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Good afternoon. Welcome to the Mesa City
Council meeting for August 17, 2026.

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Mayor Freeman is out of town and is
excused as is council member Adams who

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is not able to attend. Uh we'll start
our meeting uh with a moment of silence

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uh followed by the pledge of allegiance
which will be given by Jackson Jones

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from Troop 54. Would you all stand for a
moment of silence, please?

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Thank you, Jackson.

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Please join me in the pledge of
allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> Well done. Thank you.

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All right. Before we go on to the
consent agenda, Miss Mosley, could you

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say the names of the three people that
will be speaking under the items from

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citizens present?
>> Sure. After running the randomizer, I

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have listed number one will be Jason
Smithson, number two will be Noah James

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Markham, and number three will be be
Leanne McKelby.

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» Leanne
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and Jason Smithson, right? I didn't see
him out there, but I'm sure he's here.

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All right.

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So, why don't we do this? We're going to
go on to awards and recognition because

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I think we have one, Mr. Butler.
>> Okay, this one might be kind of exciting

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for uh all of us uh especially me. So,
the next item in the agenda is to

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recognize recent awards and
announcements.

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And tonight I am very excited to sh to
share an extraordinary accomplishment by

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our library department. The Mesa Gateway
Library, our newest branch library,

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first in over 30 years, received a 2026

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James Bennett Public Library of the Year
award. And this is a global recognition

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and something for all of us to be proud
of. It's seems like just yesterday in

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December that this library opened in
such an unique space. Uh one of the best

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libraries in
>> in Mesa, don't you think?

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» My colleague over here is a little
jealous.

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» Uh you know, as council member
representing the district, obviously you

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can tell uh there there's a little
rivalry going on, but it's it's

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something truly uh unbelievable. For 20
years really, we've been asking in

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Southeast Mesa for a library and
probably for you and your department and

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everybody involved in this to knock it
on out of the ballpark the way you did

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uh to to receive this kind of
recognition is is really something

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special. Gateway was made possible u by
the support of voters. This was part of

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a GI bond. We tell you all the time,
what city do you want to live in? Well,

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these are your opportunities to get
involved and for those folks who

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supported the library and continue to do
so, uh we extend our grateful

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appreciation because this is the kind of
community asset that that we will be

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able to appreciate for so many decades
to come. This honor also reflects the

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leadership, collaboration, and
innovative thinking of our library

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staff, our volunteers. Thank you so much
to all of our volunteers and the board

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members of the library who donate their
time uh to make these these a reality.

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Their work has made Mesa Libraries truly
a world-class resource for families

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throughout our city. Paulie Bennett, our
library director over here in the front

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row and members of her team were on hand
to accept the award on Mesa's behalf.

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I'd like to invite Paulie to the podium
to tell us more about that experience.

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After that, we'll join her down below
for a group photo. Paulie,

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good evening, Vice Mayor and Council.
Um, it's an honor to be here tonight to

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uh receive this recognition for the
Gateway Library. It's still a little bit

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surreal having accepted this um on
behalf of Mesa with libraries around the

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world recognizing the design. So, I'm
very proud proud for um being a part of

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team Mesa and for what we've been able
to offer for our residents. Um the award

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recognizes innovative and thoughtful
community centered design and vice mayor

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as you mentioned that's something that
our residents really u took to heart

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when we started asking questions about
what what do you dream of when you think

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of a new library in Mesa and from the
beginning our vision was we really

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wanted to exceed the expectations for
our community of what a traditional

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library might offer. We wanted it to be
more of a transformational experience

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and that was from um just the way that
we collaborated with our community

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partners with all of our city
stakeholders. We really wanted to think

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outside of the box and that was
recognized by LAA and the James Bennett

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jury. One of the things that I kept
hearing from jury members and some of

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the libraries that were recognized was
how um well beautiful and stunning the

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library facility is itself, but how it
encouraged those connections in the

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community, connections with one another,
connections to learning and curiosity,

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and how it integrated so nicely into the
setting and really became the heart of

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the community. And we're already seeing
the impact for the city's investment.

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We've seen over 170,000 people come
through Gateway's door since we opened

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in December and that's about 31% more
in-house visitors across our library

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system in this past year. So, we've
really had a fa fantastic turnout. We've

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had such a warm reception from our
community and it has created this sense

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of belonging and sense of place. Another
um thing I do want to mention as far as

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how it's being used is we've seen over
48% of program attendance increase

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across our library system. And that
really emphasizes how much of a

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community hub that the library is. And
lastly, beyond the numbers, we're

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hearing how it's being used and how much
people enjoy using this new facility.

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Whether it's daily, we have kids who are
asking their parents to come every day

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after school, which is a feat in and of
itself. And also, we have people who

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just make it part of their routine. Um,
we have new community partnerships that

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are being formed because of this space.
It's allowed us that opportunity. And of

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course, we're getting attention in Mesa
and now beyond Mesa. So, it's really a

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proud moment for us. And even more so,
it's great to be able to shine a light

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on the great things that are happening
in Mesa. Further shine a light. We're

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proud of what we've been able to do
working with our residents and our

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library staff and our city partners,
city council, but really it's a platform

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to show what a great city Mesa is to
visit, live in, and work in. So, we

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appreciate it. Thank you.
>> And it has such unique features as maker

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spaces, not just books. 21st century
library has maker spaces. It has a

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sensory room uh room for uh our folks
with autism. So, we're sensitive to

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that. Uh the garden that's out there and
lessons in water use. So, it's really

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taken a library from what what we
thought about you got to be quiet in a

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library to yeah, let's go ahead and
create something that's really new and

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unique. So, I really appreciate that
forward thinking.

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» Thank you. We were hoping that we
created the library of the future and

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Romy the robot is actually doing more
now. So next time you come to visit

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Romy, he has a few more things he can
do. Few more work or security or

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» not yet.
>> That thing creeps me out. All right, why

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don't we take a picture, Mr. City
Manager?

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Did you notice?
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Squish a little bit.

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» Jody's excited.

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» [applause]

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» All right. Now, on to the consent
agenda. Mr. Christopher, let's see if

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you can top that.
We do have a few items off of consent.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks
like 4 E.

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» Yep.
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» Yep.
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» 5B,
and 5 C. Is that what you have?

