[0:19] >> Chair Jefferson: I would
[0:20] like to go ahead and call the
[0:20] meeting to order.
[0:23] Let us begin with a moment of
[0:26] silence.
[0:42] [Moment of silence]
[0:43] Thank you.
[0:51] Please rise if you are able.
[0:52] >>> I pledge allegiance to the
[0:54] flag of the united states of
[1:00] america and to the republic for
[1:02] which it stands, one nation
[1:02] under GOD, indivisible, with
[1:11] liberty and justice for all.
[1:12] >> Chair Jefferson: before we
[1:13] begin I want to acknowledge we
[1:16] have a new member on the dais.
[1:22] He was previously mentioned
[1:23] during our finance and budget
[1:24] committee meeting, but this is
[1:25] the start of the official
[1:30] meeting.
[1:31] I wanted to take a quick moment
[1:32] to welcome george stewart who
[1:33] is a new gainesville district
[1:33] supervisor.
[1:36] So welcome.
[1:37] >> George Stewart: thank you
[1:40] very much MADAM Chair.
[1:41] To my fellow board members and
[1:45] staff back here, I have some
[1:50] pictures to fill from the
[1:51] predecessor who sat in the seat
[1:52] before me and I'm looking
[1:52] forward to getting to work.
[1:54] Thank you
[1:55] .
[1:56] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[1:56] we are going to move to agenda
[1:57] item number three and that is
[2:02] the approval of minutes.
[2:02] MAY I have a motion for items
[2:03] 3a, b and c?
[2:04] >> Andrea Bailey: so moved.
[2:05] > Vice Chair Boddye: second.
[2:06] >> Chair Jefferson: any
[2:07] discussion?
[2:07] If not, I would like to call
[2:16] for the vote.
[2:16] >> vote unanimous supervisors
[2:23] to abstaining from vote.
[2:24] >> Chair Jefferson: we are
[2:25] going to move to agenda item
[2:26] for and that is accommodations
[2:26] and proclamations.
[2:27] I would like to note that for
[2:32] 4c there is a request to
[2:33] reschedule that for DECEMBER so
[2:34] we will not be taking vote on
[2:34] 4c today.
[2:35] So I would like to get a motion
[2:43] for fort a, b, d through f.
[2:48] >> I think it might be 4d.
[2:48] >> Chair Jefferson: I'm so
[2:49] sorry.
[2:53] I circled the wrong one.
[2:54] I would like to get a motion
[3:04] for b, c, d and f. Any
[3:08] discussion on these items?
[3:09] Let's go ahead and take a vote
[3:12] .
[3:13] >> vote unanimous.
[3:15] >> Chair Jefferson: from what I
[3:22] understand for item 4b and that
[3:23] is to commemorate the life and
[3:24] legacy of gerald e. Connolly,
[3:25] supervisor bailey, you want to
[3:29] take a picture with everyone?
[3:30] >> Andrea Bailey: with your
[3:30] permission.
[3:34] >> Chair Jefferson: yes.
[3:35] What we can do is we will go
[3:36] through all of these and take a
[3:37] photo and we will hold for b we
[3:43] will hold for the very end.
[3:44] > Andrea Bailey: if I made
[3:47] make a request on that.
[3:48] Misses, I'm not sure mrs.
[3:49] conley is in the audience yet
[3:51] and karen is outside waiting
[3:51] for her.
[3:52] So if we could take her last.
[4:02] >> Chair Jefferson: that's what
[4:02] I am saying.
[4:03] We will take those last.
[4:04] So I'm going to go down and you
[4:04] have a couple of here,
[4:05] supervisor bailey.
[4:06] If you could join me for 4c and
[4:09] then you will come down one
[4:43] supervisor, lisa families here.
[4:44] Do we have representatives from
[4:45] mount olive baptist church
[5:03] here?
[5:04] Thank you for coming.
[5:05] >> Chair Jefferson: commend
[5:05] mount olive baptist church on
[5:11] their 110th anniversary.
[5:12] Mount olive was founded in
[5:13] woodbridge virginia on OCTOBER
[5:13] 17, 1915 by members of the
[5:14] mission sunday school.
[5:17] Since MARCH 3, 2001 mount olive
[5:21] baptist church has been led by
[5:22] reverend ellis who created
[5:23] pioneering and progressive
[5:39] ministries to develop the
[5:40] membership of the church on is
[5:41] truly dedicated and determined
[5:42] to lead his flock by example.
[5:43] Under the spiritual guidance of
[5:44] reverend ellis, not all of
[5:44] continues its growth as a
[5:45] church, as one family that
[5:46] believes in caring, sharing and
[5:46] loving.
[5:52] Over the course of its
[5:53] long history, the mount olive
[5:54] baptist church congregation has
[5:55] navigated through rough seas,
[5:56] dark nights and is faced the
[5:57] tempest and many storms, but
[5:58] through adult they learn to
[5:58] trust in their faith in one
[6:00] another.
[6:01] Therefore today the prince
[6:02] william county board of
[6:03] supervisors hereby commends the
[6:03] congregation amount all the
[6:04] baptist church on its 110th
[6:05] anniversary.
[6:10] Reverend ellis, do you have any
[6:10] words for us?
[6:11] Knowing you are a pastor.
[6:15] Let's keep it brief.
[6:15] >> it's dangerous
[6:16] to give a
[6:17] pastor a microphone.
[6:24] Thank you so much
[6:26] .
[6:27] Thank you CHAIRMAN Jefferson
[6:27] then to the prince william
[6:29] county board of supervisors on
[6:29] those who are present.
[6:30] Thank you so much for this
[6:36] honor.
[6:37] I always saw myself as a
[6:38] football player, obviously not
[6:38] in statute.
[6:39] Meaning is a pastor you get to
[6:40] be face of the congregation,
[6:41] but in reality he represents
[6:42] some dedicated and faithful
[6:43] people who are of course not
[6:47] here today.
[6:48] So I want to say thank you for
[6:49] recognizing and honoring the
[6:50] memory, the faith, and the
[6:51] courage little known to many
[6:52] people
[6:58] , the chin family members
[6:58] establishment all the baptist
[6:59] church.
[6:59] Nd of course the name
[7:04] mary jane graces are aquatic in
[7:04] library.
[7:05] It was her children who start
[7:07] amount all the baptist church
[7:08] and whose shoulders I now stand
[7:15] upon.
[7:16] With the assistance of the
[7:17] neabsco baptist church, all of
[7:18] us had a part in this community
[7:19] OCTOBER 17, 1915.
[7:19] So thank you all so much for
[7:21] honoring us.
[7:22] And I'm just so privileged to
[7:25] accept this on behalf of know
[7:26] all of baptist church
[7:31] congregation.
[7:31] Thank you so much.
[7:32] [Applause]
[7:32] >> Chair Jefferson: and then we
[7:33] will take a quick photo.
[7:55] >> Chair Jefferson: we are
[7:56] going to hold 4b and then 4c
[7:57] said, supervisor bailey, if you
[8:01] would come down for that.
[8:02] And anyone associated with the
[8:04] family caregivers proclamation
[8:04] .
[8:08] National family caregivers
[8:08] month, please come to the
[8:21] podium.
[8:22] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you
[8:22] MADAM Chair.
[8:23] It's a pleasure to do this
[8:24] today.
[8:30] As a caregiver for my mom, it's
[8:31] always a blessing first of all
[8:32] to be a caregiver but to
[8:33] acknowledge those who focus on
[8:36] the art and the prayerful
[8:44] service of caregiving.
[8:45] So with that, family caregivers
[8:46] are the backbone of our
[8:47] communities providing
[8:47] compassion and care and
[8:48] unwavering support to loved
[8:51] ones who are aging, ill, or
[8:54] living with disabilities.
[8:55] They provide billions of hours
[9:01] of unpaid care every year.
[9:02] Often balancing work, family
[9:03] life and health challenges
[9:04] along the way
[9:04] .
[9:05] NOVEMBER is recognized
[9:07] nationally as a family
[9:08] caregivers month
[9:08] , time to
[9:11] celebrate the selfless
[9:12] dedication
[9:15] , strength, and
[9:16] commitment and love of millions
[9:18] of americans who care for
[9:20] family members and friends
[9:22] .
[9:24] my recognizing national family
[9:32] caregivers month, we shine a
[9:33] light on their experiences and
[9:34] provided direct pathway to the
[9:35] resources, community, and
[9:36] support they deserve.
[9:36] Therefore today, the prince
[9:37] william county board of
[9:42] supervisors hereby proclaims
[9:43] NOVEMBER 2025 as national
[9:45] family caregivers month in
[9:46] prince william county.
[9:46] Congratulations
[9:58] .
[9:58] >> good afternoon manager
[9:59] jefferson the members of the
[9:59] board.
[10:00] Director of social services.
[10:01] Today I have with me my deputy
[10:07] director
[10:09] , [Name] The assistant
[10:09] director or advocacy prevention
[10:10] and protection better known as
[10:12] app.
[10:16] Josh is here from aging.
[10:18] And laura
[10:18] .
[10:20] Don.
[10:21] Thank you.
[10:22] Adult daycare.
[10:23] Great.
[10:26] Thank you.
[10:27] We are here today to jointly
[10:33] accept this proclamation.
[10:34] Caregivers, under their family
[10:35] members, friends and
[10:36] professional staff, give
[10:36] extraordinary support older
[10:37] adult, individuals with
[10:39] disabilities and those who
[10:42] cannot care for themselves.
[10:43] I understand the importance of
[10:44] the roll and responsibility of
[10:46] being a caretaker.
[10:51] As I was my mother's caretaker
[10:52] for several years at the age of
[10:53] 23 after she had a massive
[10:54] stroke.
[10:58] Sometimes as caregivers you MAY
[10:58] feel forgotten as a lotta
[10:59] emphasis MAY be placed on
[11:01] individuals who are new to
[11:02] care.
[11:03] The love and commitment and
[11:04] support that is provided is
[11:05] very important much
[11:07] appreciated.
[11:13] I would like to thank ras team,
[11:14] in-home providers, community
[11:16] partners and friends of family
[11:16] who show up every day to
[11:20] provide support and care.
[11:21] Thank you again for this
[11:22] proclamation in your continued
[11:26] support to allow us to serve
[11:27] constituents of the county.
[11:33] [Applause]
[11:34] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[12:52] Let's go take a photo.
[12:53] >> Chair Jefferson: next we
[12:53] have 4e to proclaim NOVEMBER
[12:54] 2029 small business saturday.
[12:55] Will everyone associated with
[12:56] small business saturday please
[13:00] come forward?
[13:01] Do we have economic development
[13:09] here?
[13:09] All right.
[13:10] I will go ahead and read it.
[13:11] Small business saturday
[13:12] celebrated annual between black
[13:12] friday and cyber monday is a
[13:13] day dedicated to supporting the
[13:27] small businesses that help
[13:28] create jobs, boost the economy,
[13:29] and keep communities thriving
[13:30] across the country.
[13:31] Since 2010 small business
[13:32] saturday has illustrated the
[13:32] significance of supporting
[13:33] small independently owned
[13:34] businesses across the country.
[13:35] Prince william county through
[13:36] the county department of
[13:37] economic development is
[13:38] committed to supporting small
[13:39] businesses to grading jobs and
[13:40] to preserving our communities
[13:42] unique culture prince william
[13:43] county small business program
[13:45] established in DECEMBER 2019
[13:50] has assistant small businesses
[13:50] to great when and 63 milena p
[13:51] prince william county is
[13:53] joining local governments
[13:54] throughout the country to
[13:55] acknowledge and celebrate small
[13:57] business saturday.
[13:58] Therefore today the prince
[13:59] william county board of
[14:08] supervisors hereby proclaim
[14:09] saturday, NOVEMBER 29, 2025 a
[14:10] small business saturday and
[14:11] encourages our community
[14:11] support small businesses on
[14:12] small business saturday and
[14:16] throughout the year.
[14:17] Going to go international
[14:17] adoption date and then we will
[14:24] get back to 4b.
[14:25] With everyone associated with
[14:26] national adoption date please
[14:48] come forward?
[14:49] All right.
[14:49] Prince william county
[14:50] recognizes the importance of
[14:52] giving children permanent,
[14:52] safe, and loving families to
[14:53] adoption.
[14:54] More than 100,000 children and
[14:58] the nazis foster care system
[14:58] are waiting to be adopted.
[14:59] More than 800 children in the
[15:04] virginia foster care system are
[15:05] waiting to be adopted in more
[15:05] than 15 children in the prince
[15:06] william county foster care
[15:11] system have or have the goal of
[15:11] adoption.
[15:12] To help these children find
[15:16] permanent nurturing families
[15:17] ,
[15:18] the local courts of the 31st
[15:19] judicial district will open
[15:19] their doors to celebrate
[15:22] national adoption day saturday,
[15:23] NOVEMBER 22, 2025, to finalize
[15:26] a mechanized the adoptions of
[15:27] local children and join other
[15:28] organizations to celebrate all
[15:31] adoptions
[15:32] .
[15:33] Therefore today the prince
[15:34] william county board of
[15:35] supervisors hereby joins the
[15:36] department of social services
[15:37] proclaiming NOVEMBER 22, 2025,
[15:41] as national adoption day.
[15:42] Prince william county will
[15:44] celebrate NOVEMBER 22, 2025.
[15:45] Prince william county will
[15:48] continue to urge all citizens
[15:50] to join in a national effort to
[15:51] raise awareness about the
[15:54] importance of adoption.
[15:55] Do you have any words he would
[16:02] like to say?
[16:03] >> good afternoon again MADAM
[16:04] Chair and members of the board.
[16:10] Director of social services.
[16:11] Today I have with me my team,
[16:16] deputy director holly handy,
[16:18] jessica Mccauley who is
[16:19] assistant director of family
[16:19] support
[16:20] services, diane human
[16:21] services manager, fan support
[16:24] services unit and cheryl
[16:27] Mcmullen who is a services
[16:27] caseworker.
[16:33] Both for the adoption program.
[16:33] Prince william county
[16:35] department of social services
[16:36] is proud of the work we do to
[16:39] promote safety for children for
[16:45] whom we serve and protect.
[16:45] It is our thought children who
[16:46] live in permanent homes, caring
[16:47] adoptive parents have an
[16:48] opportunity to thrive and grow
[16:50] into healthy adults.
[16:51] Adoption is an alternative that
[16:52] provides family life for
[16:59] children who can biological
[16:59] parents.
[16:59] T provides an
[17:00] opportunity for those children
[17:02] to find forever homes
[17:02] .
[17:02] We all desire to be connected
[17:05] to someone, and family is the
[17:06] foundation that keeps us with
[17:08] it.
[17:09] This saturday is mentioned
[17:12] NOVEMBER 22 we will celebrate
[17:13] our 22nd national adoption date
[17:18] and recognize nine families
[17:19] that will become a forever home
[17:19] for a child
[17:19] .
[17:25] I'm hoping you will be able to
[17:26] celebrate with us.
[17:27] I am proud to accept the
[17:28] proclamation on behalf of the
[17:31] department
[17:34] , and as always, we
[17:35] thank you for your continued
[17:35] support and the recognition for
[17:36] the work that we do.
[17:36] Thank you.
[17:41] [Applause]
[17:42] >> Chair Jefferson: let's go
[18:24] ahead and take another photo.
[18:25] All right.
[18:29] And supervisor bailey
[18:29] , if you
[18:33] and MRS. Connolly can come up
[18:33] and anyone else you have and
[18:36] then we will take a picture for
[18:48] this out in the atrium.
[18:50] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you
[18:58] MADAM Chair.
[18:59] It is the excitement and great
[19:00] joy I present this to our
[19:01] citizens today.
[19:02] On behalf of our friend jerry
[19:02] connolly.
[19:07] Congressman gerald e. Connolly
[19:07] ,
[19:11] jerry as we know him, dedicated
[19:12] his life to public service
[19:13] representing the people of
[19:22] northern virginia with vision,
[19:22] integrity, love, and an
[19:23] unwavering commitment to the
[19:23] common good.
[19:24] Is a member of the united
[19:25] states house of representatives
[19:26] for virginia's 11th
[19:28] congressional district,
[19:29] congressman connolly worked
[19:30] tirelessly to ensure prince
[19:33] william county in the entire
[19:35] northern virginia region
[19:36] received a strong federal
[19:39] advocacy on critical issues
[19:40] such as transportation
[19:41] infrastructure
[19:42] , economic
[19:44] development
[19:46] , veteran services,
[19:52] and public education.
[19:53] He was instrumental in
[19:54] advancing regional
[19:55] transportation initiatives such
[19:56] as improvements to the I-95
[19:59] corridor
[19:59] , expansion of the
[20:03] virginia railway express
[20:03] , and
[20:04] the extension of mass transit
[20:06] options
[20:06] .
[20:12] Enhancing mobility and economic
[20:13] opportunity for residents of
[20:13] prince william county.
[20:14] Congressman connolly was a
[20:15] tireless advocate for public
[20:20] service, federal employees, and
[20:22] military families recognizing
[20:23] their contributions to the
[20:24] nation and ensuring prince
[20:26] william county
[20:27] , home to the
[20:30] thousands of these individuals,
[20:33] was well represented and well
[20:39] served.
[20:39] And therefore today the prince
[20:40] william county board of county
[20:43] supervisors hereby commends,
[20:46] honors, and remembers
[20:48] congressman gerald e. Connolly
[20:50] for his exemplary public
[20:54] service, his steadfast advocacy
[20:54] for the people of northern
[20:58] virginia, and his enduring
[20:59] contributions to the progress
[21:02] and prosperity of prince
[21:03] william county.
[21:08] Is wife, ladies and gentlemen.
[21:09] [Applause]
[21:12] >> thank you very much
[21:14] supervisor bailey.
[21:15] Thank you MADAM CHAIRMAN and
[21:22] all the members of the board
[21:22] and supervisors.
[21:23] And bring greetings from my
[21:24] daughter who you don't want to
[21:25] have in person because she is
[21:25] sick.
[21:27] We both thank you for this
[21:34] recognition, this honor
[21:34] .
[21:35] You should know one of the
[21:36] saddest days of jerry's life
[21:37] was when he was redistricted
[21:40] out of prince william county.
[21:41] He loved this community and he
[21:42] loved spending time here with
[21:44] you all.
[21:44] Friday marks six months since
[21:50] he passed.
[21:51] Jerry was fundamentally as a
[21:52] human being and as a public
[21:57] servant others centered.
[21:57] When he asked you how are you,
[22:04] how are you doing, he actually
[22:05] wanted to hear the answered.
[22:06] It mattered to him.
[22:06] It matter that if you had a
[22:07] problem
[22:09] , if you had an issue,
[22:11] mother regardless of your party
[22:11] or your circumstances, you are
[22:14] a constituent of his or even
[22:15] somebody he worked with or were
[22:22] new that he was able to help.
[22:22] He would step in to try to make
[22:29] a difference.
[22:30] Jerry understood what my needs
[22:31] are, what my once are do not
[22:35] help further our country or
[22:36] democracy.
[22:39] He understood public service is
[22:40] about the other.
[22:46] They
[22:47] understood that effectiveness
[22:47] mattered.
[22:48] That getting elected was just
[22:49] getting the job.
[22:50] then you had to do it once he
[22:52] were elected.
[22:58] I cannot thank you enough for
[22:58] this honor.
[22:59] You all hold a special place in
[23:00] our hearts as well.
[23:00] Nd I want
[23:05] to also thank you for the work
[23:06] you do as others centered
[23:06] public servants.
[23:13] You make a difference.
[23:13] Please keep up the good work
[23:14] and in jerry's name, in your
[23:15] own names, it doesn't matter.
[23:22] In the publix name it matters.
[23:22] Thank you so much.
[23:23] [Applause]
[23:23] >> Chair Jefferson: I would
[23:24] like to invite all the board
[23:25] members to come down for this
[23:58] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[23:59] everyone.
[23:59] We are moving to agenda item
[24:00] number five and that is the
[24:01] consent agenda.
[24:10] I wanted to
[24:11] see if there was anyone on the
[24:12] board who would like to pull
[24:13] anything off from the consent
[24:13] agenda?
[24:17] Supervisor vega
[24:18] .
[24:18] >> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM
[24:19] Chair.
[24:21] Item 5n
[24:21] .
[24:23] >> Chair Jefferson: 5n as in
[24:25] nancy.
[24:27] Anyone else?
[24:31] All right.
[24:32] Seeing none I would like to get
[24:33] a motion.
[24:40] Hold on.
[24:41] You don't know what I could be
[24:42] asking for a motion for.
[24:43] I would like a motion from 5a
[24:53] through 5m and 50 through 5e.
[24:53] It has been moved and properly
[24:54] second in.
[24:56] Any discussion on these items.
[24:59] >> Tom Gordy: 5w as the last
[25:03] .
[25:05] >> Chair Jefferson: 5n
[25:05] .
[25:07] 5w.
[25:09] Did you want to pull that?
[25:19] >> it has been withdrawn.
[25:24] That one has been withdrawn.
[25:25] Supervisor angry.
[25:28] >> Victor Angry: real quick
[25:29] on 50
[25:33] , q, r we have been
[25:34] talking about the courts
[25:39] district and we are in the
[25:45] phases where the pain starts.
[25:45] We are going to start seeing a
[25:46] lot of movement of dirt,
[25:47] trucks, construction signs.
[25:48] Again, if you don't need to be
[25:50] in the area of prince william
[25:54] pkwy.
[25:55] , find alternates.
[25:56] I hate to put it that way but
[25:57] this is going to get on until
[26:04] we get the construction done.
[26:05] Of course you know it is high
[26:06] which is a single-point urban
[26:06] interchange.
[26:06] Copyright.
[26:07] Okay.
[26:07] That road is a major
[26:10] construction road because we
[26:12] heard and I heard that when we
[26:17] do developments we don't
[26:17] improve.
[26:18] You are going to see parkway
[26:21] going under many ville.
[26:22] We have already had one town
[26:22] hall meeting on this and we
[26:23] will be having another real
[26:25] soon because the next phase we
[26:27] are in.
[26:33] If you are not on my email list
[26:34] I would ask for folks listening
[26:35] in, shoot me an email, go to
[26:38] the website neabsco news.Org.
[26:38] Get on the list so you can come
[26:41] out in here all the changes
[26:43] that have taken place and
[26:43] really be a part of the
[26:48] discussion, any questions you
[26:49] have that we could answer.
[26:50] This is going to take a couple
[26:52] of years, but at the end of all
[26:53] of this he will be -- what we
[26:55] have.
[27:07] Thank you MADAM Chair.
[27:08] >> Chair Jefferson: does anyone
[27:09] else want to comment on
[27:10] anything?
[27:10] Supervisor bailey.
[27:11] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you
[27:12] MADAM Chair.
[27:12] I just want to thank our fire
[27:13] department facilities
[27:15] department for the movement on
[27:15] fire stations happen.
[27:16] Every incremental movement is
[27:16] great.
[27:21] Might appreciate you keeping an
[27:22] eye on the prize making sure
[27:27] the fire station is there.
[27:27] In terms of public safety and
[27:28] taking care of our citizens.
[27:30] Thank you MADAM Chair.
[27:31] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[27:31] very much.
[27:32] I would like to go ahead and
[27:36] call the vote.
[27:36] >> cote unanimous.
[27:41] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[27:42] We are now going to go to 5n.
[27:48] Supervisor vega
[27:52] .
[27:52] >> Yesli Vega: I understand we
[27:53] are voting to authorize the
[27:54] public hearing.
[27:55] Still remain
[27:56] fundamentally opposed to this
[27:57] initiative even starting so I
[27:58] wanted to see that for the
[27:58] record.
[27:59] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[27:59] Thank you.
[28:00] Are there any additional
[28:00] speakers?
[28:01] If not I would like to get a
[28:03] motion on 5n.
[28:04] It has been properly moved and
[28:06] seconded.
[28:07] any discussion?
[28:09] All right.
[28:11] Let's go ahead and take a vote
[28:16] on that item.
[28:16] >> motion passes 7/1 supervisor
[28:23] vega voting no.
[28:24] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[28:25] Think is a very much.
[28:27] We are moving to agenda item 6
[28:27] and that is public comment
[28:27] time.
[28:31] I already have a sign-up sheet.
[28:32] Going to call people up in
[28:32] groups of five.
[28:36] When I ask people that everyone
[28:37] in the board room please take a
[28:37] seat.
[28:45] So going to have -- and I
[28:46] apologize if I cannot make out
[28:49] the handwriting.
[28:50] Leave fay jones, brian landrum,
[29:00] ron sachs, chris bley zia and
[29:01] so everyone a few general
[29:07] pointers make sure you speak
[29:08] quickly and to the microphone.
[29:09] On the screen it will have a
[29:09] much time you have.
[29:10] Please begin by stating your
[29:13] name on the magisterial
[29:17] district where you reside.
[29:18] >> good afternoon.
[29:19] My name is leif e jones and I
[29:23] reside down the street.
[29:24] I am new to this
[29:29] .
[29:29] The only comment that I wanted
[29:34] to make is in reference to I
[29:39] guess 7f with the kings grove
[29:40] that is potentially going to be
[29:40] here on
[29:43] the corner.
[29:44] My only concern with that is
[29:49] the entry way to that facility
[29:54] .
[29:55] I would recommend the only
[29:58] entryway to that facility is
[30:01] going to be on black forest
[30:02] lane, not prince will then
[30:03] parkway because prince will
[30:13] deem are quite is already a
[30:13] backlog trying to
[30:14] be in that
[30:14] right-hand lane.
[30:15] That is really my only comment
[30:16] .
[30:17] I don't know how the process
[30:19] works but I did want to give my
[30:22] opinion on that.
[30:28] >> Chair Jefferson: generally I
[30:28] will just give you -- the
[30:29] public comment time you can
[30:30] speak.
[30:32] What you are referring to is
[30:32] 7f.
[30:34] We have a separate process for
[30:42] that
[30:43] .
[30:44] If you want you can speak again
[30:44] and
[30:44] that time or if you are
[30:45] finished with the comments and
[30:46] are satisfied you don't have to
[30:47] speak again.
[30:51] >> that is my, unless you speak
[30:52] to something.
[30:52] >> Chair Jefferson: I like
[30:53] that.
[30:56] Next speaker.
[31:00] >> brian landrum, gainesville
[31:02] district
[31:02] .
[31:03] MADAM Chair and supervisors,
[31:07] thank you for the opportunity
[31:08] to speak today on behalf of the
[31:09] architecture review board about
[31:10] agenda item 10 c the request
[31:30] for $85,000 out of cycle
[31:31] funding to develop the overlay
[31:32] district design guidelines.
[31:33] Thank you to the board for your
[31:34] commitment to historic
[31:35] preservation including the
[31:36] recent purchase of ongoing
[31:37] rehabilitation of the williams
[31:38] goss house and the net
[31:39] distiller home and thank you
[31:39] supervisor for your
[31:40] leadership
[31:41] securing that funding and
[31:41] moving the project forward.
[31:43] it's a once in a generation
[31:44] opportunity to preserve an
[31:45] incredible piece of our shared
[31:45] history.
[31:46] Our county should be proud of
[31:47] frank washington on the
[31:48] thoroughfare community for
[31:51] working diligently to ensure
[31:52] future generations have the
[32:02] opportunity to experience the
[32:03] rich history represented there.
[32:04] These design guidelines are
[32:05] critical piece of the overlay
[32:06] district project and out of
[32:07] cycle funding is key to
[32:09] ensuring it stays on schedule
[32:10] pickup respect we request you
[32:11] approve item 10 c on the out of
[32:11] cycle
[32:11] funding request for
[32:12] the
[32:12] thoroughfare design guidelines.
[32:13] Thank you very much.
[32:14] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[32:16] Next speaker, please.
[32:17] >> Public Speaker: I'm chris,
[32:19] brentsville district.
[32:20] Thanks for letting me speak and
[32:21] I do want to apologize to the
[32:22] board.
[32:35] I am a debbie downer.
[32:36] I haven't been at
[32:36] these meetings
[32:37] because I do travel a lot.
[32:38] But I just recently got laid
[32:38] off.
[32:39] As well as many other people in
[32:39] virginia.
[32:40] I just want to mention to the
[32:41] board, priorities.
[32:41] E are all
[32:45] prince with them county
[32:45] residents.
[32:46] And I say that because I get
[32:47] all these mailings and flyers
[32:51] about data centers, personal
[32:54] property taxes
[32:55] .
[32:56] I'm hoping the board has
[32:57] priorities over this because
[32:59] now I am hearing data centers
[33:02] are taking public locations
[33:08] like retail or nurseries and
[33:08] providing lots of money to
[33:15] build data centers.
[33:16] I didn't know that was prince
[33:17] williams goals or directives.
[33:18] I'm sorry I didn't make any
[33:18] meetings because I am
[33:19] supporting my family every day.
[33:21] There's a lot of state
[33:22] .
[33:26] I flight a lot.
[33:27] And I know there are probably a
[33:28] lot of other objectives the
[33:29] board can work with other
[33:33] politicians.
[33:34] I am sure we can get rid of
[33:37] property tax in general we know
[33:43] it goes in the general fund.
[33:44] And I just want the board to
[33:49] put priorities that the prince
[33:50] william property tax.
[33:51] These are all the things you
[33:52] mentioned running for office so
[33:54] I would really like that to be
[33:54] a priority.
[33:55] Thank you for your time.
[34:00] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[34:01] Next speaker, please.
[34:02] >> Public Speaker: I'm ron.
[34:08] I live in the -- district and I
[34:09] guess I am talking to all of
[34:09] the
[34:10] board members.
[34:10] Ecently we
[34:13] lost a bus stop.
[34:14] >> Chair Jefferson: can you
[34:17] move the microphone closer?
[34:23] We can barely hear you.
[34:24] >> Public Speaker: anyway, we
[34:26] lost a bus stop.
[34:31] Two weeks
[34:36] , woodbridge high
[34:37] school, fred lynn student and
[34:38] occoquan elementary
[34:42] students.
[34:42] They did not have any
[34:43] information that they had
[34:47] eliminated this bus stop.
[34:49] i tried to get in contact with
[34:50] them
[34:52] .
[34:54] Their computers were down
[34:57] .
[34:58] And radical with the telephone.
[35:00] No response
[35:04] .
[35:05] I don't understand think they
[35:06] been there for 60 years.
[35:07] I
[35:15] collect cans and I go ahead and
[35:16] give the money to the kids when
[35:17] they get off the bus at the end
[35:18] of the school year so they want
[35:20] opportunity to go swimming at
[35:22] hammer mill pool.
[35:23] This year was six dollars
[35:24] .
[35:28] But anyway, one of the problems
[35:31] is the eliminated.
[35:32] They are not going to put it
[35:36] back.
[35:37] I know we got information a
[35:40] couple years ago that they are
[35:40] changing the times of the bus
[35:41] stop
[35:42] .
[35:49] It was on the paperwork of MR.
[35:50] Lint.
[35:50] He is the principle of occoquan
[35:55] school.
[35:55] He is not the one that
[35:56] initiates this.
[35:57] Do you want everyone to call
[35:57] MR. Lint the principal about
[35:58] the bus stop times?
[36:01] It's crazy.
[36:03] Whoever the entity was was made
[36:03] anonymous.
[36:07] We want the bus
[36:09] stop back.
[36:11] What is a child's life worth.
[36:17] And then have people going up
[36:17] to kilby.
[36:18] They are
[36:18] walking up these hills
[36:19] I see, snowy.
[36:22] I don't understand
[36:22] .
[36:26] have you ever pushed a carriage
[36:30] up a hill with two kids?
[36:36] I mean, it's difficult.
[36:37] I don't know how you feel about
[36:38] it, but can you even read and
[36:40] write?
[36:41] The declaration of independence
[36:43] was written
[36:43] .
[36:45] Does no more writing in the
[36:46] public schools.
[36:49] What's going
[36:49] on?
[36:54] I'm blessed I went to a private
[36:54] school.
[36:55] Catholic school.
[36:55] My time is running out.
[36:58] Thank you for the time and good
[37:01] luck on the valley drive.
[37:02] >> Chair Jefferson: thank
[37:02] you so
[37:07] very much.
[37:08] We are going to be moving on to
[37:09] promote public
[37:09] comment time and
[37:10] I ask people, if you would
[37:21] like to please have a seat.
[37:22] Supervisor bailey, do we have
[37:22] anyone signed up.
[37:23] >> Andrea Bailey: we do,
[37:23] MADAM Chair.
[37:25] Re we ready?
[37:30] [Inaudible]
[37:31] I don't have anybody online as
[37:34] of right now
[37:36] .
[37:37] >> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[37:38] MADAM Chair, back to you.
[37:40] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[37:40] so very much.
[37:41] We are going to move to agenda
[37:42] item number seven and that is
[37:45] public hearings.
[37:46] Before I opened the public
[37:46] hearings I want to see if
[37:47] anyone on the dais had any
[37:49] questions or wanted any
[37:54] clarification.
[37:55] Supervisor boddye.
[37:56] >> Kenny Boddye: before we get
[37:59] to the public hearings
[38:01] ,
[38:02] supervisor angry and I have
[38:02] something we have to read.
[38:03] Before the board holds a public
[38:10] hearing and consider some votes
[38:11] on item 7a which budget and
[38:12] appropriate school board
[38:12] carryover funds, I need to
[38:13] declare a personal interest in
[38:14] this matter.
[38:14] School employee my wife is a
[38:15] school employee.
[38:19] The my wife and I are members
[38:20] of a group affected by this
[38:21] matter.
[38:22] We are participating because I
[38:22] know we can do so fairly,
[38:23] objectively and in the public
[38:24] interest.
[38:25] >> Kenny Boddye: before the
[38:26] board holds a public hearing
[38:37] and vote on item 7a which
[38:38] budget and appropriate school
[38:39] board carryover funds I need to
[38:40] declare personal interest in
[38:40] the matter.
[38:41] My wife is a school employee.
[38:42] Is a schools employee my wife
[38:49] and I are members of a group
[38:50] affected by this matter.
[38:51] I will be participating in this
[38:52] matter because I am able to do
[38:53] so fairly, objectively, and in
[38:53] the public interest.
[38:54] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[38:55] so very much.
[38:55] Supervisor franklin?
[38:56] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[38:57] well, I wanted to separate out
[38:57] items.
[38:58] I'm not sure if we are there
[38:58] yet.
[38:59] Want to separate out 7c.
[39:06] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[39:06] All right.
[39:08] Actually, what I'm going to do
[39:10] is I'm going to open the public
[39:12] hearing for everything and then
[39:17] we will take 7c separately.
[39:17] all right.
[39:18] I'm going to open the public
[39:22] hearing for seven a through f
[39:22] .
[39:23] Right now I have two people
[39:27] signed up to speak.
[39:28] The rules are you have similar
[39:29] to public comment time you have
[39:29] three
[39:30] minutes.
[39:38] The timer is going to be on the
[39:38] screen.
[39:39] If you're speaking as a
[39:40] representative for a recognized
[39:41] group, 501(C)(3), you have up
[39:43] to five minutes
[39:43] .
[39:44] I have two people currently
[39:44] signed up.
[39:45] Again, state your name and
[39:46] where you resign.
[39:56] I have miriam and paula.
[39:57] If you both make your way up to
[40:01] the back.
[40:07] Right over there.
[40:09] >> my name is miriam.
[40:12] I am here to speak on the kings
[40:15] grove development.
[40:16] >> Chair Jefferson: if you
[40:22] could step into the microphone.
[40:23] >> Public Speaker: I am a
[40:24] homeowner in the reeds prospect
[40:27] hoa which is across the street
[40:28] from where this development is
[40:28] being planned.
[40:29] I have been a homeowner there
[40:35] for 12 years
[40:35] .
[40:35] We have concerns about a
[40:36] growing trend we have seen in
[40:38] residential development in
[40:39] which the integration of rental
[40:40] apartment units into hoa under
[40:45] the broad a misleading label of
[40:48] multifamily housing units
[40:48] .
[40:49] We believe some developers MAY
[40:54] be using the terminology to
[40:55] obscure their true intent,
[40:55] introducing rental units to
[40:56] traditionally owner-occupied
[41:02] communities.
[41:03] This practice not only misleads
[41:04] potential homeowners but can
[41:05] also compromise their voting
[41:05] rights and influence within the
[41:07] hoa.
[41:07] So this is what has happened
[41:08] with reeds prospect which is
[41:11] right across the street.
[41:12] It was originally developed to
[41:12] include 200 condo unit
[41:13] .
[41:17] That is what was approved by
[41:20] the board of supervisors in 314
[41:21] single family homes and
[41:24] townhouses
[41:24] .
[41:25] Those units were later
[41:25] transitioned into apartment
[41:29] units
[41:30] , but the documents that
[41:31] were drafted by the same law
[41:32] firm representing this
[41:32] development here
[41:32] , which is the
[41:37] law firm of walsh belushi,
[41:38] billy and walsh, drafted our
[41:39] documents in such a misleading
[41:42] manner so that now the 200
[41:46] apartment units have 200 votes
[41:47] in our hoa which are cast by
[41:50] one person.
[41:50] So the entire time I lived
[41:57] there are hoa has been
[41:58] effectively, practically, and
[41:59] absolutely controlled by the
[42:00] interests of one person.
[42:01] Our hoa has put together
[42:06] several collective actions
[42:07] because we do have more votes
[42:08] in the 200 but you can imagine
[42:12] in our community we are a group
[42:13] of homeowners, many thorough
[42:15] workers for folks who don't
[42:22] have english as their first
[42:23] language so that kind of
[42:24] collective action problem.
[42:25] This represents a petition we
[42:26] have worked to get signed as
[42:27] well as proxy votes to try to
[42:29] reclaim our voting rights this
[42:33] has been met
[42:34] , led by an hoa
[42:34] attorney which they have hired
[42:38] using their own funds to spend
[42:42] $70,000 rejecting our efforts
[42:42] this year.
[42:43] So my concern regarding this
[42:43] community.
[42:48] We met last year with kenny
[42:48] boddye office.
[42:49] They said there's nothing we
[42:50] can do to help with this
[42:51] because this is a ready been
[42:52] developed and plan.
[42:56] My concern is having forward
[42:57] when I look at the description
[43:02] of these multifamily units
[43:02] , two
[43:03] over to mixed with attached
[43:04] townhouses, my concern is you
[43:08] guys protect homeowners who
[43:08] make sure they can have the
[43:12] same thing happened to them but
[43:13] this is not a business deal for
[43:15] us as it is the apartments,
[43:16] this is our personal
[43:17] investment.
[43:18] >> Chair Jefferson: next
[43:28] speaker, please.
[43:29] >> Public Speaker: I and paula
[43:34] kaiser with occoquan district.
[43:35] I just want to discuss the
[43:39] kings grove.
[43:40] Last time kings grove was
[43:47] brought to the planning meeting
[43:48] there were several people who
[43:48] spoke on the problem, the
[43:51] issues with the schools
[43:52] , the
[43:52] traffic, congestion on the
[43:55] parkway.
[43:56] What I am here for is about the
[43:58] dog park being adjacent to the
[44:05] well house that is next door
[44:05] .
[44:06] I haven't heard on any of these
[44:07] issues.
[44:10] I don't know what is planned to
[44:18] address any of those issues.
[44:19] That is just what I wanted to
[44:19] say.
[44:20] Thank you.
[44:21] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[44:22] so very much.
[44:22] Do we have anyone signed up to
[44:26] speak remotely?
[44:27] >> Andrea Bailey: I have one
[44:27] person.
[44:31] Do we have anyone on remote?
[44:31] >> we do not have anyone on
[44:31] remote.
[44:32] >> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[44:35] Thank you.
[44:36] >> Chair Jefferson: I would
[44:37] like to close the public
[44:42] hearings for seven a through f.
[44:43] I would also like to request I
[44:44] believe the first speaker said
[44:44] she had a petition.
[44:45] If you would like to share it
[44:46] with the clerk?
[44:48] Okay.
[44:49] Thank you.
[44:53] All right.
[45:04] For agenda item seven I have a
[45:05] request to pull off 7c and e.
[45:06] And so we are going to take
[45:07] those up individually and
[45:11] separately.
[45:12] Does anyone on the board have
[45:12] questions because if not I
[45:13] would like to get a motion for
[45:14] 7a, b, e and f
[45:15] .
[45:15] >> Andrea Bailey: a move.
[45:16] >> Kenny Boddye: second.
[45:17] >> Chair Jefferson: properly
[45:18] moved and seconded.
[45:22] Going to discussion.
[45:23] >> Kenny Boddye: I didn't know
[45:24] where to jump in on that but I
[45:27] wanted to give -- to the
[45:28] response.
[45:29] >> Chair Jefferson: sorry.
[45:31] This is the consolidated land
[45:34] use
[45:34] .
[45:35] These are things that I've gone
[45:39] through expedited.
[45:40] So I would like to go ahead and
[45:41] have our discussion.
[45:51] Does any -- supervisor vega and
[45:52] then boddye.
[45:52] >> Yesli Vega: I have a few
[45:56] questions on item 7a.
[45:57] >> Chair Jefferson: hold on.
[45:58] Had asked earlier if anyone
[46:01] from the dais at any questions
[46:01] .
[46:05] Not a big deal.
[46:06] Would you like to withdraw your
[46:11] chance to speak?
[46:12] Supervisor boddye.
[46:12] >> Kenny Boddye:
[46:13] I just wanted
[46:14] to speak very quickly on 7f.
[46:18] Good to see you again.
[46:19] I know how you had more time I
[46:21] understand and I hear you.
[46:22] I know our offices and working
[46:27] with our state delegates on the
[46:28] state to try to work their
[46:30] common interests and I know it
[46:30] is frustrating because there's
[46:31] only so much we can do so I
[46:36] wanted to say first I hear you.
[46:37] But I know something you've
[46:38] been here before on is the
[46:39] signal light to speak to one of
[46:40] my other constituents, the
[46:44] traffic backing up all the way
[46:45] to the intersection there is
[46:46] real
[46:46] .
[46:51] We would be hopefully fixing
[46:52] that with the old bridge rd.
[46:52] In
[46:53] prince william parkway
[46:53] realignment.
[46:54] But with this will be putting
[46:57] in the signal that is supposed
[46:58] to have been there for
[46:59] quite a
[46:59] while.
[47:01] It will warrant it based on the
[47:01] traffic generation from kings
[47:06] grove
[47:06] .
[47:07] I know a lot of people who want
[47:08] to come out of reeds prospect
[47:11] and turn left currently are
[47:12] taking their lives into their
[47:16] own hands by doing so.
[47:16] Flashing yellow light, I don't
[47:17] know why they did that but we
[47:17] are aware we are with this
[47:20] kings grove project it would be
[47:23] a fully signalized intersection
[47:24] that would allow people to
[47:27] safely move through that more
[47:36] freely and more safely.
[47:37] This project does deliver 239
[47:37] homes in a time people are
[47:38] struggling to find homes that
[47:38] are affordable.
[47:42] It does obtain 24 new dwelling
[47:43] units per gefilte counties
[47:43] goals
[47:53] a mixed-use development.
[47:54] On that side of prince william
[47:55] pkwy. It is all commercial pick
[47:56] on the prospect site it's a
[47:56] mixed-use.
[47:57] On this site it is all
[47:58] commercial.
[48:00] When we talk about mixed use we
[48:00] are actually bringing the
[48:01] housing to that side to the
[48:02] parkway to deliver a real
[48:02] mixed-use area in that part.
[48:10] This makes a small but
[48:11] important step toward making
[48:12] the county more affordable and
[48:13] livable for close to this
[48:14] employment center here, close
[48:14] to retail, shopping.
[48:15] There are bookends on the
[48:25] parkway side and the hoadley
[48:25] side.
[48:26] This is the kind of place we
[48:27] want to see more housing.
[48:27] I wanted to say thank you to
[48:28] the applicant in
[48:29] planning staff
[48:30] working through this one and I
[48:31] will of course be supporting
[48:31] it.
[48:32] thank you MADAM Chair.
[48:33] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[48:35] bailey?
[48:35] >> Andrea Bailey: if you could
[48:36] remind me who hold item 7e.
[48:37] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[48:38] vega.
[48:38] >> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[48:46] Thank you very much.
[48:47] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[48:48] I don't see any other
[48:48] questions.
[48:49] We are going to take a vote for
[48:55] 7a, b, d and f.
[49:00] >> vote unanimously when we are
[49:03] going to move to agenda item
[49:03] 7c.
[49:04] Did you have any questions
[49:11] supervisor vega?
[49:11] That was c?
[49:12] Supervisor franklin.
[49:12] Okay.
[49:12] All right.
[49:15] So would like to entertain a
[49:22] motion for 7c did you have a
[49:24] question?
[49:25] >> George Stewart: I was going
[49:29] to make a motion.
[49:30] >> Chair Jefferson: it has been
[49:32] properly moved with and
[49:32] seconded.
[49:33] Supervisor franklin?
[49:34] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[49:39] generally have not been
[49:40] supportive of creating or
[49:40] expanding homebase gun
[49:41] businesses
[49:41] .
[49:43] And suggest keeping with that.
[49:46] I will be voting no
[49:46] .
[49:47] >> Chair Jefferson: any further
[49:47] discussion?
[49:52] I am simply going
[49:53] to abstain from this one.
[49:58] I recognize the applicant has a
[49:59] lot of support.
[49:59] And giving this more or less to
[50:01] keep a precedent.
[50:02] So I will go ahead and call for
[50:13] the vote.
[50:19] >> motion passes 5/2
[50:20] supervisors bailey and franklin
[50:21] voting no, chair jefferson
[50:28] abstaining from the vote.
[50:29] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[50:32] very much in the other item is
[50:32] 7e.
[50:33] >> Tom Gordy: moved to approve.
[50:34] >> Andrea Bailey: second.
[50:36] >> Chair Jefferson: any
[50:37] questions where discussion on
[50:37] this one?
[50:38] Supervisor vega.
[50:39] >> Yesli Vega: earlier this
[50:40] year we had a presentation from
[50:42] the chief and I know supervisor
[50:42] gordy, there has been some
[50:43] concern in regards to access to
[50:45] emergency services
[50:52] .
[50:53] And so I wanted at least some
[50:54] type of clarification in
[50:56] regards to what the plan is
[50:58] .
[50:59] It is my understanding based on
[51:01] the staff report that this does
[51:02] follow outside the four-minute
[51:02] travel time for emergency
[51:03] response and I just want to
[51:05] know what the plan is in
[51:09] regards to that.
