1 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Appears that we have everyone in 2 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 attendance. Uh, do we have 3 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,120 >> except for what? 4 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120 >> Lori Pax is not here. 5 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,720 >> Okay. 6 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,919 >> Hendrick. 7 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:23,600 I'm sorry. It's kind of that 8 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,520 is here 9 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,350 with 10 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,720 » All right. Uh adoption. Let's see. 11 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,320 Which part would you like me to do 12 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,720 first? Adoption of the minutes or Okay. 13 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440 U we have the minutes from the March 14 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,200 31st 26 CIP joint city council budget 15 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,520 committee and parks commission work 16 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,640 session minutes. If you recall, that was 17 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,000 a month ago and we met here is a large 18 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,520 group. 19 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440 It's all in front of us. 20 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,799 >> I move for approval. 21 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:01,679 >> A second 22 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:04,480 >> motion and a second. All in favor say I. 23 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720 >> I. Same sign. 24 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,240 >> Carries. 25 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,679 >> We have a public hearing today. So 26 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:16,159 I have to read a very formal script. So 27 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:18,960 bear with me. Tonight we are holding a 28 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,240 public hearing regarding the state 29 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,080 revenue shared funds. The meeting will 30 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,159 proceed as follows. Members of the 31 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:25,840 public who wish to address the topic 32 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,840 will be given the opportunity. Members 33 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,360 of the public will have three minutes 34 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,919 each. We do have a timer. Budget 35 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:33,600 committee may ask questions of the staff 36 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240 and anyone else who testifies. The 37 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240 planned uses for the state revenue 38 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,080 shared funds are outlined in the 39 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,039 proposed budget which have which has 40 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,760 been available to the city's website on 41 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720 the city's website for public review. I 42 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,200 now call to order the public hearing at 43 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,269 601. 44 00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,520 Have we received any written staff 45 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,159 regarding the state revenue fund shared 46 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:03,200 funds? 47 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080 >> No. 48 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,990 >> None. All righty. 49 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080 We'll now open to public comment. Do we 50 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,720 have anyone online? No, sir. Anyone in 51 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,159 the audience? 52 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:14,799 >> No. 53 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,159 >> Not even a cricket. 54 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:19,760 Seeing and hearing no further requests 55 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,360 from the public, the hearing is now 56 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840 closed at 57 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720 6:02. 58 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Done. 59 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,559 Janelle, will you proceed with where we 60 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:35,039 left off last meeting on the uh budget? 61 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,840 >> Yes, we left off at beginning the street 62 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840 fund review and I'm actually gonna hand 63 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,360 it off to Andrew. He's going to walk us 64 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440 through the street, storm water, sewer, 65 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,880 and water funds. 66 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,320 >> Right. Thank you. 67 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:53,909 >> And we're gonna moment. 68 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:55,919 » Right. So, we're going to start off with 69 00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:59,919 uh the street fund here. Um, and as uh 70 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:02,240 we'll I'll go a little slower through 71 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,919 this one so we can remember how we're 72 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:05,679 going through these before. If you have 73 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:07,279 any questions, feel free to interrupt 74 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:11,279 me, but 75 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,360 do we need to go over anything in the 76 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,679 question? 77 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:15,120 >> Yeah. Are there any questions, I guess, 78 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,159 on the fund narrative itself whenever 79 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:23,110 projects listed on there? 80 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,399 » Right. Um 81 00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:25,919 >> questions or comments from the 82 00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,519 committee. Anyone? 83 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:28,559 >> No. 84 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:29,679 >> All right, please proceed. 85 00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:31,600 >> So we will go into the numbers then. Um 86 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,519 so uh to start we have our uh resources 87 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,240 here um from our beginning fund balance. 88 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200 We uh one thing to note is we do have 89 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,120 the restricted funds at the beginning 90 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,440 that can't be used for um just anything 91 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,159 that we want. And then we also have our 92 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:51,519 transfer which is about um twothirds of 93 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:55,440 the way down for $320,000 from the 94 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080 general fund that we were um asked to 95 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,559 do. That's for projects and for reserves 96 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:06,000 um future. Um and then we do have uh the 97 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,559 grant funds there as well which total 98 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,279 102 it's between two project um two 99 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,159 grants uh 12,000 for street lighting and 100 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:17,039 90,000 for our TSP update. 101 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:21,039 Um and then 102 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:26,320 we go a little to our SDC transfers. 103 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120 Well, that's actually yeah further down. 104 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,679 Yeah. So, and that's just uh going to be 105 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:35,600 a leftover from amphibious. So, going 106 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,919 into our uh expenditures we have um 107 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:43,679 everything here is pretty similar to 108 00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:47,679 last year except um we do have the total 109 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:49,840 of the uh transportation system plan 110 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,880 here for 150, but 90 of that is coming 111 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,440 back through the grant. Um 112 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,960 let's see. Um, is there any questions on 113 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200 the projects or anything else in here? 114 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,840 Um, we went through these in the CIP 115 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,879 list, but feel free to bring anything 116 00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:09,440 up. 117 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480 >> I'm assuming we still stand with the uh 118 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,040 road repair current with what the needs 119 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,280 are of our city at that uh what that 75 120 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,760 grand. 121 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,560 >> Yeah. So 75 it's a little um if it's 122 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,919 about what we um had last year. Uh it'll 123 00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,800 be a little bit well it'll be quite a 124 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,480 bit more next year because we are going 125 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,000 to be doing our slurry seal um project 126 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560 for next year. We pushed it out one 127 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,679 year. It would have been this year 128 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,119 normally but we wanted to do a slightly 129 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,960 uh more crack sealing to prep for the 130 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,399 slurry seal and it's going to be a 131 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:49,119 slightly bigger slurry seal project just 132 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,919 to get a better unit price as we do 133 00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:53,679 that. 134 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,720 With the size of our system, our 135 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,640 maintenance kind project costs aren't 136 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,480 going to be constant every year because 137 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,760 we're going to want to group things 138 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,320 together. That slurry seal um you don't 139 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560 you can't do too small of a project at a 140 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,760 time that you got to 141 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920 >> it just won't even fit on it. 142 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,040 >> So, it will fluctuate year to year. U 143 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,440 this year is a little lower needs. Next 144 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,800 year will be a little higher. 145 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,320 >> Yep. Um we did bring down our consulting 146 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,280 engineering. Yes, I could do that. Well, 147 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,079 that's right. 148 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:24,480 >> Right. 149 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,800 >> So, for streeties. 150 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,599 >> Um, 151 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,240 >> so where what are we paying on this sort 152 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,920 of slurry seal? 153 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,520 >> We don't have it in this one. It'll be 154 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,400 in it'll be budgeted for the next fiscal 155 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,720 year. 156 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,760 >> Oh, 2728. 157 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,320 >> 2728. Yeah. 158 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,680 >> I didn't think we did it this current 159 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,520 year either. We did. So, we're skipping 160 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,240 two years. 161 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,240 >> Um, we've typically been doing every 162 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:47,200 three. 163 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,520 >> Um, 164 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,119 >> and if you're not familiar with it, it's 165 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,280 surface treatment. Is it the story seal? 166 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,839 >> Yes. 167 00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:59,920 >> Street se street sweeping is up 22 168 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:00,480 grand. 169 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160 >> Yes, that's so we're actually paying um 170 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 that amount this year, but it would our 171 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,079 contract was we uh had to go back out 172 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,560 for contract because the ones that the 173 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,560 company were using before stopped doing 174 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 street sweeping. Um and so we went out 175 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,240 for quotes and had a new contract. 176 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,200 That's 177 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,720 >> the actual number of what we actually 178 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,480 paid this last year as well or at least 179 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,079 partway through the year. We started the 180 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,640 contract I believe in September. 181 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,000 >> And I mean I think the numbers kind of 182 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,079 tell you the story. They weren't doing 183 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,520 it anymore because they weren't even 184 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,599 covering their costs of doing it. It was at a loss to them by the time 185 00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,400 they once they realized all the costs. 186 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,720 So we had to we had to go back out and 187 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:48,320 we're seeing a more realistic cost. We 188 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,599 got a great deal. 189 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:50,880 >> We were getting a great deal. 190 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,760 >> It looks good. 191 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,720 >> Yeah. 192 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,920 >> But also, I do I do believe that we're 193 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,880 getting a much better service uh quality 194 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,119 service um than what we were before as 195 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:02,480 well. 196 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,880 >> What's the frequency that they come out? 197 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,960 >> Um currently they do uh once a month for 198 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,880 all the local streets and twice a month 199 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,240 for uh some of our collectors. 200 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,680 The new one same. 201 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,720 >> The new one will be we're we're going to 202 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,640 start them off at twice and we'll see 203 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,119 how it goes. I'm expecting it'll 204 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,760 probably need twice. 205 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,160 >> So the same is that what you're saying? 206 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,520 >> Same schedule. 207 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,040 Yeah. Yeah. 208 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,400 >> Same schedule. We'll just be adding 209 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,839 that. 210 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:36,000 >> So you said that's the actual cost of 211 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,960 the contract. Is there any stipulations 212 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,599 in that contract for them to be able to 213 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,880 increase the cost due to fuel? 214 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,320 >> I don't believe there's a fuel 215 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040 escalation, but they do uh there's 216 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,599 stipulations on when the we hit a 217 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,079 certain part um after so many years in 218 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:55,760 the contract, they can ask for 219 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,359 adjustments or cost, you know, as cost 220 00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,200 increase. 221 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,119 We'd have to go back and read the the 222 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,480 fine print on that because a lot of 223 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,320 contracts do have, you know, unusual 224 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400 circumstances are an option to 225 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,560 renegotiate, right? So, 226 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,920 >> uh, they have not asked. 227 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000 >> No, they've been very happy. 228 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,440 >> I just know I'm already planning on 229 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,160 seeing a large increase from just 230 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,119 looking at trash this time around. Yeah, 231 00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:22,720 I do think it's definitely something we 232 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,960 might have to anticipate when we do get 233 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,160 to a part of the contract that they do 234 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,200 have an option to increase prices. 235 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960 >> How many more street lights do we have 236 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520 to convert to LED? 237 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,320 >> Oh, you mean for that LED conversion 238 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,800 project? 239 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,320 >> Yeah, 240 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,240 >> I can try to look up the number while 241 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,920 we're here, but I mean I have that 242 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,599 contract now from them, so I have that 243 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:46,720 information. It's most of our 244 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,119 neighborhoods are still on the are not 245 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,160 LED, so That was a few years ago. It 246 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,520 kind of became the standard for new 247 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,359 construction. So, I think our our most 248 00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:57,359 recent subdivisions have LED, but all of 249 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:00,560 the older ones once prior to that don't. 250 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,560 >> We have an idea once we get them 251 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,160 converted what our street light power 252 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,839 bill will drop to. 253 00:39:05,839 --> 00:39:09,040 >> I don't have that number, but Pacific 254 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,000 Power did a U return on investment and 255 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,280 they said we would we would see that 256 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,400 return in three years. 257 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,520 >> Okay. 258 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400 >> Yeah. So, it's pretty good. I remember 259 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,880 in council we talked about that and it 260 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,400 seemed like it was a no-brainer. 261 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680 >> It was because it it paid back within 262 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,119 >> pretty short period of time. 263 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,440 >> Yeah. The total project cost is like 23 264 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400 24,000 and about half of it's paid for 265 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,079 through the energy trust incentive. So 266 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,640 the remainder will come back in about 3 267 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,480 years. So 268 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,800 >> quick 269 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,359 and speaking of the power. 270 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,599 So we're going to spend 10k less than 271 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:50,320 current for the street light power. 272 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,040 >> So look at the actual in the prior year 273 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,000 I think. Um 274 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,280 so the actual in 2425 was 46. We 275 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680 budgeted 55 this year. We're not on 276 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160 track to spend 55. So we budgeted next 277 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,760 year based on what we're on track to 278 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,320 spend this year. That make sense? And I 279 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,000 mean I know we're talking about saving 280 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,440 too with the LED, but that was with just 281 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,960 cost of electric also increasing. It's 282 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,079 >> Yeah, I mean we 283 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,200 didn't budget that based on an a 284 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,960 significant cost savings we're expecting 285 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,800 from the LED conversion. It's based on 286 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,119 what we're seeing right now. 287 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,920 >> Yeah, we wanted to see an actual figure 288 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,079 of costs, I think, before we account for 289 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,480 that. 290 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,359 Um I think Other things to know, the 291 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:41,680 crosswalks is the one at Noel that we 292 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,520 talked about and the sidewalk and fill 293 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,560 that morning star 294 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,280 just in case those weren't clear. Um, we 295 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,560 want to go to the next page. Okay. Uh, 296 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,800 so the next page, 297 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,880 uh, it shows our SDC. Um, well, no, that 298 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,960 was 299 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,119 that's the transfer. Yeah, the transfer. 300 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,119 Um, 301 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,240 >> I'm gonna add something there real 302 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,560 quick. um on all of the transfers to the 303 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,319 FDC's 304 00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:12,560 this version which is a PDF we made you 305 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,319 know originally just shows it as one 306 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:16,000 line in the budget now which I'll show 307 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,839 you when we pull up the spreadsheet 308 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,160 we've broken that down into the SBCI and 309 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,400 R components just so it's shown clearly 310 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,880 in the in the tracking there's no change 311 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040 to the budgeting it's just how we wanted 312 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960 to show the breakdown in every spot so 313 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,960 it's clear that what's I's and what's 314 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,630 oursc Yep. 315 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,960 Um, so going to the SDC for free fund. 316 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,359 Unless you wanted to talk about anything 317 00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:49,200 in our street fun just out that 318 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,240 amount. 319 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:57,589 >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, so uh we do have our 320 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,400 » two 200 200. Yeah, there it is. the 321 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880 reserve uh just over 200,000 which is 322 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,000 what I believe we were requested to do 323 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680 for future projects. So 324 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,200 >> like we said before, we can adjust that 325 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,920 as we go. 326 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,200 >> Hickham, 327 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,599 >> what was that? 328 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:14,800 >> I think that was your suggestion 329 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,599 >> for what? How 330 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,760 >> street fund 200 plus thousands looks 331 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400 like it's 200 what? Four or 332 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,240 >> Yeah. 333 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,240 to reserve for future projects 334 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,720 that you know to have that 335 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:27,839 >> there. We talked about that 336 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:29,440 >> a fund set. 337 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280 >> Yeah. You thought be good to have that 338 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,309 fun set aside for future project? 