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>> good evening.

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this is the regular village commission meeting for

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wednesday, december 8, 2021 peered the time is 7:10

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p.m. And I'm calling this meeting to order madame clerk

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can you please call the meeting roll call?

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>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

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commissioner richard chervony?

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commissioner julianna strout?

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commissioner rachel streitfeld?

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commissioner julianna strout are you there?

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mayor, you have a quorum.

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>> thank you.

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I would like to say the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states

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of america into the republic for which it stands one

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nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> I am sorry?

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no, I did not waste the flag myself but I do not mind

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it being over there.

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we can see it from here.

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yesterday was pearl harbor day and we should all

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remember.

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let's have a quick moment of silence to remember the

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soldiers who may have sacrificed in pearl harbor and

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world war ii. Thank you.

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okay, order of business.

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did anyone have anything for the order of business?

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commissioner richard chervony?

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>> I would like to pull from the consentagenda items

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a1, a2, and a3 and I know that laurel was kind enough

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to get us and ordinance that was approved by p & z. I

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would like to add that to the agenda.

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>> is it an ordinance?

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does it need to be advertised?

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it is okay to edit tonight.

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>>> okay.

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let's add that as 13 b essentially 13 c.

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correct?

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>> mayor, ken we also pull 11 a?

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>> I was going to ask to pull that as well.

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we will pull those from the consent and add those to

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the top of the discussion items and then we have a

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request from our marketing director, our communication

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and shall even direct your. We would liketo move item

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on 14b and we have a few professionals on the line that

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could help with that presentation and we want to

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respect their time.

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is there anything else?

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>> I have something mayor.

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>> dr. Ralph rosado I have something.

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you would like it for two january, fine.

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okay.

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let's move to presentations.

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employee of the month, december 2021.

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is it going to be angela?

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welcome.

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>> I wanted to divide a brief introduction.

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we have to present the november and december employees

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of the month.

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the november employee of the month sandra sigman was

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out.

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we hope she will join usat the front of the room.

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these are long-term employees and we are proud of the

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work you have done for us for so many years. This was

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an easy choice for us and they have tremendous support

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across the entire organization as they work closely

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with our staff village wide.

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we are pleased to honor in november sandra sigman first

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of all. Sandra, will you join us?

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[laughter]

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[applause] angela, our cfo has written a lovely essay

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on sandra's behalf. I asked her to read. It is a

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paragraph in itentirety.[laughter]

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>> good eveningmayor, vice mayor and commissioners.

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I would love to read my essay.

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>> really, you wrote an essay?

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>> it is a paragraph. It was right after budget, so I

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was emotional.

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but seriously, sandra is a very valued employee and

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coworker. Everyday sandra comes into the office and

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goes above and beyond for the people she works for and

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with.

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that was definitely never more obvious and in the

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budget cycle.

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and, it was my first budget cycle here but it wasn't my

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first budget cycle obviously in my life.

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she was very impressive.

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we even had a 14 hour zoom and she didn't complain

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once.

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>> 14 hours?

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>> 14 hours.

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I got a text or a call from johnny, he thought my zoom

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id had been hacked.

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>> that is impressive.

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>> she spends in less nights and weekends helping with

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the budget and she could have spent it with her family.

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some of those examples are one-on-one with you guys

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during the budget. She was actually in columbia with

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her family on vacation yet she set aside time to make

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sure she was on that zoom call.

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>>.[indiscernable] [laughter]

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>> she is always available. She always makes herself

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available to any village employee including myself, the

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village manager, pd, anyone.

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I would say that the village is fortunate to have her

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as an employee. She gives so much of herself without

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asking for anything in return. Based on her unwavering

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commitment to the village that is why I nominated her

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for employee of the month.

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[applause]

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>> beautiful.

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>> should beget a picture?

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>> yes, please.

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angela, don't go too far away.

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our employee of the month in december has been with us

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for over 25 years.

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this is amenta clinton.

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she is very much committed to north bay village and I

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think everyone knows she is also a resident.

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we want to thank her for her strong collaborative work

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and dedication to the department.

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I know that angela would like to say some words.

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>> like the manager said she has been here for over 25

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years starting out as a part-time employee at the post

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office.

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she transitioned 16 years ago to overseeing payroll and

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she now does things like processing the off-duty

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payments for the police department which is challenging

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at times.

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she does things like the most recent thing she does on

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her off time is she came in to help with the veterans

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day luncheon.

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that just shows what a team player she is.

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and, I think that is most impressive to me and shows

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what a strong character she has because of the things

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she has to deal with at home.

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that just shows that she does anything for anyone.

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it is impressive to me. She goes through a lot and she

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is always smiling. That is why we nominated her for

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the december employee of the month.

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we could not live without her.

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[laughter] true.

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she is great.

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we did nominate her.

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>> foreshadowing.

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>> angela, thank you for having the backs of the

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employees in your department as you do.

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in q.

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>> thank you.

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>> chief, I think you are on.

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>> absolutely.

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we have an exciting addition. I know some of you got

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to meet him during our thanksgiving luncheon but

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tonight is the formal introduction of our latest

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officer, he joins us from the great city of opa locka

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where he served for six years and we are very pleased

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to welcome him. He is taking the place of officer

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daniels so he will join us with the school board. We

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are excited.

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johnny has a wonderful track record and is wonderful

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personality will be a shining star in our department,

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no doubt. I would like to handed over for the chieffor

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further information.

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>> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners and

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members of the public. I'm excited to introduce

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officer johnny. I said this when our previous officer

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created the vacancy left. I look at these as great

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opportunities.

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opportunities to raise the bar.

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professionalism, to make the department better, to

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bring people with great skill sets into become public

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safety professionals for north bay village.

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officer johnny was on our radar right away he came with

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tremendous recommendations.

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his work in a blocker was outstanding.

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everyone had tremendous accolades for johnny so we put

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him on the radar and quickly started the process and

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realized he was the real deal.

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briefly, the purpose of today is a brief intro because

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we will do a formal swearing in ceremony and

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promotional ceremony at the end of january.

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johnny was born in new york city and we will not hold

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that against him.

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[laughter] he did move to boston where he grew up and

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met his wife, teresa.

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donnie and his wife, teresa have been married for 19

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years. They have three wonderful children I happen to

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meet one of them the youngest one who is attending st.

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thomas diversity.

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he has a degree in information technology from the

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university of phoenix.

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he worked in it in boston at john hancock and also ran

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a successful martial arts school where he taught men,

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women and children.

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he has defensive tactics to add to our training unit.

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he has also trained nationally and internationally

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competing in tae kwon do in 2004.

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he was accepted to the police department academy and

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decided to bypass his goal of becoming a police officer

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at that time.

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because he had a newborn daughter.

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johnny and his family arrived in florida in 2004.

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he had a couple of jobs before putting himself through

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the police academy and graduated in 2012.

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he worked for the opa locka police department as a

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manager stated and then elevated himself to detective

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and did outstanding work there. Everyone we spoke to

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had nothing but great things to say. Like I said, we

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saw that as the opportunity to raise the bar in the

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police department and we are excited to have johnny as

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part of our team.

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congratulations.

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>> of course I am excited to be here. All of my

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interactions have been fabulous with everyone I have

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met and spoken to. I am excited to be here. I thank

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each and everyone of you for the opportunity.

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>> welcome johnny.

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>> welcome!

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>> I think that concludes the presentation's part of

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the program paid we can move onto the open forum.

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>> mayor, for the record I wanted to announce that

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commissioner julianna strout mentioned to me she is on

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zoom and is in attendance.

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>> I haven't been able to get on the zoom meeting yet

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so if she does at some point want to make a comment

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please let me know we can include her.

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is there anyone online for the open forum?

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would anyone in the public like to make a comment to

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the commission? A presentation?

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regards?

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anything?

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nothing? Okay, we are good and we will move on.

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the approval of commission minutes?

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commissioner richard chervony?

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>>item 5c.

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>> I'm sorry.

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>> those are the regular village commission meetings

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from 11/9.

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>> when we open those up it gives me the minutes of

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october 12th.

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I was not able to see the minutes of november night.

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I would liketo record that for the next meeting when

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they are there.

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other than that I will make a motion to approve item 5a

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>> I will second.

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>> all in favor?

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anyone against?

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>> mr. Mayor, sorry to interrupt.

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there is one item on the consent with the approving of

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the eco-pod.

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did you pull it?

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matt, I have just been informed that matt from eco-pod

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is here and if we can it would be great to give him a

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moment to speak about the partnership.

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>> let's do that.

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when is the appropriate time to do that?

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>> now, he is here.

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>> it is on the consent agenda end let's go ahead. We

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just did the open forum.

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>> thank you.

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welcome, matt.

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>> good evening.

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thank you, mr. Mayor, vice mayor and commissioners.

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my name is matthew going.

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sometimes when you think you have a presentation and

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it's in the bag you just go with it.

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it was on the consent and in all seriousness what I

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would like to say is you are the first municipality to

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step forward to offer a refill solution to residents

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and you need to be commended for that because that is

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fantastic.

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right now, the single use plastic issue is not just an

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environmental problem, it is a crisis. There's micro

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plastics showing up in health studies. I'm not going

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to bore you with details but the one fact we are all

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interested in is by 2050 there will be more single use

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plastic in the ocean by weight then fish.

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to step forward and do this and offer it is

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commendable. I think it is a historicday, honestly

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because other units apologies will follow suit and I

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want to thank you for considering it.

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>> thank you, I would like to ask you a couple of

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questions.

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you are going to presumably do some press on this or

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media?

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can we help you with that? We have a great public

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relations communicator.

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and we know that that is something that we would like

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to help with.

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>> yeah, it would be great to take a photo now, if

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possible.

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and, I also, matt, thank you so much.

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your words are very resonant here.

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I also think it is wonderful and remarkable about this

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partnership. It came through one of our resident.

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the idea to bring eco-pods to north bay village came

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from a volunteer on our sustainability and resiliency

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task force have great staff that was able to follow-up

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and it is another great example in the way that our

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community leads from the ground up.

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>> thank you, very much.

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we would love to work with the communications director.

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we would love to make agreat public relations event

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out of it. One of the things you should know is that

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one of our partners in this is armando perez better

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known as pitbull. He is a huge environmentalist. A

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lot of people don't know that. He is also a safe

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waterdrinking water ambassador and is very committed

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and I'm sure he would love to get involved as well.

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>> sounds good. Helen is standing next to you.

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>> we do have a press release that is waiting to go

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out.

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the next step, and we were in talks earlier today is to

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finalize a date for a ribbon-cutting when we officially

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install. That will be coming up in january in the new

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year just so you guys are aware.

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>> we need to get the word out to the residence so they

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can start utilizing the service. Thank you very much,

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fantastic.

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do we want to do a photo now?

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>> yeah, let's do it.

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>> we might as well.

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>> the machine will be placed outside?

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do we want to take a picture in that location?

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okay.

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>> thank you,fantastic.

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thank you captain.

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all right.

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fantastic.

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where were we?

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we didn't get all of the minutes through but we did get

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some of them, so that is good.

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advisory board minutesplease.

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>> after a review of the advisory board, can we have an

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updated list of who has missed more meetings than they

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have allowed? If there is a good excuseand put that

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next to them now. If they were in the hospital don't

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want to ding them for it but we need to review that.

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>> okay, thank you.

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okay, village commission's report.

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oh, denny!

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come on up.

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>> good evening everybody.

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I wanted to make a report because this is the last

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meeting of the year.

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we have done so much this year.

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I am denise o'brien, chair of sustainability and

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resiliency task force.

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I wanted to make sure to mark this day because this

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year has been really an amazing year and very

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productive in all areas not just in resiliency.

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we had the workshop on stormwater management and we

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have already heard about what this commission is doing

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to save the community. This is what we are talking

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about here. However, there was one project where you

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the commission made a resolution in april.

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we are asking our task force to come back to you with

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some recommendations on a marine protected area.

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those recommendations should come to you by the end of

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the year so it is not on your agenda today. I will

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make a quick recitation of all the work we did, as you

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have asked and then it can be put on the agenda

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whenever the appropriate meeting is next year. I'm

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going to try to share my screen and laura said this

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would work, right?

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okay.

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we talked about this as a marine protected area.

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the idea had been to have something that was very

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clearly limit stated with all sorts of rules and

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regulations.

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as you can see, the title we have here is north bay

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village marine park had how did we go from a marine

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protected area to a park? This is what I will be

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presenting to you. The idea of having a project in

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north bay village to make our contribution in saving

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this clean bay came in part as a response to the

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biscayne bay task force per they issued a report in

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2020 and among the recommendations they had to specific

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ones we will be addressing with this initiative there

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recommendations 6a is about raising awareness and

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education and the recommendation 6g called to support

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something they call "living laboratory for bay health".

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if you are wondering what is a living laboratory, it

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means having new technology in the bay.

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in the water.

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technology that is designed to save the bay.

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I say, save the bay to resuscitate the bay because it

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is gone, the bay.

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this picture shows you the fish kill. This was right

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outside of my building on harbor island more than a

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year ago.

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it was following this fish kill that we decided we

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really had to do something.

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that is when you as a commission passes resolution

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asking the task force to come back with some proposals.

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what could north bay village do and implement

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recommendations from the task force and how can we

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continue to be a leader you mac we have established

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ourselves as leaders in this field.

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we are small but we have strong leadership.

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the commission asked us to consult throughout the year

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with people from the academic community the elected

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officials from the county. Also with various advisory

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boards hereand that's exactly what we did throughout

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the year. It was a result of this consulting that led

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to this change from a marine protected area to a

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northbay village marine park.

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you must think of this as a park.

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usually when you think of a park you think of walking

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over somewhere and there are swings, slides or a dog

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park.

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this is on land and we are talking about a park that

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will be in the water. We are talking aboutus as a

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village going beyond our land-based and having a

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presence in the water.

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we have islands, how can we not have a presence in the

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water?

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we wanted to create a marine park and this is the

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recommendation coming to you.

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there are three pillars for this park.

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three types of activities that we would like to engage

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in in this area that is going to be the park.

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the first one is scientific.

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it is to allow the scientists from the university of

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miami and from fiu through which we have an

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understanding to use the waters of north bay village to

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implement the living laboratory that was called for

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from the biscayne bay task force. We will be the first

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ever unison polity to step up and say we are going to

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help you create a living laboratory.

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it does not mean we will have financial cost or we will

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pay for any of these projects and it does not mean that

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we are going to have to do all of the permitting and

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liability. It will be in the hands of whoever has

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proposed these projects and it will go through a

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guiding process, the project must be accepted so there

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is no financial or permitting or legal responsibility.

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the second one is educational programs.

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we want to educate to create awareness. They talk

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about in the meeting we had with fiu professors they

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said k through gray. He saidkindergarten through the

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old people like myself.

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so to be able to educate all the residents but our

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children.

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most importantly are the children.

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if we cannot have a new generation that understand

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biscayne bay who understand the history or don't know

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what happens to it or understand what caused it to die

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but more important, it will be instrumental in bringing

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it back to life.

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this awareness, this educational program, we will be

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developing under this banner of the north bay village

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park paired what do you do in a park? Were going to

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have education and awareness raising and finally

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recreation.

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how many of you have been in the bay or on the bay in

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the last six month?

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okay.

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what we want is to make sure that all of our residents

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have the opportunity to either go into the water or on

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the water.

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we want to open this whole space up to them.

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it is a space that is not open to them it is only open

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to these private property owners that have these

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seawalls that we have all these discussions about.

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what about everybody else?

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it has been discussed so much and as we develop the bay

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walk, the island walk, and two projects back to the

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island walk.

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we are going to be giving more access to the bay and

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that is the idea. It is a marine park.

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if it is a marine park our residents must have access

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to it.

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were going to work to develop more points of access and

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intrigue.

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this little highlights, thank you richard.

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this shows the jurisdiction of waters.

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all of these activities these 3 pillars can take place

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anywhere.

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within the jurisdictional waters, they will not be

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tricked into a specific area as a marine protected area

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would have been. They won't be restricted to a

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specific activity.

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we might do kayak access at vogel park.

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we might have some swimming activities out of the east

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drive park.

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we will be able to develop different activities and we

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will have activities on land.

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the idea that it is a marine park but we could also

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have activities on land.

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the governance of this we will propose is that the

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condition would create a nbv marine park committee.

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the idea is to have someone from the commission,

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someone from the task force, someone from the

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university of miami, fiu and to ngo that would steer

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the process.

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they would be the ones to coordinate and solicit

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projects and ideas to make things happen in this park.

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they would be steering the way to make this park a

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reality. And for your information that is not the son,

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that is the moon in that picture.

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scientific we already have a scientific experiment

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going on in the water.

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you can see our mayor brent latham there holding rebar.

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unless he's gone to the gym and has superpowers that we

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were aware of, no human being could lift the

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traditional rebar.

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a way way too much.

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these are the rebar that has been developed by the

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university of miami and they do not rest.

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they are based on materials that don't rest and rest is

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what breaks down the seawall.

524
00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:25,991
if you are going to ralph, be looking at companies that

525
00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:28,660
might have done work around here.

526
00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:32,630
not many companies north would know companies have done

527
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,432
work with these rebar's.

528
00:35:34,432 --> 00:35:38,403
you should be looking at companies that are interested

529
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:42,374
in innovation and interested in giving to our village,

530
00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:45,910
seawalls that will last decades beyond the existing

531
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:46,378
technology.

532
00:35:46,378 --> 00:35:49,914
you're going to need seawalls that are modular.

533
00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:52,117
existing seawalls are not modular.

534
00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:57,889
if you want to put in a new seawall you have to destroy

535
00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:01,860
the old one new seawalls being designed by the

536
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,620
university of miami are modular.

537
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,165
you can go up, you can adapt.

538
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:12,370
we talked about the need for adaptation for a plan to

539
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:12,937
be flexible.

540
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:15,140
these new designs give it.

541
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:19,110
we already have a specific project in nbv park.

542
00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:23,982
my goal here is to have five more projects of different

543
00:36:23,982 --> 00:36:28,420
types or just an expansion of this one with more

544
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:31,890
private sector owners involved in this.

545
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:31,523
education.

546
00:36:31,523 --> 00:36:36,394
we have now gotten in agreement from the thai school to

547
00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:41,266
have blue scholars come in and provide free of cost a

548
00:36:41,266 --> 00:36:43,340
program to our children.

549
00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:45,670
it is directed to the fourth-graders.

550
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:47,439
these are just two.

551
00:36:47,439 --> 00:36:51,876
I've picked it up from the website. These are children

552
00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:56,748
who went to the program or the program is designed for

553
00:36:56,748 --> 00:37:00,719
fourth-graders to learn about the history of the bay

554
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,590
and the ecosystem of the bay, how it works, how it

555
00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:09,127
functions, what are the main characteristics: what are

556
00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:13,565
some of the amazing creatures that are there that they

557
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:14,899
didn't know about?

558
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:17,535
what are some of the plant?

559
00:37:17,535 --> 00:37:22,407
there are five modules and they can go for free in

560
00:37:22,407 --> 00:37:26,845
school and before the pandemic students would go on a

561
00:37:26,845 --> 00:37:28,613
boat in the water.

562
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:33,918
as soon we get over this pandemic bump which I am very

563
00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:38,356
positive we know that we have vaccinations that we will

564
00:37:38,356 --> 00:37:42,327
be over, our kids will go out in boats.

565
00:37:42,327 --> 00:37:47,198
they will be out there on the water learning about the

566
00:37:47,198 --> 00:37:47,665
bay.

567
00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:52,700
hopefully, we can get scholars to let some of the

568
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:56,508
children at heart and residents to also do some adult

569
00:37:56,508 --> 00:38:00,945
programs as soon we can get back onto. And finally,

570
00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:01,379
recreation.

571
00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:06,684
the picture on the left is the sandbar that is just to

572
00:38:06,684 --> 00:38:11,556
the north. If you have ever walked along there at low

573
00:38:11,556 --> 00:38:16,427
tide you can see the sandbar that forms in the ocean.

574
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:20,832
if you have a kayak you can paddle out there.

575
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:23,670
it is an amazing variant.

576
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:27,939
we want people to do all type of activities on the

577
00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:31,476
water and we want to increase these recreational

578
00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:34,112
activities as best as we can.

579
00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:38,116
this is the proposal that we bring to you.

580
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:43,421
the idea of a north a village marine park I hope you

581
00:38:43,421 --> 00:38:44,756
like the idea.

582
00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:47,392
it is flexible and adapt to.

583
00:38:47,392 --> 00:38:52,263
we can really turn it into whatever we have the energy.

584
00:38:52,263 --> 00:38:55,800
presented this to committee services and they provided

585
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,238
to suggestions, one is a glass bottom boat and the

586
00:39:00,238 --> 00:39:02,600
other one is artwork.

587
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,543
they are thinking about the possibility of putting

588
00:39:05,543 --> 00:39:10,415
artwork underneath the water or in the water so you can

589
00:39:10,415 --> 00:39:14,853
go out there snorkeling or diving and see the artwork

590
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,187
in the water.

591
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:21,926
I think it is a fabulous idea and that is the idea that

592
00:39:21,926 --> 00:39:24,128
came from the advisory board.

593
00:39:24,128 --> 00:39:29,000
with that, it will be on your agenda whenever it it's

594
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,400
the schedules. Starting in the new year. I didn't

595
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,408
want the year to end without coming back without a

596
00:39:37,408 --> 00:39:42,747
proposal or ideas and I hope to make the dream of the

597
00:39:42,747 --> 00:39:47,619
possibilities and what we have to do next year to make

598
00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:48,920
this a reality.

599
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,821
thank you.

600
00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:51,155
>>denise, thank you.

601
00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:52,490
a quick question.

602
00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:56,270
it's wonderful and it sounds interesting and unique.

603
00:39:56,270 --> 00:40:00,431
what is different from the concept of this park and

604
00:40:00,431 --> 00:40:03,968
north bay village anywhere else in this area?

605
00:40:03,968 --> 00:40:08,406
>> if are created this you wouldn't have no motorized

606
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:11,509
vessels, fishing, whatever you wanted to stipulate.

607
00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:15,480
these types of exclusions for example is something you

608
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,149
can still create within the park.

609
00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:23,888
so what is different is the rest of the bay is like our

610
00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:25,223
bay is now.

611
00:40:25,223 --> 00:40:26,991
there's nothing out there.

612
00:40:26,991 --> 00:40:30,940
there's nobody thinking about that or planning.

613
00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:31,863
there's nobody creating activities.

614
00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:34,966
we will make activities that's the difference.

615
00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:40,271
if we don't have this concept of the nbv park you have

616
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:45,143
exactly what you have right now which is a lot more

617
00:40:45,143 --> 00:40:48,246
open space and empty water and dying.

618
00:40:48,246 --> 00:40:53,117
ask if I can add to the chairs comments, this marine

619
00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:57,989
part can be thought of as a branding tool, right? We

620
00:40:57,989 --> 00:41:01,526
are essentially opening up our offshore waters to

621
00:41:01,526 --> 00:41:05,964
innovators and scientists who want to come to us with

622
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:10,368
project ideas and part of this marine park idea, there

623
00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:14,372
will be essentially a board or a committee who

624
00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:17,800
evaluates projects proposals and their funding

625
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,120
mechanisms and so on and so forth to make

626
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,313
recommendations to us.

627
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:27,652
as opposed to what we were looking at before which is a

628
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:32,560
delineated area, we are now saying we don't want to

629
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,494
focus on projects in that one particular area, we want

630
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:37,829
to tell everyone.

631
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:41,799
we been using this term living laboratory for years

632
00:41:41,799 --> 00:41:42,233
now.

633
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,803
this is a brand that really encapsulates living

634
00:41:45,803 --> 00:41:49,774
laboratory. It is not in conflict of our other

635
00:41:49,774 --> 00:41:54,212
branding effort. I think the north bay village as a

636
00:41:54,212 --> 00:41:58,616
marine park is a great way to package what will

637
00:41:58,616 --> 00:42:02,153
probably be a future grant and project application.

638
00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:03,540
>> yeah.

639
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:03,921
I agree.

640
00:42:03,921 --> 00:42:08,793
what I'm trying to get ed and this is going to

641
00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:12,797
potentially reduce some things but I really want to

642
00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:18,102
wrap my mind around what we can do to make it. I

643
00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:21,639
understand the concept of making a marine park.

644
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:26,944
I want to understand what we can do to make sure that

645
00:42:26,944 --> 00:42:29,180
it becomes a unique thing.

646
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:34,510
apart from a place like key biscayne where they can do

647
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:35,820
research or do kayaking.

648
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:40,691
>> they cannot do research pay they can do kayaking but

649
00:42:40,691 --> 00:42:42,894
no, research they cannot do.

650
00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:47,765
is no facility unless you are part of the university of

651
00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:50,868
miami and they're not even in biscayne.

652
00:42:50,868 --> 00:42:52,637
so, this is unique.

653
00:42:52,637 --> 00:42:57,410
the scientific pillar is the one that is really unique.

654
00:42:57,410 --> 00:43:01,450
it doesn't exist elsewhere and we would be pioneers.

655
00:43:01,450 --> 00:43:05,160
education and recreation yes you can do that anywhere

656
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,218
but who is doing it?

657
00:43:07,218 --> 00:43:11,222
which venous polity is out there pushing these issues?

658
00:43:11,222 --> 00:43:15,660
which minister polity is investing in this park to have

659
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:16,940
kayaks?

660
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:20,965
the others that are doing it, there's a big fight about

661
00:43:20,965 --> 00:43:22,733
the kayak launch space.

662
00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:24,936
>> there always will be.

663
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:28,940
>> other than the scientific and of course the

664
00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:32,910
scientific is the most important. It is the most

665
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:35,112
unique and the most important.

666
00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:39,984
you could say educational is an add-on, but it is super

667
00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:40,418
important.

668
00:43:40,418 --> 00:43:44,422
going to have our children learning about the bay.

669
00:43:44,422 --> 00:43:48,826
we didn't have this concept we would never have done

670
00:43:48,826 --> 00:43:49,293
this.

671
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:53,264
I would've never contacted the scholar scholars and we

672
00:43:53,264 --> 00:43:56,367
would not have any discussion with them.

673
00:43:56,367 --> 00:44:01,239
we went over to the school because of this marine park.

674
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,676
>> so creating a marine park you eventually create one

675
00:44:05,676 --> 00:44:10,810
of the critical mass of rain oriented activities in one

676
00:44:10,810 --> 00:44:14,850
place and builds off each other and create efficiencies

677
00:44:14,850 --> 00:44:18,550
and moves science forward in terms of preserving or

678
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:19,390
resuscitating the bay?

679
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:23,794
>> also as a branding mechanism, you will be there,

680
00:44:23,794 --> 00:44:24,695
won't you?

681
00:44:24,695 --> 00:44:28,666
>> I will be there in a few minutes.

682
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:34,438
>> if we are the heart of the bay, what do we doend

683
00:44:34,438 --> 00:44:39,744
it's going to be more than just a slogan it will be

684
00:44:39,744 --> 00:44:41,780
embodied in this.

685
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:45,490
>> I don't see this as a unique project.

686
00:44:45,490 --> 00:44:49,487
see this as starting a project that hopefully all other

687
00:44:49,487 --> 00:44:53,457
municipalities on the water would like to imitate or

688
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:53,925
emulate.

689
00:44:53,925 --> 00:44:58,763
were going to be the leaders on this project and I

690
00:44:58,763 --> 00:45:03,201
certainly hope for the communities to jump on board but

691
00:45:03,201 --> 00:45:06,737
we have to start by creating everything with

692
00:45:06,737 --> 00:45:09,840
sustainability during the year and the plan.

693
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,609
I don't expect unique.

694
00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:16,470
uniqueness might be the plan of the cep in the

695
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:19,584
underwater sculptures that might be down there. That

696
00:45:19,584 --> 00:45:20,918
becomes a reality.

697
00:45:20,918 --> 00:45:25,323
it's an outrageous idea but you have to make that

698
00:45:25,323 --> 00:45:25,790
reality.

699
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:30,194
there is uniqueness in the programs that we are going

700
00:45:30,194 --> 00:45:34,198
to create or try to create at this park.

701
00:45:34,198 --> 00:45:39,503
but, I am certainly hoping and I think that is the idea

702
00:45:39,503 --> 00:45:44,375
behind this is to be emulated and copied by any other

703
00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:47,912
coastal community and we are saving our bay.

704
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:51,882
because, the little piece of bay around north bay

705
00:45:51,882 --> 00:45:54,552
village alone will save the bay.

706
00:45:54,552 --> 00:45:59,423
>> we might be able to savehave the technology to save

707
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:03,394
other bays. We are hoping scientist to implement it.

708
00:46:03,394 --> 00:46:08,265
let me give you another outrageous idea. I want to do

709
00:46:08,265 --> 00:46:09,600
a snorkel trail.

710
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,703
underwater assignedwhat the different plants are or

711
00:46:12,703 --> 00:46:16,674
ecosystems are and create a trail that is underwater.

712
00:46:16,674 --> 00:46:22,880
yet to put on a mask and be able to snorkel and go over

713
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,318
there swimming and you will be on an underwater museum

714
00:46:27,318 --> 00:46:31,722
learning about the bay and it would be integrated into

715
00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:35,726
the scholars program and the children would be out

716
00:46:35,726 --> 00:46:40,131
there with their masks and snorkels on looking in the

717
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:40,598
water.

718
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:45,903
it is dreamy. But if you create the concept and if you

719
00:46:45,903 --> 00:46:51,208
back it and you believe in it, you have to believe in

720
00:46:51,208 --> 00:46:51,642
it.

721
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:56,800
then, we can really have things happening and I will

722
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,385
come back to you as soon as you have decided if you

723
00:47:01,385 --> 00:47:06,257
want to go ahead with this with the first one-year plan

724
00:47:06,257 --> 00:47:10,227
with what our milestones are, our objectives are and

725
00:47:10,227 --> 00:47:14,665
this educational program we wanted to be in the spring,

726
00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:19,537
summer and fall. We are hoping to take it onto the

727
00:47:19,537 --> 00:47:24,842
boat. So, we have a bit of a difference but first we

728
00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:29,280
have to hear from you if you like this idea.

729
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,383
and it can be on your agenda.

730
00:47:32,383 --> 00:47:34,151
>> thank you, denise.

731
00:47:34,151 --> 00:47:38,122
>> I said this to the sustainability and resilience

732
00:47:38,122 --> 00:47:41,659
task force when denise presented this to us.

733
00:47:41,659 --> 00:47:46,970
the swimming, we are going to keep talking about the

734
00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:50,534
snorkel trail because it is so important to keep the

735
00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:54,939
dream alive that we will be able to encourage swimming

736
00:47:54,939 --> 00:47:56,273
in the bay.

737
00:47:56,273 --> 00:48:01,145
the reality right now is that really, I dove into the

738
00:48:01,145 --> 00:48:03,347
bay about six months ago.

739
00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:06,884
I have done it but it's not advisable.

740
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:07,351
right?

741
00:48:07,351 --> 00:48:09,987
the legislature is considering requiring local

742
00:48:09,987 --> 00:48:13,524
government with water recreation access areas to test

743
00:48:13,524 --> 00:48:17,962
for fecal matter and bacteria you lily and to post

744
00:48:17,962 --> 00:48:21,966
alerts in those areas. Again, this is a legislative

745
00:48:21,966 --> 00:48:26,370
proposal and it may or may not pass during the

746
00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:30,374
legislative session but given what we know about the

747
00:48:30,374 --> 00:48:33,911
effluent from the canals into our immediate offshore

748
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:38,783
waters the snorkel trail is not going to be our first

749
00:48:38,783 --> 00:48:39,216
priority.

750
00:48:39,216 --> 00:48:44,880
we have a lot of work to do with our neighboring

751
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,724
disabilities in miami-dade county's with sewer

752
00:48:46,724 --> 00:48:50,728
conversion for we can move forward on the snorkeling.

753
00:48:50,728 --> 00:48:55,599
>> we don't have to wait for legislation to pass to

754
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,368
start testing our water.

755
00:48:57,368 --> 00:49:02,239
the scientific pillar is going to be to work at fiu

756
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,111
they are the water keepers could we would be able to

757
00:49:07,111 --> 00:49:12,850
say okay, we have a marine park and we are going to do

758
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:18,155
as a university ask you to come and test the water. So

759
00:49:18,155 --> 00:49:23,270
they would be able to see is the water getting worse?

760
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:24,795
is it getting better?

761
00:49:24,795 --> 00:49:29,667
don't have to wait for legislation, we want to do that

762
00:49:29,667 --> 00:49:34,972
on our own because we have a marine park and that's why

763
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:37,208
we want to do it.

764
00:49:37,208 --> 00:49:41,612
we want to know what is happening to our water.

765
00:49:41,612 --> 00:49:43,380
>> bravo madam chair.

766
00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:44,281
thank you.

767
00:49:44,281 --> 00:49:50,200
>> it is 8:00 and we are on the committee part of the

768
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,892
meeting so let's go ahead and bring helen and nick up

769
00:49:54,892 --> 00:50:00,231
from the heart of the bay task force we can have our

770
00:50:00,231 --> 00:50:04,201
branding presentation and work on this since we already

771
00:50:04,201 --> 00:50:08,172
have the open forum so we can move forward.

772
00:50:08,172 --> 00:50:12,610
>> can I make any comments about the previous speaker?

773
00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:18,349
>> I amnick quay and I'm the chair of the heart of the

774
00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:19,250
bay committee.

775
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:20,584
this sounds wonderful.

776
00:50:20,584 --> 00:50:25,456
if everyone backs it and makes it take lace it forces

777
00:50:25,456 --> 00:50:26,757
people to listen.

778
00:50:26,757 --> 00:50:31,195
I think the opportunity there is that it forces people

779
00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:34,732
to listen to another municipality who's doing something

780
00:50:34,732 --> 00:50:35,199
cutting-edge.

781
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:38,736
the scientific part the reporting part becomes public.

782
00:50:38,736 --> 00:50:42,273
sometimes it's difficult to find information on the

783
00:50:42,273 --> 00:50:47,578
water as a paddle border and a swimmer I would love to

784
00:50:47,578 --> 00:50:51,115
swim in the bay but I know better.

785
00:50:51,115 --> 00:50:55,553
the thing is it's hard to get that information doing

786
00:50:55,553 --> 00:50:59,957
something that the city backs doing an official part of

787
00:50:59,957 --> 00:51:03,961
the village is significant because you're going to have

788
00:51:03,961 --> 00:51:08,365
other people who want to do research. As richard said,

789
00:51:08,365 --> 00:51:13,237
other people want a copy and emulate the things that we

790
00:51:13,237 --> 00:51:14,138
are doing.

791
00:51:14,138 --> 00:51:18,108
the more conversations we can have showing them why

792
00:51:18,108 --> 00:51:23,447
it's unique and why it's going to help us all going to

793
00:51:23,447 --> 00:51:28,285
force the state or other people to get our neighbors to

794
00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:30,870
get their act together.

795
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:34,491
a lot of the pollution doesn't come from us. There's

796
00:51:34,491 --> 00:51:37,161
fecal matter and sewage breaks constantly.

797
00:51:37,161 --> 00:51:42,320
money can come from a much higher level if things are

798
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,904
done locally and it takes a group like us like north

799
00:51:46,904 --> 00:51:51,775
bay village to stand up and be the leader and do

800
00:51:51,775 --> 00:51:55,312
something unique and show everyone else it's possible.

801
00:51:55,312 --> 00:52:01,510
I love it, thank you. I know much work she's put on it

802
00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:05,923
because I was on the board with her that first year

803
00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:10,361
it's an amazing project and I think everyone should be

804
00:52:10,361 --> 00:52:11,228
backing it.

805
00:52:11,228 --> 00:52:14,765
>> thank you, nick. Let me appreciate thatand

806
00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:20,104
introduce you as the chair of the part of the bay task

807
00:52:20,104 --> 00:52:20,537
force.

808
00:52:20,537 --> 00:52:25,409
and then helen our staff liaison on the task force and

809
00:52:25,409 --> 00:52:31,148
this is a task force which I have led or help lead or

810
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:35,586
co-lead with residents. If you remember a year ago in

811
00:52:35,586 --> 00:52:40,240
november or december I said let's put together a task

812
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,428
force to work on rebranding the village or giving the

813
00:52:44,428 --> 00:52:45,763
village a brand.

814
00:52:45,763 --> 00:52:50,634
the village, going back in time even to present we have

815
00:52:50,634 --> 00:52:55,939
not had a brand. We've had a logo and a series of

816
00:52:55,939 --> 00:53:01,712
logos and a name and at times a slogan but not a brand

817
00:53:01,712 --> 00:53:02,579
per se.

818
00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:07,885
part of the results of that and also the answer to the

819
00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:12,756
question I have been asked, why rebrand or work on a

820
00:53:12,756 --> 00:53:16,760
rebrand for north bay village and that's to very

821
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,165
clearly establish a sense of identity in place that we

822
00:53:21,165 --> 00:53:25,602
deserve, had, had had in the past and are building

823
00:53:25,602 --> 00:53:29,139
again through our work, things like resiliency, through

824
00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:32,676
things like master planning through things like forward

825
00:53:32,676 --> 00:53:33,577
thinking initiatives.

826
00:53:33,577 --> 00:53:38,449
and so, after two years and three as mayor seems like

827
00:53:38,449 --> 00:53:42,853
the time is right to create that sense of identity.

828
00:53:42,853 --> 00:53:48,158
the first step in creating that is to work on what is

829
00:53:48,158 --> 00:53:49,960
essentially a brand guide.

830
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,798
we started to work on that over the last year along

831
00:53:54,798 --> 00:54:00,137
with the heart of the bay task force with a lot of

832
00:54:00,137 --> 00:54:01,438
leadership from helen.

833
00:54:01,438 --> 00:54:07,211
we put in on of work on this on above and beyond and

834
00:54:07,211 --> 00:54:10,747
certainly not in her job description but much

835
00:54:10,747 --> 00:54:11,181
appreciated.

836
00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:16,487
we have also worked with a company m style who is on

837
00:54:16,487 --> 00:54:21,825
the line now to create what you have in front of you

838
00:54:21,825 --> 00:54:26,697
today which is a rand guide which is really the first

839
00:54:26,697 --> 00:54:31,101
step in the rebrand of north bay village which will

840
00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:35,105
take steps to implement the brand which we have

841
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:35,973
established it.

842
00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:41,278
here we are at a major step which is having a brand

843
00:54:41,278 --> 00:54:45,282
guide to give feedback on and potentially approve and

844
00:54:45,282 --> 00:54:49,253
move forward with this process to properly brand the

845
00:54:49,253 --> 00:54:53,257
village and move forward in establishing that sense of

846
00:54:53,257 --> 00:54:55,250
place and identity nick?

847
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:58,996
>> thank you mayor, commissioners, staff and all the

848
00:54:58,996 --> 00:55:03,867
public at home. This is a project we started over a

849
00:55:03,867 --> 00:55:09,173
year ago at this been a lot of meetings and energy from

850
00:55:09,173 --> 00:55:10,730
the staff.

851
00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:14,945
we created a heart of the bay task force. We met

852
00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:18,916
throughout the year in different places. There was a

853
00:55:18,916 --> 00:55:22,190
community leader survey where all the commissioners

854
00:55:22,190 --> 00:55:26,890
received as well as a little bit of the public which

855
00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:32,196
you guys did a year ago as well and they ask questions

856
00:55:32,196 --> 00:55:34,865
like what do you identify with?

857
00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:37,501
what kind of color, animal, sound?

858
00:55:37,501 --> 00:55:41,380
what makes you think of north bay village?

859
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:46,810
we started off at that and then came up with a plan and

860
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:49,120
really got the public engaged.

861
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,983
we had over tuna people get engaged including staff,

862
00:55:52,983 --> 00:55:54,785
commissioners, consultants as well.

863
00:55:54,785 --> 00:55:57,421
in a very large cumulative projects.

864
00:55:57,421 --> 00:56:02,292
the good news is, what I'm about to show you, 85

865
00:56:02,292 --> 00:56:06,263
percent of everybody surveyed loves where it is right

866
00:56:06,263 --> 00:56:06,730
now.

867
00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:11,134
we did all of the input with the diverse respondents

868
00:56:11,134 --> 00:56:15,138
from kids, seniors and farmers market. We have boots

869
00:56:15,138 --> 00:56:19,543
everywhere every single step of the way there was 20

870
00:56:19,543 --> 00:56:23,981
different innovations of the logo. It's a lot. I like

871
00:56:23,981 --> 00:56:25,315
the first one.

872
00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:28,852
but it's a process. Digital outreach, email blasts,

873
00:56:28,852 --> 00:56:32,389
youtube, the website social media the inspirations, the

874
00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:36,360
biggest thing that people mentioned when nick says what

875
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,231
inspires you to live in north bay village mac what you

876
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:45,669
love about north bay village. It was like a sunset.

877
00:56:45,669 --> 00:56:48,772
the historic architectural vibe, the community at

878
00:56:48,772 --> 00:56:50,540
large, the dolphins, water.

879
00:56:50,540 --> 00:56:55,412
a lot of people like the new art. There's some new

880
00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:59,383
public art installations that we been seeing for the

881
00:56:59,383 --> 00:57:01,151
last year or so.

882
00:57:01,151 --> 00:57:02,486
everybody loved it.

883
00:57:02,486 --> 00:57:06,230
these are the main components that really inspire.

884
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:09,559
personality trait. When everybody was poled, all the

885
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:13,130
participants, the main one was fresh, progressive and

886
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:13,563
friendly.

887
00:57:13,563 --> 00:57:18,435
north bay village has always been that to me. I have

888
00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:22,839
been a resident for the last several years and I

889
00:57:22,839 --> 00:57:25,942
believe it is a very diverse place.

890
00:57:25,942 --> 00:57:30,814
the much diversity we have as many types of people as

891
00:57:30,814 --> 00:57:36,119
the dots on my shirt and that's what we try to embody

892
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,454
on the logo.

893
00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:40,991
the mission statement and the pillars the mission

894
00:57:40,991 --> 00:57:44,528
statement remains the same to serve our diverse

895
00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:47,197
community preserving our natural resources stimulating

896
00:57:47,197 --> 00:57:51,168
economic activity and enhancing the quality of life for

897
00:57:51,168 --> 00:57:54,738
present and future generations the pillars stay the

898
00:57:54,738 --> 00:57:57,808
same it's about livability, zillions and prosperity.

899
00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:02,245
he much everything that the boards have been working on

900
00:58:02,245 --> 00:58:07,551
for the last couple of years we try to embody all of

901
00:58:07,551 --> 00:58:10,220
that and bring voice to it.

902
00:58:10,220 --> 00:58:14,658
the new brand icon is the north bay village dolphin.

903
00:58:14,658 --> 00:58:18,628
the dolphin the inspiration for it comes from community

904
00:58:18,628 --> 00:58:23,660
art. It is a stylized often and it represents the

905
00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:27,370
fragility of the local environment and marine life it

906
00:58:27,370 --> 00:58:30,574
also represents the health of biscayne bay. The

907
00:58:30,574 --> 00:58:34,111
official village slogan would be north bay village,

908
00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:35,879
heart of the bay.

909
00:58:35,879 --> 00:58:40,751
and there we go. This is what the logo looks like.

910
00:58:40,751 --> 00:58:44,755
all the things that inspired everyone that took the

911
00:58:44,755 --> 00:58:48,291
questionnaires, surveys and gave us feedback was an

912
00:58:48,291 --> 00:58:49,626
corporative in this.

913
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:54,464
the roots of the palm tree goes clockwise as the tree

914
00:58:54,464 --> 00:58:57,567
grows larger signifying our commitment to the

915
00:58:57,567 --> 00:58:59,803
resiliency of north bay village.

916
00:58:59,803 --> 00:59:05,542
>> all hop in. This logo is meant to be used for all

917
00:59:05,542 --> 00:59:08,645
marketing and promotionalmaterials. We will get into

918
00:59:08,645 --> 00:59:13,517
the difference between how the logo is used and how the

919
00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:14,851
seal is used.

920
00:59:14,851 --> 00:59:19,723
>> the updated village seal, >> I will speak on this

921
00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:23,693
one pay the seal should be used for alllong-term

922
00:59:23,693 --> 00:59:26,797
village sanctions and activations and also government

923
00:59:26,797 --> 00:59:29,900
documents. It follows best practices that other

924
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:31,668
municipalities use as well.

