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Good evening. It is 6:30 and we are going to uh call this city council
meeting to order. Tuesday, September 23rd, 2025.
And with that, we will go into our invocation. And uh I'm actually going to
do the invocation tonight. So, if you'll please stand.
Lord, we come to you for guidance, wisdom, and grace in the oath we take to
serve the citizens of this city. We ask that you give us that understanding to
listen better and speak with our hearts that look to serve.
We come wanting understanding, Lord, as we have all seen the tragedy that took
place and touched our nation. The loss of Charlie Kirk should be the reminder
that we should live Christlike. While the battle cry may say live like Charlie
or I am Charlie, it is simply a way of the reminder that we can all love like
Jesus. We can find forgiveness in those that
trespass against us because that is what our savior did for us when he laid down
his life. So if you will all join me. Our father who art in heaven, hallowed
be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive
those who trespass against us. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us
from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever and
ever. Amen. >> Mr. Good, will you lead us in our
pledges?
To the flag of the United States of America and to the
stands nationy
and justice for all.
flag.
One state under God, one and indivisible. God bless Texas.
» Pretty sure I threw everybody because I don't normally do the prayer.
Um, so our rules of decorum, I always uh just pull a name from this jar up here
and we honor somebody uh whether they were law enforcement or military and we
dedicate the meetings to them. And this one is John McDonald. And so we will
honor him tonight in our meeting. And with that, we will uh treat each other
with kindness. So that's going to bring us up to our
proclamation. Yay.
» So, I'm gonna start this off real quick. What does one say about a person who has
shown courage to stand up and serve? Who has shown compassion when working with
people? Who has shown understanding when listening to the people whom she comes
into contact with? How do you say thank you, honor, and make sure they know they
are valued and appreciated for all they do and have done? And I have no doubt
will continue to do even after she steps away from this seat. Maybe the best way
to do it is serve as Bev has, but just make sure to hold a better poker face
when the topics are not so fun. Here's the thing. I firmly feel and
believe that this city is better because of Bev. It is said, it was said by Teddy
Roosevelt, "Walk softly and carry a big stick." And honestly, if you go with the
meaning behind it, it means to approach situations with a gentle demeanor and be
prepared to use strong measures when necessary. A lesson we should all
remember not only in saying but doing. Bev has taught me a lot and in many
cases how to have a better tamed tongue and sit back and take deep breaths and
focus on moving forward and doing good things. It isn't about getting in the
mud and rolling around and getting dirty. It's about the windshield. It is
much larger than the rearview mirror. Unfortunately, it took me a bit of time
to concede this as I am a stubborn Taurus and I do not
like to sit quiet sometimes. Bev will be missed and I will continue to lean on
her for her mentorship even though she will be absent from the office of city
manager going forward. Bev, you are truly a good person. You
took things on the chin even in our disagreements on many matters. You
always remain professional, kind, and more so my friend. I love you. You are a
rock and you will always be the first city manager of Mlennon Chisum and we
thank you for your service. [Applause]
sit downclamation. If I could sit down, I would. But then
got to do this proclamation cuz she loves all this kind of stuff.
It's >> the third time today we've won this.
» It is the third time today we've done this. Uh Be was recognized this morning
at the county commissioners uh court um where they relished in embarrassing her.
Uh today at lunch we uh were able to do that again with the state rep uh state
rep's office, state senator's office, and uh Congressman Found's office as
well. And uh we get to be the ones to do this. So I apologize if y'all notice
this proclamation and then staff will present her her road sign and a couple
other little things and then we'll get into business. I apologize. So
proclamation whereas Bev Stevens a 1973 graduate of Pana noise married her
husband Neil who she met on a blind date in 1976
and married in 1977 and moved with him to Mlendon Chisum in 1980.
Whereas before acting as our intern city administrator, Bev has been part of our
part of several nonprofit organizations such as American Heart Association,
Dallas Area Habitat for Humanity, and Volunteer Center of North America.
Whereas Bev has many talents, including being a trained florist with a true
green thumb, she also enjoys travel, traveling with the world with her
husband and loves cruising. Whereas between cruises, Bev has had a
firm belief in serving and being a part of her community. Over the years, she is
involved in all parts of her community, including helping hands, Rockwell open
space alliance, women in need, and the chocolate indulgence committee.
Whereas in 2003, she was citizen of the year of Mlennon Chisum and Rockwell I
will mess this word up. >> Seropimist.
» Sopimist nominee for woman of distinction.
Whereas
recent being that of the first to hold the title of city manager under our new
home charter, whereas Bev has served countless years in service of the city
and county, being on the city council for 22 years, a mayor prom for eight
years, chairwoman of the budget committee for nine years, commissioner
of planning and zoning, member of the concept committee, and commissioner of
the city charter 2024. war. Therefore, as Bev Stevens is the definition of a
servant leader, and it is with great pleasure and a humbled honor to be able
to recognize her for her outstanding service to the city of Mlennon, Chisum,
Rockwalk County, and the impact she has made. Signed, Ryan McNil, Mayor
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Yeah, >> because I made a huge mistake at lunch
for there. I left one very important person out and that is our city
attorney. He has stood by me through a lot of
different roles here and tried to keep me legal. I won't always
say he did, but a huge thank you to him. A huge thank you to this council, the
past council, the staff. You guys are great. Citizens couldn't
have better neighbors. So, Fabric, I wish you well.
You got a big problem on your hands.
Okay.
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That's perfect.
Thank y'all for uh allowing us that time to honor Bev. So, I appreciate that.
I'd hope to embarrass her city business to do. So, let's get to it.
This will bring up citizens comments. Do we have any citizens comments turned in?
Does anyone want to speak before I close citizens comments?
Okay, we will close citizens comments. And that's going to bring us to consent
agenda. I will entertain a motion to accept a consent agenda unless anyone
sees something they would like to pull. >> I'd like to discuss 6.2.
» Okay. Is there any other items that need to be pulled? If not, I'll entertain a
motion to um approve the rest through consent.
» So moved. >> Is there a second?
» Second. >> All in favor say I. Please.
» I >> I
» I >> I.
» Okay. So we will pull 6.2. Um, discuss and consider approval of a
final plat that provides for the development of 406 residential lots and
seven open space lots on 105.099 acres of land located generally at the
intersection of FM 548 Nan Road. The Rockwell CAD property identification
number is 10985.
And I'll entertain a motion on this one to discuss and approve.
» So move. >> Is there a second? Second. Okay, it's
open for discussion. I'm going to turn this over to uh city manager,
city planner. >> Good evening, council. Um the applicant
is requesting approval of a final plat that provides for 406 residential lots
and seven open space lots. Um, in summary, uh, this project is tied with
several previous preliminary plat approvals and, uh, as a city in the ETJ,
we only have platting authority, um, for this case. So, the that being said, the
applicant is here if you do have development questions, um, questions
about his development as a whole, but as far as the city is concerned, I only
have, um, subdivision ordinance authority, platting authority.
