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>>Call the meeting to order on Tuesday,

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July 21, 2020 in Council Chambers at

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222 N. Tennessee Street. It is 6:12 PM.

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We will begin with an invocation and

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Pledge of Allegiance. Invocation given

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by Pastor Mark Turman of Crosspoint

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church. Are you there?

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>> I am

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>> Lord, we thank you for this good day as

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We transition from [Indiscernible] and set

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our hearts and minds on this meeting. We

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welcome you into this time and we ask

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that you watch over us and Lord, you

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bring us increased compassion for each

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other in our city, that you give us

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clarity for the business and issues we

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need to discuss and deliberate tonight.

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And we give you praise for the goodness

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and generosity you showed to us

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individually and collectively.

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[Indiscernible] for the Mayor and

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Council persons and thank you for our

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city manager and city staff. We thank

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you that we get to call this place home

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as citizens. Lord give us direction

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understanding, give us clarity and help

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us as we deliberate to do so with pull

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civility toward one another, with

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consideration and patience, give us

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insight that can only come from you.

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Lord, help us to seek the good of the

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city in which we live for all of us. In

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Jesus name we pray, Amen.

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>>[Pledge of Allegiance]

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>> We have public comments on agenda

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items. The first one is Mimi Noris, does

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not wish to speak but once to have her

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opposition to 20040z2 noted

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>> We have a few people that would like

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to speak. Three minutes. On item

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200616, Rwanda [Indiscernible]

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>> Hello Councilman I wanted to say the

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other day I had a wonderful time

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watching La'shadion and the Mayor

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Fuller and Paul Grimes come out to the

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cemetery and help clean up a cemetery

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where black people could only be buried.

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As we look through our history, we

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look through whether it is in McKinney

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or other states we realize there is

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history that is taking place that has

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been belittling to human beings of

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color. This statue is one of those. The

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statues across the states are those.

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Five months from now it will still be

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offensive it is offensive today it's

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going to be offensive when you create a

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task force for it it's going to be

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offensive when they debate whether it

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should be removed or not and I ask you

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to have that level of civility and

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understanding and working together to

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know if it is offensive to people in

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your community then it should not be

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put in the grounds of a court building.

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It does not belong there. The court

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building symbolizes justice for all. We

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just pledged allegiance to the flag,

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justice for all. When we have slave

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traders and history of abusing human

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beings and that is put in front of a

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court building it does not signify

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justice for all. I come to you and I

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ask you to think about that. It can be

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somewhere else but it should never be

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in a court building that has to

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administer or has a history of

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administering justice when it is

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supposed to be justice for all. Thank

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you

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>> [Applause]

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>> [Indiscernible] Johnson

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>> Hello everyone. Throckmorton was in

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opposer of the 14th amendment which

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gave citizenship to everyone born in

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the United States including former

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slaves and their families. It was one

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of three amendments passed during the

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Reconstruction era to establish rights

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for black Americans. The 14th amendment

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was key in landmark Supreme Court

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decision such as brown versus education

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which ruled segregating schools was

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unjust. According to Texas after the

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Civil War, the struggle of

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reconstruction by Carl Monahan a

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professor of history at the University

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of Arkansas in his inaugural address

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Throckmorton on one hand urged Texas

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legislators not to take action that

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would cause the north to doubt their

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loyalty. But on the other encourage

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them not to ratify the 14th amendment.

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Legislators did as he urged. Calling

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the amendment nothing more than an

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effort to raise black above white. They

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voted 70-5 rejected the 14th

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amendment. To raise Blacks above whites

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is not the sentiment behind the 14th

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amendment or the current movement.

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Think about it. Do you really think the

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African-American community is trying to

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set itself above any other group of

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people? Do you really think that? Does

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anyone really think that? Who thinks

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this way? What intelligent person sits

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down and tosses back and forth the

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notion that we are better than they?

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Who does that? I hate to say it but it

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seems that those who do support the

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Confederate movement do just that. The

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point is for equality in humanity,

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people are people, human beings are

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human beings, whether Asian, Black,

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Hispanic, white or whatever. We are not

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asking that the statue be destroyed. We

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are requesting the statue be moved to a

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more appropriate place. Perhaps a

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museum or the Pecan Grove cemetery, the

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gravesite of James Throckmorton. Not

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just the middle of the public square

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which should be a reflection of all.

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>> [Applause]

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>> Eric Scholz.

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>> Good evening. Eric Scholz 1505

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timberline Drive in McKinney. I spoke a

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couple weeks ago and I think it's

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necessary to speak again. A little

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background. From where I'm coming from.

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I am a 15 year Army veteran combat

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disabled. A unit in Grand Prairie born

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and raised in Hillsboro Texas. I am

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certified through Fort Leavenworth

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civil for military history to teach

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military history at the University

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level and I did that and I want

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McKinney to be on the right side of

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history with this and right now we are

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not. For the concerns that we are

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taking away from history, as a military

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history instructor for the United

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States Army and the University of South

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Florida, there is no conflict more

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documented especially on the

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Confederacy side than the US Civil War.

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There are tens of thousands of books

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hundreds of movies, museums, we are not

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losing history by moving the statue.

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I've also charted every Confederate

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monument in the Dallas-Fort Worth

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metropolitan area and surrounding

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areas. This is the last one standing in

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the metropolitan area. You are not

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going to be first but right now you are

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last at DFW and we need BB on the right

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side of history with this. The reason

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they took them down obviously they been

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debating the statues for years and

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decades but it's also a public safety

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issue. If we don't take this down

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immediately, then there is a great risk

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that it could be taken down without

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official support and that could be that

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could hurt the people taking it down or

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people responding to that trying to

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defend the statue and we don't want to

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see anyone hurt in the city. I ask that

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the city Council moved today to bring

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down the statue. No commission, no

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study, bring it down today move it

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somewhere and then have a commission

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what you want to do after that but if

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you don't take it down immediately you

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are risking harm to the people in

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McKinney.

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>> Debbie [Indiscernible]

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>> After all those people I can't tell

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you how frivolous I want to talk about

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will sound to you but it's not

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frivolous to the unincorporated

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citizens. I'd like to thank you for

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your service and everything you've done.