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» That's what I've got.
>> Okay. And then there for a speaker,

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there's also 7 A and 8A, but those are
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» Mr. Christopher.
>> Good evening, Vice Mayor, council

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members. These are the items on the
consent agenda. All items listed with an

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asterisk will be considered as a group
by the city council and will be enacted

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with one motion. There will be no
separate discussion unless a council

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member or citizen request in which event
the item will be removed from the

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consent agenda and considered as a
separate item. Item two, approval of

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minutes of previous meetings is written.
Item 3 A, act on liquor license

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application for the drink all 235 North
Country Club Drive. Item 3 B, act on

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liquor license application for Church
Craft Coffee and Cocktails, 127 West

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Pepper Place. Item 3 C, act on liquor
license for Lati Latiandida,

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Colombana, 456 West Main Street. Item 3
D, act on a liquor license application

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for Tempo by Hilton Galloway Park and
Homewood Suites, 5057 South Power Road.

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Item 3 E, act on liquor license
application for Crazy Cajun Seafood in

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Habachi, 655 East Southern Avenue. Item
3 F, act on liquor license application

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for Lenny's Craft Burger, 4525 South
Power Road. Item 4 A, approving

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three-year term contract with two-year
renewal options for electric substation

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infrastructure work for the energy
resources department. Item 4 B,

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approving three-year term contract with
two-year renewal options for ball valves

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for the materials and supply warehouse
for the energy resources department.

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Item 4 C, approving three-year term
contract with two-year renewal options

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for gas meters for the materials and
supply warehouse for the energy

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resources department. Item 4 D,
approving dollar limit increase to the

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cooperative use term contract for
industrial plumbing supplies for the

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water resources and facilities
management departments. Item 4 E has

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been removed from the consent agenda.
Item 4F, approving three-year term

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contract with two-year renewal options
for roofing, repair, and installation

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services for the facilities management
department. Item 4G, approving contract

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to purchase one liquid chromatograph
tandem mass spectrometry instrument for

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the public safety support department.
This is funded by the governor's office

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of highway safety. Item 4H has been
removed from the consent agenda. Item 4

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I, approving three-year term contract
with two-year renewal options for

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Striker Lewis 3 mechanical CPR devices
for the Mesa Fire and Medical

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Department. This is partially funded by
a FEMA AFG grant. Item 4J, approving

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10-month use of a cooperative term
contract with a one-year renewal option

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for the purchase of fire station alert
equipment, software, and support for the

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Department of Innovation and Technology
and the Mesa Fire Medical Department.

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Item 4K, approving dollar limit increase
to the state of Arizona cooperative

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contract for capital expenditure
agreement for Motorola Systems upgrade 2

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for the Topaz Regional Wireless
Cooperative as requested by the

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Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4L, approving three-year term

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contract for Tungsten Total Agility
Document Scanning Platform for the

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Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4 M's been removed from the consent

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agenda. Item 5A, approving resolution to
enter into an agreement for management

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and operations services with Legends
Global to manage, operate, and market

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the Mesa Convention Center and Mesa
Amphitheater. Items 5B and 5C have been

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removed from the consent agenda. Item
5D, approving a resolution enter into an

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intergovernmental agreement with the
regional public transportation authority

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for design and construction management
of improvements to existing bus stops at

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various locations in Mesa. part of the
projects funded by a federal grant and

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by transit advertising revenue. Item 6A,
introduction of ordinance amending

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sections 10-4-2 and 10-4-3 of the Mesa
City Code to establish a continuous

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speed limit of 45 miles per hour on
Ellsworth Road from the north city

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limits to the south city limits by
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between Elliot Road and the South City
limit. Vice Mayor and council members,

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these are the items on the consent
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» Thank you, Mr. Christopher. You made it
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for Do we have any other items to be
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» No other items.
>> Any council have any comments,

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questions? All right. With that, I do
have a a statement from the mayor on

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item 5A that he would like read into the
record. So, I'll do that. Uh the mayor's

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statements. So item 5A, so everyone
knows, a resolution approving and

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authorizing the city manager to enter
into an agreement for management and

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operations with Legends Global for the
Convention Center uh to manage, operate,

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market Mesa Convention Center and
Amphitheater. That is on the consent

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agenda. And the mayor's statement is,
"I'm sorry I could not be at tonight's

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council meeting, but I want to express
my appreciation to everyone who has

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helped bring us to this important moment
for the Mesa Convention Center and

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Amphitheater. Since taking office of
mayor, I have been passionate about

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finding a path forward for these
important community assets. Early on, I

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began conversations with the city
manager, Scott Butler, about how we

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could reinvest in these facilities,
strengthen their future, and explore a

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public private partnership that could
bring new opportunities to downtown Mesa

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while protecting the interests of our
taxpayers. Tonight's action represents

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an important step toward that vision.
The Mesa Amphitheater is one of our

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city's jewels and together with the
convention center. It has been a

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tremendous potential. I believe this new
direction will help us build on that

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legacy, bring renewed energy and
investment to these facilities and

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contribute
to an even stronger and more vibrant

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downtown Mesa. I also want to thank the
employees of the convention center and

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amphitheater for their service and
dedication to our community. I'm excited

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about what lies ahead and confident in
the future of these important Mesa

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destinations. Thank you, Mayor Mark
Freeman. So, with that, is there a

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motion on the consent agenda?
Have a motion from council member

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Goforth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.

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Motion passes
five to nothing with the mayor and

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council member uh Adams excused.
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So, let's go on.

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[sighs]
Let's go to the items that are uh not on

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the consent agenda. I guess item 4E.
Noah, I think you pulled this one. Let

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me read it.
Yeah. Is a 15-month use of a cooperative

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term contract with one one-year renewal
option for facility maintenance, repair,

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and operations uh for water resources
department. Noah, you have three.

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» Um aloha, vice mayor, and to the rest of
the city council. Um, I really do like

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this one and I haven't been here in a
while. So, um, because I've been

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fighting people that have been not even
talking about water. They've been

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talking about free Palestine instead.
But, um, yeah. So, let's just talk about

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this. This is great. We need the water
here in um, Arizona and this is a very

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big concern and so I'm so thankful for
the people that are taking care of our

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water in Mesa and Arizona. So, thank
you. Please approve this. Thank you.