925
00:59:31,668 --> 00:59:36,540
the a lot of municipalities we don't use the seal for

926
00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:41,411
everything but they will use a logo and that the idea

927
00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:44,470
that we are trying to follow.

928
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:48,510
>> the police badge, there's a couple of different

929
00:59:48,510 --> 00:59:48,485
versions.

930
00:59:48,485 --> 00:59:53,356
if they are in a chipper exciting mood they could use

931
00:59:53,356 --> 00:59:57,761
the color that matches the logo pick the one they

932
00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:02,199
currently have on the badge is the florida seal, the

933
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:03,533
florida lease seal.

934
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:07,504
there's an opportunity to have continuity and flow so

935
01:00:07,504 --> 01:00:09,272
it will all match.

936
01:00:09,272 --> 01:00:14,144
a lot of the offices prefer the more subdued one that

937
01:00:14,144 --> 01:00:16,813
matches the uniform blue and gray.

938
01:00:16,813 --> 01:00:21,251
I think it is a personal preference is like whatever

939
01:00:21,251 --> 01:00:25,222
shoes you are going to wear for the day.

940
01:00:25,222 --> 01:00:29,192
for the north a village anniversary this is a

941
01:00:29,192 --> 01:00:29,659
throwback.

942
01:00:29,659 --> 01:00:34,965
this is an old seal from a long time ago from the

943
01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:35,398
1940s.

944
01:00:35,398 --> 01:00:40,704
we thought it would be a cool idea to bring it back.

945
01:00:40,704 --> 01:00:44,708
a lot of people like throwback thursday, culture and

946
01:00:44,708 --> 01:00:48,678
history and want to know why they're still here.

947
01:00:48,678 --> 01:00:53,116
we've a couple of residents who been here since the

948
01:00:53,116 --> 01:00:53,550
40s.

949
01:00:53,550 --> 01:00:57,870
and in the logo for the advisory board.

950
01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:01,570
there are different parts of the logo and different

951
01:01:01,570 --> 01:01:04,628
things that can be used for different reasons.

952
01:01:04,628 --> 01:01:10,367
this is an easy way to show off what were doing as a

953
01:01:10,367 --> 01:01:14,804
village and as a municipality to give some pride to

954
01:01:14,804 --> 01:01:19,209
each of the boards. The logo would remain the same

955
01:01:19,209 --> 01:01:23,647
bottom name changes based on the name of the board

956
01:01:23,647 --> 01:01:27,183
peered the branding elements like I mentioned before

957
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:31,621
all the photos and things that spoke people it was

958
01:01:31,621 --> 01:01:35,592
about the wave, the dolphins the sunset and the

959
01:01:35,592 --> 01:01:36,260
sunrise.

960
01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:40,300
these are the different colors that we put into

961
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:41,798
bringing you today's logo.

962
01:01:41,798 --> 01:01:42,666
feedback results.

963
01:01:42,666 --> 01:01:47,103
look I said we have 200 active participants plus the

964
01:01:47,103 --> 01:01:50,207
commission village staff advisory board members on

965
01:01:50,207 --> 01:01:51,107
several boards.

966
01:01:51,107 --> 01:01:52,409
residents and consultants.

967
01:01:52,409 --> 01:01:56,846
as I mentioned a while ago 86 percent strongly agreed

968
01:01:56,846 --> 01:02:01,718
with the new logo. The only thing that had a little

969
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:06,156
bit of contention, it's still a clear win the slogan

970
01:02:06,156 --> 01:02:10,994
the heart of the bay is 40 points above everybody else

971
01:02:10,994 --> 01:02:15,865
and I would say that's pretty good. It is double the

972
01:02:15,865 --> 01:02:18,535
following almost triple the other two.

973
01:02:18,535 --> 01:02:23,406
I think that is something that we can handle later but

974
01:02:23,406 --> 01:02:28,278
as a curiosity with a show of hands, this doesn't count

975
01:02:28,278 --> 01:02:33,149
for anything so people in the room do you feel like

976
01:02:33,149 --> 01:02:38,210
this hits 80 percent of what you think north a village

977
01:02:38,210 --> 01:02:39,789
should be represented by?

978
01:02:39,789 --> 01:02:41,124
okay, because of?

979
01:02:41,124 --> 01:02:41,992
>> colors.

980
01:02:41,992 --> 01:02:42,425
>>okay?

981
01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:47,764
>> the fact that it looks like a dolphin in a net.

982
01:02:47,764 --> 01:02:49,966
>> that's a good point.

983
01:02:49,966 --> 01:02:53,690
>> I think the dolphin represents solid.

984
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:55,272
>> my microphone was off.

985
01:02:55,272 --> 01:02:59,242
>> the rest of it and the segmented dolphin?

986
01:02:59,242 --> 01:03:03,680
>> you're talking about the slogan, I like the island

987
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,114
paradise.

988
01:03:04,114 --> 01:03:06,783
>> all of that is doable.

989
01:03:06,783 --> 01:03:10,754
it feedback from the community that echoed that as

990
01:03:10,754 --> 01:03:11,221
well.

991
01:03:11,221 --> 01:03:15,625
86 percent of the pole agreed with it. The segmented

992
01:03:15,625 --> 01:03:19,629
dockdolphin are something that is easy to fix peered

993
01:03:19,629 --> 01:03:24,501
that can be easily filled in and slogans are easy to

994
01:03:24,501 --> 01:03:25,368
mess with.

995
01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:30,240
>> the other thing takes me into a little bit of

996
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,678
question, in a community of 8300 people only 200 have

997
01:03:34,678 --> 01:03:35,111
participated?

998
01:03:35,111 --> 01:03:38,648
you take into consideration the staff and condition

999
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:41,751
give a good 8200 people right there.

1000
01:03:41,751 --> 01:03:45,722
>> were talking about participants above and beyond the

1001
01:03:45,722 --> 01:03:49,726
commission peered that separate. We had 200 from the

1002
01:03:49,726 --> 01:03:55,465
public and then we had on top of that we had another 60

1003
01:03:55,465 --> 01:03:56,366
more including.

1004
01:03:56,366 --> 01:03:58,766
>> that is point 025 percent.

1005
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,440
>> we should have called the commission to help make

1006
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,745
phone calls with us to be called as many people as we

1007
01:04:08,745 --> 01:04:13,616
could to give us feedback peered we had people come out

1008
01:04:13,616 --> 01:04:15,819
to all of the events.

1009
01:04:15,819 --> 01:04:18,488
>> java townhall in a meeting?

1010
01:04:18,488 --> 01:04:24,260
but yes, we did that over the year and we can provide a

1011
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:24,694
list.

1012
01:04:24,694 --> 01:04:29,990
>> let's go ahead and go over the public opportunities

1013
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:29,999
for feedback.

1014
01:04:29,999 --> 01:04:33,536
I would imagine thousands of people were touched.

1015
01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:38,408
it would be short of mailing out a survey basically two

1016
01:04:38,408 --> 01:04:43,279
people. I think a lot of efforts were made why don't

1017
01:04:43,279 --> 01:04:45,480
you go over those.

1018
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,486
>> throughout the year the heart of the bay taskworse

1019
01:04:49,486 --> 01:04:53,456
had the opportunity for residents to display in and

1020
01:04:53,456 --> 01:04:57,427
many residents go out to those meetings. In addition

1021
01:04:57,427 --> 01:05:01,431
to that tried to hit diverse events, hitting diverse

1022
01:05:01,431 --> 01:05:04,670
opportunities for different people to respond.

1023
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:08,710
at national night out had around 500 people there.

1024
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:12,942
that night we had about 50 come to our booth and

1025
01:05:12,942 --> 01:05:16,479
discussed the brand. We made ample opportunities at

1026
01:05:16,479 --> 01:05:21,351
the farmers market at one of our last concerts of the

1027
01:05:21,351 --> 01:05:25,755
year. We also made sure that this was opened digitally

1028
01:05:25,755 --> 01:05:29,759
so that people can respond to the brands online.

1029
01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:34,631
we did do our parts and trying to make this process

1030
01:05:34,631 --> 01:05:38,168
where the public could engage and provide feedback.

1031
01:05:38,168 --> 01:05:43,390
>> one more thing to think of when you ask for

1032
01:05:43,390 --> 01:05:47,477
engagement and something a lot of people we spoke to

1033
01:05:47,477 --> 01:05:52,782
said 11, I like it and some people don't care if it

1034
01:05:52,782 --> 01:05:57,187
changes or not good other people sent love you doing

1035
01:05:57,187 --> 01:06:02,959
keep on doing it but they didn't want to take the 10 to

1036
01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:06,930
15 minutes to sit down and answer questions and

1037
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:07,363
respond.

1038
01:06:07,363 --> 01:06:11,367
to say a couple hundred people not including staff

1039
01:06:11,367 --> 01:06:15,805
members actually took the time to engage and sit down

1040
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:19,776
and have these longer discussions, I think that is

1041
01:06:19,776 --> 01:06:20,643
pretty good.

1042
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:26,850
a lot of people I spoke to did not want to do it. They

1043
01:06:26,850 --> 01:06:29,520
just said we love it.

1044
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,721
that's kind of what it was.

1045
01:06:31,721 --> 01:06:36,159
if you count everybody that was touched it would be

1046
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:37,927
significantly more than 200.

1047
01:06:37,927 --> 01:06:42,799
it's that 200 cared enough for wanted to spend the time

1048
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:47,670
and gave the village time enough to sit down and give

1049
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:48,972
us hard feedback.

1050
01:06:48,972 --> 01:06:53,409
those are the numbers we had peered we didn't count

1051
01:06:53,409 --> 01:06:55,612
every person we spoke to.

1052
01:06:55,612 --> 01:07:00,950
>> I also want to point out that we did think about

1053
01:07:00,950 --> 01:07:04,487
having a specific townhall for branding. Instead we

1054
01:07:04,487 --> 01:07:08,458
pivoted and decided that attendance at other town halls

1055
01:07:08,458 --> 01:07:10,226
are not very high.

1056
01:07:10,226 --> 01:07:14,230
probably get more feedback we met her dispense where

1057
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:18,201
they're already going to village events. That was a

1058
01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:20,870
strategy we decided to use instead.

1059
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:25,742
>> I think that's the right strategy. If you look at

1060
01:07:25,742 --> 01:07:28,811
the stormwater mastertownhall we had zero residents

1061
01:07:28,811 --> 01:07:29,279
attending.

1062
01:07:29,279 --> 01:07:33,683
does that we don't move forward or have support from

1063
01:07:33,683 --> 01:07:35,180
stormwater master plan?

1064
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:36,352
not at all.

1065
01:07:36,352 --> 01:07:40,790
200 per dispense north bay village is a record number

1066
01:07:40,790 --> 01:07:43,426
of participants in terms of feedback.

1067
01:07:43,426 --> 01:07:48,731
if we set the bar at 50 percent of our residents to

1068
01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:52,268
give feedback were simply never going to accomplish

1069
01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:52,735
that.

1070
01:07:52,735 --> 01:07:58,474
>> I do want to open the floor up for any questions or

1071
01:07:58,474 --> 01:08:02,478
answers but before that our consultant, rob, on the

1072
01:08:02,478 --> 01:08:07,784
line and if you like to share a few words, please feel

1073
01:08:07,784 --> 01:08:08,217
free.

1074
01:08:08,217 --> 01:08:10,887
we are an muting you, shortly.

1075
01:08:10,887 --> 01:08:14,424
you have to accept to be in muted.

1076
01:08:14,424 --> 01:08:19,729
>> is a fantastic thing that we are a brand team and

1077
01:08:19,729 --> 01:08:21,640
not a tech.

1078
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,935
I want to thank everybody the team that worked on this,

1079
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:31,240
the mayor as well. We have the honor of being able to

1080
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,678
work on programs such as this and whether it's the

1081
01:08:35,678 --> 01:08:39,215
national park centennial our firm had the opportunity

1082
01:08:39,215 --> 01:08:41,851
to rebrand the san antonio riverwalk.

1083
01:08:41,851 --> 01:08:47,156
we had worked for groups such as the nfl and nhl and

1084
01:08:47,156 --> 01:08:50,259
some of the world's top global brands.

1085
01:08:50,259 --> 01:08:53,796
we've gone through this process with multiple federal

1086
01:08:53,796 --> 01:08:58,234
state municipalities and I think by far you should all

1087
01:08:58,234 --> 01:09:02,205
appreciate from an office standpoint I think this was

1088
01:09:02,205 --> 01:09:05,308
probably the most efficient, well-run brand process

1089
01:09:05,308 --> 01:09:08,411
I've ever seen in a government agency.

1090
01:09:08,411 --> 01:09:13,282
I commend you guys for being able to get through the

1091
01:09:13,282 --> 01:09:17,286
process and we got really concise feedback from the

1092
01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:17,720
community.

1093
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:23,459
for us it was truly an honor to be able to work with

1094
01:09:23,459 --> 01:09:25,695
everybody on this as well.

1095
01:09:25,695 --> 01:09:27,463
>> thank you, rob.

1096
01:09:27,463 --> 01:09:32,769
>> I do want to point out that high 80s acceptance of

1097
01:09:32,769 --> 01:09:34,537
things is very high.

1098
01:09:34,537 --> 01:09:39,842
you are never going to get in a project like this 100

1099
01:09:39,842 --> 01:09:42,945
percent agreement or one hundred percent acceptance

1100
01:09:42,945 --> 01:09:46,916
from anyone on anything. There are elements of the

1101
01:09:46,916 --> 01:09:51,788
brand that I don't care for and appointed out along the

1102
01:09:51,788 --> 01:09:54,457
way it's part of the process.

1103
01:09:54,457 --> 01:09:58,895
it has been a process to determine what other the

1104
01:09:58,895 --> 01:10:02,432
representatives of north they village according to the

1105
01:10:02,432 --> 01:10:06,402
members who have participated in the process? We can't

1106
01:10:06,402 --> 01:10:11,274
put guns to people's heads and make them come out and

1107
01:10:11,274 --> 01:10:15,711
participate but a lot of people did. We have feedback

1108
01:10:15,711 --> 01:10:21,170
in terms of colors, in terms of the feel, in terms of

1109
01:10:21,170 --> 01:10:25,888
all of that to build towards the logo that we have.

1110
01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:30,760
maybe it would be helpful if you went through a little

1111
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,164
bit, for example, what the process was to build the

1112
01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:39,602
logo? It's not just something that people went in and

1113
01:10:39,602 --> 01:10:44,400
rendered a little bit and said how do you likethis?

1114
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,808
how did it work?

1115
01:10:45,808 --> 01:10:51,114
>> rob can definitely add to this but we saw so many

1116
01:10:51,114 --> 01:10:54,217
versions of the logo throughout this process.

1117
01:10:54,217 --> 01:10:58,187
what we started seeing in january, february, it is

1118
01:10:58,187 --> 01:11:02,191
nothing compared to where we are right now. I

1119
01:11:02,191 --> 01:11:06,162
misspoke. In april when we started looking at this.

1120
01:11:06,162 --> 01:11:11,330
easily, think we went back and forth 20 times or so.

1121
01:11:11,330 --> 01:11:14,570
>> I think that might be an understatement.

1122
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:18,541
the brand program that exists right now is really

1123
01:11:18,541 --> 01:11:19,876
indeed a process.

1124
01:11:19,876 --> 01:11:24,313
it came through a labor of that process with real

1125
01:11:24,313 --> 01:11:26,820
feedback along the way.

1126
01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:30,953
he started with a fair amount of research and develop a

1127
01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:34,490
real strategy in conjunction with the village about

1128
01:11:34,490 --> 01:11:39,362
what is the brand supposed to be and what does it

1129
01:11:39,362 --> 01:11:43,799
represent walt making sure we keep a true holistic feel

1130
01:11:43,799 --> 01:11:45,101
to the community.

1131
01:11:45,101 --> 01:11:49,105
and then throughout the way and throughout the process

1132
01:11:49,105 --> 01:11:52,642
making sure we incorporates all the feedback we

1133
01:11:52,642 --> 01:11:57,790
received and all the opinions we received as well as

1134
01:11:57,790 --> 01:12:01,918
making sure that the creative side of this is what the

1135
01:12:01,918 --> 01:12:04,587
program brand is supposed to achieve.

1136
01:12:04,587 --> 01:12:09,892
>> the one thing to keep in mind it's not like anybody

1137
01:12:09,892 --> 01:12:15,198
sat down and said this is what we want on the logo,

1138
01:12:15,198 --> 01:12:19,635
this is an accumulative of months and months and months

1139
01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:23,172
and I can't tell you how many hours.

1140
01:12:23,172 --> 01:12:27,176
this is about feedback and getting feedback appeared if

1141
01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:32,480
it was the mayor or her it would've come out different.

1142
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:36,452
the whole purpose was to do what the community was

1143
01:12:36,452 --> 01:12:36,886
asking.

1144
01:12:36,886 --> 01:12:41,324
what the people were asking for and what they felt

1145
01:12:41,324 --> 01:12:43,993
represented the village this is it.

1146
01:12:43,993 --> 01:12:47,964
if I like it 100 percent does not matter.

1147
01:12:47,964 --> 01:12:51,934
the people spoke, the community spoke and like she

1148
01:12:51,934 --> 01:12:56,806
said, we were aware that holding a town hall with zero

1149
01:12:56,806 --> 01:12:59,410
people there does not work.

1150
01:12:59,410 --> 01:13:03,446
10 percent of participants came to talk about the logo

1151
01:13:03,446 --> 01:13:06,115
and to me that is massive.

1152
01:13:06,115 --> 01:13:11,420
I never go to events that have that it's like when you

1153
01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:16,292
have a conversation about what you want to do with the

1154
01:13:16,292 --> 01:13:16,726
road?

1155
01:13:16,726 --> 01:13:21,597
you're going to be torn down the middle. The fact that

1156
01:13:21,597 --> 01:13:26,350
we have high 80s and an acceptance whether it's my

1157
01:13:26,350 --> 01:13:28,704
version or not the people spoke.

1158
01:13:28,704 --> 01:13:30,600
the community spoke.

1159
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,877
the survey did its job and with rob and everybody they

1160
01:13:34,877 --> 01:13:39,749
kept us in line with how do you really do this?

1161
01:13:39,749 --> 01:13:45,521
it's not what do you want to do the five or six people

1162
01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:50,826
who came to the meeting that was part of it in the

1163
01:13:50,826 --> 01:13:52,595
beginning then it switched.

1164
01:13:52,595 --> 01:13:57,466
this does not look like any of our four or five

1165
01:13:57,466 --> 01:14:01,437
iterations. It came from the community and the people

1166
01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:02,772
in the feedback.

1167
01:14:02,772 --> 01:14:07,643
that's the one thing to keep in mind. The exercise is

1168
01:14:07,643 --> 01:14:12,948
that it is why are we here, what we doing this for?

1169
01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:18,254
what do you guys do this for mac to serve the people

1170
01:14:18,254 --> 01:14:23,592
and take what their needs and wants are and then we can

1171
01:14:23,592 --> 01:14:26,228
do that at a government level.

1172
01:14:26,228 --> 01:14:30,232
>> I appreciate from an eco-standpoint getting to hear

1173
01:14:30,232 --> 01:14:31,100
my name.

1174
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:35,710
but we are 18+ designers working on this, award-winning

1175
01:14:35,710 --> 01:14:39,750
designers that are paired with a strategy and research

1176
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:39,508
team.

1177
01:14:39,508 --> 01:14:43,450
indeed this is not a creative process alone.

1178
01:14:43,450 --> 01:14:47,490
it is a full strategyresearch process that gets infused

1179
01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:51,200
by all of the creative community comments along the

1180
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:51,454
way.

1181
01:14:51,454 --> 01:14:55,458
to everyone's credit at the meeting we have been

1182
01:14:55,458 --> 01:14:59,428
involved in several of these programs especially at the

1183
01:14:59,428 --> 01:15:02,531
government level. The pathway and process and

1184
01:15:02,531 --> 01:15:06,502
exclusivity that is been in this program has been

1185
01:15:06,502 --> 01:15:07,837
amazing to us.

1186
01:15:07,837 --> 01:15:12,274
we seen this managed where they get very sidetracked as

1187
01:15:12,274 --> 01:15:12,708
well.

1188
01:15:12,708 --> 01:15:17,580
I think everyone so far has been very pleased with the

1189
01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:18,130
result.

1190
01:15:18,130 --> 01:15:22,885
>> I will jump in and say that I love it.

1191
01:15:22,885 --> 01:15:24,653
I really love it.

1192
01:15:24,653 --> 01:15:29,525
I think the colors are modern and fresh and I think

1193
01:15:29,525 --> 01:15:33,529
they elicit that positive, friendly vibe that we are

1194
01:15:33,529 --> 01:15:37,500
going for and the survey elicited those top three

1195
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:41,937
things that are resident think of when they think of

1196
01:15:41,937 --> 01:15:43,239
north bay village.

1197
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:48,577
I think having the logo and the seal is a great idea.

1198
01:15:48,577 --> 01:15:53,416
I think the fact that the dolphin is fractured with the

1199
01:15:53,416 --> 01:15:56,986
fragility of the marine life is very poignant.

1200
01:15:56,986 --> 01:15:59,622
unfortunately, I disagree with commissioner richard

1201
01:15:59,622 --> 01:16:04,590
chervony I think it's important and it does match the

1202
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:08,931
existing brand that we do have if we do have any

1203
01:16:08,931 --> 01:16:09,799
existing branding.

1204
01:16:09,799 --> 01:16:14,670
you guys did a great job and I specifically want to

1205
01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:16,906
commend you on the process.

1206
01:16:16,906 --> 01:16:21,777
I have seen on helen's desk a stack of forms that

1207
01:16:21,777 --> 01:16:24,847
people took the time to fill out.

1208
01:16:24,847 --> 01:16:28,384
the quantitative data that you collected and went

1209
01:16:28,384 --> 01:16:31,954
through, that comes from our resident has been

1210
01:16:31,954 --> 01:16:35,925
wonderful in the social media campaign has been very

1211
01:16:35,925 --> 01:16:36,358
fantastic.

1212
01:16:36,358 --> 01:16:41,230
doing this digitally opposed to a town hall we had a

1213
01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:44,767
town hall tonight with the single infrastructure facing

1214
01:16:44,767 --> 01:16:47,436
our community and one person came.

1215
01:16:47,436 --> 01:16:52,308
don't think it's honest for us to say you should have

1216
01:16:52,308 --> 01:16:54,760
done a town hall.

1217
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,470
because we know from experience that there are a

1218
01:16:58,470 --> 01:17:02,485
handful of people who might come to a town hall.

1219
01:17:02,485 --> 01:17:07,356
I applaud you for reaching residents in a way that you

1220
01:17:07,356 --> 01:17:07,790
did.

1221
01:17:07,790 --> 01:17:08,224
bravo.

1222
01:17:08,224 --> 01:17:11,794
I fully support the results of this process.

1223
01:17:11,794 --> 01:17:16,198
>> let me say some thing about this stylized dolphin.

1224
01:17:16,198 --> 01:17:20,202
it is remarkable in the sense that certainly not

1225
01:17:20,202 --> 01:17:24,607
everybody loves it. Others do like it and from a

1226
01:17:24,607 --> 01:17:29,440
branding point of view what you want is unique and

1227
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:29,478
remarkable.

1228
01:17:29,478 --> 01:17:33,482
he pulled don't necessarily want to love something but

1229
01:17:33,482 --> 01:17:35,684
they have to see it.

1230
01:17:35,684 --> 01:17:40,990
the fact that it does represent the fact that we are at

1231
01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:44,960
the heart of a fracturing marine environment that is

1232
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,964
falling apart around us, things that are precious to

1233
01:17:48,964 --> 01:17:53,402
us, marine life, a dolphin that we see swimming every

1234
01:17:53,402 --> 01:17:58,240
day and our role as a city and preserving that and

1235
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,678
holding it together, that icon tells the story of north

1236
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:05,347
bay village without saying a word.

1237
01:18:05,347 --> 01:18:11,860
you can love it or not love it and there are things to

1238
01:18:11,860 --> 01:18:11,520
love.

1239
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,524
who loves the fact that our marine environment is

1240
01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:16,392
falling apart?

1241
01:18:16,392 --> 01:18:22,164
who loves the fact that we have to work so hard to keep

1242
01:18:22,164 --> 01:18:27,360
it together: what I do love about that icon is tells

1243
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,907
that story. It is a story of north bay village 2021

1244
01:18:31,907 --> 01:18:33,676
and I like it.

1245
01:18:33,676 --> 01:18:39,848
>> you know I love it. I love the colors, I am a huge

1246
01:18:39,848 --> 01:18:40,316
fan.

1247
01:18:40,316 --> 01:18:44,720
also even whether this was intentional or not, I know

1248
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:50,590
that there is a similar logo so it already fits in with

1249
01:18:50,590 --> 01:18:54,897
some of the initiatives that are going on here in the

1250
01:18:54,897 --> 01:18:55,364
village.

1251
01:18:55,364 --> 01:18:59,768
and like they said it's vibrant, modern and I think

1252
01:18:59,768 --> 01:19:02,871
that is what it has been missing.

1253
01:19:02,871 --> 01:19:06,875
this commission is representing a new day in the

1254
01:19:06,875 --> 01:19:11,280
village and I think this logo and this brand quantifies

1255
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,615
that very clearly.

1256
01:19:12,615 --> 01:19:13,515
great work!

1257
01:19:13,515 --> 01:19:17,920
>> let me say one more thing that is important.

1258
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,358
rob, how much does it normally cost to develop a

1259
01:19:22,358 --> 01:19:24,560
branding guide to this extent?

1260
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,431
>> to say that this was discounted for the village I

1261
01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:32,101
guess would be a tacky understatement.

1262
01:19:32,101 --> 01:19:36,710
we normally don't start a brand program for usually

1263
01:19:36,710 --> 01:19:39,608
under 70 or $80,000 as a starting point.

1264
01:19:39,608 --> 01:19:44,480
>> you looked into sunny isle beach just did a site

1265
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:48,484
delay similar exercise how much was it for them?

1266
01:19:48,484 --> 01:19:49,351
>> 80,000.

1267
01:19:49,351 --> 01:19:54,223
>> helen, how much are we spending on this you met.

1268
01:19:54,223 --> 01:19:55,124
>> 5000.

1269
01:19:55,124 --> 01:19:55,991
>> what?

1270
01:19:55,991 --> 01:19:57,760
>> thank you rob!

1271
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,227
[laughter]

1272
01:19:58,227 --> 01:19:59,995
>> thank you, rob!

1273
01:19:59,995 --> 01:20:01,764
>> it sounds terrible!

1274
01:20:01,764 --> 01:20:07,690
>> it's our pleasure. I may ask for a round of drinks

1275
01:20:07,690 --> 01:20:09,271
when I get down there.

1276
01:20:09,271 --> 01:20:14,576
some of this is, when I say it's an honor, for someone

1277
01:20:14,576 --> 01:20:18,580
who comes down to that area often whose business

1278
01:20:18,580 --> 01:20:22,985
partners, who are at the restaurants and bars at north

1279
01:20:22,985 --> 01:20:27,423
bay village, it is a pleasure to work with really

1280
01:20:27,423 --> 01:20:31,860
fantastic people on this and that made the process that

1281
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:32,728
much easier.

1282
01:20:32,728 --> 01:20:36,732
we consider ourselves to be an award-winning team for

1283
01:20:36,732 --> 01:20:41,603
what we do and if you guys have an award-winning team

1284
01:20:41,603 --> 01:20:46,442
and staff peered therefore, we are happy to work on it

1285
01:20:46,442 --> 01:20:50,879
and we are happy to be part of the process.

1286
01:20:50,879 --> 01:20:55,317
>> thank you rob and the other person aside from

1287
01:20:55,317 --> 01:20:59,722
obviously the heart of the bay task force and citizens

1288
01:20:59,722 --> 01:21:02,825
that work hard on this is helen.

1289
01:21:02,825 --> 01:21:07,262
I have now dubbed her the director of marketing and

1290
01:21:07,262 --> 01:21:11,700
communications because it is a new feather in your cap.

1291
01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:16,105
wrinkly, you have helped save us somewhere in the range

1292
01:21:16,105 --> 01:21:20,542
of $50-$70,000 through your work on this project and it

1293
01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:24,790
is completely measurable and identifiable and I am

1294
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:26,749
appreciative of the work you've done.

1295
01:21:26,749 --> 01:21:31,153
it is above and beyond your job description and will

1296
01:21:31,153 --> 01:21:35,157
help you professionally but more than you thought you'd

1297
01:21:35,157 --> 01:21:40,896
be asked to do and you took this job a year or less

1298
01:21:40,896 --> 01:21:42,664
than a year ago.

1299
01:21:42,664 --> 01:21:47,970
thank you for your hard work and we could not have done

1300
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:52,841
this without you, without rob and the heart of the bay

1301
01:21:52,841 --> 01:21:53,742
task force.

1302
01:21:53,742 --> 01:21:58,614
>> I will add mayor, having worked with a lot of

1303
01:21:58,614 --> 01:22:02,584
different groups and agencies at front levels I would

1304
01:22:02,584 --> 01:22:07,456
say helen was an agency of one in this regard and

1305
01:22:07,456 --> 01:22:11,460
managed the brand process and it was really impressive

1306
01:22:11,460 --> 01:22:15,430
and it was our pleasure to work with you.

1307
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:16,298
>> ditto.

1308
01:22:16,298 --> 01:22:20,736
>> rob did not try to steal her from us!

1309
01:22:20,736 --> 01:22:21,170
[laughter]

1310
01:22:21,170 --> 01:22:23,405
>> I can't make promises.

1311
01:22:23,405 --> 01:22:23,839
>>fantastic.

1312
01:22:23,839 --> 01:22:27,376
I'm happy to take more feedback or comments.

1313
01:22:27,376 --> 01:22:31,380
again, I do understand it is not 100 percent

1314
01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:32,681
satisfactory to everyone.

1315
01:22:32,681 --> 01:22:37,119
it would be very strange for everyone to like every

1316
01:22:37,119 --> 01:22:37,986
single element.

1317
01:22:37,986 --> 01:22:42,858
or anyone to love every single element out of the range

1318
01:22:42,858 --> 01:22:44,193
we have here.

1319
01:22:44,193 --> 01:22:47,296
>> we are dressedalike tonight and everything!

1320
01:22:47,296 --> 01:22:48,630
metro comes back!

1321
01:22:48,630 --> 01:22:50,399
the bellbottoms go away!

1322
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:53,680
>> hello, I have two words.

1323
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,605
>> art deco is not making a comeback!

1324
01:22:56,605 --> 01:23:01,900
>> I think the miami heat would beg to differ.

1325
01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:06,348
>> here is the reality of it. If you google the top

1326
01:23:06,348 --> 01:23:09,885
trending colors nationally, not this year but everyone

1327
01:23:09,885 --> 01:23:11,653
is calling us modern.

1328
01:23:11,653 --> 01:23:16,525
so, I was born in 1980 but I still remember these

1329
01:23:16,525 --> 01:23:19,161
things and I remember the colors.

1330
01:23:19,161 --> 01:23:24,466
>> the old-timers such as myself and that is why I am

1331
01:23:24,466 --> 01:23:28,470
here to represent the old-timers. I'm the only one

1332
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:33,775
this is a young commission and I am the oldest one. He

1333
01:23:33,775 --> 01:23:35,978
reminds me of art deco.

1334
01:23:35,978 --> 01:23:39,514
that is what I am used to seeing.

1335
01:23:39,514 --> 01:23:43,952
>> a lot of the architecture around herereminds us of

1336
01:23:43,952 --> 01:23:44,386
that.

1337
01:23:44,386 --> 01:23:48,390
>> all of the architecture that is left-

1338
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:53,262
>> were going to have to call kobe carpenter and have

1339
01:23:53,262 --> 01:23:55,300
them bring it back.

1340
01:23:55,300 --> 01:24:00,335
>> all right. We are getting off topic we have a long

1341
01:24:00,335 --> 01:24:03,500
agenda. Can we have a motion?

1342
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:08,310
>> if you need a motion to approve I am making that

1343
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:08,744
motion.

1344
01:24:08,744 --> 01:24:10,946
>> I will second that.

1345
01:24:10,946 --> 01:24:13,615
>> of emotion and a second.

1346
01:24:13,615 --> 01:24:17,586
>> also,please specify which logo you would like to

1347
01:24:17,586 --> 01:24:18,530
adopt.

1348
01:24:18,530 --> 01:24:21,590
>> I can go back if you want.

1349
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:27,329
>> the motion is to approve the heart of the bay is the

1350
01:24:27,329 --> 01:24:27,763
slogan.

1351
01:24:27,763 --> 01:24:29,998
>> I will second that.

1352
01:24:29,998 --> 01:24:33,101
>> I think that is a package.

1353
01:24:33,101 --> 01:24:37,973
with the heart of the bay let's talk about that. It's

1354
01:24:37,973 --> 01:24:42,377
unique in the beginning but we really did, almost for

1355
01:24:42,377 --> 01:24:46,815
that reason make a best effort to find something else.

1356
01:24:46,815 --> 01:24:51,687
we went above and beyond to try to find something that

1357
01:24:51,687 --> 01:24:55,657
was more appropriate and we did not find it.

1358
01:24:55,657 --> 01:25:00,963
>> I will just say, I was on team three island paradise

1359
01:25:00,963 --> 01:25:05,834
at the beginning but I had lunch with horatio and he

1360
01:25:05,834 --> 01:25:10,272
told me where it came from and it reframes everything

1361
01:25:10,272 --> 01:25:14,710
to me. When I was introducing myself at the first

1362
01:25:14,710 --> 01:25:19,114
meeting of the water management board on monday to be

1363
01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:24,419
able to say I represent north a village and we are in

1364
01:25:24,419 --> 01:25:29,291
the heart of the bay it just rolled off the tongue.

1365
01:25:29,291 --> 01:25:34,629
the motion for is for the heart of the bay and to

1366
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:36,398
approve the final result.

1367
01:25:36,398 --> 01:25:37,265
thank you.

1368
01:25:37,265 --> 01:25:38,166
>> seconds.

1369
01:25:38,166 --> 01:25:39,935
>> okay let's vote.

1370
01:25:39,935 --> 01:25:41,703
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld?

1371
01:25:41,703 --> 01:25:43,472
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

1372
01:25:43,472 --> 01:25:44,806
commissioner richard chervony?

1373
01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:47,442
commissioner julianna strout? Mayor brent latham.

1374
01:25:47,442 --> 01:25:48,777
the motion carries.

1375
01:25:48,777 --> 01:25:53,648
>> thank you all for your time and everybody who has

1376
01:25:53,648 --> 01:25:57,185
been helping out with this and thank you.

1377
01:25:57,185 --> 01:26:02,570
>> a footnote to the heart of the bay task force

1378
01:26:02,570 --> 01:26:07,362
because the task of the heart of the bay is to rebrand

1379
01:26:07,362 --> 01:26:12,234
the village I feel like we are at that halfway point.

1380
01:26:12,234 --> 01:26:17,105
we have work to do on the implementation of the brand

1381
01:26:17,105 --> 01:26:21,543
and their is some specific things that need to be

1382
01:26:21,543 --> 01:26:25,947
discussed and agreed upon in the health of the task

1383
01:26:25,947 --> 01:26:28,617
force will be integral in that.

1384
01:26:28,617 --> 01:26:33,550
think this project continues for another 6 to 12 months

1385
01:26:33,550 --> 01:26:37,459
in terms of the implementation of the brand and we

1386
01:26:37,459 --> 01:26:42,798
decide who will be or how the brand will be sorted from

1387
01:26:42,798 --> 01:26:47,636
there on but there's some heavy lifting going on on and

1388
01:26:47,636 --> 01:26:52,507
the members that are present and active and we are now

1389
01:26:52,507 --> 01:26:57,379
at a point we can spend recruiting new members where a

1390
01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:01,817
couple dropped off and my thinking is that we will

1391
01:27:01,817 --> 01:27:06,254
bring in some new members that will be energized by

1392
01:27:06,254 --> 01:27:10,225
this process here the hard work has been done.

1393
01:27:10,225 --> 01:27:14,663
as part of the exciting work of implementing the brand

1394
01:27:14,663 --> 01:27:20,402
and I think we can do that and the task force does its

1395
01:27:20,402 --> 01:27:26,174
work over the next 6 to 12 months and we can look at

1396
01:27:26,174 --> 01:27:29,711
who stores the brand from this point forward.

1397
01:27:29,711 --> 01:27:33,248
fantastic. Thank you. Thank you nick and helen.

1398
01:27:33,248 --> 01:27:38,987
that is 14 b5 and we will jump back. We have not had

1399
01:27:38,987 --> 01:27:42,524
the reports appeared we will have the commission

1400
01:27:42,524 --> 01:27:46,940
reports. Who would like to begin? Any volunteers?

1401
01:27:46,940 --> 01:27:47,863
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

1402
01:27:47,863 --> 01:27:50,932
>> good evening everyone and happy holidays.

1403
01:27:50,932 --> 01:27:52,267
>> happy holidays.

1404
01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:53,602
>> thank you.

1405
01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:58,473
a lot is happened since november and we will build up

1406
01:27:58,473 --> 01:28:03,778
to what I think is one of the most exciting parts of

1407
01:28:03,778 --> 01:28:09,840
the city but the park continues to go well and we had

1408
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,621
questions around potentially expanding it so thank you

1409
01:28:12,621 --> 01:28:17,959
to all of those that do and attend yoga in the park

1410
01:28:17,959 --> 01:28:23,265
it's great to see you in the morning and there was good

1411
01:28:23,265 --> 01:28:27,235
attendance as well for the attendance of the day.

1412
01:28:27,235 --> 01:28:29,400
miami-dade started that event.

1413
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,441
it is great. Were going to have a conversation around

1414
01:28:33,441 --> 01:28:37,879
an ordinance as to the housing ordinance and I will

1415
01:28:37,879 --> 01:28:42,284
speak more on that as we get to that item.

1416
01:28:42,284 --> 01:28:47,589
we are working on a new event. Helen just left but we

1417
01:28:47,589 --> 01:28:52,270
are working on a new event called the stroller derby.

1418
01:28:52,270 --> 01:28:57,332
we have a lot of young and new families on the island

1419
01:28:57,332 --> 01:29:03,538
which I am one of them and every morning I see a lot of

1420
01:29:03,538 --> 01:29:07,509
folks walking throughout the city and they are always

1421
01:29:07,509 --> 01:29:11,790
asking about things to do for their kids.

1422
01:29:11,790 --> 01:29:15,483
were going to have a wellness event that will also

1423
01:29:15,483 --> 01:29:19,487
incorporates some sort of food service and share the

1424
01:29:19,487 --> 01:29:22,557
details over the next couple of weeks.

1425
01:29:22,557 --> 01:29:23,892
that's january 22nd.

1426
01:29:23,892 --> 01:29:28,763
and, then again, north bay village has led the way in

1427
01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:30,999
working together to pass legislation.

1428
01:29:30,999 --> 01:29:35,403
anyone who has been part of the cleanups often times

1429
01:29:35,403 --> 01:29:40,275
you can see the number and the amount of single use

1430
01:29:40,275 --> 01:29:45,146
plastics that are out there that we pick up. I think

1431
01:29:45,146 --> 01:29:48,683
the commissioner is addressing this from the creation

1432
01:29:48,683 --> 01:29:53,989
angle and we are also trying to do that from a business

1433
01:29:53,989 --> 01:29:54,456
perspective.

1434
01:29:54,456 --> 01:29:59,327
we kicked off the initial trial of that last year with

1435
01:29:59,327 --> 01:30:03,298
the help of lame beach. This year eileen higgins

1436
01:30:03,298 --> 01:30:07,736
sponsored the item 305 and that has been adopted where

1437
01:30:07,736 --> 01:30:11,273
advice will be passed to businesses in miami-dade

1438
01:30:11,273 --> 01:30:15,243
county where we can find alternatives to single use

1439
01:30:15,243 --> 01:30:15,677
plastics.

1440
01:30:15,677 --> 01:30:21,160
I know some of the things we are working on here, we

1441
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,420
are very busy on projects and handling things that we

1442
01:30:25,420 --> 01:30:30,292
can handle as a city internally but there's a lot of

1443
01:30:30,292 --> 01:30:35,163
things plastic being one of them that we can do to

1444
01:30:35,163 --> 01:30:39,134
protect the bay that will require help from the

1445
01:30:39,134 --> 01:30:42,704
neighbors and friends locally and regionally. I'm very

1446
01:30:42,704 --> 01:30:46,675
excited to work with miami water keeper under free

1447
01:30:46,675 --> 01:30:50,211
oceans and they are partners with freeing that

1448
01:30:50,211 --> 01:30:53,748
legislation to miami-dade county and seeing that past

1449
01:30:53,748 --> 01:30:55,830
eddie county level.

1450
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:58,186
that started with the sustainability and resilience

1451
01:30:58,186 --> 01:31:02,157
task force which the commissioner was vice chair and

1452
01:31:02,157 --> 01:31:06,594
penny o'brien who is full of nothing but great ideas

1453
01:31:06,594 --> 01:31:10,131
and resources that help champion their efforts and

1454
01:31:10,131 --> 01:31:14,569
continue to live on in the legislation that is passed

1455
01:31:14,569 --> 01:31:18,973
at the regional level and hopefully the state level as

1456
01:31:18,973 --> 01:31:19,441
well.

1457
01:31:19,441 --> 01:31:23,845
thank you all again for that in helping support that

1458
01:31:23,845 --> 01:31:26,514
and that is all I have.

1459
01:31:26,514 --> 01:31:28,283
>>congratulations mr. Vice mayor.

1460
01:31:28,283 --> 01:31:29,184
classic 305.

1461
01:31:29,184 --> 01:31:33,154
I'm really excited that we approve the agreement with

1462
01:31:33,154 --> 01:31:37,592
eagle pods tonight. I think it will be exciting when

1463
01:31:37,592 --> 01:31:41,563
we have a ribbon-cutting ceremony and it would be

1464
01:31:41,563 --> 01:31:46,000
amazing to get some press out of that's that's really

1465
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:46,434
exciting.

1466
01:31:46,434 --> 01:31:49,971
the first meeting of the miami-dade county watershed

1467
01:31:49,971 --> 01:31:53,508
advisory board was monday morning at county commission

1468
01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:53,942
chambers.

1469
01:31:53,942 --> 01:31:57,450
commissioner danielle cohen higgins was elected the

1470
01:31:57,450 --> 01:32:01,483
chair of that board, the mayor of coral gables was

1471
01:32:01,483 --> 01:32:06,354
elected as vice mayor. This 21 seats on the board and

1472
01:32:06,354 --> 01:32:10,325
municipal seats are held by crystal wagoner and north

1473
01:32:10,325 --> 01:32:11,226
bay village.

1474
01:32:11,226 --> 01:32:15,196
a number of other entities are on the board.

1475
01:32:15,196 --> 01:32:18,733
there commissioner moniz seen and sosa marine fisheries

1476
01:32:18,733 --> 01:32:20,502
and the biscayne bay.

1477
01:32:20,502 --> 01:32:24,506
the us department of interior basically has a seats,

1478
01:32:24,506 --> 01:32:28,476
fiu has a seat and a couple of others.

1479
01:32:28,476 --> 01:32:32,480
the meeting moved much more quickly than I anticipated

1480
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:36,885
which was a learning experience for me so, the next

1481
01:32:36,885 --> 01:32:42,190
meeting is in february and I will be more up to speed.

1482
01:32:42,190 --> 01:32:47,620
essentially the goal is going to be to draw down as

1483
01:32:47,620 --> 01:32:51,660
much money from miami-dade county as possible there was

1484
01:32:51,660 --> 01:32:55,360
a request coordinate our talking points when we meet

1485
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,474
with legislators so that we can echo lame date counties

1486
01:32:59,474 --> 01:33:04,345
rarities in the area and the top priority is the sewer

1487
01:33:04,345 --> 01:33:08,316
septic conversion. I will be accepting your work from

1488
01:33:08,316 --> 01:33:12,754
the county on where they are on their set sewer

1489
01:33:12,754 --> 01:33:16,291
conversions actually in the area that except the

1490
01:33:16,291 --> 01:33:20,261
immediate basin and will make it that information I

1491
01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:25,567
would be happy to share it you all. That is that the

1492
01:33:25,567 --> 01:33:29,571
only other thing I have is happy holidays everyone.