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I don't know anybody who would want to

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be Mayor or Councilman or leader it's a

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hard time and you are you're doing your

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best. I am a single mom of four young

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adults the youngest one in the last

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year at UT. All four went to McKinney

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schools and at one time I had a child in

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all schools at the same time I talked

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for McKinney ISD. My mom moved here

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from Stonebridge was on a piece of

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paper and she took me to her meeting

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and I said if you think they will put a

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beach in the middle of the field you

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have lost your mind but they did. My

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grandson will be [Indiscernible] and we

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will have five generations of my family

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that have moved to McKinney. I could

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not send for kids to college on a

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school teacher salary. [Indiscernible]

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I opened a wedding venue and I know you

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had people here are a couple of months

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ago and I was not here because my I had

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my first granddaughter. The clearest

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picture I can give you what's happening

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in the wedding industry is you have a

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[Indiscernible] and you come back to

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the wedding industry and say give me

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another car and now we have people

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coming back and saying give me another

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car. I have an angry mom coming

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tomorrow that thinks I should lose

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$15,000 changing her day twice. I lost

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over $160,000. I do this on my own and

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don't have financing our banks. You can

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imagine how excited I was when I heard

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about the [Indiscernible] obviously my

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financial issues. Are none of your

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problems and you don't have anything to

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do about it but when I found out after

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paying McKinney taxes by generation of

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taxes all my kids grew up in McKinney I

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had two houses and my third one is two

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miles outside the city and being two

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miles outside of the city I was not

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allowed to apply for any of the money.

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We have 600 guests per week and. I'm

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the only venue in the City of McKinney

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in the McKinney area that is in the not

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Hall of Fame. You may not have heard of

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me, that's fine I had not heard of you

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until I looked you up. Scott Elliott

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you do not have a synopsis on the

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commission page. Because you have been

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here a long time I think you understand

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I'm a citizen of McKinney. So I'm

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asking you to ask the county if they

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can open it up to the unincorporated

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area and I'd like to say on that form

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it asks if you are renting a business

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or leasing, it should knockout people

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that own their own business it also

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asks for the inventory some of us have

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inventory that can't be a dollar amount

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it's a day or another. Thank you for

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listening to me, I brought the horse is

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a dead horse and I may be beating a

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dead horse but thank you

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>> Are there any other speakers?

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>> We also have an agenda item

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[Indiscernible] Rodney Clark has

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submitted a notice of support for

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agenda item 200026.

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>> Let that be part of the record

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>> I do not have any other comments for

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items, we will move on to the consent

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agenda, items consisting of

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non-controversial, the public comments

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>> Consent agenda consists of

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non-controversial housekeeping required

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by law and may be considered

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individually by any Council member

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making such request prior to a motion

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to vote on the consent items

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>> Is there any item on the consent a

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Council member would like to pull down?

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If not, I will accept a motion to

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approve

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>> Move to approve, second

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>> All in favor? Motion passes

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>> Plaque consideration. Items under

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this subcategory require separate

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consideration pursuant to Texas local

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government code the staff

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recommendation described the necessary

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form of action required on each plat a

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motion to approve in accordance with

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staff recommendation will result in

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approval.

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>> There's one item, 200083pf act on a

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preliminary final plat for the JVC real

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estate addition located in the ETJ of

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McKinney 1600 feet north of County Road

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408 and E side of farm to market roads

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>> Staff is recommending approval with

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conditions and variances to the plat.

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I'm happy to answer any questions

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>> Are there questions for Jennifer?

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>> Thank you Jennifer

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>> Move to approve the items

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>> Second

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>> Please vote

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>> Motion passes

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>> 20004z2. A public hearing to act on

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a request to rezone subject property

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from Planned Development District to

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Planned Development District generally

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to modify the use and development

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standards to allow for an indoor and

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outdoor wedding event venue or banquet

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facility

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>> At the time of publishing the agenda

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the applicant requested the table but

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yesterday they request for it to be

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withdrawn for consideration

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>> As it was still on the agenda if

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there are people that would like to

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speak please understand it has been

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withdrawn, which means it has been

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pulled and will not be under

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consideration. I will call these names.

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If anyone did come to speak, make

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yourself [Indiscernible] I don't see any

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. Do we need to do anything for the

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item to be withdrawn?

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>> Nope

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>> We'll move on to the next item

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>> We don't need to open the public

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hearing

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>> If anyone did come I want to give

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them the opportunity to speak but I

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don't see anyone. 200040z2 request the

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subject property from single-family

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residence to duplex residential

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district located beside rock Wall

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Street and 615 feet north of Gerrish

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Street

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>> I would like to note for the record

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that following publishing of the agenda

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staff validated additional signature on

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a protest petition that has been passed

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out to Council. With the protest

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petition qualifying signatures

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representing 20 percent or more of the

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area within the protest area is needed

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to require ace majority vote of the

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Council with the additional signatures

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received it does meet the threshold at

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66 percent. I will get into the item

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more but I wanted to confirm based on

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the Planning and Zoning Commission

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action as well as the protest petition

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a super majority vote is a required.

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>> This request is to rezone .7 acres

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from single-family residence to duplex

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residential district. The applicant has

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worked with city staff and we have

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reviewed the request in relationship to

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the area around it and a comprehensive

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[Indiscernible] higher density

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developments. In the area just south of

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the subject property there is a

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drainage culvert and on the north side

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there is a church. As you see on the

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map, there are a few residences in the

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neighborhood that sees duplex

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structures. With all of those things

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considered staff recommends approval.

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During the Planning and Zoning

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Commission meeting we heard from

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residents citing concerns regarding

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duplexes in this location. After

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discussion the commission voted 7-2

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To recommend denial. Staff recommended

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Approval. P&Z recommends denial and you

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will hear from folks with their

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concerns on the proposed rezoning.

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>> Are there questions for Jennifer?

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>> The duplex zoning that is out there,

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is that all zoning?

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>> Yes

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>> So the majority, the duplex zoning

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[Indiscernible]

386
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>> There is not.

