1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,680 All right, I call to order the regular city council 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,680 meeting for August 18, 2026. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,800 City clerk roll call, please. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Council members, Breitenbucher. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Here. 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Halford. 7 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,100 Here. 8 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:12,680 Morowit. 9 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,180 Here. 10 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:14,600 Vice Mayor Lackey. 11 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,580 Here. 12 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:19,800 We'll move on to the next item, which is invocation and flag 13 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:19,580 salute. 14 00:00:19,580 --> 00:00:26,780 And we are here with Mrs. Marcia Munroe from the Baha'i Faith. 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,120 [INAUDIBLE] 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,120 --the republic, one nation, under God, indivisible-- 17 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:44,140 [INAUDIBLE] 18 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:33,130 Thank you. 19 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:37,490 We will go ahead and move on to agenda review 20 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:39,500 and supplemental reports. 21 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:41,950 Mayor and council, we have the following supplemental reports. 22 00:02:41,950 --> 00:02:46,330 Communication received from the public for item C.15 Petition 23 00:02:46,330 --> 00:02:49,930 and communications received from the public for item D.2. 24 00:02:49,930 --> 00:02:54,450 Communications received from the public for item D.5. 25 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:58,380 And an updated PowerPoint for item D.4 from city staff. 26 00:02:58,380 --> 00:03:00,740 As for agenda review, all city council meetings 27 00:03:00,740 --> 00:03:02,860 shall be conducted in orderly and efficient manner 28 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:04,900 without willful disruption by any person 29 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:06,780 or persons in attendance. 30 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:09,220 The city has also adopted a decorum policy 31 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:11,300 that governs public meetings, which 32 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:13,860 states that all city council meeting attendees shall refrain 33 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:17,100 from behavior that disrupts or that threatens to disrupt 34 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:19,100 city government operations. 35 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:21,980 This includes, but is not limited to harassment 36 00:03:21,980 --> 00:03:24,880 and/or intimidation of city staff, elected officials, 37 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,700 or members of the public. 38 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:28,500 Please be advised that should a disruption 39 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,600 occur, a member of the city council 40 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,600 shall issue the person or persons an initial warning. 41 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Should a second disruption occur by the same person or persons, 42 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,500 a member of the city council shall ask the person or persons 43 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:40,380 to leave the meeting. 44 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:42,700 And Mayor and council [INAUDIBLE]. 45 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:45,820 All right, thank you, city clerk. 46 00:03:45,820 --> 00:03:48,540 Go ahead and move on to the next section, which is disclosure 47 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:50,120 of ex parte communication. 48 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Anything from the council? 49 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,990 OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and head over down here 50 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:57,410 for presentations. 51 00:03:57,410 --> 00:03:59,110 If the council can join me. 52 00:03:59,110 --> 00:04:01,110 First one. 53 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:04,950 A.1, proclamation proclaiming August 2 through 8th, 54 00:04:05,290 --> 00:04:08,290 2026 as national health center week. 55 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:11,590 We have the director of government and community affairs 56 00:04:11,590 --> 00:04:16,390 at Golden Valley Health centers to accept tonight. 57 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:51,710 Not yet. 58 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:53,710 Not yet. 59 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:58,390 Whereas community health centers have 60 00:04:58,390 --> 00:05:01,370 been providing high quality, affordable, comprehensive, 61 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:06,210 primary and preventive health care for more than 60 years, 62 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:08,930 positively impacting America's health care system. 63 00:05:08,930 --> 00:05:10,930 And-- 64 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:14,950 Whereas community health centers now serve more than 52 million 65 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:19,300 Americans at over 17,000 service delivery sites across 66 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,430 the country, providing care to individuals and families from 67 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:25,890 all walks of life, regardless of background, income, 68 00:05:25,890 --> 00:05:28,430 insurance status or ability to pay. 69 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:30,430 And-- 70 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:33,590 Whereas Golden Valley Health centers has served as a trusted 71 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:37,790 provider in California's Central Valley since 1972, today, 72 00:05:37,950 --> 00:05:41,450 it operates 50 locations across Merced, San Joaquin, 73 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:45,500 Stanislaus counties in delivering more than 786,000 74 00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:48,390 visits to over 161,000 patients annually. 75 00:05:49,370 --> 00:05:51,370 And-- 76 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:54,380 Whereas during national health center week, 77 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:57,400 we celebrate the legacy of America's community health 78 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,180 centers and their vital role in shaping the past, present, 79 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:02,940 and future of America's health care system. 80 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:04,940 And-- 81 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,100 Now, therefore, I Gary Singh, mayor of the city of Manteca, 82 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:12,400 on behalf of the city council, do hereby recognize August 2 83 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,600 through the 8th, 2026 as National Health Center Week. 84 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,280 I encourage all residents to learn 85 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,400 about the support and essential services 86 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,880 provided by Golden Valley Health centers 87 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,680 and other community health centers in our community. 88 00:06:34,922 --> 00:06:35,880 Would you like to step? 89 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,880 Yes. 90 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,420 Hi. 91 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:40,740 My name is [INAUDIBLE]. 92 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:43,640 I'm the center manager for Golden Valley Health Care Center 93 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,960 here in Manteca. 94 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,680 We do have two locations, one for family medicine 95 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,970 at 302 Northgate Drive, which offers pediatrician and family 96 00:06:51,970 --> 00:06:53,170 med services. 97 00:06:53,170 --> 00:06:56,210 And then we have an urgent care services 98 00:06:56,210 --> 00:06:58,850 located at 250 Northgate Drive, where 99 00:06:58,850 --> 00:07:00,590 we offer urgent care services. 100 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:03,290 We just extended our hours until 9:00 PM. 101 00:07:03,290 --> 00:07:06,250 And we also offer same day sports 102 00:07:06,250 --> 00:07:09,130 physicals for the kids who are playing sports this year. 103 00:07:09,130 --> 00:07:11,730 So you guys can come and stop on by if you have children 104 00:07:11,730 --> 00:07:13,370 that need to have those done. 105 00:07:13,370 --> 00:07:15,100 Also, I wanted to mention that we 106 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:18,410 did expand our PACE program for our elderly patients 107 00:07:18,410 --> 00:07:20,430 to the San Joaquin County area. 108 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:25,230 So Manteca patients are also covered by PACE. 109 00:07:25,870 --> 00:07:27,870 [APPLAUSE] 110 00:08:01,170 --> 00:08:04,410 That will bring us to item A.2, certificates of recognition 111 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:08,410 presented to American Legion Auxiliary Girls State Conference 112 00:08:08,410 --> 00:08:09,750 participants. 113 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:15,150 Tonight, we have American Legion Auxiliary delegates to accept. 114 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:21,530 All right, so first one is Adriana Rattaro. 115 00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:28,570 Udyati Tewai. 116 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,100 Come on up. 117 00:08:42,274 --> 00:08:44,274 [SIDE CONVERSATION] 118 00:08:54,743 --> 00:08:59,543 Do you want to come up too, Chris? 119 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:08,700 All right, this is certificate of recognition 120 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:10,780 presented to Udyati Tewai. 121 00:09:10,780 --> 00:09:13,740 The Manteca City Council proudly recognizes you 122 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:17,380 for being selected as Sierra High School's representative 123 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:21,600 to attend the American Legion Auxiliary Girls State 124 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,260 Conference. 125 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:25,160 This prestigious selection reflects your leadership, 126 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,700 character, and dedication to civic involvement. 127 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:31,700 Congratulations on this outstanding achievement 128 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:36,260 and for representing your school and community with pride. 129 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:37,860 Go, Timberwolves. 130 00:09:37,860 --> 00:09:39,860 [APPLAUSE] 131 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:50,310 Did you want to say anything? 132 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:51,370 I knew you would. 133 00:09:51,370 --> 00:09:52,750 [LAUGHTER] 134 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:54,750 There's nobody watching. 135 00:09:55,630 --> 00:09:58,630 And this is for Adriana. 136 00:09:58,750 --> 00:10:01,150 Thank you so much. 137 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:04,470 Do you want to talk a little bit about the program 138 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:06,870 and what it is? 139 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:10,950 So the American Legion Auxiliary has 140 00:10:10,950 --> 00:10:15,450 been sending girls to Girls State for the last 83 years, 141 00:10:15,450 --> 00:10:16,230 I believe. 142 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:19,630 And we have been able, through in Manteca, 143 00:10:19,630 --> 00:10:23,310 to send a girl from all five of our high schools. 144 00:10:23,310 --> 00:10:28,110 We do this total by charitable donations, which 145 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:30,190 we work all year to raise. 146 00:10:30,190 --> 00:10:32,830 So it's a week long conference, where they 147 00:10:32,830 --> 00:10:34,650 learn about state government. 148 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:40,500 They form cities, and city councils, and so on. 149 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,300 [APPLAUSE] 150 00:10:50,470 --> 00:10:54,700 Wait, group picture, so one more. 151 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:07,150 [APPLAUSE] 152 00:11:20,453 --> 00:11:21,870 All right, mayor and council, that 153 00:11:21,870 --> 00:11:24,750 will bring us to item A3, which is receive 154 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:28,310 a brief presentation regarding the Community Budget Engagement 155 00:11:28,310 --> 00:11:32,430 Initiative, including a public survey and upcoming workshops. 156 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:34,750 Tonight we have budget manager, Lana McBroom, 157 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:38,950 to present that brief presentation for you. 158 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:44,730 Good evening, mayor and council. 159 00:11:44,730 --> 00:11:47,840 Tonight, I'm introducing finance's new Community Budget 160 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Engagement Initiative, which includes an online survey 161 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,240 and follow up workshops. 162 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,480 We're gathering information for input before fiscal year 163 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,440 '28 recommendations are developed 164 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,760 so community priorities can be considered earlier 165 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,440 in the process. 166 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Responses will help us design workshops 167 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,440 around the budget topics and questions 168 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,960 that residents want to explore. 169 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,120 This earlier, broader engagement supports transparency 170 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,720 and expands our public engagement practices. 171 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,840 The survey asks which city services and priorities 172 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,840 matter most. 173 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Sorry. 174 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,200 Where future resources could make the greatest difference 175 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 and how residents envision Manteca's future. 176 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,740 The survey is open through August 31. 177 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:40,160 You can use the online link found 178 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,840 on the city of Manteca budget's page 179 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,810 or you can scan the QR code that is on the screen. 180 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:51,970 After the survey closes, staff will summarize the key themes 181 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:53,650 and help shape September workshops 182 00:12:53,650 --> 00:12:56,130 and guide future council discussions. 183 00:12:56,130 --> 00:12:58,610 Results are one source of community input, not 184 00:12:58,610 --> 00:13:00,690 a final budget decision. 185 00:13:00,690 --> 00:13:02,970 Final priorities and appropriations 186 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:06,330 remain subject to available resources, legal requirements 187 00:13:06,330 --> 00:13:08,970 and, of course, council action. 188 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:11,530 We have some flyers on the back table. 189 00:13:11,530 --> 00:13:14,810 And you can also scan the QR code that is on the screen. 190 00:13:14,810 --> 00:13:17,630 We want to thank everyone for their participation. 191 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:19,890 And we look forward to continuing the conversation 192 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:21,410 at upcoming workshops. 193 00:13:21,410 --> 00:13:23,100 Thank you. 194 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:24,110 Thank you. 195 00:13:24,110 --> 00:13:26,110 [APPLAUSE] 196 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:31,210 Thank you all for doing this, and also 197 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:36,100 getting this going for asking for community output. 198 00:13:37,490 --> 00:13:39,900 All right, with that, we'll go ahead 199 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:42,163 and move on to section B, which is public comments. 200 00:13:42,163 --> 00:13:44,330 Mayor, at this time, you may call for public comment 201 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:47,330 for items not listed on the agenda. 202 00:13:47,330 --> 00:13:49,570 Via Zoom, webinar, or in person, public comment 203 00:13:49,570 --> 00:13:53,770 is limited to three minutes per person. 204 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:57,610 All right, let's start with Zoom. 205 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,100 I have attendees, but no hands raised. 206 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:14,390 OK, nobody on Zoom. 207 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:15,670 Do you have any comment cards? 208 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:20,250 The first comment card I have is Brad. 209 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:23,250 Brad, come on up, sir. 210 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,520 How's that? 211 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,520 Good? 212 00:14:49,608 --> 00:14:50,400 Go ahead and start. 213 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Howdy, man. 214 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,780 Hello. 215 00:14:52,780 --> 00:14:56,380 So what do we do here? 216 00:14:56,620 --> 00:15:00,160 Yeah, you have time and anything you would like to tell us. 217 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,680 I got to push a button? 218 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,980 Nope, just start talking. 219 00:15:02,980 --> 00:15:04,980 OK, terrific. 220 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:07,180 Yeah, I just here-- basically I'll 221 00:15:07,180 --> 00:15:09,200 get to the nut in the shell. 222 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,100 I'm here to complain about the systemic pattern 223 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:16,900 of non-compliance with ADA violations, especially Title II. 224 00:15:18,340 --> 00:15:23,740 And I think it would be under Chapter 28, Section 35 1.51, 225 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,620 as well as Chapter 24, part 2 chapter-- 226 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:39,780 actually, part 2 and section 11b 705 of the California Building 227 00:15:42,430 --> 00:15:46,630 Code, as well as California Civil Code 54. 228 00:15:47,950 --> 00:15:50,250 And it's been a systemic problem with this city. 229 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:52,590 I've been here since 1973. 230 00:15:52,590 --> 00:15:55,230 And I watched the ADA grow up around me. 231 00:15:55,230 --> 00:15:59,850 And the noncompliance and the systemic pattern of-- 232 00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:03,310 I don't know if you want to call it obfuscating, or deflecting, 233 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,310 or just noncompliance as you go down 234 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:11,710 the road doing a certain repavement projects and things. 235 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:14,330 But there is an ongoing pattern. 236 00:16:14,330 --> 00:16:18,900 I've got a list of about 35 right here that I've done. 237 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,910 And I could do this seven days a week, 24/7, 238 00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:23,370 which I probably will be doing. 239 00:16:23,370 --> 00:16:25,210 And I'll be filing formal grievances. 240 00:16:25,210 --> 00:16:27,470 I just wanted this on the public record 241 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:30,610 because there could be a injunctive order issued, 242 00:16:30,610 --> 00:16:32,830 possibly down the road. 243 00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:37,700 So I highly recommend the city get very active 244 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:41,270 and show proactive action, some issues taken 245 00:16:43,630 --> 00:16:46,550 care of immediately and specifically the golf 246 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:48,950 course, who violate my civil rights, 247 00:16:48,950 --> 00:16:51,370 as well as the folks behind me back here. 248 00:16:51,370 --> 00:16:54,270 If you could see them in kind of shortened wheelchairs. 249 00:16:54,270 --> 00:16:56,910 But anyways, it's not only me, it's 250 00:16:56,910 --> 00:16:59,230 the disabled community wide at large. 251 00:16:59,230 --> 00:17:02,170 Not me, it's the blind, and disabled, the hearing, 252 00:17:02,170 --> 00:17:03,510 whatever it may be. 253 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:09,270 But absolutely, they need to so show some actionable results 254 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:11,230 on what they're going to do about the problems 255 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:13,630 that I've been bringing to the city. 256 00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:14,810 And there's more to come. 257 00:17:14,810 --> 00:17:17,210 A lot of it. 258 00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:17,950 So 259 00:17:17,950 --> 00:17:19,450 I got about 48 seconds. 260 00:17:19,450 --> 00:17:22,569 I would like to mention that over here, for instance, 261 00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:27,369 on 2010, the ADA Title II Standard of Building 262 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:31,470 was implemented in March 15 of 2012. 263 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:36,910 And Northgate Commons is in direct violation 264 00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:40,240 with the workout equipment because it's not mirroring 265 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,320 exactly like it is. 266 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,200 I go 4 miles each direction to work out at Woodward Park daily. 267 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,880 And I would recommend anybody within city council chambers 268 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,240 that's interested in my issue, I can be contacted and found 269 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,440 very easily through the City of Manteca or any other spot. 270 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,680 And that's about all I need to say. 271 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,500 And if anybody's got any questions, feel free to answer. 272 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,900 But there's time constraints. 273 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:03,220 So I know you guys got budget constraints too, 274 00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:06,120 but that's not relevant according to ADA. 275 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:07,800 Thank you. 276 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Thank you, sir. 277 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,280 The next public comment card I have is Darryl. 278 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,920 I don't know if I can do this very fast either. 279 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,120 I totally support what he's referring to. 280 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Anyway, I got some work for the City of Manteca 281 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,250 on behalf of Union Pacific Railroad and particularly 282 00:18:36,250 --> 00:18:37,430 their police department. 283 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:41,250 And I've talked to officers of our department. 284 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:46,890 And we'd very much like you guys to trim the oleander bushes 285 00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:52,190 over there off of Manteca Avenue and Yosemite Avenue 286 00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:55,100 over there at the railroad crossings, which 287 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,610 is city property. 288 00:18:56,610 --> 00:18:59,410 And the thing I want to bring out 289 00:18:59,410 --> 00:19:04,170 is they have to be able to see down at the Center Street 290 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:07,490 crossing when they do their patrols. 291 00:19:07,490 --> 00:19:09,690 And I wanted to mention, too, that there's 292 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:13,770 a sidewalk that's broken that the city is not fixed. 293 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:17,370 It's about 25 feet to the crossing. 294 00:19:17,650 --> 00:19:20,650 I have a real problem on my scooter 295 00:19:20,650 --> 00:19:21,990 trying to dump over that way. 296 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:27,170 But sometimes I have to get over for people coming my direction 297 00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:30,100 and trying to watch the traffic, the trains, 298 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,170 and get over for everybody. 299 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:35,810 And it should have been fixed a long time ago. 300 00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:41,810 But anyway, I'm sure that we'll get the proper cooperation 301 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,450 on that, if you guys would. 302 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:49,850 The next is noise ordinance regarding motels and hotels. 303 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:56,130 And we've had a problem with one of the guys 304 00:19:56,130 --> 00:20:01,370 out there at the inn motel, actually, my neighbor in room 305 00:20:01,370 --> 00:20:02,610 11. 306 00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:05,130 Anyway, I looked up the city ordinance 307 00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:06,950 because when I first moved there, 308 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:12,500 we had a situation that the rules of the place 309 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:16,530 was on the city-- on the ordinance on noise. 310 00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:22,330 You couldn't run your TV from 10 o'clock at night till, I think, 311 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:25,930 it's 8 o'clock in the morning, currently. 312 00:20:26,530 --> 00:20:28,930 Anyway, that was put in. 313 00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:34,330 It wasn't a rule that the park outfit had 314 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:37,600 or the motel management had. 315 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,820 This is actually Manteca city law. 316 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:48,200 I don't have the exact update on what the current thing is. 317 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:55,530 What I'd like for you guys to do is pass an ordinance with that 318 00:20:55,530 --> 00:20:57,220 that if somebody is going to use either a television 319 00:20:57,220 --> 00:21:02,760 set or a radio, that they either have to use after 10 o'clock, 320 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,780 that they have to use either a plug-in headphones. 321 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:13,380 And that they have these other wireless ones now on Bluetooth, 322 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:16,240 if you have the TV that will operate off that. 323 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,220 Most of the new ones do. 324 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:22,900 That way, if a person does run their TV all night 325 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:27,700 or whatever the other person don't hear it. 326 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:33,630 Reason I mentioned that was that that place was built in 1929. 327 00:21:33,630 --> 00:21:34,130 Sir. 328 00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:36,130 [INAUDIBLE] no soundproofing? 329 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:38,330 Yes, sir. 330 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:40,710 Sir, you're three minutes, 331 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:43,270 And I had some other safety-- 332 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:45,270 Thanks. 333 00:21:49,490 --> 00:21:54,890 The next public comment card I have is Mike. 334 00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:07,630 Good evening. 335 00:22:07,630 --> 00:22:08,950 My name is Mike DeAnda. 336 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:12,910 I'm the senior business rep for Operating Engineers Local 3. 337 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:17,190 As you know, labor contract negotiations have stalled. 338 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:18,990 This year's classification comp study 339 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:22,110 identified many classifications well below market 340 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:24,550 due to the subpar wages given in the past 341 00:22:24,550 --> 00:22:26,470 and takeaways the city asked the employees 342 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:31,800 to sacrifice due to their poor fiscal position. 343 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,300 In comparison to other similar cities, 344 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,548 the city needs to bring their wages up to market 345 00:22:35,548 --> 00:22:37,840 and structure these increases so they don't fall behind 346 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,260 during the duration of this contract. 347 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:42,280 Without a fare increase, many of our members 348 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,800 salaries will fall behind the market 349 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,960 this year because the proposed three-year increase structure 350 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,400 does not account for wage increases already being 351 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,360 paid by the comparable agencies and the current inflation 352 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,360 numbers. 353 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Again, the current offer has a structure 354 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,920 that will ensure the workers, their salaries 355 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,200 won't fall behind, as they have in the last 10 years, 356 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,760 due to the COLAs that were well below the CPI numbers. 357 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,380 Currently, the city has proposed increases starting at 2%. 358 00:23:11,380 --> 00:23:14,800 Again, well below the inflation rate. 359 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,480 Meanwhile, management was given raises up to or above 20%. 360 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,560 We want the same method of the wage increases management 361 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,920 recently received-- increase the low end of the wages being 362 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,800 offered to at least match the current inflation rate. 363 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,640 No percentage cap in each year and front load 364 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,640 the wages in year one. 365 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,360 If no changes are made, our members and your employees 366 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,920 will be performing their same essential duties with less 367 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,880 spending power than before. 368 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,640 This will or may force the skilled workforce out 369 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,520 of their jobs, which will reflect negatively on the city. 370 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,920 Back in 2008 and the years to follow, 371 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,920 the current negotiations-- 372 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,000 back in 2008 and the years to follow 373 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840 showed significant losses and wages to the employees. 374 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,120 And the message I want to get today 375 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,860 is the current negotiations is not about just negotiations. 376 00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:17,720 It's about the past increases that were below market 377 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,200 and lacked increases with no raises. 378 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,440 During the 2008 recession, after year one 379 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,680 of the contract, which was 4% a year, 380 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,850 the employees were asked by the city 381 00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:32,750 to sacrifice three years of wages totaling 12%. 382 00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:34,690 This also included furloughs. 383 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,300 The city stated they would make up these cuts, 384 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,290 but they were forgotten and never happened. 385 00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:41,570 So this is the history we want you to understand what 386 00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:43,970 this current negotiations is. 387 00:24:45,370 --> 00:24:48,900 The employees request to catch up and stay caught up 388 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,370 during the duration of this proposed contract. 389 00:24:51,370 --> 00:24:55,450 You have the opportunity today to make sure these workers who 390 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:57,610 have been pushed aside for too long, 391 00:24:57,610 --> 00:24:59,530 receive the respect they deserve. 392 00:24:59,530 --> 00:25:01,500 These workers have done their part 393 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:05,210 to create a stronger future for the city and its citizens. 394 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:08,450 And we now respectfully request you do the same. 395 00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:10,450 [APPLAUSE] 396 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:24,450 The next public comment card we have is Troy. 397 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:36,400 Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members. 398 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,320 My name is Troy Stine. 399 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,737 I am the CEO and founder of Stop Human Trafficking, 400 00:25:40,737 --> 00:25:42,820 an organization that serves right here in Northern 401 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:44,820 California and tries to eradicate 402 00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:48,420 human trafficking of every kind, including labor trafficking, sex 403 00:25:48,420 --> 00:25:52,200 trafficking, organ trafficking, and benefits trafficking. 404 00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:54,460 One in six. 405 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:58,000 One in six teenagers, stats will tell us, 406 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,180 are currently being exploited online, one in six. 407 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:04,860 The trauma and the pain, the relationship 408 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:09,140 and family problems that awaits them if it is not interrupted 409 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:10,820 is vast. 410 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:13,540 Not to mention a lot of tears. 411 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:16,600 I've served for many years in various capacities 412 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,440 in the fight against human trafficking, 413 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,580 a lot of which was focused on the restoration 414 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,220 of the victimized. 415 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:24,900 I heard the stories. 416 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,940 I saw the agony and the anguish they 417 00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,940 experienced and certainly the tears. 418 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:34,400 In May of 2025, just a little over a year ago, 419 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,740 I launched stop human trafficking because we must 420 00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:41,420 alert our citizens and train our professionals to recognize 421 00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:45,220 the flags, the signs, and the tactics of human trafficking 422 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:49,580 and exploitation before another young person is exploited 423 00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:51,780 or, God forbid, even trafficked. 424 00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:54,300 Recently, right here in Manteca, I was able to speak-- 425 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:57,200 we've currently done over 50 town hall meetings 426 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,400 and presentations in just the last year, 427 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,940 with distributing over 10,000 resources and worked with a lot 428 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:05,600 of various community agencies. 429 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,480 I was at the Thomas Toy Center. 430 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,745 There was just about 31 kids. 431 00:27:07,745 --> 00:27:09,120 There wasn't a lot of kids there. 432 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,500 But at the end of that presentation called 433 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,140 Teen Empowerment Online Safety Strategies, 434 00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:16,308 it was discovered that four young people were 435 00:27:16,308 --> 00:27:18,100 being exploited online and they didn't even 436 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:24,470 know that was happening to them until they were taught about it. 437 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:26,470 And the tears. 438 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:30,590 We want freedom for all young people, which is why I'm here, 439 00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:34,110 today, promoting an awareness event that we are hosting right 440 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:37,830 here in Manteca on Saturday, November the 7th. 441 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:41,250 It will be held at the Library Park, starting there. 442 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:42,870 It's called the Freedom Walk. 443 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,790 And I am asking for your support and for you 444 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:48,750 to help me get the word out for this powerful community 445 00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:52,310 awareness event, where together we will walk one mile. 446 00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:55,810 And we will share signs, homemade, and so forth, 447 00:27:55,810 --> 00:27:59,310 not in protest but in awareness, that human trafficking is taking 448 00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:01,130 place right here at home. 449 00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:06,350 We must, get the word out and we must support our community. 450 00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:09,170 While we serve all 48 counties in Northern California, 451 00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:09,930 I live here. 452 00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:11,750 I've lived here for about 18 years. 453 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:14,590 My four daughters live here with their husbands and my eight 454 00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:15,690 grandchildren. 455 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:19,630 And it is imperative to me that we stop human trafficking. 456 00:28:19,630 --> 00:28:22,710 I'm going to present to you, in just a moment, a folder that 457 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:24,865 has some information, as well as a flyer in it. 458 00:28:24,865 --> 00:28:26,240 And as I present this to you, I'm 459 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,370 also going to give you a little jar. 460 00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:29,620 I've been a Christian for a long time. 461 00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:31,780 The Bible says that God stores our tears in a jar, 462 00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:34,640 and I would like that jar for these young people to be empty. 463 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Thank you. 464 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,840 [APPLAUSE] 465 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:48,980 Thank you sir. 466 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:53,500 And yes, we definitely will help promote the event. 467 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,280 And we would love for human trafficking 468 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880 to stop, especially in our city. 469 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,920 The next public comment card I have is Jennifer. 470 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Hello, I'm back. 471 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,900 Good afternoon or evening, I should say. 472 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:17,260 My name is Jennifer Greenwood. 473 00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:20,480 I am a resident of Manteca, as well as the city employee 474 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,240 of more than 21 years. 475 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,840 And I'm currently the president of the Manteca Technical Support 476 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Services Association or as we know, MTSSA. 477 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,860 I'm here tonight as a spokesperson for our membership, 478 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:35,500 if I can get them to please stand. 479 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,540 Not on behalf of myself. 480 00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:40,120 I am one vote, just like every other member. 481 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,400 MTSSA represents a wide range of positions in every department 482 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,680 in the city. 483 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Our jobs may be different, but our members 484 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,140 are united in their concerns about wages, recruitment, 485 00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:54,400 retention, and the future of our workforce. 486 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800 Before negotiations began, we asked our membership 487 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600 to submit their priorities. 488 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,660 They were more vocal than they have been in previous years. 489 00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:04,680 And from that process came 19 proposals. 490 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,160 And getting our membership heard was a priority. 491 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,760 MTSSA voted down our city's proposal in May. 492 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,560 The primary concern was that the proposed 2% to 7% increases 493 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,130 do not provide a COLA equally across the board. 494 00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:23,490 Some positions would receive a 2% per year. 495 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:26,490 Most positions would be brought to median market over three 496 00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:28,650 years but without a COLA. 497 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:31,410 And seven positions currently representing four employees 498 00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:33,370 would not reach full median. 499 00:30:33,370 --> 00:30:34,970 That means three years from now, we 500 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:36,890 could be right back where we started, 501 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:39,690 falling behind the market without a true cost of living 502 00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:40,850 adjustment. 503 00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:43,250 Inflation is currently approximately 3.8%, 504 00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:47,610 while many of the cities we compete with for employees 505 00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:49,970 are providing 3% to 4% COLAs. 506 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:54,900 The Gallagher report itself recognized that its market 507 00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,690 data would no longer accurately reflect those changes as of July 508 00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:59,690 1, 2026. 509 00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:03,850 I also want to clarify our total compensation. 510 00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:07,450 MTSSA does not receive certification pay 511 00:31:07,570 --> 00:31:08,890 or an annual stipend. 512 00:31:08,890 --> 00:31:10,890 And we did not get a reduction in the percentage 513 00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:13,450 of what we contribute to our PERS retirement. 