1493
01:33:29,571 --> 01:33:34,800
on january 23rd which is the day after the stroller

1494
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,847
derby we are going to have a jampacked weekend of fun

1495
01:33:38,847 --> 01:33:40,615
in north bay village.

1496
01:33:40,615 --> 01:33:45,530
on sunday january 23rd we are having a sunset sundowner

1497
01:33:45,530 --> 01:33:45,487
concert.

1498
01:33:45,487 --> 01:33:49,491
it will take place around sunset at vogel park.

1499
01:33:49,491 --> 01:33:54,796
the band is one of our residents who is in this band,

1500
01:33:54,796 --> 01:33:59,234
court. It's like an 80s, 90s rock bandand they take

1501
01:33:59,234 --> 01:33:59,667
requests.

1502
01:33:59,667 --> 01:34:04,539
I think I said this at the last meeting day take

1503
01:34:04,539 --> 01:34:09,410
requests, stump the band, you can make a request and if

1504
01:34:09,410 --> 01:34:14,282
the band doesn't know how to play, mission or if you

1505
01:34:14,282 --> 01:34:20,210
would like to do a duet I would be open to that and

1506
01:34:20,210 --> 01:34:24,459
hope to see everybody on sunday generate when he third

1507
01:34:24,459 --> 01:34:27,950
singing and dancing at the sunset.

1508
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:28,863
>> go ahead commissioner.

1509
01:34:28,863 --> 01:34:33,301
>> I will do a duet with you commissioner anytime.

1510
01:34:33,301 --> 01:34:37,305
hopefully by then I will be able to walk.

1511
01:34:37,305 --> 01:34:42,143
I just got back surgery on my spine. We had some

1512
01:34:42,143 --> 01:34:46,147
vertebrates removed paired I realized my injury was a

1513
01:34:46,147 --> 01:34:50,585
little more intense than I thought so with the guidance

1514
01:34:50,585 --> 01:34:55,423
and referral of the senator I found a surgeon to help

1515
01:34:55,423 --> 01:34:56,324
with that.

1516
01:34:56,324 --> 01:34:59,861
the resident services board meeting was last night.

1517
01:34:59,861 --> 01:35:05,633
they want to be able to make sure that the needs of the

1518
01:35:05,633 --> 01:35:09,170
residents will be all-encompassing of the age group

1519
01:35:09,170 --> 01:35:10,939
that the city represents.

1520
01:35:10,939 --> 01:35:15,343
making sure we have events for seniors, young kids and

1521
01:35:15,343 --> 01:35:19,781
I feel that it reflects the diversity that we have

1522
01:35:19,781 --> 01:35:21,983
within the commission as well.

1523
01:35:21,983 --> 01:35:27,322
trying to be able to make sure we are handling all the

1524
01:35:27,322 --> 01:35:30,391
needs that the residents have moving forward.

1525
01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:34,829
they are excited about all the things that are upcoming

1526
01:35:34,829 --> 01:35:38,800
hearing about what the commission has been able to

1527
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,804
accomplish in the time that we have been here.

1528
01:35:42,804 --> 01:35:47,241
I also want to commend the city administration on how

1529
01:35:47,241 --> 01:35:49,877
they been decorating the third floor.

1530
01:35:49,877 --> 01:35:54,315
I just other video and everyone's been doing such a

1531
01:35:54,315 --> 01:35:55,183
phenomenal job.

1532
01:35:55,183 --> 01:35:59,621
we are really keeping up with the morale of the

1533
01:35:59,621 --> 01:36:00,540
employees.

1534
01:36:00,540 --> 01:36:04,580
it's wonderful to see that it really shows the

1535
01:36:04,580 --> 01:36:08,930
commodity that we never had in the past and am grateful

1536
01:36:08,930 --> 01:36:14,235
to be part of a team to see that being implemented. So

1537
01:36:14,235 --> 01:36:15,570
thank you again.

1538
01:36:15,570 --> 01:36:19,107
apologize for my absence during this recovery period.

1539
01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:24,412
>> mr. Mayor, it is now a full year I've been serving

1540
01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:27,480
on the north bay island commission.

1541
01:36:27,480 --> 01:36:33,254
when I take a look back at what we plan to work on it

1542
01:36:33,254 --> 01:36:34,155
amazes me.

1543
01:36:34,155 --> 01:36:39,894
we need to take a step back and review all that we have

1544
01:36:39,894 --> 01:36:45,199
asked for and voted for that has been lost in the vast

1545
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:46,100
open space.

1546
01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:50,972
thankfully it is on paper and in the minutes and I

1547
01:36:50,972 --> 01:36:55,843
asked that the staff use it and catch up on the

1548
01:36:55,843 --> 01:37:00,248
projects and activities we have asked for, of hb given

1549
01:37:00,248 --> 01:37:05,119
for all and those that have been approved and fallen by

1550
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:07,355
the wayside placed into action.

1551
01:37:07,355 --> 01:37:11,759
the us coast guard turned down our request to lockdown

1552
01:37:11,759 --> 01:37:15,763
the bridges during rush hour as our request was

1553
01:37:15,763 --> 01:37:18,866
unreasonable and would obstruct navigation on the

1554
01:37:18,866 --> 01:37:19,300
waterway.

1555
01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:24,172
it is important to note that this is a federal project

1556
01:37:24,172 --> 01:37:27,709
waterway extending over 1500 miles from boston to

1557
01:37:27,709 --> 01:37:28,576
florida bay.

1558
01:37:28,576 --> 01:37:33,448
if there is no opposition from my fellow bay members I

1559
01:37:33,448 --> 01:37:37,885
would like to ask legal to draft a resolution report

1560
01:37:37,885 --> 01:37:42,323
for approval at the next meeting whereby we request the

1561
01:37:42,323 --> 01:37:47,628
us coast guard and fdo t two have the opening of the

1562
01:37:47,628 --> 01:37:49,831
bridge during peak roadway hours.

1563
01:37:49,831 --> 01:37:54,702
this is a month full of joyous events as we celebrate

1564
01:37:54,702 --> 01:37:57,371
hanukkah and the tree lighting ceremony.

1565
01:37:57,371 --> 01:38:01,342
the holiday lights around the village have been working

1566
01:38:01,342 --> 01:38:05,313
timely and some additional decorations can be seen at

1567
01:38:05,313 --> 01:38:07,115
the entrance of violence.

1568
01:38:07,115 --> 01:38:10,651
thank you to all who made it possible.

1569
01:38:10,651 --> 01:38:15,560
allow me to remind you that this coming sunday there

1570
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,600
will be a holiday recital led by local resident

1571
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,464
samantha nelly at 5 pm at vogel park. Our winter

1572
01:38:23,464 --> 01:38:27,902
wonderland comes up the following week as we enter the

1573
01:38:27,902 --> 01:38:28,336
holidays.

1574
01:38:28,336 --> 01:38:33,207
throughout the month of december there is a box in the

1575
01:38:33,207 --> 01:38:37,211
lobby for collection of unwrapped toys. Please help us

1576
01:38:37,211 --> 01:38:42,830
put a smile on kids faces this christmas and put one

1577
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:46,921
toy in the box. My thanks to all that make these

1578
01:38:46,921 --> 01:38:51,359
events happen. We do have a full calendar of events

1579
01:38:51,359 --> 01:38:55,797
that happen next year but if there's something you want

1580
01:38:55,797 --> 01:39:00,201
to see, please contact the staff or any of the

1581
01:39:00,201 --> 01:39:00,668
commissioners.

1582
01:39:00,668 --> 01:39:05,973
it has taken north a village 77 years to get to today.

1583
01:39:05,973 --> 01:39:10,845
hearing and seeing some of the plans for our future I'm

1584
01:39:10,845 --> 01:39:13,481
excited to see what is forthcoming.

1585
01:39:13,481 --> 01:39:17,510
on the bridge overhaul, the new construction roadway

1586
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:19,687
improvements new businesses, educational climate and

1587
01:39:19,687 --> 01:39:24,125
social activities it is a win-win situation for all and

1588
01:39:24,125 --> 01:39:29,864
that is why I wanted to join and be part of this dream

1589
01:39:29,864 --> 01:39:30,331
team.

1590
01:39:30,331 --> 01:39:34,735
to my fellow commissioners, thank you for all your hard

1591
01:39:34,735 --> 01:39:36,700
work this year.

1592
01:39:36,700 --> 01:39:40,508
given proven a leader in your own right and specialty

1593
01:39:40,508 --> 01:39:44,478
and that of note wishing commissioner julianna strout a

1594
01:39:44,478 --> 01:39:45,379
speedy recovery.

1595
01:39:45,379 --> 01:39:51,118
to the staff I know I can be rough on you but it's

1596
01:39:51,118 --> 01:39:55,990
because I know you have it in you to accomplish and

1597
01:39:55,990 --> 01:40:00,862
make the place a three island paradise we all wish and

1598
01:40:00,862 --> 01:40:01,295
wants.

1599
01:40:01,295 --> 01:40:04,832
my constituents fellow residents and neighbors in thank

1600
01:40:04,832 --> 01:40:09,270
you your involvement this year and pushing as hard to

1601
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:14,141
get to the point we are today with these lofty goals.

1602
01:40:14,141 --> 01:40:19,130
to one and all I wish you blessings of the season

1603
01:40:19,130 --> 01:40:22,550
filled with health and fun family reunions together

1604
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:24,318
with your loved ones.

1605
01:40:24,318 --> 01:40:30,570
many of us missed that last year I wish you a year full

1606
01:40:30,570 --> 01:40:34,929
of goodness and progress of the film it is very happy

1607
01:40:34,929 --> 01:40:36,264
and productive 2022.

1608
01:40:36,264 --> 01:40:37,164
thank you.

1609
01:40:37,164 --> 01:40:39,800
>> thank you commissioner richard chervony.

1610
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,238
I will make mine brief. First of all, the christmas

1611
01:40:44,238 --> 01:40:49,110
lights are up and they look great. This is the first

1612
01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:53,800
year that I remember not getting negative feedback on

1613
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,518
christmas lights. In fact, they look so good that I

1614
01:40:57,518 --> 01:41:01,489
would like to see them up all year long.

1615
01:41:01,489 --> 01:41:02,823
you look wonderful.

1616
01:41:02,823 --> 01:41:03,724
[cross talk]

1617
01:41:03,724 --> 01:41:08,596
>> I don't like to spend money on christmas lights but

1618
01:41:08,596 --> 01:41:11,232
these christmas lights look really good.

1619
01:41:11,232 --> 01:41:13,000
they look really nice.

1620
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:18,306
thanks to the whole staff and I know that megan had a

1621
01:41:18,306 --> 01:41:21,876
big role in that and it looks good.

1622
01:41:21,876 --> 01:41:26,280
thank you. It looks wonderful and I haven't heard a

1623
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:27,181
single complaint.

1624
01:41:27,181 --> 01:41:32,530
we had a bunch of good events as usual, thank you,

1625
01:41:32,530 --> 01:41:36,230
helen, for organizing and madeleine and carla and the

1626
01:41:36,230 --> 01:41:39,560
police always being present to provide safety and

1627
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:39,994
security.

1628
01:41:39,994 --> 01:41:44,432
alleges levitt. I was at the christmas events and the

1629
01:41:44,432 --> 01:41:49,303
kids were happy and when the kids are happy the parents

1630
01:41:49,303 --> 01:41:54,175
are happy and there's a lot of good stuff going on.

1631
01:41:54,175 --> 01:41:59,460
I had an epiphany moment when one of the dad expressed

1632
01:41:59,460 --> 01:42:03,170
his appreciation for the christmas event and said we

1633
01:42:03,170 --> 01:42:07,210
will see you tomorrow morning at north bay village

1634
01:42:07,210 --> 01:42:07,455
soccer.

1635
01:42:07,455 --> 01:42:09,657
that's community stuff right there.

1636
01:42:09,657 --> 01:42:14,950
that is what communities are made of is stuff for

1637
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:15,429
people to do.

1638
01:42:15,429 --> 01:42:20,301
we are making a lot of headway in terms of bringing

1639
01:42:20,301 --> 01:42:23,371
people together and that is really important.

1640
01:42:23,371 --> 01:42:27,808
another part of bringing people together is to have the

1641
01:42:27,808 --> 01:42:30,110
space to bring people together.

1642
01:42:30,110 --> 01:42:33,581
we are utilizing the dog park waterfront dust

1643
01:42:33,581 --> 01:42:34,150
wonderful.

1644
01:42:34,150 --> 01:42:38,452
we are building more spaces and and we build more

1645
01:42:38,452 --> 01:42:42,857
spaces we can bring more people together and have more

1646
01:42:42,857 --> 01:42:43,290
programming.

1647
01:42:43,290 --> 01:42:44,625
it is wonderful.

1648
01:42:44,625 --> 01:42:48,162
everyone keep up the good work, commissioners keep

1649
01:42:48,162 --> 01:42:51,732
pumping out those community events, it's awesome. I

1650
01:42:51,732 --> 01:42:56,570
have one coming up on the 19th, sunday the 19th which

1651
01:42:56,570 --> 01:43:00,574
is the recognition of pakistani victory day which is

1652
01:43:00,574 --> 01:43:03,210
essentially their independence day, I'm sorry,

1653
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:04,545
bangladesh. I'm sorry.

1654
01:43:04,545 --> 01:43:06,313
bangladesh independence from pakistan.

1655
01:43:06,313 --> 01:43:11,185
this is an event that the angle? Community in north

1656
01:43:11,185 --> 01:43:16,570
bay village brought to me asking us to make this event

1657
01:43:16,570 --> 01:43:16,957
a reality.

1658
01:43:16,957 --> 01:43:21,829
and so, I sponsored it and help them out but is

1659
01:43:21,829 --> 01:43:25,800
something that they are putting together and they are

1660
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:31,105
going to execute it at vogel park and were going to do

1661
01:43:31,105 --> 01:43:36,410
it together as a community and I hope there are a lot

1662
01:43:36,410 --> 01:43:40,848
of community burrs who are not bangladesh will join us

1663
01:43:40,848 --> 01:43:44,385
to bring the community together more and more.

1664
01:43:44,385 --> 01:43:48,389
>> I thought you were spontaneously adding events for

1665
01:43:48,389 --> 01:43:49,256
next week.

1666
01:43:49,256 --> 01:43:52,359
>> no no, it's on the calendar.

1667
01:43:52,359 --> 01:43:55,290
>> the other event was referenced.

1668
01:43:55,290 --> 01:43:55,896
>> rights.

1669
01:43:55,896 --> 01:44:01,202
please come out and join us for that that's all I have

1670
01:44:01,202 --> 01:44:06,730
for now. I have a couple of questions for the manager

1671
01:44:06,730 --> 01:44:10,945
but I will ask them during the manager report here do

1672
01:44:10,945 --> 01:44:14,915
we have a village attorney report? All right let's

1673
01:44:14,915 --> 01:44:18,919
have the manager report which is essentially going to

1674
01:44:18,919 --> 01:44:20,254
be a question.

1675
01:44:20,254 --> 01:44:24,225
>> briefly I want towelcome the commissioner that we

1676
01:44:24,225 --> 01:44:28,662
are all thinking about you and keeping you in our

1677
01:44:28,662 --> 01:44:29,960
prayers.

1678
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,968
I want to congratulate the mayor and helen on all the

1679
01:44:33,968 --> 01:44:38,839
work they've done on the harbor bay task force over the

1680
01:44:38,839 --> 01:44:43,711
last few months. I know it takes a lot of time,

1681
01:44:43,711 --> 01:44:47,248
thought and community engagement so thank you and

1682
01:44:47,248 --> 01:44:50,351
congratulations for that. I want to congratulate

1683
01:44:50,351 --> 01:44:53,454
commissioner richard chervony on the bridge issue.

1684
01:44:53,454 --> 01:44:56,991
even though the outcome wasn't exactly what everyone

1685
01:44:56,991 --> 01:45:01,395
had hoped for I think it is a good solution.

1686
01:45:01,395 --> 01:45:06,267
we are happy to put together the resolution on that and

1687
01:45:06,267 --> 01:45:11,605
I could work out very well. And certainly it is a big

1688
01:45:11,605 --> 01:45:14,241
and if it to the residence.

1689
01:45:14,241 --> 01:45:18,245
good work on that. I know it's something even

1690
01:45:18,245 --> 01:45:20,447
passionate for a long time.

1691
01:45:20,447 --> 01:45:25,319
I want to announce in case it wasn't too obvious this

1692
01:45:25,319 --> 01:45:29,290
is something we started doing during this past meeting

1693
01:45:29,290 --> 01:45:33,727
was a recommendation that we had made at a recent

1694
01:45:33,727 --> 01:45:37,698
manager retreat which we make for our agenda items

1695
01:45:37,698 --> 01:45:41,702
whenever appropriate and in the vast majority of cases

1696
01:45:41,702 --> 01:45:47,700
it will be have asked the staff to put in towards the

1697
01:45:47,700 --> 01:45:51,879
end of the item which of the 100 pillars it reflects.

1698
01:45:51,879 --> 01:45:56,750
if you look, it will explain if an item supports the

1699
01:45:56,750 --> 01:45:59,853
goal of visibility or resilience or prosperity.

1700
01:45:59,853 --> 01:46:04,258
we added 1/4 one because not everything fits into those

1701
01:46:04,258 --> 01:46:06,260
categories which is efficiency.

1702
01:46:06,260 --> 01:46:08,696
sometimes it's about streamlining processes, making

1703
01:46:08,696 --> 01:46:12,666
things easy for everyone in getting the government to

1704
01:46:12,666 --> 01:46:17,104
cut through the red tape when possible. I want to

1705
01:46:17,104 --> 01:46:20,641
thank the staff for incorporating that and that's

1706
01:46:20,641 --> 01:46:25,790
something that we will use moving forward that we are

1707
01:46:25,790 --> 01:46:29,490
using these four goals in support of the commission.

1708
01:46:29,490 --> 01:46:33,487
and finally, in case folks didn't see it we were

1709
01:46:33,487 --> 01:46:37,458
awarded the long coveted $1000 landscape grant for the

1710
01:46:37,458 --> 01:46:41,896
causeway and we were ranked first in the state of

1711
01:46:41,896 --> 01:46:46,300
florida. I want to thank everybody who helped out with

1712
01:46:46,300 --> 01:46:50,738
that and because we kept this in-house we saved grant

1713
01:46:50,738 --> 01:46:51,639
writing fees.

1714
01:46:51,639 --> 01:46:53,407
we are very thrilled.

1715
01:46:53,407 --> 01:46:57,378
this is pretty transformative because we do have a

1716
01:46:57,378 --> 01:47:01,815
required match which we budgeted this year so we are

1717
01:47:01,815 --> 01:47:05,352
talking about over tuna thousand dollars of landscaping

1718
01:47:05,352 --> 01:47:06,687
for the causeway.

1719
01:47:06,687 --> 01:47:11,992
the timing of the project is that we have to get the

1720
01:47:11,992 --> 01:47:17,298
time timing from them before we can do work, we do more

1721
01:47:17,298 --> 01:47:21,735
formal designs etc. We should be done in the summer.

1722
01:47:21,735 --> 01:47:27,474
this is going to be a big deal and we are very happy

1723
01:47:27,474 --> 01:47:28,375
about it.

1724
01:47:28,375 --> 01:47:32,780
that's it for me and I'm happy to answer some

1725
01:47:32,780 --> 01:47:33,247
questions.

1726
01:47:33,247 --> 01:47:35,883
>> I do have a couple.

1727
01:47:35,883 --> 01:47:40,754
we observed trash pickup and I know we have it on

1728
01:47:40,754 --> 01:47:44,758
thanksgiving and in the past during christmas as well

1729
01:47:44,758 --> 01:47:50,640
and in the past you said the workers like to work those

1730
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:50,497
days?

1731
01:47:50,497 --> 01:47:54,935
>> they like to work those days because they get

1732
01:47:54,935 --> 01:47:58,472
overtime and then they get other days off.

1733
01:47:58,472 --> 01:48:01,575
I think folks deserve a day off.

1734
01:48:01,575 --> 01:48:07,314
next I would like to see them take the day off if they

1735
01:48:07,314 --> 01:48:13,870
want to. I think we can skip a trash day at least in

1736
01:48:13,870 --> 01:48:17,570
the residential homes and have the trash picked up

1737
01:48:17,570 --> 01:48:21,929
three days later so people can have those days off with

1738
01:48:21,929 --> 01:48:25,320
their families if that's what they want.

1739
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,668
I would like to see that.

1740
01:48:27,668 --> 01:48:32,973
I had asked you about in the past and it's come up

1741
01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:36,977
again recently from a neighbor who wants to improve

1742
01:48:36,977 --> 01:48:40,514
their home substantially about the question of assessed

1743
01:48:40,514 --> 01:48:44,485
value versus structural value on the taxes you remember

1744
01:48:44,485 --> 01:48:48,550
this conversation? In terms of the miami-dade property

1745
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:52,459
tax appraiser when you look at your property taxes you

1746
01:48:52,459 --> 01:48:56,897
have two values the structural value of your home and

1747
01:48:56,897 --> 01:49:00,000
in the total value of your property.

1748
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:04,405
for many houses in north bay village especially the old

1749
01:49:04,405 --> 01:49:07,508
ones the structural value is extremely low.

1750
01:49:07,508 --> 01:49:11,440
there is some confusion among architects and experts

1751
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:15,480
and I'm certainly not one about which value triggers

1752
01:49:15,480 --> 01:49:18,152
the 50 percent enhancement of a property.

1753
01:49:18,152 --> 01:49:20,788
>> it is the structural value.

1754
01:49:20,788 --> 01:49:21,688
>> right.

1755
01:49:21,688 --> 01:49:26,560
to me this is an issue. Is that determined by city

1756
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:27,861
statute or county?

1757
01:49:27,861 --> 01:49:30,970
>> no, it is fema.

1758
01:49:30,970 --> 01:49:35,402
>> to me this is becoming an issue in north bay village

1759
01:49:35,402 --> 01:49:38,505
because the structural values are very low.

1760
01:49:38,505 --> 01:49:40,707
there are homes, for example.

1761
01:49:40,707 --> 01:49:42,943
>> we are very low.

1762
01:49:42,943 --> 01:49:48,682
we are in an ae zone in a special flood hazard area and

1763
01:49:48,682 --> 01:49:52,219
that's why these rules apply to the properties.

1764
01:49:52,219 --> 01:49:56,657
>> there are homes that have sold in the multimillions

1765
01:49:56,657 --> 01:50:01,610
of dollars that people would like to improve but not

1766
01:50:01,610 --> 01:50:05,650
destroyed by the structural value is like $100,000 or

1767
01:50:05,650 --> 01:50:08,602
$150,000 so it is essentially impossible under the

1768
01:50:08,602 --> 01:50:12,573
standards to improve them. Is this not an issue?

1769
01:50:12,573 --> 01:50:16,577
>> f certainly heard from realtors and homeowners that

1770
01:50:16,577 --> 01:50:18,345
it is an issue.

1771
01:50:18,345 --> 01:50:23,650
the one property owner that I spoke to I had said, I

1772
01:50:23,650 --> 01:50:28,880
advised him to work with his contractors to address the

1773
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,290
issue which I believe happened.

1774
01:50:30,290 --> 01:50:35,162
I don't know how much control we have over this. Right?

1775
01:50:35,162 --> 01:50:37,364
this is how insurance works.

1776
01:50:37,364 --> 01:50:37,798
right?

1777
01:50:37,798 --> 01:50:40,467
the goal is to manage risk.

1778
01:50:40,467 --> 01:50:45,339
if the structure is only worth $100,000 it's got to be

1779
01:50:45,339 --> 01:50:50,644
some sort of reflection of how old it is and where it's

1780
01:50:50,644 --> 01:50:55,820
located and what not and that it makes it more

1781
01:50:55,820 --> 01:50:56,416
vulnerable to flooding.

1782
01:50:56,416 --> 01:51:00,821
the policy between the fema 50 percent rule is to

1783
01:51:00,821 --> 01:51:04,825
basically force owners to ring their property up to

1784
01:51:04,825 --> 01:51:10,130
base flood elevation and again we are in an ae zone in

1785
01:51:10,130 --> 01:51:14,568
a special flood hazard area so we have these required

1786
01:51:14,568 --> 01:51:15,869
base flood elevations.

1787
01:51:15,869 --> 01:51:20,741
I think the fema 50 percent rule is accurate and I

1788
01:51:20,741 --> 01:51:25,178
think is how insurance works, he of actuaries whose job

1789
01:51:25,178 --> 01:51:30,500
it is to generate the actual cost of things. In south

1790
01:51:30,500 --> 01:51:33,587
florida don't really generate the actual cost of

1791
01:51:33,587 --> 01:51:38,458
living. I think a perfect example of that is the right

1792
01:51:38,458 --> 01:51:41,995
of condominium associations to waive reserves and not

1793
01:51:41,995 --> 01:51:46,433
pay for maintenance and repairs for 40 years until they

1794
01:51:46,433 --> 01:51:47,734
have together certification.

1795
01:51:47,734 --> 01:51:52,606
right mac the fema 50 percent rule is in place because

1796
01:51:52,606 --> 01:51:56,610
we absolutely need to know the actual cost of

1797
01:51:56,610 --> 01:51:57,440
insurance.

1798
01:51:57,440 --> 01:52:00,147
having property owners elevate the properties when

1799
01:52:00,147 --> 01:52:04,117
they're doing improvement is a way to do that.

1800
01:52:04,117 --> 01:52:09,890
it is not our role but I think it is there for a

1801
01:52:09,890 --> 01:52:10,324
reason.

1802
01:52:10,324 --> 01:52:15,195
with that said, the flood maps are going to be changing

1803
01:52:15,195 --> 01:52:18,732
and this might be different in a year.

1804
01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:20,934
>> the commissioner is right.

1805
01:52:20,934 --> 01:52:25,806
everything you said I would echo. Let's take a look at

1806
01:52:25,806 --> 01:52:31,144
the fema roles to see what we can delve into more with

1807
01:52:31,144 --> 01:52:35,549
this 50 percent enhancement. If there are any sort of

1808
01:52:35,549 --> 01:52:37,784
exceptions that we can explore.

1809
01:52:37,784 --> 01:52:42,189
>> I would like to give people advice on this.

1810
01:52:42,189 --> 01:52:46,193
you know? I don't only understand this. It sounds

1811
01:52:46,193 --> 01:52:49,730
like commissioner rachel streitfeld does and if we

1812
01:52:49,730 --> 01:52:54,134
could get a referral from a commissioner or two as

1813
01:52:54,134 --> 01:52:55,350
common practice?

1814
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:59,600
it seems counterintuitive to me that a resident could

1815
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:03,877
pay many millions of dollars for a house and then have

1816
01:53:03,877 --> 01:53:08,315
their structure valued at something in the range of low

1817
01:53:08,315 --> 01:53:11,418
hundred thousand for a two-story 400,000 square-foot

1818
01:53:11,418 --> 01:53:14,955
excuse me 4000 square-foot house which you cannot

1819
01:53:14,955 --> 01:53:16,723
rebuild in miami today.

1820
01:53:16,723 --> 01:53:18,580
it's not unreasonable.

1821
01:53:18,580 --> 01:53:24,231
the whole thing does not add up to me but I must not be

1822
01:53:24,231 --> 01:53:26,466
factoring in all the details.

1823
01:53:26,466 --> 01:53:30,437
>>your basing that on risk and insurance more than

1824
01:53:30,437 --> 01:53:31,338
anything else.

1825
01:53:31,338 --> 01:53:35,308
I think you know an architect to specializes in

1826
01:53:35,308 --> 01:53:39,279
historic properties that you might able to refer to

1827
01:53:39,279 --> 01:53:39,746
someone.

1828
01:53:39,746 --> 01:53:45,520
>> can you refer the name to you. Whether I agree with

1829
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:51,258
it or not it is a fema policy but I would like to be

1830
01:53:51,258 --> 01:53:56,129
able to explain it to people and refer them to the

1831
01:53:56,129 --> 01:53:56,997
correct sources.

1832
01:53:56,997 --> 01:54:01,100
>> at a minimum we could create a policy.

1833
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:05,839
>> let's keep it on the radar screen because it's a

1834
01:54:05,839 --> 01:54:11,178
second time I've been asked and it will be the last as

1835
01:54:11,178 --> 01:54:16,490
people start to move into their new homes and want to

1836
01:54:16,490 --> 01:54:16,917
improve them.

1837
01:54:16,917 --> 01:54:18,685
I have one more.

1838
01:54:18,685 --> 01:54:22,689
we have done a good job communicating the harbour

1839
01:54:22,689 --> 01:54:25,325
island parking policy thank you, helen.

1840
01:54:25,325 --> 01:54:28,862
I've gotten some initial feedback on both sides.

1841
01:54:28,862 --> 01:54:34,167
my gut instinct on this is that it is going to be

1842
01:54:34,167 --> 01:54:37,738
troublesome at first because people don't love change.

1843
01:54:37,738 --> 01:54:43,430
what is going to be good in the mid-run, in the long

1844
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:47,447
run because it should open up working spaces to those

1845
01:54:47,447 --> 01:54:51,451
people who need them. I am okay with it.

1846
01:54:51,451 --> 01:54:55,856
one feedback that I've gotten that I'm sensitive to his

1847
01:54:55,856 --> 01:54:59,860
not from one but multiple resident saying what, the

1848
01:54:59,860 --> 01:55:04,731
recent park on the street, the people who park on the

1849
01:55:04,731 --> 01:55:09,136
street on harbour island are not the most affluent of

1850
01:55:09,136 --> 01:55:12,706
the northbay village community. An increase from$25 to

1851
01:55:12,706 --> 01:55:17,110
$100 might seem insignificant to you and me because it

1852
01:55:17,110 --> 01:55:21,982
is $0.30 a day might affect, this policy might be a

1853
01:55:21,982 --> 01:55:26,419
little more regressive than we might like in terms of

1854
01:55:26,419 --> 01:55:30,824
going from 25 to 100. I would suggest considering I

1855
01:55:30,824 --> 01:55:35,262
don't remember but I think we can provide the economics

1856
01:55:35,262 --> 01:55:36,596
of the intake.

1857
01:55:36,596 --> 01:55:41,902
if there is an adjustment that can be made in the first

1858
01:55:41,902 --> 01:55:47,207
year ago to 50 instead of 100 and then maybe raise the

1859
01:55:47,207 --> 01:55:51,645
second car or additional car to offset that, I would

1860
01:55:51,645 --> 01:55:55,615
recommend we adopt that to prevent burdening those who

1861
01:55:55,615 --> 01:55:59,152
could least afford it with a large increase.

1862
01:55:59,152 --> 01:56:04,491
>> a couple of things and I know we are sensitive to

1863
01:56:04,491 --> 01:56:04,925
that.

1864
01:56:04,925 --> 01:56:08,895
we have already started collecting money based on the

1865
01:56:08,895 --> 01:56:12,432
rate that have already been put out there.

1866
01:56:12,432 --> 01:56:17,771
but maybe if you already had a decal and pay the $25

1867
01:56:17,771 --> 01:56:19,539
you received a credit.

1868
01:56:19,539 --> 01:56:23,944
the $100 has actually been changed to $75 because it's

1869
01:56:23,944 --> 01:56:28,815
for the people who already had a decal now have a

1870
01:56:28,815 --> 01:56:29,282
permit.

1871
01:56:29,282 --> 01:56:35,210
>> I'm sorry, if you paid for 2021 you get a to five

1872
01:56:35,210 --> 01:56:36,790
dollar credit for 2022?

1873
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:42,950
>> if you already have somebody who has a decal, if you

1874
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:47,400
are in the last series of boats, we gave you that $25

1875
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:47,868
credit.

1876
01:56:47,868 --> 01:56:52,739
so you actually pay 75 not the whole 100 and additions

1877
01:56:52,739 --> 01:56:56,276
that we haven't charged for over a year.

1878
01:56:56,276 --> 01:56:58,676
>> you didn't charge for 2020?

1879
01:56:58,912 --> 01:56:59,379
>>right.

1880
01:56:59,379 --> 01:57:04,251
it has been a bit. Understand change is never easy but

1881
01:57:04,251 --> 01:57:07,787
it's been really affordable for a long time.

1882
01:57:07,787 --> 01:57:12,659
>> I'm not saying not affordable I just feel like it's

1883
01:57:12,659 --> 01:57:17,530
compelling to me to say that the people who can least

1884
01:57:17,530 --> 01:57:23,270
afford it are the ones that are asked to pay it and I

1885
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:25,380
think that is true.

1886
01:57:25,380 --> 01:57:29,476
but I think it's worthwhile to have a discussion about

1887
01:57:29,476 --> 01:57:29,910
affordability.

1888
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:33,880
I'm hearing from more and more residents about the

1889
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:37,450
affordability issues in northbay village. We all know

1890
01:57:37,450 --> 01:57:40,860
that the housing market is wild.

1891
01:57:40,860 --> 01:57:44,524
the buyers market is wild but the rental market is

1892
01:57:44,524 --> 01:57:45,392
really crazy.

1893
01:57:45,392 --> 01:57:50,697
I heard a story of someone who lives in, and north a

1894
01:57:50,697 --> 01:57:54,267
village resident whose rent has been raised three

1895
01:57:54,267 --> 01:57:54,701
times.

1896
01:57:54,701 --> 01:58:00,600
I would like for us to have a discussion about what we

1897
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,977
can do if anything to help residents with these

1898
01:58:03,977 --> 01:58:04,878
affordability issues.

1899
01:58:04,878 --> 01:58:09,316
and so, I understand that we've already gone out and

1900
01:58:09,316 --> 01:58:13,720
people are paying a certain price but if we could

1901
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:18,592
revisit, if you are living in a legacy building and you

1902
01:58:18,592 --> 01:58:23,897
are a couple in a one bedroom that's $250 for you to

1903
01:58:23,897 --> 01:58:25,231
park your cars.

1904
01:58:25,231 --> 01:58:30,103
I think we should do the best we can if there's

1905
01:58:30,103 --> 01:58:31,871
anything we can do.

1906
01:58:31,871 --> 01:58:37,644
>> do you know, do you have a sense of how may people

1907
01:58:37,644 --> 01:58:42,480
who have bought the decals for next year? We literally

1908
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,284
just released the program, right?

1909
01:58:44,284 --> 01:58:46,520
>> number she's talkingindividuals.

1910
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:47,821
>> okay, I see.

1911
01:58:47,821 --> 01:58:52,225
I met with the residents today that it artie bought

1912
01:58:52,225 --> 01:58:52,692
those.

1913
01:58:52,692 --> 01:58:55,328
>> has anyone else gotten feedback?

1914
01:58:55,328 --> 01:58:59,766
>> if a person has a problemaffording the parking can

1915
01:58:59,766 --> 01:59:04,204
we break up the parking into two payments for quarterly

1916
01:59:04,204 --> 01:59:06,406
payments to make it easier?

1917
01:59:06,406 --> 01:59:08,608
>> that we could do.

1918
01:59:08,608 --> 01:59:12,612
that is probably the easiest solution to implement that

1919
01:59:12,612 --> 01:59:17,917
we collect half of the fee, the fee is set were not

1920
01:59:17,917 --> 01:59:21,888
changing that we collect the payment over two payments

1921
01:59:21,888 --> 01:59:25,892
six months apart or something to give them some

1922
01:59:25,892 --> 01:59:26,760
breathing room.

1923
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:31,631
>> that would be my suggestion. I know we've done a

1924
01:59:31,631 --> 01:59:36,503
lot of messaging around that issue, we had a lot of

1925
01:59:36,503 --> 01:59:40,400
conversations and we start playing around with costing

1926
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,374
at this moment.

1927
01:59:41,374 --> 01:59:45,812
we could open another can of worms and an equally

1928
01:59:45,812 --> 01:59:49,349
sensitive to pricing concerns. I hear them around

1929
01:59:49,349 --> 01:59:53,753
residents who are renting and owning which is why a

1930
01:59:53,753 --> 01:59:57,757
push so hard on this housing ordinance and again

1931
01:59:57,757 --> 02:00:01,728
discuss it more when we can have the conversation.

1932
02:00:01,728 --> 02:00:06,166
we all have costs that we have to think about.

1933
02:00:06,166 --> 02:00:11,370
we have to charge people and I am also very sensitive

1934
02:00:11,370 --> 02:00:15,909
that it is a great alternative to make changes to the

1935
02:00:15,909 --> 02:00:20,313
cost and I think it allows folks more flexibility in

1936
02:00:20,313 --> 02:00:22,982
terms of a lump sum payment.

1937
02:00:22,982 --> 02:00:27,420
>> we can implement that if that is the general

1938
02:00:27,420 --> 02:00:27,854
consensus.

1939
02:00:27,854 --> 02:00:31,825
if it doesn't require changing the fee schedule that's

1940
02:00:31,825 --> 02:00:33,159
just best practice.

1941
02:00:33,159 --> 02:00:34,928
>> let's do that.

1942
02:00:34,928 --> 02:00:36,696
let's message the residents.

1943
02:00:36,696 --> 02:00:40,700
>> let's keep track of the comments and conversations

1944
02:00:40,700 --> 02:00:45,105
that we are hearing. Every year we think through these

1945
02:00:45,105 --> 02:00:45,572
fees.

1946
02:00:45,572 --> 02:00:50,410
>> we've been talking about it for so long that the

1947
02:00:50,410 --> 02:00:55,281
feedback has been fine and folks of been coming up with

1948
02:00:55,281 --> 02:00:57,951
the amount for their entire building.

1949
02:00:57,951 --> 02:01:01,540
>> it always causes a little consolation.

1950
02:01:01,540 --> 02:01:05,925
>> mr. Manager in your report notes item 9b which is

1951
02:01:05,925 --> 02:01:09,462
the capital improvement projects has a bunch of

1952
02:01:09,462 --> 02:01:12,999
descriptions on a project which is basically the

1953
02:01:12,999 --> 02:01:14,334
redoing of the.[indiscernable].

1954
02:01:14,334 --> 02:01:15,201
>> yes.

1955
02:01:15,201 --> 02:01:20,730
>> there is a deadline for submission of ideas for a

1956
02:01:20,730 --> 02:01:20,974
project deadline.

1957
02:01:20,974 --> 02:01:24,944
>> for environmental feedback: this one is the feedback

1958
02:01:24,944 --> 02:01:29,382
they are taking exquisitely based on what would be the

1959
02:01:29,382 --> 02:01:33,786
impact on the water. Typically they explain this to us.

1960
02:01:33,786 --> 02:01:37,357
the county agency that normally chimes and there's

1961
02:01:37,357 --> 02:01:42,228
going to be quite a bit of public feedback later on.

1962
02:01:42,228 --> 02:01:47,660
they don't have the consultant in place so they have to

1963
02:01:47,660 --> 02:01:51,504
do that first and then they will be making a

1964
02:01:51,504 --> 02:01:52,839
presentation to us.

1965
02:01:52,839 --> 02:01:57,277
>> so we don't need any direction from the commission?

1966
02:01:57,277 --> 02:01:58,578
>> we will.

1967
02:01:58,578 --> 02:02:01,247
we are not there just yet.

1968
02:02:01,247 --> 02:02:06,119
we will bring this topic is actually covered in the 100

1969
02:02:06,119 --> 02:02:11,424
master plan so we will bring it up again if the design

1970
02:02:11,424 --> 02:02:15,395
that is proposed is the design that the commission

1971
02:02:15,395 --> 02:02:17,630
would like to advocate for.

1972
02:02:17,630 --> 02:02:22,936
even with some of the teams that are likely to be the

1973
02:02:22,936 --> 02:02:27,373
teams that are selected for this because this is the

1974
02:02:27,373 --> 02:02:29,576
kind of work they do.

1975
02:02:29,576 --> 02:02:33,546
>> the railing that we got the email about?

1976
02:02:33,546 --> 02:02:34,447
>> yes.

1977
02:02:34,447 --> 02:02:39,319
>> and the other alternatives to mac I'm saying we need

1978
02:02:39,319 --> 02:02:40,653
to discuss this.

1979
02:02:40,653 --> 02:02:45,580
>> we do. They haven't selected a consultant just yet

1980
02:02:45,580 --> 02:02:50,363
so if several more months but we will put it as an

1981
02:02:50,363 --> 02:02:53,933
agenda item early into february, march april somewhere

1982
02:02:53,933 --> 02:02:58,338
in that timeframe to get the design feedback from the

1983
02:02:58,338 --> 02:02:58,805
commission.

1984
02:02:58,805 --> 02:03:04,110
>> I apologize to the mayor not making it to the town

1985
02:03:04,110 --> 02:03:08,514
hall there is a deadline of december 27th for feedback

1986
02:03:08,514 --> 02:03:12,850
on the insurability with the national flood program

1987
02:03:12,850 --> 02:03:15,622
that they are talking about possibly excluding us.

1988
02:03:15,622 --> 02:03:20,260
is there something that we need to discuss before that

1989
02:03:20,260 --> 02:03:24,300
or something that we can submit or coalesce in?

1990
02:03:24,300 --> 02:03:28,901
>>bcc is getting back to us by friday with an analysis

1991
02:03:28,901 --> 02:03:34,207
of how we will be impacted by the draft maps in terms

1992
02:03:34,207 --> 02:03:39,946
of the in fip and crs. Based on what they say I would

1993
02:03:39,946 --> 02:03:44,817
like if the flood maps are going to say we can't

1994
02:03:44,817 --> 02:03:48,821
dissipate and crs, it depends on what they say.

1995
02:03:48,821 --> 02:03:53,226
I do think we should be prepared to submit comet.

1996
02:03:53,226 --> 02:03:58,998
I am happy to do that. I am happy to draftor work with

1997
02:03:58,998 --> 02:04:03,403
others to drafts. I don't know what direction you need

1998
02:04:03,403 --> 02:04:06,939
from us if you need us to vote?

1999
02:04:06,939 --> 02:04:12,278
>> number I need directions as to what I should say in

2000
02:04:12,278 --> 02:04:13,146
the comments.

2001
02:04:13,146 --> 02:04:14,470
>> yes.

2002
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:19,786
>> we can change some of it but we should all submit as

2003
02:04:19,786 --> 02:04:21,554
commissioners to the board.

2004
02:04:21,554 --> 02:04:25,992
>> the village would need to submit comments as an

2005
02:04:25,992 --> 02:04:26,426
entity.

2006
02:04:26,426 --> 02:04:27,327
>> correct.

2007
02:04:27,327 --> 02:04:31,297
thus the village but we as commissioners can also

2008
02:04:31,297 --> 02:04:32,198
submit comments?

2009
02:04:32,198 --> 02:04:33,660
I believe?

2010
02:04:33,660 --> 02:04:34,834
>> yes, you can.

2011
02:04:34,834 --> 02:04:40,139
>> we have a deadline so at least I'm asking for your

2012
02:04:40,139 --> 02:04:40,606
assistance.

2013
02:04:40,606 --> 02:04:45,478
send me something in the guidelines that you want me to

2014
02:04:45,478 --> 02:04:48,114
say when you get the drafts.

2015
02:04:48,114 --> 02:04:52,985
>> is going to be one comment letter from the village

2016
02:04:52,985 --> 02:04:57,423
and whatever I recommend to be the village comments e

2017
02:04:57,423 --> 02:04:59,625
can also send that letter.

2018
02:04:59,625 --> 02:05:02,295
>> please send me a copy.

2019
02:05:02,295 --> 02:05:06,699
>> do you need us to vote to do that?

2020
02:05:06,699 --> 02:05:11,571
>> we are speaking right now there is a consensus that

2021
02:05:11,571 --> 02:05:16,442
you are the lead on this because we don't know exactly

2022
02:05:16,442 --> 02:05:22,215
what it is we should be saying just yet but you give me

2023
02:05:22,215 --> 02:05:27,860
a general direction on what you want for this we can

2024
02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:31,570
prepare something and send it on behalf of the

2025
02:05:31,570 --> 02:05:34,594
commission and get the commission to chime in.

2026
02:05:34,594 --> 02:05:39,465
otherwise we been working on this for more than a year

2027
02:05:39,465 --> 02:05:44,337
and the city in miami-dade county has not been able to

2028
02:05:44,337 --> 02:05:49,208
display since 1994 and were one of the cities and there

2029
02:05:49,208 --> 02:05:53,179
appeared were basically there and in january we should

2030
02:05:53,179 --> 02:05:58,951
be in the system for the first time ever and so to have

2031
02:05:58,951 --> 02:06:02,922
things change at this point given everyone's hard work

2032
02:06:02,922 --> 02:06:05,591
on the would be a chain.