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>> Most of the surrounding is RS 60

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>> Predominantly to the south and as we

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progress north some of the fabric of

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the single-family has dissolved a bit

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with the drainage culvert in the

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church. Those are some of the factors

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we looked at

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>> Any other questions for staff?

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>> I believe the applicant is here

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>> Would the applicant like to come up

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and address Council?

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>> The applicant for this item?

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>> I stand corrected, he must not be

400
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here

401
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>> A gentleman just came in the door

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>> That is not him

403
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>> This is a public hearing. We have

404
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people that would wish to speak.

405
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>> I will call the name and tell you so

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you can be prepared. Jeanette Palmer.

407
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After this, Kimberly Palmer

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>> Registers opposition to the item

409
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>> Kimberly Palmer? Registered as

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opposition to the item

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>> Jonas Palmer Christopher Palmer

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>> Good afternoon. My name is Kimberly

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Palmer and I live at 904

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[Indiscernible] I am here to represent

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the community and the citizens

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surrounding the subject property. This

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community was developed as a single

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family dwelling community in the 1840s

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the subject property is in the heart of

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the community. If duplexes are placed

421
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there it will disturb the atmosphere.

422
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There are 19 homes within the 200 feet

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of the subject property. 10 of the

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residents are elderly. That would

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negatively impact their lives. There

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are several of them I completed the

427
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zoning protests for the community and

428
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there are 26 names on this and my

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husband and I walked the community for

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those adjacent homes surrounding the

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subject property. 10 of the 19 homes or

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elderly members who are over the age of

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70+. They will be negatively impacted

434
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because of the added traffic, not

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knowing who is coming to and from those

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locations at the duplexes. We all know

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and I've seen it for myself because

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I've been around areas in duplexes

439
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before when you have duplexes, people

440
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are there temporarily, not focused on

441
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the community aspect of the community.

442
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They are not trying to get to know

443
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people in the community, they are there

444
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to rest their head temporarily until

445
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they find something permanent. This

446
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would be a detriment to our

447
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single-family dwelling community for

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that reason. I respect you very much if

449
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you would consider not rezoning that

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development

451
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>> Jonas Palmer and then Christopher

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Palmer

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>> How are you doing today? My name is

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Jonas Palmer I'm 21 years old and that

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was my mother that just spoke. She was

456
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talking about statistics and I'm here

457
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to talking about the community. The

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,668
community keeps we are a single-family

459
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,680
dwelling community about how our

460
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community has potentially dissolved

461
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,680
going onto the back streets. I want to

462
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say that is not the case.. After being

463
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,680
there for 21 years we are a close-knit

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community that cares about each other

465
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when new people move and we incorporate

466
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,680
them into our things that have been

467
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,680
into the community. With these duplexes

468
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being put in that may not be the case.

469
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I listen to what my parents are saying

470
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and talking about with the petition and

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the reactions they got from people and

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the general consensus is they do not

473
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,680
want duplexes because I don't feel safe

474
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for their kids or the elderly don't

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feel safe in their homes and they don't

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feel safe taking walks and getting

477
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,680
exercise because of the potential they

478
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680
duplex. Just the placing of it is

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inconvenient, there is no parking for

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the church. It's going to ruin the

481
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,680
overall community feel. Not because

482
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,680
they are temporary movers or they just

483
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,680
come in to rent but because the

484
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
community has been built and set and

485
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,268
it's one it's been a minority community

486
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,680
and incorporating people who don't know

487
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,680
about it who may or may not care about

488
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,468
it and may bring in things that are a

489
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,680
detriment to the community I don't feel

490
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and the community does not feel that's

491
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,680
okay and I wanted to speak on that

492
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thank you for your time

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>> [Applause]

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>> Christopher Palmer and then Maia

495
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Burns

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00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680
>> Christopher?

497
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,680
>> He does not wish to speak but he is

498
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680
in opposition

499
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,680
>> Maia Burns and then Jasmine Burns

500
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680
>> We can register in opposition

501
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,668
>> Maia Burns is in opposition. Jasmine

502
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Burns in opposition.

503
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680
>> After Jasmine will be Gerard

504
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,680
[Indiscernible]

505
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680
>> I have come here today to speak on

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00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,680
behalf of of the people who can't speak

507
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,680
for themselves. That is the elderly

508
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,680
members of the community who live on

509
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,680
Rockwall Street. Every Sunday I make my

510
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,680
rounds and speak to the ones who are

511
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,680
sick or shut in or can't get around. As

512
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,680
I speak to them I get to hear a lot of

513
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680
concerns and how they feel about the

514
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,680
neighborhood. Quite a few of them feel

515
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,668
threatened by the presence of duplexes.

516
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,680
I feel like this is not misplaced

517
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,680
because duplexes do pose a present

518
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,680
danger. Perhaps not in the tenants

519
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,668
themselves but what the duplexes can

520
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,680
bring. The higher traffic that comes

521
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680
from the increased population density

522
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680
will make efforts to come in and out of

523
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,680
the community more difficult. This

524
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,668
isn't just a minor inconvenience for

525
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,680
those of us able-bodied but this can be

526
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,680
an open danger to the elderly members

527
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680
because they may not get the help they

528
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,680
need. My grandfather who lives on

529
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Rockwall Street close to the church is

530
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,668
elderly and disabled and cannot get

531
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,680
around. I am worried a lot of the time

532
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,680
that he may not be able to get the help

533
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,668
he needs because there is something

534
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,680
obstructing first responders

535
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,668
obstructing us from getting to him.

536
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Another elderly member who lives on

537
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,680
that street very sweet woman who is 94

538
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,268
years old can get around really well,

539
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,680
very sweet lady, but I'm also worried

540
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,680
about her safety because she is so much

541
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,680
older I know it's going to be difficult

542
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,680
for people to get to her and to think

543
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,680
that could be stopped by something as

544
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,668
simple as withholding the zoning from

545
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,668
being rezoned, it seems like a

546
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,680
no-brainer fix to me. Over all, that's

547
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680
what I'm worried about as a citizen.