[51:09] Not sure if it is for you or
[51:19] for alice to respond to.
[51:20] >> I will say we have a new
[51:21] fire station planned.
[51:22] It is programmed that is going
[51:33] to help mitigate this probably
[51:34] in the time from its
[51:34] construction for this
[51:35] development.
[51:35] It is on wellington road not
[51:36] more than two miles from its
[51:37] location that is going to help
[51:38] us solve the problem in the
[51:38] area.
[51:39] But I note it is pretty much in
[51:41] this entire area.
[51:45] We do desperately need more
[51:46] fire support and I know the
[51:46] chief, that is a priority for
[51:50] him.
[51:51] He has been working on getting
[51:52] the and the news station on
[51:53] wellington road is going to
[51:54] help us get that.
[51:57] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[51:58] Thank you so very much.
[51:59] If there is no further
[52:02] discussion I would like to get
[52:02] a motion.
[52:03] Sorry, we already have one on
[52:03] the floor
[52:03] .
[52:05] Since there is no further
[52:09] discussion, let's go ahead and
[52:11] take the vote.
[52:16] >> vote unanimous
[52:17] .
[52:19] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[52:19] Thank you so very much.
[52:20] We are now going to go to
[52:23] agenda item 8 and that is
[52:48] county executive time.
[52:51] >> MS. Roble:
[52:57] >> MR. Shorter: good afternoon.
[52:58] This is a bit of a surprise to
[52:59] the team but I wanted to use
[53:00] this as an opportunity to
[53:01] really give recognition to our
[53:03] transportation transformation
[53:04] management office.
[53:07] All of them behind me here in
[53:13] the board chambers of.
[53:13] They have two years ago this
[53:14] office was created.
[53:15] And I will tell you
[53:16] , they have
[53:20] become a model team and a model
[53:21] organization.
[53:21] We are getting calls from
[53:22] jurisdictions around the
[53:23] country and certainly here in
[53:24] the commonwealth about the work
[53:28] of transformation.
[53:29] They been responsible
[53:32] initiating 41 countywide
[53:34] projects
[53:35] .
[53:37] Nine community-based projects
[53:40] around the county and have been
[53:45] doing absolutely phenomenal
[53:45] work.
[53:45] I wanted to take this
[53:50] opportunity to recognize them
[53:51] as they are transitioning out
[53:52] in a new group of leaders will
[53:53] be taking over in
[53:55] transformation management.
[54:00] The team has also transformed
[54:01] key functions modernizing
[54:05] processes and permitting land
[54:06] acquisition, planning,
[54:07] procurement, transportation
[54:08] projects and community
[54:08] outreach.
[54:13] The team is also
[54:14] supported the launch of offices
[54:15] such as sustainability,
[54:17] community safety.
[54:20] We are very close as we get to
[54:26] FEBRUARY to coming back to the
[54:26] board for your consideration
[54:27] with the department of
[54:28] transportation and capitol
[54:29] construction, which will merge
[54:30] much of our construction and
[54:32] capitol efforts.
[54:33] The team has been absolutely
[54:34] phenomenal making much of that
[54:45] happened and supporting it
[54:46] across the county and they have
[54:47] strengthened the customer
[54:48] experience by mapping
[54:49] processing and permitting,
[54:49] planning libraries, public
[54:51] works in the clerks office.
[54:52] Really wanted to express
[54:59] appreciation for the great work
[54:59] they have done with a small
[55:00] token and I have one
[55:01] certificate for each of the
[55:02] leaders within pmo.
[55:02] I'm going to read the
[55:06] certificate.
[55:09] Why don't you all come on down
[55:18] .
[55:19] [Applause]
[55:19] So MADAM Chair, this
[55:20] certificate reads "certificate
[55:21] of appreciation and recognition
[55:22] of your outstanding dedication
[55:24] and leadership to the
[55:27] transformation management
[55:32] office during 2024 through 2025
[55:33] and this is signed by me and I
[55:38] have one for each of our
[55:39] phenomenal leaders in
[55:43] transformation management.
[55:44] Lisa, do you want to say a few
[55:44] words?
[55:51] >> on behalf of myself and
[55:52] team, I want to thank you for
[55:55] your innovative idea of this
[55:57] opportunity.
[56:02] We have had a great two years
[56:03] getting to know the county
[56:03] more, working across
[56:03] departments
[56:04] .
[56:06] We loved being able to enhance
[56:11] the customer experience and
[56:12] offer meaningful and impactful
[56:13] solutions and really just we
[56:22] will take these tools and
[56:23] skills back on are really
[56:24] excited and thankful and really
[56:25] excited it's continuing and
[56:25] that the need two for the
[56:26] office is valued and have
[56:27] really been beneficial.
[56:29] Thank you all
[56:33] .
[56:33] Thank you.
[56:34] >> Kenny Boddye: MADAM Chair.
[56:35] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[56:38] boddye
[56:38] .
[56:39] >> Kenny Boddye: I would be
[56:39] remiss if I didn't mention for
[56:40] the publix benefit that there
[56:41] is a podcast.
[56:50] If people didn't
[56:51] know, they actually have their
[56:51] own podcast.
[56:52] It is for the good content so I
[56:53] want to put it out for public
[56:53] benefit.
[56:54] Thank you.
[56:55] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[56:55] thank you so very much.
[56:56] I'm laughing because you are
[56:59] tall.
[57:00] >> MR. Shorter: thank you all
[57:09] very much.
[57:09] You can have a seat.
[57:10] We are going to be
[57:11] transitioning to a new timo.
[57:12] Mandy has been named our next
[57:13] transformation management chief
[57:14] and she will be starting next
[57:14] month.
[57:17] Again, I wanted to use this as
[57:17] an opportunity to say thank
[57:18] you.
[57:28] It's not every day and of
[57:29] course we have the members of
[57:30] the t mo here, but I will tell
[57:31] you dozens and dozens of staff
[57:32] across the county who had to
[57:32] backfill them in the agency
[57:33] also had two years of training
[57:37] and professional development so
[57:38] want to thank all of them for
[57:39] serving on those active roles
[57:40] as well
[57:40] .
[57:41] While I am here I wanted to go
[57:43] ahead and provide the update I
[57:44] always provide different cxo
[57:44] time.
[57:49] There were seven new
[57:50] directives issued in our last
[57:55] meeting.
[57:56] Staff was directed to work with
[57:57] the towing advisory board and
[58:02] return in six months with a
[58:02] report on data points in any
[58:03] safety concerns or other
[58:08] impacts related to the updates
[58:09] to the towing ordinance this
[58:10] directive was assigned to the
[58:11] police department.
[58:16] We were asked to provide a
[58:16] report one year from now.
[58:17] That includes an analysis of
[58:23] the effectiveness of the noise
[58:24] ordinance.
[58:24] Any violations found, any
[58:26] potential revisions to the
[58:26] noise ordinance that needs to
[58:29] be made on this was assigned to
[58:43] our public works department.
[58:44] Three, we were asked to develop
[58:45] an inventory of all boards,
[58:46] committees, commissions,
[58:47] advisory and/or working groups
[58:48] established by the board via
[58:49] resolution or directive.
[58:50] This directive was assigned to
[58:51] the clerk of the board.
[58:56] We
[58:56] were asked to identify land to
[58:57] purchase in the woodbridge
[58:58] magisterial district suitable
[58:59] to the development of the
[59:01] community recreation center and
[59:02] bring back appropriate
[59:03] regulations for the board
[59:03] consideration but this
[59:04] directive was assigned to parks
[59:09] and ffm.
[59:10] Five, we were asked to develop
[59:11] recommendations for
[59:12] establishing a county owned and
[59:13] maintained history museum
[59:14] picked this directive was
[59:29] assigned to parks
[59:30] , facilities,
[59:30] fleet management and to
[59:31] planning.
[59:31] Six, we were asked to develop
[59:32] and present a framework for the
[59:33] establishment of an
[59:34] agricultural and forest reserve
[59:35] picked this directive was
[59:35] assigned to finance budget,
[59:36] planning and public works.
[59:37] And then finally, we were asked
[59:38] to follow up to previous
[59:39] directive to expedite the
[59:40] exploration of the elimination
[59:41] of the datacenter opportunity
[59:45] zone overlay district in this
[59:46] directive was assigned to
[59:50] planning.
[59:51] There were three directives
[59:55] closed since our last meeting.
[59:56] Response to explore options for
[59:57] establishing additional
[1:00:00] community gardens on county
[1:00:01] owned property in the follow-up
[1:00:05] directive to add a potential
[1:00:05] botanical garden at fackler
[1:00:07] park was sent earlier this
[1:00:11] month to the board.
[1:00:15] And finally response to develop
[1:00:15] a recommendation for a new
[1:00:19] framework to leverage the power
[1:00:20] the arts was provided to the
[1:00:23] board last week.
[1:00:24] Yes, so those were all the
[1:00:37] directives opened and closed.
[1:00:37] I would also like to express
[1:00:38] real excitement about an
[1:00:39] opportunity.
[1:00:39] And I will have the chief to
[1:00:40] come up and talk a bit about
[1:00:41] this for a minute or two
[1:00:41] because it is such a big deal
[1:00:42] for our county.
[1:00:43] The county fire rescue system
[1:00:43] is introducing two major
[1:00:47] lifesaving advancements here in
[1:00:48] the county.
[1:00:48] Nce I got word
[1:00:49] that we had gotten to this
[1:00:51] point, I wanted the chief to
[1:00:57] come up and talk about this
[1:00:58] because I really wanted the
[1:00:59] board to have awareness of it
[1:01:00] but also our community to have
[1:01:00] awareness of it.
[1:01:00] Chief?
[1:01:08] Are you around?
[1:01:09] >> I appreciate you raising the
[1:01:12] podium before I got here
[1:01:12] .
[1:01:12] Good afternoon.
[1:01:22] Tom, your fire chief.
[1:01:23] MADAM Chair, members of the
[1:01:24] board, I am always excited.
[1:01:25] I am always so proud of the
[1:01:26] career volunteers staff of the
[1:01:28] amazing fire rescue system.
[1:01:29] Even more so when are able to
[1:01:30] give them the resources they
[1:01:34] need to literally save lives of
[1:01:35] our residents and citizens.
[1:01:36] Our two programs I want to talk
[1:01:37] about.
[1:01:37] The first will we will be
[1:01:40] introducing ultrasound and that
[1:01:47] means we would be able to look
[1:01:48] inside of patients.
[1:01:48] E will
[1:01:49] look at whether or not they are
[1:01:50] having congestive heart
[1:01:59] failure, whether it is a
[1:02:00] copd
[1:02:01] issue or they have a collapsed
[1:02:01] lung.
[1:02:02] Also be able to see if their
[1:02:02] heart has actually stopped.
[1:02:03] All of those are incredibly
[1:02:04] helpful in the field.
[1:02:05] The second, just as exciting is
[1:02:06] we will be delivering whole
[1:02:06] blood in the field.
[1:02:08] That means
[1:02:09] when an individual has a
[1:02:15] dramatic injury and is bleeding
[1:02:16] out, right now we don't have
[1:02:17] the ability unless we call
[1:02:17] another community to provide
[1:02:18] whole blood to that person on
[1:02:20] scene.
[1:02:21] We will have the ability around
[1:02:24] the first week of DECEMBER
[1:02:24] .
[1:02:24] And I can tell he
[1:02:30] unquestionably
[1:02:31] , that will save
[1:02:31] the lives of people in this
[1:02:32] community who currently die
[1:02:37] because we can't do it.
[1:02:37] I'm also excited because we are
[1:02:38] able to do this without asking
[1:02:40] for resources and that's always
[1:02:40] a good spot to be in.
[1:02:41] As all
[1:02:45] of you know, we've been looking
[1:02:46] to try to be efficient with our
[1:02:46] ems model.
[1:02:47] We are continuing down that
[1:02:49] road
[1:02:49] .
[1:02:53] The last two things is we could
[1:02:54] not have possibly gotten this
[1:03:03] done if you haven't approved
[1:03:03] doctor.
[1:03:04] [Name] To be our medical
[1:03:05] director.
[1:03:05] Most do you know I have a fair
[1:03:06] amount of energy.
[1:03:06] I'm not sure where he gets his
[1:03:07] from.
[1:03:08] He is bringing forward amazing
[1:03:09] things for us.
[1:03:15] This is a perfect example of
[1:03:16] what we have been able to
[1:03:17] accomplish with this medical
[1:03:18] director.
[1:03:19] I really enjoy working with
[1:03:19] him.
[1:03:27] In the last piece is this
[1:03:28] saturday a volunteer station on
[1:03:29] f st. We are going to be having
[1:03:30] a blood drive because you can't
[1:03:30] give out whole blood if you
[1:03:31] don't have blood.
[1:03:33] The good news is saturday from
[1:03:34] 8:00to 1:00.
[1:03:35] The chief and I will be the
[1:03:41] first to know the good news is
[1:03:42] if you wait yourself beforehand
[1:03:45] and after you will lose weight.
[1:03:46] I really encourage everyone
[1:03:48] listening to this to come out
[1:03:50] from 8:00to 1:00 to our blood
[1:03:52] drive
[1:03:53] .
[1:03:54] And a special shout out to.
[1:03:56] [Name] Helping with this.
[1:04:08] [Applause]
[1:04:09] >> MR. Shorter: absolutely
[1:04:09] amazing.
[1:04:09] Ou can understand
[1:04:10] why I wanted to have the chief
[1:04:11] deliver that message.
[1:04:16] It is such great news for our
[1:04:16] community and for all of those
[1:04:17] who will be helped by our
[1:04:24] system in the future.
[1:04:31] I wanted to quickly recognize
[1:04:32] if you employees for their
[1:04:33] outstanding work.
[1:04:34] Big thanks to our planning
[1:04:35] office in communication and
[1:04:35] engagement for creating a small
[1:04:36] area plan hub on the pwc works
[1:04:40] platform
[1:04:41] , on the pwc works
[1:04:41] website.
[1:04:42] We are going to have the
[1:04:42] next
[1:04:43] time we are together on
[1:04:46] DECEMBER 2, the planning
[1:04:47] office talk about what's
[1:04:50] happening on pwc works and
[1:04:53] highlight advancements they
[1:04:53] have made.
[1:05:01] Not just the smaller implants
[1:05:02] but there been some other
[1:05:02] advancements we want to
[1:05:03] highlight.
[1:05:03] Last but certainly not least, I
[1:05:04] want to give a big shout out to
[1:05:08] all of those involved in
[1:05:09] responding to the gas leak
[1:05:11] incident last friday.
[1:05:12] I know that a few of you will
[1:05:16] probably talk this as well at
[1:05:17] some point.
[1:05:18] The event necessitated in the
[1:05:29] evacuation of 65 townhomes
[1:05:29] leading to the need to
[1:05:30] immediately shelter 82 people,
[1:05:31] 11 of whom were children at
[1:05:32] woodbridge high school on
[1:05:32] friday.
[1:05:34] 30 adults
[1:05:36] , two children were
[1:05:37] further assisted by further
[1:05:38] emergency management and red
[1:05:41] cross services and they could
[1:05:42] not return home after the
[1:05:43] emergency repair due to the
[1:05:47] loss of heat.
[1:05:48] We believe the certainly thanks
[1:05:52] and recognition are in order
[1:05:54] .
[1:05:55] There are so many agencies that
[1:05:55] had a roll to play in this
[1:05:56] process.
[1:06:00] We were able to accomplish what
[1:06:00] we believe was one of the
[1:06:01] largest if not the largest
[1:06:06] emergency evacuations that has
[1:06:07] happened for the purpose of how
[1:06:08] to this hazardous material
[1:06:14] relief in recent history
[1:06:14] .
[1:06:15] We did that seamlessly and
[1:06:16] humanely and I wanted to
[1:06:17] recognize all the agencies
[1:06:17] involved.
[1:06:18] Are prince william county
[1:06:24] department of fire and rescue,
[1:06:25] occoquan woodbridge volunteer
[1:06:26] fire department, nokesville
[1:06:27] volunteer department, prince
[1:06:28] william emergency management,
[1:06:29] prince william public safety
[1:06:30] communications.
[1:06:35] Of course prince william county
[1:06:36] police, red cross, washington
[1:06:38] gas, prince william department
[1:06:39] of services, omni right in
[1:06:42] prince william public schools
[1:06:43] all played a part we want to
[1:06:48] recognize the great work that
[1:06:49] happened last friday.
[1:06:51] [Applause]
[1:06:51] That is all for me.
[1:06:55] >> Chair Jefferson: hold on
[1:06:56] supervisor franklin?
[1:06:57] >> Margaret Angela Franklin: a
[1:06:59] quick question.
[1:07:02] I know a month ago you sent our
[1:07:04] campaign that included a law of
[1:07:07] important data points
[1:07:07] .
[1:07:08] I was also wondering whenever
[1:07:12] you decide to schedule an
[1:07:13] actual presentation for the
[1:07:14] board if it can include our
[1:07:20] marketing strategy for the --
[1:07:22] whatever we are calling it.
[1:07:25] The raccoon.
[1:07:26] >> MR. Shorter: we absolutely
[1:07:33] will
[1:07:33] .
[1:07:34] They MAY or MAY not be
[1:07:34] appearance.
[1:07:35] I think we are planning to come
[1:07:36] in DECEMBER with a presentation
[1:07:37] and an update to the board.
[1:07:38] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[1:07:38] that is helpful.
[1:07:39] i want to make sure we are
[1:07:40] marketing in various parts of
[1:07:47] the county, various modes
[1:07:48] .
[1:07:48] I haven't seen a lot but I'm in
[1:07:49] the right places.
[1:07:50] I'm certainly up and down route
[1:07:53] 1. I MAY have questions about
[1:07:54] where exactly are we doing our
[1:08:03] targeting and how effective is
[1:08:04] the actual campaign.
[1:08:05] I know the litter crew is doing
[1:08:06] the work but we need to raise
[1:08:07] awareness to residents so that
[1:08:08] we all do better
[1:08:08] .
[1:08:11] >> MR. Shorter: happy to
[1:08:11] include that.
[1:08:12] >> Chair Jefferson: we did
[1:08:16] speak about that and I
[1:08:16] , for the
[1:08:16] record.
[1:08:17] I did not put her up to ask
[1:08:20] about trash.
[1:08:21] But I want everyone to know
[1:08:24] whenever you pick up a piece of
[1:08:25] litter, the spirit of trashy
[1:08:33] lives within you.
[1:08:33] I couldn't help it.
[1:08:33] Love the
[1:08:34] mom jokes.
[1:08:35] Supervisor bailey?
[1:08:36] >> Andrea Bailey: I wanted to
[1:08:36] thank
[1:08:39] , personally thank on
[1:08:45] behalf of the board lisa as she
[1:08:47] was a part of the team
[1:08:47] .
[1:08:52] One of the things I got scared
[1:08:53] about was who is going to take
[1:08:54] care of the crc.
[1:08:55] And she took it with her.
[1:08:57] She had two new assignments to
[1:09:01] work with her team and I really
[1:09:02] appreciate the delivery of the
[1:09:05] crisis receiving center as you
[1:09:08] embarked upon raising us up
[1:09:09] with your team for prince
[1:09:11] william county.
[1:09:12] Your giftedness goes before
[1:09:13] you.
[1:09:20] So thank you.
[1:09:21] >> Chair Jefferson: we don't
[1:09:22] have any further comments or
[1:09:23] you can roll into agency time.
[1:09:24] I'm sorry.
[1:09:28] County attorney time.
[1:09:50] >> MS. Roble: this afternoon in
[1:09:52] session we will have
[1:09:53] consultation with legal counsel
[1:09:54] and briefings by staff members
[1:09:55] pertaining to the discussion or
[1:09:55] consideration of acquisition of
[1:09:56] real property for public
[1:09:57] purposes to include for public
[1:09:58] safety and other public uses
[1:09:59] where discussion in an open
[1:10:00] meeting would adversely affect
[1:10:01] the bargaining position in
[1:10:01] litigating posture or
[1:10:02] negotiating strategy of the
[1:10:03] public body.
[1:10:03] We will have a personal
[1:10:04] discussion relating to the
[1:10:05] appointments and officers of
[1:10:06] the potomac and transportation
[1:10:14] commission chair pro tem of
[1:10:14] the
[1:10:15] board.
[1:10:15] Members of the board audit
[1:10:16] committee, members of the joint
[1:10:17] audit committee, and members
[1:10:19] the metropolitan washington
[1:10:20] council of governments climate
[1:10:21] energy and environmental policy
[1:10:22] committee and chesapeake bay
[1:10:22] and water resource policy
[1:10:24] committee.
[1:10:24] We will personal discussions
[1:10:25] relating to the animal
[1:10:26] evaluation of the county
[1:10:26] attorney and the county
[1:10:27] executive or consultation in
[1:10:28] briefing and discussion in an
[1:10:29] open meeting would adversely
[1:10:30] affect the bargaining position
[1:10:34] in litigating posture and
[1:10:35] negotiating strategy and these
[1:10:35] are appropriate for closed
[1:10:37] session pursuant to 2.2-3711 a,
[1:10:39] one entry of the code of
[1:10:40] virginia.
[1:10:40] >> Andrea Bailey: the moved.
[1:10:42] >> Kenny Boddye: second.
[1:10:42] >> Chair Jefferson: properly
[1:10:43] moved and seconded.
[1:10:43] Let's go ahead and take our
[1:10:44] vote.
[1:10:49] >> vote unanimous
[1:10:52] .
[1:10:53] >> Chair Jefferson: okay.
[1:10:54] Now we can do agency time.
[1:10:55] >> MR. Shorter: thank you very
[1:10:55] much.
[1:10:55] I
[1:10:56] want to thank the sheriff and
[1:10:57] all our constitutional officers
[1:10:57] .
[1:11:02] I see the clerk here as well
[1:11:03] for their willingness to come
[1:11:03] down.
[1:11:05] What we wanted to do, unlike
[1:11:08] last year, is out of our
[1:11:09] constitutional officers present
[1:11:11] directly to the board their
[1:11:12] budget as part of the, as we
[1:11:15] get started in terms of the fy
[1:11:18] 27 budget development process
[1:11:19] for the process as we talked
[1:11:20] about during the committee
[1:11:23] meeting this morning will move
[1:11:23] forward in the way that it
[1:11:27] always does.
[1:11:28] But we won't wanted to make
[1:11:29] sure constitutional officers
[1:11:31] had an opportunity to present
[1:11:34] to the board directly.
[1:11:35] We are starting that process in
[1:11:36] earnest with the sheriff and I
[1:11:39] want to thank him again for
[1:11:41] being here.
[1:11:54] You can take it away.
[1:11:55] >> I am sheriff glenn hill, I
[1:11:56] am elected every four years to
[1:12:06] serve prince william county and
[1:12:07] the city of manassas and
[1:12:07] manassas park.
[1:12:08] My sincere thanks to the board
[1:12:09] for giving me the opportunity
[1:12:10] to come before you to present
[1:12:11] the sheriff's office fy 27
[1:12:13] budget request.
[1:12:14] With me this afternoon as chief
[1:12:15] deputy
[1:12:18] , budget analyst whitney
[1:12:23] brown
[1:12:23] .
[1:12:24] During my presentation I will
[1:12:27] talk briefly about who we are,
[1:12:28] how we serve our mandated
[1:12:29] responsibilities in our
[1:12:34] prevention program that
[1:12:34] contributes to a better quality
[1:12:40] of life for our community.
[1:12:41] I will conclude my fy 27 budget
[1:12:44] request and answer any
[1:12:55] questions you MAY have.
[1:12:56] Our mission statement explains
[1:12:58] our commitment to our values
[1:12:59] ,
[1:13:00] profession, and the community
[1:13:01] we serve
[1:13:12] .
[1:13:13] Who we are.
[1:13:13] The
[1:13:14] sheriff's office the oldest
[1:13:15] numbers agency established in
[1:13:15] prince william county.
[1:13:23] The police department was
[1:13:23] established in 1970 to provide
[1:13:24] law enforcement duties picked
[1:13:25] the prince william manassas
[1:13:26] regional jail operation begun
[1:13:29] in 1982.
[1:13:29] All court functions remain with
[1:13:30] the sheriff's office, but we
[1:13:34] collaborate with all public
[1:13:35] safety agencies to maintain the
[1:13:38] highest level of service for
[1:13:44] our community.
[1:13:48] This slide is a summary of how
[1:13:53] we serve our mandated primary
[1:13:54] responsibilities and how we
[1:13:55] assist other law enforcement
[1:14:02] agencies.
[1:14:10] The most important position on
[1:14:11] our organization chart is at
[1:14:12] the top.
[1:14:18] The citizens and community we
[1:14:19] serve.
[1:14:20] additionally the chart allows
[1:14:20] everyone to see the chain of
[1:14:23] command and understand the
[1:14:24] structure and
[1:14:24] functions of our
[1:14:35] office.
[1:14:36] Courthouse security.
[1:14:38] Providing courthouse security
[1:14:39] is one of the many mandated
[1:14:44] responsibilities of a sure.
[1:14:46] The court services division is
[1:14:51] responsible upholding the
[1:14:52] integrity of the judicial
[1:14:52] process provisions office
[1:14:54] provides 24 hours a committee
[1:14:55] in and around the judicial
[1:14:56] center complex
[1:14:56] .
[1:15:01] In fy 25 the courthouse screen
[1:15:03] 300,137 individuals who entered
[1:15:05] the courthouse
[1:15:09] .
[1:15:11] Approximately 90 people who
[1:15:11] entered the courthouse and
[1:15:14] therefore court purposes
[1:15:14] .
[1:15:16] Some of them are uncomfortable
[1:15:17] entering and being in the
[1:15:17] courthouse
[1:15:18] .
[1:15:21] That is why I'm so proud of my
[1:15:22] deputies who do an outstanding
[1:15:25] job reading, screening, and
[1:15:25] assisting
[1:15:29] individuals, entering
[1:15:30] the courthouse to make them
[1:15:32] feel comfortable.
[1:15:33] They also assist the physically
[1:15:36] impaired and ensure businesses
[1:15:38] know how to get to their
[1:15:39] destination.
[1:15:43] You won't find too many
[1:15:43] courthouse is anywhere that
[1:15:44] greet the public when they come
[1:15:49] in and assist them.
[1:15:52] Deputies off often respond to
[1:15:56] unusual circumstances and
[1:15:57] situations in and around the
[1:15:58] courthouse and are often the
[1:16:01] first responders when someone
[1:16:02] suffers a medical emergency
[1:16:02] .
[1:16:06] Some officers have alarms in
[1:16:12] case of an emergency.
[1:16:13] We work with other agencies in
[1:16:14] the courthouse to implement
[1:16:15] evacuation procedures
[1:16:15] .
[1:16:16] Deputies escort individuals and
[1:16:22] families to ensure their safe
[1:16:28] departure from the courthouse.
[1:16:29] Courtroom security.
[1:16:29] Will
[1:16:30] focus on courtroom security
[1:16:35] because this is a function of
[1:16:36] our office of the requesting
[1:16:40] additional personnel.
[1:16:42] The courthouse is 18 courtrooms
[1:16:42] .
[1:16:45] Where the second busiest
[1:16:45] courthouse.
[1:16:49] Our circuit court has seven
[1:16:55] courtrooms
[1:16:57] .
[1:16:58] Court room deputies primary
[1:16:58] responsibility is
[1:16:59] to provide
[1:17:00] security and maintain order in
[1:17:00] the court room, including
[1:17:03] inmate supervision.
[1:17:04] And prince of them county
[1:17:05] deputies provide support to the
[1:17:10] clerks and managing jurors and
[1:17:11] handle additional related tests
[1:17:14] and other duties are courthouse
[1:17:16] security and courtroom security
[1:17:20] is a collective effort
[1:17:20] .
[1:17:21] Everyone, regardless of their
[1:17:26] rank, including me and the
[1:17:26] captains of rain, we must all
[1:17:30] participate to ensure every
[1:17:31] courtroom is properly staffed
[1:17:32] and advanced preparation is
[1:17:37] required
[1:17:37] .
[1:17:38] In other words, we plan days
[1:17:39] before how we are going to
[1:17:41] manage our courtrooms
[1:17:41] .
[1:17:42] two deputies are assigned to
[1:17:46] each circuit court room.
[1:17:47] Some cases require additional
[1:17:52] deputies for security.
[1:17:52] Jury movement and other
[1:17:53] additional screening of
[1:17:54] courtroom attendees before
[1:17:59] court begins frequently maria
[1:18:00] signs from other duties to
[1:18:03] assist in our courtrooms
[1:18:03] .
[1:18:06] I will talk later about the
[1:18:11] presentation about the deputies
[1:18:12] assistant and his impact on the
[1:18:14] duties and responsibilities are
[1:18:18] to assist us with court
[1:18:19] responsibilities, we utilize
[1:18:21] off-duty jail officers reserve
[1:18:27] deputies.
[1:18:28] Our general district court past
[1:18:31] five courtrooms
[1:18:31] .
[1:18:32] If one deputy is assigned to
[1:18:38] each courtroom the deputies
[1:18:39] assist in this courtroom
[1:18:40] receive most of the assistance
[1:18:42] from the deputies assigned to
[1:18:43] the deployment and inmate
[1:18:47] movement.
[1:18:48] Juvenile and domestic relations
[1:18:52] court is our third court.
[1:18:54] Uvenile domestic relations
[1:18:59] court has six courtrooms.
[1:18:59] Ne
[1:19:00] deputy assigned to each one of
[1:19:02] those courtrooms
[1:19:02] .
[1:19:03] A new law went into effect JULY
[1:19:06] 1 permitting the use of
[1:19:12] juvenile restraints unless
[1:19:12] approved by a judge.
[1:19:13] We now have a court order to
[1:19:21] request a special hearing to
[1:19:22] use restraints there's no
[1:19:22] guarantee our request is going
[1:19:23] to be granted and we have had
[1:19:33] some interesting experiences in
[1:19:33] supervising our juveniles.
[1:19:33] People
[1:19:34] are waiting to appear in
[1:19:36] court frequently asked for
[1:19:36] assistance involving security
[1:19:39] and safety in the courthouse.
[1:19:40] Many people we escort to the
[1:19:41] vehicles are involved in cases
[1:19:46] out of juvenile court.
[1:19:47] Are controls in a dispatch
[1:19:51] .
[1:19:52] The sheriff's office public
[1:19:53] safety telecommunications for
[1:19:58] calls for service and the
[1:19:59] judicial center complex called
[1:20:00] transportation and other units
[1:20:01] communicate with the
[1:20:04] dispatchers.
[1:20:05] Process deputies, the ones out
[1:20:08] in our community communicate
[1:20:09] with prince william county
[1:20:12] dispatchers
[1:20:13] .
[1:20:14] They receive and process all
[1:20:14] incoming calls for
[1:20:16] this office.
[1:20:17] Our public safety
[1:20:18] telecommunications required to
[1:20:23] complete dispatch basic
[1:20:23] academy.
[1:20:26] Additionally they maintain a
[1:20:30] level of certification through
[1:20:34] a virginia criminal information
[1:20:37] network.
[1:20:38] They monitor over 200 cameras
[1:20:41] to assist courthouse deputies
[1:20:44] pick they monitor and dispatch
[1:20:45] 50 emergency alarms throughout
[1:20:49] the courthouse so a lot of
[1:20:50] offices have those in their
[1:20:52] offices and our dispatcher
[1:20:57] monitors those
[1:20:58] .
[1:20:59] They also checked the movement
[1:21:00] of inmates in the courthouse
[1:21:03] throughout the courthouse on a
[1:21:05] daily basis
[1:21:08] .
[1:21:09] Our employment personnel are
[1:21:20] assigned to vertical implement
[1:21:20] to receive inmates from the
[1:21:21] adult detention center from
[1:21:22] court.
[1:21:23] inmates are then escorted to
[1:21:23] and
[1:21:25] from courtrooms within the
[1:21:25] courthouse.
[1:21:26] Inmates remain in our custody a
[1:21:27] return to the adult detention
[1:21:29] center to serve a sentence,
[1:21:30] remain in custody pending a
[1:21:31] court date or they MAY be
[1:21:31] released.
[1:21:33] They also take into custody
[1:21:36] persons committed to adult
[1:21:39] detention center and process
[1:21:40] and for them to the adult
[1:21:42] detention center
[1:21:42] .
[1:21:46] In fy 25 this section escorted
[1:21:46] 30,000 inmates to and from the
[1:21:49] courthouse to the adult
[1:21:54] detention center.
[1:21:55] The live scan section is
[1:21:56] responsible for mandated
[1:21:57] processing of section sexual
[1:22:05] offenders for persons convicted
[1:22:05] of certain offenses are
[1:22:06] processed and dna is collected
[1:22:07] and sent to the state forensic
[1:22:09] laboratory.
[1:22:09] Persons released by the police
[1:22:12] on a summons for violations are
[1:22:17] processed by this section after
[1:22:25] their court appearances.
[1:22:26] They also assist people
[1:22:27] requesting fingerprints for job
[1:22:27] applications
[1:22:27] .
[1:22:31] We also conduct background
[1:22:31] checks for citizens applying
[1:22:32] for
[1:22:32] concealed weapons.
[1:22:36] In fy
[1:22:37] 25 we conducted 6002 at a 24
[1:22:38] background checks
[1:22:38] .
[1:22:40] The background checks done to
[1:22:42] assist the clerk of the court
[1:22:45] issuing concealed weapons
[1:22:45] permits
[1:22:55] .
[1:22:56] Our operations division and
[1:22:57] some of our core functions
[1:22:58] .
[1:23:05] Civil process deputies are very
[1:23:06] busy.
[1:23:07] Deputies assigned to our civil
[1:23:07] process of legal documents
[1:23:08] within prince william county
[1:23:09] and the city of manassas and
[1:23:13] manassas park.
[1:23:14] Most we serve are posted on the
[1:23:18] property, but some require
[1:23:19] personal service and are often
[1:23:22] times consuming.
[1:23:23] There are several documents we
[1:23:26] serve the required two
[1:23:29] deputies.
[1:23:30] In fy 25 we serve 73,522
[1:23:35] .
[1:23:39] To the document are
[1:23:39] convictions.
[1:23:43] To complete the execution of an
[1:23:46] eviction requires at least
[1:23:51] three visits to the residence
[1:23:52] even though we get one document
[1:23:53] that is going to require
[1:23:54] several visits to that
[1:23:58] residence for can fy 25 we
[1:24:07] executed 3091 evictions with
[1:24:07] four deputies.
[1:24:07] Most deputies I
[1:24:08] have on my eviction squad.
[1:24:09] We also executed 172 letters
[1:24:14] and conducted for sheriff
[1:24:15] sales.
[1:24:16] Also in fy 25 to assist the
[1:24:16] eviction squad because they
[1:24:21] need assistance to get their
[1:24:21] work done, the civil process
[1:25:04] deputy served 512 if they are
[1:25:07] in the area.
[1:25:13] Sometimes we are in areas where
[1:25:13] there is no police presence and
[1:25:14] when car comes out the deputy
[1:25:15] would assist the police
[1:25:15] department.
[1:25:19] Sometimes the deputies are the
[1:25:25] first ones on the scene.
[1:25:25] Funeral escorts are mandated.
[1:25:26] It is not a mandated
[1:25:32] responsibility.
[1:25:32] you sheriff it is absolutely
[1:25:34] necessary to provide the
[1:25:38] service to our community.
[1:25:39] We get a lotta nice letters
[1:25:46] from the citizens about how.
[1:25:47] I especially like the letters
[1:25:49] who come from people who visit
[1:25:49] our community are here from a
[1:25:52] funeral and see how we provide
[1:25:52] this service for our community.
[1:25:58] In fy 25 this section performs
[1:26:02] 333 funeral escorts.
[1:26:03] Providing funeral escorts sends
[1:26:06] a message to our community and
[1:26:10] businesses about who we are and
[1:26:11] as an agency in prince william
[1:26:17] county in the city of manassas
[1:26:17] and manassas park.
[1:26:18] When discussing earlier there
[1:26:19] is a minute deputies from other
[1:26:19] duties
[1:26:22] , the difference we
[1:26:24] normally pole to assist us
[1:26:24] ,
[1:26:26] they are our civil process
[1:26:32] deputies.
[1:26:33] Transportation to and from
[1:26:35] criminal justice facilities is
[1:26:39] a challenging daily process,
[1:26:42] mainly because of the distance
[1:26:43] to other jails and facilities
[1:26:47] in the state.
[1:26:47] Next we have temporary
[1:26:48] detention orders.
[1:26:52] By virginia code, all persons
[1:26:53] committed to facilities for
[1:27:00] treatment are transported by
[1:27:01] primary law
[1:27:02] enforcement agencies
[1:27:03] in that jurisdiction for prince
[1:27:03] william county it is all our
[1:27:04] police department.
[1:27:07] Before the law changed about 10
[1:27:07] years ago it was the sheriff's
[1:27:10] office responsibility.
[1:27:11] If the person is in crisis, is
[1:27:14] a juvenile and eight number
[1:27:15] eight detention order is issued
[1:27:21] in the juvenile is medically
[1:27:22] cleared for transport, it is
[1:27:23] the police departments
[1:27:24] responsibility to transport the
[1:27:25] person in crisis.
[1:27:26] By state law, the petition is a
[1:27:30] subpoena notifying the parent
[1:27:32] or guardian of the hearing date
[1:27:32] and time location.
[1:27:36] This petition can only be
[1:27:42] served by a deputy sheriff.
[1:27:43] Regardless of when this occurs,
[1:27:44] the sheriff's office agrees to
[1:27:51] do all juvenile transport for
[1:27:52] our police department is office
[1:27:53] assists the police department
[1:27:58] transporting persons in crisis.
[1:27:59] The other times during the week
[1:27:59] my office agreed to do to
[1:28:00] career eat detention order
[1:28:04] transports.
[1:28:05] Our agency agreed help because
[1:28:07] I know our police department
[1:28:08] are busy and when you have a
[1:28:12] transport such as a person in
[1:28:13] crisis it takes to officers to
[1:28:17] do the transports.
[1:28:18] So we assist them to keep the
[1:28:19] officers on the street and I
[1:28:21] have deputy sheriffs on call so
[1:28:22] we can do the transport for our
[1:28:25] police department.
[1:28:29] In fy 25 this section a civil
[1:28:29] transport totaled 4107 hours
[1:28:30] spent.
[1:28:34] In fy 25 we assisted the police
[1:28:36] department during civil
[1:28:37] transports totaling 3599.
[1:28:41] Starting this fiscal year the
[1:28:42] courts are now sending court
[1:28:44] orders to our offices to
[1:28:55] transport -- in prince within
[1:28:55] county.
[1:28:59] These transports are statewide
[1:29:00] and require at least two
[1:29:01] deputies to perform the
[1:29:02] transports.
[1:29:06] So far we have done 47 of these
[1:29:17] transports this fiscal year.
[1:29:18] By mandate the sheriff's office
[1:29:19] is responsible for post
[1:29:20] commitment hearing transports
[1:29:21] to include transports to mental
[1:29:22] hospitals in the commonwealth.
[1:29:27] Please keep in mind for
[1:29:28] cautionary reasons and safety
[1:29:33] reasons, each transport
[1:29:34] requires two deputies.
[1:29:35] 80 percent of our transports
[1:29:40] are done with two deputies.
[1:29:40] I do not feel comfortable
[1:29:46] sending one deputy on a
[1:29:46] transport by themselves who
[1:29:48] deputies frequently travel to
[1:29:49] facilities all across the
[1:29:55] commonwealth of virginia.
[1:29:56] Depending on what time they
[1:29:56] leave prince william county and
[1:29:58] distance traveled, they often
[1:29:59] stay overnight and return the
[1:30:02] following day which means they
[1:30:03] are not available for duty the
[1:30:04] next day
[1:30:07] .
[1:30:21] Warrants the warrant section
[1:30:22] handles all support imposed
[1:30:23] eviction warrants who can fy 25
[1:30:24] the warrant section serves 773
[1:30:25] warrants.
[1:30:25] We work very closely with the
[1:30:26] adult probation office to
[1:30:27] apprehend and serve probation
[1:30:27] violations.
[1:30:30] We serve court order violations
[1:30:31] and failure to appear in court
[1:30:32] violations as well.
[1:30:34] Court
[1:30:35] order executions are very
[1:30:38] powerful report example, a
[1:30:39] child removal order requires a
[1:30:44] minimum of four deputies to
[1:30:45] transfer the child to the
[1:30:46] custody of the other parent or
[1:30:48] guardian.
[1:30:53] Those situations can be
[1:30:54] emotional, time-consuming and
[1:31:03] it requires good communication
[1:31:03] skills and patient.
[1:31:04] Dditionally the section is
[1:31:05] responsible for out-of-state x
[1:31:06] traditions.
[1:31:06] If the extradition involves
[1:31:08] flying
[1:31:08] , deputies are required
[1:31:10] to be trained and certified to
[1:31:16] fly while owned.
[1:31:17] Are deputies ensure the average
[1:31:19] of 30 traffic and one is
[1:31:19] .
[1:31:23] In other words, we are on the
[1:31:28] street a law and we see people
[1:31:29] violating the law speeding my
[1:31:30] deputies occasionally will
[1:31:33] write a speeding summons
[1:31:43] .
[1:31:47] Our administration division and
[1:31:48] core functions of our
[1:31:52] administration division.
[1:31:56] Our human resources division is
[1:31:57] responsible for recruitment and
[1:32:05] our application processing.
[1:32:06] Training all deputies on law
[1:32:07] enforcement is a certified and
[1:32:10] trained with law enforcement
[1:32:13] certification., deputies are
[1:32:14] also certified in civil process
[1:32:15] and courtroom security.
[1:32:19] Some
[1:32:20] deputies our jails are defined
[1:32:20] to maintain certification.
[1:32:23] Our deputies also mandated to
[1:32:27] attend 40 hours of in-service
[1:32:31] training every two years.
[1:32:32] We have several other training
[1:32:33] requirements that exceed an
[1:32:39] additional 80 hours
[1:32:39] .
[1:32:40] We have two deputies
[1:32:41] permanently assigned to the
[1:32:44] criminal justice academy.
[1:32:45] Accreditation, we were the
[1:32:47] first agency in the
[1:32:50] commonwealth to be accredited
[1:32:55] through the virginia law
[1:32:56] enforcement professional
[1:32:58] standards commission.
[1:33:02] We just completed our seventh
[1:33:03] accreditation assessment and
[1:33:04] should receive our
[1:33:08] certification certificate in
[1:33:08] DECEMBER.
[1:33:09] This section also handles all
[1:33:28] of our internal affairs.
[1:33:34] As of today -- okay.
[1:33:38] Community services
[1:33:38] .
[1:33:40] Let me back up.
[1:33:41] Our community services
[1:33:44] .
[1:33:45] We start with project
[1:33:45] lifesaver.
[1:33:53] We placed bracelets on seniors
[1:33:54] with alzheimer's and autistic
[1:33:55] children who tend to wander or
[1:33:55] run away.
[1:33:58] The bracelets emits a signal on
[1:33:59] a frequency and it allows us to
[1:34:03] locate a missing client.
[1:34:07] Revisit our clients to ensure
[1:34:08] the bracelet is properly in
[1:34:09] place and to change the
[1:34:12] batteries.
[1:34:13] Most of our clients refer to us
[1:34:21] because the police department
[1:34:22] as properly responded to the
[1:34:22] residence because a person is
[1:34:23] lost or walked away and the
[1:34:26] referred most people to apply
[1:34:29] for applications for us to come
[1:34:30] out and put them on the project
[1:34:30] lifesaver.
[1:34:36] We use our tracking equipment
[1:34:37] to locate missing clients.
[1:34:38] All police station time
[1:34:38] tracking equipment that can be
[1:34:39] utilized by the sheriff's
[1:34:40] office personnel or respondent
[1:34:45] in 2022 we had 33 are lifesaver
[1:34:46] program.
[1:34:50] Currently we 54 clients.
[1:34:57] 28 adults, 26 children in the
[1:34:58] program for gaza today we have
[1:34:59] 15 pending applications
[1:35:03] , and I
[1:35:04] do not want to say no to any
[1:35:05] family who wants to put a
[1:35:12] family member on project
[1:35:13] lifesaver.
[1:35:14] Unlike some jurisdictions we do
[1:35:14] not charge a fee for families
[1:35:15] to be on the program.
[1:35:19] Also, I have a senior program.
[1:35:20] restarted the safe program
[1:35:24] about eight years ago because
[1:35:27] we learned of a senior that
[1:35:28] failed and it was a tragic
[1:35:33] ending and we thought that we
[1:35:34] could do something to help our
[1:35:35] seniors.
[1:35:36] We provide medical equipment to
[1:35:37] seniors who cannot afford it at
[1:35:39] no cost.
[1:36:01] In 2022 -- for our community.
[1:36:04] I get some good comments from
[1:36:09] our seniors because they get a
[1:36:10] joy out in the deputies coming
[1:36:11] to the house spending time with
[1:36:11] them
[1:36:14] , talking to them about
[1:36:18] security issues but it makes a
[1:36:18] difference with our seniors.
[1:36:22] Argon safety program
[1:36:23] , argon
[1:36:23] safety program is properly
[1:36:28] programmed for children.
[1:36:29] In fy 20 find this program is
[1:36:31] presented to over 5000 students
[1:36:31] .
[1:36:35] In 2023 this program receive
[1:36:37] the virginia association of
[1:36:38] counties achievement award
[1:36:39] .
[1:36:44] Our rate aggression and defense
[1:36:45] program are currently we
[1:36:46] conduct about two classes a
[1:36:49] year.
[1:36:49] It's difficult to schedule
[1:36:56] these classes, but I want to
[1:36:57] see if we can do at least two
[1:36:58] classes next year.
[1:37:10] Unclaimed residents here come
[1:37:11] the only agency in the county
[1:37:12] that handles unclaimed
[1:37:12] residence.
[1:37:13] The primary law enforcement
[1:37:14] agency is responsible for
[1:37:14] residence.
[1:37:15] It was the sheriffs
[1:37:16] responsibility until the law
[1:37:19] changed about 11 years ago.
[1:37:20] Because I had a policy in place
[1:37:25] to comply with the law, I agree
[1:37:26] because I represent not only
[1:37:26] prince william county but
[1:37:27] manassas and manassas park to
[1:37:31] continue this responsibility.
[1:37:32] In fy 25 we received about 26
[1:37:34] cases.
[1:37:35] Each case requires about 20
[1:37:37] hours of work.
