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of the martinez city council, wednesday, november

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7:is 7 p.m.

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city clerk please call the roll.

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[ roll call ]

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>> wonderful, please join me

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for the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the united states of america and

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to the republic for which

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it stands, one nation

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under god, indivisible with liberty

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and justice

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for all.

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all right, to start up the meeting we

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have a couple

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of presentations and so I'm going

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to ask the council to come down and

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we will present from down there.

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okay, thank you.

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please, come on up.

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all right, good evening everyone.

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so I have the

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honor and we will go ahead and invite

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the whole community, those of you

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here for the sikh awareness and appreciation

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month

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if I can invite you all to come up

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and join

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the council, thank you very much.

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all right, so

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sikh awareness and appreciation month

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whereas

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sikh is the 5th largest religion with

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25 million

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followers worldwide and more than

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500,000 in the united states many

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of whom have called california home

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since the late 1800s whereas sikh

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americans

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have contributed significantly to

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the

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nations growth to their work

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in agriculture, business, education, technology

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and public service including

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the city of martinez where

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councilmember malhi became the city's

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1st sikh

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american council member whereas the

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values of equality, service

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and justice are reflected through

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acts

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of community service including providing

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free meals,

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aiding seniors

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and supporting local relief efforts

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whereas despite

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facing discrimination and hate crimes

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sikh americans continue to demonstrate

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resilience,

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compassion and eternal optimism

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in opposing the dignity of

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all people.

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whereas the city of martinez honors

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and celebrates the many ways sikh

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americans

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strengthen communities and enrich

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the social and cultural

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fabric of our city and our nation.

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now therefore be it resolved that

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mayor zorn and

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city council on behalf of our entire

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council I should

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say do hereby proclaim november 2025 as

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sikh awareness and appreciation month

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in

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the city of martinez.

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and so, very quickly I

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have up here many local residents

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in martinez including business owners including

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daisy and

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, the owners of the subway and we

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have the

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owners of the marina minimart

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and pacheco truck stop

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and we have some other local residents

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here as well and

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I want to say thank you, we are so

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proud you

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have chosen to call martin is

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your home . We have a representative

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of the local

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house of worship

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where many of

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our local sikh go to worship. Did

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want to say anything?

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okay. All right, very good. With that

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thank you all very much and very quickly,

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my mom is here in

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the audience and she made some traditional

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tea, so if you would

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like to have some , there was

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some in the corner along with some

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sweets. And

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a qr code where you can learn a little

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bit more

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about our faith, culture and history

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so if that is of

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interest I

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encourage you to partake in that as

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well, thank you very much. We will

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go ahead and get a couple of photos.

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good evening mayor and members of

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the council and members of the public

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for those who don't know me

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my name is andrew white chief of police

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for

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the city of martinez, tonight we are

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swearing in our 3 newest sergeants

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this time I would like to call forward

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sgt. Mayberry,

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sgt.

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carney, scott

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carney.

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sgt.

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so, before we get started with

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their portion I wanted to recognize

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a few people 1st of all current serving

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officers

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that are here if you're not standing,

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stand up so we can recognize your

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service to our community.

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thank you. Some are still shy.

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secondly I want to recognize we have

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numerous retirees

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that have joined us, including 2 prior chiefs.

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thank you for joining us.

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I just want to point out in

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law enforcement

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particularly serving in

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the city of martinez service extends beyond

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any one of us

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it is about the connection to the

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community and connection to the profession

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and I was incredibly

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delighted to see all the retirees

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that have shown up to support

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this legacy. We have one individual

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sgt. Mayberry

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who essentially grew up through the

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department and it is nice to see people

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coming back and supporting, I

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want to stand here to say how much we

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appreciate all of your service

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and we never forget what you have

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done for the city

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and we will do everything to continue

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to take care of

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you, we are delighted to have one

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retired k-9 dog that's

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hiding in the corner.

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all right, without further ado if we can

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call forward folks that are going to be

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pinning the badge

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so for sgt. Mayberry, his daughter charlotte

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, come forward please.

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1st sgt.

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king , his

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sister, marissa.

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and I will be pinning sgt. Carney's

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badge.

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>> at this

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time I would like to call forward

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our city clerk who will administer

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the oath of office and while

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a want to recognize in the police department

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obviously police

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on the streets are delivering service

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that the community needs

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and keeps them safe

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but next to that work being done some

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of the most

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important people in the department

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in leadership

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by the front-line supervisors 24 hours

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a day

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providing support , leadership and

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guidance in the mentorship

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for officers coming into the agency

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it takes a lot to go through the testing process.

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preparing yourselves to do it

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and these 3 individuals have done

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everything they need to do to earn

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this position.

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and the coming months the coming years

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will demonstrate that through their

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hard work. I

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appreciate you stepping up to do this

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and behind them we have

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2 more sergeants promoted

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so it is a big deal for martinez police

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and maybe the most

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sergeants promoted in a short period

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of time.

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without further ado I will turn it

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over to the city

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clerk to minister the oath of office.

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>> thank

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you chief, good evening everyone.

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sergeants please raise

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your right hand and repeat

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after me. I, state your name

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to solemnly affirm

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that I will support and defend

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the constitution of the

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united states

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and the constitution of the state

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of california.

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against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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that I will bear

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true faith. And allegiance to the same.

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that I

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take this obligation freely .

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without any mental reservation.

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or

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purpose of evasion. And I will

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well and faithfully discharge

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the duties

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of the office I am about to enter.

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that is it, congratulations.

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at this time all

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pd staff that have come you are free to

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go next door, for the dinner and to

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the rest of

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the community, thank you for your

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support we

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could not do the job without your

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support cheering these guys on that

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was a

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good cheering section, thank you.

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>> next up is the chamber of commerce,

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if you would like to

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come up.

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thank you, all right.

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hello everyone,

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I am the president of the chamber

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of

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commerce and tonight we are celebrating

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a special business of the month and

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I am honored to do this one in

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the business community we talk about,

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1st of all sorry

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let me back up I want to thank

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the mayor and city council for having

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us tonight, thank

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you everyone and city staff and my

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chamber

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staff for being here. In the business community

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we

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talk about the successes

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of businesses and a special success

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is when a business is able to start and

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and last for a really long time and

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then move on without the business

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closing, have the business change hands

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and that is a

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huge tremendous success story when

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a small business can do that and the

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california

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magic club is a great example of that situation.

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jerry griffin started the

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magic theater many years ago.

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has been a fixture of martinez 21

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years and announced

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his retirement last month. And

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now taking the home he

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has bought the business and is carrying

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on the magic

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and we could not be more thrilled

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for knowing that jerry

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is able to lead

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, lead to the next phase of

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his dream and that john is

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going to be able to carry on his dream

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as well within

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the business. So I want to thank and

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honor both

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jerry and john as business

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of the month for chamber of commerce and

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to wish you both well, great success and

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to

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applaud you for what you are doing

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in the community

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right now. Before

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I turn it over we have a presentation,

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we will go with

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angela from senator grayson's office

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and then also making

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a presentation .

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>>

314
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thank you hello again

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my name is angela from the office

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of senator tim grayson, honored

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to be here to present certificate

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of recognition

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to the california magic club. I want

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to join with others recognizing the

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california magic club

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as the martinez business of the month,

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dedication to excellence and valued

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contribution in which the quality

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and strength of the community.

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on behalf of the 9 senate district

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congratulations.

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>>

329
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once again my name is ,

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and representing the assemblywoman

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district 15

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and on behalf of the california state legislature

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I would like to recognize california

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magic club. Proud to recognize california

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magic club

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as business of the month november

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2025,

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this entertainment

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and dining establishment has enriched

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the community by blending exceptional

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hospitality with

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timeless artistry of live magic

343
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for its welcoming atmosphere, support

344
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for talent and dedication to offering memorable

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experiences, this

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reflect the dedicated service and

347
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meaningful role that you play in enriching

348
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the community. Congratulations

349
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on this milestone.

350
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>>

351
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I would also like to recognize you,

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mr. Jerry. Proud to celebrate the

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milestone of

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your retirement marking the culmination

355
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of

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more than 20 years of dedicated service

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to the california

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magic club

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and martinez community. Throughout

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your remarkable

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tenure artistry and commitment has

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made you a beloved figure

363
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in the

364
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martinez business district. I extend

365
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my heartfelt appreciation for outstanding

366
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contributions and wish

367
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you great fulfillment and joy in the years ahead.

368
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>> I will turn it over to say

369
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a few words.

370
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>> I will keep it short

371
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I am a person of few words. Thank

372
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you very very much for this. I am

373
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very humbled and grateful

374
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for this acknowledgment.

375
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as I looked around the

376
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room the 1st person I saw when I came

377
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in was joe sitting

378
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over there. That gentleman was here

379
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in town 21

380
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years ago when we 1st got started

381
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he would come in

382
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and have lunch when we were serving

383
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lunch but for

384
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anyone in business for themselves

385
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they know it's a lot of hard

386
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work, sweat and a few

387
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tears when you get started. I am very grateful

388
00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:31,870
we have been

389
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here as long as we have and it

390
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is a wonderful time and I want to

391
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say thank you to the city

392
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who welcomed me so well back in the day

393
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when we opened on april

394
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fools' day of 2004. I had been to

395
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a number of cities,

396
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the one I grew up in, antioch, pleasant

397
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hill where I had my

398
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magic store at the time and there

399
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was a lot of hoops to jump through

400
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and a young lady by the name of debbie

401
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dodson who had a

402
00:24:58,899 --> 00:24:59,900
business in town said you have to

403
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,902
come to martinez and see

404
00:25:01,902 --> 00:25:05,873
what they are doing so when I came down

405
00:25:05,873 --> 00:25:06,874
a lady

406
00:25:06,874 --> 00:25:08,876
by the name of leanne I can't remember

407
00:25:08,876 --> 00:25:10,878
her last name she was

408
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the business development lady at the

409
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time, she

410
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,881
took me around and showed me all of

411
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this. Everyone, the gentleman in charge

412
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of

413
00:25:16,884 --> 00:25:17,885
the business building codes and everything

414
00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:20,285
like that, he took

415
00:25:20,888 --> 00:25:25,880
me in and made it very easy

416
00:25:25,893 --> 00:25:26,894
to get started so I want to say how

417
00:25:26,894 --> 00:25:28,896
grateful I am to the city

418
00:25:28,896 --> 00:25:29,897
of martinez and all the help you have

419
00:25:29,897 --> 00:25:32,897
given me over the years

420
00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:33,901
now to my dear friend john

421
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who I have known at least 30 years

422
00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:37,871
and as the old song

423
00:25:37,871 --> 00:25:38,872
goes. I do believe that truly so thank

424
00:25:38,872 --> 00:25:40,872
you

425
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:44,875
very much everyone. Thank you.

426
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,881
>> I will keep it even shorter. I

427
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want

428
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to say thank you.

429
00:25:52,886 --> 00:25:53,887
a great honor to be welcomed to the

430
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community in this way.

431
00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,890
truly appreciate everyone coming down

432
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:57,891
to recognize

433
00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,893
what jerry has done over the course

434
00:25:59,893 --> 00:26:02,896
of 21 years in business and I

435
00:26:02,896 --> 00:26:05,896
hope to have 21 more. Thank

436
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:07,899
you very much.

437
00:28:08,889 --> 00:28:10,889
>>

438
00:28:11,892 --> 00:28:14,292
who has the microphone?

439
00:28:23,871 --> 00:28:26,271
>> all right, next item

440
00:28:26,874 --> 00:28:29,874
is a thrown labs update.

441
00:28:29,877 --> 00:28:33,477
mike, will you be introducing them?

442
00:28:35,883 --> 00:28:37,883
gotcha okay.

443
00:28:37,885 --> 00:28:38,886
they will be promoted there in the

444
00:28:38,886 --> 00:28:40,886
virtual audience.

445
00:28:40,888 --> 00:28:41,889
>> while getting promoted for anyone

446
00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:43,889
who is

447
00:28:44,892 --> 00:28:46,894
not aware the thrown labs is

448
00:28:46,894 --> 00:28:47,895
our free bathroom available to the public

449
00:28:47,895 --> 00:28:49,895
that

450
00:28:50,898 --> 00:28:53,901
is in the plaza downtown. And it has

451
00:28:53,901 --> 00:28:56,870
been a wonderful at to our plaza area

452
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:57,871
and looking forward to hearing some

453
00:28:57,871 --> 00:28:59,871
of

454
00:28:59,873 --> 00:29:02,273
the statistics from thrown

455
00:29:02,876 --> 00:29:05,276
labs themselves. Hi natasha.

456
00:29:05,879 --> 00:29:08,879
>> hi how are you? >> great,

457
00:29:08,882 --> 00:29:11,885
thank you for joining us. Okay

458
00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:12,886
I will go ahead and jump in, thank

459
00:29:12,886 --> 00:29:14,886
you for

460
00:29:14,888 --> 00:29:16,890
introducing thrown labs as a new

461
00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:17,891
free bathroom you all have downtown

462
00:29:17,891 --> 00:29:19,891
I'm

463
00:29:20,894 --> 00:29:21,895
trying to share my screen but it is

464
00:29:21,895 --> 00:29:23,895
not allowing

465
00:29:23,897 --> 00:29:26,897
me to is there another

466
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,902
, another thing I need to do

467
00:29:28,902 --> 00:29:29,870
to be able to share the screen?

468
00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:30,871
>>

469
00:29:30,871 --> 00:29:32,871
you should

470
00:29:32,873 --> 00:29:35,876
be able to share. Can you try again?

471
00:29:35,876 --> 00:29:37,876
>> yes.

472
00:29:51,892 --> 00:29:53,892
>> sorry

473
00:29:53,894 --> 00:29:57,898
it's going to have me leave and come back.

474
00:29:57,898 --> 00:30:00,898
I will be right back.

475
00:30:09,877 --> 00:30:11,877
>> she actually had

476
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280
to log out completely.

477
00:30:15,883 --> 00:30:16,884
it will be 1 minute.

478
00:30:16,884 --> 00:30:17,885
>> while she

479
00:30:17,885 --> 00:30:21,889
is doing that should we jump ahead

480
00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:24,889
to public , can I rearrange

481
00:30:24,892 --> 00:30:26,894
the agenda and to the consent

482
00:30:26,894 --> 00:30:30,898
calendar 1st then we go back to public comment?

483
00:30:30,898 --> 00:30:33,898
>> that is within your proper.

484
00:30:33,901 --> 00:30:34,902
>> let's do consent calendar

485
00:30:34,902 --> 00:30:35,869
as we wait for her to reconnect in

486
00:30:35,869 --> 00:30:36,870
case we get a bunch of public comments,

487
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:37,871
for

488
00:30:37,871 --> 00:30:39,873
the consent calendar there are items

489
00:30:39,873 --> 00:30:41,873
5

490
00:30:42,876 --> 00:30:44,876
through 16. Does

491
00:30:44,878 --> 00:30:46,880
anyone on council want to pull items off

492
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,882
the consent calendar this evening?

493
00:30:48,882 --> 00:30:50,882
>>

494
00:30:51,885 --> 00:30:54,888
I don't have my agenda up

495
00:30:54,888 --> 00:30:55,889
but I think it is item 13.

496
00:30:55,889 --> 00:30:57,889
>>

497
00:30:57,891 --> 00:30:58,892
I was going to say 13.

498
00:30:58,892 --> 00:30:59,893
>>

499
00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:00,894
you want to pull that one okay. In

500
00:31:00,894 --> 00:31:02,894
that case I

501
00:31:03,897 --> 00:31:05,897
will open up

502
00:31:05,899 --> 00:31:06,900
to public comment. If there are any

503
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:07,901
consent calendar items 5

504
00:31:07,901 --> 00:31:09,870
through 12 and 14 through 16 for those

505
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:10,871
of you in council

506
00:31:10,871 --> 00:31:12,873
chambers does anyone have comments

507
00:31:12,873 --> 00:31:14,873
on

508
00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:17,875
consent calendar items excluding item 13?

509
00:31:18,879 --> 00:31:20,879
how about anyone

510
00:31:21,882 --> 00:31:22,883
in the virtual audience?

511
00:31:22,883 --> 00:31:23,884
>>

512
00:31:23,884 --> 00:31:24,885
those attending virtually please use

513
00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:27,285
the raise hand feature.

514
00:31:30,891 --> 00:31:31,892
I have no hands.

515
00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:32,893
>>

516
00:31:32,893 --> 00:31:33,894
all right we will bring this back

517
00:31:33,894 --> 00:31:36,294
to council for final

518
00:31:36,897 --> 00:31:37,898
comments or emotion.

519
00:31:37,898 --> 00:31:38,899
>>

520
00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:39,900
make a motion to pass consent calendar

521
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:41,900
items 5 through 12 and 14

522
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:44,870
to 16 correct?

523
00:31:45,873 --> 00:31:48,273
>> 2nd. >> all in favor?

524
00:31:48,876 --> 00:31:49,877
excellent.

525
00:31:49,877 --> 00:31:50,878
>> the motion

526
00:31:50,878 --> 00:31:51,879
passes.

527
00:31:51,879 --> 00:31:52,880
>> is she back online or can

528
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880
we proceed?

529
00:31:54,882 --> 00:31:57,282
>> she is back online. >>

530
00:31:57,885 --> 00:32:00,888
pause on item 13 go back to

531
00:32:00,888 --> 00:32:04,488
it and go back to natasha.

532
00:32:09,897 --> 00:32:11,897
>>

533
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,900
all right

534
00:32:14,902 --> 00:32:15,903
trying again thank you everyone sorry

535
00:32:15,903 --> 00:32:17,903
about that.

536
00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:23,875
>> there we go.

537
00:32:24,878 --> 00:32:27,278
>> we were just admiring

538
00:32:27,881 --> 00:32:28,882
your santa claus earrings.

539
00:32:28,882 --> 00:32:30,882
>>

540
00:32:30,884 --> 00:32:33,887
thank you, they are actually cows

541
00:32:33,887 --> 00:32:34,888
dressed as santa.

542
00:32:34,888 --> 00:32:36,888
>>

543
00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:37,891
even more.

544
00:32:37,891 --> 00:32:39,891
>> thank you,

545
00:32:39,893 --> 00:32:42,896
they have been my mom's for 30 years

546
00:32:42,896 --> 00:32:44,898
so I will let her know you

547
00:32:44,898 --> 00:32:45,899
liked them. Thank you, as you heard

548
00:32:45,899 --> 00:32:47,899
before I

549
00:32:48,902 --> 00:32:50,871
am from thrown labs, the new free

550
00:32:50,871 --> 00:32:51,872
bathroom in martinez. Here today to

551
00:32:51,872 --> 00:32:53,872
give you a

552
00:32:53,874 --> 00:32:54,875
quick overview of what the thrown

553
00:32:54,875 --> 00:32:57,275
bathroom is. I want

554
00:32:57,878 --> 00:32:59,880
to give anyone who has not heard about thrown

555
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,881
or is not familiar with the difference

556
00:33:00,881 --> 00:33:02,881
of what

557
00:33:03,884 --> 00:33:04,885
we have to offer versus a traditional

558
00:33:04,885 --> 00:33:05,886
public

559
00:33:05,886 --> 00:33:06,887
restroom we will give you a quick

560
00:33:06,887 --> 00:33:08,889
overview and talk about how the throne

561
00:33:08,889 --> 00:33:09,890
in martinez is going so far so one

562
00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:11,890
of the benefits

563
00:33:12,893 --> 00:33:15,896
is we are able to collect a lot

564
00:33:15,896 --> 00:33:16,897
of awesome data , not on your specific

565
00:33:16,897 --> 00:33:18,897
usage,

566
00:33:18,899 --> 00:33:19,900
I swear but on usage trends in general

567
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:20,901
so

568
00:33:20,901 --> 00:33:21,902
we will go over that and time at the

569
00:33:21,902 --> 00:33:23,902
end if

570
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:27,272
anyone has specific questions.

571
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,877
jumping into how we

572
00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:30,878
got here today. Martinez was the 1st

573
00:33:30,878 --> 00:33:33,278
city to actually bring

574
00:33:33,881 --> 00:33:36,881
smart restrooms to the bay

575
00:33:36,884 --> 00:33:38,886
area and after you we had south

576
00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:42,486
san francisco and berkeley follow suit.

577
00:33:42,890 --> 00:33:44,892
one to highlight you as you are the

578
00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:45,893
leaders of innovation of the bay area

579
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:47,895
when it comes to smart restrooms which

580
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:48,896
has been exciting to see this newer

581
00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:50,896
innovative bathroom

582
00:33:51,899 --> 00:33:54,902
really take hold into your town

583
00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:57,871
and we have seen comments from

584
00:33:57,871 --> 00:33:59,873
users letting us know it has made

585
00:33:59,873 --> 00:34:00,874
it easier for residents to shop, dine

586
00:34:00,874 --> 00:34:03,874
and stay around main street

587
00:34:03,877 --> 00:34:04,878
known to have a public restroom option

588
00:34:04,878 --> 00:34:06,878
available

589
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,881
to them. You might be

590
00:34:07,881 --> 00:34:09,883
wondering what is different about

591
00:34:09,883 --> 00:34:11,883
the thrown

592
00:34:12,886 --> 00:34:13,887
advised this public restroom something

593
00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:14,888
we're

594
00:34:14,888 --> 00:34:15,889
talking about today? The throne is a innovative

595
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:17,889
new smart bathroom

596
00:34:21,895 --> 00:34:22,896
so it is ada compliant making it easy

597
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:24,896
for folks to

598
00:34:24,898 --> 00:34:27,898
use even in a wheelchair,

599
00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:30,871
fast and flexible we can pick it up

600
00:34:30,871 --> 00:34:32,873
it is prefabricated and

601
00:34:32,873 --> 00:34:33,874
move it to the place we want to be

602
00:34:33,874 --> 00:34:35,876
in with no hookups and for

603
00:34:35,876 --> 00:34:36,877
that reason, no hassle, you don't

604
00:34:36,877 --> 00:34:38,879
have to have a sewage system or plumbing

605
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:39,880
system underground and you don't have

606
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,883
to have electrical hookups if you're

607
00:34:42,883 --> 00:34:43,884
able to access solar so that makes

608
00:34:43,884 --> 00:34:44,885
it easy for

609
00:34:44,885 --> 00:34:46,887
you to put it where you might need

610
00:34:46,887 --> 00:34:48,887
a portable bathroom.

611
00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:50,891
we also have smart systems

612
00:34:50,891 --> 00:34:52,893
in place that promote user accountability

613
00:34:52,893 --> 00:34:54,893
so while

614
00:34:54,895 --> 00:34:55,896
in some traditional bathrooms you

615
00:34:55,896 --> 00:34:57,896
may have issues

616
00:34:58,899 --> 00:35:01,902
around users using it or misusing

617
00:35:01,902 --> 00:35:03,871
the space we don't see that

618
00:35:03,871 --> 00:35:04,872
as much in throne because we have

619
00:35:04,872 --> 00:35:06,872
accountability

620
00:35:06,874 --> 00:35:08,876
systems built in and we have smart

621
00:35:08,876 --> 00:35:10,878
cleaning system we will talk more

622
00:35:10,878 --> 00:35:11,879
about where we are able

623
00:35:11,879 --> 00:35:14,879
to proactively and reactively clean

624
00:35:18,886 --> 00:35:19,887
thrones based off of usage patterns

625
00:35:19,887 --> 00:35:20,888
and we hold all the

626
00:35:20,888 --> 00:35:22,890
cleaning and maintenance for you.

627
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:24,890
this slide

628
00:35:24,892 --> 00:35:28,896
says the same thing. Wanting the highlights,

629
00:35:28,896 --> 00:35:31,899
you don't have to do upfront capital cost

630
00:35:31,899 --> 00:35:33,901
where traditionally you may have to

631
00:35:33,901 --> 00:35:34,902
do a lot of planning to make a new

632
00:35:34,902 --> 00:35:35,903
public

633
00:35:35,903 --> 00:35:37,871
bathroom, this, you can deploy quickly

634
00:35:37,871 --> 00:35:39,871
because you

635
00:35:39,873 --> 00:35:43,877
don't have to spend the time planning

636
00:35:43,877 --> 00:35:45,877
and digging

637
00:35:45,879 --> 00:35:46,880
and doing the upfront capital that you would

638
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,881
do

639
00:35:47,881 --> 00:35:49,883
in traditional bathrooms, able to

640
00:35:49,883 --> 00:35:50,884
deploy thrones within hours of knowing

641
00:35:50,884 --> 00:35:52,884
where

642
00:35:52,886 --> 00:35:53,887
we will put it and then planning

643
00:35:53,887 --> 00:35:55,889
in advance. Highlights include having

644
00:35:55,889 --> 00:35:57,889
a baby changing

645
00:35:57,891 --> 00:35:58,892
station in which we know parents comment

646
00:35:58,892 --> 00:36:00,892
they appreciate

647
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:04,898
having a clean space to take their child

648
00:36:04,898 --> 00:36:07,898
into the restroom. We are

649
00:36:07,901 --> 00:36:10,301
launching this qr code

650
00:36:10,871 --> 00:36:12,873
integration with our system

651
00:36:12,873 --> 00:36:13,874
that makes it accessible for blind

652
00:36:13,874 --> 00:36:15,874
and low

653
00:36:15,876 --> 00:36:19,476
vision folks coming to all thrones

654
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,881
fleetwide

655
00:36:20,881 --> 00:36:22,883
2026 so we are excited to make it

656
00:36:22,883 --> 00:36:25,883
go beyond what is necessary

657
00:36:25,886 --> 00:36:28,889
to be ada compliant, but even

658
00:36:28,889 --> 00:36:30,891
become more accessible for a larger variety

659
00:36:30,891 --> 00:36:31,892
of folks and we have the option to

660
00:36:31,892 --> 00:36:33,892
add

661
00:36:33,894 --> 00:36:34,895
menstrual product dispensers and sharps

662
00:36:34,895 --> 00:36:37,295
containers and other things

663
00:36:37,898 --> 00:36:39,900
that make ours really accessible

664
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:40,901
for a larger group of audience so this is

665
00:36:40,901 --> 00:36:42,870
a photo

666
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:43,871
of what it might look like out in

667
00:36:43,871 --> 00:36:45,871
the wild.

668
00:36:46,874 --> 00:36:48,874
one of

669
00:36:48,876 --> 00:36:51,879
the things I mentioned was smart cleaning and

670
00:36:51,879 --> 00:36:52,880
the smart cleaning system is designed around

671
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,880
a couple of

672
00:36:55,883 --> 00:36:56,884
different inputs. If we know the throne

673
00:36:56,884 --> 00:36:57,885
has

674
00:36:57,885 --> 00:36:58,886
been used a lot or folks are commenting

675
00:36:58,886 --> 00:37:00,886
the throne was

676
00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:03,891
really dirty, maybe somebody was washing

677
00:37:03,891 --> 00:37:06,894
their hands and they splashed everywhere

678
00:37:06,894 --> 00:37:07,895
where they had thrown the paper towels

679
00:37:07,895 --> 00:37:09,897
to the side rather than putting

680
00:37:09,897 --> 00:37:13,901
it in the bin users give us feedback,

681
00:37:13,901 --> 00:37:16,870
they ask how is the experience with

682
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:19,873
throne today or can they rate cleanliness

683
00:37:19,873 --> 00:37:20,874
so if we start to see that going down

684
00:37:20,874 --> 00:37:22,876
that goes into the algorithm and how

685
00:37:22,876 --> 00:37:24,876
many times has

686
00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:28,279
the throne been used

687
00:37:28,882 --> 00:37:29,883
since the last clean as well as additional

688
00:37:29,883 --> 00:37:30,884
pieces

689
00:37:30,884 --> 00:37:31,885
that go into this formula. That tells

690
00:37:31,885 --> 00:37:34,885
us when do we need

691
00:37:34,888 --> 00:37:35,889
to go out and service the throne proactively

692
00:37:35,889 --> 00:37:37,889
so

693
00:37:37,891 --> 00:37:38,892
we can maintain a really sparkling

694
00:37:38,892 --> 00:37:40,894
service experience for any user who

695
00:37:40,894 --> 00:37:42,894
will use one

696
00:37:43,897 --> 00:37:44,898
so that's what the flow will look

697
00:37:44,898 --> 00:37:45,899
like

698
00:37:45,899 --> 00:37:46,900
a user uses the throne they are asked

699
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,900
how it is

700
00:37:49,870 --> 00:37:52,870
that goes to the algorithm

701
00:37:52,873 --> 00:37:53,874
and you can see the algorithm of the

702
00:37:53,874 --> 00:37:54,875
cleaner who

703
00:37:54,875 --> 00:37:55,876
goes into clean the throne and send

704
00:37:55,876 --> 00:37:58,879
the update saying that it is good

705
00:37:58,879 --> 00:38:00,881
to go. So far

706
00:38:00,881 --> 00:38:01,882
while the throne has been in martinez

707
00:38:01,882 --> 00:38:04,882
here are results to date.

708
00:38:04,885 --> 00:38:07,885
from that cleanliness score that

709
00:38:07,888 --> 00:38:10,288
users are putting in

710
00:38:10,891 --> 00:38:11,892
after use we

711
00:38:11,892 --> 00:38:12,893
have maintained 4.3 out of 5 average

712
00:38:12,893 --> 00:38:13,894
cleanliness score for the duration

713
00:38:13,894 --> 00:38:15,894
of the time

714
00:38:15,896 --> 00:38:16,897
we had the throne which is pretty

715
00:38:16,897 --> 00:38:18,897
good anything

716
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:21,902
over 4 is pretty remarkable. Seems

717
00:38:21,902 --> 00:38:22,903
like folks in martinez have taken

718
00:38:22,903 --> 00:38:24,903
good care of

719
00:38:25,873 --> 00:38:27,875
the throne and see it

720
00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:28,876
as part of their community. We can

721
00:38:28,876 --> 00:38:30,876
tell from

722
00:38:31,879 --> 00:38:32,880
pieces like

723
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,882
there been no instances of vandalism

724
00:38:34,882 --> 00:38:37,885
to the bathroom and we have had

725
00:38:37,885 --> 00:38:39,887
no users with access restricted

726
00:38:39,887 --> 00:38:40,888
due to repeated misuse, to explain that

727
00:38:40,888 --> 00:38:42,888
we

728
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:43,891
have this accountability mechanism built

729
00:38:43,891 --> 00:38:45,891
into the

730
00:38:46,894 --> 00:38:49,894
throne where if you're inside,

731
00:38:49,897 --> 00:38:52,900
your use is tied to a user id attached

732
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:55,300
to your phone number

733
00:38:55,903 --> 00:38:57,871
so it does not tell us natasha is using

734
00:38:57,871 --> 00:39:01,875
the throne but user abc is using the throne

735
00:39:01,875 --> 00:39:04,878
and if the person goes in and misuses

736
00:39:04,878 --> 00:39:06,880
the throne which could mean they

737
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,881
stay past the allotted 10 minute time

738
00:39:07,881 --> 00:39:09,881
period or

739
00:39:10,884 --> 00:39:13,887
their smoking in the throne or doing

740
00:39:13,887 --> 00:39:16,887
something else that can spark

741
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:19,893
a sensor to tell us somebody is misusing it

742
00:39:19,893 --> 00:39:20,894
they will get a warning saying they

743
00:39:20,894 --> 00:39:22,894
have missed used

744
00:39:22,896 --> 00:39:25,896
the throne they are asked

745
00:39:25,899 --> 00:39:27,901
to not do it again

746
00:39:27,901 --> 00:39:28,902
and if they continue to misuse that

747
00:39:28,902 --> 00:39:30,871
they will have access restricted so

748
00:39:30,871 --> 00:39:31,872
that accountability is one of the

749
00:39:31,872 --> 00:39:33,874
ways we make sure folks are

750
00:39:33,874 --> 00:39:37,474
taking care of this shared resource.

751
00:39:37,878 --> 00:39:40,881
in martinez we have had 0% of

752
00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:41,882
total user base be restricted so it

753
00:39:41,882 --> 00:39:43,882
is being well

754
00:39:43,884 --> 00:39:44,885
taken care of it is not being vandalized

755
00:39:44,885 --> 00:39:45,886
and people

756
00:39:45,886 --> 00:39:46,887
having positive experience with how

757
00:39:46,887 --> 00:39:48,887
clean it is.

758
00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:52,290
we also see folks

759
00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:57,930
are not staying past the allotted time

760
00:39:57,898 --> 00:39:59,900
so, in 15 minutes 99.8% of people

761
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:00,901
are leaving

762
00:40:00,901 --> 00:40:02,903
and most people take less than 2 minutes

763
00:40:02,903 --> 00:40:05,873
so it's not a place

764
00:40:05,873 --> 00:40:08,873
that's having any loitering or

765
00:40:08,876 --> 00:40:09,877
any vandalism issues. It has become

766
00:40:09,877 --> 00:40:11,879
a great shared resource and we see

767
00:40:11,879 --> 00:40:13,881
that in the data.

768
00:40:13,881 --> 00:40:14,882
one of the other positive things I

769
00:40:14,882 --> 00:40:16,882
wanted

770
00:40:16,884 --> 00:40:17,885
to highlight is 34% of users have

771
00:40:17,885 --> 00:40:19,885
come

772
00:40:19,887 --> 00:40:20,888
back more than once so this is a testament

773
00:40:20,888 --> 00:40:22,888
to

774
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:24,892
how much this is a community resource,

775
00:40:24,892 --> 00:40:28,492
folks are using it multiple times.

776
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:33,901
last year I want to share copy

777
00:40:33,901 --> 00:40:35,903
and pasted comments directly from users

778
00:40:35,903 --> 00:40:38,872
that they have shared with

779
00:40:38,872 --> 00:40:40,872
us. 1

780
00:40:40,874 --> 00:40:41,875
user uses the throne and asked how

781
00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:43,875
the

782
00:40:43,877 --> 00:40:44,878
expense was if they let us know on

783
00:40:44,878 --> 00:40:46,878
a

784
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,881
scale of 1 to 5 over text they are

785
00:40:47,881 --> 00:40:48,882
asked if

786
00:40:48,882 --> 00:40:50,884
they would like to leave additional

787
00:40:50,884 --> 00:40:51,885
comments about their use.

788
00:40:51,885 --> 00:40:53,887
these are some comments that folks

789
00:40:53,887 --> 00:40:55,887
have shared

790
00:40:56,890 --> 00:40:57,891
and one of

791
00:40:57,891 --> 00:40:58,892
the best ones was amazing expense,

792
00:40:58,892 --> 00:40:59,893
I was panicking for any place for

793
00:40:59,893 --> 00:41:01,893
relief,

794
00:41:02,896 --> 00:41:04,898
this experience blew my mind,

795
00:41:04,898 --> 00:41:07,901
10 out of 10 will be back again probably.

796
00:41:07,901 --> 00:41:08,902
great that folks are going out of

797
00:41:08,902 --> 00:41:10,871
their way to

798
00:41:10,871 --> 00:41:14,471
leave these positive comments and share

799
00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:16,877
their experience back with us

800
00:41:16,877 --> 00:41:17,878
and we want to make sure to share

801
00:41:17,878 --> 00:41:19,878
back with

802
00:41:20,881 --> 00:41:22,881
you all.

803
00:41:26,887 --> 00:41:27,888
I believe this slide up in case anyone

804
00:41:27,888 --> 00:41:28,889
is

805
00:41:28,889 --> 00:41:29,890
reading them but just wanted to pause.

806
00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:30,891
I know that was quick. Does anyone

807
00:41:30,891 --> 00:41:31,892
have

808
00:41:31,892 --> 00:41:32,893
questions or any high-level thoughts

809
00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:34,893
or reactions?

810
00:41:34,895 --> 00:41:35,896
>> all the council microphones are

811
00:41:35,896 --> 00:41:36,897
off, but they are

812
00:41:36,897 --> 00:41:38,899
giggling about it being a magical

813
00:41:38,899 --> 00:41:39,900
place.

814
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:41,902
>> only disneyland is magical.

815
00:41:41,902 --> 00:41:43,871
>> I would like to state for the

816
00:41:43,871 --> 00:41:44,872
record when I have had friends, when

817
00:41:44,872 --> 00:41:46,872
we have

818
00:41:46,874 --> 00:41:47,875
been out and about and they have commented looking

819
00:41:47,875 --> 00:41:50,875
for a restroom or something

820
00:41:50,878 --> 00:41:53,881
and I remind them the throne is there

821
00:41:53,881 --> 00:41:56,884
and they come back and report

822
00:41:56,884 --> 00:41:57,885
that it

823
00:41:57,885 --> 00:41:59,887
was a magical place so that's real

824
00:41:59,887 --> 00:42:02,890
and it's possible that was my

825
00:42:02,890 --> 00:42:04,890
comment. Anyway,

826
00:42:04,892 --> 00:42:05,893
thank you very much for the report

827
00:42:05,893 --> 00:42:06,894
out, that is super

828
00:42:06,894 --> 00:42:08,896
helpful. Really nice to hear that

829
00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:11,296
there have been no

830
00:42:11,899 --> 00:42:14,899
recorded vandalism's because I know

831
00:42:14,902 --> 00:42:17,871
you know this, but we had put a party

832
00:42:17,871 --> 00:42:19,871
or 2 immediately adjacent

833
00:42:20,874 --> 00:42:23,877
to where the throne is located.

834
00:42:23,877 --> 00:42:24,878
it was a burned down,

835
00:42:24,878 --> 00:42:26,880
we constantly had to pay more because

836
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,880
things like

837
00:42:28,882 --> 00:42:29,883
debris and needles and things you

838
00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:30,884
cannot clean were

839
00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:32,886
getting thrown in it. So it was becoming

840
00:42:32,886 --> 00:42:35,286
quite the headache. These

841
00:42:35,889 --> 00:42:38,289
great stats are perfect.

842
00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:41,895
it's exactly what we were going for and

843
00:42:41,895 --> 00:42:42,896
I want to congratulate you and thank

844
00:42:42,896 --> 00:42:43,897
you

845
00:42:43,897 --> 00:42:46,900
and the engineering team. I'm not sure

846
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:47,901
if it was you or someone else who

847
00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:50,301
found this and brought

848
00:42:50,871 --> 00:42:53,874
it to us, someone researched it.

849
00:42:53,874 --> 00:42:56,874
so our chief of police

850
00:42:56,877 --> 00:42:58,879
brought it to us and we were in agreement

851
00:42:58,879 --> 00:42:59,880
that this would be worth the money

852
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,280
because we could get

853
00:43:02,883 --> 00:43:04,885
it out rolling quickly and

854
00:43:04,885 --> 00:43:07,888
we did from the day we improved it

855
00:43:07,888 --> 00:43:08,889
it was up and running in 3 months

856
00:43:08,889 --> 00:43:10,889
or less.

857
00:43:10,891 --> 00:43:11,892
less than 90 days which was amazing.

858
00:43:11,892 --> 00:43:14,292
so it was proof

859
00:43:14,895 --> 00:43:16,895
of concept

860
00:43:16,897 --> 00:43:17,898
that has proven itself and turned

861
00:43:17,898 --> 00:43:19,900
out to be a really good

862
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:23,871
solution. Those are my very positive comments

863
00:43:23,871 --> 00:43:25,873
so thank you, appreciate

864
00:43:25,873 --> 00:43:26,874
it.

865
00:43:26,874 --> 00:43:27,875
>> thank you so much for sharing

866
00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:28,876
that. More than happy to

867
00:43:28,876 --> 00:43:29,877
do additional readouts later if you

868
00:43:29,877 --> 00:43:31,877
want more data

869
00:43:31,879 --> 00:43:32,880
with updates. Thank you all for having

870
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,880
me today

871
00:43:34,882 --> 00:43:35,883
and it was great to get a chance to

872
00:43:35,883 --> 00:43:36,884
join you.

873
00:43:36,884 --> 00:43:38,884
>> before

874
00:43:38,886 --> 00:43:40,888
you go, thank you so much for

875
00:43:40,888 --> 00:43:41,889
the presentation. I appreciate it,

876
00:43:41,889 --> 00:43:43,889
I loved

877
00:43:44,892 --> 00:43:45,893
what you said at the outset which

878
00:43:45,893 --> 00:43:47,893
is we were

879
00:43:47,895 --> 00:43:49,897
the 1st in the bay

880
00:43:49,897 --> 00:43:50,898
so I'm happy to hear that martinez

881
00:43:50,898 --> 00:43:53,298
has won the proverbial

882
00:43:53,901 --> 00:43:55,901
game of thrones

883
00:43:55,903 --> 00:43:56,870
, thank you for that sorry I could

884
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:58,870
not resist.

885
00:43:59,873 --> 00:44:02,876
>> years that if you would like.

886
00:44:02,876 --> 00:44:05,876
>> one quick question for you

887
00:44:05,879 --> 00:44:07,879
which was that

888
00:44:07,881 --> 00:44:08,882
, you know when this concept came

889
00:44:08,882 --> 00:44:10,882
before us

890
00:44:11,885 --> 00:44:12,886
initially we were looking at a couple

891
00:44:12,886 --> 00:44:13,887
of different

892
00:44:13,887 --> 00:44:14,888
models if I am not mistaken. Looking

893
00:44:14,888 --> 00:44:16,888
at the portable

894
00:44:17,891 --> 00:44:19,893
versus one that was permanent

895
00:44:19,893 --> 00:44:23,897
and was the permanent theirs or not?

896
00:44:23,897 --> 00:44:26,897
>> it was a actual build. >>

897
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,903
okay, so that answers that so

898
00:44:29,903 --> 00:44:32,873
thank you. My question was

899
00:44:32,873 --> 00:44:35,273
, do you have like

900
00:44:35,876 --> 00:44:36,877
I don't think there's a way to capture

901
00:44:36,877 --> 00:44:38,877
this

902
00:44:38,879 --> 00:44:40,881
unless people volunteer, but

903
00:44:40,881 --> 00:44:41,882
curious to know the demographics of

904
00:44:41,882 --> 00:44:44,885
the people using it because I

905
00:44:44,885 --> 00:44:45,886
would still venture particularly for

906
00:44:45,886 --> 00:44:47,886
senior citizen

907
00:44:47,888 --> 00:44:49,890
population it might be

908
00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:50,891
a little intimidating because they

909
00:44:50,891 --> 00:44:53,891
are not really familiar with

910
00:44:53,894 --> 00:44:56,294
the scanning and all

911
00:44:56,897 --> 00:44:57,898
that involved so just wondering how

912
00:44:57,898 --> 00:44:59,898
have

913
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:00,901
you worked to address that? Do you

914
00:45:00,901 --> 00:45:02,901
will

915
00:45:02,903 --> 00:45:05,903
send out ambassadors to help?

916
00:45:07,875 --> 00:45:08,876
like for instance we have a big holiday

917
00:45:08,876 --> 00:45:10,878
parade coming up in a couple

918
00:45:10,878 --> 00:45:11,879
weeks and I would imagine it's going

919
00:45:11,879 --> 00:45:14,882
to get used a lot hopefully. In

920
00:45:14,882 --> 00:45:16,884
fact we might need more. I

921
00:45:16,884 --> 00:45:17,885
was wondering do you have thoughts

922
00:45:17,885 --> 00:45:20,885
on that in terms of

923
00:45:20,888 --> 00:45:22,888
you get maybe

924
00:45:22,890 --> 00:45:27,900
the elder population to be comfortable with

925
00:45:27,895 --> 00:45:28,896
the technology?

926
00:45:28,896 --> 00:45:29,897
>> I heard

927
00:45:29,897 --> 00:45:30,898
2 questions and I will answer the

928
00:45:30,898 --> 00:45:32,898
1st, question about

929
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:33,901
if we know anything about demographics

930
00:45:33,901 --> 00:45:35,901
we don't

931
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:38,872
and one of the

932
00:45:38,872 --> 00:45:42,876
rules is don't be creepy so we don't have

933
00:45:42,876 --> 00:45:44,878
a way we don't want to

934
00:45:44,878 --> 00:45:48,882
create a way of knowing anything much about

935
00:45:48,882 --> 00:45:49,883
our users.

936
00:45:49,883 --> 00:45:51,885
we want them to have that privacy

937
00:45:51,885 --> 00:45:52,886
so it's in the

938
00:45:52,886 --> 00:45:54,888
privacy policy where not collecting

939
00:45:54,888 --> 00:45:56,888
that demographic data

940
00:45:56,890 --> 00:46:00,894
so not be able to insert that part.

941
00:46:00,894 --> 00:46:01,895
the question

942
00:46:01,895 --> 00:46:03,897
of making it accessible for the elderly

943
00:46:03,897 --> 00:46:05,899
we have a few ways of entering, so

944
00:46:05,899 --> 00:46:08,902
on the front live a qr code that says

945
00:46:08,902 --> 00:46:09,903
scan to enter that gives you a shortcut

946
00:46:09,903 --> 00:46:11,872
to a text message

947
00:46:11,872 --> 00:46:14,875
when you scan a text message pre-populated

948
00:46:14,875 --> 00:46:15,876
will come up on the phone and you

949
00:46:15,876 --> 00:46:17,876
click send,

950
00:46:18,879 --> 00:46:21,882
we know scanning is the barrier

951
00:46:21,882 --> 00:46:22,883
you're mentioning. Some folks

952
00:46:22,883 --> 00:46:24,885
are little bit less familiar with

953
00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:25,886
how to use the phone

954
00:46:25,886 --> 00:46:27,888
to scan so there is another option

955
00:46:27,888 --> 00:46:29,888
underneath that says

956
00:46:30,891 --> 00:46:33,894
or text this word to this

957
00:46:33,894 --> 00:46:35,896
phone number and the throne

958
00:46:35,896 --> 00:46:36,897
will open. Instead of doing shortcut

959
00:46:36,897 --> 00:46:38,897
through

960
00:46:38,899 --> 00:46:39,900
the scan they can text directly and

961
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:41,900
we find

962
00:46:41,902 --> 00:46:42,903
that makes it a little more accessible

963
00:46:42,903 --> 00:46:44,872
where

964
00:46:44,872 --> 00:46:45,873
some folks may want to scan because

965
00:46:45,873 --> 00:46:47,873
it's faster,

966
00:46:48,876 --> 00:46:50,878
they cannot figure that out

967
00:46:50,878 --> 00:46:51,879
or if the phone is unable to get the

968
00:46:51,879 --> 00:46:52,880
qr

969
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,882
code to work, some people struggle

970
00:46:54,882 --> 00:46:56,884
with that and they

971
00:46:56,884 --> 00:46:57,885
are able to use the text message option.

972
00:46:57,885 --> 00:46:59,885
>>

973
00:47:00,888 --> 00:47:02,890
thank you so much

974
00:47:02,890 --> 00:47:03,891
really helpful to know.

975
00:47:03,891 --> 00:47:04,892
>> question

976
00:47:04,892 --> 00:47:05,893
for the

977
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:06,894
city manager for a short time we were

978
00:47:06,894 --> 00:47:09,894
talking about a 3rd option

979
00:47:09,897 --> 00:47:11,899
of having physical cards

980
00:47:11,899 --> 00:47:15,903
you could use, did we ever roll it out?

981
00:47:15,903 --> 00:47:17,903
>> we did get

982
00:47:18,872 --> 00:47:19,873
some cards. Interesting because this

983
00:47:19,873 --> 00:47:21,873
conversation

984
00:47:21,875 --> 00:47:23,877
about demographic and such that

985
00:47:23,877 --> 00:47:26,877
training either already has occurred

986
00:47:27,881 --> 00:47:28,882
will be scheduled at the senior

987
00:47:28,882 --> 00:47:30,884
center. We are going to do that for

988
00:47:30,884 --> 00:47:32,884
that reason

989
00:47:33,887 --> 00:47:36,890
in case people still see the barrier.

990
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:38,890
but again , trying

991
00:47:38,892 --> 00:47:41,892
to encourage them through education

992
00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:45,899
to use the options available on the throne

993
00:47:45,899 --> 00:47:47,901
with the hopefully distant 3rd the

994
00:47:47,901 --> 00:47:51,501
cards themselves and there's a limited

995
00:47:51,872 --> 00:47:53,872
quantity anyway

996
00:47:54,875 --> 00:47:56,877
it is a finite number. How those will

997
00:47:56,877 --> 00:47:57,878
be distributed is up for discussion

998
00:47:57,878 --> 00:47:58,879
obviously the senior center

999
00:47:58,879 --> 00:48:00,881
is a logical place to host that so

1000
00:48:00,881 --> 00:48:02,883
that is in the works.

1001
00:48:02,883 --> 00:48:06,887
>> I have only ever received one complaint

1002
00:48:06,887 --> 00:48:08,887
because they

1003
00:48:08,889 --> 00:48:09,890
were struggling trying to get in. Otherwise

1004
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:12,290
I have received nothing

1005
00:48:12,893 --> 00:48:13,894
but positive responses and I

1006
00:48:13,894 --> 00:48:15,896
was surprised oftentimes with qr codes there

1007
00:48:15,896 --> 00:48:18,296
is some thinking that

1008
00:48:18,899 --> 00:48:19,900
the phone does but because this will

1009
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,900
prompt

1010
00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:22,903
a pre-populated text message

1011
00:48:22,903 --> 00:48:24,872
it is way simpler and sort of happens

1012
00:48:24,872 --> 00:48:27,875
and you send it and the

1013
00:48:27,875 --> 00:48:30,878
door opens so it becomes more intuitive

1014
00:48:30,878 --> 00:48:33,878
than people might be concerned

1015
00:48:33,881 --> 00:48:36,281
that it would be.

1016
00:48:36,884 --> 00:48:38,886
I have only received

1017
00:48:38,886 --> 00:48:39,887
one has anyone in council received complaints

1018
00:48:39,887 --> 00:48:41,889
or compliments or concerns from the

1019
00:48:41,889 --> 00:48:42,890
public?

1020
00:48:42,890 --> 00:48:45,290
>> complements more than anything.

1021
00:48:45,893 --> 00:48:48,896
were appreciative of the fact we responded

1022
00:48:48,896 --> 00:48:51,899
to the need , the prior set

1023
00:48:51,899 --> 00:48:53,899
up was placing

1024
00:48:53,901 --> 00:48:54,902
undue burden on some downtown businesses

1025
00:48:54,902 --> 00:48:56,902
so they

1026
00:48:56,904 --> 00:48:59,904
very much appreciated. If anything

1027
00:49:00,874 --> 00:49:02,876
I'm glad based on tonight's presentation

1028
00:49:02,876 --> 00:49:03,877
I would love to find ways to see how

1029
00:49:03,877 --> 00:49:06,877
we could bring an additional

1030
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,882
1 at some point down the road

1031
00:49:08,882 --> 00:49:09,883
but given where we are with financial.

1032
00:49:09,883 --> 00:49:11,883
thank

1033
00:49:12,886 --> 00:49:13,887
you.

