[0:01] Good afternoon. Welcome to the Mesa City
Council meeting for August 17, 2026.
[0:07] Mayor Freeman is out of town and is
excused as is council member Adams who
[0:12] is not able to attend. Uh we'll start
our meeting uh with a moment of silence
[0:19] uh followed by the pledge of allegiance
which will be given by Jackson Jones
[0:24] from Troop 54. Would you all stand for a
moment of silence, please?
[0:43] Thank you, Jackson.
[0:50] Please join me in the pledge of
allegiance.
[0:54] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[1:00] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:06] justice for all.
>> Well done. Thank you.
[1:14] All right. Before we go on to the
consent agenda, Miss Mosley, could you
[1:18] say the names of the three people that
will be speaking under the items from
[1:22] citizens present?
>> Sure. After running the randomizer, I
[1:25] have listed number one will be Jason
Smithson, number two will be Noah James
[1:30] Markham, and number three will be be
Leanne McKelby.
[1:34] » Leanne
>> McKelby
[1:43] and Jason Smithson, right? I didn't see
him out there, but I'm sure he's here.
[1:49] All right.
[1:53] So, why don't we do this? We're going to
go on to awards and recognition because
[1:57] I think we have one, Mr. Butler.
>> Okay, this one might be kind of exciting
[2:03] for uh all of us uh especially me. So,
the next item in the agenda is to
[2:08] recognize recent awards and
announcements.
[2:11] And tonight I am very excited to sh to
share an extraordinary accomplishment by
[2:17] our library department. The Mesa Gateway
Library, our newest branch library,
[2:23] first in over 30 years, received a 2026
[2:29] James Bennett Public Library of the Year
award. And this is a global recognition
[2:35] and something for all of us to be proud
of. It's seems like just yesterday in
[2:39] December that this library opened in
such an unique space. Uh one of the best
[2:44] libraries in
>> in Mesa, don't you think?
[2:49] » My colleague over here is a little
jealous.
[2:52] » Uh you know, as council member
representing the district, obviously you
[2:56] can tell uh there there's a little
rivalry going on, but it's it's
[3:01] something truly uh unbelievable. For 20
years really, we've been asking in
[3:06] Southeast Mesa for a library and
probably for you and your department and
[3:11] everybody involved in this to knock it
on out of the ballpark the way you did
[3:16] uh to to receive this kind of
recognition is is really something
[3:21] special. Gateway was made possible u by
the support of voters. This was part of
[3:27] a GI bond. We tell you all the time,
what city do you want to live in? Well,
[3:33] these are your opportunities to get
involved and for those folks who
[3:36] supported the library and continue to do
so, uh we extend our grateful
[3:42] appreciation because this is the kind of
community asset that that we will be
[3:48] able to appreciate for so many decades
to come. This honor also reflects the
[3:54] leadership, collaboration, and
innovative thinking of our library
[3:58] staff, our volunteers. Thank you so much
to all of our volunteers and the board
[4:03] members of the library who donate their
time uh to make these these a reality.
[4:12] Their work has made Mesa Libraries truly
a world-class resource for families
[4:15] throughout our city. Paulie Bennett, our
library director over here in the front
[4:20] row and members of her team were on hand
to accept the award on Mesa's behalf.
[4:25] I'd like to invite Paulie to the podium
to tell us more about that experience.
[4:30] After that, we'll join her down below
for a group photo. Paulie,
[4:36] good evening, Vice Mayor and Council.
Um, it's an honor to be here tonight to
[4:43] uh receive this recognition for the
Gateway Library. It's still a little bit
[4:47] surreal having accepted this um on
behalf of Mesa with libraries around the
[4:53] world recognizing the design. So, I'm
very proud proud for um being a part of
[4:58] team Mesa and for what we've been able
to offer for our residents. Um the award
[5:03] recognizes innovative and thoughtful
community centered design and vice mayor
[5:10] as you mentioned that's something that
our residents really u took to heart
[5:14] when we started asking questions about
what what do you dream of when you think
[5:18] of a new library in Mesa and from the
beginning our vision was we really
[5:22] wanted to exceed the expectations for
our community of what a traditional
[5:27] library might offer. We wanted it to be
more of a transformational experience
[5:32] and that was from um just the way that
we collaborated with our community
[5:39] partners with all of our city
stakeholders. We really wanted to think
[5:43] outside of the box and that was
recognized by LAA and the James Bennett
[5:47] jury. One of the things that I kept
hearing from jury members and some of
[5:52] the libraries that were recognized was
how um well beautiful and stunning the
[5:58] library facility is itself, but how it
encouraged those connections in the
[6:03] community, connections with one another,
connections to learning and curiosity,
[6:08] and how it integrated so nicely into the
setting and really became the heart of
[6:12] the community. And we're already seeing
the impact for the city's investment.
[6:16] We've seen over 170,000 people come
through Gateway's door since we opened
[6:22] in December and that's about 31% more
in-house visitors across our library
[6:30] system in this past year. So, we've
really had a fa fantastic turnout. We've
[6:36] had such a warm reception from our
community and it has created this sense
[6:40] of belonging and sense of place. Another
um thing I do want to mention as far as
[6:45] how it's being used is we've seen over
48% of program attendance increase
[6:51] across our library system. And that
really emphasizes how much of a
[6:55] community hub that the library is. And
lastly, beyond the numbers, we're
[7:00] hearing how it's being used and how much
people enjoy using this new facility.
[7:04] Whether it's daily, we have kids who are
asking their parents to come every day
[7:08] after school, which is a feat in and of
itself. And also, we have people who
[7:14] just make it part of their routine. Um,
we have new community partnerships that
[7:20] are being formed because of this space.
It's allowed us that opportunity. And of
[7:24] course, we're getting attention in Mesa
and now beyond Mesa. So, it's really a
[7:29] proud moment for us. And even more so,
it's great to be able to shine a light
[7:33] on the great things that are happening
in Mesa. Further shine a light. We're
[7:38] proud of what we've been able to do
working with our residents and our
[7:42] library staff and our city partners,
city council, but really it's a platform
[7:47] to show what a great city Mesa is to
visit, live in, and work in. So, we
[7:52] appreciate it. Thank you.
>> And it has such unique features as maker
[7:56] spaces, not just books. 21st century
library has maker spaces. It has a
[8:02] sensory room uh room for uh our folks
with autism. So, we're sensitive to
[8:09] that. Uh the garden that's out there and
lessons in water use. So, it's really
[8:15] taken a library from what what we
thought about you got to be quiet in a
[8:20] library to yeah, let's go ahead and
create something that's really new and
[8:24] unique. So, I really appreciate that
forward thinking.