548
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Thank you

549
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>> [Applause]

550
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,268
>> I apologize but it looks like Gerard

551
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,680
[Indiscernible]

552
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,468
>> Afterwards is Angela Henderson

553
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,668
>> Good evening. I've lived here for

554
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
two years. My wife and I decided to

555
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,680
live on the side of McKinney for the

556
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680
sense of community we felt while

557
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,268
researching the area. There's a high a

558
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,680
lot of minorities in the area and deep

559
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680
roots in my neighborhood especially on

560
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680
my corner. The three sets of neighbors

561
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,680
have been there for more than 50 years

562
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,868
and bringing in a set of duplexes will

563
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,680
separate, it won't feel like the

564
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,268
community that is there now. I'm in

565
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,680
opposition of the duplex because I feel

566
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,680
there is not a lot of care for the area

567
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,268
and I think the duplex will make

568
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
district 1 more of a temporary home

569
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,680
instead of the community that's been

570
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
there for 50 years.

571
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,680
>> Thank you

572
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,468
>> Angela Henderson and then

573
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,680
[Indiscernible] Palmer

574
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,668
>> Angela is in opposition to the

575
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,680
rezoning

576
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,680
>> [Indiscernible] Palmer

577
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
>> Good evening. I simply want to say I

578
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,680
grew up in that neighborhood, have gone

579
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,268
to the church in that neighborhood for

580
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,668
50 years. That has been a single-family

581
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,668
home residence. My feeling is bringing

582
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,680
in duplexes is going to allow for

583
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,680
something else, apartments and it will

584
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,680
take away the home feeling in the

585
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,680
neighborhood. As everyone has said,

586
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
there are a lot of elderly people that

587
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,868
I've known all my life. There are other

588
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
neighborhoods in the city that want to

589
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
keep that hometown feeling as McKinney

590
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,680
says, you have that hometown feeling.

591
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,268
In that neighborhood we want to keep

592
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,680
that.

593
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680
>> Sheila Simmons

594
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,680
>> She is in opposition

595
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,680
>> Marco Nobles is...

596
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,268
>> Is there anyone else that would like

597
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680
to speak?

598
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,680
>> Seeing none. Move to close the

599
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,680
public hearing

600
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,680
>> Second

601
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,680
>> All in favor?

602
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680
>> Please vote

603
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,680
>> The public hearing is closed.

604
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Discussion?

605
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,668
>> Kudos to the folks in the

606
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,680
neighborhood. I don't think I've ever

607
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,680
seen as organized a group of folks and

608
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,680
never seen over 60 percent opposition.

609
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,680
They have a neighborhood that's been

610
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,268
that way for decades. A long time.

611
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,680
[Indiscernible] in opposition to this

612
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680
>> I guess that goes the super

613
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,680
majority. As a representative of that

614
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,680
district, I want to say hats off to the

615
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680
community. I remember coming to my

616
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,680
first city Council meeting and one of

617
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,680
the most important things I wanted to

618
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,680
do was make sure my community was

619
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,680
engaged and understood the importance

620
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,680
of local government and city Council

621
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,680
meetings and if you look around and

622
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,468
look out, I could not be more proud. To

623
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,680
see this petition Council member

624
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Elliott and myself they do not have the

625
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,680
super majority and there it goes so

626
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,680
thank you

627
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,680
>> Maybe that's why he did not show up

628
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,868
>> Count me as three against it. I love

629
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,680
the passion. I like to see that in the

630
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,680
community. Thank you all for coming out

631
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,680
and speaking on the item. To me, it

632
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,680
does not look like it fits in your

633
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680
neighborhood so I'm against it

634
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,680
>> Same thing. It's wonderful to see

635
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,868
everybody come out. By the way, such a

636
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,468
very thoughtful and respectful

637
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,680
presentation of opposition. Which is

638
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,680
always refreshing and accomplishes much

639
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,680
more than disrespectful so thank you to

640
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,680
all of you it was fantastic the way you

641
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,680
came in and gave the facts and spoke

642
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,680
passionately but respectfully and thank

643
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
you. I know where I am on this.

644
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680
>> Kimberly I know you are out there.

645
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,680
That's how you do a presentation. And

646
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,680
this is how you put it together. We get

647
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,680
to see these not as organized we've

648
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,680
talked about before where we are

649
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,680
watching a lot of things being built in

650
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,680
our city placing them in spots they

651
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,680
should not be placed and this is one of

652
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,268
them. I've watch with these have done

653
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,680
to communities and it destroys them so

654
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,680
thank you for taking the time effort

655
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,680
and passion to the Council because we

656
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,680
will kill it

657
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,680
>> I'd like to point out

658
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,680
[Indiscernible] second go around

659
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,680
because most all of them were here at

660
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,680
the Planning and Zoning [Indiscernible]

661
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,680
so thank you for your resilience and

662
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,680
coming back

663
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,268
>> I find it fascinating. I will not

664
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,680
support this but we had something in my

665
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,868
district that a lot of people came out.

666
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,680
But this Council went ahead and shoved

667
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,868
it down our throats and passed it. It's

668
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
really interesting, I appreciate these

669
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,680
people coming out and doing that but

670
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,668
this Council plays both sides. The

671
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,268
reasons they gave for not having and

672
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,680
it's not even multifamily just a couple

673
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
of duplexes are the same reasons people

674
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,668
don't like multifamily in their areas

675
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,680
or backyards. So many times, this

676
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Council ignores the pleas of those

677
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,680
people so I find it fascinating we are

678
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,680
all going to vote no on this one

679
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,680
because of these good people. I want

680
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,268
you to remember that the next time

681
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,680
people come against other. Projects in

682
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,668
their neighborhoods they might not be

683
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,680
as organized but they still are sincere

684
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,680
about wanting to keep their

685
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,668
neighborhood what it's like when they

686
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,680
bought it. That's my comment

687
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,668
>> The staff found it just as

688
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,680
fascinating when you voted down the car

689
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,680
lots and then doubled back and

690
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,680
[Indiscernible] so the same dynamic

691
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,680
played when you go from one way to from

692
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,680
one thing and turn around and vote

693
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,680
another way for another thing so you

694
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,680
can't have it both ways

695
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,680
>> [Indiscernible]