339 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:40,960 All right, I think it's good the 340 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,760 starting point. 341 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,839 >> Yeah, it's something to put there that 342 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:44,720 we have. 343 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,720 >> Yeah, I won't build many miles of road, 344 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,079 but 345 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,599 >> but I mean if it's something we can add 346 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:51,839 on to every single year it starts to 347 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:52,800 build. 348 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,280 >> Exactly. 349 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,640 >> All right. Good idea. 350 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,440 >> Um our street SDC fund. So this is the 351 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,280 new fund created um to have our uh 352 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,560 accounting in order. Yep. Um and the 353 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,599 things to note are the transfers in um 354 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,440 right here uh we have the grant 355 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,400 reimbursements the transition parkway um 356 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,000 under the transfer in from economic 357 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,119 development fund the SDCR 358 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:22,800 um and just in case you don't remember 359 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,160 from last time we talked about it's just 360 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,319 due to the due to the timing of the 361 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:28,640 grant reimbursement process those funds 362 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,319 are going to come in in the next fiscal 363 00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:33,119 year. Um, so we're just going to move 364 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,920 them over there. 365 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,599 >> Um, and then for expenditures, uh, we 366 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,839 have our Woods Road shared use path 367 00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:45,200 that's going to cover the rest of design 368 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,119 and potentially uh, startup uh, startup 369 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,359 construction. Uh, it's broken up into 370 00:43:51,359 --> 00:43:55,359 two SDCR and SDCI funds. And then also 371 00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:58,160 we have our Waverly Drive Hawk Creek 372 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,839 Bridge replacement which is going to be 373 00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:01,119 taking place this summer. that will 374 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,760 cover all of construction uh for our 375 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,200 share of the project. The bridge will 376 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,800 not actually cost 400,000. That's just 377 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,040 our uh our match. 378 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,800 >> I'm not going to hold you to it, but 379 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,760 approximately what are those RNI fees, 380 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,440 balances 6040, 50/50? What do we 381 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,000 >> or how are they broken out? Yeah. 4555. 382 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,270 >> Okay. 383 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,520 » On the which road 384 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,760 >> multi-use? Yeah, it's it's 385 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,680 >> it's calculated on a project. 386 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,480 >> Yeah. Yeah. 387 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,400 >> The when the fees come in, there is a 388 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,359 percent split on those and 389 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:40,960 >> I don't know that we don't have it 390 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960 listed in here, but we can get you that 391 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,599 number. Each project has its own split 392 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,160 of how much you can spend from ISRs on 393 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,319 it. So, Woods Road multi path, we're 394 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,520 splitting those bills every month. 395 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,190 I just didn't. 396 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,400 » Yeah. 397 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,760 >> So, I have a question on the streets 398 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400 >> and maybe it's not 399 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,079 maybe it shouldn't be in this account 400 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,079 but Waverly. 401 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:14,720 Um, where are we and are we not focusing 402 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,720 in trying to connect Waverly? And and 403 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:19,920 the reason I asked is should we be 404 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160 budgeting something in there? I know we 405 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,079 can probably work something out just 406 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,640 with the roundabout, giving part of the 407 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,800 roundabout to them in a swap for the 408 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,040 piece we want to connect, but I don't 409 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,400 know if there's a cost piece that we 410 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,359 should budget for it in there. 411 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:36,800 >> So, we're talking about the culde-sac at 412 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,400 the end of Waverly and the Ballards that 413 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,680 are there and actually connect. So past 414 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,560 discussions on that have been we'll make 415 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560 that connection and open those up one 416 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,119 when we get the property to do so and 417 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:54,319 two when Waverly is improved. So Waverly 418 00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:57,119 is if you've been out there you know the 419 00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:02,960 road's in really bad shape. Um so that's been the historic thinking on 420 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680 that. Um and then we'll get to it in 421 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,520 water but we don't have water down Wley. 422 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,520 So that's one of the future projects. We 423 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,800 won't get to it in the budget this year 424 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,160 than the CIP. 425 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,240 >> We discussed it too that we need to put 426 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,240 in water first or at the same time. 427 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:19,680 >> So I guess to answer your question, I 428 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,400 would say 429 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,800 >> later. 430 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359 >> I I think it's a little later unless 431 00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:25,359 there's some reason you think we need to 432 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:26,480 get that 433 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,480 >> but faster than what ODOT does there. 434 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,319 >> Yeah. 435 00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:31,359 >> Right. Like in our life. 436 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:33,359 >> Not like today, but faster than OD. 437 00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:39,589 >> Okay. That's a pretty big window. 438 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,589 public record. 439 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,520 » It'll be done before the bridge over 440 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,349 stuff 441 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:52,400 » for the second time in my life. 442 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,079 >> All right. Are there any other questions 443 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,960 on um streets for STC and the street 444 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960 fund? I know that one's probably the 445 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,960 more most interesting one. 446 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,160 Right. We'll go on to storm water uh 447 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,560 which is a gigantic fund. That's 448 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,640 sarcastic. Um so here we have our uh 449 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,520 resources which is just from the general 450 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,200 fund. Um it doesn't have except we do 451 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,960 now have um permit fees which in here it 452 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,800 says connection charges. We're going to 453 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,280 update that to say permit fees because 454 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,280 we do have a 455 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680 post construction storm quality water 456 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,440 permit that now has well we have had 457 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,920 that but it now has a fee associated 458 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,040 which is very small 459 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,560 >> and we still could get connection fees. 460 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,480 We're just going to combine these as um 461 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,400 they're both considered permit fees. 462 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,480 >> Yeah. 463 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,240 So primarily it's from uh resources from 464 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,880 general fund and then we show our SBC 465 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,950 transfer 466 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,920 that's all for resources. 467 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,240 Then going down to the next page for 468 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,760 expenditures. 469 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,440 Um we have our basic um 470 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,440 uh sorry maintenance uh material 471 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,680 services that we need to do to maintain 472 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,040 the system. And we have one project um 473 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,880 under capital outlay which is going to 474 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,000 be the inlet rec reconfiguration on 475 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040 Millersburg Drive at Ther. 476 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,880 And then everything else you see is just 477 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,520 how our funds are distributed between uh 478 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,040 Well, I guess that's good to note. I 479 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,960 didn't note it on the streets. That's 480 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,720 there's a breakdown of percentages of um 481 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:41,200 I guess our wages, but personnel costs 482 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,720 go to and some of the funds. 483 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,240 >> Yes, ma'am. 484 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,839 >> Um just curious on the inspect and clean 485 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:48,880 catch basin. 486 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,680 >> Yes. 487 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,319 >> Is that budget large enough? I would 488 00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:54,000 assume and and I'm assuming that it's 489 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,280 just because we're going to do less, but 490 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,440 I would think what do we not want to 491 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,160 increase it? Well, to account for the 492 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,640 large storms we had this last winter. 493 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,599 Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so 494 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,240 primarily the reason why it was so high 495 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,559 last year and the year prior is because 496 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,280 we had to do catch basin cleaning for 497 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,400 our entire system. Uh, it hadn't it 498 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,319 needed to be done. uh and it was at the 499 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:20,640 end of a window to get that completed to 500 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,520 comply with our MS4 permit. Um so we'll 501 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,559 still be doing cleaning um and 502 00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,640 inspection, but now we're going to be 503 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,400 going uh we're going to be primarily 504 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,880 targeting different parts of the system 505 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,040 and it won't be as expensive. 506 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,359 >> So but we will Yes, we will continue. 507 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:40,800 >> So be like on the street schedule 508 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,599 there'll be a section done every or the 509 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:44,720 three years or whatever. 510 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,400 >> Yeah. So, we'll do we'll probably break 511 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,440 it up into two years again and it's on 512 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,440 every five year, but I am going to 513 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520 monitor them to see if some need to be 514 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,760 certain ones need to be done more often. 515 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,680 Um, but now that they're all clean, it's 516 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,280 easy to tell how quickly things are 517 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,000 filling up. 518 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000 >> So, you that's to schedule those every 519 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,240 maybe half the city, one year, half the 520 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,640 city, the other five years, and then 521 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,599 >> three years off and then 522 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:08,960 >> three years off. 523 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,280 >> Okay. 524 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,559 >> Yeah. But we did I mean in this year we 525 00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,760 have spent a fair bit of that budgeted 526 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,640 money for the cleaning and teething 527 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,319 pipes and the inlets and things to 528 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:21,440 address some things that were found 529 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,880 during that flooding event. 530 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,559 >> Right. Okay. And so maybe we already 531 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:25,680 have and that's kind of what I was 532 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,520 curious on is you know is there stuff we 533 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,720 want to get in there to check this 534 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:30,079 summer just to see if it's 535 00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:30,559 >> Yep. 536 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,040 >> got washed in there during the storms. 537 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,000 >> Yeah. and we increased our um clean and 538 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,440 TV pipes for some of that reason. We 539 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,040 want to get a better idea of what's 540 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,200 going on. So, our plan is that will 541 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,520 probably stay around 30. We'll see how 542 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,520 much it costs this year and how much we 543 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,839 could do for that much. Uh we'd like to 544 00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:52,480 get the whole system TV over a period of 545 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,400 time and we'll adjust it for next year 546 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,480 based on how that goes. So, 547 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,119 it's just good to know because like what 548 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,960 happened this uh last December, there 549 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,079 were a few uh parts of our system that 550 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,200 had some damage that we were unaware of. 551 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,880 >> You get to inspect and find out that 552 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,680 during a flood. 553 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,280 >> Yeah, 554 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,079 >> like we said before, like that event was 555 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,079 so much greater than the design storm. 556 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:20,400 We did expect to see things back up and 557 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,839 that's what happened. But there are some 558 00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,520 areas that came to our attention that 559 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,960 could be better. So, we want to make 560 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,119 them better. Yeah. 561 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,119 The flooding was not just because 562 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,520 it was just a few unexpected. 563 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,440 All right. Uh any other questions on 564 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,520 that? That's a pretty straightforward 565 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,000 easy fund. 566 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,480 And then 567 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,760 I guess also we have our um transfers 568 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,319 and then our new USDC fund for storm 569 00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:48,079 water which has no projects in it right 570 00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:51,680 now. Maybe in the future. 571 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,200 All right. 572 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,680 Keep going to w Oh, sewer. Sorry. 573 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,160 Going to wastewater. Uh they you have 574 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,680 our fund narrative here. Are there any 575 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,800 you had any chance to review it? Are 576 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000 there any questions on 577 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:16,790 projects or any of the narrative portion? 578 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,309 No budget for storm water or for 579 00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:24,960 30. 580 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,319 Are we passing? We're not on that one 581 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:27,520 yet. Are we already through with it? 582 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,599 Sorry. 583 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:30,640 >> Just slow at reading 584 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,829 >> this one. 585 00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:35,440 » Oh. Oh, yeah. Because we have no 586 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,119 project. 587 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,359 >> And not very much money in there, 588 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:47,270 >> right? Project would be very small. 589 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,040 There's no questions on the narrative 590 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,880 which you can go back and ask still even 591 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,200 if we go on I'll go on to the resources. 592 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,119 So we have um our resources which is 593 00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:02,240 primarily uh user fees um billing uh and 594 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:08,400 uh we have some other small resources uh in here and then 595 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,230 below that we have our STC transfer 596 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,440 and continuing on to expenditures. 597 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,680 Uh oh yeah. Okay. Um we have all these 598 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,559 are um what we need to maintain the 599 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,040 system. The on andm sewer plant and on 600 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,000 andm um collection systems that's uh 601 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,839 through Albany. 602 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:34,559 We got our we get our coordinating bills 603 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,119 through that and their planned uh their 604 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,440 planned work through that. 605 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,520 Uh 606 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,839 I'll point out here the last line there 607 00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:47,920 the Albany Millersburg water reclamation 608 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,880 facility legal fees are sign the budget 609 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,960 the budgeted amount is significant this 610 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,200 year and that is this is the talking 611 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,440 water gardens litigation that's going 612 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,760 on. Um 613 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,160 if it goes to trial within the next year 614 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,880 this is our anticipated amount share of 615 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,599 the co legal costs. It's unlikely that's 616 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:10,800 going to happen because things move 617 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,720 really slowly to the courts, but we 618 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,079 wanted to make sure we budgeted enough 619 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:16,240 in case we ended up. 620 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,599 >> How much are we talking about? 621 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:20,240 >> It's $200,000 in the budget right now 622 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:23,520 and we are a 10% share of the total. So, 623 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,920 that gives you an idea of how much 624 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,280 potential legal fees they're 625 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520 anticipating if it went to goes to 626 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,589 trial. 627 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:35,839 I think we'll probably talk further of 628 00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:37,680 that and 629 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,160 >> next week we have an exact session. 630 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,200 We'll update. 631 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,280 >> Yeah, there'll be an update Ray on that. 632 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,280 But that's just so you know. 633 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,470 >> Yeah. 634 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,839 » So, moving on, we have 635 00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:51,760 >> So, the on andm it's about the same from 636 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,760 last year. I just saw that seems 637 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,480 reasonable. 638 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,280 >> Yeah, I think 639 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,400 >> we're on track now. I see the dip. I 640 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400 mean, obviously a year ago we saw a 641 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,240 double, more than double, 642 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,559 >> right? that um 643 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,480 >> I'm not sure what you mean. 644 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,440 >> Um 645 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,599 >> 25 is 85,000. This 25.6 we budgeted 646 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:12,400 190,000. 647 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,640 >> Yeah. 648 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,400 >> Oh, that's because we weren't realizing 649 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,040 the actual cost. 650 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,720 >> That's those actual costs that we're 651 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:17,359 seeing now. 652 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:18,800 >> Well, this is the sewer collection 653 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,400 system. So, this is the work we direct 654 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,559 Albany to do. Manhole inspections, 655 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:25,760 repairs, um TVing, that kind of thing. 