2033
02:06:05,591 --> 02:06:10,897
>> alex was just here for the town hall and marlon was

2034
02:06:10,897 --> 02:06:11,764
here also.

2035
02:06:11,764 --> 02:06:17,537
we are going to do a meeting, ralph, we are going to do

2036
02:06:17,537 --> 02:06:21,507
a meeting with black and veatch who are these

2037
02:06:21,507 --> 02:06:24,177
subcontractors who are handling the application.

2038
02:06:24,177 --> 02:06:28,147
black and veatch and the crs reviewer, myself, the

2039
02:06:28,147 --> 02:06:32,151
manager, marlon will be there to walk through this.

2040
02:06:32,151 --> 02:06:35,688
how this will be affecting our current application.

2041
02:06:35,688 --> 02:06:40,560
>> wonderful and please send us a copy of whatever it

2042
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:45,865
is the village is doing and then I will follow suit by

2043
02:06:45,865 --> 02:06:46,732
sending mine.

2044
02:06:46,732 --> 02:06:47,633
>> great.

2045
02:06:47,633 --> 02:06:51,170
if we end up needing to submit comments.

2046
02:06:51,170 --> 02:06:55,174
>> is your intention doing this privately or publicly?

2047
02:06:55,174 --> 02:07:00,913
>> know it is private it does not need to be a sunshine

2048
02:07:00,913 --> 02:07:01,347
deal.

2049
02:07:01,347 --> 02:07:05,351
>> the commission will give you direction to prepare

2050
02:07:05,351 --> 02:07:09,322
your comments and they're not going to provide any

2051
02:07:09,322 --> 02:07:10,223
additional input?

2052
02:07:10,223 --> 02:07:14,193
okay. If there were you have some sunshine issues.

2053
02:07:14,193 --> 02:07:15,610
>> mill.

2054
02:07:15,610 --> 02:07:21,267
>> are you asking her to send it to me and I replied to

2055
02:07:21,267 --> 02:07:22,602
her he met.

2056
02:07:22,602 --> 02:07:24,804
>> after yes that works.

2057
02:07:24,804 --> 02:07:27,473
>> thank you for your trust.

2058
02:07:27,473 --> 02:07:30,576
>> who is the brainchild on that?

2059
02:07:30,576 --> 02:07:32,345
>> divide and conquer.

2060
02:07:32,345 --> 02:07:37,650
>> my last comment is to you, helen, in the ranting and

2061
02:07:37,650 --> 02:07:41,187
due to patient initiative talking about the bee

2062
02:07:41,187 --> 02:07:45,625
dictation of flat bridges that need to be considered in

2063
02:07:45,625 --> 02:07:50,290
the planned group with the hearing and that's now not

2064
02:07:50,290 --> 02:07:53,132
in 2024 going to be much earlier.

2065
02:07:53,132 --> 02:07:57,570
you need to be working on any beautification plan you

2066
02:07:57,570 --> 02:08:01,541
have for the bridges, especially with the manager would

2067
02:08:01,541 --> 02:08:06,412
depend on the design of the bridges which is for 2223.

2068
02:08:06,412 --> 02:08:08,648
>> we will make adjustments.

2069
02:08:08,648 --> 02:08:12,618
>> just wanted to bring it to your attention.

2070
02:08:12,618 --> 02:08:13,519
thank you.

2071
02:08:13,519 --> 02:08:15,288
>> let's move on.

2072
02:08:15,288 --> 02:08:19,258
the village report, do you have a report freshman

2073
02:08:19,258 --> 02:08:19,692
clark?

2074
02:08:19,692 --> 02:08:23,229
>> nothing. Just wishing the commission and residents

2075
02:08:23,229 --> 02:08:24,564
a happy season.

2076
02:08:24,564 --> 02:08:29,435
>> I appreciate that. I like the tree that's been put

2077
02:08:29,435 --> 02:08:32,972
over there it looks niceand festive. The consent

2078
02:08:32,972 --> 02:08:37,410
agenda we do have an item on the consent agenda.

2079
02:08:37,410 --> 02:08:39,612
do I have a motion?

2080
02:08:39,612 --> 02:08:42,612
>> 1185 which is the eco-pod motion.

2081
02:08:42,715 --> 02:08:47,587
you would set it because the vice mayor did make a

2082
02:08:47,587 --> 02:08:49,355
motion. All in favor?

2083
02:08:49,355 --> 02:08:50,256
anyone against?

2084
02:08:50,256 --> 02:08:50,690
okay.

2085
02:08:50,690 --> 02:08:54,660
it unanimously passes. Let's move on to the first

2086
02:08:54,660 --> 02:08:57,330
reading of ordinance is 12 a.

2087
02:08:57,330 --> 02:08:59,966
I'm sorry, did I miss 11:00?

2088
02:08:59,966 --> 02:09:04,403
were going to come back to those in the discussion

2089
02:09:04,403 --> 02:09:08,841
items. They have been pulled to pay let's do the

2090
02:09:08,841 --> 02:09:13,245
ordinance and the public hearing first and then we will

2091
02:09:13,245 --> 02:09:18,584
do the other items as part of the discussion. So, 12 a

2092
02:09:18,584 --> 02:09:20,786
ordinance clarifying etc. Madame clerk.

2093
02:09:20,786 --> 02:09:22,121
tell us what?

2094
02:09:22,121 --> 02:09:25,658
>> ordinance clarifying the village's use of miami-dade

2095
02:09:25,658 --> 02:09:26,993
county area median

2096
02:09:26,993 --> 02:09:30,963
income (ami) in the workforce housing program-vice

2097
02:09:30,963 --> 02:09:34,934
mayor marvin wilmoth an ordinance of the mayor and

2098
02:09:34,934 --> 02:09:38,370
commission of north bay village, florida, amending

2099
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:39,372
chapter 3,?definitions,?

2100
02:09:39,372 --> 02:09:42,908
and section 15.2.1.b.,?definition of terms? In chapter

2101
02:09:42,908 --> 02:09:44,243
15,?form-based code,?

2102
02:09:44,243 --> 02:09:47,780
of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)

2103
02:09:47,780 --> 02:09:51,784
to clarify the village?s use of area median income

2104
02:09:51,784 --> 02:09:55,321
(ami) and the definition of eligible household income

2105
02:09:55,321 --> 02:09:58,424
range for workforce housing units; providing for

2106
02:09:58,424 --> 02:09:59,725
severability; providing for

2107
02:09:59,725 --> 02:10:02,395
codification; providing for conflicts; and providing

2108
02:10:02,395 --> 02:10:03,295
for an

2109
02:10:03,295 --> 02:10:04,163
effective date.

2110
02:10:04,163 --> 02:10:05,498
>> thank you.

2111
02:10:05,498 --> 02:10:08,134
vice mayor this is your item.

2112
02:10:08,134 --> 02:10:13,472
>> thank you mr. Merritt this is a follow-up to an item

2113
02:10:13,472 --> 02:10:16,542
that we all unanimously approved around workforce

2114
02:10:16,542 --> 02:10:19,645
housing piggybacking on the conversation we started

2115
02:10:19,645 --> 02:10:23,649
earlier today a number of residents as they have

2116
02:10:23,649 --> 02:10:27,620
approached me and it sounds like have approached the

2117
02:10:27,620 --> 02:10:31,624
rest of the commission as well around issues with

2118
02:10:31,624 --> 02:10:33,826
affordability in north bay village.

2119
02:10:33,826 --> 02:10:38,698
one of the great things about the city when I moved

2120
02:10:38,698 --> 02:10:42,668
from new york and from other professionals here at

2121
02:10:42,668 --> 02:10:47,106
north bay village is you can have a mammy experience

2122
02:10:47,106 --> 02:10:48,874
without paying mammy prices.

2123
02:10:48,874 --> 02:10:54,180
that is something we need to be cognizant of as we make

2124
02:10:54,180 --> 02:10:55,948
changes to the code.

2125
02:10:55,948 --> 02:11:01,253
we need to make changes that are smart and not push out

2126
02:11:01,253 --> 02:11:05,257
our current residence and this clarification to the ami

2127
02:11:05,257 --> 02:11:07,893
percentage allows us to do so.

2128
02:11:07,893 --> 02:11:11,897
there's some information by staff and I'm sure they

2129
02:11:11,897 --> 02:11:17,203
would be happy to weigh in on anything we missed but we

2130
02:11:17,203 --> 02:11:21,640
really want to focus on the folks that teach our

2131
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:24,710
children, the fires, keep our municipalities moving,

2132
02:11:24,710 --> 02:11:27,379
the real-life lead of miami here.

2133
02:11:27,379 --> 02:11:32,251
with that, I am happy to answer any questions or if

2134
02:11:32,251 --> 02:11:36,689
there is one from the city staff that has any

2135
02:11:36,689 --> 02:11:42,428
additional items to add I would be happy to do so or if

2136
02:11:42,428 --> 02:11:44,630
anyone wants to a motion.

2137
02:11:44,630 --> 02:11:50,836
I guess I can make a motion I would be happy to make a

2138
02:11:50,836 --> 02:11:56,142
motion yes I would make a motion to accept item 12 a.

2139
02:11:56,142 --> 02:11:57,420
thank you.

2140
02:11:57,420 --> 02:12:00,146
>> let's open it a public comment.

2141
02:12:00,146 --> 02:12:01,914
any public comment online?

2142
02:12:01,914 --> 02:12:04,116
>> I see none mayor.

2143
02:12:04,116 --> 02:12:06,318
>> public comment is closed.

2144
02:12:06,318 --> 02:12:09,421
>> I do have one more comments.

2145
02:12:09,421 --> 02:12:14,293
sylvia has been such a trooper on eating me to the

2146
02:12:14,293 --> 02:12:15,628
finish line here.

2147
02:12:15,628 --> 02:12:20,933
thank you, so much for all your hard work. I know we

2148
02:12:20,933 --> 02:12:25,805
went back and forth making sure we got to the number

2149
02:12:25,805 --> 02:12:29,809
that we thought reflected the residence here at north

2150
02:12:29,809 --> 02:12:34,647
bay village so thank you for doing all the hard work

2151
02:12:34,647 --> 02:12:39,985
and the city staff as well for helping to pull this all

2152
02:12:39,985 --> 02:12:41,754
together so, thank you.

2153
02:12:41,754 --> 02:12:45,291
>> can you clarifywhat exhibit we are adopting?

2154
02:12:45,291 --> 02:12:46,158
>> yes.

2155
02:12:46,158 --> 02:12:51,300
I wanted to make sure that I understood as well to

2156
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:51,497
clarify.

2157
02:12:51,497 --> 02:12:54,567
thank you for your words vice mayor.

2158
02:12:54,567 --> 02:12:59,400
we have two versions of the ordinance. The first one

2159
02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:03,442
was the one that we took to planning and zoning.

2160
02:13:03,442 --> 02:13:07,847
it has the changes that the vice mayor mentioned and

2161
02:13:07,847 --> 02:13:11,417
originally we had also recommended expanding the income

2162
02:13:11,417 --> 02:13:15,821
range from the current code language which is from 80

2163
02:13:15,821 --> 02:13:21,594
to 100 and two race that up to a range of 140. The

2164
02:13:21,594 --> 02:13:25,564
ordinance was accepted as such by the planning and

2165
02:13:25,564 --> 02:13:29,101
zoning board. However, in further investigation of the

2166
02:13:29,101 --> 02:13:33,105
different income ranges and the impact on the rent

2167
02:13:33,105 --> 02:13:37,760
which is a very fitting segue to your comment,

2168
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,179
commissioner rachel streitfeld, we realized that the

2169
02:13:40,179 --> 02:13:44,583
rents, by raising the income limit 40 percent of ami

2170
02:13:44,583 --> 02:13:46,819
would also raise the rents.

2171
02:13:46,819 --> 02:13:50,789
those are the conversations that the vice mayor is

2172
02:13:50,789 --> 02:13:55,661
referring to it we looked at that data and we are

2173
02:13:55,661 --> 02:13:59,632
putting in front of you and alternate ordinance that

2174
02:13:59,632 --> 02:14:03,202
makes the change from local median household income

2175
02:14:03,202 --> 02:14:06,272
back to county ami which is lower.

2176
02:14:06,272 --> 02:14:10,709
and, would leave the income range as it is today

2177
02:14:10,709 --> 02:14:12,912
without upper range of 140.

2178
02:14:12,912 --> 02:14:17,783
as you know, the commission are able to make changes of

2179
02:14:17,783 --> 02:14:22,655
the first reading and that is why we are putting that

2180
02:14:22,655 --> 02:14:25,324
alternate recommendation in front of you.

2181
02:14:25,324 --> 02:14:28,861
this is not disrespecting the planning and zoning

2182
02:14:28,861 --> 02:14:33,299
boards vote. I think the planning and zoning board was

2183
02:14:33,299 --> 02:14:37,269
more focused on the change from local median household

2184
02:14:37,269 --> 02:14:39,471
income ami then rent limit.

2185
02:14:39,471 --> 02:14:43,475
we feel that this change would not be disrespecting

2186
02:14:43,475 --> 02:14:44,343
their interest.

2187
02:14:44,343 --> 02:14:50,115
I guess that is all I will say and I will answer any

2188
02:14:50,115 --> 02:14:50,549
questions.

2189
02:14:50,549 --> 02:14:54,520
>> for clarification exhibit b is what I'm referencing.

2190
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:59,391
when we did the numbers and am happy to walk you

2191
02:14:59,391 --> 02:15:02,962
through it, there's way more research than sylvia

2192
02:15:02,962 --> 02:15:07,800
wanted to do but with the windowed 40 ami range were

2193
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:12,671
talking to I to $2600 for a studio apartment. It is

2194
02:15:12,671 --> 02:15:14,600
not workforce housing.

2195
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:18,877
>> to me it's never made sense to have something that

2196
02:15:18,877 --> 02:15:21,981
goes abovethe median income for workforce housing

2197
02:15:21,981 --> 02:15:26,418
because all you get is the average in the neighborhood

2198
02:15:26,418 --> 02:15:29,488
you're talking about or higher than that.

2199
02:15:29,488 --> 02:15:34,360
I'm not an expert on this but it makes perfect sense.

2200
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:37,930
>>so, 80 to 100 percent miami-dade county ami?

2201
02:15:37,930 --> 02:15:38,797
>> correct.

2202
02:15:38,797 --> 02:15:44,103
>> how would it affect us if we went 70 to 100?

2203
02:15:44,103 --> 02:15:48,107
>> it would essentially lower the income limit for

2204
02:15:48,107 --> 02:15:51,176
whatever a family of four would be.

2205
02:15:51,176 --> 02:15:54,747
now, through this announcement and sylvia, jump in

2206
02:15:54,747 --> 02:15:59,151
whenever you want it we thought that the residents who

2207
02:15:59,151 --> 02:16:03,155
live here in bay village and thought through the

2208
02:16:03,155 --> 02:16:07,126
profiles of the young professionals that we are trying

2209
02:16:07,126 --> 02:16:11,997
to attract as well, we realize that 80 to 100 provides

2210
02:16:11,997 --> 02:16:12,431
flexibility.

2211
02:16:12,431 --> 02:16:17,302
one, for a young professional or someone who is on a

2212
02:16:17,302 --> 02:16:20,839
fixed income so looking at our seniors, commissioner

2213
02:16:20,839 --> 02:16:24,843
richard chervony, would be able to fall into that

2214
02:16:24,843 --> 02:16:25,277
limit.

2215
02:16:25,277 --> 02:16:29,248
[laughter] you said that you were our representative I

2216
02:16:29,248 --> 02:16:33,686
just wanted you to know that were thinking about you.

2217
02:16:33,686 --> 02:16:36,355
>> thank you, I am learning!

2218
02:16:36,355 --> 02:16:39,425
over 40 I need to stretch more!

2219
02:16:39,425 --> 02:16:43,862
I'm learning. On the flipside of that we have also

2220
02:16:43,862 --> 02:16:48,734
looked at what we are seeing is also the missing middle

2221
02:16:48,734 --> 02:16:52,705
and folks are getting squeezed at that middle income

2222
02:16:52,705 --> 02:16:54,390
tear as well.

2223
02:16:54,390 --> 02:16:58,477
just now turn the corner, you got married, your family

2224
02:16:58,477 --> 02:17:02,448
has grown and having that flexibility provides us with

2225
02:17:02,448 --> 02:17:05,984
a workforce housing range that really reflects the

2226
02:17:05,984 --> 02:17:08,654
current resident population in the village.

2227
02:17:08,654 --> 02:17:13,920
what's okay, I trust you. Let's do that peerless go

2228
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:15,294
with the motion to approve.

2229
02:17:15,294 --> 02:17:20,165
>> yes. And, to add an amendment to say specific way

2230
02:17:20,165 --> 02:17:24,603
that it would be part of the motion to approve.

2231
02:17:24,603 --> 02:17:29,700
>> and, he wanted to use a separate language? Okay.

2232
02:17:29,700 --> 02:17:33,445
>> okay, we had public comment so we can vote.

2233
02:17:33,445 --> 02:17:36,982
>> commissioner julianna strout has her hand raised.

2234
02:17:36,982 --> 02:17:42,287
but I wanted to make sure I was on muted to vote.

2235
02:17:42,287 --> 02:17:43,188
>> please.

2236
02:17:43,188 --> 02:17:45,390
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

2237
02:17:45,390 --> 02:17:46,725
commissioner richard chervony?

2238
02:17:46,725 --> 02:17:48,600
commissioner rachel streitfeld?

2239
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:49,361
commissioner julianna strout?

2240
02:17:49,361 --> 02:17:50,696
mayor brent latham?

2241
02:17:50,696 --> 02:17:52,300
the motion carries.

2242
02:17:52,300 --> 02:17:53,799
>> thank you all.

2243
02:17:53,799 --> 02:17:59,104
>> thank you for all the work that you did on this.

2244
02:17:59,104 --> 02:18:00,873
>> incorporated you, sylvia.

2245
02:18:00,873 --> 02:18:05,744
>> okay, public hearings. We have 13 a don't know if

2246
02:18:05,744 --> 02:18:10,182
you want to do 13 a and 13 b together?

2247
02:18:10,182 --> 02:18:15,530
>> I wanted to recommend that you put them together. I

2248
02:18:15,530 --> 02:18:18,157
wanted to offer a very brief intro.

2249
02:18:18,157 --> 02:18:23,280
>> please do but let's read whatever you need to read.

2250
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:28,767
>> I guess I don't need to do an intro. We can cover

2251
02:18:28,767 --> 02:18:29,668
these well.

2252
02:18:29,668 --> 02:18:31,436
>> go head clerk.

2253
02:18:31,436 --> 02:18:34,436
>> an ordinance eliminating non-hardship variances-

2254
02:18:34,540 --> 02:18:35,407
sponsored by

2255
02:18:35,407 --> 02:18:38,510
commissioner rachel streitfeld an ordinance of the

2256
02:18:38,510 --> 02:18:42,470
mayor and commission of north bay village, florida,

2257
02:18:42,470 --> 02:18:44,249
amending table 4.4.a.1,?public hearings?

2258
02:18:44,249 --> 02:18:48,449
in chapter 4 and sections 7.4, 7.5 and 7.6 in chapter

2259
02:18:49,121 --> 02:18:50,220
7,?variances,?

2260
02:18:50,220 --> 02:18:53,559
of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)

2261
02:18:53,559 --> 02:18:57,529
to 8 eliminate all references and provisions related to

2262
02:18:57,529 --> 02:18:59,765
?nonhardship variances?; providing for codification;

2263
02:18:59,765 --> 02:19:00,632
providing for

2264
02:19:00,632 --> 02:19:03,302
severability; providing for conflicts; and providing

2265
02:19:03,302 --> 02:19:04,169
for an

2266
02:19:04,169 --> 02:19:05,700
effective date.

2267
02:19:05,700 --> 02:19:09,508
do you want to go ahead and read 13 b?

2268
02:19:09,508 --> 02:19:12,578
ordinance to provide for an administrative adjustment

2269
02:19:12,578 --> 02:19:16,582
process in the uldc-village manager ralph rosado,

2270
02:19:16,582 --> 02:19:19,218
ph.d., aicp (village planner silvia e.

2271
02:19:19,218 --> 02:19:21,190
vargas, faicp, leed ap)

2272
02:19:21,190 --> 02:19:25,424
an ordinance of the mayor and commission of north bay

2273
02:19:25,424 --> 02:19:28,930
village, florida, amending chapter 4,?administration

2274
02:19:28,930 --> 02:19:31,630
and enforcement,? And chapter 7,?variances,? Of the

2275
02:19:31,630 --> 02:19:34,733
village?s unified land development code (uldc) to

2276
02:19:34,733 --> 02:19:36,680
provide for an

2277
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:38,270
administrative adjustment process; providing for

2278
02:19:38,270 --> 02:19:40,906
severability; providing for codification; providing for

2279
02:19:40,906 --> 02:19:44,900
conflicts; and providing for an effective date.

2280
02:19:44,900 --> 02:19:48,881
>> I want to thank my colleagues for the support on

2281
02:19:48,881 --> 02:19:51,550
this effort of the first reading.

2282
02:19:51,550 --> 02:19:55,988
we are eliminating one of the two variances that were

2283
02:19:55,988 --> 02:19:59,524
available under the heartland development and this will

2284
02:19:59,524 --> 02:20:03,929
ensure that our zoning code is followed in a more

2285
02:20:03,929 --> 02:20:07,933
regular way and when we remove that non-hardship based

2286
02:20:07,933 --> 02:20:12,337
variant we also made sure that our property owners can

2287
02:20:12,337 --> 02:20:14,573
build appropriately on their property.

2288
02:20:14,573 --> 02:20:18,977
we now have 13 b which is an administrative adjustment

2289
02:20:18,977 --> 02:20:19,444
process.

2290
02:20:19,444 --> 02:20:23,849
this is the second reading, right? It is the second

2291
02:20:23,849 --> 02:20:26,952
reading on this administrative adjustment process so

2292
02:20:26,952 --> 02:20:31,823
when we heard it the first time the mayor asked for

2293
02:20:31,823 --> 02:20:36,261
some criteria that was a little bit more spelled out

2294
02:20:36,261 --> 02:20:40,232
and I think we have that here with us.

2295
02:20:40,232 --> 02:20:44,202
I think having these two parallel processes where you

2296
02:20:44,202 --> 02:20:49,740
have someone who has a hardship can come in for a

2297
02:20:49,740 --> 02:20:52,177
variance procedure and otherwise property owners will

2298
02:20:52,177 --> 02:20:54,846
be expected to follow our code.

2299
02:20:54,846 --> 02:20:58,383
but when single-family homeowners really have a need

2300
02:20:58,383 --> 02:21:01,920
they can go straight through an administrative process

2301
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:06,792
and not have to spend the money to go before the

2302
02:21:06,792 --> 02:21:11,229
commission and the planning and zoning board to get a

2303
02:21:11,229 --> 02:21:12,970
variance approved.

2304
02:21:12,970 --> 02:21:17,402
I think this is a really nice compromise so I will make

2305
02:21:17,402 --> 02:21:20,973
the motion to approve 13 a and 19.

2306
02:21:20,973 --> 02:21:22,274
>> I secondthat.

2307
02:21:22,274 --> 02:21:25,377
>> let's open it for public comment.

2308
02:21:25,377 --> 02:21:27,145
nobody online madame clerk?

2309
02:21:27,145 --> 02:21:28,914
public comment is closed.

2310
02:21:28,914 --> 02:21:31,583
they are probably ready to vote.

2311
02:21:31,583 --> 02:21:32,170
okay.

2312
02:21:32,170 --> 02:21:36,455
does anyone have anything else before we go? Can we

2313
02:21:36,455 --> 02:21:42,194
vote on these two at the same time or do we have to

2314
02:21:42,194 --> 02:21:43,962
vote on them separately?

2315
02:21:43,962 --> 02:21:46,631
13 a. Let's vote on that.

2316
02:21:46,631 --> 02:21:48,400
>> commissioner richard chervony?

2317
02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:50,168
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

2318
02:21:50,168 --> 02:21:51,503
commissioner richard chervony?

2319
02:21:51,503 --> 02:21:52,838
commissioner julianna strout?

2320
02:21:52,838 --> 02:21:55,474
mayor brent latham? The motion carries.

2321
02:21:55,474 --> 02:22:00,345
>> let's take13 b, on that let's open that for public

2322
02:22:00,345 --> 02:22:00,779
comment.

2323
02:22:00,779 --> 02:22:03,150
okay, public comment is closed.

2324
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:07,419
let's get a motion and a second on 13 b.

2325
02:22:07,419 --> 02:22:10,989
>> a make a motion to approve13 b.

2326
02:22:10,989 --> 02:22:11,857
>> second.

2327
02:22:11,857 --> 02:22:16,728
>> with emotion and a second so now we can vote.

2328
02:22:16,728 --> 02:22:18,497
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld?

2329
02:22:18,497 --> 02:22:20,265
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?

2330
02:22:20,265 --> 02:22:21,600
commissioner richard chervony?

2331
02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:22,934
commissioner julianna strout?

2332
02:22:22,934 --> 02:22:24,269
mayor brent latham?

2333
02:22:24,269 --> 02:22:25,570
the motion carries.

2334
02:22:25,570 --> 02:22:30,442
>> I really do want to thank you all for your

2335
02:22:30,442 --> 02:22:32,677
cooperation and support on this.

2336
02:22:32,677 --> 02:22:37,983
>> you are welcome. Let's take 13 tran 21 which is the

2337
02:22:37,983 --> 02:22:40,619
sago palm ordinance which we added.

2338
02:22:40,619 --> 02:22:45,560
>> this is the code to bring sago palms within

2339
02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:47,726
specified areas providing for clarification providing

2340
02:22:47,726 --> 02:22:51,263
for conflict and implication and providing an effective

2341
02:22:51,263 --> 02:22:51,696
date.

2342
02:22:51,696 --> 02:22:55,667
>> mayor, if I can add one quick clarification?

2343
02:22:55,667 --> 02:23:01,600
this is in 13 c this is actually the first reading of

2344
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:04,976
this ordinance so let's just take note of that.

2345
02:23:04,976 --> 02:23:05,877
thank you.

2346
02:23:05,877 --> 02:23:07,179
>> thank you.

2347
02:23:07,179 --> 02:23:11,616
>> okay, I don't think there's much to discuss, let's

2348
02:23:11,616 --> 02:23:13,819
open it for public comment.

2349
02:23:13,819 --> 02:23:16,488
okay, the public comment is closed.

2350
02:23:16,488 --> 02:23:18,690
I will make a motion.

2351
02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:20,926
>> I will second it.

2352
02:23:20,926 --> 02:23:22,227
>> let's vote.

2353
02:23:22,227 --> 02:23:23,995
>> mayor brent latham?

2354
02:23:23,995 --> 02:23:25,330
commissioner richard chervony?

2355
02:23:25,330 --> 02:23:26,665
commissioner rachel streitfeld?

2356
02:23:26,665 --> 02:23:27,999
commissioner julianna strout?

2357
02:23:27,999 --> 02:23:31,536
vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Mayor, the motion carries.

2358
02:23:31,536 --> 02:23:35,730
>> let's take a five minute break.

2359
02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:37,742
>> do we need a resolution?

2360
02:23:37,742 --> 02:23:42,147
for the change of the starting time of the meetings?

2361
02:23:42,147 --> 02:23:46,151
>> we could change the resolution for the starting

2362
02:23:46,151 --> 02:23:46,585
time.

2363
02:23:46,585 --> 02:23:51,890
>> is the same resolution but we can change it to draft

2364
02:23:51,890 --> 02:23:56,328
it back into the agenda for the order of business.

2365
02:23:56,328 --> 02:24:01,199
>> let's take a motion to change the starting time of

2366
02:24:01,199 --> 02:24:03,401
the meeting to 6 pm.

2367
02:24:03,401 --> 02:24:05,604
>> I will know that.

2368
02:24:05,604 --> 02:24:07,405
>> I will secondit.

2369
02:24:07,405 --> 02:24:09,174
>> all in favor?

2370
02:24:09,174 --> 02:24:09,608
>>aye.

2371
02:24:09,608 --> 02:24:10,942
>> anyone against?

2372
02:24:10,942 --> 02:24:15,814
>> I would add the commission always has a liberty if

2373
02:24:15,814 --> 02:24:19,351
you have concerns about residence coming in for

2374
02:24:19,351 --> 02:24:23,321
something important you can delay things for after 6:30

2375
02:24:23,321 --> 02:24:23,755
anyway.

2376
02:24:23,755 --> 02:24:27,292
>> we can and often we go beyond6:30.

2377
02:24:27,292 --> 02:24:27,759
okay.

2378
02:24:27,759 --> 02:24:29,528
we are moving on.

2379
02:24:29,528 --> 02:24:30,862
this is yours.

2380
02:24:30,862 --> 02:24:32,163
11 a 2.

2381
02:24:32,163 --> 02:24:36,601
>> yes peered this item is coming up because earlier

2382
02:24:36,601 --> 02:24:41,390
this year we put out an it process for videography

2383
02:24:41,390 --> 02:24:45,443
services and that original it q was meant to cover

2384
02:24:45,443 --> 02:24:49,447
video services not to exceed $15,000. We have exceeded

2385
02:24:49,447 --> 02:24:50,315
that amount.

2386
02:24:50,315 --> 02:24:55,187
or, we will be exceeding that amount soon if we don't

2387
02:24:55,187 --> 02:24:59,624
bring this to commission. In the it q process the

2388
02:24:59,624 --> 02:25:04,620
quote that we got back showed that other companies are

2389
02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:07,599
charging way more than real-life studio is charging.

2390
02:25:07,599 --> 02:25:13,338
if we put this out to our it guy, what were trying to

2391
02:25:13,338 --> 02:25:17,776
do in this waiver of securement requests is to go

2392
02:25:17,776 --> 02:25:21,746
forward with a company that we have already been

2393
02:25:21,746 --> 02:25:26,184
working with, that we trust and we've had a good

2394
02:25:26,184 --> 02:25:30,622
relationship with knowing that if we went out to rp

2395
02:25:30,622 --> 02:25:35,460
again the chances are ugly that it will be the same

2396
02:25:35,460 --> 02:25:35,927
result.

2397
02:25:35,927 --> 02:25:38,563
companies that are charging even more.

2398
02:25:38,563 --> 02:25:42,567
and so, we humbly request a one-year service with

2399
02:25:42,567 --> 02:25:43,435
real-life studio.

2400
02:25:43,435 --> 02:25:48,306
>> mr. Mayor, the language in the code, if you are

2401
02:25:48,306 --> 02:25:52,744
going to forgo a competitive process there is a best

2402
02:25:52,744 --> 02:25:56,715
interest exception identify in the pew kerman code so

2403
02:25:56,715 --> 02:25:59,384
we put that into the resolution.

2404
02:25:59,384 --> 02:26:04,256
you doing this because it is in the best interest of

2405
02:26:04,256 --> 02:26:08,660
the village to weigh the competitive light given to the

2406
02:26:08,660 --> 02:26:09,127
conclusion.

2407
02:26:09,127 --> 02:26:13,999
>> the reason I pulled this agenda is because we were

2408
02:26:13,999 --> 02:26:18,837
delay said that we were close to running out of funds.

2409
02:26:18,837 --> 02:26:21,506
we have a to $5000 videography.

2410
02:26:21,506 --> 02:26:25,430
>> we are not running out of funds.

2411
02:26:25,430 --> 02:26:30,348
I might have misspoke but what he meant to say is we

2412
02:26:30,348 --> 02:26:31,249
are-

2413
02:26:31,249 --> 02:26:35,687
>> with the code we can't exceed $15,000 in lifetime

2414
02:26:35,687 --> 02:26:39,658
expenditures with the same company without it going to

2415
02:26:39,658 --> 02:26:40,910
rfp.

2416
02:26:40,910 --> 02:26:42,761
we will be exceeding that amount.

2417
02:26:42,761 --> 02:26:44,529
not in this year.

2418
02:26:44,529 --> 02:26:49,834
>> my other question is if it was just the one year

2419
02:26:49,834 --> 02:26:54,706
extension, I could sort of go with it but you are

2420
02:26:54,706 --> 02:26:56,908
giving me three one-year extensions.

2421
02:26:56,908 --> 02:27:02,247
we should require an rfp. Maybe we could go with an rf

2422
02:27:02,247 --> 02:27:06,217
three without a proper response to an rf two.

2423
02:27:06,217 --> 02:27:11,523
>> because it is lifetime not just in this year we are

2424
02:27:11,523 --> 02:27:16,394
exceeding 15,000 paid we could go to the rfp again but

2425
02:27:16,394 --> 02:27:21,266
we are bringing this up to the commission so that you

2426
02:27:21,266 --> 02:27:26,571
guys can or are aware that we are at that threshold and

2427
02:27:26,571 --> 02:27:30,108
to at least prove that threshold right now.

2428
02:27:30,108 --> 02:27:34,546
>> it sounds like we could save ourselves time and

2429
02:27:34,546 --> 02:27:38,516
money from going through this process again if are

2430
02:27:38,516 --> 02:27:41,186
going to get the same answer.

2431
02:27:41,186 --> 02:27:42,530
>> yes.

2432
02:27:42,530 --> 02:27:46,925
>> any of the quotes that we have seen have been

2433
02:27:46,925 --> 02:27:50,929
comparable and were with the service they have provided

2434
02:27:50,929 --> 02:27:51,796
so far?

2435
02:27:51,796 --> 02:27:52,697
>> yes.

2436
02:27:52,697 --> 02:27:56,234
>> I don't see an issue with this.

2437
02:27:56,234 --> 02:27:59,337
I will make a motion to approve.

2438
02:27:59,337 --> 02:28:01,973
>> do I have a second?

2439
02:28:01,973 --> 02:28:03,742
>> I will secondit.

2440
02:28:03,742 --> 02:28:05,760
>> let's vote.

2441
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,613
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes commissioner rachel

2442
02:28:08,613 --> 02:28:11,282
streitfeld? Yes commissioner richard chervony? Number.

2443
02:28:11,282 --> 02:28:13,510
>> commissioner julianna strout?

2444
02:28:13,510 --> 02:28:17,210
number I think we should go to an rfp.

2445
02:28:17,210 --> 02:28:20,125
>> mayor brent latham? Yesthe motion carries.

2446
02:28:20,125 --> 02:28:24,996
>> despite the fact that we approve that I was suggest

2447
02:28:24,996 --> 02:28:29,868
due diligence in considering if an rfp at some point is

2448
02:28:29,868 --> 02:28:32,537
the best thing we should do.

2449
02:28:32,537 --> 02:28:35,173
>> we can consider that your.

2450
02:28:35,173 --> 02:28:40,440
>> mr. Mayor we are only making the commitment for one

2451
02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:43,148
year the options are at your discretion.

2452
02:28:43,148 --> 02:28:48,453
>> yes. I just want to make wesure we are being as

2453
02:28:48,453 --> 02:28:51,556
transparent as possible which I believe everyone

2454
02:28:51,556 --> 02:28:52,891
intends to do.

2455
02:28:52,891 --> 02:28:53,792
all right.

2456
02:28:53,792 --> 02:28:56,428
11a3 which would be similar discussion.

2457
02:28:56,428 --> 02:29:00,865
>> this one is a one-time waiver procurement for events

2458
02:29:00,865 --> 02:29:05,270
services. It is not just to utilize this company, had

2459
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:09,707
an rfp for event services however, the company we were

2460
02:29:09,707 --> 02:29:13,711
going to eat originally used for the winter wonderland

2461
02:29:13,711 --> 02:29:14,579
fell through.

2462
02:29:14,579 --> 02:29:19,884
because we have used them in the past in the same with

2463
02:29:19,884 --> 02:29:23,888
the last item we will be exceeding the threshold

2464
02:29:23,888 --> 02:29:26,958
required for expenditures with the company without

2465
02:29:26,958 --> 02:29:30,962
going to or through the procurement process. We went

2466
02:29:30,962 --> 02:29:35,834
with a company whichtrust and we went with in the past

2467
02:29:35,834 --> 02:29:40,238
and we've use them for emergency purposes use them for

2468
02:29:40,238 --> 02:29:42,400
the winter wonderland event.

2469
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:46,444
it would only be to authorize funds for the tour

2470
02:29:46,444 --> 02:29:50,448
wonderland not for any other events because we are

2471
02:29:50,448 --> 02:29:53,985
going out for rfp for event services peered.

2472
02:29:53,985 --> 02:29:57,880
>> I make a motion to approve.

2473
02:29:57,880 --> 02:29:58,857
>> I will second.

2474
02:29:58,857 --> 02:30:01,590
any other questions or comments?

2475
02:30:01,590 --> 02:30:01,492
anybody?

2476
02:30:01,492 --> 02:30:06,798
>> the comments that I have and the reason why I pulled

2477
02:30:06,798 --> 02:30:11,669
it, it is a reflection on you, helen, because you have

2478
02:30:11,669 --> 02:30:17,800
a job right now and you are in the middle of the

2479
02:30:17,800 --> 02:30:17,442
process.

2480
02:30:17,442 --> 02:30:21,846
it is poor planning from the village point of view.

2481
02:30:21,846 --> 02:30:26,718
this event is taking place in 10 days and you're asking

2482
02:30:26,718 --> 02:30:31,589
nino to be able to provide a contract to the company

2483
02:30:31,589 --> 02:30:34,259
that was proposed way back when?

2484
02:30:34,259 --> 02:30:35,126
you know?

2485
02:30:35,126 --> 02:30:40,899
it's like hey, bail me out and we stood up and now we

2486
02:30:40,899 --> 02:30:46,204
have to solve it somehow or another in here we are a

2487
02:30:46,204 --> 02:30:51,750
day before the event we are signing a contract and I

2488
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:54,178
think that is poor planning. I'm sorry.

2489
02:30:54,178 --> 02:30:58,616
>> we didn't expect to lose our arrangement with the

2490
02:30:58,616 --> 02:31:01,686
previous company peered obviously that's unexpected and

2491
02:31:01,686 --> 02:31:07,250
this is a way to keep it on track and be successful.

2492
02:31:07,250 --> 02:31:11,429
we needed this for the vendors. We didn't drop them

2493
02:31:11,429 --> 02:31:14,980
they became nonresponsive. That definitely wasn't

2494
02:31:14,980 --> 02:31:14,532
expected.

2495
02:31:14,532 --> 02:31:16,734
>> wind that take place?

2496
02:31:16,734 --> 02:31:18,970
>> a few weeks ago?

2497
02:31:18,970 --> 02:31:23,374
>> that company, we reached out well in advance about

2498
02:31:23,374 --> 02:31:28,246
three or four months ago to make sure because it was

2499
02:31:28,246 --> 02:31:32,250
that company was going to provide an ice slide.

2500
02:31:32,250 --> 02:31:35,353
it's something that not many companies provide.

2501
02:31:35,353 --> 02:31:41,920
so we did reach out to them knowing it was going to be

2502
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:45,964
hard to fill that in december to find a company that

2503
02:31:45,964 --> 02:31:47,732
creates an ice slide.

2504
02:31:47,732 --> 02:31:53,370
they double book and so we had to pivot and figure out

2505
02:31:53,370 --> 02:31:54,372
a different plan.

2506
02:31:54,372 --> 02:31:55,273
>> ice-skating.

2507
02:31:55,273 --> 02:31:58,343
>> now it is a synthetic slide.

2508
02:31:58,343 --> 02:32:00,578
>> I love these events.

2509
02:32:00,578 --> 02:32:04,549
>> the kids will be happy, I am sure.

2510
02:32:04,549 --> 02:32:09,420
>> so, to me that doesn't resolve the data it's the

2511
02:32:09,420 --> 02:32:12,523
best they can do in the situation.

2512
02:32:12,523 --> 02:32:17,395
>> it does resolve the issue but I don't think it's

2513
02:32:17,395 --> 02:32:22,266
fair to the commission to come 10 days before an event

2514
02:32:22,266 --> 02:32:25,370
and ask them to bail us out.

2515
02:32:25,370 --> 02:32:29,774
there has to be a backup plan when june event.

2516
02:32:29,774 --> 02:32:32,443
>> is sounds like they do.

2517
02:32:32,443 --> 02:32:37,315
>> they do. This is a last moment-*custom* I disagree

2518
02:32:37,315 --> 02:32:40,418
because the event is still taking place.

2519
02:32:40,418 --> 02:32:45,289
>> they should've come to us before and presented us a

2520
02:32:45,289 --> 02:32:46,157
backup plan.

2521
02:32:46,157 --> 02:32:50,161
>> commissioner richard chervony with all due respect I

2522
02:32:50,161 --> 02:32:54,565
don't think it's fair to double plan something just in

2523
02:32:54,565 --> 02:32:56,801
case a provider backs out.

2524
02:32:56,801 --> 02:33:01,639
sounds like they save the event and is going to be

2525
02:33:01,639 --> 02:33:05,209
spectacular despite the fact they had difficulty with

2526
02:33:05,209 --> 02:33:06,770
the provider.

2527
02:33:06,770 --> 02:33:10,480
I guess were just interpreting the same thing in

2528
02:33:10,480 --> 02:33:10,948
different ways.

2529
02:33:10,948 --> 02:33:12,283
>> fair enough.

2530
02:33:12,283 --> 02:33:17,155
>> I know helen was being very diligently brought it to

2531
02:33:17,155 --> 02:33:19,357
the resident services as well.

2532
02:33:19,357 --> 02:33:24,228
>> that is a good point. A lot of this discussion

2533
02:33:24,228 --> 02:33:27,331
takes place over residence services. Okay, cool.

2534
02:33:27,331 --> 02:33:29,100
I think that suffices.

2535
02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:31,302
let's vote on the contract.

2536
02:33:31,302 --> 02:33:35,306
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?

2537
02:33:35,306 --> 02:33:35,740
yes.

2538
02:33:35,740 --> 02:33:37,508
commissioner richard chervony? No.

2539
02:33:37,508 --> 02:33:39,711
commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner

2540
02:33:39,711 --> 02:33:43,247
julianna strout? Yes peered the motion carries. We

2541
02:33:43,247 --> 02:33:46,350
will have the winter wonderland, thank you.

2542
02:33:46,350 --> 02:33:46,818
okay.

2543
02:33:46,818 --> 02:33:52,123
11 a number 4 who is going to present it to mac.

2544
02:33:52,123 --> 02:33:53,458
>> I will.

2545
02:33:53,458 --> 02:33:53,891
right.

2546
02:33:53,891 --> 02:33:56,994
>> I pulled it from the consent.

2547
02:33:56,994 --> 02:34:02,733
>> I pulled it because I want to discuss it but I don't

2548
02:34:02,733 --> 02:34:04,502
need to introduce it.

2549
02:34:04,502 --> 02:34:06,738
>> want you go ahead.

2550
02:34:06,738 --> 02:34:11,142
>> we worked with everyone on the commission on these

2551
02:34:11,142 --> 02:34:14,679
items this involves derelict vessels in particular in

2552
02:34:14,679 --> 02:34:19,117
the bay waters to the immediate west of the village.

2553
02:34:19,117 --> 02:34:23,988
as you all know we have added issues that have subsided

2554
02:34:23,988 --> 02:34:28,426
over the last several months but you don't know when

2555
02:34:28,426 --> 02:34:31,496
they can rear their ugly head again.

2556
02:34:31,496 --> 02:34:33,731
>>and, a giant advertising barge?

2557
02:34:33,731 --> 02:34:36,367
what's we have already reported them.

2558
02:34:36,367 --> 02:34:41,239
it is not necessarily easy at the idea is to strengthen

2559
02:34:41,239 --> 02:34:46,544
what we ask of our partners because as strict as we are

2560
02:34:46,544 --> 02:34:51,415
are not necessarily as strict as we would like them to

2561
02:34:51,415 --> 02:34:57,188
be and so we are making a series of asks to amy dade

2562
02:34:57,188 --> 02:35:02,590
county and the state of florida, they are in your memo

2563
02:35:02,590 --> 02:35:08,232
and I am not going to read all of them but, some of the

2564
02:35:08,232 --> 02:35:11,335
key ones let me pull that out.

