[1:22] >>>
[1:24] of the martinez city council, wednesday, november
[1:25] 19
[1:28] 7:is 7 p.m.
[1:31] city clerk please call the roll.
[1:34] >>
[1:40] [ roll call ]
[1:43] >> wonderful, please join me
[1:46] for the pledge of allegiance.
[1:48] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag
[1:50] of the united states of america and
[1:52] to the republic for which
[1:55] it stands, one nation
[1:57] under god, indivisible with liberty
[1:58] and justice
[2:01] for all.
[2:02] >>
[2:06] all right, to start up the meeting we
[2:07] have a couple
[2:08] of presentations and so I'm going
[2:10] to ask the council to come down and
[2:13] we will present from down there.
[2:34] >>
[2:37] okay, thank you.
[2:43] please, come on up.
[2:45] all right, good evening everyone.
[2:49] so I have the
[2:50] honor and we will go ahead and invite
[2:52] the whole community, those of you
[2:54] here for the sikh awareness and appreciation
[2:55] month
[2:57] if I can invite you all to come up
[2:58] and join
[3:00] the council, thank you very much.
[3:04] all right, so
[3:05] sikh awareness and appreciation month
[3:07] whereas
[3:09] sikh is the 5th largest religion with
[3:10] 25 million
[3:13] followers worldwide and more than
[3:14] 500,000 in the united states many
[3:16] of whom have called california home
[3:19] since the late 1800s whereas sikh
[3:20] americans
[3:21] have contributed significantly to
[3:22] the
[3:25] nations growth to their work
[3:26] in agriculture, business, education, technology
[3:28] and public service including
[3:31] the city of martinez where
[3:33] councilmember malhi became the city's
[3:34] 1st sikh
[3:40] american council member whereas the
[3:41] values of equality, service
[3:42] and justice are reflected through
[3:43] acts
[3:44] of community service including providing
[3:46] free meals,
[3:49] aiding seniors
[3:51] and supporting local relief efforts
[3:52] whereas despite
[3:53] facing discrimination and hate crimes
[3:55] sikh americans continue to demonstrate
[3:56] resilience,
[3:58] compassion and eternal optimism
[4:01] in opposing the dignity of
[4:04] all people.
[4:05] whereas the city of martinez honors
[4:07] and celebrates the many ways sikh
[4:08] americans
[4:09] strengthen communities and enrich
[4:10] the social and cultural
[4:12] fabric of our city and our nation.
[4:15] now therefore be it resolved that
[4:19] mayor zorn and
[4:21] city council on behalf of our entire
[4:22] council I should
[4:25] say do hereby proclaim november 2025 as
[4:28] sikh awareness and appreciation month
[4:29] in
[4:31] the city of martinez.
[4:40] and so, very quickly I
[4:42] have up here many local residents
[4:46] in martinez including business owners including
[4:49] daisy and
[4:52] , the owners of the subway and we
[4:53] have the
[4:55] owners of the marina minimart
[4:58] and pacheco truck stop
[5:00] and we have some other local residents
[5:01] here as well and
[5:04] I want to say thank you, we are so
[5:05] proud you
[5:07] have chosen to call martin is
[5:09] your home . We have a representative
[5:10] of the local
[5:13] house of worship
[5:16] where many of
[5:19] our local sikh go to worship. Did
[5:20] you
[5:22] want to say anything?
[5:25] okay. All right, very good. With that
[5:27] thank you all very much and very quickly,
[5:31] my mom is here in
[5:33] the audience and she made some traditional
[5:34] tea, so if you would
[5:37] like to have some , there was
[5:39] some in the corner along with some
[5:40] sweets. And
[5:43] a qr code where you can learn a little
[5:44] bit more
[5:45] about our faith, culture and history
[5:46] so if that is of
[5:49] interest I
[5:51] encourage you to partake in that as
[5:52] well, thank you very much. We will
[5:55] go ahead and get a couple of photos.
[8:32] >>
[8:33] good evening mayor and members of
[8:35] the council and members of the public
[8:38] for those who don't know me
[8:41] my name is andrew white chief of police
[8:42] for
[8:43] the city of martinez, tonight we are
[8:44] swearing in our 3 newest sergeants
[8:45] at
[8:46] this time I would like to call forward
[8:47] sgt. Mayberry,
[8:50] [ applause ]
[9:05] sgt.
[9:08] carney, scott
[9:11] carney.
[9:17] sgt.
[9:35] so, before we get started with
[9:36] their portion I wanted to recognize
[9:38] a few people 1st of all current serving
[9:39] officers
[9:40] that are here if you're not standing,
[9:41] stand up so we can recognize your
[9:44] service to our community.
[9:47] thank you. Some are still shy.
[9:55] secondly I want to recognize we have
[9:56] numerous retirees
[9:58] that have joined us, including 2 prior chiefs.
[10:02] thank you for joining us.
[10:14] I just want to point out in
[10:17] law enforcement
[10:20] particularly serving in
[10:21] the city of martinez service extends beyond
[10:23] any one of us
[10:24] it is about the connection to the
[10:25] community and connection to the profession
[10:26] and I was incredibly
[10:28] delighted to see all the retirees
[10:29] that have shown up to support
[10:31] this legacy. We have one individual
[10:35] sgt. Mayberry
[10:36] who essentially grew up through the
[10:38] department and it is nice to see people
[10:41] coming back and supporting, I
[10:43] want to stand here to say how much we
[10:44] appreciate all of your service
[10:46] and we never forget what you have
[10:47] done for the city
[10:49] and we will do everything to continue
[10:50] to take care of
[10:51] you, we are delighted to have one
[10:53] retired k-9 dog that's
[10:56] hiding in the corner.
[11:02] all right, without further ado if we can
[11:05] call forward folks that are going to be
[11:08] pinning the badge
[11:11] so for sgt. Mayberry, his daughter charlotte
[11:14] , come forward please.
[11:20] 1st sgt.
[11:23] king , his
[11:26] sister, marissa.
[11:32] and I will be pinning sgt. Carney's
[11:35] badge.
[12:33] >> at this
[12:34] time I would like to call forward
[12:37] our city clerk who will administer
[12:39] the oath of office and while
[12:42] she is preparing
[12:43] a want to recognize in the police department
[12:45] obviously police
[12:46] on the streets are delivering service
[12:48] that the community needs
[12:51] and keeps them safe
[12:53] but next to that work being done some
[12:54] of the most
[12:55] important people in the department
[12:57] in leadership
[12:59] by the front-line supervisors 24 hours
[13:00] a day
[13:01] providing support , leadership and
[13:03] guidance in the mentorship
[13:04] for officers coming into the agency
[13:15] .
[13:17] it takes a lot to go through the testing process.
[13:18] preparing yourselves to do it
[13:19] and these 3 individuals have done
[13:20] everything they need to do to earn
[13:21] this position.
[13:22] and the coming months the coming years
[13:23] will demonstrate that through their
[13:24] hard work. I
[13:25] appreciate you stepping up to do this
[13:27] and behind them we have
[13:30] 2 more sergeants promoted
[13:32] so it is a big deal for martinez police
[13:33] and maybe the most
[13:34] sergeants promoted in a short period
[13:36] of time.
[13:38] without further ado I will turn it
[13:39] over to the city
[13:40] clerk to minister the oath of office.
[13:42] >> thank
[13:43] you chief, good evening everyone.
[13:45] sergeants please raise
[13:48] your right hand and repeat
[13:51] after me. I, state your name
[13:54] to solemnly affirm
[13:57] that I will support and defend
[14:00] the constitution of the
[14:03] united states
[14:05] and the constitution of the state
[14:09] of california.
[14:11] against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
[14:15] that I will bear
[14:17] true faith. And allegiance to the same.
[14:21] that I
[14:24] take this obligation freely .
[14:27] without any mental reservation.
[14:30] or
[14:33] purpose of evasion. And I will
[14:36] well and faithfully discharge
[14:39] the duties
[14:41] of the office I am about to enter.
[14:45] that is it, congratulations.
[14:51] [ applause ]
[17:06] >>
[17:09] at this time all
[17:12] pd staff that have come you are free to
[17:14] go next door, for the dinner and to
[17:15] the rest of
[17:18] the community, thank you for your
[17:19] support we
[17:20] could not do the job without your
[17:21] support cheering these guys on that
[17:22] was a
[17:24] good cheering section, thank you.
[18:42] >> next up is the chamber of commerce,
[18:46] if you would like to
[18:49] come up.
[19:40] >>
[19:43] thank you, all right.
[19:46] hello everyone,
[19:48] I am the president of the chamber
[19:49] of
[19:51] commerce and tonight we are celebrating
[19:55] a special business of the month and
[19:58] I am honored to do this one in
[19:59] the business community we talk about,
[20:01] 1st of all sorry
[20:04] let me back up I want to thank
[20:06] the mayor and city council for having
[20:07] us tonight, thank
[20:10] you everyone and city staff and my
[20:11] chamber
[20:12] staff for being here. In the business community
[20:13] we
[20:16] talk about the successes
[20:19] of businesses and a special success
[20:22] is when a business is able to start and
[20:25] and last for a really long time and
[20:27] then move on without the business
[20:31] closing, have the business change hands
[20:34] and that is a
[20:35] huge tremendous success story when
[20:37] a small business can do that and the
[20:38] california
[20:40] magic club is a great example of that situation.
[20:43] jerry griffin started the
[20:46] magic theater many years ago.
[20:47] has been a fixture of martinez 21
[20:49] years and announced
[20:52] his retirement last month. And
[20:55] now taking the home he
[20:56] has bought the business and is carrying
[20:58] on the magic
[21:00] and we could not be more thrilled
[21:01] for knowing that jerry
[21:04] is able to lead
[21:07] , lead to the next phase of
[21:10] his dream and that john is
[21:12] going to be able to carry on his dream
[21:13] as well within
[21:16] the business. So I want to thank and
[21:17] honor both
[21:19] jerry and john as business
[21:21] of the month for chamber of commerce and
[21:25] to wish you both well, great success and
[21:26] to
[21:27] applaud you for what you are doing
[21:28] in the community
[21:31] right now. Before
[21:33] I turn it over we have a presentation,
[21:34] we will go with
[21:37] angela from senator grayson's office
[21:40] and then also making
[21:43] a presentation .
[21:44] >>
[21:46] thank you hello again
[21:48] my name is angela from the office
[21:49] of senator tim grayson, honored
[21:54] to be here to present certificate
[21:55] of recognition
[21:57] to the california magic club. I want
[21:58] to join with others recognizing the
[22:01] california magic club
[22:03] as the martinez business of the month,
[22:04] dedication to excellence and valued
[22:05] contribution in which the quality
[22:07] and strength of the community.
[22:10] on behalf of the 9 senate district
[22:11] congratulations.
[22:16] >>
[22:19] once again my name is ,
[22:21] and representing the assemblywoman
[22:25] district 15
[22:27] and on behalf of the california state legislature
[22:31] I would like to recognize california
[22:33] magic club. Proud to recognize california
[22:34] magic club
[22:36] as business of the month november
[22:37] 2025,
[22:40] this entertainment
[22:41] and dining establishment has enriched
[22:42] the community by blending exceptional
[22:43] hospitality with
[22:46] timeless artistry of live magic
[22:49] for its welcoming atmosphere, support
[22:51] for talent and dedication to offering memorable
[22:55] experiences, this
[22:57] reflect the dedicated service and
[22:58] meaningful role that you play in enriching
[23:01] the community. Congratulations
[23:04] on this milestone.
[23:13] >>
[23:16] I would also like to recognize you,
[23:19] mr. Jerry. Proud to celebrate the
[23:20] milestone of
[23:22] your retirement marking the culmination
[23:23] of
[23:25] more than 20 years of dedicated service
[23:26] to the california
[23:28] magic club
[23:31] and martinez community. Throughout
[23:32] your remarkable
[23:33] tenure artistry and commitment has
[23:35] made you a beloved figure
[23:38] in the
[23:39] martinez business district. I extend
[23:40] my heartfelt appreciation for outstanding
[23:41] contributions and wish
[23:43] you great fulfillment and joy in the years ahead.
[23:53] >> I will turn it over to say
[23:55] a few words.
[23:56] >> I will keep it short
[23:58] I am a person of few words. Thank
[24:00] you very very much for this. I am
[24:02] very humbled and grateful
[24:05] for this acknowledgment.
[24:08] as I looked around the
[24:09] room the 1st person I saw when I came
[24:11] in was joe sitting
[24:12] over there. That gentleman was here
[24:14] in town 21
[24:16] years ago when we 1st got started
[24:17] he would come in
[24:19] and have lunch when we were serving
[24:20] lunch but for
[24:21] anyone in business for themselves
[24:23] they know it's a lot of hard
[24:26] work, sweat and a few
[24:28] tears when you get started. I am very grateful
[24:29] we have been
[24:32] here as long as we have and it
[24:33] is a wonderful time and I want to
[24:35] say thank you to the city
[24:38] who welcomed me so well back in the day
[24:41] when we opened on april
[24:44] fools' day of 2004. I had been to
[24:47] a number of cities,
[24:49] the one I grew up in, antioch, pleasant
[24:50] hill where I had my
[24:51] magic store at the time and there
[24:53] was a lot of hoops to jump through
[24:55] and a young lady by the name of debbie
[24:56] dodson who had a
[24:58] business in town said you have to
[24:59] come to martinez and see
[25:01] what they are doing so when I came down
[25:05] a lady
[25:06] by the name of leanne I can't remember
[25:08] her last name she was
[25:10] the business development lady at the
[25:11] time, she
[25:12] took me around and showed me all of
[25:13] this. Everyone, the gentleman in charge
[25:14] of
[25:16] the business building codes and everything
[25:17] like that, he took
[25:20] me in and made it very easy
[25:25] to get started so I want to say how
[25:26] grateful I am to the city
[25:28] of martinez and all the help you have
[25:29] given me over the years
[25:32] now to my dear friend john
[25:33] who I have known at least 30 years
[25:35] and as the old song
[25:37] goes. I do believe that truly so thank
[25:38] you
[25:41] very much everyone. Thank you.
[25:46] >> I will keep it even shorter. I
[25:47] want
[25:50] to say thank you.
[25:52] a great honor to be welcomed to the
[25:53] community in this way.
[25:54] truly appreciate everyone coming down
[25:56] to recognize
[25:57] what jerry has done over the course
[25:59] of 21 years in business and I
[26:02] hope to have 21 more. Thank
[26:05] you very much.
[28:08] >>
[28:11] who has the microphone?
[28:23] >> all right, next item
[28:26] is a thrown labs update.
[28:29] mike, will you be introducing them?
[28:35] gotcha okay.
[28:37] they will be promoted there in the
[28:38] virtual audience.
[28:40] >> while getting promoted for anyone
[28:41] who is
[28:44] not aware the thrown labs is
[28:46] our free bathroom available to the public
[28:47] that
[28:50] is in the plaza downtown. And it has
[28:53] been a wonderful at to our plaza area
[28:56] and looking forward to hearing some
[28:57] of
[28:59] the statistics from thrown
[29:02] labs themselves. Hi natasha.
[29:05] >> hi how are you? >> great,
[29:08] thank you for joining us. Okay
[29:11] I will go ahead and jump in, thank
[29:12] you for
[29:14] introducing thrown labs as a new
[29:16] free bathroom you all have downtown
[29:17] I'm
[29:20] trying to share my screen but it is
[29:21] not allowing
[29:23] me to is there another
[29:26] , another thing I need to do
[29:28] to be able to share the screen?
[29:29] >>
[29:30] you should
[29:32] be able to share. Can you try again?
[29:35] >> yes.
[29:51] >> sorry
[29:53] it's going to have me leave and come back.
[29:57] I will be right back.
[30:09] >> she actually had
[30:12] to log out completely.
[30:15] it will be 1 minute.
[30:16] >> while she
[30:17] is doing that should we jump ahead
[30:21] to public , can I rearrange
[30:24] the agenda and to the consent
[30:26] calendar 1st then we go back to public comment?
[30:30] >> that is within your proper.
[30:33] >> let's do consent calendar
[30:34] as we wait for her to reconnect in
[30:35] case we get a bunch of public comments,
[30:36] for
[30:37] the consent calendar there are items
[30:39] 5
[30:42] through 16. Does
[30:44] anyone on council want to pull items off
[30:46] the consent calendar this evening?
[30:48] >>
[30:51] I don't have my agenda up
[30:54] but I think it is item 13.
[30:55] >>
[30:57] I was going to say 13.
[30:58] >>
[30:59] you want to pull that one okay. In
[31:00] that case I
[31:03] will open up
[31:05] to public comment. If there are any
[31:06] consent calendar items 5
[31:07] through 12 and 14 through 16 for those
[31:09] of you in council
[31:10] chambers does anyone have comments
[31:12] on
[31:14] consent calendar items excluding item 13?
[31:18] how about anyone
[31:21] in the virtual audience?
[31:22] >>
[31:23] those attending virtually please use
[31:24] the raise hand feature.
[31:30] I have no hands.
[31:31] >>
[31:32] all right we will bring this back
[31:33] to council for final
[31:36] comments or emotion.
[31:37] >>
[31:38] make a motion to pass consent calendar
[31:39] items 5 through 12 and 14
[31:42] to 16 correct?
[31:45] >> 2nd. >> all in favor?
[31:48] excellent.
[31:49] >> the motion
[31:50] passes.
[31:51] >> is she back online or can
[31:52] we proceed?
[31:54] >> she is back online. >>
[31:57] pause on item 13 go back to
[32:00] it and go back to natasha.
[32:09] >>
[32:12] all right
[32:14] trying again thank you everyone sorry
[32:15] about that.
[32:21] >> there we go.
[32:24] >> we were just admiring
[32:27] your santa claus earrings.
[32:28] >>
[32:30] thank you, they are actually cows
[32:33] dressed as santa.
[32:34] >>
[32:36] even more.
[32:37] >> thank you,
[32:39] they have been my mom's for 30 years
[32:42] so I will let her know you
[32:44] liked them. Thank you, as you heard
[32:45] before I
[32:48] am from thrown labs, the new free
[32:50] bathroom in martinez. Here today to
[32:51] give you a
[32:53] quick overview of what the thrown
[32:54] bathroom is. I want
[32:57] to give anyone who has not heard about thrown
[32:59] or is not familiar with the difference
[33:00] of what
[33:03] we have to offer versus a traditional
[33:04] public
[33:05] restroom we will give you a quick
[33:06] overview and talk about how the throne
[33:08] in martinez is going so far so one
[33:09] of the benefits
[33:12] is we are able to collect a lot
[33:15] of awesome data , not on your specific
[33:16] usage,
[33:18] I swear but on usage trends in general
[33:19] so
[33:20] we will go over that and time at the
[33:21] end if
[33:24] anyone has specific questions.
[33:27] jumping into how we
[33:29] got here today. Martinez was the 1st
[33:30] city to actually bring
[33:33] smart restrooms to the bay
[33:36] area and after you we had south
[33:38] san francisco and berkeley follow suit.
[33:42] one to highlight you as you are the
[33:44] leaders of innovation of the bay area
[33:45] when it comes to smart restrooms which
[33:47] has been exciting to see this newer
[33:48] innovative bathroom
[33:51] really take hold into your town
[33:54] and we have seen comments from
[33:57] users letting us know it has made
[33:59] it easier for residents to shop, dine
[34:00] and stay around main street
[34:03] known to have a public restroom option
[34:04] available
[34:06] to them. You might be
[34:07] wondering what is different about
[34:09] the thrown
[34:12] advised this public restroom something
[34:13] we're
[34:14] talking about today? The throne is a innovative
[34:15] new smart bathroom
[34:21] so it is ada compliant making it easy
[34:22] for folks to
[34:24] use even in a wheelchair,
[34:29] fast and flexible we can pick it up
[34:30] it is prefabricated and
[34:32] move it to the place we want to be
[34:33] in with no hookups and for
[34:35] that reason, no hassle, you don't
[34:36] have to have a sewage system or plumbing
[34:38] system underground and you don't have
[34:39] to have electrical hookups if you're
[34:42] able to access solar so that makes
[34:43] it easy for
[34:44] you to put it where you might need
[34:46] a portable bathroom.
[34:49] we also have smart systems
[34:50] in place that promote user accountability
[34:52] so while
[34:54] in some traditional bathrooms you
[34:55] may have issues
[34:58] around users using it or misusing
[35:01] the space we don't see that
[35:03] as much in throne because we have
[35:04] accountability
[35:06] systems built in and we have smart
[35:08] cleaning system we will talk more
[35:10] about where we are able
[35:11] to proactively and reactively clean
[35:18] thrones based off of usage patterns
[35:19] and we hold all the
[35:20] cleaning and maintenance for you.
[35:22] this slide
[35:24] says the same thing. Wanting the highlights,
[35:28] you don't have to do upfront capital cost
[35:31] where traditionally you may have to
[35:33] do a lot of planning to make a new
[35:34] public
[35:35] bathroom, this, you can deploy quickly
[35:37] because you
[35:39] don't have to spend the time planning
[35:43] and digging
[35:45] and doing the upfront capital that you would
[35:46] do
[35:47] in traditional bathrooms, able to
[35:49] deploy thrones within hours of knowing
[35:50] where
[35:52] we will put it and then planning
[35:53] in advance. Highlights include having
[35:55] a baby changing
[35:57] station in which we know parents comment
[35:58] they appreciate
[36:01] having a clean space to take their child
[36:04] into the restroom. We are
[36:07] launching this qr code
[36:10] integration with our system
[36:12] that makes it accessible for blind
[36:13] and low
[36:15] vision folks coming to all thrones
[36:19] fleetwide
[36:20] 2026 so we are excited to make it
[36:22] go beyond what is necessary
[36:25] to be ada compliant, but even
[36:28] become more accessible for a larger variety
[36:30] of folks and we have the option to
[36:31] add
[36:33] menstrual product dispensers and sharps
[36:34] containers and other things
[36:37] that make ours really accessible
[36:39] for a larger group of audience so this is
[36:40] a photo
[36:42] of what it might look like out in
[36:43] the wild.
[36:46] one of
[36:48] the things I mentioned was smart cleaning and
[36:51] the smart cleaning system is designed around
[36:52] a couple of
[36:55] different inputs. If we know the throne
[36:56] has
[36:57] been used a lot or folks are commenting
[36:58] the throne was
[37:01] really dirty, maybe somebody was washing
[37:03] their hands and they splashed everywhere
[37:06] where they had thrown the paper towels
[37:07] to the side rather than putting
[37:09] it in the bin users give us feedback,
[37:13] they ask how is the experience with
[37:16] throne today or can they rate cleanliness
[37:19] so if we start to see that going down
[37:20] that goes into the algorithm and how
[37:22] many times has
[37:25] the throne been used
[37:28] since the last clean as well as additional
[37:29] pieces
[37:30] that go into this formula. That tells
[37:31] us when do we need
[37:34] to go out and service the throne proactively
[37:35] so
[37:37] we can maintain a really sparkling
[37:38] service experience for any user who
[37:40] will use one
[37:43] so that's what the flow will look
[37:44] like
[37:45] a user uses the throne they are asked
[37:46] how it is
[37:49] that goes to the algorithm
[37:52] and you can see the algorithm of the
[37:53] cleaner who
[37:54] goes into clean the throne and send
[37:55] the update saying that it is good
[37:58] to go. So far
[38:00] while the throne has been in martinez
[38:01] here are results to date.
[38:04] from that cleanliness score that
[38:07] users are putting in
[38:10] after use we
[38:11] have maintained 4.3 out of 5 average
[38:12] cleanliness score for the duration
[38:13] of the time
[38:15] we had the throne which is pretty
[38:16] good anything
[38:19] over 4 is pretty remarkable. Seems
[38:21] like folks in martinez have taken
[38:22] good care of
[38:25] the throne and see it
[38:27] as part of their community. We can
[38:28] tell from
[38:31] pieces like
[38:32] there been no instances of vandalism
[38:34] to the bathroom and we have had
[38:37] no users with access restricted
[38:39] due to repeated misuse, to explain that
[38:40] we
[38:42] have this accountability mechanism built
[38:43] into the
[38:46] throne where if you're inside,
[38:49] your use is tied to a user id attached
[38:52] to your phone number
[38:55] so it does not tell us natasha is using
[38:57] the throne but user abc is using the throne
[39:01] and if the person goes in and misuses
[39:04] the throne which could mean they
[39:06] stay past the allotted 10 minute time
[39:07] period or
[39:10] their smoking in the throne or doing
[39:13] something else that can spark
[39:16] a sensor to tell us somebody is misusing it
[39:19] they will get a warning saying they
[39:20] have missed used
[39:22] the throne they are asked
[39:25] to not do it again
[39:27] and if they continue to misuse that
[39:28] they will have access restricted so
[39:30] that accountability is one of the
[39:31] ways we make sure folks are
[39:33] taking care of this shared resource.
[39:37] in martinez we have had 0% of
[39:40] total user base be restricted so it
[39:41] is being well
[39:43] taken care of it is not being vandalized
[39:44] and people
[39:45] having positive experience with how
[39:46] clean it is.
[39:49] we also see folks
[39:52] are not staying past the allotted time
[39:57] so, in 15 minutes 99.8% of people
[39:59] are leaving
[40:00] and most people take less than 2 minutes
[40:02] so it's not a place
[40:05] that's having any loitering or
[40:08] any vandalism issues. It has become
[40:09] a great shared resource and we see
[40:11] that in the data.
[40:13] one of the other positive things I
[40:14] wanted
[40:16] to highlight is 34% of users have
[40:17] come
[40:19] back more than once so this is a testament
[40:20] to
[40:22] how much this is a community resource,
[40:24] folks are using it multiple times.
[40:32] last year I want to share copy
[40:33] and pasted comments directly from users
[40:35] that they have shared with
[40:38] us. 1
[40:40] user uses the throne and asked how
[40:41] the
[40:43] expense was if they let us know on
[40:44] a
[40:46] scale of 1 to 5 over text they are
[40:47] asked if
[40:48] they would like to leave additional
[40:50] comments about their use.
[40:51] these are some comments that folks
[40:53] have shared
[40:56] and one of
[40:57] the best ones was amazing expense,
[40:58] I was panicking for any place for
[40:59] relief,
[41:02] this experience blew my mind,
[41:04] 10 out of 10 will be back again probably.
[41:07] great that folks are going out of
[41:08] their way to
[41:10] leave these positive comments and share
[41:14] their experience back with us
[41:16] and we want to make sure to share
[41:17] back with
[41:20] you all.
[41:26] I believe this slide up in case anyone
[41:27] is
[41:28] reading them but just wanted to pause.
[41:29] I know that was quick. Does anyone
[41:30] have
[41:31] questions or any high-level thoughts
[41:32] or reactions?
[41:34] >> all the council microphones are
[41:35] off, but they are
[41:36] giggling about it being a magical
[41:38] place.
[41:39] >> only disneyland is magical.
[41:41] >> I would like to state for the
[41:43] record when I have had friends, when
[41:44] we have
[41:46] been out and about and they have commented looking
[41:47] for a restroom or something
[41:50] and I remind them the throne is there
[41:53] and they come back and report
[41:56] that it
[41:57] was a magical place so that's real
[41:59] and it's possible that was my
[42:02] comment. Anyway,
[42:04] thank you very much for the report
[42:05] out, that is super
[42:06] helpful. Really nice to hear that
[42:08] there have been no
[42:11] recorded vandalism's because I know
[42:14] you know this, but we had put a party
[42:17] or 2 immediately adjacent
[42:20] to where the throne is located.
