[6:52] >> good evening.
[6:53] this is the regular village commission meeting for
[6:56] wednesday, december 8, 2021 peered the time is 7:10
[7:00] p.m. And I'm calling this meeting to order madame clerk
[7:05] can you please call the meeting roll call?
[7:08] >> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[7:11] commissioner richard chervony?
[7:12] commissioner julianna strout?
[7:13] commissioner rachel streitfeld?
[7:15] commissioner julianna strout are you there?
[7:17] mayor, you have a quorum.
[7:20] >> thank you.
[7:21] I would like to say the pledge of allegiance.
[7:25] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states
[7:30] of america into the republic for which it stands one
[7:34] nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice
[7:38] for all.
[7:39] >> I am sorry?
[7:40] no, I did not waste the flag myself but I do not mind
[7:46] it being over there.
[7:48] we can see it from here.
[7:50] yesterday was pearl harbor day and we should all
[7:54] remember.
[7:55] let's have a quick moment of silence to remember the
[7:59] soldiers who may have sacrificed in pearl harbor and
[8:03] world war ii. Thank you.
[8:06] okay, order of business.
[8:07] did anyone have anything for the order of business?
[8:11] commissioner richard chervony?
[8:13] >> I would like to pull from the consentagenda items
[8:17] a1, a2, and a3 and I know that laurel was kind enough
[8:22] to get us and ordinance that was approved by p & z. I
[8:28] would like to add that to the agenda.
[8:32] >> is it an ordinance?
[8:34] does it need to be advertised?
[8:37] it is okay to edit tonight.
[8:39] >>> okay.
[8:40] let's add that as 13 b essentially 13 c.
[8:44] correct?
[8:44] >> mayor, ken we also pull 11 a?
[8:48] >> I was going to ask to pull that as well.
[8:53] we will pull those from the consent and add those to
[8:58] the top of the discussion items and then we have a
[9:03] request from our marketing director, our communication
[9:06] and shall even direct your. We would liketo move item
[9:10] on 14b and we have a few professionals on the line that
[9:15] could help with that presentation and we want to
[9:19] respect their time.
[9:21] is there anything else?
[9:23] >> I have something mayor.
[9:25] >> dr. Ralph rosado I have something.
[9:28] you would like it for two january, fine.
[9:31] okay.
[9:32] let's move to presentations.
[9:34] employee of the month, december 2021.
[9:36] is it going to be angela?
[9:39] welcome.
[9:39] >> I wanted to divide a brief introduction.
[9:43] we have to present the november and december employees
[9:47] of the month.
[9:48] the november employee of the month sandra sigman was
[9:52] out.
[9:53] we hope she will join usat the front of the room.
[9:58] these are long-term employees and we are proud of the
[10:02] work you have done for us for so many years. This was
[10:07] an easy choice for us and they have tremendous support
[10:12] across the entire organization as they work closely
[10:15] with our staff village wide.
[10:17] we are pleased to honor in november sandra sigman first
[10:22] of all. Sandra, will you join us?
[10:25] [laughter]
[10:25] [applause] angela, our cfo has written a lovely essay
[10:29] on sandra's behalf. I asked her to read. It is a
[10:34] paragraph in itentirety.[laughter]
[10:36] >> good eveningmayor, vice mayor and commissioners.
[10:39] I would love to read my essay.
[10:42] >> really, you wrote an essay?
[10:44] >> it is a paragraph. It was right after budget, so I
[10:50] was emotional.
[10:51] but seriously, sandra is a very valued employee and
[10:55] coworker. Everyday sandra comes into the office and
[10:58] goes above and beyond for the people she works for and
[11:03] with.
[11:03] that was definitely never more obvious and in the
[11:07] budget cycle.
[11:08] and, it was my first budget cycle here but it wasn't my
[11:14] first budget cycle obviously in my life.
[11:17] she was very impressive.
[11:19] we even had a 14 hour zoom and she didn't complain
[11:23] once.
[11:24] >> 14 hours?
[11:25] >> 14 hours.
[11:26] I got a text or a call from johnny, he thought my zoom
[11:32] id had been hacked.
[11:34] so-
[11:35] >> that is impressive.
[11:37] >> she spends in less nights and weekends helping with
[11:41] the budget and she could have spent it with her family.
[11:46] some of those examples are one-on-one with you guys
[11:50] during the budget. She was actually in columbia with
[11:54] her family on vacation yet she set aside time to make
[11:59] sure she was on that zoom call.
[12:02] >>.[indiscernable] [laughter]
[12:03] >> she is always available. She always makes herself
[12:07] available to any village employee including myself, the
[12:10] village manager, pd, anyone.
[12:12] I would say that the village is fortunate to have her
[12:17] as an employee. She gives so much of herself without
[12:21] asking for anything in return. Based on her unwavering
[12:25] commitment to the village that is why I nominated her
[12:30] for employee of the month.
[12:32] [applause]
[12:32] >> beautiful.
[12:33] >> should beget a picture?
[12:36] >> yes, please.
[12:37] angela, don't go too far away.
[12:40] our employee of the month in december has been with us
[12:45] for over 25 years.
[12:47] this is amenta clinton.
[12:48] she is very much committed to north bay village and I
[12:53] think everyone knows she is also a resident.
[12:57] we want to thank her for her strong collaborative work
[13:01] and dedication to the department.
[13:03] I know that angela would like to say some words.
[13:08] [applause]
[13:08] >> like the manager said she has been here for over 25
[13:14] years starting out as a part-time employee at the post
[13:18] office.
[13:18] she transitioned 16 years ago to overseeing payroll and
[13:22] she now does things like processing the off-duty
[13:26] payments for the police department which is challenging
[13:30] at times.
[13:30] she does things like the most recent thing she does on
[13:35] her off time is she came in to help with the veterans
[13:41] day luncheon.
[13:41] that just shows what a team player she is.
[13:45] and, I think that is most impressive to me and shows
[13:50] what a strong character she has because of the things
[13:55] she has to deal with at home.
[13:58] that just shows that she does anything for anyone.
[14:02] it is impressive to me. She goes through a lot and she
[14:07] is always smiling. That is why we nominated her for
[14:12] the december employee of the month.
[14:14] we could not live without her.
[14:17] [laughter] true.
[14:18] she is great.
[14:19] we did nominate her.
[14:21] >> foreshadowing.
[14:22] [laughter]
[14:22] >> yes.
[14:23] >> angela, thank you for having the backs of the
[14:28] employees in your department as you do.
[14:31] in q.
[14:32] >> thank you.
[14:33] [applause] [cross talk] [applause]
[14:35] >> chief, I think you are on.
[14:38] >> absolutely.
[14:39] we have an exciting addition. I know some of you got
[14:44] to meet him during our thanksgiving luncheon but
[14:47] tonight is the formal introduction of our latest
[14:51] officer, he joins us from the great city of opa locka
[14:56] where he served for six years and we are very pleased
[15:01] to welcome him. He is taking the place of officer
[15:05] daniels so he will join us with the school board. We
[15:10] are excited.
[15:11] johnny has a wonderful track record and is wonderful
[15:15] personality will be a shining star in our department,
[15:19] no doubt. I would like to handed over for the chieffor
[15:24] further information.
[15:25] >> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners and
[15:29] members of the public. I'm excited to introduce
[15:32] officer johnny. I said this when our previous officer
[15:36] created the vacancy left. I look at these as great
[15:41] opportunities.
[15:41] opportunities to raise the bar.
[15:43] professionalism, to make the department better, to
[15:46] bring people with great skill sets into become public
[15:50] safety professionals for north bay village.
[15:53] officer johnny was on our radar right away he came with
[15:58] tremendous recommendations.
[15:59] his work in a blocker was outstanding.
[16:02] everyone had tremendous accolades for johnny so we put
[16:06] him on the radar and quickly started the process and
[16:10] realized he was the real deal.
[16:13] briefly, the purpose of today is a brief intro because
[16:17] we will do a formal swearing in ceremony and
[16:21] promotional ceremony at the end of january.
[16:24] johnny was born in new york city and we will not hold
[16:30] that against him.
[16:31] [laughter] he did move to boston where he grew up and
[16:36] met his wife, teresa.
[16:38] donnie and his wife, teresa have been married for 19
[16:42] years. They have three wonderful children I happen to
[16:46] meet one of them the youngest one who is attending st.
[16:51] thomas diversity.
[16:52] he has a degree in information technology from the
[16:56] university of phoenix.
[16:57] he worked in it in boston at john hancock and also ran
[17:02] a successful martial arts school where he taught men,
[17:06] women and children.
[17:08] he has defensive tactics to add to our training unit.
[17:12] he has also trained nationally and internationally
[17:15] competing in tae kwon do in 2004.
[17:18] he was accepted to the police department academy and
[17:22] decided to bypass his goal of becoming a police officer
[17:27] at that time.
[17:28] because he had a newborn daughter.
[17:31] johnny and his family arrived in florida in 2004.
[17:35] he had a couple of jobs before putting himself through
[17:39] the police academy and graduated in 2012.
[17:42] he worked for the opa locka police department as a
[17:47] manager stated and then elevated himself to detective
[17:50] and did outstanding work there. Everyone we spoke to
[17:54] had nothing but great things to say. Like I said, we
[17:59] saw that as the opportunity to raise the bar in the
[18:04] police department and we are excited to have johnny as
[18:08] part of our team.
[18:10] congratulations.
[18:11] [applause]
[18:11] >> of course I am excited to be here. All of my
[18:16] interactions have been fabulous with everyone I have
[18:20] met and spoken to. I am excited to be here. I thank
[18:25] each and everyone of you for the opportunity.
[18:29] >> welcome johnny.
[18:30] >> welcome!
[18:31] >> I think that concludes the presentation's part of
[18:35] the program paid we can move onto the open forum.
[18:39] >> mayor, for the record I wanted to announce that
[18:44] commissioner julianna strout mentioned to me she is on
[18:48] zoom and is in attendance.
[18:50] >> I haven't been able to get on the zoom meeting yet
[18:55] so if she does at some point want to make a comment
[19:01] please let me know we can include her.
[19:04] is there anyone online for the open forum?
[19:08] would anyone in the public like to make a comment to
[19:13] the commission? A presentation?
[19:14] regards?
[19:15] anything?
[19:15] nothing? Okay, we are good and we will move on.
[19:20] the approval of commission minutes?
[19:22] commissioner richard chervony?
[19:23] >>item 5c.
[19:24] >> I'm sorry.
[19:25] >> those are the regular village commission meetings
[19:29] from 11/9.
[19:30] >> when we open those up it gives me the minutes of
[19:35] october 12th.
[19:36] I was not able to see the minutes of november night.
[19:41] I would liketo record that for the next meeting when
[19:45] they are there.
[19:47] other than that I will make a motion to approve item 5a
[19:52] and 5b.
[19:53] >> I will second.
[19:55] >> all in favor?
[19:56] anyone against?
[19:57] okay.
[19:58] >> mr. Mayor, sorry to interrupt.
[20:00] there is one item on the consent with the approving of
[20:05] the eco-pod.
[20:06] did you pull it?
[20:08] no?
[20:08] okay.
[20:09] matt, I have just been informed that matt from eco-pod
[20:13] is here and if we can it would be great to give him a
[20:19] moment to speak about the partnership.
[20:22] >> let's do that.
[20:24] when is the appropriate time to do that?
[20:27] >> now, he is here.
[20:30] >> it is on the consent agenda end let's go ahead. We
[20:35] just did the open forum.
[20:37] >> thank you.
[20:38] welcome, matt.
[20:39] >> good evening.
[20:41] thank you, mr. Mayor, vice mayor and commissioners.
[20:44] my name is matthew going.
[20:46] sometimes when you think you have a presentation and
[20:50] it's in the bag you just go with it.
[20:54] it was on the consent and in all seriousness what I
[20:59] would like to say is you are the first municipality to
[21:04] step forward to offer a refill solution to residents
[21:08] and you need to be commended for that because that is
[21:13] fantastic.
[21:13] right now, the single use plastic issue is not just an
[21:18] environmental problem, it is a crisis. There's micro
[21:22] plastics showing up in health studies. I'm not going
[21:26] to bore you with details but the one fact we are all
[21:31] interested in is by 2050 there will be more single use
[21:36] plastic in the ocean by weight then fish.
[21:40] to step forward and do this and offer it is
[21:44] commendable. I think it is a historicday, honestly
[21:48] because other units apologies will follow suit and I
[21:52] want to thank you for considering it.
[21:55] >> thank you, I would like to ask you a couple of
[22:00] questions.
[22:00] you are going to presumably do some press on this or
[22:05] media?
[22:06] can we help you with that? We have a great public
[22:11] relations communicator.
[22:11] and we know that that is something that we would like
[22:16] to help with.
[22:18] >> yeah, it would be great to take a photo now, if
[22:23] possible.
[22:23] and, I also, matt, thank you so much.
[22:27] your words are very resonant here.
[22:30] I also think it is wonderful and remarkable about this
[22:34] partnership. It came through one of our resident.
[22:38] the idea to bring eco-pods to north bay village came
[22:42] from a volunteer on our sustainability and resiliency
[22:45] task force have great staff that was able to follow-up
[22:50] and it is another great example in the way that our
[22:55] community leads from the ground up.
[22:57] >> thank you, very much.
[23:00] we would love to work with the communications director.
[23:04] we would love to make agreat public relations event
[23:08] out of it. One of the things you should know is that
[23:13] one of our partners in this is armando perez better
[23:17] known as pitbull. He is a huge environmentalist. A
[23:21] lot of people don't know that. He is also a safe
[23:26] waterdrinking water ambassador and is very committed
[23:29] and I'm sure he would love to get involved as well.
[23:34] >> sounds good. Helen is standing next to you.
[23:38] >> we do have a press release that is waiting to go
[23:43] out.
[23:44] the next step, and we were in talks earlier today is to
[23:49] finalize a date for a ribbon-cutting when we officially
[23:53] install. That will be coming up in january in the new
[23:58] year just so you guys are aware.
[24:01] >> we need to get the word out to the residence so they
[24:07] can start utilizing the service. Thank you very much,
[24:11] fantastic.
[24:11] do we want to do a photo now?
[24:15] >> yeah, let's do it.
[24:17] >> we might as well.
[24:19] >> the machine will be placed outside?
[24:22] do we want to take a picture in that location?
[24:27] okay.
[24:27] >> thank you,fantastic.
[24:29] thank you captain.
[24:30] all right.
[24:31] fantastic.
[24:31] where were we?
[24:33] we didn't get all of the minutes through but we did get
[24:38] some of them, so that is good.
[24:41] advisory board minutesplease.
[24:42] >> after a review of the advisory board, can we have an
[24:48] updated list of who has missed more meetings than they
[24:52] have allowed? If there is a good excuseand put that
[24:57] next to them now. If they were in the hospital don't
[25:01] want to ding them for it but we need to review that.
[25:07] >> okay, thank you.
[25:08] okay, village commission's report.
[25:10] oh, denny!
[25:11] come on up.
[25:12] >> good evening everybody.
[25:14] I wanted to make a report because this is the last
[25:19] meeting of the year.
[25:21] we have done so much this year.
[25:24] I am denise o'brien, chair of sustainability and
[25:27] resiliency task force.
[25:29] I wanted to make sure to mark this day because this
[25:34] year has been really an amazing year and very
[25:38] productive in all areas not just in resiliency.
[25:41] we had the workshop on stormwater management and we
[25:45] have already heard about what this commission is doing
[25:49] to save the community. This is what we are talking
[25:54] about here. However, there was one project where you
[25:58] the commission made a resolution in april.
[26:01] we are asking our task force to come back to you with
[26:06] some recommendations on a marine protected area.
[26:09] those recommendations should come to you by the end of
[26:14] the year so it is not on your agenda today. I will
[26:19] make a quick recitation of all the work we did, as you
[26:24] have asked and then it can be put on the agenda
[26:29] whenever the appropriate meeting is next year. I'm
[26:33] going to try to share my screen and laura said this
[26:37] would work, right?
[26:39] okay.
[26:40] we talked about this as a marine protected area.
[26:44] the idea had been to have something that was very
[26:48] clearly limit stated with all sorts of rules and
[26:52] regulations.
[26:52] as you can see, the title we have here is north bay
[26:58] village marine park had how did we go from a marine
[27:03] protected area to a park? This is what I will be
[27:08] presenting to you. The idea of having a project in
[27:12] north bay village to make our contribution in saving
[27:16] this clean bay came in part as a response to the
[27:21] biscayne bay task force per they issued a report in
[27:25] 2020 and among the recommendations they had to specific
[27:29] ones we will be addressing with this initiative there
[27:33] recommendations 6a is about raising awareness and
[27:36] education and the recommendation 6g called to support
[27:40] something they call "living laboratory for bay health".
[27:43] if you are wondering what is a living laboratory, it
[27:48] means having new technology in the bay.
[27:51] in the water.
[27:52] technology that is designed to save the bay.
[27:56] I say, save the bay to resuscitate the bay because it
[28:01] is gone, the bay.
[28:02] this picture shows you the fish kill. This was right
[28:07] outside of my building on harbor island more than a
[28:11] year ago.
[28:12] it was following this fish kill that we decided we
[28:17] really had to do something.
[28:19] that is when you as a commission passes resolution
[28:23] asking the task force to come back with some proposals.
[28:27] what could north bay village do and implement
[28:31] recommendations from the task force and how can we
[28:35] continue to be a leader you mac we have established
[28:39] ourselves as leaders in this field.
[28:42] we are small but we have strong leadership.
[28:45] the commission asked us to consult throughout the year
[28:49] with people from the academic community the elected
[28:53] officials from the county. Also with various advisory
[28:56] boards hereand that's exactly what we did throughout
[29:00] the year. It was a result of this consulting that led
[29:05] to this change from a marine protected area to a
[29:09] northbay village marine park.
[29:11] you must think of this as a park.
[29:15] usually when you think of a park you think of walking
[29:19] over somewhere and there are swings, slides or a dog
[29:24] park.
[29:24] this is on land and we are talking about a park that
[29:30] will be in the water. We are talking aboutus as a
[29:35] village going beyond our land-based and having a
[29:38] presence in the water.
[29:40] we have islands, how can we not have a presence in the
[29:45] water?
[29:46] we wanted to create a marine park and this is the
[29:50] recommendation coming to you.
[29:52] there are three pillars for this park.
[29:55] three types of activities that we would like to engage
[30:00] in in this area that is going to be the park.
[30:05] the first one is scientific.
[30:07] it is to allow the scientists from the university of
[30:11] miami and from fiu through which we have an
[30:15] understanding to use the waters of north bay village to
[30:20] implement the living laboratory that was called for
[30:23] from the biscayne bay task force. We will be the first
[30:28] ever unison polity to step up and say we are going to
[30:33] help you create a living laboratory.
[30:36] it does not mean we will have financial cost or we will
[30:41] pay for any of these projects and it does not mean that
[30:47] we are going to have to do all of the permitting and
[30:52] liability. It will be in the hands of whoever has
[30:56] proposed these projects and it will go through a
[31:00] guiding process, the project must be accepted so there
[31:04] is no financial or permitting or legal responsibility.
[31:08] the second one is educational programs.
[31:11] we want to educate to create awareness. They talk
[31:15] about in the meeting we had with fiu professors they
[31:19] said k through gray. He saidkindergarten through the
[31:22] old people like myself.
[31:24] so to be able to educate all the residents but our
[31:29] children.
[31:30] most importantly are the children.
[31:32] if we cannot have a new generation that understand
[31:36] biscayne bay who understand the history or don't know
[31:40] what happens to it or understand what caused it to die
[31:45] but more important, it will be instrumental in bringing
[31:49] it back to life.
[31:50] this awareness, this educational program, we will be
[31:54] developing under this banner of the north bay village
[31:58] park paired what do you do in a park? Were going to
[32:03] have education and awareness raising and finally
[32:06] recreation.
[32:07] how many of you have been in the bay or on the bay in
[32:13] the last six month?
[32:15] okay.
[32:15] what we want is to make sure that all of our residents
[32:20] have the opportunity to either go into the water or on
[32:25] the water.
[32:26] we want to open this whole space up to them.
[32:31] it is a space that is not open to them it is only open
[32:37] to these private property owners that have these
[32:40] seawalls that we have all these discussions about.
[32:44] what about everybody else?
[32:46] it has been discussed so much and as we develop the bay
[32:51] walk, the island walk, and two projects back to the
[32:55] island walk.
[32:56] we are going to be giving more access to the bay and
[33:02] that is the idea. It is a marine park.
[33:06] if it is a marine park our residents must have access
[33:10] to it.
[33:11] were going to work to develop more points of access and
[33:16] intrigue.
[33:17] this little highlights, thank you richard.
[33:19] this shows the jurisdiction of waters.
[33:22] all of these activities these 3 pillars can take place
[33:26] anywhere.
[33:27] within the jurisdictional waters, they will not be
[33:30] tricked into a specific area as a marine protected area
[33:35] would have been. They won't be restricted to a
[33:39] specific activity.
[33:40] we might do kayak access at vogel park.
[33:43] we might have some swimming activities out of the east
[33:48] drive park.
[33:49] we will be able to develop different activities and we
[33:53] will have activities on land.
[33:55] the idea that it is a marine park but we could also
[34:01] have activities on land.
[34:02] the governance of this we will propose is that the
[34:07] condition would create a nbv marine park committee.
[34:10] the idea is to have someone from the commission,
[34:14] someone from the task force, someone from the
[34:18] university of miami, fiu and to ngo that would steer
[34:22] the process.
[34:23] they would be the ones to coordinate and solicit
[34:27] projects and ideas to make things happen in this park.
[34:32] they would be steering the way to make this park a
[34:36] reality. And for your information that is not the son,
[34:41] that is the moon in that picture.
[34:44] scientific we already have a scientific experiment
[34:47] going on in the water.
[34:49] you can see our mayor brent latham there holding rebar.
[34:54] unless he's gone to the gym and has superpowers that we
[34:58] were aware of, no human being could lift the
[35:03] traditional rebar.
[35:03] a way way too much.
[35:06] these are the rebar that has been developed by the
[35:10] university of miami and they do not rest.
[35:14] they are based on materials that don't rest and rest is
[35:18] what breaks down the seawall.
[35:21] if you are going to ralph, be looking at companies that
[35:25] might have done work around here.
[35:28] not many companies north would know companies have done
[35:32] work with these rebar's.
[35:34] you should be looking at companies that are interested
[35:38] in innovation and interested in giving to our village,
[35:42] seawalls that will last decades beyond the existing
[35:45] technology.
[35:46] you're going to need seawalls that are modular.
[35:49] existing seawalls are not modular.
[35:52] if you want to put in a new seawall you have to destroy
[35:57] the old one new seawalls being designed by the
[36:01] university of miami are modular.
[36:04] you can go up, you can adapt.
[36:07] we talked about the need for adaptation for a plan to
[36:12] be flexible.
[36:12] these new designs give it.
[36:15] we already have a specific project in nbv park.
[36:19] my goal here is to have five more projects of different
[36:23] types or just an expansion of this one with more
[36:28] private sector owners involved in this.
[36:31] education.
[36:31] we have now gotten in agreement from the thai school to
[36:36] have blue scholars come in and provide free of cost a
[36:41] program to our children.
[36:43] it is directed to the fourth-graders.
[36:45] these are just two.
[36:47] I've picked it up from the website. These are children
[36:51] who went to the program or the program is designed for
[36:56] fourth-graders to learn about the history of the bay
[37:00] and the ecosystem of the bay, how it works, how it
[37:05] functions, what are the main characteristics: what are
[37:09] some of the amazing creatures that are there that they
[37:13] didn't know about?
[37:14] what are some of the plant?
[37:17] there are five modules and they can go for free in
[37:22] school and before the pandemic students would go on a
[37:26] boat in the water.
[37:28] as soon we get over this pandemic bump which I am very
[37:33] positive we know that we have vaccinations that we will
[37:38] be over, our kids will go out in boats.
[37:42] they will be out there on the water learning about the
[37:47] bay.
[37:47] hopefully, we can get scholars to let some of the
[37:52] children at heart and residents to also do some adult
[37:56] programs as soon we can get back onto. And finally,
[38:00] recreation.
[38:01] the picture on the left is the sandbar that is just to
[38:06] the north. If you have ever walked along there at low
[38:11] tide you can see the sandbar that forms in the ocean.
[38:16] if you have a kayak you can paddle out there.
[38:20] it is an amazing variant.
[38:23] we want people to do all type of activities on the
[38:27] water and we want to increase these recreational
[38:31] activities as best as we can.
[38:34] this is the proposal that we bring to you.
[38:38] the idea of a north a village marine park I hope you
[38:43] like the idea.
[38:44] it is flexible and adapt to.
[38:47] we can really turn it into whatever we have the energy.
[38:52] presented this to committee services and they provided
[38:55] to suggestions, one is a glass bottom boat and the
[39:00] other one is artwork.
[39:02] they are thinking about the possibility of putting
[39:05] artwork underneath the water or in the water so you can
[39:10] go out there snorkeling or diving and see the artwork
[39:14] in the water.
[39:16] I think it is a fabulous idea and that is the idea that
[39:21] came from the advisory board.
[39:24] with that, it will be on your agenda whenever it it's
[39:29] the schedules. Starting in the new year. I didn't
[39:33] want the year to end without coming back without a
[39:37] proposal or ideas and I hope to make the dream of the
[39:42] possibilities and what we have to do next year to make
[39:47] this a reality.
[39:48] thank you.
[39:49] >>denise, thank you.
[39:51] a quick question.
[39:52] it's wonderful and it sounds interesting and unique.
[39:56] what is different from the concept of this park and
[40:00] north bay village anywhere else in this area?
[40:03] >> if are created this you wouldn't have no motorized
[40:08] vessels, fishing, whatever you wanted to stipulate.
[40:11] these types of exclusions for example is something you
[40:15] can still create within the park.
[40:18] so what is different is the rest of the bay is like our
[40:23] bay is now.
[40:25] there's nothing out there.
[40:26] there's nobody thinking about that or planning.
[40:30] there's nobody creating activities.
[40:31] we will make activities that's the difference.
[40:34] if we don't have this concept of the nbv park you have
[40:40] exactly what you have right now which is a lot more
[40:45] open space and empty water and dying.
[40:48] ask if I can add to the chairs comments, this marine
[40:53] part can be thought of as a branding tool, right? We
[40:57] are essentially opening up our offshore waters to
[41:01] innovators and scientists who want to come to us with
[41:05] project ideas and part of this marine park idea, there
[41:10] will be essentially a board or a committee who
[41:14] evaluates projects proposals and their funding
[41:17] mechanisms and so on and so forth to make
[41:21] recommendations to us.
[41:22] as opposed to what we were looking at before which is a
[41:27] delineated area, we are now saying we don't want to
[41:32] focus on projects in that one particular area, we want
[41:36] to tell everyone.
[41:37] we been using this term living laboratory for years
[41:41] now.
[41:42] this is a brand that really encapsulates living
[41:45] laboratory. It is not in conflict of our other
[41:49] branding effort. I think the north bay village as a
[41:54] marine park is a great way to package what will
[41:58] probably be a future grant and project application.
[42:02] >> yeah.
[42:03] I agree.
[42:03] what I'm trying to get ed and this is going to
[42:08] potentially reduce some things but I really want to
[42:12] wrap my mind around what we can do to make it. I
[42:18] understand the concept of making a marine park.
[42:21] I want to understand what we can do to make sure that
[42:26] it becomes a unique thing.
[42:29] apart from a place like key biscayne where they can do
[42:34] research or do kayaking.
[42:35] >> they cannot do research pay they can do kayaking but
[42:40] no, research they cannot do.
[42:42] is no facility unless you are part of the university of
[42:47] miami and they're not even in biscayne.
[42:50] so, this is unique.
[42:52] the scientific pillar is the one that is really unique.