» Mr. Paula, um, can you clarify something with me on the final plat? And the
reason it's on consent agenda is because when it's a final plat,
unless there is some crazy legal reason, if the eyes are dotted, te's across,
stables are in the right place, we've got to approve this or the shot clock
approves it anyway. Is that correct? >> You would be correct, Mayor. Under
212009 of the LGC. If it's uh administratively
complete, which literally means is it stapled in the right spot? Is the fee
paid? all that kind of thing, right? Copies and is it in technical compliance
with our subdivision ordinance? If both of those answers are yes to each of
those questions, the council doesn't have a choice and we have to approve uh
the plats. They're they're the most unique land used animal that we have.
» Which is why if we do know that it's already in compliance and it's complete
and everything's good to go, putting it on consent just allows us to move things
through a little bit faster. >> Absolutely. I I appreciate council
member Goodman pulling this because many people don't understand u on the citizen
side. They just see something that we're just trying to slide through and that's
not the case. If there was something that needed to be discussed, it wouldn't
be on their consent. It would have been in the regular agenda. That's the city
manager's place to put that there for us. So, uh
» no, that's correct. As per usual, when cities have difficulty with land use,
it's the state legislator's fault and that's the case here. So,
» okay. So, does that reach you what you needed or do you need you have anything?
» No, I got a few things I want to clarify.
» No doubt. >> Just just so kind of the public is
aware. We didn't This is so far outside of what our community wants here in
Mlennon Chisum. This is an ETJ. It's on the border. It actually is half Kaufman,
half Rockall County. Correct. Or >> no, I believe it's almost entirely
Kaufman County. >> Okay.
Um this was no plan development or anything that we did here. This was
» there is no executed development agreement or plan development district
agreement. >> Okay.
Chief Stow. >> Yes. Does this affect fire district 22
at all? >> No sir. This is uh part of the MAM
project and they have a emergency services contract with uh ESD in coffin
county. >> Okay. So no impact to the fire district.
There's really not much we can do but approve.
» As far as the plat is concerned, that is correct.
» Thank you. Does anyone have any further questions
on this one? Okay. So all those in favor say I. I. I.
I. I. I. All right. I I >> believe that's unanimous.
Okay. So, this brings us up to uh item 8.1.
Discuss and consider approval for the donation of a 1995 Pierce Fire Engine to
the North Texas Fire Academy for training. I'll entertain a motion.
» So moved. >> Second.
» Second. >> Open for discussion. Um, city manager.
Good evening, mayor, council members. Uh this item before you this evening is
regarding uh donating a 1995 Pierce Fire Engine to the North Texas Fire Academy
for uh purposes of training in exchange for $10,000 equivalent in uh training uh
credit. And as I understand it, that would be in addition to the already
granted uh $10,000 worth of training credits. Yes. Uh, with that said, staff
does recommend approval of this item. We have in the audience with us, Mr.
Michael Simmons that is here available for any questions if you should you have
it at this time.
» Yeah, I got you. >> Mr. London, do you have any questions on
this? >> No questions.
» Mr. Towry, >> Mr. Brew,
» if I understand this right, this truck has been there for quite some time.
» Yes, sir. >> And the only thing that actually
operates on it is the pump part. Everything else is pretty shot.
» So, you're correct. So, in 2018, it had been stored there for storage offsite.
The department still had used it on and off for different types of training and
all that. It was no longer a primary apparatus. One of the main reasons it
was stored is because it failed a pump test. So in order to get the pump back
to original working condition, we would have to invest a little bit. But for
what we do and function properly, putting it back on the street and using
as a first out or second out or third out.
» No sir, you are correct. >> Mr. Dean,
» I'm good. Thank you. >> Mr. Goodwin,
» I'm good. >> Mr. Powers, good. And I have no
questions. So, uh, >> and excuse me, just to make notes, we
are getting the C logo removed from the truck, correct?
» Absolutely.
» Anything else from staff, chief? All right. I'll since we've had the
motion in a second, all those approved say I.
» I. >> I. I.
I. >> I believe that's unanimous as well.
» Mr. Simmons, our finance director, has the title. He is signing it over to you
right now. >> He's got the title. Sign it over to you
right now. >> Oh, good deal. Thank you, mayor, council
members. Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
» Thank you, Chief. >> That brings up item 8.2,
discuss and determine whether the proposed site plan conforms to the
Crossroad Plan Development District.
Before I call Mr. very up on this. Let me ask you a question. Being that this
is where this debate, does that mean we can take action? I
mean, I don't So, discuss and determine whether the proposed site plan, it
doesn't say discuss and approve.
» So, are we good? >> I mean, I'm still going to have him come
up and speak. I just >> So, so I can take Do I need But I guess
what I should ask it this way. I need to still take a motion in a second, right?
» I don't think so because the way that this the way it looked like it was taken
from is from 5-1, I think it's D of our uh zoning ordinance, the plan
development district, what that talks about when they talk about uh
conformance to the plan development and all that other information. That's when
when establishing a plan development district. this was established.
» Well, I'm talking about on this the way it's worded. It's so discuss and
determine whether the proposed site plan conforms to the crossroads. It should I
mean >> I don't think so because I don't think
there's a motion that the council can take.
» So then I can let him still speak. Correct. Say yes. Okay.
» Mr. Barry.
Good evening, mayor, uh, council, members of the staff.
U, I think you may go into executive
session. I'm not sure it's shows to be here. I'm sorry that um, we're kind of
going out of order here. I'm not 100% sure why uh we are having to come here
with the exception of the fact that we have a site plan um that was submitted
for approval on uh a 7 acre track that we have on the east side of uh State
Highway 205 at the intersection of 205 and 550.
Um there's a couple of things that I think point out um that kind of tie and
coincide together here tonight that I think that um ultimately we need to look
at ultimately in your packet what you have in front of you and the request of
sames suggests that the council is to interpret whether or not our plan
development is in conformance. Um there's certainly developers that
have done this a lot longer than I have, but this is a first for me. And so, um,
it seems as though we're going a little bit out of order, but, um, your city
planner has suggested that the site plan application that we had by 7-Eleven, um,
as the enduser through a developer by the name of Verd,
um, who is a buyer from one of our holdings, uh, submitted a site plan
approval that was ultimately rejected by the city planner. Uh, when
here tonight. Uh, and I do apologize that you have 80 plus pages in your
packet tonight. There's two things if you were to go break out and I'm happy
to talk at length in whatever capacity you'd like to. There's two things that I
think that we need to look at tonight. One is ultimately the rejection which
suggests that we are not in conformance. And I trust that you uh received in your
packet and saw in exhibit I on page 209 and 210 a two-page letter that I
concluded by providing five or six reasons very specifically stating as to
why I believe this is more in conformance than than not.
And the second thing that we have to talk about tonight is an already
approved plat that uh took place at the December 10th
uh conclude who our ultimate enduser was going to be and that the mayor and the
city manager had the authority to make interior lot line changes.
