:05:58,485 for free to our constituents 3509 02:05:59,857 --> 02:06:00,724 . 3510 02:06:00,724 --> 02:06:01,524 There are some services you can 3511 02:06:01,524 --> 02:06:02,192 subscribe two for a 3512 02:06:02,192 --> 02:06:03,193 subscription fee, but we were 3513 02:06:03,193 --> 02:06:04,794 able to secure grant funding to 3514 02:06:04,794 --> 02:06:05,696 provide service free of cost 3515 02:06:05,696 --> 02:06:06,329 per call the resident asked to 3516 02:06:06,329 --> 02:06:07,698 do is go on the system, 3517 02:06:07,698 --> 02:06:08,298 register their property in any 3518 02:06:08,298 --> 02:06:08,898 time someone tries to do any 3519 02:06:08,898 --> 02:06:09,900 activity in land records on 3520 02:06:09,900 --> 02:06:12,300 that property the registered 3521 02:06:17,173 --> 02:06:18,175 owner will be notified. 3522 02:06:18,175 --> 02:06:19,800 This doesn't prevent deed to 3523 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:19,809 fraud but it makes it a lot 3524 02:06:19,809 --> 02:06:20,811 less harmful and a lot easier 3525 02:06:20,811 --> 02:06:24,411 to correct if it should happen, 3526 02:06:27,283 --> 02:06:28,118 which it has not in prince 3527 02:06:28,118 --> 02:06:28,752 william county. 3528 02:06:28,752 --> 02:06:29,619 We also provide free gun locks 3529 02:06:29,619 --> 02:06:30,653 to promote safe and secure 3530 02:06:30,653 --> 02:06:33,653 communities and we expanded our 3531 02:06:33,657 --> 02:06:34,591 online services to include 3532 02:06:34,591 --> 02:06:35,325 online scheduling, online 3533 02:06:35,325 --> 02:06:36,326 probate of most wills, historic 3534 02:06:36,326 --> 02:06:37,261 records were all our historic 3535 02:06:37,261 --> 02:06:40,261 records can be accessed from 3536 02:06:42,650 --> 02:06:43,660 your home and coming in MAY 3537 02:06:43,660 --> 02:06:44,100 2026 we will be announcing the 3538 02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:46,500 artificially fully digitized in 3539 02:06:54,745 --> 02:06:55,244 a record system. 3540 02:06:55,244 --> 02:06:56,246 Another issue with 3541 02:06:56,246 --> 02:06:57,247 accessibility has been the 3542 02:06:57,247 --> 02:06:58,582 availability of parking at the 3543 02:06:58,582 --> 02:07:00,582 judicial center. 3544 02:07:03,486 --> 02:07:04,220 We undertook a lotta talk and 3545 02:07:04,220 --> 02:07:07,820 research on how to improve this 3546 02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:10,360 at a low to no cost 3547 02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:10,994 . 3548 02:07:10,994 --> 02:07:11,795 What we came up with was 3549 02:07:11,795 --> 02:07:12,729 creating a network of google 3550 02:07:12,729 --> 02:07:13,863 maps that show all of the 3551 02:07:13,863 --> 02:07:16,863 available parking areas in and 3552 02:07:18,101 --> 02:07:19,102 around the judicial center on 3553 02:07:19,102 --> 02:07:21,805 the judicial center campus we 3554 02:07:21,805 --> 02:07:24,805 have signage everywhere with qr 3555 02:07:27,477 --> 02:07:28,378 code so people can scan it with 3556 02:07:28,378 --> 02:07:29,312 their phone and have their 3557 02:07:29,312 --> 02:07:29,879 phone direct them to the 3558 02:07:29,879 --> 02:07:31,879 nearest available parking. 3559 02:07:33,150 --> 02:07:33,416 We also expanded our language 3560 02:07:33,416 --> 02:07:34,651 services. 3561 02:07:34,651 --> 02:07:35,184 We can communicate with 3562 02:07:35,184 --> 02:07:37,387 customers in more than 50 3563 02:07:37,387 --> 02:07:39,787 different languages in writing 3564 02:07:42,792 --> 02:07:43,793 and verbally. 3565 02:07:43,793 --> 02:07:46,793 That offer an judicial ability 3566 02:07:51,434 --> 02:07:52,769 has been recognized by virginia 3567 02:07:52,769 --> 02:07:53,303 lawyers weekly, fox five, D.C. 3568 02:07:53,303 --> 02:07:53,803 101 and wto p news on the 3569 02:07:53,803 --> 02:07:56,203 virginia state bar has 3570 02:08:06,817 --> 02:08:07,784 appointed us to the access to 3571 02:08:07,784 --> 02:08:08,718 legal services board to share 3572 02:08:08,718 --> 02:08:09,419 innovations we brought to 3573 02:08:09,419 --> 02:08:10,286 prince william to help spread 3574 02:08:10,286 --> 02:08:11,154 them across the commonwealth 3575 02:08:11,154 --> 02:08:11,521 the communities that would 3576 02:08:11,521 --> 02:08:12,880 benefit. 3577 02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,757 We also endeavor to provide 3578 02:08:14,757 --> 02:08:16,757 civic education. 3579 02:08:22,532 --> 02:08:23,199 We had our first annual fair on 3580 02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:24,100 the square which is a private 3581 02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:24,967 public partnership that brought 3582 02:08:24,967 --> 02:08:25,668 together 60 local businesses 3583 02:08:25,668 --> 02:08:26,569 and government agencies to 3584 02:08:26,569 --> 02:08:27,503 share with the community what 3585 02:08:27,503 --> 02:08:29,503 services were available. 3586 02:08:35,245 --> 02:08:36,145 Although we didn't plan it this 3587 02:08:36,145 --> 02:08:36,812 way it was timely with the 3588 02:08:36,812 --> 02:08:37,814 government shutdown. 3589 02:08:37,814 --> 02:08:38,140 There were a lot of people in 3590 02:08:38,140 --> 02:08:38,848 need. 3591 02:08:38,848 --> 02:08:40,150 It was well attended and we are 3592 02:08:40,150 --> 02:08:43,150 looking forward to expanding it 3593 02:08:44,653 --> 02:08:45,622 even further next year. 3594 02:08:45,622 --> 02:08:46,389 We also were able to host a 3595 02:08:46,389 --> 02:08:46,856 successful animal supply drive 3596 02:08:46,856 --> 02:08:48,856 at that event. 3597 02:08:55,164 --> 02:08:55,865 My office was full of dog food. 3598 02:08:55,865 --> 02:08:56,866 We participate in the animal 3599 02:08:56,866 --> 02:08:57,667 town of dumfries expungement 3600 02:08:57,667 --> 02:08:58,334 clinic along with the 3601 02:08:58,334 --> 02:09:00,334 constitutional officers. 3602 02:09:01,271 --> 02:09:01,971 We also printed this 3603 02:09:01,971 --> 02:09:02,838 participated in clinics in 3604 02:09:02,838 --> 02:09:05,838 other communities but by far 3605 02:09:09,780 --> 02:09:09,679 the town expungement clinic is 3606 02:09:09,679 --> 02:09:10,679 the most popular and I would 3607 02:09:10,679 --> 02:09:11,547 say it is down to the dumfries 3608 02:09:11,547 --> 02:09:14,547 town council who does an 3609 02:09:24,126 --> 02:09:24,327 excellent job running that 3610 02:09:24,327 --> 02:09:25,128 event. 3611 02:09:25,128 --> 02:09:26,128 We also host a student art 3612 02:09:26,128 --> 02:09:26,629 contest every year for law day. 3613 02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:27,630 The theme is always a 3614 02:09:27,630 --> 02:09:28,364 constitutional theme and the 3615 02:09:28,364 --> 02:09:29,299 children are asked to interpret 3616 02:09:29,299 --> 02:09:29,498 that theme and what it means to 3617 02:09:29,498 --> 02:09:30,266 them. 3618 02:09:30,266 --> 02:09:30,966 It is open to prince william 3619 02:09:30,966 --> 02:09:31,300 county school students, 3620 02:09:31,300 --> 02:09:32,134 manasses 3621 02:09:32,134 --> 02:09:33,569 , manassas park and private 3622 02:09:33,569 --> 02:09:35,969 school students and homeschool 3623 02:09:39,308 --> 02:09:40,760 students. 3624 02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:41,311 As you probably realize we are 3625 02:09:41,311 --> 02:09:43,711 and supervisor gordy district. 3626 02:09:52,789 --> 02:09:53,489 Supervisor gordy has been so 3627 02:09:53,489 --> 02:09:54,724 supportive of the art contest. 3628 02:09:54,724 --> 02:09:55,691 I appreciate you entered a 3629 02:09:55,691 --> 02:09:55,924 proclamation about the art 3630 02:09:55,924 --> 02:09:56,759 contest. 3631 02:09:56,759 --> 02:09:57,360 Supervisor gordy can then read 3632 02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:57,727 it to the kids but they were 3633 02:09:57,727 --> 02:09:58,428 very excited. 3634 02:09:58,428 --> 02:10:01,428 I appreciate your support of 3635 02:10:01,563 --> 02:10:02,297 that program. 3636 02:10:02,297 --> 02:10:03,633 We also provide presentations 3637 02:10:03,633 --> 02:10:05,340 and trainings to the league of 3638 02:10:05,340 --> 02:10:08,340 voters, girl scouts and the 3639 02:10:12,875 --> 02:10:13,509 scouts of america. 3640 02:10:13,509 --> 02:10:16,509 We provide services to the 3641 02:10:18,614 --> 02:10:19,315 justice like me initiative 3642 02:10:19,315 --> 02:10:21,315 within the courthouse. 3643 02:10:25,321 --> 02:10:26,255 Would provide access to 3644 02:10:26,255 --> 02:10:27,223 different artifacts to 3645 02:10:27,223 --> 02:10:27,890 homeschool groups to bring 3646 02:10:27,890 --> 02:10:28,825 history alive for them based on 3647 02:10:28,825 --> 02:10:29,926 what they are studying at that 3648 02:10:29,926 --> 02:10:30,626 time. 3649 02:10:30,626 --> 02:10:31,427 We also do that for different 3650 02:10:31,427 --> 02:10:32,628 community groups who express 3651 02:10:32,628 --> 02:10:34,628 interest. 3652 02:10:34,764 --> 02:10:37,764 We are also focused on 3653 02:10:38,801 --> 02:10:39,135 potential efficiency 3654 02:10:39,135 --> 02:10:40,303 improvements. 3655 02:10:40,303 --> 02:10:42,805 One of the greatest areas of 3656 02:10:42,805 --> 02:10:43,805 the success we have seen is an 3657 02:10:43,805 --> 02:10:45,805 employee developments 3658 02:10:49,379 --> 02:10:50,413 satisfaction and retention. 3659 02:10:50,413 --> 02:10:52,248 We have developed a three-tier 3660 02:10:52,248 --> 02:10:52,414 training model for people 3661 02:10:52,414 --> 02:10:54,414 , your 3662 02:10:58,787 --> 02:10:59,422 employees we bring into our 3663 02:10:59,422 --> 02:11:00,289 agency the first is the new 3664 02:11:00,289 --> 02:11:02,123 employee skills training 3665 02:11:02,123 --> 02:11:02,891 module. 3666 02:11:02,891 --> 02:11:05,861 That is a one year module where 3667 02:11:05,861 --> 02:11:06,128 one month our benchmarks to 3668 02:11:06,128 --> 02:11:08,128 meet. 3669 02:11:08,697 --> 02:11:09,331 E use the resources 3670 02:11:09,331 --> 02:11:12,331 provided the county through pwc 3671 02:11:12,501 --> 02:11:13,469 university. 3672 02:11:13,469 --> 02:11:14,469 We also form discussion groups 3673 02:11:14,469 --> 02:11:16,869 around the different lessons 3674 02:11:17,406 --> 02:11:17,973 learned to set a bar of 3675 02:11:17,973 --> 02:11:19,973 professionalism for our 3676 02:11:21,243 --> 02:11:21,343 employees 3677 02:11:21,343 --> 02:11:22,278 . 3678 02:11:22,278 --> 02:11:24,480 And also to promote positive 3679 02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:25,481 mental health. 3680 02:11:25,481 --> 02:11:27,149 Because we can be put in very 3681 02:11:27,149 --> 02:11:29,549 difficult situations in the 3682 02:11:31,187 --> 02:11:34,123 courthouse and we interact with 3683 02:11:34,123 --> 02:11:36,224 a law of different people every 3684 02:11:36,224 --> 02:11:36,492 day and it can be difficult 3685 02:11:36,492 --> 02:11:38,492 sometimes. 3686 02:11:40,996 --> 02:11:41,897 But knowing our employees have 3687 02:11:41,897 --> 02:11:44,897 that support within their own 3688 02:11:44,934 --> 02:11:45,935 agency community. 3689 02:11:45,935 --> 02:11:46,935 They have their classmates that 3690 02:11:46,935 --> 02:11:47,436 I've gone through the same 3691 02:11:47,436 --> 02:11:49,836 training has been very 3692 02:11:52,274 --> 02:11:53,241 beneficial to help create solid 3693 02:11:53,241 --> 02:11:54,760 partnerships within our agency 3694 02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:54,342 and to promote employee 3695 02:11:54,342 --> 02:11:56,342 retention. 3696 02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:00,480 After that we have 3697 02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:01,490 our rebound reality based rules 3698 02:12:01,490 --> 02:12:01,617 of the workplace module which 3699 02:12:01,617 --> 02:12:02,518 is sort of the next level. 3700 02:12:02,518 --> 02:12:03,185 If you show promise for 3701 02:12:03,185 --> 02:12:06,185 leadership in the office we 3702 02:12:07,256 --> 02:12:07,456 will have you attend that class 3703 02:12:07,456 --> 02:12:08,323 . 3704 02:12:08,323 --> 02:12:10,492 It focuses on mental health, 3705 02:12:10,492 --> 02:12:13,795 how we treat others, how we 3706 02:12:13,795 --> 02:12:14,630 treat ourselves and after that 3707 02:12:14,630 --> 02:12:18,230 level we look to the reality 3708 02:12:20,102 --> 02:12:20,936 -based leadership program which 3709 02:12:20,936 --> 02:12:22,504 we focus on taking all the 3710 02:12:22,504 --> 02:12:26,104 tools we learned from the first 3711 02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:27,609 two levels and taking it to the 3712 02:12:27,609 --> 02:12:28,477 next level so you can be 3713 02:12:28,477 --> 02:12:28,911 leadership and management 3714 02:12:28,911 --> 02:12:30,746 within the office. 3715 02:12:30,746 --> 02:12:33,746 On the systems are modeled 3716 02:12:38,453 --> 02:12:39,155 after colin powell's addition 3717 02:12:39,155 --> 02:12:39,922 program and we have modified it 3718 02:12:39,922 --> 02:12:40,155 to be specialized to our 3719 02:12:40,155 --> 02:12:40,990 agency. 3720 02:12:40,990 --> 02:12:43,990 For fiscal responsibility we do 3721 02:12:46,929 --> 02:12:47,929 an annual audit of all our 3722 02:12:47,929 --> 02:12:48,196 expenditures to analyze their 3723 02:12:48,196 --> 02:12:48,930 necessity. 3724 02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:50,399 After six years we 3725 02:12:50,399 --> 02:12:52,268 independently $5 million in 3726 02:12:52,268 --> 02:12:53,268 grants. 3727 02:12:53,268 --> 02:12:56,268 We used those grants to 3728 02:12:57,672 --> 02:12:58,440 completely outfit seals on 3729 02:12:58,440 --> 02:12:59,308 wheels for the preservation of 3730 02:12:59,308 --> 02:13:01,708 our shared history and 3731 02:13:02,377 --> 02:13:02,911 self-funded the renovation of 3732 02:13:02,911 --> 02:13:05,911 our space in the judicial 3733 02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,160 center. 3734 02:13:12,755 --> 02:13:14,422 This year we added transparency 3735 02:13:14,422 --> 02:13:14,489 as an office focus 3736 02:13:14,489 --> 02:13:16,489 . 3737 02:13:16,525 --> 02:13:19,525 We are primarily focused on 3738 02:13:23,731 --> 02:13:23,899 better data analysis 3739 02:13:23,899 --> 02:13:24,499 . 3740 02:13:24,499 --> 02:13:25,367 We are analyzing service 3741 02:13:25,367 --> 02:13:25,868 trends, community needs, 3742 02:13:25,868 --> 02:13:26,669 community usage. 3743 02:13:26,669 --> 02:13:27,168 Again, giving efficiency audits 3744 02:13:27,168 --> 02:13:29,568 both in process and 3745 02:13:32,807 --> 02:13:33,475 expenditure. 3746 02:13:33,475 --> 02:13:34,376 We are looking at national 3747 02:13:34,376 --> 02:13:35,310 trends that we are seeing in 3748 02:13:35,310 --> 02:13:36,278 the courts and also evaluating 3749 02:13:36,278 --> 02:13:36,979 court case volume and how we 3750 02:13:36,979 --> 02:13:39,979 can best and most efficiently 3751 02:13:42,517 --> 02:13:43,519 handled that. 3752 02:13:43,519 --> 02:13:43,985 So for the new mandates, this 3753 02:13:43,985 --> 02:13:46,385 is an interesting one. 3754 02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:48,990 The 3755 02:13:48,990 --> 02:13:49,724 rules of the supreme court of 3756 02:13:49,724 --> 02:13:52,124 virginia dictate the operation 3757 02:13:56,164 --> 02:13:57,165 of the circuit court and the 3758 02:13:57,165 --> 02:13:57,799 supreme court has modified 3759 02:13:57,799 --> 02:13:58,667 their rules in the past year to 3760 02:13:58,667 --> 02:14:00,667 allow self represented 3761 02:14:06,141 --> 02:14:07,141 litigants to e-file the self 3762 02:14:07,141 --> 02:14:08,143 represented litigants had 3763 02:14:08,143 --> 02:14:09,144 previously been excluded from 3764 02:14:09,144 --> 02:14:10,145 e-filing or however, the 3765 02:14:10,145 --> 02:14:10,746 systems we use which are 3766 02:14:10,746 --> 02:14:11,646 provided by the supreme court 3767 02:14:11,646 --> 02:14:15,246 of virginia do not allow for 3768 02:14:18,253 --> 02:14:19,860 self represented litigants to 3769 02:14:19,860 --> 02:14:19,688 e-file and indications are or 3770 02:14:19,688 --> 02:14:20,655 representations are there 3771 02:14:20,655 --> 02:14:21,156 aren't any plans to include 3772 02:14:21,156 --> 02:14:23,291 this in the future. 3773 02:14:23,291 --> 02:14:24,193 So we will talk about the cure 3774 02:14:24,193 --> 02:14:27,793 for this issue a little later 3775 02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:32,400 in the presentation. 3776 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:32,634 We also have a legislative 3777 02:14:32,634 --> 02:14:33,468 mandate. 3778 02:14:33,468 --> 02:14:34,102 Amended automatic ceiling of 3779 02:14:34,102 --> 02:14:34,703 certain criminal cases from 3780 02:14:34,703 --> 02:14:37,103 1986 until the present about 3781 02:14:45,780 --> 02:14:46,715 automatic in quotation marks 3782 02:14:46,715 --> 02:14:47,282 because the code calls it 3783 02:14:47,282 --> 02:14:48,316 automatic and it is for the 3784 02:14:48,316 --> 02:14:48,517 citizen but someone has got to 3785 02:14:48,517 --> 02:14:49,284 do it. 3786 02:14:49,284 --> 02:14:50,285 We begin preparation for the 3787 02:14:50,285 --> 02:14:51,860 significant undertaking in 3788 02:14:51,860 --> 02:14:52,190 fiscal 23 with the help of 3789 02:14:52,190 --> 02:14:55,190 smart budgeting by the county 3790 02:14:55,624 --> 02:14:56,291 to accelerate our final 3791 02:14:56,291 --> 02:14:58,691 digitization of our historic 3792 02:14:59,610 --> 02:14:59,160 case files 3793 02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,128 . 3794 02:15:00,128 --> 02:15:01,896 The 100 percent digitization 3795 02:15:01,896 --> 02:15:05,496 would be complete in MAY at 26 3796 02:15:11,906 --> 02:15:12,640 which is ahead of schedule a 3797 02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:13,407 right on time for this mandate 3798 02:15:13,407 --> 02:15:13,975 her glass to the state 3799 02:15:13,975 --> 02:15:14,642 compensation board in 3800 02:15:14,642 --> 02:15:15,510 conjunction with the board of 3801 02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:16,411 county supervisors funded a 3802 02:15:16,411 --> 02:15:16,844 full-time equivalent employee 3803 02:15:16,844 --> 02:15:17,780 who could fill that 3804 02:15:17,780 --> 02:15:19,780 position 3805 02:15:24,552 --> 02:15:25,587 almost immediately. 3806 02:15:25,587 --> 02:15:26,588 She is already training for the 3807 02:15:26,588 --> 02:15:27,255 project to begin JANUARY 1 but 3808 02:15:27,255 --> 02:15:31,455 we are ready to hit the ground 3809 02:15:31,692 --> 02:15:32,694 running when it comes. 3810 02:15:32,694 --> 02:15:33,395 If there is no disruption of 3811 02:15:33,395 --> 02:15:34,196 operations I have learned to 3812 02:15:34,196 --> 02:15:34,762 say that since covid took no 3813 02:15:34,762 --> 02:15:35,530 additional needs are 3814 02:15:35,530 --> 02:15:37,930 anticipated to achieve this 3815 02:15:38,266 --> 02:15:40,266 mandate. 3816 02:15:41,903 --> 02:15:44,903 So service level trends your 3817 02:15:49,110 --> 02:15:50,780 current jury pool is continuing 3818 02:15:50,780 --> 02:15:51,460 to grow which means the amount 3819 02:15:51,460 --> 02:15:51,413 of postage it costs to send out 3820 02:15:51,413 --> 02:15:51,879 the jury 3821 02:15:51,879 --> 02:15:52,713 questionnaires 3822 02:15:52,713 --> 02:15:52,881 continues to grow. 3823 02:15:52,881 --> 02:15:54,282 Ou can 3824 02:15:54,282 --> 02:15:55,183 see from the graph the blue 3825 02:15:55,183 --> 02:15:57,919 line is the number of jury 3826 02:15:57,919 --> 02:15:58,252 questionnaires we need to send 3827 02:15:58,252 --> 02:15:58,853 out each year. 3828 02:15:58,853 --> 02:16:01,853 During that time period are 3829 02:16:09,364 --> 02:16:10,264 posted budget has been static 3830 02:16:10,264 --> 02:16:10,932 there's been no growth in that 3831 02:16:10,932 --> 02:16:11,833 budget line hook I will share 3832 02:16:11,833 --> 02:16:12,734 with you how we have been able 3833 02:16:12,734 --> 02:16:13,301 to make up the shortfall and 3834 02:16:13,301 --> 02:16:14,301 what we need to do for the 3835 02:16:14,301 --> 02:16:16,701 future to prevent shortfall. 3836 02:16:18,472 --> 02:16:19,407 We have seen rapid growth in 3837 02:16:19,407 --> 02:16:19,907 the area of probate 3838 02:16:19,907 --> 02:16:21,907 administration. 3839 02:16:28,783 --> 02:16:29,750 We did anticipate this growth. 3840 02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:30,151 We have been talking about it a 3841 02:16:30,151 --> 02:16:30,885 few years. 3842 02:16:30,885 --> 02:16:31,786 This year is the first year we 3843 02:16:31,786 --> 02:16:35,986 saw a real spite, which is what 3844 02:16:37,925 --> 02:16:38,426 I consider a spike. 3845 02:16:38,426 --> 02:16:39,600 14 percent. 3846 02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:39,994 It's attributable in my opinion 3847 02:16:39,994 --> 02:16:40,728 into the aging population, our 3848 02:16:40,728 --> 02:16:41,429 population growth. 3849 02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:43,829 We are seeing increased 3850 02:16:44,231 --> 02:16:44,699 property values an increase 3851 02:16:44,699 --> 02:16:45,399 asset complexity. 3852 02:16:45,399 --> 02:16:46,334 We have also seen an increase 3853 02:16:46,334 --> 02:16:47,368 in popularity of estate 3854 02:16:47,368 --> 02:16:48,303 planning which is a wonderful 3855 02:16:48,303 --> 02:16:50,971 thing our people are planning 3856 02:16:50,971 --> 02:16:51,940 for their future. 3857 02:16:51,940 --> 02:16:52,540 But it does more frequently 3858 02:16:52,540 --> 02:16:54,540 require court intervention. 3859 02:16:58,913 --> 02:16:59,514 We 3860 02:16:59,514 --> 02:17:00,280 have also seen rapid growth 3861 02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:01,282 this year in our self 3862 02:17:01,282 --> 02:17:01,782 represented litigants center 3863 02:17:01,782 --> 02:17:02,717 and law library. 3864 02:17:02,717 --> 02:17:04,717 Specifically 30 percent 3865 02:17:09,256 --> 02:17:10,570 increase in the number of 3866 02:17:10,570 --> 02:17:10,692 residents served. 3867 02:17:10,692 --> 02:17:11,325 I attribute this primarily to 3868 02:17:11,325 --> 02:17:14,325 the fact we expanded the 3869 02:17:18,432 --> 02:17:19,267 services we provide in the self 3870 02:17:19,267 --> 02:17:20,301 represented litigants entered a 3871 02:17:20,301 --> 02:17:21,350 knot just include circuit court 3872 02:17:21,350 --> 02:17:21,769 but include general district 3873 02:17:21,769 --> 02:17:24,769 court in the juvenile and 3874 02:17:31,780 --> 02:17:31,745 relations courts. 3875 02:17:31,745 --> 02:17:32,580 The clerks of those courts as 3876 02:17:32,580 --> 02:17:33,247 well as the chief judges of 3877 02:17:33,247 --> 02:17:34,148 those courts have been very 3878 02:17:34,148 --> 02:17:35,583 helpful in allowing us to do 3879 02:17:35,583 --> 02:17:36,350 that and maintain accurate 3880 02:17:36,350 --> 02:17:39,350 exemplars and resources so we 3881 02:17:44,580 --> 02:17:45,590 are happy to support that. 3882 02:17:45,590 --> 02:17:45,827 That does not result in 3883 02:17:45,827 --> 02:17:46,326 additional cost. 3884 02:17:46,326 --> 02:17:47,600 Where we are seeing the 3885 02:17:47,600 --> 02:17:50,660 additional cost need is in the 3886 02:17:51,899 --> 02:17:52,166 resources not available 3887 02:17:52,166 --> 02:17:53,660 digitally. 3888 02:17:53,660 --> 02:17:54,680 there are some legal resources 3889 02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:57,680 only available in print and 3890 02:17:58,573 --> 02:17:59,307 their resources used regularly. 3891 02:17:59,307 --> 02:18:00,574 So because of the nature of the 3892 02:18:00,574 --> 02:18:04,174 law we are required to update 3893 02:18:04,579 --> 02:18:05,379 or even replace the volumes 3894 02:18:05,379 --> 02:18:05,879 every year and these are 3895 02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:06,880 expensive books. 3896 02:18:06,880 --> 02:18:09,880 Think back to buying textbooks 3897 02:18:11,485 --> 02:18:12,920 for school. 3898 02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:14,210 There expensive and the only 3899 02:18:14,210 --> 02:18:14,655 increased in cost over the last 3900 02:18:14,655 --> 02:18:15,489 three years by 20 percent which 3901 02:18:15,489 --> 02:18:16,323 is attributable not just to the 3902 02:18:16,323 --> 02:18:17,124 increase in the cost of goods 3903 02:18:17,124 --> 02:18:20,724 but the rapid increase in the 3904 02:18:31,672 --> 02:18:32,672 cost of postage. 3905 02:18:32,672 --> 02:18:33,173 So here is an overview of the 3906 02:18:33,173 --> 02:18:33,341 budget initiatives. 3907 02:18:33,341 --> 02:18:34,308 Estore 3908 02:18:34,308 --> 02:18:35,308 annual access fees revenue. 3909 02:18:35,308 --> 02:18:36,277 The e-filing system upgrade 3910 02:18:36,277 --> 02:18:37,177 drupal expansion postage, jury 3911 02:18:37,177 --> 02:18:37,812 questionnaire return postage 3912 02:18:37,812 --> 02:18:40,812 self represented law center in 3913 02:18:40,815 --> 02:18:42,815 law library. 3914 02:18:54,328 --> 02:18:55,295 We will go into each one. 3915 02:18:55,295 --> 02:18:55,862 The first is to restore the 3916 02:18:55,862 --> 02:18:56,960 excess fees revenue to the 3917 02:18:56,960 --> 02:18:56,797 county. 3918 02:18:56,797 --> 02:18:56,864 This is the second request. 3919 02:18:56,864 --> 02:18:57,898 T 3920 02:18:57,898 --> 02:18:58,999 has been included in the 2026 3921 02:18:58,999 --> 02:18:59,800 county legislative priorities 3922 02:18:59,800 --> 02:19:00,200 thank you. 3923 02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:00,801 I appreciate that. 3924 02:19:00,801 --> 02:19:03,801 Excess fees are those fees 3925 02:19:12,980 --> 02:19:13,981 collected in excess of her 3926 02:19:13,981 --> 02:19:14,614 state allotted budget. 3927 02:19:14,614 --> 02:19:15,482 Those excess fees, two thirds 3928 02:19:15,482 --> 02:19:16,483 of the fees are supposed to 3929 02:19:16,483 --> 02:19:17,118 come back to the locality as 3930 02:19:17,118 --> 02:19:19,118 unrestricted revenue. 3931 02:19:24,910 --> 02:19:24,825 That revenue goes to the county 3932 02:19:24,825 --> 02:19:25,659 to you to use as you deem fit. 3933 02:19:25,659 --> 02:19:26,593 It does not go back to the 3934 02:19:26,593 --> 02:19:27,294 clerks office, he goes to the 3935 02:19:27,294 --> 02:19:28,950 county coffers and we will be 3936 02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:28,795 working in richmond 3937 02:19:28,795 --> 02:19:30,598 side-by-side this year to try 3938 02:19:30,598 --> 02:19:32,998 to get that restored. 3939 02:19:35,168 --> 02:19:36,200 Next we have the e-filing 3940 02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:38,402 system for self represented 3941 02:19:39,673 --> 02:19:39,806 litigants 3942 02:19:39,806 --> 02:19:40,741 . 3943 02:19:40,741 --> 02:19:41,442 As I mentioned, the supreme 3944 02:19:41,442 --> 02:19:44,244 court has modified the rules to 3945 02:19:44,244 --> 02:19:45,245 allow e-filing for self 3946 02:19:45,245 --> 02:19:46,813 represented litigants as well 3947 02:19:46,813 --> 02:19:46,880 as attorneys 3948 02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:48,880 . 3949 02:19:49,449 --> 02:19:50,451 We identified a compliant 3950 02:19:50,451 --> 02:19:52,451 e-filing service currently 3951 02:20:03,531 --> 02:20:04,665 functioning in some other 3952 02:20:04,665 --> 02:20:04,898 localities comparable to prince 3953 02:20:04,898 --> 02:20:05,733 william. 3954 02:20:05,733 --> 02:20:06,700 It is working effectively. 3955 02:20:06,700 --> 02:20:07,568 It's about $25,000 but it would 3956 02:20:07,568 --> 02:20:08,535 be a seamless transition and 3957 02:20:08,535 --> 02:20:09,636 allow self represented 3958 02:20:09,636 --> 02:20:10,360 litigants and attorneys to 3959 02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:11,380 e-file equally. 3960 02:20:11,380 --> 02:20:11,905 It is also just a better, more 3961 02:20:11,905 --> 02:20:13,730 streamlined system. 3962 02:20:13,730 --> 02:20:15,730 It is more 3963 02:20:16,277 --> 02:20:18,277 recently created. 3964 02:20:19,179 --> 02:20:22,149 The jury pool expansion postage 3965 02:20:22,149 --> 02:20:22,249 increase 3966 02:20:22,249 --> 02:20:24,249 . 3967 02:20:24,517 --> 02:20:27,287 Our jury pool continues to 3968 02:20:27,287 --> 02:20:29,287 expand. 3969 02:20:31,892 --> 02:20:32,893 The way the jury process starts 3970 02:20:32,893 --> 02:20:33,893 is the chief judge orders 3971 02:20:33,893 --> 02:20:34,661 questionnaires be sent out to 3972 02:20:34,661 --> 02:20:34,728 residents 3973 02:20:34,728 --> 02:20:36,728 . 3974 02:20:41,235 --> 02:20:41,902 Those questionnaires ask 3975 02:20:41,902 --> 02:20:42,869 questions that would inform us 3976 02:20:42,869 --> 02:20:43,636 if someone is qualified to 3977 02:20:43,636 --> 02:20:44,604 serve on a jury or not. 3978 02:20:44,604 --> 02:20:47,541 Are you over 18, are you a 3979 02:20:47,541 --> 02:20:48,541 citizen of the united states, 3980 02:20:48,541 --> 02:20:48,942 are you a resident of the 31st 3981 02:20:48,942 --> 02:20:50,942 judicial circuit. 3982 02:20:51,110 --> 02:20:53,713 The clerk then collects all the 3983 02:20:53,713 --> 02:20:56,113 answers to those questionnaires 3984 02:20:56,416 --> 02:20:58,816 and appoints jury commissioners 3985 02:21:02,956 --> 02:21:03,590 to look at all the responses 3986 02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:04,491 and decide is this person 3987 02:21:04,491 --> 02:21:06,693 qualified or is this person not 3988 02:21:06,693 --> 02:21:07,327 qualified. 3989 02:21:07,327 --> 02:21:08,161 If someone says I'm 17 years 3990 02:21:08,161 --> 02:21:10,897 old they go into the 3991 02:21:10,897 --> 02:21:11,999 nonqualified pile. 3992 02:21:11,999 --> 02:21:14,399 All the questionnaires deemed 3993 02:21:15,168 --> 02:21:15,869 qualified 3994 02:21:15,869 --> 02:21:16,436 , supervisor stewart 3995 02:21:16,436 --> 02:21:16,737 knows well. 3996 02:21:16,737 --> 02:21:17,237 E served as a 3997 02:21:17,237 --> 02:21:19,237 jury commissioner. 3998 02:21:20,707 --> 02:21:20,941 All of those people get a 3999 02:21:20,941 --> 02:21:21,774 summons. 4000 02:21:21,774 --> 02:21:22,909 For some point in the year to 4001 02:21:22,909 --> 02:21:26,509 report to the circuit court for 4002 02:21:28,150 --> 02:21:28,682 duty. 4003 02:21:28,682 --> 02:21:29,149 That doesn't mean they won't 4004 02:21:29,149 --> 02:21:30,490 sit on the jury. 4005 02:21:30,490 --> 02:21:33,490 Doesn't mean they're going to 4006 02:21:34,187 --> 02:21:35,210 come to the court, but it means 4007 02:21:35,210 --> 02:21:35,588 they have to be at the rate he 4008 02:21:35,588 --> 02:21:35,789 should the need arise for 4009 02:21:35,789 --> 02:21:36,623 their 4010 02:21:36,623 --> 02:21:39,623 services on a given day. 4011 02:21:43,930 --> 02:21:44,531 They call us every monday or 4012 02:21:44,531 --> 02:21:45,498 every tuesday or every 4013 02:21:45,498 --> 02:21:46,400 wednesday that month or look at 4014 02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:46,933 our social media preferably. 4015 02:21:46,933 --> 02:21:47,199 And see do I have to 4016 02:21:47,199 --> 02:21:47,434 report this 4017 02:21:47,434 --> 02:21:48,134 day? 4018 02:21:48,134 --> 02:21:51,404 We are faced with quite a lot 4019 02:21:51,404 --> 02:21:52,339 of postage given the 4020 02:21:52,339 --> 02:21:53,740 questionnaires have to be 4021 02:21:53,740 --> 02:21:54,407 mailed. 4022 02:21:54,407 --> 02:21:58,700 The jury summons have to be 4023 02:21:58,211 --> 02:22:01,211 mailed and sometimes there is 4024 02:22:02,949 --> 02:22:03,617 back-and-forth to make up that 4025 02:22:03,617 --> 02:22:04,500 shortfall we have I'm looking 4026 02:22:04,500 --> 02:22:06,500 for $73,000. 4027 02:22:06,652 --> 02:22:07,386 Again 4028 02:22:07,386 --> 02:22:10,386 , this budget line is not 4029 02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:14,126 been increased in over 15 years 4030 02:22:14,126 --> 02:22:14,728 progressive 15 years because 4031 02:22:14,728 --> 02:22:15,661 that's the records we have. 4032 02:22:15,661 --> 02:22:19,861 I don't know the last time it 4033 02:22:22,535 --> 02:22:23,536 was updated but it is time. 4034 02:22:23,536 --> 02:22:27,136 Also related to postage is jury 4035 02:22:28,275 --> 02:22:29,275 questionnaire return postage. 4036 02:22:29,275 --> 02:22:30,430 Because we had a shortfall in 4037 02:22:30,430 --> 02:22:31,430 availability of postage sending 4038 02:22:31,430 --> 02:22:31,110 out the juror questionnaires 4039 02:22:31,110 --> 02:22:31,578 , 4040 02:22:31,578 --> 02:22:35,178 we had to make up the 4041 02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:37,617 shortfall. 4042 02:22:37,617 --> 02:22:38,251 The way we made up the 4043 02:22:38,251 --> 02:22:39,119 shortfall was we did not 4044 02:22:39,119 --> 02:22:42,119 provide return postage for our 4045 02:22:45,958 --> 02:22:46,325 residents to return there jury 4046 02:22:46,325 --> 02:22:46,926 questionnaires. 4047 02:22:46,926 --> 02:22:47,227 It did result in some 4048 02:22:47,227 --> 02:22:48,428 complaints. 4049 02:22:48,428 --> 02:22:50,730 More complaints than we would 4050 02:22:50,730 --> 02:22:51,764 have expected. 4051 02:22:51,764 --> 02:22:53,320 But in order to eliminate the 4052 02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:54,100 undue burden to the citizens to 4053 02:22:54,100 --> 02:22:57,700 provide what is almost a dollar 4054 02:22:58,704 --> 02:22:59,272 now for a stamp and frequently 4055 02:22:59,272 --> 02:23:00,206 the larger issue is the 4056 02:23:00,206 --> 02:23:01,307 inconvenience of going to buy a 4057 02:23:01,307 --> 02:23:02,309 stamp. 4058 02:23:02,309 --> 02:23:04,710 I'm asking we have a separate 4059 02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:07,710 line item $26,000 to cover that 4060 02:23:12,318 --> 02:23:13,153 return postage. 4061 02:23:13,153 --> 02:23:13,352 It would be business reply 4062 02:23:13,352 --> 02:23:14,153 mail. 4063 02:23:14,153 --> 02:23:15,454 We only pay for the postage we 4064 02:23:15,454 --> 02:23:19,540 use but our citizens would have 4065 02:23:24,130 --> 02:23:25,197 the option to do that. 4066 02:23:25,197 --> 02:23:26,132 Finally, our self represented 4067 02:23:26,132 --> 02:23:26,365 litigants center and law 4068 02:23:26,365 --> 02:23:26,966 library. 4069 02:23:26,966 --> 02:23:27,700 As I mentioned, the number 4070 02:23:27,700 --> 02:23:30,100 customer served increased by 30 4071 02:23:37,543 --> 02:23:38,444 percent this year. 4072 02:23:38,444 --> 02:23:39,111 Our services have expanded to 4073 02:23:39,111 --> 02:23:39,445 include all three levels of 4074 02:23:39,445 --> 02:23:40,480 court. 4075 02:23:40,480 --> 02:23:41,130 The cost to update and replace 4076 02:23:41,130 --> 02:23:41,680 the print materials has 4077 02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:42,448 increased by 20 percent over 4078 02:23:42,448 --> 02:23:43,483 the last three years. 4079 02:23:43,483 --> 02:23:44,150 We are looking to make that on. 4080 02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:45,170 I should add that this is one 4081 02:23:45,170 --> 02:23:46,190 of the areas where we are 4082 02:23:46,190 --> 02:23:48,190 continually evaluating the 4083 02:23:50,220 --> 02:23:50,790 expenditure because it is my 4084 02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:52,392 hope the printed materials that 4085 02:23:52,392 --> 02:23:53,726 are quite costly will 4086 02:23:53,726 --> 02:23:54,393 eventually be available by 4087 02:23:54,393 --> 02:23:54,460 electronic subscription 4088 02:23:54,460 --> 02:23:56,460 . 4089 02:23:57,463 --> 02:23:59,365 So every year we audit the 4090 02:23:59,365 --> 02:24:00,300 collection to see can we shift 4091 02:24:00,300 --> 02:24:03,300 more over to the electronic 4092 02:24:04,737 --> 02:24:05,471 site 4093 02:24:05,471 --> 02:24:09,710 , but as of right now this 4094 02:24:09,909 --> 02:24:10,610 is where we stand. 4095 02:24:10,610 --> 02:24:13,610 Again, that's our summary of 4096 02:24:14,460 --> 02:24:14,647 the request. 4097 02:24:14,647 --> 02:24:16,749 Thank you again for having me 4098 02:24:16,749 --> 02:24:17,450 here to speak with you. 4099 02:24:17,450 --> 02:24:19,151 Thank you to those of you who 4100 02:24:19,151 --> 02:24:21,151 visited our office 4101 02:24:25,157 --> 02:24:26,920 . 4102 02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:26,726 You have almost 65 county 4103 02:24:26,726 --> 02:24:27,627 employees out in our office and 4104 02:24:27,627 --> 02:24:31,130 if you haven't stop by I am 4105 02:24:31,130 --> 02:24:31,497 sure we would be happy to meet 4106 02:24:31,497 --> 02:24:32,131 with you. 4107 02:24:32,131 --> 02:24:32,998 And I hope you will join us 4108 02:24:32,998 --> 02:24:33,632 saturday I gainesville 4109 02:24:33,632 --> 02:24:36,320 haymarket library from 10:00to 4110 02:24:39,172 --> 02:24:39,872 1:00for our sales on wheels. 4111 02:24:39,872 --> 02:24:42,272 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 4112 02:24:51,817 --> 02:24:52,718 for coming and thank you for 4113 02:24:52,718 --> 02:24:53,485 everything your office does. 4114 02:24:53,485 --> 02:24:54,386 I love seeing when you guys pop 4115 02:24:54,386 --> 02:24:55,421 up somewhere like montclair 4116 02:24:55,421 --> 02:24:56,222 library and all the services 4117 02:24:56,222 --> 02:24:56,889 you are able to provide. 4118 02:24:56,889 --> 02:24:57,890 Supervisor franklin? 4119 02:24:57,890 --> 02:24:58,323 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4120 02:24:58,323 --> 02:24:59,225 thank you. 4121 02:24:59,225 --> 02:24:59,925 Thank you for the presentation 4122 02:24:59,925 --> 02:25:00,459 and thank you for the tour I 4123 02:25:00,459 --> 02:25:01,326 took recently. 4124 02:25:01,326 --> 02:25:01,994 I got a lot more insight into 4125 02:25:01,994 --> 02:25:02,328 how everyone is doing their 4126 02:25:02,328 --> 02:25:02,928 best 4127 02:25:02,928 --> 02:25:03,362 work together within our 4128 02:25:03,362 --> 02:25:05,362 court system. 4129 02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:07,233 A quick question. 4130 02:25:07,233 --> 02:25:09,633 On slide 16 were mentioned 4131 02:25:10,636 --> 02:25:11,237 about the number of trials 4132 02:25:11,237 --> 02:25:11,637 requiring jurors to being 4133 02:25:11,637 --> 02:25:12,738 summoned. 4134 02:25:12,738 --> 02:25:14,173 It's a that is in decline 4135 02:25:14,173 --> 02:25:16,173 . 4136 02:25:17,744 --> 02:25:21,470 Is that for civil or criminal? 4137 02:25:21,470 --> 02:25:21,980 >> we don't break it out by 4138 02:25:21,980 --> 02:25:22,648 civil took a mental pick these 4139 02:25:22,648 --> 02:25:25,417 are statistics that come out 4140 02:25:25,417 --> 02:25:25,717 our jury division 4141 02:25:25,717 --> 02:25:26,418 . 4142 02:25:26,418 --> 02:25:29,355 When we have a jury trial on 4143 02:25:29,355 --> 02:25:30,220 the docket, if it hasn't been 4144 02:25:30,220 --> 02:25:32,591 resolved prior to the night 4145 02:25:32,591 --> 02:25:33,492 before the trial we have to 4146 02:25:33,492 --> 02:25:37,920 summon the jurors to come in 4147 02:25:40,966 --> 02:25:41,600 here sometimes the case might 4148 02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:42,467 resolve that morning. 4149 02:25:42,467 --> 02:25:43,469 Sometimes it might resolve 4150 02:25:43,469 --> 02:25:44,103 later in the morning, but we 4151 02:25:44,103 --> 02:25:44,970 have to have the jurors 4152 02:25:44,970 --> 02:25:48,570 available in case the case goes 4153 02:25:52,478 --> 02:25:52,745 forward 4154 02:25:52,745 --> 02:25:53,745 . 4155 02:25:53,745 --> 02:25:54,460 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4156 02:25:54,460 --> 02:25:54,380 understood. 4157 02:25:54,380 --> 02:25:55,213 Thank you. 4158 02:25:55,213 --> 02:25:56,215 MR. Shorter, if someone can 4159 02:25:56,215 --> 02:25:57,216 remind me with regard to the 4160 02:25:57,216 --> 02:26:00,816 annual excess fees if that is 4161 02:26:04,690 --> 02:26:05,570 in our legislative agenda 4162 02:26:05,570 --> 02:26:05,390 . 4163 02:26:05,390 --> 02:26:06,240 I think it is. 4164 02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:06,191 > it is included. 4165 02:26:06,191 --> 02:26:07,126 E work 4166 02:26:07,126 --> 02:26:08,227 with the clerks office months 4167 02:26:08,227 --> 02:26:08,693 ago to include the language in 4168 02:26:08,693 --> 02:26:09,695 the agenda. 4169 02:26:09,695 --> 02:26:10,496 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I 4170 02:26:10,496 --> 02:26:13,365 know we talked a little bit 4171 02:26:13,365 --> 02:26:14,299 about it on obviously the state 4172 02:26:14,299 --> 02:26:15,334 gets a lot of money when they 4173 02:26:15,334 --> 02:26:15,701 are not returning it back to 4174 02:26:15,701 --> 02:26:16,735 the counties. 4175 02:26:16,735 --> 02:26:17,269 We will do as much as we can to 4176 02:26:17,269 --> 02:26:20,269 push for that within our 4177 02:26:21,473 --> 02:26:22,574 delegation so thank you. 4178 02:26:22,574 --> 02:26:23,108 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 4179 02:26:23,108 --> 02:26:25,108 Supervisor bailey. 4180 02:26:28,547 --> 02:26:29,148 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: 4181 02:26:29,148 --> 02:26:30,480 thank you MADAM Chair. 4182 02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:30,482 Thank you for your 4183 02:26:30,482 --> 02:26:31,183 presentation. 4184 02:26:31,183 --> 02:26:32,510 You and the sheriff did a great 4185 02:26:32,510 --> 02:26:34,253 job making sure we totally 4186 02:26:34,253 --> 02:26:34,620 understand what you do and why 4187 02:26:34,620 --> 02:26:35,487 you need. 4188 02:26:35,487 --> 02:26:35,821 i really appreciate both 4189 02:26:35,821 --> 02:26:37,122 presentations. 4190 02:26:37,122 --> 02:26:39,122 My question to 4191 02:26:41,326 --> 02:26:44,926 you is you are a very 4192 02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:49,134 innovative in securing grants 4193 02:26:49,134 --> 02:26:49,735 . 4194 02:26:49,735 --> 02:26:51,904 Do you foresee, as you go 4195 02:26:51,904 --> 02:26:54,304 forward, that being interrupted 4196 02:26:55,708 --> 02:26:56,575 at all, if you will, in the 4197 02:26:56,575 --> 02:26:57,176 plan you have, the strategic 4198 02:26:57,176 --> 02:26:57,676 plan you have for your 4199 02:26:57,676 --> 02:26:59,676 department? 4200 02:27:02,810 --> 02:27:03,382 >> so we evaluated all the 4201 02:27:03,382 --> 02:27:06,382 grants we received right now. 4202 02:27:06,718 --> 02:27:09,718 He recurring grants we have 4203 02:27:09,821 --> 02:27:12,591 that are virtually zero risk of 4204 02:27:12,591 --> 02:27:14,591 going away. 4205 02:27:16,828 --> 02:27:17,462 The restoration grants that we 4206 02:27:17,462 --> 02:27:17,862 get from the library of 4207 02:27:17,862 --> 02:27:19,862 virginia 4208 02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:25,170 we used to take books. 4209 02:27:25,170 --> 02:27:25,837 We refer to them as our ancient 4210 02:27:25,837 --> 02:27:29,437 books, but books from the early 4211 02:27:29,574 --> 02:27:30,208 1700s, even early 1800s that 4212 02:27:30,208 --> 02:27:31,760 are sort of deteriorating. 4213 02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:33,412 The library of virginia we can 4214 02:27:33,412 --> 02:27:37,120 apply to for grants to restore 4215 02:27:39,351 --> 02:27:39,518 those books pick those grants 4216 02:27:39,518 --> 02:27:40,352 are? 4217 02:27:40,352 --> 02:27:43,622 Right now but we don't plan to 4218 02:27:43,622 --> 02:27:44,522 rely on those grants. 4219 02:27:44,522 --> 02:27:48,722 Those are nice to have but if 4220 02:27:54,699 --> 02:27:55,800 we don't have them the book is 4221 02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:56,000 going to have to wait another 4222 02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:56,702 year. 4223 02:27:56,702 --> 02:27:57,502 It's not a question of having a 4224 02:27:57,502 --> 02:27:58,503 shortfall of the budget. 4225 02:27:58,503 --> 02:27:59,404 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: 4226 02:27:59,404 --> 02:28:00,380 another question is in 4227 02:28:00,380 --> 02:28:01,730 reference to that, are you 4228 02:28:01,730 --> 02:28:01,907 looking to digitize any of your 4229 02:28:01,907 --> 02:28:05,507 documents in the office to make 4230 02:28:07,513 --> 02:28:07,746 sure they are restored in that 4231 02:28:07,746 --> 02:28:08,346 regard? 4232 02:28:08,346 --> 02:28:10,115 That is going to be a cost as 4233 02:28:10,115 --> 02:28:10,949 well. 4234 02:28:10,949 --> 02:28:14,549 >> as of MAY we will be 100 4235 02:28:20,125 --> 02:28:20,993 percent digitized the 4236 02:28:20,993 --> 02:28:21,526 digitization of the historic 4237 02:28:21,526 --> 02:28:21,794 books is a little more 4238 02:28:21,794 --> 02:28:22,494 difficult. 4239 02:28:22,494 --> 02:28:23,996 When digitization first 4240 02:28:23,996 --> 02:28:24,663 started, we were doing it by 4241 02:28:24,663 --> 02:28:25,764 photograph because they were 4242 02:28:25,764 --> 02:28:28,164 browned, very brittle books. 4243 02:28:31,837 --> 02:28:32,437 Ut when we have a grant or 4244 02:28:32,437 --> 02:28:33,271 available funds to send it to 4245 02:28:33,271 --> 02:28:35,106 an actual restore, they 4246 02:28:35,106 --> 02:28:35,840 completely diss and symbol the 4247 02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:39,440 book and they do a high-quality 4248 02:28:39,811 --> 02:28:43,411 scam of every single page and 4249 02:28:49,187 --> 02:28:50,222 then bind that into a book. 4250 02:28:50,222 --> 02:28:51,223 If you didn't see downside to 4251 02:28:51,223 --> 02:28:51,789 know this was a new book when 4252 02:28:51,789 --> 02:28:53,425 you opened it up you would 4253 02:28:53,425 --> 02:28:53,691 thank you were looking at the 4254 02:28:53,691 --> 02:28:54,358 original. 4255 02:28:54,358 --> 02:28:55,193 So we do have digital images of 4256 02:28:55,193 --> 02:28:55,694 everything. 4257 02:28:55,694 --> 02:28:58,694 They are not the best. 4258 02:29:02,467 --> 02:29:03,235 We use the grant monies to make 4259 02:29:03,235 --> 02:29:03,669 them the best and restore the 4260 02:29:03,669 --> 02:29:04,436 physical book. 4261 02:29:04,436 --> 02:29:05,236 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: 4262 02:29:05,236 --> 02:29:06,238 the last question, if I MAY. 4263 02:29:06,238 --> 02:29:07,339 For the expungement clinics and 4264 02:29:07,339 --> 02:29:08,639 they been quite successful 4265 02:29:08,639 --> 02:29:11,639 since the inception of them 4266 02:29:13,578 --> 02:29:14,513 starting the program. 4267 02:29:14,513 --> 02:29:18,113 How do you see that program 4268 02:29:21,519 --> 02:29:22,520 expanding across the county? 4269 02:29:22,520 --> 02:29:23,154 >> we have had other elected 4270 02:29:23,154 --> 02:29:26,910 officials reach out to hold 4271 02:29:26,910 --> 02:29:26,190 expungement fairs 4272 02:29:26,190 --> 02:29:27,892 . 4273 02:29:27,892 --> 02:29:32,920 I don't know if it is a 4274 02:29:33,310 --> 02:29:33,598 question of need but they just 4275 02:29:33,598 --> 02:29:36,598 haven't been as popular of 4276 02:29:38,236 --> 02:29:39,236 dumfries. 4277 02:29:39,236 --> 02:29:40,238 The town of dumfries does a 4278 02:29:40,238 --> 02:29:41,205 phenomenal job promoting the 4279 02:29:41,205 --> 02:29:42,574 event, draining the people 4280 02:29:42,574 --> 02:29:43,374 working the event, and making 4281 02:29:43,374 --> 02:29:43,875 sure we have the resources 4282 02:29:43,875 --> 02:29:44,508 to 4283 02:29:44,508 --> 02:29:47,508 successfully kick off the event 4284 02:29:58,590 --> 02:29:59,590 . 4285 02:29:59,590 --> 02:30:00,458 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: 4286 02:30:00,458 --> 02:30:01,192 thank you MADAM Chair. 4287 02:30:01,192 --> 02:30:01,759 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 4288 02:30:01,759 --> 02:30:02,694 i don't have any other 4289 02:30:02,694 --> 02:30:03,594 questions or comments and thank 4290 02:30:03,594 --> 02:30:03,795 you very much for coming here 4291 02:30:03,795 --> 02:30:04,562 today. 4292 02:30:04,562 --> 02:30:05,596 I also want to recognize we 4293 02:30:05,596 --> 02:30:06,230 have our chief public defender 4294 02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:09,830 tracy here with us as well 4295 02:30:14,339 --> 02:30:15,340 today. 4296 02:30:15,340 --> 02:30:17,410 >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM 4297 02:30:17,410 --> 02:30:17,676 Chair and members of the board. 4298 02:30:17,676 --> 02:30:18,343 And again, to our clerk jackie 4299 02:30:18,343 --> 02:30:18,676 smith, thank you for the 4300 02:30:18,676 --> 02:30:19,477 presentation. 4301 02:30:19,477 --> 02:30:21,145 The next presentation we have. 4302 02:30:21,145 --> 02:30:21,545 Really excited about this 4303 02:30:21,545 --> 02:30:22,180 presentation. 4304 02:30:22,180 --> 02:30:25,830 Rachel taylor from our office 4305 02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:26,284 of community safety will come 4306 02:30:26,284 --> 02:30:26,918 forward and talk about domestic 4307 02:30:26,918 --> 02:30:28,119 violence fatality review. 4308 02:30:28,119 --> 02:30:28,652 This is a long-standing 4309 02:30:28,652 --> 02:30:30,554 opportunity for us. 4310 02:30:30,554 --> 02:30:32,554 I think we 4311 02:30:34,392 --> 02:30:35,226 are going to have our deputy 4312 02:30:35,226 --> 02:30:37,626 county executive kick this 4313 02:30:39,798 --> 02:30:40,398 presentation off. 4314 02:30:40,398 --> 02:30:43,000 This was a very good 4315 02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:46,000 opportunity for the county to 4316 02:30:48,973 --> 02:30:49,474 have this review happening. 4317 02:30:49,474 --> 02:30:51,474 Spoke thank you. 4318 02:30:56,247 --> 02:30:57,248 Deputy county executive. 4319 02:30:57,248 --> 02:30:58,249 Thank you for the opportunity 4320 02:30:58,249 --> 02:30:59,500 to share and represents a 4321 02:30:59,500 --> 02:31:00,251 milestone in our work to build 4322 02:31:00,251 --> 02:31:00,618 a safer more resilient prince 4323 02:31:00,618 --> 02:31:02,618 william county. 4324 02:31:04,455 --> 02:31:05,890 We are proud to launch the 4325 02:31:05,890 --> 02:31:06,591 domestic violence review team. 4326 02:31:06,591 --> 02:31:07,258 Multidisciplinary initiative 4327 02:31:07,258 --> 02:31:10,258 rooted in their mission is 4328 02:31:10,594 --> 02:31:11,596 office a community safety. 4329 02:31:11,596 --> 02:31:13,996 Circumference and well-being as 4330 02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:23,107 a community we use lessons from 4331 02:31:23,107 --> 02:31:23,340 the fatality review is to spot 4332 02:31:23,340 --> 02:31:24,742 missed 4333 02:31:24,742 --> 02:31:26,742 warning signs. 4334 02:31:29,514 --> 02:31:30,682 Improve service coronation and 4335 02:31:30,682 --> 02:31:31,682 do more effective intervention 4336 02:31:31,682 --> 02:31:32,884 for individuals and families at 4337 02:31:32,884 --> 02:31:34,485 risk. 4338 02:31:34,485 --> 02:31:37,755 we are putting a process in 4339 02:31:37,755 --> 02:31:38,756 place to reduce breakdowns, 4340 02:31:38,756 --> 02:31:39,891 ensuring we learn what leads to 4341 02:31:39,891 --> 02:31:41,891 better outcomes 4342 02:31:45,696 --> 02:31:46,664 . 4343 02:31:46,664 --> 02:31:47,298 It is about improving the 4344 02:31:47,298 --> 02:31:47,832 entire community safety 4345 02:31:47,832 --> 02:31:48,966 ecosystem. 4346 02:31:48,966 --> 02:31:49,767 The review team is part of a 4347 02:31:49,767 --> 02:31:52,136 larger counsel focused on a 4348 02:31:52,136 --> 02:31:55,136 holistic approach to how we 4349 02:31:58,842 --> 02:31:59,844 deal with domestic violence. 4350 02:31:59,844 --> 02:32:00,845 And certainly reflects our 4351 02:32:00,845 --> 02:32:03,245 offices roll less convenient, 4352 02:32:09,153 --> 02:32:09,554 connector, and capacity builder 4353 02:32:09,554 --> 02:32:10,254 across systems. 4354 02:32:10,254 --> 02:32:10,554 With that it is my 4355 02:32:10,554 --> 02:32:11,550 pleasure to 4356 02:32:11,550 --> 02:32:11,756 introduce doctor. 4357 02:32:11,756 --> 02:32:12,623 [Name] And rachel taylor to 4358 02:32:12,623 --> 02:32:13,557 provide more detail about the 4359 02:32:13,557 --> 02:32:13,824 council, the team, and the 4360 02:32:13,824 --> 02:32:15,824 process. 