[42:57] it doesn't exist elsewhere and we would be pioneers.
[43:01] education and recreation yes you can do that anywhere
[43:05] but who is doing it?
[43:07] which venous polity is out there pushing these issues?
[43:11] which minister polity is investing in this park to have
[43:15] kayaks?
[43:16] the others that are doing it, there's a big fight about
[43:20] the kayak launch space.
[43:22] >> there always will be.
[43:24] >> other than the scientific and of course the
[43:28] scientific is the most important. It is the most
[43:32] unique and the most important.
[43:35] you could say educational is an add-on, but it is super
[43:39] important.
[43:40] going to have our children learning about the bay.
[43:44] we didn't have this concept we would never have done
[43:48] this.
[43:49] I would've never contacted the scholar scholars and we
[43:53] would not have any discussion with them.
[43:56] we went over to the school because of this marine park.
[44:01] >> so creating a marine park you eventually create one
[44:05] of the critical mass of rain oriented activities in one
[44:10] place and builds off each other and create efficiencies
[44:14] and moves science forward in terms of preserving or
[44:18] resuscitating the bay?
[44:19] >> also as a branding mechanism, you will be there,
[44:23] won't you?
[44:24] >> I will be there in a few minutes.
[44:28] >> if we are the heart of the bay, what do we doend
[44:34] it's going to be more than just a slogan it will be
[44:39] embodied in this.
[44:41] >> I don't see this as a unique project.
[44:45] see this as starting a project that hopefully all other
[44:49] municipalities on the water would like to imitate or
[44:53] emulate.
[44:53] were going to be the leaders on this project and I
[44:58] certainly hope for the communities to jump on board but
[45:03] we have to start by creating everything with
[45:06] sustainability during the year and the plan.
[45:09] I don't expect unique.
[45:11] uniqueness might be the plan of the cep in the
[45:16] underwater sculptures that might be down there. That
[45:19] becomes a reality.
[45:20] it's an outrageous idea but you have to make that
[45:25] reality.
[45:25] there is uniqueness in the programs that we are going
[45:30] to create or try to create at this park.
[45:34] but, I am certainly hoping and I think that is the idea
[45:39] behind this is to be emulated and copied by any other
[45:44] coastal community and we are saving our bay.
[45:47] because, the little piece of bay around north bay
[45:51] village alone will save the bay.
[45:54] >> we might be able to savehave the technology to save
[45:59] other bays. We are hoping scientist to implement it.
[46:03] let me give you another outrageous idea. I want to do
[46:08] a snorkel trail.
[46:09] underwater assignedwhat the different plants are or
[46:12] ecosystems are and create a trail that is underwater.
[46:16] yet to put on a mask and be able to snorkel and go over
[46:22] there swimming and you will be on an underwater museum
[46:27] learning about the bay and it would be integrated into
[46:31] the scholars program and the children would be out
[46:35] there with their masks and snorkels on looking in the
[46:40] water.
[46:40] it is dreamy. But if you create the concept and if you
[46:45] back it and you believe in it, you have to believe in
[46:51] it.
[46:51] then, we can really have things happening and I will
[46:56] come back to you as soon as you have decided if you
[47:01] want to go ahead with this with the first one-year plan
[47:06] with what our milestones are, our objectives are and
[47:10] this educational program we wanted to be in the spring,
[47:14] summer and fall. We are hoping to take it onto the
[47:19] boat. So, we have a bit of a difference but first we
[47:24] have to hear from you if you like this idea.
[47:29] and it can be on your agenda.
[47:32] >> thank you, denise.
[47:34] >> I said this to the sustainability and resilience
[47:38] task force when denise presented this to us.
[47:41] the swimming, we are going to keep talking about the
[47:46] snorkel trail because it is so important to keep the
[47:50] dream alive that we will be able to encourage swimming
[47:54] in the bay.
[47:56] the reality right now is that really, I dove into the
[48:01] bay about six months ago.
[48:03] I have done it but it's not advisable.
[48:06] right?
[48:07] the legislature is considering requiring local
[48:09] government with water recreation access areas to test
[48:13] for fecal matter and bacteria you lily and to post
[48:17] alerts in those areas. Again, this is a legislative
[48:21] proposal and it may or may not pass during the
[48:26] legislative session but given what we know about the
[48:30] effluent from the canals into our immediate offshore
[48:33] waters the snorkel trail is not going to be our first
[48:38] priority.
[48:39] we have a lot of work to do with our neighboring
[48:44] disabilities in miami-dade county's with sewer
[48:46] conversion for we can move forward on the snorkeling.
[48:50] >> we don't have to wait for legislation to pass to
[48:55] start testing our water.
[48:57] the scientific pillar is going to be to work at fiu
[49:02] they are the water keepers could we would be able to
[49:07] say okay, we have a marine park and we are going to do
[49:12] as a university ask you to come and test the water. So
[49:18] they would be able to see is the water getting worse?
[49:23] is it getting better?
[49:24] don't have to wait for legislation, we want to do that
[49:29] on our own because we have a marine park and that's why
[49:34] we want to do it.
[49:37] we want to know what is happening to our water.
[49:41] >> bravo madam chair.
[49:43] thank you.
[49:44] >> it is 8:00 and we are on the committee part of the
[49:50] meeting so let's go ahead and bring helen and nick up
[49:54] from the heart of the bay task force we can have our
[50:00] branding presentation and work on this since we already
[50:04] have the open forum so we can move forward.
[50:08] >> can I make any comments about the previous speaker?
[50:12] >> I amnick quay and I'm the chair of the heart of the
[50:18] bay committee.
[50:19] this sounds wonderful.
[50:20] if everyone backs it and makes it take lace it forces
[50:25] people to listen.
[50:26] I think the opportunity there is that it forces people
[50:31] to listen to another municipality who's doing something
[50:34] cutting-edge.
[50:35] the scientific part the reporting part becomes public.
[50:38] sometimes it's difficult to find information on the
[50:42] water as a paddle border and a swimmer I would love to
[50:47] swim in the bay but I know better.
[50:51] the thing is it's hard to get that information doing
[50:55] something that the city backs doing an official part of
[50:59] the village is significant because you're going to have
[51:03] other people who want to do research. As richard said,
[51:08] other people want a copy and emulate the things that we
[51:13] are doing.
[51:14] the more conversations we can have showing them why
[51:18] it's unique and why it's going to help us all going to
[51:23] force the state or other people to get our neighbors to
[51:28] get their act together.
[51:30] a lot of the pollution doesn't come from us. There's
[51:34] fecal matter and sewage breaks constantly.
[51:37] money can come from a much higher level if things are
[51:42] done locally and it takes a group like us like north
[51:46] bay village to stand up and be the leader and do
[51:51] something unique and show everyone else it's possible.
[51:55] I love it, thank you. I know much work she's put on it
[52:01] because I was on the board with her that first year
[52:05] it's an amazing project and I think everyone should be
[52:10] backing it.
[52:11] >> thank you, nick. Let me appreciate thatand
[52:14] introduce you as the chair of the part of the bay task
[52:20] force.
[52:20] and then helen our staff liaison on the task force and
[52:25] this is a task force which I have led or help lead or
[52:31] co-lead with residents. If you remember a year ago in
[52:35] november or december I said let's put together a task
[52:40] force to work on rebranding the village or giving the
[52:44] village a brand.
[52:45] the village, going back in time even to present we have
[52:50] not had a brand. We've had a logo and a series of
[52:55] logos and a name and at times a slogan but not a brand
[53:01] per se.
[53:02] part of the results of that and also the answer to the
[53:07] question I have been asked, why rebrand or work on a
[53:12] rebrand for north bay village and that's to very
[53:16] clearly establish a sense of identity in place that we
[53:21] deserve, had, had had in the past and are building
[53:25] again through our work, things like resiliency, through
[53:29] things like master planning through things like forward
[53:32] thinking initiatives.
[53:33] and so, after two years and three as mayor seems like
[53:38] the time is right to create that sense of identity.
[53:42] the first step in creating that is to work on what is
[53:48] essentially a brand guide.
[53:49] we started to work on that over the last year along
[53:54] with the heart of the bay task force with a lot of
[54:00] leadership from helen.
[54:01] we put in on of work on this on above and beyond and
[54:07] certainly not in her job description but much
[54:10] appreciated.
[54:11] we have also worked with a company m style who is on
[54:16] the line now to create what you have in front of you
[54:21] today which is a rand guide which is really the first
[54:26] step in the rebrand of north bay village which will
[54:31] take steps to implement the brand which we have
[54:35] established it.
[54:35] here we are at a major step which is having a brand
[54:41] guide to give feedback on and potentially approve and
[54:45] move forward with this process to properly brand the
[54:49] village and move forward in establishing that sense of
[54:53] place and identity nick?
[54:55] >> thank you mayor, commissioners, staff and all the
[54:58] public at home. This is a project we started over a
[55:03] year ago at this been a lot of meetings and energy from
[55:09] the staff.
[55:10] we created a heart of the bay task force. We met
[55:14] throughout the year in different places. There was a
[55:18] community leader survey where all the commissioners
[55:22] received as well as a little bit of the public which
[55:26] you guys did a year ago as well and they ask questions
[55:32] like what do you identify with?
[55:34] what kind of color, animal, sound?
[55:37] what makes you think of north bay village?
[55:41] we started off at that and then came up with a plan and
[55:46] really got the public engaged.
[55:49] we had over tuna people get engaged including staff,
[55:52] commissioners, consultants as well.
[55:54] in a very large cumulative projects.
[55:57] the good news is, what I'm about to show you, 85
[56:02] percent of everybody surveyed loves where it is right
[56:06] now.
[56:06] we did all of the input with the diverse respondents
[56:11] from kids, seniors and farmers market. We have boots
[56:15] everywhere every single step of the way there was 20
[56:19] different innovations of the logo. It's a lot. I like
[56:23] the first one.
[56:25] but it's a process. Digital outreach, email blasts,
[56:28] youtube, the website social media the inspirations, the
[56:32] biggest thing that people mentioned when nick says what
[56:36] inspires you to live in north bay village mac what you
[56:41] love about north bay village. It was like a sunset.
[56:45] the historic architectural vibe, the community at
[56:48] large, the dolphins, water.
[56:50] a lot of people like the new art. There's some new
[56:55] public art installations that we been seeing for the
[56:59] last year or so.
[57:01] everybody loved it.
[57:02] these are the main components that really inspire.
[57:06] personality trait. When everybody was poled, all the
[57:09] participants, the main one was fresh, progressive and
[57:13] friendly.
[57:13] north bay village has always been that to me. I have
[57:18] been a resident for the last several years and I
[57:22] believe it is a very diverse place.
[57:25] the much diversity we have as many types of people as
[57:30] the dots on my shirt and that's what we try to embody
[57:36] on the logo.
[57:37] the mission statement and the pillars the mission
[57:40] statement remains the same to serve our diverse
[57:44] community preserving our natural resources stimulating
[57:47] economic activity and enhancing the quality of life for
[57:51] present and future generations the pillars stay the
[57:54] same it's about livability, zillions and prosperity.
[57:57] he much everything that the boards have been working on
[58:02] for the last couple of years we try to embody all of
[58:07] that and bring voice to it.
[58:10] the new brand icon is the north bay village dolphin.
[58:14] the dolphin the inspiration for it comes from community
[58:18] art. It is a stylized often and it represents the
[58:23] fragility of the local environment and marine life it
[58:27] also represents the health of biscayne bay. The
[58:30] official village slogan would be north bay village,
[58:34] heart of the bay.
[58:35] and there we go. This is what the logo looks like.
[58:40] all the things that inspired everyone that took the
[58:44] questionnaires, surveys and gave us feedback was an
[58:48] corporative in this.
[58:49] the roots of the palm tree goes clockwise as the tree
[58:54] grows larger signifying our commitment to the
[58:57] resiliency of north bay village.
[58:59] >> all hop in. This logo is meant to be used for all
[59:05] marketing and promotionalmaterials. We will get into
[59:08] the difference between how the logo is used and how the
[59:13] seal is used.
[59:14] >> the updated village seal, >> I will speak on this
[59:19] one pay the seal should be used for alllong-term
[59:23] village sanctions and activations and also government
[59:26] documents. It follows best practices that other
[59:29] municipalities use as well.
[59:31] the a lot of municipalities we don't use the seal for
[59:36] everything but they will use a logo and that the idea
[59:41] that we are trying to follow.
[59:44] >> the police badge, there's a couple of different
[59:48] versions.
[59:48] if they are in a chipper exciting mood they could use
[59:53] the color that matches the logo pick the one they
[59:57] currently have on the badge is the florida seal, the
[1:00:02] florida lease seal.
[1:00:03] there's an opportunity to have continuity and flow so
[1:00:07] it will all match.
[1:00:09] a lot of the offices prefer the more subdued one that
[1:00:14] matches the uniform blue and gray.
[1:00:16] I think it is a personal preference is like whatever
[1:00:21] shoes you are going to wear for the day.
[1:00:25] for the north a village anniversary this is a
[1:00:29] throwback.
[1:00:29] this is an old seal from a long time ago from the
[1:00:34] 1940s.
[1:00:35] we thought it would be a cool idea to bring it back.
[1:00:40] a lot of people like throwback thursday, culture and
[1:00:44] history and want to know why they're still here.
[1:00:48] we've a couple of residents who been here since the
[1:00:53] 40s.
[1:00:53] and in the logo for the advisory board.
[1:00:57] there are different parts of the logo and different
[1:01:01] things that can be used for different reasons.
[1:01:04] this is an easy way to show off what were doing as a
[1:01:10] village and as a municipality to give some pride to
[1:01:14] each of the boards. The logo would remain the same
[1:01:19] bottom name changes based on the name of the board
[1:01:23] peered the branding elements like I mentioned before
[1:01:27] all the photos and things that spoke people it was
[1:01:31] about the wave, the dolphins the sunset and the
[1:01:35] sunrise.
[1:01:36] these are the different colors that we put into
[1:01:40] bringing you today's logo.
[1:01:41] feedback results.
[1:01:42] look I said we have 200 active participants plus the
[1:01:47] commission village staff advisory board members on
[1:01:50] several boards.
[1:01:51] residents and consultants.
[1:01:52] as I mentioned a while ago 86 percent strongly agreed
[1:01:56] with the new logo. The only thing that had a little
[1:02:01] bit of contention, it's still a clear win the slogan
[1:02:06] the heart of the bay is 40 points above everybody else
[1:02:10] and I would say that's pretty good. It is double the
[1:02:15] following almost triple the other two.
[1:02:18] I think that is something that we can handle later but
[1:02:23] as a curiosity with a show of hands, this doesn't count
[1:02:28] for anything so people in the room do you feel like
[1:02:33] this hits 80 percent of what you think north a village
[1:02:38] should be represented by?
[1:02:39] okay, because of?
[1:02:41] >> colors.
[1:02:41] >>okay?
[1:02:42] >> the fact that it looks like a dolphin in a net.
[1:02:47] >> that's a good point.
[1:02:49] >> I think the dolphin represents solid.
[1:02:53] >> my microphone was off.
[1:02:55] >> the rest of it and the segmented dolphin?
[1:02:59] >> you're talking about the slogan, I like the island
[1:03:03] paradise.
[1:03:04] >> all of that is doable.
[1:03:06] it feedback from the community that echoed that as
[1:03:10] well.
[1:03:11] 86 percent of the pole agreed with it. The segmented
[1:03:15] dockdolphin are something that is easy to fix peered
[1:03:19] that can be easily filled in and slogans are easy to
[1:03:24] mess with.
[1:03:25] >> the other thing takes me into a little bit of
[1:03:30] question, in a community of 8300 people only 200 have
[1:03:34] participated?
[1:03:35] you take into consideration the staff and condition
[1:03:38] give a good 8200 people right there.
[1:03:41] >> were talking about participants above and beyond the
[1:03:45] commission peered that separate. We had 200 from the
[1:03:49] public and then we had on top of that we had another 60
[1:03:55] more including.
[1:03:56] >> that is point 025 percent.
[1:03:59] >> we should have called the commission to help make
[1:04:03] phone calls with us to be called as many people as we
[1:04:08] could to give us feedback peered we had people come out
[1:04:13] to all of the events.
[1:04:15] >> java townhall in a meeting?
[1:04:18] but yes, we did that over the year and we can provide a
[1:04:24] list.
[1:04:24] >> let's go ahead and go over the public opportunities
[1:04:29] for feedback.
[1:04:29] I would imagine thousands of people were touched.
[1:04:33] it would be short of mailing out a survey basically two
[1:04:38] people. I think a lot of efforts were made why don't
[1:04:43] you go over those.
[1:04:45] >> throughout the year the heart of the bay taskworse
[1:04:49] had the opportunity for residents to display in and
[1:04:53] many residents go out to those meetings. In addition
[1:04:57] to that tried to hit diverse events, hitting diverse
[1:05:01] opportunities for different people to respond.
[1:05:04] at national night out had around 500 people there.
[1:05:08] that night we had about 50 come to our booth and
[1:05:12] discussed the brand. We made ample opportunities at
[1:05:16] the farmers market at one of our last concerts of the
[1:05:21] year. We also made sure that this was opened digitally
[1:05:25] so that people can respond to the brands online.
[1:05:29] we did do our parts and trying to make this process
[1:05:34] where the public could engage and provide feedback.
[1:05:38] >> one more thing to think of when you ask for
[1:05:43] engagement and something a lot of people we spoke to
[1:05:47] said 11, I like it and some people don't care if it
[1:05:52] changes or not good other people sent love you doing
[1:05:57] keep on doing it but they didn't want to take the 10 to
[1:06:02] 15 minutes to sit down and answer questions and
[1:06:06] respond.
[1:06:07] to say a couple hundred people not including staff
[1:06:11] members actually took the time to engage and sit down
[1:06:15] and have these longer discussions, I think that is
[1:06:19] pretty good.
[1:06:20] a lot of people I spoke to did not want to do it. They
[1:06:26] just said we love it.
[1:06:29] that's kind of what it was.
[1:06:31] if you count everybody that was touched it would be
[1:06:36] significantly more than 200.
[1:06:37] it's that 200 cared enough for wanted to spend the time
[1:06:42] and gave the village time enough to sit down and give
[1:06:47] us hard feedback.
[1:06:48] those are the numbers we had peered we didn't count
[1:06:53] every person we spoke to.
[1:06:55] >> I also want to point out that we did think about
[1:07:00] having a specific townhall for branding. Instead we
[1:07:04] pivoted and decided that attendance at other town halls
[1:07:08] are not very high.
[1:07:10] probably get more feedback we met her dispense where
[1:07:14] they're already going to village events. That was a
[1:07:18] strategy we decided to use instead.
[1:07:20] >> I think that's the right strategy. If you look at
[1:07:25] the stormwater mastertownhall we had zero residents
[1:07:28] attending.
[1:07:29] does that we don't move forward or have support from
[1:07:33] stormwater master plan?
[1:07:35] not at all.
[1:07:36] 200 per dispense north bay village is a record number
[1:07:40] of participants in terms of feedback.
[1:07:43] if we set the bar at 50 percent of our residents to
[1:07:48] give feedback were simply never going to accomplish
[1:07:52] that.
[1:07:52] >> I do want to open the floor up for any questions or
[1:07:58] answers but before that our consultant, rob, on the
[1:08:02] line and if you like to share a few words, please feel
[1:08:07] free.
[1:08:08] we are an muting you, shortly.
[1:08:10] you have to accept to be in muted.
[1:08:14] >> is a fantastic thing that we are a brand team and
[1:08:19] not a tech.
[1:08:21] I want to thank everybody the team that worked on this,
[1:08:25] the mayor as well. We have the honor of being able to
[1:08:31] work on programs such as this and whether it's the
[1:08:35] national park centennial our firm had the opportunity
[1:08:39] to rebrand the san antonio riverwalk.
[1:08:41] we had worked for groups such as the nfl and nhl and
[1:08:47] some of the world's top global brands.
[1:08:50] we've gone through this process with multiple federal
[1:08:53] state municipalities and I think by far you should all
[1:08:58] appreciate from an office standpoint I think this was
[1:09:02] probably the most efficient, well-run brand process
[1:09:05] I've ever seen in a government agency.
[1:09:08] I commend you guys for being able to get through the
[1:09:13] process and we got really concise feedback from the
[1:09:17] community.
[1:09:17] for us it was truly an honor to be able to work with
[1:09:23] everybody on this as well.
[1:09:25] >> thank you, rob.
[1:09:27] >> I do want to point out that high 80s acceptance of
[1:09:32] things is very high.
[1:09:34] you are never going to get in a project like this 100
[1:09:39] percent agreement or one hundred percent acceptance
[1:09:42] from anyone on anything. There are elements of the
[1:09:46] brand that I don't care for and appointed out along the
[1:09:51] way it's part of the process.
[1:09:54] it has been a process to determine what other the
[1:09:58] representatives of north they village according to the
[1:10:02] members who have participated in the process? We can't
[1:10:06] put guns to people's heads and make them come out and
[1:10:11] participate but a lot of people did. We have feedback
[1:10:15] in terms of colors, in terms of the feel, in terms of
[1:10:21] all of that to build towards the logo that we have.
[1:10:25] maybe it would be helpful if you went through a little
[1:10:30] bit, for example, what the process was to build the
[1:10:35] logo? It's not just something that people went in and
[1:10:39] rendered a little bit and said how do you likethis?
[1:10:44] how did it work?
[1:10:45] >> rob can definitely add to this but we saw so many
[1:10:51] versions of the logo throughout this process.
[1:10:54] what we started seeing in january, february, it is
[1:10:58] nothing compared to where we are right now. I
[1:11:02] misspoke. In april when we started looking at this.
[1:11:06] easily, think we went back and forth 20 times or so.
[1:11:11] >> I think that might be an understatement.
[1:11:14] the brand program that exists right now is really
[1:11:18] indeed a process.
[1:11:19] it came through a labor of that process with real
[1:11:24] feedback along the way.
[1:11:26] he started with a fair amount of research and develop a
[1:11:30] real strategy in conjunction with the village about
[1:11:34] what is the brand supposed to be and what does it
[1:11:39] represent walt making sure we keep a true holistic feel
[1:11:43] to the community.
[1:11:45] and then throughout the way and throughout the process
[1:11:49] making sure we incorporates all the feedback we
[1:11:52] received and all the opinions we received as well as
[1:11:57] making sure that the creative side of this is what the
[1:12:01] program brand is supposed to achieve.
[1:12:04] >> the one thing to keep in mind it's not like anybody
[1:12:09] sat down and said this is what we want on the logo,
[1:12:15] this is an accumulative of months and months and months
[1:12:19] and I can't tell you how many hours.
[1:12:23] this is about feedback and getting feedback appeared if
[1:12:27] it was the mayor or her it would've come out different.
[1:12:32] the whole purpose was to do what the community was
[1:12:36] asking.
[1:12:36] what the people were asking for and what they felt
[1:12:41] represented the village this is it.
[1:12:43] if I like it 100 percent does not matter.
[1:12:47] the people spoke, the community spoke and like she
[1:12:51] said, we were aware that holding a town hall with zero
[1:12:56] people there does not work.
[1:12:59] 10 percent of participants came to talk about the logo
[1:13:03] and to me that is massive.
[1:13:06] I never go to events that have that it's like when you
[1:13:11] have a conversation about what you want to do with the
[1:13:16] road?
[1:13:16] you're going to be torn down the middle. The fact that
[1:13:21] we have high 80s and an acceptance whether it's my
[1:13:26] version or not the people spoke.
[1:13:28] the community spoke.
[1:13:30] the survey did its job and with rob and everybody they
[1:13:34] kept us in line with how do you really do this?
[1:13:39] it's not what do you want to do the five or six people
[1:13:45] who came to the meeting that was part of it in the
[1:13:50] beginning then it switched.
[1:13:52] this does not look like any of our four or five
[1:13:57] iterations. It came from the community and the people
[1:14:01] in the feedback.
[1:14:02] that's the one thing to keep in mind. The exercise is
[1:14:07] that it is why are we here, what we doing this for?
[1:14:12] what do you guys do this for mac to serve the people
[1:14:18] and take what their needs and wants are and then we can
[1:14:23] do that at a government level.
[1:14:26] >> I appreciate from an eco-standpoint getting to hear
[1:14:30] my name.
[1:14:31] but we are 18+ designers working on this, award-winning
[1:14:35] designers that are paired with a strategy and research
[1:14:39] team.
[1:14:39] indeed this is not a creative process alone.
[1:14:43] it is a full strategyresearch process that gets infused
[1:14:47] by all of the creative community comments along the
[1:14:51] way.
[1:14:51] to everyone's credit at the meeting we have been
[1:14:55] involved in several of these programs especially at the
[1:14:59] government level. The pathway and process and
[1:15:02] exclusivity that is been in this program has been
[1:15:06] amazing to us.
[1:15:07] we seen this managed where they get very sidetracked as
[1:15:12] well.
[1:15:12] I think everyone so far has been very pleased with the
[1:15:17] result.
[1:15:18] >> I will jump in and say that I love it.
[1:15:22] I really love it.
[1:15:24] I think the colors are modern and fresh and I think
[1:15:29] they elicit that positive, friendly vibe that we are
[1:15:33] going for and the survey elicited those top three
[1:15:37] things that are resident think of when they think of
[1:15:41] north bay village.
[1:15:43] I think having the logo and the seal is a great idea.
[1:15:48] I think the fact that the dolphin is fractured with the
[1:15:53] fragility of the marine life is very poignant.
[1:15:56] unfortunately, I disagree with commissioner richard
[1:15:59] chervony I think it's important and it does match the
[1:16:04] existing brand that we do have if we do have any
[1:16:08] existing branding.
[1:16:09] you guys did a great job and I specifically want to
[1:16:14] commend you on the process.
[1:16:16] I have seen on helen's desk a stack of forms that
[1:16:21] people took the time to fill out.
[1:16:24] the quantitative data that you collected and went
[1:16:28] through, that comes from our resident has been
[1:16:31] wonderful in the social media campaign has been very
[1:16:35] fantastic.
[1:16:36] doing this digitally opposed to a town hall we had a
[1:16:41] town hall tonight with the single infrastructure facing
[1:16:44] our community and one person came.
[1:16:47] don't think it's honest for us to say you should have
[1:16:52] done a town hall.
[1:16:54] because we know from experience that there are a
[1:16:58] handful of people who might come to a town hall.
[1:17:02] I applaud you for reaching residents in a way that you
[1:17:07] did.
[1:17:07] bravo.
[1:17:08] I fully support the results of this process.
[1:17:11] >> let me say some thing about this stylized dolphin.
[1:17:16] it is remarkable in the sense that certainly not
[1:17:20] everybody loves it. Others do like it and from a
[1:17:24] branding point of view what you want is unique and
[1:17:29] remarkable.
[1:17:29] he pulled don't necessarily want to love something but
[1:17:33] they have to see it.
[1:17:35] the fact that it does represent the fact that we are at
[1:17:40] the heart of a fracturing marine environment that is
[1:17:44] falling apart around us, things that are precious to
[1:17:48] us, marine life, a dolphin that we see swimming every
[1:17:53] day and our role as a city and preserving that and
[1:17:58] holding it together, that icon tells the story of north
[1:18:02] bay village without saying a word.
[1:18:05] you can love it or not love it and there are things to
[1:18:11] love.
[1:18:11] who loves the fact that our marine environment is
[1:18:15] falling apart?
[1:18:16] who loves the fact that we have to work so hard to keep
[1:18:22] it together: what I do love about that icon is tells
[1:18:27] that story. It is a story of north bay village 2021
[1:18:31] and I like it.
[1:18:33] >> you know I love it. I love the colors, I am a huge
[1:18:39] fan.
[1:18:40] also even whether this was intentional or not, I know
[1:18:44] that there is a similar logo so it already fits in with
[1:18:50] some of the initiatives that are going on here in the
[1:18:54] village.