[8:26] » Thank you. We were hoping that we
created the library of the future and
[8:30] Romy the robot is actually doing more
now. So next time you come to visit
[8:34] Romy, he has a few more things he can
do. Few more work or security or
[8:40] » not yet.
>> That thing creeps me out. All right, why
[8:44] don't we take a picture, Mr. City
Manager?
[9:08] Did you notice?
>> I did. [laughter]
[9:19] Squish a little bit.
[9:34] » Jody's excited.
[9:42] » [applause]
[10:03] » All right. Now, on to the consent
agenda. Mr. Christopher, let's see if
[10:07] you can top that.
We do have a few items off of consent.
[10:14] Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks
like 4 E.
[10:17] » Yep.
>> 4 H.
[10:19] » Yep.
>> 4 M,
[10:23] » 5B,
and 5 C. Is that what you have?
[10:26] » That's what I've got.
>> Okay. And then there for a speaker,
[10:29] there's also 7 A and 8A, but those are
not on consent.
[10:33] » Mr. Christopher.
>> Good evening, Vice Mayor, council
[10:35] members. These are the items on the
consent agenda. All items listed with an
[10:38] asterisk will be considered as a group
by the city council and will be enacted
[10:42] with one motion. There will be no
separate discussion unless a council
[10:44] member or citizen request in which event
the item will be removed from the
[10:47] consent agenda and considered as a
separate item. Item two, approval of
[10:52] minutes of previous meetings is written.
Item 3 A, act on liquor license
[10:55] application for the drink all 235 North
Country Club Drive. Item 3 B, act on
[11:00] liquor license application for Church
Craft Coffee and Cocktails, 127 West
[11:04] Pepper Place. Item 3 C, act on liquor
license for Lati Latiandida,
[11:10] Colombana, 456 West Main Street. Item 3
D, act on a liquor license application
[11:15] for Tempo by Hilton Galloway Park and
Homewood Suites, 5057 South Power Road.
[11:20] Item 3 E, act on liquor license
application for Crazy Cajun Seafood in
[11:24] Habachi, 655 East Southern Avenue. Item
3 F, act on liquor license application
[11:29] for Lenny's Craft Burger, 4525 South
Power Road. Item 4 A, approving
[11:34] three-year term contract with two-year
renewal options for electric substation
[11:37] infrastructure work for the energy
resources department. Item 4 B,
[11:41] approving three-year term contract with
two-year renewal options for ball valves
[11:44] for the materials and supply warehouse
for the energy resources department.
[11:47] Item 4 C, approving three-year term
contract with two-year renewal options
[11:51] for gas meters for the materials and
supply warehouse for the energy
[11:54] resources department. Item 4 D,
approving dollar limit increase to the
[11:58] cooperative use term contract for
industrial plumbing supplies for the
[12:01] water resources and facilities
management departments. Item 4 E has
[12:05] been removed from the consent agenda.
Item 4F, approving three-year term
[12:09] contract with two-year renewal options
for roofing, repair, and installation
[12:12] services for the facilities management
department. Item 4G, approving contract
[12:16] to purchase one liquid chromatograph
tandem mass spectrometry instrument for
[12:20] the public safety support department.
This is funded by the governor's office
[12:23] of highway safety. Item 4H has been
removed from the consent agenda. Item 4
[12:28] I, approving three-year term contract
with two-year renewal options for
[12:31] Striker Lewis 3 mechanical CPR devices
for the Mesa Fire and Medical
[12:36] Department. This is partially funded by
a FEMA AFG grant. Item 4J, approving
[12:41] 10-month use of a cooperative term
contract with a one-year renewal option
[12:44] for the purchase of fire station alert
equipment, software, and support for the
[12:48] Department of Innovation and Technology
and the Mesa Fire Medical Department.
[12:51] Item 4K, approving dollar limit increase
to the state of Arizona cooperative
[12:55] contract for capital expenditure
agreement for Motorola Systems upgrade 2
[12:59] for the Topaz Regional Wireless
Cooperative as requested by the
[13:02] Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4L, approving three-year term
[13:06] contract for Tungsten Total Agility
Document Scanning Platform for the
[13:10] Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4 M's been removed from the consent
[13:15] agenda. Item 5A, approving resolution to
enter into an agreement for management
[13:18] and operations services with Legends
Global to manage, operate, and market
[13:23] the Mesa Convention Center and Mesa
Amphitheater. Items 5B and 5C have been
[13:28] removed from the consent agenda. Item
5D, approving a resolution enter into an
[13:32] intergovernmental agreement with the
regional public transportation authority
[13:35] for design and construction management
of improvements to existing bus stops at
[13:39] various locations in Mesa. part of the
projects funded by a federal grant and
[13:43] by transit advertising revenue. Item 6A,
introduction of ordinance amending
[13:47] sections 10-4-2 and 10-4-3 of the Mesa
City Code to establish a continuous
[13:53] speed limit of 45 miles per hour on
Ellsworth Road from the north city
[13:57] limits to the south city limits by
modifying the Ellsworth Road speed limit
[14:01] between Elliot Road and the South City
limit. Vice Mayor and council members,
[14:05] these are the items on the consent
agenda.
[14:09] » Thank you, Mr. Christopher. You made it
competitive
[14:13] for Do we have any other items to be
removed?
[14:16] » No other items.
>> Any council have any comments,
[14:20] questions? All right. With that, I do
have a a statement from the mayor on
[14:25] item 5A that he would like read into the
record. So, I'll do that. Uh the mayor's
[14:31] statements. So item 5A, so everyone
knows, a resolution approving and
[14:36] authorizing the city manager to enter
into an agreement for management and
[14:41] operations with Legends Global for the
Convention Center uh to manage, operate,
[14:46] market Mesa Convention Center and
Amphitheater. That is on the consent
[14:50] agenda. And the mayor's statement is,
"I'm sorry I could not be at tonight's
[14:53] council meeting, but I want to express
my appreciation to everyone who has
[14:57] helped bring us to this important moment
for the Mesa Convention Center and
[15:02] Amphitheater. Since taking office of
mayor, I have been passionate about
[15:07] finding a path forward for these
important community assets. Early on, I
[15:12] began conversations with the city
manager, Scott Butler, about how we
[15:17] could reinvest in these facilities,
strengthen their future, and explore a
[15:22] public private partnership that could
bring new opportunities to downtown Mesa
[15:26] while protecting the interests of our
taxpayers. Tonight's action represents
[15:31] an important step toward that vision.