514 00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:15,330 We do receive wellness hours, which 515 00:31:15,330 --> 00:31:18,410 were provided in lieu of additional personal income 516 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,410 in previous contract. 517 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,500 We are grateful to be in the upper echelon 518 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:24,860 when it comes to benefits, but those benefits 519 00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:27,200 were factored in into the compensation 520 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,900 offer from the city. 521 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,700 It was recently reported that five of the seven bargaining 522 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:32,980 units have signed. 523 00:31:32,980 --> 00:31:34,700 The other side of the story is that two 524 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,100 of the units that have not signed 525 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,620 represent more than 200 employees or over 40% 526 00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:43,200 of the city's full time workforce. 527 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,420 And I think it needs-- 528 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:46,980 we need to be honest about the larger picture. 529 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:50,600 And I'm quoting you cannot substantially increase 530 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,580 compensation at the top, build out administration, 531 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:56,180 and repeatedly ask residents to pay more, 532 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:59,300 then suddenly preach fiscal restraint when the employees 533 00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,500 keeping the city running asked to be valued. 534 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:06,700 MTSSA is not asking for proverbial key 535 00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:09,380 to the municipal cash box. 536 00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:13,920 Our current counter proposal is simple-- a 1% COLA each year, 537 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240 totaling 3% over the next three years. 538 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,300 Equaling for our membership and bringing those seven positions 539 00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:21,380 to full meeting, which is, frankly, I 540 00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:25,400 do not believe 1% is enough and, we believe, a fair compromise. 541 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,000 I'll finish up there. 542 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,420 I think we got the point. 543 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:28,393 Thank you. 544 00:32:28,393 --> 00:32:30,393 [APPLAUSE] 545 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:43,460 The last card I have is [INAUDIBLE]. 546 00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:51,200 Good evening, council. 547 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Thank you for the opportunity. 548 00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:58,900 I keep hearing that schools are not 549 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,880 the responsibility of the city. 550 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,200 It's only the MUSD. 551 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600 But I want to clarify that a misinformation is 552 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 being spread so much that-- 553 00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:13,200 let's discuss about the facts. 554 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800 The school district builds school, 555 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,750 but the sites to be provided, adequate sites 556 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:22,950 lies with the responsibility of the city. 557 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:26,950 We treat Manteca general plan as a bible. 558 00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:31,590 And there are quite a few goals which 559 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:36,990 says to provide adequate site for the neighborhood growth. 560 00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:42,310 And in two decades this has been not accomplished, 561 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:44,750 though it's there in the bible. 562 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:49,910 So let me read a couple of them which are there 563 00:33:49,910 --> 00:33:52,910 in the Manteca general plan. 564 00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:05,790 Yeah, so the goal is community design 4.7. 565 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:12,230 Each neighborhood shall include a distinct center 566 00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:14,610 such as an elementary school. 567 00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:18,960 I repeat, such as an elementary school, neighborhood parks, 568 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,800 and/or mixed use commercial area within a reasonable walking 569 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,880 distance of the homes, approximately one half mile. 570 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,340 So why is this not a walk to school? 571 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:38,840 I hear from the council, there is no walk to school at all. 572 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,600 But the Manteca general plan, I don't know when it was written. 573 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,159 And there are a couple of other goals also. 574 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,920 The goal land use 7, provide adequate land for development 575 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:56,320 of public and quasi public uses, including parks, schools, 576 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000 and community facilities to support existing 577 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,680 and new development and the community needs. 578 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,280 These goals are never followed for the two decades. 579 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480 And residents are thrown under the bus. 580 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Kids future. 581 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,160 They are commuting three to four hours for a commute to school 582 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,000 and they are being misinformed that city doesn't 583 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000 have any responsibility. 584 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,760 Please read through the Manteca general plan 585 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,400 and implement infrastructure first. 586 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:37,760 Infrastructure is not only about roads, 587 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,560 it about schools, libraries, fire station, police station, 588 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:51,000 and everything that is needed for the growth and the existing 589 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,940 facility. 590 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:53,940 Thank you. 591 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:57,420 [APPLAUSE] 592 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000 That's all the cards that have been 593 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,720 submitted for public comment. 594 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:06,840 OK, anybody else would like to speak on item 595 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,840 that's not on the agenda? 596 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,680 Come on up, sir. 597 00:36:21,970 --> 00:36:23,970 Make this short. 598 00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:30,470 My name is Frank Granelas. 599 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:32,810 I'm a resident of District 1. 600 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:36,230 First and foremost, I'd like to give these individuals here, 601 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:38,490 men and women, my empathy. 602 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:42,450 I know what it is to grind every single day to work for a city 603 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:43,830 and not be appreciated. 604 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:45,770 Sometimes we even get hurt. 605 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:46,910 Thank you for your service. 606 00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:50,450 From the police, the fire department, the people that 607 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:53,930 clean the streets, the garbage men, every single one of you. 608 00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:56,330 Never compromise your value. 609 00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,970 You bring substance and value to this community. 610 00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:02,850 You are the backbone of this community. 611 00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:04,850 [APPLAUSE] 612 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:16,100 Second of all, I'd like to just speak about the Manteca Arch. 613 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,820 Stay with me because I'm going to go somewhere with this. 614 00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:21,380 This arch that we have on Main Street 615 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:24,140 was approved by the city of Manteca, the city 616 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:27,140 manager, and the city council. 617 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:30,460 It started in September of 2025. 618 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:34,380 Somebody might ask, well, who paid for that. 619 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:37,380 Over $300,000 came from the ARPA, 620 00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:41,540 which is the American Rescue Plan Act, 621 00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:45,100 which is government funded, which means it was taxpayer 622 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,200 funded. 623 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,220 Another $300,000 came from the City General Fund, 624 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,520 which is also taxpayers' money. 625 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,380 So we paid for that arch. 626 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:08,940 In closing, if we can afford to put an arch that cost over 627 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:12,820 $600,000, then we can afford to pay these individuals what they 628 00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:14,466 are worth. 629 00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,466 [APPLAUSE] 630 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:26,140 In closing, I am not complaining, just 631 00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:28,540 simply making an observation. 632 00:38:28,595 --> 00:38:29,720 Thank you for your service. 633 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,620 I appreciate every single one of you. 634 00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:33,237 Thank you. 635 00:38:33,237 --> 00:38:35,237 [APPLAUSE] 636 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:50,100 Anyone else like to speak on an item that is not on the agenda? 637 00:38:53,200 --> 00:39:00,820 OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and move on to the next section. 638 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:11,950 All right, with that, we'll go ahead and go to consent items. 639 00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:14,695 We'll wait for room to clear. 640 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,560 All right, we're going to consent items. 641 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,560 Charlie Gina. 642 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,480 C.15. 643 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,800 OK, David and Mike. 644 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,120 C.3, C.12, C.15. 645 00:40:28,792 --> 00:40:31,192 C.3, C.12, and C.15. 646 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,960 All right, and I had C.15 also. 647 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,320 With that, I can entertain a motion for all items not pulled. 648 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,517 So moved. 649 00:40:46,517 --> 00:40:48,600 I have a motion from council member Breitenbucher. 650 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,700 A second from Council Member Halford. 651 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,800 All in favor, say aye. 652 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,180 Aye. 653 00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:53,840 Opposed? 654 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,840 Motion carries 5-0. 655 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,180 Mayor, can I get clarification that you also pulled C.15? 656 00:40:59,180 --> 00:40:59,700 Yeah. 657 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:00,900 That's the only one you pulled? 658 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:01,400 Yeah. 659 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,400 C.3. 660 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,520 All right, C.3 adopt a resolution accepting-- 661 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,640 Mayor, we also had a member of the public pull C.6 662 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,320 Oh, OK. 663 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,200 Go ahead and add that on there. 664 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,600 C.6. 665 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,440 Do we need to redo the motion or are you good? 666 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,120 As long as the maker of the motion 667 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,600 is comfortable with C.6 being pulled as well, no need. 668 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,160 OK with that, Dave? 669 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,160 C.6? 670 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,700 You made the motion. 671 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:40,200 Yeah. 672 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,180 And the second is good? 673 00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:43,180 All right. 674 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,180 C.6 goes ahead. 675 00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:49,320 C3, adopt a resolution accepting the donation 676 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,120 of one refurbished 8 by 40 insulated dog kennel container 677 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,600 from Vault, Co. 678 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,660 for use of the city's unsheltered emergency center 679 00:41:58,660 --> 00:42:00,520 and authorize the city manager or designee 680 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,840 to execute agreement in all necessary documents 681 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,450 to accept the donation. 682 00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:07,210 Tonight, we have Homeless and Housing Services Manager, 683 00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:09,210 Vielka Guarascio. 684 00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:13,350 Hi, there. 685 00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:15,250 Good evening, Mayor, Council. 686 00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:18,500 Vielka Guarascio, Homeless and Housing Services Manager. 687 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,150 I'm here to answer any questions you may have. 688 00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:23,490 But before, I want to just take this time 689 00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:28,730 and thank Vault, Co. as well as Jill for the generous donation 690 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:31,450 of the dog kennel for our unsheltered emergency 691 00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:34,810 center for unhoused, as well as a future program 692 00:42:34,810 --> 00:42:38,900 and collaboration that we are doing with hold for program 693 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:42,490 for future individuals who are seeking sober living environment 694 00:42:42,490 --> 00:42:45,950 programs or other type of programming 695 00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:48,900 and their barrier is their pet. 696 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,850 And they are unable to enter these programs because 697 00:42:51,850 --> 00:42:56,100 of finding either a family member or someone 698 00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,130 that they can trust. 699 00:42:58,130 --> 00:43:01,230 So with this dog kennel that will be going to 555, 700 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:04,100 it will allow for these individuals 701 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,260 to allow their pets to go to 555. 702 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:09,580 And our His Way Refuge Center staff 703 00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:12,553 will be the ones overseeing and taking care of their pets. 704 00:43:12,553 --> 00:43:14,220 So I definitely want to take this moment 705 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:17,940 and thank Doug and Jill for the great generosity and donation 706 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:20,340 for these dog containers. 707 00:43:20,910 --> 00:43:22,660 I don't know if you want to invite them up 708 00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:23,952 if they'd like to say anything. 709 00:43:23,952 --> 00:43:24,520 Absolutely. 710 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,300 Come on up. 711 00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:25,800 Doug. 712 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200 And Vielka, why don't you share, too-- 713 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,840 we have a lot of people here tonight. 714 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,240 We've already had a success with it. 715 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,620 And I think it's worth sharing because I think 716 00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:40,580 it's going to be a way bigger value than we're anticipating 717 00:43:40,580 --> 00:43:41,700 it to be. 718 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:42,397 Absolutely. 719 00:43:42,397 --> 00:43:43,980 Well, in the meantime, if I can please 720 00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:48,300 have Jill and Doug come up and join me. 721 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,180 You're not going to get away, Doug. 722 00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:52,180 [LAUGHTER] 723 00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:56,760 So go ahead and I will jump in. 724 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,380 So one of the things that caught us 725 00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:01,315 on this whole situation of donating a kennel-- 726 00:44:01,315 --> 00:44:02,940 I take homeless veterans off the street 727 00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:04,420 at our business in Stockton. 728 00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:06,860 And I happen to have a guy who came to me. 729 00:44:06,860 --> 00:44:09,895 And I kept wondering why he was missing his appointments. 730 00:44:09,895 --> 00:44:12,200 And I didn't understand that he didn't have anybody 731 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,320 to set his dog with. 732 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,987 And the places where they're putting him 733 00:44:14,987 --> 00:44:17,000 were these cages with plastic over them. 734 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,480 And it was a horrible situation. 735 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,400 So I own moving and portable storage. 736 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,580 So we took an old insulated 40 foot container 737 00:44:23,580 --> 00:44:26,200 and turned it into a pretty exciting dog kennel 738 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,660 that the homeless people are going 739 00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:29,540 to be able to use and put their dog in and go 740 00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:31,400 to their appointment, get them back. 741 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,340 Get them spayed and neutered, is the goal by Jill. 742 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,280 And that's the deal and helping out with the homeless program. 743 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,140 So we also build some of our containers. 744 00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:43,700 And we make them into housing. 745 00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:47,680 So you guys have taken them in nicely and it was fun to donate. 746 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,480 So we appreciate it. 747 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,880 We got more coming. 748 00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:53,940 [APPLAUSE] 749 00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:58,500 I would just like to express my gratitude 750 00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,550 to this council and the city manager 751 00:45:01,550 --> 00:45:03,950 for accepting this container. 752 00:45:06,990 --> 00:45:10,350 It's going to be life changing for people and pets. 753 00:45:10,350 --> 00:45:12,470 And I truly appreciate it. 754 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:13,390 Thank you. 755 00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:15,350 Thank you. 756 00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:16,970 Thank you. 757 00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:18,970 [APPLAUSE] 758 00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:20,610 Sorry, Mayor. 759 00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:22,847 Let me go ahead and just interject one second there. 760 00:45:22,847 --> 00:45:24,430 So I do want to take this time-- and I 761 00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:26,250 know city manager may announce this later, 762 00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:30,190 but we will be having a ribbon cutting for the dog containers, 763 00:45:30,190 --> 00:45:32,630 as well as a transitional housing containers that'll 764 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:34,170 be going on at 555. 765 00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:37,330 So that is on Wednesday, September 9 at 10:00 AM. 766 00:45:37,330 --> 00:45:40,150 So I definitely would like to invite the public 767 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:42,430 to see this ribbon cutting. 768 00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:44,710 And just to elaborate, it's just a great program 769 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:48,910 that we'll be able to initial initiate 770 00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:52,590 at 555, because we've come that with our outreach. 771 00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:55,970 And the different individuals that we are coming across, 772 00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:57,450 the barrier is their pets. 773 00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:00,560 They take care of their pets better than themselves. 774 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,200 So we're just creating this program 775 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640 to allow them to seek the services and the help 776 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,720 that they need. 777 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,960 Thank you. 778 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,320 Thank you, Vielka. 779 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,860 All right, now, let me ask council member Morowit, 780 00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:14,640 who pulled the item, if you actually 781 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,220 have questions or comments. 782 00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:17,420 Well, a lot of questions have been answered. 783 00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:19,712 I had the pleasure of meeting Doug a few weeks ago when 784 00:46:19,712 --> 00:46:21,200 I went out with city staff. 785 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,400 And we toured his business in Stockton. 786 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,520 And he had a lot of different models 787 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,100 that he used for homeless veterans, for folks. 788 00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,600 And these are just containers that are just very simple. 789 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880 But they were made into livable conditions 790 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,760 with lighting, air conditioners for people. 791 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,280 And then he showed us this very, very, very nice kennel. 792 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,120 And it was designed with air conditioning as well. 793 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,800 The floors are slatted so you could wash them down easily. 794 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,760 And then they had ropes that opened up 795 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,240 to the back of the vault of the building 796 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,680 and went outside to another enclosed area, where 797 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,320 you would feed the animals. 798 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,720 And then they would go back and forth, so that way, 799 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,240 it's basically very similar to what 800 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,480 we have in our own animal control shelter 801 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,320 that we have in Manteca. 802 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,420 And when we were talking, he was very generous with his time. 803 00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:19,840 And we had other people there. 804 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,320 And we were walking. 805 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,380 And he showed a lot of interest in this. 806 00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:26,342 And I think before we even got back to town, 807 00:47:26,342 --> 00:47:28,800 I believe, he called our city manager-- we were in the car, 808 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,300 and pretty much said, you know what? 809 00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:32,500 I'm going to donate one of these to the city. 810 00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,800 I think it's really important. 811 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,000 And I can tell you how important it 812 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,320 is because myself and Council Member Breitenbucher 813 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,720 are on the 2 by 2 homeless and housing committee. 814 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,720 And we go out on outreach every other week. 815 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,920 And we also go out once a month usually for the operations 816 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,550 quality of life operations. 817 00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:53,180 And I can tell you that the first time we did this, 818 00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:56,410 probably about three years ago, 2 and 1/2 years ago, 819 00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:59,890 we encountered a homeless individual that unfortunately 820 00:47:59,890 --> 00:48:02,210 got arrested and she had a dog. 821 00:48:02,210 --> 00:48:06,770 And it was horrible to take that dog away from her 822 00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:09,448 and separate her because she was so upset. 823 00:48:09,448 --> 00:48:10,990 She wasn't upset about going to jail. 824 00:48:10,990 --> 00:48:12,710 She understood that she had a warrant. 825 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:14,650 She was fine with that, but she wanted 826 00:48:14,650 --> 00:48:17,500 to know what's going to happen to my dog. 827 00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:21,890 And a lot of people-- so that initiated another program where 828 00:48:21,890 --> 00:48:25,930 we have animal control follow along during those enforcements 829 00:48:25,930 --> 00:48:29,850 to take the dogs away, hold them until these individuals 830 00:48:29,850 --> 00:48:32,770 can be released from jail. 831 00:48:32,770 --> 00:48:34,930 But then the other encounter is when 832 00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:39,180 we're out on these outreaches, that when people want to go 833 00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:41,310 and we tell them, hey, why don't you go to the shelter? 834 00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:42,510 Why don't you go spend the day? 835 00:48:42,510 --> 00:48:44,210 Why don't you do this, spend the night? 836 00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:45,850 Their first idea is, I don't want 837 00:48:45,850 --> 00:48:48,970 to leave my dog outside in a crappy cage, 838 00:48:48,970 --> 00:48:50,570 out in the elements. 839 00:48:50,570 --> 00:48:54,610 Well, I can tell you, that's not the situation now. 840 00:48:54,610 --> 00:48:57,460 I mean, this is no different than any other home. 841 00:48:57,460 --> 00:49:00,620 It is like some temperature controlled. 842 00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:01,960 It's safe for them. 843 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,900 They're not intermingled in little cages 844 00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:05,200 on top of other cages. 845 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,420 They're separated. 846 00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:10,180 So when we went on that tour and this gentleman, 847 00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:13,880 Doug, offered that, I think he knows what he's done. 848 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,620 But I can tell you that he's done a lot more than people 849 00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:19,340 could imagine because, like I say, 850 00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:23,185 you can't convince someone to go to a shelter for themselves 851 00:49:23,185 --> 00:49:25,560 if they don't think their animals are well taken care of. 852 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,560 So this was a big deal to get this vault delivered. 853 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,322 So I just want to say that's why I pulled it. 854 00:49:33,322 --> 00:49:34,280 Everybody looked at me. 855 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,320 Why did you pull it? 856 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,860 Because it deserves more than just that, yes, 857 00:49:37,860 --> 00:49:39,800 thanks for giving it to us. 858 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,000 It really does. 859 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,980 It really means a lot to our homeless. 860 00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:44,220 And it's going to help encourage homeless folks 861 00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:46,680 to go into the shelter with their animals, 862 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160 knowing that they're not left outside in that crappy cage, 863 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120 as I was told by this woman. 864 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,720 So thank you, I appreciate that. 865 00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:57,860 Thank you, Council Member Morowit. 866 00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:58,620 Yes. 867 00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:03,380 So I wasn't able to go to the vault, but I did go by 555 868 00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:05,680 and take a tour of the unit. 869 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,980 I had my granddaughter with me. 870 00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:09,540 And we went in there and it was nice and cool. 871 00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:11,160 It was very nice. 872 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,640 This is a refrigerated unit that they've converted. 873 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,300 And it had 10 stalls in there with doors on the side 874 00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:19,300 to go out. 875 00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:22,220 His Way is going to put artificial turf in the outside, 876 00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:24,860 so they're not on the asphalt. It was really nice. 877 00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:27,160 Today when we were out on outreach, 878 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,740 I talked to a gentleman. 879 00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:33,100 He has a job but he's trying to get a place in Tracy, a room 880 00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:33,760 to rent. 881 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,677 But he doesn't know if he can get enough hours 882 00:50:35,677 --> 00:50:36,740 to afford the room. 883 00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:38,857 And when I talked to him, go to 555. 884 00:50:38,857 --> 00:50:39,940 Have you ever tried there? 885 00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:43,380 He goes, no, I don't want my dog outside. 886 00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:45,600 So I told him, well, guess what? 887 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,340 We got that problem solved. 888 00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:50,280 We have a kennel that you can put your dog in. 889 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,527 It's air conditioned inside. 890 00:50:51,527 --> 00:50:52,360 And he goes, really? 891 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:52,930 I go, yes. 892 00:50:52,930 --> 00:50:55,290 And he goes, OK, I'd like that. 893 00:50:55,290 --> 00:50:57,850 So we're already starting to fill it up. 894 00:50:57,850 --> 00:51:00,870 So we might want to be asking for a second. 895 00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:03,910 And then I was talking to another elderly lady 896 00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:06,570 who's hardcore, doesn't want to go in because of her pet. 897 00:51:06,570 --> 00:51:10,470 Told her the same thing and she was like, OK, yes, I'm 898 00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:11,710 going to think about that. 899 00:51:11,710 --> 00:51:13,390 It gives them now an option. 900 00:51:13,390 --> 00:51:16,430 And that's great because that's more 901 00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:20,790 that we can get into the program and get them moving forward. 902 00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:21,870 So thank you. 903 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:24,510 Thank you very much for that. 904 00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:26,510 Thank you, Dave. 905 00:51:27,310 --> 00:51:29,310 Vice Mayor. 906 00:51:29,590 --> 00:51:30,910 You guys are angels. 907 00:51:30,910 --> 00:51:31,730 Seriously. 908 00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:34,190 Thank you so much for everything that you've 909 00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:37,700 done for our navigation center. 910 00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,300 To echo what the council members are saying, 911 00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,190 I was out on the quality of life operations 912 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:46,390 and spoke to a lady who has a dog. 913 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:50,510 And she would not go to 555 because why would she 914 00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:52,720 be comfortable in air conditioning 915 00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:55,400 while her pet is outside suffering? 916 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,500 And they truly do take care of their pets. 917 00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:01,200 That is their emotional support. 918 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,540 That is their safety. 919 00:52:02,540 --> 00:52:05,960 That is their security blanket, if you will. 920 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:11,920 And the fact that we now have these air conditioned kennels 921 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,978 shows them that we see the value of their family member. 922 00:52:16,978 --> 00:52:18,200 And that's what they are. 923 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,800 They might be four legged, but their family. 924 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,680 And so I don't know that this would 925 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,520 have happened without you guys. 926 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,800 So thank you so much for caring and to pouring 927 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,220 into our community. 928 00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:34,620 It's very much appreciated. 929 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:36,000 Thank you. 930 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000 Charlie. 931 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,160 Thank you. 932 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,760 I won't repeat everything they've said. 933 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,320 And I'll just add that, definitely, you guys 934 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:46,960 came through. 935 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,320 And it's going to be such an asset for our navigation center. 936 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,980 And it's already making a difference. 937 00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:55,940 So thank you so much for having the heart to do this. 938 00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:59,000 And pets are very important to people as I know. 939 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,700 So with that, I'll entertain a motion. 940 00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:03,700 Motion for approval. 941 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,960 I'll second. 942 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,240 I vote yes. 943 00:53:11,626 --> 00:53:13,580 OK, all right. 944 00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:17,200 I have a motion from Council Member Morowit and a second 945 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,800 from Vice Mayor Lackey. 946 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,940 All in favor, say aye. 947 00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:21,120 Aye. 948 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,620 Opposed? 949 00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:23,620 Motion carries 5-0. 950 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,560 That takes us to-- 951 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,600 that takes us to C.6. 952 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,600 C.6. 953 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,780 Approved traffic calming measures along Sandra Street, 954 00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:41,580 Leo Street, Elm Street, Fishback Road, Coffeeberry Lane 955 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,120 and direct staff to take all appropriate actions 956 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,280 necessary to implement the measures in accordance 957 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,500 with the City of Manteca Traffic Calming Program 2025 958 00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:54,487 city-wide guidelines. 959 00:53:54,487 --> 00:53:56,570 Mayor and council, tonight we have deputy director 960 00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:58,570 of engineering, Somporn. 961 00:53:59,570 --> 00:54:01,570 Somporn. 962 00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:04,930 Traffic calming, my favorite. 963 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,450 Good evening, Mayor and city council members. 964 00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:10,750 So tonight, we have five street sections. 965 00:54:10,750 --> 00:54:13,750 They were nicely listed already. 966 00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:18,530 That has gone through the five steps-- four step 967 00:54:18,530 --> 00:54:21,930 process, excuse me, that was approved as part of the 2025 968 00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:23,930 traffic calming measures. 969 00:54:24,810 --> 00:54:27,850 So those five steps, just as a reminder. 970 00:54:27,850 --> 00:54:31,930 Step one is there's a request from the community, just one 971 00:54:31,930 --> 00:54:33,700 member of the community. 972 00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:34,970 Step two is the community member has 973 00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:39,650 to reach out to other members along their street segments. 974 00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:43,890 There is a requirement for a 2/3 commitment to installing 975 00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:46,810 an actual traffic calming device. 976 00:54:46,810 --> 00:54:50,680 Once we get that 2/3 vote, it gets turned over to engineering. 977 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,880 We do the data gathering. 978 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,820 We actually send folks out there and collect data 979 00:54:54,820 --> 00:54:57,540 during the mornings and the afternoon peaks. 980 00:54:57,540 --> 00:54:59,660 And then once we determine that there 981 00:54:59,660 --> 00:55:04,460 is a valid concern about traffic calming needs, 982 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,960 we do the actual design. 983 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,460 And here we are, tonight, looking for your approval 984 00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:11,460 on those designs and implementation. 985 00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:14,620 All right, thank you, Somporn. 986 00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:19,140 I think this was pulled by members of the public. 987 00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:20,600 Darryl. 988 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,600 Darryl, come on up, sir. 989 00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:27,420 I want to give my support to this and what these are. 990 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:28,480 You call them lumps. 991 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,840 I call them speed bumps. 992 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,780 Same thing. 993 00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:35,420 Anyway, I've been out there on this Elm Street Avenue 994 00:55:35,420 --> 00:55:37,340 and Argonaut Avenue. 995 00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:39,900 I sometime go out to Dave Thompson's church out 996 00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:41,420 at the brethren church. 997 00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:43,500 And I don't know how many times I've 998 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:46,960 had to call the police on speeders in that area. 999 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,420 It's that bad. 1000 00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:53,580 And I urge the city council to pass this whole thing. 1001 00:55:53,580 --> 00:55:57,260 I would make one real quick comment that we still 1002 00:55:57,260 --> 00:56:00,700 need to get a speed bump thing down there on Maple 1003 00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:05,500 Street from Manteca Avenue, or reverse Manteca Avenue 1004 00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:07,100 and make it a one way. 1005 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:12,980 But the stop sign down there at the post office always being 1006 00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:13,900 run. 1007 00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:19,580 And it's bad enough that the postmaster took the mailbox 1008 00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:21,780 across the street on Center Street. 1009 00:56:21,780 --> 00:56:22,960 They removed it. 1010 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,580 And the reason they removed it, they 1011 00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:29,180 didn't want to endanger their employees for going 1012 00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:30,600 over picking the mail up. 1013 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,300 It's that bad. 1014 00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:34,560 It's calmed down considerably. 1015 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,580 Of course, I haven't been downtown a few times 1016 00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:39,960 in the heat, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on, 1017 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,360 but it's warranted to. 1018 00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:43,780 Thank you. 1019 00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:45,780 Thank you. 1020 00:56:48,270 --> 00:56:53,670 Yes, I'm a believer in speed bumps, humps, lumps. 1021 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:58,510 Somporn, if you could tell me, do you know how many of these 1022 00:56:58,510 --> 00:56:59,330 are on the list? 1023 00:56:59,330 --> 00:57:02,490 I know there's a bunch of them that we're working on 1024 00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:05,947 and a bunch on the list that also need to be installed still. 1025 00:57:05,947 --> 00:57:08,530 I wouldn't be able to give you a number of the top of my head, 1026 00:57:08,530 --> 00:57:11,590 but I do know the last time I checked, 1027 00:57:11,590 --> 00:57:14,230 I want to say there was about 35 that was on the list. 1028 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:16,710 And we are slowly making our way through it. 1029 00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:18,230 Requests do come in. 1030 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:20,990 And as they come in, they get added to the list. 1031 00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:24,750 Right now, in terms of delivery, we typically 1032 00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:27,730 give one out anywhere between six to nine months. 