4361 02:32:18,950 --> 02:32:19,960 Thank you. 4362 02:32:19,960 --> 02:32:21,265 >> thank you MADAM Chair and 4363 02:32:21,265 --> 02:32:22,266 members of the board. 4364 02:32:22,266 --> 02:32:24,135 I am the director of the office 4365 02:32:24,135 --> 02:32:26,135 I community safety. 4366 02:32:32,900 --> 02:32:33,100 As dan reiterated, the domestic 4367 02:32:33,100 --> 02:32:33,910 -- is part our offices larger 4368 02:32:33,910 --> 02:32:36,310 effort in creating data 4369 02:32:38,750 --> 02:32:39,116 informed pathways 4370 02:32:39,116 --> 02:32:40,170 . 4371 02:32:40,170 --> 02:32:40,717 Over the last year as MS. 4372 02:32:40,717 --> 02:32:41,585 Taylor will discuss, the data 4373 02:32:41,585 --> 02:32:42,286 we compiled really proves that 4374 02:32:42,286 --> 02:32:43,870 there is a need for further 4375 02:32:43,870 --> 02:32:45,870 development of coordinated 4376 02:32:49,493 --> 02:32:50,127 response pathways. 4377 02:32:50,127 --> 02:32:50,827 What we have been working on is 4378 02:32:50,827 --> 02:32:51,829 the improvement of the 4379 02:32:51,829 --> 02:32:52,396 ecosystem around prevention and 4380 02:32:52,396 --> 02:32:54,396 intervention. 4381 02:32:57,267 --> 02:32:58,268 As well as risk identification. 4382 02:32:58,268 --> 02:32:58,869 And so it is really just one 4383 02:32:58,869 --> 02:33:02,469 effort in the revival of our 4384 02:33:04,975 --> 02:33:05,509 domestic violence counsel which 4385 02:33:05,509 --> 02:33:06,377 leads as well as our 4386 02:33:06,377 --> 02:33:07,440 replacement triage work with 4387 02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:08,612 our agency partners. 4388 02:33:08,612 --> 02:33:11,120 remote positive MS. Taylor 4389 02:33:12,816 --> 02:33:14,816 . 4390 02:33:19,690 --> 02:33:20,157 >> thank you did dan alexander 4391 02:33:20,157 --> 02:33:20,390 and doctor. 4392 02:33:20,390 --> 02:33:21,158 [Name]. 4393 02:33:21,158 --> 02:33:22,930 I would like to thank the board 4394 02:33:22,930 --> 02:33:23,260 and MADAM Chair for the 4395 02:33:23,260 --> 02:33:23,293 opportunity to come and talk to 4396 02:33:23,293 --> 02:33:24,127 you today. 4397 02:33:24,127 --> 02:33:27,970 Domestic violence in the states 4398 02:33:27,970 --> 02:33:27,365 kills three people every day 4399 02:33:27,365 --> 02:33:28,332 . 4400 02:33:28,332 --> 02:33:29,332 It is also the leading cause of 4401 02:33:29,332 --> 02:33:31,368 death among pregnant women 4402 02:33:31,368 --> 02:33:31,535 across the nation 4403 02:33:31,535 --> 02:33:32,302 . 4404 02:33:32,302 --> 02:33:35,302 Nationally and account for one 4405 02:33:43,213 --> 02:33:44,810 in every five homicides that is 4406 02:33:44,810 --> 02:33:45,480 15 to 20 percent parking 4407 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:45,616 virginia the picture is a 4408 02:33:45,616 --> 02:33:46,550 little bit more bleak with 4409 02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:47,484 about 20 to 25 percent of all 4410 02:33:47,484 --> 02:33:48,850 homicides been linked to 4411 02:33:48,850 --> 02:33:48,719 domestic violence can print 4412 02:33:48,719 --> 02:33:52,319 with them county we find the 4413 02:33:54,391 --> 02:33:55,910 numbers to be even more serious 4414 02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:56,527 with an average of 30 percent 4415 02:33:56,527 --> 02:33:57,394 of all homicides attributed to 4416 02:33:57,394 --> 02:33:58,280 domestic violence broken 2024 4417 02:33:58,280 --> 02:34:00,300 that number was 45 percent. 4418 02:34:00,300 --> 02:34:02,699 Since 2020 ask who operates our 4419 02:34:02,699 --> 02:34:04,635 local domestic violence hotline 4420 02:34:04,635 --> 02:34:07,350 , since 2020 days on increase 4421 02:34:13,977 --> 02:34:14,644 in calls for help 500 percent. 4422 02:34:14,644 --> 02:34:15,646 At the office a community 4423 02:34:15,646 --> 02:34:16,479 safety we joined with community 4424 02:34:16,479 --> 02:34:17,448 partners addressing this 4425 02:34:17,448 --> 02:34:19,249 critical issue by reviving 4426 02:34:19,249 --> 02:34:19,849 domestic violence counsel in 4427 02:34:19,849 --> 02:34:20,516 conducting domestic violence 4428 02:34:20,516 --> 02:34:21,451 resource mapping, conducting a 4429 02:34:21,451 --> 02:34:22,486 gap analysis we identified 4430 02:34:22,486 --> 02:34:23,120 there are scarce resources for 4431 02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:25,520 victims within our county. 4432 02:34:26,256 --> 02:34:27,224 In particular concern is the 4433 02:34:27,224 --> 02:34:30,224 fact only emergency safe house 4434 02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:36,330 only has five bedrooms for a 4435 02:34:36,330 --> 02:34:36,901 population of 500,000 people. 4436 02:34:36,901 --> 02:34:37,834 We one forensic nurse for the 4437 02:34:37,834 --> 02:34:38,435 entire county that is also at 4438 02:34:38,435 --> 02:34:41,435 this time unable to serve 4439 02:34:42,473 --> 02:34:43,440 children so all children in the 4440 02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:44,507 vast majority of victims have 4441 02:34:44,507 --> 02:34:45,675 to go to neighboring counties 4442 02:34:45,675 --> 02:34:46,310 to get forensic exams. 4443 02:34:46,310 --> 02:34:49,910 The fatality review works is a 4444 02:35:01,691 --> 02:35:02,926 type of social autopsy for our 4445 02:35:02,926 --> 02:35:03,559 community. 4446 02:35:03,559 --> 02:35:04,228 It includes the analysis of 4447 02:35:04,228 --> 02:35:05,562 local homicides to identify 4448 02:35:05,562 --> 02:35:06,563 systems gaps, improve agency 4449 02:35:06,563 --> 02:35:07,230 collaboration, and strengthen 4450 02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:07,731 prevention efforts to reduce 4451 02:35:07,731 --> 02:35:08,732 future deaths. 4452 02:35:08,732 --> 02:35:09,700 Who's at risk in the community 4453 02:35:09,700 --> 02:35:10,233 are questions we would like to 4454 02:35:10,233 --> 02:35:11,680 have answered. 4455 02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:11,634 Want to know what is the 4456 02:35:11,634 --> 02:35:12,335 information related to 4457 02:35:12,335 --> 02:35:13,169 characteristics of violence in 4458 02:35:13,169 --> 02:35:14,171 the relationship of those 4459 02:35:14,171 --> 02:35:15,710 involved reported the red flags 4460 02:35:15,710 --> 02:35:15,839 for domestic violence within 4461 02:35:15,839 --> 02:35:16,740 prince william county what are 4462 02:35:16,740 --> 02:35:17,674 the resources in our community 4463 02:35:17,674 --> 02:35:17,908 more importantly, are they 4464 02:35:17,908 --> 02:35:18,741 working? 4465 02:35:18,741 --> 02:35:21,741 From these conclusions how does 4466 02:35:23,279 --> 02:35:24,130 the team prevent future 4467 02:35:24,130 --> 02:35:24,915 domestic violence fatalities 4468 02:35:24,915 --> 02:35:25,815 pick the work being done here 4469 02:35:25,815 --> 02:35:28,815 among our community has been 4470 02:35:38,795 --> 02:35:39,429 truly inspiring following 4471 02:35:39,429 --> 02:35:40,297 training provided by the 4472 02:35:40,297 --> 02:35:41,331 national domestic violence 4473 02:35:41,331 --> 02:35:42,298 fatality review initiative out 4474 02:35:42,298 --> 02:35:43,300 of arizona state university, we 4475 02:35:43,300 --> 02:35:44,301 created an interagency 4476 02:35:44,301 --> 02:35:45,335 agreement and protocol to 4477 02:35:45,335 --> 02:35:46,303 hopefully establish the greater 4478 02:35:46,303 --> 02:35:47,300 principal and county domestic 4479 02:35:47,300 --> 02:35:47,971 violence fatality review team 4480 02:35:47,971 --> 02:35:49,500 through this effort included 4481 02:35:49,500 --> 02:35:49,873 the signature of 16 agencies so 4482 02:35:49,873 --> 02:35:50,730 far with hopefully more to 4483 02:35:50,730 --> 02:35:50,873 come. 4484 02:35:50,873 --> 02:35:51,808 I would like to recognize she 4485 02:35:51,808 --> 02:35:52,775 public defender office tracy. 4486 02:35:52,775 --> 02:35:55,775 We have acting director, and 4487 02:35:59,783 --> 02:36:00,183 adjusted services 4488 02:36:00,183 --> 02:36:00,784 . 4489 02:36:00,784 --> 02:36:01,618 [Name] And the domestic 4490 02:36:01,618 --> 02:36:02,619 violence coordinator oksana 4491 02:36:02,619 --> 02:36:03,252 sure from prince william county 4492 02:36:03,252 --> 02:36:03,920 police. 4493 02:36:03,920 --> 02:36:04,754 In addition would like to point 4494 02:36:04,754 --> 02:36:05,789 out this is indeed the greater 4495 02:36:05,789 --> 02:36:06,255 prince william county fatality 4496 02:36:06,255 --> 02:36:07,524 review. 4497 02:36:07,524 --> 02:36:08,458 We representation signed the 4498 02:36:08,458 --> 02:36:09,159 principal and county police 4499 02:36:09,159 --> 02:36:09,959 department as well as manassas 4500 02:36:09,959 --> 02:36:10,860 city of manassas park with 4501 02:36:10,860 --> 02:36:12,762 hopefully more to grow. 4502 02:36:12,762 --> 02:36:13,597 The foundation however is built 4503 02:36:13,597 --> 02:36:15,597 upon confidentiality. 4504 02:36:16,332 --> 02:36:17,660 Under code section 32.1-283.3 4505 02:36:17,660 --> 02:36:19,466 the records are confidential 4506 02:36:26,176 --> 02:36:27,110 and they are not subject to 4507 02:36:27,110 --> 02:36:27,276 virginia freedom of information 4508 02:36:27,276 --> 02:36:27,744 act. 4509 02:36:27,744 --> 02:36:29,780 Review materials cannot 4510 02:36:29,780 --> 02:36:29,779 be subpoenaed, requested in 4511 02:36:29,779 --> 02:36:30,680 discovery were used as evidence 4512 02:36:30,680 --> 02:36:31,381 in any civil or criminal case 4513 02:36:31,381 --> 02:36:32,148 pickup would like to note on 4514 02:36:32,148 --> 02:36:35,148 the cases under review are 4515 02:36:36,719 --> 02:36:37,754 completely closed. 4516 02:36:37,754 --> 02:36:38,387 There is no pending litigation, 4517 02:36:38,387 --> 02:36:39,222 no investigations of civil or 4518 02:36:39,222 --> 02:36:39,790 criminal matter. 4519 02:36:39,790 --> 02:36:40,723 Participants cannot be 4520 02:36:40,723 --> 02:36:41,390 compelled to testify about what 4521 02:36:41,390 --> 02:36:42,491 occurred during the fatality 4522 02:36:42,491 --> 02:36:45,491 review or what information was 4523 02:36:50,901 --> 02:36:51,601 collected and civil immunity 4524 02:36:51,601 --> 02:36:52,601 applies to team members and 4525 02:36:52,601 --> 02:36:53,402 anyone providing information 4526 02:36:53,402 --> 02:36:53,870 unless there is gross 4527 02:36:53,870 --> 02:36:54,371 negligence or 4528 02:36:54,371 --> 02:36:54,604 willfulness 4529 02:36:54,604 --> 02:36:55,872 conduct. 4530 02:36:55,872 --> 02:36:56,640 And recognize initiative in 4531 02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:57,874 principle them county, we join 4532 02:36:57,874 --> 02:36:58,508 20 other teams across the 4533 02:36:58,508 --> 02:37:00,508 commonwealth, 49 other states 4534 02:37:01,377 --> 02:37:01,978 in the nation and several other 4535 02:37:01,978 --> 02:37:02,846 countries that are also 4536 02:37:02,846 --> 02:37:03,112 conducting these important 4537 02:37:03,112 --> 02:37:03,879 reviews. 4538 02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:05,348 we are all working to 4539 02:37:05,348 --> 02:37:07,348 implement, prevent, implement 4540 02:37:08,451 --> 02:37:09,452 and build resiliency. 4541 02:37:09,452 --> 02:37:10,487 So far the committee members 4542 02:37:10,487 --> 02:37:13,487 and the greater prince william 4543 02:37:26,469 --> 02:37:27,203 county developed their mission, 4544 02:37:27,203 --> 02:37:28,471 vision, values, team protocol 4545 02:37:28,471 --> 02:37:29,139 an interagency agreement. 4546 02:37:29,139 --> 02:37:30,106 In order to proceed under the 4547 02:37:30,106 --> 02:37:30,974 protection of the code of 4548 02:37:30,974 --> 02:37:31,974 virginia we respectfully ask 4549 02:37:31,974 --> 02:37:33,176 today the prince william county 4550 02:37:33,176 --> 02:37:34,176 board of supervisors recognizes 4551 02:37:34,176 --> 02:37:35,145 and supports the creation of 4552 02:37:35,145 --> 02:37:35,978 the greater prince william 4553 02:37:35,978 --> 02:37:36,479 domestic violence fatality 4554 02:37:36,479 --> 02:37:36,746 review team. 4555 02:37:36,746 --> 02:37:37,680 Thank you. 4556 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:38,810 >> Chair Jefferson: think is a 4557 02:37:38,810 --> 02:37:39,810 very much. 4558 02:37:39,810 --> 02:37:41,810 Supervisor bailey? 4559 02:37:42,652 --> 02:37:44,787 >> thank you for your 4560 02:37:44,787 --> 02:37:45,521 presentation. 4561 02:37:45,521 --> 02:37:48,521 Thank you for your presentation 4562 02:37:49,125 --> 02:37:52,125 and elevating the importance of 4563 02:37:52,528 --> 02:37:53,496 this program. 4564 02:37:53,496 --> 02:37:54,396 It is something that dan and I 4565 02:37:54,396 --> 02:37:55,698 talked about when we first came 4566 02:37:55,698 --> 02:37:55,765 on board 4567 02:37:55,765 --> 02:37:57,765 . 4568 02:37:58,330 --> 02:38:00,433 Something resonating in our 4569 02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:01,137 communities 4570 02:38:01,137 --> 02:38:02,105 . 4571 02:38:02,105 --> 02:38:05,105 Something the percentage of the 4572 02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:07,776 need is increased since covid 4573 02:38:07,776 --> 02:38:07,877 so we are way overdue 4574 02:38:07,877 --> 02:38:09,877 . 4575 02:38:11,347 --> 02:38:12,615 I totally support how we go 4576 02:38:12,615 --> 02:38:15,150 forward because it is 4577 02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:18,821 absolutely essential and there 4578 02:38:18,821 --> 02:38:20,900 are advocates in our community. 4579 02:38:20,900 --> 02:38:20,690 I know specifically in mind 4580 02:38:20,690 --> 02:38:23,690 district when they did their 4581 02:38:24,527 --> 02:38:25,261 annual breast cancer 4582 02:38:25,261 --> 02:38:27,261 awareness/domestic violence 4583 02:38:27,596 --> 02:38:28,364 month awareness program that 4584 02:38:28,364 --> 02:38:29,498 are interested in this 4585 02:38:29,498 --> 02:38:31,498 endeavor. 4586 02:38:33,202 --> 02:38:33,769 So thank you for your foresight 4587 02:38:33,769 --> 02:38:36,769 and again, back to mental 4588 02:38:38,341 --> 02:38:39,800 health 4589 02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:39,942 , you will the land and 4590 02:38:39,942 --> 02:38:42,942 protecting our citizens so I 4591 02:38:43,779 --> 02:38:44,247 really, really appreciate it. 4592 02:38:44,247 --> 02:38:44,981 >> thank you. 4593 02:38:44,981 --> 02:38:46,715 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 4594 02:38:46,715 --> 02:38:46,882 boddye 4595 02:38:46,882 --> 02:38:47,950 . 4596 02:38:47,950 --> 02:38:48,351 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you dan, 4597 02:38:48,351 --> 02:38:50,351 doctor. 4598 02:38:51,654 --> 02:38:51,754 [Name], MS. Taylor for this 4599 02:38:51,754 --> 02:38:52,788 . 4600 02:38:52,788 --> 02:38:56,388 Long time coming, glad you are 4601 02:39:01,630 --> 02:39:01,931 able to provide that previous 4602 02:39:01,931 --> 02:39:02,598 efforts and inject new life 4603 02:39:02,598 --> 02:39:03,532 into something near and dear to 4604 02:39:03,532 --> 02:39:04,400 the hearts of everyone on the 4605 02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:04,667 dais and throughout the 4606 02:39:04,667 --> 02:39:05,601 community. 4607 02:39:05,601 --> 02:39:08,601 We know often the percentages 4608 02:39:11,373 --> 02:39:12,708 on the stats, a law and this 4609 02:39:12,708 --> 02:39:13,241 happens by folks with closes in 4610 02:39:13,241 --> 02:39:13,910 proximity and it happens 4611 02:39:13,910 --> 02:39:14,710 unfortunately when there are 4612 02:39:14,710 --> 02:39:15,745 warning signs we just don't 4613 02:39:15,745 --> 02:39:18,745 have enough resources to sense 4614 02:39:22,852 --> 02:39:23,519 at a time. 4615 02:39:23,519 --> 02:39:23,853 This really gets at the heart 4616 02:39:23,853 --> 02:39:24,787 of that. 4617 02:39:24,787 --> 02:39:25,388 It is my hope that as you 4618 02:39:25,388 --> 02:39:28,388 continue to build your team, 4619 02:39:28,590 --> 02:39:29,225 build the work move to identify 4620 02:39:29,225 --> 02:39:30,125 cases and talk to folks and 4621 02:39:30,125 --> 02:39:34,325 what have you, they are able to 4622 02:39:36,966 --> 02:39:37,966 see those warning signs 4623 02:39:37,966 --> 02:39:38,501 hopefully save the lives and 4624 02:39:38,501 --> 02:39:40,403 change the trajectory of 4625 02:39:40,403 --> 02:39:41,303 everyone involved in these 4626 02:39:41,303 --> 02:39:43,303 situations 4627 02:39:46,410 --> 02:39:46,642 . 4628 02:39:46,642 --> 02:39:48,978 Obviously I'm going to be 4629 02:39:48,978 --> 02:39:50,413 supporting this 4630 02:39:50,413 --> 02:39:52,413 . 4631 02:39:54,583 --> 02:39:55,484 Once you get our support and 4632 02:39:55,484 --> 02:39:57,190 are able to establish this team 4633 02:39:57,190 --> 02:40:00,456 would have you what are your 4634 02:40:00,456 --> 02:40:01,390 immediate next steps and to 4635 02:40:01,390 --> 02:40:05,590 model I have seen pop up around 4636 02:40:06,128 --> 02:40:07,129 the region around the country 4637 02:40:07,129 --> 02:40:07,797 are the family justice centers 4638 02:40:07,797 --> 02:40:10,797 that have a broader continuum 4639 02:40:10,966 --> 02:40:11,633 on this and get at the heart 4640 02:40:11,633 --> 02:40:12,568 similar to what we do in the 4641 02:40:12,568 --> 02:40:13,436 child advocacy centers abroad 4642 02:40:13,436 --> 02:40:14,436 in that out to the entire 4643 02:40:14,436 --> 02:40:15,300 family and the victims we are 4644 02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:17,300 talking about here. 4645 02:40:17,139 --> 02:40:17,973 Can you 4646 02:40:17,973 --> 02:40:20,709 talk about that and with the 4647 02:40:20,709 --> 02:40:21,710 forward vision is? 4648 02:40:21,710 --> 02:40:25,910 >> I love what your head is at. 4649 02:40:30,119 --> 02:40:30,352 Immediate steps 4650 02:40:30,352 --> 02:40:31,520 . 4651 02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:31,787 We are fortunate to have doctor 4652 02:40:31,787 --> 02:40:32,755 neil and his team at the 4653 02:40:32,755 --> 02:40:33,321 national domestic violence 4654 02:40:33,321 --> 02:40:34,323 fatality review initiative. 4655 02:40:34,323 --> 02:40:35,240 He literally invented fatality 4656 02:40:35,240 --> 02:40:36,580 review back in 1990. 4657 02:40:36,580 --> 02:40:36,825 We have been working with his 4658 02:40:36,825 --> 02:40:37,392 team to do our training earlier 4659 02:40:37,392 --> 02:40:40,392 this year like I said. 4660 02:40:42,932 --> 02:40:43,832 We are also going to be in the 4661 02:40:43,832 --> 02:40:44,533 back and up conduct our very 4662 02:40:44,533 --> 02:40:48,360 first review and figure out how 4663 02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:48,737 to select that case. 4664 02:40:48,737 --> 02:40:49,538 Into moving ahead as he said 4665 02:40:49,538 --> 02:40:50,539 there are so many 4666 02:40:50,539 --> 02:40:52,539 opportunities, family justice 4667 02:40:53,375 --> 02:40:54,420 center is wonderful. 4668 02:40:54,420 --> 02:40:54,877 As we develop our data and 4669 02:40:54,877 --> 02:40:55,744 understand the circumstances a 4670 02:40:55,744 --> 02:40:56,612 little bit more we will find 4671 02:40:56,612 --> 02:40:57,579 out what that would need to 4672 02:40:57,579 --> 02:40:58,447 look like here in prince 4673 02:40:58,447 --> 02:41:00,447 william. 4674 02:41:04,420 --> 02:41:05,921 Thank you. 4675 02:41:05,921 --> 02:41:06,187 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 4676 02:41:06,187 --> 02:41:07,890 franklin. 4677 02:41:07,890 --> 02:41:07,590 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4678 02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:09,590 thank you. 4679 02:41:10,593 --> 02:41:11,226 Thank you for the presentation. 4680 02:41:11,226 --> 02:41:12,940 I would point out, and you 4681 02:41:12,940 --> 02:41:14,940 alluded to this. 4682 02:41:18,330 --> 02:41:19,340 In 2024, particularly as most 4683 02:41:19,340 --> 02:41:19,835 crimes of prince william county 4684 02:41:19,835 --> 02:41:20,902 was on the decrease, incidents 4685 02:41:20,902 --> 02:41:21,570 of domestic violence was 4686 02:41:21,570 --> 02:41:22,571 actually on the increase. 4687 02:41:22,571 --> 02:41:24,706 This is incredibly important. 4688 02:41:24,706 --> 02:41:24,874 i do have a couple of questions 4689 02:41:24,874 --> 02:41:26,874 . 4690 02:41:28,376 --> 02:41:32,180 Once this is fully set up, are 4691 02:41:32,180 --> 02:41:33,150 you looking to derive more data 4692 02:41:33,150 --> 02:41:35,884 from some of these domestic 4693 02:41:35,884 --> 02:41:37,319 violence cases and then turn 4694 02:41:37,319 --> 02:41:39,719 them into recommendations for 4695 02:41:42,958 --> 02:41:43,158 how to handle some of these 4696 02:41:43,158 --> 02:41:44,693 cases? 4697 02:41:44,693 --> 02:41:45,360 >> absolutely. 4698 02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:47,360 Applications are determined 4699 02:41:50,165 --> 02:41:50,799 upon what we find, but ideally 4700 02:41:50,799 --> 02:41:54,399 we would be being able to 4701 02:41:55,504 --> 02:41:56,404 compile regular reports that 4702 02:41:56,404 --> 02:41:57,406 would to be provided to the 4703 02:41:57,406 --> 02:42:00,406 board itself, and the community 4704 02:42:13,122 --> 02:42:15,122 members and agencies 4705 02:42:18,760 --> 02:42:20,760 . 4706 02:42:20,829 --> 02:42:21,290 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4707 02:42:21,290 --> 02:42:22,196 okay. 4708 02:42:22,196 --> 02:42:22,798 There is a data point where you 4709 02:42:22,798 --> 02:42:23,698 collect all the data and then 4710 02:42:23,698 --> 02:42:23,998 you develop recommendations 4711 02:42:23,998 --> 02:42:24,700 from their 4712 02:42:24,700 --> 02:42:25,801 >> that is correct. 4713 02:42:25,801 --> 02:42:26,401 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4714 02:42:26,401 --> 02:42:27,202 how does this relate to the 4715 02:42:27,202 --> 02:42:27,769 community safety initiative. 4716 02:42:27,769 --> 02:42:28,700 Is it part of it, under it, 4717 02:42:28,700 --> 02:42:28,437 working in 4718 02:42:28,437 --> 02:42:29,204 tandem? 4719 02:42:29,204 --> 02:42:30,706 >> the community safety 4720 02:42:30,706 --> 02:42:31,707 initiative, as a goal of a 4721 02:42:31,707 --> 02:42:32,240 convenient couple together 4722 02:42:32,240 --> 02:42:33,208 these court and then the 4723 02:42:33,208 --> 02:42:33,875 community responses. 4724 02:42:33,875 --> 02:42:34,710 One of the things I will notice 4725 02:42:34,710 --> 02:42:35,576 there is domestic violence 4726 02:42:35,576 --> 02:42:36,211 counsel prior to the pandemic 4727 02:42:36,211 --> 02:42:36,612 but it fell apart. 4728 02:42:36,612 --> 02:42:37,212 Through the work 4729 02:42:37,212 --> 02:42:38,246 here with the 4730 02:42:38,246 --> 02:42:39,214 county what we found is people 4731 02:42:39,214 --> 02:42:39,881 volunteering their time to come 4732 02:42:39,881 --> 02:42:42,881 together and really trying to 4733 02:42:47,188 --> 02:42:48,890 pull this up, however, it is 4734 02:42:48,890 --> 02:42:48,790 unstable unless there is a 4735 02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:49,190 particularly clear entity for 4736 02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:50,580 that. 4737 02:42:50,580 --> 02:42:50,725 And so here we are able to 4738 02:42:50,725 --> 02:42:51,660 spearhead that I make sure that 4739 02:42:51,660 --> 02:42:52,627 there is continuity so that way 4740 02:42:52,627 --> 02:42:53,495 we don't lose this again and we 4741 02:42:53,495 --> 02:42:54,162 don't look away from this 4742 02:42:54,162 --> 02:42:54,395 really important topic in the 4743 02:42:54,395 --> 02:42:56,395 future. 4744 02:43:01,136 --> 02:43:01,737 I don't know if we would like 4745 02:43:01,737 --> 02:43:02,838 more expansion on that? 4746 02:43:02,838 --> 02:43:03,772 >> briefly, if you think about 4747 02:43:03,772 --> 02:43:04,906 the connective tissue around 4748 02:43:04,906 --> 02:43:05,607 what we do it is driven by 4749 02:43:05,607 --> 02:43:08,700 engagement informed by evidence 4750 02:43:12,447 --> 02:43:12,914 and ecosystem 4751 02:43:12,914 --> 02:43:13,548 . 4752 02:43:13,548 --> 02:43:14,515 And so there are a number of 4753 02:43:14,515 --> 02:43:15,350 areas we identify domestic 4754 02:43:15,350 --> 02:43:16,350 violence being a big one. 4755 02:43:16,350 --> 02:43:18,750 We talked about human 4756 02:43:23,457 --> 02:43:24,493 trafficking a little bit. 4757 02:43:24,493 --> 02:43:24,959 We are on gangs right now with 4758 02:43:24,959 --> 02:43:25,927 another member. 4759 02:43:25,927 --> 02:43:26,527 There are focus areas that 4760 02:43:26,527 --> 02:43:27,950 allow us in this office is a 4761 02:43:27,950 --> 02:43:27,962 convenient to reach across 4762 02:43:27,962 --> 02:43:28,729 systems where we typically 4763 02:43:28,729 --> 02:43:29,631 haven't to the degree that we 4764 02:43:29,631 --> 02:43:30,565 can now and drive work along 4765 02:43:30,565 --> 02:43:30,965 three elements I talked about 4766 02:43:30,965 --> 02:43:32,965 earlier. 4767 02:43:35,303 --> 02:43:35,970 This is absolutely an important 4768 02:43:35,970 --> 02:43:36,838 program piece to the work we 4769 02:43:36,838 --> 02:43:37,710 are doing broadly in the 4770 02:43:37,710 --> 02:43:37,939 office. 4771 02:43:37,939 --> 02:43:39,939 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 4772 02:43:45,130 --> 02:43:45,713 thank you for that. 4773 02:43:45,713 --> 02:43:46,140 Thank you for the work we are 4774 02:43:46,140 --> 02:43:47,150 doing. 4775 02:43:47,150 --> 02:43:47,682 MR. Shorter, maybe we could at 4776 02:43:47,682 --> 02:43:48,483 some point get an update on the 4777 02:43:48,483 --> 02:43:49,517 overall community safety 4778 02:43:49,517 --> 02:43:50,117 initiative to see how the 4779 02:43:50,117 --> 02:43:50,985 working group is going to to 4780 02:43:50,985 --> 02:43:51,352 see how things are looking to 4781 02:43:51,352 --> 02:43:53,352 be rolled out. 4782 02:43:53,621 --> 02:43:54,723 Thank you. 4783 02:43:54,723 --> 02:43:55,656 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 4784 02:43:55,656 --> 02:43:56,624 Supervisor vega and then the 4785 02:43:56,624 --> 02:43:57,358 lease before thinking that 4786 02:43:57,358 --> 02:43:59,358 entire. 4787 02:44:01,496 --> 02:44:01,996 My question is about the work 4788 02:44:01,996 --> 02:44:02,664 distribution. 4789 02:44:02,664 --> 02:44:05,967 I know that this had been the 4790 02:44:05,967 --> 02:44:07,702 fight manassas a manassas park. 4791 02:44:07,702 --> 02:44:08,736 Ticket get off the burden would 4792 02:44:08,736 --> 02:44:11,736 fall in prince william county, 4793 02:44:12,741 --> 02:44:13,674 correct in terms of stop and 4794 02:44:13,674 --> 02:44:17,874 the work that they have to do? 4795 02:44:20,949 --> 02:44:21,816 >> not necessarily. 4796 02:44:21,816 --> 02:44:22,884 That objectives moving ahead 4797 02:44:22,884 --> 02:44:23,784 would determine how who we have 4798 02:44:23,784 --> 02:44:24,786 is a chair and we would like to 4799 02:44:24,786 --> 02:44:27,186 seek representation from the 4800 02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:32,227 greater area. 4801 02:44:32,227 --> 02:44:32,594 I don't necessarily think that 4802 02:44:32,594 --> 02:44:33,261 has to be true. 4803 02:44:33,261 --> 02:44:34,195 I think we can have number step 4804 02:44:34,195 --> 02:44:35,163 up and participate equally. 4805 02:44:35,163 --> 02:44:38,163 >> Yesli Vega: that is good. 4806 02:44:42,403 --> 02:44:43,271 The reason why I ask is I'm 4807 02:44:43,271 --> 02:44:44,271 trying to identify if this 4808 02:44:44,271 --> 02:44:44,906 would add an additional 4809 02:44:44,906 --> 02:44:45,773 financial burden and or 4810 02:44:45,773 --> 02:44:46,808 additional responsibilities to 4811 02:44:46,808 --> 02:44:49,744 our county staff and whether it 4812 02:44:49,744 --> 02:44:50,778 is the clerk of the court or 4813 02:44:50,778 --> 02:44:51,445 sheriff's office, they service 4814 02:44:51,445 --> 02:44:51,812 the cities and pay their fair 4815 02:44:51,812 --> 02:44:52,714 share. 4816 02:44:52,714 --> 02:44:55,714 I was thinking along those 4817 02:44:58,886 --> 02:44:59,888 lines but this would require 4818 02:44:59,888 --> 02:45:01,723 the same type of mou, if that 4819 02:45:01,723 --> 02:45:02,390 is what we want to call it. 4820 02:45:02,390 --> 02:45:03,258 I'm happy to hear there would 4821 02:45:03,258 --> 02:45:04,125 be some type of collaboration 4822 02:45:04,125 --> 02:45:04,559 and I look forward to seeing 4823 02:45:04,559 --> 02:45:04,959 how that develops. 4824 02:45:04,959 --> 02:45:06,394 Thank you. 4825 02:45:06,394 --> 02:45:06,628 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 4826 02:45:06,628 --> 02:45:07,228 bailey? 4827 02:45:07,228 --> 02:45:07,895 B6 you MAY have answered this 4828 02:45:07,895 --> 02:45:10,295 at a different time. 4829 02:45:13,568 --> 02:45:14,680 There are organizations and 4830 02:45:14,680 --> 02:45:15,690 subject matter experts. 4831 02:45:15,690 --> 02:45:15,937 One of the things the community 4832 02:45:15,937 --> 02:45:17,738 program that dan created was 4833 02:45:17,738 --> 02:45:18,739 good at is bringing 4834 02:45:18,739 --> 02:45:20,207 organizations within the 4835 02:45:20,207 --> 02:45:22,607 community that have been 4836 02:45:27,248 --> 02:45:27,415 strategically working on this 4837 02:45:27,415 --> 02:45:27,582 on 4838 02:45:27,582 --> 02:45:28,516 brady. 4839 02:45:28,516 --> 02:45:29,484 What does that look like in 4840 02:45:29,484 --> 02:45:32,420 terms of how you're going to 4841 02:45:32,420 --> 02:45:33,200 move forward. 4842 02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:33,287 >> that is also a great 4843 02:45:33,287 --> 02:45:33,922 question. 4844 02:45:33,922 --> 02:45:34,421 We are developing the 4845 02:45:34,421 --> 02:45:35,956 structure. 4846 02:45:35,956 --> 02:45:39,861 We are working to pull in a 4847 02:45:39,861 --> 02:45:40,161 variety of different partners 4848 02:45:40,161 --> 02:45:40,861 . 4849 02:45:40,861 --> 02:45:45,610 I don't know if you wanted to 4850 02:45:45,265 --> 02:45:46,267 jump in on any aspect of that. 4851 02:45:46,267 --> 02:45:47,468 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I 4852 02:45:47,468 --> 02:45:48,268 know it won't happen overnight 4853 02:45:48,268 --> 02:45:48,536 but I want to know is that in 4854 02:45:48,536 --> 02:45:50,536 the plan? 4855 02:45:59,613 --> 02:46:00,515 >> you look at the current team 4856 02:46:00,515 --> 02:46:01,182 members involved on this. 4857 02:46:01,182 --> 02:46:02,183 I'm going to go off your list 4858 02:46:02,183 --> 02:46:03,151 for criminal justice services, 4859 02:46:03,151 --> 02:46:04,180 ax, community services, health 4860 02:46:04,180 --> 02:46:05,190 districts, social services, 4861 02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:05,686 homeless services, the police 4862 02:46:05,686 --> 02:46:06,120 departments we mentioned 4863 02:46:06,120 --> 02:46:06,687 before. 4864 02:46:06,687 --> 02:46:07,688 08 argument adult detention 4865 02:46:07,688 --> 02:46:08,322 center. 4866 02:46:08,322 --> 02:46:09,560 It's very inclusive in terms of 4867 02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:12,560 process and how we would 4868 02:46:19,133 --> 02:46:20,134 involve in this work but we can 4869 02:46:20,134 --> 02:46:20,634 expand beyond that to other 4870 02:46:20,634 --> 02:46:21,402 governmental and 4871 02:46:21,402 --> 02:46:22,269 nongovernmental entities for us 4872 02:46:22,269 --> 02:46:22,770 to work on this issue and all 4873 02:46:22,770 --> 02:46:23,804 the other issues. 4874 02:46:23,804 --> 02:46:24,772 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I 4875 02:46:24,772 --> 02:46:27,772 was just thinking the non-for 4876 02:46:30,210 --> 02:46:30,845 profits. 4877 02:46:30,845 --> 02:46:31,779 When you mentioned human 4878 02:46:31,779 --> 02:46:32,213 trafficking, that's a tender 4879 02:46:32,213 --> 02:46:32,813 spot. 4880 02:46:32,813 --> 02:46:34,215 But there are not for profits 4881 02:46:34,215 --> 02:46:34,882 within our community that would 4882 02:46:34,882 --> 02:46:35,216 be elated that we are starting 4883 02:46:35,216 --> 02:46:36,250 on this. 4884 02:46:36,250 --> 02:46:40,254 That is what I was alluding to. 4885 02:46:40,254 --> 02:46:41,455 Thank you. 4886 02:46:41,455 --> 02:46:41,755 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 4887 02:46:41,755 --> 02:46:42,757 boddye. 4888 02:46:42,757 --> 02:46:43,757 >> Kenny Boddye: last couple 4889 02:46:43,757 --> 02:46:44,191 questions and I appreciate my 4890 02:46:44,191 --> 02:46:44,358 colleagues stirring 4891 02:46:44,358 --> 02:46:46,358 more 4892 02:46:49,130 --> 02:46:49,630 thoughts and questions. 4893 02:46:49,630 --> 02:46:50,364 The school system. 4894 02:46:50,364 --> 02:46:51,232 Where does the school system 4895 02:46:51,232 --> 02:46:54,832 sit in the partnership to the 4896 02:47:01,442 --> 02:47:01,642 point my colleague made on the 4897 02:47:01,642 --> 02:47:02,810 team. 4898 02:47:02,810 --> 02:47:03,510 >> we are still collecting 4899 02:47:03,510 --> 02:47:04,779 signatures being knowable to 4900 02:47:04,779 --> 02:47:05,446 formally recognize the team 4901 02:47:05,446 --> 02:47:05,846 would be a great way to attract 4902 02:47:05,846 --> 02:47:06,614 new members. 4903 02:47:06,614 --> 02:47:07,415 Work closely with the schools 4904 02:47:07,415 --> 02:47:10,415 in a human trafficking task 4905 02:47:10,418 --> 02:47:10,852 force we operate so hopefully 4906 02:47:10,852 --> 02:47:12,852 sometime soon. 4907 02:47:16,323 --> 02:47:16,623 >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate 4908 02:47:16,623 --> 02:47:17,592 that. 4909 02:47:17,592 --> 02:47:18,326 Last question we have, it goes 4910 02:47:18,326 --> 02:47:19,960 back to something supervisor 4911 02:47:19,960 --> 02:47:22,896 franklin asked is when you are 4912 02:47:22,896 --> 02:47:23,797 talking about some of the 4913 02:47:23,797 --> 02:47:26,400 current situation ask as he 4914 02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:26,500 brought up 4915 02:47:26,500 --> 02:47:28,268 . 4916 02:47:28,268 --> 02:47:29,937 I assume the answer is yes but 4917 02:47:29,937 --> 02:47:31,939 also identifying the gaps that 4918 02:47:31,939 --> 02:47:35,539 we have frankly in being able 4919 02:47:39,246 --> 02:47:40,800 to address these needs, detect 4920 02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:40,748 them in the on the left and 4921 02:47:40,748 --> 02:47:41,181 right of way. 4922 02:47:41,181 --> 02:47:44,181 Is that part of it? 4923 02:47:47,121 --> 02:47:48,255 >> that is absolutely correct. 4924 02:47:48,255 --> 02:47:48,522 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 4925 02:47:48,522 --> 02:47:50,522 very much. 4926 02:47:54,661 --> 02:47:54,929 I don't see any further 4927 02:47:54,929 --> 02:47:55,829 questions. 4928 02:47:55,829 --> 02:47:58,829 >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM 4929 02:48:00,935 --> 02:48:01,969 Chair and members of the board. 4930 02:48:01,969 --> 02:48:02,636 >> Chair Jefferson: I was 4931 02:48:02,636 --> 02:48:02,936 getting ready to go through my 4932 02:48:02,936 --> 02:48:04,936 agenda. 4933 02:48:07,140 --> 02:48:07,341 This is a resolution 4934 02:48:07,341 --> 02:48:08,275 . 4935 02:48:08,275 --> 02:48:09,309 I would like to get a motion 4936 02:48:09,309 --> 02:48:10,311 directness and support the 4937 02:48:10,311 --> 02:48:13,280 creation of the greater prince 4938 02:48:13,280 --> 02:48:13,881 william domestic violence 4939 02:48:13,881 --> 02:48:14,581 fatality review team. 4940 02:48:14,581 --> 02:48:15,415 >> so moved. 4941 02:48:15,415 --> 02:48:15,916 >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: 4942 02:48:15,916 --> 02:48:16,783 second. 4943 02:48:16,783 --> 02:48:17,351 >> Chair Jefferson: any further 4944 02:48:17,351 --> 02:48:19,351 discussion on this? 4945 02:48:19,820 --> 02:48:21,820 I want to 4946 02:48:25,158 --> 02:48:25,358 say quickly if that we need 4947 02:48:25,358 --> 02:48:26,159 this. 4948 02:48:26,159 --> 02:48:26,727 I've spoken to a number of 4949 02:48:26,727 --> 02:48:29,127 police officers who say 4950 02:48:30,563 --> 02:48:33,563 domestic violence calls are the 4951 02:48:34,635 --> 02:48:35,336 most dangerous in reading 4952 02:48:35,336 --> 02:48:36,303 through the staff report and 4953 02:48:36,303 --> 02:48:38,703 reading through this, domestic 4954 02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:44,800 violence is the highest cause 4955 02:48:46,413 --> 02:48:47,147 of death among pregnant women. 4956 02:48:47,147 --> 02:48:47,514 That is sobering and actually 4957 02:48:47,514 --> 02:48:48,415 quite scary. 4958 02:48:48,415 --> 02:48:49,315 Often times people are in 4959 02:48:49,315 --> 02:48:52,850 relationships and there is a 4960 02:48:52,850 --> 02:48:54,788 loft of trust built and that is 4961 02:48:54,788 --> 02:48:54,954 how people fall prey to things 4962 02:48:54,954 --> 02:48:55,689 . 4963 02:48:55,689 --> 02:48:59,289 It's something I'd be remiss if 4964 02:49:03,764 --> 02:49:04,664 I didn't say, it doesn't just 4965 02:49:04,664 --> 02:49:05,332 impact women but also men are 4966 02:49:05,332 --> 02:49:06,166 victims and that is something 4967 02:49:06,166 --> 02:49:09,166 we cannot lose sight of. 4968 02:49:13,390 --> 02:49:14,400 There are men who are victims 4969 02:49:14,400 --> 02:49:15,900 of domestic violence often 4970 02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:15,609 times because of social stigma 4971 02:49:15,609 --> 02:49:16,510 they are afraid to speak up. 4972 02:49:16,510 --> 02:49:17,310 Thank you for the work you do 4973 02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:17,710 around this issue. 4974 02:49:17,710 --> 02:49:18,312 Supervisor angry? 4975 02:49:18,312 --> 02:49:18,578 > Kenny Boddye: I want to 4976 02:49:18,578 --> 02:49:20,578 thank you. 4977 02:49:36,129 --> 02:49:36,697 I know this is a touchy subject 4978 02:49:36,697 --> 02:49:37,196 . 4979 02:49:37,196 --> 02:49:37,564 There is a lot of work 4980 02:49:37,564 --> 02:49:38,298 involved. 4981 02:49:38,298 --> 02:49:39,366 There's a lot of unknowns now. 4982 02:49:39,366 --> 02:49:39,666 Ask these questions, build your 4983 02:49:39,666 --> 02:49:40,266 team. 4984 02:49:40,266 --> 02:49:41,670 I can't wait for you to get 4985 02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:42,680 back and let us know once you 4986 02:49:42,680 --> 02:49:42,535 have the package in place and 4987 02:49:42,535 --> 02:49:43,203 how well it's doing. 4988 02:49:43,203 --> 02:49:44,104 i know it's going to take time 4989 02:49:44,104 --> 02:49:44,738 and it's going to be well worth 4990 02:49:44,738 --> 02:49:48,775 it so thank you for the work 4991 02:49:48,775 --> 02:49:51,775 you have done thus far. 4992 02:49:56,183 --> 02:49:57,184 >> vote unanimous. 4993 02:49:57,184 --> 02:49:57,517 >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM 4994 02:49:57,517 --> 02:49:58,518 Chair. 4995 02:49:58,518 --> 02:50:00,988 Into the team, thank you very 4996 02:50:00,988 --> 02:50:01,655 much. 4997 02:50:01,655 --> 02:50:02,456 This was rachael's first time 4998 02:50:02,456 --> 02:50:06,560 in front of the board so 4999 02:50:06,920 --> 02:50:07,761 rachel, great job. 5000 02:50:07,761 --> 02:50:11,361 So with item 10 feet we are 5001 02:50:11,532 --> 02:50:14,532 asking for a transfer of 85,000 5002 02:50:27,313 --> 02:50:28,749 of contingency funds. 5003 02:50:28,749 --> 02:50:29,315 The planning office is bringing 5004 02:50:29,315 --> 02:50:29,983 this forward consulting 5005 02:50:29,983 --> 02:50:31,284 services and I will turn into 5006 02:50:31,284 --> 02:50:32,318 tonya to answer any questions. 5007 02:50:32,318 --> 02:50:32,819 Co-director washington to 5008 02:50:32,819 --> 02:50:33,252 answer questions. 5009 02:50:33,252 --> 02:50:33,420 >> good afternoon. 5010 02:50:33,420 --> 02:50:35,210 Onya 5011 02:50:35,210 --> 02:50:35,822 washington director of the 5012 02:50:35,822 --> 02:50:36,823 planning office joined today by 5013 02:50:36,823 --> 02:50:37,790 eric griffiths who is with our 5014 02:50:37,790 --> 02:50:40,790 cultural resources team and our 5015 02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:44,765 countywide planning division. 5016 02:50:44,765 --> 02:50:45,698 We are here to request the 5017 02:50:45,698 --> 02:50:46,566 board transfer $85,000 for an 5018 02:50:46,566 --> 02:50:48,966 contingency to the planning 5019 02:50:50,360 --> 02:50:50,771 office for consultant services 5020 02:50:50,771 --> 02:50:51,104 to support the 5021 02:50:51,104 --> 02:50:52,380 reduction on the 5022 02:50:52,380 --> 02:50:54,438 thurau fair historic overlay 5023 02:50:54,707 --> 02:50:55,441 district design guidelines. 5024 02:50:55,441 --> 02:50:56,410 As I am sure you are aware we 5025 02:50:56,410 --> 02:50:57,877 have an initiative underway to 5026 02:50:57,877 --> 02:50:58,711 create a new historic district 5027 02:50:58,711 --> 02:51:01,111 for the thorough fare 5028 02:51:01,915 --> 02:51:02,915 community. 5029 02:51:02,915 --> 02:51:03,517 We have a lot of work that has 5030 02:51:03,517 --> 02:51:04,184 already been taken place 5031 02:51:04,184 --> 02:51:04,251 already 5032 02:51:04,251 --> 02:51:06,251 . 5033 02:51:18,665 --> 02:51:19,665 We conducted three community 5034 02:51:19,665 --> 02:51:20,266 meetings between JUNE 20 24 and 5035 02:51:20,266 --> 02:51:21,234 SEPTEMBER this year. 5036 02:51:21,234 --> 02:51:22,168 We have already done a lot of 5037 02:51:22,168 --> 02:51:22,869 work on the first phase which 5038 02:51:22,869 --> 02:51:25,269 is producing the historic 5039 02:51:29,342 --> 02:51:30,209 register, the national historic 5040 02:51:30,209 --> 02:51:30,910 places and virginia landmarks 5041 02:51:30,910 --> 02:51:31,811 register nomination. 5042 02:51:31,811 --> 02:51:32,712 That process is still going 5043 02:51:32,712 --> 02:51:33,814 through the state review 5044 02:51:33,814 --> 02:51:35,215 process 5045 02:51:35,215 --> 02:51:36,215 . 5046 02:51:36,215 --> 02:51:37,583 One big change that took place 5047 02:51:37,583 --> 02:51:38,184 after one of our community 5048 02:51:38,184 --> 02:51:38,885 meetings was that community 5049 02:51:38,885 --> 02:51:41,285 members asked for consideration 5050 02:51:48,940 --> 02:51:48,795 to expand the boundaries of the 5051 02:51:48,795 --> 02:51:50,960 area that is being recommended 5052 02:51:50,960 --> 02:51:50,763 or nominated for the national 5053 02:51:50,763 --> 02:51:52,132 register in virginia landmarks 5054 02:51:52,132 --> 02:51:52,765 process and that triggered 5055 02:51:52,765 --> 02:51:55,165 additional review on the 5056 02:52:04,844 --> 02:52:05,644 stateside. 5057 02:52:05,644 --> 02:52:06,112 That is taking longer than what 5058 02:52:06,112 --> 02:52:07,347 we anticipated. 5059 02:52:07,347 --> 02:52:07,980 And so we decided in SEPTEMBER 5060 02:52:07,980 --> 02:52:08,848 to start the work on a second 5061 02:52:08,848 --> 02:52:09,782 phase to develop the zoning 5062 02:52:09,782 --> 02:52:10,383 text amendment that would 5063 02:52:10,383 --> 02:52:11,951 create the historic overlay 5064 02:52:11,951 --> 02:52:12,619 district. 5065 02:52:12,619 --> 02:52:16,819 As part of that, to a company 5066 02:52:21,260 --> 02:52:22,280 that is eta we also need design 5067 02:52:22,280 --> 02:52:23,290 guidelines that is actually the 5068 02:52:23,290 --> 02:52:24,630 mechanisms that would help to 5069 02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:24,964 regulate matters such as 5070 02:52:24,964 --> 02:52:25,698 architectural changes, 5071 02:52:25,698 --> 02:52:26,598 archaeological resources and 5072 02:52:26,598 --> 02:52:27,466 other historic resources within 5073 02:52:27,466 --> 02:52:30,436 the overlay district once that 5074 02:52:30,436 --> 02:52:32,338 is established as soon as the 5075 02:52:32,338 --> 02:52:34,338 board establishes it. 5076 02:52:36,542 --> 02:52:37,410 Because we are getting started 5077 02:52:37,410 --> 02:52:40,410 earlier we do need resources 5078 02:52:48,254 --> 02:52:49,622 during this fiscal year for the 5079 02:52:49,622 --> 02:52:50,656 design guidelines in order to 5080 02:52:50,656 --> 02:52:51,624 procure consultant, specialized 5081 02:52:51,624 --> 02:52:52,625 consultant resources and 5082 02:52:52,625 --> 02:52:55,250 support to produce that. 5083 02:53:04,690 --> 02:53:05,710 The goal is when we complete 5084 02:53:05,710 --> 02:53:05,738 the draft on the zoning text 5085 02:53:05,738 --> 02:53:06,672 amendment we would bring the 5086 02:53:06,672 --> 02:53:07,573 design guidelines at the same 5087 02:53:07,573 --> 02:53:08,173 time so the board can approve 5088 02:53:08,173 --> 02:53:09,209 both at the same time. 5089 02:53:09,209 --> 02:53:10,750 So happy to answer any 5090 02:53:10,750 --> 02:53:10,343 questions if you have any. 5091 02:53:10,343 --> 02:53:11,577 Thank you. 5092 02:53:11,577 --> 02:53:12,244 >> Chair Jefferson: first time 5093 02:53:12,244 --> 02:53:12,478 supervisor franklin, vega, then 5094 02:53:12,478 --> 02:53:13,345 boddye. 5095 02:53:13,345 --> 02:53:14,213 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I 5096 02:53:14,213 --> 02:53:15,810 know we put some money toward 5097 02:53:15,810 --> 02:53:15,581 creating the interactive park I 5098 02:53:15,581 --> 02:53:17,981 guess so to speak. 5099 02:53:20,530 --> 02:53:20,819 Is that separate from what we 5100 02:53:20,819 --> 02:53:21,620 are looking to do now? 5101 02:53:21,620 --> 02:53:23,620 >> yes. 5102 02:53:26,325 --> 02:53:27,160 I'm not entirely sure are not 5103 02:53:27,160 --> 02:53:27,493 familiar with what you 5104 02:53:27,493 --> 02:53:28,327 referring to. 5105 02:53:28,327 --> 02:53:28,661 And you provide more details? 5106 02:53:28,661 --> 02:53:30,661 Okay. 5107 02:53:30,763 --> 02:53:32,763 Yes. 5108 02:53:38,337 --> 02:53:39,500 It is a separate project. 5109 02:53:39,500 --> 02:53:39,305 >> are encrypted, evidence 5110 02:53:39,305 --> 02:53:39,839 resource 5111 02:53:39,839 --> 02:53:40,473 specialist with the 5112 02:53:40,473 --> 02:53:42,473 planning office. 5113 02:53:46,112 --> 02:53:47,747 So the original thoroughfare 5114 02:53:47,747 --> 02:53:50,147 initiative included both the 5115 02:53:50,583 --> 02:53:52,983 interpretive park and historic 5116 02:53:57,423 --> 02:53:58,900 overlay district, but they were 5117 02:53:58,900 --> 02:53:58,424 parceled off into separate 5118 02:53:58,424 --> 02:53:59,225 agencies. 5119 02:53:59,225 --> 02:54:00,930 The planning office is handling 5120 02:54:00,930 --> 02:54:00,926 the historic overlay district 5121 02:54:00,926 --> 02:54:02,928 and parks and recreation 5122 02:54:02,928 --> 02:54:05,328 historic is doing the 5123 02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:10,320 historical park aspect part of 5124 02:54:12,504 --> 02:54:13,639 that project. 5125 02:54:13,639 --> 02:54:14,273 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 5126 02:54:14,273 --> 02:54:16,273 Supervisor vega? 5127 02:54:24,751 --> 02:54:25,751 >> Yesli Vega: for 5128 02:54:25,751 --> 02:54:26,718 clarification purposes I thank 5129 02:54:26,718 --> 02:54:26,986 you might have answered my 5130 02:54:26,986 --> 02:54:28,186 question. 5131 02:54:28,186 --> 02:54:29,540 We need to spend this amount on 5132 02:54:29,540 --> 02:54:29,354 consultants for design 5133 02:54:29,354 --> 02:54:29,688 guidelines? 5134 02:54:29,688 --> 02:54:31,688 >> yes. 5135 02:54:32,992 --> 02:54:33,592 >> Yesli Vega: do we anticipate 5136 02:54:33,592 --> 02:54:34,460 the $85,000 will be enough? 5137 02:54:34,460 --> 02:54:35,194 >> that is what we are 5138 02:54:35,194 --> 02:54:37,763 requesting is the budget so if 5139 02:54:37,763 --> 02:54:38,164 we get those funds that is what 5140 02:54:38,164 --> 02:54:38,730 we will use. 5141 02:54:38,730 --> 02:54:39,665 >> Yesli Vega: thank you. 5142 02:54:39,665 --> 02:54:39,965 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 5143 02:54:39,965 --> 02:54:40,999 boddye. 5144 02:54:40,999 --> 02:54:42,999 >> Kenny Boddye: laissez 5145 02:54:49,442 --> 02:54:50,142 question, or a common. 5146 02:54:50,142 --> 02:54:51,760 MS. Washington, I appreciate 5147 02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:51,910 your thought process having 5148 02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:52,544 things run concurrent frankly 5149 02:54:52,544 --> 02:54:53,412 because sometimes we are 5150 02:54:53,412 --> 02:54:54,112 waiting for things to be 5151 02:54:54,112 --> 02:54:56,348 subsequently we end up spending 5152 02:54:56,348 --> 02:54:57,349 more time frankly. 5153 02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:57,916 This journey for a thorough 5154 02:54:57,916 --> 02:54:58,818 fare has become a long time. 5155 02:54:58,818 --> 02:55:00,252 I 5156 02:55:00,252 --> 02:55:00,786 appreciate the fact you are 5157 02:55:00,786 --> 02:55:02,788 thinking about the design 5158 02:55:02,788 --> 02:55:03,489 guidelines 5159 02:55:03,489 --> 02:55:04,560 . 5160 02:55:04,560 --> 02:55:04,623 Having this come to us 5161 02:55:04,623 --> 02:55:06,623 concurrently. 5162 02:55:10,963 --> 02:55:11,797 At the state 5163 02:55:11,797 --> 02:55:12,731 level it works itself out for 5164 02:55:12,731 --> 02:55:16,331 the historical part of it in 5165 02:55:17,302 --> 02:55:18,170 the register you there, you are 5166 02:55:18,170 --> 02:55:19,171 starting to work through the 5167 02:55:19,171 --> 02:55:22,771 process of having our land use 5168 02:55:26,611 --> 02:55:27,279 policies conformed to that. 5169 02:55:27,279 --> 02:55:28,213 That leads me to my question. 5170 02:55:28,213 --> 02:55:29,810 One of the things I have seen, 5171 02:55:29,810 --> 02:55:29,581 sometimes and I imagine it 5172 02:55:29,581 --> 02:55:31,183 won't be the case here. 5173 02:55:31,183 --> 02:55:32,384 Overlays that we adopt 5174 02:55:32,384 --> 02:55:33,219 sometimes contradict underlying 5175 02:55:33,219 --> 02:55:36,219 zoning of what is already 5176 02:55:45,300 --> 02:55:45,731 there. 5177 02:55:45,731 --> 02:55:48,167 The context of the conference 5178 02:55:48,167 --> 02:55:48,801 and zoning ordinance, a lot of 5179 02:55:48,801 --> 02:55:49,134 moving pieces are going on at 5180 02:55:49,134 --> 02:55:50,680 the same time. 5181 02:55:50,680 --> 02:55:51,360 Can you speak of how this will 5182 02:55:51,360 --> 02:55:53,205 fit into that and knowing the 5183 02:55:53,205 --> 02:55:55,205 encumbrance of 5184 02:56:05,384 --> 02:56:07,285 with the historic overlay 5185 02:56:07,285 --> 02:56:08,820 district will not change the 5186 02:56:08,820 --> 02:56:10,355 underlying zoning for the areas 5187 02:56:10,355 --> 02:56:11,556 that will be considered and 5188 02:56:11,556 --> 02:56:13,425 included in the boundaries for 5189 02:56:13,425 --> 02:56:15,394 the parties historical district 5190 02:56:15,394 --> 02:56:17,262 will not run into that issues 5191 02:56:17,262 --> 02:56:18,430 that it is something we shared 5192 02:56:18,430 --> 02:56:20,265 with the community the other 5193 02:56:20,265 --> 02:56:22,300 piece I wanted to note with 5194 02:56:22,300 --> 02:56:23,401 regard to the national register 5195 02:56:23,401 --> 02:56:25,270 and estate process that 5196 02:56:25,270 --> 02:56:27,306 boundary and the boundary that 5197 02:56:27,306 --> 02:56:28,807 will be used for the county's 5198 02:56:28,807 --> 02:56:30,409 historical district they MAY 5199 02:56:30,409 --> 02:56:32,343 not necessarily be the same 5200 02:56:32,343 --> 02:56:32,744 they do not have to be the 5201 02:56:32,744 --> 02:56:34,146 same. 5202 02:56:34,146 --> 02:56:34,312 Additionally with regards to 5203 02:56:34,312 --> 02:56:35,780 the 5204 02:56:35,780 --> 02:56:37,780 national register process 5205 02:56:39,584 --> 02:56:40,786 which again, that ultimately 5206 02:56:40,786 --> 02:56:42,587 the state has to sign off on 5207 02:56:42,587 --> 02:56:44,550 that then it goes to the 5208 02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:46,391 national park service. For 5209 02:56:46,391 --> 02:56:47,250 that ultimate approval, the 5210 02:56:47,250 --> 02:56:50,250 state uses a specific criteria 5211 02:56:52,397 --> 02:56:54,400 in terms of what types of 5212 02:56:54,400 --> 02:56:55,501 properties are eligible to be 5213 02:56:55,501 --> 02:56:57,501 considered for those 5214 02:56:59,238 --> 02:57:01,206 nominations. Eric it's an 5215 02:57:01,206 --> 02:57:02,474 expert on that but that is 5216 02:57:02,474 --> 02:57:04,275 something we've also discussed 5217 02:57:04,275 --> 02:57:06,211 with the community that the 5218 02:57:06,211 --> 02:57:08,213 national register boundary MAY 5219 02:57:08,213 --> 02:57:09,380 be different than what the 5220 02:57:09,380 --> 02:57:11,349 counties boundary it could be 5221 02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:13,385 the same for the county's 5222 02:57:13,385 --> 02:57:15,520 boundary does not necessarily 5223 02:57:15,520 --> 02:57:16,721 have to follow the national 5224 02:57:16,721 --> 02:57:18,423 register entries. I just wanted 5225 02:57:18,423 --> 02:57:20,291 to provide that clarification 5226 02:57:20,291 --> 02:57:22,193 but to get to your first 5227 02:57:22,193 --> 02:57:23,428 question, the overlay district 5228 02:57:23,428 --> 02:57:25,297 essentially will sit on top of 5229 02:57:25,297 --> 02:57:25,563 the existing zoning for that 5230 02:57:25,563 --> 02:57:27,310 community. 