The Mesa Amphitheater is one of our
[15:36] city's jewels and together with the
convention center. It has been a
[15:40] tremendous potential. I believe this new
direction will help us build on that
[15:45] legacy, bring renewed energy and
investment to these facilities and
[15:50] contribute
to an even stronger and more vibrant
[15:54] downtown Mesa. I also want to thank the
employees of the convention center and
[15:59] amphitheater for their service and
dedication to our community. I'm excited
[16:03] about what lies ahead and confident in
the future of these important Mesa
[16:08] destinations. Thank you, Mayor Mark
Freeman. So, with that, is there a
[16:16] motion on the consent agenda?
Have a motion from council member
[16:22] Goforth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.
[16:27] Motion passes
five to nothing with the mayor and
[16:31] council member uh Adams excused.
All right.
[16:40] So, let's go on.
[16:46] [sighs]
Let's go to the items that are uh not on
[16:49] the consent agenda. I guess item 4E.
Noah, I think you pulled this one. Let
[16:56] me read it.
Yeah. Is a 15-month use of a cooperative
[17:01] term contract with one one-year renewal
option for facility maintenance, repair,
[17:07] and operations uh for water resources
department. Noah, you have three.
[17:12] » Um aloha, vice mayor, and to the rest of
the city council. Um, I really do like
[17:17] this one and I haven't been here in a
while. So, um, because I've been
[17:20] fighting people that have been not even
talking about water. They've been
[17:24] talking about free Palestine instead.
But, um, yeah. So, let's just talk about
[17:29] this. This is great. We need the water
here in um, Arizona and this is a very
[17:35] big concern and so I'm so thankful for
the people that are taking care of our
[17:39] water in Mesa and Arizona. So, thank
you. Please approve this. Thank you.
[17:44] » All right. Thank you, Noah.
With that, any council members wish to
[17:48] speak on this item? I'll take a motion
on item 4E, 15month use of a cooperative
[17:56] term contract. I have a motion from
council member Taylor, a second from
[18:01] council member Duff. Please vote.
[18:05] Five eyes, no A's, with two absent. All
right. What was next? 4 H.
[18:12] Mr. Davis 4
was the use of a cooperative contract
[18:17] for the purchase of an E1 Cyclone custom
cab utility truck replacement for the
[18:22] fire and medical department.
Good evening, honorable vice mayor and
[18:28] city council members. I have a couple of
questions about this issue. Number one
[18:32] is how often is this particular unit
used and what is the current annual
[18:39] costs of maintenance of this equipment?
Okay,
[18:44] » just those two.
>> Just those two questions.
[18:46] » Okay, great. We have someone from the
fire department, Mr. Butler.
[18:50] » We do. We have staff from M fire and
medical that can speak to this that are
[18:55] making Jason's making his way up right
now. Yeah.
[18:58] » And perhaps we'll start with a very
brief overview of what this utility
[19:01] truck does on a fire ground.
[19:12] Vice Mayor, council members, the utility
truck is used for a lot of the bigger
[19:17] major scenes. It provides light and air
to be able to refill SCBAs for a
[19:23] continuous scene. Um, that's
predominantly what that thing's used
[19:26] for. In in terms of frequency, um, I I
don't really have any numbers um in
[19:34] regards on how it is, but I do know in
the summertime they do tend to get used
[19:38] a lot.
Yeah, as far as the uh annual
[19:42] maintenance thing, um I can actually get
to that. Um I did not come prepared to
[19:47] be able to answer that that question,
but that's something that's very easy
[19:51] for me to to be able to pull.
>> Yeah, if you could pull those numbers,
[19:54] we can get them to Mr. Davis for you. I
can tell you from a personal level, I've
[19:58] spent 30 plus years in the fire service,
as did the mayor. Uh a utility vehicle
[20:04] is basically a light air uh
refurbishment unit. It is used on every
[20:10] major incident. Goes on every houseire,
every hazmat incident, every TRT
[20:15] incident to provide support services. Uh
Phoenix operates, I believe, three of
[20:20] them. And how many do we have? One.
>> One.
[20:22] » I think we have one. So for one in a
city of a half million. So
[20:28] » Chief Camelly is coming forward and she
looks eager to speak. So I might I might
[20:32] get her the the mic. She might have some
more detail. But that's what the utility
[20:36] vehicle does. support for all of the the
frontline firefighters and suppression
[20:41] personnel uh who are doing the work.
>> Yes, Vice Mayor Council, I I do want to
[20:46] add to what Jason has said and to what
you have said. This utility vehicle
[20:50] really helps the firefighters be
sustainable on calls. So, in the
[20:53] summertime, they are used way more often
because we have to rotate crews much
[20:57] more often because of the heat. So,
every single fire scene where we have um
[21:02] our firefighters using their SCBAs, this
rehab truck is brought to the scene.
[21:07] Like Jason said, it provides lighting.
It provides refilling all the the
[21:11] bottles. It also has cooling systems,
too. So, in the summertime, it has these
[21:14] fans that blow cool air and also with
moisture to keep the firefighters cool
[21:19] from, you know, you know, experiencing
heat exhaustion, things like that. So,
[21:24] it does multiple things.
>> Yeah. So, it's very much useful.
[21:27] comments,
>> council member Taylor. And then
[21:30] » yeah, I just have a quick question. How
how old is the current unit and what is
[21:34] the average lifespan?
>> It is a 2003, so it's almost what 24
[21:39] years old. It's got 132,000 miles on it.
Typically with the manufacturers, they
[21:44] only guarantee parts for like the 20
year mark. So we're kind of at that
[21:49] point with the build times and stuff
like that that it's time to time to
[21:53] replace it.
>> Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. That's
[21:57] what I was going.
>> Okay. Anyone else? Any other questions?
[22:01] No. All right. Thanks, Mary, Chief.
>> All right. So, item 4, use of a
[22:09] cooperative contract to purchase of E1.
Yeah. One E1. Let's be clear about that.
[22:15] One E1 Cyclone custom cab utility truck
replacement for the Mesa Fire and
[22:21] Medical Department. It is funded by the
2024 public safety bonds. Do I have a
[22:26] motion and a second?
I have a motion from council member
[22:30] Duff, a second from council member
Goforth. Please vote.
[22:34] Motion carries. Five with two absent.
All right. Item 4M,
[22:42] Kimberly Dailyy. Let me find that.
[22:48] Item 4M is a dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,
[22:53] office supplies, and related products.
That's for citywide departments. Hi.
[22:58] » Hi.
>> Three minutes.