656 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,640 >> Uh so, we anticipated spending about 657 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,559 190,000 this year. I don't I don't 658 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:32,079 remember without looking back at our 659 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:33,680 actuals how we're tracking on that. 660 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,480 We're low. 661 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,640 >> We're tracking lower than that. Um for 662 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040 next year, you know, we want to put this 663 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,319 >> put a safe number 664 00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:41,680 >> in there 665 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,880 >> because 666 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,200 >> yeah, if we can do some more TVing. 667 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,800 Another thing that saved us money this 668 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,720 year over what we budgeted is Albany has 669 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,040 a different technology for TVing lines. 670 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,359 Yeah. 671 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:52,559 >> That's expensive because it's labor 672 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,880 intensive. Now they've got this acoustic 673 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,760 um 674 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,240 >> method that is a screening tool and then 675 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,240 they can TV it if it indicates there's a 676 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,839 problem. So we're seeing some cost 677 00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:03,839 savings because of that. 678 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,839 >> They have a new tool do that. 679 00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:07,760 >> Well, it's it's not brand new but it's 680 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,920 new to newish 681 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,319 to us. 682 00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:11,520 >> We get to use it. 683 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,630 >> Yeah. 684 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,920 » Yep. Um and then continuing down on the 685 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040 rest of the program um 686 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,319 uh expenditures uh we have the uh Albany 687 00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:29,200 studies here that's um feasibility 688 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,160 studies for chlorination UV um for our 689 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,400 part and then also uh Albany is doing a 690 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,839 sewer master plan update and we're 691 00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:42,559 we have our share in that as well. Let's 692 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,960 get back up to the previous page. We 693 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,240 have a study for 12,000 on the rates. 694 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,839 >> When was the last time we did a rate 695 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:53,349 study? 696 00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:57,910 » Um, it was 697 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,030 201 698 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920 19ish 20. 699 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,000 It was we did the study. We're at the 700 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,480 end of the five years of the increases 701 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,319 that it recommended, right? We talked 702 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,000 about that. And so the study started a 703 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,640 year year 18 months before that. believe 704 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,559 it was it was all happening in CO was 705 00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,720 going on I believe so that slowed things 706 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,079 down but yeah 707 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:25,280 >> the date 120 192 708 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,880 >> so you'll see that underwater as well 709 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,400 because it'll be a water sewer rate 710 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,119 study and we're also going to before we 711 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,640 come to you with proposal for actually 712 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,319 contracting that um there are some 713 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:37,760 things that we want to look into as far 714 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,559 as about some 715 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:42,640 company that has a computer program that 716 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,880 would be maybe a different way of 717 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,400 looking at this and give us more 718 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,559 ability to adjust things ourselves going 719 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,160 forward in the future. More a little 720 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,280 more set up cost, but then um 721 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,280 >> cost ongoing cost would be lower and 722 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,079 might have some benefits. But we have to 723 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:01,839 do some more homework on that. But some 724 00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,599 other local communities are using that 725 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,359 and really liking it. 726 00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:05,839 >> Yeah. 727 00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:08,160 >> Then that would remove the necessary for 728 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,720 study just you just use the software. 729 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,040 Well, we would it would be the study the 730 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,720 first year, right? Anyway, for getting 731 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,079 it all set up and they have people, it's 732 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,280 not just software. You're not just on 733 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,799 your own use it. They have people who 734 00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:20,640 will do it for you. But after that 735 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,960 initial year, if you just keep putting 736 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,520 your data in uh every year, then you 737 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,240 don't have this big effort to to every 738 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,240 five years or seven years or whatever it 739 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640 is to pull all your data and do this big 740 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,839 exercise. It's just an ongoing thing. Uh 741 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:38,720 is doing it. Lebanon has been doing it 742 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,440 and loves it. stuff. 743 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,640 >> All right, more to come. Cool. 744 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,319 >> Right. Um then in the capital projects 745 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:52,880 here, um the primarily um the wastewater 746 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,119 treatment plant that's with Albany, 747 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,200 that's our share for these projects. We 748 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,240 are um updating 749 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,319 two of them. We met with Albany last was 750 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:02,960 that last week? 751 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,200 >> Yeah. 752 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,280 last week. And they did let us 753 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,000 know that um there were two other well 754 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,319 one project um for doing a pump at 755 00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:15,040 Talking Waters Fox Creek uh was going to 756 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,760 be needed. So the 7,000 miscellaneous 757 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,720 projects will be need to bump that up 758 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000 20,000 to 27,000. 759 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,200 Um and then they are doing uh fire 760 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,760 panels as well which is actually a 761 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,200 carryover from from previous but it it 762 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,280 will be 15 instead of 10 like they 763 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,920 originally estimated for our share. 764 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,760 >> And we'll pull up the actual budget 765 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,119 spreadsheet here once we finish going 766 00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,160 through this and we'll show you the 767 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,400 numbers in that um next column over 768 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,079 because we want to make sure that I mean 769 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,839 that's what we're asking you to approve 770 00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:51,440 tonight with those charges, right? 771 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,280 But 772 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,480 um that's what we're expecting um as far 773 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,640 as the treatment plant goes. And then 774 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,640 for construction, we have our lift 775 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,680 station um upgrade, which what 776 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,680 they upgrades. Well, it's our it's our 777 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:14,630 manhole um rehab project at the ATI. 778 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,720 » Yes. 779 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,319 >> I guess you're not there. It's an 780 01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:20,240 exception to the capital outlay. all 781 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,280 that debt. What debt do we have? 782 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,240 >> Debt, sir. 783 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,960 >> And how much with the balance we're 784 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,400 carrying or why don't we pay off some of 785 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,359 that debt? 786 01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:32,319 >> So, so the debt we have there is from 787 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,000 the treatment plant construction years 788 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,760 ago, right? And we've had this for a 789 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,599 long time. So, we did put some notes in 790 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,359 here. The first one which is debt 791 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:40,799 service to Albony. So, when that 792 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:43,920 happened, um there was an agreement 793 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,200 between the two cities. They would get 794 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,119 the loan for the plant. We got the loan 795 01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:48,400 for talking water gardens. So if you 796 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,920 notice up in revenue, we're getting 797 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,200 there their there's maintenance for 798 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,240 their portion of that loan. Um payoff 799 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,000 for the one for the treatment plant to 800 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,520 Albany is in October 2029. So we're 801 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,839 coming up on that. And then the wetland 802 01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:03,839 loan payment to the EQ is pay off in 803 01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:06,480 August 2031. So that's the one pays us 804 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,440 their share of. Um 805 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,400 these are really low interest um loans 806 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,920 because they're through the SPWS 807 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,160 program. So we could look at that. We 808 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,920 might recall we refinanced. We had a 809 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,079 water loan, too, which is now paid off 810 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,319 as of a year and a half ago. Um, we 811 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:26,400 refinanced that water loan a few years 812 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,839 ago and got when interest rates were 813 01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:32,160 really low and got a great rate on that 814 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,240 and that one's all paid off now. So, we 815 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640 can look at that. But I think in from 816 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,680 the uh past, the reason we aren't just 817 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,079 paying it off wholesale is that the 818 01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:43,920 rates are lower than the interest we're 819 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,760 making on the money. So, well, you can 820 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,520 see the interest that we have on the 821 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,200 DEQ1 822 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,640 in the light. Yeah. 823 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,079 >> Yeah. I'm just looking at the line at 824 01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:53,760 345,000 825 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,240 the Albany. That's 826 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,359 quite a bit. 827 01:01:57,359 --> 01:02:01,520 >> Yeah, that's it's been um as you can see 828 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,839 on the left here, the the principal's 829 01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,240 been going up and the interest 830 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,720 the interest's been going down. There is 831 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,480 so as we approach the end of this. 832 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,400 >> Well, we only have three more years. 833 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:14,720 Yeah. 834 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,680 >> Yeah. 835 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,160 >> And we're earning more in our reserve 836 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:18,880 than 837 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,400 >> I'd have to look at the actual numbers, 838 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,000 but that's typical with these low 839 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,000 interest loans. So that's why cities 840 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,559 just 841 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:26,400 >> And it's them until they're paid off. 842 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,680 >> It's been a while, but I thought that 843 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,440 was financed at less than 2%. 844 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,400 >> I thought so, too. 845 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,160 >> I I could pull it out right around 846 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,880 there. 847 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,920 >> It's real low. 848 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,319 >> Yeah. 849 01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:36,160 >> But what is the line debt service to 850 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,359 Albany? 851 01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:40,000 >> That's our portion of So we can't just 852 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,680 go pay it off because that Alman is the 853 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,599 holder of that loan. That's our portion 854 01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,599 of the loan that they got. So, it's our 855 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:47,599 10% basically. 856 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:49,520 >> I I guess I'm struggling with the I'm 857 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,040 not understanding why our budget for 858 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,880 that line's going up every year instead 859 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,599 of down 860 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,599 >> because you we had to we have to 861 01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:56,880 separate out the principal and the 862 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,640 interest in here. So, add together debt 863 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,079 service to Albany and interest payment 864 01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:02,240 to Albany and the total is going down a 865 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,640 little bit, but the split is going more 866 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,280 to principal and less to interest. 867 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,680 So maybe if we labeled that principal 868 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,839 service to 869 01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:16,240 Albany and then interest to Alman. 870 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:16,799 >> Yep. 871 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:18,799 >> Because if you track those years, the 872 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:20,720 payment's the same, but the interest is 873 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,240 dropping and the principal side's going 874 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,640 up. 875 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,430 >> Yeah. 876 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,520 » If you're interested, I can pull up the 877 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,280 debt service schedule. So we have 878 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,640 meetings are all on the spreadsheet and 879 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,319 we can see how they lay out. 880 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:37,680 >> I don't need it. Yeah, I mean you 881 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,119 telling me that the loans lower it that 882 01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,280 makes sense 883 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,109 over my per 884 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:48,880 that was done back when I was doing the 885 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:55,440 audit. So it's old as hills. Yeah, 886 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,390 almost. 887 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,400 » And then uh so next um after the debt 888 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,039 services we have um our transfer or our 889 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:10,400 personnel services as well. the 890 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,920 breakdown of that percentage wise. 891 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,880 Then we have operating contingency and 892 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,359 then the leftovers from our SDC which is 893 01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:25,039 in the next um next bit. We also have 894 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:27,680 I'd like to point out the u future 895 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,559 project or reserve account. we have that 896 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:34,640 um for $4.7 million because as we talked 897 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,920 about we have quite a bit of um big 898 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,599 projects to take on in the future coming 899 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:46,160 up like running the new line down to the treatment plant 900 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,559 >> and the compost and watering projects of 901 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,920 the treatment plant. There's other 902 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,720 um one thing point out on this that will 903 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,640 be different going forward is this 904 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,799 reserve for future projects used to 905 01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:00,799 include the SDC's. Now that we're 906 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:02,000 breaking that out, you can see those 907 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,720 numbers separately. Um so we have this 908 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,319 is this balance here is unrestricted in 909 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:10,799 terms of capital and SDC projects. We 910 01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:12,480 can use it in the sewer fund for 911 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,280 whatever they like to uh the 1.6 million 912 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,200 that we're transferring to the STC's 913 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,319 that's again restricted STC It's a story 914 01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:24,079 with the ATI lift station. 915 01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:26,160 >> Oh, that is going to be in the SDC fund 916 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,760 now because it's we can use SDC money 917 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,559 for that. 918 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:31,920 >> I mean, I'm just asking. So, we got it 919 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,680 there, but there's no nothing, 920 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720 >> right? Because this is our uh sewer fund 921 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,599 and then but we're paying uh for through 922 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,000 our SDC sewers or sewer SDC fund which 923 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,599 is on this next page. 924 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:45,920 >> So, it's just it's a leftover here. 925 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:46,799 Yeah, we just 926 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:48,480 >> what you see with the capital outlay 927 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,520 SDCR SDCI um because there are no 928 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,039 expenditures in the last three years in 929 01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:54,880 that we can get rid of that now but when 930 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,440 we first set up the budget we weren't 931 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,920 planning to separate out the SDC's now 932 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,520 >> and that was my that was my question 933 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,720 like there's nothing 934 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,000 >> uh it's right here 935 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,319 >> just protocol 936 01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:11,359 >> yeah but it for actual 937 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:12,880 getting the project done and paying for 938 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,720 things it's in the STC fund now So and 939 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,559 um that is the project we have uh in 940 01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:22,480 this section. We got our transfer in and 941 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,240 then that which is going to pay for both 942 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,680 the design and procuring the pumps uh to 943 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,510 as we go into construction. 944 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,520 Any question on sewer at all 945 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,640 that we have? 946 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,750 Absolutely. 947 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,160 Yeah. 948 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,720 All right, go on to water. We got our 949 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,400 fun narrative here. Um, any questions on 950 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,119 that 951 01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:01,750 strategic priorities? 952 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,839 I'm assuming water takes into account 953 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:07,839 our our freeze on that increases. 954 01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:12,549 >> Yes. Yes, it does. 955 01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:13,200 It's 956 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:13,680 >> yeah, 957 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:14,960 >> what you're seeing there is based on 958 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,559 what we're getting this year. 959 01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:20,319 >> Yeah, the the resources. Yeah, it's 960 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,319 based on what we're thinking is going to 961 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,960 happen. And it's also I mean more water 962 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,839 is getting used. 963 01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:28,559 >> Yeah, it's there will be increased water 964 01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:31,359 use from fall that we didn't bump it up 965 01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:33,839 a lot for that. We don't, you know, we 966 01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:36,480 don't want to until we see what the 967 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,079 actual usage is. We don't want to start 968 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,079 to count on that revenue, but we will 969 01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:43,680 see increases in the usage. 