[42:23] it was a burned down,
[42:24] we constantly had to pay more because
[42:26] things like
[42:28] debris and needles and things you
[42:29] cannot clean were
[42:30] getting thrown in it. So it was becoming
[42:32] quite the headache. These
[42:35] great stats are perfect.
[42:38] it's exactly what we were going for and
[42:41] I want to congratulate you and thank
[42:42] you
[42:43] and the engineering team. I'm not sure
[42:46] if it was you or someone else who
[42:47] found this and brought
[42:50] it to us, someone researched it.
[42:53] so our chief of police
[42:56] brought it to us and we were in agreement
[42:58] that this would be worth the money
[42:59] because we could get
[43:02] it out rolling quickly and
[43:04] we did from the day we improved it
[43:07] it was up and running in 3 months
[43:08] or less.
[43:10] less than 90 days which was amazing.
[43:11] so it was proof
[43:14] of concept
[43:16] that has proven itself and turned
[43:17] out to be a really good
[43:19] solution. Those are my very positive comments
[43:23] so thank you, appreciate
[43:25] it.
[43:26] >> thank you so much for sharing
[43:27] that. More than happy to
[43:28] do additional readouts later if you
[43:29] want more data
[43:31] with updates. Thank you all for having
[43:32] me today
[43:34] and it was great to get a chance to
[43:35] join you.
[43:36] >> before
[43:38] you go, thank you so much for
[43:40] the presentation. I appreciate it,
[43:41] I loved
[43:44] what you said at the outset which
[43:45] is we were
[43:47] the 1st in the bay
[43:49] so I'm happy to hear that martinez
[43:50] has won the proverbial
[43:53] game of thrones
[43:55] , thank you for that sorry I could
[43:56] not resist.
[43:59] >> years that if you would like.
[44:02] >> one quick question for you
[44:05] which was that
[44:07] , you know when this concept came
[44:08] before us
[44:11] initially we were looking at a couple
[44:12] of different
[44:13] models if I am not mistaken. Looking
[44:14] at the portable
[44:17] versus one that was permanent
[44:19] and was the permanent theirs or not?
[44:23] >> it was a actual build. >>
[44:26] okay, so that answers that so
[44:29] thank you. My question was
[44:32] , do you have like
[44:35] I don't think there's a way to capture
[44:36] this
[44:38] unless people volunteer, but
[44:40] curious to know the demographics of
[44:41] the people using it because I
[44:44] would still venture particularly for
[44:45] senior citizen
[44:47] population it might be
[44:49] a little intimidating because they
[44:50] are not really familiar with
[44:53] the scanning and all
[44:56] that involved so just wondering how
[44:57] have
[44:59] you worked to address that? Do you
[45:00] will
[45:02] send out ambassadors to help?
[45:07] like for instance we have a big holiday
[45:08] parade coming up in a couple
[45:10] weeks and I would imagine it's going
[45:11] to get used a lot hopefully. In
[45:14] fact we might need more. I
[45:16] was wondering do you have thoughts
[45:17] on that in terms of
[45:20] you get maybe
[45:22] the elder population to be comfortable with
[45:27] the technology?
[45:28] >> I heard
[45:29] 2 questions and I will answer the
[45:30] 1st, question about
[45:32] if we know anything about demographics
[45:33] we don't
[45:36] and one of the
[45:38] rules is don't be creepy so we don't have
[45:42] a way we don't want to
[45:44] create a way of knowing anything much about
[45:48] our users.
[45:49] we want them to have that privacy
[45:51] so it's in the
[45:52] privacy policy where not collecting
[45:54] that demographic data
[45:56] so not be able to insert that part.
[46:00] the question
[46:01] of making it accessible for the elderly
[46:03] we have a few ways of entering, so
[46:05] on the front live a qr code that says
[46:08] scan to enter that gives you a shortcut
[46:09] to a text message
[46:11] when you scan a text message pre-populated
[46:14] will come up on the phone and you
[46:15] click send,
[46:18] we know scanning is the barrier
[46:21] you're mentioning. Some folks
[46:22] are little bit less familiar with
[46:24] how to use the phone
[46:25] to scan so there is another option
[46:27] underneath that says
[46:30] or text this word to this
[46:33] phone number and the throne
[46:35] will open. Instead of doing shortcut
[46:36] through
[46:38] the scan they can text directly and
[46:39] we find
[46:41] that makes it a little more accessible
[46:42] where
[46:44] some folks may want to scan because
[46:45] it's faster,
[46:48] they cannot figure that out
[46:50] or if the phone is unable to get the
[46:51] qr
[46:52] code to work, some people struggle
[46:54] with that and they
[46:56] are able to use the text message option.
[46:57] >>
[47:00] thank you so much
[47:02] really helpful to know.
[47:03] >> question
[47:04] for the
[47:05] city manager for a short time we were
[47:06] talking about a 3rd option
[47:09] of having physical cards
[47:11] you could use, did we ever roll it out?
[47:15] >> we did get
[47:18] some cards. Interesting because this
[47:19] conversation
[47:21] about demographic and such that
[47:23] training either already has occurred
[47:27] will be scheduled at the senior
[47:28] center. We are going to do that for
[47:30] that reason
[47:33] in case people still see the barrier.
[47:36] but again , trying
[47:38] to encourage them through education
[47:42] to use the options available on the throne
[47:45] with the hopefully distant 3rd the
[47:47] cards themselves and there's a limited
[47:51] quantity anyway
[47:54] it is a finite number. How those will
[47:56] be distributed is up for discussion
[47:57] obviously the senior center
[47:58] is a logical place to host that so
[48:00] that is in the works.
[48:02] >> I have only ever received one complaint
[48:06] because they
[48:08] were struggling trying to get in. Otherwise
[48:09] I have received nothing
[48:12] but positive responses and I
[48:13] was surprised oftentimes with qr codes there
[48:15] is some thinking that
[48:18] the phone does but because this will
[48:19] prompt
[48:21] a pre-populated text message
[48:22] it is way simpler and sort of happens
[48:24] and you send it and the
[48:27] door opens so it becomes more intuitive
[48:30] than people might be concerned
[48:33] that it would be.
[48:36] I have only received
[48:38] one has anyone in council received complaints
[48:39] or compliments or concerns from the
[48:41] public?
[48:42] >> complements more than anything.
[48:45] were appreciative of the fact we responded
[48:48] to the need , the prior set
[48:51] up was placing
[48:53] undue burden on some downtown businesses
[48:54] so they
[48:56] very much appreciated. If anything
[49:00] I'm glad based on tonight's presentation
[49:02] I would love to find ways to see how
[49:03] we could bring an additional
[49:06] 1 at some point down the road
[49:08] but given where we are with financial.
[49:09] thank
[49:12] you.
[49:13] >> thank you
[49:15] , did you have a question?
[49:18] >> I wanted to commend you because
[49:19] this
[49:21] is amazing. I never thought we would
[49:22] get this far
[49:24] in and have 0 vandalism so whatever
[49:26] you're doing holding people accountable
[49:27] seems
[49:30] to work well I wish you
[49:32] would come down take over all parks because
[49:36] 0 vandalism is amazing
[49:39] and I get rave reviews,
[49:41] I walked downtown all the time and
[49:42] I get
[49:45] rave reviews from people down there
[49:46] quite often.
[49:48] I saw one person struggling to
[49:51] get in. And then one of the
[49:54] business owners took his time, came
[49:55] over and showed
[49:57] him the process
[50:00] and it worked out wonderful. So yes.
[50:06] I am a big fan and thank you.
[50:07] >> of
[50:08] course, one follow-up comment we
[50:09] can see the breakdown of how many
[50:10] people are entering via
[50:11] the text and how many are entering
[50:12] via
[50:15] the app and martinez overtime has
[50:18] moved more toward the app so
[50:22] they are 20% of total
[50:23] users individual users getting into
[50:25] the app so they are starting to
[50:27] see this as this is something that
[50:28] will
[50:29] be here forever and we want to go
[50:31] ahead and download
[50:33] the app because it's going to make
[50:34] it faster for them
[50:35] to open. In the app they can click
[50:37] one button that says
[50:39] begin use and they can walk in and
[50:40] we have seen
[50:43] that number the percentage
[50:45] took up overtime.
[50:46] >> that's great.
[50:49] >> I did not know there was
[50:51] an app and I have been paying attention
[50:54] . Thank you so much for joining us
[50:55] tonight. Really
[50:58] appreciate it. Say hello to
[51:00] the gang for us. We saw some of the
[51:04] throne
[51:05] folks at the conference in long beach
[51:06] and they give us the spectacular pins
[51:07] in
[51:08] the shape of thrones and we were wearing
[51:10] them and everyone
[51:12] was jealous and I'm really sad I forgot
[51:13] mine at home.
[51:15] >> really cool they create a conversation.
[51:16] people ask why do
[51:19] you have a throne ?
[51:20] >> thank you, have a great evening.
[51:22] >> have
[51:24] a great one everyone.
[51:25] >> all right,
[51:27] let's proceed through the agenda,
[51:28] I skipped
[51:31] public comment so I will
[51:32] go back to public comment then back
[51:34] to the consent calendar item.
[51:40] we
[51:41] don't normally take comments on the presentation
[51:44] but you are welcome to talk during
[51:45] public comment because we're going
[51:46] into
[51:48] it now so I can call on your 1st.
[51:49] okay so I have one
[51:52] speaker card and you can step up
[51:55] after that. 1st
[51:58] up.
[52:00] >> hard to follow that last presentation
[52:01] but I will
[52:04] try. Hello I live in
[52:07] pleasant hill I am here to as
[52:09] for the councils help with preventable
[52:11] public health crisis directly impacting
[52:13] the city's district 3
[52:16] and a lot more. We need
[52:18] help getting unleaded aviation fuel
[52:22] into the
[52:23] county buchanan field, years after
[52:25] other airports offer the widely available
[52:27] unleaded fuel, buchanan continues
[52:28] to
[52:31] only offer
[52:33] toxic leaded fuel, each propeller
[52:34] plane flying out of concord
[52:37] releases an estimated 2.3 teaspoons
[52:38] of
[52:40] toxic lead dust per hour.
[52:43] in 2016 there were over 122,000
[52:46] takeoffs and landings , that's a lot
[52:49] of lead. Flight schools based at
[52:52] buchanan burn leaded fuel
[52:55] as they do loops around the airfield
[52:56] all
[52:57] day long every day, our concern needs
[52:58] to focus on the counties
[53:01] lack of concern.
[53:03] please read the airport director's
[53:04] county
[53:06] website update regarding the transition
[53:07] to
[53:10] unleaded fuel it states that an
[53:13] unleaded option has been on the market
[53:16] for the last 6 years and
[53:19] he added only 68%
[53:25] of the
[53:27] piston powered planes can use it. He is
[53:28] pointing out the failure of the county
[53:30] to provide 60% of all propeller planes with an
[53:31] unleaded option for the last
[53:33] 6 years. Shame on them, lead is a
[53:34] well-known health risk delaying
[53:37] 6 years seems criminal what
[53:40] can we do? 1st, read about
[53:43] san jose's read
[53:45] hillview airport horrible results
[53:46] from a study in 2020
[53:49] on the lead levels
[53:52] in children's blood, they absorb easily
[53:55] and is only causes permanent
[53:57] cognitive damage. Next contact supervisor
[54:01] preston scales she is aware of the
[54:04] health crisis,
[54:06] urge her to use community benefit
[54:07] award funds to offer incentives to
[54:08] pilots so
[54:09] they will use unleaded fuel. Next,
[54:10] contact supervisor
[54:13] john , one of the
[54:16] reps on the board of the bay area
[54:17] air district and
[54:19] ask him to get
[54:21] blood testing done within a mile and
[54:22] a half of the end of the
[54:24] runway's of buchanan. In 2021 john
[54:25] and the board petitioned
[54:28] the state health department to do more
[54:31] blood testing at other airports,
[54:33] the air board told us it has a lot
[54:34] of money from fines. Our
[54:37] families need a study
[54:39] so they can know the danger and how
[54:40] to deal with it.
[54:42] I believe there are 7000 kids attending
[54:43] school within
[54:46] 1 1/2
[54:47] miles of buchanan, please work to
[54:49] protect kids from these lead spewing
[54:52] flying recreational vehicles.
[54:55] thank you.
[54:56] >>
[54:58] thank you all right. Would you like
[55:01] to comment? Come up
[55:04] to the microphone, otherwise people
[55:05] online cannot
[55:07] hear your.
[55:10] >> I was going to ask about this throne
[55:11] was
[55:12] going to keep people from sleeping
[55:13] in it? You know at nighttime the homeless
[55:17] people or whatever ?
[55:20] >> I think
[55:23] has natasha hung up
[55:26] the phone ? I
[55:27] will answer the question and we can
[55:28] get more information. Because of the
[55:29] way
[55:32] that the throne
[55:34] the way it works the doors automatically
[55:35] open
[55:36] after a set amount of time so they
[55:38] inherently cannot sleep in it because
[55:41] I have regular monitoring with
[55:44] access, via the phones so
[55:45] they are able to know someone is in
[55:47] there exceeding the 15 minute limit.
[55:49] that was the data she presented.
[55:50] >>
[55:53] thank you.
[55:56] some easier than having her.
[55:59] is anyone else in the
[56:00] council chambers with public comment
[56:02] this evening?
[56:08] would you like to?
[56:11] are you good? Okay
[56:13] all right how about in the virtual audience?
[56:17] >> for those attending virtually
[56:18] please use the raise hand feature now.
[56:26] I have no hands.
[56:29] >> all right will come back to
[56:30] council, sorry for rearranging the
[56:32] agenda as a reminder
[56:34] consent calendar we did approve items
[56:38] 5 through 12 and 14 through 16
[56:41] and we pulled item 13 which
[56:42] is adopt a resolution approving public
[56:46] art application. So I think you pulled
[56:47] 1st would
[56:48] you like to ask your questions?
[56:49] >>
[56:50] sure, thank you. I don't
[56:52] believe I am the only one that wanted
[56:53] to pull for
[56:56] additional questions.
[56:57] I have a couple of questions, the
[56:59] 1st one has to do with
[57:02] staff report there was a mention
[57:03] because I know we asked for neighbors
[57:05] to be notified and it did indicate
[57:08] november 7 there were notices
[57:11] distributed to the neighbors
[57:14] , that is all that it
[57:15] said in the staff report. There was
[57:17] not any follow-up
[57:19] if anyone had concerns or comments or
[57:20] anything like that
[57:23] so I was curious if we had
[57:25] information along those lines that
[57:26] we wanted to hear
[57:29] about tonight.
[57:32] >> so, in the notices
[57:35] we directed people to use the public comment
[57:38] when the agenda is posted so we
[57:40] did provide information about when
[57:41] that would
[57:44] be posted and also
[57:45] provided my direct contact information
[57:47] and I received
[57:50] one inquiry on how to submit
[57:52] public comment and provided the agenda information
[57:53] for
[57:56] that person.
[57:58] >> okay, thank you. My other questions
[57:59] have to
[58:01] do with some of the feedback that
[58:02] we provided
[58:05] in altering
[58:08] , somewhat the mural.
[58:11] I'm not sure
[58:14] what we asked for or what we
[58:16] had wanted the artist to consider was
[58:17] reflected
[58:20] in the new potential
[58:23] drawing.
[58:25] so I want to point out a couple of
[58:26] things. So the
[58:29] 1st drawing, the original has some beautiful
[58:32] little fish along the central
[58:35] and that actually
[58:38] kind of blends talking about stylistic
[58:41] and having everything planned
[58:44] the 2nd, the newest one to me
[58:47] not really
[58:50] conformed to our request to
[58:53] have it more stylistic
[58:56] content consistent
[58:59] that is one of my comments
[59:01] and we talked about the silhouette
[59:02] figures and we
[59:05] were not really
[59:07] we wanted something different from
[59:08] the silhouettes
[59:10] which is the black silhouettes in the
[59:11] upper
[59:14] right side so those are now , there
[59:17] is additional silhouette figures
[59:18] and I thought we talked about alternates
[59:20] to that.
[59:22] and I think there was another comment
[59:23] in the staff
[59:25] report about the boy on the skateboard
[59:29] and that seemed
[59:30] to be looking identical. So I'm not
[59:32] really sure that this
[59:35] rendering reflected what we had asked.
[59:38] so I just wanted to kind of put those
[59:41] comments out. On the original, the
[59:44] girl and all the greenery
[59:47] and the water because the water reflects
[59:50] the
[59:51] straits and the fish I did like that
[59:53] I think that is beautiful I don't
[59:56] know that I like
[59:58] the random flowers and things in the
[59:59] 2nd rendering
[1:00:01] it takes away from the waterfront and
[1:00:04] we wanted to have that reflected.
[1:00:08] those are some
[1:00:10] of my comments. I will let my colleagues
[1:00:11] express their comments.
[1:00:12] >> to piggyback
[1:00:14] on your comment regarding the ,
[1:00:17] the figure , the children figures,
[1:00:20] I thought we had said
[1:00:23] to decide if they were going
[1:00:25] to be silhouettes or if they were
[1:00:26] going to
[1:00:29] be lifelike. So, it
[1:00:32] appears from the
[1:00:34] update, that there was no changes
[1:00:35] to the children
[1:00:38] imagery
[1:00:41] there is still the, they are the same
[1:00:42] and
[1:00:44] I thought that was one of the key pieces
[1:00:47] to establish some consistency on the
[1:00:50] visual look of the
[1:00:53] young people. And then,
[1:00:56] I also had the
[1:00:59] question that
[1:01:01] that you brought up in terms of what
[1:01:03] was feedback from
[1:01:04] the surveys so that was addressed
[1:01:11] >> so just want to share we do have
[1:01:15] mce and the artist
[1:01:17] are present at tonight's meeting virtually
[1:01:20] so they can add to the information
[1:01:24] staff is going to share we
[1:01:25] did include in the written staff report
[1:01:27] a table
[1:01:29] which summarize the comments expressed
[1:01:30] by
[1:01:33] the council with a response, in terms
[1:01:36] of how the artist revised
[1:01:39] the mural design.
[1:01:42] the intent of doing that
[1:01:44] was because, there is a couple locations
[1:01:45] where
[1:01:47] the changes are ever so subtle. But
[1:01:51] when you have the ability of
[1:01:54] blowing it up and having it more in
[1:01:55] scale with what we will ultimately
[1:01:57] see, those changes are more apparent.
[1:01:58] a good example of that is with the
[1:02:03] boy figure so the
[1:02:06] boy figure how
[1:02:09] the boy is slightly different
[1:02:10] in particular the outline and it is
[1:02:12] being revised
[1:02:15] so the outline style
[1:02:16] is more consistent with the outline
[1:02:18] style of the primary
[1:02:21] woman figure in the foreground.
[1:02:27] >> I get that and I look at
[1:02:28] the comments in terms of what we propose
[1:02:30] and what the outcome was but
[1:02:33] I very specifically remember
[1:02:36] us making note
[1:02:39] determining which style we're
[1:02:42] going to use
[1:02:45] if we're going to make them all looked childlike
[1:02:47] and then the silhouettes should have been
[1:02:50] childlike or if the decision was to
[1:02:51] make them silhouettes and
[1:02:54] make everybody. So
[1:02:56] to the point, it seems like that was
[1:03:00] not addressed
[1:03:06] >>
[1:03:07] I think it may be helpful if we can check
[1:03:09] with the artist.
[1:03:12] timothy hahn.
[1:03:21] >>
[1:03:24] tim has been promoted it will take
[1:03:27] a 2nd.
[1:03:28] >>
[1:03:30] hi can you hear me?
[1:03:33] to address that,
[1:03:35] a lot of this has to do with not overwhelming
[1:03:39] the viewer so there is a
[1:03:42] visual hierarchy. We want a focal
[1:03:43] point and we
[1:03:45] want it to read we can
[1:03:48] definitely add details, but
[1:03:50] they are intentionally left simple
[1:03:54] so that it does not take
[1:03:55] away from the focal point, the main
[1:03:57] character and the 2nd read
[1:03:59] might be the kid where the flowers
[1:04:00] and the
[1:04:03] 3rd or 4th or 5th
[1:04:06] might be the children playing. So
[1:04:08] when it comes down to it I know they
[1:04:09] look like
[1:04:11] silhouettes and we will add detail
[1:04:12] as we do
[1:04:14] that, but a little bit of detail,
[1:04:17] just enough to make it fit but not enough
[1:04:21] to compete with the other things that
[1:04:22] is
[1:04:24] kind of my take.
[1:04:25] >> I appreciate that.
[1:04:27] looking at the children behind the
[1:04:28] young
[1:04:29] man on the skateboard, they look more lifelike.
[1:04:33] have a little more color than
[1:04:36] the silhouette so for me I
[1:04:37] don't think that's going to significantly
[1:04:39] disrupt the imagery
[1:04:42] , but again that was a
[1:04:45] specific ask out of this
[1:04:48] body, in particular if
[1:04:51] you look at , with the
[1:04:54] proposed design , the sunflowers have
[1:04:57] been removed so I do
[1:05:00] not think that making those
[1:05:02] silhouette children consistent with
[1:05:05] the ones behind the skateboarder is
[1:05:06] going
[1:05:09] to materially disturb this
[1:05:12] , this mural.
[1:05:15] >> I understand. Apologize for
[1:05:18] that. I thought you are mainly talking
[1:05:19] about
[1:05:21] the kid on the
[1:05:23] skateboard side and I missed that
[1:05:24] part.
[1:05:25] >> no problem.
[1:05:27] >> can I jump in? Hi
[1:05:30] thank you for clarifying. Is
[1:05:33] it possible to have those
[1:05:36] the black
[1:05:38] silhouettes kind of resemble more
[1:05:39] of the children
[1:05:40] on the bottom left? Is that something you
[1:05:42] could incorporate as a 2nd revision?
[1:05:45] is that something that
[1:05:48] you can do?
[1:05:51] >> yes we can definitely do
[1:05:54] that. Yes. I would love
[1:05:56] to do that on the fly with you guys
[1:05:57] if we get the
[1:06:00] approval and if we could not miss
[1:06:03] another month
[1:06:05] for approvals but yes my answer is
[1:06:06] yes we can definitely
[1:06:09] make that little more detailed
[1:06:12] than it is.
[1:06:13] >> okay thank you.
[1:06:15] before you got promoted onto
[1:06:18] the meeting I had made a comment about
[1:06:22] the fish that
[1:06:23] were in the original drawing and I
[1:06:25] feel like to me
[1:06:28] that is very beautiful
[1:06:29] and elegant and reflects the waterfront
[1:06:32] and the replacement with the flowers
[1:06:34] and other things
[1:06:37] I feel that,
[1:06:38] that actually takes away from the
[1:06:40] center image. It
[1:06:43] is distracting from the center
[1:06:46] image.
[1:06:47] >> can
[1:06:48] I jump in for a 2nd? I did reach out
[1:06:49] to a couple
[1:06:50] members of the public and they were very
[1:06:52] excited and supportive so
[1:06:54] I want to make sure we are not over
[1:06:57] projecting our personal artistic opinions
[1:07:00] on this particular design because
[1:07:04] I think there's a lot of ways
[1:07:06] murals like this can go so just so
[1:07:08] you know your comment now sort of
[1:07:10] negates your comment
[1:07:12] so we're back to neutral because she
[1:07:13] was super stoked
[1:07:15] on that.
[1:07:16] >> I would like to say I
[1:07:17] am super
[1:07:18] not stoked and I like the original
[1:07:19] rendering because I think
[1:07:22] it more reflects the waterfront
[1:07:23] and the picture, the blue around the
[1:07:25] center image
[1:07:28] really makes the image stand out
[1:07:31] a little bit
[1:07:32] more from the background and if you
[1:07:33] like the flowers are competing and
[1:07:34] that is I
[1:07:35] guess my personal opinion but I think
[1:07:37] others may share that.
[1:07:41] >> can I ask a clarifying question?
[1:07:43] in regards to
[1:07:46] the flowers ,
[1:07:49] if you could please
[1:07:51] transition to the other image. Okay so
[1:07:55] , if you are facing
[1:07:58] the mural , directly down and
[1:08:01] to the right of the primary
[1:08:03] female figure there is the flowers
[1:08:04] there were previously
[1:08:07] so I understand the comment
[1:08:10] in regards to that.
[1:08:13] do you share that same comment
[1:08:15] in regards to how the flowers have
[1:08:16] been added
[1:08:19] underneath text in the lower right-hand
[1:08:22] corner of the image? Or is it
[1:08:24] just the one portion immediately adjacent
[1:08:25] to
[1:08:28] the female figure that you are
[1:08:30] having problems with?
[1:08:31] >> for me is
[1:08:32] the flowers to the
[1:08:34] right of the child.
[1:08:37] and where the 2
[1:08:40] leaves and the fish were.
[1:08:41] >>
[1:08:43] thank you for clarifying.
[1:08:46] >> does anyone have
[1:08:48] any other comments about this, just
[1:08:52] those few?
[1:08:53] >>
[1:08:54] I really appreciate how we brought
[1:08:55] the
[1:08:57] boys and girls club logo forward.
[1:09:01] I think that is wonderful to call out.
[1:09:06] and I really appreciate all the hard work.
[1:09:10] >> if it is
[1:09:12] okay I will open up to public comment
[1:09:13] if we have any
[1:09:16] then we will bring it back anyone
[1:09:17] in
[1:09:18] council chambers wants to comment
[1:09:19] on the art? Yes,
[1:09:22] go ahead.
[1:09:23] >>
[1:09:24] why she the main focal part she's
[1:09:25] not a child? The other thing I think
[1:09:26] it
[1:09:28] should be more based on the kids that
[1:09:30] actually used to go to the boys and
[1:09:31] girls club that
[1:09:34] went to go play basketball
[1:09:36] and have a good time and get together
[1:09:37] as children. That is what
[1:09:40] should be, the unity of children
[1:09:42] getting together as a focal point
[1:09:43] on the building rather
[1:09:46] than flowers and whatever.
[1:09:48] you have that in the background maybe,
[1:09:49] but the main
[1:09:52] part is the children.
[1:09:55] thank you.
[1:09:58] >> thank you.
[1:10:01] any other comments?
[1:10:04] how about in the
[1:10:05] virtual audience anyone with comments on
[1:10:07] this item?
[1:10:08] >>
[1:10:10] please use the raise hand feature.
[1:10:16] I have no
[1:10:19] hands.
[1:10:20] >> I will bring this back
[1:10:22] to council. I appreciate the comments that
[1:10:25] debbie made. I think what I heard
[1:10:27] was that there is a couple of comments
[1:10:31] we would like to
[1:10:32] see incorporated, my preference would
[1:10:34] be to prove this evening so they can
[1:10:37] move forward. Does anyone
[1:10:39] on council have concerns with approving
[1:10:40] while making note
[1:10:43] of the comments?
[1:10:46] >>
[1:10:49] if we approve it, how do we
[1:10:51] have any kind of visual rendering
[1:10:52] of what's going up onto
[1:10:55] the wall of the boys and
[1:10:58] girls club?
[1:10:59] >> well michael did you
[1:11:01] want to respond?