[1:18:55] and like they said it's vibrant, modern and I think
[1:18:59] that is what it has been missing.
[1:19:02] this commission is representing a new day in the
[1:19:06] village and I think this logo and this brand quantifies
[1:19:11] that very clearly.
[1:19:12] great work!
[1:19:13] >> let me say one more thing that is important.
[1:19:17] rob, how much does it normally cost to develop a
[1:19:22] branding guide to this extent?
[1:19:24] >> to say that this was discounted for the village I
[1:19:29] guess would be a tacky understatement.
[1:19:32] we normally don't start a brand program for usually
[1:19:36] under 70 or $80,000 as a starting point.
[1:19:39] >> you looked into sunny isle beach just did a site
[1:19:44] delay similar exercise how much was it for them?
[1:19:48] >> 80,000.
[1:19:49] >> helen, how much are we spending on this you met.
[1:19:54] >> 5000.
[1:19:55] >> what?
[1:19:55] >> thank you rob!
[1:19:57] [laughter]
[1:19:58] >> thank you, rob!
[1:19:59] >> it sounds terrible!
[1:20:01] >> it's our pleasure. I may ask for a round of drinks
[1:20:07] when I get down there.
[1:20:09] some of this is, when I say it's an honor, for someone
[1:20:14] who comes down to that area often whose business
[1:20:18] partners, who are at the restaurants and bars at north
[1:20:22] bay village, it is a pleasure to work with really
[1:20:27] fantastic people on this and that made the process that
[1:20:31] much easier.
[1:20:32] we consider ourselves to be an award-winning team for
[1:20:36] what we do and if you guys have an award-winning team
[1:20:41] and staff peered therefore, we are happy to work on it
[1:20:46] and we are happy to be part of the process.
[1:20:50] >> thank you rob and the other person aside from
[1:20:55] obviously the heart of the bay task force and citizens
[1:20:59] that work hard on this is helen.
[1:21:02] I have now dubbed her the director of marketing and
[1:21:07] communications because it is a new feather in your cap.
[1:21:11] wrinkly, you have helped save us somewhere in the range
[1:21:16] of $50-$70,000 through your work on this project and it
[1:21:20] is completely measurable and identifiable and I am
[1:21:24] appreciative of the work you've done.
[1:21:26] it is above and beyond your job description and will
[1:21:31] help you professionally but more than you thought you'd
[1:21:35] be asked to do and you took this job a year or less
[1:21:40] than a year ago.
[1:21:42] thank you for your hard work and we could not have done
[1:21:47] this without you, without rob and the heart of the bay
[1:21:52] task force.
[1:21:53] >> I will add mayor, having worked with a lot of
[1:21:58] different groups and agencies at front levels I would
[1:22:02] say helen was an agency of one in this regard and
[1:22:07] managed the brand process and it was really impressive
[1:22:11] and it was our pleasure to work with you.
[1:22:15] >> ditto.
[1:22:16] >> rob did not try to steal her from us!
[1:22:20] [laughter]
[1:22:21] >> I can't make promises.
[1:22:23] >>fantastic.
[1:22:23] I'm happy to take more feedback or comments.
[1:22:27] again, I do understand it is not 100 percent
[1:22:31] satisfactory to everyone.
[1:22:32] it would be very strange for everyone to like every
[1:22:37] single element.
[1:22:37] or anyone to love every single element out of the range
[1:22:42] we have here.
[1:22:44] >> we are dressedalike tonight and everything!
[1:22:47] metro comes back!
[1:22:48] the bellbottoms go away!
[1:22:50] >> hello, I have two words.
[1:22:53] >> art deco is not making a comeback!
[1:22:56] >> I think the miami heat would beg to differ.
[1:23:01] >> here is the reality of it. If you google the top
[1:23:06] trending colors nationally, not this year but everyone
[1:23:09] is calling us modern.
[1:23:11] so, I was born in 1980 but I still remember these
[1:23:16] things and I remember the colors.
[1:23:19] >> the old-timers such as myself and that is why I am
[1:23:24] here to represent the old-timers. I'm the only one
[1:23:28] this is a young commission and I am the oldest one. He
[1:23:33] reminds me of art deco.
[1:23:35] that is what I am used to seeing.
[1:23:39] >> a lot of the architecture around herereminds us of
[1:23:43] that.
[1:23:44] >> all of the architecture that is left-
[1:23:48] >> were going to have to call kobe carpenter and have
[1:23:53] them bring it back.
[1:23:55] >> all right. We are getting off topic we have a long
[1:24:00] agenda. Can we have a motion?
[1:24:03] >> if you need a motion to approve I am making that
[1:24:08] motion.
[1:24:08] >> I will second that.
[1:24:10] >> of emotion and a second.
[1:24:13] >> also,please specify which logo you would like to
[1:24:17] adopt.
[1:24:18] >> I can go back if you want.
[1:24:21] >> the motion is to approve the heart of the bay is the
[1:24:27] slogan.
[1:24:27] >> I will second that.
[1:24:29] >> I think that is a package.
[1:24:33] with the heart of the bay let's talk about that. It's
[1:24:37] unique in the beginning but we really did, almost for
[1:24:42] that reason make a best effort to find something else.
[1:24:46] we went above and beyond to try to find something that
[1:24:51] was more appropriate and we did not find it.
[1:24:55] >> I will just say, I was on team three island paradise
[1:25:00] at the beginning but I had lunch with horatio and he
[1:25:05] told me where it came from and it reframes everything
[1:25:10] to me. When I was introducing myself at the first
[1:25:14] meeting of the water management board on monday to be
[1:25:19] able to say I represent north a village and we are in
[1:25:24] the heart of the bay it just rolled off the tongue.
[1:25:29] the motion for is for the heart of the bay and to
[1:25:34] approve the final result.
[1:25:36] thank you.
[1:25:37] >> seconds.
[1:25:38] >> okay let's vote.
[1:25:39] >> commissioner rachel streitfeld?
[1:25:41] vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[1:25:43] commissioner richard chervony?
[1:25:44] commissioner julianna strout? Mayor brent latham.
[1:25:47] the motion carries.
[1:25:48] >> thank you all for your time and everybody who has
[1:25:53] been helping out with this and thank you.
[1:25:57] >> a footnote to the heart of the bay task force
[1:26:02] because the task of the heart of the bay is to rebrand
[1:26:07] the village I feel like we are at that halfway point.
[1:26:12] we have work to do on the implementation of the brand
[1:26:17] and their is some specific things that need to be
[1:26:21] discussed and agreed upon in the health of the task
[1:26:25] force will be integral in that.
[1:26:28] think this project continues for another 6 to 12 months
[1:26:33] in terms of the implementation of the brand and we
[1:26:37] decide who will be or how the brand will be sorted from
[1:26:42] there on but there's some heavy lifting going on on and
[1:26:47] the members that are present and active and we are now
[1:26:52] at a point we can spend recruiting new members where a
[1:26:57] couple dropped off and my thinking is that we will
[1:27:01] bring in some new members that will be energized by
[1:27:06] this process here the hard work has been done.
[1:27:10] as part of the exciting work of implementing the brand
[1:27:14] and I think we can do that and the task force does its
[1:27:20] work over the next 6 to 12 months and we can look at
[1:27:26] who stores the brand from this point forward.
[1:27:29] fantastic. Thank you. Thank you nick and helen.
[1:27:33] that is 14 b5 and we will jump back. We have not had
[1:27:38] the reports appeared we will have the commission
[1:27:42] reports. Who would like to begin? Any volunteers?
[1:27:46] vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[1:27:47] >> good evening everyone and happy holidays.
[1:27:50] >> happy holidays.
[1:27:52] >> thank you.
[1:27:53] a lot is happened since november and we will build up
[1:27:58] to what I think is one of the most exciting parts of
[1:28:03] the city but the park continues to go well and we had
[1:28:09] questions around potentially expanding it so thank you
[1:28:12] to all of those that do and attend yoga in the park
[1:28:17] it's great to see you in the morning and there was good
[1:28:23] attendance as well for the attendance of the day.
[1:28:27] miami-dade started that event.
[1:28:29] it is great. Were going to have a conversation around
[1:28:33] an ordinance as to the housing ordinance and I will
[1:28:37] speak more on that as we get to that item.
[1:28:42] we are working on a new event. Helen just left but we
[1:28:47] are working on a new event called the stroller derby.
[1:28:52] we have a lot of young and new families on the island
[1:28:57] which I am one of them and every morning I see a lot of
[1:29:03] folks walking throughout the city and they are always
[1:29:07] asking about things to do for their kids.
[1:29:11] were going to have a wellness event that will also
[1:29:15] incorporates some sort of food service and share the
[1:29:19] details over the next couple of weeks.
[1:29:22] that's january 22nd.
[1:29:23] and, then again, north bay village has led the way in
[1:29:28] working together to pass legislation.
[1:29:30] anyone who has been part of the cleanups often times
[1:29:35] you can see the number and the amount of single use
[1:29:40] plastics that are out there that we pick up. I think
[1:29:45] the commissioner is addressing this from the creation
[1:29:48] angle and we are also trying to do that from a business
[1:29:53] perspective.
[1:29:54] we kicked off the initial trial of that last year with
[1:29:59] the help of lame beach. This year eileen higgins
[1:30:03] sponsored the item 305 and that has been adopted where
[1:30:07] advice will be passed to businesses in miami-dade
[1:30:11] county where we can find alternatives to single use
[1:30:15] plastics.
[1:30:15] I know some of the things we are working on here, we
[1:30:21] are very busy on projects and handling things that we
[1:30:25] can handle as a city internally but there's a lot of
[1:30:30] things plastic being one of them that we can do to
[1:30:35] protect the bay that will require help from the
[1:30:39] neighbors and friends locally and regionally. I'm very
[1:30:42] excited to work with miami water keeper under free
[1:30:46] oceans and they are partners with freeing that
[1:30:50] legislation to miami-dade county and seeing that past
[1:30:53] eddie county level.
[1:30:55] that started with the sustainability and resilience
[1:30:58] task force which the commissioner was vice chair and
[1:31:02] penny o'brien who is full of nothing but great ideas
[1:31:06] and resources that help champion their efforts and
[1:31:10] continue to live on in the legislation that is passed
[1:31:14] at the regional level and hopefully the state level as
[1:31:18] well.
[1:31:19] thank you all again for that in helping support that
[1:31:23] and that is all I have.
[1:31:26] >>congratulations mr. Vice mayor.
[1:31:28] classic 305.
[1:31:29] I'm really excited that we approve the agreement with
[1:31:33] eagle pods tonight. I think it will be exciting when
[1:31:37] we have a ribbon-cutting ceremony and it would be
[1:31:41] amazing to get some press out of that's that's really
[1:31:46] exciting.
[1:31:46] the first meeting of the miami-dade county watershed
[1:31:49] advisory board was monday morning at county commission
[1:31:53] chambers.
[1:31:53] commissioner danielle cohen higgins was elected the
[1:31:57] chair of that board, the mayor of coral gables was
[1:32:01] elected as vice mayor. This 21 seats on the board and
[1:32:06] municipal seats are held by crystal wagoner and north
[1:32:10] bay village.
[1:32:11] a number of other entities are on the board.
[1:32:15] there commissioner moniz seen and sosa marine fisheries
[1:32:18] and the biscayne bay.
[1:32:20] the us department of interior basically has a seats,
[1:32:24] fiu has a seat and a couple of others.
[1:32:28] the meeting moved much more quickly than I anticipated
[1:32:32] which was a learning experience for me so, the next
[1:32:36] meeting is in february and I will be more up to speed.
[1:32:42] essentially the goal is going to be to draw down as
[1:32:47] much money from miami-dade county as possible there was
[1:32:51] a request coordinate our talking points when we meet
[1:32:55] with legislators so that we can echo lame date counties
[1:32:59] rarities in the area and the top priority is the sewer
[1:33:04] septic conversion. I will be accepting your work from
[1:33:08] the county on where they are on their set sewer
[1:33:12] conversions actually in the area that except the
[1:33:16] immediate basin and will make it that information I
[1:33:20] would be happy to share it you all. That is that the
[1:33:25] only other thing I have is happy holidays everyone.
[1:33:29] on january 23rd which is the day after the stroller
[1:33:34] derby we are going to have a jampacked weekend of fun
[1:33:38] in north bay village.
[1:33:40] on sunday january 23rd we are having a sunset sundowner
[1:33:45] concert.
[1:33:45] it will take place around sunset at vogel park.
[1:33:49] the band is one of our residents who is in this band,
[1:33:54] court. It's like an 80s, 90s rock bandand they take
[1:33:59] requests.
[1:33:59] I think I said this at the last meeting day take
[1:34:04] requests, stump the band, you can make a request and if
[1:34:09] the band doesn't know how to play, mission or if you
[1:34:14] would like to do a duet I would be open to that and
[1:34:20] hope to see everybody on sunday generate when he third
[1:34:24] singing and dancing at the sunset.
[1:34:27] >> go ahead commissioner.
[1:34:28] >> I will do a duet with you commissioner anytime.
[1:34:33] hopefully by then I will be able to walk.
[1:34:37] I just got back surgery on my spine. We had some
[1:34:42] vertebrates removed paired I realized my injury was a
[1:34:46] little more intense than I thought so with the guidance
[1:34:50] and referral of the senator I found a surgeon to help
[1:34:55] with that.
[1:34:56] the resident services board meeting was last night.
[1:34:59] they want to be able to make sure that the needs of the
[1:35:05] residents will be all-encompassing of the age group
[1:35:09] that the city represents.
[1:35:10] making sure we have events for seniors, young kids and
[1:35:15] I feel that it reflects the diversity that we have
[1:35:19] within the commission as well.
[1:35:21] trying to be able to make sure we are handling all the
[1:35:27] needs that the residents have moving forward.
[1:35:30] they are excited about all the things that are upcoming
[1:35:34] hearing about what the commission has been able to
[1:35:38] accomplish in the time that we have been here.
[1:35:42] I also want to commend the city administration on how
[1:35:47] they been decorating the third floor.
[1:35:49] I just other video and everyone's been doing such a
[1:35:54] phenomenal job.
[1:35:55] we are really keeping up with the morale of the
[1:35:59] employees.
[1:36:00] it's wonderful to see that it really shows the
[1:36:04] commodity that we never had in the past and am grateful
[1:36:08] to be part of a team to see that being implemented. So
[1:36:14] thank you again.
[1:36:15] apologize for my absence during this recovery period.
[1:36:19] >> mr. Mayor, it is now a full year I've been serving
[1:36:24] on the north bay island commission.
[1:36:27] when I take a look back at what we plan to work on it
[1:36:33] amazes me.
[1:36:34] we need to take a step back and review all that we have
[1:36:39] asked for and voted for that has been lost in the vast
[1:36:45] open space.
[1:36:46] thankfully it is on paper and in the minutes and I
[1:36:50] asked that the staff use it and catch up on the
[1:36:55] projects and activities we have asked for, of hb given
[1:37:00] for all and those that have been approved and fallen by
[1:37:05] the wayside placed into action.
[1:37:07] the us coast guard turned down our request to lockdown
[1:37:11] the bridges during rush hour as our request was
[1:37:15] unreasonable and would obstruct navigation on the
[1:37:18] waterway.
[1:37:19] it is important to note that this is a federal project
[1:37:24] waterway extending over 1500 miles from boston to
[1:37:27] florida bay.
[1:37:28] if there is no opposition from my fellow bay members I
[1:37:33] would like to ask legal to draft a resolution report
[1:37:37] for approval at the next meeting whereby we request the
[1:37:42] us coast guard and fdo t two have the opening of the
[1:37:47] bridge during peak roadway hours.
[1:37:49] this is a month full of joyous events as we celebrate
[1:37:54] hanukkah and the tree lighting ceremony.
[1:37:57] the holiday lights around the village have been working
[1:38:01] timely and some additional decorations can be seen at
[1:38:05] the entrance of violence.
[1:38:07] thank you to all who made it possible.
[1:38:10] allow me to remind you that this coming sunday there
[1:38:15] will be a holiday recital led by local resident
[1:38:19] samantha nelly at 5 pm at vogel park. Our winter
[1:38:23] wonderland comes up the following week as we enter the
[1:38:27] holidays.
[1:38:28] throughout the month of december there is a box in the
[1:38:33] lobby for collection of unwrapped toys. Please help us
[1:38:37] put a smile on kids faces this christmas and put one
[1:38:42] toy in the box. My thanks to all that make these
[1:38:46] events happen. We do have a full calendar of events
[1:38:51] that happen next year but if there's something you want
[1:38:55] to see, please contact the staff or any of the
[1:39:00] commissioners.
[1:39:00] it has taken north a village 77 years to get to today.
[1:39:05] hearing and seeing some of the plans for our future I'm
[1:39:10] excited to see what is forthcoming.
[1:39:13] on the bridge overhaul, the new construction roadway
[1:39:17] improvements new businesses, educational climate and
[1:39:19] social activities it is a win-win situation for all and
[1:39:24] that is why I wanted to join and be part of this dream
[1:39:29] team.
[1:39:30] to my fellow commissioners, thank you for all your hard
[1:39:34] work this year.
[1:39:36] given proven a leader in your own right and specialty
[1:39:40] and that of note wishing commissioner julianna strout a
[1:39:44] speedy recovery.
[1:39:45] to the staff I know I can be rough on you but it's
[1:39:51] because I know you have it in you to accomplish and
[1:39:55] make the place a three island paradise we all wish and
[1:40:00] wants.
[1:40:01] my constituents fellow residents and neighbors in thank
[1:40:04] you your involvement this year and pushing as hard to
[1:40:09] get to the point we are today with these lofty goals.
[1:40:14] to one and all I wish you blessings of the season
[1:40:19] filled with health and fun family reunions together
[1:40:22] with your loved ones.
[1:40:24] many of us missed that last year I wish you a year full
[1:40:30] of goodness and progress of the film it is very happy
[1:40:34] and productive 2022.
[1:40:36] thank you.
[1:40:37] >> thank you commissioner richard chervony.
[1:40:39] I will make mine brief. First of all, the christmas
[1:40:44] lights are up and they look great. This is the first
[1:40:49] year that I remember not getting negative feedback on
[1:40:53] christmas lights. In fact, they look so good that I
[1:40:57] would like to see them up all year long.
[1:41:01] you look wonderful.
[1:41:02] [cross talk]
[1:41:03] >> I don't like to spend money on christmas lights but
[1:41:08] these christmas lights look really good.
[1:41:11] they look really nice.
[1:41:13] thanks to the whole staff and I know that megan had a
[1:41:18] big role in that and it looks good.
[1:41:21] thank you. It looks wonderful and I haven't heard a
[1:41:26] single complaint.
[1:41:27] we had a bunch of good events as usual, thank you,
[1:41:32] helen, for organizing and madeleine and carla and the
[1:41:36] police always being present to provide safety and
[1:41:39] security.
[1:41:39] alleges levitt. I was at the christmas events and the
[1:41:44] kids were happy and when the kids are happy the parents
[1:41:49] are happy and there's a lot of good stuff going on.
[1:41:54] I had an epiphany moment when one of the dad expressed
[1:41:59] his appreciation for the christmas event and said we
[1:42:03] will see you tomorrow morning at north bay village
[1:42:07] soccer.
[1:42:07] that's community stuff right there.
[1:42:09] that is what communities are made of is stuff for
[1:42:14] people to do.
[1:42:15] we are making a lot of headway in terms of bringing
[1:42:20] people together and that is really important.
[1:42:23] another part of bringing people together is to have the
[1:42:27] space to bring people together.
[1:42:30] we are utilizing the dog park waterfront dust
[1:42:33] wonderful.
[1:42:34] we are building more spaces and and we build more
[1:42:38] spaces we can bring more people together and have more
[1:42:42] programming.
[1:42:43] it is wonderful.
[1:42:44] everyone keep up the good work, commissioners keep
[1:42:48] pumping out those community events, it's awesome. I
[1:42:51] have one coming up on the 19th, sunday the 19th which
[1:42:56] is the recognition of pakistani victory day which is
[1:43:00] essentially their independence day, I'm sorry,
[1:43:03] bangladesh. I'm sorry.
[1:43:04] bangladesh independence from pakistan.
[1:43:06] this is an event that the angle? Community in north
[1:43:11] bay village brought to me asking us to make this event
[1:43:16] a reality.
[1:43:16] and so, I sponsored it and help them out but is
[1:43:21] something that they are putting together and they are
[1:43:25] going to execute it at vogel park and were going to do
[1:43:31] it together as a community and I hope there are a lot
[1:43:36] of community burrs who are not bangladesh will join us
[1:43:40] to bring the community together more and more.
[1:43:44] >> I thought you were spontaneously adding events for
[1:43:48] next week.
[1:43:49] >> no no, it's on the calendar.
[1:43:52] >> the other event was referenced.
[1:43:55] >> rights.
[1:43:55] please come out and join us for that that's all I have
[1:44:01] for now. I have a couple of questions for the manager
[1:44:06] but I will ask them during the manager report here do
[1:44:10] we have a village attorney report? All right let's
[1:44:14] have the manager report which is essentially going to
[1:44:18] be a question.
[1:44:20] >> briefly I want towelcome the commissioner that we
[1:44:24] are all thinking about you and keeping you in our
[1:44:28] prayers.
[1:44:29] I want to congratulate the mayor and helen on all the
[1:44:33] work they've done on the harbor bay task force over the
[1:44:38] last few months. I know it takes a lot of time,
[1:44:43] thought and community engagement so thank you and
[1:44:47] congratulations for that. I want to congratulate
[1:44:50] commissioner richard chervony on the bridge issue.
[1:44:53] even though the outcome wasn't exactly what everyone
[1:44:56] had hoped for I think it is a good solution.
[1:45:01] we are happy to put together the resolution on that and
[1:45:06] I could work out very well. And certainly it is a big
[1:45:11] and if it to the residence.
[1:45:14] good work on that. I know it's something even
[1:45:18] passionate for a long time.
[1:45:20] I want to announce in case it wasn't too obvious this
[1:45:25] is something we started doing during this past meeting
[1:45:29] was a recommendation that we had made at a recent
[1:45:33] manager retreat which we make for our agenda items
[1:45:37] whenever appropriate and in the vast majority of cases
[1:45:41] it will be have asked the staff to put in towards the
[1:45:47] end of the item which of the 100 pillars it reflects.
[1:45:51] if you look, it will explain if an item supports the
[1:45:56] goal of visibility or resilience or prosperity.
[1:45:59] we added 1/4 one because not everything fits into those
[1:46:04] categories which is efficiency.
[1:46:06] sometimes it's about streamlining processes, making
[1:46:08] things easy for everyone in getting the government to
[1:46:12] cut through the red tape when possible. I want to
[1:46:17] thank the staff for incorporating that and that's
[1:46:20] something that we will use moving forward that we are
[1:46:25] using these four goals in support of the commission.
[1:46:29] and finally, in case folks didn't see it we were
[1:46:33] awarded the long coveted $1000 landscape grant for the
[1:46:37] causeway and we were ranked first in the state of
[1:46:41] florida. I want to thank everybody who helped out with
[1:46:46] that and because we kept this in-house we saved grant
[1:46:50] writing fees.
[1:46:51] we are very thrilled.
[1:46:53] this is pretty transformative because we do have a
[1:46:57] required match which we budgeted this year so we are
[1:47:01] talking about over tuna thousand dollars of landscaping
[1:47:05] for the causeway.
[1:47:06] the timing of the project is that we have to get the
[1:47:11] time timing from them before we can do work, we do more
[1:47:17] formal designs etc. We should be done in the summer.
[1:47:21] this is going to be a big deal and we are very happy
[1:47:27] about it.
[1:47:28] that's it for me and I'm happy to answer some
[1:47:32] questions.
[1:47:33] >> I do have a couple.
[1:47:35] we observed trash pickup and I know we have it on
[1:47:40] thanksgiving and in the past during christmas as well
[1:47:44] and in the past you said the workers like to work those
[1:47:50] days?
[1:47:50] >> they like to work those days because they get
[1:47:54] overtime and then they get other days off.
[1:47:58] I think folks deserve a day off.
[1:48:01] next I would like to see them take the day off if they
[1:48:07] want to. I think we can skip a trash day at least in
[1:48:13] the residential homes and have the trash picked up
[1:48:17] three days later so people can have those days off with
[1:48:21] their families if that's what they want.
[1:48:25] I would like to see that.
[1:48:27] I had asked you about in the past and it's come up
[1:48:32] again recently from a neighbor who wants to improve
[1:48:36] their home substantially about the question of assessed
[1:48:40] value versus structural value on the taxes you remember
[1:48:44] this conversation? In terms of the miami-dade property
[1:48:48] tax appraiser when you look at your property taxes you
[1:48:52] have two values the structural value of your home and
[1:48:56] in the total value of your property.
[1:49:00] for many houses in north bay village especially the old
[1:49:04] ones the structural value is extremely low.
[1:49:07] there is some confusion among architects and experts
[1:49:11] and I'm certainly not one about which value triggers
[1:49:15] the 50 percent enhancement of a property.
[1:49:18] >> it is the structural value.
[1:49:20] >> right.
[1:49:21] to me this is an issue. Is that determined by city
[1:49:26] statute or county?
[1:49:27] >> no, it is fema.
[1:49:30] >> to me this is becoming an issue in north bay village
[1:49:35] because the structural values are very low.
[1:49:38] there are homes, for example.
[1:49:40] >> we are very low.
[1:49:42] we are in an ae zone in a special flood hazard area and
[1:49:48] that's why these rules apply to the properties.
[1:49:52] >> there are homes that have sold in the multimillions
[1:49:56] of dollars that people would like to improve but not
[1:50:01] destroyed by the structural value is like $100,000 or
[1:50:05] $150,000 so it is essentially impossible under the
[1:50:08] standards to improve them. Is this not an issue?
[1:50:12] >> f certainly heard from realtors and homeowners that
[1:50:16] it is an issue.
[1:50:18] the one property owner that I spoke to I had said, I
[1:50:23] advised him to work with his contractors to address the
[1:50:28] issue which I believe happened.
[1:50:30] I don't know how much control we have over this. Right?
[1:50:35] this is how insurance works.
[1:50:37] right?
[1:50:37] the goal is to manage risk.
[1:50:40] if the structure is only worth $100,000 it's got to be
[1:50:45] some sort of reflection of how old it is and where it's
[1:50:50] located and what not and that it makes it more
[1:50:55] vulnerable to flooding.
[1:50:56] the policy between the fema 50 percent rule is to
[1:51:00] basically force owners to ring their property up to
[1:51:04] base flood elevation and again we are in an ae zone in
[1:51:10] a special flood hazard area so we have these required
[1:51:14] base flood elevations.
[1:51:15] I think the fema 50 percent rule is accurate and I
[1:51:20] think is how insurance works, he of actuaries whose job
[1:51:25] it is to generate the actual cost of things. In south
[1:51:30] florida don't really generate the actual cost of
[1:51:33] living. I think a perfect example of that is the right
[1:51:38] of condominium associations to waive reserves and not
[1:51:41] pay for maintenance and repairs for 40 years until they
[1:51:46] have together certification.
[1:51:47] right mac the fema 50 percent rule is in place because
[1:51:52] we absolutely need to know the actual cost of
[1:51:56] insurance.
[1:51:57] having property owners elevate the properties when
[1:52:00] they're doing improvement is a way to do that.
[1:52:04] it is not our role but I think it is there for a
[1:52:09] reason.
[1:52:10] with that said, the flood maps are going to be changing
[1:52:15] and this might be different in a year.
[1:52:18] >> the commissioner is right.
[1:52:20] everything you said I would echo. Let's take a look at
[1:52:25] the fema roles to see what we can delve into more with
[1:52:31] this 50 percent enhancement. If there are any sort of
[1:52:35] exceptions that we can explore.
[1:52:37] >> I would like to give people advice on this.