970 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,119 >> All right. So, those are that's how 971 01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,480 we're we're funded there. Um, and then 972 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,880 we have our SDC 973 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,599 um transfer right there. So, then next 974 01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:59,119 page, material services. Uh we do have 975 01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:01,920 we did expect more need for uh 976 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,319 consulting engineering for that. 977 01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:09,119 Then uh we go right into operation 978 01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,839 maintenance which is our partnership 979 01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:16,719 with Albany. Once again um those are 980 01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:18,319 costs that we either call for or that 981 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:21,279 they're due for us. 982 01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:26,239 think there's not uh 983 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:28,319 trying to see if there's anything that I 984 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,759 feel like would be something to stand up 985 01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:33,679 and answer questions about 986 01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:35,279 >> the operation and maintenance of the 987 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:38,400 treatment plant is still we're budgeting 988 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,920 for more next year than what we did this 989 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,319 year because this this is that area 990 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,080 where they were undercharging us for a 991 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,359 while. We've been trying to get through 992 01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,279 a full year. It's been more than a full 993 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:50,960 year now, but of of billing under this 994 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,880 new cycle and it's just it's a little 995 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,880 more than we anticipated this year. So, 996 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,159 we're going to bump that up for next 997 01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,960 year. Hopefully, it's settled out, but 998 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,400 water costs are going up because 999 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,279 chemical costs go up and all of those 1000 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:04,560 things. 1001 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,120 >> So, one question 1002 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,120 for the water fund. Um, 1003 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,759 I noticed that our future projects 1004 01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:17,440 amount has dropped by uh little less 1005 01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:19,440 than 400k 1006 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:22,319 from this current fiscal year to our 1007 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,719 upcoming fiscal year. 1008 01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:26,799 And what it looks like is we're just 1009 01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:29,040 balancing our future projects with what 1010 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,120 cash is remaining, 1011 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,679 hoping that that future project is 1012 01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:37,520 actually capturing our total mean. So 1013 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,159 even if we're going to show a projected 1014 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:42,000 negative balance, 1015 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,799 >> we can't we can't show negative balances 1016 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:48,239 in our in our budget. We we have to 1017 01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:50,799 equal zero. All our resources have to 1018 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:55,040 equal all our uh requirements. 1019 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,880 >> But then 1020 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,080 >> I just don't like to throw in a future 1021 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,000 project and say, "Oh, we have 100,000 1022 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,159 left. So, but it just so we're spending 1023 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:07,199 everything. We'll just say the project. 1024 01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:08,640 >> That's standard budgeting. 1025 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,719 >> That's doesn't make it right. 1026 01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:14,550 >> Well, it doesn't. 1027 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,880 No, that's not law. You don't have to 1028 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,120 spend every penny 1029 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,280 because you can see we have it. This 1030 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,880 budget is unappropriated. 1031 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,199 >> Budget law requires you to show it as a 1032 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:26,560 future projects, 1033 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,840 >> right? 1034 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,679 >> So, how it's always worked in our budget 1035 01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,000 is you're right. those prior years show 1036 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,360 is unappropriated because we say these 1037 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,840 are our reserves but when we get back 1038 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,880 here it's just it's all one one bucket. 1039 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,640 It's the same it's the same amount of 1040 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,640 money that was shown in future projects 1041 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,560 that's now shown as unappropriated in 1042 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,440 prior years. Um, so that's no change 1043 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:52,159 from what we've always done. And we've 1044 01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:53,840 shown it as future projects instead of 1045 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,440 unappropriated because we're trying to 1046 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,600 say, look, we have a backlog, not a 1047 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,600 backlog, but a plan for future projects 1048 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,600 that is greater than a need that is 1049 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,360 greater than what we have here. So all 1050 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,600 this money is needed for future projects 1051 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,000 and more. You're right. And more is 1052 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,000 needed for future projects, but we're in 1053 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,480 the budget saying there isn't money here 1054 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,800 that's just extra we don't need. We need 1055 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,800 this and this is what it's for. And I 1056 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,719 think I'm okay with that as long as we 1057 01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:21,920 have something that shows a list of our 1058 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,000 future projects that 1059 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,840 >> Yeah. And that's the idea that amount. 1060 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:26,719 So 1061 01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:28,400 >> it's actually greater than that. 1062 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,480 >> It's quite Didn't we do that in March? 1063 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:31,120 >> Yes, we did. 1064 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,199 >> We did. And and we could have said this 1065 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:34,719 at the beginning, but I hope everybody 1066 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:36,480 remembers at this meeting at the end, 1067 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,199 we're going to ask you to approve the 1068 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:40,880 budget as modified with whatever you 1069 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,199 guys change and the CIP and uh recommend 1070 01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,600 for adoption to council at the June 1071 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,600 meeting. 1072 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,320 >> That was that wish list in the CIP that 1073 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,640 you talked about quite a bit about 1074 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,199 >> want to make sure that the amounts are 1075 01:11:57,199 --> 01:11:59,040 >> our balance because if they're not I'd 1076 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,640 rather have some of it in the 1077 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,920 unappropriated but if we need more then 1078 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,080 >> yeah and I'd have to pull up the water 1079 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,080 but I'm very confident in saying that 1080 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,840 our five years worth of projects and 1081 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,239 water is more than the 2.16. So it's not 1082 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:13,840 even getting to that wish list of 1083 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,920 unfunded projects. It's 1084 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,120 just the one that they're playing in 1085 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,189 five years. 1086 01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:24,719 Okay. 1087 01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:26,480 Scared me. 1088 01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:32,149 All right. Other questions on water. 1089 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:35,510 All right. 1090 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,800 » All right. 1091 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,679 And then we have our water SDC uh fund 1092 01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:41,199 here 1093 01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:44,880 which goes our transfer in and don't 1094 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,120 have any projects currently planned this 1095 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:53,910 school year for that use STC funding. 1096 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,640 » All right. It's all you. Okay. Last one 1097 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,400 is the economic development fund. And 1098 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,920 um you probably recall we've talked 1099 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,280 about it multiple times. We set up this 1100 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,760 fund specifically for tracking of the 1101 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,239 costs with transition parkway and the uh 1102 01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:11,679 and development of industrial 1103 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:12,880 properties. It's not just transition 1104 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,640 parkway, but that's been the majority of 1105 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,280 the costs um and the reimbursement we're 1106 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,520 getting through grants and the future 1107 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,400 risk reimbursement that will come later 1108 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,630 down the road. So 1109 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,040 our we've got some carryover beginning 1110 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,040 fund balance because this is just about 1111 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,600 the timing of when the um the funds come 1112 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,440 in and the expenditures are going out 1113 01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:40,320 for transition parkway. 1114 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,880 The grant funds for economic development 1115 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,640 we have the SPWF will get these are the 1116 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,640 remaining funds in those grants that we 1117 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,320 can't get until the project's closed 1118 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,520 out. So this that won't happen till July 1119 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,440 probably uh we'll get them in the next 1120 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:58,159 fiscal year. So the IOF one is the big 1121 01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,159 one. That's half of the grant funds for 1122 01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:01,120 streets and that's what you saw in the 1123 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,480 street fund is getting transferred back 1124 01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:05,679 into the SDC's. 1125 01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:12,149 Any questions on that? 1126 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,000 So then we have some materials and 1127 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,840 services. We are planning some budget 1128 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,679 for wetland delineation of our 1129 01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:19,280 commercial property because that is 1130 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,880 still part of economic development. So, 1131 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,719 we thought that was appropriate to to 1132 01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:25,920 put that money in here. And still some 1133 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,080 money for engineering and and radon if 1134 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,600 needed, although I feel like that's 1135 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,679 pretty well closed out. Um, there still 1136 01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:34,400 could be some some needs if we're doing 1137 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,000 some work for the remaining industrial 1138 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,840 property and we need to get some uh 1139 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,520 expert help on that. 1140 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,600 And then the rest of the costs for 1141 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,120 construction of transition parkway are 1142 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,280 in here. 1143 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,159 the transfer out again to the street SDC 1144 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:51,760 fund 1145 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,440 and we're projecting to be left with 1146 01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,520 about $300,000. 1147 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,199 Now, 1148 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,199 we want to wait and see how all these 1149 01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:04,080 how all this ends up in the end. And 1150 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,760 whatever is left there next year, we'll 1151 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,520 probably have a discussion about what to 1152 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:08,719 do with that because the economic 1153 01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:10,560 development fund wasn't intended to 1154 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,239 build up big reserves unless they're for 1155 01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,600 a specific purpose. Um, but it was going 1156 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,360 forward now that transition parkway is 1157 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,920 done, it's intended to bring in the risk 1158 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,120 reimbursement or any other 1159 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,440 reimbursements and then be able to put 1160 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:24,719 those wherever you would like to put 1161 01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:27,199 them. So, or maybe keep some in economic 1162 01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,080 development for, you know, continued 1163 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,080 economic development activities as other 1164 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,199 projects are in. But that's where that 1165 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:36,719 stands this year. Are there any 1166 01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:41,040 questions on that fund? 1167 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,600 Is it you said 300,000 potentially? 1168 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,760 >> Yeah, we're projecting about 300,000 to 1169 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,840 be left in that fund at the end of this 1170 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,400 next year and that's in the reserves 1171 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:50,960 there 1172 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,800 >> with the commercial property could be 1173 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,400 considered development. 1174 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,199 >> Oh, sure it is. 1175 01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:58,320 >> Y and that's why this, like I said, the 1176 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,040 wetland work, the consultant work we've 1177 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,880 got up here could be more for the 1178 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,480 commercial property than the industrial 1179 01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:07,520 now. um depends how you want to want to 1180 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,120 use that. But 1181 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,280 >> and we did leave, you know, the 50,000 1182 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,960 in legal services in there because when 1183 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,159 we have um contracts when we have 1184 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,960 negotiations, we do definitely use our 1185 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,360 legal services to make sure that we're 1186 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:26,070 uh doing that correctly. 1187 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,880 So that is the end of our walkthrough of 1188 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,640 the budget. There are a couple things at 1189 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,440 the beginning we want to circle back to. 1190 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:35,520 Um, I'm going to pull up a spreadsheet 1191 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:48,630 now instead of 1192 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,840 hide the columns with our account 1193 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,080 numbers because they don't actually have 1194 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,840 to do with your review and it just makes 1195 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,159 it harder to see the screen. So, we're 1196 01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:57,920 not trying to keep anything from you. It 1197 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,320 just isn't relevant and it's hard. It's 1198 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,040 already a lot on small screen. So there 1199 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,600 were a couple questions at the last 1200 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,199 meeting and we did want to follow up on 1201 01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:09,360 those. So one question and this goes 1202 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,360 back to the presentation but someone 1203 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,960 asked how many households we have 1204 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,800 because we're talking about population. 1205 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,120 So we don't have a hard number although 1206 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,080 the census from a couple years ago did 1207 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,719 um did look at that but it's about 1208 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:26,000 1150ish at 2.79 people per household 1209 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,400 which is what our studies have said is 1210 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,640 our average for Millersburg not not 1211 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,640 county average but Millersburg average. 1212 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,800 So if you're interested in that number 1213 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,400 that's about what it works out to with 1214 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,040 our population. Okay thank you. 1215 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,080 >> Uh there was a question on the fuel 1216 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,960 filtration system. 1217 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,280 in uh in the emergency program, 1218 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,080 emergency services program. And 1219 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,640 >> yeah, 1220 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,080 >> Andrew has some information on that. I'm 1221 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,520 gonna let him talk about it because he 1222 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,560 talked with 1223 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,159 >> Andy about where that number, 1224 01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,920 >> right? So the question was what was the 1225 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:03,520 number based on and we had uh we went 1226 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,239 out for quotes. Uh we received two 1227 01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:09,280 quotes back and so that number was based 1228 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,920 on the low quote which is now expired. 1229 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,320 So we increased that number 5% to 1230 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,800 account for potentially including a 1231 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:22,550 little higher if we cost change somehow. 1232 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,360 » I mean it is it is a lot for that kind 1233 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,159 of system but this generator is worth a 1234 01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:33,750 lot of we want to protect that asset. 1235 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,040 » We'll definitely be going out for quotes 1236 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,400 again people are doing it right because 1237 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,400 we have to refresh those. Yes. So if we 1238 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,870 get better it's our best interest. 1239 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,800 So, while I appreciate your answer on 1240 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,760 the houses, 1241 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,920 >> that kind of bothers me that we can't 1242 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,960 get an exact number. Like, cities don't 1243 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,040 know how many tax residences they have 1244 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,560 in a city. 1245 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,159 >> We can't get that number from counting 1246 01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,000 to an exact number instead of us 1247 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,040 estimating. 1248 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,440 >> We could get and Matt can jump in if he 1249 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:06,719 has more information because he works 1250 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:08,480 with GIS a lot. I mean, we can get 1251 01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:09,920 number of parcels. we could get number 1252 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,120 of parcels in the residential zone. Um, 1253 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,960 and then we could manually go through 1254 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,880 and count up how many don't have houses 1255 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,280 on them and how many houses there are 1256 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,400 that are outside of the residential 1257 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,840 zone. I mean, we could get that number 1258 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,600 more accurate for you if you want to 1259 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,560 know the exact number. 1260 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,080 >> I'm just curious. It just seems weird 1261 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,080 that with today's technology, we don't 1262 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,719 have that number. 1263 01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:32,719 >> No, a number like that would exist at 1264 01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:34,880 the county, but it' probably be way less 1265 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,880 accurate than the census data, which is 1266 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,320 why we just usually rely on that. 1267 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,679 >> Yeah. No, I mean that's fine. Just like 1268 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:43,199 I said, I'm kind of shocked that 1269 01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:45,120 seems weird that you don't have any 1270 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,960 >> Mr. 1271 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,719 Question. I I was thinking we could just 1272 01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:51,679 go to our water and sewer system and we 1273 01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:53,040 have residential accounts and we have 1274 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,000 commercial accounts, 1275 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,520 >> but not everybody has a water and sewer 1276 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:56,640 account in Millersburg, 1277 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,520 >> right? Yeah. 1278 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,000 >> Yeah. So we can get at that number a num 1279 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,360 of that number several different ways 1280 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,560 and probably get you know within a few 1281 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,320 units you know from looking at different 1282 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,520 ways if that's an important number for 1283 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,199 you to know exactly. No. And I'm not 1284 01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:12,960 trying to say you guys. I'm just shocked 1285 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,280 as somewhere that number doesn't 1286 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:15,679 amazing. 1287 01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:16,960 >> The problem the problem with the county 1288 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,679 too is there might be two lots on the 1289 01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:23,360 >> tax lots. They count tax lots. 1290 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,679 >> So those numbers do exist like in the 1291 01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:27,360 census. I think they tell us how many 1292 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,600 households that sort of thing. But it's 1293 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,440 a little bit old now and we know it's 1294 01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:32,719 not 100% accurate either. 1295 01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:34,239 >> Right. 