[23:00] » All right. Good evening, vice mayor and
council members. My name is Kimberly
[23:04] Daly. I'm a resident of district 5 and a
precinct committeeman.
[23:10] I'm speaking today about the proposed
increase uh for the contract with WHIS
[23:15] business supplies and equipment. The
staff reports indicates that this is not
[23:20] new funding, but rather existing project
money being redirected through this
[23:25] contract for furniture purchases.
That distinction is important, but it
[23:31] also raises a broader governance
concern. How much spending authority is
[23:35] being concentrated in a single contract
without returning to council for
[23:40] competitive review?
Even when funds are already budgeted,
[23:45] the contract limit still matters. It
determines how much can be spent under a
[23:51] single vendor arrangement without
further council oversight.
[23:56] So the question is not just
administrative, it's about
[23:59] accountability.
First, at what point does an increase of
[24:04] this size require the city to return to
a competitive bidding process rather
[24:09] than simply expanding an existing
contract.
[24:14] The original procurement process is
particularly relevant here. Only two
[24:19] companies submitted proposals, and after
both were evaluated and interviewed, the
[24:24] city conducted a reverse auction to
allow the vendors to submit their best
[24:29] and final offers.
The city reported that this process
[24:33] reduced the overall bid amid amounts by
51%
[24:37] saving approximately $279,000.
[24:42] Given that we're now considering an
additional 6 million in contract
[24:46] authority, could conducting a similar
competitive process again provide the
[24:52] city with another opportunity to obtain
better pricing?
[24:56] Second, this is a 5-year contract and
we're already seeing a significant
[25:01] increase in year two just for projects
taking place in 2026.
[25:07] That raises a serious question. Are we
establishing a pattern where this
[25:12] contract will be repeatedly increased as
new projects come online over the life
[25:16] of the agreement?
If so, council should understand that
[25:20] now, not after multiple future
amendments. Finally, I think council
[25:24] should consider whether consolidating
large project specific purchases into a
[25:30] single contract reduces transparency
um around how individual capital
[25:36] projects are being executed. To be
clear, I'm not questioning the need for
[25:40] the projects themselves. My concern is
whether this structure preserves
[25:45] meaningful council oversight and
competitive procurement discipline at
[25:50] this scale, particularly when the
original competitive process um
[25:55] demonstrated that competitive bidding
produced a 51% reduction in the overall
[26:01] bid amounts.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. So, Mr. Butler,
[26:04] why don't we give a little brief
description about when we go out to bid
[26:09] versus when we expand a contract. And
>> this particular one is for furniture. Uh
[26:16] it's not a budget increase. As she
noted, there was some cost savings,
[26:20] which was great to hear.
>> Um and some of these stations, 205 is
[26:24] new,
not a new station, but it's being
[26:27] rebuilt,
>> completely rebuilt now.
[26:29] » 20 224 is a new station. Uh police
headquarters is a new station. So that's
[26:35] kind of the theme in here is that these
are new facilities are being rebuilt
[26:39] facilities.
>> Absolutely. So, when do we make those
[26:41] decisions about going out to bid versus
extending a contract like that in order
[26:47] to save costs?
>> Good afternoon, Vice Mayor, council
[26:50] members. Um, so, uh, just couple points
that you already covered. Um, this is
[26:56] not a budget increase. These, uh,
prices, these costs rather, um, were
[27:00] included in the projects that are
planned. Um secondly, um what we do is
[27:06] when we ask for a the council for a
contract dollar limit when we're
[27:10] awarding a contract, um we ask for our
baseline needs. So the $2 million that
[27:16] was originally awarded was our baseline
needs for furniture as well as office
[27:20] products and supplies. um when we have
projects, we come back to council and
[27:26] ask for the money for those projects.
So, we don't overinflate the other years
[27:30] that are part of that contract award. Um
in this case, um we did do uh
[27:36] competitive procurement of re reverse
auction for the office supplies and
[27:41] furniture, the baseline contract. Um,
but for these purchases, we also went
[27:45] out to the state contracts and we
compared the price that we could get
[27:50] using our contract with WIST to
contracts that the state has available
[27:55] to us, um, including one from WIST and
our price that we were able to obtain on
[28:01] this contract with WIS. with the
partnership we've built with this
[28:06] cooperative contract that we were the
lead agency on, we were able to get a
[28:11] slightly better price than uh we would
be able to get using the state
[28:15] contracts. So, while we didn't go out
for a singular contract for these uh
[28:20] additional purchases that we're looking
for in this year um for these projects,
[28:25] we did go out, we compared our existing
WIS contract with several of the state
[28:31] contracts that are available to us as an
agency of the state.
[28:36] » I don't think it's very often that we
beat the state co-op contract,
[28:40] » right? And I think that speaks volumes
to the creativity that um that Ed and
[28:45] his team have used that has awarded
them, you know, national recognition as
[28:50] far as how we go about procuring and uh
and doing our business services. So, um
[28:56] we we see that creative themes like
reverse auctions have generated larger
[29:01] cost savings than we can even get on the
competitive market. So, it's it's a
[29:05] great testament to the fact that we are
trying to squeeze, you know, every penny
[29:09] out of the tax taxpayer dollars that we
need to put into these facilities and
[29:13] and the uh furniture and other equipment
that goes into it.
[29:16] » As well too, this WIS contract that MESA
awarded is a is a what we call a save
[29:22] cooperative contract. So, it is
available to um it's between 150
[29:28] different agencies across the state.
We're an elite agency, but because we're
[29:33] awarding that contract and it's
available to that large group, we see
[29:37] very competitive pricing on that
contract.
[29:40] » Very good. Any questions from uh
council?
[29:44] » I just I just want to make sure I
clarify and understand. So, basically,
[29:48] even though you did not go back out for
bid for the $6 million,
[29:52] » correct?
[clears throat] What is the time frame
[29:55] between the the original bid and the
request that we're getting today where
[29:59] you did go out to bid?
>> We're in year two. So, I believe the
[30:02] contract started in August of 2025.
>> Do you think that if you had gone out to
[30:08] bid that we would have saved even more
money within that two-year time frame?
[30:12] » Um, so
>> or am I missing something on that?
[30:16] » I'm not exactly sure how to answer the
question. The the year one was a
[30:21] baseline year. So that was a $2 million
award and and and dollar limit for that
[30:27] period. It's just this second year um
where we have these uh uh projects that
[30:33] are coming up and we did look at the uh
pricing available to us on the WHIS
[30:38] contract as well as those state contract
cooperative contracts that are available
[30:43] to us.