[1:11:02] >> can I recommend
[1:11:04] if there is support from the council
[1:11:06] you could designate one member on
[1:11:07] the council that staff
[1:11:10] will share the revised proposal
[1:11:13] in response to
[1:11:15] your specific direction to ensure
[1:11:16] that it is in
[1:11:19] adherence with that direction.
[1:11:25] >>
[1:11:28] this is the most
[1:11:30] comments our council has ever provided
[1:11:31] on any art that has gone up on the
[1:11:33] walls and I think we are overthinking this
[1:11:36] and I don't think we should be providing
[1:11:37] input like that so that is
[1:11:40] my opinion.
[1:11:43] if I am outvoted that's fine if the
[1:11:44] rest of my
[1:11:45] counselor like to have somebody who
[1:11:46] follows us to otherwise every other
[1:11:47] art piece
[1:11:48] we have approved at 75% conceptual level
[1:11:51] and we have entrusted the artist to
[1:11:53] paint it and
[1:11:55] I would like to point out tim has
[1:11:57] been the artist for all the other
[1:11:58] murals and everyone has been okay
[1:11:59] up
[1:12:01] to this point so I'm not super excited
[1:12:02] about
[1:12:05] holding go ahead.
[1:12:08] >> to
[1:12:09] me this is a little different because
[1:12:11] I think there is
[1:12:13] an understanding I had it changed
[1:12:14] last time
[1:12:15] there was a understanding or misunderstanding that
[1:12:19] this had to do with the boys and girls club
[1:12:20] we
[1:12:21] had a speaker talk about that and
[1:12:23] in actuality
[1:12:24] this does not have to do necessarily with
[1:12:28] the boys and girls club this is about
[1:12:31] an energy company talking about the future.
[1:12:33] so it is confusing because when I
[1:12:35] was here I thought it had to do
[1:12:37] with the boys and girls club and had
[1:12:38] the same questions where
[1:12:41] they're not children why does it not
[1:12:42] reflect the boys and girls club so
[1:12:44] I was mistaken
[1:12:46] so this is more about the energy company
[1:12:47] and
[1:12:50] and the mce and their vision and
[1:12:53] their future and the vibrancy of
[1:12:56] the company.
[1:12:57] >> I'm sorry.
[1:12:58] mce is the utility company that provides
[1:12:59] energy not
[1:13:02] an arbitrary company
[1:13:04] that has come in.
[1:13:05] >> correct they
[1:13:06] provide energy. It
[1:13:07] is different from a merrill that depicts
[1:13:11] you know the animals on the
[1:13:14] floor and that's not
[1:13:16] very controversial or has any issues
[1:13:17] or
[1:13:20] whatever. To me it is different I
[1:13:22] feel this is different where it is placed
[1:13:23] and
[1:13:26] what they are depicting it
[1:13:27] is a little bit different from the
[1:13:29] other murals that we have had I want
[1:13:31] to make sure that we are all in agreement
[1:13:32] and what
[1:13:33] it is reflecting in the consistency
[1:13:35] in the image across the entirety?
[1:13:41] >>
[1:13:44] thank you does anyone have any other comments?
[1:13:53] >> with a lack of comments would
[1:13:56] anyone be interested in making
[1:13:59] a motion?
[1:14:02] I will make a motion that we approve
[1:14:05] this
[1:14:08] art proposed proposed to
[1:14:11] us sorry. Which
[1:14:14] is item 13
[1:14:17] item 13 on the consent
[1:14:20] calendar.
[1:14:21] >>
[1:14:28] >> does that include the suggestions
[1:14:29] around the children?
[1:14:32] >> I will restate.
[1:14:35] I'm a we adopt
[1:14:36] resolution approving the public art
[1:14:38] application and proposed mural to
[1:14:41] include the recommendation provided
[1:14:44] by council but not requiring it and
[1:14:47] allowing the artist to have
[1:14:49] artistic license with the final design.
[1:14:50] >> 2nd.
[1:14:53] >> all in favor please say aye.
[1:14:59] any opposed any abstaining?
[1:15:02] >> the motion passes.
[1:15:05] >> to put it on the record
[1:15:08] if there is as staff
[1:15:09] determines a more significant departure
[1:15:11] from the direction where the
[1:15:12] recommendations that were provided
[1:15:14] this evening,
[1:15:16] similar to what happened with another mural
[1:15:20] we would bring it back to the
[1:15:21] entire council for consideration.
[1:15:22] >>
[1:15:26] thank
[1:15:27] you. Moving on public hearing items
[1:15:29] number 18 I know this is why the rest
[1:15:30] of
[1:15:31] you are here this evening conduct
[1:15:32] public hearing and adopt resolution
[1:15:35] adopting the
[1:15:38] marina fee schedule.
[1:15:39] >> we have a
[1:15:40] general business item
[1:15:41] number 17.
[1:15:42] >> sorry I skipped it receive
[1:15:43] update whole discussion provide input
[1:15:44] to staff on the 2526 general fund budget
[1:15:45] and
[1:15:47] cip project list. Thank you, I am
[1:15:50] so sorry.
[1:15:51] >> so tonight
[1:15:53] we will give you a brief
[1:15:55] check in on where we are with the
[1:15:56] budget and where we are with
[1:15:59] capital improvements.
[1:16:01] to lead us in the presentation I will
[1:16:02] turn it over to assistant city manager.
[1:16:05] >> great, thank you. I will try to
[1:16:06] keep
[1:16:08] this brief and we have folks for the
[1:16:11] next item so bear with me if I
[1:16:13] talk a little fast. As mike mentioned
[1:16:14] when we adopted
[1:16:17] the annual budget for this fiscal
[1:16:18] year we made
[1:16:20] a commitment to come back to you before
[1:16:22] regularly scheduled midyear review
[1:16:23] in the fall
[1:16:26] to say checking on how we are doing
[1:16:28] for the economic uncertainty that
[1:16:29] we had.
[1:16:32] the information that
[1:16:34] fit into this report is from july
[1:16:35] 1 to october 31.
[1:16:38] a little over 1/4.
[1:16:41] junior sitting here next to me,
[1:16:43] in case there is detailed questions,
[1:16:44] we will do our
[1:16:46] best to pull up details on the fly
[1:16:47] , but
[1:16:49] I will give a pretty good check in
[1:16:50] on various
[1:16:53] department budgets that I think
[1:16:55] were of higher interest during the
[1:16:57] budget adoption back
[1:17:00] in june. And as a reminder we
[1:17:02] do have our midyear review which is
[1:17:06] more comprehensive, more detail
[1:17:09] , that's coming up in february.
[1:17:11] so a quick agenda I will provide a
[1:17:14] budget overview sort of where we were
[1:17:18] when we adopted the budget,
[1:17:19] what were the conditions, I will be
[1:17:21] focusing tonight
[1:17:23] progress on the general fund, expenditures
[1:17:25] and revenues. I will give a brief
[1:17:29] marina fund update although I know
[1:17:30] that
[1:17:31] will be the focus of one of the upcoming
[1:17:33] items and then our public works
[1:17:36] director will provide a cip
[1:17:38] update, everything fairly high-level.
[1:17:41] a quick strategic plan alignment, this
[1:17:45] item tonight aligns with goal
[1:17:48] a fiscal around
[1:17:49] financial sustainability. A quick
[1:17:51] budget overview.
[1:17:54] going into this fiscal year
[1:17:56] we had various cost drivers and revenue drivers
[1:18:00] that went into the formation of the
[1:18:01] budget ultimately resulting in a starting
[1:18:03] deficit of $1.5 million
[1:18:09] so I will not go through each
[1:18:10] of these individually, but you may
[1:18:11] recall cost drivers include continued
[1:18:12] increases to
[1:18:14] insurance, continued labor increases
[1:18:15] due
[1:18:18] to cola and step and
[1:18:20] merit increases, unfunded liabilities
[1:18:23] which are said to continue ramping
[1:18:24] up
[1:18:27] starting this fiscal year over the
[1:18:29] next 5 years as well as retiree health
[1:18:30] and
[1:18:31] of course one of our biggest cost
[1:18:33] drivers which is the general
[1:18:36] fund support to the marina
[1:18:39] which has continued to be a subsidy, year-over-year.
[1:18:42] on the revenue side
[1:18:44] as we have reported over a handful
[1:18:45] of years now
[1:18:48] expenses are just rising
[1:18:50] at a pace faster than revenue is increasing.
[1:18:54] so, there has been
[1:18:56] slowing revenue over the last couple
[1:18:57] of years, of
[1:18:59] course we know there's a lot of economic
[1:19:01] uncertainty now we are keeping track
[1:19:03] of so we have budgeted
[1:19:06] underperforming sales tax
[1:19:09] with reduced permit, we budgeted
[1:19:10] for reduced permit and inspection
[1:19:12] revenues although
[1:19:14] I think I have good news tonight about
[1:19:15] that, lower
[1:19:18] interest income
[1:19:19] and lower-than-expected franchise
[1:19:21] fees. So how did we deal with that
[1:19:23] when we were here in june trying to
[1:19:26] figure out how to close the $1.5 million gap?
[1:19:29] all of the departments came together and
[1:19:32] every single department submitted
[1:19:35] budget cuts, I want to remind you
[1:19:36] that there is
[1:19:38] no potential to restore the budget cuts,
[1:19:41] these are ongoing budget cuts that have
[1:19:44] to remain until we figure out more revenue.
[1:19:47] until we find more revenue so budget
[1:19:48] cuts what
[1:19:51] we did was we looked at
[1:19:53] 3 year trends across all city departments
[1:19:54] and
[1:19:57] we focused on making sure we could
[1:19:59] maintain baseline services or core services
[1:20:02] and anything that was nice to have
[1:20:03] that could
[1:20:06] be deferred is what we focused
[1:20:08] on reducing. So, in administration
[1:20:11] a lot of this was looking holistically
[1:20:14] at all departments were clean above supplies,
[1:20:17] meeting costs, training, we centralize costs
[1:20:21] to make it more efficient. We took
[1:20:23] a good look at part-time staff, even
[1:20:24] full-time staff when
[1:20:27] we were feeling the vacancies.
[1:20:30] we could achieve budget savings by
[1:20:35] filling a position later in the fiscal year,
[1:20:36] we opted to do that.
[1:20:37] as always we looked at consultants
[1:20:39] and really considered the minimum need
[1:20:42] for the city. So we
[1:20:44] did give up our emergency services contract
[1:20:47] that was under the police department.
[1:20:48] we
[1:20:51] gave up a planning consultant to defer
[1:20:54] short term housing
[1:20:57] and we reduced , for the reduced
[1:21:00] planning on call consultant
[1:21:03] within the planning department.
[1:21:06] we also eliminated private security
[1:21:09] at
[1:21:11] the homeless and this was a priority
[1:21:12] robust conversation
[1:21:15] we were dust maintenance
[1:21:20] but it was based on 3 year trends
[1:21:21] we felt good about. In
[1:21:23] light of these budget reductions we
[1:21:24] made if you recall
[1:21:27] we also increased we chose
[1:21:29] to increase city manager contingency budget
[1:21:32] up to 130,000 so the thought was if
[1:21:33] something came up, we
[1:21:36] have some wiggle room we can go to
[1:21:38] the city manager and request it for
[1:21:39] . So,
[1:21:42] a very quick progress report on current
[1:21:45] general fund, this always looks
[1:21:47] pretty stunning after the 1st quarter because
[1:21:50] we always have a lot more expenses
[1:21:51] than we do revenue
[1:21:54] so I want to caution how
[1:21:56] we look at the information. Early
[1:21:57] expenses come in right in july
[1:22:00] which is the
[1:22:02] up from pension and insurance payments,
[1:22:03] large lump-sum payments
[1:22:05] along with all the typical labor costs
[1:22:08] that happen in the 1st several months
[1:22:09] of the fiscal year. And
[1:22:12] then on the revenue side while we
[1:22:13] are collecting
[1:22:16] sales tax and franchise fees and
[1:22:19] cannabis fees
[1:22:21] are not collecting property tax. So
[1:22:22] we don't get property
[1:22:23] tax until later so that is why there
[1:22:25] is a significant
[1:22:27] imbalance. On the expenditure side
[1:22:28] I
[1:22:29] will give a quick highlight on some
[1:22:31] of the, how the
[1:22:34] department's are doing, but
[1:22:36] if you look at this slide here we are
[1:22:39] doing fine. We are 41% a budget, we
[1:22:40] don't see any
[1:22:42] red flags, as I mentioned up from
[1:22:46] we spent $7.6
[1:22:47] million toward insurance and pensions in
[1:22:49] july. Our
[1:22:51] operating expenses are tracking with
[1:22:52] budget. There has
[1:22:55] been no impact to core services
[1:22:58] and I was
[1:22:59] telling this to somebody earlier.
[1:23:01] since I have been
[1:23:02] here this is the 1st quarter where
[1:23:04] we have
[1:23:06] not had an emergency. So in the past
[1:23:07] we had
[1:23:10] a mercury spill or the incident
[1:23:12] that occurred where we needed to run high
[1:23:16] on police overtime or
[1:23:17] help with certain department expenses
[1:23:21] and we are tracking just well for once
[1:23:22] , so we're
[1:23:23] happy to hear that. Let me explain
[1:23:25] briefly because
[1:23:28] these items came up in
[1:23:29] the budget process, repair and maintenance,
[1:23:31] we have 52%
[1:23:34] that has been spent
[1:23:38] overall, so far. About $3.2 million
[1:23:40] repair maintenance budget across the city.
[1:23:43] namely what we
[1:23:44] are tracking if there's anything high
[1:23:46] it is
[1:23:49] utilities across the city that
[1:23:51] we have seen that might come in a
[1:23:52] little over budget.'s we will track
[1:23:54] for the midyear and if we have to
[1:23:55] make changes
[1:23:58] down the road we will. I did talk
[1:24:01] to our superintendent and I asked
[1:24:04] his subjective opinion on how
[1:24:07] things are going and again with
[1:24:09] no unforeseen issues that have popped up
[1:24:12] but we know it is early and inclement
[1:24:13] weather
[1:24:15] is coming and that is usually where
[1:24:16] his crew starts to
[1:24:19] see the
[1:24:20] unbudgeted and unplanned expenses
[1:24:22] pop up due to
[1:24:25] rain or any other sort of inclement
[1:24:28] weather. Also,
[1:24:30] the pool is something most expenses
[1:24:31] occurred or significant
[1:24:33] portion occurred over the summer.
[1:24:37] that is tracking the budget.
[1:24:39] we expect to be on target and then
[1:24:42] lastly I will mention the city manager
[1:24:43] contingency
[1:24:45] which I said we bolstered we have
[1:24:49] only spent 2500 of that contingency fund
[1:24:51] so everything is looking very good.
[1:24:55] on the
[1:24:58] revenue side, we are 10% of budget
[1:24:59] at
[1:25:01] this point. We
[1:25:04] are sales tax and measure x
[1:25:06] is tracking on target we budgeted
[1:25:07] $9.8 million for the
[1:25:10] whole fiscal year. So far we
[1:25:13] have received $2.1 million.
[1:25:14] mentioned earlier property tax will
[1:25:16] come later. One of the
[1:25:19] , one of the benefits
[1:25:20] that I have seen digging into the
[1:25:22] data as our permit
[1:25:25] and fees which we thought would
[1:25:28] be slowing or low is actually doing
[1:25:30] pretty well so we are ahead of the budget
[1:25:31] on
[1:25:34] permit fees
[1:25:36] and one of the things that jill told
[1:25:37] me could be the reason
[1:25:38] was we have had several significant
[1:25:40] tenant improvement
[1:25:42] projects come through, increased activity
[1:25:43] at
[1:25:44] the refineries with recent submission
[1:25:46] of the river house
[1:25:49] of the housing application which again
[1:25:52] is a pretty significant
[1:25:55] permit fee to be processed
[1:25:56] with 94 additional building permits
[1:25:57] received for the same timeframe than
[1:25:58] last year
[1:26:01] compared to last year.
[1:26:04] >> can I interrupt?
[1:26:07] you said activities at the
[1:26:10] refineries are we talking about because
[1:26:13] the refinery is not in
[1:26:15] the city so we don't get any permit
[1:26:16] fees or
[1:26:19] anything.
[1:26:20] >> a small portion
[1:26:21] of the refinery that does come to
[1:26:22] us with permits.
[1:26:23] >>
[1:26:25] is that what happened last year? We're
[1:26:26] talking
[1:26:28] about the other ones?
[1:26:29] >> this year.
[1:26:31] it would be.
[1:26:34] >> okay I know we will dig
[1:26:37] into the marina a
[1:26:39] little more robustly next. I want
[1:26:40] to note
[1:26:43] we had budgeted $560,000
[1:26:46] to be on loan from the general fund
[1:26:47] to the
[1:26:49] marina fund.
[1:26:52] so far we are at $126,000 or just
[1:26:55] over. That is lower than what
[1:26:57] we budgeted and the reason for that
[1:26:58] is because
[1:27:01] early on in the fiscal year
[1:27:03] f3 was fully staffed so they were
[1:27:04] not operating with
[1:27:07] the budget provided with the number
[1:27:10] of staff. I think it is 3 or 4 people
[1:27:11] in total
[1:27:13] so we do expect
[1:27:15] those expenses to go up. Revenue collected
[1:27:16] over there
[1:27:19] is $90,000,
[1:27:22] expenditures have been $117,000.
[1:27:25] total expenditures at 57% of
[1:27:28] the budget and it is primarily
[1:27:31] due to the labor cost savings as I
[1:27:32] mentioned.
[1:27:34] the net loss is 27,000 now so we
[1:27:37] will continue to track.
[1:27:39] it is early but if we can come in
[1:27:40] under budget on 560,000 we
[1:27:43] will be happy with that.
[1:27:46] and before turnover to joe
[1:27:49] a quick reminder we adopted the 5 year
[1:27:53] cip at the same time as
[1:27:56] the budget.
[1:27:57] one small amendment made to the cip
[1:27:59] when we adopted it where we
[1:28:00] shifted $50,000 from the downtown plaza
[1:28:05] to the centennial project.
[1:28:07] and then one item I want to mention
[1:28:10] coming up midyear we don't have to
[1:28:14] flush it out tonight, but since
[1:28:16] we do have a waterfront revitalization
[1:28:17] project
[1:28:19] underway which is exploring the amphitheater
[1:28:24] and obviously adding robust activity in
[1:28:26] the area including
[1:28:28] entertainment and retail we are recommending
[1:28:33] an amendment midyear regarding the
[1:28:35] waterfront stage so
[1:28:38] this is the
[1:28:39] budget we have been partnering with
[1:28:41] kiwanis on.
[1:28:43] and a to have a personal conversation
[1:28:44] about this
[1:28:46] it is not make logical sense to build
[1:28:47] a waterfront stage
[1:28:49] when we have a whole project being built
[1:28:53] so what we have
[1:28:55] committed to in the spirit of them
[1:28:57] wanting to partner with us on a project
[1:28:59] will go back
[1:29:02] to the drawing board with them
[1:29:04] in a future discussion to see what
[1:29:05] we can collaborate
[1:29:08] on so I will turn it over
[1:29:11] to joe.
[1:29:14] >> yes. Good evening.
[1:29:17] a quick update
[1:29:18] on some of these completed projects.
[1:29:23] when we started listing them it
[1:29:26] became quite a list and covered all phases
[1:29:28] , some highlights were definitely
[1:29:32] the fishing pier long
[1:29:34] awaited with the ribbon-cutting a
[1:29:35] few
[1:29:37] weeks ago. It had been packed almost
[1:29:40] every day from what I have heard.
[1:29:43] the other one I wanted to highlight
[1:29:44] was
[1:29:47] the hydrant maintenance, we serviced
[1:29:50] nearly 1000 fire hydrants
[1:29:53] to confirm that they were
[1:29:56] flowing and functional.
[1:29:59] we did find I believe 3
[1:30:02] that were out of service
[1:30:04] for a couple of reasons typically
[1:30:08] they had been repaired and the valve
[1:30:11] had been reopened.
[1:30:17] if you have been anywhere
[1:30:19] downtown we have completed a huge
[1:30:20] amount of paving,
[1:30:23] alhambra avenue paging.
[1:30:26] we are wrapping up the
[1:30:29] zone 3, the downtown paving
[1:30:32] with a lot of downtown the final
[1:30:35] pieces remaining is striping
[1:30:38] probably about 4 days left
[1:30:41] of striping.
[1:30:44] the zone 3 is
[1:30:47] , or zone 4
[1:30:50] is in design and zone 2
[1:30:53] was completed last summer.
[1:30:56] sidewalk projects , you know we did
[1:30:59] the accessibility curb ramps,
[1:31:01] updated the reimbursement program.
[1:31:05] shaving program which we completed
[1:31:07] last year over 900 locations shaped
[1:31:11] and we are about to go out with another project
[1:31:13] and there will be more significant
[1:31:14] this spring.
[1:31:17] sidewalks with
[1:31:20] the gap closure.
[1:31:23] we touched on facilities
[1:31:25] city hall improvements, the roof is completed.
[1:31:32] parks , last year both
[1:31:35] sports courts and the
[1:31:37] grand opening of pine meadows park
[1:31:44] with water, water projects had
[1:31:45] extensive water main replacement administered
[1:31:47] to the
[1:31:50] fire hydrants. We
[1:31:51] are about to start construction on
[1:31:53] the next water main project and we
[1:31:54] are wrapping
[1:31:56] up a pump station project
[1:31:59] and then if you have been in
[1:32:01] the downtown the last couple days
[1:32:02] we have finally started
[1:32:05] the long awaited infill
[1:32:08] on parking lot 4. Started
[1:32:11] on monday, depending on the
[1:32:14] weather, they might possibly be completed
[1:32:17] before thanksgiving.
[1:32:20] we
[1:32:23] are close to wrapping up the design phase
[1:32:26] on the parking meter and destination
[1:32:29] sign program
[1:32:34] and we are ready to place the order
[1:32:35] for the downtown bike racks as
[1:32:38] well. So it is moving forward
[1:32:41] I think those were the
[1:32:44] some of the main highlights.
[1:32:47] one of the ones
[1:32:49] we wanted to point out was phase 1
[1:32:50] street trees
[1:32:53] the 150 trees. Unless
[1:32:56] we get weeks of weather
[1:32:59] our contractor
[1:33:01] assures us he can have those completed
[1:33:02] by the end of
[1:33:05] the year.
[1:33:06] >> great.
[1:33:14] >> I know
[1:33:16] we have bounced back and forth but
[1:33:17] I believe it
[1:33:20] was 30 ,
[1:33:23] 32, yes.
[1:33:26] >>
[1:33:28] I did not hear you say amtrak elevator,
[1:33:29] but I can see it.
[1:33:30] >>
[1:33:32] I was about to say that is under design
[1:33:33] right
[1:33:35] now and so we have
[1:33:38] a contractor, he has looked at it.
[1:33:41] he has a plan for that
[1:33:43] and we are coordinating security improvements.
[1:33:44] with
[1:33:47] the capital corridor amtrak improvements.
[1:33:50] they have completed
[1:33:53] their bid package and their scheduled
[1:33:56] to go to coverage by next spring.
[1:34:00] >> so, the construction
[1:34:03] to clarify , so the
[1:34:04] amtrak elevator is on us, security
[1:34:06] is on
[1:34:09] them and when
[1:34:10] security improvements are made we
[1:34:12] can move forward.
[1:34:15] >> correct. We are going to do
[1:34:17] some additional security and hardening improvements
[1:34:21] that would be on the city
[1:34:24] to secure some of the , the
[1:34:27] heating and
[1:34:28] ventilation equipment on the platform
[1:34:30] and then some
[1:34:33] of the ,
[1:34:35] securing those so they are not hiding
[1:34:36] in
[1:34:39] hiding spots and then
[1:34:42] lastly one
[1:34:45] of our strategic projects and
[1:34:47] for the 150th our park master plan
[1:34:51] not necessarily cip per se
[1:34:54] but it is one of the key projects and
[1:34:56] you know we are probably one month
[1:35:00] into that . I
[1:35:01] think we had our 4th project team
[1:35:03] meeting
[1:35:06] last week , lauren gave a
[1:35:08] pretty complete update on that last week
[1:35:11] but we will be kicking off a robust
[1:35:12] public
[1:35:14] engagement process right after the
[1:35:18] 1st of the year.
[1:35:22] >> so just to conclude, next steps 2026
[1:35:24] back to
[1:35:27] budget season for us. January,
[1:35:29] we will be scheduling a budget and
[1:35:32] finance subcommittee meeting. We will
[1:35:33] be
[1:35:36] bringing the
[1:35:37] midyear budget to the finance subcommittee
[1:35:39] before going to city council.
[1:35:41] we will be kicking off fiscal year
[1:35:42] 26-27 budget
[1:35:45] development process that
[1:35:46] happens largely at the staff level
[1:35:48] initially before
[1:35:50] we bring conversations to the council.
[1:35:51] in february we will
[1:35:54] bring midyear budget
[1:35:56] and then we will bring the cip amendment
[1:35:57] we spoke about.
[1:35:59] in march we will be a little earlier
[1:36:00] but at least by march bringing the
[1:36:03] recreation fee update, so
[1:36:05] debbie hernandez is working now on
[1:36:06] that
[1:36:08] and they are studying all of the various
[1:36:09] user fees
[1:36:12] so they will bring
[1:36:14] recommendation to you on that. April is
[1:36:15] when we typically
[1:36:18] bring the broad city administrative fees
[1:36:21] that we bring annually.
[1:36:24] in april we will have
[1:36:26] a study session, we will update the
[1:36:27] long-range forecast
[1:36:32] and we will want to talk with council
[1:36:33] on fiscal sustainability measures.
[1:36:34] we
[1:36:36] have spoke , we focus a lot on expenditures
[1:36:39] over the last few years pretty much
[1:36:40] we
[1:36:41] have been taking a chopping block
[1:36:45] to a lot of city services and we have
[1:36:47] cut millions out of the budget, but
[1:36:50] we still have no revenue coming in
[1:36:51] so we
[1:36:53] really have to sit down and figure
[1:36:57] that problem out. So june and I were
[1:36:58] talking
[1:36:59] about this today putting a study session together
[1:37:02] to look at all the options on the
[1:37:03] table and get a
[1:37:05] sense from the council where you want
[1:37:06] us to further pursue.
[1:37:11] look forward to that, in may we will
[1:37:12] have the fiscal
[1:37:14] year 26-27 budget workshop and june
[1:37:15] is the adoption. That
[1:37:18] concludes our presentation.
[1:37:19] >>
[1:37:21] thank you so much for the presentation.
[1:37:23] the action tonight was to provide
[1:37:24] input and hold
[1:37:27] discussion. Any specific item that
[1:37:29] you would like guidance on or any
[1:37:30] feedback on a
[1:37:33] particular portion?
[1:37:34] >>
[1:37:36] so, I think this is more
[1:37:39] of a informational update,
[1:37:42] if you have questions we are happy to
[1:37:44] take them but there is no specific
[1:37:45] area. We are tracking well
[1:37:48] to budget now with no concerns.