1034
00:49:13,887 --> 00:49:15,887
>> thank you

1035
00:49:15,889 --> 00:49:18,889
, did you have a question?

1036
00:49:18,892 --> 00:49:19,893
>> I wanted to commend you because

1037
00:49:19,893 --> 00:49:21,893
this

1038
00:49:21,895 --> 00:49:22,896
is amazing. I never thought we would

1039
00:49:22,896 --> 00:49:24,896
get this far

1040
00:49:24,898 --> 00:49:26,900
in and have 0 vandalism so whatever

1041
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:27,901
you're doing holding people accountable

1042
00:49:27,901 --> 00:49:29,901
seems

1043
00:49:30,871 --> 00:49:32,873
to work well I wish you

1044
00:49:32,873 --> 00:49:36,877
would come down take over all parks because

1045
00:49:36,877 --> 00:49:38,877
0 vandalism is amazing

1046
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,882
and I get rave reviews,

1047
00:49:41,882 --> 00:49:42,883
I walked downtown all the time and

1048
00:49:42,883 --> 00:49:44,883
I get

1049
00:49:45,886 --> 00:49:46,887
rave reviews from people down there

1050
00:49:46,887 --> 00:49:48,887
quite often.

1051
00:49:48,889 --> 00:49:51,892
I saw one person struggling to

1052
00:49:51,892 --> 00:49:54,895
get in. And then one of the

1053
00:49:54,895 --> 00:49:55,896
business owners took his time, came

1054
00:49:55,896 --> 00:49:57,896
over and showed

1055
00:49:57,898 --> 00:49:59,898
him the process

1056
00:50:00,901 --> 00:50:05,101
and it worked out wonderful. So yes.

1057
00:50:06,874 --> 00:50:07,875
I am a big fan and thank you.

1058
00:50:07,875 --> 00:50:08,876
>> of

1059
00:50:08,876 --> 00:50:09,877
course, one follow-up comment we

1060
00:50:09,877 --> 00:50:10,878
can see the breakdown of how many

1061
00:50:10,878 --> 00:50:11,879
people are entering via

1062
00:50:11,879 --> 00:50:12,880
the text and how many are entering

1063
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880
via

1064
00:50:15,883 --> 00:50:18,886
the app and martinez overtime has

1065
00:50:18,886 --> 00:50:22,486
moved more toward the app so

1066
00:50:22,890 --> 00:50:23,891
they are 20% of total

1067
00:50:23,891 --> 00:50:25,893
users individual users getting into

1068
00:50:25,893 --> 00:50:27,895
the app so they are starting to

1069
00:50:27,895 --> 00:50:28,896
see this as this is something that

1070
00:50:28,896 --> 00:50:29,897
will

1071
00:50:29,897 --> 00:50:31,899
be here forever and we want to go

1072
00:50:31,899 --> 00:50:33,899
ahead and download

1073
00:50:33,901 --> 00:50:34,902
the app because it's going to make

1074
00:50:34,902 --> 00:50:35,903
it faster for them

1075
00:50:35,903 --> 00:50:37,871
to open. In the app they can click

1076
00:50:37,871 --> 00:50:39,873
one button that says

1077
00:50:39,873 --> 00:50:40,874
begin use and they can walk in and

1078
00:50:40,874 --> 00:50:42,874
we have seen

1079
00:50:43,877 --> 00:50:45,879
that number the percentage

1080
00:50:45,879 --> 00:50:46,880
took up overtime.

1081
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,880
>> that's great.

1082
00:50:49,883 --> 00:50:51,885
>> I did not know there was

1083
00:50:51,885 --> 00:50:54,888
an app and I have been paying attention

1084
00:50:54,888 --> 00:50:55,889
. Thank you so much for joining us

1085
00:50:55,889 --> 00:50:57,889
tonight. Really

1086
00:50:58,892 --> 00:51:00,894
appreciate it. Say hello to

1087
00:51:00,894 --> 00:51:04,898
the gang for us. We saw some of the

1088
00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:05,899
throne

1089
00:51:05,899 --> 00:51:06,900
folks at the conference in long beach

1090
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:07,901
and they give us the spectacular pins

1091
00:51:07,901 --> 00:51:08,902
in

1092
00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:10,871
the shape of thrones and we were wearing

1093
00:51:10,871 --> 00:51:12,871
them and everyone

1094
00:51:12,873 --> 00:51:13,874
was jealous and I'm really sad I forgot

1095
00:51:13,874 --> 00:51:15,874
mine at home.

1096
00:51:15,876 --> 00:51:16,877
>> really cool they create a conversation.

1097
00:51:16,877 --> 00:51:19,277
people ask why do

1098
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,881
you have a throne ?

1099
00:51:20,881 --> 00:51:22,883
>> thank you, have a great evening.

1100
00:51:22,883 --> 00:51:24,883
>> have

1101
00:51:24,885 --> 00:51:25,886
a great one everyone.

1102
00:51:25,886 --> 00:51:27,886
>> all right,

1103
00:51:27,888 --> 00:51:28,889
let's proceed through the agenda,

1104
00:51:28,889 --> 00:51:30,889
I skipped

1105
00:51:31,892 --> 00:51:32,893
public comment so I will

1106
00:51:32,893 --> 00:51:34,895
go back to public comment then back

1107
00:51:34,895 --> 00:51:37,895
to the consent calendar item.

1108
00:51:40,901 --> 00:51:41,902
we

1109
00:51:41,902 --> 00:51:44,872
don't normally take comments on the presentation

1110
00:51:44,872 --> 00:51:45,873
but you are welcome to talk during

1111
00:51:45,873 --> 00:51:46,874
public comment because we're going

1112
00:51:46,874 --> 00:51:48,874
into

1113
00:51:48,876 --> 00:51:49,877
it now so I can call on your 1st.

1114
00:51:49,877 --> 00:51:52,877
okay so I have one

1115
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,883
speaker card and you can step up

1116
00:51:55,883 --> 00:51:57,883
after that. 1st

1117
00:51:58,886 --> 00:52:00,886
up.

1118
00:52:00,888 --> 00:52:01,889
>> hard to follow that last presentation

1119
00:52:01,889 --> 00:52:03,889
but I will

1120
00:52:04,892 --> 00:52:07,892
try. Hello I live in

1121
00:52:07,895 --> 00:52:09,897
pleasant hill I am here to as

1122
00:52:09,897 --> 00:52:11,899
for the councils help with preventable

1123
00:52:11,899 --> 00:52:13,901
public health crisis directly impacting

1124
00:52:13,901 --> 00:52:15,901
the city's district 3

1125
00:52:16,904 --> 00:52:18,872
and a lot more. We need

1126
00:52:18,872 --> 00:52:21,872
help getting unleaded aviation fuel

1127
00:52:22,876 --> 00:52:23,877
into the

1128
00:52:23,877 --> 00:52:25,879
county buchanan field, years after

1129
00:52:25,879 --> 00:52:27,881
other airports offer the widely available

1130
00:52:27,881 --> 00:52:28,882
unleaded fuel, buchanan continues

1131
00:52:28,882 --> 00:52:30,882
to

1132
00:52:31,885 --> 00:52:33,885
only offer

1133
00:52:33,887 --> 00:52:34,888
toxic leaded fuel, each propeller

1134
00:52:34,888 --> 00:52:37,888
plane flying out of concord

1135
00:52:37,891 --> 00:52:38,892
releases an estimated 2.3 teaspoons

1136
00:52:38,892 --> 00:52:40,892
of

1137
00:52:40,894 --> 00:52:43,894
toxic lead dust per hour.

1138
00:52:43,897 --> 00:52:46,297
in 2016 there were over 122,000

1139
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:49,903
takeoffs and landings , that's a lot

1140
00:52:49,903 --> 00:52:52,873
of lead. Flight schools based at

1141
00:52:52,873 --> 00:52:55,273
buchanan burn leaded fuel

1142
00:52:55,876 --> 00:52:56,877
as they do loops around the airfield

1143
00:52:56,877 --> 00:52:57,878
all

1144
00:52:57,878 --> 00:52:58,879
day long every day, our concern needs

1145
00:52:58,879 --> 00:53:01,879
to focus on the counties

1146
00:53:01,882 --> 00:53:03,882
lack of concern.

1147
00:53:03,884 --> 00:53:04,885
please read the airport director's

1148
00:53:04,885 --> 00:53:06,885
county

1149
00:53:06,887 --> 00:53:07,888
website update regarding the transition

1150
00:53:07,888 --> 00:53:09,888
to

1151
00:53:10,891 --> 00:53:13,894
unleaded fuel it states that an

1152
00:53:13,894 --> 00:53:16,897
unleaded option has been on the market

1153
00:53:16,897 --> 00:53:19,897
for the last 6 years and

1154
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:21,900
he added only 68%

1155
00:53:25,873 --> 00:53:27,873
of the

1156
00:53:27,875 --> 00:53:28,876
piston powered planes can use it. He is

1157
00:53:28,876 --> 00:53:30,878
pointing out the failure of the county

1158
00:53:30,878 --> 00:53:31,879
to provide 60% of all propeller planes with an

1159
00:53:31,879 --> 00:53:33,881
unleaded option for the last

1160
00:53:33,881 --> 00:53:34,882
6 years. Shame on them, lead is a

1161
00:53:34,882 --> 00:53:37,282
well-known health risk delaying

1162
00:53:37,885 --> 00:53:40,285
6 years seems criminal what

1163
00:53:40,888 --> 00:53:43,891
can we do? 1st, read about

1164
00:53:43,891 --> 00:53:45,891
san jose's read

1165
00:53:45,893 --> 00:53:46,894
hillview airport horrible results

1166
00:53:46,894 --> 00:53:49,294
from a study in 2020

1167
00:53:49,897 --> 00:53:52,297
on the lead levels

1168
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:55,903
in children's blood, they absorb easily

1169
00:53:55,903 --> 00:53:57,871
and is only causes permanent

1170
00:53:57,871 --> 00:54:00,871
cognitive damage. Next contact supervisor

1171
00:54:01,875 --> 00:54:04,878
preston scales she is aware of the

1172
00:54:04,878 --> 00:54:06,878
health crisis,

1173
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,881
urge her to use community benefit

1174
00:54:07,881 --> 00:54:08,882
award funds to offer incentives to

1175
00:54:08,882 --> 00:54:09,883
pilots so

1176
00:54:09,883 --> 00:54:10,884
they will use unleaded fuel. Next,

1177
00:54:10,884 --> 00:54:12,884
contact supervisor

1178
00:54:13,887 --> 00:54:16,287
john , one of the

1179
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:17,891
reps on the board of the bay area

1180
00:54:17,891 --> 00:54:19,891
air district and

1181
00:54:19,893 --> 00:54:21,895
ask him to get

1182
00:54:21,895 --> 00:54:22,896
blood testing done within a mile and

1183
00:54:22,896 --> 00:54:24,898
a half of the end of the

1184
00:54:24,898 --> 00:54:25,899
runway's of buchanan. In 2021 john

1185
00:54:25,899 --> 00:54:28,299
and the board petitioned

1186
00:54:28,902 --> 00:54:31,872
the state health department to do more

1187
00:54:31,872 --> 00:54:33,874
blood testing at other airports,

1188
00:54:33,874 --> 00:54:34,875
the air board told us it has a lot

1189
00:54:34,875 --> 00:54:37,875
of money from fines. Our

1190
00:54:37,878 --> 00:54:39,880
families need a study

1191
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,881
so they can know the danger and how

1192
00:54:40,881 --> 00:54:42,883
to deal with it.

1193
00:54:42,883 --> 00:54:43,884
I believe there are 7000 kids attending

1194
00:54:43,884 --> 00:54:45,884
school within

1195
00:54:46,887 --> 00:54:47,888
1 1/2

1196
00:54:47,888 --> 00:54:49,890
miles of buchanan, please work to

1197
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:52,893
protect kids from these lead spewing

1198
00:54:52,893 --> 00:54:54,893
flying recreational vehicles.

1199
00:54:55,896 --> 00:54:56,897
thank you.

1200
00:54:56,897 --> 00:54:58,897
>>

1201
00:54:58,899 --> 00:55:01,902
thank you all right. Would you like

1202
00:55:01,902 --> 00:55:04,302
to comment? Come up

1203
00:55:04,872 --> 00:55:05,873
to the microphone, otherwise people

1204
00:55:05,873 --> 00:55:07,873
online cannot

1205
00:55:07,875 --> 00:55:09,875
hear your.

1206
00:55:10,878 --> 00:55:11,879
>> I was going to ask about this throne

1207
00:55:11,879 --> 00:55:12,880
was

1208
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,881
going to keep people from sleeping

1209
00:55:13,881 --> 00:55:17,885
in it? You know at nighttime the homeless

1210
00:55:17,885 --> 00:55:19,885
people or whatever ?

1211
00:55:20,888 --> 00:55:22,888
>> I think

1212
00:55:23,891 --> 00:55:26,291
has natasha hung up

1213
00:55:26,894 --> 00:55:27,895
the phone ? I

1214
00:55:27,895 --> 00:55:28,896
will answer the question and we can

1215
00:55:28,896 --> 00:55:29,897
get more information. Because of the

1216
00:55:29,897 --> 00:55:31,897
way

1217
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:34,900
that the throne

1218
00:55:34,902 --> 00:55:35,903
the way it works the doors automatically

1219
00:55:35,903 --> 00:55:36,904
open

1220
00:55:36,904 --> 00:55:38,872
after a set amount of time so they

1221
00:55:38,872 --> 00:55:41,875
inherently cannot sleep in it because

1222
00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:44,875
I have regular monitoring with

1223
00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:45,879
access, via the phones so

1224
00:55:45,879 --> 00:55:47,881
they are able to know someone is in

1225
00:55:47,881 --> 00:55:49,883
there exceeding the 15 minute limit.

1226
00:55:49,883 --> 00:55:50,884
that was the data she presented.

1227
00:55:50,884 --> 00:55:52,884
>>

1228
00:55:53,887 --> 00:55:55,887
thank you.

1229
00:55:56,890 --> 00:55:59,890
some easier than having her.

1230
00:55:59,893 --> 00:56:00,894
is anyone else in the

1231
00:56:00,894 --> 00:56:02,896
council chambers with public comment

1232
00:56:02,896 --> 00:56:04,896
this evening?

1233
00:56:08,902 --> 00:56:11,302
would you like to?

1234
00:56:11,872 --> 00:56:13,874
are you good? Okay

1235
00:56:13,874 --> 00:56:17,878
all right how about in the virtual audience?

1236
00:56:17,878 --> 00:56:18,879
>> for those attending virtually

1237
00:56:18,879 --> 00:56:23,790
please use the raise hand feature now.

1238
00:56:26,887 --> 00:56:29,287
I have no hands.

1239
00:56:29,890 --> 00:56:30,891
>> all right will come back to

1240
00:56:30,891 --> 00:56:32,893
council, sorry for rearranging the

1241
00:56:32,893 --> 00:56:34,895
agenda as a reminder

1242
00:56:34,895 --> 00:56:38,495
consent calendar we did approve items

1243
00:56:38,899 --> 00:56:40,899
5 through 12 and 14 through 16

1244
00:56:41,902 --> 00:56:42,903
and we pulled item 13 which

1245
00:56:42,903 --> 00:56:46,503
is adopt a resolution approving public

1246
00:56:46,874 --> 00:56:47,875
art application. So I think you pulled

1247
00:56:47,875 --> 00:56:48,876
1st would

1248
00:56:48,876 --> 00:56:49,877
you like to ask your questions?

1249
00:56:49,877 --> 00:56:50,878
>>

1250
00:56:50,878 --> 00:56:52,880
sure, thank you. I don't

1251
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,881
believe I am the only one that wanted

1252
00:56:53,881 --> 00:56:55,881
to pull for

1253
00:56:56,884 --> 00:56:57,885
additional questions.

1254
00:56:57,885 --> 00:56:59,887
I have a couple of questions, the

1255
00:56:59,887 --> 00:57:02,890
1st one has to do with

1256
00:57:02,890 --> 00:57:03,891
staff report there was a mention

1257
00:57:03,891 --> 00:57:05,893
because I know we asked for neighbors

1258
00:57:05,893 --> 00:57:08,896
to be notified and it did indicate

1259
00:57:08,896 --> 00:57:11,296
november 7 there were notices

1260
00:57:11,899 --> 00:57:14,299
distributed to the neighbors

1261
00:57:14,902 --> 00:57:15,903
, that is all that it

1262
00:57:15,903 --> 00:57:17,871
said in the staff report. There was

1263
00:57:17,871 --> 00:57:19,871
not any follow-up

1264
00:57:19,873 --> 00:57:20,874
if anyone had concerns or comments or

1265
00:57:20,874 --> 00:57:22,874
anything like that

1266
00:57:23,877 --> 00:57:25,879
so I was curious if we had

1267
00:57:25,879 --> 00:57:26,880
information along those lines that

1268
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,280
we wanted to hear

1269
00:57:29,883 --> 00:57:31,883
about tonight.

1270
00:57:32,886 --> 00:57:35,286
>> so, in the notices

1271
00:57:35,889 --> 00:57:38,892
we directed people to use the public comment

1272
00:57:38,892 --> 00:57:40,894
when the agenda is posted so we

1273
00:57:40,894 --> 00:57:41,895
did provide information about when

1274
00:57:41,895 --> 00:57:43,895
that would

1275
00:57:44,898 --> 00:57:45,899
be posted and also

1276
00:57:45,899 --> 00:57:47,901
provided my direct contact information

1277
00:57:47,901 --> 00:57:49,901
and I received

1278
00:57:50,871 --> 00:57:52,873
one inquiry on how to submit

1279
00:57:52,873 --> 00:57:53,874
public comment and provided the agenda information

1280
00:57:53,874 --> 00:57:55,874
for

1281
00:57:56,877 --> 00:57:58,877
that person.

1282
00:57:58,879 --> 00:57:59,880
>> okay, thank you. My other questions

1283
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,880
have to

1284
00:58:01,882 --> 00:58:02,883
do with some of the feedback that

1285
00:58:02,883 --> 00:58:04,883
we provided

1286
00:58:05,886 --> 00:58:07,886
in altering

1287
00:58:08,889 --> 00:58:10,889
, somewhat the mural.

1288
00:58:11,892 --> 00:58:13,892
I'm not sure

1289
00:58:14,895 --> 00:58:16,897
what we asked for or what we

1290
00:58:16,897 --> 00:58:17,898
had wanted the artist to consider was

1291
00:58:17,898 --> 00:58:19,898
reflected

1292
00:58:20,901 --> 00:58:23,301
in the new potential

1293
00:58:23,904 --> 00:58:25,873
drawing.

1294
00:58:25,873 --> 00:58:26,874
so I want to point out a couple of

1295
00:58:26,874 --> 00:58:28,874
things. So the

1296
00:58:29,877 --> 00:58:32,880
1st drawing, the original has some beautiful

1297
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,880
little fish along the central

1298
00:58:35,883 --> 00:58:37,883
and that actually

1299
00:58:38,886 --> 00:58:41,889
kind of blends talking about stylistic

1300
00:58:41,889 --> 00:58:44,289
and having everything planned

1301
00:58:44,892 --> 00:58:47,895
the 2nd, the newest one to me

1302
00:58:47,895 --> 00:58:49,895
not really

1303
00:58:50,898 --> 00:58:53,898
conformed to our request to

1304
00:58:53,901 --> 00:58:56,301
have it more stylistic

1305
00:58:56,904 --> 00:58:58,904
content consistent

1306
00:58:59,873 --> 00:59:01,875
that is one of my comments

1307
00:59:01,875 --> 00:59:02,876
and we talked about the silhouette

1308
00:59:02,876 --> 00:59:04,876
figures and we

1309
00:59:05,879 --> 00:59:07,879
were not really

1310
00:59:07,881 --> 00:59:08,882
we wanted something different from

1311
00:59:08,882 --> 00:59:10,882
the silhouettes

1312
00:59:10,884 --> 00:59:11,885
which is the black silhouettes in the

1313
00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:13,885
upper

1314
00:59:14,888 --> 00:59:17,891
right side so those are now , there

1315
00:59:17,891 --> 00:59:18,892
is additional silhouette figures

1316
00:59:18,892 --> 00:59:20,894
and I thought we talked about alternates

1317
00:59:20,894 --> 00:59:22,894
to that.

1318
00:59:22,896 --> 00:59:23,897
and I think there was another comment

1319
00:59:23,897 --> 00:59:25,897
in the staff

1320
00:59:25,899 --> 00:59:29,903
report about the boy on the skateboard

1321
00:59:29,903 --> 00:59:30,904
and that seemed

1322
00:59:30,904 --> 00:59:32,873
to be looking identical. So I'm not

1323
00:59:32,873 --> 00:59:35,273
really sure that this

1324
00:59:35,876 --> 00:59:38,879
rendering reflected what we had asked.

1325
00:59:38,879 --> 00:59:41,882
so I just wanted to kind of put those

1326
00:59:41,882 --> 00:59:44,885
comments out. On the original, the

1327
00:59:44,885 --> 00:59:47,885
girl and all the greenery

1328
00:59:47,888 --> 00:59:50,891
and the water because the water reflects

1329
00:59:50,891 --> 00:59:51,892
the

1330
00:59:51,892 --> 00:59:53,894
straits and the fish I did like that

1331
00:59:53,894 --> 00:59:56,897
I think that is beautiful I don't

1332
00:59:56,897 --> 00:59:58,899
know that I like

1333
00:59:58,899 --> 00:59:59,900
the random flowers and things in the

1334
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:01,900
2nd rendering

1335
01:00:01,902 --> 01:00:04,872
it takes away from the waterfront and

1336
01:00:04,872 --> 01:00:08,472
we wanted to have that reflected.

1337
01:00:08,876 --> 01:00:10,876
those are some

1338
01:00:10,878 --> 01:00:11,879
of my comments. I will let my colleagues

1339
01:00:11,879 --> 01:00:12,880
express their comments.

1340
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880
>> to piggyback

1341
01:00:14,882 --> 01:00:17,882
on your comment regarding the ,

1342
01:00:17,885 --> 01:00:20,885
the figure , the children figures,

1343
01:00:20,888 --> 01:00:23,888
I thought we had said

1344
01:00:23,891 --> 01:00:25,893
to decide if they were going

1345
01:00:25,893 --> 01:00:26,894
to be silhouettes or if they were

1346
01:00:26,894 --> 01:00:28,894
going to

1347
01:00:29,897 --> 01:00:32,297
be lifelike. So, it

1348
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,900
appears from the

1349
01:00:34,902 --> 01:00:35,903
update, that there was no changes

1350
01:00:35,903 --> 01:00:37,903
to the children

1351
01:00:38,872 --> 01:00:40,872
imagery

1352
01:00:41,875 --> 01:00:42,876
there is still the, they are the same

1353
01:00:42,876 --> 01:00:44,876
and

1354
01:00:44,878 --> 01:00:47,881
I thought that was one of the key pieces

1355
01:00:47,881 --> 01:00:50,884
to establish some consistency on the

1356
01:00:50,884 --> 01:00:53,284
visual look of the

1357
01:00:53,887 --> 01:00:56,287
young people. And then,

1358
01:00:56,890 --> 01:00:59,290
I also had the

1359
01:00:59,893 --> 01:01:01,893
question that

1360
01:01:01,895 --> 01:01:03,897
that you brought up in terms of what

1361
01:01:03,897 --> 01:01:04,898
was feedback from

1362
01:01:04,898 --> 01:01:08,498
the surveys so that was addressed

1363
01:01:11,872 --> 01:01:15,876
>> so just want to share we do have

1364
01:01:15,876 --> 01:01:17,878
mce and the artist

1365
01:01:17,878 --> 01:01:20,881
are present at tonight's meeting virtually

1366
01:01:20,881 --> 01:01:24,885
so they can add to the information

1367
01:01:24,885 --> 01:01:25,886
staff is going to share we

1368
01:01:25,886 --> 01:01:27,888
did include in the written staff report

1369
01:01:27,888 --> 01:01:29,888
a table

1370
01:01:29,890 --> 01:01:30,891
which summarize the comments expressed

1371
01:01:30,891 --> 01:01:32,891
by

1372
01:01:33,894 --> 01:01:36,897
the council with a response, in terms

1373
01:01:36,897 --> 01:01:39,897
of how the artist revised

1374
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,900
the mural design.

1375
01:01:42,903 --> 01:01:44,872
the intent of doing that

1376
01:01:44,872 --> 01:01:45,873
was because, there is a couple locations

1377
01:01:45,873 --> 01:01:47,873
where

1378
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:51,879
the changes are ever so subtle. But

1379
01:01:51,879 --> 01:01:54,882
when you have the ability of

1380
01:01:54,882 --> 01:01:55,883
blowing it up and having it more in

1381
01:01:55,883 --> 01:01:57,885
scale with what we will ultimately

1382
01:01:57,885 --> 01:01:58,886
see, those changes are more apparent.

1383
01:01:58,886 --> 01:02:03,686
a good example of that is with the

1384
01:02:03,891 --> 01:02:06,291
boy figure so the

1385
01:02:06,894 --> 01:02:08,894
boy figure how

1386
01:02:09,897 --> 01:02:10,898
the boy is slightly different

1387
01:02:10,898 --> 01:02:12,900
in particular the outline and it is

1388
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:14,900
being revised

1389
01:02:15,903 --> 01:02:16,904
so the outline style

1390
01:02:16,904 --> 01:02:18,872
is more consistent with the outline

1391
01:02:18,872 --> 01:02:21,272
style of the primary

1392
01:02:21,875 --> 01:02:24,875
woman figure in the foreground.

1393
01:02:27,881 --> 01:02:28,882
>> I get that and I look at

1394
01:02:28,882 --> 01:02:30,884
the comments in terms of what we propose

1395
01:02:30,884 --> 01:02:33,887
and what the outcome was but

1396
01:02:33,887 --> 01:02:36,287
I very specifically remember

1397
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:38,890
us making note

1398
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:42,293
determining which style we're

1399
01:02:42,896 --> 01:02:44,896
going to use

1400
01:02:45,899 --> 01:02:47,901
if we're going to make them all looked childlike

1401
01:02:47,901 --> 01:02:50,904
and then the silhouettes should have been

1402
01:02:50,904 --> 01:02:51,872
childlike or if the decision was to

1403
01:02:51,872 --> 01:02:54,272
make them silhouettes and

1404
01:02:54,875 --> 01:02:56,875
make everybody. So

1405
01:02:56,877 --> 01:03:00,881
to the point, it seems like that was

1406
01:03:00,881 --> 01:03:02,881
not addressed

1407
01:03:06,887 --> 01:03:07,888
>>

1408
01:03:07,888 --> 01:03:09,890
I think it may be helpful if we can check

1409
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:11,890
with the artist.

1410
01:03:12,893 --> 01:03:14,893
timothy hahn.

1411
01:03:21,902 --> 01:03:23,902
>>

1412
01:03:24,872 --> 01:03:27,875
tim has been promoted it will take

1413
01:03:27,875 --> 01:03:28,876
a 2nd.

1414
01:03:28,876 --> 01:03:30,876
>>

1415
01:03:30,878 --> 01:03:33,878
hi can you hear me?

1416
01:03:33,881 --> 01:03:35,881
to address that,

1417
01:03:35,883 --> 01:03:39,887
a lot of this has to do with not overwhelming

1418
01:03:39,887 --> 01:03:42,890
the viewer so there is a

1419
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:43,891
visual hierarchy. We want a focal

1420
01:03:43,891 --> 01:03:45,891
point and we

1421
01:03:45,893 --> 01:03:48,896
want it to read we can

1422
01:03:48,896 --> 01:03:50,898
definitely add details, but

1423
01:03:50,898 --> 01:03:53,898
they are intentionally left simple

1424
01:03:54,902 --> 01:03:55,903
so that it does not take

1425
01:03:55,903 --> 01:03:57,871
away from the focal point, the main

1426
01:03:57,871 --> 01:03:59,873
character and the 2nd read

1427
01:03:59,873 --> 01:04:00,874
might be the kid where the flowers

1428
01:04:00,874 --> 01:04:02,874
and the

1429
01:04:03,877 --> 01:04:06,877
3rd or 4th or 5th

1430
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,882
might be the children playing. So

1431
01:04:08,882 --> 01:04:09,883
when it comes down to it I know they

1432
01:04:09,883 --> 01:04:11,883
look like

1433
01:04:11,885 --> 01:04:12,886
silhouettes and we will add detail

1434
01:04:12,886 --> 01:04:14,886
as we do

1435
01:04:14,888 --> 01:04:17,891
that, but a little bit of detail,

1436
01:04:17,891 --> 01:04:21,895
just enough to make it fit but not enough

1437
01:04:21,895 --> 01:04:22,896
to compete with the other things that

1438
01:04:22,896 --> 01:04:24,896
is

1439
01:04:24,898 --> 01:04:25,899
kind of my take.

1440
01:04:25,899 --> 01:04:27,899
>> I appreciate that.

1441
01:04:27,901 --> 01:04:28,902
looking at the children behind the

1442
01:04:28,902 --> 01:04:29,903
young

1443
01:04:29,903 --> 01:04:33,874
man on the skateboard, they look more lifelike.

1444
01:04:33,874 --> 01:04:36,877
have a little more color than

1445
01:04:36,877 --> 01:04:37,878
the silhouette so for me I

1446
01:04:37,878 --> 01:04:39,880
don't think that's going to significantly

1447
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,880
disrupt the imagery

1448
01:04:42,883 --> 01:04:45,883
, but again that was a

1449
01:04:45,886 --> 01:04:48,886
specific ask out of this

1450
01:04:48,889 --> 01:04:51,289
body, in particular if

1451
01:04:51,892 --> 01:04:54,892
you look at , with the

1452
01:04:54,895 --> 01:04:57,895
proposed design , the sunflowers have

1453
01:04:57,898 --> 01:05:00,898
been removed so I do

1454
01:05:00,901 --> 01:05:02,903
not think that making those

1455
01:05:02,903 --> 01:05:05,303
silhouette children consistent with

1456
01:05:05,873 --> 01:05:06,874
the ones behind the skateboarder is

1457
01:05:06,874 --> 01:05:08,874
going

1458
01:05:09,877 --> 01:05:12,277
to materially disturb this

1459
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,880
, this mural.

1460
01:05:15,883 --> 01:05:18,283
>> I understand. Apologize for

1461
01:05:18,886 --> 01:05:19,887
that. I thought you are mainly talking

1462
01:05:19,887 --> 01:05:21,887
about

1463
01:05:21,889 --> 01:05:23,891
the kid on the

1464
01:05:23,891 --> 01:05:24,892
skateboard side and I missed that

1465
01:05:24,892 --> 01:05:25,893
part.

1466
01:05:25,893 --> 01:05:27,893
>> no problem.

1467
01:05:27,895 --> 01:05:30,895
>> can I jump in? Hi

1468
01:05:30,898 --> 01:05:33,898
thank you for clarifying. Is

1469
01:05:33,901 --> 01:05:36,901
it possible to have those

1470
01:05:36,904 --> 01:05:38,872
the black

1471
01:05:38,872 --> 01:05:39,873
silhouettes kind of resemble more

1472
01:05:39,873 --> 01:05:40,874
of the children

1473
01:05:40,874 --> 01:05:42,876
on the bottom left? Is that something you

1474
01:05:42,876 --> 01:05:45,879
could incorporate as a 2nd revision?

1475
01:05:45,879 --> 01:05:48,279
is that something that

1476
01:05:48,882 --> 01:05:50,882
you can do?

1477
01:05:51,885 --> 01:05:54,885
>> yes we can definitely do

1478
01:05:54,888 --> 01:05:56,890
that. Yes. I would love

1479
01:05:56,890 --> 01:05:57,891
to do that on the fly with you guys

1480
01:05:57,891 --> 01:06:00,291
if we get the

1481
01:06:00,894 --> 01:06:03,897
approval and if we could not miss

1482
01:06:03,897 --> 01:06:05,897
another month

1483
01:06:05,899 --> 01:06:06,900
for approvals but yes my answer is

1484
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,300
yes we can definitely

1485
01:06:09,903 --> 01:06:12,873
make that little more detailed

1486
01:06:12,873 --> 01:06:13,874
than it is.

1487
01:06:13,874 --> 01:06:15,874
>> okay thank you.

1488
01:06:15,876 --> 01:06:18,876
before you got promoted onto

1489
01:06:18,879 --> 01:06:22,883
the meeting I had made a comment about

1490
01:06:22,883 --> 01:06:23,884
the fish that

1491
01:06:23,884 --> 01:06:25,886
were in the original drawing and I

1492
01:06:25,886 --> 01:06:28,286
feel like to me

1493
01:06:28,889 --> 01:06:29,890
that is very beautiful

1494
01:06:29,890 --> 01:06:32,893
and elegant and reflects the waterfront

1495
01:06:32,893 --> 01:06:34,895
and the replacement with the flowers

1496
01:06:34,895 --> 01:06:36,895
and other things

1497
01:06:37,898 --> 01:06:38,899
I feel that,

1498
01:06:38,899 --> 01:06:40,901
that actually takes away from the

1499
01:06:40,901 --> 01:06:42,901
center image. It

1500
01:06:43,904 --> 01:06:46,874
is distracting from the center

1501
01:06:46,874 --> 01:06:47,875
image.

1502
01:06:47,875 --> 01:06:48,876
>> can

1503
01:06:48,876 --> 01:06:49,877
I jump in for a 2nd? I did reach out

1504
01:06:49,877 --> 01:06:50,878
to a couple

1505
01:06:50,878 --> 01:06:52,880
members of the public and they were very

1506
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,882
excited and supportive so

1507
01:06:54,882 --> 01:06:57,885
I want to make sure we are not over

1508
01:06:57,885 --> 01:07:00,885
projecting our personal artistic opinions

1509
01:07:00,888 --> 01:07:03,888
on this particular design because

1510
01:07:04,892 --> 01:07:06,894
I think there's a lot of ways

1511
01:07:06,894 --> 01:07:08,896
murals like this can go so just so

1512
01:07:08,896 --> 01:07:10,898
you know your comment now sort of

1513
01:07:10,898 --> 01:07:12,898
negates your comment

1514
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:13,901
so we're back to neutral because she

1515
01:07:13,901 --> 01:07:15,901
was super stoked

1516
01:07:15,903 --> 01:07:16,904
on that.

1517
01:07:16,904 --> 01:07:17,905
>> I would like to say I

1518
01:07:17,905 --> 01:07:18,872
am super

1519
01:07:18,872 --> 01:07:19,873
not stoked and I like the original

1520
01:07:19,873 --> 01:07:22,273
rendering because I think

1521
01:07:22,876 --> 01:07:23,877
it more reflects the waterfront

1522
01:07:23,877 --> 01:07:25,879
and the picture, the blue around the

1523
01:07:25,879 --> 01:07:27,879
center image

1524
01:07:28,882 --> 01:07:31,885
really makes the image stand out

1525
01:07:31,885 --> 01:07:32,886
a little bit

1526
01:07:32,886 --> 01:07:33,887
more from the background and if you

1527
01:07:33,887 --> 01:07:34,888
like the flowers are competing and

1528
01:07:34,888 --> 01:07:35,889
that is I

1529
01:07:35,889 --> 01:07:37,891
guess my personal opinion but I think

1530
01:07:37,891 --> 01:07:40,291
others may share that.

1531
01:07:41,895 --> 01:07:43,897
>> can I ask a clarifying question?

1532
01:07:43,897 --> 01:07:45,897
in regards to

1533
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:48,900
the flowers ,

1534
01:07:49,903 --> 01:07:51,872
if you could please

1535
01:07:51,872 --> 01:07:55,876
transition to the other image. Okay so

1536
01:07:55,876 --> 01:07:58,276
, if you are facing

1537
01:07:58,879 --> 01:08:01,879
the mural , directly down and

1538
01:08:01,882 --> 01:08:03,884
to the right of the primary

1539
01:08:03,884 --> 01:08:04,885
female figure there is the flowers

1540
01:08:04,885 --> 01:08:06,885
there were previously

1541
01:08:07,888 --> 01:08:10,888
so I understand the comment

1542
01:08:10,891 --> 01:08:13,291
in regards to that.

1543
01:08:13,894 --> 01:08:15,896
do you share that same comment

1544
01:08:15,896 --> 01:08:16,897
in regards to how the flowers have

1545
01:08:16,897 --> 01:08:18,897
been added

1546
01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:22,903
underneath text in the lower right-hand

1547
01:08:22,903 --> 01:08:24,872
corner of the image? Or is it

1548
01:08:24,872 --> 01:08:25,873
just the one portion immediately adjacent

1549
01:08:25,873 --> 01:08:27,873
to

1550
01:08:28,876 --> 01:08:30,878
the female figure that you are

1551
01:08:30,878 --> 01:08:31,879
having problems with?

1552
01:08:31,879 --> 01:08:32,880
>> for me is

1553
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,882
the flowers to the

1554
01:08:34,882 --> 01:08:37,282
right of the child.

1555
01:08:37,885 --> 01:08:39,885
and where the 2

1556
01:08:40,888 --> 01:08:41,889
leaves and the fish were.

1557
01:08:41,889 --> 01:08:43,889
>>

1558
01:08:43,891 --> 01:08:46,291
thank you for clarifying.

1559
01:08:46,894 --> 01:08:48,894
>> does anyone have

1560
01:08:48,896 --> 01:08:52,496
any other comments about this, just

1561
01:08:52,900 --> 01:08:53,901
those few?

1562
01:08:53,901 --> 01:08:54,902
>>

1563
01:08:54,902 --> 01:08:55,903
I really appreciate how we brought

1564
01:08:55,903 --> 01:08:57,903
the

1565
01:08:57,905 --> 01:09:01,505
boys and girls club logo forward.

1566
01:09:01,875 --> 01:09:06,675
I think that is wonderful to call out.

1567
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,884
and I really appreciate all the hard work.

1568
01:09:10,884 --> 01:09:12,884
>> if it is

1569
01:09:12,886 --> 01:09:13,887
okay I will open up to public comment

1570
01:09:13,887 --> 01:09:16,287
if we have any

1571
01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:17,891
then we will bring it back anyone

1572
01:09:17,891 --> 01:09:18,892
in

1573
01:09:18,892 --> 01:09:19,893
council chambers wants to comment

1574
01:09:19,893 --> 01:09:22,293
on the art? Yes,

1575
01:09:22,896 --> 01:09:23,897
go ahead.

1576
01:09:23,897 --> 01:09:24,898
>>

1577
01:09:24,898 --> 01:09:25,899
why she the main focal part she's

1578
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:26,900
not a child? The other thing I think

1579
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:28,900
it

1580
01:09:28,902 --> 01:09:30,904
should be more based on the kids that

1581
01:09:30,904 --> 01:09:31,872
actually used to go to the boys and

1582
01:09:31,872 --> 01:09:33,872
girls club that

1583
01:09:34,875 --> 01:09:36,877
went to go play basketball

1584
01:09:36,877 --> 01:09:37,878
and have a good time and get together

1585
01:09:37,878 --> 01:09:40,878
as children. That is what

1586
01:09:40,881 --> 01:09:42,883
should be, the unity of children

1587
01:09:42,883 --> 01:09:43,884
getting together as a focal point

1588
01:09:43,884 --> 01:09:46,284
on the building rather

1589
01:09:46,887 --> 01:09:48,889
than flowers and whatever.

1590
01:09:48,889 --> 01:09:49,890
you have that in the background maybe,

1591
01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:51,890
but the main

1592
01:09:52,893 --> 01:09:55,293
part is the children.

1593
01:09:55,896 --> 01:09:57,896
thank you.

1594
01:09:58,899 --> 01:10:00,899
>> thank you.

1595
01:10:01,902 --> 01:10:03,902
any other comments?

1596
01:10:04,872 --> 01:10:05,873
how about in the

1597
01:10:05,873 --> 01:10:07,875
virtual audience anyone with comments on

1598
01:10:07,875 --> 01:10:08,876
this item?

1599
01:10:08,876 --> 01:10:10,876
>>

1600
01:10:10,878 --> 01:10:14,478
please use the raise hand feature.

1601
01:10:16,884 --> 01:10:18,884
I have no

1602
01:10:19,887 --> 01:10:20,888
hands.

1603
01:10:20,888 --> 01:10:22,890
>> I will bring this back

1604
01:10:22,890 --> 01:10:25,893
to council. I appreciate the comments that

1605
01:10:25,893 --> 01:10:27,895
debbie made. I think what I heard

1606
01:10:27,895 --> 01:10:31,899
was that there is a couple of comments

1607
01:10:31,899 --> 01:10:32,900
we would like to

1608
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:34,902
see incorporated, my preference would

1609
01:10:34,902 --> 01:10:37,905
be to prove this evening so they can

1610
01:10:37,905 --> 01:10:39,873
move forward. Does anyone

1611
01:10:39,873 --> 01:10:40,874
on council have concerns with approving

1612
01:10:40,874 --> 01:10:42,874
while making note

1613
01:10:43,877 --> 01:10:45,877
of the comments?

1614
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,880
>>

1615
01:10:49,883 --> 01:10:51,885
if we approve it, how do we

1616
01:10:51,885 --> 01:10:52,886
have any kind of visual rendering

1617
01:10:52,886 --> 01:10:55,886
of what's going up onto

1618
01:10:55,889 --> 01:10:58,892
the wall of the boys and

1619
01:10:58,892 --> 01:10:59,893
girls club?

1620
01:10:59,893 --> 01:11:01,895
>> well michael did you

1621
01:11:01,895 --> 01:11:02,896
want to respond?

1622
01:11:02,896 --> 01:11:04,896
>> can I recommend

1623
01:11:04,898 --> 01:11:06,900
if there is support from the council

1624
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:07,901
you could designate one member on

1625
01:11:07,901 --> 01:11:10,301
the council that staff

1626
01:11:10,904 --> 01:11:13,874
will share the revised proposal

1627
01:11:13,874 --> 01:11:15,874
in response to

1628
01:11:15,876 --> 01:11:16,877
your specific direction to ensure

1629
01:11:16,877 --> 01:11:19,277
that it is in

1630
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,280
adherence with that direction.

1631
01:11:25,886 --> 01:11:27,886
>>

1632
01:11:28,889 --> 01:11:30,891
this is the most

1633
01:11:30,891 --> 01:11:31,892
comments our council has ever provided

1634
01:11:31,892 --> 01:11:33,894
on any art that has gone up on the

1635
01:11:33,894 --> 01:11:36,897
walls and I think we are overthinking this

1636
01:11:36,897 --> 01:11:37,898
and I don't think we should be providing

1637
01:11:37,898 --> 01:11:40,901
input like that so that is

1638
01:11:40,901 --> 01:11:42,901
my opinion.

1639
01:11:43,904 --> 01:11:44,905
if I am outvoted that's fine if the

1640
01:11:44,905 --> 01:11:45,873
rest of my

1641
01:11:45,873 --> 01:11:46,874
counselor like to have somebody who

1642
01:11:46,874 --> 01:11:47,875
follows us to otherwise every other

1643
01:11:47,875 --> 01:11:48,876
art piece

1644
01:11:48,876 --> 01:11:51,879
we have approved at 75% conceptual level

1645
01:11:51,879 --> 01:11:53,881
and we have entrusted the artist to

1646
01:11:53,881 --> 01:11:55,881
paint it and

1647
01:11:55,883 --> 01:11:57,885
I would like to point out tim has

1648
01:11:57,885 --> 01:11:58,886
been the artist for all the other

1649
01:11:58,886 --> 01:11:59,887
murals and everyone has been okay

1650
01:11:59,887 --> 01:12:01,887
up

1651
01:12:01,889 --> 01:12:02,890
to this point so I'm not super excited

1652
01:12:02,890 --> 01:12:04,890
about

1653
01:12:05,893 --> 01:12:07,893
holding go ahead.

1654
01:12:08,896 --> 01:12:09,897
>> to

1655
01:12:09,897 --> 01:12:11,899
me this is a little different because

1656
01:12:11,899 --> 01:12:13,901
I think there is

1657
01:12:13,901 --> 01:12:14,902
an understanding I had it changed

1658
01:12:14,902 --> 01:12:15,903
last time

1659
01:12:15,903 --> 01:12:19,873
there was a understanding or misunderstanding that

1660
01:12:19,873 --> 01:12:20,874
this had to do with the boys and girls club

1661
01:12:20,874 --> 01:12:21,875
we

1662
01:12:21,875 --> 01:12:23,877
had a speaker talk about that and

1663
01:12:23,877 --> 01:12:24,878
in actuality

1664
01:12:24,878 --> 01:12:28,882
this does not have to do necessarily with

1665
01:12:28,882 --> 01:12:31,885
the boys and girls club this is about

1666
01:12:31,885 --> 01:12:33,887
an energy company talking about the future.

1667
01:12:33,887 --> 01:12:35,889
so it is confusing because when I

1668
01:12:35,889 --> 01:12:37,891
was here I thought it had to do

1669
01:12:37,891 --> 01:12:38,892
with the boys and girls club and had

1670
01:12:38,892 --> 01:12:41,292
the same questions where

1671
01:12:41,895 --> 01:12:42,896
they're not children why does it not

1672
01:12:42,896 --> 01:12:44,898
reflect the boys and girls club so

1673
01:12:44,898 --> 01:12:46,898
I was mistaken

1674
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:47,901
so this is more about the energy company

1675
01:12:47,901 --> 01:12:49,901
and

1676
01:12:50,904 --> 01:12:53,874
and the mce and their vision and

1677
01:12:53,874 --> 01:12:56,877
their future and the vibrancy of

1678
01:12:56,877 --> 01:12:57,878
the company.

1679
01:12:57,878 --> 01:12:58,879
>> I'm sorry.

1680
01:12:58,879 --> 01:12:59,880
mce is the utility company that provides

1681
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,880
energy not

1682
01:13:02,883 --> 01:13:04,883
an arbitrary company

1683
01:13:04,885 --> 01:13:05,886
that has come in.

1684
01:13:05,886 --> 01:13:06,887
>> correct they

1685
01:13:06,887 --> 01:13:07,888
provide energy. It

1686
01:13:07,888 --> 01:13:11,892
is different from a merrill that depicts

1687
01:13:11,892 --> 01:13:14,895
you know the animals on the

1688
01:13:14,895 --> 01:13:16,897
floor and that's not

1689
01:13:16,897 --> 01:13:17,898
very controversial or has any issues

1690
01:13:17,898 --> 01:13:19,898
or

1691
01:13:20,901 --> 01:13:22,903
whatever. To me it is different I

1692
01:13:22,903 --> 01:13:23,904
feel this is different where it is placed

1693
01:13:23,904 --> 01:13:25,904
and

1694
01:13:26,874 --> 01:13:27,875
what they are depicting it

1695
01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:29,877
is a little bit different from the

1696
01:13:29,877 --> 01:13:31,879
other murals that we have had I want

1697
01:13:31,879 --> 01:13:32,880
to make sure that we are all in agreement

1698
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,881
and what

1699
01:13:33,881 --> 01:13:35,883
it is reflecting in the consistency

1700
01:13:35,883 --> 01:13:39,483
in the image across the entirety?

1701
01:13:41,889 --> 01:13:43,889
>>

1702
01:13:44,892 --> 01:13:49,692
thank you does anyone have any other comments?

1703
01:13:53,901 --> 01:13:56,904
>> with a lack of comments would

1704
01:13:56,904 --> 01:13:59,873
anyone be interested in making

1705
01:13:59,873 --> 01:14:01,873
a motion?

1706
01:14:02,876 --> 01:14:05,879
I will make a motion that we approve

1707
01:14:05,879 --> 01:14:07,879
this

1708
01:14:08,882 --> 01:14:11,282
art proposed proposed to

1709
01:14:11,885 --> 01:14:13,885
us sorry. Which

1710
01:14:14,888 --> 01:14:16,888
is item 13

1711
01:14:17,891 --> 01:14:20,291
item 13 on the consent

1712
01:14:20,894 --> 01:14:21,895
calendar.

1713
01:14:21,895 --> 01:14:23,895
>>

1714
01:14:28,902 --> 01:14:29,903
>> does that include the suggestions

1715
01:14:29,903 --> 01:14:31,903
around the children?

1716
01:14:32,873 --> 01:14:34,873
>> I will restate.

1717
01:14:35,876 --> 01:14:36,877
I'm a we adopt

1718
01:14:36,877 --> 01:14:38,879
resolution approving the public art

1719
01:14:38,879 --> 01:14:41,879
application and proposed mural to

1720
01:14:41,882 --> 01:14:44,282
include the recommendation provided

1721
01:14:44,885 --> 01:14:47,888
by council but not requiring it and

1722
01:14:47,888 --> 01:14:49,890
allowing the artist to have

1723
01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:50,891
artistic license with the final design.

1724
01:14:50,891 --> 01:14:52,891
>> 2nd.

1725
01:14:53,894 --> 01:14:57,494
>> all in favor please say aye.

1726
01:14:59,900 --> 01:15:02,300
any opposed any abstaining?

1727
01:15:02,903 --> 01:15:04,903
>> the motion passes.

1728
01:15:05,873 --> 01:15:08,876
>> to put it on the record

1729
01:15:08,876 --> 01:15:09,877
if there is as staff

1730
01:15:09,877 --> 01:15:11,879
determines a more significant departure

1731
01:15:11,879 --> 01:15:12,880
from the direction where the

1732
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,882
recommendations that were provided

1733
01:15:14,882 --> 01:15:16,882
this evening,

1734
01:15:16,884 --> 01:15:20,888
similar to what happened with another mural

1735
01:15:20,888 --> 01:15:21,889
we would bring it back to the

1736
01:15:21,889 --> 01:15:22,890
entire council for consideration.

1737
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:24,890
>>

1738
01:15:26,894 --> 01:15:27,895
thank

1739
01:15:27,895 --> 01:15:29,897
you. Moving on public hearing items

1740
01:15:29,897 --> 01:15:30,898
number 18 I know this is why the rest

1741
01:15:30,898 --> 01:15:31,899
of

1742
01:15:31,899 --> 01:15:32,900
you are here this evening conduct

1743
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:35,900
public hearing and adopt resolution

1744
01:15:35,903 --> 01:15:37,903
adopting the

1745
01:15:38,872 --> 01:15:39,873
marina fee schedule.

1746
01:15:39,873 --> 01:15:40,874
>> we have a

1747
01:15:40,874 --> 01:15:41,875
general business item

1748
01:15:41,875 --> 01:15:42,876
number 17.

1749
01:15:42,876 --> 01:15:43,877
>> sorry I skipped it receive

1750
01:15:43,877 --> 01:15:44,878
update whole discussion provide input

1751
01:15:44,878 --> 01:15:45,879
to staff on the 2526 general fund budget

1752
01:15:45,879 --> 01:15:47,879
and

1753
01:15:47,881 --> 01:15:50,884
cip project list. Thank you, I am

1754
01:15:50,884 --> 01:15:51,885
so sorry.