And so as part of our site plan approval, we sent the uh plat reflecting
a uh 2025 date in the signature blocks in
lie of the 2024. and we adjusted the interior lot lines
in two different places and uh would just point out for the record that none
of the exterior perimeters have changed. So, um you received in your packet um
80 plus pages and um beginning on page 132
through 134 in your packet, there was ultimately five different sections of
reasoning as to why that this was rejected
uh by nonconformance. And so if now is the time, I would be
happy to go through those, but I want to respect the process and um go through
that. I would ask when it comes to the plat that you get the official word from
your city attorney from a vested rights perspective. It's my firm belief that we
established that back on December 10th of 2024
and uh feel with certainty that he will agree with the same. But I would ask
that you not ask me my opinion because I'm clearly trying to move forward with
a development and a disposition of an asset and would like for you to get that
blessing from him. But I can't move forward with the development of 711
without going through a site plan approval of which I feel that we're in
full conformance with from what I now understand that we have to add a layer
of government to the process by getting your blessing of conformity. So, I guess
my first question, Mr. Mayor, is is do we want to go through this in in
great detail now? Would you like an opportunity to meet with the council?
How would you like for me to proceed with my my questions? I would actually
be okay with hearing your input. Um, and I and I would think the council would
agree to hear it all now, if you're okay with it. And and
time. I'm okay with the time because one thing that I want to make very clear is
as a city, whether it's an elected or a staff, we have to be better and we have
to make sure that we're here to serve you. Whether you're a developer or a
citizen, you're coming to our city and that's that's our role is to serve. So,
I respect your time. If you're willing to share your input, I'm taking notes
because I think it's prudent to do so if everyone's in agreement.
Okay, fair enough. And I appreciate that. Um, unfortunately
um I'm dealing with a city planner that's stated no less than four times
that they don't support our use nor our user. And um
he's told me that uh he's told that to my partners. He's told that to myself.
And I would respectfully tell you that you're out of bounds and you don't have
that authority. We're inside a plan development district and we're in
conformance. And with that, I would proceed forward. The first thing that we
want to talk about is uh conformity. If I could get you to direct your
attention to page 185 inside your packet, um you will find my letter and
on the I apologize. Uh, page 132 of your packet.
» I'm going to interrupt real quick. So, the way that
» the information that we have is not structured the same way. So, whenever he
calls out a page number like that, >> okay,
» it's it's broken up differently for us. >> Fair enough. Thank you, Chief. Um,
inside your packet, it I believe it's listed as exhibit I and I I can't
confirm what page number it is. Um, in my packet it's I'll get a couple
of different versions. This one is 209. Let's see if that works.
» Is it the supporting documentation letter?
» Is it your letter? >> 209 and 210. And you see a letter that
was presented. Okay, great. If I could direct your attention to page 210 of
that in the last paragraph, I stated that we are grateful for the opportunity
to be heard by the city council where I look forward to further discussing this
matter. Please note the following in advance. One, the concept plan shows two
ingress and egress entrances on State Highway 205. So does our site plan. The
concept plan shows one ingress and egress entrance on FM 550. and so does
our site plan. The concept plan shows a fire lane generally from each of the
respective entrances. So does our site plan. Generally, the
concept plan shows two buildings north of the proposed entrance on state
highway 205. So does our site plan.
Ordinance number 2022-11 PD permitted uses states, and I quote,
"The uses allowed or prohibited in this plan development district are as
follows. Those uses allowed in the city of Mlin and Chisum GB general business
district namely convenience store with or without fuel sales is a permitted use
that does not require an SUP. We have a plan development district that
was approved back in 2022
and we are not asking for any variances and our initial site plan approval
request is for a use that's permitted by right that doesn't even require an SUP.
Second thing that I want to point out tonight that I would respectfully ask
that you consult with your city attorney on is an already approved
final plaque that was blessed by unanimously by the council on at the
December 10th, 2024 meeting. And I would ask that you ask your city
attorney about our vested rights. And specifically, I would ask that you ask
for clarity in the direction that I was given by your city staff at that time to
hold off on your signature, Mr. Mayor, as well as the city manager or the city
administrator, I believe, at that time because we were working with two
different applicants at the time as who was going to be purchasing purchasing
the hard corner. and we were told that it was proper
for us to wait until that was identified, which is what we've done.
And so alongside our site plan application here, we submitted
the revised and current site plan that showed those modifications and addressed
the respective comments with Mr. Sherman in person to where
at the time we had a full understanding and what I understood to be complete
support same. Those are the two matters um on pages um
132 through 135 in your 134 in your packet. You have five items noted by
staff, namely Mr. Sherman. One being the comprehensive plan.
And I would respectfully tell you that this is not about a comprehensive plan.
This is an already approved plan development district. I have utmost
respect for your comprehensive plan, but it's not applicable to this application.
Two, A through F. I can go through each of these if you
would like. 2 A, we have that included. 2B, we have a detention pond and a
letter from an engineer stating same that it's been removed and relocated.
2C, if you would see page 212 of your packet, you'll see that that is actually
included. 2D is an absolutely ridiculous statement
that suggests that we're talking about limiting the amount of headlight
intrusion where I would remind you that it wasn't two city council meetings ago
where you had unanimous support of a plan development district by that was
approved unanimously by a good partner of mine and a good friend at the Chisum
Square that had 68 parking spaces alongside State Highway 205, 34 of which
are facing direct directly onto state 205. We have zero.
That wasn't even mentioned through any of that report.
2E, we will meet the general business requirements for landscaping.
2F is not true. See page 140 of your packet. There's another lot behind
7-Eleven, not just the one shown in the site plan
where it suggests that we only have an entrance off of 550 going into the
northeastern corner of our project. Section three suggest proposed site
plan. 3A, not true. See page 140. 3B, we will adhere to the landscape
requirements in general business. 3 C we've provided an engineering letter to
address same 3D not true see page 212 3E we've already addressed 3F we've
already addressed we will meet the general business requirements for
landscaping 3G it's not true but respectfully that's not of city
authority it's a text dot requirement we will work directly with text dot as we
have Section 4 4A
respectfully you're not an engineer but we have provided a letter addressing
same and it will be further addressed whenever we're putting our civil package
together for approval. 4B we've already addressed. 4 C is a text issue. 4 D
we've already addressed. 4 E is absolutely not true. We have a fire lane
going through the middle of our property as indicated in the plans. 4F.
Not true. It's not in a fire lane. Five. I would ask that you just talk
with Mr. Hollow. council,
we have not been treated the way your precedents been set on recently
previously submitted and approved development packages. I don't want to go
there. We're simply trying to stay in the confines of what we bought. It was
an already approved, already
um entitled piece of property. We are strictly in the confines of conformity.
I've identified no less than a half a dozen examples for same and certainly
welcome further discussion. I would note for the record that no less than four
requests were made by my applicant to this gentleman right here to get
specific confirmations of what needed to be addressed andor to confirm that
everything was addressed inclusive of two additional requests made by me. to
receive zero remarks outside of a rejection stating nonconformity after I
commanded a reason for why. That's not the way we do business here. And I don't
think that you would agree with me. It's the way y'all want to do business. I'm
not trying to raise havoc. I'm strictly trying to do what we committed to you
back on December 10th when we brought in front of you
the final plat that we did where alongside same I provided for you an
amended a draft rather concept plan that showed almost to the tea of exactly what
we're doing. I'm here for any questions. I will happily see and I'll happily come
up and entertain anymore. I don't have anything else to address at this time.