[1:37:49] >>
[1:37:51] the only question I have was in
[1:37:54] the staff report talking about park
[1:37:55] maintenance because
[1:37:56] I remember the discussion we have lumped
[1:38:00] the park maintenance budget reduction
[1:38:01] under the city
[1:38:03] manager contingency fund. It read
[1:38:04] in
[1:38:05] the staff report we have reduced park
[1:38:06] maintenance
[1:38:09] so can you clarify if that
[1:38:12] reduction is people related
[1:38:15] and action related or
[1:38:18] things?
[1:38:19] >> things,
[1:38:21] we assumed this
[1:38:23] budget assumes all positions filled
[1:38:24] whether it is
[1:38:27] in any department. So it is more
[1:38:30] you know equipment or
[1:38:35] a fence falls over and we need to
[1:38:36] rebuild the fence things
[1:38:39] like that, arborists, tree related things
[1:38:41] and we are pretty, we feel pretty
[1:38:42] good right now that we
[1:38:45] have enough budget to deal with those issues.
[1:38:49] >> great, thank you. >>
[1:38:52] yeah, just
[1:38:54] more of a comment, I really appreciate staff's
[1:38:58] fiscal responsibility.
[1:39:00] you all are doing everything that
[1:39:01] you
[1:39:04] can, given our
[1:39:07] tight budget. This is just more
[1:39:10] of a comment.
[1:39:11] we need to continue to be mindful
[1:39:13] of impacts
[1:39:16] that can trickle down
[1:39:19] , the federal level .
[1:39:22] I know today it
[1:39:24] was just announced and california
[1:39:25] is
[1:39:26] forecasting instead of a $13 billion
[1:39:28] budget deficit
[1:39:31] for next fiscal year, an
[1:39:34] $18 billion budget
[1:39:36] deficit and we know when there is a
[1:39:37] deficit,
[1:39:40] that means more cuts. On
[1:39:42] state programs so we just need to
[1:39:43] be
[1:39:46] mindful because it always has a
[1:39:48] trickle-down approach. So, there are
[1:39:52] a lot of moving parts that are somewhat
[1:39:55] out of our control
[1:39:57] at the state and federal level so
[1:39:58] we need to
[1:40:01] be vigilant and stay close
[1:40:03] to see how some of these things happening
[1:40:04] above our
[1:40:05] head are going to impact us locally.
[1:40:07] great job
[1:40:10] .
[1:40:16] >> I have a question for joe.
[1:40:19] you mentioned
[1:40:22] the hydrant project we have.
[1:40:24] so come early on I think people talked
[1:40:25] about
[1:40:28] the hydrant project
[1:40:29] checking the hydrants could cause
[1:40:31] pressure changes and water leaks.
[1:40:33] have we experienced anything like
[1:40:34] that with
[1:40:36] hydrant checks we have been doing
[1:40:39] as part of the project?
[1:40:40] >> I think
[1:40:41] there is
[1:40:42] a couple complaints of discolored water
[1:40:46] , but it was pretty limited. Actually
[1:40:49] it went pretty smoothly.
[1:40:52] all the way around.
[1:40:53] >>
[1:40:55] okay great to hear. 1
[1:40:58] other question. This is not
[1:41:01] necessarily related, it is related
[1:41:03] to paving. I've got comments about paving
[1:41:06] I don't think it was paving on ramps
[1:41:07] to
[1:41:10] highway 4 with that be caltrans?
[1:41:12] >> that is a caltrans project. Long
[1:41:16] and ongoing. Disruptive.
[1:41:19] >> okay I did not
[1:41:22] think it was us, but
[1:41:23] the striping delay has caused people
[1:41:25] a lot of confusion on and off the
[1:41:27] highway. The ramps are not striped
[1:41:30] and it is difficult to know how to
[1:41:31] navigate that
[1:41:34] especially at night and it is dangerous
[1:41:35] and
[1:41:37] I have had some residents talk
[1:41:40] about that thinking the city is responsible.
[1:41:43] I don't know
[1:41:44] if the ramps have been striped already.
[1:41:46] I did experience it too
[1:41:49] so if there is any
[1:41:51] way to speak with them about maybe
[1:41:52] more timely
[1:41:55] striping because it
[1:41:56] is a danger to the residence driving
[1:41:58] in the evening.
[1:41:59] >> we
[1:42:01] can relay those concerns.
[1:42:03] some of the off ramp lower portions
[1:42:04] have the final
[1:42:07] paving have not been striped
[1:42:09] , but as of last week they were put
[1:42:10] in the final layer
[1:42:13] of asphalt on the outside
[1:42:15] lanes and striping would be subsequent
[1:42:16] to that
[1:42:19] in the clear weather.
[1:42:22] >> thank you, if you can relay
[1:42:24] comments to them to try to do this
[1:42:28] more quickly it could cause accidents.
[1:42:31] it may have already caused
[1:42:33] an accident I'm not sure but people
[1:42:34] have been frightened to drive
[1:42:37] on and off the highway in the evening
[1:42:38] >>
[1:42:40] speaking of striping there is a handful
[1:42:43] of downtown paving areas not striped
[1:42:46] and I reached out to you and you
[1:42:49] said in the next couple of weeks
[1:42:52] pending the rain?
[1:42:53] >> we think there is
[1:42:55] 3 or 4 days left of striping.
[1:42:58] in the clear weather.
[1:43:01] >> great, better than I
[1:43:04] was thinking.
[1:43:05] >> yeah,
[1:43:07] I echo
[1:43:10] those comments and
[1:43:12] I will speak a little bit more about
[1:43:13] that at the end of
[1:43:16] tonight's meeting. To piggyback
[1:43:19] off of what greg said, thank you
[1:43:22] this is very helpful. I think
[1:43:25] it underscores the work that is
[1:43:26] already been undertaken with work
[1:43:28] that is before us.
[1:43:31] appreciate the opportunity to
[1:43:34] provide additional input at the
[1:43:37] appropriate time but everything
[1:43:40] greg says , spot on.
[1:43:42] certain things are within our purview, but
[1:43:46] there's a lot of things not within
[1:43:47] our purview,
[1:43:49] independent factors. Just
[1:43:51] like everybody has household budgets
[1:43:52] there are things you
[1:43:54] can manage and some things you are
[1:43:55] not able to manage and the city is
[1:43:58] no different. So we have got to focus
[1:44:01] on what we can manage. Also
[1:44:04] be able to prepare for some of the
[1:44:05] things that
[1:44:07] might be on the horizon.
[1:44:10] federal economic indicators give
[1:44:13] me a lot of pause and
[1:44:16] then to
[1:44:19] greg's point in terms of the headwinds
[1:44:20] that the
[1:44:21] state is continuing to face as well that
[1:44:22] is all going to have
[1:44:25] impacts on municipalities such as ours
[1:44:28] . To bring it more local
[1:44:31] it really underscores the pressing
[1:44:34] need for us to be able to identify
[1:44:35] the revenue.
[1:44:38] so from my standpoint
[1:44:41] I think oftentimes we
[1:44:43] have seen other jurisdictions there
[1:44:44] has been a
[1:44:46] quick pivot to let's just ask residents
[1:44:52] to pony up more. They go through it
[1:44:53] 2 years later and
[1:44:54] say pony up some more and it is a
[1:44:56] never ending cycle and am
[1:44:57] grateful that has not been a practice
[1:44:59] of this city at
[1:45:01] least historically and of the recent council
[1:45:05] and debbie is the
[1:45:07] veteran here. And I really appreciate
[1:45:08] the
[1:45:11] fact that you know we have had a
[1:45:14] fiscally conservative approach
[1:45:17] and are trying to continue to do that,
[1:45:18] but I think it really underscores
[1:45:20] the importance of the discussion
[1:45:22] we are having and we will continue
[1:45:23] to have certainly
[1:45:25] with the community in terms of where
[1:45:26] opportunities
[1:45:28] are to help bring us that revenue.
[1:45:32] so, those are just my thoughts.
[1:45:35] thank you very much.
[1:45:38] >>
[1:45:41] thank you for the update I think
[1:45:44] it is wonderful we have not had
[1:45:46] any big things happen to us. So far.
[1:45:50] winter is coming, so
[1:45:53] I appreciate your hard work.
[1:45:56] >>
[1:45:58] all right I'm going to open up to
[1:45:59] public
[1:46:00] comment. Anyone in the council chambers
[1:46:02] want to provide?
[1:46:05] go ahead, kevin.
[1:46:13] >> kevin, you know we are on the cip
[1:46:16] budget not the marine item, you know
[1:46:17] we
[1:46:20] are on cip not the marina?
[1:46:25] I will call on you when we get to
[1:46:26] the item.
[1:46:29] so sorry. Anyone else on
[1:46:32] the cip and the
[1:46:37] budget update item? He has got flyers.
[1:46:41] this is important. Anyone
[1:46:42] in the virtual audience want to provide
[1:46:44] comment on the cip project list?
[1:46:47] >> please use the race
[1:46:50] hand feature.
[1:46:53] >> I have no
[1:46:55] hands.
[1:46:56] >> thank you for the update,
[1:46:57] since
[1:46:59] there is nothing to vote on
[1:47:02] it was a good conversation thank you.
[1:47:03] moving
[1:47:04] on public hearing item 18. Conduct
[1:47:05] public hearing
[1:47:07] and adopt resolution amending the
[1:47:08] marina fee schedule
[1:47:11] related to mooring utility and
[1:47:13] fees. Who will be presenting tonight?
[1:47:17] jill? Go ahead.
[1:47:18] >>
[1:47:20] put the presentation on.
[1:47:38] great.
[1:47:41] are you walking out?
[1:47:44] okay.
[1:47:49] thank you mayor and council members.
[1:47:50] tonight we are here
[1:47:53] to discuss the
[1:47:54] marina fee schedule and recommendation
[1:47:56] to adopt resolution amending
[1:47:58] the marina fee schedule related to
[1:47:59] mooring
[1:48:02] utilities and liver board fees.
[1:48:05] a brief update how this
[1:48:08] particular item aligns with strategic plan
[1:48:11] and
[1:48:13] that is under the goal of fiscal sustainability
[1:48:14] promoting financial health
[1:48:16] through long-term planning responsible
[1:48:17] budgeting,
[1:48:19] cost recovery which is what we are
[1:48:20] here tonight
[1:48:23] and increased
[1:48:25] awareness. To provide a little background,
[1:48:26] in october awareness. To provide a
[1:48:27] little background, in
[1:48:28] october 2024, the staff brought forward
[1:48:31] the similar item to have a discussion
[1:48:32] about increasing the fees
[1:48:34] after our marina operator had left
[1:48:38] and we were in the process of taking over
[1:48:39] the
[1:48:40] marina. It was identified the fees
[1:48:41] were not
[1:48:44] demonstrated full cost recovery
[1:48:46] or getting close to cost recovery
[1:48:50] at the time council
[1:48:52] provided direction so after hearing
[1:48:53] from the community
[1:48:56] they wanted to wait
[1:48:57] until improvements had been made to
[1:48:59] the marina as well as
[1:49:01] having staff research a little bit
[1:49:02] further about a
[1:49:05] water leak as to why we're using so
[1:49:08] much water at the time.
[1:49:10] since then the water leak has been
[1:49:11] resolved, this was
[1:49:14] a main underneath the ramp
[1:49:16] that has been corrected and fixed.
[1:49:17] as
[1:49:20] well as the city, in january the city,
[1:49:21] in january
[1:49:23] 2025 brought on f3, to manage
[1:49:26] the marina. Since they have arrived
[1:49:27] they
[1:49:29] have done incredible amount of improvements
[1:49:32] and enhancements.
[1:49:34] everything related to safety lighting
[1:49:35] security, painting, they
[1:49:37] have done a lot of repairs to docs,
[1:49:38] building ramps
[1:49:40] to get infrastructure out of the water
[1:49:41] so boaters
[1:49:44] can get to the vessels during the
[1:49:45] day
[1:49:47] related to the tides moving up and
[1:49:48] down as well
[1:49:49] as overall operational managements
[1:49:53] and maintenance and so forth.
[1:49:56] october of this year
[1:49:58] we brought this item to the marina
[1:49:59] and waterfront
[1:50:02] subcommittee and had a hearty discussion
[1:50:05] which we will talk about. Additionally
[1:50:08] following off the previous presentation
[1:50:11] , the marina has long-standing
[1:50:16] deficits because we talked about the
[1:50:17] $560,000 loan that was made and
[1:50:20] it is projected we may
[1:50:23] be around 650
[1:50:26] in loans moving forward creating a compromise
[1:50:29] on the city's future reserves.
[1:50:32] at this time I will turn
[1:50:34] it over to talk a little bit more
[1:50:35] about the
[1:50:38] financial aspect.
[1:50:39] >> sure,
[1:50:41] so what is
[1:50:43] up on the screen is the long-range
[1:50:44] forecast done
[1:50:47] in may or june of the last year and
[1:50:48] this
[1:50:50] scenario assumes an ongoing
[1:50:52] subsidy from the general fund, to
[1:50:53] the marina.
[1:50:56] on an ongoing basis, something
[1:50:59] we have decided to do
[1:51:01] as a council and city organization
[1:51:04] is start planning for the next 5 to
[1:51:05] 10 years making sure
[1:51:07] we are being responsible today and understanding
[1:51:10] what the long-term liabilities are
[1:51:15] on the city's general funds
[1:51:16] so this is what the picture depicts
[1:51:18] for your. As mentioned, the
[1:51:20] marina enterprise fund has had a long-standing
[1:51:23] structural deficit. We brought on
[1:51:25] f3, they have done a fabulous job
[1:51:27] from everything we have heard
[1:51:30] and seen, but now we
[1:51:31] are paying for that, things are getting
[1:51:33] fixed. We have more employees at
[1:51:36] the marina. Like
[1:51:37] I said earlier we are coming under
[1:51:39] budget right now
[1:51:41] but it is something we assume is going
[1:51:42] to continue
[1:51:44] to be of high cost on the city. Since
[1:51:45] fiscal
[1:51:48] year 21 -22 the general fund
[1:51:50] , there has been $2 million general
[1:51:51] fund
[1:51:53] reserves spent toward the marina 's
[1:51:54] we
[1:51:55] are trying to be careful. We want
[1:51:57] to meet
[1:51:59] the reserve target, we are nervous
[1:52:00] about the next
[1:52:03] few years so in order to sort of maintain
[1:52:05] status quo with the subsidy to the marina,
[1:52:09] which includes the
[1:52:11] loan to the state, the utility cost and
[1:52:14] f3 operation costs we are looking at
[1:52:18] needing $1.2 million
[1:52:20] in a new ongoing budget with budget cuts
[1:52:24] over the next few years
[1:52:26] phased in over the next few years.
[1:52:27] always
[1:52:29] trying to keep your eyes on that and
[1:52:30] again it
[1:52:33] comes down to it is cutting into our
[1:52:36] core services as a city
[1:52:39] and that is why it is critical,
[1:52:40] jill is bringing forward a proposal
[1:52:42] tonight to modestly
[1:52:45] fill the gap a little bit.
[1:52:51] >>
[1:52:52] all right, again with the fee schedule
[1:52:54] the goal is to reduce dependency on
[1:52:56] the general fund, in research we have discovered
[1:52:57] the last
[1:53:00] fee increase was in 2014
[1:53:02] and as you know the cost of operations
[1:53:04] have dramatically increased since
[1:53:06] that time. As well as with
[1:53:09] f3 coming on and
[1:53:10] permits being made everything from
[1:53:11] lumber and labor has all increased.
[1:53:15] when looking at the methodology
[1:53:17] of what's the best way of doing this
[1:53:18] we looked to
[1:53:19] our partners in some of the other
[1:53:21] regional markets with
[1:53:24] comparisons and
[1:53:26] a lot of the increases are based on
[1:53:27] consumer price
[1:53:29] index and when we are talking about tonight
[1:53:32] is the consumer price index for inflation
[1:53:33] for the bay area region
[1:53:36] as well
[1:53:39] as we received information
[1:53:40] from the bureau of labor statistics
[1:53:42] and pg&e data with
[1:53:45] utility rates and we did a market
[1:53:46] analysis
[1:53:48] with some of the similar
[1:53:51] marinas
[1:53:53] in the area comparable to us and that
[1:53:54] would be monisha, vallejo, pittsburgh
[1:53:55] and
[1:53:56] antioch. That also to touch upon it
[1:54:00] , several of those also have
[1:54:03] wooden docs similar to ours so we
[1:54:06] were only pulling those forward
[1:54:08] not necessarily the nice concrete or
[1:54:11] covered structures. Some of the marinas
[1:54:12] have expensive rates
[1:54:14] as well. Even with the comparison
[1:54:15] you
[1:54:18] will see in the attachment
[1:54:20] martinez has the lowest rates and
[1:54:21] one of the things
[1:54:23] of the follow-up the subcommittee
[1:54:24] wanted to do was to
[1:54:26] find out when jurisdictions had their
[1:54:27] last increases so
[1:54:30] we went back and they did increase
[1:54:33] in 2025,
[1:54:35] vallejo 2023, pittsburgh 2025 and antioch
[1:54:39] in 2023. To give you an idea
[1:54:41] where they are with the rates that are
[1:54:42] relatively recent
[1:54:45] . So, tonight
[1:54:48] as part of the fee schedule in
[1:54:51] exhibit a there's
[1:54:53] a lot of fees associated with the
[1:54:54] marina, tonight we
[1:54:56] are asking for increases for the 3 fees
[1:54:57] the
[1:54:59] morning fee, the vessel and the monthly rate
[1:55:03] the utility fee which is electricity
[1:55:06] and gas provided by the marina
[1:55:09] it does not include water because
[1:55:11] we never had a water rate listed and
[1:55:12] then the
[1:55:15] fee which is the surcharge for the boaters
[1:55:18] permitted to remain on their vessels
[1:55:19] longer than
[1:55:20] 72 hours with 72 hour restriction.
[1:55:21] we will start
[1:55:24] with the mooring fees again proposed
[1:55:27] based on cpi index. Local
[1:55:30] marina market and best practice of
[1:55:31] what other
[1:55:33] marinas are doing and
[1:55:34] our recommendation is to align the
[1:55:36] fee with cumulative
[1:55:39] cpi from 2014 to 2025
[1:55:42] which is 40.69%.
[1:55:45] very straightforward methodology and improves
[1:55:46] the
[1:55:48] overall enterprise ,
[1:55:50] the marina enterprise financial position.
[1:55:51] competitive with other marinas
[1:55:54] but far below the average and we're still
[1:55:57] getting toward the lower end.
[1:56:00] implementation for the fee the
[1:56:02] recommendation that was to the subcommittee
[1:56:03] and I will go back when I
[1:56:06] get to the end I will tell you what
[1:56:09] the recommendation was. We provided
[1:56:10] 2 options do
[1:56:12] we implement all at once or look at
[1:56:15] the phase in model over 2 years which
[1:56:17] is what we do with some of the other
[1:56:18] fees especially administrative
[1:56:21] fees restart was 75%
[1:56:24] 1st year and then 25% in the 2nd
[1:56:27] year on them.
[1:56:30] so, this particular attachment is
[1:56:32] a little different from the one in
[1:56:33] the staff report
[1:56:36] this is what we presented showing
[1:56:38] you an idea of what it would look like if
[1:56:40] we did 75/25.
[1:56:43] one of the things I
[1:56:44] want to point out is the ones that
[1:56:46] are color-coded, those
[1:56:49] are actually the vessels at the
[1:56:50] marina currently. While we have rates
[1:56:52] going from 20 foot
[1:56:55] all the way to 70
[1:56:58] foot slips, because of the
[1:56:59] marina being downsized, losing docs
[1:57:01] and so forth
[1:57:03] the primary vessel slips are 30, 35 and
[1:57:07] 45 with just one , 60 being
[1:57:10] occupied. That gives you an idea
[1:57:11] of where the main increase will affect those
[1:57:13] that
[1:57:15] have boats at the marina. If you look
[1:57:20] or actually the other thing I want
[1:57:22] to point out
[1:57:23] is the dry storage comparison. A lot
[1:57:25] of times
[1:57:27] it is more of a luxury to have your
[1:57:28] boat in the marina
[1:57:31] to get on and go so
[1:57:32] if you look at the dry storage comparison
[1:57:34] which is more
[1:57:36] of a process to get your boat to the
[1:57:37] water that is averaging
[1:57:39] from 200 to 300 for the uncovered storage.
[1:57:43] and
[1:57:44] then again as I mentioned, the antioch,
[1:57:46] pittsburgh and
[1:57:49] vallejo rates are covered
[1:57:52] because they do include , you know
[1:57:55] --
[1:58:30] the increase for the
[1:58:33] utility fee they felt made
[1:58:34] sense, understanding the need for
[1:58:36] the increase.
[1:58:39] I mean they understood there was a
[1:58:40] need
[1:58:41] and why. They did acknowledge the
[1:58:42] acknowledgment of
[1:58:44] improvements under
[1:58:46] f3 leadership and it was nice to hear the
[1:58:47] praise given to them
[1:58:48] by the voters that were out there.
[1:58:50] I did forget to
[1:58:53] mention jamie is on the line, he is sick
[1:58:55] he is here but with us online should
[1:58:57] we have questions that
[1:59:00] are asked.
[1:59:02] and then some of the comments were
[1:59:03] about some additional improvements
[1:59:05] they would like to see, comments about the
[1:59:06] pump out being
[1:59:09] replaced, the bathrooms, isolated
[1:59:10] incident at the bathrooms having issues
[1:59:12] with that corrected
[1:59:15] and locks have been updated as
[1:59:17] well as the water and
[1:59:19] electricity upgrades like there are
[1:59:20] things they will
[1:59:23] upgrade their. The pump out had a recent
[1:59:27] inspection of compliance and I
[1:59:28] don't recall the agency that is required
[1:59:30] it might be the health
[1:59:33] department and it did pass just fine.
[1:59:35] but we are looking at options that
[1:59:36] if we have the
[1:59:39] ability to improve that we
[1:59:41] will look at that as well in the future.
[1:59:45] again, complements
[1:59:47] about f3 and then you know there was understanding
[1:59:49] of additional funding to help close
[1:59:50] the gap a little bit.
[1:59:53] so, we went
[1:59:56] through forward subcommittee.
[1:59:58] the recommendation that they came
[2:00:01] back with
[2:00:02] --they felt like 40% was a big bite
[2:00:04] right off the bat and wanted to pass
[2:00:05] on this cost with the understanding
[2:00:06] of
[2:00:07] knowing that we had to look towards
[2:00:08] cost recovery and having to close
[2:00:09] the
[2:00:10] gap anyway we can. So they estimate
[2:00:11] --the recommendation that was passed
[2:00:12] forward to
[2:00:13] the council, they created option three,
[2:00:14] which is to look at
[2:00:20] 2026 of
[2:00:23] rolling in half of that increase
[2:00:25] in 2026 and half of that increase
[2:00:26] in 2027. For the utility fees, they
[2:00:27] agreed that doubling
[2:00:28] the cost made sense and adding the
[2:00:29] five dollars a month and
[2:00:31] they asked for the five dollars a
[2:00:32] month to be rolled into the fee
[2:00:34] itself. [ inaudible ] which is the
[2:00:35] standard practice that are some of
[2:00:36] the
[2:00:39] other marinas are also doing. As
[2:00:40] for the liveaboard fee, increasing
[2:00:42] that fee
[2:00:46] by $75 to 275. The implementation
[2:00:47] for the utility fee and liveaboard
[2:00:48] fee
[2:00:50] was recommended january 1st and then
[2:00:54] just the facts he would have a
[2:00:55] timeframe over two years. If you look
[2:00:57] at number one, it
[2:01:00] gives you an
[2:01:01] idea that by 2027, we should see an
[2:01:03] increase
[2:01:09] of 129,000.
[2:01:15] while that is a great increase
[2:01:16] based on what we talked about it doesn't necessarily
[2:01:18] get closer to that larger
[2:01:19] gap so we'll have to look at other
[2:01:21] things which we can do to either
[2:01:22] increase revenue or look at how our
[2:01:23] services are being offered. On that.
[2:01:24] so,
[2:01:25] with that, staff is available for
[2:01:27] any questions. And
[2:01:29] the council.
[2:01:30] >> thank you very much.
[2:01:31] does
[2:01:32] anyone want to start us off, and if
[2:01:33] not, can I have the folks that
[2:01:34] are in the marina subcommittee maybe
[2:01:36] just provide their
[2:01:39] input on the conversation I
[2:01:42] was had?
[2:01:48] >> yeah.
[2:01:51] I really appreciate your report
[2:01:52] and all the hard work and I appreciate
[2:01:53] all the stakeholders that came down
[2:01:54] to the
[2:01:55] subcommittee meeting and had their
[2:01:57] input. I think --can you tell me a
[2:01:58] little
[2:02:00] bit more about the bathrooms in
[2:02:05] the keys. [ inaudible -low volume
[2:02:06] ]
[2:02:07] >>
[2:02:08] there was an incident in which there
[2:02:09] was a key being used by
[2:02:10] a prior tenant, and they were not
[2:02:12] happy with the marina, so there was
[2:02:13] some damage that was done internally
[2:02:15] to the bathrooms and so it we ended
[2:02:18] up
[2:02:20] doing is f3 changed all the locks
[2:02:21] to have box as an
[2:02:24] interim solution until we do
[2:02:26] more research on whether it makes
[2:02:27] sense to re-key
[2:02:30] everything.
[2:02:31] >> [ inaudible ]
[2:02:35] >> it was about 6000 just to do regular
[2:02:36] heart keys and
[2:02:39] it was somewhere in the 20+ range
[2:02:41] if we were going to do key fobs. And
[2:02:42] given our track of moving
[2:02:48] forward with
[2:02:49] reyna revitalization discussions,
[2:02:51] we wanted to be mindful not to spend
[2:02:52] that kind of funding.
[2:02:53] >> and I really
[2:02:54] appreciate you putting up option three.
[2:02:55] in
[2:03:00] our conversation.
[2:03:02] >> given the situation with the bathrooms,
[2:03:03] has there been any additional
[2:03:05] incidents or are the keys working
[2:03:06] well? Do the residents feel
[2:03:09] like they
[2:03:12] have privacy
[2:03:30] --I'm just curious.
[2:03:32] >> it is a keypad box so it's not keys. They
[2:03:33] have a code that only
[2:03:34] the residents have. I've not heard
[2:03:35] of any incidents since that time.
[2:03:36] >> okay. That
[2:03:37] was my concern was, you know, we have
[2:03:39] a solution but has it actually solved
[2:03:40] the problem and made people feel safer
[2:03:41] when using the bathroom, especially
[2:03:42] after hours, and
[2:03:43] again, thank you for presenting the
[2:03:45] 50-50 rollout, as opposed to the 7525
[2:03:46] because
[2:03:47] jay and I both felt that was a little
[2:03:48] bit easier to transition these increases
[2:03:49] more gradually over the next two years.
[2:03:51] so.
[2:03:52] >> I think you spelled out
[2:03:54] all of
[2:03:57] the changes. That one slide
[2:03:59] --I think one or two back --if you
[2:04:00] want to push
[2:04:03] that back. Just one more
[2:04:06] forward. Yes. So
[2:04:09] I think that
[2:04:12] side represents some of
[2:04:13] the comments that we had, jay, and
[2:04:15] I think that kind of sums up
[2:04:20] our recommendations. So, that's all we
[2:04:21] have
[2:04:27] this year.
[2:04:32] >> and I stepped out at the very beginning.