5231 02:57:27,310 --> 02:57:28,667 >> Kenny Boddye: to follow up I 5232 02:57:28,667 --> 02:57:30,602 would imagine the overlay will 5233 02:57:30,602 --> 02:57:32,603 follow the counties boundary if 5234 02:57:32,603 --> 02:57:34,390 they are different they will 5235 02:57:34,390 --> 02:57:37,390 not follow the state right. 5236 02:57:40,440 --> 02:57:41,179 >> we could if we wanted to 5237 02:57:41,179 --> 02:57:43,810 with the community support 5238 02:57:43,810 --> 02:57:44,215 follow the national register 5239 02:57:44,215 --> 02:57:46,840 boundary but again because 5240 02:57:46,840 --> 02:57:47,285 these very specific criteria 5241 02:57:47,285 --> 02:57:49,153 their heavy other areas that 5242 02:57:49,153 --> 02:57:52,153 for the counties boundaries for 5243 02:57:52,257 --> 02:57:53,625 the actual historic overlay 5244 02:57:53,625 --> 02:57:55,327 district it MAY be different it 5245 02:57:55,327 --> 02:57:57,362 MAY be expanded what have you 5246 02:57:57,362 --> 02:57:59,297 sell during the last community 5247 02:57:59,297 --> 02:58:00,398 meeting in SEPTEMBER there was 5248 02:58:00,398 --> 02:58:02,367 something that we raised. 5249 02:58:02,367 --> 02:58:06,567 We said are there areas that we 5250 02:58:10,408 --> 02:58:12,377 should consider that maybe 5251 02:58:12,377 --> 02:58:14,413 outside of the boundaries that 5252 02:58:14,413 --> 02:58:15,579 have been identified for the 5253 02:58:15,579 --> 02:58:17,382 national register combination 5254 02:58:17,382 --> 02:58:19,384 that is still undergoing 5255 02:58:19,384 --> 02:58:20,518 review. That is something we 5256 02:58:20,518 --> 02:58:20,786 will be working out with the 5257 02:58:20,786 --> 02:58:22,587 community. 5258 02:58:22,587 --> 02:58:24,489 >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate 5259 02:58:24,489 --> 02:58:26,524 that my final point is thank 5260 02:58:26,524 --> 02:58:28,459 you ultimately in order was 5261 02:58:28,459 --> 02:58:30,462 community interest from this I 5262 02:58:30,462 --> 02:58:31,662 appreciate how you been feeling 5263 02:58:31,662 --> 02:58:33,598 using it because ultimately we 5264 02:58:33,598 --> 02:58:37,798 don't have we MAY not adopt the 5265 02:58:40,939 --> 02:58:42,974 same exact boundaries as the 5266 02:58:42,974 --> 02:58:44,142 state and national but knowing 5267 02:58:44,142 --> 02:58:46,440 that we MAY be more inclusive 5268 02:58:46,440 --> 02:58:48,847 frankly than they are and be 5269 02:58:48,847 --> 02:58:49,948 very clear with the committee 5270 02:58:49,948 --> 02:58:51,916 on that process that we don't 5271 02:58:51,916 --> 02:58:53,885 naturally have to handshake we 5272 02:58:53,885 --> 02:58:55,190 MAY end up having to recognize 5273 02:58:55,190 --> 02:58:56,888 and put the overlay over a 5274 02:58:56,888 --> 02:58:58,890 larger area versus a smaller. 5275 02:58:58,890 --> 02:58:59,123 >> Tanya Washington: that's 5276 02:58:59,123 --> 02:59:01,123 correct. 5277 02:59:01,893 --> 02:59:02,126 >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor 5278 02:59:02,126 --> 02:59:02,894 stewart. 5279 02:59:02,894 --> 02:59:04,894 >> George Stewart: 5280 02:59:04,896 --> 02:59:06,310 hello MS. Washington good 5281 02:59:06,310 --> 02:59:06,897 afternoon just a simple 5282 02:59:06,897 --> 02:59:08,897 question. 5283 02:59:08,900 --> 02:59:10,100 The necessity to spend $85,000 5284 02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:11,135 on a consultant for the long 5285 02:59:11,135 --> 02:59:13,400 range planning commission is 5286 02:59:13,400 --> 02:59:14,906 there not a skill set in house 5287 02:59:14,906 --> 02:59:16,307 to do this yourself to develop 5288 02:59:16,307 --> 02:59:18,109 the design guidelines. 5289 02:59:18,109 --> 02:59:19,878 >> Tanya Washington: it's a 5290 02:59:19,878 --> 02:59:21,312 combination of specialized 5291 02:59:21,312 --> 02:59:23,147 skills and staff capacity. 5292 02:59:23,147 --> 02:59:24,882 This product is being managed 5293 02:59:24,882 --> 02:59:25,950 by within our countywide 5294 02:59:25,950 --> 02:59:27,118 planning division and 5295 02:59:27,118 --> 02:59:28,919 specifically within our 5296 02:59:28,919 --> 02:59:31,919 cultural resources team gave a 5297 02:59:37,194 --> 02:59:38,429 very packed work plan. 5298 02:59:38,429 --> 02:59:40,331 Additionally with regards to 5299 02:59:40,331 --> 02:59:42,233 design guidelines it goes into 5300 02:59:42,233 --> 02:59:43,234 much greater level of 5301 02:59:43,234 --> 02:59:45,203 specificity such as 5302 02:59:45,203 --> 02:59:46,470 architectural design and other 5303 02:59:46,470 --> 02:59:48,573 matters, that is really more of 5304 02:59:48,573 --> 02:59:49,707 a specialized skill set. 5305 02:59:49,707 --> 02:59:51,309 In order for us to produce 5306 02:59:51,309 --> 02:59:53,277 these design guidelines in a 5307 02:59:53,277 --> 02:59:55,246 timely fashion, along with the 5308 02:59:55,246 --> 02:59:56,848 zta it would take us longer if 5309 02:59:56,848 --> 02:59:58,349 our own staff had to we do have 5310 02:59:58,349 --> 03:00:00,218 some architectural design 5311 03:00:00,218 --> 03:00:02,219 backgrounds within the team, 5312 03:00:02,219 --> 03:00:03,320 but they have a lot of other 5313 03:00:03,320 --> 03:00:05,356 projects they are managing such 5314 03:00:05,356 --> 03:00:07,225 as the conference of zoning 5315 03:00:07,225 --> 03:00:08,459 ordinance update the 5316 03:00:08,459 --> 03:00:10,459 sustainability resilient zta 5317 03:00:10,762 --> 03:00:12,230 the historic overlay district 5318 03:00:12,230 --> 03:00:14,231 on the conference of plan 5319 03:00:14,231 --> 03:00:15,432 amendment's it would be a major 5320 03:00:15,432 --> 03:00:17,234 limitation on our ability to 5321 03:00:17,234 --> 03:00:18,736 continue to advance those 5322 03:00:18,736 --> 03:00:20,338 projects if we had to pull to 5323 03:00:20,338 --> 03:00:22,240 staff that MAY have that skill 5324 03:00:22,240 --> 03:00:23,408 set to work on this as it's 5325 03:00:23,408 --> 03:00:25,343 much more efficient for us to 5326 03:00:25,343 --> 03:00:27,244 hire a consultant to do this 5327 03:00:27,244 --> 03:00:28,745 type of work regularly and get 5328 03:00:28,745 --> 03:00:30,448 this done in a timely fashion 5329 03:00:30,448 --> 03:00:32,450 so we can focus on creating 5330 03:00:32,450 --> 03:00:33,551 zoning text amendment which the 5331 03:00:33,551 --> 03:00:36,551 same team has to produce. 5332 03:00:38,956 --> 03:00:40,157 >> George Stewart: thank you. 5333 03:00:40,157 --> 03:00:42,600 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 5334 03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:43,930 so very much we don't have any 5335 03:00:43,930 --> 03:00:44,962 more questions really 5336 03:00:44,962 --> 03:00:45,763 appreciate this MS. Washington 5337 03:00:45,763 --> 03:00:47,763 thank you. 5338 03:00:47,765 --> 03:00:49,300 last speaker supervisor stewart 5339 03:00:49,300 --> 03:00:52,103 went to see if you want to move 5340 03:00:52,103 --> 03:00:52,870 this forward. 5341 03:00:52,870 --> 03:00:53,270 >> George Stewart: 5342 03:00:53,270 --> 03:00:55,270 so moved. 5343 03:00:56,730 --> 03:00:56,240 >> second 5344 03:00:56,240 --> 03:00:58,209 . 5345 03:00:58,209 --> 03:00:58,742 >> Chair Jefferson: that was 5346 03:00:58,742 --> 03:01:00,742 simultaneous. 5347 03:01:01,145 --> 03:01:04,145 I thought it was supervisor 5348 03:01:04,482 --> 03:01:05,482 franklin fred I said franklin 5349 03:01:05,482 --> 03:01:07,482 franklin fred. 5350 03:01:07,718 --> 03:01:08,720 [Laughter] Any further 5351 03:01:08,720 --> 03:01:10,720 discussion. 5352 03:01:12,560 --> 03:01:13,224 On this agenda item. 5353 03:01:13,224 --> 03:01:16,824 Let's go ahead and take our 5354 03:01:23,267 --> 03:01:25,267 vote. 5355 03:01:26,370 --> 03:01:28,370 Vote unanimous. 5356 03:01:34,879 --> 03:01:36,790 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you. 5357 03:01:36,790 --> 03:01:37,882 >> thank you very much MADAM 5358 03:01:37,882 --> 03:01:39,500 Chair and to director 5359 03:01:39,500 --> 03:01:40,885 washington and eric thank you 5360 03:01:40,885 --> 03:01:42,152 for the presentation MADAM 5361 03:01:42,152 --> 03:01:43,987 Chair members of the board with 5362 03:01:43,987 --> 03:01:45,889 1030 manassas park is asked 5363 03:01:45,889 --> 03:01:47,892 that the county review 5364 03:01:47,892 --> 03:01:49,892 remaining requirements 5365 03:01:49,894 --> 03:01:51,894 associated with 1989 voluntary 5366 03:01:51,962 --> 03:01:53,898 settlement agreement that is we 5367 03:01:53,898 --> 03:01:54,298 are asking for the board's 5368 03:01:54,298 --> 03:01:55,499 consideration 5369 03:01:55,499 --> 03:01:55,999 . 5370 03:01:55,999 --> 03:01:56,601 >> Chair Jefferson: all 5371 03:01:56,601 --> 03:01:58,535 right 5372 03:01:58,535 --> 03:01:58,836 thank you anybody have any 5373 03:01:58,836 --> 03:02:00,836 questions? 5374 03:02:02,573 --> 03:02:04,573 Any additional information? 5375 03:02:06,577 --> 03:02:06,877 Is that you supervisor vega 5376 03:02:06,877 --> 03:02:08,378 . 5377 03:02:08,378 --> 03:02:09,947 >> Yesli Vega: I will just move 5378 03:02:09,947 --> 03:02:11,482 it forward it's in the coles 5379 03:02:11,482 --> 03:02:12,883 district. 5380 03:02:12,883 --> 03:02:14,651 >> Kenny Boddye: second. 5381 03:02:14,651 --> 03:02:15,519 >> Chair Jefferson: any further 5382 03:02:15,519 --> 03:02:16,520 discussion? 5383 03:02:16,520 --> 03:02:18,920 Et me call for 5384 03:02:20,524 --> 03:02:22,524 the vote. 5385 03:02:24,728 --> 03:02:25,929 >> vote unanimous. 5386 03:02:25,929 --> 03:02:28,329 >> Chair Jefferson: all right 5387 03:02:28,399 --> 03:02:31,735 thank you. No we have a 5388 03:02:31,735 --> 03:02:34,135 supervisors time normally I 5389 03:02:39,276 --> 03:02:41,244 break out calendar changes I 5390 03:02:41,244 --> 03:02:42,446 don't know if anybody has any 5391 03:02:42,446 --> 03:02:44,381 questions on 11 e or 11 f if 5392 03:02:44,381 --> 03:02:46,250 not I will go ahead and just do 5393 03:02:46,250 --> 03:02:48,252 everything in one motion. 5394 03:02:48,252 --> 03:02:48,519 Hold on I guess supervisor 5395 03:02:48,519 --> 03:02:50,488 franklin. 5396 03:02:50,488 --> 03:02:52,422 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: we 5397 03:02:52,422 --> 03:02:56,622 can talk about item 11 f we are 5398 03:03:01,498 --> 03:03:02,566 canceling the meeting 5399 03:03:02,566 --> 03:03:04,566 . 5400 03:03:04,702 --> 03:03:06,570 >> Chair Jefferson: and adding 5401 03:03:06,570 --> 03:03:07,871 a one on. The applicant 5402 03:03:07,871 --> 03:03:09,773 scheduled for tuesday, DECEMBER 5403 03:03:09,773 --> 03:03:11,642 2 has pulled their obligation 5404 03:03:11,642 --> 03:03:12,575 there is nothing else lined up 5405 03:03:12,575 --> 03:03:14,770 for that day. 5406 03:03:14,770 --> 03:03:15,712 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I 5407 03:03:15,712 --> 03:03:17,614 just want to make sure for the 5408 03:03:17,614 --> 03:03:18,782 planning department I guess I 5409 03:03:18,782 --> 03:03:20,684 would imagine we have cases 5410 03:03:20,684 --> 03:03:21,852 ready to go I just want to make 5411 03:03:21,852 --> 03:03:24,455 sure if there are other cases 5412 03:03:24,455 --> 03:03:26,590 we can get them out of the way. 5413 03:03:26,590 --> 03:03:28,458 >> Tanya Washington: we already 5414 03:03:28,458 --> 03:03:29,727 have cases scheduled through 5415 03:03:29,727 --> 03:03:31,428 the end of this year including 5416 03:03:31,428 --> 03:03:33,330 the DECEMBER 16 meeting it is 5417 03:03:33,330 --> 03:03:34,865 really over timing of there's a 5418 03:03:34,865 --> 03:03:36,467 lot of things that have to get 5419 03:03:36,467 --> 03:03:37,968 lined up we have to get them by 5420 03:03:37,968 --> 03:03:39,103 a certain timeframe in order to 5421 03:03:39,103 --> 03:03:40,971 then produce the staff report 5422 03:03:40,971 --> 03:03:42,500 and get it in the queue for 5423 03:03:42,500 --> 03:03:44,500 specific board dates. 5424 03:03:44,400 --> 03:03:47,477 This is really more of a matter 5425 03:03:47,477 --> 03:03:49,312 of his health the church is 5426 03:03:49,312 --> 03:03:50,513 described we do so have other 5427 03:03:50,513 --> 03:03:53,513 cases for DECEMBER 16 we have 5428 03:03:53,917 --> 03:03:55,118 several cases coming. 5429 03:03:55,118 --> 03:03:56,953 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 5430 03:03:56,953 --> 03:03:58,155 thank you for that MS. 5431 03:03:58,155 --> 03:04:00,570 Washington because I talked to 5432 03:04:00,570 --> 03:04:01,925 her about this I just want to 5433 03:04:01,925 --> 03:04:03,600 make sure we are moving cases 5434 03:04:03,600 --> 03:04:04,928 along we've had several 5435 03:04:04,928 --> 03:04:06,950 meetings or a couple of 5436 03:04:06,950 --> 03:04:07,930 canceled for 7 pm I just want 5437 03:04:07,930 --> 03:04:09,400 to make sure we're getting 5438 03:04:09,400 --> 03:04:11,670 through the land use cases. 5439 03:04:11,670 --> 03:04:13,467 >> Tanya Washington: we are 5440 03:04:16,873 --> 03:04:18,842 very much getting through the 5441 03:04:18,842 --> 03:04:20,810 land use cases just today the 5442 03:04:20,810 --> 03:04:22,746 board approved for cases during 5443 03:04:22,746 --> 03:04:25,146 a consolidated agenda the 5444 03:04:25,548 --> 03:04:26,490 majority of the cases the board 5445 03:04:26,490 --> 03:04:26,984 takes action on is the 5446 03:04:26,984 --> 03:04:29,520 consolidated agenda it's only 5447 03:04:29,520 --> 03:04:31,880 in the afternoon is a small 5448 03:04:31,880 --> 03:04:31,888 number of cases that are the 5449 03:04:31,888 --> 03:04:33,924 evening cases we definitely 5450 03:04:33,924 --> 03:04:35,792 have cases already looking into 5451 03:04:35,792 --> 03:04:37,694 dates for next year we will 5452 03:04:37,694 --> 03:04:40,940 definitely make progress to 5453 03:04:43,900 --> 03:04:45,101 continue to keep cases just one 5454 03:04:45,101 --> 03:04:47,104 less thing you should looking 5455 03:04:47,104 --> 03:04:48,838 at the planning commission's 5456 03:04:48,838 --> 03:04:50,400 agenda which is even more 5457 03:04:50,400 --> 03:04:51,975 filled. Always roll over to the 5458 03:04:51,975 --> 03:04:52,942 board we are definitely getting 5459 03:04:52,942 --> 03:04:54,942 through our cases. 5460 03:04:54,945 --> 03:04:56,847 >> Chair Jefferson: I just want 5461 03:04:56,847 --> 03:04:58,281 to piggyback on that I swear I 5462 03:04:58,281 --> 03:04:59,949 am not asking supervisor 5463 03:04:59,949 --> 03:05:01,985 franklin to see the thing about 5464 03:05:01,985 --> 03:05:04,254 these questions myself I want 5465 03:05:04,254 --> 03:05:05,856 to know it does original and 7b 5466 03:05:05,856 --> 03:05:07,123 we were doing and off cycle 5467 03:05:07,123 --> 03:05:09,250 budget request we want to make 5468 03:05:09,250 --> 03:05:10,593 sure that planning team has the 5469 03:05:10,593 --> 03:05:11,761 resources that they need to 5470 03:05:11,761 --> 03:05:13,697 continue to move these cases. 5471 03:05:13,697 --> 03:05:15,632 Again the consolidated land-use 5472 03:05:15,632 --> 03:05:17,533 agenda we do get through quite 5473 03:05:17,533 --> 03:05:18,634 a few things the cases in the 5474 03:05:18,634 --> 03:05:19,836 evening they can be more 5475 03:05:19,836 --> 03:05:21,605 contentious I know in DECEMBER 5476 03:05:21,605 --> 03:05:23,539 we will have at least one 5477 03:05:23,539 --> 03:05:25,542 late-night because of a case. 5478 03:05:25,542 --> 03:05:28,542 I really do appreciate planning 5479 03:05:29,111 --> 03:05:31,470 and it gets awfully will have 5480 03:05:31,470 --> 03:05:32,949 more stuff we would have to 5481 03:05:32,949 --> 03:05:34,251 cancel some in evening sessions 5482 03:05:34,251 --> 03:05:35,510 moving forward. 5483 03:05:35,510 --> 03:05:38,510 Anyone else want to speak? 5484 03:05:42,992 --> 03:05:45,280 Albright I heard that. 5485 03:05:45,280 --> 03:05:46,563 Didn't need a microphone thank 5486 03:05:46,563 --> 03:05:47,997 you so very much. I would like 5487 03:05:47,997 --> 03:05:49,199 to go ahead and ask for a 5488 03:05:49,199 --> 03:05:50,200 motion for 11 a-11 f. 5489 03:05:50,200 --> 03:05:52,200 >> so moved. 5490 03:05:54,771 --> 03:05:54,871 >> second 5491 03:05:54,871 --> 03:05:56,839 . 5492 03:05:56,839 --> 03:05:58,839 >> Chair Jefferson: any 5493 03:05:58,875 --> 03:06:01,275 additional comments let's go 5494 03:06:04,470 --> 03:06:07,470 ahead and take the vote. 5495 03:06:10,720 --> 03:06:11,888 >> vote unanimous. 5496 03:06:11,888 --> 03:06:13,857 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 5497 03:06:13,857 --> 03:06:15,725 very much now we will go around 5498 03:06:15,725 --> 03:06:17,726 the deus I will actually start 5499 03:06:17,726 --> 03:06:19,620 with our newest supervisor 5500 03:06:19,620 --> 03:06:20,697 supervisor stewart anything you 5501 03:06:20,697 --> 03:06:22,310 would like to do for 5502 03:06:22,310 --> 03:06:22,866 supervisors time. 5503 03:06:22,866 --> 03:06:23,799 >> George Stewart: yes. 5504 03:06:23,799 --> 03:06:24,734 I have a card trick. 5505 03:06:24,734 --> 03:06:25,835 [Laughter]. 5506 03:06:25,835 --> 03:06:27,835 His past 5507 03:06:28,471 --> 03:06:30,471 saturday, OCTOBER 25, the 5508 03:06:35,711 --> 03:06:37,680 gainesville district had held a 5509 03:06:37,680 --> 03:06:39,549 bulk dumpster day there was no 5510 03:06:39,549 --> 03:06:40,983 siding by the trashing code. 5511 03:06:40,983 --> 03:06:43,552 In our office parking lot. 5512 03:06:43,552 --> 03:06:45,554 The following results from the 5513 03:06:45,554 --> 03:06:47,554 gainesville district dumpster 5514 03:06:48,491 --> 03:06:51,491 day we collected 5080 pounds or 5515 03:06:53,530 --> 03:06:55,930 2.55 tons of trash and 2160 5516 03:07:05,410 --> 03:07:07,760 pounds or 1.608 tons of metal a 5517 03:07:07,760 --> 03:07:09,110 total of 3.63 tons of discarded 5518 03:07:09,110 --> 03:07:10,913 household items and metal were 5519 03:07:10,913 --> 03:07:12,781 collected from the community. 5520 03:07:12,781 --> 03:07:14,250 Also I want to announce we will 5521 03:07:14,250 --> 03:07:15,885 be playing a lot of mariah 5522 03:07:15,885 --> 03:07:17,787 carey's christmas album there 5523 03:07:17,787 --> 03:07:19,822 is a holiday party at the 5524 03:07:19,822 --> 03:07:21,822 gainesville district office. 5525 03:07:21,824 --> 03:07:22,958 We will have an open house on 5526 03:07:22,958 --> 03:07:24,894 friday we will have an open 5527 03:07:24,894 --> 03:07:27,294 house on friday, DECEMBER 12. 5528 03:07:28,864 --> 03:07:33,640 From 5 pm-8 pm be there or be 5529 03:07:34,237 --> 03:07:35,404 square. 5530 03:07:35,404 --> 03:07:37,240 >> Chair Jefferson: all right 5531 03:07:37,240 --> 03:07:40,240 that was short and simple. 5532 03:07:40,343 --> 03:07:41,577 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 5533 03:07:41,577 --> 03:07:43,479 thank you MADAM Chair good 5534 03:07:43,479 --> 03:07:44,947 evening everyone. OCTOBER 29 I 5535 03:07:44,947 --> 03:07:48,547 was my staff and I participated 5536 03:07:49,352 --> 03:07:51,253 in the 2025 salute the armed 5537 03:07:51,253 --> 03:07:54,253 forces with oliver north who 5538 03:07:58,261 --> 03:07:59,462 was the wonderful guest speaker 5539 03:07:59,462 --> 03:08:01,331 we are grateful for his service 5540 03:08:01,331 --> 03:08:02,531 he is a decorated marine and 5541 03:08:02,531 --> 03:08:06,131 thank you to the chamber for 5542 03:08:11,607 --> 03:08:13,375 the event. If then on NOVEMBER 5543 03:08:13,375 --> 03:08:14,476 7 had the opportunity of 5544 03:08:14,476 --> 03:08:16,579 cutting the cake with the 5545 03:08:16,579 --> 03:08:17,580 marine corps again thank you 5546 03:08:17,580 --> 03:08:19,381 col. Colegate for inviting me 5547 03:08:19,381 --> 03:08:20,549 and to be able to be in the 5548 03:08:20,549 --> 03:08:21,317 presence of the oldest marine 5549 03:08:21,317 --> 03:08:22,485 sgt. 5550 03:08:22,485 --> 03:08:24,353 Jim wescott who is 104 years 5551 03:08:24,353 --> 03:08:25,855 young yes and the youngest 5552 03:08:25,855 --> 03:08:27,490 marine private joseph tele age 5553 03:08:27,490 --> 03:08:29,491 19 it was an exciting day wendy 5554 03:08:29,491 --> 03:08:31,160 but the cake was good. NOVEMBER 5555 03:08:31,160 --> 03:08:34,160 11-NOVEMBER 8-11th I persuaded 5556 03:08:35,197 --> 03:08:36,365 in the annual virginia 5557 03:08:36,365 --> 03:08:38,200 association of counties 5558 03:08:38,200 --> 03:08:39,402 conference with my colleagues 5559 03:08:39,402 --> 03:08:43,380 in bath county we had a great 5560 03:08:43,380 --> 03:08:44,173 time I want to say 5561 03:08:44,173 --> 03:08:46,573 congratulations to our new 5562 03:08:47,442 --> 03:08:48,677 chair supervisor victor angry 5563 03:08:48,677 --> 03:08:52,381 happy man thank you so much for 5564 03:08:52,381 --> 03:08:53,582 serving in that capacity. 5565 03:08:53,582 --> 03:08:54,950 On the eighth I attended my 5566 03:08:54,950 --> 03:08:57,350 staff attended the annual 5567 03:09:01,690 --> 03:09:03,659 anniversary gala for. 5568 03:09:03,659 --> 03:09:05,628 [Listing names] Or to thank 5569 03:09:05,628 --> 03:09:06,962 them for the information I was 5570 03:09:06,962 --> 03:09:07,763 not able to attend myself 5571 03:09:07,763 --> 03:09:09,665 because I was at. 5572 03:09:09,665 --> 03:09:10,900 [Listing names] My chief of 5573 03:09:10,900 --> 03:09:13,300 staff presented a proclamation 5574 03:09:13,669 --> 03:09:15,671 to them for their dedication 5575 03:09:15,671 --> 03:09:16,872 innovation and community impact 5576 03:09:16,872 --> 03:09:18,674 prince william county and 5577 03:09:18,674 --> 03:09:20,675 manassas county to serve the 5578 03:09:20,675 --> 03:09:21,877 development disabled they are 5579 03:09:21,877 --> 03:09:23,678 great at it on the 12th I was 5580 03:09:23,678 --> 03:09:24,813 able to participate in a 5581 03:09:24,813 --> 03:09:27,813 ceremony with one of our 5582 03:09:30,720 --> 03:09:32,688 citizens dora mohammed who 5583 03:09:32,688 --> 03:09:33,889 allowed me to principate in a 5584 03:09:33,889 --> 03:09:35,757 doctoral study department 5585 03:09:35,757 --> 03:09:38,260 outreach strategy program that 5586 03:09:38,260 --> 03:09:39,662 talked about sustainability and 5587 03:09:39,662 --> 03:09:40,796 interfaith engagement in local 5588 03:09:40,796 --> 03:09:42,731 government it was very 5589 03:09:42,731 --> 03:09:44,700 exciting. MADAM Chair thank you 5590 03:09:44,700 --> 03:09:46,134 for being there with us and 5591 03:09:46,134 --> 03:09:47,669 congratulations to DR. Dora 5592 03:09:47,669 --> 03:09:49,238 mohammed my body my friend. 5593 03:09:49,238 --> 03:09:51,140 NOVEMBER 13, I was so proud the 5594 03:09:51,140 --> 03:09:53,442 economic develop at department 5595 03:09:53,442 --> 03:09:55,244 had their annual make your mark 5596 03:09:55,244 --> 03:09:58,244 award ceremony and is a 5597 03:10:01,650 --> 03:10:02,885 celebration to christina when 5598 03:10:02,885 --> 03:10:04,953 and her staff you actually rock 5599 03:10:04,953 --> 03:10:06,822 it was an exceptional program I 5600 03:10:06,822 --> 03:10:08,757 was really grateful that you 5601 03:10:08,757 --> 03:10:10,792 asked me to be one of the guest 5602 03:10:10,792 --> 03:10:12,661 speakers there at the program 5603 03:10:12,661 --> 03:10:13,729 on NOVEMBER 14 my staff 5604 03:10:13,729 --> 03:10:15,970 attended the abc risk academy 5605 03:10:15,970 --> 03:10:17,970 42 graduation congratulations 5606 03:10:22,170 --> 03:10:24,720 to the strong students that 5607 03:10:24,720 --> 03:10:25,473 were able to finish the program 5608 03:10:25,473 --> 03:10:27,476 and to feel good about 5609 03:10:27,476 --> 03:10:29,477 themselves and the things that 5610 03:10:29,477 --> 03:10:30,779 they do 25 graduates from 5611 03:10:30,779 --> 03:10:33,179 prince william county academy. 5612 03:10:34,483 --> 03:10:38,830 We are very proud of that. 5613 03:10:39,721 --> 03:10:41,724 Yesterday NOVEMBER 17, we had 5614 03:10:41,724 --> 03:10:42,925 our potomac district town hall 5615 03:10:42,925 --> 03:10:44,760 would like to send my sincere 5616 03:10:44,760 --> 03:10:46,694 thanks to and appreciation to 5617 03:10:46,694 --> 03:10:47,862 the economic development 5618 03:10:47,862 --> 03:10:49,764 committee team the planning 5619 03:10:49,764 --> 03:10:52,100 team transportation team and 5620 03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:54,103 prince william county water. 5621 03:10:54,103 --> 03:10:56,503 They were exceptional rib 70 5622 03:10:59,841 --> 03:11:00,908 guests there they all said that 5623 03:11:00,908 --> 03:11:02,770 they garnered a lot of 5624 03:11:02,770 --> 03:11:03,979 information from them so thank 5625 03:11:03,979 --> 03:11:05,847 you so much for coming to the 5626 03:11:05,847 --> 03:11:07,480 district and making sure that 5627 03:11:07,480 --> 03:11:08,917 people are aware and educated 5628 03:11:08,917 --> 03:11:11,190 of what's going on in the 5629 03:11:11,190 --> 03:11:12,854 district. Upcoming events 5630 03:11:12,854 --> 03:11:14,856 NOVEMBER 20, we look forward to 5631 03:11:14,856 --> 03:11:16,959 having the opportunity to 5632 03:11:16,959 --> 03:11:18,600 present the military veterans 5633 03:11:18,600 --> 03:11:20,610 and public safety council and 5634 03:11:20,610 --> 03:11:21,863 women's leadership conference. 5635 03:11:21,863 --> 03:11:24,465 I will be participating in 5636 03:11:24,465 --> 03:11:26,465 that. 5637 03:11:26,535 --> 03:11:28,300 On the 22nd, 3's polar express 5638 03:11:28,300 --> 03:11:30,403 holiday parade in dumfries 5639 03:11:31,840 --> 03:11:32,908 bring your santa claus hat and 5640 03:11:32,908 --> 03:11:34,109 come and principate because it 5641 03:11:34,109 --> 03:11:37,846 will start at 9 am on the 22nd 5642 03:11:37,846 --> 03:11:40,846 it's a saturday in dumfries. 5643 03:11:40,883 --> 03:11:44,483 I just want to thank region 5644 03:11:50,425 --> 03:11:52,360 eight for reelecting me to the 5645 03:11:52,360 --> 03:11:53,661 virginia association of 5646 03:11:53,661 --> 03:11:55,430 counties board again. I wanted 5647 03:11:55,430 --> 03:11:57,365 to continue in serving for 5648 03:11:57,365 --> 03:11:58,467 prince william county and as 5649 03:11:58,467 --> 03:12:00,468 the chair of health and human 5650 03:12:00,468 --> 03:12:01,603 resources that's all have until 5651 03:12:01,603 --> 03:12:03,438 then happy thanks giving. 5652 03:12:03,438 --> 03:12:04,906 I have 45 seconds. 5653 03:12:04,906 --> 03:12:06,374 I'm also delighted to serve as 5654 03:12:06,374 --> 03:12:08,774 the vice chair northern 5655 03:12:09,710 --> 03:12:11,713 virginia and the rc preterm 5656 03:12:11,713 --> 03:12:13,150 25/26 that is excelling as well 5657 03:12:13,150 --> 03:12:14,716 that's all have really MADAM 5658 03:12:14,716 --> 03:12:15,716 Chair thank you so much. 5659 03:12:15,716 --> 03:12:16,817 > 5660 03:12:16,817 --> 03:12:19,217 Chair Jefferson: all right 5661 03:12:19,854 --> 03:12:20,655 thank you so much supervisor 5662 03:12:20,655 --> 03:12:22,123 boddye. 5663 03:12:22,123 --> 03:12:23,658 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you 5664 03:12:23,658 --> 03:12:25,660 MADAM Chair I will go in 5665 03:12:25,660 --> 03:12:27,663 reverse order of events first 5666 03:12:27,663 --> 03:12:28,663 want to thank everyone who came 5667 03:12:28,663 --> 03:12:29,865 out last night to occoquan 5668 03:12:29,865 --> 03:12:32,000 elementary for old bridge road 5669 03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:33,434 123 old bridge rd. 5670 03:12:33,434 --> 03:12:35,300 Public information meeting 5671 03:12:35,300 --> 03:12:37,380 really big kudos to the 5672 03:12:37,380 --> 03:12:39,700 transportation staff powell and 5673 03:12:39,700 --> 03:12:41,900 his team that cannot do support 5674 03:12:41,900 --> 03:12:45,209 we got a lot of good feedback 5675 03:12:45,880 --> 03:12:47,148 on some two very important 5676 03:12:47,148 --> 03:12:49,160 intersections on the old bridge 5677 03:12:49,160 --> 03:12:50,985 road corridor really glad that 5678 03:12:50,985 --> 03:12:52,887 so many folks cannot and have 5679 03:12:52,887 --> 03:12:54,890 some really good feedback and 5680 03:12:54,890 --> 03:12:55,890 conversation for us as we 5681 03:12:55,890 --> 03:12:57,125 continue to look at ways to 5682 03:12:57,125 --> 03:12:58,893 alleviate traffic and increase 5683 03:12:58,893 --> 03:13:00,893 safety in pedestrian 5684 03:13:00,929 --> 03:13:03,798 connectivity and them one of 5685 03:13:03,798 --> 03:13:04,799 the most important corridors in 5686 03:13:04,799 --> 03:13:06,340 the occoquan district. Also got 5687 03:13:06,340 --> 03:13:07,802 a chance to sit in on the joint 5688 03:13:07,802 --> 03:13:10,202 cog metro board meeting 5689 03:13:10,905 --> 03:13:12,874 yesterday both boards did 5690 03:13:12,874 --> 03:13:14,175 indeed adopt the dmv moves 5691 03:13:14,175 --> 03:13:16,110 initiative which does not touch 5692 03:13:16,110 --> 03:13:18,790 us as much as it touches the 5693 03:13:18,790 --> 03:13:19,914 inner core but it does set up a 5694 03:13:19,914 --> 03:13:21,883 scheme to hopefully stabilize 5695 03:13:21,883 --> 03:13:23,180 metro and also continue talking 5696 03:13:23,180 --> 03:13:24,552 about regional transit 5697 03:13:24,552 --> 03:13:26,521 hopefully there will be some 5698 03:13:26,521 --> 03:13:28,890 fruits of that effort that will 5699 03:13:28,890 --> 03:13:29,691 hopefully touch bre and be able 5700 03:13:29,691 --> 03:13:32,691 to establish some more stable 5701 03:13:33,695 --> 03:13:35,496 libel and frequent transit all 5702 03:13:35,496 --> 03:13:37,232 the way down here in prince 5703 03:13:37,232 --> 03:13:39,200 william county doses those in 5704 03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:41,600 other jurisdictions. Also had 5705 03:13:49,444 --> 03:13:51,446 the opportunity to pass friday 5706 03:13:51,446 --> 03:13:53,447 to be part of the swearing-in 5707 03:13:53,447 --> 03:13:54,682 ceremony for our new colleague 5708 03:13:54,682 --> 03:13:57,385 supervisor stuart it was really 5709 03:13:57,385 --> 03:13:57,852 great to meet his family I 5710 03:13:57,852 --> 03:13:58,719 should've brought my 5711 03:13:58,719 --> 03:14:01,119 four-year-old I didn't realize 5712 03:14:01,456 --> 03:14:03,124 you were going to bring your 5713 03:14:03,124 --> 03:14:04,625 four-year-olds. We have to 5714 03:14:04,625 --> 03:14:06,460 rectify that at some point I 5715 03:14:06,460 --> 03:14:07,561 was really happy to see that 5716 03:14:07,561 --> 03:14:09,564 historic moment for you I 5717 03:14:09,564 --> 03:14:11,665 wanted to celebrate you in that 5718 03:14:11,665 --> 03:14:13,468 regard. Also friday in the 5719 03:14:13,468 --> 03:14:15,503 morning I had a chance to go to 5720 03:14:15,503 --> 03:14:17,380 alongside my colleagues to the 5721 03:14:17,380 --> 03:14:19,474 ferc housing work session which 5722 03:14:19,474 --> 03:14:23,740 it was really productive it is 5723 03:14:23,310 --> 03:14:23,978 part of a new initiative to set 5724 03:14:23,978 --> 03:14:25,646 aside and create a strategic 5725 03:14:25,646 --> 03:14:27,615 plan for the northern virginia 5726 03:14:27,615 --> 03:14:29,517 regional commission on an issue 5727 03:14:29,517 --> 03:14:31,190 that I know is near and dear to 5728 03:14:31,190 --> 03:14:32,619 a lot of our hearts housing now 5729 03:14:32,619 --> 03:14:34,555 in the rc can step up and help 5730 03:14:34,555 --> 03:14:35,723 play more regional role in 5731 03:14:35,723 --> 03:14:37,759 helping all of the northern 5732 03:14:37,759 --> 03:14:39,527 virginia jurisdictions tackle 5733 03:14:39,527 --> 03:14:40,795 and find good policy and 5734 03:14:40,795 --> 03:14:43,195 messaging around housing that 5735 03:14:43,564 --> 03:14:43,765 was really great opportunity as 5736 03:14:43,765 --> 03:14:45,566 well. 5737 03:14:45,566 --> 03:14:46,768 Finally in terms of events i 5738 03:14:46,768 --> 03:14:48,702 think that is almost dead. 5739 03:14:48,702 --> 03:14:50,571 The last thing I will say on 5740 03:14:50,571 --> 03:14:52,400 events as supervisor bailey 5741 03:14:52,400 --> 03:14:53,707 said this our last meeting 5742 03:14:53,707 --> 03:14:55,576 before the thanksgiving holiday 5743 03:14:55,576 --> 03:14:56,811 I want to wish everybody a 5744 03:14:56,811 --> 03:14:59,460 great thanksgiving last thing I 5745 03:14:59,460 --> 03:15:00,648 will say on DECEMBER 2 when we 5746 03:15:00,648 --> 03:15:04,848 come back we will be looking at 5747 03:15:09,924 --> 03:15:11,124 the affordable dwelling unit 5748 03:15:11,124 --> 03:15:13,260 before the housing trust fund 5749 03:15:13,260 --> 03:15:14,928 staff put a lot of work into 5750 03:15:14,928 --> 03:15:16,931 that I know the met with 5751 03:15:16,931 --> 03:15:18,320 offices over the past month or 5752 03:15:18,320 --> 03:15:19,233 so because we did adopt 5753 03:15:19,233 --> 03:15:21,135 students back during the summer 5754 03:15:21,135 --> 03:15:25,335 I know we are near the finish 5755 03:15:25,839 --> 03:15:27,740 line on that. 5756 03:15:27,740 --> 03:15:29,100 I will be sending an email to 5757 03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:30,845 my colleagues shortly people 5758 03:15:30,845 --> 03:15:32,346 talk about some findings my 5759 03:15:32,346 --> 03:15:33,848 staff and I found recently in 5760 03:15:33,848 --> 03:15:35,490 regards to that and some 5761 03:15:35,490 --> 03:15:36,984 conversations we've had with 5762 03:15:36,984 --> 03:15:38,852 liza johnson and jones docket 5763 03:15:38,852 --> 03:15:40,855 about brief conversations with 5764 03:15:40,855 --> 03:15:42,560 ken executive as well so we are 5765 03:15:42,560 --> 03:15:43,925 almost there there are couple 5766 03:15:43,925 --> 03:15:45,126 of tweaks I would like to 5767 03:15:45,126 --> 03:15:47,280 consider before we adapt before 5768 03:15:47,280 --> 03:15:48,896 the housing trust fund policy 5769 03:15:48,896 --> 03:15:50,300 guidelines one of which is 5770 03:15:50,300 --> 03:15:51,898 loudoun county back in JUNE 5771 03:15:51,898 --> 03:15:53,367 adopted I should say revised 5772 03:15:53,367 --> 03:15:55,200 and reformed the policy to 5773 03:15:55,200 --> 03:15:56,937 develop more streamlined and 5774 03:15:56,937 --> 03:15:58,105 more friendly to getting awards 5775 03:15:58,105 --> 03:16:00,108 out faster frankly lot easier 5776 03:16:00,108 --> 03:16:02,508 to understand from applicants 5777 03:16:03,411 --> 03:16:04,478 and also this idea that some 5778 03:16:04,478 --> 03:16:06,747 other localities in the 5779 03:16:06,747 --> 03:16:08,448 commonwealth allow for the 5780 03:16:08,448 --> 03:16:10,417 process of actually reporting 5781 03:16:10,417 --> 03:16:11,652 company being administrative 5782 03:16:11,652 --> 03:16:13,588 process versus going through 5783 03:16:13,588 --> 03:16:15,522 the board again not proposing 5784 03:16:15,522 --> 03:16:17,591 anything for tonight but want 5785 03:16:17,591 --> 03:16:19,426 to give my colleagues heads up 5786 03:16:19,426 --> 03:16:20,961 about that will send a pretty 5787 03:16:20,961 --> 03:16:22,463 verbose everybody is used about 5788 03:16:22,463 --> 03:16:23,697 email for me here shortly I 5789 03:16:23,697 --> 03:16:23,897 want to put that on everyone's 5790 03:16:23,897 --> 03:16:25,599 radar 5791 03:16:25,599 --> 03:16:26,700 before I sent it out thank 5792 03:16:26,700 --> 03:16:28,568 you MADAM Chair. 5793 03:16:28,568 --> 03:16:29,670 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 5794 03:16:29,670 --> 03:16:31,571 so very much I will save the 5795 03:16:31,571 --> 03:16:32,739 best for last I will go over to 5796 03:16:32,739 --> 03:16:34,508 supervisor gordy. 5797 03:16:34,508 --> 03:16:35,442 >> Tom Gordy: that was 5798 03:16:35,442 --> 03:16:36,644 insulting. 5799 03:16:36,644 --> 03:16:37,445 [Laughter] Scored 5800 03:16:37,445 --> 03:16:38,445 the rest of 5801 03:16:38,445 --> 03:16:38,678 you are second best to last 5802 03:16:38,678 --> 03:16:40,678 spring. 5803 03:16:43,384 --> 03:16:44,718 >> Tom Gordy: [Laughter] 5804 03:16:44,718 --> 03:16:46,718 Chopped liver. 5805 03:16:51,592 --> 03:16:52,827 There we go. 5806 03:16:52,827 --> 03:16:54,595 Quite a few things going on I 5807 03:16:54,595 --> 03:16:56,290 attended the prince william 5808 03:16:56,290 --> 03:16:57,598 chambers salute the armed 5809 03:16:57,598 --> 03:16:58,699 forces really appreciated col. 5810 03:16:58,699 --> 03:17:00,601 North's comments did a 5811 03:17:00,601 --> 03:17:02,102 fantastic job talking about our 5812 03:17:02,102 --> 03:17:03,704 veterans and service members 5813 03:17:03,704 --> 03:17:05,605 and their families and their 5814 03:17:05,605 --> 03:17:07,441 service and sacrifice on behalf 5815 03:17:07,441 --> 03:17:09,441 of our nation. 5816 03:17:09,443 --> 03:17:10,644 It was really great event and 5817 03:17:10,644 --> 03:17:11,645 congratulations to the chamber 5818 03:17:11,645 --> 03:17:12,246 for that event. 5819 03:17:12,246 --> 03:17:13,480 On the 5820 03:17:13,480 --> 03:17:15,480 fifth on 5 NOVEMBER. 5821 03:17:22,656 --> 03:17:24,658 [Unclear audio] The knoxville 5822 03:17:24,658 --> 03:17:25,792 horn baker lines this can be 5823 03:17:25,792 --> 03:17:27,794 something that we will be 5824 03:17:27,794 --> 03:17:31,265 talking more about in a couple 5825 03:17:31,265 --> 03:17:33,167 of weeks as we look at these 5826 03:17:33,167 --> 03:17:34,635 lines do cross lot of county 5827 03:17:34,635 --> 03:17:35,969 property we need to have a 5828 03:17:35,969 --> 03:17:37,969 conversation about that. 5829 03:17:37,971 --> 03:17:40,207 On NOVEMBER 8 I attended the 5830 03:17:40,207 --> 03:17:42,420 american legion post 14 veteran 5831 03:17:42,420 --> 03:17:43,877 appreciation luncheon it was a 5832 03:17:43,877 --> 03:17:46,480 great day to learn about 5833 03:17:46,480 --> 03:17:49,480 program they are raising funds 5834 03:17:53,920 --> 03:17:55,210 for to build veterans homes to 5835 03:17:55,210 --> 03:17:56,856 meet the veteran homeless 5836 03:17:56,856 --> 03:17:59,856 issues on their property in 5837 03:18:05,565 --> 03:18:06,933 manassas. 5838 03:18:06,933 --> 03:18:08,635 great effort they have got 5839 03:18:08,635 --> 03:18:10,571 there. Really appreciate the 5840 03:18:10,571 --> 03:18:12,572 invite to participate in that 5841 03:18:12,572 --> 03:18:14,574 luncheon. On 9 NOVEMBER, my 5842 03:18:14,574 --> 03:18:16,610 church, oakdale baptist church 5843 03:18:16,610 --> 03:18:17,430 celebrated its hundred 65th 5844 03:18:17,430 --> 03:18:18,712 anniversary. 5845 03:18:18,712 --> 03:18:20,113 It was great to for that 5846 03:18:20,113 --> 03:18:21,715 homecoming and to continue to 5847 03:18:21,715 --> 03:18:23,317 see the community of faith 5848 03:18:23,317 --> 03:18:25,717 continue to remain strong. 5849 03:18:34,561 --> 03:18:35,762 On 10 NOVEMBER first of all 5850 03:18:35,762 --> 03:18:37,630 happy birthday brains 250, 5851 03:18:37,630 --> 03:18:38,899 there you go. That day was 5852 03:18:38,899 --> 03:18:42,499 honored to join a lot of 5853 03:18:43,203 --> 03:18:45,205 veterans at t clay woods 5854 03:18:45,205 --> 03:18:46,473 elementary school veterans day 5855 03:18:46,473 --> 03:18:49,409 celebration and parade they do 5856 03:18:49,409 --> 03:18:50,310 a great job in celebrating our 5857 03:18:50,310 --> 03:18:52,211 veterans and bring out the 5858 03:18:52,211 --> 03:18:53,413 veterans from the knoxville 5859 03:18:53,413 --> 03:18:55,248 bristol committee also tended 5860 03:18:55,248 --> 03:18:57,284 to make your mark event on the 5861 03:18:57,284 --> 03:18:58,651 13th a great evening lot of 5862 03:18:58,651 --> 03:19:00,186 great brentsville company 5863 03:19:00,186 --> 03:19:01,421 recognized that night whether 5864 03:19:01,421 --> 03:19:05,210 they were one or whether they 5865 03:19:05,425 --> 03:19:07,461 were in the final running. 5866 03:19:07,461 --> 03:19:08,661 Really congratulation all of 5867 03:19:08,661 --> 03:19:11,610 the community businesses that 5868 03:19:15,669 --> 03:19:17,504 are certainly making a 5869 03:19:17,504 --> 03:19:18,739 difference for prince william 5870 03:19:18,739 --> 03:19:20,640 county. This past saturday I 5871 03:19:20,640 --> 03:19:22,676 was joined by chair jefferson 5872 03:19:22,676 --> 03:19:25,479 and supervisor vega at the pump 5873 03:19:25,479 --> 03:19:27,130 track drain ribbon-cutting 5874 03:19:27,130 --> 03:19:28,682 really appreciate the work of 5875 03:19:28,682 --> 03:19:30,550 parks foundation in helping to 5876 03:19:30,550 --> 03:19:32,486 raise the funds get that to 5877 03:19:32,486 --> 03:19:33,587 fruition I tell you to watch 5878 03:19:33,587 --> 03:19:34,954 three-year-old kids on a 5879 03:19:34,954 --> 03:19:36,189 bicycle riding up and down 5880 03:19:36,189 --> 03:19:38,125 these pump trucks it's amazing. 5881 03:19:38,125 --> 03:19:41,125 It was more amazing watching 5882 03:19:41,161 --> 03:19:42,596 the old guys do it. 5883 03:19:42,596 --> 03:19:44,197 Congratulations to the 5884 03:19:44,197 --> 03:19:45,398 community sorry serving as a 5885 03:19:45,398 --> 03:19:47,266 tourist destination as we have 5886 03:19:47,266 --> 03:19:48,969 people coming from outside the 5887 03:19:48,969 --> 03:19:50,203 county to participate. 5888 03:19:50,203 --> 03:19:52,105 mr. Shorter was there as well 5889 03:19:52,105 --> 03:19:52,406 thank you MR. Schlueter coming 5890 03:19:52,406 --> 03:19:53,507 out as well. 5891 03:19:53,507 --> 03:19:55,507 Ouple of items 5892 03:19:55,508 --> 03:19:57,510 on DECEMBER 8 we will be having 5893 03:19:57,510 --> 03:19:58,645 a listening session with chair 5894 03:19:58,645 --> 03:19:59,612 jefferson. 5895 03:19:59,612 --> 03:19:59,813 Regarding the 5896 03:19:59,813 --> 03:20:01,781 . 5897 03:20:01,781 --> 03:20:04,781 [Listing names] Will take place 5898 03:20:09,189 --> 03:20:11,190 from 630 from 6:30 pm to 8 pm 5899 03:20:11,190 --> 03:20:13,192 at the knoxville firehouse in 5900 03:20:13,192 --> 03:20:14,427 knoxville we want to invite the 5901 03:20:14,427 --> 03:20:16,296 community to come out and share 5902 03:20:16,296 --> 03:20:18,297 their perspectives amount want 5903 03:20:18,297 --> 03:20:18,565 to wish everybody a happy thing 5904 03:20:18,565 --> 03:20:20,367 skipping. 5905 03:20:20,367 --> 03:20:21,367 >> Margaret Angela Franklin: 5906 03:20:21,367 --> 03:20:23,202 thank you. 5907 03:20:23,202 --> 03:20:26,802 As mentioned by several of my 5908 03:20:28,740 --> 03:20:28,541 colleagues I also attended the 5909 03:20:28,541 --> 03:20:30,541 . 5910 03:20:30,544 --> 03:20:31,544 [Listing names] Conference also 5911 03:20:31,544 --> 03:20:32,645 just want to say 5912 03:20:32,645 --> 03:20:34,547 congratulations to our new 5913 03:20:34,547 --> 03:20:36,547 PRESIDENT Supervisor victor 5914 03:20:36,549 --> 03:20:38,551 angry those not familiar with. 5915 03:20:38,551 --> 03:20:39,685 [Listing names] Incredibly 5916 03:20:39,685 --> 03:20:41,621 important group basically 5917 03:20:41,621 --> 03:20:43,523 leading on behalf of all local 5918 03:20:43,523 --> 03:20:44,991 elected officials for the 5919 03:20:44,991 --> 03:20:47,260 entire commonwealth to the 5920 03:20:47,260 --> 03:20:48,495 general assembly it's a big job 5921 03:20:48,495 --> 03:20:50,363 obviously you have this board a 5922 03:20:50,363 --> 03:20:52,298 bus and looking forward to 5923 03:20:52,298 --> 03:20:55,298 bridging some gaps with the 5924 03:20:55,835 --> 03:20:57,804 general assembly looking 5925 03:20:57,804 --> 03:20:59,706 forward to supporting you 5926 03:20:59,706 --> 03:21:01,741 however I can also want to 5927 03:21:01,741 --> 03:21:03,741 congratulate supervisor kathy 5928 03:21:03,743 --> 03:21:04,744 smith from fairfax county who 5929 03:21:04,744 --> 03:21:06,120 is the new second vice 5930 03:21:06,120 --> 03:21:07,881 PRESIDENT Of congratulations 5931 03:21:07,881 --> 03:21:09,882 all of us are going to be able 5932 03:21:09,882 --> 03:21:11,750 to work really well together. 5933 03:21:11,750 --> 03:21:13,753 Also on the 12 hosted a 5934 03:21:13,753 --> 03:21:16,153 community meeting with several 5935 03:21:17,560 --> 03:21:18,591 communities in the foundation 5936 03:21:18,591 --> 03:21:20,159 of soil management program for 5937 03:21:20,159 --> 03:21:23,759 them to ask questions to give 5938 03:21:24,630 --> 03:21:26,132 an update on where things stand 5939 03:21:26,132 --> 03:21:27,800 so thank you to county staff 5940 03:21:27,800 --> 03:21:29,702 who was able to be there to 5941 03:21:29,702 --> 03:21:31,871 help answer some of those 5942 03:21:31,871 --> 03:21:32,805 questions. On the 13th I also 5943 03:21:32,805 --> 03:21:34,674 attended the make your mark 5944 03:21:34,674 --> 03:21:36,676 event hosted by economic 5945 03:21:36,676 --> 03:21:38,644 development committee great 5946 03:21:38,644 --> 03:21:40,460 event also just want to thank 5947 03:21:40,460 --> 03:21:41,647 carlos castro a total 5948 03:21:41,647 --> 03:21:43,647 supermarket cooperates to 5949 03:21:44,484 --> 03:21:46,352 stores in woodbridge on winning 5950 03:21:46,352 --> 03:21:48,354 one of the wards very proud of 5951 03:21:48,354 --> 03:21:49,722 all of our woodbridge 5952 03:21:49,722 --> 03:21:51,457 businesses. Also just want to 5953 03:21:51,457 --> 03:21:52,558 point out on the 15th, this 5954 03:21:52,558 --> 03:21:54,393 past weekend I hosted two 5955 03:21:54,393 --> 03:21:56,793 cleanups with keep prince 5956 03:21:57,563 --> 03:21:58,731 william beautiful on separate 5957 03:21:58,731 --> 03:22:00,566 structures of route 11 on the 5958 03:22:00,566 --> 03:22:03,936 northern end and one on the 5959 03:22:03,936 --> 03:22:05,872 southern and I would do thank 5960 03:22:05,872 --> 03:22:07,873 keep prince william beautiful 5961 03:22:07,873 --> 03:22:09,800 two helped organize and all the 5962 03:22:09,800 --> 03:22:09,875 volunteers who came out for 5963 03:22:09,875 --> 03:22:11,100 that. 5964 03:22:11,100 --> 03:22:12,912 Also I want to thank our local 5965 03:22:12,912 --> 03:22:14,914 chapter of omega psi phi 5966 03:22:14,914 --> 03:22:16,382 fraternity for their annual 5967 03:22:16,382 --> 03:22:17,917 scholarship banquet we were 5968 03:22:17,917 --> 03:22:19,151 also joined by former defense 5969 03:22:19,151 --> 03:22:21,551 secretary lloyd alston who 5970 03:22:22,488 --> 03:22:24,389 shared some remarks that was a 5971 03:22:24,389 --> 03:22:24,957 great event I just want to 5972 03:22:24,957 --> 03:22:26,859 thank the omega for the 5973 03:22:26,859 --> 03:22:28,327 incredible work to do here 5974 03:22:28,327 --> 03:22:29,495 locally. 5975 03:22:29,495 --> 03:22:32,495 Lastly in terms of recent 5976 03:22:33,766 --> 03:22:35,534 events I was able to be joined 5977 03:22:35,534 --> 03:22:37,536 by supervisor angry last night 5978 03:22:37,536 --> 03:22:39,539 for the gen. Assembly's 5979 03:22:39,539 --> 03:22:41,740 appropriations committee annual 5980 03:22:41,740 --> 03:22:42,408 retreat which was held here in 5981 03:22:42,408 --> 03:22:43,609 prince william county. 5982 03:22:43,609 --> 03:22:45,411 It was great to meet other 5983 03:22:45,411 --> 03:22:48,411 members of the committee to 5984 03:22:51,617 --> 03:22:53,585 talk about casually what some 5985 03:22:53,585 --> 03:22:55,588 of our priorities are with the 5986 03:22:55,588 --> 03:22:56,956 general assembly is looking to 5987 03:22:56,956 --> 03:22:59,356 do potentially, the next 5988 03:23:02,227 --> 03:23:04,227 session. 5989 03:23:04,230 --> 03:23:05,331 I just want to thank the 5990 03:23:05,331 --> 03:23:07,233 delegation and also other 5991 03:23:07,233 --> 03:23:09,234 members of the preparations 5992 03:23:09,234 --> 03:23:10,669 committee for having their 5993 03:23:10,669 --> 03:23:12,304 retreat here in town for 5994 03:23:12,304 --> 03:23:13,472 upcoming events very quickly on 5995 03:23:13,472 --> 03:23:15,341 the 21st, and a stone bridge 5996 03:23:15,341 --> 03:23:16,508 will be participating once 5997 03:23:16,508 --> 03:23:18,908 again validate treat lighting 5998 03:23:19,212 --> 03:23:21,213 at stonebridge towncenter the 5999 03:23:21,213 --> 03:23:22,781 holiday artesian market and 6000 03:23:22,781 --> 03:23:24,383 activities will start at 5 pm, 6001 03:23:24,383 --> 03:23:26,252 the tree lighting will be at 7 6002 03:23:26,252 --> 03:23:28,253 pm so feel free to come and 6003 03:23:28,253 --> 03:23:30,255 join and on DECEMBER 12, I will 6004 03:23:30,255 --> 03:23:31,323 be hosting the annual senior 6005 03:23:31,323 --> 03:23:33,723 holiday luncheon at the 6006 03:23:36,528 --> 03:23:38,397 woodbridge senior center I look 6007 03:23:38,397 --> 03:23:40,265 forward to seeing chris shorter 6008 03:23:40,265 --> 03:23:41,600 and liza johnson and whoever 6009 03:23:41,600 --> 03:23:43,402 else on the county staff was to 6010 03:23:43,402 --> 03:23:45,270 come and dance with our seniors 6011 03:23:45,270 --> 03:23:47,273 that will be fun allegedly 6012 03:23:47,273 --> 03:23:48,407 later that day I am going to 6013 03:23:48,407 --> 03:23:50,276 gainesville holiday party I 6014 03:23:50,276 --> 03:23:51,510 will tell you supervisor weir 6015 03:23:51,510 --> 03:23:53,445 and I had a thing where we had 6016 03:23:53,445 --> 03:23:55,347 the bourbon and eggnog you have 6017 03:23:55,347 --> 03:23:57,283 just a little bit of shoes to 6018 03:23:57,283 --> 03:23:59,285 fill their we always had a good 6019 03:23:59,285 --> 03:24:00,485 time looking forward to joining 6020 03:24:00,485 --> 03:24:02,454 you there welcome to the team. 6021 03:24:02,454 --> 03:24:04,289 >> Chair Jefferson: do you want 6022 03:24:04,289 --> 03:24:06,240 to say that out loud. 6023 03:24:06,240 --> 03:24:07,892 All) What is your event I want 6024 03:24:07,892 --> 03:24:09,962 to write that down so I can 6025 03:24:09,962 --> 03:24:10,129 compare holiday parties for 6026 03:24:10,129 --> 03:24:11,296 . 6027 03:24:11,296 --> 03:24:13,198 >> Yesli Vega: I thought we 6028 03:24:13,198 --> 03:24:15,100 were saving the best for last. 6029 03:24:15,100 --> 03:24:17,100 [Laughter] Undertaking let's 6030 03:24:17,102 --> 03:24:18,270 dive into it further I want to 6031 03:24:18,270 --> 03:24:20,739 thank our sponsors who were 6032 03:24:20,739 --> 03:24:22,475 able to donate 100 coats for 6033 03:24:22,475 --> 03:24:24,875 our annual coles district 6034 03:24:37,189 --> 03:24:38,357 co-chair this year I'm not sure 6035 03:24:38,357 --> 03:24:40,259 if it's government shut down 6036 03:24:40,259 --> 03:24:42,161 what's going on there's a lot 6037 03:24:42,161 --> 03:24:44,195 of need in our community if you 6038 03:24:44,195 --> 03:24:45,664 have generous donors that are 6039 03:24:45,664 --> 03:24:48,640 constantly asking during this 6040 03:24:48,167 --> 03:24:49,301 time year what they do to help 6041 03:24:49,301 --> 03:24:51,203 I would consider talking about 6042 03:24:51,203 --> 03:24:53,204 the various ways they can help 6043 03:24:53,204 --> 03:24:54,339 the community. Thank you to the 6044 03:24:54,339 --> 03:24:56,174 generous donors in every big 6045 03:24:56,174 --> 03:24:57,409 amount we certainly know that 6046 03:24:57,409 --> 03:24:59,311 those courts will be a blessing 6047 03:24:59,311 --> 03:25:01,213 for children they will not be 6048 03:25:01,213 --> 03:25:02,614 cold this winter season. On 6049 03:25:02,614 --> 03:25:04,283 NOVEMBER 5 I attended the 6050 03:25:04,283 --> 03:25:06,185 dineen transmission line open 6051 03:25:06,185 --> 03:25:07,953 house I attended the press 6052 03:25:07,953 --> 03:25:09,221 conference I also attended the 6053 03:25:09,221 --> 03:25:11,189 formal open house session I 6054 03:25:11,189 --> 03:25:13,191 wanted to hear for myself and 6055 03:25:13,191 --> 03:25:14,659 listen and talk to some of my 6056 03:25:14,659 --> 03:25:15,494 colleagues on the dais we 6057 03:25:15,494 --> 03:25:16,394 expressed that mutual 6058 03:25:16,394 --> 03:25:18,229 agreement 6059 03:25:18,229 --> 03:25:20,231 that we believe those 6060 03:25:20,231 --> 03:25:21,433 transmission plans should go 6061 03:25:21,433 --> 03:25:23,368 underground ethical position we 6062 03:25:23,368 --> 03:25:25,304 will continue to have I want to 6063 03:25:25,304 --> 03:25:26,538 thank all of the members of the 6064 03:25:26,538 --> 03:25:29,241 committee that showed up and it 6065 03:25:29,241 --> 03:25:30,409 to the organizers of the press 6066 03:25:30,409 --> 03:25:33,211 conference leading up to the 6067 03:25:33,211 --> 03:25:34,846 open house on 11/9 I attended. 