1755
01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:53,885
>> so tonight

1756
01:15:53,887 --> 01:15:55,889
we will give you a brief

1757
01:15:55,889 --> 01:15:56,890
check in on where we are with the

1758
01:15:56,890 --> 01:15:59,893
budget and where we are with

1759
01:15:59,893 --> 01:16:01,893
capital improvements.

1760
01:16:01,895 --> 01:16:02,896
to lead us in the presentation I will

1761
01:16:02,896 --> 01:16:05,899
turn it over to assistant city manager.

1762
01:16:05,899 --> 01:16:06,900
>> great, thank you. I will try to

1763
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:08,900
keep

1764
01:16:08,902 --> 01:16:11,905
this brief and we have folks for the

1765
01:16:11,905 --> 01:16:13,874
next item so bear with me if I

1766
01:16:13,874 --> 01:16:14,875
talk a little fast. As mike mentioned

1767
01:16:14,875 --> 01:16:16,875
when we adopted

1768
01:16:17,878 --> 01:16:18,879
the annual budget for this fiscal

1769
01:16:18,879 --> 01:16:20,879
year we made

1770
01:16:20,881 --> 01:16:22,883
a commitment to come back to you before

1771
01:16:22,883 --> 01:16:23,884
regularly scheduled midyear review

1772
01:16:23,884 --> 01:16:25,884
in the fall

1773
01:16:26,887 --> 01:16:28,889
to say checking on how we are doing

1774
01:16:28,889 --> 01:16:29,890
for the economic uncertainty that

1775
01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:31,890
we had.

1776
01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:34,893
the information that

1777
01:16:34,895 --> 01:16:35,896
fit into this report is from july

1778
01:16:35,896 --> 01:16:37,896
1 to october 31.

1779
01:16:38,899 --> 01:16:40,899
a little over 1/4.

1780
01:16:41,902 --> 01:16:43,904
junior sitting here next to me,

1781
01:16:43,904 --> 01:16:44,905
in case there is detailed questions,

1782
01:16:44,905 --> 01:16:46,874
we will do our

1783
01:16:46,874 --> 01:16:47,875
best to pull up details on the fly

1784
01:16:47,875 --> 01:16:49,875
, but

1785
01:16:49,877 --> 01:16:50,878
I will give a pretty good check in

1786
01:16:50,878 --> 01:16:52,878
on various

1787
01:16:53,881 --> 01:16:55,883
department budgets that I think

1788
01:16:55,883 --> 01:16:57,885
were of higher interest during the

1789
01:16:57,885 --> 01:16:59,885
budget adoption back

1790
01:17:00,888 --> 01:17:02,890
in june. And as a reminder we

1791
01:17:02,890 --> 01:17:06,894
do have our midyear review which is

1792
01:17:06,894 --> 01:17:09,294
more comprehensive, more detail

1793
01:17:09,897 --> 01:17:11,899
, that's coming up in february.

1794
01:17:11,899 --> 01:17:14,902
so a quick agenda I will provide a

1795
01:17:14,902 --> 01:17:18,872
budget overview sort of where we were

1796
01:17:18,872 --> 01:17:19,873
when we adopted the budget,

1797
01:17:19,873 --> 01:17:21,875
what were the conditions, I will be

1798
01:17:21,875 --> 01:17:23,875
focusing tonight

1799
01:17:23,877 --> 01:17:25,879
progress on the general fund, expenditures

1800
01:17:25,879 --> 01:17:29,883
and revenues. I will give a brief

1801
01:17:29,883 --> 01:17:30,884
marina fund update although I know

1802
01:17:30,884 --> 01:17:31,885
that

1803
01:17:31,885 --> 01:17:33,887
will be the focus of one of the upcoming

1804
01:17:33,887 --> 01:17:36,890
items and then our public works

1805
01:17:36,890 --> 01:17:38,892
director will provide a cip

1806
01:17:38,892 --> 01:17:41,292
update, everything fairly high-level.

1807
01:17:41,895 --> 01:17:45,495
a quick strategic plan alignment, this

1808
01:17:45,899 --> 01:17:48,899
item tonight aligns with goal

1809
01:17:48,902 --> 01:17:49,903
a fiscal around

1810
01:17:49,903 --> 01:17:51,905
financial sustainability. A quick

1811
01:17:51,905 --> 01:17:53,905
budget overview.

1812
01:17:54,875 --> 01:17:56,877
going into this fiscal year

1813
01:17:56,877 --> 01:18:00,881
we had various cost drivers and revenue drivers

1814
01:18:00,881 --> 01:18:01,882
that went into the formation of the

1815
01:18:01,882 --> 01:18:03,884
budget ultimately resulting in a starting

1816
01:18:03,884 --> 01:18:05,884
deficit of $1.5 million

1817
01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:10,891
so I will not go through each

1818
01:18:10,891 --> 01:18:11,892
of these individually, but you may

1819
01:18:11,892 --> 01:18:12,893
recall cost drivers include continued

1820
01:18:12,893 --> 01:18:14,893
increases to

1821
01:18:14,895 --> 01:18:15,896
insurance, continued labor increases

1822
01:18:15,896 --> 01:18:17,896
due

1823
01:18:18,899 --> 01:18:20,901
to cola and step and

1824
01:18:20,901 --> 01:18:23,301
merit increases, unfunded liabilities

1825
01:18:23,904 --> 01:18:24,905
which are said to continue ramping

1826
01:18:24,905 --> 01:18:26,905
up

1827
01:18:27,875 --> 01:18:29,877
starting this fiscal year over the

1828
01:18:29,877 --> 01:18:30,878
next 5 years as well as retiree health

1829
01:18:30,878 --> 01:18:31,879
and

1830
01:18:31,879 --> 01:18:33,881
of course one of our biggest cost

1831
01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:36,881
drivers which is the general

1832
01:18:36,884 --> 01:18:39,884
fund support to the marina

1833
01:18:39,887 --> 01:18:42,890
which has continued to be a subsidy, year-over-year.

1834
01:18:42,890 --> 01:18:44,892
on the revenue side

1835
01:18:44,892 --> 01:18:45,893
as we have reported over a handful

1836
01:18:45,893 --> 01:18:47,893
of years now

1837
01:18:48,896 --> 01:18:50,898
expenses are just rising

1838
01:18:50,898 --> 01:18:54,902
at a pace faster than revenue is increasing.

1839
01:18:54,902 --> 01:18:56,904
so, there has been

1840
01:18:56,904 --> 01:18:57,905
slowing revenue over the last couple

1841
01:18:57,905 --> 01:18:59,873
of years, of

1842
01:18:59,873 --> 01:19:01,875
course we know there's a lot of economic

1843
01:19:01,875 --> 01:19:03,877
uncertainty now we are keeping track

1844
01:19:03,877 --> 01:19:06,877
of so we have budgeted

1845
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,880
underperforming sales tax

1846
01:19:09,883 --> 01:19:10,884
with reduced permit, we budgeted

1847
01:19:10,884 --> 01:19:12,886
for reduced permit and inspection

1848
01:19:12,886 --> 01:19:14,886
revenues although

1849
01:19:14,888 --> 01:19:15,889
I think I have good news tonight about

1850
01:19:15,889 --> 01:19:17,889
that, lower

1851
01:19:18,892 --> 01:19:19,893
interest income

1852
01:19:19,893 --> 01:19:21,893
and lower-than-expected franchise

1853
01:19:21,895 --> 01:19:23,897
fees. So how did we deal with that

1854
01:19:23,897 --> 01:19:26,900
when we were here in june trying to

1855
01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:29,903
figure out how to close the $1.5 million gap?

1856
01:19:29,903 --> 01:19:32,873
all of the departments came together and

1857
01:19:32,873 --> 01:19:35,273
every single department submitted

1858
01:19:35,876 --> 01:19:36,877
budget cuts, I want to remind you

1859
01:19:36,877 --> 01:19:38,877
that there is

1860
01:19:38,879 --> 01:19:41,882
no potential to restore the budget cuts,

1861
01:19:41,882 --> 01:19:44,885
these are ongoing budget cuts that have

1862
01:19:44,885 --> 01:19:47,888
to remain until we figure out more revenue.

1863
01:19:47,888 --> 01:19:48,889
until we find more revenue so budget

1864
01:19:48,889 --> 01:19:50,889
cuts what

1865
01:19:51,892 --> 01:19:53,894
we did was we looked at

1866
01:19:53,894 --> 01:19:54,895
3 year trends across all city departments

1867
01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:56,895
and

1868
01:19:57,898 --> 01:19:59,900
we focused on making sure we could

1869
01:19:59,900 --> 01:20:02,903
maintain baseline services or core services

1870
01:20:02,903 --> 01:20:03,904
and anything that was nice to have

1871
01:20:03,904 --> 01:20:05,904
that could

1872
01:20:06,874 --> 01:20:08,876
be deferred is what we focused

1873
01:20:08,876 --> 01:20:11,876
on reducing. So, in administration

1874
01:20:11,879 --> 01:20:14,882
a lot of this was looking holistically

1875
01:20:14,882 --> 01:20:17,885
at all departments were clean above supplies,

1876
01:20:17,885 --> 01:20:21,485
meeting costs, training, we centralize costs

1877
01:20:21,889 --> 01:20:23,891
to make it more efficient. We took

1878
01:20:23,891 --> 01:20:24,892
a good look at part-time staff, even

1879
01:20:24,892 --> 01:20:26,892
full-time staff when

1880
01:20:27,895 --> 01:20:30,895
we were feeling the vacancies.

1881
01:20:30,898 --> 01:20:34,498
we could achieve budget savings by

1882
01:20:35,903 --> 01:20:36,904
filling a position later in the fiscal year,

1883
01:20:36,904 --> 01:20:37,905
we opted to do that.

1884
01:20:37,905 --> 01:20:39,873
as always we looked at consultants

1885
01:20:39,873 --> 01:20:42,876
and really considered the minimum need

1886
01:20:42,876 --> 01:20:44,878
for the city. So we

1887
01:20:44,878 --> 01:20:47,881
did give up our emergency services contract

1888
01:20:47,881 --> 01:20:48,882
that was under the police department.

1889
01:20:48,882 --> 01:20:50,882
we

1890
01:20:51,885 --> 01:20:54,888
gave up a planning consultant to defer

1891
01:20:54,888 --> 01:20:56,888
short term housing

1892
01:20:57,891 --> 01:21:00,894
and we reduced , for the reduced

1893
01:21:00,894 --> 01:21:03,294
planning on call consultant

1894
01:21:03,897 --> 01:21:06,297
within the planning department.

1895
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:09,900
we also eliminated private security

1896
01:21:09,903 --> 01:21:11,903
at

1897
01:21:11,905 --> 01:21:12,873
the homeless and this was a priority

1898
01:21:12,873 --> 01:21:14,873
robust conversation

1899
01:21:15,876 --> 01:21:18,276
we were dust maintenance

1900
01:21:20,881 --> 01:21:21,882
but it was based on 3 year trends

1901
01:21:21,882 --> 01:21:23,884
we felt good about. In

1902
01:21:23,884 --> 01:21:24,885
light of these budget reductions we

1903
01:21:24,885 --> 01:21:27,285
made if you recall

1904
01:21:27,888 --> 01:21:29,890
we also increased we chose

1905
01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:32,893
to increase city manager contingency budget

1906
01:21:32,893 --> 01:21:33,894
up to 130,000 so the thought was if

1907
01:21:33,894 --> 01:21:36,294
something came up, we

1908
01:21:36,897 --> 01:21:38,899
have some wiggle room we can go to

1909
01:21:38,899 --> 01:21:39,900
the city manager and request it for

1910
01:21:39,900 --> 01:21:41,900
. So,

1911
01:21:42,903 --> 01:21:45,873
a very quick progress report on current

1912
01:21:45,873 --> 01:21:47,875
general fund, this always looks

1913
01:21:47,875 --> 01:21:50,878
pretty stunning after the 1st quarter because

1914
01:21:50,878 --> 01:21:51,879
we always have a lot more expenses

1915
01:21:51,879 --> 01:21:54,279
than we do revenue

1916
01:21:54,882 --> 01:21:56,884
so I want to caution how

1917
01:21:56,884 --> 01:21:57,885
we look at the information. Early

1918
01:21:57,885 --> 01:22:00,888
expenses come in right in july

1919
01:22:00,888 --> 01:22:02,888
which is the

1920
01:22:02,890 --> 01:22:03,891
up from pension and insurance payments,

1921
01:22:03,891 --> 01:22:05,891
large lump-sum payments

1922
01:22:05,893 --> 01:22:08,896
along with all the typical labor costs

1923
01:22:08,896 --> 01:22:09,897
that happen in the 1st several months

1924
01:22:09,897 --> 01:22:12,897
of the fiscal year. And

1925
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:13,901
then on the revenue side while we

1926
01:22:13,901 --> 01:22:15,901
are collecting

1927
01:22:16,904 --> 01:22:19,873
sales tax and franchise fees and

1928
01:22:19,873 --> 01:22:21,873
cannabis fees

1929
01:22:21,875 --> 01:22:22,876
are not collecting property tax. So

1930
01:22:22,876 --> 01:22:23,877
we don't get property

1931
01:22:23,877 --> 01:22:25,879
tax until later so that is why there

1932
01:22:25,879 --> 01:22:27,879
is a significant

1933
01:22:27,881 --> 01:22:28,882
imbalance. On the expenditure side

1934
01:22:28,882 --> 01:22:29,883
I

1935
01:22:29,883 --> 01:22:31,885
will give a quick highlight on some

1936
01:22:31,885 --> 01:22:34,285
of the, how the

1937
01:22:34,888 --> 01:22:36,890
department's are doing, but

1938
01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:39,893
if you look at this slide here we are

1939
01:22:39,893 --> 01:22:40,894
doing fine. We are 41% a budget, we

1940
01:22:40,894 --> 01:22:42,894
don't see any

1941
01:22:42,896 --> 01:22:46,900
red flags, as I mentioned up from

1942
01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:47,901
we spent $7.6

1943
01:22:47,901 --> 01:22:49,903
million toward insurance and pensions in

1944
01:22:49,903 --> 01:22:51,903
july. Our

1945
01:22:51,905 --> 01:22:52,873
operating expenses are tracking with

1946
01:22:52,873 --> 01:22:54,873
budget. There has

1947
01:22:55,876 --> 01:22:58,879
been no impact to core services

1948
01:22:58,879 --> 01:22:59,880
and I was

1949
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,882
telling this to somebody earlier.

1950
01:23:01,882 --> 01:23:02,883
since I have been

1951
01:23:02,883 --> 01:23:04,885
here this is the 1st quarter where

1952
01:23:04,885 --> 01:23:06,885
we have

1953
01:23:06,887 --> 01:23:07,888
not had an emergency. So in the past

1954
01:23:07,888 --> 01:23:09,888
we had

1955
01:23:10,891 --> 01:23:12,893
a mercury spill or the incident

1956
01:23:12,893 --> 01:23:16,897
that occurred where we needed to run high

1957
01:23:16,897 --> 01:23:17,898
on police overtime or

1958
01:23:17,898 --> 01:23:20,898
help with certain department expenses

1959
01:23:21,902 --> 01:23:22,903
and we are tracking just well for once

1960
01:23:22,903 --> 01:23:23,904
, so we're

1961
01:23:23,904 --> 01:23:25,873
happy to hear that. Let me explain

1962
01:23:25,873 --> 01:23:27,873
briefly because

1963
01:23:28,876 --> 01:23:29,877
these items came up in

1964
01:23:29,877 --> 01:23:31,879
the budget process, repair and maintenance,

1965
01:23:31,879 --> 01:23:33,879
we have 52%

1966
01:23:34,882 --> 01:23:37,282
that has been spent

1967
01:23:38,886 --> 01:23:40,888
overall, so far. About $3.2 million

1968
01:23:40,888 --> 01:23:43,891
repair maintenance budget across the city.

1969
01:23:43,891 --> 01:23:44,892
namely what we

1970
01:23:44,892 --> 01:23:46,894
are tracking if there's anything high

1971
01:23:46,894 --> 01:23:48,894
it is

1972
01:23:49,897 --> 01:23:51,899
utilities across the city that

1973
01:23:51,899 --> 01:23:52,900
we have seen that might come in a

1974
01:23:52,900 --> 01:23:54,902
little over budget.'s we will track

1975
01:23:54,902 --> 01:23:55,903
for the midyear and if we have to

1976
01:23:55,903 --> 01:23:57,903
make changes

1977
01:23:58,906 --> 01:24:01,875
down the road we will. I did talk

1978
01:24:01,875 --> 01:24:04,878
to our superintendent and I asked

1979
01:24:04,878 --> 01:24:07,878
his subjective opinion on how

1980
01:24:07,881 --> 01:24:09,883
things are going and again with

1981
01:24:09,883 --> 01:24:12,886
no unforeseen issues that have popped up

1982
01:24:12,886 --> 01:24:13,887
but we know it is early and inclement

1983
01:24:13,887 --> 01:24:15,887
weather

1984
01:24:15,889 --> 01:24:16,890
is coming and that is usually where

1985
01:24:16,890 --> 01:24:19,290
his crew starts to

1986
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:20,894
see the

1987
01:24:20,894 --> 01:24:22,896
unbudgeted and unplanned expenses

1988
01:24:22,896 --> 01:24:25,296
pop up due to

1989
01:24:25,899 --> 01:24:28,902
rain or any other sort of inclement

1990
01:24:28,902 --> 01:24:30,902
weather. Also,

1991
01:24:30,904 --> 01:24:31,905
the pool is something most expenses

1992
01:24:31,905 --> 01:24:33,874
occurred or significant

1993
01:24:33,874 --> 01:24:36,874
portion occurred over the summer.

1994
01:24:37,878 --> 01:24:39,880
that is tracking the budget.

1995
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,883
we expect to be on target and then

1996
01:24:42,883 --> 01:24:43,884
lastly I will mention the city manager

1997
01:24:43,884 --> 01:24:45,884
contingency

1998
01:24:45,886 --> 01:24:49,890
which I said we bolstered we have

1999
01:24:49,890 --> 01:24:51,892
only spent 2500 of that contingency fund

2000
01:24:51,892 --> 01:24:55,492
so everything is looking very good.

2001
01:24:55,896 --> 01:24:57,896
on the

2002
01:24:58,899 --> 01:24:59,900
revenue side, we are 10% of budget

2003
01:24:59,900 --> 01:25:01,900
at

2004
01:25:01,902 --> 01:25:03,902
this point. We

2005
01:25:04,905 --> 01:25:06,874
are sales tax and measure x

2006
01:25:06,874 --> 01:25:07,875
is tracking on target we budgeted

2007
01:25:07,875 --> 01:25:09,875
$9.8 million for the

2008
01:25:10,878 --> 01:25:13,881
whole fiscal year. So far we

2009
01:25:13,881 --> 01:25:14,882
have received $2.1 million.

2010
01:25:14,882 --> 01:25:16,884
mentioned earlier property tax will

2011
01:25:16,884 --> 01:25:19,884
come later. One of the

2012
01:25:19,887 --> 01:25:20,888
, one of the benefits

2013
01:25:20,888 --> 01:25:22,890
that I have seen digging into the

2014
01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:25,290
data as our permit

2015
01:25:25,893 --> 01:25:28,896
and fees which we thought would

2016
01:25:28,896 --> 01:25:30,898
be slowing or low is actually doing

2017
01:25:30,898 --> 01:25:31,899
pretty well so we are ahead of the budget

2018
01:25:31,899 --> 01:25:33,899
on

2019
01:25:34,902 --> 01:25:36,902
permit fees

2020
01:25:36,904 --> 01:25:37,905
and one of the things that jill told

2021
01:25:37,905 --> 01:25:38,906
me could be the reason

2022
01:25:38,906 --> 01:25:40,874
was we have had several significant

2023
01:25:40,874 --> 01:25:42,874
tenant improvement

2024
01:25:42,876 --> 01:25:43,877
projects come through, increased activity

2025
01:25:43,877 --> 01:25:44,878
at

2026
01:25:44,878 --> 01:25:46,880
the refineries with recent submission

2027
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,280
of the river house

2028
01:25:49,883 --> 01:25:52,886
of the housing application which again

2029
01:25:52,886 --> 01:25:55,286
is a pretty significant

2030
01:25:55,889 --> 01:25:56,890
permit fee to be processed

2031
01:25:56,890 --> 01:25:57,891
with 94 additional building permits

2032
01:25:57,891 --> 01:25:58,892
received for the same timeframe than

2033
01:25:58,892 --> 01:26:00,892
last year

2034
01:26:01,895 --> 01:26:04,295
compared to last year.

2035
01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,898
>> can I interrupt?

2036
01:26:07,901 --> 01:26:10,901
you said activities at the

2037
01:26:10,904 --> 01:26:13,874
refineries are we talking about because

2038
01:26:13,874 --> 01:26:15,876
the refinery is not in

2039
01:26:15,876 --> 01:26:16,877
the city so we don't get any permit

2040
01:26:16,877 --> 01:26:18,877
fees or

2041
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:20,881
anything.

2042
01:26:20,881 --> 01:26:21,882
>> a small portion

2043
01:26:21,882 --> 01:26:22,883
of the refinery that does come to

2044
01:26:22,883 --> 01:26:23,884
us with permits.

2045
01:26:23,884 --> 01:26:25,884
>>

2046
01:26:25,886 --> 01:26:26,887
is that what happened last year? We're

2047
01:26:26,887 --> 01:26:28,887
talking

2048
01:26:28,889 --> 01:26:29,890
about the other ones?

2049
01:26:29,890 --> 01:26:31,890
>> this year.

2050
01:26:31,892 --> 01:26:33,892
it would be.

2051
01:26:34,895 --> 01:26:37,898
>> okay I know we will dig

2052
01:26:37,898 --> 01:26:39,900
into the marina a

2053
01:26:39,900 --> 01:26:40,901
little more robustly next. I want

2054
01:26:40,901 --> 01:26:42,901
to note

2055
01:26:43,904 --> 01:26:45,904
we had budgeted $560,000

2056
01:26:46,874 --> 01:26:47,875
to be on loan from the general fund

2057
01:26:47,875 --> 01:26:49,875
to the

2058
01:26:49,877 --> 01:26:51,877
marina fund.

2059
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,883
so far we are at $126,000 or just

2060
01:26:55,883 --> 01:26:57,885
over. That is lower than what

2061
01:26:57,885 --> 01:26:58,886
we budgeted and the reason for that

2062
01:26:58,886 --> 01:27:00,886
is because

2063
01:27:01,889 --> 01:27:03,891
early on in the fiscal year

2064
01:27:03,891 --> 01:27:04,892
f3 was fully staffed so they were

2065
01:27:04,892 --> 01:27:06,892
not operating with

2066
01:27:07,895 --> 01:27:10,898
the budget provided with the number

2067
01:27:10,898 --> 01:27:11,899
of staff. I think it is 3 or 4 people

2068
01:27:11,899 --> 01:27:13,899
in total

2069
01:27:13,901 --> 01:27:15,903
so we do expect

2070
01:27:15,903 --> 01:27:16,904
those expenses to go up. Revenue collected

2071
01:27:16,904 --> 01:27:18,904
over there

2072
01:27:19,873 --> 01:27:21,873
is $90,000,

2073
01:27:22,876 --> 01:27:24,876
expenditures have been $117,000.

2074
01:27:25,879 --> 01:27:28,279
total expenditures at 57% of

2075
01:27:28,882 --> 01:27:31,885
the budget and it is primarily

2076
01:27:31,885 --> 01:27:32,886
due to the labor cost savings as I

2077
01:27:32,886 --> 01:27:34,886
mentioned.

2078
01:27:34,888 --> 01:27:37,891
the net loss is 27,000 now so we

2079
01:27:37,891 --> 01:27:39,893
will continue to track.

2080
01:27:39,893 --> 01:27:40,894
it is early but if we can come in

2081
01:27:40,894 --> 01:27:43,294
under budget on 560,000 we

2082
01:27:43,897 --> 01:27:46,897
will be happy with that.

2083
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:49,900
and before turnover to joe

2084
01:27:49,903 --> 01:27:53,874
a quick reminder we adopted the 5 year

2085
01:27:53,874 --> 01:27:56,877
cip at the same time as

2086
01:27:56,877 --> 01:27:57,878
the budget.

2087
01:27:57,878 --> 01:27:59,880
one small amendment made to the cip

2088
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:00,881
when we adopted it where we

2089
01:28:00,881 --> 01:28:03,881
shifted $50,000 from the downtown plaza

2090
01:28:05,886 --> 01:28:07,888
to the centennial project.

2091
01:28:07,888 --> 01:28:10,891
and then one item I want to mention

2092
01:28:10,891 --> 01:28:14,895
coming up midyear we don't have to

2093
01:28:14,895 --> 01:28:16,897
flush it out tonight, but since

2094
01:28:16,897 --> 01:28:17,898
we do have a waterfront revitalization

2095
01:28:17,898 --> 01:28:19,898
project

2096
01:28:19,900 --> 01:28:23,500
underway which is exploring the amphitheater

2097
01:28:24,905 --> 01:28:26,874
and obviously adding robust activity in

2098
01:28:26,874 --> 01:28:28,874
the area including

2099
01:28:28,876 --> 01:28:32,476
entertainment and retail we are recommending

2100
01:28:33,881 --> 01:28:35,883
an amendment midyear regarding the

2101
01:28:35,883 --> 01:28:37,883
waterfront stage so

2102
01:28:38,886 --> 01:28:39,887
this is the

2103
01:28:39,887 --> 01:28:41,889
budget we have been partnering with

2104
01:28:41,889 --> 01:28:43,889
kiwanis on.

2105
01:28:43,891 --> 01:28:44,892
and a to have a personal conversation

2106
01:28:44,892 --> 01:28:46,892
about this

2107
01:28:46,894 --> 01:28:47,895
it is not make logical sense to build

2108
01:28:47,895 --> 01:28:49,895
a waterfront stage

2109
01:28:49,897 --> 01:28:53,901
when we have a whole project being built

2110
01:28:53,901 --> 01:28:55,903
so what we have

2111
01:28:55,903 --> 01:28:57,905
committed to in the spirit of them

2112
01:28:57,905 --> 01:28:59,873
wanting to partner with us on a project

2113
01:28:59,873 --> 01:29:01,873
will go back

2114
01:29:02,876 --> 01:29:04,878
to the drawing board with them

2115
01:29:04,878 --> 01:29:05,879
in a future discussion to see what

2116
01:29:05,879 --> 01:29:07,879
we can collaborate

2117
01:29:08,882 --> 01:29:11,885
on so I will turn it over

2118
01:29:11,885 --> 01:29:13,885
to joe.

2119
01:29:14,888 --> 01:29:16,888
>> yes. Good evening.

2120
01:29:17,891 --> 01:29:18,892
a quick update

2121
01:29:18,892 --> 01:29:22,492
on some of these completed projects.

2122
01:29:23,897 --> 01:29:26,900
when we started listing them it

2123
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:28,902
became quite a list and covered all phases

2124
01:29:28,902 --> 01:29:31,302
, some highlights were definitely

2125
01:29:32,873 --> 01:29:34,875
the fishing pier long

2126
01:29:34,875 --> 01:29:35,876
awaited with the ribbon-cutting a

2127
01:29:35,876 --> 01:29:37,876
few

2128
01:29:37,878 --> 01:29:40,881
weeks ago. It had been packed almost

2129
01:29:40,881 --> 01:29:43,884
every day from what I have heard.

2130
01:29:43,884 --> 01:29:44,885
the other one I wanted to highlight

2131
01:29:44,885 --> 01:29:46,885
was

2132
01:29:47,888 --> 01:29:50,888
the hydrant maintenance, we serviced

2133
01:29:50,891 --> 01:29:52,891
nearly 1000 fire hydrants

2134
01:29:53,894 --> 01:29:56,894
to confirm that they were

2135
01:29:56,897 --> 01:29:58,897
flowing and functional.

2136
01:29:59,900 --> 01:30:02,900
we did find I believe 3

2137
01:30:02,903 --> 01:30:04,905
that were out of service

2138
01:30:04,905 --> 01:30:08,505
for a couple of reasons typically

2139
01:30:08,876 --> 01:30:11,879
they had been repaired and the valve

2140
01:30:11,879 --> 01:30:13,879
had been reopened.

2141
01:30:17,885 --> 01:30:19,887
if you have been anywhere

2142
01:30:19,887 --> 01:30:20,888
downtown we have completed a huge

2143
01:30:20,888 --> 01:30:22,888
amount of paving,

2144
01:30:23,891 --> 01:30:25,891
alhambra avenue paging.

2145
01:30:26,894 --> 01:30:29,894
we are wrapping up the

2146
01:30:29,897 --> 01:30:32,297
zone 3, the downtown paving

2147
01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:35,903
with a lot of downtown the final

2148
01:30:35,903 --> 01:30:38,303
pieces remaining is striping

2149
01:30:38,906 --> 01:30:41,306
probably about 4 days left

2150
01:30:41,875 --> 01:30:43,875
of striping.

2151
01:30:44,878 --> 01:30:46,878
the zone 3 is

2152
01:30:47,881 --> 01:30:49,881
, or zone 4

2153
01:30:50,884 --> 01:30:53,884
is in design and zone 2

2154
01:30:53,887 --> 01:30:56,287
was completed last summer.

2155
01:30:56,890 --> 01:30:59,893
sidewalk projects , you know we did

2156
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:01,895
the accessibility curb ramps,

2157
01:31:01,895 --> 01:31:04,295
updated the reimbursement program.

2158
01:31:05,899 --> 01:31:07,901
shaving program which we completed

2159
01:31:07,901 --> 01:31:10,901
last year over 900 locations shaped

2160
01:31:11,905 --> 01:31:13,874
and we are about to go out with another project

2161
01:31:13,874 --> 01:31:14,875
and there will be more significant

2162
01:31:14,875 --> 01:31:16,875
this spring.

2163
01:31:17,878 --> 01:31:19,878
sidewalks with

2164
01:31:20,881 --> 01:31:22,881
the gap closure.

2165
01:31:23,884 --> 01:31:25,886
we touched on facilities

2166
01:31:25,886 --> 01:31:30,860
city hall improvements, the roof is completed.

2167
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:35,293
parks , last year both

2168
01:31:35,896 --> 01:31:37,898
sports courts and the

2169
01:31:37,898 --> 01:31:41,498
grand opening of pine meadows park

2170
01:31:44,905 --> 01:31:45,906
with water, water projects had

2171
01:31:45,906 --> 01:31:47,875
extensive water main replacement administered

2172
01:31:47,875 --> 01:31:49,875
to the

2173
01:31:50,878 --> 01:31:51,879
fire hydrants. We

2174
01:31:51,879 --> 01:31:53,881
are about to start construction on

2175
01:31:53,881 --> 01:31:54,882
the next water main project and we

2176
01:31:54,882 --> 01:31:56,882
are wrapping

2177
01:31:56,884 --> 01:31:59,884
up a pump station project

2178
01:31:59,887 --> 01:32:01,889
and then if you have been in

2179
01:32:01,889 --> 01:32:02,890
the downtown the last couple days

2180
01:32:02,890 --> 01:32:05,290
we have finally started

2181
01:32:05,893 --> 01:32:08,293
the long awaited infill

2182
01:32:08,896 --> 01:32:11,296
on parking lot 4. Started

2183
01:32:11,899 --> 01:32:14,899
on monday, depending on the

2184
01:32:14,902 --> 01:32:17,905
weather, they might possibly be completed

2185
01:32:17,905 --> 01:32:19,905
before thanksgiving.

2186
01:32:20,874 --> 01:32:22,874
we

2187
01:32:23,877 --> 01:32:26,880
are close to wrapping up the design phase

2188
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,883
on the parking meter and destination

2189
01:32:29,883 --> 01:32:31,883
sign program

2190
01:32:34,888 --> 01:32:35,889
and we are ready to place the order

2191
01:32:35,889 --> 01:32:38,892
for the downtown bike racks as

2192
01:32:38,892 --> 01:32:41,895
well. So it is moving forward

2193
01:32:41,895 --> 01:32:44,895
I think those were the

2194
01:32:44,898 --> 01:32:47,898
some of the main highlights.

2195
01:32:47,901 --> 01:32:49,903
one of the ones

2196
01:32:49,903 --> 01:32:50,904
we wanted to point out was phase 1

2197
01:32:50,904 --> 01:32:52,904
street trees

2198
01:32:53,874 --> 01:32:55,874
the 150 trees. Unless

2199
01:32:56,877 --> 01:32:59,877
we get weeks of weather

2200
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,880
our contractor

2201
01:33:01,882 --> 01:33:02,883
assures us he can have those completed

2202
01:33:02,883 --> 01:33:05,283
by the end of

2203
01:33:05,886 --> 01:33:06,887
the year.

2204
01:33:06,887 --> 01:33:08,887
>> great.

2205
01:33:14,895 --> 01:33:16,895
>> I know

2206
01:33:16,897 --> 01:33:17,898
we have bounced back and forth but

2207
01:33:17,898 --> 01:33:19,898
I believe it

2208
01:33:20,901 --> 01:33:22,901
was 30 ,

2209
01:33:23,904 --> 01:33:25,904
32, yes.

2210
01:33:26,874 --> 01:33:28,874
>>

2211
01:33:28,876 --> 01:33:29,877
I did not hear you say amtrak elevator,

2212
01:33:29,877 --> 01:33:30,878
but I can see it.

2213
01:33:30,878 --> 01:33:32,878
>>

2214
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,881
I was about to say that is under design

2215
01:33:33,881 --> 01:33:35,881
right

2216
01:33:35,883 --> 01:33:38,883
now and so we have

2217
01:33:38,886 --> 01:33:41,889
a contractor, he has looked at it.

2218
01:33:41,889 --> 01:33:43,891
he has a plan for that

2219
01:33:43,891 --> 01:33:44,892
and we are coordinating security improvements.

2220
01:33:44,892 --> 01:33:46,892
with

2221
01:33:47,895 --> 01:33:50,895
the capital corridor amtrak improvements.

2222
01:33:50,898 --> 01:33:52,898
they have completed

2223
01:33:53,901 --> 01:33:56,904
their bid package and their scheduled

2224
01:33:56,904 --> 01:34:00,874
to go to coverage by next spring.

2225
01:34:00,874 --> 01:34:02,874
>> so, the construction

2226
01:34:03,877 --> 01:34:04,878
to clarify , so the

2227
01:34:04,878 --> 01:34:06,880
amtrak elevator is on us, security

2228
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,880
is on

2229
01:34:09,883 --> 01:34:10,884
them and when

2230
01:34:10,884 --> 01:34:12,886
security improvements are made we

2231
01:34:12,886 --> 01:34:14,886
can move forward.

2232
01:34:15,889 --> 01:34:17,891
>> correct. We are going to do

2233
01:34:17,891 --> 01:34:21,491
some additional security and hardening improvements

2234
01:34:21,895 --> 01:34:24,898
that would be on the city

2235
01:34:24,898 --> 01:34:27,901
to secure some of the , the

2236
01:34:27,901 --> 01:34:28,902
heating and

2237
01:34:28,902 --> 01:34:30,904
ventilation equipment on the platform

2238
01:34:30,904 --> 01:34:32,904
and then some

2239
01:34:33,874 --> 01:34:35,874
of the ,

2240
01:34:35,876 --> 01:34:36,877
securing those so they are not hiding

2241
01:34:36,877 --> 01:34:38,877
in

2242
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,280
hiding spots and then

2243
01:34:42,883 --> 01:34:44,883
lastly one

2244
01:34:45,886 --> 01:34:47,888
of our strategic projects and

2245
01:34:47,888 --> 01:34:51,892
for the 150th our park master plan

2246
01:34:51,892 --> 01:34:54,892
not necessarily cip per se

2247
01:34:54,895 --> 01:34:56,897
but it is one of the key projects and

2248
01:34:56,897 --> 01:35:00,901
you know we are probably one month

2249
01:35:00,901 --> 01:35:01,902
into that . I

2250
01:35:01,902 --> 01:35:03,904
think we had our 4th project team

2251
01:35:03,904 --> 01:35:05,904
meeting

2252
01:35:06,874 --> 01:35:08,876
last week , lauren gave a

2253
01:35:08,876 --> 01:35:11,879
pretty complete update on that last week

2254
01:35:11,879 --> 01:35:12,880
but we will be kicking off a robust

2255
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,880
public

2256
01:35:14,882 --> 01:35:17,882
engagement process right after the

2257
01:35:18,886 --> 01:35:21,286
1st of the year.

2258
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:24,892
>> so just to conclude, next steps 2026

2259
01:35:24,892 --> 01:35:26,892
back to

2260
01:35:27,895 --> 01:35:29,897
budget season for us. January,

2261
01:35:29,897 --> 01:35:32,900
we will be scheduling a budget and

2262
01:35:32,900 --> 01:35:33,901
finance subcommittee meeting. We will

2263
01:35:33,901 --> 01:35:35,901
be

2264
01:35:36,904 --> 01:35:37,905
bringing the

2265
01:35:37,905 --> 01:35:39,873
midyear budget to the finance subcommittee

2266
01:35:39,873 --> 01:35:41,875
before going to city council.

2267
01:35:41,875 --> 01:35:42,876
we will be kicking off fiscal year

2268
01:35:42,876 --> 01:35:44,876
26-27 budget

2269
01:35:45,879 --> 01:35:46,880
development process that

2270
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,882
happens largely at the staff level

2271
01:35:48,882 --> 01:35:50,882
initially before

2272
01:35:50,884 --> 01:35:51,885
we bring conversations to the council.

2273
01:35:51,885 --> 01:35:54,285
in february we will

2274
01:35:54,888 --> 01:35:56,888
bring midyear budget

2275
01:35:56,890 --> 01:35:57,891
and then we will bring the cip amendment

2276
01:35:57,891 --> 01:35:59,891
we spoke about.

2277
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:00,894
in march we will be a little earlier

2278
01:36:00,894 --> 01:36:03,897
but at least by march bringing the

2279
01:36:03,897 --> 01:36:05,899
recreation fee update, so

2280
01:36:05,899 --> 01:36:06,900
debbie hernandez is working now on

2281
01:36:06,900 --> 01:36:08,900
that

2282
01:36:08,902 --> 01:36:09,903
and they are studying all of the various

2283
01:36:09,903 --> 01:36:11,903
user fees

2284
01:36:12,906 --> 01:36:14,875
so they will bring

2285
01:36:14,875 --> 01:36:15,876
recommendation to you on that. April is

2286
01:36:15,876 --> 01:36:17,876
when we typically

2287
01:36:18,879 --> 01:36:21,882
bring the broad city administrative fees

2288
01:36:21,882 --> 01:36:24,282
that we bring annually.

2289
01:36:24,885 --> 01:36:26,887
in april we will have

2290
01:36:26,887 --> 01:36:27,888
a study session, we will update the

2291
01:36:27,888 --> 01:36:29,888
long-range forecast

2292
01:36:32,893 --> 01:36:33,894
and we will want to talk with council

2293
01:36:33,894 --> 01:36:34,895
on fiscal sustainability measures.

2294
01:36:34,895 --> 01:36:36,895
we

2295
01:36:36,897 --> 01:36:39,900
have spoke , we focus a lot on expenditures

2296
01:36:39,900 --> 01:36:40,901
over the last few years pretty much

2297
01:36:40,901 --> 01:36:41,902
we

2298
01:36:41,902 --> 01:36:45,502
have been taking a chopping block

2299
01:36:45,906 --> 01:36:47,875
to a lot of city services and we have

2300
01:36:47,875 --> 01:36:50,878
cut millions out of the budget, but

2301
01:36:50,878 --> 01:36:51,879
we still have no revenue coming in

2302
01:36:51,879 --> 01:36:53,879
so we

2303
01:36:53,881 --> 01:36:57,885
really have to sit down and figure

2304
01:36:57,885 --> 01:36:58,886
that problem out. So june and I were

2305
01:36:58,886 --> 01:36:59,887
talking

2306
01:36:59,887 --> 01:37:02,890
about this today putting a study session together

2307
01:37:02,890 --> 01:37:03,891
to look at all the options on the

2308
01:37:03,891 --> 01:37:05,893
table and get a

2309
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:06,894
sense from the council where you want

2310
01:37:06,894 --> 01:37:09,294
us to further pursue.

2311
01:37:11,899 --> 01:37:12,900
look forward to that, in may we will

2312
01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:14,900
have the fiscal

2313
01:37:14,902 --> 01:37:15,903
year 26-27 budget workshop and june

2314
01:37:15,903 --> 01:37:18,303
is the adoption. That

2315
01:37:18,906 --> 01:37:19,873
concludes our presentation.

2316
01:37:19,873 --> 01:37:21,873
>>

2317
01:37:21,875 --> 01:37:23,877
thank you so much for the presentation.

2318
01:37:23,877 --> 01:37:24,878
the action tonight was to provide

2319
01:37:24,878 --> 01:37:26,878
input and hold

2320
01:37:27,881 --> 01:37:29,883
discussion. Any specific item that

2321
01:37:29,883 --> 01:37:30,884
you would like guidance on or any

2322
01:37:30,884 --> 01:37:32,884
feedback on a

2323
01:37:33,887 --> 01:37:34,888
particular portion?

2324
01:37:34,888 --> 01:37:36,888
>>

2325
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:39,893
so, I think this is more

2326
01:37:39,893 --> 01:37:42,293
of a informational update,

2327
01:37:42,896 --> 01:37:44,898
if you have questions we are happy to

2328
01:37:44,898 --> 01:37:45,899
take them but there is no specific

2329
01:37:45,899 --> 01:37:48,899
area. We are tracking well

2330
01:37:48,902 --> 01:37:49,903
to budget now with no concerns.

2331
01:37:49,903 --> 01:37:51,903
>>

2332
01:37:51,905 --> 01:37:54,875
the only question I have was in

2333
01:37:54,875 --> 01:37:55,876
the staff report talking about park

2334
01:37:55,876 --> 01:37:56,877
maintenance because

2335
01:37:56,877 --> 01:38:00,881
I remember the discussion we have lumped

2336
01:38:00,881 --> 01:38:01,882
the park maintenance budget reduction

2337
01:38:01,882 --> 01:38:03,882
under the city

2338
01:38:03,884 --> 01:38:04,885
manager contingency fund. It read

2339
01:38:04,885 --> 01:38:05,886
in

2340
01:38:05,886 --> 01:38:06,887
the staff report we have reduced park

2341
01:38:06,887 --> 01:38:08,887
maintenance

2342
01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:12,893
so can you clarify if that

2343
01:38:12,893 --> 01:38:15,293
reduction is people related

2344
01:38:15,896 --> 01:38:18,296
and action related or

2345
01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:19,900
things?

2346
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:21,900
>> things,

2347
01:38:21,902 --> 01:38:23,902
we assumed this

2348
01:38:23,904 --> 01:38:24,905
budget assumes all positions filled

2349
01:38:24,905 --> 01:38:26,905
whether it is

2350
01:38:27,875 --> 01:38:30,878
in any department. So it is more

2351
01:38:30,878 --> 01:38:33,278
you know equipment or

2352
01:38:35,883 --> 01:38:36,884
a fence falls over and we need to

2353
01:38:36,884 --> 01:38:39,284
rebuild the fence things

2354
01:38:39,887 --> 01:38:41,889
like that, arborists, tree related things

2355
01:38:41,889 --> 01:38:42,890
and we are pretty, we feel pretty

2356
01:38:42,890 --> 01:38:45,890
good right now that we

2357
01:38:45,893 --> 01:38:49,897
have enough budget to deal with those issues.

2358
01:38:49,897 --> 01:38:51,897
>> great, thank you. >>

2359
01:38:52,900 --> 01:38:54,900
yeah, just

2360
01:38:54,902 --> 01:38:58,906
more of a comment, I really appreciate staff's

2361
01:38:58,906 --> 01:39:00,874
fiscal responsibility.

2362
01:39:00,874 --> 01:39:01,875
you all are doing everything that

2363
01:39:01,875 --> 01:39:03,875
you

2364
01:39:04,878 --> 01:39:06,878
can, given our

2365
01:39:07,881 --> 01:39:10,884
tight budget. This is just more

2366
01:39:10,884 --> 01:39:11,885
of a comment.

2367
01:39:11,885 --> 01:39:13,887
we need to continue to be mindful

2368
01:39:13,887 --> 01:39:15,887
of impacts

2369
01:39:16,890 --> 01:39:19,290
that can trickle down

2370
01:39:19,893 --> 01:39:21,893
, the federal level .

2371
01:39:22,896 --> 01:39:24,898
I know today it

2372
01:39:24,898 --> 01:39:25,899
was just announced and california

2373
01:39:25,899 --> 01:39:26,900
is

2374
01:39:26,900 --> 01:39:28,902
forecasting instead of a $13 billion

2375
01:39:28,902 --> 01:39:30,902
budget deficit

2376
01:39:31,905 --> 01:39:34,875
for next fiscal year, an

2377
01:39:34,875 --> 01:39:36,875
$18 billion budget

2378
01:39:36,877 --> 01:39:37,878
deficit and we know when there is a

2379
01:39:37,878 --> 01:39:39,878
deficit,

2380
01:39:40,881 --> 01:39:42,883
that means more cuts. On

2381
01:39:42,883 --> 01:39:43,884
state programs so we just need to

2382
01:39:43,884 --> 01:39:45,884
be

2383
01:39:46,887 --> 01:39:48,889
mindful because it always has a

2384
01:39:48,889 --> 01:39:51,889
trickle-down approach. So, there are

2385
01:39:52,893 --> 01:39:55,896
a lot of moving parts that are somewhat

2386
01:39:55,896 --> 01:39:57,898
out of our control

2387
01:39:57,898 --> 01:39:58,899
at the state and federal level so

2388
01:39:58,899 --> 01:40:00,899
we need to

2389
01:40:01,902 --> 01:40:03,904
be vigilant and stay close

2390
01:40:03,904 --> 01:40:04,905
to see how some of these things happening

2391
01:40:04,905 --> 01:40:05,906
above our

2392
01:40:05,906 --> 01:40:07,875
head are going to impact us locally.

2393
01:40:07,875 --> 01:40:09,875
great job

2394
01:40:10,878 --> 01:40:12,878
.

2395
01:40:16,884 --> 01:40:19,887
>> I have a question for joe.

2396
01:40:19,887 --> 01:40:21,887
you mentioned

2397
01:40:22,890 --> 01:40:24,892
the hydrant project we have.

2398
01:40:24,892 --> 01:40:25,893
so come early on I think people talked

2399
01:40:25,893 --> 01:40:27,893
about

2400
01:40:28,896 --> 01:40:29,897
the hydrant project

2401
01:40:29,897 --> 01:40:31,899
checking the hydrants could cause

2402
01:40:31,899 --> 01:40:33,901
pressure changes and water leaks.

2403
01:40:33,901 --> 01:40:34,902
have we experienced anything like

2404
01:40:34,902 --> 01:40:36,902
that with

2405
01:40:36,904 --> 01:40:39,907
hydrant checks we have been doing

2406
01:40:39,907 --> 01:40:40,874
as part of the project?

2407
01:40:40,874 --> 01:40:41,875
>> I think

2408
01:40:41,875 --> 01:40:42,876
there is

2409
01:40:42,876 --> 01:40:46,476
a couple complaints of discolored water

2410
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,883
, but it was pretty limited. Actually

2411
01:40:49,883 --> 01:40:52,283
it went pretty smoothly.

2412
01:40:52,886 --> 01:40:53,887
all the way around.

2413
01:40:53,887 --> 01:40:55,887
>>

2414
01:40:55,889 --> 01:40:58,289
okay great to hear. 1

2415
01:40:58,892 --> 01:41:01,892
other question. This is not

2416
01:41:01,895 --> 01:41:03,897
necessarily related, it is related

2417
01:41:03,897 --> 01:41:06,900
to paving. I've got comments about paving

2418
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:07,901
I don't think it was paving on ramps

2419
01:41:07,901 --> 01:41:09,901
to

2420
01:41:10,904 --> 01:41:12,906
highway 4 with that be caltrans?

2421
01:41:12,906 --> 01:41:16,506
>> that is a caltrans project. Long

2422
01:41:16,877 --> 01:41:18,877
and ongoing. Disruptive.

2423
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,280
>> okay I did not

2424
01:41:22,883 --> 01:41:23,884
think it was us, but

2425
01:41:23,884 --> 01:41:25,886
the striping delay has caused people

2426
01:41:25,886 --> 01:41:27,888
a lot of confusion on and off the

2427
01:41:27,888 --> 01:41:30,891
highway. The ramps are not striped

2428
01:41:30,891 --> 01:41:31,892
and it is difficult to know how to

2429
01:41:31,892 --> 01:41:33,892
navigate that

2430
01:41:34,895 --> 01:41:35,896
especially at night and it is dangerous

2431
01:41:35,896 --> 01:41:37,896
and

2432
01:41:37,898 --> 01:41:40,901
I have had some residents talk

2433
01:41:40,901 --> 01:41:43,904
about that thinking the city is responsible.

2434
01:41:43,904 --> 01:41:44,905
I don't know

2435
01:41:44,905 --> 01:41:46,874
if the ramps have been striped already.

2436
01:41:46,874 --> 01:41:49,874
I did experience it too

2437
01:41:49,877 --> 01:41:51,879
so if there is any

2438
01:41:51,879 --> 01:41:52,880
way to speak with them about maybe

2439
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,880
more timely

2440
01:41:55,883 --> 01:41:56,884
striping because it

2441
01:41:56,884 --> 01:41:58,886
is a danger to the residence driving

2442
01:41:58,886 --> 01:41:59,887
in the evening.

2443
01:41:59,887 --> 01:42:01,887
>> we

2444
01:42:01,889 --> 01:42:03,891
can relay those concerns.

2445
01:42:03,891 --> 01:42:04,892
some of the off ramp lower portions

2446
01:42:04,892 --> 01:42:06,892
have the final

2447
01:42:07,895 --> 01:42:09,897
paving have not been striped

2448
01:42:09,897 --> 01:42:10,898
, but as of last week they were put

2449
01:42:10,898 --> 01:42:13,298
in the final layer

2450
01:42:13,901 --> 01:42:15,903
of asphalt on the outside

2451
01:42:15,903 --> 01:42:16,904
lanes and striping would be subsequent

2452
01:42:16,904 --> 01:42:18,904
to that

2453
01:42:19,907 --> 01:42:22,307
in the clear weather.

2454
01:42:22,876 --> 01:42:24,878
>> thank you, if you can relay

2455
01:42:24,878 --> 01:42:28,882
comments to them to try to do this

2456
01:42:28,882 --> 01:42:31,885
more quickly it could cause accidents.