[1:37:39] Those are include locating
[1:37:42] relatives working with -- and
[1:37:45] to obtain a court order to
[1:37:47] close out the case.
[1:37:51] We also conduct a yearly
[1:37:52] ceremony to honor and provide a
[1:37:56] dignified burial for our
[1:38:01] unclaimed deceased residents
[1:38:04] .
[1:38:06] Our civil disturbance union.
[1:38:11] In 2020 200 demonstrators
[1:38:12] attempted to enter the
[1:38:15] courthouse and we persuaded the
[1:38:19] crowd to leave and prevented
[1:38:21] any confrontation.
[1:38:22] I think some your board members
[1:38:23] might have been there
[1:38:24] that day.
[1:38:28] I am very proud of how officers
[1:38:34] reacted to our demonstrators
[1:38:34] .
[1:38:35] When we talk about treating
[1:38:36] people with dignity and
[1:38:36] respect, this is a prime
[1:38:38] example of how we should treat
[1:38:45] people in those situations.
[1:38:46] We were not prepared to handle
[1:38:46] a group of that size so to
[1:38:48] prevent future issues I sent
[1:38:49] staff to training and purchased
[1:38:51] equipment to manage any
[1:38:55] disturbances that MAY occur.
[1:38:56] I would be remiss if I did not
[1:39:01] mention the incredible work on
[1:39:01] deputies do to support special
[1:39:03] olympics.
[1:39:04] Each year we hold a tournament.
[1:39:10] We raise 50 $6000 to support
[1:39:11] special olympics.
[1:39:16] We hosted two golf tournaments.
[1:39:17] We used those funds to buy a
[1:39:19] drone and other equipment
[1:39:32] needed for the program.
[1:39:33] This is an agency basis.
[1:39:33] Bensalem county revenues
[1:39:45] include charges for service.
[1:39:46] Charges for service are three
[1:39:47] percent of our funding so we
[1:39:47] can see how much we get from
[1:39:48] the compensation board.
[1:39:49] The
[1:39:50] city of manassas, manassas
[1:39:51] park.
[1:39:55] Currently our full-time staff
[1:39:57] 99 part-time sworn, 5.5
[1:39:57] .
[1:40:00] We have 17
[1:40:07] , 121.5 total.
[1:40:08] Also, we have seven reserve
[1:40:13] deputies that come in to assist
[1:40:13] us.
[1:40:14] We require them to come in once
[1:40:19] a month.
[1:40:20] I think CHAIRMAN Vega is on our
[1:40:21] reserve deputies that comes in
[1:40:22] hopes of sometimes.
[1:40:40] Thank you.
[1:40:41] Requesting $15,000 no fte to
[1:40:41] assist us with additional
[1:40:45] equipment to support project
[1:40:52] lifesaving.
[1:40:53] We 15 people applications and
[1:40:54] waiting to be processed.
[1:40:55] I have been wanting to say no
[1:41:03] to any of these clients -- in
[1:41:04] case something happens we can
[1:41:08] find it.
[1:41:09] We also will be asking uniform
[1:41:11] stuffer 12 fte.
[1:41:15] We also asked for a leading
[1:41:16] business service specialist in
[1:41:29] our communications analysts.
[1:41:29] I talked about some of them
[1:41:30] earlier in the transportation
[1:41:32] and court services division to
[1:41:34] address inmate jury and chris's
[1:41:38] transportation.
[1:41:39] We certainly need extra
[1:41:40] deputies to help us in
[1:41:40] transportation
[1:41:42] .
[1:41:48] Course one of the big issues is
[1:41:49] i do not want to san juan
[1:41:50] deputy on a transport with a
[1:42:04] person that is in crisis.
[1:42:05] Uniform stop operation impacts.
[1:42:06] Deputies are frequently
[1:42:10] reassigned from other essential
[1:42:11] duties are going to mention
[1:42:12] pulling people from the civil
[1:42:14] process to come here and help
[1:42:18] us in our courtrooms
[1:42:18] , that's
[1:42:23] because we have a law and
[1:42:24] trials that require more than
[1:42:25] two deputies in the courtroom.
[1:42:26] To get additional help optical
[1:42:27] from other areas to come into
[1:42:29] assist that.
[1:42:35] Also we had to pull from the
[1:42:36] adult detention center to use
[1:42:46] those off-duty to assist us.
[1:42:47] Deputies often juggle multiple
[1:42:48] high-risk duties increasing
[1:42:49] fatigue and safety.
[1:42:49] When I mentioned deputies have
[1:42:50] to travel long distance other
[1:42:51] facilities to do the transport,
[1:42:52] a lot of times they are tired
[1:42:53] when they get back and we can't
[1:42:54] use them so it has an impact on
[1:42:59] our staffing.
[1:43:00] Also, when I talked about the
[1:43:01] hours a mandated training we
[1:43:03] are required to do with 40
[1:43:04] hours mandated but we have
[1:43:06] other hours a training
[1:43:08] required.
[1:43:10] For example, each deputy has to
[1:43:14] be trained and be certified in
[1:43:39] case they have to use it.
[1:43:40] Some of the operational
[1:43:42] benefits increased case
[1:43:42] faulting.
[1:43:43] We look at a number of cases
[1:43:49] have a court
[1:43:50] .
[1:43:51] We talked about the legislative
[1:43:51] change.
[1:43:52] One of the legislative changes
[1:43:54] was in juvenile court
[1:43:57] .
[1:44:01] that legislative change
[1:44:02] requires us to have one
[1:44:07] deputies because as I mentioned
[1:44:08] earlier the unpredictable
[1:44:08] actions of juvenile sometimes
[1:44:09] they have to make sure the
[1:44:11] deputies on site.
[1:44:15] We had injuries restrained
[1:44:16] juveniles in our court so to
[1:44:19] prevent those things we need
[1:44:20] extra deputies in our juvenile
[1:44:23] courts.
[1:44:24] Also mentioned in the hallways
[1:44:25] a lotta people they are in
[1:44:27] juvenile court they simply do
[1:44:34] not like each other and threats
[1:44:35] are made and we are asked to
[1:44:36] come in
[1:44:36] .
[1:44:40] Certainly we have to do that to
[1:44:41] protect everyone in the
[1:44:46] courthouse.
[1:44:47] Also high-profile trials
[1:44:48] require greater security.
[1:44:48] Sometimes we have to double
[1:44:55] screen people going in to make
[1:44:56] sure everyone is safe and make
[1:44:57] sure no one is carrying devices
[1:44:58] that could interfere with court
[1:44:59] proceedings.
[1:45:00] That requires extra deputies
[1:45:22] .
[1:45:22] I want to make sure.
[1:45:24] Me back this one up
[1:45:24] .
[1:45:27] Improve courtroom security
[1:45:28] enables transport for increase
[1:45:32] deputy safety is something I
[1:45:33] want to focus on to make sure
[1:45:34] the board understands the
[1:45:37] importance of having two
[1:46:04] deputies owner transports.
[1:46:09] And establish a dedicated --
[1:46:18] excuse me.
[1:46:19] >> I think we are interfering
[1:46:24] with your progress here, sir.
[1:46:35] >> slide number 18.
[1:46:35] >> thank you.
[1:46:38] Additionally support inventory
[1:46:43] management procurement and
[1:46:43] operations are currently one
[1:46:44] civilian is managing the
[1:46:48] accounts payable those duties
[1:46:49] include purchase orders,
[1:46:52] accounts available, traveler
[1:46:53] funding itineraries,
[1:46:54] expeditions, off-duty detail
[1:46:58] management
[1:46:58] , supply purchases,
[1:47:05] issuing equipment
[1:47:06] , procurement
[1:47:06] allocations.
[1:47:07] In addition we helping
[1:47:08] alleviate the current work load
[1:47:09] to better support the crucial
[1:47:11] functions of our office
[1:47:11] .
[1:47:17] And simply one person has a lot
[1:47:21] to do and basically with work
[1:47:25] and needing in seville and help
[1:47:30] us manage that position.
[1:47:31] Some requesting one civilian
[1:47:32] position to assist in managing
[1:47:34] our request
[1:47:35] , social media,
[1:47:44] graphic designs and it.
[1:47:45] Are service levels performance
[1:47:48] .
[1:47:49] Is easy our cases increased
[1:47:57] from fy 24 from 230 to over
[1:47:57] 240.
[1:47:58] Our security screenings
[1:48:00] increased to 305,000.
[1:48:01] Are is in our courtroom
[1:48:04] facility increased to 4 to
[1:48:07] 7629.
[1:48:08] Police assist.
[1:48:11] Now, when I'm talking about
[1:48:12] most of the hours we have to
[1:48:16] bring in deputies to assist us
[1:48:19] in the courtroom increased to
[1:48:21] 47,000 hours
[1:48:21] .
[1:48:27] Police assist in the hours pick
[1:48:28] these are the hours we spent
[1:48:30] assisting police with our
[1:48:33] temporary detention orders
[1:48:33] .
[1:48:34] And as I mentioned
[1:48:35] , our offices
[1:48:40] want to be committed in the
[1:48:41] assisting our police because we
[1:48:42] know they are busy and we want
[1:48:43] to help them so they don't have
[1:48:51] to leave their duties.
[1:48:52] I want to thank you for
[1:48:53] allowing me to come before you
[1:48:53] today.
[1:48:53] I know it has been a lengthy
[1:48:54] presentation and I apologize
[1:48:59] for it please ask me any
[1:49:00] questions you have.
[1:49:01] >> Chair Jefferson: well, thank
[1:49:02] you so very much for coming
[1:49:03] here and giving us a thorough
[1:49:06] overview of the services and
[1:49:07] everything you provide the.
[1:49:08] I really wanted to focus in on
[1:49:13] something I saw on page 18 and
[1:49:14] 16.
[1:49:14] You don't have to bring it up.
[1:49:18] But you mention you provide
[1:49:19] court order transport to and
[1:49:20] from correctional and medical
[1:49:33] facilities
[1:49:34] .
[1:49:35] And on page 16 you mentioned
[1:49:35] the mental health hearings.
[1:49:36] I'm just curious about the roll
[1:49:37] of the crc.
[1:49:38] Will sheriff's deputies be
[1:49:38] responsible for those
[1:49:39] transports?
[1:49:40] Because some of them I assume
[1:49:40] won't be court order but what
[1:49:41] is your roll working with the
[1:49:41] crc?
[1:49:42] >> our roll by definition that
[1:49:47] when we get the khol's and
[1:49:48] orders, it's our responsibility
[1:49:48] by state code to do those
[1:49:50] transports.
[1:49:51] >> Chair Jefferson: all
[1:49:51] right.
[1:49:52] Supervisor gordy.
[1:49:55] >> Tom Gordy: thank you MADAM
[1:49:55] Chair.
[1:49:56] Just getting an update on the
[1:50:02] case pertaining to our
[1:50:03] district.
[1:50:04] i appreciate the work the
[1:50:04] sheriffs department has been
[1:50:05] doing in supporting the court
[1:50:06] cases that are certainly
[1:50:11] important to our community.
[1:50:12] A couple questions.
[1:50:16] Ith the
[1:50:17] change in law related to
[1:50:18] juvenile defendants on the
[1:50:21] inability to restrain them.
[1:50:24] In terms of transporting, when
[1:50:25] I worked with kids in different
[1:50:26] aspects of my life you could
[1:50:33] never have one child alone with
[1:50:34] another adult.
[1:50:34] Ou always need
[1:50:35] a second but it always required
[1:50:36] 1/3.
[1:50:37] How many people do you actually
[1:50:39] have to have in order to
[1:50:41] transport and secure in
[1:50:46] juvenile defendant between
[1:50:47] while they are in custody of
[1:50:50] the courthouse.
[1:50:50] >> we picked them up at the
[1:50:52] juvenile detention home most of
[1:50:57] the time we tried to send to
[1:50:57] deputies to pick them up.
[1:50:58] If it is only one child we send
[1:51:00] to deputies and we bring them
[1:51:04] to the courthouse for the court
[1:51:04] case.
[1:51:06] Nd wobbly are there we
[1:51:07] put them by themselves.
[1:51:10] We put
[1:51:11] them in over there juveniles
[1:51:14] with obvious reasons.
[1:51:15] One of the things that happened
[1:51:21] , we find out some history on
[1:51:22] the juvenile or if the
[1:51:24] juveniles acting a certain way
[1:51:27] we cannot by law put restraints
[1:51:29] on them
[1:51:29] .
[1:51:33] We have to get a special case
[1:51:36] before the judge and explain
[1:51:37] why we have to put restraints
[1:51:37] on them.
[1:51:40] And they just make
[1:51:41] rent our request
[1:51:47] .
[1:51:48] >> Tom Gordy: in terms of the
[1:51:49] increase of man hours and
[1:51:52] number personnel to facilitate
[1:51:56] this new policy
[1:51:57] .
[1:51:58] What has been the net impact on
[1:52:01] your staffing to meet the
[1:52:01] requirements.
[1:52:03] We know juvenile crime is not
[1:52:04] in decline
[1:52:07] .
[1:52:11] In terms of trying to manage
[1:52:15] under this new regime, what is
[1:52:16] that under your staffing
[1:52:19] requirements?
[1:52:20] >> it required us to bring in
[1:52:21] more deputies to the courtroom
[1:52:22] and we have to pull them from
[1:52:26] other duties to make sure there
[1:52:27] is order in the courtroom.
[1:52:28] Make sure decorum is in the
[1:52:30] courtroom and make sure no one
[1:52:35] gets hurt so it is always
[1:52:35] better to have extra deputies
[1:52:42] to help out.
[1:52:43] >> Tom Gordy: when we look at
[1:52:43] the 12 fte you are looking at,
[1:52:44] how much of that goes to
[1:52:45] helping alleviate some of the
[1:52:46] challenges that have been
[1:52:48] presented because of this new
[1:52:49] law.
[1:52:49] >> I intend about six in the
[1:52:52] courthouse in six in operation.
[1:52:53] As I mentioned earlier about
[1:53:02] the transports we have to do,
[1:53:03] those deputies would be
[1:53:04] assigned to assist with our
[1:53:05] process and transports.
[1:53:06] And of course all the deputies
[1:53:06] am asking for is going to help
[1:53:07] us out with high-profile trials
[1:53:12] and a lot of the court cases we
[1:53:12] have now that require extra
[1:53:13] deputies.
[1:53:17] Extra screening going into the
[1:53:19] court rooms.
[1:53:19] Also, there's a lot of activity
[1:53:23] in the hallways.
[1:53:24] they are there on both sides.
[1:53:24] We want to make sure that
[1:53:27] everyone is safe.
[1:53:30] Occasionally we do have
[1:53:31] disruptions, therefore the
[1:53:32] defense and the defendants
[1:53:42] also.
[1:53:43] >> Tom Gordy: okay.
[1:53:44] On the uniform we know you are
[1:53:45] having to upgrade uniforms
[1:53:45] across your force here can you
[1:53:46] give us more insight into what
[1:53:47] is driving that and how that is
[1:53:50] impacting your budget?
[1:53:50] >> yes.
[1:53:52] We are looking at changing the
[1:53:53] brown uniform to another
[1:53:55] uniform because the brown
[1:53:59] uniforms are so hard to get and
[1:54:01] it is hard to match up the
[1:54:04] colors but they do an
[1:54:06] outstanding job helping us
[1:54:07] , but
[1:54:07] that person is overwhelmed and
[1:54:11] because of all of the
[1:54:17] requirements meeting 1/4
[1:54:17] master.
[1:54:18] Keeping the records, issuing
[1:54:19] the uniforms, replacing
[1:54:22] uniforms and also handling the
[1:54:23] other duties such as overtime
[1:54:25] requirements that we have to
[1:54:26] process
[1:54:29] .
[1:54:30] That person is also responsible
[1:54:38] for that also.
[1:54:39] >> Tom Gordy: thank you.
[1:54:39] Appreciate it.
[1:54:40] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[1:54:40] boddye.
[1:54:41] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you for
[1:54:42] coming before us again.
[1:54:43] Appreciate everything you and
[1:54:44] your team can do to keep folks
[1:54:45] safe all throughout the
[1:54:45] community so I wanted to say
[1:54:46] that.
[1:54:50] I wanted to check in
[1:54:50] with you because
[1:54:50] you're
[1:54:51] obviously asking for more
[1:54:58] positions.
[1:54:59] How has hiring then?
[1:55:00] I know you had vacancies
[1:55:00] previously and have been
[1:55:01] working on that.
[1:55:03] Can you talk about that piece?
[1:55:08] >> filling vacancies is not
[1:55:08] easy.
[1:55:09] We are in a competitive process
[1:55:11] with other chores offices in
[1:55:12] the police department in the
[1:55:12] area.
[1:55:17] We have to be very competitive.
[1:55:18] I have not lowered my standards
[1:55:19] as far as recruiting
[1:55:19] .
[1:55:20] We want to make sure we get the
[1:55:23] best and the brightest to come
[1:55:26] to work
[1:55:26] .
[1:55:28] So it is a challenge
[1:55:29] .
[1:55:32] Our best recruiters are the
[1:55:32] people who work at the
[1:55:34] sheriff's office
[1:55:34] .
[1:55:35] They tell me they want to be
[1:55:41] able to helped me because they
[1:55:43] know what type we want and they
[1:55:44] actually go out and help us
[1:55:47] recruit those types of deputies
[1:55:53] so they want to work with them.
[1:55:54] >> Kenny Boddye: I always love
[1:55:55] it when we are trying to coach
[1:55:56] people from other places as
[1:55:57] opposed to the other way
[1:55:57] around.
[1:55:59] That is great to hear.
[1:56:00] I know we have had difficulty
[1:56:01] in the past.
[1:56:02] We've been trying to help you
[1:56:04] to get us where we need to be
[1:56:04] to make you a lot more
[1:56:07] attractive of an employer
[1:56:07] .
[1:56:08] I'm glad we have been working
[1:56:10] on that.
[1:56:11] Mother question to go in the
[1:56:14] other direction is on the same
[1:56:15] program I really appreciate
[1:56:16] everything you have been doing
[1:56:17] with that.
[1:56:18] Obviously literally lifesaving
[1:56:18] work
[1:56:21] .
[1:56:22] $15,000 I hate to say it.
[1:56:27] Is a very small amount of money
[1:56:28] and that is based on the
[1:56:29] waitlist he said you have your
[1:56:31] car you able to project out and
[1:56:33] tell us how much you MAY need
[1:56:38] with that knowing we have an
[1:56:38] aging population in prince
[1:56:40] william county and chances are
[1:56:43] the folks that we have
[1:56:43] .
[1:56:46] You said 90 something folks on
[1:56:49] it.
[1:56:50] That is underrepresented the
[1:56:53] people who need to be on it.
[1:56:56] Spoke project lifesaver is a
[1:56:56] program I am proud of.
[1:57:01] I don't want to say no to a
[1:57:04] family who put application
[1:57:04] .
[1:57:07] The 15,000 asking for is simply
[1:57:09] an amount to help us by
[1:57:13] additional equipment
[1:57:13] .
[1:57:14] Bracelets and batteries and
[1:57:17] other replacement equipment
[1:57:19] that we need for that program.
[1:57:21] Hopefully to 15,000 would last
[1:57:23] a year
[1:57:23] .
[1:57:27] As I mentioned earlier,
[1:57:28] sometimes when we go to our
[1:57:29] families to replace the
[1:57:33] bracelet, sometimes they get
[1:57:44] damaged and we want to make
[1:57:46] sure we have a good bracelet on
[1:57:46] the families.
[1:57:47] But one of the things I like
[1:57:48] about that program is the
[1:57:49] families like for us to come to
[1:57:49] the residence and visit with
[1:57:50] them.
[1:57:50] The kids absolutely love the
[1:57:51] deputies that come in.
[1:57:52] i get good comments from
[1:57:57] families about how we visit the
[1:57:58] families and the time we spend
[1:57:58] with them.
[1:57:59] So that is important.
[1:57:59] >> Kenny Boddye: I know you
[1:58:00] guys are popular with all age
[1:58:02] groups.
[1:58:03] I brought my son to an event
[1:58:03] different I think around JUNE
[1:58:13] and both of my kids got a lotta
[1:58:14] pictures with him.
[1:58:15] >> we start recruiting early.
[1:58:15] > Kenny Boddye: I don't know
[1:58:16] if my wife would be okay with
[1:58:17] you recruiting my son, but I
[1:58:17] would
[1:58:17] say.
[1:58:18] My last question if you would
[1:58:19] let me
[1:58:21] .
[1:58:22] In terms of the transportation
[1:58:25] piece, you narrowed in on why
[1:58:26] you need the extra folks and
[1:58:30] what have you and I appreciate
[1:58:34] the chair bringing up the
[1:58:36] crisis receiving center because
[1:58:37] the crisis receiving centers
[1:58:38] are established only in prince
[1:58:39] william county
[1:58:40] , how do you
[1:58:43] suspect both from our end but
[1:58:46] also with the crc centers being
[1:58:49] established closer frankly then
[1:58:50] where they have been.
[1:58:51] How do you see that helping you
[1:59:41] in the long run?
[1:59:53] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[1:59:54] so very much.
[1:59:55] I don't see anyone else in the
[1:59:55] cupid thank you so very much
[1:59:57] share film and to the people
[1:59:57] you brought out today for your
[1:59:58] team.
[1:59:58] We appreciate you and your
[1:59:59] work.
[1:59:59] >> thank you for allowing me to
[2:00:13] come before you.
[2:00:14] >> MR. Shorter: thank you met
[2:00:14] in turn members of the board.
[2:00:15] again, thank you for the
[2:00:16] presentation and for your
[2:00:17] service to the county.
[2:00:17] I will now ask our clerk jackie
[2:00:52] smith take over.
[2:00:52] >> what did I do?
[2:02:03] Customer
[2:02:04] service in the commonwealth
[2:02:06] always.
[2:02:07] We are professional, we inspire
[2:02:11] combatants, and our customers
[2:02:12] needs are met completely.
[2:02:21] We value our customers
[2:02:23] , the
[2:02:24] taxpayer dollar, our people,
[2:02:25] integrity and teamwork and we
[2:02:26] always remember that we serve
[2:02:28] the people of prince william
[2:02:28] manassas and manassas park.
[2:02:29] When most people think of the
[2:02:33] clerk of the court
[2:02:35] , they think
[2:02:35] of the person sitting left or
[2:02:36] right of the judge taking
[2:02:41] notes, assisting the judge,
[2:02:42] keeping the record but this is
[2:02:43] a small fraction with the clerk
[2:02:44] of the court does.
[2:02:51] Most notable probably for this
[2:02:52] type of meeting as we collect
[2:02:52] our recordation taxes for the
[2:02:53] county.
[2:02:54] Of course we create, maintain,
[2:02:59] and protect the official court
[2:02:59] record.
[2:03:00] We also issued concealed
[2:03:01] handgun permits as you heard
[2:03:02] from the sheriff earlier and we
[2:03:03] are again this year on target
[2:03:05] to produce more concealed
[2:03:05] handgun permits than any other
[2:03:06] jurisdiction in the
[2:03:11] commonwealth.
[2:03:12] We still do it faster than
[2:03:12] anyone else and we do it as
[2:03:13] cheap as you can find in the
[2:03:17] commonwealth.
[2:03:18] It's a service to our
[2:03:23] constituents picked are also
[2:03:24] under more duties described in
[2:03:25] the statute but these are the
[2:03:28] highlights.
[2:03:28] We work with multiple
[2:03:33] government agencies
[2:03:34] .
[2:03:35] Most notably we added fema this
[2:03:35] year.
[2:03:36] They contacted us with interest
[2:03:42] in our self-service kiosk to
[2:03:43] see how they can implement them
[2:03:44] in the federal government to
[2:03:45] benefit their operations.
[2:03:48] And so4 and annual update.
[2:03:53] We support safe and secure
[2:03:54] communities in many initiatives
[2:04:06] for the first is accessibility.
[2:04:07] We operate seals on wheels are
[2:04:08] fully mobile clerks office on
[2:04:09] saturdays once a month to
[2:04:10] provide services to prince
[2:04:10] william county residents as
[2:04:11] well as the residence of the
[2:04:12] two cities in a location
[2:04:13] convenient to them outside of
[2:04:16] normal business hours
[2:04:17] , give us
[2:04:18] a plug our last event is on
[2:04:19] gainesville district from
[2:04:22] 10:00to 1:00
[2:04:22] .
[2:04:23] We also host judicial center
[2:04:27] pop-ups which occur on campus
[2:04:29] after business hours to allow
[2:04:31] people who need to get their
[2:04:37] business done after working a
[2:04:38] full day have an opportunity to
[2:04:39] do that without having to take
[2:04:41] time off of work.
[2:04:42] As I mentioned earlier we
[2:04:51] deployed self-service kiosks
[2:04:52] throughout the county including
[2:04:53] in this building.
[2:04:54] Through the kiosks you can
[2:04:54] interact with our office.
[2:04:55] You can interact with other
[2:04:56] courts, pay your taxes and even
[2:05:01] registered to vote.
[2:05:01] We deployed kiosks at half of
[2:05:03] the county libraries and we are
[2:05:04] deploying another for this
[2:05:04] year.
[2:05:04] We will have three more to
[2:05:05] deploy the year after in this
[2:05:06] program is completely grand
[2:05:07] fund and park will some operate
[2:05:16] litigant self center.
[2:05:17] The self-help center is aimed
[2:05:18] at giving people access to the
[2:05:19] courts whether they can afford
[2:05:29] an attorney or not.
[2:05:30] We provide different legal
[2:05:31] resources as well as exemplars
[2:05:32] and forms some people take care
[2:05:33] of the business in the court
[2:05:34] been possible without the
[2:05:40] assistance of an attorney.
[2:05:41] Last year you MAY remember we
[2:05:42] launched our real property
[2:05:43] fraud alert service.
[2:05:44] This is a service we provide
[2:05:55] for free to our constituents
[2:05:59] .
[2:06:00] There are some services you can
[2:06:01] subscribe two for a
[2:06:02] subscription fee, but we were
[2:06:03] able to secure grant funding to
[2:06:04] provide service free of cost
[2:06:05] per call the resident asked to
[2:06:06] do is go on the system,
[2:06:07] register their property in any
[2:06:08] time someone tries to do any
[2:06:08] activity in land records on
[2:06:09] that property the registered
[2:06:17] owner will be notified.
[2:06:18] This doesn't prevent deed to
[2:06:19] fraud but it makes it a lot
[2:06:19] less harmful and a lot easier
[2:06:20] to correct if it should happen,
[2:06:27] which it has not in prince
[2:06:28] william county.
[2:06:28] We also provide free gun locks
[2:06:29] to promote safe and secure
[2:06:30] communities and we expanded our
[2:06:33] online services to include
[2:06:34] online scheduling, online
[2:06:35] probate of most wills, historic
[2:06:36] records were all our historic
[2:06:37] records can be accessed from
[2:06:42] your home and coming in MAY
[2:06:43] 2026 we will be announcing the
[2:06:44] artificially fully digitized in
[2:06:54] a record system.
[2:06:55] Another issue with
[2:06:56] accessibility has been the
[2:06:57] availability of parking at the
[2:06:58] judicial center.
[2:07:03] We undertook a lotta talk and
[2:07:04] research on how to improve this
[2:07:09] at a low to no cost
[2:07:10] .
[2:07:10] What we came up with was
[2:07:11] creating a network of google
[2:07:12] maps that show all of the
[2:07:13] available parking areas in and
[2:07:18] around the judicial center on
[2:07:19] the judicial center campus we
[2:07:21] have signage everywhere with qr
[2:07:27] code so people can scan it with
[2:07:28] their phone and have their
[2:07:29] phone direct them to the
[2:07:29] nearest available parking.
[2:07:33] We also expanded our language
[2:07:33] services.
[2:07:34] We can communicate with
[2:07:35] customers in more than 50
[2:07:37] different languages in writing
[2:07:42] and verbally.
[2:07:43] That offer an judicial ability
[2:07:51] has been recognized by virginia
[2:07:52] lawyers weekly, fox five, D.C.
[2:07:53] 101 and wto p news on the
[2:07:53] virginia state bar has
[2:08:06] appointed us to the access to
[2:08:07] legal services board to share
[2:08:08] innovations we brought to
[2:08:09] prince william to help spread
[2:08:10] them across the commonwealth
[2:08:11] the communities that would
[2:08:11] benefit.
[2:08:12] We also endeavor to provide
[2:08:14] civic education.
[2:08:22] We had our first annual fair on
[2:08:23] the square which is a private
[2:08:24] public partnership that brought
[2:08:24] together 60 local businesses
[2:08:25] and government agencies to
[2:08:26] share with the community what
[2:08:27] services were available.
[2:08:35] Although we didn't plan it this
[2:08:36] way it was timely with the
[2:08:36] government shutdown.
[2:08:37] There were a lot of people in
[2:08:38] need.
[2:08:38] It was well attended and we are
[2:08:40] looking forward to expanding it
[2:08:44] even further next year.
[2:08:45] We also were able to host a
[2:08:46] successful animal supply drive
[2:08:46] at that event.
[2:08:55] My office was full of dog food.
[2:08:55] We participate in the animal
[2:08:56] town of dumfries expungement
[2:08:57] clinic along with the
[2:08:58] constitutional officers.
[2:09:01] We also printed this
[2:09:01] participated in clinics in
[2:09:02] other communities but by far
[2:09:09] the town expungement clinic is
[2:09:09] the most popular and I would
[2:09:10] say it is down to the dumfries
[2:09:11] town council who does an
[2:09:24] excellent job running that
[2:09:24] event.
[2:09:25] We also host a student art
[2:09:26] contest every year for law day.
[2:09:26] The theme is always a
[2:09:27] constitutional theme and the
[2:09:28] children are asked to interpret
[2:09:29] that theme and what it means to
[2:09:29] them.
[2:09:30] It is open to prince william
[2:09:30] county school students,
[2:09:31] manasses
[2:09:32] , manassas park and private
[2:09:33] school students and homeschool
[2:09:39] students.
[2:09:40] As you probably realize we are
[2:09:41] and supervisor gordy district.
[2:09:52] Supervisor gordy has been so
[2:09:53] supportive of the art contest.
[2:09:54] I appreciate you entered a
[2:09:55] proclamation about the art
[2:09:55] contest.
[2:09:56] Supervisor gordy can then read
[2:09:57] it to the kids but they were
[2:09:57] very excited.
[2:09:58] I appreciate your support of
[2:10:01] that program.
[2:10:02] We also provide presentations
[2:10:03] and trainings to the league of
[2:10:05] voters, girl scouts and the
[2:10:12] scouts of america.
[2:10:13] We provide services to the
[2:10:18] justice like me initiative
[2:10:19] within the courthouse.
[2:10:25] Would provide access to
[2:10:26] different artifacts to
[2:10:27] homeschool groups to bring
[2:10:27] history alive for them based on
[2:10:28] what they are studying at that
[2:10:29] time.
[2:10:30] We also do that for different
[2:10:31] community groups who express
[2:10:32] interest.
[2:10:34] We are also focused on
[2:10:38] potential efficiency
[2:10:39] improvements.
[2:10:40] One of the greatest areas of
[2:10:42] the success we have seen is an
[2:10:43] employee developments
[2:10:49] satisfaction and retention.
[2:10:50] We have developed a three-tier
[2:10:52] training model for people
[2:10:52] , your
[2:10:58] employees we bring into our
[2:10:59] agency the first is the new
[2:11:00] employee skills training
[2:11:02] module.
[2:11:02] That is a one year module where
[2:11:05] one month our benchmarks to
[2:11:06] meet.
[2:11:08] E use the resources
[2:11:09] provided the county through pwc
[2:11:12] university.
[2:11:13] We also form discussion groups
[2:11:14] around the different lessons
[2:11:17] learned to set a bar of
[2:11:17] professionalism for our
[2:11:21] employees
[2:11:21] .
[2:11:22] And also to promote positive
[2:11:24] mental health.
[2:11:25] Because we can be put in very
[2:11:27] difficult situations in the
[2:11:31] courthouse and we interact with
[2:11:34] a law of different people every
[2:11:36] day and it can be difficult
[2:11:36] sometimes.
[2:11:40] But knowing our employees have
[2:11:41] that support within their own
[2:11:44] agency community.
[2:11:45] They have their classmates that
[2:11:46] I've gone through the same
[2:11:47] training has been very
[2:11:52] beneficial to help create solid
[2:11:53] partnerships within our agency
[2:11:54] and to promote employee
[2:11:54] retention.
[2:11:59] After that we have
[2:12:00] our rebound reality based rules
[2:12:01] of the workplace module which
[2:12:01] is sort of the next level.
[2:12:02] If you show promise for
[2:12:03] leadership in the office we
[2:12:07] will have you attend that class
[2:12:07] .
[2:12:08] It focuses on mental health,
[2:12:10] how we treat others, how we
[2:12:13] treat ourselves and after that
[2:12:14] level we look to the reality
[2:12:20] -based leadership program which
[2:12:20] we focus on taking all the
[2:12:22] tools we learned from the first
[2:12:27] two levels and taking it to the
[2:12:27] next level so you can be
[2:12:28] leadership and management
[2:12:28] within the office.
[2:12:30] On the systems are modeled
[2:12:38] after colin powell's addition
[2:12:39] program and we have modified it
[2:12:39] to be specialized to our
[2:12:40] agency.
[2:12:40] For fiscal responsibility we do
[2:12:46] an annual audit of all our
[2:12:47] expenditures to analyze their
[2:12:48] necessity.
[2:12:48] After six years we
[2:12:50] independently $5 million in
[2:12:52] grants.
[2:12:53] We used those grants to
[2:12:57] completely outfit seals on
[2:12:58] wheels for the preservation of
[2:12:59] our shared history and
[2:13:02] self-funded the renovation of
[2:13:02] our space in the judicial
[2:13:08] center.
[2:13:12] This year we added transparency
[2:13:14] as an office focus
[2:13:14] .
[2:13:16] We are primarily focused on
[2:13:23] better data analysis
[2:13:23] .
[2:13:24] We are analyzing service
[2:13:25] trends, community needs,
[2:13:25] community usage.
[2:13:26] Again, giving efficiency audits
[2:13:27] both in process and
[2:13:32] expenditure.
[2:13:33] We are looking at national
[2:13:34] trends that we are seeing in
[2:13:35] the courts and also evaluating
[2:13:36] court case volume and how we
[2:13:36] can best and most efficiently
[2:13:42] handled that.
[2:13:43] So for the new mandates, this
[2:13:43] is an interesting one.
[2:13:48] The
[2:13:48] rules of the supreme court of
[2:13:49] virginia dictate the operation
[2:13:56] of the circuit court and the
[2:13:57] supreme court has modified
[2:13:57] their rules in the past year to
[2:13:58] allow self represented
[2:14:06] litigants to e-file the self
[2:14:07] represented litigants had
[2:14:08] previously been excluded from
[2:14:09] e-filing or however, the
[2:14:10] systems we use which are
[2:14:10] provided by the supreme court
[2:14:11] of virginia do not allow for
[2:14:18] self represented litigants to
[2:14:19] e-file and indications are or
[2:14:19] representations are there
[2:14:20] aren't any plans to include
[2:14:21] this in the future.
[2:14:23] So we will talk about the cure
[2:14:24] for this issue a little later
[2:14:31] in the presentation.
[2:14:32] We also have a legislative
[2:14:32] mandate.
[2:14:33] Amended automatic ceiling of
[2:14:34] certain criminal cases from
[2:14:34] 1986 until the present about
[2:14:45] automatic in quotation marks
[2:14:46] because the code calls it
[2:14:47] automatic and it is for the
[2:14:48] citizen but someone has got to
[2:14:48] do it.
[2:14:49] We begin preparation for the
[2:14:50] significant undertaking in
[2:14:51] fiscal 23 with the help of
[2:14:52] smart budgeting by the county
[2:14:55] to accelerate our final
[2:14:56] digitization of our historic
[2:14:59] case files
[2:14:59] .
[2:15:00] The 100 percent digitization
[2:15:01] would be complete in MAY at 26
[2:15:11] which is ahead of schedule a
[2:15:12] right on time for this mandate
[2:15:13] her glass to the state
[2:15:13] compensation board in
[2:15:14] conjunction with the board of
[2:15:15] county supervisors funded a
[2:15:16] full-time equivalent employee
[2:15:16] who could fill that
[2:15:17] position
[2:15:24] almost immediately.
[2:15:25] She is already training for the
[2:15:26] project to begin JANUARY 1 but
[2:15:27] we are ready to hit the ground
[2:15:31] running when it comes.
[2:15:32] If there is no disruption of
[2:15:33] operations I have learned to
[2:15:34] say that since covid took no
[2:15:34] additional needs are
[2:15:35] anticipated to achieve this
[2:15:38] mandate.
[2:15:41] So service level trends your
[2:15:49] current jury pool is continuing
[2:15:50] to grow which means the amount
[2:15:51] of postage it costs to send out
[2:15:51] the jury
[2:15:51] questionnaires
[2:15:52] continues to grow.
[2:15:52] Ou can
[2:15:54] see from the graph the blue
[2:15:55] line is the number of jury
[2:15:57] questionnaires we need to send
[2:15:58] out each year.
[2:15:58] During that time period are
[2:16:09] posted budget has been static
[2:16:10] there's been no growth in that
[2:16:10] budget line hook I will share
[2:16:11] with you how we have been able
[2:16:12] to make up the shortfall and
[2:16:13] what we need to do for the
[2:16:14] future to prevent shortfall.
[2:16:18] We have seen rapid growth in
[2:16:19] the area of probate
[2:16:19] administration.
[2:16:28] We did anticipate this growth.
[2:16:29] We have been talking about it a
[2:16:30] few years.
[2:16:30] This year is the first year we
[2:16:31] saw a real spite, which is what
[2:16:37] I consider a spike.
[2:16:38] 14 percent.
[2:16:39] It's attributable in my opinion
[2:16:39] into the aging population, our
[2:16:40] population growth.
[2:16:41] We are seeing increased
[2:16:44] property values an increase
[2:16:44] asset complexity.
[2:16:45] We have also seen an increase
[2:16:46] in popularity of estate
[2:16:47] planning which is a wonderful
[2:16:48] thing our people are planning
[2:16:50] for their future.
[2:16:51] But it does more frequently
[2:16:52] require court intervention.
[2:16:58] We
[2:16:59] have also seen rapid growth
[2:17:00] this year in our self
[2:17:01] represented litigants center
[2:17:01] and law library.
[2:17:02] Specifically 30 percent
[2:17:09] increase in the number of
[2:17:10] residents served.
[2:17:10] I attribute this primarily to
[2:17:11] the fact we expanded the
[2:17:18] services we provide in the self
[2:17:19] represented litigants entered a
[2:17:20] knot just include circuit court
[2:17:21] but include general district
[2:17:21] court in the juvenile and
[2:17:31] relations courts.
[2:17:31] The clerks of those courts as
[2:17:32] well as the chief judges of
[2:17:33] those courts have been very
[2:17:34] helpful in allowing us to do
[2:17:35] that and maintain accurate
[2:17:36] exemplars and resources so we
[2:17:44] are happy to support that.
[2:17:45] That does not result in
[2:17:45] additional cost.
[2:17:46] Where we are seeing the
[2:17:47] additional cost need is in the
[2:17:51] resources not available
[2:17:52] digitally.
[2:17:53] there are some legal resources
[2:17:54] only available in print and
[2:17:58] their resources used regularly.
[2:17:59] So because of the nature of the
[2:18:00] law we are required to update
[2:18:04] or even replace the volumes
[2:18:05] every year and these are
[2:18:05] expensive books.
[2:18:06] Think back to buying textbooks
[2:18:11] for school.
[2:18:12] There expensive and the only
[2:18:14] increased in cost over the last
[2:18:14] three years by 20 percent which
[2:18:15] is attributable not just to the
[2:18:16] increase in the cost of goods
[2:18:17] but the rapid increase in the
[2:18:31] cost of postage.
[2:18:32] So here is an overview of the
[2:18:33] budget initiatives.
[2:18:33] Estore
[2:18:34] annual access fees revenue.
[2:18:35] The e-filing system upgrade
[2:18:36] drupal expansion postage, jury
[2:18:37] questionnaire return postage
[2:18:37] self represented law center in
[2:18:40] law library.
[2:18:54] We will go into each one.
[2:18:55] The first is to restore the
[2:18:55] excess fees revenue to the
[2:18:56] county.
[2:18:56] This is the second request.
[2:18:56] T
[2:18:57] has been included in the 2026
[2:18:58] county legislative priorities
[2:18:59] thank you.
[2:19:00] I appreciate that.
[2:19:00] Excess fees are those fees
[2:19:12] collected in excess of her
[2:19:13] state allotted budget.
[2:19:14] Those excess fees, two thirds
[2:19:15] of the fees are supposed to
[2:19:16] come back to the locality as
[2:19:17] unrestricted revenue.
[2:19:24] That revenue goes to the county
[2:19:24] to you to use as you deem fit.
[2:19:25] It does not go back to the
[2:19:26] clerks office, he goes to the
[2:19:27] county coffers and we will be
[2:19:28] working in richmond
[2:19:28] side-by-side this year to try
[2:19:30] to get that restored.
[2:19:35] Next we have the e-filing
[2:19:36] system for self represented
[2:19:39] litigants
[2:19:39] .
[2:19:40] As I mentioned, the supreme
[2:19:41] court has modified the rules to
[2:19:44] allow e-filing for self
[2:19:45] represented litigants as well
[2:19:46] as attorneys
[2:19:46] .
[2:19:49] We identified a compliant
[2:19:50] e-filing service currently
[2:20:03] functioning in some other
[2:20:04] localities comparable to prince
[2:20:04] william.
[2:20:05] It is working effectively.
[2:20:06] It's about $25,000 but it would
[2:20:07] be a seamless transition and
[2:20:08] allow self represented
[2:20:09] litigants and attorneys to
[2:20:10] e-file equally.
[2:20:11] It is also just a better, more
[2:20:11] streamlined system.
[2:20:13] It is more
[2:20:16] recently created.
[2:20:19] The jury pool expansion postage
[2:20:22] increase
[2:20:22] .
[2:20:24] Our jury pool continues to
[2:20:27] expand.
[2:20:31] The way the jury process starts
[2:20:32] is the chief judge orders
[2:20:33] questionnaires be sent out to
[2:20:34] residents
[2:20:34] .
[2:20:41] Those questionnaires ask
[2:20:41] questions that would inform us
[2:20:42] if someone is qualified to
[2:20:43] serve on a jury or not.
[2:20:44] Are you over 18, are you a
[2:20:47] citizen of the united states,
[2:20:48] are you a resident of the 31st
[2:20:48] judicial circuit.
[2:20:51] The clerk then collects all the
[2:20:53] answers to those questionnaires
[2:20:56] and appoints jury commissioners
[2:21:02] to look at all the responses
[2:21:03] and decide is this person
[2:21:04] qualified or is this person not
[2:21:06] qualified.
[2:21:07] If someone says I'm 17 years
[2:21:08] old they go into the
[2:21:10] nonqualified pile.
[2:21:11] All the questionnaires deemed
[2:21:15] qualified
[2:21:15] , supervisor stewart
[2:21:16] knows well.
[2:21:16] E served as a
[2:21:17] jury commissioner.
[2:21:20] All of those people get a
[2:21:20] summons.
[2:21:21] For some point in the year to
[2:21:22] report to the circuit court for
[2:21:28] duty.
[2:21:28] That doesn't mean they won't
[2:21:29] sit on the jury.
[2:21:30] Doesn't mean they're going to
[2:21:34] come to the court, but it means
[2:21:35] they have to be at the rate he
[2:21:35] should the need arise for
[2:21:35] their
[2:21:36] services on a given day.
[2:21:43] They call us every monday or
[2:21:44] every tuesday or every
[2:21:45] wednesday that month or look at
[2:21:46] our social media preferably.
[2:21:46] And see do I have to
[2:21:47] report this
[2:21:47] day?
[2:21:48] We are faced with quite a lot
[2:21:51] of postage given the
[2:21:52] questionnaires have to be
[2:21:53] mailed.
[2:21:54] The jury summons have to be
[2:21:58] mailed and sometimes there is
[2:22:02] back-and-forth to make up that
[2:22:03] shortfall we have I'm looking
[2:22:04] for $73,000.
[2:22:06] Again
[2:22:07] , this budget line is not
[2:22:13] been increased in over 15 years
[2:22:14] progressive 15 years because
[2:22:14] that's the records we have.
[2:22:15] I don't know the last time it
[2:22:22] was updated but it is time.
[2:22:23] Also related to postage is jury
[2:22:28] questionnaire return postage.
[2:22:29] Because we had a shortfall in
[2:22:30] availability of postage sending
[2:22:31] out the juror questionnaires
[2:22:31] ,
[2:22:31] we had to make up the
[2:22:37] shortfall.
[2:22:37] The way we made up the
[2:22:38] shortfall was we did not
[2:22:39] provide return postage for our
[2:22:45] residents to return there jury
[2:22:46] questionnaires.
[2:22:46] It did result in some
[2:22:47] complaints.
[2:22:48] More complaints than we would
[2:22:50] have expected.
[2:22:51] But in order to eliminate the
[2:22:53] undue burden to the citizens to
[2:22:54] provide what is almost a dollar
[2:22:58] now for a stamp and frequently
[2:22:59] the larger issue is the
[2:23:00] inconvenience of going to buy a
[2:23:01] stamp.
[2:23:02] I'm asking we have a separate
[2:23:04] line item $26,000 to cover that
[2:23:12] return postage.
[2:23:13] It would be business reply
[2:23:13] mail.
[2:23:14] We only pay for the postage we
[2:23:15] use but our citizens would have
[2:23:24] the option to do that.
[2:23:25] Finally, our self represented
[2:23:26] litigants center and law
[2:23:26] library.
[2:23:26] As I mentioned, the number
[2:23:27] customer served increased by 30
[2:23:37] percent this year.
[2:23:38] Our services have expanded to
[2:23:39] include all three levels of
[2:23:39] court.
[2:23:40] The cost to update and replace
[2:23:41] the print materials has
[2:23:41] increased by 20 percent over
[2:23:42] the last three years.
[2:23:43] We are looking to make that on.
[2:23:44] I should add that this is one
[2:23:45] of the areas where we are
[2:23:46] continually evaluating the
[2:23:50] expenditure because it is my
[2:23:50] hope the printed materials that
[2:23:52] are quite costly will
[2:23:53] eventually be available by
[2:23:54] electronic subscription
[2:23:54] .