6068 03:25:34,846 --> 03:25:36,348 [Listing names] It was a long 6069 03:25:36,348 --> 03:25:38,350 essay long because I was in 6070 03:25:38,350 --> 03:25:40,219 such good company that I didn't 6071 03:25:40,219 --> 03:25:41,519 want it to end up missing that 6072 03:25:41,519 --> 03:25:43,388 sarcastically I mean it. We had 6073 03:25:43,388 --> 03:25:45,223 a great time prince william 6074 03:25:45,223 --> 03:25:46,724 county was represented well I 6075 03:25:46,724 --> 03:25:48,427 want to give a special shout 6076 03:25:48,427 --> 03:25:50,295 out to nikki always goes above 6077 03:25:50,295 --> 03:25:52,231 and beyond ensuring we are 6078 03:25:52,231 --> 03:25:53,431 taken care of and to glenn who 6079 03:25:53,431 --> 03:25:55,367 does a great job at advocating 6080 03:25:55,367 --> 03:25:57,369 for priorities here in prince 6081 03:25:57,369 --> 03:25:59,237 william county and of course 6082 03:25:59,237 --> 03:25:59,538 the county attorney who keeps 6083 03:25:59,538 --> 03:26:01,373 us in line. 6084 03:26:01,373 --> 03:26:03,241 The second set of eyes that we 6085 03:26:03,241 --> 03:26:05,210 have with county executive. 6086 03:26:05,210 --> 03:26:07,212 Thank you for joining us at. 6087 03:26:07,212 --> 03:26:09,247 [Listing names] On the 12th, i 6088 03:26:09,247 --> 03:26:11,249 attended the veterans docket 6089 03:26:11,249 --> 03:26:13,217 ceremony with supervisor angry 6090 03:26:13,217 --> 03:26:14,419 and supervisor franklin at our 6091 03:26:14,419 --> 03:26:16,354 last board meeting I talked 6092 03:26:16,354 --> 03:26:18,323 about the drug treatment court 6093 03:26:18,323 --> 03:26:20,259 and how incredible it is to be 6094 03:26:20,259 --> 03:26:22,226 able to put his faith in these 6095 03:26:22,226 --> 03:26:24,229 folks achieving such a great 6096 03:26:24,229 --> 03:26:25,363 accomplishment I will put a 6097 03:26:25,363 --> 03:26:28,233 plug-in if you have not gone to 6098 03:26:28,233 --> 03:26:29,434 the veterans docket ceremony I 6099 03:26:29,434 --> 03:26:31,336 recommend that you do because 6100 03:26:31,336 --> 03:26:33,238 it is really good to see that 6101 03:26:33,238 --> 03:26:34,372 the work that this program does 6102 03:26:34,372 --> 03:26:36,375 and how folks are able to 6103 03:26:36,375 --> 03:26:38,243 overcome and continue to become 6104 03:26:38,243 --> 03:26:39,410 productive members of society. 6105 03:26:39,410 --> 03:26:41,312 N the 13th, I had my early 6106 03:26:41,312 --> 03:26:43,214 thanks giving lunch with folks 6107 03:26:43,214 --> 03:26:44,749 at the manassas health and 6108 03:26:44,749 --> 03:26:46,418 rehab center for bill who want 6109 03:26:46,418 --> 03:26:48,219 to volunteer or have kids high 6110 03:26:48,219 --> 03:26:49,354 schoolers thought to help out 6111 03:26:49,354 --> 03:26:51,456 we have a lot of need at 6112 03:26:51,456 --> 03:26:53,358 nursing homes and facilities of 6113 03:26:53,358 --> 03:26:55,260 the sort you don't have loved 6114 03:26:55,260 --> 03:26:56,761 ones during the holiday season 6115 03:26:56,761 --> 03:26:58,363 if you have some spare time I 6116 03:26:58,363 --> 03:27:00,231 would recommend that you go by 6117 03:27:00,231 --> 03:27:01,465 and sit down and have a cuppa 6118 03:27:01,465 --> 03:27:03,501 coffee lunch with these folks 6119 03:27:03,501 --> 03:27:05,336 who would be very blessed to 6120 03:27:05,336 --> 03:27:07,305 have some company I will say 6121 03:27:07,305 --> 03:27:09,306 that joanne is such a blessing 6122 03:27:09,306 --> 03:27:10,474 she's the one that runs this 6123 03:27:10,474 --> 03:27:12,477 program she says that typically 6124 03:27:12,477 --> 03:27:14,312 during NOVEMBER and DECEMBER 6125 03:27:14,312 --> 03:27:15,513 she does not know what to do 6126 03:27:15,513 --> 03:27:17,415 with the amount of people that 6127 03:27:17,415 --> 03:27:19,384 want to come by. She says there 6128 03:27:19,384 --> 03:27:21,319 are other months throughout the 6129 03:27:21,319 --> 03:27:22,754 year where we are lonely and 6130 03:27:22,754 --> 03:27:24,288 nobody comes. You have 12 6131 03:27:24,288 --> 03:27:25,823 months in the year so if you 6132 03:27:25,823 --> 03:27:29,423 have the time or have somebody 6133 03:27:31,563 --> 03:27:33,598 that is interested I recommend 6134 03:27:33,598 --> 03:27:34,799 these organizations. Two 6135 03:27:34,799 --> 03:27:36,601 attended MR. Mark event will 6136 03:27:36,601 --> 03:27:38,350 take it in a different 6137 03:27:38,350 --> 03:27:39,604 direction christina your 6138 03:27:39,604 --> 03:27:40,839 rockstar thank you for putting 6139 03:27:40,839 --> 03:27:42,741 such a great event on also what 6140 03:27:42,741 --> 03:27:44,609 I like trevor I did not know he 6141 03:27:44,609 --> 03:27:46,144 was quite the comedian in my 6142 03:27:46,144 --> 03:27:46,711 opinion he was the highlight of 6143 03:27:46,711 --> 03:27:48,680 the night. 6144 03:27:48,680 --> 03:27:49,848 Of course everybody had won an 6145 03:27:49,848 --> 03:27:51,683 award but he was great thank 6146 03:27:51,683 --> 03:27:53,840 you to victoria from cakes by 6147 03:27:53,840 --> 03:27:54,619 happy eatery was one of my 6148 03:27:54,619 --> 03:27:55,787 guests along with lisa the 6149 03:27:55,787 --> 03:27:55,987 owner of east coast wings and 6150 03:27:55,987 --> 03:27:57,689 grill. 6151 03:27:57,689 --> 03:27:59,591 I attended the pump truck 6152 03:27:59,591 --> 03:28:01,659 opening along with supervisor 6153 03:28:01,659 --> 03:28:02,861 gordy and chair jefferson I 6154 03:28:02,861 --> 03:28:05,629 think this a great addition to 6155 03:28:05,629 --> 03:28:06,797 our parks and recreation 6156 03:28:06,797 --> 03:28:08,733 portfolio when the staff is 6157 03:28:08,733 --> 03:28:10,134 part of anytime we get to it he 6158 03:28:10,134 --> 03:28:13,134 becomes even happier on the 6159 03:28:16,309 --> 03:28:18,209 20th I will be partaking as a 6160 03:28:18,209 --> 03:28:19,411 panelist on the own your voice 6161 03:28:19,411 --> 03:28:21,279 public speaking and leadership 6162 03:28:21,279 --> 03:28:23,381 presence this is hosted by the 6163 03:28:23,381 --> 03:28:25,350 realtors association of prince 6164 03:28:25,350 --> 03:28:27,218 william county and the women's 6165 03:28:27,218 --> 03:28:28,420 council of realtors I want to 6166 03:28:28,420 --> 03:28:30,288 end by quickly inviting 6167 03:28:30,288 --> 03:28:31,422 everybody will not name you I 6168 03:28:31,422 --> 03:28:33,357 will say expect to see every 6169 03:28:33,357 --> 03:28:35,259 member of the board attend the 6170 03:28:35,259 --> 03:28:36,460 coles district annual district 6171 03:28:36,460 --> 03:28:38,362 christmas tree lighting 6172 03:28:38,362 --> 03:28:40,298 ceremony I did have most of the 6173 03:28:40,298 --> 03:28:41,565 board attend last year I think 6174 03:28:41,565 --> 03:28:43,434 it was a good time. I hope to 6175 03:28:43,434 --> 03:28:45,369 see everybody this year it will 6176 03:28:45,369 --> 03:28:47,304 take place on DECEMBER 6 at the 6177 03:28:47,304 --> 03:28:48,506 lucasville school at 5 pm 6178 03:28:48,506 --> 03:28:50,441 lastly, it's been a rough year 6179 03:28:50,441 --> 03:28:52,310 for a lot of us I know you're 6180 03:28:52,310 --> 03:28:56,510 on the dais we had some very 6181 03:28:59,384 --> 03:29:01,319 challenging times in our 6182 03:29:01,319 --> 03:29:03,253 personal lives I just want to 6183 03:29:03,253 --> 03:29:04,522 say that not just in the month 6184 03:29:04,522 --> 03:29:06,290 of NOVEMBER or around at the 6185 03:29:06,290 --> 03:29:08,292 time of things event but 6186 03:29:08,292 --> 03:29:09,561 throughout the whole year I'm 6187 03:29:09,561 --> 03:29:11,295 thankful for the love of my 6188 03:29:11,295 --> 03:29:13,364 family the support of my 6189 03:29:13,364 --> 03:29:15,332 friends a lot of you sit on the 6190 03:29:15,332 --> 03:29:16,500 status despite our political 6191 03:29:16,500 --> 03:29:18,436 differences I just want to let 6192 03:29:18,436 --> 03:29:20,304 the people prince william 6193 03:29:20,304 --> 03:29:21,439 county no there is a lot of 6194 03:29:21,439 --> 03:29:23,307 love lot of respect goes on 6195 03:29:23,307 --> 03:29:24,809 behind the scenes that we MAY 6196 03:29:24,809 --> 03:29:26,510 go at it from time to time on 6197 03:29:26,510 --> 03:29:28,412 the dais but at the end of the 6198 03:29:28,412 --> 03:29:30,314 day we are there for each other 6199 03:29:30,314 --> 03:29:32,316 it is not just words that are 6200 03:29:32,316 --> 03:29:33,517 said it is a true reflection of 6201 03:29:33,517 --> 03:29:35,319 love that has been demonstrated 6202 03:29:35,319 --> 03:29:36,854 to me personally by your 6203 03:29:36,854 --> 03:29:38,455 actions I just want to say I'm 6204 03:29:38,455 --> 03:29:40,458 very thankful for you all and 6205 03:29:40,458 --> 03:29:42,326 wish everybody a happy thanks 6206 03:29:42,326 --> 03:29:43,528 giving hope to see you all at 6207 03:29:43,528 --> 03:29:45,429 the christmas tree lighting 6208 03:29:45,429 --> 03:29:47,364 ceremony school and thank you 6209 03:29:47,364 --> 03:29:48,800 so very much that means all is 6210 03:29:48,800 --> 03:29:50,400 forgiven with what I said 6211 03:29:50,400 --> 03:29:52,403 earlier the best for last. 6212 03:29:52,403 --> 03:29:54,405 Sometimes somebody is to be 6213 03:29:54,405 --> 03:29:55,606 valedictorian for today today 6214 03:29:55,606 --> 03:29:56,674 it is victor angry holland is 6215 03:29:56,674 --> 03:29:58,442 out of order. 6216 03:29:58,442 --> 03:29:59,443 >> there is something I just 6217 03:29:59,443 --> 03:30:00,812 learned. We have an 6218 03:30:00,812 --> 03:30:02,446 announcement from the 6219 03:30:02,446 --> 03:30:04,482 governor's office that we 6220 03:30:04,482 --> 03:30:06,417 received $1.1 million for the 6221 03:30:06,417 --> 03:30:07,551 that goes to the american 6222 03:30:07,551 --> 03:30:09,419 battlefield trust for the 6223 03:30:09,419 --> 03:30:10,888 acquisition of hundred 52.2 6224 03:30:10,888 --> 03:30:12,422 acres at bristow station 6225 03:30:12,422 --> 03:30:14,425 battlefield to further expand 6226 03:30:14,425 --> 03:30:15,659 the bristol battlefield and so 6227 03:30:15,659 --> 03:30:17,495 that was announced today I just 6228 03:30:17,495 --> 03:30:18,663 want to get that out to the 6229 03:30:18,663 --> 03:30:20,565 community thank the governor 6230 03:30:20,565 --> 03:30:22,433 for including the bristol 6231 03:30:22,433 --> 03:30:23,700 battlefield entities grants 6232 03:30:23,700 --> 03:30:25,870 over $15 million was given away 6233 03:30:25,870 --> 03:30:26,360 we got 1.1 million of it thank 6234 03:30:26,360 --> 03:30:28,360 you. 6235 03:30:28,739 --> 03:30:29,106 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 6236 03:30:29,106 --> 03:30:31,106 [Applause]. 6237 03:30:31,776 --> 03:30:34,776 Let's stop trying to steal 6238 03:30:36,914 --> 03:30:37,114 victor's shine 6239 03:30:37,114 --> 03:30:39,114 . 6240 03:30:39,183 --> 03:30:41,185 [Laughter] Ability first of all 6241 03:30:41,185 --> 03:30:42,219 I do look forward to doing the 6242 03:30:42,219 --> 03:30:44,121 town hall with you tom 6243 03:30:44,121 --> 03:30:46,890 supervisor gordy on DECEMBER 8 6244 03:30:46,890 --> 03:30:48,920 because I think there a lot of 6245 03:30:48,920 --> 03:30:48,259 important discussions to be 6246 03:30:48,259 --> 03:30:49,293 had. 6247 03:30:49,293 --> 03:30:51,228 I really want to say that 6248 03:30:51,228 --> 03:30:52,950 prince william county is making 6249 03:30:52,950 --> 03:30:53,563 moves. 6250 03:30:53,563 --> 03:30:55,563 Congratulations to supervisor 6251 03:30:57,000 --> 03:30:58,902 bailey for been named to chair 6252 03:30:58,902 --> 03:31:00,904 at brc. I didn't really want 6253 03:31:00,904 --> 03:31:03,304 uplift supervisor victor angry 6254 03:31:05,208 --> 03:31:05,342 supervisor franklin was saying 6255 03:31:05,342 --> 03:31:07,342 . 6256 03:31:07,344 --> 03:31:09,344 [Listing names] Virginia 6257 03:31:09,346 --> 03:31:11,348 association of counties plays a 6258 03:31:11,348 --> 03:31:11,682 very important role within our 6259 03:31:11,682 --> 03:31:13,416 commonwealth. 6260 03:31:13,416 --> 03:31:15,352 With being the voice of the 6261 03:31:15,352 --> 03:31:16,486 counties legislating for our 6262 03:31:16,486 --> 03:31:18,822 combined advocating for our 6263 03:31:18,822 --> 03:31:20,791 combined legislative agenda so 6264 03:31:20,791 --> 03:31:21,959 the fact that supervisor angry 6265 03:31:21,959 --> 03:31:24,959 has been named the PRESIDENT 6266 03:31:29,232 --> 03:31:31,268 Really is truly a big deal. 6267 03:31:31,268 --> 03:31:32,803 The last person there have been 6268 03:31:32,803 --> 03:31:34,371 three other people from prince 6269 03:31:34,371 --> 03:31:36,273 william county who were named 6270 03:31:36,273 --> 03:31:37,541 the chair last one was john 6271 03:31:37,541 --> 03:31:39,443 jenkins. That was back in 1997. 6272 03:31:39,443 --> 03:31:41,311 We don't want to know I don't 6273 03:31:41,311 --> 03:31:42,413 want to know how old anyone 6274 03:31:42,413 --> 03:31:44,413 was. 6275 03:31:49,860 --> 03:31:50,220 Stop that. 6276 03:31:50,220 --> 03:31:52,189 We are cowboys fans that is 6277 03:31:52,189 --> 03:31:53,390 okay. I really want uplift that 6278 03:31:53,390 --> 03:31:57,128 that is such a big deal it is 6279 03:31:57,128 --> 03:31:59,162 been decades since prince 6280 03:31:59,162 --> 03:32:00,431 william county somebody from 6281 03:32:00,431 --> 03:32:02,366 prince william county has been 6282 03:32:02,366 --> 03:32:04,168 a chair so thank you for taking 6283 03:32:04,168 --> 03:32:06,136 on this tremendous 6284 03:32:06,136 --> 03:32:06,437 responsibility this amazing 6285 03:32:06,437 --> 03:32:08,305 opportunity. 6286 03:32:08,305 --> 03:32:10,975 We are looking forward to great 6287 03:32:10,975 --> 03:32:12,209 things from you this is really 6288 03:32:12,209 --> 03:32:14,110 significant as you've heard 6289 03:32:14,110 --> 03:32:15,979 from a number of people saying 6290 03:32:15,979 --> 03:32:17,114 it I want to use my time to 6291 03:32:17,114 --> 03:32:18,982 really uplift you victor 6292 03:32:18,982 --> 03:32:20,517 because I'm so very proud of 6293 03:32:20,517 --> 03:32:22,850 you I'm so very proud of the 6294 03:32:22,850 --> 03:32:24,210 work you've done you are the 6295 03:32:24,210 --> 03:32:25,522 most senior member of this 6296 03:32:25,522 --> 03:32:27,240 board which that's not saying 6297 03:32:27,240 --> 03:32:28,492 much but that's okay. 6298 03:32:28,492 --> 03:32:30,126 [Laughter] You are the most 6299 03:32:30,126 --> 03:32:32,280 senior member of this board 6300 03:32:32,280 --> 03:32:33,300 looking forward to your 6301 03:32:33,300 --> 03:32:34,230 leadership on. 6302 03:32:34,230 --> 03:32:36,166 [Listing names] With that I 6303 03:32:36,166 --> 03:32:37,300 will turn the floor over to you 6304 03:32:37,300 --> 03:32:39,300 for your update. 6305 03:32:39,300 --> 03:32:39,303 >> Victor Angry: no comments. 6306 03:32:39,303 --> 03:32:40,303 Laughter]. 6307 03:32:40,303 --> 03:32:41,205 Let me open this up it's kind 6308 03:32:41,205 --> 03:32:43,205 of a lot. 6309 03:32:43,740 --> 03:32:45,275 Salute to the armed 6310 03:32:45,275 --> 03:32:48,875 forces great event you heard a 6311 03:32:50,380 --> 03:32:51,348 lot about that you heard a lot 6312 03:32:51,348 --> 03:32:52,783 about that. 6313 03:32:52,783 --> 03:32:54,351 [Listing names] Thank you 6314 03:32:54,351 --> 03:32:56,751 everybody that was there 6315 03:32:57,154 --> 03:32:58,355 veterans docket I got to tell 6316 03:32:58,355 --> 03:33:00,257 you I will say what supervisor 6317 03:33:00,257 --> 03:33:01,391 vega said if you have not 6318 03:33:01,391 --> 03:33:03,327 attended one please attend 6319 03:33:03,327 --> 03:33:05,162 those we must always ensure we 6320 03:33:05,162 --> 03:33:06,330 keep our dockets in prince 6321 03:33:06,330 --> 03:33:08,198 william county are drug docket 6322 03:33:08,198 --> 03:33:09,399 in our veterans docket and the 6323 03:33:09,399 --> 03:33:11,201 other docket they want to 6324 03:33:11,201 --> 03:33:13,903 create we will first that it 6325 03:33:13,903 --> 03:33:15,705 make sure is good I think you 6326 03:33:15,705 --> 03:33:17,707 dockets are missing the MR. 6327 03:33:17,707 --> 03:33:19,709 Mark event christina wang and 6328 03:33:19,709 --> 03:33:21,711 your team outstanding I just 6329 03:33:21,711 --> 03:33:23,713 want to recognize my businesses 6330 03:33:23,713 --> 03:33:25,713 businesses throughout the 6331 03:33:26,450 --> 03:33:28,385 county are very important rj 6332 03:33:28,385 --> 03:33:29,652 sinkler with prince william as 6333 03:33:29,652 --> 03:33:31,621 consider this man was homegrown 6334 03:33:31,621 --> 03:33:33,456 he was a kid it's getting there 6335 03:33:33,456 --> 03:33:34,658 he bought the building is 6336 03:33:34,658 --> 03:33:36,393 teaching kids now remember we 6337 03:33:36,393 --> 03:33:38,128 got the deal with the 6338 03:33:38,128 --> 03:33:39,395 washington capitals during the 6339 03:33:39,395 --> 03:33:41,264 following piece he is doing big 6340 03:33:41,264 --> 03:33:43,133 things robert arrington came to 6341 03:33:43,133 --> 03:33:44,367 the county out of dc he was a 6342 03:33:44,367 --> 03:33:46,169 lawyer and his wife they opened 6343 03:33:46,169 --> 03:33:47,337 the afc urgent care on many 6344 03:33:47,337 --> 03:33:49,239 feel right bundle wendy's I 6345 03:33:49,239 --> 03:33:50,173 forget the grocery store in 6346 03:33:50,173 --> 03:33:51,541 that area. 6347 03:33:51,541 --> 03:33:52,709 [Listing names] School of rock 6348 03:33:52,709 --> 03:33:54,544 he has a school of rock just 6349 03:33:54,544 --> 03:33:55,745 like the movie where he is 6350 03:33:55,745 --> 03:33:58,745 teaching kids and adults and 6351 03:33:59,182 --> 03:34:01,184 make go over there and want to 6352 03:34:01,184 --> 03:34:03,530 play for base with this because 6353 03:34:03,530 --> 03:34:06,530 he just opened his business 6354 03:34:09,659 --> 03:34:11,728 great for is sam holman with 6355 03:34:11,728 --> 03:34:13,730 rock creek properties purchased 6356 03:34:13,730 --> 03:34:16,600 for shopping centers here in 6357 03:34:16,600 --> 03:34:18,635 bell city and started literally 6358 03:34:18,635 --> 03:34:19,802 remodeling refurbishing them he 6359 03:34:19,802 --> 03:34:22,472 did the concrete the asphalt 6360 03:34:22,472 --> 03:34:23,740 the painting of the buildings 6361 03:34:23,740 --> 03:34:25,675 it is been great I just want to 6362 03:34:25,675 --> 03:34:26,609 thank all of them for what they 6363 03:34:26,609 --> 03:34:27,710 have done. 6364 03:34:27,710 --> 03:34:29,679 Then the jail basic academy 6365 03:34:29,679 --> 03:34:31,647 graduation had the privilege of 6366 03:34:31,647 --> 03:34:33,583 being the speaker over there to 6367 03:34:33,583 --> 03:34:35,510 the graduating class which went 6368 03:34:35,510 --> 03:34:36,653 very well. Thank everybody that 6369 03:34:36,653 --> 03:34:37,820 was in the house that was 6370 03:34:37,820 --> 03:34:39,589 really good. 6371 03:34:39,589 --> 03:34:40,757 We've had a few anyway thank 6372 03:34:40,757 --> 03:34:42,759 everybody for being there for 6373 03:34:42,759 --> 03:34:44,661 that welcome to the family to 6374 03:34:44,661 --> 03:34:47,610 our latest 25 employees are 6375 03:34:53,369 --> 03:34:55,371 not. I do want to thank omega 6376 03:34:55,371 --> 03:34:57,407 psi phi fraternity inc. They 6377 03:34:57,407 --> 03:34:59,341 honored me with being a citizen 6378 03:34:59,341 --> 03:35:00,442 of the earth there. That was 6379 03:35:00,442 --> 03:35:02,445 really big deal big event 6380 03:35:02,445 --> 03:35:04,414 didn't know that was happening 6381 03:35:04,414 --> 03:35:05,481 I was very honored to receive 6382 03:35:05,481 --> 03:35:07,881 that award from them. 6383 03:35:08,251 --> 03:35:09,719 I just wanted to mention that 6384 03:35:09,719 --> 03:35:11,254 congratulations to pastor 6385 03:35:11,254 --> 03:35:13,256 sandra james they will do her 6386 03:35:13,256 --> 03:35:14,457 best royal investiture if you 6387 03:35:14,457 --> 03:35:18,570 all for saturday she is now 6388 03:35:18,127 --> 03:35:20,196 running first mountain zion 6389 03:35:20,196 --> 03:35:22,164 church congratulations to her 6390 03:35:22,164 --> 03:35:23,332 I'm sure we will hear more from 6391 03:35:23,332 --> 03:35:25,201 her in attending the church. 6392 03:35:25,201 --> 03:35:26,970 Want to just mention and see 6393 03:35:26,970 --> 03:35:28,838 where we go with this I gave 6394 03:35:28,838 --> 03:35:30,707 the director for the arts 6395 03:35:30,707 --> 03:35:31,941 council to look at dissolving. 6396 03:35:31,941 --> 03:35:34,344 You also saw that memo I don't 6397 03:35:34,344 --> 03:35:38,544 know if this is what it needed 6398 03:35:40,115 --> 03:35:42,118 the next steps for providing 6399 03:35:42,118 --> 03:35:43,353 directly to staff to draft a 6400 03:35:43,353 --> 03:35:45,221 resolution to dissolve it 6401 03:35:45,221 --> 03:35:47,123 within a date they got in here 6402 03:35:47,123 --> 03:35:49,123 basically before 30 JUNE 2026 6403 03:35:49,124 --> 03:35:51,160 I'd like to start the year off 6404 03:35:51,160 --> 03:35:52,662 without being dissolved I don't 6405 03:35:52,662 --> 03:35:57,462 know if you need or you need to 6406 03:35:57,600 --> 03:35:58,801 or we need to come back to that 6407 03:35:58,801 --> 03:36:00,669 I know the last meeting is 6408 03:36:00,669 --> 03:36:02,105 DECEMBER 16 I don't know if we 6409 03:36:02,105 --> 03:36:03,773 can make that decision now I 6410 03:36:03,773 --> 03:36:05,641 want to give you a date because 6411 03:36:05,641 --> 03:36:06,842 we have not given you a date if 6412 03:36:06,842 --> 03:36:08,711 that is something to discuss 6413 03:36:08,711 --> 03:36:10,647 with this board you want to 6414 03:36:10,647 --> 03:36:12,480 talk about that now or hold it 6415 03:36:12,480 --> 03:36:13,149 until DECEMBER 16? 6416 03:36:13,149 --> 03:36:14,984 I don't know if it is a 6417 03:36:14,984 --> 03:36:17,984 directive I'm just trying to 6418 03:36:20,230 --> 03:36:21,124 give a date on that. 6419 03:36:21,124 --> 03:36:22,992 >> it would need to be a 6420 03:36:22,992 --> 03:36:25,392 directive. The directive was 6421 03:36:26,495 --> 03:36:28,464 really a recommendation of 6422 03:36:28,464 --> 03:36:29,465 ultimately you or another board 6423 03:36:29,465 --> 03:36:30,466 member would be 6424 03:36:30,466 --> 03:36:31,700 interested in 6425 03:36:31,700 --> 03:36:33,569 providing the directive we 6426 03:36:33,569 --> 03:36:35,537 would need for it to be done. 6427 03:36:35,537 --> 03:36:37,473 >> Victor Angry: do we want to 6428 03:36:37,473 --> 03:36:39,108 come back on DECEMBER 16 and 6429 03:36:39,108 --> 03:36:39,308 provide that 6430 03:36:39,308 --> 03:36:40,876 . 6431 03:36:40,876 --> 03:36:42,545 >> please share your directive 6432 03:36:42,545 --> 03:36:44,347 language with the board and the 6433 03:36:44,347 --> 03:36:45,547 chief of staff then you can 6434 03:36:45,547 --> 03:36:47,449 come back give the directive. 6435 03:36:47,449 --> 03:36:49,284 >> Victor Angry: let me swing 6436 03:36:49,284 --> 03:36:50,753 through to make sure I got the 6437 03:36:50,753 --> 03:36:52,421 last and the greatest one i 6438 03:36:52,421 --> 03:36:54,290 want to thank michael and ari 6439 03:36:54,290 --> 03:36:57,290 from first lego league metal 6440 03:37:00,896 --> 03:37:02,300 jackets let me tell you 6441 03:37:02,300 --> 03:37:03,966 something we must always 6442 03:37:03,966 --> 03:37:05,868 support these young folks and 6443 03:37:05,868 --> 03:37:10,680 what they are doing they had a 6444 03:37:17,120 --> 03:37:19,480 two day competition we have 6445 03:37:19,480 --> 03:37:20,883 folks coming in from chantilly 6446 03:37:20,883 --> 03:37:22,351 from loudoun county from 6447 03:37:22,351 --> 03:37:23,852 richmond county from forth 6448 03:37:23,852 --> 03:37:25,421 south of richmond county all 6449 03:37:25,421 --> 03:37:27,890 the schools came to be part of 6450 03:37:27,890 --> 03:37:29,910 this competition this lego tech 6451 03:37:29,910 --> 03:37:30,893 competition I would tell you a 6452 03:37:30,893 --> 03:37:32,428 note this is the schools 6453 03:37:32,428 --> 03:37:33,929 program I was there with tracy 6454 03:37:33,929 --> 03:37:35,897 blake yet so schools that was 6455 03:37:35,897 --> 03:37:37,334 amazing what you think michael 6456 03:37:37,334 --> 03:37:38,901 and ari for giving me the 6457 03:37:38,901 --> 03:37:40,135 tour's these two young people 6458 03:37:40,135 --> 03:37:42,710 stood up a lot of the stuff and 6459 03:37:42,710 --> 03:37:43,973 they wanted they have kids and 6460 03:37:43,973 --> 03:37:45,875 they are as young as five years 6461 03:37:45,875 --> 03:37:47,430 old it was pretty amazing to 6462 03:37:47,430 --> 03:37:48,911 watch over the weekend. 6463 03:37:48,911 --> 03:37:50,145 If you have not seen that I 6464 03:37:50,145 --> 03:37:51,980 would ask that we get involved 6465 03:37:51,980 --> 03:37:54,160 and we keep this first lego 6466 03:37:54,160 --> 03:37:56,180 league movement going because 6467 03:37:56,180 --> 03:37:57,887 that is exactly what we need in 6468 03:37:57,887 --> 03:37:59,880 this county for our youth going 6469 03:37:59,880 --> 03:38:00,989 forward. That is it that is my 6470 03:38:00,989 --> 03:38:02,457 I'm done I want to praise what 6471 03:38:02,457 --> 03:38:03,992 they are doing over there that 6472 03:38:03,992 --> 03:38:04,994 is a great thing. I'm done 6473 03:38:04,994 --> 03:38:06,994 thank you venture. 6474 03:40:35,436 --> 03:40:37,338 >> Chair Jefferson: we are back 6475 03:40:37,338 --> 03:40:38,873 before we go to 7 o'clock we 6476 03:40:38,873 --> 03:40:39,474 have some things to finish with 6477 03:40:39,474 --> 03:40:41,474 closed session. 6478 03:40:43,845 --> 03:40:45,130 I'd like to go ahead and 6479 03:40:45,130 --> 03:40:46,915 certify what we discussed we 6480 03:40:46,915 --> 03:40:48,850 will continue in closed session 6481 03:40:48,850 --> 03:40:50,785 we have other additional items 6482 03:40:50,785 --> 03:40:52,320 we were not able to get to for 6483 03:40:52,320 --> 03:40:53,855 the first item I would like to 6484 03:40:53,855 --> 03:40:54,622 guess we will have to do a 6485 03:40:54,622 --> 03:40:56,524 motion correct emotion 6486 03:40:56,524 --> 03:41:00,124 certified I like to get a 6487 03:41:00,127 --> 03:41:01,950 motion to certify we discussed. 6488 03:41:01,950 --> 03:41:02,931 >> so moved. 6489 03:41:02,931 --> 03:41:04,931 >> second. 6490 03:41:06,434 --> 03:41:08,303 >> Chair Jefferson: do I need a 6491 03:41:08,303 --> 03:41:08,569 motion or report out what we 6492 03:41:08,569 --> 03:41:08,636 agreed to 6493 03:41:08,636 --> 03:41:10,538 . 6494 03:41:10,538 --> 03:41:12,538 >> Michele Robl,County 6495 03:41:13,508 --> 03:41:14,643 Attorney: [Unclear audio] 6496 03:41:14,643 --> 03:41:17,430 >> Chair Jefferson: I would 6497 03:41:19,470 --> 03:41:19,313 like to get a motion to 6498 03:41:19,313 --> 03:41:20,481 . 6499 03:41:20,481 --> 03:41:22,918 >> this is just to certify. 6500 03:41:22,918 --> 03:41:24,786 >> Chair Jefferson: this is 6501 03:41:24,786 --> 03:41:26,254 just to certify that is 6502 03:41:26,254 --> 03:41:29,254 unanimous thank you I would 6503 03:41:30,157 --> 03:41:31,292 like to get a motion to name 6504 03:41:31,292 --> 03:41:32,930 supervisor 6505 03:41:32,930 --> 03:41:32,360 yesli vega as chair 6506 03:41:32,360 --> 03:41:32,894 pro tem. 6507 03:41:32,894 --> 03:41:34,228 >> Kenny 6508 03:41:34,228 --> 03:41:34,529 Boddye: I make a motion 6509 03:41:34,529 --> 03:41:36,970 to approve. 6510 03:41:36,970 --> 03:41:38,970 > Chair 6511 03:41:38,132 --> 03:41:40,132 Jefferson: and discussion. 6512 03:41:50,678 --> 03:41:53,780 Let's take a vote. 6513 03:42:00,622 --> 03:42:02,457 Vote unanimous supervisor vega 6514 03:42:02,457 --> 03:42:04,358 or abstaining from the vote. 6515 03:42:04,358 --> 03:42:06,393 >> Chair Jefferson: for the 6516 03:42:06,393 --> 03:42:07,494 next one would likely get a 6517 03:42:07,494 --> 03:42:08,629 motion to replace victor angry 6518 03:42:08,629 --> 03:42:09,960 as a regular member of the 6519 03:42:09,960 --> 03:42:10,264 board 6520 03:42:10,264 --> 03:42:10,564 audit committee or 6521 03:42:10,564 --> 03:42:12,564 and name 6522 03:42:12,567 --> 03:42:14,235 of supervisor george stewart. 6523 03:42:14,235 --> 03:42:14,635 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice 6524 03:42:14,635 --> 03:42:16,371 Chair: I 6525 03:42:16,371 --> 03:42:16,437 make a motion to approve. 6526 03:42:16,437 --> 03:42:18,437 > 6527 03:42:18,606 --> 03:42:20,374 Chair Jefferson: including MR. 6528 03:42:20,374 --> 03:42:22,410 Angry is an alternate. 6529 03:42:22,410 --> 03:42:23,677 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I 6530 03:42:23,677 --> 03:42:24,478 make a motion to approve 6531 03:42:24,478 --> 03:42:26,380 . 6532 03:42:26,380 --> 03:42:26,614 >> Kenny Boddye: I second the 6533 03:42:26,614 --> 03:42:28,415 motion. 6534 03:42:28,415 --> 03:42:30,418 >> Chair Jefferson: I can do 6535 03:42:30,418 --> 03:42:31,519 all of those the rest I will do 6536 03:42:31,519 --> 03:42:35,719 I would like a motion to we 6537 03:42:46,500 --> 03:42:48,536 will do that when over to name 6538 03:42:48,536 --> 03:42:50,371 george stewart as a regular 6539 03:42:50,371 --> 03:42:51,839 member of the board audit 6540 03:42:51,839 --> 03:42:53,374 committee he will replace 6541 03:42:53,374 --> 03:42:54,542 supervisor victor angry will 6542 03:42:54,542 --> 03:42:56,377 not be an alternate on the 6543 03:42:56,377 --> 03:42:57,545 committee I would like to name 6544 03:42:57,545 --> 03:43:00,448 george stewart to join the 6545 03:43:00,448 --> 03:43:01,415 audit committee as an alternate 6546 03:43:01,415 --> 03:43:03,417 would like to name george 6547 03:43:03,417 --> 03:43:05,420 stewart as a regular for the 6548 03:43:05,420 --> 03:43:06,720 potomac and rappahannock 6549 03:43:06,720 --> 03:43:08,322 transportation commission known 6550 03:43:08,322 --> 03:43:09,560 as prtc and to name 6551 03:43:09,560 --> 03:43:10,424 him on the 6552 03:43:10,424 --> 03:43:11,859 climate energy environment 6553 03:43:11,859 --> 03:43:12,160 policy committee and the 6554 03:43:12,160 --> 03:43:13,394 chesapeake 6555 03:43:13,394 --> 03:43:14,595 bay and water 6556 03:43:14,595 --> 03:43:16,430 resources policy committee 6557 03:43:16,430 --> 03:43:18,399 those are two separate 6558 03:43:18,399 --> 03:43:19,500 committees in the metropolitan 6559 03:43:19,500 --> 03:43:19,800 washington council of 6560 03:43:19,800 --> 03:43:21,602 governments. 6561 03:43:21,602 --> 03:43:23,470 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I 6562 03:43:23,470 --> 03:43:23,537 make a motion to approve. 6563 03:43:23,537 --> 03:43:24,638 > 6564 03:43:24,638 --> 03:43:27,441 Kenny Boddye: I second the 6565 03:43:27,441 --> 03:43:28,476 motion he will be an alternate 6566 03:43:28,476 --> 03:43:29,977 chesapeake bay. 6567 03:43:29,977 --> 03:43:31,512 >> Chair Jefferson: it is been 6568 03:43:31,512 --> 03:43:33,481 properly moved and seconded any 6569 03:43:33,481 --> 03:43:34,648 discussion let's vote. 6570 03:43:34,648 --> 03:43:36,451 Vote unanimous supervisor 6571 03:43:36,451 --> 03:43:36,650 stewart abstaining from the 6572 03:43:36,650 --> 03:43:38,485 vote. 6573 03:43:38,485 --> 03:43:40,454 >> Chair Jefferson: just to 6574 03:43:40,454 --> 03:43:41,956 name after we finish with 6575 03:43:41,956 --> 03:43:43,457 everything with the 7 o'clock 6576 03:43:43,457 --> 03:43:44,925 meeting will go back into 6577 03:43:44,925 --> 03:43:46,460 closed session we have two 6578 03:43:46,460 --> 03:43:47,995 additional items to discuss 6579 03:43:47,995 --> 03:43:49,596 with that it is now 7:03 pm we 6580 03:43:49,596 --> 03:43:51,465 are going to start our evening 6581 03:43:51,465 --> 03:43:52,700 session I would like to begin 6582 03:43:52,700 --> 03:43:54,668 with 13 a with 13 ai would like 6583 03:43:54,668 --> 03:43:55,703 to ask the applicant to come up 6584 03:43:55,703 --> 03:43:57,571 and present to us. 6585 03:43:57,571 --> 03:43:59,473 >> MADAM Chair if I could 6586 03:43:59,473 --> 03:44:00,841 afford the applicant comes up 6587 03:44:00,841 --> 03:44:02,543 and speaks I would like to note 6588 03:44:02,543 --> 03:44:03,677 that tonight as we start to 6589 03:44:03,677 --> 03:44:07,877 take a look at this case we 6590 03:44:08,348 --> 03:44:09,583 will notice that there will be 6591 03:44:09,583 --> 03:44:11,351 different from the usual cases. 6592 03:44:11,351 --> 03:44:12,553 We've seen in the past. 6593 03:44:12,553 --> 03:44:17,353 As you MAY be aware of the comp 6594 03:44:18,240 --> 03:44:19,893 plan opened up shortly after 6595 03:44:19,893 --> 03:44:21,828 the passage developers began 6596 03:44:21,828 --> 03:44:23,831 drawing up plans to bring 6597 03:44:23,831 --> 03:44:25,320 presidential communities to the 6598 03:44:25,320 --> 03:44:26,901 area between sudley manor drive 6599 03:44:26,901 --> 03:44:28,902 and rawlins ford road now 6600 03:44:28,902 --> 03:44:30,871 renters of other commitments of 6601 03:44:30,871 --> 03:44:31,972 the smart growth sustainable 6602 03:44:31,972 --> 03:44:34,372 peripheral plan for road 6603 03:44:36,710 --> 03:44:39,110 schools parks please inquire 6604 03:44:39,446 --> 03:44:41,482 the mistakes of overdevelopment 6605 03:44:41,482 --> 03:44:42,950 before road schools and several 6606 03:44:42,950 --> 03:44:44,618 services already are what led 6607 03:44:44,618 --> 03:44:46,453 to the challenges we saw in the 6608 03:44:46,453 --> 03:44:47,954 2000 along lindholm road and a 6609 03:44:47,954 --> 03:44:49,456 severe opposition to further 6610 03:44:49,456 --> 03:44:51,458 develop meant at the time 6611 03:44:51,458 --> 03:44:53,858 unfortunately the bad memories 6612 03:45:01,670 --> 03:45:03,137 of that approach still linger 6613 03:45:03,137 --> 03:45:05,106 for many in our community when 6614 03:45:05,106 --> 03:45:06,974 I saw that seven members were 6615 03:45:06,974 --> 03:45:09,109 being proposed I sat down with 6616 03:45:09,109 --> 03:45:10,430 the developers and asked him to 6617 03:45:10,430 --> 03:45:12,450 take a different approach. 6618 03:45:12,450 --> 03:45:13,880 Noting that the whole would be 6619 03:45:13,880 --> 03:45:15,820 greater than the sum of the 6620 03:45:15,820 --> 03:45:16,883 parts I asked him to come up 6621 03:45:16,883 --> 03:45:18,385 with a unified approach to 6622 03:45:18,385 --> 03:45:20,200 roads parks and schools fire 6623 03:45:20,200 --> 03:45:21,889 and police to community design 6624 03:45:21,889 --> 03:45:23,890 along ben hill rd. And other 6625 03:45:23,890 --> 03:45:25,892 elements. While there are legal 6626 03:45:25,892 --> 03:45:28,892 limitations imposed by the gen. 6627 03:45:28,895 --> 03:45:31,980 Assembly and how far we can go 6628 03:45:31,980 --> 03:45:32,432 resort to work within the 6629 03:45:32,432 --> 03:45:34,101 parameters we have district the 6630 03:45:34,101 --> 03:45:35,902 right balance tonight is the 6631 03:45:35,902 --> 03:45:37,171 first case we will see that 6632 03:45:37,171 --> 03:45:38,972 incorporates a unified plan a 6633 03:45:38,972 --> 03:45:40,107 lot of work over the past 6634 03:45:40,107 --> 03:45:42,760 nearly 2 years has been put 6635 03:45:42,760 --> 03:45:43,877 into identifying the challenges 6636 03:45:43,877 --> 03:45:45,120 engaging with neighboring 6637 03:45:45,120 --> 03:45:46,880 communities and seeking 6638 03:45:46,880 --> 03:45:47,180 solutions to address the 6639 03:45:47,180 --> 03:45:49,490 challenges. 6640 03:45:49,490 --> 03:45:51,840 My hope is that this helps us 6641 03:45:51,840 --> 03:45:52,920 take a smarter more holistic 6642 03:45:52,920 --> 03:45:54,187 approach to development I 6643 03:45:54,187 --> 03:45:56,189 appreciate county staff support 6644 03:45:56,189 --> 03:45:58,589 for this approach particularly 6645 03:45:58,959 --> 03:46:01,610 those within our transportation 6646 03:46:01,610 --> 03:46:02,963 planning departments and I hope 6647 03:46:02,963 --> 03:46:04,965 this will better serve our 6648 03:46:04,965 --> 03:46:05,265 county going forward thank you 6649 03:46:05,265 --> 03:46:07,265 MADAM Chair. 6650 03:46:07,967 --> 03:46:08,235 >> Chair Jefferson: that you so 6651 03:46:08,235 --> 03:46:09,135 very much. 6652 03:46:09,135 --> 03:46:11,135 You MAY approach. 6653 03:46:11,938 --> 03:46:13,941 >> Applicant: good evening and 6654 03:46:13,941 --> 03:46:15,976 CHAIRMAN And members of the 6655 03:46:15,976 --> 03:46:17,210 board I'm sherman patrick with 6656 03:46:17,210 --> 03:46:19,179 competence and doing we are 6657 03:46:19,179 --> 03:46:21,480 here for present brookfield 6658 03:46:21,480 --> 03:46:22,181 homes in the supplication for 6659 03:46:22,181 --> 03:46:24,830 rezoning the property is 6660 03:46:24,830 --> 03:46:26,119 located on the ben hill rd., 6661 03:46:26,119 --> 03:46:27,487 glendora appreciated MR. Gray's 6662 03:46:27,487 --> 03:46:29,156 introduction it will cut down 6663 03:46:29,156 --> 03:46:31,910 on the amount of time I will be 6664 03:46:31,910 --> 03:46:33,590 spending your your this evening 6665 03:46:33,590 --> 03:46:34,160 trying to keep this as brief as 6666 03:46:34,160 --> 03:46:36,950 possible. I have about 15 6667 03:46:36,950 --> 03:46:37,230 slides I will spend more time 6668 03:46:37,230 --> 03:46:38,999 on this first slide probably 6669 03:46:38,999 --> 03:46:41,000 then any of the others. 6670 03:46:41,000 --> 03:46:42,502 The property on this case is 6671 03:46:42,502 --> 03:46:44,204 located on the north side of 6672 03:46:44,204 --> 03:46:47,600 ben hill rd. W. Of great mark 6673 03:46:47,600 --> 03:46:48,508 brad johnson plan community the 6674 03:46:48,508 --> 03:46:50,177 application was submitted in 6675 03:46:50,177 --> 03:46:52,790 2023 FEBRUARY 2023 it was hard 6676 03:46:52,790 --> 03:46:54,130 by the planning commission the 6677 03:46:54,130 --> 03:46:56,150 first time in FEBRUARY 2025 and 6678 03:46:56,150 --> 03:46:58,184 then in MAY 2025. The planning 6679 03:46:58,184 --> 03:47:00,530 commission recommended approval 6680 03:47:00,530 --> 03:47:01,988 after hearing this past MAY 6681 03:47:01,988 --> 03:47:03,122 proffered conditions include 6682 03:47:03,122 --> 03:47:04,991 master zoning plan design 6683 03:47:04,991 --> 03:47:06,991 guidelines for architectural 6684 03:47:07,270 --> 03:47:08,261 and landscaping treatments 6685 03:47:08,261 --> 03:47:10,163 throughout the community a 50 6686 03:47:10,163 --> 03:47:12,310 foot buffer along ben hill rd. 6687 03:47:12,310 --> 03:47:13,199 And many other measures to 6688 03:47:13,199 --> 03:47:15,168 assure a quality of design that 6689 03:47:15,168 --> 03:47:16,200 would be a benchmark along ben 6690 03:47:16,200 --> 03:47:18,200 hill rd. 6691 03:47:18,400 --> 03:47:19,710 And be continued throughout the 6692 03:47:19,710 --> 03:47:20,173 length of ben hill rd. 6693 03:47:20,173 --> 03:47:22,573 As supervisor gordy was 6694 03:47:22,575 --> 03:47:23,777 striving for. 6695 03:47:23,777 --> 03:47:25,812 In addition there is a water 6696 03:47:25,812 --> 03:47:27,747 quality monitoring contribution 6697 03:47:27,747 --> 03:47:29,582 that is proffered $75 per acre 6698 03:47:29,582 --> 03:47:31,584 there is a fire rescue 6699 03:47:31,584 --> 03:47:33,584 contribution of $1200 personal 6700 03:47:33,587 --> 03:47:35,587 family dwelling $1170 personal 6701 03:47:36,255 --> 03:47:37,423 family attached townhouse. 6702 03:47:37,423 --> 03:47:40,423 The schools will receive a 6703 03:47:44,640 --> 03:47:46,799 $5000 per unit for the market 6704 03:47:46,799 --> 03:47:47,967 rate units in the proposed 6705 03:47:47,967 --> 03:47:50,836 development and if the parks 6706 03:47:50,836 --> 03:47:52,380 and recreation department will 6707 03:47:52,380 --> 03:47:53,807 receive 47 for the market rate 6708 03:47:53,807 --> 03:47:55,700 units in the proposed 6709 03:47:55,700 --> 03:47:57,844 development and if the parks 6710 03:47:57,844 --> 03:48:00,244 and recreation department will 6711 03:48:07,520 --> 03:48:08,722 receive $4700 per single-family 6712 03:48:08,722 --> 03:48:10,723 dwelling in $3900 per single 6713 03:48:10,723 --> 03:48:12,725 family attached in addition to 6714 03:48:12,725 --> 03:48:14,627 the dedication of a 10.5 acre 6715 03:48:14,627 --> 03:48:16,563 property that brookfield owns 6716 03:48:16,563 --> 03:48:17,997 that is a long broad run it is 6717 03:48:17,997 --> 03:48:20,397 somewhat separated from the 6718 03:48:20,466 --> 03:48:21,601 site it fills in the missing 6719 03:48:21,601 --> 03:48:22,768 link of the broad run linear 6720 03:48:22,768 --> 03:48:24,670 trail that is along linton hall 6721 03:48:24,670 --> 03:48:26,606 road. There are 310 foot wide 6722 03:48:26,606 --> 03:48:28,575 shared use path's the trails 6723 03:48:28,575 --> 03:48:28,808 paved asphalt trails along ben 6724 03:48:28,808 --> 03:48:30,677 hill rd. 6725 03:48:30,677 --> 03:48:32,579 1 both sides of ben hill rd. I 6726 03:48:32,579 --> 03:48:33,813 will cover that were in the 6727 03:48:33,813 --> 03:48:35,682 transportation section there 6728 03:48:35,682 --> 03:48:36,949 will be one notably also that 6729 03:48:36,949 --> 03:48:38,784 will extended northward from 6730 03:48:38,784 --> 03:48:40,753 ben hill rd. This development 6731 03:48:40,753 --> 03:48:42,789 to connect to the adjoining 6732 03:48:42,789 --> 03:48:44,591 property so it will eventually 6733 03:48:44,591 --> 03:48:45,824 become a connection to the 6734 03:48:45,824 --> 03:48:46,793 direct connection to the broad 6735 03:48:46,793 --> 03:48:48,728 run linear trail. 6736 03:48:48,728 --> 03:48:50,563 That is north of this property. 6737 03:48:50,563 --> 03:48:51,764 There is a $17,000 per unit 6738 03:48:51,764 --> 03:48:53,764 contribution both townhouses 6739 03:48:53,799 --> 03:48:55,701 and single-family detached for 6740 03:48:55,701 --> 03:48:57,670 the improvement of ben hill rd. 6741 03:48:57,670 --> 03:48:59,138 And many of the details about 6742 03:48:59,138 --> 03:49:01,700 the improvement of the road 6743 03:49:01,700 --> 03:49:02,976 that will be covered further on 6744 03:49:02,976 --> 03:49:04,844 in the application for the 6745 03:49:04,844 --> 03:49:07,244 discussion. The property is 55 6746 03:49:11,751 --> 03:49:12,852 acres it is the conference of 6747 03:49:12,852 --> 03:49:14,754 planets calling for 1-4 6748 03:49:14,754 --> 03:49:15,955 dwelling units per acre the 6749 03:49:15,955 --> 03:49:17,957 existing zoning is a applicant 6750 03:49:17,957 --> 03:49:20,357 is proposing three dwelling 6751 03:49:20,960 --> 03:49:22,928 units per acre or total of 168 6752 03:49:22,928 --> 03:49:24,964 it dwelling units there will be 6753 03:49:24,964 --> 03:49:27,364 151 market rate dwelling units 6754 03:49:29,402 --> 03:49:31,337 at different price points and 6755 03:49:31,337 --> 03:49:33,338 they will be affordable 6756 03:49:33,338 --> 03:49:34,573 commitment to affordable 6757 03:49:34,573 --> 03:49:36,442 workforce housing of 17 minutes 6758 03:49:36,442 --> 03:49:38,377 that is 10% of the total 46% 6759 03:49:38,377 --> 03:49:39,912 open space which is generous 6760 03:49:39,912 --> 03:49:43,916 open space area of a project of 6761 03:49:43,916 --> 03:49:45,170 this size. 6762 03:49:45,170 --> 03:49:46,218 Housing chapter of the 6763 03:49:46,218 --> 03:49:48,870 conference of plan knows the 6764 03:49:48,870 --> 03:49:51,687 area in fact the entire nation 6765 03:49:51,891 --> 03:49:53,692 is facing a significant housing 6766 03:49:53,692 --> 03:49:57,292 shortage the net result of that 6767 03:49:58,497 --> 03:50:00,499 is escalating housing prices 6768 03:50:00,499 --> 03:50:02,501 the comprehensive plan does two 6769 03:50:02,501 --> 03:50:04,537 things in that regard it 6770 03:50:04,537 --> 03:50:06,505 encourages a diversity of 6771 03:50:06,505 --> 03:50:07,940 housing at different price 6772 03:50:07,940 --> 03:50:09,942 points which this project 6773 03:50:09,942 --> 03:50:11,910 includes it also encourages the 6774 03:50:11,910 --> 03:50:13,112 provision of affordable housing 6775 03:50:13,112 --> 03:50:15,810 and workforce housing which 6776 03:50:15,810 --> 03:50:17,481 this application also provides 6777 03:50:28,600 --> 03:50:29,194 it will be eight households 6778 03:50:29,194 --> 03:50:31,630 eight homes that will be 6779 03:50:31,630 --> 03:50:32,264 constructed that will be 6780 03:50:32,264 --> 03:50:34,233 affordable to households 6781 03:50:34,233 --> 03:50:36,680 earning 80% of the area median 6782 03:50:36,680 --> 03:50:37,270 income and then home still be 6783 03:50:37,270 --> 03:50:39,204 affordable to households 6784 03:50:39,204 --> 03:50:41,173 earning 120% of the area median 6785 03:50:41,173 --> 03:50:43,175 income balance of the homes 6786 03:50:43,175 --> 03:50:45,770 will be considered market rate 6787 03:50:45,770 --> 03:50:46,278 homes as you can see from this 6788 03:50:46,278 --> 03:50:46,512 exhibit house types are varied 6789 03:50:46,512 --> 03:50:48,512 by with. 6790 03:50:52,384 --> 03:50:54,387 In this case we are 6791 03:50:54,387 --> 03:50:55,487 talking about a 70 foot wide 6792 03:50:55,487 --> 03:50:57,390 lot with that affects the width 6793 03:50:57,390 --> 03:50:58,591 of the house that affects the 6794 03:50:58,591 --> 03:51:00,525 size of the homes some of the 6795 03:51:00,525 --> 03:51:02,628 single family detached will be 6796 03:51:02,628 --> 03:51:04,497 smaller lots houses will follow 6797 03:51:04,497 --> 03:51:05,665 that in comparison to the size 6798 03:51:05,665 --> 03:51:07,632 of them then with respect to 6799 03:51:07,632 --> 03:51:09,568 the single family attached it's 6800 03:51:09,568 --> 03:51:11,604 a little bit easier to see a 6801 03:51:11,604 --> 03:51:14,400 direct relationship between the 6802 03:51:14,674 --> 03:51:16,608 lot size and the unit with but 6803 03:51:16,608 --> 03:51:18,677 there will be 24 foot wide 6804 03:51:18,677 --> 03:51:20,646 single-family attached 20 foot 6805 03:51:20,646 --> 03:51:22,648 and 16 foot wide single-family 6806 03:51:22,648 --> 03:51:24,820 attached. This provides you a 6807 03:51:24,820 --> 03:51:25,751 mixture of five different 6808 03:51:25,751 --> 03:51:27,653 housing styles that gives you a 6809 03:51:27,653 --> 03:51:29,654 diversity of price points that 6810 03:51:29,654 --> 03:51:30,789 is something that is very badly 6811 03:51:30,789 --> 03:51:32,724 needed in the market. 6812 03:51:32,724 --> 03:51:34,660 At the planning commission in 6813 03:51:34,660 --> 03:51:35,828 FEBRUARY we heard from a 6814 03:51:35,828 --> 03:51:37,830 neighbor that owns this 6815 03:51:37,830 --> 03:51:39,331 property here accesses 6 acres, 6816 03:51:39,331 --> 03:51:40,833 it's immediately adjacent to 6817 03:51:40,833 --> 03:51:42,833 the strathmore proposal 6818 03:51:42,868 --> 03:51:43,868 strathmore has a 50 foot buffer 6819 03:51:43,868 --> 03:51:46,268 against that property this 6820 03:51:49,442 --> 03:51:50,943 neighbor was very interested in 6821 03:51:50,943 --> 03:51:52,577 what the impacts might be or 6822 03:51:52,577 --> 03:51:54,513 how that was going to affect 6823 03:51:54,513 --> 03:51:54,846 their enjoyment of their own. 6824 03:51:54,846 --> 03:51:56,482 The property 6825 03:51:56,482 --> 03:51:58,483 is outlined here in 6826 03:51:58,483 --> 03:51:59,651 this aerial photograph, that 6827 03:51:59,651 --> 03:52:00,819 issue has been resolved 6828 03:52:00,819 --> 03:52:02,654 brookfield met with them they 6829 03:52:02,654 --> 03:52:03,855 have the property under 6830 03:52:03,855 --> 03:52:06,158 contract now this property will 6831 03:52:06,158 --> 03:52:08,600 be purchased by brookfield they 6832 03:52:08,600 --> 03:52:11,600 have a good arrangement between 6833 03:52:14,232 --> 03:52:15,700 the two of them for their 6834 03:52:15,700 --> 03:52:17,235 transitioning from the site 6835 03:52:17,235 --> 03:52:18,437 settlement would occur after 6836 03:52:18,437 --> 03:52:20,339 the rezoning. Then there will 6837 03:52:20,339 --> 03:52:23,509 be some time for them to take 6838 03:52:23,509 --> 03:52:25,477 their time to relocate 6839 03:52:25,477 --> 03:52:26,678 eventually brookfield will 6840 03:52:26,678 --> 03:52:28,513 probably come in with the 6841 03:52:28,513 --> 03:52:30,480 rezoning for this piece of 6842 03:52:30,480 --> 03:52:32,451 property it is in nonconforming 6843 03:52:32,451 --> 03:52:33,552 a1 zone lot you can see from 6844 03:52:33,552 --> 03:52:35,520 this photograph there is a 6845 03:52:35,520 --> 03:52:36,721 large water feature upon the 6846 03:52:36,721 --> 03:52:38,657 property you cannot quite make 6847 03:52:38,657 --> 03:52:40,525 it out but there is a stream 6848 03:52:40,525 --> 03:52:42,528 that comes into the property 6849 03:52:42,528 --> 03:52:43,728 through here it is pretty much 6850 03:52:43,728 --> 03:52:45,728 environmentally constrained 6851 03:52:46,531 --> 03:52:47,699 there will be no significant 6852 03:52:47,699 --> 03:52:49,601 increase in the number of 6853 03:52:49,601 --> 03:52:53,201 dwelling units as a result of 6854 03:52:53,538 --> 03:52:55,574 this when it comes in later on. 6855 03:52:55,574 --> 03:52:56,575 Schools is always a very 6856 03:52:56,575 --> 03:52:57,776 important component of the 6857 03:52:57,776 --> 03:52:59,711 analysis you heard supervisor 6858 03:52:59,711 --> 03:53:01,580 gordy mentioned earlier school 6859 03:53:01,580 --> 03:53:03,581 capacity in enrollment is 6860 03:53:03,581 --> 03:53:05,584 something we give careful 6861 03:53:05,584 --> 03:53:06,785 consideration the analysis of 6862 03:53:06,785 --> 03:53:09,185 available school capacity in 6863 03:53:12,825 --> 03:53:13,959 this area focus to some 6864 03:53:13,959 --> 03:53:15,861 challenges that the school 6865 03:53:15,861 --> 03:53:17,280 system is facing. Those 6866 03:53:17,280 --> 03:53:18,963 challenges include instances 6867 03:53:18,963 --> 03:53:21,660 where there are schools that 6868 03:53:21,660 --> 03:53:23,660 are substantially overcrowded 6869 03:53:25,236 --> 03:53:27,172 and the schools that are being 6870 03:53:27,172 --> 03:53:29,140 utilized under capacity. If a 6871 03:53:29,140 --> 03:53:30,208 school is being utilized in the 6872 03:53:30,208 --> 03:53:32,311 capacity and it is not 6873 03:53:32,311 --> 03:53:34,146 operating efficiently sometimes 6874 03:53:34,146 --> 03:53:36,147 they do not have sufficient 6875 03:53:36,147 --> 03:53:37,349 funding to provide the special 6876 03:53:37,349 --> 03:53:39,785 programs that are expected in 6877 03:53:39,785 --> 03:53:41,152 the community. There is a 6878 03:53:41,152 --> 03:53:43,155 negative impact of being under 6879 03:53:43,155 --> 03:53:44,256 enrolled if you will there is a 6880 03:53:44,256 --> 03:53:46,256 declining public school 6881 03:53:50,495 --> 03:53:51,529 enrollment across the county we 6882 03:53:51,529 --> 03:53:53,431 were not able to get a 6883 03:53:53,431 --> 03:53:55,434 memorandum this is an issue 6884 03:53:55,434 --> 03:53:56,969 that is still unfolding for the 6885 03:53:56,969 --> 03:53:58,603 school board there will have to 6886 03:53:58,603 --> 03:54:00,438 be making some difficult 6887 03:54:00,438 --> 03:54:01,706 decisions in the future to 6888 03:54:01,706 --> 03:54:04,106 address these challenges what 6889 03:54:04,442 --> 03:54:06,444 we provided this evening is a 6890 03:54:06,444 --> 03:54:08,480 collection of public statements 6891 03:54:08,480 --> 03:54:10,449 that have been in the media 6892 03:54:10,449 --> 03:54:11,984 about their recommendation this 6893 03:54:11,984 --> 03:54:14,452 is an issue that gets resolved 6894 03:54:14,452 --> 03:54:16,120 at their level possibly through 6895 03:54:16,120 --> 03:54:17,388 school district as through the 6896 03:54:17,388 --> 03:54:19,257 school assignments which I will 6897 03:54:19,257 --> 03:54:21,125 show you an example of in the 6898 03:54:21,125 --> 03:54:22,327 second. The knoxville school 6899 03:54:22,327 --> 03:54:24,229 provides elementary and middle 6900 03:54:24,229 --> 03:54:26,131 school education for this site 6901 03:54:26,131 --> 03:54:27,666 at the present time when the 6902 03:54:27,666 --> 03:54:29,134 district boundaries are drawn. 