696
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
>> Same dynamic

697
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,680
>> [Indiscernible] was a great one to

698
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,680
vote down and whether you didn't

699
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
[Indiscernible]

700
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680
>> Same dynamic. We do everything the

701
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,680
councilman wants us to do and now we

702
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,680
are doing it [Indiscernible] it's the

703
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,680
same dynamic it's what you do every day

704
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,468
>> I have a motion. I move to deny this

705
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,680
>> Second

706
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,680
>> Please cast your votes

707
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,680
>> Motion passes

708
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,268
>> 200048z2, act on a request to rezone

709
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680
subject property from plan center

710
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680
district to residential estates district

711
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,668
600 feet west of US Highway 75 and 200

712
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,680
feet north of White Avenue

713
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,268
>> This is a request to rezone the

714
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,668
subject property from plan center to

715
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Red-1 residential estate

716
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,680
District, it's a 3.8 acre tract staff

717
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,680
has reviewed the request with the

718
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,680
applicant while the property is

719
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,668
currently zoned for commercial uses its

720
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680
location on the west side of a

721
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,680
significant floodplain and has little

722
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,668
to no access for commercial development.

723
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,680
There is an existing home on the site

724
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,680
and the rezoning will allow the

725
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,668
property owner to rebuild and expand

726
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,680
their existing home. We have reviewed

727
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,680
the request and are in support of the

728
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,680
request. The Planning and Zoning

729
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,680
Commission heard the item and

730
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,680
recommends approval and I'm happy to

731
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,680
answer any questions

732
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,468
>> Any questions for Jennifer?

733
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,668
>> My understanding is the applicant is

734
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,680
here

735
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,680
>> Good evening. Cross engineering here

736
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,668
representing the owner. Due to the

737
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,680
limited access commercial use would be

738
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,680
hard on the property so we request to

739
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,680
keep it as a single-family use. He'd

740
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,680
like to construct his home on the

741
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680
property and I'm here to answer any

742
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,680
questions

743
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,680
>> There has been a home there for a

744
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,680
long time

745
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,468
>> Are there any questions?

746
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,680
>> This is a public hearing, would

747
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,680
anyone like to speak?

748
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,680
>> Would anyone like to speak?

749
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,268
>> Move to close the public hearing and

750
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,680
approve the item as presented

751
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,680
>> Second

752
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,680
>> Please cast your votes

753
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,680
>> Motion passes

754
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,680
>> 20002 SUP three, specific use permit

755
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,680
request to allow for an indoor gun

756
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,680
range located northeast corner of

757
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,680
Industrial Boulevard and Millwood Road

758
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680
>> The applicant is requesting a

759
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,680
specific use permit to allow for an

760
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,680
indoor gun range on the subject

761
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,680
property. It is on the north side of

762
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,680
industrial, there are two relatively

763
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,680
new spec industrial buildings on the

764
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680
site currently. The applicant would

765
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,268
like to propose to include an indoor

766
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,680
gun range.. Staff was unable to support

767
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,680
the request it was a tough one for us

768
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,680
because the area is industrial in

769
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680
nature. But on the north side of the

770
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,680
subject property there is a residential

771
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,680
neighborhood that sits 65 feet away

772
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,680
from the proposed range. At the time of

773
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,680
the Planning and Zoning Commission the

774
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,680
applicant requested the indoor gun

775
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,680
range. At the meeting they did request

776
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,668
the applicant tied sound mitigation as

777
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,680
part of the Internet [Indiscernible] we

778
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,680
are appreciative of the proposed

779
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,268
standards they are including in the SUP

780
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,680
which include double cinderblock wall

781
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,680
with a minimum of four inches spray

782
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,680
foam between the cinderblocks. A four

783
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,680
inch concrete roof provided over the

784
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,680
top and rubber burns at the end of each

785
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,680
range. We are appreciative of the sound

786
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,680
mitigations. Staff cannot confirm these

787
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,680
mitigations will alleviate potential

788
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,680
noise outside of the building which is

789
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,680
our concern with being so close to

790
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,680
residential properties. We do have

791
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,680
performance standards to help mitigate

792
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,668
potential noise above a certain decibel.

793
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,680
As part of the research, staff and I

794
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,680
visited Dick few indoor gun ranges and

795
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,680
they did range quite a bit on which

796
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,680
ones we could hear from on the outside

797
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,680
and which ones we could not. That was

798
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,680
the foundation for the recommendation

799
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,668
of denial. The area itself is

800
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,680
industrial so we understand the logic

801
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,680
but with that proximity to residential

802
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,680
we were uncomfortable recommending

803
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,680
approval. Planning and Zoning did hear

804
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,680
this and they recommended approval. And

805
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,680
I'm happy to answer any questions I

806
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,680
believe the applicant is here to speak

807
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,468
>> Jennifer, were there any

808
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,680
[Indiscernible] associated with

809
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,680
[Indiscernible]

810
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,868
>> I don't know what an STC rating is

811
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,680
>> The sound coefficient

812
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,680
[Indiscernible] tells you what decibel

813
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,680
sound you can hear

814
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,680
>> The applicant did do a great job of

815
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,680
providing a variety of sound studies.

816
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,680
None tied to the specific mitigation

817
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,268
they are going to include. They did

818
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,680
show us videos of sound studies done

819
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
inside of a facility and on the roof of

820
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,668
another facility that were within a

821
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
comparable range but they were not tied

822
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
to the mitigation they were proposing.

823
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,680
I'm assuming the applicant is here. You

824
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,680
will hear from him and he will talk

825
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680
about the mitigation they are

826
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,268
proposing, where it is seen. I don't

827
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,680
believe it is here in North Texas but

828
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,680
you can talk more to that

829
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,668
>> Are there any other questions for

830
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,680
staff?

831
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,668
>> Jennifer, what's on the north side

832
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680
of the building? What's outside of the

833
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,680
actual building itself?