2457
01:42:31,885 --> 01:42:33,887
it may have already caused

2458
01:42:33,887 --> 01:42:34,888
an accident I'm not sure but people

2459
01:42:34,888 --> 01:42:37,888
have been frightened to drive

2460
01:42:37,891 --> 01:42:38,892
on and off the highway in the evening

2461
01:42:38,892 --> 01:42:40,892
>>

2462
01:42:40,894 --> 01:42:43,897
speaking of striping there is a handful

2463
01:42:43,897 --> 01:42:46,900
of downtown paving areas not striped

2464
01:42:46,900 --> 01:42:49,903
and I reached out to you and you

2465
01:42:49,903 --> 01:42:52,906
said in the next couple of weeks

2466
01:42:52,906 --> 01:42:53,874
pending the rain?

2467
01:42:53,874 --> 01:42:55,876
>> we think there is

2468
01:42:55,876 --> 01:42:58,876
3 or 4 days left of striping.

2469
01:42:58,879 --> 01:43:01,279
in the clear weather.

2470
01:43:01,882 --> 01:43:04,282
>> great, better than I

2471
01:43:04,885 --> 01:43:05,886
was thinking.

2472
01:43:05,886 --> 01:43:07,886
>> yeah,

2473
01:43:07,888 --> 01:43:09,888
I echo

2474
01:43:10,891 --> 01:43:12,891
those comments and

2475
01:43:12,893 --> 01:43:13,894
I will speak a little bit more about

2476
01:43:13,894 --> 01:43:16,894
that at the end of

2477
01:43:16,897 --> 01:43:19,297
tonight's meeting. To piggyback

2478
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:22,903
off of what greg said, thank you

2479
01:43:22,903 --> 01:43:25,906
this is very helpful. I think

2480
01:43:25,906 --> 01:43:26,874
it underscores the work that is

2481
01:43:26,874 --> 01:43:28,876
already been undertaken with work

2482
01:43:28,876 --> 01:43:31,276
that is before us.

2483
01:43:31,879 --> 01:43:34,279
appreciate the opportunity to

2484
01:43:34,882 --> 01:43:37,882
provide additional input at the

2485
01:43:37,885 --> 01:43:40,285
appropriate time but everything

2486
01:43:40,888 --> 01:43:42,890
greg says , spot on.

2487
01:43:42,890 --> 01:43:46,894
certain things are within our purview, but

2488
01:43:46,894 --> 01:43:47,895
there's a lot of things not within

2489
01:43:47,895 --> 01:43:49,895
our purview,

2490
01:43:49,897 --> 01:43:51,897
independent factors. Just

2491
01:43:51,899 --> 01:43:52,900
like everybody has household budgets

2492
01:43:52,900 --> 01:43:54,902
there are things you

2493
01:43:54,902 --> 01:43:55,903
can manage and some things you are

2494
01:43:55,903 --> 01:43:58,906
not able to manage and the city is

2495
01:43:58,906 --> 01:44:01,875
no different. So we have got to focus

2496
01:44:01,875 --> 01:44:04,878
on what we can manage. Also

2497
01:44:04,878 --> 01:44:05,879
be able to prepare for some of the

2498
01:44:05,879 --> 01:44:07,879
things that

2499
01:44:07,881 --> 01:44:10,881
might be on the horizon.

2500
01:44:10,884 --> 01:44:13,284
federal economic indicators give

2501
01:44:13,887 --> 01:44:16,890
me a lot of pause and

2502
01:44:16,890 --> 01:44:18,890
then to

2503
01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:20,894
greg's point in terms of the headwinds

2504
01:44:20,894 --> 01:44:21,895
that the

2505
01:44:21,895 --> 01:44:22,896
state is continuing to face as well that

2506
01:44:22,896 --> 01:44:25,896
is all going to have

2507
01:44:25,899 --> 01:44:28,902
impacts on municipalities such as ours

2508
01:44:28,902 --> 01:44:31,902
. To bring it more local

2509
01:44:31,905 --> 01:44:34,875
it really underscores the pressing

2510
01:44:34,875 --> 01:44:35,876
need for us to be able to identify

2511
01:44:35,876 --> 01:44:37,876
the revenue.

2512
01:44:38,879 --> 01:44:41,279
so from my standpoint

2513
01:44:41,882 --> 01:44:43,884
I think oftentimes we

2514
01:44:43,884 --> 01:44:44,885
have seen other jurisdictions there

2515
01:44:44,885 --> 01:44:46,885
has been a

2516
01:44:46,887 --> 01:44:51,870
quick pivot to let's just ask residents

2517
01:44:52,893 --> 01:44:53,894
to pony up more. They go through it

2518
01:44:53,894 --> 01:44:54,895
2 years later and

2519
01:44:54,895 --> 01:44:56,897
say pony up some more and it is a

2520
01:44:56,897 --> 01:44:57,898
never ending cycle and am

2521
01:44:57,898 --> 01:44:59,900
grateful that has not been a practice

2522
01:44:59,900 --> 01:45:01,902
of this city at

2523
01:45:01,902 --> 01:45:05,906
least historically and of the recent council

2524
01:45:05,906 --> 01:45:07,875
and debbie is the

2525
01:45:07,875 --> 01:45:08,876
veteran here. And I really appreciate

2526
01:45:08,876 --> 01:45:10,876
the

2527
01:45:11,879 --> 01:45:14,882
fact that you know we have had a

2528
01:45:14,882 --> 01:45:16,882
fiscally conservative approach

2529
01:45:17,885 --> 01:45:18,886
and are trying to continue to do that,

2530
01:45:18,886 --> 01:45:20,888
but I think it really underscores

2531
01:45:20,888 --> 01:45:22,890
the importance of the discussion

2532
01:45:22,890 --> 01:45:23,891
we are having and we will continue

2533
01:45:23,891 --> 01:45:25,891
to have certainly

2534
01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:26,894
with the community in terms of where

2535
01:45:26,894 --> 01:45:28,894
opportunities

2536
01:45:28,896 --> 01:45:32,900
are to help bring us that revenue.

2537
01:45:32,900 --> 01:45:35,903
so, those are just my thoughts.

2538
01:45:35,903 --> 01:45:38,303
thank you very much.

2539
01:45:38,906 --> 01:45:40,906
>>

2540
01:45:41,875 --> 01:45:44,878
thank you for the update I think

2541
01:45:44,878 --> 01:45:46,880
it is wonderful we have not had

2542
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,884
any big things happen to us. So far.

2543
01:45:50,884 --> 01:45:53,284
winter is coming, so

2544
01:45:53,887 --> 01:45:56,887
I appreciate your hard work.

2545
01:45:56,890 --> 01:45:58,890
>>

2546
01:45:58,892 --> 01:45:59,893
all right I'm going to open up to

2547
01:45:59,893 --> 01:46:00,894
public

2548
01:46:00,894 --> 01:46:02,896
comment. Anyone in the council chambers

2549
01:46:02,896 --> 01:46:04,896
want to provide?

2550
01:46:05,899 --> 01:46:07,899
go ahead, kevin.

2551
01:46:13,874 --> 01:46:16,877
>> kevin, you know we are on the cip

2552
01:46:16,877 --> 01:46:17,878
budget not the marine item, you know

2553
01:46:17,878 --> 01:46:19,878
we

2554
01:46:20,881 --> 01:46:24,481
are on cip not the marina?

2555
01:46:25,886 --> 01:46:26,887
I will call on you when we get to

2556
01:46:26,887 --> 01:46:28,887
the item.

2557
01:46:29,890 --> 01:46:32,890
so sorry. Anyone else on

2558
01:46:32,893 --> 01:46:35,293
the cip and the

2559
01:46:37,898 --> 01:46:41,902
budget update item? He has got flyers.

2560
01:46:41,902 --> 01:46:42,903
this is important. Anyone

2561
01:46:42,903 --> 01:46:44,905
in the virtual audience want to provide

2562
01:46:44,905 --> 01:46:47,875
comment on the cip project list?

2563
01:46:47,875 --> 01:46:50,275
>> please use the race

2564
01:46:50,878 --> 01:46:52,878
hand feature.

2565
01:46:53,881 --> 01:46:55,881
>> I have no

2566
01:46:55,883 --> 01:46:56,884
hands.

2567
01:46:56,884 --> 01:46:57,885
>> thank you for the update,

2568
01:46:57,885 --> 01:46:59,885
since

2569
01:46:59,887 --> 01:47:02,890
there is nothing to vote on

2570
01:47:02,890 --> 01:47:03,891
it was a good conversation thank you.

2571
01:47:03,891 --> 01:47:04,892
moving

2572
01:47:04,892 --> 01:47:05,893
on public hearing item 18. Conduct

2573
01:47:05,893 --> 01:47:07,893
public hearing

2574
01:47:07,895 --> 01:47:08,896
and adopt resolution amending the

2575
01:47:08,896 --> 01:47:10,896
marina fee schedule

2576
01:47:11,899 --> 01:47:13,901
related to mooring utility and

2577
01:47:13,901 --> 01:47:17,501
fees. Who will be presenting tonight?

2578
01:47:17,905 --> 01:47:18,906
jill? Go ahead.

2579
01:47:18,906 --> 01:47:20,874
>>

2580
01:47:20,874 --> 01:47:23,274
put the presentation on.

2581
01:47:38,892 --> 01:47:40,892
great.

2582
01:47:41,895 --> 01:47:44,295
are you walking out?

2583
01:47:44,898 --> 01:47:46,898
okay.

2584
01:47:49,903 --> 01:47:50,904
thank you mayor and council members.

2585
01:47:50,904 --> 01:47:53,304
tonight we are here

2586
01:47:53,874 --> 01:47:54,875
to discuss the

2587
01:47:54,875 --> 01:47:56,877
marina fee schedule and recommendation

2588
01:47:56,877 --> 01:47:58,879
to adopt resolution amending

2589
01:47:58,879 --> 01:47:59,880
the marina fee schedule related to

2590
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:01,880
mooring

2591
01:48:02,883 --> 01:48:05,883
utilities and liver board fees.

2592
01:48:05,886 --> 01:48:08,886
a brief update how this

2593
01:48:08,889 --> 01:48:11,892
particular item aligns with strategic plan

2594
01:48:11,892 --> 01:48:13,892
and

2595
01:48:13,894 --> 01:48:14,895
that is under the goal of fiscal sustainability

2596
01:48:14,895 --> 01:48:16,895
promoting financial health

2597
01:48:16,897 --> 01:48:17,898
through long-term planning responsible

2598
01:48:17,898 --> 01:48:19,898
budgeting,

2599
01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:20,901
cost recovery which is what we are

2600
01:48:20,901 --> 01:48:22,901
here tonight

2601
01:48:23,904 --> 01:48:25,904
and increased

2602
01:48:25,906 --> 01:48:26,907
awareness. To provide a little background,

2603
01:48:26,907 --> 01:48:27,875
in october awareness. To provide a

2604
01:48:27,875 --> 01:48:28,876
little background, in

2605
01:48:28,876 --> 01:48:31,876
october 2024, the staff brought forward

2606
01:48:31,879 --> 01:48:32,880
the similar item to have a discussion

2607
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,882
about increasing the fees

2608
01:48:34,882 --> 01:48:38,482
after our marina operator had left

2609
01:48:38,886 --> 01:48:39,887
and we were in the process of taking over

2610
01:48:39,887 --> 01:48:40,888
the

2611
01:48:40,888 --> 01:48:41,889
marina. It was identified the fees

2612
01:48:41,889 --> 01:48:43,889
were not

2613
01:48:44,892 --> 01:48:46,894
demonstrated full cost recovery

2614
01:48:46,894 --> 01:48:50,494
or getting close to cost recovery

2615
01:48:50,898 --> 01:48:52,900
at the time council

2616
01:48:52,900 --> 01:48:53,901
provided direction so after hearing

2617
01:48:53,901 --> 01:48:55,901
from the community

2618
01:48:56,904 --> 01:48:57,905
they wanted to wait

2619
01:48:57,905 --> 01:48:59,907
until improvements had been made to

2620
01:48:59,907 --> 01:49:01,875
the marina as well as

2621
01:49:01,875 --> 01:49:02,876
having staff research a little bit

2622
01:49:02,876 --> 01:49:04,876
further about a

2623
01:49:05,879 --> 01:49:08,882
water leak as to why we're using so

2624
01:49:08,882 --> 01:49:10,884
much water at the time.

2625
01:49:10,884 --> 01:49:11,885
since then the water leak has been

2626
01:49:11,885 --> 01:49:13,885
resolved, this was

2627
01:49:14,888 --> 01:49:16,890
a main underneath the ramp

2628
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:17,891
that has been corrected and fixed.

2629
01:49:17,891 --> 01:49:19,891
as

2630
01:49:20,894 --> 01:49:21,895
well as the city, in january the city,

2631
01:49:21,895 --> 01:49:23,895
in january

2632
01:49:23,897 --> 01:49:26,897
2025 brought on f3, to manage

2633
01:49:26,900 --> 01:49:27,901
the marina. Since they have arrived

2634
01:49:27,901 --> 01:49:29,901
they

2635
01:49:29,903 --> 01:49:32,906
have done incredible amount of improvements

2636
01:49:32,906 --> 01:49:34,875
and enhancements.

2637
01:49:34,875 --> 01:49:35,876
everything related to safety lighting

2638
01:49:35,876 --> 01:49:37,876
security, painting, they

2639
01:49:37,878 --> 01:49:38,879
have done a lot of repairs to docs,

2640
01:49:38,879 --> 01:49:40,879
building ramps

2641
01:49:40,881 --> 01:49:41,882
to get infrastructure out of the water

2642
01:49:41,882 --> 01:49:43,882
so boaters

2643
01:49:44,885 --> 01:49:45,886
can get to the vessels during the

2644
01:49:45,886 --> 01:49:47,886
day

2645
01:49:47,888 --> 01:49:48,889
related to the tides moving up and

2646
01:49:48,889 --> 01:49:49,890
down as well

2647
01:49:49,890 --> 01:49:52,290
as overall operational managements

2648
01:49:53,894 --> 01:49:56,894
and maintenance and so forth.

2649
01:49:56,897 --> 01:49:58,899
october of this year

2650
01:49:58,899 --> 01:49:59,900
we brought this item to the marina

2651
01:49:59,900 --> 01:50:01,900
and waterfront

2652
01:50:02,903 --> 01:50:05,906
subcommittee and had a hearty discussion

2653
01:50:05,906 --> 01:50:08,876
which we will talk about. Additionally

2654
01:50:08,876 --> 01:50:11,876
following off the previous presentation

2655
01:50:11,879 --> 01:50:14,279
, the marina has long-standing

2656
01:50:16,884 --> 01:50:17,885
deficits because we talked about the

2657
01:50:17,885 --> 01:50:20,885
$560,000 loan that was made and

2658
01:50:20,888 --> 01:50:23,888
it is projected we may

2659
01:50:23,891 --> 01:50:25,891
be around 650

2660
01:50:26,894 --> 01:50:29,897
in loans moving forward creating a compromise

2661
01:50:29,897 --> 01:50:32,897
on the city's future reserves.

2662
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:34,902
at this time I will turn

2663
01:50:34,902 --> 01:50:35,903
it over to talk a little bit more

2664
01:50:35,903 --> 01:50:37,903
about the

2665
01:50:38,906 --> 01:50:39,907
financial aspect.

2666
01:50:39,907 --> 01:50:41,875
>> sure,

2667
01:50:41,875 --> 01:50:43,875
so what is

2668
01:50:43,877 --> 01:50:44,878
up on the screen is the long-range

2669
01:50:44,878 --> 01:50:46,878
forecast done

2670
01:50:47,881 --> 01:50:48,882
in may or june of the last year and

2671
01:50:48,882 --> 01:50:50,882
this

2672
01:50:50,884 --> 01:50:52,886
scenario assumes an ongoing

2673
01:50:52,886 --> 01:50:53,887
subsidy from the general fund, to

2674
01:50:53,887 --> 01:50:55,887
the marina.

2675
01:50:56,890 --> 01:50:59,890
on an ongoing basis, something

2676
01:50:59,893 --> 01:51:01,895
we have decided to do

2677
01:51:01,895 --> 01:51:04,898
as a council and city organization

2678
01:51:04,898 --> 01:51:05,899
is start planning for the next 5 to

2679
01:51:05,899 --> 01:51:07,899
10 years making sure

2680
01:51:07,901 --> 01:51:10,904
we are being responsible today and understanding

2681
01:51:10,904 --> 01:51:13,904
what the long-term liabilities are

2682
01:51:15,876 --> 01:51:16,877
on the city's general funds

2683
01:51:16,877 --> 01:51:18,879
so this is what the picture depicts

2684
01:51:18,879 --> 01:51:20,881
for your. As mentioned, the

2685
01:51:20,881 --> 01:51:23,884
marina enterprise fund has had a long-standing

2686
01:51:23,884 --> 01:51:25,886
structural deficit. We brought on

2687
01:51:25,886 --> 01:51:27,888
f3, they have done a fabulous job

2688
01:51:27,888 --> 01:51:30,888
from everything we have heard

2689
01:51:30,891 --> 01:51:31,892
and seen, but now we

2690
01:51:31,892 --> 01:51:33,894
are paying for that, things are getting

2691
01:51:33,894 --> 01:51:36,897
fixed. We have more employees at

2692
01:51:36,897 --> 01:51:37,898
the marina. Like

2693
01:51:37,898 --> 01:51:39,900
I said earlier we are coming under

2694
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:41,900
budget right now

2695
01:51:41,902 --> 01:51:42,903
but it is something we assume is going

2696
01:51:42,903 --> 01:51:44,903
to continue

2697
01:51:44,905 --> 01:51:45,906
to be of high cost on the city. Since

2698
01:51:45,906 --> 01:51:47,906
fiscal

2699
01:51:48,876 --> 01:51:50,878
year 21 -22 the general fund

2700
01:51:50,878 --> 01:51:51,879
, there has been $2 million general

2701
01:51:51,879 --> 01:51:53,879
fund

2702
01:51:53,881 --> 01:51:54,882
reserves spent toward the marina 's

2703
01:51:54,882 --> 01:51:55,883
we

2704
01:51:55,883 --> 01:51:57,885
are trying to be careful. We want

2705
01:51:57,885 --> 01:51:59,885
to meet

2706
01:51:59,887 --> 01:52:00,888
the reserve target, we are nervous

2707
01:52:00,888 --> 01:52:02,888
about the next

2708
01:52:03,891 --> 01:52:05,893
few years so in order to sort of maintain

2709
01:52:05,893 --> 01:52:09,897
status quo with the subsidy to the marina,

2710
01:52:09,897 --> 01:52:11,897
which includes the

2711
01:52:11,899 --> 01:52:14,902
loan to the state, the utility cost and

2712
01:52:14,902 --> 01:52:18,906
f3 operation costs we are looking at

2713
01:52:18,906 --> 01:52:20,874
needing $1.2 million

2714
01:52:20,874 --> 01:52:24,878
in a new ongoing budget with budget cuts

2715
01:52:24,878 --> 01:52:26,880
over the next few years

2716
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:27,881
phased in over the next few years.

2717
01:52:27,881 --> 01:52:29,881
always

2718
01:52:29,883 --> 01:52:30,884
trying to keep your eyes on that and

2719
01:52:30,884 --> 01:52:32,884
again it

2720
01:52:33,887 --> 01:52:36,890
comes down to it is cutting into our

2721
01:52:36,890 --> 01:52:39,890
core services as a city

2722
01:52:39,893 --> 01:52:40,894
and that is why it is critical,

2723
01:52:40,894 --> 01:52:42,896
jill is bringing forward a proposal

2724
01:52:42,896 --> 01:52:44,896
tonight to modestly

2725
01:52:45,899 --> 01:52:49,499
fill the gap a little bit.

2726
01:52:51,905 --> 01:52:52,906
>>

2727
01:52:52,906 --> 01:52:54,875
all right, again with the fee schedule

2728
01:52:54,875 --> 01:52:56,877
the goal is to reduce dependency on

2729
01:52:56,877 --> 01:52:57,878
the general fund, in research we have discovered

2730
01:52:57,878 --> 01:52:59,878
the last

2731
01:53:00,881 --> 01:53:02,883
fee increase was in 2014

2732
01:53:02,883 --> 01:53:04,885
and as you know the cost of operations

2733
01:53:04,885 --> 01:53:06,887
have dramatically increased since

2734
01:53:06,887 --> 01:53:09,890
that time. As well as with

2735
01:53:09,890 --> 01:53:10,891
f3 coming on and

2736
01:53:10,891 --> 01:53:11,892
permits being made everything from

2737
01:53:11,892 --> 01:53:15,492
lumber and labor has all increased.

2738
01:53:15,896 --> 01:53:17,898
when looking at the methodology

2739
01:53:17,898 --> 01:53:18,899
of what's the best way of doing this

2740
01:53:18,899 --> 01:53:19,900
we looked to

2741
01:53:19,900 --> 01:53:21,902
our partners in some of the other

2742
01:53:21,902 --> 01:53:23,902
regional markets with

2743
01:53:24,905 --> 01:53:26,905
comparisons and

2744
01:53:26,907 --> 01:53:27,875
a lot of the increases are based on

2745
01:53:27,875 --> 01:53:29,875
consumer price

2746
01:53:29,877 --> 01:53:32,880
index and when we are talking about tonight

2747
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:33,881
is the consumer price index for inflation

2748
01:53:33,881 --> 01:53:36,881
for the bay area region

2749
01:53:36,884 --> 01:53:38,884
as well

2750
01:53:39,887 --> 01:53:40,888
as we received information

2751
01:53:40,888 --> 01:53:42,890
from the bureau of labor statistics

2752
01:53:42,890 --> 01:53:45,890
and pg&e data with

2753
01:53:45,893 --> 01:53:46,894
utility rates and we did a market

2754
01:53:46,894 --> 01:53:48,894
analysis

2755
01:53:48,896 --> 01:53:51,896
with some of the similar

2756
01:53:51,899 --> 01:53:53,899
marinas

2757
01:53:53,901 --> 01:53:54,902
in the area comparable to us and that

2758
01:53:54,902 --> 01:53:55,903
would be monisha, vallejo, pittsburgh

2759
01:53:55,903 --> 01:53:56,904
and

2760
01:53:56,904 --> 01:54:00,874
antioch. That also to touch upon it

2761
01:54:00,874 --> 01:54:03,874
, several of those also have

2762
01:54:03,877 --> 01:54:06,880
wooden docs similar to ours so we

2763
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:08,882
were only pulling those forward

2764
01:54:08,882 --> 01:54:11,885
not necessarily the nice concrete or

2765
01:54:11,885 --> 01:54:12,886
covered structures. Some of the marinas

2766
01:54:12,886 --> 01:54:14,886
have expensive rates

2767
01:54:14,888 --> 01:54:15,889
as well. Even with the comparison

2768
01:54:15,889 --> 01:54:17,889
you

2769
01:54:18,892 --> 01:54:20,894
will see in the attachment

2770
01:54:20,894 --> 01:54:21,895
martinez has the lowest rates and

2771
01:54:21,895 --> 01:54:23,897
one of the things

2772
01:54:23,897 --> 01:54:24,898
of the follow-up the subcommittee

2773
01:54:24,898 --> 01:54:26,900
wanted to do was to

2774
01:54:26,900 --> 01:54:27,901
find out when jurisdictions had their

2775
01:54:27,901 --> 01:54:29,901
last increases so

2776
01:54:30,904 --> 01:54:33,907
we went back and they did increase

2777
01:54:33,907 --> 01:54:35,876
in 2025,

2778
01:54:35,876 --> 01:54:38,276
vallejo 2023, pittsburgh 2025 and antioch

2779
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,882
in 2023. To give you an idea

2780
01:54:41,882 --> 01:54:42,883
where they are with the rates that are

2781
01:54:42,883 --> 01:54:44,883
relatively recent

2782
01:54:45,886 --> 01:54:47,886
. So, tonight

2783
01:54:48,889 --> 01:54:51,892
as part of the fee schedule in

2784
01:54:51,892 --> 01:54:53,892
exhibit a there's

2785
01:54:53,894 --> 01:54:54,895
a lot of fees associated with the

2786
01:54:54,895 --> 01:54:56,895
marina, tonight we

2787
01:54:56,897 --> 01:54:57,898
are asking for increases for the 3 fees

2788
01:54:57,898 --> 01:54:59,898
the

2789
01:54:59,900 --> 01:55:03,904
morning fee, the vessel and the monthly rate

2790
01:55:03,904 --> 01:55:06,907
the utility fee which is electricity

2791
01:55:06,907 --> 01:55:09,877
and gas provided by the marina

2792
01:55:09,877 --> 01:55:11,879
it does not include water because

2793
01:55:11,879 --> 01:55:12,880
we never had a water rate listed and

2794
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,880
then the

2795
01:55:15,883 --> 01:55:18,886
fee which is the surcharge for the boaters

2796
01:55:18,886 --> 01:55:19,887
permitted to remain on their vessels

2797
01:55:19,887 --> 01:55:20,888
longer than

2798
01:55:20,888 --> 01:55:21,889
72 hours with 72 hour restriction.

2799
01:55:21,889 --> 01:55:23,889
we will start

2800
01:55:24,892 --> 01:55:27,895
with the mooring fees again proposed

2801
01:55:27,895 --> 01:55:30,895
based on cpi index. Local

2802
01:55:30,898 --> 01:55:31,899
marina market and best practice of

2803
01:55:31,899 --> 01:55:33,899
what other

2804
01:55:33,901 --> 01:55:34,902
marinas are doing and

2805
01:55:34,902 --> 01:55:36,904
our recommendation is to align the

2806
01:55:36,904 --> 01:55:38,904
fee with cumulative

2807
01:55:39,907 --> 01:55:41,907
cpi from 2014 to 2025

2808
01:55:42,876 --> 01:55:44,876
which is 40.69%.

2809
01:55:45,879 --> 01:55:46,880
very straightforward methodology and improves

2810
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,880
the

2811
01:55:48,882 --> 01:55:50,882
overall enterprise ,

2812
01:55:50,884 --> 01:55:51,885
the marina enterprise financial position.

2813
01:55:51,885 --> 01:55:54,285
competitive with other marinas

2814
01:55:54,888 --> 01:55:57,891
but far below the average and we're still

2815
01:55:57,891 --> 01:56:00,891
getting toward the lower end.

2816
01:56:00,894 --> 01:56:02,896
implementation for the fee the

2817
01:56:02,896 --> 01:56:03,897
recommendation that was to the subcommittee

2818
01:56:03,897 --> 01:56:06,900
and I will go back when I

2819
01:56:06,900 --> 01:56:09,903
get to the end I will tell you what

2820
01:56:09,903 --> 01:56:10,904
the recommendation was. We provided

2821
01:56:10,904 --> 01:56:12,904
2 options do

2822
01:56:12,906 --> 01:56:15,876
we implement all at once or look at

2823
01:56:15,876 --> 01:56:17,878
the phase in model over 2 years which

2824
01:56:17,878 --> 01:56:18,879
is what we do with some of the other

2825
01:56:18,879 --> 01:56:20,879
fees especially administrative

2826
01:56:21,882 --> 01:56:23,882
fees restart was 75%

2827
01:56:24,885 --> 01:56:27,888
1st year and then 25% in the 2nd

2828
01:56:27,888 --> 01:56:29,888
year on them.

2829
01:56:30,891 --> 01:56:32,893
so, this particular attachment is

2830
01:56:32,893 --> 01:56:33,894
a little different from the one in

2831
01:56:33,894 --> 01:56:35,894
the staff report

2832
01:56:36,897 --> 01:56:38,899
this is what we presented showing

2833
01:56:38,899 --> 01:56:40,901
you an idea of what it would look like if

2834
01:56:40,901 --> 01:56:42,901
we did 75/25.

2835
01:56:43,904 --> 01:56:44,905
one of the things I

2836
01:56:44,905 --> 01:56:46,907
want to point out is the ones that

2837
01:56:46,907 --> 01:56:48,907
are color-coded, those

2838
01:56:49,877 --> 01:56:50,878
are actually the vessels at the

2839
01:56:50,878 --> 01:56:52,880
marina currently. While we have rates

2840
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,880
going from 20 foot

2841
01:56:55,883 --> 01:56:58,283
all the way to 70

2842
01:56:58,886 --> 01:56:59,887
foot slips, because of the

2843
01:56:59,887 --> 01:57:01,889
marina being downsized, losing docs

2844
01:57:01,889 --> 01:57:03,889
and so forth

2845
01:57:03,891 --> 01:57:07,491
the primary vessel slips are 30, 35 and

2846
01:57:07,895 --> 01:57:10,295
45 with just one , 60 being

2847
01:57:10,898 --> 01:57:11,899
occupied. That gives you an idea

2848
01:57:11,899 --> 01:57:13,901
of where the main increase will affect those

2849
01:57:13,901 --> 01:57:15,901
that

2850
01:57:15,903 --> 01:57:20,703
have boats at the marina. If you look

2851
01:57:20,908 --> 01:57:22,876
or actually the other thing I want

2852
01:57:22,876 --> 01:57:23,877
to point out

2853
01:57:23,877 --> 01:57:25,879
is the dry storage comparison. A lot

2854
01:57:25,879 --> 01:57:27,879
of times

2855
01:57:27,881 --> 01:57:28,882
it is more of a luxury to have your

2856
01:57:28,882 --> 01:57:31,282
boat in the marina

2857
01:57:31,885 --> 01:57:32,886
to get on and go so

2858
01:57:32,886 --> 01:57:34,888
if you look at the dry storage comparison

2859
01:57:34,888 --> 01:57:36,888
which is more

2860
01:57:36,890 --> 01:57:37,891
of a process to get your boat to the

2861
01:57:37,891 --> 01:57:39,893
water that is averaging

2862
01:57:39,893 --> 01:57:43,493
from 200 to 300 for the uncovered storage.

2863
01:57:43,897 --> 01:57:44,898
and

2864
01:57:44,898 --> 01:57:46,900
then again as I mentioned, the antioch,

2865
01:57:46,900 --> 01:57:48,900
pittsburgh and

2866
01:57:49,903 --> 01:57:52,303
vallejo rates are covered

2867
01:57:52,906 --> 01:57:55,876
because they do include , you know

2868
01:57:55,876 --> 01:57:57,876
--

2869
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:32,410
the increase for the

2870
01:58:33,130 --> 01:58:34,140
utility fee they felt made

2871
01:58:34,140 --> 01:58:36,160
sense, understanding the need for

2872
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,160
the increase.

2873
01:58:39,190 --> 01:58:40,200
I mean they understood there was a

2874
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:41,210
need

2875
01:58:41,210 --> 01:58:42,220
and why. They did acknowledge the

2876
01:58:42,220 --> 01:58:44,220
acknowledgment of

2877
01:58:44,992 --> 01:58:46,992
improvements under

2878
01:58:46,994 --> 01:58:47,995
f3 leadership and it was nice to hear the

2879
01:58:47,995 --> 01:58:48,996
praise given to them

2880
01:58:48,996 --> 01:58:50,998
by the voters that were out there.

2881
01:58:50,998 --> 01:58:53,000
I did forget to

2882
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,200
mention jamie is on the line, he is sick

2883
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,400
he is here but with us online should

2884
01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:59,404
we have questions that

2885
01:59:00,700 --> 01:59:02,700
are asked.

2886
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:03,100
and then some of the comments were

2887
01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:05,120
about some additional improvements

2888
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:06,130
they would like to see, comments about the

2889
01:59:06,130 --> 01:59:08,130
pump out being

2890
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:10,170
replaced, the bathrooms, isolated

2891
01:59:10,170 --> 01:59:12,190
incident at the bathrooms having issues

2892
01:59:12,190 --> 01:59:14,190
with that corrected

2893
01:59:15,220 --> 01:59:17,991
and locks have been updated as

2894
01:59:17,991 --> 01:59:19,993
well as the water and

2895
01:59:19,993 --> 01:59:20,994
electricity upgrades like there are

2896
01:59:20,994 --> 01:59:22,994
things they will

2897
01:59:23,997 --> 01:59:27,000
upgrade their. The pump out had a recent

2898
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:28,100
inspection of compliance and I

2899
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:30,300
don't recall the agency that is required

2900
01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:33,300
it might be the health

2901
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,800
department and it did pass just fine.

2902
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:36,900
but we are looking at options that

2903
01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:38,409
if we have the

2904
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,140
ability to improve that we

2905
01:59:41,140 --> 01:59:45,180
will look at that as well in the future.

2906
01:59:45,180 --> 01:59:47,180
again, complements

2907
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,220
about f3 and then you know there was understanding

2908
01:59:49,220 --> 01:59:50,991
of additional funding to help close

2909
01:59:50,991 --> 01:59:53,991
the gap a little bit.

2910
01:59:53,994 --> 01:59:55,994
so, we went

2911
01:59:56,997 --> 01:59:58,432
through forward subcommittee.

2912
01:59:58,432 --> 02:00:01,432
the recommendation that they came

2913
02:00:01,768 --> 02:00:02,736
back with

2914
02:00:02,736 --> 02:00:04,738
--they felt like 40% was a big bite

2915
02:00:04,738 --> 02:00:05,739
right off the bat and wanted to pass

2916
02:00:05,739 --> 02:00:06,740
on this cost with the understanding

2917
02:00:06,740 --> 02:00:07,741
of

2918
02:00:07,741 --> 02:00:08,742
knowing that we had to look towards

2919
02:00:08,742 --> 02:00:09,743
cost recovery and having to close

2920
02:00:09,743 --> 02:00:10,711
the

2921
02:00:10,711 --> 02:00:11,712
gap anyway we can. So they estimate

2922
02:00:11,712 --> 02:00:12,713
--the recommendation that was passed

2923
02:00:12,713 --> 02:00:13,714
forward to

2924
02:00:13,714 --> 02:00:14,715
the council, they created option three,

2925
02:00:14,715 --> 02:00:17,715
which is to look at

2926
02:00:20,721 --> 02:00:22,721
2026 of

2927
02:00:23,724 --> 02:00:25,726
rolling in half of that increase

2928
02:00:25,726 --> 02:00:26,727
in 2026 and half of that increase

2929
02:00:26,727 --> 02:00:27,728
in 2027. For the utility fees, they

2930
02:00:27,728 --> 02:00:28,729
agreed that doubling

2931
02:00:28,729 --> 02:00:29,730
the cost made sense and adding the

2932
02:00:29,730 --> 02:00:31,732
five dollars a month and

2933
02:00:31,732 --> 02:00:32,733
they asked for the five dollars a

2934
02:00:32,733 --> 02:00:34,735
month to be rolled into the fee

2935
02:00:34,735 --> 02:00:35,736
itself. [ inaudible ] which is the

2936
02:00:35,736 --> 02:00:36,737
standard practice that are some of

2937
02:00:36,737 --> 02:00:38,737
the

2938
02:00:39,740 --> 02:00:40,741
other marinas are also doing. As

2939
02:00:40,741 --> 02:00:42,743
for the liveaboard fee, increasing

2940
02:00:42,743 --> 02:00:44,743
that fee

2941
02:00:46,713 --> 02:00:47,714
by $75 to 275. The implementation

2942
02:00:47,714 --> 02:00:48,715
for the utility fee and liveaboard

2943
02:00:48,715 --> 02:00:50,715
fee

2944
02:00:50,717 --> 02:00:54,317
was recommended january 1st and then

2945
02:00:54,721 --> 02:00:55,722
just the facts he would have a

2946
02:00:55,722 --> 02:00:57,724
timeframe over two years. If you look

2947
02:00:57,724 --> 02:01:00,124
at number one, it

2948
02:01:00,727 --> 02:01:01,728
gives you an

2949
02:01:01,728 --> 02:01:03,730
idea that by 2027, we should see an

2950
02:01:03,730 --> 02:01:05,730
increase

2951
02:01:09,736 --> 02:01:11,736
of 129,000.

2952
02:01:15,742 --> 02:01:16,743
while that is a great increase

2953
02:01:16,743 --> 02:01:18,712
based on what we talked about it doesn't necessarily

2954
02:01:18,712 --> 02:01:19,713
get closer to that larger

2955
02:01:19,713 --> 02:01:21,715
gap so we'll have to look at other

2956
02:01:21,715 --> 02:01:22,716
things which we can do to either

2957
02:01:22,716 --> 02:01:23,717
increase revenue or look at how our

2958
02:01:23,717 --> 02:01:24,718
services are being offered. On that.

2959
02:01:24,718 --> 02:01:25,719
so,

2960
02:01:25,719 --> 02:01:27,721
with that, staff is available for

2961
02:01:27,721 --> 02:01:29,721
any questions. And

2962
02:01:29,723 --> 02:01:30,724
the council.

2963
02:01:30,724 --> 02:01:31,725
>> thank you very much.

2964
02:01:31,725 --> 02:01:32,726
does

2965
02:01:32,726 --> 02:01:33,727
anyone want to start us off, and if

2966
02:01:33,727 --> 02:01:34,728
not, can I have the folks that

2967
02:01:34,728 --> 02:01:36,730
are in the marina subcommittee maybe

2968
02:01:36,730 --> 02:01:38,730
just provide their

2969
02:01:39,733 --> 02:01:42,733
input on the conversation I

2970
02:01:42,736 --> 02:01:44,736
was had?

2971
02:01:48,742 --> 02:01:50,742
>> yeah.

2972
02:01:51,712 --> 02:01:52,713
I really appreciate your report

2973
02:01:52,713 --> 02:01:53,714
and all the hard work and I appreciate

2974
02:01:53,714 --> 02:01:54,715
all the stakeholders that came down

2975
02:01:54,715 --> 02:01:55,716
to the

2976
02:01:55,716 --> 02:01:57,718
subcommittee meeting and had their

2977
02:01:57,718 --> 02:01:58,719
input. I think --can you tell me a

2978
02:01:58,719 --> 02:02:00,719
little

2979
02:02:00,721 --> 02:02:04,321
bit more about the bathrooms in

2980
02:02:05,726 --> 02:02:06,727
the keys. [ inaudible -low volume

2981
02:02:06,727 --> 02:02:07,728
]

2982
02:02:07,728 --> 02:02:08,729
>>

2983
02:02:08,729 --> 02:02:09,730
there was an incident in which there

2984
02:02:09,730 --> 02:02:10,731
was a key being used by

2985
02:02:10,731 --> 02:02:12,733
a prior tenant, and they were not

2986
02:02:12,733 --> 02:02:13,734
happy with the marina, so there was

2987
02:02:13,734 --> 02:02:15,736
some damage that was done internally

2988
02:02:15,736 --> 02:02:18,739
to the bathrooms and so it we ended

2989
02:02:18,739 --> 02:02:20,739
up

2990
02:02:20,741 --> 02:02:21,742
doing is f3 changed all the locks

2991
02:02:21,742 --> 02:02:24,711
to have box as an

2992
02:02:24,711 --> 02:02:26,713
interim solution until we do

2993
02:02:26,713 --> 02:02:27,714
more research on whether it makes

2994
02:02:27,714 --> 02:02:29,714
sense to re-key

2995
02:02:30,717 --> 02:02:31,718
everything.

2996
02:02:31,718 --> 02:02:33,718
>> [ inaudible ]

2997
02:02:35,722 --> 02:02:36,723
>> it was about 6000 just to do regular

2998
02:02:36,723 --> 02:02:38,723
heart keys and

2999
02:02:39,726 --> 02:02:41,728
it was somewhere in the 20+ range

3000
02:02:41,728 --> 02:02:42,729
if we were going to do key fobs. And

3001
02:02:42,729 --> 02:02:45,729
given our track of moving

3002
02:02:48,735 --> 02:02:49,736
forward with

3003
02:02:49,736 --> 02:02:51,736
reyna revitalization discussions,

3004
02:02:51,738 --> 02:02:52,739
we wanted to be mindful not to spend

3005
02:02:52,739 --> 02:02:53,740
that kind of funding.

3006
02:02:53,740 --> 02:02:54,741
>> and I really

3007
02:02:54,741 --> 02:02:55,742
appreciate you putting up option three.

3008
02:02:55,742 --> 02:02:57,742
in

3009
02:03:00,714 --> 02:03:02,714
our conversation.

3010
02:03:02,716 --> 02:03:03,717
>> given the situation with the bathrooms,

3011
02:03:03,717 --> 02:03:05,719
has there been any additional

3012
02:03:05,719 --> 02:03:06,720
incidents or are the keys working

3013
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,720
well? Do the residents feel

3014
02:03:09,723 --> 02:03:11,723
like they

3015
02:03:12,726 --> 02:03:14,726
have privacy

3016
02:03:30,744 --> 02:03:32,713
--I'm just curious.

3017
02:03:32,713 --> 02:03:33,714
>> it is a keypad box so it's not keys. They

3018
02:03:33,714 --> 02:03:34,715
have a code that only

3019
02:03:34,715 --> 02:03:35,716
the residents have. I've not heard

3020
02:03:35,716 --> 02:03:36,717
of any incidents since that time.

3021
02:03:36,717 --> 02:03:37,718
>> okay. That

3022
02:03:37,718 --> 02:03:39,720
was my concern was, you know, we have

3023
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:40,721
a solution but has it actually solved

3024
02:03:40,721 --> 02:03:41,722
the problem and made people feel safer

3025
02:03:41,722 --> 02:03:42,723
when using the bathroom, especially

3026
02:03:42,723 --> 02:03:43,724
after hours, and

3027
02:03:43,724 --> 02:03:45,726
again, thank you for presenting the

3028
02:03:45,726 --> 02:03:46,727
50-50 rollout, as opposed to the 7525

3029
02:03:46,727 --> 02:03:47,728
because

3030
02:03:47,728 --> 02:03:48,729
jay and I both felt that was a little

3031
02:03:48,729 --> 02:03:49,730
bit easier to transition these increases

3032
02:03:49,730 --> 02:03:51,732
more gradually over the next two years.

3033
02:03:51,732 --> 02:03:52,733
so.

3034
02:03:52,733 --> 02:03:54,735
>> I think you spelled out

3035
02:03:54,735 --> 02:03:56,735
all of

3036
02:03:57,738 --> 02:03:59,740
the changes. That one slide

3037
02:03:59,740 --> 02:04:00,741
--I think one or two back --if you

3038
02:04:00,741 --> 02:04:02,741
want to push

3039
02:04:03,744 --> 02:04:06,713
that back. Just one more

3040
02:04:06,713 --> 02:04:08,713
forward. Yes. So

3041
02:04:09,716 --> 02:04:11,716
I think that

3042
02:04:12,719 --> 02:04:13,720
side represents some of

3043
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,722
the comments that we had, jay, and

3044
02:04:15,722 --> 02:04:19,922
I think that kind of sums up

3045
02:04:20,727 --> 02:04:21,728
our recommendations. So, that's all we

3046
02:04:21,728 --> 02:04:23,728
have

3047
02:04:27,734 --> 02:04:29,734
this year.

3048
02:04:32,739 --> 02:04:33,740
>> and I stepped out at the very beginning.

3049
02:04:33,740 --> 02:04:35,742
when I came in, I

3050
02:04:35,742 --> 02:04:36,743
heard you were reporting out on the

3051
02:04:36,743 --> 02:04:37,711
water fix, so thank you very much

3052
02:04:37,711 --> 02:04:39,713
for that information. That was something

3053
02:04:39,713 --> 02:04:40,714
and it was important for all of us.

3054
02:04:40,714 --> 02:04:41,715
I

3055
02:04:41,715 --> 02:04:42,716
think we were all here when this conversation

3056
02:04:42,716 --> 02:04:44,718
happened last time. There was concern

3057
02:04:44,718 --> 02:04:45,719
about passing on utility costs for

3058
02:04:45,719 --> 02:04:48,722
water. When we had not yet resolved

3059
02:04:48,722 --> 02:04:50,722
the

3060
02:04:51,725 --> 02:04:53,725
water main

3061
02:05:00,734 --> 02:05:01,735
leakage, so

3062
02:05:01,735 --> 02:05:03,737
thank you for reporting out on that.

3063
02:05:03,737 --> 02:05:04,738
I did ask earlier today about the

3064
02:05:04,738 --> 02:05:05,739
cost difference,

3065
02:05:05,739 --> 02:05:06,740
which was sort of the trigger for

3066
02:05:06,740 --> 02:05:08,742
us realizing there was a leak. Did

3067
02:05:08,742 --> 02:05:09,743
you have a chance to report out on

3068
02:05:09,743 --> 02:05:10,744
that?

3069
02:05:10,744 --> 02:05:11,712
>> I did not have a

3070
02:05:11,712 --> 02:05:12,713
chance.

3071
02:05:12,713 --> 02:05:13,714
>> would you mind? >> previously,

3072
02:05:13,714 --> 02:05:17,314
we were paying a little over $16,000

3073
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:20,721
per month. Every other month

3074
02:05:20,721 --> 02:05:21,722
now is down to about $850.

3075
02:05:21,722 --> 02:05:22,723
>> that's

3076
02:05:22,723 --> 02:05:23,724
great. That is --that is much

3077
02:05:23,724 --> 02:05:24,725
more realistic. Just to clarify, the

3078
02:05:24,725 --> 02:05:26,725
five dollars for

3079
02:05:29,730 --> 02:05:30,731
the water is based on $850 a month.

3080
02:05:30,731 --> 02:05:31,732
not the 16,000.

3081
02:05:31,732 --> 02:05:32,733
>> yeah.

3082
02:05:32,733 --> 02:05:33,734
and it still far below anything we

3083
02:05:33,734 --> 02:05:34,735
would recover.

3084
02:05:34,735 --> 02:05:36,737
>> I want to make

3085
02:05:36,737 --> 02:05:38,737
a correction. $850 just

3086
02:05:39,740 --> 02:05:41,740
for the

3087
02:05:42,743 --> 02:05:43,744
meter --the leak. There's other

3088
02:05:43,744 --> 02:05:44,711
meters out there.

3089
02:05:44,711 --> 02:05:45,712
>> thank you. >>

3090
02:05:45,712 --> 02:05:47,712
if you look

3091
02:05:51,718 --> 02:05:53,718
at the

3092
02:06:00,727 --> 02:06:02,729
--did we fix that in 2024? I think

3093
02:06:02,729 --> 02:06:03,730
we did that or talked about the water

3094
02:06:03,730 --> 02:06:05,732
at 82. We were over --we were

3095
02:06:05,732 --> 02:06:06,733
up in the 140,000 --116,000 --something

3096
02:06:06,733 --> 02:06:07,734
like that range. There's multiple

3097
02:06:07,734 --> 02:06:08,735
water meters.

3098
02:06:08,735 --> 02:06:09,736
great. Thank you. And just making

3099
02:06:09,736 --> 02:06:10,737
sure. Those were my two questions

3100
02:06:10,737 --> 02:06:12,737
then. Great.

3101
02:06:15,742 --> 02:06:17,711
thank you. Any other comments? I know

3102
02:06:17,711 --> 02:06:18,712
we have several folks hear from the

3103
02:06:18,712 --> 02:06:20,714
public, and kevin has flyers so how

3104
02:06:20,714 --> 02:06:21,715
about we start with kevin for public

3105
02:06:21,715 --> 02:06:24,715
comment and anyone else who

3106
02:06:24,718 --> 02:06:26,720
has comments can raise their

3107
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:27,721
hand.

3108
02:06:27,721 --> 02:06:28,722
>> I just had a quick question

3109
02:06:28,722 --> 02:06:30,724
as a point of clarification. In the

3110
02:06:30,724 --> 02:06:32,724
staff report, it

3111
02:06:33,727 --> 02:06:35,727
plays out

3112
02:06:52,713 --> 02:06:53,714
--lays

3113
02:06:53,714 --> 02:06:55,716
out --there's two options and then

3114
02:06:55,716 --> 02:06:56,717
there was a third option so what

3115
02:06:56,717 --> 02:06:57,718
am I missing?

3116
02:06:57,718 --> 02:06:58,719
>> with the staff report,

3117
02:06:58,719 --> 02:06:59,720
we wanted to talk about what we submitted

3118
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:00,721
to the subcommittee but our aggradation

3119
02:07:00,721 --> 02:07:01,722
is what came out of the subcommittee

3120
02:07:01,722 --> 02:07:02,723
which

3121
02:07:02,723 --> 02:07:03,724
is the 50%. When you look at the attachments,

3122
02:07:03,724 --> 02:07:05,726
attachment a shows the 50-50. The

3123
02:07:05,726 --> 02:07:06,727
model. It shows you how much money

3124
02:07:06,727 --> 02:07:07,728
will be collected and then we did

3125
02:07:07,728 --> 02:07:08,729
that

3126
02:07:08,729 --> 02:07:10,731
with the slide to show you what would

3127
02:07:10,731 --> 02:07:11,732
be collected based on the two

3128
02:07:11,732 --> 02:07:12,733
different areas. [ inaudible ]

3129
02:07:12,733 --> 02:07:13,734
>>

3130
02:07:13,734 --> 02:07:14,735
so option three that's listed on the

3131
02:07:14,735 --> 02:07:16,735
slideshow

3132
02:07:16,737 --> 02:07:17,738
came about after.

3133
02:07:17,738 --> 02:07:18,739
>> it is

3134
02:07:18,739 --> 02:07:19,740
a subcommittee that came up with option

3135
02:07:19,740 --> 02:07:20,741
three. We came forward with the recommendation

3136
02:07:20,741 --> 02:07:22,743
and they wanted to look at how we

3137
02:07:22,743 --> 02:07:23,744
--is the delivery of the rates

3138
02:07:23,744 --> 02:07:24,711
a little bit more? So that's where

3139
02:07:24,711 --> 02:07:25,712
they came up with the recommendation

3140
02:07:25,712 --> 02:07:27,712
for

3141
02:07:27,714 --> 02:07:28,715
the council tonight. To go with the

3142
02:07:28,715 --> 02:07:30,715
50% instead of

3143
02:07:34,721 --> 02:07:36,721
75 25 . Were full. And

3144
02:07:37,724 --> 02:07:38,725
this is the morning rate,

3145
02:07:38,725 --> 02:07:40,727
so, yeah. The other two rates, they

3146
02:07:40,727 --> 02:07:43,727
would like to be full

3147
02:07:43,730 --> 02:07:44,731
in effect january 1st.

3148
02:07:44,731 --> 02:07:46,731
>>

3149
02:07:46,733 --> 02:07:48,733
okay. Got

3150
02:07:48,735 --> 02:07:49,736
it. Okay. I'm going to reserve further

3151
02:07:49,736 --> 02:07:50,737
comment until

3152
02:07:50,737 --> 02:07:52,739
I've had an opportunity to hear from

3153
02:07:52,739 --> 02:07:55,139
some of the stakeholders

3154
02:07:58,712 --> 02:07:59,713
that have patiently waited to chime

3155
02:07:59,713 --> 02:08:00,714
in, so thank you.