[1:52:42] you know? I don't only understand this. It sounds
[1:52:46] like commissioner rachel streitfeld does and if we
[1:52:49] could get a referral from a commissioner or two as
[1:52:54] common practice?
[1:52:55] it seems counterintuitive to me that a resident could
[1:52:59] pay many millions of dollars for a house and then have
[1:53:03] their structure valued at something in the range of low
[1:53:08] hundred thousand for a two-story 400,000 square-foot
[1:53:11] excuse me 4000 square-foot house which you cannot
[1:53:14] rebuild in miami today.
[1:53:16] it's not unreasonable.
[1:53:18] the whole thing does not add up to me but I must not be
[1:53:24] factoring in all the details.
[1:53:26] >>your basing that on risk and insurance more than
[1:53:30] anything else.
[1:53:31] I think you know an architect to specializes in
[1:53:35] historic properties that you might able to refer to
[1:53:39] someone.
[1:53:39] >> can you refer the name to you. Whether I agree with
[1:53:45] it or not it is a fema policy but I would like to be
[1:53:51] able to explain it to people and refer them to the
[1:53:56] correct sources.
[1:53:56] >> at a minimum we could create a policy.
[1:54:01] >> let's keep it on the radar screen because it's a
[1:54:05] second time I've been asked and it will be the last as
[1:54:11] people start to move into their new homes and want to
[1:54:16] improve them.
[1:54:16] I have one more.
[1:54:18] we have done a good job communicating the harbour
[1:54:22] island parking policy thank you, helen.
[1:54:25] I've gotten some initial feedback on both sides.
[1:54:28] my gut instinct on this is that it is going to be
[1:54:34] troublesome at first because people don't love change.
[1:54:37] what is going to be good in the mid-run, in the long
[1:54:43] run because it should open up working spaces to those
[1:54:47] people who need them. I am okay with it.
[1:54:51] one feedback that I've gotten that I'm sensitive to his
[1:54:55] not from one but multiple resident saying what, the
[1:54:59] recent park on the street, the people who park on the
[1:55:04] street on harbour island are not the most affluent of
[1:55:09] the northbay village community. An increase from$25 to
[1:55:12] $100 might seem insignificant to you and me because it
[1:55:17] is $0.30 a day might affect, this policy might be a
[1:55:21] little more regressive than we might like in terms of
[1:55:26] going from 25 to 100. I would suggest considering I
[1:55:30] don't remember but I think we can provide the economics
[1:55:35] of the intake.
[1:55:36] if there is an adjustment that can be made in the first
[1:55:41] year ago to 50 instead of 100 and then maybe raise the
[1:55:47] second car or additional car to offset that, I would
[1:55:51] recommend we adopt that to prevent burdening those who
[1:55:55] could least afford it with a large increase.
[1:55:59] >> a couple of things and I know we are sensitive to
[1:56:04] that.
[1:56:04] we have already started collecting money based on the
[1:56:08] rate that have already been put out there.
[1:56:12] but maybe if you already had a decal and pay the $25
[1:56:17] you received a credit.
[1:56:19] the $100 has actually been changed to $75 because it's
[1:56:23] for the people who already had a decal now have a
[1:56:28] permit.
[1:56:29] >> I'm sorry, if you paid for 2021 you get a to five
[1:56:35] dollar credit for 2022?
[1:56:36] >> if you already have somebody who has a decal, if you
[1:56:42] are in the last series of boats, we gave you that $25
[1:56:47] credit.
[1:56:47] so you actually pay 75 not the whole 100 and additions
[1:56:52] that we haven't charged for over a year.
[1:56:56] >> you didn't charge for 2020?
[1:56:58] >>right.
[1:56:59] it has been a bit. Understand change is never easy but
[1:57:04] it's been really affordable for a long time.
[1:57:07] >> I'm not saying not affordable I just feel like it's
[1:57:12] compelling to me to say that the people who can least
[1:57:17] afford it are the ones that are asked to pay it and I
[1:57:23] think that is true.
[1:57:25] but I think it's worthwhile to have a discussion about
[1:57:29] affordability.
[1:57:29] I'm hearing from more and more residents about the
[1:57:33] affordability issues in northbay village. We all know
[1:57:37] that the housing market is wild.
[1:57:40] the buyers market is wild but the rental market is
[1:57:44] really crazy.
[1:57:45] I heard a story of someone who lives in, and north a
[1:57:50] village resident whose rent has been raised three
[1:57:54] times.
[1:57:54] I would like for us to have a discussion about what we
[1:58:00] can do if anything to help residents with these
[1:58:03] affordability issues.
[1:58:04] and so, I understand that we've already gone out and
[1:58:09] people are paying a certain price but if we could
[1:58:13] revisit, if you are living in a legacy building and you
[1:58:18] are a couple in a one bedroom that's $250 for you to
[1:58:23] park your cars.
[1:58:25] I think we should do the best we can if there's
[1:58:30] anything we can do.
[1:58:31] >> do you know, do you have a sense of how may people
[1:58:37] who have bought the decals for next year? We literally
[1:58:42] just released the program, right?
[1:58:44] >> number she's talkingindividuals.
[1:58:46] >> okay, I see.
[1:58:47] I met with the residents today that it artie bought
[1:58:52] those.
[1:58:52] >> has anyone else gotten feedback?
[1:58:55] >> if a person has a problemaffording the parking can
[1:58:59] we break up the parking into two payments for quarterly
[1:59:04] payments to make it easier?
[1:59:06] >> that we could do.
[1:59:08] that is probably the easiest solution to implement that
[1:59:12] we collect half of the fee, the fee is set were not
[1:59:17] changing that we collect the payment over two payments
[1:59:21] six months apart or something to give them some
[1:59:25] breathing room.
[1:59:26] >> that would be my suggestion. I know we've done a
[1:59:31] lot of messaging around that issue, we had a lot of
[1:59:36] conversations and we start playing around with costing
[1:59:40] at this moment.
[1:59:41] we could open another can of worms and an equally
[1:59:45] sensitive to pricing concerns. I hear them around
[1:59:49] residents who are renting and owning which is why a
[1:59:53] push so hard on this housing ordinance and again
[1:59:57] discuss it more when we can have the conversation.
[2:00:01] we all have costs that we have to think about.
[2:00:06] we have to charge people and I am also very sensitive
[2:00:11] that it is a great alternative to make changes to the
[2:00:15] cost and I think it allows folks more flexibility in
[2:00:20] terms of a lump sum payment.
[2:00:22] >> we can implement that if that is the general
[2:00:27] consensus.
[2:00:27] if it doesn't require changing the fee schedule that's
[2:00:31] just best practice.
[2:00:33] >> let's do that.
[2:00:34] let's message the residents.
[2:00:36] >> let's keep track of the comments and conversations
[2:00:40] that we are hearing. Every year we think through these
[2:00:45] fees.
[2:00:45] >> we've been talking about it for so long that the
[2:00:50] feedback has been fine and folks of been coming up with
[2:00:55] the amount for their entire building.
[2:00:57] >> it always causes a little consolation.
[2:01:01] >> mr. Manager in your report notes item 9b which is
[2:01:05] the capital improvement projects has a bunch of
[2:01:09] descriptions on a project which is basically the
[2:01:12] redoing of the.[indiscernable].
[2:01:14] >> yes.
[2:01:15] >> there is a deadline for submission of ideas for a
[2:01:20] project deadline.
[2:01:20] >> for environmental feedback: this one is the feedback
[2:01:24] they are taking exquisitely based on what would be the
[2:01:29] impact on the water. Typically they explain this to us.
[2:01:33] the county agency that normally chimes and there's
[2:01:37] going to be quite a bit of public feedback later on.
[2:01:42] they don't have the consultant in place so they have to
[2:01:47] do that first and then they will be making a
[2:01:51] presentation to us.
[2:01:52] >> so we don't need any direction from the commission?
[2:01:57] >> we will.
[2:01:58] we are not there just yet.
[2:02:01] we will bring this topic is actually covered in the 100
[2:02:06] master plan so we will bring it up again if the design
[2:02:11] that is proposed is the design that the commission
[2:02:15] would like to advocate for.
[2:02:17] even with some of the teams that are likely to be the
[2:02:22] teams that are selected for this because this is the
[2:02:27] kind of work they do.
[2:02:29] >> the railing that we got the email about?
[2:02:33] >> yes.
[2:02:34] >> and the other alternatives to mac I'm saying we need
[2:02:39] to discuss this.
[2:02:40] >> we do. They haven't selected a consultant just yet
[2:02:45] so if several more months but we will put it as an
[2:02:50] agenda item early into february, march april somewhere
[2:02:53] in that timeframe to get the design feedback from the
[2:02:58] commission.
[2:02:58] >> I apologize to the mayor not making it to the town
[2:03:04] hall there is a deadline of december 27th for feedback
[2:03:08] on the insurability with the national flood program
[2:03:12] that they are talking about possibly excluding us.
[2:03:15] is there something that we need to discuss before that
[2:03:20] or something that we can submit or coalesce in?
[2:03:24] >>bcc is getting back to us by friday with an analysis
[2:03:28] of how we will be impacted by the draft maps in terms
[2:03:34] of the in fip and crs. Based on what they say I would
[2:03:39] like if the flood maps are going to say we can't
[2:03:44] dissipate and crs, it depends on what they say.
[2:03:48] I do think we should be prepared to submit comet.
[2:03:53] I am happy to do that. I am happy to draftor work with
[2:03:58] others to drafts. I don't know what direction you need
[2:04:03] from us if you need us to vote?
[2:04:06] >> number I need directions as to what I should say in
[2:04:12] the comments.
[2:04:13] >> yes.
[2:04:14] >> we can change some of it but we should all submit as
[2:04:19] commissioners to the board.
[2:04:21] >> the village would need to submit comments as an
[2:04:25] entity.
[2:04:26] >> correct.
[2:04:27] thus the village but we as commissioners can also
[2:04:31] submit comments?
[2:04:32] I believe?
[2:04:33] >> yes, you can.
[2:04:34] >> we have a deadline so at least I'm asking for your
[2:04:40] assistance.
[2:04:40] send me something in the guidelines that you want me to
[2:04:45] say when you get the drafts.
[2:04:48] >> is going to be one comment letter from the village
[2:04:52] and whatever I recommend to be the village comments e
[2:04:57] can also send that letter.
[2:04:59] >> please send me a copy.
[2:05:02] >> do you need us to vote to do that?
[2:05:06] >> we are speaking right now there is a consensus that
[2:05:11] you are the lead on this because we don't know exactly
[2:05:16] what it is we should be saying just yet but you give me
[2:05:22] a general direction on what you want for this we can
[2:05:27] prepare something and send it on behalf of the
[2:05:31] commission and get the commission to chime in.
[2:05:34] otherwise we been working on this for more than a year
[2:05:39] and the city in miami-dade county has not been able to
[2:05:44] display since 1994 and were one of the cities and there
[2:05:49] appeared were basically there and in january we should
[2:05:53] be in the system for the first time ever and so to have
[2:05:58] things change at this point given everyone's hard work
[2:06:02] on the would be a chain.
[2:06:05] >> alex was just here for the town hall and marlon was
[2:06:10] here also.
[2:06:11] we are going to do a meeting, ralph, we are going to do
[2:06:17] a meeting with black and veatch who are these
[2:06:21] subcontractors who are handling the application.
[2:06:24] black and veatch and the crs reviewer, myself, the
[2:06:28] manager, marlon will be there to walk through this.
[2:06:32] how this will be affecting our current application.
[2:06:35] >> wonderful and please send us a copy of whatever it
[2:06:40] is the village is doing and then I will follow suit by
[2:06:45] sending mine.
[2:06:46] >> great.
[2:06:47] if we end up needing to submit comments.
[2:06:51] >> is your intention doing this privately or publicly?
[2:06:55] >> know it is private it does not need to be a sunshine
[2:07:00] deal.
[2:07:01] >> the commission will give you direction to prepare
[2:07:05] your comments and they're not going to provide any
[2:07:09] additional input?
[2:07:10] okay. If there were you have some sunshine issues.
[2:07:14] >> mill.
[2:07:15] >> are you asking her to send it to me and I replied to
[2:07:21] her he met.
[2:07:22] >> after yes that works.
[2:07:24] >> thank you for your trust.
[2:07:27] >> who is the brainchild on that?
[2:07:30] >> divide and conquer.
[2:07:32] >> my last comment is to you, helen, in the ranting and
[2:07:37] due to patient initiative talking about the bee
[2:07:41] dictation of flat bridges that need to be considered in
[2:07:45] the planned group with the hearing and that's now not
[2:07:50] in 2024 going to be much earlier.
[2:07:53] you need to be working on any beautification plan you
[2:07:57] have for the bridges, especially with the manager would
[2:08:01] depend on the design of the bridges which is for 2223.
[2:08:06] >> we will make adjustments.
[2:08:08] >> just wanted to bring it to your attention.
[2:08:12] thank you.
[2:08:13] >> let's move on.
[2:08:15] the village report, do you have a report freshman
[2:08:19] clark?
[2:08:19] >> nothing. Just wishing the commission and residents
[2:08:23] a happy season.
[2:08:24] >> I appreciate that. I like the tree that's been put
[2:08:29] over there it looks niceand festive. The consent
[2:08:32] agenda we do have an item on the consent agenda.
[2:08:37] do I have a motion?
[2:08:39] >> 1185 which is the eco-pod motion.
[2:08:42] you would set it because the vice mayor did make a
[2:08:47] motion. All in favor?
[2:08:49] anyone against?
[2:08:50] okay.
[2:08:50] it unanimously passes. Let's move on to the first
[2:08:54] reading of ordinance is 12 a.
[2:08:57] I'm sorry, did I miss 11:00?
[2:08:59] were going to come back to those in the discussion
[2:09:04] items. They have been pulled to pay let's do the
[2:09:08] ordinance and the public hearing first and then we will
[2:09:13] do the other items as part of the discussion. So, 12 a
[2:09:18] ordinance clarifying etc. Madame clerk.
[2:09:20] tell us what?
[2:09:22] >> ordinance clarifying the village's use of miami-dade
[2:09:25] county area median
[2:09:26] income (ami) in the workforce housing program-vice
[2:09:30] mayor marvin wilmoth an ordinance of the mayor and
[2:09:34] commission of north bay village, florida, amending
[2:09:38] chapter 3,?definitions,?
[2:09:39] and section 15.2.1.b.,?definition of terms? In chapter
[2:09:42] 15,?form-based code,?
[2:09:44] of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)
[2:09:47] to clarify the village?s use of area median income
[2:09:51] (ami) and the definition of eligible household income
[2:09:55] range for workforce housing units; providing for
[2:09:58] severability; providing for
[2:09:59] codification; providing for conflicts; and providing
[2:10:02] for an
[2:10:03] effective date.
[2:10:04] >> thank you.
[2:10:05] vice mayor this is your item.
[2:10:08] >> thank you mr. Merritt this is a follow-up to an item
[2:10:13] that we all unanimously approved around workforce
[2:10:16] housing piggybacking on the conversation we started
[2:10:19] earlier today a number of residents as they have
[2:10:23] approached me and it sounds like have approached the
[2:10:27] rest of the commission as well around issues with
[2:10:31] affordability in north bay village.
[2:10:33] one of the great things about the city when I moved
[2:10:38] from new york and from other professionals here at
[2:10:42] north bay village is you can have a mammy experience
[2:10:47] without paying mammy prices.
[2:10:48] that is something we need to be cognizant of as we make
[2:10:54] changes to the code.
[2:10:55] we need to make changes that are smart and not push out
[2:11:01] our current residence and this clarification to the ami
[2:11:05] percentage allows us to do so.
[2:11:07] there's some information by staff and I'm sure they
[2:11:11] would be happy to weigh in on anything we missed but we
[2:11:17] really want to focus on the folks that teach our
[2:11:21] children, the fires, keep our municipalities moving,
[2:11:24] the real-life lead of miami here.
[2:11:27] with that, I am happy to answer any questions or if
[2:11:32] there is one from the city staff that has any
[2:11:36] additional items to add I would be happy to do so or if
[2:11:42] anyone wants to a motion.
[2:11:44] I guess I can make a motion I would be happy to make a
[2:11:50] motion yes I would make a motion to accept item 12 a.
[2:11:56] thank you.
[2:11:57] >> let's open it a public comment.
[2:12:00] any public comment online?
[2:12:01] >> I see none mayor.
[2:12:04] >> public comment is closed.
[2:12:06] >> I do have one more comments.
[2:12:09] sylvia has been such a trooper on eating me to the
[2:12:14] finish line here.
[2:12:15] thank you, so much for all your hard work. I know we
[2:12:20] went back and forth making sure we got to the number
[2:12:25] that we thought reflected the residence here at north
[2:12:29] bay village so thank you for doing all the hard work
[2:12:34] and the city staff as well for helping to pull this all
[2:12:39] together so, thank you.
[2:12:41] >> can you clarifywhat exhibit we are adopting?
[2:12:45] >> yes.
[2:12:46] I wanted to make sure that I understood as well to
[2:12:51] clarify.
[2:12:51] thank you for your words vice mayor.
[2:12:54] we have two versions of the ordinance. The first one
[2:12:59] was the one that we took to planning and zoning.
[2:13:03] it has the changes that the vice mayor mentioned and
[2:13:07] originally we had also recommended expanding the income
[2:13:11] range from the current code language which is from 80
[2:13:15] to 100 and two race that up to a range of 140. The
[2:13:21] ordinance was accepted as such by the planning and
[2:13:25] zoning board. However, in further investigation of the
[2:13:29] different income ranges and the impact on the rent
[2:13:33] which is a very fitting segue to your comment,
[2:13:37] commissioner rachel streitfeld, we realized that the
[2:13:40] rents, by raising the income limit 40 percent of ami
[2:13:44] would also raise the rents.
[2:13:46] those are the conversations that the vice mayor is
[2:13:50] referring to it we looked at that data and we are
[2:13:55] putting in front of you and alternate ordinance that
[2:13:59] makes the change from local median household income
[2:14:03] back to county ami which is lower.
[2:14:06] and, would leave the income range as it is today
[2:14:10] without upper range of 140.
[2:14:12] as you know, the commission are able to make changes of
[2:14:17] the first reading and that is why we are putting that
[2:14:22] alternate recommendation in front of you.
[2:14:25] this is not disrespecting the planning and zoning
[2:14:28] boards vote. I think the planning and zoning board was
[2:14:33] more focused on the change from local median household
[2:14:37] income ami then rent limit.
[2:14:39] we feel that this change would not be disrespecting
[2:14:43] their interest.
[2:14:44] I guess that is all I will say and I will answer any
[2:14:50] questions.
[2:14:50] >> for clarification exhibit b is what I'm referencing.
[2:14:54] when we did the numbers and am happy to walk you
[2:14:59] through it, there's way more research than sylvia
[2:15:02] wanted to do but with the windowed 40 ami range were
[2:15:07] talking to I to $2600 for a studio apartment. It is
[2:15:12] not workforce housing.
[2:15:14] >> to me it's never made sense to have something that
[2:15:18] goes abovethe median income for workforce housing
[2:15:21] because all you get is the average in the neighborhood
[2:15:26] you're talking about or higher than that.
[2:15:29] I'm not an expert on this but it makes perfect sense.
[2:15:34] >>so, 80 to 100 percent miami-dade county ami?
[2:15:37] >> correct.
[2:15:38] >> how would it affect us if we went 70 to 100?
[2:15:44] >> it would essentially lower the income limit for
[2:15:48] whatever a family of four would be.
[2:15:51] now, through this announcement and sylvia, jump in
[2:15:54] whenever you want it we thought that the residents who
[2:15:59] live here in bay village and thought through the
[2:16:03] profiles of the young professionals that we are trying
[2:16:07] to attract as well, we realize that 80 to 100 provides
[2:16:11] flexibility.
[2:16:12] one, for a young professional or someone who is on a
[2:16:17] fixed income so looking at our seniors, commissioner
[2:16:20] richard chervony, would be able to fall into that
[2:16:24] limit.
[2:16:25] [laughter] you said that you were our representative I
[2:16:29] just wanted you to know that were thinking about you.
[2:16:33] >> thank you, I am learning!
[2:16:36] over 40 I need to stretch more!
[2:16:39] I'm learning. On the flipside of that we have also
[2:16:43] looked at what we are seeing is also the missing middle
[2:16:48] and folks are getting squeezed at that middle income
[2:16:52] tear as well.
[2:16:54] just now turn the corner, you got married, your family
[2:16:58] has grown and having that flexibility provides us with
[2:17:02] a workforce housing range that really reflects the
[2:17:05] current resident population in the village.
[2:17:08] what's okay, I trust you. Let's do that peerless go
[2:17:13] with the motion to approve.
[2:17:15] >> yes. And, to add an amendment to say specific way
[2:17:20] that it would be part of the motion to approve.
[2:17:24] >> and, he wanted to use a separate language? Okay.
[2:17:29] >> okay, we had public comment so we can vote.
[2:17:33] >> commissioner julianna strout has her hand raised.
[2:17:36] but I wanted to make sure I was on muted to vote.
[2:17:42] >> please.
[2:17:43] >> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[2:17:45] commissioner richard chervony?
[2:17:46] commissioner rachel streitfeld?
[2:17:48] commissioner julianna strout?
[2:17:49] mayor brent latham?
[2:17:50] the motion carries.
[2:17:52] >> thank you all.
[2:17:53] >> thank you for all the work that you did on this.
[2:17:59] >> incorporated you, sylvia.
[2:18:00] >> okay, public hearings. We have 13 a don't know if
[2:18:05] you want to do 13 a and 13 b together?
[2:18:10] >> I wanted to recommend that you put them together. I
[2:18:15] wanted to offer a very brief intro.
[2:18:18] >> please do but let's read whatever you need to read.
[2:18:23] >> I guess I don't need to do an intro. We can cover
[2:18:28] these well.
[2:18:29] >> go head clerk.
[2:18:31] >> an ordinance eliminating non-hardship variances-
[2:18:34] sponsored by
[2:18:35] commissioner rachel streitfeld an ordinance of the
[2:18:38] mayor and commission of north bay village, florida,
[2:18:42] amending table 4.4.a.1,?public hearings?
[2:18:44] in chapter 4 and sections 7.4, 7.5 and 7.6 in chapter
[2:18:49] 7,?variances,?
[2:18:50] of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)
[2:18:53] to 8 eliminate all references and provisions related to
[2:18:57] ?nonhardship variances?; providing for codification;
[2:18:59] providing for
[2:19:00] severability; providing for conflicts; and providing
[2:19:03] for an
[2:19:04] effective date.
[2:19:05] do you want to go ahead and read 13 b?
[2:19:09] ordinance to provide for an administrative adjustment
[2:19:12] process in the uldc-village manager ralph rosado,
[2:19:16] ph.d., aicp (village planner silvia e.
[2:19:19] vargas, faicp, leed ap)
[2:19:21] an ordinance of the mayor and commission of north bay
[2:19:25] village, florida, amending chapter 4,?administration
[2:19:28] and enforcement,? And chapter 7,?variances,? Of the
[2:19:31] village?s unified land development code (uldc) to
[2:19:34] provide for an
[2:19:36] administrative adjustment process; providing for
[2:19:38] severability; providing for codification; providing for
[2:19:40] conflicts; and providing for an effective date.
[2:19:44] >> I want to thank my colleagues for the support on
[2:19:48] this effort of the first reading.
[2:19:51] we are eliminating one of the two variances that were
[2:19:55] available under the heartland development and this will
[2:19:59] ensure that our zoning code is followed in a more
[2:20:03] regular way and when we remove that non-hardship based
[2:20:07] variant we also made sure that our property owners can
[2:20:12] build appropriately on their property.
[2:20:14] we now have 13 b which is an administrative adjustment
[2:20:18] process.
[2:20:19] this is the second reading, right? It is the second
[2:20:23] reading on this administrative adjustment process so
[2:20:26] when we heard it the first time the mayor asked for
[2:20:31] some criteria that was a little bit more spelled out
[2:20:36] and I think we have that here with us.
[2:20:40] I think having these two parallel processes where you
[2:20:44] have someone who has a hardship can come in for a
[2:20:49] variance procedure and otherwise property owners will
[2:20:52] be expected to follow our code.
[2:20:54] but when single-family homeowners really have a need
[2:20:58] they can go straight through an administrative process
[2:21:01] and not have to spend the money to go before the
[2:21:06] commission and the planning and zoning board to get a
[2:21:11] variance approved.
[2:21:12] I think this is a really nice compromise so I will make
[2:21:17] the motion to approve 13 a and 19.
[2:21:20] >> I secondthat.
[2:21:22] >> let's open it for public comment.
[2:21:25] nobody online madame clerk?
[2:21:27] public comment is closed.
[2:21:28] they are probably ready to vote.
[2:21:31] okay.
[2:21:32] does anyone have anything else before we go? Can we
[2:21:36] vote on these two at the same time or do we have to
[2:21:42] vote on them separately?
[2:21:43] 13 a. Let's vote on that.
[2:21:46] >> commissioner richard chervony?
[2:21:48] vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[2:21:50] commissioner richard chervony?
[2:21:51] commissioner julianna strout?
[2:21:52] mayor brent latham? The motion carries.
[2:21:55] >> let's take13 b, on that let's open that for public
[2:22:00] comment.
[2:22:00] okay, public comment is closed.
[2:22:03] let's get a motion and a second on 13 b.
[2:22:07] >> a make a motion to approve13 b.
[2:22:10] >> second.
[2:22:11] >> with emotion and a second so now we can vote.
[2:22:16] >> commissioner rachel streitfeld?
[2:22:18] vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
[2:22:20] commissioner richard chervony?
[2:22:21] commissioner julianna strout?
[2:22:22] mayor brent latham?
[2:22:24] the motion carries.
[2:22:25] >> I really do want to thank you all for your
[2:22:30] cooperation and support on this.
[2:22:32] >> you are welcome. Let's take 13 tran 21 which is the
[2:22:37] sago palm ordinance which we added.
[2:22:40] >> this is the code to bring sago palms within
[2:22:45] specified areas providing for clarification providing
[2:22:47] for conflict and implication and providing an effective
[2:22:51] date.
[2:22:51] >> mayor, if I can add one quick clarification?
[2:22:55] this is in 13 c this is actually the first reading of
[2:23:01] this ordinance so let's just take note of that.
[2:23:04] thank you.
[2:23:05] >> thank you.
[2:23:07] >> okay, I don't think there's much to discuss, let's
[2:23:11] open it for public comment.
[2:23:13] okay, the public comment is closed.
[2:23:16] I will make a motion.
[2:23:18] >> I will second it.
[2:23:20] >> let's vote.
[2:23:22] >> mayor brent latham?
[2:23:23] commissioner richard chervony?
[2:23:25] commissioner rachel streitfeld?
[2:23:26] commissioner julianna strout?
[2:23:27] vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Mayor, the motion carries.
[2:23:31] >> let's take a five minute break.
[2:23:35] >> do we need a resolution?
[2:23:37] for the change of the starting time of the meetings?
[2:23:42] >> we could change the resolution for the starting
[2:23:46] time.
[2:23:46] >> is the same resolution but we can change it to draft
[2:23:51] it back into the agenda for the order of business.
[2:23:56] >> let's take a motion to change the starting time of
[2:24:01] the meeting to 6 pm.
[2:24:03] >> I will know that.
[2:24:05] >> I will secondit.
[2:24:07] >> all in favor?
[2:24:09] >>aye.
[2:24:09] >> anyone against?
[2:24:10] >> I would add the commission always has a liberty if
[2:24:15] you have concerns about residence coming in for
[2:24:19] something important you can delay things for after 6:30
[2:24:23] anyway.
[2:24:23] >> we can and often we go beyond6:30.
[2:24:27] okay.
[2:24:27] we are moving on.
[2:24:29] this is yours.
[2:24:30] 11 a 2.