6903 03:54:29,134 --> 03:54:29,468 The knoxville school is 6904 03:54:29,468 --> 03:54:31,302 overcapacity. 6905 03:54:31,302 --> 03:54:33,138 The brentsville district 6906 03:54:33,138 --> 03:54:35,140 article is under capacity it 6907 03:54:35,140 --> 03:54:36,641 has available capacity to serve 6908 03:54:36,641 --> 03:54:36,875 the needs of this particular 6909 03:54:36,875 --> 03:54:38,875 project. 6910 03:54:41,112 --> 03:54:43,112 We mentioned let's 6911 03:54:50,388 --> 03:54:54,588 see, I think I skipped a slide. 6912 03:55:02,400 --> 03:55:04,400 I did. 6913 03:55:04,435 --> 03:55:06,437 This is showing the declining 6914 03:55:06,437 --> 03:55:08,437 enrollment challenges the 6915 03:55:08,440 --> 03:55:09,607 school board is facing there is 6916 03:55:09,607 --> 03:55:11,409 been a's persistent reduction 6917 03:55:11,409 --> 03:55:12,577 over the past seven years of 6918 03:55:12,577 --> 03:55:14,512 3000 students fewer than are 6919 03:55:14,512 --> 03:55:16,447 enrolled in county schools in 6920 03:55:16,447 --> 03:55:18,449 the next four years there is 6921 03:55:18,449 --> 03:55:19,984 expectation that another 43,000 6922 03:55:19,984 --> 03:55:20,618 students would be in the system 6923 03:55:20,618 --> 03:55:22,618 if you will. 6924 03:55:28,893 --> 03:55:31,293 [Unclear audio] The boundaries 6925 03:55:31,630 --> 03:55:34,630 of the seven applications that 6926 03:55:34,765 --> 03:55:36,667 supervisor gordy mentioned that 6927 03:55:36,667 --> 03:55:38,703 were requested to do a 6928 03:55:38,703 --> 03:55:41,103 collaborative effort to analyze 6929 03:55:42,600 --> 03:55:43,575 the theme public infrastructure 6930 03:55:43,575 --> 03:55:45,576 impacts that would come from 6931 03:55:45,576 --> 03:55:48,576 the collective results of these 6932 03:55:50,881 --> 03:55:52,830 different developments. 6933 03:55:52,830 --> 03:55:53,918 There was a lot of focus on 6934 03:55:53,918 --> 03:55:55,887 schools and transportation 6935 03:55:55,887 --> 03:55:56,888 there was some significant 6936 03:55:56,888 --> 03:55:58,756 challenges there. 6937 03:55:58,756 --> 03:55:58,957 The conclusions of this 6938 03:55:58,957 --> 03:56:00,957 , worked 6939 03:56:09,634 --> 03:56:10,701 up the $5000 per unit monetary 6940 03:56:10,701 --> 03:56:11,836 contribution would be 6941 03:56:11,836 --> 03:56:13,704 consistent with the impacts 6942 03:56:13,704 --> 03:56:15,640 that were being created and 6943 03:56:15,640 --> 03:56:16,841 consistent with the state code 6944 03:56:16,841 --> 03:56:18,676 parameters for providing 6945 03:56:18,676 --> 03:56:20,676 monetary providing for 6946 03:56:20,678 --> 03:56:22,680 offsetting impacts of public 6947 03:56:22,680 --> 03:56:23,915 infrastructure. Also the other 6948 03:56:23,915 --> 03:56:24,882 would rezoning is dedicating a 6949 03:56:24,882 --> 03:56:26,882 middle school site. 6950 03:56:26,884 --> 03:56:28,719 On this map you see then hill 6951 03:56:28,719 --> 03:56:30,722 road coming through the 6952 03:56:30,722 --> 03:56:32,890 property this alignment here is 6953 03:56:32,890 --> 03:56:32,957 sutley manor road the 6954 03:56:32,957 --> 03:56:35,957 development did you see over 6955 03:56:36,193 --> 03:56:38,193 here is. 6956 03:56:38,229 --> 03:56:40,130 [Listing names] There is quite 6957 03:56:40,130 --> 03:56:42,133 a bit of residential 6958 03:56:42,133 --> 03:56:43,133 development in this area 6959 03:56:43,133 --> 03:56:44,335 suburban residential type 6960 03:56:44,335 --> 03:56:46,237 development on the north side 6961 03:56:46,237 --> 03:56:48,105 of ben hill wrote today about 6962 03:56:48,105 --> 03:56:50,107 this out of the view is 6963 03:56:50,107 --> 03:56:52,109 kingsburg development that is 6964 03:56:52,109 --> 03:56:53,344 asked by by linville road it is 6965 03:56:53,344 --> 03:56:55,145 coming in the direction of 6966 03:56:55,145 --> 03:56:56,613 linda hall road corridor. 6967 03:56:56,613 --> 03:56:57,915 Trathmore is outlined right 6968 03:56:57,915 --> 03:57:00,915 here we recommend the shape 6969 03:57:03,288 --> 03:57:05,222 here there's a gold color to 6970 03:57:05,222 --> 03:57:07,224 try to help it stand out these 6971 03:57:07,224 --> 03:57:08,526 other applications have been 6972 03:57:08,526 --> 03:57:10,461 filed most of these have been 6973 03:57:10,461 --> 03:57:11,929 filed by other applicants 6974 03:57:11,929 --> 03:57:13,398 brookfield has recently filed 6975 03:57:13,398 --> 03:57:16,667 the silver bell case that is 6976 03:57:16,667 --> 03:57:18,169 been into the county for a 6977 03:57:18,169 --> 03:57:20,137 little over six weeks we are 6978 03:57:20,137 --> 03:57:22,573 awaiting comments on the first 6979 03:57:22,573 --> 03:57:24,573 review. 6980 03:57:26,176 --> 03:57:27,111 The applicant in the master 6981 03:57:27,111 --> 03:57:30,711 develop and study came up with 6982 03:57:35,753 --> 03:57:37,754 a commonsense type of approach 6983 03:57:37,754 --> 03:57:38,756 that could be used for selling 6984 03:57:38,756 --> 03:57:39,924 students from these 6985 03:57:39,924 --> 03:57:40,958 developments to existing 6986 03:57:40,958 --> 03:57:42,927 schools in the area. 6987 03:57:42,927 --> 03:57:45,927 It would relieve the capacity 6988 03:57:45,962 --> 03:57:47,197 problems at knoxville school. 6989 03:57:47,197 --> 03:57:49,990 This is not this chart showing 6990 03:57:49,990 --> 03:57:51,100 how students would flow from 6991 03:57:51,100 --> 03:57:53,401 elementary school to middle 6992 03:57:53,771 --> 03:57:55,739 school twice school is not 6993 03:57:55,739 --> 03:57:56,741 requiring the redistricting of 6994 03:57:56,741 --> 03:57:58,410 any students that are currently 6995 03:57:58,410 --> 03:57:59,744 attending school. 6996 03:57:59,744 --> 03:58:00,944 These are from vacant parcels 6997 03:58:00,944 --> 03:58:02,779 that are part of this rezoning 6998 03:58:02,779 --> 03:58:03,914 or these seven rezoning 6999 03:58:03,914 --> 03:58:04,448 applications that we talk 7000 03:58:04,448 --> 03:58:05,683 about. 7001 03:58:05,683 --> 03:58:08,510 Actually I'm sorry there were 7002 03:58:08,510 --> 03:58:10,451 an additional six proposals 7003 03:58:10,687 --> 03:58:11,955 that were added to the analysis 7004 03:58:11,955 --> 03:58:14,625 there were six zoning cases 7005 03:58:14,625 --> 03:58:16,493 that had been approved or were 7006 03:58:16,493 --> 03:58:18,629 very near approval going 7007 03:58:18,629 --> 03:58:20,264 through the system those were 7008 03:58:20,264 --> 03:58:22,999 added. When it comes to schools 7009 03:58:22,999 --> 03:58:25,999 analysis we are not analyzing 7010 03:58:26,303 --> 03:58:29,303 just the seven applicants that 7011 03:58:31,975 --> 03:58:33,210 we've given the title 7012 03:58:33,210 --> 03:58:35,112 application where including six 7013 03:58:35,112 --> 03:58:36,980 other applications there in the 7014 03:58:36,980 --> 03:58:40,580 vicinity and also served by the 7015 03:58:41,118 --> 03:58:42,653 same schools I have several 7016 03:58:42,653 --> 03:58:44,221 slides to give you a sense of 7017 03:58:44,221 --> 03:58:45,389 what the enrollments are at the 7018 03:58:45,389 --> 03:58:48,389 present time and what they 7019 03:58:50,600 --> 03:58:51,128 would be as a result of this 7020 03:58:51,128 --> 03:58:53,630 development this late 7021 03:58:53,630 --> 03:58:56,630 projection up to 2037 you see 7022 03:58:59,169 --> 03:59:02,169 here that for the elementary 7023 03:59:03,674 --> 03:59:06,674 school level the glenn kirk 7024 03:59:07,111 --> 03:59:09,450 elementary school after the 7025 03:59:09,450 --> 03:59:11,381 projected students that are 7026 03:59:11,381 --> 03:59:14,381 based on without the approval 7027 03:59:18,540 --> 03:59:19,990 of the seven cases, then read 7028 03:59:19,990 --> 03:59:21,892 these cases into the mix there 7029 03:59:21,892 --> 03:59:24,695 are still hundred 59 and the 7030 03:59:24,695 --> 03:59:26,630 seats capacity beyond what is 7031 03:59:26,630 --> 03:59:27,697 being required for the 7032 03:59:27,697 --> 03:59:29,599 developments. Cedar point 7033 03:59:29,599 --> 03:59:30,534 elementary school you have a 7034 03:59:30,534 --> 03:59:32,436 similar margin it's still 51 7035 03:59:32,436 --> 03:59:34,338 empty seat after all of these 7036 03:59:34,338 --> 03:59:36,338 rezoning's are addressed. 7037 03:59:37,174 --> 03:59:39,574 Through the assignment process 7038 03:59:41,411 --> 03:59:42,546 that is been proposed for rt 7039 03:59:42,546 --> 03:59:44,481 clay would after all of the 7040 03:59:44,481 --> 03:59:46,317 students are added would have 7041 03:59:46,317 --> 03:59:48,717 124 empty seats what is 7042 03:59:49,180 --> 03:59:52,180 striking about these charts is 7043 03:59:55,892 --> 03:59:56,993 uc that these schools and the 7044 03:59:56,993 --> 03:59:59,393 school are 50% or below 7045 04:00:00,263 --> 04:00:01,431 capacity without some type of 7046 04:00:01,431 --> 04:00:04,431 growth being added to those. 7047 04:00:04,901 --> 04:00:06,203 Which is problematic. 7048 04:00:06,203 --> 04:00:10,403 This is the same type of format 7049 04:00:13,109 --> 04:00:14,344 we have the force dollar middle 7050 04:00:14,344 --> 04:00:16,146 school even after the addition 7051 04:00:16,146 --> 04:00:18,549 of the 13 cases you have 7052 04:00:18,549 --> 04:00:20,350 hundred and 10 empty seats that 7053 04:00:20,350 --> 04:00:22,750 is including the 210 seat 7054 04:00:26,590 --> 04:00:28,458 expansion that is in the 2028 7055 04:00:28,458 --> 04:00:29,659 cip. It will be funded with a 7056 04:00:29,659 --> 04:00:31,428 $5000 per unit contribution 7057 04:00:31,428 --> 04:00:32,629 would come from this 7058 04:00:32,629 --> 04:00:34,431 application and the other vint 7059 04:00:34,431 --> 04:00:36,199 hill applicants. Over 7060 04:00:36,199 --> 04:00:38,101 gainesville middle school same 7061 04:00:38,101 --> 04:00:39,636 thing only there would be 398 7062 04:00:39,636 --> 04:00:41,204 empty seats after the addition 7063 04:00:41,204 --> 04:00:43,406 of all three of these all 13 of 7064 04:00:43,406 --> 04:00:45,109 these proposals. 7065 04:00:45,109 --> 04:00:48,709 Then high school again sort of 7066 04:00:50,460 --> 04:00:51,914 the same situation patriot high 7067 04:00:51,914 --> 04:00:54,170 school would have 534 empty 7068 04:00:54,170 --> 04:00:56,170 seats afterwards gainesville 7069 04:00:56,987 --> 04:00:58,988 high school but have 81 seats. 7070 04:00:58,988 --> 04:01:03,188 What we tried to propose is a 7071 04:01:05,361 --> 04:01:07,164 commonsense way of distributing 7072 04:01:07,164 --> 04:01:09,980 the students that will be 7073 04:01:09,980 --> 04:01:10,333 generated by this new growth as 7074 04:01:10,333 --> 04:01:13,933 opposed to saying that you have 7075 04:01:18,942 --> 04:01:20,443 to redistrict existing 7076 04:01:20,443 --> 04:01:22,780 communities which is always a 7077 04:01:22,780 --> 04:01:24,460 very sensitive point. There MAY 7078 04:01:24,460 --> 04:01:26,150 be some other efficiencies that 7079 04:01:26,150 --> 04:01:27,183 the school board games and they 7080 04:01:27,183 --> 04:01:29,520 decide to buy redistricting 7081 04:01:29,520 --> 04:01:30,920 that is a decision that would 7082 04:01:30,920 --> 04:01:32,121 be up to them we think there is 7083 04:01:32,121 --> 04:01:33,220 an opportunity here to address 7084 04:01:33,220 --> 04:01:34,991 the need. 7085 04:01:34,991 --> 04:01:36,993 With respect to the vint hill 7086 04:01:36,993 --> 04:01:38,461 road widening and making it 7087 04:01:38,461 --> 04:01:40,300 consistent there is a design 7088 04:01:40,300 --> 04:01:44,230 that is been agreed upon by the 7089 04:01:44,467 --> 04:01:46,403 vint hill road developers they 7090 04:01:46,403 --> 04:01:48,404 have agreed to this 120 foot 7091 04:01:48,404 --> 04:01:49,606 right-of-way section to see 7092 04:01:49,606 --> 04:01:51,541 right here there will be two 7093 04:01:51,541 --> 04:01:53,376 lanes in each direction 16 foot 7094 04:01:53,376 --> 04:01:54,611 median and a 10 foot wide 7095 04:01:54,611 --> 04:01:56,413 shared use path on both sides 7096 04:01:56,413 --> 04:01:58,415 of the road which is not 7097 04:01:58,415 --> 04:01:59,615 required in the normal county 7098 04:01:59,615 --> 04:02:01,651 standards or aetna v.Standards 7099 04:02:01,651 --> 04:02:03,553 in addition to that there is a 7100 04:02:03,553 --> 04:02:05,455 utility easement and a 50 foot 7101 04:02:05,455 --> 04:02:07,456 landscape buffer along both 7102 04:02:07,456 --> 04:02:08,658 sides of the road which is also 7103 04:02:08,658 --> 04:02:10,727 not required under the existing 7104 04:02:10,727 --> 04:02:12,727 standards requirement. 7105 04:02:12,762 --> 04:02:15,762 This exhibit is showing for 7106 04:02:19,835 --> 04:02:21,871 same project that all of the 7107 04:02:21,871 --> 04:02:23,840 projects that are part of the 7108 04:02:23,840 --> 04:02:24,975 proposal these are the traffic 7109 04:02:24,975 --> 04:02:26,975 generating vint hill 7110 04:02:27,544 --> 04:02:28,645 applications the strathmore 7111 04:02:28,645 --> 04:02:31,645 piece is right here again. 7112 04:02:36,218 --> 04:02:38,540 With respect to strathmore 7113 04:02:38,540 --> 04:02:39,221 there is no negative impact on 7114 04:02:39,221 --> 04:02:41,123 the level of service or 7115 04:02:41,123 --> 04:02:43,250 capacity on the vint hill road. 7116 04:02:43,250 --> 04:02:45,280 It is only through the 7117 04:02:45,280 --> 04:02:46,996 participation and collaborative 7118 04:02:46,996 --> 04:02:49,310 effort that strathmore is 7119 04:02:49,310 --> 04:02:51,000 obligated to provide additional 7120 04:02:51,000 --> 04:02:52,268 improvements and monetary 7121 04:02:52,268 --> 04:02:55,400 contributions to make sure that 7122 04:02:55,400 --> 04:02:56,239 vint hill road has a uniform 7123 04:02:56,239 --> 04:02:57,407 cross-section and is built in a 7124 04:02:57,407 --> 04:02:59,976 way that is addressing the 7125 04:02:59,976 --> 04:03:01,144 needs of growth. 7126 04:03:01,144 --> 04:03:04,144 The proffers that are being 7127 04:03:04,313 --> 04:03:06,713 proposed provide for the 7128 04:03:12,422 --> 04:03:14,490 oversight of a development 7129 04:03:14,490 --> 04:03:16,425 agreement coordinated effort by 7130 04:03:16,425 --> 04:03:18,428 the prince william county 7131 04:03:18,428 --> 04:03:20,428 department of transportation 7132 04:03:20,429 --> 04:03:22,431 there is a commitment to join 7133 04:03:22,431 --> 04:03:23,633 develop meant agreement by the 7134 04:03:23,633 --> 04:03:25,434 applicant's will be dedication 7135 04:03:25,434 --> 04:03:26,969 of right away and monetary 7136 04:03:26,969 --> 04:03:28,738 contributions to the county or 7137 04:03:28,738 --> 04:03:29,939 to the joint development fund 7138 04:03:29,939 --> 04:03:31,707 and phasing that assures that 7139 04:03:31,707 --> 04:03:32,875 the impacts of home 7140 04:03:32,875 --> 04:03:34,143 construction to not get ahead 7141 04:03:34,143 --> 04:03:36,111 of the road construction and 7142 04:03:36,111 --> 04:03:37,279 road level of service. I think 7143 04:03:37,279 --> 04:03:38,747 that was a very important 7144 04:03:38,747 --> 04:03:41,147 feature that supervisor gordy 7145 04:03:51,260 --> 04:03:53,295 wanted to attain from this. 7146 04:03:53,295 --> 04:03:55,331 There also provisions for 7147 04:03:55,331 --> 04:03:56,765 interim improvements is 7148 04:03:56,765 --> 04:03:58,334 necessary to maintain the 7149 04:03:58,334 --> 04:03:59,468 levels of service if the 7150 04:03:59,468 --> 04:04:01,337 opportunity arises for the 7151 04:04:01,337 --> 04:04:02,605 county to be able to leverage 7152 04:04:02,605 --> 04:04:04,474 the additional improvements in 7153 04:04:04,474 --> 04:04:06,342 the corridor through taking 7154 04:04:06,342 --> 04:04:08,344 direct supervision of the 7155 04:04:08,344 --> 04:04:10,346 deconstruction of these road 7156 04:04:10,346 --> 04:04:11,547 improvements the county has the 7157 04:04:11,547 --> 04:04:13,416 flexibility to do that if we 7158 04:04:13,416 --> 04:04:14,450 take all the funding being 7159 04:04:14,450 --> 04:04:16,352 provided by the joint 7160 04:04:16,352 --> 04:04:17,586 development agreement fund and 7161 04:04:17,586 --> 04:04:19,555 use that for road construction. 7162 04:04:19,555 --> 04:04:21,557 This is a flowchart prepared by 7163 04:04:21,557 --> 04:04:23,526 the transportation department 7164 04:04:23,526 --> 04:04:24,627 to keep track of the different 7165 04:04:24,627 --> 04:04:26,529 pieces would go. 7166 04:04:26,529 --> 04:04:28,364 I'm going to try to summarize 7167 04:04:28,364 --> 04:04:29,499 that very briefly the first 7168 04:04:29,499 --> 04:04:31,400 column here is the first 7169 04:04:31,400 --> 04:04:32,902 scenario is actually just if 7170 04:04:32,902 --> 04:04:34,236 one reason we submitted that 7171 04:04:34,236 --> 04:04:36,172 lays out how they funding would 7172 04:04:36,172 --> 04:04:38,740 be collected then the applicant 7173 04:04:38,740 --> 04:04:39,508 would complete clearing and 7174 04:04:39,508 --> 04:04:41,908 grading across their property 7175 04:04:42,770 --> 04:04:43,346 and provide improvements 7176 04:04:43,346 --> 04:04:45,214 necessary to maintain the 7177 04:04:45,214 --> 04:04:46,248 levels of service. They also 7178 04:04:46,248 --> 04:04:48,217 dedicate the right way. 7179 04:04:48,217 --> 04:04:50,486 The second scenario is if all 7180 04:04:50,486 --> 04:04:52,421 of these seven or 11 zoning I'm 7181 04:04:52,421 --> 04:04:53,689 getting the numbers mixed up 7182 04:04:53,689 --> 04:04:57,289 all seven cases that were part 7183 04:04:58,961 --> 04:05:00,196 of the transportation agreement 7184 04:05:00,196 --> 04:05:02,130 are approved in that instance 7185 04:05:02,130 --> 04:05:05,130 you have really two columns 7186 04:05:05,801 --> 04:05:07,369 this is just decision points 7187 04:05:07,369 --> 04:05:08,904 made along the way but you have 7188 04:05:08,904 --> 04:05:10,873 two columns because the first 7189 04:05:10,873 --> 04:05:12,108 column is indicating the 7190 04:05:12,108 --> 04:05:14,508 developers are completing the 7191 04:05:23,852 --> 04:05:25,854 road through their joint 7192 04:05:25,854 --> 04:05:27,356 element agreement through their 7193 04:05:27,356 --> 04:05:29,756 private clinician overseen by 7194 04:05:29,858 --> 04:05:31,894 the prince william county 7195 04:05:31,894 --> 04:05:33,280 transportation department the 7196 04:05:33,280 --> 04:05:35,300 other column is in the event 7197 04:05:35,300 --> 04:05:36,866 the prince william county 7198 04:05:36,866 --> 04:05:38,330 trepidation department decides 7199 04:05:38,330 --> 04:05:39,901 it would like to take the 7200 04:05:39,901 --> 04:05:40,635 project and provided direct 7201 04:05:40,635 --> 04:05:42,710 supervision. 7202 04:05:42,710 --> 04:05:43,906 That would presumably happen if 7203 04:05:43,906 --> 04:05:45,740 there is a wait to get 7204 04:05:45,740 --> 04:05:46,942 regularly sharing funds or 7205 04:05:46,942 --> 04:05:48,176 additional funding that would 7206 04:05:48,176 --> 04:05:50,450 allow them to leverage things 7207 04:05:50,450 --> 04:05:51,447 and get bit better and more 7208 04:05:51,447 --> 04:05:53,480 improvement in that quarter. 7209 04:05:53,480 --> 04:05:54,916 Then the final scenario here is 7210 04:05:54,916 --> 04:05:56,919 for in the event over several 7211 04:05:56,919 --> 04:05:58,921 of the seven applications that 7212 04:05:58,921 --> 04:06:01,356 are part of the transportation 7213 04:06:01,356 --> 04:06:02,558 agreement would be approved 7214 04:06:02,558 --> 04:06:04,460 operationally is the same as 7215 04:06:04,460 --> 04:06:06,429 this over here there still 7216 04:06:06,429 --> 04:06:07,629 decision where the county can 7217 04:06:07,629 --> 04:06:09,497 take it over if the county does 7218 04:06:09,497 --> 04:06:11,366 not take over there is a joint 7219 04:06:11,366 --> 04:06:12,901 develop meant agreement and 7220 04:06:12,901 --> 04:06:14,503 improvements will be provided 7221 04:06:14,503 --> 04:06:15,904 in a phased fashion and in a 7222 04:06:15,904 --> 04:06:18,440 way that will maintain levels 7223 04:06:18,440 --> 04:06:19,441 of service throughout the 7224 04:06:19,441 --> 04:06:20,609 length of the concept area for 7225 04:06:20,609 --> 04:06:21,443 the improvements to vint hill 7226 04:06:21,443 --> 04:06:22,677 road. 7227 04:06:22,677 --> 04:06:25,770 This concludes the presentation 7228 04:06:25,447 --> 04:06:27,449 the applicant is addressing the 7229 04:06:27,449 --> 04:06:28,650 prince william county needs as 7230 04:06:28,650 --> 04:06:29,985 well as the master development 7231 04:06:29,985 --> 04:06:31,854 plan is looking at the prince 7232 04:06:31,854 --> 04:06:33,855 william county needs for 7233 04:06:33,855 --> 04:06:35,900 schools particularly 7234 04:06:35,900 --> 04:06:36,992 transportation it is compatible 7235 04:06:36,992 --> 04:06:38,861 with the densities that are in 7236 04:06:38,861 --> 04:06:40,161 the area of the development 7237 04:06:40,161 --> 04:06:40,329 area of the project obviously 7238 04:06:40,329 --> 04:06:41,497 . 7239 04:06:41,497 --> 04:06:43,432 [Listing names] Which is a 7240 04:06:43,432 --> 04:06:45,301 large plant community school 7241 04:06:45,301 --> 04:06:47,701 assignments are suggested that 7242 04:06:48,470 --> 04:06:50,506 could avoid the issue that, 7243 04:06:50,506 --> 04:06:52,574 from redistricting but that is 7244 04:06:52,574 --> 04:06:54,409 truly a schoolboard discussion 7245 04:06:54,409 --> 04:06:55,610 that needs to be made at a 7246 04:06:55,610 --> 04:06:57,646 later date. But the vint hill 7247 04:06:57,646 --> 04:06:59,581 road four-lane improvements on 7248 04:06:59,581 --> 04:07:01,449 the part of this application 7249 04:07:01,449 --> 04:07:02,584 and the agreement between the 7250 04:07:02,584 --> 04:07:04,584 collaborative effort that 7251 04:07:05,420 --> 04:07:07,322 really stands out from all the 7252 04:07:07,322 --> 04:07:09,224 earth is only cases that I've 7253 04:07:09,224 --> 04:07:10,525 witnessed the time I've been 7254 04:07:10,525 --> 04:07:12,427 around here in doing this. This 7255 04:07:12,427 --> 04:07:14,329 is really pretty exceptional 7256 04:07:14,329 --> 04:07:16,298 type of project that has been 7257 04:07:16,298 --> 04:07:18,299 undertaken I think everyone 7258 04:07:18,299 --> 04:07:19,434 involved transportation 7259 04:07:19,434 --> 04:07:21,369 department as well as the 7260 04:07:21,369 --> 04:07:22,504 different applicants are to be 7261 04:07:22,504 --> 04:07:24,540 commended for this effort. 7262 04:07:24,540 --> 04:07:26,408 If you have any questions I'd 7263 04:07:26,408 --> 04:07:28,376 be happy to answer them. 7264 04:07:28,376 --> 04:07:29,477 >> Chair Jefferson: I don't see 7265 04:07:29,477 --> 04:07:31,379 anything in the queue. 7266 04:07:31,379 --> 04:07:35,579 Thank you so very much we will 7267 04:07:41,923 --> 04:07:45,523 now go on to the county. 7268 04:07:49,464 --> 04:07:51,299 >> Scott Meyer: planning 7269 04:07:51,299 --> 04:07:53,301 office. As sherman pointed out 7270 04:07:53,301 --> 04:07:56,901 that this project has been a 7271 04:07:58,507 --> 04:07:59,741 collaborative effort for the 7272 04:07:59,741 --> 04:08:01,676 vint hill corridor this is been 7273 04:08:01,676 --> 04:08:03,645 in process for just about 2.5 7274 04:08:03,645 --> 04:08:05,680 years to clarify it is counter 7275 04:08:05,680 --> 04:08:07,680 numerous different iterations 7276 04:08:08,483 --> 04:08:10,518 of different layout changes it 7277 04:08:10,518 --> 04:08:12,487 initially went to the planning 7278 04:08:12,487 --> 04:08:14,489 commission in FEBRUARY then it 7279 04:08:14,489 --> 04:08:15,690 went to the planning commission 7280 04:08:15,690 --> 04:08:17,725 for final action in MAY then it 7281 04:08:17,725 --> 04:08:19,694 went to the planning commission 7282 04:08:19,694 --> 04:08:21,496 for final action in MAY 2025, 7283 04:08:21,496 --> 04:08:23,498 there has been a lot of 7284 04:08:23,498 --> 04:08:24,932 coordination with the various 7285 04:08:24,932 --> 04:08:26,601 applicants parties in this 7286 04:08:26,601 --> 04:08:30,710 corridor just to kind of point 7287 04:08:30,710 --> 04:08:32,710 that out. 7288 04:08:32,106 --> 04:08:33,308 you've been oriented with the 7289 04:08:33,308 --> 04:08:35,176 site busier this is strathmore 7290 04:08:35,176 --> 04:08:38,179 this is the first project in 7291 04:08:38,179 --> 04:08:40,214 the seven the 720 quarter 7292 04:08:40,214 --> 04:08:41,449 projects to which sherman was 7293 04:08:41,449 --> 04:08:42,584 mentioning just to clarify this 7294 04:08:42,584 --> 04:08:46,184 is the first project in the 7295 04:08:50,691 --> 04:08:52,226 density is 3.03 dwelling units 7296 04:08:52,226 --> 04:08:53,828 per acre proposed bridge which 7297 04:08:53,828 --> 04:08:58,280 we feel is very much in line 7298 04:08:58,666 --> 04:09:00,669 with the 1-4 in the residential 7299 04:09:00,669 --> 04:09:02,670 expected densities. Staff is 7300 04:09:02,670 --> 04:09:04,670 recommended approval is 55 7301 04:09:12,180 --> 04:09:13,314 acres we will have a total of 7302 04:09:13,314 --> 04:09:15,216 168 residential units 7303 04:09:15,216 --> 04:09:17,216 consisting of single-family 7304 04:09:17,218 --> 04:09:18,753 detached and single-family 7305 04:09:18,753 --> 04:09:21,222 attached all of the affordable 7306 04:09:21,222 --> 04:09:22,357 units are the single-family 7307 04:09:22,357 --> 04:09:24,325 attached there is various 7308 04:09:24,325 --> 04:09:25,426 widths and so forth that 7309 04:09:25,426 --> 04:09:27,328 sherman mentioned just wanted 7310 04:09:27,328 --> 04:09:28,462 to get your orientation on that 7311 04:09:28,462 --> 04:09:30,331 matter this is on the north 7312 04:09:30,331 --> 04:09:32,300 side of vint hill road. Just to 7313 04:09:32,300 --> 04:09:34,369 clarify that this is and what 7314 04:09:34,369 --> 04:09:36,204 is the development area braemar 7315 04:09:36,204 --> 04:09:38,205 is to the east you will see 7316 04:09:38,205 --> 04:09:39,841 right here we are looking for 7317 04:09:39,841 --> 04:09:41,776 compatibility that is not to 7318 04:09:41,776 --> 04:09:45,976 ignore the fact that there is a 7319 04:09:46,247 --> 04:09:48,820 massive infrastructure outlay 7320 04:09:48,820 --> 04:09:49,317 for this whole area. This is 7321 04:09:49,317 --> 04:09:51,219 drastically going to change the 7322 04:09:51,219 --> 04:09:53,187 whole corridor of this area we 7323 04:09:53,187 --> 04:09:54,288 have been in coordination with 7324 04:09:54,288 --> 04:09:56,123 the applicant and know 7325 04:09:56,123 --> 04:09:57,910 supervisor gordy office has 7326 04:09:57,910 --> 04:09:59,600 been doing a lot of endeavors 7327 04:09:59,600 --> 04:10:00,195 with that. This is where we are 7328 04:10:00,195 --> 04:10:03,195 right now is currently zoned 7329 04:10:11,739 --> 04:10:12,874 a-1 just to give you an idea. 7330 04:10:12,874 --> 04:10:14,742 This is showing all project 7331 04:10:14,742 --> 04:10:16,177 right here I just marked with 7332 04:10:16,177 --> 04:10:17,878 red start the strathmore 7333 04:10:17,878 --> 04:10:19,814 product again just the first 7334 04:10:19,814 --> 04:10:21,490 one that is before the board 7335 04:10:21,490 --> 04:10:23,317 this is showing material this 7336 04:10:23,317 --> 04:10:25,319 in the context of the project 7337 04:10:25,319 --> 04:10:27,321 the frontage improvements are 7338 04:10:27,321 --> 04:10:30,921 being made there is a proposed 7339 04:10:31,626 --> 04:10:33,560 realignment of pioneer drive 7340 04:10:33,560 --> 04:10:35,429 there is a roundabout that is 7341 04:10:35,429 --> 04:10:35,630 ultimately proposed in this 7342 04:10:35,630 --> 04:10:37,498 area. 7343 04:10:37,498 --> 04:10:39,434 We are focusing here on the 7344 04:10:39,434 --> 04:10:40,401 strathmore site itself. 7345 04:10:40,401 --> 04:10:43,401 This is from the design 7346 04:10:47,700 --> 04:10:49,110 guidelines as sherman mentioned 7347 04:10:49,110 --> 04:10:51,120 there numerous connections to 7348 04:10:51,120 --> 04:10:52,914 the external part of the site 7349 04:10:52,914 --> 04:10:54,382 is just trying to give you an 7350 04:10:54,382 --> 04:10:55,883 orientation of any perspective 7351 04:10:55,883 --> 04:10:57,418 of how it will link to the 7352 04:10:57,418 --> 04:10:59,319 other projects greenhaven to 7353 04:10:59,319 --> 04:11:01,221 the east the village of broad 7354 04:11:01,221 --> 04:11:02,756 run to the west although what 7355 04:11:02,756 --> 04:11:04,258 is on the south side of vint 7356 04:11:04,258 --> 04:11:06,927 hill road and as sherman 7357 04:11:06,927 --> 04:11:08,620 mentioned the stewart project 7358 04:11:08,620 --> 04:11:10,640 property bargaining is now 7359 04:11:10,640 --> 04:11:11,198 under contract it was cold 7360 04:11:11,198 --> 04:11:13,768 outside before we are looking 7361 04:11:13,768 --> 04:11:16,168 at 50 foot contiguous buffer 7362 04:11:16,704 --> 04:11:18,600 along the frontage that was 7363 04:11:18,600 --> 04:11:20,406 another very important aspect 7364 04:11:24,578 --> 04:11:26,480 of this along with different 7365 04:11:26,480 --> 04:11:28,416 easements and so forth. This is 7366 04:11:28,416 --> 04:11:30,417 showing the layout again not to 7367 04:11:30,417 --> 04:11:31,885 go into a lot of detail, the 7368 04:11:31,885 --> 04:11:33,520 affordable most affordable 7369 04:11:33,520 --> 04:11:35,423 units are in the interior part 7370 04:11:35,423 --> 04:11:38,526 of the site here in yellow, all 7371 04:11:38,526 --> 04:11:40,926 the single-family attached we 7372 04:11:41,361 --> 04:11:41,962 have single-family detached, 7373 04:11:41,962 --> 04:11:44,362 throughout the site 46% open 7374 04:11:48,335 --> 04:11:50,237 space which we feel is quite 7375 04:11:50,237 --> 04:11:51,738 noted this from the master 7376 04:11:51,738 --> 04:11:54,738 zoning plan which sherman has 7377 04:12:02,150 --> 04:12:04,151 talked about. One of the 7378 04:12:04,151 --> 04:12:05,152 environmental things just to 7379 04:12:05,152 --> 04:12:06,420 mention is that the 7380 04:12:06,420 --> 04:12:08,288 prioritization of the resources 7381 04:12:08,288 --> 04:12:10,157 we had some discussion with 7382 04:12:10,157 --> 04:12:11,425 over time we feel we are in a 7383 04:12:11,425 --> 04:12:13,260 better spot now than we were 7384 04:12:13,260 --> 04:12:15,162 before there is a 55 inch wide 7385 04:12:15,162 --> 04:12:18,762 what you think is the county 7386 04:12:20,267 --> 04:12:21,468 champions the white oak the 7387 04:12:21,468 --> 04:12:23,471 applicant is doing significant 7388 04:12:23,471 --> 04:12:25,405 strides to save it but however 7389 04:12:25,405 --> 04:12:27,307 we are still concerned about 7390 04:12:27,307 --> 04:12:28,542 how well this will be done in 7391 04:12:28,542 --> 04:12:30,411 total because the applicant on 7392 04:12:30,411 --> 04:12:32,279 the west side of the village 7393 04:12:32,279 --> 04:12:33,514 side is not doing exactly what 7394 04:12:33,514 --> 04:12:35,416 this applicant is doing what 7395 04:12:35,416 --> 04:12:37,417 you do when you have a tree on 7396 04:12:37,417 --> 04:12:39,286 the property line can do the 7397 04:12:39,286 --> 04:12:41,288 best you can on your side. I 7398 04:12:41,288 --> 04:12:43,290 just want to mention that as 7399 04:12:43,290 --> 04:12:44,658 well this is included in a 7400 04:12:44,658 --> 04:12:46,293 self-report vint hill 7401 04:12:46,293 --> 04:12:48,328 improvement concept plan this 7402 04:12:48,328 --> 04:12:48,595 is the current alignment of 7403 04:12:48,595 --> 04:12:50,331 pioneer. 7404 04:12:50,331 --> 04:12:52,332 This is in the back of the 7405 04:12:52,332 --> 04:12:53,567 staff report there will be a 7406 04:12:53,567 --> 04:12:55,469 roundabout plan here we feel 7407 04:12:55,469 --> 04:12:57,337 the applicant is doing their 7408 04:12:57,337 --> 04:12:59,439 share forth their impacts to 7409 04:12:59,439 --> 04:13:00,374 the axis improvements along the 7410 04:13:00,374 --> 04:13:01,508 frontage. 7411 04:13:01,508 --> 04:13:03,377 These are from the design 7412 04:13:03,377 --> 04:13:05,377 guidelines of single-family 7413 04:13:05,378 --> 04:13:07,378 detached single-family 7414 04:13:07,381 --> 04:13:08,549 attached. There is a modified 7415 04:13:08,549 --> 04:13:10,384 townhouse detail which is 7416 04:13:10,384 --> 04:13:11,852 allowing for reduction of 16 7417 04:13:11,852 --> 04:13:13,520 feet in width we feel this 7418 04:13:13,520 --> 04:13:15,389 provides the variety of houses 7419 04:13:15,389 --> 04:13:16,523 that were looking for in this 7420 04:13:16,523 --> 04:13:18,392 area there is also a berm 7421 04:13:18,392 --> 04:13:19,626 utility easement it took a 7422 04:13:19,626 --> 04:13:22,362 while to get to this point this 7423 04:13:22,362 --> 04:13:24,365 is just showing different 7424 04:13:24,365 --> 04:13:26,765 perspectives there is entrance 7425 04:13:31,638 --> 04:13:33,674 features we try to look for 7426 04:13:33,674 --> 04:13:35,675 continuity with the site and 7427 04:13:35,675 --> 04:13:36,643 the other sites I cannot speak 7428 04:13:36,643 --> 04:13:38,678 to all the other sites since 7429 04:13:38,678 --> 04:13:40,180 this is the first one without 7430 04:13:40,180 --> 04:13:41,882 disabilities going to set the 7431 04:13:41,882 --> 04:13:43,717 trend for what happens down the 7432 04:13:43,717 --> 04:13:44,500 stream with the other 7433 04:13:44,500 --> 04:13:45,919 developments. 7434 04:13:45,919 --> 04:13:47,888 This is another perspective 7435 04:13:47,888 --> 04:13:49,723 here with the staff report we 7436 04:13:49,723 --> 04:13:51,692 feel all the planning 7437 04:13:51,692 --> 04:13:52,892 components are consistent 7438 04:13:52,892 --> 04:13:55,729 environment want to point out 7439 04:13:55,729 --> 04:13:56,830 that these are still permitting 7440 04:13:56,830 --> 04:13:58,832 weaknesses that I need to 7441 04:13:58,832 --> 04:14:00,901 mention because were telling 7442 04:14:00,901 --> 04:14:02,803 all sides in our analysis feels 7443 04:14:02,803 --> 04:14:04,237 the applicant has done a really 7444 04:14:04,237 --> 04:14:06,637 commendable job with their 7445 04:14:07,400 --> 04:14:08,975 impacts to these best ministry 7446 04:14:08,975 --> 04:14:10,910 at white oak but we feel that 7447 04:14:10,910 --> 04:14:12,112 we still are not sure how 7448 04:14:12,112 --> 04:14:14,114 successful that would be in 7449 04:14:14,114 --> 04:14:16,820 time with the other development 7450 04:14:16,820 --> 04:14:17,918 to the west there are residual 7451 04:14:17,918 --> 04:14:19,919 impacts to on-site wetlands 7452 04:14:19,919 --> 04:14:22,919 extremes overall could feel the 7453 04:14:24,925 --> 04:14:26,126 applicant has observed the lay 7454 04:14:26,126 --> 04:14:28,280 of the land and resources with 7455 04:14:28,280 --> 04:14:31,280 the schools, there is available 7456 04:14:35,869 --> 04:14:37,871 hospital capacity staff has not 7457 04:14:37,871 --> 04:14:39,873 vetted the additional analysis 7458 04:14:39,873 --> 04:14:41,908 that the applicant is done for 7459 04:14:41,908 --> 04:14:43,760 schools. Just to point out the 7460 04:14:43,760 --> 04:14:44,978 combined applicants have done 7461 04:14:44,978 --> 04:14:46,913 their separate analysis for 7462 04:14:46,913 --> 04:14:48,115 this corridor and it vint hill 7463 04:14:48,115 --> 04:14:50,500 for schools this is included in 7464 04:14:50,500 --> 04:14:51,918 the back of my staff report. 7465 04:14:51,918 --> 04:14:53,920 Sherman spent a lot of time 7466 04:14:53,920 --> 04:14:55,880 talking about schools 7467 04:14:55,880 --> 04:14:57,230 redistricting. My planning 7468 04:14:57,230 --> 04:14:57,990 staff report does not get into 7469 04:14:57,990 --> 04:14:59,426 that scope. 7470 04:14:59,426 --> 04:15:01,940 We are going by what schools 7471 04:15:01,940 --> 04:15:04,330 has provided us it goes back to 7472 04:15:04,330 --> 04:15:06,330 MARCH 2025 redistricting and 7473 04:15:06,332 --> 04:15:08,335 other things is another 7474 04:15:08,335 --> 04:15:09,769 conversation to be had I know 7475 04:15:09,769 --> 04:15:11,104 supervisor gordy we discussed 7476 04:15:11,104 --> 04:15:13,104 that. 7477 04:15:13,106 --> 04:15:14,207 We just have not done a lot of 7478 04:15:14,207 --> 04:15:14,440 additional analysis with 7479 04:15:14,440 --> 04:15:15,975 schools. 7480 04:15:15,975 --> 04:15:20,175 We feel that there is a level 7481 04:15:23,116 --> 04:15:24,350 of uncertainty based on 7482 04:15:24,350 --> 04:15:26,152 assumptions that are made we 7483 04:15:26,152 --> 04:15:27,654 feel with the monetary 7484 04:15:27,654 --> 04:15:28,622 contribution that is provided 7485 04:15:28,622 --> 04:15:31,622 the extra capacity the trends 7486 04:15:35,495 --> 04:15:38,495 in producing yield from others 7487 04:15:39,766 --> 04:15:41,367 developments will have on 7488 04:15:41,367 --> 04:15:42,635 schools we feel it will be 7489 04:15:42,635 --> 04:15:44,637 mitigated we can only speak to 7490 04:15:44,637 --> 04:15:45,471 the analysis the schools have 7491 04:15:45,471 --> 04:15:47,406 given us. 7492 04:15:47,406 --> 04:15:48,750 Just want to mention that as 7493 04:15:48,750 --> 04:15:49,308 well. 7494 04:15:49,308 --> 04:15:51,812 Also there was quarter study 7495 04:15:51,812 --> 04:15:53,713 which was kicked off last small 7496 04:15:53,713 --> 04:15:56,783 area plan for the vint hill 7497 04:15:56,783 --> 04:16:00,383 corridor that was last night of 7498 04:16:07,527 --> 04:16:08,661 course the timing of this 7499 04:16:08,661 --> 04:16:10,529 strathmore has been in the 7500 04:16:10,529 --> 04:16:11,731 pipeline for a long time 7501 04:16:11,731 --> 04:16:14,131 strathmore is before you 7502 04:16:14,534 --> 04:16:15,535 tonight but the small area plan 7503 04:16:15,535 --> 04:16:17,537 was officially kicked off last 7504 04:16:17,537 --> 04:16:19,538 night by the planning office 7505 04:16:19,538 --> 04:16:20,673 with these different products 7506 04:16:20,673 --> 04:16:22,541 we now have more formal 7507 04:16:22,541 --> 04:16:24,544 guidance and help we are going 7508 04:16:24,544 --> 04:16:26,546 to assess the cumulative impact 7509 04:16:26,546 --> 04:16:28,480 in this quarter. I also want to 7510 04:16:28,480 --> 04:16:29,549 mention the process timing of 7511 04:16:29,549 --> 04:16:31,550 the small area plan is in its 7512 04:16:31,550 --> 04:16:33,586 early stages obviously those 7513 04:16:33,586 --> 04:16:34,788 impacts are not known right now 7514 04:16:34,788 --> 04:16:36,589 strathmore has done as much as 7515 04:16:36,589 --> 04:16:38,591 it could have done given the 7516 04:16:38,591 --> 04:16:39,693 timing and its evolution over 7517 04:16:39,693 --> 04:16:40,326 time. 7518 04:16:40,326 --> 04:16:43,996 We feel we are in a supportable 7519 04:16:43,996 --> 04:16:45,640 spot with the application 7520 04:16:45,640 --> 04:16:47,640 planning commission did 7521 04:16:47,660 --> 04:16:49,660 ultimately recommend approval 7522 04:16:49,268 --> 04:16:52,868 with proffers they did it in 7523 04:16:56,743 --> 04:16:58,110 JANUARY there was additional 7524 04:16:58,110 --> 04:16:59,846 consideration by the board of 7525 04:16:59,846 --> 04:17:01,780 county supervisors that was 7526 04:17:01,780 --> 04:17:04,780 made they've been reflected in 7527 04:17:05,418 --> 04:17:06,919 the proffers we are permitting 7528 04:17:06,919 --> 04:17:08,455 are provoked with the proffers 7529 04:17:08,455 --> 04:17:10,389 dated OCTOBER 3 we feel the 7530 04:17:10,389 --> 04:17:11,590 density is consistent it is a 7531 04:17:11,590 --> 04:17:13,660 cohesive plan makes development 7532 04:17:13,660 --> 04:17:15,661 we need rooftops if it feels 7533 04:17:15,661 --> 04:17:17,661 different affordable housing 7534 04:17:23,336 --> 04:17:24,470 needs. 7535 04:17:24,470 --> 04:17:26,339 It's in line with various 7536 04:17:26,339 --> 04:17:28,340 objectives of the strategic 7537 04:17:28,340 --> 04:17:29,409 plan reduced transportation 7538 04:17:29,409 --> 04:17:31,343 staff here we have also 7539 04:17:31,343 --> 04:17:32,812 environment. Here of course the 7540 04:17:32,812 --> 04:17:34,346 applicant and I am happy to 7541 04:17:34,346 --> 04:17:35,415 answer any questions for you 7542 04:17:35,415 --> 04:17:37,349 thank you very much. 7543 04:17:37,349 --> 04:17:38,817 >> Chair Jefferson: anybody 7544 04:17:38,817 --> 04:17:40,486 have any questions for staff? 7545 04:17:40,486 --> 04:17:42,455 All right supervisor stewart. 7546 04:17:42,455 --> 04:17:45,455 >> George Stewart: I have a 7547 04:18:05,945 --> 04:18:07,790 question for transportation. 7548 04:18:07,790 --> 04:18:09,114 By the look of the overall? 7549 04:18:09,114 --> 04:18:10,950 It appears from the least we 7550 04:18:10,950 --> 04:18:12,184 have four lanes with things 7551 04:18:12,184 --> 04:18:14,860 down to two lanes open back up 7552 04:18:14,860 --> 04:18:15,954 to four lanes and back down to 7553 04:18:15,954 --> 04:18:17,156 two lanes. Once more open up 7554 04:18:17,156 --> 04:18:19,910 the four lanes for very short 7555 04:18:19,910 --> 04:18:19,591 period of time back down to two 7556 04:18:19,591 --> 04:18:21,930 lanes. 7557 04:18:21,930 --> 04:18:22,961 According to the traffic 7558 04:18:22,961 --> 04:18:24,129 study there is going to be 7559 04:18:24,129 --> 04:18:26,650 23,000 more trips have you 7560 04:18:26,650 --> 04:18:28,670 first of all coordinated with. 7561 04:18:28,670 --> 04:18:29,935 [Listing names] County so they 7562 04:18:29,935 --> 04:18:31,404 can handle that much traffic 7563 04:18:31,404 --> 04:18:32,939 coming their way [Listing 7564 04:18:32,939 --> 04:18:34,973 names] County so they can 7565 04:18:34,973 --> 04:18:36,141 handle that much traffic coming 7566 04:18:36,141 --> 04:18:36,575 their way, #1, and number two 7567 04:18:36,575 --> 04:18:38,430 why not 7568 04:18:38,430 --> 04:18:40,120 just make it four lanes 7569 04:18:40,120 --> 04:18:41,214 all the way through to avoid 7570 04:18:41,214 --> 04:18:43,982 bottlenecking it occurs to me 7571 04:18:43,982 --> 04:18:45,117 you will get bottlenecking 7572 04:18:45,117 --> 04:18:46,118 anyway once you enter. 7573 04:18:46,118 --> 04:18:47,987 [Listing names]. 7574 04:18:47,987 --> 04:18:49,187 >> department of 7575 04:18:49,187 --> 04:18:50,890 transportation. Supervisor 7576 04:18:50,890 --> 04:18:52,890 stewart great? 7577 04:18:52,358 --> 04:18:55,260 I will start with your first 7578 04:18:55,260 --> 04:18:56,361 regarding coordination in terms 7579 04:18:56,361 --> 04:18:59,961 of the traffic analysis we work 7580 04:19:01,300 --> 04:19:03,202 with the applicant and v.The 7581 04:19:03,202 --> 04:19:05,204 study area typically when we 7582 04:19:05,204 --> 04:19:06,405 look at a rezoning like this or 7583 04:19:06,405 --> 04:19:08,273 multiple in an area we look at 7584 04:19:08,273 --> 04:19:09,975 a specific study area we 7585 04:19:09,975 --> 04:19:12,440 typically don't go beyond the 7586 04:19:12,440 --> 04:19:13,912 limits especially if it's in a 7587 04:19:13,912 --> 04:19:15,380 different county unless it's 7588 04:19:15,380 --> 04:19:15,948 adjacent to a neighboring 7589 04:19:15,948 --> 04:19:17,160 county. 7590 04:19:17,160 --> 04:19:18,417 N our comp plan we 7591 04:19:18,417 --> 04:19:19,752 have vint hill's four lanes 7592 04:19:19,752 --> 04:19:22,752 between rollins fourth road and 7593 04:19:31,496 --> 04:19:33,365 route 28 west of rollins fourth 7594 04:19:33,365 --> 04:19:34,499 road comes to length there are 7595 04:19:34,499 --> 04:19:36,368 certain assumptions made to 7596 04:19:36,368 --> 04:19:37,370 answer your question we do not 7597 04:19:37,370 --> 04:19:37,903 coordinate with. 7598 04:19:37,903 --> 04:19:39,371 [Listing names] 7599 04:19:39,371 --> 04:19:41,371 County we focus 7600 04:19:41,373 --> 04:19:42,474 within the study area at the 7601 04:19:42,474 --> 04:19:43,842 intersections that play. 7602 04:19:43,842 --> 04:19:46,242 >> can address your other 7603 04:19:46,378 --> 04:19:47,512 question when it comes to the 7604 04:19:47,512 --> 04:19:48,413 widening. 7605 04:19:48,413 --> 04:19:49,582 [Listing names] Is our 7606 04:19:49,582 --> 04:19:51,582 transportation case planner 7607 04:19:51,584 --> 04:19:51,750 he's been heavily involved away 7608 04:19:51,750 --> 04:19:53,419 the 7609 04:19:53,419 --> 04:19:54,820 vint hill corridor is 7610 04:19:54,820 --> 04:19:56,388 developed is essentially 2 7611 04:19:56,388 --> 04:19:58,388 miles widening between. 7612 04:20:04,620 --> 04:20:06,798 [Listing names] And cattle run 7613 04:20:06,798 --> 04:20:07,866 when we look at the widening we 7614 04:20:07,866 --> 04:20:09,802 look at impact electric and tio 7615 04:20:09,802 --> 04:20:11,836 for different days look that 7616 04:20:11,836 --> 04:20:13,836 developments individually also 7617 04:20:17,420 --> 04:20:19,440 looked at development as a 7618 04:20:19,440 --> 04:20:21,113 whole to include the seven that 7619 04:20:21,113 --> 04:20:22,948 we are discussing. But that tia 7620 04:20:22,948 --> 04:20:24,182 showed was impacts to several 7621 04:20:24,182 --> 04:20:26,510 key intersections within the 2 7622 04:20:26,510 --> 04:20:28,153 mile corridor since the focus 7623 04:20:28,153 --> 04:20:29,955 of the lightning was within the 7624 04:20:29,955 --> 04:20:31,955 2 mile corridor. 7625 04:20:31,957 --> 04:20:33,158 >> George Stewart: that doesn't 7626 04:20:33,158 --> 04:20:35,930 exactly answer my question I 7627 04:20:35,930 --> 04:20:39,293 will put more in a flat footed 7628 04:20:39,598 --> 04:20:41,500 parts before collecting that 7629 04:20:41,500 --> 04:20:42,701 bend in the road to the west 7630 04:20:42,701 --> 04:20:44,569 that is more of a blind corner 7631 04:20:44,569 --> 04:20:46,504 the point is this is a very 7632 04:20:46,504 --> 04:20:47,606 dangerous rural road to have 7633 04:20:47,606 --> 04:20:49,574 been fatalities and other 7634 04:20:49,574 --> 04:20:51,676 accidents, is that part of the 7635 04:20:51,676 --> 04:20:52,877 road not being widened because 7636 04:20:52,877 --> 04:20:54,846 proffers did not want to be 7637 04:20:54,846 --> 04:20:58,446 given for that specific area to 7638 04:21:12,664 --> 04:21:13,765 make the whole thing for lanes 7639 04:21:13,765 --> 04:21:15,633 all the way through. 7640 04:21:15,633 --> 04:21:17,535 >> it was part of the oral 7641 04:21:17,535 --> 04:21:18,670 discussion with one of the 7642 04:21:18,670 --> 04:21:20,538 things we look at when we 7643 04:21:20,538 --> 04:21:22,700 looked at the quarter 7644 04:21:22,700 --> 04:21:23,508 improvement was the roadway 7645 04:21:23,508 --> 04:21:24,943 improvement we want to look at 7646 04:21:24,943 --> 04:21:26,645 what is feasible within the 7647 04:21:26,645 --> 04:21:28,547 number of developments coming 7648 04:21:28,547 --> 04:21:29,681 in and the improvements being 7649 04:21:29,681 --> 04:21:31,149 proposed when it comes to 7650 04:21:31,149 --> 04:21:31,583 safety that is something 7651 04:21:31,583 --> 04:21:33,519 we 7652 04:21:33,519 --> 04:21:34,719 looked at the applicant is 7653 04:21:34,719 --> 04:21:35,820 relying as part of the cattle 7654 04:21:35,820 --> 04:21:36,621 run case there relighting 7655 04:21:36,621 --> 04:21:38,523 the 7656 04:21:38,523 --> 04:21:39,591 curve in the road one of the 7657 04:21:39,591 --> 04:21:40,792 things we work with the 7658 04:21:40,792 --> 04:21:42,661 applicant on is the roundabout 7659 04:21:42,661 --> 04:21:44,663 and allison asked alex when he 7660 04:21:44,663 --> 04:21:46,531 returns from 2-4 lanes around 7661 04:21:46,531 --> 04:21:48,566 about will serve as a traffic 7662 04:21:48,566 --> 04:21:50,535 control but a safety measure as 7663 04:21:50,535 --> 04:21:51,636 you transition from 2-4 lanes. 7664 04:21:51,636 --> 04:21:52,537 >> George Stewart: no more 7665 04:21:52,537 --> 04:21:52,837 questions. 7666 04:21:52,837 --> 04:21:54,639 School and. 7667 04:21:54,639 --> 04:21:56,575 >> Yesli Vega: come back. 7668 04:21:56,575 --> 04:21:57,642 I have just a few questions I 7669 04:21:57,642 --> 04:21:59,578 will ask for very brief 7670 04:21:59,578 --> 04:22:01,312 responses so I don't run out of 7671 04:22:01,312 --> 04:22:03,147 time and later manager if there 7672 04:22:03,147 --> 04:22:05,150 is another opportunity for 7673 04:22:05,150 --> 04:22:07,152 folks to expand they can do so. 7674 04:22:07,152 --> 04:22:08,287 Based on discussions with my 7675 04:22:08,287 --> 04:22:10,221 office on the 13th we were 7676 04:22:10,221 --> 04:22:12,156 informed that the currently the 7677 04:22:12,156 --> 04:22:13,291 only reason vint hill needs 7678 04:22:13,291 --> 04:22:15,260 widening is because of the 7679 04:22:15,260 --> 04:22:18,260 proposed projects on the table. 7680 04:22:19,898 --> 04:22:20,198 Is that still the understanding 7681 04:22:20,198 --> 04:22:21,199 . 7682 04:22:21,199 --> 04:22:23,134 >> that is correct. 7683 04:22:23,134 --> 04:22:25,700 >> Yesli Vega: my question is 7684 04:22:25,700 --> 04:22:26,304 understanding that this project 7685 04:22:26,304 --> 04:22:28,206 stands alone for scrutiny for 7686 04:22:28,206 --> 04:22:29,640 the products plan to come to 7687 04:22:29,640 --> 04:22:30,308 the area are related as they 7688 04:22:30,308 --> 04:22:32,177 side. 7689 04:22:32,177 --> 04:22:35,777 >> the intent is for them to 7690 04:22:36,380 --> 04:22:36,581 come to a jd 7691 04:22:36,581 --> 04:22:38,581 . 7692 04:22:38,583 --> 04:22:39,684 >> Yesli Vega: have those 7693 04:22:39,684 --> 04:22:40,685 circumstances changed. 7694 04:22:40,685 --> 04:22:42,654 >>,where. 7695 04:22:42,654 --> 04:22:43,822 >> Yesli Vega: does this mean 7696 04:22:43,822 --> 04:22:45,557 these products are initiating 7697 04:22:45,557 --> 04:22:45,890 the need for the road 7698 04:22:45,890 --> 04:22:47,192 improvements. 7699 04:22:47,192 --> 04:22:47,425 >> yes they are 7700 04:22:47,425 --> 04:22:48,359 . 7701 04:22:48,359 --> 04:22:48,593 >> Yesli Vega: 7702 04:22:48,593 --> 04:22:50,395 if traffic 7703 04:22:50,395 --> 04:22:51,496 volumes were unchanged from 7704 04:22:51,496 --> 04:22:53,398 current levels with these 7705 04:22:53,398 --> 04:22:54,933 improvements be necessary for 7706 04:22:54,933 --> 04:22:56,601 public safety or traffic flow. 7707 04:22:56,601 --> 04:22:58,403 >> for congestion purposes it 7708 04:22:58,403 --> 04:22:59,905 would not be necessary. 7709 04:22:59,905 --> 04:23:02,905 >> Yesli Vega: thank you does 7710 04:23:13,184 --> 04:23:15,860 this now then mean that the 7711 04:23:15,860 --> 04:23:16,287 current road is suitable for 7712 04:23:16,287 --> 04:23:17,880 travel should nothing change. 7713 04:23:17,880 --> 04:23:19,230 >> yes. 7714 04:23:19,230 --> 04:23:20,157 >> Yesli Vega: I was also 7715 04:23:20,157 --> 04:23:22,930 informed that there are no 7716 04:23:22,930 --> 04:23:23,194 current safety concerns as the 7717 04:23:23,194 --> 04:23:25,290 accident but have been 7718 04:23:25,290 --> 04:23:27,310 occurring in this area are 7719 04:23:27,310 --> 04:23:28,266 largely due to driver behavior 7720 04:23:28,266 --> 04:23:29,166 rather than road conditions is 7721 04:23:29,166 --> 04:23:31,350 this likert. 7722 04:23:31,350 --> 04:23:33,370 >> that is a part of it there 7723 04:23:33,370 --> 04:23:34,306 was a recent incident at owl's 7724 04:23:34,306 --> 04:23:36,174 nest we believe it was related 7725 04:23:36,174 --> 04:23:38,430 to behavior I have to confirm 7726 04:23:38,430 --> 04:23:40,100 we did look into that x and. 7727 04:23:40,100 --> 04:23:41,212 >> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM 7728 04:23:41,212 --> 04:23:42,147 Chair those are the questions I 7729 04:23:42,147 --> 04:23:44,114 have for now. 7730 04:23:44,114 --> 04:23:45,282 >> Chair Jefferson: before I go 7731 04:23:45,282 --> 04:23:47,184 to supervisor and group when 7732 04:23:47,184 --> 04:23:48,219 you talk about driver behavior 7733 04:23:48,219 --> 04:23:50,254 he took my speeding. 7734 04:23:50,254 --> 04:23:52,190 >> speeding if it's not related 7735 04:23:52,190 --> 04:23:54,920 to the design of the roadway 7736 04:23:54,920 --> 04:23:55,159 not yielding to traffic 7737 04:23:55,159 --> 04:23:55,726 speeding typically under the 7738 04:23:55,726 --> 04:23:57,662 influence. 7739 04:23:57,662 --> 04:23:59,597 >> Chair Jefferson: I just want 7740 04:23:59,597 --> 04:24:01,499 to go back to that blind spot 7741 04:24:01,499 --> 04:24:02,734 that curve. Haven't there been 7742 04:24:02,734 --> 04:24:04,668 a lot of fatalities or anything 7743 04:24:04,668 --> 04:24:06,504 related to that curve if people 7744 04:24:06,504 --> 04:24:08,539 are speeding not paying 7745 04:24:08,539 --> 04:24:08,772 attention going fast or on that 7746 04:24:08,772 --> 04:24:10,542 curve. 