1033 00:57:27,730 --> 00:57:30,850 So it does take some time to collect those signatures. 1034 00:57:30,850 --> 00:57:33,350 We do need to also reach out to the residents 1035 00:57:33,350 --> 00:57:36,830 to make sure that if you are the resident that's 1036 00:57:36,830 --> 00:57:39,900 having these lumps right in front of your house, 1037 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:42,270 we do give you an opportunity to provide your feedback. 1038 00:57:42,270 --> 00:57:46,920 And then we also have to collect the data to support the design. 1039 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,240 And then the ones that are already approved, 1040 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,960 are they all already installed or are they still waiting? 1041 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,860 So typically, once it's approved by city council, 1042 00:57:55,860 --> 00:57:59,100 it takes another two to four weeks, sometimes six. 1043 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,640 It is installed by city staff, so it is installed 1044 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,400 by our streets department. 1045 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,820 I'm not sure if you want to chime in. 1046 00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:08,340 Yes, I can chime in on that. 1047 00:58:08,340 --> 00:58:13,340 So typically, once they've been approved by council and come in, 1048 00:58:13,340 --> 00:58:15,660 we're about 30 to 60 days to do the install. 1049 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:19,240 There has been, excuse me, some of the new areas 1050 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,240 that are being-- 1051 00:58:21,545 --> 00:58:22,420 asphalt improvements. 1052 00:58:22,420 --> 00:58:23,600 Those are taking a little bit longer to get done. 1053 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,142 They're being done by the contractor. 1054 00:58:25,142 --> 00:58:28,840 But we try to do as they come within that 30 to 60 day window. 1055 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,320 So in the last two months, I think 1056 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,560 there's been 12 sets of lumps installed 1057 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,720 in various parts of town. 1058 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,780 And we have supply of them or are we still waiting on? 1059 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:44,840 No, we have, I don't know, 30 sets of lumps sitting in my yard 1060 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,340 right now. 1061 00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:46,940 So yes, there's quite a bit to go. 1062 00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:48,720 Some just came in the last week. 1063 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,640 Perfect. 1064 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,560 All right, any other questions from council? 1065 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,300 OK, no other questions. 1066 00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,700 I'll entertain a motion. 1067 00:59:00,308 --> 00:59:02,100 OK, I have a motion from Vice Mayor Lackey. 1068 00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:03,660 Second from Council Member Halford. 1069 00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:04,620 All in favor, say aye. 1070 00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:05,720 Aye. 1071 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,220 Opposed? 1072 00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:08,880 Motion carries 5-0. 1073 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:08,880 That will go ahead. 1074 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,880 Move on to C.12. 1075 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,160 Approve a professional services agreement with RRM Design Group 1076 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,960 in an amount not to exceed $554,054 to provide 1077 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,280 comprehensive architectural and engineering services 1078 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,280 for development of Manteca Fire Station Number 6 and authorize 1079 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,800 the city manager to sign the agreement and any associated 1080 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,740 documents. 1081 00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:36,220 Mayor and council, tonight, we have Fire Chief Steven Islas. 1082 00:59:36,220 --> 00:59:38,220 Do present. 1083 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,180 Good evening. 1084 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:41,470 So a brief update on where we're at. 1085 00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:43,890 We're trying to get the plans completed 1086 00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:46,450 for the new company six. 1087 00:59:46,450 --> 00:59:50,340 In the process of doing so, it was the most-- 1088 00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:52,610 the most expedited and economical way 1089 00:59:52,610 --> 00:59:57,190 to do that is to utilize plans that were used for company five. 1090 00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:58,990 It's a really good firehouse. 1091 00:59:58,990 --> 01:00:00,350 It's a good layout. 1092 01:00:00,350 --> 01:00:03,970 It's got scalability to it, pace of growth. 1093 01:00:03,970 --> 01:00:08,770 The issues that require changes to the plans. 1094 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:11,290 We need a longer apparatus. 1095 01:00:11,290 --> 01:00:14,870 Right now it only fit one piece of apparatus per side. 1096 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:17,270 So that's been a-- 1097 01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:19,470 it was designed that way. 1098 01:00:19,470 --> 01:00:21,430 So it wasn't a flaw but it's a poor design. 1099 01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:22,770 So we needed that changed. 1100 01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:27,170 And then because of the time, we need updates to code. 1101 01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:29,210 So moving forward with that, there 1102 01:00:29,210 --> 01:00:32,290 were two vendors that worked on those plans. 1103 01:00:32,290 --> 01:00:33,770 The first was RRM. 1104 01:00:33,770 --> 01:00:36,342 And they brought it to a 30%. 1105 01:00:36,342 --> 01:00:38,500 And then it was kicked over to the design 1106 01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:40,620 and build process to PBA. 1107 01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,840 So because of the rights from those architectures, 1108 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,500 those were the options that we had 1109 01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:48,600 moving forward with this plan. 1110 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,180 You have the amount from the proposal from RRM. 1111 01:00:52,180 --> 01:00:55,780 And the amount from PBA was $733,325. 1112 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,760 So RRM came in substantially lower. 1113 01:01:03,820 --> 01:01:07,620 That's where we're at with the process. 1114 01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:11,600 And then how long do you think this process will take? 1115 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,720 The process of architecture? 1116 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,540 Yeah. 1117 01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:17,320 The code up and the changes, I'm being told, 1118 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,320 will take approximately 60 to 90 days. 1119 01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:23,140 Perfect. 1120 01:01:23,583 --> 01:01:25,500 I like that we're going to go with double base 1121 01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:30,180 because we have more space at the new station. 1122 01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:31,160 Councilman Morowit. 1123 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:31,780 Yes. 1124 01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,280 So I'm glad you mentioned station 5. 1125 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,880 I was on council when we broke ground on station 5. 1126 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,170 So it's good that you've made improvements 1127 01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:41,587 because I've heard that there were some modifications that 1128 01:01:41,587 --> 01:01:42,590 need to be made. 1129 01:01:42,590 --> 01:01:45,350 Most importantly, what I wanted to bring to light 1130 01:01:45,350 --> 01:01:48,850 is we are starting to build station six. 1131 01:01:48,850 --> 01:01:50,300 You start someplace. 1132 01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:54,390 And station 6 is the direct benefit from Measure Q. 1133 01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:56,850 I mean, we talked about Measure Q and what it would do. 1134 01:01:56,850 --> 01:01:58,392 And what we said we would do with it. 1135 01:01:58,392 --> 01:02:01,670 So for folks that probably weren't excited about 3/4 1136 01:02:01,670 --> 01:02:04,630 percent sales tax, I think this was a great start. 1137 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:09,910 I mean, this is what a directly benefit of the 3/4 percent sales 1138 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:11,630 tax. 1139 01:02:11,630 --> 01:02:14,300 Fire station 6 is going to be built. 1140 01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:15,450 And that's because of that. 1141 01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:19,815 So I pulled it because this is the very first stage of building 1142 01:02:19,815 --> 01:02:21,690 something, as you have to have a good design. 1143 01:02:21,690 --> 01:02:23,830 And I think we've done a good job as far as what 1144 01:02:23,830 --> 01:02:25,530 it costs to do the design. 1145 01:02:25,530 --> 01:02:28,900 But now moving forward, it's actually going to happen. 1146 01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,298 And that's going to give a great amount of protection 1147 01:02:30,298 --> 01:02:32,747 to southwest Manteca and all of the city 1148 01:02:32,747 --> 01:02:34,330 because, as we've talked about before, 1149 01:02:34,330 --> 01:02:37,750 that fire stations, when occurrences happen 1150 01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:39,710 on the south side, we pull from the north 1151 01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:40,950 and we bring them south. 1152 01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:45,790 So it's very important that we have a fire station 6 and a 5. 1153 01:02:45,790 --> 01:02:48,290 And that gives protection along the 120 as well. 1154 01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:50,430 So I'm just glad we're bringing it forward 1155 01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:52,900 and we're starting the process now. 1156 01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:54,632 So I'm looking forward to the groundbreaking in about a month 1157 01:02:54,632 --> 01:02:55,550 or so. 1158 01:02:55,550 --> 01:02:57,510 Yes, thank you. 1159 01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:58,250 Thank you. 1160 01:02:58,250 --> 01:02:59,910 Yes, and I agree. 1161 01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:02,390 The other big win is for staff to be 1162 01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:06,750 working on and saving money by using the plans from station 5. 1163 01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:10,610 And just adding to them and not having to start from scratch. 1164 01:03:10,610 --> 01:03:14,210 So definitely kudos to that too. 1165 01:03:17,310 --> 01:03:19,710 Any of you guys want to add anything? 1166 01:03:19,710 --> 01:03:21,710 District 1 over there. 1167 01:03:22,310 --> 01:03:25,950 It's a first step in probably what, a two-year process, 1168 01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:29,670 to get the station built. Not only is Measure Q 1169 01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:31,990 helping pay for the station, it's already 1170 01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:35,520 paying for the staff that we'll be staffing. 1171 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,580 Nine firefighters. 1172 01:03:36,580 --> 01:03:38,180 Yeah, so there's nine firefighters. 1173 01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:41,480 Well, three firefighters, three engineers, and a captain that 1174 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,160 are being paid for by Measure Q that are already on board 1175 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,680 and running a second engine out of station [INAUDIBLE]. 1176 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680 We're making progress. 1177 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,440 We'll get there hopefully before I get reelected. 1178 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,440 And the apparatus. 1179 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,280 Yeah, all the money adds up. 1180 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,600 All right. 1181 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,660 Any other comments from council? 1182 01:04:07,660 --> 01:04:11,640 I will open this up for public comments. 1183 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,640 I got excited last time. 1184 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,880 Anybody on Zoom? 1185 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:27,380 I have no hands raised on Zoom for comment on item C.12. 1186 01:04:27,380 --> 01:04:28,680 OK, no comment cards? 1187 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,520 No comment. 1188 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,520 OK, come up. 1189 01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:38,370 Good evening. 1190 01:04:38,370 --> 01:04:39,110 Thank you. 1191 01:04:39,110 --> 01:04:42,210 I appreciate city for bringing fire station 6. 1192 01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:45,210 And hopefully it operates in 2028. 1193 01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:56,310 So I want to get a clarification on the site that is required. 1194 01:04:56,310 --> 01:05:02,310 So I heard it is two acres or is it 2.82? 1195 01:05:02,650 --> 01:05:03,770 2 acres. 1196 01:05:03,770 --> 01:05:05,490 Sorry? 1197 01:05:05,490 --> 01:05:07,490 2.82. 1198 01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:09,490 [INAUDIBLE] 1199 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:10,370 I can't hear. 1200 01:05:10,370 --> 01:05:11,530 2 acres. 1201 01:05:11,530 --> 01:05:13,530 2 acres, OK. 1202 01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:21,330 City has acquired 1.82 from the private developer and 1 acre 1203 01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:24,530 from the school district. 1204 01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:29,930 So city identifies the fire station 5 1205 01:05:32,490 --> 01:05:38,500 is a 0.75 acre and a need to have a 2 acre fire station. 1206 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:42,650 Why doesn't city understand that school district also 1207 01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:48,250 requires to support the growth, not reduce their school site? 1208 01:05:48,250 --> 01:05:52,450 And the PQP area should be balanced 1209 01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:57,650 as per the Manteca general plan-- the land use 1210 01:05:57,650 --> 01:05:59,730 to provide adequate land. 1211 01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:04,810 I appreciate that fire station is being taken care and also 1212 01:06:04,810 --> 01:06:09,610 wish the city fulfill their responsibility to provide 1213 01:06:10,530 --> 01:06:13,170 adequate land for the growth. 1214 01:06:13,170 --> 01:06:15,570 The school capacity is 1,000. 1215 01:06:17,810 --> 01:06:21,410 Sorry, for 1,000 kids capacity to support, 1216 01:06:21,730 --> 01:06:24,890 a minimum of 15 acres is required. 1217 01:06:24,890 --> 01:06:30,890 But the current site itself is 15.87 of the school district. 1218 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:39,800 And if 1 acre is given and it is 14.87 and it's not adequate 1219 01:06:39,260 --> 01:06:40,440 for 1,000 kids. 1220 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,460 But how many kids in the region? 1221 01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:44,180 There are 3,000 kids. 1222 01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:47,280 What is the adequate planning missing by the city? 1223 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,920 Why doesn't it fulfill its responsibility for the kids 1224 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,920 along with the much needed both fire station and schools. 1225 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,500 All the public infrastructure are equally 1226 01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:02,500 important for benefiting. 1227 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,500 For one, we should not dig a grave 1228 01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:08,140 for the other public facility. 1229 01:07:08,140 --> 01:07:10,140 Thank you. 1230 01:07:11,180 --> 01:07:13,180 OK, thank you. 1231 01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:19,740 Brad, can you clarify this whole 1.82, 2.82 situation 1232 01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:23,380 or having one of you guys. 1233 01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:25,740 Yeah, good evening, Mayor and council, Brad Wungluck, 1234 01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:27,620 director of government services. 1235 01:07:27,620 --> 01:07:29,520 So there are currently two sites. 1236 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,670 We have a site for the school that's 1237 01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:36,470 15.87 acres and a high density residential parcel that's 11.22. 1238 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:41,830 In discussions with the school district several months back, 1239 01:07:41,830 --> 01:07:44,910 there was communication regarding the potential 1240 01:07:44,910 --> 01:07:49,230 for a fire station along one of those sites 1241 01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:50,590 with the previous fire chief. 1242 01:07:50,590 --> 01:07:55,630 And the size that was determined that was necessary was 2.8. 1243 01:07:55,630 --> 01:07:57,450 In conversations with the school district, 1244 01:07:57,450 --> 01:08:01,500 there was the opportunity to acquire 1245 01:08:01,230 --> 01:08:04,110 or for them to donate 1 acre of that land 1246 01:08:04,110 --> 01:08:06,790 to the city that would not affect their design 1247 01:08:06,790 --> 01:08:08,870 or the number of students on the site. 1248 01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:12,150 So with that, there will be an item coming forward later that 1249 01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:15,150 will essentially proposes to increase 1250 01:08:16,690 --> 01:08:19,710 the acreage of public quasi public or public use 1251 01:08:19,710 --> 01:08:23,310 on those parcels from the 15.87 to 16.87, 1252 01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,630 reducing the high density residential, 1253 01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:31,710 which will allow for the school to be built as designed 1254 01:08:31,710 --> 01:08:34,910 and for the city to construct the two-acre fire station 1255 01:08:34,910 --> 01:08:36,910 site as well. 1256 01:08:37,790 --> 01:08:43,190 And the developer is not gaining any more acres? 1257 01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:48,630 The private developer is losing 1 acre as part of-- 1258 01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:51,300 they're going from 11.22 to 10.22. 1259 01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:54,550 OK, thank you. 1260 01:08:54,830 --> 01:08:57,230 Any other public comments? 1261 01:08:58,910 --> 01:09:01,310 You've already spoken, sir. 1262 01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:08,590 OK, seeing none, I'll bring it back. 1263 01:09:09,670 --> 01:09:11,770 If no other comments or questions from council, 1264 01:09:11,770 --> 01:09:12,770 I'll entertain a motion. 1265 01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:13,790 I do. 1266 01:09:13,790 --> 01:09:14,550 Go ahead. 1267 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:16,950 So I'm going to go back a little ways in history 1268 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:18,950 for Manteca Fire. 1269 01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:23,510 When I started, there was three stations. 1270 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:27,800 One was at Lincoln or on Powers, next to Lincoln School. 1271 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,200 Station 2 was on Center Street, next to Yosemite School. 1272 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,439 Station 3 was on Louise, across from Golden West. 1273 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,600 So when Manteca started building stations, 1274 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,160 they put them next to schools. 1275 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,279 And we, of course, we went to Del Webb to the north side 1276 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:46,600 because we needed one there. 1277 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,479 And five had to go to the southeast side 1278 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,879 at Woodward and Atherton. 1279 01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:54,960 I'm glad to see that we are putting another station 1280 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,360 next to a school. 1281 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,720 That is what they should be. 1282 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,000 They should be there to protect the kids. 1283 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,280 And in the location it is, it will also 1284 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,240 provide coverage within the five minutes and make it safer. 1285 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,360 Measure Q staffed the engine at station 1. 1286 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,200 We're going to be looking at ways to get staffing 1287 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,200 for station 6. 1288 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,960 I don't see us wanting to go back 1289 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,370 to where we had the truck running first out, especially 1290 01:10:28,370 --> 01:10:29,690 in that area. 1291 01:10:29,690 --> 01:10:32,130 It'll be just as bad as it was at once. 1292 01:10:32,130 --> 01:10:35,383 And so yes, Measure Q helps staffing, 1293 01:10:35,383 --> 01:10:37,500 but that was to staff the engine at once 1294 01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:39,490 to get the truck over where it needs to be. 1295 01:10:39,490 --> 01:10:41,930 But it does not to be running first out. 1296 01:10:41,930 --> 01:10:44,710 So that's what I have. 1297 01:10:44,710 --> 01:10:46,100 Thank you. 1298 01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:49,490 All right, I'll entertain a motion now. 1299 01:10:49,490 --> 01:10:50,490 Motion to approve. 1300 01:10:50,490 --> 01:10:51,470 Second. 1301 01:10:51,470 --> 01:10:53,470 OK, I have a motion from Council Member Halford. 1302 01:10:53,470 --> 01:10:54,928 Second from Council Member Morowit. 1303 01:10:54,928 --> 01:10:55,930 All in favor, say aye. 1304 01:10:55,930 --> 01:10:57,470 Aye. 1305 01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:58,210 Opposed? 1306 01:10:58,210 --> 01:11:00,210 Motion carries 5-0. 1307 01:11:00,570 --> 01:11:02,970 Takes us to C.15. 1308 01:11:03,970 --> 01:11:07,370 Adopt a resolution approving amendment number one to contract 1309 01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:11,570 services agreement with Flock Safety for the addition of six 1310 01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:16,500 Flock Condor cameras at an annual cost of $18,000 1311 01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,810 for the remaining three years of the agreement, 1312 01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:25,410 plus a one time installation fee of $1,500 for a total contract 1313 01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:29,490 amount not to exceed $55,500. 1314 01:11:31,650 --> 01:11:34,250 And further authorizing the city manager 1315 01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:39,500 without further council action to procure additional Flock 1316 01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:46,250 Condor cameras under the same type in future years, 1317 01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:50,230 subject to appropriated funding within the police department 1318 01:11:50,230 --> 01:11:52,570 approved annual budget and compliance 1319 01:11:52,570 --> 01:11:54,710 with the city's purchasing policy. 1320 01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,170 Mayor and council, tonight we have 1321 01:11:56,170 --> 01:11:58,570 Police Chief, Stephen Schluer. 1322 01:11:58,970 --> 01:12:00,970 All right, Chief. 1323 01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:05,470 Good evening, Stephen Schluer, Chief of Police. 1324 01:12:05,470 --> 01:12:09,610 First, I just want to say that these are condor cameras not 1325 01:12:09,610 --> 01:12:10,550 ALPR cameras. 1326 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:12,950 However, they do have a capability of ALPR, 1327 01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:15,530 but they're a condor camera. 1328 01:12:15,530 --> 01:12:16,710 And there are five of them. 1329 01:12:16,710 --> 01:12:20,570 And we're working jointly with parks, recreation, and transit 1330 01:12:20,570 --> 01:12:24,860 to strategically place these five in our parks 1331 01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:28,580 that are being vandalized and are being broken into. 1332 01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:33,100 We plan on putting them in Northgate Park, two of them. 1333 01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:37,460 One near the snack bar area and then one under the gazebo. 1334 01:12:37,460 --> 01:12:43,180 Lincoln Park, one looking at the entrance of the pool, 1335 01:12:43,180 --> 01:12:46,260 as well the outside of the restroom area 1336 01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:51,780 there, that's in the middle of the park and under the gazebo. 1337 01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:55,400 The next one is going to be the Skate Park. 1338 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,180 It will overlook the entire Skate Park. 1339 01:12:58,180 --> 01:12:59,780 Morenzone Park is the next one that 1340 01:12:59,780 --> 01:13:04,560 will be on the west side of the ball diamond 1341 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,940 there, looking at the side there, 1342 01:13:07,940 --> 01:13:10,880 and the restroom area that's constantly being vandalized. 1343 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,580 And then Woodward Splash Pad will have one. 1344 01:13:14,580 --> 01:13:18,980 And it'll be focused on the pump house 1345 01:13:18,980 --> 01:13:24,350 and outside of the restroom area there for vandalism. 1346 01:13:24,350 --> 01:13:26,710 I also have, Ian Osborne here, who 1347 01:13:26,710 --> 01:13:30,300 is our Flock guru or our Flock guy 1348 01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:32,430 here to answer any really specific questions that I 1349 01:13:32,430 --> 01:13:36,300 may not be able to answer. 1350 01:13:36,170 --> 01:13:38,310 Council, we want to start with questions or do you 1351 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:42,110 want me to open it up for public? 1352 01:13:42,110 --> 01:13:47,190 OK, we'll open it up for public comment first. 1353 01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:49,190 Anybody on Zoom? 1354 01:13:54,670 --> 01:13:56,450 I have attendees on Zoom. 1355 01:13:56,450 --> 01:14:01,700 However, no hands are raised for public comment on C.15. 1356 01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:02,510 OK, comment cards? 1357 01:14:02,510 --> 01:14:03,990 No comments. 1358 01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:08,430 Anybody who would like to speak on item C.15? 1359 01:14:08,430 --> 01:14:10,830 Come on up, sir. 1360 01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:14,710 I wasn't familiar with what these are exactly, 1361 01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:19,550 but I learned from the police department how these function. 1362 01:14:19,550 --> 01:14:22,510 And I just want to tell you these cameras 1363 01:14:22,510 --> 01:14:24,910 do a tremendous job. 1364 01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:29,270 And the amount of violence down there at library park 1365 01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:33,310 that these cameras have cut has been phenomenal. 1366 01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:35,510 And there's been situations that we've 1367 01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:41,230 had with vandalism to Union Pacific rail line that has 1368 01:14:41,230 --> 01:14:43,850 been curbed by those cameras. 1369 01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:47,150 And I am 100% in favor of them. 1370 01:14:47,150 --> 01:14:49,500 And I back them all the way. 1371 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:51,150 They've been a big help to the police 1372 01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:55,350 department and the general public at large. 1373 01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:57,310 Sure. 1374 01:14:57,310 --> 01:15:03,310 Anybody else who would like to speak on this item? 1375 01:15:04,750 --> 01:15:06,870 OK, seeing none, we'll bring it back. 1376 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:09,870 We'll start with Vice Mayor. 1377 01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:12,270 Thank you. 1378 01:15:12,270 --> 01:15:17,850 OK, so I've done a lot of research this past week. 1379 01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:21,880 I've asked a lot of questions for both Sergeant Osborne 1380 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,400 and Chief. 1381 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:28,800 And I'm going to play a little bit of devil's advocate here. 1382 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,880 Flock cameras, as we know, that's 1383 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,900 a very hot topic in the news right now. 1384 01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:35,640 And I know that a lot of news that's coming out 1385 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,640 is misinformation. 1386 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,800 One of the things that has come out 1387 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,640 is the misuse of information collected from the cameras 1388 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,360 in another state, not here. 1389 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,520 It's brought out questions regarding regulation processes, 1390 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,520 sharing of information, and potential violation 1391 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,520 of constitutional rights. 1392 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,940 So at what point do we say-- and like I said, 1393 01:16:00,940 --> 01:16:03,103 I'm playing devil's advocate here. 1394 01:16:03,103 --> 01:16:04,520 At what point do we officially say 1395 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,200 that we are becoming a surveillance state? 1396 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,800 We have cameras on the streets. 1397 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,680 We have cameras on buildings, parks, trackers 1398 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,960 in our phones and cars. 1399 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,930 All are the result of trying to eliminate a problem. 1400 01:16:18,930 --> 01:16:20,770 People are out there vandalizing. 1401 01:16:20,770 --> 01:16:23,830 We put up cameras, they find a new place to vandalize. 1402 01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:25,930 We put up more cameras. 1403 01:16:25,930 --> 01:16:28,330 Eventually, cameras are everywhere. 1404 01:16:28,690 --> 01:16:32,700 Just the other day, I was walking down the street, 1405 01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:34,100 crossing the street, and a house very 1406 01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:37,473 proudly announced that I was being recorded. 1407 01:16:37,473 --> 01:16:39,390 I was on the other side of the street already, 1408 01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:43,170 but that's how far their camera reached. 1409 01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:45,205 It's my understanding that these new cameras 1410 01:16:45,205 --> 01:16:47,330 are going to be placed at five parks that are known 1411 01:16:47,330 --> 01:16:49,810 for a high rate of vandalism. 1412 01:16:49,810 --> 01:16:51,570 So unfortunately, we live in a society 1413 01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:53,490 where people think it's OK to destroy 1414 01:16:53,490 --> 01:16:56,490 what doesn't belong to them. 1415 01:16:56,730 --> 01:16:59,810 As a result, we're considering putting more eyes up 1416 01:16:59,810 --> 01:17:03,430 to keep an eye on the areas that we can't physically be there. 1417 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:04,750 Our PD is good. 1418 01:17:04,750 --> 01:17:06,410 They're really good. 1419 01:17:06,410 --> 01:17:08,270 They can't be everywhere at once. 1420 01:17:08,270 --> 01:17:10,450 And I understand this. 1421 01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:12,110 So I've asked a lot of questions. 1422 01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:13,850 I've done a lot of research. 1423 01:17:13,850 --> 01:17:18,450 So a couple of questions just to put out there 1424 01:17:18,450 --> 01:17:21,650 that I've already asked both of you that I think 1425 01:17:21,650 --> 01:17:26,450 would be beneficial for the public to hear-- 1426 01:17:26,450 --> 01:17:28,770 these cameras, these condor cameras, are they the same 1427 01:17:28,770 --> 01:17:31,610 as the pan-tilt cameras that you were talking to me about? 1428 01:17:31,610 --> 01:17:36,130 Yeah, so condor is the pan-tilt zoom or PTZ camera 1429 01:17:36,130 --> 01:17:38,130 that Flock offers. 1430 01:17:38,530 --> 01:17:45,450 So and my understanding is that it's set on a fixed point 1431 01:17:45,450 --> 01:17:48,490 unless somebody's at a computer changes 1432 01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:53,390 the vantage point of that camera and circulates it around. 1433 01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:54,850 Is that right? 1434 01:17:54,850 --> 01:17:54,710 That's correct. 1435 01:17:54,710 --> 01:17:57,230 That's how all of our cameras are currently set up. 1436 01:17:57,230 --> 01:18:00,970 There is an option to monitor for movement. 1437 01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:02,970 And so if it picks it up, it'll track the person 1438 01:18:02,970 --> 01:18:04,470 until it goes out of frame. 1439 01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:06,900 We don't use that currently, which 1440 01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:08,330 we might with these ones because in the parks 1441 01:18:08,330 --> 01:18:10,370 it makes more sense to do that. 1442 01:18:10,370 --> 01:18:12,330 How clear is the picture? 1443 01:18:12,330 --> 01:18:15,610 Does it pick up facial recognition 1444 01:18:15,610 --> 01:18:18,700 or is it just like with the ALPR, 1445 01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:23,500 it's distinguishing clothing colors, stuff of that nature? 1446 01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:26,440 Yeah, so as they're defaulted right now-- well, 1447 01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:27,800 let me back up. 1448 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,980 There is no facial recognition built 1449 01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:31,380 into this software whatsoever. 1450 01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:36,300 Currently, they're on poles 35, 40 feet in the air that 1451 01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:39,300 are just general broad views. 1452 01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:42,140 You cannot generally see faces. 1453 01:18:42,140 --> 01:18:43,640 Sometimes you can't tell the gender, 1454 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,620 but you can tell if it's black pants, black shirt, 1455 01:18:47,620 --> 01:18:51,980 if they have a backpack, or if they're riding a bicycle. 1456 01:18:51,980 --> 01:18:54,520 So if it doesn't pick up facial recognition, 1457 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,200 how is it going to assist you in identifying those 1458 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,200 who are vandalizing our parks? 1459 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,700 Well, so facial recognition is computer software. 1460 01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:06,700 We're old school, and we have officers that review the footage 1461 01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:09,780 and are able to say, hey, that guy looks like Joe Schmo, who 1462 01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:12,400 I contacted two days ago. 1463 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,670 We know most of our clientele. 1464 01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:16,390 And so that's how most of the people 1465 01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:18,950 get identified is just from other officers. 1466 01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:21,190 And to clarify that, the difference 1467 01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:23,230 between facial recognition and a video 1468 01:19:23,230 --> 01:19:25,190 being able to pick up someone's face or two 1469 01:19:25,190 --> 01:19:26,710 totally different things. 1470 01:19:26,710 --> 01:19:28,870 Like Lieutenant Osborne said facial recognition 1471 01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:30,890 would be taking that face that it picks up, 1472 01:19:30,890 --> 01:19:32,510 putting it into a software program 1473 01:19:32,510 --> 01:19:35,110 and then spitting out who that person is, 1474 01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:42,270 where it will be able to pick up their face and their body. 1475 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:47,100 Then we look at that to determine who that person is. 1476 01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,910 It's not just their clothing, but it 1477 01:19:48,910 --> 01:19:50,710 will be able to track their clothing 1478 01:19:50,710 --> 01:19:53,230 and be able to say, OK, so we have 1479 01:19:53,230 --> 01:19:58,930 a guy with a black sweatshirt, white backpack, blue jeans 1480 01:19:58,930 --> 01:20:00,830 shorts, and a green bike. 1481 01:20:00,830 --> 01:20:02,870 And then we can look at the other cameras 1482 01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:05,470 to see where that person may have gone 1483 01:20:05,470 --> 01:20:08,500 or the direction of travel that person has gone. 1484 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:10,450 Does that make sense? 1485 01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:16,430 OK, we're good. 1486 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:23,390 You'll be able to prosecute based off of the video 1487 01:20:23,390 --> 01:20:29,170 that it takes or to be able to collect damages, however, 1488 01:20:29,170 --> 01:20:30,910 that works out with the court systems? 1489 01:20:30,910 --> 01:20:32,670 Yeah, at that point, it becomes evidence 1490 01:20:32,670 --> 01:20:36,710 that is used throughout the court process. 1491 01:20:36,710 --> 01:20:40,430 And so I know that Flock, because of the issues 1492 01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:43,100 that they've been having nationwide, 1493 01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:46,100 they're actually changing their policies. 1494 01:20:46,510 --> 01:20:50,270 And they've been adjusting the way that their practices are 1495 01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:50,850 happening. 1496 01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:53,127 So instead of holding for 30 days evidence, 1497 01:20:53,127 --> 01:20:54,210 they're holding for seven. 1498 01:20:54,210 --> 01:20:56,390 And that's going to be applicable 1499 01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:58,790 based on each jurisdiction. 1500 01:20:59,330 --> 01:21:03,300 So we're still sticking with the 30 days? 1501 01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:04,300 Correct, yes. 1502 01:21:04,300 --> 01:21:06,750 We will stay with the 30 days because we're not only 1503 01:21:06,750 --> 01:21:08,710 using these cameras in the park areas 1504 01:21:08,710 --> 01:21:11,290 for the vandalism, which is a property crime. 1505 01:21:11,290 --> 01:21:15,600 We also have these in other areas throughout the city. 1506 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:21,160 Let's take the jugging that just happened at the bank. 1507 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,740 They usually come in and they will surveil 1508 01:21:24,740 --> 01:21:28,180 or they'll scan an area prior to doing their crime. 1509 01:21:28,180 --> 01:21:31,800 They may come back a week later, or two weeks later, 1510 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,320 or jugging weeks later, or come back several times before they 1511 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,000 commit the actual crime. 1512 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,960 And then like with the jugging, we 1513 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,360 were able to get the person who was doing 1514 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,280 the jugging at the bank, and then 1515 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,840 go back and see that he was at the other locations 1516 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,545 up to 30 days prior. 1517 01:21:53,545 --> 01:21:54,920 And so we were able to charge him 1518 01:21:54,920 --> 01:22:00,400 with several other instances of doing the same crime. 1519 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,400 Chief, can you just define the definition 1520 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,268 of jugging for the folks? 1521 01:22:05,268 --> 01:22:07,600 Those of us that aren't hip enough to know. 1522 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,580 OK, So Ian can do that. 1523 01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:12,460 So jugging is a term-- it is a real thing. 1524 01:22:12,460 --> 01:22:14,130 It's not something we made up. 1525 01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:17,490 Essentially, a criminal will surveil the bank 1526 01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:19,970 and wait for victims to come out where they're 1527 01:22:19,970 --> 01:22:21,770 carrying obvious money bags. 1528 01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:24,950 And it's not always the business type money bags. 1529 01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:27,690 Sometimes it's just the envelope of cash. 1530 01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:29,970 And sure enough, victims do walk out 1531 01:22:29,970 --> 01:22:32,250 just carrying it in their hand. 1532 01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:35,250 They will then leave the bank and either be robbed down 1533 01:22:35,250 --> 01:22:38,510 the road or, in this case, this suspect, 1534 01:22:38,510 --> 01:22:41,470 he was breaking into the vehicles at their next stop. 1535 01:22:41,470 --> 01:22:44,400 So they get out of the bank, go to the grocery store. 1536 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:45,790 While the person was in the grocery store, 1537 01:22:45,790 --> 01:22:48,930 they would break into the car and steal the cash. 1538 01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:50,610 We didn't determine jugging. 1539 01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:53,490 Somebody else somewhere-- it might even 1540 01:22:53,490 --> 01:22:56,980 be in Webster's dictionary, I don't know, 1541 01:22:56,980 --> 01:22:59,380 or the Urban Dictionary. 1542 01:22:59,890 --> 01:23:01,770 All right, so it's my understanding 1543 01:23:01,770 --> 01:23:05,530 that, Lieutenant Osborne, you conduct audits of the camera 1544 01:23:05,530 --> 01:23:07,170 once a month. 1545 01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:08,210 Or more. 1546 01:23:08,210 --> 01:23:14,330 And Chief already informed me, but can you inform the public. 1547 01:23:14,330 --> 01:23:19,570 Has Manteca ever uncovered any misuse of Flock information? 1548 01:23:19,570 --> 01:23:23,870 No, it has not been uncovered doing a random audit. 1549 01:23:23,870 --> 01:23:28,670 And we've never had any allegations that there 1550 01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:32,250 was misuse of system. 1551 01:23:32,250 --> 01:23:34,670 Can you tell I put a lot of thought into this this week? 1552 01:23:34,670 --> 01:23:36,670 Yeah. 1553 01:23:40,130 --> 01:23:43,490 Here's the issue that I'm having. 1554 01:23:43,490 --> 01:23:46,370 Camera surveillance, the potential for it 1555 01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:47,990 is really unlimited. 1556 01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:51,250 We don't know where it's going in the future. 1557 01:23:51,250 --> 01:23:54,850 We need to stay a step ahead and ensure that our residents are 1558 01:23:54,850 --> 01:23:56,890 not only safe, but they're free to live 1559 01:23:56,890 --> 01:23:59,290 with their constitutional rights. 1560 01:24:01,570 --> 01:24:04,290 Most people I know are not in favor 1561 01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:08,530 of being a surveillance state where every step they take 1562 01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:10,530 is being tracked. 1563 01:24:10,900 --> 01:24:15,000 With that being said, I am about kids. 1564 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,360 I am about families. 1565 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,460 And knowing that these cameras help with things such as Amber 1566 01:24:21,460 --> 01:24:22,500 alerts. 1567 01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:25,500 That's what triggers my brain. 1568 01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:30,860 The way that this is written and the reason 1569 01:24:30,860 --> 01:24:34,700 I'm going to decline on this is because I 1570 01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:39,500 don't believe that council should be giving away 1571 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:46,900 their ability to decide on future Flock camera 1572 01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:48,160 installation. 1573 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,200 I think that's something that needs 1574 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,620 to be decided as a council. 