[2:04:33] when I came in, I
[2:04:35] heard you were reporting out on the
[2:04:36] water fix, so thank you very much
[2:04:37] for that information. That was something
[2:04:39] and it was important for all of us.
[2:04:40] I
[2:04:41] think we were all here when this conversation
[2:04:42] happened last time. There was concern
[2:04:44] about passing on utility costs for
[2:04:45] water. When we had not yet resolved
[2:04:48] the
[2:04:51] water main
[2:05:00] leakage, so
[2:05:01] thank you for reporting out on that.
[2:05:03] I did ask earlier today about the
[2:05:04] cost difference,
[2:05:05] which was sort of the trigger for
[2:05:06] us realizing there was a leak. Did
[2:05:08] you have a chance to report out on
[2:05:09] that?
[2:05:10] >> I did not have a
[2:05:11] chance.
[2:05:12] >> would you mind? >> previously,
[2:05:13] we were paying a little over $16,000
[2:05:18] per month. Every other month
[2:05:20] now is down to about $850.
[2:05:21] >> that's
[2:05:22] great. That is --that is much
[2:05:23] more realistic. Just to clarify, the
[2:05:24] five dollars for
[2:05:29] the water is based on $850 a month.
[2:05:30] not the 16,000.
[2:05:31] >> yeah.
[2:05:32] and it still far below anything we
[2:05:33] would recover.
[2:05:34] >> I want to make
[2:05:36] a correction. $850 just
[2:05:39] for the
[2:05:42] meter --the leak. There's other
[2:05:43] meters out there.
[2:05:44] >> thank you. >>
[2:05:45] if you look
[2:05:51] at the
[2:06:00] --did we fix that in 2024? I think
[2:06:02] we did that or talked about the water
[2:06:03] at 82. We were over --we were
[2:06:05] up in the 140,000 --116,000 --something
[2:06:06] like that range. There's multiple
[2:06:07] water meters.
[2:06:08] great. Thank you. And just making
[2:06:09] sure. Those were my two questions
[2:06:10] then. Great.
[2:06:15] thank you. Any other comments? I know
[2:06:17] we have several folks hear from the
[2:06:18] public, and kevin has flyers so how
[2:06:20] about we start with kevin for public
[2:06:21] comment and anyone else who
[2:06:24] has comments can raise their
[2:06:26] hand.
[2:06:27] >> I just had a quick question
[2:06:28] as a point of clarification. In the
[2:06:30] staff report, it
[2:06:33] plays out
[2:06:52] --lays
[2:06:53] out --there's two options and then
[2:06:55] there was a third option so what
[2:06:56] am I missing?
[2:06:57] >> with the staff report,
[2:06:58] we wanted to talk about what we submitted
[2:06:59] to the subcommittee but our aggradation
[2:07:00] is what came out of the subcommittee
[2:07:01] which
[2:07:02] is the 50%. When you look at the attachments,
[2:07:03] attachment a shows the 50-50. The
[2:07:05] model. It shows you how much money
[2:07:06] will be collected and then we did
[2:07:07] that
[2:07:08] with the slide to show you what would
[2:07:10] be collected based on the two
[2:07:11] different areas. [ inaudible ]
[2:07:12] >>
[2:07:13] so option three that's listed on the
[2:07:14] slideshow
[2:07:16] came about after.
[2:07:17] >> it is
[2:07:18] a subcommittee that came up with option
[2:07:19] three. We came forward with the recommendation
[2:07:20] and they wanted to look at how we
[2:07:22] --is the delivery of the rates
[2:07:23] a little bit more? So that's where
[2:07:24] they came up with the recommendation
[2:07:25] for
[2:07:27] the council tonight. To go with the
[2:07:28] 50% instead of
[2:07:34] 75 25 . Were full. And
[2:07:37] this is the morning rate,
[2:07:38] so, yeah. The other two rates, they
[2:07:40] would like to be full
[2:07:43] in effect january 1st.
[2:07:44] >>
[2:07:46] okay. Got
[2:07:48] it. Okay. I'm going to reserve further
[2:07:49] comment until
[2:07:50] I've had an opportunity to hear from
[2:07:52] some of the stakeholders
[2:07:58] that have patiently waited to chime
[2:07:59] in, so thank you.
[2:08:00] >> okay. Now kevin
[2:08:01] can hand out those fires.
[2:08:04] I'm sorry.
[2:08:46] >> hi. My name is
[2:08:47] kevin bacon. I live on arlington street
[2:08:49] just down the road from here and
[2:08:52] also use the marina with
[2:08:54] a boat [ inaudible ] I just wanted
[2:08:55] to touch base
[2:08:58] on the narrative
[2:09:00] of the expense and the income generated
[2:09:01] by the
[2:09:04] marina by itself and so this is
[2:09:07] handed to you the 20 year income
[2:09:09] expense accounting produced by the
[2:09:10] city
[2:09:16] staff as pulled
[2:09:17] off of your website. It's from 2006.
[2:09:19] it ends
[2:09:22] around 2023, '24. It's the budget
[2:09:23] and it
[2:09:24] is pretty detailed. And it condensed
[2:09:25] down
[2:09:31] to just an expense and income on that
[2:09:34] first page. And this
[2:09:37] is in an effort to address the
[2:09:43] staff report goal b, strategy 2, engage
[2:09:46] the community about
[2:09:49] the marina's fiscal reality and
[2:09:50] its future. And the reality is that
[2:09:52] the budget shows near break
[2:09:55] even income
[2:09:58] to
[2:10:00] operational expenses. It's got nothing
[2:10:01] to do with the
[2:10:04] capital expenditures. But
[2:10:07] the marina operational expenses
[2:10:09] are conflated with the outlays of
[2:10:10] the
[2:10:12] enterprise fund. Staff writes, the
[2:10:13] city
[2:10:19] has used $1.7 million to cover marina
[2:10:20] needs.
[2:10:22] the message we hear is that
[2:10:25] the marina is costing us
[2:10:27] $1.7 million and I think jay was outraged when
[2:10:28] he heard that back
[2:10:31] in july
[2:10:34] and said we probably want to shut
[2:10:35] down the marina because of that. But
[2:10:37] that's not really the
[2:10:40] case. When you look
[2:10:43] at the --breaking down the
[2:10:46] $1.7 million, dredging project,
[2:10:49] $750,000. That's
[2:10:51] in the 1.7. That is a capital expenditure.
[2:10:54] that's not an operational expense.
[2:10:55] the water
[2:10:58] front
[2:11:00] trust --half $1 million. That is not
[2:11:01] an operational expense. That is a
[2:11:07] capital expenditure.
[2:11:10] design fees for the eastern wall,
[2:11:12] we don't know if that's been spent
[2:11:13] but that's $250,000. I don't think
[2:11:14] we
[2:11:15] spent that. Temporary repairs --the
[2:11:16] fishing pier --the fishing pier is
[2:11:19] not a marina. It's part of
[2:11:22] the enterprise fund, but that
[2:11:28] is not
[2:11:34] an operational expenditure. The funds set aside for
[2:11:35] entrance doc d,
[2:11:36] $60,000, that probably wasn't even
[2:11:37] spent. I don't think so. That was
[2:11:38] the gangway. So,
[2:11:40] in supplemental
[2:11:43] funding for the bates shore, $50,000.
[2:11:44] >>
[2:11:45] your time is up.
[2:11:46] >> so anyhow, that
[2:11:47] bait shop
[2:11:49] operation fund is --shouldn't be part
[2:11:51] of the marina as well. That's been
[2:11:58] closed down.
[2:11:59] >> thank you. >> I
[2:12:00] just want you to address the narrative,
[2:12:01] please.
[2:12:02] >> thanks, kevin. >>
[2:12:07] go ahead.
[2:12:19] >> my
[2:12:21] name is bob emanuel. I live in pacific
[2:12:22] grove but I do have a boat
[2:12:24] here. As a longtime resident, as a
[2:12:25] kid, in fact, my father was a city
[2:12:27] manager here back in the 60s and this
[2:12:28] place has really shrunk. He used
[2:12:30] to be much bigger when I was a kid
[2:12:31] in my mind. Anyway, I was
[2:12:33] out on the ferry --the marine --the
[2:12:34] ferry dock today and I
[2:12:36] was really glad that you left the
[2:12:37] old fairy. When I was a kid,
[2:12:39] there was no bridge. You have to take
[2:12:40] the ferry across
[2:12:42] and it is nice to see people live
[2:12:43] with that. [ inaudible ] but
[2:12:45] I would like to say before I get to
[2:12:46] my main point is
[2:12:49] you compared a lot of marinas. Those
[2:12:50] are
[2:12:51] very nice. I'm familiar with a lot
[2:12:52] of them. The difference is my
[2:12:54] boat is here in the mud twice a day
[2:12:55] and in those other marinas, they are
[2:12:58] not. That said, I don't have any issue
[2:12:59] with
[2:13:01] the 40% increase. I would
[2:13:04] just say almost 40 years I was a civil
[2:13:05] servant for
[2:13:07] the department
[2:13:10] of defense.
[2:13:25] I ran municipal and county services on
[2:13:26] army and navy bases.
[2:13:27] the went through a similar situation
[2:13:28] where we did not want to raise rates.
[2:13:29] we
[2:13:30] kept them low, kept them low, kept
[2:13:32] them low and then all of a
[2:13:33] sudden, we are in a situation where
[2:13:34] we have to jack them up pretty high.
[2:13:36] there are a lot of wonderful people
[2:13:38] living at the marina. For me, no big
[2:13:39] deal. It's a good I come here once
[2:13:41] a week to reacquaint myself with
[2:13:42] my high school friends but for the
[2:13:44] people who live there, I think that
[2:13:45] could be quite expensive. My advice
[2:13:46] per the lesson I learned myself, two,
[2:13:47] three, four,
[2:13:48] 5% per year, rather than 40% every
[2:13:50] --you guys get the point.
[2:13:51] anyways, thank you.
[2:13:52] >> thank you.
[2:13:53] >> who else has
[2:13:56] comments? Jonas pique.
[2:13:57] >> any of
[2:13:59] you own a boat down
[2:14:04] at the -- marina? You live on one.
[2:14:05] so you are familiar
[2:14:08] with
[2:14:09] our docks. I'm on a dock. I can't
[2:14:11] even get my boat out of
[2:14:13] the slip because I'm sitting in the
[2:14:14] mud. Not only is it
[2:14:17] --I can't get out, but
[2:14:20] it is wearing my bottom
[2:14:21] paying off the boat. [ inaudible ]
[2:14:23] I'm sucking up
[2:14:26] mud into mansion so it's causing
[2:14:32] engine problems. B, the
[2:14:33] docks, you can't even walk on them,
[2:14:34] basically and if you do, you have
[2:14:35] to
[2:14:36] watch where you are walking because
[2:14:38] you are going to put your foot through
[2:14:41] the wood. Or
[2:14:42] you stub your toe and you trip. I
[2:14:44] mean, I think all of us
[2:14:47] should go on a field trip and walk
[2:14:48] the docks. You go to the niche, you
[2:14:50] go to
[2:14:56] any other
[2:15:05] marina,
[2:15:06] they are nice concrete docks. They have so
[2:15:08] much more to offer. Yes, you are
[2:15:09] the cheapest here, but you have nothing to
[2:15:11] offer us. There's no fuel. We can't
[2:15:13] get in and out. I don't know how you
[2:15:14] are going to do your light
[2:15:15] parade because everyone is going to
[2:15:17] get stuck at the mouth at the marina.
[2:15:18] and definitely if you are a sailboat.
[2:15:20] you know. I mean, literally, the money
[2:15:21] should
[2:15:22] be going to the marina because that's
[2:15:23] what brought everybody here in the
[2:15:26] first place.
[2:15:27] you got the symbol of a sailboat.
[2:15:29] nobody can come in here with a
[2:15:32] sailboat. The yacht
[2:15:35] club has
[2:15:39] a problem with people coming in on
[2:15:41] cruises. I mean, it's time to work
[2:15:42] on that. That is your moneymaker that
[2:15:44] we are paying for so help us
[2:15:45] out as boat owners. Thank you very
[2:15:47] much.
[2:15:48] >>
[2:15:50] thank you.
[2:15:51] >> any other
[2:15:56] comments tonight?
[2:15:59] all right. How about in the
[2:16:00] virtual audience?
[2:16:01] >> please use the
[2:16:02] raise
[2:16:05] hand
[2:16:08] feature.
[2:16:09] >> I have
[2:16:11] no hands.
[2:16:16] >> all right, so, I'm going to bring
[2:16:17] this back. Sandra,
[2:16:18] you indicated you had some other comments.
[2:16:20] would you like to provide your
[2:16:26] comments now?
[2:16:29] [ inaudible ]
[2:16:30] >> you know, reading
[2:16:31] this staff
[2:16:32] report, it took me back to the recent
[2:16:33] discussion we had on our
[2:16:34] garbage rates. And, you know, how
[2:16:35] he had to do, I think it was a
[2:16:38] double-digit increase on our
[2:16:41] garbage rates and similarly, we
[2:16:47] had prior administrations hadn't done the
[2:16:49] consistent sort of, you know, increases
[2:16:50] that
[2:16:53] certainly I a
[2:16:56] very much
[2:16:59] --I think is very much prudent,
[2:17:00] and I know that our current executive
[2:17:02] team in council all feel that way.
[2:17:08] and
[2:17:20] I am
[2:17:21] very, very -- I share the frustration
[2:17:23] that was expressed here tonight, and
[2:17:24] to the point of,
[2:17:25] you know, what we are doing about
[2:17:26] it, I think staff had laid out
[2:17:28] thank you for that. Some of the improvements
[2:17:29] and it sounds like those improvements
[2:17:30] were
[2:17:31] acknowledged. That f3 has done an
[2:17:32] admirable job in the short amount
[2:17:33] of time
[2:17:34] that we had them. But we have a lot
[2:17:35] more work
[2:17:40] to do, and there is what is doable
[2:17:41] in the short term and then
[2:17:43] it's more of the long term, as well,
[2:17:44] and that we are working to
[2:17:45] address both. So, I wanted to clarify
[2:17:47] that from
[2:17:49] staff because the options before us
[2:17:53] here tonight. The
[2:17:59] third option is in
[2:18:00] the slideshow to go back to the earlier option.
[2:18:02] that is specific to the morning.
[2:18:05] is that --is that correct?
[2:18:06] >> no.
[2:18:07] the third -- yes. The third option
[2:18:11] we presented under the
[2:18:13] mooring fees is a third option recommended
[2:18:14] by the subcommittee. The utilities
[2:18:20] and the
[2:18:26] liveaboard fee, the subcommittee
[2:18:27] accepted as presented.
[2:18:28] >> then my
[2:18:29] question was --in other user fees,
[2:18:30] like
[2:18:32] for parks
[2:18:34] and rec, I believe we have a system
[2:18:35] in place where if somebody demonstrates
[2:18:38] financial
[2:18:39] hardship, that we have some options
[2:18:41] available
[2:18:46] for them. Is there a similar --is
[2:18:47] there some recourse here that
[2:18:50] if somebody does come forward to
[2:18:56] show some
[2:18:59] financial hardship, do we have a way
[2:19:00] to work with them
[2:19:01] or offer any type of relief?
[2:19:02] >> no.
[2:19:03] that is not
[2:19:05] being presented.
[2:19:07] >> so we don't have that. That would've been
[2:19:08] something that I would have liked
[2:19:09] to have
[2:19:11] seen. You are talking 40%.
[2:19:14] you know.
[2:19:17] that is a pretty steep increase. I
[2:19:19] understand why we have to do it. I
[2:19:20] do. I'm not questioning that, but
[2:19:23] I'm also --and I appreciate the subcommittee's
[2:19:25] recommendation, as well, with respect
[2:19:26] to phasing it in. That
[2:19:29] is helpful. But, you know, I personally
[2:19:30] would
[2:19:32] have liked to have seen some type
[2:19:33] of
[2:19:39] financial hardship
[2:19:42] waiver or something there to
[2:19:43] help, but that's just me. But I think
[2:19:45] sort of moving forward, it is
[2:19:48] really incumbent upon
[2:19:49] us to manage these much more closely
[2:19:51] than
[2:19:53] we have, to the commentators earlier
[2:19:54] point,
[2:19:59] you know, the annual two, three, 5%
[2:20:00] we need to
[2:20:01] do --it needs to keep up. Because
[2:20:03] this is a lot to hit
[2:20:09] them with.
[2:20:12] I
[2:20:13] get it. And I share that frustration.
[2:20:14] I'm just trying to figure out how
[2:20:16] we manage it and I think the subcommittee
[2:20:18] has come forward with as
[2:20:19] good as a recommendation as there's
[2:20:21] going to be at this point. But,
[2:20:22] yeah. Those are just some of my thoughts
[2:20:24] that I have, so,
[2:20:30] thank you.
[2:20:31] >> yeah. I
[2:20:33] just had a question
[2:20:39] for staff.
[2:20:40] based on the information that was
[2:20:42] submitted here to council, can you
[2:20:44] all kind of speak to the expenditures
[2:20:45] and
[2:20:46] operational versus capital, just so we
[2:20:48] have clarity?
[2:20:54] >> yes.
[2:21:03] q
[2:21:04] for that. I was just going to ask
[2:21:05] if I could make some clarifications
[2:21:06] on
[2:21:07] that. So, one of the things to understand
[2:21:09] about the marina enterprise fund is
[2:21:10] it
[2:21:11] has five funds and those five funds
[2:21:12] are divided up into different things.
[2:21:13] you
[2:21:14] have capital. You have the marina
[2:21:15] itself. The waterfront area. There's
[2:21:16] one for --what
[2:21:17] is it? Railroad. And what was the
[2:21:18] last one? And debt service for
[2:21:20] debt service. The amounts that we
[2:21:22] put into this presentation were focused on the
[2:21:24] marina and that is fund 78. What kevin presented
[2:21:27] here was how mars
[2:21:28] budget from what their revenue might've
[2:21:30] been from the 10
[2:21:31] year projection. But it is important
[2:21:33] to note on this back in
[2:21:39] 2025 and a lot of this year, we
[2:21:40] had more slips. We had a lot more
[2:21:42] slips. We had the bait shop which
[2:21:43] was
[2:21:45] bringing in revenue. All of
[2:21:46] that revenue went back to the operations
[2:21:48] of the marina. Over time, as we have
[2:21:49] gone through the plaintiff the deficit
[2:21:51] and having to close
[2:21:57] down docs,
[2:21:58] losing boaters and so forth, that
[2:22:00] is what has changed and shifted it
[2:22:01] to what
[2:22:02] we are getting out to the point of
[2:22:03] the discussion we are having tonight
[2:22:04] with the amount. So this is just almar's
[2:22:06] part. It doesn't include --because
[2:22:07] one
[2:22:08] of the things that the city took on
[2:22:09] was a lot of the
[2:22:12] utility cost. There was a
[2:22:15] set utility that they had
[2:22:21] almar
[2:22:24] that they were paying and the rest
[2:22:26] that the city covered in a different fund.
[2:22:27] this is not accurate when you're talking
[2:22:29] about the bigger picture of the entire
[2:22:30] arena. --marina. It
[2:22:33] is only telling part of
[2:22:36] the story.
[2:22:39] expenditures --none of
[2:22:41] them made it was collected in fund 78
[2:22:42] goes to any of these types of
[2:22:45] items so those all come out of fund
[2:22:46] 74,
[2:22:47] which is our capital fund. So the
[2:22:48] marina --the boaters of the
[2:22:54] marina
[2:22:57] do not pay for these
[2:22:58] items. That something that's important
[2:22:59] to clarify. I just wanted to make sure
[2:23:00] --and that's
[2:23:02] --all the --the peer --the work at
[2:23:03] --doing the capital project
[2:23:06] --the land
[2:23:09] use plan
[2:23:15] which is a requirement by the state
[2:23:17] of california. That was not paid for
[2:23:18] by the boaters. Just wanted to verify
[2:23:19] that on those two points.
[2:23:20] >> sorry,
[2:23:21] joe. Just to clarify, then, where
[2:23:22] do those funds
[2:23:23] come from?
[2:23:24] >> a little bit of everything.
[2:23:25] from the general fund, krantz.
[2:23:26] >>
[2:23:27] for the marina operations, since almar's
[2:23:28] budget is not paying especially the
[2:23:29] water
[2:23:30] bill and insurance and a lot of the
[2:23:31] other,
[2:23:36] costs --doing maintenance on
[2:23:37] the marina itself. Those funds before
[2:23:39] I come up to the 2023 fiscal year,
[2:23:40] the
[2:23:42] funds itself [
[2:23:44] inaudible ] in particular for 78 we
[2:23:45] talk
[2:23:51] about, --$97 in deficits in the balance
[2:23:54] --and that's on top of the
[2:23:57] $109,000 loan we already loaned
[2:23:59] them at that point in time. The total
[2:24:00] deficit before fiscal year 2024 is
[2:24:03] $506,000 for marina operations.
[2:24:06] so almar's budget in here is just
[2:24:07] a
[2:24:09] part of it. Only. There's
[2:24:15] a more
[2:24:30] portion and then the portion the city
[2:24:31] handles the
[2:24:32] operation as well. [ inaudible ]
[2:24:33] >>
[2:24:34] can I add the thing I feel like
[2:24:35] neither of you mentioned? I requested
[2:24:37] a copy of the fund 78 so I
[2:24:38] could see the individual line items,
[2:24:39] and the largest line item is salary
[2:24:40] and benefits
[2:24:41] for the employees that work at the
[2:24:42] marina. Right? And that's a 300,000
[2:24:44] --so all of the repairs that are being
[2:24:46] made using this budget, but we
[2:24:47] are paying them, and so I think this
[2:24:49] conversation feels not quite --
[2:24:50] we are not comparing the same buckets
[2:24:53] of monies. We are talking about one
[2:24:55] thing over here and
[2:24:56] then they are talking about something
[2:24:57] completely different, so I don't know
[2:24:58] if it is worth
[2:25:01] providing the council
[2:25:04] the full
[2:25:10] fund
[2:25:11] 78 to talk to if we have additional
[2:25:12] questions about this because that
[2:25:13] has been
[2:25:14] --has always felt a little awkward,
[2:25:15] and I think that the deficit that
[2:25:16] you
[2:25:17] are talking about, and it does not
[2:25:19] --you said
[2:25:22] 390,000
[2:25:23] deficit but that does not include
[2:25:24] the debt service to write to the state,
[2:25:25] so
[2:25:26] it's in addition to that and that's
[2:25:28] how we are coming up with
[2:25:31] this 500 some odd
[2:25:32] thousand year rite, of the loans we
[2:25:33] are giving to the fund and those numbers
[2:25:35] are never really presented at the
[2:25:36] same time so I think from our perspective
[2:25:37] it
[2:25:39] gets confusing why we are saying how
[2:25:40] we are spending the
[2:25:42] money.
[2:25:43] >> I can help because I know I
[2:25:44] brought this up in my
[2:25:46] last presentation, so there are
[2:25:49] two things.
[2:25:59] there is operational, right? And there's
[2:26:01] a loan, as well. In the
[2:26:03] mix of the $560,000, so what we started putting
[2:26:04] into our budget and also the
[2:26:05] forecast, and I'm sorry, june, if
[2:26:07] I'm off on the number but I recall
[2:26:10] it is
[2:26:13] $375,000 for f3
[2:26:14] operations. Then I get that correct?
[2:26:16] >> yes. >> there is the loan
[2:26:17] payment and then the utility payment
[2:26:18] that makes up the 516,000 print in
[2:26:19] ongoing years it
[2:26:20] is 650,000, right, in total. There
[2:26:21] was capital projects mentioned earlier.
[2:26:22] that's a whole
[2:26:23] different bucket, but what I have
[2:26:31] to reinforcement
[2:26:37] --reinforce with the council --this
[2:26:38] council in prior councils, by the
[2:26:40] way, I have taken money out of the
[2:26:41] reserves
[2:26:42] to pay for those capital improvements,
[2:26:43] so, either, whether it's operations
[2:26:44] or whether it
[2:26:45] is capital, we have been taking money
[2:26:46] out of reserves for
[2:26:48] the marina, and it's unsustainable.
[2:26:49] one point I do want to
[2:26:50] make, too, and this is where it is
[2:26:52] unfortunate because there is an impact,
[2:26:55] right?
[2:26:58] two people,
[2:27:09] and I have set up here for the last three
[2:27:10] years having to take similar
[2:27:11] conversations on our city administration
[2:27:12] fees, that were significantly behind
[2:27:13] --you remember a few
[2:27:14] years ago, mike chandler had to bring,
[2:27:16] you know, we hadn't touched those
[2:27:17] in
[2:27:18] 10 years and we had to just rip the
[2:27:19] band-aid off. And in same with
[2:27:20] our recreation fees. Just two years
[2:27:22] ago, had to bring fee increases of
[2:27:23] 50,
[2:27:24] 60% because we hadn't touched the
[2:27:28] fees, and
[2:27:30] --in 10, 15, 20 years, but at the
[2:27:31] same time, we are sitting here,
[2:27:32] cutting every department down to its
[2:27:34] core. We almost had to freeze positions
[2:27:35] this past
[2:27:38] fiscal year. Right, so it's very difficult.
[2:27:40] it's not that we
[2:27:42] don't empathize with that user groups
[2:27:43] who are
[2:27:46] affected by
[2:27:49] this, but,
[2:27:57] everyone in the community --tonight,
[2:27:58] it's obviously the boaters. Right?
[2:27:59] and
[2:28:00] the live aboards, but in the past,
[2:28:01] we've had to deal with other user
[2:28:02] groups
[2:28:03] within the committee, so it's never
[2:28:04] easy, and I just want to recognize
[2:28:05] that, but at the same time, there's
[2:28:07] really not
[2:28:09] much --we are operating at a skeleton
[2:28:10] at this point in the city. It's
[2:28:11] a give-and-take and I recognize a
[2:28:13] difficult decision in front
[2:28:19] of you.
[2:28:21] >> okay, so, lauren, thank you for
[2:28:22] that context. Very helpful. So
[2:28:24] I guess sort of --assuming --okay
[2:28:25] --so we are
[2:28:28] going to act on
[2:28:30] this tonight. What is the next step?
[2:28:31] how do we ensure there's
[2:28:37] regular reviews --that we are bird
[2:28:38] dogging this
[2:28:39] and doing actual work necessary to
[2:28:40] make sure
[2:28:46] that our
[2:28:49] dose that we are keeping up with
[2:28:50] the actual expenses, if that makes
[2:28:52] sense. What reassurance can we provide
[2:28:53] to the stakeholders
[2:28:54] moving forward that we are not going to
[2:28:55] find ourselves in a situation like
[2:28:57] this. What are the sort of --what
[2:28:58] have we learned? What sort of
[2:29:00] policy changes will we be making to
[2:29:01] ensure that a future council
[2:29:04] doesn't find themselves in a situation
[2:29:06] like this.
[2:29:07] >> it's already done. You adopted
[2:29:08] a
[2:29:13] strategic plan.
[2:29:15] it spells out loud and clear that
[2:29:16] this council is committed to reducing
[2:29:18] subsidies that are straining the general
[2:29:19] funds. So we have it very clearly
[2:29:20] spelled
[2:29:25] out.