7747 04:24:10,542 --> 04:24:11,976 >> in a recent review after 7748 04:24:11,976 --> 04:24:13,644 confirm there's been some 7749 04:24:13,644 --> 04:24:14,812 incident what we call off road 7750 04:24:14,812 --> 04:24:16,714 losing control that is typical 7751 04:24:16,714 --> 04:24:18,549 in a roadway like this we can 7752 04:24:18,549 --> 04:24:19,717 come back with the exact 7753 04:24:19,717 --> 04:24:20,618 incident. 7754 04:24:20,618 --> 04:24:22,787 >> Chair Jefferson: I guess my 7755 04:24:22,787 --> 04:24:23,721 question driver behavior is 7756 04:24:23,721 --> 04:24:24,154 dependent on the road and 7757 04:24:24,154 --> 04:24:25,689 design 7758 04:24:25,689 --> 04:24:27,591 because vint hill is a 7759 04:24:27,591 --> 04:24:28,759 place absent people go fast 7760 04:24:28,759 --> 04:24:29,594 because they feel they can 7761 04:24:29,594 --> 04:24:29,894 correct. 7762 04:24:29,894 --> 04:24:31,729 >> correct. 7763 04:24:31,729 --> 04:24:32,796 >> Chair Jefferson: I have no 7764 04:24:32,796 --> 04:24:34,796 more questions. 7765 04:24:34,799 --> 04:24:37,601 >> Victor Angry: not for you in 7766 04:24:37,601 --> 04:24:38,803 the seven projects all of these 7767 04:24:38,803 --> 04:24:40,738 developments come together I 7768 04:24:40,738 --> 04:24:42,606 don't know if I heard this I 7769 04:24:42,606 --> 04:24:44,442 know we are just talk about one 7770 04:24:44,442 --> 04:24:45,710 now interpersonal connections 7771 04:24:45,710 --> 04:24:46,878 are we going to connect these 7772 04:24:46,878 --> 04:24:48,679 neighborhoods I will ask for 7773 04:24:48,679 --> 04:24:49,814 your one of them I guess we 7774 04:24:49,814 --> 04:24:52,160 have six more to go I would 7775 04:24:52,160 --> 04:24:53,151 really hope so that is kind of 7776 04:24:53,151 --> 04:24:55,219 the best way to get around. 7777 04:24:55,219 --> 04:24:58,219 >> Applicant: there was a great 7778 04:24:59,690 --> 04:25:01,692 deal of attention for these 7779 04:25:01,692 --> 04:25:03,930 interpersonal connection police 7780 04:25:03,930 --> 04:25:03,728 department whenever the 7781 04:25:03,728 --> 04:25:03,995 opportunity was 7782 04:25:03,995 --> 04:25:04,895 available and 7783 04:25:04,895 --> 04:25:06,731 was provided. 7784 04:25:06,731 --> 04:25:08,650 >> Chair Jefferson: 7785 04:25:08,650 --> 04:25:11,650 >> Kenny Boddye: scott if you 7786 04:25:22,680 --> 04:25:23,947 can come back up. 7787 04:25:23,947 --> 04:25:25,883 Thank you for the presentation 7788 04:25:25,883 --> 04:25:27,718 thank you to the applicant 7789 04:25:27,718 --> 04:25:29,720 taken to the transportation 7790 04:25:29,720 --> 04:25:30,754 staff a couple of quick 7791 04:25:30,754 --> 04:25:32,222 questions for me scott in your 7792 04:25:32,222 --> 04:25:33,958 presentation you always do a 7793 04:25:33,958 --> 04:25:35,793 really good job of establishing 7794 04:25:35,793 --> 04:25:37,728 the context of the land use 7795 04:25:37,728 --> 04:25:38,929 around both proposed and 7796 04:25:38,929 --> 04:25:39,864 current if you can bring that 7797 04:25:39,864 --> 04:25:41,732 back up quickly. 7798 04:25:41,732 --> 04:25:42,934 I think it is your first or 7799 04:25:42,934 --> 04:25:44,835 second slide I think your 7800 04:25:44,835 --> 04:25:46,738 second slide I appreciate that 7801 04:25:46,738 --> 04:25:48,705 code I think this is a really 7802 04:25:48,705 --> 04:25:50,741 good job of highlighting where 7803 04:25:50,741 --> 04:25:51,976 this is lot of folks who have 7804 04:25:51,976 --> 04:25:53,845 given concern has tried to make 7805 04:25:53,845 --> 04:25:55,713 it seem like there's some 7806 04:25:55,713 --> 04:25:56,947 far-flung place in the rural 7807 04:25:56,947 --> 04:25:58,716 area where there is an existing 7808 04:25:58,716 --> 04:26:01,116 rpc community but not 7809 04:26:05,389 --> 04:26:06,490 predicable parcels to the east. 7810 04:26:06,490 --> 04:26:07,658 From your expertise as a 7811 04:26:07,658 --> 04:26:09,560 planner to me given how much 7812 04:26:09,560 --> 04:26:12,560 open space is being proposed 7813 04:26:19,803 --> 04:26:21,806 here would this be an 7814 04:26:21,806 --> 04:26:22,739 appropriate transition point 7815 04:26:22,739 --> 04:26:22,940 from the very heavy 7816 04:26:22,940 --> 04:26:24,740 or 7817 04:26:24,740 --> 04:26:25,800 preestablished community as we 7818 04:26:25,800 --> 04:26:26,977 go further out? 7819 04:26:26,977 --> 04:26:28,812 >> Scott Meyer: we feel yes 7820 04:26:28,812 --> 04:26:30,347 given the context it does 7821 04:26:30,347 --> 04:26:32,160 provide for that transition. 7822 04:26:32,160 --> 04:26:33,884 >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate 7823 04:26:33,884 --> 04:26:35,819 that resent this is in the 7824 04:26:35,819 --> 04:26:36,821 development area can you 7825 04:26:36,821 --> 04:26:38,880 elaborate on that. 7826 04:26:38,880 --> 04:26:39,923 >> Scott Meyer: correct we had 7827 04:26:39,923 --> 04:26:41,825 air rural area the rural 7828 04:26:41,825 --> 04:26:43,293 crescent we don't have that 7829 04:26:43,293 --> 04:26:45,290 anymore there are areas where 7830 04:26:45,290 --> 04:26:47,831 we are sensitive to density but 7831 04:26:47,831 --> 04:26:48,932 being on the north side of vint 7832 04:26:48,932 --> 04:26:50,867 hill road this is kind of like 7833 04:26:50,867 --> 04:26:52,200 where srl was suburban 7834 04:26:52,200 --> 04:26:54,200 residential lower density 7835 04:27:05,415 --> 04:27:06,583 nothing is changed with where 7836 04:27:06,583 --> 04:27:08,519 where the lower density 7837 04:27:08,519 --> 04:27:10,553 suburban development could have 7838 04:27:10,553 --> 04:27:12,656 been anticipated for english. 7839 04:27:12,656 --> 04:27:14,424 >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate 7840 04:27:14,424 --> 04:27:15,592 that I think that's an 7841 04:27:15,592 --> 04:27:17,461 important context to me is 7842 04:27:17,461 --> 04:27:18,962 looking at the score door it 7843 04:27:18,962 --> 04:27:20,531 felt like to seven section was 7844 04:27:20,531 --> 04:27:22,433 where we really want to be a 7845 04:27:22,433 --> 04:27:23,666 lot more sensitive to the 7846 04:27:23,666 --> 04:27:25,436 densities that was the actual 7847 04:27:25,436 --> 04:27:26,670 boundary line the rural 7848 04:27:26,670 --> 04:27:28,605 crescent was down there that is 7849 04:27:28,605 --> 04:27:30,540 why all that when we redid the 7850 04:27:30,540 --> 04:27:32,610 comp plan was designated c rise 7851 04:27:32,610 --> 04:27:33,610 versus suburban style density 7852 04:27:33,610 --> 04:27:34,745 is that? 7853 04:27:34,745 --> 04:27:37,145 >> Scott Meyer: left everything 7854 04:27:37,480 --> 04:27:37,948 on the north side is more about 7855 04:27:37,948 --> 04:27:39,616 suburban low-density. 7856 04:27:39,616 --> 04:27:42,452 >> Kenny Boddye: that is all 7857 04:27:42,452 --> 04:27:43,486 for you scott I think that was 7858 04:27:43,486 --> 04:27:44,621 an important place making paolo 7859 04:27:44,621 --> 04:27:46,489 back to you for second. 7860 04:27:46,489 --> 04:27:48,240 To go back to transportation 7861 04:27:48,240 --> 04:27:49,593 and the roadway considerations 7862 04:27:49,593 --> 04:27:51,194 here I noticed some of this is 7863 04:27:51,194 --> 04:27:53,130 sort of just a product of how 7864 04:27:53,130 --> 04:27:55,131 this is being planned out how 7865 04:27:55,131 --> 04:27:59,331 there is going to be six other 7866 04:28:04,308 --> 04:28:05,541 applications brought the way 7867 04:28:05,541 --> 04:28:07,443 let's talk about the traffic 7868 04:28:07,443 --> 04:28:09,312 safety piece about this little 7869 04:28:09,312 --> 04:28:11,314 bit where we have planned 7870 04:28:11,314 --> 04:28:12,482 roundabout signalized 7871 04:28:12,482 --> 04:28:12,682 intersection that were not 7872 04:28:12,682 --> 04:28:14,584 there 7873 04:28:14,584 --> 04:28:16,486 before more collectively 7874 04:28:16,486 --> 04:28:18,354 around pedestrian and things 7875 04:28:18,354 --> 04:28:19,522 like that can you talk about 7876 04:28:19,522 --> 04:28:20,357 the glendora vision for that 7877 04:28:20,357 --> 04:28:21,525 piece. 7878 04:28:21,525 --> 04:28:23,460 >> when it comes to the vint 7879 04:28:23,460 --> 04:28:24,461 hill corridor plan work with 7880 04:28:24,461 --> 04:28:26,329 the applicant for the 7881 04:28:26,329 --> 04:28:28,329 compliment someone arterial 7882 04:28:28,364 --> 04:28:30,400 roadway it's intended to carry 7883 04:28:30,400 --> 04:28:31,635 over 15,000 vehicles per day 7884 04:28:31,635 --> 04:28:33,770 one of the things we work with 7885 04:28:33,770 --> 04:28:35,572 the applicant on is modifying 7886 04:28:35,572 --> 04:28:37,407 the typical sections included 7887 04:28:37,407 --> 04:28:39,409 lower the design speed from a 7888 04:28:39,409 --> 04:28:40,544 safety point of view that helps 7889 04:28:40,544 --> 04:28:42,479 with the character of the 7890 04:28:42,479 --> 04:28:44,381 roadway weekly chore as far as 7891 04:28:44,381 --> 04:28:45,482 the development of self we have 7892 04:28:45,482 --> 04:28:47,384 turn lanes you have your 7893 04:28:47,384 --> 04:28:48,485 crashes mostly at intersection 7894 04:28:48,485 --> 04:28:50,387 that is we have the most 7895 04:28:50,387 --> 04:28:51,554 conflict points to make sure 7896 04:28:51,554 --> 04:28:53,556 all entrances had adequate 7897 04:28:53,556 --> 04:28:55,391 families to meet the standards 7898 04:28:55,391 --> 04:28:56,660 that we have the two 7899 04:28:56,660 --> 04:28:58,461 roundabouts that are proposed 7900 04:28:58,461 --> 04:28:59,663 within the corridor plan one 7901 04:28:59,663 --> 04:29:01,565 and three line pioneer as part 7902 04:29:01,565 --> 04:29:03,400 of strathmore and at the other 7903 04:29:03,400 --> 04:29:04,667 as part of al's nest with 7904 04:29:04,667 --> 04:29:06,502 transition from four lanes to 7905 04:29:06,502 --> 04:29:07,637 two lanes focus at the major 7906 04:29:07,637 --> 04:29:09,572 intersections mullins forge 7907 04:29:09,572 --> 04:29:12,375 road and vint hill to see a lot 7908 04:29:12,375 --> 04:29:13,510 of congestion therefrom safety 7909 04:29:13,510 --> 04:29:15,378 point of view we want to 7910 04:29:15,378 --> 04:29:16,612 separate traffic so you have 7911 04:29:16,612 --> 04:29:18,381 dedicated left and right turn 7912 04:29:18,381 --> 04:29:19,649 lanes in addition to three 7913 04:29:19,649 --> 04:29:21,551 lanes same thing when it comes 7914 04:29:21,551 --> 04:29:23,419 to suddenly manner and vint 7915 04:29:23,419 --> 04:29:24,654 hill you have adequate turn 7916 04:29:24,654 --> 04:29:26,590 lanes and facilities there. The 7917 04:29:26,590 --> 04:29:28,558 plan itself as CHAIRMAN Mission 7918 04:29:28,558 --> 04:29:30,526 has a shared use path on both 7919 04:29:30,526 --> 04:29:32,462 sides will will project will do 7920 04:29:32,462 --> 04:29:33,797 one trail and once on the 7921 04:29:33,797 --> 04:29:35,599 sidewalk on the other it is 7922 04:29:35,599 --> 04:29:37,534 what makes this corridor plan a 7923 04:29:37,534 --> 04:29:39,469 little unique address some of 7924 04:29:39,469 --> 04:29:39,736 the safety and connectivity 7925 04:29:39,736 --> 04:29:41,471 concerns. 7926 04:29:41,471 --> 04:29:42,605 >> Kenny Boddye: left point 7927 04:29:42,605 --> 04:29:44,574 MADAM Chair thank you for 7928 04:29:44,574 --> 04:29:46,476 lending on that shared use path 7929 04:29:46,476 --> 04:29:49,476 is the current condition of 7930 04:29:49,513 --> 04:29:50,130 pedestrian connectivity on this 7931 04:29:50,130 --> 04:29:51,681 part of vint hill road. 7932 04:29:51,681 --> 04:29:53,490 >> there is none or minimal we 7933 04:29:53,490 --> 04:29:53,583 have it any paved shoulders 7934 04:29:53,583 --> 04:29:55,485 it's 7935 04:29:55,485 --> 04:29:55,685 a ditch sections there isto 7936 04:29:55,685 --> 04:29:57,553 walk. 7937 04:29:57,553 --> 04:30:00,456 >> Kenny Boddye: or we would be 7938 04:30:00,456 --> 04:30:00,924 going from dishes to shared use 7939 04:30:00,924 --> 04:30:02,459 path's on both sides. 7940 04:30:02,459 --> 04:30:04,260 >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate 7941 04:30:04,260 --> 04:30:04,761 that thank you MADAM Chair 7942 04:30:04,761 --> 04:30:06,596 throughout. 7943 04:30:06,596 --> 04:30:07,630 >> Yesli Vega: paolo you are 7944 04:30:07,630 --> 04:30:09,532 the men of the night. 7945 04:30:09,532 --> 04:30:10,700 Sort of crew the tia shows the 7946 04:30:10,700 --> 04:30:12,635 daily trips on this project 7947 04:30:12,635 --> 04:30:13,469 will drive up a 2% increase 7948 04:30:13,469 --> 04:30:14,737 right. 7949 04:30:14,737 --> 04:30:16,639 >> that is a projection use 7950 04:30:16,639 --> 04:30:17,473 when we do traffic analysis 7951 04:30:17,473 --> 04:30:18,575 that's 7952 04:30:18,575 --> 04:30:19,676 typical growth when you 7953 04:30:19,676 --> 04:30:22,478 look at traffic study 's. 7954 04:30:22,478 --> 04:30:24,130 >> Yesli Vega: according to the 7955 04:30:24,130 --> 04:30:25,514 tia on this product any need 7956 04:30:25,514 --> 04:30:27,550 for major road improvements. 7957 04:30:27,550 --> 04:30:29,550 > yes frontage improvements 7958 04:30:31,787 --> 04:30:32,550 typically 7959 04:30:32,550 --> 04:30:34,240 . 7960 04:30:34,240 --> 04:30:34,357 >> Yesli Vega: what type of 7961 04:30:34,357 --> 04:30:36,357 improvements. 7962 04:30:37,260 --> 04:30:38,227 >> frontage improvements mainly 7963 04:30:38,227 --> 04:30:40,290 turn lanes accessed on its own 7964 04:30:40,290 --> 04:30:41,163 when we look at development 7965 04:30:41,163 --> 04:30:42,665 individually all it required 7966 04:30:42,665 --> 04:30:44,000 was frontage 7967 04:30:44,000 --> 04:30:45,134 improvements left 7968 04:30:45,134 --> 04:30:47,136 and right turn lanes. 7969 04:30:47,136 --> 04:30:48,404 >> Yesli Vega: can have scott, 7970 04:30:48,404 --> 04:30:50,106 please thank you paolo. 7971 04:30:50,106 --> 04:30:52,506 >> Yesli Vega: scott you 7972 04:30:53,676 --> 04:30:55,678 mentioned staff had not had 7973 04:30:55,678 --> 04:30:56,845 enough time to properly get the 7974 04:30:56,845 --> 04:30:58,130 school analysis can you 7975 04:30:58,130 --> 04:30:59,848 elaborate a little bit on that. 7976 04:30:59,848 --> 04:31:02,848 > Scott Meyer: a couple of 7977 04:31:07,991 --> 04:31:09,992 things. I'm glad you are asking 7978 04:31:09,992 --> 04:31:11,160 we received our development mac 7979 04:31:11,160 --> 04:31:13,162 statement from the schools 7980 04:31:13,162 --> 04:31:15,165 that's attached misstep report 7981 04:31:15,165 --> 04:31:18,670 the applicant at the same time 7982 04:31:18,670 --> 04:31:19,340 has gone a collaborative vint 7983 04:31:19,340 --> 04:31:21,370 hill corridor study on their 7984 04:31:21,370 --> 04:31:22,304 assessment of schools that was 7985 04:31:22,304 --> 04:31:25,904 sent to the schools the county 7986 04:31:26,743 --> 04:31:28,711 schools we are reflecting that 7987 04:31:28,711 --> 04:31:30,546 in the report but we are basing 7988 04:31:30,546 --> 04:31:32,515 our analysis on what the 7989 04:31:32,515 --> 04:31:35,384 schools are given us. We have 7990 04:31:35,384 --> 04:31:36,619 not done we don't have the 7991 04:31:36,619 --> 04:31:39,521 expertise to do an extra level 7992 04:31:39,521 --> 04:31:40,590 of analysis. 7993 04:31:40,590 --> 04:31:41,824 It is acknowledged and 7994 04:31:41,824 --> 04:31:43,759 understood that the trends MAY 7995 04:31:43,759 --> 04:31:46,280 be changing but we don't have 7996 04:31:46,280 --> 04:31:49,132 the metrics behind what if the 7997 04:31:49,132 --> 04:31:50,990 applicant is done. 7998 04:31:50,990 --> 04:31:51,233 Sherman can 7999 04:31:51,233 --> 04:31:53,135 probably answer that 8000 04:31:53,135 --> 04:31:53,402 a lot better than I would be 8001 04:31:53,402 --> 04:31:55,402 able to. 8002 04:31:55,805 --> 04:31:57,673 >> Yesli Vega: I was just 8003 04:31:57,673 --> 04:31:59,609 curious since you said you had 8004 04:31:59,609 --> 04:32:02,900 outfitted the school analysis 8005 04:32:02,645 --> 04:32:04,647 okay I brought this up earlier 8006 04:32:04,647 --> 04:32:06,515 today in a different project it 8007 04:32:06,515 --> 04:32:10,115 seems to be a reoccurring trend 8008 04:32:14,690 --> 04:32:15,691 here one that we need to figure 8009 04:32:15,691 --> 04:32:16,892 out and figure out rather 8010 04:32:16,892 --> 04:32:18,928 quickly it also has to do with 8011 04:32:18,928 --> 04:32:20,863 the required four minute travel 8012 04:32:20,863 --> 04:32:22,732 time for basic life support 8013 04:32:22,732 --> 04:32:24,267 this falls outside of that 8014 04:32:24,267 --> 04:32:24,500 radius what are the plans maybe 8015 04:32:24,500 --> 04:32:25,802 it MAY 8016 04:32:25,802 --> 04:32:27,737 be supervisor gordy the 8017 04:32:27,737 --> 04:32:28,938 presentation to mention the one 8018 04:32:28,938 --> 04:32:29,805 that will service this entire 8019 04:32:29,805 --> 04:32:30,873 area. 8020 04:32:30,873 --> 04:32:32,808 [Unclear audio] Are you aware 8021 04:32:32,808 --> 04:32:34,710 can you share any of that scott 8022 04:32:34,710 --> 04:32:36,712 are you in a position to do so. 8023 04:32:36,712 --> 04:32:37,913 >> Scott Meyer: I don't have 8024 04:32:37,913 --> 04:32:39,781 specifics on that supervisor 8025 04:32:39,781 --> 04:32:40,716 gordy if there is anything you 8026 04:32:40,716 --> 04:32:42,716 want to say. 8027 04:32:43,352 --> 04:32:44,319 >> Yesli Vega: I do have more 8028 04:32:44,319 --> 04:32:46,355 things speed there is a 8029 04:32:46,355 --> 04:32:49,910 proposed fire station site that 8030 04:32:49,910 --> 04:32:50,993 would be offered as another one 8031 04:32:50,993 --> 04:32:53,829 of the departments at sellers 8032 04:32:53,829 --> 04:32:55,264 road now was last note the fire 8033 04:32:55,264 --> 04:32:56,799 departments already working 8034 04:32:56,799 --> 04:32:57,233 with the developer on and 8035 04:32:57,233 --> 04:32:58,340 compositions about 8036 04:32:58,340 --> 04:33:00,340 that site. 8037 04:33:03,539 --> 04:33:06,539 >> Yesli Vega: is the county 8038 04:33:06,742 --> 04:33:07,910 arborist here. 8039 04:33:07,910 --> 04:33:11,510 I have a couple of questions 8040 04:33:14,683 --> 04:33:16,683 for you sir. 8041 04:33:19,870 --> 04:33:20,222 We heard a little bit about the 8042 04:33:20,222 --> 04:33:21,990 white oak tree and at the 8043 04:33:21,990 --> 04:33:23,158 clearing and all of that can 8044 04:33:23,158 --> 04:33:24,993 talk a little bit about the 8045 04:33:24,993 --> 04:33:27,290 concerns I did read a little 8046 04:33:27,290 --> 04:33:28,430 bit about it misstep report but 8047 04:33:28,430 --> 04:33:29,898 for the public awareness I like 8048 04:33:29,898 --> 04:33:32,898 to hear it from you. 8049 04:33:35,170 --> 04:33:37,570 >> our requirements talks about 8050 04:33:37,706 --> 04:33:38,808 tree preservation is basically 8051 04:33:38,808 --> 04:33:41,410 what it states is every inch 8052 04:33:41,410 --> 04:33:44,410 diameter should be out 1 foot 8053 04:33:46,715 --> 04:33:48,717 radius that would be with the 8054 04:33:48,717 --> 04:33:49,718 54 inch tree it should go out a 8055 04:33:49,718 --> 04:33:52,718 minimum of 54 feet to no 8056 04:33:55,524 --> 04:33:57,460 disturbance no compaction no 8057 04:33:57,460 --> 04:33:59,461 impact to the tree roots none 8058 04:33:59,461 --> 04:34:01,463 whatsoever. The concern that we 8059 04:34:01,463 --> 04:34:03,863 have is the adjacent 8060 04:34:05,433 --> 04:34:07,302 development is not doing a 8061 04:34:07,302 --> 04:34:08,403 mirror image. My industry 8062 04:34:08,403 --> 04:34:10,803 actually calls for more 8063 04:34:13,909 --> 04:34:15,844 protection as 1.5 feet but rdc 8064 04:34:15,844 --> 04:34:16,778 only requires 1 foot radius per 8065 04:34:16,778 --> 04:34:17,846 inch. They are 8066 04:34:17,846 --> 04:34:18,947 offering to do a 8067 04:34:18,947 --> 04:34:20,816 chemical treatment with. 8068 04:34:20,816 --> 04:34:21,984 [Listing names] Which is a 8069 04:34:21,984 --> 04:34:23,984 growth regulator growth 8070 04:34:24,620 --> 04:34:26,455 regulator physically slows the 8071 04:34:26,455 --> 04:34:27,122 tree down so it can handle 8072 04:34:27,122 --> 04:34:29,122 certain impacts specifically 8073 04:34:32,594 --> 04:34:33,796 with the root compaction and 8074 04:34:33,796 --> 04:34:35,697 root damage of some kind. 8075 04:34:35,697 --> 04:34:37,533 >> Yesli Vega: okay. Thank you 8076 04:34:37,533 --> 04:34:39,670 for that explanation scott 8077 04:34:39,670 --> 04:34:40,602 think it is going to be you I'm 8078 04:34:40,602 --> 04:34:44,802 sorry sir I did not catch her 8079 04:34:46,241 --> 04:34:48,241 name. 8080 04:34:52,481 --> 04:34:54,382 Scott can you show me I don't 8081 04:34:54,382 --> 04:34:55,884 know if you have it in the 8082 04:34:55,884 --> 04:34:57,552 presentation I know there are 8083 04:34:57,552 --> 04:34:58,720 some concerns about impacted 8084 04:34:58,720 --> 04:34:59,454 wetlands in different parts 8085 04:34:59,454 --> 04:35:00,622 can 8086 04:35:00,622 --> 04:35:01,489 you talk to me a little bit 8087 04:35:01,489 --> 04:35:03,489 about that. 8088 04:35:04,492 --> 04:35:08,920 >> Scott Meyer: this I guess it 8089 04:35:08,960 --> 04:35:11,696 is probably unclear there is a 8090 04:35:11,833 --> 04:35:14,200 it is up in this area here. 8091 04:35:14,200 --> 04:35:17,602 I should probably go to the 8092 04:35:23,345 --> 04:35:25,345 excuse me. 8093 04:35:25,681 --> 04:35:29,281 Where this road is right here 8094 04:35:29,951 --> 04:35:31,119 it is crossing. 8095 04:35:31,119 --> 04:35:33,622 This area as well. We always 8096 04:35:33,622 --> 04:35:37,222 tried to look for a connected 8097 04:35:39,962 --> 04:35:41,963 contiguous network of areas but 8098 04:35:41,963 --> 04:35:43,131 we have that mostly. Again when 8099 04:35:43,131 --> 04:35:46,731 this came in didn't have the 8100 04:35:48,803 --> 04:35:49,971 scope one of the issues was 8101 04:35:49,971 --> 04:35:51,840 where is this road going to 8102 04:35:51,840 --> 04:35:54,843 when you see how it fits into 8103 04:35:54,843 --> 04:35:56,778 the surrounding development it 8104 04:35:56,778 --> 04:35:58,313 does link to adjacent 8105 04:35:58,313 --> 04:36:00,449 development this is been around 8106 04:36:00,449 --> 04:36:01,783 for a while we didn't have the 8107 04:36:01,783 --> 04:36:03,217 benefit of the aerial of the 8108 04:36:03,217 --> 04:36:05,617 context of how everything 8109 04:36:06,287 --> 04:36:08,287 blinks together. 8110 04:36:08,323 --> 04:36:09,524 We feel the applicant could 8111 04:36:09,524 --> 04:36:11,459 have changed the layout with 8112 04:36:11,459 --> 04:36:12,861 this because this might be more 8113 04:36:12,861 --> 04:36:13,862 of a question for will. 8114 04:36:13,862 --> 04:36:16,262 We talked about the 8115 04:36:17,599 --> 04:36:19,634 prioritization of the resources 8116 04:36:19,634 --> 04:36:19,968 I would rather have will 8117 04:36:19,968 --> 04:36:21,968 clarify that. 8118 04:36:23,271 --> 04:36:24,473 >> of course with wetlands 8119 04:36:24,473 --> 04:36:28,730 there is a process to disturb 8120 04:36:31,580 --> 04:36:32,714 wetlands it is not through the 8121 04:36:32,714 --> 04:36:34,715 counties it is through the 8122 04:36:34,715 --> 04:36:36,618 state and federal permitting. 8123 04:36:36,618 --> 04:36:38,520 When we see wetlands they serve 8124 04:36:38,520 --> 04:36:39,654 a purpose in the natural 8125 04:36:39,654 --> 04:36:41,523 environment would try to 8126 04:36:41,523 --> 04:36:45,123 minimize or reduce any kind of 8127 04:36:47,162 --> 04:36:48,462 impact whatsoever. 8128 04:36:48,462 --> 04:36:49,130 When we see a wetland is going 8129 04:36:49,130 --> 04:36:50,331 to 8130 04:36:50,331 --> 04:36:52,167 be disturbed with roads or 8131 04:36:52,167 --> 04:36:54,168 with some kind of development 8132 04:36:54,168 --> 04:36:56,204 we always discouraged that in 8133 04:36:56,204 --> 04:36:57,438 some fashion and try to have a 8134 04:36:57,438 --> 04:36:59,373 different layout proposed for. 8135 04:36:59,373 --> 04:37:01,208 >> Yesli Vega: was done here. 8136 04:37:01,208 --> 04:37:02,376 >> they adjusted it thought 8137 04:37:02,376 --> 04:37:04,345 maybe they could do more but 8138 04:37:04,345 --> 04:37:05,379 they did adjust the did listen 8139 04:37:05,379 --> 04:37:05,647 to our comments. 8140 04:37:05,647 --> 04:37:07,281 >> Yesli 8141 04:37:07,281 --> 04:37:09,217 Vega: okay thank you. 8142 04:37:09,217 --> 04:37:10,218 That's all have MADAM Chair 8143 04:37:10,218 --> 04:37:12,218 school at all). 8144 04:37:12,220 --> 04:37:13,354 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 8145 04:37:13,354 --> 04:37:15,189 paolo please I just have a 8146 04:37:15,189 --> 04:37:17,358 quick question about the 8147 04:37:17,358 --> 04:37:19,358 roundabout. 8148 04:37:19,394 --> 04:37:20,862 And going back to something 8149 04:37:20,862 --> 04:37:23,262 supervisor stewart was asking 8150 04:37:23,398 --> 04:37:23,998 for it on the roundabouts I 8151 04:37:23,998 --> 04:37:25,467 know it is his traffic is it 8152 04:37:25,467 --> 04:37:25,733 also there is a couple in my 8153 04:37:25,733 --> 04:37:27,733 district. 8154 04:37:32,373 --> 04:37:33,541 In this instance are we on a 8155 04:37:33,541 --> 04:37:35,410 trend of using roundabouts to 8156 04:37:35,410 --> 04:37:38,513 ease not only is the traffic 8157 04:37:38,513 --> 04:37:40,548 but also there's been 8158 04:37:40,548 --> 04:37:41,949 fatalities that prevent that a 8159 04:37:41,949 --> 04:37:43,418 little bit more as well. 8160 04:37:43,418 --> 04:37:45,418 >> Scott Meyer: does 8161 04:37:45,420 --> 04:37:47,420 roundabouts typically causes 8162 04:37:49,560 --> 04:37:51,920 you to slow down there is a 8163 04:37:51,920 --> 04:37:53,928 small pinch point it forces you 8164 04:37:53,928 --> 04:37:55,300 to slow down as you approach 8165 04:37:55,300 --> 04:37:58,300 the intersection there is a 8166 04:37:59,900 --> 04:38:01,102 trend with roundabouts dude 8167 04:38:01,102 --> 04:38:02,937 need right away in a situation 8168 04:38:02,937 --> 04:38:04,710 where it is part of a 8169 04:38:04,710 --> 04:38:05,940 development it does make it 8170 04:38:05,940 --> 04:38:07,408 easier to implement a 8171 04:38:07,408 --> 04:38:09,677 roundabout as implement is 8172 04:38:09,677 --> 04:38:10,645 being provided as part of the 8173 04:38:10,645 --> 04:38:12,645 improvement. 8174 04:38:12,713 --> 04:38:13,881 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: is 8175 04:38:13,881 --> 04:38:15,881 more cost-effective. 8176 04:38:15,883 --> 04:38:17,719 >> long-term has signal prices 8177 04:38:17,719 --> 04:38:18,887 are going up as well it is a 8178 04:38:18,887 --> 04:38:20,688 knowledge of how much right 8179 04:38:20,688 --> 04:38:22,490 away and how much room is 8180 04:38:22,490 --> 04:38:23,624 available to complete the 8181 04:38:23,624 --> 04:38:24,759 improvement. 8182 04:38:24,759 --> 04:38:26,794 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 8183 04:38:26,794 --> 04:38:28,762 last question as we progress 8184 04:38:28,762 --> 04:38:29,731 with the other projects should 8185 04:38:29,731 --> 04:38:31,632 we expect more. 8186 04:38:31,632 --> 04:38:32,734 >> at this time only to his 8187 04:38:32,734 --> 04:38:33,835 being proposed the tool 8188 04:38:33,835 --> 04:38:35,804 roundabout is part of the 8189 04:38:35,804 --> 04:38:37,771 entire: the jda would implement 8190 04:38:37,771 --> 04:38:39,600 the roundabout as part of the 8191 04:38:39,600 --> 04:38:40,808 one thing but the way the 8192 04:38:40,808 --> 04:38:42,643 properties are set up it is 8193 04:38:42,643 --> 04:38:43,811 possible others can occur. 8194 04:38:43,811 --> 04:38:44,440 The possibility in the proper 8195 04:38:44,440 --> 04:38:45,646 burden. 8196 04:38:45,646 --> 04:38:47,646 > George Stewart: 8197 04:38:51,850 --> 04:38:52,319 this is for scott. 8198 04:38:52,319 --> 04:38:56,519 When your mention of this in my 8199 04:38:57,258 --> 04:38:59,930 area plan from last night you 8200 04:38:59,930 --> 04:39:00,227 said that certain impacts are 8201 04:39:00,227 --> 04:39:03,227 not known yet and combining 8202 04:39:03,564 --> 04:39:06,367 that with your lack of 8203 04:39:06,367 --> 04:39:08,767 information about the impact 8204 04:39:15,108 --> 04:39:16,243 from schools how can you check 8205 04:39:16,243 --> 04:39:18,212 this out to say this is 8206 04:39:18,212 --> 04:39:18,446 something that should be going 8207 04:39:18,446 --> 04:39:20,414 forward? 8208 04:39:20,414 --> 04:39:21,615 >> Scott Meyer: our director 8209 04:39:21,615 --> 04:39:24,150 tonya washington can address 8210 04:39:24,451 --> 04:39:25,553 that. 8211 04:39:25,553 --> 04:39:27,521 >> good evening tonya 8212 04:39:27,521 --> 04:39:29,921 washington rector of the 8213 04:39:30,491 --> 04:39:32,326 planning office supervisor 8214 04:39:32,326 --> 04:39:34,726 stewart when the board 8215 04:39:37,310 --> 04:39:38,966 initiated the vint hill court 8216 04:39:38,966 --> 04:39:40,801 or small area plan included 8217 04:39:40,801 --> 04:39:42,803 note to the board of these 8218 04:39:42,803 --> 04:39:44,805 applications had already been 8219 04:39:44,805 --> 04:39:46,240 submitted and already under 8220 04:39:46,240 --> 04:39:47,808 county review that he will 8221 04:39:47,808 --> 04:39:48,976 likely be most certainly be 8222 04:39:48,976 --> 04:39:50,778 coming to the board fraction 8223 04:39:50,778 --> 04:39:54,378 prior to the small area plan 8224 04:39:54,781 --> 04:39:56,283 being completed small area plan 8225 04:39:56,283 --> 04:39:57,918 will be focusing on a larger 8226 04:39:57,918 --> 04:40:01,518 area not just the area covered 8227 04:40:01,555 --> 04:40:03,490 by these applications given 8228 04:40:03,490 --> 04:40:06,894 that it will take about two 8229 04:40:06,894 --> 04:40:07,995 years to complete the small 8230 04:40:07,995 --> 04:40:09,163 area plan we could not hold out 8231 04:40:09,163 --> 04:40:11,310 these rezoning applications 8232 04:40:11,310 --> 04:40:12,933 which are on it when your clock 8233 04:40:12,933 --> 04:40:15,636 before we could complete the 8234 04:40:15,636 --> 04:40:19,836 small area plan the focus is to 8235 04:40:22,243 --> 04:40:23,543 continue to staff review 8236 04:40:23,543 --> 04:40:25,312 working with supervisor gordy 8237 04:40:25,312 --> 04:40:27,712 on these applications to 8238 04:40:34,221 --> 04:40:35,389 ultimately get a product 8239 04:40:35,389 --> 04:40:37,325 depending upon what happens 8240 04:40:37,325 --> 04:40:38,493 with the other applications the 8241 04:40:38,493 --> 04:40:40,328 board can make a decision on 8242 04:40:40,328 --> 04:40:42,230 with the garlic to the small 8243 04:40:42,230 --> 04:40:43,797 area plan itself whatever 8244 04:40:43,797 --> 04:40:45,365 decisions the board ultimately 8245 04:40:45,365 --> 04:40:47,234 makes almost applications will 8246 04:40:47,234 --> 04:40:48,802 get folded into the larger 8247 04:40:48,802 --> 04:40:50,270 analysis for this area. For the 8248 04:40:50,270 --> 04:40:51,671 small area plan these 8249 04:40:51,671 --> 04:40:53,307 applications again were 8250 04:40:53,307 --> 04:40:55,309 submitted quite some time 8251 04:40:55,309 --> 04:40:56,476 before the small area plan was 8252 04:40:56,476 --> 04:40:58,412 initiated because they are 8253 04:40:58,412 --> 04:41:00,347 rezoning applications and for 8254 04:41:00,347 --> 04:41:01,515 the state code there is a time 8255 04:41:01,515 --> 04:41:03,417 clock on them we needed to 8256 04:41:03,417 --> 04:41:06,417 continue to move forward this 8257 04:41:12,225 --> 04:41:13,393 is somewhat unique situation. 8258 04:41:13,393 --> 04:41:15,329 Just to the extent we have a 8259 04:41:15,329 --> 04:41:17,264 small area plan started later 8260 04:41:17,264 --> 04:41:18,665 we did have to move forward 8261 04:41:18,665 --> 04:41:19,533 with the review of these 8262 04:41:19,533 --> 04:41:21,335 applications for. 8263 04:41:21,335 --> 04:41:21,502 >> George Stewart: I am kind of 8264 04:41:21,502 --> 04:41:23,237 new. 8265 04:41:23,237 --> 04:41:24,405 How much time is left on the 8266 04:41:24,405 --> 04:41:25,239 clock. 8267 04:41:25,239 --> 04:41:26,640 >> Tanya Washington: or 8268 04:41:26,640 --> 04:41:26,907 strathmore what is the 8269 04:41:26,907 --> 04:41:28,442 timeframe? 8270 04:41:28,442 --> 04:41:31,442 For strathmore when your clock 8271 04:41:42,790 --> 04:41:43,891 has already passed. 8272 04:41:43,891 --> 04:41:44,925 [Unclear audio] It was 8273 04:41:44,925 --> 04:41:46,827 submitted APRIL 2023. 8274 04:41:46,827 --> 04:41:47,995 >> George Stewart: got you 8275 04:41:47,995 --> 04:41:48,429 taking more time for smart 8276 04:41:48,429 --> 04:41:49,930 community 8277 04:41:49,930 --> 04:41:50,830 input will still have 8278 04:41:50,830 --> 04:41:52,830 is the past. 8279 04:41:52,900 --> 04:41:55,350 >> Tanya Washington: I will say 8280 04:41:55,350 --> 04:41:56,837 for this rezoning application 8281 04:41:56,837 --> 04:41:58,839 as well as further land-use 8282 04:41:58,839 --> 04:41:59,907 applications going through the 8283 04:41:59,907 --> 04:42:01,108 entitlement process the 8284 04:42:01,108 --> 04:42:03,508 planning office has guidelines 8285 04:42:06,130 --> 04:42:08,130 that strongly encourage 8286 04:42:08,480 --> 04:42:09,216 applicants to do community 8287 04:42:09,216 --> 04:42:11,118 engagement prior to coming to 8288 04:42:11,118 --> 04:42:13,530 public hearings prior to the 8289 04:42:13,530 --> 04:42:15,530 planning commission public 8290 04:42:15,550 --> 04:42:16,289 hearings. This project did go 8291 04:42:16,289 --> 04:42:18,158 through community engagement 8292 04:42:18,158 --> 04:42:21,758 I'm sure MR. Patrick can speak 8293 04:42:26,990 --> 04:42:27,133 to that we do encourage that so 8294 04:42:27,133 --> 04:42:29,690 the community has an 8295 04:42:29,690 --> 04:42:30,270 opportunity for the product is 8296 04:42:30,270 --> 04:42:30,537 still going through the county 8297 04:42:30,537 --> 04:42:32,206 review 8298 04:42:32,206 --> 04:42:34,241 to be able to provide 8299 04:42:34,241 --> 04:42:36,109 their feedback and applicant 8300 04:42:36,109 --> 04:42:38,111 have the opportunity to make 8301 04:42:38,111 --> 04:42:39,146 adjustments to those 8302 04:42:39,146 --> 04:42:40,446 applications prior to starting 8303 04:42:40,446 --> 04:42:41,114 the formal public review 8304 04:42:41,114 --> 04:42:42,283 process. 8305 04:42:42,283 --> 04:42:44,317 >> George Stewart: thank you. 8306 04:42:44,317 --> 04:42:46,253 >> Chair Jefferson: before I 8307 04:42:46,253 --> 04:42:49,853 want to supervisor gordy I want 8308 04:42:52,926 --> 04:42:54,794 to invite the applicant to come 8309 04:42:54,794 --> 04:42:56,830 back up if you can answer 8310 04:42:56,830 --> 04:42:58,831 questions about your community 8311 04:42:58,831 --> 04:43:00,834 engagement will be up for the 8312 04:43:00,834 --> 04:43:02,690 committee has multiple points 8313 04:43:02,690 --> 04:43:03,937 obviously the applicants do 8314 04:43:03,937 --> 04:43:05,873 their community town halls 8315 04:43:05,873 --> 04:43:07,730 clearly plan commission meeting 8316 04:43:07,730 --> 04:43:08,875 for approval given but if you 8317 04:43:08,875 --> 04:43:09,943 can give us a bit more 8318 04:43:09,943 --> 04:43:11,780 information about that. 8319 04:43:11,780 --> 04:43:13,120 Turn on the microphone. 8320 04:43:13,120 --> 04:43:14,881 >> Applicant: thank you for 8321 04:43:14,881 --> 04:43:16,490 asking the question. We had 8322 04:43:16,490 --> 04:43:17,950 three community engagement 8323 04:43:17,950 --> 04:43:19,886 efforts on this property we did 8324 04:43:19,886 --> 04:43:21,870 one that was all mine which was 8325 04:43:21,870 --> 04:43:22,989 reasonably well attended we 8326 04:43:22,989 --> 04:43:25,910 also had two other open house 8327 04:43:25,910 --> 04:43:27,910 type community engagement 8328 04:43:27,794 --> 04:43:28,862 sessions we notified within 1 8329 04:43:28,862 --> 04:43:30,864 mile of this property we had 8330 04:43:30,864 --> 04:43:31,998 sent out 4000 notices two 8331 04:43:31,998 --> 04:43:33,966 different property owners. 8332 04:43:33,966 --> 04:43:35,868 There was a great deal of very 8333 04:43:35,868 --> 04:43:37,871 expensive notice to the 8334 04:43:37,871 --> 04:43:39,720 community and opportunities to 8335 04:43:39,720 --> 04:43:40,974 participate this is in addition 8336 04:43:40,974 --> 04:43:42,876 to the notices because he sends 8337 04:43:42,876 --> 04:43:44,110 out when an application is 8338 04:43:44,110 --> 04:43:45,879 first filed then for the 8339 04:43:45,879 --> 04:43:47,140 planning commission public 8340 04:43:47,140 --> 04:43:50,140 hearings and also for the 8341 04:43:50,684 --> 04:43:51,918 meeting this evening. 8342 04:43:51,918 --> 04:43:53,720 >> Chair Jefferson: just a note 8343 04:43:53,720 --> 04:43:54,988 after we go through the 8344 04:43:54,988 --> 04:43:56,923 questions for the applicant and 8345 04:43:56,923 --> 04:43:59,859 for the county staff will open 8346 04:43:59,859 --> 04:44:01,761 the public hearings that is 8347 04:44:01,761 --> 04:44:02,896 another time to hear from 8348 04:44:02,896 --> 04:44:04,300 people. That's all I have I 8349 04:44:04,300 --> 04:44:06,532 will go to supervisor gordy 8350 04:44:06,532 --> 04:44:10,132 speak I will note onto that 8351 04:44:12,372 --> 04:44:13,606 this application we tapped the 8352 04:44:13,606 --> 04:44:15,642 brakes on it many times much to 8353 04:44:15,642 --> 04:44:19,842 the angst I would say of the 8354 04:44:20,460 --> 04:44:22,281 applicant because I want to get 8355 04:44:22,281 --> 04:44:25,881 a holistic plan done they were 8356 04:44:26,352 --> 04:44:27,921 patient and actually 8357 04:44:27,921 --> 04:44:28,210 contributed I would say 8358 04:44:28,210 --> 04:44:30,210 . 8359 04:44:34,360 --> 04:44:36,395 [Listing names] Did tremendous 8360 04:44:36,395 --> 04:44:38,231 amount of work in studying and 8361 04:44:38,231 --> 04:44:40,232 analyzing what was going on 8362 04:44:40,232 --> 04:44:43,832 with the schools we have three 8363 04:44:45,505 --> 04:44:47,440 elementary schools that are 8364 04:44:47,440 --> 04:44:49,375 closer to this development than 8365 04:44:49,375 --> 04:44:50,676 the one that they are zoned to. 8366 04:44:50,676 --> 04:44:50,877 All under capacity. 8367 04:44:50,877 --> 04:44:52,511 N one of 8368 04:44:52,511 --> 04:44:53,646 the schools had to cancel 8369 04:44:53,646 --> 04:44:57,246 programs because of the lack of 8370 04:45:04,691 --> 04:45:06,691 enrollment. 8371 04:45:06,693 --> 04:45:08,461 Within their schools t claims 8372 04:45:08,461 --> 04:45:09,695 would cost their drama program 8373 04:45:09,695 --> 04:45:11,697 which they were noted for 8374 04:45:11,697 --> 04:45:12,932 because they don't have enough 8375 04:45:12,932 --> 04:45:14,868 students to fund the programs 8376 04:45:14,868 --> 04:45:16,836 we already seen the community 8377 04:45:16,836 --> 04:45:17,904 in this area aging our schools 8378 04:45:17,904 --> 04:45:19,805 are losing enrollment. 8379 04:45:19,805 --> 04:45:21,807 We are seeing yet we know that 8380 04:45:21,807 --> 04:45:23,709 there is capacity as the school 8381 04:45:23,709 --> 04:45:24,944 system has continued I've had 8382 04:45:24,944 --> 04:45:28,544 from day one I've had meetings 8383 04:45:29,480 --> 04:45:30,984 with superintendent Mcdade with 8384 04:45:30,984 --> 04:45:32,184 cheryl latif with my own school 8385 04:45:32,184 --> 04:45:34,153 board member and other school 8386 04:45:34,153 --> 04:45:35,988 board members to talk about how 8387 04:45:35,988 --> 04:45:37,256 the way we analyze schools 8388 04:45:37,256 --> 04:45:39,826 during a planning process in my 8389 04:45:39,826 --> 04:45:41,940 view has been broken. 8390 04:45:41,940 --> 04:45:44,940 When we take these developments 8391 04:45:57,976 --> 04:45:59,211 in isolation you can have one 8392 04:45:59,211 --> 04:46:01,800 development that you take it 8393 04:46:01,800 --> 04:46:03,150 one time they will save this 8394 04:46:03,150 --> 04:46:05,180 development will put the 8395 04:46:05,180 --> 04:46:06,486 schools over capacity then of 8396 04:46:06,486 --> 04:46:08,521 four months later we can have 8397 04:46:08,521 --> 04:46:10,122 another development impacting 8398 04:46:10,122 --> 04:46:11,991 the same exact schools and they 8399 04:46:11,991 --> 04:46:13,125 can say there is no impact. 8400 04:46:13,125 --> 04:46:14,994 Because we don't take a 8401 04:46:14,994 --> 04:46:16,195 holistic look at what's 8402 04:46:16,195 --> 04:46:17,997 happening in the environment 8403 04:46:17,997 --> 04:46:19,532 they've agreed to take that 8404 04:46:19,532 --> 04:46:21,200 holistic look and say it is not 8405 04:46:21,200 --> 04:46:23,235 just about what my development 8406 04:46:23,235 --> 04:46:25,137 is doing but it is about what 8407 04:46:25,137 --> 04:46:27,740 my department is doing along 8408 04:46:27,740 --> 04:46:28,174 with everything else they don't 8409 04:46:28,174 --> 04:46:30,108 have to do this. 8410 04:46:30,108 --> 04:46:32,440 They did not have to do this at 8411 04:46:32,440 --> 04:46:33,279 all. They willingly did it at 8412 04:46:33,279 --> 04:46:35,248 my request so we could take a 8413 04:46:35,248 --> 04:46:37,490 better approach to development 8414 04:46:37,490 --> 04:46:39,490 and understanding and 8415 04:46:39,520 --> 04:46:41,530 mitigating the impact of these 8416 04:46:41,530 --> 04:46:43,530 developments potentially would 8417 04:46:43,550 --> 04:46:44,456 have on our community. Then on 8418 04:46:44,456 --> 04:46:46,250 transportation as well. 8419 04:46:46,250 --> 04:46:47,250 I've asked them to maintain 8420 04:46:47,250 --> 04:46:48,260 moral character. 8421 04:46:48,260 --> 04:46:50,129 Give us a design along vint 8422 04:46:50,129 --> 04:46:52,665 hill that is seamless it is 8423 04:46:52,665 --> 04:46:53,266 every development of the same 8424 04:46:53,266 --> 04:46:55,200 design putting the traffic 8425 04:46:55,200 --> 04:46:57,136 circles it maintains several 8426 04:46:57,136 --> 04:46:58,337 character does not bring up the 8427 04:46:58,337 --> 04:47:01,730 flashing lights he doesn't have 8428 04:47:01,730 --> 04:47:02,241 all those things it helps us to 8429 04:47:02,241 --> 04:47:04,209 maintain the rural character 8430 04:47:04,209 --> 04:47:06,212 along different recorder pro as 8431 04:47:06,212 --> 04:47:08,247 we've gone through this process 8432 04:47:08,247 --> 04:47:10,249 to understanding the impact on 8433 04:47:10,249 --> 04:47:12,384 the schools and the impact on 8434 04:47:12,384 --> 04:47:14,860 the world was and how this will 8435 04:47:14,860 --> 04:47:15,587 work together who tried to look 8436 04:47:15,587 --> 04:47:17,223 at this from a bigger picture 8437 04:47:17,223 --> 04:47:19,224 more contextual approach rather 8438 04:47:19,224 --> 04:47:21,793 than just taking each and every 8439 04:47:21,793 --> 04:47:23,950 case in isolation because as I 8440 04:47:23,950 --> 04:47:24,330 said earlier the whole is 8441 04:47:24,330 --> 04:47:25,970 greater than the sum of the 8442 04:47:25,970 --> 04:47:26,365 parts. 8443 04:47:26,365 --> 04:47:28,334 That is something to see happen 8444 04:47:28,334 --> 04:47:31,136 over and over again throughout 8445 04:47:31,136 --> 04:47:32,304 the county but never changed 8446 04:47:32,304 --> 04:47:34,440 our practices to get better at 8447 04:47:34,440 --> 04:47:36,141 it. To better mitigate against 8448 04:47:36,141 --> 04:47:37,442 separate I appreciate all the 8449 04:47:37,442 --> 04:47:39,311 questions my colleagues scared 8450 04:47:39,311 --> 04:47:41,246 I will save the one accident 8451 04:47:41,246 --> 04:47:45,446 they could tell you that we had 8452 04:47:52,658 --> 04:47:54,527 at owl nest that was caused 8453 04:47:54,527 --> 04:47:56,528 because the view was blocked by 8454 04:47:56,528 --> 04:47:58,528 construction equipment 8455 04:47:58,530 --> 04:47:59,732 replacement waterlines for the 8456 04:47:59,732 --> 04:48:01,600 city of manassas. They had at 8457 04:48:01,600 --> 04:48:03,668 the corner blocked and the 8458 04:48:03,668 --> 04:48:05,537 driver literally cannot see the 8459 04:48:05,537 --> 04:48:07,539 truck that was coming up vint 8460 04:48:07,539 --> 04:48:09,608 hill road the vehicles the 8461 04:48:09,608 --> 04:48:10,775 construction vehicles blinded 8462 04:48:10,775 --> 04:48:11,643 the intersection that is what 8463 04:48:11,643 --> 04:48:13,545 caused that. 8464 04:48:13,545 --> 04:48:15,470 Other than that what this will 8465 04:48:15,470 --> 04:48:16,615 do right now the speed limit 8466 04:48:16,615 --> 04:48:17,817 elders 50 mph I can tell you 8467 04:48:17,817 --> 04:48:19,718 nine times out of 10 I'm going 8468 04:48:19,718 --> 04:48:21,554 45 or slower. Because people 8469 04:48:21,554 --> 04:48:21,753 are just driving slower out 8470 04:48:21,753 --> 04:48:23,555 there. 8471 04:48:23,555 --> 04:48:25,557 Nonetheless we are looking at 8472 04:48:25,557 --> 04:48:26,591 trying to make this a world a 8473 04:48:26,591 --> 04:48:28,991 safer and addressing the 8474 04:48:33,990 --> 04:48:34,233 impacts of the potential 8475 04:48:34,233 --> 04:48:36,101 developments in the area. 8476 04:48:36,101 --> 04:48:37,302 That's all I have for now MADAM 8477 04:48:37,302 --> 04:48:39,204 Chair school and don't have 8478 04:48:39,204 --> 04:48:41,106 anyone else in the queue what 8479 04:48:41,106 --> 04:48:42,607 I'm going to do thank you so 8480 04:48:42,607 --> 04:48:43,742 very much I am going to if we 8481 04:48:43,742 --> 04:48:45,610 can get the sheets I am going 8482 04:48:45,610 --> 04:48:47,546 to open the public hearing for 8483 04:48:47,546 --> 04:48:51,146 agenda item 13 a I'm waiting to 8484 04:48:54,152 --> 04:48:55,320 get the sheets. 8485 04:48:55,320 --> 04:48:57,155 I do have you can go to the 8486 04:48:57,155 --> 04:48:58,356 back I do have throughout the 8487 04:48:58,356 --> 04:49:00,258 sign-up we will go through the 8488 04:49:00,258 --> 04:49:02,160 walls with you guys you have 8489 04:49:02,160 --> 04:49:04,620 three minutes to speak. Unless 8490 04:49:04,620 --> 04:49:06,898 you are an approved 501(C)(3) 8491 04:49:06,898 --> 04:49:08,400 Or something recognized by the 8492 04:49:08,400 --> 04:49:12,600 board when you go to the back 8493 04:49:13,739 --> 04:49:14,773 please state your name and 8494 04:49:14,773 --> 04:49:16,675 where to reside which 8495 04:49:16,675 --> 04:49:18,710 magisterial district you reside 8496 04:49:18,710 --> 04:49:22,910 you will go over there to the 8497 04:49:23,115 --> 04:49:24,650 microphone with the pink 8498 04:49:24,650 --> 04:49:26,218 microphone and make sure that 8499 04:49:26,218 --> 04:49:28,153 you have it close to you so we 8500 04:49:28,153 --> 04:49:32,353 can hear you. That is a common 8501 04:49:34,393 --> 04:49:35,594 concern that I have. 8502 04:49:35,594 --> 04:49:36,600 No other people are signing up 8503 04:49:36,600 --> 04:49:37,496 we will 8504 04:49:37,496 --> 04:49:38,430 get to them I will start 8505 04:49:38,430 --> 04:49:39,665 with. 8506 04:49:39,665 --> 04:49:41,665 [Listing names] 8507 04:50:16,735 --> 04:50:17,702 >> you start screwing are you 8508 04:50:17,702 --> 04:50:19,702 ready to begin. 8509 04:50:20,439 --> 04:50:21,339 >> I'm trying to compose my 8510 04:50:21,339 --> 04:50:24,939 notes please give me a minute. 8511 04:50:25,744 --> 04:50:26,978 >> Chair Jefferson: if you need 8512 04:50:26,978 --> 04:50:28,913 additional time I can call the 8513 04:50:28,913 --> 04:50:29,180 next speakers. 8514 04:50:29,180 --> 04:50:31,115 >> please. 8515 04:50:31,115 --> 04:50:34,115 >> Chair Jefferson: we will get 8516 04:50:36,821 --> 04:50:38,821 the sheets. 8517 04:50:42,494 --> 04:50:42,627 [Listing names] Amy crosby 8518 04:50:42,627 --> 04:50:43,828 . 8519 04:50:43,828 --> 04:50:45,797 [Listing names] If you can go 8520 04:50:45,797 --> 04:50:46,665 to the back again state your 8521 04:50:46,665 --> 04:50:48,867 name where you generally 8522 04:50:48,867 --> 04:50:50,350 reside. 8523 04:50:50,350 --> 04:50:53,350 We needed for the public 8524 04:50:57,575 --> 04:50:59,575 record. 8525 04:50:59,577 --> 04:51:00,812 Good evening is my first time 8526 04:51:00,812 --> 04:51:01,580 attending my name is amy crosby 8527 04:51:01,580 --> 04:51:03,580 11. 8528 04:51:05,717 --> 04:51:07,718 [Listing names] My son attends 8529 04:51:07,718 --> 04:51:09,754 t claim would it is great 8530 04:51:09,754 --> 04:51:10,822 congratulations stuart as I 8531 04:51:10,822 --> 04:51:12,724 read some of your stuff today 8532 04:51:12,724 --> 04:51:14,760 to prepare myself MR. Gordy 8533 04:51:14,760 --> 04:51:16,828 would be my district as follows 8534 04:51:16,828 --> 04:51:18,763 being in brentsville. I've been 8535 04:51:18,763 --> 04:51:21,763 a resident almost 5 years I've 8536 04:51:22,666 --> 04:51:24,502 done a lot of planning 8537 04:51:24,502 --> 04:51:26,504 commission meetings but not in 8538 04:51:26,504 --> 04:51:27,739 the state my ex-husband is a 8539 04:51:27,739 --> 04:51:29,641 former military very familiar 8540 04:51:29,641 --> 04:51:33,841 with a lot of the things that 8541 04:51:33,844 --> 04:51:35,780 happen in indiana. You guys 8542 04:51:35,780 --> 04:51:37,480 don't mind I will read off the 8543 04:51:37,480 --> 04:51:38,917 notes I've been planning I only 8544 04:51:38,917 --> 04:51:40,785 get three minutes the weight 8545 04:51:40,785 --> 04:51:41,886 kind of put some things out 8546 04:51:41,886 --> 04:51:43,721 there if that's okay. 8547 04:51:43,721 --> 04:51:44,822 First of all it is really good 8548 04:51:44,822 --> 04:51:46,724 to know there are seven 8549 04:51:46,724 --> 04:51:48,260 different things because I 8550 04:51:48,260 --> 04:51:49,960 don't think I realized that in 8551 04:51:49,960 --> 04:51:51,896 my head. For the utilities how 8552 04:51:51,896 --> 04:51:54,999 will this endowment add to the 8553 04:51:54,999 --> 04:51:57,200 newly overloaded grid in 8554 04:51:57,200 --> 04:51:59,300 conjunction with all the data 8555 04:51:59,300 --> 04:51:59,604 centers that are coming along? 8556 04:51:59,604 --> 04:52:01,500 Secondly the 8557 04:52:01,500 --> 04:52:03,500 schools I already 8558 04:52:03,400 --> 04:52:04,241 own this question it was what 8559 04:52:04,241 --> 04:52:07,450 elementary school to his feet 8560 04:52:07,450 --> 04:52:08,450 into t claim would I sort. 8561 04:52:08,450 --> 04:52:09,314 [Listing names] Would go into t 8562 04:52:09,314 --> 04:52:12,490 claim would when gentleman said 8563 04:52:12,490 --> 04:52:13,510 we are under capacity in our 8564 04:52:13,510 --> 04:52:14,219 schools I didn't know that I 8565 04:52:14,219 --> 04:52:16,120 have 1/5 grader and letter to 8566 04:52:16,120 --> 04:52:17,321 clay would we did lose the 8567 04:52:17,321 --> 04:52:19,257 drama program I did not know it 8568 04:52:19,257 --> 04:52:22,857 was because it was under there 8569 04:52:31,468 --> 04:52:33,337 was under enrollment second 8570 04:52:33,337 --> 04:52:35,339 thing if the timeline can't do 8571 04:52:35,339 --> 04:52:36,507 notes on your timeline for the 8572 04:52:36,507 --> 04:52:38,342 rezoning in a planning 8573 04:52:38,342 --> 04:52:39,577 commission when I change that 8574 04:52:39,577 --> 04:52:41,545 ordinance as you noted it was 8575 04:52:41,545 --> 04:52:43,414 two years already in the making 8576 04:52:43,414 --> 04:52:45,349 but couldn't go ahead and 8577 04:52:45,349 --> 04:52:47,349 accommodate these different 8578 04:52:49,920 --> 04:52:51,956 things I felt there was counter 8579 04:52:51,956 --> 04:52:53,570 intuitive the roads. Vint hill 8580 04:52:53,570 --> 04:52:54,959 road before you get there 8581 04:52:54,959 --> 04:52:56,961 mullins ford it's a nightmare 8582 04:52:56,961 --> 04:52:58,329 it's very sharp curves it is 8583 04:52:58,329 --> 04:53:00,198 tulane's MR. Gordy who said he 8584 04:53:00,198 --> 04:53:02,660 go under 50 in that area I can 8585 04:53:02,660 --> 04:53:04,100 promise you at night people are 8586 04:53:04,100 --> 04:53:06,300 going over 60 miles an hour in 8587 04:53:06,300 --> 04:53:08,500 that area because it is so dark 8588 04:53:08,500 --> 04:53:09,207 there's no streetlights I also 8589 04:53:09,207 --> 04:53:11,141 was thinking with her ever be 8590 04:53:11,141 --> 04:53:13,144 any eminent domain to connect 8591 04:53:13,144 --> 04:53:15,146 to either glenn kirk or rollins 8592 04:53:15,146 --> 04:53:17,150 sport a different way because 8593 04:53:17,150 --> 04:53:18,449 of fraud run over which my 8594 04:53:18,449 --> 04:53:20,117 house except to plug and 8595 04:53:20,117 --> 04:53:22,190 pervert on solitary efforts the 8596 04:53:22,190 --> 04:53:24,210 connection if you look at play 8597 04:53:24,210 --> 04:53:25,189 more it's an award-winning 8598 04:53:25,189 --> 04:53:27,158 subdivision I've only been 8599 04:53:27,158 --> 04:53:29,930 there for years you can connect 8600 04:53:29,930 --> 04:53:30,260 at several different places you 8601 04:53:30,260 --> 04:53:32,129 can connect at vint hill you 8602 04:53:32,129 --> 04:53:34,131 can connect the linden hall 8603 04:53:34,131 --> 04:53:36,330 those connections make other 8604 04:53:36,330 --> 04:53:37,235 connections to glenn kirk to 8605 04:53:37,235 --> 04:53:39,169 rollins sport that gives a lot 8606 04:53:39,169 --> 04:53:41,500 of other ways to go around 8607 04:53:41,500 --> 04:53:43,400 anyways just thinking of that. 8608 04:53:43,400 --> 04:53:45,420 I was wondering about eminent 8609 04:53:45,420 --> 04:53:46,310 domain you have to think about. 