1575 01:24:54,140 --> 01:24:57,140 Here, it states further authorizing city manager 1576 01:24:57,140 --> 01:25:00,620 without further council action to procure additional Flock 1577 01:25:00,620 --> 01:25:02,500 Condor camera units. 1578 01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:03,840 I don't agree with that. 1579 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:10,440 I think that our ability to have surveillance around the city 1580 01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:14,630 needs to have council consideration now 1581 01:25:14,630 --> 01:25:16,700 and in the future. 1582 01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:19,700 So that's where I'm at. 1583 01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:20,630 So I have a question on that. 1584 01:25:20,630 --> 01:25:24,110 So in the future, if we sign any new contracts, or extensions, 1585 01:25:24,110 --> 01:25:26,430 or anything like that, is this item 1586 01:25:26,430 --> 01:25:30,790 going to say that you're not coming back to council with it? 1587 01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:35,910 It would come to council in the formal budget process. 1588 01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:37,707 So say if they're-- 1589 01:25:37,707 --> 01:25:39,790 I'll give you a little bit of background and chief 1590 01:25:39,790 --> 01:25:41,550 you can add to it as well. 1591 01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:45,270 So we piloted the cameras like the camera 1592 01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:49,590 that you saw at library park, that has really been 1593 01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:51,650 a huge help in a lot of ways. 1594 01:25:51,650 --> 01:25:53,510 It's even helping the local businesses 1595 01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:55,510 downtown from vandalization. 1596 01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:58,570 We had an incident at Lincoln Pool. 1597 01:25:58,570 --> 01:26:01,490 We were able to arrest the suspects. 1598 01:26:01,490 --> 01:26:04,470 So we've seen-- and we just piloted 1599 01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:05,930 all different types of cameras. 1600 01:26:05,930 --> 01:26:08,930 We were piloting Flock, ALPR. 1601 01:26:09,190 --> 01:26:11,350 I mean, all of these brands. 1602 01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:12,810 And they give them to you. 1603 01:26:12,810 --> 01:26:13,593 It's a free demo. 1604 01:26:13,593 --> 01:26:15,100 We're like, hey, let's try it out. 1605 01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:15,810 Let's see what works. 1606 01:26:15,810 --> 01:26:16,768 Let's see what happens. 1607 01:26:16,768 --> 01:26:18,550 And we've seen a huge success. 1608 01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:20,310 And so some of the reasons why we're 1609 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:25,470 bringing this forward tonight is we just invested $3.2 million 1610 01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:29,390 in a beautiful splash pad for our community. 1611 01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:32,950 And so at the end of the day, if there are issues with it 1612 01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:35,730 or something happens with it being vandalized, 1613 01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:38,870 we have to report to the public and say, we didn't know. 1614 01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:40,790 We didn't have an officer there. 1615 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:45,170 So in some of these areas where we know that they're hot targets 1616 01:26:45,170 --> 01:26:48,790 and as you know, the areas that are identified are. 1617 01:26:48,790 --> 01:26:52,500 But at some point this gives the chief or I discretion. 1618 01:26:52,500 --> 01:26:55,390 If we need to get one, it's in our operational means, 1619 01:26:55,390 --> 01:26:56,290 we can do that. 1620 01:26:56,290 --> 01:26:58,900 That doesn't mean we wouldn't notify you. 1621 01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:00,102 It just may not come before council. 1622 01:27:00,102 --> 01:27:02,310 And chief, you can add to that if you'd like as well. 1623 01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:06,510 This also is for the condor camera, 1624 01:27:07,515 --> 01:27:10,800 to procure additional condor cameras, which are not 1625 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,840 the ALPRs that you see at the intersections that are set up 1626 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,460 fixed to read license plates. 1627 01:27:15,460 --> 01:27:20,920 These would be more a brand of security camera, not so much 1628 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:26,920 the ALPR that we have fixed throughout the city that 1629 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:33,200 are the license plate reader ones that pick up the vehicles. 1630 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,820 So these are more surveillance camera type things? 1631 01:27:35,820 --> 01:27:39,200 These are just like a security camera, pan-tilt zoom security 1632 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,800 camera that Flock is the manufacturer. 1633 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,600 Is there an AI or a software attached to the back end 1634 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,600 of this for these condors? 1635 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,800 AI to do-- 1636 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,480 A software to recognize? 1637 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,200 So it's not the facial recognition. 1638 01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:03,000 It's the green bicycle and black shirt recognition. 1639 01:28:05,650 --> 01:28:11,500 Also these cameras are a precursor to our [INAUDIBLE]. 1640 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:16,970 And that's something which is the real time crime information 1641 01:28:16,970 --> 01:28:22,530 center that we just are going to be receiving $750,000 from 1642 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:26,730 the federal government for to help build. 1643 01:28:27,290 --> 01:28:33,290 And the cameras, although yet it does surveil certain areas 1644 01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:40,130 or things that we have it up on, what they do on the back end, 1645 01:28:40,130 --> 01:28:41,430 not on the back end of the system, 1646 01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:45,730 but on the back end of the product is invaluable. 1647 01:28:45,730 --> 01:28:51,900 One of the most recent-- we've had several cases to that we 1648 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:53,890 have solved major crimes with. 1649 01:28:53,890 --> 01:28:54,990 A robbery recently. 1650 01:28:54,990 --> 01:29:00,990 But most recently, as he was speaking about the human 1651 01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:05,900 trafficking and stop, we did have a 12-year-old girl who was 1652 01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:10,490 being lured online and left her family, went out. 1653 01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:14,290 The Ring camera picked up a brief car 1654 01:29:14,290 --> 01:29:16,900 that went by at her house. 1655 01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:20,970 It also picked up her going out her front window of her bedroom. 1656 01:29:20,970 --> 01:29:24,450 She went into that car and disappeared. 1657 01:29:24,450 --> 01:29:25,670 No one knew where she went. 1658 01:29:25,670 --> 01:29:29,900 We had a brief thing on the car. 1659 01:29:29,900 --> 01:29:33,910 And we were able to, off of that Ring camera 1660 01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:36,390 video, then take that description, 1661 01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:37,970 put it into our Flock. 1662 01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:41,450 And through our flock be able to pick up 1663 01:29:41,450 --> 01:29:44,370 and realize what type of vehicle it was. 1664 01:29:44,370 --> 01:29:48,130 Then another camera was able to pick up a plate. 1665 01:29:48,130 --> 01:29:49,890 And we were able to backtrack. 1666 01:29:49,890 --> 01:29:54,900 And then as we were getting ready to go to this person's 1667 01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:56,410 house in Stockton that she fled to, 1668 01:29:56,410 --> 01:30:00,100 she actually made it back home. 1669 01:30:01,450 --> 01:30:05,540 And then there was some crimes that 1670 01:30:05,540 --> 01:30:08,200 were alleged that occurred in Stockton with her. 1671 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:13,580 And so had we not had these Flock cameras that we have, 1672 01:30:13,580 --> 01:30:15,260 had she not returned home, we would 1673 01:30:15,260 --> 01:30:18,200 have been able to go to where we were able to find him 1674 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,260 at in coordination with our Flock, the Flock that's 1675 01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:24,600 in the county, the Flock in Stockton 1676 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,260 and being able to put things together. 1677 01:30:28,620 --> 01:30:30,860 Had she not returned home, I would 1678 01:30:30,860 --> 01:30:33,660 like to think that we would have been able to do it-- 1679 01:30:33,660 --> 01:30:37,700 to safely get her out of harm's way. 1680 01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:41,740 We had a robbery a couple of weeks ago at the convenience 1681 01:30:41,740 --> 01:30:48,940 store at Yosemite and airport that a lady was inside the store 1682 01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:50,400 when it was getting robbed. 1683 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,100 She calls. 1684 01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:56,278 The person flees in a white, smaller vehicle. 1685 01:30:56,278 --> 01:30:57,320 That was the description. 1686 01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,790 We were able to pick it up on Flock and get a license plate 1687 01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:03,910 and then eventually make an arrest at that person's home. 1688 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:07,390 And so they are great tools. 1689 01:31:07,390 --> 01:31:09,850 And like with any tool, if they are misused, 1690 01:31:09,850 --> 01:31:11,630 they can be a bad tool. 1691 01:31:11,630 --> 01:31:13,250 And I'll be the first to admit that. 1692 01:31:13,250 --> 01:31:16,252 However, we have safeguards in place at our police department. 1693 01:31:16,252 --> 01:31:17,710 And I think the state of California 1694 01:31:17,710 --> 01:31:20,670 does a pretty good job in having safeguards in place 1695 01:31:20,670 --> 01:31:23,350 with the facial recognition and some of the other things. 1696 01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:25,990 Yeah, we still have to do the old-- 1697 01:31:25,990 --> 01:31:27,550 one of the comments the other day 1698 01:31:27,550 --> 01:31:29,855 that this takes away the gumshoe detective, 1699 01:31:29,855 --> 01:31:31,230 but actually, it doesn't gives us 1700 01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:36,300 leads to go and apprehend these suspects that 1701 01:31:36,172 --> 01:31:37,130 are doing these crimes. 1702 01:31:37,130 --> 01:31:40,700 Not all of them are just vandalism or drug use in a park. 1703 01:31:40,700 --> 01:31:43,390 There are violent crimes that occur. 1704 01:31:43,390 --> 01:31:44,550 Even in other cities. 1705 01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:47,390 And in other cities, they can enter that license plate 1706 01:31:47,390 --> 01:31:49,790 in, as it's called, a hot plate. 1707 01:31:49,790 --> 01:31:53,390 Or hey, this person just robbed the AMPM 1708 01:31:53,390 --> 01:31:56,390 at Wilson and the Crosstown. 1709 01:31:57,630 --> 01:32:01,910 And put in that license plate so that if it comes into our town, 1710 01:32:01,910 --> 01:32:03,910 we know. 1711 01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:07,990 I've read things that say, oh, it's mistaken. 1712 01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:11,810 People are being arrested for mistaken license plates or this, 1713 01:32:11,810 --> 01:32:17,210 that, or the other, mistaken identity on the vehicle. 1714 01:32:18,890 --> 01:32:23,670 When a car goes through and it picks up a hit, 1715 01:32:23,670 --> 01:32:25,190 it'll send you a message. 1716 01:32:25,190 --> 01:32:28,190 And it shows you a back picture of the vehicle and the license 1717 01:32:28,190 --> 01:32:28,950 plate. 1718 01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:35,550 And that portion-- and let's say the license plate was 1JTF 123. 1719 01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:44,950 And there's a license plate frame or JT or JIE. 1720 01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:47,700 And the license plate frame cuts it off 1721 01:32:47,700 --> 01:32:50,410 and it shows that it says it's JTF instead of JTI. 1722 01:32:50,410 --> 01:32:54,350 So it picks it up and we get a picture of that vehicle. 1723 01:32:54,350 --> 01:32:55,890 And they'll tell you-- 1724 01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:57,390 Stockton, let's say, would say, hey, 1725 01:32:57,390 --> 01:32:59,340 that's a green Toyota that did it. 1726 01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:02,800 When it pops it up because it pictures the car, 1727 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,240 it comes back as, oh, no, that's a white Ford. 1728 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,100 And with this license plate, so you run it. 1729 01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:10,840 Yeah, sure. 1730 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:11,580 The day is long. 1731 01:33:11,580 --> 01:33:13,600 It comes back to a white Ford. 1732 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,800 And so that car wouldn't be stopped. 1733 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:17,860 But there are safeguards in place. 1734 01:33:17,860 --> 01:33:24,400 And the human factor is very real in it with us. 1735 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,780 And I believe that they're invaluable to being safe. 1736 01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:32,880 As far as the surveillance state, I've read the book, 1984. 1737 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,600 I was a government major. 1738 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,480 I know who Big Brother is. 1739 01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:42,880 I don't think Orwell in that book was envisioning-- 1740 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,700 he was envisioning the surveillance state. 1741 01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:54,700 But we're not so much the surveillance state as people 1742 01:33:57,610 --> 01:33:59,470 put us out to be. 1743 01:33:59,470 --> 01:34:03,730 It's not the-- like I said, it's not the facial recognition. 1744 01:34:03,730 --> 01:34:06,570 It's not the drive-through and it's picking up your IMEI 1745 01:34:06,570 --> 01:34:07,350 on your phone. 1746 01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:09,230 And people think, oh, because my phone's in my car. 1747 01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:10,105 It picks up my phone. 1748 01:34:10,105 --> 01:34:11,500 It knows where I'm at. 1749 01:34:11,500 --> 01:34:13,500 That's not happening. 1750 01:34:13,243 --> 01:34:15,910 It picks up a description of the vehicle, and the license plate. 1751 01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:20,770 It doesn't pick up the person in the car. 1752 01:34:20,770 --> 01:34:25,590 The condors that we'll have up at the other sites 1753 01:34:25,590 --> 01:34:27,810 and the condors that we do have up now 1754 01:34:27,810 --> 01:34:30,390 are targeted at high crime areas. 1755 01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:35,790 We have one that's at a high crime area 1756 01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:40,650 that we've had shootings at some establishments. 1757 01:34:41,130 --> 01:34:44,700 And that's just so that it's reactive. 1758 01:34:44,700 --> 01:34:47,310 And when we get RTCC in, in a few years, 1759 01:34:47,310 --> 01:34:48,930 once our police department gets built, 1760 01:34:48,930 --> 01:34:52,850 and we'll have personnel who will man it, 1761 01:34:52,850 --> 01:34:55,833 not so much 24/7 because the evening or the morning hours 1762 01:34:55,833 --> 01:34:56,750 don't need it as much. 1763 01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:59,470 And so we'll have those people who are able to look at those. 1764 01:34:59,470 --> 01:35:04,270 So to say that these cameras are something 1765 01:35:04,770 --> 01:35:08,970 that is being used to surveil people 1766 01:35:11,330 --> 01:35:13,650 know is to pick up criminal activity. 1767 01:35:13,650 --> 01:35:15,970 And this here is just for condors 1768 01:35:15,970 --> 01:35:19,530 and it's not for the ALPRs. 1769 01:35:19,530 --> 01:35:24,290 Chief, how long have you had cameras in the city? 1770 01:35:24,290 --> 01:35:24,830 Oh, geez. 1771 01:35:24,830 --> 01:35:26,950 We started with a program called Vigilant. 1772 01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:29,150 And it was a license plate reader. 1773 01:35:29,150 --> 01:35:32,270 And Charlie maybe able to help us. 1774 01:35:32,270 --> 01:35:37,728 We got those in '09, right after you left, maybe '10. 1775 01:35:37,728 --> 01:35:39,770 Well, before that, we had a license plate readers 1776 01:35:39,770 --> 01:35:40,350 on our cars. 1777 01:35:40,350 --> 01:35:43,100 Yeah, we had license plate readers on our cars. 1778 01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:44,870 We had Vigilant readers on our cars. 1779 01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:47,270 So we've had them-- 1780 01:35:47,322 --> 01:35:49,300 that's before I was in Delta [INAUDIBLE]. 1781 01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,170 And so that was probably-- 1782 01:35:51,170 --> 01:35:53,170 we're looking like 2005, 2006. 1783 01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:59,620 We've had video cameras. 1784 01:35:59,620 --> 01:36:03,820 And the same thing with our body cameras, our body worn cameras. 1785 01:36:03,820 --> 01:36:07,793 There's some misbelief about how these videos are stored. 1786 01:36:07,793 --> 01:36:08,960 They're stored in the cloud. 1787 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,100 They can be accessed. 1788 01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,380 All of our videos-- 1789 01:36:11,380 --> 01:36:14,860 Axon body worn cameras is the-- 1790 01:36:14,860 --> 01:36:17,620 even if you use the View, which got bought by Axon, 1791 01:36:17,620 --> 01:36:19,520 all those are stored in the cloud. 1792 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,100 The proprietary access is to the police department. 1793 01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,100 And same thing with Flock. 1794 01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:29,600 It's stored in the cloud, but it's accessed by us. 1795 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,460 And we have agreements that that's accessed by us. 1796 01:36:34,740 --> 01:36:37,700 All right, anybody else have comments. 1797 01:36:37,700 --> 01:36:40,100 Just a brief comment. 1798 01:36:40,580 --> 01:36:43,580 I think we go in every store, every market. 1799 01:36:43,580 --> 01:36:45,240 I have them in my business. 1800 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,180 We have cameras everywhere. 1801 01:36:47,180 --> 01:36:49,860 The only thing you do have to tell people 1802 01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:51,882 is if you're doing audio, you have 1803 01:36:51,882 --> 01:36:54,900 to let them know you're doing audio in your business, 1804 01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:56,190 so that has to be told. 1805 01:36:56,190 --> 01:36:59,300 My daughter is an attorney and she told me a long time ago 1806 01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:01,310 there is no anticipation of privacy 1807 01:37:01,310 --> 01:37:03,990 once you leave your home. 1808 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:05,730 That is just the way it is. 1809 01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:07,370 Now, the question is who abuses it. 1810 01:37:07,370 --> 01:37:09,950 I think the chief covered that well. 1811 01:37:09,950 --> 01:37:14,790 Abuse is a potential problem, but not a problem in this city. 1812 01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:17,390 I think the Lieutenant made it very clear that we 1813 01:37:17,390 --> 01:37:19,790 have stops in place. 1814 01:37:20,130 --> 01:37:20,930 We've checked. 1815 01:37:20,930 --> 01:37:23,390 We've never had allegations of misuse. 1816 01:37:23,390 --> 01:37:25,170 That is the proof in the pudding. 1817 01:37:25,170 --> 01:37:27,670 Not a few complaints across the country 1818 01:37:27,670 --> 01:37:29,810 or a few misguided officers. 1819 01:37:29,810 --> 01:37:31,650 Bad apples, as I like to call them. 1820 01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:34,830 And does not dictate the entire country. 1821 01:37:34,830 --> 01:37:40,300 And these cities in California is probably especially tough 1822 01:37:40,300 --> 01:37:43,300 on anticipation of privacy, especially 1823 01:37:43,150 --> 01:37:45,390 by police departments and misuse. 1824 01:37:45,390 --> 01:37:47,150 So I'm confident. 1825 01:37:47,150 --> 01:37:49,230 These are specifically-- I think we're only here 1826 01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:53,950 to decide if we want six cameras in high crime areas. 1827 01:37:53,950 --> 01:37:56,730 And I think that's really what we have in front of us. 1828 01:37:56,730 --> 01:37:59,700 All the other information-- although I appreciate. 1829 01:37:59,700 --> 01:38:00,990 And I think we're going to have some type 1830 01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:03,870 of a little briefing on that next month 1831 01:38:03,870 --> 01:38:05,230 or something on Flock. 1832 01:38:05,230 --> 01:38:06,370 I'll be asking that. 1833 01:38:06,370 --> 01:38:08,100 Yeah, so that's going to be coming up. 1834 01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:11,838 But in the meantime, six cameras, high crime areas, 1835 01:38:11,838 --> 01:38:13,630 two of them in my district, I can tell you. 1836 01:38:13,630 --> 01:38:15,470 You mentioned. 1837 01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:17,150 The ones you also mentioned are areas 1838 01:38:17,150 --> 01:38:20,470 that we have a lot of folks sleeping in barbecue areas 1839 01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:25,100 and under coverings at night, burning up barbecues. 1840 01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,590 We just reported a bunch of barbecues 1841 01:38:26,590 --> 01:38:30,177 that are burnt up at Lincoln Park, Northgate, Woodward. 1842 01:38:30,177 --> 01:38:32,100 This is not happening during the day, folks. 1843 01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:33,190 This is happening at night. 1844 01:38:33,190 --> 01:38:35,273 And we don't have enough police officers or people 1845 01:38:35,273 --> 01:38:36,490 watching everything. 1846 01:38:36,490 --> 01:38:39,100 So I'm looking forward to these cameras being there. 1847 01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:40,470 I think it's going to help. 1848 01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:42,490 Hopefully, you won't have any more problems. 1849 01:38:42,490 --> 01:38:44,250 Maybe it'll be enough to deter people. 1850 01:38:44,250 --> 01:38:47,830 But in the meantime, I'm in favor of it. 1851 01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:48,750 And I like the way the program is set up 1852 01:38:48,750 --> 01:38:52,520 as it is, especially to watch private property, vandalism, 1853 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:53,520 and crime. 1854 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,640 Thank you. 1855 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,640 Yeah, I agree. 1856 01:38:56,860 --> 01:38:59,820 It doesn't matter how many officers we have. 1857 01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:02,780 We never can be everywhere, every place. 1858 01:39:02,780 --> 01:39:08,900 And these extra eyes help our officers, do their job better. 1859 01:39:08,900 --> 01:39:12,640 And end of the day, I think they have helped tremendously 1860 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,640 in certain places. 1861 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,340 And the locations you mentioned are all been issues. 1862 01:39:18,340 --> 01:39:20,640 And I think it will actually help 1863 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,160 people feel safer in the parks because they 1864 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:28,120 know that criminal activity is being watched. 1865 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:32,560 Eventually, like Chief said, with the Real Time Crime Center, 1866 01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:36,760 this is vital to continue that going. 1867 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:41,600 I also feel that we do need to give some flexibility to-- we're 1868 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:46,280 not here to do the Chief's job and give him flexibility 1869 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,360 and the city manager to work together 1870 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:54,610 to move them around or also add another one depending on if they 1871 01:39:54,610 --> 01:39:57,100 get other hot spots in the community, 1872 01:39:57,100 --> 01:40:00,550 as long as we are told about them at the same time. 1873 01:40:00,550 --> 01:40:03,450 So I think I'm good with the way it is also. 1874 01:40:03,450 --> 01:40:07,650 And I think these need to happen. 1875 01:40:08,130 --> 01:40:11,450 And I do feel that it has deterred a lot of crime, 1876 01:40:11,450 --> 01:40:13,230 has solved a lot of crimes too. 1877 01:40:13,230 --> 01:40:17,210 And something I will ask during my council comments 1878 01:40:17,210 --> 01:40:20,290 tonight to give a thorough report on this 1879 01:40:20,290 --> 01:40:21,770 into our next meeting. 1880 01:40:21,770 --> 01:40:24,170 But for now, at least, let's look at C.15 1881 01:40:24,170 --> 01:40:27,130 and see if we have consensus to move this forward. 1882 01:40:27,130 --> 01:40:28,970 Motion for approval. 1883 01:40:28,970 --> 01:40:30,330 Second 1884 01:40:30,330 --> 01:40:33,930 OK, I have a motion from Council Member Morowit and a second 1885 01:40:33,930 --> 01:40:35,990 from Council Member Breitenbucher. 1886 01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:37,330 All in favor, say aye. 1887 01:40:37,330 --> 01:40:38,830 Aye. 1888 01:40:38,830 --> 01:40:43,300 And I had a comment or two. 1889 01:40:44,330 --> 01:40:45,470 You gotta tell me. 1890 01:40:45,470 --> 01:40:47,650 You gotta yell at me. 1891 01:40:47,650 --> 01:40:51,250 You need to look this way. 1892 01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:57,110 I'm very supportive of the cameras for a number of reasons, 1893 01:40:57,110 --> 01:40:58,890 from both the prevention point of view 1894 01:40:58,890 --> 01:41:00,810 and investigative point of view. 1895 01:41:00,810 --> 01:41:02,530 The other reality of it is if we become 1896 01:41:02,530 --> 01:41:06,970 known as not having cameras, guess who's coming to town? 1897 01:41:06,970 --> 01:41:10,650 It'll be the people that we want on camera. 1898 01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:14,730 The benefits of the cameras far outweigh any negative. 1899 01:41:14,730 --> 01:41:20,130 And so I'm very supportive, both of the ALPR and the security 1900 01:41:20,130 --> 01:41:21,900 cameras. 1901 01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:22,310 They're a huge benefit. 1902 01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:23,890 I mean, even to the point of if they 1903 01:41:23,890 --> 01:41:25,890 get the call of an armed robbery at Wells Fargo, 1904 01:41:25,890 --> 01:41:28,930 they can slave whatever cameras are in the neighborhood, 1905 01:41:28,930 --> 01:41:30,810 in the area to look over and to see 1906 01:41:30,810 --> 01:41:35,650 what is happening before the responding officers even get-- 1907 01:41:35,650 --> 01:41:40,450 with the Real Time Crime Center gets here. 1908 01:41:41,330 --> 01:41:44,810 That's what that group would be tasked with because it's 1909 01:41:44,810 --> 01:41:47,660 a little much to ask dispatch that they may or may not 1910 01:41:47,660 --> 01:41:49,500 have time to do it right now. 1911 01:41:49,500 --> 01:41:51,560 Tremendous benefit to the community, the safety. 1912 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,960 And I'm fully supporting. 1913 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,245 That's why I voted yes. 1914 01:41:56,245 --> 01:41:57,620 Yeah, with the community, I think 1915 01:41:57,620 --> 01:42:00,740 also it's a big win for our business owners 1916 01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:02,580 and also encouraging more businesses 1917 01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:06,160 to feel safe with retail crime in the city 1918 01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:07,340 because we have these. 1919 01:42:07,340 --> 01:42:10,140 And we've solved a lot of those cases too. 1920 01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:12,140 Vice Mayor. 1921 01:42:12,380 --> 01:42:18,180 I just want to be clear that I am support in support of our PD. 1922 01:42:18,180 --> 01:42:22,600 And I do recognize the benefit of these cameras. 1923 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:28,600 And what I don't agree with on this particular item 1924 01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:32,940 is the council giving the future ability 1925 01:42:34,860 --> 01:42:38,500 to decide on whether or not procuring more Flock cameras 1926 01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:42,740 is in the best interest of the community. 1927 01:42:42,740 --> 01:42:47,690 Just as we have with this, we are given a recommendation. 1928 01:42:47,690 --> 01:42:49,430 We are given all the information. 1929 01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:53,700 And what this is stating is that the council, 1930 01:42:53,700 --> 01:42:56,490 for future additional Flock Condor cameras, 1931 01:42:56,490 --> 01:42:58,670 they just want to be known if they're going up. 1932 01:42:58,670 --> 01:43:04,700 And I don't think that I can vote for that particular piece 1933 01:43:04,700 --> 01:43:04,570 of this. 1934 01:43:04,570 --> 01:43:08,370 Like I said, I recognize the benefit of these cameras. 1935 01:43:08,370 --> 01:43:10,235 I do. 1936 01:43:10,235 --> 01:43:11,610 And I said in the very beginning, 1937 01:43:11,610 --> 01:43:13,270 I was playing devil's advocate. 1938 01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:17,890 Our job is to speak for our constituents, for our people. 1939 01:43:17,890 --> 01:43:20,990 And it has been a hot topic. 1940 01:43:20,990 --> 01:43:25,790 But I truly believe that procuring additional condor 1941 01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:28,270 cameras needs to be a council decision, which 1942 01:43:28,270 --> 01:43:31,750 is why-- that is the reason why I'm voting no on this. 1943 01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:35,900 OK, so it looks like we were in the middle of the motion, 1944 01:43:35,900 --> 01:43:38,230 but I think it got done. 1945 01:43:38,230 --> 01:43:39,770 Yeah, I think the vote occurred. 1946 01:43:39,770 --> 01:43:42,170 You got that, Cass? 1947 01:43:42,910 --> 01:43:44,820 Yeah, 4 yeses and 1 no. 1948 01:43:44,820 --> 01:43:46,400 Yes. 1949 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,800 OK, with that, I think-- is that all the consent 1950 01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:51,520 items that were pulled? 1951 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:52,580 It's all I have. 1952 01:43:52,580 --> 01:44:00,380 OK, with that, I'm going to go ahead and do a 10-minute break. 1953 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,900 All right, we are back from break, 1954 01:44:06,900 --> 01:44:10,680 and we have made it to public hearings. 1955 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,800 D1, conduct a public hearing and adopt 1956 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,200 a resolution approving the Manteca Transit Fixed-Route, 1957 01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,800 redesign network, and authorizing implementation 1958 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,440 of the proposed redesign Fixed-Route network, 1959 01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:25,440 effective October 1, 2026. 1960 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,400 Mayor and council, tonight we have transit manager, 1961 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:29,680 Juan Portillo. 1962 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,280 All right, transit my other favorite. 1963 01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,360 Can you turn that microphone on? 1964 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,220 Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, city council members. 1965 01:44:43,220 --> 01:44:47,200 Juan Portillo, transit manager with the Transit Division. 1966 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,600 This item is a public hearing to receive community input 1967 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,320 on the proposed Fixed-Route redesign network 1968 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,360 and adopt a resolution approving the network 1969 01:44:56,360 --> 01:45:00,120 and authorize staff to implement the redesign. 1970 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,120 Effective October 1, 2026. 1971 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,000 The Transit Division began a comprehensive evaluation 1972 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,880 of the city's fixed-route transit system 1973 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,280 in the fall of 2025. 1974 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,640 The evaluation was initiated in response 1975 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,240 to continued residential and community growth, 1976 01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:23,400 changing travel patterns, and evolving transportation needs 1977 01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,280 of the community. 1978 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,560 The city retained Fehr & Peers consultants 1979 01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,480 to evaluate the existing transit service, 1980 01:45:31,480 --> 01:45:33,720 analyzing ridership and travel patterns, 1981 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,320 and identifying service gaps and opportunities, 1982 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,680 and to develop the recommended network. 1983 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,450 The proposed network would replace the existing four 1984 01:45:43,450 --> 01:45:47,500 fixed-route service with five new routes. 1985 01:45:47,650 --> 01:45:50,470 Routes 2, 4 and 5 would operate Monday through Saturday, 1986 01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:55,270 while routes 1 and 3 would operate Monday through Friday. 1987 01:45:55,890 --> 01:45:58,770 Weekday service will begin at 5:30 AM. 1988 01:45:58,770 --> 01:46:03,450 Route 1, 3 would operate until 8:00 PM, while routes 2, and 4, 1989 01:46:03,450 --> 01:46:06,450 and 5 would operate until 9:00 PM. 1990 01:46:06,530 --> 01:46:08,430 Saturday service on routes 2, and 4, 1991 01:46:08,430 --> 01:46:12,490 and 5 would operate from 8:30 AM to 6:00 PM. 1992 01:46:12,490 --> 01:46:16,370 The proposed routes are intended to provide a simpler and more 1993 01:46:16,370 --> 01:46:17,730 direct transit network. 1994 01:46:17,730 --> 01:46:20,570 Paired routes would improve the two way travel 1995 01:46:20,570 --> 01:46:23,830 on major corridors including Main Street, Union Road, 1996 01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:26,830 Yosemite Avenue, and Louise Avenue, 1997 01:46:28,900 --> 01:46:29,810 without requiring passengers to ride 1998 01:46:29,810 --> 01:46:31,970 an entire loop to reach their destinations 1999 01:46:31,970 --> 01:46:33,970 in opposite direction. 2000 01:46:34,890 --> 01:46:36,930 Public participation was an important part 2001 01:46:36,930 --> 01:46:38,570 of the design process. 2002 01:46:38,570 --> 01:46:40,980 Outreach included four in-person workshops 2003 01:46:40,980 --> 01:46:43,380 at the Manteca Transit Center. 2004 01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:48,220 One was on January 29 and the other was May 11, 2026. 2005 01:46:48,220 --> 01:46:51,840 We also had a virtual workshop on June 3, 2026. 2006 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,340 We had onboard and online surveys. 2007 01:46:54,340 --> 01:46:56,740 And we did some outreach at the Manteca Senior Center 2008 01:46:56,740 --> 01:46:59,140 and Eskaton Senior Living. 2009 01:46:59,140 --> 01:47:03,340 And we participated in several community events. 2010 01:47:03,573 --> 01:47:05,740 The outreach materials that was provided and surveys 2011 01:47:05,740 --> 01:47:08,740 were also provided in Spanish. 2012 01:47:08,900 --> 01:47:11,980 And the project consultant presented the proposed service 2013 01:47:11,980 --> 01:47:15,580 concept to city council on June 16, 2026. 2014 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:17,860 And notice of tonight's public hearing 2015 01:47:17,860 --> 01:47:22,000 was published in the Manteca Bulletin on July 10, 2026, 2016 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,580 at least 30 days before the hearing. 2017 01:47:25,580 --> 01:47:27,980 I am available for any questions and invite 2018 01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:30,600 the Mayor Singh to open the public hearing process. 2019 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,220 Thank you. 2020 01:47:32,220 --> 01:47:39,420 All right, we will go ahead and open the public hearing at 8:15. 2021 01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:48,820 Do we have any public comments on Zoom? 2022 01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:55,140 I have attendees, but no hands raised for public comment 2023 01:47:55,140 --> 01:47:57,140 on item D1. 2024 01:47:57,500 --> 01:47:59,500 Any comment cards? 2025 01:48:01,340 --> 01:48:03,600 I have no comment cards. 2026 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:08,140 Anybody in the public who would like to speak on item D1? 2027 01:48:08,140 --> 01:48:10,260 I have a question. 2028 01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:15,700 And I'm just wondering if this 5 o'clock in the morning 2029 01:48:15,700 --> 01:48:20,140 start, it will have better service, maybe over to Lathrop, 2030 01:48:20,140 --> 01:48:25,540 so we can catch the early morning ACE train? 2031 01:48:26,540 --> 01:48:29,600 I think what they're asking is, Juan, 2032 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,560 is connection to the ACE station. 2033 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:32,320 Yes, correct. 2034 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:33,480 That's a great question. 2035 01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:35,400 And because we're starting out at 5:30, 2036 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:39,630 we're able to add one early morning shuttle to the ACE 2037 01:48:39,630 --> 01:48:40,130 train. 2038 01:48:40,130 --> 01:48:44,870 So yes, we're going to provide one more. 2039 01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:47,270 Looks like somebody's happy. 2040 01:48:48,230 --> 01:48:52,430 All right, [INAUDIBLE] come on up, sir. 2041 01:48:54,190 --> 01:48:58,990 So I appreciate city for extending the route 2042 01:49:00,430 --> 01:49:03,550 to the neighborhood so that Sierra High School 2043 01:49:03,550 --> 01:49:08,470 kids who were denied the bus service were able to use. 2044 01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:11,410 But it's on the morning route only. 2045 01:49:11,410 --> 01:49:16,700 But the evening route will take more than an hour to reach. 2046 01:49:16,700 --> 01:49:21,110 Will the new change of routes will operate in both directions 2047 01:49:21,110 --> 01:49:23,990 so that it will save time for the kids? 2048 01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:25,962 Thank you. 2049 01:49:25,962 --> 01:49:28,230 Juan, come on up. 2050 01:49:28,230 --> 01:49:31,830 I believe the school that he's mentioned is Sierra high school. 2051 01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:32,810 OK, perfect. 2052 01:49:32,810 --> 01:49:35,350 So Sierra high school is-- 2053 01:49:35,350 --> 01:49:37,960 and Manteca High is one of the lucky schools 2054 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,640 because we're going to have four fixed routes in the PM 2055 01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,400 to get them home. 2056 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,000 Currently, the students at Sierra High School 2057 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,732 are really taking advantage of the transportation system. 2058 01:49:47,732 --> 01:49:49,440 Currently, they get picked up and they're 2059 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:50,660 taken to the Transit Center. 2060 01:49:50,660 --> 01:49:54,647 And they can jump on different routes to get to their homes. 2061 01:49:54,647 --> 01:49:56,480 The only reason why we did it in the morning 2062 01:49:56,480 --> 01:50:00,680 was some communities there was a gap. 2063 01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,280 A couple of south side communities 2064 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,680 didn't have the service. 2065 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:09,160 So what we did is we heard from the residents. 2066 01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,680 And we had a tripper that gets them 2067 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,520 from this location like Crom up north 2068 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,480 and then straight to Sierra High School. 2069 01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:19,400 But on the return, Sierra has many routes 2070 01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:20,800 that will pick them up. 2071 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,240 They can go to the Transit Center. 2072 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,960 And then from there, they can take whichever route. 2073 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,760 There is a future route 6 that could 2074 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,120 be added that will do what the gentleman here is asking, is 2075 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,480 to pick up from Sierra and then go straight 2076 01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:36,800 to the south side of Manteca. 2077 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,200 But there is other routes that do go south. 2078 01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,220 It just doesn't go all the way south to, 2079 01:50:41,220 --> 01:50:45,420 for example, Griffith Park or Woodward park. 2080 01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:49,400 And I appreciate the route 5 and also appreciate 2081 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:53,000 the separate Sierra High School tripper. 2082 01:50:53,880 --> 01:51:00,480 Anybody else in the public want to speak on this item? 2083 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:05,840 OK, seeing none, I'll go ahead and bring it back to council. 2084 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:11,840 I will go ahead and close the public hearing at 8:18. 2085 01:51:14,480 --> 01:51:15,880 OK, council. 2086 01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:17,880 Council Member, Halford. 2087 01:51:19,995 --> 01:51:22,995 Sounds like a good plan. 2088 01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,840 Vice Mayor. 2089 01:51:26,292 --> 01:51:28,500 Thank you for all the work that you've put into this. 2090 01:51:28,500 --> 01:51:31,240 I know it's been a long few months 2091 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,930 of making sure all this information gets out there. 2092 01:51:33,930 --> 01:51:38,130 And I do appreciate the new route. 2093 01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:41,100 Council Member Breitenbucher. 2094 01:51:41,500 --> 01:51:45,210 Juan, thank you for listening to the citizens and their input 2095 01:51:45,210 --> 01:51:47,550 and implementing into the route. 2096 01:51:47,550 --> 01:51:48,770 So thank you again. 2097 01:51:48,770 --> 01:51:50,130 Welcome. 2098 01:51:50,130 --> 01:51:52,130 Council Member Morowit. 2099 01:51:52,570 --> 01:51:53,470 I appreciate it. 2100 01:51:53,470 --> 01:51:56,370 I think now we have a much more robust transportation 2101 01:51:56,370 --> 01:51:57,410 in Manteca. 2102 01:51:57,410 --> 01:51:59,170 Before people would complain. 2103 01:51:59,170 --> 01:52:01,700 And now we have kids going to schools. 2104 01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:03,590 We have more seniors involved. 2105 01:52:03,590 --> 01:52:05,578 People can get from one place to the other. 2106 01:52:05,578 --> 01:52:07,370 It used to be like an hour, hour and a half 2107 01:52:07,370 --> 01:52:09,190 sometimes to wait if you missed the bus. 2108 01:52:09,190 --> 01:52:11,610 So it's now becoming more with the Bay Area envision, 2109 01:52:11,610 --> 01:52:14,470 where we envision what the Bay Area transit has done, 2110 01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:16,470 so thank you. 2111 01:52:18,250 --> 01:52:20,290 Yeah, I'd like to say thank you, Juan. 2112 01:52:20,290 --> 01:52:22,700 Thank you for listening. 2113 01:52:22,700 --> 01:52:24,900 Thank you for also getting out there in the public 2114 01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:25,790 and sharing a lot of this information. 2115 01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:29,890 We saw you at multiple events and community events. 2116 01:52:29,890 --> 01:52:33,300 And also understanding some of the limitations 2117 01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:35,280 when it comes to school district, and the bus service, 2118 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,900 and making sure we're also helping and doing our part 2119 01:52:38,900 --> 01:52:42,440 in giving them access to the school. 2120 01:52:42,440 --> 01:52:45,180 And especially the south side of the community, 2121 01:52:45,180 --> 01:52:48,260 where some of the bus service is not available. 2122 01:52:48,260 --> 01:52:51,860 I'm really liking the extra services. 2123 01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:56,640 And then also a lot of the south that are taking the ACE train. 2124 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,220 So I like the ACE shuttle service also 2125 01:52:59,220 --> 01:53:02,560 that can transfer and switch over once ACE is done. 2126 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,160 So this is great. 2127 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:08,360 And I think we're truly becoming transit 2128 01:53:08,620 --> 01:53:10,840 oriented from where we started. 2129 01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:11,820 We've come a long way. 2130 01:53:11,820 --> 01:53:16,580 And I feel we're going to have that route 6 probably 2131 01:53:16,580 --> 01:53:19,300 going to be coming soon in the horizon too. 2132 01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:20,640 So thank you for all your work. 2133 01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,900 And with that, I'll go ahead and entertain a motion. 2134 01:53:23,900 --> 01:53:24,568 Second. 