[2:29:31] in prior fee increases that
[2:29:33] we've taken in other areas, though,
[2:29:34] you have consistently said to us,
[2:29:35] yeah, let's put
[2:29:36] this on a more routine schedule, so,
[2:29:37] for example, as you know, our administrative
[2:29:38] fees
[2:29:39] come every year. Our rec fees come
[2:29:40] every --years, so things don't fall
[2:29:42] behind. Same --same potential here.
[2:29:43] once very challenging here is we have
[2:29:44] a project
[2:29:46] coming up, so it's hard
[2:29:49] to know when we would actually come with
[2:29:50] another fee
[2:29:52] increase in
[2:29:54] the future, because, we don't --we
[2:29:55] don't really understand the timeline
[2:29:56] with
[2:29:58] the project, and the other piece of
[2:29:59] this
[2:30:01] is when we come in
[2:30:04] the spring
[2:30:13] and jim and I
[2:30:15] bring, you know, a discussion about
[2:30:16] long-term fiscal sustainability, I
[2:30:17] think we will have a
[2:30:18] better sense there about what our
[2:30:19] options are on how to close the gap
[2:30:20] at
[2:30:21] the marina, so it's hard to answer
[2:30:22] now, whether in another two years
[2:30:23] we
[2:30:24] are going to be coming back --because
[2:30:26] the project might be moving in
[2:30:27] a direction at that point, where,
[2:30:29] yeah. Exactly. It's hard to know
[2:30:32] today.
[2:30:33] >> no. I --I --
[2:30:35] I recognize
[2:30:36] the discomfort. I'm sitting here,
[2:30:38] having
[2:30:41] flashbacks because my day job, I
[2:30:42] work for the state, and we went through
[2:30:44] this same
[2:30:50] exercise, where,
[2:30:59] fees for the work we do had
[2:31:00] not been adjusted for 20, 30 years,
[2:31:01] and for some of our licensees, it
[2:31:02] was
[2:31:03] sticker shock, and we can get into
[2:31:06] why previous administrations weren't
[2:31:08] raising fees every two or
[2:31:11] 3% per year, but we had to make
[2:31:17] the adjustment
[2:31:21] because if we didn't, we were moving
[2:31:22] towards the brink of insolvency, but
[2:31:23] in some
[2:31:25] cases, we did do a step approach so
[2:31:26] over
[2:31:32] two years, in some cases
[2:31:33] we would say, hey, we would work with
[2:31:35] licensees to provide some
[2:31:38] type of payment
[2:31:39] plan if there was --was --was hardship,
[2:31:41] but it's about writing
[2:31:43] the ship and very similar to what
[2:31:47] we are
[2:31:53] experiences tonight,
[2:31:56] even with the increases, it's still
[2:31:58] not covering all of the cost. But
[2:31:59] we have to
[2:32:02] try to
[2:32:05] do something to try
[2:32:06] to prevent the bleeding. Now, if we
[2:32:08] were down
[2:32:11] the path with
[2:32:12] some other projects on the horizon,
[2:32:13] we probably wouldn't be sitting here
[2:32:14] having
[2:32:15] this conversation, but unfortunately,
[2:32:17] we
[2:32:20] aren't there yet.
[2:32:22] but we have to try to do something
[2:32:26] because, again, this is taking
[2:32:29] away from our
[2:32:32] general fund and if
[2:32:35] our reserves
[2:32:37] go below a certain threshold with
[2:32:38] our general fund, then this is
[2:32:41] a very different conversation here.
[2:32:43] that we are having as a council and
[2:32:44] having to talk of
[2:32:50] --
[2:32:56] to
[2:32:57] our residents about it. I know having
[2:32:59] gone through it, it is an uncomfortable
[2:33:00] situation. You're talking about increases
[2:33:02] and my boat is stuck
[2:33:08] in mud. I --I --I hear
[2:33:10] it. So, we are just trying to --given
[2:33:11] the hand that we have
[2:33:13] to play, to just tried to do something
[2:33:14] to mitigate what we are having to
[2:33:17] fund to keep
[2:33:20] the marina operational at this
[2:33:23] time, so.
[2:33:24] >>
[2:33:26] I just want to
[2:33:31] remind everyone that we are in a very
[2:33:32] different place than we were just
[2:33:35] a couple of
[2:33:38] years ago.
[2:33:44] there's been posts on rants and raves
[2:33:45] where people say,
[2:33:46] have they even dredged up marine in
[2:33:47] the last few decades
[2:33:48] and someone that jackson says, yes,
[2:33:50] we dredged in 2020 22
[2:33:56] -- 2022 --and the seawalls --
[2:33:58] we just finished the repairs of the
[2:33:59] fishing pier which blocked an
[2:34:05] entire hole that had been set a minting
[2:34:07] in that whole side of the marina and
[2:34:08] one of the things that has been
[2:34:10] brought up over the last couple of
[2:34:11] years is
[2:34:12] talking about public-private partnership.
[2:34:14] that's the direction we need to go
[2:34:15] and anyone who
[2:34:16] has been here knows that is what our council
[2:34:17] had to present to
[2:34:19] us in july and we are in the process
[2:34:20] of talking through some of
[2:34:21] that, so we are not raising rates
[2:34:23] and
[2:34:26] doing nothing.
[2:34:28] we are raising rates while we are
[2:34:29] doing a bunch of other stuff and
[2:34:32] I do want to thank you
[2:34:35] for including all of the work that
[2:34:37] f3 has done that again, a couple of
[2:34:38] years ago --last december
[2:34:41] --f3
[2:34:43] has only been around since last january.
[2:34:44] at this time last year, we couldn't
[2:34:45] you
[2:34:46] all in the face and say that things
[2:34:47] were happening because
[2:34:50] a lot of that repair was not
[2:34:55] getting done, and in this calendar
[2:34:56] year, I've seen so
[2:34:57] many improvements. I acknowledge they're
[2:34:59] not perfect but we've all been
[2:35:05] down there. We've all taken --
[2:35:06] we either have friends with bullets
[2:35:07] or we've done field trips. We know
[2:35:08] what it looks like
[2:35:09] and it has improved significantly,
[2:35:11] so I recognize that --what you
[2:35:14] said --
[2:35:16] we are always the ones stuck approving
[2:35:17] rate increases which is super frustrating,
[2:35:18] but
[2:35:19] we know that it's not just the rate
[2:35:20] increases. This
[2:35:22] is a much bigger project and a much
[2:35:23] bigger problem and we are here
[2:35:29] for it,
[2:35:35] and we are playing the wrong game
[2:35:36] for the
[2:35:37] marina and so I appreciate, lauren,
[2:35:38] your comment about, we don't know
[2:35:39] where we
[2:35:40] are going to be because potentially,
[2:35:41] you know, this time next year, we
[2:35:42] are
[2:35:44] going
[2:35:47] to be
[2:35:53] talking about
[2:35:55] steps 4 for that partnership. We are
[2:35:56] going to be in a different place
[2:35:58] in a couple of months if everything
[2:35:59] goes the way that it was propose to
[2:36:01] us over the summer, so, yeah. That
[2:36:02] was my comment because I know we have
[2:36:04] received lots of --some frustration
[2:36:05] from the public and from people here
[2:36:06] tonight.
[2:36:07] I'm sorry. We already close to the
[2:36:09] public comment process but I'd
[2:36:10] be happy to talk to you after the
[2:36:11] meeting. Yeah. Thanks. So, let's see.
[2:36:12] tonight, it's
[2:36:13] the public hearing. We are supposed
[2:36:14] to adopt a resolution. Was there any
[2:36:16] concern --any changes we wanted to
[2:36:18] make? I
[2:36:19] believe option three was on the table
[2:36:21] tonight. It was
[2:36:27] to reduce
[2:36:29] from the 75, 25 to the 50, 50 split.
[2:36:30] were
[2:36:31] there any other changes that people
[2:36:33] wanted to make or based on
[2:36:39] comments received. I think kevin
[2:36:45] for his
[2:36:47] comments about changing the narrative.
[2:36:49] I think that is absolutely a fair
[2:36:50] comment. Just understanding that the
[2:36:51] folks that are
[2:36:57] renting slips,
[2:37:18] they are --
[2:37:19] they are not spending $500,000 a year.
[2:37:21] so that's why I think that's the narrative
[2:37:22] he wanted to make so I just wanted
[2:37:24] to acknowledge that. Thank you for
[2:37:25] pointing
[2:37:26] that out. So what handed us was the
[2:37:27] expenses associated with renting slips,
[2:37:28] but
[2:37:29] then we did have a follow-up conversation
[2:37:30] about the other expenses that the
[2:37:31] city has
[2:37:32] to deal with. So. So, anyway, yeah.
[2:37:33] was there anything anyone wanted to
[2:37:34] add
[2:37:35] before we --anyone would like to make
[2:37:36] a motion then, as written?
[2:37:37] >>
[2:37:38] I make a motion that we adopt a resolution
[2:37:39] amending the marina fee schedule related
[2:37:40] to mooring, utility, and liveaboard
[2:37:42] fees
[2:37:43] >> second. >> all in favor,
[2:37:45] please say
[2:37:48] aye .
[2:37:51] >> aye. >> motion passes. >> all
[2:37:54] right. Our next
[2:37:57] item is
[2:38:03] conduct a public hearing, waive
[2:38:05] the reading, and introduce an ordinance
[2:38:06] in approving zoning text amendment
[2:38:09] to the mmc.
[2:38:15] thanks.
[2:38:16] >>
[2:38:21] thank you, mayor zorn. I
[2:38:24] am here to discuss several
[2:38:30] text amendments.
[2:38:36] [ inaudible - low volume ]
[2:38:42] okay. So before
[2:38:48] we get too far into things, I
[2:38:49] would like to discuss why we are here
[2:38:51] and some other
[2:38:57] important context.
[2:39:09] so there's a couple of things
[2:39:10] in the ordinance. I'll get into the
[2:39:11] specifics shortly, but here's a high-level
[2:39:12] summary. The vast
[2:39:13] majority of the ordinance and what
[2:39:15] we'll be discussing tonight is the
[2:39:16] establishment of
[2:39:17] an inclusionary housing program. We
[2:39:18] are also providing some additional
[2:39:19] modifications to our offstreet
[2:39:20] parking standards, permitting unbundled
[2:39:21] parking, establishing ground mounted
[2:39:22] mechanical equipment, clarifying some
[2:39:23] adu regulations --
[2:39:24] state exemption adus, throughout
[2:39:30] the ordinance.
[2:39:33] now we know what's in the ordinance.
[2:39:34] here's some important policy context
[2:39:35] that the streets why we are here.
[2:39:36] for scott housing
[2:39:37] element provides direction for the
[2:39:39] city to consider adopting
[2:39:44] an inclusionary housing ordinance.
[2:39:45] second is consistency with the metropolitan
[2:39:46] transportation
[2:39:47] commission's transit oriented communities,
[2:39:48] also known as the toc policy. The
[2:39:49] toc policy is a voluntary program
[2:39:51] that rewards the
[2:39:54] sword significant
[2:39:59] funding including inclusionary housing
[2:40:00] requirements and some of
[2:40:01] the parking management strategies
[2:40:03] that we are discussing today.
[2:40:04] >>
[2:40:06] I'm sorry. In the
[2:40:09] back --
[2:40:12] I'm sorry, sir.
[2:40:13] >>
[2:40:15] gentlemen.
[2:40:16] >>
[2:40:21] it's
[2:40:22] difficult to hear the presentation.
[2:40:24] thank you.
[2:40:25] >> and just as her mother, city council
[2:40:26] has
[2:40:27] previously directed staff to update our policies
[2:40:28] and regulations to be consistent with
[2:40:29] the toc
[2:40:30] policy. Ab 1505 has
[2:40:36] requirements . This is
[2:40:37] consistent with goal c, economic development
[2:40:39] and housing from strategic
[2:40:45] policies.
[2:40:48] so we are going to be talking about
[2:40:49] a
[2:40:50] lot of technicalities around affordable
[2:40:51] housing. Before we dive too deep,
[2:40:52] it is impertinent
[2:40:53] to take a moment and talk about what
[2:40:54] affordable housing actually means.
[2:40:55] there are a
[2:41:00] lot of
[2:41:06] concerns. I want to make sure we are
[2:41:08] all on the same page. Affordable housing
[2:41:09] is just a blanket term that is also
[2:41:10] sometimes called lower income housing
[2:41:12] or below market rate housing. What
[2:41:13] it boils down
[2:41:18] to is
[2:41:21] affordable housing is a requirement
[2:41:22] that homes
[2:41:23] to be printed or so the film is based
[2:41:24] on one, their household income and
[2:41:26] two, their household size. Not all
[2:41:27] affordable housing is the same. Based
[2:41:28] on
[2:41:29] these two variables of income and
[2:41:30] size, there are different tiers of
[2:41:31] affordable housing
[2:41:33] but it is based on ami, which
[2:41:36] is the median income level for house
[2:41:37] hold levels based
[2:41:39] on the county so half of the households
[2:41:40] in
[2:41:41] the county earn more. Half earned
[2:41:42] less. For
[2:41:44] example in contra costa county, the
[2:41:45] jiggling for a family of
[2:41:48] four was
[2:41:51] $155,700. Now that we know
[2:41:54] what the
[2:41:56] ami is, we can do calculations to
[2:41:57] figure out what the various income
[2:41:58] and
[2:42:00] affordable --affordability
[2:42:03] levels are for different
[2:42:05] budgets. They generally fall into the categories
[2:42:06] you see in the columns. Acutely low
[2:42:07] is
[2:42:10] 17%
[2:42:12] aye --ami very low is up to 50. Close
[2:42:13] up to
[2:42:19] 80.
[2:42:22] water it is up to 120. When
[2:42:23] summons is affordable housing, I can
[2:42:24] mean a lot of different things depending
[2:42:25] on
[2:42:26] who it is intended to serve. Now,
[2:42:28] one of the biggest
[2:42:29] misconceptions about affordable housing
[2:42:30] is that it is for only the lowest
[2:42:31] wage
[2:42:32] earners. While that can be true for
[2:42:34] some projects --15, 30% ami,
[2:42:35] it's not actually usually the case.
[2:42:37] for instance, nausea contra
[2:42:40] costa
[2:42:46] county --
[2:42:49] hundred $86,000 is
[2:42:50] considered moderate income. Both of
[2:42:51] these families could qualify for affordable
[2:42:52] housing. And
[2:42:53] that really surprises people because
[2:42:54] they don't realize that affordable
[2:42:55] housing
[2:42:56] --they're not thinking families that
[2:42:58] make six figures.
[2:43:04] so, with that out of the way, let's
[2:43:05] get into what the actual inclusionary housing
[2:43:07] program that
[2:43:10] we are proposing is. So,
[2:43:11] starting off what is inclusionary
[2:43:12] housing? Sometimes it is referred
[2:43:16] to as
[2:43:17] inclusionary zoning but it refers
[2:43:18] to requirements imposed on developers
[2:43:19] of residential projects to set
[2:43:22] aside a
[2:43:23] shared --a share of their proposed
[2:43:24] units as affordable housing. Inclusionary
[2:43:25] housing can be
[2:43:31] limited to
[2:43:39] address segregation by ensuring housing
[2:43:40] is available for lower
[2:43:41] wage workers, guarding against concentrations
[2:43:42] of poverty and events and making it
[2:43:43] possible for lower
[2:43:44] income households to live in higher
[2:43:45] resourced neighborhoods. Okay, so
[2:43:46] now that we have covered
[2:43:49] our bases let's talk
[2:43:50] about the program. So the next two
[2:43:52] slides are the most important for
[2:43:53] understanding. Projects which generally
[2:43:55] have the creation
[2:44:01] of 11
[2:44:05] new dwelling units will be required
[2:44:06] to comply. However, there are certain
[2:44:07] types of exclusions.
[2:44:08] that includes projects like reconstructions,
[2:44:09] modifications to existing buildings
[2:44:10] and other projects that you see
[2:44:11] listed here. Now, these types of qualifying
[2:44:13] projects would be
[2:44:19] required to dedicate 15% of their
[2:44:20] total units to affordable housing. Depending
[2:44:21] on if they are rental or ownership,
[2:44:22] the average ami
[2:44:25] must meet 80 or 120% of
[2:44:28] ami average. 120
[2:44:34] for ownership.
[2:44:42] to kind of put these regulations into
[2:44:43] a little bit of
[2:44:44] context, I provided two real-world
[2:44:45] examples of recently approved projects.
[2:44:46] the first is the
[2:44:49] amare apartments project which
[2:44:52] is
[2:44:53] currently approved for 183 units.
[2:44:54] hypothetically, if we were to apply
[2:44:55] our program here,
[2:44:57] 15% of their units would need to be
[2:44:58] affordable which would equate to
[2:45:00] 28 units being the restricted. Affordable.
[2:45:01] from there, again, rental
[2:45:03] would have to have an average of no
[2:45:04] more
[2:45:07] than 80% ami, so there's a different
[2:45:08] way you
[2:45:09] can break that down but here's just
[2:45:10] an example of a
[2:45:13] potential income unit mix there. And
[2:45:14] then the
[2:45:15] same thing for the wyoming heights
[2:45:16] project which was just recently approved
[2:45:17] and
[2:45:19] is
[2:45:20] the ownership project for 21 townhomes.
[2:45:22] if we were to apply these standards,
[2:45:23] seven
[2:45:25] of the
[2:45:28] units would
[2:45:34] be required to be affordable
[2:45:36] housing. And again, that one is 120% ami,
[2:45:37] so the mix can be a little
[2:45:38] bit different depending on the rental
[2:45:40] or ownership components.
[2:45:41] >> can I
[2:45:42] interrupt really
[2:45:43] quickly? This is not the actual breakdown
[2:45:44] of
[2:45:45] affordable units. These are hypothetical
[2:45:46] numbers.
[2:45:47] >> and just for context,
[2:45:48] amare project
[2:45:50] isn't entitled for nine affordable
[2:45:52] units and the wyoming heights project
[2:45:53] is
[2:45:55] entitled
[2:45:58] 48. --
[2:46:00] for 8. Leon two general requirements
[2:46:07] of inclusionary units. Any units built on
[2:46:08] site would need to be of a standard
[2:46:10] comparable to the above
[2:46:16] moderate units
[2:46:27] or the market rate units. This includes
[2:46:28] the design, the finishes, the access
[2:46:29] to amenities. These units need to
[2:46:30] be reasonably dispersed throughout
[2:46:31] the project site kind
[2:46:33] of how you would envision it in this
[2:46:34] image that you see here. Really, the
[2:46:36] goal is to make affordable units indistinguishable
[2:46:37] from market rate units. You shouldn't
[2:46:38] be able
[2:46:39] to go to a project site and figure
[2:46:40] out which ones are affordable and
[2:46:42] which ones are market rate. So, to
[2:46:43] assist in offsetting the cost of incorporating
[2:46:44] affordable housing into these types
[2:46:49] of projects,
[2:47:18] we do make sure that these projects
[2:47:19] are available for a couple
[2:47:20] of different incentives. The first
[2:47:22] is they would still be eligible for
[2:47:23] california state density
[2:47:24] bonus law which provides a pretty
[2:47:25] significant density bonus to projects
[2:47:26] already providing affordable housing.
[2:47:27] it also allows them several concessions
[2:47:28] and waivers to development standards.
[2:47:29] things like heights,
[2:47:30] setbacks, and light coverage, or projects
[2:47:31] would be eligible for development
[2:47:32] incentive and community benefits
[2:47:33] program which was passed I believe
[2:47:34] last year, which provides even greater
[2:47:35] residential
[2:47:36] density bonus then under state. The first
[2:47:37] is we are proposing to explicitly
[2:47:43] permit unbundled
[2:47:44] it allows
[2:47:46] them several
[2:47:48] this would not be a
[2:47:50] requirement of projects. It would
[2:47:51] just
[2:47:52] create the option. Another requirement
[2:47:54] of the chick told us we
[2:47:57] are providing
[2:47:58] --administrative offices for any new
[2:48:00] development. And while not
[2:48:03] a requirement
[2:48:06] of the
[2:48:09] toc
[2:48:10] policy we are proposing a couple of
[2:48:11] additional cleanup to create some
[2:48:12] parking standards and ratios
[2:48:13] for retail complexes and shopping
[2:48:16] centers. The code currently lacks
[2:48:17] regulations relating to small ground
[2:48:18] mounted income
[2:48:21] such as
[2:48:24] hvac and [ inaudible ] which
[2:48:25] has been a gray area and as I could.
[2:48:27] we are proposing to allow
[2:48:29] them to project into the side yard
[2:48:30] setbacks.
[2:48:33] no closer than three pairs --
[2:48:36] feet
[2:48:37] --closer to the primary structure
[2:48:39] as opposed to the
[2:48:40] property line. So just add some clarification
[2:48:42] to
[2:48:48] the zoning.
[2:48:51] we also have a couple of updates
[2:48:52] to our adu code. The first one is related
[2:48:54] to privacy standards. So the zoning
[2:48:57] ordinance generally only permits adus
[2:48:58] to
[2:48:59] be two stories if they are additions
[2:49:00] to existing structures or if there's
[2:49:01] some
[2:49:03] kind of approval
[2:49:04] of an exception. So to alleviate the
[2:49:06] potential privacy concerns of a two-story
[2:49:07] adu we incorporated devisee standards
[2:49:09] such as frosted
[2:49:10] or opaque windows or windows having
[2:49:18] to be
[2:49:25] a certain height above the floor level. The
[2:49:27] intent was always for these standards
[2:49:28] to apply to windows only on second
[2:49:29] stories, however, that's not unfortunately
[2:49:30] the way it is
[2:49:31] written in the codes of this is more
[2:49:33] of a cleanup to make sure
[2:49:34] that these privacy standards are enforced
[2:49:36] on the second story
[2:49:41] windows only. And second adu has to
[2:49:42] do
[2:49:43] --amendment has to do with the state
[2:49:45] exemption adus. I'll kind of get into
[2:49:46] what
[2:49:47] those are in just a second but generally
[2:49:48] we are just doing a little
[2:49:49] bit of cleanup related to those. So
[2:49:51] after publication of the
[2:49:57] planning commission
[2:49:58] ordinance we received one public comment from
[2:49:59] the california housing defense --
[2:50:00] I forget the acronym.
[2:50:02] defense fund. Thank you. So calhdf.
[2:50:03] they had
[2:50:06] two comments. One is that we
[2:50:07] are incorrectly referencing the state
[2:50:09] good. We corrected
[2:50:10] that any state ordinance. It just
[2:50:12] hasn't been reflected in the online
[2:50:13] code
[2:50:14] yet. [ inaudible ] the second had
[2:50:15] to do with how we
[2:50:20] treat state exemption adus. The state
[2:50:21] exemption adus are an envelope
[2:50:22] for adus. High requirements, square-foot
[2:50:24] requirements
[2:50:29] pretty you meet those requirements,
[2:50:30] the city basically has no
[2:50:31] discretion and you're allowed to go
[2:50:33] straight for building
[2:50:34] permit. Calhdf had a common related
[2:50:36] to how he described those in our
[2:50:41] code. And we were applying some of
[2:50:42] our discretionary standards to them that
[2:50:45] for clarity we were never
[2:50:48] doing that.
[2:50:50] we already had some carveout at the
[2:50:51] beginning but we went
[2:50:52] ahead and made some additional clarifications
[2:50:54] to ensure that that is extremely clear
[2:50:55] in
[2:51:00] our code.
[2:51:06] and finally, we presented the
[2:51:07] ordinance to the planning commission
[2:51:08] on october 28th. There was a minority
[2:51:09] concern about
[2:51:10] the unbundled parking amendment in
[2:51:11] the ordinance. There was a citation
[2:51:12] of concerns that it
[2:51:13] could potentially result in price
[2:51:15] gouging separating the pricing --
[2:51:16] leases
[2:51:17] --and there was a motion to remove
[2:51:18] it from the ordinance but the motion
[2:51:21] failed and
[2:51:24] --adopted --with some other
[2:51:30] minor amendments.
[2:51:53] okay. So with that, tonight's recommendation
[2:51:54] is a little long so please bear
[2:51:55] with me. Staff's recommendation is
[2:51:56] to conduct a public hearing, waive
[2:51:57] the reading, and introduce
[2:51:58] an ordinance approving zoning text
[2:51:59] mems to the martinez municipal code
[2:52:00] by 1, adding chapter
[2:52:01] 22.82, inclusionary housing, 2, amending
[2:52:02] chapters 22.04, definitions, and chapters
[2:52:03] 22.12, residential districts to
[2:52:04] reference a new chapter 22.82, 3,
[2:52:09] amending
[2:52:10] chapter 22.3 for general requirements
[2:52:11] and exceptions to add regulations
[2:52:12] related to ground mounted mechanical
[2:52:13] equipment, 4,
[2:52:14] amending chapter 22.36, offstreet
[2:52:15] parking and loading facilities to
[2:52:16] update
[2:52:18] automobile and bicycle parking ratios
[2:52:19] for residential, commercial,
[2:52:20] and office projects and permit unbundled
[2:52:21] parking pursuant to the housing element
[2:52:27] and ntc,
[2:52:36] metropolitan transpiration commissions
[2:52:37] parking
[2:52:38] pursuant to the housing element and
[2:52:39] metropolitan transportation commission's
[2:52:40] transit oriented communities, policy,
[2:52:41] 4 amending chapter
[2:52:42] 22.43 accessory to units and junior
[2:52:43] accessory dwelling in a stick or fight
[2:52:44] privacy standards
[2:52:45] for two-story and second-story detached
[2:52:46] accessory
[2:52:51] dwelling units.
[2:52:57] with that, I
[2:52:59] am happy to answer any questions from
[2:53:00] the council.
[2:53:01] >> thank you very much
[2:53:02] for
[2:53:03] all of that. Everyone, please make
[2:53:04] a note that he read the whole thing
[2:53:05] so
[2:53:06] we need to make a motion, we are good.
[2:53:07] >> well, just one, the numbering
[2:53:08] seems like it was off. It was 1234,
[2:53:09] and then five. Shouldn't it be
[2:53:11] six?
[2:53:12] >> yes. It should be. >> yeah.
[2:53:13] so.
[2:53:14] >> thank you for catching that.
[2:53:15] >> my only comment was I really appreciate
[2:53:16] so
[2:53:17] many of the clarifications you made
[2:53:18] and some of
[2:53:21] the graphics. Oftentimes, people who
[2:53:22] aren't in
[2:53:23] planning have a hard time understanding
[2:53:24] some of the words that are used so
[2:53:27] I appreciate the
[2:53:30] visual. Does have questions for
[2:53:34] him about
[2:53:35] any of the items presented tonight?
[2:53:36] >> no. I appreciate the clarity. It
[2:53:37] made a
[2:53:40] lot of sense.
[2:53:42] I too share concerns around just the
[2:53:43] term affordable
[2:53:46] housing because it just has a
[2:53:52] different connotation
[2:53:57] if you say workforce housing then
[2:53:58] people perk up than affordable
[2:53:59] housing so I appreciate you just laying
[2:54:00] out the chart and really, we were
[2:54:01] kind
[2:54:02] of going back and forth. It is just
[2:54:04] unfathomable that one
[2:54:06] is considered low income off of $120,000
[2:54:10] a year. That's a whole
[2:54:13] other story but thank you for
[2:54:14] your presentation.
[2:54:15] >> welcome to the
[2:54:16] bay
[2:54:22] area.