3156
02:08:00,714 --> 02:08:01,715
>> okay. Now kevin

3157
02:08:01,715 --> 02:08:04,715
can hand out those fires.

3158
02:08:04,718 --> 02:08:06,718
I'm sorry.

3159
02:08:46,727 --> 02:08:47,728
>> hi. My name is

3160
02:08:47,728 --> 02:08:49,730
kevin bacon. I live on arlington street

3161
02:08:49,730 --> 02:08:52,733
just down the road from here and

3162
02:08:52,733 --> 02:08:54,735
also use the marina with

3163
02:08:54,735 --> 02:08:55,736
a boat [ inaudible ] I just wanted

3164
02:08:55,736 --> 02:08:57,736
to touch base

3165
02:08:58,739 --> 02:09:00,739
on the narrative

3166
02:09:00,741 --> 02:09:01,742
of the expense and the income generated

3167
02:09:01,742 --> 02:09:03,742
by the

3168
02:09:04,711 --> 02:09:07,714
marina by itself and so this is

3169
02:09:07,714 --> 02:09:09,716
handed to you the 20 year income

3170
02:09:09,716 --> 02:09:10,717
expense accounting produced by the

3171
02:09:10,717 --> 02:09:12,717
city

3172
02:09:16,723 --> 02:09:17,724
staff as pulled

3173
02:09:17,724 --> 02:09:19,726
off of your website. It's from 2006.

3174
02:09:19,726 --> 02:09:21,726
it ends

3175
02:09:22,729 --> 02:09:23,730
around 2023, '24. It's the budget

3176
02:09:23,730 --> 02:09:24,731
and it

3177
02:09:24,731 --> 02:09:25,732
is pretty detailed. And it condensed

3178
02:09:25,732 --> 02:09:27,732
down

3179
02:09:31,738 --> 02:09:34,741
to just an expense and income on that

3180
02:09:34,741 --> 02:09:37,141
first page. And this

3181
02:09:37,744 --> 02:09:41,944
is in an effort to address the

3182
02:09:43,717 --> 02:09:46,720
staff report goal b, strategy 2, engage

3183
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:48,720
the community about

3184
02:09:49,723 --> 02:09:50,724
the marina's fiscal reality and

3185
02:09:50,724 --> 02:09:52,726
its future. And the reality is that

3186
02:09:52,726 --> 02:09:55,726
the budget shows near break

3187
02:09:55,729 --> 02:09:57,729
even income

3188
02:09:58,732 --> 02:10:00,732
to

3189
02:10:00,734 --> 02:10:01,735
operational expenses. It's got nothing

3190
02:10:01,735 --> 02:10:04,135
to do with the

3191
02:10:04,738 --> 02:10:06,738
capital expenditures. But

3192
02:10:07,741 --> 02:10:09,743
the marina operational expenses

3193
02:10:09,743 --> 02:10:10,744
are conflated with the outlays of

3194
02:10:10,744 --> 02:10:12,713
the

3195
02:10:12,713 --> 02:10:13,714
enterprise fund. Staff writes, the

3196
02:10:13,714 --> 02:10:15,714
city

3197
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:20,721
has used $1.7 million to cover marina

3198
02:10:20,721 --> 02:10:22,721
needs.

3199
02:10:22,723 --> 02:10:25,726
the message we hear is that

3200
02:10:25,726 --> 02:10:27,728
the marina is costing us

3201
02:10:27,728 --> 02:10:28,729
$1.7 million and I think jay was outraged when

3202
02:10:28,729 --> 02:10:31,129
he heard that back

3203
02:10:31,732 --> 02:10:33,732
in july

3204
02:10:34,735 --> 02:10:35,736
and said we probably want to shut

3205
02:10:35,736 --> 02:10:37,738
down the marina because of that. But

3206
02:10:37,738 --> 02:10:40,138
that's not really the

3207
02:10:40,741 --> 02:10:43,141
case. When you look

3208
02:10:43,744 --> 02:10:46,713
at the --breaking down the

3209
02:10:46,713 --> 02:10:48,713
$1.7 million, dredging project,

3210
02:10:49,716 --> 02:10:51,716
$750,000. That's

3211
02:10:51,718 --> 02:10:54,721
in the 1.7. That is a capital expenditure.

3212
02:10:54,721 --> 02:10:55,722
that's not an operational expense.

3213
02:10:55,722 --> 02:10:57,722
the water

3214
02:10:58,725 --> 02:11:00,725
front

3215
02:11:00,727 --> 02:11:01,728
trust --half $1 million. That is not

3216
02:11:01,728 --> 02:11:05,328
an operational expense. That is a

3217
02:11:07,734 --> 02:11:09,734
capital expenditure.

3218
02:11:10,737 --> 02:11:12,739
design fees for the eastern wall,

3219
02:11:12,739 --> 02:11:13,740
we don't know if that's been spent

3220
02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:14,741
but that's $250,000. I don't think

3221
02:11:14,741 --> 02:11:15,742
we

3222
02:11:15,742 --> 02:11:16,743
spent that. Temporary repairs --the

3223
02:11:16,743 --> 02:11:19,713
fishing pier --the fishing pier is

3224
02:11:19,713 --> 02:11:22,716
not a marina. It's part of

3225
02:11:22,716 --> 02:11:25,716
the enterprise fund, but that

3226
02:11:28,722 --> 02:11:30,722
is not

3227
02:11:34,728 --> 02:11:35,729
an operational expenditure. The funds set aside for

3228
02:11:35,729 --> 02:11:36,730
entrance doc d,

3229
02:11:36,730 --> 02:11:37,731
$60,000, that probably wasn't even

3230
02:11:37,731 --> 02:11:38,732
spent. I don't think so. That was

3231
02:11:38,732 --> 02:11:40,732
the gangway. So,

3232
02:11:40,734 --> 02:11:42,734
in supplemental

3233
02:11:43,737 --> 02:11:44,738
funding for the bates shore, $50,000.

3234
02:11:44,738 --> 02:11:45,739
>>

3235
02:11:45,739 --> 02:11:46,740
your time is up.

3236
02:11:46,740 --> 02:11:47,741
>> so anyhow, that

3237
02:11:47,741 --> 02:11:49,741
bait shop

3238
02:11:49,743 --> 02:11:51,712
operation fund is --shouldn't be part

3239
02:11:51,712 --> 02:11:55,912
of the marina as well. That's been

3240
02:11:58,719 --> 02:11:59,720
closed down.

3241
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:00,721
>> thank you. >> I

3242
02:12:00,721 --> 02:12:01,722
just want you to address the narrative,

3243
02:12:01,722 --> 02:12:02,723
please.

3244
02:12:02,723 --> 02:12:04,723
>> thanks, kevin. >>

3245
02:12:07,728 --> 02:12:09,728
go ahead.

3246
02:12:19,740 --> 02:12:21,740
>> my

3247
02:12:21,742 --> 02:12:22,743
name is bob emanuel. I live in pacific

3248
02:12:22,743 --> 02:12:24,711
grove but I do have a boat

3249
02:12:24,711 --> 02:12:25,712
here. As a longtime resident, as a

3250
02:12:25,712 --> 02:12:27,714
kid, in fact, my father was a city

3251
02:12:27,714 --> 02:12:28,715
manager here back in the 60s and this

3252
02:12:28,715 --> 02:12:30,717
place has really shrunk. He used

3253
02:12:30,717 --> 02:12:31,718
to be much bigger when I was a kid

3254
02:12:31,718 --> 02:12:33,720
in my mind. Anyway, I was

3255
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:34,721
out on the ferry --the marine --the

3256
02:12:34,721 --> 02:12:36,723
ferry dock today and I

3257
02:12:36,723 --> 02:12:37,724
was really glad that you left the

3258
02:12:37,724 --> 02:12:39,726
old fairy. When I was a kid,

3259
02:12:39,726 --> 02:12:40,727
there was no bridge. You have to take

3260
02:12:40,727 --> 02:12:42,727
the ferry across

3261
02:12:42,729 --> 02:12:43,730
and it is nice to see people live

3262
02:12:43,730 --> 02:12:45,732
with that. [ inaudible ] but

3263
02:12:45,732 --> 02:12:46,733
I would like to say before I get to

3264
02:12:46,733 --> 02:12:49,133
my main point is

3265
02:12:49,736 --> 02:12:50,737
you compared a lot of marinas. Those

3266
02:12:50,737 --> 02:12:51,738
are

3267
02:12:51,738 --> 02:12:52,739
very nice. I'm familiar with a lot

3268
02:12:52,739 --> 02:12:54,741
of them. The difference is my

3269
02:12:54,741 --> 02:12:55,742
boat is here in the mud twice a day

3270
02:12:55,742 --> 02:12:58,712
and in those other marinas, they are

3271
02:12:58,712 --> 02:12:59,713
not. That said, I don't have any issue

3272
02:12:59,713 --> 02:13:01,713
with

3273
02:13:01,715 --> 02:13:04,115
the 40% increase. I would

3274
02:13:04,718 --> 02:13:05,719
just say almost 40 years I was a civil

3275
02:13:05,719 --> 02:13:07,719
servant for

3276
02:13:07,721 --> 02:13:09,721
the department

3277
02:13:10,724 --> 02:13:12,724
of defense.

3278
02:13:25,739 --> 02:13:26,740
I ran municipal and county services on

3279
02:13:26,740 --> 02:13:27,741
army and navy bases.

3280
02:13:27,741 --> 02:13:28,742
the went through a similar situation

3281
02:13:28,742 --> 02:13:29,743
where we did not want to raise rates.

3282
02:13:29,743 --> 02:13:30,744
we

3283
02:13:30,744 --> 02:13:32,713
kept them low, kept them low, kept

3284
02:13:32,713 --> 02:13:33,714
them low and then all of a

3285
02:13:33,714 --> 02:13:34,715
sudden, we are in a situation where

3286
02:13:34,715 --> 02:13:36,717
we have to jack them up pretty high.

3287
02:13:36,717 --> 02:13:38,719
there are a lot of wonderful people

3288
02:13:38,719 --> 02:13:39,720
living at the marina. For me, no big

3289
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:41,722
deal. It's a good I come here once

3290
02:13:41,722 --> 02:13:42,723
a week to reacquaint myself with

3291
02:13:42,723 --> 02:13:44,725
my high school friends but for the

3292
02:13:44,725 --> 02:13:45,726
people who live there, I think that

3293
02:13:45,726 --> 02:13:46,727
could be quite expensive. My advice

3294
02:13:46,727 --> 02:13:47,728
per the lesson I learned myself, two,

3295
02:13:47,728 --> 02:13:48,729
three, four,

3296
02:13:48,729 --> 02:13:50,731
5% per year, rather than 40% every

3297
02:13:50,731 --> 02:13:51,732
--you guys get the point.

3298
02:13:51,732 --> 02:13:52,733
anyways, thank you.

3299
02:13:52,733 --> 02:13:53,734
>> thank you.

3300
02:13:53,734 --> 02:13:55,734
>> who else has

3301
02:13:56,737 --> 02:13:57,738
comments? Jonas pique.

3302
02:13:57,738 --> 02:13:59,738
>> any of

3303
02:13:59,740 --> 02:14:02,740
you own a boat down

3304
02:14:04,711 --> 02:14:05,712
at the -- marina? You live on one.

3305
02:14:05,712 --> 02:14:08,112
so you are familiar

3306
02:14:08,715 --> 02:14:09,716
with

3307
02:14:09,716 --> 02:14:11,718
our docks. I'm on a dock. I can't

3308
02:14:11,718 --> 02:14:13,720
even get my boat out of

3309
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:14,721
the slip because I'm sitting in the

3310
02:14:14,721 --> 02:14:17,721
mud. Not only is it

3311
02:14:17,724 --> 02:14:20,724
--I can't get out, but

3312
02:14:20,727 --> 02:14:21,728
it is wearing my bottom

3313
02:14:21,728 --> 02:14:23,730
paying off the boat. [ inaudible ]

3314
02:14:23,730 --> 02:14:25,730
I'm sucking up

3315
02:14:26,733 --> 02:14:30,333
mud into mansion so it's causing

3316
02:14:32,739 --> 02:14:33,740
engine problems. B, the

3317
02:14:33,740 --> 02:14:34,741
docks, you can't even walk on them,

3318
02:14:34,741 --> 02:14:35,742
basically and if you do, you have

3319
02:14:35,742 --> 02:14:36,743
to

3320
02:14:36,743 --> 02:14:38,712
watch where you are walking because

3321
02:14:38,712 --> 02:14:41,715
you are going to put your foot through

3322
02:14:41,715 --> 02:14:42,716
the wood. Or

3323
02:14:42,716 --> 02:14:44,718
you stub your toe and you trip. I

3324
02:14:44,718 --> 02:14:47,721
mean, I think all of us

3325
02:14:47,721 --> 02:14:48,722
should go on a field trip and walk

3326
02:14:48,722 --> 02:14:50,724
the docks. You go to the niche, you

3327
02:14:50,724 --> 02:14:52,724
go to

3328
02:14:56,730 --> 02:14:58,730
any other

3329
02:15:05,739 --> 02:15:06,740
marina,

3330
02:15:06,740 --> 02:15:08,742
they are nice concrete docks. They have so

3331
02:15:08,742 --> 02:15:09,743
much more to offer. Yes, you are

3332
02:15:09,743 --> 02:15:11,712
the cheapest here, but you have nothing to

3333
02:15:11,712 --> 02:15:13,714
offer us. There's no fuel. We can't

3334
02:15:13,714 --> 02:15:14,715
get in and out. I don't know how you

3335
02:15:14,715 --> 02:15:15,716
are going to do your light

3336
02:15:15,716 --> 02:15:17,718
parade because everyone is going to

3337
02:15:17,718 --> 02:15:18,719
get stuck at the mouth at the marina.

3338
02:15:18,719 --> 02:15:20,721
and definitely if you are a sailboat.

3339
02:15:20,721 --> 02:15:21,722
you know. I mean, literally, the money

3340
02:15:21,722 --> 02:15:22,723
should

3341
02:15:22,723 --> 02:15:23,724
be going to the marina because that's

3342
02:15:23,724 --> 02:15:26,727
what brought everybody here in the

3343
02:15:26,727 --> 02:15:27,728
first place.

3344
02:15:27,728 --> 02:15:29,730
you got the symbol of a sailboat.

3345
02:15:29,730 --> 02:15:32,733
nobody can come in here with a

3346
02:15:32,733 --> 02:15:34,733
sailboat. The yacht

3347
02:15:35,736 --> 02:15:37,736
club has

3348
02:15:39,740 --> 02:15:41,742
a problem with people coming in on

3349
02:15:41,742 --> 02:15:42,743
cruises. I mean, it's time to work

3350
02:15:42,743 --> 02:15:44,745
on that. That is your moneymaker that

3351
02:15:44,745 --> 02:15:45,712
we are paying for so help us

3352
02:15:45,712 --> 02:15:47,714
out as boat owners. Thank you very

3353
02:15:47,714 --> 02:15:48,715
much.

3354
02:15:48,715 --> 02:15:50,715
>>

3355
02:15:50,717 --> 02:15:51,718
thank you.

3356
02:15:51,718 --> 02:15:53,718
>> any other

3357
02:15:56,723 --> 02:15:58,723
comments tonight?

3358
02:15:59,726 --> 02:16:00,727
all right. How about in the

3359
02:16:00,727 --> 02:16:01,728
virtual audience?

3360
02:16:01,728 --> 02:16:02,729
>> please use the

3361
02:16:02,729 --> 02:16:04,729
raise

3362
02:16:05,732 --> 02:16:07,732
hand

3363
02:16:08,735 --> 02:16:09,736
feature.

3364
02:16:09,736 --> 02:16:11,736
>> I have

3365
02:16:11,738 --> 02:16:13,738
no hands.

3366
02:16:16,743 --> 02:16:17,744
>> all right, so, I'm going to bring

3367
02:16:17,744 --> 02:16:18,712
this back. Sandra,

3368
02:16:18,712 --> 02:16:20,714
you indicated you had some other comments.

3369
02:16:20,714 --> 02:16:24,314
would you like to provide your

3370
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:28,720
comments now?

3371
02:16:29,723 --> 02:16:30,724
[ inaudible ]

3372
02:16:30,724 --> 02:16:31,725
>> you know, reading

3373
02:16:31,725 --> 02:16:32,726
this staff

3374
02:16:32,726 --> 02:16:33,727
report, it took me back to the recent

3375
02:16:33,727 --> 02:16:34,728
discussion we had on our

3376
02:16:34,728 --> 02:16:35,729
garbage rates. And, you know, how

3377
02:16:35,729 --> 02:16:38,732
he had to do, I think it was a

3378
02:16:38,732 --> 02:16:41,132
double-digit increase on our

3379
02:16:41,735 --> 02:16:44,735
garbage rates and similarly, we

3380
02:16:47,741 --> 02:16:49,743
had prior administrations hadn't done the

3381
02:16:49,743 --> 02:16:50,744
consistent sort of, you know, increases

3382
02:16:50,744 --> 02:16:52,744
that

3383
02:16:53,714 --> 02:16:55,714
certainly I a

3384
02:16:56,717 --> 02:16:58,717
very much

3385
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:00,721
--I think is very much prudent,

3386
02:17:00,721 --> 02:17:02,723
and I know that our current executive

3387
02:17:02,723 --> 02:17:06,923
team in council all feel that way.

3388
02:17:08,729 --> 02:17:10,729
and

3389
02:17:20,741 --> 02:17:21,742
I am

3390
02:17:21,742 --> 02:17:23,744
very, very -- I share the frustration

3391
02:17:23,744 --> 02:17:24,745
that was expressed here tonight, and

3392
02:17:24,745 --> 02:17:25,712
to the point of,

3393
02:17:25,712 --> 02:17:26,713
you know, what we are doing about

3394
02:17:26,713 --> 02:17:28,715
it, I think staff had laid out

3395
02:17:28,715 --> 02:17:29,716
thank you for that. Some of the improvements

3396
02:17:29,716 --> 02:17:30,717
and it sounds like those improvements

3397
02:17:30,717 --> 02:17:31,718
were

3398
02:17:31,718 --> 02:17:32,719
acknowledged. That f3 has done an

3399
02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:33,720
admirable job in the short amount

3400
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:34,721
of time

3401
02:17:34,721 --> 02:17:35,722
that we had them. But we have a lot

3402
02:17:35,722 --> 02:17:37,722
more work

3403
02:17:40,727 --> 02:17:41,728
to do, and there is what is doable

3404
02:17:41,728 --> 02:17:43,730
in the short term and then

3405
02:17:43,730 --> 02:17:44,731
it's more of the long term, as well,

3406
02:17:44,731 --> 02:17:45,732
and that we are working to

3407
02:17:45,732 --> 02:17:47,734
address both. So, I wanted to clarify

3408
02:17:47,734 --> 02:17:49,734
that from

3409
02:17:49,736 --> 02:17:53,336
staff because the options before us

3410
02:17:53,740 --> 02:17:55,740
here tonight. The

3411
02:17:59,713 --> 02:18:00,714
third option is in

3412
02:18:00,714 --> 02:18:02,716
the slideshow to go back to the earlier option.

3413
02:18:02,716 --> 02:18:05,719
that is specific to the morning.

3414
02:18:05,719 --> 02:18:06,720
is that --is that correct?

3415
02:18:06,720 --> 02:18:07,721
>> no.

3416
02:18:07,721 --> 02:18:11,725
the third -- yes. The third option

3417
02:18:11,725 --> 02:18:13,727
we presented under the

3418
02:18:13,727 --> 02:18:14,728
mooring fees is a third option recommended

3419
02:18:14,728 --> 02:18:17,728
by the subcommittee. The utilities

3420
02:18:20,734 --> 02:18:22,734
and the

3421
02:18:26,740 --> 02:18:27,741
liveaboard fee, the subcommittee

3422
02:18:27,741 --> 02:18:28,742
accepted as presented.

3423
02:18:28,742 --> 02:18:29,743
>> then my

3424
02:18:29,743 --> 02:18:30,744
question was --in other user fees,

3425
02:18:30,744 --> 02:18:32,713
like

3426
02:18:32,713 --> 02:18:34,713
for parks

3427
02:18:34,715 --> 02:18:35,716
and rec, I believe we have a system

3428
02:18:35,716 --> 02:18:38,719
in place where if somebody demonstrates

3429
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:39,720
financial

3430
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:41,722
hardship, that we have some options

3431
02:18:41,722 --> 02:18:43,722
available

3432
02:18:46,727 --> 02:18:47,728
for them. Is there a similar --is

3433
02:18:47,728 --> 02:18:50,728
there some recourse here that

3434
02:18:50,731 --> 02:18:54,331
if somebody does come forward to

3435
02:18:56,737 --> 02:18:58,737
show some

3436
02:18:59,740 --> 02:19:00,741
financial hardship, do we have a way

3437
02:19:00,741 --> 02:19:01,742
to work with them

3438
02:19:01,742 --> 02:19:02,743
or offer any type of relief?

3439
02:19:02,743 --> 02:19:03,744
>> no.

3440
02:19:03,744 --> 02:19:05,712
that is not

3441
02:19:05,712 --> 02:19:07,712
being presented.

3442
02:19:07,714 --> 02:19:08,715
>> so we don't have that. That would've been

3443
02:19:08,715 --> 02:19:09,716
something that I would have liked

3444
02:19:09,716 --> 02:19:11,716
to have

3445
02:19:11,718 --> 02:19:14,118
seen. You are talking 40%.

3446
02:19:14,721 --> 02:19:16,721
you know.

3447
02:19:17,724 --> 02:19:19,726
that is a pretty steep increase. I

3448
02:19:19,726 --> 02:19:20,727
understand why we have to do it. I

3449
02:19:20,727 --> 02:19:23,730
do. I'm not questioning that, but

3450
02:19:23,730 --> 02:19:25,732
I'm also --and I appreciate the subcommittee's

3451
02:19:25,732 --> 02:19:26,733
recommendation, as well, with respect

3452
02:19:26,733 --> 02:19:29,733
to phasing it in. That

3453
02:19:29,736 --> 02:19:30,737
is helpful. But, you know, I personally

3454
02:19:30,737 --> 02:19:32,737
would

3455
02:19:32,739 --> 02:19:33,740
have liked to have seen some type

3456
02:19:33,740 --> 02:19:35,740
of

3457
02:19:39,713 --> 02:19:41,713
financial hardship

3458
02:19:42,716 --> 02:19:43,717
waiver or something there to

3459
02:19:43,717 --> 02:19:45,719
help, but that's just me. But I think

3460
02:19:45,719 --> 02:19:48,722
sort of moving forward, it is

3461
02:19:48,722 --> 02:19:49,723
really incumbent upon

3462
02:19:49,723 --> 02:19:51,725
us to manage these much more closely

3463
02:19:51,725 --> 02:19:53,725
than

3464
02:19:53,727 --> 02:19:54,728
we have, to the commentators earlier

3465
02:19:54,728 --> 02:19:56,728
point,

3466
02:19:59,733 --> 02:20:00,734
you know, the annual two, three, 5%

3467
02:20:00,734 --> 02:20:01,735
we need to

3468
02:20:01,735 --> 02:20:03,737
do --it needs to keep up. Because

3469
02:20:03,737 --> 02:20:07,337
this is a lot to hit

3470
02:20:09,743 --> 02:20:11,743
them with.

3471
02:20:12,713 --> 02:20:13,714
I

3472
02:20:13,714 --> 02:20:14,715
get it. And I share that frustration.

3473
02:20:14,715 --> 02:20:16,717
I'm just trying to figure out how

3474
02:20:16,717 --> 02:20:18,719
we manage it and I think the subcommittee

3475
02:20:18,719 --> 02:20:19,720
has come forward with as

3476
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:21,722
good as a recommendation as there's

3477
02:20:21,722 --> 02:20:22,723
going to be at this point. But,

3478
02:20:22,723 --> 02:20:24,725
yeah. Those are just some of my thoughts

3479
02:20:24,725 --> 02:20:27,125
that I have, so,

3480
02:20:30,731 --> 02:20:31,732
thank you.

3481
02:20:31,732 --> 02:20:33,732
>> yeah. I

3482
02:20:33,734 --> 02:20:36,134
just had a question

3483
02:20:39,740 --> 02:20:40,741
for staff.

3484
02:20:40,741 --> 02:20:42,743
based on the information that was

3485
02:20:42,743 --> 02:20:44,745
submitted here to council, can you

3486
02:20:44,745 --> 02:20:45,712
all kind of speak to the expenditures

3487
02:20:45,712 --> 02:20:46,713
and

3488
02:20:46,713 --> 02:20:48,715
operational versus capital, just so we

3489
02:20:48,715 --> 02:20:50,715
have clarity?

3490
02:20:54,721 --> 02:20:56,721
>> yes.

3491
02:21:03,730 --> 02:21:04,731
q

3492
02:21:04,731 --> 02:21:05,732
for that. I was just going to ask

3493
02:21:05,732 --> 02:21:06,733
if I could make some clarifications

3494
02:21:06,733 --> 02:21:07,734
on

3495
02:21:07,734 --> 02:21:09,736
that. So, one of the things to understand

3496
02:21:09,736 --> 02:21:10,737
about the marina enterprise fund is

3497
02:21:10,737 --> 02:21:11,738
it

3498
02:21:11,738 --> 02:21:12,739
has five funds and those five funds

3499
02:21:12,739 --> 02:21:13,740
are divided up into different things.

3500
02:21:13,740 --> 02:21:14,741
you

3501
02:21:14,741 --> 02:21:15,742
have capital. You have the marina

3502
02:21:15,742 --> 02:21:16,743
itself. The waterfront area. There's

3503
02:21:16,743 --> 02:21:17,744
one for --what

3504
02:21:17,744 --> 02:21:18,712
is it? Railroad. And what was the

3505
02:21:18,712 --> 02:21:20,714
last one? And debt service for

3506
02:21:20,714 --> 02:21:22,716
debt service. The amounts that we

3507
02:21:22,716 --> 02:21:24,718
put into this presentation were focused on the

3508
02:21:24,718 --> 02:21:27,721
marina and that is fund 78. What kevin presented

3509
02:21:27,721 --> 02:21:28,722
here was how mars

3510
02:21:28,722 --> 02:21:30,724
budget from what their revenue might've

3511
02:21:30,724 --> 02:21:31,725
been from the 10

3512
02:21:31,725 --> 02:21:33,727
year projection. But it is important

3513
02:21:33,727 --> 02:21:37,327
to note on this back in

3514
02:21:39,733 --> 02:21:40,734
2025 and a lot of this year, we

3515
02:21:40,734 --> 02:21:42,736
had more slips. We had a lot more

3516
02:21:42,736 --> 02:21:43,737
slips. We had the bait shop which

3517
02:21:43,737 --> 02:21:45,737
was

3518
02:21:45,739 --> 02:21:46,740
bringing in revenue. All of

3519
02:21:46,740 --> 02:21:48,742
that revenue went back to the operations

3520
02:21:48,742 --> 02:21:49,743
of the marina. Over time, as we have

3521
02:21:49,743 --> 02:21:51,745
gone through the plaintiff the deficit

3522
02:21:51,745 --> 02:21:54,145
and having to close

3523
02:21:57,718 --> 02:21:58,719
down docs,

3524
02:21:58,719 --> 02:22:00,721
losing boaters and so forth, that

3525
02:22:00,721 --> 02:22:01,722
is what has changed and shifted it

3526
02:22:01,722 --> 02:22:02,723
to what

3527
02:22:02,723 --> 02:22:03,724
we are getting out to the point of

3528
02:22:03,724 --> 02:22:04,725
the discussion we are having tonight

3529
02:22:04,725 --> 02:22:06,727
with the amount. So this is just almar's

3530
02:22:06,727 --> 02:22:07,728
part. It doesn't include --because

3531
02:22:07,728 --> 02:22:08,729
one

3532
02:22:08,729 --> 02:22:09,730
of the things that the city took on

3533
02:22:09,730 --> 02:22:12,730
was a lot of the

3534
02:22:12,733 --> 02:22:15,733
utility cost. There was a

3535
02:22:15,736 --> 02:22:18,736
set utility that they had

3536
02:22:21,742 --> 02:22:23,742
almar

3537
02:22:24,745 --> 02:22:26,713
that they were paying and the rest

3538
02:22:26,713 --> 02:22:27,714
that the city covered in a different fund.

3539
02:22:27,714 --> 02:22:29,716
this is not accurate when you're talking

3540
02:22:29,716 --> 02:22:30,717
about the bigger picture of the entire

3541
02:22:30,717 --> 02:22:32,717
arena. --marina. It

3542
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,720
is only telling part of

3543
02:22:36,723 --> 02:22:38,723
the story.

3544
02:22:39,726 --> 02:22:41,726
expenditures --none of

3545
02:22:41,728 --> 02:22:42,729
them made it was collected in fund 78

3546
02:22:42,729 --> 02:22:45,732
goes to any of these types of

3547
02:22:45,732 --> 02:22:46,733
items so those all come out of fund

3548
02:22:46,733 --> 02:22:47,734
74,

3549
02:22:47,734 --> 02:22:48,735
which is our capital fund. So the

3550
02:22:48,735 --> 02:22:51,735
marina --the boaters of the

3551
02:22:54,741 --> 02:22:56,741
marina

3552
02:22:57,744 --> 02:22:58,712
do not pay for these

3553
02:22:58,712 --> 02:22:59,713
items. That something that's important

3554
02:22:59,713 --> 02:23:00,714
to clarify. I just wanted to make sure

3555
02:23:00,714 --> 02:23:02,714
--and that's

3556
02:23:02,716 --> 02:23:03,717
--all the --the peer --the work at

3557
02:23:03,717 --> 02:23:06,117
--doing the capital project

3558
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:08,720
--the land

3559
02:23:09,723 --> 02:23:11,723
use plan

3560
02:23:15,729 --> 02:23:17,731
which is a requirement by the state

3561
02:23:17,731 --> 02:23:18,732
of california. That was not paid for

3562
02:23:18,732 --> 02:23:19,733
by the boaters. Just wanted to verify

3563
02:23:19,733 --> 02:23:20,734
that on those two points.

3564
02:23:20,734 --> 02:23:21,735
>> sorry,

3565
02:23:21,735 --> 02:23:22,736
joe. Just to clarify, then, where

3566
02:23:22,736 --> 02:23:23,737
do those funds

3567
02:23:23,737 --> 02:23:24,738
come from?

3568
02:23:24,738 --> 02:23:25,739
>> a little bit of everything.

3569
02:23:25,739 --> 02:23:26,740
from the general fund, krantz.

3570
02:23:26,740 --> 02:23:27,741
>>

3571
02:23:27,741 --> 02:23:28,742
for the marina operations, since almar's

3572
02:23:28,742 --> 02:23:29,743
budget is not paying especially the

3573
02:23:29,743 --> 02:23:30,744
water

3574
02:23:30,744 --> 02:23:31,745
bill and insurance and a lot of the

3575
02:23:31,745 --> 02:23:33,745
other,

3576
02:23:36,717 --> 02:23:37,718
costs --doing maintenance on

3577
02:23:37,718 --> 02:23:39,720
the marina itself. Those funds before

3578
02:23:39,720 --> 02:23:40,721
I come up to the 2023 fiscal year,

3579
02:23:40,721 --> 02:23:42,721
the

3580
02:23:42,723 --> 02:23:44,723
funds itself [

3581
02:23:44,725 --> 02:23:45,726
inaudible ] in particular for 78 we

3582
02:23:45,726 --> 02:23:47,726
talk

3583
02:23:51,732 --> 02:23:54,735
about, --$97 in deficits in the balance

3584
02:23:54,735 --> 02:23:57,738
--and that's on top of the

3585
02:23:57,738 --> 02:23:59,740
$109,000 loan we already loaned

3586
02:23:59,740 --> 02:24:00,741
them at that point in time. The total

3587
02:24:00,741 --> 02:24:03,741
deficit before fiscal year 2024 is

3588
02:24:03,744 --> 02:24:05,744
$506,000 for marina operations.

3589
02:24:06,713 --> 02:24:07,714
so almar's budget in here is just

3590
02:24:07,714 --> 02:24:09,714
a

3591
02:24:09,716 --> 02:24:12,716
part of it. Only. There's

3592
02:24:15,722 --> 02:24:17,722
a more

3593
02:24:30,737 --> 02:24:31,738
portion and then the portion the city

3594
02:24:31,738 --> 02:24:32,739
handles the

3595
02:24:32,739 --> 02:24:33,740
operation as well. [ inaudible ]

3596
02:24:33,740 --> 02:24:34,741
>>

3597
02:24:34,741 --> 02:24:35,742
can I add the thing I feel like

3598
02:24:35,742 --> 02:24:37,744
neither of you mentioned? I requested

3599
02:24:37,744 --> 02:24:38,712
a copy of the fund 78 so I

3600
02:24:38,712 --> 02:24:39,713
could see the individual line items,

3601
02:24:39,713 --> 02:24:40,714
and the largest line item is salary

3602
02:24:40,714 --> 02:24:41,715
and benefits

3603
02:24:41,715 --> 02:24:42,716
for the employees that work at the

3604
02:24:42,716 --> 02:24:44,718
marina. Right? And that's a 300,000

3605
02:24:44,718 --> 02:24:46,720
--so all of the repairs that are being

3606
02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:47,721
made using this budget, but we

3607
02:24:47,721 --> 02:24:49,723
are paying them, and so I think this

3608
02:24:49,723 --> 02:24:50,724
conversation feels not quite --

3609
02:24:50,724 --> 02:24:53,727
we are not comparing the same buckets

3610
02:24:53,727 --> 02:24:55,729
of monies. We are talking about one

3611
02:24:55,729 --> 02:24:56,730
thing over here and

3612
02:24:56,730 --> 02:24:57,731
then they are talking about something

3613
02:24:57,731 --> 02:24:58,732
completely different, so I don't know

3614
02:24:58,732 --> 02:25:01,132
if it is worth

3615
02:25:01,735 --> 02:25:03,735
providing the council

3616
02:25:04,738 --> 02:25:06,738
the full

3617
02:25:10,744 --> 02:25:11,745
fund

3618
02:25:11,745 --> 02:25:12,713
78 to talk to if we have additional

3619
02:25:12,713 --> 02:25:13,714
questions about this because that

3620
02:25:13,714 --> 02:25:14,715
has been

3621
02:25:14,715 --> 02:25:15,716
--has always felt a little awkward,

3622
02:25:15,716 --> 02:25:16,717
and I think that the deficit that

3623
02:25:16,717 --> 02:25:17,718
you

3624
02:25:17,718 --> 02:25:19,720
are talking about, and it does not

3625
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:21,720
--you said

3626
02:25:22,723 --> 02:25:23,724
390,000

3627
02:25:23,724 --> 02:25:24,725
deficit but that does not include

3628
02:25:24,725 --> 02:25:25,726
the debt service to write to the state,

3629
02:25:25,726 --> 02:25:26,727
so

3630
02:25:26,727 --> 02:25:28,729
it's in addition to that and that's

3631
02:25:28,729 --> 02:25:31,732
how we are coming up with

3632
02:25:31,732 --> 02:25:32,733
this 500 some odd

3633
02:25:32,733 --> 02:25:33,734
thousand year rite, of the loans we

3634
02:25:33,734 --> 02:25:35,736
are giving to the fund and those numbers

3635
02:25:35,736 --> 02:25:36,737
are never really presented at the

3636
02:25:36,737 --> 02:25:37,738
same time so I think from our perspective

3637
02:25:37,738 --> 02:25:39,738
it

3638
02:25:39,740 --> 02:25:40,741
gets confusing why we are saying how

3639
02:25:40,741 --> 02:25:42,743
we are spending the

3640
02:25:42,743 --> 02:25:43,744
money.

3641
02:25:43,744 --> 02:25:44,745
>> I can help because I know I

3642
02:25:44,745 --> 02:25:46,713
brought this up in my

3643
02:25:46,713 --> 02:25:49,713
last presentation, so there are

3644
02:25:49,716 --> 02:25:51,716
two things.

3645
02:25:59,726 --> 02:26:01,728
there is operational, right? And there's

3646
02:26:01,728 --> 02:26:03,730
a loan, as well. In the

3647
02:26:03,730 --> 02:26:04,731
mix of the $560,000, so what we started putting

3648
02:26:04,731 --> 02:26:05,732
into our budget and also the

3649
02:26:05,732 --> 02:26:07,734
forecast, and I'm sorry, june, if

3650
02:26:07,734 --> 02:26:10,737
I'm off on the number but I recall

3651
02:26:10,737 --> 02:26:12,737
it is

3652
02:26:13,740 --> 02:26:14,741
$375,000 for f3

3653
02:26:14,741 --> 02:26:16,743
operations. Then I get that correct?

3654
02:26:16,743 --> 02:26:17,744
>> yes. >> there is the loan

3655
02:26:17,744 --> 02:26:18,745
payment and then the utility payment

3656
02:26:18,745 --> 02:26:19,713
that makes up the 516,000 print in

3657
02:26:19,713 --> 02:26:20,714
ongoing years it

3658
02:26:20,714 --> 02:26:21,715
is 650,000, right, in total. There

3659
02:26:21,715 --> 02:26:22,716
was capital projects mentioned earlier.

3660
02:26:22,716 --> 02:26:23,717
that's a whole

3661
02:26:23,717 --> 02:26:27,317
different bucket, but what I have

3662
02:26:31,725 --> 02:26:33,725
to reinforcement

3663
02:26:37,731 --> 02:26:38,732
--reinforce with the council --this

3664
02:26:38,732 --> 02:26:40,734
council in prior councils, by the

3665
02:26:40,734 --> 02:26:41,735
way, I have taken money out of the

3666
02:26:41,735 --> 02:26:42,736
reserves

3667
02:26:42,736 --> 02:26:43,737
to pay for those capital improvements,

3668
02:26:43,737 --> 02:26:44,738
so, either, whether it's operations

3669
02:26:44,738 --> 02:26:45,739
or whether it

3670
02:26:45,739 --> 02:26:46,740
is capital, we have been taking money

3671
02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:48,742
out of reserves for

3672
02:26:48,742 --> 02:26:49,743
the marina, and it's unsustainable.

3673
02:26:49,743 --> 02:26:50,744
one point I do want to

3674
02:26:50,744 --> 02:26:52,713
make, too, and this is where it is

3675
02:26:52,713 --> 02:26:55,716
unfortunate because there is an impact,

3676
02:26:55,716 --> 02:26:57,716
right?

3677
02:26:58,719 --> 02:27:00,719
two people,

3678
02:27:09,730 --> 02:27:10,731
and I have set up here for the last three

3679
02:27:10,731 --> 02:27:11,732
years having to take similar

3680
02:27:11,732 --> 02:27:12,733
conversations on our city administration

3681
02:27:12,733 --> 02:27:13,734
fees, that were significantly behind

3682
02:27:13,734 --> 02:27:14,735
--you remember a few

3683
02:27:14,735 --> 02:27:16,737
years ago, mike chandler had to bring,

3684
02:27:16,737 --> 02:27:17,738
you know, we hadn't touched those

3685
02:27:17,738 --> 02:27:18,739
in

3686
02:27:18,739 --> 02:27:19,740
10 years and we had to just rip the

3687
02:27:19,740 --> 02:27:20,741
band-aid off. And in same with

3688
02:27:20,741 --> 02:27:22,743
our recreation fees. Just two years

3689
02:27:22,743 --> 02:27:23,744
ago, had to bring fee increases of

3690
02:27:23,744 --> 02:27:24,745
50,

3691
02:27:24,745 --> 02:27:27,745
60% because we hadn't touched the

3692
02:27:28,715 --> 02:27:30,715
fees, and

3693
02:27:30,717 --> 02:27:31,718
--in 10, 15, 20 years, but at the

3694
02:27:31,718 --> 02:27:32,719
same time, we are sitting here,

3695
02:27:32,719 --> 02:27:34,721
cutting every department down to its

3696
02:27:34,721 --> 02:27:35,722
core. We almost had to freeze positions

3697
02:27:35,722 --> 02:27:37,722
this past

3698
02:27:38,725 --> 02:27:40,727
fiscal year. Right, so it's very difficult.

3699
02:27:40,727 --> 02:27:42,729
it's not that we

3700
02:27:42,729 --> 02:27:43,730
don't empathize with that user groups

3701
02:27:43,730 --> 02:27:45,730
who are

3702
02:27:46,733 --> 02:27:48,733
affected by

3703
02:27:49,736 --> 02:27:51,736
this, but,

3704
02:27:57,744 --> 02:27:58,745
everyone in the community --tonight,

3705
02:27:58,745 --> 02:27:59,713
it's obviously the boaters. Right?

3706
02:27:59,713 --> 02:28:00,714
and

3707
02:28:00,714 --> 02:28:01,715
the live aboards, but in the past,

3708
02:28:01,715 --> 02:28:02,716
we've had to deal with other user

3709
02:28:02,716 --> 02:28:03,717
groups

3710
02:28:03,717 --> 02:28:04,718
within the committee, so it's never

3711
02:28:04,718 --> 02:28:05,719
easy, and I just want to recognize

3712
02:28:05,719 --> 02:28:07,721
that, but at the same time, there's

3713
02:28:07,721 --> 02:28:09,721
really not

3714
02:28:09,723 --> 02:28:10,724
much --we are operating at a skeleton

3715
02:28:10,724 --> 02:28:11,725
at this point in the city. It's

3716
02:28:11,725 --> 02:28:13,727
a give-and-take and I recognize a

3717
02:28:13,727 --> 02:28:16,127
difficult decision in front

3718
02:28:19,733 --> 02:28:21,733
of you.

3719
02:28:21,735 --> 02:28:22,736
>> okay, so, lauren, thank you for

3720
02:28:22,736 --> 02:28:24,738
that context. Very helpful. So

3721
02:28:24,738 --> 02:28:25,739
I guess sort of --assuming --okay

3722
02:28:25,739 --> 02:28:27,739
--so we are

3723
02:28:28,742 --> 02:28:30,744
going to act on

3724
02:28:30,744 --> 02:28:31,745
this tonight. What is the next step?

3725
02:28:31,745 --> 02:28:34,745
how do we ensure there's

3726
02:28:37,718 --> 02:28:38,719
regular reviews --that we are bird

3727
02:28:38,719 --> 02:28:39,720
dogging this

3728
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:40,721
and doing actual work necessary to

3729
02:28:40,721 --> 02:28:42,721
make sure

3730
02:28:46,727 --> 02:28:48,727
that our

3731
02:28:49,730 --> 02:28:50,731
dose that we are keeping up with

3732
02:28:50,731 --> 02:28:52,733
the actual expenses, if that makes

3733
02:28:52,733 --> 02:28:53,734
sense. What reassurance can we provide

3734
02:28:53,734 --> 02:28:54,735
to the stakeholders

3735
02:28:54,735 --> 02:28:55,736
moving forward that we are not going to

3736
02:28:55,736 --> 02:28:57,738
find ourselves in a situation like

3737
02:28:57,738 --> 02:28:58,739
this. What are the sort of --what

3738
02:28:58,739 --> 02:29:00,741
have we learned? What sort of

3739
02:29:00,741 --> 02:29:01,742
policy changes will we be making to

3740
02:29:01,742 --> 02:29:04,742
ensure that a future council

3741
02:29:04,745 --> 02:29:06,713
doesn't find themselves in a situation

3742
02:29:06,713 --> 02:29:07,714
like this.

3743
02:29:07,714 --> 02:29:08,715
>> it's already done. You adopted

3744
02:29:08,715 --> 02:29:10,715
a

3745
02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:15,720
strategic plan.

3746
02:29:15,722 --> 02:29:16,723
it spells out loud and clear that

3747
02:29:16,723 --> 02:29:18,725
this council is committed to reducing

3748
02:29:18,725 --> 02:29:19,726
subsidies that are straining the general

3749
02:29:19,726 --> 02:29:20,727
funds. So we have it very clearly

3750
02:29:20,727 --> 02:29:22,727
spelled

3751
02:29:25,732 --> 02:29:27,732
out.

3752
02:29:31,738 --> 02:29:33,740
in prior fee increases that

3753
02:29:33,740 --> 02:29:34,741
we've taken in other areas, though,

3754
02:29:34,741 --> 02:29:35,742
you have consistently said to us,

3755
02:29:35,742 --> 02:29:36,743
yeah, let's put

3756
02:29:36,743 --> 02:29:37,744
this on a more routine schedule, so,

3757
02:29:37,744 --> 02:29:38,745
for example, as you know, our administrative

3758
02:29:38,745 --> 02:29:39,713
fees

3759
02:29:39,713 --> 02:29:40,714
come every year. Our rec fees come

3760
02:29:40,714 --> 02:29:42,716
every --years, so things don't fall

3761
02:29:42,716 --> 02:29:43,717
behind. Same --same potential here.

3762
02:29:43,717 --> 02:29:44,718
once very challenging here is we have

3763
02:29:44,718 --> 02:29:46,718
a project

3764
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:49,720
coming up, so it's hard

3765
02:29:49,723 --> 02:29:50,724
to know when we would actually come with

3766
02:29:50,724 --> 02:29:52,724
another fee

3767
02:29:52,726 --> 02:29:54,726
increase in

3768
02:29:54,728 --> 02:29:55,729
the future, because, we don't --we

3769
02:29:55,729 --> 02:29:56,730
don't really understand the timeline

3770
02:29:56,730 --> 02:29:58,730
with

3771
02:29:58,732 --> 02:29:59,733
the project, and the other piece of

3772
02:29:59,733 --> 02:30:01,733
this

3773
02:30:01,735 --> 02:30:04,735
is when we come in

3774
02:30:04,738 --> 02:30:06,738
the spring

3775
02:30:13,714 --> 02:30:15,716
and jim and I

3776
02:30:15,716 --> 02:30:16,717
bring, you know, a discussion about

3777
02:30:16,717 --> 02:30:17,718
long-term fiscal sustainability, I

3778
02:30:17,718 --> 02:30:18,719
think we will have a

3779
02:30:18,719 --> 02:30:19,720
better sense there about what our

3780
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:20,721
options are on how to close the gap

3781
02:30:20,721 --> 02:30:21,722
at

3782
02:30:21,722 --> 02:30:22,723
the marina, so it's hard to answer

3783
02:30:22,723 --> 02:30:23,724
now, whether in another two years

3784
02:30:23,724 --> 02:30:24,725
we

3785
02:30:24,725 --> 02:30:26,727
are going to be coming back --because

3786
02:30:26,727 --> 02:30:27,728
the project might be moving in

3787
02:30:27,728 --> 02:30:29,730
a direction at that point, where,

3788
02:30:29,730 --> 02:30:32,733
yeah. Exactly. It's hard to know

3789
02:30:32,733 --> 02:30:33,734
today.

3790
02:30:33,734 --> 02:30:35,736
>> no. I --I --

3791
02:30:35,736 --> 02:30:36,737
I recognize

3792
02:30:36,737 --> 02:30:38,739
the discomfort. I'm sitting here,

3793
02:30:38,739 --> 02:30:40,739
having

3794
02:30:41,742 --> 02:30:42,743
flashbacks because my day job, I

3795
02:30:42,743 --> 02:30:44,745
work for the state, and we went through

3796
02:30:44,745 --> 02:30:46,745
this same

3797
02:30:50,717 --> 02:30:52,717
exercise, where,

3798
02:30:59,726 --> 02:31:00,727
fees for the work we do had

3799
02:31:00,727 --> 02:31:01,728
not been adjusted for 20, 30 years,

3800
02:31:01,728 --> 02:31:02,729
and for some of our licensees, it

3801
02:31:02,729 --> 02:31:03,730
was

3802
02:31:03,730 --> 02:31:06,733
sticker shock, and we can get into

3803
02:31:06,733 --> 02:31:08,735
why previous administrations weren't

3804
02:31:08,735 --> 02:31:11,735
raising fees every two or

3805
02:31:11,738 --> 02:31:15,938
3% per year, but we had to make

3806
02:31:17,744 --> 02:31:19,744
the adjustment

3807
02:31:21,715 --> 02:31:22,716
because if we didn't, we were moving

3808
02:31:22,716 --> 02:31:23,717
towards the brink of insolvency, but

3809
02:31:23,717 --> 02:31:25,717
in some

3810
02:31:25,719 --> 02:31:26,720
cases, we did do a step approach so

3811
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:28,720
over

3812
02:31:32,726 --> 02:31:33,727
two years, in some cases

3813
02:31:33,727 --> 02:31:35,729
we would say, hey, we would work with

3814
02:31:35,729 --> 02:31:38,129
licensees to provide some

3815
02:31:38,732 --> 02:31:39,733
type of payment

3816
02:31:39,733 --> 02:31:41,735
plan if there was --was --was hardship,

3817
02:31:41,735 --> 02:31:43,737
but it's about writing

3818
02:31:43,737 --> 02:31:47,741
the ship and very similar to what

3819
02:31:47,741 --> 02:31:49,741
we are

3820
02:31:53,714 --> 02:31:55,714
experiences tonight,

3821
02:31:56,717 --> 02:31:58,719
even with the increases, it's still

3822
02:31:58,719 --> 02:31:59,720
not covering all of the cost. But

3823
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:01,720
we have to

3824
02:32:02,723 --> 02:32:04,723
try to

3825
02:32:05,726 --> 02:32:06,727
do something to try

3826
02:32:06,727 --> 02:32:08,729
to prevent the bleeding. Now, if we

3827
02:32:08,729 --> 02:32:10,729
were down

3828
02:32:11,732 --> 02:32:12,733
the path with

3829
02:32:12,733 --> 02:32:13,734
some other projects on the horizon,

3830
02:32:13,734 --> 02:32:14,735
we probably wouldn't be sitting here

3831
02:32:14,735 --> 02:32:15,736
having

3832
02:32:15,736 --> 02:32:17,738
this conversation, but unfortunately,

3833
02:32:17,738 --> 02:32:19,738
we

3834
02:32:20,741 --> 02:32:22,741
aren't there yet.

3835
02:32:22,743 --> 02:32:26,713
but we have to try to do something

3836
02:32:26,713 --> 02:32:29,713
because, again, this is taking

3837
02:32:29,716 --> 02:32:31,716
away from our

3838
02:32:32,719 --> 02:32:35,119
general fund and if

3839
02:32:35,722 --> 02:32:37,722
our reserves

3840
02:32:37,724 --> 02:32:38,725
go below a certain threshold with

3841
02:32:38,725 --> 02:32:41,728
our general fund, then this is

3842
02:32:41,728 --> 02:32:43,730
a very different conversation here.