[2:24:32] >> yes peered this item is coming up because earlier
[2:24:36] this year we put out an it process for videography
[2:24:41] services and that original it q was meant to cover
[2:24:45] video services not to exceed $15,000. We have exceeded
[2:24:49] that amount.
[2:24:50] or, we will be exceeding that amount soon if we don't
[2:24:55] bring this to commission. In the it q process the
[2:24:59] quote that we got back showed that other companies are
[2:25:04] charging way more than real-life studio is charging.
[2:25:07] if we put this out to our it guy, what were trying to
[2:25:13] do in this waiver of securement requests is to go
[2:25:17] forward with a company that we have already been
[2:25:21] working with, that we trust and we've had a good
[2:25:26] relationship with knowing that if we went out to rp
[2:25:30] again the chances are ugly that it will be the same
[2:25:35] result.
[2:25:35] companies that are charging even more.
[2:25:38] and so, we humbly request a one-year service with
[2:25:42] real-life studio.
[2:25:43] >> mr. Mayor, the language in the code, if you are
[2:25:48] going to forgo a competitive process there is a best
[2:25:52] interest exception identify in the pew kerman code so
[2:25:56] we put that into the resolution.
[2:25:59] you doing this because it is in the best interest of
[2:26:04] the village to weigh the competitive light given to the
[2:26:08] conclusion.
[2:26:09] >> the reason I pulled this agenda is because we were
[2:26:13] delay said that we were close to running out of funds.
[2:26:18] we have a to $5000 videography.
[2:26:21] >> we are not running out of funds.
[2:26:25] I might have misspoke but what he meant to say is we
[2:26:30] are-
[2:26:31] >> with the code we can't exceed $15,000 in lifetime
[2:26:35] expenditures with the same company without it going to
[2:26:39] rfp.
[2:26:40] we will be exceeding that amount.
[2:26:42] not in this year.
[2:26:44] >> my other question is if it was just the one year
[2:26:49] extension, I could sort of go with it but you are
[2:26:54] giving me three one-year extensions.
[2:26:56] we should require an rfp. Maybe we could go with an rf
[2:27:02] three without a proper response to an rf two.
[2:27:06] >> because it is lifetime not just in this year we are
[2:27:11] exceeding 15,000 paid we could go to the rfp again but
[2:27:16] we are bringing this up to the commission so that you
[2:27:21] guys can or are aware that we are at that threshold and
[2:27:26] to at least prove that threshold right now.
[2:27:30] >> it sounds like we could save ourselves time and
[2:27:34] money from going through this process again if are
[2:27:38] going to get the same answer.
[2:27:41] >> yes.
[2:27:42] >> any of the quotes that we have seen have been
[2:27:46] comparable and were with the service they have provided
[2:27:50] so far?
[2:27:51] >> yes.
[2:27:52] >> I don't see an issue with this.
[2:27:56] I will make a motion to approve.
[2:27:59] >> do I have a second?
[2:28:01] >> I will secondit.
[2:28:03] >> let's vote.
[2:28:05] >> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes commissioner rachel
[2:28:08] streitfeld? Yes commissioner richard chervony? Number.
[2:28:11] >> commissioner julianna strout?
[2:28:13] number I think we should go to an rfp.
[2:28:17] >> mayor brent latham? Yesthe motion carries.
[2:28:20] >> despite the fact that we approve that I was suggest
[2:28:24] due diligence in considering if an rfp at some point is
[2:28:29] the best thing we should do.
[2:28:32] >> we can consider that your.
[2:28:35] >> mr. Mayor we are only making the commitment for one
[2:28:40] year the options are at your discretion.
[2:28:43] >> yes. I just want to make wesure we are being as
[2:28:48] transparent as possible which I believe everyone
[2:28:51] intends to do.
[2:28:52] all right.
[2:28:53] 11a3 which would be similar discussion.
[2:28:56] >> this one is a one-time waiver procurement for events
[2:29:00] services. It is not just to utilize this company, had
[2:29:05] an rfp for event services however, the company we were
[2:29:09] going to eat originally used for the winter wonderland
[2:29:13] fell through.
[2:29:14] because we have used them in the past in the same with
[2:29:19] the last item we will be exceeding the threshold
[2:29:23] required for expenditures with the company without
[2:29:26] going to or through the procurement process. We went
[2:29:30] with a company whichtrust and we went with in the past
[2:29:35] and we've use them for emergency purposes use them for
[2:29:40] the winter wonderland event.
[2:29:42] it would only be to authorize funds for the tour
[2:29:46] wonderland not for any other events because we are
[2:29:50] going out for rfp for event services peered.
[2:29:53] >> I make a motion to approve.
[2:29:57] >> I will second.
[2:29:58] any other questions or comments?
[2:30:01] anybody?
[2:30:01] >> the comments that I have and the reason why I pulled
[2:30:06] it, it is a reflection on you, helen, because you have
[2:30:11] a job right now and you are in the middle of the
[2:30:17] process.
[2:30:17] it is poor planning from the village point of view.
[2:30:21] this event is taking place in 10 days and you're asking
[2:30:26] nino to be able to provide a contract to the company
[2:30:31] that was proposed way back when?
[2:30:34] you know?
[2:30:35] it's like hey, bail me out and we stood up and now we
[2:30:40] have to solve it somehow or another in here we are a
[2:30:46] day before the event we are signing a contract and I
[2:30:51] think that is poor planning. I'm sorry.
[2:30:54] >> we didn't expect to lose our arrangement with the
[2:30:58] previous company peered obviously that's unexpected and
[2:31:01] this is a way to keep it on track and be successful.
[2:31:07] we needed this for the vendors. We didn't drop them
[2:31:11] they became nonresponsive. That definitely wasn't
[2:31:14] expected.
[2:31:14] >> wind that take place?
[2:31:16] >> a few weeks ago?
[2:31:18] >> that company, we reached out well in advance about
[2:31:23] three or four months ago to make sure because it was
[2:31:28] that company was going to provide an ice slide.
[2:31:32] it's something that not many companies provide.
[2:31:35] so we did reach out to them knowing it was going to be
[2:31:41] hard to fill that in december to find a company that
[2:31:45] creates an ice slide.
[2:31:47] they double book and so we had to pivot and figure out
[2:31:53] a different plan.
[2:31:54] >> ice-skating.
[2:31:55] >> now it is a synthetic slide.
[2:31:58] >> I love these events.
[2:32:00] >> the kids will be happy, I am sure.
[2:32:04] >> so, to me that doesn't resolve the data it's the
[2:32:09] best they can do in the situation.
[2:32:12] >> it does resolve the issue but I don't think it's
[2:32:17] fair to the commission to come 10 days before an event
[2:32:22] and ask them to bail us out.
[2:32:25] there has to be a backup plan when june event.
[2:32:29] >> is sounds like they do.
[2:32:32] >> they do. This is a last moment-*custom* I disagree
[2:32:37] because the event is still taking place.
[2:32:40] >> they should've come to us before and presented us a
[2:32:45] backup plan.
[2:32:46] >> commissioner richard chervony with all due respect I
[2:32:50] don't think it's fair to double plan something just in
[2:32:54] case a provider backs out.
[2:32:56] sounds like they save the event and is going to be
[2:33:01] spectacular despite the fact they had difficulty with
[2:33:05] the provider.
[2:33:06] I guess were just interpreting the same thing in
[2:33:10] different ways.
[2:33:10] >> fair enough.
[2:33:12] >> I know helen was being very diligently brought it to
[2:33:17] the resident services as well.
[2:33:19] >> that is a good point. A lot of this discussion
[2:33:24] takes place over residence services. Okay, cool.
[2:33:27] I think that suffices.
[2:33:29] let's vote on the contract.
[2:33:31] >> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?
[2:33:35] yes.
[2:33:35] commissioner richard chervony? No.
[2:33:37] commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
[2:33:39] julianna strout? Yes peered the motion carries. We
[2:33:43] will have the winter wonderland, thank you.
[2:33:46] okay.
[2:33:46] 11 a number 4 who is going to present it to mac.
[2:33:52] >> I will.
[2:33:53] right.
[2:33:53] >> I pulled it from the consent.
[2:33:56] >> I pulled it because I want to discuss it but I don't
[2:34:02] need to introduce it.
[2:34:04] >> want you go ahead.
[2:34:06] >> we worked with everyone on the commission on these
[2:34:11] items this involves derelict vessels in particular in
[2:34:14] the bay waters to the immediate west of the village.
[2:34:19] as you all know we have added issues that have subsided
[2:34:23] over the last several months but you don't know when
[2:34:28] they can rear their ugly head again.
[2:34:31] >>and, a giant advertising barge?
[2:34:33] what's we have already reported them.
[2:34:36] it is not necessarily easy at the idea is to strengthen
[2:34:41] what we ask of our partners because as strict as we are
[2:34:46] are not necessarily as strict as we would like them to
[2:34:51] be and so we are making a series of asks to amy dade
[2:34:57] county and the state of florida, they are in your memo
[2:35:02] and I am not going to read all of them but, some of the
[2:35:08] key ones let me pull that out.
[2:35:11] >> are you looking at the bullets in the
[2:35:15] recommendation?
[2:35:15] assigning, designated enforcement officers to our area
[2:35:18] to make sure vessels are secured and in compliance.
[2:35:22] reviewing and adopting code changes to enhance
[2:35:25] regulations and provide speedy enforcement for vessels
[2:35:29] that are in noncompliance.
[2:35:30] coordinating monthly or quarterly compliance
[2:35:33] inspections of the commercial vessels with law
[2:35:36] enforcement, fish and wildlife etc. Paid so on and so
[2:35:40] forth peered these recognitions have been developed
[2:35:43] over a time with input on those agencies and orlando
[2:35:48] has been the lead on this.
[2:35:50] sustainability and resilience task or says given
[2:35:53] feedback.
[2:35:54] I have given feedback, we've had so many conversations.
[2:35:58] these are I think good recommendations that I will
[2:36:02] certainly take as a platform to the watershed water
[2:36:06] advisory board if we adopt this resolution tonight.
[2:36:09] >> is going to say I have one more to add that we
[2:36:15] learned about today because it is a new initiative and
[2:36:19] maybe commissioner rachel streitfeld knows about this
[2:36:23] already but our lead marine patrol officer was recently
[2:36:27] asked to become part of the working group cord needed
[2:36:31] by the county where they are actually part of a
[2:36:35] land-use initiative to be able to control these things
[2:36:39] and they are doing an analysis of the types of seagrass
[2:36:44] in the area and if there are certain species of
[2:36:49] seagrass they can prohibit these operations.
[2:36:51] it essentially creates distance requirement is an
[2:36:54] intriguing idea.
[2:36:55] this was very recent and it just came to our attention
[2:37:00] today.
[2:37:01] our recommendation is to add this on here as one of the
[2:37:06] final bullets so we can transmit to the agencies.
[2:37:10] >> where can we buy that seagrass and go scuba diving?
[2:37:15] >> it is absolutely fascinating.
[2:37:17] there are certain species of seagrass in the areas
[2:37:21] above it are off limits and other going to put some
[2:37:26] time and effort into looking at the species around here
[2:37:30] if they find a variety of them it creates an automatic
[2:37:35] preserve. So no commercial advertising, or any of
[2:37:39] these things.
[2:37:40] >> I want to make a motion to approve a resolution to
[2:37:45] increase enforcement and proactive monitoring of the
[2:37:48] bay.
[2:37:48] by implement in these policies, procedures, code
[2:37:52] amendments and retain monitoring of enforcement plan to
[2:37:55] include all of the bulleted items as well as the
[2:38:00] additional item mentioned by dr. Ralph rosado regarding
[2:38:03] the marine patrol working group.
[2:38:05] I would like to make sure that we have an executed
[2:38:10] version of this resolution and really I would like it
[2:38:15] to have all of our signatures, not just the mayor.
[2:38:19] I would like a copy of that to circulate to the
[2:38:24] watershed management board and other folks at derm
[2:38:27] peered.
[2:38:28] >> I would second the motion.
[2:38:30] >> I agree wholeheartedly with all of this and the
[2:38:35] resolution I want to thank orlando for stewarding this
[2:38:39] and putting it together is comprehensive and that is
[2:38:43] important.
[2:38:43] my only I'm not sure it is a doubt and not a nextel
[2:38:49] type of thing.
[2:38:50] picking a resolution and sending it-you want
[2:38:54] follow-up?
[2:38:55] >> yes. Otherwise you're sitting at 268 different
[2:38:58] people.
[2:38:59] how do we get it to move? How do we continue to poke
[2:39:05] them?
[2:39:05] obviously commissioner rachel streitfeld will have a
[2:39:08] large role in her role in the watershed management
[2:39:12] board.
[2:39:13] I am willing to contact the proper people but we need
[2:39:17] some tangible action on this more than just saying a
[2:39:22] bunch of stuff.
[2:39:23] >> I thought about that.
[2:39:25] my recommendation is miami-dade county, the city of
[2:39:29] miami and the state of florida if three of you would
[2:39:34] pick one of them and make it the lead and identify who
[2:39:39] is the appropriate local lead in each of those and that
[2:39:44] hopes to raise the tension level on this.
[2:39:47] we do need a champion in each of these jurisdictions.
[2:39:52] >> who will be targeting the state of florida?
[2:39:56] is it our state rep and state senator?
[2:39:59] >> it is.
[2:40:01] we have state lobbyists as well in the relevant
[2:40:05] agencies would be involved as well. We need a little
[2:40:09] bit of guidance in terms of what exact levers we
[2:40:14] should.
[2:40:14] >> I would gladly take on the state senator peered.
[2:40:18] >> I think it is more than michael and jason.
[2:40:23] it is really.
[2:40:24] >> should we seek what action they would give us?
[2:40:29] >>yeah, it is ron and ron.
[2:40:31] we need to have a meeting with the woman who runs the
[2:40:37] bisque wayne bay preserve.
[2:40:38] >> I actually asked madeleine to set up a meeting.
[2:40:43] I know we are supposed to have a meeting with her on
[2:40:48] the agenda at this point.
[2:40:50] should we make it an essential meeting or bring her
[2:40:55] around?
[2:40:55] >> I think it should be a sunshine meeting so as many
[2:41:01] of us can be there as possible. We are a force when we
[2:41:06] are altogether.
[2:41:07] >> okay.
[2:41:08] dr. Ralph rosado I have a request with madeleine to set
[2:41:13] up a meeting with her and she does have the contact
[2:41:18] details if we can just change that meeting to get a
[2:41:23] sunshine meeting that luther multiple commissioners can
[2:41:26] attend or if she can attend a meeting?
[2:41:29] >> at the next meeting the 6 pm meeting.
[2:41:33] >> sunshine is easy just have to advertise it.
[2:41:37] >> I think the sunshine meeting is the way to go.
[2:41:42] >> we will get that set up. What was her name? I am
[2:41:48] not miller with her. Laura?
[2:41:50] >> laura aldrich?
[2:41:51] I will send it to you later.
[2:41:55] >> that's fine.
[2:41:56] >> okay.
[2:41:57] >> that's the state of florida pit the city of miami?
[2:42:02] >> I would imagine that's the coastal commission and
[2:42:06] that's the mayor. Then I think we need a political
[2:42:10] champions we can set something up with commissioner
[2:42:14] russell so we just have to determine who wants to be
[2:42:18] the lead on that.
[2:42:20] >> I am happy to takemiami and the county if someone
[2:42:25] else wants to take the city of miami, be my guest.
[2:42:30] >> I can do that or I can defer to you. I plenty to do.
[2:42:37] >> marvin is already dealing with the county, right
[2:42:41] commit.
[2:42:41] >> the county with sally?
[2:42:43] okay.
[2:42:44] >> I don't have any relationship with mayor soros.
[2:42:48] >> as the doctor says, I think ken russell is probably
[2:42:53] the one we want to talk to on this.
[2:42:57] >> I have already talked to him about water protection
[2:43:01] on a number of levels so sure, I would be happy to talk
[2:43:07] to ken russell.
[2:43:08] >> if you're talking about this areaparticularly,
[2:43:11] that's christine kings territory?
[2:43:13] >> we can set up something with both and we really
[2:43:18] should meet her.
[2:43:19] >> she is chairman of the board and you don't want to
[2:43:24] offend her, either.
[2:43:26] >> who wants to somewhat tackle her?
[2:43:29] >> no one is tackling anyone.[laughter]
[2:43:31] >> it depends. It depends on how the meetings go!
[2:43:36] [laughter]
[2:43:36] >> it depends on whether it is you or me.
[2:43:41] >> I will be the point person with the city of miami.
[2:43:46] >> perfect,done.
[2:43:47] >> I don't know!
[2:43:49] [laughter]
[2:43:49] >> done.
[2:43:50] >> let me know if anyone needs any help with anything I
[2:43:55] would be happy to jump in especially with the maritime
[2:44:00] business is concerned. To me that's one of the biggest
[2:44:04] stratus of the whole thing.
[2:44:06] is jesse exploitation of our bay to make a quick buck.
[2:44:11] we cannot have that.
[2:44:13] >> we do need to follow up on this.
[2:44:17] >> we do. It's not enough just to send out the
[2:44:22] proclamation.
[2:44:22] >> no but I also want to manage expectations.
[2:44:26] what were asking these agencies to do is to impose new
[2:44:31] stricter ordinances.
[2:44:32] so,
[2:44:33] >> is it?
[2:44:34] to me I'm not a lawyer but some of these are matters of
[2:44:40] interpretation.
[2:44:40] sensually the reason there is a marine barge with a
[2:44:45] giant billboard on it is because it is categorized as a
[2:44:49] vessel.
[2:44:50] >> I know.
[2:44:51] we discussed it with them and I think that there are
[2:44:56] some wins we can get changing the interpretation is
[2:45:00] certainly one of them.
[2:45:02] but, there are other changes that need to be made and
[2:45:07] thankfully, miami-dade county in one week the county
[2:45:10] commission approved a boat show in the most sensitive
[2:45:14] area in the bay from entities in a year where thousands
[2:45:19] of manatees have died. And after the fact, three days
[2:45:23] later decided it was sufficient for them to have
[2:45:27] goodwill ambassadors that that was going to fix the
[2:45:31] problem.
[2:45:32] >> but there's a difference in terms of motivation to
[2:45:36] act on a show which drives millions of dollars in
[2:45:41] tourism and other benefits to the ime area aside from
[2:45:45] its negative environmental consequences and advertising
[2:45:48] barge that is anchored off the causeway categorizes a
[2:45:52] vessel that has no captain, no supplies probably not
[2:45:56] even a proper motor or any of that stuff. It has
[2:46:01] broken loose from its mooring on multipleoccasions and
[2:46:04] has floated away. It's two different masks.
[2:46:07] >> I know. Again but not everybody thinks the way you
[2:46:12] do and that certainly reflected at the miami-dade
[2:46:16] county commission.
[2:46:17] and I am sitting on the beach I am being marketed to,
[2:46:22] not just in the sky thus been happening for decades but
[2:46:27] now they have floating screens on the ocean.
[2:46:30] this is the world we live in. We will do our best, we
[2:46:36] will lobby and meet with people and use the power
[2:46:40] that's been given by our residents and will continue to
[2:46:45] push our agenda.
[2:46:46] >> the lower hanging fruit is getting them to patrol
[2:46:51] these waters more often. If we get nothing beyond that
[2:46:55] it is a win.
[2:46:57] >> okay.
[2:46:58] do we vote?
[2:46:59] >> yes I have a motion by commissioner rachel
[2:47:03] streitfeld.
[2:47:03] >> yes.
[2:47:04] we did vote?
[2:47:06] let's yes.
[2:47:07] >> it was unanimous?
[2:47:08] >> I'm sorry, we had a motion but we did not vote.
[2:47:14] >> okay, let's vote, shall we?
[2:47:16] commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
[2:47:19] richard chervony?
[2:47:19] yes.
[2:47:20] commissioner julianna strout?
[2:47:21] yes.
[2:47:22] vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?
[2:47:25] yes the motion carries.
[2:47:27] >> correct me if I am wrong I think that brings me to
[2:47:33] 14 b tran 22. We are moving along.
[2:47:36] this is a resolution presented by either dr. Ralph
[2:47:40] rosado or his designee he met.
[2:47:43] >> I can introduce him and we can answer questions but
[2:47:48] we have an employee who was terminated in february of
[2:47:52] 2020 pursuant to collective targeting agreement he
[2:47:55] challenge the termination with the grievance and
[2:47:58] arbitration process.
[2:47:59] the arbitrator sided with his former office later the
[2:48:03] officer to reinstate him and make him whole.
[2:48:07] we entered a settlement agreement and the officer
[2:48:10] agrees to separate from employment effective september
[2:48:13] 30th of 2021.
[2:48:15] the total amount due is 238,112 dollars and that
[2:48:19] includes the position that is budgeted in this fiscal
[2:48:23] year as well as a budget amendment to request from the
[2:48:28] general fund balance in the amount of wood and
[2:48:32] $19,400.47 I do want to say on record that we do have
[2:48:37] some money set aside and restrict reserves however we
[2:48:41] only need $119,400 $0.47.
[2:48:43] chief?
[2:48:43] >>.[indiscernable] thank you.
[2:48:44] we spoke to each one of you and gave you a full
[2:48:50] briefing on what happened with this case from start to
[2:48:54] finish. In a nutshellwhat I would feel free to say at
[2:48:59] this point is this month makes six years since I've
[2:49:03] been here.
[2:49:04] when I arrived with his agency it was a fractured toxic
[2:49:09] environment.
[2:49:10] we had several if you will problem individuals that we
[2:49:14] needed to corral and address and work on.
[2:49:18] this particular case, like I said, there was an
[2:49:22] internal affairs investigation which was substantiated
[2:49:24] and there was enough there for us to go ahead and
[2:49:29] terminate peer this was recommended by our labor
[2:49:33] attorney back in to 15 after he reviewed the case and
[2:49:38] the findings of the investigation.
[2:49:40] at that point, myself and the ia investigator at the
[2:49:44] time were let go from the village for a period of time.
[2:49:49] attempts to complete the termination were blocked by
[2:49:53] the admits ration and by the commission at the time.
[2:49:57] when I arrived back that matter was still pending.
[2:50:01] I contacted everybody I needed to including the fdl e
[2:50:06] who made it very clear that it was our obligation to
[2:50:11] complete the investigation and that was also to provide
[2:50:15] fdl e with a copy of the report.
[2:50:18] shortly after the investigation was complete or the
[2:50:22] process was finished, we went ahead and proceeded with
[2:50:26] the termination and the arbitration did not go our way.
[2:50:30] I can comment with the findings of the arbitration and
[2:50:35] my opinions of the arbitration but ultimately the
[2:50:38] arbitrator ruled with the pba in that case. We have
[2:50:43] been very successful with every employment labor matter
[2:50:46] since we arrived here and that was through lawsuits and
[2:50:51] other mediums but this arbitration went sideways on us
[2:50:55] and that was something we could not control.
[2:50:58] ultimately, this officer had committed violations which
[2:51:01] violated our core values which basically violated our
[2:51:05] rules of ethics and morals and it was our position that
[2:51:10] he could not come back in any way shape or form for
[2:51:15] this agency.
[2:51:16] in our briefing to you all we explained rfid on that in
[2:51:21] the background information that we had.
[2:51:24] we made a recommendation to try to find a way to reach
[2:51:29] a settlement.
[2:51:30] we did.
[2:51:31] our attorneys all worked hard to reach a settlement
[2:51:35] that we felt was fair and beneficial to the village.
[2:51:39] that is where we are at.
[2:51:42] carla do you want to comment further on this?
[2:51:46] at the end of the day we are trying to change a culture
[2:51:52] peered we have been very successful in showing people
[2:51:56] the door that needed to be shown the door and very
[2:52:01] successful at bringing people here to our agency that
[2:52:04] are going to take us to where we need to be as a police
[2:52:11] department that is pursuing excellence and the person I
[2:52:15] introduced earlier the new officer that we hired is a
[2:52:19] great example of that. I highly recommend that the
[2:52:23] commission approved this and I am willing to answer any
[2:52:28] questions you might have on this but I think in the
[2:52:32] briefing that I provided each one of you I was very
[2:52:37] thorough and comprehensive and I believe a passionate
[2:52:41] as well.
[2:52:42] >> thank you.
[2:52:43] we do know this is a sensitive matter and it is an
[2:52:48] unfortunate incident matter because what I get from you
[2:52:52] and what would be fair is to be very open and
[2:52:57] completely transparent about all the things that have
[2:53:01] transpired anything that would be a better service to
[2:53:05] residents then sometimes the situations we and up in we
[2:53:09] need circumstances.
[2:53:10] I do have a question in way to provide transparency for
[2:53:15] residents as to why their tax dollars are being paid
[2:53:19] out in a situation like this.
[2:53:22] how much, if any information is it possible to provide
[2:53:26] the public on the events that transpired that led to
[2:53:31] this outcome?
[2:53:32] >> let me ask the deputy chief to come out here but in
[2:53:37] essence this is a proactive investigation and integrity
[2:53:41] test that was conducted by the police department based
[2:53:45] on information we have the integrity investigation
[2:53:48] revealed that the officer in question was willing to
[2:53:52] violate several focal principles and there were
[2:53:55] approximately two dozen violations that were
[2:53:58] substantiated bringing him back at any capacity would
[2:54:01] expose the village.
[2:54:03] any action that he took as a police officer if he came
[2:54:08] back provide significant exposure to the village in the
[2:54:12] extent that the deputy chief and I made several phone
[2:54:16] calls to agency heads that really governed law
[2:54:20] enforcement and fdl e to the miami ethics commission to
[2:54:24] run this case by them and they all felt the same way
[2:54:30] that this officer presented a significant liability to
[2:54:33] the village and we had to find a solution to not bring
[2:54:39] him back in spite of the arbitration rule in which I
[2:54:43] have like I said my own personal opinions on the ruling
[2:54:48] and it was extremely flawed.
[2:54:50] >> is the arbitration ruling in a matter of record?
[2:54:55] >> it is.
[2:54:56] >> we can speak openly about that?
[2:54:59] >> so is the investigation.
[2:55:02] we can speak openly about it because the investigation
[2:55:06] is concluded and the arbitration is public record.
[2:55:09] >> that's goodbecause I wasn't sure about that.
[2:55:13] >> whether you want to go into all the details.
[2:55:17] >> I don't want to.
[2:55:19] the point I would like to make is that the arbitration
[2:55:24] because people want to know why we are paying out
[2:55:29] $119,000 of taxpayer money.
[2:55:30] >> the arbitration found his due process was violated.
[2:55:34] we obviously know that the notice and the notices of
[2:55:39] termination and all of the little goal obstacles that
[2:55:43] chief noriega experience that prevented this from going
[2:55:46] forward, we know there were reasons for that.
[2:55:50] the judge found it it would be a violation of his due
[2:55:55] process.
[2:55:56] >> the arbitrator?
[2:55:57] >> we have mandatory arbitration.
[2:55:59] there's nothing we can do.
[2:56:01] >> essentially.
[2:56:02] >> there was a 20 month process and the officer was
[2:56:07] notified of the termination.
[2:56:09] >> the issue, to put in a nutshell is that this
[2:56:14] investigation of wrongdoing which there was evidence
[2:56:17] was not pursued in the time that you are not the chief
[2:56:22] of police at north bay village and because of that we
[2:56:27] were unable to terminate the officer based on the
[2:56:31] findings which lead experts to conclude that this
[2:56:34] individual could not be a police officer on duty.
[2:56:38] >> yes.
[2:56:39] that length of time that went by was the due process
[2:56:44] part that the commissioner was referring to. The 14
[2:56:48] months I was gone when I return there was a pending
[2:56:53] lawsuit.
[2:56:54] he filed a lawsuit because based on his actions he was
[2:56:58] skipped on the promotional exam which I had the
[2:57:02] discretion to do under the current contract.