[2:54:23] >> thank you very much and for the
[2:54:25] presentation.
[2:54:28] appreciate it.
[2:54:29] looking at the staff report, a couple
[2:54:31] of questions that had come
[2:54:34] to mind. The section on
[2:54:37] page five, alternative means
[2:54:39] of compliance. So you referenced ab
[2:54:44] 1505 . There are these alternatives
[2:54:46] that are laid
[2:54:52] out. So, this --if this is
[2:54:55] adopted
[2:54:56] tonight, and these are the options
[2:54:57] that would be available to affordable housing
[2:54:58] developers
[2:55:04] to meet
[2:55:08] their requirements. Correct? They
[2:55:09] could take advantage of one of these,
[2:55:10] all of
[2:55:11] these? Is there a limit? How does
[2:55:13] that work?
[2:55:14] >>
[2:55:15] for clarification, this would be for
[2:55:16] any developer. Not just affordable
[2:55:17] housing developers.
[2:55:18] >>
[2:55:21] thank you.
[2:55:22] >> yeah. They would be
[2:55:23] --the
[2:55:24] language in the code is carved out
[2:55:25] that they can take advantage of one,
[2:55:28] multiple combination
[2:55:31] of these options and alternatives.
[2:55:33] >> okay. So, in the cities that have
[2:55:37] moved and adopted inclusionary
[2:55:43] housing policy,
[2:55:53] what has been the general trend? Have they
[2:55:55] actually seen -- have they
[2:55:56] been able to move the needle on these
[2:55:57] types of projects in their respective
[2:55:58] communities?
[2:55:59] >> yeah,
[2:56:00] so, in my research, the turner center
[2:56:01] out of uc berkeley, which is one of
[2:56:02] the foremost leaders in housing policy
[2:56:03] research, they did a pretty thorough
[2:56:04] study
[2:56:09] and analyzed the effects of inclusionary
[2:56:10] housing ordinance and their general consensus
[2:56:12] is that it tends to slightly reduce overall
[2:56:17] housing production but increase overall
[2:56:19] housing production.
[2:56:20] >>
[2:56:22] interesting. Okay.
[2:56:23] >>
[2:56:24] and then the last question I had was
[2:56:25] with
[2:56:28] respect to
[2:56:29] the parking that you referenced as
[2:56:31] part of
[2:56:34] your presentation. I
[2:56:37] could see unbundled parking making
[2:56:38] sense,
[2:56:40] particularly if you are within a certain
[2:56:43] diameter
[2:56:46] radius of [ inaudible ]
[2:56:49] forgive me. I get
[2:56:52] my terminology --
[2:56:53] >> major transit stops. >> if you
[2:56:55] say okay, we built
[2:57:01] something not too
[2:57:02] far from the amtrak station. Somebody says,
[2:57:04] I don't need a car. I have
[2:57:07] the train, or I can walk to
[2:57:08] the bus. Fair. Right? We build something
[2:57:10] closer to virginia hills, it becomes
[2:57:13] --it
[2:57:14] becomes a little bit of a different
[2:57:16] ball
[2:57:21] game. Right? But if I understand you
[2:57:22] correctly, it's not a mandate. It's
[2:57:25] an option. So, that would be
[2:57:28] up to the developer
[2:57:31] to say,
[2:57:34] I think
[2:57:36] I'm going to get more people here.
[2:57:37] parking is going to have to
[2:57:38] be a necessity based on the layout
[2:57:40] of the proposal. Right? So, I just
[2:57:41] wanted
[2:57:42] to kind of feel that out and make
[2:57:43] sure I was understanding that correct
[2:57:44] because
[2:57:48] from a developer standpoint, I could
[2:57:49] see it being advantageous
[2:57:51] on one hand but then on the other
[2:57:52] hand, it may not
[2:57:58] make sense,
[2:58:01] but we are not, we are just
[2:58:02] giving them the option to do that.
[2:58:04] we are not requiring them to do that.
[2:58:06] >> right. >> and I just want to clarify,
[2:58:07] generally speaking, it's been seen
[2:58:08] that
[2:58:09] unbundling parking reduces the cost
[2:58:10] of housing because if you are paying
[2:58:11] for the price
[2:58:16] of parking
[2:58:25] but
[2:58:27] you don't use it, you are basically
[2:58:28] subsidizing all of your neighbors,
[2:58:29] or they are
[2:58:30] subsidizing you, and that's already
[2:58:31] included in the cost of your housing
[2:58:32] as opposed to
[2:58:33] if you detach the two, you technically
[2:58:34] could lower the cost of overall housing.
[2:58:35] >>
[2:58:36] okay. And the last question I had
[2:58:37] here was --I appreciated the hypothetical
[2:58:40] you put in
[2:58:43] there with
[2:58:45] respect to amare and wyoming heights. I
[2:58:46] guess the question that came to
[2:58:48] mind is if such a policy was in place
[2:58:49] before the projects were
[2:58:51] [ inaudible -low volume ] I don't
[2:58:52] know what
[2:58:58] the right
[2:59:00] word is, permitted.
[2:59:01] >> entitled. >>
[2:59:02] entitled. Excuse me. Do you think
[2:59:03] the developers
[2:59:04] would've moved forward in the way
[2:59:05] that they did?
[2:59:06] >> you know, I'm not
[2:59:07] really sure. But like I --that's why
[2:59:08] I
[2:59:10] kind of mentioned before, that generally
[2:59:11] speaking,
[2:59:13] cities with inclusionary
[2:59:16] housing have seen slightly
[2:59:19] decreased overall
[2:59:24] housing production, but in turn, have
[2:59:25] seen higher affordable so I
[2:59:27] don't want to speak for any of those
[2:59:28] other developers, but,
[2:59:31] you know, affordable housing is
[2:59:33] not cheap. It's very expensive, which
[2:59:34] is why it's really important that
[2:59:37] we included the certain incentives
[2:59:38] like our community
[2:59:39] benefits program, like allowing them
[2:59:47] to utilize
[2:59:54] state density bonus. Those things are
[2:59:55] -- result in significant cost savings
[2:59:57] and help offset the price of affordable housing.
[2:59:58] >>
[2:59:59] I appreciate you bringing that up
[3:00:00] because sometimes, we
[3:00:01] have to remind folks, we are not in
[3:00:02] the business
[3:00:05] of building housing. We don't build
[3:00:07] houses, but we do help create the
[3:00:08] conditions hopefully that
[3:00:09] fosters housing, so I just want to
[3:00:10] make sure as we are going through
[3:00:11] this
[3:00:12] policy and related items, that we
[3:00:13] are hopefully making it easier and
[3:00:14] more attractive
[3:00:17] for folks to be able to help us
[3:00:20] move this needle on bringing
[3:00:21] more affordable workforce housing
[3:00:23] to our community, which
[3:00:26] it
[3:00:28] sounds like based on what I'm hearing
[3:00:29] tonight, it will.
[3:00:30] >>
[3:00:31] I'm going to give additional context
[3:00:32] and additional
[3:00:33] information with what brandon said.
[3:00:35] as
[3:00:39] he said earlier in his presentation
[3:00:41] using wyoming heights as an example,
[3:00:44] the affordability requirement
[3:00:47] under the
[3:00:49] inclusionary ordinance is 15%, but
[3:00:50] with each
[3:00:51] of the overlays, is adopted, it's
[3:00:52] actually 20%, so this is not actually
[3:00:53] impeding
[3:00:54] them anymore than the incentives that
[3:00:56] they actually
[3:00:59] already have, so where we
[3:01:00] had envisioned from her housing element
[3:01:02] that we are going to see housing growth
[3:01:05] -- these regulations won't
[3:01:08] impact them. Amare is a
[3:01:14] different
[3:01:17] story. It's
[3:01:18] an abnormality. It's not a typical
[3:01:19] project we are going to have. I don't
[3:01:20] foresee a
[3:01:21] project like that in the foreseeable
[3:01:22] future. Housing element does not envision
[3:01:23] a project
[3:01:26] of that skill for the
[3:01:29] foreseeable future.
[3:01:31] I wouldn't recommend making a decision
[3:01:32] based on that and we
[3:01:33] have included a carveouts of that because that
[3:01:35] project is already entitled, these
[3:01:36] regulations
[3:01:37] won't impact that project.
[3:01:38] >> I do
[3:01:39] also want to add one more thing. [
[3:01:40] inaudible ] I have an extra slide
[3:01:41] for
[3:01:46] it. In contra costa county, we are
[3:01:47] only one
[3:01:49] of four or five --I don't recall --
[3:01:50] cities that do not have
[3:01:54] an inclusionary housing ordinance
[3:01:55] and of those four or five cities, only
[3:01:56] two that
[3:01:57] we are aware of are not actually planning
[3:01:59] on doing one, so, almost every single
[3:02:02] city in contra costa county will have
[3:02:04] an inclusionary ordinance.
[3:02:05] >> so,
[3:02:06] in the text
[3:02:11] of the staff report, it says it
[3:02:14] is less
[3:02:17] than 15%.
[3:02:20] would be allowed but
[3:02:21] it requires a feasibility study. Can
[3:02:23] you just restate that or speak to
[3:02:24] it one
[3:02:25] more time?
[3:02:26] >> yeah. So, one of the
[3:02:27] caveats for adopting this is
[3:02:32] that the toc policy has
[3:02:33] a minimum requirement for affordability
[3:02:35] which is
[3:02:38] 15%. They do allow
[3:02:39] us to reduce it or developers to reduce
[3:02:40] it if they can provide substantial
[3:02:46] proof that that would result in infeasibility
[3:02:47] of
[3:02:50] their project. So.
[3:02:51] >> all right. Then
[3:02:53] the
[3:02:55] other question --
[3:02:56] >> from our perspective,
[3:02:57] I was
[3:02:59] going through, what our options were,
[3:03:00] and this
[3:03:01] happened a couple of times with some
[3:03:02] of
[3:03:08] the items
[3:03:10] you brought to us where we start with 30%
[3:03:11] but we end up
[3:03:13] at 50 or whatever but in this particular
[3:03:14] case, 15 is the lowest we
[3:03:17] can go. We don't have any
[3:03:22] flexibility there'd , tonight, at
[3:03:23] least.
[3:03:24] >> so we can
[3:03:25] start at 15%, and if the city conducts
[3:03:26] a feasibility study, we can potentially
[3:03:29] lower it. That would have to be
[3:03:32] reviewed by mtc following but in terms of
[3:03:33] timelines
[3:03:34] for getting the discretionary funding
[3:03:35] ball rolling
[3:03:41] from
[3:03:58] mtc, it's important that we adopt
[3:03:59] an ordinance today and then if
[3:04:01] we need to amend it after we do a
[3:04:02] study, we can do so.
[3:04:03] >>
[3:04:04] on the slide before we had all the
[3:04:05] other cities, there were a couple
[3:04:06] that
[3:04:07] said 5% or something. They would've
[3:04:08] done a feasibility study?
[3:04:09] >> some
[3:04:10] of them
[3:04:11] may have. We weren't able to get into
[3:04:12] that level of research but we are
[3:04:13] also aware that a lot of the cities, knowing
[3:04:14] that they are also going
[3:04:16] to comply with toc policy are probably going
[3:04:17] to have to update their percentages
[3:04:19] as well.
[3:04:20] >> okay. The other thing
[3:04:21] that's in the staff report --
[3:04:22] the weight it was worded in my notes
[3:04:23] are bad but something like it needs
[3:04:25] to average out to 80% ami for those
[3:04:26] 15%. Why did we write it
[3:04:28] that way? Is there another state law
[3:04:29] that requires it?
[3:04:30] >> it is toc policy
[3:04:31] requirement.
[3:04:32] >> toc policy --because
[3:04:33] from
[3:04:38] my perspective,
[3:04:41] I think that I would like to remove
[3:04:43] the requirement for what percentage of
[3:04:44] ami and I would love to
[3:04:45] leave that up to the developer because
[3:04:47] from --it was my understanding that there
[3:04:53] is often
[3:04:55] like grant funding. There's other funding
[3:04:56] sources for low and very
[3:04:58] low, but maybe not for the higher,
[3:04:59] and so if you're a developer that
[3:05:01] has access to that funding, you would want
[3:05:02] to do possibly one way and
[3:05:07] then other developers may want to
[3:05:08] have all of their
[3:05:10] units be moderate and I would rather
[3:05:11] us not dictate that.
[3:05:12] >> again,
[3:05:14] it is a requirement
[3:05:17] in the
[3:05:48] toc policy, but in
[3:05:49] a way, it does provide flexibility
[3:05:50] kind of like in the example that I
[3:05:51] pulled
[3:05:52] up here. They are required to provide
[3:05:53] 28 units but the distribution can
[3:05:54] be up
[3:05:55] to them, so they could say, well,
[3:05:57] we are going to do one acutely
[3:05:58] low at 15% and then do the rest that
[3:06:00] moderate.
[3:06:01] >> so it averages out.
[3:06:02] >> so it averages up. The example
[3:06:03] I provided here is supposed to be
[3:06:04] like an even balance mix.
[3:06:05] >> that one
[3:06:06] doesn't qualify theoretically the
[3:06:07] way you did
[3:06:08] it. Would that be approved?
[3:06:09] >> well,
[3:06:10] the average --it is supposed to be
[3:06:11] less than 80%.
[3:06:12] >> oh, I see. Sorry.
[3:06:13] >> honestly, the way that
[3:06:14] we are hearing from developers is
[3:06:15] a lot of them don't even want to do
[3:06:16] moderate because it is too hard to
[3:06:17] find buyers and renters because the
[3:06:18] people
[3:06:19] in that income category, a lot of
[3:06:20] them don't realize they are eligible
[3:06:21] because
[3:06:22] $180,000, you wouldn't think you would
[3:06:23] be eligible for affordable housing
[3:06:24] but to a lot
[3:06:25] of people in that income category
[3:06:26] have so much upward mobility that
[3:06:27] they could see
[3:06:28] themselves out of affordable housing,
[3:06:29] so. They're not really trying to do
[3:06:30] a lot of
[3:06:31] moderate housing from what we've heard.
[3:06:32] >> so for now, staff recommendation
[3:06:33] is to
[3:06:34] be consistent with the way the toc
[3:06:36] policy is written
[3:06:38] and if we find any acute problems,
[3:06:39] we
[3:06:40] can circle back with a feasibility
[3:06:42] study or something.
[3:06:43] >> yes.
[3:06:48] >> okay.
[3:06:51] >>
[3:06:52] I was going to say very quickly, sorry,
[3:06:54] that the framing that you did, brandon,
[3:06:57] at the outset in
[3:06:59] terms of affordable, that was spot
[3:07:00] on.
[3:07:01] I've had similar conversations with folks in the
[3:07:02] community. They are shocked when I
[3:07:03] tell
[3:07:09] them that.
[3:07:11] people have such a negative connotation
[3:07:12] in terms of what
[3:07:13] affordable is. They are thinking the
[3:07:15] lowest of the low, and that is not
[3:07:16] theirs
[3:07:18] that is simply not true.
[3:07:19] I mean, the statistics that you shared
[3:07:21] bear that out and I think it's something
[3:07:22] that we collectively need to be mindful
[3:07:24] of as in our negations with
[3:07:30] community members, as affordable is
[3:07:31] not,
[3:07:33] you know, what you think it is.
[3:07:35] you know. And getting more and more
[3:07:36] challenging if
[3:07:37] anything. Even for folks, like you
[3:07:45] said --
[3:07:57] and other
[3:07:58] parts of the country, sure. Six figures.
[3:07:59] the six figures. He would be pretty comfortable.
[3:08:00] that is not
[3:08:01] the case here, and I think that's
[3:08:03] really important for us, so what I
[3:08:04] really
[3:08:05] like about this, you know, and I appreciate
[3:08:06] the earlier conversation, is providing
[3:08:07] that
[3:08:08] flexibility. Not making it so rigid
[3:08:09] that it's going to
[3:08:10] unnecessarily drive up the cost because
[3:08:12] our goal --certainly michael --has
[3:08:13] been,
[3:08:14] had we make this a more attractive
[3:08:15] place for developers to come and say,
[3:08:16] hey,
[3:08:17] we want to invest in your community.
[3:08:18] we want to help those folks that
[3:08:21] are, you know, that are
[3:08:23] fit that affordable [ inaudible ]
[3:08:30] the affordability
[3:08:45] equation you laid out.
[3:08:46] we need to create those options. Because
[3:08:47] right now, we historically have not met
[3:08:48] that challenge, so we have a
[3:08:50] lot of work to do, but I appreciate
[3:08:51] you bringing this forward to us
[3:08:52] tonight, so, hopefully --I would love
[3:08:54] to get a report out within a year
[3:08:56] to see where we stand.
[3:08:57] >> just to
[3:08:58] opine on that, we do the
[3:08:59] annual progress report every year
[3:09:00] which is
[3:09:03] required by hcd which
[3:09:04] we update with unit counts including
[3:09:05] any affordable units and we present
[3:09:06] it to the
[3:09:07] city council it's a year. That comes
[3:09:09] around in april or march. Yeah.
[3:09:10] >>
[3:09:11] okay.
[3:09:12] I'm going to open this
[3:09:15] up to
[3:09:16] public comment because we have not
[3:09:18] done that yet. Tom, would you like
[3:09:19] to make
[3:09:20] any comments this evening? We got a
[3:09:21] note thank you headshake. Anyone in
[3:09:22] the
[3:09:23] virtual audience like to provide comment
[3:09:24] on this item?
[3:09:25] >> please use the
[3:09:27] virtual
[3:09:30] hand feature. I have
[3:09:31] no hands.
[3:09:32] >> audit. With the council
[3:09:33] like to make any final comments or
[3:09:34] make
[3:09:36] a motion?
[3:09:37] >> so
[3:09:39] how do we
[3:09:42] freeze this
[3:09:48] without reading all
[3:09:50] of this?
[3:09:51] >> you can say move the staff
[3:09:52] recommendation.
[3:09:53] >> yeah. >> I'd like
[3:09:54] to
[3:09:55] move the staff recommendation.
[3:09:56] >>
[3:09:57] second.
[3:09:58] >> all in favor, please say
[3:10:00] aye.
[3:10:05] >> aye. >> wonderful. Thank you so
[3:10:06] much.
[3:10:07] >> normally
[3:10:08] I would pause and say it is 10:20
[3:10:09] and we want to continue but we
[3:10:11] are at the end of the agenda and it's just going
[3:10:12] to
[3:10:13] be comments and things. I would like
[3:10:14] to recommend that we keep going. Is
[3:10:15] available with that?
[3:10:18] all right. Chief of
[3:10:21] police comments.
[3:10:29] >> thank you, mayor. We did unfortunately
[3:10:30] on tuesday evening had a
[3:10:31] physical altercation which reported
[3:10:33] --resulted in a death. That case is
[3:10:34] being investigated as
[3:10:35] a homicide and there was an arrest
[3:10:36] made and we
[3:10:39] send out a press release regarding
[3:10:40] that and our hearts
[3:10:41] go out to the folks invited by the
[3:10:42] situation including the victim that
[3:10:43] lost
[3:10:45] her life. That
[3:10:48] concludes my report.
[3:10:49] >> thank you. Can I
[3:10:50] ask a follow-up on
[3:10:51] this? There were several comments
[3:10:54] on rants and raves and
[3:11:00] social media
[3:11:02] about this with half information.
[3:11:03] where does the police
[3:11:04] department post their press releases so we
[3:11:06] can just simply respond and direct
[3:11:07] people
[3:11:09] to that?
[3:11:10] >> so we send them out to
[3:11:11] the media
[3:11:12] outlets, but I can look at putting
[3:11:13] it somewhere so you
[3:11:19] can respond
[3:11:40] back with that.
[3:11:41] >> said if someone is not already
[3:11:42] on the police department's mailing
[3:11:43] list, they wouldn't
[3:11:44] necessarily get that press release.
[3:11:45] >> correct but they also usually get
[3:11:46] put out on
[3:11:47] social but I don't know this one has
[3:11:49] gone out in that direction. I
[3:11:50] don't believe that it has.
[3:11:51] >> okay.
[3:11:52] I'll follow up with you and it may
[3:11:53] --I think it may have gotten to the
[3:11:55] news already.
[3:11:56] >>
[3:11:57] it did. We did it on camera while you
[3:11:58] were in closed session.
[3:11:59] >>
[3:12:00] thank you.
[3:12:01] >> all right. City manager
[3:12:02] update.
[3:12:03] >> all right. We are going
[3:12:04] to start with an update from yves
[3:12:05] on the 2025 holidays. Community events
[3:12:08] and programs.
[3:12:09] >> good evening, council. We
[3:12:10] have a lot of holiday events coming
[3:12:11] up.
[3:12:12] I'll try to keep this quick and brief
[3:12:13] but there is a lot of
[3:12:14] exciting things to share, so starting
[3:12:15] off actually this friday, and the
[3:12:16] downtown from 5:00
[3:12:17] to 9:00 p.m., we have pink friday,
[3:12:19] and this event has a
[3:12:20] lot going on. It has the other evening
[3:12:21] holiday market, sip and shop candycane
[3:12:22] lane, live
[3:12:23] entertainment, toys for tots toy drive
[3:12:25] and the christmas tree lighting also
[3:12:26] and very excited to have the council
[3:12:34] at the
[3:12:35] christmas tree lighting. That will be
[3:12:37] at 7:30 p.m. So looking forward
[3:12:38] to celebrating the start of the festive
[3:12:40] season downtown
[3:12:43] on friday. Then on
[3:12:44] saturday, november 22nd from 9:00
[3:12:45] a.m. To 3:00 p.m., we have the harvest
[3:12:46] craft fair at
[3:12:49] the
[3:12:52] senior center. And you get free
[3:12:53] hot chocolate, and it's a free public
[3:12:55] event where you get to get
[3:12:56] the jump on your holiday shopping
[3:12:58] from
[3:13:01] local artisans. Great crafts, and
[3:13:02] it really is a very big event for
[3:13:04] the senior center so we hope to
[3:13:06] see everyone there, also. Santa house
[3:13:08] hours are going to start after thanksgiving,
[3:13:10] november
[3:13:14] 29th. Downtown martinez will be posting
[3:13:15] information on their website soon
[3:13:16] for the
[3:13:17] actual schedule of days and hours
[3:13:19] were you can go visit santa downtown so
[3:13:20] that's always an exciting part for
[3:13:22] the community. Friday,
[3:13:25] december 5th is the parade
[3:13:30] of lights. The annual holiday parade downtown. That
[3:13:31] will be at
[3:13:34] 7:00 p.m. We
[3:13:35] do have a new parade route this year
[3:13:37] that we are going to be trailing where
[3:13:40] we start on ward and go
[3:13:46] down towards
[3:13:48] el hambra. This will be giving the
[3:13:49] community a ton more room to
[3:13:52] get that front seat spectator spot
[3:13:55] to watch the parade
[3:13:58] go by.
[3:14:00] you don't have to tread a crane your
[3:14:01] neck over a
[3:14:03] bunch of people in front of you. You
[3:14:04] can see it up close and
[3:14:05] personal so we are looking forward
[3:14:07] to having the community be able to
[3:14:08] get that
[3:14:10] front road --row and spread out a
[3:14:11] little bit. Not for credit but still
[3:14:13] be in the downtown area to enjoy it.
[3:14:14] there's
[3:14:16] also a I spy
[3:14:22] a ranger team this year. We will show
[3:14:23] that on social media all the different
[3:14:25] ways to participate in that scavenger
[3:14:28] hunt. And then, also,
[3:14:31] let's see.
[3:14:32] on december 12 at 6:00 p.m. There
[3:14:34] is a committee organized event
[3:14:37] for the martinez
[3:14:38] lighted boat parade and this will
[3:14:40] be the first year hopefully of this
[3:14:41] new annual
[3:14:42] tradition, and, we invite everyone
[3:14:45] to go down to the martinez fishing
[3:14:46] pier and watch the
[3:14:47] parade of festively decorated boats
[3:14:55] go by.
[3:14:58] so, those were all of the main
[3:14:59] holiday events that are currently
[3:15:00] scheduled. There may be more to come,
[3:15:01] and we look forward to sharing
[3:15:04] this with you at
[3:15:06] that time.
[3:15:07] >> yves, can you repeat
[3:15:08] the date
[3:15:09] of the senior center craft fair?
[3:15:10] >>
[3:15:11] that is november 22nd. It is actually
[3:15:13] this saturday.
[3:15:14] >> and
[3:15:15] are the council assumed to be in the
[3:15:16] parade
[3:15:19] of lights? Do we already have a spot?
[3:15:24] >> yes. You have to have a spot with all
[3:15:25] the bells and whistles.
[3:15:27] >> perfect. >> I'll be calling all
[3:15:28] of you
[3:15:34] for that.
[3:15:39] >> when is that? What's the date on
[3:15:40] that?
[3:15:41] >> december 5th on the first
[3:15:43] friday
[3:15:46] of december.
[3:16:03] >> and to clarify, we are doing the
[3:16:04] tree lighting this friday.
[3:16:05] >>
[3:16:06] yes. The tree lighting is this friday,
[3:16:07] november 21st.
[3:16:08] >> before thanksgiving.
[3:16:09] >> before
[3:16:10] thanksgiving because we really love
[3:16:11] holidays and it will be at 7:30 p.m.
[3:16:12] the
[3:16:13] actual pink event friday is going
[3:16:14] to be from 5:00 p.m. To 9:00 p.m.
[3:16:15] >>
[3:16:16] okay. All right.
[3:16:18] say nothing. You should let folks
[3:16:19] cut the turkey before you
[3:16:21] light the tree but that's just me.
[3:16:22] but hey, costco thought it was christmas
[3:16:23] in august
[3:16:24] so what do I know.
[3:16:25] >> so, jay, since
[3:16:26] you are the vice mayor and
[3:16:27] I booked my flights for thanksgiving
[3:16:28] before I knew the tree lighting was
[3:16:29] on the
[3:16:30] 21st, you are officially in charge
[3:16:31] on
[3:16:33] friday. Great.
[3:16:34] >> those are all the
[3:16:35] holiday
[3:16:40] events.
[3:16:41] >>
[3:16:43] excellent. Thank you so much.
[3:16:44] >>
[3:16:45] so, a couple more things. Jill has
[3:16:46] an update on the holiday guide that
[3:16:47] she
[3:16:48] wants to share with everyone.
[3:16:49] >> [
[3:16:50] inaudible ] I wanted to add,
[3:16:52] as well, that
[3:16:55] the downtown
[3:16:57] martinez in partnership with the city
[3:16:58] is creating the first ever holiday
[3:17:00] gift guide. 16 pages, and it will be
[3:17:02] inserted
[3:17:08] into your
[3:17:10] town monthly, which they have presence
[3:17:11] and a lot of our surrounding jurisdictions
[3:17:13] but not in martinez so they are new to
[3:17:15] the martinez for this. It will reach
[3:17:16] over 10,000 households as well as
[3:17:17] we will have
[3:17:19] standalone guides that will be pulled
[3:17:20] out
[3:17:21] and shared at the tree lighting event,
[3:17:22] as well as the participating businesses
[3:17:23] will have
[3:17:24] copies. We'll also have qr codes in
[3:17:25] different posters around at the stores
[3:17:27] that people can scan and then view
[3:17:29] the guide with
[3:17:31] all the [ inaudible ] layers --shop
[3:17:32] local
[3:17:38] --
[3:17:47] 's all with the intent
[3:17:48] to get to the shop local this holiday season.