[2:23:57] So every year we audit the
[2:23:59] collection to see can we shift
[2:24:00] more over to the electronic
[2:24:04] site
[2:24:05] , but as of right now this
[2:24:09] is where we stand.
[2:24:10] Again, that's our summary of
[2:24:14] the request.
[2:24:14] Thank you again for having me
[2:24:16] here to speak with you.
[2:24:17] Thank you to those of you who
[2:24:19] visited our office
[2:24:25] .
[2:24:26] You have almost 65 county
[2:24:26] employees out in our office and
[2:24:27] if you haven't stop by I am
[2:24:31] sure we would be happy to meet
[2:24:31] with you.
[2:24:32] And I hope you will join us
[2:24:32] saturday I gainesville
[2:24:33] haymarket library from 10:00to
[2:24:39] 1:00for our sales on wheels.
[2:24:39] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[2:24:51] for coming and thank you for
[2:24:52] everything your office does.
[2:24:53] I love seeing when you guys pop
[2:24:54] up somewhere like montclair
[2:24:55] library and all the services
[2:24:56] you are able to provide.
[2:24:56] Supervisor franklin?
[2:24:57] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:24:58] thank you.
[2:24:59] Thank you for the presentation
[2:24:59] and thank you for the tour I
[2:25:00] took recently.
[2:25:01] I got a lot more insight into
[2:25:01] how everyone is doing their
[2:25:02] best
[2:25:02] work together within our
[2:25:03] court system.
[2:25:06] A quick question.
[2:25:07] On slide 16 were mentioned
[2:25:10] about the number of trials
[2:25:11] requiring jurors to being
[2:25:11] summoned.
[2:25:12] It's a that is in decline
[2:25:14] .
[2:25:17] Is that for civil or criminal?
[2:25:21] >> we don't break it out by
[2:25:21] civil took a mental pick these
[2:25:22] are statistics that come out
[2:25:25] our jury division
[2:25:25] .
[2:25:26] When we have a jury trial on
[2:25:29] the docket, if it hasn't been
[2:25:30] resolved prior to the night
[2:25:32] before the trial we have to
[2:25:33] summon the jurors to come in
[2:25:40] here sometimes the case might
[2:25:41] resolve that morning.
[2:25:42] Sometimes it might resolve
[2:25:43] later in the morning, but we
[2:25:44] have to have the jurors
[2:25:44] available in case the case goes
[2:25:52] forward
[2:25:52] .
[2:25:53] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:25:54] understood.
[2:25:54] Thank you.
[2:25:55] MR. Shorter, if someone can
[2:25:56] remind me with regard to the
[2:25:57] annual excess fees if that is
[2:26:04] in our legislative agenda
[2:26:05] .
[2:26:05] I think it is.
[2:26:06] > it is included.
[2:26:06] E work
[2:26:07] with the clerks office months
[2:26:08] ago to include the language in
[2:26:08] the agenda.
[2:26:09] >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[2:26:10] know we talked a little bit
[2:26:13] about it on obviously the state
[2:26:14] gets a lot of money when they
[2:26:15] are not returning it back to
[2:26:15] the counties.
[2:26:16] We will do as much as we can to
[2:26:17] push for that within our
[2:26:21] delegation so thank you.
[2:26:22] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:26:23] Supervisor bailey.
[2:26:28] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:26:29] thank you MADAM Chair.
[2:26:30] Thank you for your
[2:26:30] presentation.
[2:26:31] You and the sheriff did a great
[2:26:32] job making sure we totally
[2:26:34] understand what you do and why
[2:26:34] you need.
[2:26:35] i really appreciate both
[2:26:35] presentations.
[2:26:37] My question to
[2:26:41] you is you are a very
[2:26:49] innovative in securing grants
[2:26:49] .
[2:26:49] Do you foresee, as you go
[2:26:51] forward, that being interrupted
[2:26:55] at all, if you will, in the
[2:26:56] plan you have, the strategic
[2:26:57] plan you have for your
[2:26:57] department?
[2:27:02] >> so we evaluated all the
[2:27:03] grants we received right now.
[2:27:06] He recurring grants we have
[2:27:09] that are virtually zero risk of
[2:27:12] going away.
[2:27:16] The restoration grants that we
[2:27:17] get from the library of
[2:27:17] virginia
[2:27:24] we used to take books.
[2:27:25] We refer to them as our ancient
[2:27:25] books, but books from the early
[2:27:29] 1700s, even early 1800s that
[2:27:30] are sort of deteriorating.
[2:27:31] The library of virginia we can
[2:27:33] apply to for grants to restore
[2:27:39] those books pick those grants
[2:27:39] are?
[2:27:40] Right now but we don't plan to
[2:27:43] rely on those grants.
[2:27:44] Those are nice to have but if
[2:27:54] we don't have them the book is
[2:27:55] going to have to wait another
[2:27:56] year.
[2:27:56] It's not a question of having a
[2:27:57] shortfall of the budget.
[2:27:58] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:27:59] another question is in
[2:28:00] reference to that, are you
[2:28:01] looking to digitize any of your
[2:28:01] documents in the office to make
[2:28:07] sure they are restored in that
[2:28:07] regard?
[2:28:08] That is going to be a cost as
[2:28:10] well.
[2:28:10] >> as of MAY we will be 100
[2:28:20] percent digitized the
[2:28:20] digitization of the historic
[2:28:21] books is a little more
[2:28:21] difficult.
[2:28:22] When digitization first
[2:28:23] started, we were doing it by
[2:28:24] photograph because they were
[2:28:25] browned, very brittle books.
[2:28:31] Ut when we have a grant or
[2:28:32] available funds to send it to
[2:28:33] an actual restore, they
[2:28:35] completely diss and symbol the
[2:28:35] book and they do a high-quality
[2:28:39] scam of every single page and
[2:28:49] then bind that into a book.
[2:28:50] If you didn't see downside to
[2:28:51] know this was a new book when
[2:28:51] you opened it up you would
[2:28:53] thank you were looking at the
[2:28:53] original.
[2:28:54] So we do have digital images of
[2:28:55] everything.
[2:28:55] They are not the best.
[2:29:02] We use the grant monies to make
[2:29:03] them the best and restore the
[2:29:03] physical book.
[2:29:04] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:29:05] the last question, if I MAY.
[2:29:06] For the expungement clinics and
[2:29:07] they been quite successful
[2:29:08] since the inception of them
[2:29:13] starting the program.
[2:29:14] How do you see that program
[2:29:21] expanding across the county?
[2:29:22] >> we have had other elected
[2:29:23] officials reach out to hold
[2:29:26] expungement fairs
[2:29:26] .
[2:29:27] I don't know if it is a
[2:29:33] question of need but they just
[2:29:33] haven't been as popular of
[2:29:38] dumfries.
[2:29:39] The town of dumfries does a
[2:29:40] phenomenal job promoting the
[2:29:41] event, draining the people
[2:29:42] working the event, and making
[2:29:43] sure we have the resources
[2:29:43] to
[2:29:44] successfully kick off the event
[2:29:58] .
[2:29:59] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:30:00] thank you MADAM Chair.
[2:30:01] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[2:30:01] i don't have any other
[2:30:02] questions or comments and thank
[2:30:03] you very much for coming here
[2:30:03] today.
[2:30:04] I also want to recognize we
[2:30:05] have our chief public defender
[2:30:06] tracy here with us as well
[2:30:14] today.
[2:30:15] >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:30:17] Chair and members of the board.
[2:30:17] And again, to our clerk jackie
[2:30:18] smith, thank you for the
[2:30:18] presentation.
[2:30:19] The next presentation we have.
[2:30:21] Really excited about this
[2:30:21] presentation.
[2:30:22] Rachel taylor from our office
[2:30:25] of community safety will come
[2:30:26] forward and talk about domestic
[2:30:26] violence fatality review.
[2:30:28] This is a long-standing
[2:30:28] opportunity for us.
[2:30:30] I think we
[2:30:34] are going to have our deputy
[2:30:35] county executive kick this
[2:30:39] presentation off.
[2:30:40] This was a very good
[2:30:43] opportunity for the county to
[2:30:48] have this review happening.
[2:30:49] Spoke thank you.
[2:30:56] Deputy county executive.
[2:30:57] Thank you for the opportunity
[2:30:58] to share and represents a
[2:30:59] milestone in our work to build
[2:31:00] a safer more resilient prince
[2:31:00] william county.
[2:31:04] We are proud to launch the
[2:31:05] domestic violence review team.
[2:31:06] Multidisciplinary initiative
[2:31:07] rooted in their mission is
[2:31:10] office a community safety.
[2:31:11] Circumference and well-being as
[2:31:22] a community we use lessons from
[2:31:23] the fatality review is to spot
[2:31:23] missed
[2:31:24] warning signs.
[2:31:29] Improve service coronation and
[2:31:30] do more effective intervention
[2:31:31] for individuals and families at
[2:31:32] risk.
[2:31:34] we are putting a process in
[2:31:37] place to reduce breakdowns,
[2:31:38] ensuring we learn what leads to
[2:31:39] better outcomes
[2:31:45] .
[2:31:46] It is about improving the
[2:31:47] entire community safety
[2:31:47] ecosystem.
[2:31:48] The review team is part of a
[2:31:49] larger counsel focused on a
[2:31:52] holistic approach to how we
[2:31:58] deal with domestic violence.
[2:31:59] And certainly reflects our
[2:32:00] offices roll less convenient,
[2:32:09] connector, and capacity builder
[2:32:09] across systems.
[2:32:10] With that it is my
[2:32:10] pleasure to
[2:32:11] introduce doctor.
[2:32:11] [Name] And rachel taylor to
[2:32:12] provide more detail about the
[2:32:13] council, the team, and the
[2:32:13] process.
[2:32:18] Thank you.
[2:32:19] >> thank you MADAM Chair and
[2:32:21] members of the board.
[2:32:22] I am the director of the office
[2:32:24] I community safety.
[2:32:32] As dan reiterated, the domestic
[2:32:33] -- is part our offices larger
[2:32:33] effort in creating data
[2:32:38] informed pathways
[2:32:39] .
[2:32:40] Over the last year as MS.
[2:32:40] Taylor will discuss, the data
[2:32:41] we compiled really proves that
[2:32:42] there is a need for further
[2:32:43] development of coordinated
[2:32:49] response pathways.
[2:32:50] What we have been working on is
[2:32:50] the improvement of the
[2:32:51] ecosystem around prevention and
[2:32:52] intervention.
[2:32:57] As well as risk identification.
[2:32:58] And so it is really just one
[2:32:58] effort in the revival of our
[2:33:04] domestic violence counsel which
[2:33:05] leads as well as our
[2:33:06] replacement triage work with
[2:33:07] our agency partners.
[2:33:08] remote positive MS. Taylor
[2:33:12] .
[2:33:19] >> thank you did dan alexander
[2:33:20] and doctor.
[2:33:20] [Name].
[2:33:21] I would like to thank the board
[2:33:22] and MADAM Chair for the
[2:33:23] opportunity to come and talk to
[2:33:23] you today.
[2:33:24] Domestic violence in the states
[2:33:27] kills three people every day
[2:33:27] .
[2:33:28] It is also the leading cause of
[2:33:29] death among pregnant women
[2:33:31] across the nation
[2:33:31] .
[2:33:32] Nationally and account for one
[2:33:43] in every five homicides that is
[2:33:44] 15 to 20 percent parking
[2:33:45] virginia the picture is a
[2:33:45] little bit more bleak with
[2:33:46] about 20 to 25 percent of all
[2:33:47] homicides been linked to
[2:33:48] domestic violence can print
[2:33:48] with them county we find the
[2:33:54] numbers to be even more serious
[2:33:55] with an average of 30 percent
[2:33:56] of all homicides attributed to
[2:33:57] domestic violence broken 2024
[2:33:58] that number was 45 percent.
[2:34:00] Since 2020 ask who operates our
[2:34:02] local domestic violence hotline
[2:34:04] , since 2020 days on increase
[2:34:13] in calls for help 500 percent.
[2:34:14] At the office a community
[2:34:15] safety we joined with community
[2:34:16] partners addressing this
[2:34:17] critical issue by reviving
[2:34:19] domestic violence counsel in
[2:34:19] conducting domestic violence
[2:34:20] resource mapping, conducting a
[2:34:21] gap analysis we identified
[2:34:22] there are scarce resources for
[2:34:23] victims within our county.
[2:34:26] In particular concern is the
[2:34:27] fact only emergency safe house
[2:34:35] only has five bedrooms for a
[2:34:36] population of 500,000 people.
[2:34:36] We one forensic nurse for the
[2:34:37] entire county that is also at
[2:34:38] this time unable to serve
[2:34:42] children so all children in the
[2:34:43] vast majority of victims have
[2:34:44] to go to neighboring counties
[2:34:45] to get forensic exams.
[2:34:46] The fatality review works is a
[2:35:01] type of social autopsy for our
[2:35:02] community.
[2:35:03] It includes the analysis of
[2:35:04] local homicides to identify
[2:35:05] systems gaps, improve agency
[2:35:06] collaboration, and strengthen
[2:35:07] prevention efforts to reduce
[2:35:07] future deaths.
[2:35:08] Who's at risk in the community
[2:35:09] are questions we would like to
[2:35:10] have answered.
[2:35:11] Want to know what is the
[2:35:11] information related to
[2:35:12] characteristics of violence in
[2:35:13] the relationship of those
[2:35:14] involved reported the red flags
[2:35:15] for domestic violence within
[2:35:15] prince william county what are
[2:35:16] the resources in our community
[2:35:17] more importantly, are they
[2:35:17] working?
[2:35:18] From these conclusions how does
[2:35:23] the team prevent future
[2:35:24] domestic violence fatalities
[2:35:24] pick the work being done here
[2:35:25] among our community has been
[2:35:38] truly inspiring following
[2:35:39] training provided by the
[2:35:40] national domestic violence
[2:35:41] fatality review initiative out
[2:35:42] of arizona state university, we
[2:35:43] created an interagency
[2:35:44] agreement and protocol to
[2:35:45] hopefully establish the greater
[2:35:46] principal and county domestic
[2:35:47] violence fatality review team
[2:35:47] through this effort included
[2:35:49] the signature of 16 agencies so
[2:35:49] far with hopefully more to
[2:35:50] come.
[2:35:50] I would like to recognize she
[2:35:51] public defender office tracy.
[2:35:52] We have acting director, and
[2:35:59] adjusted services
[2:36:00] .
[2:36:00] [Name] And the domestic
[2:36:01] violence coordinator oksana
[2:36:02] sure from prince william county
[2:36:03] police.
[2:36:03] In addition would like to point
[2:36:04] out this is indeed the greater
[2:36:05] prince william county fatality
[2:36:06] review.
[2:36:07] We representation signed the
[2:36:08] principal and county police
[2:36:09] department as well as manassas
[2:36:09] city of manassas park with
[2:36:10] hopefully more to grow.
[2:36:12] The foundation however is built
[2:36:13] upon confidentiality.
[2:36:16] Under code section 32.1-283.3
[2:36:17] the records are confidential
[2:36:26] and they are not subject to
[2:36:27] virginia freedom of information
[2:36:27] act.
[2:36:27] Review materials cannot
[2:36:29] be subpoenaed, requested in
[2:36:29] discovery were used as evidence
[2:36:30] in any civil or criminal case
[2:36:31] pickup would like to note on
[2:36:32] the cases under review are
[2:36:36] completely closed.
[2:36:37] There is no pending litigation,
[2:36:38] no investigations of civil or
[2:36:39] criminal matter.
[2:36:39] Participants cannot be
[2:36:40] compelled to testify about what
[2:36:41] occurred during the fatality
[2:36:42] review or what information was
[2:36:50] collected and civil immunity
[2:36:51] applies to team members and
[2:36:52] anyone providing information
[2:36:53] unless there is gross
[2:36:53] negligence or
[2:36:54] willfulness
[2:36:54] conduct.
[2:36:55] And recognize initiative in
[2:36:56] principle them county, we join
[2:36:57] 20 other teams across the
[2:36:58] commonwealth, 49 other states
[2:37:01] in the nation and several other
[2:37:01] countries that are also
[2:37:02] conducting these important
[2:37:03] reviews.
[2:37:03] we are all working to
[2:37:05] implement, prevent, implement
[2:37:08] and build resiliency.
[2:37:09] So far the committee members
[2:37:10] and the greater prince william
[2:37:26] county developed their mission,
[2:37:27] vision, values, team protocol
[2:37:28] an interagency agreement.
[2:37:29] In order to proceed under the
[2:37:30] protection of the code of
[2:37:30] virginia we respectfully ask
[2:37:31] today the prince william county
[2:37:33] board of supervisors recognizes
[2:37:34] and supports the creation of
[2:37:35] the greater prince william
[2:37:35] domestic violence fatality
[2:37:36] review team.
[2:37:36] Thank you.
[2:37:37] >> Chair Jefferson: think is a
[2:37:38] very much.
[2:37:39] Supervisor bailey?
[2:37:42] >> thank you for your
[2:37:44] presentation.
[2:37:45] Thank you for your presentation
[2:37:49] and elevating the importance of
[2:37:52] this program.
[2:37:53] It is something that dan and I
[2:37:54] talked about when we first came
[2:37:55] on board
[2:37:55] .
[2:37:58] Something resonating in our
[2:38:01] communities
[2:38:01] .
[2:38:02] Something the percentage of the
[2:38:06] need is increased since covid
[2:38:07] so we are way overdue
[2:38:07] .
[2:38:11] I totally support how we go
[2:38:12] forward because it is
[2:38:18] absolutely essential and there
[2:38:18] are advocates in our community.
[2:38:20] I know specifically in mind
[2:38:20] district when they did their
[2:38:24] annual breast cancer
[2:38:25] awareness/domestic violence
[2:38:27] month awareness program that
[2:38:28] are interested in this
[2:38:29] endeavor.
[2:38:33] So thank you for your foresight
[2:38:33] and again, back to mental
[2:38:38] health
[2:38:39] , you will the land and
[2:38:39] protecting our citizens so I
[2:38:43] really, really appreciate it.
[2:38:44] >> thank you.
[2:38:44] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:38:46] boddye
[2:38:46] .
[2:38:47] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you dan,
[2:38:48] doctor.
[2:38:51] [Name], MS. Taylor for this
[2:38:51] .
[2:38:52] Long time coming, glad you are
[2:39:01] able to provide that previous
[2:39:01] efforts and inject new life
[2:39:02] into something near and dear to
[2:39:03] the hearts of everyone on the
[2:39:04] dais and throughout the
[2:39:04] community.
[2:39:05] We know often the percentages
[2:39:11] on the stats, a law and this
[2:39:12] happens by folks with closes in
[2:39:13] proximity and it happens
[2:39:13] unfortunately when there are
[2:39:14] warning signs we just don't
[2:39:15] have enough resources to sense
[2:39:22] at a time.
[2:39:23] This really gets at the heart
[2:39:23] of that.
[2:39:24] It is my hope that as you
[2:39:25] continue to build your team,
[2:39:28] build the work move to identify
[2:39:29] cases and talk to folks and
[2:39:30] what have you, they are able to
[2:39:36] see those warning signs
[2:39:37] hopefully save the lives and
[2:39:38] change the trajectory of
[2:39:40] everyone involved in these
[2:39:41] situations
[2:39:46] .
[2:39:46] Obviously I'm going to be
[2:39:48] supporting this
[2:39:50] .
[2:39:54] Once you get our support and
[2:39:55] are able to establish this team
[2:39:57] would have you what are your
[2:40:00] immediate next steps and to
[2:40:01] model I have seen pop up around
[2:40:06] the region around the country
[2:40:07] are the family justice centers
[2:40:07] that have a broader continuum
[2:40:10] on this and get at the heart
[2:40:11] similar to what we do in the
[2:40:12] child advocacy centers abroad
[2:40:13] in that out to the entire
[2:40:14] family and the victims we are
[2:40:15] talking about here.
[2:40:17] Can you
[2:40:17] talk about that and with the
[2:40:20] forward vision is?
[2:40:21] >> I love what your head is at.
[2:40:30] Immediate steps
[2:40:30] .
[2:40:31] We are fortunate to have doctor
[2:40:31] neil and his team at the
[2:40:32] national domestic violence
[2:40:33] fatality review initiative.
[2:40:34] He literally invented fatality
[2:40:35] review back in 1990.
[2:40:36] We have been working with his
[2:40:36] team to do our training earlier
[2:40:37] this year like I said.
[2:40:42] We are also going to be in the
[2:40:43] back and up conduct our very
[2:40:44] first review and figure out how
[2:40:48] to select that case.
[2:40:48] Into moving ahead as he said
[2:40:49] there are so many
[2:40:50] opportunities, family justice
[2:40:53] center is wonderful.
[2:40:54] As we develop our data and
[2:40:54] understand the circumstances a
[2:40:55] little bit more we will find
[2:40:56] out what that would need to
[2:40:57] look like here in prince
[2:40:58] william.
[2:41:04] Thank you.
[2:41:05] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:41:06] franklin.
[2:41:07] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:41:07] thank you.
[2:41:10] Thank you for the presentation.
[2:41:11] I would point out, and you
[2:41:12] alluded to this.
[2:41:18] In 2024, particularly as most
[2:41:19] crimes of prince william county
[2:41:19] was on the decrease, incidents
[2:41:20] of domestic violence was
[2:41:21] actually on the increase.
[2:41:22] This is incredibly important.
[2:41:24] i do have a couple of questions
[2:41:24] .
[2:41:28] Once this is fully set up, are
[2:41:32] you looking to derive more data
[2:41:33] from some of these domestic
[2:41:35] violence cases and then turn
[2:41:37] them into recommendations for
[2:41:42] how to handle some of these
[2:41:43] cases?
[2:41:44] >> absolutely.
[2:41:45] Applications are determined
[2:41:50] upon what we find, but ideally
[2:41:50] we would be being able to
[2:41:55] compile regular reports that
[2:41:56] would to be provided to the
[2:41:57] board itself, and the community
[2:42:13] members and agencies
[2:42:18] .
[2:42:20] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:42:21] okay.
[2:42:22] There is a data point where you
[2:42:22] collect all the data and then
[2:42:23] you develop recommendations
[2:42:23] from their
[2:42:24] >> that is correct.
[2:42:25] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:42:26] how does this relate to the
[2:42:27] community safety initiative.
[2:42:27] Is it part of it, under it,
[2:42:28] working in
[2:42:28] tandem?
[2:42:29] >> the community safety
[2:42:30] initiative, as a goal of a
[2:42:31] convenient couple together
[2:42:32] these court and then the
[2:42:33] community responses.
[2:42:33] One of the things I will notice
[2:42:34] there is domestic violence
[2:42:35] counsel prior to the pandemic
[2:42:36] but it fell apart.
[2:42:36] Through the work
[2:42:37] here with the
[2:42:38] county what we found is people
[2:42:39] volunteering their time to come
[2:42:39] together and really trying to
[2:42:47] pull this up, however, it is
[2:42:48] unstable unless there is a
[2:42:48] particularly clear entity for
[2:42:49] that.
[2:42:50] And so here we are able to
[2:42:50] spearhead that I make sure that
[2:42:51] there is continuity so that way
[2:42:52] we don't lose this again and we
[2:42:53] don't look away from this
[2:42:54] really important topic in the
[2:42:54] future.
[2:43:01] I don't know if we would like
[2:43:01] more expansion on that?
[2:43:02] >> briefly, if you think about
[2:43:03] the connective tissue around
[2:43:04] what we do it is driven by
[2:43:05] engagement informed by evidence
[2:43:12] and ecosystem
[2:43:12] .
[2:43:13] And so there are a number of
[2:43:14] areas we identify domestic
[2:43:15] violence being a big one.
[2:43:16] We talked about human
[2:43:23] trafficking a little bit.
[2:43:24] We are on gangs right now with
[2:43:24] another member.
[2:43:25] There are focus areas that
[2:43:26] allow us in this office is a
[2:43:27] convenient to reach across
[2:43:27] systems where we typically
[2:43:28] haven't to the degree that we
[2:43:29] can now and drive work along
[2:43:30] three elements I talked about
[2:43:30] earlier.
[2:43:35] This is absolutely an important
[2:43:35] program piece to the work we
[2:43:36] are doing broadly in the
[2:43:37] office.
[2:43:37] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:43:45] thank you for that.
[2:43:45] Thank you for the work we are
[2:43:46] doing.
[2:43:47] MR. Shorter, maybe we could at
[2:43:47] some point get an update on the
[2:43:48] overall community safety
[2:43:49] initiative to see how the
[2:43:50] working group is going to to
[2:43:50] see how things are looking to
[2:43:51] be rolled out.
[2:43:53] Thank you.
[2:43:54] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:43:55] Supervisor vega and then the
[2:43:56] lease before thinking that
[2:43:57] entire.
[2:44:01] My question is about the work
[2:44:01] distribution.
[2:44:02] I know that this had been the
[2:44:05] fight manassas a manassas park.
[2:44:07] Ticket get off the burden would
[2:44:08] fall in prince william county,
[2:44:12] correct in terms of stop and
[2:44:13] the work that they have to do?
[2:44:20] >> not necessarily.
[2:44:21] That objectives moving ahead
[2:44:22] would determine how who we have
[2:44:23] is a chair and we would like to
[2:44:24] seek representation from the
[2:44:31] greater area.
[2:44:32] I don't necessarily think that
[2:44:32] has to be true.
[2:44:33] I think we can have number step
[2:44:34] up and participate equally.
[2:44:35] >> Yesli Vega: that is good.
[2:44:42] The reason why I ask is I'm
[2:44:43] trying to identify if this
[2:44:44] would add an additional
[2:44:44] financial burden and or
[2:44:45] additional responsibilities to
[2:44:46] our county staff and whether it
[2:44:49] is the clerk of the court or
[2:44:50] sheriff's office, they service
[2:44:51] the cities and pay their fair
[2:44:51] share.
[2:44:52] I was thinking along those
[2:44:58] lines but this would require
[2:44:59] the same type of mou, if that
[2:45:01] is what we want to call it.
[2:45:02] I'm happy to hear there would
[2:45:03] be some type of collaboration
[2:45:04] and I look forward to seeing
[2:45:04] how that develops.
[2:45:04] Thank you.
[2:45:06] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:45:06] bailey?
[2:45:07] B6 you MAY have answered this
[2:45:07] at a different time.
[2:45:13] There are organizations and
[2:45:14] subject matter experts.
[2:45:15] One of the things the community
[2:45:15] program that dan created was
[2:45:17] good at is bringing
[2:45:18] organizations within the
[2:45:20] community that have been
[2:45:27] strategically working on this
[2:45:27] on
[2:45:27] brady.
[2:45:28] What does that look like in
[2:45:29] terms of how you're going to
[2:45:32] move forward.
[2:45:33] >> that is also a great
[2:45:33] question.
[2:45:33] We are developing the
[2:45:34] structure.
[2:45:35] We are working to pull in a
[2:45:39] variety of different partners
[2:45:40] .
[2:45:40] I don't know if you wanted to
[2:45:45] jump in on any aspect of that.
[2:45:46] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I
[2:45:47] know it won't happen overnight
[2:45:48] but I want to know is that in
[2:45:48] the plan?
[2:45:59] >> you look at the current team
[2:46:00] members involved on this.
[2:46:01] I'm going to go off your list
[2:46:02] for criminal justice services,
[2:46:03] ax, community services, health
[2:46:04] districts, social services,
[2:46:05] homeless services, the police
[2:46:05] departments we mentioned
[2:46:06] before.
[2:46:06] 08 argument adult detention
[2:46:07] center.
[2:46:08] It's very inclusive in terms of
[2:46:09] process and how we would
[2:46:19] involve in this work but we can
[2:46:20] expand beyond that to other
[2:46:20] governmental and
[2:46:21] nongovernmental entities for us
[2:46:22] to work on this issue and all
[2:46:22] the other issues.
[2:46:23] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I
[2:46:24] was just thinking the non-for
[2:46:30] profits.
[2:46:30] When you mentioned human
[2:46:31] trafficking, that's a tender
[2:46:32] spot.
[2:46:32] But there are not for profits
[2:46:34] within our community that would
[2:46:34] be elated that we are starting
[2:46:35] on this.
[2:46:36] That is what I was alluding to.
[2:46:40] Thank you.
[2:46:41] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:46:41] boddye.
[2:46:42] >> Kenny Boddye: last couple
[2:46:43] questions and I appreciate my
[2:46:44] colleagues stirring
[2:46:44] more
[2:46:49] thoughts and questions.
[2:46:49] The school system.
[2:46:50] Where does the school system
[2:46:51] sit in the partnership to the
[2:47:01] point my colleague made on the
[2:47:01] team.
[2:47:02] >> we are still collecting
[2:47:03] signatures being knowable to
[2:47:04] formally recognize the team
[2:47:05] would be a great way to attract
[2:47:05] new members.
[2:47:06] Work closely with the schools
[2:47:07] in a human trafficking task
[2:47:10] force we operate so hopefully
[2:47:10] sometime soon.
[2:47:16] >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate
[2:47:16] that.
[2:47:17] Last question we have, it goes
[2:47:18] back to something supervisor
[2:47:19] franklin asked is when you are
[2:47:22] talking about some of the
[2:47:23] current situation ask as he
[2:47:26] brought up
[2:47:26] .
[2:47:28] I assume the answer is yes but
[2:47:29] also identifying the gaps that
[2:47:31] we have frankly in being able
[2:47:39] to address these needs, detect
[2:47:40] them in the on the left and
[2:47:40] right of way.
[2:47:41] Is that part of it?
[2:47:47] >> that is absolutely correct.
[2:47:48] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[2:47:48] very much.
[2:47:54] I don't see any further
[2:47:54] questions.
[2:47:55] >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:48:00] Chair and members of the board.
[2:48:01] >> Chair Jefferson: I was
[2:48:02] getting ready to go through my
[2:48:02] agenda.
[2:48:07] This is a resolution
[2:48:07] .
[2:48:08] I would like to get a motion
[2:48:09] directness and support the
[2:48:10] creation of the greater prince
[2:48:13] william domestic violence
[2:48:13] fatality review team.
[2:48:14] >> so moved.
[2:48:15] >> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:48:15] second.
[2:48:16] >> Chair Jefferson: any further
[2:48:17] discussion on this?
[2:48:19] I want to
[2:48:25] say quickly if that we need
[2:48:25] this.
[2:48:26] I've spoken to a number of
[2:48:26] police officers who say
[2:48:30] domestic violence calls are the
[2:48:34] most dangerous in reading
[2:48:35] through the staff report and
[2:48:36] reading through this, domestic
[2:48:41] violence is the highest cause
[2:48:46] of death among pregnant women.
[2:48:47] That is sobering and actually
[2:48:47] quite scary.
[2:48:48] Often times people are in
[2:48:49] relationships and there is a
[2:48:52] loft of trust built and that is
[2:48:54] how people fall prey to things
[2:48:54] .
[2:48:55] It's something I'd be remiss if
[2:49:03] I didn't say, it doesn't just
[2:49:04] impact women but also men are
[2:49:05] victims and that is something
[2:49:06] we cannot lose sight of.
[2:49:13] There are men who are victims
[2:49:14] of domestic violence often
[2:49:15] times because of social stigma
[2:49:15] they are afraid to speak up.
[2:49:16] Thank you for the work you do
[2:49:17] around this issue.
[2:49:17] Supervisor angry?
[2:49:18] > Kenny Boddye: I want to
[2:49:18] thank you.
[2:49:36] I know this is a touchy subject
[2:49:36] .
[2:49:37] There is a lot of work
[2:49:37] involved.
[2:49:38] There's a lot of unknowns now.
[2:49:39] Ask these questions, build your
[2:49:39] team.
[2:49:40] I can't wait for you to get
[2:49:41] back and let us know once you
[2:49:42] have the package in place and
[2:49:42] how well it's doing.
[2:49:43] i know it's going to take time
[2:49:44] and it's going to be well worth
[2:49:44] it so thank you for the work
[2:49:48] you have done thus far.
[2:49:56] >> vote unanimous.
[2:49:57] >> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:49:57] Chair.
[2:49:58] Into the team, thank you very
[2:50:00] much.
[2:50:01] This was rachael's first time
[2:50:02] in front of the board so
[2:50:06] rachel, great job.
[2:50:07] So with item 10 feet we are
[2:50:11] asking for a transfer of 85,000
[2:50:27] of contingency funds.
[2:50:28] The planning office is bringing
[2:50:29] this forward consulting
[2:50:29] services and I will turn into
[2:50:31] tonya to answer any questions.
[2:50:32] Co-director washington to
[2:50:32] answer questions.
[2:50:33] >> good afternoon.
[2:50:33] Onya
[2:50:35] washington director of the
[2:50:35] planning office joined today by
[2:50:36] eric griffiths who is with our
[2:50:37] cultural resources team and our
[2:50:44] countywide planning division.
[2:50:44] We are here to request the
[2:50:45] board transfer $85,000 for an
[2:50:46] contingency to the planning
[2:50:50] office for consultant services
[2:50:50] to support the
[2:50:51] reduction on the
[2:50:52] thurau fair historic overlay
[2:50:54] district design guidelines.
[2:50:55] As I am sure you are aware we
[2:50:56] have an initiative underway to
[2:50:57] create a new historic district
[2:50:58] for the thorough fare
[2:51:01] community.
[2:51:02] We have a lot of work that has
[2:51:03] already been taken place
[2:51:04] already
[2:51:04] .
[2:51:18] We conducted three community
[2:51:19] meetings between JUNE 20 24 and
[2:51:20] SEPTEMBER this year.
[2:51:21] We have already done a lot of
[2:51:22] work on the first phase which
[2:51:22] is producing the historic
[2:51:29] register, the national historic
[2:51:30] places and virginia landmarks
[2:51:30] register nomination.
[2:51:31] That process is still going
[2:51:32] through the state review
[2:51:33] process
[2:51:35] .
[2:51:36] One big change that took place
[2:51:37] after one of our community
[2:51:38] meetings was that community
[2:51:38] members asked for consideration
[2:51:48] to expand the boundaries of the
[2:51:48] area that is being recommended
[2:51:50] or nominated for the national
[2:51:50] register in virginia landmarks
[2:51:52] process and that triggered
[2:51:52] additional review on the
[2:52:04] stateside.
[2:52:05] That is taking longer than what
[2:52:06] we anticipated.
[2:52:07] And so we decided in SEPTEMBER
[2:52:07] to start the work on a second
[2:52:08] phase to develop the zoning
[2:52:09] text amendment that would
[2:52:10] create the historic overlay
[2:52:11] district.
[2:52:12] As part of that, to a company
[2:52:21] that is eta we also need design
[2:52:22] guidelines that is actually the
[2:52:23] mechanisms that would help to
[2:52:24] regulate matters such as
[2:52:24] architectural changes,
[2:52:25] archaeological resources and
[2:52:26] other historic resources within
[2:52:27] the overlay district once that
[2:52:30] is established as soon as the
[2:52:32] board establishes it.
[2:52:36] Because we are getting started
[2:52:37] earlier we do need resources
[2:52:48] during this fiscal year for the
[2:52:49] design guidelines in order to
[2:52:50] procure consultant, specialized
[2:52:51] consultant resources and
[2:52:52] support to produce that.
[2:53:04] The goal is when we complete
[2:53:05] the draft on the zoning text
[2:53:05] amendment we would bring the
[2:53:06] design guidelines at the same
[2:53:07] time so the board can approve
[2:53:08] both at the same time.
[2:53:09] So happy to answer any
[2:53:10] questions if you have any.
[2:53:10] Thank you.
[2:53:11] >> Chair Jefferson: first time
[2:53:12] supervisor franklin, vega, then
[2:53:12] boddye.
[2:53:13] >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[2:53:14] know we put some money toward
[2:53:15] creating the interactive park I
[2:53:15] guess so to speak.
[2:53:20] Is that separate from what we
[2:53:20] are looking to do now?
[2:53:21] >> yes.
[2:53:26] I'm not entirely sure are not
[2:53:27] familiar with what you
[2:53:27] referring to.
[2:53:28] And you provide more details?
[2:53:28] Okay.
[2:53:30] Yes.
[2:53:38] It is a separate project.
[2:53:39] >> are encrypted, evidence
[2:53:39] resource
[2:53:39] specialist with the
[2:53:40] planning office.
[2:53:46] So the original thoroughfare
[2:53:47] initiative included both the
[2:53:50] interpretive park and historic
[2:53:57] overlay district, but they were
[2:53:58] parceled off into separate
[2:53:58] agencies.
[2:53:59] The planning office is handling
[2:54:00] the historic overlay district
[2:54:00] and parks and recreation
[2:54:02] historic is doing the
[2:54:07] historical park aspect part of
[2:54:12] that project.
[2:54:13] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:54:14] Supervisor vega?
[2:54:24] >> Yesli Vega: for
[2:54:25] clarification purposes I thank
[2:54:26] you might have answered my
[2:54:26] question.
[2:54:28] We need to spend this amount on
[2:54:29] consultants for design
[2:54:29] guidelines?
[2:54:29] >> yes.
[2:54:32] >> Yesli Vega: do we anticipate
[2:54:33] the $85,000 will be enough?
[2:54:34] >> that is what we are
[2:54:35] requesting is the budget so if
[2:54:37] we get those funds that is what
[2:54:38] we will use.
[2:54:38] >> Yesli Vega: thank you.
[2:54:39] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:54:39] boddye.
[2:54:40] >> Kenny Boddye: laissez
[2:54:49] question, or a common.
[2:54:50] MS. Washington, I appreciate
[2:54:51] your thought process having
[2:54:51] things run concurrent frankly
[2:54:52] because sometimes we are
[2:54:53] waiting for things to be
[2:54:54] subsequently we end up spending
[2:54:56] more time frankly.
[2:54:57] This journey for a thorough
[2:54:57] fare has become a long time.
[2:54:58] I
[2:55:00] appreciate the fact you are
[2:55:00] thinking about the design
[2:55:02] guidelines
[2:55:03] .
[2:55:04] Having this come to us
[2:55:04] concurrently.
[2:55:10] At the state
[2:55:11] level it works itself out for
[2:55:12] the historical part of it in
[2:55:17] the register you there, you are
[2:55:18] starting to work through the
[2:55:19] process of having our land use
[2:55:26] policies conformed to that.
[2:55:27] That leads me to my question.
[2:55:28] One of the things I have seen,
[2:55:29] sometimes and I imagine it
[2:55:29] won't be the case here.
[2:55:31] Overlays that we adopt
[2:55:32] sometimes contradict underlying
[2:55:33] zoning of what is already
[2:55:45] there.
[2:55:45] The context of the conference
[2:55:48] and zoning ordinance, a lot of
[2:55:48] moving pieces are going on at
[2:55:49] the same time.
[2:55:50] Can you speak of how this will
[2:55:51] fit into that and knowing the
[2:55:53] encumbrance of
[2:56:05] with the historic overlay
[2:56:07] district will not change the
[2:56:08] underlying zoning for the areas
[2:56:10] that will be considered and
[2:56:11] included in the boundaries for
[2:56:13] the parties historical district
[2:56:15] will not run into that issues
[2:56:17] that it is something we shared
[2:56:18] with the community the other
[2:56:20] piece I wanted to note with
[2:56:22] regard to the national register
[2:56:23] and estate process that
[2:56:25] boundary and the boundary that
[2:56:27] will be used for the county's
[2:56:28] historical district they MAY
[2:56:30] not necessarily be the same
[2:56:32] they do not have to be the
[2:56:32] same.
[2:56:34] Additionally with regards to
[2:56:34] the
[2:56:35] national register process
[2:56:39] which again, that ultimately
[2:56:40] the state has to sign off on
[2:56:42] that then it goes to the
[2:56:44] national park service. For
[2:56:46] that ultimate approval, the
[2:56:47] state uses a specific criteria
[2:56:52] in terms of what types of
[2:56:54] properties are eligible to be
[2:56:55] considered for those
[2:56:59] nominations. Eric it's an
[2:57:01] expert on that but that is
[2:57:02] something we've also discussed
[2:57:04] with the community that the
[2:57:06] national register boundary MAY
[2:57:08] be different than what the
[2:57:09] counties boundary it could be
[2:57:11] the same for the county's
[2:57:13] boundary does not necessarily
[2:57:15] have to follow the national
[2:57:16] register entries. I just wanted
[2:57:18] to provide that clarification
[2:57:20] but to get to your first
[2:57:22] question, the overlay district
[2:57:23] essentially will sit on top of
[2:57:25] the existing zoning for that
[2:57:25] community.
[2:57:27] >> Kenny Boddye: to follow up I
[2:57:28] would imagine the overlay will
[2:57:30] follow the counties boundary if
[2:57:32] they are different they will
[2:57:34] not follow the state right.
[2:57:40] >> we could if we wanted to
[2:57:41] with the community support
[2:57:43] follow the national register
[2:57:44] boundary but again because
[2:57:46] these very specific criteria
[2:57:47] their heavy other areas that
[2:57:49] for the counties boundaries for
[2:57:52] the actual historic overlay
[2:57:53] district it MAY be different it
[2:57:55] MAY be expanded what have you
[2:57:57] sell during the last community
[2:57:59] meeting in SEPTEMBER there was
[2:58:00] something that we raised.
[2:58:02] We said are there areas that we
[2:58:10] should consider that maybe
[2:58:12] outside of the boundaries that
[2:58:14] have been identified for the
[2:58:15] national register combination
[2:58:17] that is still undergoing
[2:58:19] review. That is something we
[2:58:20] will be working out with the
[2:58:20] community.
[2:58:22] >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[2:58:24] that my final point is thank
[2:58:26] you ultimately in order was
[2:58:28] community interest from this I
[2:58:30] appreciate how you been feeling
[2:58:31] using it because ultimately we
[2:58:33] don't have we MAY not adopt the
[2:58:40] same exact boundaries as the
[2:58:42] state and national but knowing
[2:58:44] that we MAY be more inclusive
[2:58:46] frankly than they are and be
[2:58:48] very clear with the committee
[2:58:49] on that process that we don't
[2:58:51] naturally have to handshake we
[2:58:53] MAY end up having to recognize
[2:58:55] and put the overlay over a
[2:58:56] larger area versus a smaller.
[2:58:58] >> Tanya Washington: that's
[2:58:59] correct.
[2:59:01] >> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:59:02] stewart.
[2:59:02] >> George Stewart:
[2:59:04] hello MS. Washington good
[2:59:06] afternoon just a simple
[2:59:06] question.
[2:59:08] The necessity to spend $85,000
[2:59:10] on a consultant for the long
[2:59:11] range planning commission is
[2:59:13] there not a skill set in house
[2:59:14] to do this yourself to develop
[2:59:16] the design guidelines.
[2:59:18] >> Tanya Washington: it's a
[2:59:19] combination of specialized
[2:59:21] skills and staff capacity.
[2:59:23] This product is being managed
[2:59:24] by within our countywide
[2:59:25] planning division and
[2:59:27] specifically within our
[2:59:28] cultural resources team gave a
[2:59:37] very packed work plan.
[2:59:38] Additionally with regards to
[2:59:40] design guidelines it goes into
[2:59:42] much greater level of
[2:59:43] specificity such as
[2:59:45] architectural design and other
[2:59:46] matters, that is really more of
[2:59:48] a specialized skill set.
[2:59:49] In order for us to produce
[2:59:51] these design guidelines in a
[2:59:53] timely fashion, along with the
[2:59:55] zta it would take us longer if
[2:59:56] our own staff had to we do have
[2:59:58] some architectural design
[3:00:00] backgrounds within the team,
[3:00:02] but they have a lot of other
[3:00:03] projects they are managing such
[3:00:05] as the conference of zoning
[3:00:07] ordinance update the
[3:00:08] sustainability resilient zta
[3:00:10] the historic overlay district
[3:00:12] on the conference of plan
[3:00:14] amendment's it would be a major
[3:00:15] limitation on our ability to
[3:00:17] continue to advance those
[3:00:18] projects if we had to pull to
[3:00:20] staff that MAY have that skill
[3:00:22] set to work on this as it's
[3:00:23] much more efficient for us to
[3:00:25] hire a consultant to do this
[3:00:27] type of work regularly and get
[3:00:28] this done in a timely fashion
[3:00:30] so we can focus on creating
[3:00:32] zoning text amendment which the
[3:00:33] same team has to produce.
[3:00:38] >> George Stewart: thank you.
[3:00:40] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:00:42] so very much we don't have any
[3:00:43] more questions really
[3:00:44] appreciate this MS. Washington
[3:00:45] thank you.
[3:00:47] last speaker supervisor stewart
[3:00:49] went to see if you want to move
[3:00:52] this forward.
[3:00:52] >> George Stewart:
[3:00:53] so moved.
[3:00:56] >> second
[3:00:56] .
[3:00:58] >> Chair Jefferson: that was
[3:00:58] simultaneous.
[3:01:01] I thought it was supervisor
[3:01:04] franklin fred I said franklin
[3:01:05] franklin fred.
[3:01:07] [Laughter] Any further
[3:01:08] discussion.
[3:01:12] On this agenda item.
[3:01:13] Let's go ahead and take our
[3:01:23] vote.
[3:01:26] Vote unanimous.
[3:01:34] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[3:01:36] >> thank you very much MADAM
[3:01:37] Chair and to director
[3:01:39] washington and eric thank you
[3:01:40] for the presentation MADAM
[3:01:42] Chair members of the board with
[3:01:43] 1030 manassas park is asked
[3:01:45] that the county review
[3:01:47] remaining requirements
[3:01:49] associated with 1989 voluntary
[3:01:51] settlement agreement that is we
[3:01:53] are asking for the board's
[3:01:54] consideration
[3:01:55] .
[3:01:55] >> Chair Jefferson: all
[3:01:56] right
[3:01:58] thank you anybody have any
[3:01:58] questions?
[3:02:02] Any additional information?
[3:02:06] Is that you supervisor vega
[3:02:06] .
[3:02:08] >> Yesli Vega: I will just move
[3:02:09] it forward it's in the coles
[3:02:11] district.
[3:02:12] >> Kenny Boddye: second.
[3:02:14] >> Chair Jefferson: any further
[3:02:15] discussion?
[3:02:16] Et me call for
[3:02:20] the vote.
[3:02:24] >> vote unanimous.
[3:02:25] >> Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:02:28] thank you. No we have a
[3:02:31] supervisors time normally I
[3:02:39] break out calendar changes I
[3:02:41] don't know if anybody has any
[3:02:42] questions on 11 e or 11 f if
[3:02:44] not I will go ahead and just do
[3:02:46] everything in one motion.