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» All right. Thank you, Noah.
With that, any council members wish to

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speak on this item? I'll take a motion
on item 4E, 15month use of a cooperative

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term contract. I have a motion from
council member Taylor, a second from

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council member Duff. Please vote.

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Five eyes, no A's, with two absent. All
right. What was next? 4 H.

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Mr. Davis 4
was the use of a cooperative contract

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for the purchase of an E1 Cyclone custom
cab utility truck replacement for the

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fire and medical department.
Good evening, honorable vice mayor and

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city council members. I have a couple of
questions about this issue. Number one

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is how often is this particular unit
used and what is the current annual

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costs of maintenance of this equipment?
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» just those two.
>> Just those two questions.

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» Okay, great. We have someone from the
fire department, Mr. Butler.

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» We do. We have staff from M fire and
medical that can speak to this that are

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making Jason's making his way up right
now. Yeah.

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» And perhaps we'll start with a very
brief overview of what this utility

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truck does on a fire ground.

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Vice Mayor, council members, the utility
truck is used for a lot of the bigger

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major scenes. It provides light and air
to be able to refill SCBAs for a

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continuous scene. Um, that's
predominantly what that thing's used

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for. In in terms of frequency, um, I I
don't really have any numbers um in

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regards on how it is, but I do know in
the summertime they do tend to get used

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a lot.
Yeah, as far as the uh annual

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maintenance thing, um I can actually get
to that. Um I did not come prepared to

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be able to answer that that question,
but that's something that's very easy

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for me to to be able to pull.
>> Yeah, if you could pull those numbers,

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we can get them to Mr. Davis for you. I
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spent 30 plus years in the fire service,
as did the mayor. Uh a utility vehicle

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is basically a light air uh
refurbishment unit. It is used on every

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major incident. Goes on every houseire,
every hazmat incident, every TRT

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incident to provide support services. Uh
Phoenix operates, I believe, three of

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them. And how many do we have? One.
>> One.

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» I think we have one. So for one in a
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» Chief Camelly is coming forward and she
looks eager to speak. So I might I might

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get her the the mic. She might have some
more detail. But that's what the utility

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vehicle does. support for all of the the
frontline firefighters and suppression

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personnel uh who are doing the work.
>> Yes, Vice Mayor Council, I I do want to

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add to what Jason has said and to what
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really helps the firefighters be
sustainable on calls. So, in the

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summertime, they are used way more often
because we have to rotate crews much

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more often because of the heat. So,
every single fire scene where we have um

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our firefighters using their SCBAs, this
rehab truck is brought to the scene.

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Like Jason said, it provides lighting.
It provides refilling all the the

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bottles. It also has cooling systems,
too. So, in the summertime, it has these

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fans that blow cool air and also with
moisture to keep the firefighters cool

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from, you know, you know, experiencing
heat exhaustion, things like that. So,

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it does multiple things.
>> Yeah. So, it's very much useful.

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comments,
>> council member Taylor. And then

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» yeah, I just have a quick question. How
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the average lifespan?
>> It is a 2003, so it's almost what 24

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years old. It's got 132,000 miles on it.
Typically with the manufacturers, they

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only guarantee parts for like the 20
year mark. So we're kind of at that

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point with the build times and stuff
like that that it's time to time to

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replace it.
>> Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. That's

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what I was going.
>> Okay. Anyone else? Any other questions?

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No. All right. Thanks, Mary, Chief.
>> All right. So, item 4, use of a

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cooperative contract to purchase of E1.
Yeah. One E1. Let's be clear about that.

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One E1 Cyclone custom cab utility truck
replacement for the Mesa Fire and

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Medical Department. It is funded by the
2024 public safety bonds. Do I have a

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motion and a second?
I have a motion from council member

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Duff, a second from council member
Goforth. Please vote.

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Motion carries. Five with two absent.
All right. Item 4M,

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Kimberly Dailyy. Let me find that.

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Item 4M is a dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,

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office supplies, and related products.
That's for citywide departments. Hi.

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» Hi.
>> Three minutes.

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» All right. Good evening, vice mayor and
council members. My name is Kimberly

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Daly. I'm a resident of district 5 and a
precinct committeeman.

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I'm speaking today about the proposed
increase uh for the contract with WHIS

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business supplies and equipment. The
staff reports indicates that this is not

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new funding, but rather existing project
money being redirected through this

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contract for furniture purchases.
That distinction is important, but it

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also raises a broader governance
concern. How much spending authority is

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being concentrated in a single contract
without returning to council for

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competitive review?
Even when funds are already budgeted,

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the contract limit still matters. It
determines how much can be spent under a

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single vendor arrangement without
further council oversight.

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So the question is not just
administrative, it's about

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accountability.
First, at what point does an increase of

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this size require the city to return to
a competitive bidding process rather

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than simply expanding an existing
contract.

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The original procurement process is
particularly relevant here. Only two

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companies submitted proposals, and after
both were evaluated and interviewed, the

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city conducted a reverse auction to
allow the vendors to submit their best

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and final offers.
The city reported that this process

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reduced the overall bid amid amounts by
51%

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saving approximately $279,000.

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Given that we're now considering an
additional 6 million in contract

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authority, could conducting a similar
competitive process again provide the

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city with another opportunity to obtain
better pricing?

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Second, this is a 5-year contract and
we're already seeing a significant

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increase in year two just for projects
taking place in 2026.

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That raises a serious question. Are we
establishing a pattern where this

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contract will be repeatedly increased as
new projects come online over the life

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of the agreement?
If so, council should understand that

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now, not after multiple future
amendments. Finally, I think council

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should consider whether consolidating
large project specific purchases into a

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single contract reduces transparency
um around how individual capital

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projects are being executed. To be
clear, I'm not questioning the need for

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the projects themselves. My concern is
whether this structure preserves

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meaningful council oversight and
competitive procurement discipline at

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this scale, particularly when the
original competitive process um

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demonstrated that competitive bidding
produced a 51% reduction in the overall

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bid amounts.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. So, Mr. Butler,

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why don't we give a little brief
description about when we go out to bid

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versus when we expand a contract. And
>> this particular one is for furniture. Uh

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it's not a budget increase. As she
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which was great to hear.
>> Um and some of these stations, 205 is

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new,
not a new station, but it's being

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rebuilt,
>> completely rebuilt now.