>> Yeah. And and Ed, I think you could say
[30:45] with some certainty with just one year
uh into this bidding prices have not
[30:49] gone down. I think anyone who's
purchased anything um understands the
[30:55] realities of of what some of the
economic impacts and tariffs and other
[30:59] things have had on on these prices. And
so um the the pricing being only a year
[31:05] into the contract should be very
competitive considering what's happening
[31:09] in the market right now. So we are we
thinking that it would actually
[31:13] potentially cost more had we gone to bid
>> now. Um
[31:18] » because of the increased cost of
products.
[31:20] » The the contract is a percent discount
or addition to a list price. So the the
[31:27] prices are going to fluctuate. The
percent discount is what we base it on.
[31:31] Um everybody's kind of bidding on the
same price list. So the question is
[31:36] would we get a better percent discount
>> if we went out for bid and u because we
[31:42] have the large volume of 100 agencies
>> um on the existing contract it's
[31:48] unlikely.
>> Okay. Okay.
[31:51] » It's a lot of furniture. I know that
because we have so many locations.
[31:55] » It is.
>> We're in the industry so it's a tricky
[31:58] question. Like I know the cost of
toilets has gone up, which is probably
[32:02] not something people think about very
often, but yeah, thank you. I appreciate
[32:06] you explaining it. And yeah, thank you,
>> Kim. Does that help?
[32:08] » Sorry, I was That's what I was going to
ask.
[32:11] » I want to make sure you're
>> That makes sense. Okay. Yeah.
[32:15] » Any additional questions?
>> Okay. And Ed, if uh if Miss Daly has any
[32:20] additional questions, are you available?
Okay.
[32:24] » Very good. Thank you, sir.
>> All right. With that, on item 4M, I'll
[32:29] take a motion. Dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,
[32:33] office supplies, and related products
for citywide departments. I have a
[32:38] motion from council member Duff, a
second from council member Heredia.
[32:44] Please vote.
I have five yeses and two absent on
[32:51] that.
So, we're going to go to item 5B.
[32:57] which is adopting a notice of intent to
enter into a retail development and tax
[33:01] incentive agreement pursuant to
ARS9-500.11
[33:06] related to the development known as
Canon Beach Hotel.
[33:11] Noah, I should have started with you so
you can get up here, but you're in the
[33:16] front so we're good. Three minutes,
Noah.
[33:18] » Um, aloha, Vice Mayor, and to the rest
of the city council. Um, yeah, I really
[33:24] like this one. Um,
and if you've never been to the Canon
[33:28] Beach, [laughter] it's a great place.
It's better than the California beach. I
[33:33] I think so. Um, [laughter]
and um, yeah, this is great to have.
[33:38] And, um, the Canon Beach Hotel will be a
great addition uh, to this Canon Beach.
[33:45] So, thank you so much, M.
>> No, I got to tell you what you're the
[33:48] lay that you're wearing fits into Canon
Beach very well. Right.
[33:51] » You would be perfectly dressed for that.
[laughter]
[33:53] » Yes. Thanks.
>> Thank you. No, I appreciate it. All
[33:57] right. So 5B is notice intent to enter
into a retail development tax incentive
[34:03] agreement Canon Beach generally located
at southeast corner of Power Road and
[34:07] Warner Road. I'll take a motion.
I have a motion from council member Go
[34:13] forth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.
[34:17] Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.
[34:23] Margie Gomez,
you're going to be up next. Margie,
[34:28] you're speaking on item 5C, approving
and authorizing the city manager to
[34:32] enter into an intergovernmental
agreement with the city of Phoenix to
[34:35] provide detention officer training uh to
city of Phoenix trainees.
[34:42] Three minutes, ma'am.
>> Thank you. Thank you. I have looked into
[34:49] this intergovernmental agreement and to
provide the detention officer training
[34:56] and I have seen that in section 4.3 it
says that some of this money could be
[35:03] used for uh things that would cause a
lot of harm like batons and uh tasers.
[35:11] And so I recommend that we do not
approve this um this resolution and that
[35:21] we
add extra oversight and auditing to the
[35:29] way that this um training is being
proposed.
[35:34] And um also
a partially related is that ICE per the
[35:43] AP news has proposed having
>> Margie I I got to stop you there. So
[35:49] this doesn't there's no immigration
training in this and I think we can
[35:53] confirm that.
>> So because there's no immigration
[35:56] training
>> we can't have a discussion on ICE or
[35:59] immigration.
>> Oh yes. Yes.
[36:01] » But everything else you're talking about
was fine.
[36:02] » Oh yes. Yes. I I am sorry about that. I
don't mean to talk about that part. But
[36:08] uh basically I think that this is a
governance question, an accountability
[36:13] question to our budget and that we need
to invest in education and to not
[36:21] approve this training based on um the
contradiction of the um office training
[36:31] compared to the training of how to use
batons and tra and tasers.
[36:35] » Okay.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr.
[36:38] Butler. Do we want do we have anybody
can speak briefly on the training?
[36:42] » Yeah, we do. We do have representatives
from Mesa Police Department that uh
[36:47] Assistant Chief Nesbbit is making her
way up and
[36:51] » yeah, [clears throat] sitting all the
way in the back. Chief [laughter]
[36:58] » and Chief, if Miss Gomez has any
questions after, would you be available
[37:02] to answer them for her?
>> Vice Mayor Summers, absolutely. Thank
[37:05] you.
>> Okay. Thank you for having us up here to
[37:07] um address this training concern. I have
manager Christina Van Gordon here who
[37:11] oversees our holding facility evidence
and property and she is prepared to
[37:15] speak more specifically on the training
requirements that we um have in place
[37:20] for our detention personnel and the
needs and the necessary needs for uh
[37:25] deescalation and specific types of less
than lethal uses of force.
[37:30] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Hi, thank you. Um the training that we
[37:34] have basically mirrors what peace
officers receive from the Arizona Post.
[37:38] We're just not sworn officers to teach
it. So they do everything from the same
[37:42] curriculum that's received at the Mesa
Training Academy.
[37:47] » So it utilizes all levels of force. So
it includes everything. So we need to
[37:51] train on the aspaton. We need to train
on the electronic uh connective device.
[37:56] we need to train on um you know the way
we move folks in certain processes when
[38:03] we have uh limited options, right? And
so these are just levels that we use to
[38:10] address specific scenarios that are
based on all the same uh governance, you
[38:14] know, statute as well as case law that
direct us to use those specific types of
[38:19] force. And those are just tools that are
um in our tool belt, if you will. And I
[38:23] would assume force is the last resort.
>> Correct. These are only used under our
[38:28] policies and procedures that go along
with um when we would use force. That
[38:33] was a reasonable.