834
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,680
>> The only thing is the required

835
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,680
screening wall. Just the rear entry

836
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,680
fire lane and the screening wall

837
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,680
>> The floor plan shows there are five

838
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,268
or six doors on the north side

839
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,680
[Indiscernible]

840
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,268
>> You will hear from the applicant the

841
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,680
range themselves are going East and

842
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680
West so the berms they are proposing

843
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,680
will be on those ends to collect the

844
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,268
bullets and get them out of the

845
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,680
facility. Any doors you see on the rear

846
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680
is just for entry access to the

847
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,680
building.

848
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,680
>> If the applicant could come up.

849
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,668
>> Mr. Mayor and members of Council,

850
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,680
thank you for allowing me time to

851
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,680
speak. I'd also like to thank city

852
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,268
staff for their time and effort they

853
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,680
dedicated my application. Many years

854
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680
ago I was asked which lasts longer the

855
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,268
first car the first girlfriend or your

856
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,680
first 22? I laugh because I knew the

857
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,680
answer but for me it was not a 22 but a

858
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680
3030 my parents got me for my 18th

859
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,680
birthday. Looking back I believe I

860
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,680
sound like Ralphie in a Christmas story

861
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,680
when asked what I wanted and I said mom

862
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680
I want a model 336 3030 lever action

863
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,680
rifle. My father introduced me to

864
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,680
shooting when I was eight. We would go

865
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,680
to our family property in Little Elm

866
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,680
and I would shoot his 22 rifle for as

867
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,680
long as he would let me. He not only

868
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,868
taught me how to shoot how to shoot

869
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,680
responsibly. As a surgeon he had seen

870
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,680
the damage the improper use of firearms

871
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,680
cost. He taught me the consequences of

872
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,680
not being responsible. Those lessons

873
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,680
have stuck with me and I have passed

874
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,868
them on to my children and anyone I

875
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,680
teach. What my father did not know is

876
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,680
he open the door to a sport I love and

877
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,680
enjoy to this day. By the time my

878
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,680
father sold the property I had spent

879
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,668
many hours with friends shooting. I

880
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,680
have lost count of how many people I

881
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,680
talked to shoot and I'm proud to say

882
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,680
one person became a firearms instructor

883
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,680
for the Air Force. This doesn't sound

884
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,680
unusual to you learn the friend was a

885
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,680
five foot five inch 19-year-old female

886
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,868
a rare accomplishment in the mid-80s. I

887
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,680
told you my history because it mirrors

888
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,680
how many Texans for so many years learn

889
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,680
to shoot. Unfortunately, this way is

890
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,680
slowly becoming a thing of the past

891
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,680
because the open land we use to shoot

892
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,268
is now home to the businesses. Our

893
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,680
primary goal of opening the range of

894
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,680
McKinney is to build a place for people

895
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,680
to experience what I and so many others

896
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,680
have loved for so long. Instead of

897
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,680
being out in a field in 101 degree heat

898
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,668
they will be in a modern

899
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,680
air-conditioned facility. The range of

900
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,668
McKinney consists of 18 indoor lanes a

901
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,680
virtual training system two classrooms

902
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,668
retail space a warehouse a catering

903
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,668
kitchen and business offices. Our live

904
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,680
fire range uses equipment designed for

905
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,680
and used by military and law

906
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,680
enforcement agencies around the world.

907
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,680
The environment in the range area will

908
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,680
be clean and comfortable with a system

909
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,680
designed to purify the air of smoke and

910
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,680
lead in seconds not minutes. In

911
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,680
addition to live fire training, the

912
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,268
range of McKinney will be the first

913
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,680
private range in Texas to house the 300

914
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680
virtual immersive training system which

915
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,680
is currently used by handful of

916
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,680
military and law enforcement agencies

917
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,668
around the world. This training system

918
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,680
provides realistic fully immersive

919
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,680
training which allows users to feel as

920
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,680
if they are in the middle of the action.

921
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,680
It prepares them for what may happen

922
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,680
and also teaches how to de-escalate the

923
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,668
situation. The system is like nothing

924
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,668
you have experienced. I have seen

925
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,680
seasoned professionals come out of the

926
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,680
sessions sweating in disbelief of how

927
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,680
realistic the experience was. Demand

928
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,680
for the system will come from law

929
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,680
enforcement agencies businesses school

930
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,680
districts and individuals and bring

931
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,680
people from all over Texas and the

932
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,680
surrounding states to McKinney and

933
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,268
these people will stay in local hotels

934
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,680
are classrooms we use for courses

935
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,680
taught by instructors and they will be

936
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,680
available for private and group

937
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,680
lessons. Since the start of the pandemic

938
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,680
millions of people have taken

939
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680
advantage of their Second Amendment

940
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,680
right to bear arms. The new gun owners

941
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,680
will want to have a nice place to train

942
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,680
and learn and in turn become better

943
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,680
gun owners. Why should the gun owners be

944
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,680
forced to go and spend money at ranges

945
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,680
in other cities when they can stay here

946
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,680
in McKinney. The retail and waiting

947
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,680
areas are designed to be open and

948
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,680
comfortable so clients can shop and

949
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,680
relax. Our retail area will stock new

950
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,680
and used firearms accessories and

951
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,680
ammunition. My mother had a great head

952
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,680
for business and taught me product

953
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,680
selection brings in clients that

954
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,680
customer service keeps them coming back

955
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,868
so we will provide the best in customer

956
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,680
service. [Indiscernible]

957
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,268
>> You may already have what you need

958
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680
to be successful

959
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,680
>> If you are saying asking me to stop,

960
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,680
I'm happy to

961
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,680
>> To be clear, we limit the public

962
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,668
comments however the becomes a time

963
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,680
[Indiscernible] I don't want to be

964
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,680
disrespectful of your presentation

965
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,680
>> I just wanted to make sure and

966
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,680
introduce you to the product so you

967
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,680
understand exactly what we want to do.

968
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,680
What I did not get to and what I would

969
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,680
like to say is the wall configuration

970
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,268
in our building was used in Illinois.

971
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,680
The sound requirements at this facility

972
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,680
in Illinois were that they could not be

973
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,680
heard because this facility is in a

974
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,680
strip center. The adjacent businesses

975
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,868
next to them in the strip center could

976
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,680
not hear the gunfire. You could be

977
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,680
outside the building and the only thing

978
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,680
you hear is noise from the streets

979
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,268
>> I don't know the exact value, the

980
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,680
decibel level is around 68 to 72.