3843
02:32:43,730 --> 02:32:44,731
that we are having as a council and

3844
02:32:44,731 --> 02:32:47,131
having to talk of

3845
02:32:50,737 --> 02:32:52,737
--

3846
02:32:56,743 --> 02:32:57,744
to

3847
02:32:57,744 --> 02:32:59,713
our residents about it. I know having

3848
02:32:59,713 --> 02:33:00,714
gone through it, it is an uncomfortable

3849
02:33:00,714 --> 02:33:02,716
situation. You're talking about increases

3850
02:33:02,716 --> 02:33:05,716
and my boat is stuck

3851
02:33:08,722 --> 02:33:10,724
in mud. I --I --I hear

3852
02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,725
it. So, we are just trying to --given

3853
02:33:11,725 --> 02:33:13,727
the hand that we have

3854
02:33:13,727 --> 02:33:14,728
to play, to just tried to do something

3855
02:33:14,728 --> 02:33:17,731
to mitigate what we are having to

3856
02:33:17,731 --> 02:33:19,731
fund to keep

3857
02:33:20,734 --> 02:33:23,734
the marina operational at this

3858
02:33:23,737 --> 02:33:24,738
time, so.

3859
02:33:24,738 --> 02:33:26,738
>>

3860
02:33:26,740 --> 02:33:29,140
I just want to

3861
02:33:31,745 --> 02:33:32,713
remind everyone that we are in a very

3862
02:33:32,713 --> 02:33:35,716
different place than we were just

3863
02:33:35,716 --> 02:33:37,716
a couple of

3864
02:33:38,719 --> 02:33:40,719
years ago.

3865
02:33:44,725 --> 02:33:45,726
there's been posts on rants and raves

3866
02:33:45,726 --> 02:33:46,727
where people say,

3867
02:33:46,727 --> 02:33:47,728
have they even dredged up marine in

3868
02:33:47,728 --> 02:33:48,729
the last few decades

3869
02:33:48,729 --> 02:33:50,731
and someone that jackson says, yes,

3870
02:33:50,731 --> 02:33:52,731
we dredged in 2020 22

3871
02:33:56,737 --> 02:33:58,739
-- 2022 --and the seawalls --

3872
02:33:58,739 --> 02:33:59,740
we just finished the repairs of the

3873
02:33:59,740 --> 02:34:02,740
fishing pier which blocked an

3874
02:34:05,746 --> 02:34:07,714
entire hole that had been set a minting

3875
02:34:07,714 --> 02:34:08,715
in that whole side of the marina and

3876
02:34:08,715 --> 02:34:10,717
one of the things that has been

3877
02:34:10,717 --> 02:34:11,718
brought up over the last couple of

3878
02:34:11,718 --> 02:34:12,719
years is

3879
02:34:12,719 --> 02:34:14,721
talking about public-private partnership.

3880
02:34:14,721 --> 02:34:15,722
that's the direction we need to go

3881
02:34:15,722 --> 02:34:16,723
and anyone who

3882
02:34:16,723 --> 02:34:17,724
has been here knows that is what our council

3883
02:34:17,724 --> 02:34:19,726
had to present to

3884
02:34:19,726 --> 02:34:20,727
us in july and we are in the process

3885
02:34:20,727 --> 02:34:21,728
of talking through some of

3886
02:34:21,728 --> 02:34:23,730
that, so we are not raising rates

3887
02:34:23,730 --> 02:34:25,730
and

3888
02:34:26,733 --> 02:34:28,733
doing nothing.

3889
02:34:28,735 --> 02:34:29,736
we are raising rates while we are

3890
02:34:29,736 --> 02:34:32,739
doing a bunch of other stuff and

3891
02:34:32,739 --> 02:34:35,742
I do want to thank you

3892
02:34:35,742 --> 02:34:37,744
for including all of the work that

3893
02:34:37,744 --> 02:34:38,745
f3 has done that again, a couple of

3894
02:34:38,745 --> 02:34:41,145
years ago --last december

3895
02:34:41,715 --> 02:34:43,715
--f3

3896
02:34:43,717 --> 02:34:44,718
has only been around since last january.

3897
02:34:44,718 --> 02:34:45,719
at this time last year, we couldn't

3898
02:34:45,719 --> 02:34:46,720
you

3899
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:47,721
all in the face and say that things

3900
02:34:47,721 --> 02:34:49,721
were happening because

3901
02:34:50,724 --> 02:34:54,924
a lot of that repair was not

3902
02:34:55,729 --> 02:34:56,730
getting done, and in this calendar

3903
02:34:56,730 --> 02:34:57,731
year, I've seen so

3904
02:34:57,731 --> 02:34:59,733
many improvements. I acknowledge they're

3905
02:34:59,733 --> 02:35:03,333
not perfect but we've all been

3906
02:35:05,739 --> 02:35:06,740
down there. We've all taken --

3907
02:35:06,740 --> 02:35:07,741
we either have friends with bullets

3908
02:35:07,741 --> 02:35:08,742
or we've done field trips. We know

3909
02:35:08,742 --> 02:35:09,743
what it looks like

3910
02:35:09,743 --> 02:35:11,745
and it has improved significantly,

3911
02:35:11,745 --> 02:35:14,715
so I recognize that --what you

3912
02:35:14,715 --> 02:35:16,715
said --

3913
02:35:16,717 --> 02:35:17,718
we are always the ones stuck approving

3914
02:35:17,718 --> 02:35:18,719
rate increases which is super frustrating,

3915
02:35:18,719 --> 02:35:19,720
but

3916
02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:20,721
we know that it's not just the rate

3917
02:35:20,721 --> 02:35:22,721
increases. This

3918
02:35:22,723 --> 02:35:23,724
is a much bigger project and a much

3919
02:35:23,724 --> 02:35:27,324
bigger problem and we are here

3920
02:35:29,730 --> 02:35:31,730
for it,

3921
02:35:35,736 --> 02:35:36,737
and we are playing the wrong game

3922
02:35:36,737 --> 02:35:37,738
for the

3923
02:35:37,738 --> 02:35:38,739
marina and so I appreciate, lauren,

3924
02:35:38,739 --> 02:35:39,740
your comment about, we don't know

3925
02:35:39,740 --> 02:35:40,741
where we

3926
02:35:40,741 --> 02:35:41,742
are going to be because potentially,

3927
02:35:41,742 --> 02:35:42,743
you know, this time next year, we

3928
02:35:42,743 --> 02:35:44,743
are

3929
02:35:44,745 --> 02:35:46,745
going

3930
02:35:47,714 --> 02:35:49,714
to be

3931
02:35:53,720 --> 02:35:55,720
talking about

3932
02:35:55,722 --> 02:35:56,723
steps 4 for that partnership. We are

3933
02:35:56,723 --> 02:35:58,725
going to be in a different place

3934
02:35:58,725 --> 02:35:59,726
in a couple of months if everything

3935
02:35:59,726 --> 02:36:01,728
goes the way that it was propose to

3936
02:36:01,728 --> 02:36:02,729
us over the summer, so, yeah. That

3937
02:36:02,729 --> 02:36:04,731
was my comment because I know we have

3938
02:36:04,731 --> 02:36:05,732
received lots of --some frustration

3939
02:36:05,732 --> 02:36:06,733
from the public and from people here

3940
02:36:06,733 --> 02:36:07,734
tonight.

3941
02:36:07,734 --> 02:36:09,736
I'm sorry. We already close to the

3942
02:36:09,736 --> 02:36:10,737
public comment process but I'd

3943
02:36:10,737 --> 02:36:11,738
be happy to talk to you after the

3944
02:36:11,738 --> 02:36:12,739
meeting. Yeah. Thanks. So, let's see.

3945
02:36:12,739 --> 02:36:13,740
tonight, it's

3946
02:36:13,740 --> 02:36:14,741
the public hearing. We are supposed

3947
02:36:14,741 --> 02:36:16,743
to adopt a resolution. Was there any

3948
02:36:16,743 --> 02:36:18,745
concern --any changes we wanted to

3949
02:36:18,745 --> 02:36:19,713
make? I

3950
02:36:19,713 --> 02:36:21,715
believe option three was on the table

3951
02:36:21,715 --> 02:36:23,715
tonight. It was

3952
02:36:27,721 --> 02:36:29,721
to reduce

3953
02:36:29,723 --> 02:36:30,724
from the 75, 25 to the 50, 50 split.

3954
02:36:30,724 --> 02:36:31,725
were

3955
02:36:31,725 --> 02:36:33,727
there any other changes that people

3956
02:36:33,727 --> 02:36:37,327
wanted to make or based on

3957
02:36:39,733 --> 02:36:42,733
comments received. I think kevin

3958
02:36:45,739 --> 02:36:47,739
for his

3959
02:36:47,741 --> 02:36:49,743
comments about changing the narrative.

3960
02:36:49,743 --> 02:36:50,744
I think that is absolutely a fair

3961
02:36:50,744 --> 02:36:51,745
comment. Just understanding that the

3962
02:36:51,745 --> 02:36:53,745
folks that are

3963
02:36:57,718 --> 02:36:59,718
renting slips,

3964
02:37:18,739 --> 02:37:19,740
they are --

3965
02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:21,742
they are not spending $500,000 a year.

3966
02:37:21,742 --> 02:37:22,743
so that's why I think that's the narrative

3967
02:37:22,743 --> 02:37:24,745
he wanted to make so I just wanted

3968
02:37:24,745 --> 02:37:25,746
to acknowledge that. Thank you for

3969
02:37:25,746 --> 02:37:26,713
pointing

3970
02:37:26,713 --> 02:37:27,714
that out. So what handed us was the

3971
02:37:27,714 --> 02:37:28,715
expenses associated with renting slips,

3972
02:37:28,715 --> 02:37:29,716
but

3973
02:37:29,716 --> 02:37:30,717
then we did have a follow-up conversation

3974
02:37:30,717 --> 02:37:31,718
about the other expenses that the

3975
02:37:31,718 --> 02:37:32,719
city has

3976
02:37:32,719 --> 02:37:33,720
to deal with. So. So, anyway, yeah.

3977
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:34,721
was there anything anyone wanted to

3978
02:37:34,721 --> 02:37:35,722
add

3979
02:37:35,722 --> 02:37:36,723
before we --anyone would like to make

3980
02:37:36,723 --> 02:37:37,724
a motion then, as written?

3981
02:37:37,724 --> 02:37:38,725
>>

3982
02:37:38,725 --> 02:37:39,726
I make a motion that we adopt a resolution

3983
02:37:39,726 --> 02:37:40,727
amending the marina fee schedule related

3984
02:37:40,727 --> 02:37:42,729
to mooring, utility, and liveaboard

3985
02:37:42,729 --> 02:37:43,730
fees

3986
02:37:43,730 --> 02:37:45,732
>> second. >> all in favor,

3987
02:37:45,732 --> 02:37:47,732
please say

3988
02:37:48,735 --> 02:37:50,735
aye .

3989
02:37:51,738 --> 02:37:54,138
>> aye. >> motion passes. >> all

3990
02:37:54,741 --> 02:37:56,741
right. Our next

3991
02:37:57,744 --> 02:37:59,744
item is

3992
02:38:03,717 --> 02:38:05,719
conduct a public hearing, waive

3993
02:38:05,719 --> 02:38:06,720
the reading, and introduce an ordinance

3994
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:09,720
in approving zoning text amendment

3995
02:38:09,723 --> 02:38:11,723
to the mmc.

3996
02:38:15,729 --> 02:38:16,730
thanks.

3997
02:38:16,730 --> 02:38:18,730
>>

3998
02:38:21,735 --> 02:38:24,735
thank you, mayor zorn. I

3999
02:38:24,738 --> 02:38:27,738
am here to discuss several

4000
02:38:30,744 --> 02:38:32,744
text amendments.

4001
02:38:36,717 --> 02:38:39,117
[ inaudible - low volume ]

4002
02:38:42,723 --> 02:38:44,723
okay. So before

4003
02:38:48,729 --> 02:38:49,730
we get too far into things, I

4004
02:38:49,730 --> 02:38:51,732
would like to discuss why we are here

4005
02:38:51,732 --> 02:38:53,732
and some other

4006
02:38:57,738 --> 02:38:59,738
important context.

4007
02:39:09,716 --> 02:39:10,717
so there's a couple of things

4008
02:39:10,717 --> 02:39:11,718
in the ordinance. I'll get into the

4009
02:39:11,718 --> 02:39:12,719
specifics shortly, but here's a high-level

4010
02:39:12,719 --> 02:39:13,720
summary. The vast

4011
02:39:13,720 --> 02:39:15,722
majority of the ordinance and what

4012
02:39:15,722 --> 02:39:16,723
we'll be discussing tonight is the

4013
02:39:16,723 --> 02:39:17,724
establishment of

4014
02:39:17,724 --> 02:39:18,725
an inclusionary housing program. We

4015
02:39:18,725 --> 02:39:19,726
are also providing some additional

4016
02:39:19,726 --> 02:39:20,727
modifications to our offstreet

4017
02:39:20,727 --> 02:39:21,728
parking standards, permitting unbundled

4018
02:39:21,728 --> 02:39:22,729
parking, establishing ground mounted

4019
02:39:22,729 --> 02:39:23,730
mechanical equipment, clarifying some

4020
02:39:23,730 --> 02:39:24,731
adu regulations --

4021
02:39:24,731 --> 02:39:27,131
state exemption adus, throughout

4022
02:39:30,737 --> 02:39:32,737
the ordinance.

4023
02:39:33,740 --> 02:39:34,741
now we know what's in the ordinance.

4024
02:39:34,741 --> 02:39:35,742
here's some important policy context

4025
02:39:35,742 --> 02:39:36,743
that the streets why we are here.

4026
02:39:36,743 --> 02:39:37,744
for scott housing

4027
02:39:37,744 --> 02:39:39,713
element provides direction for the

4028
02:39:39,713 --> 02:39:42,113
city to consider adopting

4029
02:39:44,718 --> 02:39:45,719
an inclusionary housing ordinance.

4030
02:39:45,719 --> 02:39:46,720
second is consistency with the metropolitan

4031
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:47,721
transportation

4032
02:39:47,721 --> 02:39:48,722
commission's transit oriented communities,

4033
02:39:48,722 --> 02:39:49,723
also known as the toc policy. The

4034
02:39:49,723 --> 02:39:51,725
toc policy is a voluntary program

4035
02:39:51,725 --> 02:39:53,725
that rewards the

4036
02:39:54,728 --> 02:39:56,728
sword significant

4037
02:39:59,733 --> 02:40:00,734
funding including inclusionary housing

4038
02:40:00,734 --> 02:40:01,735
requirements and some of

4039
02:40:01,735 --> 02:40:03,737
the parking management strategies

4040
02:40:03,737 --> 02:40:04,738
that we are discussing today.

4041
02:40:04,738 --> 02:40:06,738
>>

4042
02:40:06,740 --> 02:40:09,140
I'm sorry. In the

4043
02:40:09,743 --> 02:40:11,743
back --

4044
02:40:12,746 --> 02:40:13,714
I'm sorry, sir.

4045
02:40:13,714 --> 02:40:15,714
>>

4046
02:40:15,716 --> 02:40:16,717
gentlemen.

4047
02:40:16,717 --> 02:40:18,717
>>

4048
02:40:21,722 --> 02:40:22,723
it's

4049
02:40:22,723 --> 02:40:24,725
difficult to hear the presentation.

4050
02:40:24,725 --> 02:40:25,726
thank you.

4051
02:40:25,726 --> 02:40:26,727
>> and just as her mother, city council

4052
02:40:26,727 --> 02:40:27,728
has

4053
02:40:27,728 --> 02:40:28,729
previously directed staff to update our policies

4054
02:40:28,729 --> 02:40:29,730
and regulations to be consistent with

4055
02:40:29,730 --> 02:40:30,731
the toc

4056
02:40:30,731 --> 02:40:32,731
policy. Ab 1505 has

4057
02:40:36,737 --> 02:40:37,738
requirements . This is

4058
02:40:37,738 --> 02:40:39,740
consistent with goal c, economic development

4059
02:40:39,740 --> 02:40:42,140
and housing from strategic

4060
02:40:45,746 --> 02:40:47,746
policies.

4061
02:40:48,715 --> 02:40:49,716
so we are going to be talking about

4062
02:40:49,716 --> 02:40:50,717
a

4063
02:40:50,717 --> 02:40:51,718
lot of technicalities around affordable

4064
02:40:51,718 --> 02:40:52,719
housing. Before we dive too deep,

4065
02:40:52,719 --> 02:40:53,720
it is impertinent

4066
02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:54,721
to take a moment and talk about what

4067
02:40:54,721 --> 02:40:55,722
affordable housing actually means.

4068
02:40:55,722 --> 02:40:57,722
there are a

4069
02:41:00,727 --> 02:41:02,727
lot of

4070
02:41:06,733 --> 02:41:08,735
concerns. I want to make sure we are

4071
02:41:08,735 --> 02:41:09,736
all on the same page. Affordable housing

4072
02:41:09,736 --> 02:41:10,737
is just a blanket term that is also

4073
02:41:10,737 --> 02:41:12,739
sometimes called lower income housing

4074
02:41:12,739 --> 02:41:13,740
or below market rate housing. What

4075
02:41:13,740 --> 02:41:15,740
it boils down

4076
02:41:18,745 --> 02:41:20,745
to is

4077
02:41:21,715 --> 02:41:22,716
affordable housing is a requirement

4078
02:41:22,716 --> 02:41:23,717
that homes

4079
02:41:23,717 --> 02:41:24,718
to be printed or so the film is based

4080
02:41:24,718 --> 02:41:26,720
on one, their household income and

4081
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:27,721
two, their household size. Not all

4082
02:41:27,721 --> 02:41:28,722
affordable housing is the same. Based

4083
02:41:28,722 --> 02:41:29,723
on

4084
02:41:29,723 --> 02:41:30,724
these two variables of income and

4085
02:41:30,724 --> 02:41:31,725
size, there are different tiers of

4086
02:41:31,725 --> 02:41:33,725
affordable housing

4087
02:41:33,727 --> 02:41:36,730
but it is based on ami, which

4088
02:41:36,730 --> 02:41:37,731
is the median income level for house

4089
02:41:37,731 --> 02:41:39,731
hold levels based

4090
02:41:39,733 --> 02:41:40,734
on the county so half of the households

4091
02:41:40,734 --> 02:41:41,735
in

4092
02:41:41,735 --> 02:41:42,736
the county earn more. Half earned

4093
02:41:42,736 --> 02:41:44,736
less. For

4094
02:41:44,738 --> 02:41:45,739
example in contra costa county, the

4095
02:41:45,739 --> 02:41:48,739
jiggling for a family of

4096
02:41:48,742 --> 02:41:50,742
four was

4097
02:41:51,745 --> 02:41:54,145
$155,700. Now that we know

4098
02:41:54,715 --> 02:41:56,715
what the

4099
02:41:56,717 --> 02:41:57,718
ami is, we can do calculations to

4100
02:41:57,718 --> 02:41:58,719
figure out what the various income

4101
02:41:58,719 --> 02:42:00,719
and

4102
02:42:00,721 --> 02:42:02,721
affordable --affordability

4103
02:42:03,724 --> 02:42:05,726
levels are for different

4104
02:42:05,726 --> 02:42:06,727
budgets. They generally fall into the categories

4105
02:42:06,727 --> 02:42:07,728
you see in the columns. Acutely low

4106
02:42:07,728 --> 02:42:09,728
is

4107
02:42:10,731 --> 02:42:12,731
17%

4108
02:42:12,733 --> 02:42:13,734
aye --ami very low is up to 50. Close

4109
02:42:13,734 --> 02:42:15,734
up to

4110
02:42:19,740 --> 02:42:21,740
80.

4111
02:42:22,743 --> 02:42:23,744
water it is up to 120. When

4112
02:42:23,744 --> 02:42:24,745
summons is affordable housing, I can

4113
02:42:24,745 --> 02:42:25,746
mean a lot of different things depending

4114
02:42:25,746 --> 02:42:26,713
on

4115
02:42:26,713 --> 02:42:28,715
who it is intended to serve. Now,

4116
02:42:28,715 --> 02:42:29,716
one of the biggest

4117
02:42:29,716 --> 02:42:30,717
misconceptions about affordable housing

4118
02:42:30,717 --> 02:42:31,718
is that it is for only the lowest

4119
02:42:31,718 --> 02:42:32,719
wage

4120
02:42:32,719 --> 02:42:34,721
earners. While that can be true for

4121
02:42:34,721 --> 02:42:35,722
some projects --15, 30% ami,

4122
02:42:35,722 --> 02:42:37,724
it's not actually usually the case.

4123
02:42:37,724 --> 02:42:40,124
for instance, nausea contra

4124
02:42:40,727 --> 02:42:42,727
costa

4125
02:42:46,733 --> 02:42:48,733
county --

4126
02:42:49,736 --> 02:42:50,737
hundred $86,000 is

4127
02:42:50,737 --> 02:42:51,738
considered moderate income. Both of

4128
02:42:51,738 --> 02:42:52,739
these families could qualify for affordable

4129
02:42:52,739 --> 02:42:53,740
housing. And

4130
02:42:53,740 --> 02:42:54,741
that really surprises people because

4131
02:42:54,741 --> 02:42:55,742
they don't realize that affordable

4132
02:42:55,742 --> 02:42:56,743
housing

4133
02:42:56,743 --> 02:42:58,745
--they're not thinking families that

4134
02:42:58,745 --> 02:43:00,745
make six figures.

4135
02:43:04,718 --> 02:43:05,719
so, with that out of the way, let's

4136
02:43:05,719 --> 02:43:07,721
get into what the actual inclusionary housing

4137
02:43:07,721 --> 02:43:09,721
program that

4138
02:43:10,724 --> 02:43:11,725
we are proposing is. So,

4139
02:43:11,725 --> 02:43:12,726
starting off what is inclusionary

4140
02:43:12,726 --> 02:43:15,726
housing? Sometimes it is referred

4141
02:43:16,730 --> 02:43:17,731
to as

4142
02:43:17,731 --> 02:43:18,732
inclusionary zoning but it refers

4143
02:43:18,732 --> 02:43:19,733
to requirements imposed on developers

4144
02:43:19,733 --> 02:43:22,733
of residential projects to set

4145
02:43:22,736 --> 02:43:23,737
aside a

4146
02:43:23,737 --> 02:43:24,738
shared --a share of their proposed

4147
02:43:24,738 --> 02:43:25,739
units as affordable housing. Inclusionary

4148
02:43:25,739 --> 02:43:27,739
housing can be

4149
02:43:31,745 --> 02:43:33,745
limited to

4150
02:43:39,720 --> 02:43:40,721
address segregation by ensuring housing

4151
02:43:40,721 --> 02:43:41,722
is available for lower

4152
02:43:41,722 --> 02:43:42,723
wage workers, guarding against concentrations

4153
02:43:42,723 --> 02:43:43,724
of poverty and events and making it

4154
02:43:43,724 --> 02:43:44,725
possible for lower

4155
02:43:44,725 --> 02:43:45,726
income households to live in higher

4156
02:43:45,726 --> 02:43:46,727
resourced neighborhoods. Okay, so

4157
02:43:46,727 --> 02:43:49,727
now that we have covered

4158
02:43:49,730 --> 02:43:50,731
our bases let's talk

4159
02:43:50,731 --> 02:43:52,733
about the program. So the next two

4160
02:43:52,733 --> 02:43:53,734
slides are the most important for

4161
02:43:53,734 --> 02:43:55,736
understanding. Projects which generally

4162
02:43:55,736 --> 02:43:57,736
have the creation

4163
02:44:01,742 --> 02:44:03,742
of 11

4164
02:44:05,746 --> 02:44:06,713
new dwelling units will be required

4165
02:44:06,713 --> 02:44:07,714
to comply. However, there are certain

4166
02:44:07,714 --> 02:44:08,715
types of exclusions.

4167
02:44:08,715 --> 02:44:09,716
that includes projects like reconstructions,

4168
02:44:09,716 --> 02:44:10,717
modifications to existing buildings

4169
02:44:10,717 --> 02:44:11,718
and other projects that you see

4170
02:44:11,718 --> 02:44:13,720
listed here. Now, these types of qualifying

4171
02:44:13,720 --> 02:44:15,720
projects would be

4172
02:44:19,726 --> 02:44:20,727
required to dedicate 15% of their

4173
02:44:20,727 --> 02:44:21,728
total units to affordable housing. Depending

4174
02:44:21,728 --> 02:44:22,729
on if they are rental or ownership,

4175
02:44:22,729 --> 02:44:24,729
the average ami

4176
02:44:25,732 --> 02:44:28,132
must meet 80 or 120% of

4177
02:44:28,735 --> 02:44:30,735
ami average. 120

4178
02:44:34,741 --> 02:44:36,741
for ownership.

4179
02:44:42,716 --> 02:44:43,717
to kind of put these regulations into

4180
02:44:43,717 --> 02:44:44,718
a little bit of

4181
02:44:44,718 --> 02:44:45,719
context, I provided two real-world

4182
02:44:45,719 --> 02:44:46,720
examples of recently approved projects.

4183
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:49,120
the first is the

4184
02:44:49,723 --> 02:44:52,123
amare apartments project which

4185
02:44:52,726 --> 02:44:53,727
is

4186
02:44:53,727 --> 02:44:54,728
currently approved for 183 units.

4187
02:44:54,728 --> 02:44:55,729
hypothetically, if we were to apply

4188
02:44:55,729 --> 02:44:57,729
our program here,

4189
02:44:57,731 --> 02:44:58,732
15% of their units would need to be

4190
02:44:58,732 --> 02:45:00,734
affordable which would equate to

4191
02:45:00,734 --> 02:45:01,735
28 units being the restricted. Affordable.

4192
02:45:01,735 --> 02:45:03,737
from there, again, rental

4193
02:45:03,737 --> 02:45:04,738
would have to have an average of no

4194
02:45:04,738 --> 02:45:06,738
more

4195
02:45:07,741 --> 02:45:08,742
than 80% ami, so there's a different

4196
02:45:08,742 --> 02:45:09,743
way you

4197
02:45:09,743 --> 02:45:10,744
can break that down but here's just

4198
02:45:10,744 --> 02:45:13,144
an example of a

4199
02:45:13,714 --> 02:45:14,715
potential income unit mix there. And

4200
02:45:14,715 --> 02:45:15,716
then the

4201
02:45:15,716 --> 02:45:16,717
same thing for the wyoming heights

4202
02:45:16,717 --> 02:45:17,718
project which was just recently approved

4203
02:45:17,718 --> 02:45:19,718
and

4204
02:45:19,720 --> 02:45:20,721
is

4205
02:45:20,721 --> 02:45:22,723
the ownership project for 21 townhomes.

4206
02:45:22,723 --> 02:45:23,724
if we were to apply these standards,

4207
02:45:23,724 --> 02:45:25,724
seven

4208
02:45:25,726 --> 02:45:27,726
of the

4209
02:45:28,729 --> 02:45:30,729
units would

4210
02:45:34,735 --> 02:45:36,737
be required to be affordable

4211
02:45:36,737 --> 02:45:37,738
housing. And again, that one is 120% ami,

4212
02:45:37,738 --> 02:45:38,739
so the mix can be a little

4213
02:45:38,739 --> 02:45:40,741
bit different depending on the rental

4214
02:45:40,741 --> 02:45:41,742
or ownership components.

4215
02:45:41,742 --> 02:45:42,743
>> can I

4216
02:45:42,743 --> 02:45:43,744
interrupt really

4217
02:45:43,744 --> 02:45:44,745
quickly? This is not the actual breakdown

4218
02:45:44,745 --> 02:45:45,746
of

4219
02:45:45,746 --> 02:45:46,713
affordable units. These are hypothetical

4220
02:45:46,713 --> 02:45:47,714
numbers.

4221
02:45:47,714 --> 02:45:48,715
>> and just for context,

4222
02:45:48,715 --> 02:45:50,715
amare project

4223
02:45:50,717 --> 02:45:52,719
isn't entitled for nine affordable

4224
02:45:52,719 --> 02:45:53,720
units and the wyoming heights project

4225
02:45:53,720 --> 02:45:55,720
is

4226
02:45:55,722 --> 02:45:57,722
entitled

4227
02:45:58,725 --> 02:46:00,725
48. --

4228
02:46:00,727 --> 02:46:03,727
for 8. Leon two general requirements

4229
02:46:07,734 --> 02:46:08,735
of inclusionary units. Any units built on

4230
02:46:08,735 --> 02:46:10,737
site would need to be of a standard

4231
02:46:10,737 --> 02:46:13,137
comparable to the above

4232
02:46:16,743 --> 02:46:18,743
moderate units

4233
02:46:27,721 --> 02:46:28,722
or the market rate units. This includes

4234
02:46:28,722 --> 02:46:29,723
the design, the finishes, the access

4235
02:46:29,723 --> 02:46:30,724
to amenities. These units need to

4236
02:46:30,724 --> 02:46:31,725
be reasonably dispersed throughout

4237
02:46:31,725 --> 02:46:33,727
the project site kind

4238
02:46:33,727 --> 02:46:34,728
of how you would envision it in this

4239
02:46:34,728 --> 02:46:36,730
image that you see here. Really, the

4240
02:46:36,730 --> 02:46:37,731
goal is to make affordable units indistinguishable

4241
02:46:37,731 --> 02:46:38,732
from market rate units. You shouldn't

4242
02:46:38,732 --> 02:46:39,733
be able

4243
02:46:39,733 --> 02:46:40,734
to go to a project site and figure

4244
02:46:40,734 --> 02:46:42,736
out which ones are affordable and

4245
02:46:42,736 --> 02:46:43,737
which ones are market rate. So, to

4246
02:46:43,737 --> 02:46:44,738
assist in offsetting the cost of incorporating

4247
02:46:44,738 --> 02:46:47,738
affordable housing into these types

4248
02:46:49,743 --> 02:46:51,743
of projects,

4249
02:47:18,739 --> 02:47:19,740
we do make sure that these projects

4250
02:47:19,740 --> 02:47:20,741
are available for a couple

4251
02:47:20,741 --> 02:47:22,743
of different incentives. The first

4252
02:47:22,743 --> 02:47:23,744
is they would still be eligible for

4253
02:47:23,744 --> 02:47:24,745
california state density

4254
02:47:24,745 --> 02:47:25,746
bonus law which provides a pretty

4255
02:47:25,746 --> 02:47:26,713
significant density bonus to projects

4256
02:47:26,713 --> 02:47:27,714
already providing affordable housing.

4257
02:47:27,714 --> 02:47:28,715
it also allows them several concessions

4258
02:47:28,715 --> 02:47:29,716
and waivers to development standards.

4259
02:47:29,716 --> 02:47:30,717
things like heights,

4260
02:47:30,717 --> 02:47:31,718
setbacks, and light coverage, or projects

4261
02:47:31,718 --> 02:47:32,719
would be eligible for development

4262
02:47:32,719 --> 02:47:33,720
incentive and community benefits

4263
02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:34,721
program which was passed I believe

4264
02:47:34,721 --> 02:47:35,722
last year, which provides even greater

4265
02:47:35,722 --> 02:47:36,723
residential

4266
02:47:36,723 --> 02:47:37,724
density bonus then under state. The first

4267
02:47:37,724 --> 02:47:41,324
is we are proposing to explicitly

4268
02:47:43,730 --> 02:47:44,932
permit unbundled

4269
02:47:44,932 --> 02:47:46,600
it allows

4270
02:47:46,600 --> 02:47:48,402
them several

4271
02:47:48,402 --> 02:47:50,404
this would not be a

4272
02:47:50,404 --> 02:47:51,405
requirement of projects. It would

4273
02:47:51,405 --> 02:47:52,406
just

4274
02:47:52,406 --> 02:47:54,408
create the option. Another requirement

4275
02:47:54,408 --> 02:47:57,411
of the chick told us we

4276
02:47:57,411 --> 02:47:58,412
are providing

4277
02:47:58,412 --> 02:48:00,414
--administrative offices for any new

4278
02:48:00,414 --> 02:48:02,814
development. And while not

4279
02:48:03,417 --> 02:48:05,417
a requirement

4280
02:48:06,420 --> 02:48:08,420
of the

4281
02:48:09,423 --> 02:48:10,424
toc

4282
02:48:10,424 --> 02:48:11,425
policy we are proposing a couple of

4283
02:48:11,425 --> 02:48:12,426
additional cleanup to create some

4284
02:48:12,426 --> 02:48:13,427
parking standards and ratios

4285
02:48:13,427 --> 02:48:16,427
for retail complexes and shopping

4286
02:48:16,430 --> 02:48:17,431
centers. The code currently lacks

4287
02:48:17,431 --> 02:48:18,398
regulations relating to small ground

4288
02:48:18,398 --> 02:48:20,398
mounted income

4289
02:48:21,401 --> 02:48:23,401
such as

4290
02:48:24,404 --> 02:48:25,405
hvac and [ inaudible ] which

4291
02:48:25,405 --> 02:48:27,407
has been a gray area and as I could.

4292
02:48:27,407 --> 02:48:29,409
we are proposing to allow

4293
02:48:29,409 --> 02:48:30,410
them to project into the side yard

4294
02:48:30,410 --> 02:48:32,410
setbacks.

4295
02:48:33,413 --> 02:48:36,416
no closer than three pairs --

4296
02:48:36,416 --> 02:48:37,417
feet

4297
02:48:37,417 --> 02:48:39,419
--closer to the primary structure

4298
02:48:39,419 --> 02:48:40,420
as opposed to the

4299
02:48:40,420 --> 02:48:42,422
property line. So just add some clarification

4300
02:48:42,422 --> 02:48:44,422
to

4301
02:48:48,428 --> 02:48:50,428
the zoning.

4302
02:48:51,398 --> 02:48:52,399
we also have a couple of updates

4303
02:48:52,399 --> 02:48:54,401
to our adu code. The first one is related

4304
02:48:54,401 --> 02:48:57,404
to privacy standards. So the zoning

4305
02:48:57,404 --> 02:48:58,405
ordinance generally only permits adus

4306
02:48:58,405 --> 02:48:59,406
to

4307
02:48:59,406 --> 02:49:00,407
be two stories if they are additions

4308
02:49:00,407 --> 02:49:01,408
to existing structures or if there's

4309
02:49:01,408 --> 02:49:03,408
some

4310
02:49:03,410 --> 02:49:04,411
kind of approval

4311
02:49:04,411 --> 02:49:06,413
of an exception. So to alleviate the

4312
02:49:06,413 --> 02:49:07,414
potential privacy concerns of a two-story

4313
02:49:07,414 --> 02:49:09,416
adu we incorporated devisee standards

4314
02:49:09,416 --> 02:49:10,417
such as frosted

4315
02:49:10,417 --> 02:49:14,170
or opaque windows or windows having

4316
02:49:18,425 --> 02:49:20,425
to be

4317
02:49:25,399 --> 02:49:27,401
a certain height above the floor level. The

4318
02:49:27,401 --> 02:49:28,402
intent was always for these standards

4319
02:49:28,402 --> 02:49:29,403
to apply to windows only on second

4320
02:49:29,403 --> 02:49:30,404
stories, however, that's not unfortunately

4321
02:49:30,404 --> 02:49:31,405
the way it is

4322
02:49:31,405 --> 02:49:33,407
written in the codes of this is more

4323
02:49:33,407 --> 02:49:34,408
of a cleanup to make sure

4324
02:49:34,408 --> 02:49:36,410
that these privacy standards are enforced

4325
02:49:36,410 --> 02:49:38,810
on the second story

4326
02:49:41,415 --> 02:49:42,416
windows only. And second adu has to

4327
02:49:42,416 --> 02:49:43,417
do

4328
02:49:43,417 --> 02:49:45,419
--amendment has to do with the state

4329
02:49:45,419 --> 02:49:46,420
exemption adus. I'll kind of get into

4330
02:49:46,420 --> 02:49:47,421
what

4331
02:49:47,421 --> 02:49:48,422
those are in just a second but generally

4332
02:49:48,422 --> 02:49:49,423
we are just doing a little

4333
02:49:49,423 --> 02:49:51,425
bit of cleanup related to those. So

4334
02:49:51,425 --> 02:49:53,825
after publication of the

4335
02:49:57,431 --> 02:49:58,398
planning commission

4336
02:49:58,398 --> 02:49:59,399
ordinance we received one public comment from

4337
02:49:59,399 --> 02:50:00,400
the california housing defense --

4338
02:50:00,400 --> 02:50:02,402
I forget the acronym.

4339
02:50:02,402 --> 02:50:03,403
defense fund. Thank you. So calhdf.

4340
02:50:03,403 --> 02:50:05,403
they had

4341
02:50:06,406 --> 02:50:07,407
two comments. One is that we

4342
02:50:07,407 --> 02:50:09,409
are incorrectly referencing the state

4343
02:50:09,409 --> 02:50:10,410
good. We corrected

4344
02:50:10,410 --> 02:50:12,412
that any state ordinance. It just

4345
02:50:12,412 --> 02:50:13,413
hasn't been reflected in the online

4346
02:50:13,413 --> 02:50:14,414
code

4347
02:50:14,414 --> 02:50:15,415
yet. [ inaudible ] the second had

4348
02:50:15,415 --> 02:50:18,415
to do with how we

4349
02:50:20,420 --> 02:50:21,421
treat state exemption adus. The state

4350
02:50:21,421 --> 02:50:22,422
exemption adus are an envelope

4351
02:50:22,422 --> 02:50:24,424
for adus. High requirements, square-foot

4352
02:50:24,424 --> 02:50:26,424
requirements

4353
02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:30,430
pretty you meet those requirements,

4354
02:50:30,430 --> 02:50:31,398
the city basically has no

4355
02:50:31,398 --> 02:50:33,400
discretion and you're allowed to go

4356
02:50:33,400 --> 02:50:34,401
straight for building

4357
02:50:34,401 --> 02:50:36,403
permit. Calhdf had a common related

4358
02:50:36,403 --> 02:50:40,603
to how he described those in our

4359
02:50:41,408 --> 02:50:42,409
code. And we were applying some of

4360
02:50:42,409 --> 02:50:45,412
our discretionary standards to them that

4361
02:50:45,412 --> 02:50:48,412
for clarity we were never

4362
02:50:48,415 --> 02:50:50,415
doing that.

4363
02:50:50,417 --> 02:50:51,418
we already had some carveout at the

4364
02:50:51,418 --> 02:50:52,419
beginning but we went

4365
02:50:52,419 --> 02:50:54,421
ahead and made some additional clarifications

4366
02:50:54,421 --> 02:50:55,422
to ensure that that is extremely clear

4367
02:50:55,422 --> 02:50:57,422
in

4368
02:51:00,427 --> 02:51:02,427
our code.

4369
02:51:06,400 --> 02:51:07,401
and finally, we presented the

4370
02:51:07,401 --> 02:51:08,402
ordinance to the planning commission

4371
02:51:08,402 --> 02:51:09,403
on october 28th. There was a minority

4372
02:51:09,403 --> 02:51:10,404
concern about

4373
02:51:10,404 --> 02:51:11,405
the unbundled parking amendment in

4374
02:51:11,405 --> 02:51:12,406
the ordinance. There was a citation

4375
02:51:12,406 --> 02:51:13,407
of concerns that it

4376
02:51:13,407 --> 02:51:15,409
could potentially result in price

4377
02:51:15,409 --> 02:51:16,410
gouging separating the pricing --

4378
02:51:16,410 --> 02:51:17,411
leases

4379
02:51:17,411 --> 02:51:18,412
--and there was a motion to remove

4380
02:51:18,412 --> 02:51:21,415
it from the ordinance but the motion

4381
02:51:21,415 --> 02:51:23,415
failed and

4382
02:51:24,418 --> 02:51:26,818
--adopted --with some other

4383
02:51:30,424 --> 02:51:32,424
minor amendments.

4384
02:51:53,413 --> 02:51:54,414
okay. So with that, tonight's recommendation

4385
02:51:54,414 --> 02:51:55,415
is a little long so please bear

4386
02:51:55,415 --> 02:51:56,416
with me. Staff's recommendation is

4387
02:51:56,416 --> 02:51:57,417
to conduct a public hearing, waive

4388
02:51:57,417 --> 02:51:58,418
the reading, and introduce

4389
02:51:58,418 --> 02:51:59,419
an ordinance approving zoning text

4390
02:51:59,419 --> 02:52:00,420
mems to the martinez municipal code

4391
02:52:00,420 --> 02:52:01,421
by 1, adding chapter

4392
02:52:01,421 --> 02:52:02,422
22.82, inclusionary housing, 2, amending

4393
02:52:02,422 --> 02:52:03,423
chapters 22.04, definitions, and chapters

4394
02:52:03,423 --> 02:52:04,424
22.12, residential districts to

4395
02:52:04,424 --> 02:52:06,824
reference a new chapter 22.82, 3,

4396
02:52:09,429 --> 02:52:10,430
amending

4397
02:52:10,430 --> 02:52:11,398
chapter 22.3 for general requirements

4398
02:52:11,398 --> 02:52:12,399
and exceptions to add regulations

4399
02:52:12,399 --> 02:52:13,400
related to ground mounted mechanical

4400
02:52:13,400 --> 02:52:14,401
equipment, 4,

4401
02:52:14,401 --> 02:52:15,402
amending chapter 22.36, offstreet

4402
02:52:15,402 --> 02:52:16,403
parking and loading facilities to

4403
02:52:16,403 --> 02:52:18,403
update

4404
02:52:18,405 --> 02:52:19,406
automobile and bicycle parking ratios

4405
02:52:19,406 --> 02:52:20,407
for residential, commercial,

4406
02:52:20,407 --> 02:52:21,408
and office projects and permit unbundled

4407
02:52:21,408 --> 02:52:25,800
parking pursuant to the housing element

4408
02:52:27,414 --> 02:52:29,414
and ntc,

4409
02:52:36,423 --> 02:52:37,424
metropolitan transpiration commissions

4410
02:52:37,424 --> 02:52:38,425
parking

4411
02:52:38,425 --> 02:52:39,426
pursuant to the housing element and

4412
02:52:39,426 --> 02:52:40,427
metropolitan transportation commission's

4413
02:52:40,427 --> 02:52:41,428
transit oriented communities, policy,

4414
02:52:41,428 --> 02:52:42,429
4 amending chapter

4415
02:52:42,429 --> 02:52:43,430
22.43 accessory to units and junior

4416
02:52:43,430 --> 02:52:44,398
accessory dwelling in a stick or fight

4417
02:52:44,398 --> 02:52:45,399
privacy standards

4418
02:52:45,399 --> 02:52:46,400
for two-story and second-story detached

4419
02:52:46,400 --> 02:52:48,400
accessory

4420
02:52:51,405 --> 02:52:53,405
dwelling units.

4421
02:52:57,411 --> 02:52:59,411
with that, I

4422
02:52:59,413 --> 02:53:00,414
am happy to answer any questions from

4423
02:53:00,414 --> 02:53:01,415
the council.

4424
02:53:01,415 --> 02:53:02,416
>> thank you very much

4425
02:53:02,416 --> 02:53:03,417
for

4426
02:53:03,417 --> 02:53:04,418
all of that. Everyone, please make

4427
02:53:04,418 --> 02:53:05,419
a note that he read the whole thing

4428
02:53:05,419 --> 02:53:06,420
so

4429
02:53:06,420 --> 02:53:07,421
we need to make a motion, we are good.

4430
02:53:07,421 --> 02:53:08,422
>> well, just one, the numbering

4431
02:53:08,422 --> 02:53:09,423
seems like it was off. It was 1234,

4432
02:53:09,423 --> 02:53:11,425
and then five. Shouldn't it be

4433
02:53:11,425 --> 02:53:12,426
six?

4434
02:53:12,426 --> 02:53:13,427
>> yes. It should be. >> yeah.

4435
02:53:13,427 --> 02:53:14,428
so.

4436
02:53:14,428 --> 02:53:15,429
>> thank you for catching that.

4437
02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:16,430
>> my only comment was I really appreciate

4438
02:53:16,430 --> 02:53:17,431
so

4439
02:53:17,431 --> 02:53:18,398
many of the clarifications you made

4440
02:53:18,398 --> 02:53:20,398
and some of

4441
02:53:21,401 --> 02:53:22,402
the graphics. Oftentimes, people who

4442
02:53:22,402 --> 02:53:23,403
aren't in

4443
02:53:23,403 --> 02:53:24,404
planning have a hard time understanding

4444
02:53:24,404 --> 02:53:27,407
some of the words that are used so

4445
02:53:27,407 --> 02:53:29,407
I appreciate the

4446
02:53:30,410 --> 02:53:33,410
visual. Does have questions for

4447
02:53:34,414 --> 02:53:35,415
him about

4448
02:53:35,415 --> 02:53:36,416
any of the items presented tonight?

4449
02:53:36,416 --> 02:53:37,417
>> no. I appreciate the clarity. It

4450
02:53:37,417 --> 02:53:39,417
made a

4451
02:53:40,420 --> 02:53:42,420
lot of sense.

4452
02:53:42,422 --> 02:53:43,423
I too share concerns around just the

4453
02:53:43,423 --> 02:53:45,423
term affordable

4454
02:53:46,426 --> 02:53:50,260
housing because it just has a

4455
02:53:52,399 --> 02:53:54,399
different connotation

4456
02:53:57,404 --> 02:53:58,405
if you say workforce housing then

4457
02:53:58,405 --> 02:53:59,406
people perk up than affordable

4458
02:53:59,406 --> 02:54:00,407
housing so I appreciate you just laying

4459
02:54:00,407 --> 02:54:01,408
out the chart and really, we were

4460
02:54:01,408 --> 02:54:02,409
kind

4461
02:54:02,409 --> 02:54:04,411
of going back and forth. It is just

4462
02:54:04,411 --> 02:54:06,411
unfathomable that one

4463
02:54:06,413 --> 02:54:10,130
is considered low income off of $120,000

4464
02:54:10,417 --> 02:54:13,417
a year. That's a whole

4465
02:54:13,420 --> 02:54:14,421
other story but thank you for

4466
02:54:14,421 --> 02:54:15,422
your presentation.

4467
02:54:15,422 --> 02:54:16,423
>> welcome to the

4468
02:54:16,423 --> 02:54:18,423
bay

4469
02:54:22,429 --> 02:54:23,430
area.

4470
02:54:23,430 --> 02:54:25,399
>> thank you very much and for the

4471
02:54:25,399 --> 02:54:27,399
presentation.

4472
02:54:28,402 --> 02:54:29,403
appreciate it.

4473
02:54:29,403 --> 02:54:31,405
looking at the staff report, a couple

4474
02:54:31,405 --> 02:54:34,405
of questions that had come

4475
02:54:34,408 --> 02:54:37,408
to mind. The section on

4476
02:54:37,411 --> 02:54:39,413
page five, alternative means

4477
02:54:39,413 --> 02:54:43,130
of compliance. So you referenced ab

4478
02:54:44,418 --> 02:54:46,420
1505 . There are these alternatives

4479
02:54:46,420 --> 02:54:48,420
that are laid

4480
02:54:52,426 --> 02:54:55,429
out. So, this --if this is

4481
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:56,430
adopted

4482
02:54:56,430 --> 02:54:57,431
tonight, and these are the options

4483
02:54:57,431 --> 02:54:58,398
that would be available to affordable housing

4484
02:54:58,398 --> 02:55:00,398
developers

4485
02:55:04,404 --> 02:55:06,404
to meet

4486
02:55:08,408 --> 02:55:09,409
their requirements. Correct? They

4487
02:55:09,409 --> 02:55:10,410
could take advantage of one of these,

4488
02:55:10,410 --> 02:55:11,411
all of

4489
02:55:11,411 --> 02:55:13,413
these? Is there a limit? How does

4490
02:55:13,413 --> 02:55:14,414
that work?

4491
02:55:14,414 --> 02:55:15,415
>>

4492
02:55:15,415 --> 02:55:16,416
for clarification, this would be for

4493
02:55:16,416 --> 02:55:17,417
any developer. Not just affordable

4494
02:55:17,417 --> 02:55:18,418
housing developers.

4495
02:55:18,418 --> 02:55:20,418
>>

4496
02:55:21,421 --> 02:55:22,422
thank you.

4497
02:55:22,422 --> 02:55:23,423
>> yeah. They would be

4498
02:55:23,423 --> 02:55:24,424
--the

4499
02:55:24,424 --> 02:55:25,425
language in the code is carved out

4500
02:55:25,425 --> 02:55:28,428
that they can take advantage of one,

4501
02:55:28,428 --> 02:55:30,428
multiple combination

4502
02:55:31,398 --> 02:55:33,400
of these options and alternatives.

4503
02:55:33,400 --> 02:55:37,404
>> okay. So, in the cities that have

4504
02:55:37,404 --> 02:55:39,804
moved and adopted inclusionary

4505
02:55:43,410 --> 02:55:45,410
housing policy,

4506
02:55:53,420 --> 02:55:55,422
what has been the general trend? Have they

4507
02:55:55,422 --> 02:55:56,423
actually seen -- have they

4508
02:55:56,423 --> 02:55:57,424
been able to move the needle on these

4509
02:55:57,424 --> 02:55:58,425
types of projects in their respective

4510
02:55:58,425 --> 02:55:59,426
communities?

4511
02:55:59,426 --> 02:56:00,427
>> yeah,

4512
02:56:00,427 --> 02:56:01,428
so, in my research, the turner center

4513
02:56:01,428 --> 02:56:02,429
out of uc berkeley, which is one of

4514
02:56:02,429 --> 02:56:03,430
the foremost leaders in housing policy

4515
02:56:03,430 --> 02:56:04,431
research, they did a pretty thorough

4516
02:56:04,431 --> 02:56:06,431
study

4517
02:56:09,403 --> 02:56:10,404
and analyzed the effects of inclusionary

4518
02:56:10,404 --> 02:56:12,406
housing ordinance and their general consensus

4519
02:56:12,406 --> 02:56:17,206
is that it tends to slightly reduce overall

4520
02:56:17,411 --> 02:56:19,413
housing production but increase overall

4521
02:56:19,413 --> 02:56:20,414
housing production.

4522
02:56:20,414 --> 02:56:22,414
>>

4523
02:56:22,416 --> 02:56:23,417
interesting. Okay.