>> And you spoke of deescalation. What's
[38:35] that training like?
>> Uh they receive emotional intelligence,
[38:39] deescalation, how to communicate with
people and how to talk people down
[38:42] instead of using the force.
>> And is is that the bulk of the training
[38:45] that they
>> That's a large portion of our training.
[38:47] Yes.
>> Yeah.
[38:49] » You can laugh all you like. That's fine.
Okay. Vice Mayor Summers, just to
[38:53] reinforce the policies and procedures
that are in set in place are under the
[38:57] Mesa Police Department. So they follow
all the same rules that are governed
[39:01] through a post and our trainingmies.
>> Okay. Any questions or from council?
[39:07] » Vice Mayor, I would I would just add to
I I appreciate uh Chief Nesbet giving
[39:12] that explanation. Training is essential
for how our public safety officials do
[39:17] their jobs day in and day out. It is a
tough business but proper training
[39:22] ensures we have less incidents that lead
to concern uh both for the IND the
[39:28] detained individual the other officers
and the other people in the detention
[39:32] center uh itself and so um training is a
good thing more training is a good thing
[39:37] and I'm I'm glad as a department we take
a lot of pride for both uh our detention
[39:42] officers our sworn officers uh anyone
who is in a capacity like that we want
[39:47] to make sure that they have the best
training in the nation and that h has
[39:51] allowed us um our department to have an
exemplary record um when it comes to
[39:56] that um in very challenging situations
that comes into uh policing. So I I
[40:01] think more training is a good thing. So
>> Vice Mayor uh Summers and Council and
[40:06] Mr. Mr. Butler, one last thing. You can
go to our transparency page and there we
[40:11] have explicit information on our
encounters and use of force that goes
[40:15] along with those encounters and the
different types of force that we're
[40:19] using. So, I would strongly recommend uh
checking out the transparency page.
[40:23] » Okay, any additional questions?
All right, seeing none, item 5C,
[40:30] approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into an
[40:33] intergovernmental agreement with the
city of Phoenix to provide detention
[40:36] officer training to city of Phoenix
trainees as set forth uh the terms of
[40:41] reimbursement to the city for such
training. Do I have a motion?
[40:46] Motion from council member Heredia,
second from council member Duff. Please
[40:50] vote.
Motion passes
[40:54] 50 with two absent.
All right, Miss Gomez, you had some uh
[41:01] you're on the record to speak on 7A and
8A. So, you'll be up next, just so you
[41:05] know. So, we'll move on to item 8A. Uh
sorry, my bad. 7A, which is a resolution
[41:13] approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into a development
[41:17] agreement and other arrangements for the
OIO project. Do any council members want
[41:24] to speak on this item?
[41:28] » Council member Duff,
>> I think I prefer to hear from the public
[41:31] and then I'm
>> You want to hear from the public and
[41:32] then we can Okay, Miss Mosley, we had
the one speaker. So, Miss Gomez,
[41:42] and then we'll go back to council. Three
minutes. Ma'am,
[41:45] » thank you so much. So, um I noticed that
this the money taken for this project is
[41:54] being taken from education, including
the community college. And so I think
[42:00] that funding should not be uh taken from
education to subsidize this um this
[42:08] venture. And so I would like for there
to be a lot more oversight into and
[42:16] justification for the funding source and
that an alternative to taking money from
[42:23] the community college fund be um
explored. and that this and that no
[42:29] further action on this resolution is
taken until that happens
[42:36] until we secure a funding source that
does not involve decreasing money from
[42:41] education.
>> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Butler or
[42:45] » Vice Mayor and Mayor or Vice Mayor and
Council. I think I'll I'll take this one
[42:49] if they are it's all right. Uh so as
part of the uh any of our jeepletit
[42:53] deals, government property lease excise
tax deals, we we require that the
[42:58] developer make the other um school
districts and all the other governmental
[43:03] agencies whole by continuing to to to
pay the tax um that they would have paid
[43:08] to those entities. And so the school
districts are made whole. And then at
[43:10] the end of the the eight the eight years
they'll actually the taxes will then
[43:16] obviously ramp up significantly because
they invested in and they made the the
[43:19] improvements to the um to the property.
So during the during the during the
[43:24] lease term they're they're made whole
and then afterwards then the the actual
[43:28] tax amount uh amount will jump up
significantly. So, they still pay their
[43:32] tax to to the state and then after the
8-year termination, there's a property
[43:37] re assessment and then because of the
added value to that assessment, they
[43:42] they make more money in their taxes. So,
they the education is is taken into
[43:48] account in a formula and they do receive
tax dollars. So, we're not cutting them
[43:52] off at all. Would that be accurate?
>> That that would be accurate. And and as
[43:57] Mr. Smith said, that's essential to all
of our GPLET deals. make sure that those
[44:00] taxing indust in um entities are made
whole. Uh and then uh this lot for
[44:06] example has sat vacant for an extended
period of time. I'm sure maybe Mr. McVey
[44:11] could tell us how long that has been. uh
um generating nominal uh taxes on that
[44:17] property. But after this uh 8-year
abatement period, uh they will then uh
[44:23] generate substantially more u revenue
for our educational institutions and
[44:28] those other taxing industries than
exists today or if it maintained a a
[44:32] vacant lot for the years to come.
>> Yeah. And I I appreciate your concern
[44:36] because ma education is important to
this council. We have Mesa Counts on
[44:40] College and a number of other programs
that we fund to ensure that access to
[44:44] higher education and a properly trained
workforce is critical to our economic
[44:50] development activities. So, I do
appreciate your comment. Do is there any
[44:54] other council member would like to make
a comment?
[44:56] » No. Council member Heredia.
>> No, I think uh Mr. Smith mentioned uh I
[45:01] think with the the deals like this uh we
we ensure that our school districts are
[45:06] made whole with which is Mesa Public
Schools uh the community college and
[45:11] EVIT which are the three um and then I
know we've talked about this project
[45:16] quite a bit uh in over the years um as
far as uh creating more opportunities
[45:23] for people to live in the the area of
the Asian district and uh and along the
[45:28] light rail. So, this is a a much needed
project with housing and some commercial
[45:35] uh that will be added uh once it's uh
fully done. So,
[45:40] » very good. Council member Duff.
>> Yeah. Uh the figures on the payment that
[45:44] will be made to the school districts um
on the attachments for the agenda item
[45:50] on page seven of the presentation and
page four of the council report spells
[45:58] out the figures and to the entities that
they will be made whole. Um,
[46:05] one of the reasons that we have the
griplet is to assist the de developer
[46:10] and we have this was a transit uh, what
do you call it? Is it a um,
[46:15] » like a park and ride?