[3:02:48] Hold on I guess supervisor
[3:02:48] franklin.
[3:02:50] >> Margaret Angela Franklin: we
[3:02:52] can talk about item 11 f we are
[3:03:01] canceling the meeting
[3:03:02] .
[3:03:04] >> Chair Jefferson: and adding
[3:03:06] a one on. The applicant
[3:03:07] scheduled for tuesday, DECEMBER
[3:03:09] 2 has pulled their obligation
[3:03:11] there is nothing else lined up
[3:03:12] for that day.
[3:03:14] >> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[3:03:15] just want to make sure for the
[3:03:17] planning department I guess I
[3:03:18] would imagine we have cases
[3:03:20] ready to go I just want to make
[3:03:21] sure if there are other cases
[3:03:24] we can get them out of the way.
[3:03:26] >> Tanya Washington: we already
[3:03:28] have cases scheduled through
[3:03:29] the end of this year including
[3:03:31] the DECEMBER 16 meeting it is
[3:03:33] really over timing of there's a
[3:03:34] lot of things that have to get
[3:03:36] lined up we have to get them by
[3:03:37] a certain timeframe in order to
[3:03:39] then produce the staff report
[3:03:40] and get it in the queue for
[3:03:42] specific board dates.
[3:03:44] This is really more of a matter
[3:03:47] of his health the church is
[3:03:49] described we do so have other
[3:03:50] cases for DECEMBER 16 we have
[3:03:53] several cases coming.
[3:03:55] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[3:03:56] thank you for that MS.
[3:03:58] Washington because I talked to
[3:04:00] her about this I just want to
[3:04:01] make sure we are moving cases
[3:04:03] along we've had several
[3:04:04] meetings or a couple of
[3:04:06] canceled for 7 pm I just want
[3:04:07] to make sure we're getting
[3:04:09] through the land use cases.
[3:04:11] >> Tanya Washington: we are
[3:04:16] very much getting through the
[3:04:18] land use cases just today the
[3:04:20] board approved for cases during
[3:04:22] a consolidated agenda the
[3:04:25] majority of the cases the board
[3:04:26] takes action on is the
[3:04:26] consolidated agenda it's only
[3:04:29] in the afternoon is a small
[3:04:31] number of cases that are the
[3:04:31] evening cases we definitely
[3:04:33] have cases already looking into
[3:04:35] dates for next year we will
[3:04:37] definitely make progress to
[3:04:43] continue to keep cases just one
[3:04:45] less thing you should looking
[3:04:47] at the planning commission's
[3:04:48] agenda which is even more
[3:04:50] filled. Always roll over to the
[3:04:51] board we are definitely getting
[3:04:52] through our cases.
[3:04:54] >> Chair Jefferson: I just want
[3:04:56] to piggyback on that I swear I
[3:04:58] am not asking supervisor
[3:04:59] franklin to see the thing about
[3:05:01] these questions myself I want
[3:05:04] to know it does original and 7b
[3:05:05] we were doing and off cycle
[3:05:07] budget request we want to make
[3:05:09] sure that planning team has the
[3:05:10] resources that they need to
[3:05:11] continue to move these cases.
[3:05:13] Again the consolidated land-use
[3:05:15] agenda we do get through quite
[3:05:17] a few things the cases in the
[3:05:18] evening they can be more
[3:05:19] contentious I know in DECEMBER
[3:05:21] we will have at least one
[3:05:23] late-night because of a case.
[3:05:25] I really do appreciate planning
[3:05:29] and it gets awfully will have
[3:05:31] more stuff we would have to
[3:05:32] cancel some in evening sessions
[3:05:34] moving forward.
[3:05:35] Anyone else want to speak?
[3:05:42] Albright I heard that.
[3:05:45] Didn't need a microphone thank
[3:05:46] you so very much. I would like
[3:05:47] to go ahead and ask for a
[3:05:49] motion for 11 a-11 f.
[3:05:50] >> so moved.
[3:05:54] >> second
[3:05:54] .
[3:05:56] >> Chair Jefferson: any
[3:05:58] additional comments let's go
[3:06:04] ahead and take the vote.
[3:06:10] >> vote unanimous.
[3:06:11] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:06:13] very much now we will go around
[3:06:15] the deus I will actually start
[3:06:17] with our newest supervisor
[3:06:19] supervisor stewart anything you
[3:06:20] would like to do for
[3:06:22] supervisors time.
[3:06:22] >> George Stewart: yes.
[3:06:23] I have a card trick.
[3:06:24] [Laughter].
[3:06:25] His past
[3:06:28] saturday, OCTOBER 25, the
[3:06:35] gainesville district had held a
[3:06:37] bulk dumpster day there was no
[3:06:39] siding by the trashing code.
[3:06:40] In our office parking lot.
[3:06:43] The following results from the
[3:06:45] gainesville district dumpster
[3:06:48] day we collected 5080 pounds or
[3:06:53] 2.55 tons of trash and 2160
[3:07:05] pounds or 1.608 tons of metal a
[3:07:07] total of 3.63 tons of discarded
[3:07:09] household items and metal were
[3:07:10] collected from the community.
[3:07:12] Also I want to announce we will
[3:07:14] be playing a lot of mariah
[3:07:15] carey's christmas album there
[3:07:17] is a holiday party at the
[3:07:19] gainesville district office.
[3:07:21] We will have an open house on
[3:07:22] friday we will have an open
[3:07:24] house on friday, DECEMBER 12.
[3:07:28] From 5 pm-8 pm be there or be
[3:07:34] square.
[3:07:35] >> Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:07:37] that was short and simple.
[3:07:40] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[3:07:41] thank you MADAM Chair good
[3:07:43] evening everyone. OCTOBER 29 I
[3:07:44] was my staff and I participated
[3:07:49] in the 2025 salute the armed
[3:07:51] forces with oliver north who
[3:07:58] was the wonderful guest speaker
[3:07:59] we are grateful for his service
[3:08:01] he is a decorated marine and
[3:08:02] thank you to the chamber for
[3:08:11] the event. If then on NOVEMBER
[3:08:13] 7 had the opportunity of
[3:08:14] cutting the cake with the
[3:08:16] marine corps again thank you
[3:08:17] col. Colegate for inviting me
[3:08:19] and to be able to be in the
[3:08:20] presence of the oldest marine
[3:08:21] sgt.
[3:08:22] Jim wescott who is 104 years
[3:08:24] young yes and the youngest
[3:08:25] marine private joseph tele age
[3:08:27] 19 it was an exciting day wendy
[3:08:29] but the cake was good. NOVEMBER
[3:08:31] 11-NOVEMBER 8-11th I persuaded
[3:08:35] in the annual virginia
[3:08:36] association of counties
[3:08:38] conference with my colleagues
[3:08:39] in bath county we had a great
[3:08:43] time I want to say
[3:08:44] congratulations to our new
[3:08:47] chair supervisor victor angry
[3:08:48] happy man thank you so much for
[3:08:52] serving in that capacity.
[3:08:53] On the eighth I attended my
[3:08:54] staff attended the annual
[3:09:01] anniversary gala for.
[3:09:03] [Listing names] Or to thank
[3:09:05] them for the information I was
[3:09:06] not able to attend myself
[3:09:07] because I was at.
[3:09:09] [Listing names] My chief of
[3:09:10] staff presented a proclamation
[3:09:13] to them for their dedication
[3:09:15] innovation and community impact
[3:09:16] prince william county and
[3:09:18] manassas county to serve the
[3:09:20] development disabled they are
[3:09:21] great at it on the 12th I was
[3:09:23] able to participate in a
[3:09:24] ceremony with one of our
[3:09:30] citizens dora mohammed who
[3:09:32] allowed me to principate in a
[3:09:33] doctoral study department
[3:09:35] outreach strategy program that
[3:09:38] talked about sustainability and
[3:09:39] interfaith engagement in local
[3:09:40] government it was very
[3:09:42] exciting. MADAM Chair thank you
[3:09:44] for being there with us and
[3:09:46] congratulations to DR. Dora
[3:09:47] mohammed my body my friend.
[3:09:49] NOVEMBER 13, I was so proud the
[3:09:51] economic develop at department
[3:09:53] had their annual make your mark
[3:09:55] award ceremony and is a
[3:10:01] celebration to christina when
[3:10:02] and her staff you actually rock
[3:10:04] it was an exceptional program I
[3:10:06] was really grateful that you
[3:10:08] asked me to be one of the guest
[3:10:10] speakers there at the program
[3:10:12] on NOVEMBER 14 my staff
[3:10:13] attended the abc risk academy
[3:10:15] 42 graduation congratulations
[3:10:22] to the strong students that
[3:10:24] were able to finish the program
[3:10:25] and to feel good about
[3:10:27] themselves and the things that
[3:10:29] they do 25 graduates from
[3:10:30] prince william county academy.
[3:10:34] We are very proud of that.
[3:10:39] Yesterday NOVEMBER 17, we had
[3:10:41] our potomac district town hall
[3:10:42] would like to send my sincere
[3:10:44] thanks to and appreciation to
[3:10:46] the economic development
[3:10:47] committee team the planning
[3:10:49] team transportation team and
[3:10:52] prince william county water.
[3:10:54] They were exceptional rib 70
[3:10:59] guests there they all said that
[3:11:00] they garnered a lot of
[3:11:02] information from them so thank
[3:11:03] you so much for coming to the
[3:11:05] district and making sure that
[3:11:07] people are aware and educated
[3:11:08] of what's going on in the
[3:11:11] district. Upcoming events
[3:11:12] NOVEMBER 20, we look forward to
[3:11:14] having the opportunity to
[3:11:16] present the military veterans
[3:11:18] and public safety council and
[3:11:20] women's leadership conference.
[3:11:21] I will be participating in
[3:11:24] that.
[3:11:26] On the 22nd, 3's polar express
[3:11:28] holiday parade in dumfries
[3:11:31] bring your santa claus hat and
[3:11:32] come and principate because it
[3:11:34] will start at 9 am on the 22nd
[3:11:37] it's a saturday in dumfries.
[3:11:40] I just want to thank region
[3:11:50] eight for reelecting me to the
[3:11:52] virginia association of
[3:11:53] counties board again. I wanted
[3:11:55] to continue in serving for
[3:11:57] prince william county and as
[3:11:58] the chair of health and human
[3:12:00] resources that's all have until
[3:12:01] then happy thanks giving.
[3:12:03] I have 45 seconds.
[3:12:04] I'm also delighted to serve as
[3:12:06] the vice chair northern
[3:12:09] virginia and the rc preterm
[3:12:11] 25/26 that is excelling as well
[3:12:13] that's all have really MADAM
[3:12:14] Chair thank you so much.
[3:12:15] >
[3:12:16] Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:12:19] thank you so much supervisor
[3:12:20] boddye.
[3:12:22] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you
[3:12:23] MADAM Chair I will go in
[3:12:25] reverse order of events first
[3:12:27] want to thank everyone who came
[3:12:28] out last night to occoquan
[3:12:29] elementary for old bridge road
[3:12:32] 123 old bridge rd.
[3:12:33] Public information meeting
[3:12:35] really big kudos to the
[3:12:37] transportation staff powell and
[3:12:39] his team that cannot do support
[3:12:41] we got a lot of good feedback
[3:12:45] on some two very important
[3:12:47] intersections on the old bridge
[3:12:49] road corridor really glad that
[3:12:50] so many folks cannot and have
[3:12:52] some really good feedback and
[3:12:54] conversation for us as we
[3:12:55] continue to look at ways to
[3:12:57] alleviate traffic and increase
[3:12:58] safety in pedestrian
[3:13:00] connectivity and them one of
[3:13:03] the most important corridors in
[3:13:04] the occoquan district. Also got
[3:13:06] a chance to sit in on the joint
[3:13:07] cog metro board meeting
[3:13:10] yesterday both boards did
[3:13:12] indeed adopt the dmv moves
[3:13:14] initiative which does not touch
[3:13:16] us as much as it touches the
[3:13:18] inner core but it does set up a
[3:13:19] scheme to hopefully stabilize
[3:13:21] metro and also continue talking
[3:13:23] about regional transit
[3:13:24] hopefully there will be some
[3:13:26] fruits of that effort that will
[3:13:28] hopefully touch bre and be able
[3:13:29] to establish some more stable
[3:13:33] libel and frequent transit all
[3:13:35] the way down here in prince
[3:13:37] william county doses those in
[3:13:39] other jurisdictions. Also had
[3:13:49] the opportunity to pass friday
[3:13:51] to be part of the swearing-in
[3:13:53] ceremony for our new colleague
[3:13:54] supervisor stuart it was really
[3:13:57] great to meet his family I
[3:13:57] should've brought my
[3:13:58] four-year-old I didn't realize
[3:14:01] you were going to bring your
[3:14:03] four-year-olds. We have to
[3:14:04] rectify that at some point I
[3:14:06] was really happy to see that
[3:14:07] historic moment for you I
[3:14:09] wanted to celebrate you in that
[3:14:11] regard. Also friday in the
[3:14:13] morning I had a chance to go to
[3:14:15] alongside my colleagues to the
[3:14:17] ferc housing work session which
[3:14:19] it was really productive it is
[3:14:23] part of a new initiative to set
[3:14:23] aside and create a strategic
[3:14:25] plan for the northern virginia
[3:14:27] regional commission on an issue
[3:14:29] that I know is near and dear to
[3:14:31] a lot of our hearts housing now
[3:14:32] in the rc can step up and help
[3:14:34] play more regional role in
[3:14:35] helping all of the northern
[3:14:37] virginia jurisdictions tackle
[3:14:39] and find good policy and
[3:14:40] messaging around housing that
[3:14:43] was really great opportunity as
[3:14:43] well.
[3:14:45] Finally in terms of events i
[3:14:46] think that is almost dead.
[3:14:48] The last thing I will say on
[3:14:50] events as supervisor bailey
[3:14:52] said this our last meeting
[3:14:53] before the thanksgiving holiday
[3:14:55] I want to wish everybody a
[3:14:56] great thanksgiving last thing I
[3:14:59] will say on DECEMBER 2 when we
[3:15:00] come back we will be looking at
[3:15:09] the affordable dwelling unit
[3:15:11] before the housing trust fund
[3:15:13] staff put a lot of work into
[3:15:14] that I know the met with
[3:15:16] offices over the past month or
[3:15:18] so because we did adopt
[3:15:19] students back during the summer
[3:15:21] I know we are near the finish
[3:15:25] line on that.
[3:15:27] I will be sending an email to
[3:15:29] my colleagues shortly people
[3:15:30] talk about some findings my
[3:15:32] staff and I found recently in
[3:15:33] regards to that and some
[3:15:35] conversations we've had with
[3:15:36] liza johnson and jones docket
[3:15:38] about brief conversations with
[3:15:40] ken executive as well so we are
[3:15:42] almost there there are couple
[3:15:43] of tweaks I would like to
[3:15:45] consider before we adapt before
[3:15:47] the housing trust fund policy
[3:15:48] guidelines one of which is
[3:15:50] loudoun county back in JUNE
[3:15:51] adopted I should say revised
[3:15:53] and reformed the policy to
[3:15:55] develop more streamlined and
[3:15:56] more friendly to getting awards
[3:15:58] out faster frankly lot easier
[3:16:00] to understand from applicants
[3:16:03] and also this idea that some
[3:16:04] other localities in the
[3:16:06] commonwealth allow for the
[3:16:08] process of actually reporting
[3:16:10] company being administrative
[3:16:11] process versus going through
[3:16:13] the board again not proposing
[3:16:15] anything for tonight but want
[3:16:17] to give my colleagues heads up
[3:16:19] about that will send a pretty
[3:16:20] verbose everybody is used about
[3:16:22] email for me here shortly I
[3:16:23] want to put that on everyone's
[3:16:23] radar
[3:16:25] before I sent it out thank
[3:16:26] you MADAM Chair.
[3:16:28] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:16:29] so very much I will save the
[3:16:31] best for last I will go over to
[3:16:32] supervisor gordy.
[3:16:34] >> Tom Gordy: that was
[3:16:35] insulting.
[3:16:36] [Laughter] Scored
[3:16:37] the rest of
[3:16:38] you are second best to last
[3:16:38] spring.
[3:16:43] >> Tom Gordy: [Laughter]
[3:16:44] Chopped liver.
[3:16:51] There we go.
[3:16:52] Quite a few things going on I
[3:16:54] attended the prince william
[3:16:56] chambers salute the armed
[3:16:57] forces really appreciated col.
[3:16:58] North's comments did a
[3:17:00] fantastic job talking about our
[3:17:02] veterans and service members
[3:17:03] and their families and their
[3:17:05] service and sacrifice on behalf
[3:17:07] of our nation.
[3:17:09] It was really great event and
[3:17:10] congratulations to the chamber
[3:17:11] for that event.
[3:17:12] On the
[3:17:13] fifth on 5 NOVEMBER.
[3:17:22] [Unclear audio] The knoxville
[3:17:24] horn baker lines this can be
[3:17:25] something that we will be
[3:17:27] talking more about in a couple
[3:17:31] of weeks as we look at these
[3:17:33] lines do cross lot of county
[3:17:34] property we need to have a
[3:17:35] conversation about that.
[3:17:37] On NOVEMBER 8 I attended the
[3:17:40] american legion post 14 veteran
[3:17:42] appreciation luncheon it was a
[3:17:43] great day to learn about
[3:17:46] program they are raising funds
[3:17:53] for to build veterans homes to
[3:17:55] meet the veteran homeless
[3:17:56] issues on their property in
[3:18:05] manassas.
[3:18:06] great effort they have got
[3:18:08] there. Really appreciate the
[3:18:10] invite to participate in that
[3:18:12] luncheon. On 9 NOVEMBER, my
[3:18:14] church, oakdale baptist church
[3:18:16] celebrated its hundred 65th
[3:18:17] anniversary.
[3:18:18] It was great to for that
[3:18:20] homecoming and to continue to
[3:18:21] see the community of faith
[3:18:23] continue to remain strong.
[3:18:34] On 10 NOVEMBER first of all
[3:18:35] happy birthday brains 250,
[3:18:37] there you go. That day was
[3:18:38] honored to join a lot of
[3:18:43] veterans at t clay woods
[3:18:45] elementary school veterans day
[3:18:46] celebration and parade they do
[3:18:49] a great job in celebrating our
[3:18:50] veterans and bring out the
[3:18:52] veterans from the knoxville
[3:18:53] bristol committee also tended
[3:18:55] to make your mark event on the
[3:18:57] 13th a great evening lot of
[3:18:58] great brentsville company
[3:19:00] recognized that night whether
[3:19:01] they were one or whether they
[3:19:05] were in the final running.
[3:19:07] Really congratulation all of
[3:19:08] the community businesses that
[3:19:15] are certainly making a
[3:19:17] difference for prince william
[3:19:18] county. This past saturday I
[3:19:20] was joined by chair jefferson
[3:19:22] and supervisor vega at the pump
[3:19:25] track drain ribbon-cutting
[3:19:27] really appreciate the work of
[3:19:28] parks foundation in helping to
[3:19:30] raise the funds get that to
[3:19:32] fruition I tell you to watch
[3:19:33] three-year-old kids on a
[3:19:34] bicycle riding up and down
[3:19:36] these pump trucks it's amazing.
[3:19:38] It was more amazing watching
[3:19:41] the old guys do it.
[3:19:42] Congratulations to the
[3:19:44] community sorry serving as a
[3:19:45] tourist destination as we have
[3:19:47] people coming from outside the
[3:19:48] county to participate.
[3:19:50] mr. Shorter was there as well
[3:19:52] thank you MR. Schlueter coming
[3:19:52] out as well.
[3:19:53] Ouple of items
[3:19:55] on DECEMBER 8 we will be having
[3:19:57] a listening session with chair
[3:19:58] jefferson.
[3:19:59] Regarding the
[3:19:59] .
[3:20:01] [Listing names] Will take place
[3:20:09] from 630 from 6:30 pm to 8 pm
[3:20:11] at the knoxville firehouse in
[3:20:13] knoxville we want to invite the
[3:20:14] community to come out and share
[3:20:16] their perspectives amount want
[3:20:18] to wish everybody a happy thing
[3:20:18] skipping.
[3:20:20] >> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[3:20:21] thank you.
[3:20:23] As mentioned by several of my
[3:20:28] colleagues I also attended the
[3:20:28] .
[3:20:30] [Listing names] Conference also
[3:20:31] just want to say
[3:20:32] congratulations to our new
[3:20:34] PRESIDENT Supervisor victor
[3:20:36] angry those not familiar with.
[3:20:38] [Listing names] Incredibly
[3:20:39] important group basically
[3:20:41] leading on behalf of all local
[3:20:43] elected officials for the
[3:20:44] entire commonwealth to the
[3:20:47] general assembly it's a big job
[3:20:48] obviously you have this board a
[3:20:50] bus and looking forward to
[3:20:52] bridging some gaps with the
[3:20:55] general assembly looking
[3:20:57] forward to supporting you
[3:20:59] however I can also want to
[3:21:01] congratulate supervisor kathy
[3:21:03] smith from fairfax county who
[3:21:04] is the new second vice
[3:21:06] PRESIDENT Of congratulations
[3:21:07] all of us are going to be able
[3:21:09] to work really well together.
[3:21:11] Also on the 12 hosted a
[3:21:13] community meeting with several
[3:21:17] communities in the foundation
[3:21:18] of soil management program for
[3:21:20] them to ask questions to give
[3:21:24] an update on where things stand
[3:21:26] so thank you to county staff
[3:21:27] who was able to be there to
[3:21:29] help answer some of those
[3:21:31] questions. On the 13th I also
[3:21:32] attended the make your mark
[3:21:34] event hosted by economic
[3:21:36] development committee great
[3:21:38] event also just want to thank
[3:21:40] carlos castro a total
[3:21:41] supermarket cooperates to
[3:21:44] stores in woodbridge on winning
[3:21:46] one of the wards very proud of
[3:21:48] all of our woodbridge
[3:21:49] businesses. Also just want to
[3:21:51] point out on the 15th, this
[3:21:52] past weekend I hosted two
[3:21:54] cleanups with keep prince
[3:21:57] william beautiful on separate
[3:21:58] structures of route 11 on the
[3:22:00] northern end and one on the
[3:22:03] southern and I would do thank
[3:22:05] keep prince william beautiful
[3:22:07] two helped organize and all the
[3:22:09] volunteers who came out for
[3:22:09] that.
[3:22:11] Also I want to thank our local
[3:22:12] chapter of omega psi phi
[3:22:14] fraternity for their annual
[3:22:16] scholarship banquet we were
[3:22:17] also joined by former defense
[3:22:19] secretary lloyd alston who
[3:22:22] shared some remarks that was a
[3:22:24] great event I just want to
[3:22:24] thank the omega for the
[3:22:26] incredible work to do here
[3:22:28] locally.
[3:22:29] Lastly in terms of recent
[3:22:33] events I was able to be joined
[3:22:35] by supervisor angry last night
[3:22:37] for the gen. Assembly's
[3:22:39] appropriations committee annual
[3:22:41] retreat which was held here in
[3:22:42] prince william county.
[3:22:43] It was great to meet other
[3:22:45] members of the committee to
[3:22:51] talk about casually what some
[3:22:53] of our priorities are with the
[3:22:55] general assembly is looking to
[3:22:56] do potentially, the next
[3:23:02] session.
[3:23:04] I just want to thank the
[3:23:05] delegation and also other
[3:23:07] members of the preparations
[3:23:09] committee for having their
[3:23:10] retreat here in town for
[3:23:12] upcoming events very quickly on
[3:23:13] the 21st, and a stone bridge
[3:23:15] will be participating once
[3:23:16] again validate treat lighting
[3:23:19] at stonebridge towncenter the
[3:23:21] holiday artesian market and
[3:23:22] activities will start at 5 pm,
[3:23:24] the tree lighting will be at 7
[3:23:26] pm so feel free to come and
[3:23:28] join and on DECEMBER 12, I will
[3:23:30] be hosting the annual senior
[3:23:31] holiday luncheon at the
[3:23:36] woodbridge senior center I look
[3:23:38] forward to seeing chris shorter
[3:23:40] and liza johnson and whoever
[3:23:41] else on the county staff was to
[3:23:43] come and dance with our seniors
[3:23:45] that will be fun allegedly
[3:23:47] later that day I am going to
[3:23:48] gainesville holiday party I
[3:23:50] will tell you supervisor weir
[3:23:51] and I had a thing where we had
[3:23:53] the bourbon and eggnog you have
[3:23:55] just a little bit of shoes to
[3:23:57] fill their we always had a good
[3:23:59] time looking forward to joining
[3:24:00] you there welcome to the team.
[3:24:02] >> Chair Jefferson: do you want
[3:24:04] to say that out loud.
[3:24:06] All) What is your event I want
[3:24:07] to write that down so I can
[3:24:09] compare holiday parties for
[3:24:10] .
[3:24:11] >> Yesli Vega: I thought we
[3:24:13] were saving the best for last.
[3:24:15] [Laughter] Undertaking let's
[3:24:17] dive into it further I want to
[3:24:18] thank our sponsors who were
[3:24:20] able to donate 100 coats for
[3:24:22] our annual coles district
[3:24:37] co-chair this year I'm not sure
[3:24:38] if it's government shut down
[3:24:40] what's going on there's a lot
[3:24:42] of need in our community if you
[3:24:44] have generous donors that are
[3:24:45] constantly asking during this
[3:24:48] time year what they do to help
[3:24:49] I would consider talking about
[3:24:51] the various ways they can help
[3:24:53] the community. Thank you to the
[3:24:54] generous donors in every big
[3:24:56] amount we certainly know that
[3:24:57] those courts will be a blessing
[3:24:59] for children they will not be
[3:25:01] cold this winter season. On
[3:25:02] NOVEMBER 5 I attended the
[3:25:04] dineen transmission line open
[3:25:06] house I attended the press
[3:25:07] conference I also attended the
[3:25:09] formal open house session I
[3:25:11] wanted to hear for myself and
[3:25:13] listen and talk to some of my
[3:25:14] colleagues on the dais we
[3:25:15] expressed that mutual
[3:25:16] agreement
[3:25:18] that we believe those
[3:25:20] transmission plans should go
[3:25:21] underground ethical position we
[3:25:23] will continue to have I want to
[3:25:25] thank all of the members of the
[3:25:26] committee that showed up and it
[3:25:29] to the organizers of the press
[3:25:30] conference leading up to the
[3:25:33] open house on 11/9 I attended.
[3:25:34] [Listing names] It was a long
[3:25:36] essay long because I was in
[3:25:38] such good company that I didn't
[3:25:40] want it to end up missing that
[3:25:41] sarcastically I mean it. We had
[3:25:43] a great time prince william
[3:25:45] county was represented well I
[3:25:46] want to give a special shout
[3:25:48] out to nikki always goes above
[3:25:50] and beyond ensuring we are
[3:25:52] taken care of and to glenn who
[3:25:53] does a great job at advocating
[3:25:55] for priorities here in prince
[3:25:57] william county and of course
[3:25:59] the county attorney who keeps
[3:25:59] us in line.
[3:26:01] The second set of eyes that we
[3:26:03] have with county executive.
[3:26:05] Thank you for joining us at.
[3:26:07] [Listing names] On the 12th, i
[3:26:09] attended the veterans docket
[3:26:11] ceremony with supervisor angry
[3:26:13] and supervisor franklin at our
[3:26:14] last board meeting I talked
[3:26:16] about the drug treatment court
[3:26:18] and how incredible it is to be
[3:26:20] able to put his faith in these
[3:26:22] folks achieving such a great
[3:26:24] accomplishment I will put a
[3:26:25] plug-in if you have not gone to
[3:26:28] the veterans docket ceremony I
[3:26:29] recommend that you do because
[3:26:31] it is really good to see that
[3:26:33] the work that this program does
[3:26:34] and how folks are able to
[3:26:36] overcome and continue to become
[3:26:38] productive members of society.
[3:26:39] N the 13th, I had my early
[3:26:41] thanks giving lunch with folks
[3:26:43] at the manassas health and
[3:26:44] rehab center for bill who want
[3:26:46] to volunteer or have kids high
[3:26:48] schoolers thought to help out
[3:26:49] we have a lot of need at
[3:26:51] nursing homes and facilities of
[3:26:53] the sort you don't have loved
[3:26:55] ones during the holiday season
[3:26:56] if you have some spare time I
[3:26:58] would recommend that you go by
[3:27:00] and sit down and have a cuppa
[3:27:01] coffee lunch with these folks
[3:27:03] who would be very blessed to
[3:27:05] have some company I will say
[3:27:07] that joanne is such a blessing
[3:27:09] she's the one that runs this
[3:27:10] program she says that typically
[3:27:12] during NOVEMBER and DECEMBER
[3:27:14] she does not know what to do
[3:27:15] with the amount of people that
[3:27:17] want to come by. She says there
[3:27:19] are other months throughout the
[3:27:21] year where we are lonely and
[3:27:22] nobody comes. You have 12
[3:27:24] months in the year so if you
[3:27:25] have the time or have somebody
[3:27:31] that is interested I recommend
[3:27:33] these organizations. Two
[3:27:34] attended MR. Mark event will
[3:27:36] take it in a different
[3:27:38] direction christina your
[3:27:39] rockstar thank you for putting
[3:27:40] such a great event on also what
[3:27:42] I like trevor I did not know he
[3:27:44] was quite the comedian in my
[3:27:46] opinion he was the highlight of
[3:27:46] the night.
[3:27:48] Of course everybody had won an
[3:27:49] award but he was great thank
[3:27:51] you to victoria from cakes by
[3:27:53] happy eatery was one of my
[3:27:54] guests along with lisa the
[3:27:55] owner of east coast wings and
[3:27:55] grill.
[3:27:57] I attended the pump truck
[3:27:59] opening along with supervisor
[3:28:01] gordy and chair jefferson I
[3:28:02] think this a great addition to
[3:28:05] our parks and recreation
[3:28:06] portfolio when the staff is
[3:28:08] part of anytime we get to it he
[3:28:10] becomes even happier on the
[3:28:16] 20th I will be partaking as a
[3:28:18] panelist on the own your voice
[3:28:19] public speaking and leadership
[3:28:21] presence this is hosted by the
[3:28:23] realtors association of prince
[3:28:25] william county and the women's
[3:28:27] council of realtors I want to
[3:28:28] end by quickly inviting
[3:28:30] everybody will not name you I
[3:28:31] will say expect to see every
[3:28:33] member of the board attend the
[3:28:35] coles district annual district
[3:28:36] christmas tree lighting
[3:28:38] ceremony I did have most of the
[3:28:40] board attend last year I think
[3:28:41] it was a good time. I hope to
[3:28:43] see everybody this year it will
[3:28:45] take place on DECEMBER 6 at the
[3:28:47] lucasville school at 5 pm
[3:28:48] lastly, it's been a rough year
[3:28:50] for a lot of us I know you're
[3:28:52] on the dais we had some very
[3:28:59] challenging times in our
[3:29:01] personal lives I just want to
[3:29:03] say that not just in the month
[3:29:04] of NOVEMBER or around at the
[3:29:06] time of things event but
[3:29:08] throughout the whole year I'm
[3:29:09] thankful for the love of my
[3:29:11] family the support of my
[3:29:13] friends a lot of you sit on the
[3:29:15] status despite our political
[3:29:16] differences I just want to let
[3:29:18] the people prince william
[3:29:20] county no there is a lot of
[3:29:21] love lot of respect goes on
[3:29:23] behind the scenes that we MAY
[3:29:24] go at it from time to time on
[3:29:26] the dais but at the end of the
[3:29:28] day we are there for each other
[3:29:30] it is not just words that are
[3:29:32] said it is a true reflection of
[3:29:33] love that has been demonstrated
[3:29:35] to me personally by your
[3:29:36] actions I just want to say I'm
[3:29:38] very thankful for you all and
[3:29:40] wish everybody a happy thanks
[3:29:42] giving hope to see you all at
[3:29:43] the christmas tree lighting
[3:29:45] ceremony school and thank you
[3:29:47] so very much that means all is
[3:29:48] forgiven with what I said
[3:29:50] earlier the best for last.
[3:29:52] Sometimes somebody is to be
[3:29:54] valedictorian for today today
[3:29:55] it is victor angry holland is
[3:29:56] out of order.
[3:29:58] >> there is something I just
[3:29:59] learned. We have an
[3:30:00] announcement from the
[3:30:02] governor's office that we
[3:30:04] received $1.1 million for the
[3:30:06] that goes to the american
[3:30:07] battlefield trust for the
[3:30:09] acquisition of hundred 52.2
[3:30:10] acres at bristow station
[3:30:12] battlefield to further expand
[3:30:14] the bristol battlefield and so
[3:30:15] that was announced today I just
[3:30:17] want to get that out to the
[3:30:18] community thank the governor
[3:30:20] for including the bristol
[3:30:22] battlefield entities grants
[3:30:23] over $15 million was given away
[3:30:25] we got 1.1 million of it thank
[3:30:26] you.
[3:30:28] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[3:30:29] [Applause].
[3:30:31] Let's stop trying to steal
[3:30:36] victor's shine
[3:30:37] .
[3:30:39] [Laughter] Ability first of all
[3:30:41] I do look forward to doing the
[3:30:42] town hall with you tom
[3:30:44] supervisor gordy on DECEMBER 8
[3:30:46] because I think there a lot of
[3:30:48] important discussions to be
[3:30:48] had.
[3:30:49] I really want to say that
[3:30:51] prince william county is making
[3:30:52] moves.
[3:30:53] Congratulations to supervisor
[3:30:57] bailey for been named to chair
[3:30:58] at brc. I didn't really want
[3:31:00] uplift supervisor victor angry
[3:31:05] supervisor franklin was saying
[3:31:05] .
[3:31:07] [Listing names] Virginia
[3:31:09] association of counties plays a
[3:31:11] very important role within our
[3:31:11] commonwealth.
[3:31:13] With being the voice of the
[3:31:15] counties legislating for our
[3:31:16] combined advocating for our
[3:31:18] combined legislative agenda so
[3:31:20] the fact that supervisor angry
[3:31:21] has been named the PRESIDENT
[3:31:29] Really is truly a big deal.
[3:31:31] The last person there have been
[3:31:32] three other people from prince
[3:31:34] william county who were named
[3:31:36] the chair last one was john
[3:31:37] jenkins. That was back in 1997.
[3:31:39] We don't want to know I don't
[3:31:41] want to know how old anyone
[3:31:42] was.
[3:31:49] Stop that.
[3:31:50] We are cowboys fans that is
[3:31:52] okay. I really want uplift that
[3:31:53] that is such a big deal it is
[3:31:57] been decades since prince
[3:31:59] william county somebody from
[3:32:00] prince william county has been
[3:32:02] a chair so thank you for taking
[3:32:04] on this tremendous
[3:32:06] responsibility this amazing
[3:32:06] opportunity.
[3:32:08] We are looking forward to great
[3:32:10] things from you this is really
[3:32:12] significant as you've heard
[3:32:14] from a number of people saying
[3:32:15] it I want to use my time to
[3:32:17] really uplift you victor
[3:32:18] because I'm so very proud of
[3:32:20] you I'm so very proud of the
[3:32:22] work you've done you are the
[3:32:24] most senior member of this
[3:32:25] board which that's not saying
[3:32:27] much but that's okay.
[3:32:28] [Laughter] You are the most
[3:32:30] senior member of this board
[3:32:32] looking forward to your
[3:32:33] leadership on.
[3:32:34] [Listing names] With that I
[3:32:36] will turn the floor over to you
[3:32:37] for your update.
[3:32:39] >> Victor Angry: no comments.
[3:32:39] Laughter].
[3:32:40] Let me open this up it's kind
[3:32:41] of a lot.
[3:32:43] Salute to the armed
[3:32:45] forces great event you heard a
[3:32:50] lot about that you heard a lot
[3:32:51] about that.
[3:32:52] [Listing names] Thank you
[3:32:54] everybody that was there
[3:32:57] veterans docket I got to tell
[3:32:58] you I will say what supervisor
[3:33:00] vega said if you have not
[3:33:01] attended one please attend
[3:33:03] those we must always ensure we
[3:33:05] keep our dockets in prince
[3:33:06] william county are drug docket
[3:33:08] in our veterans docket and the
[3:33:09] other docket they want to
[3:33:11] create we will first that it
[3:33:13] make sure is good I think you
[3:33:15] dockets are missing the MR.
[3:33:17] Mark event christina wang and
[3:33:19] your team outstanding I just
[3:33:21] want to recognize my businesses
[3:33:23] businesses throughout the
[3:33:26] county are very important rj
[3:33:28] sinkler with prince william as
[3:33:29] consider this man was homegrown
[3:33:31] he was a kid it's getting there
[3:33:33] he bought the building is
[3:33:34] teaching kids now remember we
[3:33:36] got the deal with the
[3:33:38] washington capitals during the
[3:33:39] following piece he is doing big
[3:33:41] things robert arrington came to
[3:33:43] the county out of dc he was a
[3:33:44] lawyer and his wife they opened
[3:33:46] the afc urgent care on many
[3:33:47] feel right bundle wendy's I
[3:33:49] forget the grocery store in
[3:33:50] that area.
[3:33:51] [Listing names] School of rock
[3:33:52] he has a school of rock just
[3:33:54] like the movie where he is
[3:33:55] teaching kids and adults and
[3:33:59] make go over there and want to
[3:34:01] play for base with this because
[3:34:03] he just opened his business
[3:34:09] great for is sam holman with
[3:34:11] rock creek properties purchased
[3:34:13] for shopping centers here in
[3:34:16] bell city and started literally
[3:34:18] remodeling refurbishing them he
[3:34:19] did the concrete the asphalt
[3:34:22] the painting of the buildings
[3:34:23] it is been great I just want to
[3:34:25] thank all of them for what they
[3:34:26] have done.
[3:34:27] Then the jail basic academy
[3:34:29] graduation had the privilege of
[3:34:31] being the speaker over there to
[3:34:33] the graduating class which went
[3:34:35] very well. Thank everybody that
[3:34:36] was in the house that was
[3:34:37] really good.
[3:34:39] We've had a few anyway thank
[3:34:40] everybody for being there for
[3:34:42] that welcome to the family to
[3:34:44] our latest 25 employees are
[3:34:53] not. I do want to thank omega
[3:34:55] psi phi fraternity inc. They
[3:34:57] honored me with being a citizen
[3:34:59] of the earth there. That was
[3:35:00] really big deal big event
[3:35:02] didn't know that was happening
[3:35:04] I was very honored to receive
[3:35:05] that award from them.
[3:35:08] I just wanted to mention that
[3:35:09] congratulations to pastor
[3:35:11] sandra james they will do her
[3:35:13] best royal investiture if you
[3:35:14] all for saturday she is now
[3:35:18] running first mountain zion
[3:35:20] church congratulations to her
[3:35:22] I'm sure we will hear more from
[3:35:23] her in attending the church.
[3:35:25] Want to just mention and see
[3:35:26] where we go with this I gave
[3:35:28] the director for the arts
[3:35:30] council to look at dissolving.
[3:35:31] You also saw that memo I don't
[3:35:34] know if this is what it needed
[3:35:40] the next steps for providing
[3:35:42] directly to staff to draft a
[3:35:43] resolution to dissolve it
[3:35:45] within a date they got in here
[3:35:47] basically before 30 JUNE 2026
[3:35:49] I'd like to start the year off
[3:35:51] without being dissolved I don't
[3:35:52] know if you need or you need to
[3:35:57] or we need to come back to that
[3:35:58] I know the last meeting is
[3:36:00] DECEMBER 16 I don't know if we
[3:36:02] can make that decision now I
[3:36:03] want to give you a date because
[3:36:05] we have not given you a date if
[3:36:06] that is something to discuss
[3:36:08] with this board you want to
[3:36:10] talk about that now or hold it
[3:36:12] until DECEMBER 16?
[3:36:13] I don't know if it is a
[3:36:14] directive I'm just trying to
[3:36:20] give a date on that.
[3:36:21] >> it would need to be a
[3:36:22] directive. The directive was
[3:36:26] really a recommendation of
[3:36:28] ultimately you or another board
[3:36:29] member would be
[3:36:30] interested in
[3:36:31] providing the directive we
[3:36:33] would need for it to be done.
[3:36:35] >> Victor Angry: do we want to
[3:36:37] come back on DECEMBER 16 and
[3:36:39] provide that
[3:36:39] .
[3:36:40] >> please share your directive
[3:36:42] language with the board and the
[3:36:44] chief of staff then you can
[3:36:45] come back give the directive.
[3:36:47] >> Victor Angry: let me swing
[3:36:49] through to make sure I got the
[3:36:50] last and the greatest one i
[3:36:52] want to thank michael and ari
[3:36:54] from first lego league metal
[3:37:00] jackets let me tell you
[3:37:02] something we must always
[3:37:03] support these young folks and
[3:37:05] what they are doing they had a
[3:37:17] two day competition we have
[3:37:19] folks coming in from chantilly
[3:37:20] from loudoun county from
[3:37:22] richmond county from forth
[3:37:23] south of richmond county all
[3:37:25] the schools came to be part of
[3:37:27] this competition this lego tech
[3:37:29] competition I would tell you a
[3:37:30] note this is the schools
[3:37:32] program I was there with tracy
[3:37:33] blake yet so schools that was
[3:37:35] amazing what you think michael
[3:37:37] and ari for giving me the
[3:37:38] tour's these two young people
[3:37:40] stood up a lot of the stuff and
[3:37:42] they wanted they have kids and
[3:37:43] they are as young as five years
[3:37:45] old it was pretty amazing to
[3:37:47] watch over the weekend.
[3:37:48] If you have not seen that I
[3:37:50] would ask that we get involved
[3:37:51] and we keep this first lego
[3:37:54] league movement going because
[3:37:56] that is exactly what we need in
[3:37:57] this county for our youth going
[3:37:59] forward. That is it that is my
[3:38:00] I'm done I want to praise what
[3:38:02] they are doing over there that
[3:38:03] is a great thing. I'm done
[3:38:04] thank you venture.
[3:40:35] >> Chair Jefferson: we are back
[3:40:37] before we go to 7 o'clock we
[3:40:38] have some things to finish with
[3:40:39] closed session.
[3:40:43] I'd like to go ahead and
[3:40:45] certify what we discussed we
[3:40:46] will continue in closed session
[3:40:48] we have other additional items
[3:40:50] we were not able to get to for
[3:40:52] the first item I would like to
[3:40:53] guess we will have to do a
[3:40:54] motion correct emotion
[3:40:56] certified I like to get a
[3:41:00] motion to certify we discussed.
[3:41:01] >> so moved.
[3:41:02] >> second.
[3:41:06] >> Chair Jefferson: do I need a
[3:41:08] motion or report out what we
[3:41:08] agreed to
[3:41:08] .
[3:41:10] >> Michele Robl,County
[3:41:13] Attorney: [Unclear audio]
[3:41:14] >> Chair Jefferson: I would
[3:41:19] like to get a motion to
[3:41:19] .
[3:41:20] >> this is just to certify.
[3:41:22] >> Chair Jefferson: this is
[3:41:24] just to certify that is
[3:41:26] unanimous thank you I would
[3:41:30] like to get a motion to name
[3:41:31] supervisor
[3:41:32] yesli vega as chair
[3:41:32] pro tem.
[3:41:32] >> Kenny
[3:41:34] Boddye: I make a motion
[3:41:34] to approve.
[3:41:36] > Chair
[3:41:38] Jefferson: and discussion.
[3:41:50] Let's take a vote.
[3:42:00] Vote unanimous supervisor vega
[3:42:02] or abstaining from the vote.
[3:42:04] >> Chair Jefferson: for the
[3:42:06] next one would likely get a
[3:42:07] motion to replace victor angry
[3:42:08] as a regular member of the
[3:42:09] board
[3:42:10] audit committee or
[3:42:10] and name
[3:42:12] of supervisor george stewart.
[3:42:14] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice
[3:42:14] Chair: I
[3:42:16] make a motion to approve.
[3:42:16] >
[3:42:18] Chair Jefferson: including MR.
[3:42:20] Angry is an alternate.
[3:42:22] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[3:42:23] make a motion to approve
[3:42:24] .
[3:42:26] >> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[3:42:26] motion.
[3:42:28] >> Chair Jefferson: I can do
[3:42:30] all of those the rest I will do
[3:42:31] I would like a motion to we
[3:42:46] will do that when over to name
[3:42:48] george stewart as a regular
[3:42:50] member of the board audit
[3:42:51] committee he will replace
[3:42:53] supervisor victor angry will
[3:42:54] not be an alternate on the
[3:42:56] committee I would like to name
[3:42:57] george stewart to join the
[3:43:00] audit committee as an alternate
[3:43:01] would like to name george
[3:43:03] stewart as a regular for the
[3:43:05] potomac and rappahannock
[3:43:06] transportation commission known
[3:43:08] as prtc and to name
[3:43:09] him on the
[3:43:10] climate energy environment
[3:43:11] policy committee and the
[3:43:12] chesapeake
[3:43:13] bay and water
[3:43:14] resources policy committee
[3:43:16] those are two separate
[3:43:18] committees in the metropolitan
[3:43:19] washington council of
[3:43:19] governments.
[3:43:21] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[3:43:23] make a motion to approve.
[3:43:23] >
[3:43:24] Kenny Boddye: I second the
[3:43:27] motion he will be an alternate
[3:43:28] chesapeake bay.
[3:43:29] >> Chair Jefferson: it is been
[3:43:31] properly moved and seconded any
[3:43:33] discussion let's vote.
[3:43:34] Vote unanimous supervisor
[3:43:36] stewart abstaining from the
[3:43:36] vote.
[3:43:38] >> Chair Jefferson: just to
[3:43:40] name after we finish with
[3:43:41] everything with the 7 o'clock
[3:43:43] meeting will go back into
[3:43:44] closed session we have two
[3:43:46] additional items to discuss
[3:43:47] with that it is now 7:03 pm we
[3:43:49] are going to start our evening
[3:43:51] session I would like to begin
[3:43:52] with 13 a with 13 ai would like
[3:43:54] to ask the applicant to come up
[3:43:55] and present to us.
[3:43:57] >> MADAM Chair if I could
[3:43:59] afford the applicant comes up
[3:44:00] and speaks I would like to note
[3:44:02] that tonight as we start to
[3:44:03] take a look at this case we
[3:44:08] will notice that there will be
[3:44:09] different from the usual cases.