2565
02:35:11,335 --> 02:35:15,339
>> are you looking at the bullets in the

2566
02:35:15,339 --> 02:35:15,773
recommendation?

2567
02:35:15,773 --> 02:35:18,876
assigning, designated enforcement officers to our area

2568
02:35:18,876 --> 02:35:22,847
to make sure vessels are secured and in compliance.

2569
02:35:22,847 --> 02:35:25,950
reviewing and adopting code changes to enhance

2570
02:35:25,950 --> 02:35:29,530
regulations and provide speedy enforcement for vessels

2571
02:35:29,530 --> 02:35:30,821
that are in noncompliance.

2572
02:35:30,821 --> 02:35:33,240
coordinating monthly or quarterly compliance

2573
02:35:33,240 --> 02:35:36,127
inspections of the commercial vessels with law

2574
02:35:36,127 --> 02:35:40,565
enforcement, fish and wildlife etc. Paid so on and so

2575
02:35:40,565 --> 02:35:43,668
forth peered these recognitions have been developed

2576
02:35:43,668 --> 02:35:48,720
over a time with input on those agencies and orlando

2577
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:50,741
has been the lead on this.

2578
02:35:50,741 --> 02:35:53,845
sustainability and resilience task or says given

2579
02:35:53,845 --> 02:35:54,278
feedback.

2580
02:35:54,278 --> 02:35:58,282
I have given feedback, we've had so many conversations.

2581
02:35:58,282 --> 02:36:02,253
these are I think good recommendations that I will

2582
02:36:02,253 --> 02:36:06,224
certainly take as a platform to the watershed water

2583
02:36:06,224 --> 02:36:09,760
advisory board if we adopt this resolution tonight.

2584
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:15,533
>> is going to say I have one more to add that we

2585
02:36:15,533 --> 02:36:19,971
learned about today because it is a new initiative and

2586
02:36:19,971 --> 02:36:23,400
maybe commissioner rachel streitfeld knows about this

2587
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:27,440
already but our lead marine patrol officer was recently

2588
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:31,449
asked to become part of the working group cord needed

2589
02:36:31,449 --> 02:36:35,886
by the county where they are actually part of a

2590
02:36:35,886 --> 02:36:39,891
land-use initiative to be able to control these things

2591
02:36:39,891 --> 02:36:44,729
and they are doing an analysis of the types of seagrass

2592
02:36:44,729 --> 02:36:49,166
in the area and if there are certain species of

2593
02:36:49,166 --> 02:36:51,836
seagrass they can prohibit these operations.

2594
02:36:51,836 --> 02:36:54,939
it essentially creates distance requirement is an

2595
02:36:54,939 --> 02:36:55,806
intriguing idea.

2596
02:36:55,806 --> 02:37:00,678
this was very recent and it just came to our attention

2597
02:37:00,678 --> 02:37:01,112
today.

2598
02:37:01,112 --> 02:37:06,417
our recommendation is to add this on here as one of the

2599
02:37:06,417 --> 02:37:10,421
final bullets so we can transmit to the agencies.

2600
02:37:10,421 --> 02:37:15,293
>> where can we buy that seagrass and go scuba diving?

2601
02:37:15,293 --> 02:37:17,495
>> it is absolutely fascinating.

2602
02:37:17,495 --> 02:37:21,465
there are certain species of seagrass in the areas

2603
02:37:21,465 --> 02:37:26,337
above it are off limits and other going to put some

2604
02:37:26,337 --> 02:37:30,775
time and effort into looking at the species around here

2605
02:37:30,775 --> 02:37:35,646
if they find a variety of them it creates an automatic

2606
02:37:35,646 --> 02:37:39,183
preserve. So no commercial advertising, or any of

2607
02:37:39,183 --> 02:37:40,840
these things.

2608
02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:45,389
>> I want to make a motion to approve a resolution to

2609
02:37:45,389 --> 02:37:48,492
increase enforcement and proactive monitoring of the

2610
02:37:48,492 --> 02:37:48,926
bay.

2611
02:37:48,926 --> 02:37:52,290
by implement in these policies, procedures, code

2612
02:37:52,290 --> 02:37:55,566
amendments and retain monitoring of enforcement plan to

2613
02:37:55,566 --> 02:38:00,400
include all of the bulleted items as well as the

2614
02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:03,541
additional item mentioned by dr. Ralph rosado regarding

2615
02:38:03,541 --> 02:38:05,743
the marine patrol working group.

2616
02:38:05,743 --> 02:38:10,614
I would like to make sure that we have an executed

2617
02:38:10,614 --> 02:38:15,520
version of this resolution and really I would like it

2618
02:38:15,520 --> 02:38:19,457
to have all of our signatures, not just the mayor.

2619
02:38:19,457 --> 02:38:24,328
I would like a copy of that to circulate to the

2620
02:38:24,328 --> 02:38:27,865
watershed management board and other folks at derm

2621
02:38:27,865 --> 02:38:28,332
peered.

2622
02:38:28,332 --> 02:38:30,968
>> I would second the motion.

2623
02:38:30,968 --> 02:38:35,406
>> I agree wholeheartedly with all of this and the

2624
02:38:35,406 --> 02:38:39,377
resolution I want to thank orlando for stewarding this

2625
02:38:39,377 --> 02:38:43,381
and putting it together is comprehensive and that is

2626
02:38:43,381 --> 02:38:43,814
important.

2627
02:38:43,814 --> 02:38:49,553
my only I'm not sure it is a doubt and not a nextel

2628
02:38:49,553 --> 02:38:50,888
type of thing.

2629
02:38:50,888 --> 02:38:54,892
picking a resolution and sending it-you want

2630
02:38:54,892 --> 02:38:55,326
follow-up?

2631
02:38:55,326 --> 02:38:58,863
>> yes. Otherwise you're sitting at 268 different

2632
02:38:58,863 --> 02:38:59,296
people.

2633
02:38:59,296 --> 02:39:05,690
how do we get it to move? How do we continue to poke

2634
02:39:05,690 --> 02:39:05,503
them?

2635
02:39:05,503 --> 02:39:08,606
obviously commissioner rachel streitfeld will have a

2636
02:39:08,606 --> 02:39:12,576
large role in her role in the watershed management

2637
02:39:12,576 --> 02:39:13,100
board.

2638
02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:17,882
I am willing to contact the proper people but we need

2639
02:39:17,882 --> 02:39:22,319
some tangible action on this more than just saying a

2640
02:39:22,319 --> 02:39:23,654
bunch of stuff.

2641
02:39:23,654 --> 02:39:25,856
>> I thought about that.

2642
02:39:25,856 --> 02:39:29,393
my recommendation is miami-dade county, the city of

2643
02:39:29,393 --> 02:39:34,265
miami and the state of florida if three of you would

2644
02:39:34,265 --> 02:39:39,570
pick one of them and make it the lead and identify who

2645
02:39:39,570 --> 02:39:44,442
is the appropriate local lead in each of those and that

2646
02:39:44,442 --> 02:39:47,978
hopes to raise the tension level on this.

2647
02:39:47,978 --> 02:39:52,416
we do need a champion in each of these jurisdictions.

2648
02:39:52,416 --> 02:39:56,420
>> who will be targeting the state of florida?

2649
02:39:56,420 --> 02:39:59,957
is it our state rep and state senator?

2650
02:39:59,957 --> 02:40:01,258
>> it is.

2651
02:40:01,258 --> 02:40:05,262
we have state lobbyists as well in the relevant

2652
02:40:05,262 --> 02:40:09,700
agencies would be involved as well. We need a little

2653
02:40:09,700 --> 02:40:14,105
bit of guidance in terms of what exact levers we

2654
02:40:14,105 --> 02:40:14,538
should.

2655
02:40:14,538 --> 02:40:18,976
>> I would gladly take on the state senator peered.

2656
02:40:18,976 --> 02:40:23,414
>> I think it is more than michael and jason.

2657
02:40:23,414 --> 02:40:24,748
it is really.

2658
02:40:24,748 --> 02:40:29,153
>> should we seek what action they would give us?

2659
02:40:29,153 --> 02:40:31,822
>>yeah, it is ron and ron.

2660
02:40:31,822 --> 02:40:37,127
we need to have a meeting with the woman who runs the

2661
02:40:37,127 --> 02:40:38,896
bisque wayne bay preserve.

2662
02:40:38,896 --> 02:40:43,334
>> I actually asked madeleine to set up a meeting.

2663
02:40:43,334 --> 02:40:48,639
I know we are supposed to have a meeting with her on

2664
02:40:48,639 --> 02:40:50,841
the agenda at this point.

2665
02:40:50,841 --> 02:40:55,279
should we make it an essential meeting or bring her

2666
02:40:55,279 --> 02:40:55,713
around?

2667
02:40:55,713 --> 02:41:01,180
>> I think it should be a sunshine meeting so as many

2668
02:41:01,180 --> 02:41:06,790
of us can be there as possible. We are a force when we

2669
02:41:06,790 --> 02:41:07,658
are altogether.

2670
02:41:07,658 --> 02:41:08,559
>> okay.

2671
02:41:08,559 --> 02:41:13,430
dr. Ralph rosado I have a request with madeleine to set

2672
02:41:13,430 --> 02:41:18,302
up a meeting with her and she does have the contact

2673
02:41:18,302 --> 02:41:23,173
details if we can just change that meeting to get a

2674
02:41:23,173 --> 02:41:26,277
sunshine meeting that luther multiple commissioners can

2675
02:41:26,277 --> 02:41:29,813
attend or if she can attend a meeting?

2676
02:41:29,813 --> 02:41:33,784
>> at the next meeting the 6 pm meeting.

2677
02:41:33,784 --> 02:41:37,755
>> sunshine is easy just have to advertise it.

2678
02:41:37,755 --> 02:41:42,626
>> I think the sunshine meeting is the way to go.

2679
02:41:42,626 --> 02:41:48,399
>> we will get that set up. What was her name? I am

2680
02:41:48,399 --> 02:41:50,601
not miller with her. Laura?

2681
02:41:50,601 --> 02:41:51,936
>> laura aldrich?

2682
02:41:51,936 --> 02:41:55,390
I will send it to you later.

2683
02:41:55,390 --> 02:41:56,373
>> that's fine.

2684
02:41:56,373 --> 02:41:57,241
>> okay.

2685
02:41:57,241 --> 02:42:02,112
>> that's the state of florida pit the city of miami?

2686
02:42:02,112 --> 02:42:06,830
>> I would imagine that's the coastal commission and

2687
02:42:06,830 --> 02:42:10,521
that's the mayor. Then I think we need a political

2688
02:42:10,521 --> 02:42:14,580
champions we can set something up with commissioner

2689
02:42:14,580 --> 02:42:18,929
russell so we just have to determine who wants to be

2690
02:42:18,929 --> 02:42:20,698
the lead on that.

2691
02:42:20,698 --> 02:42:25,569
>> I am happy to takemiami and the county if someone

2692
02:42:25,569 --> 02:42:30,441
else wants to take the city of miami, be my guest.

2693
02:42:30,441 --> 02:42:37,810
>> I can do that or I can defer to you. I plenty to do.

2694
02:42:37,810 --> 02:42:41,510
>> marvin is already dealing with the county, right

2695
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:41,518
commit.

2696
02:42:41,518 --> 02:42:43,721
>> the county with sally?

2697
02:42:43,721 --> 02:42:44,154
okay.

2698
02:42:44,154 --> 02:42:48,158
>> I don't have any relationship with mayor soros.

2699
02:42:48,158 --> 02:42:53,300
>> as the doctor says, I think ken russell is probably

2700
02:42:53,300 --> 02:42:57,100
the one we want to talk to on this.

2701
02:42:57,100 --> 02:43:01,438
>> I have already talked to him about water protection

2702
02:43:01,438 --> 02:43:07,177
on a number of levels so sure, I would be happy to talk

2703
02:43:07,177 --> 02:43:08,512
to ken russell.

2704
02:43:08,512 --> 02:43:11,615
>> if you're talking about this areaparticularly,

2705
02:43:11,615 --> 02:43:13,384
that's christine kings territory?

2706
02:43:13,384 --> 02:43:18,255
>> we can set up something with both and we really

2707
02:43:18,255 --> 02:43:19,590
should meet her.

2708
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:24,895
>> she is chairman of the board and you don't want to

2709
02:43:24,895 --> 02:43:26,230
offend her, either.

2710
02:43:26,230 --> 02:43:29,300
>> who wants to somewhat tackle her?

2711
02:43:29,300 --> 02:43:31,969
>> no one is tackling anyone.[laughter]

2712
02:43:31,969 --> 02:43:36,407
>> it depends. It depends on how the meetings go!

2713
02:43:36,407 --> 02:43:36,840
[laughter]

2714
02:43:36,840 --> 02:43:41,278
>> it depends on whether it is you or me.

2715
02:43:41,278 --> 02:43:46,583
>> I will be the point person with the city of miami.

2716
02:43:46,583 --> 02:43:47,451
>> perfect,done.

2717
02:43:47,451 --> 02:43:49,219
>> I don't know!

2718
02:43:49,219 --> 02:43:49,687
[laughter]

2719
02:43:49,687 --> 02:43:50,554
>> done.

2720
02:43:50,554 --> 02:43:55,859
>> let me know if anyone needs any help with anything I

2721
02:43:55,859 --> 02:44:00,297
would be happy to jump in especially with the maritime

2722
02:44:00,297 --> 02:44:04,735
business is concerned. To me that's one of the biggest

2723
02:44:04,735 --> 02:44:06,937
stratus of the whole thing.

2724
02:44:06,937 --> 02:44:11,809
is jesse exploitation of our bay to make a quick buck.

2725
02:44:11,809 --> 02:44:13,577
we cannot have that.

2726
02:44:13,577 --> 02:44:17,548
>> we do need to follow up on this.

2727
02:44:17,548 --> 02:44:22,419
>> we do. It's not enough just to send out the

2728
02:44:22,419 --> 02:44:22,886
proclamation.

2729
02:44:22,886 --> 02:44:26,857
>> no but I also want to manage expectations.

2730
02:44:26,857 --> 02:44:31,729
what were asking these agencies to do is to impose new

2731
02:44:31,729 --> 02:44:32,596
stricter ordinances.

2732
02:44:32,596 --> 02:44:33,630
so,

2733
02:44:33,630 --> 02:44:34,398
>> is it?

2734
02:44:34,398 --> 02:44:40,137
to me I'm not a lawyer but some of these are matters of

2735
02:44:40,137 --> 02:44:40,571
interpretation.

2736
02:44:40,571 --> 02:44:45,800
sensually the reason there is a marine barge with a

2737
02:44:45,800 --> 02:44:49,880
giant billboard on it is because it is categorized as a

2738
02:44:49,880 --> 02:44:50,314
vessel.

2739
02:44:50,314 --> 02:44:51,648
>> I know.

2740
02:44:51,648 --> 02:44:56,520
we discussed it with them and I think that there are

2741
02:44:56,520 --> 02:45:00,491
some wins we can get changing the interpretation is

2742
02:45:00,491 --> 02:45:02,259
certainly one of them.

2743
02:45:02,259 --> 02:45:07,131
but, there are other changes that need to be made and

2744
02:45:07,131 --> 02:45:10,667
thankfully, miami-dade county in one week the county

2745
02:45:10,667 --> 02:45:14,671
commission approved a boat show in the most sensitive

2746
02:45:14,671 --> 02:45:19,543
area in the bay from entities in a year where thousands

2747
02:45:19,543 --> 02:45:23,947
of manatees have died. And after the fact, three days

2748
02:45:23,947 --> 02:45:27,951
later decided it was sufficient for them to have

2749
02:45:27,951 --> 02:45:31,922
goodwill ambassadors that that was going to fix the

2750
02:45:31,922 --> 02:45:32,356
problem.

2751
02:45:32,356 --> 02:45:36,794
>> but there's a difference in terms of motivation to

2752
02:45:36,794 --> 02:45:41,231
act on a show which drives millions of dollars in

2753
02:45:41,231 --> 02:45:45,636
tourism and other benefits to the ime area aside from

2754
02:45:45,636 --> 02:45:48,305
its negative environmental consequences and advertising

2755
02:45:48,305 --> 02:45:52,276
barge that is anchored off the causeway categorizes a

2756
02:45:52,276 --> 02:45:56,280
vessel that has no captain, no supplies probably not

2757
02:45:56,280 --> 02:46:01,151
even a proper motor or any of that stuff. It has

2758
02:46:01,151 --> 02:46:04,688
broken loose from its mooring on multipleoccasions and

2759
02:46:04,688 --> 02:46:07,791
has floated away. It's two different masks.

2760
02:46:07,791 --> 02:46:12,663
>> I know. Again but not everybody thinks the way you

2761
02:46:12,663 --> 02:46:16,200
do and that certainly reflected at the miami-dade

2762
02:46:16,200 --> 02:46:17,670
county commission.

2763
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:22,372
and I am sitting on the beach I am being marketed to,

2764
02:46:22,372 --> 02:46:27,244
not just in the sky thus been happening for decades but

2765
02:46:27,244 --> 02:46:30,781
now they have floating screens on the ocean.

2766
02:46:30,781 --> 02:46:36,553
this is the world we live in. We will do our best, we

2767
02:46:36,553 --> 02:46:40,991
will lobby and meet with people and use the power

2768
02:46:40,991 --> 02:46:45,395
that's been given by our residents and will continue to

2769
02:46:45,395 --> 02:46:46,730
push our agenda.

2770
02:46:46,730 --> 02:46:51,168
>> the lower hanging fruit is getting them to patrol

2771
02:46:51,168 --> 02:46:55,572
these waters more often. If we get nothing beyond that

2772
02:46:55,572 --> 02:46:57,341
it is a win.

2773
02:46:57,341 --> 02:46:58,242
>> okay.

2774
02:46:58,242 --> 02:46:59,576
do we vote?

2775
02:46:59,576 --> 02:47:03,547
>> yes I have a motion by commissioner rachel

2776
02:47:03,547 --> 02:47:03,981
streitfeld.

2777
02:47:03,981 --> 02:47:04,882
>> yes.

2778
02:47:04,882 --> 02:47:06,216
we did vote?

2779
02:47:06,216 --> 02:47:07,840
let's yes.

2780
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:08,852
>> it was unanimous?

2781
02:47:08,852 --> 02:47:14,157
>> I'm sorry, we had a motion but we did not vote.

2782
02:47:14,157 --> 02:47:16,827
>> okay, let's vote, shall we?

2783
02:47:16,827 --> 02:47:19,290
commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner

2784
02:47:19,290 --> 02:47:19,930
richard chervony?

2785
02:47:19,930 --> 02:47:20,364
yes.

2786
02:47:20,364 --> 02:47:21,698
commissioner julianna strout?

2787
02:47:21,698 --> 02:47:22,132
yes.

2788
02:47:22,132 --> 02:47:25,669
vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?

2789
02:47:25,669 --> 02:47:27,437
yes the motion carries.

2790
02:47:27,437 --> 02:47:33,210
>> correct me if I am wrong I think that brings me to

2791
02:47:33,210 --> 02:47:36,747
14 b tran 22. We are moving along.

2792
02:47:36,747 --> 02:47:40,717
this is a resolution presented by either dr. Ralph

2793
02:47:40,717 --> 02:47:43,387
rosado or his designee he met.

2794
02:47:43,387 --> 02:47:48,258
>> I can introduce him and we can answer questions but

2795
02:47:48,258 --> 02:47:52,696
we have an employee who was terminated in february of

2796
02:47:52,696 --> 02:47:55,766
2020 pursuant to collective targeting agreement he

2797
02:47:55,766 --> 02:47:58,869
challenge the termination with the grievance and

2798
02:47:58,869 --> 02:47:59,770
arbitration process.

2799
02:47:59,770 --> 02:48:03,740
the arbitrator sided with his former office later the

2800
02:48:03,740 --> 02:48:07,277
officer to reinstate him and make him whole.

2801
02:48:07,277 --> 02:48:10,847
we entered a settlement agreement and the officer

2802
02:48:10,847 --> 02:48:13,917
agrees to separate from employment effective september

2803
02:48:13,917 --> 02:48:15,252
30th of 2021.

2804
02:48:15,252 --> 02:48:19,256
the total amount due is 238,112 dollars and that

2805
02:48:19,256 --> 02:48:23,226
includes the position that is budgeted in this fiscal

2806
02:48:23,226 --> 02:48:28,980
year as well as a budget amendment to request from the

2807
02:48:28,980 --> 02:48:32,690
general fund balance in the amount of wood and

2808
02:48:32,690 --> 02:48:37,374
$19,400.47 I do want to say on record that we do have

2809
02:48:37,374 --> 02:48:41,378
some money set aside and restrict reserves however we

2810
02:48:41,378 --> 02:48:43,146
only need $119,400 $0.47.

2811
02:48:43,146 --> 02:48:43,580
chief?

2812
02:48:43,580 --> 02:48:44,915
>>.[indiscernable] thank you.

2813
02:48:44,915 --> 02:48:50,220
we spoke to each one of you and gave you a full

2814
02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:54,658
briefing on what happened with this case from start to

2815
02:48:54,658 --> 02:48:59,529
finish. In a nutshellwhat I would feel free to say at

2816
02:48:59,529 --> 02:49:03,934
this point is this month makes six years since I've

2817
02:49:03,934 --> 02:49:04,835
been here.

2818
02:49:04,835 --> 02:49:09,706
when I arrived with his agency it was a fractured toxic

2819
02:49:09,706 --> 02:49:10,140
environment.

2820
02:49:10,140 --> 02:49:14,578
we had several if you will problem individuals that we

2821
02:49:14,578 --> 02:49:18,115
needed to corral and address and work on.

2822
02:49:18,115 --> 02:49:22,850
this particular case, like I said, there was an

2823
02:49:22,850 --> 02:49:24,755
internal affairs investigation which was substantiated

2824
02:49:24,755 --> 02:49:29,626
and there was enough there for us to go ahead and

2825
02:49:29,626 --> 02:49:33,163
terminate peer this was recommended by our labor

2826
02:49:33,163 --> 02:49:38,350
attorney back in to 15 after he reviewed the case and

2827
02:49:38,350 --> 02:49:40,237
the findings of the investigation.

2828
02:49:40,237 --> 02:49:44,675
at that point, myself and the ia investigator at the

2829
02:49:44,675 --> 02:49:49,980
time were let go from the village for a period of time.

2830
02:49:49,980 --> 02:49:53,517
attempts to complete the termination were blocked by

2831
02:49:53,517 --> 02:49:57,954
the admits ration and by the commission at the time.

2832
02:49:57,954 --> 02:50:01,925
when I arrived back that matter was still pending.

2833
02:50:01,925 --> 02:50:06,363
I contacted everybody I needed to including the fdl e

2834
02:50:06,363 --> 02:50:11,234
who made it very clear that it was our obligation to

2835
02:50:11,234 --> 02:50:15,205
complete the investigation and that was also to provide

2836
02:50:15,205 --> 02:50:18,742
fdl e with a copy of the report.

2837
02:50:18,742 --> 02:50:22,279
shortly after the investigation was complete or the

2838
02:50:22,279 --> 02:50:26,283
process was finished, we went ahead and proceeded with

2839
02:50:26,283 --> 02:50:30,721
the termination and the arbitration did not go our way.

2840
02:50:30,721 --> 02:50:35,125
I can comment with the findings of the arbitration and

2841
02:50:35,125 --> 02:50:38,662
my opinions of the arbitration but ultimately the

2842
02:50:38,662 --> 02:50:43,100
arbitrator ruled with the pba in that case. We have

2843
02:50:43,100 --> 02:50:46,636
been very successful with every employment labor matter

2844
02:50:46,636 --> 02:50:51,740
since we arrived here and that was through lawsuits and

2845
02:50:51,740 --> 02:50:55,450
other mediums but this arbitration went sideways on us

2846
02:50:55,450 --> 02:50:58,582
and that was something we could not control.

2847
02:50:58,582 --> 02:51:01,685
ultimately, this officer had committed violations which

2848
02:51:01,685 --> 02:51:05,222
violated our core values which basically violated our

2849
02:51:05,222 --> 02:51:10,930
rules of ethics and morals and it was our position that

2850
02:51:10,930 --> 02:51:15,398
he could not come back in any way shape or form for

2851
02:51:15,398 --> 02:51:16,299
this agency.

2852
02:51:16,299 --> 02:51:21,605
in our briefing to you all we explained rfid on that in

2853
02:51:21,605 --> 02:51:24,274
the background information that we had.

2854
02:51:24,274 --> 02:51:29,579
we made a recommendation to try to find a way to reach

2855
02:51:29,579 --> 02:51:30,447
a settlement.

2856
02:51:30,447 --> 02:51:31,348
we did.

2857
02:51:31,348 --> 02:51:35,318
our attorneys all worked hard to reach a settlement

2858
02:51:35,318 --> 02:51:39,756
that we felt was fair and beneficial to the village.

2859
02:51:39,756 --> 02:51:42,425
that is where we are at.

2860
02:51:42,425 --> 02:51:46,396
carla do you want to comment further on this?

2861
02:51:46,396 --> 02:51:52,135
at the end of the day we are trying to change a culture

2862
02:51:52,135 --> 02:51:56,139
peered we have been very successful in showing people

2863
02:51:56,139 --> 02:52:01,110
the door that needed to be shown the door and very

2864
02:52:01,110 --> 02:52:04,981
successful at bringing people here to our agency that

2865
02:52:04,981 --> 02:52:11,188
are going to take us to where we need to be as a police

2866
02:52:11,188 --> 02:52:15,158
department that is pursuing excellence and the person I

2867
02:52:15,158 --> 02:52:19,596
introduced earlier the new officer that we hired is a

2868
02:52:19,596 --> 02:52:23,567
great example of that. I highly recommend that the

2869
02:52:23,567 --> 02:52:28,400
commission approved this and I am willing to answer any

2870
02:52:28,400 --> 02:52:32,876
questions you might have on this but I think in the

2871
02:52:32,876 --> 02:52:37,747
briefing that I provided each one of you I was very

2872
02:52:37,747 --> 02:52:41,284
thorough and comprehensive and I believe a passionate

2873
02:52:41,284 --> 02:52:42,185
as well.

2874
02:52:42,185 --> 02:52:43,486
>> thank you.

2875
02:52:43,486 --> 02:52:48,792
we do know this is a sensitive matter and it is an

2876
02:52:48,792 --> 02:52:52,796
unfortunate incident matter because what I get from you

2877
02:52:52,796 --> 02:52:57,667
and what would be fair is to be very open and

2878
02:52:57,667 --> 02:53:01,204
completely transparent about all the things that have

2879
02:53:01,204 --> 02:53:05,175
transpired anything that would be a better service to

2880
02:53:05,175 --> 02:53:09,613
residents then sometimes the situations we and up in we

2881
02:53:09,613 --> 02:53:10,513
need circumstances.

2882
02:53:10,513 --> 02:53:15,352
I do have a question in way to provide transparency for

2883
02:53:15,352 --> 02:53:19,789
residents as to why their tax dollars are being paid

2884
02:53:19,789 --> 02:53:22,459
out in a situation like this.

2885
02:53:22,459 --> 02:53:26,863
how much, if any information is it possible to provide

2886
02:53:26,863 --> 02:53:31,301
the public on the events that transpired that led to

2887
02:53:31,301 --> 02:53:32,202
this outcome?

2888
02:53:32,202 --> 02:53:37,941
>> let me ask the deputy chief to come out here but in

2889
02:53:37,941 --> 02:53:41,478
essence this is a proactive investigation and integrity

2890
02:53:41,478 --> 02:53:45,482
test that was conducted by the police department based

2891
02:53:45,482 --> 02:53:48,551
on information we have the integrity investigation

2892
02:53:48,551 --> 02:53:52,555
revealed that the officer in question was willing to

2893
02:53:52,555 --> 02:53:55,659
violate several focal principles and there were

2894
02:53:55,659 --> 02:53:58,295
approximately two dozen violations that were

2895
02:53:58,295 --> 02:54:01,831
substantiated bringing him back at any capacity would

2896
02:54:01,831 --> 02:54:03,166
expose the village.

2897
02:54:03,166 --> 02:54:08,471
any action that he took as a police officer if he came

2898
02:54:08,471 --> 02:54:12,475
back provide significant exposure to the village in the

2899
02:54:12,475 --> 02:54:16,880
extent that the deputy chief and I made several phone

2900
02:54:16,880 --> 02:54:20,450
calls to agency heads that really governed law

2901
02:54:20,450 --> 02:54:24,854
enforcement and fdl e to the miami ethics commission to

2902
02:54:24,854 --> 02:54:30,160
run this case by them and they all felt the same way

2903
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:33,730
that this officer presented a significant liability to

2904
02:54:33,730 --> 02:54:39,350
the village and we had to find a solution to not bring

2905
02:54:39,350 --> 02:54:43,907
him back in spite of the arbitration rule in which I

2906
02:54:43,907 --> 02:54:48,778
have like I said my own personal opinions on the ruling

2907
02:54:48,778 --> 02:54:50,981
and it was extremely flawed.

2908
02:54:50,981 --> 02:54:55,418
>> is the arbitration ruling in a matter of record?

2909
02:54:55,418 --> 02:54:56,720
>> it is.

2910
02:54:56,720 --> 02:54:59,823
>> we can speak openly about that?

2911
02:54:59,823 --> 02:55:02,580
>> so is the investigation.

2912
02:55:02,580 --> 02:55:06,290
we can speak openly about it because the investigation

2913
02:55:06,290 --> 02:55:09,566
is concluded and the arbitration is public record.

2914
02:55:09,566 --> 02:55:13,103
>> that's goodbecause I wasn't sure about that.

2915
02:55:13,103 --> 02:55:17,540
>> whether you want to go into all the details.

2916
02:55:17,540 --> 02:55:19,743
>> I don't want to.

2917
02:55:19,743 --> 02:55:24,614
the point I would like to make is that the arbitration

2918
02:55:24,614 --> 02:55:29,520
because people want to know why we are paying out

2919
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:30,820
$119,000 of taxpayer money.

2920
02:55:30,820 --> 02:55:34,791
>> the arbitration found his due process was violated.

2921
02:55:34,791 --> 02:55:39,229
we obviously know that the notice and the notices of

2922
02:55:39,229 --> 02:55:43,199
termination and all of the little goal obstacles that

2923
02:55:43,199 --> 02:55:46,736
chief noriega experience that prevented this from going

2924
02:55:46,736 --> 02:55:50,273
forward, we know there were reasons for that.

2925
02:55:50,273 --> 02:55:55,612
the judge found it it would be a violation of his due

2926
02:55:55,612 --> 02:55:56,450
process.

2927
02:55:56,450 --> 02:55:57,380
>> the arbitrator?

2928
02:55:57,380 --> 02:55:59,582
>> we have mandatory arbitration.

2929
02:55:59,582 --> 02:56:01,785
there's nothing we can do.

2930
02:56:01,785 --> 02:56:02,685
>> essentially.

2931
02:56:02,685 --> 02:56:07,557
>> there was a 20 month process and the officer was

2932
02:56:07,557 --> 02:56:09,325
notified of the termination.

2933
02:56:09,325 --> 02:56:14,197
>> the issue, to put in a nutshell is that this

2934
02:56:14,197 --> 02:56:17,300
investigation of wrongdoing which there was evidence

2935
02:56:17,300 --> 02:56:22,605
was not pursued in the time that you are not the chief

2936
02:56:22,605 --> 02:56:27,477
of police at north bay village and because of that we

2937
02:56:27,477 --> 02:56:31,448
were unable to terminate the officer based on the

2938
02:56:31,448 --> 02:56:34,984
findings which lead experts to conclude that this

2939
02:56:34,984 --> 02:56:38,988
individual could not be a police officer on duty.

2940
02:56:38,988 --> 02:56:39,856
>> yes.

2941
02:56:39,856 --> 02:56:44,727
that length of time that went by was the due process

2942
02:56:44,727 --> 02:56:48,731
part that the commissioner was referring to. The 14

2943
02:56:48,731 --> 02:56:53,603
months I was gone when I return there was a pending

2944
02:56:53,603 --> 02:56:54,370
lawsuit.

2945
02:56:54,370 --> 02:56:58,908
he filed a lawsuit because based on his actions he was

2946
02:56:58,908 --> 02:57:02,879
skipped on the promotional exam which I had the

2947
02:57:02,879 --> 02:57:05,982
discretion to do under the current contract.

2948
02:57:05,982 --> 02:57:09,953
he filed an age just termination lawsuit and basically

2949
02:57:09,953 --> 02:57:14,390
that lawsuit was dismissed and we won that case and

2950
02:57:14,390 --> 02:57:18,361
that lawsuit and after the lawsuit was concluded we

2951
02:57:18,361 --> 02:57:20,130
proceeded with the termination.

2952
02:57:20,130 --> 02:57:24,567
the reason we did not terminate upon my return 14

2953
02:57:24,567 --> 02:57:28,571
months later because the lawsuit was still pending and

2954
02:57:28,571 --> 02:57:32,542
the attorney assigned to the case from the village

2955
02:57:32,542 --> 02:57:36,513
recommended that we conclude the lawsuit before we did

2956
02:57:36,513 --> 02:57:40,517
any action against the employee and that delayed the

2957
02:57:40,517 --> 02:57:40,950
process.

2958
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:45,822
that 20 month period is what the arbitrator found to be

2959
02:57:45,822 --> 02:57:50,693
a due process issue that they found to be unfair for

2960
02:57:50,693 --> 02:57:51,561
the employee.

2961
02:57:51,561 --> 02:57:55,980
and again, that was outside of our control.

2962
02:57:55,980 --> 02:57:58,668
it happened under the previous administration or couple

2963
02:57:58,668 --> 02:58:01,304
admits rations previously and previous commission.

2964
02:58:01,304 --> 02:58:06,176
as a matter of fact, they failed to take any action

2965
02:58:06,176 --> 02:58:10,179
that was recommended and they failed to meet the

2966
02:58:10,179 --> 02:58:13,716
standards that the state required be met for

2967
02:58:13,716 --> 02:58:15,485
substantiated internal affairs cases.

2968
02:58:15,485 --> 02:58:18,121
>> I'm ready to move on.

2969
02:58:18,121 --> 02:58:20,790
>> were dealing with legacy issues.

2970
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:24,761
>> we have to clean up the whole mess.

2971
02:58:24,761 --> 02:58:27,430
>> I will make a motion.

2972
02:58:27,430 --> 02:58:32,735
>> we have a motion and a second from the vice mayor.

2973
02:58:32,735 --> 02:58:33,636
let's vote.

2974
02:58:33,636 --> 02:58:36,706
>> commissioner richard chervony? Yes vice mayor

2975
02:58:36,706 --> 02:58:37,607
marvin wilmoth?

2976
02:58:37,607 --> 02:58:40,276
yes commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner

2977
02:58:40,276 --> 02:58:43,813
julianna strout? Yes mayor brent latham? Yes mayor,

2978
02:58:43,813 --> 02:58:44,681
motion carries.

2979
02:58:44,681 --> 02:58:49,986
>>okay, 14 b 2 dr. Ralph rosado we give us an update?

2980
02:58:49,986 --> 02:58:50,887
>> absolutely.

2981
02:58:50,887 --> 02:58:54,424
the first several slides is consistent to the

2982
02:58:54,424 --> 02:58:58,394
information you have heard before so I will probably

2983
02:58:58,394 --> 02:59:03,733
skim through those but the idea is we want to have a

2984
02:59:03,733 --> 02:59:08,137
document that we could put out publicly that walks the

2985
02:59:08,137 --> 02:59:13,900
public through the focus will be on the slides that we

2986
02:59:13,900 --> 02:59:17,130
will go parcel by parcel and update we are.

2987
02:59:17,130 --> 02:59:20,984
were talking about the island walk in this particular

2988
02:59:20,984 --> 02:59:25,421
case and we are referring to the perimeter of the

2989
02:59:25,421 --> 02:59:27,624
northern portion of treasure island.

2990
02:59:27,624 --> 02:59:32,610
we have a lovely photo of benihana along the walkway.

2991
02:59:32,610 --> 02:59:37,367
in the case of benihana, I can go ahead and start this

2992
02:59:37,367 --> 02:59:42,672
and we will catch up to the images paired we talk about

2993
02:59:42,672 --> 02:59:46,643
the island walk we are essentially talking about two

2994
02:59:46,643 --> 02:59:50,647
things in many cases hid the aboveground walkway with

2995
02:59:50,647 --> 02:59:54,183
lush landscaping and benches and a righty of

2996
02:59:54,183 --> 02:59:57,720
recreational amenities but were also talking about the

2997
02:59:57,720 --> 02:59:59,489
seawall that buttresses them.

2998
02:59:59,489 --> 03:00:02,592
will create the front variations throughout the

2999
03:00:02,592 --> 03:00:06,562
presentation but the reality is it is both things.

3000
03:00:06,562 --> 03:00:10,566
the reason why we featured benihana on the covered

3001
03:00:10,566 --> 03:00:15,438
delay cover is it is the only segment that has a

3002
03:00:15,438 --> 03:00:19,409
brand-new seawall that meets our new design criteria as

3003
03:00:19,409 --> 03:00:23,846
well as having an island walk above it that doesn't

3004
03:00:23,846 --> 03:00:27,383
quite meet the current design criteria but nonetheless

3005
03:00:27,383 --> 03:00:31,354
unlikely to change because it is fully flushed out.

3006
03:00:31,354 --> 03:00:36,225
so, you have another image of the rear a daytime shot

3007
03:00:36,225 --> 03:00:41,970
of the area behind benihana as well as the rendering of

3008
03:00:41,970 --> 03:00:45,968
the master plan of what it could look like if fully

3009
03:00:45,968 --> 03:00:46,869
built out.

3010
03:00:46,869 --> 03:00:51,274
again, and going to race through the first few because

3011
03:00:51,274 --> 03:00:53,943
you've heard a similar variation before.

3012
03:00:53,943 --> 03:00:58,381
there's a variety of reasons that make sense to support

3013
03:00:58,381 --> 03:00:59,682
the overall project.

3014
03:00:59,682 --> 03:01:04,554
it is a public amenity that the public can enjoy all

3015
03:01:04,554 --> 03:01:08,910
year-round. We talked earlier about ranting and this

3016
03:01:08,910 --> 03:01:12,950
could definitely help us brand the village. This can

3017
03:01:12,950 --> 03:01:16,499
bring folks into the village where they can spend hard

3018
03:01:16,499 --> 03:01:20,503
earned dollars locally and provides space of the public

3019
03:01:20,503 --> 03:01:24,907
paired there's place for public art and we talked about

3020
03:01:24,907 --> 03:01:28,100
the environment this evening, dolphins are now

3021
03:01:28,100 --> 03:01:32,448
officially part of our logo and not something you can

3022
03:01:32,448 --> 03:01:36,886
see if you're fortunate to be your any of these

3023
03:01:36,886 --> 03:01:40,423
properties and from a financial perspective all of

3024
03:01:40,423 --> 03:01:43,526
these things individually or collectively these enhance

3025
03:01:43,526 --> 03:01:45,728
property values in the community.

3026
03:01:45,728 --> 03:01:50,166
the next few slides are going to go through quickly.

3027
03:01:50,166 --> 03:01:54,570
we've never done a full benefit cost analysis of the

3028
03:01:54,570 --> 03:01:59,800
financial value of doing the island walk but we know

3029
03:01:59,800 --> 03:02:02,545
based on comparable projects it's very good for

3030
03:02:02,545 --> 03:02:05,648
property values and investments you make in

3031
03:02:05,648 --> 03:02:08,751
infrastructure and helping to preserve properties are

3032
03:02:08,751 --> 03:02:11,854
certainly incredibly valuable and we recognize that

3033
03:02:11,854 --> 03:02:16,259
also it helps to attract real estate investment so pays

3034
03:02:16,259 --> 03:02:21,597
for itself not only in the long run but in the short

3035
03:02:21,597 --> 03:02:24,667
run see if we can move forward.

3036
03:02:24,667 --> 03:02:30,600
and so, we looked at two studies one being done at the

3037
03:02:30,600 --> 03:02:33,750
macarthur causeway and the other through miami-dade

3038
03:02:33,750 --> 03:02:37,790
county and it shows that these things pay for

3039
03:02:37,790 --> 03:02:39,715
themselves within just a few years.

3040
03:02:39,715 --> 03:02:43,719
okay. From a more technical perspective we have abby

3041
03:02:43,719 --> 03:02:48,124
wilson who's been working with us very closely on the

3042
03:02:48,124 --> 03:02:52,995
seawall is been done to date so if you have any

3043
03:02:52,995 --> 03:02:56,566
technical questions I would absolutely yield to abby

3044
03:02:56,566 --> 03:03:00,536
who is available via zoom. Abby, are you there?

3045
03:03:00,536 --> 03:03:02,305
is she a muted?

3046
03:03:02,305 --> 03:03:03,639
okay, >> sorry.

3047
03:03:03,639 --> 03:03:06,742
I didn't know I could unmute myself.

3048
03:03:06,742 --> 03:03:08,511
>> not a problem.

3049
03:03:08,511 --> 03:03:12,915
we already know the value of doing this as an

3050
03:03:12,915 --> 03:03:16,919
attraction and economic element driver but we also had

3051
03:03:16,919 --> 03:03:20,890
her do some research on benefit cost analysis for

3052
03:03:20,890 --> 03:03:21,791
improving seawall's.

3053
03:03:21,791 --> 03:03:25,761
leno that is a structural concern and something that

3054
03:03:25,761 --> 03:03:27,964
should be done over time.

3055
03:03:27,964 --> 03:03:33,302
think I'm going to have her walk us through this but we

3056
03:03:33,302 --> 03:03:37,707
did a boat tour, we looked at seawall heights ended

3057
03:03:37,707 --> 03:03:41,244
projections for the value of renovating the seawall

3058
03:03:41,244 --> 03:03:45,248
along the perimeter and what would be to preserve

3059
03:03:45,248 --> 03:03:47,450
property values given sealevel rise.

3060
03:03:47,450 --> 03:03:52,755
if you want to run through some of the numbers that you

3061
03:03:52,755 --> 03:03:53,656
all prepared?

3062
03:03:53,656 --> 03:03:54,900
should.

3063
03:03:54,900 --> 03:03:54,991
>> sure.

3064
03:03:54,991 --> 03:04:00,296
I guess starting on this slide we took a look at what

3065
03:04:00,296 --> 03:04:05,167
the seawall czar and who is the worst offender and what

3066
03:04:05,167 --> 03:04:10,390
that means in terms of impact, if they are not raised,

3067
03:04:10,390 --> 03:04:14,911
what kind of impacts can the village expect to see both

3068
03:04:14,911 --> 03:04:18,881
from a building perspective but also from an overall

3069
03:04:18,881 --> 03:04:19,315
perspective.

3070
03:04:19,315 --> 03:04:24,186
due to lower seawall's allow the water to come into the

3071
03:04:24,186 --> 03:04:25,955
causeway and increase flooding?

3072
03:04:25,955 --> 03:04:31,260
those are some of the items we look at when doing these

3073
03:04:31,260 --> 03:04:33,290
high-level benefit cost analysis.

3074
03:04:33,290 --> 03:04:34,830
that's just a caveat.

3075
03:04:34,830 --> 03:04:39,235
we talk about the benefit cost analysis is a very

3076
03:04:39,235 --> 03:04:43,239
specific process that goes pretty in-depth line by line

3077
03:04:43,239 --> 03:04:48,110
and that was that first initial look to see what the

3078
03:04:48,110 --> 03:04:52,949
village is getting in terms of is it really worth it

3079
03:04:52,949 --> 03:04:56,520
for the village to put this money?

3080
03:04:56,520 --> 03:05:00,923
what are the benefits they are getting from it from a

3081
03:05:00,923 --> 03:05:02,258
high level perspective.

3082
03:05:02,258 --> 03:05:07,997
if you would like to move on to the next slide we can

3083
03:05:07,997 --> 03:05:12,435
run through a couple. These are a couple photos from

3084
03:05:12,435 --> 03:05:13,769
the existing wall.

3085
03:05:13,769 --> 03:05:19,750
you can see any harness wall and this is nice and high

3086
03:05:19,750 --> 03:05:24,380
but then we have the wall I do believe the top right

3087
03:05:24,380 --> 03:05:29,251
picture is near the channel 7 property and this is just

3088
03:05:29,251 --> 03:05:34,123
east of 1725 the bottom picture to the property on the

3089
03:05:34,123 --> 03:05:39,428
right of the wall is 1725 kennedy and then this is in

3090
03:05:39,428 --> 03:05:40,763
that parking lot.