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» 20 224 is a new station. Uh police
headquarters is a new station. So that's

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kind of the theme in here is that these
are new facilities are being rebuilt

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facilities.
>> Absolutely. So, when do we make those

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decisions about going out to bid versus
extending a contract like that in order

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to save costs?
>> Good afternoon, Vice Mayor, council

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members. Um, so, uh, just couple points
that you already covered. Um, this is

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not a budget increase. These, uh,
prices, these costs rather, um, were

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included in the projects that are
planned. Um secondly, um what we do is

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when we ask for a the council for a
contract dollar limit when we're

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awarding a contract, um we ask for our
baseline needs. So the $2 million that

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was originally awarded was our baseline
needs for furniture as well as office

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products and supplies. um when we have
projects, we come back to council and

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ask for the money for those projects.
So, we don't overinflate the other years

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that are part of that contract award. Um
in this case, um we did do uh

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competitive procurement of re reverse
auction for the office supplies and

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furniture, the baseline contract. Um,
but for these purchases, we also went

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out to the state contracts and we
compared the price that we could get

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using our contract with WIST to
contracts that the state has available

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to us, um, including one from WIST and
our price that we were able to obtain on

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this contract with WIS. with the
partnership we've built with this

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cooperative contract that we were the
lead agency on, we were able to get a

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slightly better price than uh we would
be able to get using the state

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contracts. So, while we didn't go out
for a singular contract for these uh

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additional purchases that we're looking
for in this year um for these projects,

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we did go out, we compared our existing
WIS contract with several of the state

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contracts that are available to us as an
agency of the state.

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» I don't think it's very often that we
beat the state co-op contract,

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» right? And I think that speaks volumes
to the creativity that um that Ed and

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his team have used that has awarded
them, you know, national recognition as

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far as how we go about procuring and uh
and doing our business services. So, um

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we we see that creative themes like
reverse auctions have generated larger

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cost savings than we can even get on the
competitive market. So, it's it's a

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great testament to the fact that we are
trying to squeeze, you know, every penny

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out of the tax taxpayer dollars that we
need to put into these facilities and

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and the uh furniture and other equipment
that goes into it.

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» As well too, this WIS contract that MESA
awarded is a is a what we call a save

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cooperative contract. So, it is
available to um it's between 150

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different agencies across the state.
We're an elite agency, but because we're

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awarding that contract and it's
available to that large group, we see

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very competitive pricing on that
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» Very good. Any questions from uh
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» I just I just want to make sure I
clarify and understand. So, basically,

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even though you did not go back out for
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» correct?
[clears throat] What is the time frame

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between the the original bid and the
request that we're getting today where

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you did go out to bid?
>> We're in year two. So, I believe the

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contract started in August of 2025.
>> Do you think that if you had gone out to

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bid that we would have saved even more
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» Um, so
>> or am I missing something on that?

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» I'm not exactly sure how to answer the
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baseline year. So that was a $2 million
award and and and dollar limit for that

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period. It's just this second year um
where we have these uh uh projects that

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are coming up and we did look at the uh
pricing available to us on the WHIS

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contract as well as those state contract
cooperative contracts that are available

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to us.
>> Yeah. And and Ed, I think you could say

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with some certainty with just one year
uh into this bidding prices have not

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gone down. I think anyone who's
purchased anything um understands the

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realities of of what some of the
economic impacts and tariffs and other

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things have had on on these prices. And
so um the the pricing being only a year

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into the contract should be very
competitive considering what's happening

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in the market right now. So we are we
thinking that it would actually

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potentially cost more had we gone to bid
>> now. Um

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» because of the increased cost of
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» The the contract is a percent discount
or addition to a list price. So the the

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prices are going to fluctuate. The
percent discount is what we base it on.

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Um everybody's kind of bidding on the
same price list. So the question is

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would we get a better percent discount
>> if we went out for bid and u because we

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have the large volume of 100 agencies
>> um on the existing contract it's

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unlikely.
>> Okay. Okay.

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» It's a lot of furniture. I know that
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» It is.
>> We're in the industry so it's a tricky

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question. Like I know the cost of
toilets has gone up, which is probably

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not something people think about very
often, but yeah, thank you. I appreciate

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you explaining it. And yeah, thank you,
>> Kim. Does that help?

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» Sorry, I was That's what I was going to
ask.

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» I want to make sure you're
>> That makes sense. Okay. Yeah.

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» Any additional questions?
>> Okay. And Ed, if uh if Miss Daly has any

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additional questions, are you available?
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» Very good. Thank you, sir.
>> All right. With that, on item 4M, I'll

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take a motion. Dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,

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office supplies, and related products
for citywide departments. I have a

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motion from council member Duff, a
second from council member Heredia.

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Please vote.
I have five yeses and two absent on

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that.
So, we're going to go to item 5B.

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which is adopting a notice of intent to
enter into a retail development and tax

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incentive agreement pursuant to
ARS9-500.11

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related to the development known as
Canon Beach Hotel.

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Noah, I should have started with you so
you can get up here, but you're in the

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front so we're good. Three minutes,
Noah.

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» Um, aloha, Vice Mayor, and to the rest
of the city council. Um, yeah, I really

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like this one. Um,
and if you've never been to the Canon

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Beach, [laughter] it's a great place.
It's better than the California beach. I

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I think so. Um, [laughter]
and um, yeah, this is great to have.

416
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:46,399
And, um, the Canon Beach Hotel will be a
great addition uh, to this Canon Beach.

417
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:49,760
So, thank you so much, M.
>> No, I got to tell you what you're the

418
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,143
lay that you're wearing fits into Canon
Beach very well. Right.

419
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,880
» You would be perfectly dressed for that.
[laughter]

420
00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:00,640
» Yes. Thanks.
>> Thank you. No, I appreciate it. All

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00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:05,600
right. So 5B is notice intent to enter
into a retail development tax incentive

422
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:11,359
agreement Canon Beach generally located
at southeast corner of Power Road and

423
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:14,720
Warner Road. I'll take a motion.
I have a motion from council member Go

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:20,000
forth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.

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00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:30,000
Margie Gomez,
you're going to be up next. Margie,

427
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,520
you're speaking on item 5C, approving
and authorizing the city manager to

428
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:38,320
enter into an intergovernmental
agreement with the city of Phoenix to

429
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:45,200
provide detention officer training uh to
city of Phoenix trainees.