[2:57:05] he filed an age just termination lawsuit and basically
[2:57:09] that lawsuit was dismissed and we won that case and
[2:57:14] that lawsuit and after the lawsuit was concluded we
[2:57:18] proceeded with the termination.
[2:57:20] the reason we did not terminate upon my return 14
[2:57:24] months later because the lawsuit was still pending and
[2:57:28] the attorney assigned to the case from the village
[2:57:32] recommended that we conclude the lawsuit before we did
[2:57:36] any action against the employee and that delayed the
[2:57:40] process.
[2:57:40] that 20 month period is what the arbitrator found to be
[2:57:45] a due process issue that they found to be unfair for
[2:57:50] the employee.
[2:57:51] and again, that was outside of our control.
[2:57:55] it happened under the previous administration or couple
[2:57:58] admits rations previously and previous commission.
[2:58:01] as a matter of fact, they failed to take any action
[2:58:06] that was recommended and they failed to meet the
[2:58:10] standards that the state required be met for
[2:58:13] substantiated internal affairs cases.
[2:58:15] >> I'm ready to move on.
[2:58:18] >> were dealing with legacy issues.
[2:58:20] >> we have to clean up the whole mess.
[2:58:24] >> I will make a motion.
[2:58:27] >> we have a motion and a second from the vice mayor.
[2:58:32] let's vote.
[2:58:33] >> commissioner richard chervony? Yes vice mayor
[2:58:36] marvin wilmoth?
[2:58:37] yes commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
[2:58:40] julianna strout? Yes mayor brent latham? Yes mayor,
[2:58:43] motion carries.
[2:58:44] >>okay, 14 b 2 dr. Ralph rosado we give us an update?
[2:58:49] >> absolutely.
[2:58:50] the first several slides is consistent to the
[2:58:54] information you have heard before so I will probably
[2:58:58] skim through those but the idea is we want to have a
[2:59:03] document that we could put out publicly that walks the
[2:59:08] public through the focus will be on the slides that we
[2:59:13] will go parcel by parcel and update we are.
[2:59:17] were talking about the island walk in this particular
[2:59:20] case and we are referring to the perimeter of the
[2:59:25] northern portion of treasure island.
[2:59:27] we have a lovely photo of benihana along the walkway.
[2:59:32] in the case of benihana, I can go ahead and start this
[2:59:37] and we will catch up to the images paired we talk about
[2:59:42] the island walk we are essentially talking about two
[2:59:46] things in many cases hid the aboveground walkway with
[2:59:50] lush landscaping and benches and a righty of
[2:59:54] recreational amenities but were also talking about the
[2:59:57] seawall that buttresses them.
[2:59:59] will create the front variations throughout the
[3:00:02] presentation but the reality is it is both things.
[3:00:06] the reason why we featured benihana on the covered
[3:00:10] delay cover is it is the only segment that has a
[3:00:15] brand-new seawall that meets our new design criteria as
[3:00:19] well as having an island walk above it that doesn't
[3:00:23] quite meet the current design criteria but nonetheless
[3:00:27] unlikely to change because it is fully flushed out.
[3:00:31] so, you have another image of the rear a daytime shot
[3:00:36] of the area behind benihana as well as the rendering of
[3:00:41] the master plan of what it could look like if fully
[3:00:45] built out.
[3:00:46] again, and going to race through the first few because
[3:00:51] you've heard a similar variation before.
[3:00:53] there's a variety of reasons that make sense to support
[3:00:58] the overall project.
[3:00:59] it is a public amenity that the public can enjoy all
[3:01:04] year-round. We talked earlier about ranting and this
[3:01:08] could definitely help us brand the village. This can
[3:01:12] bring folks into the village where they can spend hard
[3:01:16] earned dollars locally and provides space of the public
[3:01:20] paired there's place for public art and we talked about
[3:01:24] the environment this evening, dolphins are now
[3:01:28] officially part of our logo and not something you can
[3:01:32] see if you're fortunate to be your any of these
[3:01:36] properties and from a financial perspective all of
[3:01:40] these things individually or collectively these enhance
[3:01:43] property values in the community.
[3:01:45] the next few slides are going to go through quickly.
[3:01:50] we've never done a full benefit cost analysis of the
[3:01:54] financial value of doing the island walk but we know
[3:01:59] based on comparable projects it's very good for
[3:02:02] property values and investments you make in
[3:02:05] infrastructure and helping to preserve properties are
[3:02:08] certainly incredibly valuable and we recognize that
[3:02:11] also it helps to attract real estate investment so pays
[3:02:16] for itself not only in the long run but in the short
[3:02:21] run see if we can move forward.
[3:02:24] and so, we looked at two studies one being done at the
[3:02:30] macarthur causeway and the other through miami-dade
[3:02:33] county and it shows that these things pay for
[3:02:37] themselves within just a few years.
[3:02:39] okay. From a more technical perspective we have abby
[3:02:43] wilson who's been working with us very closely on the
[3:02:48] seawall is been done to date so if you have any
[3:02:52] technical questions I would absolutely yield to abby
[3:02:56] who is available via zoom. Abby, are you there?
[3:03:00] is she a muted?
[3:03:02] okay, >> sorry.
[3:03:03] I didn't know I could unmute myself.
[3:03:06] >> not a problem.
[3:03:08] we already know the value of doing this as an
[3:03:12] attraction and economic element driver but we also had
[3:03:16] her do some research on benefit cost analysis for
[3:03:20] improving seawall's.
[3:03:21] leno that is a structural concern and something that
[3:03:25] should be done over time.
[3:03:27] think I'm going to have her walk us through this but we
[3:03:33] did a boat tour, we looked at seawall heights ended
[3:03:37] projections for the value of renovating the seawall
[3:03:41] along the perimeter and what would be to preserve
[3:03:45] property values given sealevel rise.
[3:03:47] if you want to run through some of the numbers that you
[3:03:52] all prepared?
[3:03:53] should.
[3:03:54] >> sure.
[3:03:54] I guess starting on this slide we took a look at what
[3:04:00] the seawall czar and who is the worst offender and what
[3:04:05] that means in terms of impact, if they are not raised,
[3:04:10] what kind of impacts can the village expect to see both
[3:04:14] from a building perspective but also from an overall
[3:04:18] perspective.
[3:04:19] due to lower seawall's allow the water to come into the
[3:04:24] causeway and increase flooding?
[3:04:25] those are some of the items we look at when doing these
[3:04:31] high-level benefit cost analysis.
[3:04:33] that's just a caveat.
[3:04:34] we talk about the benefit cost analysis is a very
[3:04:39] specific process that goes pretty in-depth line by line
[3:04:43] and that was that first initial look to see what the
[3:04:48] village is getting in terms of is it really worth it
[3:04:52] for the village to put this money?
[3:04:56] what are the benefits they are getting from it from a
[3:05:00] high level perspective.
[3:05:02] if you would like to move on to the next slide we can
[3:05:07] run through a couple. These are a couple photos from
[3:05:12] the existing wall.
[3:05:13] you can see any harness wall and this is nice and high
[3:05:19] but then we have the wall I do believe the top right
[3:05:24] picture is near the channel 7 property and this is just
[3:05:29] east of 1725 the bottom picture to the property on the
[3:05:34] right of the wall is 1725 kennedy and then this is in
[3:05:39] that parking lot.
[3:05:40] near the best western, I do believe.
[3:05:43] that wall had failed at one point in time and I know
[3:05:49] there's flooding in that location, currently.
[3:05:51] those are some of the items we look at when we look at
[3:05:57] the various wall and what is there currently.
[3:06:01] so, we did a quick review of the survey data that we
[3:06:06] previously collected during our design criteria package
[3:06:09] that we had put together for the village and we went
[3:06:14] parcel by parcel looking at their current seawall
[3:06:17] elevations and this was the lowest point of the
[3:06:21] seawall.
[3:06:22] we did not take an average but with that lowest point
[3:06:27] it does allow water to enter the site.
[3:06:30] we looked at the current state based on the highest
[3:06:35] king tied on record.
[3:06:36] this doesn't just look at the storm surge it looks at
[3:06:41] king tied even.
[3:06:43] there are two properties, these two right here that
[3:06:47] already get flooded during king tied events.
[3:06:50] we start to look at sealevel rise and projecting out to
[3:06:55] 2040 not just in the future but less than 20 years in
[3:07:00] the future with the current sealevel rise prediction
[3:07:03] you notice there's a whole lot more properties sitting
[3:07:07] below the threshold of the king tied. If you look
[3:07:12] outto 20 7050 years from now all but six properties
[3:07:16] really don't meet that threshold benihana and the other
[3:07:20] one is right here.
[3:07:22] this almost meets that criteria but is about 20 inches
[3:07:27] higher.
[3:07:27] if you look at a property of its flooded what kind of
[3:07:32] economic impact does that have?
[3:07:34] the various king tied events we looked at 2040 this
[3:07:39] puts a loss of $10 million.
[3:07:42] how we did that, if the property was deemed to be
[3:07:46] flooded by an event we looked at the assessed value
[3:07:51] obviously understand we went with a large overview with
[3:07:55] the public data that was available from the public
[3:07:59] appraiser's office. This was a way to not automated
[3:08:03] but standardize it we looked at the assessed value.
[3:08:07] we assumed there would be a 25 percent value loss for
[3:08:12] any property that was flooded during king tied.
[3:08:15] obviously the whole building is not impacted it does
[3:08:19] cause some issues.
[3:08:20] in the 2040 event for those properties that were
[3:08:24] flooded we assume there is a 25 percent impact on those
[3:08:29] property values and we came up with a value from there.
[3:08:34] that is why we are at nine point 45 rounded up to 10
[3:08:40] million.
[3:08:40] these are conservative number values but they don't
[3:08:44] take into account specifics like infrastructure or
[3:08:47] dollar losses associated with that loss.
[3:08:50] just saying benihana for a restaurant if they are
[3:08:54] interrupted service all the days they are lost and
[3:08:58] revenue lost during those services we are not taking
[3:09:02] into account.
[3:09:03] the sisterly from the infrastructure perspective.
[3:09:05] and also, two, one thing to note these properties
[3:09:09] generate tax revenue in north bay village between one
[3:09:13] quarter million to half a million annually new
[3:09:17] developments that come along north of kennedy
[3:09:20] especially with those higher density allowances and
[3:09:23] relaxed height restrictions allow the tax revenue to
[3:09:26] increase dramatically but then also comes back into
[3:09:30] what are the economic impacts of a higher value
[3:09:34] building? Really protecting those properties moving
[3:09:37] forward is best in everyone's economic endeavors.
[3:09:40] let's go on to the next slide.
[3:09:43] >> I can take it.
[3:09:45] by all means feel free to chime in.
[3:09:49] this is an important slide talk about what is happened
[3:09:53] this year.
[3:09:54] although we haven't had this item on the agenda we've
[3:09:58] made progress in a variety of things including
[3:10:02] establishing design criteria for seawall's in the
[3:10:05] village and the island walk specifically for this area.
[3:10:09] we did not have consistent standards before and I think
[3:10:13] we all realize that folks are building seawalls a
[3:10:17] different height with different materials without
[3:10:20] consistency and we now have a specific high standards
[3:10:24] which could help properties for many years to come and
[3:10:28] that's very important.
[3:10:30] in addition the commissioner this year adopted a design
[3:10:34] criteria for the island walk and now we have
[3:10:38] consistency in design.
[3:10:39] we didn't have it before.
[3:10:41] many buildings have it in arrears the easements are
[3:10:45] difference in the look is completely unrelated from
[3:10:49] property to property and they aren't even joining the
[3:10:53] adjacent properties that they developed. We now have
[3:10:56] clear expectations some folks would like to go above
[3:11:00] and beyond that we at least have these minimums that
[3:11:05] are better than what's been adopted in the past so it's
[3:11:10] a huge step forward.
[3:11:11] in addition and this is big even though it seems
[3:11:16] unrelated is closely related and has had an impact on
[3:11:20] real estate in the causeway properties themselves have
[3:11:24] led to a terminus investment in a short period of time
[3:11:29] and we do have a spreadsheet that calculates revenue
[3:11:33] for the village we had $94 million of property sales on
[3:11:37] the causeway february which is astronomical.
[3:11:40] what that does is shows faith in leadership which is
[3:11:45] very important but it also means that folks are no
[3:11:49] longer deterred or perhaps scared reluctant to invest
[3:11:53] in north bay village and we know that these projects
[3:11:57] will come forward where they themselves will the bulk
[3:12:01] of the work and then finally the fourth bullet is
[3:12:05] something I put in because it's a way of been thinking
[3:12:10] about it but not necessarily characterized it the
[3:12:14] island is one project we didn't design as one thing all
[3:12:19] at one time but it is many independent projects with
[3:12:23] properties owned by individual property owners and in
[3:12:27] many cases we will have a role but it is many things
[3:12:32] being put together that collectively will result in one
[3:12:36] continuous project.
[3:12:37] more importantly, here's the part of the presentation
[3:12:40] that is key so we can talk about what the next steps
[3:12:46] really are.
[3:12:47] next slide please.
[3:12:48] these are the parcels that compose it. We have a few
[3:12:53] that are actually self of the causeway.
[3:12:56] we've got I'm going to go through these in as logical
[3:13:01] an order as possible. 17 is grandview palace and as
[3:13:05] you know three of the property has been ill for many
[3:13:10] years and we don't excite to see changes there.
[3:13:14] 16 a cell plaza which was completed about two years ago
[3:13:19] at this point and we don't expect to see changes there.
[3:13:24] the other ones all go through on the other sites we can
[3:13:29] talk about them but if we want to leave them up let's
[3:13:34] do that.
[3:13:35] I will talk about what's going on at the different
[3:13:40] properties. Number 7 is benihana there's nothing for
[3:13:43] us to do there.
[3:13:45] they meet the various standards, etc.
[3:13:48] nothing needs to be done moving forward.
[3:13:51] the second type of property south grandview palace
[3:13:54] there seawall is not as high as we would like but
[3:13:59] there's no expectation that that will change anytime
[3:14:03] soon and we do have public access but there.
[3:14:07] the third type of property is that reflected by bayview
[3:14:11] condominium number 6 on the screen here bridgewater
[3:14:15] condominium which is number 13 on the screen these were
[3:14:19] built approximately 15 years ago. They built some
[3:14:23] version of the island walk and in both cases is not as
[3:14:28] wide, lush or amenity rich as we would like.
[3:14:32] it is not the criteria and there seawall are in good
[3:14:37] shape and there's probably not going to be any change
[3:14:41] on them for the foreseeable future.
[3:14:44] the other property is north plaza that is owned by fdo
[3:14:49] t for which we have a long-term lease and we have an
[3:14:54] agenda item from january to show you the design that
[3:14:58] was more circulated more recently than that because we
[3:15:02] do have a full draft and that's one where we are
[3:15:07] responsible.
[3:15:08] we have a sizable grant from fdo t and next year we
[3:15:13] should apply for a grant to help match that because the
[3:15:18] project is expected because between 1.3 and 1.6
[3:15:21] million.
[3:15:22] design is underway and permitting will be underway and
[3:15:26] construction could be underway as soon as next october.
[3:15:30] >> is that to do the seawall?
[3:15:33] >> we don't have funding for the seawall. It does not
[3:15:38] meet our design criteria but nonetheless we don't
[3:15:41] expect to change it.
[3:15:43] it is in relatively good shape even though the we don't
[3:15:48] have an interest in doing that. There's no flooding
[3:15:52] there or any of those issues.
[3:15:55] the next type of property component we have to deal
[3:15:59] with is number 15 the connection under the bridges and
[3:16:04] for different reasons we've had to hold off on that
[3:16:08] because were the only agency interested in putting
[3:16:11] money on that.
[3:16:13] we do have some grant funding but it is also grant
[3:16:18] funding or other funding that competes with other park
[3:16:22] related priorities.
[3:16:23] there's always been something else whether it's the dog
[3:16:27] park where we need those dollars to do something over
[3:16:31] there.
[3:16:31] this is one that we can move forward with at this time
[3:16:37] we can hire a firm and move forward with the design and
[3:16:42] get that underway and there's no particular rush to do
[3:16:46] construction which is more expensive and there's no
[3:16:50] rush to do construction anytime soon but we do have
[3:16:54] design dollars for that.
[3:16:56] property type number 6 is parcel number 11 which is
[3:17:01] best western which has been in a state of flux as the
[3:17:06] mayor has mentioned over the last couple of years where
[3:17:10] they propose to do one kind of project and then another
[3:17:15] and it's changed back and forth.
[3:17:18] we have never had an easement over the rear of best
[3:17:23] western peer to don't have that presently. Thatsaid it
[3:17:27] looks like they are finally moving forward with some
[3:17:31] sort of redevelopment plan which in one case we could
[3:17:35] require the easement to be in place but it doesn't
[3:17:40] appear that any grant dollars or anything would be
[3:17:44] needed from the village because the rear of the
[3:17:48] property is built out.
[3:17:49] what would happen is we would have access over the rear
[3:17:54] deck of the restaurant and the tables would need to be
[3:17:59] configured a little bit and it does appear we have a
[3:18:04] financial role in this but for site plan approval you
[3:18:08] all have access to it so we will be contiguous.
[3:18:13] so far except for the under bridge part in north plaza
[3:18:18] haven't talked about anything the village has to pay
[3:18:22] money and that could also be with a few other
[3:18:26] instances.
[3:18:26] there is a large type of property cohort which includes
[3:18:31] properties one through five which are now under
[3:18:34] singular ownership or before these were comprised of
[3:18:38] different entities and everybody had different plans
[3:18:41] and was not moving forward and it was difficult to get
[3:18:46] anything done.
[3:18:47] that is no longer the case.
[3:18:49] the company that owns a tv station but multiple lots
[3:18:54] adjacent to them. In fact I meeting with them in a
[3:18:59] couple days to go over what the process looks like.
[3:19:03] they have not defined what they are going to build but
[3:19:08] give 10 waterfront acres in the village and they will
[3:19:13] probably do multiple buildings and were very supportive
[3:19:16] of the project and it's a very different posture than
[3:19:20] they had a couple years ago were they said build a
[3:19:25] project anywhere except on the tv station.
[3:19:28] they did not have access to the rear because they were
[3:19:33] tv station and they were sensitive to having pete will
[3:19:38] on the property but that is no longer the issue peer
[3:19:43] the tv station will move to broward in which the
[3:19:47] building disappears and they have a lengthy walk.
[3:19:51] they are one third of the entire project they are
[3:19:55] moving forward and we can get this done were
[3:19:59] essentially they are doing the heavy lifting and we
[3:20:03] have an easement agreement for parcel one and the other
[3:20:07] we have agreements with.
[3:20:09] the other parcels that will be redeveloped and one has
[3:20:14] come with the site plan actually they both come with a
[3:20:18] site plan but one of them is making major revision some
[3:20:23] minor revisions but we expect one to be on the planning
[3:20:28] and zoning agenda on that is parcel number 10 the
[3:20:33] overflow parking lot near shockers.
[3:20:35] again up with a project and they came up with the
[3:20:40] island walk and we will follow the design to atn this
[3:20:45] is one that will be built.
[3:20:47] they have approached us to be their partner. This is
[3:20:52] one where we have a large public and private
[3:20:56] relationship that will move forward.
[3:20:58] the way this would work is we would have to enter into
[3:21:03] an agreement have a sample on the agenda package the
[3:21:08] shows we will work with them. We are the grant
[3:21:12] recipient and the grant can't go directly to the public
[3:21:16] party wu are the lead in that sense.
[3:21:20] the matching dollars involved could completely come
[3:21:23] from the private entity.
[3:21:25] they are saving the cost of design and ultimately
[3:21:29] crating their own seawall and we would have to make
[3:21:33] sure that design is something that will not flood.
[3:21:37] ideally because of this involved we would reimburse the
[3:21:41] backend at the grant and along the way we could have
[3:21:46] payments from the private property owner.
[3:21:49] this puts us in a good position where ultimately we
[3:21:53] could get our money back.
[3:21:55] the project is filled the grants are closed out and we
[3:22:00] have a large section that is completed. That's also
[3:22:04] the case of the property to the immediate west which is
[3:22:09] graded out of a firm out of new york that both the
[3:22:14] parcel earlier this year.
[3:22:16] they are moving a little slower and they are creating
[3:22:21] more revisions and I reached out to them today to see
[3:22:26] where they are at in the process, have they slow down
[3:22:30] the project, where are they coming in but they say they
[3:22:35] will create the design criteria and they're happy to
[3:22:39] partner.
[3:22:40] it just depends where they are in the process but they
[3:22:45] are comparable.
[3:22:45] >> let me ask you a question.
[3:22:49] what me stop you there. I have a question about the
[3:22:53] logic of that.
[3:22:55] I get why the developers would want the grant money to
[3:23:00] build a seawall and the island walk it makes sense but
[3:23:04] I don't think the village loses anything except some
[3:23:08] grant application time in terms of making that happen.
[3:23:12] that seems fine.
[3:23:14] by our code they are already obligated to do these
[3:23:18] things.
[3:23:19] if they want to build their buildings they have to
[3:23:23] provide an island walk they seawall at the cove.
[3:23:27] that's an argument of why would the village do
[3:23:31] anything?
[3:23:31] we have to spent staff time and commission to make it
[3:23:36] happen but certainly why would the village front the
[3:23:40] money take any risk?
[3:23:42] there is some risk there by don't understand the logic.
[3:23:47] >> there is some risk.
[3:23:49] if you decide to move forward we could figure out a way
[3:23:54] to-
[3:23:55] >>mitigate?
[3:23:55] >> I'm going to say this as easy as possible but maybe
[3:24:01] some additional concessions?
[3:24:02] >> it would have to be worth our while.
[3:24:06] there would have to be significant concessions in there
[3:24:10] because were talking millions of dollars.
[3:24:13] I think you understand.
[3:24:14] >> okay.
[3:24:15] number 12 and this is one where there's more of a
[3:24:20] reason for us to get involved but number 12 is kennedy
[3:24:25] house.
[3:24:25] we don't have an agreement there and is unlikely we
[3:24:30] should have.
[3:24:31] they are under an issue where there seawall is not up
[3:24:36] to code. Having done the building audit they have to
[3:24:40] renovate their seawall.
[3:24:41] reno they need funding and they would like to be
[3:24:46] subsidized and as part of that we would require the
[3:24:50] easement agreement that would give us access to the
[3:24:54] rear of the property.
[3:24:56] otherwise they would break up the continuity.
[3:24:59] I don't know if I need to ask lane anything there but
[3:25:04] I'm hoping in the next two commission meetings we come
[3:25:09] into agreement where we could be a partner on this
[3:25:13] otherwise if they paid for everything on their own they
[3:25:18] have no obligation to give us access.
[3:25:21] this is one where it made more of a difference and I
[3:25:26] hear you on the other one where the still room to
[3:25:31] negotiate.
[3:25:31] >> and, the people are our constituents the developers
[3:25:35] are not the people are.
[3:25:38] that makes me happy to go through that process of
[3:25:42] getting that grant money.
[3:25:44] >> it sounds like a great opportunity.
[3:25:47] >> they have to do this.
[3:25:50] finally, last parcel which I refer to it often is the
[3:25:54] whole in the dona and it won't take much beyond that is
[3:26:00] the former broadband building more or less across the
[3:26:04] street.
[3:26:04] we don't know what they're doing.
[3:26:07] we never had reached an agreement with them am under
[3:26:11] the current configuration they are built to the rear
[3:26:15] property line and it's like a private terrace.
[3:26:19] it's unclear what they are doing, I hear it is in a
[3:26:24] state of flux.
[3:26:25] they would have to go out into the water which is far
[3:26:31] more complicated and much more expensive.
[3:26:33] we greatly hope this is not the case.
[3:26:37] finally, on the last slide we will skip through the
[3:26:41] other ones but those were slides we already went
[3:26:45] through with the individual properties.
[3:26:48] if you what to go through the individual presentation I
[3:26:52] would be happy to go into detail or not but there is a
[3:26:58] range between abby and her firm who prepared a high and
[3:27:03] low range for each of the different components.
[3:27:06] we have combined together a seawall and island walk,
[3:27:10] the north plaza the under bridge connectors and for
[3:27:14] planning design and permitting purposes and broke it
[3:27:18] out as well in terms of construction.
[3:27:21] the very bottom total cost is for doing the most
[3:27:25] elaborate version of each of these and going back into
[3:27:30] the building where they have a version and the very
[3:27:34] high end of this project is not going to be anywhere
[3:27:39] near this. I wanted to give you all sort of what that
[3:27:44] looked with an overall total. You can see the grant
[3:27:49] that we have for the different things and if we were
[3:27:53] putting in dollars for the things we need to put in for
[3:27:59] which we don't have outside funding investment is not
[3:28:03] that terrible it's about half $1 million overall.
[3:28:06] that is the under bridge and no one gets a dollars for
[3:28:12] that, so on and so forth.
[3:28:14] the vast majority is funded by grants and private
[3:28:18] property owners.
[3:28:19] >> we would be getting some money resume a bully for
[3:28:24] the bridge for example?
[3:28:26] >> correct.
[3:28:27] >> I know that was a lot of information.
[3:28:31] >> essentially what it comes down to is yes.
[3:28:35] the path of least resents fleet resistance of this
[3:28:39] happening and for private investors to build it where
[3:28:43] we can help them through our access to funds we would
[3:28:47] be willing under circumstances to work with the village
[3:28:51] and attempt to do that.
[3:28:54] >> are we also helping private developers by moving
[3:28:58] forward with design and permitting of the template of
[3:29:02] the island walk?
[3:29:03] >> by what?
[3:29:04] >> the template. We have the design criteria and our
[3:29:09] standards?
[3:29:09] >> is reimbursable from rent as well.
[3:29:12] >> of her moving forward with getting the
[3:29:16] conceptpermitted, is that correct?
[3:29:18] >>no.
[3:29:18] they are all different.
[3:29:20] we are not designing the whole thing for everybody
[3:29:24] paired we can work with them in segments but even the
[3:29:29] first several parcels they want to do a design that is
[3:29:34] different than the design criteria that exceeds it.
[3:29:37] if we give them something they're not going to design
[3:29:42] is somehow wasted. Were not putting out something that
[3:29:45] we could actually pull permits for.
[3:29:48] these are individual properties and in many cases this
[3:29:52] is what it is and it's okay, it's fine but in some
[3:29:57] cases there's nothing likely to change.
[3:30:00] the instances where there is a role for us, they are
[3:30:05] fewer then what they were years ago.
[3:30:08] we no longer have to do that.
[3:30:11] thanks to leadership.
[3:30:12] a lot of these projects are moving forward on their
[3:30:17] own.
[3:30:17] we had this conversation last year and was like us
[3:30:22] having to take on this massive project.
[3:30:25] >> there was a point at which things aren't moving in
[3:30:30] the seawall is an issue so we could feasibly through
[3:30:34] great effort go to great lengths convince party by
[3:30:38] party all of them or many of them to get on board to
[3:30:44] allowing us to do something with some sort of future
[3:30:48] concession from them when they rebuild that would have
[3:30:52] made this happen as a complete public project.
[3:30:56] two things have happened.
[3:30:58] I think that dr.
[3:30:59] ralph rosado has it in his presentation but number 1
[3:31:04] that was always going to be logistically complicated
[3:31:07] and number 2, organically, the path, would call it the
[3:31:12] s path at the best path of least resistance has changed
[3:31:17] because of the interest in developing these properties
[3:31:20] which has become very real over the last 12 to 18
[3:31:25] months.
[3:31:26] really the last 12 months.
[3:31:28] >> it was coming before the pandemic more slowly and it
[3:31:33] has been more torrent the last year. The best way to
[3:31:37] do it is to let it happen organically.
[3:31:41] and to help them where we can.
[3:31:44] >> may I add one thing onto that?