3091
03:05:40,763 --> 03:05:43,866
near the best western, I do believe.

3092
03:05:43,866 --> 03:05:49,171
that wall had failed at one point in time and I know

3093
03:05:49,171 --> 03:05:51,841
there's flooding in that location, currently.

3094
03:05:51,841 --> 03:05:57,580
those are some of the items we look at when we look at

3095
03:05:57,580 --> 03:06:01,117
the various wall and what is there currently.

3096
03:06:01,117 --> 03:06:06,455
so, we did a quick review of the survey data that we

3097
03:06:06,455 --> 03:06:09,525
previously collected during our design criteria package

3098
03:06:09,525 --> 03:06:14,397
that we had put together for the village and we went

3099
03:06:14,397 --> 03:06:17,967
parcel by parcel looking at their current seawall

3100
03:06:17,967 --> 03:06:21,937
elevations and this was the lowest point of the

3101
03:06:21,937 --> 03:06:22,371
seawall.

3102
03:06:22,371 --> 03:06:27,243
we did not take an average but with that lowest point

3103
03:06:27,243 --> 03:06:30,780
it does allow water to enter the site.

3104
03:06:30,780 --> 03:06:35,217
we looked at the current state based on the highest

3105
03:06:35,217 --> 03:06:36,986
king tied on record.

3106
03:06:36,986 --> 03:06:41,857
this doesn't just look at the storm surge it looks at

3107
03:06:41,857 --> 03:06:43,192
king tied even.

3108
03:06:43,192 --> 03:06:47,163
there are two properties, these two right here that

3109
03:06:47,163 --> 03:06:50,266
already get flooded during king tied events.

3110
03:06:50,266 --> 03:06:55,137
we start to look at sealevel rise and projecting out to

3111
03:06:55,137 --> 03:07:00,443
2040 not just in the future but less than 20 years in

3112
03:07:00,443 --> 03:07:03,979
the future with the current sealevel rise prediction

3113
03:07:03,979 --> 03:07:07,983
you notice there's a whole lot more properties sitting

3114
03:07:07,983 --> 03:07:12,388
below the threshold of the king tied. If you look

3115
03:07:12,388 --> 03:07:16,826
outto 20 7050 years from now all but six properties

3116
03:07:16,826 --> 03:07:20,796
really don't meet that threshold benihana and the other

3117
03:07:20,796 --> 03:07:22,565
one is right here.

3118
03:07:22,565 --> 03:07:27,200
this almost meets that criteria but is about 20 inches

3119
03:07:27,200 --> 03:07:27,436
higher.

3120
03:07:27,436 --> 03:07:32,741
if you look at a property of its flooded what kind of

3121
03:07:32,741 --> 03:07:34,977
economic impact does that have?

3122
03:07:34,977 --> 03:07:39,381
the various king tied events we looked at 2040 this

3123
03:07:39,381 --> 03:07:42,510
puts a loss of $10 million.

3124
03:07:42,510 --> 03:07:46,922
how we did that, if the property was deemed to be

3125
03:07:46,922 --> 03:07:51,360
flooded by an event we looked at the assessed value

3126
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:55,331
obviously understand we went with a large overview with

3127
03:07:55,331 --> 03:07:59,301
the public data that was available from the public

3128
03:07:59,301 --> 03:08:03,305
appraiser's office. This was a way to not automated

3129
03:08:03,305 --> 03:08:07,276
but standardize it we looked at the assessed value.

3130
03:08:07,276 --> 03:08:12,148
we assumed there would be a 25 percent value loss for

3131
03:08:12,148 --> 03:08:15,684
any property that was flooded during king tied.

3132
03:08:15,684 --> 03:08:19,688
obviously the whole building is not impacted it does

3133
03:08:19,688 --> 03:08:20,990
cause some issues.

3134
03:08:20,990 --> 03:08:24,994
in the 2040 event for those properties that were

3135
03:08:24,994 --> 03:08:29,865
flooded we assume there is a 25 percent impact on those

3136
03:08:29,865 --> 03:08:34,737
property values and we came up with a value from there.

3137
03:08:34,737 --> 03:08:40,476
that is why we are at nine point 45 rounded up to 10

3138
03:08:40,476 --> 03:08:40,910
million.

3139
03:08:40,910 --> 03:08:44,480
these are conservative number values but they don't

3140
03:08:44,480 --> 03:08:47,550
take into account specifics like infrastructure or

3141
03:08:47,550 --> 03:08:50,219
dollar losses associated with that loss.

3142
03:08:50,219 --> 03:08:54,190
just saying benihana for a restaurant if they are

3143
03:08:54,190 --> 03:08:58,194
interrupted service all the days they are lost and

3144
03:08:58,194 --> 03:09:02,164
revenue lost during those services we are not taking

3145
03:09:02,164 --> 03:09:03,650
into account.

3146
03:09:03,650 --> 03:09:05,701
the sisterly from the infrastructure perspective.

3147
03:09:05,701 --> 03:09:09,705
and also, two, one thing to note these properties

3148
03:09:09,705 --> 03:09:13,676
generate tax revenue in north bay village between one

3149
03:09:13,676 --> 03:09:17,213
quarter million to half a million annually new

3150
03:09:17,213 --> 03:09:20,316
developments that come along north of kennedy

3151
03:09:20,316 --> 03:09:23,419
especially with those higher density allowances and

3152
03:09:23,419 --> 03:09:26,956
relaxed height restrictions allow the tax revenue to

3153
03:09:26,956 --> 03:09:30,492
increase dramatically but then also comes back into

3154
03:09:30,492 --> 03:09:34,496
what are the economic impacts of a higher value

3155
03:09:34,496 --> 03:09:37,132
building? Really protecting those properties moving

3156
03:09:37,132 --> 03:09:40,236
forward is best in everyone's economic endeavors.

3157
03:09:40,236 --> 03:09:43,339
let's go on to the next slide.

3158
03:09:43,339 --> 03:09:45,541
>> I can take it.

3159
03:09:45,541 --> 03:09:49,780
by all means feel free to chime in.

3160
03:09:49,780 --> 03:09:53,515
this is an important slide talk about what is happened

3161
03:09:53,515 --> 03:09:54,416
this year.

3162
03:09:54,416 --> 03:09:58,821
although we haven't had this item on the agenda we've

3163
03:09:58,821 --> 03:10:02,358
made progress in a variety of things including

3164
03:10:02,358 --> 03:10:05,461
establishing design criteria for seawall's in the

3165
03:10:05,461 --> 03:10:09,465
village and the island walk specifically for this area.

3166
03:10:09,465 --> 03:10:13,869
we did not have consistent standards before and I think

3167
03:10:13,869 --> 03:10:17,873
we all realize that folks are building seawalls a

3168
03:10:17,873 --> 03:10:20,509
different height with different materials without

3169
03:10:20,509 --> 03:10:24,513
consistency and we now have a specific high standards

3170
03:10:24,513 --> 03:10:28,918
which could help properties for many years to come and

3171
03:10:28,918 --> 03:10:30,252
that's very important.

3172
03:10:30,252 --> 03:10:34,223
in addition the commissioner this year adopted a design

3173
03:10:34,223 --> 03:10:38,227
criteria for the island walk and now we have

3174
03:10:38,227 --> 03:10:39,561
consistency in design.

3175
03:10:39,561 --> 03:10:41,764
we didn't have it before.

3176
03:10:41,764 --> 03:10:45,734
many buildings have it in arrears the easements are

3177
03:10:45,734 --> 03:10:49,271
difference in the look is completely unrelated from

3178
03:10:49,271 --> 03:10:53,275
property to property and they aren't even joining the

3179
03:10:53,275 --> 03:10:56,812
adjacent properties that they developed. We now have

3180
03:10:56,812 --> 03:11:00,783
clear expectations some folks would like to go above

3181
03:11:00,783 --> 03:11:05,220
and beyond that we at least have these minimums that

3182
03:11:05,220 --> 03:11:10,920
are better than what's been adopted in the past so it's

3183
03:11:10,920 --> 03:11:11,860
a huge step forward.

3184
03:11:11,860 --> 03:11:16,298
in addition and this is big even though it seems

3185
03:11:16,298 --> 03:11:20,703
unrelated is closely related and has had an impact on

3186
03:11:20,703 --> 03:11:24,239
real estate in the causeway properties themselves have

3187
03:11:24,239 --> 03:11:29,111
led to a terminus investment in a short period of time

3188
03:11:29,111 --> 03:11:33,115
and we do have a spreadsheet that calculates revenue

3189
03:11:33,115 --> 03:11:37,987
for the village we had $94 million of property sales on

3190
03:11:37,987 --> 03:11:40,622
the causeway february which is astronomical.

3191
03:11:40,622 --> 03:11:45,600
what that does is shows faith in leadership which is

3192
03:11:45,600 --> 03:11:49,498
very important but it also means that folks are no

3193
03:11:49,498 --> 03:11:53,350
longer deterred or perhaps scared reluctant to invest

3194
03:11:53,350 --> 03:11:57,439
in north bay village and we know that these projects

3195
03:11:57,439 --> 03:12:01,443
will come forward where they themselves will the bulk

3196
03:12:01,443 --> 03:12:05,848
of the work and then finally the fourth bullet is

3197
03:12:05,848 --> 03:12:10,719
something I put in because it's a way of been thinking

3198
03:12:10,719 --> 03:12:14,289
about it but not necessarily characterized it the

3199
03:12:14,289 --> 03:12:19,128
island is one project we didn't design as one thing all

3200
03:12:19,128 --> 03:12:23,565
at one time but it is many independent projects with

3201
03:12:23,565 --> 03:12:27,102
properties owned by individual property owners and in

3202
03:12:27,102 --> 03:12:32,408
many cases we will have a role but it is many things

3203
03:12:32,408 --> 03:12:36,412
being put together that collectively will result in one

3204
03:12:36,412 --> 03:12:37,279
continuous project.

3205
03:12:37,279 --> 03:12:40,816
more importantly, here's the part of the presentation

3206
03:12:40,816 --> 03:12:46,155
that is key so we can talk about what the next steps

3207
03:12:46,155 --> 03:12:47,220
really are.

3208
03:12:47,220 --> 03:12:48,357
next slide please.

3209
03:12:48,357 --> 03:12:53,228
these are the parcels that compose it. We have a few

3210
03:12:53,228 --> 03:12:56,331
that are actually self of the causeway.

3211
03:12:56,331 --> 03:13:01,203
we've got I'm going to go through these in as logical

3212
03:13:01,203 --> 03:13:05,607
an order as possible. 17 is grandview palace and as

3213
03:13:05,607 --> 03:13:10,479
you know three of the property has been ill for many

3214
03:13:10,479 --> 03:13:14,483
years and we don't excite to see changes there.

3215
03:13:14,483 --> 03:13:19,354
16 a cell plaza which was completed about two years ago

3216
03:13:19,354 --> 03:13:24,226
at this point and we don't expect to see changes there.

3217
03:13:24,226 --> 03:13:29,531
the other ones all go through on the other sites we can

3218
03:13:29,531 --> 03:13:34,837
talk about them but if we want to leave them up let's

3219
03:13:34,837 --> 03:13:35,704
do that.

3220
03:13:35,704 --> 03:13:40,142
I will talk about what's going on at the different

3221
03:13:40,142 --> 03:13:43,679
properties. Number 7 is benihana there's nothing for

3222
03:13:43,679 --> 03:13:45,447
us to do there.

3223
03:13:45,447 --> 03:13:48,116
they meet the various standards, etc.

3224
03:13:48,116 --> 03:13:51,220
nothing needs to be done moving forward.

3225
03:13:51,220 --> 03:13:54,756
the second type of property south grandview palace

3226
03:13:54,756 --> 03:13:59,628
there seawall is not as high as we would like but

3227
03:13:59,628 --> 03:14:03,165
there's no expectation that that will change anytime

3228
03:14:03,165 --> 03:14:07,135
soon and we do have public access but there.

3229
03:14:07,135 --> 03:14:11,573
the third type of property is that reflected by bayview

3230
03:14:11,573 --> 03:14:15,110
condominium number 6 on the screen here bridgewater

3231
03:14:15,110 --> 03:14:19,548
condominium which is number 13 on the screen these were

3232
03:14:19,548 --> 03:14:23,850
built approximately 15 years ago. They built some

3233
03:14:23,850 --> 03:14:28,390
version of the island walk and in both cases is not as

3234
03:14:28,390 --> 03:14:32,361
wide, lush or amenity rich as we would like.

3235
03:14:32,361 --> 03:14:37,232
it is not the criteria and there seawall are in good

3236
03:14:37,232 --> 03:14:41,670
shape and there's probably not going to be any change

3237
03:14:41,670 --> 03:14:44,339
on them for the foreseeable future.

3238
03:14:44,339 --> 03:14:49,211
the other property is north plaza that is owned by fdo

3239
03:14:49,211 --> 03:14:54,516
t for which we have a long-term lease and we have an

3240
03:14:54,516 --> 03:14:58,921
agenda item from january to show you the design that

3241
03:14:58,921 --> 03:15:02,925
was more circulated more recently than that because we

3242
03:15:02,925 --> 03:15:07,796
do have a full draft and that's one where we are

3243
03:15:07,796 --> 03:15:08,230
responsible.

3244
03:15:08,230 --> 03:15:13,535
we have a sizable grant from fdo t and next year we

3245
03:15:13,535 --> 03:15:18,407
should apply for a grant to help match that because the

3246
03:15:18,407 --> 03:15:21,944
project is expected because between 1.3 and 1.6

3247
03:15:21,944 --> 03:15:22,411
million.

3248
03:15:22,411 --> 03:15:26,381
design is underway and permitting will be underway and

3249
03:15:26,381 --> 03:15:30,352
construction could be underway as soon as next october.

3250
03:15:30,352 --> 03:15:33,455
>> is that to do the seawall?

3251
03:15:33,455 --> 03:15:38,327
>> we don't have funding for the seawall. It does not

3252
03:15:38,327 --> 03:15:41,863
meet our design criteria but nonetheless we don't

3253
03:15:41,863 --> 03:15:43,632
expect to change it.

3254
03:15:43,632 --> 03:15:48,503
it is in relatively good shape even though the we don't

3255
03:15:48,503 --> 03:15:52,507
have an interest in doing that. There's no flooding

3256
03:15:52,507 --> 03:15:55,143
there or any of those issues.

3257
03:15:55,143 --> 03:15:59,581
the next type of property component we have to deal

3258
03:15:59,581 --> 03:16:04,190
with is number 15 the connection under the bridges and

3259
03:16:04,190 --> 03:16:08,423
for different reasons we've had to hold off on that

3260
03:16:08,423 --> 03:16:11,960
because were the only agency interested in putting

3261
03:16:11,960 --> 03:16:13,295
money on that.

3262
03:16:13,295 --> 03:16:18,166
we do have some grant funding but it is also grant

3263
03:16:18,166 --> 03:16:22,137
funding or other funding that competes with other park

3264
03:16:22,137 --> 03:16:23,380
related priorities.

3265
03:16:23,380 --> 03:16:27,900
there's always been something else whether it's the dog

3266
03:16:27,900 --> 03:16:31,446
park where we need those dollars to do something over

3267
03:16:31,446 --> 03:16:31,880
there.

3268
03:16:31,880 --> 03:16:37,185
this is one that we can move forward with at this time

3269
03:16:37,185 --> 03:16:42,524
we can hire a firm and move forward with the design and

3270
03:16:42,524 --> 03:16:46,928
get that underway and there's no particular rush to do

3271
03:16:46,928 --> 03:16:50,465
construction which is more expensive and there's no

3272
03:16:50,465 --> 03:16:54,903
rush to do construction anytime soon but we do have

3273
03:16:54,903 --> 03:16:56,672
design dollars for that.

3274
03:16:56,672 --> 03:17:01,109
property type number 6 is parcel number 11 which is

3275
03:17:01,109 --> 03:17:06,415
best western which has been in a state of flux as the

3276
03:17:06,415 --> 03:17:10,852
mayor has mentioned over the last couple of years where

3277
03:17:10,852 --> 03:17:15,724
they propose to do one kind of project and then another

3278
03:17:15,724 --> 03:17:18,360
and it's changed back and forth.

3279
03:17:18,360 --> 03:17:23,231
we have never had an easement over the rear of best

3280
03:17:23,231 --> 03:17:27,202
western peer to don't have that presently. Thatsaid it

3281
03:17:27,202 --> 03:17:31,206
looks like they are finally moving forward with some

3282
03:17:31,206 --> 03:17:35,644
sort of redevelopment plan which in one case we could

3283
03:17:35,644 --> 03:17:40,480
require the easement to be in place but it doesn't

3284
03:17:40,480 --> 03:17:44,520
appear that any grant dollars or anything would be

3285
03:17:44,520 --> 03:17:48,230
needed from the village because the rear of the

3286
03:17:48,230 --> 03:17:49,791
property is built out.

3287
03:17:49,791 --> 03:17:54,663
what would happen is we would have access over the rear

3288
03:17:54,663 --> 03:17:59,534
deck of the restaurant and the tables would need to be

3289
03:17:59,534 --> 03:18:04,406
configured a little bit and it does appear we have a

3290
03:18:04,406 --> 03:18:08,810
financial role in this but for site plan approval you

3291
03:18:08,810 --> 03:18:13,248
all have access to it so we will be contiguous.

3292
03:18:13,248 --> 03:18:18,120
so far except for the under bridge part in north plaza

3293
03:18:18,120 --> 03:18:22,900
haven't talked about anything the village has to pay

3294
03:18:22,900 --> 03:18:26,528
money and that could also be with a few other

3295
03:18:26,528 --> 03:18:26,962
instances.

3296
03:18:26,962 --> 03:18:31,400
there is a large type of property cohort which includes

3297
03:18:31,400 --> 03:18:34,936
properties one through five which are now under

3298
03:18:34,936 --> 03:18:38,473
singular ownership or before these were comprised of

3299
03:18:38,473 --> 03:18:41,576
different entities and everybody had different plans

3300
03:18:41,576 --> 03:18:46,448
and was not moving forward and it was difficult to get

3301
03:18:46,448 --> 03:18:47,349
anything done.

3302
03:18:47,349 --> 03:18:49,985
that is no longer the case.

3303
03:18:49,985 --> 03:18:54,422
the company that owns a tv station but multiple lots

3304
03:18:54,422 --> 03:18:59,294
adjacent to them. In fact I meeting with them in a

3305
03:18:59,294 --> 03:19:03,698
couple days to go over what the process looks like.

3306
03:19:03,698 --> 03:19:08,570
they have not defined what they are going to build but

3307
03:19:08,570 --> 03:19:13,800
give 10 waterfront acres in the village and they will

3308
03:19:13,800 --> 03:19:16,545
probably do multiple buildings and were very supportive

3309
03:19:16,545 --> 03:19:20,982
of the project and it's a very different posture than

3310
03:19:20,982 --> 03:19:25,854
they had a couple years ago were they said build a

3311
03:19:25,854 --> 03:19:28,957
project anywhere except on the tv station.

3312
03:19:28,957 --> 03:19:33,829
they did not have access to the rear because they were

3313
03:19:33,829 --> 03:19:38,233
tv station and they were sensitive to having pete will

3314
03:19:38,233 --> 03:19:43,104
on the property but that is no longer the issue peer

3315
03:19:43,104 --> 03:19:47,542
the tv station will move to broward in which the

3316
03:19:47,542 --> 03:19:51,790
building disappears and they have a lengthy walk.

3317
03:19:51,790 --> 03:19:55,517
they are one third of the entire project they are

3318
03:19:55,517 --> 03:19:59,488
moving forward and we can get this done were

3319
03:19:59,488 --> 03:20:03,458
essentially they are doing the heavy lifting and we

3320
03:20:03,458 --> 03:20:07,896
have an easement agreement for parcel one and the other

3321
03:20:07,896 --> 03:20:09,664
we have agreements with.

3322
03:20:09,664 --> 03:20:14,102
the other parcels that will be redeveloped and one has

3323
03:20:14,102 --> 03:20:18,974
come with the site plan actually they both come with a

3324
03:20:18,974 --> 03:20:23,845
site plan but one of them is making major revision some

3325
03:20:23,845 --> 03:20:28,717
minor revisions but we expect one to be on the planning

3326
03:20:28,717 --> 03:20:33,121
and zoning agenda on that is parcel number 10 the

3327
03:20:33,121 --> 03:20:35,323
overflow parking lot near shockers.

3328
03:20:35,323 --> 03:20:40,195
again up with a project and they came up with the

3329
03:20:40,195 --> 03:20:45,660
island walk and we will follow the design to atn this

3330
03:20:45,660 --> 03:20:47,736
is one that will be built.

3331
03:20:47,736 --> 03:20:52,173
they have approached us to be their partner. This is

3332
03:20:52,173 --> 03:20:56,144
one where we have a large public and private

3333
03:20:56,144 --> 03:20:58,346
relationship that will move forward.

3334
03:20:58,346 --> 03:21:03,685
the way this would work is we would have to enter into

3335
03:21:03,685 --> 03:21:08,890
an agreement have a sample on the agenda package the

3336
03:21:08,890 --> 03:21:12,527
shows we will work with them. We are the grant

3337
03:21:12,527 --> 03:21:16,932
recipient and the grant can't go directly to the public

3338
03:21:16,932 --> 03:21:20,502
party wu are the lead in that sense.

3339
03:21:20,502 --> 03:21:23,571
the matching dollars involved could completely come

3340
03:21:23,571 --> 03:21:25,373
from the private entity.

3341
03:21:25,373 --> 03:21:29,344
they are saving the cost of design and ultimately

3342
03:21:29,344 --> 03:21:33,782
crating their own seawall and we would have to make

3343
03:21:33,782 --> 03:21:37,752
sure that design is something that will not flood.

3344
03:21:37,752 --> 03:21:41,723
ideally because of this involved we would reimburse the

3345
03:21:41,723 --> 03:21:46,595
backend at the grant and along the way we could have

3346
03:21:46,595 --> 03:21:49,264
payments from the private property owner.

3347
03:21:49,264 --> 03:21:53,702
this puts us in a good position where ultimately we

3348
03:21:53,702 --> 03:21:55,904
could get our money back.

3349
03:21:55,904 --> 03:22:00,775
the project is filled the grants are closed out and we

3350
03:22:00,775 --> 03:22:04,746
have a large section that is completed. That's also

3351
03:22:04,746 --> 03:22:09,617
the case of the property to the immediate west which is

3352
03:22:09,617 --> 03:22:14,923
graded out of a firm out of new york that both the

3353
03:22:14,923 --> 03:22:16,691
parcel earlier this year.

3354
03:22:16,691 --> 03:22:21,129
they are moving a little slower and they are creating

3355
03:22:21,129 --> 03:22:26,100
more revisions and I reached out to them today to see

3356
03:22:26,100 --> 03:22:30,872
where they are at in the process, have they slow down

3357
03:22:30,872 --> 03:22:35,744
the project, where are they coming in but they say they

3358
03:22:35,744 --> 03:22:39,714
will create the design criteria and they're happy to

3359
03:22:39,714 --> 03:22:40,148
partner.

3360
03:22:40,148 --> 03:22:45,200
it just depends where they are in the process but they

3361
03:22:45,200 --> 03:22:45,920
are comparable.

3362
03:22:45,920 --> 03:22:49,240
>> let me ask you a question.

3363
03:22:49,240 --> 03:22:53,895
what me stop you there. I have a question about the

3364
03:22:53,895 --> 03:22:55,230
logic of that.

3365
03:22:55,230 --> 03:23:00,680
I get why the developers would want the grant money to

3366
03:23:00,680 --> 03:23:04,939
build a seawall and the island walk it makes sense but

3367
03:23:04,939 --> 03:23:08,943
I don't think the village loses anything except some

3368
03:23:08,943 --> 03:23:12,914
grant application time in terms of making that happen.

3369
03:23:12,914 --> 03:23:14,249
that seems fine.

3370
03:23:14,249 --> 03:23:18,686
by our code they are already obligated to do these

3371
03:23:18,686 --> 03:23:19,120
things.

3372
03:23:19,120 --> 03:23:23,558
if they want to build their buildings they have to

3373
03:23:23,558 --> 03:23:27,529
provide an island walk they seawall at the cove.

3374
03:23:27,529 --> 03:23:31,499
that's an argument of why would the village do

3375
03:23:31,499 --> 03:23:31,966
anything?

3376
03:23:31,966 --> 03:23:36,838
we have to spent staff time and commission to make it

3377
03:23:36,838 --> 03:23:40,809
happen but certainly why would the village front the

3378
03:23:40,809 --> 03:23:42,577
money take any risk?

3379
03:23:42,577 --> 03:23:47,150
there is some risk there by don't understand the logic.

3380
03:23:47,150 --> 03:23:49,217
>> there is some risk.

3381
03:23:49,217 --> 03:23:54,522
if you decide to move forward we could figure out a way

3382
03:23:54,522 --> 03:23:55,423
to-

3383
03:23:55,423 --> 03:23:55,857
>>mitigate?

3384
03:23:55,857 --> 03:24:01,162
>> I'm going to say this as easy as possible but maybe

3385
03:24:01,162 --> 03:24:02,497
some additional concessions?

3386
03:24:02,497 --> 03:24:06,468
>> it would have to be worth our while.

3387
03:24:06,468 --> 03:24:10,472
there would have to be significant concessions in there

3388
03:24:10,472 --> 03:24:13,108
because were talking millions of dollars.

3389
03:24:13,108 --> 03:24:14,876
I think you understand.

3390
03:24:14,876 --> 03:24:15,777
>> okay.

3391
03:24:15,777 --> 03:24:20,648
number 12 and this is one where there's more of a

3392
03:24:20,648 --> 03:24:25,520
reason for us to get involved but number 12 is kennedy

3393
03:24:25,520 --> 03:24:25,954
house.

3394
03:24:25,954 --> 03:24:30,391
we don't have an agreement there and is unlikely we

3395
03:24:30,391 --> 03:24:31,259
should have.

3396
03:24:31,259 --> 03:24:36,131
they are under an issue where there seawall is not up

3397
03:24:36,131 --> 03:24:40,568
to code. Having done the building audit they have to

3398
03:24:40,568 --> 03:24:41,903
renovate their seawall.

3399
03:24:41,903 --> 03:24:46,307
reno they need funding and they would like to be

3400
03:24:46,307 --> 03:24:50,745
subsidized and as part of that we would require the

3401
03:24:50,745 --> 03:24:54,716
easement agreement that would give us access to the

3402
03:24:54,716 --> 03:24:56,484
rear of the property.

3403
03:24:56,484 --> 03:24:59,587
otherwise they would break up the continuity.

3404
03:24:59,587 --> 03:25:04,893
I don't know if I need to ask lane anything there but

3405
03:25:04,893 --> 03:25:09,330
I'm hoping in the next two commission meetings we come

3406
03:25:09,330 --> 03:25:13,768
into agreement where we could be a partner on this

3407
03:25:13,768 --> 03:25:18,173
otherwise if they paid for everything on their own they

3408
03:25:18,173 --> 03:25:21,276
have no obligation to give us access.

3409
03:25:21,276 --> 03:25:26,581
this is one where it made more of a difference and I

3410
03:25:26,581 --> 03:25:31,452
hear you on the other one where the still room to

3411
03:25:31,452 --> 03:25:31,920
negotiate.

3412
03:25:31,920 --> 03:25:35,890
>> and, the people are our constituents the developers

3413
03:25:35,890 --> 03:25:38,920
are not the people are.

3414
03:25:38,920 --> 03:25:42,530
that makes me happy to go through that process of

3415
03:25:42,530 --> 03:25:44,299
getting that grant money.

3416
03:25:44,299 --> 03:25:47,402
>> it sounds like a great opportunity.

3417
03:25:47,402 --> 03:25:50,710
>> they have to do this.

3418
03:25:50,710 --> 03:25:54,909
finally, last parcel which I refer to it often is the

3419
03:25:54,909 --> 03:26:00,248
whole in the dona and it won't take much beyond that is

3420
03:26:00,248 --> 03:26:04,219
the former broadband building more or less across the

3421
03:26:04,219 --> 03:26:04,652
street.

3422
03:26:04,652 --> 03:26:07,322
we don't know what they're doing.

3423
03:26:07,322 --> 03:26:11,759
we never had reached an agreement with them am under

3424
03:26:11,759 --> 03:26:15,730
the current configuration they are built to the rear

3425
03:26:15,730 --> 03:26:19,267
property line and it's like a private terrace.

3426
03:26:19,267 --> 03:26:24,572
it's unclear what they are doing, I hear it is in a

3427
03:26:24,572 --> 03:26:25,907
state of flux.

3428
03:26:25,907 --> 03:26:31,212
they would have to go out into the water which is far

3429
03:26:31,212 --> 03:26:33,882
more complicated and much more expensive.

3430
03:26:33,882 --> 03:26:37,418
we greatly hope this is not the case.

3431
03:26:37,418 --> 03:26:41,856
finally, on the last slide we will skip through the

3432
03:26:41,856 --> 03:26:45,827
other ones but those were slides we already went

3433
03:26:45,827 --> 03:26:48,290
through with the individual properties.

3434
03:26:48,290 --> 03:26:52,467
if you what to go through the individual presentation I

3435
03:26:52,467 --> 03:26:58,206
would be happy to go into detail or not but there is a

3436
03:26:58,206 --> 03:27:03,770
range between abby and her firm who prepared a high and

3437
03:27:03,770 --> 03:27:06,648
low range for each of the different components.

3438
03:27:06,648 --> 03:27:10,618
we have combined together a seawall and island walk,

3439
03:27:10,618 --> 03:27:14,589
the north plaza the under bridge connectors and for

3440
03:27:14,589 --> 03:27:18,126
planning design and permitting purposes and broke it

3441
03:27:18,126 --> 03:27:21,229
out as well in terms of construction.

3442
03:27:21,229 --> 03:27:25,667
the very bottom total cost is for doing the most

3443
03:27:25,667 --> 03:27:30,104
elaborate version of each of these and going back into

3444
03:27:30,104 --> 03:27:34,509
the building where they have a version and the very

3445
03:27:34,509 --> 03:27:39,380
high end of this project is not going to be anywhere

3446
03:27:39,380 --> 03:27:44,686
near this. I wanted to give you all sort of what that

3447
03:27:44,686 --> 03:27:49,123
looked with an overall total. You can see the grant

3448
03:27:49,123 --> 03:27:53,995
that we have for the different things and if we were

3449
03:27:53,995 --> 03:27:59,300
putting in dollars for the things we need to put in for

3450
03:27:59,300 --> 03:28:03,304
which we don't have outside funding investment is not

3451
03:28:03,304 --> 03:28:06,841
that terrible it's about half $1 million overall.

3452
03:28:06,841 --> 03:28:12,146
that is the under bridge and no one gets a dollars for

3453
03:28:12,146 --> 03:28:14,782
that, so on and so forth.

3454
03:28:14,782 --> 03:28:18,786
the vast majority is funded by grants and private

3455
03:28:18,786 --> 03:28:19,654
property owners.

3456
03:28:19,654 --> 03:28:24,525
>> we would be getting some money resume a bully for

3457
03:28:24,525 --> 03:28:26,294
the bridge for example?

3458
03:28:26,294 --> 03:28:27,195
>> correct.

3459
03:28:27,195 --> 03:28:31,165
>> I know that was a lot of information.

3460
03:28:31,165 --> 03:28:35,169
>> essentially what it comes down to is yes.

3461
03:28:35,169 --> 03:28:39,140
the path of least resents fleet resistance of this

3462
03:28:39,140 --> 03:28:43,111
happening and for private investors to build it where

3463
03:28:43,111 --> 03:28:47,982
we can help them through our access to funds we would

3464
03:28:47,982 --> 03:28:51,986
be willing under circumstances to work with the village

3465
03:28:51,986 --> 03:28:54,188
and attempt to do that.

3466
03:28:54,188 --> 03:28:58,192
>> are we also helping private developers by moving

3467
03:28:58,192 --> 03:29:02,163
forward with design and permitting of the template of

3468
03:29:02,163 --> 03:29:03,498
the island walk?

3469
03:29:03,498 --> 03:29:04,832
>> by what?

3470
03:29:04,832 --> 03:29:09,237
>> the template. We have the design criteria and our

3471
03:29:09,237 --> 03:29:09,670
standards?

3472
03:29:09,670 --> 03:29:12,774
>> is reimbursable from rent as well.

3473
03:29:12,774 --> 03:29:16,310
>> of her moving forward with getting the

3474
03:29:16,310 --> 03:29:18,790
conceptpermitted, is that correct?

3475
03:29:18,790 --> 03:29:18,546
>>no.

3476
03:29:18,546 --> 03:29:20,314
they are all different.

3477
03:29:20,314 --> 03:29:24,285
we are not designing the whole thing for everybody

3478
03:29:24,285 --> 03:29:29,157
paired we can work with them in segments but even the

3479
03:29:29,157 --> 03:29:34,280
first several parcels they want to do a design that is

3480
03:29:34,280 --> 03:29:37,565
different than the design criteria that exceeds it.

3481
03:29:37,565 --> 03:29:42,300
if we give them something they're not going to design

3482
03:29:42,300 --> 03:29:45,973
is somehow wasted. Were not putting out something that

3483
03:29:45,973 --> 03:29:48,643
we could actually pull permits for.

3484
03:29:48,643 --> 03:29:52,613
these are individual properties and in many cases this

3485
03:29:52,613 --> 03:29:57,919
is what it is and it's okay, it's fine but in some

3486
03:29:57,919 --> 03:30:00,588
cases there's nothing likely to change.

3487
03:30:00,588 --> 03:30:05,460
the instances where there is a role for us, they are

3488
03:30:05,460 --> 03:30:08,563
fewer then what they were years ago.

3489
03:30:08,563 --> 03:30:11,666
we no longer have to do that.

3490
03:30:11,666 --> 03:30:12,967
thanks to leadership.

3491
03:30:12,967 --> 03:30:17,405
a lot of these projects are moving forward on their

3492
03:30:17,405 --> 03:30:17,839
own.

3493
03:30:17,839 --> 03:30:22,276
we had this conversation last year and was like us

3494
03:30:22,276 --> 03:30:25,379
having to take on this massive project.

3495
03:30:25,379 --> 03:30:30,251
>> there was a point at which things aren't moving in

3496
03:30:30,251 --> 03:30:34,655
the seawall is an issue so we could feasibly through

3497
03:30:34,655 --> 03:30:38,659
great effort go to great lengths convince party by

3498
03:30:38,659 --> 03:30:44,398
party all of them or many of them to get on board to

3499
03:30:44,398 --> 03:30:48,836
allowing us to do something with some sort of future

3500
03:30:48,836 --> 03:30:52,807
concession from them when they rebuild that would have

3501
03:30:52,807 --> 03:30:56,377
made this happen as a complete public project.

3502
03:30:56,377 --> 03:30:58,145
two things have happened.

3503
03:30:58,145 --> 03:30:59,914
I think that dr.

3504
03:30:59,914 --> 03:31:04,318
ralph rosado has it in his presentation but number 1

3505
03:31:04,318 --> 03:31:07,855
that was always going to be logistically complicated

3506
03:31:07,855 --> 03:31:12,293
and number 2, organically, the path, would call it the

3507
03:31:12,293 --> 03:31:17,164
s path at the best path of least resistance has changed

3508
03:31:17,164 --> 03:31:20,701
because of the interest in developing these properties

3509
03:31:20,701 --> 03:31:25,573
which has become very real over the last 12 to 18

3510
03:31:25,573 --> 03:31:26,700
months.

3511
03:31:26,700 --> 03:31:28,242
really the last 12 months.

3512
03:31:28,242 --> 03:31:33,114
>> it was coming before the pandemic more slowly and it

3513
03:31:33,114 --> 03:31:37,985
has been more torrent the last year. The best way to

3514
03:31:37,985 --> 03:31:41,522
do it is to let it happen organically.

3515
03:31:41,522 --> 03:31:44,592
and to help them where we can.

3516
03:31:44,592 --> 03:31:48,162
>> may I add one thing onto that?

3517
03:31:48,162 --> 03:31:53,467
I would say the work that you guys did as the village

3518
03:31:53,467 --> 03:31:57,400
commission looking at those code modifications in order

3519
03:31:57,400 --> 03:32:01,876
to get that seawall into your post to get the island

3520
03:32:01,876 --> 03:32:06,314
walk right here into your code and now requires a

3521
03:32:06,314 --> 03:32:10,718
development to pay for that on their own versus prior

3522
03:32:10,718 --> 03:32:15,590
to that being codified we wouldn't have to do that and

3523
03:32:15,590 --> 03:32:19,560
then you would be back in that initial position.

3524
03:32:19,560 --> 03:32:24,432
really one that you did early last year prior to them

3525
03:32:24,432 --> 03:32:28,869
coming in with all the new development coming in you

3526
03:32:28,869 --> 03:32:33,741
really were ahead of the game and you put yourself in

3527
03:32:33,741 --> 03:32:38,179
that position to really have the developers do the work

3528
03:32:38,179 --> 03:32:42,149
for you instead of you doing the heavy lifting.

3529
03:32:42,149 --> 03:32:47,210
>> I was going to say essentially the same thing. I

3530
03:32:47,210 --> 03:32:51,459
know when we talk about design criteria it's one of

3531
03:32:51,459 --> 03:32:56,330
those things where people say this is so boring but it

3532
03:32:56,330 --> 03:32:58,532
was so important to do.

3533
03:32:58,532 --> 03:33:02,970
we work together to create the easements and site plan

3534
03:33:02,970 --> 03:33:06,507
arrangements for treasure island in harbour island and

3535
03:33:06,507 --> 03:33:10,911
they are all over the place where nothing would match

3536
03:33:10,911 --> 03:33:14,448
up and there was no consistency on anything.

3537
03:33:14,448 --> 03:33:19,787
it wasn't even just one project at the end of the day

3538
03:33:19,787 --> 03:33:23,758
it was a bunch of unrelated things going on.

3539
03:33:23,758 --> 03:33:28,195
having one set of criteria raises standards and we know

3540
03:33:28,195 --> 03:33:29,964
were getting something special.

3541
03:33:29,964 --> 03:33:34,368
that was really important but it seemed wonky but it

3542
03:33:34,368 --> 03:33:36,137
made a huge difference.

3543
03:33:36,137 --> 03:33:41,800
>> the question. I just sat in his chair for the

3544
03:33:41,800 --> 03:33:45,880
boardwalk in the bay walk I'm sitting in this chair for

3545
03:33:45,880 --> 03:33:47,214
the island walk.

3546
03:33:47,214 --> 03:33:52,860
how are you going to convince me that I'm finally gonna

3547
03:33:52,860 --> 03:33:53,421
see some thing?

3548
03:33:53,421 --> 03:33:55,623
this is all a dream.

3549
03:33:55,623 --> 03:34:00,928
>> to that I would say across the street we don't have

3550
03:34:00,928 --> 03:34:04,932
to look too far, this was built last year.

3551
03:34:04,932 --> 03:34:09,804
>> benihana could be here for 50 years and then moved

3552
03:34:09,804 --> 03:34:14,208
next door and then build the boardwalk but what is

3553
03:34:14,208 --> 03:34:17,745
going to build the rest of the boardwalk?

3554
03:34:17,745 --> 03:34:20,414
>> we have two site plans.

3555
03:34:20,414 --> 03:34:24,385
>> we literally developed many of those properties and

3556
03:34:24,385 --> 03:34:28,823
so look, I understand where you're coming from I'm also

3557
03:34:28,823 --> 03:34:35,290
a will see it and I believe it kind of guy but and we

3558
03:34:35,290 --> 03:34:37,665
will see if this pans out.

3559
03:34:37,665 --> 03:34:42,536
>> if we see site plans for anyone he of those

3560
03:34:42,536 --> 03:34:46,540
companies except for channel 7, they been expired some

3561
03:34:46,540 --> 03:34:48,309
two or three times.

3562
03:34:48,309 --> 03:34:54,480
it is not a site plan, let's get a damn shovel in the

3563
03:34:54,480 --> 03:34:55,816
ground and let's go!

3564
03:34:55,816 --> 03:35:00,688
>> commissioner I will say it's a new day north a

3565
03:35:00,688 --> 03:35:01,155
village.

3566
03:35:01,155 --> 03:35:03,357
>> the commission is right.

3567
03:35:03,357 --> 03:35:06,460
he'll believe it when he sees it.

3568
03:35:06,460 --> 03:35:11,332
we've seen a lot of things already in the last three

3569
03:35:11,332 --> 03:35:15,736
years the people say wouldn't happen and so, let's keep

3570
03:35:15,736 --> 03:35:16,637
the faith.

3571
03:35:16,637 --> 03:35:17,505
I will.

3572
03:35:17,505 --> 03:35:18,839
it's not easy.

3573
03:35:18,839 --> 03:35:23,711
there's a lot that goes into the stuff. Each one of

3574
03:35:23,711 --> 03:35:27,248
these guys is investing $100 million or more.

3575
03:35:27,248 --> 03:35:31,685
the proof is in the pudding but people have bought

3576
03:35:31,685 --> 03:35:32,553
these properties.

3577
03:35:32,553 --> 03:35:36,991
dr. Ralph rosado said he's moving with the channel 7

3578
03:35:36,991 --> 03:35:41,428
folks and they spent $100 million to buy properties not

3579
03:35:41,428 --> 03:35:46,734
to sit on them and they are all on board with the

3580
03:35:46,734 --> 03:35:47,601
project walk.

3581
03:35:47,601 --> 03:35:51,605
>> some of these master plans project managers are

3582
03:35:51,605 --> 03:35:56,430
pretty significant. I met with them a couple of times.

3583
03:35:56,430 --> 03:36:01,348
>> I don't think you will see a single segment of the

3584
03:36:01,348 --> 03:36:01,782
building.

3585
03:36:01,782 --> 03:36:02,216
>>.[indiscernable]

3586
03:36:02,216 --> 03:36:03,117
>> okay.

3587
03:36:03,117 --> 03:36:05,753
>>.[indiscernable] I know for a fact,

3588
03:36:05,753 --> 03:36:09,290
that.[indiscernable] I know for a fact that bayview

3589
03:36:09,290 --> 03:36:14,628
their pool is far back and will block the bay walk and

3590
03:36:14,628 --> 03:36:19,934
we have to look at how we will have to look around

3591
03:36:19,934 --> 03:36:20,367
bayview.

3592
03:36:20,367 --> 03:36:24,371
the other buildings won't be built for another three

3593
03:36:24,371 --> 03:36:24,805
years.

3594
03:36:24,805 --> 03:36:28,776
>> it takes a couple years to build things.

3595
03:36:28,776 --> 03:36:32,313
>> I would love to see them started.

3596
03:36:32,313 --> 03:36:34,982
>> okay. Well, we will see.

3597
03:36:34,982 --> 03:36:36,750
next time will tell.

3598
03:36:36,750 --> 03:36:39,420
>> what else do we have?

3599
03:36:39,420 --> 03:36:40,721
>> that's it.

3600
03:36:40,721 --> 03:36:43,824
>> you just wanted to update us?

3601
03:36:43,824 --> 03:36:44,725
>> yes.

3602
03:36:44,725 --> 03:36:49,597
>> folks ask about the project and there's been a lot

3603
03:36:49,597 --> 03:36:54,468
of individual things going on and we have them all in

3604
03:36:54,468 --> 03:36:55,336
one place.

3605
03:36:55,336 --> 03:37:00,641
>> would be a good idea to explain things in a nutshell

3606
03:37:00,641 --> 03:37:05,790
so when people ask they can understand what the vision

3607
03:37:05,790 --> 03:37:05,512
is?

3608
03:37:05,512 --> 03:37:08,616
all right was talk about under grounding.

3609
03:37:08,616 --> 03:37:11,719
give a 10 page presentation for this?

3610
03:37:11,719 --> 03:37:14,388
>> it is only seven slides.

3611
03:37:14,388 --> 03:37:16,156
no, no slide presentation.