One one second. So, Mr. Hollage, help me clear something up
here. Uh, Mr. Barry brought up the fact that it was not signed in December, that
would not have any weight whether it was signed or not signed since it was a
legislative action by the council. Correct.
» Correct. Once that uh uh once that ordinance was passed, the PL or the plat
was approved by the council, then it's approved as of that date. It's a
ministerial duty um by the mayor at the time to sign ordinances or plats or
whatever it is that the council has passed um unless there's a reason under
like for example resolution ordinances under 5203b the mayor's got it a he can
reconsider ask council to reconsider that but that doesn't change the fact
that once legislative body has made a decision boom that decision is made and
not signing it is not going to stop that >> so not an expiration date of
» whether it took 90 days or 365 days that legislative action was passed. It is
approved and it is done. >> Correct.
» Uh my other concern back to you, Mr. just so I can make sure I understand uh
cuz we will go into executive session because we have some other legal
questions to ask on this. But I want to be clear, you submitted six times asking
for to be told explicitly for what was
» I would not want to misrepresent on the record anything different than what I
stated in my letter. Um what I'm attempting to state for you is is after
we made uh the application I personally sat down with Mr. Sherman we sat down
and went through a number of pages of checklist provided receipts uh of
payment for same asked if we were good. Um I I certainly didn't ask him if it
was uh uh approved at that time and and never would have. Um um and following
that meeting um the applicant who is here um on the behalf of Verdad uh sent
four different messages to not receive any responses to of which I added two
additionals with a request confirming that we would be on the next PNZ meeting
which I believe at the time was the September 9th meeting
um and received no correspondence outside of a rejection stating that we
were not in conformance. Sir, >> gentlemen, before we go back into
executive session, Mr. Lone, do you have anything you want to get cleared before
we go back there that you're confused on?
» Just making sure there's no variances being requested. You're just going off
of what's already been submitted. >> To the very best of my knowledge, I'm
not requesting any variance, Mr. London. >> Thank you, sir.
» Mr. Towry, Mr. Brewer,
» Mr. Dean, Mr. Goodwin, Mr. Okay. So, with that being said, kind of
flip back
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City council for the city of Mlennon, Chisum, Texas, reserves the right to
convene into executive session at any time during the course of this meeting
to discuss any of the matters listed as authorized by Texas Government Code
Real Property 551073. It is 7:08 and we will be in executive
session.
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speech.
Okay, it is 7:45 and we are back for executive session.
Um, no action was taken in executive session. Um, however, we did have a few
questions that we were able to get answers to from our legal counsel. Um,
and with that, I'm going to turn it over to the city attorney because of the
concerns that are out there on the legalities and allow him to explain uh
the process and moving forward.
So, let me start off by saying the council is really excited
about the particular uh developer and what they brought to the city. Um, they
actually wanted to do a lot of things tonight. So, it is my fault that they
are hopefully not going to do anything uh tonight. And and I'll explain the
reason why about that. Uh because like I said, council is they want to make sure
that they're treating everybody fairly, that everybody gets what the due process
allows them to get under the ordinances uh under a code of ordinances. They're
very adamant about that. They're very appreciative of you actually
specifically uh Mr. Barry. The mayor didn't want me to say that, but I
thought I would, you know, let you know they specifically appreciate it. um the
where it looks like there was maybe a mislication of our ordinances because if
you look at five this language is taken almost directly from 5-1 I think it's
subsection uh D of our code of ordinances zoning ordinance and in
five-1 it starts off with in the establishment of a plan development
district and then it's got ABC and D well that is that whole procedure is
when you're actually in the process of establish establishing a plan
development. That's not what's going on out here. One of the council members you
So, you're basically saying that the horse is out of the barn, it's gone,
it's had ponies, and now it's in the glue factory. I said, exactly. This was
done. I thought it was pretty clever myself. That was three years ago. It's
over. It's done. So, there there there is no authority for the council to take
action at this point. So um what now different things can happen at at this
point you know where we are we can you can leave it where it is um you know you
can you can continue to try to work with staff see what we can work out there's
also an option if you want to amend uh see to amend the PD to conform with
whatever the the consent plan you had and I understand there may be some
disagreement between staff and developer but here's the thing if the developer
says look I'm willing to do I don't know say A B and
But the staff wants me to also do deenf. I don't think I need to or I don't want
to or both. That doesn't mean council's going to make the the or even P&Z is
going to recommend that the developer do def. That is totally within the purview
of the council. So it can go through P&Z and they can come to council and council
can say hey you know what uh developer I agree with you. I think only AB and C
are necessary. So we're going to approve the amendment to the PD with just ABC
and not DEF. So council that is perfectly within their perview,
perfectly within their authority to do that. So those are just a couple of
options. Uh you know that they are. But as far as tonight, as much as council
would gen genuinely like to do something because what I've appreciated about this
council is they're willing to not not concede to developers, but they
understand that that the best option is to work with developers because that's
going to benefit the community and everybody as a whole. at this point, the
way the ordinance is and and we kind of apologize and and maybe I should have
caught it too that the way it's worded and taking from the section of our
ordinance that it was in, it should have really been on the agenda even for
tonight. So, and I don't want them to to ask questions. So, please blame me. It
is not their fault. They are genuinely excited about y'all, but I have asked
them not to have their questions answered because in the future, for an
example, if there is an attempted minute in the PD, I don't want them to have all
their questions answered and they made a decision tonight when it's not even in
front of them. So, that's kind of just generally where they are.
» Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Holla. Um, and thank you, council. Um just as it
relates to next steps. Um next steps is is um we were shut down on the process
of what I would call the traditional
process the the the the city of Mlennon Chisum's process of submitting a site
plan application on an already approved plan development district. We all know
that this is not a zoning case. uh we were here or required to be here
tonight at the request of myself to get here tonight to determine your
conformity so that we can move forward with the site plan approval process. And
so the only action that I would interpret, as much as I would love to
ask for you to uh to to take this under advisement for a site plan approval, I
I'm not asking that. It's not on the agenda tonight and I acknowledge that.
Um what is on the agenda tonight is the clarification that's being required or
requested for the city administrator or for the city planner to hear your
direction to allow us to determine that this is in fact in conformance so that
we can move to the site plan approval process.
» That and that's what I was obviously didn't do a good enough job conveying.
They can't do that tonight. >> Okay. What this comes from, that's what
I was trying to explain. What this comes from is section 5-1 of our ordinance.
The asking for council to determine conformance that can only happen during
the establishment of a plan development district. That is not what we have here.
This plan development district has already been established. So the section
that would normally allow this is not applicable. So at this point, we've
already got an established plan development district and so we have to
go from there. That's what I was trying to convey.