[3:31:48] I would say the work that you guys did as the village
[3:31:53] commission looking at those code modifications in order
[3:31:57] to get that seawall into your post to get the island
[3:32:01] walk right here into your code and now requires a
[3:32:06] development to pay for that on their own versus prior
[3:32:10] to that being codified we wouldn't have to do that and
[3:32:15] then you would be back in that initial position.
[3:32:19] really one that you did early last year prior to them
[3:32:24] coming in with all the new development coming in you
[3:32:28] really were ahead of the game and you put yourself in
[3:32:33] that position to really have the developers do the work
[3:32:38] for you instead of you doing the heavy lifting.
[3:32:42] >> I was going to say essentially the same thing. I
[3:32:47] know when we talk about design criteria it's one of
[3:32:51] those things where people say this is so boring but it
[3:32:56] was so important to do.
[3:32:58] we work together to create the easements and site plan
[3:33:02] arrangements for treasure island in harbour island and
[3:33:06] they are all over the place where nothing would match
[3:33:10] up and there was no consistency on anything.
[3:33:14] it wasn't even just one project at the end of the day
[3:33:19] it was a bunch of unrelated things going on.
[3:33:23] having one set of criteria raises standards and we know
[3:33:28] were getting something special.
[3:33:29] that was really important but it seemed wonky but it
[3:33:34] made a huge difference.
[3:33:36] >> the question. I just sat in his chair for the
[3:33:41] boardwalk in the bay walk I'm sitting in this chair for
[3:33:45] the island walk.
[3:33:47] how are you going to convince me that I'm finally gonna
[3:33:52] see some thing?
[3:33:53] this is all a dream.
[3:33:55] >> to that I would say across the street we don't have
[3:34:00] to look too far, this was built last year.
[3:34:04] >> benihana could be here for 50 years and then moved
[3:34:09] next door and then build the boardwalk but what is
[3:34:14] going to build the rest of the boardwalk?
[3:34:17] >> we have two site plans.
[3:34:20] >> we literally developed many of those properties and
[3:34:24] so look, I understand where you're coming from I'm also
[3:34:28] a will see it and I believe it kind of guy but and we
[3:34:35] will see if this pans out.
[3:34:37] >> if we see site plans for anyone he of those
[3:34:42] companies except for channel 7, they been expired some
[3:34:46] two or three times.
[3:34:48] it is not a site plan, let's get a damn shovel in the
[3:34:54] ground and let's go!
[3:34:55] >> commissioner I will say it's a new day north a
[3:35:00] village.
[3:35:01] >> the commission is right.
[3:35:03] he'll believe it when he sees it.
[3:35:06] we've seen a lot of things already in the last three
[3:35:11] years the people say wouldn't happen and so, let's keep
[3:35:15] the faith.
[3:35:16] I will.
[3:35:17] it's not easy.
[3:35:18] there's a lot that goes into the stuff. Each one of
[3:35:23] these guys is investing $100 million or more.
[3:35:27] the proof is in the pudding but people have bought
[3:35:31] these properties.
[3:35:32] dr. Ralph rosado said he's moving with the channel 7
[3:35:36] folks and they spent $100 million to buy properties not
[3:35:41] to sit on them and they are all on board with the
[3:35:46] project walk.
[3:35:47] >> some of these master plans project managers are
[3:35:51] pretty significant. I met with them a couple of times.
[3:35:56] >> I don't think you will see a single segment of the
[3:36:01] building.
[3:36:01] >>.[indiscernable]
[3:36:02] >> okay.
[3:36:03] >>.[indiscernable] I know for a fact,
[3:36:05] that.[indiscernable] I know for a fact that bayview
[3:36:09] their pool is far back and will block the bay walk and
[3:36:14] we have to look at how we will have to look around
[3:36:19] bayview.
[3:36:20] the other buildings won't be built for another three
[3:36:24] years.
[3:36:24] >> it takes a couple years to build things.
[3:36:28] >> I would love to see them started.
[3:36:32] >> okay. Well, we will see.
[3:36:34] next time will tell.
[3:36:36] >> what else do we have?
[3:36:39] >> that's it.
[3:36:40] >> you just wanted to update us?
[3:36:43] >> yes.
[3:36:44] >> folks ask about the project and there's been a lot
[3:36:49] of individual things going on and we have them all in
[3:36:54] one place.
[3:36:55] >> would be a good idea to explain things in a nutshell
[3:37:00] so when people ask they can understand what the vision
[3:37:05] is?
[3:37:05] all right was talk about under grounding.
[3:37:08] give a 10 page presentation for this?
[3:37:11] >> it is only seven slides.
[3:37:14] no, no slide presentation.
[3:37:16] >> I would actually like to save us some time, under
[3:37:21] grounding of utilities for new construction in the
[3:37:24] proposal to require a private property of owners to
[3:37:28] take on this expense is not a small thing.
[3:37:32] I would like to instruct the manager to get some
[3:37:36] feedback from the development community and provide us
[3:37:40] with an eight once they've gotten that feedback.
[3:37:44] >> sure.
[3:37:44] I wanted to update the commissioner because we had
[3:37:48] spoke and there's one person that many of us have
[3:37:53] relied upon for construction cost information.
[3:37:55] I spoke to paul murphy and he said right of the bat
[3:38:01] it's 1.5 percent of construction cost which is helpful.
[3:38:05] he was not against it in any way shape or form.
[3:38:10] >> right. Yes.
[3:38:11] not only that I had reached out to a variety of people
[3:38:16] and several of them are represented by white and sirota
[3:38:21] and this is common of them and I did notice a pattern
[3:38:26] as to what those communities are.
[3:38:29] pinecrest, surfside, coral gables are places that they
[3:38:32] have obligated from the get-go and I have information
[3:38:36] that's been standard for new single-family homes in
[3:38:40] unincorporated areas of the county that are not as
[3:38:44] affluent.
[3:38:44] >> yes, they are requiring sidewalk installations, too.
[3:38:48] okay, given that information I would support this.
[3:38:51] >> the cost for doing this becomes a resilience issue
[3:38:56] as we get stronger storms having underground utilities
[3:38:59] is going to have less of an amenity and more of a
[3:39:05] necessity.
[3:39:05] >> the other thing that is worth pointing out it's much
[3:39:10] cheaper to do this while someone is building a building
[3:39:14] instead of if they are just rectifying it.
[3:39:18] it is optimo they are digging there essentially.
[3:39:21] there are a few other cities that I reach out with
[3:39:26] arsenal information and would love to put something
[3:39:30] else or more comprehensive if there is an interest we
[3:39:34] can bring it back to you all for discussion or we can
[3:39:40] send it to planning and zoning for the recommendation.
[3:39:43] >> were basically not removing the post is just the
[3:39:48] electric connection from the post to the house will be
[3:39:52] underground?
[3:39:53] still going to have the post in the overhang wires
[3:39:57] which are in existence right now?
[3:40:00] >> there is an obligation on the private side of the
[3:40:05] equation.
[3:40:05] >> are you thinking of single-family homes which is
[3:40:09] fair enoughbut also in the case of the multifamily
[3:40:13] homes becomes a bigger deal on harbour island when you
[3:40:18] are underground and you are getting the post and lines
[3:40:22] off the street in those areas of the city.
[3:40:26] >> we are definitely looking at the lines.
[3:40:30] >> I don't know.
[3:40:31] if you're talking about the underground lines in the
[3:40:35] building it's no big deal but for talking about the
[3:40:40] electrical lines in front of the building of the
[3:40:44] street?
[3:40:44] I think we are.
[3:40:46] >>.[indiscernable]
[3:40:46] >> note now you are talking about I don't know I don't
[3:40:52] know how this goes.
[3:40:53] >> I remember the conversation we hadat pml.
[3:40:57] especially in northbay island.
[3:40:59] >> is different family home from the multifamily.
[3:41:02] >> but still, if you have one person request to have
[3:41:07] the overhang along the path you have to have it.
[3:41:12] >> can you verify that.
[3:41:14] what are we actually talking about doing here?
[3:41:17] >> okay. We will do the research on that.
[3:41:21] >> not one person in the building but one person on the
[3:41:27] line that's requested and wants over hang then you are
[3:41:31] stuck.
[3:41:31] >>,I have not heard that before but we will confirm if
[3:41:37] that is the policy.
[3:41:39] okay.
[3:41:39] >> we need more information.
[3:41:41] >> will bring you back in january with more information
[3:41:46] and we could potentially vote if you all had planning
[3:41:50] and zoning in february.
[3:41:52] >> my question is what does this look like from a
[3:41:57] mutual point of view?
[3:41:59] in the single-family neighborhoods and multifamily
[3:42:01] neighborhoods what does this mean exactly in terms of
[3:42:05] what this looks like?
[3:42:07] under grounding lines just the main power line into the
[3:42:11] multifamily building can't cost 1.5 percent of
[3:42:14] construction costs. They can'tbe what were talking
[3:42:18] about peer 1.5 percent could be of your project in just
[3:42:22] under grounding one mainline, right?
[3:42:25] were talking about more than that.
[3:42:27] >> we will reach out to some of the communities.
[3:42:32] >> does motor have theirs undergroundyuma.
[3:42:34] >> I'm not sure.
[3:42:36] I want to say yes.
[3:42:38] >>.[indiscernable]
[3:42:39] >> what sort of prompted this is obviously we know we
[3:42:44] can't use fema grant for the seawall construction like
[3:42:48] we had hoped but we still have the funding and an
[3:42:52] agenda item on how do we move forward with that if at
[3:42:58] all and there's a few different arrangements with
[3:43:01] recommendations if we move forward where do we move
[3:43:05] forward known that we don't have all the funding.
[3:43:09] in the other thing is that all the vacant parcels on
[3:43:14] harbour island have been bought up as well. In many
[3:43:19] cases they are luxury projects where it might not hurt
[3:43:23] financially as much to do this.
[3:43:26] if this is a policy in place by then by the time they
[3:43:31] come in with their side plan then is actually
[3:43:35] triggered.
[3:43:36] once they are in the pipeline we can't change the rules
[3:43:41] on them.
[3:43:42] if it's something that we wanted to do there is a time
[3:43:47] sensitive condition. We will come back on that again
[3:43:51] in january. I hear you.
[3:43:53] that's it.
[3:43:54] >>14 b 4.
[3:43:55] >> good evening mayor and commissioners.
[3:43:58] I will be presenting this item and I do want to stress
[3:44:03] first and foremost is village staff I speak for all of
[3:44:08] us who work on events. I'm incredibly proud to provide
[3:44:13] services in the community for even part of what I love
[3:44:17] most about my job.
[3:44:19] the community engagement and outreach aspect it's great
[3:44:23] to see the community come together and providing an
[3:44:27] opportunity for the community together.
[3:44:29] that being said the concept of this item is to
[3:44:33] establish a policy primitively to ensure that we are
[3:44:37] creating quality programming for the community taking
[3:44:41] into account our staff and bandwidth.
[3:44:43] in the budget process and before the fiscal year began
[3:44:48] reached out to all of you to request a list of all the
[3:44:53] sites you are interested in producing the upcoming
[3:44:57] year.
[3:44:57] we taken those into account is not directed at any of
[3:45:02] you it's just a matter of process, not having a
[3:45:07] process.
[3:45:07] during the year when I'm presenting tonight is
[3:45:11] establishing a process during the year where more
[3:45:14] events were acquired.
[3:45:15] looking at what that process looks like. Internally we
[3:45:19] discussed and recommend for you all to establish and
[3:45:23] approve any events sponsored by the commission paired
[3:45:27] we recommended at least three months in advance that
[3:45:31] would be nice.
[3:45:32] we know that things come up but ultimately we would
[3:45:37] like it to come to commission not just a week or two
[3:45:42] weeks before and events.
[3:45:44] not singling anyone out not saying this is
[3:45:47] happening.[laughter] I'm just saying!
[3:45:49] [laughter] we talk about your event so don't worry.
[3:45:53] [laughter] anyway, just establishing a process we do
[3:45:57] have a recommendation for any new events that come back
[3:46:01] to the commission for approval and it is up to you guys
[3:46:06] to talk about that but that is our recommendation.
[3:46:10] in addition something that's not usually thought about
[3:46:14] with events is the additional overtime that is caused
[3:46:18] by these events.
[3:46:19] we are also recommending that the overtime for events
[3:46:23] would require a budget event from the commissioner with
[3:46:27] a budgeted line item.
[3:46:29] thank you, that is the item for consideration.
[3:46:32] >> for example it makes sense to say we need to budget
[3:46:38] staff time in a way that is manageable so we can manage
[3:46:43] expectations of what we are delivering.
[3:46:46] at the same time the first thing is I'm hesitant to
[3:46:51] create policies like this because we have an
[3:46:54] unfortunate tendency to then point at the policy and
[3:46:58] the not do things that make sense because of the
[3:47:03] policy.
[3:47:03] three months lead time plus the amount of time it takes
[3:47:08] to get something on the agenda and then time it takes
[3:47:13] for someone to come around is really four months.
[3:47:17] and I can pursue circumstances where something might
[3:47:20] come up where a commission member might have the funds
[3:47:25] and willingness to do the event and it's not four-month
[3:47:29] ahead of time. For example, I will use the bangladesh
[3:47:34] event that I'm doing how much time have you spent on
[3:47:38] that?
[3:47:39] >> well, it's not that much time because they are doing
[3:47:44] the event.
[3:47:45] >> right.
[3:47:46] there's cases and ways to do things that don't require
[3:47:50] staff time. There are some things that I agree with,
[3:47:54] seriously.
[3:47:55] >> there are financial costs associated with them as
[3:47:59] well.
[3:47:59] >> and we have the budget to pay for that.
[3:48:04] madeleine came to me and said you're going to cover the
[3:48:09] cost for police and overtime and I said yes.
[3:48:13] I'm sponsoring the event and I will cover it from my
[3:48:17] fund.
[3:48:18] I think I am chipping in a few hundred dollars for food
[3:48:23] and drinks but madeleine has helped with the liaison
[3:48:27] work is certainly not a heavy lift.
[3:48:30] and that's it.
[3:48:32] I think there are ways to do events that are courteous
[3:48:36] and take into account staff time and I would be
[3:48:41] hesitant to eliminate the potential to do that kind of
[3:48:45] thing without four-month notice and I think what you
[3:48:49] are asking for is courtesy from the commission in terms
[3:48:54] of recognizing staff time.
[3:48:55] I think we should all do that without bureaucratic
[3:48:59] ourselves to death with a three-page policy on how it's
[3:49:04] going to work.
[3:49:05] that's my opinion.
[3:49:07] >> we definitely respect helen's time and staff time
[3:49:11] and we definitely need a certain amount of time.
[3:49:14] maybe to get something on the agenda maybe it's not the
[3:49:19] four months it's three months.
[3:49:22] we also run the risk of putting on subpar events and we
[3:49:27] don't want to be in the position to do that.
[3:49:31] also if we have events that take place one or two weeks
[3:49:37] between each other and then it doesn't come out way we
[3:49:42] want and we have criticism because we didn't have the
[3:49:46] bandwidth to do it.
[3:49:48] >> I think what could be helpful is a lot of times we
[3:49:53] don't know the full amount of steps that go into making
[3:49:58] something happen and also if we knew those ahead of
[3:50:03] time for example the stroller derby there are groups
[3:50:07] that have done similar types of event that we could
[3:50:11] call on and draw upon. These events will require you
[3:50:16] and others to put their hands on it and it doesn't
[3:50:20] matter who is helping because we have a certain
[3:50:24] standard and level of event that we want to have.
[3:50:29] however if we had that figured out the budget we could
[3:50:34] notify vendors, whatever it takes to make one of these
[3:50:38] things happen happen. It will be helpful to know as we
[3:50:43] think about this is one of the events that will
[3:50:47] probably need more than a four-month leadtime and I
[3:50:51] have none of the boxes checked this is an event or have
[3:50:57] eight of the 10 boxes checked and I need to figure out
[3:51:02] a date and tell people when to call.
[3:51:06] so maybe the first thing is identifying what it takes
[3:51:10] to put one of these events together and working
[3:51:14] backwards.
[3:51:14] >> I do want to bring up I think the mayor and the vice
[3:51:21] mayor bring up good points.
[3:51:23] no event is the same and they require different things
[3:51:27] going into each event.
[3:51:29] hope puts us in an uncomfortable position is a never
[3:51:33] want to be in a position where I chose one
[3:51:38] commissioners event over another commissioners event.
[3:51:41] so having a process would be helpful to ensure that no
[3:51:45] one is above anyone else.
[3:51:48] that is my concern, personally, in addition to being
[3:51:52] courteous.
[3:51:52] >> personally I try to make an effort when I encourage
[3:51:57] staff to do a minimum.
[3:51:59] to the extent of this I would say to staff's credit
[3:52:04] many time the staff gets involved more than they need
[3:52:08] to be because you want things to be good and you go
[3:52:14] above and beyond and that's fine.
[3:52:16] it shouldn't come at the expense of not doing things
[3:52:21] that the commissioners want to do if we say to you
[3:52:26] look, again, this thing with the saturday soccer and
[3:52:30] said to you guys I don't need you guys at those things.
[3:52:35] it's not necessary I don't need staff at that stuff.
[3:52:39] is not necessary.
[3:52:41] I don't want you to work while you're on vacation like
[3:52:46] I don't need you to work during holidays if I need you
[3:52:51] I will ask but I don't want you to give up the ability
[3:52:57] to do things because staff needs to be there even
[3:53:01] though you don't need to do it.
[3:53:04] you know?
[3:53:05] >> their concern is around accountability?
[3:53:08] even if I was having an event and again I'm going to
[3:53:13] keep calling on this because you've called me out
[3:53:17] tonight and going to address it and be defensive,
[3:53:21] totally kidding.
[3:53:22] for example the stroller derby.
[3:53:24] not only from accountability perspective but I think
[3:53:28] the chair of our events, helen, you have a certain
[3:53:32] standard that you want to see that we are all
[3:53:37] accustomed to, quite frankly.
[3:53:38] it's different to tell someone who's accountable for
[3:53:42] something that they don't have control of what's going
[3:53:46] on because everyone will be held accountable for
[3:53:49] something that happens if it goes sideways I'm not
[3:53:53] going to call the vendor going to call someone at the
[3:53:58] city.
[3:53:59] >> vice mayor appreciate your sentiment I want you to
[3:54:03] know I will be accountable for your stroller derby and
[3:54:08] have to accept that.
[3:54:09] we have to let each other live and do our thing as
[3:54:15] well. It's also part of it.
[3:54:17] were saying ambiguity and imperfection to all of this.
[3:54:21] >> I have a question.
[3:54:23] >> I'm sure the stroller event is to be great I'm not
[3:54:29] knocking it.
[3:54:30] >> can I be the baby in the stroller?
[3:54:34] [laughter] ask my kids way 100 pounds each so I might
[3:54:38] as well push you around.
[3:54:41] >> the hanukkah events.
[3:54:42] when I got there I encountered a small problem that
[3:54:47] required public works.
[3:54:48] and when I spoke with carla about public works, public
[3:54:53] works was not around, they were not there and it would
[3:54:58] be a four hour call back.
[3:55:00] I've no idea who paid for the police budget for that
[3:55:05] event.
[3:55:05] nobody asked me to cooperate and I think that
[3:55:09] commissioner rachel streitfeld was a commissioner who
[3:55:13] footed the bill for that one but I'm no idea who put
[3:55:18] event together in the village and the police were there
[3:55:22] and they got paid.
[3:55:24] >> that was not a commission sponsored even in I don't
[3:55:29] know the answer.
[3:55:30] >> who was it?
[3:55:32] >> it was the rabbis event.
[3:55:35] >> did the rabbi pay for the police?
[3:55:38] >> number.
[3:55:39] >> did the rabbi pay for the menorah?
[3:55:43] did he pay to put up the candles met.
[3:55:47] >> number.
[3:55:48] >> think god someone was there to change it.
[3:55:52] these are the things that come in question with who is
[3:55:56] responsible for the payments like we said are we
[3:56:00] responsible for the payment end of course. If we
[3:56:04] propose an event.
[3:56:06] we are responsible for the payment of our event.
[3:56:10] but, if something just happens to take place and we
[3:56:14] need the people and are not there.
[3:56:17] >> I think a checklist would be helpful to the folks
[3:56:22] know what it would take to put on an event and then we
[3:56:28] talk about want to do something next week you can say
[3:56:33] well, here are the lists of the things that you need to
[3:56:38] do to make that happen next week and we can't
[3:56:42] physically make that happen or, it looks like all the
[3:56:47] things are checked we just need to figure out a time
[3:56:52] and publicize it.
[3:56:53] >> I think that is good thinking.
[3:56:56] that makes sense.
[3:56:58] you can come up with a checklist that includes all
[3:57:02] these things and essentially the burden is on the
[3:57:06] commission to provide those things or we can't do the
[3:57:10] event.
[3:57:11] >> that sounds good to me.
[3:57:13] >> awesome. Thank you guys.
[3:57:16] >> starting after the stroller derby!
[3:57:18] [laughter]
[3:57:19] >> that was accounted for!
[3:57:21] >> those going to say the off duty for the menorah it
[3:57:26] was all on duty there was no off-duty police officers
[3:57:31] involved.
[3:57:31] >> if there would have been a call would be the officer
[3:57:36] at the event?
[3:57:38] >> we were well staffed.
[3:57:40] with seven officers.
[3:57:41] >> talking about that for next year.
[3:57:44] >> we are a very low crime city.
[3:57:48] >> if it happened elsewhere or by been a different
[3:57:52] scenario.
[3:57:53] >> let's go that route, let's try that will come back.
[3:57:58] >> him on board.
[3:57:59] >> the mayor didn't do what he said.
[3:58:03] >> and, if it were any event it's the mayors fault!
[3:58:08] >> I am willing to shoulder that.
[3:58:11] I get a credit for these things, too.
[3:58:15] all right.
[3:58:15] >> two more items.
[3:58:17] >> they are both mine and we will do them we have to
[3:58:23] work through these.
[3:58:24] 14 b6 the short-term rental update and code provision
[3:58:28] 13.9 b. I have three items that I would like if I
[3:58:34] during this discussion. One is specifically the code
[3:58:37] provision13 9b, the concept of a legal memo and clarity
[3:58:42] on what is being done and I want to clarify that
[3:58:46] clearly.
[3:58:47] then, the third is going to be our attempt to
[3:58:51] communicate our code and effort on s tbr and in an
[3:58:56] accessible fashion.
[3:58:57] let's start with code provision 13.9 b. I have provided
[3:59:01] a series of emails from residents regarding this for.
[3:59:06] background there was a I guess it was a call, it's hard
[3:59:11] to describe it as a call to police, sometime in early
[3:59:16] november.
[3:59:16] this was about a sports car driving erratically through
[3:59:20] the streets of north bay village.
[3:59:23] I guess they went out of north bay island in the
[3:59:28] evening and then back into north bay island the
[3:59:32] following morning around 7 am at excessive rates of
[3:59:36] speed.
[3:59:36] the sports car along with others, or another or others
[3:59:41] was delivered to a vacation home. That caused a series
[3:59:45] of emails to me and other staff members, dr. Ralph
[3:59:50] rosado, chief noriega, the deputy chief, code
[3:59:53] enforcement supervisor orlando and others lodging a
[3:59:56] complaint about the speeding vehicle which was
[3:59:59] responded to I will ask the chief what the response was
[4:00:04] in the response was strong and presumably adequate. We
[4:00:08] were asked what was the response but I want to get to
[4:00:13] the point of this particular part of this item which is
[4:00:18] that the response though it did include many steps it
[4:00:22] did not include an immediate call and insistence on the
[4:00:27] part of our police that the representative of the
[4:00:31] short-term rental come to the site within 60 minutes.
[4:00:35] the code which orlando has and can read to us and this
[4:00:40] is where we get to the thing that I want to discuss the
[4:00:46] code is relatively and I know everyone doesn't say this
[4:00:50] but it's corrected is relatively ambiguous as it does
[4:00:54] not a specific course of action for our police.
[4:00:58] it is vague.
[4:01:00] we will read it and then we'll talk about what policy
[4:01:04] is and what some residents have said they think the
[4:01:09] policy or they think what they would like the policy to
[4:01:14] be and then we will go through the discussion of the
[4:01:19] back-and-forth which was lengthy and then we will try
[4:01:23] to come to an agreement with this art of the code.
[4:01:28] orlando, two things. Can you describe to us what
[4:01:31] response was to this incident and then describe to us
[4:01:36] that part of the code in the policy that is being
[4:01:41] followed at this time and then I will describe what
[4:01:45] residents would like to see.
[4:01:47] >> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners
[4:01:51] will let chief noriega respond to the response.
[4:01:55] >> good evening, I don't have the specifics on the call
[4:01:59] but I do have a recollection on what happened around
[4:02:04] 11:30 that evening there was a call of a car racing out
[4:02:09] of north bay island onto the causeway and into the city
[4:02:14] of miami. We responded and there wassomewhat of an s
[4:02:18] tbr 7700.
[4:02:19] our units responded there was no car to be found when
[4:02:24] they arrived so they kept an eye on the house most of
[4:02:29] the night.
[4:02:30] that was a midnight shift and they work until 7 am.
[4:02:35] round 7:30 a.m. The same car returned and the sergeant
[4:02:40] who work that evening was on his way out, he heard the
[4:02:45] car go out and return.
[4:02:47] in the meantime was responding to emails around
[4:02:51] midnight to the complainant who lives on miami view
[4:02:55] drive.
[4:02:55] I was also in communications with the sergeant who
[4:02:59] responded who advised that the car in question was gone
[4:03:04] on arrival.
[4:03:04] around 7:30 email started again in the sergeant
[4:03:08] responded to turn back around and responded that the
[4:03:12] car was at the house and immediately made contact to
[4:03:16] people who were occupying the house.
[4:03:19] turned out that the people occupying the house and
[4:03:23] orlando can correct me if I am mistaken on this were
[4:03:28] friends of the owner.
[4:03:30] they were in town from france.
[4:03:32] the sergeant basically told him why he was there, what
[4:03:37] the complaint was and if they were caught behind the
[4:03:41] wheel what they were exactly accused of doing that they
[4:03:46] would be cited and or arrested for reckless driving.
[4:03:50] while this was going on I contacted orlando who is
[4:03:54] trying to get a hold of the property owner and I asked
[4:03:59] orlando to give me that number so I could.
[4:04:03] >> commissioner: them.
[4:04:05] within an hour I was on the phone with them and I told
[4:04:10] them what was happening needed to stop immediately and
[4:04:14] if we were to catch those folks at that house driving
[4:04:19] like that in a reckless manner.
[4:04:22] from that point on there were no other incidents at the
[4:04:27] house. The manager said he would contact the tenants
[4:04:31] or the friends and would address the problem and make
[4:04:35] sure it did not happen again.
[4:04:38] that problem was handled appropriately in another
[4:04:41] challenge we had was the complainant wanted the driver
[4:04:45] cited unless we catchy behind the wheel committing
[4:04:48] those illegal acts we cannot cite you.
[4:04:52] that was handled immediately by on-duty personnel
[4:04:55] making contact with the tenants, us making contact with
[4:04:59] the property manager or owner and we had no other
[4:05:03] issues in that particular incident.
[4:05:05] that being said I spoke with orlando and we agreed that
[4:05:10] a citation would be issued to the property manager
[4:05:14] which it was.
[4:05:15] so, that is my recollection of the incident.
[4:05:19] >> thank you chief.
[4:05:21] >> thank you chief, that is correct.
[4:05:24] the goal, always, for code is compliance.
[4:05:27] our approach to that is one of doing things in a lawful
[4:05:32] manner, interpreting the code with a reasonable person
[4:05:36] standard and reasonable practices.