3612
03:37:16,156 --> 03:37:21,280
>> I would actually like to save us some time, under

3613
03:37:21,280 --> 03:37:24,565
grounding of utilities for new construction in the

3614
03:37:24,565 --> 03:37:28,535
proposal to require a private property of owners to

3615
03:37:28,535 --> 03:37:32,506
take on this expense is not a small thing.

3616
03:37:32,506 --> 03:37:36,944
I would like to instruct the manager to get some

3617
03:37:36,944 --> 03:37:40,481
feedback from the development community and provide us

3618
03:37:40,481 --> 03:37:44,180
with an eight once they've gotten that feedback.

3619
03:37:44,180 --> 03:37:44,919
>> sure.

3620
03:37:44,919 --> 03:37:48,889
I wanted to update the commissioner because we had

3621
03:37:48,889 --> 03:37:53,327
spoke and there's one person that many of us have

3622
03:37:53,327 --> 03:37:55,996
relied upon for construction cost information.

3623
03:37:55,996 --> 03:38:01,302
I spoke to paul murphy and he said right of the bat

3624
03:38:01,302 --> 03:38:05,272
it's 1.5 percent of construction cost which is helpful.

3625
03:38:05,272 --> 03:38:10,144
he was not against it in any way shape or form.

3626
03:38:10,144 --> 03:38:11,478
>> right. Yes.

3627
03:38:11,478 --> 03:38:16,784
not only that I had reached out to a variety of people

3628
03:38:16,784 --> 03:38:21,221
and several of them are represented by white and sirota

3629
03:38:21,221 --> 03:38:26,527
and this is common of them and I did notice a pattern

3630
03:38:26,527 --> 03:38:29,163
as to what those communities are.

3631
03:38:29,163 --> 03:38:32,733
pinecrest, surfside, coral gables are places that they

3632
03:38:32,733 --> 03:38:36,704
have obligated from the get-go and I have information

3633
03:38:36,704 --> 03:38:40,240
that's been standard for new single-family homes in

3634
03:38:40,240 --> 03:38:44,244
unincorporated areas of the county that are not as

3635
03:38:44,244 --> 03:38:44,678
affluent.

3636
03:38:44,678 --> 03:38:48,215
>> yes, they are requiring sidewalk installations, too.

3637
03:38:48,215 --> 03:38:51,752
okay, given that information I would support this.

3638
03:38:51,752 --> 03:38:56,190
>> the cost for doing this becomes a resilience issue

3639
03:38:56,190 --> 03:38:59,727
as we get stronger storms having underground utilities

3640
03:38:59,727 --> 03:39:05,320
is going to have less of an amenity and more of a

3641
03:39:05,320 --> 03:39:05,466
necessity.

3642
03:39:05,466 --> 03:39:10,337
>> the other thing that is worth pointing out it's much

3643
03:39:10,337 --> 03:39:14,775
cheaper to do this while someone is building a building

3644
03:39:14,775 --> 03:39:18,312
instead of if they are just rectifying it.

3645
03:39:18,312 --> 03:39:21,849
it is optimo they are digging there essentially.

3646
03:39:21,849 --> 03:39:26,720
there are a few other cities that I reach out with

3647
03:39:26,720 --> 03:39:30,257
arsenal information and would love to put something

3648
03:39:30,257 --> 03:39:34,695
else or more comprehensive if there is an interest we

3649
03:39:34,695 --> 03:39:40,000
can bring it back to you all for discussion or we can

3650
03:39:40,000 --> 03:39:43,971
send it to planning and zoning for the recommendation.

3651
03:39:43,971 --> 03:39:48,409
>> were basically not removing the post is just the

3652
03:39:48,409 --> 03:39:52,846
electric connection from the post to the house will be

3653
03:39:52,846 --> 03:39:53,280
underground?

3654
03:39:53,280 --> 03:39:57,718
still going to have the post in the overhang wires

3655
03:39:57,718 --> 03:40:00,354
which are in existence right now?

3656
03:40:00,354 --> 03:40:05,225
>> there is an obligation on the private side of the

3657
03:40:05,225 --> 03:40:05,659
equation.

3658
03:40:05,659 --> 03:40:09,663
>> are you thinking of single-family homes which is

3659
03:40:09,663 --> 03:40:13,634
fair enoughbut also in the case of the multifamily

3660
03:40:13,634 --> 03:40:18,720
homes becomes a bigger deal on harbour island when you

3661
03:40:18,720 --> 03:40:22,509
are underground and you are getting the post and lines

3662
03:40:22,509 --> 03:40:26,480
off the street in those areas of the city.

3663
03:40:26,480 --> 03:40:30,170
>> we are definitely looking at the lines.

3664
03:40:30,170 --> 03:40:31,785
>> I don't know.

3665
03:40:31,785 --> 03:40:35,789
if you're talking about the underground lines in the

3666
03:40:35,789 --> 03:40:40,194
building it's no big deal but for talking about the

3667
03:40:40,194 --> 03:40:44,198
electrical lines in front of the building of the

3668
03:40:44,198 --> 03:40:44,631
street?

3669
03:40:44,631 --> 03:40:46,400
I think we are.

3670
03:40:46,400 --> 03:40:46,834
>>.[indiscernable]

3671
03:40:46,834 --> 03:40:52,139
>> note now you are talking about I don't know I don't

3672
03:40:52,139 --> 03:40:53,907
know how this goes.

3673
03:40:53,907 --> 03:40:57,478
>> I remember the conversation we hadat pml.

3674
03:40:57,478 --> 03:40:59,246
especially in northbay island.

3675
03:40:59,246 --> 03:41:02,783
>> is different family home from the multifamily.

3676
03:41:02,783 --> 03:41:07,654
>> but still, if you have one person request to have

3677
03:41:07,654 --> 03:41:12,590
the overhang along the path you have to have it.

3678
03:41:12,590 --> 03:41:14,294
>> can you verify that.

3679
03:41:14,294 --> 03:41:17,831
what are we actually talking about doing here?

3680
03:41:17,831 --> 03:41:21,802
>> okay. We will do the research on that.

3681
03:41:21,802 --> 03:41:27,107
>> not one person in the building but one person on the

3682
03:41:27,107 --> 03:41:31,545
line that's requested and wants over hang then you are

3683
03:41:31,545 --> 03:41:31,979
stuck.

3684
03:41:31,979 --> 03:41:37,284
>>,I have not heard that before but we will confirm if

3685
03:41:37,284 --> 03:41:39,860
that is the policy.

3686
03:41:39,860 --> 03:41:39,520
okay.

3687
03:41:39,520 --> 03:41:41,722
>> we need more information.

3688
03:41:41,722 --> 03:41:46,160
>> will bring you back in january with more information

3689
03:41:46,160 --> 03:41:50,564
and we could potentially vote if you all had planning

3690
03:41:50,564 --> 03:41:52,366
and zoning in february.

3691
03:41:52,366 --> 03:41:57,204
>> my question is what does this look like from a

3692
03:41:57,204 --> 03:41:59,600
mutual point of view?

3693
03:41:59,600 --> 03:42:01,642
in the single-family neighborhoods and multifamily

3694
03:42:01,642 --> 03:42:05,646
neighborhoods what does this mean exactly in terms of

3695
03:42:05,646 --> 03:42:07,414
what this looks like?

3696
03:42:07,414 --> 03:42:11,819
under grounding lines just the main power line into the

3697
03:42:11,819 --> 03:42:14,922
multifamily building can't cost 1.5 percent of

3698
03:42:14,922 --> 03:42:18,250
construction costs. They can'tbe what were talking

3699
03:42:18,250 --> 03:42:22,896
about peer 1.5 percent could be of your project in just

3700
03:42:22,896 --> 03:42:25,980
under grounding one mainline, right?

3701
03:42:25,980 --> 03:42:27,768
were talking about more than that.

3702
03:42:27,768 --> 03:42:32,172
>> we will reach out to some of the communities.

3703
03:42:32,172 --> 03:42:34,841
>> does motor have theirs undergroundyuma.

3704
03:42:34,841 --> 03:42:36,610
>> I'm not sure.

3705
03:42:36,610 --> 03:42:38,812
I want to say yes.

3706
03:42:38,812 --> 03:42:39,279
>>.[indiscernable]

3707
03:42:39,279 --> 03:42:44,151
>> what sort of prompted this is obviously we know we

3708
03:42:44,151 --> 03:42:48,121
can't use fema grant for the seawall construction like

3709
03:42:48,121 --> 03:42:52,993
we had hoped but we still have the funding and an

3710
03:42:52,993 --> 03:42:58,298
agenda item on how do we move forward with that if at

3711
03:42:58,298 --> 03:43:01,835
all and there's a few different arrangements with

3712
03:43:01,835 --> 03:43:05,839
recommendations if we move forward where do we move

3713
03:43:05,839 --> 03:43:09,810
forward known that we don't have all the funding.

3714
03:43:09,810 --> 03:43:14,681
in the other thing is that all the vacant parcels on

3715
03:43:14,681 --> 03:43:19,119
harbour island have been bought up as well. In many

3716
03:43:19,119 --> 03:43:23,523
cases they are luxury projects where it might not hurt

3717
03:43:23,523 --> 03:43:26,193
financially as much to do this.

3718
03:43:26,193 --> 03:43:31,932
if this is a policy in place by then by the time they

3719
03:43:31,932 --> 03:43:35,936
come in with their side plan then is actually

3720
03:43:35,936 --> 03:43:36,370
triggered.

3721
03:43:36,370 --> 03:43:41,241
once they are in the pipeline we can't change the rules

3722
03:43:41,241 --> 03:43:42,109
on them.

3723
03:43:42,109 --> 03:43:47,447
if it's something that we wanted to do there is a time

3724
03:43:47,447 --> 03:43:51,418
sensitive condition. We will come back on that again

3725
03:43:51,418 --> 03:43:53,620
in january. I hear you.

3726
03:43:53,620 --> 03:43:54,521
that's it.

3727
03:43:54,521 --> 03:43:55,856
>>14 b 4.

3728
03:43:55,856 --> 03:43:58,492
>> good evening mayor and commissioners.

3729
03:43:58,492 --> 03:44:03,797
I will be presenting this item and I do want to stress

3730
03:44:03,797 --> 03:44:08,669
first and foremost is village staff I speak for all of

3731
03:44:08,669 --> 03:44:13,106
us who work on events. I'm incredibly proud to provide

3732
03:44:13,106 --> 03:44:17,978
services in the community for even part of what I love

3733
03:44:17,978 --> 03:44:19,746
most about my job.

3734
03:44:19,746 --> 03:44:23,283
the community engagement and outreach aspect it's great

3735
03:44:23,283 --> 03:44:27,287
to see the community come together and providing an

3736
03:44:27,287 --> 03:44:29,489
opportunity for the community together.

3737
03:44:29,489 --> 03:44:33,927
that being said the concept of this item is to

3738
03:44:33,927 --> 03:44:37,898
establish a policy primitively to ensure that we are

3739
03:44:37,898 --> 03:44:41,100
creating quality programming for the community taking

3740
03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:43,637
into account our staff and bandwidth.

3741
03:44:43,637 --> 03:44:48,750
in the budget process and before the fiscal year began

3742
03:44:48,750 --> 03:44:53,847
reached out to all of you to request a list of all the

3743
03:44:53,847 --> 03:44:57,384
sites you are interested in producing the upcoming

3744
03:44:57,384 --> 03:44:57,818
year.

3745
03:44:57,818 --> 03:45:02,689
we taken those into account is not directed at any of

3746
03:45:02,689 --> 03:45:07,127
you it's just a matter of process, not having a

3747
03:45:07,127 --> 03:45:07,561
process.

3748
03:45:07,561 --> 03:45:11,980
during the year when I'm presenting tonight is

3749
03:45:11,980 --> 03:45:14,634
establishing a process during the year where more

3750
03:45:14,634 --> 03:45:15,969
events were acquired.

3751
03:45:15,969 --> 03:45:19,940
looking at what that process looks like. Internally we

3752
03:45:19,940 --> 03:45:23,944
discussed and recommend for you all to establish and

3753
03:45:23,944 --> 03:45:27,481
approve any events sponsored by the commission paired

3754
03:45:27,481 --> 03:45:31,451
we recommended at least three months in advance that

3755
03:45:31,451 --> 03:45:32,786
would be nice.

3756
03:45:32,786 --> 03:45:37,224
we know that things come up but ultimately we would

3757
03:45:37,224 --> 03:45:42,529
like it to come to commission not just a week or two

3758
03:45:42,529 --> 03:45:44,297
weeks before and events.

3759
03:45:44,297 --> 03:45:47,834
not singling anyone out not saying this is

3760
03:45:47,834 --> 03:45:49,603
happening.[laughter] I'm just saying!

3761
03:45:49,603 --> 03:45:53,573
[laughter] we talk about your event so don't worry.

3762
03:45:53,573 --> 03:45:57,144
[laughter] anyway, just establishing a process we do

3763
03:45:57,144 --> 03:46:01,548
have a recommendation for any new events that come back

3764
03:46:01,548 --> 03:46:06,853
to the commission for approval and it is up to you guys

3765
03:46:06,853 --> 03:46:10,857
to talk about that but that is our recommendation.

3766
03:46:10,857 --> 03:46:14,394
in addition something that's not usually thought about

3767
03:46:14,394 --> 03:46:18,365
with events is the additional overtime that is caused

3768
03:46:18,365 --> 03:46:19,699
by these events.

3769
03:46:19,699 --> 03:46:23,703
we are also recommending that the overtime for events

3770
03:46:23,703 --> 03:46:27,674
would require a budget event from the commissioner with

3771
03:46:27,674 --> 03:46:29,443
a budgeted line item.

3772
03:46:29,443 --> 03:46:32,979
thank you, that is the item for consideration.

3773
03:46:32,979 --> 03:46:38,285
>> for example it makes sense to say we need to budget

3774
03:46:38,285 --> 03:46:43,590
staff time in a way that is manageable so we can manage

3775
03:46:43,590 --> 03:46:46,259
expectations of what we are delivering.

3776
03:46:46,259 --> 03:46:51,131
at the same time the first thing is I'm hesitant to

3777
03:46:51,131 --> 03:46:54,668
create policies like this because we have an

3778
03:46:54,668 --> 03:46:58,672
unfortunate tendency to then point at the policy and

3779
03:46:58,672 --> 03:47:03,760
the not do things that make sense because of the

3780
03:47:03,760 --> 03:47:03,510
policy.

3781
03:47:03,510 --> 03:47:08,381
three months lead time plus the amount of time it takes

3782
03:47:08,381 --> 03:47:13,253
to get something on the agenda and then time it takes

3783
03:47:13,253 --> 03:47:17,257
for someone to come around is really four months.

3784
03:47:17,257 --> 03:47:20,794
and I can pursue circumstances where something might

3785
03:47:20,794 --> 03:47:25,198
come up where a commission member might have the funds

3786
03:47:25,198 --> 03:47:29,636
and willingness to do the event and it's not four-month

3787
03:47:29,636 --> 03:47:34,740
ahead of time. For example, I will use the bangladesh

3788
03:47:34,740 --> 03:47:38,945
event that I'm doing how much time have you spent on

3789
03:47:38,945 --> 03:47:39,379
that?

3790
03:47:39,379 --> 03:47:44,251
>> well, it's not that much time because they are doing

3791
03:47:44,251 --> 03:47:45,118
the event.

3792
03:47:45,118 --> 03:47:46,190
>> right.

3793
03:47:46,190 --> 03:47:50,457
there's cases and ways to do things that don't require

3794
03:47:50,457 --> 03:47:54,861
staff time. There are some things that I agree with,

3795
03:47:54,861 --> 03:47:55,328
seriously.

3796
03:47:55,328 --> 03:47:59,299
>> there are financial costs associated with them as

3797
03:47:59,299 --> 03:47:59,733
well.

3798
03:47:59,733 --> 03:48:04,170
>> and we have the budget to pay for that.

3799
03:48:04,170 --> 03:48:09,420
madeleine came to me and said you're going to cover the

3800
03:48:09,420 --> 03:48:13,130
cost for police and overtime and I said yes.

3801
03:48:13,130 --> 03:48:17,884
I'm sponsoring the event and I will cover it from my

3802
03:48:17,884 --> 03:48:18,318
fund.

3803
03:48:18,318 --> 03:48:23,657
I think I am chipping in a few hundred dollars for food

3804
03:48:23,657 --> 03:48:27,627
and drinks but madeleine has helped with the liaison

3805
03:48:27,627 --> 03:48:30,730
work is certainly not a heavy lift.

3806
03:48:30,730 --> 03:48:32,650
and that's it.

3807
03:48:32,650 --> 03:48:36,937
I think there are ways to do events that are courteous

3808
03:48:36,937 --> 03:48:41,341
and take into account staff time and I would be

3809
03:48:41,341 --> 03:48:45,779
hesitant to eliminate the potential to do that kind of

3810
03:48:45,779 --> 03:48:49,749
thing without four-month notice and I think what you

3811
03:48:49,749 --> 03:48:54,187
are asking for is courtesy from the commission in terms

3812
03:48:54,187 --> 03:48:55,956
of recognizing staff time.

3813
03:48:55,956 --> 03:48:59,926
I think we should all do that without bureaucratic

3814
03:48:59,926 --> 03:49:04,364
ourselves to death with a three-page policy on how it's

3815
03:49:04,364 --> 03:49:05,699
going to work.

3816
03:49:05,699 --> 03:49:07,330
that's my opinion.

3817
03:49:07,330 --> 03:49:11,400
>> we definitely respect helen's time and staff time

3818
03:49:11,400 --> 03:49:14,975
and we definitely need a certain amount of time.

3819
03:49:14,975 --> 03:49:19,846
maybe to get something on the agenda maybe it's not the

3820
03:49:19,846 --> 03:49:22,820
four months it's three months.

3821
03:49:22,820 --> 03:49:27,387
we also run the risk of putting on subpar events and we

3822
03:49:27,387 --> 03:49:31,825
don't want to be in the position to do that.

3823
03:49:31,825 --> 03:49:37,130
also if we have events that take place one or two weeks

3824
03:49:37,130 --> 03:49:42,200
between each other and then it doesn't come out way we

3825
03:49:42,200 --> 03:49:46,406
want and we have criticism because we didn't have the

3826
03:49:46,406 --> 03:49:48,174
bandwidth to do it.

3827
03:49:48,174 --> 03:49:53,947
>> I think what could be helpful is a lot of times we

3828
03:49:53,947 --> 03:49:58,818
don't know the full amount of steps that go into making

3829
03:49:58,818 --> 03:50:03,223
something happen and also if we knew those ahead of

3830
03:50:03,223 --> 03:50:07,227
time for example the stroller derby there are groups

3831
03:50:07,227 --> 03:50:11,631
that have done similar types of event that we could

3832
03:50:11,631 --> 03:50:16,690
call on and draw upon. These events will require you

3833
03:50:16,690 --> 03:50:20,940
and others to put their hands on it and it doesn't

3834
03:50:20,940 --> 03:50:24,911
matter who is helping because we have a certain

3835
03:50:24,911 --> 03:50:29,349
standard and level of event that we want to have.

3836
03:50:29,349 --> 03:50:34,220
however if we had that figured out the budget we could

3837
03:50:34,220 --> 03:50:38,658
notify vendors, whatever it takes to make one of these

3838
03:50:38,658 --> 03:50:43,530
things happen happen. It will be helpful to know as we

3839
03:50:43,530 --> 03:50:47,934
think about this is one of the events that will

3840
03:50:47,934 --> 03:50:51,938
probably need more than a four-month leadtime and I

3841
03:50:51,938 --> 03:50:57,243
have none of the boxes checked this is an event or have

3842
03:50:57,243 --> 03:51:02,549
eight of the 10 boxes checked and I need to figure out

3843
03:51:02,549 --> 03:51:06,860
a date and tell people when to call.

3844
03:51:06,860 --> 03:51:10,523
so maybe the first thing is identifying what it takes

3845
03:51:10,523 --> 03:51:14,494
to put one of these events together and working

3846
03:51:14,494 --> 03:51:14,928
backwards.

3847
03:51:14,928 --> 03:51:21,134
>> I do want to bring up I think the mayor and the vice

3848
03:51:21,134 --> 03:51:23,369
mayor bring up good points.

3849
03:51:23,369 --> 03:51:27,774
no event is the same and they require different things

3850
03:51:27,774 --> 03:51:29,542
going into each event.

3851
03:51:29,542 --> 03:51:33,980
hope puts us in an uncomfortable position is a never

3852
03:51:33,980 --> 03:51:38,418
want to be in a position where I chose one

3853
03:51:38,418 --> 03:51:41,540
commissioners event over another commissioners event.

3854
03:51:41,540 --> 03:51:45,925
so having a process would be helpful to ensure that no

3855
03:51:45,925 --> 03:51:48,128
one is above anyone else.

3856
03:51:48,128 --> 03:51:52,132
that is my concern, personally, in addition to being

3857
03:51:52,132 --> 03:51:52,565
courteous.

3858
03:51:52,565 --> 03:51:57,437
>> personally I try to make an effort when I encourage

3859
03:51:57,437 --> 03:51:59,639
staff to do a minimum.

3860
03:51:59,639 --> 03:52:04,511
to the extent of this I would say to staff's credit

3861
03:52:04,511 --> 03:52:08,948
many time the staff gets involved more than they need

3862
03:52:08,948 --> 03:52:14,254
to be because you want things to be good and you go

3863
03:52:14,254 --> 03:52:16,923
above and beyond and that's fine.

3864
03:52:16,923 --> 03:52:21,327
it shouldn't come at the expense of not doing things

3865
03:52:21,327 --> 03:52:26,199
that the commissioners want to do if we say to you

3866
03:52:26,199 --> 03:52:30,203
look, again, this thing with the saturday soccer and

3867
03:52:30,203 --> 03:52:35,508
said to you guys I don't need you guys at those things.

3868
03:52:35,508 --> 03:52:39,913
it's not necessary I don't need staff at that stuff.

3869
03:52:39,913 --> 03:52:41,247
is not necessary.

3870
03:52:41,247 --> 03:52:46,119
I don't want you to work while you're on vacation like

3871
03:52:46,119 --> 03:52:51,424
I don't need you to work during holidays if I need you

3872
03:52:51,424 --> 03:52:57,197
I will ask but I don't want you to give up the ability

3873
03:52:57,197 --> 03:53:01,634
to do things because staff needs to be there even

3874
03:53:01,634 --> 03:53:04,704
though you don't need to do it.

3875
03:53:04,704 --> 03:53:05,605
you know?

3876
03:53:05,605 --> 03:53:08,274
>> their concern is around accountability?

3877
03:53:08,274 --> 03:53:13,580
even if I was having an event and again I'm going to

3878
03:53:13,580 --> 03:53:17,550
keep calling on this because you've called me out

3879
03:53:17,550 --> 03:53:21,521
tonight and going to address it and be defensive,

3880
03:53:21,521 --> 03:53:22,422
totally kidding.

3881
03:53:22,422 --> 03:53:24,624
for example the stroller derby.

3882
03:53:24,624 --> 03:53:28,161
not only from accountability perspective but I think

3883
03:53:28,161 --> 03:53:32,599
the chair of our events, helen, you have a certain

3884
03:53:32,599 --> 03:53:37,360
standard that you want to see that we are all

3885
03:53:37,360 --> 03:53:38,805
accustomed to, quite frankly.

3886
03:53:38,805 --> 03:53:42,342
it's different to tell someone who's accountable for

3887
03:53:42,342 --> 03:53:46,312
something that they don't have control of what's going

3888
03:53:46,312 --> 03:53:49,883
on because everyone will be held accountable for

3889
03:53:49,883 --> 03:53:53,853
something that happens if it goes sideways I'm not

3890
03:53:53,853 --> 03:53:58,725
going to call the vendor going to call someone at the

3891
03:53:58,725 --> 03:53:59,158
city.

3892
03:53:59,158 --> 03:54:03,596
>> vice mayor appreciate your sentiment I want you to

3893
03:54:03,596 --> 03:54:08,100
know I will be accountable for your stroller derby and

3894
03:54:08,100 --> 03:54:09,769
have to accept that.

3895
03:54:09,769 --> 03:54:15,108
we have to let each other live and do our thing as

3896
03:54:15,108 --> 03:54:17,744
well. It's also part of it.

3897
03:54:17,744 --> 03:54:21,748
were saying ambiguity and imperfection to all of this.

3898
03:54:21,748 --> 03:54:23,950
>> I have a question.

3899
03:54:23,950 --> 03:54:29,255
>> I'm sure the stroller event is to be great I'm not

3900
03:54:29,255 --> 03:54:30,156
knocking it.

3901
03:54:30,156 --> 03:54:34,127
>> can I be the baby in the stroller?

3902
03:54:34,127 --> 03:54:38,998
[laughter] ask my kids way 100 pounds each so I might

3903
03:54:38,998 --> 03:54:41,200
as well push you around.

3904
03:54:41,200 --> 03:54:42,969
>> the hanukkah events.

3905
03:54:42,969 --> 03:54:47,407
when I got there I encountered a small problem that

3906
03:54:47,407 --> 03:54:48,741
required public works.

3907
03:54:48,741 --> 03:54:53,179
and when I spoke with carla about public works, public

3908
03:54:53,179 --> 03:54:58,170
works was not around, they were not there and it would

3909
03:54:58,170 --> 03:55:00,687
be a four hour call back.

3910
03:55:00,687 --> 03:55:05,558
I've no idea who paid for the police budget for that

3911
03:55:05,558 --> 03:55:05,992
event.

3912
03:55:05,992 --> 03:55:09,996
nobody asked me to cooperate and I think that

3913
03:55:09,996 --> 03:55:13,660
commissioner rachel streitfeld was a commissioner who

3914
03:55:13,660 --> 03:55:18,404
footed the bill for that one but I'm no idea who put

3915
03:55:18,404 --> 03:55:22,809
event together in the village and the police were there

3916
03:55:22,809 --> 03:55:24,577
and they got paid.

3917
03:55:24,577 --> 03:55:29,449
>> that was not a commission sponsored even in I don't

3918
03:55:29,449 --> 03:55:30,783
know the answer.

3919
03:55:30,783 --> 03:55:32,552
>> who was it?

3920
03:55:32,552 --> 03:55:35,221
>> it was the rabbis event.

3921
03:55:35,221 --> 03:55:38,758
>> did the rabbi pay for the police?

3922
03:55:38,758 --> 03:55:39,625
>> number.

3923
03:55:39,625 --> 03:55:43,196
>> did the rabbi pay for the menorah?

3924
03:55:43,196 --> 03:55:47,166
did he pay to put up the candles met.

3925
03:55:47,166 --> 03:55:48,340
>> number.

3926
03:55:48,340 --> 03:55:52,380
>> think god someone was there to change it.

3927
03:55:52,380 --> 03:55:56,909
these are the things that come in question with who is

3928
03:55:56,909 --> 03:56:00,880
responsible for the payments like we said are we

3929
03:56:00,880 --> 03:56:04,884
responsible for the payment end of course. If we

3930
03:56:04,884 --> 03:56:06,185
propose an event.

3931
03:56:06,185 --> 03:56:10,189
we are responsible for the payment of our event.

3932
03:56:10,189 --> 03:56:14,594
but, if something just happens to take place and we

3933
03:56:14,594 --> 03:56:17,697
need the people and are not there.

3934
03:56:17,697 --> 03:56:22,568
>> I think a checklist would be helpful to the folks

3935
03:56:22,568 --> 03:56:28,341
know what it would take to put on an event and then we

3936
03:56:28,341 --> 03:56:33,212
talk about want to do something next week you can say

3937
03:56:33,212 --> 03:56:38,518
well, here are the lists of the things that you need to

3938
03:56:38,518 --> 03:56:42,922
do to make that happen next week and we can't

3939
03:56:42,922 --> 03:56:47,360
physically make that happen or, it looks like all the

3940
03:56:47,360 --> 03:56:52,231
things are checked we just need to figure out a time

3941
03:56:52,231 --> 03:56:53,566
and publicize it.

3942
03:56:53,566 --> 03:56:56,669
>> I think that is good thinking.

3943
03:56:56,669 --> 03:56:58,400
that makes sense.

3944
03:56:58,400 --> 03:57:02,408
you can come up with a checklist that includes all

3945
03:57:02,408 --> 03:57:06,412
these things and essentially the burden is on the

3946
03:57:06,412 --> 03:57:10,817
commission to provide those things or we can't do the

3947
03:57:10,817 --> 03:57:11,250
event.

3948
03:57:11,250 --> 03:57:13,920
>> that sounds good to me.

3949
03:57:13,920 --> 03:57:16,122
>> awesome. Thank you guys.

3950
03:57:16,122 --> 03:57:18,791
>> starting after the stroller derby!

3951
03:57:18,791 --> 03:57:19,225
[laughter]

3952
03:57:19,225 --> 03:57:21,461
>> that was accounted for!

3953
03:57:21,461 --> 03:57:26,766
>> those going to say the off duty for the menorah it

3954
03:57:26,766 --> 03:57:31,170
was all on duty there was no off-duty police officers

3955
03:57:31,170 --> 03:57:31,637
involved.

3956
03:57:31,637 --> 03:57:36,943
>> if there would have been a call would be the officer

3957
03:57:36,943 --> 03:57:38,277
at the event?

3958
03:57:38,277 --> 03:57:40,480
>> we were well staffed.

3959
03:57:40,480 --> 03:57:41,814
with seven officers.

3960
03:57:41,814 --> 03:57:44,917
>> talking about that for next year.

3961
03:57:44,917 --> 03:57:48,454
>> we are a very low crime city.

3962
03:57:48,454 --> 03:57:52,859
>> if it happened elsewhere or by been a different

3963
03:57:52,859 --> 03:57:53,326
scenario.

3964
03:57:53,326 --> 03:57:58,197
>> let's go that route, let's try that will come back.

3965
03:57:58,197 --> 03:57:59,966
>> him on board.

3966
03:57:59,966 --> 03:58:03,503
>> the mayor didn't do what he said.

3967
03:58:03,503 --> 03:58:08,374
>> and, if it were any event it's the mayors fault!

3968
03:58:08,374 --> 03:58:11,477
>> I am willing to shoulder that.

3969
03:58:11,477 --> 03:58:15,140
I get a credit for these things, too.

3970
03:58:15,140 --> 03:58:15,882
all right.

3971
03:58:15,882 --> 03:58:17,650
>> two more items.

3972
03:58:17,650 --> 03:58:23,422
>> they are both mine and we will do them we have to

3973
03:58:23,422 --> 03:58:24,757
work through these.

3974
03:58:24,757 --> 03:58:28,728
14 b6 the short-term rental update and code provision

3975
03:58:28,728 --> 03:58:34,330
13.9 b. I have three items that I would like if I

3976
03:58:34,330 --> 03:58:37,570
during this discussion. One is specifically the code

3977
03:58:37,570 --> 03:58:42,800
provision13 9b, the concept of a legal memo and clarity

3978
03:58:42,800 --> 03:58:46,879
on what is being done and I want to clarify that

3979
03:58:46,879 --> 03:58:47,313
clearly.

3980
03:58:47,313 --> 03:58:51,751
then, the third is going to be our attempt to

3981
03:58:51,751 --> 03:58:56,622
communicate our code and effort on s tbr and in an

3982
03:58:56,622 --> 03:58:57,490
accessible fashion.

3983
03:58:57,490 --> 03:59:01,928
let's start with code provision 13.9 b. I have provided

3984
03:59:01,928 --> 03:59:06,365
a series of emails from residents regarding this for.

3985
03:59:06,365 --> 03:59:11,671
background there was a I guess it was a call, it's hard

3986
03:59:11,671 --> 03:59:16,542
to describe it as a call to police, sometime in early

3987
03:59:16,542 --> 03:59:16,976
november.

3988
03:59:16,976 --> 03:59:20,947
this was about a sports car driving erratically through

3989
03:59:20,947 --> 03:59:23,616
the streets of north bay village.

3990
03:59:23,616 --> 03:59:28,487
I guess they went out of north bay island in the

3991
03:59:28,487 --> 03:59:32,458
evening and then back into north bay island the

3992
03:59:32,458 --> 03:59:36,462
following morning around 7 am at excessive rates of

3993
03:59:36,462 --> 03:59:36,896
speed.

3994
03:59:36,896 --> 03:59:41,334
the sports car along with others, or another or others

3995
03:59:41,334 --> 03:59:45,738
was delivered to a vacation home. That caused a series

3996
03:59:45,738 --> 03:59:50,176
of emails to me and other staff members, dr. Ralph

3997
03:59:50,176 --> 03:59:53,279
rosado, chief noriega, the deputy chief, code

3998
03:59:53,279 --> 03:59:56,382
enforcement supervisor orlando and others lodging a

3999
03:59:56,382 --> 03:59:59,485
complaint about the speeding vehicle which was

4000
03:59:59,485 --> 04:00:04,323
responded to I will ask the chief what the response was

4001
04:00:04,323 --> 04:00:08,327
in the response was strong and presumably adequate. We

4002
04:00:08,327 --> 04:00:13,633
were asked what was the response but I want to get to

4003
04:00:13,633 --> 04:00:18,504
the point of this particular part of this item which is

4004
04:00:18,504 --> 04:00:22,942
that the response though it did include many steps it

4005
04:00:22,942 --> 04:00:27,346
did not include an immediate call and insistence on the

4006
04:00:27,346 --> 04:00:31,350
part of our police that the representative of the

4007
04:00:31,350 --> 04:00:35,321
short-term rental come to the site within 60 minutes.

4008
04:00:35,321 --> 04:00:40,626
the code which orlando has and can read to us and this

4009
04:00:40,626 --> 04:00:46,399
is where we get to the thing that I want to discuss the

4010
04:00:46,399 --> 04:00:50,803
code is relatively and I know everyone doesn't say this

4011
04:00:50,803 --> 04:00:54,807
but it's corrected is relatively ambiguous as it does

4012
04:00:54,807 --> 04:00:58,778
not a specific course of action for our police.

4013
04:00:58,778 --> 04:01:00,112
it is vague.

4014
04:01:00,112 --> 04:01:04,984
we will read it and then we'll talk about what policy

4015
04:01:04,984 --> 04:01:09,422
is and what some residents have said they think the

4016
04:01:09,422 --> 04:01:14,260
policy or they think what they would like the policy to

4017
04:01:14,260 --> 04:01:19,131
be and then we will go through the discussion of the

4018
04:01:19,131 --> 04:01:23,135
back-and-forth which was lengthy and then we will try

4019
04:01:23,135 --> 04:01:28,700
to come to an agreement with this art of the code.

4020
04:01:28,700 --> 04:01:31,977
orlando, two things. Can you describe to us what

4021
04:01:31,977 --> 04:01:36,415
response was to this incident and then describe to us

4022
04:01:36,415 --> 04:01:41,287
that part of the code in the policy that is being

4023
04:01:41,287 --> 04:01:45,691
followed at this time and then I will describe what

4024
04:01:45,691 --> 04:01:47,927
residents would like to see.

4025
04:01:47,927 --> 04:01:51,464
>> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners

4026
04:01:51,464 --> 04:01:55,000
will let chief noriega respond to the response.

4027
04:01:55,000 --> 04:01:59,872
>> good evening, I don't have the specifics on the call

4028
04:01:59,872 --> 04:02:04,276
but I do have a recollection on what happened around

4029
04:02:04,276 --> 04:02:09,615
11:30 that evening there was a call of a car racing out

4030
04:02:09,615 --> 04:02:14,487
of north bay island onto the causeway and into the city

4031
04:02:14,487 --> 04:02:18,891
of miami. We responded and there wassomewhat of an s

4032
04:02:18,891 --> 04:02:19,792
tbr 7700.

4033
04:02:19,792 --> 04:02:24,663
our units responded there was no car to be found when

4034
04:02:24,663 --> 04:02:29,969
they arrived so they kept an eye on the house most of

4035
04:02:29,969 --> 04:02:30,836
the night.

4036
04:02:30,836 --> 04:02:35,708
that was a midnight shift and they work until 7 am.

4037
04:02:35,708 --> 04:02:40,146
round 7:30 a.m. The same car returned and the sergeant

4038
04:02:40,146 --> 04:02:45,451
who work that evening was on his way out, he heard the

4039
04:02:45,451 --> 04:02:47,686
car go out and return.

4040
04:02:47,686 --> 04:02:51,223
in the meantime was responding to emails around

4041
04:02:51,223 --> 04:02:55,194
midnight to the complainant who lives on miami view

4042
04:02:55,194 --> 04:02:55,628
drive.

4043
04:02:55,628 --> 04:02:59,632
I was also in communications with the sergeant who

4044
04:02:59,632 --> 04:03:04,360
responded who advised that the car in question was gone

4045
04:03:04,360 --> 04:03:04,937
on arrival.

4046
04:03:04,937 --> 04:03:08,474
around 7:30 email started again in the sergeant

4047
04:03:08,474 --> 04:03:12,445
responded to turn back around and responded that the

4048
04:03:12,445 --> 04:03:16,882
car was at the house and immediately made contact to

4049
04:03:16,882 --> 04:03:19,552
people who were occupying the house.

4050
04:03:19,552 --> 04:03:23,522
turned out that the people occupying the house and

4051
04:03:23,522 --> 04:03:28,394
orlando can correct me if I am mistaken on this were

4052
04:03:28,394 --> 04:03:30,162
friends of the owner.

4053
04:03:30,162 --> 04:03:32,832
they were in town from france.

4054
04:03:32,832 --> 04:03:37,236
the sergeant basically told him why he was there, what

4055
04:03:37,236 --> 04:03:41,674
the complaint was and if they were caught behind the

4056
04:03:41,674 --> 04:03:46,112
wheel what they were exactly accused of doing that they

4057
04:03:46,112 --> 04:03:50,820
would be cited and or arrested for reckless driving.

4058
04:03:50,820 --> 04:03:54,520
while this was going on I contacted orlando who is

4059
04:03:54,520 --> 04:03:59,825
trying to get a hold of the property owner and I asked

4060
04:03:59,825 --> 04:04:03,796
orlando to give me that number so I could.

4061
04:04:03,796 --> 04:04:05,131
>> commissioner: them.

4062
04:04:05,131 --> 04:04:10,903
within an hour I was on the phone with them and I told

4063
04:04:10,903 --> 04:04:14,874
them what was happening needed to stop immediately and

4064
04:04:14,874 --> 04:04:19,745
if we were to catch those folks at that house driving

4065
04:04:19,745 --> 04:04:22,381
like that in a reckless manner.

4066
04:04:22,381 --> 04:04:27,253
from that point on there were no other incidents at the

4067
04:04:27,253 --> 04:04:31,257
house. The manager said he would contact the tenants

4068
04:04:31,257 --> 04:04:35,661
or the friends and would address the problem and make

4069
04:04:35,661 --> 04:04:38,330
sure it did not happen again.

4070
04:04:38,330 --> 04:04:41,433
that problem was handled appropriately in another

4071
04:04:41,433 --> 04:04:45,404
challenge we had was the complainant wanted the driver

4072
04:04:45,404 --> 04:04:48,941
cited unless we catchy behind the wheel committing

4073
04:04:48,941 --> 04:04:52,440
those illegal acts we cannot cite you.

4074
04:04:52,440 --> 04:04:55,147
that was handled immediately by on-duty personnel

4075
04:04:55,147 --> 04:04:59,151
making contact with the tenants, us making contact with

4076
04:04:59,151 --> 04:05:03,556
the property manager or owner and we had no other

4077
04:05:03,556 --> 04:05:05,758
issues in that particular incident.

4078
04:05:05,758 --> 04:05:10,629
that being said I spoke with orlando and we agreed that

4079
04:05:10,629 --> 04:05:14,633
a citation would be issued to the property manager

4080
04:05:14,633 --> 04:05:15,968
which it was.

4081
04:05:15,968 --> 04:05:19,505
so, that is my recollection of the incident.

4082
04:05:19,505 --> 04:05:21,273
>> thank you chief.

4083
04:05:21,273 --> 04:05:24,376
>> thank you chief, that is correct.

4084
04:05:24,376 --> 04:05:27,479
the goal, always, for code is compliance.

4085
04:05:27,479 --> 04:05:32,785
our approach to that is one of doing things in a lawful

4086
04:05:32,785 --> 04:05:36,322
manner, interpreting the code with a reasonable person

4087
04:05:36,322 --> 04:05:38,900
standard and reasonable practices.

4088
04:05:38,900 --> 04:05:42,528
somebody perhaps who is not in this field could read

4089
04:05:42,528 --> 04:05:47,366
this section and interpret it in a way that it would

4090
04:05:47,366 --> 04:05:51,370
require what would seem like we could require someone

4091
04:05:51,370 --> 04:05:54,907
to show up and essentially execute an impromptu

4092
04:05:54,907 --> 04:05:59,778
subpoena of a free citizen to show up where it code

4093
04:05:59,778 --> 04:06:03,749
officer, police officer wants them to be within the

4094
04:06:03,749 --> 04:06:09,880
matter of an hour and somehow think that is not a civil

4095
04:06:09,880 --> 04:06:09,955
liberties issue.

4096
04:06:09,955 --> 04:06:14,827
in light of that insight them with $1000 is not lawful

4097
04:06:14,827 --> 04:06:16,595
or legal to expect.

4098
04:06:16,595 --> 04:06:21,467
that is why this section where it says we can require

4099
04:06:21,467 --> 04:06:21,900
someone.

4100
04:06:21,900 --> 04:06:26,338
>> can you read that entire part of the code?

4101
04:06:26,338 --> 04:06:27,206
>> 13.9.

4102
04:06:27,206 --> 04:06:29,875
every commercial representing must be physically

4103
04:06:29,875 --> 04:06:32,978
present at a vacation rental following notification

4104
04:06:32,978 --> 04:06:36,515
from a vacation rental occupant law enforcement officer

4105
04:06:36,515 --> 04:06:40,520
emergency personnel or the village for issues related

4106
04:06:40,520 --> 04:06:44,490
to vacation rental and shall be present at the location

4107
04:06:44,490 --> 04:06:46,692
in a timeframe when requested.

4108
04:06:46,692 --> 04:06:51,130
our policy which is approved by the deputy chief and

4109
04:06:51,130 --> 04:06:54,667
myself and ran through the manager village attorney,

4110
04:06:54,667 --> 04:06:58,637
code enforcement attorney and which is we would require

4111
04:06:58,637 --> 04:07:02,174
the presence of a representative during a true

4112
04:07:02,174 --> 04:07:06,178
emergency or if we confirm multiple violations at a

4113
04:07:06,178 --> 04:07:10,582
property. For example, if the car went to a property

4114
04:07:10,582 --> 04:07:14,153
as it were with those lamborghinis they completely

4115
04:07:14,153 --> 04:07:15,454
disregarded the officer.

4116
04:07:15,454 --> 04:07:19,892
they continued to race down the street or have allowed

4117
04:07:19,892 --> 04:07:24,763
party we would have to go back again and confirm the

4118
04:07:24,763 --> 04:07:25,664
second violation.

4119
04:07:25,664 --> 04:07:30,690
now this is a continued problem where we would escalate

4120
04:07:30,690 --> 04:07:33,605
what our enforcement would be to gain compliance.

4121
04:07:33,605 --> 04:07:36,275
so that is what we do.

4122
04:07:36,275 --> 04:07:39,812
emergency or confirmed repeat violation would be the

4123
04:07:39,812 --> 04:07:43,348
only reasonable reasons to have someone come out.

4124
04:07:43,348 --> 04:07:47,786
so, the idea that this impromptu subpoena of a person

4125
04:07:47,786 --> 04:07:52,191
who arrived at our discretion because we felt like it

4126
04:07:52,191 --> 04:07:56,195
would constitute a $1000 fine or strike against her

4127
04:07:56,195 --> 04:07:59,298
license is something that is not reasonable.

4128
04:07:59,298 --> 04:08:04,169
I understand it is not clear in this ordinance we agree

4129
04:08:04,169 --> 04:08:08,574
with that it's one of those things we are absently

4130
04:08:08,574 --> 04:08:13,445
going to clarify when we redo the ordinance and not to

4131
04:08:13,445 --> 04:08:18,317
create it as a strike because us not going to happen

4132
04:08:18,317 --> 04:08:23,188
and not to obligate the person to be there within an

4133
04:08:23,188 --> 04:08:27,159
hour because there is a violation is not reasonable.