981
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,680
>> Say that again

982
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,680
>> [Indiscernible] is how much sound

983
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,868
volume can be heard on the other side.

984
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,680
>> I am not sure the sound engineers

985
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,668
have not given that me that

986
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,680
information. I know the videos I

987
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,268
provided to staff were taken outside of

988
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,680
the range in Chicago. You could not

989
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,680
hear any gunfire

990
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,668
>> And you have committed to that

991
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,680
>> We are spending in excess of

992
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,268
$500,000 to make sure it does not happen

993
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,680
>> In the future, if I were you and I

994
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,680
was presenting this again, the sound

995
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,680
engineer could identify the STC

996
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,868
assembly and you could say and that we

997
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,680
would clear it up and we would not have

998
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,668
this dialogue. Jennifer, you heard the

999
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,680
video? And you agree you could not hear

1000
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,680
anything?

1001
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,680
>> [Speaker off mic]

1002
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,680
>> Mr. Houser, is there a way possible

1003
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:26,680
since this is an SUP to tie that CO to

1004
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,680
that sound barrier somehow to protect

1005
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:33,680
those residents?

1006
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,680
>> Come out and shoot a gun and stand

1007
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,680
outside to make sure the residents

1008
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,680
>> I think it would be better to tie it

1009
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,680
to the standards so you can technically

1010
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,680
measure it. No noise

1011
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,468
>> [Indiscernible] maybe Mr. Mayor

1012
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,680
could put it in the motion

1013
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,668
>> Are there any other questions for

1014
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,680
the applicant?

1015
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,680
>> This is a public hearing

1016
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,668
>> There are some comments. John Feltus

1017
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,668
>> Good evening. I've lived here almost

1018
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,680
20 years. When I moved here there was a

1019
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
gun range on 380. I'm a lifetime

1020
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,680
shooter but more than that I spent a

1021
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,680
year in Academy selling firearms

1022
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,680
full-time. I sold a lot of guns and one

1023
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,680
of the things I saw commonly is people

1024
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,680
that bought them did not know how to

1025
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,680
use them. They had nowhere to go. They

1026
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,668
were reluctant to step outside their

1027
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,680
comfort zone so they take them home and

1028
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,680
put them in the night stand and feel

1029
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,680
safe and don't have a clue what they

1030
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,680
are doing. They need a place here where

1031
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,680
they can learn these things, where they

1032
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,868
can do it properly and safely and not

1033
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,680
shoot your kids because they are

1034
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,680
playing in the street because they are

1035
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,868
scared. I would ask you to please and

1036
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,680
I'm not trying to overrule Jennifer by

1037
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,680
any means she's done her job well but

1038
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,868
we need a place here. Allen has one,

1039
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,680
Plano has several. We are the only town

1040
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,680
around that does not and you are losing

1041
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,680
money and revenue off of it and we are

1042
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,680
losing a good opportunity. Please vote

1043
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,680
in favor

1044
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,268
>> I'm not showing any other cards. Is

1045
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,268
there anybody here that would like to

1046
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,680
speak?

1047
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,680
>> I gave you a card but I'm not sure

1048
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,680
what happened

1049
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,668
>> My name is [Indiscernible]. I live

1050
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,268
at 3300 Brentwood. I am a lifelong gun

1051
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,680
enthusiast. I highly recommend

1052
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,680
everybody support their Second

1053
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Amendment right to carry but more

1054
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,268
importantly if you are going to carry

1055
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,680
you need to practice. You need to take

1056
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:28,680
courses and learn what you are doing

1057
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,868
because the firearm is not a toy. We

1058
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,868
need places to go out and practice that

1059
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,680
skill because that's what it is a skill

1060
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,680
and you need to practice. If you don't

1061
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,680
practice you have no reason carrying a

1062
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,680
firearm. I say that as somebody who

1063
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,680
thinks everybody should. I have trained

1064
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,680
a number of my friends to use firearms.

1065
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,680
One of the biggest things I get to when

1066
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,680
I talk to people about how often do you

1067
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,680
go out and practice or hit the range. I

1068
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:06,680
don't because there's not one anywhere

1069
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,680
around I have to go too far. There is

1070
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,680
always excuses but number one is the

1071
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,680
proximity.. The closer you have a place

1072
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,468
the more likely you are going to be to

1073
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,680
go. If it's going to offer the training

1074
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,680
they claim they are going to offer, I

1075
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,668
would highly recommend you approve this

1076
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,680
because that is something I am myself

1077
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,868
as a McKinney resident will use. I will

1078
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,680
take my friends there. I will get other

1079
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,680
people to go there because that's what

1080
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,680
I do. Right now I get them to go to

1081
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,268
other places. Let's keep that here in

1082
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,680
McKinney. If we are going to have

1083
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,680
people here in McKinney carrying

1084
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,680
firearms we need to have places in

1085
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,680
McKinney for them to practice that

1086
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,680
skill. I respect the staff has done

1087
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,868
their work and decided against it but I

1088
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,680
believe it's incorrect and I believe we

1089
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,680
should have a place to hone our skills.

1090
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,680
>> Is there anybody else to speak to

1091
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,680
the item? I will entertain a motion to

1092
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,468
close the public hearing

1093
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,680
>> So moved, second

1094
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:24,680
>> Cast your votes

1095
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,680
>> Motion passes

1096
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,680
>> Discussion

1097
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,668
>> I think staff recommended denial for

1098
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,680
the right reason. They are concerned

1099
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,680
about the residential so they wanted to

1100
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,680
make sure that's what they were looking

1101
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,680
out for as this will be an SUP

1102
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,468
requirement that would potentially

1103
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,268
disrupt. I think we can require that

1104
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,680
they produce on the front side a

1105
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,680
construction the ratings of the walls

1106
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,680
they will build. That can easily be

1107
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,668
contrasted with the noise generated on

1108
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:18,680
the inside and it sounds like you are

1109
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,868
willing to do that already. So I know

1110
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,680
for me the only thing you did not say

1111
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,680
you said being outside of 101 degree

1112
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,680
whether it's also legal so I prefer a

1113
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,668
legal and safe place for anyone

1114
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,680
carrying a gun being able to practice

1115
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,680
here as long as we mitigate that

1116
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,680
concern staff has very rightfully

1117
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,668
expressed. Does anyone else have a

1118
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:55,680
comment?