1296 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:36,800 >> Um Okay. So 1297 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,400 >> except the squishy. 1298 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,000 >> Yeah. 1299 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000 Uh you see up on the screen here, there 1300 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,679 are a couple of changes we wanted to 1301 01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:46,480 highlight. So you asked last time for a 1302 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,640 change to the uh sheriff's contracted 1303 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,960 hours, not hours, the budget for the 1304 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,199 contracted sheriff's service. So we 1305 01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,760 bumped that up and that was what we hope 1306 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,280 that we might be able to contract for 1307 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:58,480 more hours. You said let's at least 1308 01:20:58,480 --> 01:20:59,120 include budget, 1309 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,440 >> at least plan for it. Yeah, we will be 1310 01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:04,159 talking at next week at council meeting 1311 01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:07,360 about this, but whether or not they are 1312 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,120 able to get us additional hours in the 1313 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,880 coming year and they the sheriff has 1314 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,640 said probably not from a contract 1315 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,600 standpoint, we probably want to keep 1316 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,800 that extra budget in there because 1317 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,400 there's going to be an effort coming up 1318 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,239 here that's going to require some 1319 01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:21,360 additional hours from the sheriff's 1320 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,080 office. And unless we want them to um 1321 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,840 out of our contract hours, so take 1322 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,000 deputy away from the work they're doing 1323 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,320 normally, um we'll want some additional 1324 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,080 funding to be able for her to bring some 1325 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,679 folks in on overtime. And that's to 1326 01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:35,920 address an issue we'll be talking about 1327 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,320 next week, but in that part of our city 1328 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,600 that 1329 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,199 >> Well, I'm wondering is it worth having 1330 01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:42,159 her come in? 1331 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:43,120 >> She will be coming to me. 1332 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,800 >> She will be just discuss with her that 1333 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,480 hey, you know, we're willing to pay a 1334 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,320 portion of an FTE if you have other 1335 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,920 cities that are also over that you need 1336 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,400 to put pressure on. wasn't just an FTE, 1337 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,120 it was a vehicle, an FTE training and 1338 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,080 kept that stuff. 1339 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,440 >> She'll be at the next meeting to talk 1340 01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:59,440 about that issue and we can ask her 1341 01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:01,600 those questions again. Right now, she 1342 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,920 you know, it's it's a staffing thing. 1343 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,320 She's she said, "I would love to be able 1344 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,600 to give you more hours and I would like 1345 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,000 to say, you know, it's looking like in, 1346 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,159 you know, by the next year maybe we can, 1347 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,320 but I can't commit to that because we've 1348 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:16,800 thought that." 1349 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,360 >> Well, she is giving us more hours. 1350 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,280 >> Yes, she is. We're the track. 1351 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,639 >> He says he actually get really good 1352 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,560 people. 1353 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,400 >> Yeah. Um 1354 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,840 >> question that $22,000 1355 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,400 increase equates to about how many out? 1356 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,910 >> Oh, 1357 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,920 165 a month or 155? 1358 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,239 >> Yeah. 1359 01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:46,000 >> 155 I think. 1360 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,800 >> Yeah. 1361 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,910 Here, 1362 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,840 let me just do that. Oh, no. That's the 1363 01:22:53,840 --> 01:23:01,590 actual 1364 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,760 » 93 bucks. 1365 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,000 We did 1366 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,120 >> though. That's what I'm looking at. The 1367 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,719 difference is what? 21,800 or 21,500. 1368 01:23:12,719 --> 01:23:14,719 >> Yeah. 1369 01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:17,440 180. I'm just curious as to how much 1370 01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:20,800 we'd pay per hour. 1371 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:21,360 Uh 1372 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,120 >> that's probably a pretty good estimate 1373 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,520 though consider if if we tried to zero 1374 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,159 out what we're going over every month 1375 01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:30,800 about 15 12 15 1376 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,120 >> a month over 1377 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,440 >> not every month I mean it varies but on 1378 01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:36,480 we 1379 01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:36,800 >> below 1380 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,000 >> there was a big spike and then yeah 1381 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,080 >> and and her big concern as she's shared 1382 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,600 with you before is she doesn't want to 1383 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,440 commit to something and then not be 1384 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,520 right she she's not saying on average we 1385 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,719 get there she wants to hit it every 1386 01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:49,520 month Right. 1387 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,840 >> Right. So that's what 1388 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,199 >> Yeah, that's fair. You don't want to be 1389 01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,679 in a place where we're paying for 160 1390 01:23:55,679 --> 01:24:00,159 hours and you can't give us 150. So 1391 01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:01,520 >> they would rather go the other 1392 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,000 direction, 1393 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:02,400 >> right? 1394 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,000 >> Give us more hours. 1395 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,040 >> Okay. So, uh, another change to point 1396 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,880 out here before we get to the one 1397 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,669 Oops. 1398 01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:17,760 So this is 1399 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,000 um right here these highlighted cells. 1400 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,000 This is what Andrew talked about. Let me 1401 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,760 zoom in. 1402 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,960 >> Um the change that we want we'd like to 1403 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,880 make for the 1404 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,040 >> the sewer. This is waste water. So this 1405 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,880 would be adding 20,000 for that pumping 1406 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,880 system from Cox Creek to talking water 1407 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,360 gardens. And that's to keep the wetlands 1408 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,480 in water throughout the year 1409 01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:43,280 to it right now. And then the fire panel 1410 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,880 project, it may not be 15,000, but they 1411 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,800 think at the wastewater plant it it 1412 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,400 might end up being that much. And again, 1413 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:51,920 it's mostly just it's not getting done 1414 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,000 this year, so we need to put it into 1415 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,669 next year. 1416 01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:00,639 There questions on that. 1417 01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:02,719 Okay. 1418 01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:05,360 Uh I'll just scroll down here to show 1419 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,320 you the example of S breakout. So this 1420 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,199 right here, what you saw when Andrew was 1421 01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:15,120 going through it was just this black 1422 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,040 line. We're just adding the breakdown 1423 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,880 breakout below in every place throughout 1424 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,470 the budget where this occurs. 1425 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,840 Um, and then 1426 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,679 cola. 1427 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:30,239 Last time we met, we talked about 1428 01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:32,239 potentially 1429 01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,719 looking at the budget uh in personnel 1430 01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:38,159 for cola because of the changes in the 1431 01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:41,199 world, changes with CPI. It's budgeted 1432 01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:42,800 at 2 and a half% right now because 1433 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,719 that's what it was in January and it's 1434 01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:46,400 also what it was in February. March was 1435 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,280 up to three, average around three. I 1436 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,560 thought we'd have data now on April, but 1437 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,000 that won't be coming out until May May 1438 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,120 12th. Um, so I don't have any more data 1439 01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:01,360 for you. I I 1440 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,840 think we're okay to leave it as is for 1441 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,080 this year. Uh, unless you feel strongly 1442 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,960 that you want to bump that up more. Uh, 1443 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,360 but I just wanted had wanted to bring it 1444 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,520 up for a discussion point because things 1445 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,080 could change in the next year. But um 1446 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,360 sorry I don't know why I was on that. 1447 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:17,520 But 1448 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,159 >> are you saying 2.5% and that's it? 1449 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:23,199 >> 2.5% for cola per cost of living 1450 01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:26,000 increase is what if we follow our normal 1451 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,239 our past procedures we'd be looking at 1452 01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,560 January to January of the prior year and 1453 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,880 that's it would be 2 and a half%. 1454 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,639 >> What is this 2% for merit increase? 1455 01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:37,280 >> Is that like 1456 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,800 >> what are you 1457 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,159 >> looking at right here? 1458 01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,320 >> Is that the packet for That's the packet 1459 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,600 for next week's council meeting. 1460 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:48,480 >> Yeah, I've read it. Okay. Um, so that is next week's council meeting. 1461 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:50,480 We'll be talking about recommended wage 1462 01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:52,000 increases for executive staff. So, this 1463 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,560 will be Matt and Andrew. And so, we are 1464 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,960 I put some numbers in the budget to 1465 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,880 cover this, but it won't go into effect 1466 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,520 unless you adopt it. So, that was the 1467 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,360 recommended was the two two and a half 1468 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,280 for COLA, which would apply to all 1469 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,080 employees um in steps and other and then 1470 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,400 an additional 2% for merit. You don't 1471 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,920 have to make a decision on that tonight 1472 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,000 because that's a a council decision for 1473 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,239 next week. But that that is what's gone 1474 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,560 into the budget here so that there is 1475 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:25,840 room to do that if you lose it too. 1476 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,719 >> So So the question is is the two and a 1477 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:31,520 half enough if we are anticipating a 1478 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,400 cola to be with the circumstances going 1479 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,639 on in the world um and the United States 1480 01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:39,120 basically 1481 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,159 >> caught up next year. 1482 01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:40,800 >> Yeah. 1483 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,800 It could be it's just would get 1484 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,960 caught up in the future. 1485 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,600 >> Okay. 1486 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,600 >> Or maybe it fluctuates. 1487 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,719 >> You're comfortable with the two and a 1488 01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:49,760 half. 1489 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,120 >> I don't have any more information for 1490 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,880 you and at this point, you know, we're 1491 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,960 just speculating. So, I'm not going to 1492 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,480 recommend doing something different 1493 01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,560 based on speculation. 1494 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,080 >> Sounds good. 1495 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,880 >> Y, 1496 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,600 but that's what it shows. It's two. 1497 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,280 >> Yeah, that that includes the two and a 1498 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,159 half right now. Um, okay. Okay. And then 1499 01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:13,040 the last thing from my perspective, 1500 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,320 unless there's anything else you want to 1501 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,679 revisit, is the community support 1502 01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:19,920 section. So, normally we go through this 1503 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,360 and we fill in in the approved column 1504 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,760 what you want to 1505 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,320 um what you want to include in your 1506 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,560 approved budget tonight. The numbers 1507 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,520 that you see in here are what was done 1508 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,760 last year. These are not the requests 1509 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,880 that we got from the from the different 1510 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,080 organizations. These are what you what 1511 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,400 you gave them last year. 1512 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,960 I so in our last meeting 1513 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,360 when we were talking about this and the 1514 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,520 cemetery 1515 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,679 got brought up and there seemed to be u 1516 01:28:57,679 --> 01:28:59,600 what I was hearing from the the 1517 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,880 committee the budget committee was was 1518 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,990 supporting potentially a higher 1519 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:08,560 allocation 1520 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,199 >> allocation thank you um towards the 1521 01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:12,719 cemetery of course that would have to go 1522 01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:14,159 back council 1523 01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:17,679 to approve being half of us our council. 1524 01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:21,040 Um I do have the number or what it it's 1525 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,199 costing the cemetery 1526 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:27,120 um yearly on on their basically taking 1527 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,840 care of the the the the yard the the 1528 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,600 grass and the mowing and the maintenance 1529 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,560 of the of the cemetery if that is 1530 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,080 something that we want to add into this 1531 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,639 budget year. We don't have to if council 1532 01:29:38,639 --> 01:29:40,960 doesn't approve it, but it might be good 1533 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,960 to have it. It's not a huge number more 1534 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,760 than what I think what what's the number 1535 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,679 up there is is it 5,000 or 1536 01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:49,920 >> let me zoom out a little 1537 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,120 >> 55 last year 1538 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,440 >> that was last year. Yeah. I think this 1539 01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:56,880 year he was asking for 5,000. The what I 1540 01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,000 got here from from them was they're 1541 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,840 basically spending, you know, $6,700 1542 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,679 um on on lawn maintenance. Um and then 1543 01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:09,920 and it it it fluctuates a little bit 1544 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,000 during the uh the growing season of 1545 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,920 course and then the off season, but 1546 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,360 that's that's the number that 1547 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,920 um we have. So I don't know if that's an 1548 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,920 interest that we want to look at and 1549 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,560 have at least in the budget and then we 1550 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,760 can strike it or not at council. Well, I 1551 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,440 thought part of the conversation last 1552 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:31,600 time was to getting it out of the 1553 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,960 >> contribution area and putting it into a 1554 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,000 different maintenance. 1555 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,199 >> Right. Right. The budget because So, do 1556 01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:41,600 we want to do that this year and just 1557 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,880 reflect the number provided maintenance? 1558 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,639 >> And that's what I would prefer us to do 1559 01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:48,159 some type of resolution 1560 01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:49,520 >> under parks and 1561 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,679 >> under parks. Well, it doesn't belong to 1562 01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:53,920 the city. I think it's a landmark in the 1563 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,719 city and I think that it's something 1564 01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:59,120 that we should support in the budget, 1565 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,840 but I don't think and that's why I 1566 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,880 actually asked Gina to print this the 1567 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,480 request um guidance for donations. I'm 1568 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:10,960 not quite honestly reading this I don't 1569 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,320 see where the cemetery this guidance 1570 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,400 um so that's why I think we should look 1571 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,960 at it from a different angle. 1572 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:19,920 um 1573 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,120 >> because I do think it should be 1574 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,199 supported. It is part it's a landmark of 1575 01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:23,920 the city, 1576 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:24,320 >> right? 1577 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,360 >> But I don't like the donation piece. 1578 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,120 >> Okay, if that makes sense. 1579 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,040 >> I I think with that we need to make sure 1580 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,960 we send them a letter 1581 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,360 >> that this is something that we we will be 1582 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,360 discussing every year. We're not taking 1583 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,360 over the cemeteries. We don't want to 1584 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,440 own the cemetery because I think in the 1585 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:44,639 future they're going to have some tree 1586 01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:45,760 issues they're going to have to deal 1587 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,840 with. And I don't want them to come and 1588 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,360 to a meeting and say, "Well, you guys 1589 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,800 can have the cemetery now." 1590 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,159 >> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. 1591 01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:58,080 >> I think it just just a letter saying, 1592 01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,600 you know, we want to support your 1593 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,520 effort. We love the fact that you're 1594 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,360 keeping it nice looking and 1595 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:04,320 >> here's 1596 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,960 >> this is what we we decided to do. But 1597 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,560 however, it's clear that it's it's out 1598 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,960 of the goodness of our hearts, out of 1599 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,560 people's property taxes. And 1600 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:21,120 >> yeah, I I agree. I um I do know if we do 1601 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,840 that, 1602 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,560 something else comes to my mind is the 1603 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,679 Grinch would be it. I would see that 1604 01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:32,400 falling into a similar situation. So 1605 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:32,800 that's 1606 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,000 >> see I think the graange if we want to 1607 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,080 give a donation I think the graange does 1608 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:38,480 meet the 1609 01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:39,520 >> guidance 1610 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,280 >> because it's something that the the 1611 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,760 >> the community can use right there's a 1612 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,199 benefit to the community to have the 1613 01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:48,800 graange there now whether people use it 1614 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,040 or not I don't know but 1615 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:52,000 >> it's available 1616 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,560 >> so and and and I don't think the range 1617 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,239 did ask for they still have funds 1618 01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,080 but I know in the past we've done that 1619 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,679 so 1620 01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:02,320 Okay. 1621 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,400 >> What is the Grange? 