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00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:53,599
Three minutes, ma'am.
>> Thank you. Thank you. I have looked into

431
00:34:49,359 --> 00:35:01,359
this intergovernmental agreement and to
provide the detention officer training

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00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:06,800
and I have seen that in section 4.3 it
says that some of this money could be

433
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:15,440
used for uh things that would cause a
lot of harm like batons and uh tasers.

434
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:23,359
And so I recommend that we do not
approve this um this resolution and that

435
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:32,800
we
add extra oversight and auditing to the

436
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:38,560
way that this um training is being
proposed.

437
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:46,240
And um also
a partially related is that ICE per the

438
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:50,800
AP news has proposed having
>> Margie I I got to stop you there. So

439
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,880
this doesn't there's no immigration
training in this and I think we can

440
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,000
confirm that.
>> So because there's no immigration

441
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,480
training
>> we can't have a discussion on ICE or

442
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:02,320
immigration.
>> Oh yes. Yes.

443
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:05,920
» But everything else you're talking about
was fine.

444
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:11,599
» Oh yes. Yes. I I am sorry about that. I
don't mean to talk about that part. But

445
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:17,359
uh basically I think that this is a
governance question, an accountability

446
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:25,760
question to our budget and that we need
to invest in education and to not

447
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:33,680
approve this training based on um the
contradiction of the um office training

448
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:37,280
compared to the training of how to use
batons and tra and tasers.

449
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:40,640
» Okay.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr.

450
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Butler. Do we want do we have anybody
can speak briefly on the training?

451
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:50,079
» Yeah, we do. We do have representatives
from Mesa Police Department that uh

452
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Assistant Chief Nesbbit is making her
way up and

453
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,290
» yeah, [clears throat] sitting all the
way in the back. Chief [laughter]

454
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,359
» and Chief, if Miss Gomez has any
questions after, would you be available

455
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,280
to answer them for her?
>> Vice Mayor Summers, absolutely. Thank

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00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,440
you.
>> Okay. Thank you for having us up here to

457
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:13,760
um address this training concern. I have
manager Christina Van Gordon here who

458
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:17,839
oversees our holding facility evidence
and property and she is prepared to

459
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:22,880
speak more specifically on the training
requirements that we um have in place

460
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:28,160
for our detention personnel and the
needs and the necessary needs for uh

461
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,200
deescalation and specific types of less
than lethal uses of force.

462
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:36,320
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Hi, thank you. Um the training that we

463
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:40,320
have basically mirrors what peace
officers receive from the Arizona Post.

464
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,560
We're just not sworn officers to teach
it. So they do everything from the same

465
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,760
curriculum that's received at the Mesa
Training Academy.

466
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,520
» So it utilizes all levels of force. So
it includes everything. So we need to

467
00:37:51,520 --> 00:38:00,000
train on the aspaton. We need to train
on the electronic uh connective device.

468
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:07,200
we need to train on um you know the way
we move folks in certain processes when

469
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:11,839
we have uh limited options, right? And
so these are just levels that we use to

470
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:17,200
address specific scenarios that are
based on all the same uh governance, you

471
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:21,280
know, statute as well as case law that
direct us to use those specific types of

472
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:26,480
force. And those are just tools that are
um in our tool belt, if you will. And I

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00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,960
would assume force is the last resort.
>> Correct. These are only used under our

474
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:34,240
policies and procedures that go along
with um when we would use force. That

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00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,280
was a reasonable.
>> And you spoke of deescalation. What's

476
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,119
that training like?
>> Uh they receive emotional intelligence,

477
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,240
deescalation, how to communicate with
people and how to talk people down

478
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,400
instead of using the force.
>> And is is that the bulk of the training

479
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,800
that they
>> That's a large portion of our training.

480
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,359
Yes.
>> Yeah.

481
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:55,359
» You can laugh all you like. That's fine.
Okay. Vice Mayor Summers, just to

482
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,880
reinforce the policies and procedures
that are in set in place are under the

483
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:04,160
Mesa Police Department. So they follow
all the same rules that are governed

484
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:09,280
through a post and our trainingmies.
>> Okay. Any questions or from council?

485
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:15,280
» Vice Mayor, I would I would just add to
I I appreciate uh Chief Nesbet giving

486
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:20,000
that explanation. Training is essential
for how our public safety officials do

487
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:25,280
their jobs day in and day out. It is a
tough business but proper training

488
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:30,720
ensures we have less incidents that lead
to concern uh both for the IND the

489
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:35,920
detained individual the other officers
and the other people in the detention

490
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,839
center uh itself and so um training is a
good thing more training is a good thing

491
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:45,040
and I'm I'm glad as a department we take
a lot of pride for both uh our detention

492
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,720
officers our sworn officers uh anyone
who is in a capacity like that we want

493
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:53,680
to make sure that they have the best
training in the nation and that h has

494
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:58,560
allowed us um our department to have an
exemplary record um when it comes to

495
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:04,320
that um in very challenging situations
that comes into uh policing. So I I

496
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:08,400
think more training is a good thing. So
>> Vice Mayor uh Summers and Council and

497
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:13,599
Mr. Mr. Butler, one last thing. You can
go to our transparency page and there we

498
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:17,760
have explicit information on our
encounters and use of force that goes

499
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,119
along with those encounters and the
different types of force that we're

500
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:27,520
using. So, I would strongly recommend uh
checking out the transparency page.

501
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:32,079
» Okay, any additional questions?
All right, seeing none, item 5C,

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00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,800
approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into an

503
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,240
intergovernmental agreement with the
city of Phoenix to provide detention

504
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,880
officer training to city of Phoenix
trainees as set forth uh the terms of

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00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:48,400
reimbursement to the city for such
training. Do I have a motion?

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00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,160
Motion from council member Heredia,
second from council member Duff. Please

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00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:57,920
vote.
Motion passes

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00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:03,839
50 with two absent.
All right, Miss Gomez, you had some uh

509
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:10,079
you're on the record to speak on 7A and
8A. So, you'll be up next, just so you

510
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:15,280
know. So, we'll move on to item 8A. Uh
sorry, my bad. 7A, which is a resolution

511
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:21,040
approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into a development

512
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:27,720
agreement and other arrangements for the
OIO project. Do any council members want

513
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,720
to speak on this item?