8610 04:53:46,310 --> 04:53:48,112 [Listing names] How many homes 8611 04:53:48,112 --> 04:53:50,512 are expected microphone and 8612 04:53:53,117 --> 04:53:54,618 said that teaching staff the 8613 04:53:54,618 --> 04:53:57,180 shortage equals more teachers 8614 04:53:57,120 --> 04:53:58,288 how do you plan to accommodate 8615 04:53:58,288 --> 04:54:00,124 staffing for those teachers 8616 04:54:00,124 --> 04:54:01,325 that might be why the 8617 04:54:01,325 --> 04:54:03,193 elementary schools are under 8618 04:54:03,193 --> 04:54:04,428 filled is because there MAY not 8619 04:54:04,428 --> 04:54:04,562 be seven effort for that which 8620 04:54:04,562 --> 04:54:06,562 I 8621 04:54:07,165 --> 04:54:08,332 did see some rezoning which I 8622 04:54:08,332 --> 04:54:10,300 thought was good at last one 8623 04:54:10,300 --> 04:54:11,335 was utility what is the current 8624 04:54:11,335 --> 04:54:13,335 load capacity. 8625 04:54:13,370 --> 04:54:15,306 >> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry I 8626 04:54:15,306 --> 04:54:16,440 know you have a lot but frankly 8627 04:54:16,440 --> 04:54:18,440 next speaker please. 8628 04:54:21,712 --> 04:54:22,880 >> I'm angela klein I'm from 8629 04:54:22,880 --> 04:54:24,749 brentsville as well as seen 8630 04:54:24,749 --> 04:54:25,983 most of the congratulations 8631 04:54:25,983 --> 04:54:28,983 supervisor stuart on being part 8632 04:54:35,226 --> 04:54:36,360 of the board I'm here asking to 8633 04:54:36,360 --> 04:54:38,162 deny order for this draft 8634 04:54:38,162 --> 04:54:39,363 rezoning application 8635 04:54:39,363 --> 04:54:42,166 development in the rural areas 8636 04:54:42,166 --> 04:54:44,168 will require substantially more 8637 04:54:44,168 --> 04:54:45,402 for structure improvements 8638 04:54:45,402 --> 04:54:47,237 including but not limited to 8639 04:54:47,237 --> 04:54:49,172 the transportation as was 8640 04:54:49,172 --> 04:54:50,507 alluded to on vint hill road 8641 04:54:50,507 --> 04:54:52,309 another connecting roads and 8642 04:54:52,309 --> 04:54:54,178 the proffers offered them I 8643 04:54:54,178 --> 04:54:56,180 reviewed the applicant or 8644 04:54:56,180 --> 04:54:57,315 inadequate to confidential sure 8645 04:54:57,315 --> 04:54:58,448 needs understand a lot of 8646 04:54:58,448 --> 04:55:00,384 planning has gone to this I 8647 04:55:00,384 --> 04:55:03,984 just don't think it equates to 8648 04:55:04,288 --> 04:55:06,290 what we see on a daily basis. 8649 04:55:06,290 --> 04:55:08,292 Their meeting last night the 8650 04:55:08,292 --> 04:55:09,426 others refer to the peremptory 8651 04:55:09,426 --> 04:55:11,295 small area plan was clearly 8652 04:55:11,295 --> 04:55:13,964 attended I think the committee 8653 04:55:13,964 --> 04:55:15,165 should out for that it was well 8654 04:55:15,165 --> 04:55:17,670 received I think it offers the 8655 04:55:17,670 --> 04:55:18,969 county of the applicant to plan 8656 04:55:18,969 --> 04:55:20,969 thoughtfully and intentionally 8657 04:55:20,971 --> 04:55:22,139 by taking a holistic approach 8658 04:55:22,139 --> 04:55:23,974 to the entire nvrc corridor 8659 04:55:23,974 --> 04:55:25,142 when we think of q of the 8660 04:55:25,142 --> 04:55:27,542 infrastructure then needs and 8661 04:55:27,778 --> 04:55:28,979 the fragile watersheds and 8662 04:55:28,979 --> 04:55:30,979 natural resources for 8663 04:55:30,981 --> 04:55:32,981 conservation by approving 8664 04:55:32,983 --> 04:55:34,184 strathmore application 8665 04:55:34,184 --> 04:55:36,986 residents will save the county 8666 04:55:36,986 --> 04:55:38,255 and the supervisor approving a 8667 04:55:38,255 --> 04:55:40,123 developer-based vision for the 8668 04:55:40,123 --> 04:55:42,250 vint hill corridor and wonder 8669 04:55:42,250 --> 04:55:44,280 why we had been had a kickoff 8670 04:55:44,280 --> 04:55:45,950 meeting for the vint hill 8671 04:55:45,950 --> 04:55:47,310 quarter meeting this area and 8672 04:55:47,310 --> 04:55:49,320 what the applicants are 8673 04:55:49,320 --> 04:55:51,320 strathmore applicant than 8674 04:55:51,340 --> 04:55:52,202 others along the vint hill 8675 04:55:52,202 --> 04:55:54,138 quarter are asking for rezoning 8676 04:55:54,138 --> 04:55:56,400 is a big part of the event till 8677 04:55:56,400 --> 04:55:57,774 vint hill corridor small area 8678 04:55:57,774 --> 04:56:01,974 plan I don't see how that can 8679 04:56:05,448 --> 04:56:06,950 be part of the equation as well 8680 04:56:06,950 --> 04:56:08,418 vint hill thought most about 8681 04:56:08,418 --> 04:56:10,420 the roads vint hill is 8682 04:56:10,420 --> 04:56:12,423 currently a two-lane road we 8683 04:56:12,423 --> 04:56:13,656 see a lot of speeders just as 8684 04:56:13,656 --> 04:56:15,525 the neighbor alluded to in 8685 04:56:15,525 --> 04:56:19,620 there I live on salish drive 8686 04:56:19,620 --> 04:56:20,530 across from owls nest we 8687 04:56:20,530 --> 04:56:22,232 mentioned that road was going 8688 04:56:22,232 --> 04:56:24,133 to get relined in roundabout 8689 04:56:24,133 --> 04:56:26,690 would be put there we got the 8690 04:56:26,690 --> 04:56:27,771 police on a nightly basis 8691 04:56:27,771 --> 04:56:29,139 because people like to use vint 8692 04:56:29,139 --> 04:56:31,740 hill as a drag race we are in 8693 04:56:31,740 --> 04:56:32,609 favor of the roundabout but 8694 04:56:32,609 --> 04:56:34,310 traffic is expected to increase 8695 04:56:34,310 --> 04:56:36,179 to approximately 22,000 trips 8696 04:56:36,179 --> 04:56:38,810 along vint hill road which 8697 04:56:38,810 --> 04:56:40,810 currently sees about 11,000 8698 04:56:40,830 --> 04:56:42,118 daily trips I'm using just the 8699 04:56:42,118 --> 04:56:43,320 applicant's estimate of 9.583 8700 04:56:43,320 --> 04:56:45,288 daily trips. It's important for 8701 04:56:45,288 --> 04:56:47,900 you to understand as residents 8702 04:56:47,900 --> 04:56:48,291 of that road it takes about 8703 04:56:48,291 --> 04:56:50,193 15-20 minutes every morning for 8704 04:56:50,193 --> 04:56:51,295 us to get onto vint hill road 8705 04:56:51,295 --> 04:56:53,230 because of the traffic and 8706 04:56:53,230 --> 04:56:56,830 another 20-30 minutes for us to 8707 04:56:57,634 --> 04:56:58,802 go from rollins poured onto 8708 04:56:58,802 --> 04:57:00,704 linton hall if you want to go 8709 04:57:00,704 --> 04:57:02,705 to 66 just in the waiting times 8710 04:57:02,705 --> 04:57:04,808 given the current density. I'd 8711 04:57:04,808 --> 04:57:06,643 really like to see a lot more 8712 04:57:06,643 --> 04:57:07,811 attention to vint hill road 8713 04:57:07,811 --> 04:57:09,646 understanding right now going 8714 04:57:09,646 --> 04:57:10,814 from four lanes counted 8715 04:57:10,814 --> 04:57:12,649 tulane's willie is called a 8716 04:57:12,649 --> 04:57:15,649 bottleneck that area given who 8717 04:57:18,255 --> 04:57:20,290 is already out there and what 8718 04:57:20,290 --> 04:57:22,292 we are going to eventually see 8719 04:57:22,292 --> 04:57:23,727 growth no matter if it is this 8720 04:57:23,727 --> 04:57:24,294 application or others thank 8721 04:57:24,294 --> 04:57:25,461 you. 8722 04:57:25,461 --> 04:57:26,530 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 8723 04:57:26,530 --> 04:57:28,530 next speaker please. 8724 04:57:31,968 --> 04:57:32,836 >> good evening everyone my 8725 04:57:32,836 --> 04:57:34,836 name is. 8726 04:57:35,539 --> 04:57:36,640 [Listing names] And from that 8727 04:57:36,640 --> 04:57:38,541 ketchup and part of the 8728 04:57:38,541 --> 04:57:40,100 gainesville district mutual 8729 04:57:40,100 --> 04:57:42,100 encouragement newly elected 8730 04:57:42,545 --> 04:57:43,747 supervisor possibly overwhelmed 8731 04:57:43,747 --> 04:57:45,616 supervisor to vote in favor of 8732 04:57:45,616 --> 04:57:48,160 the strathmore project and 8733 04:57:51,555 --> 04:57:53,490 supervisor gordy district 1st 8734 04:57:53,490 --> 04:57:55,458 formal supervisor gordy 8735 04:57:55,458 --> 04:57:57,494 supports this project as the 8736 04:57:57,494 --> 04:57:59,494 elected representative for 8737 04:57:59,495 --> 04:58:00,897 their principal district no one 8738 04:58:00,897 --> 04:58:02,532 knows the interest and the 8739 04:58:02,532 --> 04:58:05,532 needs of the district better 8740 04:58:07,671 --> 04:58:09,639 than supervisor gordy for the 8741 04:58:09,639 --> 04:58:11,541 more black petition many of the 8742 04:58:11,541 --> 04:58:13,543 democrats and the board will be 8743 04:58:13,543 --> 04:58:15,545 crossing the political islands 8744 04:58:15,545 --> 04:58:16,779 according supervisor gordy's 8745 04:58:16,779 --> 04:58:18,681 efforts to improve his district 8746 04:58:18,681 --> 04:58:20,550 with this development project 8747 04:58:20,550 --> 04:58:22,552 this is a classic opportunity 8748 04:58:22,552 --> 04:58:25,555 for the board to provide good 8749 04:58:25,555 --> 04:58:27,955 bipartisan government about the 8750 04:58:38,935 --> 04:58:40,870 beach and a packet think the 8751 04:58:40,870 --> 04:58:43,500 proper is also eligible to sell 8752 04:58:43,500 --> 04:58:44,941 the staff support additionally 8753 04:58:44,941 --> 04:58:46,910 it's important not to overlook 8754 04:58:46,910 --> 04:58:48,778 the interest of the current 8755 04:58:48,778 --> 04:58:50,746 landowners many in our county 8756 04:58:50,746 --> 04:58:52,749 uncertain as to help they would 8757 04:58:52,749 --> 04:58:54,384 support their children's higher 8758 04:58:54,384 --> 04:58:55,752 education or have a secure 8759 04:58:55,752 --> 04:58:57,200 retirement when the top suites 8760 04:58:57,200 --> 04:58:58,888 constituents can achieve those 8761 04:58:58,888 --> 04:59:00,790 goals by exercising the private 8762 04:59:00,790 --> 04:59:02,758 property rights to sell the 8763 04:59:02,758 --> 04:59:03,893 properties to developers clinic 8764 04:59:03,893 --> 04:59:05,761 supervisors for to get the 8765 04:59:05,761 --> 04:59:06,896 project devoted not those 8766 04:59:06,896 --> 04:59:08,798 constituents that private 8767 04:59:08,798 --> 04:59:10,800 property rights in the night 8768 04:59:10,800 --> 04:59:12,801 his constituents the ability to 8769 04:59:12,801 --> 04:59:14,804 accomplish is very personal and 8770 04:59:14,804 --> 04:59:15,938 important life goals. 8771 04:59:15,938 --> 04:59:17,941 Sometimes opposing the project 8772 04:59:17,941 --> 04:59:20,810 is the right thing to do and be 8773 04:59:20,810 --> 04:59:22,812 very skeptical of permitting a 8774 04:59:22,812 --> 04:59:24,314 plastics factory which are 8775 04:59:24,314 --> 04:59:25,948 industries known to chemicals 8776 04:59:25,948 --> 04:59:27,883 to waterways but this product 8777 04:59:27,883 --> 04:59:29,785 like the majority does not pose 8778 04:59:29,785 --> 04:59:31,320 significant harm to our 8779 04:59:31,320 --> 04:59:32,989 community although there will 8780 04:59:32,989 --> 04:59:34,924 be people with small change in 8781 04:59:34,924 --> 04:59:36,859 MISS How things once were along 8782 04:59:36,859 --> 04:59:38,394 for the past cannot come at the 8783 04:59:38,394 --> 04:59:39,896 expense of our future we also 8784 04:59:39,896 --> 04:59:41,898 need to understand that 8785 04:59:41,898 --> 04:59:43,899 perfection is something that is 8786 04:59:43,899 --> 04:59:45,340 worth pursuing but is not a 8787 04:59:45,340 --> 04:59:46,902 standard that we hold because 8788 04:59:46,902 --> 04:59:48,337 if we do we won't be voting on 8789 04:59:48,337 --> 04:59:49,905 any project ever because 8790 04:59:49,905 --> 04:59:51,907 nothing is ever going to be 8791 04:59:51,907 --> 04:59:53,900 perfect when it comes to us. 8792 04:59:53,900 --> 04:59:54,911 Supervisor stuart is a 8793 04:59:54,911 --> 04:59:56,112 constituent navigated vote if 8794 04:59:56,112 --> 04:59:58,470 you you have my support in 8795 04:59:58,470 --> 04:59:59,982 voting in favor of this project 8796 04:59:59,982 --> 05:00:01,917 thank you all for your time and 8797 05:00:01,917 --> 05:00:03,152 service to our community for 8798 05:00:03,152 --> 05:00:05,921 elected officials and the staff 8799 05:00:05,921 --> 05:00:06,923 we all deal with a lot of 8800 05:00:06,923 --> 05:00:08,424 difficult people and certainly 8801 05:00:08,424 --> 05:00:08,924 appreciated thank you all so 8802 05:00:08,924 --> 05:00:10,259 much. 8803 05:00:10,259 --> 05:00:12,270 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 8804 05:00:12,270 --> 05:00:13,996 and ms Mcvary ready to speak. 8805 05:00:13,996 --> 05:00:15,932 >> I was here in APRIL of the 8806 05:00:15,932 --> 05:00:17,133 planning commission for the 8807 05:00:17,133 --> 05:00:18,935 first planning commission 8808 05:00:18,935 --> 05:00:20,936 hearing for I came back for 8809 05:00:20,936 --> 05:00:22,104 negative referral they brought 8810 05:00:22,104 --> 05:00:23,939 nothing new to the table the 8811 05:00:23,939 --> 05:00:25,908 applicant I recommend denial 8812 05:00:25,908 --> 05:00:27,910 because they brought nothing 8813 05:00:27,910 --> 05:00:29,912 forth after 90 days to increase 8814 05:00:29,912 --> 05:00:31,947 transportation other than a 8815 05:00:31,947 --> 05:00:33,820 traffic circle at the point of 8816 05:00:33,820 --> 05:00:34,917 pioneer drive they have not 8817 05:00:34,917 --> 05:00:36,152 whether it is 15,000 per unit 8818 05:00:36,152 --> 05:00:38,921 the road has been putting first 8819 05:00:38,921 --> 05:00:40,256 they made no contribution to 8820 05:00:40,256 --> 05:00:41,890 read and think of the road 8821 05:00:41,890 --> 05:00:43,890 filled of elements. 8822 05:00:43,292 --> 05:00:45,761 MR. Patrick, once again talking 8823 05:00:45,761 --> 05:00:47,162 to apollo in transportation the 8824 05:00:47,162 --> 05:00:48,364 road needs to be put in before 8825 05:00:48,364 --> 05:00:50,299 the infrastructure I saw this 8826 05:00:50,299 --> 05:00:52,434 happen 45 years ago and brooke 8827 05:00:52,434 --> 05:00:53,403 senator hazel did not build the 8828 05:00:53,403 --> 05:00:55,271 parkway it cost me $2 million 8829 05:00:55,271 --> 05:00:57,172 of taxpayer money 20 years 8830 05:00:57,172 --> 05:00:58,374 later to do it the road vint 8831 05:00:58,374 --> 05:01:00,175 hill cannot go from four lanes 8832 05:01:00,175 --> 05:01:01,377 to two lanes and schaefer 8833 05:01:01,377 --> 05:01:03,279 factor four lanes from cattle 8834 05:01:03,279 --> 05:01:06,879 run to simply drive two lanes 8835 05:01:10,520 --> 05:01:10,753 down it was supposed to be from 8836 05:01:10,753 --> 05:01:11,921 . 8837 05:01:11,921 --> 05:01:13,856 [Listing names] [Unclear audio] 8838 05:01:13,856 --> 05:01:15,791 as you go from four lanes from 8839 05:01:15,791 --> 05:01:17,759 reed street [Listing names] 8840 05:01:17,759 --> 05:01:19,762 [Unclear audio] As you go from 8841 05:01:19,762 --> 05:01:21,697 four lanes from reed st., tampa 8842 05:01:21,697 --> 05:01:22,932 mile it goes back to two lanes 8843 05:01:22,932 --> 05:01:24,734 then it becomes four lanes from 8844 05:01:24,734 --> 05:01:25,967 the side of tranmere at the 8845 05:01:25,967 --> 05:01:29,567 traffic circle all the way down 8846 05:01:32,642 --> 05:01:34,510 to silas which is only almost 8847 05:01:34,510 --> 05:01:37,510 9/10 of a mile. Then stanley 8848 05:01:42,985 --> 05:01:44,186 once said michael joe biden 8849 05:01:44,186 --> 05:01:46,187 vint hill from owls nest down 8850 05:01:46,187 --> 05:01:48,900 to rollins we will widen the 8851 05:01:48,900 --> 05:01:50,490 curve. The canticle 4 lanes 8852 05:01:51,260 --> 05:01:52,261 counted tulane's counterpoints 8853 05:01:52,261 --> 05:01:55,261 counted tulane and have nothing 8854 05:01:59,868 --> 05:02:01,804 but bottleneck grid brookville 8855 05:02:01,804 --> 05:02:03,673 775 is not enough to put 15,000 8856 05:02:03,673 --> 05:02:04,840 cars a day on a 8857 05:02:04,840 --> 05:02:06,808 two-lane/four-lane road and 8858 05:02:06,808 --> 05:02:08,677 congested with traffic circles 8859 05:02:08,677 --> 05:02:10,212 so there's no floor traffic 8860 05:02:10,212 --> 05:02:11,713 movement there is no flow of 8861 05:02:11,713 --> 05:02:12,915 traffic it will become pure 8862 05:02:12,915 --> 05:02:14,917 gridlock and go to hell her on 8863 05:02:14,917 --> 05:02:16,151 owls nest has had one fidelity 8864 05:02:16,151 --> 05:02:19,151 I've been there 22 years event 8865 05:02:20,856 --> 05:02:22,858 with one fidelity they had two 8866 05:02:22,858 --> 05:02:24,860 motorcycle accidents in last 8867 05:02:24,860 --> 05:02:26,328 year two car accidents with a 8868 05:02:26,328 --> 05:02:29,928 flipped over the hill I might 8869 05:02:33,769 --> 05:02:35,104 cars address they are spitting 8870 05:02:35,104 --> 05:02:37,105 on owls nest right when I come 8871 05:02:37,105 --> 05:02:39,700 out of my driveway there's been 8872 05:02:39,700 --> 05:02:40,142 one fidelity. Two major 8873 05:02:40,142 --> 05:02:42,100 motorcycle injuries and two 8874 05:02:42,100 --> 05:02:43,312 cars that you got the 8875 05:02:43,312 --> 05:02:44,179 neighbor's fence. 8876 05:02:44,179 --> 05:02:46,140 The three people that were 8877 05:02:46,140 --> 05:02:47,449 injured were my neighbors. 8878 05:02:47,449 --> 05:02:49,184 Very prominent old-school 8879 05:02:49,184 --> 05:02:51,120 family golf family that is been 8880 05:02:51,120 --> 05:02:53,220 in the community for 70 years 8881 05:02:53,220 --> 05:02:55,230 and one son is so injured he 8882 05:02:55,230 --> 05:02:56,458 cannot work is on worker's 8883 05:02:56,458 --> 05:02:57,992 compensation he is to get 8884 05:02:57,992 --> 05:02:58,793 surgery he will have to have 8885 05:02:58,793 --> 05:02:58,961 litigation 8886 05:02:58,961 --> 05:03:00,961 . 8887 05:03:01,290 --> 05:03:02,931 >> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry 8888 05:03:02,931 --> 05:03:04,967 your times up can you say your 8889 05:03:04,967 --> 05:03:06,502 name and the magisterial 8890 05:03:06,502 --> 05:03:09,304 district where you are for the 8891 05:03:09,304 --> 05:03:09,438 record 8892 05:03:09,438 --> 05:03:10,639 . 8893 05:03:10,639 --> 05:03:13,408 >> my name is paul short I 8894 05:03:13,408 --> 05:03:14,576 limit brentsville magisterial 8895 05:03:14,576 --> 05:03:16,976 district 42490 owls nest road 8896 05:03:20,982 --> 05:03:21,216 can I have a additional 8897 05:03:21,216 --> 05:03:23,118 minutes. 8898 05:03:23,118 --> 05:03:25,530 >> Chair Jefferson: what I will 8899 05:03:25,530 --> 05:03:27,550 do next is go to promote public 8900 05:03:27,550 --> 05:03:27,555 comment on that I was getting 8901 05:03:27,555 --> 05:03:29,258 additional 8902 05:03:29,258 --> 05:03:31,126 questions supervisor 8903 05:03:31,126 --> 05:03:32,427 bailey I will toss to for the 8904 05:03:32,427 --> 05:03:34,620 public hearing. 8905 05:03:34,620 --> 05:03:35,297 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I 8906 05:03:35,297 --> 05:03:35,631 have three people are we ready 8907 05:03:35,631 --> 05:03:37,320 for 8908 05:03:37,320 --> 05:03:39,320 our guests. 8909 05:03:40,970 --> 05:03:42,970 [Unclear audio] 8910 05:03:50,440 --> 05:03:52,444 >> good evening chair jefferson 8911 05:03:55,250 --> 05:03:56,551 and the board of supervisors 8912 05:03:56,551 --> 05:03:58,453 might name is jessica girl I'm 8913 05:03:58,453 --> 05:04:00,722 in the gainesville district I 8914 05:04:00,722 --> 05:04:02,658 would like five minutes with 8915 05:04:02,658 --> 05:04:05,658 the coalition to protect prince 8916 05:04:07,620 --> 05:04:09,630 william county on this one. 8917 05:04:09,630 --> 05:04:12,663 Stevie I'm sorry you have three 8918 05:04:15,837 --> 05:04:17,837 minutes. 8919 05:04:17,873 --> 05:04:18,940 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I 8920 05:04:18,940 --> 05:04:19,207 am sorry you have three 8921 05:04:19,207 --> 05:04:21,207 minutes. 8922 05:04:21,843 --> 05:04:23,378 >> Chair Jefferson: are you a 8923 05:04:23,378 --> 05:04:25,778 representative of the coalition 8924 05:04:26,515 --> 05:04:26,714 to 8925 05:04:26,714 --> 05:04:28,683 . 8926 05:04:28,683 --> 05:04:30,686 >> I'm in the board of the 8927 05:04:30,686 --> 05:04:31,530 coalition to protect prince 8928 05:04:31,530 --> 05:04:32,821 william county. 8929 05:04:32,821 --> 05:04:34,789 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 8930 05:04:34,789 --> 05:04:36,692 please continue with your five 8931 05:04:36,692 --> 05:04:38,226 minutes I didn't hear you. 8932 05:04:38,226 --> 05:04:39,827 >> I would like to ask you guys 8933 05:04:39,827 --> 05:04:41,897 to defer or deny this project I 8934 05:04:41,897 --> 05:04:44,897 was looking through the proper 8935 05:04:45,433 --> 05:04:48,433 statement for page 21 of 26 of 8936 05:05:08,556 --> 05:05:10,491 the strathmore proposal on 8937 05:05:10,491 --> 05:05:11,993 section I it says in the domain 8938 05:05:11,993 --> 05:05:13,494 in the event of the applicant 8939 05:05:13,494 --> 05:05:15,530 is not able to acquire 8940 05:05:15,530 --> 05:05:16,531 right-of-way required in order 8941 05:05:16,531 --> 05:05:18,633 to provide the road 8942 05:05:18,633 --> 05:05:19,668 improvements identified in 8943 05:05:19,668 --> 05:05:21,503 proffer conditions above for 8944 05:05:21,503 --> 05:05:23,503 clothes and associated 8945 05:05:23,504 --> 05:05:24,973 pedestrian facilities 8946 05:05:24,973 --> 05:05:26,641 identified in the comprehensive 8947 05:05:26,641 --> 05:05:28,509 plan including but not limited 8948 05:05:28,509 --> 05:05:30,110 to easement required for 8949 05:05:30,110 --> 05:05:31,512 utilities utilities locations 8950 05:05:31,512 --> 05:05:33,515 grading and storm water 8951 05:05:33,515 --> 05:05:34,549 management for the road 8952 05:05:34,549 --> 05:05:35,917 improvements and any other 8953 05:05:35,917 --> 05:05:36,718 property interests the 8954 05:05:36,718 --> 05:05:38,686 applicant shall request the 8955 05:05:38,686 --> 05:05:40,721 county to acquire the necessary 8956 05:05:40,721 --> 05:05:42,590 property interest by exercising 8957 05:05:42,590 --> 05:05:44,525 of its condemnation powers at 8958 05:05:44,525 --> 05:05:45,727 the applicant's expense. The 8959 05:05:45,727 --> 05:05:47,662 applicant request shall be in 8960 05:05:47,662 --> 05:05:49,564 riding and shall comply and be 8961 05:05:49,564 --> 05:05:51,650 in respect with the eminent 8962 05:05:51,650 --> 05:05:52,601 domain policy this sounds to me 8963 05:05:52,601 --> 05:05:54,535 like they have purchased a 8964 05:05:54,535 --> 05:05:55,703 piece of land they don't have 8965 05:05:55,703 --> 05:05:57,605 enough room to do what they 8966 05:05:57,605 --> 05:05:58,706 want to do they are going to 8967 05:05:58,706 --> 05:06:00,541 take more land of hebron 8968 05:06:00,541 --> 05:06:01,642 property I think is kind of 8969 05:06:01,642 --> 05:06:03,544 despicable to think that 8970 05:06:03,544 --> 05:06:07,144 anybody would vote in favor and 8971 05:06:10,685 --> 05:06:12,754 without and destroy established 8972 05:06:12,754 --> 05:06:14,755 labor to put in infrastructure 8973 05:06:14,755 --> 05:06:17,492 for a new housing department is 8974 05:06:17,492 --> 05:06:18,993 not very neighborly also I sent 8975 05:06:18,993 --> 05:06:21,993 everybody an email today I 8976 05:06:29,804 --> 05:06:30,972 would like to read hopefully I 8977 05:06:30,972 --> 05:06:32,941 will get through it welcome 8978 05:06:32,941 --> 05:06:34,843 supervisor stuart I really look 8979 05:06:34,843 --> 05:06:36,344 forward to having 8980 05:06:36,344 --> 05:06:37,945 representation in gainesville 8981 05:06:37,945 --> 05:06:39,981 again who is willing to listen 8982 05:06:39,981 --> 05:06:41,849 to the residence last night I 8983 05:06:41,849 --> 05:06:43,284 saw you at the small area plan 8984 05:06:43,284 --> 05:06:44,819 for vint hill I'm really 8985 05:06:44,819 --> 05:06:46,200 confused I feel the cats have 8986 05:06:46,200 --> 05:06:47,788 been let out of the barn if you 8987 05:06:47,788 --> 05:06:49,657 approve this project will not 8988 05:06:49,657 --> 05:06:51,659 be able to put them back in 8989 05:06:51,659 --> 05:06:52,660 what is the plan here? 8990 05:06:52,660 --> 05:06:54,128 Are you just getting community 8991 05:06:54,128 --> 05:06:55,797 outreach danny going to say 8992 05:06:55,797 --> 05:06:56,898 your opinion did not matter 8993 05:06:56,898 --> 05:06:58,800 there were a lot of people 8994 05:06:58,800 --> 05:07:01,800 there last night were worried 8995 05:07:02,636 --> 05:07:04,572 about their community I feel if 8996 05:07:04,572 --> 05:07:05,773 you do approve this plan 8997 05:07:05,773 --> 05:07:07,608 tonight you owe everybody an 8998 05:07:07,608 --> 05:07:09,510 email who attended last night 8999 05:07:09,510 --> 05:07:10,745 to say that you are sorry that 9000 05:07:10,745 --> 05:07:12,580 you wasted their time and that 9001 05:07:12,580 --> 05:07:15,580 their opinion really did not 9002 05:07:16,317 --> 05:07:17,584 matter in any case. In western 9003 05:07:17,584 --> 05:07:19,387 and of prince william county 9004 05:07:19,387 --> 05:07:22,387 have been talking about the 9005 05:07:25,459 --> 05:07:27,495 reinvestment I think this plan 9006 05:07:27,495 --> 05:07:28,796 needs to be implement citizens 9007 05:07:28,796 --> 05:07:30,632 possible design density housing 9008 05:07:30,632 --> 05:07:31,733 in these rural areas is 9009 05:07:31,733 --> 05:07:33,667 detrimental to the residents 9010 05:07:33,667 --> 05:07:36,437 and mourners who have invested 9011 05:07:36,437 --> 05:07:37,571 so much into their community 9012 05:07:37,571 --> 05:07:39,507 only to have it plowed over and 9013 05:07:39,507 --> 05:07:40,774 impacts their quality of life 9014 05:07:40,774 --> 05:07:43,511 that they have worked so hard 9015 05:07:43,511 --> 05:07:44,578 to develop some help this is 9016 05:07:44,578 --> 05:07:45,779 nothing fair especially if the 9017 05:07:45,779 --> 05:07:47,615 new development impacts things 9018 05:07:47,615 --> 05:07:49,517 like road schools and their 9019 05:07:49,517 --> 05:07:50,751 wells adding 2000 houses is 9020 05:07:50,751 --> 05:07:52,820 going to bring a lot of school 9021 05:07:52,820 --> 05:07:54,355 age children and how will that 9022 05:07:54,355 --> 05:07:57,955 affect the traffic in the area 9023 05:08:01,329 --> 05:08:03,330 as well as the schools in the 9024 05:08:03,330 --> 05:08:04,565 classroom especially since 9025 05:08:04,565 --> 05:08:07,334 multiple schools are slated to 9026 05:08:07,334 --> 05:08:08,336 be overcapacity right from the 9027 05:08:08,336 --> 05:08:11,936 same time to small area plan 9028 05:08:12,306 --> 05:08:13,541 would be due. Which would be 9029 05:08:13,541 --> 05:08:15,409 spending two more years trying 9030 05:08:15,409 --> 05:08:16,544 to figure out where he will 9031 05:08:16,544 --> 05:08:18,513 send the kids. Then I came 9032 05:08:18,513 --> 05:08:20,447 across two very interesting 9033 05:08:20,447 --> 05:08:21,582 pieces of information this week 9034 05:08:21,582 --> 05:08:23,450 one from dep with virginia 9035 05:08:23,450 --> 05:08:25,850 trout monitoring task force 9036 05:08:30,157 --> 05:08:32,159 they have expended the drought 9037 05:08:32,159 --> 05:08:34,161 advisory to 50 counties and 23 9038 05:08:34,161 --> 05:08:36,163 cities prince william county is 9039 05:08:36,163 --> 05:08:38,165 included in this all origin is 9040 05:08:38,165 --> 05:08:40,234 encouraged to protect water 9041 05:08:40,234 --> 05:08:41,302 supply by minimizing water use 9042 05:08:41,302 --> 05:08:43,170 and monitoring drought 9043 05:08:43,170 --> 05:08:45,172 conditions how is that water 9044 05:08:45,172 --> 05:08:46,373 study coming in prince william 9045 05:08:46,373 --> 05:08:48,242 county are you guys prepared to 9046 05:08:48,242 --> 05:08:51,745 pay for people's wells that are 9047 05:08:51,745 --> 05:08:52,947 affected by this? 9048 05:08:52,947 --> 05:08:54,948 Another piece of news cannot 9049 05:08:54,948 --> 05:08:57,348 from nbc washington according 9050 05:08:57,752 --> 05:08:58,920 to a report from the national 9051 05:08:58,920 --> 05:09:00,755 association of realtors 9052 05:09:00,755 --> 05:09:01,955 first-time homebuyers are 9053 05:09:01,955 --> 05:09:03,890 putting in average of 10% down 9054 05:09:03,890 --> 05:09:05,759 and most of them are getting 9055 05:09:05,759 --> 05:09:07,761 loans from family or friends 9056 05:09:07,761 --> 05:09:09,761 the average first-time 9057 05:09:09,764 --> 05:09:11,765 homebuyer is now four years old 9058 05:09:11,765 --> 05:09:13,767 all-time high the national 9059 05:09:13,767 --> 05:09:15,169 association of realtors says an 9060 05:09:15,169 --> 05:09:16,770 economist says you need 9061 05:09:16,770 --> 05:09:17,938 household income of about 9062 05:09:17,938 --> 05:09:19,773 $300,000 if you want to 9063 05:09:19,773 --> 05:09:20,975 purchase a single-family 9064 05:09:20,975 --> 05:09:22,776 detached home in northern 9065 05:09:22,776 --> 05:09:23,944 virginia. It seems to me that 9066 05:09:23,944 --> 05:09:25,879 times are changing and that 9067 05:09:25,879 --> 05:09:27,781 prince william county is again 9068 05:09:27,781 --> 05:09:28,882 behind the ball. Please defer 9069 05:09:28,882 --> 05:09:30,784 denied this project until 9070 05:09:30,784 --> 05:09:32,190 adequate proffers and or 9071 05:09:32,190 --> 05:09:33,190 decreased density are in place. 9072 05:09:33,190 --> 05:09:34,688 Thank you very much. 9073 05:09:34,688 --> 05:09:36,688 >> Chair Jefferson: 9074 05:09:36,790 --> 05:09:38,159 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 9075 05:09:38,159 --> 05:09:39,793 thank you MISS Growth. 9076 05:09:39,793 --> 05:09:40,610 >> the second speakers are 9077 05:09:40,610 --> 05:09:41,929 smacked. 9078 05:09:41,929 --> 05:09:43,196 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 9079 05:09:43,196 --> 05:09:45,596 MS. Carol please begin. 9080 05:09:47,468 --> 05:09:47,634 >> MS. Carol you can begin. 9081 05:09:47,634 --> 05:09:49,634 >>. 9082 05:09:52,673 --> 05:09:55,876 [Listing names] I would like to 9083 05:09:55,876 --> 05:09:58,276 request five minutes of. 9084 05:10:01,882 --> 05:10:03,750 [Listing names] I live in 9085 05:10:03,750 --> 05:10:04,952 principal as you all know 9086 05:10:04,952 --> 05:10:06,853 welcome supervisor stuart I 9087 05:10:06,853 --> 05:10:08,154 actually live along vint hill 9088 05:10:08,154 --> 05:10:12,354 road owls nest is my point of 9089 05:10:12,993 --> 05:10:17,193 access into the world how I get 9090 05:10:19,266 --> 05:10:21,266 around. 9091 05:10:21,267 --> 05:10:22,536 I traversed this area very 9092 05:10:22,536 --> 05:10:24,371 regularly. What I heard tonight 9093 05:10:24,371 --> 05:10:25,505 was a discussion of a lot of 9094 05:10:25,505 --> 05:10:27,905 things around about adele's 9095 05:10:31,778 --> 05:10:33,130 best fire station land for fire 9096 05:10:33,130 --> 05:10:34,948 station land for middle school 9097 05:10:34,948 --> 05:10:36,783 the curve on the vint hill road 9098 05:10:36,783 --> 05:10:37,951 and how that is going to be 9099 05:10:37,951 --> 05:10:38,852 addressed. 9100 05:10:38,852 --> 05:10:40,887 Let's be clear those are not 9101 05:10:40,887 --> 05:10:41,321 proffers associated with this 9102 05:10:41,321 --> 05:10:43,321 application. 9103 05:10:43,323 --> 05:10:44,591 I heard a lot of discussion of 9104 05:10:44,591 --> 05:10:46,991 proffers and mitigation and 9105 05:10:50,297 --> 05:10:51,498 what other projects are doing 9106 05:10:51,498 --> 05:10:53,466 my understanding is that you 9107 05:10:53,466 --> 05:10:55,569 all are not allowed to discuss 9108 05:10:55,569 --> 05:10:57,704 any proffers that commit board 9109 05:10:57,704 --> 05:10:58,772 to future vote I pulled the 9110 05:10:58,772 --> 05:11:01,772 zoning ordinance while I was 9111 05:11:11,451 --> 05:11:12,919 listening to all. It is pretty 9112 05:11:12,919 --> 05:11:14,454 clear is pretty explicit only 9113 05:11:14,454 --> 05:11:15,555 those written and graphic 9114 05:11:15,555 --> 05:11:16,622 materials that have been 9115 05:11:16,622 --> 05:11:18,459 referenced in a proper 9116 05:11:18,459 --> 05:11:19,659 statement MAY be displayed in 9117 05:11:19,659 --> 05:11:21,461 the public hearing before the 9118 05:11:21,461 --> 05:11:22,729 planning commission or the 9119 05:11:22,729 --> 05:11:25,465 board of county supervisors why 9120 05:11:25,465 --> 05:11:27,467 are we really discussing this 9121 05:11:27,467 --> 05:11:29,467 year we're discussing 9122 05:11:29,469 --> 05:11:31,469 strathmore a standalone 9123 05:11:33,840 --> 05:11:35,876 application we are discussing 9124 05:11:35,876 --> 05:11:37,878 strathmore's impacts on schools 9125 05:11:37,878 --> 05:11:39,120 strathmore's impacts on roads. 9126 05:11:39,120 --> 05:11:40,881 Strathmore's impact on our 9127 05:11:40,881 --> 05:11:42,282 natural resources like the 9128 05:11:42,282 --> 05:11:43,500 watershed like our fire 9129 05:11:43,500 --> 05:11:44,985 department our parks our 9130 05:11:44,985 --> 05:11:47,985 libraries and I appreciate what 9131 05:11:51,858 --> 05:11:53,793 the applicant has done with 9132 05:11:53,793 --> 05:11:55,261 their master plan. I want to 9133 05:11:55,261 --> 05:11:56,796 just the developer and the 9134 05:11:56,796 --> 05:11:58,331 master plan I was a little 9135 05:11:58,331 --> 05:12:00,433 confused again this was brought 9136 05:12:00,433 --> 05:12:01,802 up tonight. So I went in and 9137 05:12:01,802 --> 05:12:03,270 pulled it well and listen to 9138 05:12:03,270 --> 05:12:03,937 all speak it was submitted on 9139 05:12:03,937 --> 05:12:05,872 APRIL 22, 2025. 9140 05:12:05,872 --> 05:12:07,974 Over six months ago. Over six 9141 05:12:07,974 --> 05:12:09,842 months ago before the committee 9142 05:12:09,842 --> 05:12:11,912 meeting before the planning 9143 05:12:11,912 --> 05:12:14,312 commission hearings. Before the 9144 05:12:15,515 --> 05:12:16,683 small area plan kickoff. None 9145 05:12:16,683 --> 05:12:18,618 of four silver bell which the 9146 05:12:18,618 --> 05:12:20,620 applicant acknowledged was only 9147 05:12:20,620 --> 05:12:21,754 submitted about six weeks ago. 9148 05:12:21,754 --> 05:12:23,556 Silver bell is not even in 9149 05:12:23,556 --> 05:12:24,925 there in a comprehensive 9150 05:12:24,925 --> 05:12:26,726 manner. I'm a little confused 9151 05:12:26,726 --> 05:12:28,595 by this developer master plan 9152 05:12:28,595 --> 05:12:29,796 is now being held up as the 9153 05:12:29,796 --> 05:12:31,765 plan for the vint hill area. 9154 05:12:31,765 --> 05:12:33,666 In the vint hill quarter when 9155 05:12:33,666 --> 05:12:34,768 last night my family we raised 9156 05:12:34,768 --> 05:12:36,636 our schedule so my husband 9157 05:12:36,636 --> 05:12:41,436 could take the time to be at a 9158 05:12:46,812 --> 05:12:48,470 vint hill small area kickoff 9159 05:12:48,470 --> 05:12:50,160 meeting I thought that was the 9160 05:12:50,160 --> 05:12:51,851 plan I'm confused is this the 9161 05:12:51,851 --> 05:12:53,119 community driven process to 9162 05:12:53,119 --> 05:12:54,987 develop at this area or is this 9163 05:12:54,987 --> 05:12:56,856 the developer driven process 9164 05:12:56,856 --> 05:12:58,240 when I hear about this 9165 05:12:58,240 --> 05:12:59,926 developer master plan that 9166 05:12:59,926 --> 05:13:01,270 butler was never presented to 9167 05:13:01,270 --> 05:13:02,929 the community it was never 9168 05:13:02,929 --> 05:13:04,964 presented to the community was 9169 05:13:04,964 --> 05:13:06,650 there a committee meeting for 9170 05:13:06,650 --> 05:13:08,100 the developer master plan? 9171 05:13:08,100 --> 05:13:10,270 There was a community meeting 9172 05:13:10,270 --> 05:13:11,871 for strathmore there was a 9173 05:13:11,871 --> 05:13:13,720 committee meeting for stella 9174 05:13:13,720 --> 05:13:14,874 martin project and a committee 9175 05:13:14,874 --> 05:13:16,375 meeting for cheryl resource 9176 05:13:16,375 --> 05:13:17,977 probably I would say what about 9177 05:13:17,977 --> 05:13:19,879 the traffic on the owls nest 9178 05:13:19,879 --> 05:13:21,882 they said we not deal with owls 9179 05:13:21,882 --> 05:13:23,415 nest we are strathmore senegal 9180 05:13:23,415 --> 05:13:25,170 to save product he says we are 9181 05:13:25,170 --> 05:13:26,886 not dealing with owls nest we 9182 05:13:26,886 --> 05:13:28,320 are on the other side of the 9183 05:13:28,320 --> 05:13:30,560 road than I go to the spec says 9184 05:13:30,560 --> 05:13:32,424 we are that owls nest will not 9185 05:13:32,424 --> 05:13:34,260 bring the density the community 9186 05:13:34,260 --> 05:13:35,995 is not getting a fair answer 9187 05:13:35,995 --> 05:13:37,864 then I'm expected to sit here 9188 05:13:37,864 --> 05:13:39,899 and save the developer master 9189 05:13:39,899 --> 05:13:41,867 plan has it all figured out the 9190 05:13:41,867 --> 05:13:42,902 schools the road the fire 9191 05:13:42,902 --> 05:13:44,871 department all of it let's be 9192 05:13:44,871 --> 05:13:46,500 clear what is proffered from 9193 05:13:46,500 --> 05:13:47,907 strathmore is less than $1 9194 05:13:47,907 --> 05:13:48,975 million per schools it is less 9195 05:13:48,975 --> 05:13:50,877 then $700,000 for parks. 9196 05:13:50,877 --> 05:13:51,110 It is way less the matt forte 9197 05:13:51,110 --> 05:13:53,110 higher. 9198 05:13:56,150 --> 05:13:57,883 I'm a little confused if we are 9199 05:13:57,883 --> 05:13:59,886 at a school board registering 9200 05:13:59,886 --> 05:14:01,200 meeting or a board of county 9201 05:14:01,200 --> 05:14:02,889 supervisors hearing because 9202 05:14:02,889 --> 05:14:04,323 when you're sean patrick 9203 05:14:04,323 --> 05:14:05,892 telling me for all these kids 9204 05:14:05,892 --> 05:14:07,894 in the area going to go to 9205 05:14:07,894 --> 05:14:09,161 school I have concerns because 9206 05:14:09,161 --> 05:14:11,970 I did not vote for sean patrick 9207 05:14:11,970 --> 05:14:12,898 my ballot for school board or 9208 05:14:12,898 --> 05:14:14,934 board of county supervisors 9209 05:14:14,934 --> 05:14:16,902 county chair I do appreciate 9210 05:14:16,902 --> 05:14:18,137 supervisor stuart bring up the 9211 05:14:18,137 --> 05:14:20,390 fatality and owls nest I was at 9212 05:14:20,390 --> 05:14:22,410 that fatality within 10 minutes 9213 05:14:22,410 --> 05:14:23,142 of happening with my kids in 9214 05:14:23,142 --> 05:14:25,911 the car it was horrific. 9215 05:14:25,911 --> 05:14:28,911 It was because of construction 9216 05:14:33,850 --> 05:14:35,540 supervisor gordy is correct but 9217 05:14:35,540 --> 05:14:36,189 there have been other accidents 9218 05:14:36,189 --> 05:14:38,124 right in front of the house 9219 05:14:38,124 --> 05:14:40,125 multiple accidents people being 9220 05:14:40,125 --> 05:14:42,270 branded motorcycles a few weeks 9221 05:14:42,270 --> 05:14:43,529 later our table and 9222 05:14:43,529 --> 05:14:45,198 internetworking out there was 9223 05:14:45,198 --> 05:14:47,330 an accident the cut the cable 9224 05:14:47,330 --> 05:14:48,134 it is not just because of one 9225 05:14:48,134 --> 05:14:50,360 person speeding or when 9226 05:14:50,360 --> 05:14:52,380 construction there is a real 9227 05:14:52,380 --> 05:14:53,272 problem in this area and adding 9228 05:14:53,272 --> 05:14:55,241 density while I'm supportive of 9229 05:14:55,241 --> 05:14:57,641 the roundabout and supportive 9230 05:14:58,430 --> 05:15:00,450 of traffic improvements but 9231 05:15:00,450 --> 05:15:02,480 adding density and not properly 9232 05:15:02,480 --> 05:15:03,216 planning that is not a partisan 9233 05:15:03,216 --> 05:15:05,170 issue you do not have the 9234 05:15:05,170 --> 05:15:06,252 another set of any aisle to 9235 05:15:06,252 --> 05:15:08,220 understand that poor planning 9236 05:15:08,220 --> 05:15:10,222 is poor planning and the people 9237 05:15:10,222 --> 05:15:12,225 that suffer are the people who 9238 05:15:12,225 --> 05:15:13,893 live in the area. I appreciate 9239 05:15:13,893 --> 05:15:16,280 that MR. Patrick sent out 9240 05:15:16,280 --> 05:15:17,229 mailers people within a 1 mile 9241 05:15:17,229 --> 05:15:19,298 radius when I see that he is 9242 05:15:19,298 --> 05:15:21,167 now talking about mitigation 9243 05:15:21,167 --> 05:15:23,690 along the road along a 4 mile 9244 05:15:23,690 --> 05:15:24,203 span of road brought all those 9245 05:15:24,203 --> 05:15:24,503 people on that road century 9246 05:15:24,503 --> 05:15:26,720 mailers MR. 9247 05:15:26,720 --> 05:15:27,239 Patrick I don't 9248 05:15:27,239 --> 05:15:29,141 think so I did not get one. 9249 05:15:29,141 --> 05:15:30,342 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 9250 05:15:30,342 --> 05:15:32,244 MS. Carol next speaker please. 9251 05:15:32,244 --> 05:15:34,213 >> there are no more speakers. 9252 05:15:34,213 --> 05:15:36,315 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 9253 05:15:36,315 --> 05:15:37,250 that includes the speakers for 9254 05:15:37,250 --> 05:15:39,152 the evening. 9255 05:15:39,152 --> 05:15:41,860 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 9256 05:15:41,860 --> 05:15:42,587 so very much. I'm going to go 9257 05:15:42,587 --> 05:15:44,223 ahead unless there is anybody 9258 05:15:44,223 --> 05:15:46,910 else wants to speak if you have 9259 05:15:46,910 --> 05:15:47,626 not spoken I don't see anybody 9260 05:15:47,626 --> 05:15:49,195 I will go ahead and close the 9261 05:15:49,195 --> 05:15:51,970 public hearing for agenda item 9262 05:15:51,970 --> 05:15:51,697 number 13 ai would like to have 9263 05:15:51,697 --> 05:15:53,232 either the 9264 05:15:53,232 --> 05:15:55,201 applicant if there's 9265 05:15:55,201 --> 05:15:56,369 anything you want to respond to 9266 05:15:56,369 --> 05:15:57,269 I've closed the public hearing 9267 05:15:57,269 --> 05:15:59,204 did you have? 9268 05:15:59,204 --> 05:16:01,106 I'm so sorry how this is with 9269 05:16:01,106 --> 05:16:02,341 the public hearing everyone 9270 05:16:02,341 --> 05:16:04,276 gets a chance to speak once. 9271 05:16:04,276 --> 05:16:07,876 Unless you are with an approved 9272 05:16:08,814 --> 05:16:10,816 hoa one c3 then you get five 9273 05:16:10,816 --> 05:16:13,216 minutes otherwise everybody is 9274 05:16:17,957 --> 05:16:19,125 limited to three minutes. 9275 05:16:19,125 --> 05:16:21,920 It is so we can move the 9276 05:16:21,920 --> 05:16:22,994 meeting along. What I'm doing 9277 05:16:22,994 --> 05:16:24,997 and allowing the applicant to 9278 05:16:24,997 --> 05:16:26,299 come back up and respond to any 9279 05:16:26,299 --> 05:16:28,167 questions or anything that he 9280 05:16:28,167 --> 05:16:30,360 or she is hard for it does how 9281 05:16:30,360 --> 05:16:31,203 the rules work. I'm sorry but I 9282 05:16:31,203 --> 05:16:33,138 do appreciate you for coming 9283 05:16:33,138 --> 05:16:34,206 out today MR. Patrick the guy 9284 05:16:34,206 --> 05:16:36,606 with two last names. 9285 05:16:39,745 --> 05:16:41,713 >> Applicant: thank you very 9286 05:16:41,713 --> 05:16:43,682 much for the opportunity? 9287 05:16:43,682 --> 05:16:45,517 And comment on things that were 9288 05:16:45,517 --> 05:16:47,520 raised I will go to these 9289 05:16:47,520 --> 05:16:49,521 quickly as they were fred tried 9290 05:16:49,521 --> 05:16:50,990 to give you some additional 9291 05:16:50,990 --> 05:16:52,491 perspective on some of these 9292 05:16:52,491 --> 05:16:53,692 there was a comment about the 9293 05:16:53,692 --> 05:16:55,661 small area plan and the timing 9294 05:16:55,661 --> 05:16:57,596 of the small area plan while it 9295 05:16:57,596 --> 05:16:59,498 is not ideal for small area 9296 05:16:59,498 --> 05:17:01,499 plan was conceptualized and 9297 05:17:01,499 --> 05:17:03,899 initiated after these rezoning 9298 05:17:04,102 --> 05:17:07,102 applications were filed it is 9299 05:17:08,174 --> 05:17:10,420 not incongruous the small area 9300 05:17:10,420 --> 05:17:11,977 plan will continue to have a 9301 05:17:11,977 --> 05:17:13,912 very important purpose. In 9302 05:17:13,912 --> 05:17:16,312 looking at the remaining 9303 05:17:16,848 --> 05:17:18,850 properties and for the 9304 05:17:18,850 --> 05:17:20,419 different infrastructure 9305 05:17:20,419 --> 05:17:21,954 decisions that are going to be 9306 05:17:21,954 --> 05:17:24,790 made for this area in the 9307 05:17:24,790 --> 05:17:26,580 future. 9308 05:17:26,580 --> 05:17:27,926 As the planning director said 9309 05:17:27,926 --> 05:17:31,526 small area plan will cover a 9310 05:17:33,665 --> 05:17:34,866 much larger area as well. 9311 05:17:34,866 --> 05:17:36,735 If you look at the map I don't 9312 05:17:36,735 --> 05:17:37,903 have it on the screen now if 9313 05:17:37,903 --> 05:17:39,671 you look at the map and you 9314 05:17:39,671 --> 05:17:40,872 look at the seven rezoning 9315 05:17:40,872 --> 05:17:42,707 applications that are being 9316 05:17:42,707 --> 05:17:44,710 discussed this evening in the 9317 05:17:44,710 --> 05:17:47,746 context of our one our 155 acre 9318 05:17:47,746 --> 05:17:50,146 rezoning application there is 9319 05:17:50,782 --> 05:17:52,217 quite a bit of land left and 9320 05:17:52,217 --> 05:17:54,753 there would be we've had a 9321 05:17:54,753 --> 05:17:55,820 little operation because of the 9322 05:17:55,820 --> 05:17:57,756 three developers involved in 9323 05:17:57,756 --> 05:17:58,823 this article or case the small 9324 05:17:58,823 --> 05:18:01,823 area plan will assure the 9325 05:18:03,562 --> 05:18:04,663 continued cooperation and 9326 05:18:04,663 --> 05:18:06,532 consistency of future 9327 05:18:06,532 --> 05:18:07,699 applications that you would 9328 05:18:07,699 --> 05:18:09,535 receive in this area. With 9329 05:18:09,535 --> 05:18:10,769 respect to the amount of 9330 05:18:10,769 --> 05:18:12,737 traffic on vint hill road vint 9331 05:18:12,737 --> 05:18:14,505 hill road after the development 9332 05:18:14,505 --> 05:18:16,541 after the traffic impact 9333 05:18:16,541 --> 05:18:17,942 analysis was completed which 9334 05:18:17,942 --> 05:18:19,578 added traffic from this 9335 05:18:19,578 --> 05:18:20,712 proposal has about a 30% pass 9336 05:18:20,712 --> 05:18:24,312 through traffic on it that is 9337 05:18:35,930 --> 05:18:36,227 traffic that is coming from 9338 05:18:36,227 --> 05:18:38,129 vulture county or other 9339 05:18:38,129 --> 05:18:39,464 pointing going into prince 9340 05:18:39,464 --> 05:18:40,331 william county and 9341 05:18:40,331 --> 05:18:42,300 back-and-forth that is while we 9342 05:18:42,300 --> 05:18:44,303 have a state highway department 9343 05:18:44,303 --> 05:18:47,105 because roads are not traveled 9344 05:18:47,105 --> 05:18:48,105 just within the county people 9345 05:18:48,105 --> 05:18:50,141 go from one county to the next 9346 05:18:50,141 --> 05:18:51,643 we have to recognize the fact 9347 05:18:51,643 --> 05:18:53,278 that traffic is going to grow 9348 05:18:53,278 --> 05:18:56,114 on vint hill road as adjoining 9349 05:18:56,114 --> 05:18:57,282 counties grow and as implement 9350 05:18:57,282 --> 05:18:59,117 opportunities grown prince 9351 05:18:59,117 --> 05:19:00,652 william county but whatever 9352 05:19:00,652 --> 05:19:02,254 residential not the traffic and 9353 05:19:02,254 --> 05:19:04,122 the road is going to be widened 9354 05:19:04,122 --> 05:19:06,124 and it is going to need 9355 05:19:06,124 --> 05:19:07,125 additional improvement in fact 9356 05:19:07,125 --> 05:19:09,127 it's already in our 9357 05:19:09,127 --> 05:19:11,129 comprehensive plan for some 9358 05:19:11,129 --> 05:19:13,980 substantial improvement as MR. 9359 05:19:13,980 --> 05:19:14,132 Paolo explained when he was 9360 05:19:14,132 --> 05:19:15,634 standing there. 9361 05:19:15,634 --> 05:19:17,235 Traffic impact analysis also 9362 05:19:17,235 --> 05:19:19,136 want to explain is a very 9363 05:19:19,136 --> 05:19:20,638 complicated and sophisticated 9364 05:19:20,638 --> 05:19:23,380 computer modeling process that 9365 05:19:23,141 --> 05:19:24,142 is completed by professionals 9366 05:19:24,142 --> 05:19:25,410 this is not a group of 9367 05:19:25,410 --> 05:19:27,345 developers going out and saying 9368 05:19:27,345 --> 05:19:29,247 we think it is going to be this 9369 05:19:29,247 --> 05:19:31,182 many trips are that many trips 9370 05:19:31,182 --> 05:19:33,151 there are companies that make a 9371 05:19:33,151 --> 05:19:35,153 great deal of effort and apply 9372 05:19:35,153 --> 05:19:36,321 their best professional 9373 05:19:36,321 --> 05:19:39,157 knowledge as well as I said 9374 05:19:39,157 --> 05:19:40,392 before automated techniques for 9375 05:19:40,392 --> 05:19:41,159 determining how traffic might 9376 05:19:41,159 --> 05:19:42,160 grow. 9377 05:19:42,160 --> 05:19:44,129 His is a very 9378 05:19:44,129 --> 05:19:45,230 substantial effort that is been 9379 05:19:45,230 --> 05:19:47,132 undertaken not only by 9380 05:19:47,132 --> 05:19:49,167 strathmore for their particular 9381 05:19:49,167 --> 05:19:49,734 project which did not show any 9382 05:19:49,734 --> 05:19:51,502 negative impact on traffic 9383 05:19:51,502 --> 05:19:52,637 capacity on vint hill road but 9384 05:19:52,637 --> 05:19:54,639 also with the collective 9385 05:19:54,639 --> 05:19:57,509 efforts of the seven developers 9386 05:19:57,509 --> 05:19:59,511 who are part of the vint hill 9387 05:19:59,511 --> 05:20:00,979 application. There was little 9388 05:20:00,979 --> 05:20:03,515 discussion about the white oak 9389 05:20:03,515 --> 05:20:04,582 tree and uncertain see about 9390 05:20:04,582 --> 05:20:06,551 the white tree the rest of the 9391 05:20:06,551 --> 05:20:08,185 property line that is more on 9392 05:20:08,185 --> 05:20:09,387 the adjoining property line 9393 05:20:09,387 --> 05:20:11,289 that it is on the brookville 9394 05:20:11,289 --> 05:20:12,457 property it would make it clear 9395 05:20:12,457 --> 05:20:14,325 the field has done everything 9396 05:20:14,325 --> 05:20:16,194 it can on its property and it 9397 05:20:16,194 --> 05:20:18,196 is even offered with the 9398 05:20:18,196 --> 05:20:19,698 applicant with the neighbors 9399 05:20:19,698 --> 05:20:21,332 permission to go on to their 9400 05:20:21,332 --> 05:20:23,201 property and apply the chemist 9401 05:20:23,201 --> 05:20:24,736 that which is a chemical that 9402 05:20:24,736 --> 05:20:26,637 is very effective in preserving 9403 05:20:26,637 --> 05:20:27,739 trees that are being disturbed 9404 05:20:27,739 --> 05:20:29,641 or their roots are being 9405 05:20:29,641 --> 05:20:30,808 disturbed to try to slow the 9406 05:20:30,808 --> 05:20:33,808 growth during a couple of 9407 05:20:34,245 --> 05:20:35,413 seasons after the construction 9408 05:20:35,413 --> 05:20:38,149 occurs. So if there is lesser 9409 05:20:38,149 --> 05:20:39,317 impact on the strathmore side 9410 05:20:39,317 --> 05:20:40,751 it was clearly said they have 9411 05:20:40,751 --> 05:20:42,720 done what they can and they 9412 05:20:42,720 --> 05:20:44,756 have complied with the design 9413 05:20:44,756 --> 05:20:46,290 and construction standards 9414 05:20:46,290 --> 05:20:48,690 requirements for critical root 9415 05:20:53,931 --> 05:20:55,931 zone protection. 9416 05:20:55,934 --> 05:20:57,101 There is 46% open space on this 9417 05:20:57,101 --> 05:20:58,937 property I think that got 9418 05:20:58,937 --> 05:21:00,105 overlooked as we were going 9419 05:21:00,105 --> 05:21:01,940 through some of the comments. 9420 05:21:01,940 --> 05:21:03,941 That is a very significant 9421 05:21:03,941 --> 05:21:05,109 amount of open space on the 9422 05:21:05,109 --> 05:21:06,944 development of the size and 9423 05:21:06,944 --> 05:21:10,544 part of the reason that is 9424 05:21:12,750 --> 05:21:14,318 possible is your smaller lots 9425 05:21:14,318 --> 05:21:15,987 we talked for years about what 9426 05:21:15,987 --> 05:21:17,922 we need to cluster development 9427 05:21:17,922 --> 05:21:19,757 to preserve our natural 9428 05:21:19,757 --> 05:21:21,757 resources and preserve 9429 05:21:21,759 --> 05:21:23,270 environmental sensitive areas 9430 05:21:23,270 --> 05:21:24,862 like wetlands that's exactly 9431 05:21:24,862 --> 05:21:26,300 what is developers doing that 9432 05:21:26,300 --> 05:21:27,932 is why we are 40% 46% open 9433 05:21:27,932 --> 05:21:29,900 space is because those wetlands 9434 05:21:29,900 --> 05:21:31,769 are being protected the design 9435 05:21:31,769 --> 05:21:33,370 is sensitive to the 9436 05:21:33,370 --> 05:21:34,939 environmental sensitivity of 9437 05:21:34,939 --> 05:21:36,939 the particular property. 