[4:05:38] somebody perhaps who is not in this field could read
[4:05:42] this section and interpret it in a way that it would
[4:05:47] require what would seem like we could require someone
[4:05:51] to show up and essentially execute an impromptu
[4:05:54] subpoena of a free citizen to show up where it code
[4:05:59] officer, police officer wants them to be within the
[4:06:03] matter of an hour and somehow think that is not a civil
[4:06:09] liberties issue.
[4:06:09] in light of that insight them with $1000 is not lawful
[4:06:14] or legal to expect.
[4:06:16] that is why this section where it says we can require
[4:06:21] someone.
[4:06:21] >> can you read that entire part of the code?
[4:06:26] >> 13.9.
[4:06:27] every commercial representing must be physically
[4:06:29] present at a vacation rental following notification
[4:06:32] from a vacation rental occupant law enforcement officer
[4:06:36] emergency personnel or the village for issues related
[4:06:40] to vacation rental and shall be present at the location
[4:06:44] in a timeframe when requested.
[4:06:46] our policy which is approved by the deputy chief and
[4:06:51] myself and ran through the manager village attorney,
[4:06:54] code enforcement attorney and which is we would require
[4:06:58] the presence of a representative during a true
[4:07:02] emergency or if we confirm multiple violations at a
[4:07:06] property. For example, if the car went to a property
[4:07:10] as it were with those lamborghinis they completely
[4:07:14] disregarded the officer.
[4:07:15] they continued to race down the street or have allowed
[4:07:19] party we would have to go back again and confirm the
[4:07:24] second violation.
[4:07:25] now this is a continued problem where we would escalate
[4:07:30] what our enforcement would be to gain compliance.
[4:07:33] so that is what we do.
[4:07:36] emergency or confirmed repeat violation would be the
[4:07:39] only reasonable reasons to have someone come out.
[4:07:43] so, the idea that this impromptu subpoena of a person
[4:07:47] who arrived at our discretion because we felt like it
[4:07:52] would constitute a $1000 fine or strike against her
[4:07:56] license is something that is not reasonable.
[4:07:59] I understand it is not clear in this ordinance we agree
[4:08:04] with that it's one of those things we are absently
[4:08:08] going to clarify when we redo the ordinance and not to
[4:08:13] create it as a strike because us not going to happen
[4:08:18] and not to obligate the person to be there within an
[4:08:23] hour because there is a violation is not reasonable.
[4:08:27] we will clarify that to make so that only in an
[4:08:32] emergency or on a case-by-case circumstance or we need
[4:08:36] additional assistance to gain compliance and in our
[4:08:39] track record of the last few years has not been
[4:08:44] necessary.
[4:08:44] our violations in 2028 we issued 52 citations for
[4:08:48] properties operating illegally without a license
[4:08:51] blatantly.
[4:08:51] this year to date we've only had 18.
[4:08:55] I'm going to keep drilling a down because him going to
[4:08:59] keep repeating it, it's a top priority for us.
[4:09:03] stvr's are top priorities.
[4:09:05] where we were at two days ago to where we are today,
[4:09:11] are there more stvr's? Yes.
[4:09:13] but there are less problems with stvr's.
[4:09:16] regardless we are not putting our guard down.
[4:09:19] our zero-tolerance policy shows in the numbers and what
[4:09:23] is going on.
[4:09:25] she we feel that this reasonable standard is the way to
[4:09:30] go and it is a lawful thing.
[4:09:33] our attorney can clarify if you need clarification on
[4:09:37] why we can't subpoena someone on the spot but I don't
[4:09:41] know if there's any other questions are not.
[4:09:45] >> I will asklegally background for this but let me
[4:09:49] give the residential perspective on this and what
[4:09:53] certain residents have told me.
[4:09:55] the interpretation by the residence is, by some of the
[4:10:00] residence, those who contacted me and many of you were
[4:10:04] copied on the emails is that the city should insist
[4:10:08] that the representative of the stvr arrive when called.
[4:10:12] anytime there's a violation we didn't define this in
[4:10:16] the interaction with the resident but anytime there is
[4:10:20] an interaction with the stvr when arriving with the
[4:10:24] seriousness of the strike that the manager should be
[4:10:28] called to the scene and they should arrive within 60
[4:10:33] minutes.
[4:10:33] this is the point of view of the residence.
[4:10:37] that is their interpretation.
[4:10:39] we should do that as a code enforcement or a police
[4:10:44] force call the manager of the stvr and check in within
[4:10:49] 60 minutes as an enforcement tool.
[4:10:51] reason they feel this way is that these stvr's when
[4:10:56] they create a disturbance are creating a disturbance
[4:10:59] and quality of life and well-being of the residents of
[4:11:04] the island so they feel that it is legitimate and
[4:11:08] correct to then cause an inconvenience to the manager
[4:11:12] of that stvr and you can understand that point of view
[4:11:17] certainly is justifiable to think that way.
[4:11:20] it makes sense from a certain point of view it makes a
[4:11:26] lot of sense.
[4:11:27] >> I seen that and I know the exact quote is let's
[4:11:32] bother them.
[4:11:33] unfortunately, let's bother them is not a code of
[4:11:37] ethics or any performance standard that any ethical,
[4:11:41] professional enforcement agency would have as a policy.
[4:11:44] is this not a performance standard.
[4:11:47] let's bother them is not what we do. We strive for
[4:11:52] compliance.
[4:11:52] not answers that.
[4:11:53] >> let's say, what exactly is the policy at this time
[4:11:58] in terms of making calls?
[4:12:00] there was a policy memo dr. Ralph rosado.
[4:12:04] >> yes.
[4:12:05] >> what is that?
[4:12:07] >> is in the powerpoint.
[4:12:09] we have committed to calling them upon confirmation of
[4:12:13] a violation is what we did with the lamborghini issue
[4:12:17] which was the only issue we had the entire month last
[4:12:22] month.
[4:12:23] >> calling them but not insisting they came to the
[4:12:27] scene.
[4:12:27] >> not at all. Unnecessary. We call them we inform of
[4:12:32] the violation and we follow-up and also we have added
[4:12:37] the information to the monthly report as promised in
[4:12:41] this month we've updated all the police activity for
[4:12:45] the month which is a request and we committed through
[4:12:49] calling them and strengthening our ordinance is what
[4:12:53] were going to do.
[4:12:54] elekta said, I don't know if it really needs to be
[4:12:59] clarified that the impromptu request they are well
[4:13:03] within their rights to not show up and we cannot
[4:13:07] consider that a strike.
[4:13:09] >> essentially you are saying if you were to call them
[4:13:14] and they were not to show up essentially nothing happen
[4:13:18] here there's no further enforcement you can take when
[4:13:22] they don't come despite in the code it says they
[4:13:27] should?
[4:13:27] >> right.
[4:13:28] >> okay.
[4:13:29] >> whenever you want to hear from me?
[4:13:33] >> it's time now. I think we need to establish this.
[4:13:37] >> we revamp the ordinance can we try to see what can
[4:13:43] be done? As far as them not showing up for that to be
[4:13:48] a fine I don't see it happening and correct me if I'm
[4:13:54] wrong mr.
[4:13:55] attorney but we definitely could have bothering them
[4:13:58] isn't a standard it is not a performance measure for
[4:14:03] code violation for what we do.
[4:14:05] we document code violations were going to have the
[4:14:09] strikes reduced in the ultimate goal is to stop the
[4:14:14] nuisance.
[4:14:14] if that gets done that is the goal.
[4:14:18] we obtained compliance so listing someone to come over
[4:14:22] it does not cause everything. It would give someone
[4:14:26] satisfaction that we got them out of bed and they had
[4:14:31] to come over.
[4:14:32] >> let's ask our attorney to do a pine and let me
[4:14:37] specifically ask.
[4:14:38] if we were to say as a commission which we might like
[4:14:43] to say, we understand what the code enforcement
[4:14:47] supervisor is saying and yet we want to take the point
[4:14:52] of view and of course I can't speak for the commission
[4:14:57] until he vote on this but I'm saying if we were to say
[4:15:02] this as a commission we would like to instruct the
[4:15:07] village manager to insist that a call is made to the,
[4:15:12] per this code, this section of the code a call is made
[4:15:17] to the supervisor of the home insisting that they
[4:15:21] arrive on the scene and I guess the code does not
[4:15:26] prescribe what the next step would be and that's a
[4:15:30] problem but presumably the step would be further
[4:15:34] enforcement action based on that person arriving or not
[4:15:38] arriving on scene within 60 minutes.
[4:15:40] if we were to elect to want to do that with that a
[4:15:46] tenable course of action?
[4:15:48] >> I'm not sure it is.
[4:15:51] there is no ordinance so far that we been able to
[4:15:56] uncover in the state of florida that allows the
[4:15:59] municipality to sanction the responsible party for not
[4:16:03] showing.
[4:16:03] there are ordinances that do what north bay village
[4:16:07] does which is mandating an appearance on scene if
[4:16:11] demanded.
[4:16:12] the next step is not there.
[4:16:15] punishing you for not showing you know, I'm not sure
[4:16:19] that the village has the legal authority to compel
[4:16:23] somebody to appear in a situation like this.
[4:16:27] we are looking at it.
[4:16:29] where there is liability is where the responsible party
[4:16:33] is contacted and refuses to take necessary action.
[4:16:36] if they don't take action we can get them for a code
[4:16:42] violation but forcing them to appear if they choose not
[4:16:46] to appear we haven't finished all of our research yet
[4:16:50] but there doesn't appear to be a whole lot of support
[4:16:55] for this proposition that they could be fined for not
[4:17:00] showing when they have been contacted.
[4:17:02] >> let me ask you a related question and I don't want
[4:17:08] to get too far off field specifically related to this
[4:17:12] insistence on appearance, it seems like it might be
[4:17:16] possible to mandate that someone lives at the home do
[4:17:20] we talk about that?
[4:17:22] >> that's one of the amendments that were looking at in
[4:17:27] fact I brought it up and there's three things that were
[4:17:32] brought to orlando's presentation just that we could
[4:17:36] look at, owner occupied situation eliminating the
[4:17:39] number of vehicles that are at the residence and also
[4:17:43] the posting of a bond.
[4:17:45] >> I don't want to get all over the place but I asked
[4:17:51] that question to specifically say and again I'm not a
[4:17:55] lawyer but if we can mandate someone to live at a
[4:18:00] property can't you mandate them to show up at a given
[4:18:05] time?
[4:18:06] aren't those similar items?
[4:18:07] >> I'm not sure sure they are.
[4:18:11] >> sorry to interrupt.
[4:18:12] these are different legal rights under those two
[4:18:16] different scenarios.
[4:18:17] I know there was a request for a legal memorandum in
[4:18:22] there was some shack when we said we were going to fund
[4:18:27] the statewide search and tracking of all stvr related
[4:18:31] ordinances in the various challenges being waged
[4:18:34] against them but I want to reassure people that we are
[4:18:39] deftly taking the advantage that we pay lawyers to
[4:18:43] represent us.
[4:18:44] they are researching all of these ideas.
[4:18:47] >> commissioner rachel streitfeld will get there.
[4:18:50] >> I'm not finished.
[4:18:52] one thing, if we can't compel someone to be living at
[4:18:57] the residence, if we can't compel owner occupied we
[4:19:01] might be able to say if you are going to have a home as
[4:19:07] a short-term vacation rental that can be considered in
[4:19:11] the sense of in some sense as a public use and so we
[4:19:16] could require that short-term vacation rentals have to
[4:19:20] be ada compliance which might disincentive I someone
[4:19:24] from having a short-term occasion rental.
[4:19:26] >> let me be clear we are not reaching a legal
[4:19:31] conclusion that you can't require the owner to occupy.
[4:19:35] there's at least one jurisdiction that apparently does
[4:19:39] that.
[4:19:39] the idea that compelling a property owner who is not on
[4:19:44] the scene to appear and then find them for not
[4:19:48] appearing as of today I think you are going too far.
[4:19:53] >> you will have to provide reasonable notice and an
[4:19:58] opportunity to be heard.
[4:19:59] >> okay.
[4:20:00] I think there's a problem to begin with in this part of
[4:20:06] the code, now we spoken about it for some time we have
[4:20:11] arrived at a problem which is even if we do compel
[4:20:16] someone to come out within 60 minutes and they don't
[4:20:20] show the code does not provide for any next action that
[4:20:25] we would take.
[4:20:26] that is problematic.
[4:20:28] I don't mind asking to compel someone to show up. I
[4:20:33] think it is toothless right now.
[4:20:35] if her going to have that in the code we have to add
[4:20:41] teeth to it.
[4:20:42] if we can.
[4:20:44] >> like I said the compulsion to appear does appear in
[4:20:49] some other codes but we haven't found any code that
[4:20:53] says if you fail to appear there will be sanctions
[4:20:57] imposed against you for not appearing.
[4:21:00] it is a two-sided thing your compelling people to
[4:21:04] appear and if they say no I'm not going to appear what
[4:21:09] can you do about it?
[4:21:12] not sure there's much you can do but were not done with
[4:21:17] our research.
[4:21:18] our goal was to provide you a something in early
[4:21:22] january and we are working diligently on it.
[4:21:26] >> that's fine.
[4:21:27] I was asked to bring this forward by the residence and
[4:21:32] we did it and I didn't think it through to this point
[4:21:37] because the next thing I would like to do is to insist
[4:21:43] that immediately we start calling the manager but now I
[4:21:47] realize that even if I insist on the and the commission
[4:21:52] were to vote for and change the policy and compel the
[4:21:57] police to call the manager within 60 minutes.
[4:22:00] >> let me interject.
[4:22:02] requiring the owner or the responsible party to be
[4:22:06] available by phone to accept the context is a
[4:22:10] completely different situation than requiring them to
[4:22:13] appear on scene.
[4:22:14] the idea is if you don't respond to this context within
[4:22:19] an hour or whatever timeframe you're going to come up
[4:22:24] with that could be a code violation.
[4:22:27] it's far different than requiring that person to show
[4:22:31] up on scene at his property.
[4:22:33] you are putting the person on notice that there is a
[4:22:38] problem of the property and it goes a step further if
[4:22:43] you don't fix that problem we can find you for that.
[4:22:48] that is far different than saying not only are we
[4:22:52] calling you and advising you that there's a problem at
[4:22:57] your property you must show up and if you don't show up
[4:23:02] are going to find the that is a leap we are not willing
[4:23:08] to make this yet.
[4:23:10] >> at that point if we are calling them we've already
[4:23:15] confirmed violation and we are citing them would be the
[4:23:19] only reason we would call them and in many of the
[4:23:24] ordinances we've looked at the section about duties of
[4:23:28] vacation rental representative seems to be a copy and
[4:23:32] paste that is in everybody's code this just been
[4:23:36] something that everybody hasn't cooperated.
[4:23:38] >> there are some departures in fact one code we found
[4:23:43] requires the property owner to evict the tenant if
[4:23:47] there is something in that condition. You legally if
[4:23:51] you evict some person they usually long gone.
[4:23:54] I understand your goal is to have the strictest
[4:23:58] possible I don't know if the entire commission feels
[4:24:02] that way but the idea is to have a strict ordinance
[4:24:07] looking at ways to make it stricter and tighter without
[4:24:12] going too far.
[4:24:13] that is sort of what we are working on right now in the
[4:24:19] concern about the appearance by the property owner or
[4:24:23] the responsible party is something that we are looking
[4:24:27] at.
[4:24:27] as of now I don't see how we can commence that person
[4:24:33] to show up if it's a failure to appear.
[4:24:36] even if it's an emergency like there's a fire on the
[4:24:41] property and you have a tenant that didn't turn off the
[4:24:46] burners and it started a fire I still don't think you
[4:24:51] can compel the owner to show up on scene even as his
[4:24:56] property is burning down.
[4:24:58] you've contacted him and he needs to take an action to
[4:25:03] ready the situation but beyond that I don't know if you
[4:25:08] can sanction him for saying I don't want to deal with
[4:25:13] this.
[4:25:13] call the police.
[4:25:15] we are not there yet I'm just offering information on
[4:25:19] the situation.
[4:25:20] >> are there any additional measures we can take. The
[4:25:24] three instances that come to mind are swift to
[4:25:28] deliberate and in each case successful.
[4:25:31] if we have to go further we contacted the property
[4:25:35] manager and we got immediate compliance and it put each
[4:25:40] issue to rest immediately.
[4:25:42] looking at next steps at this point, I don't see the
[4:25:46] reason why if the steps we have in place resulted in
[4:25:51] these three cases of a successful outcome.
[4:25:54] we have been seeing that with these types of cases.
[4:25:59] we are getting successful outcomes so, that's just my
[4:26:03] two cents on the.
[4:26:05] >> we saw no more issues the rest of the weekends. We
[4:26:10] accomplish the goal which was getting a strike against
[4:26:14] the property and we stopped the nuisance.
[4:26:17] >> I'm trying to get through, the feet back that I
[4:26:22] would get under these circumstances. It
[4:26:25] seemsreasonable to me when I am being told.
[4:26:28] I can't think for others.
[4:26:30] even though we think we are relatively sure that we
[4:26:35] cannot enforce or insist that a supervisor arrived on
[4:26:39] scene within 60 minutes can we still call and ask them
[4:26:44] to come in case of a violation?
[4:26:47] >> absolutely.
[4:26:48] there's no doubt about that.
[4:26:50] >> okay.
[4:26:51] and until we come up with a new policy, we are coming
[4:26:56] up with a new protocol in the coming months, were
[4:27:00] talking about a month or two months.
[4:27:03] in the interim as we are working on the code, dr. Ralph
[4:27:09] rosado, can we institute a policy if we have an
[4:27:13] incident that arrives at the seriousness of creating a
[4:27:17] strike against the property and asked the
[4:27:20] representative to come to the property as indicated in
[4:27:24] the code, what happens after that, I don't know.
[4:27:28] >> mayor, when we have the multiple meetings with the
[4:27:33] two various stvr groups we committed, the initial
[4:27:36] demand was we want you to call them and we committed to
[4:27:42] call them and we did that.
[4:27:44] and then there's a violation you have an issue at your
[4:27:49] property we are putting you on notice.
[4:27:52] having them come out once it's resolved serves no
[4:27:56] purpose.
[4:27:57] we also agreed if it's a repeat violation or something
[4:28:01] of a serious nature that does become an offense of the
[4:28:06] property we are going to tell them to come out here.
[4:28:11] so we can meet and get this resolved.
[4:28:14] and so we are doing that already.
[4:28:17] >> okay.
[4:28:18] I'm going to trunk this discussion as a show of good
[4:28:23] faith for residents who are truly concerned about stvr
[4:28:27] this may not come into play because we've had limited
[4:28:32] stvr incidents in the last couple of months but in the
[4:28:36] interim between now and these two ordinance can we put
[4:28:41] in place a policy that is part of a strike creating
[4:28:46] incident we call the manager and tell him or her to
[4:28:51] come out?
[4:28:51] that is what I would ask for.
[4:28:55] I don't see the downside.
[4:28:57] there's not necessarily an upside but I don't see a
[4:29:01] downside and again-
[4:29:03] >> when there is a threat to the property?
[4:29:07] >> again, we have to establish criteria in the policy
[4:29:11] but to me the criteria seems like when there is an
[4:29:16] incident we have a list of incidents that causes a
[4:29:21] strike against a property I don't know what they are
[4:29:25] now but noise, etc., etc. When something like that
[4:29:29] happens the policy would essentially be hey, stvr
[4:29:33] manager there's an incident that's occurring that will
[4:29:36] cause a strike against your property you need to come
[4:29:41] as part of our code it says to come and what happens
[4:29:46] next I don't know.
[4:29:48] >> we can probably work something out in context but
[4:29:52] using the noise as a specific example we would come in
[4:29:57] and say to call them we had a noise violation okay.
[4:30:02] having them come out after the noise violation is
[4:30:06] resolved?
[4:30:06] >> actually think people would universally agree that
[4:30:10] we want to be careful we are in a public forum.
[4:30:15] my question is, can we do that?
[4:30:18] would we be willing to do that?
[4:30:21] in the interim.
[4:30:22] >> yes, we can call.
[4:30:24] >> in the interim between now and we have it because
[4:30:29] were going to clarify the code.
[4:30:32] >> we mean by call, call or have them show up?
[4:30:37] >> what I hear the mayor saying is call and require
[4:30:42] them to show up.
[4:30:43] but we can't go past that.
[4:30:46] >> forget what comes next.
[4:30:48] suet to the code come to the property.
[4:30:52] >> mayor, that is what the code currently says.
[4:30:56] >> says that. So that's the crux of this whole
[4:31:00] conversation that we been outlining for a half-hour is
[4:31:04] the current code allows us to do that and the residence
[4:31:09] or say why are we doing it?
[4:31:12] nobody is here to have a discussion about the logic of
[4:31:17] it or what comes next or just saying look.
[4:31:21] >> the other part of the code says it's up to the
[4:31:26] discretion of the officer on scene and the police
[4:31:30] department to decide whether or not it's really
[4:31:34] necessary to have that person present.
[4:31:37] lexi can interpret that from the code that is the
[4:31:41] policy.
[4:31:41] >> yes. I don't think the code prescribes that either.
[4:31:46] it does not prescribe anything.
[4:31:48] okay?
[4:31:48] >> what I would like to see not removed from the
[4:31:53] equation is the officers discretion.
[4:31:56] if something is reasonable or unfounded then it stops
[4:32:00] there. And no further action. Just because someone
[4:32:03] called in and said there's a loud party at the pool and
[4:32:08] we arrived there and we hear very low ambient music
[4:32:13] that is something that we can ask them to lower it more
[4:32:18] but I don't think that should rise the level of having
[4:32:23] a property manager come out because someone called in a
[4:32:27] complaint about loud music.
[4:32:29] >> of course.
[4:32:31] I don't think that's what were talking about.
[4:32:34] >> 8c those thresholds or standards removed.
[4:32:37] >> gift of a scenario where it doesn't trigger and you
[4:32:42] need to come over here now.
[4:32:45] >> let's say something like exceeding the occupancy
[4:32:48] level.
[4:32:49] yeah 18 people staying in this home, this four-bedroom
[4:32:53] home, clearly that is a violation and it needs to be
[4:32:58] addressed so how do you address that?
[4:33:01] mr. Property owner you have to come out here you need
[4:33:06] to address it and people say you don't address the
[4:33:10] problem you're going to be fined for it.
[4:33:14] if you don't want to come out you don't have to come
[4:33:19] out but were finding you for it if were not addressing
[4:33:24] the problem.
[4:33:25] it doesn't say that in the village code.
[4:33:28] that is a step that we should deftly take.
[4:33:32] >> that's correct.
[4:33:33] if we can't go the route of that were also going to
[4:33:39] find you for not showing up, certainly we can find
[4:33:43] people for not remediating the problem the property
[4:33:47] owner once they been contacted.
[4:33:49] >> it seems like we can and this is an interim measure
[4:33:54] what we fix this. If we could and again I think you
[4:34:00] need to define the criteria but the criteria for me the
[4:34:04] simplest one is if we determine the violation that
[4:34:08] causes disrespect to property if it doesn't arrive to
[4:34:12] that seriousness it wouldn't be something that you
[4:34:16] would call out or reason to call someone out.
[4:34:20] we can agree to do that in the interim more than
[4:34:25] anything it is a show of good faith to the residents
[4:34:30] that we would like to see this and that would satisfy
[4:34:34] think that would be satisfactory.
[4:34:37] so we do have an agreement on that?
[4:34:40] again, I understand.
[4:34:42] I get everything that's being said and I don't agree
[4:34:46] with a single thing okay?
[4:34:48] so, if you agree unless something is stated differently
[4:34:52] I would like to discuss it further.
[4:34:55] we are in a public forum.
[4:34:58] all right.
[4:34:59] nothing further on that pure the next two points should
[4:35:03] be relatively quick and then the other items are quick,
[4:35:08] too. The next one is the legal memo and commissioner
[4:35:12] rachel streitfeld started to speak about this and she's
[4:35:16] correct. Thank you, chief and deputy chief.
[4:35:19] I think there has been some misunderstanding as well on
[4:35:24] the legal memo, dr. Ralph rosado described it as a
[4:35:28] binary choice the fact that we did not decide to
[4:35:32] proceed with the legal memo as interpreted that there
[4:35:36] will not be any legal research done in terms of putting
[4:35:41] this together it sounds like we are doing a lot of
[4:35:46] legal research.
[4:35:47] I don't know how this gets conveyed but I would like to
[4:35:52] dance I will try to convey it but how do we convey what
[4:35:58] legal research is being done and what is not being
[4:36:03] done?
[4:36:03] >> I might have to ask the questions of your finance
[4:36:08] department but when our law firm since bills to the
[4:36:12] village I don't know how it is broken down but to the
[4:36:18] extent to which it's broken down we go through time
[4:36:22] with different things and we describe spending two
[4:36:26] hours reviewing the city of destin ordinance on stvr
[4:36:30] that should be in the bill. All of the hours we are
[4:36:35] spending on stvr should be in the bill and I think we
[4:36:40] receive some of it you pay a retainer to the firm but
[4:36:46] our time is still baked into that.
[4:36:49] if I have to account for eight hours I'm going to say
[4:36:54] two hours spent on stvr research, one hour was spent
[4:36:58] leading to a court decision and we can clearly try to
[4:37:03] break that down for you if that would be helpful and
[4:37:08] show the amount of time we are spending on this but it
[4:37:13] is part and parcel.
[4:37:15] >> that is one thing and we can understand that the
[4:37:20] next question is there are specific cases that are
[4:37:24] pointed out saying what about this or what about that
[4:37:28] and in the follow-up question is how do we know if we
[4:37:34] don't comprehensively review everything?
[4:37:36] but we are.
[4:37:37] it would be negligent for us not to do that. We can't
[4:37:42] recommend to a client to take certain steps tiered we
[4:37:47] have to be able to provide you with the state of the
[4:37:52] law today and granted this is an extremely fluid
[4:37:56] situation.
[4:37:56] but I don't know how many municipalities there are in
[4:38:01] the state of florida but many of them have short-term
[4:38:05] rental vacations.
[4:38:06] >> over 500.
[4:38:07] >> we are looking at the one set of been challenged.
[4:38:12] the leading expert of vacation rentals in our law firm
[4:38:17] and speak certainly throughout the state and even
[4:38:20] internationally on this stuff. We have a good body of
[4:38:25] expert in the firm that's been looking at this not just
[4:38:30] for you but for other cities, too.
[4:38:33] we feel comfortable with any recommendations we make to
[4:38:37] you that have been thoroughly reviewed.
[4:38:39] by all the top people in the firm and we have looked at
[4:38:45] all of the ordinances and court cases and the attorney
[4:38:49] general's and having any relevancy.
[4:38:52] >> one quick thing, it's been mentioned to me and I
[4:38:57] think this is interesting and daytona beach was
[4:39:00] referenced. Some cities might have provisions in their
[4:39:04] laws that predate the preemption that you can go back
[4:39:08] and interpret it in such a way as to complicate or
[4:39:13] prohibit stvr's. Were you familiar with that thinking?
[4:39:16] >> read the email but I'm not familiar with that
[4:39:21] thinking.
[4:39:21] >> we can have a side discussion about it and see if
[4:39:27] there's something there or not.
[4:39:29] I'm not familiar with our entire land use code before
[4:39:33] 2011 either.
[4:39:34] there might be something there.
[4:39:36] >> there was an email in reference to one marco island
[4:39:41] was doing and that was a mischaracterization of what is
[4:39:46] going on in marco island.
[4:39:48] so, essentially marco island is dealing with other
[4:39:51] issues related to stvr not like what we are dealing
[4:39:56] with in north bay village.
[4:39:58] the things that have the most teeth are the island and
[4:40:03] destin and those are the ones we are modeling our
[4:40:07] ordinance amendments after and there are cities who
[4:40:11] have tried to go further and they been challenged and
[4:40:15] lost.
[4:40:16] all of that will be baked into whatever recommendations
[4:40:20] we offer and there will be some sort of memo that comes