1622 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,199 >> The Grange. 1623 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:06,159 >> Yeah. 1624 01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:07,280 >> Morning Star Grange. 1625 01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:07,920 >> Yeah. 1626 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,719 >> What do they do? 1627 01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:10,560 >> The Morning Star on Morning Star. 1628 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,600 >> Where is that? Okay. 1629 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,960 >> On morning star. 1630 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,280 >> Right after the S turns. You know the S 1631 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,639 turns are 1632 01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:20,390 >> just pass. 1633 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,520 » Good answer. Okay. 1634 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,030 Very 1635 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,960 morning. 1636 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,149 Star. 1637 01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:34,560 Okay, 1638 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,159 >> he's a Marine. You need to give him map 1639 01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:39,120 coordinates. 1640 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,320 >> Here we go. Here comes the map. 1641 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,639 >> It goes west. 1642 01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:48,000 >> Let's frag you, you know. 1643 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,560 >> So, this is Old Salem. 1644 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,320 >> He needs the URL right here. 1645 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,400 >> That's Millersburg. 1646 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,120 >> This is Morning Star Road. And it's 1647 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,800 right up here at the very last parcel. 1648 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,159 Right. That purple line's the end of the 1649 01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:00,560 city. 1650 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,480 >> It's not where that church is. 1651 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:04,800 >> It's not a church. It's the grain. 1652 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,600 >> It looks like a church, but it's not 1653 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,080 right there. 1654 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,239 >> The donation. 1655 01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:15,590 >> Yeah. It's historic building and they 1656 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:16,239 » Thank you. 1657 01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:23,510 >> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. 1658 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,679 Sorry, but I just thought 1659 01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:28,960 it sounds like 1660 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,199 >> like maybe 1661 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:31,760 move 1662 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,120 >> that community donations and into a line 1663 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,440 items for support somewhere. 1664 01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:38,000 >> How about 1665 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,880 >> but 1666 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,280 >> would I'm just trying to think of what 1667 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,320 the category might be that you might fit 1668 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,159 this and maybe fits a few other things 1669 01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:50,000 like organizational partnerships. 1670 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:50,719 Um, 1671 01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:54,159 >> are you referring to our criteria? 1672 01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:57,600 >> No, I'm referring to 1673 01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,199 the line item. 1674 01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:01,199 >> I would I would I would keep it in the 1675 01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:02,639 general fund rather than putting it in 1676 01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:05,360 parks. Um, it's 1677 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,960 >> it's really not part of our parks 1678 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,960 operation. It is funding that we're 1679 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,719 providing to a 1680 01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:12,080 >> organization we're partnering with, 1681 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:13,920 right? Um because they're going to do 1682 01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,840 something that we think is in the best 1683 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,760 interest of the city. 1684 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,600 I have a question and it's just 1685 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:20,560 something that popped in my mind 1686 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,480 listening to YouTube. 1687 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:25,600 >> How do we get something listed as a 1688 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,280 historical 1689 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,159 location? 1690 01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:30,000 >> That's a different topic for a different 1691 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:30,480 day. 1692 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:34,320 >> But cemetery already is 1693 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,000 >> that cemetery already is. 1694 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,280 >> Oh, I thought you said the gra is the 1695 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,400 only one. 1696 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,880 >> Gra and the cemetery 1697 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:41,679 >> for the city 1698 01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:42,719 >> and the cemetery. 1699 01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:44,800 >> The cemetery is state. 1700 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,480 >> Oh, okay. 1701 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,159 Well, looking at ways of possibly 1702 01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:49,120 getting funding. 1703 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,679 >> Oh, yeah. Outside of us. That's why 1704 01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:53,679 >> he's looking into into grants. I know 1705 01:35:53,679 --> 01:35:56,080 that the cemeteries. I don't know about 1706 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,000 >> Okay. So, that's why it's been 1707 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,560 >> the city's only got one and the cemetery 1708 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,440 falls out the state. Okay. 1709 01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:04,719 >> Never mind. 1710 01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:07,520 >> We We only have one historic building. I 1711 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:08,560 think the properties are both 1712 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,719 considered. 1713 01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:12,719 >> So, we already have a line item need 1714 01:36:12,719 --> 01:36:14,639 support. you're proposing community 1715 01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:17,360 partners and then move that to that. 1716 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:18,560 >> If you want to pull it out of 1717 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,840 communities support, give it a different 1718 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,760 name. Um, 1719 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,920 >> yeah, I I was saying organizational 1720 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,840 partnerships. I I don't know. Whatever 1721 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:30,320 you feel the name describes it. 1722 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,760 Is there anything else you would put in 1723 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,679 this category like the cemetery that 1724 01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:37,040 maybe doesn't fit under community 1725 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,920 support that you still want to do? Like 1726 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:45,199 I for example, I just he's just um arter 1727 01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:46,560 I don't know if you want to I don't know 1728 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:47,840 where you're going to land on that one 1729 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,760 but that's a partnership with Albany 1730 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:53,760 that we have found valuable. You could say you know that's a 1731 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,520 community partnership not a community 1732 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,800 support like we're not considering this 1733 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,880 a donation. We're considering this a 1734 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,679 partnership kind of like the fireworks. 1735 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,560 >> So it's just an idea. Um 1736 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,880 >> and then you you put that in general you 1737 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,119 think? 1738 01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:08,560 >> I would keep that in general. Yeah, I 1739 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,679 think the general fund would be more 1740 01:37:09,679 --> 01:37:11,679 appropriate. Would it 1741 01:37:11,679 --> 01:37:13,040 >> and remember parks is still part of 1742 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,159 general funds. So, 1743 01:37:14,159 --> 01:37:14,880 >> right. 1744 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,360 >> Yeah. 1745 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,760 >> Would it muddy the waters? Do you think 1746 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,320 like going back to cemetery was sort of 1747 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,800 what you said his it's put in the title 1748 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,679 some we could retitle it some whatever 1749 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:32,880 but historic partnership or some with uh 1750 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,560 or I'll leave it to our 1751 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:40,320 >> just staff and come up with it CPAs to 1752 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,400 >> well we do need to approve the budget 1753 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,159 tonight so we need to fill something in 1754 01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:46,000 tonight we can't just defer that for 1755 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,280 future we can change 1756 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:48,400 >> I don't think there'll be any problem 1757 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:49,840 solving 1758 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,679 organiz organizational support. 1759 01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:56,070 >> There we go. 1760 01:37:56,080 --> 01:38:00,000 » Community organization support 1761 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,639 >> and he audited the book. So I I'll take 1762 01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:03,360 advice. 1763 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:04,239 >> I used to 1764 01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:05,440 >> Yeah, 1765 01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:10,080 >> I said it audited. 1766 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,000 And so 1767 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,760 we're proposing to put 6700 there from 1768 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,199 the cemetery, right? 1769 01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,119 city manager has proposed. Are there any 1770 01:38:21,119 --> 01:38:24,480 other thoughts? I.e. the art and air 1771 01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:27,520 festival moving that line item into that 1772 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,960 category 1773 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,040 >> would be that or a separate it'd be the 1774 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:31,840 same category. 1775 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:32,560 >> Same category. 1776 01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,600 >> Oh, I sort of like that idea of maybe 1777 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:36,239 doing that. 1778 01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:38,159 >> And what about uh maybe the Boys and 1779 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:40,800 Girls Club? 1780 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,639 >> Well, the Boys and Girls Club falls 1781 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:43,360 under that. 1782 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,840 >> They do. I agree. And I would I would 1783 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,880 think donation or sponsorship guidance. 1784 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:49,199 >> Okay. 1785 01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:50,239 >> You know, they're a nonprofit 1786 01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:52,080 organization. They fall under that. I 1787 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,440 don't have a 1788 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:54,960 >> where they're at. Fair enough. 1789 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:55,360 >> Yeah. 1790 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,000 The only reason that I would agree 1791 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,679 with 1792 01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:04,000 the um air festival is because is that 1793 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,199 not mostly funded by the city of Albany 1794 01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:09,760 >> or at least it's ran by the city. 1795 01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,080 >> So I think that makes it a joint project 1796 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,920 instead of a donation. And that's where 1797 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,880 I think 1798 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,639 >> that until this year I don't think her 1799 01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:18,560 write up at least to me because I didn't 1800 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,159 know that made it clear. 1801 01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:21,119 >> Yeah. 1802 01:39:21,119 --> 01:39:24,560 >> So, I didn't catch everything. Did you 1803 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,080 say you want to move art and air to this 1804 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:26,800 or were there 1805 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,400 >> I think it makes more sense. Instead of 1806 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,320 giving a donation basically to the city 1807 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:31,840 of Albanese, 1808 01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,280 >> it's partnering with Albany, 1809 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:33,760 >> right? 1810 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,920 >> Makes sense. 1811 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,360 >> I think it's closed. 1812 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,600 >> Uh, sorry. Is this title what you meant? 1813 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,199 Community organization support or 1814 01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:42,719 partnership? 1815 01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:43,679 We're saying partner 1816 01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:54,229 >> like partnership but I don't know 1817 01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:55,840 46 there. Dick, are you okay with that 1818 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,800 title? 1819 01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,760 >> Yeah. 1820 01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:05,830 >> Were there any others? 1821 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,239 » I think uh I thought you going to put 1822 01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:11,040 6,700 or milis under the cemetery. And 1823 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:16,070 then what are we putting on our 1824 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:16,880 air festival? 1825 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,910 >> They requested 1826 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,199 » do that. 1827 01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:24,639 >> I think that they requested the same 1828 01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:25,679 amount this year. 1829 01:40:25,679 --> 01:40:28,870 >> Yeah, 1830 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,679 » I don't remember what they requested. 1831 01:40:31,679 --> 01:40:33,600 Trying to find that request. I think it 1832 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,199 is. I got it here somewhere. And oh, 1833 01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:39,600 here they are. 1834 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:45,350 Okay. 1835 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,920 » All right. 1836 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:48,960 >> I didn't know you were doing 1837 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,840 >> Okay. I should request 3,000 1838 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:57,189 10. Yeah. Okay. Good. 1839 01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:01,119 So, 3,000 for the Art and Air Festival. 1840 01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:04,000 Now, the L County Fair and Expo asked 1841 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,080 for five. 1842 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:11,430 There's only 1,000 up there. 1843 01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:14,880 That was basically for the um 1844 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,360 >> 4 basically, right? 1845 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,719 >> Is that not the big 1846 01:41:20,719 --> 01:41:21,840 >> uh 1847 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,080 >> with 4 spending dropping? That's kind of 1848 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:25,760 what they've been using it for in the 1849 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,750 past. 1850 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,159 Support local kids. Didn't say anything 1851 01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:34,480 about 4. Oh, yeah, it does. 4 support. 1852 01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:36,000 4. 1853 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:48,790 >> Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. 1854 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:53,030 He asked for what? 205,000. 1855 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,840 » Yeah. 1856 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:54,880 >> 2500. 1857 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,159 >> You guys are aware that the Honor 1858 01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:59,840 Flights canled this year, right? 1859 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,840 >> Did it get fully canceled? I thought 1860 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:02,560 partially cancelled. 1861 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:03,840 >> They canceled it. 1862 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:04,719 >> Why is that? 1863 01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:07,119 >> Because they didn't have enough funds. 1864 01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:10,080 They cancelled the the recent one, but 1865 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,639 they're hoping to still go in October, 1866 01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:12,800 right? 1867 01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:13,840 >> They're planning on doing one in 1868 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,199 October. Yeah, 1869 01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:16,560 >> that's what I 1870 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,239 >> That's what they were asking. 1871 01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:23,030 >> Yeah, one of them, too. 1872 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,880 » Are we only What are we Are we looking 1873 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:25,760 at? 1874 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,600 >> 2500. That's what I said. 1875 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,239 >> Oh, I got according to his request was 1876 01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:34,800 five. He didn't show up. ants late, 1877 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,639 which is in my personal opinion, if 1878 01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:38,400 they're late, they don't they shouldn't 1879 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,560 get anything. But we've got to 1880 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,719 >> I didn't know Ed turned it in late. 1881 01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:50,320 >> They're all doing the ninth. 1882 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,159 >> We gave what? Thousand last year. 1883 01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:54,719 >> Yeah. This year, 1884 01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:55,520 >> I'm okay with that. 1885 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,520 >> All right. I'll give my two cents on the 1886 01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,320 rest of them. 1887 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,159 So, and this is just my feeling. 1888 01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:06,239 While I fully support every single one 1889 01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:09,360 of those categories up there and every 1890 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,719 single one of those asks, I still have a 1891 01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:14,719 hard time 1892 01:43:14,719 --> 01:43:19,040 saying this is a city requirement or a 1893 01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,920 city responsibility to fund with 1894 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,199 taxpayer dollars because I look for it. 1895 01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:28,320 If I look at it from the other side of 1896 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,880 the these are all things taxpayers can 1897 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,040 donate to 1898 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,159 and get a tax deduction for, but yet 1899 01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:38,400 we're going to tell them we don't care 1900 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,000 what you decided. We're going to donate 1901 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,760 your money. 1902 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:46,159 Um I just have a hard time with that. I really do. I just don't think it's a 1903 01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:48,880 city's job or any government job to 1904 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,440 support nonprofits. 1905 01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:54,080 should be supported in other 1906 01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,000 ways and they are supported in other 1907 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,320 ways. Like I said, that's just my 1908 01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,719 feeling on it. You guys take it for what 1909 01:44:00,719 --> 01:44:03,440 you will. That's And like I said, I 1910 01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:05,119 fully support every single one of those 1911 01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:06,880 things up there. I I really do. I'm not 1912 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,639 trying to say anyone don't deserve 1913 01:44:08,639 --> 01:44:12,239 funding. I just don't feel it's taxpayer 1914 01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:14,560 dollars to be going to it when people 1915 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,719 had that option. And if they did, they 1916 01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,239 got a tax deduction for it. If they 1917 01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:19,920 didn't, they fully paid full price for 1918 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,000 it. They're getting a tax deduction for 1919 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,520 the property taxes, too. 1920 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,000 But I I mean, and I don't I hate to 1921 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,560 disagree with Mike on as long as they're 1922 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,880 providing services that help the 1923 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:33,600 community, 1924 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:34,159 >> right? 1925 01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:35,920 >> I think it's important to support the 1926 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,000 nonprofits. If if it was a nonprofit 1927 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,840 that just wasn't doing anything for the 1928 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,920 community, then yeah, I agree with that. 1929 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,320 But 1930 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,639 >> well, I understand Mike's argument. I 1931 01:44:46,639 --> 01:44:51,280 also say that these are citizens that 1932 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,199 >> we don't provide those services directly 1933 01:44:53,199 --> 01:44:58,159 to them and this isn't a way that we can 1934 01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:01,040 support those organizations 1935 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:02,560 >> for our citizens. 1936 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,320 >> Well, and for example, Boys and Girls 1937 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,080 Club after school program. 1938 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:06,639 >> Yep. 1939 01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:07,920 >> And our kids go there 1940 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:08,800 >> camp out here. 1941 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,480 >> They got the they do the summer camp out 1942 01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:13,119 here. We got ABC helps. We have children 1943 01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:16,159 are abused that out here that are being 1944 01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:17,840 seen by ABC House. 1945 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:18,480 >> I concur. 1946 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:20,639 >> And I, 1947 01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:23,600 you know, and I don't know that 1948 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,360 Honor Flight, same thing. We've got 1949 01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,199 citizens that are that have gone on 1950 01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:29,760 Honor Flight that and I think that's a 1951 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,520 wonderful support. Take some of those 1952 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,600 people, let them go see Washington DC. 1953 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,719 They'll probably never see it in their 1954 01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:37,440 life. 1955 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:38,480 >> And like I said, that's just my 1956 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,080 statement. I'm not going to argue it 1957 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,080 hold up the this section like we 1958 01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,639 normally hold it up for hours 1959 01:45:44,639 --> 01:45:47,360 45 just like you said. So 1960 01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:48,480 >> where you guys just 1961 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,560 >> that's your opinion. 