» Fair enough. And I respect that. You also appreciate the fact that my site
plan submitt was rejected due to nonconformity and it was stated here and
we've missed another 30 or 45 days in the process because I had to go receive
council's direction to agree that we're in conformity so that he will then take
it through the next process. So, I respect the fact that they don't have
the authority to do something that's already been done,
» right? >> But but understanding that I can't do
that process according to the city planner because his interpretation
as written is that we're not in conformance and without the council
stating that we are in fact in conformance, he's not going to take it
to the next steps. And there creates a pretty significant problem that I'm
trying to avoid here for all parties involved. So, what what am I supposed to
do if if in writing all 81 pages tells me that the reason why we weren't
successful getting on the planning and zoning commission docket was because his
interpretation was is that our site plan uh suggested a use and or what have you
that's not in conformance with my plan development district. And you're telling
me in section 5-1D to the best of your memory, we're not writing that down. uh
to the best of your knowledge that 51D states that that's only applicable at
the time we're establishing a plan development district that's already been
created and established, >> right?
» What is my next steps? Because right now I'm being told that we're in a we're
we're in we're stuck and that's not acceptable obviously.
» Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm not trying to say that you're stuck. What I'm gonna say is
uh first off um it actually is absolutely is 5-1. I do know the number.
So first off we got that um I got a reputation uphold. Second um I only know
a little bit about what's going on. I don't know all the details. Sure. So
maybe the next option would be is have a meeting not just with the parties that
were involved but the parties that were involved and some others if you need you
know like myself and also Bree he's new he he just started um uh you know two
days ago uh and he's been drinking water from a hose like he says so that's uh
that we need to get him caught up too. So I think that would be one thing is to
start there and see where we are. Now, here's the thing, and I I think I've
said this before, but the PD that was adopted August the or October the 11th,
2022 did have a concept plan attached to the ordinance. So, that is the law on
that. I don't think anybody would disagree with that. So, the question is,
does the new concept plan conform with that concept plan then? And if not, what
has changed? Because there are avenues and you know this as well as I do. There
are avenues where there and and there there may be a difference of opinion on
what a minor deviation from the concept plan is. I don't really have a problem
if there's uh minor deviations saying yeah this concept plan we're not going
to have an issue with that. If they're major then maybe we need to do an
amendment to the PD. So and I think that's something that the city can fast
track. I think we can get that done inside of a month. uh depending on if
that's the the route that we want to go. That's what I think.
» Okay, let's pause for station identification. I was stopped
via a rejection for nonconformance
and beg and pleaded to get this opportunity which I'm grateful to have
had tonight to present as directed the determination by this body as to whether
or not our use was in conformance. And I stated at the request of Mr. Sanchez and
Mr. chairman to provide a narrative stating my reasons as to why we were in
conformance. Was then told that the agenda was being
printed as stated that the request was for the city council to interpret plan
development conformance. Not trying to beat a dead horse.
I'm here asking for them to confirm or deny
as to whether or not we're in conformance as required because I can't
go to the next step. I've provided everything. I've provided all our
checklist. I'm in conformance. I am at the discretion of this gentleman right
here who can't take me to the planning and zoning commission to discuss site
plan approval items
outside of the purview of deliberating to whether or not we're even in
conformance to get to a site plan approval.
So that's I I I totally respect and understand and certainly not barking at
you as it relates to the fact of what was written on the
agenda is in fact not even allowed or applicable, which is a whole another
problem. We're creating more damages on myself
here. What am I supposed to do next? I I I don't know what else to sit down with
this gentleman who's extremely unreasonable with what we've already
provided for him. And we've given all kinds of information stating our
perspective and our inside of our own purview which seems to be rather limited
stating how we are in fact in conformance
and he states that we have to go get their blessing before we can go to the
next step. I would love Mr. Mayor to ask for freaking sight plan approval tonight
but it's obviously not there. >> Mr. Holla, I apologize Mr. Barry. He
he's bringing up some new points. Um, and I've been asked,
» can we go back into executive session? We have some more questions now. He's
brought up some new points and I think we
» I think we owe Mr. Barry the correct answers as we stated in there. And I
want to make sure that's delivered tonight. I do not I was told a good
story that uh, you know, if you're off by one inch as a carpenter, once it's
built, you can't go back and redo it. And I I don't want to put us in that
situation. Uh, so I would like to take us back into executive session. Do I
have to read the paragraph again? >> Yes, sir.
» Okay. Uh, when we go back into executive session, Payton, I'm going to need you
to come in on this one. Uh, city council for the city of Minton Chisum, Texas
reserves the right to convene into executive session at any time during the
course of this meeting to discuss any of the matters listed as authorized by
Texas government code chapter 551073 real property. I'm going to do a fivem
minute recess so that anyone can use the restroom and then we will be in
executive session at 8:05.
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We're just waiting on Mr. Holla. Just waiting on Mr. Holla.
It is 8:22. I appreciate your patience. We are back from executive session.
Um I'm going to end up turning this back over to Mr. Holla. Um but I I do want to
stress um to Mr. Barry that I'm going to ask staff
Fabric and Mr. Holla to uh and again Mr. is going to speak in a minute, but I
have asked them to both reach out to you tomorrow, figure out a time they can set
up a conference call uh so that all three of you can be on the phone. Um I
apologize. Um I I accept responsibility as a mayor
that this should have been done better, handled better. Um, at the end of the
day, I can't regulate how developers do things, but I can take responsibility
when the city fails to do what I would think would be for any developer
standing in front of us, whether it's you, Mr. Palani, Mr. Whittle, whomever
it is, I feel we're here to serve and that's what we should do. And so, please
accept my apologies. And with that being said, Mr. Hollow.
» Thanks, Mayor. Appreciate it. So, I think uh and I appreciate you doing
that, Mayor. And even though you didn't have to, I think it was just a
misunderstanding of the way our ordinance was written and so it never
should have been on the agenda. And so yeah, I'm happy to to get with Breeze
and and we'll sit down just to see where we are. You definitely have the option.
You can say, "Hey, look, I appreciate it, but no, thank you." Uh, and we can
get it on the the site plan approval on the next P&Z agenda if that's an option
that you want to take. And we can talk through all that about exactly how you
might want to do that. uh because there's a couple different avenues to
getting that done. So, um I would expect uh in fact, even if you have enough time
tomorrow afternoon, we're going to have a meeting here at 6:30 tomorrow night.
So, I don't have anything uh planned in the afternoon because I made
arrangements to uh uh to be here. I don't mind getting early being here
early for precess time. Um if y'all want to come, you know, say 3:00, 3:30,
something like that. >> Would that work for you, Mr. Barry?
» I'll make whatever work. I just want assurance that we're going to be on the
next planning and zoning commission for a site plan approval.
» Let's let's do that for sure. But if you can be with Mr. Holla and Mr. Fris
Kabona tomorrow at 3:30 here at city hall and then that way y'all can have
face to face time versus phone call, would that work for you Mr. Reiano as
well? >> Okay.
Um, and >> to answer your question, one of the
things that was discussed and they will go into it tomorrow was is October 21st
is the earliest we can get you on a PNZ due to notices having to be mailed out.
Is that correct? And then that would put you on the 28th council meeting, but
they have I want them to be able to talk to you about other options as well. Uh,
and they can do that tomorrow in y'all's meeting at 3:30.
» That's all I can ask for. I appreciate everybody's patience. Thank you. Thank
you, Mr. Barry and Mr. Riano. Thank you so much.