2135 01:53:24,568 --> 01:53:26,360 OK, I have a motion from Vice Mayor Lackey, 2136 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,360 second from Council Member Breitenbucher 2137 01:53:29,740 --> 01:53:32,780 to adopt a resolution approving the Manteca Transit Fixed-Route 2138 01:53:32,780 --> 01:53:35,780 redesign network and authorizing the implementation 2139 01:53:35,780 --> 01:53:38,360 of the proposed redesigned fixed route network. 2140 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,360 Effective October 1, 2026. 2141 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:42,180 All in favor, say aye. 2142 01:53:42,180 --> 01:53:43,600 Aye. 2143 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:43,740 Opposed? 2144 01:53:43,740 --> 01:53:45,460 Motion carries 5-0. 2145 01:53:45,460 --> 01:53:46,540 Thank you. 2146 01:53:46,540 --> 01:53:48,426 Thank you, Juan. 2147 01:53:48,426 --> 01:53:52,660 D2, to conduct a public hearing and consider an addendum 2148 01:53:52,660 --> 01:53:57,380 to the City of Manteca General Plan Update EIR prepared 2149 01:53:57,380 --> 01:54:00,980 for the batch GPA sites 1 through 4, 2150 01:54:01,540 --> 01:54:03,940 project pursuant to sections 15162 2151 01:54:05,740 --> 01:54:09,940 and 15164 of the California Environmental Quality Act 2152 01:54:10,820 --> 01:54:14,600 guidelines, adopt a resolution approving General Plan 2153 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,740 Amendment, amending the land use designation of the project 2154 01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:22,340 parcels identified in sites 1 through 4 project 2155 01:54:24,340 --> 01:54:27,260 and waive the first reading by substitution of the title 2156 01:54:27,260 --> 01:54:29,700 and introduce an ordinance of the City 2157 01:54:29,700 --> 01:54:32,330 Council of the City of Manteca, State of California, 2158 01:54:32,330 --> 01:54:37,130 amending the zoning map set forth in Section 17.20.040 2159 01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:44,750 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca Municipal Code 2160 01:54:45,310 --> 01:54:49,590 by rezoning the project parcels identified in sites 1 through 4 2161 01:54:49,590 --> 01:54:50,830 project. 2162 01:54:50,830 --> 01:54:56,830 Mayor and council, tonight we have a associate planner, Sol. 2163 01:54:57,150 --> 01:54:59,650 Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council. 2164 01:54:59,650 --> 01:55:01,550 My name is Sol Jobrack, associate planner 2165 01:55:01,550 --> 01:55:03,310 in development services. 2166 01:55:03,310 --> 01:55:04,970 The resolution is-- it was a mouthful. 2167 01:55:04,970 --> 01:55:08,190 I'm going to try to keep this item quicker for you all 2168 01:55:08,190 --> 01:55:09,450 to enjoy. 2169 01:55:09,450 --> 01:55:12,910 So this is a city initiated general plan amendment 2170 01:55:12,910 --> 01:55:15,190 and zoning map amendment involving four sites located 2171 01:55:15,190 --> 01:55:17,190 throughout the city. 2172 01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:20,950 The four sites total approximately 32.91 acres. 2173 01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:23,670 And the proposed amendments update the general plan 2174 01:55:23,670 --> 01:55:26,510 and zoning designations for these properties. 2175 01:55:26,510 --> 01:55:29,780 No specific developments are being approved tonight. 2176 01:55:29,780 --> 01:55:34,200 The planning commission did approve this item 5 to 0 2177 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,200 on June 18. 2178 01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:41,920 The amendments are intended to maintain consistency 2179 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,820 between the general plan and zoning maps, 2180 01:55:44,820 --> 01:55:47,520 support future public infrastructure planning, 2181 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:52,160 and provide additional housing opportunities for the community. 2182 01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,510 This slide here is proposing-- 2183 01:55:54,510 --> 01:55:56,760 it compares the existing and the proposed general plan 2184 01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,540 designations. 2185 01:55:57,540 --> 01:56:00,280 As you can see, site 1 adds a commercial area 2186 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,400 along East Bronson Road. 2187 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,400 Site 2 adjusts boundaries between a high density 2188 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,520 residential and a public quasi public area. 2189 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,280 Site 3 changes the northern portion 2190 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,760 from commercial to public quasi public. 2191 01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:18,420 And site 4, while it's correct in the attachments tonight, 2192 01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:20,480 this does show that the PQP. 2193 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,500 That is not the case. 2194 01:56:21,500 --> 01:56:23,340 It is staying and remaining as commercial. 2195 01:56:23,340 --> 01:56:26,440 The only change we're proposing is the medium density 2196 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,900 residential along the eastern portion of that property. 2197 01:56:30,900 --> 01:56:33,100 The proposed zoning map amendments, 2198 01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:35,440 are intended to correspond with the proposed general 2199 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:36,640 plan amendments. 2200 01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:40,600 A very identifying or identical to the general plan 2201 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,480 designations. 2202 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:46,720 Staff finds that the amendments are consistent with the 2043 2203 01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:48,160 general plan. 2204 01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,800 These changes support orderly growth, additional housing 2205 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,200 opportunities, public facility planning, 2206 01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:58,200 and a balanced mix of land uses throughout the city. 2207 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:02,200 An addendum to the general plan EIR was prepared. 2208 01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:06,240 And staff determined that no subsequent or supplemental ER 2209 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:07,640 is required. 2210 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:11,400 Staff recommends that the city council consider the addendum, 2211 01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:12,920 approve the general plan amendment 2212 01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,160 and approve the zoning map amendment. 2213 01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:17,660 That concludes staff's presentation. 2214 01:57:17,660 --> 01:57:19,827 We're happy to answer any questions if you have any. 2215 01:57:19,827 --> 01:57:21,200 Thank you. 2216 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,200 Thank you, Sol. 2217 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,130 OK, we'll go ahead-- and is there any questions from council 2218 01:57:27,130 --> 01:57:30,210 before I open up the public hearing? 2219 01:57:30,210 --> 01:57:36,810 OK, we'll go ahead and open up the public hearing at 8:25. 2220 01:57:37,330 --> 01:57:40,930 Any questions or comments on Zoom? 2221 01:57:46,490 --> 01:57:49,210 I have attendees, but no hands raised for public comment 2222 01:57:49,210 --> 01:57:51,210 on item D2. 2223 01:57:51,250 --> 01:57:52,850 OK. 2224 01:57:52,850 --> 01:57:53,650 Comment cards? 2225 01:57:53,650 --> 01:57:55,370 I have two comment cards. 2226 01:57:55,370 --> 01:57:58,370 The first one is [INAUDIBLE]. 2227 01:58:03,330 --> 01:58:06,500 Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, council members, 2228 01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:08,250 and the members of the public. 2229 01:58:08,250 --> 01:58:10,930 My name is [INAUDIBLE], and I am a resident concerned about 2230 01:58:10,930 --> 01:58:16,100 the proposed general plan amendment GPA 26-0052 and its 2231 01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:19,650 impact on the site for proposed [INAUDIBLE] school. 2232 01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:22,650 I want to bring attention to the city's existing general plan 2233 01:58:22,650 --> 01:58:25,780 that has clear policies that require cooperation 2234 01:58:25,780 --> 01:58:29,180 with this school district to protect school sites, which 2235 01:58:29,180 --> 01:58:31,580 is the foundation for my opposition. 2236 01:58:31,580 --> 01:58:33,700 I'm here to clarify that any amendment that 2237 01:58:33,700 --> 01:58:36,260 fails to protect the school site or allows 2238 01:58:36,260 --> 01:58:38,740 incompatible development on its land 2239 01:58:38,740 --> 01:58:41,740 directly contradicts these existing policies. 2240 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,580 This land is intended to serve a public purpose, specifically 2241 01:58:45,580 --> 01:58:49,940 as a future school site, as our community continues to grow. 2242 01:58:49,940 --> 01:58:52,420 The need for educational facilities 2243 01:58:52,420 --> 01:58:54,340 becomes increasingly important. 2244 01:58:54,340 --> 01:58:56,340 Once land designated for public use 2245 01:58:56,340 --> 01:58:59,200 is converted to residential or commercial development, 2246 01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:01,840 it becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible, 2247 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,140 to recover suitable land for future school construction. 2248 01:59:05,140 --> 01:59:08,740 My concern is not only the loss of the school site itself, 2249 01:59:08,740 --> 01:59:11,340 but also the long term impact of residential development 2250 01:59:11,340 --> 01:59:13,700 adjacent to the future school. 2251 01:59:13,700 --> 01:59:16,500 Residential projects can create constraints on future school 2252 01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:19,820 operations, including traffic circulation challenges, parking 2253 01:59:19,820 --> 01:59:23,420 conflicts, noise complaints, student safety concerns, 2254 01:59:23,420 --> 01:59:26,140 and limitations on future school expansion. 2255 01:59:26,140 --> 01:59:28,260 These issues can complicate and potentially 2256 01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:31,860 jeopardize the successful development of a school 2257 01:59:31,860 --> 01:59:35,180 that our community may urgently need in the near future. 2258 01:59:35,180 --> 01:59:37,380 Furthermore, approving rezoning the site 2259 01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:39,460 may provide a short-term solution 2260 01:59:39,460 --> 01:59:41,980 for housing or commercial needs while sacrificing 2261 01:59:41,980 --> 01:59:44,380 a long-term community assets. 2262 01:59:44,540 --> 01:59:46,780 Schools are critical public infrastructure that 2263 01:59:46,780 --> 01:59:49,180 serves generations of families. 2264 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,840 We should be planning not only for today's need, 2265 01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:56,140 but also for the needs for our children and future residents. 2266 01:59:56,140 --> 01:59:58,140 I therefore demand the city commit 2267 01:59:58,140 --> 02:00:01,420 in writing to upholding its policies, specifically 2268 02:00:01,420 --> 02:00:04,700 policy PF-13 and PF P-32 by rejecting 2269 02:00:04,700 --> 02:00:08,180 any land use changes that would jeopardize the school site. 2270 02:00:08,180 --> 02:00:10,700 I respectfully ask the decision makers 2271 02:00:10,700 --> 02:00:12,940 to consider the lasting value of preserving 2272 02:00:12,940 --> 02:00:16,700 this land for public use and educational purposes. 2273 02:00:16,700 --> 02:00:18,600 Before approving any zoning conversion, 2274 02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,710 the city should conduct a thorough evaluation 2275 02:00:21,710 --> 02:00:25,150 of future school needs, population growth projections, 2276 02:00:25,150 --> 02:00:26,790 and alternative sites that could serve 2277 02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:30,510 the public interest without eliminating a potential school 2278 02:00:30,510 --> 02:00:31,750 location. 2279 02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:34,230 Once the land is converted and developed, 2280 02:00:34,230 --> 02:00:38,390 the opportunity to use it for a school may be lost forever. 2281 02:00:38,390 --> 02:00:41,390 For that reason, I urge you to reject the proposed zoning 2282 02:00:41,390 --> 02:00:45,190 amendment and preserve the site for its intended public purpose. 2283 02:00:45,190 --> 02:00:47,230 In the end, I would like to reiterate 2284 02:00:47,230 --> 02:00:49,710 that I oppose any amendment that does not explicitly 2285 02:00:49,710 --> 02:00:52,750 protect the school from incompatible adjacent 2286 02:00:52,750 --> 02:00:55,805 and on its land uses or reduce land availability. 2287 02:00:55,805 --> 02:00:57,430 Thank you for your time and cooperation 2288 02:00:57,430 --> 02:01:00,110 and thanks for the opportunity to speak up. 2289 02:01:00,110 --> 02:01:02,110 Thank you. 2290 02:01:03,870 --> 02:01:04,730 Next comment card. 2291 02:01:04,730 --> 02:01:08,930 The last card I have is [INAUDIBLE]. 2292 02:01:11,510 --> 02:01:14,510 Good evening, council, fellow residents. 2293 02:01:18,870 --> 02:01:22,880 This is regarding the site 2 and site 1. 2294 02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,280 So both are interrelated. 2295 02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:30,120 And while we appreciate the increase for 2 acre 2296 02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:34,280 land for the fire station, the decrease 2297 02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:41,480 of school site of 0.82 acre from PQP to HDR should be denied. 2298 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:49,960 And if city wants to use it for future use, public use, 2299 02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,800 that's better for public use. 2300 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,220 And if it is unable to use for public use, 2301 02:01:55,220 --> 02:01:58,820 it should be returned to MUSD. 2302 02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:03,320 I'm not sure when 2 by 2 meetings with MUSD 2303 02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:05,720 happens for the growth. 2304 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:11,800 When school district says it's a surplus land 2305 02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:18,280 or it's not a building that is space allocated to that 1 acre. 2306 02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:23,880 Why did the city not stand with public 2307 02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:27,600 and ask, what about the future projection? 2308 02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,840 So what about the future expansion. 2309 02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,640 The three schools that were proposed, 2310 02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:38,240 the Lathrop had a future building and a future bus drop 2311 02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:39,720 off planning. 2312 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:45,720 Why did not city have requested for an adequate land 2313 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,400 to be allocated. 2314 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:53,400 Instead, it is being given to a high density residential. 2315 02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:57,400 Also, there is no truth in loss of 1 2316 02:02:57,400 --> 02:02:59,640 acre for the private developer. 2317 02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:05,640 The site 1, which the city owns as an R1 zoning 2318 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,840 is being converted to commercial zone 2319 02:03:08,840 --> 02:03:12,400 and given to the same private developer. 2320 02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:17,210 The cost of the site 2 or a residential land is 2321 02:03:17,210 --> 02:03:19,610 approximately 200k to 300k. 2322 02:03:20,530 --> 02:03:26,530 So for the 1.82 acre that the private developer is giving, 2323 02:03:27,510 --> 02:03:34,500 it costs around 400k, but the site he is receiving on the 0.94 2324 02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:38,650 on the freeway exit being converted to commercial is close 2325 02:03:38,650 --> 02:03:39,790 to a million. 2326 02:03:39,790 --> 02:03:45,170 That means he has a profit of more than 500k profit. 2327 02:03:45,170 --> 02:03:47,490 City could have requested more land 2328 02:03:47,490 --> 02:03:50,810 for the exchange instead of reducing the school 2329 02:03:50,810 --> 02:03:53,810 site from PQP to HDR. 2330 02:03:54,970 --> 02:03:57,330 They could have asked 2 more acres 2331 02:03:57,330 --> 02:04:00,730 to compensate the equal value so that we 2332 02:04:00,730 --> 02:04:03,130 have enough public facilities. 2333 02:04:03,290 --> 02:04:04,450 Thank you. 2334 02:04:04,450 --> 02:04:06,850 And in that facility, there could 2335 02:04:06,850 --> 02:04:11,500 have been a community [INAUDIBLE] program that 2336 02:04:11,250 --> 02:04:15,900 can be distributed across four corners, which 2337 02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:17,160 would be of a good public use. 2338 02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,160 Thank you. 2339 02:04:21,820 --> 02:04:23,220 That's all the cards. 2340 02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:30,420 Anybody else in the public would like to speak on item D.2? 2341 02:04:33,460 --> 02:04:36,220 OK, seeing none, I will go ahead and close the public hearing 2342 02:04:36,220 --> 02:04:38,220 at 8:32. 2343 02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:46,460 I have a question. 2344 02:04:48,220 --> 02:04:51,820 Has the school, MUSD, ever approached 2345 02:04:51,820 --> 02:04:56,540 the city regarding the site that they needed more space, they 2346 02:04:56,540 --> 02:05:01,200 didn't want to do this change or anything from the school 2347 02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:05,380 district that they need more space for their school? 2348 02:05:05,380 --> 02:05:09,600 I can defer to the director on that question. 2349 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,740 I can unequivocally say, though, the school district has not 2350 02:05:12,740 --> 02:05:16,580 made any comment about the loss of the 1 acre 2351 02:05:16,580 --> 02:05:18,940 and how it might impact their school site. 2352 02:05:18,940 --> 02:05:22,320 In fact, I can say that, in conversations with them, 2353 02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:24,780 it does not jeopardize the number of students, the design 2354 02:05:24,780 --> 02:05:27,120 of the school at all. 2355 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:30,620 And that's why when we went to the settlement negotiations, 2356 02:05:30,620 --> 02:05:34,920 they were willing to transfer that 1 acre of land to the city, 2357 02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:36,220 so that we do-- 2358 02:05:36,220 --> 02:05:40,660 are able to acquire the 2 acres to build the fire station. 2359 02:05:40,660 --> 02:05:43,780 And they agree with this general plan amendment? 2360 02:05:43,780 --> 02:05:46,680 We have been in communication as part of this. 2361 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:47,700 They're aware. 2362 02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:51,392 They are also taking the 1 acre donation to the state, 2363 02:05:51,392 --> 02:05:53,100 September 9th and 10th for their meeting, 2364 02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:55,200 as part of this donation to the city. 2365 02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:59,340 They're aware of the change, both to the HDR piece, as well 2366 02:05:59,340 --> 02:06:01,560 as the PQP fire station site. 2367 02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,700 They've been involved in the conversation for some time. 2368 02:06:04,700 --> 02:06:06,700 Yeah. 2369 02:06:06,940 --> 02:06:10,380 Do you know if there's going to be a bus stop over there? 2370 02:06:10,380 --> 02:06:13,300 I am unaware if there will be a bus stop 2371 02:06:13,300 --> 02:06:14,530 or where it would be located. 2372 02:06:14,530 --> 02:06:17,700 I have not gotten into that conversation with the school 2373 02:06:17,700 --> 02:06:19,700 district. 2374 02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:26,700 All right, Council Member Morowit. 2375 02:06:29,390 --> 02:06:33,350 So basically, this is because we're not using the school site 2376 02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:37,350 and we're converting it back, is that basically the reason? 2377 02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:39,210 Well, thank you, Council Member. 2378 02:06:39,210 --> 02:06:41,510 So actually with these items, we don't consider uses. 2379 02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:44,925 So uses are a separate issue, completely separate discussion. 2380 02:06:44,925 --> 02:06:46,550 What we're trying to do is align things 2381 02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:49,130 with what potential uses could be. 2382 02:06:49,130 --> 02:06:51,650 So under PQP, it could be a list of them. 2383 02:06:51,650 --> 02:06:54,630 It just so happens that there's this stuff going 2384 02:06:54,630 --> 02:06:57,370 on in the background that's related. 2385 02:06:57,370 --> 02:06:58,410 But who knows? 2386 02:06:58,410 --> 02:07:00,470 The fire station could evaporate tomorrow. 2387 02:07:00,470 --> 02:07:02,470 And it's all PQP and could be used for a school. 2388 02:07:02,470 --> 02:07:03,510 We don't know. 2389 02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:06,510 We try to align it to be able to accommodate this project 2390 02:07:06,510 --> 02:07:08,430 or any future project. 2391 02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:10,230 For government use, basically. 2392 02:07:10,230 --> 02:07:11,900 For public use. 2393 02:07:11,900 --> 02:07:14,420 Public use, I mean, which is-- so not just for homes, 2394 02:07:14,420 --> 02:07:15,300 it's for public use. 2395 02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:19,280 It's actually an increase in that public use acreage 2396 02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,200 and a decrease in residential acreage. 2397 02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:22,220 That's the purpose of this? 2398 02:07:22,220 --> 02:07:27,400 And this is, like you say, to make sure it balances. 2399 02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,340 General plans are not just-- they're just a road map. 2400 02:07:30,340 --> 02:07:31,900 They're an overlay. 2401 02:07:31,900 --> 02:07:34,142 It doesn't mean it happens, but we prepare for it 2402 02:07:34,142 --> 02:07:35,600 so that if it does, they don't have 2403 02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,960 to go through the long process of changing it 2404 02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:39,940 again so that people know. 2405 02:07:39,940 --> 02:07:42,560 So developers, and schools, and public entities 2406 02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,760 know that if they use this land, it's 2407 02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:48,200 already set up for, in this case, maybe for public use. 2408 02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,680 We don't know what dictates public use yet. 2409 02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,560 And honestly, we want to make sure these lines are 2410 02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:55,217 appropriate to what is envisioned. 2411 02:07:55,217 --> 02:07:56,800 If they're not, we could likely end up 2412 02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:58,760 with a use that's on a zoning designation that 2413 02:07:58,760 --> 02:07:59,620 isn't consistent. 2414 02:07:59,620 --> 02:08:02,120 And we've created a bigger problem. 2415 02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:08,200 So it's a better road map for the city in the future. 2416 02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:08,960 I appreciate that. 2417 02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:09,460 Thank you. 2418 02:08:09,460 --> 02:08:11,460 Thank you. 2419 02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:15,800 All right, thank you, Council Member Breitenbucher. 2420 02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:20,720 So Brad, there was a thing that was sent to us. 2421 02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:25,520 And it had the goals that was listed. 2422 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:29,340 And so I looked it up, the general plan, right? 2423 02:08:29,340 --> 02:08:33,900 And it talks about the corps division of labor, 2424 02:08:33,900 --> 02:08:37,800 MUSD's responsibility is an independent governmental agency 2425 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:41,300 solely responsible for funding, designing, constructing, 2426 02:08:41,300 --> 02:08:43,960 and operation all public school facilities. 2427 02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:46,380 City of Manteca does not build schools. 2428 02:08:46,380 --> 02:08:48,960 Instead, its role is defined in land use planning, zoning, 2429 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,800 and coordination to ensure there is space for the schools 2430 02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:53,200 as a community grows. 2431 02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,600 That's the process we're doing today. 2432 02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:56,240 Correct? 2433 02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:57,720 That is part of the process. 2434 02:08:57,720 --> 02:08:58,420 We are planning. 2435 02:08:58,420 --> 02:09:01,200 I will note that the city development services and staff 2436 02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:03,440 do have quarterly meetings with the school district 2437 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,620 in collaboration on these topics. 2438 02:09:05,620 --> 02:09:08,720 So we are meeting to identify, not only 2439 02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:10,290 the issues with this site and how 2440 02:09:10,290 --> 02:09:12,370 we can move forward, but also others as well. 2441 02:09:12,370 --> 02:09:16,810 And then on the goals, the land allocation goal, LU-7, city 2442 02:09:16,810 --> 02:09:19,250 ensures that enough land is zoned for public and quasi 2443 02:09:19,250 --> 02:09:22,450 public use, preventing residential growth from entirely 2444 02:09:22,450 --> 02:09:25,250 crowding out space needed for future schools and parks. 2445 02:09:25,250 --> 02:09:27,100 We've met that goal. 2446 02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:27,630 Yes, we have. 2447 02:09:27,630 --> 02:09:29,930 And two of the proposed general plan amendments 2448 02:09:29,930 --> 02:09:33,370 go further in terms of adding additional public quasi public 2449 02:09:33,370 --> 02:09:36,923 or public use acreage within the city. 2450 02:09:36,923 --> 02:09:38,590 And the next one is growth coordination. 2451 02:09:38,590 --> 02:09:41,900 The city shares its population housing growth forecast 2452 02:09:41,900 --> 02:09:43,570 with MUSD, so the district can accurately 2453 02:09:43,570 --> 02:09:45,900 predict future student enrollment 2454 02:09:45,900 --> 02:09:47,630 and plan where to buy land for new campuses. 2455 02:09:47,630 --> 02:09:48,750 And we do that too, right? 2456 02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:51,308 Yes, we provide them data, if not quarterly, 2457 02:09:51,308 --> 02:09:52,850 more often as they request it so they 2458 02:09:52,850 --> 02:09:55,530 can project those student numbers. 2459 02:09:55,530 --> 02:09:58,330 And then neighborhood design goals CD 4.7. 2460 02:09:58,330 --> 02:10:00,130 The city designs urban master plan 2461 02:10:00,130 --> 02:10:03,230 so that new neighborhoods are built with central hubs, 2462 02:10:03,230 --> 02:10:05,250 ideally placing elementary schools 2463 02:10:05,250 --> 02:10:07,810 or parks within a safe half mile walking 2464 02:10:07,810 --> 02:10:09,572 distance for local families. 2465 02:10:09,572 --> 02:10:11,780 And we have been working on that in our general plan. 2466 02:10:11,780 --> 02:10:13,540 Correct, the 2024 general plan update 2467 02:10:13,540 --> 02:10:16,680 has several of those central core areas, 2468 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,980 whether it's HDR, high density residential commercial. 2469 02:10:19,980 --> 02:10:24,200 PQP, they're built within that central core to that goal, yes. 2470 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,200 OK, thank you. 2471 02:10:26,820 --> 02:10:29,220 All right, Vice Mayor. 2472 02:10:32,900 --> 02:10:34,540 Council Member Breitenbucher, you 2473 02:10:34,540 --> 02:10:36,780 did a really good job asking all my questions. 2474 02:10:36,780 --> 02:10:37,360 Thank you. 2475 02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,360 Welcome. 2476 02:10:40,420 --> 02:10:42,420 Council Member, Halford. 2477 02:10:44,780 --> 02:10:45,900 Pretty much, ditto. 2478 02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:48,300 They've covered it all. 2479 02:10:50,860 --> 02:10:53,260 It all make sense. 2480 02:10:53,780 --> 02:10:55,300 Obviously, there's some disagreement 2481 02:10:55,300 --> 02:11:02,540 on what some people feel on the PQP and the [INAUDIBLE] the HDR. 2482 02:11:02,540 --> 02:11:08,940 The net gain of PQP, fire station is very much needed. 2483 02:11:08,940 --> 02:11:12,840 And district is happy with [INAUDIBLE] that they have, 2484 02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:14,740 in addition to the other school sites, 2485 02:11:14,740 --> 02:11:19,540 are available in the southwest portion of town. 2486 02:11:22,620 --> 02:11:25,340 The section that has been quoted, 2487 02:11:25,340 --> 02:11:29,220 the operative word in there is or, that it's 2488 02:11:29,220 --> 02:11:33,940 a park, a school, or a commercial use area that's 2489 02:11:33,940 --> 02:11:35,820 within a half a mile. 2490 02:11:35,820 --> 02:11:43,200 And I would believe that I'm not aware of any subdivisions that 2491 02:11:43,460 --> 02:11:46,420 have been built that don't have a park within a half a mile 2492 02:11:46,420 --> 02:11:48,420 walking. 2493 02:11:49,540 --> 02:11:52,000 I mean, I stand to be corrected if there are any, 2494 02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:53,860 but I'm not aware of it. 2495 02:11:53,860 --> 02:11:55,360 So I'm supportive. 2496 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:57,360 Thank you. 2497 02:11:57,380 --> 02:11:59,380 Thank you. 2498 02:11:59,740 --> 02:12:03,340 Maybe one more question regarding schools. 2499 02:12:03,780 --> 02:12:06,750 Are we the one that decides how big or large 2500 02:12:06,750 --> 02:12:10,270 a school site should be or is that a school district? 2501 02:12:10,270 --> 02:12:12,330 That's a school district decision. 2502 02:12:12,330 --> 02:12:14,470 However, we do work with them to identify 2503 02:12:14,470 --> 02:12:16,630 sites that would potentially be large enough as we go through, 2504 02:12:16,630 --> 02:12:19,130 not only the general plan update, a few years ago, 2505 02:12:19,130 --> 02:12:22,790 but also as we move forward with future annexation potential 2506 02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:23,630 sites. 2507 02:12:23,630 --> 02:12:25,830 So the school district tells us how much 2508 02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:28,390 land they potentially would need and to make 2509 02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:30,770 sure the general plan is zoned. 2510 02:12:30,770 --> 02:12:31,410 Correct? 2511 02:12:31,410 --> 02:12:33,410 Correct. 2512 02:12:36,700 --> 02:12:38,210 All right, if there's no any other questions, 2513 02:12:38,210 --> 02:12:39,370 I'll entertain a motion. 2514 02:12:39,370 --> 02:12:40,910 So moved. 2515 02:12:40,910 --> 02:12:41,950 Second 2516 02:12:41,950 --> 02:12:44,210 OK, I have a motion from Council Member Breitenbucher. 2517 02:12:44,210 --> 02:12:47,700 Second from Council Member Halford to adopt a resolution 2518 02:12:47,700 --> 02:12:49,750 approving general plan amendment amending the land use 2519 02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:53,670 designation of the project parcels identified in sites 1 2520 02:12:53,670 --> 02:12:57,470 through 4 project and waive the first reading by substitution 2521 02:12:57,470 --> 02:13:00,670 of the title and introduce an ordinance of the city council 2522 02:13:00,670 --> 02:13:02,930 and the City of Manteca, State of California, 2523 02:13:02,930 --> 02:13:07,730 amending the zoning map set forth in Section 17.20.040 2524 02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:13,440 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca Municipal Code 2525 02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:17,480 by rezoning the project parcels identified in sites 1 through 4 2526 02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:18,580 project rezone. 2527 02:13:18,580 --> 02:13:19,680 All in favor say aye. 2528 02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:20,520 Aye. 2529 02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:21,360 Opposed? 2530 02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,360 Motion carries 5-0. 2531 02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:26,320 That takes us to D.3. 2532 02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:29,440 Conduct a public hearing for the Yosemite mixed use conversion 2533 02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:33,600 batch GPA site five project and adopt a resolution 2534 02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:37,760 making the necessary findings to adopt an initial study mitigated 2535 02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,360 negative declaration and its associated mitigation, 2536 02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:45,960 monitoring and reporting program prepared for the project, 2537 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:50,160 adopt a resolution approving a general plan amendment, 2538 02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:55,480 redesignating the project parcel identified in the batch GPA site 2539 02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:58,800 5 project, and waive the first reading by substitution 2540 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:01,560 of the title, and introduce an ordinance of the city 2541 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:03,920 council of the City of Manteca, 2542 02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:08,800 State of California amending the zoning map set forth in Section 2543 02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:12,280 17.20.040 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca 2544 02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:22,400 Municipal Code by rezoning the batch GPA site 5 parcels from 2545 02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:27,520 public quasi public planned development, light industrial, 2546 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:33,000 and limited multiple family dwelling to the mixed use 2547 02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,000 commercial zoning district. 2548 02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:39,480 Again, we have associate planner, Sol. 2549 02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:43,280 Mayor and members of the city council, Sol Jobrack, again, 2550 02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:45,480 speaking on this item. 2551 02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:48,960 The item before you is the Yosemite mixed use conversion 2552 02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:49,460 project. 2553 02:14:49,460 --> 02:14:51,800 We've also identified it as batch general 2554 02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:53,800 plan amendment site 5. 2555 02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,880 This is a city initiated Amendment involving 2556 02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:01,480 approximately 22.95 acres located Southwest of Yosemite 2557 02:15:03,290 --> 02:15:05,170 and South Airport Way. 2558 02:15:05,170 --> 02:15:07,930 The project area consists of 10 parcels identified 2559 02:15:07,930 --> 02:15:10,210 on the slide is intended to establish 2560 02:15:10,210 --> 02:15:12,930 consistent general plan and zoning designations 2561 02:15:12,930 --> 02:15:14,930 throughout the project area. 2562 02:15:14,930 --> 02:15:17,970 The planning commission did consider this item at its June 2563 02:15:17,970 --> 02:15:21,570 18th meeting and recommended approval 5-0. 2564 02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:25,170 The amendment is being proposed to resolve the existing 2565 02:15:25,170 --> 02:15:28,450 inconsistencies between the general plan and zoning maps 2566 02:15:28,450 --> 02:15:31,730 and establish a unified commercial mixed use land 2567 02:15:31,730 --> 02:15:33,210 use pattern. 2568 02:15:33,210 --> 02:15:34,890 The commercial mixed use designation 2569 02:15:34,890 --> 02:15:37,970 would support future residential and commercial development 2570 02:15:37,970 --> 02:15:40,970 opportunities and encourage infill development 2571 02:15:40,970 --> 02:15:43,570 within the existing urbanized area. 2572 02:15:43,570 --> 02:15:46,290 The amendment also advances the general plan's housing 2573 02:15:46,290 --> 02:15:50,330 and economic development goals by creating greater flexibility 2574 02:15:50,330 --> 02:15:53,930 for future development of these areas. 2575 02:15:54,900 --> 02:15:56,890 This slide compares the existing and proposed general plan 2576 02:15:56,890 --> 02:15:58,570 amendments. 2577 02:15:58,570 --> 02:16:02,600 The approximate 23 acre project site area currently 2578 02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:05,638 contains several general plan designations and the cleanup 2579 02:16:05,638 --> 02:16:07,180 proposed general plan amendment would 2580 02:16:07,180 --> 02:16:10,900 designate the entire project as commercial mixed use. 2581 02:16:10,900 --> 02:16:14,100 This would create one consistent land use designation 2582 02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:16,100 across all parcels. 2583 02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:19,960 This here is the zoning map amendment. 2584 02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:23,260 It compares the existing and proposed zoning designations. 2585 02:16:23,260 --> 02:16:26,340 This is to correspond with the proposed general plan 2586 02:16:26,340 --> 02:16:29,340 designations from the previous slide. 2587 02:16:29,820 --> 02:16:33,100 Staff did evaluate the proposed amendments for consistency 2588 02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:36,379 with the 2043 general plan and found that the proposed 2589 02:16:36,379 --> 02:16:38,379 amendments are in the public's interest 2590 02:16:38,379 --> 02:16:41,979 and consistent with the general plan. 2591 02:16:42,420 --> 02:16:45,620 Staff recommends that the city council conduct a public hearing 2592 02:16:45,620 --> 02:16:47,160 and take the following actions. 2593 02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,379 First, we ask that you adopt the initial study, 2594 02:16:49,379 --> 02:16:51,620 and mitigated negative declaration, 2595 02:16:51,620 --> 02:16:54,219 and the associated mitigation, monitoring and reporting 2596 02:16:54,219 --> 02:16:54,722 program. 2597 02:16:54,722 --> 02:16:57,180 Second, we ask that you approve the general plan amendment, 2598 02:16:57,180 --> 02:16:59,180 GPA 26-0039. 2599 02:16:59,260 --> 02:17:02,340 And finally, third, we ask that you approve the zoning map 2600 02:17:02,340 --> 02:17:04,740 amendment rezone application 26-0039. 2601 02:17:06,780 --> 02:17:08,320 This concludes staff's presentation. 2602 02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,860 We're happy to answer any questions if you have any. 2603 02:17:10,860 --> 02:17:13,420 All right, thank you for that. 2604 02:17:13,420 --> 02:17:15,500 Any questions or comments from council 2605 02:17:15,500 --> 02:17:19,100 before I open a public hearing? 2606 02:17:19,180 --> 02:17:25,780 OK, we'll go ahead and open up the public hearing at 8:44. 2607 02:17:25,900 --> 02:17:28,300 Any questions on Zoom? 2608 02:17:35,340 --> 02:17:37,940 I have attendees, but no hands raised for public comment 2609 02:17:37,940 --> 02:17:39,379 for item D.3. 2610 02:17:39,379 --> 02:17:41,379 Any comment cards? 2611 02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:42,820 I have no comment. 2612 02:17:42,820 --> 02:17:49,420 Anybody in the public would like to speak on item D.3? 2613 02:17:51,590 --> 02:17:54,139 OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and bring it back. 2614 02:17:54,139 --> 02:17:56,539 Closing public hearing at 8:45. 2615 02:18:00,270 --> 02:18:07,990 All right, question on this one, I guess, I have real quick is, 2616 02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:13,990 you have some zoning that changed from PQP to CMU? 2617 02:18:14,587 --> 02:18:16,170 Mayor, thank you for bringing that up. 2618 02:18:16,170 --> 02:18:17,712 Assistant city manager Jorgensen just 2619 02:18:17,712 --> 02:18:22,512 mentioned that we do show two parcels, 24130067 and 24130071. 2620 02:18:25,102 --> 02:18:27,830 one under the ownership of SSJID and the other 2621 02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:29,950 under the ownership of the city. 2622 02:18:29,950 --> 02:18:32,930 I don't believe that was staff's intent to make that change. 2623 02:18:32,930 --> 02:18:37,300 And we'd request city council approve amended resolutions that 2624 02:18:37,300 --> 02:18:38,790 exclude those two parcels, as well as 2625 02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:41,350 the ordinance doing the same. 2626 02:18:41,350 --> 02:18:43,350 All right. 2627 02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:48,760 People may not like that. 2628 02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:52,150 23067. 2629 02:18:55,629 --> 02:19:01,290 So the 7.39 acres of PQP is going to remain? 2630 02:19:01,719 --> 02:19:05,919 Parcel ending in 71 and 67 would remain PQP. 2631 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,600 Is that where our future potential Milo Candini 2632 02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:10,822 would be coming through? 2633 02:19:10,822 --> 02:19:12,280 I don't know to that, but I do know 2634 02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:14,680 that's part of the wastewater treatment plant 2635 02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:17,800 facilities at that location. 2636 02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:27,520 And that was not part of the planning commission, those two 2637 02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:28,219 parcels? 2638 02:19:28,219 --> 02:19:29,886 That was part of the planning commission 2639 02:19:29,886 --> 02:19:31,600 recommendation to city council. 2640 02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,780 So the PQP was in there switching to CMU? 2641 02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:35,500 It was. 2642 02:19:35,500 --> 02:19:37,500 OK, all right. 2643 02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:39,700 Good, yeah. 2644 02:19:39,700 --> 02:19:41,520 We're going to leave it. 2645 02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:43,520 A good catch. 2646 02:19:43,799 --> 02:19:47,800 OK, I'll go back to council if any other questions. 2647 02:19:47,800 --> 02:19:50,680 I'll start with Council Member Halford. 2648 02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:54,600 Not now. 2649 02:19:56,600 --> 02:19:58,600 Vice Mayor. 2650 02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:03,400 No, you can't go there yet. 2651 02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:04,880 Just remember Morowit. 2652 02:20:04,880 --> 02:20:07,160 So basically, we had just a mix of everything 2653 02:20:07,160 --> 02:20:08,980 on there-- existing mixed use commercial. 2654 02:20:08,980 --> 02:20:11,380 We had multiple family. 2655 02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:13,460 We had some PQP industrial. 2656 02:20:13,460 --> 02:20:17,260 So now, we're just going to make it all one mixed use, CMU. 2657 02:20:17,260 --> 02:20:17,760 Correct? 2658 02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:18,720 That's correct. 2659 02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:21,320 And the purpose of that was what we 2660 02:20:21,320 --> 02:20:23,600 feel what we want to have there in the city that's 2661 02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:24,440 consistent with-- 2662 02:20:24,440 --> 02:20:25,260 It is consistent. 2663 02:20:25,260 --> 02:20:26,840 We do have development applications 2664 02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:29,600 in on one of those parcels currently 2665 02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:32,800 that is a clean-- this is actually part of a cleanup 2666 02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,920 that we need to do for that project as well. 2667 02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:37,340 So yes, it's consistent. 2668 02:20:37,340 --> 02:20:42,520 We believe it's best for the city and best for that location. 2669 02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:44,360 Once again, we have an applicant? 2670 02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:45,560 Yes. 2671 02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:47,560 [INAUDIBLE] 2672 02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:51,160 I believe the applicant, the project that we're working 2673 02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:55,730 on that has [INAUDIBLE] for a second has gone through planning 2674 02:20:55,730 --> 02:20:57,450 commission or we-- 2675 02:20:57,450 --> 02:20:59,490 no it has not. 2676 02:20:59,490 --> 02:21:00,530 Mayor and council. 2677 02:21:00,530 --> 02:21:04,100 The specific projects are still under review pending tonight's 2678 02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:05,730 action. 2679 02:21:05,730 --> 02:21:07,130 Thank you. 2680 02:21:07,130 --> 02:21:09,130 Very good. 2681 02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:14,770 You Good, Council Member Morowit? 2682 02:21:14,770 --> 02:21:16,770 I'm good. 2683 02:21:17,130 --> 02:21:19,700 Yeah, no, I appreciate this cleanup. 2684 02:21:19,700 --> 02:21:22,330 I also appreciate the consistency with CMU 2685 02:21:22,330 --> 02:21:26,570 and actually also eliminating industrial in that area. 2686 02:21:26,570 --> 02:21:29,100 Just with the changes with fez and all the things 2687 02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:31,930 that are going to be happening around there. 2688 02:21:31,930 --> 02:21:36,210 We definitely don't need that type of use. 2689 02:21:36,210 --> 02:21:39,530 So I think CMU is more consistent with things 2690 02:21:39,530 --> 02:21:43,130 to the east and the south. 2691 02:21:44,900 --> 02:21:47,290 So with that, I do like this change 2692 02:21:47,290 --> 02:21:50,190 and look forward to seeing that project move forward also 2693 02:21:50,190 --> 02:21:52,500 when it comes. 2694 02:21:52,500 --> 02:21:53,380 I'll entertain a motion. 2695 02:21:53,380 --> 02:21:57,580 I'll make the motion to amend 24130067 and 71 2696 02:22:01,660 --> 02:22:06,260 to leave them as PQP and accept the other CMU. 2697 02:22:06,260 --> 02:22:07,820 I'll second. 