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00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:31,760
» Council member Duff,
>> I think I prefer to hear from the public

515
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:35,440
and then I'm
>> You want to hear from the public and

516
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:41,400
then we can Okay, Miss Mosley, we had
the one speaker. So, Miss Gomez,

517
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:50,000
and then we'll go back to council. Three
minutes. Ma'am,

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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:57,520
» thank you so much. So, um I noticed that
this the money taken for this project is

519
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:04,720
being taken from education, including
the community college. And so I think

520
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:11,680
that funding should not be uh taken from
education to subsidize this um this

521
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:20,240
venture. And so I would like for there
to be a lot more oversight into and

522
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:27,040
justification for the funding source and
that an alternative to taking money from

523
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:32,880
the community college fund be um
explored. and that this and that no

524
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:38,800
further action on this resolution is
taken until that happens

525
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:42,880
until we secure a funding source that
does not involve decreasing money from

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00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:47,599
education.
>> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Butler or

527
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,359
» Vice Mayor and Mayor or Vice Mayor and
Council. I think I'll I'll take this one

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00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:55,440
if they are it's all right. Uh so as
part of the uh any of our jeepletit

529
00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:01,599
deals, government property lease excise
tax deals, we we require that the

530
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:05,440
developer make the other um school
districts and all the other governmental

531
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,440
agencies whole by continuing to to to
pay the tax um that they would have paid

532
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,920
to those entities. And so the school
districts are made whole. And then at

533
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:17,760
the end of the the eight the eight years
they'll actually the taxes will then

534
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:22,079
obviously ramp up significantly because
they invested in and they made the the

535
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:26,480
improvements to the um to the property.
So during the during the during the

536
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,800
lease term they're they're made whole
and then afterwards then the the actual

537
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,520
tax amount uh amount will jump up
significantly. So, they still pay their

538
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:40,480
tax to to the state and then after the
8-year termination, there's a property

539
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:45,119
re assessment and then because of the
added value to that assessment, they

540
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,000
they make more money in their taxes. So,
they the education is is taken into

541
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,400
account in a formula and they do receive
tax dollars. So, we're not cutting them

542
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:59,040
off at all. Would that be accurate?
>> That that would be accurate. And and as

543
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,440
Mr. Smith said, that's essential to all
of our GPLET deals. make sure that those

544
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:09,119
taxing indust in um entities are made
whole. Uh and then uh this lot for

545
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:13,680
example has sat vacant for an extended
period of time. I'm sure maybe Mr. McVey

546
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:20,560
could tell us how long that has been. uh
um generating nominal uh taxes on that

547
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:26,160
property. But after this uh 8-year
abatement period, uh they will then uh

548
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,440
generate substantially more u revenue
for our educational institutions and

549
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:34,000
those other taxing industries than
exists today or if it maintained a a

550
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:38,240
vacant lot for the years to come.
>> Yeah. And I I appreciate your concern

551
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,319
because ma education is important to
this council. We have Mesa Counts on

552
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:47,280
College and a number of other programs
that we fund to ensure that access to

553
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:51,520
higher education and a properly trained
workforce is critical to our economic

554
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,440
development activities. So, I do
appreciate your comment. Do is there any

555
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:58,480
other council member would like to make
a comment?

556
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:03,839
» No. Council member Heredia.
>> No, I think uh Mr. Smith mentioned uh I

557
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:08,960
think with the the deals like this uh we
we ensure that our school districts are

558
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:14,880
made whole with which is Mesa Public
Schools uh the community college and

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00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:20,480
EVIT which are the three um and then I
know we've talked about this project

560
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:25,760
quite a bit uh in over the years um as
far as uh creating more opportunities

561
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:31,839
for people to live in the the area of
the Asian district and uh and along the

562
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:38,160
light rail. So, this is a a much needed
project with housing and some commercial

563
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:41,920
uh that will be added uh once it's uh
fully done. So,

564
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:48,079
» very good. Council member Duff.
>> Yeah. Uh the figures on the payment that

565
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:54,560
will be made to the school districts um
on the attachments for the agenda item

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00:45:50,960 --> 00:46:00,480
on page seven of the presentation and
page four of the council report spells

567
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:07,359
out the figures and to the entities that
they will be made whole. Um,

568
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:13,760
one of the reasons that we have the
griplet is to assist the de developer

569
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,000
and we have this was a transit uh, what
do you call it? Is it a um,

570
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:22,960
» like a park and ride?
>> Park and ride. And there's a lot of

571
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:28,800
changes that need to be made in order to
have this housing structure here and

572
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:34,240
protect accesses and pedestrian pathways
and reworking that land in order for it

573
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:39,599
to work. It's a huge expense for the
developer and the abatement does assist

574
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:45,520
them in taking care of those transit
adjustments as well as some other things

575
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:50,160
there during this time. So it we make it
a policy that there has to be a public

576
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:55,920
benefit when we offer the the giplets
the the um discounts, but we certainly

577
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,319
make sure um that our schools are always
taken care of.

578
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:03,599
» Thank you.
>> And Mr. Butler, it's safe to assume that

579
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:07,599
those agencies that are impacted by this
were part of our discussion. They're not

580
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,520
kept in the dark, right?
>> Uh Vice Mayor and Council. Yes. So we

581
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:15,359
actually we provide them notice um ahead
of time and so we've provided them um I

582
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,280
can't remember if it's 60 days or 30
days I can't remember the conversation

583
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,520
we actually give them notice.
>> Council member Taylor did you have

584
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,359
anything?
>> Marjorie I just wanted to say thank you.

585
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,800
I really appreciated listening to your
concern for our education institutions.

586
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:35,119
I worked in education for a while, so it
kind of hits near and dear to my heart.

587
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:39,920
And to encourage you to know that there
is funding that offsets the funding they

588
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:44,720
would otherwise lose. And then our hope,
of course, is that with the OVO, it will

589
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:49,200
generate so much more funding that we
will actually be able to give even more

590
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:52,560
money to our education institutions. So,
I just wanted to say thank you for your

591
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:58,079
time that you came up here to express
your concerns.