>> Park and ride. And there's a lot of
[46:20] changes that need to be made in order to
have this housing structure here and
[46:25] protect accesses and pedestrian pathways
and reworking that land in order for it
[46:32] to work. It's a huge expense for the
developer and the abatement does assist
[46:36] them in taking care of those transit
adjustments as well as some other things
[46:41] there during this time. So it we make it
a policy that there has to be a public
[46:47] benefit when we offer the the giplets
the the um discounts, but we certainly
[46:53] make sure um that our schools are always
taken care of.
[46:57] » Thank you.
>> And Mr. Butler, it's safe to assume that
[47:00] those agencies that are impacted by this
were part of our discussion. They're not
[47:04] kept in the dark, right?
>> Uh Vice Mayor and Council. Yes. So we
[47:09] actually we provide them notice um ahead
of time and so we've provided them um I
[47:13] can't remember if it's 60 days or 30
days I can't remember the conversation
[47:17] we actually give them notice.
>> Council member Taylor did you have
[47:20] anything?
>> Marjorie I just wanted to say thank you.
[47:23] I really appreciated listening to your
concern for our education institutions.
[47:28] I worked in education for a while, so it
kind of hits near and dear to my heart.
[47:33] And to encourage you to know that there
is funding that offsets the funding they
[47:37] would otherwise lose. And then our hope,
of course, is that with the OVO, it will
[47:42] generate so much more funding that we
will actually be able to give even more
[47:46] money to our education institutions. So,
I just wanted to say thank you for your
[47:51] time that you came up here to express
your concerns.
[47:54] » Yeah. Thank you.
I also taught at ASU so I I know about
[48:00] being in education. [clears throat]
>> Thank you, Dr. Summers. [laughter]
[48:05] » All right, with that item 7A, approving
and authorizing the city manager to
[48:09] enter into an intergovernmental
agreement for uh government property
[48:14] lease excise tax agreement uh with Pride
Ventures LLC for the mixeduse project
[48:20] known as OIO and the real property. I
have a motion. Council member Heredia,
[48:26] second from Council Member Goforth.
Please vote.
[48:30] Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.
[48:34] All right, Miss Gomez,
you also wanted to speak on item 8A. So,
[48:40] let me read some stuff here. Item 8 A is
to conduct a public hearing prior to the
[48:46] release of the petition for signatures
for the proposed annexation case
[48:50] 25-00682
for the property located at the
[48:55] southwest corner of East Williams Field
Road and State Route 24. I declare the
[49:01] public hearing open. Miss Mosley, I
usually go to you, but I have the list
[49:06] of speakers. So, with three minutes,
Miss Gomez. Uh thank you so much again.
[49:13] So uh my concern here is that um the
owner Pacific Proving LLC
[49:21] had also been noted as um
spending money on data centers. And
[49:29] because of this concern of wanting to
have some transparency and
[49:36] accountability for how all of the money
is being spent, I think that there
[49:42] should be um some additional
requirements just to um make sure that
[49:48] all of the money that is being spent is
going towards services and um that
[49:54] improve things for the people in Mesa.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Butler. So, this is
[50:02] the first action of several. Is this a
data center?
[50:05] » This is not a data center.
>> This is not a data center, I promise.
[50:09] » And this is dealing with private
property that this property owner is
[50:12] looking to annex into the city of Mesa.
Um, we we provide no test as what was
[50:19] described uh by the speaker to allow
someone to exercise their right under
[50:24] city code to u to annex into the city.
And Jim may want to add anything to
[50:30] that, but
>> and also just uh vice mayor and counsel,
[50:33] there's no money involved in this. This
is just a release of the petition. This
[50:37] is a statutory, it's basically a notice
hearing that's from a statute that the
[50:42] state passed uh decades ago to just make
sure that the public is aware of an
[50:47] annexation of property. But there's no
money involved in this. It'll come, in
[50:51] fact, you don't even vote after this. Um
you'll it'll come back to council in the
[50:55] future for a vote. So this is just this
is a public notice um that was um that's
[51:00] done in large part because of um
annexations in the um in other areas of
[51:05] the of the state in which um they the
cities didn't provide notice because
[51:08] they don't have an introduction type of
requirement that we have. So this is um
[51:13] this is just a notice hearing
without saying too much. This is a
[51:18] project we've been working on for quite
a while. So stay tuned. But your fears
[51:24] will be set aside. I guarantee.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[51:27] » All right. So, any any other persons
wanting to speak on this?
[51:31] » No other requests.
>> No other requests. I declare the public
[51:34] hearing closed. Uh the hearing was to
release a petition for signatures. No
[51:39] other actions on this item. The item
will come back to council in the future
[51:42] for consideration of the annexation. So,
you're there's the uh this second part
[51:47] that Jim was referring to. Item 8B is to
conduct conduct a public hearing prior
[51:54] to the release of petition for
signatures for the proposed annexation
[51:57] case 25-00893
[52:02] for the property property located at the
northeast corner of South Ellsworth Road
[52:08] and East Williams Field Road. I declare
the public hearing open. Miss Mosley, do
[52:13] we have any requests to speak on this
item?
[52:15] » We have received no requests for this
one.
[52:17] » No requests on this item. Any council
members want to address this item?
[52:22] Okay, seeing none, I declare the public
hearing closed. Again, this item will
[52:26] come back to council in the future for
consideration on the annexation.
[52:33] Item nine, items from citizens present.
We have uh three items. Ms. Mosley, I
[52:40] believe Jason Smithson.
>> Yes, Jason is first, followed by
[52:44] » the first, followed by Noah. Noah,
you're on deck.
[52:49] Not again.
[52:53] » Vice Mayor, council members, on June
20th, I spoke before this council
[52:58] regarding the IGA between the city of
Mesa and Mesa public schools concerning
[53:03] the school resource officer program.
During those remarks, I stated that an
[53:08] officer assigned to Mesa High School was
on the Brady list. At that time, I
[53:12] believed it to be accurate based on
information I had received from sources
[53:16] considered credible. I have since
learned that that statement was
[53:20] incorrect. The officer in question is
not on the Brady list. Regardless of
[53:25] where the information came from or why I
believed it to be accurate, I was the
[53:30] person who stated at this podium and
said it publicly. That responsibility
[53:34] belongs to me. I would never knowingly
make a false or defamatory statement
[53:39] about anyone, particularly a member of
law enforcement. That officer deserves
[53:44] the same fairness, accuracy, and respect
that I would expect if someone were
[53:48] speaking publicly about me. Since
learning of my mistake, I have been in
[53:52] contact with Chief of Police Dan Butler
and Sergeant Gillet Gilllet, don't want
[53:58] to butcher his name, and my words have
been shared with the officer involved.