Okay, so no action taken on 8.2 and again I appreciate everyone's
patience. Um
8 8.3 discuss and consider a resolution restricting the use of proceeds of bonds
issued to finance public improvements in the Sonoma Public Improvement District.
» I'll entertain a motion. >> So move.
» Second. >> Second.
» Is this one back to you or the city? >> This is going to be me and then Mayor
Pro Tim Brewer. Um, council and mayor, you may remember several months ago,
Mayor Prom Brewer and I were assigned the project of exploring the sale of the
water pipes in Soma Verde to RCH. We met with our pit administrator P3 Works who
uh totally understands that there was developer money also went into the
infrastructure of Sonoma Verde 1 through5 but they wanted us to have a
document in place that stated PID money did not pay for water infrastructure.
This is the resolution in front of you tonight and then we can move forward
with next steps. I appreciate you doing that, Bev. And Mayor Pro Tim, I'll turn
it back over to you. >> I'll just add one of the reasons we're
having to do this as well as we don't want to lose the tax exempt status of
the bonds. If we resell the pipes and the bond
money was used, we'd lose the tax exempt status of that.
» Ah, that's a very good key point and that
might have answered Mr. Dean's question. Um, Mr. Mr. London, I'll start with you
if you have any questions for Mr. Brewer or M.
» I'm good. Actually, it was the the tax question.
» Mr. Towry, I know Mr. Brewer is good. Mr. Dean
» answers my question. Thank you. >> I figured it did I.
» Mr. Goodly, you can do it. >> Hit Mr. Powers. Well, with that, I think
we'll take a vote. All those in favor say I.
» I. I. >> I.
» Well done. >> I
Very well done. And on 8.4, um this is to discuss and approve a bid for the
remodel of the old fire station. I will be
uh removing this. However, I'm going to um direct staff to do an RFP on this uh
and bring it back to council with those if you can please for brief.
8.5 Discuss and consider approving an
ordinance amending the 2024 2025 fiscal year budget finding municipal purposes
authorizing expenditures providing for a severability clause and providing for an
effective date. Uh I'll entertain a motion on this.
» So move second. >> Second.
» And this one looks like it's going to Jeff.
Thank you, Mayor and Council. This is just wrapping up the uh current fiscal
year's budget. Um the amendments are based on additional revenues that came
in, expenses, some of which were approved at by council for expenditures
throughout the year. Um some uh are just line items that we either didn't spend
as much as budgeted or we spent more. Um so this is just basically tidying up the
budget for the for the year.
Mr. Love, Mr. Cowry, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Deing, Mr. Sidley.
» Good. >> And Mr. Powers.
» All right. All those in favor say I. >> I.
» I. >> I.
» 8.6. discuss and consider approval of the appointment of five members to the
comprehensive plan advisory committee. Uh with this being an approval, uh I'll
entertain a motion. So moved. >> Second.
» Second. >> M Stevens.
Mayor and council member. This item is regarding appointing uh five members to
the comprehensive plan advisory committee. U staff is in front of you.
You should have a file with all the applications that have been received. Uh
staff is recommending appointing Mr. Mark Russo, uh Mr. Garrett Nickel, Mr.
Justin Rugiano, Mr. Becca Freeze, Mr. David Black,
and Mr. David Black. Uh and that would be we have uh and that would be
obviously to begin working with Sanchez and associates on a comprehensive plan
update. Uh we have with us this evening Mr. Martin Sanchez. Uh should you have
any questions at this time?
» How many people is that? >> It's five.
» Five. >> Five.
» You want me to list the names? >> No, it's I was thrown off.
» Yes. >> Understood. Got it. I'm
» I like that. Um so if everyone accepts those names um um
since we did a motion to second if all approve those names say I
» I
>> I
» I'm an I. >> Mr. Black will be watching you.
Just kidding. Thank you Mr. black for uh volunteering.
Um, discuss and consider Rockball Wall County appraisal district board of
directors nominee. Um,
this one doesn't need an action. It looks like it says discuss and consider.
» There's a resolution. >> Oh, there's a resolution. All right.
I'll entertain a motion. >> So moved.
» Second. >> Second.
» Back to y'all and council members. This item is about uh submitting a nomination
for the ARCAD board of directors. Uh staff is recommending
nominating Mr. Tony Crawford who has submitted his application for the Arcade
board. Um you should have included in your packet a copy of his biography
uh attached with his along with his qualifications. Uh with that staff
recommends approval of this item and Mr. Crawford is in the audience this evening
in case you have any questions for him. >> I can assure you that I'm an I'm going
to be a yay and I will not put Mr. Crawford through what he went through
last time. So I'm a yay. If everyone else is a yay, I'll take that now so we
can move on.
» Yay. >> Yay. Yay.
» Yay. >> Abstain. No, I'm kidding. Yay.
» Mr. Crawford, you set yourself up for the punishment, so we appreciate you.
Uh,
it's too late now, sir. It's too late now.
» Yep.
8.8. Discuss and consider directing staff to advertise for finance and audit
committee members.
This is just an item directing to consider directing staff uh to advertise
for the finance and audit committee members.
So directives. Anybody have any questions on that one?
» All right. 8.9. Discuss and consider approving the
creation of an economic No. Because we're director.
uh discuss and consider approving the creation of an economic development
committee. >> This is also an item to consider
directing staff to create the creation of an economic development committee.
» Um does anybody have any questions on this one?
» And advertise for volunteers. >> Anybody have any questions?
» Uh yeah. So I discovered I was on the economic I was the economic liaison.
» Yeah. You can blame uh there's an outgoing city manager that you can blame
for that one. >> I wasn't invited to Croatia and Italy on
the trip, so sorry. >> There you go.
» All right. Uh yeah, no, that's fine. I think this would be great. I I haven't
quite thought in my head how we want this. I actually would want whoever
volunteers, the group that volunteers to kind of give the direction. But I think
uh when we talk about trying to recruit businesses here, it would be very
helpful for them to maybe give us some ideas on what is a very uh enticing way
to to recruit people. >> So I had one of my many meetings with
Free today. Uh and I know he's going to be meeting with all of you on council.
He actually had a really awesome idea when we spoke. So, I'll let him share
that when y'all meet. Um, but u make sure that you have the input on the uh
process since you're going to be the one heading it and next time invite Bev to
Croatia, you won't be on a committee. >> Mr. Towry, do you have anything on this
one? I was just going to say uh once it is um um once the committee is put
together, it would be nice to do some kind of like workshop or something maybe
with with council just to kind of get their feedback and kind of everybody's
on the same page of the vision going forward and what we want to bring in. I
think that may be helpful as well. >> Yeah, absolutely.
» Absolutely. All right. So, you got direction on that? Are you good to go?
» Okay, next one. will discuss and consider action to approve the requests
for qualification notice and packets to be sent to engineering firms
specializing in road maintenance. I'll entertain a motion.
» So moved. >> Is there a second?
» Second. >> All right. And that one will go to
» This one actually goes to Councilman Powers.