9438 05:21:36,941 --> 05:21:40,541 a comment was made about the 9439 05:21:41,579 --> 05:21:43,481 eminent domain proffer is in 9440 05:21:43,481 --> 05:21:44,649 the proper conditions want you 9441 05:21:44,649 --> 05:21:46,484 to note that as of property 9442 05:21:46,484 --> 05:21:47,952 condition the county has been 9443 05:21:47,952 --> 05:21:49,620 accepting for 35 years that 9444 05:21:49,620 --> 05:21:51,588 came up a really fun time ago 9445 05:21:51,588 --> 05:21:52,723 it is the result of a need that 9446 05:21:52,723 --> 05:21:54,725 was recognized by the county 9447 05:21:54,725 --> 05:21:56,627 and the county attorney's 9448 05:21:56,627 --> 05:22:00,227 office up to crafted that many 9449 05:22:02,900 --> 05:22:05,300 years ago that was necessary 9450 05:22:05,300 --> 05:22:06,937 because occasionally you need 9451 05:22:06,937 --> 05:22:08,138 to get a sliver of land from 9452 05:22:08,138 --> 05:22:10,700 the property next door you need 9453 05:22:10,700 --> 05:22:11,942 to get an easement for the 9454 05:22:11,942 --> 05:22:13,770 storm water pipe that needs to 9455 05:22:13,770 --> 05:22:15,790 go under the road a private 9456 05:22:15,790 --> 05:22:16,981 property owner cannot get those 9457 05:22:16,981 --> 05:22:18,616 things on their own. That is 9458 05:22:18,616 --> 05:22:20,618 why they look to the government 9459 05:22:20,618 --> 05:22:22,119 to help them with that is not 9460 05:22:22,119 --> 05:22:23,754 stealing anyone's property is 9461 05:22:23,754 --> 05:22:27,954 being done on the basis of the 9462 05:22:29,494 --> 05:22:31,395 greater good consistent with 9463 05:22:31,395 --> 05:22:33,364 the county's authority to make 9464 05:22:33,364 --> 05:22:35,232 decisions for the greater good 9465 05:22:35,232 --> 05:22:36,234 and to provide for the public 9466 05:22:36,234 --> 05:22:37,468 safety and public 9467 05:22:37,468 --> 05:22:38,369 infrastructure is necessary to 9468 05:22:38,369 --> 05:22:40,237 serve us all. 9469 05:22:40,237 --> 05:22:41,472 The fact that the average 9470 05:22:41,472 --> 05:22:43,307 first-time buyer was reported 9471 05:22:43,307 --> 05:22:45,376 to be 40 years old that is 9472 05:22:45,376 --> 05:22:47,344 pointing directly to the issues 9473 05:22:47,344 --> 05:22:48,679 that are mentioned at the very 9474 05:22:48,679 --> 05:22:50,414 beginning that we have a 9475 05:22:50,414 --> 05:22:52,382 housing crisis in this country 9476 05:22:52,382 --> 05:22:54,284 housing crisis is the direct 9477 05:22:54,284 --> 05:22:55,786 result of people opposing 9478 05:22:55,786 --> 05:22:56,853 housing wherever it might go. 9479 05:22:56,853 --> 05:22:58,822 I can tell you that every 9480 05:22:58,822 --> 05:23:00,324 application that we process 9481 05:23:00,324 --> 05:23:02,159 I've been doing it for a long 9482 05:23:02,159 --> 05:23:04,270 time there are people who are 9483 05:23:04,270 --> 05:23:07,627 opposed to the housing on the 9484 05:23:09,400 --> 05:23:11,235 property next door every one 9485 05:23:11,235 --> 05:23:12,470 agrees we need more for the 9486 05:23:12,470 --> 05:23:14,372 housing everybody joints their 9487 05:23:14,372 --> 05:23:16,240 own children to be able to buy 9488 05:23:16,240 --> 05:23:17,441 homes and to have the 9489 05:23:17,441 --> 05:23:19,309 opportunity that they had to 9490 05:23:19,309 --> 05:23:21,211 gain the wealth through the 9491 05:23:21,211 --> 05:23:22,446 purchase of a home when it's in 9492 05:23:22,446 --> 05:23:22,679 their neighborhood they don't 9493 05:23:22,679 --> 05:23:24,679 want it. 9494 05:23:26,783 --> 05:23:27,951 Hat type of approach 9495 05:23:27,951 --> 05:23:30,855 and attitude is making it 9496 05:23:30,855 --> 05:23:32,856 extremely difficult for you as 9497 05:23:32,856 --> 05:23:34,892 a governing body to make sure 9498 05:23:34,892 --> 05:23:37,892 that everybody has housing and 9499 05:23:38,262 --> 05:23:39,797 has opportunity to buy housing 9500 05:23:39,797 --> 05:23:41,980 in the county so you can there 9501 05:23:41,980 --> 05:23:44,980 is a direct correlation the 9502 05:23:47,804 --> 05:23:49,673 availability of housing to the 9503 05:23:49,673 --> 05:23:50,941 employment opportunities and 9504 05:23:50,941 --> 05:23:52,810 tax base in the county. If you 9505 05:23:52,810 --> 05:23:55,210 have any additional questions 9506 05:23:55,913 --> 05:23:57,914 if there's anything you want me 9507 05:23:57,914 --> 05:23:59,816 to expound upon happy to try to 9508 05:23:59,816 --> 05:24:00,984 do that hope this evening you 9509 05:24:00,984 --> 05:24:02,819 will be able to take action on 9510 05:24:02,819 --> 05:24:04,822 this case which is been in it 9511 05:24:04,822 --> 05:24:05,222 since FEBRUARY 2023 not APRIL 9512 05:24:05,222 --> 05:24:06,230 but since 9513 05:24:06,230 --> 05:24:07,892 FEBRUARY 2023. 9514 05:24:07,892 --> 05:24:09,760 >> Chair Jefferson: all right 9515 05:24:09,760 --> 05:24:12,262 thank you I don't see anybody 9516 05:24:12,262 --> 05:24:14,264 amadeus jumping thank you much 9517 05:24:14,264 --> 05:24:16,166 for the clarification I don't 9518 05:24:16,166 --> 05:24:19,766 know if staff has anything who 9519 05:24:25,976 --> 05:24:26,143 has a good 9520 05:24:26,143 --> 05:24:28,111 . 9521 05:24:28,111 --> 05:24:29,313 >> Tom Gordy: thank you to the 9522 05:24:29,313 --> 05:24:31,215 folks that came out and spoke 9523 05:24:31,215 --> 05:24:32,616 tonight thank you for again for 9524 05:24:32,616 --> 05:24:36,816 all the work is done by our 9525 05:24:37,654 --> 05:24:38,822 staff to help us get a better 9526 05:24:38,822 --> 05:24:40,324 approach a smarter approach 9527 05:24:40,324 --> 05:24:42,326 more holistic approach to try 9528 05:24:42,326 --> 05:24:44,161 to be thousand needs of this 9529 05:24:44,161 --> 05:24:46,561 community in prince william 9530 05:24:48,732 --> 05:24:51,732 county while it is definitely 9531 05:24:54,537 --> 05:24:56,506 different my hope is that we 9532 05:24:56,506 --> 05:24:57,775 get better development as a 9533 05:24:57,775 --> 05:24:58,909 result of it MADAM Chair I move 9534 05:24:58,909 --> 05:24:59,800 to approve item 13 a 9535 05:24:59,800 --> 05:25:00,210 . 9536 05:25:00,210 --> 05:25:03,210 >> Kenny Boddye: I second the 9537 05:25:04,915 --> 05:25:05,480 motion 9538 05:25:05,480 --> 05:25:07,480 . 9539 05:25:07,117 --> 05:25:08,285 >> Chair Jefferson: it's been 9540 05:25:08,285 --> 05:25:08,986 probably moved and seconded in 9541 05:25:08,986 --> 05:25:09,353 the 9542 05:25:09,353 --> 05:25:11,154 discussion. 9543 05:25:11,154 --> 05:25:13,157 >> Kenny Boddye: I will be 9544 05:25:13,157 --> 05:25:16,757 quick on this one person wanted 9545 05:25:18,495 --> 05:25:20,430 to thank supervisor gordy for 9546 05:25:20,430 --> 05:25:21,965 his vision on this note as you 9547 05:25:21,965 --> 05:25:24,434 said before you pump the brakes 9548 05:25:24,434 --> 05:25:25,435 on this a lot not really got 9549 05:25:25,435 --> 05:25:26,937 into this alongside this 9550 05:25:26,937 --> 05:25:28,538 applicant and build applicant 9551 05:25:28,538 --> 05:25:30,473 we are here to talk about this 9552 05:25:30,473 --> 05:25:31,675 product and will stay there 9553 05:25:31,675 --> 05:25:33,743 what this product hundred and 9554 05:25:33,743 --> 05:25:35,645 68 presidential dwelling units 9555 05:25:35,645 --> 05:25:37,481 17 affordable units $840,000 9556 05:25:37,481 --> 05:25:38,582 goes to the school of 9557 05:25:38,582 --> 05:25:40,483 compliments on your mind 9558 05:25:40,483 --> 05:25:42,483 sections planning commission 9559 05:25:42,653 --> 05:25:44,654 and staff recommended approval 9560 05:25:44,654 --> 05:25:46,489 for rezoning is itself a single 9561 05:25:46,489 --> 05:25:49,489 gas on the comprehensive plan 9562 05:25:53,864 --> 05:25:55,766 as staff reported out we see 9563 05:25:55,766 --> 05:25:56,833 this as an opportunity to do 9564 05:25:56,833 --> 05:25:58,100 things differently as 9565 05:25:58,100 --> 05:26:00,770 supervisor gordy said also in 9566 05:26:00,770 --> 05:26:02,772 the context I appreciate scott 9567 05:26:02,772 --> 05:26:04,274 myers for calmness and the 9568 05:26:04,274 --> 05:26:05,975 compensation we had along the 9569 05:26:05,975 --> 05:26:07,877 way context matters again this 9570 05:26:07,877 --> 05:26:09,779 is not some far-flung court 9571 05:26:09,779 --> 05:26:13,379 over rural areas this is next 9572 05:26:19,422 --> 05:26:20,957 to a planned residential 9573 05:26:20,957 --> 05:26:22,559 community at one point was also 9574 05:26:22,559 --> 05:26:24,494 a form that somebody at some 9575 05:26:24,494 --> 05:26:26,430 point did not want to happen we 9576 05:26:26,430 --> 05:26:27,965 need to make sure that we have 9577 05:26:27,965 --> 05:26:29,565 that in context and continue to 9578 05:26:29,565 --> 05:26:31,434 look at this project and other 9579 05:26:31,434 --> 05:26:33,436 projects as well I want to 9580 05:26:33,436 --> 05:26:34,604 highlight the almost 50% open 9581 05:26:34,604 --> 05:26:36,573 space that is been preserved 9582 05:26:36,573 --> 05:26:38,474 here that is important because 9583 05:26:38,474 --> 05:26:39,843 again as we look at context as 9584 05:26:39,843 --> 05:26:41,611 we shift away from more 9585 05:26:41,611 --> 05:26:43,446 developed areas in the suburbia 9586 05:26:43,446 --> 05:26:44,647 proper that kind of 9587 05:26:44,647 --> 05:26:46,650 preservation open space helps 9588 05:26:46,650 --> 05:26:48,584 to create the context of us see 9589 05:26:48,584 --> 05:26:50,486 a more gradual transition to a 9590 05:26:50,486 --> 05:26:52,210 more rural area both south 9591 05:26:52,210 --> 05:26:53,623 across vint hill road as we go 9592 05:26:53,623 --> 05:26:55,492 west with the potter county 9593 05:26:55,492 --> 05:26:57,494 line I think that's important 9594 05:26:57,494 --> 05:26:58,495 point ultimately as was said by 9595 05:26:58,495 --> 05:27:00,463 some of the speakers but by 9596 05:27:00,463 --> 05:27:01,998 supervisor gordy and by the 9597 05:27:01,998 --> 05:27:03,566 applicant we have a shortage of 9598 05:27:03,566 --> 05:27:07,166 housing in this region in this 9599 05:27:07,670 --> 05:27:08,838 county you cannot get at that 9600 05:27:08,838 --> 05:27:10,673 housing affordability we cannot 9601 05:27:10,673 --> 05:27:11,941 stabilize housing prices 9602 05:27:11,941 --> 05:27:13,709 midcounty if we don't approve 9603 05:27:13,709 --> 05:27:14,844 more housing for us it's a 9604 05:27:14,844 --> 05:27:18,444 simple as that. But I do 9605 05:27:19,950 --> 05:27:21,984 appreciate about this project 9606 05:27:21,984 --> 05:27:23,953 they are looking at a continuum 9607 05:27:23,953 --> 05:27:25,822 of housing types not just 9608 05:27:25,822 --> 05:27:27,570 having one cookie-cutter type 9609 05:27:27,570 --> 05:27:28,991 that is over the entire thing 9610 05:27:28,991 --> 05:27:31,861 like we see with other housing 9611 05:27:31,861 --> 05:27:32,996 in presidential development I 9612 05:27:32,996 --> 05:27:34,864 wanted to highlight and say 9613 05:27:34,864 --> 05:27:36,332 that both MS. Context of this 9614 05:27:36,332 --> 05:27:37,967 project but in the greater 9615 05:27:37,967 --> 05:27:39,902 context of what is coming after 9616 05:27:39,902 --> 05:27:41,103 that having a diversity of 9617 05:27:41,103 --> 05:27:43,600 housing is out we are able to 9618 05:27:43,600 --> 05:27:44,740 provide an opportunity several 9619 05:27:44,740 --> 05:27:46,776 people have not only a place to 9620 05:27:46,776 --> 05:27:47,944 live but homeownership which is 9621 05:27:47,944 --> 05:27:49,712 a way to start generating 9622 05:27:49,712 --> 05:27:50,980 wealth and build a social 9623 05:27:50,980 --> 05:27:52,480 ladder to climb up in the world 9624 05:27:52,480 --> 05:27:52,849 we cannot get it that 9625 05:27:52,849 --> 05:27:54,718 if we 9626 05:27:54,718 --> 05:27:56,719 don't approve and build more 9627 05:27:56,719 --> 05:27:58,220 housing in responsible smarts 9628 05:27:58,220 --> 05:27:59,722 ways like this one I support 9629 05:27:59,722 --> 05:28:00,422 just thank you manager. 9630 05:28:00,422 --> 05:28:01,724 > 9631 05:28:01,724 --> 05:28:03,727 Yesli Vega: thank you to the 9632 05:28:03,727 --> 05:28:04,927 residence of the brentsville 9633 05:28:04,927 --> 05:28:07,927 district document to speak I 9634 05:28:18,608 --> 05:28:20,510 think you to the county staff 9635 05:28:20,510 --> 05:28:22,511 thank you to the applicant as 9636 05:28:22,511 --> 05:28:24,130 well I know supervisor gordy 9637 05:28:24,130 --> 05:28:25,748 you have put in a lot of time 9638 05:28:25,748 --> 05:28:27,683 and effort in this project with 9639 05:28:27,683 --> 05:28:30,520 that being said I do recognize 9640 05:28:30,520 --> 05:28:31,654 the county has developed a 9641 05:28:31,654 --> 05:28:33,556 document from 1990 which 9642 05:28:33,556 --> 05:28:34,724 predates the constitutional 9643 05:28:34,724 --> 05:28:36,593 amendment that was adopted in 9644 05:28:36,593 --> 05:28:38,270 2012 I will read that for 9645 05:28:38,270 --> 05:28:39,596 awareness it says taking of 9646 05:28:39,596 --> 05:28:40,796 private property is not for 9647 05:28:40,796 --> 05:28:42,731 public use if the primary use 9648 05:28:42,731 --> 05:28:44,600 is for private gain private 9649 05:28:44,600 --> 05:28:46,350 benefit increasing jobs 9650 05:28:46,350 --> 05:28:47,603 increasing tax revenue or 9651 05:28:47,603 --> 05:28:48,938 economic to vomit what we've 9652 05:28:48,938 --> 05:28:50,706 established your tonight is 9653 05:28:50,706 --> 05:28:52,608 simple and very clear this road 9654 05:28:52,608 --> 05:28:54,610 widening is not needed today by 9655 05:28:54,610 --> 05:28:56,578 the public it becomes necessary 9656 05:28:56,578 --> 05:28:58,130 only because seven private 9657 05:28:58,130 --> 05:28:59,615 developments are adding 9658 05:28:59,615 --> 05:29:00,850 thousands of new trips to his 9659 05:29:00,850 --> 05:29:02,752 corridor without those projects 9660 05:29:02,752 --> 05:29:04,587 this improvement would not be 9661 05:29:04,587 --> 05:29:06,622 required I think we made that 9662 05:29:06,622 --> 05:29:08,824 very clear based on the answers 9663 05:29:08,824 --> 05:29:09,759 provided by department of 9664 05:29:09,759 --> 05:29:11,694 transportation that matters 9665 05:29:11,694 --> 05:29:13,695 because when government uses 9666 05:29:13,695 --> 05:29:16,599 its power especially the power 9667 05:29:16,599 --> 05:29:18,600 to take property the virginia 9668 05:29:18,600 --> 05:29:19,802 constitution requires that the 9669 05:29:19,802 --> 05:29:21,771 primary purpose be public and 9670 05:29:21,771 --> 05:29:23,606 not incidental. Not secondary 9671 05:29:23,606 --> 05:29:25,608 primary. Clearly the primary 9672 05:29:25,608 --> 05:29:26,676 driver is private development. 9673 05:29:26,676 --> 05:29:29,760 The immediate benefit is 9674 05:29:29,645 --> 05:29:30,913 private development that raises 9675 05:29:30,913 --> 05:29:32,648 constitutional concerns permit 9676 05:29:32,648 --> 05:29:34,217 the goal will be on the 9677 05:29:34,217 --> 05:29:35,318 something is merely defensible 9678 05:29:35,318 --> 05:29:35,817 in a legal proceeding or 9679 05:29:35,817 --> 05:29:37,786 not. I 9680 05:29:37,786 --> 05:29:39,755 take property rights very 9681 05:29:39,755 --> 05:29:41,691 seriously everybody on this day 9682 05:29:41,691 --> 05:29:43,692 is knows that I take the 9683 05:29:43,692 --> 05:29:45,694 constitution seriously I cannot 9684 05:29:45,694 --> 05:29:47,663 in good faith support rezoning 9685 05:29:47,663 --> 05:29:48,831 is critical unstructured needs 9686 05:29:48,831 --> 05:29:50,666 exist only because a private 9687 05:29:50,666 --> 05:29:51,867 project demands it. That 9688 05:29:51,867 --> 05:29:53,869 manager I will be voting no. 9689 05:29:53,869 --> 05:29:54,836 >> Chair Jefferson: anyone else 9690 05:29:54,836 --> 05:29:56,836 before I speak. 9691 05:29:56,906 --> 05:29:58,908 >> George Stewart: I do believe 9692 05:29:58,908 --> 05:30:00,676 in housing I do believe we do 9693 05:30:00,676 --> 05:30:02,178 need more housing I just 9694 05:30:02,178 --> 05:30:03,679 believe it needs to happen in 9695 05:30:03,679 --> 05:30:04,881 the right way it needs to 9696 05:30:04,881 --> 05:30:06,848 happen also in the right area. 9697 05:30:06,848 --> 05:30:08,784 I don't think this is the right 9698 05:30:08,784 --> 05:30:09,719 area I don't think this is the 9699 05:30:09,719 --> 05:30:10,952 right way. 9700 05:30:10,952 --> 05:30:11,753 Unfortunately I will also be 9701 05:30:11,753 --> 05:30:13,753 voting no. 9702 05:30:13,823 --> 05:30:15,725 >> Chair Jefferson: all right 9703 05:30:15,725 --> 05:30:16,925 real quickly I am going to jump 9704 05:30:16,925 --> 05:30:18,860 and I apologize to everyone I 9705 05:30:18,860 --> 05:30:20,863 really truly meant to attend 9706 05:30:20,863 --> 05:30:22,765 the vint hill small area plan 9707 05:30:22,765 --> 05:30:24,300 last night unfortunately I did 9708 05:30:24,300 --> 05:30:28,500 have core issues that is why I 9709 05:30:30,539 --> 05:30:32,541 was unable to attend I've been 9710 05:30:32,541 --> 05:30:34,477 going to listen to the comments 9711 05:30:34,477 --> 05:30:36,411 breeding females we got I will 9712 05:30:36,411 --> 05:30:37,546 say yes jessica grote were 9713 05:30:37,546 --> 05:30:39,414 right you will need around 9714 05:30:39,414 --> 05:30:40,616 $300,000 to porterhouse 9715 05:30:40,616 --> 05:30:41,717 nowadays you need to have two 9716 05:30:41,717 --> 05:30:44,530 incomes the problem I think is 9717 05:30:44,530 --> 05:30:45,254 because we are behind it people 9718 05:30:45,254 --> 05:30:46,588 that is causing the problems 9719 05:30:46,588 --> 05:30:49,588 with portability we are behind 9720 05:30:56,598 --> 05:30:58,133 it people obviously I would 9721 05:30:58,133 --> 05:30:59,835 like to conserve land that's a 9722 05:30:59,835 --> 05:31:01,737 whole separate compensation 9723 05:31:01,737 --> 05:31:03,806 that we need to have what is 9724 05:31:03,806 --> 05:31:05,741 the best way to preserve land? 9725 05:31:05,741 --> 05:31:07,420 Just as those who oppose this 9726 05:31:07,420 --> 05:31:08,910 project we feel it compromises 9727 05:31:08,910 --> 05:31:10,780 their own quality of life I 9728 05:31:10,780 --> 05:31:13,215 just want to be careful with 9729 05:31:13,215 --> 05:31:15,184 that have a home that you love 9730 05:31:15,184 --> 05:31:19,384 I want other people to have a 9731 05:31:19,588 --> 05:31:21,623 home that they love. 9732 05:31:21,623 --> 05:31:23,592 We cannot do that right now in 9733 05:31:23,592 --> 05:31:24,827 this moment. Without looking at 9734 05:31:24,827 --> 05:31:27,827 different ways to create more 9735 05:31:30,499 --> 05:31:31,700 housing stock. 9736 05:31:31,700 --> 05:31:34,503 I will not going to say we have 9737 05:31:34,503 --> 05:31:36,505 a housing crisis we have an 9738 05:31:36,505 --> 05:31:38,505 affordability crisis people 9739 05:31:42,944 --> 05:31:44,112 cannot afford to live here. 9740 05:31:44,112 --> 05:31:45,980 That is a problem that is 9741 05:31:45,980 --> 05:31:47,983 something I take personally. I 9742 05:31:47,983 --> 05:31:49,985 came to prince william county 9743 05:31:49,985 --> 05:31:51,530 because this was the affordable 9744 05:31:51,530 --> 05:31:54,653 place to be. It is not 9745 05:32:10,239 --> 05:32:12,239 affordable anymore. 9746 05:32:12,240 --> 05:32:13,241 Someone like me 10 years ago 9747 05:32:13,241 --> 05:32:14,710 adjusting for inflation they 9748 05:32:14,710 --> 05:32:16,344 still cannot afford to live 9749 05:32:16,344 --> 05:32:18,280 there. I want people to be able 9750 05:32:18,280 --> 05:32:19,347 to come to this community and 9751 05:32:19,347 --> 05:32:21,383 make it their home. It is 9752 05:32:21,383 --> 05:32:23,252 become so much harder. Because 9753 05:32:23,252 --> 05:32:24,485 of that. I've heard a lot of 9754 05:32:24,485 --> 05:32:26,421 people talk about at least on 9755 05:32:26,421 --> 05:32:28,457 email talk about how density: 9756 05:32:28,457 --> 05:32:31,259 this project is one project but 9757 05:32:31,259 --> 05:32:32,261 the whole corridor as well high 9758 05:32:32,261 --> 05:32:34,329 density. High density is 9759 05:32:34,329 --> 05:32:34,562 multistory apartments they are 9760 05:32:34,562 --> 05:32:36,264 condos. 9761 05:32:36,264 --> 05:32:38,233 There is something that 9762 05:32:38,233 --> 05:32:40,235 maximizes the land and building 9763 05:32:40,235 --> 05:32:41,436 vertically. This is suburban 9764 05:32:41,436 --> 05:32:43,371 developments. Just as people 9765 05:32:43,371 --> 05:32:45,273 who have a single family homes 9766 05:32:45,273 --> 05:32:46,675 love their homes we need more 9767 05:32:46,675 --> 05:32:48,243 of that. Other people want to 9768 05:32:48,243 --> 05:32:48,610 have their piece of the 9769 05:32:48,610 --> 05:32:50,378 american dream. 9770 05:32:50,378 --> 05:32:50,579 I cannot stand in the way of 9771 05:32:50,579 --> 05:32:52,579 that. 9772 05:32:53,248 --> 05:32:54,482 I think there is a lot of 9773 05:32:54,482 --> 05:32:56,351 conversations we need to have 9774 05:32:56,351 --> 05:32:58,253 around housing and land use. 9775 05:32:58,253 --> 05:32:59,354 Again preservation is an 9776 05:32:59,354 --> 05:33:01,256 important part of that 9777 05:33:01,256 --> 05:33:04,125 discussion but just because you 9778 05:33:04,125 --> 05:33:05,259 have your piece of the american 9779 05:33:05,259 --> 05:33:07,128 dream don't deny to somebody 9780 05:33:07,128 --> 05:33:08,596 else. I am supporting this 9781 05:33:08,596 --> 05:33:10,131 project I am going to give 9782 05:33:10,131 --> 05:33:11,332 praise to my colleague 9783 05:33:11,332 --> 05:33:13,268 supervisor gordy I know you've 9784 05:33:13,268 --> 05:33:15,136 taken some hits on this. I want 9785 05:33:15,136 --> 05:33:16,338 to be very clear all of this 9786 05:33:16,338 --> 05:33:18,273 stuff the ball on this project 9787 05:33:18,273 --> 05:33:20,673 on these projects started 9788 05:33:21,209 --> 05:33:23,145 before supervisor gordy and 9789 05:33:23,145 --> 05:33:24,712 supervisor stuart government 9790 05:33:24,712 --> 05:33:26,581 office yes the small area plan 9791 05:33:26,581 --> 05:33:28,516 is playing catch-up it 9792 05:33:28,516 --> 05:33:30,170 should've come many years prior 9793 05:33:30,170 --> 05:33:33,255 but it didn't. I still see a 9794 05:33:33,255 --> 05:33:34,455 need for that there is still 9795 05:33:34,455 --> 05:33:36,391 still need to look at how this 9796 05:33:36,391 --> 05:33:37,492 whole corridor is going to work 9797 05:33:37,492 --> 05:33:39,528 together it is not ideal. 9798 05:33:39,528 --> 05:33:43,698 But a lot of our government is 9799 05:33:43,698 --> 05:33:44,866 not ideal. 9800 05:33:44,866 --> 05:33:46,834 What I want to get away from 9801 05:33:46,834 --> 05:33:48,703 what I like about this project 9802 05:33:48,703 --> 05:33:49,837 is it is not piecemeal or 9803 05:33:49,837 --> 05:33:50,806 patchwork. 9804 05:33:50,806 --> 05:33:52,106 We have a lot of that in this 9805 05:33:52,106 --> 05:33:55,706 county we have a lot of 9806 05:33:57,212 --> 05:33:58,446 piecemeal patchwork projects 9807 05:33:58,446 --> 05:34:00,314 that is why I'm supporting it 9808 05:34:00,314 --> 05:34:04,514 and doing what to say to my 9809 05:34:04,919 --> 05:34:06,919 colleagues supervisor gordy 9810 05:34:06,922 --> 05:34:08,122 this is in your district I 9811 05:34:08,122 --> 05:34:10,910 appreciate the work that you've 9812 05:34:10,910 --> 05:34:11,893 done also trying to bring the 9813 05:34:11,893 --> 05:34:13,261 different developers to the 9814 05:34:13,261 --> 05:34:15,960 table I truly appreciate that. 9815 05:34:15,960 --> 05:34:15,296 I will let you have a blessed 9816 05:34:15,296 --> 05:34:17,165 lord. 9817 05:34:17,165 --> 05:34:19,934 >> Victor Angry: I didn't want 9818 05:34:19,934 --> 05:34:21,836 to speak I don't do this I feel 9819 05:34:21,836 --> 05:34:23,700 the need to because I've been 9820 05:34:23,700 --> 05:34:26,670 on this board six years you've 9821 05:34:31,446 --> 05:34:32,714 heard it I'm the last standing 9822 05:34:32,714 --> 05:34:34,682 longest surviving the sport is 9823 05:34:34,682 --> 05:34:36,584 been over the place I'm talking 9824 05:34:36,584 --> 05:34:38,553 to the board I've always said 9825 05:34:38,553 --> 05:34:40,488 this the public gets to hear us 9826 05:34:40,488 --> 05:34:42,123 we are fishable we talk to each 9827 05:34:42,123 --> 05:34:44,580 other and not done they get 9828 05:34:44,580 --> 05:34:45,192 treatments then begin a public 9829 05:34:45,192 --> 05:34:47,161 hearing for an effort to 9830 05:34:47,161 --> 05:34:49,630 support core all over the place 9831 05:34:49,630 --> 05:34:50,632 support the district supervisor 9832 05:34:50,632 --> 05:34:52,133 when they make a motion what's 9833 05:34:52,133 --> 05:34:53,301 in their district it's been 9834 05:34:53,301 --> 05:34:55,701 supported not supported there 9835 05:34:56,370 --> 05:34:57,806 is one county in prince william 9836 05:34:57,806 --> 05:35:00,806 county it is prince william 9837 05:35:01,376 --> 05:35:03,378 county there is not seven 9838 05:35:03,378 --> 05:35:04,645 counties in principal and 9839 05:35:04,645 --> 05:35:06,514 county even the products we put 9840 05:35:06,514 --> 05:35:08,449 in these districts we have an 9841 05:35:08,449 --> 05:35:10,418 obligation at this board is the 9842 05:35:10,418 --> 05:35:11,953 status to prevent move this 9843 05:35:11,953 --> 05:35:13,521 county forward the staff does a 9844 05:35:13,521 --> 05:35:15,422 great job with it the plan 9845 05:35:15,422 --> 05:35:16,657 commission because a great job 9846 05:35:16,657 --> 05:35:18,593 with it we have everything in 9847 05:35:18,593 --> 05:35:20,428 place to do the job we supposed 9848 05:35:20,428 --> 05:35:20,694 to be doing make these 9849 05:35:20,694 --> 05:35:22,596 decisions. 9850 05:35:22,596 --> 05:35:24,431 I'm sorry I love it's recorded 9851 05:35:24,431 --> 05:35:26,434 in people get to hear but in 9852 05:35:26,434 --> 05:35:27,902 talking to all supervisor gordy 9853 05:35:27,902 --> 05:35:29,437 you put a whole lot of work 9854 05:35:29,437 --> 05:35:30,938 into this you public on the 9855 05:35:30,938 --> 05:35:32,540 best solution out of lowering 9856 05:35:32,540 --> 05:35:34,442 density of which just to prove 9857 05:35:34,442 --> 05:35:35,643 a public human way higher 9858 05:35:35,643 --> 05:35:38,450 you've done all you could with 9859 05:35:38,450 --> 05:35:39,914 this it is your product that is 9860 05:35:39,914 --> 05:35:41,916 why I give you credit for the 9861 05:35:41,916 --> 05:35:43,918 district that you represent you 9862 05:35:43,918 --> 05:35:45,119 brought it to the board I think 9863 05:35:45,119 --> 05:35:47,188 you brought a great product to 9864 05:35:47,188 --> 05:35:49,570 the board I get everything that 9865 05:35:49,570 --> 05:35:50,925 is been set around it at the 9866 05:35:50,925 --> 05:35:52,259 end of the day when we talk 9867 05:35:52,259 --> 05:35:54,610 about these housing and the 9868 05:35:54,610 --> 05:35:56,196 prices housing in the county 9869 05:35:56,196 --> 05:35:58,650 the only lower pricing when you 9870 05:35:58,650 --> 05:35:59,266 get more homes built that is 9871 05:35:59,266 --> 05:36:01,202 exactly what you did you could 9872 05:36:01,202 --> 05:36:03,370 have done more but you did what 9873 05:36:03,370 --> 05:36:04,272 you need to do to keep that 9874 05:36:04,272 --> 05:36:06,174 corridor balanced that is what 9875 05:36:06,174 --> 05:36:08,109 you've done I just want to say 9876 05:36:08,109 --> 05:36:09,309 that folks typically spend a 9877 05:36:09,309 --> 05:36:11,211 lot of time going around and 9878 05:36:11,211 --> 05:36:11,813 stuff I will just operate there 9879 05:36:11,813 --> 05:36:13,214 thanks 9880 05:36:13,214 --> 05:36:15,820 supervisor gordy thank 9881 05:36:15,820 --> 05:36:16,284 you I appreciate it. 9882 05:36:16,284 --> 05:36:18,152 >> Chair Jefferson: all right. 9883 05:36:18,152 --> 05:36:21,152 >> Tom Gordy: thank you for 9884 05:36:21,755 --> 05:36:23,240 cheerful what you said about 9885 05:36:23,240 --> 05:36:24,959 what is going on with housing 9886 05:36:24,959 --> 05:36:26,727 and thank you everyone else for 9887 05:36:26,727 --> 05:36:29,997 your input I just want to 9888 05:36:29,997 --> 05:36:31,832 remind the community and at 9889 05:36:31,832 --> 05:36:33,534 this board how we got to where 9890 05:36:33,534 --> 05:36:35,569 we are right now. 9891 05:36:35,569 --> 05:36:36,938 There was land for residential 9892 05:36:36,938 --> 05:36:39,173 development along the linton 9893 05:36:39,173 --> 05:36:41,441 whole quarter the people said 9894 05:36:41,441 --> 05:36:43,841 don't put houses there. 9895 05:36:45,178 --> 05:36:47,800 It had a sewer and water there 9896 05:36:47,800 --> 05:36:50,500 were roads there were schools. 9897 05:36:50,500 --> 05:36:53,500 What they said don't put 9898 05:36:53,453 --> 05:36:55,453 houses there. 9899 05:36:55,489 --> 05:36:59,890 What did they put their. Data 9900 05:37:00,610 --> 05:37:01,195 centers. 9901 05:37:01,195 --> 05:37:03,640 Raise your hand if you are 9902 05:37:03,640 --> 05:37:04,165 happy about the data centers 9903 05:37:04,165 --> 05:37:05,650 going along linton whole 9904 05:37:05,650 --> 05:37:07,650 corridor? 9905 05:37:11,238 --> 05:37:13,238 Nobody. 9906 05:37:16,100 --> 05:37:20,210 When we govern in fear we end 9907 05:37:22,116 --> 05:37:25,116 up with decisions like that. 9908 05:37:26,860 --> 05:37:29,686 Now here we are 10 years later 9909 05:37:31,224 --> 05:37:33,126 we have a housing crisis I do 9910 05:37:33,126 --> 05:37:34,361 call it a crisis I don't know 9911 05:37:34,361 --> 05:37:36,330 how my kids are ever going to 9912 05:37:36,330 --> 05:37:37,832 be able afford house if it were 9913 05:37:37,832 --> 05:37:39,700 not for homeownership I would 9914 05:37:39,700 --> 05:37:42,700 still be paying student loan 9915 05:37:43,504 --> 05:37:44,505 debt. 9916 05:37:44,505 --> 05:37:46,507 If it were not for 9917 05:37:46,507 --> 05:37:48,508 homeownership I would still be 9918 05:37:48,508 --> 05:37:50,511 stuck with a lot more debt but 9919 05:37:50,511 --> 05:37:52,120 homeownership is the greatest 9920 05:37:52,120 --> 05:37:54,412 opportunity in this country 9921 05:37:54,748 --> 05:37:55,916 wealth building. 9922 05:37:55,916 --> 05:37:57,885 Right now in prince william 9923 05:37:57,885 --> 05:38:00,885 county upward mobility has come 9924 05:38:05,893 --> 05:38:06,994 to a screeching halt. 9925 05:38:06,994 --> 05:38:08,929 I know this because I get 9926 05:38:08,929 --> 05:38:10,897 complaints from neighborhoods 9927 05:38:10,897 --> 05:38:12,166 like braemar complaining about 9928 05:38:12,166 --> 05:38:13,670 the number of families living 9929 05:38:13,670 --> 05:38:15,670 in a house. 9930 05:38:16,469 --> 05:38:20,690 Jamming up the road with cars 9931 05:38:22,542 --> 05:38:23,777 we can be blind to the problem 9932 05:38:23,777 --> 05:38:25,679 but the reality is we are going 9933 05:38:25,679 --> 05:38:28,679 to have to build houses 9934 05:38:33,754 --> 05:38:35,754 somewhere. 9935 05:38:35,756 --> 05:38:36,957 Now we've got to find a way to 9936 05:38:36,957 --> 05:38:38,859 adjust this if we don't build 9937 05:38:38,859 --> 05:38:40,600 it here they are going to build 9938 05:38:40,600 --> 05:38:41,929 it somewhere else. 9939 05:38:41,929 --> 05:38:44,264 He will build it in culpeper 9940 05:38:44,264 --> 05:38:45,432 bulkier stafford go to 9941 05:38:45,432 --> 05:38:47,401 fleetwood in the morning and 9942 05:38:47,401 --> 05:38:49,236 see much traffic is coming to 9943 05:38:49,236 --> 05:38:51,636 prince william county from 9944 05:38:52,472 --> 05:38:53,674 stafford county guests who will 9945 05:38:53,674 --> 05:38:55,709 have to pay to fix fleetwood 9946 05:38:55,709 --> 05:38:57,711 how taxpayers will still have 9947 05:38:57,711 --> 05:38:59,546 to use eminent domain on that 9948 05:38:59,546 --> 05:39:00,948 except it's for public deed 9949 05:39:00,948 --> 05:39:02,683 caused by stafford county. We 9950 05:39:02,683 --> 05:39:06,283 get no economic benefit from it 9951 05:39:09,222 --> 05:39:10,423 but we have to pay for it. 9952 05:39:10,423 --> 05:39:14,623 This is going to be a repeated 9953 05:39:16,696 --> 05:39:18,598 pattern of bad behavior if we 9954 05:39:18,598 --> 05:39:20,990 don't take a look at the need 9955 05:39:20,990 --> 05:39:21,635 that we have before us and 9956 05:39:21,635 --> 05:39:22,735 begin to address this prince 9957 05:39:22,735 --> 05:39:24,371 william county as part of 9958 05:39:24,371 --> 05:39:25,505 northern virginia. 9959 05:39:25,505 --> 05:39:27,540 While I do want to preserve 9960 05:39:27,540 --> 05:39:29,776 open space and have a directive 9961 05:39:29,776 --> 05:39:33,976 aimed at doing just that so we 9962 05:39:42,155 --> 05:39:44,157 can establish a free market 9963 05:39:44,157 --> 05:39:45,292 approach to land conservation 9964 05:39:45,292 --> 05:39:47,294 and land preservation through 9965 05:39:47,294 --> 05:39:49,228 pdr purchase department rights 9966 05:39:49,228 --> 05:39:50,564 transfer debarment rights and 9967 05:39:50,564 --> 05:39:52,332 conservation easements. 9968 05:39:52,332 --> 05:39:54,167 So we also have a plan for that 9969 05:39:54,167 --> 05:39:55,368 but he gets back to 1.5 9970 05:39:55,368 --> 05:39:58,968 continue to use since I got 9971 05:40:00,440 --> 05:40:01,574 sworn and it is about balance. 9972 05:40:01,574 --> 05:40:03,476 Right now we are out of 9973 05:40:03,476 --> 05:40:05,445 balance. We are out of balance 9974 05:40:05,445 --> 05:40:06,513 with data centers we have too 9975 05:40:06,513 --> 05:40:09,482 many of them to we have to get 9976 05:40:09,482 --> 05:40:10,450 it back to balance. We have out 9977 05:40:10,450 --> 05:40:11,618 of balance and housing a 9978 05:40:11,618 --> 05:40:13,453 single-family home on a less 9979 05:40:13,453 --> 05:40:14,921 than half acre lot in my 9980 05:40:14,921 --> 05:40:16,890 district just went for $1.9 9981 05:40:16,890 --> 05:40:18,890 million. 9982 05:40:19,258 --> 05:40:22,258 It is insane what's happening 9983 05:40:22,829 --> 05:40:23,763 guess what that means our taxes 9984 05:40:23,763 --> 05:40:25,763 are going up. 9985 05:40:26,533 --> 05:40:28,933 We will pay for 9986 05:40:41,181 --> 05:40:42,616 this one way or the other. 9987 05:40:42,616 --> 05:40:44,216 By saying no there is a 9988 05:40:44,216 --> 05:40:46,219 downstream effects. On all of 9989 05:40:46,219 --> 05:40:47,754 us by saying yes there is a 9990 05:40:47,754 --> 05:40:49,423 downstream effect on all of us. 9991 05:40:49,423 --> 05:40:51,391 My job is to figure out what is 9992 05:40:51,391 --> 05:40:53,259 the right balance I think we 9993 05:40:53,259 --> 05:40:55,228 strike the right balance here I 9994 05:40:55,228 --> 05:40:56,629 will continue to work to try to 9995 05:40:56,629 --> 05:40:58,365 strike that right balance 9996 05:40:58,365 --> 05:40:59,466 because it is what is necessary 9997 05:40:59,466 --> 05:41:01,368 for a good community. 9998 05:41:01,368 --> 05:41:03,470 I appreciate all the hard work 9999 05:41:03,470 --> 05:41:05,438 that is here I appreciate we 10000 05:41:05,438 --> 05:41:06,606 will agree to disagree amongst 10001 05:41:06,606 --> 05:41:08,507 ourselves that is okay. When 10002 05:41:08,507 --> 05:41:10,443 it's all said and done you will 10003 05:41:10,443 --> 05:41:11,911 get together we will still 10004 05:41:11,911 --> 05:41:13,446 respect one another we will 10005 05:41:13,446 --> 05:41:14,681 continue to work for the good 10006 05:41:14,681 --> 05:41:16,683 of this community. I appreciate 10007 05:41:16,683 --> 05:41:18,617 all the input that people are 10008 05:41:18,617 --> 05:41:20,454 afraid we just got to continue 10009 05:41:20,454 --> 05:41:22,455 to work towards the right 10010 05:41:22,455 --> 05:41:23,990 balance I appreciate all the 10011 05:41:23,990 --> 05:41:25,625 work has been done so far we 10012 05:41:25,625 --> 05:41:27,627 will continue to do thank you. 10013 05:41:27,627 --> 05:41:29,529 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 10014 05:41:29,529 --> 05:41:29,796 very much I would like call for 10015 05:41:29,796 --> 05:41:31,796 the vote. 10016 05:41:34,734 --> 05:41:36,734 >> motion passes 6/2 supervisor 10017 05:41:38,571 --> 05:41:40,971 vega until PRESIDENT Stewart 10018 05:41:45,378 --> 05:41:45,578 supervisor stuart 10019 05:41:45,578 --> 05:41:47,578 . 10020 05:41:47,647 --> 05:41:49,549 >> Chair Jefferson: it's what 10021 05:41:49,549 --> 05:41:51,550 happened when I don't have the 10022 05:41:51,550 --> 05:41:52,651 agenda public comment time I'm 10023 05:41:52,651 --> 05:41:54,253 sorry who do we have. 10024 05:41:54,253 --> 05:41:54,320 We have 10025 05:41:54,320 --> 05:41:56,320 . 10026 05:42:19,512 --> 05:42:20,813 [Listing names] Then we have 10027 05:42:20,813 --> 05:42:22,648 this is public comment if you 10028 05:42:22,648 --> 05:42:24,550 want to quickly take the sign 10029 05:42:24,550 --> 05:42:28,150 off do we have another sign-up 10030 05:42:32,224 --> 05:42:33,860 sheet back there. 10031 05:42:33,860 --> 05:42:37,863 You can go ahead and then we 10032 05:42:37,863 --> 05:42:41,463 have other people we can you 10033 05:42:42,835 --> 05:42:44,835 have three minutes. 10034 05:42:46,439 --> 05:42:48,839 >> this is pertaining to 10035 05:42:49,408 --> 05:42:49,509 default on what topic for 10036 05:42:49,509 --> 05:42:51,509 . 10037 05:42:51,511 --> 05:42:53,911 >> Chair Jefferson: you can 10038 05:42:56,749 --> 05:42:57,916 topic. 10039 05:42:57,916 --> 05:42:59,785 Are you prepared or should I 10040 05:42:59,785 --> 05:43:02,288 invite the other one backup. 10041 05:43:02,288 --> 05:43:04,190 >> I think I'm prepared this 10042 05:43:04,190 --> 05:43:07,260 applicant is not part of the 10043 05:43:07,260 --> 05:43:09,161 medial contribution to the 10044 05:43:09,161 --> 05:43:10,329 widening of the comprehensive 10045 05:43:10,329 --> 05:43:13,929 road plan which is what the 10046 05:43:30,950 --> 05:43:32,852 other developers are proposing 10047 05:43:32,852 --> 05:43:34,754 to do to vint hill road they 10048 05:43:34,754 --> 05:43:36,756 made no contribution to the 10049 05:43:36,756 --> 05:43:38,757 road they are taking 10 school 10050 05:43:38,757 --> 05:43:39,858 credits from knoxville and 10051 05:43:39,858 --> 05:43:41,858 transfer those 10 school 10052 05:43:41,860 --> 05:43:43,763 credits leaders school is at an 10053 05:43:43,763 --> 05:43:44,964 expansion each school has 10 10054 05:43:44,964 --> 05:43:47,800 the overcapacity. Why is the 10055 05:43:47,800 --> 05:43:49,769 plan commission by the board of 10056 05:43:49,769 --> 05:43:51,203 supervisors not more hundred 10057 05:43:51,203 --> 05:43:52,738 percent involved with the 10058 05:43:52,738 --> 05:43:54,573 school board as a whole the 10059 05:43:54,573 --> 05:43:56,475 find out you will find these 10060 05:43:56,475 --> 05:43:57,750 they offered to new sites in. 10061 05:43:57,750 --> 05:44:00,750 [Listing names] No school in 10062 05:44:03,249 --> 05:44:05,284 this strap development who will 10063 05:44:05,284 --> 05:44:07,684 fund the schools $300 million 10064 05:44:13,726 --> 05:44:14,927 is what they quoted I'm 10065 05:44:14,927 --> 05:44:16,796 crunching the numbers because 10066 05:44:16,796 --> 05:44:18,164 the planning commission asked 10067 05:44:18,164 --> 05:44:19,799 the developer stanley martin 10068 05:44:19,799 --> 05:44:21,701 how much will he make profit 10069 05:44:21,701 --> 05:44:21,867 for house he said $30,000 10070 05:44:21,867 --> 05:44:23,702 300c 10071 05:44:23,702 --> 05:44:24,970 000 $300 million will fund 10072 05:44:24,970 --> 05:44:27,970 the schools we cannot continue 10073 05:44:28,874 --> 05:44:30,109 to put the burden of taxation 10074 05:44:30,109 --> 05:44:31,977 on the residence of this county 10075 05:44:31,977 --> 05:44:33,913 to keep funding for roads and 10076 05:44:33,913 --> 05:44:35,915 keep funding the schools when 10077 05:44:35,915 --> 05:44:37,149 the developers need the proper 10078 05:44:37,149 --> 05:44:39,170 office and make a concession to 10079 05:44:39,170 --> 05:44:41,620 the county as part of their 10080 05:44:41,620 --> 05:44:43,555 development package going back 10081 05:44:43,555 --> 05:44:45,524 to what they said if we were 10082 05:44:45,524 --> 05:44:46,692 building schools was going to 10083 05:44:46,692 --> 05:44:48,628 find these calls will state is 10084 05:44:48,628 --> 05:44:50,463 a negative drag it does not 10085 05:44:50,463 --> 05:44:52,464 produce economics for the 10086 05:44:52,464 --> 05:44:53,699 county more taxation more 10087 05:44:53,699 --> 05:44:55,434 taxation will virtually be 10088 05:44:55,434 --> 05:44:56,535 taxed out of the county this 10089 05:44:56,535 --> 05:44:58,570 happened to me in fairfax 10090 05:44:58,570 --> 05:45:01,570 county I dealt with the 10091 05:45:01,807 --> 05:45:03,807 planning tax administration 10092 05:45:14,753 --> 05:45:16,753 . 10093 05:45:16,755 --> 05:45:18,223 Real estate is a negative 10094 05:45:18,223 --> 05:45:20,426 amortization does not bring 10095 05:45:20,426 --> 05:45:21,794 economic growth to the county 10096 05:45:21,794 --> 05:45:22,895 more houses more houses 10097 05:45:22,895 --> 05:45:24,929 changing the rural present 10098 05:45:24,929 --> 05:45:26,798 density zoning to what's called 10099 05:45:26,798 --> 05:45:28,798 moral planned master 10100 05:45:31,637 --> 05:45:34,370 development the next seven 10101 05:45:39,211 --> 05:45:41,113 applicants are still 1000 10102 05:45:41,113 --> 05:45:42,180 houses is 150. The next guy has 10103 05:45:42,180 --> 05:45:44,180 24th yes 476. 10104 05:45:46,840 --> 05:45:47,986 Too much is too much more 10105 05:45:47,986 --> 05:45:50,986 housing for housing is not 10106 05:45:52,791 --> 05:45:53,959 bringing a relief to the 10107 05:45:53,959 --> 05:45:56,959 problem houses do not bring 10108 05:45:59,764 --> 05:46:00,966 economic spread the more houses 10109 05:46:00,966 --> 05:46:02,868 will not bring down the price 10110 05:46:02,868 --> 05:46:04,803 of the house. The builder wants 10111 05:46:04,803 --> 05:46:05,137 to maximize their 10112 05:46:05,137 --> 05:46:06,905 profitability. 10113 05:46:06,905 --> 05:46:08,773 We can build and build and we 10114 05:46:08,773 --> 05:46:09,908 destroy the whole question 10115 05:46:09,908 --> 05:46:11,908 prince william county. 10116 05:46:16,882 --> 05:46:18,490 >> Chair Jefferson: I am sorry 10117 05:46:18,490 --> 05:46:19,184 just say your name and we 10118 05:46:19,184 --> 05:46:21,200 reside woman temporally set. 10119 05:46:21,200 --> 05:46:21,286 >> my name is paul short I 10120 05:46:21,286 --> 05:46:22,888 reside on 10121 05:46:22,888 --> 05:46:24,422 the brentsville 10122 05:46:24,422 --> 05:46:25,991 district and owls nest road. 10123 05:46:25,991 --> 05:46:27,893 >> Chair Jefferson: next 10124 05:46:27,893 --> 05:46:30,893 speaker sacred name when you 10125 05:46:31,229 --> 05:46:33,198 reside is a county attorney who 10126 05:46:33,198 --> 05:46:33,365 will look at me if we don't do 10127 05:46:33,365 --> 05:46:35,167 it. 10128 05:46:35,167 --> 05:46:37,102 >> did you get my name is amy 10129 05:46:37,102 --> 05:46:39,370 crosby a live-in respect to the 10130 05:46:39,370 --> 05:46:40,439 principal district I do think 10131 05:46:40,439 --> 05:46:42,400 this the right location I 10132 05:46:42,400 --> 05:46:45,400 believe that because I know 10133 05:46:48,880 --> 05:46:50,150 vint hill myself we currently 10134 05:46:50,150 --> 05:46:51,984 bulkier from prince william 10135 05:46:51,984 --> 05:46:53,886 county almost 5 years he's been 10136 05:46:53,886 --> 05:46:55,540 a mechanic it's the right 10137 05:46:55,540 --> 05:46:56,988 location because what I'm 10138 05:46:56,988 --> 05:46:59,240 seeing more often than not is 10139 05:46:59,240 --> 05:47:00,926 families phaseout which is what 10140 05:47:00,926 --> 05:47:02,394 I believe I wrote inside the in 10141 05:47:02,394 --> 05:47:03,962 the article it was the family 10142 05:47:03,962 --> 05:47:05,898 please outperforming and no 10143 05:47:05,898 --> 05:47:07,198 longer want to do that all the 10144 05:47:07,198 --> 05:47:09,670 current residents MAY want to 10145 05:47:09,670 --> 05:47:10,902 hold off and not want that was 10146 05:47:10,902 --> 05:47:12,700 to save their children will 10147 05:47:12,700 --> 05:47:13,972 want to maintain at the same 10148 05:47:13,972 --> 05:47:15,173 location in 20 or 30 years we 10149 05:47:15,173 --> 05:47:17,750 don't have any homes we could 10150 05:47:17,750 --> 05:47:19,430 have data centers as atrocious 10151 05:47:19,430 --> 05:47:20,912 it is a great location however 10152 05:47:20,912 --> 05:47:22,180 the traffic study I think the 10153 05:47:22,180 --> 05:47:24,150 biggest key here vint hill road 10154 05:47:24,150 --> 05:47:26,840 is a dangerous road and I do 10155 05:47:26,840 --> 05:47:27,920 think infrastructure needs to 10156 05:47:27,920 --> 05:47:29,120 change regardless of these 10157 05:47:29,120 --> 05:47:31,122 homes coming in I think it's 10158 05:47:31,122 --> 05:47:33,240 been dangerous for a while hope 10159 05:47:33,240 --> 05:47:36,694 you guys will look at that also 10160 05:47:36,694 --> 05:47:38,529 look at the water rollins horde 10161 05:47:38,529 --> 05:47:39,731 that can be a great area of 10162 05:47:39,731 --> 05:47:41,466 connection I think that needs 10163 05:47:41,466 --> 05:47:42,633 to be figured in with 10164 05:47:42,633 --> 05:47:44,602 connecting doors and eminent 10165 05:47:44,602 --> 05:47:46,538 domain is the lower part of the 10166 05:47:46,538 --> 05:47:48,473 water brought right which no 10167 05:47:48,473 --> 05:47:49,641 bridges in over it so it can 10168 05:47:49,641 --> 05:47:51,476 connect and people can go a 10169 05:47:51,476 --> 05:47:51,943 different way that would help 10170 05:47:51,943 --> 05:47:53,177 ease congestion. 10171 05:47:53,177 --> 05:47:55,130 Then looking at lake manassas 10172 05:47:55,130 --> 05:47:56,948 is used for the city of 10173 05:47:56,948 --> 05:47:58,950 manassas could be used to help 10174 05:47:58,950 --> 05:48:00,485 water with the prince william 10175 05:48:00,485 --> 05:48:02,530 water on the side of the county 10176 05:48:02,530 --> 05:48:05,653 and the way thank you again 10177 05:48:07,792 --> 05:48:08,960 this was a great first meeting 10178 05:48:08,960 --> 05:48:09,160 for me hope to see you again 10179 05:48:09,160 --> 05:48:10,929 soon. 10180 05:48:10,929 --> 05:48:12,798 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 10181 05:48:12,798 --> 05:48:13,431 very much if you want to join 10182 05:48:13,431 --> 05:48:14,310 to frequent flyer, 10183 05:48:14,310 --> 05:48:15,967 it's free to 10184 05:48:15,967 --> 05:48:16,201 join up thank you for everybody 10185 05:48:16,201 --> 05:48:17,869 who is 10186 05:48:17,869 --> 05:48:19,804 come out and spoken to 10187 05:48:19,804 --> 05:48:20,905 have anybody from remote. 10188 05:48:20,905 --> 05:48:21,807 >> we have one person from 10189 05:48:21,807 --> 05:48:22,973 remote. 10190 05:48:22,973 --> 05:48:24,108 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 10191 05:48:24,108 --> 05:48:24,208 guess we do please proceed 10192 05:48:24,208 --> 05:48:24,376 . 10193 05:48:24,376 --> 05:48:26,211 >>. 10194 05:48:26,211 --> 05:48:26,377 [Listing names] Can you hear 10195 05:48:26,377 --> 05:48:28,212 me. 10196 05:48:28,212 --> 05:48:29,214 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 10197 05:48:29,214 --> 05:48:29,380 yes I can hear you. 10198 05:48:29,380 --> 05:48:31,249 > just 10199 05:48:31,249 --> 05:48:32,918 making sure I just wanted to 10200 05:48:32,918 --> 05:48:34,886 make two brief comments one I 10201 05:48:34,886 --> 05:48:37,886 didn't hear any discussion of 10202 05:48:38,689 --> 05:48:39,924 housing cost or hoa fees for 10203 05:48:39,924 --> 05:48:41,793 this project. Maybe I missed 10204 05:48:41,793 --> 05:48:45,993 it. And number two I want to 10205 05:48:50,334 --> 05:48:51,536 read from the planning 10206 05:48:51,536 --> 05:48:53,536 commission meeting JULY 27, 10207 05:49:02,614 --> 05:49:04,548 2022 cpa 2022 000 teen devlin 10208 05:49:04,548 --> 05:49:06,484 technology park recommended for 10209 05:49:06,484 --> 05:49:08,190 approval motion made by 10210 05:49:08,190 --> 05:49:09,487 commissioner gordy seconded by 10211 05:49:09,487 --> 05:49:11,887 Mcphail then the subsequent 10212 05:49:12,790 --> 05:49:14,358 rezoning 2022-000 22 devlin 10213 05:49:14,358 --> 05:49:16,758 technology park motion for 10214 05:49:17,628 --> 05:49:20,280 approval made by commissioner 10215 05:49:20,431 --> 05:49:22,667 gordy seconded by commissioner 10216 05:49:22,667 --> 05:49:24,435 Mcphail. 10217 05:49:24,435 --> 05:49:25,770 I do have a problem with the 10218 05:49:25,770 --> 05:49:25,970 data centers on linton hall 10219 05:49:25,970 --> 05:49:27,738 road. 10220 05:49:27,738 --> 05:49:31,338 I also remember how they got 10221 05:49:33,778 --> 05:49:34,746 there thanks so much you'll 10222 05:49:34,746 --> 05:49:35,980 have a great night. 10223 05:49:35,980 --> 05:49:37,781 >> Chair Jefferson: 10224 05:49:37,781 --> 05:49:39,650 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 10225 05:49:39,650 --> 05:49:39,984 thank you MS. Carol and the 10226 05:49:39,984 --> 05:49:41,984 others online. 10227 05:49:45,389 --> 05:49:45,890 >> vice chair no other speakers 10228 05:49:45,890 --> 05:49:47,759 . 10229 05:49:47,759 --> 05:49:48,960 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 10230 05:49:48,960 --> 05:49:49,160 thank you very much for your 10231 05:49:49,160 --> 05:49:50,961 help. 10232 05:49:50,961 --> 05:49:52,897 >> Chair Jefferson: thank you 10233 05:49:52,897 --> 05:49:53,964 very much everyone who is come 10234 05:49:53,964 --> 05:49:57,564 up to speak to escrow can 10235 05:52:10,349 --> 05:52:13,185 >> Chair Jefferson: we are back 10236 05:52:13,185 --> 05:52:16,785 from closed session I need a 10237 05:52:26,966 --> 05:52:27,400 motion to certify. 10238 05:52:27,400 --> 05:52:29,000 let's go ahead and 10239 05:52:29,000 --> 05:52:29,401 take a vote. 10240 05:52:29,401 --> 05:52:29,568 >> vote unanimous. 10241 05:52:29,568 --> 05:52:31,170 >> 10242 05:52:31,170 --> 05:52:33,500 Chair Jefferson: we have two 10243 05:52:33,500 --> 05:52:34,440 motions we are going to make a 10244 05:52:34,440 --> 05:52:36,800 percent supervisor bailey. 10245 05:52:36,800 --> 05:52:37,176 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: 10246 05:52:37,176 --> 05:52:39,110 thank you bencher I moved to 10247 05:52:39,110 --> 05:52:40,790 county executive annual 10248 05:52:40,790 --> 05:52:41,213 performance review and 10249 05:52:41,213 --> 05:52:42,348 compensation adjustment. 10250 05:52:42,348 --> 05:52:43,215 >> Kenny Boddye: I 10251 05:52:43,215 --> 05:52:43,449 second the 10252 05:52:43,449 --> 05:52:45,217 motion. 10253 05:52:45,217 --> 05:52:46,251 > Chair Jefferson: 10254 05:52:46,251 --> 05:52:46,418 let's take our vote. 10255 05:52:46,418 --> 05:52:47,286 >> 10256 05:52:47,286 --> 05:52:48,220 vote unanimous 10257 05:52:48,220 --> 05:52:50,122 supervisor 10258 05:52:50,122 --> 05:52:50,256 stuart abstaining from the vote 10259 05:52:50,256 --> 05:52:51,990 . 10260 05:52:51,990 --> 05:52:52,224 >> Chair Jefferson: in the 10261 05:52:52,224 --> 05:52:54,920 second. 10262 05:52:54,920 --> 05:52:55,994 >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: of 10263 05:52:55,994 --> 05:52:58,300 the county attorney's annual 10264 05:52:58,300 --> 05:52:58,563 performance review and 10265 05:52:58,563 --> 05:53:00,232 compensation adjustment. 10266 05:53:00,232 --> 05:53:00,465 >> Kenny Boddye: I second the 10267 05:53:00,465 --> 05:53:02,465 motion. 10268 05:53:03,680 --> 05:53:03,435 > Chair 10269 05:53:03,435 --> 05:53:04,569 Jefferson: 10270 05:53:04,569 --> 05:53:06,305 let's take our vote. 10271 05:53:06,305 --> 05:53:08,400 Vote unanimous supervisor 10272 05:53:08,400 --> 05:53:08,240 stuart abstaining from the 10273 05:53:08,240 --> 05:53:10,800 vote. 10274 05:53:10,800 --> 05:53:11,243 >> Chair Jefferson: a most 10275 05:53:11,243 --> 05:53:13,450 important vote of the evening 10276 05:53:13,450 --> 05:53:15,460 is to adjourn for an. 10277 05:53:15,460 --> 05:53:17,460 >> motion to adjourn. 10278 05:53:18,383 --> 05:53:19,618 [Laughter] 10279 05:53:19,618 --> 05:53:20,519 >> Tom Gordy: I make a motion 10280 05:53:20,519 --> 05:53:22,455 to approve. 10281 05:53:22,455 --> 05:53:25,455 >> Kenny Boddye: I second the 10282 05:53:33,999 --> 05:53:34,333 motion 10283 05:53:34,333 --> 05:53:35,534 . 10284 05:53:35,534 --> 05:53:37,534 >> vote unanimous.