[3:44:11] We've seen in the past.
[3:44:12] As you MAY be aware of the comp
[3:44:18] plan opened up shortly after
[3:44:19] the passage developers began
[3:44:21] drawing up plans to bring
[3:44:23] presidential communities to the
[3:44:25] area between sudley manor drive
[3:44:26] and rawlins ford road now
[3:44:28] renters of other commitments of
[3:44:30] the smart growth sustainable
[3:44:31] peripheral plan for road
[3:44:36] schools parks please inquire
[3:44:39] the mistakes of overdevelopment
[3:44:41] before road schools and several
[3:44:42] services already are what led
[3:44:44] to the challenges we saw in the
[3:44:46] 2000 along lindholm road and a
[3:44:47] severe opposition to further
[3:44:49] develop meant at the time
[3:44:51] unfortunately the bad memories
[3:45:01] of that approach still linger
[3:45:03] for many in our community when
[3:45:05] I saw that seven members were
[3:45:06] being proposed I sat down with
[3:45:09] the developers and asked him to
[3:45:10] take a different approach.
[3:45:12] Noting that the whole would be
[3:45:13] greater than the sum of the
[3:45:15] parts I asked him to come up
[3:45:16] with a unified approach to
[3:45:18] roads parks and schools fire
[3:45:20] and police to community design
[3:45:21] along ben hill rd. And other
[3:45:23] elements. While there are legal
[3:45:25] limitations imposed by the gen.
[3:45:28] Assembly and how far we can go
[3:45:31] resort to work within the
[3:45:32] parameters we have district the
[3:45:34] right balance tonight is the
[3:45:35] first case we will see that
[3:45:37] incorporates a unified plan a
[3:45:38] lot of work over the past
[3:45:40] nearly 2 years has been put
[3:45:42] into identifying the challenges
[3:45:43] engaging with neighboring
[3:45:45] communities and seeking
[3:45:46] solutions to address the
[3:45:47] challenges.
[3:45:49] My hope is that this helps us
[3:45:51] take a smarter more holistic
[3:45:52] approach to development I
[3:45:54] appreciate county staff support
[3:45:56] for this approach particularly
[3:45:58] those within our transportation
[3:46:01] planning departments and I hope
[3:46:02] this will better serve our
[3:46:04] county going forward thank you
[3:46:05] MADAM Chair.
[3:46:07] >> Chair Jefferson: that you so
[3:46:08] very much.
[3:46:09] You MAY approach.
[3:46:11] >> Applicant: good evening and
[3:46:13] CHAIRMAN And members of the
[3:46:15] board I'm sherman patrick with
[3:46:17] competence and doing we are
[3:46:19] here for present brookfield
[3:46:21] homes in the supplication for
[3:46:22] rezoning the property is
[3:46:24] located on the ben hill rd.,
[3:46:26] glendora appreciated MR. Gray's
[3:46:27] introduction it will cut down
[3:46:29] on the amount of time I will be
[3:46:31] spending your your this evening
[3:46:33] trying to keep this as brief as
[3:46:34] possible. I have about 15
[3:46:36] slides I will spend more time
[3:46:37] on this first slide probably
[3:46:38] then any of the others.
[3:46:41] The property on this case is
[3:46:42] located on the north side of
[3:46:44] ben hill rd. W. Of great mark
[3:46:47] brad johnson plan community the
[3:46:48] application was submitted in
[3:46:50] 2023 FEBRUARY 2023 it was hard
[3:46:52] by the planning commission the
[3:46:54] first time in FEBRUARY 2025 and
[3:46:56] then in MAY 2025. The planning
[3:46:58] commission recommended approval
[3:47:00] after hearing this past MAY
[3:47:01] proffered conditions include
[3:47:03] master zoning plan design
[3:47:04] guidelines for architectural
[3:47:07] and landscaping treatments
[3:47:08] throughout the community a 50
[3:47:10] foot buffer along ben hill rd.
[3:47:12] And many other measures to
[3:47:13] assure a quality of design that
[3:47:15] would be a benchmark along ben
[3:47:16] hill rd.
[3:47:18] And be continued throughout the
[3:47:19] length of ben hill rd.
[3:47:20] As supervisor gordy was
[3:47:22] striving for.
[3:47:23] In addition there is a water
[3:47:25] quality monitoring contribution
[3:47:27] that is proffered $75 per acre
[3:47:29] there is a fire rescue
[3:47:31] contribution of $1200 personal
[3:47:33] family dwelling $1170 personal
[3:47:36] family attached townhouse.
[3:47:37] The schools will receive a
[3:47:44] $5000 per unit for the market
[3:47:46] rate units in the proposed
[3:47:47] development and if the parks
[3:47:50] and recreation department will
[3:47:52] receive 47 for the market rate
[3:47:53] units in the proposed
[3:47:55] development and if the parks
[3:47:57] and recreation department will
[3:48:07] receive $4700 per single-family
[3:48:08] dwelling in $3900 per single
[3:48:10] family attached in addition to
[3:48:12] the dedication of a 10.5 acre
[3:48:14] property that brookfield owns
[3:48:16] that is a long broad run it is
[3:48:17] somewhat separated from the
[3:48:20] site it fills in the missing
[3:48:21] link of the broad run linear
[3:48:22] trail that is along linton hall
[3:48:24] road. There are 310 foot wide
[3:48:26] shared use path's the trails
[3:48:28] paved asphalt trails along ben
[3:48:28] hill rd.
[3:48:30] 1 both sides of ben hill rd. I
[3:48:32] will cover that were in the
[3:48:33] transportation section there
[3:48:35] will be one notably also that
[3:48:36] will extended northward from
[3:48:38] ben hill rd. This development
[3:48:40] to connect to the adjoining
[3:48:42] property so it will eventually
[3:48:44] become a connection to the
[3:48:45] direct connection to the broad
[3:48:46] run linear trail.
[3:48:48] That is north of this property.
[3:48:50] There is a $17,000 per unit
[3:48:51] contribution both townhouses
[3:48:53] and single-family detached for
[3:48:55] the improvement of ben hill rd.
[3:48:57] And many of the details about
[3:48:59] the improvement of the road
[3:49:01] that will be covered further on
[3:49:02] in the application for the
[3:49:04] discussion. The property is 55
[3:49:11] acres it is the conference of
[3:49:12] planets calling for 1-4
[3:49:14] dwelling units per acre the
[3:49:15] existing zoning is a applicant
[3:49:17] is proposing three dwelling
[3:49:20] units per acre or total of 168
[3:49:22] it dwelling units there will be
[3:49:24] 151 market rate dwelling units
[3:49:29] at different price points and
[3:49:31] they will be affordable
[3:49:33] commitment to affordable
[3:49:34] workforce housing of 17 minutes
[3:49:36] that is 10% of the total 46%
[3:49:38] open space which is generous
[3:49:39] open space area of a project of
[3:49:43] this size.
[3:49:45] Housing chapter of the
[3:49:46] conference of plan knows the
[3:49:48] area in fact the entire nation
[3:49:51] is facing a significant housing
[3:49:53] shortage the net result of that
[3:49:58] is escalating housing prices
[3:50:00] the comprehensive plan does two
[3:50:02] things in that regard it
[3:50:04] encourages a diversity of
[3:50:06] housing at different price
[3:50:07] points which this project
[3:50:09] includes it also encourages the
[3:50:11] provision of affordable housing
[3:50:13] and workforce housing which
[3:50:15] this application also provides
[3:50:28] it will be eight households
[3:50:29] eight homes that will be
[3:50:31] constructed that will be
[3:50:32] affordable to households
[3:50:34] earning 80% of the area median
[3:50:36] income and then home still be
[3:50:37] affordable to households
[3:50:39] earning 120% of the area median
[3:50:41] income balance of the homes
[3:50:43] will be considered market rate
[3:50:45] homes as you can see from this
[3:50:46] exhibit house types are varied
[3:50:46] by with.
[3:50:52] In this case we are
[3:50:54] talking about a 70 foot wide
[3:50:55] lot with that affects the width
[3:50:57] of the house that affects the
[3:50:58] size of the homes some of the
[3:51:00] single family detached will be
[3:51:02] smaller lots houses will follow
[3:51:04] that in comparison to the size
[3:51:05] of them then with respect to
[3:51:07] the single family attached it's
[3:51:09] a little bit easier to see a
[3:51:11] direct relationship between the
[3:51:14] lot size and the unit with but
[3:51:16] there will be 24 foot wide
[3:51:18] single-family attached 20 foot
[3:51:20] and 16 foot wide single-family
[3:51:22] attached. This provides you a
[3:51:24] mixture of five different
[3:51:25] housing styles that gives you a
[3:51:27] diversity of price points that
[3:51:29] is something that is very badly
[3:51:30] needed in the market.
[3:51:32] At the planning commission in
[3:51:34] FEBRUARY we heard from a
[3:51:35] neighbor that owns this
[3:51:37] property here accesses 6 acres,
[3:51:39] it's immediately adjacent to
[3:51:40] the strathmore proposal
[3:51:42] strathmore has a 50 foot buffer
[3:51:43] against that property this
[3:51:49] neighbor was very interested in
[3:51:50] what the impacts might be or
[3:51:52] how that was going to affect
[3:51:54] their enjoyment of their own.
[3:51:54] The property
[3:51:56] is outlined here in
[3:51:58] this aerial photograph, that
[3:51:59] issue has been resolved
[3:52:00] brookfield met with them they
[3:52:02] have the property under
[3:52:03] contract now this property will
[3:52:06] be purchased by brookfield they
[3:52:08] have a good arrangement between
[3:52:14] the two of them for their
[3:52:15] transitioning from the site
[3:52:17] settlement would occur after
[3:52:18] the rezoning. Then there will
[3:52:20] be some time for them to take
[3:52:23] their time to relocate
[3:52:25] eventually brookfield will
[3:52:26] probably come in with the
[3:52:28] rezoning for this piece of
[3:52:30] property it is in nonconforming
[3:52:32] a1 zone lot you can see from
[3:52:33] this photograph there is a
[3:52:35] large water feature upon the
[3:52:36] property you cannot quite make
[3:52:38] it out but there is a stream
[3:52:40] that comes into the property
[3:52:42] through here it is pretty much
[3:52:43] environmentally constrained
[3:52:46] there will be no significant
[3:52:47] increase in the number of
[3:52:49] dwelling units as a result of
[3:52:53] this when it comes in later on.
[3:52:55] Schools is always a very
[3:52:56] important component of the
[3:52:57] analysis you heard supervisor
[3:52:59] gordy mentioned earlier school
[3:53:01] capacity in enrollment is
[3:53:03] something we give careful
[3:53:05] consideration the analysis of
[3:53:06] available school capacity in
[3:53:12] this area focus to some
[3:53:13] challenges that the school
[3:53:15] system is facing. Those
[3:53:17] challenges include instances
[3:53:18] where there are schools that
[3:53:21] are substantially overcrowded
[3:53:25] and the schools that are being
[3:53:27] utilized under capacity. If a
[3:53:29] school is being utilized in the
[3:53:30] capacity and it is not
[3:53:32] operating efficiently sometimes
[3:53:34] they do not have sufficient
[3:53:36] funding to provide the special
[3:53:37] programs that are expected in
[3:53:39] the community. There is a
[3:53:41] negative impact of being under
[3:53:43] enrolled if you will there is a
[3:53:44] declining public school
[3:53:50] enrollment across the county we
[3:53:51] were not able to get a
[3:53:53] memorandum this is an issue
[3:53:55] that is still unfolding for the
[3:53:56] school board there will have to
[3:53:58] be making some difficult
[3:54:00] decisions in the future to
[3:54:01] address these challenges what
[3:54:04] we provided this evening is a
[3:54:06] collection of public statements
[3:54:08] that have been in the media
[3:54:10] about their recommendation this
[3:54:11] is an issue that gets resolved
[3:54:14] at their level possibly through
[3:54:16] school district as through the
[3:54:17] school assignments which I will
[3:54:19] show you an example of in the
[3:54:21] second. The knoxville school
[3:54:22] provides elementary and middle
[3:54:24] school education for this site
[3:54:26] at the present time when the
[3:54:27] district boundaries are drawn.
[3:54:29] The knoxville school is
[3:54:29] overcapacity.
[3:54:31] The brentsville district
[3:54:33] article is under capacity it
[3:54:35] has available capacity to serve
[3:54:36] the needs of this particular
[3:54:36] project.
[3:54:41] We mentioned let's
[3:54:50] see, I think I skipped a slide.
[3:55:02] I did.
[3:55:04] This is showing the declining
[3:55:06] enrollment challenges the
[3:55:08] school board is facing there is
[3:55:09] been a's persistent reduction
[3:55:11] over the past seven years of
[3:55:12] 3000 students fewer than are
[3:55:14] enrolled in county schools in
[3:55:16] the next four years there is
[3:55:18] expectation that another 43,000
[3:55:19] students would be in the system
[3:55:20] if you will.
[3:55:28] [Unclear audio] The boundaries
[3:55:31] of the seven applications that
[3:55:34] supervisor gordy mentioned that
[3:55:36] were requested to do a
[3:55:38] collaborative effort to analyze
[3:55:42] the theme public infrastructure
[3:55:43] impacts that would come from
[3:55:45] the collective results of these
[3:55:50] different developments.
[3:55:52] There was a lot of focus on
[3:55:53] schools and transportation
[3:55:55] there was some significant
[3:55:56] challenges there.
[3:55:58] The conclusions of this
[3:55:58] , worked
[3:56:09] up the $5000 per unit monetary
[3:56:10] contribution would be
[3:56:11] consistent with the impacts
[3:56:13] that were being created and
[3:56:15] consistent with the state code
[3:56:16] parameters for providing
[3:56:18] monetary providing for
[3:56:20] offsetting impacts of public
[3:56:22] infrastructure. Also the other
[3:56:23] would rezoning is dedicating a
[3:56:24] middle school site.
[3:56:26] On this map you see then hill
[3:56:28] road coming through the
[3:56:30] property this alignment here is
[3:56:32] sutley manor road the
[3:56:32] development did you see over
[3:56:36] here is.
[3:56:38] [Listing names] There is quite
[3:56:40] a bit of residential
[3:56:42] development in this area
[3:56:43] suburban residential type
[3:56:44] development on the north side
[3:56:46] of ben hill wrote today about
[3:56:48] this out of the view is
[3:56:50] kingsburg development that is
[3:56:52] asked by by linville road it is
[3:56:53] coming in the direction of
[3:56:55] linda hall road corridor.
[3:56:56] Trathmore is outlined right
[3:56:57] here we recommend the shape
[3:57:03] here there's a gold color to
[3:57:05] try to help it stand out these
[3:57:07] other applications have been
[3:57:08] filed most of these have been
[3:57:10] filed by other applicants
[3:57:11] brookfield has recently filed
[3:57:13] the silver bell case that is
[3:57:16] been into the county for a
[3:57:18] little over six weeks we are
[3:57:20] awaiting comments on the first
[3:57:22] review.
[3:57:26] The applicant in the master
[3:57:27] develop and study came up with
[3:57:35] a commonsense type of approach
[3:57:37] that could be used for selling
[3:57:38] students from these
[3:57:39] developments to existing
[3:57:40] schools in the area.
[3:57:42] It would relieve the capacity
[3:57:45] problems at knoxville school.
[3:57:47] This is not this chart showing
[3:57:49] how students would flow from
[3:57:51] elementary school to middle
[3:57:53] school twice school is not
[3:57:55] requiring the redistricting of
[3:57:56] any students that are currently
[3:57:58] attending school.
[3:57:59] These are from vacant parcels
[3:58:00] that are part of this rezoning
[3:58:02] or these seven rezoning
[3:58:03] applications that we talk
[3:58:04] about.
[3:58:05] Actually I'm sorry there were
[3:58:08] an additional six proposals
[3:58:10] that were added to the analysis
[3:58:11] there were six zoning cases
[3:58:14] that had been approved or were
[3:58:16] very near approval going
[3:58:18] through the system those were
[3:58:20] added. When it comes to schools
[3:58:22] analysis we are not analyzing
[3:58:26] just the seven applicants that
[3:58:31] we've given the title
[3:58:33] application where including six
[3:58:35] other applications there in the
[3:58:36] vicinity and also served by the
[3:58:41] same schools I have several
[3:58:42] slides to give you a sense of
[3:58:44] what the enrollments are at the
[3:58:45] present time and what they
[3:58:50] would be as a result of this
[3:58:51] development this late
[3:58:53] projection up to 2037 you see
[3:58:59] here that for the elementary
[3:59:03] school level the glenn kirk
[3:59:07] elementary school after the
[3:59:09] projected students that are
[3:59:11] based on without the approval
[3:59:18] of the seven cases, then read
[3:59:19] these cases into the mix there
[3:59:21] are still hundred 59 and the
[3:59:24] seats capacity beyond what is
[3:59:26] being required for the
[3:59:27] developments. Cedar point
[3:59:29] elementary school you have a
[3:59:30] similar margin it's still 51
[3:59:32] empty seat after all of these
[3:59:34] rezoning's are addressed.
[3:59:37] Through the assignment process
[3:59:41] that is been proposed for rt
[3:59:42] clay would after all of the
[3:59:44] students are added would have
[3:59:46] 124 empty seats what is
[3:59:49] striking about these charts is
[3:59:55] uc that these schools and the
[3:59:56] school are 50% or below
[4:00:00] capacity without some type of
[4:00:01] growth being added to those.
[4:00:04] Which is problematic.
[4:00:06] This is the same type of format
[4:00:13] we have the force dollar middle
[4:00:14] school even after the addition
[4:00:16] of the 13 cases you have
[4:00:18] hundred and 10 empty seats that
[4:00:20] is including the 210 seat
[4:00:26] expansion that is in the 2028
[4:00:28] cip. It will be funded with a
[4:00:29] $5000 per unit contribution
[4:00:31] would come from this
[4:00:32] application and the other vint
[4:00:34] hill applicants. Over
[4:00:36] gainesville middle school same
[4:00:38] thing only there would be 398
[4:00:39] empty seats after the addition
[4:00:41] of all three of these all 13 of
[4:00:43] these proposals.
[4:00:45] Then high school again sort of
[4:00:50] the same situation patriot high
[4:00:51] school would have 534 empty
[4:00:54] seats afterwards gainesville
[4:00:56] high school but have 81 seats.
[4:00:58] What we tried to propose is a
[4:01:05] commonsense way of distributing
[4:01:07] the students that will be
[4:01:09] generated by this new growth as
[4:01:10] opposed to saying that you have
[4:01:18] to redistrict existing
[4:01:20] communities which is always a
[4:01:22] very sensitive point. There MAY
[4:01:24] be some other efficiencies that
[4:01:26] the school board games and they
[4:01:27] decide to buy redistricting
[4:01:29] that is a decision that would
[4:01:30] be up to them we think there is
[4:01:32] an opportunity here to address
[4:01:33] the need.
[4:01:34] With respect to the vint hill
[4:01:36] road widening and making it
[4:01:38] consistent there is a design
[4:01:40] that is been agreed upon by the
[4:01:44] vint hill road developers they
[4:01:46] have agreed to this 120 foot
[4:01:48] right-of-way section to see
[4:01:49] right here there will be two
[4:01:51] lanes in each direction 16 foot
[4:01:53] median and a 10 foot wide
[4:01:54] shared use path on both sides
[4:01:56] of the road which is not
[4:01:58] required in the normal county
[4:01:59] standards or aetna v.Standards
[4:02:01] in addition to that there is a
[4:02:03] utility easement and a 50 foot
[4:02:05] landscape buffer along both
[4:02:07] sides of the road which is also
[4:02:08] not required under the existing
[4:02:10] standards requirement.
[4:02:12] This exhibit is showing for
[4:02:19] same project that all of the
[4:02:21] projects that are part of the
[4:02:23] proposal these are the traffic
[4:02:24] generating vint hill
[4:02:27] applications the strathmore
[4:02:28] piece is right here again.
[4:02:36] With respect to strathmore
[4:02:38] there is no negative impact on
[4:02:39] the level of service or
[4:02:41] capacity on the vint hill road.
[4:02:43] It is only through the
[4:02:45] participation and collaborative
[4:02:46] effort that strathmore is
[4:02:49] obligated to provide additional
[4:02:51] improvements and monetary
[4:02:52] contributions to make sure that
[4:02:55] vint hill road has a uniform
[4:02:56] cross-section and is built in a
[4:02:57] way that is addressing the
[4:02:59] needs of growth.
[4:03:01] The proffers that are being
[4:03:04] proposed provide for the
[4:03:12] oversight of a development
[4:03:14] agreement coordinated effort by
[4:03:16] the prince william county
[4:03:18] department of transportation
[4:03:20] there is a commitment to join
[4:03:22] develop meant agreement by the
[4:03:23] applicant's will be dedication
[4:03:25] of right away and monetary
[4:03:26] contributions to the county or
[4:03:28] to the joint development fund
[4:03:29] and phasing that assures that
[4:03:31] the impacts of home
[4:03:32] construction to not get ahead
[4:03:34] of the road construction and
[4:03:36] road level of service. I think
[4:03:37] that was a very important
[4:03:38] feature that supervisor gordy
[4:03:51] wanted to attain from this.
[4:03:53] There also provisions for
[4:03:55] interim improvements is
[4:03:56] necessary to maintain the
[4:03:58] levels of service if the
[4:03:59] opportunity arises for the
[4:04:01] county to be able to leverage
[4:04:02] the additional improvements in
[4:04:04] the corridor through taking
[4:04:06] direct supervision of the
[4:04:08] deconstruction of these road
[4:04:10] improvements the county has the
[4:04:11] flexibility to do that if we
[4:04:13] take all the funding being
[4:04:14] provided by the joint
[4:04:16] development agreement fund and
[4:04:17] use that for road construction.
[4:04:19] This is a flowchart prepared by
[4:04:21] the transportation department
[4:04:23] to keep track of the different
[4:04:24] pieces would go.
[4:04:26] I'm going to try to summarize
[4:04:28] that very briefly the first
[4:04:29] column here is the first
[4:04:31] scenario is actually just if
[4:04:32] one reason we submitted that
[4:04:34] lays out how they funding would
[4:04:36] be collected then the applicant
[4:04:38] would complete clearing and
[4:04:39] grading across their property
[4:04:42] and provide improvements
[4:04:43] necessary to maintain the
[4:04:45] levels of service. They also
[4:04:46] dedicate the right way.
[4:04:48] The second scenario is if all
[4:04:50] of these seven or 11 zoning I'm
[4:04:52] getting the numbers mixed up
[4:04:53] all seven cases that were part
[4:04:58] of the transportation agreement
[4:05:00] are approved in that instance
[4:05:02] you have really two columns
[4:05:05] this is just decision points
[4:05:07] made along the way but you have
[4:05:08] two columns because the first
[4:05:10] column is indicating the
[4:05:12] developers are completing the
[4:05:23] road through their joint
[4:05:25] element agreement through their
[4:05:27] private clinician overseen by
[4:05:29] the prince william county
[4:05:31] transportation department the
[4:05:33] other column is in the event
[4:05:35] the prince william county
[4:05:36] trepidation department decides
[4:05:38] it would like to take the
[4:05:39] project and provided direct
[4:05:40] supervision.
[4:05:42] That would presumably happen if
[4:05:43] there is a wait to get
[4:05:45] regularly sharing funds or
[4:05:46] additional funding that would
[4:05:48] allow them to leverage things
[4:05:50] and get bit better and more
[4:05:51] improvement in that quarter.
[4:05:53] Then the final scenario here is
[4:05:54] for in the event over several
[4:05:56] of the seven applications that
[4:05:58] are part of the transportation
[4:06:01] agreement would be approved
[4:06:02] operationally is the same as
[4:06:04] this over here there still
[4:06:06] decision where the county can
[4:06:07] take it over if the county does
[4:06:09] not take over there is a joint
[4:06:11] develop meant agreement and
[4:06:12] improvements will be provided
[4:06:14] in a phased fashion and in a
[4:06:15] way that will maintain levels
[4:06:18] of service throughout the
[4:06:19] length of the concept area for
[4:06:20] the improvements to vint hill
[4:06:21] road.
[4:06:22] This concludes the presentation
[4:06:25] the applicant is addressing the
[4:06:27] prince william county needs as
[4:06:28] well as the master development
[4:06:29] plan is looking at the prince
[4:06:31] william county needs for
[4:06:33] schools particularly
[4:06:35] transportation it is compatible
[4:06:36] with the densities that are in
[4:06:38] the area of the development
[4:06:40] area of the project obviously
[4:06:40] .
[4:06:41] [Listing names] Which is a
[4:06:43] large plant community school
[4:06:45] assignments are suggested that
[4:06:48] could avoid the issue that,
[4:06:50] from redistricting but that is
[4:06:52] truly a schoolboard discussion
[4:06:54] that needs to be made at a
[4:06:55] later date. But the vint hill
[4:06:57] road four-lane improvements on
[4:06:59] the part of this application
[4:07:01] and the agreement between the
[4:07:02] collaborative effort that
[4:07:05] really stands out from all the
[4:07:07] earth is only cases that I've
[4:07:09] witnessed the time I've been
[4:07:10] around here in doing this. This
[4:07:12] is really pretty exceptional
[4:07:14] type of project that has been
[4:07:16] undertaken I think everyone
[4:07:18] involved transportation
[4:07:19] department as well as the
[4:07:21] different applicants are to be
[4:07:22] commended for this effort.
[4:07:24] If you have any questions I'd
[4:07:26] be happy to answer them.
[4:07:28] >> Chair Jefferson: I don't see
[4:07:29] anything in the queue.
[4:07:31] Thank you so very much we will
[4:07:41] now go on to the county.
[4:07:49] >> Scott Meyer: planning
[4:07:51] office. As sherman pointed out
[4:07:53] that this project has been a
[4:07:58] collaborative effort for the
[4:07:59] vint hill corridor this is been
[4:08:01] in process for just about 2.5
[4:08:03] years to clarify it is counter
[4:08:05] numerous different iterations
[4:08:08] of different layout changes it
[4:08:10] initially went to the planning
[4:08:12] commission in FEBRUARY then it
[4:08:14] went to the planning commission
[4:08:15] for final action in MAY then it
[4:08:17] went to the planning commission
[4:08:19] for final action in MAY 2025,
[4:08:21] there has been a lot of
[4:08:23] coordination with the various
[4:08:24] applicants parties in this
[4:08:26] corridor just to kind of point
[4:08:30] that out.
[4:08:32] you've been oriented with the
[4:08:33] site busier this is strathmore
[4:08:35] this is the first project in
[4:08:38] the seven the 720 quarter
[4:08:40] projects to which sherman was
[4:08:41] mentioning just to clarify this
[4:08:42] is the first project in the
[4:08:50] density is 3.03 dwelling units
[4:08:52] per acre proposed bridge which
[4:08:53] we feel is very much in line
[4:08:58] with the 1-4 in the residential
[4:09:00] expected densities. Staff is
[4:09:02] recommended approval is 55
[4:09:12] acres we will have a total of
[4:09:13] 168 residential units
[4:09:15] consisting of single-family
[4:09:17] detached and single-family
[4:09:18] attached all of the affordable
[4:09:21] units are the single-family
[4:09:22] attached there is various
[4:09:24] widths and so forth that
[4:09:25] sherman mentioned just wanted
[4:09:27] to get your orientation on that
[4:09:28] matter this is on the north
[4:09:30] side of vint hill road. Just to
[4:09:32] clarify that this is and what
[4:09:34] is the development area braemar
[4:09:36] is to the east you will see
[4:09:38] right here we are looking for
[4:09:39] compatibility that is not to
[4:09:41] ignore the fact that there is a
[4:09:46] massive infrastructure outlay
[4:09:48] for this whole area. This is
[4:09:49] drastically going to change the
[4:09:51] whole corridor of this area we
[4:09:53] have been in coordination with
[4:09:54] the applicant and know
[4:09:56] supervisor gordy office has
[4:09:57] been doing a lot of endeavors
[4:09:59] with that. This is where we are
[4:10:00] right now is currently zoned
[4:10:11] a-1 just to give you an idea.
[4:10:12] This is showing all project
[4:10:14] right here I just marked with
[4:10:16] red start the strathmore
[4:10:17] product again just the first
[4:10:19] one that is before the board
[4:10:21] this is showing material this
[4:10:23] in the context of the project
[4:10:25] the frontage improvements are
[4:10:27] being made there is a proposed
[4:10:31] realignment of pioneer drive
[4:10:33] there is a roundabout that is
[4:10:35] ultimately proposed in this
[4:10:35] area.
[4:10:37] We are focusing here on the
[4:10:39] strathmore site itself.
[4:10:40] This is from the design
[4:10:47] guidelines as sherman mentioned
[4:10:49] there numerous connections to
[4:10:51] the external part of the site
[4:10:52] is just trying to give you an
[4:10:54] orientation of any perspective
[4:10:55] of how it will link to the
[4:10:57] other projects greenhaven to
[4:10:59] the east the village of broad
[4:11:01] run to the west although what
[4:11:02] is on the south side of vint
[4:11:04] hill road and as sherman
[4:11:06] mentioned the stewart project
[4:11:08] property bargaining is now
[4:11:10] under contract it was cold
[4:11:11] outside before we are looking
[4:11:13] at 50 foot contiguous buffer
[4:11:16] along the frontage that was
[4:11:18] another very important aspect
[4:11:24] of this along with different
[4:11:26] easements and so forth. This is
[4:11:28] showing the layout again not to
[4:11:30] go into a lot of detail, the
[4:11:31] affordable most affordable
[4:11:33] units are in the interior part
[4:11:35] of the site here in yellow, all
[4:11:38] the single-family attached we
[4:11:41] have single-family detached,
[4:11:41] throughout the site 46% open
[4:11:48] space which we feel is quite
[4:11:50] noted this from the master
[4:11:51] zoning plan which sherman has
[4:12:02] talked about. One of the
[4:12:04] environmental things just to
[4:12:05] mention is that the
[4:12:06] prioritization of the resources
[4:12:08] we had some discussion with
[4:12:10] over time we feel we are in a
[4:12:11] better spot now than we were
[4:12:13] before there is a 55 inch wide
[4:12:15] what you think is the county
[4:12:20] champions the white oak the
[4:12:21] applicant is doing significant
[4:12:23] strides to save it but however
[4:12:25] we are still concerned about
[4:12:27] how well this will be done in
[4:12:28] total because the applicant on
[4:12:30] the west side of the village
[4:12:32] side is not doing exactly what
[4:12:33] this applicant is doing what
[4:12:35] you do when you have a tree on
[4:12:37] the property line can do the
[4:12:39] best you can on your side. I
[4:12:41] just want to mention that as
[4:12:43] well this is included in a
[4:12:44] self-report vint hill
[4:12:46] improvement concept plan this
[4:12:48] is the current alignment of
[4:12:48] pioneer.
[4:12:50] This is in the back of the
[4:12:52] staff report there will be a
[4:12:53] roundabout plan here we feel
[4:12:55] the applicant is doing their
[4:12:57] share forth their impacts to
[4:12:59] the axis improvements along the
[4:13:00] frontage.
[4:13:01] These are from the design
[4:13:03] guidelines of single-family
[4:13:05] detached single-family
[4:13:07] attached. There is a modified
[4:13:08] townhouse detail which is
[4:13:10] allowing for reduction of 16
[4:13:11] feet in width we feel this
[4:13:13] provides the variety of houses
[4:13:15] that were looking for in this
[4:13:16] area there is also a berm
[4:13:18] utility easement it took a
[4:13:19] while to get to this point this
[4:13:22] is just showing different
[4:13:24] perspectives there is entrance
[4:13:31] features we try to look for
[4:13:33] continuity with the site and
[4:13:35] the other sites I cannot speak
[4:13:36] to all the other sites since
[4:13:38] this is the first one without
[4:13:40] disabilities going to set the
[4:13:41] trend for what happens down the
[4:13:43] stream with the other
[4:13:44] developments.
[4:13:45] This is another perspective
[4:13:47] here with the staff report we
[4:13:49] feel all the planning
[4:13:51] components are consistent
[4:13:52] environment want to point out
[4:13:55] that these are still permitting
[4:13:56] weaknesses that I need to
[4:13:58] mention because were telling
[4:14:00] all sides in our analysis feels
[4:14:02] the applicant has done a really
[4:14:04] commendable job with their
[4:14:07] impacts to these best ministry
[4:14:08] at white oak but we feel that
[4:14:10] we still are not sure how
[4:14:12] successful that would be in
[4:14:14] time with the other development
[4:14:16] to the west there are residual
[4:14:17] impacts to on-site wetlands
[4:14:19] extremes overall could feel the
[4:14:24] applicant has observed the lay
[4:14:26] of the land and resources with
[4:14:28] the schools, there is available
[4:14:35] hospital capacity staff has not
[4:14:37] vetted the additional analysis
[4:14:39] that the applicant is done for
[4:14:41] schools. Just to point out the
[4:14:43] combined applicants have done
[4:14:44] their separate analysis for
[4:14:46] this corridor and it vint hill
[4:14:48] for schools this is included in
[4:14:50] the back of my staff report.
[4:14:51] Sherman spent a lot of time
[4:14:53] talking about schools
[4:14:55] redistricting. My planning
[4:14:57] staff report does not get into
[4:14:57] that scope.
[4:14:59] We are going by what schools
[4:15:01] has provided us it goes back to
[4:15:04] MARCH 2025 redistricting and
[4:15:06] other things is another
[4:15:08] conversation to be had I know
[4:15:09] supervisor gordy we discussed
[4:15:11] that.
[4:15:13] We just have not done a lot of
[4:15:14] additional analysis with
[4:15:14] schools.
[4:15:15] We feel that there is a level
[4:15:23] of uncertainty based on
[4:15:24] assumptions that are made we
[4:15:26] feel with the monetary
[4:15:27] contribution that is provided
[4:15:28] the extra capacity the trends
[4:15:35] in producing yield from others
[4:15:39] developments will have on
[4:15:41] schools we feel it will be
[4:15:42] mitigated we can only speak to
[4:15:44] the analysis the schools have
[4:15:45] given us.
[4:15:47] Just want to mention that as
[4:15:48] well.
[4:15:49] Also there was quarter study
[4:15:51] which was kicked off last small
[4:15:53] area plan for the vint hill
[4:15:56] corridor that was last night of
[4:16:07] course the timing of this
[4:16:08] strathmore has been in the
[4:16:10] pipeline for a long time
[4:16:11] strathmore is before you
[4:16:14] tonight but the small area plan
[4:16:15] was officially kicked off last
[4:16:17] night by the planning office
[4:16:19] with these different products
[4:16:20] we now have more formal
[4:16:22] guidance and help we are going
[4:16:24] to assess the cumulative impact
[4:16:26] in this quarter. I also want to
[4:16:28] mention the process timing of
[4:16:29] the small area plan is in its
[4:16:31] early stages obviously those
[4:16:33] impacts are not known right now
[4:16:34] strathmore has done as much as
[4:16:36] it could have done given the
[4:16:38] timing and its evolution over
[4:16:39] time.
[4:16:40] We feel we are in a supportable
[4:16:43] spot with the application
[4:16:45] planning commission did
[4:16:47] ultimately recommend approval
[4:16:49] with proffers they did it in
[4:16:56] JANUARY there was additional
[4:16:58] consideration by the board of
[4:16:59] county supervisors that was
[4:17:01] made they've been reflected in
[4:17:05] the proffers we are permitting
[4:17:06] are provoked with the proffers
[4:17:08] dated OCTOBER 3 we feel the
[4:17:10] density is consistent it is a
[4:17:11] cohesive plan makes development
[4:17:13] we need rooftops if it feels
[4:17:15] different affordable housing
[4:17:23] needs.
[4:17:24] It's in line with various
[4:17:26] objectives of the strategic
[4:17:28] plan reduced transportation
[4:17:29] staff here we have also
[4:17:31] environment. Here of course the
[4:17:32] applicant and I am happy to
[4:17:34] answer any questions for you
[4:17:35] thank you very much.
[4:17:37] >> Chair Jefferson: anybody
[4:17:38] have any questions for staff?
[4:17:40] All right supervisor stewart.
[4:17:42] >> George Stewart: I have a
[4:18:05] question for transportation.
[4:18:07] By the look of the overall?
[4:18:09] It appears from the least we
[4:18:10] have four lanes with things
[4:18:12] down to two lanes open back up
[4:18:14] to four lanes and back down to
[4:18:15] two lanes. Once more open up
[4:18:17] the four lanes for very short
[4:18:19] period of time back down to two
[4:18:19] lanes.
[4:18:21] According to the traffic
[4:18:22] study there is going to be
[4:18:24] 23,000 more trips have you
[4:18:26] first of all coordinated with.
[4:18:28] [Listing names] County so they
[4:18:29] can handle that much traffic
[4:18:31] coming their way [Listing
[4:18:32] names] County so they can
[4:18:34] handle that much traffic coming
[4:18:36] their way, #1, and number two
[4:18:36] why not
[4:18:38] just make it four lanes
[4:18:40] all the way through to avoid
[4:18:41] bottlenecking it occurs to me
[4:18:43] you will get bottlenecking
[4:18:45] anyway once you enter.
[4:18:46] [Listing names].
[4:18:47] >> department of
[4:18:49] transportation. Supervisor
[4:18:50] stewart great?
[4:18:52] I will start with your first
[4:18:55] regarding coordination in terms
[4:18:56] of the traffic analysis we work
[4:19:01] with the applicant and v.The
[4:19:03] study area typically when we
[4:19:05] look at a rezoning like this or
[4:19:06] multiple in an area we look at
[4:19:08] a specific study area we
[4:19:09] typically don't go beyond the
[4:19:12] limits especially if it's in a
[4:19:13] different county unless it's
[4:19:15] adjacent to a neighboring
[4:19:15] county.
[4:19:17] N our comp plan we
[4:19:18] have vint hill's four lanes
[4:19:19] between rollins fourth road and
[4:19:31] route 28 west of rollins fourth
[4:19:33] road comes to length there are
[4:19:34] certain assumptions made to
[4:19:36] answer your question we do not
[4:19:37] coordinate with.
[4:19:37] [Listing names]
[4:19:39] County we focus
[4:19:41] within the study area at the
[4:19:42] intersections that play.
[4:19:43] >> can address your other
[4:19:46] question when it comes to the
[4:19:47] widening.
[4:19:48] [Listing names] Is our
[4:19:49] transportation case planner
[4:19:51] he's been heavily involved away
[4:19:51] the
[4:19:53] vint hill corridor is
[4:19:54] developed is essentially 2
[4:19:56] miles widening between.
[4:20:04] [Listing names] And cattle run
[4:20:06] when we look at the widening we
[4:20:07] look at impact electric and tio
[4:20:09] for different days look that
[4:20:11] developments individually also
[4:20:17] looked at development as a
[4:20:19] whole to include the seven that
[4:20:21] we are discussing. But that tia
[4:20:22] showed was impacts to several
[4:20:24] key intersections within the 2
[4:20:26] mile corridor since the focus
[4:20:28] of the lightning was within the
[4:20:29] 2 mile corridor.
[4:20:31] >> George Stewart: that doesn't
[4:20:33] exactly answer my question I
[4:20:35] will put more in a flat footed
[4:20:39] parts before collecting that
[4:20:41] bend in the road to the west
[4:20:42] that is more of a blind corner
[4:20:44] the point is this is a very
[4:20:46] dangerous rural road to have
[4:20:47] been fatalities and other
[4:20:49] accidents, is that part of the
[4:20:51] road not being widened because
[4:20:52] proffers did not want to be
[4:20:54] given for that specific area to
[4:21:12] make the whole thing for lanes
[4:21:13] all the way through.
[4:21:15] >> it was part of the oral
[4:21:17] discussion with one of the
[4:21:18] things we look at when we
[4:21:20] looked at the quarter
[4:21:22] improvement was the roadway
[4:21:23] improvement we want to look at
[4:21:24] what is feasible within the
[4:21:26] number of developments coming
[4:21:28] in and the improvements being
[4:21:29] proposed when it comes to
[4:21:31] safety that is something
[4:21:31] we
[4:21:33] looked at the applicant is
[4:21:34] relying as part of the cattle
[4:21:35] run case there relighting
[4:21:36] the
[4:21:38] curve in the road one of the
[4:21:39] things we work with the
[4:21:40] applicant on is the roundabout
[4:21:42] and allison asked alex when he
[4:21:44] returns from 2-4 lanes around
[4:21:46] about will serve as a traffic
[4:21:48] control but a safety measure as
[4:21:50] you transition from 2-4 lanes.
[4:21:51] >> George Stewart: no more
[4:21:52] questions.
[4:21:52] School and.
[4:21:54] >> Yesli Vega: come back.
[4:21:56] I have just a few questions I
[4:21:57] will ask for very brief
[4:21:59] responses so I don't run out of
[4:22:01] time and later manager if there
[4:22:03] is another opportunity for
[4:22:05] folks to expand they can do so.
[4:22:07] Based on discussions with my
[4:22:08] office on the 13th we were
[4:22:10] informed that the currently the
[4:22:12] only reason vint hill needs
[4:22:13] widening is because of the
[4:22:15] proposed projects on the table.
[4:22:19] Is that still the understanding
[4:22:20] .
[4:22:21] >> that is correct.
[4:22:23] >> Yesli Vega: my question is
[4:22:25] understanding that this project
[4:22:26] stands alone for scrutiny for
[4:22:28] the products plan to come to
[4:22:29] the area are related as they
[4:22:30] side.
[4:22:32] >> the intent is for them to
[4:22:36] come to a jd
[4:22:36] .
[4:22:38] >> Yesli Vega: have those
[4:22:39] circumstances changed.
[4:22:40] >>,where.
[4:22:42] >> Yesli Vega: does this mean
[4:22:43] these products are initiating
[4:22:45] the need for the road
[4:22:45] improvements.
[4:22:47] >> yes they are
[4:22:47] .
[4:22:48] >> Yesli Vega:
[4:22:48] if traffic
[4:22:50] volumes were unchanged from
[4:22:51] current levels with these
[4:22:53] improvements be necessary for
[4:22:54] public safety or traffic flow.
[4:22:56] >> for congestion purposes it
[4:22:58] would not be necessary.
[4:22:59] >> Yesli Vega: thank you does
[4:23:13] this now then mean that the
[4:23:15] current road is suitable for
[4:23:16] travel should nothing change.
[4:23:17] >> yes.
[4:23:19] >> Yesli Vega: I was also
[4:23:20] informed that there are no
[4:23:22] current safety concerns as the
[4:23:23] accident but have been
[4:23:25] occurring in this area are
[4:23:27] largely due to driver behavior
[4:23:28] rather than road conditions is
[4:23:29] this likert.
[4:23:31] >> that is a part of it there
[4:23:33] was a recent incident at owl's
[4:23:34] nest we believe it was related
[4:23:36] to behavior I have to confirm
[4:23:38] we did look into that x and.
[4:23:40] >> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM
[4:23:41] Chair those are the questions I
[4:23:42] have for now.
[4:23:44] >> Chair Jefferson: before I go
[4:23:45] to supervisor and group when
[4:23:47] you talk about driver behavior
[4:23:48] he took my speeding.
[4:23:50] >> speeding if it's not related
[4:23:52] to the design of the roadway
[4:23:54] not yielding to traffic
[4:23:55] speeding typically under the
[4:23:55] influence.
[4:23:57] >> Chair Jefferson: I just want
[4:23:59] to go back to that blind spot
[4:24:01] that curve. Haven't there been
[4:24:02] a lot of fatalities or anything
[4:24:04] related to that curve if people
[4:24:06] are speeding not paying
[4:24:08] attention going fast or on that
[4:24:08] curve.
[4:24:10] >> in a recent review after
[4:24:11] confirm there's been some
[4:24:13] incident what we call off road
[4:24:14] losing control that is typical
[4:24:16] in a roadway like this we can
[4:24:18] come back with the exact
[4:24:19] incident.
[4:24:20] >> Chair Jefferson: I guess my
[4:24:22] question driver behavior is
[4:24:23] dependent on the road and
[4:24:24] design
[4:24:25] because vint hill is a
[4:24:27] place absent people go fast
[4:24:28] because they feel they can
[4:24:29] correct.
[4:24:29] >> correct.
[4:24:31] >> Chair Jefferson: I have no
[4:24:32] more questions.
[4:24:34] >> Victor Angry: not for you in
[4:24:37] the seven projects all of these
[4:24:38] developments come together I
[4:24:40] don't know if I heard this I
[4:24:42] know we are just talk about one
[4:24:44] now interpersonal connections
[4:24:45] are we going to connect these
[4:24:46] neighborhoods I will ask for
[4:24:48] your one of them I guess we
[4:24:49] have six more to go I would
[4:24:52] really hope so that is kind of
[4:24:53] the best way to get around.
[4:24:55] >> Applicant: there was a great
[4:24:59] deal of attention for these
[4:25:01] interpersonal connection police
[4:25:03] department whenever the
[4:25:03] opportunity was
[4:25:03] available and
[4:25:04] was provided.
[4:25:06] >> Chair Jefferson:
[4:25:08] >> Kenny Boddye: scott if you
[4:25:22] can come back up.
[4:25:23] Thank you for the presentation
[4:25:25] thank you to the applicant
[4:25:27] taken to the transportation
[4:25:29] staff a couple of quick
[4:25:30] questions for me scott in your
[4:25:32] presentation you always do a
[4:25:33] really good job of establishing
[4:25:35] the context of the land use
[4:25:37] around both proposed and
[4:25:38] current if you can bring that
[4:25:39] back up quickly.
[4:25:41] I think it is your first or
[4:25:42] second slide I think your
[4:25:44] second slide I appreciate that
[4:25:46] code I think this is a really
[4:25:48] good job of highlighting where
[4:25:50] this is lot of folks who have
[4:25:51] given concern has tried to make
[4:25:53] it seem like there's some
[4:25:55] far-flung place in the rural
[4:25:56] area where there is an existing
[4:25:58] rpc community but not
[4:26:05] predicable parcels to the east.
[4:26:06] From your expertise as a
[4:26:07] planner to me given how much
[4:26:09] open space is being proposed
[4:26:19] here would this be an
[4:26:21] appropriate transition point
[4:26:22] from the very heavy
[4:26:22] or
[4:26:24] preestablished community as we
[4:26:25] go further out?
[4:26:26] >> Scott Meyer: we feel yes
[4:26:28] given the context it does
[4:26:30] provide for that transition.