[3:17:50] [ inaudible ]
[3:17:51] >> great. Thank
[3:17:52] you.
[3:17:53] >> yes. The last thing I want
[3:17:54] to mention is we did have
[3:17:55] a fantastic ribbon-cutting reopening
[3:17:56] of fishing pier back on november
[3:17:59] 8th. In the mist, in the
[3:18:00] fog that was rolling in that morning
[3:18:01] with 100+ of our closest friends.
[3:18:02] it was
[3:18:04] fantastic. One thing that wasn't ready for the
[3:18:05] grand opening but is about
[3:18:08] to be installed at
[3:18:11] the peer
[3:18:13] are the fishing pole holders. Joe
[3:18:14] just got 12 of them
[3:18:15] in. Public works is going to be installing
[3:18:17] them. They might even be ready by
[3:18:18] the weekend. That was one thing that
[3:18:20] we hadn't quite gotten to.
[3:18:21] >> and
[3:18:22] they want to be pvc pipes screwed
[3:18:23] into the
[3:18:29] railing. Right?
[3:18:32] great.
[3:18:33] >> that's all I had. >>
[3:18:34] okay. Next one is subcommittee and
[3:18:35] outside agency reports. You are welcome
[3:18:36] to keep
[3:18:37] it brief. I think many of the things
[3:18:38] that we've talked about tonight were
[3:18:41] covered already. Is there anything
[3:18:42] else
[3:18:43] from subcommittee that you would like
[3:18:44] to report out on? Economic developers
[3:18:45] or budget
[3:18:46] and finance?
[3:18:47] >> yes, mayor. Just very
[3:18:48] quickly, council member mckillop and
[3:18:49] I sit on
[3:18:50] the economic development
[3:18:53] subcommittee. We had a robust discussion
[3:18:56] with kaiser permanente and
[3:18:59] the county
[3:19:04] hospital who provided of reviews of their
[3:19:05] operations here in martinez and a
[3:19:06] discussion
[3:19:07] about the impacts of some of the rim
[3:19:08] healthcare cuts as a result
[3:19:11] of recent federal actions that
[3:19:14] were undertaken.
[3:19:16] one thing which was news to me was
[3:19:17] that in
[3:19:18] spite of that, the county hospital
[3:19:20] is actually looking at a very ambitious
[3:19:21] expansion, so they are going to be
[3:19:23] doing a lot of construction
[3:19:26] it sounds like in the very
[3:19:29] near future.
[3:20:00] which will no doubt bring a lot of construction workers
[3:20:02] into martinez, but also, there will
[3:20:03] be some
[3:20:04] associated headaches, perhaps with
[3:20:05] that. We want to make sure we mitigate
[3:20:06] that to
[3:20:07] the extent possible, and so, I think
[3:20:08] we got a commitment from them. They
[3:20:09] have
[3:20:10] a plan in place to do that. The v-8
[3:20:11] was not able to participate because
[3:20:12] of the federal government shutdown
[3:20:14] which is still going on but we hope
[3:20:15] to
[3:20:16] bring them back, but would love to
[3:20:17] be able to schedule tours of all
[3:20:18] of those facilities at some point
[3:20:20] next year, as well, so. But that was
[3:20:21] it. Debbie, did I miss anything?
[3:20:22] >>
[3:20:23] I think you mentioned all the things
[3:20:24] we discussed.
[3:20:25] coincidentally, this morning, I got
[3:20:26] to meet with david culberson, the
[3:20:27] ceo of the
[3:20:28] hospital, and we got to see where
[3:20:29] the new building is going to be built
[3:20:31] in the future. I was there on another
[3:20:32] unrelated matter but got
[3:20:33] to visit the hospital, and they will
[3:20:35] be a lot of change and I'm looking
[3:20:37] forward to that, as well.
[3:20:38] >> the one
[3:20:39] thing I think was really a
[3:20:41] big take
[3:20:44] away was, we
[3:20:46] are a city of 36,000 but we have these
[3:20:47] three medical centers and they
[3:20:49] are a huge linchpin for our community. There's
[3:20:50] a lot of martinez residence and played
[3:20:52] at those centers but then when you
[3:20:53] think about
[3:20:55] the economic impact that these facilities
[3:20:56] have, it was a
[3:20:58] really good, it was one of the better
[3:20:59] subcommittees I have to say that
[3:21:00] --meetings that I've had the opportunity
[3:21:02] to participate in. Anyway, that was
[3:21:08] it.
[3:21:09] >>
[3:21:14] one of the
[3:21:15] additional challenges they talked about
[3:21:17] was parking and so hopefully we can find
[3:21:18] ways in which
[3:21:19] we can help support some of their
[3:21:20] parking needs especially during construction
[3:21:21] phases in
[3:21:22] early next year or by 2026.
[3:21:23] >> are
[3:21:24] you about kaiser? Or the county?
[3:21:25] >>
[3:21:26] the county.
[3:21:27] >> mike, would you like
[3:21:28] to speak to the parking coronation
[3:21:29] that
[3:21:30] you are doing with the county?
[3:21:31] >>
[3:21:32] you
[3:21:33] can.
[3:21:34] >> the county has approached
[3:21:35] the city asking to be able to use
[3:21:36] part
[3:21:37] of the marina temporarily for a few
[3:21:38] years.
[3:21:39] we also wanted to coordinator with
[3:21:40] state
[3:21:41] lands to see if that was acceptable
[3:21:42] and they believe they can make an
[3:21:43] exception
[3:21:44] for that type of
[3:21:46] use for a temporary basis. We've been
[3:21:47] working with
[3:21:53] the county
[3:22:02] they
[3:22:04] need to go forward to the board of supervisors
[3:22:05] to get approval before we
[3:22:07] were able to bring it back to the
[3:22:08] council for discussion, and they did
[3:22:09] that yesterday,
[3:22:10] so they got approval yesterday so
[3:22:11] the goal would be to try to bring
[3:22:12] something
[3:22:13] before the council before the end
[3:22:14] of the year because they actually
[3:22:15] need the
[3:22:16] temporary parking as soon as possible.
[3:22:17] and then we figured, the two years,
[3:22:18] we would
[3:22:19] have a discussion based on where we
[3:22:20] are the conversation to see if we
[3:22:21] get
[3:22:22] accepted for another year.
[3:22:23] >> with
[3:22:24] that generate revenue?
[3:22:25] >> it would
[3:22:26] actually, yes.
[3:22:27] he would generate revenue. Part of
[3:22:28] the agreement would
[3:22:31] be -- [ inaudible ] that went on out
[3:22:32] there as well as some restriping that
[3:22:33] will
[3:22:34] happen. It's part of the agreement
[3:22:35] that the county will be reimbursing
[3:22:36] us
[3:22:37] for that cost as well as doing $12,000 a
[3:22:38] year for license agreement.
[3:22:42] >> and this is coming back
[3:22:43] to us at a future date, so you have to
[3:22:45] go into
[3:22:50] much detail.
[3:22:51] >> thanks. >> the other subcommittee
[3:22:52] report out
[3:22:53] is for budget and finance subcommittee. You
[3:22:54] guys
[3:22:59] met two days ago. As testing boy scouts
[3:23:00] --'s but you came
[3:23:01] in and disrupted our meeting. I wanted
[3:23:03] to note that
[3:23:09] for our
[3:23:12] . We were heavily in a
[3:23:13] budget and finance subcommittee.
[3:23:14] >>
[3:23:15] and they were respectful. They were
[3:23:16] quiet and
[3:23:17] they made squeaky noises with their
[3:23:18] shoes.
[3:23:19] >> they did squeak. A lot of
[3:23:20] squeaking. [
[3:23:21] inaudible -overlapping speakers ] 's
[3:23:22] but just the two items that we heard
[3:23:23] in regards to the purchasing policy,
[3:23:24] because we are working on a revised
[3:23:25] purchasing
[3:23:26] policy for the city, and the other
[3:23:27] was reviewing the citywide payment
[3:23:33] processing system.
[3:23:57] there
[3:23:58] are some vendors we need to select
[3:23:59] from so we've narrowed down the field
[3:24:00] and that
[3:24:02] will come back to us, but it was awfully cute
[3:24:03] to see all the boy
[3:24:04] scouts come in. The council chambers
[3:24:05] were empty. I don't think there was
[3:24:06] like
[3:24:07] one person there. And all of a sudden,
[3:24:09] it was filled with all of these
[3:24:10] children, and they sat quietly for,
[3:24:11] you know, a good 10 minutes, taking
[3:24:12] it
[3:24:14] all in. And then they just left, and
[3:24:15] went on their way, so it is
[3:24:16] really nice to see them. It was kind
[3:24:18] of cute.
[3:24:19] >> we did debrief and
[3:24:20] I asked them for any feedback of what they had heard
[3:24:21] and learned.
[3:24:22] >>
[3:24:23] and what did they say?
[3:24:24] >> I can't
[3:24:25] even remember but they all earned
[3:24:26] their
[3:24:27] badges for community involvement that
[3:24:28] night.
[3:24:29] >> they were riveted. >> they
[3:24:30] did report
[3:24:31] words
[3:24:33] I know
[3:24:35] you had been saying so I knew they were
[3:24:36] listening.
[3:24:37] >> is
[3:24:38] for us at that agency report outs,
[3:24:39] I wanted to give a quick note that
[3:24:40] we
[3:24:41] had our quarterly meeting with the
[3:24:42] county representatives. A report out on
[3:24:43] this periodically.
[3:24:44] we have a standing meeting with the
[3:24:45] folks from the jail, from housing
[3:24:46] and
[3:24:48] homelessness services with
[3:24:50] a 3 with the hospital and david culberson's
[3:24:51] on that call because he represents
[3:24:52] the hospital. The biggest concerns of course
[3:24:54] are releasing people from the jail,
[3:24:55] releasing people
[3:24:56] from psychiatric emergency services
[3:24:57] and everyone
[3:25:03] kind of being
[3:25:04] in martinez and not necessarily having
[3:25:05] transportation or taking advantage
[3:25:06] of transportation and leaving, so,
[3:25:08] that was the driver for starting that meeting
[3:25:09] this past meeting that we
[3:25:10] had really was talking a lot about
[3:25:11] mental health issues, and we were
[3:25:12] able to
[3:25:13] provide after that meeting some stats
[3:25:15] for --from martinez on some of the
[3:25:16] issues
[3:25:18] that we have been
[3:25:21] having with
[3:25:24] mental health
[3:25:25] calls and not getting the support
[3:25:27] that we need from the county, so that
[3:25:28] was that
[3:25:29] meeting that we had. Any other outside
[3:25:30] agency meetings that we attended?
[3:25:31] >> yeah. Celeste
[3:25:32] thursday, november 13th, attended
[3:25:33] our trans pack
[3:25:35] committee meeting. One of the big
[3:25:39] items
[3:25:42] is measured j21a
[3:25:47] fund safe transportation for children
[3:25:48] which includes funding
[3:25:51] to improve
[3:25:52] transportation access and safety for
[3:25:54] students in our sub impact region.
[3:25:55] so, we approved funds in
[3:25:57] the amount
[3:26:00] of 41,000 two
[3:26:03] participate
[3:26:06] in a two-month
[3:26:08] summer program. It would be june and
[3:26:09] july of 2026 for
[3:26:12] youth ages
[3:26:14] 6 to 18 can ride buses free without
[3:26:15] passes.
[3:26:18] and then, on the heels of that will
[3:26:21] be the existing past the class school
[3:26:27] your program
[3:26:33] which is august
[3:26:34] to september next year, providing
[3:26:35] free passes to enrolled students.
[3:26:36] so we
[3:26:38] will be contributing $41,000 so students can
[3:26:39] ride free in june and july. We
[3:26:40] also asked staff because it seems
[3:26:44] a bit cumbersome, but we have asked
[3:26:45] staff to
[3:26:48] see about if we
[3:26:51] could extend that free time
[3:26:57] without enrollment
[3:26:59] because with children being able to write
[3:27:00] for free for june and july, they
[3:27:03] just get on a bus. They
[3:27:05] don't have to enroll. And some of
[3:27:06] the information we got back is that
[3:27:07] the
[3:27:08] parents really appreciate it because
[3:27:09] it kept them out
[3:27:11] of cars. Kept gas bills down. So we
[3:27:12] want to just
[3:27:15] see about --because in
[3:27:20] our measured j21a fund, we've got 4.2 million
[3:27:21] available, so we can easily
[3:27:24] for four months
[3:27:26] have folks write for free, so that
[3:27:27] came out of
[3:27:32] our meeting.
[3:27:33] >> anybody? >> just very quickly, I
[3:27:34] did have
[3:27:36] an opportunity to attend the unveiling
[3:27:37] of the
[3:27:39] latest fairy was introduced
[3:27:42] by our ferry operator, so I would like
[3:27:48] to think jim wonderment and the staff for
[3:27:49] their hospitality.
[3:27:51] they recognize the
[3:27:52] city of martinez at the event so I
[3:27:54] appreciated
[3:27:57] that.
[3:27:59] and, yeah. It was really nice to be able
[3:28:00] to connect with other local
[3:28:03] elected's and see and learn more about
[3:28:04] the
[3:28:09] upcoming technologies
[3:28:12] they helped unveil, so that's it.
[3:28:13] >>
[3:28:14] right. The only thing that's left
[3:28:15] is city council comments. Debbie,
[3:28:16] do you want
[3:28:18] to start?
[3:28:19] >> I just wanted to call
[3:28:21] out that tonight in
[3:28:24] our
[3:28:26] consent calendar, we approved the free
[3:28:27] parking in the
[3:28:32] downtown area. I don't think I was like
[3:28:33] touched on. I don't
[3:28:34] know if we actually said anything
[3:28:36] about that, but that goes into effect
[3:28:40] november 27th through january
[3:28:43] 5th, so,
[3:28:47] unfortunately, it's just after the
[3:28:49] 21st, when we are going
[3:28:50] to do the tree lighting, so the tree
[3:28:51] lighting is before the free parking,
[3:28:52] but,
[3:28:54] I don't know. Maybe we should meet
[3:28:55] at the november 21st.
[3:28:56] anyway, so just want to let people
[3:28:58] know they can go down there and
[3:28:59] park for free and that could hopefully
[3:29:01] encourage them
[3:29:07] -- shopping
[3:29:09] experiences down there. Looking forward to that.
[3:29:11] I'll be at the tree lighting with
[3:29:13] some of my colleagues and I know it's
[3:29:14] a little bit earlier than normal,
[3:29:15] but we are starting the holiday season
[3:29:17] a little early this year. More time
[3:29:18] for shopping. I don't have anything
[3:29:19] else
[3:29:25] to add.
[3:29:29] >> you have anything? >> thank you.
[3:29:30] thank you very much. I too look forward
[3:29:32] to joining everyone at the upcoming
[3:29:33] tree lighting and holiday frolic.
[3:29:34] I want to just call
[3:29:35] out that we have a couple of tree
[3:29:37] plantings that are
[3:29:42] coming up. This saturday at hidden
[3:29:43] valley
[3:29:44] park, november 22nd. 9:00 a.m. In
[3:29:46] collaboration I
[3:29:49] believe with the school. Is
[3:29:55] that correct?
[3:29:58] mpg and e. That will be
[3:29:59] taking place and then we go over to
[3:30:01] pine meadow park on
[3:30:04] december 6th, so both
[3:30:07] coincidentally in district 3,
[3:30:10] so.
[3:30:11] >>
[3:30:22] you are always doing something
[3:30:23] in district 3.
[3:30:24] >> getting some trees
[3:30:25] planted. So come one, come on. I'd
[3:30:26] like
[3:30:27] to thank staff for the excellent job
[3:30:28] that was done with the fishing pier
[3:30:29] which
[3:30:30] was talked about earlier, but also
[3:30:31] the veterans day events. It took a
[3:30:32] lot
[3:30:33] of coordination. It has really great
[3:30:34] turnouts for both and I know there's
[3:30:35] a
[3:30:36] lot of work that goes in behind the
[3:30:37] scenes. That doesn't happen by
[3:30:40] accident, so my
[3:30:43] hats off to
[3:30:44] public works, parks and rec, and everyone.
[3:30:46] it was a team effort. So job well
[3:30:47] done,
[3:30:48] team. Thank you very much. Appreciate
[3:30:49] that. I did want to just very quickly
[3:30:50] follow
[3:30:52] up on the earlier item
[3:30:53] regarding caltrans that came up. I
[3:30:54] too have heard similar concerns and
[3:30:55] you know
[3:30:57] think it speaks to a broader issue
[3:30:58] where it's
[3:31:00] not just the lack of timely response
[3:31:02] on the striping and what have you,
[3:31:04] but, that stretch of highway
[3:31:07] 4,
[3:31:09] folks, between hercules in martinez,
[3:31:10] it's a dump, and it is
[3:31:13] frustrating. Every
[3:31:16] time I
[3:31:19] am
[3:31:20] driving by there, that's like the
[3:31:22] gateway to our city. I'm like, why
[3:31:23] aren't
[3:31:24] they picking this up? How often are
[3:31:25] they sending crews? Highway 24 don't
[3:31:26] look like
[3:31:28] that. It's like, can
[3:31:31] we --
[3:31:34] I
[3:31:35] think there's an opportunity here
[3:31:37] to really engage them and if we need
[3:31:38] to engage our state representatives
[3:31:39] in this conversation, but caltrans
[3:31:40] really needs to step up their
[3:31:41] game. I just feel that more could
[3:31:45] be done. We have a real safety issue
[3:31:46] quite frankly but it's
[3:31:48] also we've spent a lot of time on
[3:31:49] beautification of
[3:31:50] our city. What about beautification
[3:31:52] of the entryway into our city?
[3:31:58] highway 4. So maybe this is something
[3:31:59] we could work collaboratively with
[3:32:00] our counterparts in hercules and see
[3:32:01] if maybe we
[3:32:02] can collectively lean on caltrans
[3:32:04] to
[3:32:10] step up.
[3:32:22] the striping and -- that's
[3:32:23] got to be a priority and the fact -- the
[3:32:25] lack of lighting as well is a
[3:32:27] contributing factor, as well, I have to
[3:32:28] say. It's really dark on highway 4
[3:32:29] at certain points, so you combine
[3:32:31] that with the lack of striping and
[3:32:32] it's a
[3:32:33] real safety issue. So we need to get
[3:32:34] that done. Happy to connect off-line
[3:32:35] in
[3:32:36] terms of how best we can advocate
[3:32:37] on that. The last thing I wanted
[3:32:39] to say --I just wanted to extend my
[3:32:40] heartfelt condolences to the family
[3:32:41] of gwen moore, a longtime munro --
[3:32:43] pardon me. Excuse
[3:32:45] me. Munro. A longtime downtown business
[3:32:46] owner. So I
[3:32:52] was just
[3:32:54] very saddened, like many in our community,
[3:32:55] to learn of her
[3:32:57] passing but just wanted to offer my
[3:32:58] heartfelt condolences to her
[3:33:01] mother, donna, and to all who knew
[3:33:02] and
[3:33:04] loved her, so,
[3:33:07] thank you.
[3:33:22] >> so, for my update,
[3:33:24] just so you know, after you made the
[3:33:25] comment about the striping, I sent
[3:33:26] an email to
[3:33:27] caltrans to our contact and I've seen
[3:33:28] a handful of staff, so
[3:33:29] he is the person who would respond
[3:33:31] to us and I think we can take advantage
[3:33:32] of
[3:33:33] that relationship, and request additional
[3:33:34] things, so, that's that update. So,
[3:33:35] for me, today, I
[3:33:36] got a chance to go to --high school
[3:33:37] to their leadership exchange. We
[3:33:39] had kids in the leadership program
[3:33:46] from seventh
[3:33:57] --2nd to 5th grade. There was a lot of
[3:33:58] local folks and
[3:34:00] the kids got to ask us questions and
[3:34:01] I really enjoyed it, so kudos to
[3:34:03] luciana who is a freshman who coordinated
[3:34:04] all of that. There were about 50 kids
[3:34:06] there. We talked about the tree lighting that I'm able
[3:34:08] to join --so I'm
[3:34:09] glad that you all will be covering
[3:34:10] it. A reminder that the downtown cleanup
[3:34:12] is on saturday the 22nd, and that
[3:34:14] is the last cleanup
[3:34:15] of the year, and that is really to help
[3:34:17] kick off the
[3:34:18] holiday season, you know, spruce up
[3:34:20] our
[3:34:21] downtown for shopping. Happy thanks giving to everybody. I
[3:34:22] will be out of town with extended family
[3:34:23] for the thanksgiving week, so
[3:34:24] thanks to everybody who is covering
[3:34:25] all of the events that are happening.
[3:34:26] the
[3:34:32] hospice tree
[3:34:34] fell a couple of weeks ago so I just wanted
[3:34:36] to remind everybody that the ceremony
[3:34:37] will not be held here in martinez
[3:34:38] on
[3:34:39] december 2nd. They are taking all
[3:34:40] the pleasant hill people and all the
[3:34:41] martinez people
[3:34:42] and going to the concord hospice tree.
[3:34:44] I did into the --with the
[3:34:47] director of hospice
[3:34:50] east bay
[3:35:05] a
[3:35:06] couple of days ago to talk about with
[3:35:07] an entry might look like. Other cities
[3:35:08] aren't finding new trees. They're
[3:35:10] finding new trees to make the hospice
[3:35:11] tree out of so
[3:35:12] I wanted to pass that on to all of
[3:35:14] you because she had even
[3:35:15] acknowledged that our hospice treat
[3:35:16] was in a really weird place. The fact
[3:35:17] that it
[3:35:18] was in the middle of the road someone
[3:35:20] we had events, we had to
[3:35:21] close the road down together. So if
[3:35:23] we can find a beautiful old tree, that's
[3:35:24] in a park or something, that would
[3:35:25] be much more conducive to what they
[3:35:26] are
[3:35:27] looking for, and it would be consistent
[3:35:29] with other cities so if anybody has
[3:35:30] any ideas, I was thinking can part
[3:35:31] might be an interesting location.
[3:35:32] golden hills park
[3:35:33] would be great. There are a lot of
[3:35:35] old trees there, too. Let me know
[3:35:37] if you have any ideas and I know that
[3:35:38] mike had been in touch
[3:35:40] with them, as well, but I don't think
[3:35:41] we have made any decisions,
[3:35:42] right? Okay.
[3:35:43] >> the light of the boat
[3:35:44] parade.
[3:35:45] >> there are fires
[3:35:46] around. And that would be --if anyone
[3:35:47] would like
[3:35:50] to participate,,
[3:35:51] that and just enjoy the new fishing
[3:35:53] pier at night. That is half the goal
[3:35:55] and there will be music and refreshments
[3:35:56] and a variety of things. It
[3:35:58] should be a lot of fun. And then, are you
[3:35:59] going to
[3:36:04] bring up the -- I'll talk about it.
[3:36:05] yeah. So last
[3:36:06] week or the last time, remember, I
[3:36:08] sat in on the board
[3:36:12] of supervisors meeting about covering
[3:36:14] snap benefits.
[3:36:17] step benefits have theoretically been
[3:36:18] funded,
[3:36:20] but food insecurity
[3:36:22] is really even more of an issue this
[3:36:23] year than it
[3:36:26] has been in years past. And so,
[3:36:27] I've been speaking with loaves and
[3:36:29] fishes and
[3:36:31] with jay about the potential for city
[3:36:32] council to
[3:36:34] help contribute toward a protein fund
[3:36:35] for
[3:36:41] the holidays. Turkey,
[3:36:42] chicken, ham, tofu, whatever you might want
[3:36:44] to have for the
[3:36:50] holidays. So
[3:36:51] city council actually has a little
[3:36:52] bit of money in our discretionary
[3:36:53] fund that
[3:36:54] has been unspent so I wanted to propose
[3:36:56] this as an option to donate a
[3:36:58] little extra to our contra costa food
[3:36:59] bank on behalf
[3:37:02] of the city.
[3:37:03] >> yes. >> I second
[3:37:04] that motion.
[3:37:05] >> are you comfortable
[3:37:06] with that,
[3:37:10] as well?
[3:37:11] >> is that --is that intended to
[3:37:12] be direction to the
[3:37:17] city --
[3:37:19] >> yes. >> it's because you are directing
[3:37:20] money to be spent --you can
[3:37:23] direct him to bring it back
[3:37:29] --
[3:37:30] >>
[3:37:35] exactly. I wanted to make
[3:37:36] sure everyone was okay with it. I
[3:37:38] would like to direct mike to bring
[3:37:39] back
[3:37:40] to us at a future --thank you for
[3:37:41] clarifying. I was getting fair --
[3:37:43] to come back to us. Ideally, it would
[3:37:44] be 2000 that we can split
[3:37:45] 1002 each organization, so if you
[3:37:46] can double check to make sure that
[3:37:47] the numbers
[3:37:48] are correct from what's left of the
[3:37:50] budget and then if you can bring it
[3:37:52] back at our next agenda, that would
[3:37:53] be great. Thank you.
[3:37:54] >>
[3:37:55] we don't meet again until december
[3:37:56] 10th, so I
[3:37:59] know that
[3:38:00] probably --I'm sure there will still
[3:38:02] be a need through the holiday but
[3:38:04] it's a little ways out.
[3:38:05] >> thank you
[3:38:06] for the reminder on that. We can
[3:38:07] coordinate.
[3:38:08] >> and I intended to close
[3:38:09] the meeting in honor of gwen
[3:38:11] this evening.
[3:38:12] thank you for bringing [ inaudible
[3:38:14] ]
[3:38:15] >> just do something that's been on
[3:38:16] my mind
[3:38:17] --the day job --and
[3:38:19] we are in the holiday season. Adjust
[3:38:20] the number
[3:38:23] of scams and a
[3:38:26] deep fakes. There is so
[3:38:32] much activity going on in this space
[3:38:34] right now, so the message is, for
[3:38:35] friends, for family, elderly, just
[3:38:38] be careful
[3:38:41] online shopping. Providing
[3:38:47] any information,
[3:38:50] because it is a
[3:38:51] huge, huge issue, and on a daily basis,
[3:38:53] we are getting information on folks
[3:38:56] who have been scammed. Through
[3:38:59] a.I. And social media, so
[3:39:05] just those in this season just for
[3:39:06] folks to just be careful. Just
[3:39:07] be careful, and wishing everybody
[3:39:08] a happy, restful,
[3:39:12] prosperous thanksgiving.
[3:39:13] >> the mayor
[3:39:14] pretty
[3:39:15] much covered all of my talking points,
[3:39:17] which
[3:39:23] is great.
[3:39:29] and I can't
[3:39:30] wait for the tree lighting and cleanup
[3:39:32] and I want to wish everybody a happy
[3:39:33] thanksgiving.
[3:39:34] >> great. Excellent. Well, in that
[3:39:35] case, I would like to adjourn this
[3:39:36] meeting in
[3:39:37] memory of glenn and all that she contributed
[3:39:38] to the martinez community in the downtown
[3:39:40] community and all the activities she
[3:39:41] did at
[3:39:44] first friday for children in transit.
[3:39:45] this meeting is
[3:39:47] now adjourned to our regular scheduled
[3:39:48] meeting on december
[3:39:50] 10th.