» Councilman Powers. >> Uh yes. This was the request that we
made a few a couple of city council meetings ago. Excuse me. Excuse me. I
apologize. 8.9 says, "Discuss and consider approving the creation. That's
not direction." So, I apologize. Um, let me entertain a motion on 8.9 to
» move. >> Second.
» Second. >> All in favor say I.
» I. >> I.
» I. Thank you, council, for catching that.
» There you are, Angela. Apologize. Now, 8.10. We've already read We've
already taken the motion and second, and I apologize for cutting you off, Mr.
hours, but we had to get that part done. Back to you, sir.
» Quite. All right. Yeah, I'll be very brief. This was from a couple city
council meetings ago where we were um sub submitted wanted to do this so that
we could have a professional organization
uh do a study on the uh streets both public and private in our city and
ascertain their you know all the stats about them and their their uh
construction type and the condition that they're in. so that we would have an
idea of what would be needed in today's dollars to bring all of those
streets and roads up to standard if that's what we choose to do. At least
we'll know what the size of the issue is facing us. Um and then with that
um we the apparently staff has gone out and
look and located two or three companies that we can contact.
You have not done that yet. >> When you issue an RFQ in the newspaper,
it's up to them to reach back out to us. >> Okay. So, have So, we have not done that
part yet. >> We have not issued the RFQ. That's what
we're voting on tonight. >> Correct. Okay. Want to make sure I had
that right. So, we're going to direct you to to take care of that.
Is that okay with everybody? >> So, so directed.
» All right. So, all those in favor say I. >> I. I
» I >> I
» Next up, before I read it, Fabric, normally Angela reads the agenda items.
I just did it tonight just to expedite us because of the length of 8.2.
8.11 discuss and consider approval of a final
plat of one lot necessary for development. The property is a 3acre lot
track of land located on the north side of state highway 205 between League Road
and FM 548 within the city limits of Mlin and Chisum. The track is fully
zoned in the single family residential SF 2.5 district. I'll entertain a
motion. So move second.
» Second. >> And that opens it up for discussion.
Who is on this one? city please.
» Good evening. Uh the applicant is requesting approval of of a final plat
of one lot necessary for development. Uh this applicant specifically obtained a
board of adjustment approval on August 13th of this year um for this to be
correctly platted. Um that was for the access easement to exceed 600 ft um as
outlined in our subdivision ordinance. So now that that BOA approval has been
obtained, this plot is in complete conformance with the subdivision
ordinance. Happy to answer any questions. Mr.
London, do you have any questions? >> When I was reading through it, I was
just going through it again. I saw that this is actually a 40 acre tract.
» Uh it's 28 acres roughly and the land was conveyed without pladding. So this
was more so a retroactive effort uh more than anything. So,
» okay. So, they're just bringing into conformity with what they want to do
with an >> Yes, sir. That's correct. They went
through Burgess through our residential review entity and they got a permit hold
with them that triggered the platting process with me and then that and then
after initial review found out a variance was needed. So, they had to go
BOA1 and then platting two. >> Okay. So, they're repl
they're only final platting the threeacre track that's listed in the
staff report. >> Great. Councilman London, if I can help
with this a little bit. This is a large family track that pieces were just given
off by grandparents. And so to get their building permit, it
had to be legally plant platted. >> And that's that's why I was asking
because I I originally read in there somewhere and I can't remember exact
where I think it's on page 262 where it was talking about there was a 40 acre
and then the the divisions and so Okay. Thank you,
» Mr. Towering. Mr. Brewer. Mr. Dean,
» I think it's important to note PNZ approved it seven to nothing. Um, so
I don't know if that means we're super majority or what.
» It's pretty strong. >> Okay,
good. Good powers.
» All right, we've had the motion and the second. All those in favor say I. I
» I >> I
» I
» All righty. That takes us to our council member reports and announcements.
Jeff, >> I do not have anything this evening.
» Hey, Chief Mr. London. Um, I'm just going to say, mayor, thank
you for putting together and uh allowing me to participate in that operation to
get that sign and flag out for the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I really
appreciate that. And we got a lot of positive feedback from that. So, thank
you. >> Operation Lone Ranger. Uh, for the
record, I was uh Kimosabi and he was Tanto.
Mr. Brewer. Uh, I just wanted to say, um, thank you
to Bev. Um,
she's been a a great den mother to us, >> particularly to one person in
particular, but um, but I but I I really do appreciate the
work you've been doing. um the transition from a general law to a home
rule city. It it's one thing to get the document done. It's another thing to get
the vote uh get approval. But the third and most important thing is the
implementation and you jumped right into it and got it done. So thank you for
that. I enjoyed working with you. >> Mr. London, I'm going to give you an
opportunity to say something to Bev.
Absolutely. Thank you for all of your um I'll say guidance and sometimes using
the foot against my backside to gently guide me. Um I I do need that. So, you
know, you you've been a a vital part of this city for a very long time and we
definitely want you to stick around and continue providing your input. I know
you're not going anywhere. So, I do have a bottle of bourbon with their name on
it. So, we'll take care of that. Thank you, Ben.
Alrighty, Mr. Tower. >> Yeah, I do appreciate it. I think it
could have been better timing having you come in with all us new rascals up here
trying to figure this out and I felt like you that Denmother is probably the
perfect we were just, you know, so I I do appreciate all the guidance and um
and I couldn't ask for a better uh person by our side to help us through
this. >> Even though I wouldn't let you wear a
hat. >> Now I got to cut my hair more often.
Okay.
» All right. Mr. H. Uh, Mr. Dean, sentiments. Uh, exactly. I I'm pretty
sure when you took the job, you didn't know you'd be kneede in in sewage.
Uh, and yeah, >> Mr. If you only knew that that that
wastewater are my least two favorite words through this whole eight months
cuz it started on week one where I sat down and they started talking to me
about sewer lines and expansions and lift stations and I'm like I had no
idea. >> She did look a little comfortable with
the so thanks for that. I I I also would want to call out Mayor McNeel. I don't
know if that Charlie Kirk Memorial could have happened without what he did. Uh he
is the go-to guy in Rock Wall County to make a production like that. And so, um
I I was happy we had a chance to uh to honor the memory of of Charlie Kirk and
uh Mayor McNeel helped helped that to happen. So, appreciate it.
» Thank you. Um you did surprise me and then didn't realize your wife got a
candid shot of us. So, that was We now have to keep an eye on Helen.
» Yes, I did not know she was taking pictures. That was not Mr. Good.
» Uh, I just wanted to let everyone know norm normally I'm doing my second
Wednesdays at Rosa's meeting with council do breakfast. Uh, this month
I've got to change it to the first Wednesday to the first. Um, so October
1st meet with council 7:30 at Roses near the near the uh the 30. um open to hear
any questions or or answer any questions. Um so just being available to
the community. I'd like to shift now. Um thank you. Thank you for helping us all
come on and and really for somebody that has to have the dots connected but maybe
their brain doesn't go fast enough. You always slowed it down for me, connected
the dots. Um, I really appreciate it because you probably had to overexlain
things. Um, and I just I can't tell you how much I appreciate you and um, just
how much you've done for this community over all the years. So, thank you.