[4:26:32] >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[4:26:33] that resent this is in the
[4:26:35] development area can you
[4:26:36] elaborate on that.
[4:26:38] >> Scott Meyer: correct we had
[4:26:39] air rural area the rural
[4:26:41] crescent we don't have that
[4:26:43] anymore there are areas where
[4:26:45] we are sensitive to density but
[4:26:47] being on the north side of vint
[4:26:48] hill road this is kind of like
[4:26:50] where srl was suburban
[4:26:52] residential lower density
[4:27:05] nothing is changed with where
[4:27:06] where the lower density
[4:27:08] suburban development could have
[4:27:10] been anticipated for english.
[4:27:12] >> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[4:27:14] that I think that's an
[4:27:15] important context to me is
[4:27:17] looking at the score door it
[4:27:18] felt like to seven section was
[4:27:20] where we really want to be a
[4:27:22] lot more sensitive to the
[4:27:23] densities that was the actual
[4:27:25] boundary line the rural
[4:27:26] crescent was down there that is
[4:27:28] why all that when we redid the
[4:27:30] comp plan was designated c rise
[4:27:32] versus suburban style density
[4:27:33] is that?
[4:27:34] >> Scott Meyer: left everything
[4:27:37] on the north side is more about
[4:27:37] suburban low-density.
[4:27:39] >> Kenny Boddye: that is all
[4:27:42] for you scott I think that was
[4:27:43] an important place making paolo
[4:27:44] back to you for second.
[4:27:46] To go back to transportation
[4:27:48] and the roadway considerations
[4:27:49] here I noticed some of this is
[4:27:51] sort of just a product of how
[4:27:53] this is being planned out how
[4:27:55] there is going to be six other
[4:28:04] applications brought the way
[4:28:05] let's talk about the traffic
[4:28:07] safety piece about this little
[4:28:09] bit where we have planned
[4:28:11] roundabout signalized
[4:28:12] intersection that were not
[4:28:12] there
[4:28:14] before more collectively
[4:28:16] around pedestrian and things
[4:28:18] like that can you talk about
[4:28:19] the glendora vision for that
[4:28:20] piece.
[4:28:21] >> when it comes to the vint
[4:28:23] hill corridor plan work with
[4:28:24] the applicant for the
[4:28:26] compliment someone arterial
[4:28:28] roadway it's intended to carry
[4:28:30] over 15,000 vehicles per day
[4:28:31] one of the things we work with
[4:28:33] the applicant on is modifying
[4:28:35] the typical sections included
[4:28:37] lower the design speed from a
[4:28:39] safety point of view that helps
[4:28:40] with the character of the
[4:28:42] roadway weekly chore as far as
[4:28:44] the development of self we have
[4:28:45] turn lanes you have your
[4:28:47] crashes mostly at intersection
[4:28:48] that is we have the most
[4:28:50] conflict points to make sure
[4:28:51] all entrances had adequate
[4:28:53] families to meet the standards
[4:28:55] that we have the two
[4:28:56] roundabouts that are proposed
[4:28:58] within the corridor plan one
[4:28:59] and three line pioneer as part
[4:29:01] of strathmore and at the other
[4:29:03] as part of al's nest with
[4:29:04] transition from four lanes to
[4:29:06] two lanes focus at the major
[4:29:07] intersections mullins forge
[4:29:09] road and vint hill to see a lot
[4:29:12] of congestion therefrom safety
[4:29:13] point of view we want to
[4:29:15] separate traffic so you have
[4:29:16] dedicated left and right turn
[4:29:18] lanes in addition to three
[4:29:19] lanes same thing when it comes
[4:29:21] to suddenly manner and vint
[4:29:23] hill you have adequate turn
[4:29:24] lanes and facilities there. The
[4:29:26] plan itself as CHAIRMAN Mission
[4:29:28] has a shared use path on both
[4:29:30] sides will will project will do
[4:29:32] one trail and once on the
[4:29:33] sidewalk on the other it is
[4:29:35] what makes this corridor plan a
[4:29:37] little unique address some of
[4:29:39] the safety and connectivity
[4:29:39] concerns.
[4:29:41] >> Kenny Boddye: left point
[4:29:42] MADAM Chair thank you for
[4:29:44] lending on that shared use path
[4:29:46] is the current condition of
[4:29:49] pedestrian connectivity on this
[4:29:50] part of vint hill road.
[4:29:51] >> there is none or minimal we
[4:29:53] have it any paved shoulders
[4:29:53] it's
[4:29:55] a ditch sections there isto
[4:29:55] walk.
[4:29:57] >> Kenny Boddye: or we would be
[4:30:00] going from dishes to shared use
[4:30:00] path's on both sides.
[4:30:02] >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate
[4:30:04] that thank you MADAM Chair
[4:30:04] throughout.
[4:30:06] >> Yesli Vega: paolo you are
[4:30:07] the men of the night.
[4:30:09] Sort of crew the tia shows the
[4:30:10] daily trips on this project
[4:30:12] will drive up a 2% increase
[4:30:13] right.
[4:30:14] >> that is a projection use
[4:30:16] when we do traffic analysis
[4:30:17] that's
[4:30:18] typical growth when you
[4:30:19] look at traffic study 's.
[4:30:22] >> Yesli Vega: according to the
[4:30:24] tia on this product any need
[4:30:25] for major road improvements.
[4:30:27] > yes frontage improvements
[4:30:31] typically
[4:30:32] .
[4:30:34] >> Yesli Vega: what type of
[4:30:34] improvements.
[4:30:37] >> frontage improvements mainly
[4:30:38] turn lanes accessed on its own
[4:30:40] when we look at development
[4:30:41] individually all it required
[4:30:42] was frontage
[4:30:44] improvements left
[4:30:45] and right turn lanes.
[4:30:47] >> Yesli Vega: can have scott,
[4:30:48] please thank you paolo.
[4:30:50] >> Yesli Vega: scott you
[4:30:53] mentioned staff had not had
[4:30:55] enough time to properly get the
[4:30:56] school analysis can you
[4:30:58] elaborate a little bit on that.
[4:30:59] > Scott Meyer: a couple of
[4:31:07] things. I'm glad you are asking
[4:31:09] we received our development mac
[4:31:11] statement from the schools
[4:31:13] that's attached misstep report
[4:31:15] the applicant at the same time
[4:31:18] has gone a collaborative vint
[4:31:19] hill corridor study on their
[4:31:21] assessment of schools that was
[4:31:22] sent to the schools the county
[4:31:26] schools we are reflecting that
[4:31:28] in the report but we are basing
[4:31:30] our analysis on what the
[4:31:32] schools are given us. We have
[4:31:35] not done we don't have the
[4:31:36] expertise to do an extra level
[4:31:39] of analysis.
[4:31:40] It is acknowledged and
[4:31:41] understood that the trends MAY
[4:31:43] be changing but we don't have
[4:31:46] the metrics behind what if the
[4:31:49] applicant is done.
[4:31:50] Sherman can
[4:31:51] probably answer that
[4:31:53] a lot better than I would be
[4:31:53] able to.
[4:31:55] >> Yesli Vega: I was just
[4:31:57] curious since you said you had
[4:31:59] outfitted the school analysis
[4:32:02] okay I brought this up earlier
[4:32:04] today in a different project it
[4:32:06] seems to be a reoccurring trend
[4:32:14] here one that we need to figure
[4:32:15] out and figure out rather
[4:32:16] quickly it also has to do with
[4:32:18] the required four minute travel
[4:32:20] time for basic life support
[4:32:22] this falls outside of that
[4:32:24] radius what are the plans maybe
[4:32:24] it MAY
[4:32:25] be supervisor gordy the
[4:32:27] presentation to mention the one
[4:32:28] that will service this entire
[4:32:29] area.
[4:32:30] [Unclear audio] Are you aware
[4:32:32] can you share any of that scott
[4:32:34] are you in a position to do so.
[4:32:36] >> Scott Meyer: I don't have
[4:32:37] specifics on that supervisor
[4:32:39] gordy if there is anything you
[4:32:40] want to say.
[4:32:43] >> Yesli Vega: I do have more
[4:32:44] things speed there is a
[4:32:46] proposed fire station site that
[4:32:49] would be offered as another one
[4:32:50] of the departments at sellers
[4:32:53] road now was last note the fire
[4:32:55] departments already working
[4:32:56] with the developer on and
[4:32:57] compositions about
[4:32:58] that site.
[4:33:03] >> Yesli Vega: is the county
[4:33:06] arborist here.
[4:33:07] I have a couple of questions
[4:33:14] for you sir.
[4:33:19] We heard a little bit about the
[4:33:20] white oak tree and at the
[4:33:21] clearing and all of that can
[4:33:23] talk a little bit about the
[4:33:24] concerns I did read a little
[4:33:27] bit about it misstep report but
[4:33:28] for the public awareness I like
[4:33:29] to hear it from you.
[4:33:35] >> our requirements talks about
[4:33:37] tree preservation is basically
[4:33:38] what it states is every inch
[4:33:41] diameter should be out 1 foot
[4:33:46] radius that would be with the
[4:33:48] 54 inch tree it should go out a
[4:33:49] minimum of 54 feet to no
[4:33:55] disturbance no compaction no
[4:33:57] impact to the tree roots none
[4:33:59] whatsoever. The concern that we
[4:34:01] have is the adjacent
[4:34:05] development is not doing a
[4:34:07] mirror image. My industry
[4:34:08] actually calls for more
[4:34:13] protection as 1.5 feet but rdc
[4:34:15] only requires 1 foot radius per
[4:34:16] inch. They are
[4:34:17] offering to do a
[4:34:18] chemical treatment with.
[4:34:20] [Listing names] Which is a
[4:34:21] growth regulator growth
[4:34:24] regulator physically slows the
[4:34:26] tree down so it can handle
[4:34:27] certain impacts specifically
[4:34:32] with the root compaction and
[4:34:33] root damage of some kind.
[4:34:35] >> Yesli Vega: okay. Thank you
[4:34:37] for that explanation scott
[4:34:39] think it is going to be you I'm
[4:34:40] sorry sir I did not catch her
[4:34:46] name.
[4:34:52] Scott can you show me I don't
[4:34:54] know if you have it in the
[4:34:55] presentation I know there are
[4:34:57] some concerns about impacted
[4:34:58] wetlands in different parts
[4:34:59] can
[4:35:00] you talk to me a little bit
[4:35:01] about that.
[4:35:04] >> Scott Meyer: this I guess it
[4:35:08] is probably unclear there is a
[4:35:11] it is up in this area here.
[4:35:14] I should probably go to the
[4:35:23] excuse me.
[4:35:25] Where this road is right here
[4:35:29] it is crossing.
[4:35:31] This area as well. We always
[4:35:33] tried to look for a connected
[4:35:39] contiguous network of areas but
[4:35:41] we have that mostly. Again when
[4:35:43] this came in didn't have the
[4:35:48] scope one of the issues was
[4:35:49] where is this road going to
[4:35:51] when you see how it fits into
[4:35:54] the surrounding development it
[4:35:56] does link to adjacent
[4:35:58] development this is been around
[4:36:00] for a while we didn't have the
[4:36:01] benefit of the aerial of the
[4:36:03] context of how everything
[4:36:06] blinks together.
[4:36:08] We feel the applicant could
[4:36:09] have changed the layout with
[4:36:11] this because this might be more
[4:36:12] of a question for will.
[4:36:13] We talked about the
[4:36:17] prioritization of the resources
[4:36:19] I would rather have will
[4:36:19] clarify that.
[4:36:23] >> of course with wetlands
[4:36:24] there is a process to disturb
[4:36:31] wetlands it is not through the
[4:36:32] counties it is through the
[4:36:34] state and federal permitting.
[4:36:36] When we see wetlands they serve
[4:36:38] a purpose in the natural
[4:36:39] environment would try to
[4:36:41] minimize or reduce any kind of
[4:36:47] impact whatsoever.
[4:36:48] When we see a wetland is going
[4:36:49] to
[4:36:50] be disturbed with roads or
[4:36:52] with some kind of development
[4:36:54] we always discouraged that in
[4:36:56] some fashion and try to have a
[4:36:57] different layout proposed for.
[4:36:59] >> Yesli Vega: was done here.
[4:37:01] >> they adjusted it thought
[4:37:02] maybe they could do more but
[4:37:04] they did adjust the did listen
[4:37:05] to our comments.
[4:37:05] >> Yesli
[4:37:07] Vega: okay thank you.
[4:37:09] That's all have MADAM Chair
[4:37:10] school at all).
[4:37:12] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[4:37:13] paolo please I just have a
[4:37:15] quick question about the
[4:37:17] roundabout.
[4:37:19] And going back to something
[4:37:20] supervisor stewart was asking
[4:37:23] for it on the roundabouts I
[4:37:23] know it is his traffic is it
[4:37:25] also there is a couple in my
[4:37:25] district.
[4:37:32] In this instance are we on a
[4:37:33] trend of using roundabouts to
[4:37:35] ease not only is the traffic
[4:37:38] but also there's been
[4:37:40] fatalities that prevent that a
[4:37:41] little bit more as well.
[4:37:43] >> Scott Meyer: does
[4:37:45] roundabouts typically causes
[4:37:49] you to slow down there is a
[4:37:51] small pinch point it forces you
[4:37:53] to slow down as you approach
[4:37:55] the intersection there is a
[4:37:59] trend with roundabouts dude
[4:38:01] need right away in a situation
[4:38:02] where it is part of a
[4:38:04] development it does make it
[4:38:05] easier to implement a
[4:38:07] roundabout as implement is
[4:38:09] being provided as part of the
[4:38:10] improvement.
[4:38:12] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: is
[4:38:13] more cost-effective.
[4:38:15] >> long-term has signal prices
[4:38:17] are going up as well it is a
[4:38:18] knowledge of how much right
[4:38:20] away and how much room is
[4:38:22] available to complete the
[4:38:23] improvement.
[4:38:24] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[4:38:26] last question as we progress
[4:38:28] with the other projects should
[4:38:29] we expect more.
[4:38:31] >> at this time only to his
[4:38:32] being proposed the tool
[4:38:33] roundabout is part of the
[4:38:35] entire: the jda would implement
[4:38:37] the roundabout as part of the
[4:38:39] one thing but the way the
[4:38:40] properties are set up it is
[4:38:42] possible others can occur.
[4:38:43] The possibility in the proper
[4:38:44] burden.
[4:38:45] > George Stewart:
[4:38:51] this is for scott.
[4:38:52] When your mention of this in my
[4:38:57] area plan from last night you
[4:38:59] said that certain impacts are
[4:39:00] not known yet and combining
[4:39:03] that with your lack of
[4:39:06] information about the impact
[4:39:15] from schools how can you check
[4:39:16] this out to say this is
[4:39:18] something that should be going
[4:39:18] forward?
[4:39:20] >> Scott Meyer: our director
[4:39:21] tonya washington can address
[4:39:24] that.
[4:39:25] >> good evening tonya
[4:39:27] washington rector of the
[4:39:30] planning office supervisor
[4:39:32] stewart when the board
[4:39:37] initiated the vint hill court
[4:39:38] or small area plan included
[4:39:40] note to the board of these
[4:39:42] applications had already been
[4:39:44] submitted and already under
[4:39:46] county review that he will
[4:39:47] likely be most certainly be
[4:39:48] coming to the board fraction
[4:39:50] prior to the small area plan
[4:39:54] being completed small area plan
[4:39:56] will be focusing on a larger
[4:39:57] area not just the area covered
[4:40:01] by these applications given
[4:40:03] that it will take about two
[4:40:06] years to complete the small
[4:40:07] area plan we could not hold out
[4:40:09] these rezoning applications
[4:40:11] which are on it when your clock
[4:40:12] before we could complete the
[4:40:15] small area plan the focus is to
[4:40:22] continue to staff review
[4:40:23] working with supervisor gordy
[4:40:25] on these applications to
[4:40:34] ultimately get a product
[4:40:35] depending upon what happens
[4:40:37] with the other applications the
[4:40:38] board can make a decision on
[4:40:40] with the garlic to the small
[4:40:42] area plan itself whatever
[4:40:43] decisions the board ultimately
[4:40:45] makes almost applications will
[4:40:47] get folded into the larger
[4:40:48] analysis for this area. For the
[4:40:50] small area plan these
[4:40:51] applications again were
[4:40:53] submitted quite some time
[4:40:55] before the small area plan was
[4:40:56] initiated because they are
[4:40:58] rezoning applications and for
[4:41:00] the state code there is a time
[4:41:01] clock on them we needed to
[4:41:03] continue to move forward this
[4:41:12] is somewhat unique situation.
[4:41:13] Just to the extent we have a
[4:41:15] small area plan started later
[4:41:17] we did have to move forward
[4:41:18] with the review of these
[4:41:19] applications for.
[4:41:21] >> George Stewart: I am kind of
[4:41:21] new.
[4:41:23] How much time is left on the
[4:41:24] clock.
[4:41:25] >> Tanya Washington: or
[4:41:26] strathmore what is the
[4:41:26] timeframe?
[4:41:28] For strathmore when your clock
[4:41:42] has already passed.
[4:41:43] [Unclear audio] It was
[4:41:44] submitted APRIL 2023.
[4:41:46] >> George Stewart: got you
[4:41:47] taking more time for smart
[4:41:48] community
[4:41:49] input will still have
[4:41:50] is the past.
[4:41:52] >> Tanya Washington: I will say
[4:41:55] for this rezoning application
[4:41:56] as well as further land-use
[4:41:58] applications going through the
[4:41:59] entitlement process the
[4:42:01] planning office has guidelines
[4:42:06] that strongly encourage
[4:42:08] applicants to do community
[4:42:09] engagement prior to coming to
[4:42:11] public hearings prior to the
[4:42:13] planning commission public
[4:42:15] hearings. This project did go
[4:42:16] through community engagement
[4:42:18] I'm sure MR. Patrick can speak
[4:42:26] to that we do encourage that so
[4:42:27] the community has an
[4:42:29] opportunity for the product is
[4:42:30] still going through the county
[4:42:30] review
[4:42:32] to be able to provide
[4:42:34] their feedback and applicant
[4:42:36] have the opportunity to make
[4:42:38] adjustments to those
[4:42:39] applications prior to starting
[4:42:40] the formal public review
[4:42:41] process.
[4:42:42] >> George Stewart: thank you.
[4:42:44] >> Chair Jefferson: before I
[4:42:46] want to supervisor gordy I want
[4:42:52] to invite the applicant to come
[4:42:54] back up if you can answer
[4:42:56] questions about your community
[4:42:58] engagement will be up for the
[4:43:00] committee has multiple points
[4:43:02] obviously the applicants do
[4:43:03] their community town halls
[4:43:05] clearly plan commission meeting
[4:43:07] for approval given but if you
[4:43:08] can give us a bit more
[4:43:09] information about that.
[4:43:11] Turn on the microphone.
[4:43:13] >> Applicant: thank you for
[4:43:14] asking the question. We had
[4:43:16] three community engagement
[4:43:17] efforts on this property we did
[4:43:19] one that was all mine which was
[4:43:21] reasonably well attended we
[4:43:22] also had two other open house
[4:43:25] type community engagement
[4:43:27] sessions we notified within 1
[4:43:28] mile of this property we had
[4:43:30] sent out 4000 notices two
[4:43:31] different property owners.
[4:43:33] There was a great deal of very
[4:43:35] expensive notice to the
[4:43:37] community and opportunities to
[4:43:39] participate this is in addition
[4:43:40] to the notices because he sends
[4:43:42] out when an application is
[4:43:44] first filed then for the
[4:43:45] planning commission public
[4:43:47] hearings and also for the
[4:43:50] meeting this evening.
[4:43:51] >> Chair Jefferson: just a note
[4:43:53] after we go through the
[4:43:54] questions for the applicant and
[4:43:56] for the county staff will open
[4:43:59] the public hearings that is
[4:44:01] another time to hear from
[4:44:02] people. That's all I have I
[4:44:04] will go to supervisor gordy
[4:44:06] speak I will note onto that
[4:44:12] this application we tapped the
[4:44:13] brakes on it many times much to
[4:44:15] the angst I would say of the
[4:44:20] applicant because I want to get
[4:44:22] a holistic plan done they were
[4:44:26] patient and actually
[4:44:27] contributed I would say
[4:44:28] .
[4:44:34] [Listing names] Did tremendous
[4:44:36] amount of work in studying and
[4:44:38] analyzing what was going on
[4:44:40] with the schools we have three
[4:44:45] elementary schools that are
[4:44:47] closer to this development than
[4:44:49] the one that they are zoned to.
[4:44:50] All under capacity.
[4:44:50] N one of
[4:44:52] the schools had to cancel
[4:44:53] programs because of the lack of
[4:45:04] enrollment.
[4:45:06] Within their schools t claims
[4:45:08] would cost their drama program
[4:45:09] which they were noted for
[4:45:11] because they don't have enough
[4:45:12] students to fund the programs
[4:45:14] we already seen the community
[4:45:16] in this area aging our schools
[4:45:17] are losing enrollment.
[4:45:19] We are seeing yet we know that
[4:45:21] there is capacity as the school
[4:45:23] system has continued I've had
[4:45:24] from day one I've had meetings
[4:45:29] with superintendent Mcdade with
[4:45:30] cheryl latif with my own school
[4:45:32] board member and other school
[4:45:34] board members to talk about how
[4:45:35] the way we analyze schools
[4:45:37] during a planning process in my
[4:45:39] view has been broken.
[4:45:41] When we take these developments
[4:45:57] in isolation you can have one
[4:45:59] development that you take it
[4:46:01] one time they will save this
[4:46:03] development will put the
[4:46:05] schools over capacity then of
[4:46:06] four months later we can have
[4:46:08] another development impacting
[4:46:10] the same exact schools and they
[4:46:11] can say there is no impact.
[4:46:13] Because we don't take a
[4:46:14] holistic look at what's
[4:46:16] happening in the environment
[4:46:17] they've agreed to take that
[4:46:19] holistic look and say it is not
[4:46:21] just about what my development
[4:46:23] is doing but it is about what
[4:46:25] my department is doing along
[4:46:27] with everything else they don't
[4:46:28] have to do this.
[4:46:30] They did not have to do this at
[4:46:32] all. They willingly did it at
[4:46:33] my request so we could take a
[4:46:35] better approach to development
[4:46:37] and understanding and
[4:46:39] mitigating the impact of these
[4:46:41] developments potentially would
[4:46:43] have on our community. Then on
[4:46:44] transportation as well.
[4:46:46] I've asked them to maintain
[4:46:47] moral character.
[4:46:48] Give us a design along vint
[4:46:50] hill that is seamless it is
[4:46:52] every development of the same
[4:46:53] design putting the traffic
[4:46:55] circles it maintains several
[4:46:57] character does not bring up the
[4:46:58] flashing lights he doesn't have
[4:47:01] all those things it helps us to
[4:47:02] maintain the rural character
[4:47:04] along different recorder pro as
[4:47:06] we've gone through this process
[4:47:08] to understanding the impact on
[4:47:10] the schools and the impact on
[4:47:12] the world was and how this will
[4:47:14] work together who tried to look
[4:47:15] at this from a bigger picture
[4:47:17] more contextual approach rather
[4:47:19] than just taking each and every
[4:47:21] case in isolation because as I
[4:47:23] said earlier the whole is
[4:47:24] greater than the sum of the
[4:47:25] parts.
[4:47:26] That is something to see happen
[4:47:28] over and over again throughout
[4:47:31] the county but never changed
[4:47:32] our practices to get better at
[4:47:34] it. To better mitigate against
[4:47:36] separate I appreciate all the
[4:47:37] questions my colleagues scared
[4:47:39] I will save the one accident
[4:47:41] they could tell you that we had
[4:47:52] at owl nest that was caused
[4:47:54] because the view was blocked by
[4:47:56] construction equipment
[4:47:58] replacement waterlines for the
[4:47:59] city of manassas. They had at
[4:48:01] the corner blocked and the
[4:48:03] driver literally cannot see the
[4:48:05] truck that was coming up vint
[4:48:07] hill road the vehicles the
[4:48:09] construction vehicles blinded
[4:48:10] the intersection that is what
[4:48:11] caused that.
[4:48:13] Other than that what this will
[4:48:15] do right now the speed limit
[4:48:16] elders 50 mph I can tell you
[4:48:17] nine times out of 10 I'm going
[4:48:19] 45 or slower. Because people
[4:48:21] are just driving slower out
[4:48:21] there.
[4:48:23] Nonetheless we are looking at
[4:48:25] trying to make this a world a
[4:48:26] safer and addressing the
[4:48:33] impacts of the potential
[4:48:34] developments in the area.
[4:48:36] That's all I have for now MADAM
[4:48:37] Chair school and don't have
[4:48:39] anyone else in the queue what
[4:48:41] I'm going to do thank you so
[4:48:42] very much I am going to if we
[4:48:43] can get the sheets I am going
[4:48:45] to open the public hearing for
[4:48:47] agenda item 13 a I'm waiting to
[4:48:54] get the sheets.
[4:48:55] I do have you can go to the
[4:48:57] back I do have throughout the
[4:48:58] sign-up we will go through the
[4:49:00] walls with you guys you have
[4:49:02] three minutes to speak. Unless
[4:49:04] you are an approved 501(C)(3)
[4:49:06] Or something recognized by the
[4:49:08] board when you go to the back
[4:49:13] please state your name and
[4:49:14] where to reside which
[4:49:16] magisterial district you reside
[4:49:18] you will go over there to the
[4:49:23] microphone with the pink
[4:49:24] microphone and make sure that
[4:49:26] you have it close to you so we
[4:49:28] can hear you. That is a common
[4:49:34] concern that I have.
[4:49:35] No other people are signing up
[4:49:36] we will
[4:49:37] get to them I will start
[4:49:38] with.
[4:49:39] [Listing names]
[4:50:16] >> you start screwing are you
[4:50:17] ready to begin.
[4:50:20] >> I'm trying to compose my
[4:50:21] notes please give me a minute.
[4:50:25] >> Chair Jefferson: if you need
[4:50:26] additional time I can call the
[4:50:28] next speakers.
[4:50:29] >> please.
[4:50:31] >> Chair Jefferson: we will get
[4:50:36] the sheets.
[4:50:42] [Listing names] Amy crosby
[4:50:42] .
[4:50:43] [Listing names] If you can go
[4:50:45] to the back again state your
[4:50:46] name where you generally
[4:50:48] reside.
[4:50:50] We needed for the public
[4:50:57] record.
[4:50:59] Good evening is my first time
[4:51:00] attending my name is amy crosby
[4:51:01] 11.
[4:51:05] [Listing names] My son attends
[4:51:07] t claim would it is great
[4:51:09] congratulations stuart as I
[4:51:10] read some of your stuff today
[4:51:12] to prepare myself MR. Gordy
[4:51:14] would be my district as follows
[4:51:16] being in brentsville. I've been
[4:51:18] a resident almost 5 years I've
[4:51:22] done a lot of planning
[4:51:24] commission meetings but not in
[4:51:26] the state my ex-husband is a
[4:51:27] former military very familiar
[4:51:29] with a lot of the things that
[4:51:33] happen in indiana. You guys
[4:51:35] don't mind I will read off the
[4:51:37] notes I've been planning I only
[4:51:38] get three minutes the weight
[4:51:40] kind of put some things out
[4:51:41] there if that's okay.
[4:51:43] First of all it is really good
[4:51:44] to know there are seven
[4:51:46] different things because I
[4:51:48] don't think I realized that in
[4:51:49] my head. For the utilities how
[4:51:51] will this endowment add to the
[4:51:54] newly overloaded grid in
[4:51:57] conjunction with all the data
[4:51:59] centers that are coming along?
[4:51:59] Secondly the
[4:52:01] schools I already
[4:52:03] own this question it was what
[4:52:04] elementary school to his feet
[4:52:07] into t claim would I sort.
[4:52:08] [Listing names] Would go into t
[4:52:09] claim would when gentleman said
[4:52:12] we are under capacity in our
[4:52:13] schools I didn't know that I
[4:52:14] have 1/5 grader and letter to
[4:52:16] clay would we did lose the
[4:52:17] drama program I did not know it
[4:52:19] was because it was under there
[4:52:31] was under enrollment second
[4:52:33] thing if the timeline can't do
[4:52:35] notes on your timeline for the
[4:52:36] rezoning in a planning
[4:52:38] commission when I change that
[4:52:39] ordinance as you noted it was
[4:52:41] two years already in the making
[4:52:43] but couldn't go ahead and
[4:52:45] accommodate these different
[4:52:49] things I felt there was counter
[4:52:51] intuitive the roads. Vint hill
[4:52:53] road before you get there
[4:52:54] mullins ford it's a nightmare
[4:52:56] it's very sharp curves it is
[4:52:58] tulane's MR. Gordy who said he
[4:53:00] go under 50 in that area I can
[4:53:02] promise you at night people are
[4:53:04] going over 60 miles an hour in
[4:53:06] that area because it is so dark
[4:53:08] there's no streetlights I also
[4:53:09] was thinking with her ever be
[4:53:11] any eminent domain to connect
[4:53:13] to either glenn kirk or rollins
[4:53:15] sport a different way because
[4:53:17] of fraud run over which my
[4:53:18] house except to plug and
[4:53:20] pervert on solitary efforts the
[4:53:22] connection if you look at play
[4:53:24] more it's an award-winning
[4:53:25] subdivision I've only been
[4:53:27] there for years you can connect
[4:53:29] at several different places you
[4:53:30] can connect at vint hill you
[4:53:32] can connect the linden hall
[4:53:34] those connections make other
[4:53:36] connections to glenn kirk to
[4:53:37] rollins sport that gives a lot
[4:53:39] of other ways to go around
[4:53:41] anyways just thinking of that.
[4:53:43] I was wondering about eminent
[4:53:45] domain you have to think about.
[4:53:46] [Listing names] How many homes
[4:53:48] are expected microphone and
[4:53:53] said that teaching staff the
[4:53:54] shortage equals more teachers
[4:53:57] how do you plan to accommodate
[4:53:58] staffing for those teachers
[4:54:00] that might be why the
[4:54:01] elementary schools are under
[4:54:03] filled is because there MAY not
[4:54:04] be seven effort for that which
[4:54:04] I
[4:54:07] did see some rezoning which I
[4:54:08] thought was good at last one
[4:54:10] was utility what is the current
[4:54:11] load capacity.
[4:54:13] >> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry I
[4:54:15] know you have a lot but frankly
[4:54:16] next speaker please.
[4:54:21] >> I'm angela klein I'm from
[4:54:22] brentsville as well as seen
[4:54:24] most of the congratulations
[4:54:25] supervisor stuart on being part
[4:54:35] of the board I'm here asking to
[4:54:36] deny order for this draft
[4:54:38] rezoning application
[4:54:39] development in the rural areas
[4:54:42] will require substantially more
[4:54:44] for structure improvements
[4:54:45] including but not limited to
[4:54:47] the transportation as was
[4:54:49] alluded to on vint hill road
[4:54:50] another connecting roads and
[4:54:52] the proffers offered them I
[4:54:54] reviewed the applicant or
[4:54:56] inadequate to confidential sure
[4:54:57] needs understand a lot of
[4:54:58] planning has gone to this I
[4:55:00] just don't think it equates to
[4:55:04] what we see on a daily basis.
[4:55:06] Their meeting last night the
[4:55:08] others refer to the peremptory
[4:55:09] small area plan was clearly
[4:55:11] attended I think the committee
[4:55:13] should out for that it was well
[4:55:15] received I think it offers the
[4:55:17] county of the applicant to plan
[4:55:18] thoughtfully and intentionally
[4:55:20] by taking a holistic approach
[4:55:22] to the entire nvrc corridor
[4:55:23] when we think of q of the
[4:55:25] infrastructure then needs and
[4:55:27] the fragile watersheds and
[4:55:28] natural resources for
[4:55:30] conservation by approving
[4:55:32] strathmore application
[4:55:34] residents will save the county
[4:55:36] and the supervisor approving a
[4:55:38] developer-based vision for the
[4:55:40] vint hill corridor and wonder
[4:55:42] why we had been had a kickoff
[4:55:44] meeting for the vint hill
[4:55:45] quarter meeting this area and
[4:55:47] what the applicants are
[4:55:49] strathmore applicant than
[4:55:51] others along the vint hill
[4:55:52] quarter are asking for rezoning
[4:55:54] is a big part of the event till
[4:55:56] vint hill corridor small area
[4:55:57] plan I don't see how that can
[4:56:05] be part of the equation as well
[4:56:06] vint hill thought most about
[4:56:08] the roads vint hill is
[4:56:10] currently a two-lane road we
[4:56:12] see a lot of speeders just as
[4:56:13] the neighbor alluded to in
[4:56:15] there I live on salish drive
[4:56:19] across from owls nest we
[4:56:20] mentioned that road was going
[4:56:22] to get relined in roundabout
[4:56:24] would be put there we got the
[4:56:26] police on a nightly basis
[4:56:27] because people like to use vint
[4:56:29] hill as a drag race we are in
[4:56:31] favor of the roundabout but
[4:56:32] traffic is expected to increase
[4:56:34] to approximately 22,000 trips
[4:56:36] along vint hill road which
[4:56:38] currently sees about 11,000
[4:56:40] daily trips I'm using just the
[4:56:42] applicant's estimate of 9.583
[4:56:43] daily trips. It's important for
[4:56:45] you to understand as residents
[4:56:47] of that road it takes about
[4:56:48] 15-20 minutes every morning for
[4:56:50] us to get onto vint hill road
[4:56:51] because of the traffic and
[4:56:53] another 20-30 minutes for us to
[4:56:57] go from rollins poured onto
[4:56:58] linton hall if you want to go
[4:57:00] to 66 just in the waiting times
[4:57:02] given the current density. I'd
[4:57:04] really like to see a lot more
[4:57:06] attention to vint hill road
[4:57:07] understanding right now going
[4:57:09] from four lanes counted
[4:57:10] tulane's willie is called a
[4:57:12] bottleneck that area given who
[4:57:18] is already out there and what
[4:57:20] we are going to eventually see
[4:57:22] growth no matter if it is this
[4:57:23] application or others thank
[4:57:24] you.
[4:57:25] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[4:57:26] next speaker please.
[4:57:31] >> good evening everyone my
[4:57:32] name is.
[4:57:35] [Listing names] And from that
[4:57:36] ketchup and part of the
[4:57:38] gainesville district mutual
[4:57:40] encouragement newly elected
[4:57:42] supervisor possibly overwhelmed
[4:57:43] supervisor to vote in favor of
[4:57:45] the strathmore project and
[4:57:51] supervisor gordy district 1st
[4:57:53] formal supervisor gordy
[4:57:55] supports this project as the
[4:57:57] elected representative for
[4:57:59] their principal district no one
[4:58:00] knows the interest and the
[4:58:02] needs of the district better
[4:58:07] than supervisor gordy for the
[4:58:09] more black petition many of the
[4:58:11] democrats and the board will be
[4:58:13] crossing the political islands
[4:58:15] according supervisor gordy's
[4:58:16] efforts to improve his district
[4:58:18] with this development project
[4:58:20] this is a classic opportunity
[4:58:22] for the board to provide good
[4:58:25] bipartisan government about the
[4:58:38] beach and a packet think the
[4:58:40] proper is also eligible to sell
[4:58:43] the staff support additionally
[4:58:44] it's important not to overlook
[4:58:46] the interest of the current
[4:58:48] landowners many in our county
[4:58:50] uncertain as to help they would
[4:58:52] support their children's higher
[4:58:54] education or have a secure
[4:58:55] retirement when the top suites
[4:58:57] constituents can achieve those
[4:58:58] goals by exercising the private
[4:59:00] property rights to sell the
[4:59:02] properties to developers clinic
[4:59:03] supervisors for to get the
[4:59:05] project devoted not those
[4:59:06] constituents that private
[4:59:08] property rights in the night
[4:59:10] his constituents the ability to
[4:59:12] accomplish is very personal and
[4:59:14] important life goals.
[4:59:15] Sometimes opposing the project
[4:59:17] is the right thing to do and be
[4:59:20] very skeptical of permitting a
[4:59:22] plastics factory which are
[4:59:24] industries known to chemicals
[4:59:25] to waterways but this product
[4:59:27] like the majority does not pose
[4:59:29] significant harm to our
[4:59:31] community although there will
[4:59:32] be people with small change in
[4:59:34] MISS How things once were along
[4:59:36] for the past cannot come at the
[4:59:38] expense of our future we also
[4:59:39] need to understand that
[4:59:41] perfection is something that is
[4:59:43] worth pursuing but is not a
[4:59:45] standard that we hold because
[4:59:46] if we do we won't be voting on
[4:59:48] any project ever because
[4:59:49] nothing is ever going to be
[4:59:51] perfect when it comes to us.
[4:59:53] Supervisor stuart is a
[4:59:54] constituent navigated vote if
[4:59:56] you you have my support in
[4:59:58] voting in favor of this project
[4:59:59] thank you all for your time and
[5:00:01] service to our community for
[5:00:03] elected officials and the staff
[5:00:05] we all deal with a lot of
[5:00:06] difficult people and certainly
[5:00:08] appreciated thank you all so
[5:00:08] much.
[5:00:10] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:00:12] and ms Mcvary ready to speak.
[5:00:13] >> I was here in APRIL of the
[5:00:15] planning commission for the
[5:00:17] first planning commission
[5:00:18] hearing for I came back for
[5:00:20] negative referral they brought
[5:00:22] nothing new to the table the
[5:00:23] applicant I recommend denial
[5:00:25] because they brought nothing
[5:00:27] forth after 90 days to increase
[5:00:29] transportation other than a
[5:00:31] traffic circle at the point of
[5:00:33] pioneer drive they have not
[5:00:34] whether it is 15,000 per unit
[5:00:36] the road has been putting first
[5:00:38] they made no contribution to
[5:00:40] read and think of the road
[5:00:41] filled of elements.
[5:00:43] MR. Patrick, once again talking
[5:00:45] to apollo in transportation the
[5:00:47] road needs to be put in before
[5:00:48] the infrastructure I saw this
[5:00:50] happen 45 years ago and brooke
[5:00:52] senator hazel did not build the
[5:00:53] parkway it cost me $2 million
[5:00:55] of taxpayer money 20 years
[5:00:57] later to do it the road vint
[5:00:58] hill cannot go from four lanes
[5:01:00] to two lanes and schaefer
[5:01:01] factor four lanes from cattle
[5:01:03] run to simply drive two lanes
[5:01:10] down it was supposed to be from
[5:01:10] .
[5:01:11] [Listing names] [Unclear audio]
[5:01:13] as you go from four lanes from
[5:01:15] reed street [Listing names]
[5:01:17] [Unclear audio] As you go from
[5:01:19] four lanes from reed st., tampa
[5:01:21] mile it goes back to two lanes
[5:01:22] then it becomes four lanes from
[5:01:24] the side of tranmere at the
[5:01:25] traffic circle all the way down
[5:01:32] to silas which is only almost
[5:01:34] 9/10 of a mile. Then stanley
[5:01:42] once said michael joe biden
[5:01:44] vint hill from owls nest down
[5:01:46] to rollins we will widen the
[5:01:48] curve. The canticle 4 lanes
[5:01:51] counted tulane's counterpoints
[5:01:52] counted tulane and have nothing
[5:01:59] but bottleneck grid brookville
[5:02:01] 775 is not enough to put 15,000
[5:02:03] cars a day on a
[5:02:04] two-lane/four-lane road and
[5:02:06] congested with traffic circles
[5:02:08] so there's no floor traffic
[5:02:10] movement there is no flow of
[5:02:11] traffic it will become pure
[5:02:12] gridlock and go to hell her on
[5:02:14] owls nest has had one fidelity
[5:02:16] I've been there 22 years event
[5:02:20] with one fidelity they had two
[5:02:22] motorcycle accidents in last
[5:02:24] year two car accidents with a
[5:02:26] flipped over the hill I might
[5:02:33] cars address they are spitting
[5:02:35] on owls nest right when I come
[5:02:37] out of my driveway there's been
[5:02:39] one fidelity. Two major
[5:02:40] motorcycle injuries and two
[5:02:42] cars that you got the
[5:02:43] neighbor's fence.
[5:02:44] The three people that were
[5:02:46] injured were my neighbors.
[5:02:47] Very prominent old-school
[5:02:49] family golf family that is been
[5:02:51] in the community for 70 years
[5:02:53] and one son is so injured he
[5:02:55] cannot work is on worker's
[5:02:56] compensation he is to get
[5:02:57] surgery he will have to have
[5:02:58] litigation
[5:02:58] .
[5:03:01] >> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry
[5:03:02] your times up can you say your
[5:03:04] name and the magisterial
[5:03:06] district where you are for the
[5:03:09] record
[5:03:09] .
[5:03:10] >> my name is paul short I
[5:03:13] limit brentsville magisterial
[5:03:14] district 42490 owls nest road
[5:03:20] can I have a additional
[5:03:21] minutes.
[5:03:23] >> Chair Jefferson: what I will
[5:03:25] do next is go to promote public
[5:03:27] comment on that I was getting
[5:03:27] additional
[5:03:29] questions supervisor
[5:03:31] bailey I will toss to for the
[5:03:32] public hearing.
[5:03:34] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[5:03:35] have three people are we ready
[5:03:35] for
[5:03:37] our guests.
[5:03:40] [Unclear audio]
[5:03:50] >> good evening chair jefferson
[5:03:55] and the board of supervisors
[5:03:56] might name is jessica girl I'm
[5:03:58] in the gainesville district I
[5:04:00] would like five minutes with
[5:04:02] the coalition to protect prince
[5:04:07] william county on this one.
[5:04:09] Stevie I'm sorry you have three
[5:04:15] minutes.
[5:04:17] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[5:04:18] am sorry you have three
[5:04:19] minutes.
[5:04:21] >> Chair Jefferson: are you a
[5:04:23] representative of the coalition
[5:04:26] to
[5:04:26] .
[5:04:28] >> I'm in the board of the
[5:04:30] coalition to protect prince
[5:04:31] william county.
[5:04:32] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:04:34] please continue with your five
[5:04:36] minutes I didn't hear you.
[5:04:38] >> I would like to ask you guys
[5:04:39] to defer or deny this project I
[5:04:41] was looking through the proper
[5:04:45] statement for page 21 of 26 of
[5:05:08] the strathmore proposal on
[5:05:10] section I it says in the domain
[5:05:11] in the event of the applicant
[5:05:13] is not able to acquire
[5:05:15] right-of-way required in order
[5:05:16] to provide the road
[5:05:18] improvements identified in
[5:05:19] proffer conditions above for
[5:05:21] clothes and associated
[5:05:23] pedestrian facilities
[5:05:24] identified in the comprehensive
[5:05:26] plan including but not limited
[5:05:28] to easement required for
[5:05:30] utilities utilities locations
[5:05:31] grading and storm water
[5:05:33] management for the road
[5:05:34] improvements and any other
[5:05:35] property interests the
[5:05:36] applicant shall request the
[5:05:38] county to acquire the necessary
[5:05:40] property interest by exercising
[5:05:42] of its condemnation powers at
[5:05:44] the applicant's expense. The
[5:05:45] applicant request shall be in
[5:05:47] riding and shall comply and be
[5:05:49] in respect with the eminent
[5:05:51] domain policy this sounds to me
[5:05:52] like they have purchased a
[5:05:54] piece of land they don't have
[5:05:55] enough room to do what they
[5:05:57] want to do they are going to
[5:05:58] take more land of hebron
[5:06:00] property I think is kind of
[5:06:01] despicable to think that
[5:06:03] anybody would vote in favor and
[5:06:10] without and destroy established
[5:06:12] labor to put in infrastructure
[5:06:14] for a new housing department is
[5:06:17] not very neighborly also I sent
[5:06:18] everybody an email today I
[5:06:29] would like to read hopefully I
[5:06:30] will get through it welcome
[5:06:32] supervisor stuart I really look
[5:06:34] forward to having
[5:06:36] representation in gainesville
[5:06:37] again who is willing to listen
[5:06:39] to the residence last night I
[5:06:41] saw you at the small area plan
[5:06:43] for vint hill I'm really
[5:06:44] confused I feel the cats have
[5:06:46] been let out of the barn if you
[5:06:47] approve this project will not
[5:06:49] be able to put them back in
[5:06:51] what is the plan here?
[5:06:52] Are you just getting community
[5:06:54] outreach danny going to say
[5:06:55] your opinion did not matter
[5:06:56] there were a lot of people
[5:06:58] there last night were worried
[5:07:02] about their community I feel if
[5:07:04] you do approve this plan
[5:07:05] tonight you owe everybody an
[5:07:07] email who attended last night
[5:07:09] to say that you are sorry that
[5:07:10] you wasted their time and that
[5:07:12] their opinion really did not
[5:07:16] matter in any case. In western
[5:07:17] and of prince william county
[5:07:19] have been talking about the
[5:07:25] reinvestment I think this plan
[5:07:27] needs to be implement citizens
[5:07:28] possible design density housing
[5:07:30] in these rural areas is
[5:07:31] detrimental to the residents
[5:07:33] and mourners who have invested
[5:07:36] so much into their community
[5:07:37] only to have it plowed over and
[5:07:39] impacts their quality of life
[5:07:40] that they have worked so hard
[5:07:43] to develop some help this is
[5:07:44] nothing fair especially if the
[5:07:45] new development impacts things
[5:07:47] like road schools and their
[5:07:49] wells adding 2000 houses is
[5:07:50] going to bring a lot of school
[5:07:52] age children and how will that
[5:07:54] affect the traffic in the area
[5:08:01] as well as the schools in the
[5:08:03] classroom especially since
[5:08:04] multiple schools are slated to
[5:08:07] be overcapacity right from the
[5:08:08] same time to small area plan
[5:08:12] would be due. Which would be
[5:08:13] spending two more years trying
[5:08:15] to figure out where he will
[5:08:16] send the kids. Then I came
[5:08:18] across two very interesting
[5:08:20] pieces of information this week
[5:08:21] one from dep with virginia
[5:08:23] trout monitoring task force
[5:08:30] they have expended the drought
[5:08:32] advisory to 50 counties and 23
[5:08:34] cities prince william county is
[5:08:36] included in this all origin is
[5:08:38] encouraged to protect water
[5:08:40] supply by minimizing water use
[5:08:41] and monitoring drought
[5:08:43] conditions how is that water
[5:08:45] study coming in prince william
[5:08:46] county are you guys prepared to
[5:08:48] pay for people's wells that are
[5:08:51] affected by this?