1962 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,400 >> You're supporting you're supporting how 1963 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,760 many people in the community that 1964 01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,280 >> Yeah. I mean like I said I'm not going 1965 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,199 to fight it. I'm just putting out my 1966 01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:00,800 opinion on that's fair. 1967 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,360 >> That's fair. 1968 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,440 That's just my opinion. So on that note, 1969 01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:09,119 are we comfortable with the amounts that 1970 01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:13,040 are listed 1971 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,199 or do we want to scrap this all 1972 01:46:15,199 --> 01:46:16,320 together? 1973 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,320 >> Well, those numbers are from last year, 1974 01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:18,960 right? 1975 01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:19,920 >> Yeah. 1976 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,760 >> They're not reflecting what they asked 1977 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:22,159 for. 1978 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:23,119 >> Correct. 1979 01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:25,040 >> So it if you don't want to scrap it all 1980 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,639 and you want to put numbers in here, it 1981 01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:27,840 would be helpful if we could just go 1982 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:28,480 down the list. 1983 01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:29,520 >> Yeah, exactly. 1984 01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,000 >> Yeah. Well, you said Land County Fair 1985 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:33,440 and Expo. I was just throwing out 1986 01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:35,199 another 500. I mean, 1987 01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:38,080 >> I it if 5,000 is what I mean, I I 1988 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,840 support the the fair. I think it's 1989 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,760 great. It's right in our backyard. And 1990 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,400 you know, I've talked about before. I 1991 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,280 >> Well, let's I I want to hear from other 1992 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:48,800 budget members. 1993 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,880 >> Exactly. Let's get a consensus if we 1994 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,440 even want to contribute at all to this. 1995 01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:56,000 >> If if Honor Flight is canled their 1996 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,679 flights, 1997 01:46:57,679 --> 01:46:59,520 shouldn't we consider bumping it up a 1998 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,199 little bit? 1999 01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,679 >> Yeah. I mean that that would I mean that 2000 01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:04,719 would 2001 01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:07,199 >> hopefully help them a little bit more 2002 01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:09,119 like take it from three to five. 2003 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:10,080 >> So it sounds like 2004 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,440 >> according to this so we'll go one line 2005 01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:17,199 at a time and we'll start at the top. 2006 01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:19,840 >> Where are we at? 2007 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:23,280 >> So actually stand by me. No that's all. 2008 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:24,880 >> So that was last year. 2009 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,320 >> She she talked about it. 2010 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:27,840 >> Yeah. So what they're asking for this 2011 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,520 year is the Sheba program. 2012 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:30,480 >> That's right. Shea 2013 01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:35,040 >> and I can change that now. Um 2014 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,199 >> I just again we plug in what was last 2015 01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:38,960 year. That's just our normal 2016 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,400 >> and I think if I could share if if for 2017 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,639 next year's budget I don't know I think 2018 01:47:44,639 --> 01:47:47,040 it'd be helpful just to we can see the 2019 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,119 numbers that came in year before. 2020 01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:49,520 >> Yeah. 2021 01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,280 >> Let's put in the numbers that are 2022 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,760 they're asking for in the line. It just 2023 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,119 be helpful. 2024 01:47:55,119 --> 01:47:57,840 I think they've been a hesitant on 2025 01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,520 staff's side to just plug in what they 2026 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,520 asked for and assume you know that means 2027 01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,600 >> I can understand it. But we change 2028 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,760 numbers. 2029 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,520 >> Everybody requests $20,000. 2030 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,360 >> I think just for purposes of what we're 2031 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,199 doing here. 2032 01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:12,880 >> We have a multi-million dollar budget 2033 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,040 where we're $30,000. 2034 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,350 >> $7,000. 2035 01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,639 » How much was Shiva? 2036 01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:22,719 >> 800 800 bucks. 2037 01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:23,280 >> I think 2038 01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,480 >> I'm okay with that. Okay. Anyone else? 2039 01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:27,280 >> I support it. 2040 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,360 >> Any objections? 2041 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:30,960 All right. 2042 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:32,960 ABC House. $5,000. 2043 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,800 >> Yes. 2044 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,239 Good. 2045 01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:38,400 >> Good. 2046 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:43,910 Any objections? About 50. 2047 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,239 Uh, keep those arrows there. 2048 01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:49,280 >> Albony Boys and Girls Club, $5,000. 2049 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,080 Yes. Yep. 2050 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,000 Any objections? 2051 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,679 All right. 2052 01:48:55,679 --> 01:48:59,119 L County Fair and Expo. 2053 01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:01,119 Can I ask a question on this one? 2054 01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:03,760 >> Um, would you consider this similar to 2055 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,600 Art and Air where it's more of a 2056 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,119 partnership? 2057 01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:08,400 >> It's a government. Yeah. 2058 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,400 >> Is that partnership to support Lyn 2059 01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,800 County and the fair in the area instead 2060 01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,239 of 2061 01:49:14,239 --> 01:49:15,360 >> You want to move that down, 2062 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,119 >> please? Makes sense. 2063 01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:19,520 >> Yeah. 2064 01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,199 >> Because they put up our our names, too, 2065 01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:22,639 don't they? if we donate. 2066 01:49:22,639 --> 01:49:24,800 >> I don't know if they still do on the 2067 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,000 white fence last year. 2068 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,199 >> Yeah, it was on the white fence last 2069 01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:31,510 year. 2070 01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,440 » That generally cost us $1,000. 2071 01:49:33,440 --> 01:49:35,360 >> Yeah, 2072 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,119 >> I still 2073 01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:40,159 didn't count 2074 01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:42,159 whether they asked our donation or not. 2075 01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:44,800 >> I don't find an end, but I just I was 2076 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,520 just trying to give you a little context 2077 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,719 on the request. Um, when Ed filled that 2078 01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:52,560 out, he said, "Well, 5,000 is the max 2079 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:53,520 that you guys give out. I'm just going 2080 01:49:53,520 --> 01:50:00,149 to put down 5,000." 2081 01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:02,560 » It was more Why wouldn't we ask for Max? 2082 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:02,800 Like, 2083 01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:06,239 >> so I think that we would tell Ed we will 2084 01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:10,239 give up to 5,000 the amount that he'll 2085 01:50:10,239 --> 01:50:14,470 ask. 2086 01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:14,960 » Love it. 2087 01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,719 >> Just saying. That's just going to get 2088 01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:18,639 the well are you going to release my 2089 01:50:18,639 --> 01:50:22,390 funds? 2090 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:27,189 » This is where this is for them. 2091 01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:31,520 » You forget who you're negotiating with. 2092 01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,119 >> This is public record. 2093 01:50:33,119 --> 01:50:36,639 >> Well, based on that conversation, 2094 01:50:36,639 --> 01:50:39,440 >> I mean, Ed just thrown a number out 2095 01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,520 because he wanted to throw a number out. 2096 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,920 >> I'm with Scott on 2500 bucks. I would 2097 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:47,990 support the 2500 2098 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,560 » and we can communicate next year. He can 2099 01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,760 make his request and explain the the 2100 01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,679 reasoning behind his number. 2101 01:50:55,679 --> 01:50:58,320 >> I'd like to see us hold to any deadlines 2102 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,880 that we post on the top of these 2103 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,800 applications and reject applications 2104 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,920 that are blatantly late. 10% a day. 2105 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,320 >> One ch we can do that if that's your 2106 01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,679 direction. One challenge is that some of 2107 01:51:09,679 --> 01:51:11,280 these organizations people change every 2108 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:15,119 year. So we we as staff set that earlier 2109 01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:17,040 deadline so we have time then to follow 2110 01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,360 up with before we need to to follow up 2111 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,880 with them and make sure you have it 2112 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:22,719 before the budget meeting 2113 01:51:22,719 --> 01:51:25,040 >> it is exactly 2114 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:26,560 >> I sort of wanted to talk about that a 2115 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:27,679 little bit I was going to do at the end 2116 01:51:27,679 --> 01:51:29,119 but it's a good time because we're 2117 01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:31,600 talking is the procedure 2118 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,159 >> on the front side I get like the 2119 01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:36,880 deadline people are changing 2120 01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,440 I know Sheena you're out there calling 2121 01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:41,920 people trying like hey let's get 2122 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,360 You know, a deadline would be I mean at 2123 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,520 some point we do need a deadline. I mean 2124 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,679 whatever that is for staff purposes for 2125 01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:50,159 us, 2126 01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:51,360 >> right? 2127 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:56,880 >> But what I've heard over the years is is 2128 01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,199 um not the followup. We don't get any 2129 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:02,320 followup and it seems to bug I know it 2130 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:06,080 bugs council at times more but because 2131 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:07,679 you guys on the budget committee are 2132 01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:10,239 here for this you know capture time but 2133 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:11,679 we don't really get a you don't really 2134 01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:13,280 necessarily hear the followup and you 2135 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:14,639 unless you come to the council meeting 2136 01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:16,000 you probably won't because that's 2137 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,199 usually comes after the fact 2138 01:52:17,199 --> 01:52:18,880 >> but you're all welcome to come which you 2139 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:21,920 totally are well we got we got we got a 2140 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,920 card and a letter 2141 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,719 we've got some followup and that's what 2142 01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:30,159 I wanted to get at is is moving forward. 2143 01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:33,360 maybe we really put in there is like we 2144 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,119 want to we want to hear we just don't 2145 01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:38,159 want to write a blank check and just go 2146 01:52:38,159 --> 01:52:44,159 oh what happened there you know um and actually hear back from the high 2147 01:52:44,159 --> 01:52:45,840 schoolers which we did and that was 2148 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,440 awesome and I think you talked about 2149 01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:50,400 that and and have that as an example 2150 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:54,320 like is is some followup on the event 2151 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,119 you know let's use the the u the uh 2152 01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:00,320 middle school um uh Clover 2153 01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,480 or not. Timberidge, thank you. 2154 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:04,719 Timberidge, like maybe they could send 2155 01:53:04,719 --> 01:53:06,800 us a letter, which they have actually. 2156 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,560 They're another one that followed up, 2157 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,040 but continue that. So, we can just read 2158 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,080 that out uh publicly at the at the 2159 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,679 council meetings. So, I don't know what 2160 01:53:15,679 --> 01:53:18,000 that looks like, but that's what I hear 2161 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,920 often in these meetings like, hey, 2162 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,880 whatever happened am I am I accurate on 2163 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,320 it? you're accurate, but I don't know 2164 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,159 that you'll get compliance because of 2165 01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:29,760 the turnover that particular example has 2166 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,280 every single year. 2167 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,320 >> Put it on the bottom of the form if you 2168 01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:34,800 know 2169 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,360 >> at least it's 2170 01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:43,040 maybe if we could direct staff on the on the form is that then when they 2171 01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,119 sign there's a box there that says 2172 01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:46,880 followup. You will you're committing to 2173 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,280 a followup and they obviously sign on it 2174 01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,199 or check it. Is that something maybe 2175 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:54,000 Sheni could add? Um, what do you guys 2176 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,719 think? I mean, I don't know. That's just 2177 01:53:56,719 --> 01:53:58,239 >> question. We can certainly add anything 2178 01:53:58,239 --> 01:53:59,199 to a form. 2179 01:53:59,199 --> 01:53:59,679 >> Yeah. 2180 01:53:59,679 --> 01:54:01,199 >> Do you want 2181 01:54:01,199 --> 01:54:03,280 >> when we say something is required, then 2182 01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,960 usually staff are going to follow up and 2183 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:06,560 make sure it happens. So, do you want 2184 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,239 staff to follow up with them and make 2185 01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:10,239 sure they come back and report it out? 2186 01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:12,880 Or do you want that to, you know, if if 2187 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:14,719 you just leave it as a check box on the 2188 01:54:14,719 --> 01:54:15,920 form? 2189 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,320 >> Yeah, I'll check that. 2190 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:18,960 >> I don't know. 2191 01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,400 >> Well, you're right. There some tracking. 2192 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,320 them for it. They don't show 2193 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,320 >> at least on the application if there was 2194 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:29,920 a narrative about how this is going to 2195 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:31,760 >> help 2196 01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,000 that reality check on that one, right? 2197 01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,560 Is that what you get? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 2198 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,400 I don't know. I It just seems like that 2199 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,239 we talk about that and that really 2200 01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:42,719 frustrates us to the point like, well, 2201 01:54:42,719 --> 01:54:44,000 heck with it. We're not going to give 2202 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,920 them the money. They're just like, we 2203 01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,520 don't know whatever happens to it. I 2204 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,400 mean, you know, Yeah. Okay. If you go to 2205 01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,199 the fair fair, you see you see the name 2206 01:54:53,199 --> 01:54:55,280 out there and we support is how 2207 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,000 important is that to our budget to 2208 01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,920 >> the suggestion 2209 01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:02,480 um when we send out the checks because 2210 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,080 we normally will print and send the 2211 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,719 checks after the first of the year after 2212 01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:09,840 the budget is in place. Uh we could have 2213 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:14,800 a form letter that we send with that says you know here's you know what 2214 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,119 the city is whatever you know we'll 2215 01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:19,440 draft it and says 2216 01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,119 >> follow 2217 01:55:21,119 --> 01:55:24,159 reporting back to council on 2218 01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:25,679 the use of this money is greatly 2219 01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:27,920 appreciated may affect your um 2220 01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:30,000 eligibility for a future donation. 2221 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:31,920 >> Yeah, I love it. That's fair. 2222 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:37,119 >> Absolutely. Even just at least respond. 2223 01:55:37,119 --> 01:55:38,400 >> What do you guys think? something like 2224 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,599 that at least to help a little bit with 2225 01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:39,840 it. 2226 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,199 >> Mike and the dad something like 2227 01:55:41,199 --> 01:55:41,599 >> I think 2228 01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:45,990 >> I don't necessarily 2229 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,159 like that. 2230 01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:50,239 I would prefer something more like what 2231 01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:54,000 Dick said where the request 2232 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,840 we actually make if you want funding 2233 01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:02,080 your request should specifically state 2234 01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,960 how our funds are going to help the 2235 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,800 residents of Dillersburg. 2236 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:08,639 >> Right? So whether it's the 4, how many 2237 01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:10,239 kids in Millersburg are we supporting 2238 01:56:10,239 --> 01:56:13,599 through the 4 program? If it's the, you 2239 01:56:13,599 --> 01:56:15,360 know, whatever it may be, how is that 2240 01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,040 helping Millersburg? And the reason I 2241 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:18,719 say I don't necessarily like the 2242 01:56:18,719 --> 01:56:21,280 follow-up piece is because I'll use the 2243 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,760 parent teacher one. Who's going to be 2244 01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,639 there next year asking funds? The same ladies that are there this 2245 01:56:26,639 --> 01:56:27,119 year, 2246 01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:28,400 >> right? 2247 01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,880 >> I don't have to go back. I got my money. 2248 01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,880 That's up to the next group. But on the 2249 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,880 application, we already have them answer 2250 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,400 a question that says, "What is the 2251 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,320 benefit to the Millersburg community of 2252 01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:39,679 the project of activity?" 2253 01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:41,840 >> Yeah. I just would like to see more in 2254 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,040 that. What What What are we supporting? 2255 01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:50,229 >> Millersburg community members. 2256 01:56:50,239 --> 01:56:52,080 » You can put that in there, but it's But 2257 01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,719 if if you're not expanding on it and 2258 01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:55,679 giving me 2259 01:56:55,679 --> 01:56:56,880 >> So, so suggestion. 2260 01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,760 >> So, then that's a criteria for you to 2261 01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,400 >> reject the application. 2262 01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,400 This was a council policy that you guys 2263 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,599 put in place. 2264 01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:06,880 >> Do you want us to bring this back at a 2265 01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,119 future council meeting with some some 2266 01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:10,400 language to try to address some of these 2267 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:11,599 things? Then you guys can work through 2268 01:57:11,599 --> 01:57:13,920 this and get to some, you know, decide 2269 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,840 to make adjustments to it. I don't want 2270 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,000 from a staff perspective, 2271 01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,520 >> uh, because it's a council policy that 2272 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,679 you adopted, any changes, we're going to 2273 01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:22,639 bring back to you. Yeah. 2274 01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:26,320 >> For approval. So we can we can continue 2275 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,880 this conversation and try to implement 2276 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:30,719 what you guys are wanting here, but we 2277 01:57:30,719 --> 01:57:32,560 can't make that change tonight. Anyways, 2278 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,480 >> I was just trying to get feedback from 2279 01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,400 which I think we did. I mean or I feel 2280 01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,560 like I heard it and and I think we can 2281 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:39,440 tackle that as 2282 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,199 >> and I think for example I don't see 2283 01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:42,639 meals on wheels. We didn't get a request 2284 01:57:42,639 --> 01:57:43,280 from 2285 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,040 >> they're not necessarily 2286 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,199 >> but that in the past has been what I was 2287 01:57:47,199 --> 01:57:48,880 getting at. She actually gave us how 2288 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:50,239 many people are they servicing in 2289 01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:51,679 Millersburg and that's what I'm looking 2290 01:57:51,679 --> 01:57:53,280 for. What impact? 