592
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:02,160
» Yeah. Thank you.
I also taught at ASU so I I know about

593
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,839
being in education. [clears throat]
>> Thank you, Dr. Summers. [laughter]

594
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,119
» All right, with that item 7A, approving
and authorizing the city manager to

595
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:17,520
enter into an intergovernmental
agreement for uh government property

596
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:24,000
lease excise tax agreement uh with Pride
Ventures LLC for the mixeduse project

597
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:28,319
known as OIO and the real property. I
have a motion. Council member Heredia,

598
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,720
second from Council Member Goforth.
Please vote.

599
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:37,599
Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.

600
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:43,359
All right, Miss Gomez,
you also wanted to speak on item 8A. So,

601
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:48,640
let me read some stuff here. Item 8 A is
to conduct a public hearing prior to the

602
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:53,440
release of the petition for signatures
for the proposed annexation case

603
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,920
25-00682
for the property located at the

604
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:04,559
southwest corner of East Williams Field
Road and State Route 24. I declare the

605
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:09,680
public hearing open. Miss Mosley, I
usually go to you, but I have the list

606
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:17,920
of speakers. So, with three minutes,
Miss Gomez. Uh thank you so much again.

607
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:26,079
So uh my concern here is that um the
owner Pacific Proving LLC

608
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:34,480
had also been noted as um
spending money on data centers. And

609
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:39,680
because of this concern of wanting to
have some transparency and

610
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:44,720
accountability for how all of the money
is being spent, I think that there

611
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:50,400
should be um some additional
requirements just to um make sure that

612
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:57,680
all of the money that is being spent is
going towards services and um that

613
00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:04,720
improve things for the people in Mesa.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Butler. So, this is

614
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,640
the first action of several. Is this a
data center?

615
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:10,640
» This is not a data center.
>> This is not a data center, I promise.

616
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,119
» And this is dealing with private
property that this property owner is

617
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:22,400
looking to annex into the city of Mesa.
Um, we we provide no test as what was

618
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:27,839
described uh by the speaker to allow
someone to exercise their right under

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00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:31,440
city code to u to annex into the city.
And Jim may want to add anything to

620
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:35,359
that, but
>> and also just uh vice mayor and counsel,

621
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,520
there's no money involved in this. This
is just a release of the petition. This

622
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:45,200
is a statutory, it's basically a notice
hearing that's from a statute that the

623
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:49,359
state passed uh decades ago to just make
sure that the public is aware of an

624
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,359
annexation of property. But there's no
money involved in this. It'll come, in

625
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:57,119
fact, you don't even vote after this. Um
you'll it'll come back to council in the

626
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:02,880
future for a vote. So this is just this
is a public notice um that was um that's

627
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:07,520
done in large part because of um
annexations in the um in other areas of

628
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,559
the of the state in which um they the
cities didn't provide notice because

629
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,640
they don't have an introduction type of
requirement that we have. So this is um

630
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:20,960
this is just a notice hearing
without saying too much. This is a

631
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:26,480
project we've been working on for quite
a while. So stay tuned. But your fears

632
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:31,119
will be set aside. I guarantee.
>> Okay. Thank you.

633
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,720
» All right. So, any any other persons
wanting to speak on this?

634
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,599
» No other requests.
>> No other requests. I declare the public

635
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:41,200
hearing closed. Uh the hearing was to
release a petition for signatures. No

636
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:45,280
other actions on this item. The item
will come back to council in the future

637
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:51,280
for consideration of the annexation. So,
you're there's the uh this second part

638
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:56,079
that Jim was referring to. Item 8B is to
conduct conduct a public hearing prior

639
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:01,240
to the release of petition for
signatures for the proposed annexation

640
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:01,240
case 25-00893

641
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:11,520
for the property property located at the
northeast corner of South Ellsworth Road

642
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:15,280
and East Williams Field Road. I declare
the public hearing open. Miss Mosley, do

643
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,280
we have any requests to speak on this
item?

644
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:19,520
» We have received no requests for this
one.

645
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:24,640
» No requests on this item. Any council
members want to address this item?

646
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,400
Okay, seeing none, I declare the public
hearing closed. Again, this item will

647
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:33,000
come back to council in the future for
consideration on the annexation.

648
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:42,880
Item nine, items from citizens present.
We have uh three items. Ms. Mosley, I

649
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,960
believe Jason Smithson.
>> Yes, Jason is first, followed by

650
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:52,520
» the first, followed by Noah. Noah,
you're on deck.

651
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Not again.

652
00:52:53,839 --> 00:53:00,800
» Vice Mayor, council members, on June
20th, I spoke before this council

653
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,839
regarding the IGA between the city of
Mesa and Mesa public schools concerning

654
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:10,640
the school resource officer program.
During those remarks, I stated that an

655
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:14,880
officer assigned to Mesa High School was
on the Brady list. At that time, I

656
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:19,440
believed it to be accurate based on
information I had received from sources

657
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:23,200
considered credible. I have since
learned that that statement was

658
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:28,000
incorrect. The officer in question is
not on the Brady list. Regardless of

659
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:32,160
where the information came from or why I
believed it to be accurate, I was the

660
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:37,280
person who stated at this podium and
said it publicly. That responsibility

661
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:41,520
belongs to me. I would never knowingly
make a false or defamatory statement

662
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:46,800
about anyone, particularly a member of
law enforcement. That officer deserves

663
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:51,280
the same fairness, accuracy, and respect
that I would expect if someone were

664
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:55,839
speaking publicly about me. Since
learning of my mistake, I have been in

665
00:53:52,960 --> 00:54:00,240
contact with Chief of Police Dan Butler
and Sergeant Gillet Gilllet, don't want

666
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,400
to butcher his name, and my words have
been shared with the officer involved.

667
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:09,359
But because I made that statement
publicly, I believe the correction and

668
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:13,359
apology should also be made publicly. So
to the officer, to the Mesa Police

669
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:18,079
Department, the council, and the Mesa
community, I am sincerely sorry.

670
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:21,920
Accountability and transparency means
more than just demanding it from other

671
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:27,359
people. It means accepting it yourself
when you get something wrong. I got this

672
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:31,280
wrong. I take responsibility for it and
I will be more diligent in verifying

673
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:36,319
information before making statements of
fact publicly. I can't undo what I said

674
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:40,559
on June 20th, but I can correct the
record, apologize without qualification,

675
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:45,040
learn from it, and do better moving
forward. Thank you.