4524
02:56:23,417 --> 02:56:24,418
>>

4525
02:56:24,418 --> 02:56:25,419
and then the last question I had was

4526
02:56:25,419 --> 02:56:27,419
with

4527
02:56:28,422 --> 02:56:29,423
respect to

4528
02:56:29,423 --> 02:56:31,425
the parking that you referenced as

4529
02:56:31,425 --> 02:56:33,425
part of

4530
02:56:34,428 --> 02:56:36,428
your presentation. I

4531
02:56:37,431 --> 02:56:38,398
could see unbundled parking making

4532
02:56:38,398 --> 02:56:40,398
sense,

4533
02:56:40,400 --> 02:56:43,403
particularly if you are within a certain

4534
02:56:43,403 --> 02:56:45,403
diameter

4535
02:56:46,406 --> 02:56:48,406
radius of [ inaudible ]

4536
02:56:49,409 --> 02:56:51,809
forgive me. I get

4537
02:56:52,412 --> 02:56:53,413
my terminology --

4538
02:56:53,413 --> 02:56:55,415
>> major transit stops. >> if you

4539
02:56:55,415 --> 02:56:57,815
say okay, we built

4540
02:57:01,421 --> 02:57:02,422
something not too

4541
02:57:02,422 --> 02:57:04,424
far from the amtrak station. Somebody says,

4542
02:57:04,424 --> 02:57:07,427
I don't need a car. I have

4543
02:57:07,427 --> 02:57:08,428
the train, or I can walk to

4544
02:57:08,428 --> 02:57:10,430
the bus. Fair. Right? We build something

4545
02:57:10,430 --> 02:57:13,400
closer to virginia hills, it becomes

4546
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:14,401
--it

4547
02:57:14,401 --> 02:57:16,403
becomes a little bit of a different

4548
02:57:16,403 --> 02:57:18,403
ball

4549
02:57:21,408 --> 02:57:22,409
game. Right? But if I understand you

4550
02:57:22,409 --> 02:57:25,412
correctly, it's not a mandate. It's

4551
02:57:25,412 --> 02:57:28,415
an option. So, that would be

4552
02:57:28,415 --> 02:57:30,815
up to the developer

4553
02:57:31,418 --> 02:57:33,418
to say,

4554
02:57:34,421 --> 02:57:36,421
I think

4555
02:57:36,423 --> 02:57:37,424
I'm going to get more people here.

4556
02:57:37,424 --> 02:57:38,425
parking is going to have to

4557
02:57:38,425 --> 02:57:40,427
be a necessity based on the layout

4558
02:57:40,427 --> 02:57:41,428
of the proposal. Right? So, I just

4559
02:57:41,428 --> 02:57:42,429
wanted

4560
02:57:42,429 --> 02:57:43,430
to kind of feel that out and make

4561
02:57:43,430 --> 02:57:44,431
sure I was understanding that correct

4562
02:57:44,431 --> 02:57:46,431
because

4563
02:57:48,402 --> 02:57:49,403
from a developer standpoint, I could

4564
02:57:49,403 --> 02:57:51,405
see it being advantageous

4565
02:57:51,405 --> 02:57:52,406
on one hand but then on the other

4566
02:57:52,406 --> 02:57:54,806
hand, it may not

4567
02:57:58,412 --> 02:58:00,412
make sense,

4568
02:58:01,415 --> 02:58:02,416
but we are not, we are just

4569
02:58:02,416 --> 02:58:04,418
giving them the option to do that.

4570
02:58:04,418 --> 02:58:06,420
we are not requiring them to do that.

4571
02:58:06,420 --> 02:58:07,421
>> right. >> and I just want to clarify,

4572
02:58:07,421 --> 02:58:08,422
generally speaking, it's been seen

4573
02:58:08,422 --> 02:58:09,423
that

4574
02:58:09,423 --> 02:58:10,424
unbundling parking reduces the cost

4575
02:58:10,424 --> 02:58:11,425
of housing because if you are paying

4576
02:58:11,425 --> 02:58:13,425
for the price

4577
02:58:16,430 --> 02:58:18,430
of parking

4578
02:58:25,405 --> 02:58:27,405
but

4579
02:58:27,407 --> 02:58:28,408
you don't use it, you are basically

4580
02:58:28,408 --> 02:58:29,409
subsidizing all of your neighbors,

4581
02:58:29,409 --> 02:58:30,410
or they are

4582
02:58:30,410 --> 02:58:31,411
subsidizing you, and that's already

4583
02:58:31,411 --> 02:58:32,412
included in the cost of your housing

4584
02:58:32,412 --> 02:58:33,413
as opposed to

4585
02:58:33,413 --> 02:58:34,414
if you detach the two, you technically

4586
02:58:34,414 --> 02:58:35,415
could lower the cost of overall housing.

4587
02:58:35,415 --> 02:58:36,416
>>

4588
02:58:36,416 --> 02:58:37,417
okay. And the last question I had

4589
02:58:37,417 --> 02:58:40,420
here was --I appreciated the hypothetical

4590
02:58:40,420 --> 02:58:42,420
you put in

4591
02:58:43,423 --> 02:58:45,423
there with

4592
02:58:45,425 --> 02:58:46,426
respect to amare and wyoming heights. I

4593
02:58:46,426 --> 02:58:48,428
guess the question that came to

4594
02:58:48,428 --> 02:58:49,429
mind is if such a policy was in place

4595
02:58:49,429 --> 02:58:51,398
before the projects were

4596
02:58:51,398 --> 02:58:52,399
[ inaudible -low volume ] I don't

4597
02:58:52,399 --> 02:58:54,399
know what

4598
02:58:58,405 --> 02:59:00,405
the right

4599
02:59:00,407 --> 02:59:01,408
word is, permitted.

4600
02:59:01,408 --> 02:59:02,409
>> entitled. >>

4601
02:59:02,409 --> 02:59:03,410
entitled. Excuse me. Do you think

4602
02:59:03,410 --> 02:59:04,411
the developers

4603
02:59:04,411 --> 02:59:05,412
would've moved forward in the way

4604
02:59:05,412 --> 02:59:06,413
that they did?

4605
02:59:06,413 --> 02:59:07,414
>> you know, I'm not

4606
02:59:07,414 --> 02:59:08,415
really sure. But like I --that's why

4607
02:59:08,415 --> 02:59:10,415
I

4608
02:59:10,417 --> 02:59:11,418
kind of mentioned before, that generally

4609
02:59:11,418 --> 02:59:13,418
speaking,

4610
02:59:13,420 --> 02:59:15,420
cities with inclusionary

4611
02:59:16,423 --> 02:59:18,823
housing have seen slightly

4612
02:59:19,426 --> 02:59:21,426
decreased overall

4613
02:59:24,431 --> 02:59:25,399
housing production, but in turn, have

4614
02:59:25,399 --> 02:59:27,401
seen higher affordable so I

4615
02:59:27,401 --> 02:59:28,402
don't want to speak for any of those

4616
02:59:28,402 --> 02:59:30,402
other developers, but,

4617
02:59:31,405 --> 02:59:33,407
you know, affordable housing is

4618
02:59:33,407 --> 02:59:34,408
not cheap. It's very expensive, which

4619
02:59:34,408 --> 02:59:37,411
is why it's really important that

4620
02:59:37,411 --> 02:59:38,412
we included the certain incentives

4621
02:59:38,412 --> 02:59:39,413
like our community

4622
02:59:39,413 --> 02:59:42,413
benefits program, like allowing them

4623
02:59:47,421 --> 02:59:49,421
to utilize

4624
02:59:54,428 --> 02:59:55,429
state density bonus. Those things are

4625
02:59:55,429 --> 02:59:57,431
-- result in significant cost savings

4626
02:59:57,431 --> 02:59:58,398
and help offset the price of affordable housing.

4627
02:59:58,398 --> 02:59:59,399
>>

4628
02:59:59,399 --> 03:00:00,400
I appreciate you bringing that up

4629
03:00:00,400 --> 03:00:01,401
because sometimes, we

4630
03:00:01,401 --> 03:00:02,402
have to remind folks, we are not in

4631
03:00:02,402 --> 03:00:04,402
the business

4632
03:00:05,405 --> 03:00:07,407
of building housing. We don't build

4633
03:00:07,407 --> 03:00:08,408
houses, but we do help create the

4634
03:00:08,408 --> 03:00:09,409
conditions hopefully that

4635
03:00:09,409 --> 03:00:10,410
fosters housing, so I just want to

4636
03:00:10,410 --> 03:00:11,411
make sure as we are going through

4637
03:00:11,411 --> 03:00:12,412
this

4638
03:00:12,412 --> 03:00:13,413
policy and related items, that we

4639
03:00:13,413 --> 03:00:14,414
are hopefully making it easier and

4640
03:00:14,414 --> 03:00:16,414
more attractive

4641
03:00:17,417 --> 03:00:20,420
for folks to be able to help us

4642
03:00:20,420 --> 03:00:21,421
move this needle on bringing

4643
03:00:21,421 --> 03:00:23,423
more affordable workforce housing

4644
03:00:23,423 --> 03:00:25,823
to our community, which

4645
03:00:26,426 --> 03:00:28,426
it

4646
03:00:28,428 --> 03:00:29,429
sounds like based on what I'm hearing

4647
03:00:29,429 --> 03:00:30,430
tonight, it will.

4648
03:00:30,430 --> 03:00:31,431
>>

4649
03:00:31,431 --> 03:00:32,399
I'm going to give additional context

4650
03:00:32,399 --> 03:00:33,400
and additional

4651
03:00:33,400 --> 03:00:35,402
information with what brandon said.

4652
03:00:35,402 --> 03:00:37,402
as

4653
03:00:39,406 --> 03:00:41,408
he said earlier in his presentation

4654
03:00:41,408 --> 03:00:44,411
using wyoming heights as an example,

4655
03:00:44,411 --> 03:00:46,411
the affordability requirement

4656
03:00:47,414 --> 03:00:49,414
under the

4657
03:00:49,416 --> 03:00:50,417
inclusionary ordinance is 15%, but

4658
03:00:50,417 --> 03:00:51,418
with each

4659
03:00:51,418 --> 03:00:52,419
of the overlays, is adopted, it's

4660
03:00:52,419 --> 03:00:53,420
actually 20%, so this is not actually

4661
03:00:53,420 --> 03:00:54,421
impeding

4662
03:00:54,421 --> 03:00:56,423
them anymore than the incentives that

4663
03:00:56,423 --> 03:00:58,423
they actually

4664
03:00:59,426 --> 03:01:00,427
already have, so where we

4665
03:01:00,427 --> 03:01:02,429
had envisioned from her housing element

4666
03:01:02,429 --> 03:01:05,399
that we are going to see housing growth

4667
03:01:05,399 --> 03:01:07,799
-- these regulations won't

4668
03:01:08,402 --> 03:01:11,402
impact them. Amare is a

4669
03:01:14,408 --> 03:01:16,408
different

4670
03:01:17,411 --> 03:01:18,412
story. It's

4671
03:01:18,412 --> 03:01:19,413
an abnormality. It's not a typical

4672
03:01:19,413 --> 03:01:20,414
project we are going to have. I don't

4673
03:01:20,414 --> 03:01:21,415
foresee a

4674
03:01:21,415 --> 03:01:22,416
project like that in the foreseeable

4675
03:01:22,416 --> 03:01:23,417
future. Housing element does not envision

4676
03:01:23,417 --> 03:01:25,417
a project

4677
03:01:26,420 --> 03:01:29,420
of that skill for the

4678
03:01:29,423 --> 03:01:31,423
foreseeable future.

4679
03:01:31,425 --> 03:01:32,426
I wouldn't recommend making a decision

4680
03:01:32,426 --> 03:01:33,427
based on that and we

4681
03:01:33,427 --> 03:01:35,429
have included a carveouts of that because that

4682
03:01:35,429 --> 03:01:36,430
project is already entitled, these

4683
03:01:36,430 --> 03:01:37,431
regulations

4684
03:01:37,431 --> 03:01:38,398
won't impact that project.

4685
03:01:38,398 --> 03:01:39,399
>> I do

4686
03:01:39,399 --> 03:01:40,400
also want to add one more thing. [

4687
03:01:40,400 --> 03:01:41,401
inaudible ] I have an extra slide

4688
03:01:41,401 --> 03:01:43,401
for

4689
03:01:46,406 --> 03:01:47,407
it. In contra costa county, we are

4690
03:01:47,407 --> 03:01:49,407
only one

4691
03:01:49,409 --> 03:01:50,410
of four or five --I don't recall --

4692
03:01:50,410 --> 03:01:53,410
cities that do not have

4693
03:01:54,414 --> 03:01:55,415
an inclusionary housing ordinance

4694
03:01:55,415 --> 03:01:56,416
and of those four or five cities, only

4695
03:01:56,416 --> 03:01:57,417
two that

4696
03:01:57,417 --> 03:01:59,419
we are aware of are not actually planning

4697
03:01:59,419 --> 03:02:02,422
on doing one, so, almost every single

4698
03:02:02,422 --> 03:02:04,424
city in contra costa county will have

4699
03:02:04,424 --> 03:02:05,425
an inclusionary ordinance.

4700
03:02:05,425 --> 03:02:06,426
>> so,

4701
03:02:06,426 --> 03:02:08,426
in the text

4702
03:02:11,431 --> 03:02:14,401
of the staff report, it says it

4703
03:02:14,401 --> 03:02:16,401
is less

4704
03:02:17,404 --> 03:02:19,404
than 15%.

4705
03:02:20,407 --> 03:02:21,408
would be allowed but

4706
03:02:21,408 --> 03:02:23,410
it requires a feasibility study. Can

4707
03:02:23,410 --> 03:02:24,411
you just restate that or speak to

4708
03:02:24,411 --> 03:02:25,412
it one

4709
03:02:25,412 --> 03:02:26,413
more time?

4710
03:02:26,413 --> 03:02:27,414
>> yeah. So, one of the

4711
03:02:27,414 --> 03:02:30,414
caveats for adopting this is

4712
03:02:32,419 --> 03:02:33,420
that the toc policy has

4713
03:02:33,420 --> 03:02:35,422
a minimum requirement for affordability

4714
03:02:35,422 --> 03:02:37,422
which is

4715
03:02:38,425 --> 03:02:39,426
15%. They do allow

4716
03:02:39,426 --> 03:02:40,427
us to reduce it or developers to reduce

4717
03:02:40,427 --> 03:02:44,270
it if they can provide substantial

4718
03:02:46,400 --> 03:02:47,401
proof that that would result in infeasibility

4719
03:02:47,401 --> 03:02:49,401
of

4720
03:02:50,404 --> 03:02:51,405
their project. So.

4721
03:02:51,405 --> 03:02:53,405
>> all right. Then

4722
03:02:53,407 --> 03:02:55,407
the

4723
03:02:55,409 --> 03:02:56,410
other question --

4724
03:02:56,410 --> 03:02:57,411
>> from our perspective,

4725
03:02:57,411 --> 03:02:59,411
I was

4726
03:02:59,413 --> 03:03:00,414
going through, what our options were,

4727
03:03:00,414 --> 03:03:01,415
and this

4728
03:03:01,415 --> 03:03:02,416
happened a couple of times with some

4729
03:03:02,416 --> 03:03:04,416
of

4730
03:03:08,422 --> 03:03:10,422
the items

4731
03:03:10,424 --> 03:03:11,425
you brought to us where we start with 30%

4732
03:03:11,425 --> 03:03:13,427
but we end up

4733
03:03:13,427 --> 03:03:14,428
at 50 or whatever but in this particular

4734
03:03:14,428 --> 03:03:17,428
case, 15 is the lowest we

4735
03:03:17,431 --> 03:03:21,310
can go. We don't have any

4736
03:03:22,402 --> 03:03:23,403
flexibility there'd , tonight, at

4737
03:03:23,403 --> 03:03:24,404
least.

4738
03:03:24,404 --> 03:03:25,405
>> so we can

4739
03:03:25,405 --> 03:03:26,406
start at 15%, and if the city conducts

4740
03:03:26,406 --> 03:03:29,409
a feasibility study, we can potentially

4741
03:03:29,409 --> 03:03:32,412
lower it. That would have to be

4742
03:03:32,412 --> 03:03:33,413
reviewed by mtc following but in terms of

4743
03:03:33,413 --> 03:03:34,414
timelines

4744
03:03:34,414 --> 03:03:35,415
for getting the discretionary funding

4745
03:03:35,415 --> 03:03:37,415
ball rolling

4746
03:03:41,421 --> 03:03:43,421
from

4747
03:03:58,405 --> 03:03:59,406
mtc, it's important that we adopt

4748
03:03:59,406 --> 03:04:01,408
an ordinance today and then if

4749
03:04:01,408 --> 03:04:02,409
we need to amend it after we do a

4750
03:04:02,409 --> 03:04:03,410
study, we can do so.

4751
03:04:03,410 --> 03:04:04,411
>>

4752
03:04:04,411 --> 03:04:05,412
on the slide before we had all the

4753
03:04:05,412 --> 03:04:06,413
other cities, there were a couple

4754
03:04:06,413 --> 03:04:07,414
that

4755
03:04:07,414 --> 03:04:08,415
said 5% or something. They would've

4756
03:04:08,415 --> 03:04:09,416
done a feasibility study?

4757
03:04:09,416 --> 03:04:10,417
>> some

4758
03:04:10,417 --> 03:04:11,418
of them

4759
03:04:11,418 --> 03:04:12,419
may have. We weren't able to get into

4760
03:04:12,419 --> 03:04:13,420
that level of research but we are

4761
03:04:13,420 --> 03:04:14,421
also aware that a lot of the cities, knowing

4762
03:04:14,421 --> 03:04:16,423
that they are also going

4763
03:04:16,423 --> 03:04:17,424
to comply with toc policy are probably going

4764
03:04:17,424 --> 03:04:19,426
to have to update their percentages

4765
03:04:19,426 --> 03:04:20,427
as well.

4766
03:04:20,427 --> 03:04:21,428
>> okay. The other thing

4767
03:04:21,428 --> 03:04:22,429
that's in the staff report --

4768
03:04:22,429 --> 03:04:23,430
the weight it was worded in my notes

4769
03:04:23,430 --> 03:04:25,399
are bad but something like it needs

4770
03:04:25,399 --> 03:04:26,400
to average out to 80% ami for those

4771
03:04:26,400 --> 03:04:28,402
15%. Why did we write it

4772
03:04:28,402 --> 03:04:29,403
that way? Is there another state law

4773
03:04:29,403 --> 03:04:30,404
that requires it?

4774
03:04:30,404 --> 03:04:31,405
>> it is toc policy

4775
03:04:31,405 --> 03:04:32,406
requirement.

4776
03:04:32,406 --> 03:04:33,407
>> toc policy --because

4777
03:04:33,407 --> 03:04:35,407
from

4778
03:04:38,412 --> 03:04:40,412
my perspective,

4779
03:04:41,415 --> 03:04:43,417
I think that I would like to remove

4780
03:04:43,417 --> 03:04:44,418
the requirement for what percentage of

4781
03:04:44,418 --> 03:04:45,419
ami and I would love to

4782
03:04:45,419 --> 03:04:47,421
leave that up to the developer because

4783
03:04:47,421 --> 03:04:51,621
from --it was my understanding that there

4784
03:04:53,427 --> 03:04:55,427
is often

4785
03:04:55,429 --> 03:04:56,430
like grant funding. There's other funding

4786
03:04:56,430 --> 03:04:58,432
sources for low and very

4787
03:04:58,432 --> 03:04:59,399
low, but maybe not for the higher,

4788
03:04:59,399 --> 03:05:01,401
and so if you're a developer that

4789
03:05:01,401 --> 03:05:02,402
has access to that funding, you would want

4790
03:05:02,402 --> 03:05:06,200
to do possibly one way and

4791
03:05:07,407 --> 03:05:08,408
then other developers may want to

4792
03:05:08,408 --> 03:05:10,410
have all of their

4793
03:05:10,410 --> 03:05:11,411
units be moderate and I would rather

4794
03:05:11,411 --> 03:05:12,412
us not dictate that.

4795
03:05:12,412 --> 03:05:14,412
>> again,

4796
03:05:14,414 --> 03:05:16,814
it is a requirement

4797
03:05:17,417 --> 03:05:19,417
in the

4798
03:05:48,415 --> 03:05:49,416
toc policy, but in

4799
03:05:49,416 --> 03:05:50,417
a way, it does provide flexibility

4800
03:05:50,417 --> 03:05:51,418
kind of like in the example that I

4801
03:05:51,418 --> 03:05:52,419
pulled

4802
03:05:52,419 --> 03:05:53,420
up here. They are required to provide

4803
03:05:53,420 --> 03:05:54,421
28 units but the distribution can

4804
03:05:54,421 --> 03:05:55,422
be up

4805
03:05:55,422 --> 03:05:57,424
to them, so they could say, well,

4806
03:05:57,424 --> 03:05:58,425
we are going to do one acutely

4807
03:05:58,425 --> 03:06:00,427
low at 15% and then do the rest that

4808
03:06:00,427 --> 03:06:01,428
moderate.

4809
03:06:01,428 --> 03:06:02,429
>> so it averages out.

4810
03:06:02,429 --> 03:06:03,430
>> so it averages up. The example

4811
03:06:03,430 --> 03:06:04,431
I provided here is supposed to be

4812
03:06:04,431 --> 03:06:05,399
like an even balance mix.

4813
03:06:05,399 --> 03:06:06,400
>> that one

4814
03:06:06,400 --> 03:06:07,401
doesn't qualify theoretically the

4815
03:06:07,401 --> 03:06:08,402
way you did

4816
03:06:08,402 --> 03:06:09,403
it. Would that be approved?

4817
03:06:09,403 --> 03:06:10,404
>> well,

4818
03:06:10,404 --> 03:06:11,405
the average --it is supposed to be

4819
03:06:11,405 --> 03:06:12,406
less than 80%.

4820
03:06:12,406 --> 03:06:13,407
>> oh, I see. Sorry.

4821
03:06:13,407 --> 03:06:14,408
>> honestly, the way that

4822
03:06:14,408 --> 03:06:15,409
we are hearing from developers is

4823
03:06:15,409 --> 03:06:16,410
a lot of them don't even want to do

4824
03:06:16,410 --> 03:06:17,411
moderate because it is too hard to

4825
03:06:17,411 --> 03:06:18,412
find buyers and renters because the

4826
03:06:18,412 --> 03:06:19,413
people

4827
03:06:19,413 --> 03:06:20,414
in that income category, a lot of

4828
03:06:20,414 --> 03:06:21,415
them don't realize they are eligible

4829
03:06:21,415 --> 03:06:22,416
because

4830
03:06:22,416 --> 03:06:23,417
$180,000, you wouldn't think you would

4831
03:06:23,417 --> 03:06:24,418
be eligible for affordable housing

4832
03:06:24,418 --> 03:06:25,419
but to a lot

4833
03:06:25,419 --> 03:06:26,420
of people in that income category

4834
03:06:26,420 --> 03:06:27,421
have so much upward mobility that

4835
03:06:27,421 --> 03:06:28,422
they could see

4836
03:06:28,422 --> 03:06:29,423
themselves out of affordable housing,

4837
03:06:29,423 --> 03:06:30,424
so. They're not really trying to do

4838
03:06:30,424 --> 03:06:31,425
a lot of

4839
03:06:31,425 --> 03:06:32,426
moderate housing from what we've heard.

4840
03:06:32,426 --> 03:06:33,427
>> so for now, staff recommendation

4841
03:06:33,427 --> 03:06:34,428
is to

4842
03:06:34,428 --> 03:06:36,430
be consistent with the way the toc

4843
03:06:36,430 --> 03:06:38,430
policy is written

4844
03:06:38,432 --> 03:06:39,399
and if we find any acute problems,

4845
03:06:39,399 --> 03:06:40,400
we

4846
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:42,402
can circle back with a feasibility

4847
03:06:42,402 --> 03:06:43,403
study or something.

4848
03:06:43,403 --> 03:06:45,403
>> yes.

4849
03:06:48,408 --> 03:06:50,408
>> okay.

4850
03:06:51,411 --> 03:06:52,412
>>

4851
03:06:52,412 --> 03:06:54,414
I was going to say very quickly, sorry,

4852
03:06:54,414 --> 03:06:57,417
that the framing that you did, brandon,

4853
03:06:57,417 --> 03:06:59,419
at the outset in

4854
03:06:59,419 --> 03:07:00,420
terms of affordable, that was spot

4855
03:07:00,420 --> 03:07:01,421
on.

4856
03:07:01,421 --> 03:07:02,422
I've had similar conversations with folks in the

4857
03:07:02,422 --> 03:07:03,423
community. They are shocked when I

4858
03:07:03,423 --> 03:07:05,423
tell

4859
03:07:09,429 --> 03:07:11,429
them that.

4860
03:07:11,431 --> 03:07:12,399
people have such a negative connotation

4861
03:07:12,399 --> 03:07:13,400
in terms of what

4862
03:07:13,400 --> 03:07:15,402
affordable is. They are thinking the

4863
03:07:15,402 --> 03:07:16,403
lowest of the low, and that is not

4864
03:07:16,403 --> 03:07:18,403
theirs

4865
03:07:18,405 --> 03:07:19,406
that is simply not true.

4866
03:07:19,406 --> 03:07:21,408
I mean, the statistics that you shared

4867
03:07:21,408 --> 03:07:22,409
bear that out and I think it's something

4868
03:07:22,409 --> 03:07:24,411
that we collectively need to be mindful

4869
03:07:24,411 --> 03:07:28,110
of as in our negations with

4870
03:07:30,417 --> 03:07:31,418
community members, as affordable is

4871
03:07:31,418 --> 03:07:33,418
not,

4872
03:07:33,420 --> 03:07:35,422
you know, what you think it is.

4873
03:07:35,422 --> 03:07:36,423
you know. And getting more and more

4874
03:07:36,423 --> 03:07:37,424
challenging if

4875
03:07:37,424 --> 03:07:41,240
anything. Even for folks, like you

4876
03:07:45,399 --> 03:07:47,399
said --

4877
03:07:57,411 --> 03:07:58,412
and other

4878
03:07:58,412 --> 03:07:59,413
parts of the country, sure. Six figures.

4879
03:07:59,413 --> 03:08:00,414
the six figures. He would be pretty comfortable.

4880
03:08:00,414 --> 03:08:01,415
that is not

4881
03:08:01,415 --> 03:08:03,417
the case here, and I think that's

4882
03:08:03,417 --> 03:08:04,418
really important for us, so what I

4883
03:08:04,418 --> 03:08:05,419
really

4884
03:08:05,419 --> 03:08:06,420
like about this, you know, and I appreciate

4885
03:08:06,420 --> 03:08:07,421
the earlier conversation, is providing

4886
03:08:07,421 --> 03:08:08,422
that

4887
03:08:08,422 --> 03:08:09,423
flexibility. Not making it so rigid

4888
03:08:09,423 --> 03:08:10,424
that it's going to

4889
03:08:10,424 --> 03:08:12,426
unnecessarily drive up the cost because

4890
03:08:12,426 --> 03:08:13,427
our goal --certainly michael --has

4891
03:08:13,427 --> 03:08:14,428
been,

4892
03:08:14,428 --> 03:08:15,429
had we make this a more attractive

4893
03:08:15,429 --> 03:08:16,430
place for developers to come and say,

4894
03:08:16,430 --> 03:08:17,431
hey,

4895
03:08:17,431 --> 03:08:18,432
we want to invest in your community.

4896
03:08:18,432 --> 03:08:21,401
we want to help those folks that

4897
03:08:21,401 --> 03:08:23,403
are, you know, that are

4898
03:08:23,403 --> 03:08:25,803
fit that affordable [ inaudible ]

4899
03:08:30,410 --> 03:08:32,410
the affordability

4900
03:08:45,425 --> 03:08:46,426
equation you laid out.

4901
03:08:46,426 --> 03:08:47,427
we need to create those options. Because

4902
03:08:47,427 --> 03:08:48,428
right now, we historically have not met

4903
03:08:48,428 --> 03:08:50,430
that challenge, so we have a

4904
03:08:50,430 --> 03:08:51,431
lot of work to do, but I appreciate

4905
03:08:51,431 --> 03:08:52,399
you bringing this forward to us

4906
03:08:52,399 --> 03:08:54,401
tonight, so, hopefully --I would love

4907
03:08:54,401 --> 03:08:56,403
to get a report out within a year

4908
03:08:56,403 --> 03:08:57,404
to see where we stand.

4909
03:08:57,404 --> 03:08:58,405
>> just to

4910
03:08:58,405 --> 03:08:59,406
opine on that, we do the

4911
03:08:59,406 --> 03:09:00,407
annual progress report every year

4912
03:09:00,407 --> 03:09:02,407
which is

4913
03:09:03,410 --> 03:09:04,411
required by hcd which

4914
03:09:04,411 --> 03:09:05,412
we update with unit counts including

4915
03:09:05,412 --> 03:09:06,413
any affordable units and we present

4916
03:09:06,413 --> 03:09:07,414
it to the

4917
03:09:07,414 --> 03:09:09,416
city council it's a year. That comes

4918
03:09:09,416 --> 03:09:10,417
around in april or march. Yeah.

4919
03:09:10,417 --> 03:09:11,418
>>

4920
03:09:11,418 --> 03:09:12,419
okay.

4921
03:09:12,419 --> 03:09:15,419
I'm going to open this

4922
03:09:15,422 --> 03:09:16,423
up to

4923
03:09:16,423 --> 03:09:18,425
public comment because we have not

4924
03:09:18,425 --> 03:09:19,426
done that yet. Tom, would you like

4925
03:09:19,426 --> 03:09:20,427
to make

4926
03:09:20,427 --> 03:09:21,428
any comments this evening? We got a

4927
03:09:21,428 --> 03:09:22,429
note thank you headshake. Anyone in

4928
03:09:22,429 --> 03:09:23,430
the

4929
03:09:23,430 --> 03:09:24,431
virtual audience like to provide comment

4930
03:09:24,431 --> 03:09:25,399
on this item?

4931
03:09:25,399 --> 03:09:27,399
>> please use the

4932
03:09:27,401 --> 03:09:29,401
virtual

4933
03:09:30,404 --> 03:09:31,405
hand feature. I have

4934
03:09:31,405 --> 03:09:32,406
no hands.

4935
03:09:32,406 --> 03:09:33,407
>> audit. With the council

4936
03:09:33,407 --> 03:09:34,408
like to make any final comments or

4937
03:09:34,408 --> 03:09:36,408
make

4938
03:09:36,410 --> 03:09:37,411
a motion?

4939
03:09:37,411 --> 03:09:39,411
>> so

4940
03:09:39,413 --> 03:09:41,413
how do we

4941
03:09:42,416 --> 03:09:44,416
freeze this

4942
03:09:48,422 --> 03:09:50,422
without reading all

4943
03:09:50,424 --> 03:09:51,425
of this?

4944
03:09:51,425 --> 03:09:52,426
>> you can say move the staff

4945
03:09:52,426 --> 03:09:53,427
recommendation.

4946
03:09:53,427 --> 03:09:54,428
>> yeah. >> I'd like

4947
03:09:54,428 --> 03:09:55,429
to

4948
03:09:55,429 --> 03:09:56,430
move the staff recommendation.

4949
03:09:56,430 --> 03:09:57,431
>>

4950
03:09:57,431 --> 03:09:58,432
second.

4951
03:09:58,432 --> 03:10:00,400
>> all in favor, please say

4952
03:10:00,400 --> 03:10:02,400
aye.

4953
03:10:05,405 --> 03:10:06,406
>> aye. >> wonderful. Thank you so

4954
03:10:06,406 --> 03:10:07,407
much.

4955
03:10:07,407 --> 03:10:08,408
>> normally

4956
03:10:08,408 --> 03:10:09,409
I would pause and say it is 10:20

4957
03:10:09,409 --> 03:10:11,411
and we want to continue but we

4958
03:10:11,411 --> 03:10:12,412
are at the end of the agenda and it's just going

4959
03:10:12,412 --> 03:10:13,413
to

4960
03:10:13,413 --> 03:10:14,414
be comments and things. I would like

4961
03:10:14,414 --> 03:10:15,415
to recommend that we keep going. Is

4962
03:10:15,415 --> 03:10:17,415
available with that?

4963
03:10:18,418 --> 03:10:20,818
all right. Chief of

4964
03:10:21,421 --> 03:10:23,421
police comments.

4965
03:10:29,429 --> 03:10:30,430
>> thank you, mayor. We did unfortunately

4966
03:10:30,430 --> 03:10:31,431
on tuesday evening had a

4967
03:10:31,431 --> 03:10:33,400
physical altercation which reported

4968
03:10:33,400 --> 03:10:34,401
--resulted in a death. That case is

4969
03:10:34,401 --> 03:10:35,402
being investigated as

4970
03:10:35,402 --> 03:10:36,403
a homicide and there was an arrest

4971
03:10:36,403 --> 03:10:38,403
made and we

4972
03:10:39,406 --> 03:10:40,407
send out a press release regarding

4973
03:10:40,407 --> 03:10:41,408
that and our hearts

4974
03:10:41,408 --> 03:10:42,409
go out to the folks invited by the

4975
03:10:42,409 --> 03:10:43,410
situation including the victim that

4976
03:10:43,410 --> 03:10:45,410
lost

4977
03:10:45,412 --> 03:10:47,412
her life. That

4978
03:10:48,415 --> 03:10:49,416
concludes my report.

4979
03:10:49,416 --> 03:10:50,417
>> thank you. Can I

4980
03:10:50,417 --> 03:10:51,418
ask a follow-up on

4981
03:10:51,418 --> 03:10:54,418
this? There were several comments

4982
03:10:54,421 --> 03:10:57,421
on rants and raves and

4983
03:11:00,427 --> 03:11:02,427
social media

4984
03:11:02,429 --> 03:11:03,430
about this with half information.

4985
03:11:03,430 --> 03:11:04,431
where does the police

4986
03:11:04,431 --> 03:11:06,400
department post their press releases so we

4987
03:11:06,400 --> 03:11:07,401
can just simply respond and direct

4988
03:11:07,401 --> 03:11:09,401
people

4989
03:11:09,403 --> 03:11:10,404
to that?

4990
03:11:10,404 --> 03:11:11,405
>> so we send them out to

4991
03:11:11,405 --> 03:11:12,406
the media

4992
03:11:12,406 --> 03:11:13,407
outlets, but I can look at putting

4993
03:11:13,407 --> 03:11:15,807
it somewhere so you

4994
03:11:19,413 --> 03:11:21,413
can respond

4995
03:11:40,400 --> 03:11:41,401
back with that.

4996
03:11:41,401 --> 03:11:42,402
>> said if someone is not already

4997
03:11:42,402 --> 03:11:43,403
on the police department's mailing

4998
03:11:43,403 --> 03:11:44,404
list, they wouldn't

4999
03:11:44,404 --> 03:11:45,405
necessarily get that press release.

5000
03:11:45,405 --> 03:11:46,406
>> correct but they also usually get

5001
03:11:46,406 --> 03:11:47,407
put out on

5002
03:11:47,407 --> 03:11:49,409
social but I don't know this one has

5003
03:11:49,409 --> 03:11:50,410
gone out in that direction. I

5004
03:11:50,410 --> 03:11:51,411
don't believe that it has.

5005
03:11:51,411 --> 03:11:52,412
>> okay.

5006
03:11:52,412 --> 03:11:53,413
I'll follow up with you and it may

5007
03:11:53,413 --> 03:11:55,415
--I think it may have gotten to the

5008
03:11:55,415 --> 03:11:56,416
news already.

5009
03:11:56,416 --> 03:11:57,417
>>

5010
03:11:57,417 --> 03:11:58,418
it did. We did it on camera while you

5011
03:11:58,418 --> 03:11:59,419
were in closed session.

5012
03:11:59,419 --> 03:12:00,420
>>

5013
03:12:00,420 --> 03:12:01,421
thank you.

5014
03:12:01,421 --> 03:12:02,422
>> all right. City manager

5015
03:12:02,422 --> 03:12:03,423
update.

5016
03:12:03,423 --> 03:12:04,424
>> all right. We are going

5017
03:12:04,424 --> 03:12:05,425
to start with an update from yves

5018
03:12:05,425 --> 03:12:08,425
on the 2025 holidays. Community events

5019
03:12:08,428 --> 03:12:09,429
and programs.

5020
03:12:09,429 --> 03:12:10,430
>> good evening, council. We

5021
03:12:10,430 --> 03:12:11,431
have a lot of holiday events coming

5022
03:12:11,431 --> 03:12:12,399
up.

5023
03:12:12,399 --> 03:12:13,400
I'll try to keep this quick and brief

5024
03:12:13,400 --> 03:12:14,401
but there is a lot of

5025
03:12:14,401 --> 03:12:15,402
exciting things to share, so starting

5026
03:12:15,402 --> 03:12:16,403
off actually this friday, and the

5027
03:12:16,403 --> 03:12:17,404
downtown from 5:00

5028
03:12:17,404 --> 03:12:19,406
to 9:00 p.m., we have pink friday,

5029
03:12:19,406 --> 03:12:20,407
and this event has a

5030
03:12:20,407 --> 03:12:21,408
lot going on. It has the other evening

5031
03:12:21,408 --> 03:12:22,409
holiday market, sip and shop candycane

5032
03:12:22,409 --> 03:12:23,410
lane, live

5033
03:12:23,410 --> 03:12:25,412
entertainment, toys for tots toy drive

5034
03:12:25,412 --> 03:12:26,413
and the christmas tree lighting also

5035
03:12:26,413 --> 03:12:30,613
and very excited to have the council

5036
03:12:34,421 --> 03:12:35,422
at the

5037
03:12:35,422 --> 03:12:37,424
christmas tree lighting. That will be

5038
03:12:37,424 --> 03:12:38,425
at 7:30 p.m. So looking forward

5039
03:12:38,425 --> 03:12:40,427
to celebrating the start of the festive

5040
03:12:40,427 --> 03:12:42,427
season downtown

5041
03:12:43,430 --> 03:12:44,431
on friday. Then on

5042
03:12:44,431 --> 03:12:45,432
saturday, november 22nd from 9:00

5043
03:12:45,432 --> 03:12:46,400
a.m. To 3:00 p.m., we have the harvest

5044
03:12:46,400 --> 03:12:48,400
craft fair at

5045
03:12:49,403 --> 03:12:51,403
the

5046
03:12:52,406 --> 03:12:53,407
senior center. And you get free

5047
03:12:53,407 --> 03:12:55,409
hot chocolate, and it's a free public

5048
03:12:55,409 --> 03:12:56,410
event where you get to get

5049
03:12:56,410 --> 03:12:58,412
the jump on your holiday shopping

5050
03:12:58,412 --> 03:13:00,412
from

5051
03:13:01,415 --> 03:13:02,416
local artisans. Great crafts, and

5052
03:13:02,416 --> 03:13:04,418
it really is a very big event for

5053
03:13:04,418 --> 03:13:06,420
the senior center so we hope to

5054
03:13:06,420 --> 03:13:08,422
see everyone there, also. Santa house

5055
03:13:08,422 --> 03:13:10,424
hours are going to start after thanksgiving,

5056
03:13:10,424 --> 03:13:12,424
november

5057
03:13:14,428 --> 03:13:15,429
29th. Downtown martinez will be posting

5058
03:13:15,429 --> 03:13:16,430
information on their website soon

5059
03:13:16,430 --> 03:13:17,431
for the

5060
03:13:17,431 --> 03:13:19,399
actual schedule of days and hours

5061
03:13:19,399 --> 03:13:20,400
were you can go visit santa downtown so

5062
03:13:20,400 --> 03:13:22,402
that's always an exciting part for

5063
03:13:22,402 --> 03:13:24,402
the community. Friday,

5064
03:13:25,405 --> 03:13:28,405
december 5th is the parade

5065
03:13:30,410 --> 03:13:31,411
of lights. The annual holiday parade downtown. That

5066
03:13:31,411 --> 03:13:33,411
will be at

5067
03:13:34,414 --> 03:13:35,415
7:00 p.m. We

5068
03:13:35,415 --> 03:13:37,417
do have a new parade route this year

5069
03:13:37,417 --> 03:13:40,420
that we are going to be trailing where

5070
03:13:40,420 --> 03:13:44,200
we start on ward and go

5071
03:13:46,426 --> 03:13:48,426
down towards

5072
03:13:48,428 --> 03:13:49,429
el hambra. This will be giving the

5073
03:13:49,429 --> 03:13:52,399
community a ton more room to

5074
03:13:52,399 --> 03:13:55,402
get that front seat spectator spot

5075
03:13:55,402 --> 03:13:57,802
to watch the parade

5076
03:13:58,405 --> 03:14:00,405
go by.

5077
03:14:00,407 --> 03:14:01,408
you don't have to tread a crane your

5078
03:14:01,408 --> 03:14:03,408
neck over a

5079
03:14:03,410 --> 03:14:04,411
bunch of people in front of you. You

5080
03:14:04,411 --> 03:14:05,412
can see it up close and

5081
03:14:05,412 --> 03:14:07,414
personal so we are looking forward

5082
03:14:07,414 --> 03:14:08,415
to having the community be able to

5083
03:14:08,415 --> 03:14:10,415
get that

5084
03:14:10,417 --> 03:14:11,418
front road --row and spread out a

5085
03:14:11,418 --> 03:14:13,420
little bit. Not for credit but still

5086
03:14:13,420 --> 03:14:14,421
be in the downtown area to enjoy it.

5087
03:14:14,421 --> 03:14:16,421
there's

5088
03:14:16,423 --> 03:14:18,823
also a I spy

5089
03:14:22,429 --> 03:14:23,430
a ranger team this year. We will show

5090
03:14:23,430 --> 03:14:25,432
that on social media all the different

5091
03:14:25,432 --> 03:14:28,402
ways to participate in that scavenger

5092
03:14:28,402 --> 03:14:30,802
hunt. And then, also,

5093
03:14:31,405 --> 03:14:32,406
let's see.

5094
03:14:32,406 --> 03:14:34,408
on december 12 at 6:00 p.m. There

5095
03:14:34,408 --> 03:14:37,408
is a committee organized event

5096
03:14:37,411 --> 03:14:38,412
for the martinez

5097
03:14:38,412 --> 03:14:40,414
lighted boat parade and this will

5098
03:14:40,414 --> 03:14:41,415
be the first year hopefully of this

5099
03:14:41,415 --> 03:14:42,416
new annual

5100
03:14:42,416 --> 03:14:45,416
tradition, and, we invite everyone

5101
03:14:45,419 --> 03:14:46,420
to go down to the martinez fishing

5102
03:14:46,420 --> 03:14:47,421
pier and watch the

5103
03:14:47,421 --> 03:14:50,421
parade of festively decorated boats

5104
03:14:55,429 --> 03:14:57,429
go by.

5105
03:14:58,432 --> 03:14:59,399
so, those were all of the main

5106
03:14:59,399 --> 03:15:00,400
holiday events that are currently

5107
03:15:00,400 --> 03:15:01,401
scheduled. There may be more to come,

5108
03:15:01,401 --> 03:15:04,404
and we look forward to sharing

5109
03:15:04,404 --> 03:15:06,406
this with you at

5110
03:15:06,406 --> 03:15:07,407
that time.

5111
03:15:07,407 --> 03:15:08,408
>> yves, can you repeat

5112
03:15:08,408 --> 03:15:09,409
the date

5113
03:15:09,409 --> 03:15:10,410
of the senior center craft fair?

5114
03:15:10,410 --> 03:15:11,411
>>

5115
03:15:11,411 --> 03:15:13,413
that is november 22nd. It is actually

5116
03:15:13,413 --> 03:15:14,414
this saturday.

5117
03:15:14,414 --> 03:15:15,415
>> and

5118
03:15:15,415 --> 03:15:16,416
are the council assumed to be in the

5119
03:15:16,416 --> 03:15:18,416
parade

5120
03:15:19,419 --> 03:15:24,219
of lights? Do we already have a spot?

5121
03:15:24,424 --> 03:15:25,425
>> yes. You have to have a spot with all

5122
03:15:25,425 --> 03:15:27,427
the bells and whistles.

5123
03:15:27,427 --> 03:15:28,428
>> perfect. >> I'll be calling all

5124
03:15:28,428 --> 03:15:30,428
of you

5125
03:15:34,401 --> 03:15:36,401
for that.

5126
03:15:39,406 --> 03:15:40,407
>> when is that? What's the date on

5127
03:15:40,407 --> 03:15:41,408
that?

5128
03:15:41,408 --> 03:15:43,410
>> december 5th on the first

5129
03:15:43,410 --> 03:15:45,410
friday

5130
03:15:46,413 --> 03:15:48,413
of december.

5131
03:16:03,430 --> 03:16:04,431
>> and to clarify, we are doing the

5132
03:16:04,431 --> 03:16:05,432
tree lighting this friday.

5133
03:16:05,432 --> 03:16:06,400
>>

5134
03:16:06,400 --> 03:16:07,401
yes. The tree lighting is this friday,

5135
03:16:07,401 --> 03:16:08,402
november 21st.

5136
03:16:08,402 --> 03:16:09,403
>> before thanksgiving.

5137
03:16:09,403 --> 03:16:10,404
>> before

5138
03:16:10,404 --> 03:16:11,405
thanksgiving because we really love

5139
03:16:11,405 --> 03:16:12,406
holidays and it will be at 7:30 p.m.

5140
03:16:12,406 --> 03:16:13,407
the

5141
03:16:13,407 --> 03:16:14,408
actual pink event friday is going

5142
03:16:14,408 --> 03:16:15,409
to be from 5:00 p.m. To 9:00 p.m.

5143
03:16:15,409 --> 03:16:16,410
>>

5144
03:16:16,410 --> 03:16:18,410
okay. All right.

5145
03:16:18,412 --> 03:16:19,413
say nothing. You should let folks

5146
03:16:19,413 --> 03:16:21,415
cut the turkey before you

5147
03:16:21,415 --> 03:16:22,416
light the tree but that's just me.

5148
03:16:22,416 --> 03:16:23,417
but hey, costco thought it was christmas

5149
03:16:23,417 --> 03:16:24,418
in august

5150
03:16:24,418 --> 03:16:25,419
so what do I know.

5151
03:16:25,419 --> 03:16:26,420
>> so, jay, since

5152
03:16:26,420 --> 03:16:27,421
you are the vice mayor and

5153
03:16:27,421 --> 03:16:28,422
I booked my flights for thanksgiving

5154
03:16:28,422 --> 03:16:29,423
before I knew the tree lighting was

5155
03:16:29,423 --> 03:16:30,424
on the

5156
03:16:30,424 --> 03:16:31,425
21st, you are officially in charge

5157
03:16:31,425 --> 03:16:33,425
on

5158
03:16:33,427 --> 03:16:34,428
friday. Great.

5159
03:16:34,428 --> 03:16:35,429
>> those are all the

5160
03:16:35,429 --> 03:16:37,429
holiday

5161
03:16:40,400 --> 03:16:41,401
events.

5162
03:16:41,401 --> 03:16:43,401
>>

5163
03:16:43,403 --> 03:16:44,404
excellent. Thank you so much.

5164
03:16:44,404 --> 03:16:45,405
>>

5165
03:16:45,405 --> 03:16:46,406
so, a couple more things. Jill has

5166
03:16:46,406 --> 03:16:47,407
an update on the holiday guide that

5167
03:16:47,407 --> 03:16:48,408
she

5168
03:16:48,408 --> 03:16:49,409
wants to share with everyone.

5169
03:16:49,409 --> 03:16:50,410
>> [

5170
03:16:50,410 --> 03:16:52,412
inaudible ] I wanted to add,

5171
03:16:52,412 --> 03:16:54,412
as well, that

5172
03:16:55,415 --> 03:16:57,415
the downtown

5173
03:16:57,417 --> 03:16:58,418
martinez in partnership with the city

5174
03:16:58,418 --> 03:17:00,420
is creating the first ever holiday

5175
03:17:00,420 --> 03:17:02,422
gift guide. 16 pages, and it will be

5176
03:17:02,422 --> 03:17:04,422
inserted

5177
03:17:08,428 --> 03:17:10,428
into your

5178
03:17:10,430 --> 03:17:11,431
town monthly, which they have presence

5179
03:17:11,431 --> 03:17:13,400
and a lot of our surrounding jurisdictions

5180
03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:15,402
but not in martinez so they are new to

5181
03:17:15,402 --> 03:17:16,403
the martinez for this. It will reach

5182
03:17:16,403 --> 03:17:17,404
over 10,000 households as well as

5183
03:17:17,404 --> 03:17:19,404
we will have

5184
03:17:19,406 --> 03:17:20,407
standalone guides that will be pulled

5185
03:17:20,407 --> 03:17:21,408
out

5186
03:17:21,408 --> 03:17:22,409
and shared at the tree lighting event,

5187
03:17:22,409 --> 03:17:23,410
as well as the participating businesses

5188
03:17:23,410 --> 03:17:24,411
will have

5189
03:17:24,411 --> 03:17:25,412
copies. We'll also have qr codes in

5190
03:17:25,412 --> 03:17:27,414
different posters around at the stores

5191
03:17:27,414 --> 03:17:29,416
that people can scan and then view

5192
03:17:29,416 --> 03:17:31,416
the guide with

5193
03:17:31,418 --> 03:17:32,419
all the [ inaudible ] layers --shop

5194
03:17:32,419 --> 03:17:34,419
local

5195
03:17:38,425 --> 03:17:40,425
--

5196
03:17:47,401 --> 03:17:48,402
's all with the intent

5197
03:17:48,402 --> 03:17:50,404
to get to the shop local this holiday season.

5198
03:17:50,404 --> 03:17:51,405
[ inaudible ]

5199
03:17:51,405 --> 03:17:52,406
>> great. Thank

5200
03:17:52,406 --> 03:17:53,407
you.

5201
03:17:53,407 --> 03:17:54,408
>> yes. The last thing I want

5202
03:17:54,408 --> 03:17:55,409
to mention is we did have

5203
03:17:55,409 --> 03:17:56,410
a fantastic ribbon-cutting reopening

5204
03:17:56,410 --> 03:17:59,413
of fishing pier back on november

5205
03:17:59,413 --> 03:18:00,414
8th. In the mist, in the

5206
03:18:00,414 --> 03:18:01,415
fog that was rolling in that morning

5207
03:18:01,415 --> 03:18:02,416
with 100+ of our closest friends.

5208
03:18:02,416 --> 03:18:04,416
it was

5209
03:18:04,418 --> 03:18:05,419
fantastic. One thing that wasn't ready for the

5210
03:18:05,419 --> 03:18:08,419
grand opening but is about

5211
03:18:08,422 --> 03:18:10,822
to be installed at

5212
03:18:11,425 --> 03:18:13,425
the peer

5213
03:18:13,427 --> 03:18:14,428
are the fishing pole holders. Joe

5214
03:18:14,428 --> 03:18:15,429
just got 12 of them

5215
03:18:15,429 --> 03:18:17,431
in. Public works is going to be installing

5216
03:18:17,431 --> 03:18:18,432
them. They might even be ready by

5217
03:18:18,432 --> 03:18:20,400
the weekend. That was one thing that

5218
03:18:20,400 --> 03:18:21,401
we hadn't quite gotten to.

5219
03:18:21,401 --> 03:18:22,402
>> and

5220
03:18:22,402 --> 03:18:23,403
they want to be pvc pipes screwed

5221
03:18:23,403 --> 03:18:25,403
into the

5222
03:18:29,409 --> 03:18:31,409
railing. Right?

5223
03:18:32,412 --> 03:18:33,413
great.