2698 02:22:07,820 --> 02:22:10,740 So we have a motion from council member Breitenbucher 2699 02:22:10,740 --> 02:22:15,480 and a second from Vice Mayor Lackey to do the PQP, 2700 02:22:15,480 --> 02:22:18,740 leaving it at PQP for 067 and 071, 2701 02:22:18,740 --> 02:22:21,620 and adopt a resolution making the necessary findings to adopt 2702 02:22:21,620 --> 02:22:26,380 an initial study mitigated neg deck and its associated 2703 02:22:26,380 --> 02:22:29,900 mitigation, monitoring, and reporting program prepared 2704 02:22:29,900 --> 02:22:32,940 for the project, adopt a resolution approving a general 2705 02:22:32,940 --> 02:22:36,420 plan amendment redesignation, the project parcel identified 2706 02:22:36,420 --> 02:22:40,100 in the batch GPA site 5 project and waive the first reading 2707 02:22:40,100 --> 02:22:42,380 by substitution of Title and introduce an ordinance 2708 02:22:42,380 --> 02:22:45,160 of the city council of the City Of Manteca, State of California, 2709 02:22:45,160 --> 02:22:49,960 amending the zoning map set forth in Section 17.20.040 2710 02:22:50,460 --> 02:22:55,350 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca Municipal Code 2711 02:22:55,350 --> 02:22:59,230 by rezoning the batch GPA site by project parcels from public 2712 02:22:59,230 --> 02:23:01,230 quasi-- 2713 02:23:02,310 --> 02:23:05,790 planned development, light industrial, and limited multiple 2714 02:23:05,790 --> 02:23:10,870 family dwelling to the mixed use commercial zoning district. 2715 02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:12,230 All in favor, say aye. 2716 02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:13,550 Aye. 2717 02:23:13,550 --> 02:23:14,110 Opposed? 2718 02:23:14,110 --> 02:23:15,910 Motion carries 5-0. 2719 02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:18,310 Hopefully you got that. 2720 02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:23,990 All right. 2721 02:23:25,390 --> 02:23:27,270 OK, we'll move on to D.4. 2722 02:23:27,270 --> 02:23:30,510 Conduct a public hearing and adopt a resolution approving 2723 02:23:30,510 --> 02:23:33,510 amendment number 2 for the engineering and traffic 2724 02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:36,390 survey for speed limits, waive the first reading 2725 02:23:36,390 --> 02:23:37,730 by substitution of a title. 2726 02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:41,300 And introduce an ordinance of the city council of the City 2727 02:23:41,300 --> 02:23:45,270 of Manteca, State of California, amending Manteca Municipal Code 2728 02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:47,670 10, vehicles and traffic chapter 10.12, 2729 02:23:49,890 --> 02:23:53,490 speed limit section 10.12.020, designated and authorizing 2730 02:23:57,190 --> 02:24:00,230 the city manager or designee to take all appropriate actions 2731 02:24:00,230 --> 02:24:03,150 necessary to carry out the purpose and intent 2732 02:24:03,150 --> 02:24:04,770 of the resolution. 2733 02:24:04,770 --> 02:24:08,750 Mayor and council, tonight, we have Senior Engineer Beshoy. 2734 02:24:08,750 --> 02:24:11,190 Good evening, Mayor and council members. 2735 02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:14,910 This public hearing is to reduce the speed limit 2736 02:24:14,910 --> 02:24:19,700 on Crom Street between Airport Way and Union Road 2737 02:24:19,700 --> 02:24:21,700 from 35 to 30. 2738 02:24:21,230 --> 02:24:24,590 California Vehicle Code give local jurisdictions 2739 02:24:24,590 --> 02:24:30,590 authority to run a traffic and engineering survey to complete 2740 02:24:31,710 --> 02:24:33,230 this reduction. 2741 02:24:33,230 --> 02:24:38,630 When we received concern from public regarding current speed 2742 02:24:38,830 --> 02:24:44,230 limit on Crom Street, we investigated the roadway element 2743 02:24:46,150 --> 02:24:49,800 such as land use, public transit, 2744 02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:52,680 pedestrian and public facilities, crash rate, 2745 02:24:52,980 --> 02:24:58,380 which was lower than similar corridors in the state. 2746 02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:05,400 We also reviewed five years of collision history. 2747 02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:10,320 And we have 0 fatalities on this corridor. 2748 02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:17,720 We have only one collision in July, 2024 with a severe injury. 2749 02:25:19,400 --> 02:25:22,400 And it was between motorcycle and a vehicle. 2750 02:25:22,400 --> 02:25:25,260 And was a primary contributing factor 2751 02:25:25,260 --> 02:25:30,000 and defining as unsafe speed from the motorcycle. 2752 02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,960 We also looked at free flow vehicles. 2753 02:25:33,960 --> 02:25:39,360 We collected samples of 128 vehicle speed under free flow. 2754 02:25:41,960 --> 02:25:46,760 And we gathered-- we calculated the 85th percentile. 2755 02:25:47,530 --> 02:25:53,530 The 85th percentile is the speed which our observed vehicle, 2756 02:25:53,690 --> 02:25:58,490 85% of them, were at or below that speed. 2757 02:25:59,900 --> 02:26:01,750 15% are higher than that speed. 2758 02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:06,350 85th percentile for Crom Street on this study, 2759 02:26:06,350 --> 02:26:09,100 it was 37 mile per hour. 2760 02:26:09,100 --> 02:26:12,530 We rounded to the nearest 5, which is 35. 2761 02:26:12,530 --> 02:26:17,900 And because of its proximity to the school, 2762 02:26:17,900 --> 02:26:20,690 and the residential frontage, and also 2763 02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:24,100 the one severe collision, engineering 2764 02:26:24,730 --> 02:26:27,730 is recommending to reduce from 35 2765 02:26:28,500 --> 02:26:31,770 to take another five mile per hour reduction 2766 02:26:31,770 --> 02:26:34,770 from 35 to 30 mile per hour. 2767 02:26:39,610 --> 02:26:45,100 And that's also supported by California Vehicle Code section 2768 02:26:46,130 --> 02:26:48,130 22358.6b. 2769 02:26:50,690 --> 02:26:53,650 Staff does recommend reducing the speed limit 2770 02:26:53,650 --> 02:26:55,770 to 30 miles per hour. 2771 02:26:55,770 --> 02:26:56,590 Thank you. 2772 02:26:56,590 --> 02:26:58,590 Any questions? 2773 02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:01,490 All right. 2774 02:27:02,130 --> 02:27:04,330 Any questions from council before I open up 2775 02:27:04,330 --> 02:27:06,330 the public hearing? 2776 02:27:07,890 --> 02:27:14,900 OK, we'll go ahead and open up the public hearing at 8:54. 2777 02:27:14,900 --> 02:27:16,900 Anybody on Zoom? 2778 02:27:23,185 --> 02:27:27,250 I have attendees on Zoom, but no hands raised for public comment 2779 02:27:27,250 --> 02:27:29,250 for item D.4. 2780 02:27:29,810 --> 02:27:31,810 Any comment cards? 2781 02:27:32,370 --> 02:27:34,900 I have no comments. 2782 02:27:34,900 --> 02:27:37,290 Anybody like to speak on item D.4? 2783 02:27:37,290 --> 02:27:39,690 Come on up, sir. 2784 02:27:39,730 --> 02:27:41,730 Just one first. 2785 02:27:42,570 --> 02:27:47,120 I am all for reducing that to 30 miles an hour, 2786 02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:48,980 I think would be a lot safer. 2787 02:27:48,980 --> 02:27:50,980 Thank you. 2788 02:28:01,860 --> 02:28:03,160 Hello, council members. 2789 02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:04,280 I'm Raymond Gedney. 2790 02:28:04,280 --> 02:28:08,480 I live on Crom Street at Foxfire. 2791 02:28:08,500 --> 02:28:12,300 We moved there approximately 2 and 1/2 years ago. 2792 02:28:12,300 --> 02:28:15,900 And as a retired traffic sergeant, 2793 02:28:15,980 --> 02:28:19,420 I noticed the excessive speed on that street 2794 02:28:19,420 --> 02:28:21,820 and the dangerous condition. 2795 02:28:21,900 --> 02:28:27,300 Dangerous condition being foot traffic to and from school, 2796 02:28:27,420 --> 02:28:28,860 dog walkers. 2797 02:28:28,860 --> 02:28:32,620 There's a lot of pedestrian traffic out there. 2798 02:28:32,620 --> 02:28:36,540 I've been working with the engineering department 2799 02:28:36,540 --> 02:28:39,540 on getting that speed reduced. 2800 02:28:39,620 --> 02:28:44,270 And also the housing on the other side of airport 2801 02:28:44,270 --> 02:28:47,270 contributed to the traffic there. 2802 02:28:47,350 --> 02:28:51,590 I worked with them and tried to get it down 2803 02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:53,590 to 25 suggested speed. 2804 02:28:55,470 --> 02:29:00,270 Eventually, I turned in a traffic calming form 2805 02:29:01,310 --> 02:29:03,310 requesting 25. 2806 02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:07,230 About two months ago, a month and a half 2807 02:29:07,230 --> 02:29:10,830 ago, I received an email regarding-- 2808 02:29:11,510 --> 02:29:13,510 from the engineering department. 2809 02:29:13,510 --> 02:29:15,550 And they stated that they were going 2810 02:29:15,550 --> 02:29:20,190 to make a recommendation to council to reduce it to 25. 2811 02:29:20,190 --> 02:29:23,910 Well, I was ecstatic about that because that's 2812 02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:28,110 my main goal is to slow down the traffic there. 2813 02:29:28,110 --> 02:29:32,390 And then I think it was about a week ago, a week and a half 2814 02:29:32,390 --> 02:29:35,270 ago, in the evening, I got an email 2815 02:29:35,270 --> 02:29:38,350 from the engineering department that they modified it 2816 02:29:38,350 --> 02:29:40,190 to 30 miles an hour. 2817 02:29:40,190 --> 02:29:42,190 I don't agree with that. 2818 02:29:42,190 --> 02:29:44,630 I don't think 5 miles an hour is going to make much 2819 02:29:44,630 --> 02:29:47,670 of a difference on that street. 2820 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:50,670 There's also the Assembly Bill 1014, 2821 02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:55,590 which was passed this year, which has increased the amount 2822 02:29:55,590 --> 02:30:02,190 that a local jurisdiction can reduce the speed from the 85th 2823 02:30:03,700 --> 02:30:06,670 percentile, which is 37 miles an hour. 2824 02:30:07,870 --> 02:30:14,470 It is my viewpoint that the speed can be reduced to 25 2825 02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:21,230 and also rounded off down to 25, according to the Assembly Bill. 2826 02:30:21,230 --> 02:30:23,950 So I'm referring you to the Assembly Bill. 2827 02:30:23,950 --> 02:30:29,270 And I received no information from the engineering department 2828 02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:32,870 or the traffic committee that there 2829 02:30:33,550 --> 02:30:37,750 was going to be any consideration regarding 2830 02:30:37,910 --> 02:30:39,910 that Assembly Bill. 2831 02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:45,720 So I urge the council to pass it for a 25 miles per hour speed 2832 02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:51,720 limit there and reduce the school zone to 20 miles hour. 2833 02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:55,000 So that's my case. 2834 02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:58,160 Mr. Gedney, a question for you. 2835 02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:00,140 When you submitted the traffic calming, 2836 02:31:00,140 --> 02:31:05,260 did you ever submit to get speed bumps, humps, lumps on Crom 2837 02:31:05,260 --> 02:31:07,460 or you just asked for a reduction in speed limit? 2838 02:31:07,460 --> 02:31:10,840 What happened is about a year and a half ago, 2839 02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:16,840 I turned in the traffic calming form requesting speed bumps. 2840 02:31:18,200 --> 02:31:20,400 And I was advised that they're not allowable 2841 02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,480 for a 35 mile per hour zone. 2842 02:31:23,480 --> 02:31:26,800 I wasn't aware of that. 2843 02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:28,720 But that was the last request I made for it. 2844 02:31:28,720 --> 02:31:34,120 And now, I get the notification regarding this reduction 2845 02:31:35,560 --> 02:31:37,520 to 30 miles per hour. 2846 02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:43,490 And then I also got a form with this regarding the speed lumps. 2847 02:31:43,490 --> 02:31:45,170 I looked at the form. 2848 02:31:45,170 --> 02:31:48,690 And I'm not too happy with the wording on the form 2849 02:31:48,690 --> 02:31:50,850 because I was looking at it and it 2850 02:31:50,850 --> 02:31:54,170 said-- one of the questions for the person 2851 02:31:54,170 --> 02:32:00,730 to sign up on Crom Street is, would you like speed lumps 2852 02:32:00,730 --> 02:32:02,570 in front of your house? 2853 02:32:02,570 --> 02:32:05,850 And I don't think that's an appropriate question 2854 02:32:05,850 --> 02:32:07,490 on that petition, because I think 2855 02:32:07,490 --> 02:32:13,290 it's going to slant the response or the reaction of someone 2856 02:32:13,290 --> 02:32:16,290 possibility of signing a petition. 2857 02:32:16,610 --> 02:32:20,810 I think that's a negative inappropriate wording 2858 02:32:21,250 --> 02:32:23,250 on that form. 2859 02:32:23,330 --> 02:32:29,770 And also another question is, are you the owner of the house? 2860 02:32:29,770 --> 02:32:33,970 I think that's irrelevant as far as-- 2861 02:32:34,500 --> 02:32:36,230 what does it matter who owns the house? 2862 02:32:36,230 --> 02:32:38,650 It's who's living in that house. 2863 02:32:38,650 --> 02:32:41,100 Because there is a significant number 2864 02:32:41,100 --> 02:32:43,850 of renters on that street. 2865 02:32:43,850 --> 02:32:47,330 So I have a problem with the wording on that form. 2866 02:32:47,330 --> 02:32:49,610 And I've actually have two friends 2867 02:32:49,610 --> 02:32:53,810 that have approved areas for speed lumps. 2868 02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:56,930 And I'm going to show them that form to make sure 2869 02:32:56,930 --> 02:33:02,330 that it's consistent with what they dealt with before. 2870 02:33:03,530 --> 02:33:04,490 Thank you, sir. 2871 02:33:04,490 --> 02:33:06,490 You're welcome. 2872 02:33:07,770 --> 02:33:13,170 Anybody else would like to speak on this item? 2873 02:33:19,868 --> 02:33:22,410 OK, seeing none, I will go ahead and close the public hearing 2874 02:33:22,410 --> 02:33:24,410 at 9 o'clock. 2875 02:33:26,210 --> 02:33:29,810 OK, a couple questions I have. 2876 02:33:30,890 --> 02:33:37,490 First of all, Mr. Gedney brought up the fact of AB 1014. 2877 02:33:37,900 --> 02:33:39,260 Can you explain that one? 2878 02:33:39,260 --> 02:33:41,260 Yes, sure. 2879 02:33:42,580 --> 02:33:49,180 The California Vehicle Code, the new law does provide the ability 2880 02:33:49,420 --> 02:33:53,620 to reduce the 85th percentile by 12.4mph. 2881 02:33:55,380 --> 02:33:58,800 So to take it to 25 miles per hour, 2882 02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:01,860 we could be using additional lowering the speed 2883 02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:04,180 by 5 miles per hour. 2884 02:34:04,180 --> 02:34:06,100 But unfortunately, and that's why 2885 02:34:06,100 --> 02:34:09,220 we had to correct that email that Mr. Gedney was 2886 02:34:09,220 --> 02:34:11,220 talking about. 2887 02:34:11,780 --> 02:34:15,220 That five mile per hour extra reduction 2888 02:34:15,220 --> 02:34:18,820 comes with a very restriction requirements. 2889 02:34:20,100 --> 02:34:24,140 Reading from California Vehicle Codes and the California 2890 02:34:24,140 --> 02:34:27,740 [INAUDIBLE], it has to be one-- 2891 02:34:27,980 --> 02:34:31,180 it has to meet the following two requirements. 2892 02:34:31,180 --> 02:34:32,580 Safety corridor. 2893 02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:34,580 And the definition of safety corridor 2894 02:34:34,580 --> 02:34:39,950 is a safety corridor that shall be defined as a roadway segment 2895 02:34:39,950 --> 02:34:43,110 with an overall roadway network, where the highest 2896 02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:47,310 number of serious injury and fatality crashes 2897 02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:49,910 acquire guidance. 2898 02:34:51,390 --> 02:34:53,790 Jurisdiction should use three or five 2899 02:34:53,790 --> 02:34:56,390 years on the most recent crash data 2900 02:34:56,390 --> 02:34:59,390 to determine a safety corridor. 2901 02:34:59,550 --> 02:35:02,310 For crashes cover, safety corridor 2902 02:35:02,310 --> 02:35:08,190 may be defined as a subset of an overall roadway network, where 2903 02:35:08,190 --> 02:35:14,190 a minimum of 25% or fatality or serious injury crash acquire. 2904 02:35:14,990 --> 02:35:19,190 And unfortunately, we don't have engineer bases 2905 02:35:19,390 --> 02:35:24,830 to define Crom Street as meeting this kind of requirement. 2906 02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:27,950 The second requirement is a land or facility 2907 02:35:27,950 --> 02:35:31,550 that generates high concentration of bicycle 2908 02:35:32,390 --> 02:35:33,710 and pedestrian. 2909 02:35:33,710 --> 02:35:36,730 So we have the school and we have the bike lane. 2910 02:35:36,730 --> 02:35:37,990 Totally agree. 2911 02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:41,590 But it adds that following requirement 2912 02:35:41,750 --> 02:35:44,590 and meet the following condition. 2913 02:35:44,590 --> 02:35:48,190 Crash data demonstrate a high segment 2914 02:35:48,310 --> 02:35:52,590 is within the top 20% of pedestrian and bicycle 2915 02:35:52,590 --> 02:35:56,490 fatalities or serious injury over the three or five years. 2916 02:35:56,490 --> 02:35:59,610 We looked at the five years and we couldn't find that, 2917 02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:03,510 so we couldn't find a engineer basis 2918 02:36:03,510 --> 02:36:09,510 to give the speed limit as a 25 mile per hour. 2919 02:36:11,990 --> 02:36:17,230 Listen, I mean, we all know that speed limits establish 2920 02:36:17,230 --> 02:36:22,630 at or near 85th percentile provides the law enforcement 2921 02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:28,450 an appropriate level for citing drivers who travel at speed 2922 02:36:28,450 --> 02:36:32,650 consider reasonable for-- consider by majority that 2923 02:36:34,120 --> 02:36:36,280 it's reasonable to get cited. 2924 02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:42,880 So if you look also at the data in the presentation-- 2925 02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:49,800 if we go to 25 miles per hour, 98% 2926 02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:56,520 of the people that we observed in that sample 2927 02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:58,400 will be violators. 2928 02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:01,220 So we couldn't move forward with 25 mile per hour. 2929 02:37:01,220 --> 02:37:03,220 And we recommend 30. 2930 02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:10,560 OK, next question I have is, is reduction in speed 2931 02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:14,360 a common traffic calming process that we 2932 02:37:14,360 --> 02:37:18,160 use when it comes to our traffic calming application? 2933 02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:20,360 So the traffic calming application 2934 02:37:20,360 --> 02:37:23,360 is serving the speed lumps. 2935 02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:29,160 And what we told-- what we affirm 2936 02:37:31,950 --> 02:37:36,110 the resident is that when we reduce it to 30 mile per hour, 2937 02:37:36,110 --> 02:37:39,930 we will be able to add the speed lumps on Crom 2938 02:37:39,930 --> 02:37:43,570 because previously, it was rejected because it 2939 02:37:43,570 --> 02:37:45,610 was a 35 mile per hour. 2940 02:37:45,610 --> 02:37:50,550 But now, with a 30 mile per hour, near the 85th percentile, 2941 02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:53,500 I can add the speed lump. 2942 02:37:53,500 --> 02:37:55,770 So if this gets approved tonight, 2943 02:37:55,770 --> 02:37:58,250 speed lump sums, whatever it is, will 2944 02:37:58,250 --> 02:38:00,150 be a possibility for that road? 2945 02:38:00,150 --> 02:38:05,550 Yes, we already approached Mr. Gedney with that application. 2946 02:38:06,100 --> 02:38:09,100 And we told him you can start the petition and align 2947 02:38:09,100 --> 02:38:13,100 with while we are trying to reduce the speed. 2948 02:38:13,100 --> 02:38:17,810 And regarding the question, are you the owner 2949 02:38:18,100 --> 02:38:23,500 or are you OK with having the speed lump in front 2950 02:38:23,500 --> 02:38:26,210 of your house and the question application, 2951 02:38:26,210 --> 02:38:31,490 we run through so many lessons learned that we go and put it 2952 02:38:31,490 --> 02:38:32,790 in front of somebody's house. 2953 02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:34,570 And they come during construction 2954 02:38:34,570 --> 02:38:36,850 and say, no, we don't want it here. 2955 02:38:36,850 --> 02:38:43,500 So from lesson learned from many years, we had to ask the people, 2956 02:38:43,500 --> 02:38:45,650 are we going to put a speed lump in front of you 2957 02:38:45,650 --> 02:38:46,990 or a sign in front of you? 2958 02:38:46,990 --> 02:38:48,210 Are you OK with that? 2959 02:38:48,210 --> 02:38:52,330 I mean, street already have seen so many signs. 2960 02:38:52,330 --> 02:38:55,500 If when people are not happy, they just remove the sign 2961 02:38:55,500 --> 02:38:56,900 and throw it away. 2962 02:38:56,900 --> 02:38:57,610 They just pull it up. 2963 02:38:57,610 --> 02:39:01,730 So we just trying to be proactive 2964 02:39:01,730 --> 02:39:04,658 when we are asking those questions to the residents. 2965 02:39:04,658 --> 02:39:06,450 And are those questions consistent with all 2966 02:39:06,450 --> 02:39:07,870 of our other applications? 2967 02:39:07,870 --> 02:39:08,710 Yes, definitely. 2968 02:39:08,710 --> 02:39:15,530 And you see how many speed lumps we have around the town. 2969 02:39:15,530 --> 02:39:18,650 If we have a serious speed issue, 2970 02:39:18,650 --> 02:39:23,950 I definitely think that this question will get people happy. 2971 02:39:23,950 --> 02:39:26,450 Yes, I want it here in front of my house 2972 02:39:26,450 --> 02:39:30,500 because I have a speed issue. 2973 02:39:34,700 --> 02:39:37,100 Vice Mayor, go ahead. 2974 02:39:37,820 --> 02:39:40,700 OK, so I wanted to go first because this is actually 2975 02:39:40,700 --> 02:39:42,600 a really important topic for me. 2976 02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:44,220 I used to live on Crom Street. 2977 02:39:44,220 --> 02:39:46,420 I lived on Crom Street for 10 years. 2978 02:39:46,420 --> 02:39:50,340 I raised my kids from infants to 10 years old 2979 02:39:50,340 --> 02:39:51,860 and a little bit older. 2980 02:39:51,860 --> 02:39:56,900 And I can tell you firsthand that this street is an issue. 2981 02:39:56,900 --> 02:39:58,720 People go speeding down the street. 2982 02:39:58,720 --> 02:40:01,920 I've had my neighbor's house almost get hit. 2983 02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:03,620 The only reason it did not get hit 2984 02:40:03,620 --> 02:40:05,680 is because there was a tree in front of it. 2985 02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:07,700 And it slammed into the tree. 2986 02:40:07,700 --> 02:40:11,300 We've had our mailbox taken out. 2987 02:40:11,900 --> 02:40:15,980 I've had cars hit that were parked on the side 2988 02:40:15,980 --> 02:40:19,600 because people speed through Crom Street. 2989 02:40:19,600 --> 02:40:21,460 And it's gotten worse. 2990 02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:28,330 What I don't understand is it was at 35 miles an hour 2991 02:40:28,330 --> 02:40:30,570 because half of the street is a golf course. 2992 02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:36,690 And a few years back, part of that street was a farm. 2993 02:40:36,690 --> 02:40:39,190 I lived directly across the street from the farm. 2994 02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:40,670 Now, it's all housing. 2995 02:40:40,670 --> 02:40:44,770 And Crom now extends to the other side of airport. 2996 02:40:44,770 --> 02:40:49,270 So we have kids that are walking down this residential street 2997 02:40:49,270 --> 02:40:52,550 to get to a school that has access 2998 02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:55,990 to the school on Crom Street. 2999 02:40:55,990 --> 02:41:00,300 Every other neighborhood per the California DMV, their speed 3000 02:41:00,300 --> 02:41:01,950 limit is 25. 3001 02:41:01,950 --> 02:41:05,550 This street is a residential street. 3002 02:41:05,550 --> 02:41:09,190 We have high density on both ends of Crom Street 3003 02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:11,970 from Union on that end. 3004 02:41:11,970 --> 02:41:13,390 We have the apartments. 3005 02:41:13,390 --> 02:41:15,950 And we have the high density-- 3006 02:41:15,950 --> 02:41:16,570 what are they? 3007 02:41:16,570 --> 02:41:17,490 They're not condos. 3008 02:41:17,490 --> 02:41:20,210 Townhouses on the other side. 3009 02:41:20,210 --> 02:41:22,170 We now have all that new housing. 3010 02:41:22,170 --> 02:41:25,490 And all those kids are walking their way to school, 3011 02:41:25,490 --> 02:41:27,110 riding their bikes to school. 3012 02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:30,710 It is a high density street. 3013 02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:34,590 And a lot of families can't allow their kids 3014 02:41:34,590 --> 02:41:40,150 to be out front of their house because there is racing going on 3015 02:41:40,150 --> 02:41:41,310 down that street. 3016 02:41:41,310 --> 02:41:44,710 Now, there's been a lot of mitigation over the years trying 3017 02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:47,900 to keep it from going so fast. 3018 02:41:47,900 --> 02:41:50,590 43 miles an hour down that street is ridiculous. 3019 02:41:50,590 --> 02:41:52,830 That should not be OK. 3020 02:41:52,830 --> 02:41:56,230 And that should not be part of this factoring of your 87th 3021 02:41:56,230 --> 02:41:57,910 percentile. 3022 02:41:57,910 --> 02:42:01,230 Yeah, you're going to have 98% of violators. 3023 02:42:01,230 --> 02:42:02,190 Guess what? 3024 02:42:02,190 --> 02:42:05,470 At that point, maybe we get some traffic control 3025 02:42:05,470 --> 02:42:09,470 and we ticket every single one of them 3026 02:42:09,470 --> 02:42:13,700 for racing down a residential street. 3027 02:42:17,150 --> 02:42:19,150 I have talked to Mr. Gedney. 3028 02:42:19,150 --> 02:42:24,230 And I had said, do the petition for the speed 3029 02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:27,120 lumps because that will slow them down to 15 miles 3030 02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:28,880 an hour going over these speed bumps. 3031 02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:30,400 I don't know why we don't already 3032 02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:33,720 have them because it is a school district. 3033 02:42:33,720 --> 02:42:37,800 We have three entrances to Stella Brockman. 3034 02:42:37,800 --> 02:42:39,220 We have one on Silverado. 3035 02:42:39,220 --> 02:42:40,460 We have one on Crom. 3036 02:42:40,460 --> 02:42:44,720 And then I can't recall the other street. 3037 02:42:44,720 --> 02:42:47,760 Because that's a new policy we just created. 3038 02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:51,580 Well, I understand that, but what I'm saying is, 3039 02:42:51,580 --> 02:42:52,900 this is a residential street. 3040 02:42:52,900 --> 02:42:54,960 We have kids accessing that school 3041 02:42:54,960 --> 02:42:57,200 from three different points. 3042 02:42:57,200 --> 02:43:00,280 All three of those points need to be treated just 3043 02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:03,900 like all of our other schools under this new policy 3044 02:43:03,900 --> 02:43:05,300 and receive those speed lumps. 3045 02:43:05,300 --> 02:43:08,640 There shouldn't be a question to that. 3046 02:43:08,640 --> 02:43:12,480 But I haven't been on that street for 10 years. 3047 02:43:12,480 --> 02:43:14,840 I moved to the other side of town 3048 02:43:14,840 --> 02:43:17,280 where my kids could play in the front yard. 3049 02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:20,980 This street has always been an issue. 3050 02:43:20,980 --> 02:43:23,720 When I lived there, I asked for speed lumps. 3051 02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:27,470 At that time, speed lumps were not a standard in Manteca. 3052 02:43:27,470 --> 02:43:30,130 I was told that they could not happen. 3053 02:43:30,130 --> 02:43:31,450 And it never did. 3054 02:43:31,450 --> 02:43:35,690 So we had two cars totaled in front of my house 3055 02:43:35,690 --> 02:43:38,500 because people were speeding. 3056 02:43:38,500 --> 02:43:41,500 Like I said, we had our post office box 3057 02:43:41,500 --> 02:43:46,900 knocked out for months because, obviously, it takes time. 3058 02:43:46,900 --> 02:43:47,870 They have the curve in the street. 3059 02:43:47,870 --> 02:43:49,550 It does not slow them down. 3060 02:43:49,550 --> 02:43:51,270 They've put up stop signs. 3061 02:43:51,270 --> 02:43:52,790 It does not slow them down. 3062 02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:54,950 They've put up lights on those stop signs. 3063 02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:56,730 It does not slow them down. 3064 02:43:56,730 --> 02:43:59,130 We have at least put a sidewalk on the other side 3065 02:43:59,130 --> 02:44:00,322 by the golf course. 3066 02:44:00,322 --> 02:44:02,530 But the golf course, the fact that that's not housing 3067 02:44:02,530 --> 02:44:04,490 should not be a factor in this. 3068 02:44:04,490 --> 02:44:08,170 We have greatly increased the number of children using 3069 02:44:08,170 --> 02:44:10,890 the street, so I am in favor. 3070 02:44:10,890 --> 02:44:13,290 It's a residential street. 3071 02:44:13,410 --> 02:44:14,530 Plain and simple. 3072 02:44:14,530 --> 02:44:17,530 Residential streets are zoned at 25. 3073 02:44:17,650 --> 02:44:20,410 So I would be in favor of the 25. 3074 02:44:20,410 --> 02:44:22,450 And then you get people out there 3075 02:44:22,450 --> 02:44:24,330 to go after those violators. 3076 02:44:24,330 --> 02:44:25,610 They'll catch on. 3077 02:44:25,610 --> 02:44:28,590 They'll go 25, and they'll treat it as a true residential street 3078 02:44:28,590 --> 02:44:30,450 because right now, it's just being treated 3079 02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:32,250 as a highway, a thoroughfare. 3080 02:44:32,250 --> 02:44:33,350 And that's not OK. 3081 02:44:33,350 --> 02:44:34,690 That is not Louise. 3082 02:44:34,690 --> 02:44:36,270 That is not Moffat. 3083 02:44:36,270 --> 02:44:39,500 That is not Lathrop road. 3084 02:44:39,500 --> 02:44:39,870 It's Crom. 3085 02:44:39,870 --> 02:44:42,970 It's a residential street in the middle of our neighborhood. 3086 02:44:42,970 --> 02:44:44,970 So I apologize. 3087 02:44:45,130 --> 02:44:47,870 This is a very touchy subject because like I said, 3088 02:44:47,870 --> 02:44:50,700 I raised my kids on that street. 3089 02:44:50,700 --> 02:44:53,210 And I know exactly what these people are going through. 3090 02:44:53,210 --> 02:44:56,370 And it's been long overdue for something 3091 02:44:56,370 --> 02:44:57,830 to be done about the street. 3092 02:44:57,830 --> 02:44:59,450 Definitely, I just want to mention 3093 02:44:59,450 --> 02:45:03,290 that we do have a 25 mile per hour 3094 02:45:03,290 --> 02:45:05,930 when children are present signs. 3095 02:45:05,930 --> 02:45:09,310 And we are here tonight to continue to improve it. 3096 02:45:09,310 --> 02:45:12,750 This is not the last thing we're going to do at Crom. 3097 02:45:12,750 --> 02:45:15,210 And this is not the first thing we did at Crom. 3098 02:45:15,210 --> 02:45:18,370 Crom we did, as you mentioned, the new sidewalk 3099 02:45:18,370 --> 02:45:19,870 on the south side of Crom. 3100 02:45:19,870 --> 02:45:24,670 We had now continuous sidewalk for the children 3101 02:45:24,740 --> 02:45:25,920 going to the school. 3102 02:45:25,920 --> 02:45:30,180 And we did observe that this sidewalk is used heavily 3103 02:45:30,180 --> 02:45:31,980 now from those children. 3104 02:45:31,980 --> 02:45:34,780 And bike lane on both sides. 3105 02:45:34,780 --> 02:45:39,100 And we updated all the ADA curb ramp on that street. 3106 02:45:39,100 --> 02:45:43,660 And we put flashing stop sign on all the stop 3107 02:45:43,660 --> 02:45:45,380 sign on Crom Street. 3108 02:45:45,380 --> 02:45:50,180 And we also installed high visibility yellow crosswalk 3109 02:45:51,420 --> 02:45:54,240 on all the crosswalk there. 3110 02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:56,380 And all the crosswalks are controlled. 3111 02:45:56,380 --> 02:45:58,220 We totally understand. 3112 02:45:58,220 --> 02:46:00,620 And as I said-- 3113 02:46:00,760 --> 02:46:03,520 Why is this not being treated as a true residential? 3114 02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:04,440 It's a collector. 3115 02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:05,880 It's a major collector. 3116 02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:07,560 It's a residential street. 3117 02:46:07,560 --> 02:46:09,340 We have people that live on that street 3118 02:46:09,340 --> 02:46:11,980 and we have access to a school there. 3119 02:46:11,980 --> 02:46:16,500 It needs to be treated as a true residential street. 3120 02:46:16,500 --> 02:46:18,400 So just like all the other residents, 3121 02:46:18,400 --> 02:46:20,200 it's 25 miles an hour. 3122 02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:23,710 I don't see any difference between the two. 3123 02:46:23,710 --> 02:46:27,510 Yeah, from engineering basis, I don't have a backup 3124 02:46:27,510 --> 02:46:30,350 to put it to 25, but-- 3125 02:46:30,350 --> 02:46:32,710 So I have a question for you on that. 3126 02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:39,310 If you change it to 25 and people are going 30 or whatever, 3127 02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:41,990 is it enforceable? 3128 02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:46,470 I believe the police did put-- 3129 02:46:46,830 --> 02:46:48,842 If the data doesn't show-- 3130 02:46:48,842 --> 02:46:50,550 Yeah, I think Police Chief would probably 3131 02:46:50,550 --> 02:46:53,990 like to chime in at this point. 3132 02:46:53,990 --> 02:46:55,970 It has to deal with the-- well, that's loud. 3133 02:46:55,970 --> 02:47:01,150 It has to deal with the 80th percentile and having a radar 3134 02:47:01,150 --> 02:47:02,810 survey that supports that. 3135 02:47:02,810 --> 02:47:05,810 And so if it's dropped to 25 miles per hour, 3136 02:47:05,810 --> 02:47:09,990 you're not able to enforce speed via radar by law. 3137 02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:13,950 And so it would have to be a bumper piece, at 25. 3138 02:47:13,950 --> 02:47:16,910 If they're going there, you can't sit on the street and run 3139 02:47:16,910 --> 02:47:18,910 radar. 3140 02:47:20,670 --> 02:47:22,570 At 25 miles an hour speed limit? 3141 02:47:22,570 --> 02:47:24,570 25 miles an hour. 3142 02:47:25,470 --> 02:47:29,390 So at this point, we spend money on 30 mile an hour 3143 02:47:29,390 --> 02:47:33,670 signs, get more data, and then spend more money to make 3144 02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:35,330 it a true residential street. 3145 02:47:35,330 --> 02:47:37,950 Is that what I'm hearing? 3146 02:47:37,950 --> 02:47:40,470 Because that seems kind of backwards to me. 3147 02:47:40,470 --> 02:47:43,700 You're saying regarding the speed lumps? 3148 02:47:43,700 --> 02:47:46,310 I'm saying in regards to the speed limit. 3149 02:47:46,310 --> 02:47:48,710 You make it 30 miles an hour. 3150 02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:52,350 You spend money to change the signs. 3151 02:47:52,350 --> 02:47:56,110 And then the residents request more data 3152 02:47:56,110 --> 02:47:59,870 to show that these people still are not doing what 3153 02:47:59,870 --> 02:48:01,750 they're supposed to be doing. 3154 02:48:01,750 --> 02:48:05,470 And they continue to request 25 miles an hour. 3155 02:48:05,470 --> 02:48:09,550 And then we spend more money to go through this whole process 3156 02:48:09,550 --> 02:48:11,230 again. 3157 02:48:11,230 --> 02:48:12,870 I don't understand why it's not being 3158 02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:16,700 treated as a true residential neighborhood. 3159 02:48:16,700 --> 02:48:19,400 It used to be on the outer limits of Villa Ticino. 3160 02:48:19,400 --> 02:48:25,640 It is no longer on the outer limits of Villa Ticino. 3161 02:48:26,560 --> 02:48:29,420 Make it make sense to me because it doesn't make sense. 3162 02:48:29,420 --> 02:48:31,560 It is a residential street. 3163 02:48:31,560 --> 02:48:34,920 It's no different than any other residential street, 3164 02:48:34,920 --> 02:48:37,860 other than the fact that it has school access. 3165 02:48:37,860 --> 02:48:39,700 Not all residential streets do. 3166 02:48:39,700 --> 02:48:40,940 It has school access. 3167 02:48:40,940 --> 02:48:44,580 You have the foot traffic and the kids there. 3168 02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:48,320 So why wouldn't we be proactive and make it 3169 02:48:48,320 --> 02:48:51,920 what it needs to be now. 3170 02:48:52,960 --> 02:48:55,340 Yeah, once we collected the 85th percentile, 3171 02:48:55,340 --> 02:48:59,820 I'm not sure where to go from here. 3172 02:48:59,820 --> 02:49:02,600 Yeah, maybe if I could jump in, Vice Mayor. 3173 02:49:02,600 --> 02:49:05,340 So from an engineering standpoint, 3174 02:49:05,340 --> 02:49:08,800 we have essentially criteria that we 3175 02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:11,980 have to meet when we do these engineering and traffic surveys. 3176 02:49:11,980 --> 02:49:14,340 And when you look at a street like Crom Street, 3177 02:49:14,340 --> 02:49:17,140 while there are residents fronting it 3178 02:49:17,140 --> 02:49:19,570 and you do have the golf course on the South side, 3179 02:49:19,570 --> 02:49:22,490 it is what we call a collector street, meaning, 3180 02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:25,130 it's not just the folks who live on that street that 3181 02:49:25,130 --> 02:49:27,890 are driving to get out of their neighborhood. 3182 02:49:27,890 --> 02:49:31,290 Unlike, like a Foxfire, say, or a Greenview. 3183 02:49:31,290 --> 02:49:34,830 So this is a lot more cut through traffic, if you will. 3184 02:49:34,830 --> 02:49:37,950 And that's why it's a higher classification of roadway. 3185 02:49:37,950 --> 02:49:40,570 If you were to look at-- typically, when 3186 02:49:40,570 --> 02:49:43,850 you get into the nitty gritty of traffic analysis, 3187 02:49:43,850 --> 02:49:46,910 a typical home will generate approximately 10 trips a day. 3188 02:49:46,910 --> 02:49:48,270 And that's a one way trip. 3189 02:49:48,270 --> 02:49:51,330 So if you run to the store, that's two trips kind of thing. 3190 02:49:51,330 --> 02:49:56,570 So when we look at a street, like a Foxfire or Greenview, 3191 02:49:56,570 --> 02:49:58,530 they are generating the number of trips 3192 02:49:58,530 --> 02:50:02,530 that would be in that range, so to speak, from those houses 3193 02:50:02,530 --> 02:50:03,300 there. 3194 02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:06,730 You're not getting much more in the way of additional traffic 3195 02:50:06,730 --> 02:50:09,470 running through those streets, unlike Crom, 3196 02:50:09,470 --> 02:50:11,610 because it does have that connection to both Union 3197 02:50:11,610 --> 02:50:12,550 and Airport. 3198 02:50:12,550 --> 02:50:14,155 You're getting a lot more traffic. 3199 02:50:14,155 --> 02:50:15,530 You're getting the school traffic 3200 02:50:15,530 --> 02:50:18,748 from people beyond just the immediate neighborhood. 3201 02:50:18,748 --> 02:50:20,290 And you're getting people that that's 3202 02:50:20,290 --> 02:50:23,730 just another way because you've either got Louise to the north 3203 02:50:23,730 --> 02:50:25,530 or you've got Yosemite to the south. 3204 02:50:25,530 --> 02:50:27,130 And Crom's right in between. 3205 02:50:27,130 --> 02:50:29,190 So you do get those additional volumes. 3206 02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:31,570 And that's why I think, historically, it 3207 02:50:31,570 --> 02:50:34,370 has had a higher speed limit like 35. 3208 02:50:34,370 --> 02:50:38,210 And that's where we're trying to work within the limits 3209 02:50:38,210 --> 02:50:40,750 that we have from an engineering standpoint. 3210 02:50:40,750 --> 02:50:43,110 When we put out the tubes and we measure the speeds, 3211 02:50:43,110 --> 02:50:46,290 we measure the volumes, and then we look at the other criteria 3212 02:50:46,290 --> 02:50:49,810 to come up with what can we be defensible as, 3213 02:50:49,810 --> 02:50:53,450 and what can we provide for PD to enforce the speed 3214 02:50:53,450 --> 02:50:58,900 limit rather than just jump to what people would like it to be, 3215 02:50:58,900 --> 02:51:00,510 in this case, 25 miles an hour. 3216 02:51:00,510 --> 02:51:03,730 And so it is a bit of an incremental step, if you will. 3217 02:51:03,730 --> 02:51:07,530 But now, if we can get approval on the 30 miles an hour here 3218 02:51:07,530 --> 02:51:11,610 and if there is consensus amongst the neighborhood 3219 02:51:11,610 --> 02:51:14,410 to get the speed lumps, I think you will see that speed 3220 02:51:14,410 --> 02:51:16,540 drop because as you noted, there's 3221 02:51:16,540 --> 02:51:18,420 been a lot of incremental things that we've 3222 02:51:18,420 --> 02:51:20,880 done to try to get people to slow down. 3223 02:51:20,880 --> 02:51:22,640 And we have been somewhat successful. 3224 02:51:22,640 --> 02:51:25,100 You are going to always get that 15%. 3225 02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:27,640 Those are the people that are going to speed no matter what. 3226 02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:31,800 And that's why you have speed limits set at 85th percentile 3227 02:51:31,800 --> 02:51:34,660 because you're always going to get some of those outliers, 3228 02:51:34,660 --> 02:51:36,300 if you will. 3229 02:51:36,300 --> 02:51:39,480 But anyway, so if we can get it down to 30 now 3230 02:51:39,480 --> 02:51:42,400 and if the neighborhood supports the speed limits, 3231 02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:44,220 I think you'll see the speeds drop. 3232 02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:46,180 But it is an incremental process and we 3233 02:51:46,180 --> 02:51:48,822 have to work within the limits that we're given. 3234 02:51:48,822 --> 02:51:49,780 So for the California-- 3235 02:51:49,780 --> 02:51:51,530 What's the time frame that we'd be looking 3236 02:51:51,530 --> 02:51:53,140 at for those speed lumps? 3237 02:51:53,140 --> 02:51:53,720 I'm sorry? 3238 02:51:53,720 --> 02:51:55,540 What's the time frame if-- 3239 02:51:55,540 --> 02:51:57,940 he was to get the approval for the speed lumps, what's 3240 02:51:57,940 --> 02:52:00,720 the time frame that he's looking at, 3241 02:52:00,720 --> 02:52:03,420 that that neighborhood is looking at? 3242 02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:09,420 Once he submits a petition, probably four to six months. 3243 02:52:12,620 --> 02:52:14,510 City attorney, is there anything that 3244 02:52:14,510 --> 02:52:19,910 states I can't go out there and door knock? 3245 02:52:20,590 --> 02:52:22,300 For what? 3246 02:52:22,300 --> 02:52:23,270 For signatures. 3247 02:52:23,270 --> 02:52:23,790 For? 3248 02:52:23,790 --> 02:52:24,870 Speed lumps. 3249 02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:27,750 Yeah, no, I mean, they're saying once you get-- 3250 02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:28,610 I understand. 3251 02:52:28,610 --> 02:52:31,350 I'm asking the city attorney, is there anything that says that I 3252 02:52:31,350 --> 02:52:35,710 cannot go out with Mr. Gedney and ask the neighbors on Crom 3253 02:52:35,710 --> 02:52:38,110 Street to sign that paper. 3254 02:52:38,110 --> 02:52:43,830 You're a resident like any other person in the city. 3255 02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:45,950 I think speed lumps should-- 3256 02:52:45,950 --> 02:52:47,670 OK, thank you. 3257 02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:50,730 So once we do get an application, hopefully, 3258 02:52:50,730 --> 02:52:54,990 and it's approved, then it falls in with all of our other speed 3259 02:52:54,990 --> 02:52:56,990 lump requests. 3260 02:52:58,500 --> 02:53:00,500 Correct. 3261 02:53:02,110 --> 02:53:04,510 Anything else, Vice Mayor? 3262 02:53:05,270 --> 02:53:07,270 Thank you. 3263 02:53:07,630 --> 02:53:11,270 Council Member Halford, you know anything about speed trailers 3264 02:53:11,270 --> 02:53:14,270 and speed bumps and speeding? 3265 02:53:15,610 --> 02:53:17,610 Maybe. 3266 02:53:19,550 --> 02:53:21,450 Crom Street, when it was first built, 3267 02:53:21,450 --> 02:53:23,430 did not extend all the way to Airport. 3268 02:53:23,430 --> 02:53:27,300 It is a wide, straight street. 3269 02:53:27,150 --> 02:53:30,470 And there has historically been some speeding issues there. 3270 02:53:30,470 --> 02:53:32,510 I'm not sure what the original speed limit on it 3271 02:53:32,510 --> 02:53:37,310 was 25 years ago, whenever it was first built. 3272 02:53:39,310 --> 02:53:41,230 There were no sidewalks. 3273 02:53:41,230 --> 02:53:44,590 There are no sidewalks on parts of it, which was by design. 3274 02:53:44,590 --> 02:53:47,350 That's a rural estate zone there. 3275 02:53:47,350 --> 02:53:52,150 That's what people wanted and what people purchased 3276 02:53:52,390 --> 02:53:55,390 when they moved in there. 3277 02:53:56,750 --> 02:53:59,250 As a result of speeding complaints many years ago, 3278 02:53:59,250 --> 02:54:00,790 the little-- 3279 02:54:00,790 --> 02:54:04,110 I don't know what you call that little divot that got put in, 3280 02:54:04,110 --> 02:54:08,950 that there was not sufficient room to make a roundabout 3281 02:54:08,950 --> 02:54:11,320 or to put an island in the middle of it. 3282 02:54:11,320 --> 02:54:17,920 Because when people get on the street, the line of sight, 3283 02:54:18,760 --> 02:54:19,860 there's no obstruction. 3284 02:54:19,860 --> 02:54:21,660 So it's easy to get up to speed. 3285 02:54:21,660 --> 02:54:26,257 So that was the purpose of that little divot that got put in. 3286 02:54:26,257 --> 02:54:27,840 After that, there's been a couple stop 3287 02:54:27,840 --> 02:54:31,400 signs that have been put in, which 3288 02:54:31,400 --> 02:54:33,400 are not good for speed control. 3289 02:54:33,400 --> 02:54:36,200 All it does is slow them down for the 150 feet on either side 3290 02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:38,880 of it, and create dust and noise issues, 3291 02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:43,280 and create stop sign violations, which is the same thing with 3292 02:54:43,280 --> 02:54:44,960 85th percentile. 3293 02:54:44,960 --> 02:54:47,960 That historically has been gauged 3294 02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:52,920 to be what is a safe speed because people normally 3295 02:54:52,920 --> 02:54:57,800 drive a safe speed for condition, which is what 22350 3296 02:54:57,800 --> 02:54:59,800 of the Vehicle Code says is you have to drive 3297 02:54:59,800 --> 02:55:01,800 what's [INAUDIBLE] condition. 3298 02:55:02,500 --> 02:55:05,680 The code also defines what a prima facie residential street 3299 02:55:05,680 --> 02:55:07,320 is. 3300 02:55:07,320 --> 02:55:08,980 It's been out of business for 18 years. 3301 02:55:08,980 --> 02:55:10,780 I don't remember the exact criteria, 3302 02:55:10,780 --> 02:55:13,160 but I don't think Crom Street meets that definition. 3303 02:55:13,160 --> 02:55:15,520 I think you have to have houses on both sides 3304 02:55:15,520 --> 02:55:17,800 for a certain distance. 3305 02:55:17,800 --> 02:55:18,920 Two lane road. 3306 02:55:18,920 --> 02:55:22,480 It has to be a certain density of houses within an x number. 3307 02:55:22,480 --> 02:55:27,600 And I would be surprised if Crom meets that definition for prima 3308 02:55:27,600 --> 02:55:31,400 facie 25, which means you have to justify a 25 mile an hour 3309 02:55:31,400 --> 02:55:35,240 speed limit based on the traffic safety and engineering study. 3310 02:55:35,240 --> 02:55:38,960 One crash in five years, now, you 3311 02:55:38,960 --> 02:55:40,960 cited several but more than five years ago 3312 02:55:40,960 --> 02:55:44,480 is not going to justify a reduction of speed limit, 3313 02:55:44,480 --> 02:55:47,840 particularly when it did not involve a pedestrian. 3314 02:55:47,840 --> 02:55:49,380 There is an existing school zone. 3315 02:55:49,380 --> 02:55:53,580 Does anybody know what the start and end zone points are, 3316 02:55:53,580 --> 02:55:54,840 the school zone? 3317 02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:56,840 500 feet. 3318 02:55:57,240 --> 02:55:59,320 500 feet from the limit of the school. 3319 02:55:59,320 --> 02:56:03,520 So that exists now, at 25, whenever there are children 3320 02:56:03,520 --> 02:56:05,520 present. 