» There will be lots of jokes, Mr. Goodwin. Lots of jokes, Mr. Powers.
Uh, you've already heard me say many times that you're a treasure for this
city and, uh, you've been here since 1980. you've had your finger in the
pies, fingers in the pie ever since then, wearing so many different hats.
And uh so somebody that has that kind of of time in the city 45 years uh and been
active the whole time, it's truly a treasure. And I know you're tired of
hearing all these compliments, but I'll give you one more. Um and I've already
said it earlier. I'm looking forward to seeing you up there stating your un
unfiltered opinion on various topics that may come up.
» You are probably the only one sitting up there that is looking
» say do you really want that? >> 100%.
» Be know how to give a filter. >> Mr. Holla, do you have anything?
» I do. I appreciate it. there. I I mean, Bev, I always knew I've known you for
close to 20 years now. I always knew you were smart. I mean, you showed that with
with phone calls that we had, you know, during the day, at night, on the
weekends, and how you totally took advantage of the fact I love you would
never build a city for that and the thousands of dollars you saved them. So,
you showed me you were smart. You know, even when you would call just to
complain about how you to talk slowly, connect the dots for Council Member
Goodwin. He wasn't. I I never I never mind it. And actually, as soon as you
said that, I whispered, "But Bev, I got I said, I got one." But in all
seriousness, I I worked with you early on. We kept in touch during the times
that I wasn't a part of the city, so I always knew what was going on in the
city. And I remember thinking, "Oh, okay. You know, Bev's got a lot a lot of
that she can offer as a city administrator." I said, I I there's a
lot there that she can do. My only concern is she hasn't actually done the
job. So, it was there were times that I literally forgot that you hadn't been a
city administrator her whole life. And I I've told you more than once and and I
mean it that it you missed your call. I think you are you you just jumped into
the job. You had natural instincts a ppeaciousness about the the job and how
to do the job and and what how to react and what to say and what to do that you
you can't always teach somebody. Sure, people can learn it, but you didn't
necessarily need, you know, to learn that. You just the actual, you know,
training, seminars, whatever, whatever. Um, you you didn't have that, but you
just had a natural ability to do it. And it just really over time it really
amazed me and I appreciated that about you and I appreciated the fact that you
know all seriousness is you don't really give filtered opinions. I mean, you you
I I think that is good for us in cities to know there's so much to what we do
that is in black and white and I've just always
appreciated knowing you and you know me meant a lot to me personally and how
you've been there for me when I've needed things and how our friendship,
you know, has grown over this and I know you're going to be around but it's going
to be, you know, it's going to be, you know, different. I mean, you're you call
and and you know, honestly, half the time that I never put anything on the
bill was was, you know, there may be 15 minutes, 20 minutes of city business and
then 15 or 20 minutes of us just, you know, talking and so I I know you're
going to still be around. I am excited about Breeze. I mean, I genuinely am.
I've known him for a while and I'm being dead serious. I am very excited about
Freeze. He was the guy who was hoping it was all I could do. I had to sit on my
hands and sit on my lips to not say anything, you know, about Freeze. I'm
excited, but I'm I'm generally in and with all my heart going to miss having
you around and and you'll always be my friend. And if you ever need anything,
you can always just let me know that. >> City Manager Cabona, when you've been
here 45 years, we'll say nice things about you, too.
» Fabric, I'm going to allow you to say some comments as well.
» Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. So, for one, I do want to thank uh MV. Uh it
really doesn't take too much to recognize just the wealth of
information, the wealth of knowledge that she carries with her, the
commitment and dedication that she has for the city of Mland and Chisum. Uh
I've been extremely lucky. Not most new city managers don't have somebody to
hold their hands during the transition process and she's been that for me.
She's graciously been willing to do that for me and I really appreciate it. Um
and and that's part of the reason why we've decided to keep her on an as
needed basis. It's because she has such a she's such a
resource. Uh so thank you. Thank you on a personal level. I really appreciate
it. Uh it's a pleasure. I'm I'm excited to be able to join the city and I'm
looking forward to everything that we'll be able to accomplish. I'm looking
forward to working with the team and with you serving under your leadership,
mayor and council members. Um, and secondly, I do want to remind you that
we have a joint training session tomorrow evening at 6:30 p.m. that will
be provided by Mr. Holla and that would be between uh with city council and PNZ.
Thank you. >> And I do want to point out, mayor, that
another amazing thing about Bev, no one probably in my 26 years of doing this
has ever asked for my advice more and taken it less than Bev.
» I understand. Angela, I want you if you want to say anything to Bev and then
I'll close this out. >> Just want to say thank you for helping
in that transition because when one person leaves, you never know what
you're going to get. So, you are now helping us through two. We're very glad
that Fuse is here. I think it's going to be a great addition to the city. But,
thank you very much for all that you've done for the staff. We love you.
and I will close us out. Um, Bev, thank you. Uh, probably one of the hats I will
miss the least is the uh, mayor and city manager hat. Um, many of you not know
this, but Bev and I have many hats in our discussions throughout the day. Uh,
we have mom son hat, we have Brian and Bev hat, we have city manager and mayor
hat, and probably a few others. And I jokingly say that because I don't know
if I would be the mayor I am today if it wouldn't have been for your guidance.
And I know we joke a lot that I didn't take your advice. Uh I know that so I'm
basically blaming her for all the videos. I'm basically blaming her for
all the posts. Basically every speech written uh is Beth Dibbons. Uh I will be
happy to give her personal email out. On a serious note, you have been a solid
person in my corner and I appreciate that very much. Um, also with that said,
Fabric, welcome to the city of Mlennon Chisum. I
look forward to working with you. I've already had a few sit downs and talks
with you. Uh I know you have time set to meet with the council members and I can
only assure them that they are about to be super impressed uh with the visions
and the things that you're going to bring to the city and I am looking very
forward to working with you. And lastly, my next ask is our next council meeting
is October 14th. Okay. Um that's Charlie Kirk's birthday and I would ask us to
all be in red. So, if we can all wear red on October
14th, I would appreciate that, council. Uh, I'll leave that up to you. If you
want to wear a red freedom shirt or however you want to do that, uh, staff,
I would ask y'all to do the same in that.
And also, there is a meeting scheduled for council on in November that is going
to be November 11th. That is Veterans Day. I will be cancelling that and I
will be calling a special meeting for November 18th. Uh I will not hold a
council meeting on Veterans Day um because we will be honoring veterans
that evening uh with a sunset um event and I will not dishonor uh veterans by
holding a council meeting when we need to be honoring them. So please know that
I will cancel November 11th and I will move us to November 18th. So council, if
y'all can make yourselves aware, staff Angela, you need to know that for
posting purposes with the new law changes. And with that, it is 8:5. Oh,
go ahead. >> I do want to let our audience know that
uh we have the extreme green event this Saturday from 8 to noon.
So, there's an opportunity for you. >> Extreme. There's a social media post
today that lists the items that they're accepting. So, please take a look at
that so that you don't bring something that they can't accept. And they are
doing shredding as well. Document shredding.
It is it is 8:55 and we are adjourned.
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