2291 01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:54,960 >> And the reason they did not vote again 2292 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,639 is because there aren't nobody. We don't 2293 01:57:56,639 --> 01:57:58,239 have anybody right now. If we do in the 2294 01:57:58,239 --> 01:58:02,400 future, they'll probably come back. 2295 01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,639 >> So, M County Fair and Expo, we're going 2296 01:58:04,639 --> 01:58:10,070 to put 2500 in there. 2297 01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,239 » Oh, it's down below. 2298 01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:13,840 >> Oh, okay. 2299 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,199 >> Then, uh 2300 01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:20,320 goes away. All night party 2301 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:21,440 celebration. 2302 01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:22,560 >> Honor flight was next. 2303 01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:24,480 >> Honor flight. Oh, honor flight there. 2304 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:25,520 Yeah. 2305 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:26,960 >> All night. They have plans for 2306 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:27,679 September. 2307 01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:30,480 >> No, you they cancelled because of lack 2308 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:31,760 of funding. 2309 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,560 >> That was this that was last 2310 01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,159 >> spring trip. They got one planned in the 2311 01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:36,719 fall. 2312 01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:40,000 >> Providing funding for the the 2313 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,560 >> next year after June after July one, 2314 01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,320 >> right? like is it? But it sounds like 2315 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:48,480 it's in in November or 2316 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:49,599 >> it's in September. 2317 01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:50,080 >> September 2318 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,119 >> according to their 2319 01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:52,719 >> probably on the paperwork. It's 2320 01:58:52,719 --> 01:58:53,760 >> it's probably in the paperwork. 2321 01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,440 >> The next one's in September. 2322 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:56,000 >> All right. 2323 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,679 >> And I thought they said they were they 2324 01:58:57,679 --> 01:58:59,040 were planning on doing the September 2325 01:58:59,040 --> 01:58:59,920 one. 2326 01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:01,920 >> Okay. Yeah. 2327 01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:03,679 >> Yeah. I support it. I think it's great. 2328 01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:04,400 Thanks. 2329 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,520 >> It'd be awesome if we could capture an 2330 01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:11,840 actual resident, you know, but you know, 2331 01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,599 >> you can nominate one if you know one. 2332 01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:17,599 >> I know. I kind of don't if I make it. 2333 01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:20,719 >> No. If if they were cancelled this this 2334 01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:22,560 reason because there weren't enough 2335 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:24,800 people or there weren't enough funds. I 2336 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:26,560 mean, if there weren't enough funds, 2337 01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:27,440 >> it was fun. 2338 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:28,480 >> Was it funds? 2339 01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:29,360 >> It was 2340 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:30,639 >> I thought they said they didn't have 2341 01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:32,400 enough people either. 2342 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,159 >> Well, honestly, I don't buy the funds. I 2343 01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:37,440 think it's a lack of 2344 01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,560 leadership in that organization and that 2345 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,639 >> go out. I mean, there's plenty of places 2346 01:59:42,639 --> 01:59:44,719 that are going to donate to that program 2347 01:59:44,719 --> 01:59:47,119 if they just approach them. 2348 01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:48,719 >> Personally, that's my feeling on it. 2349 01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,400 >> Didn't we give them money last year? 2350 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,239 >> Yeah, I think it's 3,000. 2351 01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:52,960 >> Yes, 2352 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:54,239 >> we did give it to them. 2353 01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:55,119 >> One person. 2354 01:59:55,119 --> 01:59:56,159 >> Yeah. 2355 01:59:56,159 --> 01:59:57,520 >> And they didn't use it. 2356 01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:58,320 >> They had one person. 2357 01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,440 >> They did. They canled it. 2358 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:02,320 >> They didn't use it. 2359 02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:05,280 >> They have one twice a year. So, 2360 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:06,880 >> one fall, one spring. 2361 02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:07,679 >> Okay. 2362 02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:10,320 >> It's just the spring right now. I feel 2363 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,040 like we got a letter or something from 2364 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:14,159 Did we get a letter? 2365 02:00:14,159 --> 02:00:15,119 >> It does seem like we got something. 2366 02:00:15,119 --> 02:00:17,199 >> We got something back from somebody. 2367 02:00:17,199 --> 02:00:19,520 Yeah, that went. Yeah. So, that was 2368 02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:21,280 success. That was Yeah. 2369 02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:22,960 >> I mean, Ray, am I am I wrong? Does it 2370 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,239 not feel like if they really wanted 2371 02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:26,560 funding to do that, they there's plenty 2372 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,239 of organizations and businesses are 2373 02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:29,119 going to donate to that? 2374 02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:30,560 >> That you take yourself. 2375 02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,239 >> It's It's just not much effort. I was 2376 02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:39,199 there in ' 84 and then again in 201 2377 02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:39,920 12. 2378 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,360 >> So you've done it. 2379 02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:45,350 >> I've been there twice. 2380 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,920 » But they've had some issues with their 2381 02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:49,360 leadership. That's 2382 02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,760 >> That is That is true. I mean they've had 2383 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:54,159 a lot of people quit 2384 02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:57,119 over. So 2385 02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:58,960 >> did you say up it? What were you 2386 02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,480 thinking? 2387 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,159 >> I was thinking if if they cancelled 2388 02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:03,760 their flight because money. 2389 02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:04,880 >> Yeah. 2390 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,920 >> That it wouldn't be a bad idea to have 2391 02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:13,040 >> basically supporting two ways going the 2392 02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:13,599 wrong way. 2393 02:01:13,599 --> 02:01:19,350 >> Well, actually 2394 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:20,480 gets him to the east coast. 2395 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,880 >> Yeah. Not good. Well, what do you think? 2396 02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:24,880 4,000 2,000? 2397 02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:25,840 >> I'd leave it at three. 2398 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:26,239 >> Three. 2399 02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:27,440 >> That's what they That's what they asked 2400 02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:28,080 for, isn't it? 2401 02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:28,880 >> Yep. 2402 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,280 >> So, I wouldn't give them any more than 2403 02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:32,000 they asked for. 2404 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,360 >> Yeah. You're doing great. 2405 02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:39,109 >> I'm sorry. 2406 02:01:39,119 --> 02:01:41,040 » Sorry. Sorry. I'm addressing the wrong 2407 02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:45,109 person. 2408 02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:48,639 » I'm just saying if if if it's agreeable, 2409 02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:51,280 we can bump it up. If it's not, $3,000 2410 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:52,560 is a fair amount of money. 2411 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:54,000 >> What would you bump it to? 2412 02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,239 >> Well, four. At least four. Yeah. 2413 02:01:56,239 --> 02:02:01,040 >> Any objections to 4,000 to Honor Flight? 2414 02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,520 >> All right. I'd like to hear back from 2415 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,199 them first. 2416 02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:06,000 >> Do it again. 2417 02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:10,400 >> That was so hard. But 2418 02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:14,159 >> the all night all night party definitely 2419 02:02:14,159 --> 02:02:15,440 in favor of 2420 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:21,589 >> favor. 2421 02:02:21,599 --> 02:02:24,400 Oh, are those numbers up there? 2422 02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,400 >> No, that's what 2423 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,159 >> I thought they were asking. 2424 02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:32,400 >> I thought they asked for 2500. 2425 02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,199 >> Oh, okay. 2426 02:02:33,199 --> 02:02:33,920 >> Huh. 2427 02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,000 >> 2500 was their ask. I just looked into 2428 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:37,920 that that cell if that's what you want 2429 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:38,320 to do. 2430 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,320 >> And I'm okay with 2500. They still 2431 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:41,520 charge kids. 2432 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:41,840 >> Yeah. 2433 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,719 >> To go to that. 2434 02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:44,960 >> Yeah. 2435 02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:46,480 >> I think if you give them more, it might 2436 02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:48,239 actually go towards lower cost for the 2437 02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:48,560 kids. 2438 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,159 >> Doesn't have doesn't hurt a little skin 2439 02:02:50,159 --> 02:02:51,760 in the game. 2440 02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:52,960 >> But then there's a lot of kids that 2441 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:54,560 don't even go. Like my son's a senior 2442 02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:55,760 this year and he said he doesn't want to 2443 02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:56,639 go. 2444 02:02:56,639 --> 02:02:57,840 >> He's going to miss out. 2445 02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:00,480 >> I think right. 2446 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,400 Better you know where he's at then 2447 02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:06,239 >> be tagging the back of city hall here 2448 02:03:06,239 --> 02:03:08,639 probably 2449 02:03:08,639 --> 02:03:13,189 >> that new generator 2450 02:03:13,199 --> 02:03:18,070 » now if it happens right down at 2451 02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:25,189 » the sheriff will be here 2452 02:03:25,199 --> 02:03:26,000 » we're on the ridge 2453 02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:30,320 >> Timber Ridge asked for 2454 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,599 How much they asked for? 2455 02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:34,880 >> 22. 2456 02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,199 I have no problem with that. 2457 02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:39,360 >> What's that for? 2458 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,360 >> She was She's explaining that it's going 2459 02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,440 to be seed money to start their 2460 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:44,719 carnival, which is their major 2461 02:03:44,719 --> 02:03:47,679 fundraiser. 2462 02:03:47,679 --> 02:03:49,360 >> Then all those funds go into the 2463 02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,000 classroom for things that the school 2464 02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,360 support the kids doesn't have funds to 2465 02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:55,920 purchase. 2466 02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:57,840 >> So, it's temporary school district. 2467 02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:01,599 >> Right. It says a donation to help put on 2468 02:04:01,599 --> 02:04:04,480 our carnival. Uh the money is used to 2469 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:07,760 purchase bounce house food uh for our 2470 02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,080 concessions. All funds raised go back 2471 02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:14,000 into uh help students uh teachers and 2472 02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,719 school. That's right. Supplies. 2473 02:04:16,719 --> 02:04:18,320 >> I thought Meadow Ridge also had a 2474 02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:20,800 request. 2475 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:21,599 >> Oh the poll. 2476 02:04:21,599 --> 02:04:23,520 >> They they have never made a request. 2477 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:27,920 >> Oh, okay. So 2200 to Timber Ridge. Any 2478 02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:29,440 objections? 2479 02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:32,480 >> All right. Morning Star Graange. They 2480 02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,320 didn't put in an ask. They have funds 2481 02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:36,880 left over from their prior ask that they 2482 02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:38,560 have asked us. Nope. 2483 02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:41,520 >> They did not request this year and money 2484 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:42,960 doesn't carry over to the next budget. 2485 02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,280 So they didn't ask us to 2486 02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:46,239 >> expires. 2487 02:04:46,239 --> 02:04:48,800 >> Yeah. So there is no request for them 2488 02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:51,199 this year. 2489 02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:54,480 >> So they didn't use what we authorized, 2490 02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:55,520 right? 2491 02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,040 >> Last year. Yeah, 2492 02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:57,920 >> but if they're going to 2493 02:04:57,920 --> 02:04:59,280 >> But they still haven't done the project, 2494 02:04:59,280 --> 02:04:59,679 right? 2495 02:04:59,679 --> 02:05:00,239 >> Correct. 2496 02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:02,080 >> As far as we know, 2497 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:02,880 >> doesn't look. 2498 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:04,960 >> So, we need to at least budget. We need 2499 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,280 to at least budget 2500. 2500 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:08,639 >> If they don't take it, they don't take 2501 02:05:08,639 --> 02:05:09,520 it. But 2502 02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:12,080 >> we 2503 02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:13,599 doesn't carry over. It disappears, 2504 02:05:13,599 --> 02:05:16,480 >> right? But how often do how long do we 2505 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,719 want to continue to carry 2506 02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:20,639 a request? When would you get offer 2507 02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:23,040 penal money? They never requested. 2508 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,280 >> We have miscellaneous. So now you've 2509 02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:26,159 >> Are they aware that 2510 02:05:26,159 --> 02:05:27,440 >> Have you ever been Have you ever been 2511 02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,400 around the the leadership over there? 2512 02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:30,800 >> No. 2513 02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:32,480 >> So 2514 02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:34,159 we reached out to them. 2515 02:05:34,159 --> 02:05:37,520 >> Uh Sheena, did we ever get a response? 2516 02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,119 >> You just said they weren't going to ask 2517 02:05:39,119 --> 02:05:41,119 us here. Great. Okay. So they may not 2518 02:05:41,119 --> 02:05:42,560 anticipate a project they could use it 2519 02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,480 on this year. Um 2520 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,480 >> well then they can come back to that 2521 02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:47,119 project. 2522 02:05:47,119 --> 02:05:49,040 >> Yeah. It was pointed out there's there's 2523 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,560 money you can have money in 2524 02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,080 miscellaneous for those requests 2525 02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:54,239 throughout the year. So you might want 2526 02:05:54,239 --> 02:05:56,400 to just handle that. 2527 02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,239 >> Maybe that's what we do. Zero zero for 2528 02:05:58,239 --> 02:05:58,400 now. 2529 02:05:58,400 --> 02:05:59,679 >> Zero it out and slide it to 2530 02:05:59,679 --> 02:06:00,320 miscellaneous 2531 02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:02,159 >> and miscellaneous. 2532 02:06:02,159 --> 02:06:05,840 >> So So question on the miscellaneous. We 2533 02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:07,760 generally make it just add up to a total 2534 02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,760 at the top that you want to see. We 2535 02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,560 pulled some things out of there. So do 2536 02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:14,960 you want to make this 2537 02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:19,040 uh 5500 would make it 25,000 even on 2538 02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,239 that? You can make it whatever 2539 02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:23,920 just 2540 02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:27,910 fine. 2541 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,840 » Doesn't mean we're going to spend. 2542 02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:30,480 >> No, it's 2543 02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,400 >> is that including the new categories? 2544 02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:33,199 >> No, it does not. 2545 02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:34,320 >> Okay. 2546 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:35,360 >> And then I have a 2547 02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,560 >> a news category for 97. 2548 02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:40,880 >> And if I could ask um question on that 2549 02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:42,880 new category, do you want to have a 2550 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:44,880 miscellaneous in there as well? And the 2551 02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,040 reason I ask is 2552 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,239 for example this year we're doing the 2553 02:06:48,239 --> 02:06:50,560 fireworks right as a partnership with 2554 02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:52,159 Albany that is not planned to continue 2555 02:06:52,159 --> 02:06:53,599 on into the next year but there's been 2556 02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:57,199 expressed some interest in reaching out 2557 02:06:57,199 --> 02:06:59,599 to those other organizations and seeing 2558 02:06:59,599 --> 02:07:01,280 if they would be willing to do that or 2559 02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:02,560 something like that. Do you want to put 2560 02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:04,639 money in the budget for some other sort 2561 02:07:04,639 --> 02:07:06,800 of partnership like that or do you want 2562 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,360 to just leave it for now and then we'll 2563 02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,040 deal with it if it becomes reality 2564 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,280 later? 2565 02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:14,800 I would rather deal with it when it if 2566 02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:15,920 it becomes reality. 2567 02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:16,960 >> Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at 2568 02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:18,480 because I'm I'm kind of at the point 2569 02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,800 where I think that we could at least 2570 02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:24,960 give the events committee first crack at 2571 02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,719 it and they 2572 02:07:26,719 --> 02:07:28,239 >> whether they want to partner to do 2573 02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:30,320 actual fireworks versus drone show or 2574 02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,520 something otherwise then if it comes up 2575 02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:35,760 then it we have SAS spending council we 2576 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,119 can deal with it there 2577 02:07:37,119 --> 02:07:38,719 >> and I don't think necessarily that I 2578 02:07:38,719 --> 02:07:40,159 would want to do it every year anyway, 2579 02:07:40,159 --> 02:07:42,079 >> right? I mean, we do the drone show. 2580 02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:44,560 That's for our community. And the only 2581 02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:45,840 reason we're doing the fireworks this 2582 02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:51,430 year is because it's 250 years. 2583 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:55,360 » Sir, the 200 or the 9700. 2584 02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,800 >> You're missing us. 2585 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,079 >> Ah, thanks. Good. 2586 02:08:00,079 --> 02:08:00,800 >> Oh, she's 2587 02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:06,390 >> What happens when you insert 2588 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,480 » Thank you. 2589 02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,480 And once you approve what's on the 2590 02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:13,040 screen here or the change we've made, we 2591 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:14,639 will clean this up and make sure 2592 02:08:14,639 --> 02:08:16,639 everything's adding correctly and all 2593 02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:18,239 that because when we make changes like 2594 02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:23,669 this, there's some checking got to do. 2595 02:08:23,679 --> 02:08:24,560 » Yeah, 2596 02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:27,360 >> that's the last of the 2597 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:33,109 things in the budget in the 2598 02:08:33,119 --> 02:08:43,910 » Dick will be chair next year. 2599 02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:46,079 Not to be suggestive, but there's a 2600 02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:47,920 recommended motion for you. 2601 02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:50,960 >> Okay, this is I will do this. I motion 2602 02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,119 to approve and recommend to the city 2603 02:08:53,119 --> 02:08:54,880 council 2604 02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:59,119 the adoption of the proposed fiscal year 2605 02:08:59,119 --> 02:09:00,639 202627 2606 02:09:00,639 --> 02:09:02,719 budget and capital improvement program 2607 02:09:02,719 --> 02:09:05,280 as modified. 2608 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:06,320 I'll second. 2609 02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:08,800 >> There's a motion, a second. Any 2610 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:11,199 discussion? 2611 02:09:11,199 --> 02:09:13,520 >> Hearing none. All in favor say I. 2612 02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:14,159 >> I. 2613 02:09:14,159 --> 02:09:16,560 >> Oppose. Same sign. 2614 02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,119 >> All right. 2615 02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:20,639 >> Has passed the budget. 2616 02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:24,719 >> We we did skip something. Um 2617 02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:25,520 >> period. 2618 02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,440 >> There was another public comment period. 2619 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:29,599 Obviously there is no public but I just 2620 02:09:29,599 --> 02:09:31,679 wanted to acknowledge that 2621 02:09:31,679 --> 02:09:32,880 >> there is still nobody online 2622 02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,520 >> that there 2623 02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:36,880 was an opportunity for public 2624 02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:37,280 confidence. 2625 02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,280 >> Oh sorry got out. 2626 02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:42,719 >> Well we jumped 2627 02:09:42,719 --> 02:09:44,560 >> there was no one in the audience and I'm 2628 02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,199 looking at this one. Okay. 2629 02:09:47,199 --> 02:09:49,119 >> I should have checked with Mr. Street to 2630 02:09:49,119 --> 02:09:50,880 see if anyone was online. No one joined 2631 02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:51,760 us. Correct. 2632 02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,950 >> All right. 2633 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,480 Got a motion. We got a vote. It passed. 2634 02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:00,719 Any questions, comments from the 2635 02:10:00,719 --> 02:10:02,800 committee to staff or the committee 2636 02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,119 themselves? 2637 02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:06,560 I'd like to thank you all for your 2638 02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:11,000 service and we're adjourned.