3321 02:56:07,400 --> 02:56:13,490 The other issue is if you set a speed limit that's lower 3322 02:56:13,490 --> 02:56:16,190 than what people perceive to be safe, 3323 02:56:16,190 --> 02:56:18,500 they're going to violate it. 3324 02:56:18,500 --> 02:56:22,850 It's going to happen because of human nature. 3325 02:56:24,850 --> 02:56:30,570 They're going to drive what they perceive to be safe. 3326 02:56:30,570 --> 02:56:34,100 I mean, I take that road quite a bit. 3327 02:56:34,100 --> 02:56:35,550 I don't drive 35 on it. 3328 02:56:35,550 --> 02:56:41,610 I drive about 30 miles an hour when I go down Crom Street. 3329 02:56:41,610 --> 02:56:44,530 If there are kids going to and from school, 3330 02:56:44,530 --> 02:56:46,530 obviously I'm driving 25. 3331 02:56:49,990 --> 02:56:51,570 I understand Mr. Gedney's position. 3332 02:56:51,570 --> 02:56:55,170 And he bought a house there. 3333 02:56:55,890 --> 02:56:58,500 Maybe he didn't realize the traffic that 3334 02:56:58,500 --> 02:56:59,390 was on there when he bought it. 3335 02:56:59,390 --> 02:57:03,330 He wants to sit in his front yard and enjoy the view, 3336 02:57:03,330 --> 02:57:06,930 have his grandkids play out front. 3337 02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:09,780 And he doesn't think that's safe to do 3338 02:57:09,780 --> 02:57:13,580 and doesn't appreciate the traffic that's on there. 3339 02:57:13,580 --> 02:57:15,800 I'm not sure what the traffic count is on. 3340 02:57:15,800 --> 02:57:17,860 I think I saw it on there, 2,500? 3341 02:57:17,860 --> 02:57:19,860 Around that, yeah. 3342 02:57:20,380 --> 02:57:21,125 Per day. 3343 02:57:21,125 --> 02:57:23,500 Obviously, it's concentrated in the morning and afternoon 3344 02:57:23,500 --> 02:57:24,580 when school's in session. 3345 02:57:24,580 --> 02:57:30,220 It would be nice if the traffic officers, when school's 3346 02:57:30,220 --> 02:57:33,580 in session, they could be out there working a little radar. 3347 02:57:33,580 --> 02:57:38,980 Encourage people to drive the 25 in the school zone. 3348 02:57:39,980 --> 02:57:45,620 I would be hesitant to put 25 miles an hour on Crom. 3349 02:57:45,620 --> 02:57:50,900 This going to encourage people to violate the speed zone. 3350 02:57:50,900 --> 02:57:56,300 And the history of crashes just doesn't justify it. 3351 02:58:00,580 --> 02:58:03,580 All right, Council Member Breitenbucher. 3352 02:58:07,435 --> 02:58:11,350 How do you follow that one? 3353 02:58:11,780 --> 02:58:13,860 No, I think the speed that they've come up with 3354 02:58:13,860 --> 02:58:16,940 is fine, as far as the form. 3355 02:58:16,940 --> 02:58:19,220 If you're filling out the form and you're not 3356 02:58:19,220 --> 02:58:21,940 willing to say that you want speed bumps in front 3357 02:58:21,940 --> 02:58:24,700 of your house, why are you filling it out? 3358 02:58:24,700 --> 02:58:28,500 You're expecting others to do what you don't want to. 3359 02:58:28,500 --> 02:58:30,800 I think it is a good question. 3360 02:58:30,800 --> 02:58:32,500 It shouldn't be a surprise. 3361 02:58:32,500 --> 02:58:36,900 And as far as the ownership, yes, if you're a renter, 3362 02:58:36,900 --> 02:58:39,300 that can cause problems. 3363 02:58:40,180 --> 02:58:41,500 Yeah, I'm OK with this. 3364 02:58:41,500 --> 02:58:42,840 I think it's reasonable. 3365 02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:45,140 And we can also do the speed bumps now. 3366 02:58:45,140 --> 02:58:46,380 So I think we're good. 3367 02:58:46,380 --> 02:58:47,820 Thank you. 3368 02:58:47,820 --> 02:58:49,820 Council Member Morowit. 3369 02:58:49,860 --> 02:58:52,200 Maybe I can ask the police chief to clarify 3370 02:58:52,200 --> 02:58:55,200 what a school zone is. 3371 02:58:55,180 --> 02:58:56,320 We hear it all the time. 3372 02:58:56,320 --> 02:58:58,620 What does it actually mean? 3373 02:58:58,620 --> 02:59:01,200 A school zone is-- 3374 02:59:01,100 --> 02:59:04,100 it's marked out in certain areas near schools 3375 02:59:04,100 --> 02:59:06,300 within 500 feet of the school. 3376 02:59:06,300 --> 02:59:09,430 And it says when children are present-- 3377 02:59:09,430 --> 02:59:13,490 and the Vehicle Code states that when children are present, 3378 02:59:13,490 --> 02:59:19,410 there can't be a barrier between them and where they're at. 3379 02:59:19,410 --> 02:59:24,110 For instance, here, just because school is in session 3380 02:59:24,110 --> 02:59:26,110 doesn't mean it's 25. 3381 02:59:27,310 --> 02:59:29,570 Children are present, but by the Vehicle Code, 3382 02:59:29,570 --> 02:59:32,670 there's a barrier because it has a cyclone fence. 3383 02:59:32,670 --> 02:59:35,150 And so it doesn't count as children are present. 3384 02:59:35,150 --> 02:59:39,670 Similar, we have them like by Sequoyah School and other areas 3385 02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:43,190 where children are present or Northgate 3386 02:59:43,190 --> 02:59:45,350 is a good one with Neil Hafley, where it just 3387 02:59:45,350 --> 02:59:49,230 has those like a little pylon with a chain. 3388 02:59:49,230 --> 02:59:50,790 That's a barrier. 3389 02:59:50,790 --> 02:59:55,170 And so if they're in that park playing, there's a barrier. 3390 02:59:55,170 --> 02:59:57,290 So it doesn't count as when children are present. 3391 02:59:57,290 --> 02:59:59,710 And so it's when they're walking-- 3392 02:59:59,710 --> 03:00:02,550 to protect them when they're walking to and from school 3393 03:00:02,550 --> 03:00:04,800 because there's no barrier there. 3394 03:00:04,800 --> 03:00:06,440 Thank you. 3395 03:00:06,440 --> 03:00:13,400 Also when the school ground, the one carrying the stop sign 3396 03:00:13,400 --> 03:00:15,000 are in operation. 3397 03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:16,160 So yeah. 3398 03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:17,180 The crossing guard? 3399 03:00:17,180 --> 03:00:18,550 Yeah, crossing guard. 3400 03:00:18,550 --> 03:00:19,960 Crossing guard, OK. 3401 03:00:19,960 --> 03:00:25,640 I too lived about 1500 Block of Crom Street until about 2014. 3402 03:00:25,640 --> 03:00:27,640 Then I moved. 3403 03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:31,260 At that time, there was really nothing there. 3404 03:00:31,260 --> 03:00:32,840 It had no stop signs. 3405 03:00:32,840 --> 03:00:34,100 They had one. 3406 03:00:34,100 --> 03:00:36,360 I believe Council Member Moorhead 3407 03:00:36,360 --> 03:00:39,520 was pretty instrumental in getting a second stop 3408 03:00:39,520 --> 03:00:42,400 sign off one of the streets as well because she 3409 03:00:42,400 --> 03:00:42,900 lived in that area. 3410 03:00:42,900 --> 03:00:45,440 We didn't have districts then. 3411 03:00:45,440 --> 03:00:49,200 So now, I've been down that street because I do frequent it 3412 03:00:49,200 --> 03:00:53,400 as well because I live off of Northgate. 3413 03:00:53,400 --> 03:00:57,840 There's, I guess, flashing stop signs have been put in recently. 3414 03:00:57,840 --> 03:00:59,800 I've seen the-- 3415 03:00:59,800 --> 03:00:59,960 247. 3416 03:00:59,960 --> 03:01:01,960 247 there on. 3417 03:01:02,160 --> 03:01:07,502 I've seen them also on the bike lanes, both sides. 3418 03:01:07,502 --> 03:01:08,960 So there's been a tremendous amount 3419 03:01:08,960 --> 03:01:13,160 of improvements in the last 10, 12 years actually. 3420 03:01:13,880 --> 03:01:17,400 I do think if you really want to slow people down, 3421 03:01:17,400 --> 03:01:18,300 signs are great. 3422 03:01:18,300 --> 03:01:20,620 But I don't know if Mr. Gedney would agree with me. 3423 03:01:20,620 --> 03:01:23,640 But that's how he made a living, was writing citations 3424 03:01:23,640 --> 03:01:25,840 for people who didn't pay attention to signs. 3425 03:01:25,840 --> 03:01:30,400 So in my mind, by reducing it to 30 miles an hour 3426 03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:33,920 and the ability now for him to be able to fill out a form-- 3427 03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:36,812 and hopefully people will agree with him, put a speed lump, 3428 03:01:36,812 --> 03:01:39,640 or bump in, whatever you like to call them. 3429 03:01:39,640 --> 03:01:42,380 I think that's probably the better solution 3430 03:01:42,380 --> 03:01:46,400 because I can tell you that people don't like driving down 3431 03:01:46,400 --> 03:01:50,100 streets with speed bumps just because they don't like it. 3432 03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:51,460 And we have it down Hacienda. 3433 03:01:51,460 --> 03:01:52,420 We have it all over. 3434 03:01:52,420 --> 03:01:55,220 It used to be nearly impossible to put one of those in town. 3435 03:01:55,220 --> 03:01:58,640 It wasn't done when I was on council before, when 3436 03:01:58,640 --> 03:02:00,180 we came back it's important. 3437 03:02:00,180 --> 03:02:02,100 So the speed bumps and lumps to me 3438 03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:04,430 are really going to be what's going to be the important. 3439 03:02:04,430 --> 03:02:06,970 We also put those on the safe routes 3440 03:02:06,970 --> 03:02:08,470 to schools, in front of the schools. 3441 03:02:08,470 --> 03:02:10,890 Now that's become common practice. 3442 03:02:10,890 --> 03:02:13,850 I just had them installed those flashing LED lights 3443 03:02:13,850 --> 03:02:17,330 on the corner of London and Northgate as well. 3444 03:02:17,330 --> 03:02:20,500 That was another-- these are all traffic calming, 3445 03:02:20,500 --> 03:02:22,650 but a sign alone doesn't make the difference 3446 03:02:22,650 --> 03:02:24,490 if someone is just a jerk. 3447 03:02:24,490 --> 03:02:27,210 And like I say, if you make a career out of writing traffic 3448 03:02:27,210 --> 03:02:30,770 citations, I think you probably see more of those than I have. 3449 03:02:30,770 --> 03:02:33,820 But people who don't pay attention don't pay attention. 3450 03:02:33,820 --> 03:02:35,290 But I do think the speed lumps and bumps are probably 3451 03:02:35,290 --> 03:02:39,110 going to be the biggest answer to your problem. 3452 03:02:39,110 --> 03:02:42,500 And by going to 30, it allows you to do it. 3453 03:02:42,500 --> 03:02:45,290 And that's probably a better alternative than just a sign 3454 03:02:45,290 --> 03:02:46,990 because it really does slow you down. 3455 03:02:46,990 --> 03:02:50,610 And quite frankly, you will probably be very annoyed by them 3456 03:02:50,610 --> 03:02:51,110 as well. 3457 03:02:51,110 --> 03:02:53,250 But you're willing to make that sacrifice because 3458 03:02:53,250 --> 03:02:55,750 of your grandkids and other kids walking. 3459 03:02:55,750 --> 03:02:58,810 So I think it's a small price to pay for something that we 3460 03:02:58,810 --> 03:02:59,960 didn't do years ago. 3461 03:02:59,960 --> 03:03:01,720 I mean, literally, quite frankly, 3462 03:03:01,720 --> 03:03:05,882 until Mayor Singh came along, it was impossible to get it done. 3463 03:03:05,882 --> 03:03:07,340 I remember working with [INAUDIBLE] 3464 03:03:07,340 --> 03:03:09,400 before you came in engineering. 3465 03:03:09,400 --> 03:03:11,560 It took like two years sometimes to get one. 3466 03:03:11,560 --> 03:03:14,220 I think the ones at Hacienda took 18 months to get. 3467 03:03:14,220 --> 03:03:16,980 So what you do now and we just did at tonight's meeting 3468 03:03:16,980 --> 03:03:20,420 is proof of the pudding that it works. 3469 03:03:20,420 --> 03:03:23,400 And it's an ability for the neighbors to get something done. 3470 03:03:23,400 --> 03:03:28,400 So I think this is a good solution for a bad situation. 3471 03:03:28,400 --> 03:03:29,820 And I've gotten Mr. Gedney's emails 3472 03:03:29,820 --> 03:03:31,820 probably for over a year now. 3473 03:03:31,820 --> 03:03:34,240 And so I know he's very passionate, 3474 03:03:34,240 --> 03:03:38,200 but I think this might be the answer, some speed lumps. 3475 03:03:38,200 --> 03:03:39,600 Thank you. 3476 03:03:39,600 --> 03:03:40,740 Thank you. 3477 03:03:40,740 --> 03:03:42,260 Yeah, I know. 3478 03:03:42,260 --> 03:03:44,220 I've gone down Crom all the time. 3479 03:03:44,220 --> 03:03:49,140 I've sat with Mr. Gedney and watched these speeders, people 3480 03:03:49,140 --> 03:03:51,140 running stop signs. 3481 03:03:51,260 --> 03:03:55,100 End of the day, I think, for the people that are not 3482 03:03:55,100 --> 03:03:56,860 following the rules, it doesn't matter 3483 03:03:56,860 --> 03:03:58,980 what the speed limit sign says. 3484 03:03:58,980 --> 03:04:03,260 But we also need to make sure we can enforce it. 3485 03:04:03,260 --> 03:04:08,200 As you can see, with all of the speed bumps 3486 03:04:08,200 --> 03:04:12,600 and lumps going on throughout our city, 3487 03:04:12,600 --> 03:04:13,820 that has made a difference. 3488 03:04:13,820 --> 03:04:15,940 It is truly slowing people down. 3489 03:04:15,940 --> 03:04:17,240 I'm a believer. 3490 03:04:17,240 --> 03:04:20,200 I mean, unless you put something in their way, 3491 03:04:20,200 --> 03:04:24,340 they're not going to slow down no matter what the sign says. 3492 03:04:24,340 --> 03:04:28,660 This is why, I think now 7, 8 years ago, 3493 03:04:28,660 --> 03:04:33,680 I brought speed lumps, traffic calming to our city. 3494 03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:35,220 And it was a big push. 3495 03:04:35,220 --> 03:04:37,140 We didn't really want to do it. 3496 03:04:37,140 --> 03:04:40,100 I know people in the room that still don't like them. 3497 03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:43,500 But it's something I think has really worked out 3498 03:04:43,500 --> 03:04:46,980 really good, especially in neighborhoods and areas that 3499 03:04:46,980 --> 03:04:50,200 are thoroughfares or collectors, where it's creating 3500 03:04:50,200 --> 03:04:53,200 the issue of people speeding. 3501 03:04:53,140 --> 03:04:57,750 And I think slowing people down is your goal. 3502 03:04:57,750 --> 03:05:02,230 And I think now that we're going to get to that 30 mile magic 3503 03:05:02,230 --> 03:05:05,710 number in order to get speed lumps. 3504 03:05:05,710 --> 03:05:07,870 I think we're going to solve some of these issues 3505 03:05:07,870 --> 03:05:11,990 and hopefully, on the long run, slow people down. 3506 03:05:11,990 --> 03:05:14,830 So I'm supportive of this. 3507 03:05:14,830 --> 03:05:17,830 My biggest issue with taking it down to 25 3508 03:05:17,830 --> 03:05:20,990 is I don't think it's going to solve anything because I don't 3509 03:05:20,990 --> 03:05:24,150 think we're going to be able to enforce some people that 3510 03:05:24,150 --> 03:05:29,300 are going faster at that point for the police department. 3511 03:05:29,300 --> 03:05:33,110 And a good section of it is 25 right now 3512 03:05:33,110 --> 03:05:35,510 when children are present. 3513 03:05:36,670 --> 03:05:40,150 But I truly feel that the next solution-- and if you 3514 03:05:40,150 --> 03:05:42,910 have issues with your neighbors not willing 3515 03:05:42,910 --> 03:05:46,750 to sign that application, I'd be happy to come and help you 3516 03:05:46,750 --> 03:05:50,550 because I've convinced a lot of people about speed bumps. 3517 03:05:50,550 --> 03:05:51,850 So they work. 3518 03:05:51,850 --> 03:05:54,350 And you can see with all the ones we approved tonight. 3519 03:05:54,350 --> 03:05:57,240 And I think we've done like 50 of them 3520 03:05:57,240 --> 03:06:00,240 so far throughout the city. 3521 03:06:01,480 --> 03:06:05,680 So with that, I'll entertain a motion. 3522 03:06:07,240 --> 03:06:08,400 All right. 3523 03:06:08,400 --> 03:06:09,520 Second. 3524 03:06:09,520 --> 03:06:13,460 All right, we have a motion from Vice Mayor and a second for-- 3525 03:06:13,460 --> 03:06:15,560 I'm going to give it to Charlie this time. 3526 03:06:15,560 --> 03:06:18,200 Second from Council Member Halford to adopt a resolution 3527 03:06:18,200 --> 03:06:20,520 approving amendment number 2 for the engineering and traffic 3528 03:06:20,520 --> 03:06:23,800 survey for speed limits, waive the first reading 3529 03:06:23,800 --> 03:06:25,680 by substitution of title and introduce an ordinance 3530 03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:28,500 of the City Council of the City of Manteca, State of California, 3531 03:06:28,500 --> 03:06:33,600 amending Manteca Municipal Code Title 10 vehicles and traffic 3532 03:06:33,600 --> 03:06:35,460 Chapter 10.12 speed limit section 10.12.020, 3533 03:06:39,280 --> 03:06:42,560 designated and authorizing the city manager to designate 3534 03:06:42,560 --> 03:06:45,440 to take all appropriate actions necessary to carry out 3535 03:06:45,440 --> 03:06:47,900 the purpose and intent of the resolution. 3536 03:06:47,900 --> 03:06:49,240 All in favor, say aye. 3537 03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:50,200 Aye. 3538 03:06:50,200 --> 03:06:50,740 Opposed? 3539 03:06:50,740 --> 03:06:52,740 Motion carries 5-0. 3540 03:06:52,880 --> 03:06:54,360 Thank you. 3541 03:06:54,360 --> 03:06:56,360 Thank you, Beshoy. 3542 03:06:57,272 --> 03:06:58,800 Want a break? 3543 03:06:58,800 --> 03:07:01,800 Can we take a break? 3544 03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:05,600 I'm going to call it myself. 3545 03:07:10,600 --> 03:07:13,160 OK, and now we're back. 3546 03:07:13,160 --> 03:07:18,140 Before we go to item D5, I know that at 10 o'clock, 3547 03:07:18,140 --> 03:07:20,680 we usually have to ask for an extension of time 3548 03:07:20,680 --> 03:07:23,520 and make sure the council still wants to keep going. 3549 03:07:23,520 --> 03:07:26,600 So if I can get a motion. 3550 03:07:26,600 --> 03:07:27,520 Second. 3551 03:07:27,520 --> 03:07:30,200 I have a motion and a second from Council Member 3552 03:07:30,200 --> 03:07:31,240 Breitenbucher. 3553 03:07:31,240 --> 03:07:32,300 All in favor, say aye. 3554 03:07:32,300 --> 03:07:34,300 Aye. 3555 03:07:36,160 --> 03:07:38,160 Wow. 3556 03:07:38,640 --> 03:07:40,640 Was that opposition? 3557 03:07:43,400 --> 03:07:47,440 All right, item D5 conduct a public hearing 3558 03:07:47,440 --> 03:07:50,440 and consider adopting a resolution, 1, 3559 03:07:51,600 --> 03:07:56,530 adopting the August 2026 park dedication and in lieu fee 3560 03:07:56,530 --> 03:08:00,770 and park acquisition and improvement fee nexus study, 2, 3561 03:08:00,770 --> 03:08:04,690 adopting the park acquisition and improvement fee project 3562 03:08:04,690 --> 03:08:08,890 list pursuant to Government Code sections 66016.5 and 66002, 3, 3563 03:08:14,490 --> 03:08:18,570 adopting updated park dedication and in lieu 3564 03:08:18,570 --> 03:08:22,770 fees, and park acquisition and improvement fees, 4, 3565 03:08:22,930 --> 03:08:26,990 directing staff to implement the updated fees effective January 3566 03:08:26,990 --> 03:08:29,990 1, 2027, including the phased implementation schedule, 5, 3567 03:08:32,910 --> 03:08:35,190 waive the first reading by substitution of the title, 3568 03:08:35,190 --> 03:08:37,500 and introduce an ordinance of the City 3569 03:08:37,500 --> 03:08:40,130 Council of the City of Manteca, State of California, 3570 03:08:40,130 --> 03:08:44,530 repealing and replacing chapter 3.20 of the Manteca Municipal 3571 03:08:44,530 --> 03:08:48,370 Code entitled park acquisition and improvement fees, 3572 03:08:48,370 --> 03:08:53,770 and adding chapter 3.21 of the Manteca Municipal Code entitled 3573 03:08:54,580 --> 03:08:57,363 park dedication and in lieu fees. 3574 03:08:57,363 --> 03:08:58,780 Mayor and council, tonight we have 3575 03:08:58,780 --> 03:09:03,580 director of parks, recreation, and transit, Brandy Clark. 3576 03:09:11,300 --> 03:09:14,520 Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. 3577 03:09:14,520 --> 03:09:18,220 Brandy Clark, director of parks, recreation, and transit. 3578 03:09:18,220 --> 03:09:22,340 Before you tonight is a public hearing 3579 03:09:22,340 --> 03:09:26,700 to adopt a resolution adopting the park impact fee nexus 3580 03:09:26,700 --> 03:09:29,700 study and park impact fees. 3581 03:09:29,820 --> 03:09:31,900 This update is intended to ensure 3582 03:09:31,900 --> 03:09:35,620 that new residential development contributes its fair share 3583 03:09:35,620 --> 03:09:38,740 toward parkland and recreational facilities needed to serve 3584 03:09:38,740 --> 03:09:40,740 Manteca's continued growth. 3585 03:09:40,980 --> 03:09:44,440 This has been a significant and highly collaborative effort. 3586 03:09:44,440 --> 03:09:48,260 Staff worked closely with our consultants, legal counsel, 3587 03:09:48,260 --> 03:09:52,460 development services, and representatives of the Building 3588 03:09:53,500 --> 03:09:57,340 Industry Association to develop a program that 3589 03:09:57,340 --> 03:10:00,600 supports the city's long term park needs, 3590 03:10:00,600 --> 03:10:03,500 while recognizing the concerns of the development community. 3591 03:10:03,500 --> 03:10:08,780 I'd like to thank Megan Quinn of Harrison & Associates, who 3592 03:10:08,780 --> 03:10:10,980 will provide tonight's presentation, 3593 03:10:10,980 --> 03:10:14,360 as well as Megan Burke, the city's outside legal counsel, 3594 03:10:14,360 --> 03:10:17,820 for their guidance and extensive work throughout this process. 3595 03:10:17,820 --> 03:10:22,480 I'd also like to recognize Megan Kuster, administrative assistant 3596 03:10:22,480 --> 03:10:25,500 3, Michael Rosales, parks planning and development 3597 03:10:25,500 --> 03:10:27,860 manager, and Brad Wungluck, director 3598 03:10:27,860 --> 03:10:31,620 of development services for their hard work, collaboration, 3599 03:10:31,620 --> 03:10:34,420 and commitment to moving this project forward. 3600 03:10:34,420 --> 03:10:37,600 I'd also like to thank organizations and community 3601 03:10:37,600 --> 03:10:40,940 partners that submitted letters of support for this project. 3602 03:10:40,940 --> 03:10:43,740 Their engagement and support reflect the importance 3603 03:10:43,740 --> 03:10:46,620 of investing in parks and recreation facilities that 3604 03:10:46,620 --> 03:10:50,390 will serve Manteca residents now and into the future. 3605 03:10:50,390 --> 03:10:53,790 Finally, I'd like to thank the BIA and its members 3606 03:10:53,790 --> 03:10:57,390 for its communication, participation, and partnership 3607 03:10:57,390 --> 03:11:00,270 in helping us bring this item to the finish line. 3608 03:11:00,270 --> 03:11:03,630 With that, I'll turn it over to Megan Quinn. 3609 03:11:03,630 --> 03:11:05,210 I along with the rest of the team 3610 03:11:05,210 --> 03:11:11,810 will also be available for any questions that you may have. 3611 03:11:13,990 --> 03:11:15,730 Thank you very much, Brandy. 3612 03:11:15,730 --> 03:11:19,550 And good evening, Mayor Singh and members of the council. 3613 03:11:19,550 --> 03:11:21,990 I will try to go through this presentation 3614 03:11:21,990 --> 03:11:23,130 as quickly as possible. 3615 03:11:23,130 --> 03:11:26,130 I do know it's late. 3616 03:11:26,350 --> 03:11:28,870 So just here to talk tonight about the park 3617 03:11:28,870 --> 03:11:32,700 impact fees, a little bit about what development impact 3618 03:11:32,700 --> 03:11:34,670 fees are, and why they are important. 3619 03:11:34,670 --> 03:11:37,330 So development impact fees are one time fees. 3620 03:11:37,330 --> 03:11:40,290 I just want to mention that they're not taxes. 3621 03:11:40,290 --> 03:11:42,510 They are fees that are paid by new development 3622 03:11:42,510 --> 03:11:47,520 to mitigate their impacts on parks and recreation facilities. 3623 03:11:47,520 --> 03:11:49,440 They're based on their fair share. 3624 03:11:49,440 --> 03:11:51,880 And its one time fees, as I mentioned. 3625 03:11:51,880 --> 03:11:53,820 They can only fund capital costs. 3626 03:11:53,820 --> 03:11:55,240 It does not fund anything related 3627 03:11:55,240 --> 03:11:57,640 to operations or maintenance. 3628 03:11:57,840 --> 03:11:59,960 And that's what the fees are based on, 3629 03:11:59,960 --> 03:12:02,200 land acquisition for parks and recreation, 3630 03:12:02,200 --> 03:12:05,560 as well as the facilities costs for parks. 3631 03:12:05,560 --> 03:12:09,100 The funds must be used for their intended purposes. 3632 03:12:09,100 --> 03:12:11,520 And that's outlined in the capital improvement 3633 03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:14,960 plan in the nexus study as appendix A, 3634 03:12:14,960 --> 03:12:17,160 as well as part of the resolution for you 3635 03:12:17,160 --> 03:12:19,160 to adopt today. 3636 03:12:19,360 --> 03:12:24,160 Assembly Bill 602, or AB 602 went into effect in 2022. 3637 03:12:24,900 --> 03:12:27,540 And that made some changes to development impact fees. 3638 03:12:27,540 --> 03:12:30,600 So one of the changes that you'll see for the park fees 3639 03:12:30,600 --> 03:12:33,720 is the residential fee going to a per square foot basis, where 3640 03:12:33,720 --> 03:12:38,800 it used to be a per unit basis, as well as having that capital 3641 03:12:38,800 --> 03:12:39,100 improvement plan. 3642 03:12:39,100 --> 03:12:41,840 So as the park fees collect revenue, 3643 03:12:41,840 --> 03:12:43,800 we do have a plan for how those revenues are 3644 03:12:43,800 --> 03:12:47,400 going to be spent on parks, as well as looking at the existing 3645 03:12:47,400 --> 03:12:50,640 level of service compared to the proposed level of service. 3646 03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:55,400 The existing level of service right now in the city is 5.01 3647 03:12:55,400 --> 03:12:56,840 acres per 1,000. 3648 03:12:56,840 --> 03:12:58,960 And the adopted level service in your city 3649 03:12:58,960 --> 03:13:01,700 is 5, which is what this park fee is based on. 3650 03:13:01,700 --> 03:13:03,880 So it's very similar. 3651 03:13:03,880 --> 03:13:07,120 And lastly, nexus studies must be updated every eight 3652 03:13:07,120 --> 03:13:08,380 years moving forward. 3653 03:13:08,380 --> 03:13:10,680 So after you do this update, in eight years 3654 03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:13,640 you will be required to do another update at least in eight 3655 03:13:13,640 --> 03:13:16,400 years for impact fees. 3656 03:13:21,960 --> 03:13:25,140 One of the purposes for updating development impact fees, 3657 03:13:25,140 --> 03:13:28,740 is not only just required by Assembly Bill 1600, 3658 03:13:28,740 --> 03:13:31,560 is also just to make sure that we're aligning the development 3659 03:13:31,560 --> 03:13:34,760 impact fees with the cost of park infrastructure, 3660 03:13:34,760 --> 03:13:37,120 as well as land acquisition for parks. 3661 03:13:37,120 --> 03:13:39,302 It also satisfies the Mitigation Fee Act, 3662 03:13:39,302 --> 03:13:40,760 making sure that we're in alignment 3663 03:13:40,760 --> 03:13:45,330 with current legislation, as well as any case law. 3664 03:13:45,330 --> 03:13:49,790 It satisfies the Quimby Act, as well as AB 1600, 3665 03:13:49,790 --> 03:13:53,930 or also known as the Mitigation Fee Act for impact fees. 3666 03:13:53,930 --> 03:13:58,730 And fees are typically able to be effective 60 days 3667 03:13:58,730 --> 03:14:01,130 after the last action by City Council. 3668 03:14:01,130 --> 03:14:04,730 These fees will be effective on January 1. 3669 03:14:04,730 --> 03:14:06,410 A lot of times, different jurisdictions 3670 03:14:06,410 --> 03:14:09,800 will make them effective January one or July 1, 3671 03:14:09,800 --> 03:14:11,330 just making it a little bit easier for new development 3672 03:14:11,330 --> 03:14:14,330 to know when they're effective. 3673 03:14:16,610 --> 03:14:18,590 As part of this update, we did a lot. 3674 03:14:18,590 --> 03:14:21,410 As Brandy mentioned, it was a really collaborative effort, 3675 03:14:21,410 --> 03:14:24,110 working with city staff, working with different departments, 3676 03:14:24,110 --> 03:14:28,370 working with the development community, as well as the BIA. 3677 03:14:28,370 --> 03:14:30,648 We updated the data, the land use data, 3678 03:14:30,648 --> 03:14:33,190 making sure it was in alignment with the city's general plan, 3679 03:14:33,190 --> 03:14:35,930 making sure that all the population 3680 03:14:35,930 --> 03:14:38,930 assumptions and projected growth were updated. 3681 03:14:38,930 --> 03:14:41,850 Updating the park and recreation master plan 3682 03:14:41,850 --> 03:14:44,410 was adopted by this council. 3683 03:14:44,410 --> 03:14:49,810 It was in January of 2026 by LPA Design Studios, 3684 03:14:50,900 --> 03:14:53,690 and that was a visionary document for the future 3685 03:14:53,690 --> 03:14:55,450 of your park and recreation. 3686 03:14:55,450 --> 03:14:58,500 All of the information, the assumptions and everything 3687 03:14:58,500 --> 03:14:59,930 that was adopted in that document 3688 03:14:59,930 --> 03:15:02,970 is also included in our nexus study. 3689 03:15:02,970 --> 03:15:06,670 The methodology complies with all legal requirements, 3690 03:15:06,670 --> 03:15:09,530 including the Mitigation Fee Act, the Quimby Act, 3691 03:15:09,530 --> 03:15:12,250 as well as any recent case law, including 3692 03:15:12,250 --> 03:15:15,770 the sheets case that went to the Supreme Court not too long ago. 3693 03:15:15,770 --> 03:15:17,730 It demonstrates rough proportionality 3694 03:15:17,730 --> 03:15:21,730 to new development, as well as essential nexus to the fees 3695 03:15:21,730 --> 03:15:25,890 and to the land uses that is being charged. 3696 03:15:25,890 --> 03:15:28,110 We also had a lot of coordination meetings, 3697 03:15:28,110 --> 03:15:32,150 not only with internal city coordination meetings, 3698 03:15:32,150 --> 03:15:33,790 but with legal counsel. 3699 03:15:33,790 --> 03:15:36,150 And then we had a lot of stakeholder outreach meetings, 3700 03:15:36,150 --> 03:15:37,908 again, with the development community, 3701 03:15:37,908 --> 03:15:39,450 really working with them, making sure 3702 03:15:39,450 --> 03:15:43,900 that we had that stakeholder outreach, and the BIA as part 3703 03:15:43,900 --> 03:15:45,900 of this process. 3704 03:15:47,600 --> 03:15:49,340 There's two different fees as part of this. 3705 03:15:49,340 --> 03:15:50,400 One's the Quimby Act. 3706 03:15:50,400 --> 03:15:53,220 One is the Mitigation Fee Act, but the fees are the same. 3707 03:15:53,220 --> 03:15:55,500 The only difference is one's for subdivision 3708 03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:57,540 and one's for non subdivision. 3709 03:15:57,540 --> 03:15:59,900 And that's because one's governed by the Quimby Act 3710 03:15:59,900 --> 03:16:02,620 and one's governed by the Mitigation Fee Act. 3711 03:16:02,620 --> 03:16:06,240 So for the subdivision, that's for land acquisition. 3712 03:16:06,240 --> 03:16:10,460 And so as it's shown on this slide and in the nexus study, 3713 03:16:10,460 --> 03:16:13,900 that's based on the Quimby Act, 5 acres per 1,000. 3714 03:16:13,900 --> 03:16:18,260 As I said, the existing level of service within your city 3715 03:16:18,260 --> 03:16:19,800 is 5.01. 3716 03:16:19,800 --> 03:16:22,980 But Quimby is based up to 5 acres per 1,000. 3717 03:16:22,980 --> 03:16:24,980 And any new subdivision development 3718 03:16:24,980 --> 03:16:27,620 will pay that for land acquisition. 3719 03:16:27,620 --> 03:16:33,200 They will pay the Mitigation Fee Act for facilities. 3720 03:16:34,140 --> 03:16:37,300 For any non subdivisions, they will pay the Mitigation Fee Act. 3721 03:16:37,300 --> 03:16:41,750 And it will be the same for land and non land, the facility 3722 03:16:41,750 --> 03:16:45,790 component for whether it's a subdivision or non subdivision. 3723 03:16:45,790 --> 03:16:50,590 And again, it's based on that 5 acres per 1,000. 3724 03:16:53,270 --> 03:16:56,710 The fee is broken into neighborhood parks, community 3725 03:16:56,710 --> 03:16:58,850 parks, and special use parks. 3726 03:16:58,850 --> 03:17:01,500 And there's different costs for each of those. 3727 03:17:01,500 --> 03:17:04,830 And that's based on the park master plan, as well as 3728 03:17:04,830 --> 03:17:07,350 additional data and assumptions done 3729 03:17:07,350 --> 03:17:09,550 by Harrison & Associates and some conversations 3730 03:17:09,550 --> 03:17:11,550 with the development community. 3731 03:17:11,550 --> 03:17:15,470 So as you can see here, the cost for a facility for a park 3732 03:17:15,470 --> 03:17:20,230 for neighborhood is 800,000, as well as the land acquisition is 3733 03:17:20,230 --> 03:17:21,830 250,000. 3734 03:17:21,830 --> 03:17:23,830 Community parks are 143,500. 3735 03:17:25,550 --> 03:17:29,910 And the facility cost to build that is 1.25 million. 3736 03:17:29,910 --> 03:17:34,690 And special use parks is 250,000 for land acquisition and 1.25 3737 03:17:34,690 --> 03:17:36,690 million. 3738 03:17:37,350 --> 03:17:41,410 Again, it's 5 acres per 1,000 as our level of service. 3739 03:17:41,410 --> 03:17:47,230 And we do have to do this analysis as part of AB 602. 3740 03:17:47,230 --> 03:17:50,830 This just shows the 2024 and 2026 acreage 3741 03:17:51,630 --> 03:17:53,810 looking at that due to Quimby. 3742 03:17:53,810 --> 03:17:59,350 And this is pulled straight from the park master plan. 3743 03:17:59,350 --> 03:18:01,990 And what everyone really cares about-- what is the actual fee 3744 03:18:01,990 --> 03:18:02,490 amount? 3745 03:18:02,490 --> 03:18:07,100 So your existing fee for single family is 3.99. 3746 03:18:07,100 --> 03:18:09,830 And your proposed fee is 8.53. 3747 03:18:09,830 --> 03:18:12,830 For multifamily development, it is 5.57. 3748 03:18:13,230 --> 03:18:16,230 And your proposed fee is 13.48. 3749 03:18:16,630 --> 03:18:21,130 The increase is a little bit over 100% for single family 3750 03:18:21,130 --> 03:18:23,530 and about 140% for multifamily. 3751 03:18:23,810 --> 03:18:26,130 This really reflects the updated cost. 3752 03:18:26,130 --> 03:18:28,690 The fee had not been updated in a long time. 3753 03:18:28,690 --> 03:18:30,610 And the cost of land acquisition, 3754 03:18:30,610 --> 03:18:32,230 as well as facility costs has really 3755 03:18:32,230 --> 03:18:35,190 escalated since the fee was last completed, 3756 03:18:35,190 --> 03:18:38,760 as well as there's been a lot of additional compliance 3757 03:18:38,760 --> 03:18:41,760 and changes to the fee. 3758 03:18:42,360 --> 03:18:44,100 I know this table is pretty hard to see, 3759 03:18:44,100 --> 03:18:46,400 so it's also in the Nexus study, but this just 3760 03:18:46,400 --> 03:18:48,320 shows the different components of the fee 3761 03:18:48,320 --> 03:18:50,680 and how it's broken out per subdivision and non 3762 03:18:50,680 --> 03:18:54,360 subdivision, as well as the facility component, 3763 03:18:54,360 --> 03:18:57,360 and the land acquisition component. 3764 03:18:59,560 --> 03:19:03,680 This shows the estimated fee revenue if all of the land uses 3765 03:19:03,680 --> 03:19:08,120 are estimated in the general plan at 2,400 were to have built 3766 03:19:08,120 --> 03:19:11,240 out, as well as the single family and multifamily revenue 3767 03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:14,200 for those proposed fees, and at build out, 3768 03:19:14,200 --> 03:19:18,200 that would be about $358 million with impact fees. 3769 03:19:18,200 --> 03:19:21,960 For parks, some of these parks will be built and dedicated 3770 03:19:21,960 --> 03:19:27,880 instead of the revenue given to the city to build. 3771 03:19:27,880 --> 03:19:30,300 It's another big table, so apologies there, 3772 03:19:30,300 --> 03:19:32,400 but this is our capital improvement plan. 3773 03:19:32,400 --> 03:19:37,100 It's also included as a attachment as part of the agenda 3774 03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:37,730 tonight. 3775 03:19:37,730 --> 03:19:39,290 But this is another part that needs 3776 03:19:39,290 --> 03:19:41,550 to be adopted as part of the nexus study. 3777 03:19:41,550 --> 03:19:45,230 It's Appendix A as well, which shows all of the planned parks. 3778 03:19:45,230 --> 03:19:47,790 So while we do have this updated fee, 3779 03:19:47,790 --> 03:19:49,290 there is a plan for all the parks 3780 03:19:49,290 --> 03:19:52,450 that plan to be built by 2040. 3781 03:19:52,450 --> 03:19:54,950 And this is in alignment with the park master plan, 3782 03:19:54,950 --> 03:19:56,610 as well as working with city staff 3783 03:19:56,610 --> 03:19:58,370 to make sure that these are planned parks 3784 03:19:58,370 --> 03:20:00,900 that the city plans to build. 3785 03:20:00,900 --> 03:20:02,530 The estimated construction year, if there's 3786 03:20:02,530 --> 03:20:06,430 any additional funding sources, and the total cost. 3787 03:20:06,430 --> 03:20:09,500 As you can see there, the cost does-- 3788 03:20:09,500 --> 03:20:11,100 is higher than the amount that would be funded 3789 03:20:11,100 --> 03:20:12,590 by development impact fees. 3790 03:20:12,590 --> 03:20:15,230 So development impact fees are new development's fair share. 3791 03:20:15,230 --> 03:20:19,430 The remaining is existing development's fair share. 3792 03:20:20,570 --> 03:20:24,330 Lastly, I just wanted to go over real briefly that we did send 3793 03:20:24,330 --> 03:20:29,370 the 30-day notice to all parties on July 39th in alignment with 3794 03:20:29,370 --> 03:20:30,790 the Mitigation Fee Act. 3795 03:20:30,790 --> 03:20:36,930 We published in the newspaper on July 10, as well as July 17. 3796 03:20:36,930 --> 03:20:40,470 We posted the nexus study more than 10 days prior, 3797 03:20:40,470 --> 03:20:43,890 as we have to do for the Mitigation Fee act on August 3798 03:20:43,890 --> 03:20:44,430 5th. 3799 03:20:44,430 --> 03:20:47,290 And then we're here today at our public hearing. 3800 03:20:47,290 --> 03:20:50,710 If adopted, the fees will go in effect on July 1st. 3801 03:20:50,710 --> 03:20:52,210 The last thing I want to mention is 3802 03:20:52,210 --> 03:20:55,610 there are phase fees that are included. 3803 03:20:55,610 --> 03:20:58,900 So there's the development impact fees 3804 03:20:58,900 --> 03:21:01,100 that are in the nexus study, which is the maximum justifiable 3805 03:21:01,100 --> 03:21:01,770 fee. 3806 03:21:01,770 --> 03:21:04,210 And then it's included with the phase fees amount 3807 03:21:04,210 --> 03:21:08,450 for developments that are in different processes and projects 3808 03:21:08,450 --> 03:21:11,410 farther along within the development process. 3809 03:21:11,410 --> 03:21:15,100 And that's included in your package. 3810 03:21:17,900 --> 03:21:20,690 I'm now open for any questions. 3811 03:21:21,530 --> 03:21:23,930 All right, thank you. 3812 03:21:25,970 --> 03:21:30,810 Council have any questions before I open up for public? 3813 03:21:30,810 --> 03:21:37,380 OK, we'll go ahead and open up the public hearing at 10:04. 3814 03:21:37,380 --> 03:21:39,380 Zoom, anybody there? 3815 03:21:46,460 --> 03:21:48,660 I do have attendees, but no hands 3816 03:21:48,660 --> 03:21:53,460 are raised for public comment on item D.5. 3817 03:21:55,340 --> 03:21:57,940 Anybody in the public would like to talk 3818 03:21:57,940 --> 03:22:00,940 about item D.5, park fees? 3819 03:22:05,940 --> 03:22:09,500 OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing 3820 03:22:09,500 --> 03:22:11,500 at 10:04:52. 3821 03:22:14,500 --> 03:22:16,900 And bring it back. 3822 03:22:19,860 --> 03:22:21,860 Council Member Halford. 3823 03:22:23,660 --> 03:22:25,580 Is there an escalator built in? 3824 03:22:25,580 --> 03:22:27,240 Yes, there's an annual escalator. 3825 03:22:27,240 --> 03:22:30,200 It's the Engineering News Record Construction Cost Index. 3826 03:22:30,200 --> 03:22:33,880 And it will be annually escalated on July 1st. 3827 03:22:33,880 --> 03:22:35,130 And it's good for eight years, I think, you said. 3828 03:22:35,130 --> 03:22:36,130 Yes, for eight years. 3829 03:22:36,130 --> 03:22:38,230 And then it will need to be updated. 3830 03:22:38,230 --> 03:22:40,230 Thank you. 3831 03:22:41,190 --> 03:22:43,590 When's the last time this was updated? 3832 03:22:43,590 --> 03:22:46,590 This was last updated in 2016. 3833 03:22:51,230 --> 03:22:53,230 Vice Mayor. 3834 03:22:53,550 --> 03:22:55,550 All right. 3835 03:22:55,750 --> 03:22:57,750 Council Member Morowit. 3836 03:23:01,240 --> 03:23:03,150 I'll make it fast. 3837 03:23:03,150 --> 03:23:06,970 2016, that's probably the reason it's such a large increase. 3838 03:23:06,970 --> 03:23:09,970 Went from 3.99 single family to 8.51. 3839 03:23:11,110 --> 03:23:14,710 That puts us at, what, 8, 10 years? 3840 03:23:15,190 --> 03:23:16,550 Yeah, it's been about 10 years. 3841 03:23:16,550 --> 03:23:17,610 It's almost 10 years. 3842 03:23:17,610 --> 03:23:20,670 So we've had a lot of increases in costs. 3843 03:23:20,670 --> 03:23:24,850 Not just the materials and in labor, I believe. 3844 03:23:24,850 --> 03:23:27,950 Yeah, and the annual escalations do not 3845 03:23:27,950 --> 03:23:31,550 keep up with that type of increase as well. 3846 03:23:31,550 --> 03:23:34,900 It tries to keep up with somewhat of an increase, 3847 03:23:34,900 --> 03:23:36,790 but the land acquisition cost, and as well 3848 03:23:36,790 --> 03:23:38,990 as the facilities cost, labor costs 3849 03:23:38,990 --> 03:23:42,290 has not kept up with that in the last 10 years. 3850 03:23:42,290 --> 03:23:44,750 Plus, as I mentioned, there's been additional changes 3851 03:23:44,750 --> 03:23:47,300 in terms of legislation and in terms of how 3852 03:23:47,300 --> 03:23:49,350 the fee needs to be calculated. 3853 03:23:49,350 --> 03:23:52,350 And so just ensuring that going to a per square foot and some 3854 03:23:52,350 --> 03:23:56,550 of those other changes, that's why you see that large increase. 3855 03:23:56,550 --> 03:23:58,690 So new development pays a portion of it. 3856 03:23:58,690 --> 03:24:01,810 And then of course, the existing pays a portion. 3857 03:24:01,810 --> 03:24:05,190 Yes, because we can only charge it for their fair share. 3858 03:24:05,190 --> 03:24:09,270 So it's a proportional amount of the total cost of the new parks 3859 03:24:09,270 --> 03:24:11,670 that are necessary at 2040. 3860 03:24:12,550 --> 03:24:15,950 And the Building Industry Association, also known as BIA, 3861 03:24:15,950 --> 03:24:17,710 was agreement with us? 3862 03:24:17,710 --> 03:24:19,550 Yeah, so we met with the BIA and we 3863 03:24:19,550 --> 03:24:23,190 did receive a letter of support in terms of this. 3864 03:24:23,190 --> 03:24:25,470 And so we met with the development community 3865 03:24:25,470 --> 03:24:29,510 and had good stakeholder outreach, as I mentioned. 3866 03:24:29,510 --> 03:24:30,700 Good, everybody's on board. 3867 03:24:30,700 --> 03:24:32,492 I think the most important thing about this 3868 03:24:32,492 --> 03:24:35,427 is that people are asking for better amenities, larger 3869 03:24:35,427 --> 03:24:37,760 parks like the one up north we're going to be working on 3870 03:24:37,760 --> 03:24:39,760 shortly, 60 acres. 3871 03:24:39,880 --> 03:24:42,880 So this is all going to play a part in that, 3872 03:24:42,880 --> 03:24:45,910 to build something nicer in certain communities 3873 03:24:45,910 --> 03:24:46,660 and neighborhoods. 3874 03:24:46,660 --> 03:24:52,120 But the developers always have the option of doing it in lieu, 3875 03:24:52,120 --> 03:24:54,800 building their own, or paying a fee. 3876 03:24:54,800 --> 03:24:58,300 Yes, they can either dedicate, build it themselves. 3877 03:24:58,300 --> 03:25:02,760 And dedicate it and do in lieu fee or pay the fee themselves. 3878 03:25:02,760 --> 03:25:05,760 So that seems to be depending on the builder 3879 03:25:05,760 --> 03:25:07,420 and how extravagant they want to go, 3880 03:25:07,420 --> 03:25:10,300 but it seems to work out well, so I appreciate it. 3881 03:25:10,300 --> 03:25:12,700 Thank you very much. 3882 03:25:14,720 --> 03:25:16,720 Council Member Breitenbucher. 3883 03:25:17,320 --> 03:25:19,320 Great job. 3884 03:25:20,120 --> 03:25:22,800 I think this is much needed. 3885 03:25:22,800 --> 03:25:23,560 Again, 10 years. 3886 03:25:23,560 --> 03:25:26,960 And on the new aquatics facility, 3887 03:25:26,960 --> 03:25:28,340 you have five acres down. 3888 03:25:28,340 --> 03:25:30,740 I'll double that to 10. 3889 03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:33,330 That's what they recommend for that size of area 3890 03:25:33,330 --> 03:25:36,330 with parking and all that. 3891 03:25:42,455 --> 03:25:44,855 Are you still coaching? 3892 03:25:47,370 --> 03:25:49,310 I'm glad we're finally here. 3893 03:25:49,310 --> 03:25:51,710 This is much needed. 3894 03:25:51,730 --> 03:25:55,290 Parks and recreation is so important to our city 3895 03:25:55,290 --> 03:25:59,770 for the longevity and also for our next generation. 3896 03:25:59,770 --> 03:26:02,630 We need to continue investing in that. 3897 03:26:02,630 --> 03:26:08,250 And I'm glad our partners that are helping pay these fees 3898 03:26:08,250 --> 03:26:10,330 are on board with it also. 3899 03:26:10,330 --> 03:26:15,650 And I know a lot of work went into this to make it happen. 3900 03:26:15,650 --> 03:26:17,770 And I'm also hoping, in the future, 3901 03:26:17,770 --> 03:26:21,530 we can work on these fees in a more timely manner 3902 03:26:21,530 --> 03:26:23,930 and not have to wait as long. 3903 03:26:23,930 --> 03:26:26,810 And I appreciate the escalator built 3904 03:26:26,810 --> 03:26:32,210 into because that'll keep us going with future expenses. 3905 03:26:35,370 --> 03:26:39,610 As we are continuing to bring more amenities into our parks, 3906 03:26:39,610 --> 03:26:42,890 I see more work to be done when it comes to our parks and rec 3907 03:26:42,890 --> 03:26:46,930 commission and ensuring they're bringing in what 3908 03:26:46,930 --> 03:26:49,250 the public actually wants. 3909 03:26:49,250 --> 03:26:51,190 And this will help us get to that point. 3910 03:26:51,190 --> 03:26:55,770 So thank you, and I'm glad this is here. 3911 03:26:55,770 --> 03:26:57,770 So with that-- 3912 03:26:57,890 --> 03:26:59,270 Can I add something real quick? 3913 03:26:59,270 --> 03:26:59,650 Sure. 3914 03:26:59,650 --> 03:27:00,150 Thank you. 3915 03:27:00,150 --> 03:27:02,130 I don't know, do you like parks and rec. 3916 03:27:02,130 --> 03:27:05,410 I just want to really take a moment 3917 03:27:05,410 --> 03:27:09,950 and thank Brad for all your time, Brandy, Michael, 3918 03:27:09,950 --> 03:27:11,490 the Megans. 3919 03:27:11,490 --> 03:27:15,510 This is no small task to get this to the finish line 3920 03:27:15,510 --> 03:27:17,850 and with a letter of support from the BIA 3921 03:27:17,850 --> 03:27:18,990 in this day and age. 3922 03:27:18,990 --> 03:27:20,470 So thank you all. 3923 03:27:20,470 --> 03:27:23,100 And just a real quick story. 3924 03:27:23,100 --> 03:27:25,130 I think it was in probably-- 3925 03:27:25,130 --> 03:27:27,530 I don't know, maybe 2014. 3926 03:27:29,240 --> 03:27:33,840 I remember at council meetings, for budget items, 3927 03:27:33,840 --> 03:27:35,460 you used to put these dots. 3928 03:27:35,460 --> 03:27:38,820 And I remember when we got the funding approved 3929 03:27:38,820 --> 03:27:42,860 to do the first ever master plan that was approved in '16. 3930 03:27:42,860 --> 03:27:46,740 And so, yes, this has taken us some time, but all of our fees 3931 03:27:46,740 --> 03:27:49,600 will soon be updated. 3932 03:27:49,600 --> 03:27:51,340 But I think that was instrumental 3933 03:27:51,340 --> 03:27:53,740 because we have some funding. 3934 03:27:53,740 --> 03:27:56,220 Obviously, development doesn't close all of the gaps 3935 03:27:56,220 --> 03:27:57,880 to get a project to the finish line. 3936 03:27:57,880 --> 03:27:59,900 There's much more involved in that. 3937 03:27:59,900 --> 03:28:02,587 But I think we have some opportunities coming up 3938 03:28:02,587 --> 03:28:04,420 that I'm going to be really excited to bring 3939 03:28:04,420 --> 03:28:08,620 before council on looking at some possibilities, 3940 03:28:09,280 --> 03:28:11,420 potentially with Measure Q, after we kick off 3941 03:28:11,420 --> 03:28:13,580 feeding the fire station 6. 3942 03:28:13,580 --> 03:28:15,380 And then some other funding sources 3943 03:28:15,380 --> 03:28:18,300 that we've been really creative at making sure 3944 03:28:18,300 --> 03:28:20,140 that we have to make sure that we're really 3945 03:28:20,140 --> 03:28:22,480 building this community to be the best community. 3946 03:28:22,480 --> 03:28:24,777 And so anyways, I was thinking about that story. 3947 03:28:24,777 --> 03:28:26,110 I remember you and Steve DeBrum. 3948 03:28:26,110 --> 03:28:29,150 And Steve DeBrum, he was like Toni, Toni. 3949 03:28:29,150 --> 03:28:30,450 And I was like, trust me. 3950 03:28:30,450 --> 03:28:33,210 You won't go wrong from this. 3951 03:28:33,210 --> 03:28:35,610 And at some point-- 3952 03:28:36,390 --> 03:28:38,773 I mean, I hope you all are a part 3953 03:28:38,773 --> 03:28:40,190 of that because I remember getting 3954 03:28:40,190 --> 03:28:42,230 those green and red dots. 3955 03:28:42,230 --> 03:28:43,410 And we're here. 3956 03:28:43,410 --> 03:28:44,500 We have a pot. 3957 03:28:44,500 --> 03:28:46,790 That's why the splash pad was possible. 3958 03:28:46,790 --> 03:28:50,190 And so, I mean, look, it took over a decade, 3959 03:28:50,190 --> 03:28:51,930 but things are happening. 