4134
04:08:27,159 --> 04:08:32,300
we will clarify that to make so that only in an

4135
04:08:32,300 --> 04:08:36,340
emergency or on a case-by-case circumstance or we need

4136
04:08:36,340 --> 04:08:39,571
additional assistance to gain compliance and in our

4137
04:08:39,571 --> 04:08:44,900
track record of the last few years has not been

4138
04:08:44,900 --> 04:08:44,443
necessary.

4139
04:08:44,443 --> 04:08:48,413
our violations in 2028 we issued 52 citations for

4140
04:08:48,413 --> 04:08:51,830
properties operating illegally without a license

4141
04:08:51,830 --> 04:08:51,517
blatantly.

4142
04:08:51,517 --> 04:08:55,530
this year to date we've only had 18.

4143
04:08:55,530 --> 04:08:59,925
I'm going to keep drilling a down because him going to

4144
04:08:59,925 --> 04:09:03,929
keep repeating it, it's a top priority for us.

4145
04:09:03,929 --> 04:09:05,697
stvr's are top priorities.

4146
04:09:05,697 --> 04:09:11,300
where we were at two days ago to where we are today,

4147
04:09:11,300 --> 04:09:13,205
are there more stvr's? Yes.

4148
04:09:13,205 --> 04:09:16,308
but there are less problems with stvr's.

4149
04:09:16,308 --> 04:09:19,845
regardless we are not putting our guard down.

4150
04:09:19,845 --> 04:09:23,816
our zero-tolerance policy shows in the numbers and what

4151
04:09:23,816 --> 04:09:25,150
is going on.

4152
04:09:25,150 --> 04:09:30,220
she we feel that this reasonable standard is the way to

4153
04:09:30,220 --> 04:09:33,125
go and it is a lawful thing.

4154
04:09:33,125 --> 04:09:37,950
our attorney can clarify if you need clarification on

4155
04:09:37,950 --> 04:09:41,967
why we can't subpoena someone on the spot but I don't

4156
04:09:41,967 --> 04:09:45,537
know if there's any other questions are not.

4157
04:09:45,537 --> 04:09:49,942
>> I will asklegally background for this but let me

4158
04:09:49,942 --> 04:09:53,479
give the residential perspective on this and what

4159
04:09:53,479 --> 04:09:55,714
certain residents have told me.

4160
04:09:55,714 --> 04:10:00,118
the interpretation by the residence is, by some of the

4161
04:10:00,118 --> 04:10:04,556
residence, those who contacted me and many of you were

4162
04:10:04,556 --> 04:10:08,994
copied on the emails is that the city should insist

4163
04:10:08,994 --> 04:10:12,965
that the representative of the stvr arrive when called.

4164
04:10:12,965 --> 04:10:16,935
anytime there's a violation we didn't define this in

4165
04:10:16,935 --> 04:10:20,939
the interaction with the resident but anytime there is

4166
04:10:20,939 --> 04:10:24,910
an interaction with the stvr when arriving with the

4167
04:10:24,910 --> 04:10:28,914
seriousness of the strike that the manager should be

4168
04:10:28,914 --> 04:10:33,318
called to the scene and they should arrive within 60

4169
04:10:33,318 --> 04:10:33,785
minutes.

4170
04:10:33,785 --> 04:10:37,756
this is the point of view of the residence.

4171
04:10:37,756 --> 04:10:39,524
that is their interpretation.

4172
04:10:39,524 --> 04:10:44,396
we should do that as a code enforcement or a police

4173
04:10:44,396 --> 04:10:49,268
force call the manager of the stvr and check in within

4174
04:10:49,268 --> 04:10:51,904
60 minutes as an enforcement tool.

4175
04:10:51,904 --> 04:10:56,341
reason they feel this way is that these stvr's when

4176
04:10:56,341 --> 04:10:59,878
they create a disturbance are creating a disturbance

4177
04:10:59,878 --> 04:11:04,316
and quality of life and well-being of the residents of

4178
04:11:04,316 --> 04:11:08,754
the island so they feel that it is legitimate and

4179
04:11:08,754 --> 04:11:12,724
correct to then cause an inconvenience to the manager

4180
04:11:12,724 --> 04:11:17,596
of that stvr and you can understand that point of view

4181
04:11:17,596 --> 04:11:20,699
certainly is justifiable to think that way.

4182
04:11:20,699 --> 04:11:26,400
it makes sense from a certain point of view it makes a

4183
04:11:26,400 --> 04:11:27,339
lot of sense.

4184
04:11:27,339 --> 04:11:32,644
>> I seen that and I know the exact quote is let's

4185
04:11:32,644 --> 04:11:33,512
bother them.

4186
04:11:33,512 --> 04:11:37,516
unfortunately, let's bother them is not a code of

4187
04:11:37,516 --> 04:11:41,530
ethics or any performance standard that any ethical,

4188
04:11:41,530 --> 04:11:44,589
professional enforcement agency would have as a policy.

4189
04:11:44,589 --> 04:11:47,259
is this not a performance standard.

4190
04:11:47,259 --> 04:11:52,130
let's bother them is not what we do. We strive for

4191
04:11:52,130 --> 04:11:52,564
compliance.

4192
04:11:52,564 --> 04:11:53,899
not answers that.

4193
04:11:53,899 --> 04:11:58,770
>> let's say, what exactly is the policy at this time

4194
04:11:58,770 --> 04:12:00,973
in terms of making calls?

4195
04:12:00,973 --> 04:12:04,509
there was a policy memo dr. Ralph rosado.

4196
04:12:04,509 --> 04:12:05,410
>> yes.

4197
04:12:05,410 --> 04:12:07,179
>> what is that?

4198
04:12:07,179 --> 04:12:09,381
>> is in the powerpoint.

4199
04:12:09,381 --> 04:12:13,352
we have committed to calling them upon confirmation of

4200
04:12:13,352 --> 04:12:17,789
a violation is what we did with the lamborghini issue

4201
04:12:17,789 --> 04:12:22,661
which was the only issue we had the entire month last

4202
04:12:22,661 --> 04:12:23,950
month.

4203
04:12:23,950 --> 04:12:27,532
>> calling them but not insisting they came to the

4204
04:12:27,532 --> 04:12:27,966
scene.

4205
04:12:27,966 --> 04:12:32,838
>> not at all. Unnecessary. We call them we inform of

4206
04:12:32,838 --> 04:12:37,275
the violation and we follow-up and also we have added

4207
04:12:37,275 --> 04:12:41,246
the information to the monthly report as promised in

4208
04:12:41,246 --> 04:12:45,217
this month we've updated all the police activity for

4209
04:12:45,217 --> 04:12:49,654
the month which is a request and we committed through

4210
04:12:49,654 --> 04:12:53,191
calling them and strengthening our ordinance is what

4211
04:12:53,191 --> 04:12:54,960
were going to do.

4212
04:12:54,960 --> 04:12:59,831
elekta said, I don't know if it really needs to be

4213
04:12:59,831 --> 04:13:03,368
clarified that the impromptu request they are well

4214
04:13:03,368 --> 04:13:07,806
within their rights to not show up and we cannot

4215
04:13:07,806 --> 04:13:09,574
consider that a strike.

4216
04:13:09,574 --> 04:13:14,446
>> essentially you are saying if you were to call them

4217
04:13:14,446 --> 04:13:18,884
and they were not to show up essentially nothing happen

4218
04:13:18,884 --> 04:13:22,854
here there's no further enforcement you can take when

4219
04:13:22,854 --> 04:13:27,292
they don't come despite in the code it says they

4220
04:13:27,292 --> 04:13:27,726
should?

4221
04:13:27,726 --> 04:13:28,627
>> right.

4222
04:13:28,627 --> 04:13:29,494
>> okay.

4223
04:13:29,494 --> 04:13:33,310
>> whenever you want to hear from me?

4224
04:13:33,310 --> 04:13:37,903
>> it's time now. I think we need to establish this.

4225
04:13:37,903 --> 04:13:43,208
>> we revamp the ordinance can we try to see what can

4226
04:13:43,208 --> 04:13:48,980
be done? As far as them not showing up for that to be

4227
04:13:48,980 --> 04:13:54,286
a fine I don't see it happening and correct me if I'm

4228
04:13:54,286 --> 04:13:55,153
wrong mr.

4229
04:13:55,153 --> 04:13:58,723
attorney but we definitely could have bothering them

4230
04:13:58,723 --> 04:14:03,128
isn't a standard it is not a performance measure for

4231
04:14:03,128 --> 04:14:05,797
code violation for what we do.

4232
04:14:05,797 --> 04:14:09,768
we document code violations were going to have the

4233
04:14:09,768 --> 04:14:14,206
strikes reduced in the ultimate goal is to stop the

4234
04:14:14,206 --> 04:14:14,639
nuisance.

4235
04:14:14,639 --> 04:14:18,176
if that gets done that is the goal.

4236
04:14:18,176 --> 04:14:22,180
we obtained compliance so listing someone to come over

4237
04:14:22,180 --> 04:14:26,151
it does not cause everything. It would give someone

4238
04:14:26,151 --> 04:14:31,220
satisfaction that we got them out of bed and they had

4239
04:14:31,220 --> 04:14:32,357
to come over.

4240
04:14:32,357 --> 04:14:37,662
>> let's ask our attorney to do a pine and let me

4241
04:14:37,662 --> 04:14:38,563
specifically ask.

4242
04:14:38,563 --> 04:14:43,869
if we were to say as a commission which we might like

4243
04:14:43,869 --> 04:14:47,405
to say, we understand what the code enforcement

4244
04:14:47,405 --> 04:14:52,277
supervisor is saying and yet we want to take the point

4245
04:14:52,277 --> 04:14:57,149
of view and of course I can't speak for the commission

4246
04:14:57,149 --> 04:15:02,888
until he vote on this but I'm saying if we were to say

4247
04:15:02,888 --> 04:15:07,325
this as a commission we would like to instruct the

4248
04:15:07,325 --> 04:15:12,197
village manager to insist that a call is made to the,

4249
04:15:12,197 --> 04:15:17,502
per this code, this section of the code a call is made

4250
04:15:17,502 --> 04:15:21,473
to the supervisor of the home insisting that they

4251
04:15:21,473 --> 04:15:26,344
arrive on the scene and I guess the code does not

4252
04:15:26,344 --> 04:15:30,782
prescribe what the next step would be and that's a

4253
04:15:30,782 --> 04:15:34,319
problem but presumably the step would be further

4254
04:15:34,319 --> 04:15:38,290
enforcement action based on that person arriving or not

4255
04:15:38,290 --> 04:15:40,959
arriving on scene within 60 minutes.

4256
04:15:40,959 --> 04:15:46,698
if we were to elect to want to do that with that a

4257
04:15:46,698 --> 04:15:48,500
tenable course of action?

4258
04:15:48,500 --> 04:15:51,136
>> I'm not sure it is.

4259
04:15:51,136 --> 04:15:56,700
there is no ordinance so far that we been able to

4260
04:15:56,700 --> 04:15:59,978
uncover in the state of florida that allows the

4261
04:15:59,978 --> 04:16:03,548
municipality to sanction the responsible party for not

4262
04:16:03,548 --> 04:16:03,982
showing.

4263
04:16:03,982 --> 04:16:07,953
there are ordinances that do what north bay village

4264
04:16:07,953 --> 04:16:11,957
does which is mandating an appearance on scene if

4265
04:16:11,957 --> 04:16:12,390
demanded.

4266
04:16:12,390 --> 04:16:15,260
the next step is not there.

4267
04:16:15,260 --> 04:16:19,464
punishing you for not showing you know, I'm not sure

4268
04:16:19,464 --> 04:16:23,468
that the village has the legal authority to compel

4269
04:16:23,468 --> 04:16:27,500
somebody to appear in a situation like this.

4270
04:16:27,500 --> 04:16:29,207
we are looking at it.

4271
04:16:29,207 --> 04:16:33,178
where there is liability is where the responsible party

4272
04:16:33,178 --> 04:16:36,748
is contacted and refuses to take necessary action.

4273
04:16:36,748 --> 04:16:42,530
if they don't take action we can get them for a code

4274
04:16:42,530 --> 04:16:46,458
violation but forcing them to appear if they choose not

4275
04:16:46,458 --> 04:16:50,895
to appear we haven't finished all of our research yet

4276
04:16:50,895 --> 04:16:55,767
but there doesn't appear to be a whole lot of support

4277
04:16:55,767 --> 04:17:00,205
for this proposition that they could be fined for not

4278
04:17:00,205 --> 04:17:02,841
showing when they have been contacted.

4279
04:17:02,841 --> 04:17:08,146
>> let me ask you a related question and I don't want

4280
04:17:08,146 --> 04:17:12,584
to get too far off field specifically related to this

4281
04:17:12,584 --> 04:17:16,554
insistence on appearance, it seems like it might be

4282
04:17:16,554 --> 04:17:20,992
possible to mandate that someone lives at the home do

4283
04:17:20,992 --> 04:17:22,761
we talk about that?

4284
04:17:22,761 --> 04:17:27,632
>> that's one of the amendments that were looking at in

4285
04:17:27,632 --> 04:17:32,504
fact I brought it up and there's three things that were

4286
04:17:32,504 --> 04:17:36,410
brought to orlando's presentation just that we could

4287
04:17:36,410 --> 04:17:39,144
look at, owner occupied situation eliminating the

4288
04:17:39,144 --> 04:17:43,581
number of vehicles that are at the residence and also

4289
04:17:43,581 --> 04:17:45,784
the posting of a bond.

4290
04:17:45,784 --> 04:17:51,523
>> I don't want to get all over the place but I asked

4291
04:17:51,523 --> 04:17:55,961
that question to specifically say and again I'm not a

4292
04:17:55,961 --> 04:18:00,832
lawyer but if we can mandate someone to live at a

4293
04:18:00,832 --> 04:18:05,704
property can't you mandate them to show up at a given

4294
04:18:05,704 --> 04:18:06,137
time?

4295
04:18:06,137 --> 04:18:07,906
aren't those similar items?

4296
04:18:07,906 --> 04:18:11,900
>> I'm not sure sure they are.

4297
04:18:11,900 --> 04:18:12,777
>> sorry to interrupt.

4298
04:18:12,777 --> 04:18:16,314
these are different legal rights under those two

4299
04:18:16,314 --> 04:18:17,215
different scenarios.

4300
04:18:17,215 --> 04:18:22,870
I know there was a request for a legal memorandum in

4301
04:18:22,870 --> 04:18:27,392
there was some shack when we said we were going to fund

4302
04:18:27,392 --> 04:18:31,363
the statewide search and tracking of all stvr related

4303
04:18:31,363 --> 04:18:34,466
ordinances in the various challenges being waged

4304
04:18:34,466 --> 04:18:39,337
against them but I want to reassure people that we are

4305
04:18:39,337 --> 04:18:43,341
deftly taking the advantage that we pay lawyers to

4306
04:18:43,341 --> 04:18:44,209
represent us.

4307
04:18:44,209 --> 04:18:47,312
they are researching all of these ideas.

4308
04:18:47,312 --> 04:18:50,415
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld will get there.

4309
04:18:50,415 --> 04:18:52,183
>> I'm not finished.

4310
04:18:52,183 --> 04:18:57,550
one thing, if we can't compel someone to be living at

4311
04:18:57,550 --> 04:19:01,250
the residence, if we can't compel owner occupied we

4312
04:19:01,250 --> 04:19:07,232
might be able to say if you are going to have a home as

4313
04:19:07,232 --> 04:19:11,202
a short-term vacation rental that can be considered in

4314
04:19:11,202 --> 04:19:16,975
the sense of in some sense as a public use and so we

4315
04:19:16,975 --> 04:19:20,512
could require that short-term vacation rentals have to

4316
04:19:20,512 --> 04:19:24,480
be ada compliance which might disincentive I someone

4317
04:19:24,480 --> 04:19:26,718
from having a short-term occasion rental.

4318
04:19:26,718 --> 04:19:31,589
>> let me be clear we are not reaching a legal

4319
04:19:31,589 --> 04:19:35,560
conclusion that you can't require the owner to occupy.

4320
04:19:35,560 --> 04:19:39,970
there's at least one jurisdiction that apparently does

4321
04:19:39,970 --> 04:19:39,531
that.

4322
04:19:39,531 --> 04:19:44,402
the idea that compelling a property owner who is not on

4323
04:19:44,402 --> 04:19:48,840
the scene to appear and then find them for not

4324
04:19:48,840 --> 04:19:53,711
appearing as of today I think you are going too far.

4325
04:19:53,711 --> 04:19:58,116
>> you will have to provide reasonable notice and an

4326
04:19:58,116 --> 04:19:59,918
opportunity to be heard.

4327
04:19:59,918 --> 04:20:00,785
>> okay.

4328
04:20:00,785 --> 04:20:06,900
I think there's a problem to begin with in this part of

4329
04:20:06,900 --> 04:20:11,396
the code, now we spoken about it for some time we have

4330
04:20:11,396 --> 04:20:16,267
arrived at a problem which is even if we do compel

4331
04:20:16,267 --> 04:20:20,705
someone to come out within 60 minutes and they don't

4332
04:20:20,705 --> 04:20:25,577
show the code does not provide for any next action that

4333
04:20:25,577 --> 04:20:26,911
we would take.

4334
04:20:26,911 --> 04:20:28,246
that is problematic.

4335
04:20:28,246 --> 04:20:33,840
I don't mind asking to compel someone to show up. I

4336
04:20:33,840 --> 04:20:35,753
think it is toothless right now.

4337
04:20:35,753 --> 04:20:41,526
if her going to have that in the code we have to add

4338
04:20:41,526 --> 04:20:42,827
teeth to it.

4339
04:20:42,827 --> 04:20:44,162
if we can.

4340
04:20:44,162 --> 04:20:49,330
>> like I said the compulsion to appear does appear in

4341
04:20:49,330 --> 04:20:53,471
some other codes but we haven't found any code that

4342
04:20:53,471 --> 04:20:57,876
says if you fail to appear there will be sanctions

4343
04:20:57,876 --> 04:21:00,545
imposed against you for not appearing.

4344
04:21:00,545 --> 04:21:04,516
it is a two-sided thing your compelling people to

4345
04:21:04,516 --> 04:21:09,854
appear and if they say no I'm not going to appear what

4346
04:21:09,854 --> 04:21:12,560
can you do about it?

4347
04:21:12,560 --> 04:21:17,362
not sure there's much you can do but were not done with

4348
04:21:17,362 --> 04:21:18,263
our research.

4349
04:21:18,263 --> 04:21:22,667
our goal was to provide you a something in early

4350
04:21:22,667 --> 04:21:26,204
january and we are working diligently on it.

4351
04:21:26,204 --> 04:21:27,539
>> that's fine.

4352
04:21:27,539 --> 04:21:32,410
I was asked to bring this forward by the residence and

4353
04:21:32,410 --> 04:21:37,715
we did it and I didn't think it through to this point

4354
04:21:37,715 --> 04:21:43,210
because the next thing I would like to do is to insist

4355
04:21:43,210 --> 04:21:47,458
that immediately we start calling the manager but now I

4356
04:21:47,458 --> 04:21:52,330
realize that even if I insist on the and the commission

4357
04:21:52,330 --> 04:21:57,202
were to vote for and change the policy and compel the

4358
04:21:57,202 --> 04:22:00,738
police to call the manager within 60 minutes.

4359
04:22:00,738 --> 04:22:02,507
>> let me interject.

4360
04:22:02,507 --> 04:22:06,511
requiring the owner or the responsible party to be

4361
04:22:06,511 --> 04:22:10,481
available by phone to accept the context is a

4362
04:22:10,481 --> 04:22:13,585
completely different situation than requiring them to

4363
04:22:13,585 --> 04:22:14,919
appear on scene.

4364
04:22:14,919 --> 04:22:19,791
the idea is if you don't respond to this context within

4365
04:22:19,791 --> 04:22:24,195
an hour or whatever timeframe you're going to come up

4366
04:22:24,195 --> 04:22:27,298
with that could be a code violation.

4367
04:22:27,298 --> 04:22:31,269
it's far different than requiring that person to show

4368
04:22:31,269 --> 04:22:33,938
up on scene at his property.

4369
04:22:33,938 --> 04:22:38,810
you are putting the person on notice that there is a

4370
04:22:38,810 --> 04:22:43,681
problem of the property and it goes a step further if

4371
04:22:43,681 --> 04:22:48,553
you don't fix that problem we can find you for that.

4372
04:22:48,553 --> 04:22:52,991
that is far different than saying not only are we

4373
04:22:52,991 --> 04:22:57,395
calling you and advising you that there's a problem at

4374
04:22:57,395 --> 04:23:02,700
your property you must show up and if you don't show up

4375
04:23:02,700 --> 04:23:08,473
are going to find the that is a leap we are not willing

4376
04:23:08,473 --> 04:23:10,241
to make this yet.

4377
04:23:10,241 --> 04:23:15,113
>> at that point if we are calling them we've already

4378
04:23:15,113 --> 04:23:19,517
confirmed violation and we are citing them would be the

4379
04:23:19,517 --> 04:23:24,389
only reason we would call them and in many of the

4380
04:23:24,389 --> 04:23:28,393
ordinances we've looked at the section about duties of

4381
04:23:28,393 --> 04:23:32,363
vacation rental representative seems to be a copy and

4382
04:23:32,363 --> 04:23:36,367
paste that is in everybody's code this just been

4383
04:23:36,367 --> 04:23:38,569
something that everybody hasn't cooperated.

4384
04:23:38,569 --> 04:23:43,441
>> there are some departures in fact one code we found

4385
04:23:43,441 --> 04:23:47,412
requires the property owner to evict the tenant if

4386
04:23:47,412 --> 04:23:51,416
there is something in that condition. You legally if

4387
04:23:51,416 --> 04:23:54,952
you evict some person they usually long gone.

4388
04:23:54,952 --> 04:23:58,923
I understand your goal is to have the strictest

4389
04:23:58,923 --> 04:24:02,927
possible I don't know if the entire commission feels

4390
04:24:02,927 --> 04:24:07,765
that way but the idea is to have a strict ordinance

4391
04:24:07,765 --> 04:24:12,203
looking at ways to make it stricter and tighter without

4392
04:24:12,203 --> 04:24:13,538
going too far.

4393
04:24:13,538 --> 04:24:19,277
that is sort of what we are working on right now in the

4394
04:24:19,277 --> 04:24:23,281
concern about the appearance by the property owner or

4395
04:24:23,281 --> 04:24:27,251
the responsible party is something that we are looking

4396
04:24:27,251 --> 04:24:27,685
at.

4397
04:24:27,685 --> 04:24:33,240
as of now I don't see how we can commence that person

4398
04:24:33,240 --> 04:24:36,994
to show up if it's a failure to appear.

4399
04:24:36,994 --> 04:24:41,866
even if it's an emergency like there's a fire on the

4400
04:24:41,866 --> 04:24:46,738
property and you have a tenant that didn't turn off the

4401
04:24:46,738 --> 04:24:51,609
burners and it started a fire I still don't think you

4402
04:24:51,609 --> 04:24:56,914
can compel the owner to show up on scene even as his

4403
04:24:56,914 --> 04:24:58,683
property is burning down.

4404
04:24:58,683 --> 04:25:03,554
you've contacted him and he needs to take an action to

4405
04:25:03,554 --> 04:25:08,426
ready the situation but beyond that I don't know if you

4406
04:25:08,426 --> 04:25:13,297
can sanction him for saying I don't want to deal with

4407
04:25:13,297 --> 04:25:13,731
this.

4408
04:25:13,731 --> 04:25:15,660
call the police.

4409
04:25:15,660 --> 04:25:19,504
we are not there yet I'm just offering information on

4410
04:25:19,504 --> 04:25:20,371
the situation.

4411
04:25:20,371 --> 04:25:24,809
>> are there any additional measures we can take. The

4412
04:25:24,809 --> 04:25:28,780
three instances that come to mind are swift to

4413
04:25:28,780 --> 04:25:31,449
deliberate and in each case successful.

4414
04:25:31,449 --> 04:25:35,853
if we have to go further we contacted the property

4415
04:25:35,853 --> 04:25:40,291
manager and we got immediate compliance and it put each

4416
04:25:40,291 --> 04:25:42,590
issue to rest immediately.

4417
04:25:42,590 --> 04:25:46,931
looking at next steps at this point, I don't see the

4418
04:25:46,931 --> 04:25:51,803
reason why if the steps we have in place resulted in

4419
04:25:51,803 --> 04:25:54,906
these three cases of a successful outcome.

4420
04:25:54,906 --> 04:25:59,310
we have been seeing that with these types of cases.

4421
04:25:59,310 --> 04:26:03,314
we are getting successful outcomes so, that's just my

4422
04:26:03,314 --> 04:26:05,820
two cents on the.

4423
04:26:05,820 --> 04:26:10,388
>> we saw no more issues the rest of the weekends. We

4424
04:26:10,388 --> 04:26:14,358
accomplish the goal which was getting a strike against

4425
04:26:14,358 --> 04:26:17,461
the property and we stopped the nuisance.

4426
04:26:17,461 --> 04:26:22,333
>> I'm trying to get through, the feet back that I

4427
04:26:22,333 --> 04:26:25,200
would get under these circumstances. It

4428
04:26:25,200 --> 04:26:28,539
seemsreasonable to me when I am being told.

4429
04:26:28,539 --> 04:26:30,741
I can't think for others.

4430
04:26:30,741 --> 04:26:35,179
even though we think we are relatively sure that we

4431
04:26:35,179 --> 04:26:39,150
cannot enforce or insist that a supervisor arrived on

4432
04:26:39,150 --> 04:26:44,210
scene within 60 minutes can we still call and ask them

4433
04:26:44,210 --> 04:26:47,124
to come in case of a violation?

4434
04:26:47,124 --> 04:26:48,250
>> absolutely.

4435
04:26:48,250 --> 04:26:50,228
there's no doubt about that.

4436
04:26:50,228 --> 04:26:51,128
>> okay.

4437
04:26:51,128 --> 04:26:56,434
and until we come up with a new policy, we are coming

4438
04:26:56,434 --> 04:27:00,838
up with a new protocol in the coming months, were

4439
04:27:00,838 --> 04:27:03,941
talking about a month or two months.

4440
04:27:03,941 --> 04:27:09,247
in the interim as we are working on the code, dr. Ralph

4441
04:27:09,247 --> 04:27:13,684
rosado, can we institute a policy if we have an

4442
04:27:13,684 --> 04:27:17,655
incident that arrives at the seriousness of creating a

4443
04:27:17,655 --> 04:27:20,758
strike against the property and asked the

4444
04:27:20,758 --> 04:27:24,762
representative to come to the property as indicated in

4445
04:27:24,762 --> 04:27:28,733
the code, what happens after that, I don't know.

4446
04:27:28,733 --> 04:27:33,170
>> mayor, when we have the multiple meetings with the

4447
04:27:33,170 --> 04:27:36,707
two various stvr groups we committed, the initial

4448
04:27:36,707 --> 04:27:42,130
demand was we want you to call them and we committed to

4449
04:27:42,130 --> 04:27:44,682
call them and we did that.

4450
04:27:44,682 --> 04:27:49,553
and then there's a violation you have an issue at your

4451
04:27:49,553 --> 04:27:52,623
property we are putting you on notice.

4452
04:27:52,623 --> 04:27:56,627
having them come out once it's resolved serves no

4453
04:27:56,627 --> 04:27:57,610
purpose.

4454
04:27:57,610 --> 04:28:01,499
we also agreed if it's a repeat violation or something

4455
04:28:01,499 --> 04:28:06,370
of a serious nature that does become an offense of the

4456
04:28:06,370 --> 04:28:11,242
property we are going to tell them to come out here.

4457
04:28:11,242 --> 04:28:14,779
so we can meet and get this resolved.

4458
04:28:14,779 --> 04:28:17,882
and so we are doing that already.

4459
04:28:17,882 --> 04:28:18,749
>> okay.

4460
04:28:18,749 --> 04:28:23,621
I'm going to trunk this discussion as a show of good

4461
04:28:23,621 --> 04:28:27,625
faith for residents who are truly concerned about stvr

4462
04:28:27,625 --> 04:28:32,290
this may not come into play because we've had limited

4463
04:28:32,290 --> 04:28:36,901
stvr incidents in the last couple of months but in the

4464
04:28:36,901 --> 04:28:41,339
interim between now and these two ordinance can we put

4465
04:28:41,339 --> 04:28:46,210
in place a policy that is part of a strike creating

4466
04:28:46,210 --> 04:28:51,820
incident we call the manager and tell him or her to

4467
04:28:51,820 --> 04:28:51,949
come out?

4468
04:28:51,949 --> 04:28:55,520
that is what I would ask for.

4469
04:28:55,520 --> 04:28:57,254
I don't see the downside.

4470
04:28:57,254 --> 04:29:01,692
there's not necessarily an upside but I don't see a

4471
04:29:01,692 --> 04:29:03,461
downside and again-

4472
04:29:03,461 --> 04:29:07,431
>> when there is a threat to the property?

4473
04:29:07,431 --> 04:29:11,869
>> again, we have to establish criteria in the policy

4474
04:29:11,869 --> 04:29:16,741
but to me the criteria seems like when there is an

4475
04:29:16,741 --> 04:29:21,178
incident we have a list of incidents that causes a

4476
04:29:21,178 --> 04:29:25,583
strike against a property I don't know what they are

4477
04:29:25,583 --> 04:29:29,587
now but noise, etc., etc. When something like that

4478
04:29:29,587 --> 04:29:33,124
happens the policy would essentially be hey, stvr

4479
04:29:33,124 --> 04:29:36,660
manager there's an incident that's occurring that will

4480
04:29:36,660 --> 04:29:41,980
cause a strike against your property you need to come

4481
04:29:41,980 --> 04:29:46,404
as part of our code it says to come and what happens

4482
04:29:46,404 --> 04:29:48,172
next I don't know.

4483
04:29:48,172 --> 04:29:52,610
>> we can probably work something out in context but

4484
04:29:52,610 --> 04:29:57,448
using the noise as a specific example we would come in

4485
04:29:57,448 --> 04:30:02,319
and say to call them we had a noise violation okay.

4486
04:30:02,319 --> 04:30:06,323
having them come out after the noise violation is

4487
04:30:06,323 --> 04:30:06,757
resolved?

4488
04:30:06,757 --> 04:30:10,294
>> actually think people would universally agree that

4489
04:30:10,294 --> 04:30:15,166
we want to be careful we are in a public forum.

4490
04:30:15,166 --> 04:30:18,269
my question is, can we do that?

4491
04:30:18,269 --> 04:30:21,372
would we be willing to do that?

4492
04:30:21,372 --> 04:30:22,706
in the interim.

4493
04:30:22,706 --> 04:30:24,909
>> yes, we can call.

4494
04:30:24,909 --> 04:30:29,780
>> in the interim between now and we have it because

4495
04:30:29,780 --> 04:30:32,416
were going to clarify the code.

4496
04:30:32,416 --> 04:30:37,288
>> we mean by call, call or have them show up?

4497
04:30:37,288 --> 04:30:42,159
>> what I hear the mayor saying is call and require

4498
04:30:42,159 --> 04:30:43,928
them to show up.

4499
04:30:43,928 --> 04:30:46,597
but we can't go past that.

4500
04:30:46,597 --> 04:30:48,799
>> forget what comes next.

4501
04:30:48,799 --> 04:30:52,336
suet to the code come to the property.

4502
04:30:52,336 --> 04:30:56,340
>> mayor, that is what the code currently says.

4503
04:30:56,340 --> 04:31:00,744
>> says that. So that's the crux of this whole

4504
04:31:00,744 --> 04:31:04,748
conversation that we been outlining for a half-hour is

4505
04:31:04,748 --> 04:31:09,620
the current code allows us to do that and the residence

4506
04:31:09,620 --> 04:31:12,723
or say why are we doing it?

4507
04:31:12,723 --> 04:31:17,595
nobody is here to have a discussion about the logic of

4508
04:31:17,595 --> 04:31:21,565
it or what comes next or just saying look.

4509
04:31:21,565 --> 04:31:26,871
>> the other part of the code says it's up to the

4510
04:31:26,871 --> 04:31:30,875
discretion of the officer on scene and the police

4511
04:31:30,875 --> 04:31:34,411
department to decide whether or not it's really

4512
04:31:34,411 --> 04:31:37,470
necessary to have that person present.

4513
04:31:37,470 --> 04:31:41,485
lexi can interpret that from the code that is the

4514
04:31:41,485 --> 04:31:41,919
policy.

4515
04:31:41,919 --> 04:31:46,357
>> yes. I don't think the code prescribes that either.

4516
04:31:46,357 --> 04:31:48,559
it does not prescribe anything.

4517
04:31:48,559 --> 04:31:48,993
okay?

4518
04:31:48,993 --> 04:31:53,864
>> what I would like to see not removed from the

4519
04:31:53,864 --> 04:31:56,100
equation is the officers discretion.

4520
04:31:56,100 --> 04:32:00,700
if something is reasonable or unfounded then it stops

4521
04:32:00,700 --> 04:32:03,607
there. And no further action. Just because someone

4522
04:32:03,607 --> 04:32:08,913
called in and said there's a loud party at the pool and

4523
04:32:08,913 --> 04:32:13,350
we arrived there and we hear very low ambient music

4524
04:32:13,350 --> 04:32:18,656
that is something that we can ask them to lower it more

4525
04:32:18,656 --> 04:32:23,527
but I don't think that should rise the level of having

4526
04:32:23,527 --> 04:32:27,965
a property manager come out because someone called in a

4527
04:32:27,965 --> 04:32:29,733
complaint about loud music.

4528
04:32:29,733 --> 04:32:31,680
>> of course.

4529
04:32:31,680 --> 04:32:34,605
I don't think that's what were talking about.

4530
04:32:34,605 --> 04:32:37,708
>> 8c those thresholds or standards removed.

4531
04:32:37,708 --> 04:32:42,580
>> gift of a scenario where it doesn't trigger and you

4532
04:32:42,580 --> 04:32:45,216
need to come over here now.

4533
04:32:45,216 --> 04:32:48,752
>> let's say something like exceeding the occupancy

4534
04:32:48,752 --> 04:32:49,220
level.

4535
04:32:49,220 --> 04:32:53,190
yeah 18 people staying in this home, this four-bedroom

4536
04:32:53,190 --> 04:32:58,620
home, clearly that is a violation and it needs to be

4537
04:32:58,620 --> 04:33:01,165
addressed so how do you address that?

4538
04:33:01,165 --> 04:33:06,360
mr. Property owner you have to come out here you need

4539
04:33:06,360 --> 04:33:10,441
to address it and people say you don't address the

4540
04:33:10,441 --> 04:33:14,110
problem you're going to be fined for it.

4541
04:33:14,110 --> 04:33:19,316
if you don't want to come out you don't have to come

4542
04:33:19,316 --> 04:33:24,188
out but were finding you for it if were not addressing

4543
04:33:24,188 --> 04:33:25,550
the problem.

4544
04:33:25,550 --> 04:33:28,592
it doesn't say that in the village code.

4545
04:33:28,592 --> 04:33:32,596
that is a step that we should deftly take.

4546
04:33:32,596 --> 04:33:33,898
>> that's correct.

4547
04:33:33,898 --> 04:33:39,236
if we can't go the route of that were also going to

4548
04:33:39,236 --> 04:33:43,641
find you for not showing up, certainly we can find

4549
04:33:43,641 --> 04:33:47,177
people for not remediating the problem the property

4550
04:33:47,177 --> 04:33:49,413
owner once they been contacted.

4551
04:33:49,413 --> 04:33:54,718
>> it seems like we can and this is an interim measure

4552
04:33:54,718 --> 04:34:00,240
what we fix this. If we could and again I think you

4553
04:34:00,240 --> 04:34:04,895
need to define the criteria but the criteria for me the

4554
04:34:04,895 --> 04:34:08,866
simplest one is if we determine the violation that

4555
04:34:08,866 --> 04:34:12,870
causes disrespect to property if it doesn't arrive to

4556
04:34:12,870 --> 04:34:16,407
that seriousness it wouldn't be something that you

4557
04:34:16,407 --> 04:34:20,377
would call out or reason to call someone out.

4558
04:34:20,377 --> 04:34:25,249
we can agree to do that in the interim more than

4559
04:34:25,249 --> 04:34:30,120
anything it is a show of good faith to the residents

4560
04:34:30,120 --> 04:34:34,992
that we would like to see this and that would satisfy

4561
04:34:34,992 --> 04:34:37,227
think that would be satisfactory.

4562
04:34:37,227 --> 04:34:40,764
so we do have an agreement on that?

4563
04:34:40,764 --> 04:34:42,660
again, I understand.

4564
04:34:42,660 --> 04:34:46,503
I get everything that's being said and I don't agree

4565
04:34:46,503 --> 04:34:48,706
with a single thing okay?

4566
04:34:48,706 --> 04:34:52,710
so, if you agree unless something is stated differently

4567
04:34:52,710 --> 04:34:55,813
I would like to discuss it further.

4568
04:34:55,813 --> 04:34:58,449
we are in a public forum.

4569
04:34:58,449 --> 04:34:59,350
all right.

4570
04:34:59,350 --> 04:35:03,754
nothing further on that pure the next two points should

4571
04:35:03,754 --> 04:35:08,192
be relatively quick and then the other items are quick,

4572
04:35:08,192 --> 04:35:12,629
too. The next one is the legal memo and commissioner

4573
04:35:12,629 --> 04:35:16,600
rachel streitfeld started to speak about this and she's

4574
04:35:16,600 --> 04:35:19,703
correct. Thank you, chief and deputy chief.

4575
04:35:19,703 --> 04:35:24,141
I think there has been some misunderstanding as well on

4576
04:35:24,141 --> 04:35:28,545
the legal memo, dr. Ralph rosado described it as a

4577
04:35:28,545 --> 04:35:32,983
binary choice the fact that we did not decide to

4578
04:35:32,983 --> 04:35:36,954
proceed with the legal memo as interpreted that there

4579
04:35:36,954 --> 04:35:41,825
will not be any legal research done in terms of putting

4580
04:35:41,825 --> 04:35:46,697
this together it sounds like we are doing a lot of

4581
04:35:46,697 --> 04:35:47,598
legal research.

4582
04:35:47,598 --> 04:35:52,903
I don't know how this gets conveyed but I would like to

4583
04:35:52,903 --> 04:35:58,642
dance I will try to convey it but how do we convey what

4584
04:35:58,642 --> 04:36:03,800
legal research is being done and what is not being

4585
04:36:03,800 --> 04:36:03,514
done?

4586
04:36:03,514 --> 04:36:08,385
>> I might have to ask the questions of your finance

4587
04:36:08,385 --> 04:36:12,823
department but when our law firm since bills to the

4588
04:36:12,823 --> 04:36:18,128
village I don't know how it is broken down but to the

4589
04:36:18,128 --> 04:36:22,566
extent to which it's broken down we go through time

4590
04:36:22,566 --> 04:36:26,103
with different things and we describe spending two

4591
04:36:26,103 --> 04:36:30,730
hours reviewing the city of destin ordinance on stvr

4592
04:36:30,730 --> 04:36:35,379
that should be in the bill. All of the hours we are

4593
04:36:35,379 --> 04:36:40,717
spending on stvr should be in the bill and I think we

4594
04:36:40,717 --> 04:36:46,230
receive some of it you pay a retainer to the firm but

4595
04:36:46,230 --> 04:36:49,126
our time is still baked into that.

4596
04:36:49,126 --> 04:36:54,431
if I have to account for eight hours I'm going to say

4597
04:36:54,431 --> 04:36:58,869
two hours spent on stvr research, one hour was spent

4598
04:36:58,869 --> 04:37:03,740
leading to a court decision and we can clearly try to

4599
04:37:03,740 --> 04:37:08,579
break that down for you if that would be helpful and

4600
04:37:08,579 --> 04:37:13,917
show the amount of time we are spending on this but it

4601
04:37:13,917 --> 04:37:15,686
is part and parcel.

4602
04:37:15,686 --> 04:37:20,557
>> that is one thing and we can understand that the

4603
04:37:20,557 --> 04:37:24,528
next question is there are specific cases that are

4604
04:37:24,528 --> 04:37:28,966
pointed out saying what about this or what about that

4605
04:37:28,966 --> 04:37:34,271
and in the follow-up question is how do we know if we

4606
04:37:34,271 --> 04:37:36,390
don't comprehensively review everything?

4607
04:37:36,390 --> 04:37:37,374
but we are.

4608
04:37:37,374 --> 04:37:42,679
it would be negligent for us not to do that. We can't

4609
04:37:42,679 --> 04:37:47,117
recommend to a client to take certain steps tiered we

4610
04:37:47,117 --> 04:37:52,422
have to be able to provide you with the state of the

4611
04:37:52,422 --> 04:37:56,393
law today and granted this is an extremely fluid

4612
04:37:56,393 --> 04:37:56,827
situation.

4613
04:37:56,827 --> 04:38:01,265
but I don't know how many municipalities there are in

4614
04:38:01,265 --> 04:38:05,702
the state of florida but many of them have short-term

4615
04:38:05,702 --> 04:38:06,570
rental vacations.

4616
04:38:06,570 --> 04:38:07,905
>> over 500.

4617
04:38:07,905 --> 04:38:12,776
>> we are looking at the one set of been challenged.

4618
04:38:12,776 --> 04:38:17,214
the leading expert of vacation rentals in our law firm

4619
04:38:17,214 --> 04:38:20,751
and speak certainly throughout the state and even

4620
04:38:20,751 --> 04:38:25,155
internationally on this stuff. We have a good body of

4621
04:38:25,155 --> 04:38:30,270
expert in the firm that's been looking at this not just

4622
04:38:30,270 --> 04:38:33,130
for you but for other cities, too.

4623
04:38:33,130 --> 04:38:37,134
we feel comfortable with any recommendations we make to

4624
04:38:37,134 --> 04:38:39,770
you that have been thoroughly reviewed.

4625
04:38:39,770 --> 04:38:45,542
by all the top people in the firm and we have looked at

4626
04:38:45,542 --> 04:38:49,947
all of the ordinances and court cases and the attorney

4627
04:38:49,947 --> 04:38:52,182
general's and having any relevancy.

4628
04:38:52,182 --> 04:38:57,540
>> one quick thing, it's been mentioned to me and I

4629
04:38:57,540 --> 04:39:00,591
think this is interesting and daytona beach was

4630
04:39:00,591 --> 04:39:04,127
referenced. Some cities might have provisions in their

4631
04:39:04,127 --> 04:39:08,532
laws that predate the preemption that you can go back

4632
04:39:08,532 --> 04:39:13,403
and interpret it in such a way as to complicate or

4633
04:39:13,403 --> 04:39:16,974
prohibit stvr's. Were you familiar with that thinking?

4634
04:39:16,974 --> 04:39:21,378
>> read the email but I'm not familiar with that

4635
04:39:21,378 --> 04:39:21,812
thinking.

4636
04:39:21,812 --> 04:39:27,150
>> we can have a side discussion about it and see if

4637
04:39:27,150 --> 04:39:29,353
there's something there or not.

4638
04:39:29,353 --> 04:39:33,790
I'm not familiar with our entire land use code before

4639
04:39:33,790 --> 04:39:34,658
2011 either.

4640
04:39:34,658 --> 04:39:36,860
there might be something there.

4641
04:39:36,860 --> 04:39:41,732
>> there was an email in reference to one marco island

4642
04:39:41,732 --> 04:39:46,169
was doing and that was a mischaracterization of what is

4643
04:39:46,169 --> 04:39:48,372
going on in marco island.

4644
04:39:48,372 --> 04:39:51,942
so, essentially marco island is dealing with other

4645
04:39:51,942 --> 04:39:56,346
issues related to stvr not like what we are dealing

4646
04:39:56,346 --> 04:39:58,582
with in north bay village.

4647
04:39:58,582 --> 04:40:03,420
the things that have the most teeth are the island and

4648
04:40:03,420 --> 04:40:07,858
destin and those are the ones we are modeling our

4649
04:40:07,858 --> 04:40:11,395
ordinance amendments after and there are cities who

4650
04:40:11,395 --> 04:40:15,832
have tried to go further and they been challenged and

4651
04:40:15,832 --> 04:40:16,266
lost.

4652
04:40:16,266 --> 04:40:20,270
all of that will be baked into whatever recommendations

4653
04:40:20,270 --> 04:40:25,575
we offer and there will be some sort of memo that comes