5224
03:18:33,413 --> 03:18:34,414
>> that's all I had. >>

5225
03:18:34,414 --> 03:18:35,415
okay. Next one is subcommittee and

5226
03:18:35,415 --> 03:18:36,416
outside agency reports. You are welcome

5227
03:18:36,416 --> 03:18:37,417
to keep

5228
03:18:37,417 --> 03:18:38,418
it brief. I think many of the things

5229
03:18:38,418 --> 03:18:41,421
that we've talked about tonight were

5230
03:18:41,421 --> 03:18:42,422
covered already. Is there anything

5231
03:18:42,422 --> 03:18:43,423
else

5232
03:18:43,423 --> 03:18:44,424
from subcommittee that you would like

5233
03:18:44,424 --> 03:18:45,425
to report out on? Economic developers

5234
03:18:45,425 --> 03:18:46,426
or budget

5235
03:18:46,426 --> 03:18:47,427
and finance?

5236
03:18:47,427 --> 03:18:48,428
>> yes, mayor. Just very

5237
03:18:48,428 --> 03:18:49,429
quickly, council member mckillop and

5238
03:18:49,429 --> 03:18:50,430
I sit on

5239
03:18:50,430 --> 03:18:52,430
the economic development

5240
03:18:53,400 --> 03:18:56,403
subcommittee. We had a robust discussion

5241
03:18:56,403 --> 03:18:58,803
with kaiser permanente and

5242
03:18:59,406 --> 03:19:01,406
the county

5243
03:19:04,411 --> 03:19:05,412
hospital who provided of reviews of their

5244
03:19:05,412 --> 03:19:06,413
operations here in martinez and a

5245
03:19:06,413 --> 03:19:07,414
discussion

5246
03:19:07,414 --> 03:19:08,415
about the impacts of some of the rim

5247
03:19:08,415 --> 03:19:11,415
healthcare cuts as a result

5248
03:19:11,418 --> 03:19:14,418
of recent federal actions that

5249
03:19:14,421 --> 03:19:16,421
were undertaken.

5250
03:19:16,423 --> 03:19:17,424
one thing which was news to me was

5251
03:19:17,424 --> 03:19:18,425
that in

5252
03:19:18,425 --> 03:19:20,427
spite of that, the county hospital

5253
03:19:20,427 --> 03:19:21,428
is actually looking at a very ambitious

5254
03:19:21,428 --> 03:19:23,430
expansion, so they are going to be

5255
03:19:23,430 --> 03:19:26,400
doing a lot of construction

5256
03:19:26,400 --> 03:19:29,403
it sounds like in the very

5257
03:19:29,403 --> 03:19:31,403
near future.

5258
03:20:00,400 --> 03:20:02,402
which will no doubt bring a lot of construction workers

5259
03:20:02,402 --> 03:20:03,403
into martinez, but also, there will

5260
03:20:03,403 --> 03:20:04,404
be some

5261
03:20:04,404 --> 03:20:05,405
associated headaches, perhaps with

5262
03:20:05,405 --> 03:20:06,406
that. We want to make sure we mitigate

5263
03:20:06,406 --> 03:20:07,407
that to

5264
03:20:07,407 --> 03:20:08,408
the extent possible, and so, I think

5265
03:20:08,408 --> 03:20:09,409
we got a commitment from them. They

5266
03:20:09,409 --> 03:20:10,410
have

5267
03:20:10,410 --> 03:20:11,411
a plan in place to do that. The v-8

5268
03:20:11,411 --> 03:20:12,412
was not able to participate because

5269
03:20:12,412 --> 03:20:14,414
of the federal government shutdown

5270
03:20:14,414 --> 03:20:15,415
which is still going on but we hope

5271
03:20:15,415 --> 03:20:16,416
to

5272
03:20:16,416 --> 03:20:17,417
bring them back, but would love to

5273
03:20:17,417 --> 03:20:18,418
be able to schedule tours of all

5274
03:20:18,418 --> 03:20:20,420
of those facilities at some point

5275
03:20:20,420 --> 03:20:21,421
next year, as well, so. But that was

5276
03:20:21,421 --> 03:20:22,422
it. Debbie, did I miss anything?

5277
03:20:22,422 --> 03:20:23,423
>>

5278
03:20:23,423 --> 03:20:24,424
I think you mentioned all the things

5279
03:20:24,424 --> 03:20:25,425
we discussed.

5280
03:20:25,425 --> 03:20:26,426
coincidentally, this morning, I got

5281
03:20:26,426 --> 03:20:27,427
to meet with david culberson, the

5282
03:20:27,427 --> 03:20:28,428
ceo of the

5283
03:20:28,428 --> 03:20:29,429
hospital, and we got to see where

5284
03:20:29,429 --> 03:20:31,431
the new building is going to be built

5285
03:20:31,431 --> 03:20:32,432
in the future. I was there on another

5286
03:20:32,432 --> 03:20:33,400
unrelated matter but got

5287
03:20:33,400 --> 03:20:35,402
to visit the hospital, and they will

5288
03:20:35,402 --> 03:20:37,404
be a lot of change and I'm looking

5289
03:20:37,404 --> 03:20:38,405
forward to that, as well.

5290
03:20:38,405 --> 03:20:39,406
>> the one

5291
03:20:39,406 --> 03:20:41,408
thing I think was really a

5292
03:20:41,408 --> 03:20:43,408
big take

5293
03:20:44,411 --> 03:20:46,411
away was, we

5294
03:20:46,413 --> 03:20:47,414
are a city of 36,000 but we have these

5295
03:20:47,414 --> 03:20:49,416
three medical centers and they

5296
03:20:49,416 --> 03:20:50,417
are a huge linchpin for our community. There's

5297
03:20:50,417 --> 03:20:52,419
a lot of martinez residence and played

5298
03:20:52,419 --> 03:20:53,420
at those centers but then when you

5299
03:20:53,420 --> 03:20:55,420
think about

5300
03:20:55,422 --> 03:20:56,423
the economic impact that these facilities

5301
03:20:56,423 --> 03:20:58,425
have, it was a

5302
03:20:58,425 --> 03:20:59,426
really good, it was one of the better

5303
03:20:59,426 --> 03:21:00,427
subcommittees I have to say that

5304
03:21:00,427 --> 03:21:02,429
--meetings that I've had the opportunity

5305
03:21:02,429 --> 03:21:06,290
to participate in. Anyway, that was

5306
03:21:08,402 --> 03:21:09,403
it.

5307
03:21:09,403 --> 03:21:11,403
>>

5308
03:21:14,408 --> 03:21:15,409
one of the

5309
03:21:15,409 --> 03:21:17,411
additional challenges they talked about

5310
03:21:17,411 --> 03:21:18,412
was parking and so hopefully we can find

5311
03:21:18,412 --> 03:21:19,413
ways in which

5312
03:21:19,413 --> 03:21:20,414
we can help support some of their

5313
03:21:20,414 --> 03:21:21,415
parking needs especially during construction

5314
03:21:21,415 --> 03:21:22,416
phases in

5315
03:21:22,416 --> 03:21:23,417
early next year or by 2026.

5316
03:21:23,417 --> 03:21:24,418
>> are

5317
03:21:24,418 --> 03:21:25,419
you about kaiser? Or the county?

5318
03:21:25,419 --> 03:21:26,420
>>

5319
03:21:26,420 --> 03:21:27,421
the county.

5320
03:21:27,421 --> 03:21:28,422
>> mike, would you like

5321
03:21:28,422 --> 03:21:29,423
to speak to the parking coronation

5322
03:21:29,423 --> 03:21:30,424
that

5323
03:21:30,424 --> 03:21:31,425
you are doing with the county?

5324
03:21:31,425 --> 03:21:32,426
>>

5325
03:21:32,426 --> 03:21:33,427
you

5326
03:21:33,427 --> 03:21:34,428
can.

5327
03:21:34,428 --> 03:21:35,429
>> the county has approached

5328
03:21:35,429 --> 03:21:36,430
the city asking to be able to use

5329
03:21:36,430 --> 03:21:37,431
part

5330
03:21:37,431 --> 03:21:38,432
of the marina temporarily for a few

5331
03:21:38,432 --> 03:21:39,433
years.

5332
03:21:39,433 --> 03:21:40,400
we also wanted to coordinator with

5333
03:21:40,400 --> 03:21:41,401
state

5334
03:21:41,401 --> 03:21:42,402
lands to see if that was acceptable

5335
03:21:42,402 --> 03:21:43,403
and they believe they can make an

5336
03:21:43,403 --> 03:21:44,404
exception

5337
03:21:44,404 --> 03:21:46,406
for that type of

5338
03:21:46,406 --> 03:21:47,407
use for a temporary basis. We've been

5339
03:21:47,407 --> 03:21:49,407
working with

5340
03:21:53,413 --> 03:21:55,413
the county

5341
03:22:02,422 --> 03:22:04,422
they

5342
03:22:04,424 --> 03:22:05,425
need to go forward to the board of supervisors

5343
03:22:05,425 --> 03:22:07,427
to get approval before we

5344
03:22:07,427 --> 03:22:08,428
were able to bring it back to the

5345
03:22:08,428 --> 03:22:09,429
council for discussion, and they did

5346
03:22:09,429 --> 03:22:10,430
that yesterday,

5347
03:22:10,430 --> 03:22:11,431
so they got approval yesterday so

5348
03:22:11,431 --> 03:22:12,432
the goal would be to try to bring

5349
03:22:12,432 --> 03:22:13,400
something

5350
03:22:13,400 --> 03:22:14,401
before the council before the end

5351
03:22:14,401 --> 03:22:15,402
of the year because they actually

5352
03:22:15,402 --> 03:22:16,403
need the

5353
03:22:16,403 --> 03:22:17,404
temporary parking as soon as possible.

5354
03:22:17,404 --> 03:22:18,405
and then we figured, the two years,

5355
03:22:18,405 --> 03:22:19,406
we would

5356
03:22:19,406 --> 03:22:20,407
have a discussion based on where we

5357
03:22:20,407 --> 03:22:21,408
are the conversation to see if we

5358
03:22:21,408 --> 03:22:22,409
get

5359
03:22:22,409 --> 03:22:23,410
accepted for another year.

5360
03:22:23,410 --> 03:22:24,411
>> with

5361
03:22:24,411 --> 03:22:25,412
that generate revenue?

5362
03:22:25,412 --> 03:22:26,413
>> it would

5363
03:22:26,413 --> 03:22:27,414
actually, yes.

5364
03:22:27,414 --> 03:22:28,415
he would generate revenue. Part of

5365
03:22:28,415 --> 03:22:30,415
the agreement would

5366
03:22:31,418 --> 03:22:32,419
be -- [ inaudible ] that went on out

5367
03:22:32,419 --> 03:22:33,420
there as well as some restriping that

5368
03:22:33,420 --> 03:22:34,421
will

5369
03:22:34,421 --> 03:22:35,422
happen. It's part of the agreement

5370
03:22:35,422 --> 03:22:36,423
that the county will be reimbursing

5371
03:22:36,423 --> 03:22:37,424
us

5372
03:22:37,424 --> 03:22:38,425
for that cost as well as doing $12,000 a

5373
03:22:38,425 --> 03:22:40,825
year for license agreement.

5374
03:22:42,429 --> 03:22:43,430
>> and this is coming back

5375
03:22:43,430 --> 03:22:45,432
to us at a future date, so you have to

5376
03:22:45,432 --> 03:22:47,432
go into

5377
03:22:50,404 --> 03:22:51,405
much detail.

5378
03:22:51,405 --> 03:22:52,406
>> thanks. >> the other subcommittee

5379
03:22:52,406 --> 03:22:53,407
report out

5380
03:22:53,407 --> 03:22:54,408
is for budget and finance subcommittee. You

5381
03:22:54,408 --> 03:22:56,408
guys

5382
03:22:59,413 --> 03:23:00,414
met two days ago. As testing boy scouts

5383
03:23:00,414 --> 03:23:01,415
--'s but you came

5384
03:23:01,415 --> 03:23:03,417
in and disrupted our meeting. I wanted

5385
03:23:03,417 --> 03:23:05,417
to note that

5386
03:23:09,423 --> 03:23:11,423
for our

5387
03:23:12,426 --> 03:23:13,427
. We were heavily in a

5388
03:23:13,427 --> 03:23:14,428
budget and finance subcommittee.

5389
03:23:14,428 --> 03:23:15,429
>>

5390
03:23:15,429 --> 03:23:16,430
and they were respectful. They were

5391
03:23:16,430 --> 03:23:17,431
quiet and

5392
03:23:17,431 --> 03:23:18,432
they made squeaky noises with their

5393
03:23:18,432 --> 03:23:19,433
shoes.

5394
03:23:19,433 --> 03:23:20,400
>> they did squeak. A lot of

5395
03:23:20,400 --> 03:23:21,401
squeaking. [

5396
03:23:21,401 --> 03:23:22,402
inaudible -overlapping speakers ] 's

5397
03:23:22,402 --> 03:23:23,403
but just the two items that we heard

5398
03:23:23,403 --> 03:23:24,404
in regards to the purchasing policy,

5399
03:23:24,404 --> 03:23:25,405
because we are working on a revised

5400
03:23:25,405 --> 03:23:26,406
purchasing

5401
03:23:26,406 --> 03:23:27,407
policy for the city, and the other

5402
03:23:27,407 --> 03:23:30,407
was reviewing the citywide payment

5403
03:23:33,413 --> 03:23:35,413
processing system.

5404
03:23:57,404 --> 03:23:58,405
there

5405
03:23:58,405 --> 03:23:59,406
are some vendors we need to select

5406
03:23:59,406 --> 03:24:00,407
from so we've narrowed down the field

5407
03:24:00,407 --> 03:24:02,407
and that

5408
03:24:02,409 --> 03:24:03,410
will come back to us, but it was awfully cute

5409
03:24:03,410 --> 03:24:04,411
to see all the boy

5410
03:24:04,411 --> 03:24:05,412
scouts come in. The council chambers

5411
03:24:05,412 --> 03:24:06,413
were empty. I don't think there was

5412
03:24:06,413 --> 03:24:07,414
like

5413
03:24:07,414 --> 03:24:09,416
one person there. And all of a sudden,

5414
03:24:09,416 --> 03:24:10,417
it was filled with all of these

5415
03:24:10,417 --> 03:24:11,418
children, and they sat quietly for,

5416
03:24:11,418 --> 03:24:12,419
you know, a good 10 minutes, taking

5417
03:24:12,419 --> 03:24:14,419
it

5418
03:24:14,421 --> 03:24:15,422
all in. And then they just left, and

5419
03:24:15,422 --> 03:24:16,423
went on their way, so it is

5420
03:24:16,423 --> 03:24:18,425
really nice to see them. It was kind

5421
03:24:18,425 --> 03:24:19,426
of cute.

5422
03:24:19,426 --> 03:24:20,427
>> we did debrief and

5423
03:24:20,427 --> 03:24:21,428
I asked them for any feedback of what they had heard

5424
03:24:21,428 --> 03:24:22,429
and learned.

5425
03:24:22,429 --> 03:24:23,430
>>

5426
03:24:23,430 --> 03:24:24,431
and what did they say?

5427
03:24:24,431 --> 03:24:25,432
>> I can't

5428
03:24:25,432 --> 03:24:26,400
even remember but they all earned

5429
03:24:26,400 --> 03:24:27,401
their

5430
03:24:27,401 --> 03:24:28,402
badges for community involvement that

5431
03:24:28,402 --> 03:24:29,403
night.

5432
03:24:29,403 --> 03:24:30,404
>> they were riveted. >> they

5433
03:24:30,404 --> 03:24:31,405
did report

5434
03:24:31,405 --> 03:24:33,405
words

5435
03:24:33,407 --> 03:24:35,407
I know

5436
03:24:35,409 --> 03:24:36,410
you had been saying so I knew they were

5437
03:24:36,410 --> 03:24:37,411
listening.

5438
03:24:37,411 --> 03:24:38,412
>> is

5439
03:24:38,412 --> 03:24:39,413
for us at that agency report outs,

5440
03:24:39,413 --> 03:24:40,414
I wanted to give a quick note that

5441
03:24:40,414 --> 03:24:41,415
we

5442
03:24:41,415 --> 03:24:42,416
had our quarterly meeting with the

5443
03:24:42,416 --> 03:24:43,417
county representatives. A report out on

5444
03:24:43,417 --> 03:24:44,418
this periodically.

5445
03:24:44,418 --> 03:24:45,419
we have a standing meeting with the

5446
03:24:45,419 --> 03:24:46,420
folks from the jail, from housing

5447
03:24:46,420 --> 03:24:48,420
and

5448
03:24:48,422 --> 03:24:50,422
homelessness services with

5449
03:24:50,424 --> 03:24:51,425
a 3 with the hospital and david culberson's

5450
03:24:51,425 --> 03:24:52,426
on that call because he represents

5451
03:24:52,426 --> 03:24:54,428
the hospital. The biggest concerns of course

5452
03:24:54,428 --> 03:24:55,429
are releasing people from the jail,

5453
03:24:55,429 --> 03:24:56,430
releasing people

5454
03:24:56,430 --> 03:24:57,431
from psychiatric emergency services

5455
03:24:57,431 --> 03:24:59,431
and everyone

5456
03:25:03,403 --> 03:25:04,404
kind of being

5457
03:25:04,404 --> 03:25:05,405
in martinez and not necessarily having

5458
03:25:05,405 --> 03:25:06,406
transportation or taking advantage

5459
03:25:06,406 --> 03:25:08,408
of transportation and leaving, so,

5460
03:25:08,408 --> 03:25:09,409
that was the driver for starting that meeting

5461
03:25:09,409 --> 03:25:10,410
this past meeting that we

5462
03:25:10,410 --> 03:25:11,411
had really was talking a lot about

5463
03:25:11,411 --> 03:25:12,412
mental health issues, and we were

5464
03:25:12,412 --> 03:25:13,413
able to

5465
03:25:13,413 --> 03:25:15,415
provide after that meeting some stats

5466
03:25:15,415 --> 03:25:16,416
for --from martinez on some of the

5467
03:25:16,416 --> 03:25:18,416
issues

5468
03:25:18,418 --> 03:25:20,818
that we have been

5469
03:25:21,421 --> 03:25:23,421
having with

5470
03:25:24,424 --> 03:25:25,425
mental health

5471
03:25:25,425 --> 03:25:27,427
calls and not getting the support

5472
03:25:27,427 --> 03:25:28,428
that we need from the county, so that

5473
03:25:28,428 --> 03:25:29,429
was that

5474
03:25:29,429 --> 03:25:30,430
meeting that we had. Any other outside

5475
03:25:30,430 --> 03:25:31,431
agency meetings that we attended?

5476
03:25:31,431 --> 03:25:32,432
>> yeah. Celeste

5477
03:25:32,432 --> 03:25:33,400
thursday, november 13th, attended

5478
03:25:33,400 --> 03:25:35,400
our trans pack

5479
03:25:35,402 --> 03:25:39,200
committee meeting. One of the big

5480
03:25:39,406 --> 03:25:41,406
items

5481
03:25:42,409 --> 03:25:44,809
is measured j21a

5482
03:25:47,414 --> 03:25:48,415
fund safe transportation for children

5483
03:25:48,415 --> 03:25:50,415
which includes funding

5484
03:25:51,418 --> 03:25:52,419
to improve

5485
03:25:52,419 --> 03:25:54,421
transportation access and safety for

5486
03:25:54,421 --> 03:25:55,422
students in our sub impact region.

5487
03:25:55,422 --> 03:25:57,424
so, we approved funds in

5488
03:25:57,424 --> 03:25:59,424
the amount

5489
03:26:00,427 --> 03:26:02,427
of 41,000 two

5490
03:26:03,430 --> 03:26:05,430
participate

5491
03:26:06,400 --> 03:26:08,400
in a two-month

5492
03:26:08,402 --> 03:26:09,403
summer program. It would be june and

5493
03:26:09,403 --> 03:26:11,403
july of 2026 for

5494
03:26:12,406 --> 03:26:14,406
youth ages

5495
03:26:14,408 --> 03:26:15,409
6 to 18 can ride buses free without

5496
03:26:15,409 --> 03:26:17,409
passes.

5497
03:26:18,412 --> 03:26:21,415
and then, on the heels of that will

5498
03:26:21,415 --> 03:26:25,615
be the existing past the class school

5499
03:26:27,421 --> 03:26:29,421
your program

5500
03:26:33,427 --> 03:26:34,428
which is august

5501
03:26:34,428 --> 03:26:35,429
to september next year, providing

5502
03:26:35,429 --> 03:26:36,430
free passes to enrolled students.

5503
03:26:36,430 --> 03:26:38,430
so we

5504
03:26:38,432 --> 03:26:39,433
will be contributing $41,000 so students can

5505
03:26:39,433 --> 03:26:40,400
ride free in june and july. We

5506
03:26:40,400 --> 03:26:44,000
also asked staff because it seems

5507
03:26:44,404 --> 03:26:45,405
a bit cumbersome, but we have asked

5508
03:26:45,405 --> 03:26:47,405
staff to

5509
03:26:48,408 --> 03:26:50,808
see about if we

5510
03:26:51,411 --> 03:26:54,411
could extend that free time

5511
03:26:57,417 --> 03:26:59,417
without enrollment

5512
03:26:59,419 --> 03:27:00,420
because with children being able to write

5513
03:27:00,420 --> 03:27:03,423
for free for june and july, they

5514
03:27:03,423 --> 03:27:05,425
just get on a bus. They

5515
03:27:05,425 --> 03:27:06,426
don't have to enroll. And some of

5516
03:27:06,426 --> 03:27:07,427
the information we got back is that

5517
03:27:07,427 --> 03:27:08,428
the

5518
03:27:08,428 --> 03:27:09,429
parents really appreciate it because

5519
03:27:09,429 --> 03:27:11,431
it kept them out

5520
03:27:11,431 --> 03:27:12,432
of cars. Kept gas bills down. So we

5521
03:27:12,432 --> 03:27:14,432
want to just

5522
03:27:15,402 --> 03:27:17,802
see about --because in

5523
03:27:20,407 --> 03:27:21,408
our measured j21a fund, we've got 4.2 million

5524
03:27:21,408 --> 03:27:24,408
available, so we can easily

5525
03:27:24,411 --> 03:27:26,411
for four months

5526
03:27:26,413 --> 03:27:27,414
have folks write for free, so that

5527
03:27:27,414 --> 03:27:29,414
came out of

5528
03:27:32,419 --> 03:27:33,420
our meeting.

5529
03:27:33,420 --> 03:27:34,421
>> anybody? >> just very quickly, I

5530
03:27:34,421 --> 03:27:36,421
did have

5531
03:27:36,423 --> 03:27:37,424
an opportunity to attend the unveiling

5532
03:27:37,424 --> 03:27:39,424
of the

5533
03:27:39,426 --> 03:27:41,826
latest fairy was introduced

5534
03:27:42,429 --> 03:27:47,229
by our ferry operator, so I would like

5535
03:27:48,402 --> 03:27:49,403
to think jim wonderment and the staff for

5536
03:27:49,403 --> 03:27:51,403
their hospitality.

5537
03:27:51,405 --> 03:27:52,406
they recognize the

5538
03:27:52,406 --> 03:27:54,408
city of martinez at the event so I

5539
03:27:54,408 --> 03:27:56,408
appreciated

5540
03:27:57,411 --> 03:27:59,411
that.

5541
03:27:59,413 --> 03:28:00,414
and, yeah. It was really nice to be able

5542
03:28:00,414 --> 03:28:03,414
to connect with other local

5543
03:28:03,417 --> 03:28:04,418
elected's and see and learn more about

5544
03:28:04,418 --> 03:28:06,418
the

5545
03:28:09,423 --> 03:28:11,423
upcoming technologies

5546
03:28:12,426 --> 03:28:13,427
they helped unveil, so that's it.

5547
03:28:13,427 --> 03:28:14,428
>>

5548
03:28:14,428 --> 03:28:15,429
right. The only thing that's left

5549
03:28:15,429 --> 03:28:16,430
is city council comments. Debbie,

5550
03:28:16,430 --> 03:28:18,430
do you want

5551
03:28:18,432 --> 03:28:19,433
to start?

5552
03:28:19,433 --> 03:28:21,401
>> I just wanted to call

5553
03:28:21,401 --> 03:28:23,801
out that tonight in

5554
03:28:24,404 --> 03:28:26,404
our

5555
03:28:26,406 --> 03:28:27,407
consent calendar, we approved the free

5556
03:28:27,407 --> 03:28:29,407
parking in the

5557
03:28:32,412 --> 03:28:33,413
downtown area. I don't think I was like

5558
03:28:33,413 --> 03:28:34,414
touched on. I don't

5559
03:28:34,414 --> 03:28:36,416
know if we actually said anything

5560
03:28:36,416 --> 03:28:40,420
about that, but that goes into effect

5561
03:28:40,420 --> 03:28:42,820
november 27th through january

5562
03:28:43,423 --> 03:28:45,423
5th, so,

5563
03:28:47,427 --> 03:28:49,429
unfortunately, it's just after the

5564
03:28:49,429 --> 03:28:50,430
21st, when we are going

5565
03:28:50,430 --> 03:28:51,431
to do the tree lighting, so the tree

5566
03:28:51,431 --> 03:28:52,432
lighting is before the free parking,

5567
03:28:52,432 --> 03:28:54,401
but,

5568
03:28:54,401 --> 03:28:55,402
I don't know. Maybe we should meet

5569
03:28:55,402 --> 03:28:56,403
at the november 21st.

5570
03:28:56,403 --> 03:28:58,405
anyway, so just want to let people

5571
03:28:58,405 --> 03:28:59,406
know they can go down there and

5572
03:28:59,406 --> 03:29:01,408
park for free and that could hopefully

5573
03:29:01,408 --> 03:29:03,408
encourage them

5574
03:29:07,414 --> 03:29:09,414
-- shopping

5575
03:29:09,416 --> 03:29:11,418
experiences down there. Looking forward to that.

5576
03:29:11,418 --> 03:29:13,420
I'll be at the tree lighting with

5577
03:29:13,420 --> 03:29:14,421
some of my colleagues and I know it's

5578
03:29:14,421 --> 03:29:15,422
a little bit earlier than normal,

5579
03:29:15,422 --> 03:29:17,424
but we are starting the holiday season

5580
03:29:17,424 --> 03:29:18,425
a little early this year. More time

5581
03:29:18,425 --> 03:29:19,426
for shopping. I don't have anything

5582
03:29:19,426 --> 03:29:21,426
else

5583
03:29:25,432 --> 03:29:27,432
to add.

5584
03:29:29,403 --> 03:29:30,404
>> you have anything? >> thank you.

5585
03:29:30,404 --> 03:29:32,406
thank you very much. I too look forward

5586
03:29:32,406 --> 03:29:33,407
to joining everyone at the upcoming

5587
03:29:33,407 --> 03:29:34,408
tree lighting and holiday frolic.

5588
03:29:34,408 --> 03:29:35,409
I want to just call

5589
03:29:35,409 --> 03:29:37,411
out that we have a couple of tree

5590
03:29:37,411 --> 03:29:39,411
plantings that are

5591
03:29:42,416 --> 03:29:43,417
coming up. This saturday at hidden

5592
03:29:43,417 --> 03:29:44,418
valley

5593
03:29:44,418 --> 03:29:46,420
park, november 22nd. 9:00 a.m. In

5594
03:29:46,420 --> 03:29:48,420
collaboration I

5595
03:29:49,423 --> 03:29:52,423
believe with the school. Is

5596
03:29:55,429 --> 03:29:57,429
that correct?

5597
03:29:58,432 --> 03:29:59,433
mpg and e. That will be

5598
03:29:59,433 --> 03:30:01,401
taking place and then we go over to

5599
03:30:01,401 --> 03:30:03,801
pine meadow park on

5600
03:30:04,404 --> 03:30:06,804
december 6th, so both

5601
03:30:07,407 --> 03:30:09,407
coincidentally in district 3,

5602
03:30:10,410 --> 03:30:11,411
so.

5603
03:30:11,411 --> 03:30:13,411
>>

5604
03:30:22,422 --> 03:30:23,423
you are always doing something

5605
03:30:23,423 --> 03:30:24,424
in district 3.

5606
03:30:24,424 --> 03:30:25,425
>> getting some trees

5607
03:30:25,425 --> 03:30:26,426
planted. So come one, come on. I'd

5608
03:30:26,426 --> 03:30:27,427
like

5609
03:30:27,427 --> 03:30:28,428
to thank staff for the excellent job

5610
03:30:28,428 --> 03:30:29,429
that was done with the fishing pier

5611
03:30:29,429 --> 03:30:30,430
which

5612
03:30:30,430 --> 03:30:31,431
was talked about earlier, but also

5613
03:30:31,431 --> 03:30:32,432
the veterans day events. It took a

5614
03:30:32,432 --> 03:30:33,400
lot

5615
03:30:33,400 --> 03:30:34,401
of coordination. It has really great

5616
03:30:34,401 --> 03:30:35,402
turnouts for both and I know there's

5617
03:30:35,402 --> 03:30:36,403
a

5618
03:30:36,403 --> 03:30:37,404
lot of work that goes in behind the

5619
03:30:37,404 --> 03:30:40,404
scenes. That doesn't happen by

5620
03:30:40,407 --> 03:30:42,407
accident, so my

5621
03:30:43,410 --> 03:30:44,411
hats off to

5622
03:30:44,411 --> 03:30:46,413
public works, parks and rec, and everyone.

5623
03:30:46,413 --> 03:30:47,414
it was a team effort. So job well

5624
03:30:47,414 --> 03:30:48,415
done,

5625
03:30:48,415 --> 03:30:49,416
team. Thank you very much. Appreciate

5626
03:30:49,416 --> 03:30:50,417
that. I did want to just very quickly

5627
03:30:50,417 --> 03:30:52,417
follow

5628
03:30:52,419 --> 03:30:53,420
up on the earlier item

5629
03:30:53,420 --> 03:30:54,421
regarding caltrans that came up. I

5630
03:30:54,421 --> 03:30:55,422
too have heard similar concerns and

5631
03:30:55,422 --> 03:30:57,422
you know

5632
03:30:57,424 --> 03:30:58,425
think it speaks to a broader issue

5633
03:30:58,425 --> 03:31:00,425
where it's

5634
03:31:00,427 --> 03:31:02,429
not just the lack of timely response

5635
03:31:02,429 --> 03:31:04,431
on the striping and what have you,

5636
03:31:04,431 --> 03:31:07,401
but, that stretch of highway

5637
03:31:07,401 --> 03:31:09,401
4,

5638
03:31:09,403 --> 03:31:10,404
folks, between hercules in martinez,

5639
03:31:10,404 --> 03:31:13,407
it's a dump, and it is

5640
03:31:13,407 --> 03:31:15,407
frustrating. Every

5641
03:31:16,410 --> 03:31:18,410
time I

5642
03:31:19,413 --> 03:31:20,414
am

5643
03:31:20,414 --> 03:31:22,416
driving by there, that's like the

5644
03:31:22,416 --> 03:31:23,417
gateway to our city. I'm like, why

5645
03:31:23,417 --> 03:31:24,418
aren't

5646
03:31:24,418 --> 03:31:25,419
they picking this up? How often are

5647
03:31:25,419 --> 03:31:26,420
they sending crews? Highway 24 don't

5648
03:31:26,420 --> 03:31:28,420
look like

5649
03:31:28,422 --> 03:31:30,822
that. It's like, can

5650
03:31:31,425 --> 03:31:33,425
we --

5651
03:31:34,428 --> 03:31:35,429
I

5652
03:31:35,429 --> 03:31:37,431
think there's an opportunity here

5653
03:31:37,431 --> 03:31:38,432
to really engage them and if we need

5654
03:31:38,432 --> 03:31:39,433
to engage our state representatives

5655
03:31:39,433 --> 03:31:40,400
in this conversation, but caltrans

5656
03:31:40,400 --> 03:31:41,401
really needs to step up their

5657
03:31:41,401 --> 03:31:45,405
game. I just feel that more could

5658
03:31:45,405 --> 03:31:46,406
be done. We have a real safety issue

5659
03:31:46,406 --> 03:31:48,408
quite frankly but it's

5660
03:31:48,408 --> 03:31:49,409
also we've spent a lot of time on

5661
03:31:49,409 --> 03:31:50,410
beautification of

5662
03:31:50,410 --> 03:31:52,412
our city. What about beautification

5663
03:31:52,412 --> 03:31:56,120
of the entryway into our city?

5664
03:31:58,418 --> 03:31:59,419
highway 4. So maybe this is something

5665
03:31:59,419 --> 03:32:00,420
we could work collaboratively with

5666
03:32:00,420 --> 03:32:01,421
our counterparts in hercules and see

5667
03:32:01,421 --> 03:32:02,422
if maybe we

5668
03:32:02,422 --> 03:32:04,424
can collectively lean on caltrans

5669
03:32:04,424 --> 03:32:06,424
to

5670
03:32:10,430 --> 03:32:12,430
step up.

5671
03:32:22,409 --> 03:32:23,410
the striping and -- that's

5672
03:32:23,410 --> 03:32:25,412
got to be a priority and the fact -- the

5673
03:32:25,412 --> 03:32:27,414
lack of lighting as well is a

5674
03:32:27,414 --> 03:32:28,415
contributing factor, as well, I have to

5675
03:32:28,415 --> 03:32:29,416
say. It's really dark on highway 4

5676
03:32:29,416 --> 03:32:31,418
at certain points, so you combine

5677
03:32:31,418 --> 03:32:32,419
that with the lack of striping and

5678
03:32:32,419 --> 03:32:33,420
it's a

5679
03:32:33,420 --> 03:32:34,421
real safety issue. So we need to get

5680
03:32:34,421 --> 03:32:35,422
that done. Happy to connect off-line

5681
03:32:35,422 --> 03:32:36,423
in

5682
03:32:36,423 --> 03:32:37,424
terms of how best we can advocate

5683
03:32:37,424 --> 03:32:39,426
on that. The last thing I wanted

5684
03:32:39,426 --> 03:32:40,427
to say --I just wanted to extend my

5685
03:32:40,427 --> 03:32:41,428
heartfelt condolences to the family

5686
03:32:41,428 --> 03:32:43,430
of gwen moore, a longtime munro --

5687
03:32:43,430 --> 03:32:45,430
pardon me. Excuse

5688
03:32:45,432 --> 03:32:46,433
me. Munro. A longtime downtown business

5689
03:32:46,433 --> 03:32:48,433
owner. So I

5690
03:32:52,406 --> 03:32:54,406
was just

5691
03:32:54,408 --> 03:32:55,409
very saddened, like many in our community,

5692
03:32:55,409 --> 03:32:57,411
to learn of her

5693
03:32:57,411 --> 03:32:58,412
passing but just wanted to offer my

5694
03:32:58,412 --> 03:33:00,812
heartfelt condolences to her

5695
03:33:01,415 --> 03:33:02,416
mother, donna, and to all who knew

5696
03:33:02,416 --> 03:33:04,416
and

5697
03:33:04,418 --> 03:33:06,418
loved her, so,

5698
03:33:07,421 --> 03:33:09,421
thank you.

5699
03:33:22,402 --> 03:33:24,404
>> so, for my update,

5700
03:33:24,404 --> 03:33:25,405
just so you know, after you made the

5701
03:33:25,405 --> 03:33:26,406
comment about the striping, I sent

5702
03:33:26,406 --> 03:33:27,407
an email to

5703
03:33:27,407 --> 03:33:28,408
caltrans to our contact and I've seen

5704
03:33:28,408 --> 03:33:29,409
a handful of staff, so

5705
03:33:29,409 --> 03:33:31,411
he is the person who would respond

5706
03:33:31,411 --> 03:33:32,412
to us and I think we can take advantage

5707
03:33:32,412 --> 03:33:33,413
of

5708
03:33:33,413 --> 03:33:34,414
that relationship, and request additional

5709
03:33:34,414 --> 03:33:35,415
things, so, that's that update. So,

5710
03:33:35,415 --> 03:33:36,416
for me, today, I

5711
03:33:36,416 --> 03:33:37,417
got a chance to go to --high school

5712
03:33:37,417 --> 03:33:39,419
to their leadership exchange. We

5713
03:33:39,419 --> 03:33:43,190
had kids in the leadership program

5714
03:33:46,426 --> 03:33:48,426
from seventh

5715
03:33:57,404 --> 03:33:58,405
--2nd to 5th grade. There was a lot of

5716
03:33:58,405 --> 03:34:00,405
local folks and

5717
03:34:00,407 --> 03:34:01,408
the kids got to ask us questions and

5718
03:34:01,408 --> 03:34:03,410
I really enjoyed it, so kudos to

5719
03:34:03,410 --> 03:34:04,411
luciana who is a freshman who coordinated

5720
03:34:04,411 --> 03:34:06,413
all of that. There were about 50 kids

5721
03:34:06,413 --> 03:34:08,415
there. We talked about the tree lighting that I'm able

5722
03:34:08,415 --> 03:34:09,416
to join --so I'm

5723
03:34:09,416 --> 03:34:10,417
glad that you all will be covering

5724
03:34:10,417 --> 03:34:12,419
it. A reminder that the downtown cleanup

5725
03:34:12,419 --> 03:34:14,421
is on saturday the 22nd, and that

5726
03:34:14,421 --> 03:34:15,422
is the last cleanup

5727
03:34:15,422 --> 03:34:17,424
of the year, and that is really to help

5728
03:34:17,424 --> 03:34:18,425
kick off the

5729
03:34:18,425 --> 03:34:20,427
holiday season, you know, spruce up

5730
03:34:20,427 --> 03:34:21,428
our

5731
03:34:21,428 --> 03:34:22,429
downtown for shopping. Happy thanks giving to everybody. I

5732
03:34:22,429 --> 03:34:23,430
will be out of town with extended family

5733
03:34:23,430 --> 03:34:24,431
for the thanksgiving week, so

5734
03:34:24,431 --> 03:34:25,432
thanks to everybody who is covering

5735
03:34:25,432 --> 03:34:26,433
all of the events that are happening.

5736
03:34:26,433 --> 03:34:28,433
the

5737
03:34:32,406 --> 03:34:34,406
hospice tree

5738
03:34:34,408 --> 03:34:36,410
fell a couple of weeks ago so I just wanted

5739
03:34:36,410 --> 03:34:37,411
to remind everybody that the ceremony

5740
03:34:37,411 --> 03:34:38,412
will not be held here in martinez

5741
03:34:38,412 --> 03:34:39,413
on

5742
03:34:39,413 --> 03:34:40,414
december 2nd. They are taking all

5743
03:34:40,414 --> 03:34:41,415
the pleasant hill people and all the

5744
03:34:41,415 --> 03:34:42,416
martinez people

5745
03:34:42,416 --> 03:34:44,418
and going to the concord hospice tree.

5746
03:34:44,418 --> 03:34:47,421
I did into the --with the

5747
03:34:47,421 --> 03:34:49,421
director of hospice

5748
03:34:50,424 --> 03:34:52,424
east bay

5749
03:35:05,405 --> 03:35:06,406
a

5750
03:35:06,406 --> 03:35:07,407
couple of days ago to talk about with

5751
03:35:07,407 --> 03:35:08,408
an entry might look like. Other cities

5752
03:35:08,408 --> 03:35:10,410
aren't finding new trees. They're

5753
03:35:10,410 --> 03:35:11,411
finding new trees to make the hospice

5754
03:35:11,411 --> 03:35:12,412
tree out of so

5755
03:35:12,412 --> 03:35:14,414
I wanted to pass that on to all of

5756
03:35:14,414 --> 03:35:15,415
you because she had even

5757
03:35:15,415 --> 03:35:16,416
acknowledged that our hospice treat

5758
03:35:16,416 --> 03:35:17,417
was in a really weird place. The fact

5759
03:35:17,417 --> 03:35:18,418
that it

5760
03:35:18,418 --> 03:35:20,420
was in the middle of the road someone

5761
03:35:20,420 --> 03:35:21,421
we had events, we had to

5762
03:35:21,421 --> 03:35:23,423
close the road down together. So if

5763
03:35:23,423 --> 03:35:24,424
we can find a beautiful old tree, that's

5764
03:35:24,424 --> 03:35:25,425
in a park or something, that would

5765
03:35:25,425 --> 03:35:26,426
be much more conducive to what they

5766
03:35:26,426 --> 03:35:27,427
are

5767
03:35:27,427 --> 03:35:29,429
looking for, and it would be consistent

5768
03:35:29,429 --> 03:35:30,430
with other cities so if anybody has

5769
03:35:30,430 --> 03:35:31,431
any ideas, I was thinking can part

5770
03:35:31,431 --> 03:35:32,432
might be an interesting location.

5771
03:35:32,432 --> 03:35:33,433
golden hills park

5772
03:35:33,433 --> 03:35:35,402
would be great. There are a lot of

5773
03:35:35,402 --> 03:35:37,404
old trees there, too. Let me know

5774
03:35:37,404 --> 03:35:38,405
if you have any ideas and I know that

5775
03:35:38,405 --> 03:35:40,407
mike had been in touch

5776
03:35:40,407 --> 03:35:41,408
with them, as well, but I don't think

5777
03:35:41,408 --> 03:35:42,409
we have made any decisions,

5778
03:35:42,409 --> 03:35:43,410
right? Okay.

5779
03:35:43,410 --> 03:35:44,411
>> the light of the boat

5780
03:35:44,411 --> 03:35:45,412
parade.

5781
03:35:45,412 --> 03:35:46,413
>> there are fires

5782
03:35:46,413 --> 03:35:47,414
around. And that would be --if anyone

5783
03:35:47,414 --> 03:35:49,414
would like

5784
03:35:50,417 --> 03:35:51,418
to participate,,

5785
03:35:51,418 --> 03:35:53,420
that and just enjoy the new fishing

5786
03:35:53,420 --> 03:35:55,422
pier at night. That is half the goal

5787
03:35:55,422 --> 03:35:56,423
and there will be music and refreshments

5788
03:35:56,423 --> 03:35:58,425
and a variety of things. It

5789
03:35:58,425 --> 03:35:59,426
should be a lot of fun. And then, are you

5790
03:35:59,426 --> 03:36:01,426
going to

5791
03:36:04,431 --> 03:36:05,432
bring up the -- I'll talk about it.

5792
03:36:05,432 --> 03:36:06,433
yeah. So last

5793
03:36:06,433 --> 03:36:08,402
week or the last time, remember, I

5794
03:36:08,402 --> 03:36:11,402
sat in on the board

5795
03:36:12,406 --> 03:36:14,408
of supervisors meeting about covering

5796
03:36:14,408 --> 03:36:16,408
snap benefits.

5797
03:36:17,411 --> 03:36:18,412
step benefits have theoretically been

5798
03:36:18,412 --> 03:36:20,412
funded,

5799
03:36:20,414 --> 03:36:22,414
but food insecurity

5800
03:36:22,416 --> 03:36:23,417
is really even more of an issue this

5801
03:36:23,417 --> 03:36:25,417
year than it

5802
03:36:26,420 --> 03:36:27,421
has been in years past. And so,

5803
03:36:27,421 --> 03:36:29,423
I've been speaking with loaves and

5804
03:36:29,423 --> 03:36:31,423
fishes and

5805
03:36:31,425 --> 03:36:32,426
with jay about the potential for city

5806
03:36:32,426 --> 03:36:34,426
council to

5807
03:36:34,428 --> 03:36:35,429
help contribute toward a protein fund

5808
03:36:35,429 --> 03:36:37,429
for

5809
03:36:41,401 --> 03:36:42,402
the holidays. Turkey,

5810
03:36:42,402 --> 03:36:44,404
chicken, ham, tofu, whatever you might want

5811
03:36:44,404 --> 03:36:46,804
to have for the

5812
03:36:50,410 --> 03:36:51,411
holidays. So

5813
03:36:51,411 --> 03:36:52,412
city council actually has a little

5814
03:36:52,412 --> 03:36:53,413
bit of money in our discretionary

5815
03:36:53,413 --> 03:36:54,414
fund that

5816
03:36:54,414 --> 03:36:56,416
has been unspent so I wanted to propose

5817
03:36:56,416 --> 03:36:58,418
this as an option to donate a

5818
03:36:58,418 --> 03:36:59,419
little extra to our contra costa food

5819
03:36:59,419 --> 03:37:01,419
bank on behalf

5820
03:37:02,422 --> 03:37:03,423
of the city.

5821
03:37:03,423 --> 03:37:04,424
>> yes. >> I second

5822
03:37:04,424 --> 03:37:05,425
that motion.

5823
03:37:05,425 --> 03:37:06,426
>> are you comfortable

5824
03:37:06,426 --> 03:37:08,426
with that,

5825
03:37:10,430 --> 03:37:11,431
as well?

5826
03:37:11,431 --> 03:37:12,432
>> is that --is that intended to

5827
03:37:12,432 --> 03:37:14,832
be direction to the

5828
03:37:17,404 --> 03:37:19,404
city --

5829
03:37:19,406 --> 03:37:20,407
>> yes. >> it's because you are directing

5830
03:37:20,407 --> 03:37:23,410
money to be spent --you can

5831
03:37:23,410 --> 03:37:27,100
direct him to bring it back

5832
03:37:29,416 --> 03:37:30,417
--

5833
03:37:30,417 --> 03:37:32,417
>>

5834
03:37:35,422 --> 03:37:36,423
exactly. I wanted to make

5835
03:37:36,423 --> 03:37:38,425
sure everyone was okay with it. I

5836
03:37:38,425 --> 03:37:39,426
would like to direct mike to bring

5837
03:37:39,426 --> 03:37:40,427
back

5838
03:37:40,427 --> 03:37:41,428
to us at a future --thank you for

5839
03:37:41,428 --> 03:37:43,430
clarifying. I was getting fair --

5840
03:37:43,430 --> 03:37:44,431
to come back to us. Ideally, it would

5841
03:37:44,431 --> 03:37:45,432
be 2000 that we can split

5842
03:37:45,432 --> 03:37:46,433
1002 each organization, so if you

5843
03:37:46,433 --> 03:37:47,401
can double check to make sure that

5844
03:37:47,401 --> 03:37:48,402
the numbers

5845
03:37:48,402 --> 03:37:50,404
are correct from what's left of the

5846
03:37:50,404 --> 03:37:52,406
budget and then if you can bring it

5847
03:37:52,406 --> 03:37:53,407
back at our next agenda, that would

5848
03:37:53,407 --> 03:37:54,408
be great. Thank you.

5849
03:37:54,408 --> 03:37:55,409
>>

5850
03:37:55,409 --> 03:37:56,410
we don't meet again until december

5851
03:37:56,410 --> 03:37:58,410
10th, so I

5852
03:37:59,413 --> 03:38:00,414
know that

5853
03:38:00,414 --> 03:38:02,416
probably --I'm sure there will still

5854
03:38:02,416 --> 03:38:04,418
be a need through the holiday but

5855
03:38:04,418 --> 03:38:05,419
it's a little ways out.

5856
03:38:05,419 --> 03:38:06,420
>> thank you

5857
03:38:06,420 --> 03:38:07,421
for the reminder on that. We can

5858
03:38:07,421 --> 03:38:08,422
coordinate.

5859
03:38:08,422 --> 03:38:09,423
>> and I intended to close

5860
03:38:09,423 --> 03:38:11,425
the meeting in honor of gwen

5861
03:38:11,425 --> 03:38:12,426
this evening.

5862
03:38:12,426 --> 03:38:14,428
thank you for bringing [ inaudible

5863
03:38:14,428 --> 03:38:15,429
]

5864
03:38:15,429 --> 03:38:16,430
>> just do something that's been on

5865
03:38:16,430 --> 03:38:17,431
my mind

5866
03:38:17,431 --> 03:38:19,433
--the day job --and

5867
03:38:19,433 --> 03:38:20,434
we are in the holiday season. Adjust

5868
03:38:20,434 --> 03:38:22,434
the number

5869
03:38:23,403 --> 03:38:25,803
of scams and a

5870
03:38:26,406 --> 03:38:29,406
deep fakes. There is so

5871
03:38:32,412 --> 03:38:34,414
much activity going on in this space

5872
03:38:34,414 --> 03:38:35,415
right now, so the message is, for

5873
03:38:35,415 --> 03:38:38,415
friends, for family, elderly, just

5874
03:38:38,418 --> 03:38:40,418
be careful

5875
03:38:41,421 --> 03:38:43,421
online shopping. Providing

5876
03:38:47,427 --> 03:38:49,427
any information,

5877
03:38:50,430 --> 03:38:51,431
because it is a

5878
03:38:51,431 --> 03:38:53,433
huge, huge issue, and on a daily basis,

5879
03:38:53,433 --> 03:38:56,403
we are getting information on folks

5880
03:38:56,403 --> 03:38:59,403
who have been scammed. Through

5881
03:38:59,406 --> 03:39:03,600
a.I. And social media, so

5882
03:39:05,412 --> 03:39:06,413
just those in this season just for

5883
03:39:06,413 --> 03:39:07,414
folks to just be careful. Just

5884
03:39:07,414 --> 03:39:08,415
be careful, and wishing everybody

5885
03:39:08,415 --> 03:39:10,415
a happy, restful,

5886
03:39:12,419 --> 03:39:13,420
prosperous thanksgiving.

5887
03:39:13,420 --> 03:39:14,421
>> the mayor

5888
03:39:14,421 --> 03:39:15,422
pretty

5889
03:39:15,422 --> 03:39:17,424
much covered all of my talking points,

5890
03:39:17,424 --> 03:39:19,424
which

5891
03:39:23,430 --> 03:39:25,430
is great.

5892
03:39:29,403 --> 03:39:30,404
and I can't

5893
03:39:30,404 --> 03:39:32,406
wait for the tree lighting and cleanup

5894
03:39:32,406 --> 03:39:33,407
and I want to wish everybody a happy

5895
03:39:33,407 --> 03:39:34,408
thanksgiving.

5896
03:39:34,408 --> 03:39:35,409
>> great. Excellent. Well, in that

5897
03:39:35,409 --> 03:39:36,410
case, I would like to adjourn this

5898
03:39:36,410 --> 03:39:37,411
meeting in

5899
03:39:37,411 --> 03:39:38,412
memory of glenn and all that she contributed

5900
03:39:38,412 --> 03:39:40,414
to the martinez community in the downtown

5901
03:39:40,414 --> 03:39:41,415
community and all the activities she

5902
03:39:41,415 --> 03:39:43,415
did at

5903
03:39:44,418 --> 03:39:45,419
first friday for children in transit.

5904
03:39:45,419 --> 03:39:47,419
this meeting is

5905
03:39:47,421 --> 03:39:48,422
now adjourned to our regular scheduled

5906
03:39:48,422 --> 03:39:50,422
meeting on december

5907
03:39:50,424 --> 03:39:52,424
10th.