[54:02] But because I made that statement
publicly, I believe the correction and
[54:06] apology should also be made publicly. So
to the officer, to the Mesa Police
[54:11] Department, the council, and the Mesa
community, I am sincerely sorry.
[54:16] Accountability and transparency means
more than just demanding it from other
[54:19] people. It means accepting it yourself
when you get something wrong. I got this
[54:24] wrong. I take responsibility for it and
I will be more diligent in verifying
[54:29] information before making statements of
fact publicly. I can't undo what I said
[54:33] on June 20th, but I can correct the
record, apologize without qualification,
[54:38] learn from it, and do better moving
forward. Thank you.
[54:43] » All right.
Thank you, uh, Noah. And then the final
[54:48] speaker is Leanne. So, Leanne, you're on
deck.
[54:52] Um, aloha vice mayor and to the rest of
the city council. My name is Noah James
[54:57] Markham and I'm from the great city of
uh Tempe. So I I want to give a huge
[55:04] congratulations to Nick Willis. Um, wow.
A Mormon. Yes. That believes in good
[55:11] values finally.
Also, I would like to talk about the
[55:15] Superstition Springs Mall. Um, Vice
Mayor, uh, Scott, I I need more
[55:23] renovation with this, more businesses
there.
[55:27] Try to do something over there, more
apartments down there. We need to
[55:31] remodel around there because there's so
many people that are coming that way
[55:35] now. There's more building going to
Apache Junction. There's more building
[55:39] going to other cities around there. Um,
so that would be a great hot spot for
[55:43] people to go to instead of going to the
Chandler Mall all the time. Um also um
[55:50] this is a big concern for me and as
people are trying to put down this data
[55:56] center um the Tokyo data center
especially um we need to recognize the
[56:03] people um the Japanese Americans that
suffered a lot in America and the
[56:10] Japanese concentration camps are not
very far away um from Mesa. Um but um I
[56:16] I really think this would be a great
gift for the Japanese Americans and
[56:21] people from Tokyo could come into this
business and um you can see what the
[56:25] Japanese are smart of. They are very
smart. Um and I think we should build
[56:30] this um in uh Mesa. Also, I would like
to talk about um Mayor Freeman. Mayor
[56:38] Freeman, um I'm sorry, but um I'm just
happy that the last mayor before you,
[56:43] John Giles from Mesa, is an independent
will be on the ticket with Katie Hos for
[56:48] reelection, and we need him as the first
lieutenant governor. Also, I would like
[56:53] to talk about Flock. Another thing I
really like flock, but there are people
[56:59] that are making mistakes with this and
that is the police officers, whoever is
[57:03] in charge of this, it is it's
embarrassing. Um, but I want to be safe,
[57:08] too. Um, and I know Flack will do its
job. Um, but right now, I guess people
[57:13] are not um they're against it right now.
So, [laughter] um, let's see. But,
[57:19] mahalo, thank you so much.
>> All right. Thank you, Noah and Leanne.
[57:26] Hi Leanne, you have three minutes.
>> Thank you.
[57:30] U Mesa currently has around 15 data
centers. They use or could use lithium
[57:35] batteries which in the case they catch
on fire will need tons of water more
[57:40] than just a regular house or warehouse
fire to put it out or even special
[57:44] chemicals I believe. I don't know. Uh
after that it gets put out, someone
[57:49] needs to keep an eye on the battery for
at least a few weeks to make sure it
[57:52] doesn't catch on fire again. Instead of
using so instead of using water to put
[57:58] out the fires, they could use it to cool
the systems, right? But that can take
[58:02] around millions of gallons of water in
cooler states, might I add. So how much
[58:06] do you think they will use here during a
115 degree day? We're already facing a
[58:11] water shortage due to uh do we want to
lose more to these centers? If not
[58:17] water, they could use diesel powered
generators to assist in cooling their
[58:21] systems down, ignoring the air pollution
on that aspect alone. They could tap
[58:26] into the electric grid to not only
power, but to cool their systems down.
[58:30] The sounds from both of these choices
are awful and can be heard for miles.
[58:35] This sound will scare away not only
wildlife but the monarch butterflies
[58:38] that Mayor Freeman signed a national
wildlife pledge to help increase their
[58:42] population. If he can break this pledge,
this promise by introducing things that
[58:47] will disrupt their migration patterns
and dwindle their numbers even more,
[58:51] then what other promises will he break?
The sound inside of these centers will
[58:57] drive down property value or if built
near businesses could drive away
[59:01] potential customers or new businesses
due to the sound pollution. Just like we
[59:06] heard during the Falcon Field landing
fee meeting where a business owner
[59:09] complained that their numbers dropped
due to planes flying close enough to
[59:13] hear. And what about the people who
wanted to have a quiet morning on their
[59:17] porch? Plane noises disappear at least,
but these centers will always be there
[59:21] humming away more loud and more annoying
than the planes.
[59:25] These centers will cause strains on the
electric grid. And while increasing our
[59:29] electric bills will cause rolling
blackouts to prevent a full shutdown. If
[59:34] it does get overwhelmed or one small
thing, one small mistake happens, a
[59:38] total blackout can occur. Just like in
New York, July 13th and the 14th, 1977,
[59:45] which resulted in four deaths and 550
injuries, or the Northeast blackout on
[59:50] August 4th, which in 2003, which lasted
in some areas 2 hours and others up to 4
[59:56] days, and that resulted in around 100
deaths. Now, imagine that happening here
[1:00:01] when those days are recorded uh 115°.
>> You have about 20 seconds.
[1:00:07] » Thank you. Uh, we don't need any more
data centers, AI centers, or the
[1:00:11] extension on the NT center. I would
sooner trust nuclear power plants than
[1:00:16] these centers.
If anyone if anyone votes yes on these
[1:00:21] centers, we will vote no on your next
election or have you recalled like those
[1:00:25] before. Thank you.
Made it. All right. [applause]
[1:00:34] I assume the applause is because this
was such a great meeting, but
[1:00:38] So with that, that was our last speaker.
That's all the items we have for this
[1:00:42] meeting. There is a motion to adjurnn. I
have a motion from council member Go
[1:00:46] forth, a second from council member
Taylor. All in favor, please say I. I.
[1:00:51] » Any opposed? We are adjourned.
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