[5:08:52] Another piece of news cannot
[5:08:54] from nbc washington according
[5:08:57] to a report from the national
[5:08:58] association of realtors
[5:09:00] first-time homebuyers are
[5:09:01] putting in average of 10% down
[5:09:03] and most of them are getting
[5:09:05] loans from family or friends
[5:09:07] the average first-time
[5:09:09] homebuyer is now four years old
[5:09:11] all-time high the national
[5:09:13] association of realtors says an
[5:09:15] economist says you need
[5:09:16] household income of about
[5:09:17] $300,000 if you want to
[5:09:19] purchase a single-family
[5:09:20] detached home in northern
[5:09:22] virginia. It seems to me that
[5:09:23] times are changing and that
[5:09:25] prince william county is again
[5:09:27] behind the ball. Please defer
[5:09:28] denied this project until
[5:09:30] adequate proffers and or
[5:09:32] decreased density are in place.
[5:09:33] Thank you very much.
[5:09:34] >> Chair Jefferson:
[5:09:36] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:09:38] thank you MISS Growth.
[5:09:39] >> the second speakers are
[5:09:40] smacked.
[5:09:41] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:09:43] MS. Carol please begin.
[5:09:47] >> MS. Carol you can begin.
[5:09:47] >>.
[5:09:52] [Listing names] I would like to
[5:09:55] request five minutes of.
[5:10:01] [Listing names] I live in
[5:10:03] principal as you all know
[5:10:04] welcome supervisor stuart I
[5:10:06] actually live along vint hill
[5:10:08] road owls nest is my point of
[5:10:12] access into the world how I get
[5:10:19] around.
[5:10:21] I traversed this area very
[5:10:22] regularly. What I heard tonight
[5:10:24] was a discussion of a lot of
[5:10:25] things around about adele's
[5:10:31] best fire station land for fire
[5:10:33] station land for middle school
[5:10:34] the curve on the vint hill road
[5:10:36] and how that is going to be
[5:10:37] addressed.
[5:10:38] Let's be clear those are not
[5:10:40] proffers associated with this
[5:10:41] application.
[5:10:43] I heard a lot of discussion of
[5:10:44] proffers and mitigation and
[5:10:50] what other projects are doing
[5:10:51] my understanding is that you
[5:10:53] all are not allowed to discuss
[5:10:55] any proffers that commit board
[5:10:57] to future vote I pulled the
[5:10:58] zoning ordinance while I was
[5:11:11] listening to all. It is pretty
[5:11:12] clear is pretty explicit only
[5:11:14] those written and graphic
[5:11:15] materials that have been
[5:11:16] referenced in a proper
[5:11:18] statement MAY be displayed in
[5:11:19] the public hearing before the
[5:11:21] planning commission or the
[5:11:22] board of county supervisors why
[5:11:25] are we really discussing this
[5:11:27] year we're discussing
[5:11:29] strathmore a standalone
[5:11:33] application we are discussing
[5:11:35] strathmore's impacts on schools
[5:11:37] strathmore's impacts on roads.
[5:11:39] Strathmore's impact on our
[5:11:40] natural resources like the
[5:11:42] watershed like our fire
[5:11:43] department our parks our
[5:11:44] libraries and I appreciate what
[5:11:51] the applicant has done with
[5:11:53] their master plan. I want to
[5:11:55] just the developer and the
[5:11:56] master plan I was a little
[5:11:58] confused again this was brought
[5:12:00] up tonight. So I went in and
[5:12:01] pulled it well and listen to
[5:12:03] all speak it was submitted on
[5:12:03] APRIL 22, 2025.
[5:12:05] Over six months ago. Over six
[5:12:07] months ago before the committee
[5:12:09] meeting before the planning
[5:12:11] commission hearings. Before the
[5:12:15] small area plan kickoff. None
[5:12:16] of four silver bell which the
[5:12:18] applicant acknowledged was only
[5:12:20] submitted about six weeks ago.
[5:12:21] Silver bell is not even in
[5:12:23] there in a comprehensive
[5:12:24] manner. I'm a little confused
[5:12:26] by this developer master plan
[5:12:28] is now being held up as the
[5:12:29] plan for the vint hill area.
[5:12:31] In the vint hill quarter when
[5:12:33] last night my family we raised
[5:12:34] our schedule so my husband
[5:12:36] could take the time to be at a
[5:12:46] vint hill small area kickoff
[5:12:48] meeting I thought that was the
[5:12:50] plan I'm confused is this the
[5:12:51] community driven process to
[5:12:53] develop at this area or is this
[5:12:54] the developer driven process
[5:12:56] when I hear about this
[5:12:58] developer master plan that
[5:12:59] butler was never presented to
[5:13:01] the community it was never
[5:13:02] presented to the community was
[5:13:04] there a committee meeting for
[5:13:06] the developer master plan?
[5:13:08] There was a community meeting
[5:13:10] for strathmore there was a
[5:13:11] committee meeting for stella
[5:13:13] martin project and a committee
[5:13:14] meeting for cheryl resource
[5:13:16] probably I would say what about
[5:13:17] the traffic on the owls nest
[5:13:19] they said we not deal with owls
[5:13:21] nest we are strathmore senegal
[5:13:23] to save product he says we are
[5:13:25] not dealing with owls nest we
[5:13:26] are on the other side of the
[5:13:28] road than I go to the spec says
[5:13:30] we are that owls nest will not
[5:13:32] bring the density the community
[5:13:34] is not getting a fair answer
[5:13:35] then I'm expected to sit here
[5:13:37] and save the developer master
[5:13:39] plan has it all figured out the
[5:13:41] schools the road the fire
[5:13:42] department all of it let's be
[5:13:44] clear what is proffered from
[5:13:46] strathmore is less than $1
[5:13:47] million per schools it is less
[5:13:48] then $700,000 for parks.
[5:13:50] It is way less the matt forte
[5:13:51] higher.
[5:13:56] I'm a little confused if we are
[5:13:57] at a school board registering
[5:13:59] meeting or a board of county
[5:14:01] supervisors hearing because
[5:14:02] when you're sean patrick
[5:14:04] telling me for all these kids
[5:14:05] in the area going to go to
[5:14:07] school I have concerns because
[5:14:09] I did not vote for sean patrick
[5:14:11] my ballot for school board or
[5:14:12] board of county supervisors
[5:14:14] county chair I do appreciate
[5:14:16] supervisor stuart bring up the
[5:14:18] fatality and owls nest I was at
[5:14:20] that fatality within 10 minutes
[5:14:22] of happening with my kids in
[5:14:23] the car it was horrific.
[5:14:25] It was because of construction
[5:14:33] supervisor gordy is correct but
[5:14:35] there have been other accidents
[5:14:36] right in front of the house
[5:14:38] multiple accidents people being
[5:14:40] branded motorcycles a few weeks
[5:14:42] later our table and
[5:14:43] internetworking out there was
[5:14:45] an accident the cut the cable
[5:14:47] it is not just because of one
[5:14:48] person speeding or when
[5:14:50] construction there is a real
[5:14:52] problem in this area and adding
[5:14:53] density while I'm supportive of
[5:14:55] the roundabout and supportive
[5:14:58] of traffic improvements but
[5:15:00] adding density and not properly
[5:15:02] planning that is not a partisan
[5:15:03] issue you do not have the
[5:15:05] another set of any aisle to
[5:15:06] understand that poor planning
[5:15:08] is poor planning and the people
[5:15:10] that suffer are the people who
[5:15:12] live in the area. I appreciate
[5:15:13] that MR. Patrick sent out
[5:15:16] mailers people within a 1 mile
[5:15:17] radius when I see that he is
[5:15:19] now talking about mitigation
[5:15:21] along the road along a 4 mile
[5:15:23] span of road brought all those
[5:15:24] people on that road century
[5:15:24] mailers MR.
[5:15:26] Patrick I don't
[5:15:27] think so I did not get one.
[5:15:29] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:15:30] MS. Carol next speaker please.
[5:15:32] >> there are no more speakers.
[5:15:34] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:15:36] that includes the speakers for
[5:15:37] the evening.
[5:15:39] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:15:41] so very much. I'm going to go
[5:15:42] ahead unless there is anybody
[5:15:44] else wants to speak if you have
[5:15:46] not spoken I don't see anybody
[5:15:47] I will go ahead and close the
[5:15:49] public hearing for agenda item
[5:15:51] number 13 ai would like to have
[5:15:51] either the
[5:15:53] applicant if there's
[5:15:55] anything you want to respond to
[5:15:56] I've closed the public hearing
[5:15:57] did you have?
[5:15:59] I'm so sorry how this is with
[5:16:01] the public hearing everyone
[5:16:02] gets a chance to speak once.
[5:16:04] Unless you are with an approved
[5:16:08] hoa one c3 then you get five
[5:16:10] minutes otherwise everybody is
[5:16:17] limited to three minutes.
[5:16:19] It is so we can move the
[5:16:21] meeting along. What I'm doing
[5:16:22] and allowing the applicant to
[5:16:24] come back up and respond to any
[5:16:26] questions or anything that he
[5:16:28] or she is hard for it does how
[5:16:30] the rules work. I'm sorry but I
[5:16:31] do appreciate you for coming
[5:16:33] out today MR. Patrick the guy
[5:16:34] with two last names.
[5:16:39] >> Applicant: thank you very
[5:16:41] much for the opportunity?
[5:16:43] And comment on things that were
[5:16:45] raised I will go to these
[5:16:47] quickly as they were fred tried
[5:16:49] to give you some additional
[5:16:50] perspective on some of these
[5:16:52] there was a comment about the
[5:16:53] small area plan and the timing
[5:16:55] of the small area plan while it
[5:16:57] is not ideal for small area
[5:16:59] plan was conceptualized and
[5:17:01] initiated after these rezoning
[5:17:04] applications were filed it is
[5:17:08] not incongruous the small area
[5:17:10] plan will continue to have a
[5:17:11] very important purpose. In
[5:17:13] looking at the remaining
[5:17:16] properties and for the
[5:17:18] different infrastructure
[5:17:20] decisions that are going to be
[5:17:21] made for this area in the
[5:17:24] future.
[5:17:26] As the planning director said
[5:17:27] small area plan will cover a
[5:17:33] much larger area as well.
[5:17:34] If you look at the map I don't
[5:17:36] have it on the screen now if
[5:17:37] you look at the map and you
[5:17:39] look at the seven rezoning
[5:17:40] applications that are being
[5:17:42] discussed this evening in the
[5:17:44] context of our one our 155 acre
[5:17:47] rezoning application there is
[5:17:50] quite a bit of land left and
[5:17:52] there would be we've had a
[5:17:54] little operation because of the
[5:17:55] three developers involved in
[5:17:57] this article or case the small
[5:17:58] area plan will assure the
[5:18:03] continued cooperation and
[5:18:04] consistency of future
[5:18:06] applications that you would
[5:18:07] receive in this area. With
[5:18:09] respect to the amount of
[5:18:10] traffic on vint hill road vint
[5:18:12] hill road after the development
[5:18:14] after the traffic impact
[5:18:16] analysis was completed which
[5:18:17] added traffic from this
[5:18:19] proposal has about a 30% pass
[5:18:20] through traffic on it that is
[5:18:35] traffic that is coming from
[5:18:36] vulture county or other
[5:18:38] pointing going into prince
[5:18:39] william county and
[5:18:40] back-and-forth that is while we
[5:18:42] have a state highway department
[5:18:44] because roads are not traveled
[5:18:47] just within the county people
[5:18:48] go from one county to the next
[5:18:50] we have to recognize the fact
[5:18:51] that traffic is going to grow
[5:18:53] on vint hill road as adjoining
[5:18:56] counties grow and as implement
[5:18:57] opportunities grown prince
[5:18:59] william county but whatever
[5:19:00] residential not the traffic and
[5:19:02] the road is going to be widened
[5:19:04] and it is going to need
[5:19:06] additional improvement in fact
[5:19:07] it's already in our
[5:19:09] comprehensive plan for some
[5:19:11] substantial improvement as MR.
[5:19:13] Paolo explained when he was
[5:19:14] standing there.
[5:19:15] Traffic impact analysis also
[5:19:17] want to explain is a very
[5:19:19] complicated and sophisticated
[5:19:20] computer modeling process that
[5:19:23] is completed by professionals
[5:19:24] this is not a group of
[5:19:25] developers going out and saying
[5:19:27] we think it is going to be this
[5:19:29] many trips are that many trips
[5:19:31] there are companies that make a
[5:19:33] great deal of effort and apply
[5:19:35] their best professional
[5:19:36] knowledge as well as I said
[5:19:39] before automated techniques for
[5:19:40] determining how traffic might
[5:19:41] grow.
[5:19:42] His is a very
[5:19:44] substantial effort that is been
[5:19:45] undertaken not only by
[5:19:47] strathmore for their particular
[5:19:49] project which did not show any
[5:19:49] negative impact on traffic
[5:19:51] capacity on vint hill road but
[5:19:52] also with the collective
[5:19:54] efforts of the seven developers
[5:19:57] who are part of the vint hill
[5:19:59] application. There was little
[5:20:00] discussion about the white oak
[5:20:03] tree and uncertain see about
[5:20:04] the white tree the rest of the
[5:20:06] property line that is more on
[5:20:08] the adjoining property line
[5:20:09] that it is on the brookville
[5:20:11] property it would make it clear
[5:20:12] the field has done everything
[5:20:14] it can on its property and it
[5:20:16] is even offered with the
[5:20:18] applicant with the neighbors
[5:20:19] permission to go on to their
[5:20:21] property and apply the chemist
[5:20:23] that which is a chemical that
[5:20:24] is very effective in preserving
[5:20:26] trees that are being disturbed
[5:20:27] or their roots are being
[5:20:29] disturbed to try to slow the
[5:20:30] growth during a couple of
[5:20:34] seasons after the construction
[5:20:35] occurs. So if there is lesser
[5:20:38] impact on the strathmore side
[5:20:39] it was clearly said they have
[5:20:40] done what they can and they
[5:20:42] have complied with the design
[5:20:44] and construction standards
[5:20:46] requirements for critical root
[5:20:53] zone protection.
[5:20:55] There is 46% open space on this
[5:20:57] property I think that got
[5:20:58] overlooked as we were going
[5:21:00] through some of the comments.
[5:21:01] That is a very significant
[5:21:03] amount of open space on the
[5:21:05] development of the size and
[5:21:06] part of the reason that is
[5:21:12] possible is your smaller lots
[5:21:14] we talked for years about what
[5:21:15] we need to cluster development
[5:21:17] to preserve our natural
[5:21:19] resources and preserve
[5:21:21] environmental sensitive areas
[5:21:23] like wetlands that's exactly
[5:21:24] what is developers doing that
[5:21:26] is why we are 40% 46% open
[5:21:27] space is because those wetlands
[5:21:29] are being protected the design
[5:21:31] is sensitive to the
[5:21:33] environmental sensitivity of
[5:21:34] the particular property.
[5:21:36] a comment was made about the
[5:21:41] eminent domain proffer is in
[5:21:43] the proper conditions want you
[5:21:44] to note that as of property
[5:21:46] condition the county has been
[5:21:47] accepting for 35 years that
[5:21:49] came up a really fun time ago
[5:21:51] it is the result of a need that
[5:21:52] was recognized by the county
[5:21:54] and the county attorney's
[5:21:56] office up to crafted that many
[5:22:02] years ago that was necessary
[5:22:05] because occasionally you need
[5:22:06] to get a sliver of land from
[5:22:08] the property next door you need
[5:22:10] to get an easement for the
[5:22:11] storm water pipe that needs to
[5:22:13] go under the road a private
[5:22:15] property owner cannot get those
[5:22:16] things on their own. That is
[5:22:18] why they look to the government
[5:22:20] to help them with that is not
[5:22:22] stealing anyone's property is
[5:22:23] being done on the basis of the
[5:22:29] greater good consistent with
[5:22:31] the county's authority to make
[5:22:33] decisions for the greater good
[5:22:35] and to provide for the public
[5:22:36] safety and public
[5:22:37] infrastructure is necessary to
[5:22:38] serve us all.
[5:22:40] The fact that the average
[5:22:41] first-time buyer was reported
[5:22:43] to be 40 years old that is
[5:22:45] pointing directly to the issues
[5:22:47] that are mentioned at the very
[5:22:48] beginning that we have a
[5:22:50] housing crisis in this country
[5:22:52] housing crisis is the direct
[5:22:54] result of people opposing
[5:22:55] housing wherever it might go.
[5:22:56] I can tell you that every
[5:22:58] application that we process
[5:23:00] I've been doing it for a long
[5:23:02] time there are people who are
[5:23:04] opposed to the housing on the
[5:23:09] property next door every one
[5:23:11] agrees we need more for the
[5:23:12] housing everybody joints their
[5:23:14] own children to be able to buy
[5:23:16] homes and to have the
[5:23:17] opportunity that they had to
[5:23:19] gain the wealth through the
[5:23:21] purchase of a home when it's in
[5:23:22] their neighborhood they don't
[5:23:22] want it.
[5:23:26] Hat type of approach
[5:23:27] and attitude is making it
[5:23:30] extremely difficult for you as
[5:23:32] a governing body to make sure
[5:23:34] that everybody has housing and
[5:23:38] has opportunity to buy housing
[5:23:39] in the county so you can there
[5:23:41] is a direct correlation the
[5:23:47] availability of housing to the
[5:23:49] employment opportunities and
[5:23:50] tax base in the county. If you
[5:23:52] have any additional questions
[5:23:55] if there's anything you want me
[5:23:57] to expound upon happy to try to
[5:23:59] do that hope this evening you
[5:24:00] will be able to take action on
[5:24:02] this case which is been in it
[5:24:04] since FEBRUARY 2023 not APRIL
[5:24:05] but since
[5:24:06] FEBRUARY 2023.
[5:24:07] >> Chair Jefferson: all right
[5:24:09] thank you I don't see anybody
[5:24:12] amadeus jumping thank you much
[5:24:14] for the clarification I don't
[5:24:16] know if staff has anything who
[5:24:25] has a good
[5:24:26] .
[5:24:28] >> Tom Gordy: thank you to the
[5:24:29] folks that came out and spoke
[5:24:31] tonight thank you for again for
[5:24:32] all the work is done by our
[5:24:37] staff to help us get a better
[5:24:38] approach a smarter approach
[5:24:40] more holistic approach to try
[5:24:42] to be thousand needs of this
[5:24:44] community in prince william
[5:24:48] county while it is definitely
[5:24:54] different my hope is that we
[5:24:56] get better development as a
[5:24:57] result of it MADAM Chair I move
[5:24:58] to approve item 13 a
[5:24:59] .
[5:25:00] >> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[5:25:04] motion
[5:25:05] .
[5:25:07] >> Chair Jefferson: it's been
[5:25:08] probably moved and seconded in
[5:25:08] the
[5:25:09] discussion.
[5:25:11] >> Kenny Boddye: I will be
[5:25:13] quick on this one person wanted
[5:25:18] to thank supervisor gordy for
[5:25:20] his vision on this note as you
[5:25:21] said before you pump the brakes
[5:25:24] on this a lot not really got
[5:25:25] into this alongside this
[5:25:26] applicant and build applicant
[5:25:28] we are here to talk about this
[5:25:30] product and will stay there
[5:25:31] what this product hundred and
[5:25:33] 68 presidential dwelling units
[5:25:35] 17 affordable units $840,000
[5:25:37] goes to the school of
[5:25:38] compliments on your mind
[5:25:40] sections planning commission
[5:25:42] and staff recommended approval
[5:25:44] for rezoning is itself a single
[5:25:46] gas on the comprehensive plan
[5:25:53] as staff reported out we see
[5:25:55] this as an opportunity to do
[5:25:56] things differently as
[5:25:58] supervisor gordy said also in
[5:26:00] the context I appreciate scott
[5:26:02] myers for calmness and the
[5:26:04] compensation we had along the
[5:26:05] way context matters again this
[5:26:07] is not some far-flung court
[5:26:09] over rural areas this is next
[5:26:19] to a planned residential
[5:26:20] community at one point was also
[5:26:22] a form that somebody at some
[5:26:24] point did not want to happen we
[5:26:26] need to make sure that we have
[5:26:27] that in context and continue to
[5:26:29] look at this project and other
[5:26:31] projects as well I want to
[5:26:33] highlight the almost 50% open
[5:26:34] space that is been preserved
[5:26:36] here that is important because
[5:26:38] again as we look at context as
[5:26:39] we shift away from more
[5:26:41] developed areas in the suburbia
[5:26:43] proper that kind of
[5:26:44] preservation open space helps
[5:26:46] to create the context of us see
[5:26:48] a more gradual transition to a
[5:26:50] more rural area both south
[5:26:52] across vint hill road as we go
[5:26:53] west with the potter county
[5:26:55] line I think that's important
[5:26:57] point ultimately as was said by
[5:26:58] some of the speakers but by
[5:27:00] supervisor gordy and by the
[5:27:01] applicant we have a shortage of
[5:27:03] housing in this region in this
[5:27:07] county you cannot get at that
[5:27:08] housing affordability we cannot
[5:27:10] stabilize housing prices
[5:27:11] midcounty if we don't approve
[5:27:13] more housing for us it's a
[5:27:14] simple as that. But I do
[5:27:19] appreciate about this project
[5:27:21] they are looking at a continuum
[5:27:23] of housing types not just
[5:27:25] having one cookie-cutter type
[5:27:27] that is over the entire thing
[5:27:28] like we see with other housing
[5:27:31] in presidential development I
[5:27:32] wanted to highlight and say
[5:27:34] that both MS. Context of this
[5:27:36] project but in the greater
[5:27:37] context of what is coming after
[5:27:39] that having a diversity of
[5:27:41] housing is out we are able to
[5:27:43] provide an opportunity several
[5:27:44] people have not only a place to
[5:27:46] live but homeownership which is
[5:27:47] a way to start generating
[5:27:49] wealth and build a social
[5:27:50] ladder to climb up in the world
[5:27:52] we cannot get it that
[5:27:52] if we
[5:27:54] don't approve and build more
[5:27:56] housing in responsible smarts
[5:27:58] ways like this one I support
[5:27:59] just thank you manager.
[5:28:00] >
[5:28:01] Yesli Vega: thank you to the
[5:28:03] residence of the brentsville
[5:28:04] district document to speak I
[5:28:18] think you to the county staff
[5:28:20] thank you to the applicant as
[5:28:22] well I know supervisor gordy
[5:28:24] you have put in a lot of time
[5:28:25] and effort in this project with
[5:28:27] that being said I do recognize
[5:28:30] the county has developed a
[5:28:31] document from 1990 which
[5:28:33] predates the constitutional
[5:28:34] amendment that was adopted in
[5:28:36] 2012 I will read that for
[5:28:38] awareness it says taking of
[5:28:39] private property is not for
[5:28:40] public use if the primary use
[5:28:42] is for private gain private
[5:28:44] benefit increasing jobs
[5:28:46] increasing tax revenue or
[5:28:47] economic to vomit what we've
[5:28:48] established your tonight is
[5:28:50] simple and very clear this road
[5:28:52] widening is not needed today by
[5:28:54] the public it becomes necessary
[5:28:56] only because seven private
[5:28:58] developments are adding
[5:28:59] thousands of new trips to his
[5:29:00] corridor without those projects
[5:29:02] this improvement would not be
[5:29:04] required I think we made that
[5:29:06] very clear based on the answers
[5:29:08] provided by department of
[5:29:09] transportation that matters
[5:29:11] because when government uses
[5:29:13] its power especially the power
[5:29:16] to take property the virginia
[5:29:18] constitution requires that the
[5:29:19] primary purpose be public and
[5:29:21] not incidental. Not secondary
[5:29:23] primary. Clearly the primary
[5:29:25] driver is private development.
[5:29:26] The immediate benefit is
[5:29:29] private development that raises
[5:29:30] constitutional concerns permit
[5:29:32] the goal will be on the
[5:29:34] something is merely defensible
[5:29:35] in a legal proceeding or
[5:29:35] not. I
[5:29:37] take property rights very
[5:29:39] seriously everybody on this day
[5:29:41] is knows that I take the
[5:29:43] constitution seriously I cannot
[5:29:45] in good faith support rezoning
[5:29:47] is critical unstructured needs
[5:29:48] exist only because a private
[5:29:50] project demands it. That
[5:29:51] manager I will be voting no.
[5:29:53] >> Chair Jefferson: anyone else
[5:29:54] before I speak.
[5:29:56] >> George Stewart: I do believe
[5:29:58] in housing I do believe we do
[5:30:00] need more housing I just
[5:30:02] believe it needs to happen in
[5:30:03] the right way it needs to
[5:30:04] happen also in the right area.
[5:30:06] I don't think this is the right
[5:30:08] area I don't think this is the
[5:30:09] right way.
[5:30:10] Unfortunately I will also be
[5:30:11] voting no.
[5:30:13] >> Chair Jefferson: all right
[5:30:15] real quickly I am going to jump
[5:30:16] and I apologize to everyone I
[5:30:18] really truly meant to attend
[5:30:20] the vint hill small area plan
[5:30:22] last night unfortunately I did
[5:30:24] have core issues that is why I
[5:30:30] was unable to attend I've been
[5:30:32] going to listen to the comments
[5:30:34] breeding females we got I will
[5:30:36] say yes jessica grote were
[5:30:37] right you will need around
[5:30:39] $300,000 to porterhouse
[5:30:40] nowadays you need to have two
[5:30:41] incomes the problem I think is
[5:30:44] because we are behind it people
[5:30:45] that is causing the problems
[5:30:46] with portability we are behind
[5:30:56] it people obviously I would
[5:30:58] like to conserve land that's a
[5:30:59] whole separate compensation
[5:31:01] that we need to have what is
[5:31:03] the best way to preserve land?
[5:31:05] Just as those who oppose this
[5:31:07] project we feel it compromises
[5:31:08] their own quality of life I
[5:31:10] just want to be careful with
[5:31:13] that have a home that you love
[5:31:15] I want other people to have a
[5:31:19] home that they love.
[5:31:21] We cannot do that right now in
[5:31:23] this moment. Without looking at
[5:31:24] different ways to create more
[5:31:30] housing stock.
[5:31:31] I will not going to say we have
[5:31:34] a housing crisis we have an
[5:31:36] affordability crisis people
[5:31:42] cannot afford to live here.
[5:31:44] That is a problem that is
[5:31:45] something I take personally. I
[5:31:47] came to prince william county
[5:31:49] because this was the affordable
[5:31:51] place to be. It is not
[5:32:10] affordable anymore.
[5:32:12] Someone like me 10 years ago
[5:32:13] adjusting for inflation they
[5:32:14] still cannot afford to live
[5:32:16] there. I want people to be able
[5:32:18] to come to this community and
[5:32:19] make it their home. It is
[5:32:21] become so much harder. Because
[5:32:23] of that. I've heard a lot of
[5:32:24] people talk about at least on
[5:32:26] email talk about how density:
[5:32:28] this project is one project but
[5:32:31] the whole corridor as well high
[5:32:32] density. High density is
[5:32:34] multistory apartments they are
[5:32:34] condos.
[5:32:36] There is something that
[5:32:38] maximizes the land and building
[5:32:40] vertically. This is suburban
[5:32:41] developments. Just as people
[5:32:43] who have a single family homes
[5:32:45] love their homes we need more
[5:32:46] of that. Other people want to
[5:32:48] have their piece of the
[5:32:48] american dream.
[5:32:50] I cannot stand in the way of
[5:32:50] that.
[5:32:53] I think there is a lot of
[5:32:54] conversations we need to have
[5:32:56] around housing and land use.
[5:32:58] Again preservation is an
[5:32:59] important part of that
[5:33:01] discussion but just because you
[5:33:04] have your piece of the american
[5:33:05] dream don't deny to somebody
[5:33:07] else. I am supporting this
[5:33:08] project I am going to give
[5:33:10] praise to my colleague
[5:33:11] supervisor gordy I know you've
[5:33:13] taken some hits on this. I want
[5:33:15] to be very clear all of this
[5:33:16] stuff the ball on this project
[5:33:18] on these projects started
[5:33:21] before supervisor gordy and
[5:33:23] supervisor stuart government
[5:33:24] office yes the small area plan
[5:33:26] is playing catch-up it
[5:33:28] should've come many years prior
[5:33:30] but it didn't. I still see a
[5:33:33] need for that there is still
[5:33:34] still need to look at how this
[5:33:36] whole corridor is going to work
[5:33:37] together it is not ideal.
[5:33:39] But a lot of our government is
[5:33:43] not ideal.
[5:33:44] What I want to get away from
[5:33:46] what I like about this project
[5:33:48] is it is not piecemeal or
[5:33:49] patchwork.
[5:33:50] We have a lot of that in this
[5:33:52] county we have a lot of
[5:33:57] piecemeal patchwork projects
[5:33:58] that is why I'm supporting it
[5:34:00] and doing what to say to my
[5:34:04] colleagues supervisor gordy
[5:34:06] this is in your district I
[5:34:08] appreciate the work that you've
[5:34:10] done also trying to bring the
[5:34:11] different developers to the
[5:34:13] table I truly appreciate that.
[5:34:15] I will let you have a blessed
[5:34:15] lord.
[5:34:17] >> Victor Angry: I didn't want
[5:34:19] to speak I don't do this I feel
[5:34:21] the need to because I've been
[5:34:23] on this board six years you've
[5:34:31] heard it I'm the last standing
[5:34:32] longest surviving the sport is
[5:34:34] been over the place I'm talking
[5:34:36] to the board I've always said
[5:34:38] this the public gets to hear us
[5:34:40] we are fishable we talk to each
[5:34:42] other and not done they get
[5:34:44] treatments then begin a public
[5:34:45] hearing for an effort to
[5:34:47] support core all over the place
[5:34:49] support the district supervisor
[5:34:50] when they make a motion what's
[5:34:52] in their district it's been
[5:34:53] supported not supported there
[5:34:56] is one county in prince william
[5:34:57] county it is prince william
[5:35:01] county there is not seven
[5:35:03] counties in principal and
[5:35:04] county even the products we put
[5:35:06] in these districts we have an
[5:35:08] obligation at this board is the
[5:35:10] status to prevent move this
[5:35:11] county forward the staff does a
[5:35:13] great job with it the plan
[5:35:15] commission because a great job
[5:35:16] with it we have everything in
[5:35:18] place to do the job we supposed
[5:35:20] to be doing make these
[5:35:20] decisions.
[5:35:22] I'm sorry I love it's recorded
[5:35:24] in people get to hear but in
[5:35:26] talking to all supervisor gordy
[5:35:27] you put a whole lot of work
[5:35:29] into this you public on the
[5:35:30] best solution out of lowering
[5:35:32] density of which just to prove
[5:35:34] a public human way higher
[5:35:35] you've done all you could with
[5:35:38] this it is your product that is
[5:35:39] why I give you credit for the
[5:35:41] district that you represent you
[5:35:43] brought it to the board I think
[5:35:45] you brought a great product to
[5:35:47] the board I get everything that
[5:35:49] is been set around it at the
[5:35:50] end of the day when we talk
[5:35:52] about these housing and the
[5:35:54] prices housing in the county
[5:35:56] the only lower pricing when you
[5:35:58] get more homes built that is
[5:35:59] exactly what you did you could
[5:36:01] have done more but you did what
[5:36:03] you need to do to keep that
[5:36:04] corridor balanced that is what
[5:36:06] you've done I just want to say
[5:36:08] that folks typically spend a
[5:36:09] lot of time going around and
[5:36:11] stuff I will just operate there
[5:36:11] thanks
[5:36:13] supervisor gordy thank
[5:36:15] you I appreciate it.
[5:36:16] >> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[5:36:18] >> Tom Gordy: thank you for
[5:36:21] cheerful what you said about
[5:36:23] what is going on with housing
[5:36:24] and thank you everyone else for
[5:36:26] your input I just want to
[5:36:29] remind the community and at
[5:36:31] this board how we got to where
[5:36:33] we are right now.
[5:36:35] There was land for residential
[5:36:36] development along the linton
[5:36:39] whole quarter the people said
[5:36:41] don't put houses there.
[5:36:45] It had a sewer and water there
[5:36:47] were roads there were schools.
[5:36:50] What they said don't put
[5:36:53] houses there.
[5:36:55] What did they put their. Data
[5:37:00] centers.
[5:37:01] Raise your hand if you are
[5:37:03] happy about the data centers
[5:37:04] going along linton whole
[5:37:05] corridor?
[5:37:11] Nobody.
[5:37:16] When we govern in fear we end
[5:37:22] up with decisions like that.
[5:37:26] Now here we are 10 years later
[5:37:31] we have a housing crisis I do
[5:37:33] call it a crisis I don't know
[5:37:34] how my kids are ever going to
[5:37:36] be able afford house if it were
[5:37:37] not for homeownership I would
[5:37:39] still be paying student loan
[5:37:43] debt.
[5:37:44] If it were not for
[5:37:46] homeownership I would still be
[5:37:48] stuck with a lot more debt but
[5:37:50] homeownership is the greatest
[5:37:52] opportunity in this country
[5:37:54] wealth building.
[5:37:55] Right now in prince william
[5:37:57] county upward mobility has come
[5:38:05] to a screeching halt.
[5:38:06] I know this because I get
[5:38:08] complaints from neighborhoods
[5:38:10] like braemar complaining about
[5:38:12] the number of families living
[5:38:13] in a house.
[5:38:16] Jamming up the road with cars
[5:38:22] we can be blind to the problem
[5:38:23] but the reality is we are going
[5:38:25] to have to build houses
[5:38:33] somewhere.
[5:38:35] Now we've got to find a way to
[5:38:36] adjust this if we don't build
[5:38:38] it here they are going to build
[5:38:40] it somewhere else.
[5:38:41] He will build it in culpeper
[5:38:44] bulkier stafford go to
[5:38:45] fleetwood in the morning and
[5:38:47] see much traffic is coming to
[5:38:49] prince william county from
[5:38:52] stafford county guests who will
[5:38:53] have to pay to fix fleetwood
[5:38:55] how taxpayers will still have
[5:38:57] to use eminent domain on that
[5:38:59] except it's for public deed
[5:39:00] caused by stafford county. We
[5:39:02] get no economic benefit from it
[5:39:09] but we have to pay for it.
[5:39:10] This is going to be a repeated
[5:39:16] pattern of bad behavior if we
[5:39:18] don't take a look at the need
[5:39:20] that we have before us and
[5:39:21] begin to address this prince
[5:39:22] william county as part of
[5:39:24] northern virginia.
[5:39:25] While I do want to preserve
[5:39:27] open space and have a directive
[5:39:29] aimed at doing just that so we
[5:39:42] can establish a free market
[5:39:44] approach to land conservation
[5:39:45] and land preservation through
[5:39:47] pdr purchase department rights
[5:39:49] transfer debarment rights and
[5:39:50] conservation easements.
[5:39:52] So we also have a plan for that
[5:39:54] but he gets back to 1.5
[5:39:55] continue to use since I got
[5:40:00] sworn and it is about balance.
[5:40:01] Right now we are out of
[5:40:03] balance. We are out of balance
[5:40:05] with data centers we have too
[5:40:06] many of them to we have to get
[5:40:09] it back to balance. We have out
[5:40:10] of balance and housing a
[5:40:11] single-family home on a less
[5:40:13] than half acre lot in my
[5:40:14] district just went for $1.9
[5:40:16] million.
[5:40:19] It is insane what's happening
[5:40:22] guess what that means our taxes
[5:40:23] are going up.
[5:40:26] We will pay for
[5:40:41] this one way or the other.
[5:40:42] By saying no there is a
[5:40:44] downstream effects. On all of
[5:40:46] us by saying yes there is a
[5:40:47] downstream effect on all of us.
[5:40:49] My job is to figure out what is
[5:40:51] the right balance I think we
[5:40:53] strike the right balance here I
[5:40:55] will continue to work to try to
[5:40:56] strike that right balance
[5:40:58] because it is what is necessary
[5:40:59] for a good community.
[5:41:01] I appreciate all the hard work
[5:41:03] that is here I appreciate we
[5:41:05] will agree to disagree amongst
[5:41:06] ourselves that is okay. When
[5:41:08] it's all said and done you will
[5:41:10] get together we will still
[5:41:11] respect one another we will
[5:41:13] continue to work for the good
[5:41:14] of this community. I appreciate
[5:41:16] all the input that people are
[5:41:18] afraid we just got to continue
[5:41:20] to work towards the right
[5:41:22] balance I appreciate all the
[5:41:23] work has been done so far we
[5:41:25] will continue to do thank you.
[5:41:27] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:41:29] very much I would like call for
[5:41:29] the vote.
[5:41:34] >> motion passes 6/2 supervisor
[5:41:38] vega until PRESIDENT Stewart
[5:41:45] supervisor stuart
[5:41:45] .
[5:41:47] >> Chair Jefferson: it's what
[5:41:49] happened when I don't have the
[5:41:51] agenda public comment time I'm
[5:41:52] sorry who do we have.
[5:41:54] We have
[5:41:54] .
[5:42:19] [Listing names] Then we have
[5:42:20] this is public comment if you
[5:42:22] want to quickly take the sign
[5:42:24] off do we have another sign-up
[5:42:32] sheet back there.
[5:42:33] You can go ahead and then we
[5:42:37] have other people we can you
[5:42:42] have three minutes.
[5:42:46] >> this is pertaining to
[5:42:49] default on what topic for
[5:42:49] .
[5:42:51] >> Chair Jefferson: you can
[5:42:56] topic.
[5:42:57] Are you prepared or should I
[5:42:59] invite the other one backup.
[5:43:02] >> I think I'm prepared this
[5:43:04] applicant is not part of the
[5:43:07] medial contribution to the
[5:43:09] widening of the comprehensive
[5:43:10] road plan which is what the
[5:43:30] other developers are proposing
[5:43:32] to do to vint hill road they
[5:43:34] made no contribution to the
[5:43:36] road they are taking 10 school
[5:43:38] credits from knoxville and
[5:43:39] transfer those 10 school
[5:43:41] credits leaders school is at an
[5:43:43] expansion each school has 10
[5:43:44] the overcapacity. Why is the
[5:43:47] plan commission by the board of
[5:43:49] supervisors not more hundred
[5:43:51] percent involved with the
[5:43:52] school board as a whole the
[5:43:54] find out you will find these
[5:43:56] they offered to new sites in.
[5:43:57] [Listing names] No school in
[5:44:03] this strap development who will
[5:44:05] fund the schools $300 million
[5:44:13] is what they quoted I'm
[5:44:14] crunching the numbers because
[5:44:16] the planning commission asked
[5:44:18] the developer stanley martin
[5:44:19] how much will he make profit
[5:44:21] for house he said $30,000
[5:44:21] 300c
[5:44:23] 000 $300 million will fund
[5:44:24] the schools we cannot continue
[5:44:28] to put the burden of taxation
[5:44:30] on the residence of this county
[5:44:31] to keep funding for roads and
[5:44:33] keep funding the schools when
[5:44:35] the developers need the proper
[5:44:37] office and make a concession to
[5:44:39] the county as part of their
[5:44:41] development package going back
[5:44:43] to what they said if we were
[5:44:45] building schools was going to
[5:44:46] find these calls will state is
[5:44:48] a negative drag it does not
[5:44:50] produce economics for the
[5:44:52] county more taxation more
[5:44:53] taxation will virtually be
[5:44:55] taxed out of the county this
[5:44:56] happened to me in fairfax
[5:44:58] county I dealt with the
[5:45:01] planning tax administration
[5:45:14] .
[5:45:16] Real estate is a negative
[5:45:18] amortization does not bring
[5:45:20] economic growth to the county
[5:45:21] more houses more houses
[5:45:22] changing the rural present
[5:45:24] density zoning to what's called
[5:45:26] moral planned master
[5:45:31] development the next seven
[5:45:39] applicants are still 1000
[5:45:41] houses is 150. The next guy has
[5:45:42] 24th yes 476.
[5:45:46] Too much is too much more
[5:45:47] housing for housing is not
[5:45:52] bringing a relief to the
[5:45:53] problem houses do not bring
[5:45:59] economic spread the more houses
[5:46:00] will not bring down the price
[5:46:02] of the house. The builder wants
[5:46:04] to maximize their
[5:46:05] profitability.
[5:46:06] We can build and build and we
[5:46:08] destroy the whole question
[5:46:09] prince william county.
[5:46:16] >> Chair Jefferson: I am sorry
[5:46:18] just say your name and we
[5:46:19] reside woman temporally set.
[5:46:21] >> my name is paul short I
[5:46:21] reside on
[5:46:22] the brentsville
[5:46:24] district and owls nest road.
[5:46:25] >> Chair Jefferson: next
[5:46:27] speaker sacred name when you
[5:46:31] reside is a county attorney who
[5:46:33] will look at me if we don't do
[5:46:33] it.
[5:46:35] >> did you get my name is amy
[5:46:37] crosby a live-in respect to the
[5:46:39] principal district I do think
[5:46:40] this the right location I
[5:46:42] believe that because I know
[5:46:48] vint hill myself we currently
[5:46:50] bulkier from prince william
[5:46:51] county almost 5 years he's been
[5:46:53] a mechanic it's the right
[5:46:55] location because what I'm
[5:46:56] seeing more often than not is
[5:46:59] families phaseout which is what
[5:47:00] I believe I wrote inside the in
[5:47:02] the article it was the family
[5:47:03] please outperforming and no
[5:47:05] longer want to do that all the
[5:47:07] current residents MAY want to
[5:47:09] hold off and not want that was
[5:47:10] to save their children will
[5:47:12] want to maintain at the same
[5:47:13] location in 20 or 30 years we
[5:47:15] don't have any homes we could
[5:47:17] have data centers as atrocious
[5:47:19] it is a great location however
[5:47:20] the traffic study I think the
[5:47:22] biggest key here vint hill road
[5:47:24] is a dangerous road and I do
[5:47:26] think infrastructure needs to
[5:47:27] change regardless of these
[5:47:29] homes coming in I think it's
[5:47:31] been dangerous for a while hope
[5:47:33] you guys will look at that also
[5:47:36] look at the water rollins horde
[5:47:38] that can be a great area of
[5:47:39] connection I think that needs
[5:47:41] to be figured in with
[5:47:42] connecting doors and eminent
[5:47:44] domain is the lower part of the
[5:47:46] water brought right which no
[5:47:48] bridges in over it so it can
[5:47:49] connect and people can go a
[5:47:51] different way that would help
[5:47:51] ease congestion.
[5:47:53] Then looking at lake manassas
[5:47:55] is used for the city of
[5:47:56] manassas could be used to help
[5:47:58] water with the prince william
[5:48:00] water on the side of the county
[5:48:02] and the way thank you again
[5:48:07] this was a great first meeting
[5:48:08] for me hope to see you again
[5:48:09] soon.
[5:48:10] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:48:12] very much if you want to join
[5:48:13] to frequent flyer,
[5:48:14] it's free to
[5:48:15] join up thank you for everybody
[5:48:16] who is
[5:48:17] come out and spoken to
[5:48:19] have anybody from remote.
[5:48:20] >> we have one person from
[5:48:21] remote.
[5:48:22] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:48:24] guess we do please proceed
[5:48:24] .
[5:48:24] >>.
[5:48:26] [Listing names] Can you hear
[5:48:26] me.
[5:48:28] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:48:29] yes I can hear you.
[5:48:29] > just
[5:48:31] making sure I just wanted to
[5:48:32] make two brief comments one I
[5:48:34] didn't hear any discussion of
[5:48:38] housing cost or hoa fees for
[5:48:39] this project. Maybe I missed
[5:48:41] it. And number two I want to
[5:48:50] read from the planning
[5:48:51] commission meeting JULY 27,
[5:49:02] 2022 cpa 2022 000 teen devlin
[5:49:04] technology park recommended for
[5:49:06] approval motion made by
[5:49:08] commissioner gordy seconded by
[5:49:09] Mcphail then the subsequent
[5:49:12] rezoning 2022-000 22 devlin
[5:49:14] technology park motion for
[5:49:17] approval made by commissioner
[5:49:20] gordy seconded by commissioner
[5:49:22] Mcphail.
[5:49:24] I do have a problem with the
[5:49:25] data centers on linton hall
[5:49:25] road.
[5:49:27] I also remember how they got
[5:49:33] there thanks so much you'll
[5:49:34] have a great night.
[5:49:35] >> Chair Jefferson:
[5:49:37] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:49:39] thank you MS. Carol and the
[5:49:39] others online.
[5:49:45] >> vice chair no other speakers
[5:49:45] .
[5:49:47] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:49:48] thank you very much for your
[5:49:49] help.
[5:49:50] >> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:49:52] very much everyone who is come
[5:49:53] up to speak to escrow can
[5:52:10] >> Chair Jefferson: we are back
[5:52:13] from closed session I need a
[5:52:26] motion to certify.
[5:52:27] let's go ahead and
[5:52:29] take a vote.
[5:52:29] >> vote unanimous.
[5:52:29] >>
[5:52:31] Chair Jefferson: we have two
[5:52:33] motions we are going to make a
[5:52:34] percent supervisor bailey.
[5:52:36] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:52:37] thank you bencher I moved to
[5:52:39] county executive annual
[5:52:40] performance review and
[5:52:41] compensation adjustment.
[5:52:42] >> Kenny Boddye: I
[5:52:43] second the
[5:52:43] motion.
[5:52:45] > Chair Jefferson:
[5:52:46] let's take our vote.
[5:52:46] >>
[5:52:47] vote unanimous
[5:52:48] supervisor
[5:52:50] stuart abstaining from the vote
[5:52:50] .
[5:52:51] >> Chair Jefferson: in the
[5:52:52] second.
[5:52:54] >> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: of
[5:52:55] the county attorney's annual
[5:52:58] performance review and
[5:52:58] compensation adjustment.
[5:53:00] >> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[5:53:00] motion.
[5:53:03] > Chair
[5:53:03] Jefferson:
[5:53:04] let's take our vote.
[5:53:06] Vote unanimous supervisor
[5:53:08] stuart abstaining from the
[5:53:08] vote.
[5:53:10] >> Chair Jefferson: a most
[5:53:11] important vote of the evening
[5:53:13] is to adjourn for an.
[5:53:15] >> motion to adjourn.
[5:53:18] [Laughter]
[5:53:19] >> Tom Gordy: I make a motion
[5:53:20] to approve.
[5:53:22] >> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[5:53:33] motion
[5:53:34] .
[5:53:35] >> vote unanimous.