3960 03:28:51,930 --> 03:28:53,990 And because of Measure Q, things are happening 3961 03:28:53,990 --> 03:28:55,842 at a much faster pace. 3962 03:28:55,842 --> 03:28:57,500 And so I'm grateful for that. 3963 03:28:57,500 --> 03:29:00,100 I'm grateful that I was there during that time frame. 3964 03:29:00,100 --> 03:29:03,650 And I'm also grateful that we have some ideas. 3965 03:29:03,650 --> 03:29:06,700 We just got a federal earmark for almost $1 million 3966 03:29:06,700 --> 03:29:10,430 from Congress Representative Harder for a community center 3967 03:29:10,430 --> 03:29:12,810 so that we can actually start the planning. 3968 03:29:12,810 --> 03:29:15,500 And now, we've got some good funding sources. 3969 03:29:15,500 --> 03:29:17,230 So it's really an exciting time. 3970 03:29:17,230 --> 03:29:19,190 And these are needs we already should 3971 03:29:19,190 --> 03:29:20,410 have had in our community. 3972 03:29:20,410 --> 03:29:23,110 So I'm looking forward to bringing that 3973 03:29:23,110 --> 03:29:24,890 to council in the future. 3974 03:29:24,890 --> 03:29:27,370 And thank you guys all for supporting this tonight. 3975 03:29:27,370 --> 03:29:30,900 I think that this is a really good move for our community. 3976 03:29:30,900 --> 03:29:32,190 And thank you again to the team. 3977 03:29:32,190 --> 03:29:34,230 Just to add on, I remember those dots. 3978 03:29:34,230 --> 03:29:36,150 And Toni was not the city manager. 3979 03:29:36,150 --> 03:29:38,690 And she was saying, put more dots on my projects, 3980 03:29:38,690 --> 03:29:39,290 put more dots. 3981 03:29:39,290 --> 03:29:40,410 And we said, we don't have any money. 3982 03:29:40,410 --> 03:29:41,810 We don't have any money yet. 3983 03:29:41,810 --> 03:29:44,130 But by putting the master plan together in '16, 3984 03:29:44,130 --> 03:29:46,430 you're right, That is how we were 3985 03:29:46,430 --> 03:29:49,570 able to do the things we're doing and start the process. 3986 03:29:49,570 --> 03:29:51,930 So at the time, we just didn't have the money. 3987 03:29:51,930 --> 03:29:54,388 But by building in fees into the development, 3988 03:29:54,388 --> 03:29:55,430 it made a big difference. 3989 03:29:55,430 --> 03:29:58,222 You know what else you approved funding for at that meeting? 3990 03:29:58,222 --> 03:30:00,930 You gave us money for the master plan, for the parks master plan, 3991 03:30:00,930 --> 03:30:04,350 and you gave us money for tax measure exploration. 3992 03:30:04,350 --> 03:30:08,170 So both have been beneficial to the city in many, many ways. 3993 03:30:08,170 --> 03:30:10,570 So anyways, good memory. 3994 03:30:11,430 --> 03:30:13,990 Yes, I remember those dots. 3995 03:30:13,990 --> 03:30:16,990 I had just got on. 3996 03:30:17,670 --> 03:30:20,787 She brought him over for parks and rec, too. 3997 03:30:20,787 --> 03:30:23,120 When we were doing this stuff for parks and rec and what 3998 03:30:23,120 --> 03:30:25,120 everybody wanted [INAUDIBLE]. 3999 03:30:26,840 --> 03:30:27,760 Yes, no. 4000 03:30:27,760 --> 03:30:29,180 Thank you for all the hard work. 4001 03:30:29,180 --> 03:30:30,580 And this is a great thing. 4002 03:30:30,580 --> 03:30:32,820 And this is a great job with this council, too, 4003 03:30:32,820 --> 03:30:36,520 because we've really worked hard to update a lot of fees 4004 03:30:36,520 --> 03:30:41,320 throughout everything and bring everything to modern times. 4005 03:30:41,600 --> 03:30:45,600 So with that, who's ready for this motion? 4006 03:30:45,600 --> 03:30:49,160 All right, we got a motion from Council Member Halford 4007 03:30:49,160 --> 03:30:52,720 and a second from Vice Mayor Lackey. 4008 03:30:52,720 --> 03:30:54,160 Here we go. 4009 03:30:54,160 --> 03:30:56,440 To adopt a resolution-- 4010 03:30:56,440 --> 03:31:01,000 adopt the August 2026 dedication and in lieu fee and park 4011 03:31:01,000 --> 03:31:03,240 acquisition and improvement fee nexus 4012 03:31:03,240 --> 03:31:07,000 study, to adopt the park acquisition and improvement fee 4013 03:31:07,000 --> 03:31:11,200 project list pursuant to Government Code section 66016.5 4014 03:31:13,280 --> 03:31:18,800 and 66002, adopt updated park dedication and in lieu 4015 03:31:18,480 --> 03:31:20,680 fees and park acquisition and improvement 4016 03:31:20,680 --> 03:31:23,770 fees, direct staff to implement the updated 4017 03:31:23,770 --> 03:31:26,170 fees effective January 1, 2027, including 4018 03:31:27,490 --> 03:31:29,890 the phased implementation schedule, 4019 03:31:29,890 --> 03:31:34,700 waive the first reading by substitution of the title, 4020 03:31:34,700 --> 03:31:35,930 and introduce an ordinance of the City 4021 03:31:35,930 --> 03:31:39,370 Council of the City of Manteca, State of California, 4022 03:31:39,370 --> 03:31:43,650 repealing and replacing chapter 3.20 of the Manteca Municipal 4023 03:31:43,650 --> 03:31:47,970 Code entitled park acquisition and improvement fees and adding 4024 03:31:47,970 --> 03:31:52,100 chapter 3.21 of the Manteca Municipal Code entitled park 4025 03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:54,300 dedications and in lieu fees. 4026 03:31:54,300 --> 03:31:55,130 All in favor say aye. 4027 03:31:55,130 --> 03:31:56,130 Aye. 4028 03:31:56,130 --> 03:31:57,100 Opposed? 4029 03:31:57,100 --> 03:31:59,100 Motion carries 5-0. 4030 03:31:59,250 --> 03:32:00,500 Thank you. 4031 03:32:00,500 --> 03:32:02,500 Congratulations. 4032 03:32:02,730 --> 03:32:04,450 D.6. 4033 03:32:04,450 --> 03:32:08,330 Conduct a public hearing for the Chamberlain Annexation Project 4034 03:32:08,330 --> 03:32:11,970 and by motion find the project exempt from further 4035 03:32:11,970 --> 03:32:16,770 environmental review pursuant to Section 15319 of the California 4036 03:32:17,570 --> 03:32:19,890 Environmental Quality Act guidelines, 4037 03:32:19,890 --> 03:32:23,530 adopt a resolution approving annexation and authorize staff 4038 03:32:23,530 --> 03:32:28,290 to submit an application to the San Joaquin County Local Agency 4039 03:32:28,290 --> 03:32:31,890 Formation Commission to initiate annexation proceedings 4040 03:32:33,100 --> 03:32:38,410 for the Chamberlain Annexation parcels APN 218-020-08, -14, 4041 03:32:41,690 --> 03:32:47,900 -17, -18, -19, -24, and 25, and waive the first reading 4042 03:32:48,810 --> 03:32:51,730 by substitution of the title and introduce an ordinance 4043 03:32:51,730 --> 03:32:55,410 of the City of Manteca, State of California, 4044 03:32:55,410 --> 03:33:00,210 amending the zoning map set forth in Section 17.20.040 4045 03:33:01,490 --> 03:33:06,410 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca Municipal Code 4046 03:33:06,410 --> 03:33:10,100 by assigning APN 218-020-14, -17, 4047 03:33:12,490 --> 03:33:16,490 and -25 with a general commercial free zone 4048 03:33:16,490 --> 03:33:18,900 designation. 4049 03:33:18,900 --> 03:33:20,540 Mayor and council, tonight we have deputy director 4050 03:33:20,540 --> 03:33:24,140 of development services planning, Jesus Orozco. 4051 03:33:24,933 --> 03:33:27,100 Good evening, Mayor, council, members of the public, 4052 03:33:27,100 --> 03:33:28,340 and staff. 4053 03:33:28,340 --> 03:33:30,520 Someone teased me earlier about being last. 4054 03:33:30,520 --> 03:33:33,340 But this would be the perfect way 4055 03:33:33,340 --> 03:33:36,480 to celebrate my two years with the City of Manteca today. 4056 03:33:36,480 --> 03:33:38,480 Yeah, all right. 4057 03:33:39,140 --> 03:33:42,380 Two years, plus a day if you don't move faster. 4058 03:33:42,380 --> 03:33:44,780 A couple of minutes. 4059 03:33:49,600 --> 03:33:54,460 So before you is a annexation and a prezoning 4060 03:33:54,460 --> 03:33:56,860 for the Chamberlain project. 4061 03:33:57,780 --> 03:33:59,620 Some quick details on the project. 4062 03:33:59,620 --> 03:34:02,300 This is a city initiated annexation. 4063 03:34:02,300 --> 03:34:05,300 It entails approximately seven parcels, three of which 4064 03:34:05,300 --> 03:34:07,700 are developable commercial parcels. 4065 03:34:08,000 --> 03:34:14,000 The other four are encumbered as Caltrans right away parcels. 4066 03:34:14,700 --> 03:34:18,300 The overall annexation area includes approximately 17.4 4067 03:34:19,180 --> 03:34:20,260 acres. 4068 03:34:20,260 --> 03:34:25,220 And the general area is located on the Southern portion 4069 03:34:25,220 --> 03:34:29,543 of Lathrop Road and east of Inheritance Way and on-- 4070 03:34:29,543 --> 03:34:31,460 I'm sorry, the western side of Inheritance Way 4071 03:34:31,460 --> 03:34:35,980 and on the eastern side of State Route 99, going northbound. 4072 03:34:35,980 --> 03:34:38,780 I do want to note that there is no development associated 4073 03:34:38,780 --> 03:34:40,780 with this project. 4074 03:34:43,340 --> 03:34:46,500 Some key facts about the project. 4075 03:34:46,500 --> 03:34:49,600 So right now, to the north of the project, 4076 03:34:49,600 --> 03:34:52,260 there is undeveloped commercial land. 4077 03:34:52,260 --> 03:34:55,220 On the eastern side, there's primarily rural residential 4078 03:34:55,220 --> 03:34:58,540 with some agricultural land as well. 4079 03:34:58,540 --> 03:35:04,620 And to the west and south is either State Highway 99 land 4080 03:35:04,620 --> 03:35:07,620 or unimproved public right of way. 4081 03:35:07,620 --> 03:35:11,140 On your screen, you'll also note that the highlighted are 4082 03:35:11,140 --> 03:35:14,740 the three parcels developable private parcels 4083 03:35:14,860 --> 03:35:17,260 within the annexation area. 4084 03:35:20,110 --> 03:35:21,750 The purpose behind this annexation 4085 03:35:21,750 --> 03:35:24,590 is really to streamline potential future development 4086 03:35:24,590 --> 03:35:26,350 to the north and to the east, as there 4087 03:35:26,350 --> 03:35:28,483 have been several inquiries. 4088 03:35:28,483 --> 03:35:30,150 But I do want to note, again, that there 4089 03:35:30,150 --> 03:35:32,950 is no development at this time. 4090 03:35:32,950 --> 03:35:38,950 This annexation would square off and provide for contiguous city 4091 03:35:38,950 --> 03:35:44,950 boundaries, as there are some odd or the existing city 4092 03:35:46,510 --> 03:35:48,330 boundaries are somewhat irregular 4093 03:35:48,330 --> 03:35:52,790 and this would allow for future development in a more 4094 03:35:52,790 --> 03:35:54,790 streamlined fashion. 4095 03:35:55,190 --> 03:36:00,870 I do want to note that the existing private commercial 4096 03:36:00,870 --> 03:36:03,910 sites are within this area are developed. 4097 03:36:03,910 --> 03:36:06,430 They will remain as existing nonconforming 4098 03:36:06,430 --> 03:36:10,330 until they decide to either expand, change in use, 4099 03:36:10,330 --> 03:36:13,930 or do other on site improvements. 4100 03:36:13,950 --> 03:36:17,920 So as long as they continue their uses as currently 4101 03:36:17,920 --> 03:36:22,200 in place, they would not be subject to the city 4102 03:36:22,200 --> 03:36:24,200 zoning standards. 4103 03:36:24,600 --> 03:36:26,600 That being said, those sites would 4104 03:36:26,600 --> 03:36:30,280 be prezoned with a general commercial zoning designation 4105 03:36:30,280 --> 03:36:33,280 upon completion of the annexation. 4106 03:36:35,600 --> 03:36:38,640 Since this project does not entail any development 4107 03:36:38,640 --> 03:36:42,840 and there are existing utilities within proximity 4108 03:36:44,800 --> 03:36:47,520 and there is no intensification of zoning, 4109 03:36:47,520 --> 03:36:49,360 the California Environmental Quality Act 4110 03:36:49,360 --> 03:36:52,940 does allow for an exemption for annexations of these nature. 4111 03:36:52,940 --> 03:36:56,520 Therefore, staff has prepared a notice of exemption 4112 03:36:56,520 --> 03:37:00,720 consistent with section 15319 of the CEQA guidelines. 4113 03:37:01,400 --> 03:37:03,400 And the project was also duly noticed 4114 03:37:03,400 --> 03:37:07,440 and no less than 20 days in the Manteca Bulletin 4115 03:37:07,440 --> 03:37:09,800 prior to this hearing. 4116 03:37:09,800 --> 03:37:11,880 That being said, staff is requesting 4117 03:37:11,880 --> 03:37:14,520 that the council consider finding the project exempt 4118 03:37:14,520 --> 03:37:17,680 from further CEQA, adopt a resolution authorizing 4119 03:37:17,680 --> 03:37:21,800 staff to submit an application to San Joaquin County Local 4120 03:37:21,800 --> 03:37:24,360 Agency Formation Commission, and introduce an ordinance 4121 03:37:24,360 --> 03:37:29,560 to prezone three other parcels within the annexation boundary. 4122 03:37:29,560 --> 03:37:30,940 That completes my presentation. 4123 03:37:30,940 --> 03:37:34,800 I'll be happy to answer any questions. 4124 03:37:34,800 --> 03:37:38,400 All right, any questions from council? 4125 03:37:40,120 --> 03:37:45,320 All right, we'll open up the public hearing at 10:20. 4126 03:37:45,320 --> 03:37:47,320 Zoom. 4127 03:37:55,200 --> 03:37:58,960 I do have an attendee, but no hand. 4128 03:37:58,960 --> 03:38:06,160 OK, anybody in the public would like to speak on item D.6? 4129 03:38:10,720 --> 03:38:12,850 Good evening, Mayor Singh, Council. 4130 03:38:12,850 --> 03:38:13,990 My name is Dave Bramell. 4131 03:38:13,990 --> 03:38:18,930 I'm the fire chief of the Lathrop Manteca Fire District, 4132 03:38:18,930 --> 03:38:22,100 which is subsequently the district that 4133 03:38:22,100 --> 03:38:24,570 is most frequently impacted through annexation 4134 03:38:24,570 --> 03:38:26,530 and detachment. 4135 03:38:26,530 --> 03:38:31,610 Other people know me as Chief Isla's less handsome peer 4136 03:38:31,610 --> 03:38:33,610 to the West. 4137 03:38:34,185 --> 03:38:35,310 It's a pleasure to be here. 4138 03:38:35,310 --> 03:38:37,790 I've been a resident of Manteca for 49 years. 4139 03:38:37,790 --> 03:38:41,390 My family moved here in 1977, so I'm very familiar with the area, 4140 03:38:41,390 --> 03:38:43,210 but I've only been the fire chief next door 4141 03:38:43,210 --> 03:38:45,970 for about the last four years. 4142 03:38:45,970 --> 03:38:50,450 And in that time, we've been noticed north of 16 4143 03:38:50,450 --> 03:38:52,690 plus annexation applications have come through 4144 03:38:52,690 --> 03:38:55,210 or requests for mitigation agreements. 4145 03:38:55,210 --> 03:38:57,670 And so it happens to-- as you're well aware, 4146 03:38:57,670 --> 03:39:02,170 it happens well to the north, to the south, to the east, 4147 03:39:02,170 --> 03:39:06,970 and then to the extent possible, toward the west a bit, too. 4148 03:39:06,970 --> 03:39:09,130 So my goal in coming here tonight 4149 03:39:09,130 --> 03:39:11,460 is to talk a little bit about this specific annexation 4150 03:39:11,460 --> 03:39:14,337 and as it relates, perhaps, to the process of annexation 4151 03:39:14,337 --> 03:39:14,920 with the city. 4152 03:39:14,920 --> 03:39:17,600 The city has been very good with us 4153 03:39:17,600 --> 03:39:21,292 about providing notice and getting us on distribution lists 4154 03:39:21,292 --> 03:39:23,500 so that we can see and have an opportunity to comment 4155 03:39:23,500 --> 03:39:25,500 on projects frequently. 4156 03:39:25,860 --> 03:39:28,820 This annexation, I know, is a annexation 4157 03:39:28,820 --> 03:39:32,140 that's been initiated by the city, where the majority of them 4158 03:39:32,140 --> 03:39:34,840 are usually not in that frame. 4159 03:39:34,840 --> 03:39:38,240 So we're often contacted by a developer who reaches out. 4160 03:39:38,240 --> 03:39:42,100 Sometimes we're noticed about a project maybe a year prior. 4161 03:39:42,100 --> 03:39:44,865 We provide comment to that initial distribution. 4162 03:39:44,865 --> 03:39:46,240 And we might not hear for a year. 4163 03:39:46,240 --> 03:39:47,840 And then a developer contacts me and says, 4164 03:39:47,840 --> 03:39:49,632 I hear you're the guy that we do this with. 4165 03:39:49,632 --> 03:39:52,440 And it's usually because there's a pending LAFCO meeting. 4166 03:39:52,440 --> 03:39:55,340 And they know they have to mitigate the impact to the fire 4167 03:39:55,340 --> 03:39:56,000 district. 4168 03:39:56,000 --> 03:39:59,540 And as you're aware, that is required 4169 03:39:59,540 --> 03:40:01,940 via current LAFCO policy. 4170 03:40:02,242 --> 03:40:03,700 The challenge for the fire district 4171 03:40:03,700 --> 03:40:06,260 is that it usually keeps the fire district whole 4172 03:40:06,260 --> 03:40:11,380 from the aspect of the current value from the parcels that 4173 03:40:11,380 --> 03:40:11,900 are-- 4174 03:40:11,900 --> 03:40:13,500 often, it's a single parcel or maybe 4175 03:40:13,500 --> 03:40:15,450 it's three or four parcels with only one 4176 03:40:15,450 --> 03:40:16,640 or two improvements on it. 4177 03:40:16,640 --> 03:40:18,280 And so by itself is not that much. 4178 03:40:18,280 --> 03:40:23,140 And so that impact, we typically negotiate over a 15 year 4179 03:40:23,140 --> 03:40:26,180 agreement with an escalator that assumes a certain percentage 4180 03:40:26,180 --> 03:40:27,400 of property tax increase. 4181 03:40:27,400 --> 03:40:28,960 And we call it good. 4182 03:40:28,960 --> 03:40:32,940 But depending on the parcel, that could be a developer writes 4183 03:40:32,940 --> 03:40:36,780 us a check for $38,000 and looks around their pockets for loose 4184 03:40:36,780 --> 03:40:39,780 change and satisfies this requirement. 4185 03:40:40,000 --> 03:40:41,000 Project moves on. 4186 03:40:41,000 --> 03:40:41,920 Detachment occurs. 4187 03:40:41,920 --> 03:40:43,980 And in perpetuity, the fire district 4188 03:40:43,980 --> 03:40:45,800 will never have that revenue again. 4189 03:40:45,800 --> 03:40:47,420 So it's one time monies. 4190 03:40:47,420 --> 03:40:49,740 And the city is negotiating and the developers 4191 03:40:49,740 --> 03:40:52,720 are negotiating in good faith with us to do that. 4192 03:40:52,720 --> 03:40:54,220 But the reason I bring it up tonight 4193 03:40:54,220 --> 03:40:56,553 is the Chamberlain Annexation is one that we haven't yet 4194 03:40:56,553 --> 03:40:57,720 had the opportunity to meet. 4195 03:40:57,720 --> 03:40:59,000 And the city has reached out. 4196 03:40:59,000 --> 03:41:01,260 I returned some of that as well. 4197 03:41:01,260 --> 03:41:03,340 And we just haven't been able to connect. 4198 03:41:03,340 --> 03:41:04,940 I know and I see in the documentation 4199 03:41:04,940 --> 03:41:08,300 the attachments tonight that that is certainly something 4200 03:41:08,300 --> 03:41:12,830 that both parties endeavor to do and accomplish. 4201 03:41:13,630 --> 03:41:17,300 May I have just a little more time? 4202 03:41:17,300 --> 03:41:19,300 And so I know that we're going to do that. 4203 03:41:19,300 --> 03:41:21,750 And I'm not here to tell you that we're 4204 03:41:21,750 --> 03:41:25,812 going to thwart that or be an obstacle to such. 4205 03:41:25,812 --> 03:41:28,270 But I just would share that the sheer volume of annexations 4206 03:41:28,270 --> 03:41:30,670 that come through is-- 4207 03:41:32,430 --> 03:41:34,330 it's exhausting, actually, in a lot of ways. 4208 03:41:34,330 --> 03:41:39,110 But the district is looking to more closely look 4209 03:41:39,110 --> 03:41:41,110 at these projects as they come through. 4210 03:41:41,110 --> 03:41:44,950 We're working on developing a mitigation program so that it 4211 03:41:44,950 --> 03:41:47,750 can expedite these processes and make it clear 4212 03:41:47,750 --> 03:41:49,470 as we move forward. 4213 03:41:49,470 --> 03:41:51,330 We're interested in arrangements, 4214 03:41:51,330 --> 03:41:52,790 such as tax sharing agreements that 4215 03:41:52,790 --> 03:41:56,350 might be untraditional from just simply paying us a lump sum 4216 03:41:56,350 --> 03:41:59,250 to make us go away, for lack of a better term. 4217 03:41:59,250 --> 03:42:00,750 So we're going to be looking at that 4218 03:42:00,750 --> 03:42:03,700 a little closer because this in itself 4219 03:42:03,700 --> 03:42:05,785 is not a significant impact. 4220 03:42:05,785 --> 03:42:07,660 But there's discussion, as you're well aware, 4221 03:42:07,660 --> 03:42:09,785 in this community, about a couple other big project 4222 03:42:09,785 --> 03:42:12,540 areas of already established developed communities 4223 03:42:12,540 --> 03:42:14,900 that would be a very significant impact. 4224 03:42:14,900 --> 03:42:16,620 And so I want to get in front of it. 4225 03:42:16,620 --> 03:42:20,400 And I just want to make the staff and council aware 4226 03:42:20,400 --> 03:42:23,957 that we are looking a lot closer at this 4227 03:42:23,957 --> 03:42:26,400 and making sure that the district-- because that's 4228 03:42:26,400 --> 03:42:28,400 my charge, is to advocate for my district 4229 03:42:28,400 --> 03:42:30,740 and make sure that funding sources are there. 4230 03:42:30,740 --> 03:42:33,600 Because although, I understand fully 4231 03:42:33,600 --> 03:42:35,840 the city's right to develop, I understand 4232 03:42:35,840 --> 03:42:38,180 the concepts of general plans and sphere of influence, 4233 03:42:38,180 --> 03:42:41,210 and I know how all of that works. 4234 03:42:41,210 --> 03:42:42,460 And the city is going to grow. 4235 03:42:42,460 --> 03:42:44,252 But the district still has a responsibility 4236 03:42:44,252 --> 03:42:46,340 to serve areas that are outside of your sphere 4237 03:42:46,340 --> 03:42:50,400 that are impacted by these areas that you plan to develop in. 4238 03:42:50,400 --> 03:42:52,960 And so we just have to monitor that, and partner, 4239 03:42:52,960 --> 03:42:54,600 and work with the city to make sure 4240 03:42:54,600 --> 03:42:56,880 that it's best for all parties. 4241 03:42:56,880 --> 03:43:00,100 And then lastly, I'll just say, in your documentation, 4242 03:43:00,100 --> 03:43:05,500 the CEQA analysis talks about the fire station being 4243 03:43:05,840 --> 03:43:08,180 the current station 33 being 2 miles away 4244 03:43:08,180 --> 03:43:11,760 and the city 244 being a mile and a half. 4245 03:43:11,760 --> 03:43:14,400 Pick a center parcel in the business that's there. 4246 03:43:14,400 --> 03:43:14,540 Measure it. 4247 03:43:14,540 --> 03:43:15,860 It's exactly the same. 4248 03:43:15,860 --> 03:43:18,600 There are about 1.5, 1.6 miles apart. 4249 03:43:18,600 --> 03:43:23,720 Also, it talks about a 1,200 feet away for a water supply. 4250 03:43:23,720 --> 03:43:26,400 That is not really consistent with the municipal level 4251 03:43:26,400 --> 03:43:27,377 of water supply. 4252 03:43:27,377 --> 03:43:28,960 It is in a rural setting, technically, 4253 03:43:28,960 --> 03:43:32,200 or unincorporated areas, but not so much in a municipal setting. 4254 03:43:32,200 --> 03:43:34,820 So in any case, thank you for the extended time. 4255 03:43:34,820 --> 03:43:36,280 I appreciate it. 4256 03:43:36,280 --> 03:43:38,660 And I just wanted to provide those comments. 4257 03:43:38,660 --> 03:43:39,320 Thank you. 4258 03:43:39,320 --> 03:43:41,320 Thank you. 4259 03:43:42,320 --> 03:43:44,320 Anybody else? 4260 03:43:47,760 --> 03:43:53,760 OK, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing at 10:26 4261 03:43:57,400 --> 03:44:01,600 and bring it back for council discussion. 4262 03:44:06,170 --> 03:44:09,762 Some of the points that were raised 4263 03:44:09,762 --> 03:44:12,762 has there been discussion regarding? 4264 03:44:15,490 --> 03:44:17,890 One more time, Mayor. 4265 03:44:23,770 --> 03:44:24,470 Oh, sorry. 4266 03:44:24,470 --> 03:44:26,630 OK, I said, some of the points that were raised, 4267 03:44:26,630 --> 03:44:30,730 has there been any discussion regarding the fire district? 4268 03:44:30,730 --> 03:44:33,150 Yes, if I may just briefly, I do apologize. 4269 03:44:33,150 --> 03:44:37,700 I did not speak on the detachment agreement. 4270 03:44:37,700 --> 03:44:38,650 Staff is working and will continue 4271 03:44:38,650 --> 03:44:41,970 to work with the fire district to come to a consensus 4272 03:44:41,970 --> 03:44:44,170 and agreement on a tax sharing agreement 4273 03:44:44,170 --> 03:44:50,500 as it relates to those specific parcels within the annexation 4274 03:44:50,500 --> 03:44:52,610 area, which would be a requirement as part 4275 03:44:52,610 --> 03:44:55,850 of the annexation application to LAFCO. 4276 03:44:55,850 --> 03:44:59,890 With regards to the proximity of the fire station, 4277 03:44:59,890 --> 03:45:02,780 I believe City of Manteca is fire station 4 4278 03:45:02,780 --> 03:45:08,180 is slightly closer to than the district's fire station 33. 4279 03:45:09,400 --> 03:45:10,540 There might have been some oversight 4280 03:45:10,540 --> 03:45:14,700 on the exact distances, but they're generally close. 4281 03:45:14,700 --> 03:45:18,700 Manteca being the closest for the most part. 4282 03:45:18,700 --> 03:45:23,340 As far as the CEQA, again, since there's no actual development, 4283 03:45:23,340 --> 03:45:26,260 the standard utility service plan 4284 03:45:26,260 --> 03:45:28,220 that goes associated with this project 4285 03:45:28,220 --> 03:45:30,220 would not be as detailed as we would normally 4286 03:45:30,220 --> 03:45:33,340 see with projects that do have development associated 4287 03:45:33,340 --> 03:45:34,540 with them. 4288 03:45:34,540 --> 03:45:37,380 Currently, this is in the county and so it's 4289 03:45:37,380 --> 03:45:40,380 on well and septic, correct? 4290 03:45:41,600 --> 03:45:41,860 Correct. 4291 03:45:41,860 --> 03:45:44,820 They're staying that way until there's development? 4292 03:45:44,820 --> 03:45:46,820 That is correct. 4293 03:45:47,780 --> 03:45:51,440 There's a water supply, you said, nearby? 4294 03:45:51,440 --> 03:45:54,400 Well the water supply would be required upon development. 4295 03:45:54,400 --> 03:45:57,680 And again, there's only three parcels. 4296 03:45:57,680 --> 03:45:59,940 So they would have to pull something closer. 4297 03:45:59,940 --> 03:46:01,940 That is correct. 4298 03:46:02,240 --> 03:46:03,740 But to your point, Mayor, yes, there 4299 03:46:03,740 --> 03:46:07,580 is a water supply that was extended east of 99 4300 03:46:07,580 --> 03:46:13,580 along Lathrop Road that they would be able to connect. 4301 03:46:16,420 --> 03:46:18,420 Charlie. 4302 03:46:23,180 --> 03:46:27,300 I just want to thank Chief Bramell for coming out tonight. 4303 03:46:27,300 --> 03:46:29,600 Somewhere out there, there's a picture 4304 03:46:29,600 --> 03:46:34,600 of himself, and Division Chief Boris, and I on a grass fire, 4305 03:46:34,600 --> 03:46:38,900 mopping up on 120 way back when you guys were 4306 03:46:38,900 --> 03:46:40,000 starting as reserves. 4307 03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:44,660 So it's good to see that you're taking care of Lathrop 4308 03:46:44,660 --> 03:46:48,300 and watching out for their concerns and appreciate it. 4309 03:46:48,300 --> 03:46:50,300 So thank you. 4310 03:46:53,940 --> 03:46:56,400 Just briefly, I served on LAFCO, so I 4311 03:46:56,400 --> 03:46:58,600 know this is always a concern of your predecessor, 4312 03:46:58,600 --> 03:47:01,830 although you've done a much nicer job of presenting it today 4313 03:47:01,830 --> 03:47:06,190 in front of us than he may have done a few years ago. 4314 03:47:06,190 --> 03:47:08,230 That being said, though, I'm hopeful 4315 03:47:08,230 --> 03:47:10,790 and I'm sure you'll reach out to us. 4316 03:47:10,790 --> 03:47:13,850 Work on something, an appropriate detachment. 4317 03:47:13,850 --> 03:47:14,850 It is important. 4318 03:47:14,850 --> 03:47:17,250 Unfortunately, the Lathrop [INAUDIBLE], 4319 03:47:18,630 --> 03:47:20,570 that is the issue with LAFCO. 4320 03:47:20,570 --> 03:47:23,550 I mean, as we go farther north and we go east, 4321 03:47:23,550 --> 03:47:26,730 that is a real issue for their district. 4322 03:47:26,730 --> 03:47:29,350 So like I say, working with the developer's 4323 03:47:29,350 --> 03:47:31,830 always probably even a little better. 4324 03:47:31,830 --> 03:47:36,630 But I think with the city, I'm sure we'll do a fair exchange 4325 03:47:36,630 --> 03:47:37,930 and work with you. 4326 03:47:37,930 --> 03:47:40,490 And I'm sure you can reach out to us if there is a problem. 4327 03:47:40,490 --> 03:47:41,890 So I'm hopeful. 4328 03:47:41,890 --> 03:47:48,300 But thank you for your pleasant approach to the council tonight. 4329 03:47:48,300 --> 03:47:49,750 Thank you. 4330 03:47:49,750 --> 03:47:52,950 Yeah, thank you, Chief, for coming and also hanging out with 4331 03:47:52,950 --> 03:47:56,750 us all the way until 10:30 at night. 4332 03:47:56,750 --> 03:47:59,580 But yes, I think whatever we need to do, 4333 03:47:59,580 --> 03:48:01,280 we will make it right with the city 4334 03:48:01,280 --> 03:48:05,320 and make sure everything is moving forward. 4335 03:48:05,320 --> 03:48:08,920 With that, I entertain a motion. 4336 03:48:09,640 --> 03:48:11,640 So moved. 4337 03:48:13,400 --> 03:48:17,920 This time, it's Council Member Breitenbucher and a second from 4338 03:48:17,920 --> 03:48:21,200 Council Member Halford to adopt a resolution approving 4339 03:48:21,200 --> 03:48:24,400 annexation and authorize staff to submit an application 4340 03:48:24,400 --> 03:48:27,400 to the San Joaquin County Local Agency Formation Commission 4341 03:48:27,400 --> 03:48:30,520 to initiate annexation proceedings for the Chamberlain 4342 03:48:30,520 --> 03:48:35,920 Annexation. parcels APN 218-020-14, -17, -18, -19, -24, 4343 03:48:37,480 --> 03:48:42,560 and -25, and waive the first reading by substitution of title 4344 03:48:42,560 --> 03:48:44,980 and introduce an ordinance of the City of Manteca, 4345 03:48:44,980 --> 03:48:48,520 State of California, amending the zoning map set forth 4346 03:48:48,520 --> 03:48:53,920 in Section 17.20.040 of chapter 17.20 of Title 17 of the Manteca 4347 03:48:57,400 --> 03:49:02,200 Municipal Code by assigning APN 218-020-14, -17, 4348 03:49:04,600 --> 03:49:07,800 and -25 with a general commercial free zone 4349 03:49:07,800 --> 03:49:09,640 designation. 4350 03:49:09,640 --> 03:49:11,160 All in favor, say aye. 4351 03:49:11,160 --> 03:49:12,680 Aye. 4352 03:49:12,680 --> 03:49:14,400 Opposed? 4353 03:49:14,400 --> 03:49:16,400 Motion carries 5-0. 4354 03:49:18,160 --> 03:49:21,760 I need a five minute break. 4355 03:49:25,180 --> 03:49:27,180 Sorry. 4356 03:49:28,200 --> 03:49:30,600 All right, we're back. 4357 03:49:30,880 --> 03:49:31,780 We're almost there. 4358 03:49:31,780 --> 03:49:33,780 All right, that brings us to item E.1, 4359 03:49:33,780 --> 03:49:37,800 establish a city council ad hoc 2 by 2 Veterans Memorial 4360 03:49:37,800 --> 03:49:39,280 Committee and appoint two council members 4361 03:49:39,280 --> 03:49:40,920 to serve on the committee. 4362 03:49:40,920 --> 03:49:42,580 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 4363 03:49:42,580 --> 03:49:45,160 Tonight's staff is seeking city council's appointment 4364 03:49:45,160 --> 03:49:49,660 of two council members to serve on an ad hoc, 2 by 2 committee, 4365 03:49:49,660 --> 03:49:53,860 working with staff on a Veterans Memorial. 4366 03:49:54,640 --> 03:49:55,640 That's it? 4367 03:49:55,640 --> 03:49:56,930 That's it. 4368 03:49:56,930 --> 03:49:59,930 It's up to you now. 4369 03:50:00,500 --> 03:50:08,450 All right, I feel like I'm in the war zone here in the middle. 4370 03:50:09,890 --> 03:50:13,900 I guess I'll go to public comments. 4371 03:50:13,900 --> 03:50:15,900 Anybody on Zoom? 4372 03:50:18,330 --> 03:50:21,610 I do have one attendee with no hand raised. 4373 03:50:21,610 --> 03:50:23,730 All right, any comment cards? 4374 03:50:23,730 --> 03:50:25,650 No comment cards. 4375 03:50:25,650 --> 03:50:28,500 I'll be instructing people. 4376 03:50:28,900 --> 03:50:34,690 Anybody in the public would like to speak on this item? 4377 03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:54,900 Forming this ad hoc is a great thing for us. 4378 03:50:54,900 --> 03:50:58,500 I think for veterans, it will help 4379 03:50:58,500 --> 03:51:01,300 get you all out in the community and understand 4380 03:51:01,300 --> 03:51:06,420 the veterans needs and what you can do as a community 4381 03:51:06,420 --> 03:51:07,940 to help the veterans. 4382 03:51:07,940 --> 03:51:12,340 So thank you very much for considering this. 4383 03:51:12,340 --> 03:51:15,227 And I look forward to all the great things 4384 03:51:15,227 --> 03:51:16,560 that you're going to do with us. 4385 03:51:16,560 --> 03:51:18,560 Thank you. 4386 03:51:18,940 --> 03:51:21,340 Thanks for the help. 4387 03:51:24,660 --> 03:51:26,580 Wow. 4388 03:51:26,580 --> 03:51:28,580 All right. 4389 03:51:29,740 --> 03:51:31,740 Anybody else? 4390 03:51:34,540 --> 03:51:37,900 Seeing none, we'll go ahead and bring it back 4391 03:51:37,900 --> 03:51:38,940 to council discussion. 4392 03:51:38,940 --> 03:51:41,230 I don't know, do we need council discussion or can 4393 03:51:41,230 --> 03:51:42,620 I just make a motion? 4394 03:51:42,620 --> 03:51:47,300 All right, I flipped a coin earlier just to let you know. 4395 03:51:47,300 --> 03:51:48,100 All right. 4396 03:51:48,100 --> 03:51:51,760 I would like to make a motion to establish a city council ad hoc 4397 03:51:51,760 --> 03:51:53,860 2 by 2 Veterans Memorial Committee 4398 03:51:53,860 --> 03:51:58,660 and appoint Council Member Dave Breitenbucher and me to serve 4399 03:51:58,660 --> 03:52:00,660 on the committee. 4400 03:52:00,940 --> 03:52:03,340 That's what I got. 4401 03:52:04,620 --> 03:52:08,820 Do I have a second on that? 4402 03:52:08,860 --> 03:52:10,860 Anybody? 4403 03:52:13,420 --> 03:52:15,820 I heard a second. 4404 03:52:16,500 --> 03:52:21,140 So I have a motion and a second. 4405 03:52:21,140 --> 03:52:22,820 All in favor, say aye. 4406 03:52:22,820 --> 03:52:24,320 Aye. 4407 03:52:24,320 --> 03:52:26,320 Opposed? 4408 03:52:29,180 --> 03:52:31,180 Abstain? 4409 03:52:32,260 --> 03:52:38,260 All right, I got 4-0, 1 All right, moving to E.2. 4410 03:52:46,452 --> 03:52:49,860 E.2, establish the city council ad hoc solid waste committee 4411 03:52:49,860 --> 03:52:53,470 and appoint two council members to serve on the committee. 4412 03:52:53,470 --> 03:52:54,970 Good evening, Mayor and council. 4413 03:52:54,970 --> 03:52:57,630 Tonight's staff is seeking city council's appointment 4414 03:52:57,630 --> 03:53:01,350 of two council members to serve on an ad hoc, 2 by 2 committee 4415 03:53:01,350 --> 03:53:07,190 to work with staff on solid waste and disposal options. 4416 03:53:07,190 --> 03:53:11,390 All right, let's go to public comments. 4417 03:53:12,300 --> 03:53:13,990 Jeff. 4418 03:53:13,990 --> 03:53:17,590 Jeff, you want to tell us-- 4419 03:53:17,790 --> 03:53:19,790 you got nothing? 4420 03:53:20,300 --> 03:53:22,300 Anybody on Zoom? 4421 03:53:24,270 --> 03:53:26,950 I do have some attendees with no hand raised. 4422 03:53:26,950 --> 03:53:30,430 OK, anybody in the public would like to speak on the 2 4423 03:53:30,430 --> 03:53:32,830 by 2 solid waste committee? 4424 03:53:37,110 --> 03:53:40,670 Seeing none, we'll go ahead and bring it back. 4425 03:53:40,670 --> 03:53:42,990 You guys want to discuss this one? 4426 03:53:42,990 --> 03:53:46,590 Anybody, eager to jump on board? 4427 03:53:49,750 --> 03:53:51,750 Bada-boom. 4428 03:53:53,590 --> 03:53:57,910 All right, let's see who the trash talkers are. 4429 03:53:57,910 --> 03:54:01,350 I would like to establish a city council ad hoc 2 by 2 4430 03:54:01,350 --> 03:54:05,830 solid waste committee and appoint Council Member Morowit 4431 03:54:05,830 --> 03:54:11,390 and Vice Mayor Regina Lackey to serve on the committee. 4432 03:54:11,390 --> 03:54:13,370 Mayor, just confirming that is your motion. 4433 03:54:13,370 --> 03:54:15,770 That is my motion. 4434 03:54:17,190 --> 03:54:18,730 OK, I got a motion and a second. 4435 03:54:18,730 --> 03:54:19,850 All in favor, say aye. 4436 03:54:19,850 --> 03:54:21,850 Aye. 4437 03:54:25,700 --> 03:54:29,150 Do I have a no or an abstention? 4438 03:54:29,150 --> 03:54:31,150 Aye, yes. 4439 03:54:32,610 --> 03:54:33,570 It's going to be fun. 4440 03:54:33,570 --> 03:54:35,970 It really will be. 4441 03:54:36,470 --> 03:54:41,300 Guys, don't talk too much trash, all right? 4442 03:54:41,300 --> 03:54:46,550 All right, that was a 5-0, by the way, on that one. 4443 03:54:46,550 --> 03:54:47,950 With that, we're going to move on 4444 03:54:47,950 --> 03:54:50,360 to-- thank God we're finally here. 4445 03:54:50,360 --> 03:54:52,240 City manager comments. 4446 03:54:52,240 --> 03:54:54,600 All right, thanks, Mayor and council. 4447 03:54:54,600 --> 03:54:55,900 So just a quick recap. 4448 03:54:55,900 --> 03:54:58,320 Big thank you for the parks fee, getting it 4449 03:54:58,320 --> 03:55:00,920 to the finish line and all the support 4450 03:55:00,920 --> 03:55:04,320 from everyone that came along with it. 4451 03:55:04,320 --> 03:55:05,660 We haven't been here in a while. 4452 03:55:05,660 --> 03:55:10,160 So I do want to thank the Sunrise Kiwanis for the 4th 4453 03:55:10,160 --> 03:55:11,260 of July parade. 4454 03:55:11,260 --> 03:55:14,200 And then also, I wanted to thank parks and recreation 4455 03:55:14,200 --> 03:55:18,480 and PD for hosting the National Night Out Community Party. 4456 03:55:18,480 --> 03:55:21,880 Again, I thought that was really nice. 4457 03:55:21,880 --> 03:55:25,420 Some special events coming up-- we have Loma ribbon cutting. 4458 03:55:25,420 --> 03:55:27,400 It's supposed to be on Friday at 11, 4459 03:55:27,400 --> 03:55:28,900 but I saw something on social media. 4460 03:55:28,900 --> 03:55:29,733 It might be at 2:00. 4461 03:55:29,733 --> 03:55:33,180 So keep your eyes out for whatever time it is. 4462 03:55:33,180 --> 03:55:36,740 I'm not sure if it changed, but excited that Loma is open. 4463 03:55:36,740 --> 03:55:40,000 Music on Maple will be on the 20th. 4464 03:55:40,000 --> 03:55:42,820 Manteca Citizens Academy will kick off next week. 4465 03:55:42,820 --> 03:55:45,360 This last week we started level up. 4466 03:55:45,360 --> 03:55:50,350 We have lots of upcoming ribbon cuttings and groundbreaking. 4467 03:55:50,350 --> 03:55:53,410 So the way Veterans Village will be on September 8. 4468 03:55:53,410 --> 03:55:56,730 The transitional housing and dog containers ribbon cutting 4469 03:55:56,730 --> 03:55:58,930 will be on September 9. 4470 03:55:58,930 --> 03:56:01,330 We're going to be doing a groundbreaking for our Police 4471 03:56:01,330 --> 03:56:05,730 Department on October 7 and then fire station 6 on October 14. 4472 03:56:05,730 --> 03:56:09,570 So all of this will be put on social media and more details 4473 03:56:09,570 --> 03:56:10,970 to come on that. 4474 03:56:10,970 --> 03:56:13,650 We'll also be doing a little event 4475 03:56:13,650 --> 03:56:18,450 at what we're calling Mural Alley on September 17, 4476 03:56:19,470 --> 03:56:21,500 before [INAUDIBLE]. 4477 03:56:21,500 --> 03:56:23,810 So more details to come for that. 4478 03:56:23,810 --> 03:56:25,992 August 20, I want to take a moment. 4479 03:56:25,992 --> 03:56:28,450 We're going to be launching our new website, which is going 4480 03:56:28,450 --> 03:56:30,230 to include some ADA components. 4481 03:56:30,230 --> 03:56:33,170 It's going to have an AI chatbot to help 4482 03:56:33,170 --> 03:56:36,468 our residents with questions that they have in real time. 4483 03:56:36,468 --> 03:56:38,100 And I want to take a moment and thank 4484 03:56:38,100 --> 03:56:41,190 Penny, who is our IT and innovation director, 4485 03:56:41,190 --> 03:56:42,810 and her team. 4486 03:56:42,810 --> 03:56:44,950 It looks really amazing. 4487 03:56:44,950 --> 03:56:46,900 They've done a good job. 4488 03:56:46,900 --> 03:56:48,830 And we've needed the update for quite some time. 4489 03:56:48,830 --> 03:56:51,400 So thank you, Penny, to you and your team for all 4490 03:56:51,400 --> 03:56:52,150 that you're doing. 4491 03:56:52,150 --> 03:56:55,210 And I hope that the citizens in our community 4492 03:56:55,210 --> 03:56:57,330 enjoy it just as much as we are. 4493 03:56:57,330 --> 03:56:59,510 It's really user friendly. 4494 03:56:59,510 --> 03:57:02,100 And then lastly, I want to close out the meeting just saying 4495 03:57:02,100 --> 03:57:06,170 that, even though tonight it was a long meeting, that I just 4496 03:57:06,170 --> 03:57:08,250 want to state that we do understand and respect 4497 03:57:08,250 --> 03:57:12,850 all of our employees and their right to express their views. 4498 03:57:12,850 --> 03:57:15,590 We recognize the importance of negotiation. 4499 03:57:15,590 --> 03:57:18,490 And with that, we've also had with the two bargaining groups 4500 03:57:18,490 --> 03:57:22,490 that were here tonight, a total of 17 meetings with them, 4501 03:57:22,490 --> 03:57:26,970 combined to date, with multiple emails, several costing 4502 03:57:26,970 --> 03:57:29,370 of proposals, budget presentations. 4503 03:57:30,450 --> 03:57:33,490 We are definitely committed to working collaboratively 4504 03:57:33,490 --> 03:57:35,290 and constructively with our employee 4505 03:57:35,290 --> 03:57:37,390 reps to reach an agreement. 4506 03:57:37,390 --> 03:57:39,390 We value all of our employees. 4507 03:57:39,390 --> 03:57:41,770 So I just want to make sure that that's clear. 4508 03:57:41,770 --> 03:57:43,450 But most importantly, we're committed 4509 03:57:43,450 --> 03:57:45,920 to maintaining long term success of our city 4510 03:57:45,920 --> 03:57:48,220 and we talk about that a lot here. 4511 03:57:48,220 --> 03:57:50,940 We've been engaged in discussions. 4512 03:57:50,940 --> 03:57:53,260 And I'm optimistic that we're going 4513 03:57:53,260 --> 03:57:55,600 to find a good common ground. 4514 03:57:55,600 --> 03:57:57,460 And also to yearly-- 4515 03:57:59,260 --> 03:58:01,560 I believe there's new legislation tied to it. 4516 03:58:01,560 --> 03:58:03,700 It's tied to our retention rates. 4517 03:58:03,700 --> 03:58:07,900 And we have a really high retention. 4518 03:58:08,200 --> 03:58:10,120 And I do plan on keeping that. 4519 03:58:10,120 --> 03:58:13,200 We have a really good work culture. 4520 03:58:13,200 --> 03:58:18,420 So I'm really optimistic that we'll move this forward. 4521 03:58:18,520 --> 03:58:20,500 So I just wanted to close the meeting with that 4522 03:58:20,500 --> 03:58:25,300 and thank everyone tonight for-- who came out. 4523 03:58:25,580 --> 03:58:28,840 The next meeting will be September 1. 4524 03:58:28,840 --> 03:58:32,600 And that concludes my report, unless council has any questions 4525 03:58:32,600 --> 03:58:33,280 for me this evening. 4526 03:58:33,280 --> 03:58:35,140 Thank you. 4527 03:58:35,140 --> 03:58:38,100 All right, thank you, Toni. 4528 03:58:38,100 --> 03:58:41,100 All right, Council Member Halford. 4529 03:58:43,335 --> 03:58:44,440 Long but good meeting. 4530 03:58:44,440 --> 03:58:46,440 Good night. 4531 03:58:46,870 --> 03:58:48,870 Vice Mayor. 4532 03:58:51,110 --> 03:58:52,830 Good to be back. 4533 03:58:52,830 --> 03:58:54,630 See you on the 1st. 4534 03:58:54,630 --> 03:58:56,190 1st? 4535 03:58:56,190 --> 03:58:58,190 Oh. 4536 03:59:02,670 --> 03:59:07,470 The next time we see you, congratulations, grandma. 4537 03:59:10,270 --> 03:59:13,390 Shout out to the budget engagement process. 4538 03:59:13,390 --> 03:59:16,350 Thank you guys for doing that and allowing the citizens 4539 03:59:16,350 --> 03:59:18,300 to take part in it. 4540 03:59:18,300 --> 03:59:19,710 That's a great thing. 4541 03:59:19,710 --> 03:59:22,550 I want to thank Brandy for helping Daryl tonight 4542 03:59:22,550 --> 03:59:24,870 and addressing his concerns. 4543 03:59:24,870 --> 03:59:26,125 [INAUDIBLE] and streets. 4544 03:59:26,125 --> 03:59:27,750 I was told you guys are already working 4545 03:59:27,750 --> 03:59:30,190 on the concerns for Mr. Peters. 4546 03:59:30,190 --> 03:59:31,545 I'm glad to hear that. 4547 03:59:31,545 --> 03:59:33,170 You and I were in high school together. 4548 03:59:33,170 --> 03:59:36,930 And then we talked about the Flock cameras. 4549 03:59:36,930 --> 03:59:39,750 And I didn't get to mention this because Gary passed me 4550 03:59:39,750 --> 03:59:41,230 in comments. 4551 03:59:41,230 --> 03:59:43,510 Yeah, it's a long night. 4552 03:59:43,510 --> 03:59:46,950 But library and Lincoln Park have benefited greatly 4553 03:59:46,950 --> 03:59:48,590 from those cameras. 4554 03:59:48,590 --> 03:59:49,710 We appreciate them. 4555 03:59:49,710 --> 03:59:55,390 And then the three of us were out on quality of life operation 4556 03:59:55,390 --> 03:59:56,830 last Saturday. 4557 03:59:56,830 --> 03:59:57,710 Yeah. 4558 03:59:57,710 --> 04:00:01,310 And they had 14 arrests and 14 citations. 4559 04:00:03,790 --> 04:00:08,770 I can't remember, did we get anybody directed to 555? 4560 04:00:08,770 --> 04:00:10,850 Three got directed to 555. 4561 04:00:10,850 --> 04:00:14,700 So very good night we had there. 4562 04:00:14,700 --> 04:00:18,230 And again, that kennel is going to make a difference. 4563 04:00:18,230 --> 04:00:20,270 And like I said, we should probably 4564 04:00:20,270 --> 04:00:23,450 be looking at that second in the near future. 4565 04:00:23,450 --> 04:00:28,930 So as the process goes there, I'm glad we got the roof going. 4566 04:00:28,930 --> 04:00:31,237 We got it purchased. 4567 04:00:31,237 --> 04:00:32,570 And we're going to move forward. 4568 04:00:32,570 --> 04:00:34,190 So that's another great thing. 4569 04:00:34,190 --> 04:00:36,270 With the police station, fire station, 4570 04:00:36,270 --> 04:00:38,310 we've got a lot going on. 4571 04:00:38,310 --> 04:00:42,480 And the streets and everything else that's going on. 4572 04:00:42,480 --> 04:00:44,480 Thank you. 4573 04:00:44,560 --> 04:00:47,560 All right, Council Member Morowit. 4574 04:00:48,560 --> 04:00:49,580 A great meeting. 4575 04:00:49,580 --> 04:00:52,260 I will thank staff for all what they did tonight. 4576 04:00:52,260 --> 04:00:54,680 I mean, we had a bit of a break. 4577 04:00:54,680 --> 04:00:58,240 So moving forward, we had a lot of staff, a lot of meeting. 4578 04:00:58,240 --> 04:00:59,360 Long night. 4579 04:00:59,360 --> 04:01:01,240 Everybody was on their game. 4580 04:01:01,240 --> 04:01:02,960 So I appreciate that. 4581 04:01:02,960 --> 04:01:06,280 And to the folks that came to speak about their bargaining 4582 04:01:06,280 --> 04:01:08,760 groups, I appreciate how respectful 4583 04:01:08,760 --> 04:01:12,520 they were coming to the meeting and expressing their concerns. 4584 04:01:12,520 --> 04:01:15,560 And we take those very seriously at the City of Manteca. 4585 04:01:15,560 --> 04:01:18,840 So thank you and have a good evening. 4586 04:01:18,840 --> 04:01:20,137 All right, thank you. 4587 04:01:20,137 --> 04:01:22,720 Yeah, this has got to be one of the longest meetings I've ever 4588 04:01:22,720 --> 04:01:25,120 had the four years. 4589 04:01:25,440 --> 04:01:27,440 No, not all. 4590 04:01:28,120 --> 04:01:30,520 There's been some doozies. 4591 04:01:30,720 --> 04:01:34,540 But thank you for everyone coming out tonight. 4592 04:01:34,540 --> 04:01:36,360 It was a great meeting. 4593 04:01:36,360 --> 04:01:40,730 Thank you to all the staff that came and voiced their concerns. 4594 04:01:40,730 --> 04:01:41,990 And we hear you. 4595 04:01:41,990 --> 04:01:45,970 And I know our staff's going to be working diligently 4596 04:01:45,970 --> 04:01:48,370 to get a solution. 4597 04:01:48,650 --> 04:01:52,690 And so hopefully, we're going to hear that soon. 4598 04:01:52,690 --> 04:01:57,490 Also a lot of good stuff covered tonight. 4599 04:01:58,100 --> 04:01:59,730 One of the things I do want to see 4600 04:01:59,730 --> 04:02:01,410 if we have council consensus, I would 4601 04:02:01,410 --> 04:02:04,490 like to see our police department come back 4602 04:02:04,490 --> 04:02:11,500 and present to us when it comes to Flock cameras and a policy 4603 04:02:11,500 --> 04:02:16,770 and procedures that we follow and talk about some of the myths 4604 04:02:16,770 --> 04:02:19,770 out there and Flock overall. 4605 04:02:20,210 --> 04:02:22,930 And so that way we can also educate 4606 04:02:22,930 --> 04:02:24,590 the council and our public. 4607 04:02:24,590 --> 04:02:26,257 So you guys are good with that. 4608 04:02:26,257 --> 04:02:28,900 I would like to see a presentation come back 4609 04:02:28,900 --> 04:02:30,900 to us sooner. 4610 04:02:31,250 --> 04:02:32,930 So it looks like we got nods. 4611 04:02:32,930 --> 04:02:35,250 So we're good with that. 4612 04:02:35,250 --> 04:02:38,770 With that, it's been a long time since we've had a meeting. 4613 04:02:38,770 --> 04:02:41,790 And then we might be a little rusty, but here we are. 4614 04:02:41,790 --> 04:02:43,930 We made it to the end. 4615 04:02:43,930 --> 04:02:47,100 Do we want to pick a date for them to come back? 4616 04:02:47,100 --> 04:02:50,130 Is that what you're asking, Cass? 4617 04:02:50,130 --> 04:02:51,710 When can you present that to us? 4618 04:02:51,710 --> 04:02:53,710 By next meeting? 4619 04:02:56,410 --> 04:02:58,370 What kind of effort? 4620 04:02:58,370 --> 04:03:00,370 Roll tide effort? 4621 04:03:02,610 --> 04:03:03,830 All right, sounds good. 4622 04:03:03,830 --> 04:03:05,830 September 1st. 4623 04:03:09,130 --> 04:03:11,130 He's excited. 4624 04:03:11,490 --> 04:03:14,990 And with that, those are my comments for tonight. 4625 04:03:14,990 --> 04:03:17,410 I do want to adjourn tonight's meeting. 4626 04:03:17,410 --> 04:03:22,270 We lost a great person in our community and wonderful person. 4627 04:03:22,270 --> 04:03:24,650 And he will be sorely missed. 4628 04:03:24,650 --> 04:03:26,650 And so I would like to adjourn tonight's meeting 4629 04:03:26,650 --> 04:03:30,250 in the memory of Bruce Bell.