676
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:50,240
» All right.
Thank you, uh, Noah. And then the final

677
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:54,720
speaker is Leanne. So, Leanne, you're on
deck.

678
00:54:52,000 --> 00:55:00,400
Um, aloha vice mayor and to the rest of
the city council. My name is Noah James

679
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:08,400
Markham and I'm from the great city of
uh Tempe. So I I want to give a huge

680
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:13,440
congratulations to Nick Willis. Um, wow.
A Mormon. Yes. That believes in good

681
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,720
values finally.
Also, I would like to talk about the

682
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:25,839
Superstition Springs Mall. Um, Vice
Mayor, uh, Scott, I I need more

683
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:30,079
renovation with this, more businesses
there.

684
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:33,359
Try to do something over there, more
apartments down there. We need to

685
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:37,359
remodel around there because there's so
many people that are coming that way

686
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,760
now. There's more building going to
Apache Junction. There's more building

687
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:45,359
going to other cities around there. Um,
so that would be a great hot spot for

688
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:52,880
people to go to instead of going to the
Chandler Mall all the time. Um also um

689
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:59,440
this is a big concern for me and as
people are trying to put down this data

690
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:07,040
center um the Tokyo data center
especially um we need to recognize the

691
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:12,720
people um the Japanese Americans that
suffered a lot in America and the

692
00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:18,880
Japanese concentration camps are not
very far away um from Mesa. Um but um I

693
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,200
I really think this would be a great
gift for the Japanese Americans and

694
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:28,640
people from Tokyo could come into this
business and um you can see what the

695
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:34,480
Japanese are smart of. They are very
smart. Um and I think we should build

696
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:41,599
this um in uh Mesa. Also, I would like
to talk about um Mayor Freeman. Mayor

697
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:46,559
Freeman, um I'm sorry, but um I'm just
happy that the last mayor before you,

698
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:51,680
John Giles from Mesa, is an independent
will be on the ticket with Katie Hos for

699
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:56,319
reelection, and we need him as the first
lieutenant governor. Also, I would like

700
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:01,440
to talk about Flock. Another thing I
really like flock, but there are people

701
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:06,400
that are making mistakes with this and
that is the police officers, whoever is

702
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:11,200
in charge of this, it is it's
embarrassing. Um, but I want to be safe,

703
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:16,559
too. Um, and I know Flack will do its
job. Um, but right now, I guess people

704
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:20,880
are not um they're against it right now.
So, [laughter] um, let's see. But,

705
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:25,720
mahalo, thank you so much.
>> All right. Thank you, Noah and Leanne.

706
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Hi Leanne, you have three minutes.
>> Thank you.

707
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:37,440
U Mesa currently has around 15 data
centers. They use or could use lithium

708
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:41,920
batteries which in the case they catch
on fire will need tons of water more

709
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:47,359
than just a regular house or warehouse
fire to put it out or even special

710
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:50,799
chemicals I believe. I don't know. Uh
after that it gets put out, someone

711
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:55,280
needs to keep an eye on the battery for
at least a few weeks to make sure it

712
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:59,920
doesn't catch on fire again. Instead of
using so instead of using water to put

713
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:04,720
out the fires, they could use it to cool
the systems, right? But that can take

714
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,640
around millions of gallons of water in
cooler states, might I add. So how much

715
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:14,960
do you think they will use here during a
115 degree day? We're already facing a

716
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:19,040
water shortage due to uh do we want to
lose more to these centers? If not

717
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:23,680
water, they could use diesel powered
generators to assist in cooling their

718
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:28,000
systems down, ignoring the air pollution
on that aspect alone. They could tap

719
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,160
into the electric grid to not only
power, but to cool their systems down.

720
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:36,960
The sounds from both of these choices
are awful and can be heard for miles.

721
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,559
This sound will scare away not only
wildlife but the monarch butterflies

722
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:45,520
that Mayor Freeman signed a national
wildlife pledge to help increase their

723
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:49,200
population. If he can break this pledge,
this promise by introducing things that

724
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:55,359
will disrupt their migration patterns
and dwindle their numbers even more,

725
00:58:51,440 --> 00:59:00,079
then what other promises will he break?
The sound inside of these centers will

726
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,839
drive down property value or if built
near businesses could drive away

727
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:08,160
potential customers or new businesses
due to the sound pollution. Just like we

728
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:11,200
heard during the Falcon Field landing
fee meeting where a business owner

729
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,839
complained that their numbers dropped
due to planes flying close enough to

730
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:19,920
hear. And what about the people who
wanted to have a quiet morning on their

731
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:24,000
porch? Plane noises disappear at least,
but these centers will always be there

732
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:27,680
humming away more loud and more annoying
than the planes.

733
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,599
These centers will cause strains on the
electric grid. And while increasing our

734
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:36,799
electric bills will cause rolling
blackouts to prevent a full shutdown. If

735
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:41,280
it does get overwhelmed or one small
thing, one small mistake happens, a

736
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:47,680
total blackout can occur. Just like in
New York, July 13th and the 14th, 1977,

737
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:53,839
which resulted in four deaths and 550
injuries, or the Northeast blackout on

738
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:58,640
August 4th, which in 2003, which lasted
in some areas 2 hours and others up to 4

739
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:06,160
days, and that resulted in around 100
deaths. Now, imagine that happening here

740
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:09,599
when those days are recorded uh 115°.
>> You have about 20 seconds.

741
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:14,400
» Thank you. Uh, we don't need any more
data centers, AI centers, or the

742
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:18,799
extension on the NT center. I would
sooner trust nuclear power plants than

743
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:23,280
these centers.
If anyone if anyone votes yes on these

744
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:27,680
centers, we will vote no on your next
election or have you recalled like those

745
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:32,071
before. Thank you.
Made it. All right. [applause]

746
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:41,280
I assume the applause is because this
was such a great meeting, but

747
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:45,200
So with that, that was our last speaker.
That's all the items we have for this

748
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,160
meeting. There is a motion to adjurnn. I
have a motion from council member Go

749
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:55,720
forth, a second from council member
Taylor. All in favor, please say I. I.

750
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,720
» Any opposed? We are adjourned.

751
01:01:15,902 --> 01:01:17,922
» [music]