1119
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,680
>> I'd like to say thank you for doing

1120
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,668
business in McKinney. We've needed this

1121
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,680
for a very long time and I appreciate

1122
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,680
you investing your time and money in

1123
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,680
McKinney and I hope you are very

1124
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:08,680
successful. I saw you present at

1125
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,680
Planning and Zoning and I'm pleased to

1126
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,680
see you here and I know you care about

1127
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:15,680
what you are doing and you are bringing

1128
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,680
a good quality product so thank you

1129
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,680
very much

1130
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:22,680
>> I look forward as long as it is tied

1131
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,680
to making sure those residents are

1132
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,680
represented aren't interrupted by the

1133
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,668
noise and making sure it's maintained

1134
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,268
throughout. I know we have good legal

1135
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:42,468
team that can tie that to the SUP. It

1136
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,680
has to be maintained so how those walls

1137
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,680
deteriorate with the sound somehow gets

1138
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,680
too loud, the SUP will be revoked.

1139
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,680
Maintain that sound quality

1140
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,680
>> I'm in favor

1141
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,868
>> I'd like to know when you will open

1142
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,468
>> I will be one of the first ones there

1143
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,680
>> [Indiscernible]

1144
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,868
>> I will ask for a motion. And to

1145
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,680
contain the language

1146
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,680
>> Move to approve with the stipulation

1147
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,680
on the sound

1148
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,680
>> Second

1149
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,680
>> Mark, you have enough to go on what

1150
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:35,680
we are looking for.

1151
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,680
>> Please vote

1152
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:41,680
>> Motion passes

1153
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,680
>> Congratulations

1154
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,680
>> 200006z2 rezone property from Local

1155
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:01,680
Commercial District to Planned

1156
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,680
Development District to modify the

1157
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,680
development standards to allow for

1158
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,680
multifamily uses

1159
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,268
>> Just here to introduce the item, the

1160
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:11,680
applicant requests the public hearing

1161
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,680
be continued until August 18

1162
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,268
>> I believe the purpose was for them

1163
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,680
to co-back to the residence and see if

1164
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,668
they can't get agreement from the

1165
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,680
residence to be in support

1166
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,680
>> That is correct

1167
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,468
>> That's their best chance

1168
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,668
>> I'm okay with it being tabled.

1169
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,680
Everybody else?

1170
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,680
>> Move to table the item

1171
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,680
>> We need a public hearing

1172
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:49,680
>> And continue the public hearing

1173
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,680
>> Second

1174
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,680
>> Motion passes

1175
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,680
>> 200626, act on a resolution

1176
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,680
authorizing the creation of an ad hoc

1177
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,680
Throckmorton statue advisory board to

1178
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,680
oversee staff and expert research

1179
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,680
related to the Throckmorton statue

1180
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,680
located on city-owned property

1181
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,680
>> Thank you, Assistant City Manager.

1182
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,680
This resolution formalizes the

1183
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,680
Throckmorton advisory board as

1184
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,268
presented at the Work Session. Happy to

1185
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,680
stand for any questions. And Mark Doty

1186
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,680
is available

1187
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,680
>> Are there questions for Kim?

1188
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,468
>> Is there a motion

1189
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,680
>> Some discussion

1190
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,680
>> We had discussion in Work Session.

1191
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,468
It's highly disappointing and

1192
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,668
discouraging to look at my Council

1193
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,868
peers who dismissed and as you can see,

1194
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:16,680
there's a better part of your community

1195
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,680
out here that feels dismissed

1196
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,680
disappointed and discouraged. We are

1197
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,680
asking you to not sit on your hands and

1198
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,680
not have an ad hoc committee, we are

1199
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,868
not going to sit by and be dismissed.

1200
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,680
You might look at me and see one person

1201
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,680
on the Council you don't agree with and

1202
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,680
you don't like and you could care less

1203
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,680
to have the conversation but you need

1204
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,868
to look out the window. Looked past me

1205
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,268
because I'm not me I'm representing the

1206
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,680
constituents in your community. I'm not

1207
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,680
talking about you I'm talking about me

1208
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,668
right now and those constituents out

1209
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,680
there. As quickly as you dismissed me

1210
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,680
earlier at Work Session, we are not

1211
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,668
going to be dismissed and be

1212
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,680
disrespected. So again, you can hear

1213
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,868
us, you can see as and these numbers

1214
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,268
will grow. The division is not being

1215
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,680
caused by the person calling out the

1216
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,680
problem. Bringing awareness to the

1217
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,680
problem.

1218
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,680
>> This is inappropriate and I need to

1219
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,868
ask you to step away from the dais

1220
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,268
>> The comments that were made that the

1221
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,680
group your constituents which are my

1222
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,680
constituents and everyone's

1223
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,680
constituents here, I don't subscribe to

1224
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,668
the thought that engaging the whole

1225
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,468
community is disrespecting anybody.

1226
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,680
Ignoring anybody. It's what we are

1227
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,680
required to do

1228
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,468
>>[ I'm speaking right now

1229
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,680
>> Multiple speakers]

1230
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,680
>> I was not done and speaking

1231
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,680
>> La'shadion

1232
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,680
>> No No No you don't get to cut me off

1233
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,668
in the middle of my comments

1234
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,680
>> Council member Shemwell

1235
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:37,680
>> You do not get to cut me off

1236
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,268
>> We will be back in five minutes

1237
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,680
>> Call a recess all you want but we

1238
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,468
will not be dismissed

1239
01:13:55,670 --> 01:13:59,867
>>We are back and we will have this

1240
01:14:02,670 --> 01:14:03,680
discussion respectfully and with that I

1241
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,680
make a motion to adjourn

1242
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,680
>> So moved, we are adjourned

1243
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,468
>> [The meeting has ended]